[13:15] <healhter> I searched google for more than a day now but all I got up to now is a bunch of ways to change the mapping of the keycode to the sign
[13:15] <TJ-> swaagie: Which ubuntu release is it?
[13:15] <healhter> but the two keys report the same keycode already
[13:16] <swaagie> TJ-: 13.04
[13:16] <swaagie> afraid that the dpkg state is seriousy f-ed up
[13:16] <healhter> is there a way to downgrade it?
[13:17] <bwayne> luv_buntu: to script a script, first you must know a shell scripting language. it is then written as a plain text file and marked executable.
[13:17] <healhter> i would be perfectly happy with an year old ubuntu as long as i can use my keyboard^^
[13:17] <TJ-> swaagie: OK, that makes sense then. It doesn't exist in 13.04. Was that system release-upgraded from 12.10 ?
[13:17] <Sammil> ActionPa1snip: I will have a look later on at the hybrid page you sended me. Atm I can 'correct' the issue by rebooting after a cold start up. Thanks for the help
[13:18] <swaagie> TJ-: no fresh install, but had a major fuckup going from gnome3.8 to 3.10 that really didn't work out well, did a lot of reverting but somehow the state is not quite ok
[13:18] <swaagie> even though all default actions to fix the state show up with no listed problem
[13:18] <swaagie> s*
[13:19] <healhter> does anyone has an idea how I could get my keyboard working properly?
[13:21] <mgedmin> healhter, same keycode?  interesting
[13:21] <mgedmin> healhter, what keycode is that?
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> !details | healhter
[13:22] <Sammil> ActionPa1snip: seems false alarm,after logging no icons are visible only the background.
[13:22] <swaagie> TJ-: like this one, gir1.2-epiphany-3.6 : Depends: epiphany-browser (= 3.6.1-2ubuntu1), could only get this fixed after manually purging and reinstalling the epiphany browser, that unmet dep doens't show up until I do a direct purge/remove of gir1.2-epiphany-3.6
[13:22] <mgedmin> healhter, next, can you run 'xkbcomp :0 - | grep 51' (assuming the keycode is 51)
[13:22] <TJ-> swaagie: 13.04 has gnome-core 3.4 ... did you install 3.8/3.10 from an unofficial repository, or via self-built packages?
[13:23] <healhter> its keycode 51
[13:23] <Dar1us> Hi, I have 12.04 and installed a 3.2 kernel because parallels extensions don;t build on newere ones. How do I get grub to default to the older kernel?
[13:23] <mgedmin> healhter, this will show you how the X server is mapping hardware keys to keycodes
[13:23] <mgedmin> cool, I guessed right :)
[13:24] <healhter>  <BKSL> = 51;
[13:24] <healhter>     <I151> = 151;
[13:24] <healhter>     <I251> = 251;
[13:24] <healhter>     key <I151> {         [      XF86WakeUp ] };
[13:24] <healhter>         width=     351;
[13:24] <FloodBot1> healhter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:24] <cracchina84> ciau
[13:24] <swaagie> TJ-: 3.4? I used ppa:ricotz/testing to get 3.10, installed 3.8 from the default repo's
[13:25] <healhter> did it work?
[13:25] <healhter> did you got my reply?
[13:25] <mgedmin> healhter, maybe? dunno?  you got temporarily muted for flooding, please use a pastebin (e.g. paste.ubuntu.com) next time
[13:26] <mgedmin> actually, just paste the output again, into the pastebin, so we can be sure we got the entire
[13:26] <swaagie> that ricotz ppa in combination with ppa:gnome3-team/staging btw
[13:26] <mgedmin> wait, make it |grep -w 51
[13:26] <healhter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6204910/
[13:26] <healhter> like this?
[13:26] <mgedmin> so irrelevant lines like '151' won't clutter it
[13:26] <mgedmin> ah, ok, the output was complete
[13:26] <mgedmin> and only one hardware key is mapped to keycode 51
[13:26] <healhter> how do i use paste.ubuntu.com?
[13:26] <mgedmin> and yet you say xev shows two keys emitting the same?
[13:26] <healhter> yeah
[13:27] <mgedmin> healhter, you did fine with the pastebin
[13:27]  * mgedmin scratches head
[13:27] <healhter> yeah thats how i feel
[13:27] <swaagie> TJ-: dunno if normal, but if I try to install gnome-core it will actually present 28 new packages to install
[13:27] <Dar1us> n/m finally worked it out
[13:27] <healhter> at least im not alone^^ i guess
[13:27] <TJ-> swaagie: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/gnome   ... shows v3.4. Some gnome apps have the v3.8 marker though.
[13:28] <healhter> mgedmin is there anyway to get a log of the events _before_ there are keycodes?
[13:28] <mgedmin> healhter, can any other OSes distinguish the two keys?  e.g. windows, or an older Ubuntu version?
[13:28] <bwayne> healhter: you will probably want to file a bug report. If that turns out to be the case, use these instructions --> 1) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKeyboardDetection 2) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting ; #2 may turn out to be useful for getting a working setup.
[13:28] <healhter> i have tried is with Mint15 and Lubuntu 12.04
[13:29] <mgedmin> healhter, yes; you can switch to a text console (ctrl+al+f1), log in, then use showkey -s to see the raw scan codes (wait 10 seconds without hitting any keys to make showkey quit)
[13:29] <healhter> both have the same problems
[13:29] <mgedmin> if the _scan_ kodes are different, then it's kernel's fault for mapping them both to the same key code
[13:29] <mgedmin> and you can probably override the mapping table using setkeycodes
[13:29] <mgedmin> if the scan codes are the same, then it's hardwares fault
[13:30] <mgedmin> (maybe you can find an option in the BIOS setup to convince the hardware to act differently?)
[13:30] <mgedmin> oh, showkey needs root
[13:30] <jony_easyrider> cat: /root/.cifscredentials: Permission denied - PLEASE HELP :(
[13:30] <mgedmin> so sudo showkey -s
[13:31] <Pici> jony_easyrider: what are you trying to do?
[13:31] <swaagie> TJ-: apt-cache showpkg does list core as 1:3.4+7ubuntu4 (/var/lib/apt/lists/nl.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_universe_binary-amd64_Packages)
[13:31] <healhter> okay thats interesting:
[13:31] <Guest15606> Hello?
[13:31] <bwayne> jony_easyrider: if I understand your issue, you apparently need to escalate your priviledges using sudo.
[13:31] <swaagie> i'll try to install those packages, that shouldn't hurt
[13:31] <jony_easyrider> recently I moved from 32 bit Ubuntu 12.04 to 64 bit 12.04. since then I got the following error when I try to mount a share specified in fstab: mount error(13): Permission denied
[13:31] <jony_easyrider> it started like this
[13:32] <healhter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6204926/
[13:32] <jony_easyrider> then I realized that: cat: /root/.cifscredentials: Permission denied
[13:32] <swaagie> the install also removes some weird python applet
[13:32] <healhter> mgedmin: no it didnt
[13:32] <healhter> however i get two codes for those keys
[13:32] <CatKiller> jony_easyrider: And "sudo cat /root/.cifscredentials"?
[13:32] <healhter> not one like everything else
[13:32] <swaagie> alas still broken
[13:32] <BluesKaj> WB , cfhowlett
[13:33] <mgedmin> healhter, I think that 0x9c might be the release of Enter
[13:33] <mgedmin> healhter, usually when you release a key you get the scan code with 0x80 bit set
[13:33] <mgedmin> and I think 0x1c might be Enter
[13:33] <mgedmin> that would mean the two keys are actually the same: 0x2b 0xab
[13:33] <elliott__> Hello, i was wondering if anybody could help me connect my xbox to xbox live using my pc?
[13:34] <mgedmin> yeah, 0xab == 0x2b | 0x80, so it's just press and release of key 0x2b
[13:34] <mgedmin> blame the hardware
[13:34] <mgedmin> (or firmware)
[13:34] <healhter> okay so my keys produce the same signal?
[13:34] <healhter> solution is either in BIOS or where?
[13:35] <isaac__> hello
[13:35] <mgedmin> healhter, right; the hardware doesn't distinguish the key
[13:36] <healhter> well its a start^^ although i dont look forward to try to get another bios on it via linux^^
[13:36] <healhter> thanks anyways
[13:36] <mgedmin> maybe the firmware can reprogram the hardware to make it distinguish the keys, or maybe it's totally hardcoded with no recourse
[13:36] <mgedmin> can you try Windows?  can it distinguish these keys?  if not, I'd say all hope is lost
[13:36] <mgedmin> if yes, then it's going to be an interesting exercise in debugging/reverse engineering
[13:37] <mgedmin> way above my competence level
[13:37] <healhter> well mine too, but i will try to use windows first
[13:45] <swaagie> so meh I just resorted to reinstalling every package
[13:45] <swaagie> hopefully that will fix some of the hidden broken deps
[13:47] <swaagie> TJ-: thx for your help will let you know if ^ resolves it
[13:47] <TJ-> mgedmin: If "healhter" returns, point to the device's manual. In that, in the BIOS section, it shows it is possible to select the keyboard language. That infers to me that key-codes could change depending on selection.
[13:47] <TJ-> swaagie: Good luck :)
[13:48] <Ponch0> Hey guys is there a way to safely remove older version of eclipse and install a newer version?
[13:49] <cfhowlett> Ponch0, sudo apt-get purge eclipse and sudo apt-get install eclipse.  OR you can compile the latest ...
[13:49] <gryg> Hello, is there any alternative for thunderbird that supports TNEF attachements?
[13:49] <Ponch0> that's what i'd like to do but i've been reading nightmare stories
[13:50] <Beast> Hi. Has anyone had issues system freezes while playing .flv in fullscreen? Had that last night on saucy and prior to upgrading. Might this be due to bad flash support for Firefox?
[13:50] <Pici> Beast: Please use #ubuntu+1 for Saucy support, thanks :)
[13:51] <Ponch0> cfhowlett: so 'sudo apt-get purge eclipse' should be enough to compile the latest?
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Ponch0, no that will only remove the current version.
[13:52] <cfhowlett> Ponch0, I'd suggest you consider just staying with the verion in the repos unless you REALLY have a crying need for the latest/greatest shiny thing ...
[13:52] <Ponch0> well I personally don't care but it's buggy as hell hehe
[13:52] <Beast> well I didn't just experience this on saucy
[13:52] <cfhowlett> Ponch0, have you updated your system lately?
[13:53] <Ponch0> yeah I pretty much update everyday.
[13:54] <cfhowlett> Ponch0, dist-upgrade?
[13:54] <Ponch0> yes-sir :)
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !info eclipse
[13:55] <cfhowlett> Ponch0, other than what I've already stated, I don't know what to advise you ...
[13:56] <Ponch0> It's ok thanks so much, i'll keep reading through some posts.
[13:57] <arlly> thenks
[14:00] <palsec> since a few days the youtube sound on my 13.04 amd desktop and and 12.04 amd laptop do not work anymore. any hints, please?
[14:00] <oo_miguel> Can I somehow make a wpa2-psk connection for the ubuntu installation
[14:01] <oo_miguel> the wlan card seems to be identified, BUT i can only choose wpa-psk...
[14:02] <ActionPa1snip> oo_miguel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[14:02] <ActionPa1snip> palsec: try:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse*    wait 10 seconds and reboot
[14:03] <ActionPa1snip> oo_miguel: your chip may not support that encryption under Linux
[14:03] <TJ-> oo_miguel: Availability of WPA versions can depend upon the chip-set in the WiFi device.
[14:04] <ice9> is the stock kernel that is shipped with ubuntu compiled for multi core support? how many??
[14:04] <ActionPa1snip> ice9: server or desktop kernel?
[14:04] <module000> ice9: 1) yes 2) more than is currently manufacturered on any known cpu
[14:04] <ice9> ActionPa1snip, both
[14:05] <ActionPa1snip> ice9: http://askubuntu.com/questions/158555/how-many-maximum-cpus-does-ubuntu-support-by-default
[14:05] <ActionPa1snip> ice9: 8 cores desktop and 256 cores server
[14:05] <oo_miguel> ActionPa1snip: TJ- : thank you
[14:05] <ice9> ActionPa1snip, isn't it bad idea to support more cores than target system?
[14:05] <module000> ice9: if you want to get really funky, you can tweak i tto 4096 last i checked as well - but 512 is the "sane" limit mentioned in the kernel sources
[14:06] <freeroute> hi everyone, I think Midori is taking up 100% of resources on my machine. I managed to (finally) get to tty1, but the login seems to be timing out (Login timed out after 60 seconds). Is there any way I can still login or kill Midori?
[14:06] <ActionPa1snip> ice9: why? The kernel is the same in multiple systems, so support is needed. Windows supports lots of cores too
[14:06] <ActionPa1snip> ice9: how could it possible be a bad thing?
[14:07] <ice9> ActionPa1snip, if you read the linux kernel compile guide it say that if you have dual core cpu then the multi core support number you should pass to the compiler is not more than 3 or it will act veryyy slow
[14:07] <ActionPa1snip> ice9: are you seeing slowness?
[14:08] <ActionPa1snip> ice9: i have had Ubuntu on anything from 1 to 32 cores and seen now slowness
[14:08] <ice9> ActionPa1snip, i haven't compared it with other builds so i can't tell
[14:08] <module000> ice9: that guide is from the perspective of *compiling* performance AFAIK, not the performance of the compiled binary you will produce
[14:08] <ice9> i see
[14:09] <Guest____> wrong place to ask but its active, anyone here good with web crawlers/spider and could possibly point me in the direction of a good tutorial
[14:09] <Guest____> sorry bout nickname
[14:10] <MasterOfDisaster> Guest____: definitly wrong place to ask. Query me...
[14:26] <eduhat> I am trying to figure out the end of life for a couple ubuntu distributions. I found the page for the EOL support. For 11.10 it shows ~March of this year. Would this mean it is past EOL?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> eduhat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[14:27] <cfhowlett> eduhat, very much so.
[14:27] <eduhat> ok
[14:27] <eduhat> thanks guys
[14:27] <cfhowlett> eduhat, 12.04 is Long Term Support
[14:27] <cfhowlett> !lts
[14:28] <eduhat> I know about LTS. I just have to create a report about various ubuntu distro's we provide and wasn't sure how to read the graph. I like the link ActionParsnip provided a lot better.
[14:30] <crunchiechoc> Is it me or is Ubuntu a bit bloated?
[14:31] <TJ-> crunchiechoc: It's you... too much starch in your diet :)
[14:31] <cfhowlett> crunchiechoc, it's you.  ease off the cheezy puffs and do more aerobics
[14:32] <crunchiechoc> I don't eat cheesy puffs, but thanks for the tip.
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: Lubuntu is light and airy
[14:34] <crunchiechoc> Yeah, I ran it in my VM. Seems nice.
[14:35] <crunchiechoc> Honestly I love the Ubuntu interface. By far the best. I think I settled on CrunchBang though.
[14:35] <bell> this is the first i using my irc client
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6205156/   3.3Gb for system, not bloated at all :)
[14:35] <crunchiechoc> Nice.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: crunchbang support community is a lot smaller than Ubuntu's
[14:36] <crunchiechoc> No doubt, Ubuntu has the most support.
[14:36] <crunchiechoc> Choosing a Linux distro is so difficult ;(
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: as well as Redhat
[14:37] <repudiate> Hey, is there anyway to make my windows snap to the edges the way they do in Windows when you drag them off the screen?
[14:37] <GreatBacon> crunchie, what are you looking to do with the new Linux distro?
[14:38] <repudiate> Is there any equivalent of the "Aero Snap" feature in Ubuntu?
[14:38] <repudiate> If so, how do I enable it?
[14:38] <Terracotta_> Hello! I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 and I'm having a little bit of trouble setting up a HP Laserjet P1102w as a wireless printer
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: its the grid plugin in ccsm
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: yes its in compiz
[14:39] <repudiate> I have no idea what that means?
[14:39] <crunchiechoc> GreatBacon: I want a distro that I can install on my desktop that will allow me to edit files, play music and video, use SSH and FTP, browse the internet, and protect my privacy.
[14:39] <repudiate> Can you help me?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: nobody is born knowing
[14:40] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: Is it complicated to set up?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: run:  ccsm   in a terminal
[14:40] <GreatBacon> Crunchie,  Ubuntu is great for that purpose
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: its a tick box.....so depends if ticking a box is complicated.
[14:40] <xlys> Hi! Is there a way to disable autorecreation of the "Music", "Desktop", "Videos" etc. folders in the home folder? I don't know what recreates it, if it's nautilus or gdm or some such. Thanks!
[14:40] <repudiate> The program 'ccsm' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[14:40] <repudiate> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: any linux distro can do that, thats a default set of features
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: so, guess what the next step is..?
[14:41] <repudiate> Ha, I'm doing it.
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: instead of blindly copying outputs to paste here, try reading what is output and think
[14:41] <repudiate> That was just my way of telling you that I got it.
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: i dont need it, you do
[14:41] <crunchiechoc> ActionParsnip: I know :( that's what makes my hunt so difficult. They all seem great.
[14:42] <repudiate> Ok, so it seems done ActionParsnip
[14:42] <repudiate> Now what?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: rerun the command you ran first time....again, think
[14:42] <crunchiechoc> I mean, centos won't be my primary choice (although I prefer centos for servers)
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: im using a lot of puppy these days, and xpud
[14:42] <crunchiechoc> Do you think Arch can score me cool points?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: go to gentoo for cool points :)
[14:43] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: Now I have the settings manager
[14:44] <mn3na3a> how to change the default file manager?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: ok, enable the plugin i named earlier
[14:45] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: It's enabled, but it doesn't work. Does it require a restart?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: the plugins enable on the fly
[14:46] <eduhat> For 12.04 it doesnt show an End of life date.
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> eduhat: April 2017
[14:47] <cfhowlett> !perfect
[14:47] <eduhat> Thanks
[14:47] <repudiate> Let me try closing this first
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> eduhat: 5 yars support starting April (4)th month, in 20(12)
[14:47] <repudiate> Yeah, the plugin was enabled by default
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: you could increase the threshold on the side of the screen.
[14:48] <Milos_SD> hello ... Xubuntu or Lubuntu on old  PC with some Pentium 4 like AMD CPU, 1GB RAM and ATI 9250
[14:48] <Milos_SD> ?
[14:48] <crunchiechoc> What is one thing only Ubuntu has that most other distorts don't?
[14:48] <crunchiechoc> Lubuntu
[14:48] <crunchiechoc> It's lighter.
[14:49] <crunchiechoc> Distros*
[14:49] <cfhowlett> Milos_SD, either .  install one and then install the other desktop to test.  for instance sudo apt-get install lxde will show you the lxde
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: big support is one thing
[14:50] <Milos_SD> cfhowlett, I know that :D One other question ... is the installer the same on xubuntu, lubuntu and ubuntu CDs?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: lots of distros use LXDE....
[14:50] <cfhowlett> Milos_SD, functionally, yues
[14:50] <cfhowlett> yes
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Milos_SD: I'd go Xubuntu 12.04
[14:50] <repudiate> Ugh
[14:50] <cfhowlett> Milos_SD, ^^^ that
[14:51] <cfhowlett> Milos_SD, xubuntu is arguably the more mature flavor and is also the base of UbuntuStudio.
[14:52] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: Does the fact that I'm using a VBox have anything to do with this not working?
[14:52] <crunchiechoc> ActionParsnip: That's true. I was considering installing ArchBang, but their forums are dead, and before the last build, there was like a 2 year gap.
[14:53] <repudiate> Let me restart, be right back
[14:53] <scristian> I install again munin-node and is not adding configuration file, I remove /etc/munin before
[14:53] <cfhowlett> repudiate, entirely possible
[14:54] <TJ-> xlys: To disable (or modify) creation and naming of folders when a user account is created, you need to edit /etc/xdg/users-dir.conf. See "/usr/share/doc/xdg-user-dirs/README"
[14:54] <repudiate> It's still not working.
[14:54] <zohan> good night
[14:54] <zohan> :D
[14:55] <zohan> can u help me ????
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: if you dont have compoziting enabled then yes as Compiz wont be active to do the job
[14:55] <repudiate> enabled on my VM, you mean?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: you will need 3D accelleration enabled which will slow down the gust system
[14:55] <TJ-> xlys: correction, "/etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf" and "/etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults"
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: yes, its a setting
[14:56] <cfhowlett> !details|zohan,
[14:56] <zohan> i want to install nvidia geforce 610 m , but i can't :(
[14:56] <zohan> how to install nvidia driver
[14:56] <CrysAk> Question : How do i uninstall something i just installed (such as laravel) I'm brand new to linux / CLI
[14:56] <zohan> ?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !nvidia|zohan,
[14:58] <crunchiechoc> apt-get -h
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> zohan: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[14:59] <cfhowlett> CrysAk, if you installed via command sudo apt-get install packagename the kill command would be sudo apt-get purge packagename
[14:59] <zohan> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> zohan: and if you run:   sudo lshwe -C display   do you see an Intel GPU as well as an Nvidia GPU, or is it just an Nvidia?
[15:01] <Caelum> finally got gedit+synctex to work
[15:01] <CrysAk> i used this command to install "php /root/composer.phar composer create-project laravel/laravel --prefer-dist"
[15:01] <CrysAk> cfhowlett, ^
[15:01] <swaagie> TJ-: errr compete reinstall of every pkg did not solve anything -.-
[15:01] <CrysAk> but i wish to uninstall composer also
[15:02] <cfhowlett> CrysAk, *punt*   don't know WHAT that is, but I see root and I run.
[15:02] <cfhowlett> ask someone smarter than I am
[15:02] <CrysAk> blah
[15:02] <zohan> oh my god, just intel
[15:02] <CrysAk> thanks anyway :(
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> zohan: you wont get any feedback when you type your pass but it is being accepted
[15:02] <CrysAk> would jsut deleting the directories work?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> zohan: then you are good to go, the intel drivers are in a default instll
[15:03] <CrysAk> ahh i'l just restort from my backup last night :/ lol
[15:03] <somsip> CrysAk: those apps just install in directories, so normally you can just delete them. But if you really put composer.phar in /root, just delete composer.phar
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> zohan: does the system use a switching GPU? and did you suspend/hibernate the Windows OS (assuming you dual boot).
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> zohan: does the system have a make and model?
[15:03] <repudiate> how do i disable ccsm ActionParsnip
[15:04] <CrysAk> somsip, thanks i'l try that before restoring backup
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: ccsm is only a config tool, there is nothing to 'disable'
[15:04] <repudiate> uninstall ActionParsnip
[15:04] <zohan> just a moment please, i have to translate your language >_<
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: sudo apt-get --purge remove compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: or you could have used software centre
[15:06] <zohan> this is still default configuration in ubuntu
[15:06] <zohan> and nvidia is not use
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> zohan: does the system have windows on it as well
[15:06] <zohan> i want to play dota 2 on ubuntu 12.04
[15:06] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: how on softw center
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: search dash
[15:07] <zohan> yes of course
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> zohan: there is no of course about it
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> zohan: many users use Ubuntu as the sole OS, not a dual boot
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> zohan: so no, not of course
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> zohan: or I wouldnt have asked
[15:07] <zohan> im sole OS
[15:08] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: search for what?
[15:08] <zohan> sorry
[15:08] <zohan> my ubuntu is sole OS
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> zohan: if you have windows installed too, it is not the only OS. You have a dual boot
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: guess
[15:08] <zohan> i have mint 13 and also backtrack
[15:08] <repudiate> ccsm?
[15:08] <zohan> but not windows
[15:08] <repudiate> or software center?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: no, you wanted to use softare centre to uninstall an application right..?
[15:09] <repudiate> yeah
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: so guess which you search for
[15:09] <zohan> help me please....
[15:09] <zohan> i want to play dota on my ubuntu
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> zohan: bit of a waste, those distros are all ubuntu based, so you have duplicated data across them all
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> zohan: does the system have a make and model?
[15:10] <zohan> yes
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> zohan: what is it?
[15:11] <repudiate> What do I search for?
[15:11] <Pici> ActionParsnip: its a game on Steam
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Pici: aye but I want the make and model of the hardware
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: have a guess
[15:11] <repudiate> software?
[15:11] <repudiate> software center?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: yes
[15:12] <repudiate> I already have that locked on my launcher
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: thats fine, once its running search for the application you want to remove and uninstall it
[15:12] <repudiate> But when I search, "ccsm" it shows me a result and says $10
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: its free
[15:13] <repudiate> I'm under "All Software."
[15:13] <zohan> i'm sorry what do you mean about the system have a make and model? i'm so newbie on linux. please explain me
[15:13] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: Does Chrome show up in the Software Center?
[15:14] <repudiate> How can I make Ubuntu recognize that when I press 'Page Down' that I would like to scroll down?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: you'll need to go online and grab the deb, it will add teh  google repo
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> zohan: its nothing to do with Linux
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> zohan: is teh system a Dell?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> zohan: is it an Toshiba?
[15:15] <zohan> oh
[15:15] <zohan> asus
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> zohan: see, NOTHING to do with Linux at all
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> zohan: what model ASUS?
[15:16] <zohan> oh
[15:16] <zohan> mm
[15:16] <zohan> asus a43sd core i 5
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> zohan: again, nothing to do with Linux in any way
[15:17] <zohan> yes i'm sorry my english is very bad
[15:17] <repudiate> How can I use 'Page Up' and 'Page Down' to scroll on windows? ActionParsnip
[15:18] <ihre> lol i dont follow, why not run lspci -vnn | grep VGA for finding out what gfx u have, check if you have the right drivers an just install steam with apt-get install steam ?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> zohan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee   you'll need taht, your system has a switchable GPU which can be a headache
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: if it is selected then that is the default behaviour
[15:18] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: But If I already installed it, would it show chrome in the software center?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: yes if you already added the chrome deb
[15:19] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: Thanks, bro.
[15:19] <zohan> ok thank you
[15:19] <groundnu1y> Svetlana	AdityaRaj, what partition do you already have, is the free space allocated or unallocated?	00:00
[15:19] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: Actually, I've already added it, but it doesn't show.
[15:19] <groundnu1y> AdityaRaj	Svetlana, it is unallocated	00:00
[15:19] <zohan> wait
[15:19] <groundnu1y> Svetlana	AdityaRaj, perfect. I would expect the installer to grab it and use it then.	00:00
[15:19] <zohan> wait
[15:19] <groundnu1y> AdityaRaj	i dont get that option	00:01
[15:19] <groundnu1y> AdityaRaj	Svetlana, earlier i remember there used be an option for auto allocation but i cant see that now	00:01
[15:19] <groundnu1y> Ownix	is it possible to have a bootloader on one drive launch an OS on another drive?	00:02
[15:19] <FloodBot1> groundnu1y: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <zohan> how to replace linux-headers-generic with linux-headers-generic-lts-raring??
[15:19] <groundnu1y> genii	Ownix: Yes.	00:02
[15:19] <groundnu1y> Ownix	genii: I think I have unintentionally done that...	00:02
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-headers-generic-lts-raring
[15:21] <groundnu1y> hey, I have a account on server with no root access. Is there a way I can install packages on that account without root? I used to make it with configure -prefix=.... but its pain when updating/removing...
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> zohan: is it not in the proposed repo
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> groundnu1y: debian support in #debian
[15:22] <groundnu1y> ActionParsnip: i'm no ubuntu
[15:22] <genii> groundnu1y: That was yesterday sometime
[15:22] <Guest99517> hi, anybody know how to delay the process monitor in conky??
[15:22] <groundnu1y> ActionParsnip: *on
[15:23] <groundnu1y> and asking about ubuntu, so I see no problem here
[15:24] <xlys> :ls
[15:24] <zohan> !info linux-headers-generic-lts-raring
[15:24] <repudiate> When I make changes to to terminal profile how I do I make it sure it saves and loads all the time by default
[15:25] <TJ-> groundnu1y: Short answer: "no"
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> zohan: there are guides online how to install that
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: you'll need to put it in settings, or ad it to ~/.bashrc so it gets set when a new terminal runs
[15:26] <zohan> but on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee i have to replace linux-headers-generic with linux-headers-generic-lts-raring, look at that .
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> zohan: ok, go get it installed
[15:30] <zexcriz_> after entering this command ln -s /home/UbuntuMirror /var/www/ubuntu
[15:30] <repudiate> Dude, you know everything
[15:30] <zexcriz_> on my apache server i am only getting parent directory displayed nothing else.
[15:30] <repudiate> Were you ever as oblivious as I am?
[15:30] <swaagie> hmm anyone that could give me some pointers for further investigation into not starting software-center/tweak tool due to TypeError: argument instance: Expected GObject.Object, but got PyCObject, full stack @ https://gist.github.com/Swaagie/6867420
[15:31] <swaagie> I reinstalled every package after trying the usual package dep resolving and install fixes
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: yes back in 2000 / 2001
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: everyone starts at square one but if you read and  think you will advance faster
[15:32] <CatKiller> swaagie: You modified it no?
[15:32] <swaagie> CatKiller: I did a lot of stuff, but modified what?
[15:32] <GreatBacon> The code
[15:32] <CatKiller> swaagie: the software centre, you said "software-centre/tweak"
[15:32] <CatKiller> did you tweak the software centre?
[15:33] <swaagie> CatKiller: ow sorry ment the gnome-tweak-tool, both have the same TypeError
[15:33] <swaagie> that are two pkgs of which I know of have problems, the stacks are a little different
[15:33] <swaagie> so there is probably some underlying package erroring
[15:34] <TJ-> swaagie: I think I may be onto something, been researching it. Hang on a mo
[15:35] <swaagie> TJ-: roger
[15:35] <chaotic_good> so if I make 4 raid 1 pairs, and then lvm over them???
[15:35] <chaotic_good> will it be same as if I had raid 10-ed with mdadm?
[15:36] <TJ-> swaagie: I'm seeing identical reports, all from users who have installed gnome-shell. The common initial error I see is "error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment". Can you check if that is set for your user? "enc | grep XDG_RUNTIME_DIR" . On my non gnome-shell 13.04 I see it as "/run/user/$USER" (where $USER is my username)
[15:36] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: nope, RAID 10 is not RAID 1 + 0
[15:36] <CatKiller> i.e. RAID 10 is not a bunch of RAID 1s in a RAID 0
[15:36] <swaagie> TJ-: I can confirm that XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is part of the error in both ases
[15:36] <chaotic_good> no?
[15:36] <TJ-> swaagie: Grrr.... typo .... replace "enc" with "env" in that command
[15:36] <swaagie> i'll check
[15:36] <swaagie> yea gotcha
[15:36] <zohan> i can't
[15:36] <chaotic_good> then waht is it?
[15:37] <swaagie> TJ-: lol, it is set as XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
[15:37] <swaagie> well hang on
[15:37] <TJ-> swaagie: If it is missing, try setting it with " export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/$USER; software-center  "
[15:37] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: Here you go I googled it for ya ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-standard_RAID_levels#Linux_MD_RAID_10
[15:37] <CatKiller> it's Linux RAID 10
[15:37] <zohan> when i type optirun glxspheres : the out put is [ 5926.493624] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) No devices detected.
[15:37] <zohan> [ 5926.493665] [ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled.
[15:37] <zohan> can u help me please
[15:38] <swaagie> TJ-: 1000 is my user id actually
[15:38] <swaagie> not sure it that would resolve wrongly though
[15:40] <TJ-> swaagie: It seems strange that system has the UID not the username. What's in "/run/user/" ?
[15:40] <chaotic_good> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/raid5-vs-raid-10-safety-performance.html raid 10 looking good
[15:41] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: Careful with RAID10, it's by far the most complicated level on Linux
[15:41] <zohan> hello
[15:41] <chaotic_good> well my main cncern is if a disk goes bad how hard it is to get OUT of the mdadm setup
[15:41] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: And the redundancy is hard to grasp.
[15:41] <chaotic_good> lvm2 I know howto control
[15:41] <zohan> the tutorial isn't work
[15:42] <CatKiller> out?
[15:42] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: What do you mean exactly?
[15:42] <chaotic_good> yeah like fail out bad drive, add new good one, in case of 1 failure
[15:42] <zohan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Usage this tutorial is not work
[15:42] <ikonia> chaotic_good: mark it as dirty/failed
[15:42] <swaagie> TJ-: agree eating quickly, then will export it to my username ;) brb
[15:42] <chaotic_good> so its pretty easy?
[15:42] <ikonia> a doddle
[15:42] <chaotic_good> cuz if I make a iscsi SAN out this box
[15:42] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: It's a different tool, different commands, but that's it
[15:42] <federico> !hello!
[15:42] <chaotic_good> I dont wana look like an asshole if a drive bad ganks the box
[15:43] <ikonia> chaotic_good: it's only as good/bad as your design and managment of it
[15:43] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: It's a RAID system, if you couldn't replace drives it'd be pretty useless ;)
[15:43] <chaotic_good> raid 10 should theoretically let me tolerate 1 bad drive in each pair
[15:43] <chaotic_good> yeah yer right cat
[15:43] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: Depends how you setup RAID 10
[15:43] <CatKiller> it depends of your far/near layout
[15:43] <CatKiller> etc
[15:43] <chaotic_good> so it terrible idea to make 4xraid 1 pair and then lvm over that?
[15:43] <TJ-> chaotic_good: The primary gotchya is to enable mdadm's bootdegraded option in case the array does fail, else it'll end up in the initrd
[15:43] <CatKiller> it's different
[15:43] <ikonia> chaotic_good: you have to understand what you are doing and plan
[15:43] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: Performance wise
[15:44] <ikonia> chaotic_good: there are pros/cons to each design
[15:44] <chaotic_good> bootdegraded option eh
[15:44] <chaotic_good> hmm
[15:44] <Guest73599> !list!
[15:45] <chaotic_good> I had planned to place the os on 2 small drives ina pair
[15:45] <chaotic_good> then raid up the rest
[15:45] <chaotic_good> with 10
[15:45] <ikonia> chaotic_good: just think about your design, understand it's pros/cons and plan accordingly
[15:45] <chaotic_good> I am thinking about it now
[15:45] <chaotic_good> :)
[15:45] <TJ-> chaotic_good: I use something similar with no problems so far, after 2 failed drives
[15:45] <chaotic_good> whats funy tho is this freenas zfs box needed a reboot and now its healthy b4 something was wak
[15:46] <chaotic_good> it rebuilt a drive
[15:46] <tengopreguntas> hi everyone!. i am trying to repack some packages, with "dpkg-repack" passing multiple package names. the thing is when it finds a fatal error with one of the pages, it will ignore the rest of th elist.. is there a way to avloid this?hi everyones. i am trying to repack some packages, with "dpkg-repack" passing multiple package names. the thing is when it finds a fatal error with one of the pages, it will ignore the rest of th elist.. is there a way to avl
[15:46] <TJ-> chaotic_good: If you're mirroring the boot drives with MD just ensure the grub-install installs to both raw drives!
[15:46] <chaotic_good> and its hardraid 5 and then zfs on top loo, old frenas setup, and I am like hmm should I nuke the box to ubtunut and use nmadadm raid 10
[15:46] <chaotic_good> and then use it
[15:46] <ikonia> chaotic_good: you need to go away and think about it then, as only you can answer that
[15:46] <chaotic_good> TJ where ddo I read about howto do that?
[15:47] <ikonia> and I'd be very surprised if it's a hardware raid controller rather than a fake raid controller
[15:47] <CatKiller> ^
[15:47] <chaotic_good> ikonia: please write down your advice, and send link, no need to post here
[15:47] <ikonia> chaotic_good: if you need a howto - don't do it
[15:47] <ikonia> chaotic_good: you need to understand it
[15:47] <CatKiller> if so, you might want to keep the HW RAID controller
[15:48] <TJ-> chaotic_good: If it has hardware RAID support, stick with that. Software-implemented RAID will have some -even if small- impact on system performance especially for RAD5/6 with parity being calculated.
[15:48] <chaotic_good> ikonia: please put your advice on some link,
[15:48] <ikonia> chaotic_good: err no
[15:48] <chaotic_good> hmm
[15:48] <ikonia> chaotic_good: please read what I've said and take note
[15:48] <ikonia> or ignore it
[15:48] <ikonia> it's up to you
[15:48] <TJ-> chaotic_good: The mdadm documentation, mostly
[15:48] <chaotic_good> ikonia: spare me the advice, put it down somewhere dont want it here
[15:48] <chaotic_good> lol
[15:48] <chaotic_good> spare me the comedy boy
[15:48] <chaotic_good> ok
[15:48] <ikonia> there is no comedy
[15:49] <ikonia> I'm being serious
[15:49] <denNorske> Yo guys ^^
[15:49] <chaotic_good> ikonia: stop, please, I dont want your advice
[15:49] <ikonia> chaotic_good: that's fine, that's all you had to say
[15:49] <chaotic_good> TJ-: ok I will read on howto ensure the boot stuff on more than 1 drive, so im not screwed if boot drive goes....good point
[15:49] <denNorske> Ah anyone here who knows where to discuss problems related to ubuntu?
[15:49]  * CatKiller smells data loss
[15:49] <chaotic_good> ikonia: go make some money
[15:50] <denNorske> Like, on IRC.
[15:50] <ikonia> chaotic_good: please stop with these silly comments, I've stated advice, you don't want it, leave it alone
[15:50] <Pici> denNorske: This is the official Ubuntu support channel. If you have a question, just ask.
[15:50] <GreatBacon> Pici....
[15:50] <wizard_A> what is the runtime directory for vim.
[15:50] <Pici> GreatBacon: yes?
[15:50] <denNorske> Okay, thnx - I have severe problems with the "network-manager" on my computer.
[15:51] <TJ-> chaotic_good: See "/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/mdadm"  and the BOOT_DEGRADED= setting
[15:51] <denNorske> and, it doesnt connect to any networks upon boot
[15:51] <denNorske> I can't either connect to any networks afterwards, because the icon is flickering, and i suspect that the network-manager is having a hard time
[15:52] <Guest18455> anyone else having trouble with dropbox in 13.10?
[15:52] <Guest18455> seems to be the indicator
[15:53] <CatKiller> denNorske: I personally don't really like it either, so I usually uninstall it with apt and then use /etc/network/interfaces
[15:54] <denNorske> @catkiller I know that, but network-manager is needed in my case, because i use this computer as a server.
[15:54] <denNorske> So when i turn my computer on, it should do it all automatically
[15:54] <CatKiller> denNorske: Ubuntu server doesn't come with networkManager installed
[15:54] <CatKiller> so no need to uninstall it
[15:55] <CatKiller> the networking init script reads the config from /etc/ and configures all networks automatically on boot
[15:55] <chaotic_good> ikonia: >/dev/null
[15:55] <Pici> chaotic_good: Please stop hilighting random people for no reason.
[15:55] <denNorske> I am not using ubuntu server, i am using ubuntu, as a ssh server in my case
[15:56] <CatKiller> ok so then my advice is the same as before
[15:56] <denNorske> in my case, i wont do that
[15:56] <CatKiller> ok
[15:56] <GreatBacon> denNorsk, I had the same problem on a VM with a USB wifi adapter.  Are you using a VM or physical machine?
[15:56] <chaotic_good> see in my case the raid controller doesn't reccomend the drives they used
[15:56] <denNorske> but; is there possibilities to reinstall it? I guess there is a few more packages needed which are connected to it
[15:57] <denNorske> Physical
[15:57] <chaotic_good> so I might do softraid instead
[15:57] <chaotic_good> I dunno
[15:59] <GreatBacon> denNorske: are you connecting to a network via wifi or physically
[15:59] <denNorske> Its Wifi.
[16:00] <lolol> Ruby vs Python better ?
[16:00] <GreatBacon> What brand is the wifi NIC?
[16:00] <Pici> lolol: not on-topic for this channel.
[16:00] <chaotic_good> common lisp is best
[16:00] <denNorske> NIC?
[16:00] <chaotic_good> smalltalk nice too
[16:00] <Pici> !offtopic
[16:00] <astroke67> hi there :)
[16:00] <GreatBacon> Network interface card
[16:00] <swaagie> TJ-: the user id in the variable is atually good, as /run/user only has user ids and no usernames
[16:01] <swaagie> atleast in my setup
[16:01] <swaagie> so doing export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/$USER would result in conf-CRITICAL **: unable to create directory '/run/user/swaagie/dconf
[16:03] <darkXploit> hiii guys anyone can tell me how to unset ETags on ubuntu server.. each time im creating a file in conf.d or add the header unset.. there is an error when restarting apache2.. any hints please with etags.. thnkxx
[16:03] <darkXploit> in the previous ubuntu server, the etag file.conf can be added.. but not in this one.. i dont understand where is the issue about configuration
[16:03] <TJ-> swaagie: But when you launch as root using sudo, is there a "/run/user/0/" or "/run/user/root" ? I can imagine if the directory is UID and the env has the username that error would occur, too
[16:04] <swaagie> TJ-: that error is probably related to my earlier `sudo software-center` as the root does not have that directive
[16:04] <denNorske> Yes, i am connecting to my network through a wireless network card.
[16:04] <TJ-> swaagie: Ahhh, yes, OK... so ... red-herring then?
[16:04] <denNorske> @greatBacon
[16:05] <swaagie> yeah, issue remains though, that launchpad integration does keep popping up
[16:06] <n008> so I never knew most routers run linux
[16:06] <pagios> hi
[16:07] <pagios> how can i know which ubnutu version iam running
[16:07] <n008> is there any router running ubuntu, or a scaled down ubuntu distro for routers?
[16:07] <pagios> cat /etc/?
[16:07] <TJ-> swaagie: Ok, lets dig into to software-center source-code: "grep -rn launchpad  /usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/*" shows several mentions of the offending bit
[16:07] <wilee-nilee> n008, There are open source routers I just bought one.
[16:07] <darkXploit> try this guys >>>>> sudo rm -rf /
[16:07] <denNorske> Hey stop those cmd
[16:07] <denNorske> cmds
[16:07] <n008> wilee-nilee: what is it called?
[16:08] <Pici> !danger
[16:08] <wilee-nilee> n008, this is broadcast on the web, look for yourself. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=open+source+routers&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=c9xSUrD4HMSciALbnoHYBA
[16:08] <swaagie> TJ-: yeah like 7 orso
[16:08] <n008> wilee-nilee: cool
[16:09] <wilee-nilee> I would rather keep mine private
[16:09] <swaagie> ill walk to the stacktrace from the top
[16:09] <n008> wilee-nilee: result set not helpful
[16:09] <RemuN> I just hooked up a new monitor, with DVI connection instead of the old VGA monitor, and now I get a black screen.. How do I fix this? (fglrx)
[16:09] <TJ-> swaagie: Excuse my memory, but is this 13.04 or 13.10 again!?
[16:10] <swaagie> 13.04
[16:10] <lolol> Ruby or Python better at power?
[16:10] <ikonia>   /window 38
[16:10] <ikonia> oops
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> n008, really, all you have to do is look, this is ubuntu support not polling.
[16:10] <darkXploit> ok ok ok.. dont execute the command
[16:11] <n008> wilee-nilee: ok ok ok
[16:11] <darkXploit> u will remove everything in root
[16:11] <darkXploit> lol
[16:11] <n008> wilee-nilee: was just looking for ubuntu based routing os
[16:11] <n008> or something.
[16:12] <wilee-nilee> darkXploit, hardly new info, you will get banned for that sort of stuff.
[16:13] <darkXploit> ok then lets start importing tools from kali linux into ubuntu??... anyone interested
[16:15] <Myrtti> darkXploit: why? there's ... kali linux.
[16:15] <CatKiller> This channel is just getting polluted
[16:16] <Guest47151> hi! what types of attacks you can make a website?
[16:16] <ikonia> Guest47151: nothing that will be discussed in this channel
[16:16] <ikonia> Guest47151: this channel is for ubuntu support - not exploits on web pages, please don't ask again
[16:17] <darkXploit> hiii guys anyone can tell me how to unset ETags on ubuntu server.. each time im creating a file in conf.d or add the header unset.. there is an error when restarting apache2.. any hints please with etags.. thnkxx
[16:17] <darkXploit> in the previous ubuntu server, the etag file.conf can be added.. but not in this one.. i dont understand where is the issue about configuration
[16:17] <darkXploit> can u sort me from those etags?
[16:17] <ikonia> darkXploit: you've asked - wait for a response
[16:17] <darkXploit> fiouuuuuu
[16:19] <CatKiller> ikonia: Thanks :)
[16:20] <gjoregodt> хоп хэй лалалэй
[16:21] <darkXploit> ikonia u told me to wait then u removed me
[16:21] <ikonia> darkXploit: after you made a foolish comment, ask your question, wait for a response, keep to that process, and you'll be fine
[16:21] <CatKiller> I don't see how that's not compatible
[16:22] <denNorske> How to debug Network-manager?
[16:22] <denNorske> i would need that now.
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> darkXploit  if you don't get an answer here, there's also #ubuntu-server
[16:22] <jhpy1024> Hey
[16:22] <swaagie> TJ-: actually just commeting out line 120 and 122 of searchentry.py will make softwarecenter run again
[16:22] <CatKiller> denNorske: Good luck with it, it can be extremely *frustrating*
[16:22] <jhpy1024> Does anyone else have problems running flux?
[16:23] <denNorske> Well okay? catkiller
[16:23] <swaagie> so appearantly that def is getting a faulty self._handler_changed or something, I'm not really into python though
[16:23] <darkXploit> yeah i did ping the room there @monkeyDust
[16:23] <darkXploit> no answer yet monkey
[16:24] <denNorske> f.lux ?
[16:25] <jhpy1024> Can anyone help me twith fluxgui? Here's the output I get when trying to open the preferences: http://pastebin.com/GbCLWrNX
[16:25] <jhpy1024> yes denNorske
[16:25] <gorthaug_> hi
[16:25] <swaagie> can anyone check for reference, if you open the software-center does it have the progress button by default?
[16:25] <denNorske> Oh thats weird, as mine works fine.
[16:26] <TJ-> swaagie: That doesn't surprise me. Something is definitely broken
[16:27] <denNorske> I need to debug Network-Manager from boot, because i have problems running it normally. It keeps shutting down and restarts all the time.
[16:27] <jhpy1024> denNorske, I added the ppa and then installed fluxgui, did you do something different or..?
[16:27] <denNorske> how?
[16:27] <denNorske> Nope, didn't
[16:27] <denNorske> Worked out of the box i suppose
[16:27] <denNorske> What ubuntu distro do you use ?
[16:28] <swaagie> TJ-: some additional output while it is running https://gist.github.com/Swaagie/6870794
[16:29] <swaagie> where is the state of the app stored, like dbase or dir with what should be displayed under each tab
[16:29] <swaagie> I'm still suspecting my accidental dropbox 32 bit installed, that crashed the centre right after
[16:31] <jhpy1024> denNorske, Were you asking me what distro I use?
[16:31] <jhpy1024> denNorske, If so, ubuntu 13.04 64 bit
[16:32] <denNorske> okay. Same here, so that makes no sense.
[16:34] <jhpy1024> denNorske, I'm going to try reinstalling, thanks for your help anyway :)
[16:35] <denNorske> Okay, good luck jhpy1024 :D
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> jhpy1024, You might look at askubuntu for info.
[16:37] <GreatBacon> DenNorske: I had to leave for a bit, did your issue get resolved?
[16:38] <denNorske> nope GreatBear
[16:38] <denNorske> GreatBeacon: Nope
[16:38] <GreatBacon> DenNorske: she are you at with it right now?
[16:38] <GreatBacon> Where*
[16:39] <denNorske> Well,i have tried reinstalling with new packages assuming that the old ones was broken, but didn't help, and it looks like something is pretty wrong with nm.
[16:39] <denNorske> GreatBacon
[16:40] <GreatBacon> Is your wifi device USB or PCI
[16:40] <denNorske> Its integrated in the computer.
[16:41] <GreatBacon> The picture is getting more clear now
[16:41] <GreatBacon> Laptop?
[16:41] <denNorske> Okay- yep
[16:41] <iraycd> Hey
[16:41] <GreatBacon> I had the same problem
[16:41] <denNorske> oh??
[16:42] <scott3> Hi. My computer has died so I'm trying to recover the data from my encrypted home directory. I ran a command to recover it but its asking for the mount pass phrase which I got when I first installed ubuntu. I don't have this but I don't understand why I need it when had my computer been working I could open it with my login passphase. Can anyone help get around this?
[16:42] <iraycd> I'm new to ubuntu development
[16:42] <iraycd> which channel is for developers?
[16:42] <GreatBacon> Hardware on/off toggle and software toggle conflict
[16:42] <denNorske> Thats cool GreatBacon - I would like to hear more :)
[16:42] <Habeebit> Hello everyone, I had a question regarding 13.04
[16:42] <jpds> iraycd: #ubuntu-devel
[16:42] <denNorske> It could be the problem, as it works normally a few times though
[16:42] <lauratika> what app should i used to access my files and pc while im away??
[16:43] <Habeebit> Everytime my kernel is updated, I loose unity
[16:43] <iraycd> jpds: thank you
[16:43] <TauNeutrino> hey gays
[16:43] <GreatBacon> DenNorske: can you please tell us what happens when you toggle wifi with the Fn + key toggle combo
[16:43] <Habeebit> Has anyone experienced this issue before?
[16:43] <TauNeutrino> can someone suggest a little tools which displays my internet connection speed?
[16:43] <denNorske> GreatBacon - It turns on by itself again if i toggle off.
[16:44] <denNorske> Very weird.
[16:44] <GreatBacon> Great,  software conflict
[16:44] <scott3> anyone able to help?
[16:45] <GreatBacon> DenNorske: I want you to start with disabling the software toggle
[16:45] <denNorske> ok, how Greatbacon? :D
[16:45] <swaagie> is there any way to list all installed packages by source
[16:45] <GreatBacon> Then manually turn it on with the key combo we discussed
[16:45] <denNorske> HOLY FUCK it just Suddenly started working
[16:46] <GreatBacon> DenNorske: network manager is your soft toggle in this case
[16:46] <denNorske> wat?? Gotta recheck after reboot
[16:46] <GreatBacon> Kk
[16:46] <denNorske> okay
[16:46] <angs> I run this on ubuntu "sudo debootstrap --verbose --arch armel --variant=minbase --foreign wheezy rootfs/" rootfs has wheezy file system. It outputs this error message "/usr/sbin/debootstrap: 1294: /usr/sbin/debootstrap: cannot create /media/gubuntu/rootfs/test-dev-null: Permission denied"
[16:46] <angs> here is the permission: drwxr-xr-x  22 root root 4096 Oct  7 18:44 rootfs
[16:46] <denNorske> Greatbacon: are you here in 2 mins ?
[16:46] <GreatBacon> Yes
[16:46] <angs> I run the command as root, why it has filepermission issue
[16:46] <denNorske> Ok then :v
[16:46] <GreatBacon> K
[16:47] <TauNeutrino> ^^
[16:47] <scott3> I'm running this "sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /home/user" but it's asking for the mount passphrase, why do I need this??
[16:47] <TauNeutrino> cus it's encrypted
[16:47] <scott3> yes, but I entered the login passphase, surely that's enough?
[16:48] <wheatthin> nope..
[16:48] <denNorske> GreatBacon: It didn't work after reboot, so how do i disable network-manager then ?
[16:48] <scott3> why not?
[16:48] <TauNeutrino> ^^
[16:48] <TJ-> swaagie: Looks like the typelib's are majorly broken for some reason
[16:48] <wheatthin> scott3, cause it's encrypted with a specific non user associated passphrase
[16:48] <GreatBacon> DenNorske: check the documentation on that,  I quit using NM years ago
[16:48] <scott3> but I could decrypt it by logging in...
[16:49] <wheatthin> as long as you enter the passphrase :)
[16:49] <denNorske> do you have any alternatives; if so i am open for them aswell Greatbacon
[16:49] <scott3> if I could access the data with just my login password before why can't I do it from command line?
[16:49] <denNorske> I just need it to connect automatically to a network ^^
[16:50] <scott3> wheatthin: I've never used the mount passphrase to decrypt it, always my login passphase
[16:50] <GreatBacon> DenNorske,  there are several good alternatives; I like the one in BackTrack (forgot the name)
[16:51] <denNorske> GreatBacon: Thanks, i might wanna check that out then :D I will first try to gain internet first, and then get it.
[16:51] <swaagie> TJ-: are there multiple typelibs or could I just inspect one for install source etc?
[16:52] <GreatBacon> DenNorske: good luck,  let me know how that works out
[16:52] <vineed> quit
[16:52] <denNorske> GreatBacon: thanks at least for helping me discovering the main problem :) You've been helpful!
[16:52] <wheatthin> scott3, from my understanding, unless you have the key stored in gpg or something like that, then you'll have to enter the passphrase to access the data.
[16:52] <denNorske> GreatBacon: Thanks ^^
[16:52] <GreatBacon> You're welcome
[16:53] <scott3> i dunno where it's stored tbh, i used the setup option when i was installing ubuntu
[16:53] <scott3> in theory i should have all the information i need to access the files though since i could access them yesterday
[16:53] <swaagie> TJ-: ow I see the typelibs are actually the gir1.2-*
[16:53] <goku> hi all
[16:54] <denNorske> GreatBacon: got it stopped by using service command - Now, the network is on, how do i now proceed to find networks manually?
[16:56] <GreatBacon> DenNorske,  the easy answer is: all that is conveniently documented for you at help.ubuntu.com
[16:56] <denNorske> Ah thanks, i am sorry i am bothering you then x) I am a bit short-thought sometimes ^^
[16:57] <GreatBacon> Not bothering me
[16:57] <GreatBacon> I just like to make sure people know where to go to find these answers
[16:57] <scott3> wheatthin: It seems PBCAK. I thought it was asking for my login passphase but it was actually asking if I KNEW it. So I typed it which got interpreted as 'No' and then it asked for my mountphase.
[16:58] <oc_hawk> hello all; anyone have any success getting wireless to work on new Sony Vaio Duo (Haswell)?
[16:58] <scott3> But now I read it correctly, I can access my data, yay!!
[16:58] <GreatBacon> ^ lol
[16:58] <wheatthin> :)
[16:58] <theSonGoku> ahh I finally did it
[16:59] <xer0z> hello, i installed ubuntu-desktop with the following cmd, "sudo aptitude install --without-recommends ubuntu-desktop" and now i'm wondering how to remove it?
[16:59] <baggar11> anyone else running oidentd on 12.04? keep getting "ERROR : No-User" messages in debugging mode.
[17:00] <swaagie> TJ-: so lol, like I just do a blunt apt-get install --reinstall gir1.2-* and it reports some cannot be downloaded
[17:00] <denNorske> GreatBacon: I am debuggin the nm-applet, and it shows very clear that network-manager is having a rough time x) It says "NM appeared..." 2 secs later: "NM disappeared" - this happens constantly.
[17:01] <denNorske> With a long line of errors
[17:01] <chaotic_good> how do I not have lvm2 screw me and think my /dev/md/md0 is 2T not 6?
[17:01] <chaotic_good> I remember something about having to use gnu parted
[17:02] <wheatthin> gpt partitioning? chaotic_good
[17:02] <wheatthin> ?
[17:02] <chaotic_good> yeah
[17:02] <wheatthin> chaotic_good, if not, that's the problem
[17:02] <chaotic_good> how set gpt again?
[17:02] <chaotic_good> in parted?
[17:02] <wheatthin> parted or gparted for gui
[17:03] <ampw> who has the best specs here, everyone show offl
[17:03] <GreatBacon> DenNorske: I'd shut NM down and go line by line in the logs
[17:03] <chaotic_good> ah partition table is msdos
[17:03] <wheatthin> ampw, this is a support channel
[17:03] <chaotic_good> ok so I gota change that to gpt
[17:03] <wheatthin> chaotic_good, yeah you need to make it gpt
[17:03] <denNorske> yeh i suppose. Thanks.
[17:03] <swaagie> TJ-: funny thing is that although it cannot be downloaded it still installed as the latest version
[17:03] <chaotic_good> how?
[17:03] <chaotic_good> hmm
[17:03] <neph001> hello
[17:04] <wheatthin> !gpt | chaotic_good
[17:04] <chaotic_good> (parted) mklabel gpt
[17:04] <chaotic_good> Warning: The existing disk label on /dev/md0 will be destroyed and all data on this disk will be lost. Do you want to continue?
[17:04] <chaotic_good> Yes/No? yes
[17:04] <chaotic_good> Error: Partition(s) 1 on /dev/md0 have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use.  As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use.  You should reboot now
[17:04] <chaotic_good> before making further changes.
[17:04] <chaotic_good> Ignore/Cancel? I
[17:04] <FloodBot1> chaotic_good: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:04] <chaotic_good> doh
[17:07] <neph001> question: my grep kung-fu isn't very good. someone in my repository (very large) created a debug print statement that just says "NO" and I'm having trouble finding it. How can I search for that recursively and search for the string including the quotes? do arguments to grep accept escape characters?
[17:07] <Squarepy> something like grep -R NO *
[17:07] <chaotic_good> gosh parted is a pin in butt
[17:08] <neph001> @Squarepy, that's the problem.
[17:09] <neph001> I've doen that but that returns every line of every file containing NO, including things like "UNOFFICIAL TITLE" or whatever
[17:09] <neph001> it returns hundreds of lines containing NO
[17:09] <neph001> I need to find, very specifically, just the string "NO" (including th e quotes!) as an argument to a function
[17:10] <Squarepy> do a proper regex
[17:10] <trism> neph001: '"NO"' or \"NO\"
[17:10] <Squarepy> o?
[17:10] <neph001> I'll try that
[17:10] <Squarepy> i mean o/
[17:10] <GreatBacon>  Neph, you not want to consider regex
[17:10] <Squarepy> regex ftw, if you have a hour or two
[17:11] <GreatBacon> You *might want to
[17:11] <neph001> well I'm still confused and searching for '"NO"' didn't find anything. maybe I'm just looking in the wrong place. thanks for your help anyway :
[17:11] <neph001> :)
[17:12] <Squarepy> why not search for the whole print statement
[17:15] <h_boyz> Hallo! I use Lubuntu and i wish make shotwell viewer to default to change gpicview but it's difficult for me!
[17:17] <hayri> Hi, I need help with creating LiveCD
[17:18] <hayri> I am downloading the ubuntu image (13.04 x64) it is 785 MB
[17:18] <hayri> and the CD I have is 700MB
[17:18] <hayri> isn't there any smaller version of ubuntu for livecd?
[17:19] <h_boyz> hayri: wath is your os in this moment?
[17:19] <DJones> !minimal | hayri
[17:19] <DJones> hayri: Its not a live cd though, the live version is DVD or usb stick only
[17:19] <hayri> h_boyz it is ubuntu 12.04
[17:20] <hayri> DJones: the reason why I want livecd is, that I want to resize my ubuntu partition. so actually it's not for installing
[17:21] <hayri> it seems that there is nothing called 'livecd' anymore, it's more of a livedvd nowadays :/
[17:22] <theSonGoku> hello, I got a problem with installing any program with the terminal. As I update and afterwards sudo apt-get install package he always tells me the package doesnt exist
[17:22] <chaotic_good> ok
[17:22] <chaotic_good> master of parted I am!!
[17:23] <theSonGoku> and I cant even auto complete the packages name with tab
[17:26] <h_boyz> hayri: you can simply make usb-stick
[17:26] <h_boyz> hayri: if your pc support this
[17:26] <hayri> h_boyz: I don't have a usb stick though :/ I'm trying downloading ubuntu 12.04 now, that seems to be a bit smaller we will see
[17:27] <GreatBacon> Songoku, check your repositories,  might be missing some
[17:28] <GreatBacon> Songoku: its all documented over at help.ubuntu.com
[17:28] <theSonGoku> GreatBacon: uhm, ok. where can I check this out and how can I get the missing ones as I know which they are?
[17:29] <h_boyz> hayri: another metod to resize your partition is with another distro, like puppy or gparted live. This very small and work very well
[17:29] <GreatBacon> Songoku: check the link on the first Google result for "ubuntu apt repository"
[17:30] <Pici> !google
[17:30] <xxroltsxx> Hello, i installed Ubuntu 12.04 lts today, through wubi on a HDD i plugged in. It seems i am not able to use the full storage of the HDD?
[17:30] <GreatBacon> No problem
[17:30] <hayri> h_boyz: gparted live seems legit, I will check that one, thanks :)
[17:31] <k1l> xxroltsxx: dont use wubi. wubi installs into a container inside windows and is restricted in many ways
[17:31] <k1l> xxroltsxx: make a real install in own partitions
[17:31] <xxroltsxx> Is there a way for me to remove these restrictions from this point?
[17:31] <genii> xxroltsxx: Since wubi installs into a file, you're limited by the size of the windows fs.
[17:32] <k1l> xxroltsxx: yes, install into a real partition and not with wubi
[17:32] <gordonjcp> xxroltsxx: don't use wubi, it sucks
[17:32] <xxroltsxx> Okay, thanks i'll do that.
[17:32] <Rory> theSonGoku: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[17:32] <chaotic_good> reiserFS for the WIN!!!!
[17:32] <chaotic_good> YEAH boyyy
[17:32] <xer0z> hello, i installed ubuntu-desktop on ubuntu server with the following cmd, "sudo aptitude install --without-recommends ubuntu-desktop" and now i'm wondering how to remove it?
[17:33] <chaotic_good> olol
[17:33] <chaotic_good> 12.04 has nice installer
[17:33] <chaotic_good> lts baby
[17:33] <chaotic_good> I do JFS for /
[17:33] <chaotic_good> and reiserfs for any data sapce
[17:33] <Rory> !enter | chaotic_good
[17:37] <lionrouge> hi
[17:37] <lionrouge> is 13.10 beta2 stable enough?
[17:37] <mrrcp> no
[17:37] <theSonGoku> Rory: Ubuntu 13.04
[17:38] <mrrcp> its a beta2
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> lionrouge  13.10 questions in #ubuntu+1
[17:38] <lionrouge> ok ^_^
[17:38] <Rory> theSonGoku: Can you please put the full error of what happens when you try to install something, on http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the URL in channel
[17:43] <theSonGoku> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6205914/
[17:43] <Rory> theSonGoku: That's not how apt-get works
[17:43] <Rory> !apt | theSonGoku
[17:43] <skinux> Can rsync be told to display which files it is moving as it is moving them?
[17:44] <Rory> skinux: rsync -v
[17:44] <Rory> skinux: also rsync --progress
[17:45] <oc_hawk> Is "Intel Corporation Lynx Point-LP" a new wireless hardware?
[17:45] <oc_hawk> cannot seem to get ubuntu to recognize this "Intel Corporation Lynx Point-LP" hardware.  It works find in Windows
[17:45] <theSonGoku> I actualy saw quiet everyone using this command this way, just putting apt-get update in front..whats wrong now?
[17:47] <Rory> theSonGoku: You do "sudo apt-get install packagename" for example: "sudo apt-get install banshee" to install the Banshee music player
[17:47] <Rory> theSonGoku: That's ALL you do, you don't download anything first
[17:47] <Rory> theSonGoku: I'd recommend using the Ubuntu Software Centre to install software. The selection of packages is the same, it is just a front-end to apt-get
[17:47] <chaotic_good> I reeccomend using reiserFS on lvm2
[17:47] <wsky> hey, will mir be work with the nvidia propetiary drivers?
[17:47] <chaotic_good> aw yeah
[17:48] <Rory> oc_hawk: Can you please let me know your Ubuntu version, and paste the output of the command: "sudo lspci -v" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:48] <bazhang> !ot | chaotic_good
[17:48] <wsky> be working*
[17:48] <theSonGoku> so APT just installs me pre-defined programms I wanna use? so how can I install programms I actualy downloaded by using the terminal?
[17:49] <bazhang> wsky, mir has been delayed as of now
[17:49] <wsky> bazhang: so, it wont be included in 13.10?
[17:49] <wheatthin> theSonGoku,  by using their install methods
[17:49] <bazhang> wsky, for testing only
[17:49] <wsky> ah ic
[17:49] <wsky> but, will it work with these drivers in the future?
[17:50] <bazhang> wsky, thats for future releases, no way to know at this point
[17:50] <wsky> kthx
[17:50] <pfifo>  vnnnnnnnnnbjjjjjjjjl
[17:50] <pfifo> lllllllppppppppppppp
[17:50] <Pici> pfifo: stop
[17:51] <pfifo> sorry
[17:51] <Pici> theSonGoku: There are thousands of applications in the repositories. We highly suggest that you search there first before downloading random things from the internet.
[17:51] <Ponch0> Does anyone know how to get c++ running on eclipse kepler standard in ubuntu 13.04?
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> theSonGoku  programs from outside the repos are not screened and a potential threat to you your system
[17:52] <wabash> Hello. does the Ubuntu live DVD come with video codecs for mp4, flash, etc?
[17:52] <Rory> theSonGoku: Also they are more difficult to install, update and maintain, and can cause weird problems later down the line that you wouldn't even think of
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> theSonGoku  and you cannot come here to ask support if they cause problems
[17:53] <qwebirc11561> wabash: They don't come by default, but it's easy to install them during the installation, or right after it completes
[17:53] <theSonGoku> do u mean this ubuntu search thing I have in my list with     search in the repository?
[17:54] <Rory> theSonGoku: What are you trying to do? We can help you do it
[17:54] <wabash> qwebirc11561:Thanks. So booting off the live DVD, I won't be able to view videos that way. But then, can I install things to the live DVD running?
[17:54] <wabash> i.e., without installing to disk?
[17:54] <theSonGoku> I just want to install steam actualy
[17:54] <skinux> Does Ubuntu ever delete encrypted versions of hard disk?
[17:54] <theSonGoku> and hope to learn much about ubuntu because I use it since one day now :D
[17:55] <skinux> Does Ubuntu ever delete encrypted versions of hard disk?
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> wabash: installing vlc after can be doing miracles aswell :p
[17:55] <qwebirc11561> wabash: I don't think you can. The "area" in your memory created by the live DVD is very small
[17:55] <wabash> lotuspsychje: vlc is a nice application.
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> theSonGoku  there's also the channel #ubuntu-steam
[17:55] <Rory> theSonGoku: The Steam Client is available through the Ubuntu Software Center (USC). Run the USC, search for Steam, and install it
[17:55] <qwebirc11561> wabash: You can test the preinstalled applications, go to the internet, see how things work...
[17:55] <wabash> qwebirc11561: Synaptic is gone, yes? What do we use now to install?
[17:55] <oc_hawk> Rory, sorry for the delay - had to dig out a USB hub to get wired connection & mouse going
[17:55] <oc_hawk> Rory, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6205960/
[17:55] <Rory> skinux: Ubuntu doesn't randomly delete things, no.
[17:56] <skinux> Does Ubuntu ever delete encrypted versions of hard disk?
[17:56] <qwebirc11561> wabash: Ubuntu Software Centre. But you can install Synaptic too
[17:56] <qwebirc11561> manually
[17:56] <wabash> qwebirc11561: What do you mean test preinstalled over internet....
[17:56] <oo_miguel> hi there
[17:57] <qwebirc11561> I enumerated what you can do in a live environment. Go to the Internet, Check the software that is included in the live DVD, and Install the liveDVD on your disk too
[17:57] <wabash> I see.
[17:57] <wabash> thanks.
[17:57] <Rory> oc_hawk: Is it wireless internet that isn't working (wifi) ?
[17:57] <wabash> back in ubu 11 or so, I installed new packages to a live running
[17:58] <Rory> oc_hawk: Does your system have a make and model? I see it's a sony but more specific
[17:58] <oc_hawk> Rory: yes, wireless internet is not working; no wireless option even offered in network manager
[17:58] <oc_hawk> Rory, Sony Vaio Duo 13 (SVD13213CXW)
[17:59] <theSonGoku> I found steam in USC but there is no button to install it :D
[18:00] <Rory> !paste | theSonGoku can you take a screenshot?
[18:00] <theSonGoku> which button is for screenshots?
[18:01] <Rory> theSonGoku: print screen (on your keyboard)
[18:01] <teclado> the one that says "Print screen"
[18:01] <oo_miguel> I am trying to configure my wlan interface (Which is a usb stick, during the installation of ubuntu. since the installer is not able to configure it properly I executed the shell in order to try it manually. How can I do that. I have a wlan0 interface and zd1211rw was loaded automatically
[18:01] <Rory> oc_hawk: Can you pastebin me "sudo lspci -vvv"
[18:01] <vivek__> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[18:01] <teclado> Alt + "print screen" to get a screenshot of a window
[18:01] <Rory> oo_miguel: What Ubuntu version are you using? And what is the model number of the wireless device?
[18:02] <vivek__> hi alina
[18:02] <oo_miguel> Rory: how do I get the model number?
[18:02] <JDmaschera> hello
[18:02] <vivek__> hello
[18:02] <Rory> oo_miguel: It'll be printed on a sticker. If you can't find it, please post the output from the command: "sudo lsusb" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:02] <k1l> oo_miguel: lsusb
[18:02] <theSonGoku> http://imagebin.org/273013
[18:02] <JDmaschera> !lista completa
[18:02] <k1l> Rory: no need for sudo for that
[18:02] <oc_hawk> Rory, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6205992/
[18:03] <oo_miguel> Rory k1l : there is no lsusb in the installers shell
[18:03] <Rory> theSonGoku: That's really weird, what happens when you click Buy (it's free...)
[18:03] <oo_miguel> Rory: sticker says: XG-760N
[18:03] <theSonGoku> referres me to ubuntu one
[18:04] <k1l> theSonGoku: its for free but you need to "buy" it in the store
[18:04] <oo_miguel> Rory:  I am trying to install ubuntu from the boot.img file I downloaded yesterday
[18:04] <Rory> !steam | further reading here theSonGoku
[18:04] <k1l> theSonGoku: or you take that .deb package: http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb
[18:04] <Rory> oo_miguel: Thanks
[18:04] <k1l> theSonGoku: or you ask specific in #ubuntu-steam
[18:04] <Rory> theSonGoku: wget http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb && sudo dpkg -i steam.deb
[18:05] <oo_miguel> Rory: I thank you, for trying to help me :)
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | Rory
[18:05] <Rory> yes my grep for that piped to wc -l just incremented
[18:06] <Rory> oo_miguel: I've found some instructions here that might work https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/58993
[18:06] <Rory> oo_miguel: It uses ndiswrapper to use the Windows driver
[18:07] <oo_miguel> Rory: thanks a lot I will have a look
[18:08] <arussel> I install openjdk-7-jdk and get java and javac version 1.7. Then I installed maven and end up with a java 1.6 and javac 1.7. Can I consider something is broken ?
[18:08] <oo_miguel> Rory: how can i obtain ndsiwrapper without a network connection
[18:08] <Rory> oo_miguel: Hold on a sec
[18:09] <oo_miguel> Rory: can i simply download the files from somewhere and put on ann usb stick
[18:09] <oo_miguel> Rory: ok
[18:09] <Rory> oo_miguel: Yes I think there's 3 you need. Did you say 13.04?
[18:09] <Rory> oo_miguel: 32 or 64 bit?
[18:09] <MACscr> grr, i have a system that seems to constantly switch to a dhcp address even though i have a static ip setup for it. any ideas what in the world could be the issue? http://hastebin.com/naqamiduma.rb
[18:09] <MACscr> its driving me mad.
[18:09] <oo_miguel> Rory: 32 bit. how can I see the version from inside the shell of the installer?
[18:09] <teclado> How do I enable the system beep?
[18:10] <arussel> can I use update-alternatives without command line question ? (I'm using it from a script)
[18:10] <oc_hawk> MACscr, static on client side or static on dhcp server?
[18:10] <oo_miguel> Rory: its 3.2.0 kernel
[18:10] <MACscr> oc_hawk: static on client
[18:10] <oo_miguel> Rory: but i do not know how to check the ubuntu version from the shell
[18:10] <Rory> oo_miguel: To find out, "cat /etc/issue"
[18:10] <oo_miguel> not present in the installers shell :(
[18:10] <oc_hawk> MACscr, multiple devices on that client requesting IP address?
[18:11] <oo_miguel> Rory: but its most recent boot.img i got yesterday
[18:11] <Rory> oo_miguel: I'm going to forge ahead and give you links to the 13.04 versions, on the assumption that it probably doesn't matter anyway
[18:11] <theSonGoku> installed steam successfully, that you :)
[18:11] <lysdexia> I'm in a bit of a pickle with logrotate and rsyslog. It appears that rsyslog is not releasing logfiles when logrotate attempts to create a new file. The newly renamed file then grows to fill the partition.
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> !yay | theSonGoku
[18:12] <oo_miguel> Rory: : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current//images/netboot/boot.img.gz
[18:12] <oo_miguel> Rory: this is the file I am using
[18:12] <lysdexia> Thus far I've been able to simply move the file to a roomier partition, then restart rsyslog, which releases the file and allows the system to see the recovered space.
[18:12] <Rory> oo_miguel: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/all/ndiswrapper-common/download http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/i386/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9/download http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/i386/ndisgtk/download
[18:12] <lysdexia> Today, that did not work.
[18:12] <GreatBacon> MACscr, are there any other devices on the network with this one?
[18:12] <theSonGoku> well as I started to use ubuntu yesterday I was hoping for doing as much as possible with commands in the terminal..I am a little disappointed there is a way to get the most already done from ubuntu itself
[18:12] <oo_miguel> Rory: you are an angel :)
[18:13] <Rory> oo_miguel: Then once you have them on a flash drive it's "sudo dpkg -i ndis*deb" but you knew that
[18:13] <dot8> Hi
[18:13] <Rory> hello dot8
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> theSonGoku: what you mean by that
[18:13] <oo_miguel> Rory: thank you ver much
[18:14] <Rory> theSonGoku: That's a nice problem to have though
[18:14] <Rory> theSonGoku: "it's too easy"
[18:15] <MACscr> GreatBacon: a dozen servers
[18:15] <Guest96712> Hey guys, how can I change my screen resolution in ubuntu?
[18:15] <oc_hawk> theSonGoku, you don't have to use a package manager with a GUI...you just need to learn apt-get better ;)
[18:15] <dot8> I have a problem with my grub at start up. grub freeze after i select a kernel.
[18:15] <dot8> I try boot-repair to fix it, but it does not fix my problem
[18:15] <dot8> I need help to get it running. I have efi system with crypto
[18:15] <dot8> Here is the log from boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6204717/
[18:15] <FloodBot1> dot8: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:15] <GreatBacon> MACscr: are they all set to static?
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> !apt | theSonGoku
[18:16] <Rory> Guest96712: Type "Displays" in the dash or click on the computer icon in the top right corner and select the second item in the menu.
[18:16] <MACscr> oc_hawk: nope. Its just a regular server right now, nothign special about it. I have 2 other systems that were installed the same way that arent experiencing the issue. i have 4 nics on each server as well if that makes a diff
[18:16] <MACscr> but again, setup the same way
[18:16] <oc_hawk> MACscr, do you have access to the DHCP server admin?  Maybe something else is staking claim to your desired IP address
[18:17] <theSonGoku> well...there is a little story behind that I fastly gonna tell u..as I started my first apprenticeship I went to school and saw a classmate with unbelievable much knowledge of computers, networks and so on...he was sitting in front of his little 13 zoll linux laptop and was typing all in his console..that realy impressed me alot and I wanted to get to that point one day myself..thats why I was a little disappointed..I dont have any problem
[18:17] <theSonGoku> s to work me through hard things...the opposite is the case..I just need a little knowledge I can work from :)
[18:17] <oc_hawk> MACscr, are you positive that the NIC you want the static IP address assigned to is the one that is in control?
[18:17] <MACscr> oc_hawk: DHCP is only setup to give out ip addresses .255 through .254. The static ip is .105
[18:17] <Guest96712> hey guys, how can I change my screen resolution?
[18:17] <MACscr> er, .235 through .255
[18:18] <oc_hawk> MACscr, the static IP address is only assigned to 1 of the 4 NICs.  If one of the other 3 is the "master" it could be requesting an IP address from DHCP
[18:18] <MACscr> oc_hawk: the static ip works fine for a couple hours until it randomly gets the dhcp address. Did you look at that hastebin outlout of the syslog?
[18:19] <Rory> Guest96712: Type "Displays" in the dash
[18:19] <MACscr> the static ip and the dhcp address are both being assigned to the same nic
[18:20] <oc_hawk> MACscr, sorry, i did not see your hastebin link; do see it now
[18:20] <Guest96712> ok thank you, but can you please tell me what dash is because i am a newbie ;D
[18:21] <tozen> Guest96712: Super+F2
[18:21] <tozen> Guest96712: or Win+F2
[18:21] <oc_hawk> Rory, did my `lspci -vvv` give you any more information?
[18:22] <tozen> Guest96712: sorry Alt+F2
[18:22] <Guest96712> ty it works
[18:23] <Rory> Guest96712: I'd recommend having a quick read of this to familiarise yourself https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/ubuntu-help/index.html
[18:23] <kongthap> i just got a power failure haft an hour ago, i can boot into desktop but i can do almost nothing, during booting i saw an error like "/tmp" is not present, when boot into desktop i got error like "read only file system", please guide me what to do?
[18:24] <Rory> oc_hawk: Honestly, no. Could you pastebin "sudo lsusb -v" for me?
[18:24] <dot8> someone who can help me?
[18:24] <tozen> kongthap: choose recovery mode in grub then tipe in mount -o remount,rw /
[18:25] <gryg> Hello, If I need to install os today, should I install ubuntu 13.10 or 13.04?
[18:25] <kongthap> tozen: i must re-boot right? and type your command...
[18:25] <tozen> kongthap: yes
[18:25] <genii> kongthap: Shut down properly, then choose recovery mode as tozen suggests, get to root console and issue fsck
[18:25] <genii> tozen: No remount,rw with fsck :)
[18:25] <kongthap> tozen: when boot using recovery mode i must choose to access shell with root right?
[18:25] <dot8> can you read me when floodbot comment my post?
[18:26] <gryg> I know 13.10 will be released 17.10.2013 but it is in final beta
[18:26] <Guest96712> @Rory when i want to chose the different resolutions i can't change into 1920x...
[18:26] <tozen> gryd i would suggest to install 12.04.3 LTS it's stable with long term support
[18:26] <Guest96712> ok works ;)
[18:26] <tozen> dot8: what the matter?
[18:27] <kongthap> genii: i had tried to use fsck but via the recovery mode, i should execute that command again via shell???
[18:27] <dot8>  I have a problem with my grub at start up. grub freeze after i select a kernel.
[18:27] <tozen> kongthap: yes pal
[18:27] <genii> kongthap: When you ran it from the recovery, did it say it fixed the fs?
[18:27] <dot8> I try boot-repair to fix it, but it does not fix my problem
[18:27] <dot8> I need help to get it running. I have efi system with crypto
[18:27] <oc_hawk> Rory, `sudo lsusb -v`: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206096/
[18:27] <dot8> Here is the log from boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6204717/
[18:28] <kongthap> tozen: all i have to type "mount -o remount, rw /" ????
[18:28] <oo_miguel> how can I blacklist a specific module from the installers shell?
[18:29] <kongthap> genii: i saw a message like do i wanna fix, and i pressed a keyboard to fix it
[18:29] <tozen> kongthap: yes!
[18:29] <sasmit87> Hi guys ..I am very new to ubuntu
[18:29] <jason39828> can someone aim me in the right direcection for installation help? (complete newbie)
[18:29] <Rory> oo_miguel: Looks like that's been truncated. Can you pastebin just "lsusb"
[18:29] <Rory> !install | jason39828
[18:29] <tozen> kongthap: but without space just mount -o remount,rw /
[18:30] <kongthap> tozen: what between " " is exactly right, because i know nothing about the command??? :)
[18:30] <kongthap> tozen: ok ok :)
[18:30] <jason39828> already looked through
[18:30] <oo_miguel> Rory: you mean me?
[18:30] <tozen> jonFriese: help.ubuntu.com
[18:30] <Rory> jason39828: Are you having a problem? How far have you got?
[18:30] <Rory> oo_miguel: Yes I want to see "sudo lsusb"
[18:30] <sasmit87> when I write command ll then one file is displaying * to its right side
[18:30] <kongthap> tozen: i will try that first and will come and ask again
[18:30] <oc_hawk> Rory, are you actually talking to me?
[18:30] <oo_miguel> Rory: there is no lsusb in the installers shell
[18:31] <sasmit87> when I write command ll then one file is displaying * to its right side. what does this means ??
[18:31] <tozen> kongthap: no probs should be ok
[18:31] <oo_miguel> Rory: I am now working on the solution you suggested. Will tell you if it worked
[18:31] <jason39828> all the way to reboot after it says complete(dual with old xp sys)
[18:31] <oo_miguel> Rory: the ndiswrapper thing
[18:31] <bozz> \q
[18:32] <oo_miguel> Rory:  oc_hawk : I thhin Rory got confused with our nicknames ;)
[18:32] <tozen> jonFriese: so, what the problem you've got?
[18:32] <oc_hawk> Rory, non-verbose lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206117/
[18:32] <jason39828> it lets me all the way back to log in them nothing
[18:32] <sasmit87> when I write the command ll then one file is displaying with * to its right side . what does this mean ?? sorry I m very new to ubuntu
[18:33] <tozen> jonFriese: so, trying to login you get drop back to logon screen or what?
[18:34] <tozen> jason39828: so, trying to login you get drop back to logon screen or what?
[18:34] <OerHeks> jason39828, dual boot with old xp, if you have a SATA hdd, your hdd controller in your bios might be set to IDE mode, change it to AHCI ( and after this xp won't  boot anymore) as linux needs AHCI mode.
[18:35] <Rory> oo_miguel: oc_hawk: you both got similar names lol sorry
[18:35] <oc_hawk> Rory, oo_miguel lol
[18:35] <jason39828> so i wil have to choose one or the other?
[18:36] <Rory> oc_hawk: Honestly I can't even see which one is your wifi there. And I need to go eat dinner. If you summarise your problem on one line with both your "lspci" and "lsusb" pastebins hopefully someone else can help
[18:36] <OerHeks> jason39828, as XP does not have SATA controller drivers onboard during install, you need to change it yes
[18:36] <oc_hawk> Rory, thanks for trying; i think we're in the same boat here...
[18:36] <tozen> Rory: 7:36 dinner??? o_O :)
[18:37] <oc_hawk> Rory, my wifi is not in lsusb; it is an internal component (not USB)
[18:37] <xxroltsxx> Hello again, i just de installed Ubuntu 12.04 because wubi did not work like i wanted. So i had put the image on my usb, now i got this additional HDD to put linux on. I did not want Ubuntu to be on my Windows 7 HDD. (i had one laying so why not??) Now it is asking me to select a partition on the HDD to be used.. there is nothing on it and it is formated to Fat32. Now i just selected the max amount to be used. After that it said i had one partition und
[18:37] <xxroltsxx> er 2.5 GB and i had to change it.
[18:37] <kongthap> tozen: i ran "mount -o remount,rw /" i got nothing in response after pressing enter
[18:37] <jason39828> okay, thank you
[18:38] <oo_miguel> Rory: oc_hawk: ;)
[18:38] <tozen> kongthap: shouldn't be
[18:38] <xxroltsxx> Now the only partition under 2.5 was the swap. I was not able to change it's amount.
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> xxroltsxx: you have a need for the fat?
[18:39] <xxroltsxx> No i thought it was essential for Ubuntu
[18:39] <xxroltsxx> I am not well informed :)
[18:39] <kongthap> tozen: i also ran ran fsck from the recovery screen this time i didn't display me any errors, just let me know it finish just press enter...
[18:39] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: I think that also internal components might manifest themselves in lsusb
[18:39] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: similarily many on-board chip (that are not pci cards) are in lspci
[18:39] <xxroltsxx> Should i make it 100% clean?
[18:39] <kongthap> tozen: any command line i can use to get info from the system, so i can tell you more info
[18:39] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, no doubt, but not this one; it appears in lspci
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> xxroltsxx: only on a usb for a live image an ext4 is the partition used on an install.
[18:40] <oc_hawk> the device in question is this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206148/
[18:40] <kongthap> tozen: i don't know what it is, just got message like read only file system, that's all
[18:40] <jason39828> will an older ver. of ubunto possably work with it...all im doing right now is trying to get familer with the system but dont really want to lose my windows yet
[18:40] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: I am struggling with my external usb network interface right now :(
[18:40] <oc_hawk> but ubuntu is not recognizing it as wireless hardware
[18:40] <tozen> kongthap: still?
[18:40] <xxroltsxx> I see, so it would partition everything fully for me if i had nothing on it at all?
[18:40] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: the FIRST step is to recognize the device in lspci
[18:41] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: Can you find it there?
[18:41] <kongthap> tozen: yes still, and most app cannot be launch, still lucky x-chat can be launch
[18:41] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, yep, that was that paste from lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206148/
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> xxroltsxx: yep, it would auto install,make sure it is the right HD.
[18:41] <xxroltsxx> Yea, i was wondering if i had the right one at first hehe.
[18:41] <kongthap> tozen: how to comfirm that /tmp is ok or not??? any command???
[18:41] <xxroltsxx> Thanks i'll try now.
[18:42] <tozen> kongthap: well. let get back so what you've done before? have you installed smth or deleted manually?
[18:42] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: A kernel driver was loaded too already. What does "ip addr show" give you?
[18:42] <kongthap> tozen: i don't know "smth" at all
[18:42] <wizard_A> when i try ssh to a server it giver a permission denied error
[18:42] <kongthap> tozen: i got a power failure...
[18:42] <tekk> sounds silly... but... fresh install of ubuntu server... ssh selected at install time
[18:43] <tekk> but sshd isn't running
[18:43] <tekk> and i've left the building foolishly
[18:43] <tekk> but i have access to other machines on that LAN
[18:43] <tekk> anyway i can get in ?
[18:43] <FloodBot1> tekk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:43] <Rory> tekk: No
[18:43] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, `ip addr show`: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206159/
[18:43] <Rory> wizard_A: Are you typing the correct password?
[18:43] <genii> tekk: Is 22 forwarded to that box?
[18:44] <wizard_A> Rory: i'm not being prompted for the password.
[18:44] <tozen> kongthap: ok have you got livecd/usb?
[18:44] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: So your problem is that its eth0 instaed of wlan0 ?
[18:44] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: or ist eth0 another interface thats working fine?
[18:44] <kongthap> tozen: yes i have
[18:44] <MACscr> oc_hawk: any ideas after looking at that log output?
[18:44] <free_mind> Can someone advise my what the best method is for copying a whole disk to a new one. dd is pretty slow... I've installed one ubuntu disk and need exactly the same install for another system. Current disk is setup with /boot on primary partion, and others are LVM.
[18:44] <dot8> is my question stupid or is it not the right channel to ask?
[18:44] <MKCoin> How can I disable windows fading out when I close them? On 12.04
[18:44] <oo_miguel> dot8: what is your question?
[18:45] <bekks> free_mind: what was your exact dd command?
[18:45] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, well, i had to track down a USB->ETH dongle so I could connect to here for support; the wired dongle isn't really my preferred means of using this tablet-like device ;)
[18:45] <free_mind> bekks: haven't used dd yet, cause is sector for sector --> slow!
[18:45] <oc_hawk> MACscr, Honestly, I don't know what that log was supposed to be showing...
[18:45] <bekks> free_mind: then you did not read about the bs= option.
[18:45] <dot8> oo_miguel: my grub freeze after I selct a kernel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6204717/
[18:46] <bekks> free_mind: dd uses blocks, not sectors.
[18:46] <loss> I am able to ping gateway IP but I cant reach outside of our network. What do?
[18:46] <free_mind> bekks: so you're saying, dd can be pretty fast?
[18:46] <bekks> free_mind: Correct.
[18:46] <tozen> kongthap: pop in then through livecd console tipe in <sudo fdisk -l> you'll see all your disk then try to check them with <sudo fsck -y -c -f /dev/sdXY> XY - your disks numbers
[18:47] <genii> tekk: If you're on a box on the same network segment and know it's ip you can try hopscotch in from there. If it's not responding on port 22 at that point then you know you have to go physically look at it.
[18:47] <free_mind> bekks: hmm... maybe a year ago my dd command wasn't the right one. So the key point to look into is bs?
[18:47] <bekks> free_mind: Setting dd to use a blocksize that the smallest size of the cache sizes of the disks involved usually speeds up dd a lot. And replacing dd with mbuffer allows you to use your RAM as cache for the asynchronous I/O thats happening when reading from one disk and writing to another disk.
[18:47] <oo_miguel> dot8: I would try #grub or similar complemenarely to this one.
[18:47] <oc_hawk> free_mind, is this something you will be doing more often than once?  might i recommend clonezilla;  if just one time, use dd
[18:48] <dot8> oo_miguel: ok
[18:48] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: So your wlan interface does not show up at all...
[18:48] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, you got it
[18:48] <free_mind> oc_hawk: thanks. I know the project, but this is a one timer... :)
[18:48] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: what does dmesg tell you about that
[18:48] <kongthap> tozen: first boot into lived cd, then open terminal and don't have to change to any directory right???
[18:49] <kongthap> tozen: then just type "sudo fidisk -l"
[18:49] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: when you plug in and unplug your "dongle"
[18:49] <tozen> kongthap: no
[18:49] <tozen> kongthap: uuups yes u r right
[18:49] <free_mind> bekks: thank you for explaining. Any pointer for a great howto on this subject?
[18:49] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, the dongle is working...that is how i am talking to you now.  it is the wireless device built into this brand spanking new hardware that is not being recognized by ubuntu
[18:50] <tozen> kongthap: fdisk -l
[18:50] <bekks> free_mind: http://www.maier-komor.de/mbuffer.html
[18:50] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: is this brand new wlan hardware listed in lspci or lsusb?
[18:50] <kongthap> tozen: after fdisk, i just type "sudo fsck -y -c- f /dev/sda5" (sorry i didn't spell check the fdisk thing)
[18:50] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, it is in lspci
[18:51] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: the thing you posted right?
[18:51] <kongthap> tozen: do i need to fsck all partition or just only file system partition?
[18:51] <tozen> kongthap: yes as example sudo fsck -y -c -f /dev/sda1
[18:51] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, yes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206148/
[18:51] <genii> kongthap: All of them except the swap partition or windows partitions
[18:51] <MACscr> oc_hawk: any ideas on what i should do to try to troubleshoot it? I dont get why my /etc/network/interfaces setting is not being respected?
[18:51] <tozen> kongthap: only main partition with a system installed
[18:52] <kongthap> genii: ok
[18:52] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: does dmesg give you any information about what heppens during loading this module?
[18:52] <kongthap> tozen: i will try it and come back again,thanks
[18:52] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk:  dmesg | grep mei_me
[18:52] <airandfingers> when i run "sudo service mongodb start" (ubuntu), the service doesn't actually start, but it works fine when i run the command from /etc/init/mongodb.conf: "sudo mongod -f /etc/mongodb.conf".. what's the difference?
[18:53] <oc_hawk> MACscr, my only suggestion isn't a very good one.  instead of having the client demand a static address, i would have the server assign a static address to that mac address
[18:53] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, nada http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206194/
[18:54] <chaotic_good> amazon not liek reiserFS
[18:55] <chaotic_good> baaastards
[18:55] <MACscr> oc_hawk: i have a static ip assigned http://hastebin.com/hixifohape.vala
[18:55] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: I think that there should be some indication of the module beeing loaded inside dmesg, but I am admittedly dnot an expert on that topic..
[18:56] <Pistos> Hi.  I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside a system that already has Windows and Gentoo on it.  I've gotten to the point of the DVD installer that says "Install Ubuntu alongside them".  I'm prompted to "Allocate drive space by dragging the divider below:"  This is great, except for the part that neither half of the division is labelled.  I have no idea which part will be Ubuntu, and which part free space.
[18:56] <Pistos> Can anyone enlighten me?
[18:56] <eer> Where is the xorg.conf located in Ubuntu?
[18:57] <baggar11> eer: /etc/X11/
[18:58] <bschindler> Hi - is there an "official" to get a newer nvidia driver than the 313 one?
[18:58] <liquidmetal> what's that gymnast movie where he's super unhappy even though he has everything. Then someone comes along to show him how to be happy within.
[18:58] <oc_hawk> MACscr, yeah, but that is on your client side, right?  I am saying that I would move that responsibility to your server that divvies out IP addresses.  when it sees your hardware in question, give it <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:58] <eer> baggar11, not under /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/ anymore?
[18:58] <oc_hawk> MACscr, but you are right, it should be respecting the static ip address
[18:59] <OerHeks> eer standard you do not have a xorg.conf, make one if you needit
[18:59] <oc_hawk> eer, did you try `whereis xorg.conf`?
[19:00] <Pistos> Basically this problem, I guess: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814047&page=2&s=349482b0590b47c55369be3416eda0db
[19:00] <tozen> !offtop liquidmetal
[19:00] <liquidmetal> okay :(
[19:00] <eer> If there isn't an xorg.conf file then where is all the configuration saved?
[19:00] <tozen> liquidmetal: #ubuntu-offtop :)
[19:00] <joeykeys> hey guys - is this the right place to ask about configuring ssl
[19:00] <joeykeys> or would that be in apache
[19:01] <Ari-Yang> eer: what ubuntu version are you on?
[19:01] <liquidmetal> peaceful warrior, btw
[19:01] <MACscr> oc_hawk: i get what your saying, but i find that doing static ip's through the dhcp server to be much riskier and higher chances of problems. Plus i dont get why this 1 server is behaving differently than all the other servers ive setup
[19:01] <GreatBacon> MACscr: when it losses the IP, does another device acquire it
[19:01] <eer> Ari-Yang, 13.04
[19:01] <MACscr> GreatBacon: nope
[19:02] <Ari-Yang> eer: a xorg.conf file isn't needed nowadays... I thinks starting with 12.04 it was taken out
[19:02] <Pistos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/172866/installing-12-04-to-dual-boot-partitions-not-labeled
[19:04] <oc_hawk> MACscr, not sure i agree with you about riskier on server side but in general i hear you, it shouldn't be behaving differently; only thing i can think is that your eth1 is not #1 in the pecking order and eth0, eth2, or eth3 are beating it to the punch when it comes time to requesting an ip address
[19:04] <MACscr> oc_hawk: but the dhcp address is being assigned to eth1
[19:04] <GreatBacon> MACscr: the only other time I've seen stuff like this happen is when the interface or a port on the interface goes down.  Do you Logs show the interface up when losing the iP?
[19:05] <oc_hawk> MACscr, ah, did not realize that; only believed that system was being assigned a new ip; apologies for my confusion; long ways to get here, but "I don't know. Sorry"
[19:06] <MACscr> GreatBacon: what log would show that? What your seeing in the pastebin is exactly what im seeing in the syslog
[19:07] <MKCoin> phew
[19:07] <MACscr> also, notice that its repeating the same message every minute? seems nuts
[19:07] <MACscr> basically every minute: Oct  5 19:16:52 ctrl1 dhclient: DHCPREQUEST of <IP_ADDRESS> on eth1 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67
[19:08] <MACscr> if i restart the network service, it will go back to its static ip address
[19:08] <MACscr> then maybe an hour later, it will start this again
[19:08] <GreatBacon> MACscr: I have seen that a lot, it happens with an IP loop and during a port flap
[19:09] <MACscr> should i try changing out the cable or switch or port something? its an integrated nic
[19:09] <MACscr> er, switch port
[19:09] <GreatBacon> MACscr: yes, id start there
[19:10] <GreatBacon> Cisco switch?
[19:10] <MACscr> brocad
[19:10] <MACscr> brocade
[19:10] <Pistos> Serious problem, yeah: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1084547
[19:10] <GreatBacon> Yeah
[19:13] <GreatBacon> MACscr: At NetApp when we had filers with that same problem, we often found something at the brocade switch (port flap usually) causing it
[19:14] <GreatBacon> MACscr: how many hops between this machine and the gateway?
[19:15] <MACscr> 2
[19:15] <GreatBacon> The other hop another switch?
[19:15] <MACscr> server, switch, gateway
[19:15] <GreatBacon> Plug directly in
[19:15] <GreatBacon> Are if the issue persists after that
[19:16] <GreatBacon> See*
[19:16] <GreatBacon> Sorry,  on tablet
[19:16] <MACscr> i will plug it into another switch port. Its a 48 port switch
[19:17] <GreatBacon> Right,  sorry, if that doesn't work then go directly over
[19:17] <MACscr> even if the port has issues, why in the world would not still respect the static address?
[19:19] <lilred> hey guys, I accidentally bricked my Ubuntu partition
[19:19] <lilred> I don't have a question, just mentioning it
[19:19] <fire__> i am trying from long time, but still getting the same error i.e. you don't have permission to access /ubuntu on this server. i have setup a ubuntu mirror but i can't access it.
[19:20] <swaagie> TJ-: hmm got it working, just purged the shit out of all the gir1.2 libs and other offending packages now reinstalled tweak tool, gnome-shell etc and everything seems to be working properly, still have to restart though  :) fingers crossed
[19:20] <polter> lilred: how did you manage that?
[19:20] <lilred> polter: I attempted merging /usr/bin and /bin manually, but something broke along the way
[19:21] <polter> lilred: yeah, that's risky business, messing around with /bin
[19:21] <theSonGoku> how can I install java so that I can use java application on websites? as it wasnt in the USC I downloaded it by myself but cant figure out how to install it
[19:21] <lilred> "risky" is an understatement
[19:21] <lilred> theSonGoku: what browser are you using?
[19:21] <theSonGoku> Chrome
[19:22] <MACscr> GreatBacon: ah, just looked at the dhcp log on the dhcp server and its definitely showing the host as going down often
[19:22] <GreatBacon> MACscr: told ya,  Port flap
[19:22] <lilred> theSonGoku: this probably isn't the easiest way, but here is what a quick google brought up: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml
[19:23] <lilred> theSonGoku: even better http://askubuntu.com/questions/155852/installing-chrome-java-plugin
[19:23] <GreatBacon> MACscr: start by verifying all physical Connectivity make sure no lose connections
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> theSonGoku, what happened to the it's to easy, huh. ;)
[19:24] <GreatBacon> Then reseat any involved interface card if you can
[19:24] <GreatBacon> Connected by fiber or copper
[19:24] <GreatBacon> ?
[19:25] <MACscr> GreatBacon: its integrated, so cant reseat. Im noticing though that all the flapping happened while i was asleep and the system was idel. I wonder if there could somehow be some sort of power saving mode going on
[19:25] <tessarakt> how do I configure which Framebuffer is used on Ubuntu 13.04?
[19:25] <MACscr> copper
[19:25] <MACscr> idle
[19:25] <MACscr> so as soon as i logged in this morning, it hasnt happened since then
[19:25] <lilred> anyone has experience with merging /usr/bin and /bin? I'd like to know where I should be looking
[19:25] <GreatBacon> MACscr: those copper lines running overhead by florescent lights?
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> lilred:  why do you need to do that?
[19:26] <MACscr> nope
[19:26] <GreatBacon> MACscr: yes,  power saving coff be it to
[19:26] <lilred> Dr_Willis I want to have all my applications mounted on my SSD
[19:27] <GreatBacon> MACscr: can you verify the bios isn't shutting down the cards?
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> lilred:  so put /usr/bin on the ssd?  and use a soft link to point it where its supposed to be?  you dont want to merge the 2 directories
[19:27] <theSonGoku> ok just doing what lilred posted as second possibility because the first one didnt work..even though I dont realy understand what I am doing^^
[19:27] <Ben64> lilred: why not have everything but /home on ssd?
[19:27] <lilred> Ben64: because it's too small
[19:27] <free_mind> bekks: "Setting dd to use a blocksize that the smallest size of the cache sizes of the disks involved" How can I find the optimal cache size of the ssd hd's?
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> lilred:  and whats the size of the ssd?
[19:28] <eer> If I start a new display with startx -- :1 it will be available on control+alt+F8, right?
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> i dident think you wanted to use dd to write to ssd's  (not sure why but ive herd this befor)
[19:28] <bekks> free_mind: check the make and model of your disks using smartctl -a
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> eer:  thats how it normally works yes.
[19:28] <theSonGoku> ok, second one worked :)
[19:29] <eer> But if I run 2 GUIs at the same time, won't the programs running in those GUIs interfere with the programs in the other GUI?
[19:29] <eer> I mean some programs lock files
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> eer:  depends on the program.
[19:29] <eer> What would be an applicatoin to run 2 GUIs?
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> if ran by differnt users. no issues.. ran by the same issue - couldbe.
[19:30] <TJ-> swaagie: Great to hear :)
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> you run whatever winow manager, or desktop you want on the second x session.
[19:30] <eer> Just trying to think of a scenario where it would make sens to start another display via startx -- :1
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> eer:  testing out a 2nd window manager, or desktop on a 2nd monitor. Multi seat setups. running xbmc on a 2nd monitor..
[19:31] <eer> So I could run KDE on F7 and Gnome on F8?
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> eer:  yes - you can run 2 differnt desktops.
[19:31] <eer> How?
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> start the 2n session, tell it to run kde. (or gnome)
[19:31] <eer> How do I start Gnome in F8?
[19:32] <eer> I run KDE in F7
[19:32] <eer> Both are installed, though.
[19:32] <tessarakt> Is nouveaufb available on Ubuntu?
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> eer:  checked askubuntu.com yet? they most likely show the proper wya to do that these days. last i did similer was perhaps 8+ yers ago - i think lightdm can automate it these days
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> !find nouveaufb
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> eer:  startx reads what to run from the .xinitrc or .xsession - but im not sure what command starts kde these days. used to be 'startkde'
[19:33] <Rallias> With upstart, how would I set it to run when a specific volume group is shut down?
[19:34] <eer> ok
[19:34] <eer> thx
[19:36] <free_mind> bekks: Kingston SV300S37A120G -- Can't find any cache value, not even on www.kingston.com/us/ssd/v#sv300s3
[19:36] <joeykeys> hey guys trying to set up https & ssl on a server that hosts several domains
[19:37] <joeykeys> can someone tell me if in my ports.conf file i should do NameVirtualHost myip:443
[19:37] <joeykeys> *:443
[19:37] <tessarakt> args - nouveau was blacklisted in /etc/modprobed.conf/nvidia-current-updates_hybrid.conf ...
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> installing the nvidia driver  would blacklist the noveau modules/driver
[19:39] <bekks> free_mind: it has 256M cache.
[19:39] <free_mind> bekks: Where did you find that .. :)
[19:39] <bekks> free_mind: first google result ;)
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> hard drives got more cache - then what my first pcs had in ram... by a factor of like 1000x ;)
[19:40] <joeykeys> weajesus this room is just status of quits and joins
[19:40] <joeykeys> cant ready anything
[19:40] <free_mind> bekks: I looked at kingston own website and offcource I'm using ddg.gg :)
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> joeykeys:  this is why most people disable the showing of part/join messages in their irc client
[19:41] <joeykeys> using a webclient unfortunately =\
[19:41] <joeykeys> dr_willis: any experience setting up ssql?
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> joeykeys:  the freenode webclient has the feature in its settings
[19:41] <joeykeys> ssl*
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> joeykeys:  no real experience with ssh.
[19:41] <free_mind> bekks: so which value would you advice to set bs? bs=256M ?
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> ssl i mean. ;)
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> free_mind:  any bs size over 8mb of so - is a bit over kill from what ive heard. but at least you are not going real crazy and trying 1GB :)
[19:44] <bekks> free_mind: do you have two identical drives?
[19:44] <free_mind> bekks: yes.
[19:45] <bekks> free_mind: I'd set something like 16M or 32M
[19:45] <free_mind> Dr_Willis: http://serverfault.com/questions/4906/using-dd-for-disk-cloning the first post says 32M works fine (for this guy)
[19:46] <free_mind> bekks: okay, will give it a shot. What speedup can I expect (do you guess)?
[19:46] <bekks> free_mind: thats hard, quite impossible, to guess.
[19:47] <free_mind> bekks: never mind then. Thanks a lot for your input.
[19:48] <free_mind> also to Dr_Willis ... :)
[19:57] <kriskropd> anyone know of some stock watching/info programs for bash? I get the feeling anyone looking for such things just end up curling yahoo or google finance and then building their own interface :/
[19:59] <wadie> I don't have video display neither on vlc nor on movie player. I'm on unity 2d and works fine on 3d.
[20:01] <OerHeks> kriskropd, those bash plugins are called lenses, i find stock watch  & more http://iloveubuntu.net/unity-stock-quotes-lens-07-released-previews-support
[20:02] <chaotic_good> so
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> wadie:  in the vlc settings they have differnt types of 'display rendering' options i recall. could be the default is quirky with your setup
[20:02] <tim-ct> hi all
[20:02] <GreatBacon> Hi tim
[20:02] <chaotic_good> who here uses fastCGI or scgi for web stuff on ubnutu?
[20:02] <kriskropd> OerHeks: I see you've confused bash with unity :)
[20:02] <wadie> Dr_Willis : it's not working on movie player either
[20:02] <wadie> I only hear audo
[20:02] <wadie> audio
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> wadie:  is this for ALL videos? or just the one?
[20:03] <wadie> all videos
[20:03] <|PiP|`> what is the environment variable for temporary folder path?
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> wadie:  run vlc from a terminal,. play a video. look for errors/info messages in the terminal
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> wadie:  and find some nice generic mp4 video to test with. (like a youtube grab)
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> could be a codec/drm issue
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[20:04] <wadie> it's not a codec issue..something related to drivers or unity
[20:04] <tim-ct> i am run 12.04 with 2 nics Everytime i reboot the machine the eth0 and 1 swop round. Any ideas on how to stop me
[20:04] <wadie> because it works on unity 3d
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> wadie:  then explore the video settings ares in vlc.  the perferances->videosettings -> output has a pulldown
[20:05] <GreatBacon> Tim: can you clarify that please?
[20:05] <airandfingers> when i run "sudo service mongodb start" (ubuntu), the service doesn't actually start, but it works fine when i run the command from /etc/init/mongodb.conf: "sudo mongod -f /etc/mongodb.conf".. what's the difference?
[20:06] <OerHeks> kriskropd, oh i see, like linuxtrade > http://linuxtrade.rkkda.com/ (this one is in the repos http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man1/linuxtrade.1.html )
[20:06] <GreatBacon> Airandfingers: the difference is the directory it's run from.  Did you ensure the path was exported?
[20:06] <tim-ct> now eth0 is <IP_ADDRESS> and eth1 is <IP_ADDRESS> after a reboot its eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> and eth1 is <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:06] <sam113101> HELP
[20:06] <sam113101> HELPPPPP
[20:07] <Pici> sam113101: No one can help unless you ask a question.
[20:07] <kriskropd> OerHeks: :o not what i was looking for but I am interested in that find, thank you for sharing :)
[20:07] <sam113101> rhythmbox is broken
[20:07] <sam113101> (rhythmbox:30935): Rhythmbox-CRITICAL **: Timeout was reached
[20:07] <GreatBacon> Tim: are they dynamically or statically assigned?  Are the NICs teamed?
[20:08] <tim-ct> static
[20:08] <sam113101> tim-ct: happened to me once
[20:08] <DeathTone> hey
[20:08] <sam113101> hey
[20:08] <GreatBacon> tim: NIC teaming them or no?
[20:09] <DeathTone> to install ubunto.iso on an old hard drive, i just put the iso on a flash drive, and boot from that?
[20:09] <tim-ct> no
[20:09] <DeathTone> ok
[20:09] <bekks> DeathTone: From the flash drive. And how do you "put ubuntu.iso on a flash drive"?
[20:09] <tim-ct> sam113101: what did u do
[20:09] <DeathTone> wat
[20:10] <DeathTone> ok nvm i think i got it
[20:10] <sam113101> DeathTone: you can't just drop the file on it
[20:10] <sam113101> tim-ct: I had to assign them manually I think
[20:10] <DeathTone> so what do i do
[20:10] <DeathTone> how do i format my flash drive
[20:10] <tim-ct> mine are static
[20:10] <DeathTone> & can i use it as a regular flash drive later?
[20:10] <sam113101> DeathTone: use dd
[20:10] <k1l> DeathTone: you can dd the iso onto that usbstick
[20:10] <k1l> DeathTone: or use the usb-creator
[20:11] <sam113101> DeathTone: no, you'll have to remove the iso from it
[20:11] <sam113101> or you could partition it I guess
[20:11] <altunin> Тут че? Все не Русские?
[20:11] <tim-ct> sam113101: how about loading mac address
[20:11] <sam113101> !ru
[20:11] <kasad> Can you recommend which version/flavor ubuntu would be sutiable for DELL Latitude 2100 (netbook)
[20:12] <xsi> How to insert a dot into a file every after every n-th character? (every 3500 char)
[20:12] <kasad> *is suitable
[20:12] <GreatBacon> xsi: out of scope of this channel,  but use regex
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> xsi  ask in #bash
[20:13] <ochawkeye_> DeathTone, might I suggest checking out http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[20:13] <xsi> greatbacon regex?
[20:13] <ochawkeye_> DeathTone, from a windows machine I have not found an easier way of making a bootable USB live "CD"
[20:14] <GreatBacon> xsi, in #bash they may help you put together a script with regex
[20:14] <kasad> anyone can recommend which version of ubuntu would run reasonably fast on DELL Latitude 2100
[20:14] <kasad> (netbook)
[20:15] <Calinou> xubuntu 13.04
[20:15] <Calinou> lubuntu 13.04 if you want even lighter
[20:15] <kasad> thanks
[20:15] <vlt> xsi: with "sed" maybe, or "dd" and "echo"
[20:15] <Calinou> xubuntu is more featureful though :p
[20:15] <kasad> it's needed for some surfing, text proccessing and thats about it
[20:15] <kasad> maybe listen to some music/watch a video
[20:16] <kasad> no need for other software
[20:16] <kasad> anyway, thanks Calinou
[20:16] <Calinou> no problem
[20:16] <kasad> <3
[20:20] <free_mind> bekks: I did put 'time' in front of my dd command: 497.032 s (8.5 minutes) / 242 MB/s. Pretty fast I think. :-)
[20:21] <free_mind> bs=32M
[20:22] <iROCKnROLLA> Any suggestions for an ideal desktop hardware manufacture to be used for an Ubuntu only call-center setup?
[20:23] <wylde> !hardware | iROCKnROLLA
[20:24] <genii> iROCKnROLLA: Probably something from the list at http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[20:24] <d1g1ta1__>  Are the problems with drives > 2TB limited to Windows and MBR [assuming new hardware that supports EFI/UEFI] or are there cases where Linux may have problems with full-drive single partitions on 3TB+ drives?
[20:25] <ochawkeye_> iROCKnROLLA, I can't imagine it's a serious question, but I'll say https://www.system76.com/
[20:26] <k1l> iROCKnROLLA: talk to canonical for specific support, if it comes to business stuff
[20:29] <GreatBacon> Digital: are you doing hardware raid or software raid
[20:29] <iROCKnROLLA> will do, thx
[20:31] <GreatBacon> Digital: to answer your question, yes the limitation goes away when you use GPT instead of MBR
[20:31] <I2chelp> Hi guys, I've purchased a 2 digit 7 segment display which runs off i2c only requiring two pin connections..., however, no idea how to get it to run. Lots of googling and nothing!! Any help?
[20:31] <GreatBacon> GRUB2 addresses this
[20:33] <I2chelp> Anyone know of any links to similar device I can modificy
[20:34] <ni395442> hello
[20:34] <GreatBacon> Hi
[20:36] <novice_metapod> how do I check my version of unity? what's the syntax?
[20:37] <genii> novice_metapod: unity --version
[20:38] <novice_metapod> genii, thanks
[20:39] <Austin> hello
[20:39] <GreatBacon> Heya
[20:39] <Austin> dose anybody here know how to install ubuntu 13.04 onto a flash drive from a flash drive
[20:40] <Austin> ik its confusing
[20:40] <altunin> есть русские?
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[20:41] <genii> !ru | altunin
[20:42] <Austin> !install
[20:45] <kingnick42> trying to install software, the repos are god awfully slow
[20:45] <kingnick42> any ideas why?
[20:46] <kingnick42> I've tried the main server, the marshall islands one, and the nz ones
[20:47] <GreatBacon> Kingnick: when you traceroute to it where do you see the latency,  inside or outside your network
[20:47] <kingnick42> GreatBacon, how does one traceroute?
[20:48] <GreatBacon> Kingnick: traceroute [options] host
[20:49] <max_xam> I broke my Ubuntu again
[20:49] <fishcooker1> how to change timezone from cli?
[20:49] <max_xam> loaded nvidia drivers , now it only goes in to the command prompt
[20:49] <kingnick42> GreatBacon, I'd need to install treaceroute to find that out
[20:50] <kingnick42> and right now, repos are too slow really to install anything
[20:50] <kingnick42> as an example, I ran a sudo apt-get update
[20:50] <kingnick42> its still updating. Has been for the last 10 mins
[20:51] <kingnick42> while steam is installing at a nice 400-600kbs
[20:51] <max_xam> how do i connect to the internet on the commandline with a wireless modem?
[20:51] <max_xam> ifconfig wlan0 up?
[20:51] <GreatBacon> Kingnick: that isn't normal,  did you check with your ISP for known issues affecting users in your area?
[20:52] <kingnick42> GreatBacon, no internet issues around. Its just me when I try to contact the Ubuntu repos in some way
[20:52] <fishcooker1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206690/
[20:52] <kingnick42> I'll try another set of repos after this, but all the ones I've tried so far have had the same problem
[20:53] <fishcooker1> is there any alternatif rather than reinstall it?
[20:53] <max_xam> *reaches for windows disc
[20:54] <kingnick42> GreatBacon, its just finished the sudo apt-get update. Took  19mins 48secs
[20:54] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206690/
[20:54] <fishcooker> is there any alternatif rather than reinstall it?
[20:57] <GreatBacon> Kingnick: The good news is Ubuntu isn't causing the latency.    We don't know what release you are on, what command you ran, or what else the output said.  My WAG would be you need to do an fsck.
[20:58] <mn3na3a> can anyone tell me how to change the default file manager for ubuntu 12.04?
[20:58] <kingnick42> GreatBacon, I'm on a home connection, so personal
[20:58] <kingnick42> connected via ethernet (as I know Ubuntu is a little didgy with this wireless card)
[21:00] <fishcooker> sorry jhutchins: revised one http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206729/
[21:02] <kingnick42> GreatBacon, looks like whatever was causing it has stopped? Same repo, same command, only took 3mins
[21:02] <kingnick42> so hopefully it is sorted now
[21:03] <Caelum> I posted a comment on why the synctex plugin is missing from gedit-plugins on the bug page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit-plugins/+bug/1165742?comments=all
[21:04] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206738/ the latest output
[21:04] <Caelum> wow, your system is really f*d
[21:05] <fishcooker> what makes that happen Caelum
[21:05] <Caelum> did you delete any system directories?
[21:07] <jhutchins> fishcooker: I still think you need to do shutdown -Fr now and check the disk, but first make sure there is enough free space on it.  It looks like a) debconf may be corrupt, and b) some part of your filesystem is missing.
[21:09] <Caelum> could someone please change the status of that bug to something other than 'fix released' because it's not fixed yet
[21:09] <fuesiufe> AMD HD 7700, AMD Catalyst Center need administrative rights to set someting, Shortcut "AMD Catalyst Control Center (Administrative)" prompts for root password, no matter what i type, root or user password, i just seems to go away and that's it
[21:09] <fuesiufe> *it just
[21:13] <fishcooker> yes  i've missing this file /var/lib/dpkg/available this is what i get from the last apt-get installing command http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206766/
[21:13] <iverson0881> Hi, i'm using upstart 1.5 on ubuntu 12.04lts, and i am unable to set file descriptors beyond 4096, which i beleive is set in /etc/dbus-1/session.conf
[21:14] <iverson0881> i tried creating a session-local.conf file with an increased maximum number, however I'm unable to do get it to be overriden for user jobs
[21:14] <iverson0881> for example: <limit name="max_message_unix_fds">32768</limit>
[21:15] <fishcooker> yes Caelum it this bug fixed but https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/70504 but i dont have the file anymore http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206770/
[21:16] <monst> anyone able to look at a stacktrace of a kernel panic and help me diagnose it?
[21:17] <Caelum> fishcooker: did you delete available-old too?
[21:18] <Caelum> oh yeah
[21:18] <anon505345> hey does anyone know how to stop ubuntu from trying to automatically adjust the brightness on a laptop? There's a light sensor and ubuntu is trying to use it and it's annoying
[21:19] <Caelum> fishcooker: why don't you backup your files and reinstall
[21:19] <Caelum> fishcooker: that will probably be the easiest for you
[21:20] <ochawkeye_> trying with a new batch of helpers :)  i have a sony vaio duo 13 with a BCM43241.  device is detected by 'lspci' but not as a network device by 'lshw' http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206781/ (device detected is a USB->Ens?TH adapter I have plugged in). Any suggestio
[21:20] <monst> @anon505345 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=958623&p=6064038#post6064038
[21:20] <Caelum> ochawkeye_: broadcom? some of those need special binary drivers
[21:21] <Caelum> monst: there's a #kernelnewbies channel somewhere (not this network) they should be able to help
[21:22] <ochawkeye_> Caelum, any arrows to point in the direction of said binary drivers?
[21:22] <monst> hmm
[21:22] <monst> irc.oftc.net
[21:22] <Caelum> monst: ah it's #kernelnewbies on oftc
[21:22] <monst> =)
[21:23] <monst> Caelum: thans
[21:23] <monst> thanks
[21:25] <wting_> I restarted and now Ubuntu box won't resolve DNS. All other devices on the same network are working fine.
[21:25] <Caelum> ochawkeye_: says you may need firmware here: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211
[21:26] <wting_> I can visit a web sites just fine via IP (e.g. google: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/)
[21:32] <calimero_82> hello guys, someone does use wine or playonlinux?
[21:33] <fishcooker> yes my system fu*.. i've seen the command #rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/available Caelum jhutchins
[21:34] <fishcooker> that the bad news my partner did that last night
[21:34] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[21:37] <OerHeks> fishcooker sudo dpkg --clear-avail && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:41] <yans> Hello people
[21:42] <schnitzl> hi. what is a nice way to autorun scripts on a server. do i have to use rc.local ?
[21:42] <repudiate> schnitzl: I'm not sure.
[21:42] <schnitzl> repudiate,  how can i change that?
[21:42] <jrib> !startup |  schnitzl
[21:43] <schnitzl> jrib, ...server. no gnome.
[21:43] <jrib> schnitzl: /msg ubottu !boot
[21:43] <genii> jrib: Server :)
[21:43] <jrib> schnitzl: the "right" way is to create an upstart script if it's a service
[21:44] <schnitzl> does this work just as init.d jrib ?
[21:44] <jrib> schnitzl: no
[21:44] <schnitzl> aw :(
[21:45] <jrib> schnitzl: well what exactly did you mean? Upstart is different than sysv but upstart still calls the sysv-style scripts you place in init.d if you choose to put one there
[21:45] <hombreew> hi
[21:46] <schnitzl> jrib,  okay...let me ask different: where is the disadvantage to use rc.local
[21:46] <schnitzl> jrib, i want to execute a simple .sh script via rc.local. but it seems not to work. and i have no idea why.
[21:47] <jrib> schnitzl: if it's a service, then you can't manipulate it (start, stop, status, restart etc.) if you just put it in rc.local
[21:48] <jrib> schnitzl: but give more details... what script? what does it look like? what does rc.local look like?
[21:48] <schnitzl> no its no server. its droopy, you know, that very tiny and easy uplaod http server.
[21:48] <hombreew> I have an old laptop running ubuntu hooked up like a media pc, its nice to vnc to it to control it. is there a way to start an xsession on the actual computer from a remote ssh shell? its not nice to have to open the lid and login with the actual laptop then start x11vnc (* remember, actual tv output desired, only vnc not enough, seems like I need REAL xsession)
[21:48] <jrib> "its no server" "server" *confused*
[21:49] <schnitzl> lol sorrry jrib !! :D   no service**
[21:49] <schnitzl> its no service. its just a small sh script. look i will explain the whole story for you. give me a sec.
[21:49] <jrib> schnitzl: still sounds like a service :)
[21:49] <ThreeFourThree> Hey guys, any idea where I can get help on installing Ubuntu? I'm getting a Syslinux 4.04 message on boot and it hangs up there, and I've tried a few different versions; none have worked.
[21:50] <enthdegree> hello everyone. My system does not boot to linux after a successful installation. I think it is due to it having been installed configured as GPT when it's in an MBR/BIOS environment
[21:50] <schnitzl> jrib, i want to start a game server via rc.local. after that a droopy and then folderwatch. it can move files after they are uplaoded into a folder, the idea is, that ppl can push maps to the server without bugging me, and the folderwatcher moves the files to the game folder.
[21:50] <enthdegree> here is my partition setup: http://hastebin.com/nenajumoto.hs
[21:50] <ThreeFourThree> Trying to boot off a USB, if that helps
[21:51] <enthdegree> ThreeFourThree: what
[21:51] <GreatBacon> enthdegree: do you have an error associated with this issue?
[21:51] <enthdegree> No, the screen just goes black
[21:51] <ThreeFourThree> enthdegree: Been trying to install Ubuntu off a USB key, but I'm getting a SYSLINUX 4.04 message each time
[21:52] <schnitzl> jrib, this is my rc local http://pastebin.com/NyqtF4Dj
[21:52] <schnitzl> getting an idea?
[21:52] <wylde> schnitzl: doesn't sound like something you want running as root. Also, will the gameserver not need a reload/restart after the addition of a map?
[21:52] <schnitzl> yea. thats what folderwatch can do.
[21:53] <schnitzl> this is folderwatch http://pastebin.com/nYUWsBG2
[21:53] <jrib> schnitzl: the "right" way is to set this up in upstart.  But if you want to troubleshoot, then it's probably a PATH issues.  Check logs and consider redirecting stdout and stderr to some file
[21:54] <schnitzl> upstart..never worked with that....always sounded weird.
[21:54] <HyperCrush> Hey all. I know this is off topic but is there a channel for Electrical engineering? I have questions about PMOS and NMOS
[21:54] <k1l> !alis | HyperCrush
[21:54] <schnitzl> so you suggest to create a new user for that?
[21:55] <HyperCrush> thanks
[21:55] <Sazpaimon> I'm trying to configure my machine to connect to multiple openvpn servers at and route requests to them as a round robin. How can I accomplish this?
[21:55] <mapper99> Quick question:  What are the major differences between Ubuntu Server and Ubuntu Desktop?
[21:57] <hawk_> Hello, I know Python and I want to contribute to ubuntu developer community but I dont know from where I should start . Please help
[22:00] <jrib> !contribute | hawk_
[22:02] <hawk_> ubottu : Thanks Sir
[22:05] <jmgk> hello
[22:06] <Iwaneez> hi guys. I have an external monitor and ubuntu 13.04 installed with latest legacy driver for my ati 4570 graphic card. I used VGA connection but sometimes the monitor was flashy and wheezy(only on ubuntu, on windows 7 it was ok). So i switched to HDMI. And my problem: As I used VGA there were about 5pixels from notebook screen overlaping into my monitor on the left. Luckily there was a customization in amdccle driver and i moved the screen to the left and
[22:17] <Darkmg> anyone in here help with OOP with UML, or know what channel I should be in?
[22:17] <thewhat> hello ubunt world
[22:17] <thewhat> *ubuntu
[22:18] <GreatBacon> hi thewhat
[22:19] <thewhat> well I wanna install ubuntu on hard drive,I wanna ask if it is stable? did u had to reinstall it after?
[22:20] <GreatBacon> thewhat: The versions supported in this channel are stable and mature.
[22:20] <thewhat> I like it and I wanna use it on my hard drive GreatBacon
[22:21] <thewhat> I have tried liveUSB version
[22:21] <GreatBacon> thewhat: If you want to start installing, I'll be here to help if you run into a problem.
[22:21] <thewhat> wow thank you very much for your support
[22:21] <GreatBacon> thewhat: It's no problem at all
[22:23] <dwarder> i run wubi from iso, why it downloads anything?
[22:23] <dwarder> is it supposed to do so?
[22:29] <Mixxit> can anyone help me fix mysql-server
[22:29] <Mixxit> start mysql returns nothing
[22:29] <Mixxit> service mysql start also gives me nothing
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> whats the exact command you are using?
[22:30] <Mixxit> that
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> no sudo?
[22:30] <Mixxit> im already root
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> try service mysqlwhtever status
[22:31] <Mixxit> i tried to look at the init.d script but i have no clue what this upstart stuff is
[22:31] <Mixxit> nothing from that command
[22:31] <GreatBacon> Missit: can you ensure your path to mysqld is exported
[22:31] <GreatBacon> Mixxit*
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> !upstart
[22:32] <Mixxit> declare -x PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games"
[22:32] <Mixxit> i have that when i type export
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> status option should return somthing
[22:32] <Mixxit> just goes to next line dr_willis
[22:32] <Rory> Mixxit: What is the output of "sudo service mysql-server status"
[22:32] <Mixxit> i can type mysqld and it will start though, albeit with no output
[22:32] <Rory> Mixxit: How did you install it?
[22:32] <Mixxit> mysql-server: unrecognized service
[22:32] <Mixxit> apt-get install mysql-server is how i installed it
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> how did you 'become root' also?
[22:32] <Mixxit> i did sudo su