[16:27] <NemesisNL> returns me this
[16:27] <NemesisNL> crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14, 3 2009-04-26 17:08 /dev/dsp
[16:27] <NemesisNL> i got a build in intel sound and soundblaster
[16:28] <xerox1> has anybody the same problem: kde4 moves all plasmoids to the left upper edge
[16:30] <Yud_Zroc> any tips on how do fix this? http://pastebin.com/d4c243d16
[16:32] <kesek> that is self explanational Yud_Zroc
[16:32] <kesek> it gave the answer in the error message
[16:32] <Yud_Zroc> ....
[16:32] <kesek> For enabling real-time/high-priority scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit privileges, or become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO resource limits for this user.
[16:33] <Yud_Zroc> so...i need to add prvlidges
[16:33] <kesek> that's right
[16:33] <kesek> sudo and edit the shadow thing
[16:33] <kesek> or mtab...
[16:33] <kesek> or whatever it is, cba to rember now
[16:33] <jhutchins_kc> Ok, I gotta figure out "slow keys".  I think that's the mechanism that just disabled my keyboard because I held the shift key down too long.
[16:34] <kesek> sticky ;)
[16:34] <aggy> glooorp
[16:35] <robin0800_> !sticky
[16:36] <kesek> !fork
[16:37] <kesek> !forking
[16:37] <kesek> right
[16:37] <mmo|> hello, I am getting a black screen after installing nvidia 180 on kubuntu 9.04. Anyone know what might be wrong?
[16:37] <wirechief> NemesisNL: try researching here  http://alsa.opensrc.org/
[16:37] <mmo|> more here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130377
[16:38] <ramon> guys, pls help me...I'm trying to update my system but i cannot access ubuntu sever, from apt-get update...]
[16:39] <ramon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/158627/
[16:39] <bulletgani> is anybody using kdetwitter ?
[16:39] <ramon> does anybody pls see the problem on pastbin?
[16:39] <bulletgani> kdetwitter is corrupting all the other plasma widgets
[16:40] <bulletgani> causing plasma to crash after about 30 to 45 mins of use
[16:40] <wags> anyone know how to setup a samba share??
[16:40] <wags> the gui does not seem to work
[16:40] <B-Minus> how can i repeat a perl script every x seconds from command line ?
[16:40] <bulletgani> there is definitely a memory leak as Xorg is eventually taking up 1.8 GB of memory
[16:40] <B-Minus> the command repeat doesnt excist
[16:40] <linux-hdtv> found the solution to my fstab mount problems: hal wants fstab listed partitions to be mounted in /mnt
[16:41] <robin0800_> ramon: no internet connection
[16:41] <ramon> no internet connection from my comp?
[16:41] <robin0800_> ramon: yes
[16:41] <ramon> and how do i fix it?? and how am i using konversation?
[16:43] <robin0800_> ramon: second guess server down
[16:43] <linux-hdtv> bulletgani, did you file a bug report ?
[16:43] <ramon> mm so i have to wait?
[16:44] <robin0800_> ramon: or change to another one in the software sources setting
[16:45] <bulletgani> it is already filed
[16:45] <marcus____> Lo everyone.
[16:45] <bulletgani> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeplasma-addons/+bug/364129
[16:45] <marcus____> Just came to ask - are .deb packages available for Amarok 2.1 beta? Or is there a repository available?#
[16:46] <bulletgani> no action though.
[16:46] <robin0800_> bulletgani: its sunday
[16:47] <bulletgani> :-)
[16:47] <bulletgani> not sure if it is a wide spread problem or some config / HW dependent problem
[16:48] <marcus____> If I want to get Amarok 2.1 beta on my computer, will I have to compile from source?
[16:48] <bulletgani> trying to see if other prople are also having issues .......... more info --> easier for devs to fix issue
[16:49] <robin0800_> marcus____: if ther is a deb available use that if not yes
[16:49] <marcus____> robin0800_: Do you know if a .deb is available?
[16:49] <robin0800_> marcus____: no
[16:49] <ubuser> I don't like amarok 2
[16:50] <robin0800_> ubuser: nor me
[16:50] <marcus____> robin0800_: If it's not easy to find a .deb on kubuntu.org or amarok.kde.org, then should I presume there isn't one?
[16:50] <marcus____> Or a repository*
[16:51]  * robin0800_ rhythmbox
[16:51] <robin0800_> marcus____: google search
[16:52] <ubuser> marcus____: I would pose the question on ubuntuforums.org
[16:52] <marcus____> ubuser: OK, thanks.
[16:53] <marcus____> Oh dear - I've been using Gentoo too long.
[16:53] <robin0800_> marcus____: I would look for the amarok progect pages
[16:53] <marcus____> Never mind - it's available in backports, apparently.
[16:54] <marcus____> Just activated a few disabled repositories from Intrepid, and it's there.
[16:54] <ubuser> Why is this kde4.2.2 the absolute winner on the desktop vs gnome yet it appears to be the redheaded stepchild of canonical?
[16:55] <robin0800_> ubuser: I think its sleeker than gnome though more things are broken
[16:55] <doleyb> ubuser: Well they had to prefer one or the other, and they choose gnome.  Why?  Tough to say! I'll guess either OO-antipathy or anachronistic license stringency.
[16:55] <yoritomo> not yet any version of cinelerra for jaunty?
[16:55] <chris_w> upgrade to jaunty killed all my sound. Im going mad.
[16:56] <doleyb> chris_w: Did you check removing pulseaudio package
[16:56] <robin0800_> chris_w: Pulse audio
[16:56] <ubuser> That was fine two or three years ago but today the preferred choice should be kde 4.2.2
[16:57] <robin0800_> ubuser: Yes but alot is broken
[16:57] <chris_w> doleyb, robin0800_: no, I'll try that now
[16:57] <SSJ_GZ> ubuser: Many, many people would dispute that KDE4.2.2 is the "absolute winner on the desktop".
[16:57] <doleyb> ubuser: I don't think it was true 3 years ago either... KDE was working great before gnome had even been started.  Regardless, they're stuck and won't think of switching.
[16:57] <marcus____> robin0800_: I wouldn't say, "A lot", just, "more then Gnome".#
[16:57] <ubuser> There isn't that much broken
[16:57] <marcus____> robin0800_: Gnome seems almost unbreakable.
[16:58] <marcus____> robin0800_: KDE isn't, "unbreakable", but it doesn't, "just break" any more, either.
[16:58] <robin0800_> ubuser: mobile broadband,bluetooth and ati graophics
[16:58] <marcus____> At least, very seldomly at best.
[16:58] <ubuser> Gnome has lots of breakage. I used it for 2+ years prior to kde 4.2 being released. It has/had lots of problems
[16:59] <marcus____> ubuser: It does? I stand corrected.
[16:59] <chris_w> doleyb, robin0800_: pulseaudio is not currently installed - ? shouldnt it have installed in the update?
[16:59] <marcus____> ubuser: I just dislike Gnome because it feels much harder to change anything.
[16:59] <doleyb> chris_w: No it shouldn't, but a lot of times pulseaudio did install, which broke things.
[17:00] <robin0800_> ubuser: mp3 player usb is the only thng
[17:00] <doleyb> marcus____: I agree that it's too hard to change, and that restriction amplifies some of Gnome's UI design flaws.
[17:00] <ubuser> I dealt with a large number of probe with constantly. Each update screwed with more thing. Many have been worked out but there are many left
[17:00] <Eveready> blame GTK
[17:00] <marcus____> Anyway, got what I came to get now - now my brother can be happy. He likes Amarok 2 but found too much that was buggy in 2.0.2.
[17:00] <Eveready> LOL
[17:00] <marcus____> XD
[17:01] <robin0800_> ubuser: I use both depending what I need
[17:01] <marcus____> Never did like GTK. If Qt is like glass, then GTK is like cardboard.
[17:01] <Eveready> hehehe
[17:01] <chris_w> doleyb:  well it isnt currently installed and the sound is broken nonetheless. Shall I try installing pulse? might that fix it?
[17:01] <ubuser> Sorry I'm typing this on my iPhone while at the laundromat.
[17:01] <B-Minus> hello
[17:01] <doleyb> chris_w: You can give it a shot... what was your sound card?
[17:01] <B-Minus> i want to listen to streaming radio but it needs the microsoft mediaplayer
[17:01] <robin0800_> ubuser: You are doing well
[17:01] <B-Minus> can i download something in firefox ?
[17:01] <Eveready> I like the hardy heron, support till April 2011
[17:02] <doleyb> B-Minus: what stream site?
[17:02] <B-Minus> eh
[17:02] <B-Minus> www.sporza.be
[17:02] <doleyb> B-Minus: Maybe you should check if amarok does it.
[17:02] <Eveready> xcept software might not get much newer
[17:02] <BluesKaj> !pulsaudio | chris_w
[17:02] <PhilippeP> Hi is there a way to tell KpackageKit to put a package on a 'do not upgrade' list or something ?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> !pulseaudio | chris_w
[17:02] <chris_w> doleyb: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[17:02] <B-Minus> doleyb: i dont hear anything when i try streaming with amarok
[17:02] <doleyb> PhilippeP: The name for that status is package "on hold"
[17:02] <B-Minus> very strange
[17:02] <Eveready> enlightened
[17:03] <marcus____> Anyway. Going now. See you guys later.
[17:03] <doleyb> B-Minus: can you play local mp3s in amarok?
[17:03] <robin0800_> PhilippeP: Aptitude can do that
[17:03] <chris_w> doleyb: other people have had the same problem, but none of their fixes work, and there isnt much documentation on the issue yet as far as I have found
[17:03] <PhilippeP> doleyb: how do I put something 'on hold' ?
[17:03] <B-Minus> doleyb: dunno im gonna download a mp3
[17:03] <Eveready> !audacious
[17:03] <Eveready> !vlc
[17:04] <draik_> Have any fixes/patches been made for the high CPU usage from /usr/bin/plasma ?
[17:04] <BluesKaj> chris_w, pulseaudio and alsa are defaults in jaunty
[17:04] <Eveready> draik, just kill it
[17:04] <Eveready> lol
[17:04] <nascentmind> hi. Why does switching in the task bar slow in kubuntu jaunty release?
[17:04] <rmrfslash> draik_: I haven't gottan a single update since firefox 3.0.9 which was last Tues I think.
[17:05] <chris_w> BluesKaj: so its odd that pulseaudio wasnt installed in the update then?
[17:05] <robin0800_> rmrfslash: Think they are on strike
[17:05] <PhilippeP> robin0800_: I don't see that option in Aptitude...
[17:05] <BluesKaj> chris_w, unless you were using a different soundserver in 8.10
[17:06] <rmrfslash> robin0800_: apparently! Or they could be hard @ work
[17:06] <rmrfslash> but that's no fun.
[17:06] <doleyb> chris_: kde typically shouldn't use pulseaudio. Should use arts alsa
[17:06] <robin0800_> PhilippeP: Read the manual page man aptitude
[17:06] <draik_> rmrfslash: I had a similar issue with kde4, but that slowly resolved itself.
[17:07] <BluesKaj> doleyb, check your media setup in sys settings
[17:07] <chris_w> BluesKaj: ok, so given the fact that I had no custom sound configuration in hardy (just the defaults) is it strange that pulse audio is now not installed after the update to jaunty?
[17:07] <PhilippeP> robin0800_: ok man is more useful than help :)
[17:08] <nascentmind> anybody? is that a bug in kubuntu?
[17:08] <robin0800_> PhilippeP: More extensive I would say
[17:09] <BluesKaj> hardy used OSS i believe , so if you didn't upgrade to 8.10 then 9.04 it follows that pulseaudio wasn't triggered to install , i think :)
[17:09] <chris_w> OK, Well having installed pulse audio im now going to reboot and see if its made a difference. I dont have high hopes. Thanks for all your help people
[17:09] <doleyb> BluesKaj: You mean Multimedia?  I don't see anything relevant.
[17:10] <BluesKaj> doleyb , no pulseaudio ?
[17:11] <doleyb> BluesKaj: Maybe you've confused me for someone else.
[17:12] <ign0ramus> hey all.
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> yo
[17:13] <BluesKaj> hey ActionParsnip
[17:13] <robin0800_> ActionParsnip: YoYo
[17:13]  * ActionParsnip waves
[17:13] <ign0ramus> Need help... In Jaunty, I installed wicd, which uninstalls network-manager and the plasmoid for it.  Well, wicd doesn't want to work, so now I have no networking, and cannot figure out a way to reinstall the original packages... :(
[17:14] <ign0ramus> I have the Jaunty DVD I used to install, but for some reason, can't get KPackageKit to pull files from it.
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: you can use /etc/network/interfaces to setup the connection
[17:14] <robin0800_> ign0ramus: You need Network-manager
[17:15] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: how's that?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[17:15] <BluesKaj> no doleyb, I assumed you had told chris_w to install pulseaudio , but I thought it would have been installed by default in 8.10 from which which i assumed he had upgraded not hardy which uses OSS.
[17:15] <ign0ramus> robin0800_: I know - can't install it without networking.
[17:15] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: checking your link.  Thanks.
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: setup the connection manually and you can then reinstall it
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> i always do it that way
[17:15] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: sounds easy, but we shall see :)
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: if its wireless with wpa its a bit trickier but totally achievable
[17:16] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: so if i turn off encryption temporarily, it should be easier, yes?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: i guess yeah
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: i use wep which is easily implemented in that file
[17:20] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, there's whole load of problems with knetworkmanger being relegated to the boonies in 9.04 ..it has to be called up with the run mnd and then installed as /usr/bin/networkmanager in autostart in order to avoid the problems with Network Manager , which is totally buggy from the getgo.
[17:20] <BluesKaj> err run cmnd
[17:21] <ign0ramus_> ActionParsnip: sorry, got disconnected... do you have an example of the interfaces file for wireless?
[17:22] <robin0800_> ign0ramus_: No direct connection?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus_ cat /etc/resolv.conf should give your status and important info
[17:23] <ign0ramus_> yeah, but then I lose connection on this desktop :(
[17:23] <ign0ramus_> I can't install the packages from the install DVD?
[17:24] <robin0800_> ign0ramus_: on my laptop a reboot finds it automaticaly
[17:24] <ign0ramus_> BluesKaj: only gives DNS servers
[17:25] <ign0ramus_> robin0800_: what do you mean? do you let the install disc in and reboot?
[17:26] <robin0800_> ign0ramus_: Yes and chose repair
[17:26] <ign0ramus_> robin0800_: i'll try that
[17:26] <Lynoure> I don't seem to be able to activate new keyboard layouts after upgrading to jaunty. Is this a known problem?
[17:27] <ign0ramus_> completely unrelated, but does anyone else have to shutdown using CLI? The GUI buttons don't seem to work - the system just hangs
[17:27] <robin0800_> Lynoure: no
[17:29] <PhilippeP> robin0800_: well update-notifier-kde doesn't about chnges made with aptitude ...
[17:29] <PhilippeP> care
[17:32] <beatzz> how do i see what verision of wine I am running?
[17:33] <beatzz> is there a command that prints Wine's version # to the screen?
[17:33] <Lynoure> robin0800_: you tried, and can change them?
[17:33] <BluesKaj> look in adept , beatzz
[17:34] <Lynoure> For me it's like the green "add" arrow does nothing.
[17:34] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus_ , how about : sudo ifup wlan0  ?
[17:36] <beatzz> BluesKaj: thanks
[17:38] <Lynoure> robin0800_: I'm asking because if it happens just to me, I'll try some things before reporting a bug, but if it happens to others, too, I could report on.
[17:40] <wirechief> piksi  Kano is a linux master
[17:41] <piksi> wirechief: i consulted him and he confirmed the compatibility of my adapter, so building manually the latest ati driver fixed the issue :-)
[17:41] <wirechief> piksi i saw.. his scripts are awesome
[17:41] <p-f_> Is there a magic "make horizontal scrolling work properly on my touchpad" setting somewhere?
[17:41] <robin0800_> Lynoure: I'll check and get back to you
[17:42] <Lynoure> robin0800_: Thanks
[17:42] <doleyb> p-f_: have you tried gsynaptics?
[17:42] <p-f_> doleyb: it seems to be installed
[17:42] <doleyb> p-f_: But did you run it?
[17:42] <wirechief> piksi what is amazing is they are designed to fix issues with proprietary drivers in kubuntu and make them work, he has a photographic mind for ATI stuff
[17:43] <p-f_> doleyb: I did now, and horizontal scrolling is enabled. Still doesn't work, though.
[17:43] <ign0ramus> robin0800_: the live CD with DHCP enabled me to connect and get the packages i needed.  thanks!
[17:43] <doleyb> p-f_: Did you get jaunty?
[17:43] <p-f_> doleyb: yup
[17:44] <p-f_> doleyb: it broke a few things, but horizontal scrolling never worked at all
[17:44] <piksi> wirechief: yeah, it's rare to see a custom script work that well :->
[17:45] <somnob> can some one tell me why the wecam icon on kopete is gone  kopete 0.70.2
[17:45] <ign0ramus> OK, now i have "network-manager" and "plasma-widget-network-manager" currently installed, but I cannot run either... any ideas?
[17:45] <p-f_> doleyb: I also ran gsynaptics-init just in case
[17:45] <somnob> i run kopete with   LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so kopete
[17:45] <somnob> but the webcam icon in the chat windwo is gone
[17:46] <doleyb> p-f_: is your touch pad a synaptic?
[17:46] <p-f_> doleyb: good question - it's whatever comes with dell inspirons
[17:47] <neo644> Sometimes the network manager will not connect to my wireless network. It just says connecting to my wireless network, then it doesn't do anything, it just sits there. Anyone know what is wrong?
[17:47] <robin0800> neo644: Yes its not very good
[17:47] <wirechief> piksi if you take a peek at that script with a editor youll wonder how the heck it does what it does, ive been using his distro with ubuntu kernels now for almost 2 yrs
[17:48] <neo644> It is the only problem i have encountered wth KDE so far
[17:48] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus_ knetworkmanager has to be installed as /usr/bin/networkmanager in autostart in order to avoid the problems with Network Manager , which is totally buggy from the getgo.
[17:48] <robin0800> neo644: Bluetooth?
[17:49] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj: I think my problem was that the widget has to be manually added to the task bar
[17:49] <neo644> I have bluetooth with my wireless radio
[17:49] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, don't use it
[17:49] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj: putting my encryption back on the router, and testing...
[17:49] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj: why not?
[17:49] <neo644> but im not using it
[17:49] <White_Pelican> good morning all. Is there any idea when the Jaunty kde 3.5.10 remix will become available?
[17:49] <BluesKaj> it's too buggy , yer better off with knetworkmanager
[17:49] <robin0800> neo644: Doesn't work with my phone
[17:50] <doleyb> BluesKaj: what does "too buggy" mean?
[17:50] <neo644> robin0800, that isnt the problem though, im using a regular connection to my wireless router
[17:51] <BluesKaj> it'll take 6-7 tries to encrypt/wpa and then it might fail ever 2nd time ...i found it a total PITA on our laptop
[17:51] <robin0800> BluesKaj: Yes gnome works much better
[17:52] <emma> Why is *no one* seeding the kubuntu 9.04 64 bit alt cd ??
[17:53] <robin0800> emma: No ones got it?
[17:53] <ignoramus> BluesKaj: ok, connected again on the lappy.  why should i not use the network-manager widget?
[17:53] <emma> I would seed it if I could get it?!
[17:53] <BluesKaj> knetworkmanager and Network Manager are 2 differnt apps ..Network Manager is the buggy one
[17:53] <p-f_> in other news, upgrading to jaunty broke vim syntax highlighting
[17:54] <emma> p-f_: that's a flaw in vim syntax highlighting.
[17:54] <ignoramus> BluesKaj: so i should install "knetworkmanager" instead?
[17:54] <neo644> emma: usually people download the ubuntu 32 bit regular cd the most
[17:54] <p-f_> emma: really, how so?
[17:54] <emma> neo644: we need to have people supporting kubuntu
[17:54] <BluesKaj> well ignoramus, if yer comnnected leave it for now , you may have better luck than I did
[17:54] <emma> p-f_: wasn't robust enough to withstand a dist upgrade.
[17:54] <p-f_> emma: I would expect the distro to take care of that
[17:54] <neo644> and the kubuntu 64bit alt is probably less needed
[17:55] <robin0800> ignoramus: I wouldn't Just the gnome one
[17:55] <emma> neo644: how am I going to get it then?
[17:55] <ignoramus> BluesKaj: fair enough, I've had enough screwing with Jaunty for a while... the only thing bugging me is that to shutdown from Kmenu doesn't work (hangs), but from CLI it works fine... wtf?
[17:55] <neo644> emma: I would download it the regular way
[17:55] <robin0800> emma: Download the image
[17:55] <neo644> Since the servers are much better today
[17:55] <p-f_> emma: how does one go about fixing it manually then?
[17:55] <p-f_> google isn't helping much
[17:56] <emma> neo644: is there a way for me to seed it once I get it?
[17:56] <neo644> emma: I dont think so
[17:56] <robin0800> p-f_: Kate can do a vim style
[17:56] <neo644> Are you just downloading it to seed it?
[17:57] <BluesKaj> robin0800, knetworkmanager is perfectly fine ..it works well as a kde app , gnome has advantages over it. Jaunty devs have decided, for some eyecandy reason, to add a widget called Network Manager which is still buggy
[17:57] <p-f_> robin0800: kate can't run without X
[17:57] <emma> I want to have it but I don't want there to be zero people seeding kubuntu 9.04 64 bit alt cd.
[17:57] <doleyb> BluesKaj: lol knetworkmanager eats cpu...
[17:57] <BluesKaj> err  gnome has no advantages over it
[17:58] <emma> How were people supposed to get it on the torrent if no one is seeding it?
[17:58] <robin0800> BluesKaj: Its the old one your talking about does it do mobile broadband?
[17:58] <ignoramus> emma: you can get on the torrent, provided the tracker is still working, but you won't be able to download until you connect to a seeder
[17:59] <neo644> BluesKaj, will knetworkmanager work better than the plasma widget?
[17:59] <emma> ignoramus: yes i have the torrent but it is queued with zero seeders and zero peers.
[17:59] <BluesKaj> neo644 , dunno if it'll work better but it's easier to setup
[17:59] <emma> ignoramus: If I get kubuntu 9.04 64 bit alt cd by other means can I start seeding it?
[18:00] <ignoramus> emma: yes. you can create a .torrent file and announce it, and seed to others
[18:00] <neo644> BluesKaj, if it connects to my wifi network every time it is instantaneously better
[18:01] <doleyb> How can I stop gtk programs (like gimp, gedit, or gnometris) from playing noises when I click buttons?
[18:01] <emma> ignoramus: will it work for people who go to the official ubuntu torrent location?
[18:01] <k4ever> i hope someone here can help me.  i'm not liking jaunty too much right now.  my wireless card keeps resetting (bcm4318 using wpa encryption) itself, i can't install ati fglrx drivers because i have a legacy ati card (x600), and the open source ati drivers keep locking up on 3d games.  to top it off the xorg.conf file is not standard thanks to debxconf.
[18:01] <ignoramus> emma: there are at least 11 seeders on the 64-bit alt CD
[18:01] <emma> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[18:02] <neo644> BluesKaj, how do i stark knetworkmanager
[18:02] <BluesKaj> neo644 , the widget app was not keeping the settings for pw and wpa-pk , it would fail 6-7 times til I finally put knetworkmanager into the mix
[18:02] <ignoramus> emma: use this one: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/simple/jaunty/alternate/kubuntu-9.04-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent
[18:02] <robin0800_> k4ever: Look at the xorg log file  for what is going on
[18:02] <emma> weird. why don't they merge those trackers or something.
[18:02] <p-f_> so, anyone have ideas regarding how I could fix vim's syntax highlighting, which broke after updating to jaunty?
[18:03] <BluesKaj> neo644, alt+F2 , type networkmanager
[18:03] <ignoramus> emma: currently downloading at 150kB/s, just to test out.
[18:03] <neo644> BluesKaj, im just gonna wing it, if i come back, that means it worked
[18:03] <p-f_> other than changing editor, that is
[18:03] <k4ever> robin0800: ok, standby
[18:03] <k4ever> BluesKaj:  i'm having the same problem
[18:04] <BluesKaj> neo err  alt+F2 , type knetworkmanager
[18:04] <k4ever> my wireless card keeps dumping the encryption settings.  does it about 3 times a minute
[18:04] <p-f_> oh and firefox tabs still render all wrong in jaunty
[18:05] <emma> ignoramus: thanks I had deluge 'force recheck' after merging the trackers and it found seeders now.
[18:05] <ignoramus> emma: :)
[18:05] <Jampiter> Hi
[18:05] <doleyb> p-f_: my firefox tabs got a lot better.  But now it has stupid button-noises.
[18:05] <emma> ignoramus: what's the general feeling about the new Kubuntu?
[18:05] <p-f_> doleyb: nice
[18:06] <p-f_> doleyb: no noise here, but that might have to do with my sound being broken
[18:06] <Jampiter> I have a laptop with a headphone socket, however, when I put in headphones (or external speakers) the sound cuts out entirely and there is no sound through the headphones. Removing the headphones restores sound. How can I fix this?
[18:06] <emma> ignoramus: I have mostly used regular Ubuntu, but about 5 months ago I did have a 2 month stint as a Kubuntu user. I saw a lot of potential but went back to Ubuntu. I wondered if maybe KDE is more mature so it's more like KDE3.5 now?
[18:06] <ignoramus> emma: I actually like it... still a little buggy, but nothing that is a deal-breaker.  It looks much nicer, if that means anything to you.
[18:06] <doleyb> emma: i like it better than the previous one, if only because of wider underlying hardware support.
[18:06] <BluesKaj> k4ever, which app are you using for the settings ?
[18:07] <mackk431> i would like to proclaim that i deleted windows xp yesterday cause kubuntu 9.04 does everything better i need at this client
[18:07] <ignoramus> emma: kde 4.2.2 is nowhere near stability of 3.5.x, but it has come a long way, and I personally believe that KDE is the future of mainstream Linux DE's
[18:07] <ignoramus> mackk431: congrats!
[18:07] <BluesKaj> gotta go, BBL
[18:07] <White_Pelican> kde 4 has a while to go IMHO
[18:07] <ignoramus> later BluesKaj.  thanks
[18:07] <emma> That's cool. I will definitely try it out then.
[18:07] <doleyb> emma: However I'm saddened by the occasional (and hilarious) redraw corruption from plasmoids... which makes me hate plasmoids a little more.
[18:08] <ignoramus> doleyb: they are a little wonky sometimes.
[18:08] <mackk431> may windows xp rest in peace
[18:08] <emma> doleyb: what was the purpose of going to plasma, what is the upside?
[18:08] <k4ever> robin0800: doesn't the xorg.0,log file reset itself after each reboot?  my system is locking up so bad that i have to hard reset
[18:08] <doleyb> ignoramus: Yeah I haven't been able to catch a good screenshot yet.  Its not quite repeatable enough.
[18:09] <mackk431> it will rest in pieces
[18:09] <mackk431> haha
[18:09] <reves> Some help please
[18:09] <ignoramus> doleyb: ha, i was actually trying to get a screenshot just, now, but there doesn't seem to be a screenshot app anymore...
[18:09] <doleyb> emma: Oh there are some flexibility advantages, not yet fully realized in my view.  (The fact that plasma's design goals are barely documented is another point against it)
[18:09] <rgarcia> does anybody know the best video downloader program?
[18:09] <ignoramus> rgarcia: wget
[18:09] <k4ever> robin0800: doesn't the xorg.0,log file reset itself after each reboot?  my system is locking up so bad that i have to hard reset
[18:09] <doleyb> ignoramus: ksnapshot should still be there... maybe it's no longer attached to printscreen button.
[18:09] <mackk431> azureus is a good torrent downloader
[18:09] <reves> every time I try to use KPackageKit I keep getting a bug
[18:10] <k4ever> why is the xorg.conf file not standard?  it would be easier to figure out what was wrong if it was
[18:10] <bulletgani> doleyb: pls comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeplasma-addons/+bug/364129
[18:10] <rgarcia> wget??
[18:10] <emma> doleyb: i heard that with plasma you can do stuff like move stuff around to any part of the screen like on the desktop or in a panel or something.
[18:10] <ignoramus> doleyb: doesn't show up when pressing prtscrn...
[18:10] <emma> didn't really understand what they were saying though.
[18:10] <rgarcia> sorry but i'm new here....could you explain me what is wget?
[18:10] <doleyb> ignoramus: Yeah, well first check with alt-f2 ksnapshot.
[18:10] <doleyb> ignoramus: I guess they broke the hotkey, you can re-add your own printscr hotkey (like I did)
[18:11] <p-f_> robin0800: [besides, regarding the kate comment, I'm not the greatest fan of applications that crash on exit (before saving the configuration file) and output debug info to the console]
[18:11] <rgarcia> i mean programs like Limewire,amule
[18:11] <ignoramus> doleyb: yup, it's there.  how did you add the hotkey combo?
[18:11] <White_Pelican> rgarcia, ktorrent
[18:11] <p-f_> but that's just a personal preference
[18:11] <doleyb> rgarcia: wget is a command-line program to download from the web servers.  The people who told you "wget" are sorta joking.
[18:11] <rgarcia> mmm thanxx...
[18:11] <neo644> Ok it sort of works
[18:12] <neo644> Whenever i set my dns server to opendns it will not connect
[18:12] <neo644> Otherwise it works fine
[18:12] <doleyb> ignoramus: system settings, input actions, right-click New Global Shortcut, Command/URL.  Put ksnapshot as the command, and printscr as the button.  It will conflict with an existing PrintScr binding, which you must override.
[18:13] <ignoramus> doleyb: cool.  trying now.
[18:15] <ignoramus> doleyb: got it.  nicely done.
[18:19] <jacalope> how do you map a global shortcut to a bash script?
[18:20] <bryan> hello
[18:21] <bryan> when ever i start konqueror the browser, linux crashes. where do i report that as a bug?
[18:21]  * MuSdAv salve a tutti ^^
[18:21] <neo644> Where can i find a good dock for kubuntu?
[18:23] <rush> oyaebu kubuntu irc
[18:24] <doleyb> jacalope: [13:13] <doleyb> ignoramus: system settings, input actions, right-click New Global Shortcut, Command/URL.  Put your bash script as the command, and choose a button.
[18:25] <jacalope> awesome.... too simple, now i feel dumb for asking :)
[18:25] <roysunshine> hi there
[18:25] <roysunshine> anyone can help me?
[18:25] <bryan> where do i report bugs with konquror and linux?
[18:25] <White_Pelican> what's your problem, roysunshine ?
[18:26] <doleyb> !bugs|bryan
[18:26] <rmrfslash> neo644: I'm a former Mac fanboy, out of all of the docks out there, I liked cairodock
[18:26] <bryan> doleyb: how do i change the default browser?
[18:27] <rmrfslash> doleyb: Kickoff > System Settings > Default Applications
[18:27] <rmrfslash> woops, that was for bryan.
[18:27] <roysunshine> i have a problem with video card.i put up the previous driver, now it works fine, but it recognizes me 2 videos, i cannot deselect the wrong one, so the kde menu always doesn't fill the screen and also compiz founds this problem
[18:27] <rmrfslash> bryan: Kickoff > System Settings > Default Applications... though, I've found this doesn't work too well.
[18:28] <bryan> rmrfslash: oh, great.
[18:28] <roysunshine> what would you do, pelican^?
[18:28] <bryan> rmrfslash: when i use the standard konqueror browser it crashes linux, and i just upgraded
[18:28] <White_Pelican> not sure, roysunshine
[18:29] <roysunshine> i try to explain better?
[18:29] <White_Pelican> no it's OK
[18:30] <rmrfslash> bryan: I don't use konqueror, and I don't think a majority of people do. Though I could be wrong. I'm not surprised it is buggy, not enough ppl are using it and reporting bugs
[18:30] <White_Pelican> although, perhaps you can clarify what you mean by recognizing 2 videos
[18:30] <roysunshine> i mean
[18:30] <roysunshine> with krandrtray
[18:30] <roysunshine> and
[18:30] <rmrfslash> who here uses konqueror? I just want to see.
[18:31] <kesek> I use it from time to time
[18:31] <SSJ_GZ> moi
[18:31] <rmrfslash> Then again, it is Sunday
[18:31] <roysunshine> system prefs in video section, it finds me lvds (right one) and hdmi-1, which is set to an higher definition, but's always my monitor...and i cannot disable it because when i do it works, but then next boot it's the same
[18:31] <rmrfslash> not a lot of ppl on
[18:33] <ignoramus> anybody having issues with kde apps, where inputting text into boxes goes screwy?  Like this --> http://i41.tinypic.com/1eqrr7.jpg
[18:33] <valdur55> hey!
[18:34] <valdur55> anyone can tell me ho can repair Grub ?
[18:34] <roysunshine> any idea white?
[18:34] <BluesKaj> roysunshine, find your right driver in adept by typing in the make and model # of your graphics card.  The card will be listed under the proper driver , uninstll the wrong driver first if need be, then install the correct one.
[18:34] <k4ever> as much as i like the speed of jaunty after using it for one day i'm going back to mintOS.  jaunty has some serious problems that i can't seem to find answers for.   wireless does not work.  ati drivers are screwed up again, which seems to be a them with new ubuntu releases.  i'm getting lockups for no reason.  this reminds me of windows 98, which is not good.   was this released too soon? linux is more stable than this
[18:35] <roysunshine> ok blue i'll try now
[18:35] <bryan> rmrfslash: it was my default browser, so thats why i asked how to change it
[18:36] <rmrfslash> bryan: oh.... yeah... switch that sh*t
[18:36] <rmrfslash> k4ever: see my pm
[18:36] <ignoramus> !grub | valdur55
[18:36] <yogayou``> How do I find qt-creator 1.1 for Kubuntu?
[18:36] <valdur55> thx i will try
[18:37] <valdur55> Ok.. How can run "tbeta"
[18:37] <roysunshine> blueskaj i looked for intel mobile 4 series (rev 07) in adept, it doesn't find me anything useful i think
[18:39] <razerreality> hi
[18:39] <roysunshine> blue?
[18:39] <BluesKaj> roysunshine, in the terminal :  lspci | grep VGA
[18:39] <bryan> rmrfslash: is what you recommended the best way?
[18:39] <agoole> my usb key is seen if I do dmesg, but never shows up or gets mounted, any ideas?
[18:39] <roysunshine> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[18:39] <BluesKaj> roysunshine , then pastebin your result so we can all have a look
[18:40] <BluesKaj> oops
[18:41] <rmrfslash> bryan: best way to what? switch your def browser?
[18:41] <rmrfslash> bryan: if so then, yeah... it's the best way
[18:41] <rosco_y> how do I create a link to a directory?
[18:41] <rosco_y> ln ?
[18:42] <BluesKaj> roysunshine, in adept look for : xserver-xorg-video-intel
[18:42] <rosco_y> Can anyone tell me how to create a link to a directory?
[18:42] <Idespnnr> !ln
[18:43] <rosco_y> thanks ubottu :)
[18:44] <k4ever> sorry guys but this is ridiculous.  i wish everyone who uses jaunty well.  i'm getting off this train wreck.  please fix wifi and CLOSED SOURCE ati support for the sake of your users.
[18:44] <roysunshine92> blueskaj are you still there?what should i search?
[18:44] <enrico_> ciao
[18:45] <Chr|s> whats a iso burning app I can use? k3b?
[18:45] <BluesKaj> roysunshine, in adept look for : xserver-xorg-video-intel
[18:45] <agoole> my usb worked just last night, and now none of my usb devices work, can anyone help ?
[18:45] <agoole> Chr|s: yup,
[18:45] <Wolfcastle> hello
[18:45] <agoole> Chr|s: just select to burn a disc image when you start the app
[18:45] <roysunshine92> no matches found blueskaj
[18:46] <Wolfcastle> is it possible to compile katapult in kde 4.2?
[18:47] <valdur55> :) I WILL try booting...
[18:47] <valdur55> cya!
[18:47] <BluesKaj> roysunshine92 , cpoy and paste xserver-xorg-video-intel, into the seartchbar in adept
[18:48] <roysunshine92> blueskaj i did so.
[18:48] <roysunshine92> it simply tells me no matches found
[18:48] <bryan> kubuntu uses kde, does ubuntu use gnome?
[18:48] <White_Pelican> yes
[18:48] <BluesKaj> it should be listed , roysunshine92
[18:48] <roysunshine92> should i try using synaptic?
[18:48] <bryan> can anyone recommend a good site for skins?
[18:49] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu are you running , roysunshine92?
[18:49] <roysunshine92> gnome-look.org i think bryan
[18:49] <roysunshine92> kubuntu 9.04
[18:49] <bryan> roysunshine92: thanks, ill look for some.
[18:49] <BluesKaj> try synaptic sure
[18:49] <agoole> I have a problem mounting usb, seems it always reverts to my cdrom ??
[18:50] <rmrfslash> bryan: there's also kde-look.org
[18:51] <Wolfcastle> how do I configure keyboard shortcuts in kubunut 9.04?
[18:51] <Wolfcastle> in kde 3.5 i could select between profiles of shortcuts
[18:51] <Wolfcastle> I can't find that now
[18:52] <roysunshine92> blueskaj it founds me a lot of things.
[18:52] <roysunshine92> how can i know which's right?
[18:53] <BluesKaj> look for the exact driver, xserver-xorg-video-intel
[18:53] <aleite> Hello guys... to install kde 3 on jaunty all I have to do is put -kde3 on the package?
[18:53] <roysunshine92> the exact one
[18:53] <p-f_> anyone have ideas regarding how I could fix vim's syntax highlighting, which broke after updating to jaunty?
[18:53] <roysunshine92> blueskaj i removed it because it has a lot of problems in 3d
[18:54] <BluesKaj> aleite, kde3libs i think
[18:54] <aleite> BluesKaj: No, there isn't one ...
[18:55] <aleite> I wanted to install amarok-kde3
[18:55] <BluesKaj> kde3
[18:55] <roysunshine92> i should put it back now?my only problem is that i cannot save the configuration with disabled hdmi.
[18:55] <BluesKaj> aleite , google for amarok14
[18:55] <aleite> The problem is that apt doesn't find any kde3 package
[18:55] <aleite> Is it on a separate repository?
[18:57] <BluesKaj> aleite, look for amarok 14 in adept
[18:58] <roysunshine92> blueskaj there isn't a configuration file that i should change to set the resolution?
[18:59] <aleite> blueskaj, there isn't any amarok14
[18:59] <BluesKaj> aleite , enable the third party repos in adept\
[19:03] <unanxbt> hi everyone, demonoid.com registration is open, hurry up
[19:04] <tesla> Привет !
[19:04] <MimmoX> hi everyone
[19:05] <shubuntu> hi
[19:05] <MimmoX> may I ask some help about amarok2?
[19:05] <BluesKaj> !ru | tesla
[19:05] <ralmar> Hey guys, can I upgrade from x86 8.10 to x64 9.04 with the alternate install cd? Thanks
[19:06] <MimmoX> It's that I can't manage a media device (a chinapod) like i did on amarok fast forward
[19:06] <shubuntu> i'm trying to figure out how to uninstall a really annoying program
[19:06] <yousef_> ...so is there going to be 9.04 with KDE 3??
[19:06] <yousef_> cause if not then i dunno
[19:06] <ralmar>  Can i still install x86 programs by adding x86 repositories, on a 9.04 x64 installation? (Im worried I wont find x64 versions of some software..)
[19:07] <yousef_> does anyone know if there will be 9.04 with KDE 3?
[19:09] <cspack> yes i think there is a jaunty remix with kde 3.5
[19:10] <brano> hi guys
[19:10] <yousef_> oh, but on the upgrade instructions they dont even mention it
[19:10] <brano> i've updated to jaunty and i have no system tray icon for guidance power manager..? don't you have any idea why?
[19:11] <cspack> yousef_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[19:11] <BluesKaj> yousef_, it's still in the dev stage ...strange but true
[19:12] <yousef_> oh ok thanks
[19:14] <shubuntu> i'm new to kubuntu; i installed a really annoying program & can't get rid of it!
[19:14] <ignoramus> shubuntu: what did you install, and how did you install it?
[19:14] <shubuntu> i installed a game thru another program..
[19:15] <ignoramus> shubuntu: did you install it through the package manager?
[19:15] <ignoramus> shubuntu: "another program" means nothing to me
[19:15] <freak_> i'm new to ubuntu, i recently installed it, and made my friends install it too, how to we setup a vpn kind of thing between ourselves on this?
[19:15] <shubuntu> yes, it was package manager
[19:16] <ignoramus> shubuntu: so open package manager, and mark program for removal, and apply
[19:16] <shubuntu> i tried, but it's no longer listed..
[19:17] <ignoramus> shubuntu: what's the name of the app?
[19:17] <shubuntu> vista app
[19:17] <ignoramus> shubuntu: have you tried re-installing it through package manager, and then once installed, purging it?
[19:17] <ignoramus> shubuntu: not the most elegant way, but easy enough for a new user to do
[19:18] <shubuntu> re-install gnome desktop?
[19:18] <ignoramus> shubuntu: what? you said the app you installed was "vista app"
[19:19] <shubuntu> yes, it's not listed in the package manager
[19:19] <ignoramus> shubuntu: so how did you install it?  You said you installed it through the package manager
[19:20] <eportel6607> Hi guys!  Can anybody tell me where I can get the kernel source for 8.04 and 7.04 Kubuntu....specifily the kernel patches?   I've been looking for about a week now with no real leads?
[19:20] <shubuntu> yes, it was in the package manager when i installed it, and it's no longer there
[19:20] <cspack> maybe try sudo apt-get purge "appname" if you can't find it in the package manager
[19:20] <ignoramus> shubuntu: try what cspack said
[19:20] <ignoramus> eportel6607: kerneltrap should have it
[19:20] <flo___> salut à tous
[19:21] <flo___> Hi all
[19:21] <shubuntu> sudo apt-get purge vista-app?
[19:21] <ignoramus> shubuntu: yes, if the name of the app is "vista-app"
[19:21] <shubuntu> i will try that! thanks..
[19:21] <eportel6607> ignoramus: "kerneltrap"..hmm what's that?  A site?..or a user on this irc?
[19:22] <ignoramus> eportel6607: http://kerneltrap.org/
[19:22] <eportel6607> ignoramus: Thanks man!
[19:22] <ignoramus> eportel6607: np
[19:22] <eportel6607> ignoramus: hey does ubuntu/kubuntu "store" this in any package?
[19:22] <liber> Hello there. How do I remove the google-search bar from konqueror?
[19:23] <ignoramus> eportel6607: or http://www.kernel.org/
[19:23] <yogayou> How do I install the latest qt-creator?
[19:23] <eportel6607> ignoramus: but Kubuntu/Ubuntu have A LOT of patch from what I can gather....do you think that Kernel trap will that the ones especially for Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[19:24] <mankeletor> hello there, cannot conect to internet in the new version 9.04.. anyone can gimme a hand?
[19:24] <ignoramus> eportel6607: I don't know if there are Ubuntu-specific kernels... I've always used regular Generic Linux Images
[19:25] <michael_> Does anyone know how to hide the timestamps in Quassel?
[19:25] <bulletgani> mankeletor: how are u tryign to connect ..... wired/wireless ?
[19:25] <ignoramus> liber: "konqueror-plugin-searchbar"
[19:25] <ignoramus> liber: i think
[19:26] <eportel6607> ignoramus: oh...well from what I understand Kubuntu uses a generic kernel BUT it's patched to kingdom come!
[19:26] <valdur55> Hei!
[19:26] <valdur55> Hey!
[19:27] <liber> ignoramus: thx. it was correct
[19:27] <ignoramus> liber: np
[19:27] <mankeletor> bulletgani: i have hsdpa connection, it seems like wvdial.la package is missing no the newest version
[19:27] <ignoramus> eportel6607: you may want to check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/
[19:27] <valdur55> How can use webcam?
[19:28] <bulletgani> sorry ..... no experience with HSDPA
[19:28] <eportel6607> ignoramus: Ahhhh thanks man! cool :)
[19:28] <ignoramus> eportel6607: np.  hope you find what you're looking for.
[19:29] <eportel6607> ignoramus: thank you....it hasn't been easy
[19:29] <ignoramus> eportel6607: check with the guys in #ubuntu-kernel  . They should be able to help further.
[19:30] <eportel6607> ignoramus: Great thanks
[19:31]  * BluesKaj wonders if wubi is up to date , using jaunty ?
[19:32] <mankeletor> np bulletgani, i know how to make it work but need that package first.. ppp already installed
[19:32] <mankeletor> *works
[19:32] <michael_> BluesKaj: I installed Kubuntu Jaunty using wubi.  There were a few updates to be done after installing, but not many.
[19:33] <bulletgani> mankeletor: what HSDPA chipset do you have ?
[19:33] <bulletgani> are drivers an issue ?
[19:35] <mankeletor> no problems with drivers it works correctly, just need the package wvdial to stablish the connection
[19:35] <BluesKaj> thx michael_ , i was thinking of installing it on our laptop for security's sake while travelling due to the unsecured wifi systems in hotels etc
[19:37] <agoole> can anyone recommend a wifi viewer ?
[19:37] <BluesKaj> agoole , try wavemon
[19:38] <michael_> i put it on my Lenovo T61, everything worked fine right out of the box, wifi, sound, video, etc..
[19:38] <agoole> BluesKaj: euh...for kde ? or is this console only ?
[19:39] <BluesKaj> yeah console , agoole
[19:39] <agoole> BluesKaj: I was looking for a kde one, its for my folks, haha, they need simpler
[19:40] <BluesKaj> just wavemon in the terminal brings it up
[19:40] <agoole> BluesKaj: I was looking for more of a kde look, and also something that starts up at boot
[19:41] <mankeletor> bulletgani: can you search wvdial in your apt-get and tell me where the hell is it? LOL i need to download it manually
[19:41] <mankeletor> that issue is killing me
[19:41] <BluesKaj> agoole, try this site , there are cool suggestions here, http://www.marcelgagne.com/cwl092004.html
[19:42] <ScorpKing> mankeletor: what's the problem?
[19:42] <mankeletor> intrepid already has that command but jaunty dont got it =(
[19:43] <ScorpKing> aaroncampbell: use pon & poff
[19:43] <ScorpKing> aaroncampbell: run pppconfig first though
[19:43] <mankeletor> ScorpKing: need to get wvdial package
[19:43] <ScorpKing> aaroncampbell: may i ask why?
[19:43] <PSiL0> For intrepid ibex (kde 4.2.2), how can I revert back to the default kubuntu fonts?  I played with anti-aliasing the other day and I didn't like the results, and I found out that I couldn't revert back to the default by pressing default.  Deleting ~/.kde improved things, but the fonts are less full than the default install
[19:43] <ScorpKing> !find wvdial
[19:43] <pr> Hello all, I can connecto to internet, IRC but apt-get and kopete don't work, can anyone help me?
[19:44] <ScorpKing> !info wvdial
[19:44] <PSiL0> also tried reconfiguring the font from dpkg font-reconfigure (or sorta), native automatic and no.  Didn't improve things either
[19:45] <ScorpKing> aaroncampbell: according to the bot it should be in the main repo.
[19:46] <brhad56_> So I upgraded to 9.04 and now seems flash is broken.
[19:47] <XPS_M1330> how can I manually gruop tasks in the task manager?
[19:49] <mankeletor> ScorpKing: thx =) what souce: wvdial means? no binary for wvdial?
[19:49] <agoole> BluesKaj: I looked at those links, there wasn't anything for the latest kde,
[19:50] <agoole> BluesKaj: Can I use a gnome app maybe ?
[19:50] <jeremias_> hello
[19:50] <BluesKaj> agoole, yeah should work
[19:50] <agoole> BluesKaj: know of any good gnome apps ?
[19:52] <jimmy_> hello there
[19:53] <JB_> hi
[19:54] <ScorpKing> aaroncampbell: that source refers to the package that you'd find wvdial in.
[19:54] <brhad56_> Anyone else have issues with flash not working after upgrading to 9.04?
[19:54] <JB_> yes me
[19:55] <brhad56_> know of a work around?
[19:55] <Lynoure> brhad56_: and me.
[19:55] <JB_> not really
[19:55] <agoole> I had to use the adobe installer, to get it working
[19:55] <JB_> I just tried to download it many times until it was able to and installed it
[19:55] <brhad56_> adobe's installer wouldn't work for me, because i am on AMD64
[19:56] <JB_> Im on AMD 64
[19:56] <JB_> It worked
[19:56] <brhad56_> did you use the deb file?
[19:56] <agoole> yeah theres a prebuilt deb
[19:56] <JB_> what browser do you use
[19:56] <brhad56_> brad@Tempest:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[19:56] <brhad56_> dpkg: error processing install_flash_player_10_linux.deb (--install):
[19:56] <brhad56_>  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[19:56] <brhad56_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[19:56] <brhad56_>  install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[19:57] <brhad56_> firefox
[19:57] <Lynoure> JB_: I had the problem both with Konqueror and FF
[19:57] <JB_> It worked on FF
[19:57] <agoole> anyone here recommend a wifi viewer ?
[19:57] <agoole> seems theres nothing by default with the new jauty
[19:57] <JB_> but  still there are issues
[19:57] <agoole> jaunty*
[19:58] <Lynoure> JB_, brhad56_: if you both upgraded, could you check if you can add keyboard layouts from Settings -> Regional -> Keyboard layouts? I cannot, and I'm wondering if it is an upgrade problem or something specific to my system.
[19:58] <sasharu> agoole, iwlist scan?
[19:59] <JB_> I did when installing
[19:59] <agoole> sasharu: is that console only ? this is for someone who doesn't use console
[19:59] <sasharu> схуяли это тебе консоль не нравится?
[19:59] <sasharu> sorry
[20:00] <JB_> this KDE still has many issue it just closes windows for no reason
[20:00] <brhad56_> Lynoure: its letting me add new layouts
[20:00] <Lynoure> brhad56_: ok, thanks, then I think I'll try some more things :)
[20:05] <lucas_> hello, I would like to change the speed of the mouse, but only for one dimension
[20:06] <wags> I have an old vesiob of kubuntu
[20:06] <ignoramus> is it possible to cut/copy/paste files that are displayed in the Desktop Folder View widget?
[20:06] <wags> how do I update??
[20:06] <wags> to 9.04
[20:06] <ignoramus> wags: you can use adept to do a full upgrade
[20:06] <lucas_> is there a command, or can i do this with hal/fdi?
[20:06] <ignoramus> wags: it will say there's a new version available
[20:06] <wags> ok ok
[20:07] <wags> so I jest type adept
[20:07] <wags> *just
[20:07] <ignoramus> wags: open Adept, and refresh sources
[20:07] <ignoramus> wags: once that finishes, there should be a blue arrow at the top
[20:08] <ignoramus> wags: Version Upgrade
[20:08] <lucas_> ignoramus: i can copy files in the desktop folder view
[20:08] <wags> ok thanks
[20:08] <ignoramus> lucas_: really?  that option does not show up for me...
[20:08] <lucas_> i just used Ctrl-C
[20:09] <lucas_> ignoramus: but you are right, it's missing from the context menu
[20:09] <karamella> ANY ONE CAN HELP ME?
[20:09] <lucas_> ignoramus:  paste on the other hand is shown
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> wassup karamella
[20:10] <karamella> HOW can make my desk top faster in ubunto?
[20:10] <wags> ignoramus: thanks for that
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> karamella: install a lighter DE
[20:11] <ign0ramus> wags: np
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> karamella: reduce running services
[20:11] <ign0ramus> lucas_: yup, keyboard shortcuts seem to work, but there's no option in context menu
[20:11] <karamella> from system monitor
[20:11] <lucas_> karamella: tell us, what exactly doesn't work
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> karamella: reduce swappiness, install local dns
[20:12] <PSiL0> question, For intrepid ibex (kde 4.2.2), how can I revert back to the default kubuntu fonts?  I played with anti-aliasing the other day and I didn't like the results, and I found out that I couldn't revert back to the default by pressing default.  Deleting ~/.kde improved things, but the fonts are less full than the default install
[20:12] <lucas_> ign0ramus: you could file a bug-report (it's probably very easy to fix)
[20:12] <ign0ramus> lucas_: you replicated?
[20:12] <karamella> how to install local dns
[20:12] <lucas_> ign0ramus: ?
[20:13] <lucas_> karamella: why would you like to do this?
[20:13] <karamella> what
[20:13] <ign0ramus> lucas_: are you able to reproduce the same situation? (ie, no cut/copy/paste in right-click menu)?
[20:13] <lucas_> karamella: install local dns
[20:13] <karamella> how
[20:13] <ign0ramus> lucas_: just want to make sure its not some setting I have
[20:13] <lucas_> ign0ramus: yes, no copy or cut.   paste exists
[20:13] <ign0ramus> lucas_: ok, filing.  thanks.
[20:14] <lucas_> ign0ramus: thanks for filing
[20:14] <lucas_> karamella: why do you need a local dns?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> karamella: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/local-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing/
[20:14] <brhad56_> FYI: I got the flashplayer in firefox to work by removing flashplugin and nspluginwrapper through apt-get and  then reinstalling flash through adept
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> lucas_: if you can speed up dns with a local dns then your webbrowsing will be faster
[20:14] <__Adam__> Hello, Help, I have upgraded to 9.04 an now i have no networking - when i try to ping i get sendmsg:not permitted
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: have you tried populating the /etc/resolv.conf
[20:15] <karamella> cool thanks
[20:15] <lucas_> karamella: to be honest, I don't think, it's worth the effort
[20:15] <karamella> and
[20:15] <__Adam__> populating with what?
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: can you access your routers config page
[20:15] <__Adam__> i use DHCP
[20:15] <__Adam__> no
[20:15] <karamella> i know
[20:15] <__Adam__> i am pinging the router
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> lucas_: it really is, its speeds up stuff online no end
[20:15] <__Adam__> it fails
[20:16] <lucas_> karamella: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=331850
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: HMM, do you have an ip address suitable for your lan
[20:16] <__Adam__> yes from DCHP
[20:16] <lucas_> karamella: i use pdns on my server, and it's quite easy to set up
[20:16] <__Adam__> DHCP :)
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: can you ping your router?
[20:17] <__Adam__> no i get sendmsg:not permitted
[20:17] <__Adam__> no i get sendmsg:operation not permitted
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: ok let me websearch
[20:17] <__Adam__> i have tried with networkmanager and wicd
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: are you running a firewall of any kind on the linux box?
[20:18] <wags> has anyone got that latest version of Vuze working??
[20:18] <wags> I have tried but it does not update
[20:18] <__Adam__> not intentionly, i have disabled ufw
[20:18] <ppibburr> i upgrade 8.10 to 9.04 and now i cant login
[20:18] <ign0ramus> lucas_: filing a bug report, but what is the name of the Plasmoid package for Folder view?
[20:19] <karamella> wow its so long way
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: ok
[20:19] <lucas_> ign0ramus: don't know, but inside the info from the folder view i found the following note: "Please report bugs to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:20] <ActionParsnip> karamella: hardly. install dnsmasq, tell it to listen to <IP_ADDRESS> and add <IP_ADDRESS> as a name server, then restart dnsmasq
[20:20] <ign0ramus> lucas_: good call.  I'll email him directly.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: do you use 192.168.0.x like every other home network?
[20:21] <__Adam__> no i use <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: ok and what is the name of the device you are using?
[20:21] <__Adam__> ASUS laptop :)
[20:21] <karamella> another thing please
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: wlan0? eth0?
[20:22] <__Adam__> eth0
[20:22] <__Adam__> get same on wlan0
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: sudo route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> eth0
[20:22] <karamella> i need a software about how to burn a cd in iso
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> karamella: you already have it
[20:22] <lucas_> karamella: k3b
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> karamella: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/image.iso
[20:22] <karamella> realy
[20:23] <karamella> sorry
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/ping-sendmsg-operation-not-permitted-307848/
[20:23] <karamella>  i still new in this system
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> karamella: you'll learn
[20:23] <__Adam__> route was already there now in table twice
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: hmm, that may be a thing
[20:25] <__Adam__> ?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: 2 entries may affect stuff. try: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:26] <jeye617> peejah?
[20:26] <__Adam__> done that, still cant ping
[20:27] <__Adam__> any new firewalls added to 9.04???
[20:28] <lucas_> __Adam__: do you have the live cd from jj?
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> !firewall
[20:28] <__Adam__> no it was a distro upgeade from 8.10
[20:28] <karamella>  i already found it
[20:28] <karamella> tell me
[20:28] <__Adam__> ufw says its disabled
[20:29] <mackk431> hello i am trying to install java script for kubuntu 9.04. i tried almost everything i could find in the internet but its still not working. can anybody help?
[20:29] <Dragnslcr> mackk431- Javascript? You don't install it, it's part of your web browser
[20:30] <mackk431> if i use a page what requires java script it says "you dont have java script"
[20:30] <karamella> in the same partion i install the system ubunto it was another folder espcially music folder it dissapear after installing ubinto
[20:30] <wags_> the new version of kubuntu is awesome
[20:30] <karamella> where shoud i found
[20:30] <Dragnslcr> mackk431- what web browser?
[20:30] <mackk431> firefox
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> mackk431: java script is default in nearly all browsers
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> mackk431: i thing you mean java plugin
[20:31] <Dragnslcr> And did you install an extension that disables Javascript?
[20:31] <Dragnslcr> Or did you disable it in the Firefox settings?
[20:32] <mackk431> in addons is "IcedTea java Web Browser Plugin" and it is activated
[20:32] <Dragnslcr> That has nothing to do with Javascript
[20:32] <mackk431> there is nothing else what says java
[20:33] <karamella> should prfer for 2.4 intel procceror
[20:33] <mackk431> i tried this before "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[20:33] <mackk431> not working
[20:33] <__Adam__> mackk431: Do you have NoScript addon installed at all btw?
[20:33] <mackk431> i dont have NoScript addon installed
[20:34] <__Adam__> mackk431: The Javascript setting under Firefox is at edit->preferences->content->enable javascript
[20:35] <__Adam__> Might be worth double checking that
[20:35] <__Adam__> guess i have to go back to 8.10 then?
[20:35] <mackk431> adam you are right it was disabled there
[20:36] <mackk431> ok i try that page
[20:36] <__Adam__> mackk431: :) If it's now enabled, you're good to go
[20:37] <mackk431> thanks adam that fixed it the page is working now
[20:38] <__Adam__> mackk431: np :)
[20:40] <wags_> Do I need to setup guarddog??
[20:40] <wags_> I have smoothwall as my main firewall
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> wags_: if you have a firewall its a waste to have another
[20:40] <wags_> yeh my network should be clean
[20:41] <mackk431> it is better to deactivate java out of security reasons?
[20:41] <mackk431> is it
[20:42] <wags_> does anyone know how setup a raid5??
[20:42] <wags_> a gui would be nice
[20:43] <__Adam__> mackk431: Javascript shouldn't present any issues, and from my personal experience, there's not many dangerous Java progs out there
[20:43] <karamella> how can i get ubunto last verison in egypt?
[20:43] <mackk431> ok
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> !getubuntu
[20:47] <karamella> there is no torrnet link to get the last verison
[20:48] <seele> how do you update proprietary video drivers?
[20:50] <wags> If I open a port for torrents, should I set it up on a DMZ??
[20:50] <wags> or should it be ok
[20:50] <kesek> why ?
[20:50] <wags> if I get hacked
[20:50] <kesek> IF you forwarded a port.
[20:50] <kesek> Hacked?
[20:50] <kesek> >.>
[20:50] <braden_> anyone know the fix for vmware-tools vmhgfs build error?
[20:51] <wags> kesek: do you think it should be fine??
[20:51] <kesek> Of course
[20:51] <wags> cool
[20:51] <kesek> Just forwared the port.
[20:51] <kesek> and use a non-standard port
[20:51] <kesek> 65510
[20:51] <kesek> or something
[20:51] <wags> ok thx
[20:52] <kesek> np.
[20:53] <__Adam__> ActionParsnip: The actual owner of this nick just tried to untar a system backup whilst the system was running, to go back to 8.10... is that not as good as I think it is?
[20:53] <mackk431> in my opinion its hard to hack a linux system
[20:53] <mackk431> even if you have backdoors
[20:54] <mackk431> the hacker has to have root rights to do great damage
[20:54] <mackk431> and that is nearly impossible
[20:54] <__Adam__> mackk431: Though it depends if you're to do damage or just peeve people off
[20:54] <mackk431> but i say it isnt possible
[20:55] <mackk431> impossible
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: not sure, you could always boot to livecd and do it properly which will circumvent any badness that may have happened
[20:55] <__Adam__> ActionParsnip: yeah - he's trying to do that now, but his livecd isn't playing ball atm :S
[20:56] <braden_> so nobody here is running kubuntu in vmware?
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: hmm
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> braden_: no, i run it native, much faster
[20:56] <__Adam__> He asked me for the command to untar a tarball, but I didn't know what for before it was too late ;(
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: oh boy
[20:57] <braden_> its pretty fast as a VM
[20:57] <wags> is there gparted for kde??
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> braden_: vm wil neve be as fast as native
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> wags: sudo apt-get install gparted
[20:58] <wags> thx
[20:59] <braden_> its seems pretty fast to me. I run a linux content filter proxy at work with 160 user load as a VM with no performance isses.
[21:00] <braden_> and its serving 2 other VMs plus host OS
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> braden_: only 2 VMs>
[21:00] <braden_> 3 VM
[21:00] <braden_> 1 nix 2 windows
[21:00] <wags> I have a spare drive for files.  What filesystem should I use??
[21:00] <braden_> and windows host
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> braden_: we have 12 VM severs with 9 VMs on each running Citrix
[21:01] <braden_> do they run fast"?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> braden_: admittedly the earliest 5 are running 2.5 :(
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> braden_: they run ok but are rental so have low SLA
[21:02] <braden_> ug
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> the newer ones are awesome
[21:03] <braden_> yup, I have phased out most of my old hardware
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> braden_: we're continually rolling stuff
[21:04] <braden_> same here. never a boring moment in the IT world.   Otherwise, 'man mount'
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> braden_: oh we dont need that, they changed ALL the user names to have a prefix on to differentiate the admins from users, completly pointless
[21:07] <Altusanew> Hello all.  Has anyone tried to install QT Creator from the repos, and if so has it come with the QT documentation?  I can't seem to get it to pull up like it was when I was looking at the .9x version on Kubuntu 8.10.
[21:07] <amaterasu> ign0ramus: i need that applet. long story.
[21:08] <ign0ramus> amaterasu: again, what did you use it to mount? other partitions? flash drives?
[21:08] <braden_> ;) but someone thought that was a really good idea right?
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> braden_: oh totally :(
[21:09] <braden_> its just 10 hours of work.....we didn't have a mile long list of things to complete already, let bump this one up the list so we can piss the IT department off
[21:09] <braden_> I think they plot against us
[21:10] <Altusanew> I guess everyone is sticking with Kdevelop then?  :-)
[21:10] <ign0ramus> amaterasu: pysdm?
[21:11] <ign0ramus> amaterasu: ntfs-3g?
[21:11] <braden_> I had the same thing go down a few months ago. They decided that the user directory of my Call Manager server needed updated so it looked more organized. Only about 14 hours of work when all they needed to do was learn how to use the reports on the server...But you cant tell the boss that ;)
[21:11] <core|Greenberet> hi
[21:12] <amaterasu> ign0ramus: flash drives and whatnot
[21:12] <amaterasu> simple kicker applet
[21:12] <amaterasu> installed it 100x but eaxch time i install a new machine... i forget the name. something like kde-drivemount or such
[21:12] <__Adam__> Right what has the missus been sayinG!
[21:12] <core|Greenberet> does someone know how to write "^^" without typing the ^ key 4 times? ( i want to type it 2 times  for this result )
[21:14] <Jampiter> core|Greenberet: Shift ^ twice?
[21:14] <amaterasu> ign0ramus: possibly part of kicker-applets, need to restart...
[21:14] <core|Greenberet> shift ^ creates °
[21:15] <core|Greenberet> german keyboard btw
[21:15] <core|Greenberet> if that matters
[21:16] <__Adam__> think its restoring now
[21:27] <__Adam__> chalcedony !
[21:27]  * __Adam__ huggles chalcedony
[21:28] <alex_crash> hello!
[21:28] <bry> i need help, all of a sudden the "i" key doesn't work in pidgin conversation window, it works in the buddy list and all other programs just not in a conversation window in pidgin. it just happened randomly how do i fix it?
[21:28] <bry> capital "I" works
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> bry: does a restat help?
[21:37] <Mark_ilb> getting the following error when installing sysvinit :   error breaks existing package 'upstart' conflict:sysvinit (
[21:38] <jacalope> hi all!  another question: i installed jaunty RC2 and update constantly.  Currently, i have amarok 2.0.1, but i thought the release had 2.0.2??
[21:40] <faroui> Salut
[21:40] <linux-hdtv> what would you use for ICQ ?
[21:41] <p-f> is anyone else having hibernation problems after updating to jaunty?
[21:41] <srobert> Can I perform an upgrade from intrepid with a CD?
[21:41] <p-f> and vim syntax highlighting problems?
[21:41] <p-f> and wifi stability problems?
[21:41] <alex_crash> linux-hdtv: LICQ...
[21:42] <linux-hdtv> is that cli ?
[21:42] <p-f> linux-hdtv: if you want cli, you could install a local bitlbee server (or use a public one), which is an irc gateway to other im protocols
[21:42] <__Adam__> what permissions should my /var directory have?
[21:42] <p-f> linux-hdtv: licq also has a cli mode if I remember well, but that was aeons ago
[21:43] <jacalope> p-f: I actually have less hibernation and wifi probs with jaunty, so far, but i don't think that's the case for everyone
[21:43] <p-f> jacalope: the upgrade actually made everything worse, which I didn't think possible :)
[21:43] <linux-hdtv> i am looking for gui, thank you :-)
[21:43] <p-f> then you could try pidgin, unless you're into decent UIs and everything
[21:44] <p-f> it's the least bad from what I've seen
[21:44] <skierpage> srobert, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu suggests you can upgrade with the Alternate CD
[21:45] <srobert> skierpage: Thanks
[21:45] <doleyb> linux-hdtv: there is finch and centerim.. and more
[21:46] <Mark_ilb> getting the following error when installing sysvinit :   error breaks existing package 'upstart' conflict:sysvinit (
[21:47] <doleyb> linux-hdtv: but i'd think the kubuntu standard is kopete, which you must have already tried...
[21:47] <alex_crash> p-f: respect :-)
[21:50] <Mark_ilb> is it possible to install tg3 on ubuntu
[21:52] <luigi_> ciao
[21:56] <Onyx> I just switched over to KDE, and accidentally deleted the widget that shows my desktop icons.  How do I get it back?
[21:57] <doleyb> Onyx: right-click add widget, and folder view, and pick your ~/Desktop
[22:03] <skierpage> I just installed Kubuntu 9.04.  Are there any sample files to test multimedia?  I'm not sure sound is working.
[22:04] <devilsadvocate> skierpage: youtube :P
[22:06] <skierpage> devilsadvocate "Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player."
[22:06] <devilsadvocate> skierpage:  /usr/share/sounds/
[22:07] <heberth> hola gente !
[22:07] <core|Greenberet> hi, does someone know how to add "reboot and start os Y"
[22:07] <core|Greenberet> to the start menu
[22:08] <heberth> holaaa
[22:08] <skierpage> devilsadvocate, thanks!  I found /usr/share/sounds, and clicking on a sound in Dolphin made a noise.  Should be in a FAQ somewhere
[22:16] <doleyb> skierpage: the system settings -> multimedia has test buttons too
[22:20] <alarm> hello, how can i upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04?
[22:22] <ahmos> hi, i just installed jaunty jakalope inside windows but there is no sound
[22:23] <ahmos> so any help please
[22:25] <trasgo> hi
[22:28] <ahmos> hello
[22:28] <ahmos> !sond
[22:28] <ahmos> !sound
[22:32] <kaddi_> i'm looking for a bb-code editor with a preview function. does anybody know one?
[22:33] <orzel> hello. are there any known issue with intel graphic chipset  ? i have a kubuntu that worked perfectly until i've updated to 9.04. Now a small part (~3%?) is missing at the bottom of the screen in kde. That get fixed by switching to another resolution, and then back to the original one .....
[22:35] <mackk431> did you check the alsa setting ahmos? could be the problem
[22:35] <mackk431> sometimes the al chip gets muted
[22:35] <mackk431> dont know why
[22:36] <ahmos> i checked th mixer and every thing is working, my card is recognizes,
[22:36] <ahmos> so how to check it in your way
[22:37] <mackk431> open a terminal and type alsamixer. what do you see?
[22:38] <Guest72982> #gayemiliaromagna
[22:38] <ahmos> i have done that and everything is normal
[22:38] <mackk431> nothing is muted?
[22:38] <ahmos> nothing
[22:38] <mackk431> hm
[22:39] <mackk431> its beyond my present knowledge than
[22:40] <ahmos> :) ok thank you for your time
[22:40] <mackk431> urw
[22:42] <Onyx> I'm using compiz-fusion/emerald, and I just switched from Gnome to KDE.  My scrollbar/file menus in some applications are still using the old decorations.  Does this need to be changed somewhere other than compiz?
[22:45] <doleyb> orzel: maybe read the notes in the topic
[22:46] <ubuntu> i
[22:47] <ubuntu> i'm using kubuntu with windows, and was wondering if I could install it on a cdrom?
[22:48] <Onyx> ubuntu: You can't install things on a CD.
[22:48] <ubuntu> hmm
[22:49] <arte_> Hola
[22:49] <ubuntu> in windows, it says that i have about 23 gb of free space on my C drive, but when trying to install kubuntu it says that all of my disk is used.
[23:03] <dima_> Hi,everyone. After I close firefox, it wouldn't really stop to run. I still can see it in "ps ax" output. Does anyone else experience this?
[23:05] <fungos> I'm using 9,04 and KPackageKit is giving error saying that there is a Lock. How can I "clean" this lock?
[23:06] <kaddi_> fungos: when does it tell you that there is a lock?
[23:06] <fungos> when I try to install anything :S
[23:07] <fungos> I thinks that there is another package manager opened.. but It should be from a previous crash
[23:07] <kaddi_> this usually means that you have more than one updatemanager popened
[23:08] <fungos> yes, but there is none, it must be from previous crash. btw, this crashes a lot more that adept from 8.10
[23:09] <fungos> any idea where it keep the locks?
[23:09] <Dragnslcr> !aptfix | fungos
[23:09] <kaddi_> argh, still searching for the right command XD
[23:10] <kaddi_> is there a list of all ubottu-commands?
[23:11] <kinkie> Hi all.. I have two questions on kubuntu Jaunty. First is network-manager: I can't seem to configure a 802.11X connection as system-level, the checkbox in knetworkmanager is grayed-out. Second is: I'd like to migrate my root filesystem to a logical volume, but update-initramfs doesn't seem to pick the LV up... any hints? Thanks
[23:12] <kaddi_> kinkie do you have an acer?
[23:12] <Onyx> Is there a way to make GTK apps respect my KDE theme settings?  Firefox, GIMP, and the like are using GTK-style scrollbars/file menus instead of respecting my theme.
[23:12] <kinkie> kaddi_: HP laptop
[23:12] <BluesKaj> well I reinstalled jaunty on the laptop but now the wifi is hopeless it just quits after trying to make it connect with network manager. I wonder if there's a tutorial about setup with this app which either won't remeber your settings or won't let you change them once they're set ..  a most frustrating exersise
[23:13] <kaddi_> kinkie there is a bugreport for acer concerning networkmanager: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/350352
[23:13] <fungos> fuser wont return nothing.
[23:13] <fungos> removing the lock wont fix the problem
[23:13] <fungos> still saying it has a lock
[23:14] <kaddi_> kinkie i had a lot of problems with knetworkmanager, finally i chose to use the gnome-applet (start with nm-applet in shell) which works fine for me... might be worth a try?
[23:14] <kinkie> kaddi_: the acer bugreport doesn't seem to fit, I see no Atheros modules. Trying the gnome panel
[23:16] <kaddi_> fungos: maybe this'll help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2750296#post2750296
[23:17] <kaddi_> it'll probably kill your update manager
[23:17] <kaddi_> so make sure no more updates are running ;)
[23:19] <asdzx> hi
[23:19] <kinkie> BRB. rebooting to check whether it works.
[23:19] <asdzx> is it possible to set shotcuts in Konsole for switching tabs ?
[23:20] <asdzx> it was possible in kde3 but i can't find it in kde4
[23:20] <kaddi_> aszdx i can switch tabs with shift+left/right on my pc FWIW
[23:21] <asdzx> kaddi_ me too. is it possible to set it to different shortcut ?
[23:21] <kaddi_> must be :D not sure how though... i'll have a look :D
[23:22] <asdzx> got it
[23:22] <Dragnslcr> !info gtk-qt-engine | Onyx
[23:22] <Dragnslcr> Onyx- that might be what you're looking for
[23:22] <asdzx> it's called 'Next view' and 'Previous view'
[23:22] <asdzx> don't know why it is called a 'view'
[23:23] <Onyx> Dragnslcr: Thank you :)
[23:24] <kinkie> kaddi_: better but still not 100%. The wireless network is accessed, but dhcp is not invoked. Weird...
[23:24] <kinkie> I'll try again tomorrow. Thanks!
[23:24] <kaddi_> cu
[23:27] <asdzx> i'm getting 'Could not connect to wpa_supplicant - re-trying' when i run wpa_cli
[23:27] <asdzx> what's wrong ?
[23:30] <quassel208> echo "base=<your base memory> size=<your memory size> type=write-combining" >| /proc/mtrr
[23:30] <quassel208> whats my base memory ?
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> quassel208: run free
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> free is a konsole command
[23:36] <fungos> this is sad. Nothing works. Isn't there a way to "clean up" dpgk state?
[23:38] <fungos> why the hell kubuntu keep changing package manager?? :S
[23:39] <rocky_fortune> I hate this thing >.<
[23:39] <fungos> and why this new package manager wont ask root password when trying to install/update something?
[23:44] <calamari> hi
[23:45] <calamari> when I would stick in sd cards etc, kde used to show them on the desktop... this has stopped working, any ideas? (kde 3.5)
[23:46] <quassel208> 2024840  what this 2 gb memory in hexadecimal notation?
[23:56] <doleyb> I upgraded to jaunty, and now have silly sound effects when clicking buttons in gtk programs (like gimp, gedit, gnometris, firefox).  But if I log into a gnome session that doesn't happen.  How can I stop it in a kde session?
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> quassel208: 4 294 967 296 = 0x10000000


[03:21] <vychune> hi i cant upload with ftp at all, not even to my home folder. Any ideas on whats wrong
[03:24] <vychune> hello?
[03:25] <cfhowlett> !patience|vychune
[03:26] <cfhowlett> vychune ask in #ubuntu or in ##linux
[06:31] <cloudman> hi, grub wants to update on a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04lts, can someone tell which I should choose, sry, noob here... http://postimg.org/image/ym5g1f4zj/full/
[08:22] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:42] <byte> moin
[09:42] <sebastianlutter> I want to install virtualbox headless on ubuntu server 14.04 (without x11 dependencies if possible, will use rdp to manage guests). But the ose version as well as the puel version from oracle had x11 stuff as dependency. What is the most minimal way to install virtualbox on ubuntu server?
[10:56] <Macer> what is the best way to figure out what is eating up memory?
[10:56] <lordievader> Macer: htop is nice for that.
[10:56] <Macer> Swap:         8.0G       1.3G       6.7G
[10:56] <Macer> seems a bit high
[10:57] <Macer> wonder if zfs is eating up that much
[10:57] <Macer> but then again i have a few containers running
[10:58] <Macer> i'm willing to bet it's the zimbra container i'm running :)
[10:58] <histo> !atemyram | Macer
[10:59] <Macer> turkiss is msging spamming me
[10:59] <Macer> just throwing that out there.. i usually am +g but reconnected a while back
[11:00] <Macer> histo: it isn't the lack of ram that's bothering me...
[11:00] <Macer> it's the fact the swap is getting hit for 1.3GB ;)
[11:00] <cloudman> Hi can anyone recommend a comprehensive study book for running a ubuntu server?  Thanks.
[11:00] <cfhowlett> cloudman "the ubuntu server guide"
[11:01] <cloudman> ;)
[11:01] <histo> Macer: /ignore turkiss
[11:01] <Macer> histo: yeah i get that. i usually am +g irregardless it's just a spambot
[11:01] <histo> Macer: that page will explain it for you
[11:02] <Macer> histo: yeah i'm pretty accustomed to how ram works in linux. but i would still like to know why/where it is hitting the swap
[11:02] <Macer> lordievader: thanks... i'll try it out and look into it
[11:03] <histo> Macer: did you even read the page?
[11:04] <histo> Macer: pastebin your free -m output
[11:05]  * Macer facepalms ... yes. but it didn't explain anything new
[11:06] <Macer> the original question is what can i use to see what is eating memory... lordievader told me htop.. and he was right. i figured out what was eating memory. it was the zimbra container's java
[11:06] <Macer> my swap was getting tagged for 1.3-1.5GB
[11:06] <cfhowlett> cloudman http://www.amazon.com/Official-Ubuntu-Server-Book-3rd/dp/0133017532/ref=la_B001ILKDJI_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1404644737&sr=1-1
[11:10] <dasjoe> cloudman: I'd stick to the Uubuntu Server Guide, coupled with the community wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/
[11:11] <cfhowlett> cloudman this ^^^
[11:12] <dasjoe> !ops | turkiss is a spam bot
[11:13] <histo> dasjoe: more of a freenode issue
[11:14] <cloudman> ty
[11:15] <lordievader> Macer: Swap at 1.3 is nothing to worry about. Swap is not cleared as it is not efficient.
[12:41] <RoyK> Macer: how much memory?
[12:41] <omfgitsasalmon> Hi! Anyone here? I need a little help
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !ask|omfgitsasalmon
[12:43] <RoyK> !ops | turkiss, privmsg spamming
[12:45] <omfgitsasalmon> my old server recently kicked the bucket, and luckily, my hard disk didn't bite the dust. But unfortunately, when I boot from my hard disk, I'm unable to connect to the internet. ifconfig shows only a lo, and no eth0. I bought another disk and installed another copy of ubuntu. When I installed, wired network is working fine. Shows up as p1p3 instead of eth0.
[12:45] <omfgitsasalmon> Now, is there anyway I can re-run network config installation for the old drive because without eth0, I cannot run mysql and thus, is unable to recover my mySQL databases.
[12:46] <cfhowlett> !server|omfgitsasalmon
[12:46] <cfhowlett> DOH!  dammit/ignore me
[12:47] <omfgitsasalmon> eh?
[12:47] <omfgitsasalmon> I'm running ubuntu server, not ubuntu.
[12:47] <omfgitsasalmon> I know what the server franchise is
[12:47] <omfgitsasalmon> oh, I forgot to include. The old hard disk is running 12.04, the new OS is running 14.04
[12:48] <lordievader> omfgitsasalmon: Does the precise install load a driver for your network card?
[12:49] <omfgitsasalmon> lordievader: I have no idea, anyway to check. When booting up, it does show "configuring network" but results in a [FAIL]
[12:49] <lordievader> omfgitsasalmon: lspci -k|grep -A2 Network
[12:51] <omfgitsasalmon> displays nothing
[12:51] <omfgitsasalmon> okay, when I run sudo lshw -class network
[12:51] <omfgitsasalmon> it shows my new card
[12:51] <omfgitsasalmon> but shows "Network Disabled"
[12:51] <rau> omfgitsasalmon: Please stop abusing your return key, you subliterate asswipe.
[12:52] <cfhowlett> rau profanity is not required or allowed here - as you well know
[12:52] <lordievader> omfgitsasalmon: Wait,lspci doesn't show any network device?
[12:54] <omfgitsasalmon> nope
[12:55] <lordievader> omfgitsasalmon: Is this the same if you run lspci without any argument?
[12:56] <omfgitsasalmon> when I run lspci without any arg, it shows an Ethernet controller
[12:56] <omfgitsasalmon> but I think it's the controller for the OLD chasis.
[12:57] <omfgitsasalmon> lshw shows it as a Gigabit Ethernet Controller. Which is the old eth1, my new card is an ASUS built-in.
[12:57] <lordievader> omfgitsasalmon: That can hardly be.
[12:57] <dasjoe> omfgitsasalmon: check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[12:57] <omfgitsasalmon> dasjoe: Vendor shows "Realtek" which is not the case.
[12:58] <dasjoe> omfgitsasalmon: just because you're using an on-board card doesn#t mean it's not a realtek chipset
[12:59] <omfgitsasalmon> I remember it not being a realtek when I run lshw with the new ubuntu.
[12:59] <omfgitsasalmon> let me just reboot into the new OS and run the same command
[12:59] <omfgitsasalmon> 1 sec
[13:03] <omfgitsasalmon> Hmm, You're right, It shows *-network Desc: Ethernet Interface. vendor: Realtek businfo: pci@000:03:00.0 logical name: p3p1 version: 0c serial: e0:3f:49:a3:**:**
[13:04] <RoyK> omfgitsasalmon: I'd use lshw over lspci any day, but good you found it...
[13:04] <dasjoe> omfgitsasalmon: oh, I just read your device shows up as p1p3 instead of eth0, that is expected behavior. Add "biosdevname=0" to your kernel command line to go back to eth0
[13:05] <omfgitsasalmon> dasjoe: When I boot into the old OS, it shows this * Starting configure network device [fail] then after starting a bunch of other devices. it fails at configuring virtual network devices. and it got stuck at "Waiting for network configuration" and then "Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration"
[13:05] <omfgitsasalmon> RoyK: Yes, I used to do lshw when troubleshooting spoilt hw, but this time I have no idea how to fix cause it's a total new chasis lol
[13:06] <omfgitsasalmon> dasjoe: Okay, I'll google how to do that
[13:06] <dasjoe> omfgitsasalmon: that could also be related to /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[13:07] <RoyK> dasjoe: hm... yes - should be easy to remap there
[13:07] <omfgitsasalmon> ahh
[13:09] <omfgitsasalmon> dasjoe: Okay, it now shows eth0 and eth1, eth0 seems to be my old card. With the eth1 showing the same mac addr as the p3p1 of the new system. What and where do I add what?
[13:10] <RoyK> omfgitsasalmon: do you want to swap them?
[13:10] <RoyK> omfgitsasalmon: or have you removed the old eth0 card?
[13:11] <omfgitsasalmon> RoyK: This is a totally new chasis, my old chasis bit the dust, but I swapped the hard disk over. But now it lost network connectivity with ifconfig only showing lo and no eth0 nor eth1
[13:11] <dasjoe> omfgitsasalmon: I'm not sure what exactly you want to do. Did you remove the old eth0 and now want eth1 to take its place? Either remove 70-persistent-net.rules or edit it to your tastes
[13:12] <RoyK> omfgitsasalmon: ifconfig -a ?
[13:12] <dasjoe> omfgitsasalmon: also, "man interfaces" should help you with getting the system back online
[13:12] <omfgitsasalmon> dasjoe: So by removing the entire file it will regen on boot again? And my /etc/network/interfaces seems screwed as well showing eth0 and not eth1
[13:13] <RoyK> omfgitsasalmon: ifconfig alone only shows interfaces in the up status
[13:13] <omfgitsasalmon> RoyK: with the a arg, it shows eth1 and lo
[13:13] <dasjoe> omfgitsasalmon: your /etc/network/interfaces can stay the way it is. Your old card was added to 70-persistent-net.rules and thus blocks the name "eth0". Just delete its line and rename eth1 to eth0 in the other line
[13:14] <RoyK> omfgitsasalmon: then just remove /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and reboot
[13:14] <RoyK> or what dasjoe said
[13:14] <omfgitsasalmon> when I do ifup eth1, it gives an error saying my /etc/network/interface:9 misplaced option
[13:14] <omfgitsasalmon> ok
[13:14] <omfgitsasalmon> let me test this out
[13:14] <omfgitsasalmon> do I remove /etc/network/interfaces too ?
[13:14] <rau> omfgitsasalmon: Please stop abusing your return key, you crude loser.
[13:15] <omfgitsasalmon> oh wait, it's fixed now.
[13:16] <omfgitsasalmon> Found out there's a double line in /etc/network/interface. Now after doing an ifup, the eth1 is up
[13:16] <omfgitsasalmon> I'll still delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules just to be safe though
[13:16] <RoyK> omfgitsasalmon: fix /etc/network/interfaces - don't remove it. for udev to fix the device naming, just remove the rules file and reboot
[13:18] <omfgitsasalmon> RoyK: Yes, I fixed the interfaces file
[13:18] <omfgitsasalmon> and deleted the rules file
[15:16] <samba35> my  ubuntu server 12.04 on vmware esxi has some problem and i want to repair with reinstall how i should reinstall
[15:22] <RoyK> samba35: what problem?
[15:22] <RoyK> !ask | samba35
[15:23] <Patrickdk> I guess his esxi doesn't allow him to mount a cdrom file and boot from it
[15:23] <samba35> i mess with dpkg while repair cache ( run rm )
[15:24] <RoyK> Patrickdk: it does
[15:24] <RoyK> Patrickdk: oh - no - not a file on a cdrom - that probably won't work
[19:49] <phunyguy> hello
[19:49] <phunyguy> hi
[19:49] <phunyguy> test
[19:49] <phunyguy> 1
[19:49]  * rau raises an eyebrow at phunyguy.
[19:49] <phunyguy> 2
[19:52] <lordievader> phunyguy: Nice one. Thank you.
[19:52] <phunyguy> :)
[19:52] <phunyguy> saw it in another channel
[19:53] <lordievader> phunyguy: He had offensive behaviour all day in multiple channels.
[19:53] <phunyguy> it was being a nuisance in #owncloud, and a whois revealed it was in here.
[19:53] <phunyguy> so I tested it


[00:02] <Bashing-om> well. copied your full text http://paste.openstack.org/raw/jDAOBl6Wo3VLOJ87wu4r/ back into the wiki .
[00:04] <krytarik> Can already drop the "work in progress" too then fwiw.
[00:04] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Will drop .. as we are soooo close :)
[00:07] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Ask or find and tutorials: https://ubuntuforums.org/  ?
[00:08] <krytarik> Also, the space in "font-size: 0.9em;" at the top annoys me a little for consistency, as I've just noticed it earlier - if you would like.. :)  (Would have to do the same on the template too later, but you were going to add instructions on the summary generation anyway, weren't you?..)
[00:09] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Several things to do with the template yes .
[00:10] <krytarik> The forums isn't really about tutorials though - in fact they are used since forever to be moved to a specific subforum for it.
[00:11] <Bashing-om> krytarik: " margin: 0 0 1em 1em;" remove that space too after margin ?
[00:12] <krytarik> No, I've decided it's fine there since there is more than one.. :P
[00:13] <krytarik> (So dropping the one in front would make it look odd.)
[00:13] <Bashing-om> krytarik: You the man :P
[00:21] <Bashing-om> ubuntu support: https://ubuntuforums.org/
[00:29] <Wild_Man> For all official Ubuntu flavors you can find support at https://ubuntuforums.org/
[00:30] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: ^ Great . I Buy that one :)
[00:31] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, It is good but it is up to krytarik
[00:31] <krytarik> Well, there are also other subforums.. :3
[00:31] <Bashing-om> lol - oh so true !
[00:33] <Wild_Man> Yes, but they are not used much and people usually get more help if they use the forum of the distro
[00:35] <Bashing-om> If we said debian there, Cononical might come back and hammer us .
[00:36] <krytarik> "Find more Ubuntu support at: ..."
[00:37] <Wild_Man> we do not cater to other distros on the forum just like we do not write about them on the newsletter, so they are just minor imo, and he do not have to be precise
[00:37] <Wild_Man> krytarik, what concerns me about that is new people might think the forum is only for ubuntu and not xubuntu and all the others
[00:38] <krytarik> "Ask Xubuntu" :D
[00:39] <Bashing-om> 'buntu(s)
[00:40] <Unit193> Use regex.
[00:40] <krytarik> !
[00:42] <Wild_Man> I am not going to lose sleep over it, whatever you decide will work
[00:42] <Bashing-om> yer friendly neighborhood coder would have to craft us up a handy regex :P
[00:43] <Bashing-om> "Find more 'buntu(s) support at: ..."
[01:11] <krytarik> Bashing-om, Wild_Man: Please force-update your local UWN repo again - some bits on the Python 3 support layer I've missed.
[01:11] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Updating.
[01:12] <Wild_Man> ok
[01:35] <krytarik> Bashing-om: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue526?action=diff&rev1=11&rev2=12 - please no, that just looks crappy.  Also, looks like you still didn't pull all my fixes..
[01:36] <Unit193> 'For additional resources of support for Ubuntu and it's flavors..."
[01:36] <Bashing-om> krytarik: I pulled the last that I was aware of .
[01:38] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Last was http://paste.openstack.org/raw/jDAOBl6Wo3VLOJ87wu4r/ . Is there a different one I should have pasteed .
[01:41] <krytarik> Well, you might have pasted it, but you certainly didn't save it.  Going for another round of pastes here.
[01:41] <Bashing-om> Unit193: And we have a winner :)
[01:42] <krytarik> And I would say we sort out the referer wording for the next issue.
[01:46] <krytarik> Bashing-om: Full text (for copy-pasting..): http://paste.openstack.org/raw/a8oTgkDDK3WNUXLFgPjK/ , diff (you'll notice it's almost the same..): http://paste.openstack.org/show/a8oTgkDDK3WNUXLFgPjK/
[01:47] <krytarik> Yes, you'll do, because this is the diff..: http://paste.openstack.org/show/44cRMwmedtGOTOA0R3NE/
[01:58] <Bashing-om> krytarik: So boiks down that "http://paste.openstack.org/raw/a8oTgkDDK3WNUXLFgPjK/" is what is to replace current wiki page ?
[01:58] <Bashing-om> boils*
[01:59] <krytarik> I just got a grande idea!..  Since it's all Ubuntu related anyway, we just write "Find more support at: ..." :P
[01:59] <krytarik> And yes please.
[02:00] <Bashing-om> that will work grandly also .
[02:00] <Bashing-om> doing the pastie thingy again :)
[02:01] <krytarik> And please also save this time.. >_>
[02:03] <krytarik> And if everybody agrees that my last suggestion isn't an exceptionally stupid idea, then also feel free to add it for this issue already.
[02:03] <Wild_Man> krytarik, that works!
[02:04] <krytarik> Good, no clarity issues anymore, because there is none. :D
[02:05] <Bashing-om> krytarik: and done . ( and checked that it is saved ) .
[02:10] <krytarik> Ok, grande sauce.
[02:27] <Bashing-om> Issue 526 now ready for bed ?
[02:34] <krytarik> Yes, but as per usual, only tomorrow.
[02:37] <Bashing-om> Good :) .. closing UWN out for the naunce .
[04:32] <Bashing-om> \o all - laters
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[20:49] <Wild_Man> krytarik, hello is it ready for me to publish to the forum, M/L and Social Media?
[20:50] <krytarik> Not yet, some changes to the wiki page incoming right now.
[20:50] <krytarik> And hello! :)
[20:50] <Wild_Man> Okay, thanks
[21:12] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Changes are complete at this time . awaiting krytarik to begin the publishing process .
[21:14] <Wild_Man> I can do mine now?
[21:14] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om,
[21:17] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I know of no reason why you can not begin the publishment . I be the gofer though .. not my call :D
[21:18] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I am going to start, thanks!
[21:21] <Wild_Man> krytarik I received this error when running the publishing script but it appears to be for the fridge so I can still publish what it produced correct?
[21:21] <Wild_Man> the error is "Character in 'H' format wrapped in unpack at fridge/publish-uwn-fridge.pl line 77.'
[21:24] <Wild_Man> I am going to eat real quick while I wait for your reply
[21:26] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: krytarik is not on at this time :(
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[21:42] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I see that now, I am going on then
[21:42] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: :) .
[22:03] <Wild_Man> Done!
[22:04] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Wait a bit to start the 526 issue cleanup / 527 preps ?
[22:06] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Here in a bit I am going back to mowing lawn follage :(
[22:07] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, yes I would hold off for a bit
[22:07] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: K .. wait seems reasonable .
[22:08] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, have you started the 20 through 24 on the editing polices? I just did two of them
[22:09] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: No --- that was in my question for preping for 527 .. I be in a wait mode now :)
[22:10] <Wild_Man> I will do the wiki cleanup
[22:20] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I think I got the wiki cleaned up, I am also going to be away, I can not publish to the fridge or goolge+ so nothing I can do for now
[22:29] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: K, I too do not know what the fault with "H" might be . We wait for our leader :)
[22:31] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I am done with all my publishing, I do not think it effected what I published
[22:31] <Wild_Man> I added 1falen to the gdoc and am now trying to get him set to edit wiki's before I leave
[22:32] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Outstanding ! .. we can use all the help we can get :)
[22:41] <Wild_Man> Yes good indeed Bashing-om!
[22:42] <Wild_Man> After tomorrow I am going to be out of town until Friday night I have to go to Dallas for my daughters 4 year degree graduation, she is graduating with honors at the very top of her class
[22:42] <Wild_Man> then going straight into nurse practioners program, masters level
[22:42] <Wild_Man> hello onefallen
[22:43] <onefallen> Hi Wild_MAn
[22:43] <Wild_Man> I am going to pm you real quick onefallen
[22:44] <onefallen> I recived your Email and the news letter ;)
[22:44] <Wild_Man> cool
[22:45] <Wild_Man> The last hour a I been busy, trying to be more productive because I have less time at the moment
[22:46] <Wild_Man> do you see the message I sent you on here onefallen ?
[23:00] <Wild_Man> onefallen, you here?
[23:04] <onefallen> here i am my wife was bending my ear LOL
[23:04] <Wild_Man> yo should be able to log into the wikis now, you have been added to the team
[23:05] <Wild_Man> https://launchpad.net/~1fallen
[23:05] <onefallen> Coooool Thanks for the link to LP also
[23:05] <Wild_Man> It helps to know the right people
[23:05] <Wild_Man> your welcome!
[23:05] <onefallen> I know Right??
[23:06] <Wild_Man> yep
[23:06] <Wild_Man> A year ago we would have been out of luck
[23:13] <Wild_Man> I have to go to the store and run a couple of errands I will be back later onefallen and Bashing-om, I guess when you get back Bashing-om you can clear the gdoc for the next issue if you want too.
[23:19] <onefallen> see you soon then