[00:00] <erUSUL> !es | tuxoz
[00:00] <xim_> lol
[00:00] <MrHappy> loscher: i heard. and i gave you plenty of gratitude for your time even talking to me
[00:00] <elcaas> io hablo español
[00:00] <ascheel> skiwithpete: it's unknown, but you SHOULD be able to find the console that HAS the gparted session by following those instructions
[00:00] <MrHappy> loscher: lets leave it now eh?
[00:00] <ascheel> !es | elcaas
[00:00] <erUSUL> !pt | elcaas
[00:00] <losher> MrHappy: just wanted to make sure you understood your options is all....
[00:00] <ascheel> lol whoops.  Wasn't spanish
[00:01] <tuxoz> -.-? not spanish channel :(
[00:01] <erUSUL> tuxoz: join #ubuntu-es
[00:01] <skiwithpete> ascheel, sorry, am a noob, don't know what you mean...  what are you asking me to try to find?
[00:01] <elcaas> tuxoz
[00:01] <linuxguy2009> "tuxoz: -.-? not spanish channel" What gave it away? hehe
[00:01] <MrHappy> loscher: i did. i even wrote it down in my linux file! many thanks.  :)
[00:01] <elcaas> vamos al otro
[00:01] <tuxoz> como :D
[00:01] <losher> MrHappy: very good. Don't mind me.   Hit Ctrl-Alt-F2 through F12 until you find the console session that has your gparted running on it.
[00:02] <ascheel> skiwithpete: that will let you see exactly what's happening and if it's still working or not
[00:02] <tuxoz> hi
[00:02] <tuxoz> any play KO?
[00:02] <ascheel> !ot | tuxoz
[00:02] <skiwithpete> ascheel, I pressed CTRL ALT F1, then ran 'top'
[00:03] <Kangarooo> is there a equivelent programm to imgbin.org like pastebinit to pastebin.org?
[00:03] <skiwithpete> ascheel, that's where I see it running
[00:03] <skiwithpete> so if I press ctrl alt f2 what will happen and what am I looking for?
[00:03] <ascheel> skiwithpete: I know.  If you press Ctrl-Alt-F2, Ctrl-Alt-F3, etc, you will see that you can chance the current working session.  If gparted is running locally on that PC, you will find it still running and be able to interact with it.
[00:04] <Quincy> how can i find out at what locationo my souncdars is?
[00:05] <linuxguy2009> Hey guys gparted is a GTK app. Why would you see it in a terminal session? Am I wrong or missing something?
[00:05] <skiwithpete> ascheel, gnome GUI has crashed, that's why I went into ctrl alt f1.
[00:05] <skiwithpete> ctrl+alt+f7 brings up the crashed gnome.
[00:05] <elcaas> tuxuz
[00:05] <tuxoz> oz
[00:05] <tuxoz> dime?
[00:05] <tuxoz> ncontranst?
[00:05] <elcaas> de donde eres??
[00:05] <Pici> !es | elcaas tuxoz
[00:05] <[R]> linuxguy2009: see?
[00:06] <tuxoz> Peru
[00:06] <erUSUL> tuxoz: elcaas no podeis hablar español aqui. id a #ubuntu-es ya os dije como
[00:06] <elcaas> aaa ok
[00:06] <SHOOT3R> .com
[00:06] <tuxoz> need channel spanish , wait plz :D
[00:06] <linuxguy2009> Im an idiot and im just gonna shut up. hehe
[00:06] <Samuel> What's the Ubuntu package for the non-free driver manager tool called?
[00:06] <Quincy> how can i find out at what location my soundcard is?
[00:06] <erUSUL> elcaas: tuxoz escribid « /join #ubuntu-es » en el cleinte irc
[00:07] <MrHappy> loscher: how do i go about reporting the problem to the right people so that it might not be a continuing issue in further releases?  if i file a bug report on launchpad would that be appropriate?
[00:07] <rski> Quincy: look
[00:07] <erUSUL> Quincy: what do you mean by location ?
[00:07] <linuxguy2009> Samuel: Driver manager? What?
[00:07] <Samuel> linuxguy2009: The one which suggests people install proprietory drivers.
[00:07] <Quincy> erUSUL, like dev/shitinhere
[00:07] <[R]> Samuel: jockey
[00:07] <Samuel> Such as Nvidia driver.
[00:07] <erUSUL> Quincy: /dev/snd/*
[00:07] <adam1> what's the command to list my devices and such? (so i can find out what i'm running)
[00:07] <tuxoz> Thx erUSUL
[00:07] <Quincy> i need it to set up my shoutcast stuff
[00:07] <losher> MrHappy: I think so, I've never filed one myself....
[00:07] <tuxoz> bby all
[00:07] <Samuel> [R]: Thanks.
[00:07] <erUSUL> !language | Quincy
[00:07] <linuxguy2009> Samuel: You mean the one under System, administration, hardware drivers?
[00:08] <Samuel> linuxguy2009: Yes.
[00:08] <Kangarooo> losher, is there a equivelent programm to imgbin.org like pastebinit to pastebin.org?
[00:08] <linuxguy2009> Samuel: cool
[00:08] <Quincy> yea that erUSUL that /dev/snd/* and sorrry fot my language
[00:08] <MrHappy> loscher: ok, thanks. bye
[00:08] <losher> Kangarooo: I don't know of one. It wouldn't take much to write one...
[00:08] <erUSUL> Quincy: no problem
[00:08] <losher> MrHappy: see ya' round...
[00:08] <Samuel> linuxguy2009: It doesn't suggest an alternate wireless driver, though. :(
[00:08] <adam1> what's the command to list my devices and such? (so i can find out what i'm running)
[00:08] <iovis> hi everyone
[00:09] <Pici> adam1: sudo lshw
[00:09] <linuxguy2009> Samuel: Yeah well Ubuntu is what Ubuntu is.  Sorry man.
[00:09] <[R]> Samuel: what makes you think there is one?
[00:09] <linuxguy2009> Samuel: Most drivers are in the kernel.
[00:09] <Quincy> hmm erusul:  how do i find the exact location?:p i need to set it in a .lst fie
[00:09] <Quincy> file*
[00:09] <iovis> does any1 knows how can i run Java chats?
[00:10] <linuxguy2009> iovis: You mean java chat for a web site?
[00:10] <iovis> yup
[00:10] <Samuel> [R]: I'm just trying different things to try and fix my problem.
[00:10] <erUSUL> Quincy: ls -al /dev/snd/* ?
[00:10] <linuxguy2009> iovis: Not sure if this a great place to get help with that. But ive been wrong before.
[00:10] <Quincy> thx
[00:10] <Samuel> [R]: Because this problem is getting right on my tits.
[00:10] <bernardlychan> can splashy work on kde?
[00:10] <elcaas> tuxoz
[00:10] <elcaas> bye
[00:10] <iovis> i try swfdec-mozilla thing and likes but it wont work at all
[00:11] <Quincy> damnit erUSUL i got several locations now
[00:11] <Quincy> how do i know what one to use
[00:11] <bernardlychan> hey guys does splasy work on KDE?
[00:11] <Pici> iovis: Why would using flash fix a java problem?
[00:11] <Pici> !java | iovis
[00:11] <linuxguy2009> iovis: Yeah this really isnt a web developers room.
[00:11] <Samuel> bernardlychan: Splashy has nothing to do with KDE.
[00:11] <adam1> Pici: there was another one.. " grep | " <- something like that.
[00:11] <bernardlychan> is there an alterntive for kde Samuel?
[00:11] <Pici> adam1: grep is just for searching for strings, it has nothing to do with hardware
[00:12] <iovis> ok, ill try that, thnx
[00:12] <bernardlychan> when i want to install splashy, it says it must remove KDE
[00:12] <Samuel> bernardlychan: Splashy is boot up visuals.
[00:12] <Samuel> bernardlychan: That cant be right...
[00:12] <bernardlychan> synaptics says it must remove kubuntu-desktop
[00:12] <Pici> bernardlychan: usplash is what k/ubuntu uses, not splashy.
[00:12] <adam1> right, right... but i used before to list my hardware and such to find out my eth card, etc. <- pici
[00:13] <Pici> adam1: lspci?
[00:13] <Samuel> [R] linuxguy2009: Could upgrading from linux-image-generic from <IP_ADDRESS>.17 to <IP_ADDRESS>.18 fix the problem?
[00:14] <adam1> thanks, Pici.
[00:14] <[R]> Samuel: i have no idea what your "problem" is... but <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> isn't really gonna fix much
[00:14] <linuxguy2009> Samuel: Well if its indeed a driver issue, which I would assume it is, then you would need to look at the release info for that kernel and see if it introduces any new hardware support if any at all.
[00:15] <Vonoff> hi
[00:15] <Vonoff> anyone here using globalmenu?
[00:15] <Quincy> erusul this is what i got:
[00:15] <Quincy> crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 7 2009-07-18 18:18 /dev/snd/controlC0
[00:15] <Quincy> crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 6 2009-07-19 00:36 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
[00:15] <Quincy> crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 5 2009-07-19 00:36 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[00:15] <FloodBot3> Quincy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:15] <Quincy> crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 4 2009-07-18 18:18 /dev/snd/pcmC0D1p
[00:15] <Quincy> crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 3 2009-07-18 18:18 /dev/snd/pcmC0D2c
[00:15] <arleslie> Would installing ubuntu on an extended ext3 partition cause windows not to boot
[00:15] <linuxguy2009> Samuel: I dont have any knowledge of kernels and updating them.Never had to.
[00:15] <jetblast> hi guys, i cant get java to run on any of my browsers on 9.04
[00:15] <rski> arleslie: yes
[00:15] <rww> arleslie: shouldn't do, no. I have that setup and it works just fine.
[00:16] <linuxguy2009> Vonoff: I have global menu installed and have tried it. Its like the OSX menu.
[00:16] <erUSUL> Quincy: you have to tell us what you need the raw sound device for
[00:16] <arleslie> rski: Any idea how to fix that with out formating windows
[00:16] <linuxguy2009> Vonoff: Have a question about it?
[00:16] <Samuel> [R]: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1153238.html
[00:16] <losher> !grub
[00:16] <CHeCHoV> how init the samba service automatically before login screen ubuntu?
[00:16] <Quincy> erUSUL i am going to broadcast ta webradio
[00:16] <Vonoff> linuxguy2009, are you using the latest svn checkout?
[00:16] <jetblast> can anyone help me get java to work with my firefox?
[00:17] <[R]> Samuel: yeah... not a fan or having to read forum links
[00:17] <erUSUL> jetblast: install the sun-java6-plugin package
[00:17] <linuxguy2009> Vonoff: Im using 0.7.5
[00:17] <Vonoff> meh
[00:17] <Samuel> [R]: http://pastebin.com/m2592da29
[00:17] <[R]> Samuel: whats there?
[00:17] <Vonoff> linuxguy2009, i have issues compiling latest trunk. it complains about missing files
[00:17] <Samuel> [R]: dmesg log
[00:17] <uknown> is there a way to figure out is all he drivers for u hardware are installed correctly
[00:17] <CHeCHoV> how init the samba service automatically before login screen ubuntu?
[00:17] <uknown> the*
[00:17] <[R]> Samuel: whats the problem
[00:17] <jetblast> how do i get to root? i get permission denied
[00:18] <losher> CHeCHoV: is it a laptop?
[00:18] <[R]> uknown: is something not working?
[00:18] <Quincy> so erusul can ya help?
[00:18] <jetblast> its been happening alot
[00:18] <furius82> ubuntu italia?
[00:18] <linuxguy2009> Vonoff: Hmm I never build anything. Ive never had to. Im not much help with that topic.
[00:18] <defectiv> to create a directory than any user can see into and cd into, but cannot alter, don't you have to make its permissions be 1777?
[00:18] <[R]> jetblast: sudo
[00:18] <sebsebseb> !it |  furius82
[00:18] <erUSUL> Quincy: what software are you configuring ?
[00:18] <Quincy> erUSUL: Shoutcast DSP
[00:18] <Samuel> [R]: "My wireless in Jaunty will work incredibly fast for a while and then once it hits a certain amount of data transfered it just stops working altogether and I have to reboot to get it to work again. It still says I'm connected, it still shows networks, it just doesn't transfer an data. If i don't download anything big it will stay working indefinitely, but when the megabytes start flying it tanks... religiously."
[00:18] <[R]> defectiv: give it read and exec perms but not write perms
[00:18] <jetblast> omg i forgot sudo lol
[00:18] <Samuel> [R]: That's exactly my problem.
[00:18] <[R]> Samuel: weird... you should file a bug report
[00:19] <Samuel> [R]: A big report won't solve my problem tonight.
[00:19] <jetblast> [R]: what is the exact name of the package?
[00:19] <linuxguy2009> Samuel: Maybe manually limit the bandwidth and see if you can fix it that way?
[00:19] <netsurf3>  having problems with ubuntu 9.04, two different headsets same problem that the audio appears to not be resampled correctly. The headset supports a rate of 8000 but from what i can tell alsa sends as stereo 41000. -Dplug:bluetooth option causes it to sound like i am listening to a noisy 56k modem (makes things worse)
[00:19] <[R]> jetblast: what package?
[00:19] <jetblast> [R]: Java6
[00:19] <erUSUL> Quincy: maybe you need to pass the old OSS "/dev/dsp" device. try with that "/dev/dsp"
[00:19] <[R]> jetblast: how should i know
[00:19] <Pici> !java | jetblast
[00:19] <Samuel> linuxguy2009: I could limit the bandwidth... but then I can get my super fast downloading done.
[00:20] <Samuel> linuxguy2009: So it kind of defeats the object.
[00:20] <linuxguy2009> netsurf3: Are you speaking of a bluetooth audio device?
[00:20] <netsurf3> yes
[00:20] <jetblast> looks like i already installed the java6 JRE package
[00:20] <norc_> Mhm, xorg reporting a segfault in the libc in Ubuntu 9.04 with no backports or testing packages seems kinda odd, eh?
[00:20] <netsurf3> linuxguy2009, they are generic HSP compatible bluetooth headsets
[00:21] <linuxguy2009> netsurf3: 8,000 is very low audio quality. 44,100 is standard CD quality.In case you didnt know.
[00:21] <Quincy> radio@quincy-desktop:~/Bureaublad$ ls -al /dev/dsp
[00:21] <Quincy> crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14, 3 2009-07-18 18:18 /dev/dsp
[00:21] <Quincy> that one
[00:21] <Quincy> ?
[00:21] <erUSUL> Quincy: that one
[00:21] <Quincy> okay
[00:21] <Samuel> linuxguy2009: I might as well be off then if I can't get the problem solved. :(
[00:21] <Quincy> so now to create a lst file
[00:21] <Quincy> i need elp with that too
[00:21] <Quincy> can ya help me with that too?
[00:21] <erUSUL> norc_: bad ram ? memtest ?
[00:22] <defectiv> [R]: then how will that user create e.g. /var/www/my_rails_app?
[00:22] <netsurf3> linuxguy2009, yeah i knew roughly but like i said these are cheap HSP/voice bluetooth headsets
[00:22] <linuxguy2009> netsurf3: If you have stuttering and/or noise, you may have to set it to use the native sample rate.
[00:22] <netsurf3> linuxguy2009, how can i do that exactly?
[00:22] <erUSUL> Quincy: never done that... not even know what that file is for... i'm sure there is some how to you can follow out there
[00:22] <[R]> defectiv: you just siad you dindt want them to "alter"
[00:22] <netsurf3> linuxguy2009, been looking for a way to force resampling to its native rate
[00:23] <Vorondil> Quick question: I updated this machine from 8.10 to 9.04 today, and my compose key is back to being a context menu.  I tried adding an Option "XkbOptions" "compose:menu" to my xorg.conf, but I still get a context menu.  `setxkbmap -option "compose:menu"`, on the other hand, works.  My xorg.conf is here: http://nopaste.com/p/aSWJZYlOD  Any direction would be appreciated.
[00:23] <linuxguy2009> netsurf3: Try several of the standard sample rates such as 44100, 22050, 48000 etc.
[00:23] <defectiv> [R]: not alter the directory itself, right. but be able to put stuff INTO it.
[00:23] <defectiv> [R]: i believe it's 1777.
[00:23] <netsurf3> linuxguy2009, how do i force this?
[00:23] <[R]> defectiv: what does "alter" mean then?
[00:23] <defectiv> then the user can alter anything inside of that directory that he has permissions to alter, and even delete that stuff. but cannot delete the directory itself.
[00:23] <linuxguy2009> netsurf3: I have a USB headset I use with gtkrecordmydesktop and I have to set it to its native 48000 and then the static and chopping disappear.
[00:23] <netsurf3> alsa appears to not do this by its self
[00:23] <defectiv> [R]: chmod rm etc.
[00:23] <linuxguy2009> netsurf3: Not sure.
[00:24] <defectiv> you can alter what's INSIDE that directory, but not that directory.
[00:24] <uknown> is there a what to see if ur drivers are installed correctly
[00:24] <sixdraw> Hi all, I set up my s-video connection from my nvidia card to my tv's rca connection today. The only problem is I'm only getting black and white picture. I have a NVidia Geforce 6600. I've worked out that what I need to do is get composite output somehow but I can't find a setting for this. Anybody know how? Thanks
[00:24] <linuxguy2009> netsurf3: Are you trying to record into an application or what exactly?
[00:24] <[R]> defectiv: only the owner can chmod a directory... and only someone with write perms to the owner directory can remove something in it
[00:25] <netsurf3> linuxguy2009, short term i'd just like to have a portable microphone and speaker for a netbook or something, long term: skype
[00:26] <MattPhilie> What do you recommend to use that i like iTunes but for Ubuntu..?
[00:26] <linuxguy2009> netsurf3: Ok so I have never used bluetooth before, but if it makes the headset show up as a standard sound device, you should be able to simply go into the system, preferences, sound and select the bluetooth device as a recording source. and then simply use the volume mixer window to adjust levels and dynamic compression etc.
[00:26] <[R]> MattPhilie: i use rhythmbox
[00:26] <defectiv> [R]: if you set the directory's perms to anything that would allow a user to create files/directories with in it, then he'd also be able to rm chmod it.
[00:27] <linuxguy2009> MattPhilie: I have an ipod and I love gtkpod for transfering music, gpixpod for photos, easytag for tagging.
[00:27] <sixdraw> nobody know how to get composite tv out on nvidia cards?
[00:27] <Nielsen> sixdraw, you need a colorfix s-video plug...
[00:27] <[R]> defectiv: you've lost me... but whatever
[00:27] <defectiv> if /var/www is chown root.root, and you want to enable some user to create e.g. /var/www/his_rails_app, then you have to give "other" write permissions.
[00:27] <netsurf3> linuxguy2009, it does not always show up. i have virtually everything working with the headset just the huge intollerable audio sampling problem
[00:27] <sebsebseb> MattPhilie: gtkpod
[00:27] <netsurf3> the static is overwhelming
[00:27] <sebsebseb> !itunes |  MattPhilie
[00:28] <Nielsen> sixdraw, http://www.sandberg.it/product.aspx?id=503-65
[00:28] <linuxguy2009> netsurf3: Ok in whatever app your using it with will probably have the actuall sample rate selection.
[00:28] <sixdraw> Nielsen, thank you
[00:28] <Nielsen> i have one myself :)
[00:28] <Nielsen> sixdraw, you're welcome :)
[00:29] <fwaokda> I have the gnome desktop panel with expand off is there away to get the handles on both sides to go away? it kinda ruins the panel w/ transparency on
[00:29] <defectiv> [R]: Sticky bit. It was used to trigger process to "stick" in memory after it is finished, now this usage is obsolete. Currently its use is system dependant and it is mostly used to suppress deletion of the files that belong to other users in the folder where you have "write" access to.
[00:29] <[R]> defectiv: ok... and?
[00:29] <bernardlychan> is there a good alternative to splashy?
[00:29] <sixdraw> Nielsen, and your sure this is the only way? because I've managed to get colour out from my laptop to my lcd tv, but cant get it from my pc
[00:29] <Pici> !usplash | bernardlychan
[00:29] <dariva> anyone from Germany
[00:29] <Pici> !de | dariva
[00:30] <bernardlychan> usplash doesn't have as good themes though.
[00:30] <Nielsen> sixdraw: no, but im 95% sure thats the reason
[00:30] <dariva> !de
[00:30] <TSlackM> All of the sudden Pcm wount work over spdif, dolby and dts sure works fine, but no pcm sound?, anyone got any tips?
[00:30] <sixdraw> Nielsen, then again the laptop is an ati graphics card
[00:30] <sixdraw> Nielsen, okay thanks
[00:30] <Kangarooo> anyboy knows is there a equivelent programm to imgbin.org like pastebinit to pastebin.org?
[00:31] <linuxguy2009> Ok later people!
[00:31] <Nielsen> sixdraw, if you read the description on that page, and it applys to you. then yes, thats the reason
[00:31] <VCoolio> Kangarooo: I have a nautilus-script for imageshack; want it?
[00:32] <swoody> can anyone help me out? I had to shutdown GDM to install a video card driver, and now after rebooting, it still puts me in a CLI. I tried starting GDM again, and it started fine, but tty7 still just shows a flashing cursor?
[00:33] <salvadorfl> hello  does any one knows how to record my voice? i am using Ubuntu 9.04
[00:33] <[R]> swoody: um... what video driver did you install that requried that? because it was the wrong one if it required you to do that
[00:33] <swoody> [R]:  I downloaded the latest CUDA driver from the website
[00:34] <defectiv> [R]:  and nothing. i was just explaining.
[00:34] <Kangarooo> VCoolio, yes
[00:34] <swoody> [R]:  to install you have to shutdown xserver, and then install
[00:34] <[R]> defectiv: explaining what?
[00:34] <[R]> swoody: installing random drivers from random websites isn't a good idea if you want to get support
[00:35] <swoody> [R]:  it's not a random driver, and it's from Nvidia's website ?
[00:35] <[R]> swoody: and its not really supportede
[00:35] <VCoolio> Kangarooo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/221490/
[00:35] <swoody> [R]:  ok, thanks for the help
[00:36] <shorterror> ok so i am working on learning to program well i was looking into perl and was wondering what i should use to for coding in perl?
[00:36] <[R]> shorterror: a text editor
[00:36] <Nielsen> salvadorfl, the gnome-media-common package has a gnome-sound-recorder
[00:36] <shorterror> [R], ok what about useing activeperl also ?
[00:37] <salvadorfl> is anybody able to do voice recording on ubuntu jaunty?
[00:37] <shorterror> salvadorfl, i am able to
[00:37] <salvadorfl> sorry for my english
[00:37] <Nielsen> salvadorfl, yes, i use the gnome sound-recorder
[00:37] <[R]> shorterror: no clue what activeperl is
[00:38] <salvadorfl> i am gonna try
[00:38] <shorterror> [R],  ok ty.
[00:38] <bruenig> shorterror: vim
[00:38] <raviucf> I can see my Quickcam Messenger Communicate when I run "lsusb" but there is no /dev/video although there is /dev/audio from the camera. Any clues in how to get /dev/video to work? I have already modprobe quickcam_messenger
[00:38] <shorterror> bruenig, ok ty.
[00:38] <Kangarooo> VCoolio, how to name it? and how will it work?
[00:38] <pedestrianentran> lspci gives my graphics card as "Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)". How can i find what driver i should be using with ubuntu? Google earth is running very poorly
[00:39] <lonely> look at dmeg output
[00:39] <lonely> smesg
[00:39] <[R]> pedestrianentran: there really is only 1 driver... and you're already using it
[00:39] <lonely> dmesg
[00:39] <pedestrianentran> [R]: are there any settings i can tweak to improve the poor google earth performance?
[00:39] <[R]> pedestrianentran: i'm sure there are tons... you should check the wiki and the forums
[00:40] <pedestrianentran> [R]: ok which wiki?
[00:40] <VCoolio> Kangarooo: name whatever you like; copy to ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts and run "chmod +x /path/to/script" and it will show up in context menu in nautilus
[00:40] <bruenig> pedestrianentran: google earth is going to perform poorly because it is not native
[00:40] <[R]> pedestrianentran: the ubuntu website...
[00:40] <armada> !log
[00:41] <abyrne55> hey! A new channel has opened for ubuntu help and talk: #ubuntu-lovers. Try it out
[00:41] <pedestrianentran> bruenig: i got it going really well on another machine running ubuntu.... just by selecting a proprietry graphics driver
[00:41] <sebsebseb> abyrne55: you need to do ## if  it's not an offical channel
[00:42] <sebsebseb> abyrne55: also you shoudn't advertise it here
[00:42] <Kangarooo> VCoolio, so i then right click image and send to yes? or it will also have context enty "Take screenshot and upload and open link or copy link?"
[00:42] <Kangarooo> VCoolio, and is your script in nautilus script website?
[00:43] <VCoolio> Kangarooo: it's not my script and I probably took it from gnome-look.org
[00:43] <twig11> Would someone please take a look at these instructions http://dsandler.org/wp/archives/2007/06/27/ubuntu-dwl-g120 and tell me if I'm missing something that would cause my system to freeze when I reboot with the wireless card plugged in?
[00:43] <VCoolio> Kangarooo: in context menu select "scripts", it's in there like you named it
[00:45] <dhaval_> Yeah there isn't any volume leveling in Ubuntu
[00:45] <dhaval_> Not going to shout. Just going to download my songs...
[00:46] <dhaval_> But I have to ask, why isn't there volume leveling in an OS? I have the same problem in my cell phone.
[00:47] <dtchen> because that's not the purvey of the operating system [driver]
[00:47] <dtchen> some applications have volume ramping (see pulseaudio 0.9.15+)
[00:48] <dtchen> and there is replaygain for some audio files
[00:48] <VCoolio> Kangarooo: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/sendToImageshack?content=100952
[00:48] <Zencyde> What tool should I use to autoconfigure GRUB to boot Windows XP?
[00:49] <bucky> dhaval_: what kind of song files?
[00:50] <dhaval_> normal song files
[00:50] <bucky> dhaval_: MP3 ?
[00:50] <dhaval_> yeah mp3, m4a, mp4
[00:50] <dhaval_> etc, etc
[00:50] <bucky> dhaval_: why didn't you look into this and install mp3gain or some other some such program to fix this?
[00:50] <dhaval_> Now I know there's a difference between the formats, and the quality
[00:50] <dhaval_> mp3gain is for windows only right?
[00:51] <dhaval_> and I think i've tried it before, didn't work.
[00:51] <dhaval_> And something tells me I shouldn't do it agian.
[00:51] <bucky> dhaval_: mp3gain is in the repos
[00:51] <dhaval_> Alright, i'll try that.
[00:51] <dhaval_> The xstream thingi didn't work
[00:51] <bucky> dhaval_: just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it doesnt work
[00:51] <dhaval_> I was sure it did, but tried it for different songs and no.
[00:52] <bucky> dhaval_: are you going to be  in here crying about this for another 3 hours?
[00:52] <pedestrianentran> fyi google earth on ubuntu is running SWEET as soon as i turned off the atmosphere.................
[00:52] <dhaval_> Yes I know, but, given the fact that this problems exists in my phone AND Computer
[00:52] <adriana> Google Earth is very slow and is not rendering. I know i it has to run i my PC because when i had WinXp it did work.
[00:52] <dhaval_> I don't know, if you don't want me to cry I won't. But just keep giving me ideas ok?
[00:52] <Zencyde> No one can help me with my grub problem? :)
[00:52] <dhaval_> What problem?
[00:53] <k44d33> adriana: try updating your display drivers
[00:53] <bucky> dhaval_: what does your phone have to do with ubuntu
[00:53] <Zencyde> I'm not sure which tool to use to autoconfigure GRUB to support Windows XP. Or rather, to rewrite menu.list.
[00:53] <luca> adriana: maybe it is a 3d issue, have you got an ati or nvidia card?
[00:53] <Zencyde> Or was it boot.config?
[00:53] <adriana> I know i have VIA video card, and I have installed openchrome
[00:54] <dhaval_> Well, for one thing it also runs linux. 2: I have the same normalization problem with my phone's mp3 player
[00:54] <bucky> dhaval_: use google, look in the repos for audio file manipulation programs and use your brains
[00:54] <luca> Zencyde: it is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:54] <dhaval_> I did use google, at from what I found one can conclude that there isn't any help for me.
[00:54] <Zencyde> luca: Should I edit it by hand or should I use a tool to do it?
[00:54] <bruenig> sebsebseb: giggle eh?
[00:54] <dhaval_> I'm going to look for mp3gain
[00:55] <dhaval_> brb
[00:55] <luca> Zencyde: before doing anything explain me what have you done so far
[00:56] <adriana> I dont have ATI nor nVidia
[00:56] <Zencyde> luca: I have Windows XP freshly installed on another drive. /dev/sdb/ I would like to be able to boot into it using GRUB so that I don't have to change my boot order to boot into Windows from time to time. What would be the recommended method for configuring GRUB?
[00:57] <bucky> dhaval_: again?  why didn't you apt-cache show mp3gain three hours ago when i told you
[00:57] <luca> ok Zencyde, the tool SHOULD be grub-update
[00:57] <Zencyde> Ah, thank you. Run as su?
[00:57] <bucky> dhaval_: also look at sox ..it's been around forever
[00:57] <luca> but I'll say that it does not work everytime
[00:58] <dhaval_> I was busy then and ok, i'll look for sox
[00:58] <dhaval_> But I just had another idea
[00:58] <dhaval_> Audacity!
[00:58] <k44d33> yay
[00:58] <bucky> dhaval_: all this is very faq and doc on the internet try google sound files+volume+linux
[00:58] <sebsebseb> bruenig: that channel, no silly
[00:58] <Zencyde> luca: grub-update doesn't seem to be a command. :o
[00:58] <dhaval_> Didn't find anything on google, YET but i'm looking
[00:59] <luca> so, Zencyde: to avoid any trouble i'll say you have a look in the menu.lst, after all you have only to add a stanza
[00:59] <Zencyde> Indeed. I'm just not in the mood for trial and error. Any idea what my entry should be? Should be on partition 0.
[01:01] <adriana> How can I see if my video card is workig properly with Google Earth?
[01:01] <luca> Zencyde: well, you know, since it's on device sdb and i'm assuming xp being on the 1st partition, you can add at the tail of /boot/grub/menu.lst the following
[01:01] <luca> title Windows XP
[01:01] <luca> root   (hd1,0)
[01:01] <luca> makeactive
[01:01] <luca> chainloader +1
[01:01] <FloodBot3> luca: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:01] <[R]> adriana: start it... if it works... then its working
[01:02] <luca> adriana: try glxgears first
[01:02] <adriana> I can see the three gears
[01:02] <Zencyde> luca: Thank you. :) I'll come back if there are any problems. If not, thanks!
[01:02] <luca> adriana: is it working "acceptably"?
[01:03] <luca> Zencyde: remember that every time a new kernel is added, grub is modified
[01:03] <Juano> hello, can someone give me some help?
[01:03] <adriana> But Google Earth is very slow and the planet if apears y no rendered properly
[01:03] <Zencyde> luca: Yeah. I feel like deleting those entries. :(
[01:04] <Zencyde> Bye, L(
[01:04] <Zencyde> :)
[01:04] <luca> Zencyde: just add again the xp entry if it disappears
[01:04] <durt> Juano, just ask
[01:04] <qkgus> does anyone know how to make a bg fixed in nautilus??
[01:04] <qkgus> background
[01:04] <Juano> thank you durt
[01:04] <luca> adriana: what fps are you getting in glxgears?
[01:04] <Juano> durt: I am installing an epson TX300f multifunctional
[01:05] <adriana> 799 in 5.0 seconds
[01:05] <luca> adriana: have you tried to disable compiz?
[01:05] <powergoal3> How do i change the default keymap settings in Ubuntu 9.04 ?
[01:05] <Juano> durt:I've already installed the printer and it worked fine
[01:05] <TheMasterofHatea> :)
[01:05] <dhaval_> Hey bucky, why do people hate SongBird?
[01:05] <Juano> durt: but I have some problems installing the scanner
[01:05] <[R]> powergoal3: system -> preferences -> keyboard
[01:06] <ctmjr> coz_: by chance do you write cairo-dock themes?
[01:06] <adriana> No, because I dont know what it is, or if it will affect other parts of Ubuntu
[01:06] <luca> adriana: that means, system->preference->appearance and none
[01:06] <coz_> ctmjr,  yes  I do
[01:06] <powergoal3> [R]: How do you do it from terminal?
[01:06] <fuzzybunny69y> Does anyone know anything I could do to fix my sound for some reason it keeps cutting out eventually. Like I will be listening to music in Rhythmbox or watching a video in Totem and it will play a couple songs or play a video and then when i skip a few songs or just let it keep playing eventually it just freezes the program and my sound stops working.
[01:06] <ctmjr> !cookie | coz_  only theme i use
[01:07] <coz_> ctmjr,  oh  which theme are you using?
[01:07] <ctmjr> coz_: rings
[01:07] <luca> adriana: no, ubuntu by default ships with "nice 3d effects" enabled, but some 3d apps like google earth eat much more horsepower so disabling those ubuntu desktop effects can give the app the power it needs
[01:07] <VCoolio> powergoal3: setxkbmap
[01:07] <coz_> ctmjr,  ah ok  cool :)
[01:08] <Kangarooo> fuzzybunny69y, that look like a bug. report to launchpad.
[01:08] <michealb22linux> hello
[01:08] <adriana> How do i disable Compz?
[01:08] <luca> adriana: that means, system->preference->appearance and none
[01:08] <coz_> adriana,   gnome or kde?
[01:08] <m3ga> problem : local machine running gnome, i can  start stuff from the menus, but if i start something from a terminal window i get 'No protocol specified, unable to open display ":0.0"'. wtf?
[01:08] <fuzzybunny69y> Kangarooo, I think it has been reported since there are a ton of staticy sound issues with Pulseaudio but I can't seem to figure out if it has been fixed or not
[01:08] <luca> adriana: that means, system->preference->appearance->visual effects and none
[01:08] <fwaokda> I have the gnome desktop panel with expand off is there away to get the handles on both sides to go away? it kinda ruins the panel w/ transparency on
[01:08] <powergoal3> VCoolio: is that a permanent change?
[01:08] <dhaval_> luca: I think she still wants desktop effects, just not too special ones.
[01:09] <adriana> I have lots of tabs, the last one is in minimun
[01:09] <luca> dhaval_: let's see if google earth runs better
[01:09] <VCoolio> powergoal3: not sure but I think no; don't sue me for it; read "man setxkbmap" to be sure
[01:09] <dhaval_> yeh...
[01:09] <luca> adriana, select the visual effect tab
[01:10] <adriana> It is set to No visual effects
[01:10] <hilaire> Sometimes you may need to reinstall Windows on your computer.
[01:10] <hilaire> If you have a dual boot windows / linux, the windows will reinstall the original MBR (from windows) and Grub will be uninstalled.
[01:10] <hilaire> This tutorial explains how to reinstall grub without reinstalling linux.
[01:10] <hilaire> To do this, you need to bring your live Linux installation CD (like Ubuntu).
[01:10] <FloodBot3> hilaire: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:10] <hilaire> Boot from the CD and choose the "Start or Install Ubuntu" option.
[01:10] <hilaire> Open a Terminal ( Applications >> Accessories >> Terminal ), and type:
[01:10] <Mion>  /buffer close
[01:10] <Mion> bha
[01:10]  * MenZa pets FloodBot3
[01:11] <michealb22linux> Hello
[01:11] <luca> hmhm
[01:11] <coz_> ctmjr,   we also have the #cairo-dock channel in case you needed any support
[01:11] <luca> adriana: can you see what "glxinfo | grep direct" returns in terminal?
[01:11] <masterofhate> :)
[01:11] <ctmjr> coz_: oh ok thanks
[01:12] <coz_> ctmjr,  no problem  that saves  off topic conversations here :)
[01:12] <hilaire> system>preferences>keybord
[01:12] <adriana> i: Force an indirect rendering context.
[01:13] <qkgus> hey, does anyone know how to get a fixed background image in the nautilus file viewer, instead of repeated?
[01:13] <adriana> Sorry, it says -i: Force an indirect rendering context.
[01:13] <michealb22linux> can any tell me how to get flash 10 to work in opera?
[01:13] <luca> adriana: it should say "direct rendering: Yes"
[01:14] <dhaval_> Alright, this is too much. I think i'll call it a night. Thanks a lot bucky you've been a great help.
[01:14] <hereAndThere> hello all, sorry for the interruption, but is this where the gurus at ?
[01:14] <dhaval_> I hope I didn't make you pull all your hair off, i'll see you later
[01:14] <adriana> That means that I am screwed?
[01:14] <dhaval_> thanks again bucky
[01:14] <dhaval_> quit
[01:15] <xcdfgkjhgcv> Is there a channel for the UNR subdistro?
[01:15] <luca> adriana: in fact your glxgears has very low fps, on my intel laptop i have 1062.682 FPS
[01:15] <xcdfgkjhgcv> luca: My glxgears is about 60
[01:15] <xcdfgkjhgcv> luca: Yet I can play really graphically intensive games.
[01:15] <coz_> xcdfgkjhgcv,  if you type   /join #nameof channel  to check
[01:16] <qkgus> hey, does anyone know how to get a fixed background image in the nautilus file viewer, instead of repeated?
[01:16] <xcdfgkjhgcv> coz_: I've tried #ubuntu-unr
[01:16] <luca> xcdfgkjhgcv: on a via card?
[01:16] <coz_> mm
[01:16] <xcdfgkjhgcv> luca: Nvidia
[01:16] <nsahoo> hi .. I think I am running out of video card memory. Every once after a while of opening a few large windows looks like the wm is restarting and resuming in the minimal animation mode
[01:16] <xcdfgkjhgcv> luca: I have vsync turned on. :)
[01:16] <luca> funny that
[01:16] <luca> ahhhh
[01:16] <luca> :)
[01:16] <coz_> xcdfgkjhgcv,  might not exist then
[01:16] <nsahoo> is there a way I can check the amount of video card ram being used now?
[01:16] <xcdfgkjhgcv> luca: Without vsync, things look HORRIBLE on my LCD monitor.
[01:17] <hipitihop> what is considered the best sip based voip client for ubuntu
[01:17] <adriana> So, there is no way I can run GE?
[01:17] <nsahoo> There are not a lot of windows open, only 7
[01:17] <Pyrophelia> anybody here fluent with apache 2 config files?
[01:17] <luca> adriana: well, first you have to make sure the via driver is loaded
[01:17] <armada> how do I log on as root?
[01:17] <luca> adriana: after that, you can blame the driver
[01:17] <michealb22linux> any one know how to get flash 10. to work with the latest version of opera/
[01:18] <luca> Pyrophelia: yes I am
[01:18] <[R]> armada: you don't
[01:18] <adriana> HEhehe, how can I know if i have the proper diver loaded?
[01:18] <armada> hum so how do I edit a file? [R]?
[01:18] <Pyrophelia> luca, My objective is to configure apache so that every user on my machine has his or her own subdomain ie: user1.mydomain.com, user2.mydomain.com, user3.mydomain.com.  What is this called and what should I be reading to acomplish this?
[01:18] <[R]> armada: you can use sudo
[01:19] <Pyrophelia> luca, i've done it before, but it's been awhile since i've messed with apahce
[01:19] <armada> but I cant load the text processor form terminal :$
[01:19] <luca> Pyrophelia: you can have a thing like mydomain.com/~user1
[01:19] <[R]> Pyrophelia: you should read the apache documentation
[01:19] <[R]> armada: huh?
[01:19] <armada> whats th comand to edit a file?
[01:19] <thiebaude_> armada, i use gedit
[01:19] <luca> armada: nano
[01:20] <luca> or vim or vi
[01:20] <hereAndThere> i'm having a problem where my box just freezes and the caps lock and num lock falshes .. can anyone help
[01:20] <hereAndThere> ?
[01:20] <luca> from terminal i mean :)
[01:20] <coz_> armada,  or   sudo gedit nameand location of fule
[01:20] <Pyrophelia> luca, yes I know about ~user configs, but i'd prefer user1.mydomain.com user2.mydomain.com.  is this discouraged?
[01:20] <luca> Pyrophelia: no, it is not discouraged: but it is related to virtual servers
[01:20] <luca> let's say i have domain.com
[01:21] <luca> you can have apache serving different directories for each virtual server
[01:21] <Pyrophelia> ah
[01:21] <Pyrophelia> virtual servers
[01:21] <Pyrophelia> that's what it was called I couldn't remember
[01:21] <hereAndThere> am i on queue ? :P
[01:21] <luca> if i request luca.ubuntu.org and i have a virtual server that responds to that request instructred to take the files from /home/luca/.www
[01:22] <Pyrophelia> luca, yeap that was exactly what I am trying acomplish.  ty.  I'm off to apache docs now :P
[01:23] <luca> hereAndThere: sorry, what did u ask for before? :P
[01:23] <luca> ah
[01:24] <luca> no hereAndThere i can't help you unless pointing you to the /var/log directory and see if in those files you spot any errors
[01:24] <myself> hey does anyone know sudo apt-get package name for all the unicode fonts and stuff?
[01:24] <MenZa> ...which ones, specifcally, myself?
[01:24] <myself> i want all of them
[01:25] <MenZa> Er, try looking at apt-cache search unicode | grep -i font
[01:25] <MenZa> or Something similar
[01:25] <luca> unicode fonts?
[01:25] <coz_> myself,  or open synapitc  and hit search and type in unicode
[01:25] <myself> i typed unicode
[01:25] <myself> quite a bunch of packages popped up
[01:25] <luca> i bet you mean locale support
[01:26] <luca> aka utf-8
[01:26] <myself> i want all the cool unicode fonts so i can see al lof them
[01:26] <armada> well... I wan to edit /etc/x11/xorg.conf what doi I have to write in the terminal?
[01:26] <luca> myself: like those in dafont.com ?
[01:26] <myself> well
[01:26] <myself> you know when people make funny faces
[01:26] <myself> like here
[01:26] <FrankQC> armada: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:26] <DasEi> hereAndThere: that's a kernel panic, I thik, check your /var/log/syslog
[01:26] <izzy> Why does ubuntu say I have to update apt and then return a 404?
[01:26] <luca> «» þø→↓← like these?
[01:27] <FrankQC> armada: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   ;;   it depends which editor you use
[01:27] <myself> http://twitter.com/unifaces
[01:27] <himitsu> l
[01:27] <myself> yeah luca
[01:27] <myself> i cant see all of the faces on the page i linked
[01:27] <myself> but i can see most of them
[01:27] <myself> but i want more :)
[01:27] <lwells> I just created a shell program and did a chmod +x on it, but when I try to run it, tells me "permission denied", why is that?
[01:27] <himitsu> where do I put wicd on startup Ubuntu
[01:27] <luca> myself: well on an italian keyboard i hold down "alt gr" key and press some other random key
[01:27] <myself> luca its just that i can't see all those fonts
[01:28] <myself> they're not installed
[01:28] <myself> i want to install them
[01:28] <luca> ok, lemme look the page first
[01:28] <qkgus> hey, does anyone know how to get a fixed background image in the nautilus file viewer, instead of repeated?
[01:28] <FrankQC> lwells: I would save it as 'something.sh'  then do  'sudo chmod a+x something.sh', then to run it,  'sudo sh something.sh' or 'sudo ./something.sh' or './something.sh' under root
[01:29] <armada> FrankQC
[01:29] <armada> it sau~ys not found :(
[01:29] <luca> myself: ok, i can't see all of them too
[01:29] <myself> well luca
[01:29] <myself> where do i get the fonts to see all of them
[01:29] <myself> do you know
[01:29] <luca> i guess you need the microsoft fonts
[01:29] <luca> or, that's a wild guess, some locales
[01:30] <myself> NO
[01:30] <myself> I DONT WANT MICROSOFT
[01:30] <pedestrianentran> what is some good screen capture software for making videos of google earth on ubuntu?
[01:30] <luca> myself: those are just times new roman, arial, windings and such
[01:30] <myself> hmm
[01:30] <myself> i think i got most wingdings
[01:30] <DasEi> !fonts | myself
[01:30] <luca> and you can install them with the msttcorefonts package
[01:30] <myself> how do u know those are the ones i cant see
[01:31] <luca> myself: because i bet windows users can see them :>
[01:31] <myself> how do you know
[01:31] <doseryder> does anyone know if dmraid comes with the Jaunty jackalope livecd?
[01:31] <luca> cause if windows users couldnt see them then they would be used by no one
[01:31] <myself> no
[01:31] <myself> luca
[01:31] <myself> i had windows xp and i could barely see any unicode fonts
[01:32] <luca> mmm another idea
[01:32] <myself> but w/e i guess w/ vista u can see more? but still there are a bunch u cant see on windows even w/ vista
[01:32] <johnnymac> hello, what is the difference between /bin and /sbin
[01:32] <luca> to me it's a charset-related thing
[01:32] <linux> i see
[01:32] <linux> hmm
[01:32] <luca> cause if ur default charset is latin1
[01:33] <linux> how long does it take for a username to expire on this network?
[01:33] <luca> you don't see arabic chars and such
[01:33] <DasEi> johnnymac: /bin contains most usercommands,  /sbin most user libs
[01:34] <luca> while if i use utf8 i apepar to be able to see korean nicks on amsn
[01:34] <DasEi> johnnymac:  /sbin less important binaries ; upper info incorrrect
[01:35] <myself> its okay
[01:35] <myself> how do i enable all of them luca
[01:35] <myself> where do i go
[01:35] <johnnymac> DasEi: so /bin are the important binaries but is /sbin not system binaries so therefore more important?
[01:36] <luca> heh it is not so straightforward i think, myself: i don't know if ubuntu has some tools for it
[01:36] <luca> anyway you should have the locales in /etc/locale
[01:36] <Guest47500> i have a weird problem. I'm sending data to a servo controller through /dev/ttyUSB0, the data is getting there but the servos won't respond. However if i keep the ttyUSB0 file open and then segfault the program suddenly the servos will respond
[01:36] <Guest47500> any idea what would cause that? :s
[01:36] <DasEi> johnnymac:  /sbin I found less essential binaries in, like additional programms, wile /sbin contains the core-cmd's
[01:37] <bernardlychan> hi does anyone know a linux alternative for teamviewer? i've tried it with wine, but is very slow.
[01:37] <nsahoo> in Software Sources/Updates tab I have checked both pre-released and unsupported checkboxes. Is it too risky?
[01:37] <rski> nsahoo: you decide
[01:37] <luca> Guest47500: it means maybe that you should flush the data
[01:37] <luca> maybe they aren't written to the usb bus until you force the program to do something
[01:37] <bernardlychan> does anyone know a linux alternative for teamviewer? i've tried it with wine, but is very slow.
[01:38] <xim_> is it possible to modify nautilis so that when it preview the icons of images it shows them at 800% instead of just 400%?
[01:38] <Guest47500> luca: ok thanks! ill give it a go
[01:38] <bernardlychan> does anyone know a linux alternative for teamviewer? i've tried it with wine, but is very slow.
[01:39] <luca> bernardlychan: what exactly is teamviewer?
[01:39] <rski> bernardlychan: asking again will probably get you in truble
[01:39] <bernardlychan> vnc over internet
[01:39] <rski> bernardlychan: then install realvnc or tightvnc as a replacement
[01:39] <jlaroche> hello everyone. I am running winxp and ubuntu in a dualboot environment. My xp installation got severely disrupted by a virus and I had to reinstall windows. Unfortunately my grub boot loader does not come up anymore (windows starts up when I turn on the laptop). Could anyone help me get it back?
[01:39] <twig11> twig11: Would someone please take a look at these instructions http://dsandler.org/wp/archives/2007/06/27/ubuntu-dwl-g120 and tell me if I'm missing something that would cause my system to freeze when I reboot with the wireless card plugged in?
[01:39] <luca> ah, vnc!
[01:39] <edbian> bernardlychan: Yes!  It's called SSH with X forwarding.
[01:39] <thiebaude_> !grub
[01:39] <bernardlychan> yes, but i'm not too sure how to do ssh with x forwarding
[01:39] <rski> jlaroche: windows removed grub
[01:39] <rski> ^
[01:40] <DasEi> !grub | jlaroche
[01:40] <edbian> bernardlychan: Do you have ssh set up?
[01:40] <bernardlychan> edbian: no
[01:40] <bernardlychan> how?
[01:40] <wahnfrieden_> hi
[01:40] <edbian> bernardlychan: Simplay install the openssh-server package on the computer you'd like to remote into.  Do you know how to do that?
[01:41] <jlaroche> rski - i know that
[01:41] <wahnfrieden_> is there an official firefox 3.5 release yet for jaunty?
[01:41] <jlaroche> thanks for the URLs guys
[01:41] <jlaroche> I'll check them out
[01:41] <thiebaude_> np
[01:41] <edbian> !ff3.5
[01:41] <robi2> hi guys
[01:41] <rski> hi guise
[01:41] <robi2> do anybody have experience with midi devices?
[01:42] <adriana> luca, I have installed openchorme via Sinaptic
[01:42] <luca> adriana: openchrome is the browser if i'm not mistaken
[01:43] <robi2> hehe.. plenty of people, hey?
[01:43] <luca> adriana: what link does it bear to google earth? :/
[01:43] <luca> ok, it is a google app, but openchrome is not 3d
[01:44] <luca> aha adriana can you do "lsmod | grep via" ?
[01:45] <robi2> guys.. I need some help, please.. any kind soul here? :)
[01:45] <johnnymac> does anyone have any tips for getting better on the command line?
[01:45] <adriana> its done, what should i do next?
[01:45] <edbian> luca: chrome is a browser by google.  openchrome is a series of integrated video chips from via
[01:45] <edbian> johnnymac: Practice practice practice!
[01:45] <jdu> johnnymac, linuxcommand.org
[01:45] <edbian> johnnymac: Are you familiar with the man pages?
[01:46] <DasEi> johnnymac: in which matter ?
[01:46] <johnnymac> yes man pages i know about
[01:46] <adriana> via                    49152  2
[01:46] <adriana> drm                    96296  3 via
[01:46] <adriana> snd_via82xx_modem      19336  5
[01:46] <adriana> snd_via82xx            32152  3
[01:46] <adriana> gameport               19340  1 snd_via82xx
[01:46] <adriana> snd_ac97_codec        112292  2 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx
[01:46] <FloodBot3> adriana: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:47] <luca> edbian: ok, i don't know anything about via
[01:47] <johnnymac> just doing stuff generally like working with config files
[01:47] <edbian> johnnymac: I find it good practice to stop when I do repetative things and ask: how could I do this in the command line?  And simply force myself to use it instead
[01:47] <jdu> johnnymac, at any rate, if you are pretty new to bash, linuxcommand.org provides a pretty good jumping off point.
[01:47] <johnnymac> but really understanding how linux works
[01:47] <adriana> Sorry
[01:48] <DasEi> johnnymac: for shorting cmds /etc/bash.bashrc is good doing aliases/functions, if you want a nighttrain, try emacs XD
[01:48] <jdu> vim!
[01:48] <bove> how do I set up sendmail in Ubuntu 8.10?
[01:48] <nsahoo> why does the firefox 3.5 installation calls itself shiretoko? can't I get the official firefox 3.5 version?
[01:48] <johnnymac> DasEi: ok thanks
[01:49] <luca> adriana: really I have no clue about it, but i'll google a little
[01:49] <robi2> I need to connect a midi keyboard to my ubuntu pc through an external usb device.. and I can't make it work..
[01:49] <wahnfrieden_> is there an easy way to add window tiling to gnome? or should I get some other WM
[01:49] <hipitihop> does anyone know how to resolve this 'Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module": /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64'
[01:49] <wahnfrieden_> I have a widescreen so I always like to have things side by side
[01:49] <adriana> luca, thank you very much!
[01:49] <DasEi> robi2: manufacturer ? hardwareinfo ?
[01:50] <luca> http://www.petitiononline.com/vialinux/petition.html
[01:50] <luca> adriana: i think the drivers suck then :P
[01:50] <jdu> wahnfrieden_, you can choose a different wm that is compatible with gnome. ie  you just have to switch out metacity for something tiling.
[01:50] <luca> adriana: the "via" module should be the graphic driver
[01:50] <luca> so you're actually using it
[01:50] <wahnfrieden_> oh
[01:50] <robi2> Dasei: the midi interface is 'Prodipe 4i4o'
[01:50] <wahnfrieden_> can you recommend something?
[01:50] <happy> hi can some1 tell me how to install .exe files on Ubuntu?
[01:50] <hipitihop> robi2: have you tried Jack ?
[01:51] <wahnfrieden_> happy, .exe are windows files. Try WINE, or virtualbox
[01:51] <adriana> Hehe, Know I can blame the driver!
[01:51] <hilaire> not easy to say. visite ubuntu.com
[01:51] <luca> happy: that's not really how things work....
[01:51] <robi2> hipitihop: yes.. it doesn't see it..
[01:51] <johnnymac> How does 'init' start?
[01:51] <r3l1c> ubuntu 9.01 I checked "Remember Programs at log out" under startup programs. Then I unchecked it because I didn't like it. the programs are still coming up and its driving me CRAZY!!!!! can anyone help?
[01:51] <DasEi> robi2: sounds exotic, no brand/ info-sticker on it ?
[01:51] <thiebaude> since i have firefox 3.5 can i get rid of firefox 3?
[01:51] <jdu> wahnfrieden,  well, with a few patches, dwm behaves nicely with gnome, but I would look into wmii, xmonad, etc and see what they say about gnome support.
[01:51] <johnnymac> what triggers 'init'?
[01:51] <hipitihop> robi2: sorry that is all I needed and all I know
[01:51] <th0r> johnnymac: you might want to check out tldp.org...they have some really good books covering such details
[01:52] <robi2> dasei: the brand is Prodipe. The model is 4i4o
[01:52] <wahnfrieden_> I tried  xmonad but it seems to need lots of hand configuration to work, only seems targeted at 'power users'/tweakers so far
[01:52] <jdu> johnnymac,     bios -> boot loader -> initramfs -> kernel -> init             iirc
[01:52] <th0r> johnnymac: also check some of the tutorials on the web about linux runlevels
[01:53] <r3l1c> windows and windows start when I log in...
[01:53] <r3l1c> help please
[01:54] <luca> r3l1c: those were the windows you left open when logging out
[01:54] <Hilikus> hey guys
[01:54] <Hilikus> i got this in my logwatch today
[01:54] <r3l1c> no I closed them, they are the windows that were there last time I logged on...
[01:54] <Hilikus> A total of 1 possible successful probes were detected
[01:54] <Hilikus> anyone knows what that means?
[01:54] <r3l1c> I closed all the windows and logged out and they still come up anyway
[01:54] <Hilikus> (the following URLs
[01:54] <Hilikus> contain strings that match one or more of a listing of strings that
[01:54] <Hilikus> indicate a possible exploit):
[01:55] <Hilikus> sorry
[01:55] <johnnymac> i see. is the /bin and /sbin part of the kernel? is root part of the kernel?
[01:55] <jdu> r3l1c, is this in gnome, xfce, what?
[01:55] <r3l1c> gnome
[01:55] <robi2> dasei: if you want to see the device on the web: http://www.prodipe.com/index.php?ml=16&cat=3&lang=9&pidpress=192
[01:55] <bastidrazor> r3l1c, system>preferences>startup applications.. you can uncheck the applications that are startings.
[01:55] <r3l1c> did it'
[01:56] <r3l1c> and they still come up
[01:56] <DasEi> robi2: google brought to me, but saying win/mac, frst thought on that would be try ubuntu-studio
[01:56] <jdu> r3l1c, check to see if the programs are in ~/config/autostart
[01:56] <r3l1c> checking, thanks
[01:57] <robi2> dasei: :( ubuntustudio freezes on my pc..
[01:57] <hipitihop> does anyone know if it is possible to connect a softphone like twinkle to an ATA ? so that it uses the ATA's codecs etc ?
[01:57] <jdu> johnnymac, no.   and / is the logical beginning of the filesystem
[01:57] <robi2> there must be something buggy with the realtime kernel.. I'm not alone with that problem..
[01:58] <jdu> johnnymac, /bin, /sbin are where many basic binaries are stored.  /usr/bin  contains binaries more likely to be used by the user
[01:58] <johnnymac> So the filesystem is not part of the kernel?
[01:58] <jdu> johnnymac, correct
[01:58] <gogeta> johnnymac: lol no
[01:59] <r3l1c> jdu:  no not in there, these are nautilus windows that are popping up
[01:59] <jdu> r3l1c, hmm.  have you modified things in any way: start up scripts, .xinitrc  .xsession etc.
[01:59] <r3l1c> jdu:  its under session-state
[01:59] <r3l1c> thanks
[02:00] <jdu> r3l1c, good.
[02:00] <r3l1c> I love learning new things
[02:00] <r3l1c> :)
[02:00] <Kangarooo> r3l1c, all is ok now? so where did you removed them? i have the same problem.. i unchecked to remember but it remembered last remebering.
[02:01] <jdu> r3l1c, at least the problem is better than having parts of the desktop not start (like the toolbars) because of session management :)
[02:01] <r3l1c> Kangarooo:  ~/.config/session-state
[02:01] <DasEi> robi2: far away from doing music-mastering, I tried it (studio) once on low spec-box, and it did well, though google can't find any linux-related to tat mixer, so guess not;; you'd have to find out which usb-chip is in there, if a modul exists and then still need a soft for it ; did you try the win soft >> wine ?
[02:01] <mfillpot> Can someone help to to setup ubuntu 9.04 to boot through another OSs occurance of grub?
[02:02] <r3l1c> jdu:  yeah true, that would be worse, and happens if you remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:02] <jdu> r3l1c, nothing happens if you remove ubuntu-desktop except it is not suggested if you want to upgrade
[02:02] <r3l1c> jdu:  I have never had that be the case
[02:02] <rufuscure> whats the best way to secure my computer, a firewall?
[02:02] <hilaire> how can I setup 3d EFFECTS in xfce ?
[02:02] <rufuscure> and does ubuntu come with one
[02:03] <r3l1c> I can never get to a desktop, I have always had to reinstall the package from bash
[02:03] <gogeta> rufuscure: yes ubuntu has one by defult no ports are open
[02:03] <rufuscure> so as long as i keep all my ports closed then i should be fine?
[02:03] <Kangarooo> r3l1c, you deleted it all? and in gui its not possible to edit?
[02:03] <mfillpot> rufuscure: Ubuntu and all Linux distros come with the iptables firewall, you can find a GUI application to configure it
[02:03] <gogeta> rufuscure: linux in nature it pretty secure
[02:04] <r3l1c> Kangarooo:  i backed up then deleted, didn't want to edit but that is a fair question
[02:04] <mfillpot> Can anyone help me with a grub configuration?
[02:04] <rufuscure> Ok, is it possible to use ubuntu to secure my windows PC?
[02:04] <Kangarooo> yes r3l1c thats good backuping saves if something bad hapens but for usual user what to do? gui?
[02:05] <Kangarooo> gui would be safer..
[02:05] <jdu> rufuscure, you mean as a firewall to your windows PC?
[02:05] <mfillpot> rufuscure: you can turn ubuntu into a proxy to span, cache and block traffic going to your windows systems.
[02:05] <mfillpot> s/span/scan/
[02:05] <rufuscure> JdU - I guess so? Mfillpot - Yeah like what you just said
[02:05] <_Space_Case_> rufuscure: firestarter is a gui for iptables
[02:06] <r3l1c> Kangarooo:  I am looking at one of the .Desktop files, the insides are pretty cool, you can change which desktop window they open in
[02:06] <jlaroche> THANKS GUYS! I fixed my dualboot situation! Have a great saturday night everyone!
[02:06] <oDesk> hello, i want to get my builtin modem "Agere systems" to work into Jaunty 9.04 ?? any working method
[02:06] <robi2> dasei: if I type 'cat /dev/sndstat' it shows the usb midi interface as: 'Midi devices: 2: USB Midi 4i4o'
[02:06] <rufuscure> apt-get install iptables ?
[02:06] <mfillpot> rufuscure: lookup a program called squid and read up on the configurations, you will find it very useful
[02:07] <robi2> but lsmod doesn't show it.. I suppose that means it doesn't load any module for it..
[02:07] <rufuscure> okay, thanks
[02:07] <mfillpot> rufuscure: iptables is installed in the kernel by default
[02:07] <VCoolio> I did "alien package.tar.gz" then installed the deb and now "command not found" while everything is in /usr/bin etc, if I do "locate" it is there, but executing fails ??
[02:07] <r3l1c> Kangarooo:  you can set height and width...
[02:07] <gogeta> !dialup | oDesk
[02:08] <happy> is there any1 that can help me with getting keygen?
[02:08] <Kangarooo> r3l1c, what? about what your talking? about gui type startup editing? where is it located?
[02:08] <oDesk> !modem
[02:08] <gogeta> oDesk: same link
[02:09] <oDesk> gogeta: yes
[02:09] <r3l1c> Kangarooo:  ~/.config/session-state/*.Desktop  "Remember after I log off" creates these .Desktop files they can be altered
[02:09] <Guest47500> luca: still can't get it to work :(
[02:10] <Guest47500> the light on the controller is blinking whenever i run the program
[02:10] <Guest47500> but im not sure how to flush
[02:10] <_Space_Case_> rufuscure: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[02:10] <nsahoo> are there any dualmonitor wallpaper for ubuntu?
[02:10] <johnliu> "子进程·post-installation script·返回了错误号·1"
[02:10] <johnliu> why?
[02:10] <r3l1c> Kangarooo:  These are configuration files for the Desktop
[02:11] <Kangarooo> r3l1c, ah cool yes :) thats advanced but is also somewhere a place to change with check/uncheck or delete last remembered state? or mange them?
[02:11] <r3l1c> yeah if they keep coming up
[02:11] <johnliu> "子进程·post-installation script·返回了错误号·1"
[02:11] <johnliu>  why?
[02:11] <bjorkintosh> does silverlight work on ubuntu?
[02:11] <r3l1c> you can find them and delete them
[02:11] <r3l1c> or alter them
[02:12] <Blizzerand> blackbeard : You could  use gnome-do . Its similar to silverlight
[02:12] <johnliu> who can help me ?
[02:12] <Blizzerand> bjorkintosh :You could use gnome-do . Its similar to silverlight
[02:12] <luca> johnliu: i don't understand your language.
[02:13] <mfillpot> will anyone try to help me with the grub configuration to boot ubuntu?
[02:13] <DasEi> mfillpot: k
[02:13] <bjorkintosh> Blizzerand, gnome-do?
[02:13] <DasEi> mfillpot: you got two hd's ..
[02:13] <Blizzerand> bjorkintosh : Well try this link http://do.davebsd.com/wiki/Main_Page
[02:13] <bjorkintosh> will it play the feynman lectures on microsoft's site?
[02:13] <bjorkintosh> ... i tried installing moonlight to no avail.
[02:14] <DasEi> mfillpot:one is grub on , on the other is also linux, and you want to put it in the menu, nor ?
[02:14] <johnliu> when i update or add a program,there is some error like this: "子进程·post-installation script·返回了错误号·1"
[02:14] <bjorkintosh> the install was succesful, but it played nothing on the page.
[02:14] <nsahoo> no dual monitor wallpapers?
[02:14] <mfillpot> DasEi: I have grub pre-installed and configured to boot Slackware, I installed ubuntu without installing the bootload and modified the menu.lst file to point to the vmlinux and initrd.img files, am I missing something?
[02:14] <nsahoo> for buntu
[02:14] <Blizzerand> bjorkintosh : You mean that *silverlight* which I am not sure about . <sorry can't help you>
[02:14] <bucky> bjorkintosh: did you install moonlight-plugin-mozilla
[02:14] <bjorkintosh> everything, bucky.
[02:15] <bjorkintosh> and also mono.
[02:15] <VCoolio> bjorkintosh: it will only support silverlight 1.0
[02:15] <bjorkintosh> oh. :(
[02:15] <mfillpot> DasEi: my menu.lst entry is pastebinned  http://pastebin.ca/31
[02:15] <Kangarooo> VCoolio, wow its very great. also other file managers should have it. maybe it can be modified to use not only in file managers but also in Obmenu?
[02:15] <bucky> bjorkintosh: dpkg -l moonlight-plugin-mozilla  what does it say
[02:15] <mfillpot> DasEi: sorry wrong link ... http://pastebin.ca/1499632
[02:15] <DasEi> mfillpot: crystal ball.. you need to give the right identifiers in menu, ah paste;   and give root in menu.lst being /boot  of ubuntu
[02:16] <VCoolio> Kangarooo: it works with anything that has customizable actions; you can run the script from commandline also with a file (although it will pop up the window, it's not cli-only)
[02:16] <DasEi> mfillpot: furtheron /boot ~ buntu needs bootflag on
[02:16] <bjorkintosh> bucky, it says 1.01
[02:16] <sfire> how in the heck do I play a encrypted DVD... I have tried everything I can find on the net
[02:16] <haagar> there is a *preview* of moonlight 2 which supports silverlight 2 at http://go-mono.com/moonlight-preview/
[02:17] <sfire> added sources.. all kinds of stuff
[02:17] <sfire> using 9.10
[02:17] <sebsebseb> sfire: libdvdcss2
[02:17] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu
[02:17] <mfillpot> DasEi: I am thinking that ubuntu is using identifiers that I do not use for slack, the boot partition is set to bottable and is working perfectly for my Slackware installations
[02:17] <sebsebseb> !9.10 |  sfire
[02:17] <mfillpot> DasEi: Am I missing something from my grub entry to boot ubuntu?
[02:17] <DasEi> mfillpot: didn't you speak of two hds ?
[02:18] <bucky> bjorkintosh: try these test pages http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/MoonlightStatus.aspx
[02:18] <bjorkintosh>  okay. have you tried it, haagar ?
[02:18] <mfillpot> DasEi: I have two Hds, but only one is holding data.  I installed Ubuntu on another partition on my primary HD alongside the Slack partitions
[02:18] <haagar> bjorkintosh, nope
[02:18] <hereAndThere> how do you know the model of the gfx card ?
[02:18] <DasEi> mfillpot: I can paste you a menu.lst, one second, but on the first look, the identifiers aren't right ((hd0,0) is mbr of first hd))
[02:19] <ILMAN9> Hello i would like to know which C Compiler should i use (i want it comfotable with GUI)..
[02:19] <bucky> gcc ?
[02:19] <mfillpot> the first HD has the bootloader, the boot partition and all Os installations
[02:19] <edbian> ILMAN9: The gnu C compiler gcc.  Is there any other option?
[02:19] <DasEi> mfillpot: can you paste a su(do) fdisk -l ?
[02:20] <ChoK> icc
[02:20] <ChoK> but no gui
[02:20] <ILMAN9> well something like Dev or Visual Studio..
[02:20] <bjorkintosh> bucky it works there.
[02:20] <ChoK> emacs can provide a gui though
[02:20] <hereAndThere> i have an nvidia
[02:20] <hereAndThere> i need to know what model it is :S
[02:20] <centinul> Has anyone successfully gotten the VT6656 USB WiFi working on Jaunty?
[02:20] <hereAndThere> any help ?
[02:20] <bucky> bjorkintosh: you're having a versioning problem between 1.0 and 2.0
[02:20] <mfillpot> DasEi: http://pastebin.ca/S:1499636
[02:20] <eric__> Hey do you guys know the best languge for hackuing?
[02:20] <eric__> hacking
[02:20] <FrankQC> hereAndThere: try installing lshw-gtk
[02:21] <ChoK> try ASM
[02:21] <FrankQC> hereAndThere: and check your video card model
[02:21] <ILMAN9> its depends..
[02:21] <bjorkintosh> bucky, is there anything to be done about it?
[02:21] <Bookman> How to get a webcam working in ubuntu 9.04?  What program works?
[02:21] <mfillpot> DasEi: my pastebin widget is acting up .. http://pastebin.ca/1499637
[02:21] <bucky> ILMAN9: eclipse
[02:21] <ILMAN9> 10x
[02:21] <ILMAN9> i will check it out
[02:21] <eric__> aw bookman i have the same problem
[02:21] <bucky> bjorkintosh: someone just gave you the site for 2.0
[02:21] <FrankQC> ILMAN9: What do you need? Is it a syntax highlighting ''notepad''?
[02:21] <DasEi> mfillpot: slow down a little, I'm human ;-)
[02:21] <VCoolio> hereAndThere: try this: lspci | grep -i vga
[02:21] <sabily_> #linuxac
[02:21] <bjorkintosh> i'll have to try it later.
[02:21] <bjorkintosh> party time.
[02:22] <bucky> bjorkintosh: there isn't a 2.0 version in the repos
[02:22] <ILMAN9> well yes
[02:22] <hereAndThere> Thank you VCoolio
[02:22] <hereAndThere> :D
[02:22] <Bookman> eric__: if you find a solution, let me know.
[02:22] <ILMAN9> FrankQC , do u have any ?
[02:22] <FrankQC> ILMAN9: I just use 'gedit'
[02:22] <FrankQC> ILMAN9: You can have tens of programming language syntax highlighting in it
[02:22] <ILMAN9> well i am a newbe with linux , can u help me..
[02:22] <ILMAN9> ?
[02:23] <FrankQC> ILMAN9: Perl, C, C++, C#, PHP, PHP, Java, Javascript, HTML, etc
[02:23] <johnnymac> do NFS and Samba do the same thing?
[02:23] <eric__> i wiil bookman just stay here
[02:23] <mfillpot> DasEi: sorry, I have been using slackware and fedora for around a decade now. I am just trying to figure out what is wrong with me menu.lst file
[02:24] <Blizzerand> mfillpot : Do you have Ubuntu Live CD with you
[02:24] <RobotCow> can someone help with a 64-bit issue? http://pastebin.com/f2c0deaab
[02:25] <Bookman> eric__: moving to another machine....
[02:25] <mfillpot> BlinkyToon: yes, but I will not overwrite my current grub installation
[02:25] <mfillpot> Blizzerand: : yes, but I will not overwrite my current grub installation
[02:25] <eric__> what do you mean bookman?
[02:25] <Blizzerand> mfillpot : No but have a look at this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:26] <zenlunatic> mfillpot, fedora only out like 5 years
[02:26] <Blizzerand> mfillpot ; Even though it is specialised for windows it worked for me when I tried to dual boot fedora and Ubuntu
[02:26] <mfillpot> zen0: I was using red hat prior to fedora
[02:26] <DasEi> mfillpot: grub mostly uses blkid's nowadays, which makes it much easier to not mess partiton-labels, what I can see now already is that you have given wrong partitions
[02:27] <mfillpot> 0,0 or sda1 is my boot partition... sda6 is my ubuntu installation, the partitions are correct
[02:27] <Surlent777> would anyone have any idea why my computer is forcibly being shut down at random? It'll go off either at the GRUB screen or shortly after booting. I installed a 4 inch, 12 volt fan this afternoon, and it was all running fine, for several hours. Then, as I was in XP at the time, playing Oblivion, I did a Windows Update, browsed the internet a bit, and then restarted. That's when the trouble started. Unplugging the new fan seems to have st
[02:28] <mfillpot> Blizzerand: The guide is not helping, it is not telling me where my configuration is slawed
[02:28] <mfillpot> s/slawed/flawed/
[02:28] <ChoK> Surlent777, your cpu is too hot
[02:28] <Surlent777> ChoK: That makes no sense. Why then would *unplugging* the new fan cause the system to boot properly?
[02:29] <plutojazz_> ..
[02:29] <mfillpot> My boot partitions holds folders that contain the boot files for each distro
[02:29] <elky> Surlent777, power consumption, i'd guess.
[02:29] <eric__> Are any of you guys a technition for ubuntu?
[02:29] <eric__> PM me
[02:30] <Kalmi> Surlent777, +1 for power consumption...
[02:30] <eric__> i have a problem w/ hooking up a web cam
[02:30] <Surlent777> elky: But the fan was working fine for almost six hours, even during intensive activity (ie high-end gaming)
[02:30] <Surlent777> then all of a sudden after I reboot, I get this crap
[02:30] <Kalmi> Surlent777, if the power supply is overloaded, it gets weaker over time
[02:30] <elky> Surlent777, you did updates, did that include drivers?
[02:30] <Blizzerand> mfillpot : It reconfigures grub and you should have no trouble having a wonderful time with ubuntu . And I am not sure what you mean by that last post
[02:30] <Surlent777> elky: no idea. I didn't watch it this time.
[02:31] <Blizzerand> mfillpot : And likely you won't lose your Slackware
[02:31] <elky> Surlent777, wait, windows updates triggered this?
[02:31] <DasEi> mfillpot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/221553/   is a typical enttry from menu.lst, now we need to know how you organized your os-hd
[02:31] <Surlent777> elky: I don't know. I was browsing at the time as well, and after WU finished, I restarted. then this all started
[02:32] <mfillpot> Blizzerand: If it use an autoconfiguration of grub it will use the boot dir in my ubuntu installation (not my boot partition) and will loose my slackware settings, I cannot use an auto-tool.  The line about the partitions was to DasEi.
[02:32] <Surlent777> I almost fear I got a virus somehow, so I have BitDefender going all out
[02:32] <won517> sp
[02:32] <mfillpot> DasEi: how do I find the uuid?
[02:33] <DasEi> mfillpot: sudo blkid for ubuntu su blkid ?
[02:33] <mfillpot> DasEi: is there a way to get that from the installed files from outside of ubuntu?
[02:33] <mfillpot> DasEi: I am running slackware because ubuntu won't boot
[02:34] <DasEi> mfillpot:if your linux (I wonder..) can't do it , a live would do it, but you can also use /dev/sdaXX
[02:34] <elky> Surlent777, well it doesnt sound like anything ubuntu did.
[02:35] <Surlent777> elky: probably not. If it's software related, it's either from WU or a virus
[02:35] <blahblah> can't get ttyUSB0 to flush :/
[02:35] <DasEi> mfillpot:su blkid    gives you nothing ?
[02:35] <mfillpot> DasEi: should I use the boot partition or the root partition as an argument?
[02:35] <christopher> how do i tell what type of proc my system is running?
[02:36] <komentarze_listy> anyone know how to change the irssi colors ? like... the nick colors... etc
[02:36] <Kalmi> christopher, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:36] <Surlent777> elky: I just don't understand how I could be using this fan and playing Oblivion and all that, have it work for six hours, and then suddenly on a reboot it's tripping over itself left and right
[02:36] <DasEi> mfillpot:the uuid is the /  , menu.lst root= is ubuntu's boot, (hx,y) counts from 0 , whereas sdx  counts from 1
[02:36] <christopher> ty kalmi
[02:37] <mfillpot> DasEi: thank you for your help, I will try it with the boot uuid. brb
[02:37] <Paavi2_0> komentarze_listy: that's pretty thoroughly documented on http://irssi.org
[02:37] <komentarze_listy> Paavi2_0: I'll give a look
[02:37] <komentarze_listy> Paavi2_0: thanks
[02:37] <DasEi> mfillpot: other solution : backup mbr, use supergrubdisk to get correct entrys
[02:38] <DasEi> gnarf
[02:38] <elky> Surlent777, this is a channel for Ubuntu technical support, and it's busy enough with just that stuff. You could ask in ##hardware or ##windows i guess.
[02:38] <Paavi2_0> komentarze_listy: you're welcome
[02:39] <Surlent777> elky: I wasn't aware of a #hardware and this was the only place I could think of. Thanks.
[02:40] <_u2pop_> where can i download the ubuntu .iso file for laptop ?
[02:40] <padd1> www.ubuntu.com
[02:40] <_u2pop_> cause from the site ubuntu.com they show me .img file
[02:40] <_u2pop_> wtf is .img
[02:40] <padd1> U can use the same thing
[02:40] <padd1> it's sorta like an iso
[02:40] <Paddy_NI> There are no img files on ubuntu.com
[02:40] <padd1> just use a normal burning tool
[02:40] <padd1> yeah
[02:40] <padd1> usually it's .iso
[02:41] <Paddy_NI> img is not used on ubuntu.com at all
[02:41] <_u2pop_> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloading?release=unr-newest&mirror=&arch=i386
[02:41] <_u2pop_> Download URL: http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-netbook-remix-i386.img
[02:41] <_u2pop_> Ubuntu Edition: Ubuntu 9.04 netbook-remix
[02:41] <_u2pop_> Computer Platform: i386
[02:41] <_u2pop_> Download Location: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[02:41] <FloodBot3> _u2pop_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:41] <_u2pop_> is .img
[02:42] <padd1> k, that's netbook remix
[02:42] <padd1> if ur using a normal laptop, use the desktop edition
[02:42] <_u2pop_> i want a ubuntu for laptop then
[02:42] <_u2pop_> really?
[02:42] <padd1> yep
[02:42] <Paddy_NI> yes
[02:42] <_u2pop_> cool
[02:42] <padd1> netbook remix is for small screens
[02:42] <_u2pop_> then i dont need to download it :P
[02:42] <Paavi2_0> _u2pop_: pick the normal .iso unless you want to for some reason or other install the netbook remix
[02:42] <_u2pop_> i have the desktop too
[02:43] <durando> i have ubuntu 9.04 64bit host and cannot make vmware workstation work with alsa sound, i have tried a few different methods of getting the alsa-oss wrapper to work.  Anyone have suggestions?
[02:43] <Paddy_NI> netbook remix is for.. netbooks :P
[02:43] <padd1> unless U have a slow or old laptop
[02:43] <_u2pop_> k
[02:43] <Paavi2_0> !u | padd1
[02:43] <padd1> lol
[02:43] <_u2pop_> so i can use the desktop ubuntu for a normal laptop
[02:43] <_u2pop_> cool then
[02:43] <padd1> yep
[02:44] <padd1> anyone help me with a broken dependency?
[02:44] <uknown> is there a way to see if my drivers are installed correctly
[02:44] <centinul> Has anyone successfully gotten the VT6656 USB WiFi working on Jaunty?
[02:44] <padd1> was installing kubuntu into ubuntu
[02:44] <johnliu> "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[02:44] <padd1> and now, my kdelibs-data is gone
[02:44] <_Space_Case_> _u2pop_: i have ubuntu on my laptop works just fine
[02:44] <johnliu> how to deal with it?
[02:45] <padd1> and, it gets a dpkg error when trying to process installing the package:
[02:45] <johnliu> yeah
[02:45] <mfillpot> DasEi: The problem was not with the config, the uuid is not needed.
[02:45] <padd1> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-1ubuntu8_all.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[02:45] <padd1> how can I get the file kdelibs-data?
[02:45] <padd1> I've tried deleting the file and reinstalling
[02:46] <gogeta> padd the files bad
[02:46] <DasEi> mfillpot: you solved it ?
[02:46] <gogeta> padd1: sudo apt-get clean
[02:46] <padd1> cool thanks mate
[02:46] <mfillpot> DasEi: The problem was that I forgot to create a symlink from the /boot/boot/ dir to the /boot/ubuntu directory
[02:46] <gogeta> so it redownloads\
[02:46] <padd1> I'll try
[02:47] <padd1> I get this error, gogeta:
[02:47] <mfillpot> DasEi: eventhough the boot partition is rederenced I still has to make referenced from with the directory to a /boot/ subdirectory
[02:47] <padd1> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-1ubuntu8_all.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[02:47] <padd1> wait, soz
[02:47] <padd1> wrong one
[02:47] <DasEi> mfillpot: or give the correct root=/dev/ident
[02:47] <padd1> gogeta: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:47] <padd1> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[02:47] <mfillpot> DasEi: I had all of the correct partition entries
[02:47] <the-vava> what is the initram ?
[02:48] <dmb> is there a way to see why a kernel paniced?
[02:48] <dmb> after rebooting?
[02:48] <gogeta> padd1: spmethings using atp
[02:48] <padd1> oh synaptic
[02:48] <padd1> one sec
[02:49] <DasEi> mfillpot: if I got you right, you have two /boot ,slack and fedora (ore even more), this and the entry for / have to be correct
[02:49] <padd1> gogeta: thanks, it's redownloading
[02:50] <DasEi> mfillpot: fedora zz ubuntu*
[02:50] <mfillpot> DasEi: Do you want to see the entire menu.lst entry to understand the build?
[02:51] <DasEi> mfillpot: is it working ? sure
[02:51] <brummbaer> evening all!
[02:51] <padd1> k, worked. Thanks so much Gogeta
[02:52] <necroforest> Is there some way of disabling the capability of locking the Linux audio driver?
[02:52] <brummbaer> i've got a strange issue, trying to ping anything from my box > err msg: "ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted"  i've already confirmed i've setuid root on the executable, anybody know where else to look?
[02:52] <necroforest> I have this constant problem with Firefox (specifically Flash) and Amarok having sound driver wars.
[02:52] <mfillpot> DasEi: It is working like a charm, but I am back in slackware64-current now.  Here is the list: http://pastebin.ca/1499655
[02:53] <otto_> halo
[02:53] <the-vava> necroforest: one does not play sound? one crashes?
[02:53] <necroforest> the-vava, if i play a flash video and then start amarok, it complains it can't open the sound device
[02:53] <necroforest> I have to kill firefox and restart amarok
[02:54] <the-vava> necroforest, are you using pulseaudio, oss or alsa?
[02:54] <chs200123> Tonight is my first night ever trying linux. I tried to install and cannot get past this error: GRUB Loading stage1.5. Grub Loading, please wait... Error 2
[02:54] <necroforest> if i have amarok playing and start firefox, i have to kill amarok and firefox and restart firefox to play a flash video
[02:54] <necroforest> ALSA
[02:54] <chs200123> anyone know what this is?
[02:54] <chs200123> Im running a raid with mediashield
[02:54] <sebsebseb> chs200123: oh
[02:54] <necroforest> It's Intel HD audio (ICH10), if that matters
[02:55] <eggenz7> trying to get ubuntu minimal to load on a dell poweredge 2500....cd boots up..but after the kernel loads the system freezes..says loading initrd.gz .........................................ready. then a blinking cursor
[02:55] <mfillpot> DasEi: I am cleaning out the old commented test entries from my file now.
[02:56] <sebsebseb> chs200123: you can  Google and find out what error 2 is,  but  the bot stuff might also be useful
[02:56] <DasEi> mfillpot: heh, that's cruel ;-), I once set up a mutliboot (xp, ubu8.04, 8.10) but then seperated the /boot as own partis before, you used subdirs ?
[02:56] <sebsebseb> !grub |  chs200123
[02:56] <chs200123> can anyonebot stuff?
[02:56] <the-vava> necroforest, i have the same problems. rhythmbox can't playback if vlc is running or other programs make problems with the audio drivers. i wonder when those problems will be gone forever.. wish..
[02:57] <necroforest> ugh
[02:57] <necroforest> so annoying
[02:57] <chs200123> ok, ill give it a shot, thanks
[02:57] <mfillpot> DasEi: I used subdirs, so that I can copy the updated /boot/ files from each OS into an independent directory rather than risking name conflicts and overwritten files
[02:57] <necroforest> there's really no good reason i can think of to have an exclusive lock on the sound device anyways
[02:57] <necroforest> the-vava, what sound card do you have?
[02:57] <syockit> Is there a page explaining how files are sorted according filenames i.e. filename order rules? I can't comprehend why 1.txt comes after [2].txt but before [a].txt
[02:57] <reaper> does anyone know how to get ubuntu to reconize xd card readers?
[02:58] <jrhicks_> hello
[02:58] <DasEi> mfillpot: you did that with the textinstaller ?
[02:58] <sebsebseb> chs200123: someone else Googled for you, when I  told him about this.   stage 2 error 2  2 : Bad file or directory type  This error is returned if a file requested is not a regular file, but something like a symbolic link, directory, or FIFO.
[02:58] <blahblah> luca: it's the guy with the servo problem. Even when calling fflush() it still won't work
[02:58] <eggenz7> what the some of the causing of the kernel hanging on a live cd?
[02:58] <jrhicks_> help installing vnc server
[02:58] <sebsebseb> !vnc |  jrhicks_
[02:58] <blahblah> im sure the data is getting there since the led is blinking
[02:59] <mfillpot> DasEi: I installed grub manually and told it to use the files and list off of the /boot partition, then manually edited the file structure and menu.lst file
[02:59] <chs200123> sebsebseb: im not really sure what all that means, but thank you
[02:59] <DasEi> !bootoptions | eggenz7
[02:59] <mfillpot> DasEi: It seems to be the easiest and cleanest way to maintain multiple installations
[03:00] <sebsebseb> chs200123: yeah me either, or him
[03:00] <chs200123> lol
[03:00] <mfillpot> DasEi: also since grub is reading the file rather than and mbr immage I am edit the menu.lst file from any OS and the changes are immediate
[03:00] <swoody> can anyone help me to get multiple video cards to work in Ubuntu? Currently it will give me a CLI login screen, and it won't start anything graphical with two cards installed??
[03:00] <DasEi> mfillpot: this what I like uuids for, that recent system was totally crypted and I used an external (non grub) bootloader
[03:00] <sebsebseb> chs200123: maybe  the  /boot/grub  stuff has been installed in a werid place,   which also means your menu.lst is,   or simpally the  menu.lst entrys aren't detecing your partition properly
[03:00] <the-vava> necroforest, Intel HD Audio Controller (ICH8 Family)
[03:01] <necroforest> hmm, could be a driver issue
[03:01] <arand> mfillpot: from the grub manual error two is "This error is returned if a file requested is not a regular file, but something like a symbolic link, directory, or FIFO."
[03:01] <chs200123> im wondering if this has something to do with my raid configuration
[03:01] <mfillpot> DasEi: I was forced to move from lilo to grub because my HD mbr is too small to hold a lilo image
[03:01] <sebsebseb> chs200123: http://www.ubuntuforums.org is also good by the way
[03:01] <edbian> mfillpot: lilo is old news anyways ;)
[03:02] <chs200123> thankyou
[03:02] <mfillpot> arand: I knew that it could not find something that was needed, I was jsut too slow to figure out that it is due to a missing symlink.
[03:02] <sebsebseb> chs200123: well it's a Grub error so it's not exactly distro specific and so  ##linux could be useful the general Linux channal
[03:02] <DasEi> mfillpot: a little more geeky that, especially if fs messes up under encryption, is what I like separate partitons for (is only one sys in the worse)
[03:02] <mfillpot> edbian: I prefer lilo for the simplicity
[03:02] <jrhicks_> is there a native firewall on ubuntu desktop?
[03:02] <EvolutionXtinct> hey guys i'm having a issue with my eth0. for some reason it can not ping outside my network. I can ping other systems in my network segment, my resolv.conf and interfaces.conf files are setup correctly but still can't ping
[03:02] <jrhicks_> or better yet; what is the command to find a running firewall?
[03:02] <willm> jrhicks are yo
[03:02] <mfillpot> DasEi: only my home partition is encrypted, the others are not necessary on a home system
[03:03] <sebsebseb> chs200123: well  I expect it's something to do with how your RAID is set up
[03:03] <jrhicks_> willm ?
[03:03] <willm> jrhicks are you talking about iptables?
[03:03] <willm> sorry my computer is screwy
[03:03] <EvolutionXtinct> hey guys i'm having a issue with my eth0. for some reason it can not ping outside my network. I can ping other systems in my network segment, my resolv.conf and interfaces.conf files are setup correctly but still can't ping
[03:03] <arand> mfillpot: ah, didn't realise you'd already solved it :)
[03:04] <arand> EvolutionXtinct: can you browse to them?
[03:04] <jrhicks_> willm px -x | grep iptable does not return anything
[03:04] <EvolutionXtinct> i am connected via SSH to the box from another box
[03:04] <mfillpot> arand: the problem was PEBKAC, the issue was fixed with ln -s
[03:04] <jrhicks_> willm oops .... ps -x | grep iptable does not reutnr anything
[03:04] <EvolutionXtinct> so it see's internal but not external
[03:04] <willm> ok let me look for a second
[03:04] <jrhicks_> willm thx
[03:05] <DasEi> mfillpot: intersting thought to bring additional os'es in /boot - subdir, would never have thought of that
[03:06] <n2diy> why would my RSA key change?
[03:06] <EvolutionXtinct> arand do you havce any other ideas?
[03:06] <mfillpot> DasEi: I have been working with Linux for quite a while and have dealt with many issues, the best tools you have are good organization in the FS and config files
[03:06] <willm> I did find a man page for iptables
[03:06] <mfillpot> DasEi: Now do you understand the partition setup on my system?
[03:08] <EvolutionXtinct> argh! any ideas :( i don't know why its having this issue anyway to totally flush its DNS enteries
[03:08] <willm> @jrhicks: you can also have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[03:08] <DasEi> mfillpot: think so at least, you'are root in menu-lst first view confuses (uuid of ubuntu><erm, same /??) , but sure, that's /boot , ubu is in subdir
[03:08] <DasEi> your*
[03:08] <EvolutionXtinct> anyone got any ideas?
[03:09] <|ckosloff|> anybody know how to install wireless driver ath9k in jaunty?
[03:10] <mfillpot> DasEi: If you are interested in looking, the tree output for my boot partition is in pastebin   http://pastebin.ca/1499666
[03:10] <willm> @Evolution: have you checked the firewall to make sure that things aren't being blocked?
[03:10] <gogeta> mfillpot: lol slack
[03:11] <EvolutionXtinct> i don't believe its enabled, its a dekiwiki ubuntu VM image, but the resolv.conf and interfaces file looked correct
[03:11] <EvolutionXtinct> but it has been working, just moved things over to a new network IP scheme
[03:11] <brummbaer> *additional info re: previous question, i tried restoring the original /etc/sysctl.conf file, as i'd made some security mods... no good. on the other hand, if i flush IPTables, with 'sudo iptables -f' i can ping out w/ no err.
[03:11] <mfillpot> slack is my preferred, but I am installing ubuntu so I can help some ubuntu users in my LUG with their problems.
[03:12] <gogeta> mfillpot: why you whant linux hard mode
[03:12] <willm> @Evolution: did you change anything inside the vm when you changed to ip scheme?
[03:12] <necroforest> what's wrong with slackware?
[03:12] <|ckosloff|> anybody can help with wireless?
[03:13] <mfillpot> gogeta: I like knowing that I have full control of my system and that all installed apps and libraries are unmodified
[03:13] <bthompso1> hey guys i had an nvida video card and install an ATI card....to get dual monitors...i boot up and it can't display the screen this is an older higher end AGP card...im only on a p4 system...so it should have a driver..
[03:13] <gogeta> necroforest: knothing
[03:13] <bthompso1> how do i set the new card up..im running in low graphics mode now.
[03:13] <jrhicks_> can I monitor the firewall
[03:13] <abstortedminds1> does 9.04 server come with X/Gnome by default or is that optional?
[03:13] <willm> @jrhicks: you should be able to
[03:14] <mfillpot> abstortedminds1: in server GUi is optional
[03:14] <Bookman> how to troubleshoot the audio on this site: http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/apollo11_radio/
[03:14] <abstortedminds1> k well i need to install VMware server on it, so its basically an option i can check to put GUI on it?
[03:14] <willm> @jrhicks: I haven't used iptables in a while so I don't know of any programs that will do it, but I think that there is a gui program
[03:14] <chrisn2323> can someone help me with my wireless problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7639118#post7639118
[03:14] <jrhicks_> O
[03:15] <jrhicks_> I'm getting ... "can't open file '/home/owner/.Xresources'
[03:15] <jrhicks_> "
[03:15] <Brian__> can someone tell me how i can run microsoft office 2007 in ubuntu
[03:15] <DasEi> mfillpot: nice overview, I'd do exteneded and subpartitions, where needed and track them with labels(names) and uuid, a blkid would help my rusty brain in a convienent manner then, too
[03:15] <chrisn2323> u cant
[03:15] <jrhicks_> when I run /home/owner/.vnc/xstartup
[03:15] <gogeta> Bookman: i think only mplayer withh the mozilla plugin and w32codecs can do wma
[03:15] <chrisn2323> Brian__ openoffice is a nice alternative
[03:15] <chrisn2323> you cant run msoffice though
[03:15] <willm> @jrhicks: I am not sure with that, I don't know that much about the firewall, sorry
[03:15] <Brian__> open office doesn't work
[03:15] <_u2pop_> guys if i have the cd ubuntu 7.04
[03:15] <Brian__> it crashed
[03:16] <sebsebseb> chrisn2323: you can run Microsoft Office most of it
[03:16] <Bookman> gogeta: how to install that?
[03:16] <_u2pop_> how can i upgrade to 9.04 in terminal ?
[03:16] <chrisn2323> explain Brian__
[03:16] <chrisn2323> you could also use abiword too
[03:16] <Brian__> openoffice frequently crashes
[03:16] <Brian__> is slow
[03:16] <chrisn2323> hmm it doesnt for me
[03:16] <Brian__> and has tons of bugs
[03:16] <Brian__> abiword doesn't open new office files
[03:16] <sebsebseb> Brian__: might need to configure it a litlte not sure,  but  you can do Office 2007
[03:16] <mneptok> Brian__: MS-Office will be slower
[03:16] <DasEi> mfillpot: k, let's not go too far ot here, good to know you solved it, nice lesson :)
[03:16] <jrhicks_> thanks willm for the try :)
[03:16] <willm> jrhicks: NP
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Brian__: give KOffice a try as well, if your having issues with Open Office
[03:17] <_u2pop_> guys if i have the cd ubuntu 7.04
[03:17] <_u2pop_> how can i upgrade to 9.04 in terminal ?
[03:17] <mfillpot> DasEi: Thanks for your help. ;)
[03:17] <gogeta> Bookman: http://www.medibuntu.org/ add that repo then install mplayer mplayer-plugin and w32codecs
[03:17] <mfillpot> now to install a few useful tools in ubuntu
[03:17] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: first you have to upgrade  to  7.10,  then you can upgrade to 8.04
[03:17] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: then you would have to upgrade to 8.10  and then to 9.04
[03:17] <willm> @_u2pop: I don't know if you can do the double hop
[03:18] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: 8.04 is the long term support  now a 8.04.3
[03:18] <gogeta> Bookman: i found the vlc plugin not to rely work
[03:18] <chrisn2323> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7639118#post7639118
[03:18] <chrisn2323> halp please
[03:18] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: LTS's can be upgraded to the next one,  but  otherwise you got to go through all the releases
[03:18] <_u2pop_> :/\
[03:18] <_u2pop_> :/
[03:18] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: you can upgrade an LTS to a later LTS, but you can't upgrade a  standard non LTS  release  to just any later version
[03:18] <Sinister> why isnt there a menu for lxde to move and copy files ? and if there is why cant i find it ?
[03:19] <_u2pop_> so is much better to download the iso
[03:19] <_u2pop_> and finish problem hehe
[03:19] <chrisn2323> ye
[03:19] <chrisn2323> s
[03:19] <bthompso1> how do i set the new card up..im running in low graphics mode now.
[03:19] <sirninja> I'm trying to reverse the scrolling on my touchpad, but I want the scrolling on my mouse to stay the same. I've managed to reverse both with .Xmodmap, how would I set different 'pointer=blah' for my touchpad and my mouse?
[03:19] <C-00000100> when i boot up, log in and it tells me that my user's home is not owned by my user, and then i cant access anything, i open a term and sudo -i and chown -R username:usergroup /home/username  and it tells me "permission denied",,,, any help out there?
[03:19] <rufuscure> Whats the difference between an FTP server, and HTTP server
[03:19] <chrisn2323> rufuscure servers that implement a different protocol
[03:19] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: I guess so yeah,  and by the way 8.10 in certain ways is better than 9.04,  and once 9.10 is released at the end of October, many people will be clearn installing Ubuntu for the Ext4 which will be default :)   and got to clean install for full support
[03:20] <willm> @chrisn2323: Have you tried to talk to the debian irc folks yet?
[03:20] <chrisn2323> bthompso1 post your xorg.conf
[03:20] <chrisn2323> yes willm non responsive
[03:20] <rufuscure> I'd like to setup a server on ubuntu which I could log in to using telnet on my windows pc
[03:20] <rufuscure> would that be FTP or HTTP
[03:20] <thiebaude> _u2pop_: unless ppl have 9.04 with ext4 already
[03:20] <chrisn2323> use ssh rufuscure
[03:20] <MrPiracy> where are xchat config files located?
[03:20] <rufuscure> ok i'll check it out
[03:21] <willm> @chrisn2323: let me look at this for a minute and see what I can see
[03:21] <dpupp> help.... i need help editing my menu.lst for booting windows and linux... I dont know what to put for root... hd0,0 or hd0,1 ?. .. im confused.
[03:21] <gogeta> Bookman: its mozilla-mplayer not mplayer-plugin
[03:21] <Paavi2_0> rufuscure: telnet is utterly unrecommended
[03:21] <sebsebseb> thiebaude _u2pop   which is really for  more experienced users that know what they are doing, in case something goes wrong
[03:21] <_u2pop_> k cool
[03:21] <rufuscure> a telnet like program
[03:21] <bthompso1> http://pastebin.com/m6d447e4c
[03:21] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: very true
[03:21] <chrisn2323> yes rufuscure use sshd on your linux box and putty on your windows one
[03:21] <n2diy> ! dns
[03:21] <_u2pop_> when will be the 9.10 ?
[03:21] <_u2pop_> soon?
[03:21] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: 9.04 isn't 100%  stable in 9.04 or whatever
[03:21] <bthompso1> chrisn2323: i pasted
[03:21] <rufuscure> I want to log in to my ubuntu pc using a terminal from another pc basically
[03:21] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: end of October like I already said
[03:22] <Paavi2_0> rufuscure: ssh is perfect for that
[03:22] <rufuscure> ok apt-get install ssh?
[03:22] <_u2pop_> but if i download the 9.04 i can upgrade to 9.10 with no problem right?
[03:22] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: 9.04 isn't 100% stable in 9.04???  I meant to put Ext4
[03:22] <chrisn2323> bthompso1 try running nvidia -xconfig in your terminal
[03:22] <chrisn2323> sshd rufuscure
[03:22] <thiebaude> _u2pop_: it could be risky
[03:22] <bthompso1> chrisn2323: its an ati card
[03:22] <Paavi2_0> rufuscure: ssh is already installed, install sshd
[03:22] <_u2pop_> :/
[03:22] <bthompso1> chrisn2323: i had an nvida
[03:22] <chrisn2323> then why is nvidia your driver bthompso1
[03:22] <willm> @chrisn2323: I would have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=832809
[03:22] <chrisn2323> that might be your problem
[03:22] <chrisn2323> change drivers
[03:23] <MrPiracy> where are xchat config files located?
[03:23] <bthompso1> chrisn2323: how?
[03:23] <thiebaude> _u2pop_: 9.10 is still in delvelopement
[03:23] <Bookman> gogeta: I have installed mozilla-mplayer, still no sound.  A playback bar comes up, just does not playback
[03:23] <DasEi> rufuscure: ftp and http are different protocolls, for what you want put an ssh server on the lin box and use putty on windows-side
[03:23] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_:  upgrading well  people need to clean install for full Ext4 support as I already said, because the  Ext3 to  Ext4 conversion isn't good enough
[03:23] <chrisn2323> install the ati one bthompso1 and tell xorg to use it
[03:23] <gogeta> Bookman: didd you install w32codecs
[03:23] <dpupp> Can someone help me restore grub? i installed windows after linux and it mucked things up a bit. Im following a set of instructions, but im not sure what i need to replace with my own info instead of the tutorials info. Im stuck and making a "windows Stanza" .... help?
[03:23] <arand> _u2pop_: Since 9.10 is not out of alpha it is per definition *problem*
[03:23] <_u2pop_> but there are no beta for 9.10
[03:23] <thiebaude> !grub
[03:23] <_u2pop_> ?
[03:23] <bthompso1> chrisn2323: how do you do that
[03:23] <_u2pop_> for download it
[03:23] <Paavi2_0> rufuscure: the package is called openssh-server if i remember correctly
[03:23] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: there's alpha2 at the moment, and I woudn't recommend it to you
[03:23] <chrisn2323> bthompso1 which version of ubuntu do you have
[03:24] <MrPiracy> dpupp, can u boot with the live cd?
[03:24] <Paavi2_0> !info openssh-server
[03:24] <_u2pop_> k fine
[03:24] <bthompso1> chrisn2323: 9.04
[03:24] <thiebaude> _u2pop_: i have to agree with sebsebseb
[03:24] <DasEi> mfillpot: ubuntu-tools ?
[03:24] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: infact alpha2 can't even be dual booted with  other OS's at the moment as far as I know
[03:24] <_u2pop_> so i will download the 9.04 then in octuber i will upgrade to 9.10
[03:24] <chrisn2323> bthompso1 there should be a program that installs hardware drivers
[03:24] <chrisn2323> its in some menu in gnome
[03:24] <bthompso1> chrisn2323: i tried it didn't find anything
[03:24] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: or  just do 8.04 for now 8.04.3  upgrade to it
[03:24] <chrisn2323> then do sudo apt-get install nameofatidriver
[03:24] <dpupp> MrPiracy, yeah i can boot with live cd and even without, but my options are wrong.
[03:25] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: and  the  8.04  to 8.10  upgrade could be risky,  since  I have lost Internet connection after doing this, as well as other people
[03:25] <_u2pop_> seb but if i download 8.04.3 i can upgrade to 9.10 in october ?
[03:25] <MrPiracy> dpupp, oh, u want to restore grub's default options?
[03:25] <arand> sebsebseb: is that grub2 issues? (Since I dual-boot happily so far...)
[03:25] <bthompso1> chrisn2323: how doyou know what the name of it is.
[03:25] <chrisn2323> google?
[03:25] <dpupp> i want to restore grub, and add windows as a boot option.
[03:25] <sebsebseb> arand: it was in the alpha2 notes, not sure how up to date they keep that
[03:26] <Bookman> gogeta: yes, w32codecs installed
[03:26] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: you won't be able to upgrade  8.04.3  to  9.10, but you could wait for 10.04  April  2010,  and then upgrade directly from 8.04.3  to 10.04
[03:26] <MrPiracy> dpupp, boot into linux and manually edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:26] <arand> _u2pop_: well you will still have to go at it in three steps.
[03:26] <dpupp> MrPiracy, right now, i tried restoring grub, but now it dont see windows... and i tried adding windows,  but it wont load it. it gives an error and throws me back at the grub menu.
[03:26] <chrisn2323> willm i dont have 2 wireless cards...
[03:26] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: ,but I already gave you a reason to clean install once 9.10 is out, so  you won't do that
[03:26] <dpupp> MrPiracy, thats what im trying now.
[03:26] <n2diy> chrisn2323: Following your qso with rufuscure, makes me think you might be able to help me? I'm using grsync and ssh to do backups. Just now, I got a host key verification error, the RSA host key has changed? Google tells me this could be because my DNS or ip address changed? I checked my ip address, and it is the same, can I check my dns address? How would I tell ssh about the new DNS?
[03:26] <willm> Ok Let me look again
[03:27] <dpupp> MrPiracy, but i dont know how to edit that file.
[03:27] <_u2pop_> so is much better me to download 9.04 then in october upgrade to 9.10 and done
[03:27] <MrPiracy> dpupp, there are several examples on how to boot a windows partition from grub
[03:27] <chrisn2323> n2diy go into your router settings and give youself a static ip address
[03:27] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: upgrade to 8.04.3  run that for now,  clean install when 9.10 is out :)
[03:27] <MrPiracy> dpupp, are u on linux?
[03:27] <_u2pop_> because that removing a installing and upgrading and steps
[03:27] <chrisn2323> n2diy then configure your internet to use it
[03:27] <thiebaude> the next desktop LTS will be april 2011
[03:27] <dpupp> no, im in windows now on my desktop. i dont know a good irc client for linux
[03:27] <dpupp> MrPiracy, no, im in windows now on my desktop. i dont know a good irc client for linux
[03:28] <chrisn2323> dpupp try xchat
[03:28] <thiebaude> :)
[03:28] <_u2pop_> seb i have the cd 7.04
[03:28] <MrPiracy> dpupp, try xChat, it's the best for me
[03:28] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: you can do an Internet upgrade to 7.10, and then from that to 8.04.3
[03:28] <_u2pop_> 7.04 to 8.04 then upgrade to 8.04.3
[03:28] <gogeta> Bookman: its buffering for me
[03:28] <arand> bthompso1: hardware drivers, under system > admin menu
[03:28] <_u2pop_> geez
[03:28] <dpupp> MrPiracy,  is it free?
[03:28] <MrPiracy> dpupp, so all u need is to get to edit grub config file?
[03:28] <willm> chrisn2323: what happens if you try to connect without security enabled?
[03:28] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: I thought you had 7.04 already installed?
[03:28] <MrPiracy> dpupp, yes, it's in synaptics
[03:28] <Bookman> gogeta: funny, works on another Ubuntu 9.04machine, no issues
[03:29] <chrisn2323> i dont know willm
[03:29] <bthompso1> arand: then what nothing in there
[03:29] <chrisn2323> i have wpa enabled
[03:29] <gogeta> Bookman: if you have the vlc plugin installed it whont work
[03:29] <willm> I would try that then
[03:29] <chrisn2323> and im not going to change it
[03:29] <arand> thiebaude: is it clearly defined (whole issue of maybe sync with debian etc...) ?
[03:29] <dpupp> MrPiracy, yeah, i just want to add windows as a boot option. it used to just boot windows. but then i restopred grub... and then it would just boot linux. i want it to offer me the choice between the two with a 10 second count down.
[03:29] <Bookman> gogeta: I have VLC plugin on the other machine that works
[03:29] <thiebaude> arand: yea, i heard about that
[03:29] <willm> chrisn2323: that way we can get a base for whether or not it is working
[03:30] <chrisn2323> the point is it should be working regardless
[03:30] <gogeta> Bookman: i tryed with vlc it didnt do anything
[03:30] <MrPiracy> dpupp, get back to linux, go to terminal and type sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:30] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: oh lost you?   I thought you had 7.04 already instaleld
[03:30] <EvolutionXtinct> argh not sure why this box can't see the internet
[03:30] <EvolutionXtinct> all other boxes do.
[03:30] <u2pop> seb not yet
[03:30] <u2pop> i just have the cd
[03:30] <arand> bthompso1: if you started that thing and it shows nothing, it means no hardware which needs those drivers are detected....
[03:30] <sebsebseb> _u2pop_: oh you don't hve Ubuntu installed at all?
[03:30] <MrPiracy> dpupp, a text editor will pop up showing u this file, it's acctually the menu grub will use to display
[03:30] <gogeta> Bookman: just said wating
[03:30] <u2pop> nop
[03:30] <MrPiracy> dpupp, u can manually edit and insert ur windows partition
[03:30] <u2pop> my another pc yes but is 9.04
[03:30] <sebsebseb> u2pop: well in that case  get yourself an 8.10 or 9.04  CD and install that
[03:31] <n2diy> chrisn2323: ok, do I need to check with my isp about this, I'm not sure if I need DHCP or not?
[03:31] <u2pop> so i want to install to my laptop
[03:31] <Bookman> Mine says Playing 0:00 (Streaming)
[03:31] <sebsebseb> u2pop: did you ever do 8.10?
[03:31] <MrPiracy> dpupp, it has some samples in the file, u can just uncomment them
[03:31] <u2pop> nop\
[03:31] <Bookman> gogeta: sorry....Mine says Playing 0:00 (Streaming)
[03:31] <chrisn2323> n2diy is this on your lan?
[03:31] <sebsebseb> u2pop: ok well makes sense to have one with 9.04   for now and the other with 8.10,  and then  clean install both once 9.10 is out
[03:31] <dpupp> MrPiracy, i tried uncommenting them but it gives an error when i try selecting the option at boot time.
[03:32] <dpupp> MrPiracy, do i need to move the uncommented text to the very bottom of the file?
[03:32] <MrPiracy> dpupp, u probably didnt put the right parameters, can u pastebin ur menu.lst file?
[03:32] <dpupp> actually fighting to get my system online as well... but first i want to fix os.
[03:32] <dpupp> MrPiracy,  actually fighting to get my system online as well... but first i want to fix os.
[03:32] <u2pop> k
[03:32] <MrPiracy> dpupp, if u move it to the bottom, it will appear last
[03:32] <n2diy> chrisn2323: yes, a cable modem connected to a four port wireless router.
[03:32] <u2pop> where can i download the 8.10 ?
[03:33] <chrisn2323> then dont contact your isp n2diy
[03:33] <chrisn2323> log into your router
[03:33] <bruenig> u2pop: you can always dist-upgrade
[03:33] <sebsebseb> u2pop: i'll get you the link, also before burning the ISO you should md5sum the CD
[03:33] <chrisn2323> set a static ip for your computer
[03:33] <chrisn2323> port forward necessary ports
[03:33] <sebsebseb> bruenig: he dosan't have Ubuntu on the computer he is installing on yet
[03:33] <u2pop> md5sum for what?
[03:33] <Shawnc> Hello, can someone help me please? I get this error when ever I try to apt-get install stuff (http://pastebin.ca/1499686), then when I do the apt-get -f install like it says I get an error too (http://pastebin.ca/1499685), What can I do to fix this?
[03:33] <chrisn2323> then configure your linux box
[03:33] <thiebaude> !unetbootin
[03:33] <chrisn2323> to use static and not dhcp
[03:33] <MrPiracy> dpupp, opitionally u can install windows drivers to access ur linux partition and edit the file from windows where u have internet access
[03:33] <sebsebseb> u2pop: if you want to upgrade the 8.10  to 9.04 later you can, but  I think great idea to have 8.10 on one  and 9.04 on the other,  and as I already said clean install both once 9.10 is out
[03:34] <dewey> I asked this a few nights ago and didnt get an answer. I just installed ubuntu 9.04 and the keyboard/mouse works fine but as soon as i 'startx' neither are responsive. what could cause this ?
[03:34] <bthompso1> arand: now what
[03:34] <dpupp> MrPiracy, i get error 13: invalid or unsupported executabke format.. press any key.
[03:34] <bruenig> u2pop: should probably get both on the latest version
[03:34] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  u2pop
[03:34] <u2pop> k fine
[03:34] <MrPiracy> dpupp, what r u trying to do?
[03:34] <sebsebseb> bruenig: I disagree, since 8.10 is better than 9.04 in certain ways :)
[03:35] <dpupp> i put the example at the start of where all the other boot options show... uncommended. and just rebooted. nothing else edited.
[03:35] <n2diy> chrisn2323: ok, this sounds like a project that shouldn't be tackled at this time of night, thanks for the info.
[03:35] <u2pop> and what happens with 9.04 ?
[03:35] <dpupp> MrPiracy,  i put the example at the start of where all the other boot options show... uncommended. and just rebooted. nothing else edited.
[03:35] <bruenig> well then, he has two different opinions
[03:35] <sabily_> i need editor python on ubuntu
[03:35] <sebsebseb> bruenig: and he can do a clean install of both computers  with Ubuntu 9.10 when that's out
[03:35] <u2pop> too many bugs?
[03:35] <Shawnc> Hello, can someone help me please? I get this error when ever I try to apt-get install stuff (http://pastebin.ca/1499686), then when I do the apt-get -f install like it says I get an error too (http://pastebin.ca/1499685), What can I do to fix this?
[03:35] <bruenig> sebsebseb: clean installing in 3 months is obnoxious
[03:36] <bruenig> sebsebseb: who wants to go through and tinker and reconfigure everything in 3 months right after you have finished
[03:36] <MrPiracy> dpupp, which window version? do you know the partition number it is?
[03:36] <sebsebseb> bruenig: no it's  a good thing to do since Ext4 is the default file system :)  better than Ext3
[03:36] <thiebaude> bruenig: installing evething all over again
[03:36] <gogeta> Bookman: strange enough vlc fails on me
[03:36] <bruenig> thiebaude: do what now
[03:36] <dpupp> MrPiracy, if i choose the second option, it loads linux fine... but nothing with windows yet. what are the 0,0 and 0,1 numbers for?
[03:37] <gogeta> Bookman: just sits at wating for video
[03:37] <MrPiracy> dpupp, the first number is the drive number (if you only have one drive, it will be hd0
[03:37] <MrPiracy> dpupp, the second is the partittion number
[03:37] <Bookman> gogeta: on this machine with the sound issue I do not have mozilla-plugin-vlc installed
[03:37] <thiebaude> bruenig: the bad thing about a clean install is installing evrything again for me
[03:37] <bruenig> thiebaude: yes indeed
[03:37] <bruenig> thiebaude: I agree
[03:37] <u2pop> seb thanks
[03:38] <thiebaude> but i've done many clean installs before
[03:38] <sebsebseb> u2pop: I'll be clear on something,  with Ubuntu it's not about what is the latest, it's about what is supported,   and  8.10 is still good and supported untill April next year on the desktop,  of course  you  will have 9.10 before that anyway I expect
[03:38] <thiebaude> and dual boots
[03:38] <MrPiracy> dpupp, lets say your first partitition is linux and ur second is windows .... then ur windows grub command should be root (hd0,1) ... "1" is because the partition numbering starts with 0
[03:38] <server_> I have a big problem guys please help: I was trying to resize my harddrive with gui, then I guess I made a mistake in some configuration. when I start the PC grub was not working correctly. how can I can have my data back? I had 2 partiion in that machine xp and ubuntu 9.4. I have the ubuntu Cd inserted on the computer I just need instruction. Thank you in advance
[03:38] <u2pop> yep
[03:38] <u2pop> that right
[03:38] <zenlunatic> thiebaude, you can use synaptic to reload all your software on a clean ubuntu install
[03:38] <MrPiracy> dpupp, in this case, ur linux partition is (hd0,0) and your windows partition is (hd0,1)
[03:38] <dpupp> MrPiracy, i will switch to 0,1 and reboot.
[03:38] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: support is a big deal, i agree
[03:38] <zenlunatic> thiebaude, msg me if you want me to teach you
[03:38] <Shawnc> hi can someone help me please?
[03:38] <DasEi> Shawnc: when did this occur ?
[03:39] <bruenig> !ask | Shawnc
[03:39] <Shawnc> ah thanks
[03:39] <n2diy> Why would df show usb devices that aren't plugged in? I did have trouble umounting them, and just pulled them when I thought they were done being written to.
[03:39] <thiebaude> zenlunatic: yep, or apt-get install
[03:39] <juanbond> Hey guys, is there a way for me in Ubuntu to execute an exe file which basically extracts an ISO image?
[03:39] <Shawnc> bruenig: I have asked my question 2 times, I think  I can say can someone help me.
[03:39] <MrPiracy> dpupp,  u can try that ... the other commands are default for windows ... just makeactive then  chainloader +1
[03:39] <server_> :(
[03:39] <lilmopeep> Hi
[03:39] <DasEi> !wine | juanbond
[03:39] <Shawnc> Instead of repeating myself, thank you very much.
[03:39] <juanbond> I'm trying to get the vhd files from: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=21EABB90-958F-4B64-B5F1-73D0A413C8EF&displaylang=en#filelist
[03:39] <gogeta> Bookman: humm
[03:39] <server_> no help at all
[03:39] <bruenig> !repeat | Shawnc
[03:39] <dpupp> MrPiracy, uh-oh... now its going straight to windows without asking me what to load.
[03:39] <gogeta> Bookman: sounds workin fine on mplayer
[03:39] <lilmopeep> Hi
[03:39] <sebsebseb> u2pop: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/  and  the code you compare the md5sum check to  http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/MD5SUMS
[03:40] <gogeta> Bookman: listing to it noww
[03:40] <Shawnc> DasEi: around 2 seconds before I posted it
[03:40] <zenlunatic> thiebaude, you know about "save markings" in synaptic?
[03:40] <Shawnc> So around 5 minutes ago.
[03:40] <Bookman> gogeta: No problem....
[03:40] <jdu> server_, so you can either try to reinstall grub from a livecd and/or copy of the files you want and reinstall; which do you prefer?
[03:40] <thiebaude> zenlunatic: no i haven't
[03:40] <Shawnc> Hello, can someone help me please? I get this error when ever I try to apt-get install stuff (http://pastebin.ca/1499686), then when I do the apt-get -f install like it says I get an error too (http://pastebin.ca/1499685), What can I do to fix this? <-- 5 minutes ago.
[03:40] <MrPiracy> dpupp, set a timer ... at the begining of the file it has a commented line for the timeout setting
[03:40] <DasEi> Shawnc: heh, did you try an install, or an update ?
[03:40] <thiebaude> zenlunatic: and i've been using ubuntu for 4 yrs,lol
[03:40] <server_> jdu how can I do that can you help me please
[03:41] <zenlunatic> thiebaude, go to file->save markings then reinsall ubuntu and use that file it will install all packages on your wiped install to your new install
[03:41] <sebsebseb> u2pop: and  obviously you keep your data backed up and that, and  clean installing  Ubuntu  with 9.10,  won't be a big deal when it's time
[03:41] <server_> jdu I have live cd inserted what do I have to do at this point ?
[03:41] <thiebaude> zenlunatic: ok, thanks mate
[03:41] <zenlunatic> thiebaude, no need to do it manually
[03:41] <MrPiracy> dpupp, hehe, but now u go straight to windows. i think u'll have to boot from the live cd and edit the file form it
[03:41] <thiebaude> cool
[03:41] <jdu> server_, well, with regard to fixing the grub problem, I suggest finding an online tutorial.
[03:41] <sebsebseb> !md5sum >  u2pop
[03:41] <zenlunatic> thiebaude, np
[03:41] <thiebaude> i'll write that down
[03:41] <zenlunatic> just read that one on a blog
[03:41] <dpupp> MrPiracy, i hit esc and it popped up with a list to choose.
[03:42] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how to enable firebug for all sites for all time?
[03:42] <dpupp> MrPiracy,  almost there....
[03:42] <server_> jdu: thank you I'm on it
[03:42] <debac1e> how do I change default file associations? e.g. I want double-clicking xml files in nautilus to open in an editor rather than firefox
[03:42] <MrPiracy> dpupp, apparently all u need is the timer now
[03:42] <jdu> server_, to get your files, you should simply use the file browser to mount the hard drive partitions and get what you want off of them to back up (assuming you have have another drive)
[03:42] <Bookman> gogeta: Just hopeless on this machine I guess
[03:42] <Shawnc> Sorry, Disconnected.
[03:42] <Shawnc> Didn't mean too :P
[03:42] <u2pop> k i see the md5sum
[03:42] <MisterK85> Hey all, trying to setup an older laptop for my father (who, literally, can Blue Screen a Microwave)... is there an easy way. Its an older Toshiba w/ 96MB RAM, 4GB drive, and a AMD K-6 @ 333MHz.
[03:42] <arand> server_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:42] <u2pop> thanks for your help sebsebseb
[03:42] <u2pop> :D
[03:42] <sebsebseb> u2pop: the codes need to be the same
[03:42] <MrPiracy> dpupp, ohhh and dont forget to put the title before the windows boot commands ... each option needs a title
[03:42] <sebsebseb> u2pop: for a good ISO and np
[03:43] <Shawnc> DasEi: What were you saying?
[03:43] <thiebaude> zenlunatic: so, when i clean install 9.10 i just go back into synaptic ?
[03:43] <dpupp> MrPiracy, how do i add the timer?
[03:43] <thiebaude> after saving
[03:43] <DasEi> Shawnc: did you try an install, or an update ?
[03:43] <u2pop> yes i read that on md5 site
[03:43] <u2pop> :P
[03:43] <Bookman> gogeta: hey, I just installed VLC plugin and it just started working.  Still says waiting for video, but playing sound just fine.
[03:43] <zenlunatic> thiebaude, yeah
[03:43] <jdu> MisterK85, puppy linux?
[03:43] <thiebaude> great, i better save it now
[03:43] <Shawnc> What do you mean?
[03:43] <MisterK85> jdu: whats the sys reqs?
[03:43] <MrPiracy> dpupp, just add timeout		10
[03:43] <Shawnc> I tried an install like yesterday when I got that error first...
[03:43] <zenlunatic> thiebaude, not sure about configs though... like i don'[t know if you'll have to reconfig stuff
[03:43] <MrPiracy> dpupp, at the begining of the file
[03:44] <jdu> MisterK85, about that.  but it more user friendly than others with lower system requirements
[03:44] <arand> MisterK85: yes, ubuntu or any derivative will have a hard time on that one...
[03:44] <sebsebseb> u2pop: oh  another idea  you could do that Ubuntu 9.04  KDE 3  remix CD :)   then you  got the older and better KDE 3  on one computer,  and   Ubuntu's edited here and there Gnome on the other computer
[03:44] <dpupp> MrPiracy, time out 3 ... changing to 10
[03:44] <thiebaude> ok
[03:44] <Shawnc> apt-get install something or another, I can't remember dasei
[03:44] <DasEi> Shawnc: in asking when that occurred , did you put any third party soft on ore is an update failed ?
[03:44] <jdu> MisterK85, you don't want to use ubuntu for that.  You could try deli linux but it is a little harder to install and setup
[03:44] <zenlunatic> MisterK85, try #damnsmalllinux
[03:44] <dpupp> MrPiracy, ok, so now when the timer expires it goes to windows direct... unless i hit esc. how can i set it to go to linux direct if nothing is pressed?
[03:44] <debac1e> how do I change default file associations? e.g. I want double-clicking xml files in nautilus to open in an editor rather than firefox
[03:44] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: he left, he said ubuntu coming soon,lol
[03:44] <DasEi> Shawnc: jaunty ?
[03:45] <jdu> MisterK85, I don't suggest damn small linux for someone who can 'blue screen a microwave'
[03:45] <MrPiracy> dpupp, default   0
[03:45] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: oh well, but long live KDE 3 :)
[03:45] <MrPiracy> dpupp, again, 0 means the first option in ur file .... 1 for the next and so on
[03:45] <dpupp> MrPiracy,  default 0 is already there.
[03:45] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: yep
[03:45] <Shawnc> No, 9.04
[03:45] <dpupp> MrPiracy,  ah! i get it now
[03:45] <Shawnc> Hanty or something
[03:45] <Guest63220> hey guys how are you
[03:45] <dpupp> MrPiracy, THANKS!
[03:46] <MrPiracy> dpupp, no prob ;)
[03:46] <MisterK85> jdu: lol I used DSL before, not too fond on it. I rather something with a GNOME interface, and something, for the love of god, that can have a cut down applications menu.
[03:46] <Guest63220> i am from surinam
[03:46] <Shawnc> Ah
[03:46] <willm> !quit going to bed
[03:46] <DasEi> !who | Shawnc
[03:46] <Guest63220> and i would like to ask you guys how to configure a dns server in ubuntu
[03:46] <arand> MisterK85: jdu: The little I've seen of puppy, is absolutely horrible (no man pages, no frikking man pages!), but it still seems the most full-featured light-distro out there. I don'th think you will get gnome on those speacs without it running like thick syrup...
[03:46] <DasEi> Shawnc: jaunty so, what happens at: sudo apt-get update ?
[03:47] <MisterK85> jdu: honest to god, my father spent close on 15-20 minutes one day trying to use that microwave, and was pressing the time but not the power... had to actually "teach" him again.
[03:47] <Shawnc> How do I remove headers? when I boot my comp since it is dual booted, I get around 6 different linux headers I can boot, all ubuntu, how do I do this?
[03:47] <MrPiracy> where does xChat keep its config files?
[03:47] <Shawnc> How do I remove them, I have pre-released headers which messed it up. I figured it out I think.
[03:47] <FrankQC> MrPiracy: try .xchat under ~/home
[03:47] <MrPiracy> FrankQC, is there a way to access it from nautilus?
[03:47] <debac1e> MrPiracy: ~/.xchat2 looks promising
[03:48] <FrankQC> MrPiracy: When you're in /home, press Ctrl + H
[03:48] <JeXus> Hey im having issues updating an older version of ubuntu. I want to update from 6.10 to 9.40. i know i need to update to the in-between versions first, but when i go to update manager and i try to update to 7.04 it starts fetching files but then it says "A problem occured during the update. This is usually some sort of network problem." it then lists a dozen web adresses that "Failed to fetch files" from. can somone help me?
[03:48] <DasEi> Shawnc: easy item, your apt ?
[03:48] <arand> Shawnc: there are packages for each kernel version, remove them in synaptic.
[03:48] <MrPiracy> FrankQC, thx
[03:48] <Shawnc> synaptic?
[03:48] <DasEi> ..
[03:48] <FrankQC> MrPiracy: Then you'll see folders w/ periods, it's either .xchat or, as debac1e said, .xchat2
[03:48] <jdu> arand, I agree, especially as puppy runs everything as root and is more resource heavy now than it was once.  However, for those who want a 'user friendly' light distro, it is one of the best.  It 'just works' so to say
[03:48] <Kalmi> !software | Shawnc
[03:49] <jdu> MisterK85, puppy now suggests 128mb ram; gone are the days of 64mb ;(
[03:49] <MrPiracy> FrankQC, debac1e thx, i found it
[03:49] <arand> DasEi: Shawnc: btw, does computer janitor do that?
[03:49] <DasEi> arand: can advise that in menu.lst
[03:49] <server_> arand: "GRUB loading, please wait... Error 22" that all I am seeing how can I can fix it :(
[03:50] <DasEi> Shawnc:  what happens at: sudo apt-get update ?
[03:50] <Guest63220> how to ad windows client to my ubuntu domain
[03:50] <Guest63220> ?
[03:50] <kreg> after and update and upgrade, what does it mean when apt says it has a list of packages kept back?
[03:50] <Shawnc> one second dasei
[03:51] <kreg> linux generic, headers generic, etc..
[03:51] <Guest63220> please guys helpp me out
[03:51] <arand> server_: From grub manual "This error is returned if a partition is requested in the device part of a device- or full file name which isn't on the selected disk."
[03:51] <nztal> i have an aluminum apple wireless keyboard.  in jaunty i have to repair my keyboard after every reboot.  anyone know away to retain the pairing once its been done, for then on, after reboot, with bluetooth ?
[03:51] <DasEi> kreg: mostly unmet dependencies, they install later, when paketmanagement (> repos) came up
[03:52] <Shawnc> DasEi: When ever I try a command it won't work it just does "E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (1) on findutils"
[03:52] <kreg> DasEi, there is a gui that pops up and lists the same updates.   i can press a button and it installs those.   why can't i get them to install on the cml ?
[03:52] <lancerocke> anyone have skype installed on karmic x64?
[03:52] <server_> arand: what do I have to do to fix it
[03:52] <bthompso1> ok guys im getting no video now..im in recovery mode as that is all i can get to..i installed this application called envy that was supposed to install the ati drivers
[03:52] <arand> kreg: it means that it can not simply upgrade packages, it will need to install new ones and/or remove other ones to ensure dependencies are met...
[03:52] <DasEi> kreg: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:52] <kreg> i've already updated and upgraded
[03:53] <bthompso1> all i get on the screen is garbled video when i try to boot...
[03:53] <kreg> reboot into a new kernel?
[03:53] <DasEi> Shawnc: have you tried to to fix the findutils package ?
[03:54] <Shawnc> findutils?
[03:54] <DasEi> kreg: hold back packages are no cause to worry, they'll install later
[03:54] <DasEi> !info findutils | Shawnc
[03:54] <Shawnc> findutils is already the newest version.
[03:54] <arand> server_: problem probably is that grub cannot find the partition it was installed on, most likely the ubuntu partition, since it has been edited in some way... I think you need to reinstall grub in mbr (so that it points to the partition properly and may find the rest of the grub start data).
[03:54] <Shawnc> DasEi: findutils is already the newest version.
[03:54] <kreg> my question is....  why does the gui do it, and the cml does not?
[03:55] <porter1> Can someone explain what the games account is used for?
[03:55] <DasEi>  Shawnc : yes, but you get an error about it
[03:55] <Shawnc> yes, how do I fix the error?
[03:55] <NarbFarkus> Anyone know what the best option for fs with an SSD is?
[03:55] <DasEi> kreg : both do the same
[03:55] <server_> arand: I'm really new on this stuff what do I have to do to install grup. I have live cd handy can you give me step by step guidance I went to the site you have told me and I do not know actually what they are talking about
[03:56] <dpupp> Can someone explain how to get rid of the eye candy during bootup? I rather see flying text with everything verbose.
[03:56] <porter1> I'm trying to further improve security on my server, and there's around 20 accounts on the server by default, so I plan to disable them if they aren't used for anything important.
[03:56] <Shawnc> DasEi: how do I fixthat error?
[03:56] <MisterK85> whats the sys reqs of Xubuntu
[03:56] <kreg> i'm watching the gui install those remaing updates now.   the cml only reports that the same ones are held back.   just trying understand.
[03:56] <porter1> dpupp, try uninstalling usplash
[03:57] <arand> server_: I think I gave you the link before: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto ?
[03:57] <kreg> DasEi, i disagree.   after the gui installed the updates, "apt-get upgrade" not longer reports held back packages.   There IS something else UpdateManager did that apt did not.
[03:57] <dpupp> porter1, thanks i will try that.
[03:57] <arand> server_: look at section 7.
[03:57] <sebsebseb> dpupp: you can use a graphical program called startupmanager to do what you want to do
[03:57] <porter1> Anyone know what/why the games account is used for?
[03:58] <jacekowski> for games
[03:58] <jacekowski> it's owner for games files
[03:58] <DasEi>  Shawnc : as there no further infos about the circumstances, try to purge findutils and reinstall, you might have to d/l that package manually (correct version)
[03:58] <DasEi> kreg : just the time ?
[03:59] <Shawnc> What's the correct version I need? I'm new to ubuntu.
[03:59] <porter1> Well, then I guess I'll be disabling the games account, along with irc and all the other ones.
[03:59] <kreg> DasEi, new install of 9.04.  new to Ubuntu, but not new to linux.   So far only time i've seen it.
[03:59] <jacekowski> porter1: they are already locked
[03:59] <jacekowski> porter1: don't do anything else to them
[03:59] <jacekowski> porter1: or you will break your system
[03:59] <porter1> Hrm. That's confusing.
[04:00] <DasEi> kreg: if hold back, later on will install  trml><gui
[04:00] <porter1> Are they disabled somewhere beside /etc/passwd?
[04:00] <jacekowski> porter1: /etc/shadow
[04:00] <kreg> DasEi, oh well not big deal.   Just trying to get a grip on how this debian stuff works.   Thank yoU!
[04:00] <porter1> Hrm.
[04:00] <edge> u guys mind if i ask a question about windows?
[04:01] <sebsebseb> edge: depends on if the question is realted to Ubuntu in anyway or not
[04:01] <kreg> edge, i'd suggest just ask and see if you get shot.
[04:01] <porter1> Wait, so why are they necessary?
[04:01] <kreg> loads 12guage
[04:01] <arand> edge: there is always ##windows chan...
[04:01] <christopher> where can i find how much memory my systemhas?
[04:01] <jacekowski> porter1: because this and couple other accounts and groups are owners of most of system files
[04:01] <edge> I just installed windows xp and their are no drivers on it.... which means no internet due to their now being a driver for the network card.... I was wondering if anyone wouild know by chance how to fix this?
[04:02] <bazhang> edge, please take to ##windows
[04:02] <kreg> is the ubuntu domain control i hear about, able to be a domain controller like AD in server 2003 ?    Or is it still just a typical Samba running NT 4.0 style?
[04:02] <debac1e> christopher: look for "system monitor" in the applications menu
[04:02] <porter1> Yes, but it isn't going to hurt to not have access to /usr/games?
[04:02] <sebsebseb> edge: that's a kind of good thing,  if it results in you using another OS,  but  more seriously you should  take the question to ##windows
[04:02] <christopher> debac1e: i mean from console, im on server
[04:02] <edge> okay i have an ubuntu question.... Im a newbie and i have no clue how to use Wine
[04:02] <jacekowski> kreg: its better now in beta samba 4
[04:03] <thiebaude> !wine
[04:03] <kreg> wine putty.exe
[04:03] <NarbFarkus> /channel
[04:03] <sebsebseb> edge: you install it, and then try your .exe in it
[04:03] <edge> I want to run windows games on ubuntu really bad
[04:03] <jacekowski> kreg: but stil far away from replacement for windows server
[04:03] <bazhang> edge, install wine, then check the appdb to see if it supports your app