[05:44] <foodcoman> afmanuk: Im not so good at this but, GLIBC_2.0 I think is really old, what its asking for.
[05:44] <vitriol> anybody know what package i'd get the python gtk.glade module from?
[05:45] <foodcoman> afmanuk: I think its at 3.x and 4.x nowdays.
[05:46] <Jucato> vitriol: you could try typing "apt:/" in Konqueror, and in the File search field, type in glade
[05:46] <afmanuk> So I update?
[05:46] <vitriol> ok Jucato
[05:47] <foodcoman> afmanuk: I just read a GLIBC_2.0 reference from 1999
[05:47] <coreymon77> !he
[05:47] <ubotu>
[05:47] <foodcoman> Jucato: Thats cool "apt:/"  Didnt know that one.
[05:47] <coreymon77> guys
[05:47] <Jucato> foodcoman: yeah it's pretty nice. and so it man:/
[05:47] <vge> ok, im back, somebody can help me to get my other computer NIC to work?
[05:47] <coreymon77> i know of a channel we can give ubotu for hebrew
[05:48] <Black_Monkey> hi, can someone help me out here? I tried to boot from a kubuntu dvd - it got as far as "mounting filesystem" before it crashed. Now I can't even boot Fedora, which I have installed - it stops as "Booting the kernel."
[05:48] <coreymon77> guys
[05:48] <foodcoman> Jucato: I didnt need another reason to appreciate Kubuntu, but hey, I will take it.  =)
[05:48] <Jucato> lol
[05:49] <vge> what is the process to determine that my NIC work and how to get it working?
[05:49] <m4v3rick_> vge: tell me exactly does your nic work , but wiz problems..or it doesn't work at all??
[05:50] <m4v3rick_> vge: i mean, does ur system recognize it?
[05:50] <vge> m4v3rick_: xubuntu finds the NIC, but ping dont go trough
[05:50] <m4v3rick_> okay
[05:50] <m4v3rick_> vge: do you have knemo insalled
[05:50] <coreymon77> guys
[05:51] <vge> m4v3rick_: what's that?
[05:51] <coreymon77> we need to give ubotu a channel for hebrew
[05:51] <coreymon77> and there is one
[05:51] <m4v3rick_> vge: package used to easily configure your network interfaces...
[05:51] <m4v3rick_> and monitoring them
[05:51] <coreymon77> the channel is #ubuntu-il
[05:51] <coreymon77> and ubotu isnt giving it
[05:52] <trappist> !il
[05:52] <ubotu>
[05:52] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[05:52] <coreymon77> !il
[05:52] <vge> m4v3rick_: is in installed by default? is it in the cd repos?
[05:52] <trappist> I can only assume that's hebrew.  my terminal has no idea.
[05:52] <coreymon77> !he
[05:52] <ubotu>
[05:52] <m4v3rick_> vge: no, you have to apt-get it
[05:53] <m4v3rick_> vge: sudo apt-get install knemo
[05:53] <vge> paggage not found
[05:53] <Jucato> !knemo | vge
[05:53] <ubotu> knemo: network interfaces monitor for KDEs systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-4 (dapper), package size 173 kB, installed size 804 kB
[05:53] <m4v3rick_> cge: yeah u need to enable universe / multiverse repos.
[05:54] <m4v3rick_> vge: yeah u need to enable universe / multiverse repos.
[05:54] <vge> is there universe/multiverse in cd repos also?
[05:54] <m4v3rick_> i'm talking about getting them from the online repos
[05:54] <vge> hmm, ill try that
[05:55] <m4v3rick_> vge: okay
[05:56] <vge> m4v3rick_: hmm, works on xubuntu too?
[05:56] <vge> just checking
[05:56] <Zerb_Riss> yello
[05:56] <m4v3rick_> vge: it works on all
[05:56] <m4v3rick_> vge: or at least it shud :D
[05:57] <Zerb_Riss> has anyone had KDE 3.5.5 transparency support working?
[05:58] <arriesp> xao gente me voy a acer capoeira
[05:58] <Zerb_Riss> !espanol
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about espanol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <Zerb_Riss> !spanish
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <m4v3rick_> zerb_riss: can you elaborate?
[05:59] <Zerb_Riss> m4v3rick_: you can turn on transparency in the Window Behaviour configuration
[05:59] <coreymon77> !he
[05:59] <ubotu>
[05:59] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[05:59] <Zerb_Riss> when I enable it it doesn't do anything
[05:59] <Zerb_Riss> maybe I need a better/different video card, though
[06:00] <m4v3rick_> zerb_riss: same thing here
[06:00] <greenonion7> can't save after completing a mission on Quake 3. Can anyone help?
[06:00] <Zerb_Riss> hmm
[06:00] <Zerb_Riss> what card do you have?
[06:00] <ricanelite> Hello! Good Morning
[06:01] <ricanelite> Does anyone here use Firefox 1.5?
[06:01] <m4v3rick_> intel
[06:01] <Black_Monkey> I do.
[06:01] <m4v3rick_> i do
[06:01] <Zerb_Riss> m4v3rick_: same, maybe it's the awful i810 driver
[06:01] <greenonion7> I do
[06:01] <Zerb_Riss> I use Firefox 2.0
[06:01] <ricanelite> Okay do you know when you open up Firefox and you see the File, Edit, View, I guess its called the Menu section?
[06:02] <foodcoman> Zerb_Riss: Now your making fun of my terrible Thinkpad Video!   =D
[06:02] <m4v3rick_> yeah i hate i810 am not expert at drivers but i jsut feel that it doesn't support all the capabilitis
[06:02] <Zerb_Riss> yah
[06:02] <Zerb_Riss> although the Intel cards are pretty terrible anyways
[06:02] <Black_Monkey> ricanelite - yes...
[06:02] <Zerb_Riss> m4v3rick_: did you ever try the Google Earth 4 Linux Beta
[06:02] <Zerb_Riss> ?
[06:02] <ricanelite> Okay, well now my Fonts is hudge
[06:02] <Zerb_Riss> the new version actually works really good
[06:02] <m4v3rick_> nope...
[06:02] <greenonion7> can't save after completing a mission on Quake 3. Can anyone help?
[06:02] <ricanelite> I tried heading to the Fonts section in System Settings and nothing
[06:02] <Zerb_Riss> nice and smooth, before it was choppy and buggy
[06:03] <Black_Monkey> ricanelite - ah, yeah, you have to edit the gnome fonts, and firefox is a gnome application, not kde
[06:03] <m4v3rick_> zerb_riss: really!! that sounds cool...
[06:03] <Black_Monkey> I think. >_>
[06:03] <m4v3rick_> zerb_riss: i think am gonna give it a try
[06:03] <ricanelite> well I'm using Kubuntu Desktop I guess
[06:03] <Zerb_Riss> m4v3rick_: yah :) another excuse for meto use Kubuntu exclusively at work :)
[06:03] <Zerb_Riss> m4v3rick_: now I just need IE74Linux
[06:03] <ricanelite> so please forgive I'm very new to this Operating System but willing to learn
[06:03] <m4v3rick_> zerb_riss: loool
[06:04] <Zerb_Riss> :)
[06:04] <m4v3rick_> zerb_riss: if only the IEtab plugin works for firefox under linux
[06:04] <Zerb_Riss> m4v3rick_: yah no joke hehe :)
[06:04] <Zerb_Riss> m4v3rick_: there is IEs4Linux
[06:04] <m4v3rick_> i guess it works if used wine to run firefox windows version
[06:04] <n8k99> ricanelite: SystemSettings > Appearance > GTK icons & Fonts to change the default fonts for firefox
[06:04] <Zerb_Riss> but that's only IE 5.5 and 6.0
[06:05] <ricanelite> So i select use my KDE fonts in GTK Applications?
[06:05] <m4v3rick_> zerb_riss: bummer...
[06:05] <foodcoman> m4v3rick_: i810 drivers seem to have trouble with the OpenGL screensavers, in my laptops case anyway.
[06:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> guys, if i have an CD iso bootable image, can i add some other stuffs in the iso ( to be later writed to a DVD ) and obtain a DVD bootable iso? in the case i can, what do i have to use?
[06:05] <ricanelite> and then do I have to restart my computer?
[06:05] <Zerb_Riss> foodcoman: they often do, but Google Earth seems to have resolved many of the OpenGL problems it had with the i810 driver
[06:05] <m4v3rick_> foodcoman: the funny thing i that the pendulum screensaver works but the others don't though it's supposed to be an openGL thing
[06:06] <n8k99> ricanelite: no you select your kde fonts in SystemSettings>Appearance> FOnts
[06:06] <Zerb_Riss> lol
[06:06] <vge> m4v3rick_: where do i find the knemo paggage?
[06:06] <n8k99> ricanelite: no you don't need to restart the computer, you may need to restart the applications
[06:06] <Jucato> !knemo | vge
[06:06] <ubotu> knemo: network interfaces monitor for KDEs systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-4 (dapper), package size 173 kB, installed size 804 kB
[06:06] <n8k99> ricanelite: at most you will need to restart the X server
[06:07] <ricanelite> Ahh Got it!!!
[06:07] <Zerb_Riss> is anyone using KSmoothDock?
[06:07] <vge> Jucato: i dont have internet on that machine, so where can i download the paggage?
[06:07] <greenonion7> can't save after completing a mission on Quake 3. Can anyone help?
[06:07] <vge> from repos sure, but then. where are the paggages downloaded
[06:07] <Jucato> vge: packages.ubuntu.com but you need to know the dependencies that it needs
[06:07] <m4v3rick_> ?vge: can't u enable you universe repos
[06:08] <m4v3rick_> vge: can't u enable you universe repos
[06:08] <ricanelite> Thank you!
[06:08] <n8k99> ricanelite:  you are welcome
[06:08] <ricanelite> When is the new update coming out for ubuntu?
[06:08] <n8k99> !edgy
[06:08] <Jucato> m4v3rick_: he said he doesn't have an internet connection on that machine
[06:08] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:08] <vge> m4v3rick_: sure, but the NIC dont work, is the paggage on the cd?
[06:08] <n8k99> !schedule
[06:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:08] <m4v3rick_> oooh i see i didn't notice
[06:08] <m4v3rick_> sorry
[06:08] <Jucato> :)
[06:08] <ricanelite> Thank you!
[06:08] <m4v3rick_> vge: nope, as ubotu said it's optional...
[06:09] <vge> point is, i bet there is a console way to do it, but i just donno how to make it work
[06:09] <n8k99> no problem
[06:09] <m4v3rick_> yes there is
[06:09] <m4v3rick_> but are u willing??? :D
[06:09] <ricanelite> Also before I go, Does anyone have any experience with MOL?
[06:09] <n8k99> ricanelite: what about it
[06:09] <vge> m4v3rick_: well, i dont fraid the console if thats what your suggesting
[06:10] <n8k99> ricanelite: which OS X do you have?
[06:10] <ricanelite> 10.4
[06:10] <m4v3rick_> vge: well, we first have to figure out what is the problem...
[06:10] <ricanelite> the lastest one
[06:10] <ricanelite> but it is not that though
[06:10] <ricanelite> I cannot get it running
[06:10] <m4v3rick_> vge: so try to ping urself and see if u can even loopback to urself...
[06:10] <n8k99> how do you mean?
[06:10] <ricanelite> and I mean that I'm having a hard time getting it displayed
[06:10] <vge> m4v3rick_: that i can do
[06:11] <n8k99> ricanelite:how did you set it up? via tha wiki?
[06:11] <vge> m4v3rick_: but anything else dont go trough
[06:11] <ricanelite> because when i type in the command to run MOL, my monitor goes black and I have to hit CTRL+ALT+F7 to get back to my Desktop
[06:11] <m4v3rick_> vge: u mean it does ping?
[06:11] <ricanelite> I dont know to be honest with you because I just installed it but cannot get anything displayed
[06:11] <vge> m4v3rick_: it pings the own ip sure
[06:11] <n8k99> ricanelite: that's because it sets up a new dep on C+A+f8
[06:11] <n8k99> erm, desktop
[06:12] <ricanelite> they have told me I could edit the display file i think and add in my screen resolution
[06:12] <n8k99> yes you have to do that
[06:12] <n8k99> otherwise it will not display properly
[06:12] <m4v3rick_> can u ping the router...
[06:12] <ricanelite> okay thats my problem, I have no idea how to
[06:12] <m4v3rick_> ?
[06:12] <ricanelite> I'm new to all of this
[06:12] <m4v3rick_> vge: can u ping the rouer?
[06:12] <n8k99> !mol
[06:12] <ubotu> mol is MacOnLinux. For a complete howto, visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacOnLinuxHowto
[06:13] <n8k99> that was mostly for me ;)
[06:13] <vge> no, nor it gives me ip with dhcp, nor i can ping other computer if i directly connect two computers with crossover cable
[06:13] <m4v3rick_> okay try this
[06:14] <m4v3rick_> vge: type this in command line: sudo ifdown eth0
[06:14] <n8k99> ricanelite: how comfortable are you with the command line?
[06:14] <vge> m4v3rick_: and?
[06:14] <bertugolu> hello....i updated from ubuntu dapper to kubuntu edgy....and when i configure the X, it says that it is broken or something, what can i do
[06:14] <m4v3rick_> vge: this should turn off the connection (if it exists :D )
[06:14] <m4v3rick_> vge: sudo ifup eth0
[06:14] <vge> i have done that n+1 times now :/
[06:14] <vge> no effect
[06:14] <m4v3rick_> and see if it graps ip addres and all the configurations from the router
[06:15] <m4v3rick_> vge: i mean see wht's the response...
[06:15] <ricanelite> well i could follow the steps with no problem
[06:15] <m4v3rick_> vge: :S
[06:15] <ricanelite> I just like to ask questions well im doing it because I want to learn
[06:15] <m4v3rick_> vge: i know it sounds frustrating, but are u sure of ur cable?
[06:15] <ricanelite> thats why I want to use Linux because I want to learn more about the Operating System
[06:16] <vge> m4v3rick_: it sends request for dhcp ip, but cant get
[06:16] <m4v3rick_> ooh yes i forgot
[06:16] <n8k99> ricanelite: naturally! ^_^
[06:16] <m4v3rick_> vge: weired
[06:16] <vge> m4v3rick_: but my laptop under dhcp works fine :/
[06:16] <bertugolu> SOMEONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:17] <n8k99> bertugolu: what seems to be the problem?
[06:17] <bertugolu> emm
[06:17] <bertugolu> i want to install the ati drivers...but i want to see if the drivers are in the xorg
[06:17] <bertugolu> when i try to configure the X from konsole...it says that it is brokem
[06:17] <vge> m4v3rick_: im sure about the cable and nic's (have tried 2 now) both work under windows atleast
[06:18] <bertugolu> what can i do
[06:18] <bertugolu> ??
[06:18] <n8k99> hmmm...
[06:18] <bertugolu> i need to reinstall the X or something.. dunno
[06:19] <m4v3rick_> vge: am clueless
[06:19] <bertugolu> Oh! btw, when i downloaded the updates, the updater crashed @ 50-60%
[06:19] <bertugolu> the adept
[06:19] <foodcoman> n8k99: would this work from booting from cd to shell?  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:19] <bertugolu> tried that
[06:19] <bertugolu> it says broken or something
[06:20] <bertugolu> i think i just reinstall kubuntu...
[06:20] <n8k99> foodcoman: would what work?
[06:20] <macoxp> hey guys what is the ubuntu ipconfig command?
[06:20] <n8k99> sorry_ got distracted my 18monthold just woke up
[06:20] <vge> ifconfig
[06:20] <bertugolu> ifcongif
[06:20] <TheGateKeeper> ifconfif
[06:20] <foodcoman> bertugolu: Did under Dapper when they broke desktop the last KDE upgrade
[06:20] <bertugolu> ifconfig
[06:21] <foodcoman> n8k99: Sorry that last was for you.
[06:21] <bertugolu> i reconfigured the x normally  @ dapper
[06:21] <TheGateKeeper> yep I typoed too :-(
[06:21] <bertugolu> but i had ubuntu
[06:21] <Ichi> hi
[06:21] <bertugolu> not kubunti
[06:21] <foodcoman> bertugolu: Hope Kubuntu reinstall fixed it.
[06:21] <m4v3rick_> !ipconfig
[06:21] <n8k99> foodcoman: that would probaly work
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <bertugolu> i just try
[06:21] <bertugolu> !ifconfig
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <m4v3rick_> loool...ipconfog:D
[06:21] <bertugolu> lol ubotu is stupid :P
[06:22] <foodcoman> m4v3rick_: shame,  windows commands to ubotu.
[06:22] <foodcoman> =)
[06:22] <bertugolu> willl try to reanstll it
[06:22] <bertugolu> ubotu *bang*
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bang* - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <bertugolu> lofl
[06:22] <BonBonTheJon> macoxp: hey, how are things going
[06:23] <norro> hey guys
[06:24] <norro> does anyone of you guys know, if there is a repository out there to get firefox 2.0 for kubuntu with apt?
[06:24] <Zerb_Riss> norro: dunno, but probably
[06:25] <m4v3rick_> am out, tschuss
[06:25] <Zerb_Riss> norro: you could just use this
[06:25] <Zerb_Riss> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248158
[06:26] <norro> Zerb_Riss i googled for it, but couldn't find it. Any trick, where to look for this?
[06:26] <Zerb_Riss> once Firefox 2.0 is released it will be rolled out in the updates pretty quick
[06:26] <Zerb_Riss> Firefox updates are high priority updates, at least
[06:28] <norro> okay, so firefox 2.0 will probably be shipped with apt in dapper when available?
[06:28] <Zerb_Riss> sure
[06:28] <Zerb_Riss> I have it installed right now, it wasn't very difficult
[06:28] <Zerb_Riss> that script makes it pretty easy
[06:28] <Zerb_Riss> if it still works
[06:28] <TheGateKeeper> norro: may be in edge idk
[06:29] <norro> hmm, okay. thank you guys
[06:29] <Zerb_Riss> np :)
[06:30] <macoxp> hey can someone help me set up my wireless network connection to be static ip,
[06:31] <macoxp> i could do it in windows but this is asking for more info  then windows did
[06:34] <BonBonTheJon> macoxp: hey
[06:34] <BonBonTheJon> macoxp: there is a config file you need to edit
[06:34] <macoxp> bobesponja: hey dude
[06:35] <BonBonTheJon> macoxp: wrong name
[06:35] <reon> Is there a server CD besides the alternate cd ???
[06:35] <BonBonTheJon> reon: yes
[06:35] <macoxp> BonBonTheJon: no i'm useing wireless assistant
[06:35] <macoxp> BonBonTheJon: what do i put in domain i never had to do that in windows
[06:36] <reon> BonBonTheJon: I cannot find it as a current build for edgy. Can I do a server/base install from alternate
[06:36] <BonBonTheJon> macoxp: where are you looking
[06:36] <macoxp> BonBonTheJon: and in broadcast what goes there
[06:36] <macoxp> BonBonTheJon: wireless assistant
[06:36] <macoxp> BonBonTheJon: trying to get static ip
[06:37] <macoxp> BonBonTheJon: i know what to put in everything else from windows but domain and broadcast are new things i did not have to fill out b4
[06:38] <hammer> hi!
[06:39] <myllymaa> how can hub prevent NIC to get a ip? it dont do that for 3 other computers, just this one :/
[06:39] <BonBonTheJon> ping
[06:39] <BonBonTheJon> macoxp: can you read this
[06:39] <hammer> is there any packages for (k)ubuntu for circuit modelling and analysing?
[06:39] <hammer> *are
[06:39] <macoxp> yes i can read it
[06:39] <BonBonTheJon> macoxp: sorry, my connection went funky
[06:40] <macoxp> BonBonTheJon: it's cool
[06:40] <Skrot> Hi. Is there a way linux can read how many memory-chips I've got and how big they are?
[06:40] <macoxp> BonBonTheJon: basically i need a static ip on my locla network inorder to use bittorrent with any speed
[06:41] <BonBonTheJon> macoxp: on your router can you assign IPs with DHCP
[06:41] <BonBonTheJon> macoxp: on mine, it gives a static IP based on MAC address
[06:42] <BonBonTheJon> reon: I agree, I can't find a Edgy Server CD
[06:42] <BonBonTheJon> reon: edgy isnt officially released yet, but you could install with dapper and upgrade it
[06:42] <macoxp> BonBonTheJon: on my old one i could but not my new one
[06:42] <BonBonTheJon> macoxp: what router?
[06:43] <macoxp> BonBonTheJon: network everywhere somthing or other
[06:43] <BonBonTheJon> macoxp: the broadcast ip is the first three parts of the regular ip, and then 255 at the end
[06:44] <BonBonTheJon> macoxp: if the static is <IP_ADDRESS>, broadcast is <IP_ADDRESS>, I just looked mine  up
[06:44] <reon> BonBonTheJon: I found the server CD, http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[06:44] <BonBonTheJon> reon: cool
[06:44] <macoxp> BonBonTheJon: ok then i got it all filled out but the domain
[06:44] <reon> BonBonTheJon: I already have dapper but I prefer fresh installs. Can I do a base install from the alternate cd and leave the DM out ?
[06:45] <BonBonTheJon> reon: DM?
[06:45] <reon> BonBonTheJon: desktop manager, kde/Gnome
[06:45] <macoxp> BonBonTheJon: i'm gonna try it without domain
[06:45] <BonBonTheJon> reon: oh, here is what I used to set up my server http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[06:46] <BonBonTheJon> macoxp: yeah, try it, I don't know what to put there
[06:46] <reon> BonBonTheJon: I don't want a server as such but I need a base to work from in order to install X & kde-core. I dont want the kubuntu-desktop.
[06:47] <hammer> tell me an URL to ubuntu forum =) pls
[06:47] <BonBonTheJon> reon: oh, I guess that would work
[06:47] <Zerb_Riss> hammer: http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:47] <BonBonTheJon> hammer: google is your friend
[06:47] <hammer> BonBonTheJon: lazy i am =)
[06:48] <hammer> thx Zerb_Riss
[06:49] <Zerb_Riss> np
[06:50] <macoxp> BonBonTheJon: did not work :(
[06:50] <Black_Monkey> does the kubuntu live cd try to mount existing volumes?
[06:51] <ricanelite> Everyone here uses the KDE Desktop?
[06:51] <wily> ricanelite: what is problem?
[06:51] <ricanelite> How can I get gtk-gnutella in my desktop, because the only way I could run it by typing it in the run command
[06:52] <wily> is this application running a graphic mode?
[06:52] <butcher> lol
[06:52] <butcher> ?
[06:52] <BonBonTheJon> macoxp: did it give any error message
[06:52] <Zerb_Riss> is there a way to run monodevelop in KDE?
[06:53] <macoxp> BonBonTheJon: just said error nothing helpful
[06:53] <BonBonTheJon> macoxp: try again just typing something in the domain bo
[06:53] <macoxp> BonBonTheJon: i did :(
[06:54] <TheGateKeeper> ricanelite: use the menu editor (right click on the kicker)
[06:55] <BonBonTheJon> macoxp: how about if you just give the IP
[06:57] <ricanelite> what is the menu-editor?
[06:58] <ricanelite> please forgive me I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux
[06:58] <BonBonTheJon> ricanelite: you can edit the menu, the K at the lower left hand of the screen
[06:59] <ricanelite> I got it, I just checked my Internet Section in the Menu, and it was there
[06:59] <ricanelite> I just didn't pay attention
[06:59] <ricanelite> Im sorry...Boy! I feel dumb
[06:59] <BonBonTheJon> ricanelite: its ok, we all do stuff like that
[06:59] <ricanelite> lol
[07:01] <stuff> BonBonTheJon: hey it wouldent let me use my name lol
[07:02] <BonBonTheJon> stuff: whats your normal name
[07:02] <stuff> BonBonTheJon: realfolkblues i was just talkign to you, and b4 that macoxp but it keeps not letting me connect with the same name
[07:03] <stuff> BonBonTheJon: hey do you know how to make the play pause volume ect keys on my keyboard work?
[07:03] <BonBonTheJon> stuff: hold on I'll look up the tutorial
[07:03] <archangel_> how do I upgrade to macromedia 8?
[07:03] <BonBonTheJon> !multimedia buttons
[07:03] <stuff> BonBonTheJon: thanks
[07:04] <Zerb_Riss> archangel_: what do you mean?
[07:04] <archangel_> I cant play flash any more
[07:04] <Zerb_Riss> archangel_: can't play flash period?
[07:04] <archangel_> most website are telling me that I need the last version of macro.
[07:04] <Zerb_Riss> archangel_: ah, you'll want to install Flash 9 Beta then
[07:05] <archangel_> I cant play it, but just the sites that are version 7 and under
[07:05] <archangel_> I mean I can play it
[07:05] <liacone> !w32codecs
[07:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:05] <Zerb_Riss> archangel_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280313&highlight=flash+9
[07:05] <rico|0gl> :)
[07:05] <liacone> thanks ubotu :)
[07:05] <BonBonTheJon> stuff: here, if you have problems just ask, http://www.tannerstokes.com/2006/08/02/getting-those-multimedia-keys-to-work-in-kubuntu/
[07:06] <archangel_> thanks
[07:07] <archangel_> There are 3 links to get flash.... is one better than another?
[07:07] <Zerb_Riss> archangel_: dunno what you mean
[07:07] <Zerb_Riss> that first post has a repository you can use to install it
[07:07] <archangel_> (in the free formats link)
[07:08] <Zerb_Riss> if you want to install it manually, then just download it from Adobe Labs and copy the files to the right places
[07:08] <archangel_> I am a newbie
[07:08] <archangel_> its gotta be auto or I'm lost
[07:08] <archangel_> lol
[07:08] <Zerb_Riss> are you using Dapper?
[07:08] <archangel_> yes
[07:09] <archangel_> I have easy ubuntu....
[07:09] <Zerb_Riss> this is the easiest then
[07:09] <Zerb_Riss> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280081&highlight=flash+9
[07:09] <archangel_> is that what I need?
[07:09] <claudio__> hi
[07:09] <Zerb_Riss> so open Adept
[07:09] <Zerb_Riss> I'll walk you through this
[07:09] <claudio__> hi have installed <IP_ADDRESS> kernel
[07:09] <claudio__> but it stops loading
[07:09] <archangel_> ok
[07:10] <claudio__> when i start
[07:10] <claudio__> why?
[07:10] <instructor> X dies as soon as I login
[07:10] <Zerb_Riss> archangel_: in Adept go to View->Manage Respoitories
[07:10] <archangel_> adept is open
[07:10] <archangel_> ok
[07:11] <Zerb_Riss> in the New Repository box paste this: http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/
[07:11] <archangel_> done
[07:11] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[07:11] <archangel_> ok...apply?
[07:11] <Zerb_Riss> hold on
[07:11] <comtechsystems> is the p4m800 chipset supported in edgy? I've got a core 2 box just waiting for an os
[07:11] <archangel_> or add
[07:11] <archangel_> ok
[07:11] <Zerb_Riss> okay click on Add
[07:11] <archangel_> ok
[07:11] <Zerb_Riss> and it should show up at the top of the list
[07:12] <Zerb_Riss> do you see that in your list?
[07:12] <archangel_> yup it is
[07:12] <Zerb_Riss> okay see where it says "comment"?
[07:12] <Zerb_Riss> in front of it?
[07:13] <archangel_> hmmmm...... no
[07:13] <Zerb_Riss> what does it say under the "Type" column?
[07:13] <archangel_> lol.... yes I do
[07:13] <archangel_> duh, sorry
[07:13] <Zerb_Riss> okay double click on it and change the text to say "deb" (no quotes)
[07:13] <archangel_> k
[07:13] <Zerb_Riss> and hit enter
[07:13] <Zerb_Riss> ah poo
[07:14] <Zerb_Riss> did that remove the rest of the line for you?
[07:14] <archangel_> yup
[07:14] <Zerb_Riss> lol okay
[07:14] <Zerb_Riss> well double click on the empty box under URL and paste that URL again
[07:14] <Zerb_Riss> http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/
[07:14] <Zerb_Riss> and then hit enter
[07:14] <archangel_> its back
[07:14] <Zerb_Riss> okay
[07:14] <Zerb_Riss> now see the Distribution column?
[07:15] <archangel_> yes
[07:15] <Zerb_Riss> double click in there and type 'dapper' (no quotes)
[07:15] <archangel_> done
[07:15] <Zerb_Riss> and then under the Components column double click and paste '3v1n0' (NO QUOTES) in there
[07:16] <stuff> BonBonTheJon: hey back did you find that tut?
[07:16] <archangel_> done
[07:16] <BonBonTheJon> stuff: stuff: here, if you have problems just ask, http://www.tannerstokes.com/2006/08/02/getting-those-multimedia-keys-to-work-in-kubuntu/
[07:16] <Zerb_Riss> okay click Apply
[07:16] <Zerb_Riss> and then Close
[07:16] <archangel_> ok
[07:16] <Zerb_Riss> now click on Fetch Updates
[07:17] <phily> need help by connecting to another server
[07:17] <archangel_> wow
[07:17] <archangel_> done
[07:17] <Zerb_Riss> did it say there is an updated flashplugin-nonfree or something?
[07:18] <phily> plz is there someone who can help me ? qry me
[07:18] <archangel_> honestly so much stuff download, I have no idea what it said, it was very fast
[07:18] <Zerb_Riss> oh that was just the updates downloading
[07:18] <BonBonTheJon> stuff: did you get that
[07:18] <Zerb_Riss> do you see the Search box?
[07:18] <archangel_> yes
[07:18] <Zerb_Riss> type flashplugin in there
[07:19] <archangel_> yes it si in there
[07:19] <Zerb_Riss> just right click on it and click on Request Install
[07:19] <B-Minus> hello
[07:19] <Zerb_Riss> and then click on "Apply Changes" at the top
[07:20] <archangel_> it says installed
[07:20] <dinosaur-rus> anyone has problems with graphics in OpenOffice's UI?
[07:20] <Zerb_Riss> did you click Apply Changes?
[07:20] <archangel_> I cant, it was already installed I guess
[07:20] <B-Minus> i have some very strange files in my init.d folder, one is named ?SVW??U?????v?????????V??$??$D$T????"????O??????$?$D?@C$t
[07:20] <B-Minus> what can i do with these files ?
[07:20] <B-Minus> delete them ?
[07:21] <Zerb_Riss> does it say "upgradeable"?
[07:21] <archangel_> only option is to remove
[07:21] <Kim^J> Can you with the Kubuntu Live Edgy cd copy the old partion (this) to the one I'm gonna create and then just boot up again?
[07:21] <Zerb_Riss> hmm that makes no sense...
[07:21] <archangel_> no just 'remove' and 'details'
[07:22] <archangel_> description says it is for macro. version 7
[07:22] <Zerb_Riss> hmm...
[07:22] <archangel_> that matter?
[07:22] <Zerb_Riss> possibly
[07:22] <Zerb_Riss> what browser are you trying to use?
[07:22] <archangel_> firefox
[07:23] <Zerb_Riss> hmm I'm going to PM you so we don't keep spamming this channel
[07:23] <archangel_> o
[07:23] <archangel_> k
[07:23] <ngirard> Hi guys,
[07:23] <ngirard> I have a problem using digikam 0.8.2rc1 on Kubuntu Dapper: the "Image->send by mail" optiondoesn't show up..... has anyone ever experienced this problem ?
[07:24] <archangel_> my lunch break is about over
[07:24] <ahmed> could i install xgl on 6.06 ?
[07:24] <archangel_> so I will have to return a little later
[07:25] <stuff> BonBonTheJon: i'm working on the tut is that what you were asking?
[07:26] <BonBonTheJon> stuff: I just wanted to know if you got the link
[07:26] <ahmed> plz mfs i wanna install 3d desktop enviroment on kubuntu 6.06
[07:26] <stuff> BonBonTheJon: yup thanks
[07:31] <instructor> anyone for some X loving? :)
[07:32] <instructor> I can't login to X
[07:32] <instructor>  it just kicks me back out to the Login Prompt
[07:33] <tsdgeos> error about /tmp something?
[07:34] <Kr4t05> Where is libmp3lame.so?
[07:34] <fdoving> Kr4t05: liblame0
[07:34] <tsdgeos> apt-file search libmp3lame.so
[07:35] <fdoving> or apt:/
[07:35] <instructor> MMMMMm Apt:/
[07:36] <fdoving> instructor: check permissions on /tmp. 'stat -c %a /tmp' from commandline.
[07:36] <instructor> percenta?
[07:37] <instructor> 1777
[07:38] <t> i've run into an issue with adept several times where a package i am trying to install (vmware-player currently) has a EULA or some other dpkg dialog that must be responded to in order to continue. Adept doesn't seem to have the ability to respond to these prompts, anyone have any idea?
[07:38] <Kr4t05> Bah...
[07:38] <instructor> t: I think there is a perl thingy that you can install. Best to use konsole
[07:39] <fdoving> t, known issue. you'll have to use aptitude or apt-get from the commandline for that.
[07:40] <instructor> fdoving: 1777
[07:40] <t> ok, i kind of figured that
[07:40] <fdoving> instructor: that's normal.
[07:40] <t> i was hoping there was some magical trick i hadn't seen
[07:41] <hastesaver> t the commandline *is* magical :)
[07:41] <instructor> fdoving: Let me update the X server and see if this continues
[07:42] <instructor> fdoving: nope didn't make a difference
[07:43] <instructor> ok let me try dpkg-reconfigure again
[07:43] <fdoving> instructor: can you find some error message at the end of ~/.xsession-errors ?
[07:45] <TheGateKeeper> t: there is use synaptic instead of adept, at least you can press on a button that will open the terminal up and then you can respond
[07:48] <instructor> fdoving: X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
[07:48] <hastesaver> instructor, how are you starting X, BTW?
[07:48] <therealjvz> okay, MASSIVE problem here whilst installing Kubuntu
[07:49] <instructor> alt+ctrl+bkspace
[07:49] <therealjvz> I [naively]  thought that editting all my partitions EXCEPT for the /home partition would, y'know, NOT EFFING TOUCH the /home partition
[07:49] <jende_> Howdy
[07:49] <instructor> Huh it works now
[07:49] <jende_> therealjvz: whats the prob?
[07:49] <instructor> Thanks guys :-)
[07:50] <therealjvz> but apparently my /home partition is, uh, corrupted, or something
[07:50] <therealjvz> not even viewable
[07:50] <therealjvz> I tried doing an e2fsck on it (it's an ext3 partition), yet that partition isn't showing anything in it anymore...
[07:50] <BonBonTheJon> does anyone know anyone know about networks?
[07:51] <draik> Hello everyone.
[07:51] <jende_> therealjvz: how familiar are you with the bash?
[07:51] <draik> Is there a way to change the name of files all at once?
[07:51] <therealjvz> so, any help in recovering this partition would be appreciated
[07:51] <therealjvz> jende_: very
[07:51] <draik> I have many images that I would like to rename
[07:52] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know the mencoder string to convery WMA to mp3?
[07:52] <jende_> therealjvz: I'd say, you should give the chroot a try
[07:52] <therealjvz> draik: if you want to use the console, you can use the rename program
[07:52] <draik> Just to rename them in order (pic0001.jpg - picXXXX.jpg)
[07:52] <Kr4t05> The manpage for mencoder doesn't really leave me with much to work with.
[07:52] <draik> therealjvz, how do I do that?
[07:52] <therealjvz> Kr4t05: did you check the HTML docs for it?
[07:53] <Kr4t05> Where at?
[07:53] <therealjvz> draik: if you know regexp, you can simply use rename like "rename 's/foo/bar/' *.jpg"
[07:53] <stuff> BonBonTheJon: hey i got it working :D
[07:53] <hastesaver> Kr4t05, a quick and easy way is to dump it to .wav first and then use lame to encode it
[07:53] <BonBonTheJon> stuff: good
[07:53] <draik> I don't know regexp, therealjvz
[07:53] <therealjvz> Kr4t05: mplayerhq.hu or maybe /usr/share/doc/mplayer/
[07:53] <hastesaver> Kr4t05, or you can read the docs :)
[07:53] <therealjvz> draik: well, what do you want to do? how do you want to rename things?
[07:54] <stuff> BonBonTheJon: now if only i could fix my monitor referech rate
[07:54] <therealjvz> jende_: what do you mean?
[07:54] <draik> therealjvz, I want to rename all the pictures that I have as pic0001.jpg all the way to the last image being picXXXX.jpg
[07:55] <therealjvz> draik: what do you want to rename them to?
[07:55] <hastesaver> draik, get the package krename
[07:55] <BonBonTheJon> draik: look into krename
[07:55] <claudio__> hi have installed <IP_ADDRESS> kernel
[07:55] <therealjvz> or do what he said
[07:55] <claudio__> but it stops loading
[07:55] <draik> hastesaver, thanks
[07:55] <claudio__> why?
[07:55] <hastesaver> therealjvz, no, I think they currently have random names and he wants them to be named sequentially
[07:55] <draik> BonBonTheJon, thank you too
[07:55] <therealjvz> hastesaver: then your idea would work best
[07:55] <draik> hastesaver, that is the idea. Thank you for the suggestion. Is it in the regular repos?
[07:56] <therealjvz> draik: probably in universe since everything seems to be there instead of main
[07:56] <hastesaver> draik, yes, it's in universe
[07:56] <draik> perfect, got it
[07:56] <draik> Thank you therealjvz for your time. Thank you hastesaver for the app suggestion.
[07:57] <therealjvz> no prob
[07:57] <timon> Priveeeeeeet!
[07:57] <therealjvz> anyways, I've got an issue with data recovery that seems to have been caused by QtParted in the Kubuntu install CD
[07:57] <draik> Ok, how do I run krename?
[07:57] <therealjvz> Alt+F2 -> type "krename"
[07:57] <therealjvz> that probably works
[07:57] <BonBonTheJon> draik: it should appear in the menu
[07:57] <hammer> medved
[07:58] <timon> zai4eg ?
[07:58] <hammer> !ru > hammer
[07:58] <hammer> !ru > timon
[07:58] <draik> not in my menu, checking with ALT+F2
[07:59] <hastesaver> draik, you have to install it first. (Start Adept...)
[07:59] <therealjvz> I tried deleting all the partitions from my disk except /home and then re-created new partitions using that space
[07:59] <draik> hastesaver, I installed it through    sudo apt-get install krename
[07:59] <timon> kak ustanovit' icq na ebanutii kde
[07:59] <timon> ?
[08:00] <therealjvz> but now my /home partition doesn't seem to be accessible
[08:00] <therealjvz> what gives?
[08:00] <hastesaver> draik, ok :-)  It's the "Utilities" menu for me
[08:00] <BonBonTheJon> can someone who knows networks look over a edubuntu handbook page for me
[08:01] <draik> hastesaver, Not in there for me. Not yet anyway.
[08:01] <hammer> timon: sudo apt-get install licq
[08:01] <hastesaver> draik, are you sure it installed fine? Did apt-get give any errors?
[08:01] <therealjvz> timon: or use kopete :)
[08:01] <hammer> kopete suxx =)
[08:01] <therealjvz> :(
[08:01] <draik> hastesaver, no issues. I am using it ATM through  ALT+F2 "krename"
[08:02] <hammer> therealjvz: imho =)
[08:02] <Kr4t05> draik: you could use a loop (a self-referencing if/else statement, even) in a shell script.
[08:02] <therealjvz> draik: the menu entry should appear eventually...
[08:02] <therealjvz> any ideas on my problem?
[08:02] <IceDigger> finally got fglrx installed on kubuntu on my x800gto agp :D
[08:03] <therealjvz> is it possible to scan my /dev/hda device to find my old partitions and recreate those?
[08:04] <therealjvz> or do I need to take my hdd to a data recovery shop now?
[08:04] <jende_> therealjvz: can you mount your /home once you booted from a LiveCD and went into a chroot environment?
[08:04] <therealjvz> jende_: what chroot environment?
[08:04] <draik> therealjvz, Yeah. I'm not too worried about when it shows up since I know it's installed and operational
[08:04] <IceDigger> is there a way to install xgl on the 6.10?
[08:05] <therealjvz> jende_: I repartitioned everything EXCEPT for /home, yet I can't access my /home partition (assuming it's /dev/hda5 since it matches the size of the original partition when viewed in parted)
[08:06] <hammer> where do i find moodin splash screen manager?
[08:06] <jende_> therealjvz: sorry, I misunderstood you. Have you got a tool such as Paragon HD-Manager
[08:06] <therealjvz> is the QtParted included in Kubuntu Edgy rc like, really fucking buggy?
[08:06] <therealjvz> jende_: no, just Linux (might have a copy of Partition Magic lying around somewhere though)
[08:07] <jende_> therealjvz: that might worth looking for and give that a go
[08:07] <bitsneaky> anyone have a fix for a wifi card that wont work: Linksys WMP54G 802.11g 54Mbps Wireless PCI Adapter
[08:08] <hammer> where do i find moodin splash screen manager?
[08:08] <jontec> how do I setup a command prompt only version of kubuntu?
[08:09] <IceDigger> amarok can't play my flac files
[08:09] <IceDigger> or mp3s
[08:09] <jende_> !flac
[08:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:09] <jende_> !mp3
[08:09] <IceDigger> thanks
[08:09] <jontec> !libxine-extracodecs
[08:09] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[08:10] <jende_> therealjvz: I could give Paragin to ya, but the Version I've got is german
[08:10] <jontec> ^^install that for mp3s
[08:10] <therealjvz> jende_: argh, that won't help me, I don't know german :P
[08:10] <jende_> therealjvz: I thought so...bugger
[08:10] <therealjvz> jende_: do you know what I can do to get that partition back?
[08:11] <therealjvz> I know that ALL I did was remove the OTHER partitions (all managed via LVM if that helps) and tried creating new partitions
[08:11] <therealjvz> I don't even know if it wrote the partitions correctly
[08:11] <jende_> therealjvz: the only thing I really can think of is PartitionMagic or anything like that
[08:11] <therealjvz> can I recover my old partitions that way?
[08:12] <jende_> therealjvz: you should be able to backup at least your /home
[08:12] <jende_> therealjvz: and if possible to recreate your old partitions
[08:12] <therealjvz> I don't know what happened to it though
[08:13] <therealjvz> all I did was modify data that wasn't /home, and now /home doesn't work...
[08:13] <jende_> therealjvz: me neither, and I'm now quite clueless. Sorry, m8
[08:14] <jende_> therealjvz: maybe some debian gurus can helpl?
[08:14] <jende_> therealjvz: #debian
[08:14] <jende_> therealjvz: ask them, they helped me once
[08:14] <therealjvz> hmm, alright
[08:14] <jontec> oh god.
[08:14] <jontec> no don't go there.
[08:14] <therealjvz> but they're totally on a different irc server btw
[08:14] <jontec> they will kill you
[08:14] <therealjvz> jontec: why?
[08:15] <jende_> jontec: they wont
[08:15] <jontec> they did to me one night.
[08:15] <jontec> and I've never been back
[08:15] <jontec> O_o I was even having a problem with their software
[08:15] <jende_> jontec: I#m quite often there ans on the ML, too and as yet, hadn't had any dramas at all with them
[08:15] <jontec> using their usb boot thing
[08:15] <ketsugi> Is there any way to get Katapult to play nice with XGL/Beryl?
[08:16] <jontec> the debian channel here on freenode
[08:16] <ketsugi> I get this ugly whitish border around the katapult launcher
[08:16] <therealjvz> jontec: how long ago was this?
[08:16] <jontec> about... maybe a month or so ago
[08:16] <jende_> I've been there just last week
[08:16] <jende_> and yesterday
[08:16] <therealjvz> well, I don't know how long ago this happened, but #debian and all the other channels moved to irc.oftc.net
[08:16] <jontec> I was trying to get my stupid laptop (64MB memory and pretty broken CD-rom) to work
[08:18] <jontec> well adios you guys, I'm trying my hand with some vmware things.
[08:18] <jende_> therealjvz: good on ya, one of the few who noticed that they moved
[08:18] <therealjvz> besides all the debian users who frequented #debian of course
[08:19] <jende_> therealjvz: like penguinslair
[08:19] <hazard2> can kwallet be set to let kopte run without having to enter the wallet password?
[08:19] <jende_> therealjvz: they moved as well
[08:20] <birdfish> Hey guys, for some reason when I booted the laptop this morning and tried to connect to the network, wireless assistant told me that it couldn't find the wireless interface.
[08:20] <birdfish> Anyone know why this might be?  I was using it just fine last night.
[08:20] <jende_> therealjvz: see ya in a lil while, have to get some food
[08:23] <campbch> anyone know how to get printers working over the network? our university controls printers through //apollo/<printer name> but i can't access anything... all windoze machines just detect them automatically. anything i should do?
[08:25] <IceDigger> how do I sync my pocket pc dell axim x51v with kubuntu?
[08:25] <hammer> !moodin
[08:25] <ubotu> moodin is a ksplash theme engine, enabled by default in Kubuntu Dapper, and you can grab it for Breezy here: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=25705
[08:25] <hammer> how to change splash screen in kde?
[08:26] <campbch> has anyone else had experience with installing printers over the network?
[08:26] <TheGateKeeper> campbch: well this is just a *guess*, but maybe installing samba will help idk
[08:26] <campbch> i have samba
[08:26] <campbch> :(
[08:26] <TheGateKeeper> well I said it was a gues :-)
[08:27] <campbch> :D
[08:27] <therealjvz> campbch: I have experience setting up cups printers :P
[08:27] <campbch> how do i know how to set it up?
[08:28] <campbch> i have a working windows machine 6 inches away, would i be able to see settings from that?
[08:29] <BambiX> Hi all
[08:30] <BambiX> I installed the r128 drivers and now during boot when X starts it hangs up
[08:30] <narasim_7> hello.when i set the power saving time in the display preferences,it always defaults to 2 hrs after i login again..any clues?
[08:30] <BambiX> how do i roll back the drivers
[08:30] <Kr4t05> Bah.... How can I get k3b to support WMA?
[08:31] <joakim> is it anybody so have wolfenstein ET ?
[08:31] <campbch> first off, will networked printers work with CUPS?
[08:31] <joakim> when i ry to run sh et and start the game than i got ERROR
[08:31] <joakim> joakim@joakim-Home:~/Mine Dokumenter/Spill/Wolfenstein/Install$ ls
[08:31] <campbch> the rest of the 3000 laptops on the network connect through windows
[08:32] <joakim> CHANGES  etded.x86  et.run  ET.xpm                                openurl.sh
[08:32] <joakim> Docs     etmain     et.x86  EULA_Wolfenstein_Enemy_Territory.txt  pb
[08:32] <joakim> joakim@joakim-Home:~/Mine Dokumenter/Spill/Wolfenstein/Install$ sh et.run
[08:32] <joakim> If you read this, then something failed during the setup
[08:32] <joakim> See http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/ for troubleshooting
[08:32] <joakim> joakim@joakim-Home:~/Mine Dokumenter/Spill/Wolfenstein/Install$
[08:36] <BambiX> can someone please help me?
[08:36] <hammer> stsuko...
[08:37] <campbch> :D i thik i got it
[08:37] <Zerb_Riss> not if we don't know your question, BambiX
[08:37] <BambiX> i need to uninstall the r128 driver
[08:38] <BambiX> kubuntu won't boot =(
[08:38] <BambiX> well it'll boot with command line
[08:38] <BambiX> but no flashy kde
[08:38] <therealjvz> okay then
[08:38] <Zerb_Riss> okay
[08:38] <BambiX> okay
[08:38] <Zerb_Riss> lol
[08:38] <BambiX> =)
[08:38] <therealjvz> you can remove it via apt-get
[08:38] <BambiX> so.... what do i do
[08:38] <BambiX> aaah ok
[08:38] <therealjvz> I don't know the name of the package
[08:38] <BambiX> not sure it's a package
[08:39] <BambiX> ehm
[08:39] <therealjvz> r128 driver would be a package
[08:39] <BambiX> wait i had to make three .deb packages
[08:39] <therealjvz> as long as you're using xorg 7.x
[08:39] <BambiX> from the ati driversset
[08:39] <Zerb_Riss> this sounds bad already :)
[08:39] <BambiX> oh man, i hope not
[08:40] <juanjo> hi everyone i'm juan from argentina
[08:40] <BambiX> ok i downloaded linux drivers and created three .deb packages from the ati files with help from here, then i installed those and now I',m borked, can i just deinstall em?
[08:40] <BambiX> apt-get remove?
[08:41] <juanjo> i want to know what is the user and pass for cups in kubuntu, because i wan to install an HP PSC and i can't
[08:41] <Jon335> My Kubuntu is hanging on bootup. The last thing it says is: Restarting system log...     ok
[08:41] <campbch> :D i just figured out the cups thing
[08:41] <campbch> it turns out
[08:41] <juanjo> sorry campbch, i did not understand what you've said
[08:41] <cpk2> wow
[08:41] <Zerb_Riss> BambiX: probably dpkg -r <packagename>
[08:42] <cpk2> do NOT leave qdvdauthor open for a whole weekend
[08:42] <campbch> if you have a user/pass for the server you need to type that, IE on my university server /apollo/ the same user/pass for the main site
[08:42] <BambiX> zerb ok
[08:42] <campbch> cpk2: result?
[08:42] <juanjo> ok, i'll try that
[08:42] <juanjo> thanks
[08:42] <campbch> otherwise if its a local printer the user/pass for cups should be the admin usr/pass
[08:43] <campbch> is it over a server or local?
[08:43] <cpk2> campbch: near death of desktop, after waiting for qdvdauthor to stop for a minute or 2 everything seems ok now =P
[08:43] <juanjo> its a printer that runs on a winxp computer
[08:43] <campbch> seems ok now :D
[08:43] <campbch> ok
[08:43] <campbch> start the printer config
[08:43] <cpk2> campbch: I was having trouble redrawing desktops when i switched even
[08:43] <juanjo> and i put root and my pass but don work
[08:43] <campbch> ok one sec.
[08:43] <Jon335> Can anyone help me?
[08:44] <juanjo> via cups on the web browser
[08:44] <campbch> ok, you need to say add printer/class
[08:44] <juanjo> ok, i'll wait
[08:44] <Zerb_Riss> Jon335: not if we don't know your problem
[08:44] <campbch> so Add--> printer/class
[08:44] <Jon335> My Kubuntu is hanging on bootup. The last thing it says is: Restarting system log...     ok
[08:44] <Zerb_Riss> hmm
[08:44] <campbch> it shouldn't ask for a  password by default
[08:44] <Zerb_Riss> did you just upgrade?
[08:44] <campbch> juanjo: got it?
[08:45] <juanjo> i click on add printer first
[08:45] <campbch> yep then next
[08:45] <campbch> now
[08:45] <Jon335> Zerb_Riss, I just upgraded ktorrent
[08:45] <campbch> if it's running on the network, off of an xp machine, it'll be shared over samba
[08:45] <mhterres> hello everybody
[08:45] <Zerb_Riss> Jon335: what happens if you Ctrl+Alt+F2?
[08:45] <juanjo> yeah, i know that
[08:45] <Jon335> I get a login prompt
[08:46] <Jon335> ????
[08:46] <campbch> if you don't need to log in to your other computer, you just leave it anonymous
[08:46] <Zerb_Riss> I would try logging in and removing ktorrent
[08:46] <mock> hello
[08:46] <Zerb_Riss> then try to reboot and see if it works
[08:46] <juanjo> i need to log
[08:46] <campbch> but if that machine needs your username/pass then use the one for that computer
[08:46] <Zerb_Riss> if you get back in kubuntu then try reinstalling ktorrent
[08:46] <juanjo> ok
[08:46] <juanjo> i have to write smb://user@mymachine/myresource?
[08:47] <campbch> shouldn't need to...
[08:47] <campbch> for example, my unversity name/pass were used to log in to the university-run print server
[08:48] <campbch> so just your simple user name and pass would work for the xp machine
[08:48] <campbch> Login:XPname Pass: XPpass
[08:49] <juanjo> where it says Ubicacion (location in english) i have tu write that?
[08:49] <campbch> no la veo :( donde se dice?
[08:50] <campbch> did you find the printer?
[08:50] <hydra__> ok
[08:50] <hydra__> so I've got kubuntu installed
[08:50] <campbch> isn't it wonderful?
[08:51] <silentme> hi there... i just got kubuntu installed :)
[08:51] <juanjo> sorry, not "ubicacion" it's "URI de la  conexion"
[08:51] <Jon335> Zerb_Riss, It still does not start X.
[08:51] <hydra__> now, can someone tell me what's up with dragging windows.  it seems if i click (and hold the left button) on a title bar and then move the mouse pointer up or down the window won't drag
[08:51] <campbch> what does your config box say?
[08:51] <coreymon77> guys
[08:52] <hydra__> if i click and hold and then move left or right the window starts to move shortly afterwards aslong as the pointer remains in the titlebar
[08:52] <coreymon77> i need some help with registering an openPGP key
[08:52] <coreymon77> with launchpad
[08:52] <juanjo> it is written "smb" on a text box
[08:52] <hydra__> can someone tell me how to "fix" it so that it works like any other system's window dragging/sizing
[08:52] <coreymon77> i got the whole fingerprint thing and entered it into the box
[08:52] <campbch> should hit SMB shared printer (next) user/pass (next) hit scan, find the printer, select it, and it will go as long as your user and password are good
[08:53] <juanjo> at 3rd step of the "ADD PRINTER"
[08:53] <coreymon77> now launchpad sent me a gibberish email and said i had to decrypt it
[08:53] <campbch> is there a tree for the network?
[08:53] <coreymon77> i dont understand how to decrypt it
[08:53] <campbch> it should say MSHOME or something, where your xp machine will be located
[08:53] <iolos> kalispera
[08:53] <coreymon77> and the howtos i have been told to look at just confuse me more
[08:53] <campbch> hit that, and find your other machine
[08:53] <coreymon77> so can someone please help me
[08:54] <campbch> then select the machine and hit next
[08:54] <iolos> 3 erwtiseis
[08:54] <iolos> 1 pws kanw mount skliro
[08:54] <iolos> 2 pws vazw codecs gia mp3 kai video
[08:54] <iolos> 3 odigos gia xdl?
[08:54] <hydra__> sizing a window is similar, there's a huge delay before i can acutally move the mouse otherwise the drag operation isn't recognised
[08:54] <campbch> if it's not showing up the same, then i don't know what to say :( you might have a different thing installed or something
[08:54] <coreymon77> can anyone please help me?
[08:55] <iolos> hi!
[08:55] <iolos> how do i mount a hdd?
[08:55] <juanjo> campbch, thanks for your help, I think it was easier but it'll take me some time, thanks a lot for your help but i've got to go
[08:55] <therealjvz> iolos: via the command line?
[08:55] <campbch> mount /dev/hda, hdb, etc
[08:55] <iolos> yes
[08:55] <campbch> alright, good luck juan
[08:55] <hydra__> brb
[08:56] <Jon335> startx just coughs about the virtual height and dies.
[08:56] <juanjo> i'll try later with your advices!
[08:56] <therealjvz> bah, no good help from oftc#debian
[08:56] <juanjo> thnaks a lot! bye!
[08:56] <therealjvz> the main idea was to recreate the partition
[08:56] <campbch> ack!
[08:56] <therealjvz> but I can't find where the partition starts
[08:56] <therealjvz> I tried using a program call gpart that searches for possible partitions
[08:56] <therealjvz> and even though I might have found the partition
[08:56] <campbch> why does my tray keep resizing to one line?
[08:57] <therealjvz> I tried recreating it
[08:57] <campbch> it is supposed to be :::not - - -
[08:57] <therealjvz> and e2fsck still can't find the backup superblock
[08:57] <campbch> and it changes whenever it feels like it
[08:57] <LjL> ouch, lost partitions
[08:57] <Lynoure> campbch: all the time or when using Opera?
[08:58] <hydra__> there seems to be something called "drag start time" in system settings/keyboard and mouse/mouse/advanced
[08:58] <hydra__> but they don't make any difference
[08:58] <hydra__> are they supposed to work?
[08:58] <campbch> all the time
[08:58] <campbch> i dont use opera
[08:58] <hydra__> do I have to restart - god forbid that I have to resart a linux system, oh the sacrilidge
[08:59] <LjL> therealjvz, i just joined, but just for the record, i know there is a package called testdisk in the repos that tries to help restoring partitions
[08:59] <therealjvz> I'll try that
[08:59] <campbch> if i switch to large, they go back to two rows, and when i switch back to normal they stay in two rows, but once in a while they will pop back out to one row horizontal :(
[08:59] <therealjvz> it's in universe I'd assume?
[09:01] <LjL> think so
[09:01] <LjL> !info testdisk
[09:01] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[09:01] <therealjvz> gah, everything's in universe...
[09:01] <therealjvz> main should be renamed to "earth"
[09:01] <LjL> heh
[09:01] <therealjvz> it thinks it has everything, but in reality only has like .0000000000001% of it
[09:02] <LjL> well main is really just the packages directly mantained by the ubuntu core devs -- that is, the packages thare are on the CDs, and other very well-known packages such as apache, mysql, postgres, etc
[09:03] <Jon335> Is there a bootlog mode for Kubuntu?
[09:03] <Zerb_Riss> Jon335: did you remove ktorrent?
[09:03] <Jon335> Zerb_Riss, Yes
[09:03] <Zerb_Riss> Jon335: didn't work?
[09:04] <Jon335> Zerb_Riss, It still doesn't start X
[09:04] <Zerb_Riss> Jon335: can you start it manually?
[09:04] <Jon335> Zerb_Riss, startx just coughs about the virtual height and dies.
[09:04] <Zerb_Riss> are you sure you didn't upgrade to Edgy?
[09:05] <Jon335> Zerb_Riss, Nope, I would know, and it says Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS on the terminal
[09:05] <Zerb_Riss> hmm
[09:06] <Zerb_Riss> what happens if you sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop?
[09:06] <Ropechoborra> How do i install xgl on kde?
[09:06] <therealjvz> I guess it's a good thing I have my privates keys backed up...
[09:07] <Zerb_Riss> arg
[09:07] <Zerb_Riss> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-dekstop
[09:07] <Jon335> Zerb_Riss, It wants to install that and a bunch of dependencies
[09:07] <Zerb_Riss> yah I think you're missing them
[09:07] <Zerb_Riss> you use KDE, right?
[09:08] <Jon335> That's why I'm running Kubuntu
[09:08] <Zerb_Riss> well I just wanted to make sure you weren't in here asking about Gnome, lol :)
[09:08] <Jon335> lol
[09:08] <campbch> see? it did it again
[09:08] <campbch> the tray won't stay the way i put it in two rows, not one row
[09:09] <Zerb_Riss> so yah, you need the kubuntu-desktop package and all it's dependencies
[09:09] <campbch> it's such a waste of space
[09:09] <Zerb_Riss> you must have removed them sometime
[09:11] <campbch> is anyone else having this problem? something is stopping my tray from maintaining 2 rows of x columns, and keeps flattening out horizontally
[09:11] <Jon335> Zerb_Riss, It's still not working
[09:11] <Zerb_Riss> Jon335: you got all those packages?
[09:11] <Jon335> Zerb_Riss, yes
[09:12] <Jon335> and rebooted
[09:12] <Zerb_Riss> Jon335: what does startx give you now?
[09:12] <Jon335> Zerb_Riss, the same error
[09:13] <joakim> hi how can i find my sound card ? is use oss  or alsa
[09:13] <Zerb_Riss> Jon335: is kdm running?
[09:14] <Jon335> Zerb_Riss, I ran it, but startx still doesn't work
[09:15] <Zerb_Riss> hmm
[09:15] <Zerb_Riss> that makes no sense
[09:15] <Zerb_Riss> same error?
[09:15] <Jon335> yes
[09:15] <Zerb_Riss> http://rafb.net/paste paste the error
[09:16] <snake666> somebody can  help me
[09:18] <Jon335> Zerb_Riss, http://rafb.net/paste/results/bNmkUi54.html
[09:18] <Zerb_Riss> hmm
[09:18] <Zerb_Riss> is your resolution screwed up?
[09:19] <Zerb_Riss> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[09:19] <Zerb_Riss> oop
[09:19] <Zerb_Riss> got it backwards
[09:20] <Zerb_Riss> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:24] <Jon335> Zerb_Riss, Thanks!  and sits there forever
[09:31] <snake666> just asking you
[09:32] <snake666> what ip configuration do you have for eth1
[09:32] <ubuntu> Is kubuntu live just like Kubuntu?
[09:32] <Zerb_Riss> I dont' have an eth1 in my comptuer
[09:32] <hazard2> I have eth1 in one of my machines.
[09:32] <snake666> so
[09:32] <hazard2> Buttons?
[09:32] <keltoume> hello
[09:32] <hazard2> hi!
[09:33] <Zerb_Riss> ubuntu: yes, the live CD of Kubuntu is exactly the same as Kubuntu
[09:33] <snake666> if a have eth1
[09:33] <snake666> how i can route
[09:33] <snake666> eth0 to eth1
[09:33] <hazard2> gramitical construct failure.
[09:34] <snake666> hazard2
[09:34] <snake666> go fuck yourself
[09:34] <keltoume> i m on a laptop  > i switch to kubuntu from ubuntu but now no action when a want to decrease or increase the volume with  fn+f7 or fn+F8
[09:34] <snake666> lamer
[09:34] <birdfish> Hey guys, why isn't the kubuntu installer allowing me to create my partitions with the xfs filesystem?
[09:34] <keltoume> any idea ?
[09:34] <Zerb_Riss> birdfish: I don't believe gparted supports XFS
[09:34] <Zerb_Riss> not sure
[09:34] <Zerb_Riss> err
[09:34] <Zerb_Riss> qparted I guess
[09:35] <birdfish> Well, it lists xfs, but perhaps it doesn't
[09:35] <birdfish> Should I go with jfs?
[09:35] <Zerb_Riss> hmm weird
[09:35] <birdfish> And is it any better than ext3?
[09:35] <hazard2> ext3 has been fine for me
[09:35] <Zerb_Riss> I dunno
[09:35] <Zerb_Riss> XFS and resier are faster than ext3
[09:35] <cpk2> isnt jfs for large files?
[09:35] <Zerb_Riss> reiser*
[09:36] <birdfish> Yeah, it definitely doesn't allow for reiser :/
[09:36] <Zerb_Riss> keltoume: you can set up key combinations in System Settings->Accessibility Options
[09:36] <hazard2> I see...
[09:36] <bertugolu> can someone tell me how to reinstall the x?
[09:36] <Zerb_Riss> keltoume: erm, I mean Keyboard and Mouse
[09:36] <snake666> hazard2 suck me
[09:36] <kervan> kuruntu
[09:36] <hazard2> Ummm...no?
[09:37] <bertugolu> someone help
[09:37] <hazard2> with what bertugolu?
[09:37] <Zerb_Riss> bertugolu: what is your problem?
[09:37] <snake666> slut
[09:37] <hazard2> Yea, you seeem to have a keyboard input problem.
[09:37] <hazard2> Sort of like snake666 here.
[09:37] <Zerb_Riss> lol
[09:37] <bertugolu> emm...i need to reintstall the X bcos when i come to reconfigure the X it says that it is broke
[09:37] <bertugolu> n
[09:37] <Zerb_Riss> Thems fightin' werds
[09:38] <Zerb_Riss> bertugolu: how are you reconfiguring it?
[09:38] <bertugolu> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:38] <snake666> hazard2, you are my problem
[09:38] <bertugolu> thats what i wrote...it says taht it is broken
[09:38] <Zerb_Riss> bertugolu: what error do you get?
[09:38] <snake666> stoopid
[09:38] <LjL> !language > snake666
[09:38] <hazard2> I'm going to let you handle this zerb, me and x windows usually result in xwindows not loading.
[09:38] <snake666> and boring people
[09:38] <Zerb_Riss> lol
[09:38] <Zerb_Riss> hazard2: must have been comedy hour
[09:39] <bertugolu> It says that it cant reconfigure bcos it is broken
[09:39] <Zerb_Riss> or twenty minutes
[09:39] <bertugolu> or something..
[09:39] <hazard2> (I'm amazed this install has been working without me cripplinging xwindow for more than 4 days)
[09:40] <hazard2> rerun the baseconfig thing
[09:40] <hazard2> I think that's how I resetup it to get it working.
[09:40] <bertugolu> how.....i thought of reinstalling it
[09:40] <Zerb_Riss> bertugolu: try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg
[09:40] <bertugolu> the kubuntu
[09:41] <bertugolu> so i type..sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg ?
[09:41] <Zerb_Riss> yah
[09:41] <bertugolu> wil try
[09:41] <hazard2> do you presently have a windowserver running?
[09:41] <hazard2> (or are you talking to us on another machine?)
[09:42] <bertugolu> me?
[09:42] <hazard2> yes
[09:42] <Zerb_Riss> bertugolu: you didn't happen to update to Edgy, did you?
[09:42] <bertugolu> yeah
[09:42] <Zerb_Riss> heh
[09:42] <Zerb_Riss> okay then
[09:42] <bertugolu> what
[09:42] <Zerb_Riss> forget what I said
[09:42] <Zerb_Riss> do this
[09:42] <Zerb_Riss> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:42] <hazard2> Stupid question: what is edgy?
[09:42] <Zerb_Riss> hazard2: Ubuntu 6.10
[09:42] <bertugolu> thats it?
[09:42] <Zerb_Riss> "Edgy Eft"
[09:42] <Zerb_Riss> bertugolu: yes
[09:43] <bertugolu> 10x
[09:43] <Zerb_Riss> bertugolu: you are missing the packages
[09:43] <Zerb_Riss> same thing happened to me
[09:43] <keltoume> Zerb_Riss: i don know what i have to do > the fn+F4 works it is for the brigthness but fn+f7 and f8 witch control the volume do not works
[09:43] <Zerb_Riss> keltoume: oh for your laptop?
[09:43] <keltoume> yes
[09:43] <hazard2> I really hate having a 4GB drive.
[09:43] <Zerb_Riss> hmm
[09:43] <Zerb_Riss> hazard2: I have a 6gb on my laptop :)
[09:44] <hazard2> Lucky you!
[09:44] <BadRabbit320> !reiser
[09:44] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[09:44] <hazard2> You've got enough space for the system, AND some stuff!
[09:44] <Zerb_Riss> lol
[09:44] <Zerb_Riss> true
[09:45] <hazard2> UGH....ever since I added a few more package repositiories to my apt-list adept takes forever to do anything.
[09:45] <Zerb_Riss> lol
[09:46] <hazard2> I can't wait until my laptop gets fixed.
[09:47] <Zerb_Riss> hazard2: I wish I could afford a new laptop :)
[09:47] <zorglu_> hmm my / partition reached the 'maximal mount count' on boot, and the fsck reported 'FAILED' in red for 1 sec and then rebooted
[09:47] <hazard2> My laptop isn't new.
[09:47] <zorglu_> is it good ? :)
[09:48] <Zerb_Riss> hehe
[09:48] <zorglu_> btw quite bad idea to reboot automatically
[09:48] <Zerb_Riss> mine is a P2-350 or something
[09:48] <hazard2> My laptop is old, its a 900mhz G3.
[09:48] <Zerb_Riss> Gubuntu runs on it okay
[09:48] <Zerb_Riss> I'm scared to install KDE on it though
[09:48] <goeki> hello
[09:48] <hazard2> hi.
[09:48] <zorglu_> i hope ubuntu will stop those automatize stuff when human interaction are required
[09:48] <Lynoure> Zerb_Riss: why, you do not need to give up Gnome completely
[09:49] <Lynoure> Zerb_Riss: you can have KDE on the side
[09:49] <hazard2> I just keep OSX on mine, it does everything I need it to. (though I like kubuntu because compiling stuff issn't a black art involving human sacrifice)
[09:49] <hazard2> Or something.
[09:49] <Zerb_Riss> Lynoure: only a 6gb hard disk and I don't know how well Kubuntu will run on a P2-350
[09:49] <goeki> somebody from germany or austria here???
[09:49] <hazard2> Not me.
[09:50] <Zerb_Riss> !de > goeki
[09:50] <Chuck> Ich bin aus Deutschland
[09:50] <hazard2> Gah!
[09:50] <hazard2> Open office, or a movie?   ...hmmm....
[09:50] <Zerb_Riss> lol
[09:50] <Zerb_Riss> decision, decisions...
[09:50] <goeki> bin aus sterreich
[09:50] <Qaldune> hi
[09:50] <Chuck> Na dann.
[09:50] <hazard2> get work done, or be midly amused by the same movie over and over again...
[09:50] <Qaldune> how can i install nvidia-3d support in kubuntu?
[09:51] <Zerb_Riss> !nvidia
[09:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:51] <hazard2> Like that.
[09:51] <Zerb_Riss> !nvidia > Qaldune
[09:51] <Chuck> Was mich gerad beschftigt... wisst ihr wie man unter C++ die Wurzel von a ausdrckt?
[09:51] <Qaldune> !nvidia
[09:51] <Qaldune> ???
[09:51] <Qaldune> !nvidia??
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia?? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <hazard2> I wish this machine's SiS630 Chipset did that '3d' thing....
[09:52] <Qaldune> zerb_riss what's that??
[09:52] <hazard2> what is what?
[09:52] <Zerb_Riss> !nvidia > Qaldune
[09:53] <hazard2> Must...find...way to throttle fan in this system....
[09:53] <Qaldune> zerb_riss wtf is that?
[09:54] <hazard2> its a bot response to the quearyt
[09:54] <Qaldune> oook zerb_riss i've got it
[09:54] <Qaldune> sorry
[09:54] <hazard2> Its probably instructions for getting the nvidia 3d drivers working on kubuntu
[09:54] <Zerb_Riss> np :)
[09:54] <Qaldune> thx
[09:54] <Zerb_Riss> hth
[09:54] <hazard2> At least that snake guy with the weird keyboard prolems went away.
[09:55] <Zerb_Riss> lol
[09:55] <hazard2> Do you think there's any chance I could get the windows fan controller driver working under wine on this machine?
[09:55] <Zerb_Riss> lol maybe
[09:56] <Zerb_Riss> did you google for a Linux one?
[09:56] <hazard2> (and if so, which version of windows driver should I try? ME, 2k, or XP?)
[09:56] <hazard2> Yea, and I can find...exactly...nothing.
[09:56] <hazard2> There's plenty on linux fan control for vaio NOTEBOOKs....but this is a minitower (though it DOES fit in my backpack).
[09:57] <hazard2> I've got lm-sensors working, but the fan controller part of it can't seem to connect the dots between the fan and wathever it is the windows driver sends instructions to.
[09:58] <hazard2> (though LM sensors does also give lots of bogus results, probably because the order for the sensors is wrong
[09:59] <Zerb_Riss> hazard2: weird
[09:59] <Zerb_Riss> lm_sensors works for my MSI
[09:59] <hazard2> well this is a sony vaio.
[09:59] <hazard2> and it IS a miserably cheap little system.
[10:00] <hazard2> and I suspect several senseors just aren't working right.
[10:00] <hazard2> or are configured wrong.
[10:00] <Zerb_Riss> probably
[10:00] <Zerb_Riss> have you tried the windows software before?
[10:01] <hazard2> No...I hadn't thought of it before.
[10:01] <hazard2> If this dosen't work, its time to design and build my own fan controller (which of course will end nothing short of a catastrophic failure)
[10:02] <Samuli^> has anyone else had this problem.. I can't get anti-aliasing of fonts to work in KDE they look horrible!
[10:02] <Zerb_Riss> I can't get it to work on this Dell
[10:02] <hazard2> what to work?
[10:02] <Zerb_Riss> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[10:02] <hazard2> ???
[10:02] <hazard2> me=never used wine before
[10:02] <Zerb_Riss> this is lm_sensors
[10:03] <Zerb_Riss> trying to install it
[10:03] <hazard2> Ah, that's a weird error.
[10:03] <hazard2> adf
[10:03] <hazard2> oops
[10:03] <hazard2> Something...is...happening....
[10:04] <hazard2> its doing one of those 'take over the whole screen for no reason at all' things.
[10:04] <hazard2> and its ugly purple, ewww...
[10:05] <hazard2> Its taking an awful long time to 'figure out what OS its running'
[10:06] <|GaiJin|> running Ktorrent under Kubuntu (DOH) and while downloading, I keep getting Too Many open files error.... How can I solve this
[10:06] <Zerb_Riss> |GaiJin|: sorr,y I use Azureus
[10:06] <hazard2> I dunno either.
[10:06] <zorglu_> |GaiJin|: google for it, there is a system limit to setup to increase this
[10:06] <hazard2> Download torrents with less files?
[10:07] <Ace2016> hi all
[10:07] <Ace2016> anyone here use vlc?
[10:07] <Ace2016> i can't get vlc to jump forwards and backwards with scroll whell up/down can anyone help?
[10:07] <hazard2> Ace2016L never worked for me either.
[10:11] <Ace2016> :(
[10:11] <hazard2> Hmmm....
[10:11] <hazard2> I wonder if its going to be able to determine if I'm not trying to install this driver on some dell or something (though why would they care?)
[10:13] <hazard2> well, whatever its doing its doing 100% cpu of it.
[10:21] <hazard2> oops
[10:21] <ardea> hi
[10:21] <Zerb_Riss> oops?
[10:21] <hydra__> seriously, can someone help with the drag problem i mentioned earlier?
[10:22] <Zerb_Riss> drag problem?
[10:22] <gerhard> hi kanal!
[10:22] <hydra__> yeah, when i click to drag i have to wait before the click is registered
[10:22] <hydra__> seems to be happening for text selection, sizing/dragging windows
[10:22] <gerhard> ich kein kein englisch
[10:22] <oslo>    By default, `make install' will install the package's files in`/usr/local/bin', `/usr/local/man', etc.; where is it on kubuntu ???
[10:23] <hydra__> i'm running kubunu, standard install under vmware
[10:23] <hydra__> with vmware tools installed
[10:24] <hydra__> problem doesn't seem to happen when using the live cd on my other machine here
[10:24] <hydra__> only under vmware
[10:24] <gerhard> >ardea>hi wie gehts dir
[10:25] <ardea> hi
[10:25] <Zerb_Riss> hydra__: it's probably just a VMware glitch
[10:25] <Zerb_Riss> I had that problem with VMware Server as well
[10:25] <hydra__> what can i do to fix it?
[10:25] <hydra__> i'm using "linux, order 2.6.x kernel" as the profile
[10:25] <hydra__> /s/order/other
[10:26] <Zerb_Riss> I dunno
[10:26] <Zerb_Riss> I stopped using VMware server when it couldn't handle real time well enough
[10:26] <gerhard> >ardea>bist noch da?
[10:27] <gerhard> hallo bin ich noch online?
[10:27] <gerhard> isch mir egal hihihihih
[10:27] <fdoving> !de
[10:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:28] <gerhard> ich habe keine probleme
[10:29] <Kydos> hmm, i quess i can get help here soo.. I'm installing Kubuntu with Windows aldready installed and i am getting stuck at installing kubuntu to hard disk.
[10:29] <Zerb_Riss> Kydos: stuck?
[10:29] <gerhard> >hydra> bist noch online?
[10:30] <gerhard> was isch des fr einen chat?
[10:31] <Kydos> well i've put use the largest Continous free space and instantly i get a error saying failed to partition. Then i start to install i get no root file system. and this is the actual part where i get stuck. at the detecting file systems.
[10:32] <Kydos> i've tried waiting 30+ minutes
[10:32] <gerhard> ich bin noch da, hi ist jemand da?
[10:32] <Kydos> not sure if i should wait longer =/
[10:32] <zorglu_> !de | gerhard
[10:32] <ubotu> gerhard: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:33] <gerhard> >zorglu> hi wie gehts dir?
[10:33] <Zerb_Riss> Kydos
[10:33] <Kydos> yes
[10:33] <Zerb_Riss> Kydos: You need to succeed partitioning in order to install the OS
[10:34] <Kydos> i quess i have to try the other options
[10:34] <gerhard> hi ana wie gehts dir
[10:34] <zorglu_> !de | gerhard
[10:34] <ubotu> gerhard: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:34] <zorglu_> gerhard: this is a channel where people speaks english
[10:34] <zorglu_> gerhard: #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de are the channel to speak in german
[10:34] <gerhard> now die is fr oll
[10:35] <bertu> how do i istall graphics drivers
[10:35] <zorglu_> |GaiJin|: looking
[10:35] <bertu> !ati
[10:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:36] <|GaiJin|> k... thanks....
[10:36] <gerhard> zorglu_ ju kenn german?
[10:37] <|GaiJin|> all I find are some really long threads with solutions for windows....
[10:37] <|GaiJin|> kennen wir nicht aller Deutch??
[10:37] <gerhard> hhh wie gehts dir?
[10:38] <Ash-Fox> Bloody hell, I've had it upto here with Russian, Polish, Chinese, Ukraine people contacting me on ICQ.. *grabs GAIM because Kopete without privacy settings is getting too much*
[10:38] <Dark-Vampire> !de
[10:38] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:38] <Kydos> How long does partitioning usually take?
[10:38] <foodcoman> Weeks.   =D
[10:39] <Kydos> >.>
[10:39] <gerhard> >hi wie gehts
[10:40] <foodcoman> gerhard: Enter:   /j #kubuntu-de
[10:41] <gerhard> ich habe auch den kanal betreten hihihihihihih
[10:42] <Zerb_Riss> !de > gerhard
[10:43] <intelikey> it's back
[10:43] <Kydos> Now i'm stuck on Partitioning =.=
[10:45] <zorglu_> |GaiJin|: still her e?
[10:45] <TheFuzzball> can someone help me with an mp3 problem with Amarok in kubuntu 6.10
[10:46] <oslo> after i done a make install, trying to launch the apps, /usr/local/kde/share/apps/kicker/applets/ftpmonitor.desktop , does this one can help me run ftpmonitor, 'cause i'm not finding how ???
[10:47] <|GaiJin|> jeah... I am... was just on the phone....
[10:47] <foodcoman> Only 54 nicks in the #kubuntu-de, but it looks like great help over there.  If I understood what they are saying.
[10:48] <zorglu_> [Mon Oct 23 2006]  [22:39:22]  <zorglu_> |GaiJin|: do 'cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max' and give me the result
[10:48] <zorglu_> [Mon Oct 23 2006]  [22:41:09]  <zorglu_> |GaiJin|: additionnaly do 'cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr' and give me the result too
[10:49] <intelikey> oslo if you have installed a source package the command should be in the path same as with a .deb package...  just type "ftpmonitor" in a konsole and see what happens
[10:49] <|GaiJin|> 127724....on the first
[10:49] <|GaiJin|> 4344    0       127724 on the second
[10:49] <eigenvalue> TheFuzzball : i guess a more specific question would produce some feedback..
[10:51] <zorglu_> |GaiJin|: this say that you got 4344 file open and may open up to 127724...
[10:51] <Hydra> oh great...  install of kubuntu "finished", i rebooted "disk boot failed, press enter"
[10:51] <Hydra> what no bootloader?
[10:51] <Hydra> how hard is it to get linux installed these days, christ
[10:51] <|GaiJin|> why would it tell me that I have to many??
[10:51] <zorglu_> |GaiJin|: i dont understand how you can reach the limit with this numbers
[10:51] <TheFuzzball> eigenvalue: yea, sorry :), the problem is that when I run amarok normally when I try and play(import to playlist) an mp3 file it comes up with an error saying "Mo mp3 support" and gives me the option of installing it, then it crashes :)
[10:52] <|GaiJin|> Hydra: not hard
[10:52] <zorglu_> |GaiJin|: btw put my nick in the sentence when you are talking to me
[10:52] <TheFuzzball> eigenvalue: but if I run it as root it works fine
[10:52] <Hydra> first it doesn't support raid-0, then i go get a brand new emtpy hdd, partition it how i want it using the installer, continue with the install, i'm told to reboot
[10:52] <|GaiJin|> zorglu_: I know... sorry
[10:52] <TheFuzzball> eigenvalue: "No Mp3 Support"* sorry
[10:52] <zorglu_> |GaiJin|: no problem
[10:52] <Hydra> linux still has a long way to go, it's even regressing a little with issue likes this, I installed linux before without such issues..
[10:52] <Hydra> *sigh*
[10:52] <zorglu_> |GaiJin|: how many torrent did you have to get more than 127k file open ?
[10:53] <intelikey> hydra only hard if you don't let the installer do exactly what it wants too        but deviating from the default is a pain with the graphic installer.....
[10:53] <zorglu_> |GaiJin|: this means 127000 peers :) your bandwidth cant handle that much :) :)
[10:53] <Hydra> btw, you get a "1_n: pixels" message on the advanced mouse options when the value/slider is set to "1"
[10:53] <Dr_willis> PEBKAC :)
[10:53] <Hydra> someone forgot the localization string for english, lol
[10:54] <intelikey> hydra linux has no where to go.  it doesn't want to be Windows (R)
[10:54] <Hydra> intelikey, i should be able to partition my drives and have the installer work
[10:54] <Hydra> at the very least!
[10:54] <|GaiJin|> don't have that many, but I guess it will figure out of itself....
[10:54] <oslo> intelikey i use a tar & ftpmonitor is not found, do you know where i could find a .deb ?
[10:54] <|GaiJin|> when something get finished, it will be avail for others
[10:54] <Hydra> even windows 3 did that ;)
[10:55] <Dr_willis> I partition my drives and tell the installer where to mount them...
[10:55] <intelikey> hydra yes. i said the ubuntu gui installer is KRAP !   but you can partition your drive/s with cfdisk and then start the installer....
[10:55] <Dr_willis> or i just leave them unallocated and let the installer do all it.
[10:55] <eigenvalue> Fuzzball, dunno what this could mean, but i had an similar problem whisch occured after using skype
[10:56] <TheFuzzball> eigenvalue: maybe restarting/updating or something will fix it :)
[10:56] <intelikey> Dr_willis yeah that's almost the only thing the ub installer can get right. is if you let it do everything default....
[10:58] <eigenvalue> TheFuzzball are you using skype? the version, 1.3053 fixed my problems (the older used only /dev/dsp and didn't support alsa), and restarting skype & amarok helped..
[10:58] <Dr_willis> It is sad the sad state of these installers these days.. :)
[10:58] <zorglu_> eigenvalue: the recent skype uses alsa ?
[10:58] <eigenvalue> yepp
[10:59] <Dr_willis> about time
[10:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:59] <zorglu_> :)
[10:59] <TheFuzzball> eigenvalue: I don't use Skype, I don't even think I have it installed
[11:00] <Hydra> how do i install grub on the bootsector of my hd via the live cd ?
[11:00] <intelikey> well imo the writers have tried their dead level best to make the installer a hands off app.  problem is that most linux users wont accept a hands off installation  and most windows users don't know there is any other kind.
[11:00] <LjL> Hydra: grub-install --root-directory=/mount/point/for/your/HD/   should do
[11:01] <intelikey> so if you make it idiot proof they will just make a better idiot.
[11:01] <Dr_willis> we need a installer that has an irc client.. connects to the "#ubuntu-Installer" room to help people out. :)
[11:01] <intelikey> lol
[11:01] <cpk2> hrmm trying to figure out how to open .swf sites, got tons of swf but still dont know what to do =\
[11:01] <intelikey> Dr_willis i hope not.
[11:01] <dvayanu> hi gurus
[11:01] <LjL> wouldn't be hard to add that feature. not sure it's *desired* ;-)
[11:01] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  have them open with firefox
[11:02] <Dr_willis> LjL,  thats what i did with Gentoo. :)
[11:02] <dvayanu> i have a question on memtest86+ which came with my ubuntu installation
[11:02] <Dr_willis> emerged irssi first. then the rest of the stuff
[11:02] <zorglu_> cpk2: mplayer is able to read them if they are video
[11:02] <dvayanu> can it test 4Gb of ram?
[11:02] <cpk2> i will try mplayer, firefox immeadiatly closes when i try opening it with ff
[11:02] <zorglu_> dvayanu: no, give me 3gbyte :)
[11:03] <dvayanu> zoglu_: nice try :-)
[11:03] <eigenvalue> TheFuzzball ok: the point was in the braces: maybe some software (my case: skype) used /dev/dsp directly.. that caused my problems. if thats not the case & reinstalling the mp3 codecs doesn't help, maybe you have to ask in #xine
[11:03] <cpk2> mplayer doesnt work either =\
[11:03] <dvayanu> if i just start it it tests just something, but i'm not sure what it does, if I select "from bios (all)" it starts throwing errors, if i select "probe" it sees only 2 gb
[11:03] <intelikey> maybe an installer that asks the first question "are you new to linux" if you say yes it dumps you to a fully automated (hands off) installer with a progress indicator.  but if you say no, it dumps you to a console with an installer script that will let you set the thing up the way you want it.
[11:04] <LjL> does anybody know of a - packaged or not - *serial* terminal program (think BBS) for KDE, or at least for GTK (hopefully not for Gnome though, i don't want the Gnome libraries)?  i'm not really too fond of minicom
[11:05] <zorglu_> dvayanu: http://www.memtest86.com/ give some info. not that i understand them :) very low level hardware stuff
[11:05] <intelikey> LjL telnet ?
[11:05] <Hydra> ljl, does that *just* install grub to the mbr ?
[11:05] <Hydra> or can i use the grub shell to do it?
[11:05] <LjL> intelikey, i said *serial*, as in RS232 :P and graphical. just like minicom in other words, but with a Qt/GTK interface
[11:06] <zorglu_> http://www.memtest86.com/#size <- dvayanu this one may be of interest
[11:06] <Dr_willis> minicom in a xterm is graphical. :)
[11:06] <dvayanu> zoglu_: currently reading... and it shows me that memtest showed expected behaviour
[11:07] <dvayanu> zoglu_: bios all is what i tried and what failed :-)
[11:07] <LjL> Hydra: it installs it on the MBR if you specify a device, it installs it on a partition if you specify a partition... but yeah, that's what it does. then you *are* supposed to have a /boot/grub/ directory in the place you point to with the "--root-directory" option
[11:07] <Dr_willis> http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=serial+terminal
[11:08] <Dr_willis> Komport
[11:08] <eigenvalue> TheFuzzball: if its a problem with the codecs itselfes (myabe some chmod-stuff with their directory) then u really have to ask someone who knows xine (i guess you are using the default engine)
[11:08] <LjL> Hydra: in other words, if my drive is /dev/hda, and my linux partition is /dev/hda1, and i have it mounted under /media/hda1, i would type "grub-install --root=directory=/media/hda1 /dev/hda" if i wanted it to install to the MBR
[11:08] <zorglu_> dvayanu: ok :) btw tab in konversation provides nicks completion :)
[11:08] <dvayanu> zorglu_: good to know :-)
[11:08] <dvayanu> zorglu_:  th
[11:08] <dvayanu> x
[11:09] <LjL> Dr_willis: oh, wow, there are a few. weird that not one of them managed to get into debian...?!
[11:09] <dvayanu> i think i will just swap the modules
[11:09] <Zerb_Riss> !repo komport
[11:09] <dvayanu> zorglu_: the kernel hangs if i enable 4 gb ram on the board
[11:09] <TheFuzzball> eigenvalue: indeed
[11:09] <Zerb_Riss> hmm
[11:09] <Dr_willis> LjL,  you expect me to know the minds of debian..  :)
[11:09] <Zerb_Riss> !commands
[11:09] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:09] <Dr_willis> go ask them
[11:09] <LjL> Zerb_Riss: that would be !info komport - but no, it's not there
[11:09] <Zerb_Riss> !info komport
[11:09] <zorglu_> dvayanu: i see...
[11:10] <ubotu> Package komport does not exist in any distro I know
[11:10] <eigenvalue> TheFuzzball: what???
[11:10] <Zerb_Riss> interesting
[11:10] <TheFuzzball> eigenvalue: maybe reinstalling libxine-extracodecs will help
[11:10] <dvayanu> zorglu_: however same kernel (2.6.19 rc2)runs perfectly with an intel board with same chipset (P965)... so its the RAM or the freaking ASUS board
[11:10] <Dr_willis> apt-cache search terminal | grep serial
[11:10] <intelikey> grub is kinda week why is it the default ?
[11:11] <Dr_willis> gtkterm - A simple GTK+ serial port terminal
[11:11] <LjL> Dr_willis: no, perhaps i won't... ;-P but seriously, i realize BBS's aren't used much nowadays, but heck, i've always considered a serial terminal part of the most basic applications that are usually available in a system...
[11:11] <Dr_willis> LjL,  i use serial terminals to get stuff to/from my amiga
[11:11] <Dr_willis> there are BBS's on the internet - and special programs to access them now a days also.
[11:11] <TheFuzzball> eigenvalue: I was saying that I was using the default engine
[11:11] <LjL> Dr_willis: and i use them to get stuff to/from my Psion. which, incidently, has a serial terminal built-in...
[11:11] <Dr_willis> kermit ! just go with kermit!
[11:12] <Dr_willis> actually i perfer minicom :)
[11:12] <LjL> Dr_willis, right now i'm just trying to make a USB/IrDA dongle i've bought work. and, really, minicom is... argh
[11:13] <LjL> CLI is ok with me. as long as it actually involves typing commands... when it involves using an interactive interface, it starts being less ok
[11:13] <Dr_willis> gee what more do ya really need.. set the rates/port - type aways
[11:13] <Dr_willis> echo "atdt 123454" > /dev/serial
[11:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:13] <LjL> yeah, except that doesn't really work. or works somtimes.
[11:13] <Dr_willis> +++ ath0
[11:14] <Dr_willis> I rember when that used to hang people up on irc.
[11:14] <Dr_willis>  Doh!
[11:14] <LjL> it probably still does if you have a modem
[11:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:14] <LjL> *my* modem does get hung up on that
[11:14] <Dr_willis> it was an interesting hack ages ago.
[11:14] <LjL> though you cannot really just type it on IRC... you have to craft a packet carefully =)
[11:14] <Dr_willis> its odd that  some how its seen by the modem even through the packets
[11:14] <LjL> no, it's not.
[11:14] <Dr_willis> LjL,  at one time i had a modem that WOULD hang up if someone typed it
[11:14] <maryen> +++ ath0
[11:15] <gaetano> #m
[11:15] <Dr_willis> atm1
[11:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:15] <Dr_willis> egads i am showing my age
[11:15] <Dr_willis> load *,8,1
[11:15] <LjL> Dr_willis: well, then perhaps you weren't using PPP with your ISP, but just a plain getty...?  because with PPP, data isn't in the clear, and you have to craft a packet that somehow *actually* sends the +++ath string on the wire
[11:16] <LjL> Dr_willis: and, besides, with most modems, if you *receive* a +++ath, you don't hang up -- you only do if you *send* one. which can be obtained using a ping, since computers are usually set to reply to pings
[11:16] <Dr_willis> it was ppp.  i rember researching it at the time. the 'issue' i recall was that some modems dident wait for a pause after the +++  and the command.
[11:16] <Dr_willis> this was like 8 yrs ago. :)
[11:17] <LjL> anyway, let's see if any of those very nice devs on freshmeat has been just *so* nice as to make a .deb package...
[11:17] <Dr_willis> Piffle! be a real man! :)
[11:18] <Dr_willis> Find a Java serial terminal program!
[11:18] <intelikey> jaba ja ja ja
[11:18] <LjL> !language | Dr_willis
[11:18] <ubotu> Dr_willis: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:19] <LjL> blah, only RPMs
[11:19] <eigenvalue> TheFuzzball: ok. and i think you said you tried everything. and if nothing helps, i guess you really need someone who can tell you where the codecs are and how to manipulate them manually: but that won't be me, sorry... just answered, because that skype stuff killed some of my nerves..
[11:19] <ianmacgregor> If someone has a minute, can you have a look at this thread please? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1653552
[11:19] <Dr_willis> !language | ubotu
[11:19] <ubotu> ubotu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:20] <intelikey> !botsnack
[11:20] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:21] <Dr_willis> !language | Spank Me Hard And
[11:21] <ubotu> Spank Me Hard And: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:21] <morghanphoenix> So, I just bought an nvidia mx4000 video card, how do I go about putting it in? Do I need to install the drivers first or should it detect the card and let me install the drivers in KDE after hardware installation?
[11:21] <Dr_willis> plug it in.. read the !nvidia bot factoid
[11:21] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[11:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:22] <Dr_willis> Be sure to power off. and unplug the be..befor plugging it in. :)
[11:22] <Dr_willis> the PC.
[11:22] <morghanphoenix> um, yeah, totally forgot about that part.
[11:22] <morghanphoenix> thanks
[11:22] <morghanphoenix> lol
[11:22] <Dr_willis> You would not BELIVE the TImes ive seen it done..
[11:22] <Hydra> LjL, ok, so it seems when using the boot cd grub sees my hd as hd2, when grub rubs from the boot loader it sees the drive as hd0
[11:22] <Hydra> *sigh*
[11:22] <Hydra> fixed now, but damn, that sucks a fat one
[11:23] <morghanphoenix> Somehow I don't find it that hard to believe.
[11:23] <Hydra> i also had to set the bios's hdd config to "large"
[11:23] <LjL> ianmacgregor: revelation = the KDE wallet. it's built in  /   xchat = konversation  /  firefox = konqueror  /  gnome baker = k3b  /   grip = kaudiocreator  /  gimp = krita  /  evolution = kmail (the program name is Kontact)  /  gaim = kopete  /  liferea = akregator (program name is Kontact)  /  rubrica = something in Kontact  /  glade = qt3-designer  /  screem = quanta, possibly
[11:24] <LjL> of course, only rough approssimations to what i *believe* the gnome programs do
[11:24] <intelikey> "/  gimp = krita  " ???
[11:24] <BonBonTheJon> LjL: isnt epiphany the gnome browser
[11:25] <LjL> intelikey: ok, we both know they aren't on the same level, but still it's the closest it gets
[11:25] <BonBonTheJon> the gimp is a great program
[11:25] <ianmacgregor> LjL: Thank you so much. What is this Kontact? Is it a full PIM?
[11:25] <intelikey> k
[11:25] <ianmacgregor> Sounds like a PIM
[11:25] <LjL> ianmacgregor: yeah... it's really just a shell for kmail, akregator and friends
[11:25] <ianmacgregor> LjL: Ahh, ok.
[11:25] <koli> hi all
[11:25] <BonBonTheJon> hi
[11:25] <LjL> ianmacgregor: i've got a screenshot of it (well, of a part of it) here http://ljl.byethost14.com/fakegnome.png
[11:26] <koli> how do i enable file sharing with windows and linux also
[11:26] <BonBonTheJon> !samba | koli
[11:26] <ubotu> koli: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:26] <ianmacgregor> LjL: Wowsers, I like it already
[11:27] <LjL> heh, well, you'll learn to hate it ;)
[11:27] <Hydra> omg, finally, it boots...
[11:27] <Hydra> 4 hours to get a working linux install..  nice
[11:27] <ianmacgregor> LjL: hehe
[11:27] <LjL> j/k, though i think it *is* a bit different from evolution or thunderbird, on the mail side
[11:27] <Hydra> not.
[11:27] <LjL> Hydra: took 20 minutes for me :P
[11:27] <zorglu_> Hydra: you were the one complaining a lot 20min ago, no ? :)
[11:27] <Hydra> not to mention the 7 i spent on sunday morning trying to get kubuntu to use dmraid on my raid-0 array
[11:28] <ianmacgregor> LjL: Yeah, I haven't touched KDE since Fedora Core 1 and it looks like it's come a long way.
[11:28] <intelikey> hydra you could have dl'd a floppy distro and dd'd the image to the hd and had a booting linux system in less than a minute.
[11:28] <Hydra> zorglu_, probably.  about kubuntu under vmware
[11:28] <Hydra> well, the instller didn't setup grub correctly on my system
[11:28] <intelikey> but you wouldn't have liked it either
[11:28] <Hydra> neither did it mention anything about having to set a bios option to "large" istead of "auto" for my hdd
[11:28] <LjL> ianmacgregor: for comparison, this is the way i've got my kde setup normally (that screenshot, as the name says, was just a quick attempt to make it look like gnome): http://ljl.byethost14.com/annotatedkde.png
[11:29] <koli> i cannot install samba with the command sudo apt-get install samba
[11:29] <intelikey> hydra it doesn't on my system either
[11:29] <Hydra> it's 2006
[11:29] <Hydra> lilo used to work
[11:29] <Hydra> why can't grub?
[11:29] <intelikey> lilo still works
[11:29] <Hydra> why isn't lilo used then, it works, grub doesn't
[11:29] <intelikey> idk
[11:29] <zorglu_> he is back again on complaining :)
[11:29] <Hydra> *sigh*
[11:30] <intelikey> i didn't do the choosing
[11:30] <Vincent_Burns> hello
[11:30] <zorglu_> winning wanna be :)
[11:30] <BonBonTheJon> koli: hold on I'll look up a tutorial
[11:31] <morghanphoenix> I miss lilo
[11:31] <intelikey> you can use lilo.  i do
[11:31] <koli> ok thnx BonBonTheJon
[11:31] <intelikey> or did you mean the nick morghanphoenix ?
[11:31] <cpk2> !info samba
[11:31] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2778 kB, installed size 7080 kB
[11:32] <morghanphoenix> I loved the graphical boot, had really nice themes for lilo.
[11:32] <cpk2> koli: well that should install samba
[11:32] <koli> i have an error about a dependency
[11:32] <BonBonTheJon> koli: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[11:32] <koli> and when i try installing it with adept it says BREAK (install)
[11:32] <cpk2> koli: then you should probably fix the dependency
[11:32] <morghanphoenix> grub just doesn't compare as far as eye candy goes, still, never had a problem with it not working.
[11:33] <cpk2> koli: maybe you should post the full error
[11:33] <cpk2> with pastebin
[11:33] <morghanphoenix> That's something that linux needs to help it replace windows, packages with all the deps in them.
[11:33] <intelikey> well my only complaint is that grub is too weak to boot a partitionless disk
[11:34] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: that would make some huge packages
[11:34] <intelikey> and i don't like grub, but that's hardly a complaint
[11:34] <cpk2> and alot of people wouldnt need all the deps in the package
[11:34] <koli> i get this
[11:34] <koli> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:34] <koli>   samba: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed
[11:34] <koli> E: Broken packages
[11:34] <morghanphoenix> Yup, not saying they should just have them, just that they should have them as an option.
[11:35] <morghanphoenix> And I seem to have radar for packages that depend on obsolete packages.
[11:35] <cpk2> koli: try sudo apt-get -f install
[11:35] <intelikey> yeah that should remove the partially installed samba
[11:35] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: the only problem I had pinpointing an obsoleted package was when it was in backports
[11:36] <LjL> morghanphoenix: grub *does* have themes though
[11:36] <koli> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:36] <morghanphoenix> Still haven't figured out that whole id thing.
[11:36] <cpk2> id thing?
[11:36] <ianmacgregor> LjL: How did you get those pinnable notes on your desktop? Which app is that?
[11:36] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, but not in 256 colors.
[11:37] <morghanphoenix> Something that's supposed to let me tell the new programs where the package is when it's not named what it's looking for.
[11:37] <LjL> ianmacgregor: knotes
[11:38] <LjL> ianmacgregor: it's there by default, Utilities menu
[11:38] <LjL> (no it's not a panel applet)
[11:38] <ianmacgregor> Oh? Cool
[11:38] <koli> cpk2?
[11:38] <koli> it says nothing to install update or updgrade
[11:38] <LjL> ianmacgregor: and *yes* you can change the colors :)
[11:38] <cpk2> you cant install samba after doing apt-get -f install?
[11:39] <ianmacgregor> :)
[11:39] <koli> no
[11:39] <intelikey> cpk2 i doubt
[11:39] <morghanphoenix> Finally got acidrip working perfectly, great little toy, beats thoggen hands down.
[11:39] <intelikey> !repos > koli
[11:39] <cpk2> still wondering how a samba install would break
[11:39] <cpk2> intelikey: they should all be in main
[11:40] <intelikey> cpk2 it looks like a repos issue to me
[11:40] <morghanphoenix> Of course it's using proprietary formats, some people don't much care for that.
[11:40] <VirteX> i'm back again... lol
[11:40] <VirteX> ok i'm going nuts... Grub freezes durring boot, just sits there no errors or anything, anyone know how to fix it ?
[11:40] <intelikey> maybe using the cd and updates main togather  or something
[11:40] <LjL> ianmacgregor: one little thing i'd suggest you try out (most people don't seem to know about it) is the "quick launcher" panel applet -- it's those icons i have just left of the app menus -- at a quick glance, it seems nothing more than a few app shortcuts put together. but if you go and configure it, you'll see it has a "smart" feature to keep track of what applications you use the most, and add/remove them from the list as appropriate
[11:40] <VirteX> tired multiple hard drives, tried kubuntu and ubuntu... :(
[11:40] <Hydra> ahh *sigh*
[11:41] <Hydra> nice to see dual monitor support not working...
[11:41] <LjL> ianmacgregor: (the trick to make it work is, after configuring it, right-clicking on every icon and unselecting "never remove automatically")
[11:41] <koli> how many repositories should i have?
[11:42] <intelikey> VirteX if it's actually grub try lilo  if it's the initrd.img build a new one maybe.
[11:42] <Vincent_Burns> many
[11:42] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, my new card is supposed to run a monitor and tv-out at the same time, wonder how that works in reality.
[11:42] <morghanphoenix> Think I should get a TV.
[11:42] <VirteX> intelikey: how do i install lilo from the kubuntu live cd onto my drive ?
[11:42] <intelikey> koli 3 or more.
[11:42] <cpk2> problem with tvs is that they interlace
[11:42] <morghanphoenix> It'd be really nice to have kaffeine going on a different screen
[11:43] <morghanphoenix> I haven't owned a tv in 15 years.
[11:43] <VirteX> lol
[11:43] <VirteX> my tv is in the closet
[11:43] <koli> can anyone give me a list of your repos????
[11:44] <intelikey> VirteX mount the hdd " sudo chroot /where/it's/mounted apt-get install lilo ;sudo  chroot /where/it's/mounted lilo  "
[11:44] <zorglu_> !source-o-matic | koli
[11:44] <ubotu> koli: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:44] <morghanphoenix> I've had tv input on my computers almost that long.
[11:44] <ianmacgregor> LjL: Oh, I will be trying the quick launcher :)
[11:45] <h_> !de
[11:45] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:45] <VirteX> intelikey: hehe ok, see what i can wreck :) kinda weird it's doing it with multiple drives :( i was gonna install gentoo and see what it does, but i'll try lilo first
[11:45] <intelikey> VirteX but between the two commands you might want/need to edit /where/it's/mounted/etc/lilo.conf     man lilo for more on that.
[11:45] <VirteX> yea
[11:45] <morghanphoenix> Any ideas why copying things from one drive to another takes so long? I started a 30GB transfer five hours ago and it's at 43%
[11:46] <cpk2> koli: you probably want the main universe and multiverse repos
[11:46] <Chousuke> hmm
[11:46] <Chousuke> morghanphoenix: no DMA enabled? :P
[11:46] <ianmacgregor> LjL: What about Synaptic in Ubuntu? Is there a KDE equivalent for that?
[11:47] <cpk2> ianmacgregor: adept
[11:47] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, dma is enabled, not sure about external devices though.
[11:47] <LjL> ianmacgregor: about the applications i left out (because i didn't know off hands) : meld = kompare, or kdiff3  /   grisbi = kmymoney2  /   gftp = kftpgrabber i suppose  /  easytag = kyamo or kid3, but then amarok, juk and friends also have tag editing (amarok can fetch from musicbrainz)
[11:47] <intelikey> VirteX grub depends on bios to read the disks/partitions lilo doesn't  if grub is truely the problem it's probably bios related  i.e. drive specs not correct
[11:47] <LjL> ianmacgregor: Adept. it's not very similar, and, from what i can gather, not much liked
[11:47] <morghanphoenix> Looks like I'm averaging 100 KB/s
[11:48] <Chousuke> that's snail's pace.
[11:48] <Chousuke> most internet connections are faster nowadays. :D
[11:48] <ianmacgregor> LjL: Ok
[11:48] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, it'll jump up to 2 megs, but then it's drop to around 6k
[11:48] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: are you transfering via usb?
[11:48] <morghanphoenix> Yes
[11:48] <cpk2> probably usb 1.0
[11:49] <morghanphoenix> USB 2.0
[11:49] <Chousuke> USB should still be able to transfer about 30MB/s
[11:49] <LjL> ianmacgregor: there used to be a Kynaptic, but it's been deprecated i believe
[11:50] <VirteX> intelikey: Installing Lilo now, well see if this fixes the issue... i just really don't wanna run windows lol
[11:50] <morghanphoenix> Maybe it's ext3 to fat32?
[11:50] <morghanphoenix> Can that be a problem?
[11:50] <intelikey> VirteX where there's a will there's a pinguin.
[11:51] <Chousuke> morghanphoenix: shouldn't be.
[11:51] <LjL> [23:37]  <morghanphoenix> Something that's supposed to let me tell the new programs where the package is when it's not named what it's looking for. <---- what did you mean? have you been answered? are you asking "i have a file, i want to know what package it is from"?
[11:52] <morghanphoenix> No, I have a package that depends on an obsolete one and I have then new version of the dep which isn't named the same as the old one.
[11:52] <intelikey> LjL or possably the more common question "where did dpkg put blah?"
[11:52] <LjL> !equivs | morghanphoenix
[11:52] <ubotu> equivs: Circumvent Debian package dependencies. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.6-0.1 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 132 kB
[11:52] <morghanphoenix> Some library that's been updated and it's name's been changed.
[11:52] <LjL> morghanphoenix: that might help
[11:53] <Dr_willis> apt-file is a handy program to use for some of that stuff.
[11:53] <morghanphoenix> I remember what it was, libogm!
[11:54] <morghanphoenix> slipped my mind there for a seccond
[11:54] <intelikey> or that.
[11:54] <VirteX> intelikey: rebooting... see if this works :)
[11:55] <drbeams> what comand do i need to do a dpkg something -a to recover from apt-get crash
[11:55] <intelikey> --configure
[11:56] <drbeams> k, i was missing one of the -
[11:56] <drbeams> however, it tells me it is locked
[11:56] <Dr_willis> Egads - does Map Quests map scrolling  around work well for anyone?
[11:56] <drbeams> do i reboot ?
[11:56] <intelikey> no
[11:56] <Dr_willis> its like 10 secs to scroll one way.. then it scrolls 5 times
[11:56] <intelikey> close anything using a package manager
[11:56] <morghanphoenix> is there a command to kill all processes?  In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5 (dapper), package size 9 kB, installed size 76 kB
[12:00] <virtex> intelikey: welll booted from the hard drive... any idea how to make it dot he fancy graphical start up from lilo ?
[12:00] <Dr_willis> lilo dont do fancy :)
[12:00] <intelikey> virtex it's all in the man pages
[12:00] <kubuntu> intelikey: Slay?
[12:00] <morghanphoenix> Look at some of the lilo themes on kde-look, I call those fancy.
[12:00] <intelikey> kubuntu it's an app
[12:01] <virtex> k, i'll find it :) the fancy is from linux not from lilo is it not ? the the blue kubuntu start up thing
[12:01] <Zerb_Riss> virtex: yes
[12:01] <morghanphoenix> You mean kdm?
[12:01] <virtex> the lilo i installed has a graphical menu just after you pick what to boot it does the oldschool text where kubuntu is loading everything
[12:02] <kubuntu> intelikey: it seems to be useless
[12:02] <intelikey> daskreech i haven't tried it.  just knew of the app in the packages
[12:03] <intelikey> it probably requires sudo
[12:03] <MadRabbit320> cpk2 thanks for helping w/my sources the other day
[12:03] <cpk2> unless you are the user
[12:03] <daskreech> intelikey: it says a users processes. So I can use it on myself?
[12:03] <cpk2> MadRabbit320: no problem, everything working now?\
[12:03] <intelikey> cpk2 yeah or it's set suid so users can slay root.....
[12:04] <intelikey> lets hope not
[12:04] <MadRabbit320> cpk2 everything "I" can figure so far
[12:04] <cpk2> but slay cpk2 as cpk2 should work
[12:04] <intelikey> daskreech what part of "i've never used it" did you miss ?
[12:04] <morghanphoenix> Supposed to be some way to bypass sudo passwords for a user, I wanna figure that one out.
[12:05] <intelikey> back i a bit.
[12:06] <MadRabbit320> cpk2: except for 2nd hd, icoutils, a few visual tweaks excluded, that is...
[12:06] <cpk2> MadRabbit320: was kmag something you were looking for?
[12:06] <cpk2> and why wont your second hard drive work?
[12:07] <MadRabbit320> cpk2: can't move my sound files into /usr/share/sounds though
[12:08] <morghanphoenix>  /usr is owned by root in kubuntu, isn't it?
[12:09] <Basic_py> is there a network install of kubuntu, so I don't have to download 700M iso image?
[12:09] <morghanphoenix> three days left 'till edgy, you can dist-upgrade to it, yes?
[12:09] <MadRabbit320> cpk2: there were only 2 repositories available to me upon install. y, kmag; "nice". 2nd hd all greek to me
[12:09] <morghanphoenix> I'm out of cd-rs
[12:10] <Kr4t05> morghanphoenix: You've been able to since Flight 1. :P
[12:10] <Kr4t05> !upgrade
[12:10] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes