[07:15] <mahmoodesk> hi
[07:16] <mahmoodesk> i am a new user of xubuntu
[07:20] <mahmoodesk> hi
[07:20] <mahmoodesk> hello
[07:21] <mahmoodesk> سلام
[07:49] <gnrp> mahmoodesk: hi
[07:49] <gnrp> arabic or persian? ;)
[07:59] <mahmoodesk> iran , pars
[17:20] <amerigena> 4.14 can't be built from source on 18.04 because GTK version issues, correct?
[17:32] <Spass[m]> amerigena: can't answer your question, but if you're looking for an easier way to get 4.14 on 18.04 use this PPA https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/staging
[17:34] <amerigena> ok
[17:37] <amerigena> I will try that


[06:36] <sveinse> Does upstart stop and start services is specific order when a condition change? I'm hoping that it's ensuring that all stopping services are indeed stopped before it starts new services.
[06:37] <sveinse> My case is two conflicting services running in two different runlevels, and I want to ensure that the stopping one is stopped prior to starting the other when changing runlevels (and I cannot make them depend on each others with "on stopped")
[14:27] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - im trying to write an upstart script for a program which i need multiple instances of. What ive done is ive written a script which loops through the config files and starts on instance per config file, then monitor that in my script. upstart run (and monitors) myscript, but its starting dozens of instances of my program
[14:28] <Super_Cat_Frog> but when i run my startup script it runs the correct number (2)
[14:28] <Super_Cat_Frog> any ideas? my guess is that upstart thinks my script isn't running, and dies, but it has an infinate loop checking th epids, and only terminates when a pid dies using if [ -z $pid ]
[14:33] <Super_Cat_Frog> ah, my script is terminating, perculiar
[14:33] <Super_Cat_Frog> ignore me


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[09:31] <Laney> is libvpx going to get migrated today?
[09:32] <Laney> We have the new GNOME update prepared in a silo and I didn't want to entangle it with ongoing stuff in proposed
[09:32] <Laney> also, why was ffmpeg/armhf a badtest? http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/f/ffmpeg/eoan/armhf doens't make it look so
[09:33] <Laney> cyphermox:
[10:02] <doko> component mismatches are out of date, last run yesterday afternoon
[10:02] <doko> cjwatson: ^^^ where would I have to look?
[10:03] <cjwatson> ubuntu-archive@snakefruit, almost certainly stale process following router maintenance
[10:03] <cjwatson> though I don't see one
[10:04] <cjwatson> of course it's possible somebody cleared it just before I looked, so wait a bit I guess
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[14:05] <cyphermox> Laney: to unblock stuff; libvpx, ffmpeg et al. ffmpeg rebuilt to the previous version (was 4.1.4, we reverted that) still segfaults in the sbc codec
[15:16] <vorlon> cyphermox: and then I re-copied the 4.1.4 ffmpeg and hinted it since it was the same failure
[15:16] <vorlon> so now it's a candidate
[15:17] <cyphermox> great
[15:18] <vorlon> Trying easy from autohinter: anope/2.0.6-1build2 apophenia/1.0+ds-7ubuntu1 apr-util/1.6.1-4build1 argus-clients/1:<IP_ADDRESS>-5 asterisk/1:16.2.1~dfsg-2build1 bacula/9.4.2-2ubuntu2 baresip/0.6.1-1build2 cacti-spine/1.2.2-1build1 cl-sql/6.7.0-1.1build2 coturn/<IP_ADDRESS>-1.1build1 courier-authlib/0.69.0-2build2 cppdb/0.3.1+dfsg-8ubuntu1 ctn/3.2.0~dfsg-6build2 cvm/0.97-0.1build2
[15:18] <vorlon> cyrus-sasl2/2.1.27+dfsg-1build2 dbf2mysql/1.14a-5.1build2 double-conversion/3.1.5-2 dovecot/1:<IP_ADDRESS>-5ubuntu2 emboss/6.6.0+dfsg-7ubuntu1 evqueue-core/2.1-1build2 exim4/4.92.1-1ubuntu1 ffmpeg/7:4.1.4-1build1 gambas3/3.13.0-1ubuntu1 gammu/1.40.0-1build1 gdal/2.4.2+dfsg-1build1 gearmand/1.1.18+ds-3build3 gentle/1.9+cvs20100605+dfsg1-8 gerbera/1.1.0+dfsg-3build2 gnokii/0.6.31+dfsg-2ubuntu9
[15:19] <vorlon> gnuais/0.3.3-8build2 gnunet/0.10.1-5.1build2 gnustep-sqlclient/1.8.1-3build4 godot/3.0.6-2build1 grass/7.6.1-3build1 gst-plugins-bad1.0/1.16.0-2ubuntu2 gst-plugins-good1.0/1.16.0-2ubuntu2 handbrake/1.2.2+ds1-1build1 hoel/1.4.8-4build2 http-parser/2.9.2-2 hydra/9.0-1build1 icinga2/2.10.5-1build1 insighttoolkit4/4.12.2-dfsg1-4ubuntu10 inspircd/2.0.27-1ubuntu2 isc-kea/1.5.0-2ubuntu1
[15:19] <vorlon> jabberd2/2.7.0-1build2 kamailio/5.2.3-1build2 kannel/1.4.5-3ubuntu1 kannel-sqlbox/0.7.2-5build2 kdb/3.1.0-5build3 kodi/2:17.6+dfsg1-4ubuntu4 kopanocore/8.7.0-3build1 lcd4linux/0.11.0~svn1203-2build3 lcgdm/1.13.0-1 libapache-mod-log-sql/1.100-16.3build2 libapache-mod-musicindex/1.4.1-3build2 libdbd-mariadb-perl/1.11-3ubuntu1 libdbd-mysql-perl/4.050-2build1 libdbi-drivers/0.9.0-6ubuntu2
[15:19] <vorlon> libgda5/5.2.8-1build3 libgit2/0.27.7+dfsg.1-0.2build1 libheif/1.5.0-1build1 libodb-mysql/2.4.0-5ubuntu1 libopendbx/1.4.6-13build3 libpreludedb/4.1.0-2ubuntu5 libreoffice/1:6.3.0-0ubuntu1 libterralib/4.3.0+dfsg.2-11build2 libtoxcore/0.2.10-1build1 libvpx/1.8.1-2 libzdb/3.1-0.2ubuntu1 lua-dbi/0.7.2-1ubuntu1 lua-sql/2.3.4-1build2 lyricue/4.0.13.isreally.4.0.12-0ubuntu3 mailutils/1:3.6-1build1
[15:19] <cyphermox> wrong window?
[15:19] <vorlon> mediastreamer2/1:2.16.1-4ubuntu1 minieigen/0.50.3+dfsg1-8build1 motion/4.2.2-1build1 mydumper/0.9.5-1build2 mysql-8.0/8.0.16-0ubuntu3 mysql-connector-c++/1.1.12-4ubuntu1 mysql-ocaml/1.2.1-1ubuntu1 mysqltcl/3.052-3build2 mysqmail/0.4.9-10.2build2 mythtv/2:30.0+fixes.20190817.5cde0578d8-0ubuntu1 ntopng/3.8+dfsg1-2.1build3 ocserv/0.12.2-3build1 opendnssec/1:2.1.3-3build1 opensips/2.2.2-3.1build1
[15:19] <vorlon> opensmtpd-extras/5.7.1-4build2 orthanc-mysql/2.0-2build2 pam-mysql/0.8.0-1ubuntu3 pdns/4.1.6-3build1 perdition/2.2-3.1 pike8.0/8.0.702-1build1 pmacct/1.7.2-3build1 poco/1.9.2-3ubuntu1 postfix/3.4.5-1build1 postfix-gld/1.7-8build1 proftpd-dfsg/1.3.6-6build1 pure-ftpd/1.0.47-3build1 purple-matrix/0.0.0+git20180325-1build2 pvpgn/1.8.5-2.1build1 python-httptools/0.0.11-1.1
[15:19] <vorlon> python-mysqldb/1.3.10-2ubuntu1 qsf/1.2.7-1.3build3 qt4-x11/4:4.8.7+dfsg-7ubuntu3 qtbase-opensource-src/5.12.4+dfsg-4build1 qxmpp/1.0.0-4build1 redland/1.0.17-1.1build1 rmysql/0.10.17-2 rsyslog/8.1901.0-1ubuntu3 ruby-dataobjects-mysql/0.10.16-2ubuntu4 ruby-http-parser.rb/0.6.0-4build2 ruby-mysql2/0.5.2-1ubuntu2 sludge/2.2.2-2build1 slurm-llnl/<IP_ADDRESS>-1build1 soci/3.2.3-2ubuntu3 sope/4.0.8-1
[15:19] <vorlon> sphinxsearch/2.2.11-2build1 stardict/3.0.6-0.2build1 tang/7-1build1 tango/9.2.5a+dfsg1-2build2 tarantool-lts/<IP_ADDRESS>.g1687c02-1build2 tcpflow/1.5.2+repack1-1build1 tntdb/1.3-4build1 trafficserver/8.0.3+ds-4 trojan/1.12.3-1build1 ulogd2/2.0.7-1build1 utox/0.17.0-1build2 virtualbox/6.0.10-dfsg-5 vlc/3.0.8-2 voms-mysql-plugin/3.1.7-2build1 vtk6/6.3.0+dfsg2-2build7 vtk7/7.1.1+dfsg1-12build2
[15:19] <vorlon> w1retap/1.4.4-3ubuntu1 x265/3.1.1-2 xine-lib-1.2/1.2.9-1build3 zabbix/1:4.0.4+dfsg-1build1 zoneminder/1.32.3-2build1
[15:19] <vorlon> only a few things broken by it
[15:19] <vorlon> :)
[15:19] <cyphermox> yeah
[15:20] <cyphermox> I was wondering if you were copy-pasting in the wrong window suddenly
[15:20] <cyphermox> update-output-helper is usefulish
[15:20] <vorlon> my irc client has built-in protections against me accidentally doing massive pastes
[15:20] <vorlon> so you know that when I do it it's because I'm being a jerk
[15:21] <cyphermox> heh
[15:21] <cyphermox> I've been copy-pasting the list that goes under that in my terminal, hoping to not wrongly paste in IRC
[15:23] <cyphermox> vorlon: fyi, not ffmpeg/libvpx but grr was removed from testing, seems like a good candidate for removal. it needs lots and lots of love, more like a major update
[15:23] <vorlon> qtwebengine-opensource-src at the root of a lot of it
[15:25] <vorlon> ah.  it's because x265 got reuploaded, and the ffmpeg I synced back hadn't been rebuilt against the new libx265.
[15:25] <vorlon> gonna play some silly archive tricks again to pick up 4.1.3-1build1 again which /was/, then reupload 4.1.4
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[15:27] <cyphermox> uh, wow
[15:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.0.0-1015.15~18.04.1] (kernel)
[15:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe [arm64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.0.0-27.28~18.04.1] (kernel)
[15:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-1015.15~18.04.1]
[15:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-27.28~18.04.1]
[15:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-27.28~18.04.1]
[15:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gke-5.0 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-1015.15~18.04.1]
[15:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-27.28~18.04.1]
[15:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.15.0-1041.43]
[15:51] <vorlon> Laney: do you know why we have a non-empty autopkgtest queue for cosmic/arm64?  I guess we should just manually flush those?
[17:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: r-bioc-qusage [amd64] (eoan-proposed/universe) [2.18.0-1] (no packageset)
[17:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: r-cran-fitdistrplus [amd64] (eoan-proposed/universe) [1.0-14-2] (no packageset)
[17:13] <vorlon> any time the armhf queue would like to drain would be just fine
[17:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-bioc-qusage [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [2.18.0-1]
[17:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-cran-fitdistrplus [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [1.0-14-2]
[17:25] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: do you know what the prognosis is for the ghc transition?  I see haskell-hashable is incompatible with the new version and needs sourceful changes and that this holds up a lot of stuff
[17:41] <teward> vorlon: question of curiosity, during FF are NEW packages still considered?
[17:41] <teward> or are they 'frozen' i.e. barred as well?
[17:41]  * teward doesn't know the answer hence asking
[17:41] <vorlon> teward: they're not "frozen", they just tend to be a low priority
[17:42] <vorlon> focus tends to be on taking all the stuff stuck in -proposed already and squeezing it through the sausage grinder
[17:43] <teward> makes sense
[17:45] <teward> vorlon: thanks
[17:45] <wxl> on that subject, are there any particular special policies surrounding new packages or do they just get treated like any normal upload?
[17:46] <wxl> this is probably what i'm looking for, eh? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[17:46] <vorlon> no special policies
[17:46] <vorlon> new packages tend to be "safe" because you can't regress what wasn't there
[17:46] <wxl> XD
[17:46] <vorlon> but again, low priority
[17:46] <wxl> ok thanks!
[17:51]  * vorlon sees more qt4 stuff going through process-removals, wonders when we'll be done
[17:53]  * RikMills feels it has no end
[17:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: lubuntu-update-notifier (eoan-proposed/primary) [0.1]
[17:54] <teward> vorlon: probably 'never' ;)
[17:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: r-cran-seurat [ppc64el] (eoan-proposed/universe) [3.0.2-1] (no packageset)
[17:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: r-cran-seurat [s390x] (eoan-proposed/universe) [3.0.2-1] (no packageset)
[17:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: r-cran-seurat [i386] (eoan-proposed/universe) [3.0.2-1] (no packageset)
[17:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: r-cran-seurat [amd64] (eoan-proposed/universe) [3.0.2-1] (no packageset)
[17:57] <RikMills> I'm hoping it can all be gone for the next LTS, but past hopes have come to naught
[17:58] <RikMills> at least all qt4 is now off the Kubuntu iso!
[17:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: r-cran-seurat [armhf] (eoan-proposed/universe) [3.0.2-1] (no packageset)
[17:59] <teward> vorlon: i know it's on the low priority queue but Lubuntu wants that lubuntu-update-notifier lol
[18:00] <vorlon> RikMills: well, I just assigned you a bug about an Ubuntu-specific revdep that you can decide what to do with, to help the process along :)
[18:00] <teward> somehow i've been coopted into multiple dev teams xD
[18:00] <vorlon> heh
[18:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: r-cran-seurat [arm64] (eoan-proposed/universe) [3.0.2-1] (no packageset)
[18:01] <RikMills> vorlon: I just got the email
[18:01] <RikMills> plasma-mediacenter is dead as a dodo
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-cran-seurat [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [3.0.2-1]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-cran-seurat [armhf] (eoan-proposed) [3.0.2-1]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-cran-seurat [ppc64el] (eoan-proposed) [3.0.2-1]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-cran-seurat [arm64] (eoan-proposed) [3.0.2-1]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-cran-seurat [i386] (eoan-proposed) [3.0.2-1]
[18:01] <vorlon> RikMills: subscribe ubuntu-archive, turn it into a removal bug, and I'm happy to oblige
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-cran-seurat [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [3.0.2-1]
[18:08] <RikMills> vorlon: done
[18:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted thrift [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0.11.0-4ubuntu2]
[18:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted thrift [i386] (eoan-proposed) [0.11.0-4ubuntu2]
[18:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted thrift [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [0.11.0-4ubuntu2]
[18:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted thrift [armhf] (eoan-proposed) [0.11.0-4ubuntu2]
[18:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted thrift [ppc64el] (eoan-proposed) [0.11.0-4ubuntu2]
[18:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted thrift [arm64] (eoan-proposed) [0.11.0-4ubuntu2]
[18:18] <vorlon> I feel like 'geneatd' should be the name of an atd implementation that used ml to train its parser for NLP
[20:00] <RikMills> past convention says feature freeze is NOW
[20:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gcc-9-cross-ports [ppc64el] (eoan-proposed/universe) [9ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[21:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-9-cross-ports [ppc64el] (eoan-proposed) [9ubuntu1]
[21:18] <tsimonq2> vorlon: Ready for one big "just axe literally all of Qt 4" request? :P
[21:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gnuradio [s390x] (eoan-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-2] (no packageset)
[21:23] <vorlon> tsimonq2: probably not, as those become unwieldly to manage bug tasks on?
[21:23] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[21:23] <tsimonq2> I'll just convert existing "please port to Qt 4" to "remove pls"
[21:23] <vorlon> right, that's probably reasonable
[21:24] <tsimonq2> vorlon: Let's just say I've already tried the "let's put it all in one bug" approach...
[21:24] <tsimonq2> Somehow I managed to do it.
[21:25] <seb128> don't do that please, it spams to no end people subscribed to any of the component even if the thing they care about is fixed
[21:26] <tsimonq2> seb128: I know now.
[21:26] <tsimonq2> Early 2018 tsimonq2 did not.
[21:26] <seb128> or if it's not fixed they get the spam/comments/activity for any of the others
[21:26] <tsimonq2> We're on the same page :)
[21:26] <seb128> good :-)
[21:28] <teward> archive admins: reject lubuntu update notifier please from NEW
[21:28] <teward> Blame Simon
[21:28] <teward> I am gonna drag him out back later.
[21:28] <tsimonq2> heh
[21:29] <teward> And deal with him later.
[21:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gnuradio [amd64] (eoan-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-2] (no packageset)
[21:29] <tsimonq2> teward: My point to you was not that it's bad, it was that uploading something to NEW that I had an outstanding review on before I had a chance to review changes wasn't particularly collaborative.
[21:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected lubuntu-update-notifier [source] (eoan-proposed) [0.1]
[21:30] <teward> That could have been directed privately simon
[21:30] <teward> Rather than a call out here.
[21:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnuradio [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-2]
[21:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnuradio [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-2]
[21:30] <tsimonq2> teward: Well, you did publicly ask for a reject :)
[21:30] <teward> Thanks for the rejects AAs.
[21:31] <teward> tsimonq2: rejects yes.  Callout about why?  No.
[21:31] <teward> Common Courtesy applies here
[21:31] <teward> And that was failed by you
[21:31] <teward> E:NotHappy
[21:32] <tsimonq2> Let's not get into it here.
[21:32] <teward> Agreed.  We’ll shoot each other in PM :P
[21:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gnuradio [ppc64el] (eoan-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-2] (no packageset)
[23:30] <tsimonq2> vorlon: axing Qt 4> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2019-August/040783.html emailed :)
[23:41] <vorlon> well, apparently reverse-depends lied to me about src:rust-num-traits
[23:41] <vorlon> because virtual packages?
[23:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: util-linux (disco-proposed/main) [2.33.1-0.1ubuntu2 => 2.33.1-0.1ubuntu3] (core)
[23:50] <Eickmeyer> vorlon, tsimonq2: Not sure, but saw two reverse deps on that list you emailed. I know one of them is likely carla, so I could probably fix that and upload since the project was ported to Qt 5 some time ago. Of course, I'm not 100% sure that's the hangup.
[23:51] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: Please do ASAP.
[23:51] <Eickmeyer> vorlon, tsimonq2: Additionally, I definitely don't have any idea where the hangup is in ubuntustudio-publishing, so that will require some time looking through the seed, unless there's a faster way.
[23:52] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: The transition tracker will update with a Qt 4 removal tracker Soon, that should show you which level it's at.
[23:52] <tsimonq2> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/
[23:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: util-linux (bionic-proposed/main) [2.31.1-0.4ubuntu3.3 => 2.31.1-0.4ubuntu3.4] (core)
[23:53] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: ack
[23:54] <vorlon> scribus
[23:55] <tsimonq2> vorlon: You wouldn't happen to know offhand if the transition tracker is hourly cron, would you?
[23:55] <vorlon> I would not
[23:55] <tsimonq2> ack
[23:59] <Eickmeyer> vorlon, tsimonq2: Yikes. scribus is synced from Debian, so it needs to be dealt with there.


[00:13] <nicolaEdison> Hello everyone. I was wondering if there was someone here I could talk to about joining the community.
[00:13] <knome> why not start talking...? :)
[00:14] <nicolaEdison> Ah. Well I was wondering more about the dev/packaging/bugfix realm, and the website seems to suggest that I should meet people in the group and they could help me figure out a good place to start.
[00:14] <nicolaEdison> (The website was a bit confusing)
[00:15] <knome> you probably want to join #xubuntu-devel in that case :)
[00:15] <nicolaEdison> Ah, thanks knome.
[00:16] <nicolaEdison> So, do a lot of people come here asking about *NIX problems?
[00:16] <knome> a steady flow (though we have #xubuntu-offtopic for the general chatter -- see, it's ALL very confusing :P)
[01:27] <h8flash> Hi! Is it possible to get the latest flash (23 beta) working so it can play pogo.com games?
[01:43] <Unit193> AaronRaimist[m]: That should be fixed btw.
[02:53] <micah848> hej there
[02:55] <micah848> did everyone upgraded to 16.10 already?
[03:07] <nuxil> each time i put in a dvd movie, parole autostarts. how do i turn that off?
[03:21] <KingsQuest> is there a dock you can use with the latest xubuntu ?
[04:08] <rajivmars> I have just installed xubuntu 16.04. what i am seen after installation is that the plumouth splash screen is not showing up during boot. During boot only blank screen splashes. How to get the plymouth splash screen showing during boot?
[04:32] <rajivmars> is anyone there?
[05:43] <phenom> Has anyone noticed problems with chromium-browser, potentially others causing runaway processes and crashing the system on 16.04?
[05:45] <phenom> If I leave chromium or vivaldi running with tabs open, it eats all memory and I can't restart the process, if I can even kill it without it freezing the system entirely. Appears there is a vicious memory leak somewhere.
[05:55] <rajivmars>  have just installed xubuntu 16.04. what i am seen after installation is that the plumouth splash screen is not showing up during boot. During boot only blank screen splashes. How to get the plymouth splash screen?
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[07:50] <sorinello_> what the ...
[07:50] <sorinello_> ethernal september
[09:23] <AppAraat> I wish. IRC usage has been declining in favor of stuff like Slack and Discord(??)
[09:52] <Rounin> So... Why don't I get 16.10, even when running update-manager -d and do-release-upgrade -d
[12:39] <XfceUser> hello.
[13:48] <xubuntu35d> hello!
[13:50] <akxwi-dave> hi
[13:51] <xubuntu35d> i am trying to install DNI Electronico Ubuntu 15.04 but i dont know which version of the paquet
[13:52] <xubuntu35d> it is ubuntu?
[13:52] <xubuntu35d> DNI Electronico Ubuntu 15.04 work in xubuntu
[13:52] <xubuntu35d> ?
[13:53] <akxwi-dave> You may be best looking here..  http://chapuboot.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/dni-electronico-ubuntu-1504.html
[13:54] <akxwi-dave> if it works on standard ubuntu, it probably will work on Xubuntu..
[13:54] <xubuntu35d>  Descargamos el Software para Ubuntu 14.04 versión 32 o 64 bits de la página del DNIe En mi caso he descargado la versión 1.2.2 para 64 bits.  MD5:  c3c03ac83f7c86155d9c59ac774ab3b2       libpkcs11-dnie_1.2.2_Ubuntu_14.04_14.10_64bits.deb
[13:55] <xubuntu35d> there is a lot of versions of ubintu
[13:55] <xubuntu35d> ubuntu
[13:55] <xubuntu35d> i dont know which i use
[13:56] <akxwi-dave> which version xubuntu do you have installed
[13:57] <xubuntu35d> where can look it??
[13:57] <xubuntu35d> sorry!!
[13:59] <xubuntu35d> i new
[13:59] <akxwi-dave> type  uuname –a      in the terminal
[14:00] <akxwi-dave> uname –a
[14:00] <akxwi-dave> sorry
[14:00] <akxwi-dave> do you see x86_64 in there
[14:02] <xubuntu35d> i am installing something
[14:02] <akxwi-dave>  if you do you need the 64bit version...  if not you need the 32bit
[14:02] <xubuntu35d> i dont have sudo apt install uucp
[14:02] <xubuntu35d> uuname –a
[14:02] <akxwi-dave> uname -a
[14:03] <akxwi-dave> only the u
[14:04] <xubuntu35d>  i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:04] <xubuntu35d> could be this?
[14:05] <xubuntu35d> Linux mari0-IMEDIA-5225 4.4.0-41-generic #61-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 27 17:30:08 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:07] <xubuntu35d> i have fron here
[14:08] <xubuntu35d> https://www.dnielectronico.es/PortalDNIe/PRF1_Cons02.action?pag=REF_1112
[14:08] <xubuntu35d> i have to choose one distribution
[14:14] <xubuntu35d> hepl
[14:17] <tmsbrg> xubuntu35d, looks like specific Linux versions made by Direction General de la Policia? I don't know why you need those, but I'd direct questions to them. We only really know regular Xubuntu, from https://xubuntu.org/
[14:19] <tmsbrg> also if you want to talk to some Spanish people about Ubuntu you can probably do that at #ubuntu-es
[14:36] <AppAraat> what is the recommended method of installing a xubuntu minimal desktop on an ubuntu minimal install?
[14:38] <xubuntu30d> i am tryimg to install DNI Electronicobut i dont know which kind of version of xubunto I have and I have to choose one fron this web pag https://www.dnielectronico.es/PortalDNIe/PRF1_Cons02.action?pag=REF_1112
[14:42] <akxwi-dave> AppAraat:  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-core^       (make sure you add the ^ )
[14:42] <akxwi-dave> as per https://xubuntu.org/news/introducing-xubuntu-core/
[14:43] <AppAraat> ah I see, thanks. I'm going to try this.
[14:43] <akxwi-dave> good luck.. :-)
[14:44] <AppAraat> thanks, during the minimal install Software selection I ticked "Xubuntu minimal desktop" and it failed to install, so then I tried to `apt install xfce4` but that didn't go flawless either. So now I'm going to try this.
[14:48] <akxwi-dave> try    sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[14:48] <AppAraat> wouldn't that also install all of the apps and whatnot though?
[14:49] <AppAraat> I just want the slimmed down version of Xubuntu without the apps.
[14:50] <akxwi-dave> thats true, but if the core version isn't working, it maybe easier just to uninstall the one you don't want..  :-)
[14:51] <AppAraat> ah yes for sure, luckily I'm just trying it on a VM (snapshots rule!) :p
[14:51] <akxwi-dave> :-)
[15:18] <xubuntu50i> lk
[15:23] <AppAraat> akxwi-dave: it appears that it worked! Thanks so much!
[15:28] <akxwi-dave> any time
[17:56] <KingsQuest> hello all
[17:56] <KingsQuest> i am using xubuntu 16.10
[17:56] <KingsQuest> i cannot browser our internal network
[17:56] <KingsQuest> through thunar
[17:57] <KingsQuest> to try and remedy this i made my /etc/hosts to the following.  <IP_ADDRESS>	localhost.localdomain localhost
[17:57] <KingsQuest> <IP_ADDRESS>	ASUS
[17:58] <KingsQuest> it now says timeout reached and doesn't show our internal network.  i assume its the internal ip address.  of 1.150
[17:58] <wawa> KingsQuest, why you use 16.10? why not stable 16.04?
[17:58] <wawa> oh wait is 16.10 already out?
[17:58] <KingsQuest> yes its a distribution release
[17:58] <KingsQuest> just not LTS
[17:59] <KingsQuest> for some reason i am unable to browse network shares
[17:59] <wawa> KingsQuest, did you try gigolo?
[17:59] <KingsQuest> my google doesn't show very many 2016 for anything.  isn't that peculiar for something that has to rely on correctness ?
[17:59] <KingsQuest> i have not tried gigolo
[19:10] <xubuntu34w> hello!
[19:12] <xubuntu34w> i just installed compiz on xubuntu 16.04, i did the compiz --replece command, but with the compiz the window manager is Adwaita, how can i put the Greybird?i installed the gnome-tweak-tool and while i choose the greybird still have the Adwaita as window manager...how to solve this?
[19:12] <xubuntu34w> thanks in advance!
[19:13] <xubuntu34w> can someone tell the step to fix!!!
[19:14] <redblade> hi, was thinking of installing fresh xubuntu 16.10 this weekend, but was wondering about the thunar fixes
[19:14] <redblade> it says there are patches applied, but not fixes
[19:14] <redblade> i dont know exactly what that means
[19:14] <redblade> currently using dolphin4
[19:16] <akxwi-dave> the patches solve alot of the problems.. but not in all cases..
[19:17] <redblade> so renaming and deleting does still occasionally crash?
[19:17] <akxwi-dave> if you have any thunar problems that can't be dealt with you may want to look at a different file manger..  howver for myself thunar han
[19:17] <akxwi-dave> hasn't had any of the probs
[19:18] <akxwi-dave> for some yes
[19:18] <akxwi-dave> but a lot a
[19:18] <akxwi-dave> rarer now
[19:18] <redblade> ok
[19:18] <redblade> thank you
[19:18] <akxwi-dave> like i said that bug has never affected me on vm's or hardware
[19:20] <redblade> also, do things go wrong with xubuntu "upgrades", that i should do a fresh install?
[19:21] <redblade> i never do "upgrades" with windows, they always turn into disasters, and with linux, i always did fresh installs
[19:22] <redblade> was a slackware person for years, then went to mint xfce, then realized there was no point in mint xfce and started with xubuntu when 16.04.1 came out
[19:22] <redblade> and you usually do fresh installs with slackware, which rarely has version upgrades
[19:23] <redblade> but has anyone here had success/updates with the "upgrading" process from 16.04.1 to 16.10?
[19:23] <redblade> s/updates/failure
[19:25] <akxwi-dave> for me personally.. I've only ever had on failure. However that was on a test rig, that had been used for QA testing... I hve done many that have been fine..
[19:26] <akxwi-dave> This laptop I'm on at moment started with 14.04 and havs been upgraded thru each of the release.. with np probs
[19:27] <akxwi-dave> i would say back up stuff 1st before any upgrade....
[21:12] <V7> Do you know how to change nvidia resolution to the correct one if there is no correct one
[22:05] <AppAraat> anyone knows how to install Kwin on Xubuntu properly? It didn't quite work as expected. When I go to tty1 or tty2 and do `kwin --replace` it says "kwin: FATAL ERROR while trying to open display" - install log if anyone's interested: http://ix.io/1wai
[22:22] <genii> Try it from within an X terminal instead
[22:22] <Unit193> Alt+F2, kwin --replace
[22:23] <genii> or that
[22:24] <AppAraat> Unit193: that resulted in that error, however running it in the terminal did turn kwin on, but it doesn't run very smoothly lol - http://ix.io/1wau
[22:29] <knome> well, kwin isn't the lightest out there
[22:30] <AppAraat> also not the least segfaulty :p
[22:31] <Unit193> AppAraat: Are you seeing that wonderfully wild screen flickering?
[22:34] <AppAraat> yep, then the windows get the kwin decorations, but I can't get window manager settings to appear when launched from the xfce menu.
[22:35] <AppAraat> so I guess I'll have to muck around in the CLI, or just accept the fact that kwin in Ubuntu repos is not the latest and see if I can install xfce-core on KDE Neon without too much borking.


[09:07] <Ratok> So I am done checking with the jitter problem, all programs either produce audio or video lag with full hd streams, is this a known issue and how can I log the data needed for debugging?
[10:09] <SirColin> can somebody outside the uk please ping my server for me <IP_ADDRESS> the data center is telling me it's a uk problem ?
[10:09] <Zinn> [<IP_ADDRESS>] Welcome to the Frontpage
[10:10] <SirColin> wow
[10:38] <SirColin> i think my provider was trying to say the problem was in the uk
[13:18] <Abo> Hi All, I need help with a "No UPnP backend" error, followed by a can't login error. I've check mysql.txt and my.cnf. I have checked the logs: Mysql error log I don't understand (http://pastebin.com/vGFvCwTq), mythbackend.log "can't read mysql.txt" mysql is fine IP the same as on mythtv-setup, same as ifconfig ouput (trying to post my backend log on paste bin. Please help I am using Mythbuntu 10.04. I don't know how to get (command) the
[13:22] <Abo> I found this post among many (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=726680) deleted some logs and still no joy.
[13:22] <Zinn> [ubuntuforums.org] [SOLVED] No UPnP backends found - Ubuntu Forums
[15:15] <mrand> Ratok: in theory, just launch  mythfrontend -v  "playback,important,general"    Then only do what is necessary to see the behavior, then exit.  submit /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log to launchpad
[17:02] <Abo> Hi All, mysql wont start, see error.log (http://pastebin.com/VMs4QBG6), please help.
[21:20] <tmkt> afteroon
[21:21] <tmkt> morning elsewhere


[01:15] <wgrant> mdeslaur: A six-hourly cronjob removes the files from the on-disk pool, but they're removed from indices during each standard publisher run. It's likely the latter you care about.
[01:17] <wgrant> mdeslaur: Though, in some edge cases, if you deleted during a build you might have to redelete the source (+delete-packages, filter for Superseded).
[01:18] <mdeslaur> wgrant: oh! yeah, they're still showing up there, thanks for the hint


[00:56] <ildefonso> VolUTFan, I ran on encrypted hard drive, basically, luks with LVM on top, for a long time.
[00:57] <ildefonso> but I have not used Re-Linux, could you explain what does it do?
[01:05] <VolUTFan> let me see if I can find some information on it for you
[01:05] <VolUTFan> not sure if it will work for luks LVM
[01:07] <VolUTFan> https://relinuxkit.wordpress.com/page/3/  there is a lot of information out on the internet about re-linux but here is a starter
[01:08] <VolUTFan> basically whats its for..  You build your distro the way you want it and it works somewhat like norton/symantec ghost and it builds an image/iso file
[03:19] <MichaelTunnell> so I have been an Arch user for a very long time and I typically have been a GNOME user on Arch. With that said, I've been doing a KDE challenge to try out KDE on a long term test. It has been a month now and I kind of love it.
[03:19] <MichaelTunnell> I even made KDE look and work like GNOME - https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/2wwylh/kde4_converted_to_a_gnome3_style_workflow_please/
[03:19] <MichaelTunnell> that is crazy impressive
[03:20] <MichaelTunnell> so KDE on Arch has become volatile and messy so I am considering leaving Arch, I just wanted to come here and thank you all for making Kubuntu
[03:20] <MichaelTunnell> I'm 99% sure I'm going to move to Kubuntu
[03:31] <steven__> asdf
[03:32] <corruptcore> Hi people
[03:32] <corruptcore> somebody say something
[03:33] <corruptcore> ?
[03:38] <MichaelTunnell> corruptcore: what is the point of asking people to say something rather than just asking your question or what you need?
[03:38] <corruptcore> i was just wondering if anyone even used this
[03:39] <corruptcore> there's 252 people on the nick list none of which are talking or anything
[03:39] <corruptcore> ...
[03:43] <remline> MichaelTunnell, interesting article you posted on reddit. I will have to give Kupfer a try.
[03:48] <Guest73321> remline: is that not similiar to GNOME Do
[03:57] <VolUTFan> Im in here, but was working on a project
[05:26] <markc> MichaelTunnell: I'm the same, love Archlinux PKGBUILDs and AUR but AL is too volatile for a server so I decided to standardise on ubuntu server and kubuntu desktop instead about a year ago.
[10:20] <xrlabs> hey guys, if i want to set my IP Address to 192.168.20.x, to I have to change the nameserver too?
[11:35] <jubo2> Hello, hello and thank yous for the great OS
[11:36] <jubo2> My clock is in UTC even as I've set the timezone properly in the settings
[11:36] <jubo2> The clock in the lower right-hand corner
[11:36] <jubo2> says 11:36 UTC
[11:36] <jubo2> I don't want to know what the time is in UTC but what it is in Helsinki
[11:39] <yossarianuk> jubo2: assuming you are using kde4.x
[11:39] <yossarianuk> -> right click on the clock -> adjust time+date
[11:40] <yossarianuk> 'time  zone' tab -:> search for helsinki
[11:43] <jubo2> yossarianuk: Helsinki is set as the timezone there
[11:43] <jubo2> yossarianuk: but the clock still says UTC and shows UTC time
[11:45] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:53] <dcorbin> what apt command can I use to find out what version of a package will be installed?
[11:55] <serverhamster> jubo2: Hover with the mouse over your clock and try the mouse wheel.
[11:56] <jubo2> serverhamster: thanks
[11:56] <jubo2> serverhamster: now the time shown is "local"
[11:57] <serverhamster> You're welcome :-)
[14:19] <Anoniem4l> Greetings everyone, I am trying to install kubuntu on Windows 7 (dual boot) with the .iso image I downloaded (from the official website). I tried running it as administrator and this error doesn't go away: http://pastebin.com/UZPZdn8y
[14:26] <lordievader> Anoniem4l: You need to burn the iso to a disc or create a live-usb and boot from it.
[14:26] <Anoniem4l> lordievader: but I have installed dual-boot inbefore without doing that.
[14:27] <lordievader> Anoniem4l: That was likely Wubi. Wubi is something that should just die.
[14:31] <Anoniem4l> lordievader: ok then, thank you for your input..
[14:31] <lordievader> In case you couldn't tell, I dislike Wubi.
[14:31] <lordievader> A lot.
[14:32] <lordievader> Anoniem4l: Anyhow, checkout http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[14:32] <Anoniem4l> Well, it proved quite useful in the past.
[14:32] <Anoniem4l> Saved me time from backup'ing my USB's contents and writing stuff into it...
[16:19] <VolUTFan> what exactly is ubiquity
[16:21] <OerHeks> Ubiquity is a simple graphical live CD installer
[16:51] <home_> hi
[17:10] <VolUTFan> OerHeks: Thanks for the clarification.  I am trying to figure out the ReLinux package
[17:10] <VolUTFan> OerHeks: honestly I am not sure if relinux is even going to work at this point, its way outdated, but giving it a spin
[17:16]  * VolUTFan ***Enjoying my first cup O' Coffee for the day.  Mmmm good :)
[17:26] <VolUTFan> where would these 2 files reside in the directory tree isolinux.bin and vesamenu.c32
[17:27] <lordievader> Sounds like pxe things.
[17:30] <VolUTFan> pxe?
[17:32] <lordievader> VolUTFan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preboot_Execution_Environment
[17:33] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Or it is isolinux: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/ISOLINUX
[17:33] <VolUTFan> its for the relinux app..  deb-amd64 http://ppa.launchpad.net/relinux-dev/testing/ubuntu quantal main  ---- Honestly, I may be barking up the wrong tree.  This package could very well be broke under utopic, but.... you never know.  I am just playing with it right now to see if I can generate a live ISO of my current distro with all of my apps on it.  The only thing I can find thus far in /var/log/relinux.log is that the /usr/
[17:33] <VolUTFan> lib/syslinux is missing those 2 files and the log says I need to copy those files to that directory.  In this case, I checked and they are in fact, not there.
[17:34] <VolUTFan> honestly im not sure..  but the file says isolinux.bin, so I am guessing isolinux
[17:34] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Unpack the iso, replace the squashfs, pack iso?
[17:35] <lordievader> VolUTFan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[17:35] <VolUTFan> brb in a second..  browswer is freaking out for some reason after last run of the relinux
[17:43] <VolUTFan> lordievader: Gotta tell ya.  relinux is spazzing Kub out.  Browser acted like there was no internet connection, 404's, then I logged out, hung keyboard and mouse.  No control at all, had to hit the power button and cold shutdown.  2nd time thats happened with relinux..  Hmmm LOL
[17:43]  * VolUTFan thinks --- oh well, the price of testing
[17:43] <lordievader> VolUTFan: If you get 404's your internet connection is fine.
[17:44] <lordievader> Else you would get a 'could not make a connection to the server' error.
[17:48] <VolUTFan> it doesn't say 404, it was try again on every load
[17:48] <VolUTFan> it was like something was hung
[17:48] <VolUTFan> no worries now after reboot
[17:54] <VolUTFan> lordievader: I installed the isolinux package to get the isolinux.bin.  now how to find that file?  I tried locate isolinux.bin (no result), locate i*.bin (no result), locate .bin ( didn't see it here either..mostly firmware )
[17:54] <VolUTFan> any other ideas of where to look for that file
[18:18] <VolUTFan> lordievader: I talked to one of the guys in dev channel, and he recommended the package apt-file.  sudo apt-get install apt-file.  syntax apt-get search filename
[18:19] <VolUTFan> works like a charm to find files on the system.  it indexes all of your repos and locates the location and the package it belongs to
[18:22] <VolUTFan> time to give re-linux another spin now.  expecting a lockup again LOL
[19:05] <lordievader> VolUTFan: I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish. Isolinux is a bootloader, typically found on live-cd's/usb's.
[19:05] <lordievader> And yes, apt-file is nice :D
[19:06] <VolUTFan> lordievader: in the end thats what I am trying to do.  Relinux takes your installed distro, all of your packages, custom settings, etc, and turns it into a live iso that you can inturn burn or usb
[19:52] <host127> the question is, why someone is blocked when begins to show true codes?
[19:53] <lordievader> host127: Err, what?
[19:53] <host127> yes why someone is blocked when begins to show true codes?
[19:54] <lordievader> host127: What are you talking about?
[19:54] <lordievader> host127: Do you seek Kubuntu support?
[19:54] <host127> someone was blocked on #ubuntu after show to all people, that fstab is manipulated to forbid permissions on vfat usb disks
[19:55] <bprompt> eh?
[19:55] <bprompt> host127:     you mean they got a +b from a channel op?
[19:56] <bprompt> not that that is OS relevant btw
[19:56] <host127> i want to know why someone is blocked when begins to crash the false argument used by ubuntu developers that "vfat on linux have not permissions"?
[19:57] <lordievader> host127: The channel operator who banned him likely got a good reason for doing so. That said, this is not the channel to disscuss such matters.
[19:58] <host127> how the blocked person contact the "channel operator" if he is blocked?
[19:59] <bprompt> hmm
[19:59] <lordievader> host127: If you find it unjust, #ubuntu-ops is the channel.
[19:59] <bprompt> actually I find some of the #ubuntu ops are just dogmatic and zealots, some are reasonable though
[20:00] <host127> lordievader: you know that all ubuntu release are comming by default, with blinded usb disk mount packages?
[20:01] <bprompt> host127:     well, the claiim is that he was "crash the false argument used by ubuntu devs", the assumption being that that claim has any feasible ground, which for all we know, is someone just venting out, for which I could see a ban on that, depending on behaviour to go about it
[20:02] <lordievader> host127: I do not understand your question...
[20:02] <host127> lordievader: ; bprompot:  you tried to remount some pendrive in exec mode with read/write
[20:02] <bprompt> s/he was/ he began/
[20:02] <bprompt> host127:     no myself
[20:04] <host127> bprompt: try to mount by defaults some disk in your ubuntu distro and create a simple .sh file, exzecute this .sh file, and finally say to me what happened
[20:05] <bprompt> hmm
[20:05] <lordievader> host127: This will not work, you haven't set the execute flag.
[20:05] <bprompt> host127:     I've done -> mount -o remount, rw /  <--- in recovery mode, works fine for me
[20:05] <gesker> trying out 15.04 beta 2. Seeing some keyboard lag that wasn't in 15.04 alpha 1. Any hints on what/where I can check to get responsiveness back?
[20:06] <lordievader> gesker: Vivid support is in #ubuntu+1
[20:06] <host127> bprompt: please, pay atemption now
[20:06] <bprompt> hehhe
[20:06] <bprompt> well then, I can see why "someone" got a +b
[20:06] <host127> bprompt: maintain your usb disk mounted like you done, and now try create a new folder
[20:07] <gesker> thanks lordievader. I'll ask there. BTW kubuntu 15.04 looks like it's going to be a slam dunk. it's really nice.
[20:07] <bprompt> host127:     my liveusb?  hmm well.... I have a 4gb one, with 1gb persistent data, but it mounts just fine, I don't have to do any remounts
[20:07] <lordievader> gesker: \o/
[20:08] <host127> bprompt: use another usb disk
[20:08] <host127> bprompt: and remount -o rw and try create a mew file
[20:08] <bprompt> host127:    if it ain't broken, don't fix it, methinks, so, mine is working, no need to get another as far as I can see
[20:09] <host127> bprompt: you are liyng or you don't know onwhere i want to come
[20:09] <bprompt> host127:   either way, if you found a bug, ubuntu.com has a area to file a bug, thus, file away, and give all the relevant details, so they could be addressed
[20:10] <bprompt> hhehe
[20:10] <host127> bprompt: is not a bug, they won"ty answer,
[20:10] <bprompt> well then, I can see why "someone" got a +b   <----
[20:11] <host127> bprompt: you can see? they are abfuscating who show the true?
[20:11] <host127> bprompt: you can see? they are obfuscating who shows the true?
[20:12] <lordievader> host127: Could you try to describe clearly the problem you are facing. I have been following your entire conversation and I do not understand what the problem is.
[20:12] <bprompt> host127:    you may well  be correct, but no need to prosecutorial or gleeful, casting aspersions is not very conducive to address what may well be a plausible claim
[20:13] <bprompt> s/to/& be/
[20:13] <host127> bprompt: you can see? they are abfuscating who show the true?
[20:13] <host127> bprompt: you can see? they are obfuscating who shows the true?
[20:13] <host127> censoring who shows that they are liars with proofs
[20:14] <lordievader> host127: This doesn't help anyone. Please describe your problem clearly.
[20:14] <host127> lordievader: you tried to mount a vfat disk on your ubuntu with all permissions like windows do?
[20:15] <bprompt> host127:    I dunno myself, since I haven't done it or trample on it yet, you may be correct, but, I'd say, file it away as some bug, rather than call folks names or cast all kinds of accusations without any solid bases
[20:16] <host127> lordievader: in root or non-root mode
[20:17] <host127> lordievader: don't waste your time, all ubuntu forums is lost, all that they has written about this is lie
[20:18] <lordievader> host127: This is not a problem description. What are you trying to do, what should happen and what happens?
[20:19] <host127> lordievader: i am done, i treid, now i am done, meaning to know all ubuntu"s users opinion
[20:19] <host127> about vfat permissions on ubuntu like windows
[20:20] <lordievader> I still don't understand. And I don't think I will ever. Good luck, host127.
[20:20] <host127> lordievader: i am running varios softwares in windows and linux via usb vfat disk
[20:21] <host127> when the linux discovered that im am portabling all the linux softwares, they decided to censor all releases to forbid executables on usb fats
[20:22] <host127> lordievader: now the linux foundation are fooling all the world saying: "vfat have not permissions"
[20:23] <host127> lordievader: i am now on chatzilla in seamonkey portable on a live usb kubuntu
[20:23] <lordievader> host127: That is untrue. Most live-usb's are fat32.
[20:23] <lordievader> And yes. FAT filesystems do not have the Unix permission model.
[20:24] <host127> lordievader: i wasted 7 years to scan onwhere i have to edit to return my pendrive in exec,rw mode forever, i discovered , i done, and now i am asking. but appears that the ubuntu don't likke portability
[20:25] <lordievader> host127: You can execute files from a fat32 usbstick just fine.
[20:25] <host127> lordievader: i said permissions like windows, example: if i set read-only to any file, the linux will set to read only
[20:25] <bprompt> hmm 7 years.... that's about 14 kubuntu versions ago, two per year
[20:25] <host127> lordievader: i know that i execute files on usb disk
[20:26] <lordievader> Hrmm, I still have no real idea of what the problem is. Forget it.
[20:26] <host127> bprompt: i ever used usb with no problems untill 9.04 release
[20:28] <host127> by default today, in some linux, if i try set a file to read only, the system ignores
[20:28] <host127> bprompt: i found a mount -o remount rw,exec and tried this too
[20:29] <bprompt> host127:   I think you could use a nice hot cup of chamomille tea
[20:29] <host127> bprompt: but if i set -o remount rw,exec, the filesystem is not rw, is ro
[20:30] <host127> some of 2 things, if i mount with exec mode, the filesystem won't mount in rw together
[20:30] <host127> the search around 7 years, was on some more i need to reedit in fstab, amd i found and have proof using now
[20:31] <host127> i found and have proof using now
[20:31] <host127> my usb disk fat32 now is mine
[20:32] <host127> bprompt: all those ubuntu forums don"t explains what i"ve done
[20:33] <OerHeks> On ntfs/vfat with umask=000 all your files will be executable
[20:33] <host127> i at least i won't explain in public local because they will search any strategy to brake me again
[20:33] <host127> :D
[20:34] <bprompt> OerHeks:    that's the default case, he's just venting out
[20:34] <host127> OerHeks: i tried this without sucess
[20:34] <BluesKaj> not much point, don't think he's reading the responses
[20:34] <host127> OerHeks: in kubuntu the prompt saysa "umask= unknow option"
[20:35] <OerHeks> bprompt, i know, he was ranting in #ubuntu too
[20:37] <host127> OerHeks: executable is not the problem, the problem is: executable, readable, writeable to ge ther
[20:38] <host127> OerHeks: after exec,rw setter in permissions independently if i am root or not because the disk is not a part of linux
[20:42] <host127> the linux don't like portables, because somday they said: "because we are open source, binaries will never trouble us" :D
[20:43] <host127> i don't understand, on microsoft windows, i never had any kind of troubles, (only with macafee and avasat) that i remember
[20:45] <host127> OerHeks: if you want to be propietary of all your fat32 disks on linux. i will send to you the fstab line with a tutorial via email (encrypted mail) okey?
[20:48] <host127> OerHeks: it's important set files to read only on vfat disk because linux system, have backdoors like i found on android to : (for example) delete dowloads from youtube...
[20:48] <Bundestrojaner> good evening.
[20:48] <Bundestrojaner> a few weeks ago, the installation of flahsplugin-installer with apt-get failed. Now i get (evertime i boot my kubuntu) a lightbulb-symbol in the "task bar". When i klick it, it says the download of files failed and i shall reinstall flash-plugin installer.
[20:48] <Bundestrojaner> i tried to reinstall it, atm it is removed, but it always appears again. how can i remove this anoying msg?
[20:49] <host127> Bundestrojaner: uninstall flash installer
[20:49] <Bundestrojaner> host127: you mean apt-get remove flashplugin-installer?
[20:49] <host127> Bundestrojaner: after this, download the libflashplayer.so and install manually
[20:50] <lordievader> That is a really bad idea.
[20:50] <host127> Bundestrojaner: the flash-plugin is considered evil on all linux
[20:50] <Bundestrojaner> i know
[20:50] <Bundestrojaner> host127: i don't even need flash anymore - at least not this long outdated version.
[20:50] <lordievader> Bundestrojaner: Reinstall the flashplugin-installer package, indeed.
[20:51] <Bundestrojaner> as i said, i reinstalled it, removed it,...
[20:51] <Bundestrojaner> but the msg still appears when i boot
[20:51] <host127> Bundestrojaner: okey uninstall: apt-get remopve --purge flash-support
[20:51] <host127> Bundestrojaner: okey uninstall: apt-get remove --purge flash-support
[20:52] <lordievader> Bundestrojaner: Does it actually mention the flashplugin installer? Could you pastebin the entire message?
[20:53] <host127> Bundestrojaner: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer
[20:53] <host127> http://askubuntu.com/questions/43050/uninstalling-flash-plugin-completely
[20:54] <Bundestrojaner> lordievader: yes, it mentions flashplugin-installer.
[20:54] <Bundestrojaner> of course i can pastebin it, but my system language is german...
[20:54] <host127> Bundestrojaner: sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-installer use --purge to force
[20:54] <lordievader> Bundestrojaner: Go ahead, I can a (little) bit of german.
[20:54] <krooyh> hi, I have question, is there some magic kay combination that do something with desktop, like I work and suddenly i loose 3/4 of my open windows, desktop switches a bit (place of icons)
[20:54] <krooyh> key*
[20:56] <Bundestrojaner> lordievader: this is the exact msg in english: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2134888
[20:57] <host127> Bundestrojaner:http://askubuntu.com/questions/43050/uninstalling-flash-plugin-completely
[20:57] <krooyh> I even have one of those windows in "alt+tab" but I cant switch to it
[20:57] <host127> Bundestrojaner: http://askubuntu.com/questions/43050/uninstalling-flash-plugin-completely
[20:59] <lordievader> Bundestrojaner: Did you try what is suggested in post #9?
[20:59] <Bundestrojaner> host127: i've run your command (--purge), it said it removed it
[20:59] <host127> Bundestrojaner: http://askubuntu.com/questions/43050/uninstalling-flash-plugin-completely
[20:59] <lordievader> Bundestrojaner: #13 might be applicable to your situation too.
[21:00] <Bundestrojaner> lordievader: i did "sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer"
[21:00] <Bundestrojaner> i don't need this flash-plugin anymore
[21:00] <host127> Bundestrojaner: Good decision :D
[21:00] <Bundestrojaner> i'm just anoyed by this msg every startup
[21:00] <Bundestrojaner> for the rare situations i need it, i use chromium with it's built-in flash
[21:01] <host127> Bundestrojaner: Good decision :D
[21:01] <Bundestrojaner> and it is even the latest version, not a version from ~2008?
[21:01] <host127> Bundestrojaner: but install manually
[21:01] <Bundestrojaner> host127: install manually what?
[21:01] <host127> the firefox installation directory have a folder called "plugins"
[21:02] <host127> if dont have, create and copy the libflashplayer.so to there, and reboot firefox
[21:02] <host127> on chrome installation is the same because chrome browser is mozilla based
[21:02] <host127> :D
[21:04] <host127> Bundestrojaner: nobody needs the plugin-installer only we all need is a simple script that copies the .dll on windows or the .so file on linux to the directory of the browser installation.
[21:05] <host127> Bundestrojaner: if someday you need the flashplayer again, find on google for linux libfleshplayer.so
[21:05] <Bundestrojaner> i don't get it. the ubuntu wiki says, the latest flash-version is only available for chromium and chrome
[21:05] <host127> Bundestrojaner: if someday you need the flashplayer again, find on google for windows NPFSW.dll
[21:05] <Bundestrojaner> the version flashplugin-installer downloads is years old
[21:06] <host127>  libflashplayer.so
[21:07] <host127> 3 venon things to firefox and chrome: 1- flashplugin , 2-plugin container , 3-auto-update
[21:08] <host127> Bundestrojaner: you rebooted your system and the message still stays or not?
[21:09] <bprompt> Bundestrojaner:   yeap
[21:09] <bprompt> Bundestrojaner:     installing a chromium browser, like say opera 28, comes with flash plugin 15, same for google chrome
[21:09] <Bundestrojaner> host127: i didn't check it yet. but apt-get remove --purge said, it removed it
[21:10] <bprompt> Bundestrojaner:    hmm, he's been venting out for the last 3hrs or so
[21:10] <Bundestrojaner> bprompt: flashplugin-installer installs 11.2
[21:11] <bprompt> Bundestrojaner:   yes
[21:15] <host127> Bundestrojaner: http://askubuntu.com/questions/43050/uninstalling-flash-plugin-completely try do this manually
[21:15] <Skeletbossen> Hi
[21:20] <bprompt> allo
[21:47] <Skeletbossen> Hi
[21:48] <bprompt> allo again
[21:48]  * bprompt wondering is Skeletbossen  is just a "Hi" bot
[21:49] <Skeletbossen> Hehe I was just testing, Had some trouble registering
[21:51] <Skeletbossen> In order to verify my account i needed to log in using my password. I forgot my password. In iorder to email me my password I had to verify my account.
[21:51] <Skeletbossen> An evil circle
[22:26] <VolUTFan> If wanting to exclude /home/* and /media/* from a copy, mv, script etc, can I use $HOME AND $MEDIA?
[22:27] <VolUTFan> or rather $HOME/*
[22:27] <VolUTFan> or $HOME*
[22:28] <VolUTFan> I guess $home will work, but not $media
[22:28] <VolUTFan> any ideas on the media side
[22:50] <keithzg> VolUTFan: Well, you could always just define it as a variable in your script.
[22:51] <keithzg> Or just in your own user variables for bash or whatnot.
[22:53] <keithzg> VolUTFan: Perhaps a "export MEDIA="/media" in your .bashrc (or to make it universal on your system, you could add it to /etc/environment)
[22:53] <VolUTFan> im just trying to make it local to the script, but good idea keithzg
[22:53] <VolUTFan> thanks
[22:54] <keithzg> np
[23:49] <host127> Hi, how to run mplayer from this site: http://portablelinuxapps.org on my pendrive?


[00:01] <tsimonq2> Congrats mhall119 :D
[01:12] <mhall119> ahoneybun: I'm not moving, just will be visiting SanFran more often
[01:13] <mhall119> thanks tsimonq2 :)
[01:13] <mhall119> popey: "they" being the SF locals, I'm not moving office :-P
[13:55] <balloons> mhall119, a belated congrats to you! I had been wondering about your android learning game, nice to hear.
[14:10] <mhall119> balloons: thanks, the game is still being developed, but we're no longer in the XPRIZE competition
[16:57] <popey> mhall119: aw, you didn't make it through?
[20:08] <k1l> hi, since canonical stopped the ubuntu-touch project there is the question what ubuntu wants to do with the community, especially the #ubuntu-touch channel and the different websites. i am an op on the irc channel and wonder if we should plain forward it to the ubports channel or such.
[21:45] <mhall119> popey: nope, they picked the final 12 or so just before my holiday, and we didn't make it


[00:11] <Sarvatt> nice, gnome display properties shows display names instead of just "Unknown" under KMS now
[00:18] <virtuald> i activate changes in display properties no more
[00:18] <virtuald> can't
[00:18] <virtuald> with radeon-kms ppa
[00:19] <virtuald> Method "ApplyConfiguration" with signature "" on interface "org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XRANDR" doesn't exist
[00:21] <Sarvatt> does xrandr say anything when you run it in terminal?
[00:21] <virtuald> it works normally i think
[00:21] <virtuald> xrandr --output DVI-0 --auto set my resolution to 1600x1200 as it should
[00:23] <Sarvatt> try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get instal gnome-desktop on the livecd?
[00:23] <Sarvatt> install rather
[00:24] <Sarvatt> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives//karmic-changes/2009-June/002780.html
[00:25] <Sarvatt> oh sorry, its gnome-desktop-data
[00:27] <Sarvatt> 10 minutes left on the nouveau KMS livecd upload
[00:27] <virtuald> o.o
[00:59] <Sarvatt> http://sarvatt.com/downloads/xorg-edgers-0.10-nouveaukms-i386.iso
[06:58] <Sarvatt> radeon KMS merged in linux-2.6 :)
[07:48] <crevette> hey Sarvatt
[07:49] <crevette> thanks for the reply on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/388032 the method I used is described in the wiki KMS page
[08:54] <Sarvatt> heyo crevette, ahh thats you?
[08:54] <crevette> yep
[08:54] <crevette> still up?
[08:56] <Sarvatt> yep, i should have looked at your logs more last night, thats a really common problem right now :D we need that bad-fbdev-thats-mine patch for xserver or else everyone using KMS without an xorg.conf has that problem :(
[08:58] <Sarvatt> actually i'll just put it up for karmic with that patch on edgers, dunno why i didnt do that
[09:01] <crevette> Sarvatt, I don't know why re you refering to jaunty in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/388032/comments/4
[09:01] <crevette> I'm using karmic
[09:01] <Sarvatt> yeah I apologized for that right after
[09:01] <crevette> :)
[09:01] <crevette> no problemo
[09:02] <crevette> I was just confused after; so can I use the i915.modeset=1 on karmic? becasue I don't want to have it loaded automcatically now, as my laptop is also used by my wife.
[09:07] <Sarvatt> try adding what I said to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you might be able to going by your logs.
[09:14] <Sarvatt> any luck?
[09:14] <crevette_> Sarvatt, were you talking to me?
[09:14] <Sarvatt> yeah
[09:14] <crevette_> sorry I've been disconnected, I can test that tonight once I back to home
 try adding what I said to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you might be able to going by your logs.
[09:15] <Sarvatt> ah alrighty
[09:15] <crevette_> I'm
[09:21] <Sarvatt> oh boy, libdrm-radeon1 added to mesa/drm master now, i'll leave packaging that till tomorrow so I dont screw something up due to lack of sleep :)
[10:14] <tjaalton> yeah, the -9 kernel is a disaster :/
[10:15] <tjaalton> compared to -8 at least
[10:16] <Ng> for what?
[10:18] <tjaalton> Ng: blank screen after a while
[10:18] <tjaalton> intel & kms
[10:19] <Ng> tjaalton: like a dpms off screensaver event you can cancel with input?
[10:21] <tjaalton> Ng: right, but in this case I can't
[10:22] <tjaalton> did you have the same?
[10:25] <Ng> I've had recoverable, erroneous dpms off events since I installed karmic, and I've had a couple of unrecoverable dpms events which co-incided with suspend/resume since yesterday (which happened to be when I rebooted to get -9, but someone else saw very similar OOPses with -8)
[10:25] <Ng> I suspect this might be several bugs looking the same, dpms events shouldn't be related to kernel oopses, I would have thought
[10:47] <Sarvatt> tjaalton: are you on karmic?
[10:47] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: yep
[10:47] <tjaalton> no problems with -8
[10:47] <Sarvatt> gnome-power-manager is horrible about dpms handling right now, there are some fixes upstream not in ours yet
[10:48] <Sarvatt> ah
[10:50] <Sarvatt> lets see what was changed between rc8 and release then, hmm
[10:50] <Ng> yeah we need gpm 2.27.2 afaik
[10:51] <Ng> but I've not wanted to waste seb's time asking about it, I'm quite sure he has a plan
[10:51] <Sarvatt> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=c9fb15f60eb517c958dec64dca9357bf62bf2201
[10:52] <Sarvatt> i've got a deb here of gpm 2.27.2 if you just want to test it out https://edge.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/654048/+listing-archive-extra
[10:53] <tjaalton> ok thanks
[10:54] <Ng> aha
[10:54] <Sarvatt> that commit was between -8 and -9, looks like that might be where the problems coming from
[10:58] <Ng> talking of gpm, is anyone else seeing a very default gnome looking icon for it?
[10:59] <tjaalton> the battery with blue on it?
[10:59] <Ng> yeah
[10:59] <Ng> it doesn't look like the icon in jaunty, it looks more like a default gnome icon would
[11:00] <tjaalton> maybe the name got changed
[11:00] <Sarvatt> i saw something about that in the changelogs i think, patch that changed it didnt apply on the new ones or something
[11:00] <Ng> although with the sarvatt package I just installed, the icon is /!\ ;)
[11:00] <Ng> I think because it doesn't understand the state my battery is in. it's not full, but not charging and gpm is telling me it's confused
[11:01] <Sarvatt> did you restart gpm?
[11:03] <Ng> yeap
[11:03] <Sarvatt>   * Drop 04-battery-low-icon-change.patch; it does not apply at all any more,
[11:03] <Sarvatt>     and wasn't sent upstream.  Icons for 2.26 changed a lot, thus this needs
[11:03] <Sarvatt>     some more work anyway. This reopens LP #344886 for Karmic.
[11:04] <Ng> TI:11:03:42	TH:0x1afcd00	FI:gpm-devicekit.c	FN:gpm_devicekit_get_object_icon,161 - nothing matched, falling back to default icon
[11:04] <Sarvatt> thats what i was thinking of, maybe it wasnt all of the icons
[11:04] <Ng> which may be related to:
[11:04] <Ng> TI:11:03:42	TH:0x1afcd00	FI:gpm-devicekit.c	FN:gpm_devicekit_get_object_summary,275 - in an undefined state we are not charging or discharging and the batteries are also not charged
[11:05] <Sarvatt> http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnome-power-manager/commit/?id=651cd63cfd5e1d47bd9c625a904d57e744284292
[11:05] <Sarvatt> (post 2.27.1 change)
[11:07] <Sarvatt> hopefully they fix that before the 2.27.2 release
[11:13] <Ng> huh
[15:50] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: the new gpm didn't help, it froze just the same
[18:31] <crevette> is there a way to generate a xorg.conf from the running X configuration for someone without xorg.conf?
[18:36] <bryce> jbarnes: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22336 seems fairly serious.  Mind taking a look when you get a chance?  Maybe there's already a patch somewhere for that.
[18:36] <Ng> aha, that looks like it might be a dupe of the one I filed yesterday
[18:37] <jbarnes> bryce: yeah that might be a dupe of the vblank sync bug
[18:37] <Ng> (but I'd dupe mine to mdz's, since he's way better at it than me ;)
[18:37] <jbarnes> when we turn off a display there's a chance we'll hang
[18:38] <jbarnes> yeah looks related
[18:38] <Ng> that would match with what I've seen, all of the hangs have been related to screensaver/dpms type events
[18:46] <halfline> crevette: it puts the xorg.conf in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:48] <crevette> halfline, hey halfline, what are you doing on ubuntu chan ? :thanks for the tips
[18:49] <halfline> SPYING
[18:49] <crevette> tsss
[18:49] <crevette> :)
[18:49] <crevette> actually mclasen is idling on #ubuntu-desktop :)
[18:50]  * halfline sees federico1 here too
[18:50] <crevette> Sarvatt, the fix you adviced in the bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/388032 fixed the problem
[18:52] <federico1> halfline: hey
[20:05] <bryce> jbarnes: regarding the vblank sync bug, we pulled in 120_fix_dri2_vblank_syncing_segfault.patch (commit b8e360bf2b77d28559d15a7c0f9c766848eb6ced) to fix that one, which iirc listed a backtrace in Xorg.0.log.  This one is a bit different in that it oops in dmesg.  But is there another patch we need for the vblank bug?
[20:10] <bryce> jbarnes: I poked around on fdo but didn't spot an obvious open or closed vblank bug that matches these reports; do you have a bug id or patch I should look at?
[20:13] <tjaalton> Sarvatt thinks it's because of this change that got in after 2.6.30 rc8 http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=c9fb15f60eb517c958dec64dca9357bf62bf2201
[20:13] <tjaalton> -8 works fine, -9 doesn't
[20:13] <tjaalton> at least on my box
[20:14] <jbarnes> tjaalton: turning of the pipes & plls would cause the vblank counter to stop
[20:14] <jbarnes> so would leave us open to hangs related to vblank waits (as is done in xv and dri2 now)
[20:14] <jbarnes> bryce: lemme see...
[20:15] <tjaalton> jbarnes: ok..
[20:15] <jbarnes> bryce: I was thinking of this one: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22318
[20:16] <bryce> jbarnes: yeah... anholt unduped it though
[20:16] <tjaalton> hmm, maybe I should try to get a dump
[20:17] <jbarnes> bryce: yeah saw that... I'm just guessing it's related to the vblank stuff
[20:17] <jbarnes> it may not be
[20:17] <jbarnes> --- a/src/i830_dri.c
[20:17] <jbarnes> +++ b/src/i830_dri.c
[20:17] <jbarnes> @@ -299,7 +299,7 @@ I830DRI2CopyRegion(DrawablePtr pDraw, RegionPtr pRegion,
[20:17] <jbarnes>      ValidateGC(dst, pGC);
[20:17] <jbarnes>
[20:17] <jbarnes>      /* Wait for the scanline to be outside the region to be copied */
[20:18] <jbarnes> -    if (pixmap_is_scanout(get_drawable_pixmap(dst))) {
[20:18] <jbarnes> +    if (pixmap_is_scanout(get_drawable_pixmap(dst)) && 0) {
[20:18] <jbarnes>         BoxPtr box;
[20:18] <jbarnes>         BoxRec crtcbox;
[20:18] <jbarnes>         int y1, y2;
[20:18] <jbarnes> if it's a vblank wait causing the hang that patch would prevent it
[20:18] <bryce> jbarnes: btw we now have an apport script to collect all this stuff on freezes - https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/388467 - now we just need something in X to trigger it when the gpu hangs and we'll be golden
[20:18] <jbarnes> yay
[20:19] <bryce> although it seems every time we find a freeze anholt comes up with a unique new way to collect debug info :-P
[20:35] <Ng> is intel-gpu-dump somewhere nicer than a git tree I have to compile? ;)
[20:36] <tjaalton> apt-get away
[20:36] <tjaalton> intel-gpu-tools
[20:36] <Ng> oh duh, I guess command-not-found doesn't know about it yet, I'm too used to that telling me what to install ;)
[20:36] <Ng> ta :)
[20:36] <tjaalton> apt-file works better ;)
[20:37] <Ng> yeah yeah :)
[20:40] <bryce> Ng: yeah merged it into karmic a bit ago.  Still lives in universe fwiw.  Doubt that matters tho.
[21:15] <Sarvatt> heyo tormod, just copyed everything for nouveau KMS over https://edge.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/nouveau
[21:15] <Sarvatt> oops, radeon-kms ppa out of space
[21:16] <tormod> hi Sarvatt! these kernels fill them up fast :)
[21:21] <Sarvatt> could you take a look at this libdrm if you get a chance? https://edge.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/ati
[21:21] <tormod> what's that kms6 kernel anyway? I was waiting for a mainline snapshot now :)
[21:22] <Sarvatt> want to update libdrm with libdrm-radeon1 on edgers so we can bring apw's kernels in with the drm-intel-next stuff in it without breaking ati for everyone using it since its got kms on default :D
[21:22] <Sarvatt> dunno, he made it 2 days ago, guess its a bit newer than 5
[21:22] <tormod> seems like the kms6 kernel only added intel support, so maybe not so useful for radeon-kms PPA :P
[21:23] <Sarvatt> 5 had the intel stuff too!
[21:25] <tormod> hmm the kms5 and kms6  changelogs look identical
[21:25] <Sarvatt> theres so many new kernel options in .31 right now, wouldnt be surprised if it'll be awhile till we get one of those :)
[21:27] <Sarvatt> i dont know, just saw higher number in his PPA and copied it
[21:27] <tormod> maybe apw changed something without updating the changelog
[21:28] <tormod> it's strange the ppa is full, it has only 5 packages
[21:28] <tormod> guess there is a lot of cruft in the file reop
[21:28] <tormod> *repo
[21:28] <Sarvatt> its the old 400MB kernel that hasnt been deleted yet
[21:29] <Sarvatt> just copied it like 15 minutes ago
[21:29] <tormod> the kms5 ?  there are still some kms1 files also
[21:30] <tormod> you want to put the kms kernel into xorg-edgers?
[21:30] <Sarvatt> hmm, maybe it bugged out when you uploaded that one that failed and it didnt ever remove the one previous to that
[21:33] <Sarvatt> well he's pulling drm-intel-next into it and some people want to use it for that but the whole radeon KMS enabled by default part of it kept me from copying it over, seemed like it might be ok to do it now?
[21:33] <tormod> I have seen that nomodeset does not work for radeon, is there a way to disable KMS?
[21:33] <Sarvatt> seems to be a consensus that KMS/DRI2 radeon-rewrite is a crapload more stable than UMS/DRI1 radeon-rewrite is all :D
[21:33] <crevette> hey Sarvatt
[21:34] <Sarvatt> heyo!
[21:35] <tormod> DRI2 seems slower than DRI1 in many situations, which is not surprising
[21:35] <tormod> first it gets usable, then stable, then they work on performance
[21:36] <tormod> I would like to have the possibility to test out DRI1 in xorg-edgers for still some time
[21:36] <tormod> unless it gets too complicated - intel always complicates things :)
[21:38] <tormod> my biggest problem with DRI2 is that suspend and hibernation is broken
[21:38] <tormod> s/DRI2/kms I guess
[21:38] <tjaalton> bryce: are you going to add the new script to 'xorg', or can you wait until I've finished the merge? :)
[21:38] <Sarvatt> could that be because pm-utils doesnt have the quirk handling for radeon KMS?
[21:39] <tormod> doesn't it? isn't it just no quirks at all?
[21:39] <bryce> tjaalton: I can wait
[21:39] <tjaalton> bryce: won't take long anymore
[21:39] <tormod> (only the cosmetic no-switch-vt quirk)
[21:39] <bryce> tjaalton: in fact we cannot use it until apport supports running as root anyway, and won't actually function until we have the trigger stuff from jesse
[21:40] <tjaalton> bryce: ah, ok
[21:41] <tormod> Sarvatt: would it be an idea to have intel optimized stuff in ~intel-gfx-testing, or is it too many ppas to maintain?
[21:42] <Sarvatt> naaaaah too many darn PPAs as it is and that'd just be for the kernel unless we pulled in all the dri2 swapbuffer stuff
[21:42] <Sarvatt> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pm-utils/tree/pm/sleep.d/98smart-kernel-video?id=a79d16300c662080caf1775f1cf68f1be4049716
[21:43] <Sarvatt> thats what i was referring to, intel needs special handling there that radeon might as well
[21:45] <Sarvatt> speak of the devil
[21:45] <Sarvatt> http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/pm-utils/F-11/pm-utils-<IP_ADDRESS>-radeon-kms.patch?revision=1.1&view=markup
[21:48]  * tormod just had a DRI1 crash again
[21:52] <tormod> Sarvatt: the intel special handling is only for old kernels, right?
[21:53] <Sarvatt> nah apw is pulling drm-intel-next with fixes that take up to 3 weeks sometimes to make it down to the ubuntu kernel into the radeon KMS kernel
[21:53] <tormod> if have_kms succeeds the have_smart_intel is not even run
[21:53] <Sarvatt> #define ABI_XINPUT_VERSION SET_ABI_VERSION(7, 0)
[21:53]  * Sarvatt cries.
[21:55] <tormod> I see. so we definitely want a special kernel for intel.
[22:03] <Sarvatt> 3rd xserver input ABI bump in 2 weeks, think thats my queue to let it settle a bit more before rebuilding all input drivers yet again :D
[22:12] <Sarvatt> anyway no point updating it now, i was only doing it because of the radeom KMS/intel kernel thing but you're right, it would be better to have dri1 in edgers
[22:13] <Sarvatt> intel people were asking me about putting a drm-intel-next kernel in edgers is why i was looking at it
[22:14] <Sarvatt> we've got the intel driver people telling people to use edgers and singing its praises on their blogs now :D
[22:14] <Sarvatt> did you see this? http://cworth.org/intel/driver_stability/
[22:15] <bryce> sweet :-)
[22:16] <jbarnes> yeah I mentioned it in my internal uds status report too
[22:16] <jbarnes> edgers kicks ass
[22:18] <tormod> jbarnes: thanks! but of course the -intel stuff is sarvatt's effort
[23:45] <tjaalton> bryce: ok, xorg merge pushed to git
[23:46] <bryce> yay
[23:46] <tjaalton> I've retained the changes to dexconf, although I don't think they hold much value anymore
[23:48] <tjaalton> the failsafeDexconf needs a surgery too, since all the debconf stuff is gone
[23:49] <tjaalton> jcristau: looks like the bus_id stuff should be ripped out as well?


[18:07] <AliTabuger7> Anyone from SU here?
[20:59] <AliTabuger7> Does anyone know who designed the cool SpreadUbuntu logo? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/16279896/logoSUlight.png
[23:48] <Traveler> hello
[23:48] <Traveler> oooo....that's not good I can't see anything
[23:49] <Traveler> only half the text is appearing!


 Guys I've said it before but I need to say it again, the kinesis is life changing
 Even if you don't have tendonitis, you start to realize that it's saving your wrists in the longrun
 I'm about to sit down for a long night and I'm so glad I don't have to worry about sore hands at the end of it
 *sore wrists
 I pulled a long day as well
 @RazPi I have an elephant whistle.  You just give it one blow and you don't need to worry about pesky elephants running through your office.
 Willing to sell for $99.99
 How many do you have @AdamOutler , I am in the middle of an infestation
 I have 10+ in stock.
 Limit 2 per customer.  Deal not applicable in Seattle.
 I think you have too many elephants in the room
 It doesn't need to be a kinesis but a split keyboard with key wells seems to do an awful lot!
 It's just one of those "wow why didn't I do this sooner" type of things
 I've been using a mechanical keyboard since I was 7 years old. I started typing 100+ wpm at 11.  I have never had a need for a fancy keyboard.  But those soft press are hot steaming garbage.
 A few extra macro keys and media keys never hurt but give me a plain old keyboard with mechanical or at least tactile feedback and I'm happy.
 I've got cherry mx browns on this one, but yes, before I considered the kinesis I was totally into the planck
 https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_thread/lp3mswuTkqjdNyf5EGgU_%E5%BE%AE%E4%BF%A1%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%87_20170806102316.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=min&w=796&dpr=1
 That doesn't look good at all.   I need a 105key.
 https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Programmable-Gaming-Keyboard-Display/dp/B001NXDBI6 I have it.  i don't like it.  Not enough feedback
 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Space-cadet.jpg
 yes. I'll take 2.
 XD
 Seriously, they don't make 'em like they used to.  The older ones are usually the best.  The newer ones use flexible nipples instead of mechnical keys.
 Have you tried devorak?
 dvorak
 PB is the best keyboard layout
 I hope that's legit and you're not talking about "sticky keys"
 Pixelbook
 Latest Windows Insider build makes a major upgrade to, uh… Notepad – Ars Technica … https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/latest-windows-insider-build-makes-a-major-upgrade-to-uh-notepad/
 Notepad supports utf-8. No longer will Linux files appear on one line.
 It's about time
 Cool.  New version of telegram lets me click on Keith's profile and see the loofa holder being made.
 Profiles were updated
 @AdamOutler, Speaking of which, I finished with the reprint in the black flexible filament that you asked for. I even printed the glow in the dark studs for you to glue on it
 Hahaha
 Gah - best lightweight ssh client for android?
 sudden urge to ssh to my box and run castnow to stream crap to my TV
 until I do it the proper way
 I use JuiceSSH
 Or install ssh in termux
 termuxxxx
 i'll check em both out
 Or...
 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux
 checking out termux now
 seems nice -- 176kb
 then dl openssh
 all I needed
 perfecto
 Termux is a full distribution running in a chroot
 You can install quite a bit if needed including nano, emacs, python, etc
 sounds handy
 I need to get more mobile and actually utilize the power in phones these days
 I'll be working out of a hotel tomorrow
 Might be worth a try then
 Termux does not need a lot of power and can accomplish a lot
 Trying to figure out my options if I have a chromecast w/out Wifi
 don't think I can stream full on local content easily on android like I can from a PC
 And my laptop is 'borrowed'
 le sigh
 None, Chromecast needs to communicate with Google to work. It does not allow offline casting.
 Have you seen castnow?
 the thing is ridic for streaming local content
 ./castnow --tomp4 MY_LARGE_VIDEO.avi
 if already in mp4, let er rip
 can attach subtitles
 play pause, seek, volume
 like amg
 if you have 50 chromecasts or equiv
 you can specify via IP or 'name'
 I will need to try it
 otherwise it'll stream to the first device it finds
 there's probably some gui frontend for it
 err - a more proper resource https://github.com/xat/castnow
 I've never bothered to look at android 'networking'
 But if I roll a hotspot with multiple devices connected -- is each device isolated? Or is it treated as a usual LAN?
 LAN
 most interesting
 If that's really the case, thinking about stress testing the 'data plan' on my corp phone
 If any of you have some legit time management technique for tackling all your projects - let me know :D
 I fail on that
 I fail too but I have lots of techniques
 I do a brain map, and start prioritizing which ones are the most important and which I can or should scrap to try and bring the list down
 I am struggling immensely on finishing certs/random projects/actually_learning_work_things
 is finishing certs something you're doing for a job upgrade or just because you want to?
 both.
 3rd time ccna, but then get rolled off a project aka 'promoted'
 bought my np books this time around, got voluntold a promotion 2 days after I bought my stuff lol
 But I want to do it anyway because I never got around to it -- and it's simple enough stuff
 np?
 having worked backbone network land for a while
 CCNP - cisco cert raps
 traps*
 ooh ok
 and what kind of projects are you into at the moment?
 well none really. But I just sat here and derped with Linux - casting local content to a pc
 but then derping with random programs
 and mirin how it all works
 ^ just how smooth it all is immediately puts me into a coding mood
 but alas, it's 1 AM and I have some massive docs for work I need to get ingested before I can not feel guilty about working personal projects.
 but then I can roll the excuse that playing with R is good for work, because it is.
 I'm rambling.
 So interesting point, working on that google tensorflow toy helped me be more focused on my current work project
 total grok mode?
 whereas no matter how many video games I tried it didn't seem to help, it was more like a temporary anesthetic
 Yea, games just depress me these days.
 More like, being able to make some progress in a personal project helped me feel better about approaching my current workload
 I just realize how much time is a commodity when I play
 yeah
 No lies though, gonna totally play RE2 when it drops
 but ya
 lol
 I think and want to believe in such thing as relaxation-learning
 RE2?
 ooh resident evil
 The Resident Evil2 remake.
 gotcha
 I played REmake (first) on dolphin some years back, and it completely renewed my faith in games.
 hehe
 I was 10 years late to the party, but my gosh - atmosphere
 Alright, ya'll have a good night.
 Thanks for the words :D
 and @KMyers - thank you! Termux is perfect for what I needed
 'night :)
 New server, cat /proc/cpuinfo...  Final processor is numbered 95!
 Frickin 96 processors in this mo-flapper.  Make -n96!
 How many sockets?
 I need a suggestion
 for the most recognizeable keygen music of the 90s
 Keygen?
 yes
 Like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMRaCW6OtXM
 ohhh gotcha
[18:11] <roaksoax> :win 2
 A while Joel in his habit.
 @alan
 @govatent 2 sockets
 Nice
 Is Joel in town?!
 @ahoneybun
 Yes he is.
 @govatent
 yep, i'm here


[01:17] <magic_ninja> I'm on the latest daily build. Is there a known issue with the application launcher not working from a keyboard shortcut?
 Reset the launder shortcut to use Alt-f1.
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hi all