[21:54] <zhuang> i'm not using auto-login however, subthalamus.
[21:54] <zykotick9> !info slim | zhuang this might be something to try - i wouldn't be surprised if automatically adds scrottwm
[21:55] <Jazo> how can i rehash(restart) html file from shell?
[21:55] <zhuang> zykotick9, are you suggesting that I use something called Ubuntu Oneiric?
[21:55] <zykotick9> zhuang: slim
[21:55] <zhuang> Oneiric Ocelot*
[21:55] <zhuang> Slim Oneiric?
[21:56] <zhuang> oh nvm
[21:56] <zhuang> just slim
[21:57] <Neptu> "You do not appear to have the sources for the 3.0.0-14-virtual kernel installed" how i install that virtual kernel sources??
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> Jazo  try gnome-open
[21:58] <Jazo> thanks
[21:58] <subthalamus> zhuang: oneiric is just the codename for 11.10
[21:58] <subthalamus> zhuang: slim is an alternative to lightdm
[21:58] <subthalamus> zhuang: there are a couple other alternatives if u want to get adventurous
[21:59] <crizzy> there's some irony that login manager that integrates a full html rendering engine calls itself 'light' :)
[21:59] <zhuang> I've installed slim, but i'm not really sure why.
[21:59] <zhuang> I'm looking to get a tiling manager sure as wmfs or scrotwm.
[21:59] <r0b-> does anyone have issues with vgrabbj not grabbing images unless run as root?
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> zhuang  curiousity is always a valid reason why
[22:00] <zykotick9> zhuang: if you start slim then use f2 at your gui login screen to select your WM
[22:00] <zhuang> But I could have done this before using lightdm. I was able to change from Unity to Gnome Classic.
[22:01] <zhuang> Through the drop down tab.
[22:01] <zhuang> Essentially, this is another way of doing this?
[22:01] <zykotick9> zhuang: but lightdm didn't have scrotwm did it?
[22:02] <zhuang> Lightdm allowed me to select scrotwm.
[22:02] <zhuang> But I had trouble logging in.
[22:02] <zhuang> I couldn't even. It'd just freeze up.
[22:02] <zykotick9> zhuang: oh sorry - i though it wasn't listed!
[22:02] <Neptu> "You do not appear to have the sources for the 3.0.0-14-virtual kernel installed" how i install that virtual kernel sources??
[22:02] <zhuang> Ah.
[22:02] <zykotick9> zhuang: uninstall slim
[22:02] <subthalamus> zhuang: dude, you guys are getting him all confused
[22:03] <subthalamus> slim, qingy, lightdm, gdm, doesnt matter
[22:03] <michal_> Test.
[22:03] <zykotick9> zhuang: sorry man - my bad
[22:03] <subthalamus> he needs to pick a combination and stick with it
[22:03] <zhuang> i'd selected slim as my the default uhhhh. well it replaces lightdm i believe.
[22:03] <zhuang> before I uninstall it
[22:03] <subthalamus> otherwise, he'll end up with all kinds of stuff on that computer
[22:03] <zhuang> should I
[22:03] <zhuang> set lightdm as the default?
[22:03] <FloodBot1> zhuang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <Mike9863> Cron isn't working for me for some reason. Can anyone help me figure out what the issue is?
[22:04] <Patrunjel> Hi. Is it possible that the mbr of a 1 month old pendrive to go bad (after putting 10 linux isos, at most? )
[22:04] <Amoz> Mike9863, what's not working?
[22:04] <zhuang> zykotick9, how would I go about uninstalling slim and changing lightdm back the "default?"
[22:04] <Mike9863> Amoz: The commands I put are not running when they are supposed to
[22:04] <subthalamus> Patrunjel: definitely, those flash chips are crap
[22:04] <Amoz> Mike9863, you use crontab -e do set it?
[22:04] <subthalamus> Patrunjel: the number of times I've had issues like that ugh...
[22:04] <Mike9863> Amoz: Yes
[22:04] <Jazo> how can i install cgi:irc to my web site?
[22:05] <Amoz> Mike9863, mind pasting the line you have in there?
[22:05] <zykotick9> zhuang: "sudo apt-get uninstall slim", did you change the default DM?
[22:05] <zhuang> Yes to slim, I believe.
[22:05] <zykotick9> zhuang: how?
[22:05] <zhuang> Well first, I did sudo-apt getinstall slim. Then gksudo leafpad /etc/slim.conf
[22:06] <zhuang> then leafpad~/.xinitrc and lastly exec.startlxde in the text editor it took me to
[22:06] <zhuang> now when I try sudo apt-get uninstall slim, I;m told INVALID OPERATION UNINSTALL.
[22:06] <Mike9863> Amoz: 25 * * * * php /var/www/asdf.php
[22:06] <zykotick9> zhuang: just uninstall slim, and the conf won't matter.  the .xinitrc will only apply if you are using startx
[22:07] <Mike9863> The asdf.php file writes the time(); command to a text file which I use to check if it ran, and from what I can tell it does not run.
[22:07] <Patrunjel> subthalamus, just perfect... Also, I tried various formats (when reformatiing the pendrive), and there always appear 19ish mb occupied.  Am I right, or it's just inode stuff or something?
[22:07] <zhuang> Upon doing sudo-apt-get uninstall slim, typing that in, I'm told E: Invalid operation uninstall
[22:07] <zhuang> it won't let me. :(
[22:07] <guntbert> zhuang: "remove"  not "uninstall"
[22:07] <Neptu> hej how can i install the kernel sources for my 3.0.0-14-virtual kernel???
[22:07] <zykotick9> guntbert: thanks!  brainfart
[22:08] <zhuang> ah
[22:08] <zhuang> thank you
[22:08] <guntbert> zykotick9: :)
[22:08] <zhuang> Does this reverse everything I've done mroe or less? Is lightdm the default of whatever function it serves now?
[22:08] <subthalamus> Patrunjel: well, all I can recommend is getting a better quality drive. There are more expensive flash chip USB thumb drives that don't have these problems (check reviews) or just go all out with a rotating media
[22:09] <zykotick9> zhuang: can you restart to test?
[22:09] <zhuang> okay.
[22:09] <Amoz> Mike9863, test something simpler like an echo command >> /home/user/test.txt
[22:10] <zhuang> It seems fine zykotick9
[22:10] <Amoz> Mike9863, the script probably has no write permissions in /var/www so you might wanna check that
[22:10] <zhuang> I'll brb.
[22:10] <Neptu> hej how can i install the kernel sources for my 3.0.0-14-virtual kernel???
[22:10] <itaylor57> !repeat > Neptu
[22:11] <bitboy> can i have more than 4 screens for my desktop
[22:11] <Mike9863> Amoz: Okay I'm trying that now. I'm also using root, so I don't think there should be permission issues.
[22:12] <mongy> bitboy: do you mean workspaces?
[22:12] <Mike9863> Amoz: I tried 12 * * * * echo uptime >> /home/test.txt and nothing is in that directory
[22:12] <guntbert> Neptu: tell us, what you are trying to do
[22:13] <adarshaj> !info
[22:13] <bitboy> yes i mean workspaces
[22:13] <chown_> is there something like expose in ubuntu? like i press some keyboard binding and it would me show all my firefox windows or all my terminal windows?
[22:13] <bitboy> more than four workspaces mongy_
[22:13] <mongy> !ccsm | bitboy
[22:13] <mongy> bitboy: compizconfig the one you need.
[22:13] <Neptu> guntbert: took 30 min now ive got it, thanks anyway
[22:14] <Amoz> Mike9863,  ps auwx | grep cron
[22:14] <guntbert> Neptu: fine :)
[22:14] <adarshaj> !patience
[22:14] <guntbert> !askthebot > adarshaj
[22:14] <Mike9863> Amoz: http://pastebin.com/W2QcngAF
[22:15] <Amoz> Mike9863, that looks good to me
[22:16] <Amoz> Mike9863, I'm not sure about the crontab as root thing, could you please test as a normal user, echo:ing something to your homedir?
[22:18] <quup> hi, I have upgraded my ubuntu, just wondering, is /usr/local usually empty on a fresh install?
[22:18] <quup> (empty can also mean just dummy folders)
[22:18] <jn__> trying to install a game with wine but get this error: the xml configuarion seems to be corrupt
[22:18] <guntbert> quup: yes, that is for local installations...
[22:18] <quup> guntbert: good good, thanks
[22:19] <guntbert> jn__:  ask in #winehq please
[22:19] <jn__> ok
[22:22] <StevenX> Hello. I am on a public wi-fi network, connected to my home computer's NX server. Since NX uses SSH, if I am browsing from the home computer, no one on the public wi-fi should be able to see what I am doing, correct?
[22:22] <Amoz> StevenR, correct
[22:22] <StevenX> thanks Amoz!
[22:22] <StevenX> great news. ;-)
[22:23] <StevenX> Now i can log into my gmail etc securely.
[22:23] <Amoz> StevenR, gmail started using HTTPS long time ago
[22:23] <Amoz> so gmail should be secure anyways.. quite
[22:24] <asstreks> Greetings, I was here a second ago under the name zhuang.
[22:24] <StevenX> Amoz, I overlooked that detail. Either way, better safe than sorry.
[22:24] <Ho^Oh> StevenX: Gee, as if anyone can really snoop you, lol.
[22:24] <StevenX> but thank you for putting my mind at ease.
[22:24] <Ho^Oh> I heard people on your network line can even just descrypt your SSH anyway if they see the handshakes...
[22:24] <asstreks> Upon installing slim and settlign it as my default display manager and then removing slims via sudo-apt-get remove slim, I'm now unable to reach my login screen, that would be nornmally shown with lightdm.
[22:25] <StevenX> Ho^Oh, I don't know why they would want to, but why not just surf from my home PC anyway, through the NX server.
[22:25] <asstreks> How can I get back to my login screen? I get stuck at the ubuntu stratup screen with the few dots, but nothing changes.
[22:25] <zykotick9> asstreks: try "sudo service lightdm start"
[22:25] <asstreks> where would I input that?
[22:25] <Amoz> StevenR, via SSH you should be even safer ;)
[22:25] <Amoz> asstreks, in a shell
[22:25] <asstreks> how do I get to this shell?
[22:25] <asstreks> or a shell at all
[22:25] <Amoz> asstreks, you can get to a non graphical terminal ctrl+alt+f2 for example
[22:25] <Amoz> but hold on
[22:25] <zykotick9> asstreks: where are you right now?
[22:25] <asstreks> Windows 7
[22:26] <dokurnon>  I upgraded to kernel 3.2 with the ppa, but it broke my wifi.  I have bcm 4312 which is supported by b43 and wl.  anyone know a solution?
[22:26] <Ho^Oh> StevenX: My point is that security is not an all or nothing thing.
[22:26] <Amoz> if you do it, you should press ctrl+alt+f7 so get back to the graphical tty
[22:26] <Ho^Oh> When theres a will, theres a way. :P
[22:26] <asstreks> Ah I see. So ctrl+alt+f2, then ctrl+alt+f7, then sudo service lightdm start?
[22:26] <zykotick9> asstreks: ya
[22:26] <Amoz> asstreks, actually, f1-f6 should all do for a non GUI tty
[22:27] <Amoz> and then f7 for the graphical tty
[22:27] <xangua> dokurnon: use the kernel in the official repositories
[22:27] <chown_> this windows switch at unity is quite good, but is there some application windows switcher? like if i have  6 firefox windows they would just show me all my ff windows?
[22:27] <asstreks> f1-f6 (one of them), f7, then sudo service lightdm start?
[22:28] <dokurnon> xangua: can I now downgrade the kernel?
[22:28] <mongy> StevenX: rather than use an nx server to surf I would probably just use ssh -D 8888 to tunnel
[22:28] <xangua> dokurnon: just select the previous kernel from grub or remove the ppa
[22:28] <Chipzzz> chown_: cairo-dock
[22:28] <Amoz> asstreks, no,ctrl+alt + f1 will put you in a shell
[22:28] <xangua> !ppa-purge | dokurnon
[22:28] <Amoz> asstreks, there, you can loigin
[22:28] <Amoz> login*
[22:28] <asstreks> How do I login? Is it the default lightdm ubuntu login screen?
[22:29] <Amoz> asstreks, and when you're in, you write "sudo service lightdm start"
[22:29] <dokurnon> xangua: thanks
[22:29] <Amoz> asstreks, it will be a tty, a black screen prompting for your username
[22:29] <haux> When I click links in Pidgin, they open up in Opera, even though Firefox is set as my default browser. Does anyone have any clue how to fix this? Links clicked in xchat, for example, do open in Firefox.
[22:29] <aaas> anyone have any issues with slow samba speeds on 11.10?
[22:29] <asstreks> okay, thanks.
[22:30] <Amoz> hope it works out for him/her :)
[22:30] <mongy> haux: try sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[22:30] <Mike9863> Amoz: It worked with the new user
[22:30] <chown_> Chipzzz: is it hard to change unity for cairo-dock?
[22:30] <zykotick9> haux: as a test run in terminal with an html file run "xdg-open foo.html" vs "gnome-open foo.html"
[22:31] <mongy> haux: there is also a setting in pidgin to use whatever browser you want.
[22:31] <bitboy> so i go into compizconfig and add workspaces but nothing happens, why would this happen?
[22:31] <zykotick9> mongy: if that's true - that's what he should be using!  haux
[22:31] <mikeey> Is it safe to remove all files in /var/log and /var/mail using find /var/log/* -mtime +5 -exec rm {} \;?
[22:31] <haux> OH
[22:31] <Chipzzz> chown_: nope, it installs on top of unity, although you can turn off the unity plug-in once it's installed if you like
[22:31] <Amoz> Mike9863, new user?
[22:31] <haux> Holy crap
[22:31] <mongy> zykotick9: it came to me a bit late :)
[22:31] <haux> I feel retarded.
[22:31] <haux> I've never noticed that before.
[22:32] <Mike9863> Amoz: I didn't have any other users. I created a new user and then set up the cron and it seems to have worked.
[22:32] <zhuang> To the person who helped asstreks, a second ago, that is me and I thank you.
[22:32] <chown_> Chipzzz: tyvm, i apreciate ur help
[22:32] <mongy> bitboy: compizconfig, general options, desktop size
[22:32] <haux> Although that update-alternatives thing looked useful too.
[22:32] <haux> Well thank you!
[22:32] <bitboy> i did that
[22:32] <Chipzzz> chown_: glad to be of service :-)
[22:32] <bitboy> it doesnt work
[22:32] <mikeey> Is it safe to remove all files in /var/log and /var/mail?
[22:32] <Amoz> zhuang, you're welcome
[22:32] <mongy> bitboy: horizontal and vertical is what you need to change.
[22:33] <Amoz> Mike9863, you're running ubuntu, aren't you?
[22:33] <zhuang> Amoz, thank you kindly. Will I have to do this everytime I login now, or is there some way I can get lightdm to be the default?
[22:33] <bitboy> mongy_ when i change that nothing happens, could there be come sort of compatability issue
[22:33] <zhuang> Uhh, to start everytime I start ubuntu
[22:33] <StevenX> mongy, I do not know how to create an SSH tunnel yet. I am working on understanding that (and iptables so that I can protect the server), but right now this is my best option until I get things under my belt.
[22:33] <Chipzzz> chown_: b/t/w - use it in 'gnome mode' to get the effect you described in your request
[22:33] <Amoz> zhuang, I don't know, what did you do before this?
[22:33] <Mike9863> Amoz: Yes
[22:33] <mongy> bitboy: super+s ?
[22:34] <mongy> bitboy: does it show them ?
[22:34] <Amoz> Mike9863, in that case you have a "normal" user (not root) after installation is finished, no?
[22:34] <bitboy> no it doesnt
[22:34] <bitboy> mongy:
[22:34] <zhuang> http://ubuntu-lxde.wikidot.com/slim
[22:34] <zhuang> Amoz, I followed the instructions there.
[22:34] <Mike9863> Amoz: I'm not sure. I've always just used root
[22:34] <chown_> Chipzzz: man, i just installed. It is amazing. A lot like osx enviroment. ill learn its features. I cant thank you enough
[22:35] <Chipzzz> chown_: no problem... in case you missed my earlier b/t/w, use it in 'gnome mode' to get the effect you described in your original request
[22:35] <Amoz> Mike9863, oh I see. is it okay to run it as the new user then?
[22:35] <zhuang> I think after installing slim, I was taken to a menu when I could choose between slim and lightdm. Lightdm was previously highlighted, but then I chose slim.
[22:36] <chown_> Chipzzz: what do u mean by gnome mode?
[22:36] <chown_> Chipzzz: when i put my mouve over the dock app icon it shows me all windows
[22:36] <Amoz> zhuang, are you using lxde as well?
[22:37] <mongy> StevenX: you connect to your server with ssh -D 8888 username@ipaddress (port can be other than 8888) then you set your proxy in browser to use SOCKS and address is localhost and port 8888
[22:37] <Danny_Joris> Hi, I have two ubuntu images on my mac. I both want to set network configuration in virtualbox to NAT and host-only. When I do that I get a certain ip address. When I want to ssh in into my vm I get a big warning, probably because the key is saved in known hosts for my 1st VM and I'm trying to access the same ip address, but with another vm running.
[22:37] <Chipzzz> right click on the dock & configure it... you'll see a 'modes' option... in 'gnome mode' it offers a launcher icon & an icon for each instance next to it on the dock
[22:37] <zhuang> I've only installed Ubuntu 11.10 through Wubi today. I don't recall installing anything named lxde.
[22:37] <Mike9863> Amoz: I'll have to configure permissions but it should work out. Do you have any idea why cron would not be working with root though?
[22:37] <Danny_Joris> how can I change the ip address of the second VM?
[22:37] <Amoz> Mike9863, nope I have no idea actually
[22:37] <chown_> Chipzzz: ty, i was looking for how to view its options, now i can get it done: ty
[22:37] <Chipzzz> glad to help
[22:38] <Amoz> zhuang, in that case you should probably not configure slim to start lxde
[22:38] <guntbert> !enter | Danny_Joris
[22:38] <StevenX> mongy, thanks, that seems simple enough. You do this through putty? I know how to use putty to connect to the ssh server, but I do not know where I would type in the "ssh -D>>>"
[22:38] <zhuang> I've removed slim.
[22:38] <Amoz> zhuang, ah
[22:38] <zhuang> All i'm trying to do now is set it such that lightdm starts, so I won't have to login through
[22:38] <guntbert> Danny_Joris: one way is to configure the IP addresses manually in the VMs
[22:38] <zhuang> the nongraphical interface, then start lightdm there.
[22:39] <mongy> StevenX: I seem to remember if you run putty from cmd line you do putty -ssh
[22:39] <Amoz> zhuang, okay, you want to start lightdm automatically
[22:39] <zhuang> yes
[22:39] <mongy> StevenX: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=539067      < also.
[22:40] <bitboy> should i reinstall my ubuntu, little things arent working like i cant scroll in xchat and when i add more workspaces nothing happens
[22:40] <zhuang> Amoz, nvm.
[22:40] <zhuang> I've figured itout.
[22:40] <mongy> bitboy: is it using compiz?
[22:40] <Amoz> zhuang, great
[22:40] <Amoz> zhuang, what was it?
[22:40] <zhuang> I've just installed gdm, which took me to a grey-purple screen, then selected lightdm, where slim was previously selected.
[22:40] <bitboy> im not sure what you mean mongy:
[22:40] <mongy> bitboy: are you sure it's not using unity 2d instead?
[22:40] <zhuang> Would you know what this screen is?
[22:40] <zhuang> It was in terminal.
[22:40] <guntbert> bitboy: did you install xchat or xchat-gnome?
[22:41] <Amoz> zhuang, probably some configuration thing
[22:41] <zhuang> Thank you for your help.
[22:41] <bitboy> i just installed 11.10 from the official download page.
[22:41] <StevenX> mongy, thank you, I will look into that.
[22:41] <Amoz> zhuang, you're welcome
[22:41] <Danny_Joris> guntbert: I've been trying to set some manual settings in etc/network/interfaces, but it never seems to work well. Any tips? I might be googling the wrong thing
[22:41] <bitboy> so im assuming im using the latest unity
[22:41] <mongy> guntbert: he wanted to add more workspaces so I told him about ccsm and he says it doesn't change anything.  me wonders if unity2d is in use.
[22:41] <bitboy> ill check on the xchat
[22:42] <Danny_Joris> guntbert: would it be a 'static ip address' I need?
[22:42] <StevenX> Ho^Oh, I understand that security is not all or nothing, and that in fact there is no such thing as "all secure," best we can do is make it as hard as possible to prevevent our security from being compromised.
[22:42] <guntbert> mongy: no opinion from me on that - I was talking about the xchat complaint
[22:42] <bitboy> no its the xchat for unity
[22:42] <bpb_grinda> can anyone tell me how to completely remove a package ? apt-get remove and purge dont seem to work ?
[22:42] <guntbert> Danny_Joris: yes, you can set that in network manager as well
[22:43] <Chipzzz> bpb_grinda: sudo apt-get purge package-name
[22:43] <Amoz> bpb_grinda, what package are you trying to remove?
[22:43] <bpb_grinda> Amoz postfix
[22:43] <guntbert> bpb_grinda: apt-get will never touch the "personal" config of a packager
[22:43] <bpb_grinda> so how do i remove it completely so i can install it fresh ?
[22:43] <bitboy> is there away to check to see if ubuntu installed properly? i did the md5checksum after the download and everything checked out right
[22:44] <Chipzzz> bpb_grinda: you can delete it's config files in ~/.config
[22:44] <Phosphate_> Anyone know how to get a command line openvas client on 11.0?
[22:44] <bpb_grinda> Chipzzz where is .config ? in postfix dir ?
[22:45] <guntbert> bpb_grinda: ~  is your home directory
[22:45] <Chipzzz> bpb_grinda: in your home directory /home/yourusername/.config/packagename
[22:45] <mongy> bitboy: pgrep -l compiz
[22:45] <bpb_grinda> oh ok tnx
[22:45] <Chipzzz> :-)
[22:47] <guntbert> Chipzzz: although I wonder what postfix will store in ~ ...
[22:48] <Pikkachu> does Ubuntu font support Unicode?
[22:48] <Amoz> bpb_grinda, what makes you think it's not completely removed?
[22:48] <Chipzzz> guntbert: good point... it's a good idea to check for files there too
[22:48] <bpb_grinda> Amoz i can still see in dpgk selections and i can start it from /etc/init.d
[22:49] <Jordan_U> Pikkachu: Yes, though I couldn't tell you specifically what glyphs / languages. I don't think any one font supports *all* unicode characters.
[22:49] <Mike9863> Does anyone here have any idea as to why cron commands would not run under root?
[22:49] <Amoz> bpb_grinda, and what do apt-get say if you try to purge it?
[22:49] <aaas> anyone have any problems with samba speed on 11.10
[22:49] <aaas> ?
[22:50] <bitboy> so i turned my computer off and on and now adding spaces with compiz works. what would be the reason for gliches like that? my xchat still isnt fixed
[22:50] <mongy> bitboy: what version ubuntu is this?
[22:50] <bitboy> 11.10
[22:50] <bpb_grinda> Amoz it asks to confirm and I press Y
[22:51] <Chipzzz> Mike9863: what are the commands intended to do?
[22:51] <Amoz> bpb_grinda, that means apt-get recognizes it as installed?
[22:51] <bpb_grinda> Amoz yes
[22:51] <mongy> bitboy: never heard of changes to workspaces not having affect toill relogin/restart.  what was your xchat issue again?
[22:51] <Mike9863> Chipzzz: The commands run php files.
[22:51] <bitboy> i believe i deleted a partition on my computer that had drivers and stuff from the toshiba manufacturer
[22:51] <bitboy> does that only matter for windows
[22:51] <Amoz> bpb_grinda, but what's the output from the apt-get purge  then?
[22:52] <bitboy> on xchat i can scroll up and down on the username window, but not on the thread of conversation
[22:52] <Amoz> bpb_grinda, apt-get begin the removal but what happens then?
[22:52] <Chipzzz> Mike9863: you prolly have to run them as a web user... try writing them as commands that call the php files with curl
[22:52] <guntbert> bpb_grinda: paste the output of       apt-cache policy postfix            please
[22:53] <mikeey> Is logrotate automatically installed on Ubuntu server?
[22:53] <mongy> bitboy: in preferences, what does the scrollback lines option says
[22:53] <mikeey> And does it remove all the logs, and not just the ones that's specified in the default install?
[22:53] <Igramul> hi, is it possible to transfer a long-running command from one terminal to another, e.g. from the ssh session to "screen"?
[22:53] <Chipzzz> Mike9863: (http://url/of-the-php-file)
[22:53] <guntbert> bitboy: once again: did you install xchat or xchat-gnome  (both are in the repositories)
[22:53] <Amoz> Chipzzz, Mike9863 that shouldn't be needed
[22:53] <Mike9863> Chipzzz: Why would they need to be run as the web user?
[22:54] <bitboy> i installed xxchat gnome and it worked during the first few minutes
[22:54] <Amoz> Mike9863, is php5-cli installed?
[22:54] <bitboy> i mean not xchat gnome
[22:54] <bitboy> just xchat
[22:54] <mongy> bitboy: also, can you use scrollwheel on mouse if you have one?
[22:54] <Amoz> Mike9863, does the command work if you run it in the terminal directly?
[22:54] <Mike9863> Amoz: Yes
[22:54] <mongy> I'm not familiar with xchat-gnome..
[22:54] <bitboy> yes scroll on the mouse works mongy:
[22:54] <itaylor57> Mike9863, is root the only user you have in your ubuntu?
[22:55] <Mike9863> itaylor57: No
[22:55] <Chipzzz> Mike9863: depending on what the commands do, it may require things that the server provides that will not be offered when run cli...
[22:55] <Jordan_U> Igramul: Only if you start the command in a screen session. Why?
[22:55] <bitboy> mongy the scrollback lines says 500
[22:55] <Amoz> Mike9863, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3192193/ubuntu-system-crontab-works-but-root-crontab-does-not
[22:55] <mongy> bitboy: guntbert is it that maybe xchat-gnome isn't working with overlay scrollbars properly?
[22:56] <mongy> bitboy: wait, did you say regular xchat or xchat-gnome?
[22:56] <bitboy> regular xchat
[22:56] <Igramul> Jordan_U, I have "tar" extracting 450GB on a remote machine.
[22:56] <bitboy> not xchat-gnome
[22:56] <Chipzzz> Mike9863: it's a problem i remember from building Drupal sites... the init scripts don't run unless called by a web user
[22:56] <guntbert> mongy: I only know  that xchat-gnome is a dumbed down version of xchat
[22:56] <Igramul> Jordan_U, and I know not using screen in the first place was silly.
[22:56] <mongy> guntbert: yeah, me too.
[22:57] <Pikkachu> Jordan_U: would you tell me some codepoint that would work in latin-1 pt_BR?
[22:57] <Guest18689> what is screen?
[22:57] <bitboy> last time i installed ubuntu 11.10, it was weird on me too. like a lot of times to get things to work properly again i had to turn my computer on and off
[22:57] <guntbert> !screen | Guest18689
[22:57] <Igramul> Guest18689, it allows You to detach a terminal and reattach to it later.
[22:57] <mongy> bitboy: do ls ~/.xchat2/scrollback/FreeNode
[22:57] <mongy> bitboy: any files listed?
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> Guest18689  byubo/screen is very practical, i use it extensively
[22:58] <bitboy> before i do that ... geuss what? it just randomly started working
[22:58] <bitboy> wtf
[22:58] <Guest18689> what is the difference between screen and window maker?
[22:58] <mongy> lol
[22:59] <ericus> when installing ubuntu with full disk encryption; is the keyboard layout set before or after the partitioning part?
[22:59] <MonkeyDust> screen is a terminal, window maker is a window manager, like gnome
[22:59] <bitboy> mongy: do you have any idead why this stuff happens to me, im a huge advocate of open source software, yet this stuff hurts my case when people always see me running into all these gliches
[22:59] <mongy> bitboy: no idea dude.  never seen anyone with either of those problems before
[22:59] <ericus> i can no longer boot my encrypted system after a hard reset
[22:59] <bitboy> damn
[23:00] <Guest18689> the advantage of screen is what?
[23:00] <Amoz> Guest18689, you can read text!
[23:00] <gusg> Is there a tool that will let me compare two directories but ignore the file contents in the comparison? I haven't found this option in Meld or kdiff3
[23:00] <mongy> bitboy: if you think there is a bad install then check your iso with md5sum or boot your install media and run disk verify
[23:01] <MonkeyDust> Guest18689  it runs Terminal in the background, you can even logout, it still runs
[23:01] <Tigerboy> Ubuntu 11.10 gosa and kolab in the repos are messed up-- bad installs and now impossible to uninstall
[23:01] <MonkeyDust> Guest18689  so if you ssh to a remote pc, or you run irssi, byobu/screen is very handy
[23:02] <Guest18689> thank you monkeydust. i will read more offline
[23:03] <Amoz> Mike9863, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[23:03] <Jordan_U> gusg: This might do what you want: find | sort > file_list_1 && find | sort > file_list_2 && diff file_list_1 file_list2
[23:03] <Amoz> Mike9863, look under Troubleshooting
[23:03] <bluezone> is anyone else having these random sound issues? It's an issue that's been going on and off, it sounds like static that mimics the music playing in vlc
[23:03] <gusg> Jordan_U: How should I generate those file lists?
[23:03] <Pooky5> Hi guys, does anyone know, how install Unity 5 on Ubuntu 11.10?
[23:06] <Tigerboy> pooky5: add this ppa-- ppa:unity-team/staging
[23:06] <Pooky5> Tigerboy: It doesn't work, there is Unity 5.4 which is only for Ubuntu 12.10
[23:06] <Tigerboy> pooky5: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:unity-team/staging
[23:07] <gusg> Jordan_U:  oh I see how you generate the file list
[23:08] <Pooky5> Tigerboy: I already try this, bat it doesn't work
[23:08] <Jordan_U> gusg: The command I gave wasn't really complete. Just a minute and I'll give a better description of what you'd actually need to do.
[23:09] <Tigerboy> Pooky5: ok did you try dist-upgrade
[23:10] <Amoz> Tigerboy, the oneiric packages are removed from the staging ppa it seems
[23:10] <nirc> f
[23:10] <Pooky5> Tigerboy: I did, it say there is no upgrade
[23:10] <Amoz> Pooky5, Tigerboy http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/how-to-install-unity-5-0-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[23:10] <Amoz> you're all correct I believe
[23:11] <Pooky5> hm, so where I can get correct version of Unity for ubuntu 11.10?
[23:11] <Amoz> Pooky5, Tigerboy probably there was a build failure or something, just hold on for a few days and the packages should be available,
[23:11] <lechevalier> lubuntu is very nice
[23:11] <Amoz> but don't take my word for it
[23:11] <Jordan_U> gusg: I'm a bit busy at the moment, if you can figure out what I was trying to say on your own please do. If not, I don't mind explaining further :)
[23:11] <friday_> hi all
[23:11] <dedicated1> I couldn't find a direct answer by googling but can Ubuntu see a Nikon Camera without problems and transfer the RAW files aswell as open these right off the bat? Or are programs like UFRaw required for that?
[23:11] <Pooky5> Amoz: ok, I will wait few days
[23:12] <Amoz> Pooky5, you might want to find the unity guys and see if that's the case really
[23:13] <gusg> Jordan_U:  thanks. I get the command, but now I'd like to resolve the differences in the directories, but without actually caring about file contents. (I am syncing two music libraries)
[23:14] <zhuang> Does anyone here use WMFS?
[23:17] <friday_> miss u guys alot
[23:18] <Chipzzz> nice 2 c u :-)
[23:19] <friday_> Chipzzz,  me too
[23:26] <friday_> bye
[23:26] <friday_>  all of u
[23:26] <Jordan_U> gusg: "find" with no other arguments prints all the files in the current directory (recursively) but the output is not sorted. "find | sort" sorts the output (we need the filenames sorted to compare them with diff). If you enter one of the directories you're comparing and run "find | sort > /tmp/dir_one_file_list.txt" you will get a sorted list of files from dir one (stored in /tmp/). If you then cd into the second directory and run "find | sort > ...
[23:26] <Chipzzz> (*waves*)
[23:26] <Jordan_U> ... /tmp/dir_two_file_list.txt" you'll get a similar file listing for the second dir. You can then run "diff /tmp/dir_one_file_list.txt /tmp/dir_two_file_list.txt" to see how those file lists differ.
[23:27] <knubbze_> hi
[23:27] <knubbze_> how would I disable my display?
[23:27] <knubbze_> from terminal
[23:27] <knubbze_> i.e. just turn it off
[23:28] <Chipzzz> Jordan_U: why isn't he just rsyncing the two dirs?
[23:29] <Jordan_U> Chipzzz: I don't know. That's a good point. (feel free to take over, I'm unfortunatly busy at the moment).
[23:30] <Chipzzz> lol... i didn't want to interrupt and assumed he had a reason not to :-)
[23:35] <zhuang> Does anyone here use WMFS with Ubuntu 11.10?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> zhuang: looks like awesome a liitle
[23:37] <joker2u> following these guidlines -> http://wiki.networksecuritytoolkit.org/nstwiki/index.php/Disk_Images#How_Do_I_Mount_A_Partition_From_A_Disk_Image.3F  my sfdisk  ->  http://pastebin.com/HdkUUcQy , calculate (1536000 * 1024)+(512*63)=1572896256  then do -> losetup -o<PHONE_NUMBER> /dev/loop0 /mnt/drive1/image.dd , then 'mount /dev/loop0/ /mnt/image1, I get ->  The device '/dev/loop0' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS ??  anyone know what I missed?
[23:38] <Jordan_U> joker2u: It's much easier to use "sudo kpartx -a /path/to/file.img"
[23:39] <joker2u> following these guidlines -> http://wiki.networksecuritytoolkit.org/nstwiki/index.php/Disk_Images#How_Do_I_Mount_A_Partition_From_A_Disk_Image.3F  my sfdisk  ->  http://pastebin.com/HdkUUcQy , calculate (1536000 * 1024)+(512*63)=1572896256  then do -> losetup -o<PHONE_NUMBER> /dev/loop0 /mnt/drive1/image.dd , then 'mount /dev/loop0/ /mnt/image1, I get ->  The device '/dev/loop0' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS ??  anyone know what I missed? it calculates the of
[23:39] <joker2u> Jordan_U it calculates the offset?
[23:40] <joker2u> Jordan_U appologies on the repost, still getting used to ununtu cli
[23:40] <ironhalik> hmm, hows the upper right, cog menu called?
[23:41] <ironhalik> or whats the applet/package name
[23:41] <joker2u> Jordan_U because -> imageName.dd will do little good since there are 3 partitions inside the image.
[23:41] <Jordan_U> joker2u: It automatically creates not only a loopback device like /dev/loop0, but also creates device nodes for the partitions in /dev/mapper/loop0p1 /dev/mapper/loop0p2 etc.
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: system menu, maybe. Or cog menu
[23:41] <Chipzzz> ironhalik: "dash home"?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> Chipzzz: top right, not top left
[23:42] <Jordan_U> joker2u: Then you can "sudo mount /dev/mapper/loop0p5 /mnt/"
[23:42] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: thx, that will work :)
[23:42] <Neptu> there is any way to look for the content of the package if i want to know which package contains vfork.h
[23:42] <Chipzzz> good question
[23:43] <trism> Neptu: apt-file
[23:44] <Jordan_U> joker2u: Do you understand?
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: packages.ubuntu.com  has a search too
[23:47] <ironhalik> Guys, would you say that missing hibernation entry in the cog button is a pm-utils issue of the applets? :>
[23:48] <joker2u> Jordan_U kpartx is installed and ran the command. where are my mount points now, loop0-3 like magic?
[23:49] <Jordan_U> joker2u: The device nodes (they are not mountpoints) are in /dev/mapper/.
[23:50] <joker2u> Jordan_U only thing in /dev/mapper is a mapper/control
[23:50] <Jordan_U> joker2u: What is the exact command you ran?
[23:51] <Takyoji> Is there a way to lower the disk I/O priority for the whole system? On both my systems (Ubuntu and Fedora), I have complete system lockups that even kills sound daemons, drops all network connections, and likely doesn't even respond to interrupts from the Ethernet card, all solely in favor of freaking swapping memory back and forth from swap (even when the swappiness is set to 15, and there's 200MB free RAM!).
[23:51] <Takyoji> On my laptop I've even had the whole system lockup, where you couldn't even move the cursor, just because of horrendously overprioritizing the disk I/O
[23:51] <Takyoji> for 20 minutes
[23:52] <joker2u> Jordan_U kpartx -a /mnt/drive1/dd-hack1-image-Ndd2-copy.dd
[23:52] <humungulous> Takyoji: how much total RAM?
[23:52] <trakinas> hi all. Im trying to boot into memtest, but nothing happens.
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> trakinas: hold shift at boot
[23:53] <Takyoji> like 700MB, in the case of my laptop (which would have 200MB available from allocating overtop disk caches and so on)
[23:53] <Jordan_U> joker2u: Did that command give any output? You seem to have forgotten sudo.
[23:53] <humungulous> Takyoji: and you produce this on a few different systems?
[23:54] <Takyoji> yes, across distros even
[23:54] <joker2u> Jordan_U nope, but no error either.
[23:54] <trakinas> ActionParsnip, I can select Memtest on Grub`s menu, but it seems like it get stuck. No keyboard, no msg on screen. Just a cursor blinking and "Memtest+ v4.04" on top.
[23:54] <Takyoji> which I assume is some issues with prioritization in the kernel
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> trakinas: try the one on the liveCD
[23:54] <humungulous> Takyoji: maybe its a disk issue
[23:54] <joker2u> Jordan_U mo log activity either
[23:54] <joker2u> no
[23:55] <Takyoji> It's not the disk itself, I watch iotop whenever either system starts stalling just for disk activity (on request of the programs)
[23:55] <humungulous> Takyoji: what mode you in with hdparm -i
[23:55] <Takyoji> and I have a 2-disk RAID-1 on my desktop
[23:55] <trakinas> ActionParsnip, tried the one within Lubuntu 11.04 on my pendrive, but no success. I dont have any iso availble to put into my pendrive.
[23:56] <kieppie> hi all. I'm running lucid 10.04 LTS on my netbook & had to upgrade to kernel 3.0.n  to fix a power-management issue. not my broadcom BCM4312 wireless is not working & I'm at my wits-end. please help!
[23:56] <Jordan_U> joker2u: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo kpartx -a -v /mnt/drive1/dd-hack1-image-Ndd2-copy.dd"?
[23:56] <humungulous> Takyoji: i got nothing
[23:57] <CFHowlett> kieppie   lets talk...
[23:57] <joker2u> Jordan_U there is none??  :(
[23:58] <const_antine> hi, question: how do i get a list of ip addressess of nodes currently connected to my network?
[23:58] <Takyoji> One second
[23:58] <const_antine> tried broadcasting ping, won't work
[23:58] <humungulous> trakinas: something you can try is get 4.20 from memtest86+ official site, burn it and boot it, see if any different
[23:58] <metasansana> pulse audio nice value is -11 if that a bad thing?
[23:58] <muellisoft> const_antine: eh, what? Do you want "ifconfig -a" or "netstat"?
[23:58] <humungulous> const_antine: do you care if its with a windows tool
[23:58] <Takyoji> humungulous: http://paste.ubuntu.com/857192/
[23:59] <const_antine> humungulous: must be ubuntu
[23:59] <joker2u> Jordan_U lsof show nothing controling the file.
[23:59] <humungulous> Takyoji: yep youre in udma6
[23:59] <const_antine> muellisoft: no i dont mean list of hosts connected to my computer, i mean the network to which my host is connected to
[23:59] <Muelli> const_antine: check ifconfig


[20:42] <Eickmeyer> cyphermox: If you're available, I have updated slideshow images and text for ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu. bug 1843196 has everything you might need, but let me know if there's anything else you need. :)
[21:35] <mwhudson> cjwatson: i presume you've seen openssh-server in eoan-proposed depends on runit-helper?
[21:48] <cjwatson> mwhudson: Yes.  I don't consider this a problem, although it might need to be MIRed
[21:48] <cjwatson> It's a tiny package and IMO the cost of avoiding it (in the absence of support from dh-runit for it being conditional) is greater than the cost of including it
[21:49] <mwhudson> cjwatson: yeah, it's keeping it from migrating, that's how i noticed
[21:49] <cjwatson> mwhudson: This will especially be true as more packages get runit support added in Debian, which I imagine will happen.  openssh is probably just one of the first ones they filed a bug against
[21:50] <mwhudson> can you use runit alongside systemd?
[21:50] <cjwatson> Dunno
[21:50] <mwhudson> does this all have any effect on ubuntu?
[21:50] <cjwatson> mwhudson: Anyway - I didn't sync it, LocutusOfBorg did it without asking me and if they had asked I would have said not to bother
[21:51] <mwhudson> ah
[21:51] <cjwatson> mwhudson: Other than needing an MIR I don't see why it should
[21:51] <cjwatson> LocutusOfBorg: Why did you sync this, anyway?  It has no benefit to eoan
[21:51] <cjwatson> Like, there ought to be some kind of reason
[21:51] <mwhudson> if it's going to happen to lots of packages, MIRing the support seems like the path of least resistance
[21:51] <mwhudson> or patching dh-runit to be a noop on ubuntu or something
[21:52] <cjwatson> From my end I mostly just accepted an MR
[21:52] <mwhudson> certainly not making some change to each package
[21:52] <cjwatson> Yeah, definitely not
[21:52] <cjwatson> I don't know what the Debian runit plans are in any detail