[00:58] <dude> Hello
[19:54] <Ampelbein> I'm not quite sure what LP: #1681007 is about. Is he asking that somebody takes over upstream development?


[18:07] <dfarning_laptop> hey dogi, would add my account and password to aslo3, I turned off aslo2, turned on aslo3 adn will to work on aslo3 three this afternoon.
[18:08] <dogi> ok


[14:31] <sarnold> good morning
[14:32] <slyon> o/
[14:34] <slyon> I'm not sure if we'll have a meeting today..
[14:35] <sarnold> yeahif it's just the two of us it probably doesn't make sense
[14:36] <sarnold> the only things that look newish on the agenda are raqm, libio-interactive-perl, and python-tzlocal on https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[14:36] <sarnold> two of those are foundations, and I suspect foundations is busy enough with new release opening that filing bugs on these isn't a priority at the moment
[14:39]  * sarnold -> off again :)


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[06:47] <PingunZ> Is there any way to *speed up* upstart by selecting the startup processes ?
[07:18] <AlexExtreme> PingunZ: you can use the service gui in System -> Administration -> Services i think
[07:19] <PingunZ> cool, thanks


[15:00]  * slangasek waves
[15:01] <ev> hi
[15:01] <slangasek> #startmeeting
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[15:01] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[15:02] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox stokachu)
[15:02] <slangasek> barry doko ev slangasek xnox stgraber jodh bdmurray stokachu cjwatson
[15:03] <barry> win!
[15:03] <barry> image based updates: better logging; consistency in nomenclature between wiki and code.  LP: #1191150.  LP: #1192586.  Fixing checksum checking.  weekly meeting.
[15:03] <barry> python bug 16499 (-I "isolation mode")
[15:03] <barry> flufl.bounce 2.2.1-1
[15:03] <barry> objectives; patch pilot; random bits of system administration; being evil w/my new debian beta capsule
[15:03] <barry> done
[15:05] <slangasek> doko's on holiday
[15:05] <slangasek> ev:
[15:05] <slangasek> ... "debian beta capsule"?
[15:05] <ev> ah right
[15:06] <ev> - Lots of planning our way out of the Cassandra ENOSPC hell with the webops
[15:06] <ev>   team:
[15:06] <ev>   https://wiki.canonical.com/InformationInfrastructure/OSA/Projects/InProgress/UE/CassandraSpace
[15:06] <ev>   - Simplified: we're moving to Cassandra on Prodstack and Ceph, fast.
[15:06] <ev>   - We're going to keep under 1TB per node, which should help us quite
[15:06] <ev>     significantly with compactions, enabling compression, general performance,
[15:06] <ev>     and dealing with losing a node.
[15:06] <ev>   - The existing DC cluster will become the testbed for compression and
[15:06] <ev>     Cassandra 1.2.5, then will get absorbed into Prodstack.
[15:06] <ev>   - We'll build a secondary cluster on Prodstack, in prep for having a hot
[15:06] <ev>     standby, further experimentation, and Hadoop.
[15:06] <ev> - Increasing our metrics via statsd and graphite significantly in preparation
[15:06] <ev>   for the Ceph move, so we can get a deep understanding of the performance
[15:06] <ev>   penalty. Also moving away from Cassandra for storing metrics as a matter of
[15:06] <ev>   consistency.
[15:06] <ev>   - Added a path to graphite on the retracers.
[15:06] <barry> slangasek: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraman
[15:06]  * barry is probably dating himself ;)
[15:06] <slangasek> :)
[15:06] <ev> I've been catching up on Cassandra SF and Cassandra NYC '13 videos in my free time, making thorough notes in the hope I can point people at the better talks
[15:06] <ev> (done)
[15:07] <ev> already proving helpful in discussions with James and Tom though
[15:08] <slangasek>  * discovering plymouth is somewhat on the floor on i386 (bug #1187318) and spending an inordinate amount of time trying to debug this
[15:08] <slangasek>  * ongoing work on supporting repartitioning of android devices at bootstrap time
[15:08] <slangasek>   * N7 has been given lower priority, so I no longer have to deal with the madness of the completely non-standard GPT on there
[15:08] <slangasek>   * instead, focused on worrying about getting parted support into the recovery image so we can use it
[15:08] <slangasek>  * objectives-wrangling
[15:08] <slangasek> (done)
[15:09] <xnox> * Upstart:
[15:09] <xnox>  - code review and merges for 1.9 release
[15:09] <xnox>  - discussions about plumbers upstart talk
[15:09] <xnox>  - upstart in debian, raising discussion about init scripts
[15:09] <xnox>  development + ongoing job forwarding / replying to maintainers'
[15:09] <xnox>  questions.
[15:09] <xnox> * android-cross-toolchain:
[15:09] <xnox>  - gcc4.8 built android images do not boot, whilst other compilations
[15:09] <xnox>  are ok (e.g. busybox binary works). Identified
[15:09] <xnox>  http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=57221 in progress to
[15:09] <xnox>  recompile and try toolchain with patch from above bug.
[15:09] <xnox> * miscellanious:
[15:09] <xnox>  - fixed fallout from ubiquity moving from gksudo to pkexec.
[15:09] <xnox>  bug #1193526 . Turns out pkexec, doesn't exec much on lxde/xfce.
[15:09] <xnox>  - synchronising packages & forwarding my ubuntu patches to debian.
[15:09] <xnox>  - merged e2fsprogs, uploaded hyphen-ru & oo.o-hyphenation to fix
[15:09] <xnox>  bug #1187250
[15:09] <xnox> done
[15:10] <jodh> * misc:
[15:10] <jodh>   - On holiday until Thursday 20th.
[15:10] <jodh>   - Working on Debconf and Plumbers presentations.
[15:10] <jodh> * Upstart:
[15:10] <jodh>   - Fixed and merged lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/bug-1188642
[15:10] <jodh>   - Merged lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/bug-1159895
[15:10] <jodh>   - Merged lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/libupstart.
[15:10] <jodh>   - Worked on lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/allow-multiple-cmdline-confdirs
[15:10] <jodh>     with xnox.
[15:10] <jodh>   - Release prep for Upstart 1.9 with xnox.
[15:10] <jodh> 𐎪
[15:10] <jodh> stgraber: oops - sorry! :)
[15:10] <stgraber> jodh: hey, that was my turn ;)
[15:10]  * bdmurray will wait
[15:10] <stgraber> Blueprint-related work:
[15:10] <stgraber>  - Image based updates (BLUEPRINT: foundations-1305-image-based-updates)
[15:10] <stgraber>   - Implemented some more tools (trigger the mirrors, generate keyring signatures, switched to sha256, ...)
[15:10] <stgraber>   - Pushed a few test images to the production server
[15:10] <stgraber>   - Opened RT to get the production GPG keys setup, should happen this week
[15:11] <stgraber>   - Had a couple of meetings on the subject
[15:11] <stgraber>   - Clarified some details in the specs
[15:11] <stgraber> Other work:
[15:11] <stgraber>  - Ubuntu touch
[15:11] <stgraber>   - Updated my test code for loop-mount images to work on nexus4 and nexus7
[15:11] <stgraber>   - Some more discussions on partitioning and containers
[15:11] <stgraber>   - Looked into cherry-picking pidns and mntns patches into the 3.4 kernel used on mako (to get lxc-attach working), seems trickier than expected but will spend some more time on it today.
[15:11] <stgraber>   - Discussed udev vs ueventd
[15:11] <stgraber>  - LXC
[15:11] <stgraber>   - Prototyped a minimal dbus service for LXC
[15:11] <stgraber>   - Discussed integration of upstream LXC with OpenStack
[15:11] <stgraber>   - Usual code reviews
[15:11] <stgraber>  - Release
[15:11] <stgraber>   - Alpha-1 release engineering work
[15:11] <stgraber>   - Landed a couple of fixes and tweaks to the QATracker for the self-service rebuild feature
[15:11] <stgraber>   - Landed the first version of the self-service rebuild tool on nusakan, running every 5 minutes
[15:11] <stgraber>  - Other
[15:11] <stgraber>   - Fixed openvpn component mismatch
[15:11] <stgraber>   - Did SRU validation of an ubiquity bug
[15:11] <stgraber>
[15:11] <stgraber> TODO:
[15:11] <stgraber>  - TODAY: Try to cherry-pick pidns+mntns support into our mako kernel (needs a few changes to the code to strip userns references)
[15:11] <stgraber>  - TODAY: Objectives
[15:12] <stgraber>  - THIS WEEK: Switch to production GPG keys
[15:12] <stgraber>  - THIS WEEK: Write a tool to convert Android system.img into .tar.xz format (similar to what we have for the rootfs)
[15:12] <stgraber>  - THIS WEEK: Integrate the system-image module with cdimage to publish updates to the daily channel as they appear
[15:12] <stgraber>  - Write some tools for manual actions on system-image (manage channels, manage keyrings, manually publish updates, ...)
[15:12] <stgraber>  - Process some pending merges (ifupdown and resolvconf)
[15:12] <stgraber>
[15:12] <stgraber> (DONE)
[15:12] <bdmurray> code reviews for evan
[15:12] <bdmurray> reported errors bug 1193022 regarding NotFound exception
[15:12] <bdmurray> worked around LP: #1186215 by adding laney to list of cached teams
[15:12] <bdmurray> modified phased-updater to account for something already set to 0
[15:12] <bdmurray> modified phased-updater email code to keep track of package versions
[15:12] <bdmurray> modified phased-updater to use a tmpfile during html report writing
[15:12] <bdmurray> modified phased updater to control sending email via a switch
[15:12] <bdmurray> modified phased-updater to have a switch for displaying full updates
[15:12] <bdmurray> merge proposal for phased-updater code
[15:12] <bdmurray> resolution of issue with date updated in arsenal team assigned report
[15:12] <bdmurray> readded update-notifier watching for avahi disabled for non upstart user sessions
[15:12] <bdmurray> worked on making package hooks part of update-notifier be an upstart user job
[15:13] <slangasek> xnox: so I noticed you said the toolchain won't be uploaded to the archive until next month... are you hedging?  What are the chances it'll still be uploaded this week?
[15:13]  * Laney giggles
[15:13] <bdmurray> tested bug 1181424 regarding dist-upgrades and rsyslog
[15:13] <bdmurray> tested bug 1062688 regarding apport (seems edubuntu specific)
[15:13] <bdmurray> triage of bug 1187250, 1193346
[15:13] <bdmurray> SRU verification of bug 1192332
[15:13] <ev> thanks for looking into those, bdmurray
[15:13] <bdmurray> ubuntu-classroom session regarding good bug reports
[15:13] <bdmurray> irc discussion with security team regarding bug 1094777 and copying the package to security
[15:13] <bdmurray> ⌁ done ⌁
[15:13] <stokachu> Need nomination approval for bug 1062265, Need Sponsorship for python-boto in the precise unapproved queue, Would like to get status update from cyphermox or others wrt bug 1004775, Need Upload/Sponsorship for bug 1187524
[15:14] <stokachu> sec
[15:14] <cjwatson> there's no nomination on bug 1062265, private bug
[15:14] <cjwatson> 1194901?
[15:14] <stokachu> yea copied the wrong one
[15:14] <cjwatson> no, that doesn't have any noms either ...
[15:14] <stokachu> bug 1068145
[15:14] <stokachu> there we go
[15:14] <stokachu> (done)
[15:15] <cyphermox> stokachu: I uploaded a NM to precise queue for 1004775
[15:15] <cyphermox> (last week)
[15:15] <cjwatson> approved those nominations
[15:15] <xnox> slangasek: if it compiles something that can be executed and doesn't segfault, if can be uploaded this week. working on making that to happen. Not sure what hedging means.... gardening term?!
[15:15] <stokachu> cjwatson: thanks
[15:15] <stokachu> cyphermox: was that to address comment 23 in that bug?
[15:16] <cyphermox> stokachu: yes
[15:16] <stokachu> (sorry i havent looked at the upload changelog)
[15:16] <stokachu> cyphermox: awesome thanks a bunch!
[15:16] <slangasek> xnox: hedging a bet, so that you don't lose everything if you bet wrong :)
[15:16] <slangasek> nothing related to shrubberies with a nice two-level effect
[15:16] <stokachu> oh and if anyone is friends with debian ftpmasters to please have them approve sosreport :D
[15:17] <cjwatson> community-s-autopkgtesting: Spent a fair bit of time on support, and chasing down strange migration failures.  Almost there now.  There's still a problem with failures getting lost, I think, although it seems to be on jibel's side.
[15:17] <cjwatson> foundations-1305-click-package: Finalised click-package 0.1 format; uploaded to saucy.  Discussed QtCreator integration with bzoltan.
[15:17] <cjwatson> foundations-r-phased-updates: Implemented "set phased update percentage on copy" API in LP.  Awaiting review (https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/copy-set-phase/+merge/170775).
[15:17] <cjwatson> foundations-1305-arm64-bringup: Trying to resurrect my autobuilder again.  Having trouble with Canonistack not doing what it's told.  Again.
[15:17] <cjwatson> Fixed https://launchpad.net/builders occasionally returning Forbidden (https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/builders-visibility/+merge/170818, https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/testfix-builders-visibility/+merge/170941).
[15:17] <cjwatson> Added another small LP API export required to allow managing chroots over the API (https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/das-removechroot-api/+merge/171125) and wrote a manage-chroot client tool for ubuntu-archive-tools.
[15:17] <cjwatson> Merges/syncs: mlocate, nginx, pacemaker, openhpi, patchutils, syslinux, java3d, collectd, sqlite3, haskell-hoogle, git-annex, raincat, haskell98-report, haskell-readline, libgdchart-gd2, hocr, findutils, console-tools, man-db, manpages-zh, libgd-gd2-perl, pytables, libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl, automake1.11, php-horde-whups, php-horde-wicked, crystalspace, polybori
[15:17] <cjwatson> Fixed software-properties autopkgtest.  I think.  Took several tries.
[15:17] <cjwatson> ..
[15:18] <slangasek> stokachu: 1062265 appears to be the private bug; is there a corresponding public bug filed against the package for this?
[15:18] <slangasek> ah, 1194901
[15:18] <cjwatson> no, 1068145, you're behind :)
[15:18] <stokachu> slangasek: cjwatson got it
[15:18] <stokachu> lol
[15:18] <slangasek> ok
[15:19] <xnox> slangasek: not intentionally.
[15:19] <stokachu> slangasek: cyphermox uploaded a new network-manager for bug 1004775
[15:21] <slangasek> xnox: well, I would say yes you're hedging, which is fine ;)  Just wanted to understand where things were and if you were still hoping to make progress this week
[15:21] <slangasek> stokachu: ack - will try to help get that SRU queue down this week (since I didn't last week, meh)
[15:22] <slangasek> any further discussion over statuses?
[15:22] <stokachu> cyphermox: bug 1187524 is that on your list to upload soon?
[15:22] <stokachu> slangasek: awesome, thanks man
[15:22] <cyphermox> stokachu: also in the queue: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/142753746/wpasupplicant_0.7.3-6ubuntu2.2_source.changes
[15:23] <stokachu> cyphermox: awesome, thanks again
[15:24] <slangasek> [TOPIC] system image updates
[15:24] <slangasek> ok, so we discussed last week having topics for deeper discussion
[15:24] <slangasek> I picked an easy one to start us off... stgraber and barry have plenty to tell us about system image updates :)
[15:24] <slangasek> remember, this isn't a lecture... ask questions!
[15:24]  * slangasek cedes the floor
[15:25] <barry> does anybody not know what system image updates is generally about?
[15:25] <slangasek> barry: maybe drop a blueprint / spec link, just in case?
[15:25] <barry> sure, sec...
[15:25] <stgraber> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImageBasedUpgrades
[15:26] <stgraber> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-1305-image-based-updates
[15:26] <barry> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image
[15:26] <barry> stgraber: do you want to start? :)
[15:26] <stgraber> sure
[15:27] <stgraber> So basically we're working on the update mechanism for touch devices. Those won't use the good old apt+dpkg combo but instead have that done in the DC and delta images pushed out to the users.
[15:28] <stgraber> the infrastructure is split into 3 main pieces, the server, the client and the upgrader
[15:28] <stgraber> barry is in charge of the client, ondra is in charge of the upgrader and recovery environment and I'm doing the server side of things
[15:29] <stgraber> What that means is that at least initially touch devices won't touch archive.ubuntu.com, instead they'll get full system updates from system-image.ubuntu.com and apps from the click package repository
[15:29] <slangasek> do you guys have an estimate of how much download savings this would give us today?
[15:31] <stgraber> probably not much as in the end we grab the same content, though in .tar.xz form so maybe slightly more compressed than some of our current packages and we'll skip some paths in the near future
[15:31] <barry> two things to consider, overall download size and number of connections.  certainly on the latter, it's vastly reduced (but not entirely trivial due to having to grab multiple data files and signature files)
[15:31]  * slangasek nods
[15:32] <stokachu> stupid question but will this be limited to wifi only?
[15:32] <slangasek> but a big benefit is increased reliability, and a less disruptive cadence of applying the updates
[15:32] <stgraber> the main advantage is on the install time/CPU side of things as we install those in the DC and then push a delta of the installed system, we don't need to run any maintainer script and so should be much faster at actually applying changes
[15:32] <slangasek> stokachu: I think that'll be configurable
[15:32] <stgraber> the other main advantage is that we know exactly what's on every devices as they're all identical
[15:32] <barry> stokachu: so, there's also this related thing called the download service
[15:32] <stgraber> this should make testing much much easier
[15:33] <stokachu> ah ok
[15:33] <stgraber> the downside however is that we required a reboot to apply updates as we're doing that from the recovery environment
[15:33] <stgraber> *require
[15:33] <barry> mainly it's being developed for apps, but we think it won't be too hard to adapt it to image updates too.  it'll be a generic dbus service that interfaces w/ui and settings, and downloads files for us.  it will support wifi-only, suspend/resume, etc.
[15:34] <barry> for now at least mandel is developing the download service
[15:35] <stokachu> its this a totally separate build infrastructure?
[15:35] <stgraber> at this point we have a working command line client thanks to barry, we have a mostly working server and have some test images of the updated recovery environment
[15:35] <xnox> QUESTION: in a flipped model what will be recovery environment? something akin android recovery or ubuntu's own recovery?
[15:35] <stgraber> I have hope of having all three pushed to test images by early next week so we can test the whole thing
[15:35] <stgraber> xnox: currently it's based on CWM, so Android
[15:36] <xnox> ack.
[15:36] <stgraber> it's not out of the question to switch to an Ubuntu based initrd for recovery, but we'd then have to port the Google tools to it (to allow for rollback to Android)
[15:36] <slangasek> stokachu: the image updates are built in much the same way as the install images; they'll be constructed from packages in the archive
[15:36] <stokachu> slangasek: gotcha
[15:36] <stgraber> so for now it seemed easier to hack the existing environment to include the tools we need (tar, xz and gpg)
[15:38] <slangasek> stgraber, barry: what's the overall plan for dealing with packages that have maintainer scripts that need to be run at upgrade time?
[15:39] <stgraber> slangasek: we haven't looked into that specifically, however we have a "bootme" flag we can set which forces a reboot after applying the update, so in such case, we'd need to have something trigger at boot, run the action and write a stamp file
[15:39] <slangasek> ok
[15:40] <stgraber> as far as I know, we haven't run into any of those yet as the number of files and directories I'm marking as persistent is very limited (basically just log files and NetworkManager config/state)
[15:40] <stgraber> but I expect we'll see some of that in the future
[15:40] <slangasek> I think you'll want to look at this sooner rather than later, as maintainer scripts can find themselves needing to do random things on the filesystem at any time :)
[15:40] <slangasek> and for the rest of the team, note this means that if you're adding things to maintainer scripts in the base system, you might want to flag those to stgraber + barry for consideration on how to handle in the image update case
[15:41] <stgraber> I expect we'll have a list of all persistent paths published somewhere once we've done the flip to read-only rootfs
[15:41] <cjwatson> Some kind of written guidance on which kinds of things matter would be good, yes
[15:41] <cjwatson> Since we'll have to keep up with Debian changes too, perhaps\
[15:41] <barry> these probably won't have any impact on the client, but will have a bigger impact on the recovery/updater
[15:41] <slangasek> barry: true
[15:41] <stgraber> after that, we'll need to be told of any maintainer script afecting some of those
[15:42]  * slangasek nods
[15:43] <xnox> ... and dpkg triggers
[15:43] <xnox> (to a lesser extend than interesting upgrade scripts)
[15:43] <slangasek> so I think this is going to need to be automated somewhere along the line... probably by something that examines the before/after while generating the update tarball
[15:43] <stgraber> now, something I didn't mention here yet, is that we have two types of updates we support, delta and full. Most users will be using delta images to get from where they are to the latest version. Full images are there for initial installation and for cases where we can't resolve a path using deltas (or where such a path would be larger than a full).
[15:44] <slangasek> and can give us a report of what needs to be handled
[15:45] <xnox> stgraber: interesting thought can't the cdimage builder take old image & upgrade it, instead of building afresh? thus executing maintainer scripts, at least to compare to a fresh build one to detect anomalies.
[15:45] <barry> the client looks at all possible paths from where you are to the latest version, then applies a configurable heuristic to the candidates to choose a winning upgrade path
[15:46] <stgraber> xnox: it could but I don't see what that'd give us. We're interested in maintainer scripts that change files that aren't in the base image, so analyzing changes to the base image won't help us there.
[15:46] <xnox> i see. ack.
[15:46] <barry> candidate selection does not take into account the bootme flag, but downloading/reboot does, so it's possible that a phone may need to do multiple such calculations to get to the latest version
[15:49] <stgraber> oh, one more thing worth mentioning, we plan on letting developers move to "developer mode"
[15:49] <stgraber> doing so will grab any required files we removed from the base image (such as /var/lib/dpkg /var/lib/apt), then write a stamp file letting the initrd know that / should be read-write
[15:50] <stgraber> from that point on, you can do whatever you want on the rootfs but won't be able to use barry's tool anymore (until you flash a new full image and remove the stamp file)
[15:50] <barry> LP: #1192577
[15:51] <slangasek> and then somewhere down the line, having some magic that let us install packages with apt-get *without* having to be in "developer mode" would be rather nice, for convergence
[15:51] <slangasek> but that's not a problem to solve for this cycle :)
[15:52] <stgraber> right, I have a work item to look into that for 14.04 but it's tricky :)
[15:52] <stgraber> if any of you want to test loop-mounted read-only saucy flipped image on your nexus4 or nexus7, you can use: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5801861/
[15:53] <stgraber> it needs a bunch of tools to be installed: abootimg, android-tools-adb, android-tools-fastboot and android-tools-fsutils
[15:54] <slangasek> and I understand flipped images are becoming the default this week some time
[15:54] <slangasek> (hurray!)
[15:54] <stgraber> it'll basically grab the current saucy rootfs and the current android for your device, patch those to work with loop-mount+read-only then generate a boot image and a system.img file to be uploaded to the data partition
[15:55] <stgraber> just boot your device into recovery mode before you run the script and it'll do everything for you
[15:55] <stgraber> slangasek: yeah, and hopefully flipped+read-only a bit after that
[15:55] <slangasek> indeed
[15:56] <stgraber> any questions? (4min left to the meeting)
[15:56] <slangasek> stgraber, barry: very exciting stuff, thanks for giving us a glimpse into your progress
[15:57] <barry> np!
[15:57] <stokachu> when can i start playing candy crush :)
[15:57]  * stokachu hides
[15:57] <stgraber> :)
[15:58] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:58] <slangasek> ok - anything else we should cover today?  (sorry, I should probably have asked for this /before/ going deep on system images)
[15:59] <slangasek> thanks to everyone who updated their work item status today
[15:59] <slangasek> and if you haven't already done so, please do :)
[15:59] <cjwatson> When Canonistack stops hating me I should be able to finish off my last couple
[16:00] <slangasek> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/canonical-foundations-ubuntu-13.06.html is still looking a bit unrealistic vs. the trendline... though better than yesterday
[16:00] <cjwatson> We should get the trendlines updated to reflect a realistic start point, mind
[16:01] <slangasek> that too :)
[16:02] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[16:02] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Jun 26 16:02:16 2013 UTC.
[16:02] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-06-26-15.01.moin.txt
[16:02] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-06-26-15.01.html
[16:02] <slangasek> thanks, everyone!
[16:02] <stgraber> thanks!
[16:02] <jodh> thanks
[16:02] <barry> thanks!


[16:58] <craptalk> hey guys, can you help a friend out here, how weird it is, i have been checking on my codes inserting data into phpmyadmin database but there was no luck at all, but i tried the same code in windows system, it worked out, why? i am using ubuntu mate 15.04, LAMP SERVER they called here for xampp
[16:58] <ioria> R13ose, http://askubuntu.com/questions/79953/why-does-plymouth-start-so-late/79959#79959
[16:58] <craptalk> localhost and all runs perfectly when i checked it on my browser
[16:59] <craptalk> just cant insert any data into phpmyadmin, so damn weird and frustrating
[17:00] <craptalk> do i have problem with my installation or something?
[17:00] <Norbin> MonkeyDust: reason why I am asking is back I used to have lots of issues few months back with that gpu and I was wondering if it got any better.
[17:00] <R13ose> ioria: thanks I will try and come back
[17:00] <ioria> R13ose, good luck
[17:00] <R13ose> thanks
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> Norbin  better describe the symptoms, maybe someone recognizes the issue
[17:02] <javier_> Hello, can anyone help me with a VPN connection? I am connected to the VPN but the browser seems to not recognize it, or to not route the traffic through the VPN and hence I dont have access to my institution services
[17:03] <BluesKaj> javier_, m ake sure you refresh the bowser before checking the IP with the vpn connection
[17:06] <javier_> Yes I do it. Also I close the browser and open again
[17:06] <javier_> BluesKaj:
[17:06] <BluesKaj> what vpn protocol are you using , javier_ ?
[17:06] <javier_> vpnc
[17:07] <javier_> if I do an ifconfig command
[17:07] <javier_> I see the "tun0" connection
[17:07] <javier_> with the IP of my institution
[17:07] <R13ose> ioria: this worked out.
[17:08] <ioria> R13ose, glad to hear that
[17:08] <R13ose> Now I want to change the boot theme
[17:08] <javier_> but the browser, when I visit a webpag where I know I have access, the browser ignores it
[17:11] <BluesKaj> javier_, I'm not familair with vpnc connections, those are a cisco tunnel and I don't how it interacts with network manager
[17:12] <Norbin> MonkeyDust: looks like kernel 4.3 fixed them all, any idea if that kernel version supports 14.04.4?
[17:12] <javier_> ok BluesKaj, thank you anyway
[17:12] <tete_> whats the channel name for xenial/beta/alpha?
[17:12] <fearnothing> hi, quick question about software raid
[17:13] <DJones> tete_: #ubuntu+1
[17:13] <tete_> thanks
[17:13] <Industrial> Hi
[17:13] <Industrial> I get an error installing a ruby gem
[17:13] <fearnothing> if I have two devices in sw raid and I want to move back to only a single device with the data, do I need to move all the data off first?
[17:13] <Industrial> https://gist.github.com/Industrial/58e9798bc38afa37917f
[17:13] <fearnothing> it's just a mirror
[17:13] <Industrial> mkmf.rb can't find header files for ruby at /usr/lib/ruby/include/ruby.h
[17:13] <Industrial> What package do I need?
[17:14] <Industrial> got it, it's `ruby-dev`
[17:14] <Anthony-L> man, ubuntu does not like my hardware.
[17:14] <tete_> fearnothing, i think you can simply delete the raid if its really just a mirror, but not 100% sure
[17:15] <Anthony-L> for 2 whole days i've been trying to install it with no success.
[17:15] <tete_> in any way: i would create a backup before
[17:15] <DaniKitten> Hi
[17:15] <fearnothing> tete_ the data on it isn't very valuable - it's logs in my lab environment
[17:15] <alkisg> Anthony-L: what's the exact issue?
[17:15] <tinyalpha> what the hell is ubuntu
[17:15] <DaniKitten> Ubuntu is an operating system
[17:16] <tete_> no, its a distribution. but dont feed the troll i suggest
[17:16] <DaniKitten> Ubuntu is an operating system, based on Linux
[17:16] <tinyalpha> alex keaton
[17:16] <Anthony-L> alkisg: my problem is after install of ubuntu, i get blank black screen.
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> Norbin  not sure, 3.19 here, for 14.04.4
[17:17] <ioria> !nomodeset
[17:17] <alkisg> Anthony-L: but you do get a graphics mode in the live cd? i.e. installation works out fine?
[17:17] <Anthony-L> alkisg: it's hit or miss.
[17:18] <alkisg> Anthony-L: which graphics card?
[17:18] <Anthony-L> i bet you can guess, nvidia gtx 970
[17:18] <alkisg> Anthony-L: and which ubuntu version?
[17:18] <Anthony-L> 15.10
[17:19] <Anthony-L> i'm reinstalling ubuntu again.
[17:19] <tete_> DaniKitten, linux is an operating system, depending on the definition term
[17:19] <DaniKitten> Linux is the kernel
[17:19] <DaniKitten> GNU/Linux is an operating system
[17:19] <alkisg> Anthony-L: maybe you could also try 16.04, the more recent nouveau there might recognize your card better
[17:19] <tete_> and now read the wiki page about operating system and what it should provide
[17:20] <tete_> and you will see that the kernel already has all that stuff
[17:20] <tete_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system#Linux
[17:20] <BluesKaj> javier_, do you have network-manager-vpnc installed?
[17:20] <DaniKitten> and Ubuntu is an OS based on GNU/Linux
[17:20] <Anthony-L> alkisg: where do i download 16.04? ubuntu doesn't have that on their site.
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> Anthony-L  16.04 is not out yet
[17:20] <DaniKitten> Try to download the 12.04
[17:20] <BluesKaj> !xenail | Anthony-L
[17:20] <Anthony-L> go figure
[17:20] <tete_> no DaniKitten ubuntu is a distribution(!) which ships the kernel and some other stuff
[17:20] <alkisg> Anthony-L:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[17:21] <DaniKitten> 12.04 is old, but probably was corrected a lot
[17:21] <BluesKaj> !xenial
[17:21] <DaniKitten> and now is almost perfect and will not have errors
[17:21] <javier_> Hello, can anyone help me with a VPN connection? I am connected to the VPN but the browser seems to not recognize it, or to not route the traffic through the VPN and hence I dont have access to my institution services
[17:22] <Anthony-L> i'm downloading 16.04
[17:22] <BluesKaj> javier_, I just asked you if you installed network-manager-vpnc
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> Anthony-L  expect errors and stability issues
[17:22] <DaniKitten> 12.04 is faster to be downloaded
[17:22] <Anthony-L> monkeydust: im already getting all that anyway with 14.04 adn 15.10
[17:22] <javier_> Yes, I installed it
[17:22] <javier_> BluesKaj:
[17:23] <tgm4883> I wouldn't install 12.04 at this poing
[17:23] <DaniKitten> 756 MB instead of 1.0 GB with 14.04
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> Anthony-L  cynic
[17:23] <javier_> Sorry I don't read your comment BluesKaj
[17:23] <Anthony-L> :)
[17:24] <BluesKaj> javier_, did you setup network manager to connect via vpnc to your server ?
[17:24] <notalentgeek> How do I find files with a path length greater than 260 characters in Linux? In Windows I can just do this cmd /c dir /s /b |? {$_.length -gt 260}.
[17:24] <tete_> maybe someone here can help me. i try to connect by command line to my wlan but it does not work. i created /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf and started the service - i can see it with ps aux. when i try wpa_cli i get:  Could not connect to wpa_supplicant: (nil) - re-trying
[17:25] <tgm4883> Anthony-L: If you are having issues, installing a different version rather than just trying to find fixes for the issues is just delaying the inevitable.
[17:25] <javier_> BluesKaj: Yes. I have configured the connection and know I am connected to it. I have the "tun0" connection and also I have IP of my institution.
[17:25] <javier_> BluesKaj: It seems that it is a problem more related to the browser rather than the connection
[17:25] <Anthony-L> tgm4883: i've been in here troubleshooting with everyone. i've already accepted the inevitable. it's obviously a hardware issue.
[17:26] <BluesKaj> javier_, then it could be a userm=name or password issue ?
[17:26] <j09> Hey guys. I've just installed Chromium and it's companion the pepperflash plugin, however I can seem to get Chromium to see the flash plugin. It doesn't show up in chrome://plugins . I'm running 16.04 beta 1.
[17:26] <ioria> notalentgeek, try find -regextype posix-extended -regex '.{261,}'
[17:26] <BluesKaj> which browser, javier_?
[17:27] <javier_> BluesKaj: Nope, if it could be a problem of username or password I cannot establish the connection, but I am connected.
[17:27] <ioria> Anthony-L, have you tried nomodeset ?
[17:27] <javier_> BluesKaj: Firefox
[17:27] <Anthony-L> javier_: yes
[17:27] <BluesKaj> j09, use chrome instead or FF with the freshplayer plugin
[17:27] <gebbione> i just copied my main HD to a new one, now i think grub is still looking for the old hardisk as i get an error during boot saying the disk with UUID (old disk uuid) could not be found
[17:27] <tgm4883> notalentgeek: try something like "find /path/to/dir | grep '.\{260\}' "
[17:28] <javier_> Anthony-L: yes?
[17:28] <Anthony-L> yes
[17:28] <notalentgeek> ioria, It does nothing. I put it in Terminal it just returned ">" and I need to CTRL + C to get my normal input back.
[17:28] <tgm4883> oh, ioria's is probably better
[17:28] <j09> I'd rather us Chromium if its all the same BluesKaj
[17:28] <tgm4883> notalentgeek: did you put both quotes that ioria mentioned? Sounds like you didn't
[17:28] <ioria> Anthony-L, without 'try'
[17:28] <ioria> notalentgeek,  without 'try'
[17:29] <DaniKitten> What features have 14.04 not founded on 12.04 on Ubuntu
[17:29] <javier_> Anthony-L: what yes? I dont't know what are you referring
[17:29] <Anthony-L> javier, i've tried nomodeset a million times.
[17:29] <tgm4883> DaniKitten: huh?
[17:29] <ioria> javier_, it was for me
[17:29] <Anthony-L> i've been through the process of nomodeset a million times.
[17:29] <javier_> Ahm, ok. haha
[17:30] <javier_> a cross-conversation
[17:30] <Anthony-L> please, dont try to troubleshoot my problem. i've already simply said it's a hardware issue. my gpu hates linux.
[17:30] <notalentgeek> ioria, tgm4883, Okay I forget the super user :)). This is for the whole directory that is 260 long right?
[17:30] <notalentgeek> ioria, tgm4883, Anyway thank you!
[17:30] <ioria> notalentgeek,  no problem
[17:31] <javier_> BluesKaj: Well, it is not a problem of the browser. Chrome also ignores the VPN IP
[17:32] <DaniKitten> What features have 14.04 not founded on 12.04 on Ubuntu
[17:32] <DaniKitten> I'm downloading 12.04
[17:32] <notalentgeek> Hello, I have another question what is the best file system that can move > 4GB and working for both Windows and Linux?
[17:32] <frostschutz> notalentgeek, ntfs?
[17:33] <notalentgeek> frostschutz, Can NTFS be used in Linux?
[17:33] <DaniKitten> with ntfs-3g you can
[17:33] <notalentgeek> frostschutz, I thought Linux can only read and write ext and FAT.
[17:33] <j09> Is anyone available to help? I've just installed Chromium and it's companion the pepperflash plugin, however I can't seem to get Chromium to see the flash plugin. It doesn't show up in chrome://plugins . I'm on 16.04
[17:33] <BluesKaj> javier_, are you checking with http://www.ip-tracker.org/ , it will show the IP and vpn connection IP as long as you refresh the browser first
[17:34] <notalentgeek> DaniKitten, So NTFS-3G is just like the best solution for my problem at this moment?
[17:34] <frostschutz> notalentgeek, unless you want to try your luck with strange ext4 drivers for windows, yes
[17:34] <DaniKitten> I can with Puppy Linux, you probably can with Ubuntu
[17:35] <gebbione> notalentgeek, i have a drive mounted on ntfs-3g used on my ubuntu for data
[17:35] <gebbione> it has weird permissions but still works
[17:36] <sacusa> hello people
[17:36] <javier_> BluesKaj: The VPN ip is not shown
[17:36] <notalentgeek> frostschutz, gebbione, Okay I will try to format my backup HDD into NTFS-3G
[17:37] <sacusa> i need some help
[17:37] <javier_> BluesKaj: only my ISP ip, but nothing about the VPN
[17:37] <BluesKaj> javier_, what shows, your IP?
[17:37] <j09> I've just installed Chromium and it's companion the pepperflash plugin, however I can't seem to get Chromium to see the flash plugin. It doesn't show up in chrome://plugins . I'm on 16.04
[17:37] <BluesKaj> javier_, refresh your browser?
[17:38] <gebbione> j09, why don't u use chrome? forget about chromium, in my experience is not kept up to date
[17:38] <BluesKaj> javier_, or clear the cache
[17:38] <javier_> BluesKaj: yes, yes. I have refreshed the browser and only my ISP ip is shown. No info about the VPN ip
[17:39] <j09> gebbione I'm asking to fix a problem, please help.
[17:39] <j09> gebbione this was never a problem on Manjaro
[17:41] <notalentgeek> How can you just format HDD into HTFS-3G using GParted?
[17:42] <j09> Does anyone else here use Chromium with pepperflash?
[17:42] <gebbione> i just copied my main HD to a new one, now i think grub is still looking for the old hardisk as i get an error during boot saying the disk with UUID (old disk uuid) could not be found
[17:42] <gebbione> what can i do to fix this?
[17:42] <gebbione> notalentgeek, does it give you the option?
[17:42] <javier_> BluesKaj: Neh, I cleared the cache but nothing different
[17:42] <notalentgeek> gebbione, Nothing in my GParted.
[17:43] <javier_> I close and open browser, re-config the network configuration inside Firefox, but nothing
[17:43] <notalentgeek> gebbione, I just installed it with sudo-apt so I guess my GParted is quite update.
[17:44] <notalentgeek> gebbione, Or it is just NTFS in GParted?
[17:45] <gebbione> i think so, ntfs-3g i think is the package to mount ntfs  filesystems
[17:45] <SchrodingersScat> notalentgeek: can go to View -> File System Support
[17:45] <gebbione> unfortunately i need to fix my boot loading issue at the moment or i would share also how i mount it
[17:47] <BluesKaj> javier_, can you ping the server IP
[17:47] <notalentgeek> SchrodingersScat, Okay that is quite informative thanks!
[17:50] <j09> I've just installed Chromium and it's companion the pepperflash plugin, however I can't seem to get Chromium to see the flash plugin. It doesn't show up in chrome://plugins . I'm on 16.04
[17:50] <SchrodingersScat> !16.04 | j09
[17:51] <gebbione> is it actually worth upgrading from 14.04 ?
[17:51] <SchrodingersScat> That is up to you?
[17:51] <j09> Thanks SchrodingersScat
[17:51] <SchrodingersScat> welcome
[17:52] <Anthony-L> why isn't my computer seeing the 16.04 .iso file? i can't put the image on the usb stick.
[17:53] <SchrodingersScat> Anthony-L: can you cd to the directory and confirm it exists?
[17:54] <Anthony-L> shrod: it's on my desktop...
[17:54] <SchrodingersScat> Anthony-L: what you are using to try to image is also helpful.
[17:55] <Anthony-L> i'm using the Universal USB installer.
[17:55] <Anthony-L> the one from ubuntu website.
[17:55] <j09> SchrodingersScat No-one seems to be around to help. I really wish I could get this worked out.
[17:58] <BluesKaj> j09, we already told you to use chrome, do you actually read our responses?
[17:59] <Anthony-L> now i can't mount the .iso image to usb for some odd reason.
[17:59] <j09> BluesKaj Of course. And I told you I'd rather not. I'm sorry if I'm being irritating.
[18:00] <SchrodingersScat> if it's an iso file then it should be found when you navigate to the desktop then, not sure what else could be stopping it.
[18:00] <Anthony-L> yea, i don't know either.
[18:00] <BluesKaj> j09, then stop repeating your question because chromium is out of date
[18:00] <ioria> Anthony-L, you mean that when you press 'Browse' button, it does not find the iso ?
[18:01] <Anthony-L> ioria: yes, i can see it as clear as day on my desktop.
[18:01] <Anthony-L> i can't see when i browse.
[18:01] <j09> BluesKaj It's not though.
[18:01] <ioria> Anthony-L,  you selected 'Ubuntu' in Step 1 ?
[18:01] <Anthony-L> ioria: yes
[18:01] <krc> How do I do a manual upgrade?
[18:02] <ioria> Anthony-L,  scroll down and try Unlisted Linux iso
[18:02] <krc> My install is too old, the upgrade tool doesn't work
[18:02] <Anthony-L> ioria: that did it, thank you.
[18:02] <ioria> Anthony-L,  ok
[18:03] <Anthony-L> ioria: how are you sending me direct messages on here? just curious
[18:04] <Anthony-L> i hear a beep.
[18:04] <ioria> Anthony-L,  direct message ? you mean Tab auto-complete  ?
[18:04] <Anthony-L> i think so, like right when you just sent me that message, i heard the beep and your name is in red text.
[18:04] <ioria> Anthony-L,  that depends on your ring settings
[18:05] <Anthony-L> i just want to be able to communicate with you guys better. how are you doing this?
[18:06] <krc4267|ubuntu> *krc is now known as krc4267|ubuntu
[18:06] <krc4267|ubuntu> had 2 clients open by accident
[18:06] <ioria> Anthony-L, you use tab for auto-complete (highlight) and then configure your irc client ...
[18:06] <ioria> Anthony-L, sound settings, depends on your client
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> Anthony-L  type ant and then hit tab to autocomplete
[18:07] <Anthony-L> anth0ny_: did this work?
[18:07] <alkisg> j09: how did you install the flash plugin? it's in partner/proposed in 16.04
[18:08] <ioria> Anthony-L,  for him, i guess so :þ
[18:08] <alkisg> j09: it works fine here for me
[18:08] <j09> alkisg I just installed the pepperflash plugin from the repos.
[18:08] <alkisg> j09: the pepper flash plugin is deprecated
[18:08] <Anthony-L> yea, tab does nothing.
[18:08] <alkisg> j09: install adobe-flashplugin from the parter/proposed repo
[18:08] <alkisg> It includes the pepper plugin
[18:09] <alkisg> j09: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial-proposed partner
[18:10] <Anthony-L> ?
[18:17] <Remind> What's the update and full upgrade command again? Sorry
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> Remind  sudo apt update;sudo apt full-upgrade
[18:18] <Remind> So sudo apt update && apt full-upgrade ?
[18:19] <Remind> And thank you MonkeyDust :)
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> Remind  semicolon will work too
[18:19] <Remind> Really?? That's awesome!
[18:19] <Remind> I'm such a noob, lmao
[18:19] <alkisg> && will only continue if the first command succeeded
[18:19] <alkisg> ; will continue even if the update failed
[18:20] <alkisg> So && is a bit more safe
[18:20] <hggdh> Remind: semi-colon makes them two independent commands; the '&&' causes the second 'apt' command to *only* be executed if the first one ended without errors
[18:21] <Anthony-L> i'm at the ubuntu install screen. do i select 'download updates while installing ubuntu' and click 'install third party software for graphics and wifi, flash etc'?
[18:22] <alkisg> Anthony-L: yup
[18:22] <Anthony-L> alkisg, thankys
[18:22] <Anthony-L> thanks*
[18:22] <alkisg> :)
[18:23] <Anthony-L> ok, another message, it says 'continue in UEFI mode' ? do i do this?
[18:23] <Anthony-L> i'm doing a fresh format/install.
[18:24] <tgm4883> Anthony-L: if that is 16.04, you should really be asking for support in #ubuntu+1
[18:25] <parsecChar> way OT: I have a usb printer -- is there some usb-wireless plug I can use to make my usb printer wireless ?
[18:28] <ioria> parsecChar,  do you have  a USB port on your wireless router ?
[18:28] <parsecChar> ioria: unfortunately, no
[18:29] <ioria> parsecChar,  then you may need a Wireless Print Server...
[18:32] <homa> hi my friends
[18:33] <bozsikarmand> Hi! Maybe my question will be a bit off-topic but I have been searching for hours in Google to find a howto/tutorial to configure freeradius but without no luck. I have a soho router in which I have to provide radius server ip, port and password to use WPA2-Enterprise encryption. Also I have a raspberry pi 1st gen as a server with raspbian and freeradius installed. What should I do next?
[18:33] <bozsikarmand> Thanks
[18:36] <paul_> is there some package that makes all the stuff on a macbook work better in ubuntu i.e. backlight keys using the sensor properly?
[18:41] <Mobutils> paul_: check out pommed…
[18:45] <rileymat> How do I force Dash to find an application?  I installed emacs through the software center yesterday, but it still will not be found in Dash.  I can run it from the terminal, so I know it is installed.  Is there some way to force the indexing of a directory or something?
[18:48] <newbie> HI
[18:48] <ioria> rileymat, can you paste  /usr/share/applications/emacs24.desktop ?
[18:49] <rileymat> [Desktop Entry]
[18:49] <rileymat> Version=1.0
[18:49] <rileymat> Name=GNU Emacs 24
[18:49] <rileymat> GenericName=Text Editor
[18:49] <ioria> no
[18:49] <rileymat> Comment=View and edit files
[18:49] <rileymat> MimeType=text/english;text/plain;text/x-makefile;text/x-c++hdr;text/x-c++src;text/x-chdr;text/x-csrc;text/x-java;text/x-moc;text/x-pascal;text/x-tcl;text/x-tex;application/x-shellscript;text/x-c;text/x-c++;
[18:50] <ioria> rileymat, don't paste in here ... paste.ubuntu.com
[18:50] <rileymat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15311401/
[18:52] <ioria> rileymat, replace Icon = bla  with Icon=emacs  , logout/login or restart Unity
[18:54] <rileymat> Thanks that worked.
[18:54] <ioria> rileymat, ok
[18:57] <Remind> Once I get Ubuntu MATE configured and work out all of the GPU kinks, is there a way to make a backup incase something goes wrong in a few days?
[19:00] <fearnothing> hi, got an odd problem with a partition
[19:00] <fearnothing> I've been using a software raid to do something and I no longer want that
[19:01] <fearnothing> so I attached a replacement device, partitioned and formatted, and used rsync to copy all of the mdadm raid volume to the new device
[19:01] <fearnothing> (it was housing splunk)
[19:01] <fearnothing> then I unmounted the raid from its location and mounted the new device in the same place and tested
[19:01] <fearnothing> all the files I wanted were there, and splunk worked
[19:01] <fearnothing> then I rebooted
[19:01] <fearnothing> now there is nothing on the new device
[19:01] <fearnothing> why? what happened?
[19:02] <raddad> can i install ubuntu on a 32 gb usb flash desk
[19:02] <tgm4883> fearnothing: did you tell it to not mount the raid anymore?
[19:02] <fearnothing> tgm4883 - yes, and the raid devices are physically (well, kinda, it's a VM) disconnected
[19:03] <tgm4883> fearnothing: did you tell it to mount the new drive on boot (in /etc/fstab)
[19:03] <fearnothing> not on boot, but I mounted it manually afterwards
[19:03] <tgm4883> fearnothing: so you've  manually mounted it and the dir is empty now?
[19:04] <fearnothing> yup
[19:04] <akik> raddad: yes
[19:04] <tgm4883> fearnothing: if you unmount it, is it still empty?
[19:04] <fearnothing> hmm, when I tell it to unmount, it says it wasn't mounted
[19:04] <fearnothing> yet when I told it to mount, it didn't give me any error
[19:04] <tgm4883> fearnothing: well there's your problem
[19:04] <tgm4883> fearnothing: what command did you use to mount it?
[19:05] <jonascj> UEFI booting with ubuntu, do I need to do anything special or just proceed as normal (i.e. /boot will not have a separate mount point)
[19:05] <fearnothing> mount /dev/sdb1 /storage
[19:05] <tgm4883> fearnothing: and how did you try to unmount?
[19:05] <fearnothing> umount /storage
[19:05] <tgm4883> fearnothing: ok, so mount it again, then do just 'mount' it should tell you what is mounted
[19:06] <fearnothing> sdb1 is not listed, tgm4883
[19:06] <BluesKaj> !UEFI | jonascj
[19:06] <tgm4883> fearnothing: I'm assuming you were using sudo to mount?
[19:06] <fearnothing> I'm currently root
[19:07] <tgm4883> fearnothing: check dmesg for errors
[19:07] <fearnothing> remind me where that's located?
[19:07] <tgm4883> fearnothing: 'dmesg'
[19:08] <fearnothing> oh lol
[19:08] <fearnothing> nope, the most recent messages are "EXT4-fs (sdb1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)"
[19:09] <fearnothing> hmm interesting
[19:09] <fearnothing> if I try to mount it at a different directory, it works
[19:09] <raddad> akik : so what could go wrong, ill search the steps on the internet but if u know tell me about the disadvantages somethings that i shouldn't forget
[19:10] <jonascj> BluesKaj: So an EFI partition which is to be mounted as /boot/efi if partitioning manually
[19:10] <tgm4883> fearnothing: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab
[19:11] <akik> raddad: when i installed kubuntu on a usb stick i just selected the usb stick as the target and selected that grub should be installed to the usb stick
[19:12] <raddad> akik : so it will work when it's plugged like it's installed on the harddisk
[19:13] <raddad> akik : when it's not i will have no linux
[19:13] <fearnothing> tgm4883 - give me a minute, just fixing some permissions
[19:14] <akik> raddad: yes the partition setup will see the usb stick as a /dev/sdX
[19:14] <raddad> akik : does it affect the performance ?
[19:16] <akik> raddad: well it's probably not as fast as your hdd/ssd but it's a way to run linux off a usb stick
[19:18] <raddad> akik : i think with 32 gb 250/120 mbps usb stick that want be a prob.. would it be ?
[19:19] <akik> well how can i know? test it
[19:23] <MiniFridge> How do I get out of a current prompt in Ubuntu? ctrl+q?
[19:23] <MiniFridge> *Ubuntu Server
[19:23] <MiniFridge> It's asking me for a new password and that's not what I wanted to do
[19:23] <fearnothing> tgm4883 - I seem to have solved it, the issue was even though there was nothing mounted at /storage, there was still some kind of a lock on the directory
[19:24] <fearnothing> I think it was trying to mount the old RAID there and failing because the device UUID no longer existed
[19:24] <fearnothing> and that caused the lock, and doing umount /storage wouldn't work because of it
[19:24] <fearnothing> but I replaced the old UUID with the one of the new device and restarted
[19:24] <fearnothing> and now it's fine
[19:24] <fearnothing> does that make sense?
[19:25] <haom> hello, the latest ubuntu kernel update bricked by laptop, is there a way to flag this update so that it isnt pushed to other people with the same hardware?
[19:26] <iGoBy_JOSHUA> all my drones run UBUNTU all ready for the annual Bohemian Grove Protest this year! Drone the Grove 2016!
[19:26] <tgm4883> haom: you'd have to file a bug on launchpad
[19:27] <haom> tgm4883: can you point me to what topic exactly I would have to file the bug for?
[19:28] <tgm4883> haom: 'ubuntu-bug <packagename>' I think the package name is linux-image-<version>
[19:28] <tgm4883> !bug
[19:29] <haom> tgm4883: thanks, I'll try. it was a laptop that sold preinstalled with 14.04, its a shame that updates brick preinstalled LTS laptops.
[19:37] <designbybeck_> I'm new to Ultra High Displays.. I'm on a new Asus Zenbook ux303. I changed the Apperence to +2 ish so I could read the text and such. The login still seems TINY. Are there any other tips and tricks I need to know about working with ultra high displays with Ubuntu 15.10?
[19:40] <EriC^^> how do you delete stuff in vim easily before pasting something?
[19:40] <tgm4883> EriC^^: d d ?
[19:41] <EriC^^> like if you copy a line with yy, then you go somewhere and you want to delete a part, if you use d or x to delete that part it ends up being in the clipboard instead of what you want to paste
[19:44] <EriC^^> is there a way to delete without putting something in the clipboard?
[19:46] <gagalicious> does mdadm sync boot record / mbr as well? how do i copy boot record?
[19:47] <halvors> Who can take a look at this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1391674
[19:47] <halvors> It's been there for years and years.
[19:47] <halvors> Time to get this fixed.
[19:47] <hans_> hi
[19:50] <roundduckman> Help, I want to delete chrome, but I can't since it says it can't find chrome being installed.
[19:51] <EriC^^> roundduckman: what command are you trying?
[19:52] <pylotis> Any commands to change folder permission?
[19:52] <MiniFridge> Okay, long story short, I broke my sshd_config and now I can't login, so I'm in rescue mode and want to replace the broken copy with a known good one. Will someone please walk me through this process?
[19:53] <roundduckman> EriC^^: sudo apt-get purge google-chrome-stable
[19:53] <tgm4883> roundduckman: what's the output of 'dpkg -l | grep chrome'
[19:54] <roundduckman> ii  xserver-xorg-video-openchrome               1:0.3.3-1ubuntu1                           amd64        X.Org X server -- VIA display driver
[19:54] <tgm4883> roundduckman: it's not installed
[19:54] <roundduckman> not google chrome, even though chrome is in the machine.
[19:54] <roundduckman> I can still launch it
[19:55] <roundduckman> let me try adding the google repos, and see if that fixes it after an update of repositories...
[19:56] <Hell-Razor> For some strange reason, apt is complaining about a repository being in my sources.list thats not actually there. Is there a cache somewhere I can flush to fix the issue?
[19:56] <tgm4883> roundduckman: that wouldn't make any sense. Adding the repos does nothing for the packages that are already installed. How are you launching it?
[19:56] <craptalk> do you know some channel to talk about tor browising?
[19:57] <EriC^^> Hell-Razor: maybe /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* might have something
[19:58] <Hell-Razor> EriC^^ ill take a peak, ty
[19:58] <EriC^^> np
[19:59] <Hell-Razor> Yes there it is. EriC^^, do you have a reason or an idea why apt will save sources in two locations? Seems like it could just cause issues
[19:59] <EriC^^> Hell-Razor: those are for the ppa's
[19:59] <pylotis> I could use some help...
[19:59] <pylotis> beginner stuff..
[20:00] <Hell-Razor> pylotis dont ask to ask, just ask
[20:00] <pylotis> I want to install steam games in a windows partition...
[20:01] <pylotis> And it says that the folder must have "executable permission"...
[20:01] <pylotis> No one one the ubuntu-steam that can help me..."New Steam library must be on a filesystem mounted with execute permissions"
[20:02] <Hell-Razor> pylotis try using chmod
[20:02] <Hell-Razor> oh filesystem
[20:02] <Hell-Razor> nopaste your fstab
[20:02] <pylotis> I have no idea what are you talking about.
[20:03] <fearnothing> pylotis: first time with ubuntu/linux?
[20:03] <pylotis> No, I have some background, but that's over me. xD
[20:03] <Hell-Razor> pylotis nopaste is something to paste online, google it (best way to see what it is, not trying to be an ass). fstab is located in /etc/fstab - copy and "paste" it in the nopaste
[20:03] <Hell-Razor> pylotis, and provide us the link
[20:03] <fearnothing> ^ what I was about to say
[20:03] <fearnothing> man Hell-Razor, you type fast
[20:04] <Hell-Razor> fearnothing It would be faster if I dont try and be proper. Trying to fix the issue of just blabbering on and having horrible punctuation.
[20:04] <roundduckman> tgm4883: dock in Gnome 3, I didn't uninstall it yet, but now it's gone. I do remember using this script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15312975/
[20:05] <roundduckman> gone from my database of packages I meant...
[20:05] <roundduckman> I probably executed the script while my google repository was removed...
[20:05] <roundduckman> I'm an idiot...
[20:07] <roundduckman> tgm4883: is there a way to reset my third party repositories?
[20:08] <Abe_> ls
[20:08] <tgm4883> roundduckman: i'm not entirely sure what you want. You were trying to remove google chrome, and now it's gone?
[20:12] <roundduckman> tgm4883: The entry in my database of packages for google chrome is gone, but the browser is still on my PC
[20:13] <roundduckman> tgm4883: How about this, how do you reset the third party repositories under the terminal?
[20:13] <need> hello?
[20:13] <tgm4883> roundduckman: what is the output of 'dpkg -l | grep chrom' and also the output of 'ps aux | grep chrom' Note the lack of 'e' on both of those commands
[20:13] <roundduckman> I can't seem to get the chrome repository working again with the workaround to make it work on 64-bit devices
[20:13] <Al3x_10m> could someone tell how could i read the CID of an sdcard if i got this error "buffer i/o error on dev mmcblk0"?
[20:14] <roundduckman> rounddu+ 28028  0.0  0.0  13692  2160 pts/0    S+   15:14   0:00 grep --color=auto chrom
[20:14] <roundduckman> That's for the latter command you gave
[20:15] <tgm4883> roundduckman: i know, and the first?
[20:15] <Hell-Razor> Here is kind of a random question, is there a kernel PPA? I am looking for sources so I can try to patch reiser4 (yes I know I know, I still love murder fs)
[20:15] <roundduckman> ii  chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra                48.0.2564.116-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>.1221        amd64        Extra ffmpeg codecs for the Chromium Browser
[20:15] <roundduckman> ii  libchromaprint0:amd64                       1.2-1build1                                amd64        audio fingerprint library
[20:15] <roundduckman> ii  xserver-xorg-video-openchrome               1:0.3.3-1ubuntu1                           amd64        X.Org X server -- VIA display driver
[20:16] <Hell-Razor> roundduckman use a nopaste. Helps stop spam in here.
[20:16] <tgm4883> roundduckman: what color is the chrome icon?
[20:16] <roundduckman> traditional chrome icon
[20:16] <roundduckman> not blue/gray
[20:16] <jushur> !pastebin | roundduckman
[20:17] <roundduckman> sorry, got a bit lazy...
[20:17] <Hell-Razor> Lazy and linux do not belong together.
[20:17] <testing223>  hi I cant to install grub2 to lvm2 /dev/sda, recieving message "unable to identify filesystem", why?
[20:17] <jushur> roundduckman: also chromium is not google-chrome,
[20:17]  * tgm4883 wonders if chrome does some weird stuff with your home dir
[20:17] <roundduckman> jushur: I know...
[20:17] <Basstard`> MonkeyDust, ioria, EriC^^: Just to let you know that I found it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1546459
[20:18] <tgm4883> jushur: he's using google-chrome is my understanding, not chromium
[20:19] <jushur> tgm4883: exactly, yet he pasted chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra wich is not related.
[20:19] <tgm4883> jushur: he posted exactly what I asked him to
[20:19] <roundduckman> tgm4883: how do you reset all the repositories for Ubuntu 15.10, the sources.list doesn't have the third party ones like the chrome and ppa repositories...
[20:20] <tgm4883> roundduckman: I'm still not sure what you mean by "reset", but third party repos are located in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[20:20] <ioria> Basstard`, said fixed ... not true ?
[20:20] <jushur> !ppa-purge | roundduckman
[20:20] <tgm4883> ffs
[20:20] <roundduckman> jushur: I know, but chrome's repository isn't a ppa
[20:20] <tgm4883> jushur: The google chrome repo isnt' a PPA
[20:20] <roundduckman> I was just mentioning ppas as an example
[20:21] <jushur> oh realy, last time i checked it is handled exactly the same?
[20:21] <roundduckman> idk
[20:21] <tgm4883> jushur: please tell me the command to ppa-purge the google chrome repository
[20:21] <roundduckman> You're basically talking to an aspie OCD idiot.
[20:21] <roundduckman> :P
[20:21] <Basstard`> ioria: Need to use an updated image, which they link to.
[20:22] <tgm4883> roundduckman: so what DO you mean by 'reset'
[20:22] <ioria> Basstard`, right 17-Feb-2016 07:59 	  you used an old image ?
[20:22] <roundduckman> tgm4883: remove and start over, I don't want to reinstall
[20:22] <Basstard`> ioria: Yep. I tried the updated one and it works.
[20:23] <tgm4883> roundduckman: it would be located in a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[20:23] <ioria> Basstard`, glad you made it
[20:23] <tgm4883> roundduckman: out of curiosity, why did you run http://paste.ubuntu.com/15312975/
[20:23] <Hell-Razor> how does ubuntu not have wgetpaste
[20:23] <Hell-Razor> Stupid, stupid.
[20:24] <Abe_> tgm4883: do you want to remove a third party repo? you can do it over synaptic too i think
[20:24] <jushur> roundduckman: did you use "sudo apt-get purge google-chrome-stable"
[20:25] <PynS550x> hi
[20:25] <adg> booted with acpi=off works, acpi=ht does not. Trying to install nvidia drivers and I get an error: No discrete VGA device found. Seems to me that it's an issue with acpi.
[20:25] <jushur> roundduckman: and then "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[20:25] <Hell-Razor> adg That is a long known error with nidia-drivers
[20:25] <PynS550x> I'am Brasiliam
[20:26] <PynS550x> HueHueBr
[20:26] <tgm4883> Abe_: no, I was just pointing out that while the chrome repo is handled in a similar way as PPAs, they are not the same, and as such, AFAIK you cannot remove non-ppa repos with ppa-purge
[20:26] <jushur> !ask | PynS550x
[20:26] <adg> Hell-Razor: how do I go about fixing it?
[20:26] <Hell-Razor> adg Not sure.
[20:27] <PynS550x> okay, sorry
[20:27] <tgm4883> Hell-Razor: so I just googled wgetpaste, and that is possibly the worst name for that application, as it makes zero sense. What you probably want is pastebinit, which is much more descriptive
[20:27] <tgm4883> !info pastebinit
[20:27] <Hell-Razor> tgm4883 fair enough
[20:28] <Hell-Razor> tgm4883 I come from several different distros. I got lazy and didnt want to install from source so I came to ubuntu
[20:28] <Hell-Razor> What I am used to is wgetpaste
[20:29] <Abe_> tgm4883: Sorry I didn't read the hole conversation :/ you guys probably already talked about removing chrome
[20:29] <roundduckman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15313575/
[20:29] <testing223> hi I cant to install grub2 to lvm2 /dev/sda, recieving message "unable to identify filesystem", why?
[20:29] <tgm4883> Hell-Razor: if you really want wgetpaste  http://askubuntu.com/questions/16446/how-to-get-my-software-into-ubuntu
[20:29] <Abe_> http://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/fix-failed-to-fetch-google-chrome_3.html
[20:29] <roundduckman> That's what happens with the repository, even after doing sudo sed -i -e 's/deb http/deb [arch=amd64] http/' "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list" "/opt/google/chrome/cron/google-chrome"
[20:30] <Hell-Razor> tgm4883 I found it. I was just looking for an alternative.
[20:30] <adg> Anybody know what to do when you have to disable acpi, but nvidia drivers need it to work?
[20:30] <bekks> adg: Why do you have to disable acpi?
[20:30] <adg> The laptop hangs on boot otherwise.
[20:31] <adg> Even acpi=ht
[20:31] <designbybeck_> 14.04 seemed to break the Wacom Intuos4 from working. Should 15.10 fix this?
[20:31] <j09> Hey guys, what packages do i need to install to get Kdenlive to display its icons?
[20:32] <designbybeck_> should I add 15.10 wacom-extras (or what ever that ppa is) before I try to use a Wacom Intous 4 on this setup?
[20:32] <designbybeck_> j09, I just installed the latest Kdenlive on a new 15.10 setup and I noticed it didn't have icons either
[20:33] <j09> It's an old issue. Over 2 years old. designbybeck_
[20:34] <designbybeck_> j09, I had been using 14.04 on my other machines so I'm not sure j09  it was worked fine there with the latest PPA from kdenlive. I just notcied it today on a new, first time to use 15.10 install
[20:34] <new_to_linux> Hi everyone!
[20:34] <j09> It's always happened to me. I just keep forgetting the package.
[20:35] <new_to_linux> I am what my name implies and have a question concerning conky on ubuntu gnome 15.10
[20:36] <tgm4883> j09: what icons?
[20:36] <j09> tgm4883 the application icons. The icons on the program's interface.
[20:36] <Gustavo6046> how do I recover a password?
[20:36] <roundduckman> I'm just gonna reinstall...
[20:37] <Gustavo6046> the tutorial in Google mentions a GRUB promopt
[20:37] <Gustavo6046> but I have no idea what it is
[20:37] <tgm4883> j09: I just installed it and it's got the icon on 15.10, so I'd guess one of these packages http://pastebin.com/vU5VwDnE
[20:38] <Abe_> Gustavo6046: GRUB is your systems Bootloader
[20:38] <j09> tgm4883 ???
[20:38] <ioria> Gustavo6046, can you link the tutorial ? because you can't recover a password, but you can change it
[20:38] <new_to_linux> How do I get conky to work if I have all the packages, got the conky manager, but the graphical output is constantly changing nonsense
[20:38] <Gustavo6046> it says "reset the password"
[20:38] <tgm4883> j09: what is the question? I thought I was pretty clear
[20:38] <Gustavo6046> so how do I change it?
[20:39] <feneco> is there a way to program mouse buttons on ubuntu/
[20:39] <ioria> Gustavo6046, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[20:40] <j09> tgm4883 I would like my interface in kdenlive to show icons: https://i.imgur.com/Fjp0bNt.png
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> feneco  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MouseCustomizations
[20:41] <Gustavo6046> wait a second
[20:41] <Gustavo6046> the password IS right
[20:41] <feneco> i will check
[20:41] <feneco> thanks MonkeyDust
[20:41] <Gustavo6046> but when I put it, a black screen follows, then the prompt again
[20:41] <Gustavo6046> the login prompt*
[20:41] <tgm4883> j09: ok, so that isn't what it's supposed to look like?
[20:42] <ioria> Gustavo6046, can you login in console ?
[20:42] <Abe_> is conky possible on KDE?
[20:42] <Gustavo6046> it says "Wrong password"
[20:42] <Gustavo6046> but otherwise the password works in the GUI
[20:42] <jushur> Gustavo6046: alt+f2
[20:42] <j09> tgm4883 it's supposed to have toolbar icons. Are you familiar with Kdenlive?
[20:42] <Abe_> should
[20:42] <ioria> Gustavo6046, so, it's not right
[20:42] <tgm4883> j09: I've not used it in a *very* long time
[20:42] <Gustavo6046> any other does "Incorrect password"
[20:42] <Gustavo6046> but the one in particular almost works
[20:42] <Gustavo6046> also the system gives a Critical Error after the login if I put the correct password
[20:43] <Gustavo6046> It doesn't restart for some reason
[20:43] <jushur> Gustavo6046: login on the console, as your user.
[20:43] <tgm4883> j09: ah, you need the oxygen icons
[20:43] <j09> tgm4883 Already installed I think.
[20:43] <Gustavo6046> alt+f2 does not work
[20:43] <Gustavo6046> also Ubuntu is on a VM
[20:43] <Gustavo6046> alt+f2 does nothing*
[20:43] <tgm4883> j09: "oxygen-icon-theme" ?
[20:43] <ioria> Gustavo6046,  console is  ctrl+alt+f1 (or f2)
[20:44] <j09> yes tgm4883
[20:44] <MMarsh> Hello
[20:44] <Gustavo6046> I tried
[20:44] <Gustavo6046> it says "Login incorrect"
[20:44] <Gustavo6046> not "Password incorrect"
[20:44] <fearnothing> is there a good guide anyone can recommend on how to set up limited users for running applications and scripts?
[20:44] <ioria> Gustavo6046,  are you sure about the username ?
[20:44] <tgm4883> j09: pro tip, when an application isn't acting like it should, try starting it from the command line and looking for errors
[20:45] <Gustavo6046> ioria: yes, "Gustavo Ramos Rehermann" is my username as displayed in the GUI (ctrl+alt+f7)
[20:45] <Gustavo6046> above the password bar
[20:46] <j09> tgm4883 https://i.imgur.com/qOnV0Dz.png
[20:46] <ioria> Gustavo6046,  well, i never choose a username with spaces ...
[20:46] <jushur> Gustavo6046: username is not real name.. its hte short name you chose at install.
[20:47] <tgm4883> j09: definitely different than mine. I just installed oxygen and now I've got http://imgur.com/S6n7Tnn
[20:47] <Gustavo6046> i know
[20:47] <Gustavo6046> but I wanted a real name for security
[20:47] <ioria> Gustavo6046,  try Gustavo\ Ramos\ Rehermann
[20:47] <j09> tgm4883 do you know where the kdenlive config files are kept?
[20:47] <tgm4883> can you even make a username with spaces?
[20:47] <jushur> Gustavo6046: you cannot install with a acc name with spaces. if you did it will have errored out.
[20:47] <tgm4883> j09: i don't, somewhere in your home directory I would think
[20:47] <Gustavo6046> it still says "Login Incorrect"
[20:48] <j09> tgm4883 I've been looking for ages but can't seem to find it.
[20:48] <Gustavo6046> I was just booting Ubuntu to find out my IP to fix the internet of my Windows 98 VM, but I guess I'll skip this part
[20:48] <Gustavo6046> not find out my IP* * * * *the VM IP ** * * * **
[20:48] <Gustavo6046> or whatever IP DHConfig gives
[20:50] <fearnothing> is there a good guide anyone can recommend on how to set up limited users for running applications and scripts?
[20:50] <ioria> Gustavo6046,  do you remember exactly what username did you choose ?
[20:50] <j09> tgm4883 I tried removing the config files, but the problem remains
[20:53] <j09> tgm4883 Any other thoughts. I really need to get this program running for work.
[20:55] <ioria> jushur, can you,please, confirm that it's not possible install with a username with spaces ?
[20:55] <j09> Why is Ubuntu so hard :-(
[20:55] <tgm4883> j09: not sure, I'd try googling that error you are getting. Or asking in #ubuntu
[20:55] <tgm4883> err
[20:55] <tgm4883> #kubuntu
[20:56] <j09> tgm4883 I have. No response.
[20:56] <alkisg> ioria: yup, ubiquity doesn't allow it, I think gustavo was talking about his real name, displayed in the panel
[20:56] <ioria> alkisg,  thanks
[20:56] <j09> The irritating thing, is that I know this isn't a difficult problem. I don't even know why everyone's finding it so difficult.
[20:57] <fpn> exit
[20:58] <Abe_> j09: you could also ask in a forum with screens ae.
[20:58] <j09> Abe_ I've done that before. But they don't usually reply.
[20:58] <p3pp3rdog> Jim 2w2
[21:00] <j09> I don't understand why I'm having such a hard time with this.
[21:01] <alkisg> j09: can you summarize the problem?
[21:01] <j09> alkisg I've installed Kdenlive, but the icons are not showing up on the interface https://i.imgur.com/Fjp0bNt.png
[21:04] <Hell-Razor> Is there a PPA to download the kernel sources (for patching and such)? I need to move my / to reiserfs and /home to reiser4
[21:05] <alkisg> j09: google says missing dependencies, try: sudo apt-get install kde-runtime
[21:06] <j09> alkisg Tried that, didn't work. I think it is missing dependencies but I don't know which ones.
[21:06] <fearnothing> can anyone point me towards a guide to making a script run as a daemon please?
[21:14] <poz> Anyone know why my audio would be flickering on and off rapidly? ubuntu 14.04
[21:15] <alkisg> j09: do you have "oxygen-icon-theme" installed?
[21:15] <j09> yes alkisg
[21:21] <EyeA> what is the current Distro called
[21:21] <baloubelix> Can someone tell me if the wifi chipset RTL8814AU is compatible
[21:21] <neonixcoder> good day guys, I am new to Linux. I see many users in /etc/passwd file but I dont see those many in /home directory. I know some of them are system accounts but why they are not present in /home directory.
[21:22] <ImACarrot> Using ubuntu server... does the computer going to sleep save on energy costs? Asking because I'm leaving it on 24/7... kinda like I'm supposed to. Thx a bunch.
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> ImACarrot  suspend saves to ram and costs energy ... hibernate saves to disk and does not cost energy
[21:24] <ImACarrot> if I use suspend or hibernate, could that affect my ability to access the server remotely? I use PuTTY to sign in from my laptop.
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> ImACarrot  there's Wake on Lan (Wol), but when it sleeps you can not access it
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> ImACarrot  your BIOS must be WoL capable
[21:25] <ImACarrot> Oh.
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> (mine isnt)
[21:27] <baloubelix> RTL8814AU ... is it good for Ubuntu?
[21:30] <jushur> j09: do apt-cache show kdenlive
[21:30] <jushur> j09: and check all dependencys manually.
[21:33] <Anthony-L_> what's the command for updates?
[21:33] <Anthony-L_> the software manager isn't updating
[21:34] <j09> jushur I doesn't look like anything's missing.
[21:34] <j09> Boy video editing on Linux is painful. Even today
[21:36] <MiniFridge2> How do I get out of a current prompt in Ubuntu? ctrl+q?
[21:36] <MiniFridge2> For the server, that is
[21:36] <MiniFridge2> Like to get out of it asking me for a password
[21:36] <jushur> j09: you need "kde-workspace-data" to.
[21:37] <j09> kde-workspace-data doesn't exist. I keep trying to say I've already googled for this.
[21:38] <jushur> j09: I see, sec.
[21:40] <j09> I seriously taken back by how bad video editing has gotton on Linux.
[21:41] <fearnothing> are the instructions on the following page applicable to ubuntu? http://www.unix.com/ubuntu/93832-how-can-i-automatically-start-daemon-boot-time.html
[21:41] <jushur> j09: id advice to download the oxygen icon theme. and put it in ~/.icons/
[21:41] <fearnothing> because if so, I've done something wrong, and if not, please could you tell me how I would achieve the equivalent on ubuntu?
[21:41] <fearnothing> also it may be significant that the process I'm trying to run is a python script not bash
[21:42] <j09> jushur Where can I get that from?
[21:43] <jushur> j09: oxygen-icon-theme you have that installed?
[21:43] <j09> jushur its installed from the repos
[21:44] <Anthony-L> what's the command to update to latest drivers?
[21:44] <jushur> j09: rebuilt the icon cache? as it should have told you to do?
[21:44] <j09> jushur What does that mean?
[21:44] <jim> Anthony-L, drivers are generally part of the kernel
[21:45] <Anthony-L> oh, i thought there was an auto-update command.
[21:45] <jim> Anthony-L, is something not working?
[21:45] <Anthony-L> i'm trying to install steam and it won't launch from the application.
[21:46] <jim> so when you say driers, which drivers do you mean? drivers for what?
[21:46] <jushur> j09: sudo gtk-update-icon-cache --force --ignore-theme-index /usr/share/icons/hicolor
[21:47] <j09> jushur No luck, I'm afraid.
[21:47] <jushur> j09: have you relogged after you installed the icon pack?
[21:47] <j09> no, i guess i'll that
[21:50] <xenial> 0
[21:50] <jushur> !xenial | xenial
[21:51] <fearnothing> anyone got any answers for the service thing?
[21:51] <j09> Restarting hasn't sorted it.
[21:52] <spooky__> i read that wrong
[21:56] <deepMan> hey
[21:57] <uupz> Hello, my Ovilus III kernel won't boot up with the current boot manager.  I installed wyrm WM on the platform but I dont think it installed properly.  Now whenever I boot into operating mode, it asks for my username/login, but the kernel's uid is different each time.    I do grep -Ff <(hwinfo --disk --short) <(hwinfo --usb --short
[22:02] <salut23111> )
[22:02] <k1l> salut23111: just look into "sudo parted -l" or dmesg after it is connected
[22:03] <squinty> or Disks
[22:04] <salut23111> cool! it was /dev/sdb
[22:04] <cyberian2> hi i've been having an issue with my wireless NIC in ubuntu 14.04
[22:05] <salut23111> now ill be able to do dd if=/path/to/downloaded.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M
[22:05] <salut23111> this will erase what is on the usb key right?
[22:05] <squinty> sync
[22:06] <j09> Hi, I've still not managed to get Kdenlive working.
[22:07] <elisa87> hey I am entering these commands in Ubuntu using awscli and I get this error. any fix? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35833160/aws-missing-authentication-token
[22:07] <Ben64> salut23111: that will put whatever that iso is onto sdb
[22:07] <Ben64> salut23111: it wont necessarily be able to boot that iso
[22:07] <fearnothing> hi could someone please direct me to some instructions for how to set up a script to run as a service
[22:08] <fearnothing> specifically I want the service to run as a specific user that I've set up as a service account, and I want it to run at boot
[22:08] <fearnothing> not login
[22:08] <fearnothing> search results for this kind of thing are absolutely useless
[22:10] <Ben64> fearnothing: what are you trying to run
[22:11] <cyberian2> i have an intel centrino advanced-n 6200. quite often, the computer will just hang for like 5 seconds and then the wireless connection will drop
[22:11] <salut23111> Ben64 the bootable disk creator on ubuntu doesnt work when i try to erase disk
[22:11] <cyberian2> it won't work until rebooting
[22:11] <cyberian2> after the connection drops, the adapter doesn't show up in the output of `lspci` anymore
[22:13] <fearnothing> Ben64 - a python script I've written
[22:14] <fearnothing> up until now I've been running via supervisord as root
[22:14] <fearnothing> but I decided it was time to do it properly with a limited user
[22:15] <SchrodingersScat> fearnothing: systemd? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[22:18] <fearnothing> SchrodingersScat - so the 'Example Systemd Service' section is the way it's supposed to work now?
[22:19] <designbybeck_> Normally I just download the latest .run file from NVIDIA, but I saw there is an NVIDIA ppa. Would this be advised for an Asus Zenbook ux303 with GT 940m?  Ubuntu 15.10?
[22:21] <SchrodingersScat> fearnothing: seems like one example yes
[22:24] <jesuslovesyouthi> I'm runnning 14.04 desktop and have the too small /boot volume issue. Well I neglected the warnings too long I guess and now I can't even purge old kernels --> installation of the newest kernel is triggered whenever an old kernel is purged and there is not enough space to do that, consequently, the entire operation fails and I'm back to square one.  Is there an easy soln to delete the old kernels and make space?
[22:24] <TacoThief> Does anyone know if its possible to set routing rules in ferm? ie, say this network is via this IP/interface etc
[22:31] <odroid> is anybody here?
[22:33] <odroid> come on, it's so boring here
[22:34] <odroid> say something nice
[22:34] <odroid> something interesting
[22:34] <odroid> something cool
[22:34] <odroid> anyone?
[22:34] <Myrtti> this is a support channel
[22:34] <odroid> oh
[22:35] <Bashing-om> odroid: For conversation IRT 'buntu, join #ubuntu-offtopic . Nicely said ;)
[22:35] <odroid> i just found an IRC app in my app list, so
[22:37] <fearnothing> ok my systemd service definition is past the first error... but I still can't start it
[22:37] <fearnothing> it's currently failing with the error 'timeout
[22:40] <p3pp3rdog> recommendations for video streaming add on?
[22:40] <noobstrap> Hi. What's a good phone verification service? US based
[22:45] <chrisml> i've just installed varnish and moved apache to port 8080, now php-fpm is erroring
[22:46] <chrisml> FastCGI: comm with server "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/php5.fcgi" aborted: read failed
[22:50] <johnnybravo_> hello
[22:58] <ubuntu-gnome> .
[22:58] <ubuntu-gnome> .
[22:59] <ubuntu-gnome> ###
[22:59] <ubuntu-gnome> #
[22:59] <ubuntu-gnome> run
[22:59] <ubuntu-gnome> name sahmaran
[23:00] <ubuntu-gnome> slm arkadaslar
[23:00] <xangua> ubuntu-gnome: do you have a support issue?
[23:00] <ubuntu-gnome> kmse varmı
[23:00] <ubuntu-gnome> no
[23:00] <ubuntu-gnome> xangu no
[23:02] <user_> Guys any free source to learn the directories, remove programs etc of Ubuntu in general?
[23:03] <squinty> !manual
[23:05] <user_> ubottu: thanks I´ll check it out now
[23:06] <helios> hi
[23:06] <reisio> hi hel
[23:06] <helios> hi.every one
[23:07] <helios> this is my first use of ubuntu 14.4
[23:07] <reisio> gj
[23:15] <DrSlony> Hello, which is the latest version of GCC available in Ubuntu 12.04?
[23:15] <reisio> DrSlony: does it matter?
[23:15] <kolbasz> hoping it is an easy fix, any thoughts on why chromium font would look terrible in gnome?  loaded same system into a vm and things look OK there.  running on nvidia hardware, seems to be my only issue. stuff just looks grainy and off focus.  my thought is theme/font pack
[23:16] <spooky__> shuttlesworth'll get mad if i use clang instead of gcc
[23:16] <reisio> spooky__: why would he even know
[23:16] <spooky__> he knows
[23:16] <DrSlony> reisio I don't understand why you would ask that? I came here asking about it, so of course it matters to me.
[23:17] <R13ose> How do I get rid of the launcher on the left side and not just hide this?
[23:17] <reisio> kolbasz: http://superuser.com/questions/726132/chrome-33-shows-ugly-blocky-pixelated-fonts-in-linux
[23:17] <xangua> DrSlony: if you cared about the latest, you wouldn't be using Ubuntu 12.04
[23:17] <reisio> R13ose: hide what?
[23:17] <DrSlony> amazing
[23:17] <DrSlony> ubuntu user mentality
[23:17] <DrSlony> did I say I'm using Ubuntu 12.04?
[23:18] <spooky__> i meant bbw
[23:18] <DrSlony> I would prefer an answer to the question instead of this... casual harassment.
[23:18] <reisio> DrSlony: did someone ask if you were?
[23:18] <R13ose> reisio: the launcher, where the app shortcuts are or live when you open them.
[23:18] <reisio> DrSlony: sure, but I'd also prefer an answer to my question
[23:18] <reisio> DrSlony: look at us, we're two peas in a pod
[23:18] <profall> what is the lighest ubuntu for an older laptop?
[23:18] <spooky__> latest version please
[23:18] <reisio> R13ose: yes, what about it?
[23:18] <user_> Guys I havent been available to play medium performance games with Ubuntu 15.1 Do you have any idea why this can be happening?
[23:18] <reisio> profall: Lubuntu, arguably
[23:18] <spooky__> razorqtbuntu
[23:19] <reisio> nothing using C++ is ever going to be lighter :p
[23:19] <profall> ok
[23:19] <kolbasz> reisio: I think that it.  seems simple enough to fix, cause firefox looks normal too.  Thanks!
[23:19] <dax> DrSlony: 4.6.3
[23:19] <spooky__> my batteries fail to charge the 'regular' way sad face
[23:19] <jushur> profall: lubuntu, or server console install only.
[23:19] <DrSlony> dax thank you
[23:20] <spooky__> i hate bios
[23:21] <R13ose> reisio: How do I remove this?
[23:22] <reisio> R13ose: the launcher on the left side?
[23:22] <profall> How is Lubuntu overall? Does it come with an office suite?
[23:22] <reisio> profall: it's just Ubuntu with LXDE preinstalled and preconfigured
[23:22] <reisio> the distro is the same
[23:22] <R13ose> reisio: Yes, I don't know the exact name.
[23:23] <reisio> profall: few of the popular office suites necessarily depend on GNOME
[23:23] <dreadkopp> i run a linux host for virtualization using qemu+kvm and vga passthrough. is there a way to start linux headlessly? right now i had to attach a small GPU as primary graphics  to stub the others which is just eating power for nothing :/
[23:23] <ouroumov> It comes with a lightweight word processor, I don't think libreoffice is installed by default though
[23:23] <reisio> R13ose: ...one?
[23:23] <elky> DrSlony: for future reference and convenience, packages.ubuntu.com should have all that information for you :)
[23:23] <reisio> dreadkopp: #kvm
[23:23] <dreadkopp> reiso : okay, thanks :)
[23:23] <DrSlony> elky thank you
[23:24] <reisio> dreadkopp: r-e-i-TAB
[23:25] <dreadkopp> reisio: yep ;)
[23:25] <R13ose> reisio: this one: http://www.howopensource.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/set-launcher-in-unity-ubuntu-12_10.png
[23:26] <reisio> R13ose: you want the µTorrent icon to be gone?
[23:26] <R13ose> reisio: the whole panel not just µTorrent
[23:26] <ouroumov> R13ose, you can install gnome-session-fallback
[23:26] <samm_> hi
[23:26] <ouroumov> It'll get rid of the launcher, get you a taskbar instead
[23:26] <dreadkopp> R13ose: use xfce4 or gnome then :)
[23:27] <samm_> need some helping installing windows 7 from memdisk
[23:27] <reisio> R13ose: okay, you want the entire panel gone?
[23:27] <reisio> samm_: memdisk?
[23:27] <samm_> yeah
[23:27] <R13ose> reisio: yes as I installed another one that is nicer.
[23:27] <samm_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/367011/boot-windows-7-iso-from-grub2
[23:27] <samm_> installing it from ram
[23:28] <samm_> "If you happen to have at least 4GB RAM, you can opt to load the whole DVD iso in memdisk and boot off that. "
[23:28] <reisio> R13ose: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38009/how-do-i-remove-the-unity-launcher has a couple solutions
[23:28] <reisio> samm_: so what do you need help with
[23:28] <samm_> is it possible
[23:29] <elky> samm_: that page implies so.
[23:29] <spooky__> 7 days left
[23:29] <spooky__> 3 days 6 days 3 days 2 days
[23:29] <elky> spooky__: until what?
[23:29] <spooky__> 7 days remain 6 days
[23:30] <spooky__> i dont think this is going to work out...
[23:30] <R13ose> thanks everyone
[23:30] <reisio> ...
[23:30] <elky> spooky__: you're confusing us
[23:30] <spooky__> yeah... im the one who's confusing...
[23:31] <elky> spooky__: what is all this 7 days 6 days 3 days about?
[23:31] <spooky__> 3 dats left
[23:31] <spooky__> back to 6 days
[23:31] <elky> spooky__: could you answer my question please?
[23:31] <Myrtti> spooky__: is this about your battery charge, or what?
[23:31] <spooky__> quantified self improvement
[23:31] <spooky__> yeah my battery wont charge because of a bios issue
[23:32] <dax> Okay. How is this related to Ubuntu technical support?
[23:32] <spooky__> i updated bios and that fixed it, but then i factory defaulted my bios and the problem returned
[23:32] <spooky__> its not
[23:32] <reisio> seems like it's clear how you fix it again, then
[23:32] <dax> then don't talk about it in the Ubuntu technical support channel, thanks
[23:32] <spooky__> yeah, install windows!
[23:32] <spooky__> update bios
[23:33] <spooky__> install something else
[23:33] <reisio> oh you want to know how to update the bios without installing Windows?
[23:33] <spooky__> factory default bios
[23:33] <spooky__> start over again
[23:33] <spooky__> that would be helpful yes
[23:33] <elky> spooky__: it's still not something we can help you with. please stop flooding this channel with your rant
[23:33] <dax> Personally my BIOS lets me update using a FAT-formatted USB stick regardless of my host OS. Might be something to look for next time you're in the market for a motherboard.
[23:33] <dax> well, s/BIOS/firmware/, but whatever
[23:33] <reisio> spooky__: if I tell you how, do you promise not to reset it again for reasons unknown? :p
[23:34] <spooky__> msg me
[23:34] <samm_> how old is your motherboard?
[23:34] <reisio> spooky__: etc.: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Flashing_BIOS_from_Linux https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/BIOS_Update
[23:34] <reisio> elky: yeah, couldn't help someone with something on the ubuntu wiki
[23:34]  * reisio rolls eyes
[23:35] <dax> There's a pretty big gap between "how do I update my firmware on Ubuntu" and "here's a live feed of my battery status"
[23:36] <dax> and for what it's worth, looking at that page I'm not seeing a whole lot of Ubuntu technical support on it, so sure, it's offtopic for #ubuntu
[23:36] <EmeraldZebra44> fuck u
[23:36] <reisio> not big enough for me to not be able to figure it out, apparently :p
[23:36] <elky> EmeraldZebra44: no thanks. do you have a support question
[23:37] <elky> reisio: you couldn't figure out a gcc version before so don't start.
[23:37]  * dax sighs
[23:37] <reisio> elky: wha? :p
[23:37] <EmeraldZebra44> fuck u
[23:37] <dax> about time to move swiftly onwards, methinks
[23:38] <michael_> #debian
[23:39] <xangua>  Debian is the bow of the Ubuntu arrow :-)
[23:41] <samm_>  search -f "--set-root /Winblows.iso" does this line search for the iso on my pc?
[23:42] <elky> you might want to avoid something named winblows.iso...
[23:42] <squinty> sudo updatedb && locate <filename>
[23:42] <reisio> samm_: it searches, yes
[23:43] <reisio> samm_: you can also just say explicitly where it is
[23:44] <ubuntu-mate> hi ubuntu boys
[23:45] <reisio> hi mate guy
[23:52] <exedore6> Does #ubuntu block certain irc clients? When I connect from my phone, I’m banned, but not from my computer.
[23:53] <sam__-phone> hm
[23:53] <sam__-phone> that didnt work
[23:53] <R13ose> How do I make the messages that popup in unity clickable so they go to where they are coming from?
[23:54] <xangua> R13ose: install xfce notifications and remove unity ones....hmmm don't recall how are they called
[23:55] <Myrtti> exedore6: more likely that it is your service provider that's blocked in one way or another. do you get an error message and can you join other channels?
[23:55] <reisio> xfce4-notifyd, notification-daemon
[23:55] <jpt9> Quick question -- I'm running Xubuntu 15.10.  Will it be possible to upgrade to Xubuntu 16.04 when it comes out?
[23:55] <Myrtti> yes
[23:55] <exedore6> Myrtti: Yes, I can join other channels, including other ubuntu channels.
[23:55] <spooky__> yes
[23:55] <spooky__> the answer to your next question ... is NO
[23:55] <dax> exedore6: we'd need the IP address of your phone to answer that
[23:56] <spooky__> its a trap
[23:56] <exedore6> Yeah, wasn’t born yesterday
[23:56] <jpt9> Myrtti: (Was that yes for me, or someone else?)
[23:56] <dax> exedore6: well, that's what 90% of our channel bans are done by, so *shrug*
[23:57] <exedore6> dax if I’m banned by IP, I’d be banned now too.
[23:57] <exedore6> The x-factor is the client.
[23:57] <dax> exedore6: ah, I assumed you meant cellular data, not wifi
[23:58] <spooky__> lol
[23:58] <exedore6> Though it seems to work right now.
[23:58] <exedore6> Because I’m n32129
[23:58] <SchrodingersScat> !banevasion
[23:58] <exedore6> and apparently dyslecic
[23:58] <yottabyte> hey y'all I installed ubuntu with the live usb, dual boot with windows 8, but when I booted into windows 8 the grub menu disappeared and it goes into windows automatically now
[23:58] <yottabyte> I'm downloading boot-repair-disk right now, but will this happen every time I choose to boot into windows?
[23:59] <yottabyte> booting into ubuntu worked and still made grub appear the next boot
[23:59] <exedore6> SchrodingersScat: Pretty sure I’m not actually banned.