[10:41] <Gallomimia> you can probably make it larger, but so can fullscreen in a player
[10:42] <humbag> Gallomimia: do you mean to start a detached screen? should be -d -m
[10:42] <Gallomimia> i forget what -A does, but -S names your screen
[10:42] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00 it has made 2 blank file in /tmp
[10:42] <Gallomimia> and... does the order matter at all?
[10:43] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: http://pastebin.com/4PewrZz8
[10:44] <hexacode> is it me or is debian.org down???
[10:44] <Gallomimia> hexacode: wfm
[10:44] <FuzzyThor> Just you
[10:45] <hexacode> i mean wiki.debian.org
[10:45] <hexacode> it just infinitely loads for me
[10:45] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: there's "./home/fuzzyfrontier/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/teamspeak3/ts3server_startscript.sh start" at the begin? there's ONE DOT at beginning?
[10:45] <fidel> still you
[10:46] <fidel> hexacode: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ ;)
[10:46] <FuzzyThor> That works just fine teamspeak is open
[10:46] <hexacode> lol
[10:46] <ohoot> Does the video format has anything to do with the video Quality ????
[10:46] <DrPc> MSG <Gallomimia> <12.04 stable>
[10:46] <FuzzyThor> but ok
[10:46] <Gallomimia> ohoot no not really
[10:46] <Gallomimia> DrPc the command you're looking for is "do-release-upgrade"
[10:47] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: no, there must be no ./, it must be absolute path
[10:48] <Gallomimia> shouldn't be a dot at all in that path. most people's home is in /
[10:48] <humbag> Gallomimia: sorry you're right the order does not matter
[10:48] <Gallomimia> well, .local/ nevermind. shouldn't start with a dot
[10:49] <Gallomimia> humbag: someone else wrote the script for me and i've been copying it ever since
[10:50] <Gallomimia> so i'm glad to learn more, i've taken occasion to look up the reasons for the different options. don't always remember them
[10:50] <Gallomimia> as for the rc.local they're talking about. i'm lost. what's that for?
[10:51] <FuzzyThor> Ok its absolute
[10:51] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: rebooting
[10:52] <DrPc> private /msg <Gallomina>
[10:52] <DrPc> private /msg Gallomina
[10:52] <DrPc> thank so much
[10:52] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: Well the log files are still blank but my ts3 server is up and running
[10:53] <DrPc> Gallomimia: thank so much
[10:53] <Gallomimia> number one drpc it's rude to randomly message people in private. hopefully we can talk where everyone can see the solution. number 2, you spelled my name wrong, use !tab. and number three, to message someone it's just /msg someone message
[10:53] <Gallomimia> you're welcome
[10:53] <Gallomimia> !tab
[10:53] <fyksen_> .
[10:54] <humbag> Gallomimia: it's legacy boot scripting, there's /etc/rc[1-6].d for the run-levels and /etc/rc.local for extras. now ubuntu use upstart jobs and the service command
[10:55] <Gallomimia> oh that stuff. yeah i've tried some of that
[10:55] <bjorn96> can i install unity web player on ubuntu?
[10:55] <DrPc> Gallomimia: sorry , i want to try open private box with command .
[10:55] <Gallomimia> isn't it switching to.... systemd ??
[10:56] <Gallomimia> DrPc: that's sometimes /query name
[10:56] <humbag> dunno Gallomimia
[10:57] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: is that rbmod show up a gui?
[10:57] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: There is no gui for it. It connect to my teamspeak server
[10:59] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: it connect inside script or must connect via screen -S option?
[11:00] <FuzzyThor> I need to be in an open session to work
[11:00] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: I cann't do much if there no output at all :(
[11:00] <FuzzyThor> It
[11:00] <FuzzyThor> There is a script to make it autostart but it does not work for me i found it but
[11:01] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: http://pastebin.com/6NUULTqM
[11:01] <Gallomimia> pretty sure the mod connects to the ts server via sockets
[11:02] <FuzzyThor> Stanley00: but when i try to run the autostart.sh http://pastebin.com/P89xajX1
[11:02] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: Pastebin.com is under heavy load right now :(
[11:03] <FuzzyThor> oh
[11:04] <FuzzyThor> http://tny.cz/37e13d25
[11:04] <FuzzyThor> alternative
[11:05] <FuzzyThor> http://tny.cz/424010b9
[11:05] <holden87> hi guys. Could anyone help me with editing the .css in gnome-shell? What i want to achieve is to have liberation sans narrow condensed in gnome shell, but it wont work.
[11:05] <FuzzyThor> so the first is the script the second is my end result
[11:06] <holden87> i deleted cantarell, and it worked, but don't know in which package are liberation sans narrow condensed fonts
[11:16] <bjorn96> can i get some help?
[11:16] <Trollmaster> aboot?
[11:16] <bjorn96> do u know empathy?
[11:16] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: I don't know, but look like that mod need screen to connect to socket
[11:17] <FuzzyThor> Yea once the terminal is closed the mod stops working
[11:17] <FuzzyThor> I can manually start it
[11:18] <FuzzyThor> jst fine
[11:18] <FuzzyThor> but when ever i reboot my syste, I have to open like a crap load of screens to run everything i want but
[11:19] <FuzzyThor> now that rc.local will work for some things its not as bad
[11:20] <fosser_josh1> is WMI client available for ubuntu? I tried aptitude wmi-client command. seems that package is not available. i got error "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "wmi-client"
[11:21] <bjorn96> is it anyone that uses empathy here?
[11:22] <x1> Hi how do I take i screenshot of a web page?
[11:22] <Rory> bjorn96: Probably, since it's the default chat program
[11:22] <Rory> x1: prntscrn
[11:23] <x1> yes but some of the web page is off screen
[11:23] <Rory> x1: If you want the whole page and it doesn't fit on the screen, there are extensions for various browsers. Try searching online for "Firefox webpage screenshot" or "chrome webpage screenshot" to find them in their respective addon repositories
[11:23] <x1> is there a way of doing without an addon
[11:24] <x1> ?
[11:24] <Rory> x1: take a screenshot, save it. Scroll down, take another one. Repeat. Stitch images together in an editor like GIMP
[11:24] <Rory> x1: or http://browsershots.org
[11:24] <bjorn96> ok. how do i add a account at rizon into empathy?
[11:25] <Rory> bjorn96: " sudo apt-get install account-plugin-irc " to install the IRC plugin. Then restart Empathy and add a new IRC account with your rizon info
[11:26] <chemist^> bjorn96, you could just use hexchat or xchat you know...
[11:26] <wiherek> Hi
[11:26] <chemist^> hgi
[11:26] <Rory> chemist^: you could just use weechat you know... let people use what they want
[11:26] <wiherek> I connect to a VPN, where they use hostnames instead of ips
[11:26] <wiherek> the connection is over pptp
[11:27] <Stanley00> FuzzyThor: I need to work now, sorry, I can help you any more :(
[11:27] <wiherek> i have the routes setup correctly, I can connect to the machines
[11:27] <bjorn96> E: could not find the package account-plugin-irc
[11:27] <Rory> bjorn96: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[11:27] <bjorn96> 12.04
[11:27] <FuzzyThor> Its ok i need to get to bet its 3am
[11:27] <wiherek> they provided me a list of DNS servers to resolve the hostnames - where should I add the DNS??
[11:27] <bjorn96> LTS
[11:27] <FuzzyThor> bed*
[11:27] <chemist^> Rory, i did not say he shouldn't use empathy... but wouldn't it be better to use an irc client to connect to irc networks instead of installing plugins in other software?
[11:28] <Rory> bjorn96: Then IRC support is already included, without the need to use an additional plugin
[11:28] <chemist^> just my opinion
[11:28] <Rory> bjorn96: Go to set up a new account of type IRC
[11:28] <bjorn96> rory, ok...
[11:29] <Rory> bjorn96: Put in the rizon server info, and your account info
[11:29] <bjorn96> but i dont have it.
[11:29] <bjorn96> :/
[11:29] <Rory> bjorn96: ...don't have what?
[11:29] <bjorn96> irc.rizon.com?
[11:29] <Rory> I don't know!
[11:29] <Rory> It's your thing, lol
[11:30] <raid1ubuntu> hello ubuntu 14.04 will be LTS again. when i take the daily build of it, will it be compatible/updateable to LTS of it later?
[11:30] <Rory> raid1ubuntu: Yes
[11:30] <raid1ubuntu> is this easily possible with unattended-upgrades?
[11:30] <Rory> raid1ubuntu: On release day, a fully updated system installed from an alpha ought to be identical to a stable iso install
[11:30] <onca> I allowed my machine to update itself and now it boots showing the ubuntu logo then I get a black lifeless sceen
[11:31] <raid1ubuntu> i am using 12.04 LTS right now with unattended upgrades
[11:31] <Rory> onca: Does the issue remain if you select an older version of the kernel from the Grub boot menu?
[11:31] <Rory> raid1ubuntu: No, you won't get it automatically
[11:31] <raid1ubuntu> Rory: ok so its just a apt-get upgrade?
[11:31] <onca> rory I'll check
[11:31] <Rory> raid1ubuntu: Sorry, I misunderstood. You will need to do "sudo do-release upgrade"
[11:31] <Squiggz> he yi have a quick question about getting my second hdd  recognized
[11:31] <Rory> raid1ubuntu: That is the only way to move between Ubuntu versions
[11:32] <raid1ubuntu> Rory: but service-configurations etc will still be the same? or do i have to re-setup everything?
[11:32] <bjorn96> rory, could not get your personal info from the server
[11:32] <Rory> raid1ubuntu: In theory, an upgrade is seamless with no reconfiguration required
[11:32] <Squiggz> if anyone can help
[11:32] <raid1ubuntu> Rory: i havent done this on ubuntu, i did it years ago on a debian (if i remember correct) and a lot of things didn't work after that
[11:32] <Rory> bjorn96: Do you have a rizon account?
[11:33] <bjorn96> yea, bjorn96
[11:33] <Rory> bjorn96: Do you know this is the Ubuntu support channel on Freenode?
[11:33] <raid1ubuntu> ok so i will give it a try
[11:33] <nego> hi friends i have question?
[11:33] <Rory> bjorn96: If you are having problems setting up an account on rizon, you ought to ask their support whatever it is
[11:33] <bjorn96> ok. :/
[11:33] <raid1ubuntu> hopefully i am able to install ubuntu 14 on a raid1 now.. 12.04 did not work
[11:33] <bjorn96> :D
[11:33] <Rory> bjorn96: Can you show me a screenshot of the information you're putting in to the setting up new account?
[11:33] <raid1ubuntu> the install freezed every time i tried
[11:34] <nego> i i cant get ports forwarded
[11:34] <Rory> nego: on your router?
[11:35] <nego> i'm connect with repeater alfa R36
[11:35] <Rory> nego: You've accidentally joined #ubuntu which is the official IRC channel for Ubuntu support. You'll not find your answer here; try your router manual. Or ask in a more general tech support channel like #reddit-sysadmin (be aware adult content is permitted in that channel)
[11:37] <Squiggz> anyone avalible for a quick help on getting my second hdd device recognized
[11:38] <Squiggz> and then alot of help on a usb 3.0 problem
[11:38] <x1> Rory, http://xmodulo.com/2014/02/convert-html-web-page-png-image-linux.html
[11:38] <Rory> !details | Squiggz
[11:39] <Rory> x1: Perfect! That's probably what browsershots uses in the background :)
[11:39] <Squiggz> Rory: ok i have gparted i just dont know what iam doing
[11:39] <Rory> Squiggz: Well, what's the end-goal here?
[11:39] <Squiggz> ubuntu is on my 60gb ssd
[11:39] <Squiggz> and i have a wd hdd 1tb
[11:39] <Squiggz> that i want to save apps and music file etc...
[11:40] <Squiggz> i am reading the help info on it and i just kinda got lost
[11:40] <Squiggz> i got to the download gparted and i found the disk
[11:40] <Squiggz> and it says unallocated so that where i am at now
[11:40] <Rory> Do you want me to walk you through moving your /home/username directory to the second hard drive?
[11:40] <antifa> hi
[11:40] <chemist^> nego, how are you trying to forward ports?
[11:40] <Rory> Squiggz: Do you want to use the entire WD 1tb drive for this purpose?
[11:41] <Squiggz> depends I would like to save specific things like bittorrent, mozilla, and plex on the ssd
[11:41] <antifa> guys how come  when I open nautilus as root I cant acces my network shares ?
[11:41] <Rory> antifa: network shares are saved per-user
[11:41] <Squiggz> but most other things like movies music files and some select apps on the wd 1tb
[11:41] <raid1ubuntu> Rory: thx for your help i will try 14.04 now
[11:41] <antifa> so how can I acces them as root ?
[11:42] <Squiggz> yes i use unbutu only i dont dual boot or anything
[11:42] <Squiggz> ubuntu*
[11:42] <Squiggz> and the wd will be used to save whatever on the drive no booting just saving
[11:42] <Rory> Squiggz: It's a little more complicated to do that, due to the fact that Ubuntu packages install in specific locations
[11:43] <Rory> Squiggz: I'm happy to hold your hand if you want to move, say, *all* your userspace programs and files to the second drive
[11:43] <Squiggz> hmmm ok well, the apps isnt a big deal its a 60gb ssd i think it will be ok
[11:43] <Rory> Squiggz: Take a look in disk usage analyser and see where our space is going
[11:43] <Rory> Chances are it's mostly in /home
[11:43] <chemist^> Squiggz, more than enough for default ubuntu applications
[11:43] <Squiggz> ok then all i really want is the wd 1tb to be for miles music movies and that stuff
[11:44] <chemist^> Squiggz, so then just mount it and use it? ... or do you need to create/format partitions on it?
[11:44] <Squiggz> its all going to the "Tempest"
[11:44] <yacc> Squiggz: well, for that usecase we've got a number of tools, LVM, plus flashcache.
[11:44] <Squiggz> there is a home folder in the disk usage but i havent put anything on it yet
[11:45] <Rory> Squiggz: Can you see what is the largest top-level directory?
[11:45] <Squiggz> its the 6ogb ssd
[11:45] <Rory> Squiggz: Yes but I mean, is it /home, or /usr, or what
[11:46] <Squiggz> the top is tempest (/) then below is /home
[11:46] <Squiggz> thats all i got
[11:46] <PapaSierra> does anyone know who maintains the gearman package for ubuntu?
[11:46] <Rory> Squiggz: Okay that's right. You were confusing me with "tempest" but I guess that's the name of your machine :P
[11:46] <Squiggz> haha yea sorry my bad
[11:46] <onca> I can only seem to get into a terminal, after an upgrade my machine will not load x.. how can I try to repair this?
[11:46] <Rory> Squiggz: It's easiest to do this from a LiveCD or LiveUSB, do you have access to one?
[11:46] <Rory> onca: Does the issue remain if you select an older version of the kernel from the Grub boot menu?
[11:47] <Squiggz> uhhh maybe?
[11:47] <Squiggz> haha i should probably tell you I am extreamly new to linux
[11:47] <Rory> Squiggz: Only if it's to hand. If it's not, no problem
[11:47] <Squiggz> yea all i got right now is gparted
[11:47] <Rory> Squiggz: So you're in gparted now, looking at unallocated space?
[11:47] <Squiggz> and am looking at my unallocated drive
[11:47] <onca> rory I believe so, but I had to edit /boot/default/grub and change the hiddent option to false, but the menu still doesn't show
[11:48] <Squiggz> i built this computer
[11:48] <Rory> onca: Hold shift while your computer is booting until you see the menu
[11:48] <onca> thanks
[11:48] <Rory> Squiggz: awesome, good for you :) Right-click on the unallocated space and select New
[11:48] <Squiggz> and as far as i got was install ubuntu on my ssd
[11:48] <Squiggz> got a no partition found
[11:48] <Squiggz> popup
[11:49] <Rory> Sure you have the correct drive selected from the dropdown in the top-right of gparted?
[11:49] <Rory> And you see one entry in the list, unallocated space?
[11:49] <Squiggz> yup i did the sudo command
[11:49] <Rory> you go to Partition -> New
[11:49] <Squiggz> and found it to be called sbd
[11:49] <Rory> sdb
[11:49] <Squiggz> ok
[11:50] <onca> Rory, the problem does persist
[11:50] <Rory> hard drives are named sda, sdb, sdc etc
[11:50] <Squiggz> yea sdb my bad
[11:50] <Rory> onca: Did you recently install new graphics card drivers?
[11:50] <onca> no but I did an update
[11:50] <onca> and nothing else
[11:51] <onca> I regret my decisiion
[11:51] <Squiggz> the popup tells me to go to device- create new partition , im guessing follow that instruction?
[11:51] <Squiggz> create partition table sorry**
[11:52] <Rory> Yes. Basically when you're done, you want to have one partition, taking up all the available space on the disk (don't worry if there's a couple of mb unallocated at the end)
[11:52] <Rory> Squiggz: Yes, sorry, if it's a brand new drive you will have to create a partition table first
[11:52] <SupaYoshi> Can anyone tell me a list of very well supported low end graphic cards for ubuntu?
[11:52] <SupaYoshi> or give me a list :D
[11:52] <Rory> And you want to format that drive with the "ext4" filesystem
[11:52] <Rory> SupaYoshi: Integrated Intel HD graphics
[11:52] <Rory> SupaYoshi: Integrated AMD graphics
[11:52] <SupaYoshi> I want to upgrade some old XP systems of eldern people to Ubuntu or Elementery OS based on Ubuntu ;)
[11:52] <Squiggz> ok cool i should be able to take it from here for a bit, my other question is way harder ill be back shortly thanks for the help rory!
[11:53] <SupaYoshi> So just Integrated Intel HD graphics is best? :D
[11:53] <Rory> Squiggz: You aren't done... by a long way
[11:53] <SupaYoshi> what about a pc that doesnt have these?
[11:53] <Rory> SupaYoshi: All you've done here is make a partition, it's just sitting there. You need to set up your home directory to be mounted
[11:53] <SupaYoshi> What AMD / NVIDIA cards should i get? :D
[11:53] <Squiggz> yea i figure i get this done first, buttt neverrmind
[11:53] <fakoff> SupaYoshi: depends.. i have nvidia and they did a decent driver for it
[11:53] <SupaYoshi> 8400 gs works... so so on a laptop
[11:53] <SupaYoshi> Nice :P
[11:53] <Rory> SupaYoshi: You'd be hard-pressed to find a laptop without integrated graphics
[11:53] <onca> looks like I am reinstalling
[11:53] <Squiggz> its asking me to select new partition table type
[11:53] <SupaYoshi> Not really :P hehe
[11:54] <Rory> !patience | or4n
[11:54] <SupaYoshi> Im talking about XP hardware :P
[11:54] <SupaYoshi> hehe
[11:54] <Rory> Sorry or4n , the intended recipient ragequit
[11:54] <Rory> Lunchtime now, I'll be back in an hour Squiggz if you still need guidance
[11:54] <Squiggz> rory: and in the drop down ext4 is not an option
[11:55] <pranav> if i use ubuntu variant in a product and sell it. how does this cover ubuntu license ?
[11:55] <Squiggz> ok cool sounds good
[11:55] <Rory> Squiggz: What types are available?
[11:55] <Rory> Squiggz: Bear in mind this is for the new *partition* not the new partition *table*
[11:55] <Rory> Squiggz: for the partition table you can select either of the two types
[11:55] <Squiggz> msdos,aix,amiga
[11:55] <Rory> msdos
[11:55] <Squiggz> ok gotcha
[11:56] <onca> rory can  I rollback an upgrade?
[11:56] <Squiggz> it worked thanks now i just gotta do this partition thing the default looks correct
[11:56] <onca> or do I have to reinstall?
[11:57] <Rory> !patience | onca ask again in a bit, it's a common issue
[12:00] <Squiggz> thanks ROry it worked!!!
[12:00] <Rory> Guys I just ran "source ~/.bash_history" instead of "source ~/.bash_alises" - how screwed am I?
[12:01] <Rory> my Vm just rebooted but I have no idea what it just ran first
[12:05] <yacc> Rory: that depends on the content of your bash history.
[12:08] <pratikl> Hi, is there any utility in Ubuntu to connect to a socket on some <xyz> port number?
[12:08] <iwantoski> pratikl: curl
[12:08] <bs0d> telnet?
[12:09] <nvdpl> Hello everybody.
[12:09] <iwantoski> putty works also
[12:09] <Devil> hi
[12:09] <nvdpl> Is there a quick fix for a "dpkg-statoverride: error: An override for ..." error (other than rebuilding the package) ?
[12:10] <nvdpl> Looks like kernel upgrade in 12.04LTS tries to write the same file (kernel image) (linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic).
[12:10] <pratikl> bs0d Thanks, telnet worked :)
[12:10] <Guest50092> I would like to create a Partition whereby I can move all my important files and then delete my Ubuntu Install and reinstall it again, with the new partition intact with all my important files...can anyone help?
[12:11] <pratikl> iwantoski: Thanks for your inputs as well. I will try those too
[12:11] <Squiggz> guest50092: i just did that let me give you the link
[12:11] <Guest50092> thank you Squiggz
[12:11] <Squiggz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[12:12] <Squiggz> its using gparted its super simple took about 5 minutes after alittle help
[12:13] <Guest50092> Is there no way without Gparted?
[12:13] <snadge> fdisk or parted
[12:13] <Squiggz> probably you'll have to ask a smarter person then me tho lol
[12:16] <Guest50092> I have to use a Live CD to create or resize a partition as Gparted cant do anything while partitions are mounted
[12:18] <snadge> you can get a gparted livecd
[12:18] <fakoff> what`s wrong with fdisk?
[12:18] <snadge> fdisk wont do gpt
[12:19] <diverdude> Hello, when i try to install mediawiki on my ubuntu 13.10 machine i get an error saying: "PHP was compiled without JSON support. You must install the PHP JSON extension". How do i do that?
[12:19] <fakoff> well.. not GUI, but still gives you all you need i believe
[12:19] <fakoff> gparted should do well tho
[12:19] <snadge> sudo apt-get install php5-json
[12:20] <OerHeks> fakoff, not when partitions are mounted, Guest50092 is right
[12:20] <fakoff> oh.. didnt read that far
[12:20] <fakoff> sry
[12:20] <karab44> hello
[12:21] <karab44> I have troubles with recording voice from my desktop. I use audacity
[12:23] <philinux> karab44;~ have you tried sound recorder?
[12:23] <karab44> yes but it says (gnome-sound-recorder:24719): GStreamer-WARNING **: Element 'gconfaudiosource' already has parent
[12:27] <karab44> I don't know what input exactly choose to record my desktop
[12:33] <Guest50092> Which partition choice is best for media storage?
[12:33] <Rory> Guest50092: Do you need to access it from Windows?
[12:34] <yacc> Rory: good one, I'm always forgetting about the Windows users :)
[12:34] <Guest50092> No just Ubuntu or maybe another Linux Distro
[12:34] <Rory> Guest50092: ext4
[12:35] <ruien> Hello. Can anyone assist with some custom repository confusion, or suggest a more appropriate channel? The question is formatted nicely here: http://dpaste.com/1641887/
[12:35] <Guest50092> I want to be able to store my Media securely separate from my OS install that way I can delete and reinstall new OSes without losing my media
[12:35] <fakoff> boot 100Mb, swap twice your ram and the rest ext4
[12:35] <Rory> Guest50092: Just make a new partition, formatted as ext2 or ext3 or ext4, and keep your media there
[12:35] <usr13> Guest50092: I always just use a separate partition for /home/
[12:35] <Rory> fakoff: "swap twice your ram" is only good advice up to about 4GiB of RAM
[12:35] <fakoff> latest distro dont require you to manually create /boot
[12:35] <Guest50092> extended partition?
[12:35] <Guest50092> new extended partition?
[12:36] <Rory> Guest50092: Makes no matter really
[12:36] <usr13> Guest50092: logical partition
[12:36] <fakoff> ext4 is better tho
[12:36] <usr13> Guest50092: Depends on how many you have now
[12:36] <yacc> Rory: and even for 4GB RAM 8GB swap can be quite painful.
[12:36] <fakoff> manages the filesystem faster
[12:37] <fakoff> i have 8Gb ram and run 16Gb swap
[12:37] <Guest50092> and this new partition will not be destroyed if I delete the partition with the OS on it?
[12:37] <fakoff> but i do use it intensely
[12:37] <fakoff> and also use LVM
[12:37] <Rory> Well I have 16GiB RAM, and taking up 32GiB of my 128GiB SSD would be stupid
[12:37] <usr13> Guest50092: Just make a new partition and make the mount point /home/your-user-name/Media   (where Media = the name you really want...it's up to you).
[12:37] <yacc> Rory: filling 8GB straight, sequentially at 100MB/s takes over 80s => so you have an extended trashing (as in the PC spends his time with swapping, and only swapping) before the OOM killer "liberates" the system.
[12:37] <Rory> yacc: Linux doesn't just fill up all available memory and then start frantically writing to swap
[12:38] <fakoff> no, it just moves to swap what you dont use
[12:38] <Rory> yacc: It maintains a copy of data in RAM within the swap partition, so it can swap out if it needs to
[12:38] <fakoff> for later invoking
[12:38] <usr13> Guest50092: When you delete a partition, it is your choice which one(s) to delete and which one(s) you leave.
[12:38] <philinux> SWAP > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[12:39] <fakoff> Rory: i need the big swap
[12:39] <fakoff> so, for a desktop, ye it`s pointless to go over board if you have 4 GB ram
[12:40] <zacarias> Hi. I have a brand new computer (with nothing installed but Linux) which is supposed to have (and has it) 4 GB of RAM. However, the "hardinfo" tells me that it only has 3388 MB. Why is it so? I knowe that in Wndows there is this type of limitation, but does it exist in Linux also? I would like tu upgrade to 8 GB, but it's useless if it only uses 3388 MB.
[12:40] <usr13> Guest50092: When I do an install, I create 3 partitions, one for swap, one for /, and one for /home/.  If I decide to do a fresh install, I reformat all but /home/
[12:40] <Rory> I didn't say you didn't need it, I'm just saying swap space is based on usage requirements, and nowadays "ram x2" isn't actually that good of a rule-of-thumb
[12:40] <Guest50092> looks like I have to resize "/" partition sda1 and then create a new partition using the unallocated space
[12:40] <Rory> Guest50092: Yes, and you will have to do this from a LiveCD as you cannot shrink a partition which is in use
[12:40] <fakoff> watch out for the primary limit tho
[12:40] <usr13> Guest50092: Probably so, (depending on what is on the rest of the drive and what you can do without).
[12:40] <Guest50092> Right I need a live CD
[12:40] <fakoff> no more than
[12:40] <fakoff> 4
[12:41] <Guest50092> which I have thanks
[12:41] <usr13> Guest50092: Yes you do.
[12:41] <Guest50092> because I cant resize with gparted while Sda1 "/" ismounted
[12:41] <yacc> Rory: well, my personal experience is that no swap is bad (you want to stuff that unused stuff there), some cache is okay (really seldom used stuff), but having swap without consideration for how long it takes to feel (aka the 2x rule) leads to situations where you hard reset the box because you don't want to wait minutes if not hours before the thing becomes responsive.
[12:41] <yacc> zacarias: 32 or 64 bit install.
[12:41] <usr13> Guest50092: The install CD has partitioning utility, you'll find it when you boot the Live OS.
[12:41] <bjorn96> can i install unity web player on ubuntu 12.04?
[12:42] <Guest50092> yes thanks you've been a great deal of help
[12:42] <zacarias> yacc: 64 bit (it's an AMD processor)
[12:42] <codfather> A quick question about SPICE support in 14.04 - is it going to be improved over that which was provided with 12.04?
[12:42] <yacc> zacarias: if you have 32bit => some stuff like GPUs need "address space" to memory map. If 64 bit => still the same issue is possible if the driver/hardware cannot handle an aperture beyond the RAM size.
[12:43] <bjorn96> ?
[12:43] <usr13> Guest50092: http://gparted.org/livecd.php  <-- This is what I use.
[12:43] <yacc> zacarias: I meant the OS install => you can install a 32 bit OS fine on 64 bit capable hardware.
[12:43] <Rory> bjorn96: yes
[12:43] <bjorn96> can u tell me how? :D
[12:43] <Guest50092> Im going to use a Live CD OS and use that to resize the partition
[12:43] <Rory> bjorn96: I typed your question into the popular Internet search engine "Google" and found this page http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/how-to-install-ubuntus-new-web-apps-feature
[12:44] <m0rd0> zacarias: If you type 'uname -m' into a terminal window what does it give you?
[12:44] <bjorn96> :D:D
[12:44] <usr13> Guest50092: Ok.  Backup your important data first.
[12:44] <usr13> Guest50092: ... if you have any ...
[12:44] <Guest50092> yes i've stored what I can on my USB
[12:44] <zacarias> yacc: yes, it's a 64 bit installl. How can I solve that?
[12:44] <yacc> zacarias: basically your issue is probably that a part of the 4GB are inaccessible because other stuff is mapped into the address space => with a 64bit OS install your chances are much better that you can map that stuff so that it will not hide RAM.
[12:44] <yacc> zacarias: BIOS options?
[12:44] <karra> hello everyone
[12:45] <fakoff> hi
[12:46] <zacarias> yacc: I don't know. I ignored the BIOS. When I turned the computer on, it asked me for a boot device, I inserted the CD and I installed it
[12:46] <bjorn96> rory, unity web PLAYER
[12:46] <yacc> zacarias: just noticed my shiny laptop has 24GB memory and lost 0.55GB somewhere too => and my BIOS firmware has certainly no options to map that away :(
[12:46] <bjorn96> not app
[12:46] <Rory> bjorn96: Ah my mistake, you mean the game engine thing?
[12:46] <usr13> Guest50092: When you get done, you'll want to create a mount point and a fstab entry for your new partition.
[12:46] <bjorn96> yepp
[12:46] <karra> hello mike
[12:46] <Rory> bjorn96: bjorn96 They only make it for Windows and Mac http://unity3d.com/webplayer/
[12:46] <philinux> codfather;~ you need to ask in #ubuntu+1 or here http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=427
[12:47] <zacarias> yacc: Well, ait least that tells me that if I have a 8 GB I will not be limited to the same 33388 MB...
[12:47] <codfather> ok thanks for the tip
[12:47] <zacarias> yacc: 3388 MB, I mean
[12:47] <yacc> Oh, that's almost a certainity.
[12:48] <yacc> And technically speaking in my case I don't overly care.
[12:48] <Guest50092> ok usr13
[12:49] <cy1on> I was looking for Lightread on the Software Center, why isn't it there anymore?
[12:49] <yacc> zacarias: I'm still more pissed that there is no secondary uses for DDR3L SODIMMs :(
[12:50] <gde33> sellem
[12:51] <yacc> zacarias: if I had any use (e.g. a RAMdisc for the desktop or something similar stupid), I'd have 32GB RAM, but I'm way to cheap to throw away the builtin 2x4GB DIMMs :(
[12:51] <Guest50092> what mount point would you suggest for a Media Storage Partition?
[12:51] <Rory> Guest50092: Completely up to you
[12:52] <Guest50092> ok
[12:52] <Rory> Guest50092: I have my external drive mounted under /mnt/external
[12:52] <Guest50092> ok
[12:52] <gde33> is there a wubi channel some place?
[12:52] <Rory> !wubi
[12:52] <bjorn96> rory: doesent look like its possible
[12:52] <Rory> gde33: That would be here, but nobody here will recommend you use it
[12:53] <gde33> I figured out my issue, it is that the ram disk may take a long time to start up but if you interupt it it wont work anymore
[12:53] <karab44> ok solved
[12:53] <philinux> cy1on;~ last version was for 12.10 maybe development stopped https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/lightread/
[12:53] <usr13> Guest50092: I suggest just putting it in /home/
[12:54] <usr13> Guest50092: What is your user name on the system?
[12:55] <Rory> Guest50092: Could just mount it as /home/devil/media (or whatever your username is)
[12:55] <cy1on> philinux: sad, it seems like an awesome rss app
[12:55] <usr13> Guest50092: Something like /home/your-user/Media   or /home/your-user/data   So the command will be mkdir Media
[12:55] <philinux> cy1on;~ there is a ppa http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-lightread-1-2-2-on-ubuntu-13-04-12-10-12-04-linux-mint-15-14-13-and-elementary-os-0-2-luna/
[12:56] <usr13> Guest50092: What did you decide on?  (We'll help you with the fstab entry.)
[12:57] <philinux> cy1on;~ you could always contact the ppa maintainer https://launchpad.net/~cooperjona/+archive/lightread
[12:57] <Guest50092> im currently preparing a Live CD
[12:58] <fakoff> i suggest unetbootin-windows-585 to make an ubuntu disk
[12:59] <Rory> I suggest the disk creation utility which is included with Ubuntu
[12:59] <Rory> It's easier than scouring sourcefourge for a specific unetbootin binary version
[12:59] <fakoff> i have one, and works awesome for me
[12:59] <Rory> Yes, unetbootin works, they all work
[13:00] <fakoff> not all of them tho
[13:00] <Rory> But Startup Disk Creator is already included
[13:00] <fakoff> i had quite a few that failed to install/run it
[13:00] <fakoff> after the GRUB
[13:00] <cy1on> philinux: yes, I've contacted him now
[13:01] <philinux> cy1on;~ maybe he got too busy to build it for 13.10
[13:07] <cy1on> philinux: Aha, didn't know that he had to build for every ubuntu release specifically
[13:07] <fakoff> btw i hear Mint linux is also cool, graphically
[13:07] <cy1on> philinux: perhaps that's why then
[13:08] <fakoff> and i`m guessing it might have the Distro that debian has
[13:08] <fakoff> but idk for sure
[13:08] <fakoff> it does look catchy
[13:08] <fakoff> windowsy like
[13:08] <mike__> fakoff: used it, thought it was okay, didn't seem to have much to it other than look and feel
[13:08] <mike__> responsive
[13:08] <Rory> You can try adding the sources.list line for the latest supported version
[13:08] <fakoff> but i`m kinda fond of ubuntu/debian
[13:09] <Rory> Try to install it, and if you get errors don't continue. If you don't get errors, hooray
[13:09] <fakoff> yeah i kinda felt the same way after i read a few reviews
[13:09] <fakoff> so i just went for the closest thing to debian i know
[13:09] <raid1ubuntu> daftykins: Are you there? i managed to solve my freezing raid1 problems. I followed your suggestions to use ubuntu 14.04 which does not freeze instead of 12.04. after partioning
[13:10] <raid1ubuntu> is there already a release-date for 14.04 LTS set?
[13:10] <fakoff> 14,04 is stable release?
[13:11] <OerHeks> fakoff, no, not untill release
[13:11] <llutz> raid1ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[13:12] <OerHeks> 2 months to go
[13:12] <fakoff> so it will be stable when released?
[13:12] <llutz> !14.04 | raid1ubuntu
[13:12] <fakoff> cuz i dont want to build kernels again
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[13:13] <cy1on> Kick?
[13:13] <mike__> rileyvrh: seem to have a stuck j key
[13:14] <philinux> or brain
[13:14] <mike__> or cat
[13:14] <fakoff> fk me.. i need to run and fix my router again.. 3rd time today
[13:14] <philinux> yep lol
[13:14] <fakoff> cheap bastsat
[13:14] <fakoff> bastard
[13:14] <fakoff> later guys
[13:16] <antifa> guys here is my problem, I have a samba share troug a router to my xp pc, and  Iwant to acces the program files folder of xp from my ubuntu laptop, but it tells me that I do not have permision to acces that file
[13:18] <philinux> antifa;~ good help here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba
[13:18] <Munster> G'Day
[13:18] <RainbowGodDamnDa> Morning.
[13:19] <RainbowGDMNDash> There we go
[13:20] <Munster> heh
[13:21] <RainbowGDMNDash> So I got a problem. My win 8.1 laptop has 13.10 installed on vmware.  Like go to terminal, enter ifconfig then do sudo dhclient eth0.
[13:23] <RainbowGDMNDash> For some reason the terminal hangs on that last command, and would have to kill the terminal.
[13:23] <RainbowGDMNDash> I also tried resetting the vm network adapters from bridged to NAT and vice versa
[13:23] <usr13> How's it going with GUest50092?  (I've been offline for about 10 minutes.)
[13:24] <OerHeks> RainbowGDMNDash, sounds like an VM issue or win8
[13:24] <jcadduono> Hi my USB sound device (DacPort LX) is showing up as USB root hub 1.1 in USB 2.0 slots and root hub 2.0 in USB 3.0 slots and does that ever not make sense
[13:24] <geirha> RainbowGDMNDash: sounds like the virtual dhcp server is virtually broken
[13:24] <Dice-Man> hello people, i have installed the flashplugin-installer through sudo apt-get install but it seems that it doesn't have any effect on firefox even if i go on youtube i a message telling me to update my flash version
[13:24] <RainbowGDMNDash> I think it might be 8.1 itself because it was working before I updated it.
[13:24] <Dice-Man> *i have a message
[13:25] <usr13> Dice-Man: Restart firefox
[13:25] <RainbowGDMNDash> I've thought the virtual hdd of that ubuntu installed was corrupted, so I installed it on a new vm through vmware but no dice.
[13:25] <Guest50092> im backing up my important files
[13:26] <raid1ubuntu> ubottu: thx
[13:26] <raid1ubuntu> llutz: thx
[13:26] <Guest50092> and creating a bit more space for that partition
[13:26] <Guest50092> so I dont have to do any resizing later on
[13:26] <Dice-Man> usr13: it doesn't work :(
[13:27] <usr13> Dice-Man: What happens when you try?
[13:27] <raid1ubuntu> i will add "Do a "sudo do-release upgrade" after 17.4.2014 in my welcome message ;)
[13:28] <usr13> Dice-Man: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[13:28] <Squiggz> Tj-: it user Chisholm
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: please use http://pastie.org to host the text (or similar)
[13:28] <Squiggz> u avalible to help me with the 3.0 issue?
[13:29] <lebafar> usr13, Package adobe-flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[13:29] <lebafar> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[13:29] <lebafar> is only available from another source
[13:29] <usr13> Guest50092: Very good.  Let us know what you end up with.
[13:29] <jcadduono> Also my dmesg is getting is impossible to read because kernel saying delay estimated actual
[13:30] <Guest50092> I will and thanks logging off
[13:30] <Dice-Man> ActionParsnip: ok
[13:30] <Guest50092> exit
[13:30] <usr13> lebafar: Oh yea, I think you have to enable an adobe source
[13:31] <usr13> lebafar: ... but I thought that's what installing flashplugin-installer did....
[13:32] <RainbowGDDMNDash> :(
[13:32] <lebafar> usr13, what do you mean?
[13:32] <RainbowGDDMNDash> I'm sure it's win 8.1
[13:33] <usr13> lebafar: Oh, but I'm wrong.   It causes the Adobe Flash Player plugin to be downloaded from "Canonical partner archive" (I don't know if that is the same or  ... maybe someone else can tell us)
[13:33] <RainbowGDDMNDash> does 8.1 have a "run in" compatiblity option like 7?
[13:33] <usr13> lebafar: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/flashplugin-installer
[13:33] <lebafar> usr13, yes. oh ok..
[13:34] <llutz> RainbowGDDMNDash: you already read the topic of this channel?
[13:34] <usr13> lebafar: Yea, I guess that's the same thing...
[13:35] <usr13> RainbowGDDMNDash:  /topic
[13:35] <lebafar> usr13, but how to install it?
[13:35] <Dice-Man> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/8752044
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> RainbowGDDMNDash: windows in supported in ##windows   not here
[13:35] <usr13> lebafar: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: could remove the package then enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin package
[13:36] <Squiggz> hey can anyone help for some reason all my usb 2.0 ports work but not my 3.0 ports
[13:36] <lebafar> usr13, when I try it, that throws me an message.
[13:36] <usr13> lebafar: So, just go to http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ Download and install it from there.
[13:37] <lebafar> usr13, from there is much more complicated.
[13:37] <lebafar> it is
[13:37] <usr13> How so?
[13:37] <usr13> lebafar: you just chose "APT for Ubuntu 10.04+"
[13:37] <Dice-Man> ActionParsnip: the partner repo ?
[13:38] <lebafar> usr13, there is a few different file download possibilities and after downloading it there are a few routines we had to follow in order to install it
[13:38] <usr13> lebafar: DOes it just download the file?
[13:39] <balder> what is the best way to reload /etc/network/interfaces as /etc/init.d/networking is depricated?
[13:39] <raid1ubuntu> ubuntu-server14.04-setup  failed to install GRUB on /dev/md126 .. -> shit is it possible to install grub onto a raid1 ?
[13:39] <OerHeks> !14.04 | raid1ubuntu
[13:40] <raid1ubuntu> OerHeks: ?
[13:40] <llutz> balder: sudo ifdown <iface> && sudo ifup <iface>
[13:40] <OerHeks> balder, sudo service networking restart
[13:40] <llutz> ^ is deprecated
[13:40] <lebafar> usr13, not really. I may have something wrong here.
[13:41] <usr13> lebafar: Ok, well you can just do it through the package manager.
[13:42] <llutz> balder: you might use networking stop, then start instead of restart too
[13:42] <balder> llutz: trying to do this over and ssh connection.  when i stop or down the interface i loose connection so the ifup never runs (ithink just testing)
[13:43] <lebafar> usr13, after I choose the APT for ubuntu 10.04+ it opens a External Protocol Request window and if I click Launch Application it opens Ubuntu Software Center with the following message : Not found : There isn’t a software package called “adobe-flashplugin” in your current software sources
[13:43] <balder> ignore me ifdown  && ifup works over ssh.  thanks
[13:43] <lebafar> usr13, package manager has a Flash plugin but it says it is for firefox mozilla and I use also chromium here.
[13:44] <philinux> balder;~  info here http://askubuntu.com/questions/58404/how-to-start-and-stop-a-service
[13:44] <usr13> lebafar: So install adobe-flashplugin
[13:45] <usr13> it's a circular motion ;0
[13:45] <llutz> balder: in most cases, ssh wouldn't even "see" the network outage, so it should work in most cases without losing the connection. but i wouldn't bet on it, though
[13:46] <lebafar> usr13, got the message : no item match "adobe-flashplugin"
[13:46] <balder> llutz: yes it looks like it works, down't need to be bullet proof so it should be fine.  i just assumed.... and there was my problem ;)
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: yes, the partner repo
[13:48] <usr13> lebafar: I dono  Maybe someone else can help you.  Mine works, that's all I know.  (But I just use firefox... but... it works...)
[13:48] <jcadduono> is it safe to install the trusty kernels from kernel.ubuntu.com onto saucy? the current 3.11 kernel is very buggy for me
[13:48] <OerHeks> lebafar, flashplugin-installer is for firefox and chromium too
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> jcadduono: yes but they will not be supported here. They will install but may cause issues
[13:49] <jcadduono> ActionParsnip: couldn't be worse than what I've got now :(
[13:49] <Dice-Man> ActionParsnip: it works ! thank you
[13:50] <Munster> lebafar, look for flashplugin-installer
[13:50] <lebafar> OerHeks, ok, got it. Thank you.
[13:51] <lebafar> Munster, I got it. thank you.
[13:51] <lebafar> usr13, thank you!
[13:51] <Munster> lebafar, yeah , a bit slow :)
[13:52] <lebafar> Munster, what do you mean?
[13:52] <Munster> i was a bit slow
[13:52] <lebafar> Munster, just fine. ;)
[13:54] <Valduare> hi all - I have a macbook pro 7.1 and the open source graphics drivers crash after few seconds, and proprietary drivers boot to black screen... any ideas?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: cool huh
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: if you switch to Chrome, it comes with Flash by default so no need for extra packages
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: its a single line output so no need to pastebin
[13:58] <Valduare> I'm not booted up to ubuntu atm
[13:58] <Valduare> I think next I'm going to try nomodeset
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: does it use that switching GPU garbage?
[13:59] <Valduare> i have a macbook pro 7.1 with a NVIDIA GeForce 320M 256 MB
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: what CPU model does it have?
[13:59] <OerHeks> !netsplit
[14:00] <Valduare> 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
[14:01] <Valduare> brb
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: makes things a bit nicer
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: install the nvidia-currnt package then run:  sudo nvidia-xconfg
[14:02] <whitehat> hello group.I'm having problems with mount priority on ubuntu 13.10.  some drives are mounted out of order as listed in fstab.  all drives are referenced with UUIDs in fstab.  ideas?
[14:03] <Valduare> On phone now so I can work on laptop
[14:03] <gptandefi> when i reboot my laptop, it shows efdisk read error,and then show me the grub. what's the error.
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: install the nvidia-currnt package then run:  sudo nvidia-xconfg
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: then reboot
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Valduare: or did you try the nvidia-xconfig command already?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> gptandefi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2188347
[14:16] <^Mike> My bluetooth hardware is detected and powered up, but the bluetooth control panel says it is powered off. Flicking the switch to "on" doesn't do anything. What do? http://askubuntu.com/questions/423668/cant-control-bluetooth-in-saucy
[14:19] <lebafar> I am sharing a folder through my network and I can access it as guest (couldn't figure how to access with an account) and it arrives as Owner: nobody with a lock. How do I fix it to allow me to open this file?
[14:19] <gptandefi> this page I have read before, but it didn't help me.
[14:20] <negev> hi, i just got an xps-13 with ubuntu.  is it possible to encrypt the root volume without nuking it first?
[14:21] <thewolf> goodmorning, sorry for my english... it's possible whit this program to create chat point to point whit an specific other user (private)
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> lebafar: chown the file to your user
[14:21] <lebafar> ActionParsnip, there is no way to make it automatically?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> lebafar: what OS is the server and what OS is the client?
[14:22] <OerHeks> negev no, you need to select encrypted disk while installing, no fix aftewrwards AFAIK
[14:22] <lebafar> ActionParsnip, server is Ubuntu 13 and client is Mac/Win mostly.
[14:22] <BlackDex> hello there, "Ubuntu One" seems to be not working anymore on my desktop
[14:23] <BlackDex> 13.10
[14:23] <BlackDex> it doesn't connect
[14:23] <TJ-> thewolf: By default Internet *relay* chat relays everyone's conversations (in channels or person-to-person) via the server(s). There is an extension called Direct Client Connection (DCC) which provides direct person-to-person connections, but it requires friendly firewalls at both ends where port/network address translation is in use.
[14:23] <BlackDex> i can login on the website
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> lebafar: if you run:   sudo smbpasswd -a $USER    you can set a password for Samba for your user, then authenticate as that when you connect
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> lebafar: by 'Ubuntu 13' I'm guessing you mean 13.10. 'Ubuntu 13' isn't a thing
[14:25] <lebafar> ActionParsnip, yes, 13.10.
[14:25] <negev> OerHeks: ok thanks
[14:28] <lebafar> ActionParsnip, still not accessing with a user other then guest.
[14:29] <lebafar> ActionParsnip, is there a way to verify if this user/pass is valid?
[14:35] <Smit-Tay> .
[14:35] <Smit-Tay> Is there a reason my Ubuntu server is running rhnsd -
[14:35] <Smit-Tay> ?
[14:36] <Smit-Tay> Is it doing anything sensible ?  How does it sync against a totally different packaging system, unless I configure it to do so ?
[14:37] <llutz> Smit-Tay: if you have to ask that and really don't know why it runs at all, remove it
[14:37] <Smit-Tay> It seems it was installed by default when I build the server, but I've only just noticed it
[14:37] <Smit-Tay> Why would it be included in a default Ubuntu install
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> Smit-Tay: it's not included in a default ubuntu install.
[14:40] <hitsujiTMO> Smit-Tay: did you install apt-transport-spacewalk?
[14:41] <Xuisce> hi all
[14:44] <Smit-Tay> I didn't install it, and I built the machine. Actually four separate machines. They alll end up running it.  I have only installed three non-standard Ubuntu server packages.  jenkins-slave - which doesn't include it, and openjdk-7-jre-headless, and  build-essentials.  None of those include it.
[14:45] <OerHeks> Smit-Tay, odd, red hat update agent is not standard in ubuntu server
[14:45] <Smit-Tay> Exactly
[14:45] <Smit-Tay> I'm wondering how it got there
[14:45] <OerHeks> Smit-Tay, we do too, so tell us what you did?
[14:46] <Smit-Tay> Already did
[14:46] <kogo> Hi i am trying to set up a dhcp3 server but i keep getting this " Can't create PID file /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid: Permission denied. ^C root@ubuntu:~# /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start   * Starting DHCP server dhcpd3                                                   * check syslog for diagnostics
[14:46] <Smit-Tay> Built a x86_64 12.04 LTS server from the iso image at Ubuntu.com.  Install those three packages
[14:46] <Smit-Tay> that's it
[14:47] <kogo> please help !!
[14:47] <Smit-Tay> start it with sudo
 me ??
[14:47] <Smit-Tay> yes, you
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> Smit-Tay: rhnsd isn't even in the 12.04 repo so something really fishy going on with what you're telling us
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> Smit-Tay: can you again tell us exactly what you did, and what iso you used
[14:49] <mijn> hi
[14:50] <mijn> is it possible to use two different gpus (AMD/NVIDIA) at the same time? using R600g + nvidia drivers?
[14:50] <kogo>  <Smit-Tay> i did this    sudo  dhcpd3 -cf /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid wlan1  but still the same problem ????
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> mijn: it should be. may have trouble configuring xorg for it tho
[14:51] <kogo> ???
[14:51] <sgo11> hi, if I found more than one PPA which has the package that I want to install in launchpad.net, which one should I choose? Are there something in launchpad like the "Star" in github? thanks.
[14:52] <mijn> hitsujiTMO: couldn't i simply run two xorgs then in that case?
[14:52] <kogo> help i m still getting this error  Can't create PID file /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid: Permission denied. ^C root@ubuntu:~# /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start   * Starting DHCP server dhcpd3                                                   * check syslog for diagnostics
[14:53] <TJ-> kogo: prefix the command with "sudo "
[14:53] <kogo> help please ???
[14:53] <mijn> TJ-: he is already root
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> mijn: running 2 xorgs is silly. its just that both gpus will require an xorg.conf and generate them. but they should preserve each others options
[14:53] <TJ-> mijn: But is 'root' uid == 0 ?
 Do you mean this command  sudo  dhcpd3 -cf /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcp3-server  ???
[14:54] <mijn> TJ-: i guess he used 'sudo -i' or 'su -s'
[14:55] <kogo>  <mijn> TJ- yes that's right
[14:55] <TJ-> kogo: No, the permission-denied is usually when  the user account you use to execute script doesn't have the 'root' privileges (uid==0) necessary
  so what should i  do ???
[14:56] <TJ-> mijn: I wasn't too sure the sophistication of the user; as a security precaution on all my systems 'root' isn't uid==0, it is a non-privileged account
[14:56] <mijn> TJ-: oh, interesting
[14:56] <mijn> TJ-: so then how do you root? with sudo?
[14:58] <TJ-> mijn: No, the uid==0 account simply has a random name
[14:58] <TJ-> mijn: sudo still works as you'd expect
[14:58] <mijn> hitsujiTMO: any references where i could read on that?
[14:59] <Smit-Tay> Aha.....My interfering network dude decided I needed it.   What a plonker.
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> mijn: afraid not. xorg config is very much allover the place
[14:59] <Smit-Tay> Should have guessed, this is the second time he has installed RedHat based software on my machines.
[15:00] <Smit-Tay> I'll have to set up an alert to let me know when he does something
[15:00] <OerHeks> Smit-Tay, glad you found out
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> Smit-Tay: i would guess he's using it for spacewalk
[15:00] <Smit-Tay> Yes
[15:00] <Smit-Tay> What is that
[15:00] <Squiggz> hey real quick can anyone help me with connecting a wifi printer with ubuntu
[15:01] <Smit-Tay> ANd why would he think I should be running it ?
[15:01] <hitsujiTMO> Smit-Tay: systems management software
[15:01] <Tokallo> hi every body
[15:01] <Tokallo> i have problem with tor in terminal
[15:02] <Tokallo> when i try curl icanhazip.com
[15:02] <OerHeks> Squiggz, quick answer https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[15:02] <Tokallo> i get this error:<html> <head> <title>Tor is not an HTTP Proxy</title> </head> <body> <h1>Tor is not an HTTP Proxy</h1> <p> It appears you have configured your web browser to use Tor as an HTTP proxy. This is not correct: Tor is a SOCKS proxy, not an HTTP proxy. Please configure your client accordingly. </p> <p> See <a href="https://www.torproject.org/documentation.html">https://www.torproject.org/documentation.html</a> for more inform
[15:02] <Squiggz> yea im there no luck but i was able t type in the host name now its asking me to pick the queue connection
[15:02] <Tokallo> i even unset http_proxy and https_proxy and ftp_proxy
[15:02] <Tokallo> but wont work
[15:03] <Tokallo> anybody faced same problem?
[15:03] <Squiggz> and there is about 20 to pick from
[15:03] <TJ-> Squiggz: Wifi/Wired - just find the network printer drivers that match the device and configure them through the local CUPS admin http://localhost:631/
[15:03] <Smit-Tay> Just what I need, some non-developer network/server administrator deciding what versions of stuff I need on my build server.  Just to guarantee that I never know what I am building.
[15:04] <Tokallo> you can look at terminal export :http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965829/
[15:05] <Smit-Tay> Thanks for the help <hitsujiTMO> , <OerHeks> and others
[15:05] <Tokallo> hear me????
[15:05] <Tokallo> :)))
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> !patience | Tokallo
[15:08] <Squiggz> nice got it thanks
[15:08] <Tokallo> any body enabled TOR in TERMINAL ??
[15:09] <Squiggz> tj-: you ready for the usb 3.0 round about??
[15:09] <TJ-> Squiggz: Sure; it's a one-liner change in theory
[15:09] <Squiggz> easy enough (i think) haha
[15:10] <Squiggz> throw it at me
[15:10] <GZA-Genius> Tokallo, yea what you need?
[15:10] <Scarunkk> Hello - I've got a issue trying to forward packet from eth1 (internal network) to eth0 (external network) - I have enable packet forwarding (/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward), and add  two iptables cmds (iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[15:10] <Scarunkk> iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -j ACCEPT) -- it's didn't work. packet stay on eth1 (I see it with wireshark).  someone can help me ?
[15:11] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965872/
[15:12] <TJ-> Squiggz: " sudo sed -i  's/\(GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=".*\)\("\)/\1 iommu=soft\2/' /etc/default/grub && sudo update-grub"
[15:12] <GZA-Genius> Tokallo, yea what you need?
[15:12] <Squiggz> ok thanks ill put it in the terminal now
[15:13] <TJ-> Squiggz: Once you've done that, restart the PC and *enter BIOS* and *DISABLE* the IOMMU, then boot the PC and everything should be working
[15:13] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: Thanks. But I have already try this, and it's change nothing
[15:13] <Squiggz> ill let you know in a few minutes
[15:13] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: are you using ufw?
[15:13] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: can I /query you ?
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: keep everything to this chat please
[15:14] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: I have disabled UFW with ufw diseable
[15:15] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: and then run that?
[15:16] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: on the client end of eth1 what are you using as the default gateway?
[15:16] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: on the client end of eth1, I've put eth1 ip address as gateway
[15:17] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: I have a tablet connected to my wifi AP, connected to eth1
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: ok sounds about right. and what about dns then?
[15:17] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: on my wifi AP, I have put eht1 address for the gateway
[15:18] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: I don't care about dns, I try to ping <IP_ADDRESS> from the tablet (who is connected to the wifi ap, who can ping eth1 but not eth0)
[15:19] <Squiggz> TJ-: it work!!!
[15:19] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: ahh ok. can you pastebin the output of: ifconfig && arp && ip route
[15:19] <Squiggz> thanks man I owe ya you pretty much got this computer up and running !!
[15:20] <Tokallo> sorry i was disconnected
[15:20] <Tokallo> i had  problem with tor
[15:20] <Tokallo> one of friend told me has experience on tor
[15:20] <Tokallo> i dont remember name , please tell me again
[15:21] <TJ-> Squiggz: You doubted me? Oh Ye of Little Faith! :D
[15:22] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965909/
[15:22] <onizu> can someone help me install jolicloud-desktop-environment please? i added the ppa:jolicloud-team/ppa and updated apt-get . But when I tried to apt-get install jolicloud-desktop-environment, i got an error that package could not be found
[15:22] <Squiggz> hahaha heck no not after our 4 hrs of working before on the other issue!!
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: can you alswo pastebin the output of: sudo iptables --list
[15:22] <Tokallo> any body experince on config tor in terminal ?
[15:22] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965913/
[15:23] <ibDoug> Simple question, does anyone have a working Twitter app?
[15:23] <Squiggz> TJ-: Thanks again take it easy all
[15:24] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965922/ (thanks)
[15:24] <mad_> Türk olan var mı ?
[15:24] <d4rkt1m3s> hello, #ubuntu. I'm here for advice on buying a laptop. my last one conked out and the warranty service said that they won't repair it, but they'll send me a cheque for the purchase price of the laptop (which was substantial) I'm looking into a new System76 Laptop, specifically the Kudu Professional. has anyone here owned one?
[15:25] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: I have follow a ton of documentation of ubuntu forums and differents iptables commands, maybe I have broke something
[15:25] <daguz> I'm on server 1304 with static IP address:  interfaces has "dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS>"   but no matter what I restart (including full reboot) I cannot resolve.  There is no nameserver listted in /etc/resolv.conf.   What next?
[15:25] <mad_> Heyooo kimse yok mu tanıdık bilindik kendine has insanımız, insanlarımız
[15:25] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: i doubt it iptables flush ever boot
[15:26] <ActionPa1snip> d4rkt1m3s: check amazon for reviews of people buying devices, check which work well etc
[15:26] <cfhowlett> d4rkt1m3s, the dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is a nice option.
[15:27] <cfhowlett> !tr|mad_,
[15:27] <cfhowlett> !tk
[15:27] <sadbox> d4rkt1m3s: I've owned a system76 laptop before
[15:27] <d4rkt1m3s> sadbox: how was it?
[15:27] <ActionPa1snip> my Dell Latitude D420 works 100% out of the box :)
[15:27] <Scarunkk> any idea hitsujiTMO ?
[15:27] <sadbox> It was -alright-
[15:27] <Tor_> hi Friends
[15:27] <mad_> Teşekkürler ^^
[15:28] <d4rkt1m3s> sadbox: do you have any recommendations?
[15:28] <sadbox> d4rkt1m3s: They're rebranded clevo laptops, so the the build quality is average at best
[15:28] <Tor_> anybody configured TOR in TERMINAL
[15:28] <d4rkt1m3s> oh.
[15:28] <sadbox> d4rkt1m3s: I personally like the *30 generation and older of thinkpads
[15:28] <TJ-> daguz: Can you pastebin "/etc/network/interfaces" ?
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: you do seem to have an excessive Chain FORWARD list of rules, so maybe some interference here. try flushing the iptables rules again and retry: sudo iptables --flush            then save this as a script and run it with sudo http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965872/
[15:29] <Tor_> who sat Tor in terminal for curl or apt-get ???
[15:30] <daguz> /etc/network/interfaces:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965951/
[15:30] <mad_> Türkçe kanal önerisi olabilecek olan var mı ?
[15:31] <Tor_> i try curl icanhazip.com but see this:paste.ubuntu.com/6965829/
[15:31] <n8w> guys do u know how to solve: The process for the mtp protocol died unexpectedly after connectin android device?
[15:31] <hitsujiTMO> !tr | Mad_
[15:31] <TJ-> daguz: The tabbing in front of "iface eth0 inet static" might be an issue; that stanza typically starts at column 0. It is possible that is confusing the scripts.
[15:32] <Tor_> tor experinced users call me
[15:32] <Tor_> hellooo
[15:32] <cfhowlett> !tor
[15:32] <cfhowlett> !patience|Tor_,
[15:33] <cfhowlett> Tor_,  you might want to consult the actual tor documentation given above
[15:33] <daguz> TJ-: do the dns entries get tabbed or column 0 with the iface?
[15:33] <TJ-> Tor_: Use "torify"
[15:33] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: didn't work. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965987/
[15:34] <TJ-> daguz: Usually the 'body' of the iface is tabbed in, but the first line is at column 0. Not sure that is it, but its the only thing obviously different
[15:34] <TJ-> Tor_: however, you'll still need to use "tor-resolve" manually
[15:34] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: I would expect the issue is with the wifi AP. is there a web interface on it that can use ping?
[15:35] <Tor_> my problem is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965829/
[15:35] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: Yes, i'm login the wifi interface
[15:35] <Tor_> i dont know why proxy forwarding happens here>?
[15:35] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: and I can ping it from the tablet
[15:36] <TJ-> Tor_: e.g: "torify wget -qO- https://$(tor-resolve check.torproject.org)/ "
[15:36] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: and I can ofcourse ping it from ubuntu
[15:36] <genii> TJ-: The up flush-mail may need to go after gateway
[15:36] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: to be clear. are you able to ping from the wifi AP itself? not ping from the tablet
[15:36] <TJ-> genii: Order shouldn't be significant
[15:38] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: Oh sorry, I miss read. No I can't ping FROM the ap wifi
[15:39] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO:  I just reboot the AP-wifi and the tablet, maybe it'll work better
[15:39] <Tor_> TJ-: my problem is that i try torify i see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6966032/
[15:40] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: damn. ok, I would suspect some routing issue with the AP. it's difficult to get any accurate test here as you have an extra hop in between your test devices, so there's no way to be ablsolutely sure where the breakdown is. you'd need to get another device that you can test from directly onto your eth1
[15:41] <krew> hello
[15:41] <krew> i have Broadcom wireless
[15:41] <krew> but i don't show in iwconfig
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> !broadcom | krew
[15:41] <cfhowlett> krew, greetings
[15:42] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: Ok, I can try to remove the ap-wifi and replace with a standard usb->eternet cable (I didn't believed that is the issue)
[15:43] <d4rkt1m3s> sadbox: can I get it with Linux pre-installed or an assurance that my warranty will not be void if I install linux?
[15:44] <Tor_> anybody solve this problem??? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965829/
[15:44] <sadbox> d4rkt1m3s: Outside of system76 (and similar) probably not in the US
[15:44] <d4rkt1m3s> I'm looking for a canadian retailer actually.
[15:45] <d4rkt1m3s> Tor_: paste it to paste.opensuse.org so I can have a look at it.
[15:45] <bodhi_zazen> Tor_: did you follow the link given to you ? https://www.torproject.org/documentation.html">https://www.torproject.org/documentation.html
[15:46] <sadbox> d4rkt1m3s: Like someone else said earlier, check out the dell developer edition
[15:46] <Tor_> http://paste.opensuse.org/2238688
[15:46] <d4rkt1m3s> too much money.
[15:46] <bodhi_zazen> Tor_: see also http://z-computer-z.blogspot.com/2010/01/setting-socks-proxy-on-firefox.html or similar
[15:47] <bodhi_zazen> d4rkt1m3s: http://laclinux.com/en/Start
[15:47] <whitehat> hello. I'm having a slew of mount problems with an addon 4port sata card. drives attached to that card get mounted first over motherboard sata ports. ideas on how to get mobo ports recognized first?
[15:47] <d4rkt1m3s> Tor_: https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en
[15:47] <d4rkt1m3s> try that.
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> d4rkt1m3s: image the drive when you get it. then install linux. if you need to get something fixed on warranty then just image back onto the hdd
[15:48] <Tor_> i need enable tor in terminal
[15:48] <philinux> d4rkt1m3s;~ or just dual boot
[15:48] <Dallic> Tor_ what are you poiting at the tor process?
[15:49] <Tor_> for example when i type curl icanhazip.com i want to see proxi ip not my real ip but i see my real ip
[15:49] <Dallic> It looks like what you are doing is setting you browser to tor as a HTTP proxy
[15:49] <Dallic> Ah
[15:49] <Dallic> ..
[15:49] <sadbox> d4rkt1m3s: lenovo does certify that some of their hardware works with linux: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?LegacyDocID=MIGR-48NT8D#2
[15:49] <Dallic> im not a curl guy... but how i bet the curl proxy options are sing HTTP proxy
[15:50] <Dallic> im not a big tor user but i have used proxychains to tunnle SOCKS in ssh back in college....
[15:50] <Dallic> I know thats not much help but it was a neet program. once installed you can just "proxychains curl <site>"
[15:53] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: Ok, so I'm connected with a simple eterneth cable (and usb-> Ethernet on both side) - I can ping the table, but the tablet can ping eth1, but not eth0, like before.
[15:54] <bodhi_zazen> Tor_: you are jumping from one problem to another so it is difficult to follow you or help you. The link you gave , http://paste.ubuntu.com/6965829/, is in regards to configuring your web browser and I gave you 2 links on how to resolve that
[15:54] <bodhi_zazen> Tor_: now you are asking about curl, lol
[15:55] <bodhi_zazen> Tor_: curl --socks5-hostname localhost:9050 ....
[15:56] <Tor_> it works with paramthere mentioned but how solve this http://paste.opensuse.org/2238688
[15:56] <bodhi_zazen> Tor_: somewhere along the way you were asking how to start TOR
[15:57] <bodhi_zazen> Tor_: I gave you 2 links on that problem already
[15:57] <bodhi_zazen> Tor_: http://z-computer-z.blogspot.com/2010/01/setting-socks-proxy-on-firefox.html
[16:00] <hyacinthe> hello!
[16:00] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: with this configuration (direct eternet cable) that prove that this is ubunutu the problem, have you got any idea ?
[16:00] <msvd-dz> grea
[16:00] <msvd-dz> arger
[16:02] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: nothing off the top of my head. i'll ping you as soon as I think of anything. hopefully someone can chime in with other ideas
[16:02] <Tor_> thanks friend
[16:04] <TJ-> Scarunkk: What does the routing table look like on the NATing host ("ip route ls") ?
[16:04] <TJ-> Scarunkk: OK, I found it in your pastebins
[16:05] <Scarunkk> TJ-:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6966151/
[16:05] <Scarunkk> TJ-:  I've change some stuff, because if the new configuration (direct ethernet cable instead of AP-wifi)
[16:13] <Scarunkk> TJ-, hitsujiTMO: if that can help, here some info about the network of the tablet http://paste.ubuntu.com/6966179/
[16:14] <MadScientist> Aramızda Türk olan var mı ???
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> !tr | MadScientist
[16:14] <TJ-> Scarunkk: If you've changed things, can you repost the configuration ("ifconfig -a && ip route ls && sudo iptables -vnL && sudo iptables -t nat -vnL") ?
[16:16] <Scarunkk> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6966193/
[16:16] <Scarunkk> TJ-: I have try to add one route, and change the ip of eth1 (for connecting to the device)
[16:19] <Scarunkk> TJ-: That is incredible, I really don't figure out what's happening
[16:19] <NeO__o> hi
[16:20] <NeO__o> I would like to create a complete backup of my pc (ubuntu 12.04) with all programms/file, that I can restore conveniently at any point
[16:20] <NeO__o> What is the best way/ tool?
[16:21] <cfhowlett> !clone|NeO__o,
[16:21] <Scarunkk> NeO or pyback
[16:21] <NeO__o> Actually I would like to store the backup on an external USB-hardrive
[16:22] <genii> NeO__o: You could also just boot to livecd/usb and dd it over
[16:22] <Scarunkk> NeO__o: pyback can do it
[16:22] <Scarunkk> TJ-: something looks wrong ?
[16:23] <TJ-> Scarunkk: I don't see a problem. If you've enabled masquerading then you can't ping the outgoing interface's IP address because that would require a loopback. If you ping the gateway, that should work (<IP_ADDRESS>), and you can ping the NATing host on its private IP.
[16:24] <NeO__o> Scarunkk: So you would then backup the / folder
[16:24] <NeO__o> ?
[16:24] <cfhowlett> !backup
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> Scarunkk: can you also confirm 1 thing: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[16:25] <Scarunkk> TJ-: I can't ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:25] <vyccus> va
[16:25] <TJ-> Scarunkk: really? OK, that is a problem :)
[16:26] <NeO__o> ubottu: I already had a look at the links, thx. I am looking for the most convenient way to backup and restore my complete system in a Windows-Style fashion. What would be the best programm?
[16:26] <Scarunkk> hitsujiTMO: yes (I have a watch -n1 on it.. ahah)
[16:26] <Scarunkk> TJ-: Oh, so what is going on ?
[16:26] <NeO__o> haha
[16:27] <hyacinthe> how to auto connect a modem zte on ubuntu 13.10? thanks
[16:29] <Scarunkk> TJ-: I have "network is unrechable" - and no paquet on eth1 (no arp packet), when trying to ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:32] <whoever> Scarunkk: check your netmask
[16:32] <Scarunkk> whoever: I don't understand ?
[16:33] <TJ-> Scarunkk: Is a default route defined on the client?
[16:34] <Tor_> anybody know any free test http proxy for ubuntu?????
[16:34] <TJ-> Scarunkk: "sudo ip route add default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0"
[16:35] <pietro10> Hi. Trying to cross-compile a 32-bit gtk program on 64-bit Ubuntu. I installed gcc/g++-multilib, both 32-bit and 64-bit libgtk-3-0 packages, and libgtk-3-dev, and passed -m32 to CFLAGS, CXXFLAGS, and LDFLAGS, however linking still can't find any of the GTK+ libraries. I do not get any messages about incompatible library versions, only that it could not find any of the GTK+ libraries. What can I do to fix this? Thanks.
[16:36] <TJ-> pietro10: You'd need to pastebin the Makefile
[16:36] <Scarunkk> TJ-: Hum. maybe it's related but when I put my eth1 to <IP_ADDRESS> (sudo ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> up) sometime the ip address of eth1 disappear
[16:36] <Tor_> is there any free http proxy for ubuntu?
[16:36] <Scarunkk> TJ-: Your ip route add default, do you want me to add it on the ubuntu (host) or the device ?
[16:36] <TJ-> Scarunkk: Do you have Network Manager usually managing the interfaces on there?
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> tor_ https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/squid.html
[16:37] <TJ-> Scarunkk: On the client device, if it doesn't already have a default route with the same specification. If it does already have a default route, show us what it is don't delete it
[16:37] <pietro10> TJ-: it's not make-based
[16:37] <pietro10> I can paste the command lines though, hold on
[16:38] <pietro10> it's a bunch of autogenerated C files being linked together
[16:39] <acu> hello everyone, I have a silly question - if I have a remote computer with /home/ and multiple users /home/mary  /home/jonny etc - if I ssh as marry and I sudo, I can do whatever in /home/jonny ? or I need to be real root to do anything in jonny's folder
[16:39] <Scarunkk> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6966311/
[16:40] <sara> hello
[16:40] <Scarunkk> omg
[16:40] <Scarunkk> TJ !
[16:40] <Tor_> does squid support http proxy and is it possible access blocked url in terminak
[16:40] <Scarunkk> That's work. I don't know if it's 'normal' (I have add ' ip route add default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0' to the device)
[16:42] <TJ-> Scarunkk: Well yes, it is required. Otherwise the device has no route to reach the <IP_ADDRESS>/15 network.
[16:42] <Kudu91> hello all.
[16:42] <TJ-> Scarunkk: That's the whole point of default routes - to send traffic that doesn't belong on the local sub-net to a system that can do something with it
[16:42] <pietro10> TJ-: http://pastie.org/8752534
[16:43] <Kudu91> thoughts on system76 computers?
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | Kudu91 ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:43] <Scarunkk> TJ-: Ok, thanks you so munch. I can do what I want know, based on your help
[16:43] <Kudu91> thank you
[16:44] <jonbryan> never heard of system76
[16:44] <Scarunkk> Do you know a tools to know which software or component remove my ip address ? (of eth1)
[16:45] <TJ-> pietro10: You're missing "-L" options
[16:45] <pietro10> shouldn't pkg-config --libs drop those in?
[16:45] <Tor_> is squid proxy free to usse?
[16:46] <TJ-> pietro10: No, gcc expects -Ldir to tell it where to look for the -llibs
[16:46] <OerHeks> Tor_, sure, it is free to install yourself, you are given an url for the manual
[16:47] <Scarunkk> Tor_: yes, you just have to change some line in the configuration file to make it's working
[16:47] <dhrosa> hello, I restarted my computer and suddenly all of my font sizes are HUGE, and overflowing out of menus, and some icons have also become massive
[16:47] <Tor_> scarunkk: can you please help me
[16:47] <dhrosa> where are all the places where font-size and the like are configured gnome-tweak-tool is at its defaults and I don't have font-size increases in my universal access, and my DPI is set to default (96x96)
[16:48] <Voyager82> Hello, I'm trying to convert some MP4 videos to AVI, in order to read it with my DVD player. I've noticed that using the ffmpg command, the quality of the video is deteriorated. Can you suggest me anything?
[16:48] <Scarunkk> Tor_: if I'm able to, yes
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> Voyager82: mp4 and avi are just containers. what are the actual arguments you are giving ffmpeg?
[16:49] <cfhowlett> Voyager82, eh?  shouldn't happen if the only thing changed is the transcode ...
[16:49] <Voyager82> Let me check.
[16:49] <dhrosa> alterntive question, is rm -rf ~/.config safe? Assuming i'm okay with re-configuring all my programs
[16:49] <cfhowlett> Voyager82, ffmpeg -i input.mp4 output.avi ?
[16:50] <Voyager82> ffmpeg -i filename.mp4 -vcodec mpeg4 -acodec ac3 -ar 48000 -ab 192k output.avi This is the command that I'm using.
[16:50] <Voyager82> I've found it in a forum online.
[16:50] <cfhowlett> Voyager82, test the simpler command I posted above.
[16:50] <Voyager82> cfhowlett, let me check.
[16:51] <hitsujiTMO> Voyager82: how big is the .mp4?
[16:51] <Voyager82> cfhowlett, what does the "-i" option stand for?
[16:51] <Voyager82> hitsujiTMO, very big. It's a movie.
[16:51] <cfhowlett> Voyager82, -i = input filename follows
[16:51] <hitsujiTMO> Voyager82: "very big" is a relative term. whats the actual size?
[16:52] <Voyager82> Let me check.
[16:52] <Voyager82> It's 250 MB large.
[16:52] <Voyager82> hitsujiTMO.
[16:52] <Tor_> Scarunkk: when squid installed can i curl URL with another ip????????
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> Voyager82: ok. that, in video terms, is relatively small :)     should be ok for straight to avi then at least
[16:54] <llutz> Voyager82: "movie" with 250MB, what quality do you expect?
[16:54] <Voyager82> I'm having problems writing, since my CPU is now asborbing all the resources to convert the file. I'll let you know. :)
[16:54] <dhrosa> strange, I've deleted my ~/.config and my font-sizes are still hueg
[16:54] <Voyager82> llutz, at least as good as the original one. :)
[16:55] <Tor_> does Squid provide access to filtered sites from bash ??????
[16:55] <pietro10> TJ-: ok, -L/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ is now on the command line before the -lgtk-3 etc., but I'm still getting th elinker complaint, even though the files are there
[16:55] <ikonia> Tor_: from bash ? bash is a shell
[16:55] <cfhowlett> Voyager82, assume garbage in/garbage out.  transcoding probably won't improve the final output
[16:55] <Tor_> yes i need access url from shell
[16:55] <ikonia> Tor_: how ?
[16:55] <subz3r0> ikonia: i guess he want to use something like wget with the proxy then
[16:56] <ikonia> Tor_: if you pass through a proxy, it will proxy the same as a browser
[16:56] <Voyager82> cfhowlett, ok. I'll let you know.
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> Voyager82: when converting from a low quality vid -> low quality vid then expect quality loss.    at least with the command cfhowlett gave you, you are not converting the internal stream
[16:56] <pietro10> never mind, I'll just set up a 32-bit linux for cross compiling, meh
[16:56] <pietro10> thanks anyway
[16:56] <Voyager82> hitsujiTMO, how do I convert the file effectively?
[16:57] <subz3r0> ikonia: how does it work? pass the shell through a proxy?
[16:57] <subz3r0> never thought about it. but nice to know
[16:57] <ikonia> subz3r0: the shell doesn't, tools like curl, wget etc,
[16:57] <hitsujiTMO> Voyager82: the command cfhowlett gave you...    other than that you should be using a high quality source, even for a low quality output
[16:57] <cfhowlett> agree ^^^
[16:57] <subz3r0> ikonia: yup.
[16:58] <cfhowlett> thus my comment garbage in/garbage out
[16:58] <ikonia> subz3r0: so what are you actually asking
[16:58] <Tor_> ikonia: did you get what i mean???
[16:58] <subz3r0> ikonia: thought there is maybe a trock how you can use everything what you use in the shell trought a proxy ;)
[16:58] <metaphysician> Thank a Linux packager today http://opensource.com/business/14/2/thank-a-linux-packager-today
[16:58] <subz3r0> trick
[16:58] <Voyager82> hitsujiTMO, really. I don't understand. I want to convert the same kind of information into another format. How am I supposed to do it?
[16:58] <ikonia> Tor_: what do you actually want to do
[16:58] <andybrine> Does anyone know a program that will allow you to rip a playable dvd on ubuntu?
[16:58] <Voyager82> hitsujiTMO, the quality is not DVD quality, but I want to keep it as good as possible. :)
[16:58] <subz3r0> ikonia: ofc you can to the trick with routing ;)
[16:59] <andybrine> P.s. This is my video
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> Voyager82: forst answer why you need to convert. whats the restriction with the player? just not able to read the mp4 container? or is it an issue with the codec itself?
[16:59] <subz3r0> andybrine: what does rip playable mean? Ripping a dvd means that you rip the stuff to your harddisk... nothing else
[16:59] <jhutchins> andybrine: dd
[16:59] <TJ-> pietro10: "find /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ -regex '.*/lib\(gtk\|atk\|gio\|pango\|gdpk_pixbuf\|cairo\|gobject\|glib\).*' | pastebinit "
[16:59] <subz3r0> jhutchins: :D
[17:00] <Tor_> ikonia: i need to add repo by apt-get update but url is banned by ISP
[17:00] <andybrine> I want to create a playable dvd
[17:00] <jhutchins> andybrine: That direction is "burn".
[17:00] <ikonia> Tor_: then you'll struggle to do tht
[17:00] <ikonia> that
[17:00] <Voyager82> hitsujiTMO, yes. I want to put it on DVD, to watch it on my TV. That's the issue. It's the DVD player that doesn't read MP4 files.
[17:00] <subz3r0> andybrine: what standard?
[17:00] <andybrine> Would be an mp4
[17:00] <TJ-> Tor_: If URL is banned, have you tried using it's IP instead?
[17:00] <Tor_> ikonia: is it possible bu squid??
[17:01] <ikonia> Tor_: running squid on the same ISP will still be blocked
[17:01] <subz3r0> andybrine: uhmm? didnt you say it doesnt work with mp4? now you want mp4?
[17:01] <jhutchins> Tor_: What repo?  Why is it blocked?
[17:01] <hitsujiTMO> Voyager82: then just use the line command cfhowlett. and that will change the container type. if it does infact show to be a codec issue, then you would need to convert from a higher quality source to get the same quality
[17:02] <jhutchins> andybrine: gnome's burner - brassero?  should be able to do that.
[17:02] <andybrine> Thanks jutchins
[17:02] <Voyager82> hitsujiTMO, ok. Let's see what happens. :)
[17:03] <Tor_> i dont know why it is blocked by ISP and its not matter , important issue is : is it possible way to overcome banned urls by squid
[17:03] <ikonia> Tor_: no, as the squid server will be on the same ISP and still blocked
[17:03] <ikonia> Tor_: plus we are not going to help you bypass your ISP's policy
[17:03] <andybrine> I have just tried to burn a playable dvd on ubuntu and it didnt work before
[17:05] <joshu__> 	 hi using parted for the first time. I have a new attached disk 4GB. If I use the following command: `    parted -s -a optimal /dev/sdb mkpart primary 645 4294` Does that mean that the root partition will be 4GB and be aligned 32K?
[17:11] <Tor_> anybody knows about nodejs
[17:11] <ikonia> Tor_: what's your question
[17:11] <ikonia> rather than asking if anyone knows about something
[17:12] <Tor_> i like to know who knows about nodejs
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> Tor_: thats an offtopic question then for this channel.
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> Tor_: #node.js is a good channel for such
[17:14] <Thete> Anyone here?
[17:14] <jonbryan> nope :P
[17:15] <Tor_> thanks
[17:18] <SupaYoshi> hey guys, im having issuees again with my dns server inside my openwrt box.
[17:18] <SupaYoshi> I have tunnlr installed, and I think it might have to do something with that.
[17:18] <SupaYoshi> But im not sure.
[17:19] <llutz> SupaYoshi: and your ubuntu-related question is?
[17:21] <SupaYoshi> oh crap im in the wrong channel
[17:21] <SupaYoshi> sorry
[17:27] <Helping_Hands> hiyo, need help--trying to install Ubuntu over network and it does not seem to get into Kickstart.  I have captured a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytjRh75ZQFQ&feature=youtu.be
[17:28] <JoeSomebody> without logging in via kde, can i customize up unity a bit to look like kde or windows? i could not figure it out, nor did i find what i thought were good link, i think there is often too many results in ubuntu search land, can someone provide some links on this? not wanting hand holding, just a pointer in the right direction :)
[17:28] <adwadwa> I HAVE A COMPRESSED FILE THAT UNCOMPRESSED DOES NOT FIT WITH THE COMPRESSED VERSION IN MY DISK IS THERE A WAY TO UNCOMPRESS IT AND DELETE THE COMPRESSED VERSION WHILE IT SI DONE?
[17:29] <adwadwa> sorry caps
[17:29] <jpds> adwadwa: Surely you can free up some space somehow.
[17:29] <JoeSomebody> i do not want to use kde on THAT machine due to wanting to try ubuntu only software
[17:29] <jpds> adwadwa: Otherwise, you have bigger problems.
[17:29] <hitsujiTMO> Helping_Hands: kickstart is for red hat based idstros, not debian based
[17:29] <adwadwa> jpds it is a server it has 30GB of hard disk
[17:29] <JoeSomebody> seems my kde login defeats that testing
[17:29] <Helping_Hands> hitsujiTMO, it says there is some support for kickstart
[17:30] <adwadwa> jdps my compressed file is 13 GB uncompresses 17 and the system uses up some
[17:30] <Helping_Hands> hitsujiTMO, let me point to the link
[17:30] <groundnuty> hey, I'm having problem with my hdd. I used to download 'ultimatebootcd' but the site seems now dead. what is a popular tool nowadays?
[17:30] <Helping_Hands> hitsujiTMO,  https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[17:30] <presto0> hi, i run an app in a VPS, from SSH, but when i close the SSH connection the application stops, how to keep it runing enven if i disconnect from it?
[17:31] <jpds> adwadwa: Then, you're going to have to move that somewhere else.
[17:31] <llutz> presto0: screen, nohup, ---
[17:31] <JoeSomebody> desktop icons and panel stuff mostly i want to customize, can i ?
[17:31] <presto0> i need more data llutz
[17:31] <presto0> how i do that?
[17:31] <AntelopeSalad> does anyone know offhand how to get around "the following signatures couldn't be verified... no pub key available" errors?
[17:32] <AntelopeSalad> i am following instructions that worked 5-6 months ago but it seems like they no longer work
[17:32] <hitsujiTMO> Helping_Hands: that documentation is pretty old looking and may be out of date.
[17:32] <Helping_Hands> hitsujiTMO,  I see
[17:33] <hitsujiTMO> Helping_Hands: this may be better for you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[17:33] <Phobos> hello guys
[17:33] <hitsujiTMO> Helping_Hands: still uses kickstart it seems
[17:33] <Helping_Hands> ok
[17:34] <Helping_Hands> hitsujiTMO, ill read it
[17:34] <Helping_Hands> hitsujiTMO, brb
[17:35] <Phobos> after removing some files manually of the  package nginx, files located in /etc and /var, it's seems impossible for me to recover this files in new installation
[17:35] <Phobos> even if I did apt-get purge etc
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> Phobos: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure nginx       maybe
[17:35] <Phobos> how can I fix this
[17:36] <Phobos> hitsujiTMO, I tried it but it gives nothing
[17:36] <hitsujiTMO> Phobos: otherwise you'll habe to go thru the install script and see how its generating those files
[17:36] <Phobos> hitsujiTMO, wow !!
[17:36] <Phobos> hitsujiTMO, any pistes to do so ?
[17:37] <Phobos> hitsujiTMO, there is no reset command in apt-get or something like that ?
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> Phobos: ok. don't purge nginx. purge and reinstal nginx-common
[17:38] <Phobos> hitsujiTMO, ok
[17:38] <AntelopeSalad> does anyone know why this would fail with a invalid public key not available error?
[17:38] <AntelopeSalad> http://stackoverflow.com/a/19622811
[17:39] <AntelopeSalad> it fails when i do an apt update
[17:39] <hitsujiTMO> Phobos: nginx-common is responsible for /etc/nginx/nginx.conf   at least. so thats the one to reconfigure
[17:39] <Phobos> hitsujiTMO, hhmm ok thanks I am trying
[17:41] <hitsujiTMO> AntelopeSalad: can you pastebin te output of: sudo apt-get update
[17:41] <Karditsa_btm> r
[17:41] <mvdve> Hi All, I have a ubuntu LAMP development server, works great, but i cant access files from een external system. the main page works perfect, but every sub page give a 404 error. Does somebody has any idea where this config issue is?
[17:41] <Phobos> hitsujiTMO, LOL that was the issue.. Thanks very much dude
[17:42] <AntelopeSalad> hitsujiTMO: https://gist.github.com/AntelopeSalad/9119286
[17:43] <nichlas> mvdve: who is the file/dir owner?
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> AntelopeSalad: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 0BB6536FEB999287
[17:44] <hitsujiTMO> AntelopeSalad: then rerun sudo apt-get update
[17:44] <negev> hi, i've configured touchegg and set my trackpad driver to evdev but the gestures aren't working, can anyone link me to a more thorough howto for this?  thanks
[17:44] <Phobos> exit
[17:45] <AntelopeSalad> hitsujiTMO: somehow i was able to install what i wanted to install without running apt update first -- is it possible it was reading an old key?
[17:45] <hitsujiTMO> AntelopeSalad: you can still install without a key. it just warns you that the package is unverified
[17:45] <AntelopeSalad> ah
[17:45] <AntelopeSalad> i thought it was a show stopper
[17:46] <AntelopeSalad> after your recommendation it successfully ran apt update without warnings, thanks
[17:47] <iwkse> hi, do you know any app where it's possible to track time and give a per hour cost? something like that?
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> AntelopeSalad: unverified repos leave you open to dns attacks is all. (dns entry pointing to a fake repo that is)
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> iwkse: like a net cafe POS software?
[17:47] <AntelopeSalad> hitsujiTMO: oh good to know, in this case it's postgres' official source
[17:48] <iwkse> hitsujiTMO: well somehow similar, but i need to to track my work
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> iwkse: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/rationalplan-single/ like ?
[17:51] <iwkse> hitsujiTMO: yeah something like that, thank you
[17:51] <JoeSomebody> i am scared to ask, but no answer can mean unity not customizable, can someone tell me please?
[17:52] <hitsujiTMO> iwkse: pleanty of others, but not sure what includes billing features too: http://www.dotproject.net/ http://www.achievo.org/ http://www.ganttproject.biz/ http://faces.homeip.net/
[17:52] <JoeSomebody> a page says drag an icon to desktop, then it crashes
[17:52] <JoeSomebody> reboot and same thing\ right of the reboot of updated system
[17:53] <JoeSomebody> tried other stuff i found on google,  didnt work so cant remember
[17:53] <JoeSomebody> could not even figure out how to change colors even
[17:55] <WiredGh0st> http://www.braindance.tk  new experimental music radio
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> WiredGh0st: please do not solicit here
[17:57] <JoeSomebody> clicked search icon, typed naut and kaboom it locked before i could finish trying it locks up, reboot update,  did it again
[17:57] <Noobler> hey
[17:57] <sjmikem> When I add a new .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications, do I need to re-login for it to be visible in the "Open with..." dialog ?
[17:57] <JoeSomebody> yes i am kde fan but this seems a BIT unusable guys
[17:57] <JoeSomebody> i am actually trying
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> sjmikem: no it should show up automatically. if its not can you pastebin the contents of the .desktop file
[17:59] <sjmikem> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/1SLKa5bg
[18:00] <sjmikem> trying to make it so that clicking on .ics file runs gcalccli import %U
[18:00] <sjmikem> s/gcalccli/gcalcli
[18:01] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: is it a terminal command?
[18:01] <sjmikem> Actionparsnip yes, installed in /usr/bin
[18:02] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: then you will need to change the command to run: gnome-terminal -c "your command here"
[18:02] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: unless you don't want to see the command run...
[18:03] <sjmikem> Actionparsnip: I don't care about seeing the command run, but the "Import ICS file into Google Calendar" is not showing up in my "Open With..." dialog
[18:04] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: ahh I see
[18:04] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: could look into nautilus scripts
[18:05] <sjmikem> Actionparsnip: Isn't adding the .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications supposed to be sufficient?
[18:06] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: could try in /usr/share/applications to be sure
[18:06] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: may have to run: nautilus -q ,to restart nautilus
[18:08] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: what sort of file does the 'file' command say your file you are right clicking is?
[18:08] <sjmikem> Actionparsnip: nautilus -q did not work
[18:09] <sjmikem> "vCalendar calendar file"
[18:09] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: ok that's cool. What are the options to open it with?
[18:11] <mariofanelli> #prod-team
[18:11] <sjmikem> When I right-click on it, I get options to open it with gvim or notepad, or "other application..."
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> sjmikem: try adding Terminal=true to the .desktop file
[18:11] <sjmikem> but when I select "other application", I do not see the new  .desktop action anywhere
[18:12] <Actionparsnip> sjmikem: what other applications can you open it with are in the right click menu?
[18:13] <sjmikem> hitsujiTMO: tried that, no luck
[18:13] <sjmikem> Actionparsnip: All of my other applications, from "Archive Manager" to "wordpad" are listed
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> sjmikem: also get rid of the TryExec
[18:15] <JoeSomebody> does anyone use canonical support here? thinking of buying it, if the only help i get is stuff like YOU CANT DO THAT IN GNOME , then will i get my money back?
[18:15] <JoeSomebody> why will you not answer ? i asked more than one thing here
[18:15] <Madcatyoji> What are you buying it for Joe? Are you trying to do something that you can't do in gnome?
[18:15] <JoeSomebody> i do not know what can or cannot be done in gnome
[18:16] <JoeSomebody> i want to try ubuntu only apps
[18:16] <sjmikem> OK, not sure what I did but it is working now.  Thanks for the help!
[18:16] <JoeSomebody> i am a kde guy last few years
[18:17] <Madcatyoji> I honestly don't know, I am avoiding gnome. lol
[18:17] <mvdve> nichlas, i tried several security settings, even 777 (still learing the security thing).
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> sjmikem: its because you effective had it point to 2 different apps or 2 different types of applications. so nautilus was filtering it out
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> sjmikem: this works for me http://paste.ubuntu.com/6966755/ as long as gcalcli is in $PATH
[18:18] <JoeSomebody> my fist questions will be how to make gnome MORE usable, i find it bad FOR ME, windows 8 category gui
[18:18] <JoeSomebody> emailed canonical
[18:19] <JoeSomebody> maybe they will respond this time
[18:19] <JoeSomebody> i dont think they liked my last message
[18:20] <SupaYoshi> i need some help with dnsmasq, is there anyone online here that can help me out with it?
[18:21] <JoeSomebody> i need 50 more icons than i can fit on that vertical bar
[18:21] <timppa> Hi! Is there a way to run unity8 on boot with current 14.04 version?
[18:21] <philbo> hi!
[18:21] <ainx> i wow trusty tahr
[18:22] <presto0> how to retrieve a nohup command
[18:22] <presto0> ¿?
[18:22] <JoeSomebody> need to know if there is opensuse yast type thing, for setting up the OS and GUI
[18:23] <philbo> I have an ubuntustudio livecd running. I have successfully installed to a usb external drive on my macbook - but I think something went wrong with the bootloader installation - holding "option" does not show the ubuntu partition
[18:23] <JoeSomebody> or a pclinuxos control centre type of thing
[18:23] <JoeSomebody> both awesome, you should clone them :)
[18:24] <philbo> presto0: do you mean you want to kill a process started with nohup?
[18:24] <JoeSomebody> even windows has those things (control panel)
[18:24] <haserwa> flightgear: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) aga 1:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 paigaldatakse
[18:24] <haserwa>             Depends: libopenal1 (>= 1:1.13) aga 1:1.13-4ubuntu3 paigaldatakse
[18:24] <haserwa>             Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.6) aga 4.6.3-1ubuntu5 paigaldatakse
[18:24] <haserwa>             Depends: libudev0 (>= 147) aga 175-0ubuntu9.4 paigaldatakse
[18:24] <haserwa>        Depends: zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) aga 1:<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-3ubuntu4 paigaldatakse
[18:25] <philbo> presto0: or do you mean you want to redirect the output of a process started with nohup?
[18:26] <JoeSomebody> not trying to say gnome is garbage, (or piss anyone off) i wouldn't really know yet anyways, but if not customizable at all then i will NEVER KNOW
[18:27] <martinrame> Hi, I need to execute an "at" command to restart a service at midnight. I'm wondering if the "sudo service xxxxxx restart" will ask for a password.
[18:27] <skelterjohn> so, i've lost my mouse. it's disappeared completely, and i'm not sure how to get it back.
[18:27] <JoeSomebody> I WILL SAY that like windows 8 , it scares my friends away
[18:27] <skelterjohn> i've only got one monitor
[18:27] <llutz> martinrame: it will, use "sudo -i" then "at blabla"
[18:27] <philbo> skelterjohn: this happened to me with a laptop trackpad - i plugged in a USB mouse and it came back
[18:27] <Pici> martinrame: or if you want to do it every midnight, put it in root's crontab.
[18:28] <skelterjohn> philbo: this is a desktop, i've re-plugged the mouse to no avail
[18:28] <martinrame> llutz: great!
[18:28] <martinrame> Pici: no, I just want to be executed one time.
[18:28] <JoeSomebody> thus i am here asking you how to tame the beast, please help
[18:28] <philbo> skelterjohn: oh dear ;o( not sure what else to suggest
[18:29] <skelterjohn> i imagine rebooting would fix it, but that's really obnoxious
[18:29] <skelterjohn> got a lot of stuff going on
[18:29] <skelterjohn> oh well, i guess that's what i have to do
[18:29] <philbo> does the mouse show up (if it's usb) with usb-devices?
[18:29] <JoeSomebody> way back, i didnt like kde a whole lot at first either, have used xfce and lxde distros too, i am trying to give it a fair chance
[18:29] <presto0> philbo i run an application using nohup and now i cannot write nay command, how do i write more commands while the process is runing
[18:29] <presto0> ¿?
[18:30] <llutz> martinrame: echo "service blafoo restart"|sudo at midnight                            could work too
[18:31] <martinrame> llutz: unrecognized service blafoo :)
[18:32] <martinrame> llutz: Done, I've tested with "atq" and the job was scheduled by root, so, tomorrow I'll check if it was run.
[18:32] <llutz> martinrame: works here, it's not ubuntu but shouldn't make any difference
[18:33] <philbo> presto0: i'm sorry i'm not sure - if you used bash - maybe you can "disown"?
[18:34] <Madcatyoji> Is there an easy way to set a cron to back up a specific folder and all contained files every hour or so and a separate job to say delete any occurrences of that folder and it's contents older than say 2 days?
[18:34] <presto0> it let me write but i am not in the line prompt
[18:34] <presto0> its like if.... after run the nohup command, you where in a notepad writing
[18:35] <Ergo> hello
[18:36] <philbo> presto0: are you in text mode? you could ctrl+alt+Fn2 to another shell and maybe try "disown" in bash?
[18:36] <Ergo> is it normal that on ubuntu 12.04 lxc-checkconfig returns User namespace: missing
[18:36] <yacc_> presto0: nohup command &
[18:36] <presto0> philbo i am connected by ssh to a VPS
[18:36] <yacc_> presto0: nohup just makes the command continue if you logout on it.
[18:36] <yacc_> presto0: & makes it run in the background.
[18:36] <philbo> whelp - i'm outa ideas! sorry presto0
[18:38] <Diplomatico> Hello, the upgrade to 13.10 had errors. What do I have to do?
[18:38] <philbo> apologies guys I must go - sorry I couldn't help
[18:38] <philbo> bye for now!
[18:40] <llutz> Madcatyoji: rsnapshot could help you. run it hourly and set "interval" according in your rsnapshot.conf
[18:40] <Madcatyoji> I will check that out. Thank you!
[18:41] <presto0> how i check if the process i runned using nohup is still running¿?
[18:42] <Oog> ubuntu 13.10 - have postgresql installed and it starts on boot via an init.d script i think. how do i disable it from starting at boot?
[18:42] <tmmunq> presto0: top
[18:42] <llutz> presto0: ps <pid>  or pgrep procname
[18:42] <nichlas> Diplomatico: load your backup and return to previous version. Or fresh install. Or maybe tell us what is wrong.
[18:43] <Diplomatico> I think fresh install would be the easiest thing to do...Thans...
[18:43] <Diplomatico> k
[18:43] <yacc_> presto0: & makes it run in the background.
[18:43] <ment0s> hello
[18:44] <negev> add-apt-repository ppa:utouch-team/daily <-- this gives me "cannot access PPA" but the link works fine in a browser, any ideas?
[18:44] <xangua> negev: use sudo
[18:44] <negev> i did
[18:44] <ment0s> Could some one help me with secondary hard drive which is spinning up even if no service is reading data from it ? I have ultrabay in my thinkpad and I always have to wait for that hard drive to spin up
[18:44] <negev> im root
[18:45] <presto0> how do i "nohup" a process ?
[18:45] <presto0> i mean no "nohup"
[18:45] <presto0> undenohup
[18:46] <xangua> negev: looks like it's no longer aviable https://launchpad.net/~utouch-team/+archive/daily
[18:46] <hpanni> hi
[18:46] <hpanni> hello
[18:46] <Xuisce> hello
[18:46] <negev> ugh
[18:47] <negev> i just want trackpad gestures, why is this so hard :/
[18:47] <llutz> presto0: fg <jobnr>
[18:48] <presto0> how do i see a list of all the linux comand available ?
[18:49] <Matriks404> ls /bin or ls /usr/bin
[18:50] <presto0> damn, after execute "nohup process" i enter in text mode, any way to be out of there
[18:50] <presto0> ¿?
[18:51] <Thete> what process did you do that to?
[18:51] <presto0> its a nodejs application
[18:51] <presto0> i put "nohup node gekko"
[18:51] <presto0> and it works
[18:51] <presto0> but i enter in text mode then
[18:52] <llutz> presto0: ctrl c
[18:52] <presto0> if i press control C
[18:52] <presto0> the app ends up killed
[18:52] <llutz> presto0: that stops the process, ctrl-z to suspend (bg to send it in background)
[18:53] <presto0> i nice, control z did the work
[18:53] <presto0> i checked the ls /bin
[18:53] <llutz> presto0: disown -h          would prevent the job from being killed if you logout
[18:54] <presto0> well, nohup works
[18:54] <presto0> even if i logout
[18:54] <presto0> its still running
[18:56] <presto0> i did "man disown" and then "control z"
[18:56] <presto0> the job is in the backgrown now
[18:56] <presto0> how do i stop it?
[18:56] <presto0> i check the "ps aux" list and the PID is 2046
[18:56] <presto0> i put kill 2046 and it dont work
[18:57] <llutz> presto0: fg <jobnr>
[18:57] <llutz> presto0: "q"
[18:58] <presto0> okeyyy
[18:58] <presto0> by the way, the "control z" stops the application
[18:58] <presto0> its not good...
[18:58] <llutz> presto0: it suspends, yes. use "bg" to let it run in backgroud
[18:58] <llutz> presto0: it suspends, yes. use "bg" to let it run in background
[18:59] <presto0> looks like its paused
[18:59] <presto0> okey
[18:59] <presto0> let me try
[18:59] <llutz> presto0: http://linuxcommand.org/lts0080.php
[19:01] <presto0> i can't kill a paused process?
[19:01] <presto0> its not workinggg argh
[19:01] <presto0> i feel fustrated
[19:01] <llutz> presto0: kill %<jobnr>
[19:03] <presto0> [root@Saturnk gekko]# kill %2282
[19:03] <presto0> -bash: kill: %2282: no such job
[19:03] <llutz> presto0: jobnr is not pid
[19:03] <llutz> presto0: "jobs" to find it
[19:03] <llutz> presto0: read the link i gave you
[19:03] <Brutus|_> does anyone know why on my ubuntu machine my ad blockers might not work in chromium? I got the latest version. Even reinstalled the add blockers. work fine on windows
[19:03] <presto0> i am on it
[19:04] <Nach0z> Brutus|_: IIRC chromium comes with its own version of flash bundled, it's possible that abp doesn't work on the bundled version. might try enabling normal flash in chromium to see if that fixes it.
[19:04] <Nach0z> maybe.
[19:05] <Brutus|_> Nach0z: that's a good tip. I'll try that
[19:05] <Brutus|_> Thanks
[19:05] <xangua> Nach0z:  Brutus|_ chromium does not come with pepper flash, google chrome does
[19:09] <presto0> okey so control-Z stops the process and "bg <job>" make it run again
[19:09] <Brutus|_> Nach0z: I can't seem to get the right flash player. I got the last version installed (11.2) according to the site
[19:09] <Brutus|_> but other sites tell me to install 12 which I can't find :S
[19:09] <Brutus|_> my system is up-to-date
[19:10] <Brutus|_> adobe says I'm using the latest
[19:10] <wheatthin> You have a choice.. either wait until you can update to 14.04, or install using a ppa
[19:11] <wheatthin> Brutus|_, ^^
[19:12] <Brutus|_> oh
[19:12] <Brutus|_> what do I update with the PPA?
[19:13] <Thete> I wish 14.04 was out already
[19:13] <Thete> I wanna upgrade my servers
[19:14] <tmmunq> upgrade some virtual ones to the rc?
[19:14] <bekks> Thete: No need to hurry, 12.04 is supported until 2017.
[19:14] <Brutus|_> no idea if there is something new in 14.04
[19:14] <Thete> Unfortunately I'm not running LTS :(
[19:15] <Thete> I'm on 12.10 & 13.04 at the moment
[19:15] <bekks> 13.04 is EOL.
[19:15] <Brutus|_> I'm on 12.04 and 13.10
[19:15] <bekks> Thete: you should update it to 13.10 immediately.
[19:15] <Thete> I'm gonna wait til april
[19:15] <Thete> I have a ton of sites to migrate
[19:15] <Thete> Don't wanna have to do it twice
[19:16] <tmmunq> how long are the non-LTS releases supported now? i though it was at least 18 months
[19:16] <bekks> Thete: And you are leaving all sites without support, without security updates till april.
[19:16] <Brutus|_> 4x 12.04 at work as servers, 3x 13.10 at home
[19:16] <bekks> tmmunq: 12.10 18 months, 13.04 9 months, 13.10 9 months.
[19:16] <Thete> bekks: I'm not worried about it
[19:17] <Brutus|_> Hey I'm running 4 server 2003 servers at work
[19:17] <Brutus|_> :)
[19:17] <Brutus|_> 3 servers with 2008R2 and about 15 with 2012R2
[19:17] <Thete> the only thing open on em is nginx
[19:18] <bekks> Thete: No ssh?
[19:18] <fer755> Brutus|_, ar? and it is relevant to tell that on #debian?
[19:18] <Brutus|_> it's not debian
[19:18] <Brutus|_> It's Ubuntu :P
[19:18] <fer755> sry *#ubuntu
[19:18] <Thete> bekks: Not to the outside
[19:18] <Brutus|_> But I thought we were comparing version s:)
[19:19] <ice9> rsync can't delete non-empty dirs even when using --force
[19:20] <bekks> Thats not true.
[19:20] <bekks> rsync deletes the content and then the empty di.
[19:20] <bekks> *dir even. I am using that for years now.
[19:20] <ice9> bekks: "cannot delete non-empty directory: "
[19:21] <bekks> ice9: Then you dont have permissions to delete the content.
[19:21] <ice9> bekks: "rsync -arvih --force --delete --delete-before --progress --stats "
[19:22] <ice9> bekks: now I'm the owner and I have full permission
[19:23] <presto0> is there any damn easy way to isntall VNC in a VPS with just one or two copy/paste commands?
[19:24] <bekks> presto0: "sudo apt-get install tightvncserver" - and please watch your language.
[19:33] <Blanco> Re
[19:34] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> When you boot the computer, it writes where /dev/dvd looks.  Where is the file on the operating system that does this?
[19:35] <bekks> Ryu_Fitzgerald: Whats the actual issue behind that?
[19:36] <tmmunq> i think its udev that makes those devices
[19:36] <llutz> Ryu_Fitzgerald: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules  you mean?
[19:41] <streulma> hello, unity-panel-service crashing in 13.10. Are there other people who has the same? It's right after logout and login.
[19:41] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> is unity panel service related to unity web player?
[19:42] <chaotix> heyy...  so i may have just broken my Ubuntu install and could use a hand please
[19:42] <chaotix> i might be just paranoid
[19:42] <bekks> chaotix: So just ask a specific question.
[19:42] <chaotix> anyways, i went to try out an app called musica, so i instaled via the command line
[19:42] <chaotix> i am
[19:42] <chaotix> i am a slow typer
[19:43] <chaotix> and then it gave me an error
[19:43] <bekks> 17SAAHV8M: Which error...?
[19:43] <idontknow> sudo apt-get install porn
[19:43] <chaotix> so i went to uninstall, and without reading what it was uninstlling, said yes to it...
[19:43] <bekks> GNA.
[19:43] <idontknow> clear
[19:43] <idontknow> clear
[19:43] <idontknow> exit
[19:43] <chaotix> http://fpaste.org/79028/25194139/
[19:43] <bekks> chaotix: Please ask a specific question one line.
[19:43] <chaotix> there is the paste
[19:43] <bekks> !details | chaotix
[19:44] <presto0> damn
[19:44] <presto0> xfce takes ages to install
[19:44] <chaotix> ok, i will re state what i just said in one line
[19:45] <streulma> chaotix: I see it is removing Wine
[19:46] <streulma> and all it related 32-bit packages chaotix
[19:46] <streulma> nothing wrong with that :)
[19:46] <kostkon> Ryu_Fitzgerald, not related
[19:46] <chaotix> streulma, should i re install all the stuff it just uninstalled?
[19:46] <kostkon> streulma, you could try resetting unity/compiz http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[19:47] <streulma> chaotix: if you need Wine > sudo apt-get install wine
[19:47] <sadbox> chaotix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/musica/+bug/1244293   ?
[19:47] <chaotix> streulma, ok....  thanks
[19:47] <chaotix> streulma, i see now...
[19:48] <chaotix> i do not know why it was getting rid of wine...  oh well..  next time i will pay attention before i say yes
[19:48] <chaotix> i was distracted
[19:48] <sadbox> chaotix: A few days ago I accidentally autoremoved xorg + most of my sustem
[19:48] <streulma> kostkon: this site is not available
[19:49] <chaotix> sadbox, whoa
[19:49] <kostkon> streulma, what do you mean
[19:49] <sadbox> chaotix: tl;dr don't install xorg-dev if you're using the saucy-lts packages
[19:50] <chaotix> sadbox, can you re install before the computer restarts, or did you have to re install ubuntu?
[19:50] <streulma> kostkon: can't access webupd8.org (I know this site)
[19:53] <streulma> guys, install Ubuntu 12.04, 13.10 or 14.04 in test ?
[19:53] <kikjezrous> 13.10, imo.
[19:53] <bekks> 12.04
[19:53] <streulma> 12.04 is now more stable bekks ?
[19:54] <user_> d
[19:54] <bekks> !lts | streulma
[19:54] <streulma> on the workplace they use 12.04
[19:54] <kikjezrous> yeah, but 13.10's stabler/faster, from what i've seen.  are you doing it for work or for personal test?
[19:54] <kikjezrous> LTS for workplace, sure.
[19:55] <user_> how do i log into my actually irc account?
[19:56] <user_> loging
[19:57] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> does avast antivirus monitor the system for infection or is it simply a scanner?
[19:57] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> i am refering to the free one
[19:57] <bekks> Ryu_Fitzgerald: You have to ask avast.
[19:58] <KM0201> Ryu_Fitzgerald: not 100% sure, but i belive it's just a scanner
[19:58] <lebafar> hey guys, what free VM would you recommend me to run Ubuntu server?
[19:58] <bekks> lebafar: Virtualbox.
[19:58] <alazar> anybody have a udev rule to ignore usb storage devices?
[19:59] <KM0201> lebafar: virtualbox is easy.
[19:59] <KM0201> lebafar: what are you using your server for?
[20:00] <lebafar> bekks, ok, thank you. is it : sudo apt-get install virtualbox the command to install it?
[20:00] <TJ-> lebafar: kvm/qemu, or mabe lxc containers
[20:00] <lebafar> KM0201, Apache for now.
[20:00] <presto0> hi,
[20:00] <KM0201> hmm.
[20:00] <presto0> i installed VNC with xfce and i connect but i just see a background image, no icons, no nothing, no bar...
[20:00] <TJ-> alazar: You can add a simple rule that matches on the usb-storage sub-system, in "/etc/udev/rules.d/"
[20:01] <bekks> presto0: Thats intended, since VNC runs on its own display.
[20:01] <bekks> !vnc | presto0
[20:01] <lebafar> If I intend to have a client accessing vim at server, how do I connect with it?
[20:01] <TJ-> lebafar: If you want the VM for a single-application appliance type deployment that LXC would be favourite
[20:01] <bekks> lebafar: ssh
[20:01] <alazar> yep, been working on trying to get a rule that matches for some time, no luck yet, was hoping someone might have done it already
[20:01] <presto0> so? how do i see the scren
[20:01] <presto0> the bar and so on
[20:01] <lebafar> TJ-, I may install some extra stuff in future.
[20:02] <vfsm> hello all
[20:02] <lebafar> bekks, thank you.
[20:03] <vfsm> can i say my problem with ubuntu?
[20:03] <bekks> presto0: You would have to setup and use x11vnc.
[20:03] <TJ-> alazar: you want to stop usb-storage mass-storage devices being handled?
[20:03] <presto0> damn so whats the use of vnc
[20:03] <presto0> if you see nothing
[20:03] <presto0> but a the mouse and a background
[20:04] <alazar> TJ-: exactly
[20:04] <bekks> presto0: Watch your language.
[20:04] <alazar> TJ-: tried a number of udev rules, having a hard time getting a rule to do the job.
[20:04] <compdoc> presto0, what version of ubuntu?
[20:04] <presto0> sorry i am frustrated
[20:04] <presto0> its cenos 6
[20:04] <presto0> centos 6
[20:05] <compdoc> heh
[20:05] <bekks> presto0: Then go ask the centos support.
[20:05] <Jordan_U> presto0: This is #ubuntu. Try #centos for CENTOS support.
[20:05] <presto0> isnt all same thing?
[20:05] <bekks> presto0: No. Centos isnt Ubuntu.
[20:06] <Jordan_U> presto0: No, it definitely isn't. If you want a generic linux support channel there is also ##linux.
[20:06] <presto0> well its all linux
[20:06] <compdoc> presto0, most of the time, you need to edit the file /home/user/.vnc/xstart
[20:06] <compdoc> once that file is right, and you give yourself a vncpasswd, you should be good to go
[20:07] <presto0> [root@Saturnk bill]# cat /home/user/.vnc/xstart
[20:07] <presto0> cat: /home/user/.vnc/xstart: No such file or directory
[20:07] <presto0> [root@Saturnk bill]#
[20:07] <Jordan_U> presto0: The official policy of this channel is that we only support Ubuntu. Please respect that.
[20:07] <TJ-> alazar: "  ACTION=="add|change", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", SUBSYSTEM=="block", GOTO="usbignore_end"  "  LABEL="usbignore_end" might get you started
[20:07] <compdoc> presto0, doesnt sound like youve installed a vnc server
[20:07] <Beldar> compdoc, Help them in a pm or the correct channel. ;)
[20:08] <presto0> well
[20:08] <alazar> TJ-: hmm that is a diff approach. I'll try it. Can I ask what lead you to that solution w/ the GOTO?
[20:08] <presto0> i am connected to it
[20:08] <presto0> damn it with centos cahnnel, they ask for registered nick
[20:08] <presto0> each step is a damn barrier
[20:09] <TJ-> alazar: It's the standard way of matching on something but doing nothing
[20:09] <compdoc> IRC is hell
[20:09] <lebafar> Ubuntu Server 13.10 runs only at 32 bits?
[20:09] <Beldar> presto0, You are not following a mods request, they will quiet you or ban you, just a heads up, you can register.
[20:09] <DJones> presto0: This channel is for Ubuntu support, #centos is for Centos support
[20:09] <alazar> TJ-: thanks - I'll try it. later
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> lebafar: i386 = 32bit. amd64 = 54bit
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> 64bit*
[20:10] <compdoc> lebafar, I use the 64bit version
[20:11] <grisza> witam
[20:12] <lebafar> hitsujiTMO, I could only find 64 bits version at ubuntu.com :P
[20:13] <presto0> [root@Saturnk bill]#
[20:13] <presto0> what does that means?
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> lebafar: http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/
[20:13] <presto0> i am root or i am bill ?
[20:13] <llutz> presto0: "whoami" tells you
[20:13] <presto0> it says root
[20:13] <presto0> and "bill" is what
[20:13] <DJones> presto0: Please pastebin cat/etc/issue
[20:14] <lebafar> hitsujiTMO, oh, cool, thank you man!
[20:14] <grisza> what v is better ?  11 nifa or 12 ?
[20:14] <llutz> presto0: echo $PS1
[20:14] <presto0> DJones
[20:14] <presto0> [root@Saturnk bill]# cat /etc/issue
[20:14] <presto0> CentOS release 6.5 (Final)
[20:14] <presto0> Kernel \r on an \m
[20:14] <lvleph> can someone help me figure out why lsassd is using 100% of cpu on two cores?
[20:15] <streulma> presto0 please ask in #centos
[20:15] <DJones> presto0: ok, You're using centos, please join the centos support channels, this channel is for Ubuntu support only, we can't help you with centos issues
[20:15] <presto0> they ask me for
[20:15] <presto0> registered nick
[20:15] <llutz> !register | presto0
[20:16] <presto0> i dont have enough force to register the nick
[20:16] <DJones> presto0: Thats a simple thing, #freenode can help with that, or see the bot's link
[20:16] <presto0> i am so frustrated to focus or more steps
[20:16] <presto0> on*
[20:16] <DJones> presto0: Enough. You're not using Ubuntu, please don't keep asking here
[20:16] <compdoc> may the force be with you
[20:17] <presto0> linux exhaust my mental energy
[20:18] <lvleph> registering your nick has nothing to do with linux
[20:18] <grisza> :))
[20:18] <lvleph> can someone help me figure out why lsassd is using 100% of cpu on two cores?
[20:19] <grisza> how to join #centos ?
[20:19] <wheatthin> type /join #centos
[20:19] <grisza> thx:)
[20:20] <grisza> wheatthin i have now version 11.10 but, maybe 12.10 is better on my first time on linux ?
[20:21] <bekks> 11.10 is EOL, you have to upgrade to 12.04 at least.
[20:21] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> does this rule command make a symlink from /dev/dvd to /dev/sr0?    KERNEL=="sr0", SYMLINK+="dvd"
[20:21] <grisza> EOL ? what is it
[20:21] <Thete> end of life
[20:21] <Thete> Put 13.10 on it
[20:21] <wheatthin> 12.04 is LTS and is supported until april 20th or something like that
[20:21] <Jordan_U> !eol | bekks
[20:22] <bekks> Jordan_U: I know that - and 11.10 is EOL :)
[20:22] <wheatthin> grisza,  from there you can update to 14.04
[20:22] <TJ-> Ryu_Fitzgerald: yes
[20:22] <Jordan_U> bekks: Sorry, meant that for grisza of course :)
[20:22] <bekks> wheatthin: 12.04 is supported until 2017.
[20:22] <Thete> eww, upgrade
[20:23] <lvleph> got logged out so I will ask my question again, just in case.
[20:23] <lvleph> can someone help me figure out why lsassd is using 100% of cpu on two cores?
[20:23] <grisza> heh... but i hear on 13.xx there some problems
[20:23] <bekks> grisza: then use 12.04
[20:24] <TJ-> lvleph: execute it under 'gdb' and then break into it and get a back-trace
[20:24] <grisza> what about 12.10 ?
[20:24] <wheatthin> grisza, besides ati's proprietary drivers, I have no problems with 13.10
[20:24] <lvleph> man I am too lazy for that. lol
[20:24] <bekks> grisza: you would have to update to 12.04 and then to 12.10. Or just stay with 12.04
[20:24] <daniele__> hi all ... have problem in my toshiba with ubuntu 13.10 ----> hibernate and suspend / resume failure !! what can i do??
[20:24] <lvleph> I have no problems at all with 13.10, well except lsassd.
[20:24] <grisza> ok
[20:25] <lvleph> daniele see if typing sudo pm-suspend in terminal works
[20:25] <lvleph> daniele__, ^^^
[20:25] <daniele__> ok
[20:25] <daniele__> i will see
[20:26] <daniele__> lyleph yeah it work, but the problem is that i can't after suspend work again with ubuntu
[20:26] <grisza> a few min ago i will try install 12.04 but my cd broken and must install 11.04, now i download 12.04 and install ubuntu by pendrive
[20:27] <lvleph> what do you mean daniele__ ?
[20:27] <daniele__> ok i use google translate for be more clear lol
[20:27] <lvleph> daniele__, I understood, but you just need to be more specific
[20:28] <lvleph> daniele__, what language do you speak?
[20:28] <stratus_ss> hi all, can someone help me understand patch files?
[20:28] <daniele__> italian
[20:28] <daniele__> lyleph
[20:29] <rww> ubottu: it
[20:29] <lvleph> My italian is spanish. lol
[20:29] <daniele__> italian ... not answer me :(
[20:29] <rww> ah
[20:29] <grisza> anybody programming on java on ubuntu ?
[20:30] <bekks> !anyone | grisza
[20:30] <daniele__> the problem is that when I suspend the PC can not restart it, but i see only the black screen nothing
[20:30] <Xuisce> hey grisza  head over to #java
[20:30] <Xuisce> :)
[20:30] <grisza> ok sorry
[20:30] <Xuisce> or #programming
[20:30] <Xuisce> no its fine
[20:30] <grisza> sorry guys
[20:30] <Xuisce> grisza:  really don't apologize :
[20:30] <Xuisce> :)
[20:31] <lvleph> daniele__, I understand
[20:31] <lvleph> let me see what I can figure out
[20:31] <daniele__> ok thank you !
[20:31] <grisza> i dont know too much about ubuntu, and im looking help for first steps : P
[20:32] <lvleph> daniele__, maybe look at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/361547/ubuntu-freezes-crash-after-wake-when-upgraded-to-13-10
[20:32] <grisza> join /java
[20:32] <lvleph> grisza, you mean /join #java
[20:32] <daniele__> ok i'im going to see it
[20:33] <nullfaith> I just installed ubuntu 13.10 so I could play some games. I auto-hid my unity panel, but I still have an issue. If I play Regnum at 1920x1080, the gnome panel up top stops me from being able to see the bottom of the game window because I cannot raise it that extra half inch.
[20:33] <HDRDanny> Does anyone need a free TeamSpeak 3 server?
[20:33] <HDRDanny> Up to 100 slots.
[20:33] <rww> HDRDanny: That's not on-topic for this channel.
[20:33] <nullfaith> Can I autohide the gbnome panel as well?
[20:33] <nullfaith> gnome*
[20:33] <HDRDanny> rww: you're not my mom.
[20:34] <HDRDanny> This channel has nearly 2K people in it.
[20:34] <rww> HDRDanny: This is an Ubuntu support channel. Are you going to stick to Ubuntu support in it, or no?
[20:34] <HDRDanny> And it can kind of be on topic. The server is run on a Ubuntu server.
[20:34] <rww> offering your server to people is not an Ubuntu support topic, sorry
[20:35] <grisza> guys :D linux is awesome :)
[20:35] <daniele__> lyleph thank you anyway i will try immediatly it :D
[20:35] <HDRDanny> I'm not offering MY server.
[20:35] <HDRDanny> >_>
[20:35] <HDRDanny> FFs.
[20:35] <tirengarfio> any alternative to amule for the kad network?
[20:35] <rww> HDRDanny: That wasn't a rhetorical question, by the way. Are you going to stick to Ubuntu support in here, or not?
[20:35] <HDRDanny> I'm sure I don't have to answer.
[20:36] <HDRDanny> As an American I'll plead my fifth amendment.
[20:36] <rww> erm
[20:36] <hggdh> now that was interesting
[20:37] <Beldar> larry, moe and curly
[20:39] <riqdiiz> Wow..!
[20:40] <nullfaith> And if nobody can answer that question, maybe someone could help me in figring out a way to enable full screen game play one one screen, without it mirroring to the other. I have them set as separate desktops, but when I hit Fullscreen in regnum it mirrors, and I have to redo display settings.
[20:40] <nullfaith> The answer, or help with, either of these questions would be a huge help.
[20:40] <geirha> nullfaith: look into xephyr and similar
[20:41] <nullfaith> Googling now, thanks geirha.
[20:41] <nullfaith> Ok so this is a "virtual desktop" server sort of, that would allow me to play with x/y's without affecting my true desktop?
[20:42] <geirha> nullfaith: Basically, it gives you an Xserver inside a window in another Xserver
[20:43] <nullfaith> Thanks a ton, I am from crunchbang/openbox so all this crazy wm stuff is new to me =)
[20:44] <John_John_> what is sh mode in terminal ?
[20:45] <rannonga> its using the sh shell instead of bash
[20:45] <geirha> John_John_: Will need more context to answer that
[20:45] <John_John_> wow
[20:45] <geirha> "sh mode" is an odd name for it
[20:46] <geirha> something tells me it might be something else
[20:48] <geirha> John_John_: It might be referring to bash's posix mode. Again, without the context, this is only guesswork.
[20:48] <mikemonk> hello people
[20:48] <John_John_> what i mean is this
[20:48] <John_John_> i am on the terminal
[20:48] <John_John_> i write sh
[20:48] <John_John_> i press return
[20:49] <rannonga> sh shell
[20:49] <John_John_> then i get a $
[20:49] <John_John_> what mode is this ?
[20:49] <John_John_> what is sh shell ?
[20:49] <llutz> John_John_: you started a new shell "sh" which most likely is a link to dash (a posix conform shell)
[20:49] <geirha> right, you ran the sh shell, which is dash by default.
[20:49] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: if you type: sh           in the terminal it will run the default shell (/bin/sh) which is a symlink to dash.
[20:49] <geirha> John_John_: If you type exit, you'll get back to your default shell
[20:50] <John_John_> what is the difference of the default shell and the dash ?
[20:50] <rpcesar> having some issues could really use some help. I have a dual monitor setup. I use wine and one of the times I used wine it attempted to change the display settings. this shrunk the resolution of display monitor two, and removed the option for anything above 800x600 on it. so i disabled it thinking I would re-enable it
[20:50] <rannonga> bash is better
[20:50] <rpcesar> but now nothing, and i mean NOTHING is detecting that second monitor
[20:50] <llutz> John_John_: different shells
[20:50] <rpcesar> ive tried everything, including swapping lightvm and gdm
[20:51] <chiluk> John_John dash is faster for some purposes because it has fewer features
[20:51] <geirha> John_John_: dash is also a usable interactive shell, however the one in Ubuntu has many such features disabled, to make it faster for boot scripts and similar
[20:51] <nullfaith> When I run xephyr, to draw a window of 1920x1080, it does the same thing geirha. It stops short because of the gnome panel at the top, not allowing it to cover.
[20:51] <chiluk> jynx geirha
[20:51] <rpcesar> ive tried displays, i have 650GTX and I tried nvidia settings. everything is showing just 1 screen
[20:51] <rpcesar> i cannot get the 2nd monitor to switch on again
[20:51] <John_John_> is there a paticular reason to run things in dash ?
[20:51] <geirha> John_John_: But the main difference is that bash has many more features than dash
[20:52] <rww> John_John_: dash is faster, but has fewer features. bash is slower, but has more
[20:52] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: dash is a posix is very much the same as bash, but on;y features the posix compliant commands. it runs about 20 times faster, but is not user friendly. (no history, no backspace, no friendly prompt). its used for scripts rather than anything else
[20:52] <rww> John_John_: scripts that call /bin/sh are supposed to only use POSIX interfaces, which dash implements
[20:52] <rpcesar> any ideas people?
[20:52] <hitsujiTMO> s/dash is a posix/dash
[20:52] <nullfaith> geirha: So is there maybe a way to auto-hide/remove that gnome panel up top? Or a way to get xephyr to cover it?
[20:52] <leo-the-manic> Is there something special I should do when using dots in my hostname? Rabbitmq keeps failing to launch when connecting to "foo", but my hostname is "foo.bar.com"
[20:53] <John_John_> you keep saying POSIX. what is that ?
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> leo-the-manic: you should not have dots in your hostname(that reffers to your fullyqualified domain name instead)
[20:53] <llutz> John_John_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX  http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Bash_vs_dash
[20:53] <geirha> nullfaith: Yes, instead of having it run an xsession like gnome, you can have it run that one program you wanted to run. No window manager, no panels. I don't remember the syntax though. Would have to read the docs (like man-pages)
[20:54] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX
[20:54] <chiluk> John_John_  stick with bash for interactive shells you will be happier for it.
[20:54] <nullfaith> The man page for xephyr is like 4 lines, I did read it heh.
[20:54] <John_John_> ok guys really thanks for the explanations
[20:54] <leo-the-manic> hitsujiTMO: So is the hostname something I'm essentially free to make up? Or does it have to correspond to my domain name somehow?
[20:54] <geirha> nullfaith: oh wait, you mean the "outer" Xserver has the panel in the way?
[20:55] <chiluk> John_John_ if you really want to know about posix, I suggest google/wikipedia... it's really just a standards body...
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> leo-the-manic: yes it can be anything. but normally you would have it as the first part of the fqdn. i.e. if your fqdn is foo.bar.com then you'd have foo as hostname
[20:56] <hitsujiTMO> leo-the-manic: this will explain how you set up both http://askubuntu.com/questions/158957/how-to-set-the-fully-qualified-domain-name-in-12-04
[20:56] <geirha> John_John_: unix split into many different OSes over the years, and they all added new features, independantly, and so it became hard to move between them
[20:57] <hitsujiTMO> leo-the-manic: but if you wanted you could have: server1.foo.com as fdqn and nodejs as hostname
[20:57] <John_John_> aha
[20:57] <geirha> John_John_: On one system, you'd use this command, on another, you'd have to use that command to achieve the same, so POSIX was born as a way of getting a standard way of doing things.
[20:58] <John_John_> and i also know that most unix systems are proprietary also
[20:58] <geirha> John_John_: So POSIX says that sh should have at least this and that feature. As long as the shell at /bin/sh has those features, it's free to add any other features it may like.
[20:58] <John_John_> True64 for example
[20:59] <jcbjoe> guys can i install ubuntu on a nexus 7
[20:59] <geirha> John_John_: that's why both dash and bash are POSIX shells. They have that common subset of features. But since dash has much less (extended) features, it's much faster at loading.
[20:59] <jcbjoe> not ubuntu touch
[20:59] <attrapereves> I am unable to open firefox. I am getting this error since an upgrade this morning.
[20:59] <John_John_> geirha: now i got it right :)
[20:59] <attrapereves> GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[20:59] <attrapereves> Segmentation fault