[05:32] <danfg> carpediem: eclipse 3.3 was installed from the tar.gz file btw, i was just wondering where i could find a deb package instead
[05:32] <ramza3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo   I am following this guide for setting up NFS, but I am getting permission defined on the client side.   Anybody have any ideas.  Only difference from article is that I added a "nfsuser" as a user and used that as my home directory
[05:33] <orionn> i have EVERYTHING working seamlessly except the cam
[05:33] <jimbo> j-laptop, yes i do
[05:33] <_Casey_> flashplugin-nonfree?
[05:33] <Smegzor> *sigh*  some peeps.  I appreciate the help, it was just the method.
[05:33] <te_> Sturm: What was the first username you had when you installed?
[05:33] <cMinion> hey, i just installed Ubuntu on two machines with the same cd. For some reason i can't find java6 in the reposetory on this machine but i had no problem finding it on the other.  How can it still be hibernated if windows is no longer running?
[05:36] <carpediem> danfg: there are no dependencies for eclipse that aren't included with it, other than the JVM
[05:37] <danfg> carpediem: ok. i'm downloading the latest tar.gz and i'll try installing it again
[05:37] <carpediem> danfg: can you go to the command line and type "java -version"
[05:37] <_Casey_> option 1: tar.gz
[05:37] <IndyGunFreak> _Casey_: yes
[05:37] <_Casey_> i do a ./configure, make, sudo make install?
[05:38] <vegananarchist> I need some help
[05:38] <IndyGunFreak> _Casey_: no
[05:38] <danfg> carpediem: yikes, "Could not create the Java virtual machine.", but that's recent, it was working just now. i changed some settings with the java-alternatives script. brb
[05:38] <Casey> ugh. i hate highlights
[05:38] <IndyGunFreak> _Casey_: extract thefile inside your home folder
[05:38] <_Casey_> ./flashplayer-installer
[05:38] <nickrud> jimbo, I found this, read only though http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=509276
[05:38] <_Casey_> its on my desktop?
[05:38] <Shadow147> !find mozzila
[05:38] <ubotu> Package/file mozzila does not exist in gutsy
[05:38] <IndyGunFreak> _Casey_: ok, you may want to keep it in your home folder, cuz i'm pretty sure you have to keep that, but i could be wrong
[05:38] <Evolution2> !mozilla
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozilla - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <carpediem> danfg: okay, even if that's recent, still needs to be fixed before you'll ever run eclipse again.
[05:39] <_Casey_> okie hold
[05:39] <Shadow147> !find Mozzila
[05:39] <jimbo> joshj, i assume windows was hibernated when the raid fell appart so i guess it hibernated the drive, i have no idea really
[05:39] <ubotu> Package/file mozzila does not exist in gutsy
[05:39] <bazhang> one z Shadow147
[05:39] <vegananarchist> I am trying to install my nvidia driver with envy and i'm using a proxy so it wants me to put the .run file in a folder, but i don't have access to that folder, how can i log in as root and be able to drop the file into the folder
[05:39] <JoshJ> jimbo: it doesn't really work like that
[05:39] <te_> Sturm: Edit file /etc/group  and add new users to to the appropriate places.  For instance, If the first user was "fred", and now you've added user "jane"  Find each line that  has  fred  and put a , and then add the name of new user "jane" so that each line that has fred also has jane  It should look like this:  disk::6:root,adm,fred,jane
[05:39] <JoshJ> are you sure this drive didn't get corrupted somehow?
[05:39] <_Casey_> it cannot make the dir in home
[05:39] <bio> !find mozilla
[05:39] <IndyGunFreak> then cd into the directory.. /home/whatever/install_flash_player_9_linux
[05:39] <ubotu> Found: mozilla-firefox-locale-af, mozilla-firefox-locale-ar, mozilla-firefox-locale-be, mozilla-firefox-locale-bg-bg, mozilla-firefox-locale-bn-bd (and 78 others)
[05:39] <davidthedrake> vegananarchist, sudo mv filename location
[05:40] <momal> Anyone here set up 5.1 before? I can't seem to get my center speaker working. Speaker is pluged in and does work in windows(or if i plug it into another slot) center is turned up in alsa mixer. doesn't work playing mp3s (amarok set in 5.1) or playing dvds that are 5.1 audio. rest of speakers are fine (except rear left/right when playing mp3s)
[05:40] <IndyGunFreak> _Casey_: why are you making it there, just copy/paste it there.
[05:40] <JoshJ> jimbo: you may want to try ntfsfix then ntfsmount?
[05:40] <_Casey_> nono
[05:40] <jimbo> joshj, i dont know the error i am getting is that the drive is hibernated and that i need to reboot windows then shut down properly if i want to mount the drive
[05:40] <Silver_Fox> Anyone know of a good screen recording program?  Also a video edeting program?
[05:40] <_Casey_> im using the extractor thingy
[05:40] <JoshJ> "You may run ntfsfix on an NTFS volume if you think it  was  damaged  by
[05:40] <JoshJ>        Windows or some other way and it can’t be mounted."
[05:40] <IndyGunFreak> _Casey_: ok, so just extract it to home
[05:40] <JoshJ> (from the manpage)
[05:40] <_Casey_> http://pastebin.com/m42cf3fa3
[05:41] <JoshJ> it's part of ntfsprogs so you may need to install that
[05:41] <bio> is there anyway to read/write to ntfs?
[05:41] <JoshJ> !ntfs
[05:41] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[05:41] <IndyGunFreak> _Casey_: doubel click it, and use file roller
[05:41] <bazhang> !ntfs-3g | bio
[05:41] <vegananarchist> THANKS!
[05:41] <ubotu> bio: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:41] <IndyGunFreak> then just extract it to home.
[05:41] <cMinion> problem changed: eclipse should in theory work right away with icedTea, it doesnt even though the icedTea is registered as the jvm with java-version :/
[05:41] <bio> thx, bazhang
[05:42] <carpediem> cMinion: have you run eclipse from the command line to see what the error is?
[05:42] <IndyGunFreak> _Casey_: you lost?
[05:42] <_Casey_> i double click it and the extract thing just pops up
[05:42] <orionn> does ANYONE have a fully functional dell integrated webcam/mic
[05:42] <bullgard4> Why does System > Preferences > Hardware Information > HAL_Device_Manager not provide RAM information? Or did I overlook something?
[05:42] <orionn> or am i going to have to code for 3 days?
[05:42] <_Casey_> i double click the tar.gz
[05:42] <IndyGunFreak> _Casey_: type this w/o quotes.. "/join #indygunfreak"
[05:42] <bazhang> jimbo: you need to reinstall then, or it may be a hardware issue (sounds that way), or go to ##windows
[05:43] <Casey> its not hard to install flash :x
[05:43] <cMinion> yeah, it can't find the jvm. Workied fine on another comp where i used a slightly out of date rep which allowed sun-java downloads.
[05:43] <nickrud> !webcam | orionn (and if it's not there, please code :)
[05:43] <ubotu> orionn (and if it's not there, please code :): Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:43] <orionn> thanks everyone who pmed me
[05:44] <cMinion> but you know, would be nice to make it happen with the official up to date rep and the" oh so fantastic" icedTea package :P
[05:44] <orionn> trying camorama now
[05:45] <RoshanK> has anyone been able to fully utilise bluetooth on their system to interact with a phone properly?
[05:45] <bazhang> RoshanK: want a link/factoid?
[05:45] <RoshanK> bazhang sure
[05:45] <bio> awesome!
[05:45] <RoshanK> !bluetooth
[05:45] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:46] <bio> write access to ntfs!
[05:46] <cMinion> i take the silence as "no solution", changing to old rep ^^
[05:46]  * Brancan is an Ubuntu noobie (Yay)
[05:46] <bio> do I have to run the program every time?
[05:46] <bio> ntfs-config that is
[05:46] <bazhang> bio: one would hope not :}
[05:46] <JoshJ> bio: you shouldn't have to
[05:46] <bio> sweet
[05:46] <carpediem> cMinion: what do you mean..... what happens when you type "java -version"
[05:47] <bio> not like it takes more than 2 seconds...
[05:47] <taak> how do i restore a file that i accidentally deleted from an .deb package?
[05:47] <Fezzler> After entering Minicom in Menu with "gnome-terminal -e sudo minicom", I choose the item and the terminal just opens/closes
[05:47] <bazhang> taak: you dont
[05:47] <bio> thanks everyone
[05:47] <bio> be back for another session soon!
[05:47] <JoshJ> i don't, but i deliberately make it read-only for obvious reasons
[05:47] <taak> can you be a little less cryptic there?
[05:48] <bazhang> JoshJ: the linux viruses? :}
[05:48] <nickrud> taak, what do you mean you deleted a file from a deb package, that's not really easy to do
[05:48] <JoshJ> bazhang: more like the fact that write support is apparently slightly on the iffy side
[05:48] <bazhang> taak: you first
[05:48] <carpediem> taak: can't you just reinstall the deb?
[05:48] <jxxt> taak, when you delete in linux it is fairly permanent
[05:48] <cMinion> carpediem: its says IcedTead Jvm 7 etc etc
[05:48] <bazhang> JoshJ: okay. just kidding
[05:49] <bruenig> taak, if you deleted a file from a deb, it was not an accident
[05:49] <carpediem> cMinion: okay...can you PM me the output when you type "eclipse"
[05:49] <JoshJ> i mean, if i'm moving stuff to windows, i have the windows ext3 reader, so why not do that instead, right?
[05:49] <nickrud> hear, hear
[05:49] <bruenig> two tarballs enclosed on an ar archive, lot of unwrapping to do
[05:49] <bruenig> in*
[05:49] <bazhang> JoshJ: righto
[05:49] <JoshJ> so i usually just "take" rather than "give" so i'm always reading from the "other" os and writing to "this" os.
[05:49] <te_> Sturm: Did you get it  yet?
[05:49] <cMinion> il try ^^
[05:50] <taak> ok
[05:50] <taak> i deleted an apache module out from /etc/apache2/mods-available
[05:50] <nickrud> taak, which one?
[05:50] <bazhang> taak: you could also ask in #apache
[05:51] <taak> mod_python
[05:51] <nickrud> bazhang, no, that dir is debian/ubuntu specific
[05:51] <taak> i know which package it came from
[05:51] <bazhang> nickrud: sorry! and thanks!
[05:51] <taak> apt-get install it again doesn't restore it, though
[05:51] <JoshJ> taak: did you remove it first?
[05:51] <JoshJ> otherwise apt just goes "it's already installed" and exits
[05:51] <taak> the .deb file is still in /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:51] <nickrud> taak, then sudo dpkg -i --force-confnew /var/cache/apt/archives/<packagename><tab>
[05:52] <JoshJ> ...yeah, that
[05:52] <JoshJ> you could also have done apt-get clean :p
[05:52] <Molke_DK> hi, and bye
[05:53]  * nickrud goes off to double check
[05:53] <JoshJ> nickrud: man apt-get, look for "clean" :)
[05:53] <nickrud> taak, that's --force-confmiss , sorry
[05:54] <nickrud> JoshJ, that just removes packages from the archive
[05:54] <JoshJ> nickrud: doesn't that do what you want (forces a new download)?
[05:54] <taak> there's a .conf and a .load file, will that --confmiss do both?
[05:54] <JoshJ> maybe i misread it
[05:54]  * JoshJ loads it back up
[05:54] <nickrud> JoshJ, but if a conf file is missing, apt will not replace it because it assumes you removed it on purpose
[05:55] <JoshJ> nickrud: --purge on a remove doesn't result in it making new conf files?
[05:56] <JoshJ> i thought that was sort of the point
[05:56] <nickrud> JoshJ, yes it will
[05:56] <nickrud> JoshJ, why not use one command rather than two ;p
[05:56] <taak> i'm going to try --dry-run first
[05:56] <nickrud> lol, wise man
[05:56] <JoshJ> nickrud: because you can do "apt-get remove --purge foo && apt-get clean" ?
[05:57] <nickrud> JoshJ, 6 here, half a dozen there. There's lots of tools
[05:57] <Fezzler> Has anyone ever gotten Multisync to work with a Pocket PC?
[05:57] <JoshJ> nickrud: if we keep talking about it, some perl guy will write a one-liner there to do it
[05:58]  * nickrud shuts up immediately, he hates languages written in symbols
[05:58] <JoshJ> LOL
[05:58] <_Casey_> i forgot the chat i was just in ;x
[05:58] <JoshJ> (psst... technically, the alphabet is a set of symbols)
[05:58] <taak> ok apparently it ignores --dry-run if you put it at the end
[05:58] <taak> but it appears to have worked anyway
[05:59] <nickrud> JoshJ, and there's one reason you might want to use --force-missing, you might have modified some of the other conf files and not want to lose them
[06:00] <JoshJ> generally speaking, i do --purge specifically because i borked up a config file and WANT to lose them; but I'll keep that in mind :)
[06:01] <jimmygoon> How do I use md5sum from the command line to generate an md5 sum of text
[06:01] <nickrud> jimmygoon, md5sum <file>
[06:01] <JoshJ> jimmygoon: what's the text in? a text file?
[06:01] <jimmygoon> I just want to type it :P
[06:01] <JoshJ> oh
[06:01] <jimmygoon> I know I can do "md5sum -" to use stdin but then how do I tell it I'm done and to generate the chksum
[06:01] <_Casey_> woo it works
[06:01] <JoshJ> echo "foo" | md5sum ?
[06:01] <_Casey_> idk how to get my mic working
[06:01] <nickrud> jimmygoon, hit ctl-d
[06:01] <jimmygoon> JoshJ, yup
[06:01] <jimmygoon> nickrud, thanks
[06:01] <JoshJ> jimmygoon: send a EOF (control-D)
[06:02] <cafuego> Note echo -n foo | md5sum
[06:02] <cafuego> otherwise you'll be including the terminating null.
[06:02] <JoshJ> ooh, good catch
[06:02] <jimmygoon> cafuego, yep, trial and error caught that one
[06:02]  * nickrud bows towards cafuego
[06:02] <jimmygoon> the ctrl+d didn't and I was like wait....
[06:03] <fsanlu> how to i change my username?
[06:03] <jimmygoon> the md5sum for "lol" and "lol\0" are different
[06:03] <jimmygoon> anyway, thanks
[06:03] <bazhang> in irc fsanlu?
[06:03] <JoshJ> fsanlu: here or in your OS?
[06:03] <fsanlu> bazhang, no in ubuntu
[06:03] <danfg> carpediem: java now is running when i set update-java-alternatives to "java-gcj"
[06:03] <fsanlu> haha i wish it was as easy as /nick
[06:03] <Sonja> how do i improve the ubuntu translation to Esperanto?
[06:03] <JoshJ> fsanlu: it's still pretty easy
[06:04] <carpediem> danfg: ek...I'd go with sun java if I were you.
[06:04] <nickrud> !rosetta
[06:04] <ubotu> rosetta is a Web-based system for translating open source software into any language.  See https://launchpad.net/rosetta/+about
[06:04] <JoshJ> system-administration-users and groups
[06:04] <JoshJ> right-click on the user in question, properties
[06:04] <cafuego> fsanlu: it kinda is, depending on whether you want to move your homedir too :-)
[06:04] <JoshJ> change the names.
[06:04] <JoshJ> and yeah, you'll need to check the homedir and chown -R it most likely
[06:04] <nickrud> Sonja, that rosetta above was for you , forgot to point it at you
[06:04] <JoshJ> ubuntu may do that automatically, though
[06:05] <fsanlu> okay gotcha :] thank you very much sirs
[06:05] <frederick85> hey i'm wondering is Xubuntu still active
[06:05] <danfg> carpediem: exactly, i have it installed, but when i set update-java-alternatives to "java-6-sun", java won't run :(
[06:05] <nickrud> frederick85, yes
[06:05] <JoshJ> frederick85: #xubuntu
[06:05] <carpediem> danfg: okay, is eclipse running under gcj?
[06:05] <danfg> carpediem: i'll try reinstalling java-6-sun packages.
[06:06] <danfg> carpediem: yes, but the 3.2 version, i want to run the 3.3 version
[06:06] <JoshJ> danfg: do you have it installed?
[06:06] <danfg> JoshJ: 3.3?
[06:06] <JoshJ> yeah
[06:06] <BoNe> Can anyone recommend a lightweight WM/X-Win for a server install?
[06:06] <carpediem> danfg: yeah....you can try that, if not, you could also use sun-java-5.  I don't think Europa requires JAva 6
[06:06] <JoshJ> danfg: you can switch what it uses inside eclipse without having to do any special installing tricks
[06:06] <J_Laptop> fluxbox
[06:06] <J_Laptop> xfce
[06:06] <nickrud> Sonja, sorry that link is way out of date, I guess
[06:07] <JoshJ> flux is nice imo
[06:07] <danfg> JoshJ: lemme try that, brb
[06:07] <frederick85> what is ubuntu alternate
[06:07] <frederick85> ?
[06:07] <frederick85> can i make a xubuntu box with that?
[06:07] <Sonja> i found this https://translations.launchpad.net/exaile/trunk/+pots/exaile/eo/+translate?show=untranslated
[06:07] <BoNe> J_Laptop: does the xfce support a vnc-server type setup by default?
[06:08] <JoshJ> danfg: window-preferences-java
[06:08] <J_Laptop> anything can support vnc server
[06:08] <JoshJ> then "installed JREs" and you can edit what the default one
[06:08] <frederick85> ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso what is this iso for?
[06:08] <J_Laptop> if you set it up right
[06:08] <ramza3> at boot, with /etc/fstab.  is there a way to specify which user does the mount.  e.g for NFS mounting
[06:09] <J_Laptop> the alternate cd's are for command line installs
[06:09] <frederick85> J_Laptop: easier than a gentoo mini iso?
[06:09] <J_Laptop> for machines in which the gui fails, or if you want special things like lvm setups
[06:09] <nickrud> Sonja, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+lang/eo
[06:09] <J_Laptop> much easier to run the installer
[06:09] <nickrud> Sonja, heh, beat me to it
[06:09] <frederick85> J_Laptop: i'd like to setup a custom desktop so would the alternate be appropriate for me?
[06:09] <J_Laptop> maybe even a server cd
[06:10] <J_Laptop> so you get just a base, and can build from that
[06:10] <frederick85> J_Laptop: the server cd couldn't detect my processor type for some reason
[06:10] <bazhang> or a minimal install frederick85
[06:10] <JoshJ> ramza3: man fstab suggests that you can "allow a user to mount"
[06:10] <JoshJ> i'm not sure if that means a specific user or any user
[06:10] <frederick85> bazhang: where is the minimal install
[06:10] <MrPiracy> i am getting "Failed to load module "Type1" (module does not exist, 0)" can anyone tell me where to get this module?
[06:11] <JoshJ> i think it means "any" because my cdrom is listed as just "user" as opposed to my username *shrug*
[06:11] <bazhang> !minimal | frederick85
[06:11] <ubotu> frederick85: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[06:12] <bazhang> ncurses based frederick85
[06:12] <JoshJ> sounds like the debian installer
[06:12] <bazhang> a bit like the netboot from debian
[06:13] <jimmygoon> how long does it take to generate rainbow tables?
[06:13] <bazhang> got to go out for a bit, back in a while
[06:14] <MrPiracy> anyone here using intel onboard videocard?
[06:14] <MrPiracy> !find intel
[06:14] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xorg-video-intel, intel2gas, rng-tools
[06:15] <Sonja> how do i view the text to be trsanlated in its proper context?
[06:15] <JoshJ> look at the code or run the app yourself?
[06:15] <JoshJ> (assuming you're talking about translating applications, that is)
[06:15] <c0mp13371331337> So I've got an oddball here.... My menu randomly generates duplicate entries for all options.  Haven't noticed what action may cause it, but it's fairly frequent, a few times a day or so.  It also generates an "Other" folder that has FOUR of each of my manually-entered entries and Wine programs....  Anyone else seen this?
[06:15] <wers> ubuntu can't detect my SD card while my windows xp can detect it. my O2 pocket pcs cant detect it as well
[06:15] <wers> any idea?
[06:17] <JoshJ> wers: what type of SD card slot do you have? is it USB or something else?
[06:17] <MrPiracy> anyone have idea why xorg.0.log says ... type1 (module does not exist)?
[06:17] <JoshJ> (ie: does it show in lspci ?)
[06:17] <J-e-f-f-A> Hi - anyone doing FTA with a Skystar 2 card that can give me some config help?  I've got /dev/dvb/adapter0, but cant' get a scan to work...
[06:18] <wers> JoshJ, usb slot on my ubuntu and built in reader in my xp lappy
[06:18] <JoshJ> wers: if your sd slot is connected by USB it should treat it as a standard USB mass storage device
[06:18] <Madpilot> Anyone else using Epiphany on 7.10 find the 'middle click close' extension doesn't actually work?
[06:18] <JoshJ> but if it's builtin it's probably something else
[06:19] <wers> JoshJ,
[06:19] <wers> my other sd cards work with this usb reader
[06:19] <WGGMk> I am having an issue with mounting a samba share via "sudo -t smbfs" and not being able to write to the directory as a user (only lets root) when using "-o umask=755"?????
[06:19] <fsckr> whats the command to clear the font cache?
[06:19] <nickrud> sheesh, I'll go install epiphany just for you, Madpilot :p
[06:19] <Myrtti> WGGMk: normal
[06:19] <victor__> hello every body
[06:19] <dirkg3nt1y> Madpilot, theres two of them in my epiphany, the first works the second doesn't
[06:20] <Madpilot> nickrud, it's a nice browser, except that in Gutsy some of the extensions seem busted
[06:20] <JoshJ> wers: oh, the card itself is the problem and you know the reader works? interesting... not sure how to help then :/
[06:20] <WGGMk> Myrtti: heya.. remember me from earlier.. pastebin warning haha
[06:20] <nickrud> Madpilot, I used it a lot on my older computer, it so much lighter than firefox
[06:20] <wers> in computer:///, i can see my usb reader
[06:20] <Madpilot> dirkg3nt1y, on 7.10? interesting, only one listed on my epiph install here, and it's busted
[06:21] <wers> but the reader can't detect the card
[06:21] <Myrtti> WGGMk: use gid and uid. oh, and cifs, not smbfs
[06:21]  * nickrud mutters about installing the wrong epiphany *again*
[06:21] <JoshJ> lol
[06:21] <WGGMk> Myrtti: cifs = windows right?
[06:21] <J-e-f-f-A> wers: Is the card that doesn't work > 1gb?
[06:22] <Myrtti> WGGMk: enhanced version of sorts of smbfs
[06:22] <dirkg3nt1y> << actually is on a gentoo box now :)))
[06:22] <Myrtti> mmmmmm cheesecake
[06:22] <wers> 4gb, J-e-f-f-A
[06:22] <wers> 4gb sd card
[06:22] <WGGMk> Myrtti: ahh, should i specify gid or uid or both? the directory is read/write to only a certain group... so is gid sufficient?
[06:23] <J-e-f-f-A> wers: Perhaps the reader can't handle the size of the card.   My laptop can't read a card > 1GB, but my other card readers can.
[06:23] <Myrtti> hmmmh
[06:23] <wers> my pocket pcs cant read it but my windows lappy can
[06:23] <wers> ooooh
[06:23] <wers> that's so interesting
[06:23] <wers> so I should think of buying a new one?
[06:23] <Myrtti> wers: SD specs mention max size of 2gb
[06:23] <dirkg3nt1y> yes
[06:23] <wers> btw, my pocket pcs can read the 2gb card
[06:24] <wers> oooh
[06:24] <Myrtti> wers: everything more than that aren't officially sd
[06:24] <danfg> carpediem: java --version gives me "Could not create the Java virtual machine.", but eclipse seems to be working fine now. :( wierd!
[06:24] <wers> what do you mean not officially sd?
[06:24] <WGGMk> Myrtti: what are the parameters for using cifs? and to pass the gid option??
[06:24] <JoshJ> danfg: do update-java-alternatives
[06:24] <Myrtti> wers: they might or might not work
[06:24] <JoshJ> (to whichever one you want your command-line usage to be)
[06:25] <JoshJ> it doesn't affect eclipse at all
[06:25] <Onyx> w00t, got wine & my CAC Reader working.
[06:25] <carpediem> danfg: well, eclipse looks several places, so java maybe not set on the path, but eclispe is finding it anyway
[06:25] <danfg> JoshJ: --list? java-1.5.0-sun, java-6-sun, and java-gcj
[06:25] <Myrtti> WGGMk: sorry, I can't remember off hand :-C
[06:25] <JoshJ> well which one do you want to use on the command line? :p
[06:25] <J-e-f-f-A> wers: I just know that my 2GB SD card I bought for my camera a year or two ago doesn't even get recognized in my P4 laptop's slot.  But using a USB reader, it works fine.
[06:25] <wers> ooh. this is the disadvantage of this huge sd
[06:25] <wers> deym
[06:25] <WGGMk> Myrtti: its cool, thats why god, on the 8th day (yes i know its 8) created google
[06:25] <JoshJ> danfg: just do --set java-6-sun (or whichever)
[06:25] <Onyx> Is the McAfee AntiVirus suite for Linux any good?
[06:26] <wers> i should have bought a 2gb one instead
[06:26] <wers> wasted money. deym. hehe
[06:26] <JoshJ> Onyx: um... why do you need anything beyond Clam?
[06:26] <Myrtti> wers: only recent mobile phone models support >2gb
[06:26] <Onyx> JoshJ: What's Clam?  Gotta forgive me dude... been out of Linux for 6 years now
[06:26] <dirkg3nt1y> y do u need clam
[06:26] <Myrtti> some do unofficially
[06:26] <JoshJ> clam is an antivirus program for linux
[06:26] <danfg> JoshJ: i've been setting it to all three, eclipse works when i set it to java-6-sun, but java --version doesn't work (unrecognized command --version, no java vm)
[06:26] <JoshJ> free, gpl, etc
[06:26] <WGGMk> Onyx: there is a really good description of the difference between the need for an antivirus between windows and linux users' on the forums
[06:27] <hwilde> what is the best way to launch a program (daemon) and keep it running continuously, and catch when it stops running to throw a red flag
[06:27] <Onyx> JoshJ: Ah, I see... I can get McAfee for free though (DoD Employee)
[06:27] <wers> i bought this 4gb sd because i'm thinking of buying an eee pc. any idea if this will work with the eee?
[06:27] <Onyx> JoshJ: Yes, I realize it's not "free" software :P
[06:27] <dirkg3nt1y> daemons don't normally just quit hwilde
[06:27] <Madpilot> Onyx, why waste time with an antivirus at all in Linux?
[06:27] <JoshJ> wers: #eeepc exists, you may want to check that
[06:28] <Onyx> Madpilot: I seem to recall some vicious virii when I was using Linux.
[06:28] <WGGMk> Onyx: this a very informational link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812 about Security in Ubuntu
[06:28] <Onyx> Once again, this was years ago.
[06:28] <wers> wow
[06:28] <wers> cool
[06:28] <danfg> carpediem, JoshJ: damn i'm tired, i'll work on this tomorrow. you guys are awesome, thanks for all your help
[06:28] <Onyx> WGGMk: Thank you, I'll get to reading :D
[06:28] <wers> thanks Joshj
[06:28] <Madpilot> Onyx, um, No. There have been basically no Linux viruses in the wild.
[06:28] <danfg> i must catch some Zs, cya
[06:28] <hwilde> dirkg3nt1y, maybe it runs out of memory or something.  that is not the point really...  if u launch from init.d what keeps it running
[06:28] <Elly> is Ubuntu likely to have PaX any time soon?
[06:29] <Yurivilca> http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Mike_Huckabee_If_you_vote_for_me_you_live_if_you_don_t
[06:29] <Yurivilca> Check out this candidate's latest psychotic utterance!
[06:29] <WGGMk> Onyx: its very friendly in terms of translation for migrating user's.. I found it extermely helpful in understanding how Linux is built
[06:29] <dirkg3nt1y> daemons become processes that run in the background you can view running processes with "ps -A"
[06:30] <hwilde> dirkg3nt1y, what monitors the daemons to guarantee  they are running or restart them if necessary
[06:30] <dirkg3nt1y> well ubuntu uses the rc init program, I not real familiar with it though.
[06:31] <hwilde> dirkg3nt1y, so does it run on some type of schedule and check if the daemon is running?  is it like crontab or what
[06:31] <JoshJ> pretty sure it's in /etc/init.d somewhere
[06:32] <LoneLy> hy leh knalan ga........
[06:32] <hwilde> the processes in /etc/init.d are just running in the background.  i can kill them and they do not respawn.  is there a way to monitor them and restart automatically or throw an alert
[06:33] <Onyx> It's pretty unbelievable how much better Linux has gotten since I last used it...
[06:33] <JoshJ> hwilde: cat out a file in /etc/init.d
[06:33] <JoshJ> and look at its comments
[06:34] <JoshJ> i have tor installed, i see the following, for example: # Required-Start:    $local_fs, $remote_fs, $network, $named, $time
[06:34] <JoshJ> # Should-Start:      $syslog
[06:34] <JoshJ> # Default-Start:     2 3 4 5
[06:35] <Gurby> hi
[06:35] <timfrost> hwilde: processes listed in /etc/init.d/* (or upstart equivalent) are not automatically restarted.  If a task is specified in /etc/inittab (or equivalent) as "respawn", then init will restart it when it exits
[06:35] <JoshJ> unfortunately i don't really know the details of how init works
[06:35] <hwilde> timfrost, excellent and where does it restart, i want to send myself an email there
[06:35] <Filled-Void> Why wouldnt i be able to change my resolution of my monitor suddenly? I could before now Im not sure what changed :/
[06:36] <JoshJ> Filled-Void: have you installed anything recently?
[06:37] <Jonathan> hi
[06:37] <Filled-Void> JoshJ, nothing that I guess. maybe battle fo wesnoth but I was able to use the resolution then
[06:37] <timfrost> hwilde: you can't send an email - the init process itself notes that the task has exited, and will automatically restart it - that is what the respawn option in /etc/inittab means
[06:37] <JoshJ> Filled-Void: hrm. are you on ATI or nvidia?
[06:37] <Jonathan> I need help with installing wireless for ubuntu on my PC
[06:37] <Filled-Void> JoshJ, nVidia 8600GT
[06:37] <Jonathan> Please help me sbody
[06:37] <JoshJ> hwilde: if you have the code to the process, you could make it send an email whenever it starts
[06:38] <hwilde> timfrost, yeah but this seems like it might make the system unstable.  i might just use crontab
[06:38] <hwilde> JoshJ, so you're saying inittab respawn will call the daemon's restart method
[06:38] <JoshJ> heck, without the code you could create a shell script that replaced the normal executable file, sends an email, and then starts the program
[06:38] <Jonathan> is there anybody who canhelp me installing wireless
[06:38] <JoshJ> hwilde: presumably?
[06:38] <JoshJ> !wifi | Jonathan
[06:38] <ubotu> Jonathan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:38] <JoshJ> i mean, why wouldn't it?
[06:38] <nickrud> hwilde, and inittab is replaced by the scripts in /etc/event.d , you can see an example in tty1 in that dir
[06:38] <JoshJ> Filled-Void: which driver? the free one or the proprietary one?
[06:38] <Jonathan> ok
[06:39] <Jonathan> so can I find guidence thre
[06:39] <hwilde> JoshJ, I have this shell script.  It starts the file, checks the pid every 3s, restarts, sends email.  But this monitor script Also Dies sometimes :/
[06:39] <Filled-Void> JoshJ, Restricted. Would installing thmes have any effect on screen resolution?
[06:39] <Jonathan> for
[06:39] <Jonathan> wireless
[06:39] <JoshJ> Filled-Void: possibly. the restricted one can't really be helped; nobody here has the code for it etc
[06:39] <hwilde> nickrud, but how does it monitor them... is it a sleep timer or in crontab or just continuous cpu usage
[06:39] <Jonathan> i will look at that thank you very much!
[06:40] <Jonathan> Ubotu
[06:40] <hwilde> !fixres |
[06:40] <ubotu> : The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:40] <JoshJ> Filled-Void: if you recently switched, that could be the reason
[06:40] <JoshJ> and yeah, check that
[06:40] <Filled-Void> JoshJ, i did try some icon themes and gtk themes maybe Let me try resettign everyhtignback and remove awn
[06:40] <hwilde> FixVideoResolutionHowto on the wiki
[06:40] <nickrud> hwilde, the init process controls that ....  as long as it's running
[06:40] <Fezzler> In Ubuntu 7.10, how can I get a simple Web Server running and a page serving the files I wish to download to my handheld?
[06:40] <nickrud> hwilde, but if init dies, so does the computer
[06:40] <J-e-f-f-A> Is a5benwillis still around?
[06:41] <hwilde> nickrud, yeah i am not trying to make it less stable here obviously... but my program dies sometimes, and the monitor script can also die (rare but true).  I either have to wrap it with another monitor script or add to crontab
[06:41] <scguy318> Fezzler: install and configure Apache, though the latter part I can't tell you much about
[06:41] <JoshJ> Fezzler: apache? though i'm not sure how "simple" apache is
[06:42] <hwilde> !lampp | Fezzler
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lampp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <timfrost> hwilde, JoshJ: NO , init will NOT call a script's restart method.  Scripts in /etc/init.d are only called if they have a link in /etc/rcX.d named to start with S (start) or K (kill), and are called as the run level changes
[06:42] <adamonline46> Dangit, once again I've wasted 30+ mins ripping a DVD.  Does anyone know what it takes to make a default install of Kubuntu with k9copy successfully rip a dvd?  The sounds seems to work, but that's about it... The video is just a black screen, or in the past, a still screeny of the .avi
[06:42] <achandrashekar> yo..is there a better guide than the advanced bash scripting guide out there to learn bash scripting and get a better handle on sed and awk?
[06:42] <JoshJ> !lamp
[06:42] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:42] <hwilde> timfrost, yeh thats what i thought... can't just us the restart method
[06:42] <hwilde> Fezzler, yeah lamp that's waht you want. I thought it was spelled lampp tho.  or xampp
[06:43] <Fezzler> I'm trying to link an old HP620LX WinCE 2.11 device to my Ubuntu PC.  Multisync did not work.  I know have a ppp connection between the two devices but stumped on how to get files across?
[06:43] <hwilde> timfrost, so I should just monitor it with crontab then?  how is crontab guaranteed to run every minute
[06:43] <JoshJ> Fezzler: SSH?
[06:44] <Cra2> i'm attempting to install a .prc on my new treo, but i can't find anything besides changing owner name in gnome-pilot
[06:44] <achandrashekar> Is there support for Sparc distro of Ubuntu?
[06:44] <Fezzler> hwilde: Is LAMP a lot to go through to exchange a few files?
[06:44] <JoshJ> Fezzler: are they both connected over the internet?
[06:44] <nickrud> hwilde, you might find monit interesting ... as long as it doesn't die either :)
[06:44] <Fezzler> Joshj: How?
[06:44] <JoshJ> Fezzler: or are they networked together somehow?
[06:45] <Fezzler> JoshJ: Direct Connection using ttyS0 on Ubuntu and ppp on CE device
[06:45] <nickrud> hwilde, here's a brief howto http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-monitor-and-restart-linux-unix-service.html
[06:46] <JoshJ> i've never used ttys0 :(
[06:46] <cHeChA_cE_EmO> #jakarta
[06:46] <Fezzler> Joshj: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49663/
[06:47] <mitha_muAni3sTh> #jakarta
[06:47] <hwilde> nickrud, that is interesting nice googling.  but i think i trust a crontab 2minute rather than that unknown monit package lol
[06:48] <JoshJ> Fezzler: sorry, but i really can't help you if you're doing it that way. given an internet connection (or even a LAN connection) you can use SSH, FTP, HTTP, whatever
[06:48] <JoshJ> hopefully you figure it out because you really shouldn't need to do it via internet *shrug*
[06:49] <timfrost> hwilde: Yes, crontab is probably best.  Put an explicit entry in /etc/crontab like '* * * * * root <cmd>' where <cmd> is the script to check the status of your process, and restart it if necessary.   The 'root' entry specifies to run the script as the root user.  The asterisks tell cron to schedule it every minute.  There are other places to put scripts that are run on a daily or hourly interval, but those scripts
[06:50] <Fezzler> JoshJ: It also suggests "using an off-site web server"
[06:50] <hwilde> timfrost,  u mean goto superuser type crontab -e and add   */2 * * * * cmd
[06:50] <Fezzler> JoshJ: "Start up 'Pocket Explorer' and enter the URL of you desktop machine, which should have a Web Server running and a page serving the software you wish to download. If you want to use an off-site web server then the IP-forwarding will need to  be configure correctly - This is too complicated to explain here. "
[06:50] <JoshJ> no, it's actually suggesting you don't use an offsite one
[06:51] <JoshJ> your desktop machine is easy for it to get to, otherwise requires forwarding
[06:51] <timfrost> hwilde:
[06:51] <timfrost> hwilde: Yes, or sudo vi /etc/crontab
[06:52] <hwilde> timfrost, u should use crontab -e never edit that file directly
[06:52] <Fezzler> JoshJ: In the PocketPC browser I'm loading http://<IP_ADDRESS>.  Is that good enough?
[06:53] <JoshJ> Fezzler: do you have the web server set up?
[06:53] <JoshJ> that stands a pretty good chance of being it (or <IP_ADDRESS>) but it's pointless if you don't have a webserver set up :p
[06:54] <Fezzler> JoshJ: No.  That's what I don't know how/what to do.  I have Ubuntu 7.10 set up.
[06:54] <JoshJ> Fezzler: just do sudo apt-get install sshd
[06:54] <Fezzler> JoshJ: LAMP is recommended?
[06:54] <JoshJ> if the CE thing has SSH, anyway
[06:54] <JoshJ> if you need a full-fledged webserver, yes, LAMP
[06:54] <JoshJ> i have no idea how apache works though :/
[06:55] <Fezzler> JoshJ: WHat os ssh and how will it alter my existing Ubuntu set up?
[06:55] <MrPiracy> could anyone please tell me how i can reinstall module TYPE1? xorg.0.log says this module does not exist
[06:55] <JoshJ> sshd lets you receive SSH connections (you already have the outgoing SSH program)
[06:56] <Fezzler> JoshJ: I believe I have ssh installed.
[06:56] <JoshJ> you do have the outgoing one, you probably don't have the incoming one
[06:56] <J-e-f-f-A> anyone doing FTA here?
[06:56] <ogre> whats a good video joining app?
[06:56] <JoshJ> basically you just do ssh username@ipaddress and then you can do what you need to.. for file transfer you'll end up using scp, but that's done over ssh
[06:56] <achandrashekar> Anyone doing anything cool with asterisk and Ubuntu?
[06:57] <adamonline46> Do I need any special packages to play a .avi?
[06:57] <Cra2> how do i run gnome-pilot? i can run gnome-pilot settings and gnome-pilot-make-password, but not gnome-pilot
[06:57] <carpediem> adamonline46: depends, avi is just a wrapper
[06:57] <JoshJ> if you have PUTTY, winSCP or similar on the CE, or a SSH program of some sort, you can use SSH to transfer stuff
[06:57] <Fezzler> JoshJ: Wow.  Perhaps I should go the terminal route, like minicom
[06:57] <RoshanK> adamonline46, i believe that the easiest would be to install vlc that should install the codecs required
[06:58] <JoshJ> scp SourceFile.ext user@host:directory/TargetFile.ext
[06:58] <JoshJ> scp user@host:folder/SourceFile.ext TargetFile.ext
[06:58] <JoshJ> (if you're using SCP)
[06:58] <Alchera> http://www.medibuntu.org/ <==
[06:58] <JoshJ> it's part of ssh though, and obviously the @host one has to have sshd installed
[06:58] <adamonline46> carpediem: Oh really?  Hmm.  That's news to me.  I'm wondering if I'm having problems ripping video, or playing my rips.  I really dunno where to go from here...
[06:58] <JoshJ> you could also use telnet actually, i'm pretty sure CE has telnet built in
[06:59] <adamonline46> RoshanK: I'll search for that package, thank you
[06:59] <bullgard4> Is there a Synaptic procedure available which is roughly equivalent to apt-cache show <package-name>?
[06:59] <Fezzler> JoshJ: I would learn a lot, which is my goal with Ubuntu, but that seems complicated.  I could also stick an Ethernet card in the HP620LX and connect via internet
[06:59] <timfrost> !avi | adamonline46
[06:59] <ubotu> adamonline46: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:59] <mapez> Has anyone here got their Wii remotes working with Ubuntu?
[07:00] <JoshJ> Fezzler: well, if you did it via internet you'd need some sort of internet file transfer
[07:00] <JoshJ> which would be HTTP (web pages, requiring apache or some other web server); FTP; SSH (SCP); Telnet; whatever
[07:00] <bullgard4> Kann man mittels Synaptic zu einem ähnlichen Ergebnis kommen wie mittels des Befehls apt-cache show <Paketname>?
[07:00] <JoshJ> unless you're doing it by e-mailing yourself, but that's not how you're "supposed" to do it
[07:01] <Myrtti> !de | bullgard4
[07:01] <ubotu> bullgard4: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:01] <Fezzler> JoshJ: WinCE has ScottyFTP and Firefox has FTP too
[07:01] <JoshJ> bullgard4: if you highlight the program in synaptic , right-click, properties, and hit "description" you can get a lot of it
[07:02] <ogre> can anyone tell me the name of a good video joining app?
[07:02] <JoshJ> Fezzler: Firefox's FTP is a downloader, not a server. you'll need a FTP server such as ftpd
[07:02] <Fezzler> JoshJ: For my own education, with some sort of sock on Pocket Explorer connecting to my Ubuntu pc, and Ubuntu establishing a ppp connection, what do I have?
[07:02] <Alchera> god i love google
[07:03] <Fezzler> joshJ: samba?
[07:03] <JoshJ> Fezzler: no
[07:03] <JoshJ> i think it's just an internet forwarding type thing
[07:03] <Alchera> it goes stereo with cider
[07:03] <JoshJ> i'm not very familiar with ppp
[07:03] <Fezzler> JoshJ: Well how do CE devices "see" windows file systems?
[07:03] <JoshJ> as NTFS
[07:03] <alfermp> hey guys can anyone have a link for intall cairo-dock?
[07:04] <Fezzler> JoshJ: Ubuntu have NTSF?
[07:04] <JoshJ> samba is for networked file systems
[07:04] <JoshJ> (and to windows, it's "SMB")
[07:04] <JoshJ> Fezzler: NTFS is a file system, you don't use it to transfer files
[07:05] <JoshJ> so unless you can mount the palm's hard drive as a NTFS drive in Ubuntu that's not relevant
[07:05] <JoshJ> (if you can, that's a pretty easy way to transfer stuff)
[07:05] <Fezzler> JoshJ: Well, when a CE device is connected to WIN98, the device is mounted and you can drag n drop files
[07:05] <alfermp> hey guys can anyone tell me a link for install cairo-dock?
[07:05] <JoshJ> Fezzler: it's possible, check ntfs-config and see if it finds a NTFS drive that matches your palm
[07:05] <Fezzler> JoshJ: this is interesting
[07:06] <Fezzler> JoshJ: Now?
[07:06] <mapez> Has anyone here got their wiimotes working?
[07:06] <JoshJ> Fezzler: if it's plugged up, sure
[07:06] <adamonline46> timfrost: I'm already using the latest kubuntu-restricted-extras (I'm on 7.10)... Any other ideas?
[07:07] <bullgard4> JoshJ: As an example I have taken the program package 'debian-archive-keyring'. I cannot extract half as much information when using Synaptics as you suggested compared with apt-cache show debian-archive-keyring.
[07:07] <Fezzler> JoshJ: Where do I find ntfs-config, command line?
[07:07] <rich1> hi.  i can't play yahoo chess on opera.  i'm using gutsy and opera 9.25.
[07:07] <JoshJ> it's a program
[07:07] <JoshJ> you probably have to install it
[07:07] <JoshJ> sudo apt-get install ntfs-config, then run it via command line or alt-f2
[07:07] <Fezzler> JoshJ: GNOME menu item or command line app?
[07:07] <JoshJ> it's in the gnome menu for me
[07:07] <jjgan> hello
[07:08] <alfermp> Hey guys can anyone tell me a link for install cairo-dock?
[07:08] <ElFwTer> :)
[07:09] <jjgan> i ve a problem, i m using the last stable ubuntu for programing LAMP but i ve no access to internet with this computer, so i need the pakage to install apache and co but how I can resolve dependency ?
[07:09] <adamonline46> RoshanK: Is VLC just another ripper?
[07:09] <Alchera> alfermp: http://www.gnome-dock.org/trac
[07:09] <timfrost> adamonline46: if the links ubotu suggested don't help, then I have no ideas.   I run Gnome, and don't use the PC for audio or video :-(
[07:09] <JoshJ> alfermp: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=302570  <-- circa last year though
[07:09] <alfermp> Alchera, The requested URL /trac was not found on this server.
[07:09] <adamonline46> timfrost: That's ok, I understand.  Thank you anyway!
[07:10] <LordOfThePigs> how can I find out which driver I use for my wifi Atheros card
[07:10] <rich1> how do i call ubotu for info?
[07:10] <alfermp> tk u JoshJ
[07:10] <JoshJ> rich1: do !subject
[07:10] <JoshJ> ie, !wifi or !flash
[07:10] <rich1> !yahoo
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <rich1> !opera
[07:10] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[07:10] <Myrtti> !msg
[07:10] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[07:11] <Myrtti> urgh
[07:11] <rich1> tx, joshj.
[07:11] <SJrX> I'm trying to install some packages and there seems to be a collision in some files. That is that they are trying to touch the exact same file. How can I get apt to not treat this like an error.
[07:11] <LordOfThePigs> !atheros
[07:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:11] <SJrX> I realize that this might be bad in general, but for these packages it won't be an issue.
[07:11] <ElFwTer> Who knows about crack the router?
[07:11] <JoshJ> SJrX: you can do force, but you're better off trying to solve the problem
[07:12] <ElFwTer> Who knows about crack the router?
[07:12] <Myrtti> ElFwTer: why are you asking
[07:12] <Alchera> alfermp: if ound this also >> https://developer.berlios.de/projects/cairo-dock/
[07:12] <timfrost> !ask | ElFwTer
[07:12] <SJrX> JoshJ how do I do that with apt?
[07:12] <ubotu> ElFwTer: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:13] <alfermp> perfect tk u Alchera
[07:13] <Alchera> :)
[07:13] <jjgan> how can i resolve dependency on my laptop without internet connection ?
[07:15] <dirkg3nt1y> apt-get probably has a pretend feature
[07:15] <JoshJ> SJrX:  you'll need to use dpkg and --force-conflicts, i think
[07:15] <Fezzler> JoshJ: ntfs-config not installed.  If I install it, will it confict with my Samba/SMB settings?
[07:15] <JoshJ> Fezzler: no, it shouldn't
[07:16] <Fezzler> shouldn't but could?
[07:16] <Kuroachia> I'm a bit curious. I reformated my Desktop and I'm yet to install an OS; can I set up two partitions and set up XP on one install and Ubuntu on the other?
[07:16] <JoshJ> i don't think it even touches smb stuff
[07:16] <JoshJ> Kuroachia: yeah
[07:16] <JoshJ> !dualboot
[07:16] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[07:17] <Kuroachia> Excellent, one other quick question. When I do boot up my system will it prompt me for the OS each time?
[07:17] <JoshJ> yes
[07:17] <JoshJ> Kuroachia: install windows first
[07:18] <JoshJ> it'll save you a headache :)
[07:18] <JoshJ> and read the instructions on that page
[07:18] <Fezzler> JoshJ: I think I'll go the Ethernet or terminal route tomorrow.
[07:18] <JoshJ> SJrX:  so download the .deb... apt-get install -d packagename then dpkg -i --force-conflicts package
[07:18] <Kuroachia> JoshJ: All right I'll take a look. Hopefully there won't be anything surprising. :)
[07:18] <Fezzler> I can serve files to my ISP home page and download them from there
[07:19] <SJrX> hmmmm no it's not a package conflict its files that get touched by it.
[07:19] <SJrX> Hmmmm
[07:19] <SJrX> damn KDE packages
[07:19] <JoshJ> SJrX: do man dpkg and look under the --force- options
[07:19] <SJrX> hmmm yeah I know that, I was hoping to do this with apt since there is a bunch and I don't want to download a crap load of debs.
[07:19] <JoshJ> overwrite may do what you want, breaks may do what you want, i'm not sure
[07:19] <Fezzler> JoshJ: seems odd that transfering files via serial port is so tough.  I do it with my old Tandy Model 100 on all sorts of devices
[07:20] <JoshJ> Fezzler: i'm sure it's actually quite easy, it's just that i don't know how to do it >_<
[07:20] <Fezzler> JoshJ: One last.  So I have a PPP connection between the two devices but no software to communicate?
[07:20] <JoshJ> i don't think i've plugged ANYTHING into a serial port in upwards of 5 years...
[07:21] <JoshJ> Fezzler: it's likely that you do (or that it's in the repositories, anyway) and just don't know what it is :/
[07:21] <rich1> ok.  i went through the comm help page for opera and still can't play yahoo chess in opera.  the applet loads then goes gray.  anyone have any ideas?
[07:21] <Batma8> hey guys..anyone in here use fedora?
[07:22] <BubblegumTate> I'm in xfce and my panels aren't showing and I can't bring up the panels manager. How can I kill/fix this?
[07:23] <dirkg3nt1y>  Is there a good website for infomation on ... irc?  I need to find some networks and channels - particularly an chanell for xbox.
[07:23] <dirkg3nt1y> BubblegumTate just run xfce-panel in the terminal - you can add it to the startup programs.
[07:23] <BubblegumTate> sankyuu
[07:24] <timfrost> Fezzler: For serial comms, ppp gives you an IP stack, but x/y/z modem may be better - these may be what the Tandy used
[07:24] <BubblegumTate> dirkg3nt1y: umm, it doesn't seem to be there?
[07:24] <JoshJ> dirkg3nt1y: does irssi have a grep-like command?
[07:25] <dirkg3nt1y> doh, uh what is that xfce-panel?  or the terminal app?
[07:25] <JoshJ> if so, just hop on a random IRC server and do /list and grep for "xbox"
[07:25] <dirkg3nt1y> JoshJ, I think it does, I've just started it.
[07:25] <JoshJ> you may want to do like /list 10 or /list 50 so you don't get 1000 channels :p
[07:25] <rich1> can anyone here help with opera?
[07:26] <cars> BubblegumTate: if nothing is coming up, you can save your work and just press ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X
[07:26] <BubblegumTate> I am fix it
[07:26] <BubblegumTate> it's called xfce4-panel
[07:26] <BubblegumTate> thanks
[07:27] <BubblegumTate> ... that sounds a bit sarky now that I read it back, but in fact it was genuine
[07:27] <SJrX> Hmmmm on second thought I really shouldn't have forced that
[07:28] <JoshJ> SJrX: what'd i say about forcing? :)
[07:29] <SJrX> :P
[07:29] <SJrX> yeah
[07:29] <SJrX> I've gotten out of worse
[07:29] <SJrX> I hate KDE 4
[07:30] <rich1> how do i use grep with the /list command?
[07:30] <JoshJ> same thing i told the other guy, i have no idea how irssi's grep works
[07:31] <Corporeal> ack
[07:31] <Corporeal> i hath been ping'd
[07:31]  * Casey slaps Thecks around a bit with a large trout
[07:31] <Corporeal> or maybe #ubuntu was
[07:31] <Corporeal> either way, twas weird. silly mirc
[07:31] <JoshJ> you could also log the /list and grep the log file normally *shrug*
[07:32] <Myrtti> Thecks: !
[07:32] <JoshJ> Corporeal: it's not mirc, it's Thecks doing a ping on everyone ;[
[07:32] <Corporeal> i thought so. weird.
[07:32] <Corporeal> holy crap. 19 second ping.
[07:32] <Thecks> =[
[07:32] <Corporeal> WHOA
[07:32]  * JoshJ groans
[07:32] <Myrtti> quit fooling around!
[07:32] <Corporeal> wow thats too much pinging.
[07:32] <Corporeal> im never doing that again
[07:33] <mapez> does anyone know if its possible to button map with cwiid?
[07:33] <Fezzler> JoshJ: Ubuntu=Minicom  HP=Fake dial command with numbers as 000-000-000  Fired right up
[07:33] <Thecks> My bad, sorry :S
[07:33] <JoshJ> Fezzler: lol
[07:33] <Fezzler> JoshJ: Tomorrow I try file exchanges
[07:33] <JoshJ> Fezzler: have fun :)
[07:35] <tempnic> wow
[07:37] <marx2k> quick question... if I have 32-bit Ubuntu installed, whats the easiest method of upgrading to 64 bit? Total reinstall?
[07:40] <qwerty121> Hi all! Installed build-essential. but can't find stdio.h in /usr/include. Any clue?
[07:41] <noshutdown> has anyone had problems with ubunt 7.10 live disk on amd systems with ati video cards?
[07:41] <sdornan> can't find stdio? that'd definitely not a good thing
[07:41] <Myrtti> qwerty121: sudo updatedb; locate stdio.h
[07:42] <Myrtti> qwerty121: do you have the headers and -dev files installed?
[07:42] <Slart> marx2k: afaik, yes. You'll have to reinstall
[07:43] <qwerty121> Myritti: dunno. How can i find out?
[07:43] <timfrost> marx2k: Correct - you can add 32-bit support to a 64-bit environment, but a full re-install is needed to convert from one to the other
[07:44] <marx2k> timfrost: damn. ok, thanks :) Any idea how stable the 64 bit is nowadays?
[07:44] <antixpaul> noshutdown I installed from the latest kubuntu a few days ago and my gfx is ati, I had so few problems I feel kind of cheated :(
[07:44] <Myrtti> qwerty121: what are you trying to compile anyway?
[07:44] <qwerty121> Myritti: C
[07:44] <Myrtti> qwerty121: what app?
[07:45] <qwerty121> Myritti: i am trying to compile c programs. Your code gave me this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49664/ But should not it be in /usr/include instead of /usr/include/bits?
[07:48] <antixpaul> with gcc?
[07:48] <qwerty121> yap
[07:48] <Kuroachia> Not to interrupt but another question if anyone has an answer. My laptop has been having trouble playing DVD's now that I have installed ubuntu and I'm wondering if it might be due to my videocard or my diskdrive? I've tried several DVD's and they all give me a sort of pixelated look (have a screenshot if you're wondering). Any recommendations? Like I said, there was no problem when I was using the factory pre-installed os&drivers.
[07:48] <Myrtti> qwerty121: it is in /usr/include
[07:48] <JoshJ> Kuroachia: have you installed the usual medibuntu stuff yet?
[07:49] <qwerty121> but you saw the output of locate stdio.h?
[07:49] <Myrtti> yeah?
[07:49] <Myrtti> it says it *is* in /usr/include
[07:49] <JoshJ> !medibuntu | Kuroachia
[07:49] <ubotu> Kuroachia: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[07:49] <JoshJ> (sorry, I'm headed to sleep now, it's 3 am)
[07:50] <JoshJ> good nght, hope you get it working
[07:50] <Myrtti> I need to get to work
[07:50] <timfrost> qwerty121:  did build-essential install? More significantly, did libc6-dev install (because that is the package containing  /usr/include/stdio.h?
[07:50] <qwerty121> Myritti: isn't it in /usr/include/bits/
[07:50] <qwerty121> timfrost: no, i dint. can you gimme the code
[07:50] <Myrtti> yes, it's there too
[07:51] <Myrtti> me, work. ciao
[07:51] <qwerty121> Myritti: oops! i am sorry. I missed it
[07:52] <antixpaul> why not just use apt qwerty121?
[07:52] <timfrost> qwerty121: sudo apt-get install  libc6-dev.   Should have been installed by 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[07:52] <qwerty121> tanx, timfrost
[07:53] <timfrost> qwerty121: good luck
[07:53] <BoyBs> ciaoo
[07:53] <qwerty121> timfrost: it's already installed
[07:53] <BoyBs> ci sono italiani qua?
[07:53] <RoshanK> timfrost, could you help me set azureus as the app that opens .torrent files?
[07:53] <mOrO^> My mp3 player is often times not recognized by my system. Can someone steer me?
[07:54] <RoshanK> m0r0^ what mp3 player do you have?
[07:54] <mOrO^> RCA
[07:54] <mOrO^> RoshanK, Opal
[07:54] <timfrost> qwerty121: there muist be other dependencies that you are missing.  What are you trying to build?
[07:54] <mOrO^> RoshanK, it recognizes and functions perfectly well, sometimes.
[07:55] <BoyBs> ci sono italiani qua?
[07:55] <ogre> !it BoyBs
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it boybs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:55] <ogre> !it | BoyBs
[07:55] <ubotu> BoyBs: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:56] <Alchera> BoyBs: ci non può essere
[07:56] <qwerty121> timfrost: please take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49665/ i am a n00b when it comes to C :(
[07:56] <RoshanK> m0r0^ well i not sure for RCA mp3 players but what i did for my creative zen vision m was first to update its firmware (you would get it from the manufacturer's site if any, i had to update firmware through windows) and then i installed gnomad2 through synaptic
[07:56] <timfrost> RoshanK: I don't use torrents
[07:56] <RoshanK> timfrost do you know how i can set specific app to handle a type of file?
[07:57] <ogre> RoshanK,  go to properties of the file u want to use
[07:58] <RoshanK> ogre, thank you
[07:58] <ogre> RoshanK,  no problem :)
[07:58] <Silver_Fox> hey, does anyone know how i can disable only the speakers on my laptop ?
[07:59] <antixpaul> Silver_Fox: you probably want to enable jacksense? so when you plug headphones in the speakers stop?
[07:59] <Silver_Fox> antixpaul,  OMG YEAS!!!!
[08:01] <antixpaul> right click the volume icon in your tray and open the mixer, there should be a switches tab with the option to enable jacksense
[08:01] <Silver_Fox> antixpaul,  sorry bout that, YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THAT THO!?>!?! how!~?
[08:01] <gkasinath> Hey all! Anyone had any luck with ATI X300 and dual head with different resolutions?
[08:01] <bullgard4> English help wanted. Could an owner of an English Ubuntu 7.10 release please nopaste the output of 'apt-cache show debian-archive-keyring'.
[08:02] <antixpaul> find it Silver_Fox?
[08:02] <timfrost> qwerty121: The main error is because of the quote characters - single quote (') is for ONE CHARACTER while doube quotes (") is for a string
[08:03] <Silver_Fox> antixpaul,  what? did u send me a link? i loged out by accedent
[08:03] <Hellevator> has anyone been able to successfully connect to their TI calc with TILP?
[08:03] <lonejack_> Hi all, what is the best SVN with GUI to install on gnome?
[08:03] <antixpaul> 08:01 < antixpaul> right click the volume icon in your tray and open the mixer, there should be a switches tab with the option to enable jacksense
[08:03] <gkasinath> Hey all! Anyone had any luck with ATI X300 and dual head with different resolutions?
[08:04] <antixpaul> the mixer you have will depend on whether you're using gnome or kde, in kde it's called KMix
[08:04] <jeffgr> gkasinath: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:04] <sunugg> how do I set vim to undo last few commands I did, its defaulting to 1 history line only now
[08:05] <nina-palma> hola
[08:05] <nina-palma> necesito ayuda
[08:06] <Slart> !es | nina-palma
[08:06] <ubotu> nina-palma: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[08:06] <bullgard4> que ayuda queres?
[08:06] <jeffgr> gkasinath: I think in Gutsy, you can just open up the Screen and Graphics Preferences and configure dual-head with a GUI window
[08:06] <nina-palma> soy muy novata en esto
[08:06] <nina-palma> no pude instalar el grub
[08:06] <bullgard4> nina-palma: Es necessario hablar in Engles aqui.
[08:06] <nina-palma> lo siento
[08:07] <gkasinath> Jeffgr, I tried that and it didnt work. I have also tried a couple of howtos from ubuntuforums.org with not much luck.
[08:07] <gkasinath> Jeffgr, I m running Gutsy btw.
[08:07] <jeffgr> gkasinath: do you have the restricted ATI drivers?
[08:07] <timfrost> qwerty121: The main error is because of the quote characters - single quote (') is for ONE CHARACTER while doube quotes (") is for a string.  You need to use the correct quotes.
[08:08] <gkasinath> yes, I downloaded that via the restricted driver manager. I also tried the driver (catalyst) from ATI, whats the difference between them btw?
[08:09] <gkasinath> Jeffgr, sorry I forgot to highlite you on my previous response which is: yes, I downloaded that via the restricted driver manager. I also tried the driver (catalyst) from ATI, whats the difference between them btw?
[08:10] <jeffgr> gkasinath: i don't really know, i have an nvidia card, but hold on i'm looking some stuff up for you
[08:10] <timfrost> qwerty121_:  the example you cited needs double quotes (") because it is a string ("Hi!")
[08:10] <luke_> antixpaul,   So, how do i get this jacksesne thingy?
[08:10] <Lustblader> my internet works only when i am on the live cd and not when i'm on ubuntu proper
[08:10] <gkasinath> Jeffgr, okie.. I have already tried: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174&highlight=ATI+X300+dual+head and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=592016&highlight=ATI+X300+dual+head and am about to try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773710
[08:10] <antixpaul> are you using gnome or kde luke_ ?
[08:11] <luke_> er, i duno, gnome i think.
[08:11] <luke_> Wait, compiz
[08:11] <luke_> fusion
[08:11] <luke_> antixpaul,  gnome
[08:12] <jeffgr> gkasinath: x.org has some beta driver for R300
[08:12] <jeffgr> gkasinath: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/R300_Portal here is info about your card..
[08:13] <jeffgr> gkasinath: sorry, i don't think i'm the best at helping you with this.. i don't have an ATi card :-/
[08:13] <gkasinath> thanks for that mate, I ll give it a shot too.
[08:13] <antixpaul> luke_: you should have a volume icon in your system tray? if you open it and go to the "mixer" there should be a switches tab with the option to enable jacksense
[08:13] <antixpaul> luke_: I'm using KDE at the moment so I can't check
[08:13] <luke_> antixpaul,  nope, nothing called jacksense
[08:13] <gkasinath> Jeffgr, thanks again mate, you have pointed me to a direction I wasnt looking, thats a lot of help! :)
[08:13] <jeffgr> gkasinath: no problem
[08:14] <gkasinath> Jeffgr, do you know the difference between the ATI driver from ATI, DRI, VESA and MergedFB ones?
[08:14] <luke_> antixpaul,  is it called off hook?
[08:15] <luke_> antixpaul,  isent there a way to just disable the laptop speakers?
[08:16] <kraut> moin
[08:18] <New> :0
[08:18] <New> :)
[08:19] <jeffgr> gkasinath: sorry the late response, if you are still there i can tell you
[08:19] <jeffgr> jeffgr: the vesa driver you don't want because that is like a generic thing
[08:20] <jeffgr> gkasinath: the vesa driver you don't want because that is like a generic thing
[08:20] <gkasinath> okie
[08:20] <gkasinath> jeffgr, okie. So no to VESA
[08:21] <jeffgr> gkasinath: DRI allows you to do 3d accelerated stuff i think, you can read more about it here: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[08:21] <antixpaul> luke_: not tht I know of, I've always used jacksense
[08:21] <gkasinath> Jeffgr, yup, reading that.
[08:22] <jeffgr> gkasinath: MergedFB seems like what you want.. it says it allows for dual heads
[08:22] <jeffgr> gkasinath: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/MergedFB
[08:22] <gkasinath> jeffgr, okie.. I havent tried MergedFB yet I am going to try it in a moment.
[08:23] <jeffgr> gkasinath: good luck
[08:24] <gkasinath> jeffgr, on my desktop, which was running Windoze till I pulled it out and installed Ubuntu (I am very impressed with Ubuntu, which I have been using on my notebook since 6.06), I could have the task bar give separate list of windows. Can the same be done w/ ubuntu mergedfb? watdya reckon?
[08:25] <jeffgr> gkasinath: i'm pretty sure you can..
[08:25] <jeffgr> gkasinath: so you want it to span on to both screens as one bar?
[08:26] <frederick85> I had a problem installing ubuntu from alternative cd
[08:26] <frederick85> when it gets to the point scanning apt mirror it freezes
[08:26] <frederick85> so I keep pulling out of installation at that point
[08:26] <gkasinath> Jeffgr, well, I dont want it to span both screens as one bar. Infact I want both screens to be independent w/ different desktop wallpaper and gamma settings.
[08:27] <luke_> antixpaul, will it fix my problems if i switch to kde?
[08:27] <jeffgr> gkasinath: okay, well you can actually do that pretty easily
[08:28] <jeffgr> gkasinath: when you make the task bar, just set it to show windows from only the current workspace
[08:28] <bil1> hello everybody... is the tracker-tool working with ubuntu 6.10? for me (on 3 different machines, some in english, some in german) it does not work, i.e. when I search something, I get "some results" , but in the details window, there is nothing shown.
[08:28] <jeffgr> gkasinath: (it is by default), so i guess you just need to have both monitors on separate workspaces
[08:29] <frederick85> ubuntu's alternative installer's broken
[08:29] <sodearz> hey all
[08:29] <luke_> antixpaul,  can you help me with this please?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620928&goto=nextnewest    i'm a noob and i think this might work.
[08:30] <slyder> i'm trying to apply  a ppf patch with applyppf and when i enter the command it tells me the file doesn't exist even though i can see it when i do a ls of the directory and also inside of the file manager, anyone know why it says it doesn't exist?
[08:30] <jeffgr> frederick85: have you verified the cd to make sure it was burned correctly?
[08:31] <jeffgr> slyder: i think what you need to do is ./filename instead of just filename
[08:31] <gkasinath> Jeffgr, uumm.. well you lost me entirely mate. Here is what I have.. I have two monitors, one a Benq 202W (22" widescreen) which is to be my primary and I have a Dell 1907FP as secondary. The pri has 1680x1050 resolution and the secondary should have 1280x1024 resolution. Problem 1: The resolution of secondary is not at 1280x1024, although I have set the same in xorg.conf. Problem 2: When I added a new panel to secondary monitor an
[08:31] <gkasinath> d included the window list thingy, it displays all windows.
[08:31] <slyder> ok i'll give that a try jeffgr
[08:31] <gkasinath> jeffgr, sorry about the long message.
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[08:32] <frederick85> jeffgr: no theres a flaw in installer design and when it comes to scanning apt mirror it freezes
[08:32] <sodearz> -list
[08:32] <frederick85> jeffgr: it doesn't let you specify an apt mirror
[08:32] <jeffgr> what the heck is hotsaunce_drinker?
[08:32] <Amaranth> hotsauce_drinker: Don't do that.
[08:32] <hyper___ch> hiho, I wonder why the DesktopCD does not offer full-system encryption upon installation?
[08:32] <slyder> tried the ./filename still says that file doesn't exist
[08:33] <jeffgr> slyder: can you tell me the exact command
[08:33] <antixpaul> luke_: open add/remove programs then search for "gnome alsa mixer"
[08:34] <luke_> antixpaul,  installed that, i just need help compiling the other things
[08:34] <jeffgr> gkasinath: okay, so on the workspace manager, do the workspaces look extra wide?
[08:34] <gkasinath> jeffgr, yup. :(
[08:34] <slyder> applyppf RESIDENT_EVIL_EXTINCTION.iso patch.ppf, this was before trying your ./filename jeffgr
[08:35] <frederick85> jeffgr: it is the same with debian, It forces me to use primitive mirrors on installation
[08:35] <jeffgr> gkasinath: okay so you are spanning displays so it thinks it is one screen basically
[08:35] <frederick85> jeffgr: there is no option of networkless installation is there?
[08:35] <antixpaul> luke_: just "sudo apt-get install alsa-base"
[08:35] <frederick85> from alternative
[08:35] <jeffgr> frederick85: i was just about to say your network card might not be recognized by default
[08:35] <luke_> antixpaul,  will that install all the plugins?
[08:36] <jeffgr> slyder: can you type applyppf --help
[08:36] <frederick85> jeffgr: the config for it worked and dhcp worked, problem is scanning the apt mirror doesn't so perhaps server is down
[08:36] <antixpaul> luke_: I'm not sure but I doubt you need them
[08:36] <frederick85> jeffgr: i'd like a minimal ubuntu installation without network, so I can configure it to a local server and do it myself later, thats the fun of it
[08:36] <luke_> antixpaul,  doesent work :(
[08:37] <gkasinath> jeffgr, hhmm... okie.. I do have two device, monitor and screen sections in xorg.conf to represent each of them.
[08:37] <slyder> yea i did that jeffgr but file help also does not exist haha
[08:37] <jeffgr> frederick85: maybe so, try installing it with the network cable unplugged, i'm pretty sure you don't need internet to install it
[08:37] <antixpaul> luke_: did you open the gnome alsa mixer?
[08:37] <jeffgr> slyder: do you have applyppf installed?
[08:37] <luke_> antixpaul,  ya
[08:38] <jeffgr> gkasinath: there are some different modes, try a different one, i can't recall them off the top of my head, i'll look them up in a sec
[08:38] <frederick85> jeffgr: I did and it kept asking me to configure my network card, very rude installer...
[08:39] <jeffgr> frederick85: that is pretty lame, you can't use the regular installer?
[08:39] <slyder> yea i'm pretty sure i do since it gives me this with the copyright info, ApplyPPF v2.0 for Linux/Unix (c) Icarus/Paradox
[08:39] <slyder> File ./RESIDENT_EVIL_EXTINCTION.iso does not exist.
[08:39] <ompaul> frederick85, did you report a bug to launchpad.net?
[08:39] <jeffgr> slyder: just run the command applyppf --help with nothing else
[08:40] <slyder> tried that jeffgr, ApplyPPF v2.0 for Linux/Unix (c) Icarus/Paradox
[08:40] <slyder> File --help does not exist.
[08:41] <slyder> when i open the sourcecode it does tell you what to type in for the command which i did but it still says my iso file doesn't exist even though it's there
[08:41] <antixpaul> luke_: the first option down the bottom in gnome alsa mixer is Headphone Jack Sense?
[08:41] <luke_> antixpaul,  nope..
[08:41] <jeffgr> slyder: you know the file names are case sensitive? can you get it to finish the file for you with tab-completion?
[08:42] <ompaul> slyder, do this: ls -al RE* does it say that there is a RESIDENT_EVIL_EXTINCTION.iso
[08:42] <slyder> yea that's what i've been doing typing in the first 3 letters in caps and hitting tab to complete each time i've tried jeffgr
[08:43] <slyder> indeed it does ompaul, -rwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev<PHONE_NUMBER> 2007-12-26 07:22 RESIDENT_EVIL_EXTINCTION.iso
[08:43] <antixpaul> luke_: are you running 7.10? I have gnome alsa mixer open and the first option is Headphone JackSense ^^
[08:44] <luke_> antixpaul,  yup, gusty
[08:45] <luke_> antixpaul,  MIX, CALLER ID, EXTERNAL AMP, OFFHOOK.  those are the only options
[08:46] <jeffgr> slyder: don't you need the patch.ppf file in the same directory?
[08:46] <slyder> yea it's there too but it's saying the iso file doesn't exist not the patch file
[08:46] <jeffgr> gkasinath: there are different modes, at least in nvidia like twinview and xinerama, i don't know what they are in ATi though :[
[08:47] <slyder> and from the source code it says to use this command, Usage: ApplyPPF <Binfile> <PPF-File>\n"), which i've been using, except i named mine applyppf all in lowercase when compiling
[08:47] <jeffgr> slyder: the permissions look all messed up, also why it is being owned by root:plugdev
[08:48] <slyder> well it's on a ntfs drive and that's how ubuntu set it up i haven't messed with the default actions
[08:48] <jeffgr> slyder: oohhh, try copying it to your home directory and doing it there
[08:49] <slyder> wish i could but i don't have enough hard drive space in my home directory to fit this thing heh
[08:49] <jeffgr> slyder: you need to have write access, get ntfs-3g
[08:50] <slyder> well i've been writing stuff to the ntfs drive for a couple of days now but let me check to make sure i have ntfs-3g installed
[08:50] <gkasinath> jeffgr, hhmm okie... I ll try my best and if I have any success write a story about it on ubuntu forums! :) \
[08:50] <luke_> .........
[08:51] <jeffgr> gkasinath: when you followed the tutorials on the ubuntu formus, did they not work at all?
[08:51] <jeffgr> slyder: the file is being owned by root, try doing sudo chown yourusername:yourusername RESIDENT_EVIL_EXTINCTION.iso
[08:51] <slyder> yea checked the synaptic package manager ntfs-3g is installed
[08:51] <slyder> k i'll give it a go jeffgr
[08:54] <slyder> i ran that and it still appears as plugdev
[08:55] <jeffgr> slyder: try sudo chmod 777 RESIDENT_EVIL_EXTINCTION.iso
[08:56] <jeffgr> slyder: then try the applyppf thing
[08:56] <gkasinath> jeffgr, not really no. I am stuck with the two problems I listed before and the mouse cursor is garbled square block on the secondary monitor, and the 3D fancy stuff doesnt work.
[08:56] <gkasinath> jeffgr, brb have to get the phone.
[08:56] <slyder> when i list i still get this -rwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev<PHONE_NUMBER> 2007-12-26 07:22 RESIDENT_EVIL_EXTINCTION.iso
[08:57] <slyder> and still says it doesn't exist when i run applyppf
[08:57] <jeffgr> slyder: try sudo applyppf etc :D
[08:57] <slyder> i wonder if their is anything else to apply ppf patches i couldn't find anything but this when i was searching
[08:57] <slyder> and not much documentation about it or how to use it
[08:58] <Alchera> lol "applyppf thing" is soooooo DALnet
[08:58] <slyder> heh already gave sudo applyppf a go when i was trying to change the permissions
[08:58] <slyder> anything better for applying them Alchera?
[08:59] <Alchera> it was the end bit .. was amusing .. i use "thingie" myself lol
[09:01] <pradip> fgdfgr
[09:02] <slyder> well i guess their is no real solution to this problem of mine if only i had more space free on my home drive but thanks for all the help jeffgr
[09:02] <qwe> co jest
[09:03] <crazy_bus>  I have a weird problem in kaffeine.  When I´m watching a dvd and alt+tab to another program and come back everything inside the windows starts to shake while playing.  It also continues when I pause.  It sometimes stops after a few seconds and other times doesn't is there any way to fix it?
[09:03] <majikins> hello
[09:04] <majikins> can anyone help on a server config I'm looking to do?
[09:06] <ompaul> majikins, I can't at this stage but the channel might be able to if you expressed the objective fully on one line, the reason I can't is I am rubbish at telepathy ;-)
[09:06] <phrac> haha
[09:07] <uchazco> Hi... will a deb with 2006.2 as its version overwrite 2006.1 (just checking :) )? If so will the old version be removed or will the new one just overwrite it?
[09:07] <ompaul> uchazco,  yes /  removed
[09:07] <majikins> I'm in South africa and looking to buy components here - looking to do a file server for 25 users
[09:07] <ompaul> majikins, how is that one line?
[09:08] <uchazco> Ah good :) I'm making some .debs so just wanted to be certain how they work :)
[09:08] <ompaul> the full problem on one line
[09:08] <syc_> greeting
[09:08] <phrac> greets
[09:08] <syc_> anybody can help me? i have a 'mounting' problem
[09:08] <New> i m free, and anybody?
[09:09] <teKnofreak> syc_, tell your problem than asking..
[09:10] <livingdaylight> how does one kill a process?
[09:10] <mOrO^> I have an mp3 player device that is sometimes recognized by my system, and works great...and sometimes it ISNT recognized. And when it is recognized I have to fiddle with turning it on, off etc.
[09:11] <phrac> get  NEW CABLE?
[09:11] <uchazco> livingdaylight - the eaisiest way is to use the system monitor under System->Admin
[09:11] <phrac> sorry for caps
[09:11] <syc_> how can i mount a partition in read-write mode for user?
[09:11] <sigra> Does anyone know why amarok would be working then stop..its giving me this error evertime i click on a station now No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported.  or no plugin installed
[09:12] <sigra> I googled it but no luck
[09:12] <jussi01> sigra: is it an mms:// adderess?
[09:13] <sigra> juss its http address
[09:13] <jussi01> sigra: hmm, it may mean you need the restricted packages installed...
[09:13] <syc_> i've tried to add 'rw,user' on my /etc/fstab but it didnt work
[09:13] <jussi01> !restricted | sigra
[09:13] <ubotu> sigra: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:14] <jussi01> syc_: have you looked at !fstab pages?
[09:14] <sigra> k thanks..reading now
[09:14] <syc_> jussi01:  i have read it
[09:15] <jussi01> !tab | sigra
[09:15] <ubotu> sigra: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[09:16] <sigra> tab sigra
[09:16] <sigra> tab|sigra
[09:16] <malnilion> The tab button
[09:16] <syc_> /dev/hda3       /media/data2    auto    user,rw 0       0 <== is this correct ?
[09:16] <syc_> that my fstab line
[09:17] <sigra> hmm
[09:17] <sigra> how change my nick
[09:17] <Myrtti> /nick newnick
[09:17] <SigraTyberian> ok
[09:17] <SigraTyberian> thank you
[09:18] <Myrtti> np
[09:18] <ompaul> SIZUKA, got a connection problem?
[09:18] <SigraTyberian> extra codecs are greyed out on my add/remove program..says i need them.
[09:18] <Volvagia356> how do I change the permissions for a disk?
[09:18] <student> gago
[09:21] <troy_s> anyone having ipw2100 issues with a clean install of Gutsy?
[09:21] <Volvagia356> How do I change permissions for a disk?
[09:22] <ompaul> !repeat | Volvagia356
[09:22] <ubotu> Volvagia356: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:22] <ompaul> Volvagia356, what kind of disk
[09:22] <Volvagia356> harddisk
[09:22] <jago> how do i open new tabs in x-chat?
[09:23] <ompaul> Volvagia356, if I asked the same question again, would you like to tell us stuff about formats which partition etc
[09:23] <ompaul> Volvagia356, what kind of disk
[09:23] <Volvagia356> SATA EXT3
[09:23] <Volvagia356> sdb1
[09:24] <xecov> hi someone know italian channel ?
[09:24] <DaApi> Hello. I'm newbie and lost. Please help. cant unrar files whit any program!
[09:24] <malnilion> jago: XChat>New>pick a tab
[09:24] <ompaul> !it | xecov
[09:24] <ubotu> xecov: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:24] <troy_s> dapi:  sudo aptitude install unrar
[09:24] <xecov> grazie
[09:24] <jago> malnilon, mine doesn't have that
[09:25] <malnilion> jago, what xchat are you running?
[09:25] <DaApi> troy_s:  dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:25] <jago> probably the newest one
[09:25] <jago> it looks different than the one I had on FC3
[09:26] <bmbernie> Volvagia356: you cant mount your disk rw ?
[09:26] <ompaul> Volvagia356, so you look at what it is mounted as, for the purposes of this exercise lets call it /mount/mydisk    then we could chown the mydisk     sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /mount/mydisk  ---- warning do not do this on a paritition like / or /usr that would break it in very new and not so interesting ways - you would need a live CD to rescue your data and then a fresh install would be fastest
[09:26] <malnilion> jago, you're probably running xchat-gnome
[09:26] <Silver_Fox> I skrewed up bigtime guys. I really need some help now.  I folowed these derections http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=332472&highlight=snd_hda_intel  second post ) and ended up making it so i dont have ANY sound on my computer now, cant even open up volume control.
[09:26] <troy_s> dapi:  run that then
[09:26] <malnilion> jago, what I'd do is open up Synaptic, enable your universe repository, and install the regular old xchat package rather than xchat-gnome
[09:27] <Volvagia356> I am already on a LiveCD
[09:27] <Silver_Fox> how do i get it back to normal?!
[09:27] <DaApi> =D
[09:27] <Volvagia356> It's my linux partition
[09:27] <jago> will do, thanks man
[09:28] <Silver_Fox> please help mehh!
[09:28] <Tilllinux> hiho. How do I change the names of the actions in the context-/right-click-menu? for examples the names in the "open with..." sub-menu ?
[09:28] <Silver_Fox> I'll die without music :(
[09:28] <malnilion> jago, no problem, took me a few minutes to figure that one out first time I tried Ubuntu :)
[09:28] <jago> oh, haha :)
[09:29] <Silver_Fox> OMG
[09:29] <Silver_Fox> !
[09:30] <ompaul> Volvagia356, what exactly is the problem when you boot the box in an ordinary way, you are making it hard for us to work out what it is you actually want to do, can you give us a few lines on it please
[09:30] <Silver_Fox> someone please help.  Please?
[09:30] <Volvagia356> See here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=637770
[09:30] <xecov> hi
[09:30] <xecov> in italian channel i cant find help
[09:31] <Silver_Fox> hi
[09:31] <xecov> i have some problems with firefox
[09:31] <Silver_Fox> d9ont look here
[09:31] <Silver_Fox> noone is even listening
[09:31] <xecov> i try
[09:31] <Silver_Fox> ok
[09:31] <Silver_Fox> i'll continue trying
[09:31] <Silver_Fox> HELP!
[09:31] <bmbernie> Silver_Fox: please stop
[09:31] <xecov> if i do not start firefox without root perimission
[09:31] <Silver_Fox> ok
[09:31] <Silver_Fox> Just kidding
[09:32] <Silver_Fox> HELP! please
[09:32] <xecov> i cant open page in java
[09:32] <xecov> because java jvm does not start
[09:32] <katyush-free> anybody knows how to install NVU on Gutsy?
[09:32] <thor> katyush-free use kompozer, nvu isn't being supported anymore
[09:32] <bmbernie> what us NVU
[09:33] <Silver_Fox> xecov, what you wana do is go here http://rvb.roosterteeth.com/home.php
[09:33] <Silver_Fox> =-D
[09:33] <Silver_Fox> =/
[09:33] <nickkuiki> my cadr reader doesn't work. it's texas instrument. what shall i do?
[09:33] <Silver_Fox> =(
[09:33] <ompaul> Volvagia356, okay, do this please, sudo fdisk -l     <that is a lower case L and then paste that in paste.ubuntu-nl.org   I will have to go in a couple of mins
[09:34] <bmbernie> katyush-free: sudo apt-get install nvu
[09:34] <mOrO^> Why would my system sometimes recognize my mp3 player, and sometimes not?
[09:34] <ompaul> Volvagia356, for every linux partition you have do this sudo fsck -y /dev/WhatEver    << then try a reboot
[09:34] <katyush-free> bmbernie, doesnt exist
[09:34] <bmbernie> mOrO^: bad cable maybe
[09:35] <malnilion> katyush-free, what is NVU?
[09:35] <mOrO^> bmbernie, my mp3 player says, USB Connected
[09:35] <tim167> is ogg/theora alive or is it dead? and if so, what's a good alternative ?
[09:35] <idkhn> OK, I have a heap of problems with my newly installed copy of Ubuntu... would someone be able to help me solve them?
[09:35] <Tilllinux> alive
[09:35] <katyush-free> malakhi, its like a thin version of dreamweaver...do you know of any linux alternatives?
[09:35] <bmbernie> katyush-free: what repositories do you have enabled
[09:35] <katyush-free> bmbernie, multi and uni...
[09:35] <ompaul> Volvagia356,  whatever you do - don't turn off until you have all this done - if it complains about superblock info you have a suspect hard drive but a bit of googling should help with finding the info you need to get to the point where you can look at other superblocks (there are several)
[09:36] <Tilllinux> KompoZer
[09:36] <katyush-free> bmbernie, can you apt-get NVU?
[09:36] <Volvagia356> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49667/
[09:36] <Silver_Fox> Ok, i'm asking nicly now.  I just need some good old fasion help.  Alright.. Here I go..  I folowed these derections http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=332472&highlight=snd_hda_intel  second post ) and ended up making it so i dont have ANY sound on my computer now, cant even open up volume control.   I really need help geting my sound back online, I would appreciate any help at all. Thanks and god bless you all
[09:37] <idkhn> Firstly, everytime I try to install an application via the Add/Remove Applications program and I keep getting the error message "The list of applications is not available".
[09:37] <tim167> Tilllinux, then why does a friend of mine have all the trouble in the world installing the xiphQT library and is there no easy installer ? and i find a page with a list of unresolved bugs like this: https://trac.xiph.org/query?groupdesc=1&group=status&component=XiphQT+-+QuickTime+Components&order=priority ?
[09:37] <idkhn> I keep on clicking Refresh but it still doesnt let me install anything.
[09:37] <Silver_Fox> =/
[09:37] <ompaul> Volvagia356, so all you have to do it on is: /dev/sdb1
[09:38] <mOrO^> katyush-free, do you do much complicated html? If not, Id download the old Netscape Composer
[09:38] <bmbernie> katyush-free: according to http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-nvu-the-web-authoring-system you just need multiverse and universe
[09:38] <katyush-free> mOrO^, i need something simple and graphic
[09:38] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, I'd help, but I don't really know anything about alsa configuration
[09:39] <mOrO^> katyush-free, actually its called Icecape Composer...it is in the repositories.
[09:39] <katyush-free> bmbernie, i read this article but apt-get says it doesnt exists
[09:39] <mOrO^> katyush-free, Yes, this Icecape Composer is very simple
[09:39] <Volvagia356> it says that it's clean :  /dev/sdb1: clean, 114808/9601024 files, 1061068/19183610 blocks
[09:40] <Tilllinux> tim167: I don't no xiphQT... is that some kind of quicktime replacement?
[09:40] <Silver_Fox> malnilion,  great, thanks a million!  Neather do I.
[09:40] <katyush-free> mOrO^, thanks ,I'm apt-geting Kompozer suggested by Tilllinux, then i"ll try icecape
[09:40] <tim167> Tilllinux, its the component necessary to read ogg/theora on OSX
[09:40] <Silver_Fox> malnilion,   I just need to undo all those steps the guy posted
[09:40] <mOrO^> katyush-free, You will find Icecape Composer much easier than Kompozer
[09:40] <idkhn> never mind everyone, i fixed it
[09:40] <bmbernie> yeah i don't have access to nvu.  maybe it is depreciated.
[09:41] <Tilllinux> yes, it is. kompozer is "a sequel" to nvu ;)
[09:41] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, was your sound working before?
[09:42] <Silver_Fox> malnilion,  yeah, just when i pluged in headphones, the laptop speakers wouldent turn off
[09:43] <tim167> Tilllinux, the reason i'm asking is i wonder if i should continue to encode all my video in ogg/theora, since someone on #mplayer mentioned it is 'broken' and I shouldnt use it...but the thing is i have this handy java plugin to put ogg/theora videos on webpages. so i wonder if ogg/theora is still actively maintained or developed...
[09:43] <fsanlu> do turning on restricted drivers (the firmware) have small possibility on making the wifi unstable?
[09:43] <katyush-free> Tilllinux, so Kompozer is nvu?
[09:43] <ompaul> Volvagia356, is it running okay or not?
[09:43] <Tilllinux> tim167: I've been looking for a java ogg plugin :) what is it called?
[09:43] <Volvagia356> I hadn't rebooted yet, should I do so now?
[09:44] <Tilllinux> katyush-free: it's using nvu's code, I think
[09:44] <tim167> Tilllinux, cortado i beleive
[09:44] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, well, something I'm noticing about this guide is that if I recall correctly, it's telling you to install drivers that are older than what should have come with Gutsy
[09:44] <katyush-free> Tilllinux, did you try it? did you try ice-cape?
[09:45] <tim167> Tilllinux,  http://www.flumotion.net/cortado/
[09:45] <ompaul> Volvagia356, no do that with the live CD the fsck thing
[09:45] <Tilllinux> no, katyush-free :)
[09:45] <Silver_Fox> malnilion,  really
[09:45] <sharyari> hello
[09:45] <katyush-free> ok - thank you all....
[09:45] <ompaul> Volvagia356, sudo fsck -y /dev/sdb1
[09:45] <Volvagia356> I've done fsck, it says it's clean
[09:45] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, 1.0.14 final was released a while back and I'm pretty sure was in Gutsy
[09:46] <ompaul> Volvagia356, so then lets try a reboot
[09:46] <Volvagia356> ok
[09:46] <sharyari> I just installed the linux32 package, and after reboot, I don't have any tty-consoles and some system utilities seem to be gone (the program more for example). how do I solve that? :P
[09:46] <ompaul> Volvagia356, I now have to run will be back in 2 to 3 hours
[09:46] <ompaul> Volvagia356, if you get badly stuck ping me when you see me
[09:46] <Volvagia356> ok
[09:47] <Volvagia356> I'm gonna save this couversation to refer to it later
[09:47] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, have you tried rebooting perchance?
[09:47] <Tilllinux> thanks tim167
[09:47] <Silver_Fox> malnilion,  brb, i'll do that
[09:48] <tim167> Tilllinux y/w
[09:49] <osfameron> My synaptic touchpad is spuriously creating middle click events (e.g. without pressing L+R buttons)
[09:49] <osfameron> anyone have any suggestions for identifying/resolving the problem?
[09:50] <Silver_Fox> nothing different...
[09:51] <bmbernie> Silver_Fox: what did you change ?
[09:51] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, shoot.  You had the same laptop as this fellow?
[09:51] <Silver_Fox> ya
[09:51] <slyder> if you have wine installed and you double click a .exe file that doesn't need to be installed and just runs from a folder does it just automatically run with no problems and work?
[09:51] <Silver_Fox> how do i  Enable Internal Modem from within the BIOS
[09:51] <osfameron> ah! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=470274
[09:51] <plee> osfameron, change the taptime
[09:51] <osfameron> it's registering 2 fingers as a middle click
[09:52] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, I can't really help you there, different BIOS behave differently
[09:52] <Silver_Fox> o
[09:52]  * osfameron checks out synaptic to see if he can disable it
[09:53] <Kuroachia> I'm having trouble with my N-draft Linksys card. I'm dual booting XP and Ubuntu. In XP I installed the device drivers/software that came with it and it apparently sees my router (and apparently connects) but doesn't connect to the interwebs like it claims (connection strength 90%); in ubuntu the card doesn't even register as a device. I have a WMP300N if that helps at all.
[09:53] <Onyx> slyder: in theory, yes.
[09:54] <Silver_Fox> I think i no where i messed things up.  When i did step Step 3)
[09:54] <Silver_Fox> vi /etc/modprobe.d/options
[09:54] <Silver_Fox> Here I wrote:
[09:54] <Silver_Fox> options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd
[09:54] <Silver_Fox> save and quit.  I ran vi /etc/modprobe.d/options in the terminal and imediatly paisted and entered options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd.  I think that skrewed it all up.
[09:54] <sherry_zhang> are there any lightweighted encoding conversion library available? lighter than libiconv with non GPL licence?
[09:55] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, that's possible
[09:55] <katyush-free> do we have mozilla-suite in our repos ,if so what's it called?
[09:55] <Silver_Fox> so how do i fix it? necause i know thats what i did
[09:55] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, you might try model=default or model=laptop
[09:55] <bmbernie> sherry_zhang: what is wrong with gpl ?
[09:55] <Volvagia356> ompual: It you're still there, it didn't work
[09:56] <Silver_Fox> just in the terminal?
[09:56] <sherry_zhang> bmbernie, oh, we just want code in the public domain.
[09:56] <sherry_zhang> bmbernie, nothing wrong:)
[09:56] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, Well, no edit that file it told you to edit and change that option
[09:57] <Silver_Fox> malnilion,  what file did u tell me to edit? i forgot, sorry... =/
[09:57] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, /etc/modeprobe.d/options
[09:57] <antixpaul> katyush-free: there's iceape
[09:58] <Silver_Fox> theres nothing there
[09:58] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, that's odd
[09:58] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, oh I typed the file wrong
[09:58] <katyush-free> antixpaul, is that similar? same?
[09:58] <jack-desktop> i can't right click on my desktop or open my home folder =/
[09:59] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, /etc/modprobe.d/options
[09:59] <Silver_Fox> oh ok
[09:59] <Silver_Fox> so just add what u told me to the bottum?
[09:59] <abhi> i have a doubt. i am running a crontab which takes about 10 minutes to execute but it can take longer than that. but i set this crontab to work every 10 minutes. will cron fork two processes incase the previous one hasn't completed?
[10:00] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, The guide told you to add "options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd"
[10:00] <Silver_Fox> ya i see it there
[10:00] <jack-desktop> why can't i open any folders /cry
[10:00] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, then try changing it to model=default or model=laptop
[10:01] <Silver_Fox> so that options snd-hda-intel model=default-eapd instead of options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd?
[10:01] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, no just "model=default"
[10:02] <Silver_Fox> ok
[10:02] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, no trailing -eapd :P
[10:02] <Silver_Fox> reboot?
[10:02] <malnilion> Yeah
[10:02] <malnilion> Hopefully that'll do it
[10:02] <Silver_Fox> what?
[10:02] <malnilion> Fix it at least back to where it was before
[10:03] <jack-desktop> Does anyone know why I can't right click on desktop OR open any folders (the window doesn't even pop up)
[10:03]  * malnilion would guess nautilus isn't running, jack-desktop
[10:03] <Silver_Fox> whats that?
[10:03] <jack-desktop> I don't think I have it installed..
[10:04] <malnilion> jack-desktop, it should be there by default on the default Ubuntu install
[10:04] <tempnic> Welcome to "ubuntu.unix-center.net" test server.Use SSH Login!
[10:04] <jack-desktop> malnilion, how do I get it running again?
[10:04] <Silver_Fox> never mind, im rebooting
[10:04] <malnilion> jack-desktop, does everything else appear normal in gnome?
[10:05] <jack-desktop> yes except i cant right click on desktop
[10:06] <malnilion> jack-desktop, I think opening any of the locations in "Places" ought to do it, but I'm not certain
[10:06] <KaZeR> what is the ubuntu-minimal package for? (i need to purge wpa-supplicant)
[10:06] <tempnic> "ubuntu.unix-center.net"is a  test server.Use SSH Login!welcome to try
[10:06] <jack-desktop> malnilion, that's what i've been trying for about 5 minutes
[10:07] <Silver_Fox> i rebooted and nothings different...
[10:07] <malnilion> jack-desktop, I assume you've tried logging out and back in?
[10:07] <jack-desktop> meh i dont want to disrupt the internet connection
[10:07] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, damn, I really don't know what else to do
[10:07] <tempnic> "ubuntu.unix-center.net"is a  test server.Use SSH Login!welcome to try
[10:07] <Silver_Fox> Darn
[10:07] <Silver_Fox> Damn
[10:08] <Silver_Fox> Shit
[10:08] <Silver_Fox> Fuck
[10:08] <Silver_Fox> poop
[10:08] <Silver_Fox> oh well
[10:08] <Silver_Fox> no sound for me =0
[10:09] <Silver_Fox> I shall find a cave up in the mountans and live there without my music.
[10:09] <malnilion> jack-desktop, so you can open up your file manager but your desktop still isn't behaving normally?
[10:09] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, or worse comes to worse, you can reinstall, lol
[10:09] <jack-desktop> i can open the "Places menu" but i cant open any folder window
[10:10] <jack-desktop> i guess that's a "file manager"
[10:10] <malnilion> Right
[10:10] <jack-desktop> i cant open it
[10:10] <tempnic> Silver_Fox:bad-mannered!
[10:10] <Silver_Fox> malnilion, i've done that sooo many times with ubuntu.  About 6
[10:10] <malnilion> I know the feeling :P
[10:10] <Silver_Fox> tempnic,    Up yours fuckwad
[10:10] <Silver_Fox> =0
[10:12] <ivze> Good <your time>, everybody! I have a trouble, and i would be glad, if somebody helped me with it. After adding additional memory to my system(512 -> 1024+512) the kernel started to freeze (completely dead, no reaction to NumLock). This happens with an average time of about a hour. Following the advise of a man from #ubuntu, i have performed a memory test: 12 hours of test, no faults. That's the situation! Thanks for reading :)
[10:13] <rukus> gawd, 1k nicks.
[10:14] <demonskier> how do I sign in as root
[10:14] <rukus> demonskier: in ibuntu you have to sudo su
[10:14] <demonskier> in terminal?
[10:15] <Silver_Fox> malnilion,   Maybe u misunderstood me on something..  I did step 3 like this.  vi /etc/modprobe.d/options in the terminal> paisted this derectly into whatever came up in the terminal options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd>it said Warning or somthing about me changing something important.. Thne boom, i restart, no sound...
[10:15] <lesshaste_> is the netgear wg111 usb wireless adaptor supported in ubuntu?
[10:15] <B-rabbit> hi all :)
[10:15] <demonskier> most wireless arent but u can use the diswrapper to use a windows driver
[10:16] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, I think I understood.  The thing is I now don't think what you did by editing that file was the source of your problems.  I think installing the drivers might have been.
[10:16] <Tilllinux> demonskier: that means, my brother is lucky, 'cause his wlan worked outofthebox
[10:16] <Tilllinux> with wpa2
[10:16] <lesshaste_> demonskier, ah..that's worrying... I haven't bought it yet.. how can I find a list of supported wireless adaptors?
[10:16] <demonskier> i gess he is
[10:16] <malnilion> Silver_Fox, I don't really know how to undo what you did though :/
[10:17] <demonskier> im a noob to linux and it took me 2 days to set up my wireless
[10:17] <scguy318> lesshaste_: with ndiswrapper sure
[10:17] <scguy318> !wireless | lesshaste_
[10:17] <ubotu> lesshaste_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:18] <demonskier> um i have no idea where to find a list of supported but if u read the forum ndiswrapper works really welll
[10:18] <Silver_Fox> malnilion,  well how did that deleat all my sound or wtever.  I click on volume control now and it says no volume control GStreamer plugins/or devices found
[10:18] <lesshaste_> scguy318, thanks.. I haven't bought it yet... is it risky to rely on ndiswrapper?
[10:19] <demonskier> anyone no how i can put folders and files directly into the file system because it isn't letting me
[10:19] <livingdaylight> thx for the tip on how to kill processes via System Monitor. Nice gui... but does someone here know the command line for killing process?
[10:19] <demonskier> ummmm leshaste i dono if its risky but from the reports i have read it works quite cconsistently
[10:19] <Tilllinux> try... kill ;D
[10:20] <livingdaylight> Tilllinux, you talking to me?
[10:20] <Volvagia356> !patience
[10:20] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:21] <Tilllinux> try either: pkill firefox or killall -v firefox
[10:21] <rukus> does ubuntu have tree on the default install ? Just find the root process of firefox and kill that.
[10:21] <rukus> or try killall firefox_bin :)
[10:21] <livingdaylight> Tilllinux, -v or -9 ?
[10:22] <Tilllinux> ah yes, firefox_bin... you'll have to know the name of the process
[10:22] <Tilllinux> just leave out the -v
[10:22] <livingdaylight> Gracias Ubunteros!
[10:22] <Tilllinux> it's firefox-bin btw
[10:22] <Jamesinator> When I remove a print job from the graphical printing manager in GNOME, the job persists even after restarting Ubuntu. Clearing /var/cache/cups/jobs.cache fixed the problem, but how can I make the GUI print manager work as expected?
[10:22] <livingdaylight> viva la revolucion!
[10:22] <rukus> Tilllinux: yea, FreeBSD has it as firefox-bin
[10:23] <rukus> sorry, firefox_bin
[10:23] <rukus> or teh manual build and install.
[10:24] <livingdaylight> rukus, if i had asked this question at freebsd i would have been told to go rtfm... they're a hostile bunch on the whole... not like here
[10:24] <katyush-free> i want to put tabs inside a html documents. what programme will do that for me?
[10:25] <lesshaste_> there used to be such things as "hardware compatibility lists"
[10:25] <rukus> livingdaylight: I'm on holiday :)
[10:25] <lesshaste_> scguy318, the page you sent me looks rather out of date
[10:25] <Tilllinux> ubuntustudio is very unfriendly... I think I'm going to switch to JackLab, as a friend told me, they'd have a "better" community and it concentrates more on the sound editing / music composition
[10:25] <eltew> Someone try and help me.  When I switch from the GUI (F7) to any of the CLIs, all I get is a blinking cursor.
[10:26] <lesshaste_> scguy318, "This page describes the setup procedure for the Netgear WG111 (version 1) -- a USB-based wireless dongle -- in Ubuntu 5.04. Though the author tested with the version 1 dongle it was reported that the version 2 dongle also works."
[10:26] <lesshaste_> for example
[10:26] <livingdaylight> rukus, welcome to la isla bonita :D
[10:26] <rukus> if you having hassles with drivers, download and boot a knoppix Cd, write down all the drivers, and then port that to your ubuntu install.
[10:26] <Jamesinator> When I remove a print job from the graphical printing manager in GNOME, the job persists even after restarting Ubuntu.  Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[10:29] <rukus> somebody did'nt get a present.
[10:29] <eltew> To anyone who can assist:  Whenever I switch from my GUI (F7) to any of the CLIs (F2-F6), I only get a blinking cursor.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[10:29] <Myrtti> Jamesinator: a wee bit late
[10:29] <Jamesinator> I'm using IRSSI, no name-autocomplete. :P
[10:29] <livingdaylight> rukus, i think it was just a typo... ^^
[10:29] <Myrtti> Jamesinator: sure you've got autocomplete
[10:29] <IndyGunFreak> Jamesinator: i'm prett sure irssi has auto-complete
[10:30] <rukus> does ubuntu's gui run on tty 7 ?
[10:30] <redarrow> Jamesinator: Irssi can have ^^
[10:30] <Jamesinator> Ah well, then I just suck. Everyone happy?
[10:30] <eltew> rukus: yes
[10:30] <Myrtti> Jamesinator: no :-C
[10:30]  * Jamesinator gives Myrtti a hug.
[10:30] <Myrtti> /me hugs Jamesinator back
[10:30] <rukus> I must try this wonderfull thing called ubuntu one day.
[10:31] <Myrtti> see, wonderful autocomplete
[10:31] <Jamesinator> Myrtti: So I've been told.
[10:31] <livingdaylight> Jamesinator, did you hit the emergency button? LOL
[10:31] <IndyGunFreak> rukus: you've never tried it?
[10:31] <rukus> IndyGunFreak: I'm a *bsd man.
[10:31] <IndyGunFreak> rukus: oh ok.
[10:31]  * Jamesinator sandpapers his fingerprints off, therefore removing any traces of evidence on the "Big Red Op Button"
[10:31] <rukus> and run suse non gui webservers at office.
[10:31] <livingdaylight> rukus, Ubuntu is more than an os... Its a way of life
[10:32] <rukus> and support ubuntu boxes, but after I send them a ssh cert, and I ssh in.
[10:33] <livingdaylight> rukus, i'd use bsd (want to even) if it had something like the ubuntu community around it
[10:33] <frederick85> when the system begins to boot I get a message saying cannot allocate region 4 of pci device or something like that?
[10:33] <frederick85> Whats the story with these new linux kernels
[10:33] <rukus> livingdaylight: yess, I can imagine that, been doing this for a whil enow.
[10:33] <frederick85> the old ones never gave me that
[10:33] <rukus> ubuntu is for desktop clients.
[10:33] <rukus> nice thing is it's easy to support remote.
[10:33] <frederick85> rukus: you can install ubuntu without a desktop
[10:34] <abhi> frederick85: get the alternate installer or the server version
[10:34] <IndyGunFreak> New kernels?
[10:34] <frederick85> abhi: i wasn't asking a question
[10:34] <abhi> frederick85: sorr
[10:34] <frederick85> abhi: my initial question is unrelated to versions
[10:35] <frederick85> happens on all versions and gentoo aswell
[10:35] <livingdaylight> rukus, i suppose pc-bsd wants some of the Desktop cake too seeing the success and rise of GNU/Linux on the Desktop in recent years. But they're a long ways away still imo
[10:35] <iZoom> I have just installed Ubuntu, I have no internet connection on that box, is it possible to somehow get the mp3 codec to play .mp3 files onto a usb, and install from there?
[10:36] <rukus> iZoom: you mean form a Pc that does have internet ?
[10:36] <rukus> build a package once all the codecs are in ?
[10:36] <frederick85> livingdaylight: pc-BSD is pretty dodgy at the moment though. But it's good in some ways
[10:36] <drgeb> how do you remove a gnome panel ? I tried right clicking on the panel but only available menu items are "Help and "About Panels"
[10:36] <rukus> to hot, pool time.
[10:37] <frederick85> pc-bsd mimicks windows too much
[10:37] <iZoom> Well, I am on windows now, I wondered if I could put the files needed for the mp3 codec on a usb and go to the other box and install it form there?
[10:37] <rukus> drgeb: xkill :)
[10:37] <mavi-> iZoom: sure can do
[10:37] <mavi-> iZoom: its in some gstreamer package
[10:37] <iZoom> I'm new to Ubuntu aswell.
[10:37] <iZoom> Is there a link to download it?
[10:37] <rukus> problem with xkill is that you have to click somewhere with it to get rid of it.
[10:37] <IndyGunFreak> drgeb: there should be a "delete this panel' option
[10:38] <livingdaylight> frederick85, i agree... i appreciate their intention in bringing bsd to the masses. But they still seem to have the bsd culture in 'em...
[10:38] <drgeb> IndyGunFreak its not there somehow?? I was expecting this too
[10:38] <IndyGunFreak> weird
[10:38] <iZoom> mavi-: where can I download the file needed for mp3 codec  on windows?
[10:38] <drgeb> rukus xkill just kills it and it automatically comes back
[10:39] <gobbles414> Hi all: I've got kind of a strange sound problem. Is anyone willing to try and help me?
[10:39] <frederick85> livingdaylight: FreeBSD is a masterpiece and should be respected, They are a little arrogant however towards linux users.
[10:39] <drgeb> IndyGunFreak any idea which configuration file handles this ?
[10:39] <IndyGunFreak> drgeb: not a clue, never had that prob
[10:39] <frederick85> livingdaylight: I don't know what you meant by culture though
[10:39] <rukus> gees, how much stuff is in ubuntu's inittab ?
[10:40] <sat70> bonjours a vous tous
[10:40] <mavi-> iZoom: let me see what its named
[10:40] <JacobSingh> Hi, I'm using 10.2 and I followed the how-tos about the pdf printer (cups-pdf).  It's all setup it seems, and throws no errors, plus cups says the jobs are finished, but I never get a dialog to select where to save my pdf
[10:40] <JacobSingh> and I can't find it anywhere either
[10:40] <livingdaylight> frederick85, i respect FreeBSD but to say they are a little arrogant is an understatement. I came to it with no preconceptions and was made to feel most unwelcome
[10:40] <sat70> jai un petit probleme avec quake3 je nai pas de son snif, jai donné les droit a quake pour qu'il puisse modifier /dev/dsp
[10:40] <IndyGunFreak> iZoom: did you get your answer?
[10:40] <gobbles414> JacobSingh... There should be a folder called PDF in you home folder
[10:40] <iZoom> No?
[10:40] <rukus> livingdaylight: bsd tends towards minimalist, build what you need, linux tends to bundy everything or as much as possible, just appeals towards different poeple and eviroments.
[10:41] <mavi-> iZoom: gstreamer-plugins-ugly
[10:41] <sat70> je suis sous un dell inspiron 6400 et je nai toujours pas de son
[10:41] <IndyGunFreak> iZoom: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/allpackages
[10:41] <mavi-> iZoom: .deb
[10:41] <mavi-> iZoom: just google that and download
[10:41] <IndyGunFreak> iZoom: then download gstreamer-plugins-ugly
[10:41] <livingdaylight> frederick85, by culture i mean what you already touched upon when you said arrogant. I mean an attitude of elitism, hostility, and belligerence
[10:41] <iZoom> and just run it once im on ubuntu>?
[10:41] <mavi-> yeah
[10:41] <IndyGunFreak> yes
[10:41] <sat70> quake me dis could not mmap dma buffer
[10:41] <JacobSingh> gobbles414: thanks!  Is there anyway to have it ask me where I want to save it?
[10:41] <iZoom> ok thanks ill see if i have any problem
[10:41] <rukus> livingdaylight: you think thats bad, try #sco :)
[10:41] <IndyGunFreak> iZoom: that link i posted, should have the deb file you're looking for.
[10:41] <eltew> To anyone who can assist:  Whenever I switch from my GUI (F7) to any of the CLIs (F2-F6), I only get a blinking cursor.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[10:41] <sat70> /dev/dsp: input/output error
[10:42] <frederick85> livingdaylight: livingdaylight: i know very well what you mean. That is just on #freebsd if i'm right though
[10:42] <livingdaylight> rukus, well, pc-bsd is aiming towards Desktop not minimalist.. but i'm talking about the environment in the community - insular, and snobbish... opposed to welcoming, friendly and helpful
[10:42] <frederick85> livingdaylight: FreeBSD is good to learn you just need to ignore the people who are that way
[10:42] <frederick85> livingdaylight: the Handbook is exceptional
[10:43] <IndyGunFreak> gobbles414: whats your sound problem?
[10:43] <rukus> livingdaylight: I suppose, but linux ppl generate for to many queries to deal with when things are busy and you have a lot on your plate.
[10:43] <gobbles414> JacobSingh: You're welcome. I do not know of any way to "print" to a different location. But you can always create a shortcut of the PDF folder in another location for quicker access
[10:43] <frederick85> livingdaylight: /j #ubuntu-au
[10:44] <frederick85> actually ignore that typo
[10:44] <livingdaylight> frederick85, the Handbook, yes, they kept pointing to that as if it were the bible or the koran... but i found lots of links in there which were outdated, referring to windows 95 ... so i think it could do with refreshing and updating
[10:44] <rukus> when things like setting up apache 5 with ssl in the gui yast in suse taking a week, and then having to reverese the weeks fiddling and then set up properly.
[10:45] <nalpha> guys... i INstalled UBuntu 7.10 on my PC, but the system can't shutdown from "front panel" like Ubuntu 5.04 system, it can be shutdown from front panel, just with one click, anyone knows the problem and can help me solve the problem?
[10:45] <frederick85> livingdaylight: how far did you get with it
[10:45] <gobbles414> Hi IGF: I was trying to enable SPDIF output on my Asus G1 laptop, and now all of my sound is gone. I used "Method B" at the following URL <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller>. I tried rc1, rc3, and the final release
[10:45] <IndyGunFreak> gobbles414: whats your sound problem?
[10:46] <livingdaylight> rukus, i appreciate the objection that it is tiresome to constantly answer a question that is #3 on FAQ... but it is no reason or justificaiton imo for the attitude imo... that's just a racket then... a justified reason for venting at someone
[10:46] <gobbles414> ...Would have tried "Method H", but it looked too frightening.
[10:46] <livingdaylight> frederick85, actually, i installed pc-bsd
[10:47] <livingdaylight> frederick85, it was fine but i didn't quite get to grips with installing from ports
[10:47] <eltew> does ubuntu have the following file: etc/inittab
[10:47] <eltew> ?
[10:47] <livingdaylight> alot of packages were quite old
[10:47] <frederick85> livingdaylight: you just use a program called make
[10:47] <IndyGunFreak> gobbles414: weird, i've always got mine fixed by recompiling alsa.
[10:48] <frederick85> livingdaylight: gentoo has portage which is similar but more easy
[10:48] <livingdaylight> frederick85, well, you're really friendly and helpful as is rukus i just wish i had bumped into you then...
[10:48] <frederick85> livingdaylight: theres a gentoo port of freebsd aswell
[10:48] <eltew> someone with ubuntu please go into terminal and type: locate inittab
[10:48] <eltew> and please give me ur output
[10:48] <rukus> eltew: it's in /etc/
[10:48] <rukus> eltew: and make a backup before you change anything.
[10:48] <MrSunshine> humm how do i do a system upgrade in ubuntu? :/
[10:49] <frederick85> livingdaylight: I just learnt it all in the last 3 months myself
[10:49] <eltew> rukus: i cannot find my file, according to my system it doesn't exist and i'm thinking thats why i can't access the terminals
[10:49] <rukus> MrSunshine: maybe first get all the rpm's, then do the installation. Most mirrors miss one or two rpms.
[10:49] <livingdaylight> frederick85, it was just a matter of reorientation. I wasn't used to kde and the whole bsd way of doing things and needed a reorientation course
[10:49] <eltew> rukus: could you paste yours for me?
[10:49] <frederick85> livingdaylight: what are you using now
[10:49] <MrSunshine> well how do i actualy do an upgrade ? ... i wont sit here and manualy download every package
[10:49] <livingdaylight> frederick85, ubuntu :)
[10:50] <rukus> eltew: hectic, I don't know ubuntu's internals that well, but you need innittabe to boot to a certain level, or is init 6 the default ?
[10:50] <gobbles414> Hi all: I see that IGF just left the room. He was helping me with a sound problem. Anybody else willing to help?
[10:50] <livingdaylight> frederick85, i gave up on it... couldn't be assed to put up with the lack of support on the one hand and abuse on the other...
[10:50] <rsk> MrSunshine: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:50] <rukus> eltew: I can look for one quick, but can only get into suse boxes right now, or they the only ones that are up.
[10:51] <livingdaylight> frederick85, in pc-bsd they have their own binaries but still too few of them... i will revisit in time though...
[10:51] <eltew> rukus: I wouldn't know since I haven't figured out all the basics of linux yet..  I get only a blinking cursor when I try to access any terminal via F keys
[10:51] <rukus> MrSunshine: maybe boot a copy of your system in vmware an dupgrade that, I can't handle upgrades that go south.
[10:51] <frederick85> livingdaylight: I'll give you some tips where to go if u like
[10:51] <livingdaylight> frederick85, sure...
[10:51] <eltew> rukus: I thank you but I don't think a SuSe file do the trick.
[10:51] <frederick85> livingdaylight: theres linux distros that will teach you how to be more of an elitist
[10:51] <frederick85> livingdaylight: just by installing them
[10:51] <rukus> eltew: well, inittab would bring up the terminals, so unless someone knows more than I do, inittab does seem suspect.
[10:52] <J_Laptop> frederick85 - Gentoo and LFS :)
[10:52] <gobbles414> Hi once more IGM: Any ideas on how I might get my sound back? I could care less about SPDIF at this point!
[10:52] <frederick85> J_Laptop: exactly
[10:52] <J_Laptop> I've done both
[10:52] <frederick85> i havn't done linux from scratch myself
[10:52] <rukus> gobbles414: do  kldstat, and unload anything that looks like snd_hda
[10:52] <J_Laptop> even was one of the lead dev's on LFS for a long time
[10:52] <rukus> should workj out of the box.
[10:52] <frederick85> I'v done gentoo - FreeBSD that has the least support i'v ever seen
[10:52] <frederick85> but such fun ;)
[10:52] <frederick85> FreeBSD kernel with gentoo
[10:53] <J_Laptop> nahh, Darwin/Gentoo
[10:53] <livingdaylight> frederick85, the irony is that the attitudes i encountered were the same resentment some linux users felt towards us plebs who should just stick to windows if we can't figure out how to use command line... that kind of prejudism is less and less visible.. I think there is room for everyone.. people who wanna do everything from command line and users that just want to point and click...
[10:53] <MrSunshine> rukus: wtf is wrong with you ?
[10:53] <IndyGunFreak> rukus: the intelhda's are a pain...
[10:53] <MrSunshine> do you even know jack shit about what you are talking about?
[10:53] <rukus> rukus: wtf is wrong with you ?
[10:53] <rukus> 12:53 -!- rickympl<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[10:53] <rukus> 12:53 < IndyGunFreak> rukus: the intelhda's are a pain...
[10:53] <rukus> whops
[10:53] <abdulla> guys what is better thunderbird or evoloution?
[10:53] <frederick85> livingdaylight: the commandlines super fast
[10:53] <J_Laptop> abdulla - that's like asking what's a better editor - vi or emacs
[10:53] <rukus> MrSunshine: I don't use ubuntu much, but the intel sound drivers work well with defaults ?
[10:53] <rickympl> rukus:> ?
[10:53] <abdulla> for emails
[10:54] <frederick85> livingdaylight: you usually have alot more options with it too.
[10:54] <MrSunshine> rukus: blow me
[10:54] <J_Laptop> it's what is better for YOU
[10:54] <IndyGunFreak> rukus: i'm sure ou know suse quite well, but that doesn't really qualify you for ubuntu support, don[t hand out info unles you knwo what you're talking about.
[10:54] <rukus> this is why I don't like linux dudes  :/
[10:54] <frederick85> abdulla: salam
[10:54] <frederick85> ?
[10:54] <livingdaylight> frederick85, sure, i'm just saying that its not for everyone
[10:54] <abdulla> wallekom
[10:54] <frederick85> rukus: what are you using?
[10:54] <rukus> IndyGunFreak: it's linux, since when did ubuntu become the standard ?
[10:54] <J_Laptop> there is no standard
[10:54] <J_Laptop> but ubuntu does a lot of things differently than other distros
[10:55] <IndyGunFreak> rukus: that has nothing to do with it, your handing out bad info.
[10:55] <gobbles414> IGF: and rukus: kldstat results in "command not found"
[10:55] <rukus> frederick85: FreeBSD for firewalls, suse for novell and web services, ubuntu for labs.
[10:55] <IndyGunFreak> gobbles414: unless you're using suse, don't listen to rukus
[10:55] <J_Laptop> so what you know from SuSE, or RH, or anything else, *MAY* not translate to ubuntu very well
[10:55] <rickympl> i'm trying to compile dazuko, and i keep getting the following error: .: 1565: linux.config: not found, help please, thanks
[10:55] <rukus> hmm, how does ubuntu list kernel drives ?
[10:55] <abdulla> can gmail integrate with evoloution mail or thunderbird?
[10:55] <J_Laptop> abdulla - either - gmail has an imap interface
[10:55] <IndyGunFreak> abdulla: yes
[10:55] <J_Laptop> but i've heard it's pretty slow
[10:55] <antixpaul> ubuntu for desktops :D
[10:56] <abdulla> so i must use imap J_Laptop ?
[10:56] <frederick85> rukus: CS labs?
[10:56] <J_Laptop> if you want a mail client to interface with gmail, yes
[10:56] <IndyGunFreak> abdulla: no, Gmail is pop3
[10:56] <frederick85> rukus: are you a teacher
[10:56] <rukus> frederick85: yea.
[10:56] <stephenhall> adbulla: I use IMAP with Thunderbird and gmail
[10:56] <IndyGunFreak> J_Laptop: what are you talking about?... gmail is pop3
[10:56] <rukus> frederick85: no, sysadmin for a universaty.
[10:56] <J_Laptop> nope, they have imap now
[10:56] <J_Laptop> but it's somewhat slow from what I heard
[10:56] <IndyGunFreak> J_Laptop: that must have been a very recent change
[10:56] <stephenhall> All settings are there in gmail help
[10:56] <J_Laptop> few weeks
[10:56] <frederick85> rukus: in my university they use fedora :P i hope they change it
[10:56] <stephenhall> make sure you get the ports right
[10:56] <gobbles414> abdulla... Ditto to what IGF says. I used Gmail with Thunderbird for awhile. Now I am using Gmail with Evolution.
[10:56] <J_Laptop> fedora is nice :)
[10:57] <J_Laptop> I like it as a desktop
[10:57] <abdulla> theyr is no pop3 but theyr is pop IndyGunFreak
[10:57] <IndyGunFreak> abdulla: like i said, that must be fairly recent
[10:57] <iZoom> When I ran ./configure it said C Complier cannot create executables
[10:57] <rukus> MrSunshine: I find ubuntu quiet simple once you get to a root terminal, myba emy approach is just different, the end result is the same, even if I have to build it from scratch on ubuntu.
[10:57] <abdulla> gobbles414, so you recommend the best and simple satisfying relaxing way for email checkups and cruising is evoloution mail?
[10:58] <frederick85> J_Laptop: for some reason these things don't work so great for me. Ubuntu and Fedora are bad on my laptop desktop
[10:58] <IndyGunFreak> abdulla: if you don't mind the gmail interface(which i personally like it), just sudo apt-get install mail-notification  set it up w/ your gmail account, and it will alert you in the taskbar when you get email
[10:58] <frederick85> crashing, unexplained slowness
[10:58] <IndyGunFreak> i don't have any email programs.
[10:58] <J_Laptop> laptop's can sometimes be weird
[10:58] <J_Laptop> I've used both on my own laptop with good success
[10:58] <frederick85> I find when I configure myself I get better results
[10:58] <frederick85> Such as with gentoo/debian/freebsd
[10:58] <frederick85> they work fine for me
[10:59] <rukus> frederick85: took me a day to build kde on my laptop, was worth it. nice and snappy.
[10:59] <J_Laptop> my only problem is the b43 driver's flakiness
[10:59] <frederick85> rukus: i'm running xubuntu now I installed it from a gnome alternative cd
[10:59] <frederick85> just installed command line only
[10:59] <G[iA]mMy> salve
[10:59] <iZoom> IndyGunFreak: I get his error when running ./configure C compiler cannot create executables
[10:59] <frederick85> then found the packages I needed
[11:00] <rukus> anyway, got a pool and bbq to get to :)
[11:00] <J_Laptop> izoom - apt-get install build-essential
[11:00] <IndyGunFreak> iZoom: why are you running ./confiugre?  download the deb files
[11:00] <IndyGunFreak> you'll go nuts compiling them from source but do as you please
[11:00] <gobbles414> abdulla: I would rate evolution as a good program, with a couple of quirks. The main issue is that the address book refuses to sort by last name when you are composing a new message. When in the adress book itself, the names will sort by last name very easily. I switched to Evolution so that I could use an antivirus scanner (for my poor Windows friends of course). Gmail offers pop and imap both. I have always found imap to be a pain, so I h
[11:00] <iZoom> I couldn't find the Indy.
[11:00] <iZoom> them*
[11:00] <IndyGunFreak> iZoom: then you didn't look very well.
[11:01] <iZoom> Did you find it?
[11:01] <iZoom> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/allpackages
[11:01] <J_Laptop> I prefer thunderbird to evo myself
[11:01] <iZoom> I couldnt see it
[11:02] <gobbles414> IGF: any additional ideas on my sound problem. I've tried using the reinstall option for all ALSA and OSS entries that showed as installed on my system in Synaptic.
[11:02] <iZoom> IndyGun what one?
[11:02] <iZoom> libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 (0.10.14-1ubuntu3)
[11:02] <iZoom>     GStreamer libraries from the "base" set
[11:02] <iZoom> libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev (0.10.14-1ubuntu3)
[11:02] <iZoom>     GStreamer development files for libraries from the "base" set
[11:03] <frederick85> is Ubuntu GNU/linux
[11:03] <sapumal> yes it is GNU/Linux distro
[11:04] <IndyGunFreak> iZoom: download the .deb file for either xmms or audacious, i think they have mp3 codec support built in
[11:04] <frederick85> sapumal: some distros don't call themselves gnu/linux even though they use GNU software
[11:04] <IndyGunFreak> iZoom: the biggest problem, is you're gonna run into a bunch of dependency errors
[11:04] <J_Laptop> debian is about the only one that uses the GNU/Linux terminology
[11:04] <gobbles414> IGF: I get "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." when I attempt to open the "Open Volume Control"
[11:04] <frederick85> Glinux
[11:04] <IndyGunFreak> gobbles414: do you have intelhda?
[11:04] <sapumal> frederick85, but if you use the kernel and use GNU software why we can't call it GNU/Linux
[11:04] <frederick85> they should use that instead
[11:05] <frederick85> sapumal: u might anger someone
[11:05] <Silver_Fox> It would be awesome if someone would help me with my sound, its not working... Heres the full problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=651091
[11:05] <IndyGunFreak> Silver_Fox: well, 1st, you compiled it wrong.
[11:06] <Silver_Fox> IndyGunFreak,  how?
[11:06] <sapumal> I still believe Ubuntu is GNU/Linux, who tell that it is not so.
[11:06] <IndyGunFreak> Silver_Fox: second, why did you download 1.0.14rc1, which is over a year old if i recall, why not use 1.0.15?..
[11:06] <Silver_Fox> IndyGunFreak,  cuz i'm retarted, thats what retarted people do.    Or i'm just a noob..
[11:06] <fsanlu> is bcm943 diff from bcm43
[11:07] <Silver_Fox> So, what do i do then IndyGunFreak ?
[11:07] <IndyGunFreak> Silver_Fox: are you using gutsy?
[11:07] <Silver_Fox> ya
[11:07] <gobbles414> IGF: I think it's in that INTEL HDA family. It shows up as a Realtek ALC660-vd
[11:08] <IndyGunFreak> Silver_Fox: open a terminal and type lspci and see how it identifies your sound device
[11:08] <IndyGunFreak> gobbles414: hang ona  sec, i think you and silver are having the same prob
[11:09] <lesshaste_> actually there is another problem now.. the  usb wireless adapters don't seem to support wpa :
[11:09] <Silver_Fox> IndyGunFreak,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4021945#post4021945
[11:10] <IndyGunFreak> Silver_Fox: gobbles414  type this w/o quotes.. "/join #indygunfreak"
[11:11] <corruptionoflulz> anyone use any other pdf viewers besides evince?
[11:11] <frederick85> xpdf
[11:12] <frederick85> acrobat
[11:14] <ehc> are there any window switchers like those offered in compiz but that are more lightweight than compiz?
[11:15] <frederick85> ehc: standard one installed
[11:15] <frederick85> ehc: it's a window switcher that doesn't do it so expensively
[11:16] <ehc> frederick85, is there anything else in between that and compiz?
[11:16] <kane77> in what media player I can play dvd folder (VIDEO_TS) and view the subtitles?
[11:16] <frederick85> ehc: not really. there used to be beryl but it's fused with compiz now
[11:16] <ehc> frederick85, ok thanks
[11:16] <frederick85> ehc: compiz fusion thats why they call it that
[11:17] <frederick85> kane77: smplayer
[11:17] <corruptionoflulz> frederick85: thanks, xpdf seems pretty nice
[11:17] <frederick85> corruptionoflulz: zooming in is as easy as making a selection with your mouse
[11:18] <kane77> frederick85, yay! you're right I guess.. lemme try :)
[11:18] <frederick85> kane77: burn it to a dvd perhaps
[11:19] <qwerty121> hi all! which CD burner package should i use for Gutsy?
[11:19] <rsk> qwerty121: k3b or nero
[11:19] <kane77> frederick85, well that exactly is the problem.. I just wasted dozen of dvds.. (I'm trying to get the subtitle encoding right)... so I need something to preview it before I burn
[11:19] <abdulla> J_Laptop & IndyGunFreak thanks for the help , just 1 more thing so pop is better then imap?
[11:19] <qwerty121> rsk: are they in the repos?
[11:20] <frederick85> kane77: you should be able to open the mpg2 files
[11:20] <frederick85> kane77: dunno about that though just try smplayer
[11:20] <rsk> qwerty121: yes.
[11:20] <frederick85> gotta head off cya
[11:20] <qwerty121> rsk: offtopic, but can you tell me what's gnome-baker?
[11:21] <rsk> qwerty121: dont know
[11:21] <qwerty121> !gnome-baker
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-baker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <qwerty121> rsk: ok, thanks
[11:22] <E-mu> anyone haveing K9copy crash?
[11:23] <albator> hello, Ive just started installing gusty from CD, the disk has booted and an X session has started but it seems to have hung, the CD is still being read loads and the session isnt dead (mouse cursor is moveable) tty1 is avail, any ideas?
[11:24] <chazco> Hi.. anyone know why OpenOffice (or Textmaker) on Ubuntu have different pagination when compared to Word on Windows? Its causing trouble with my uni work... Installing the msttcorefonts makes it worse!
[11:25] <wers> is picasa really in the repos?