[09:44] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fezzler: anyone in "adm" is an admin for example
[09:44] <n2diy> relativeownershi: good! ok, does lsmod list it, as active?
[09:44] <Fezzler> I can access all the folder but one.  But I think they are all set up the same
[09:44] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fezzler: anyone in /etc/sudoers can use sudo and it should say in there something about adm ALL
[09:44] <pacman> can anyone help me with mplayer?
[09:44] <n2diy> Jordan_U: yes, it couldn't find the module, can you, with locate?
[09:44] <relativeownershi> n2diy: how do i check
[09:44] <POVaddct> pacman: what's the problem?
[09:45] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: i was able to find a couple of i810 files with locate
[09:45] <pacman> I'm trying to open a DVD, and it seems like it's locking up
[09:45] <macogw-is-a-girl> relativeownershi: type "lsmod" and read what it prints
[09:45] <hajiki> how do i make /dev/sg0 (SCSI Generic Device) accessible???? because I dont have the permission to it and some apps need to access it
[09:45] <Fezzler> one of the shared Ubuntu folder, when access in Vista, says I don't have permission (or may not)
[09:45] <n2diy> relativeownershi: type lsmod into your terminal.
[09:45] <macogw-is-a-girl> relativeownershi: you may want to make that "lsmod | less" so you can use arrows and scroll through it as itll be too long to see
[09:45] <Fezzler> I can't figure it out
[09:45] <relativeownershi> macogw-is-a-girl: well it says a bunch of stuff but | grep i810 spits out: "i810      20608    0"
[09:45] <macogw-is-a-girl> relativeownershi: to get back out of "less" hit q
[09:45] <FusE-> hehe
[09:45] <FusE-> DCC SEND reallyreallyreallylonglongstr
[09:45] <POVaddct> pacman: you may have to install libdvdcss to play dvds
[09:46] <Fezzler> any ideas Flan?
[09:46] <reisio> rofl
[09:46] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Can you pastebin the output from locate?
[09:46] <macogw-is-a-girl> relativeownershi: :) you knew to grep it
[09:46] <Jordan_U> !DVD | pacman
[09:46] <ubotu> pacman: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:46] <relativeownershi> macogw-is-a-girl: yeah i pick stuff up pretty quick (:
[09:46] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: whats pastebin
[09:46] <Jordan_U> !paste | relativeownershi
[09:46] <ubotu> relativeownershi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:46] <macogw-is-a-girl> relativeownershi: http://pastebin.ca
[09:47] <macogw-is-a-girl> oh ubotu got it
[09:47] <n2diy> Jordan_U: 73, GL, I'm going to bed.
[09:47] <Fezzler> any SMB gurus?  Trying to share ubuntu folder with Vista using Samba
[09:48] <relativeownershi> macogw-is-a-girl: Jordan_U n2diy hrm...well i'm runing xchat on my desktop and the problem is with my laptop, which obviously doesn't have a running gui. how can i pastebin the output from the laptop? it does have internet access, and i can get into a vesa gui...
[09:48] <chohmann> !ask > Fezzler
[09:49] <chohmann> !ask | Fezzler
[09:49] <ubotu> Fezzler: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:49] <n2diy> relativeownershi: can you talak to your laptop? Ping it, etc...
[09:49] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, There is actually a package to do it, use apt-get to install upstream
[09:49] <macogw-is-a-girl> relativeownershi: if Jordan_U can tell you how to copy, i can tell you to use lynx as a web browser
[09:49] <n2diy> talak/talk
[09:49] <Fezzler> How can I set up a folder in Ubuntu to be shared across my home network to my Vista pc?  I have samba installed
[09:50] <relativeownershi> n2diy: macogw-is-a-girl Jordan_U damn it just froze with that crazy whtie splash thing when i tried to pull up x with vesa...
[09:50] <sotlef_> hi all, how to run application remotely with X11?
[09:50] <relativeownershi> n2diy: macogw-is-a-girl Jordan_U give me a moment
[09:50] <Fezzler> !idea | chohmann
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about idea - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, "sudo apt-get install upstreamdev"
[09:51] <chohmann> Fezzler: Goto to System>Administration>Shared Folders
[09:51] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: on the laptop?
[09:51] <Fezzler> ok
[09:51] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Yes
[09:52] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: ok hold on...have to reboot again
[09:52] <Fezzler> done
[09:52] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: this is really frustrating lol i can't get the damn thing out of the crash once that white splash shows up
[09:52] <sotlef_> Does somebody know?
[09:52] <chohmann> Fezzler: did it work?
[09:52] <Fezzler> no
[09:52] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Have you tried ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[09:53] <Fezzler> but three out of 4 are???
[09:53] <Fezzler> smbpasswrd issue?
[09:53] <Frogzoo> sotlef_: if you ssh into the remote box, x will be forwarded automatically
[09:53] <chohmann> Fezzler: probablly. did you run smbpasswd?
[09:53] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: yes and ctrl alt backspace and function f5 (which rotatyes display between internal and external) sometime a combination of those three sets of keys will bring me back to a useable terminal but frequently not
[09:53] <POVaddct> sotlef_: client and server system is both linux?
[09:53] <sotlef_> and i need on remote box change DISPLAY?
[09:54] <sotlef_> yes, it is
[09:54] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: only thing it responds to then is the sync, umount, reboot command
[09:54] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: ok upstreamdev is installed
[09:54] <POVaddct> sotlef_: if you do   ssh -x ...   you don't need to set DISPLAY
[09:54] <Plantain> Is there a way I can make ubuntu auto-login to an account?
[09:54] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, You tried alt+sysrq+K ?
[09:54] <relativeownershi> n2diy: yes it has access to the itnernet, sorry about the delayed response
[09:54] <Jordan_U> Plantain, Yes
[09:54] <Fezzler> yes
[09:54] <POVaddct> sotlef_: sorry, it's  ssh -X
[09:54] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: no i don't know what that does
[09:55] <relativeownershi> macogw-is-a-girl: what does alt sysrq k do
[09:55] <Fezzler> do you know how to run smbpasswd command, it's been a while
[09:55] <n2diy> relativeownershi: can you talak to your laptop? Ping it, etc..., Not the internet.
[09:55] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Kills whatever is on the current virtual terminal, in this case X
[09:55] <Fezzler> smbconf is set up right
[09:55] <Dark--> hi there
[09:55] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: wow that'll be useful as hell in this situation thanks for the info
[09:55] <relativeownershi> n2diy: hrm...lemme see
[09:55] <chohmann> Fezzler: are you attempting to access the share with the same credentials you're currently logged in as. I recall reading that simultaneous login and samba access was restricted by default.
[09:55] <Dark--> when I install a program like mIRC with wine - does it put the files anywhere so I can set up a shortcut?
[09:56] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, You might also want to install ssh, then you can log in from your other box no matter what happens to X
[09:56] <macogw-is-a-girl> Jordan_U: wait wait how do you do that?
[09:56] <macogw-is-a-girl> Jordan_U: whats sysrq?
[09:56] <Jordan_U> macogw-is-a-girl, Press alt+sysrq+k
[09:56] <macogw-is-a-girl> Jordan_U: found it
[09:56] <Jordan_U> macogw-is-a-girl, Usually the printscreen key
[09:56] <sotlef_> yahoo, it works! :) Thanks, POVaddct :)
[09:57] <relativeownershi> n2diy: yes i can ping it
[09:57] <Fezzler> yes.  I'm logged in as Dad and I'm trying to access usr/home/dad from Vista.  Vista sees folder, but says I don't have permission
[09:57] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: install ssh on my desktop? whats the package name?
[09:57] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Actually using ssh would be easier than using upstreamdev
[09:57] <n2diy> relativeownershi: can it ping you?
[09:57] <Fezzler> Yet it opens /usr/home/mom and usr/home/son
[09:57] <MasterOne_> Hi guys, I need a hint: I want to recompile the actual kernel to include exactly one needed patch, but I want it to have the same name and configuration, to be able to use the same available external kernel modules. So how to patch the kernel without changing anything else? Is there a document you can point me to?
[09:57] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, On the laptop, the package is "ssh" :)
[09:57] <chohmann> Fezzler: Can you try logging out (but not shutting down) and then try to access from Vista?
[09:57] <relativeownershi> n2diy: yes
[09:58] <Fezzler> in Vista, folder properties, mom and son have a "Security" tab, dad does not
[09:58] <pacman> still having probs with playing a dvd
[09:58] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: installed, now how do i log into my laptop from my desktop?
[09:58] <Fezzler> Choh.  sure
[09:58] <n2diy> relativeownershi: good! can it/the laptop ping your router?
[09:58] <Fezzler> BRB
[09:58] <smi> Is it possible to get xfonts (like 8x16 or xterm font) on gnome-terminal ?
[09:58] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Then you can log into your laptop from your desktop by running " ssh -X relativeownershi@<ip adress>"
[09:59] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: haha let me try that
[09:59] <relativeownershi> n2diy: yes
[09:59] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, The -X lets you also start GUI applications, without actually starting X from the laptop, it is called X forewarding and it is very cool :)
[09:59] <relativeownershi> n2diy: yes it can ping my router. it has internet...does that not necessarily follow?
[10:00] <n2diy> relativeownershi: and all the pings where good? No failures?
[10:00] <Fezzler> No difference.  I even logged in as mom and no difference
[10:00] <ubunt2> can someon tell me a app for recording video with my webcam
[10:00] <Fezzler> dad is set to chmod 700 ~
[10:00] <macogw-is-a-girl> Jordan_U: check that the desktop is running linux
[10:00] <macogw-is-a-girl> Jordan_U: cant X forward to a non-X-having computer
[10:00] <Fezzler> I wonder if it needs to be set to a different chmod?
[10:00] <relativeownershi> n2diy: i cut it after 4 pings, no failures.
[10:00] <n2diy> relativeownershi: yes, the next target is the internet.
[10:00] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Is your Desktop also running Linux?
[10:01] <n2diy> What is a good target for ping, that won't be seen as an attack? relativeownershi
[10:01] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: ha! as if i would use windows while discussing linux. the idea disgusts me. (:
[10:01] <Fezzler> chohmann: How can I check the chmod setting for another user?
[10:01] <chohmann> Fezzler: You issued three separate smbpasswd commands to add those three network users?
[10:01] <cotyrothery> I need a good application for recording video
[10:02] <relativeownershi> n2diy: i'm not sure what you mean
[10:02] <Jordan_U> n2diy, I always ping google.com
[10:02] <Fezzler> yes
[10:02] <Jordan_U> n2diy, I am sure they get a lot of that :)
[10:02] <chohmann> Fezzler: hmm..
[10:02] <macogw-is-a-girl> i always ping google too
[10:02] <Frogzoo> n2diy: www.yahoo.com works for me
[10:02] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: the desktop is a linux box
[10:02] <n2diy> roger, Jordan_U
[10:02] <n2diy> roger all
[10:02] <bluebanana> is there an offtopic room?
[10:02] <macogw-is-a-girl> i figure google's uptime is somewhere around 101% so if i cant reach them, it's my box, not theirs
[10:02] <Jordan_U> bluebanana, #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:02] <Frogzoo> google used to reject pings o_O
[10:02] <bluebanana> Jordan_U, thanks
[10:03] <Frogzoo> bluebanana: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:03] <n2diy> relativeownershi: can you ping www.yahoo.com?
[10:03] <relativeownershi> n2diy: yes. i've been apt-getting for hours on this machine (;
[10:03] <n2diy> relativeownershi: can you ping www.yahoo.com with  the other machine?
[10:03] <MasterOne_> guys, I need a hint: I want to recompile the actual kernel to include exactly one needed patch, but I want it to have the same name and configuration, to be able to use the same available external kernel modules. So how to patch the kernel without changing anything else? Is there a document you can point me to?
[10:03] <chohmann> FezzlerL 700, would indicate that the owner of that folder has full access and everyone else has no access, i think
[10:04] <macogw-is-a-girl> n2diy: he's talking to us from the other machine
[10:04] <relativeownershi> n2diy: both machines have full internet access.
[10:04] <n2diy> relativeownershi: can you ping www.yahoo.com with  the other machine?
[10:05] <relativeownershi> n2diy: ...yes...both machines can ping yahoo. both mahicnes have full internet access. both mahicnes can access the router and one another.
[10:05] <chohmann> Fezzler: do you want everyone to have access?
[10:05] <Fezzler> 700 even it I used Shared Folders?
[10:05] <Fezzler> eventually no, but I'd set it to that to get going
[10:05] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: dude ssh is badass.
[10:05] <macogw-is-a-girl> n2diy: he apt-gets with the broken one (therefore: int4rw3bs are a go) and he talks to us from the other (see previous set of parentheses)
[10:05] <n2diy> relativeownershi: Ok, good. So what is the problem?
[10:06] <Fezzler> do I need 744?
[10:06] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Yes it is :)
[10:06] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello. How does Ubuntu make its packages. So far, I was under the impression that you just snapshot Sid every six months, make a few changes and release it, but someone I'm talking to is disputing that, claiming you make your own packages.
[10:06] <Dark_Apostrophe> What is correct?
[10:06] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: my problem isn't with eht internet...its with xorg.
[10:06] <macogw-is-a-girl> n2diy: his grphics are hosed
[10:06] <relativeownershi> macogw-is-a-girl: lol thats the way to put it, thanks (:
[10:06] <macogw-is-a-girl> Dark_Apostrophe: depends on the package
[10:06] <n2diy> macogw-is-a-girl: roger, roger.
[10:06] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: can i access my family's computers like this too?
[10:06] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, I think that was meant for n2diy
[10:06] <macogw-is-a-girl> relativeownershi: yeah
[10:06] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello? :)
[10:06] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, If they run linux then yes
[10:07] <Esers> hey, all! Got a question. Is intel 945GM running good on Ubuntu
[10:07] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Or mac, or windows with cygwin installed
[10:07] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: they do. feisty in fact...but they're behind a router.
[10:07] <kraut> moin
[10:07] <n2diy> relativeownershi: yes, now I see that, sorry for the wild goose chase.
[10:07] <macogw-is-a-girl> Dark_Apostrophe: depends on the package.  they do that, but they also patch whatever's busted in sid or change version for those times when sid's instability means things arent working
[10:07] <Dark_Apostrophe> Ah, ok
[10:07] <Dark_Apostrophe> So I was right. :)
[10:07] <macogw-is-a-girl> Dark_Apostrophe: and they add more things if they're wishlisted by users
[10:08] <relativeownershi> n2diy: no problem man. my lappie still can't start X though.
[10:08] <Enselic_> Esers: yes, I do
[10:08] <Dark_Apostrophe> I see. Thanks, macogw-is-a-girl
[10:08] <chohmann> Fezzler: you should take a look at the man page for chmod. It explains that the octal mode code represents.
[10:08] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: well anyway...what next with this xserver thing again?
[10:08] <macogw-is-a-girl> Dark_Apostrophe: bugfixes too, make their own set of defaults like having intel wifi work out of the box which debian makes you download separately....but the repos match pretty well
[10:08] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Now can you pastebin the locate output?
[10:08] <relativeownershi> right right
[10:08] <relativeownershi> yes i can
[10:09] <Enselic_> Esers: or wait, I run 915GM...
[10:09] <n2diy> relativeownershi: now that is a totally different problem, one at a time man, you can't herd cats!
[10:09] <macogw-is-a-girl> Dark_Apostrophe: if you have something you want that isnt in ubuntu's repos and are using the latest ubuntu release, sid binaries usually work
[10:09] <Frogzoo> Dark_Apostrophe: given that ubuntu debs & debian debs are incompatible, you can draw your own conclusions
[10:09] <Dark_Apostrophe> macogw-is-a-girl: Yeah, but compatibility with Debian is *very* limited
[10:09] <Enselic_> Esers: that works great though. look 945GM up in some Linux hardware compaitibility chart to be sure, but I'm pretty confident it works
[10:09] <chohmann> Fezzler: However, i don't think that's your problem. If the mom directory is the same as the dad directory, I would assume something is wrong with the way the dad samba network user was created.
[10:09] <MasterOne_> Nobody here any experience in patching the Ubuntu kernel?
[10:10] <Frogzoo> !kernel | MasterOne_
[10:10] <ubotu> MasterOne_: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:10] <relativeownershi> n2diy: macogw-is-a-girl Jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29070/
[10:10] <macogw-is-a-girl> Esers: thats whats in my laptop. yes it works just dandy. i'm still confused as to how relativeownershi managed to find intel graphics that don't work and arent so new they didnt exist when feisty came out
[10:10] <Frogzoo> MasterOne_: but like it says, you don't need to fiddle with the kernel
[10:10] <n2diy> MasterOne_: try in #ubuntu-kernel?
[10:10] <Jordan_U> MasterOne_, Most people that compile their own kernel use a vanilla kernel and only add what they need
[10:11] <relativeownershi> n2diy: macogw-is-a-girl Jordan_U thats my i810 locate output
[10:11] <cotyrothery> can some please tell me of a video recording app
[10:11] <macogw-is-a-girl> Frogzoo, Dark_Apostrophe :  i think those are version incompatibilities though
[10:11] <Dark_Apostrophe> macogw-is-a-girl: If that were the whole of the incompatibility problems, the software would still work
[10:12] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: if i started x from thsi ssh session would it spawn in my laptop or my desktop?
[10:12] <n2diy> relativeownershi: macogw-is-a-girl, looks clean to me?
[10:12] <macogw-is-a-girl> Frogzoo, Dark_Apostrophe, debian stable or testing would be very much incompatible as the libraries are so old, but sid is usually close, except that a looot of stuff gets ubuntu patches
[10:12] <MasterOne_> Frogzoo: I need to add exactly one patch (hdaps_protect to be able to use the harddisc protection system on my ThinkPad), but I want to keep everything else (kernel-config, kernel-name) as is
[10:12] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, AFIK it wouldn't work, unless you started a screen session from the laptop and connected to it...
[10:12] <Dark_Apostrophe> macogw-is-a-girl: That don't get backported :(
[10:12] <macogw-is-a-girl> Frogzoo, Dark_Apostrophe: i know when i wanted to install frets on fire i could get it from sid's repo and have it work just fine
[10:13] <rmz>  #music
[10:13] <Frogzoo> MasterOne_: grab the config file fro /boot/config-2.6.20-16-generic
[10:13] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, But you don't need to start x to use GUI apps ( I know that you want to start X now but it is nice to know for later ) try just running gedit :)
[10:13] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: i see. anything wrong with my i810 output? does that opening warning message have significance?
[10:13] <Dark_Apostrophe> macogw-is-a-girl: I use Sid, and I've had plenty of Ubuntu packages not work on me
[10:13] <macogw-is-a-girl> Dark_Apostrophe: idk if both directions work
[10:14] <Tzeposul> hahahaa
[10:14] <MasterOne_> Frogzoo: oh, I see, I just need to get the kernel-source (apt-get source linux-source), use the config from /boot, apply my patch, and that's going to be it :-)
[10:14] <macogw-is-a-girl> Dark_Apostrophe: *shrug* i just know that frets on fire works and a few other games one of my friends wanted worked fine too
[10:14] <Frogzoo> MasterOne_: pretty much
[10:14] <Tzeposul> heya all
[10:14] <Dark_Apostrophe> macogw-is-a-girl: Ok
[10:14] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: well gedit doesn't do anything w/o a display set, says "cannot open display" - but anyway, i wanna try to fix this video thing, any other ideas? macogw-is-a-girl? n2diy?
[10:14] <MasterOne_> Frogzoo: cool
[10:14] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, It means that we are looking at what files there were 8+ days ago and not now
[10:14] <Lattyware> Hey all. I have a big problem, when I try and log in, It accepts it, then flashes the screen black, then goes back to the login screen.  Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:17] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: i810fb.ko is the only output
[10:17] <Lattyware> No one have any ideas? Since this has basically left me without any way to log in. (I'm currently at a the command line with irssi)
[10:17] <Jordan_U> n2diy, Because we are dealing with recently changed files
[10:17] <drafael> could someone help me get GRUB to point to /dev/sda3 instead of /dev/sda2 to boot linux [as I have moved the partition where ubuntu was installed] ? ;-;
[10:17] <pacman> I used pico...thank you
[10:17] <Jordan_U> n2diy, This is in references to the i810 module
[10:17] <n2diy> relativeownershi: exactly, shouldn't you update your db to reflect that?
[10:18] <relativeownershi> n2diy: i don't know. how do i update my db?
[10:18] <Lattyware> drafael: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst <- edit that.
[10:19] <Jordan_U> n2diy, well we just checked and found that /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/i810 is not ther but /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/i810fb.ko is
[10:19] <drafael> ok, thanks - but how do I actually edit it if I can't get into ubuntu ? I have the livecd, and I tried mounting /dev/sda3 but it said it wasn't in the fstab/mtab... =/
[10:19] <Shirakawasuna> drafael: sudo mount, even?
[10:19] <drafael> yeah
[10:19] <Lattyware> drafael: OK, you need to mount it, and give what filesystem and stuff.
[10:19] <Jordan_U> n2diy, running updatedb will take a while, is that all you wanted to know about the module?
[10:19] <Shirakawasuna> drafael: sudo mount -t <whatev> /dev/sda3 /mnt/<yourdir>
[10:19] <Lattyware> As it won't be in the fstab.
[10:19] <MenZa> Erm, is it possible to salvage some data removed with rm?
[10:20] <Shirakawasuna> drafael: if it's ext3, say: mkdir /mnt/tmp && sudo mount -t ext3 /mnt/sda3 /mnt/tmp
[10:20] <n2diy> Jordan_U: well yes, does he have it or not?
[10:20] <Shirakawasuna> probably sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp
[10:20] <Jordan_U> n2diy, well we just checked and found that /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/i810 is not ther but /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/i810fb.ko is
[10:20] <Lattyware> and then do sudo gedit /mnt/tmp/boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:20] <Frogzoo> drafael: change groot in /boot/grub/menu.lst then run 'sudo grub-install'
[10:20] <Lattyware> Hey all. Big problem, When I login, the screen flashes, then kicks me back to the login screen.
[10:21] <Shirakawasuna> MenZa: sometimes, although I don't know how.
[10:21] <drafael> ok
[10:21] <drafael> thank you everyone, I will go and try that
[10:21] <Jordan_U> Lattyware, gksudo for GUI apps :)
[10:21] <Jordan_U> !gksudo >
[10:21] <drafael> be back hopefully on ubuntu ^_^"
[10:21] <n2diy> Jordan_U: I said 73 an hour ago, I'm trying to go to bed, good luck.
[10:21] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:21] <Lattyware> Jordan_U: Yeah, I forgot.
[10:21] <Jordan_U> n2diy, Sorry, goodnight
[10:22] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: hrm. next step?
[10:22] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, I don't know :(
[10:22] <n2diy> Jordan_U: nada
[10:23] <Lattyware> Well, in Xorg.0.log, what am I looking for?
[10:23] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, I am an idiot :)
[10:23] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: hrm...what could be causing it to say that the module does not exist?
[10:23] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/i810 was a directory, of course it wasn't a file :)
[10:23] <relativeownershi> n2diy: macogw-is-a-girl either of you have any idea what do to?
[10:23] <Lattyware> There is nothing wrong with my config... There is something about the 'FreeFontPath'
[10:23] <Dark_Apostrophe> macogw-is-a-girl: Tell me, would Ubuntu accept any package that has copyrighted components without a license (for example, a game with artwork without a specified license)?
[10:23] <Lattyware> Which is the only thing that looks different
[10:23] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, So the module does exist and is in the exact same place the old one was :)
[10:23] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: so that's a good thing right?
[10:24] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Yes
[10:24] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: ok. so why does it claim the damn thing's non existant?
[10:24] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Did you ever try a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" ?
[10:24] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, I have no idea.
[10:24] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: yeah, but i'll do it again now.
[10:24] <Dark_Apostrophe> Wuld Ubuntu accept any package that has copyrighted components without a license (for example, a game with artwork without a specified license)?
[10:24] <macogw-is-a-girl> Dark_Apostrophe: maybe in universe
[10:24] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, But it would be interesting to see if it is listed when you reconfigure
[10:25] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: it doesn't give me the i810 as an option in reconfigure
[10:25] <POVaddct> macogw-is-a-girl: rather in multiverse
[10:25] <Lattyware> Shirakawasuna: Is there any chance this could be caused by this 'FreeFontPath' error?
[10:25] <BlackDalek> I need to get video drivers off a CD onto a computer with no internet/network access. I put the CD in the drive, but I can't access the CD or work out how to mount it from the tty terminal. What do I do? I see cdrom and cdrw under /dev and cdrom cdrom0 cdrom1 under /media... but I can't get a directory listing off the CD in the drive.
[10:25] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: think it might be because i installed a module for an older kernel version?
[10:25] <macogw-is-a-girl> POVaddct: oh. whats teh difference again?
[10:25] <Dark_Apostrophe> macogw-is-a-girl: Thanks again :)
[10:25] <Jordan_U> Dark_Apostrophe, No, because they would not know if they were allowed to distribute it ( at least that is my understanding )
[10:25] <macogw-is-a-girl> Dark_Apostrophe: POVaddct says itd be multiverse
[10:25] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: but then again, i compiled the thing, right here....
[10:25] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: if it's (EE), there's a good chance - pastebin the whole Xorg.0.conf somewhere (I prefer phpfi.com)
[10:25] <POVaddct> macogw-is-a-girl: universe is better maintained
[10:26] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, No, you compiled it for your current kernel
[10:26] <POVaddct> macogw-is-a-girl: (i think)
[10:26] <macogw-is-a-girl> POVaddct: hahaha but is there an idiological difference?
[10:26] <POVaddct> macogw-is-a-girl: don't know
[10:26] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: <nods>...argh.
[10:26] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: maybe i outta try recompiling it?
[10:27] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Don't think that would do any good.
[10:27] <askand> I have intel celeron M..should I use 686 kernel?
[10:27] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Was i810 listed?
[10:27] <Lattyware> Shirakawasuna: Problem is, I have no interface, so I'm doing this all from command line (irssi & nano) - can I copy it to pastebin?
[10:27] <Jordan_U> !generic | askand
[10:27] <ubotu> askand: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[10:27] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: on dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg the i810 driver was not listed as an available option.
[10:27] <Lattyware> Shirakawasuna: And It isn't an error, it's a line with no bit to the left of it.
[10:28] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Where did you get the source for the driver?
[10:28] <Flannel> askand: All the kernels have been merged into the -generic kernel.  Optomizations are figured out at boot, instead of compile.
[10:28] <BlackDalek> how do I access a cdrom from the terminal to copy the nvidia video drivers onto the hard drive?
[10:28] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: search for (EE).  Search in nano is ^W
[10:28] <hajiki> how do i make /dev/sg0 (SCSI Generic Device) accessible???? because I dont have the permission to it and some apps need to access it
[10:28] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: from http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/x11/xserver-xorg-video-i810
[10:28] <Shirakawasuna> luckily the next version of Xorg needs less configuring
[10:29] <SirTane> hey guys, real new to linux here
[10:29] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: this file actually http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xserver-xorg-video-i810/xserver-xorg-video-i810_1.6.5.orig.tar.gz
[10:29] <SirTane> is my home folder just my username?
[10:29] <Jordan_U> Black_Monkey, Why not install it from apt, can you not get on the internet?
[10:29] <Holty101> Is it better to use Gnome or KDE??
[10:29] <Flannel> SirTane: ~/ is your home folder, which is /home/username/
[10:29] <Lattyware> Shirakawasuna: No, nothing. Only finds the exampe one at the top.
[10:29] <Lattyware> Holty101: Personal Preference.
[10:29] <Flannel> SirTane: or rather, the other way around.
[10:30] <relativeownershi> Flannel: no i think you got it right the first time for sirtane
[10:30] <Holty101> ok thanks ill try KDE see what its like?
[10:30] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: go to the bottom of it, it should say something relevant :)
[10:30] <Flannel> relativeownershi: no, ~ is an alias to /home/username
[10:30] <SirTane> Flannel: how do i find it?
[10:30] <relativeownershi> sirtane flannel /home/username is right, on my box - oh thats what you meant <nods> yeah, duh
[10:30] <askand> Flannel: oh ok..is that new since feisty?
[10:30] <Flannel> SirTane: either of those will work fine to get to it.
[10:30] <Flannel> askand: uh, Edgy I believe.
[10:31] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: alternatively you can do sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak and reinstall whatever package configures xorg
[10:31] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: do those seem like reputable sources for the code?
[10:31] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Yes
[10:31] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: well obviously they are...argh! can't imagine why the system doesn't the the module
[10:31] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: I'm not sure what it is as I actually am not using ubuntu atm :)
[10:31] <Flannel> SirTane: cd /home/ cd username, or cd /home/username/ or cd ~
[10:31] <Lattyware> The only thing is this error: FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1, fixing.
[10:31] <SirTane> Flannel: in ubuntu?
[10:31] <Lattyware> Well, not error.
[10:31] <Lattyware> But line at the bottom.
[10:32] <Plantain> Can anyone suggest why my ProFTPd performance is abysmal?
[10:32] <Flannel> SirTane: Aye.  Or if you're using nautilus, I think the places menu has a pre-fab home folder location.  Or you can go filesystem  and then browse to /home and then username directory within tht
[10:32] <Lattyware> Shirakawasuna: Yeah... It seems odd though, since I didn't edit Xorg.conf or update Xorg.
[10:32] <Plantain> I get <50kB/s
[10:32] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: see the weird thing is that it doesn't work quite right with vesa either, i still have to rotate the output to bring it back to my lcd
[10:32] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Just as a random stab in the dark, move your xorg.conf ( so X won't use it ) then try starting X without it
[10:32] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: hmm
[10:33] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: that font thing usually wouldn't kill xorg although something similar happened to me once...
[10:33] <Frogzoo> Jordan_U: x won't start without xorg.conf
[10:33] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: there's nothing at the bottom of it, though?
[10:33] <Jordan_U> Frogzoo, Want to bet ? :)
[10:33] <SirTane> k, and how can i search for all files which are a .map extention?
[10:33] <Lattyware> That's the last thing.
[10:33] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: same issue
[10:33] <Lattyware> The only thing after the config stuff
[10:33] <yildiz> hallo alle
[10:33] <Frogzoo> SirTane: locate '*.map'
[10:33] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: well a different versio nof the same issue. the screen locks up differently.
[10:33] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: maybe that's it, then... delete one of its references in the xorg.conf (comment it out, actually)
[10:34] <SirTane> Frogzoo: where do i type that?  -.-
[10:34] <yildiz> spricht hier einer deutsch
[10:34] <POVaddct> !de | yildiz
[10:34] <Jordan_U> !de | yildiz
[10:34] <ubotu> yildiz: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:34] <Lattyware> Shirakawasuna: OK. I'll give it a shot.
[10:34] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: and now its totally effed, as in Frozen. fun fun. not even alt sysrq k is stopping it.
[10:34] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, what about ssh?
[10:34] <relativeownershi> Random Stub In The Dark rsitk
[10:34] <relativeownershi> rsitd
[10:35] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: alternatively, sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak && sudo X -configure (you may not need the second sudo)
[10:35] <BFTD> Error: Could not read from socket: Connection reset by peer, I get that error when I try to FTP into a web server
[10:35] <relativeownershi> ssh...forgot about it Jordan_U
[10:35] <BFTD> what is it and how do  ifix it?
[10:35] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: that will generate a new xorg.conf that might work better
[10:35] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: its reboooting, just a few seconds...
[10:35] <askand> whats Folding@Home ?
[10:35] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Well that's no fun :)
[10:35] <SirTane> where do i type the "locate" command?
[10:35] <Mithra> thats a playstation thing isnt it askand?
[10:36] <askand>  Mithra: dont know really..
[10:36] <SirTane> man linux sucks.  on windows it's so much easier to search for files
[10:36] <SirTane> i don't even know where to type "locate", i think i'll just reboot into ME
[10:36] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: i'm trying to log back in
[10:36] <BFTD> Sir_Brizz get catfish
[10:36] <CowoK_GokiL> hiiiiiiiiiiiii
[10:36] <sotlef_> it's possible to change `display' for launched application?
[10:36] <Fujitsu> sotlef_: What do you mean by `display'?
[10:37] <Lattyware> Shirakawasuna: OK, just tried commenting the only thing on fonts in the file, and that did nothing. I noticed it has a load of stuff about /dev/null: permission denied
[10:37] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: whats the command again to log in by ssh
[10:37] <Lattyware> though
[10:37] <sotlef_> $DISPLAY
[10:37] <relativeownershi> ssh -X username@ip address
[10:37] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[10:37] <Mithra> I was wondering, do many programs not designed for Linux work in it with the proper programs?
[10:37] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Yes
[10:37] <relativeownershi> ssh -X username@ip address Jordan_U
[10:37] <n2diy> askand: the equivilant of SETI, for medical research.
[10:37] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: that might be it.  See if you still have problems after my X -configure advice
[10:37] <Fujitsu> sotlef_: Not really. xmove can act as a proxy so you can migrate things between displays, though.
[10:37] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: do i have to sudo it?
[10:37] <Lattyware> ok
[10:37] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, No
[10:38] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: wtf its telling me connection refused now
[10:38] <yildiz> hallo
[10:38] <yildiz> trkce konusan varmi
[10:38] <macogw-is-a-girl> Mithra: some...check winehq's db and cedega and codeweavers' crossover office for listings
[10:38] <yildiz> merhaba arkadaslar
[10:38] <SirTane> is there a way to hide/unhide folders?
[10:38] <Mithra> macogw: thanks, Ill do that :)
[10:39] <Shirakawasuna> Fujitsu: seems you need a challenge - install ubuntu on my computer without me noticing ;)
[10:39] <Fujitsu> !tr
[10:39] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[10:39] <SirTane>  is there a way to hide/unhide folders?
[10:39] <Fujitsu> SirTane: The UNIX way to do that is to stick a . in front of the name.
[10:39] <POVaddct> yildiz: there are both turkish and german ubuntu channels
[10:39] <SirTane> Fujitsu: how do i unhide a folder?
[10:39] <sotlef_> Fujitsu: where i can to find command xmove? (which package)
[10:39] <Jordan_U> Shirakawasuna, with wubi that is possible :)
[10:39] <yildiz> merhaba ubotu
[10:39] <Fujitsu> SirTane: Take the . out.
[10:39] <Fujitsu> !find xmove
[10:39] <ubotu> Found: xmove
[10:40] <Fujitsu> sotlef_: In the xmove package.
[10:40] <POVaddct> yildiz: ubotu is a bot :)
[10:40] <SirTane> Fujitsu: i don't see a . because I DON'T SEE THE FOLDER =D
[10:40] <Fujitsu> SirTane: Ah, press Ctrl+H
[10:40] <Fujitsu> !de
[10:40] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:40] <macogw-is-a-girl> SirTane: in nautilus, ctrl+h, in the terminal "ls -a"
[10:40] <n2diy> POVaddct: menu > view > hidden files?
[10:41] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fujitsu: will the file automatically turn hidden if i rename to .whatever or is there another step? is it impossible to have a dot file thats not hidden?
[10:41] <n2diy> SirTane: menu > view > hidden files?
[10:41] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, I don't know why the connection would be refused, but at least that proves that the OS is still running :)
[10:41] <Fujitsu> macogw-is-a-girl: The . is what makes it hidden.
[10:41] <anandanbu> How do i create new entries in the sessions and even if i create it that goes off after i restart the system in Ubuntu 7.04
[10:42] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, What happened with the "intel" driver ( not i810 ) ?
[10:42] <Lattyware> Shirakawasuna: Now I get an error saying it cannot move the log file.
[10:42] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fujitsu: ok.  i noticed the pattern but wasnt sure if it's a requirement
[10:43] <anandanbu> Help needed in creating new entries in the sessions in Ubuntu 7.04
[10:43] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: did you use sudo?
[10:43] <Lattyware> Shirakawasuna: Ah, no
[10:43] <Jordan_U> macogw-is-a-girl, Yes, there is no "hidden bit" in Unix file systems, so it  is more just a convention that most apps follow to hide .files
[10:45] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: is there any way to roll my whole distribution back to 6.1?
[10:45] <Fujitsu> relativeownershi: You cannot downgrade, no.
[10:45] <Fujitsu> relativeownershi: What issues are you having with 7.04?
[10:45] <Mithra> does anyone know of any software that enables you to create partitions of a windows hard drive?
[10:45] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Noish
[10:45] <uberushaximus> relativeownershi: well you could copy /home and then reinstall
[10:45] <Enselic_> relativeownershi: 6.10    (6.1 would have to be released in January)
[10:45] <Lattyware> Shirakawasuna: Nope, even with the new config, it still flashes then pulls back to the login.
[10:46] <Jordan_U> Fujitsu, Intel GFX drivers aren't working
[10:46] <gnomefreak> Enselic_: october you missed the 0 its 6.10
[10:46] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: might be that /dev/null thing
[10:46] <Fujitsu> relativeownershi: Which chipset is it using, and what error does it give?
[10:46] <Lattyware> Shirakawasuna: Yeah. This is beyond annoying.
[10:46] <Enselic_> gnomefreak: that's what I said...
[10:46] <Fujitsu> Mithra: You could use gparted.
[10:47] <gnomefreak> Enselic_: you said 6.1 must been released in janruary
[10:47] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: I can guess.  I'd try changing perms on /dev/null
[10:47] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: chmod +s /dev/null
[10:47] <Lattyware> Shirakawasuna: ok.
[10:47] <Enselic_> gnomefreak: yes, and if there was 6.1, it would must have been
[10:47] <xif> Anyone knows how to clear the DNS cache in Feisty?
[10:47] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: err, tack sudo on the front of that, sorry
[10:47] <gnomefreak> Enselic_: right
[10:47] <Enselic_> gnomefreak: my point was that there is no 6.1
[10:47] <anandanbu> Is there a way to add new entries to the gnome sessions in Ubuntu 7.04
[10:47] <gnomefreak> it might have been 6.01 for jan
[10:47] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fujitsu: i830, no real error, black screen, white fragments, compiling old (edgy) i830 driver for feisty works but xserver cant find it
[10:48] <Enselic_> gnomefreak: yes, that's true, good point
[10:48] <Jordan_U> anandanbu, New entries like applications to run at login?
[10:48] <Lattyware> Shirakawasuna: Yeah. Didn't work. Still doing it :/
[10:48] <Mithra> Fujitsu: ooh, looks good
[10:48] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: bah.  ls -l /dev | grep null
[10:48] <gnomefreak> anandanbu: system>prefferences>sessions
[10:48] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: what does it say?
[10:49] <wavez> I'm having trouble getting ubuntu to boot with PXE
[10:49] <anandanbu> Jordan_U: After creating the new entries it doesn't show up after i restart the system
[10:49] <anandanbu> gnomefreak: After creating the new entries it doesn't show up after i restart the system for the apps like compiz and screenlets
[10:49] <Lattyware> crwS--S--- 1 root   root 1 3 2007-04-14 07:52 null
[10:49] <Fujitsu> wavez: What's it (not) doing?
[10:49] <gnomefreak> anandanbu: that sounds like a bug
[10:49] <wavez> we're trying to boot without a hard drive
[10:50] <gnomefreak> anandanbu: or you are using wrong name for app
[10:50] <Xianth> hey hey
[10:50] <Frogzoo> !pxe | wavez
[10:50] <wavez> ubuntu wants to format the hard drive, even though there isn't one
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pxe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <Jordan_U> Fujitsu, Do you know why X would claim that the i810 module did not exist when we compiled it from source and can modprobe it successfully?
[10:50] <Lattyware> Shirakawasuna: crwS--S--- 1 root   root 1 3 2007-04-14 07:52 null
[10:50] <Fujitsu> Lattyware: sudo chmod 666 /dev/null
[10:50] <relativeownershi> Fujitsu: no distinct error messages because x just blank-screens after loading screen, but the video card in question is an Intel Corporation 82830 CGC
[10:51] <relativeownershi> Fujitsu: as per lspci
[10:51] <Fujitsu> relativeownershi: Have you tried the VESA driver rather than i810?
[10:51] <anandanbu> gnomefreak: no im using the correct app names for the compiz and screenlets as in a tutorial
[10:51] <macogw-is-a-girl> waves, if theres no hard drive, how are you installing?
[10:51] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: yeah, what Fujitsu said
[10:51] <Xianth> hey, I know this may be quite complicated, but can anyone tell me an advantage of Linux?  People say that it is more 'free' but in what way?
[10:51] <macogw-is-a-girl> waves, nevermind, pxe
[10:51] <Fujitsu> Jordan_U: Ubuntu 7.04 has X.org 7.2, while 6.10 has 7.1. The modules won't be compatible.
[10:51] <macogw-is-a-girl> Xianth: stable, virus-free
[10:51] <Jordan_U> Fujitsu, Ahh, of course
[10:52] <Frogzoo> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 2007-05-17 09:39 /dev/null
[10:52] <macogw-is-a-girl> Xianth: educational if you want to learn to program since you can look at all the source code
[10:52] <Fujitsu> Xianth: It's free as in no cost, and free as in you can modify and distribute it arbitrarily.
[10:52] <Lattyware> ShinSR71: No, didn't do anthing again
[10:52] <wavez> macogw-is-a-girl, it's a boot image stored on a tftp server
[10:52] <relativeownershi> Fujitsu: yes thats what i'm using now. but its a pain, i can only start it from recovery mode, and i still have to cycle my display from ext to int using the keyboard commands. plus desktop effects are broken now, whereas in 6.1 they were working fine
[10:52] <Fujitsu> Lattyware: What is the error you're getting?
[10:52] <gnomefreak> anandanbu: i added command for irssi to start when i log in on my feisty laptop and it works fine
[10:52] <Fujitsu> relativeownershi: What kind of laptop/motherboard is it?
[10:52] <Shirakawasuna> how much of a rolling-release distro is ubuntu/can it easily be?  I like archlinux but am intrigued by ubuntu.
[10:52] <jeremysan> Hi all, can somebody help me make my Totem Movie player DVD-capable?
[10:52] <Frogzoo> wavez: you tried tftp access yourself? to check perms?
[10:53] <macogw-is-a-girl> !libdvdcss | jeremysan
[10:53] <ubotu> jeremysan: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:53] <Lattyware> I'm not. I log in into the log in screen, and it flashes black, and kicks me back to the login screen.
[10:53] <wavez> the image is booting fine and I get past most of the installation
[10:53] <zoidberg_> guys is there an flv player that i can use to watch flv vids not in a webbrowser?
[10:53] <relativeownershi> Fujitsu: its an HP Pavilian N5495. what information about the motherboard do you want?
[10:53] <Fujitsu> Shirakawasuna: There is the mythical Ubuntu Grumpy Groundhog which will probably eventually be an eternally-unstable distro. There's no plan for a Gentoo-like attempt at stable rolling-release.
[10:53] <wavez> it even asks me for a hard drive driver and allows me to select "no hard drive" or something like that
[10:53] <Fujitsu> relativeownershi: Around how old?
[10:53] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, Find a distro that uses xorg 7.2 and works with your card and either install it or grab its source :)
[10:53] <icecrash2k> hello @ all
[10:53] <wavez> but it wwants me to partiotion the hard disk
[10:54] <Fujitsu> relativeownershi: And are you using -i810 or -intel?
[10:54] <Shirakawasuna> Fujitsu: aww, ok.  Thanks.
[10:54] <macogw-is-a-girl> zoidberg_: totem can play flv
[10:54] <Jordan_U> Fujitsu, Neither worked for him in Feisty
[10:54] <Fujitsu> Shirakawasuna: We don't really have the resources to do anything more than we do now.
[10:54] <Fujitsu> Jordan_U: Hm... That /is/ odd.
[10:54] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fujitsu: i explain GG as "the ubuntu version of Sid"
[10:55] <uberushaximus> <3 GG
[10:55] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: looks like i'm going to have to roll back to 6.1. i read somewhere that the gutsy intel drivers are updated to fix this problem...i'll try tribe2 now
[10:55] <Fujitsu> macogw-is-a-girl: It's a bit like that, I guess.
[10:55] <Jordan_U> Fujitsu, maybe it is a problem with Xorg 7.2 ?
[10:55] <Fujitsu> macogw-is-a-girl: Although GG is ambiguous these days.
[10:55] <relativeownershi> Fujitsu: i've trie dboht 810 and intel
[10:55] <Fujitsu> Jordan_U: Unlikely.
[10:55] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fujitsu: if it existed, that is
[10:55] <Shirakawasuna> Fujitsu: I understand.  It seemed like there were some non-patch updates when I installed Feisty, though.  Like for the gimp.
[10:55] <relativeownershi> Fujitsu: the laptop is about 4 to 5 years old, i think. maybe older.
[10:55] <Lattyware> Fujitsu: I don't get an error, it just flashes after I login and kicks me back to the login.
[10:55] <Fujitsu> Shirakawasuna: Only security updates for GIMP so far.
[10:55] <Shirakawasuna> ah, k
[10:55] <Jordan_U> Fujitsu, It is strange that both i810 and intel would be broken though
[10:55] <relativeownershi> 1.06 ghz piii, 512mb pc133 ram, 16mb intel graphics controller Fujitsu
[10:56] <Lattyware> If I do startx, I get the nvidia logo from the driver, then it flashes black, and I get hit back to the command line.
[10:56] <Shirakawasuna> Fujitsu: I've never used a non-rolling-release distro, how easy are the six month updates?
[10:56] <Fujitsu> Lattyware: Do you have sufficient disk space? Is ~/.xsession-errors having the correct permissions?
[10:56] <Fujitsu> Shirakawasuna: They should generally be completely painless, though some people using lots of third-party repositories had some issues upgrading to Edgy.
[10:56] <Lattyware> Fujitsu: I have like 200GB of disk space, no idea about .xsession-errors.
[10:56] <Fujitsu> Using tools like Automatix is a good way to break updates.
[10:57] <Lattyware> Shirakawasuna: Thanks for all the help you gave me, by the way.
[10:57] <Fujitsu> Lattyware: You might want to check the permissions on that.
[10:57] <Lattyware> ok
[10:57] <Fujitsu> Lattyware: Also, checking /var/log/Xorg* might be useful.
[10:57] <Shirakawasuna> Lattyware: np :)
[10:57] <relativeownershi> Jordan_U: i appreciate all your input. wish me luck on reinstallation! peace out
[10:57] <relativeownershi> Fujitsu: later man
[10:57] <relativeownershi> exit
[10:57] <xoqa> anyone familiar with dwm? i'm trying to replace the text "EOF" (whatever that stands for) on the top-right of the screen with the date. there's a tutorial at http://www.xsnake.net/howto/dwm/dwm-eng.php but i had not luck.
[10:58] <Jordan_U> relativeownershi, np
[10:58] <Shirakawasuna> Fujitsu: cool, thanks
[10:58] <Lattyware> Fujitsu: Allready went through the logs with Shirakawasuna, nothing there.
[10:58] <wavez> is it possible to boot ubuntu on a discless machine?
[10:58] <macogw-is-a-girl> Shirakawasuna: you type this( sudo "update-manager -c" ) then the update manager shows up and says a new one's available and do you want it, tell it yes, and an hour later (depending on how heavily the servers are being hit....wait like 4 days after release and itll be like an hour) 5 hours later itll be done completely automated.  at one point itll ask "do you want to delete old configs and replace them with ones for the new ve
[10:58] <macogw-is-a-girl> u say yes
[10:58] <Fujitsu> Lattyware: Checked the content/permissions of ~/.xsession-errors?
[10:58] <Shirakawasuna> macogw-is-a-girl: cool
[10:59] <Fujitsu> wavez: It is, yes. Edubuntu does that by default, and the ltsp-server package does most of the work for you in Ubuntu.
[10:59] <xif> nobody knows where I can clear my DNS cache?
[10:59] <Shirakawasuna> the only third party repo I'd imagine myself using is kde 4 once it reaches 4.0.1
[10:59] <Lattyware> Fujitsu: on ./xsession-errors it's -rw-------
[10:59] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fujitsu: the edgy upgrade problem wasnt just repos.  there was actually something wrong i believe, and most of the breaks were caused by "sudo dist-upgrade" since it doesnt do the extra checks that update-manager does
[10:59] <xif> (This is feisty)
[10:59] <Fujitsu> Lattyware: Which user owns it?
[10:59] <Lattyware> Fujitsu: My user (gareth), and gareth as group
[10:59] <Jordan_U> Shirakawasuna, That will likely be in backports, and that is pretty safe to have
[10:59] <Fujitsu> macogw-is-a-girl: No, it was mostly external repos. We test upgrades a fair bit.
[10:59] <Fujitsu> Lattyware: Hm, no idea then.
[11:00] <Lattyware> Fujitsu: Thanks for the attempt. This is annoying as hell.
[11:00] <Xianth> what do you guys reckon the best looking/easiest to use linux UI is? :)
[11:00] <vip3rousmango> I have a .bin/.cue KVCD that I want to watch, what can I use to open/convert the .bin to something ubuntu reconizes?
[11:00] <Shirakawasuna> Jordan_U: very cool.
[11:00] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fujitsu: well my problem was trying to upgrade from the alternate cd offline.  it went to hell and became half-dapper and half-edgy.  someone who works on Kubuntu told me it was the graphical upgrader v. command line one
[11:00] <Lattyware> I'm gonna try another reboot, just on the off chance it is something odd that wasn't fixed the last time I rebooted :/
[11:00] <gnomefreak> macogw-is-a-girl: update-manager only checks and tries to fix 3rd party packages
[11:01] <gnomefreak> thats all it does that apt doesnt do
[11:01] <macogw-is-a-girl> gnomefreak: ah ok
[11:01] <Shirakawasuna> Jordan_U: how easy is it to contribute back to the community?  For instance, some of the games in the repos have non-ideal configurations and I've noticed an issue with acpi and networking.
[11:01] <Fujitsu> macogw-is-a-girl: The graphical upgrader doesn't do too much extra stuff. Mostly just checking that (k,x)ubuntu-desktop is installed, and trying it a few times if it fails.
[11:01] <macogw-is-a-girl> Shirakawasuna: launchpad.net is the central spot for coordinating everything
[11:01] <Jordan_U> Shirakawasuna, launchpad is very nice
[11:01] <Jordan_U> !bugs | Shirakawasuna
[11:01] <ubotu> Shirakawasuna: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:01] <Shirakawasuna> cool, I think I'm almost hooked, thanks for all the random questions :)
[11:01] <Shirakawasuna> *answering them
[11:02] <vip3rousmango> I have a .bin/.cue KVCD that I want to watch, what can I use to open/convert the .bin to something ubuntu reconizes?
[11:02] <unagi> so the desktop effects in ubuntu is really compiz right?
[11:02] <macogw-is-a-girl> unagi: right
[11:03] <vip3rousmango> formally compiz, now beryl
[11:03] <macogw-is-a-girl> vip3rousmango: what? the installed by default one is compiz
[11:03] <macogw-is-a-girl> vip3rousmango: a lot of people just happen to install beryl and use it intead
[11:03] <Jordan_U> vip3rousmango, bchunk
[11:03] <Sonicadvance1> hm?
[11:03] <vip3rousmango> ahh
[11:03] <unagi> so there should be customizable settings correct macogw?
[11:03] <macogw-is-a-girl> unagi: if you install gnome-compiz-manager, yes
[11:03] <Sonicadvance1> Beryl is faster than the included Compiz in ubuntu isn't it?
[11:03] <unagi> ty
[11:03] <vip3rousmango> Jordan_U: bchuck can convert .bin to .iso?
[11:03] <wavez> thanks guys. tc.
[11:03] <MenZa> No, but it's more feature-rich, Sonicadvance1
[11:04] <unagi> bj84621
[11:04] <macogw-is-a-girl> Sonicadvance1: ive heard compiz is faster, but beryl has a lot more plugins which makes it cooler..ex: burning windows
[11:04] <MenZa> Yes, just wait for Compiz Fusion
[11:04] <MenZa> The merged product of Beryl and Compiz.
[11:04] <macogw-is-a-girl> cube reflection
[11:04] <Jordan_U> vip3rousmango, I believe so, I just did "apt-cache search .cue iso"
[11:04] <MenZa> It's slightly unstable right now
[11:04] <macogw-is-a-girl> and fire writing!
[11:04] <vip3rousmango> Jordan_U: meaning... (kinda new)
[11:04] <Frogzoo> vip3rousmango: mdf2iso then burn the iso if you like
[11:05] <vip3rousmango> Frogzoo: can i apt-get mdf2iso?
[11:05] <Jordan_U> vip3rousmango, I just did a quick keyword search for packages
[11:05] <vip3rousmango> Jordan_U: ahh ok.
[11:05] <Frogzoo> vip3rousmango: yep
[11:07] <unagi> thank u so much macogw that sorta fixed my problem
[11:07] <unagi> apparently compiz doesnt support zooming out the cube
[11:07] <Jordan_U> unagi, I believe it does
[11:07] <SirTane> hi my friend wants to try ubuntu but he doesn't have a cd drive and wants to dual boot with xp too
[11:07] <unagi> i dont see the option
[11:08] <Jordan_U> unagi, Desktop Effects is just Ubuntu's dumbed down panel, install gnome-compiz-manager for full preferences
[11:08] <macogw-is-a-girl> SirTane: got a usb cd drive?
[11:08] <FrankTM> SirTane: how did he install windows
[11:08] <teKnofreak> any idea how to remove GNOME desktop, i have KDE installed (as in kubuntu-desktop)
[11:08] <unagi> i mean i dont see it in the manager
[11:08] <SirTane> macogw-is-a-girl: i doubt it
[11:08] <macogw-is-a-girl> SirTane: you can install it on a usb thumb drive too....
[11:09] <macogw-is-a-girl> SirTane: i dont know how though, so google it
[11:09] <Jordan_U> !install | SirTane
[11:09] <ubotu> SirTane: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:09] <Jordan_U> !wubi | SirTane
[11:09] <ubotu> SirTane: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[11:10] <Jordan_U> SirTane, wubi doesn't require external media or repartitioning but is still Beta
[11:10] <SirTane> ubotu: is the guide available in spanish or portuguese please?
[11:10] <Shirakawasuna> ooh, wubi is snazzy
[11:10] <SirTane> oh he is a bot...
[11:10] <vip3rousmango> ok I apt-get bchuck, but i can't run it or open the .bin/.cue still.
[11:11] <gnomefreak> SirTane: #ubuntu-es might have one in spanish
[11:11] <Jordan_U> SirTane, Many guides are, I don't know about that one specifically though
[11:11] <|Cordyce|> can someone help me install tftp on ubuntu
[11:11] <Jordan_U> SirTane, All of the official documentation is but not everything from the wiki
[11:11] <|Cordyce|> ive apt installed it and ran inetd. scripts and its not showing up in ps
[11:12] <SirTane> =( ok
[11:12] <|Cordyce|> tftpd and tftp
[11:12] <|Cordyce|> not using inetd
[11:13] <preaction> |Cordyce|: uhm. if you're using it under inetd, you don't see it in ps, since inetd runs the proper server when necessary and then closes the server
[11:13] <|Cordyce|> IM NOT
[11:13] <|Cordyce|> [05:12:18]  <|Cordyce|> not using inetd
[11:13] <|Cordyce|> how did you miss that
[11:14] <preaction> |Cordyce|: ive apt installed it and ran inetd. <- how did i not miss that?
[11:14] <primski> hello, how do i mount swap partition ?
[11:14] <|Cordyce|> init.d is what i meant
[11:14] <preaction> |Cordyce|: why don't you learn how to treat people better before asking for help?
[11:14] <|Cordyce|> :-D
[11:14] <jetscreamer> swapon -a should work primski
[11:14] <jetscreamer> swapon -s to see
[11:14] <|Cordyce|> anyway ya got any ideas?
[11:14] <jetscreamer> -a will mount all swap in fstab
[11:15] <jetscreamer> heh 'mount'
[11:15] <|Cordyce|> mount
[11:15] <primski> jetscreaer, kk will try
[11:16] <|Cordyce|> can anyone help me wit tftp
[11:16] <Sonicadvance1> New Jersey
[11:16] <|Cordyce|> ???
[11:16] <Sonicadvance1> oh, woops
[11:16] <Sonicadvance1> Anyway, what do you need help with?
[11:16] <jetscreamer> is there a #tftp ?
[11:16] <|Cordyce|> ah nice to see
[11:16] <unagi> wow
[11:16] <|Cordyce|> ive apt installed it and ran init.d scripts and its not showing up in ps
[11:16] <unagi> i messed up my firefox.....the text is HUGE!
[11:17] <jetscreamer> fix it
[11:17] <Fujitsu> |Cordyce|: Try tftpd-hpa. I've had success with that.
[11:17] <fritz> someone please help. i messed around with my fstab ...is there some command for konsole to rewrite it correctly,,,cause i deleted some partitoisn from there that weren't working and now i can't even try to mount them again...i'm on kubuntu 7.04 but they sent me here because they dont know
[11:17] <gnomefreak> unagi: what did you do?
[11:17] <preaction> fritz: did you keep a backup?
[11:17] <Sonicadvance1> unagi, while in firefox, try pressing CTRL+0
[11:17] <unagi> lol alt and the wheel portion of my pad
[11:17] <fritz> don't think so
[11:17] <gnomefreak> unagi: you can change it in prefferences or restart firefox if you used cntl+
[11:17] <fritz> i made a back-up a couple of days ago
[11:18] <unagi> ty Sonicavancel
[11:18] <fritz> but it won't show up on search
[11:18] <Fujitsu> fritz: Restore that backup?
[11:18] <Fujitsu> fritz: Ah.
[11:18] <|Cordyce|> so fujitsu how did you configre your daemon
[11:18] <unagi> that was silly
[11:18] <|Cordyce|> im doing tftpd
[11:18] <|Cordyce|> did u configure it even
[11:18] <Fujitsu> fritz: Can you pastebin the output of `sudo fdisk -l' and /etc/fstab?
[11:18] <unagi> im dling mandriva
[11:18] <test123> my 7.04 freeze in couple of minutes what best thing to do ?
[11:18] <fritz> how do i pastebin?
[11:19] <unagi> fritz !pastebin
[11:19] <Fujitsu> !pastebin | fritz
[11:19] <ubotu> fritz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:19] <|Cordyce|> Futistu: did you have to config anything?
[11:19] <Fujitsu> |Cordyce|: I don't think so, but it was a while ago.
[11:19] <unagi> whats the best way to partition a linux partition for another version of linux
[11:19] <Lattyware> It worked after two reboots, the second of which being a disk check on my root partition, so I recon that had something to do with it.
[11:19] <Lattyware> Thanks to those who tried to help me.
[11:20] <Jordan_U> unagi, gparted?
[11:20] <|Cordyce|> is there anything that you can think of why my tftpd doesnt show up in ps aux when i run it from wherever it is found
[11:20] <gnomefreak> unagi: your installing mandriva try their channel
[11:20] <unagi> i installed it....it scares me
[11:20] <gnomefreak> unagi: it has its  own partitioner
[11:20] <primski> damn my system is slow without swap...every command takes like a minute :s
[11:20] <gnomefreak> some form of parted
[11:20] <|Cordyce|> you know whats funny
[11:20] <|Cordyce|> ibm actually has great linux resources
[11:21] <Hitomaro> how do I install windows on ubuntu?
[11:21] <|Cordyce|> LOL
[11:21] <Jordan_U> Lattyware, For future reference you can run: "sudo touch /forcefsck" to force an fsck on next boot
[11:21] <unagi> does mandriva have a channel?
[11:21] <Hitomaro> I have the windows cd in
[11:21] <primski> heh
[11:21] <fritz> 1
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Hitomaro: are you trying to wipe ubuntu off your drive?
[11:21] <|Cordyce|> so ya
[11:21] <|Cordyce|> tftp
[11:21] <fritz>  2
[11:21] <Fujitsu> You could install vmware-server
[11:21] <fritz>  3
[11:21] <Hitomaro> yes gnomefreak
[11:21] <Jordan_U> Hitomaro, Install vmware
[11:21] <fritz>  4
[11:21] <Lattyware> Jordan_U: Yeah, thanks.
[11:21] <Fujitsu> Hitomaro: Ah. Reboot.
[11:21] <fritz>  5
[11:21] <unagi> why would u want to do that
[11:21] <unagi> UBUNTU ROCKS!
[11:21] <fritz>  6
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Hitomaro: install windows than join ##windows for more help
[11:21] <fritz>  7
[11:21] <|Cordyce|> tftpd isnt showing up when i run it!
[11:21] <fritz>  8
[11:21] <vip3rousmango> #windows
[11:21] <|Cordyce|> why could it be?
[11:21] <Bogaurd_> does the ubuntu /etc/motd get generated on every boot or something?
[11:22] <Hitomaro> gnomefreak, how do I install without deleting linux?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Hitomaro: you make another partition
[11:22] <unagi> Hitomaro partition your hard drive
[11:22] <|Cordyce|> gnomefreak can u answer a question
[11:22] <Fujitsu> Hitomaro: You'll need to use gparted to shrink the Ubuntu partition.
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Hitomaro: the cd should help you with that
[11:22] <unagi> Hitomaro shrink your ntfs file system to give you as much space as you want
[11:22] <Hitomaro> ok
[11:22] <gnomefreak> |Cordyce|: not your question
[11:22] <|Cordyce|> why?
[11:23] <teKnofreak> hi all, i have kubuntu-desktop installed over ubuntu, now how do i remove gnome ?
[11:23] <Hitomaro> so how would I do that?
[11:23] <|Cordyce|> why?
[11:23] <Hitomaro> download what?
[11:23] <Fujitsu> teKnofreak: It's not easy. You could try removing some GTK libraries.
[11:23] <unagi> sudo aptitude install gparted
[11:23] <bobsomebody> how do you block IP's? should it be done on the firewall (IPTABLES) or it there somewhere else I can define ip's to ban without having to rewrite my IPTABLES rules
[11:23] <|Cordyce|> ??
[11:23] <Hitomaro> ok thanks
[11:23] <unagi> hitomaro
[11:23] <unagi> npo
[11:23] <Flannel> teKnofreak: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[11:23] <|Cordyce|> tftpd isnt showing up when i run it
[11:23] <|Cordyce|> is that offensive?
[11:23] <Fujitsu> bobsomebody: iptables is your best bet.
[11:23] <gnomefreak> |Cordyce|: your attitude for one reason. second im not really sure what you are asking
[11:23] <|Cordyce|> my attitude duh
[11:23] <Flannel> teKnofreak: that's basically someone who's compiled a list of all the stuff ubuntu-desktop installs
[11:23] <bobsomebody> Fujitsu, cool
[11:23] <teKnofreak> my problem is, gnome desktop has fcked up, i get a blank desktop with no icons and can't get the right click menu
[11:24] <|Cordyce|> your refusing to answer my question might be part of that
[11:24] <|Cordyce|> my question is why could the tftpd not be apearing in the ps list
[11:24] <Fujitsu> |Cordyce|: Perhaps it's because we don't know.
[11:24] <|Cordyce|> who would
[11:24] <bobsomebody> anyone know a good apache exploit i can use on this fucker thats been trying to hax me all day?
[11:24] <teKnofreak> neither i can open anything in nautilus, tried install gnome, metacity and nautilus, no use
[11:24] <gnomefreak> |Cordyce|: you jumped down someones throat becuase you typoed
[11:24] <bobsomebody> or any ideas what I can do to have fun with him?
[11:24] <Sonicadvance1> o_O
[11:24] <gnomefreak> bobsomebody: watch your language
[11:24] <Fujitsu> bobsomebody: Don't talk about that sort of stuff, and watch your language.
[11:24] <bobsomebody> oh sorry
[11:24] <Jordan_U> bobsomebody, Install a honey pot
[11:24] <|Cordyce|> sounds like you are trying to justify your unfitting remark gnomefreak
[11:25] <bobsomebody> lol, it is a honey pot already
[11:25] <gnomefreak> !attitude | |Cordyce|
[11:25] <ubotu> |Cordyce|: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:25] <Hitomaro> umm what do I do now?
[11:25] <preaction> bobsomebody: realize too that it's probably an ssh bot from a compromised system
[11:25] <Hitomaro> I installed sudo aptitude install gparted
[11:25] <use> hello.
[11:25] <teKnofreak> Flannel, thanks will check that link :)
[11:25] <|Cordyce|> k im out your a turd
[11:25] <bobsomebody> preaction, thus would explain the slow port scan
[11:25] <bobsomebody> not just ssh tho, alot of diff ones
[11:25] <use> i was installing Vmware from adept manager but it didn't go correctly when i open adept its in view only mode how can i fix it?
[11:25] <unagi> im so happy i got avant window navigator working
[11:25] <unagi> im running out of things to complain about
[11:25] <Flannel> teKnofreak: you'll want to add --purge to that, most likely.  'sudo apt-get remove --purge [long list of stuff] '
[11:26] <unagi> unless someone wants to tell me how to get my laptops webcam working
[11:26] <bobsomebody> unagi, windows is still around
[11:26] <Jake> ih
[11:26] <bobsomebody> ih
[11:26] <Hitomaro> hello?
[11:26] <unagi> what is ih?
[11:26] <Jordan_U> use, How did you open it? You need to use kdesudo / gksudo if you run it from a terminal
[11:26] <Jake> typo...sorry
[11:26] <unagi> 2 people said ih lol
[11:27] <use> Jordan_U; You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[11:27] <bobsomebody> i figured he was going for hi
[11:27] <bobsomebody> just wanted to be cute :P
[11:27] <unagi> lol
[11:27] <Hitomaro> ok so I installed gparted
[11:27] <use> i was installing vmware from adept manager but it didn't go right
[11:27] <unagi> so no one has a hint on how to get a webcam workin?
[11:27] <Hitomaro> now what do I do?
[11:27] <bobsomebody> brb, need to redo firewall script
[11:27] <Flannel> Hitomaro: you'll need to run gparted from a liveCD.  So, the Desktop CD will work, or you can download a Gparted CD or whatnot.  And then you'll use that to shrink your linux partitions
[11:27] <Jordan_U> use, Are you running another package manager? or did a package manager recently crash?
[11:27] <vip3rousmango> anyone know how to convert .bin/.cue files into .iso so they can be burnt to a cd??
[11:27] <bobsomebody> unagi, did u get it from radioshack? (webcam?)
[11:27] <Flannel> !iso | vip3rousmango
[11:27] <ubotu> vip3rousmango: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[11:27] <use> Jordan_U; im not when installing vmware it didn't install correctly
[11:28] <unagi> i can tell you how to on windows vip3rousmango
[11:28] <bobsomebody> i just bought one that wont work with XP, i was like wtf?
[11:28] <Hitomaro> flannel, where is gparted located?
[11:28] <unagi> no bobsomebody its in my laptop screen
[11:28] <use> Jordan_U; so its stil lbeing cashed i think
[11:28] <vip3rousmango> unagi: im sure, as can I.. windows is my bitch, but ubuntu..not so much still learning
[11:28] <rich__> vip3rousmango: bitchunk will convert .cue .bin to .iso
[11:28] <bobsomebody> unagi, oh.... hmmmm
[11:28] <gnomefreak> vip3rousmango: watch your language
[11:28] <Jordan_U> use, What error are you getting?
[11:28] <vip3rousmango> my bad
[11:28] <Flannel> Hitomaro: Uh, System > Administration > Gnome Partition Editor, I think.  It's been a while, so don't quote me on that.  Something sorta like that.
[11:29] <use> Jordan_U; You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[11:29] <bobsomebody> man, does everyone on the net get this odd network traffic all the time?
[11:29] <Fujitsu> use: Close Synaptic, apt-get, dpkg, aptitude, an updater, or adept.
[11:29] <bobsomebody> ive had 26 ssh attempts from 8 differnt ip's today alone
[11:29] <Jordan_U> use, I meant did you get an error specifically from installing vmware?
[11:29] <Hitomaro> ok flannel, so I run livecd to get it to work?
[11:29] <rich__> sry its called binchunker : http://he.fi/bchunk/
[11:29] <Flannel> Hitomaro: right, because you can't edit partitions currently in use
[11:30] <preaction> bobsomebody: that's a slow day on my system. freebsd alerts me to every one of them :(
[11:30] <bobsomebody> hehe, this talking log is great
[11:30] <Fujitsu> bobsomebody: That's not many...
[11:30] <nico_> does anyone has any last words to say before 1.1 comes out? cause now's the time.
[11:30] <use> soul@sanctuary:~$ sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[11:30] <use> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:30] <Hitomaro> what do I edited as?
[11:30] <Fujitsu> use: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:30] <Hitomaro> edit*
[11:30] <gnomefreak> use: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:30] <gnomefreak> use: hint read the error ;)
[11:30] <Hitomaro> um what?
[11:30] <bobsomebody> preaction, hehe, yeah ubuntu does tail | awk {espeak} on log events
[11:30] <Hitomaro> oh wrong user
[11:30] <Flannel> Hitomaro: er... what?  You'll just edit it.  Shouldn't prompt you for a password or anything.  Although, I'm not sure thats the question you're asking
[11:31] <bobsomebody> so i get this cool alert w/ the nasa beep
[11:31] <bobsomebody> im so 1337
[11:31] <bobsomebody> haha nah
[11:31] <preaction> bobsomebody: logcheck is good software, you get an e-mail digest of the happenings
[11:31] <Hitomaro> Flannel: what size should I make my ubuntu? 1600mb?
[11:31] <bobsomebody> yeah, i thought about another software to manage the logs
[11:31] <Fujitsu> Hitomaro: Bigger is better. That's very minimal.
[11:31] <gnomefreak> bobsomebody: join #ubuntu-offtopic for non support subjects
[11:31] <Jordan_U> bobsomebody, Like I said have some fun with it and install a honeypot ( that will also slow them down by not replying to handshakes quickly and other things that will slow down automated scripts )
[11:32] <bobsomebody> but i only have 4 local machine (2 desk 2 servers) and one centOS remote shell
[11:32] <use> thanx guys
[11:32] <Hitomaro> Flannel, Fujitsu: I'm trying to make a swap file for linux
[11:32] <bobsomebody> gnomefreak, noted, i poke in here to see if i can help at all
[11:32] <Flannel> Hitomaro: How much RAM do you have?
[11:32] <Flannel> Hitomaro: er, wait.  A swap file? or swap partition?
[11:32] <Hitomaro> Flannel: 1000mb of Ram
[11:33] <Hitomaro> yes a swap partition
[11:33] <Flannel> Hitomaro: you can make/use a swap file without repartitioning at all.
[11:33] <Hitomaro> sorry
[11:33] <Fujitsu> Hitomaro: I'd go for 2GiB, but it depends on what you want to do.
[11:33] <Hitomaro> so 2gib
[11:33] <Hitomaro> and the rest for?
[11:33] <Flannel> Hitomaro: You'll want to make the new partition 1GB or 2GB probably.  Depending on what you're doing.
[11:33] <twager> I read the bbc news24 ok but when I click on a link from there like weather or sport the connection freezes and I get nothing back ..Any ideas ?
[11:33] <Flannel> Hitomaro: leave the rest for your current install
[11:34] <Hitomaro> ok so I just change the linux partition to /swap and 2gigs then I just leave the rest correct!?
[11:35] <Hitomaro> will I see the partition editor on livecd?
[11:35] <Flannel> Hitomaro: You shrink the linux partition by 2GB, then in the freespace, you create a new partition, type swap.
[11:36] <Hitomaro> ok but will I see the partition editor while on livecd?
[11:36] <babo> guys, does anyone have any cryptluks experience ?
[11:36] <babo> Command failed.
[11:36] <babo> root@eire:/home/babo# cryptsetup --verbose --verify-passphrase luksFormat /dev/sda3
[11:37] <Fujitsu> babo: What error does it give?
[11:37] <babo> Hitomaro: open gparted and you'll see it ...
[11:37] <Fujitsu> Hitomaro: Yes.
[11:37] <babo> Fujitsu, it doesn't give an error ...
[11:37] <Fujitsu> babo: What does it do, then?
[11:37] <Hitomaro> ok thanks a lot
[11:37] <babo> I've umounted the partition, checked it for bad blocks and filled it with noise.
[11:37] <Hitomaro> bye
[11:37] <Fujitsu> babo: What message does it give?
[11:37] <Fujitsu> Hitomaro: Bye!
[11:37] <babo> Fujitsu, it only says Command Failed
[11:38] <Fujitsu> babo: Ah.
[11:38] <Fujitsu> Ensure you're running it as root, and that it really isn't mounted or used by LVM or similar.
[11:38] <BrendanM> Ok, can somebody explain to me the difference between wlan0 and ra0? For the longest time my wireless interface was ra0, but then I compiled some new drivers for it (rt61 chipset) and then it was wlan0 for a while. Now I've just recently been messing around with network manager, and now all of a sudden it's ra0. Can somebody tell me what's going on? Or at the very least, what's the difference?
[11:39] <bobsomebody> its just a name
[11:39] <Fujitsu> BrendanM: It just depends on what the drivers decide to call it. It doesn't have any effect on anything.
[11:39] <BrendanM> It does affect network manager, apparently.
[11:40] <Fujitsu> BrendanM: How do you mean?
[11:40] <BrendanM> From what I can tell, NetworkManager only recognizes wlan0 interfaces as being wireless
[11:40] <BrendanM> it ignores ra0-named ones
[11:40] <Fujitsu> BrendanM: No, it looks at the attributes of the interface. My eth1 is wireless, and NM works fine.
[11:40] <Fujitsu> BrendanM: It's possible that those drivers aren't liked by NM. Try Googling around.
[11:41] <BrendanM> I think that may be the issue
[11:43] <babo> Fujitsu, it's definitely umounted. What do you mean by 'make sure it's not used by the LVM' ?
[11:44] <Fujitsu> babo: If you don't know what LVM or EVMS are, you're not using them. Have you rebooted and tried again?
[11:44] <Fujitsu> Which version of Ubuntu is it?
[11:44] <ziroday> !radi
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <ziroday> !raid
[11:44] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:44] <babo> Fujitsu, Faw
[11:44] <babo> n
[11:44] <unlink> what application installs the requisite packages for use of a given language?
[11:45] <Fujitsu> babo: Feisty, you mean? It works fine for me on all current releases.
[11:45] <BrendanM> Fujitsu, how can I check what version of the wireless driver is running?
[11:45] <Fujitsu> unlink: gnome-language-selector?
[11:45] <FmC> Hi does anyone know how to add zmodem support to gnome-term? (it's something I really miss from secureCRT)
[11:45] <Fujitsu> BrendanM: I'm not sure.
[11:45] <Fujitsu> FmC: You'd be better off asking in a gnome-terminal channel, probably.
[11:45] <babo> Fujitsu, feisty fawn
[11:46] <FmC> I see thanks
[11:46] <Fujitsu> babo: Why do you want to know?
[11:46] <unlink> Fujitsu: thanks
[11:46] <babo> Fujitsu, why do I want to know what ?
[11:46] <Fujitsu> babo: Oops, wrong person. Sorry.
[11:47] <babo> Fujitsu, so you say a reboot might work ?
[11:47] <babo> maybe if I boot to a live cd and then do it from there ?
[11:47] <Fujitsu> babo: It might. First, try to use cryptsetup luksFormat on a file on one of the mounted partitions.
[11:47] <Fujitsu> It's possible a module isn't loaded into the kernel, and that will show us if that's it.
[11:48] <babo> Fujitsu, it fails there as well
[11:48] <babo> no error
[11:48] <Shadow6363> anyone around that could help me with configuring a bridge?
[11:49] <babo> Fujitsu, i'm missing a kernel module ? any idea which one ?
[11:50] <Fujitsu> babo: Not sure. Try rebooting.
[11:50] <babo> how do I change the code page from the command line ...
[11:50] <babo> ?
[11:50] <anandanbu> I have a problem with my gnome in ubuntu 7.04 after installing compiz fusion and the error is as follows
[11:50] <anandanbu> http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/8307/windowerrorqk1.png
[11:50] <babo> Fujitsu, rebooting to live ?
[11:51] <Fujitsu> anandanbu: We can't support that.
[11:51] <mauretto> ciao a tutti
[11:51] <bobsomebody> i have seen desktops running top (or other commands) in the background of the desktop, how do you do that?
[11:51] <Fujitsu> anandanbu: Ask in the compiz channel.
[11:51] <bobsomebody> not xscreensaver
[11:51] <mauretto> hi to all
[11:51] <anandanbu> Fujitsu: then what would be the solution for this
[11:51] <mauretto> i got a problem with Skype application
[11:51] <anandanbu> to obtain my gdm back
[11:51] <mauretto> can somebody give me an help?
[11:51] <Fujitsu> anandanbu: We can't help with unofficial packages.
[11:52] <kismet> bobsomebody, do you mean desklets ?
[11:52] <mauretto> i took it from synaptic...
[11:52] <bobsomebody> perhaps, let me google
[11:52] <kismet> !desklets
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desklets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <kismet> !gdesklets
[11:52] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[11:52] <Fujitsu> mauretto: Skype is a proprietary application which we are unable to support... But what is your issue?
[11:52] <mauretto> i got an error message "database failure" on every attempet to log in
[11:52] <Fujitsu> Wait... Skype in Synaptic? It doesn't exist in official Ubuntu repos....
[11:52] <mauretto> try to search it in synapti fuji..
[11:53] <Shadow6363> bobsomebody, did you mean like a video playing as the desktop?
[11:53] <Fujitsu> mauretto: It's most definitely not in any official repositories. Try asking the Skype people.
[11:54] <mauretto> i read several people having this problem and they think it's when u got another instance of skype opened
[11:54] <mauretto> but that's not my case..
[11:54] <bobsomebody> Shadow6363, no, actually perhaps i should reask my question
[11:55] <bobsomebody> i would like to display my log tail on the desktop as the background
[11:55] <Shadow6363> that would probably be a desklet like gdesklets or screenlets
[11:55] <Shadow6363> perhaps combined with a compositing manager to make it your background, but i believe you could do without one
[11:56] <bobsomebody> sounds like its more trouble than its worth right now
[11:56] <beni> How can I see which device is mounted?
[11:56] <beni> I mean, beside fstab
[11:57] <bobsomebody> i have 8 screens, i can sacrifice one to a terminal window
[11:57] <Shadow6363> getting gdesklets or screenlets isnt very hard
[11:57] <Shadow6363> gdesklets should just be a package in the repos
[11:58] <Shadow6363> screenlets i have no experience with
[11:58] <test123> 7.04 freeze in couple of minutes. What is the best thing to do  ?
[11:58] <bobsomebody> yes, but i am trying to refrain from going apt-get crazy with these machines, just take it one package at a time
[11:59] <bobsomebody> still kinda new to this, but im not a complete failure :P
[11:59] <beni> !mount | beni
[11:59] <bobsomebody> make clean; sleep
[11:59] <Shadow6363> yeah, i know what you mean
[12:00] <beni> how to unmount a device?
[12:00] <bobsomebody> unmount ?
[12:00] <Frogzoo> Shadow6363: gdesklets :p
[12:00] <Shadow6363> beni, umount path_to_device
[12:00] <beni> Shadow6363: thank you
[12:01] <Frogzoo> beni: sudo umount /path/xxx
[12:01] <Shadow6363> yup
[12:02] <unagi> !gdm
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <bobsomebody> lol
[12:03] <rasmuson> When I boot feisty on my brand new lenovo r61 it gives me a blank screen. Any ideas
[12:03] <bobsomebody> i would expect it to have something
[12:03] <bobsomebody> lenovo?
[12:03] <fritz> great, i'm unbanned and i know how to use pastebin..now on with my problem:D
[12:03] <unlink> where's the home page for gnome-language-selector?
[12:03] <rasmuson> thinkpad
[12:03] <bobsomebody> oh
[12:04] <bobsomebody> is this durring install? or after?
[12:04] <rasmuson> a few seconds after I choose 'install feisty'
[12:04] <fritz> the 2 partitions from a 2nd hdd appear as blank folders....i erased them from fstab because when i tryed to mount them, it said they're allready in fstab....and tryied remountng them after deletion from fstab and it doesen't work....so any clues?
[12:05] <gnomefreak> fritz: did you reboot after removing them from fstab?
[12:06] <bobsomebody> rasmuson, reboot to the install splash and press f6
[12:06] <rasmuson> I have also seen the problems described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588. But the solution seems not to work for me
[12:06] <fritz> yes....i'm affraid so
[12:06] <bobsomebody> delete the splash quiet -- at the end
[12:06] <rasmuson> bobsomebody: yes?
[12:06] <rasmuson> bobsomebody: will try
[12:06] <bobsomebody> it will at least let you see what fails
[12:06] <bobsomebody> try the alt install disk too
[12:06] <bobsomebody> whenever i put ubuntu on a laptop i ALWAYS get that problem
[12:07] <bobsomebody> but the alternate disks work flawless
[12:07] <fritz> sooooooo?......
[12:07] <Frogzoo> !enter | bobsomebody
[12:07] <ubotu> bobsomebody: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:07] <rasmuson> bobsomebody: what is the alternate disk?
[12:07] <bobsomebody> Frogzoo, noted, sorry, habbit
[12:08] <bobsomebody> rasmuson, it is text based installer with no live run, similar to the server install disk imho
[12:08] <rasmuson> bobsomebody: ok, thanks.
[12:09] <bobsomebody> rasmuson, just go to a mirror and look at the names, it will note the alternate install disk
[12:10] <rasmuson> bobsomebody: thanks, will try the alternate disk. Bye
[12:11] <fssssssssssh> wie kann man das touchpad deaktiviern ?
[12:11] <fssssssssssh> whoups
[12:11] <judyc> Hi, anyone knows this: I'm installing Opera on AMD64. But I can't use the SHARE QT version of Opera due to the version incompatible.
[12:11] <fssssssssssh> how to deactivate the touchpad ?
[12:13] <mike01gr> hi
[12:15] <mike01gr> how can i refresh the icons of aplication of gnome
[12:15] <mike01gr> ???
[12:15] <Xbehave> why does limewire not show anything in the user interface, its just blank. or could some1 recomend an alternative?
[12:15] <kismet> mike01gr, type killall gnome-panel in terminal
[12:15] <kismet> !frostwire
[12:15] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[12:17] <Xbehave> kismet: i tried frostwire its the same
[12:17] <unagi> i love linux
[12:17] <kismet> Xbehave, tried searching on the forums ?
[12:17] <kismet> unagi, me too!!
[12:18] <unagi> too bad i have to install 2 versions
[12:18] <Fujitsu> unagi: Why?
[12:18] <unagi> because i learned on ubuntu but i need an rpm distro to run maya
[12:18] <stefg> Xbehave: running beryl or compiz?
[12:19] <mike01gr> how can i change the icons of gnome aplications because some are not sho enything ???\
[12:19] <Fujitsu> unagi: alien?
[12:19] <stefg> !alien | unagi
[12:19] <ubotu> unagi: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[12:19] <kismet> unagi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66859
[12:19] <Dominat0r> morning all
[12:19] <kismet> howdie Dominat0r
[12:19] <unagi> i can install it fine but maya locks up when you push the space bar
[12:20] <kismet> i see you've even posted about it :p
[12:22] <bouzo> hey there people
[12:25] <john> Hi. Can someone tell me which file I need to edit to get x to work ... I have just tried to update from breezy to dapper and all updates seemed to install - but now after reboot I am at a prompt - and I want my old desktop back!!!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:25] <Dominat0r> :) @ kismet
[12:27] <Cappy> john; dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - although the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:27] <bouzo> hm
[12:27] <Jordan_U> !xconfig | john
[12:27] <ubotu> john: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[12:27] <Cappy> you probaly have to sudo that actually
[12:27] <nomic> anyone know how to get adobe reader installed on ubuntu (acrobat pdf files)
[12:27] <bouzo> arrr
[12:27] <Oni-Dracula> mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member' -- I have a nearly hosed hard drive that I have connected via USB adapter...can anyone help me possibly bypass this error?
[12:27] <bouzo> !FixRes
[12:27] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:28] <bouzo> thanks
[12:28] <HET2> how do i switch the primary network interface in ubuntu? i have my network settings open but i have no checkbox for wlan - it is always on :/
[12:28] <bouzo> ;]
[12:28] <nomic> i use sudo apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread acroread-plugins and it says can't find package
[12:28] <frying_fish> HET2, are you using network-manager?
[12:28] <nomic> E: Couldn't find package acroread
[12:28] <nomic> hep!
[12:28] <HET2> frying_fish: yes, i just figured it out
[12:28] <Shadow6363> @nomic, have you enabled all the repositories?
[12:28] <nomic> erm
[12:28] <frying_fish> nomic, you need to make sure you have the repositories enabled
[12:28] <nomic> whats that?
[12:29] <Cappy> Oni-Dracula, sounds like the filesystem type isn't being recongnised - is there data already on the disk?
[12:29] <nomic> tell me how somebody
[12:29] <nomic> pls
[12:29] <nomic> to enable repositories
[12:29] <Shadow6363> nomic, go to system>admin>software sources
[12:29] <frying_fish> ahh lovely, someone telling them to use command line apt without any knowledge
[12:29] <nomic> ok
[12:29] <frying_fish> Shadow6363, I'm sure you can handle this.
[12:29] <Oni-Dracula> Cappy, it was an ubuntu install that a couple weeks ago decided to stop booting (hard drive going bad?)
[12:29] <nomic> then what?
[12:30] <Cappy> Oni-Dracula, do you get any output in your syslog?
[12:30] <Shadow6363> @nomic, then you want to pretty much just enable all the repositories on the first screen
[12:30] <primski> hello, im having some problems with subversion, can anyone help? i am getting an' svn: path '' not present' error when path obviously exist in the repo.
[12:30] <nomic> ok
[12:30] <nomic> they're all ticked
[12:30] <nomic> ok
[12:30] <nomic> brb
[12:30] <Shadow6363> @nomic, main, restricted, multiverse, something else
[12:30] <Oni-Dracula> Cappy, you mean from the install that's on the USB hard drive that can't be mounted? No, grub wasn't able to load a partition
[12:30] <Shadow6363> (universe)
[12:31] <Jordan_U> frying_fish, If you are referring to dpkg-reconfigure it is a very graphical cli application :)
[12:31] <Cappy> Oni-Dracula, its sound to me that the ubuntu installer has installed onto aLVM group which it now can't find cause of the new instalation
[12:31] <bryns> i have a new install of 6.06.1-lts server, with openssh-server installed. i did an apt-get update/upgrade and now i'm getting an openssh-server error that /lib/libkeyutils.so.1 is missing... ? only trace of this package is in gutsy gibbon, no trace of it in the dapper package list
[12:31] <Oni-Dracula> Cappy, any way to bypass so I can access the /home directory?
[12:31] <Shadow6363> ugh, why must my internet drop everytime i try to bridge it
[12:32] <Oni-Dracula> Cappy, or is it completely hosed and has to be formatted
[12:32] <Cappy> Oni-Dracula, I'm not sure never had to get past that problem before Anyone else had to do this?
[12:32] <ahlibyte> help:error on grub bootloader
[12:32] <bryns> why is openssh suddenly asking for /lib/libkeyutils.so.1 when other identical servers don't have it and aren't asking for it?
[12:33] <Jordan_U> ahlibyte, What error?
[12:34] <Jordan_U> bryns, I would file a bug, sorry that I don't think I can be of more help than that
[12:34] <timopn> I should to install "recode", the terminal says "type apt-get install recode" but than, he says "recode not found", so, how can i install ist?
[12:35] <Shadow6363> Oni-Dracula, no idea if this works, but you could try and plug it into a windows pc if it is an ext3 fs and then use explore2fs to try and read it
[12:35] <Jordan_U> timopn, Do you have the repository that enabled that it says it needs?
[12:35] <Cappy> Oni-Dracula, http://pissedoffadmins.com/index.php?entry=entry070507-105201
[12:35] <nomic> ok thnx
[12:35] <bryns> thanks, will do
[12:35] <Oni-Dracula> Shadow6363, would work if explore2fs supported vista
[12:36] <ahlibyte> when, my computer is try to boot with grub, there is a text :error 17
[12:36] <Cappy> that guy had the same prob and he got his data - hope it helps!
[12:36] <Oni-Dracula> ..maybe
[12:36] <timopn> ? i want to simulate "adobe photoshop" and tehre i must to recode the "adobe.reg", so i have to isntall recode
[12:36] <nomic> i just entered all instructions
[12:36] <nomic> VIVA UBUNTU!!!!!!
[12:36] <frojnd> I have q. If I install linux where IP is static. And Is for every computer in LAN needed to be set and after I install this linux on that kind of connection and bring computer where is no router and no static IP. Can I just start pppoeconf and dsl connection will work?
[12:36] <Shadow6363> Oni-Dracula, Cappy seems to have found the solution
[12:36] <Shadow6363> nomic, did you ever get acrobat?
[12:36] <Oni-Dracula> eww smells like I have to use IDE to connect it
[12:37] <blackest> join #psp
[12:37] <Cappy> shouldn't have to Oni-Dracula should just show up as a scsi disk
[12:38] <Oni-Dracula> well fdisk -l only shows my SATA drive
[12:38] <Jordan_U> timopn, I just installed recode fine, are you sure that you typed it correctly?
[12:38] <Oni-Dracula> and the only reason I know the drive is connected is because it's showing up in the device manager GUI as being /dev/sdb1
[12:38] <timopn> jes "apt-get insatll recode"...?
[12:38] <Jordan_U> timopn, install not insatll
[12:40] <jhaig> How can I get the login configuration manager up from the command line?  I'm logged into the machine remotely.
[12:41] <UberPsyX> hi, in guild wars, ive got it running with sound and made the mouse visible but every now and then my character will freeze and i need to reboot guild wars to get it moving again, why is this happening?
[12:41] <stefg> jhaig: sudo gdmsetup (given you#Re ssh -X'd)
[12:41] <nomad111> hey all, vlc, totem and mplayer crash as soon as i play mpeg files
[12:41] <stefg> that's sad
[12:42] <Jordan_U> stefg, gksudo for GUI apps
[12:42] <jhaig> stefg: Thanks.
[12:42] <Shadow6363> nomad111, odd, i ran into that same problem like 20 minutes ago
[12:42] <nomad111> i remember from previous experience it relates to the fact that i enabled desktop effects
[12:42] <nomad111> but i cant remember where i found the solution to it
[12:42] <Shadow6363> @if so, then ive got nothing
[12:42] <Jordan_U> nomad111, Try disabling xv?
[12:42] <stefg> Jordan_U: ubuntus sudo is smart enough to inherit the X env now :-)
[12:43] <john> ok - after trying to update from breezy to dapper I now have at start-up ... XSERVER DISABLED. Restart GDM when it is configured correctly .... any ideas anyone?
[12:43] <nomad111> Jordan_U: how do i do so
[12:43] <Jordan_U> nomad111, gstreamer-properties
[12:43] <nomad111> Jordan_U: i did a fresh install of ubuntu today after a while
[12:43] <Jordan_U> nomad111, choose no-xv for video
[12:43] <nomad111> yep done
[12:43] <stefg> john: so configure your X-server. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:43] <nomad111> lets see now
[12:44] <Jordan_U> nomad111, That should fix totem
[12:44] <MajorPayne> gksudo still gives a nice GUI to type your password in if you are creating a launcher.
[12:44] <nomad111> Jordan_U: not quite
[12:44] <john> stefg - I did that but ...
[12:44] <stefg> john: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart after that
[12:44] <nomad111> Jordan_U: i can hear sound only
[12:44] <Jordan_U> stefg, Do you know that or do you say that just because it works with some apps? ( sudo )
[12:44] <nomad111> actually it works
[12:45] <john> ok stefg - thanks heaps but don't go away!!!!
[12:45] <ahlibyte> help please: error 17 when boot using grub
[12:45] <stefg> Jordan_U: !grub | ahlibyte
[12:45] <stefg> !grub | ahlibyte
[12:45] <ubotu> ahlibyte: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:46] <Jordan_U> stefg, Do you know that or do you say that just because it works with some apps? ( sudo )
[12:47] <lara> ciao a tutti
[12:47] <ahlibyte> thnx :D
[12:47] <stefg> Jordan_U: the ubuntu devs are well aware that there might be clueless users, so sudo works with most gnome apps and over ssh -X. although from an orthodox point of view it's still gksudo, this sloppiness is tolerated
[12:47] <Oni-Dracula> Shadow6363, i tried explore2fs... all that comes up is lost+found :(
[12:47] <aref> When I want to recode "adobe.reg" but the terminal says "root@timon-desktop:/home/timon# recode ucs-2..ascii /home/timon/.wine/drive_c/Programme/Gemeinsame\ Dateien/Adobe/adobe.reg recode: /home/timon/.wine/drive_c/Programme/Gemeinsame Dateien/Adobe/adobe.reg fehlgeschlagen: Nicht bersetzbare Eingabe in Schritt `ISO-10646-UCS-2..ANSI_X3.4-1968' "
[12:48] <Hor|zon> don't paste in here
[12:48] <Shadow6363> Oni-Dracula, sorry :( did you try the other persons solution?
[12:48] <scorp123> !pastebin | aref
[12:48] <ubotu> aref: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:49] <Jordan_U> stefg, If the page linked to from !gksudo is correct then that sloppiness could get people into trouble if they use one of the few apps that won't work with sudo
[12:49] <chrvez> hello there! can some one plz help me install alsa 1.0.14-1 in my ubuntu?
[12:49] <b0ha> can i ask something related to mysql here?
[12:49] <ahlibyte> no problem
[12:49] <Oni-Dracula> Shadow6363, can't find lvm2 tools that it refrences...and it seems to only work if the drive is showing up in fdisk -l (which mine is not)
[12:49] <stefg> Jordan_U: if they don't know the difference, they probably shouldn't use the apps whicj require proper gksudo :-)
[12:50] <b0ha> how do you inport file.sql to database?
[12:50] <b0ha> what command do i have to use
[12:50] <Shadow6363> Jordan_U/stefg, is there a list of apps that should only use gksudo/any way to know?
[12:50] <ahlibyte> you can using phpmyadmin
[12:50] <Jordan_U> stefg, Still, it is a bad habit to get into
[12:50] <Shadow6363> i pretty much just use it whenever I have a graphical program and would like to know if im doing something wrong
[12:50] <b0ha> yes but i want to try with terminal  ;)
[12:51] <Shadow6363> Oni-Dracula, i presume you're doing sudo fdisk -l ?
[12:51] <aref> Can someone help me pls? I want to recode a windows-registry but it given the error : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29087/
[12:51] <Oni-Dracula> heh I didn't think root permissions would make a diff
[12:51] <Jordan_U> Shadow6363, Not that I know of, IMHO the only reasonable thing to do is to always use gksudo with all GUI apps
[12:52] <Jordan_U> aref, ##windows
[12:52] <scorp123> b0ha: maybe it would help if you read a MySQL tutorial first? Messing around with databases requires some minimum knowledge that one should have ....
[12:52] <aref> waht?
[12:52] <Shadow6363> Oni-Dracula, did it? for some reason nothing appears for me if i dont sudo it
[12:52] <Jordan_U> !windows | aref
[12:52] <ubotu> aref: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[12:52] <Shadow6363> thanks Jordan
[12:52] <Oni-Dracula> Shadow6363, my main drive will show up without root permissions...
[12:52] <chrvez> is there a place where i can get alsa 1.0.14-1 x64(amd) in a deb format?
[12:53] <b0ha> scorp123, i know basic things
[12:53] <frojnd> I have q. If I install linux where IP is static. And Is for every computer in LAN needed to be set and after I install this linux on that kind of connection and bring computer where is no router and no static IP. Can I just start pppoeconf and dsl connection will work?
[12:53] <scorp123> aref: Windows registry??? Seriously: you're in the wrong channel :->
[12:53] <b0ha> but i used only phpmyadmin before
[12:53] <Jordan_U> chrvez, packages.ubuntu.com?
[12:53] <Shadow6363> Oni_dracula, i get nothing, out of curiosity, did sudo show your screwy drive?
[12:53] <aref> I want to recode the registry in Ubuntu!
[12:53] <scorp123> b0ha: apparently not or else you wouldn't ask such basic things ... sorry to say so.
[12:53] <chrvez> Jordan, you mean the repositories?
[12:54] <Oni-Dracula> Shadow6363, you're right it shows up when you sudo it:  /dev/sdb1   *           1       14946   120053713+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[12:54] <predaeus> aref, do you mean the wine registry? just run it's regedit or whatever command.
[12:54] <Jordan_U> chrvez, Yes, although I havn't checked if they have that version
[12:54] <Oni-Dracula> Shadow6363, it shouldn't say HPFS/NTFS should it...
[12:54] <chrvez> ok i will look for it
[12:55] <Shadow6363> @scorp123, aref, predaeus, correct me if I'm wrong, but i believe he is trying to get photoshop running which requires some wine registry entry changes so hes not completely lost it ;)
[12:55] <Shadow6363> Oni-Dracula, don't think so...
[12:55] <unagi> anyone having problems waking from hibernate?
[12:55] <b0ha> scorp123, like i said i used phpmyadmin to create and edit databases and the php to comunicate with mysql
[12:55] <b0ha> in phpmyadmin is all graphic
[12:55] <b0ha> buttons and that things
[12:55] <scorp123> Shadow6363: I use GIMP :)
[12:56] <predaeus> aref, run "wine .wine/drive_c/windows/regedit.exe"
[12:56] <scorp123> b0ha: so you're still missing very basic knowledge. phpmyadmin doesn't qualify as 'knowledge'.
[12:56] <predaeus> aref, from your ~/  (your home)
[12:56] <Shadow6363> scorp123, yeah, i try to, but i myself find it too difficult to use
[12:56] <scorp123> b0ha: you should read a tutorial about some SQL commands
[12:57] <datmony> I am having an issue where ubuntu will not shut down completely, it will shut off all the harddrives, etc but then hang at the final ubuntu screen
[12:57] <b0ha> scorp123,  i will look for some tutorials :) tnx
[12:57] <datmony> anyone have a similar issue?
[12:57] <scorp123> b0ha: MySQL.com has good forums and some tutorials as PDF's if I remember right. Start there.
[12:57] <predaeus> datmony, did you search the forums?
[12:57] <crolle17> i tried to search for package with dpkg -l | grep vmware but found nothing.
[12:58] <crolle17> what did i misunderstand?
[12:58] <Shadow6363> datmony, do you know where it is hanging?
[12:58] <crolle17> in man dpkg is written that dpkg list all packages...
[12:58] <Jordan_U> crolle17, dpkg -l only lists packages you have installed
[12:58] <john> after trying to update from breezy to dapper - on startup I get a message X server is diabled Restart GDM when it is configured correctly .... HELP!!!! What id GDM and how do I configure it PLZ ...
[12:58] <stefg> datmony: known issue... sometimes you're lucky by adding apm=power-off to your boot options, or adding somethng i don't recall to /etc/modules.
[12:59] <stefg> datmony: google has it
[12:59] <datmony> hmm, ok I will check it out
[12:59] <crolle17> Jordan_U, wich option do i need?
[12:59] <Jordan_U> john, Did you try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" ?
[12:59] <Jordan_U> crolle17, apt-cache search
[12:59] <john> jordan - U - yes tried that ...
[01:00] <xenex> I can't delete a file from the trash, it says I don't have permission. Any fix?
[01:00] <scorp123> crolle17: dpkg -l vmware*
[01:00] <scorp123> crolle17: if it is installed that is
[01:00] <Jordan_U> john, Try it choosing vesa as the driver
[01:00] <Oni-Dracula> Shadow6363, is the default Ubuntu filesystem ext3 or ext2?
[01:00] <scorp123> crolle17: otherwise: apt-cache search vmware
[01:00] <john> Jordan_U there is still mention of breezy in the startup - should say dapper now ...
[01:00] <crolle17> scorp123, Jordan_U  thank you
[01:00] <Shadow6363> john, try it without the -phigh/try with very basic driver/sudo killall gdm/ctrl + alt +F7?
[01:01] <unagi> is there any fix for the hibernation problems?
[01:01] <Shadow6363> Oni-Dracula, ext3
[01:01] <peter07_> hi, where elsewhere than in /etc/fstab xubuntu may store information about partitions that should be mounted at boot time???
[01:01] <Jordan_U> john, run another apt-get dist-upgrade to be sure everything is updated
[01:01] <john> What is GDM?? and how do I configre it?
[01:01] <Oni-Dracula> Shadow6363, thought so... I've somehow progressed to it just complaining about an invalid filesystem when I try to manually mount it
[01:01] <Shadow6363> john, if you do a sudo killall gdm, dont forget a sudo gdm afterwards
[01:01] <Cappy> Oni-Dracula, could also be LVM if you selected that at install time
[01:02] <Jordan_U> Shadow6363, I don't know if there is really a difference but sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop seems more official
[01:02] <Oni-Dracula> Cappy, Shadow6363, syslog sez [ 6853.494831]  EXT3-fs: Magic mismatch, very weird !
[01:02] <Shadow6363> Jordan_U, thanks, will keep that in mind
[01:02] <stefg> datmony: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/43961
[01:03] <scorp123> b0ha: still here?
[01:03] <Cappy> Oni-Dracula, in a termial what does sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb show?
[01:03] <Cappy> just be careful not to alter anything
[01:03] <b0ha> scorp123, yes
[01:03] <datmony> thanks stefg, I was just looking at that same thread I think
[01:03] <john> So what id GDM all about? and how do I reconfigure it? Maybe there is mention there of breezy that bneeds to be changed to dapper???
[01:03] <scorp123> b0ha: .... just a sec ....
[01:03] <datmony> seems to be a pretty easy fix overall
[01:03] <Oni-Dracula> Cappy, it says it's time to cry... because it shouldn't say NTFS like it does
[01:04] <datmony> and I have to say, thoroughly impressed with this distro
[01:04] <Jordan_U> john, The problem is not with the GDM it is with xorg, likely your xorg.conf
[01:04] <john> Jordan_U everything is updated ...
[01:04] <john> so I gedit xorg.conf???
[01:04] <AD7six> how do I remove a package which I manually installed (with gdebi-gtk)? it isn't listed in synaptic package manager and I don't need it anymore.
[01:04] <Jordan_U> john, did changing to vesa and running: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" work?
[01:04] <stefg> john: lets get one step back again. So you upgraded from breezy to Dapper, and now your X won't start?
[01:05] <Cappy> Oni-Dracula, arse :(
[01:05] <Cappy> Oni-Dracula, sure its the right disk?
[01:05] <john> no it didn't ...
[01:05] <john> stefg - thats right
[01:05] <Oni-Dracula> Cappy, well it's the only other disk attached to this thing besides the drive I boot to (which is 'buntu)
[01:05] <Jordan_U> AD7six, It should show up in synaptic, try : sudo apt-get remove <package>
[01:05] <manac> hi all
[01:05] <john> and the message says restart gdm when it is configured correctly
[01:05] <stefg> john, what was error, what did you try (sorry for asking again, just trying a systematic approach)
[01:06] <Oni-Dracula> Cappy, I wonder if the darksun package might have something for this situation
[01:06] <john> on start up after installing all the new packages - got a prompt - not desktop
[01:06] <Cappy> Oni-Dracula, the darksun?
[01:07] <stefg> john, what vidoe card is in that box?
[01:07] <Shadow6363> Jordan_U, if x is failing, after running the reconfigure xserver-xorg, does one have to do a Ctrl + Alt +F7 to get back to gdm, just thinking perhaps he/she's forgetting that
[01:07] <Jordan_U> john, can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[01:07] <john> X server disabled - restart gdm when it is configured correctly
[01:07] <Oni-Dracula> Cappy, a package known as Darksun that contains stuff like ntfsundelete
[01:07] <Jordan_U> Shadow6363, No, when X starts it should bring him back to tty 7 automatically
[01:07] <john> I'll try Jordan
[01:07] <stefg> john, what video card is in that box?
[01:07] <Shadow6363> Jordan_U, alright
[01:08] <milestone> how can i escape a variable inside a shell script? I am doing a for FILE in `ls -1 directory`; do cp $FILE to_somewhere; done but i am getting a no such file or directory, because the file contains special chars like "," and "=" and now i need to escape the variable...
[01:08] <Oni-Dracula> Cappy, it's not in any repos though it seems :-/ gotta boot to SLAX to use it
[01:08] <south01> hi, how can i learn my graphic card?
[01:08] <Cappy> hmm you can try I doubt it'll make a difference esp if its just screwed I can't see how it got from ext3 or LVM to NTFS/HPFS
[01:08] <john> stefg - same one as before the update ... unsure I will check ...
[01:08] <Jordan_U> milestone, Usually with a \
[01:08] <AD7six> Jordan_U: thank ye kindly
[01:08] <stefg> john: lspci .... make and model
[01:08] <Cappy> ok well good hunting Oni-Dracula!
[01:08] <Oni-Dracula> Cappy, thanks for the help :)
[01:09] <milestone> Jordan_U: i Know but I need to escape the value that is already in the variable
[01:09] <Cappy> np
[01:09] <MajorPayne> south01: That question makes no sense.
[01:09] <Jordan_U> AD7six, np
[01:09] <stefg> milestone: look at the topic in #bash :-9
[01:09] <south01> there was a code for terminal, it shows the graphic card model, and such details
[01:09] <john> The message says - Restart GDM when it is configured correctly ... How do I configure it???
[01:09] <stefg> john: lspci .... make and model
[01:10] <AD7six> y
[01:10] <AD7six> oops
[01:10] <south01> !graphic
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <roachmmflhyr> I having trouble getting my ports opened up in Feisty Fawn for azureus through Firestarter
[01:10] <john> stefg - what is lspci?
[01:10] <stefg> john: list all devices on thew pci bus... you'll know what your graphis card is
[01:10] <south01> i have ati graphic card but i dont know the model
[01:11] <Jordan_U> south01, Have you tried System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager ?
[01:11] <stefg> john: and remember: DON'T PANIC!
[01:12] <south01> jordan_u; it gives only the name of the card, not the model
[01:12] <john> stefg - vga compatible controller ... does that help?
[01:13] <stefg> john: nothing else? usually it says some description after that
[01:13] <Jordan_U> south01, lspci?
[01:13] <Shadow6363> south01, try system > preferences > hardware information
[01:13] <john> ATI Technologies
[01:14] <stefg> ahhh!
[01:14] <tanlaa1> is what you view normally called your GUI or WM?
[01:14] <roachmmflhyr> anyone know when a patch is going to come out for the "failed to set xfermode" slow boot
[01:14] <stefg> john ... and? that's not all
[01:14] <john> Radeon mobility V1
[01:14] <south01> thanx
[01:14] <south01> all
[01:15] <roachmmflhyr> kind of annoying every time kernel is updated i have to add irqpoll to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:15] <Shiverz> hmm, I know this isn't the right channel to ask about compiz fusion but #ubuntu-effects is dead at the moment, and I'd like to do a reinstall because some settings are messed up, how do I go about and do that?
[01:15] <Jordan_U> roachmmflhyr, Is there a bug filed?
[01:15] <stefg> john: ok, so there's the driver missing i guess. first ' sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` (this is backticks around the name -r)
[01:15] <DBlue> Hi
[01:16] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, reinstall compiz-fusion/did you have it working?  if you just changed some compiz-fusion settings, you could delete all the config files and it should be better
[01:16] <DBlue> Whois the monodeveloper support irc channel?
[01:16] <roachmmflhyr> yes im sure there is i see this bug for feisty fawn everywhere
[01:16] <Jordan_U> john, Have you tried Restricted Manager ?
[01:16] <Judg3_Dr34D> Hi all! Is there a way, when I try to enable desktop effects in Feisty, to stop package manager from installing nvidia-glx ?
[01:17] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: yes I did have it working, but after tinkering with the animation settings, something went wrong. I tried searching for the config files but couldn't find them
[01:17] <Jordan_U> Judg3_Dr34D, Why do you want nvidia-glx not installed?
[01:17] <john> no Jordan_U
[01:17] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, can you still get to ccsm?
[01:17] <Shiverz> yep
[01:17] <Shiverz> most stuff work tho
[01:17] <john> I will try Stefg
[01:18] <Jordan_U> john, System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager will install ATI's proprietary drivers
[01:18] <Judg3_Dr34D> Jordan_U: because I installed the latest 100.14.11 from nvidia.
[01:18] <roachmmflhyr> anyone have experience with firestarter and azureus?
[01:18] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: when i run compiz --replace in terminal I get a bunch of errors
[01:18] <DBlue> me too
[01:18] <stefg> john: here's a guide (scroll down for tthe section on Dapper) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:18] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, /home/user_name/.compizconfig
[01:18] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: I'll try that
[01:18] <Jordan_U> Judg3_Dr34D, You can just tell it not to load the one from restricted modules
[01:19] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, i would try deleting the Default.ini and seeing if itll start back up
[01:19] <Judg3_Dr34D> Jordan_U: how do I do that ?
[01:19] <jimqode> My multimedia keyboard keys do not control volume (popup window show as if it does) but the mixer applet does... I had no luck switching the keyboard controlled mixer device from sound settings..
[01:19] <stefg> !keytouch | jimqode
[01:19] <ubotu> jimqode: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[01:19] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: only file in there
[01:19] <Shiverz> had only this
[01:19] <Shiverz> [gnome_session] : profile = myusername
[01:20] <jimqode> stefg, they seem to be working keyboardwise. the popup volume control pops us when i press the keys
[01:20] <tripppy> i broke my login manager booter? instead of gdm login i just get shell. how do i fix?
[01:20] <stefg> jimqode: there might be a misunderstanding what the actual master is.
[01:21] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, no backend =?
[01:21] <Judg3_Dr34D> trippy: maybe sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start ?! not sure though
[01:21] <john> stefg - it says could not find package ...
[01:21] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: nope, just one file in there
[01:21] <chrvez> can some one PM me to ask some questions about how i can't remove and install again alsa using apt-get?
[01:21] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: i should have 2 profiles, the default one and one of my own
[01:21] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: strange
[01:21] <jimqode> stefg, I tries the options under system/preferences/sound. No luck
[01:21] <stefg> john: sudo apt-get update, then try again
[01:21] <john> but I don't think I got the back tics right ...
[01:21] <Judg3_Dr34D> tripppy: did you try to change nvidia-glx?
[01:22] <stefg> !intelhda | jimqode , maybe this gives info on mixer issues
[01:22] <ubotu> jimqode , maybe this gives info on mixer issues: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[01:22] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: fusion seems to have some issues with animations and minimize windows
[01:22] <tripppy> Judg3_Dr34D, i was playing around with kubuntu and i changed something?
[01:22] <Shadow6363> if you can get to ccsm, have you tried disabling everything but like wobbly windows and then seeing if itll start?
[01:23] <Shadow6363> @Shiverz ^^
[01:23] <viller> does lynx support javascript?
[01:23] <Jordan_U> Judg3_Dr34D, I believe it's in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[01:23] <stefg> john: there's an alternate syntax in the guide i gave you... just get along that guide
[01:23] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: it's not that it doesn't work. most stuff works. however, when i got to the animations submenu I cannot access it (in ccsm)
[01:24] <roachmmflhyr> anyone know how to get usplash to work in feisty fawn? it didnt work on the live cd either. i tried to change resolution to 1024X768, 1280x800, 800x600, and 640x480 still nothing
[01:24] <Judg3_Dr34D> Jordan_U: I should edit linux-restricted-modules-common not to download? where exactly in the file? do you happen to know?
[01:24] <roachmmflhyr> i even tried apt-get install usplash --reinstall still nothing
[01:24] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: i can go around that through advanced settings, my close animation works fine, so does all the others. But the minimize options are blank for some reason (defaulting to Fade animation)
[01:25] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: I'll go enable compiz and see if my config files appear
[01:25] <Jordan_U> Judg3_Dr34D, add it to where it says DISABLED_MODULES
[01:25] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: weird still only one file in .compizconfig
[01:26] <viller> lynx doesn't support javascript. I'm answering my own question :). Links 2 does though and there's an extension for w3m which does too
[01:26] <Shadow6363> you likely arent using a .ini for configuration
[01:26] <Judg3_Dr34D> Jordan_U: so I add "nvidia-glx" in DISABLED_MODULES ?
[01:26] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: shouldnt that be default?
[01:26] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, I'm not sure, it was for me
[01:26] <Jordan_U> Shadow6363, Yes
[01:26] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: i can try selecting "flat-file" for backend
[01:26] <Jordan_U> Judg3_Dr34D, Yes
[01:27] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, im guessing you had gconf?
[01:27] <Judg3_Dr34D> Jordan_U: thank you very much I'll try it (lol sorry but i'm a noob :) )
[01:28] <Jordan_U> Judg3_Dr34D, No problem :) You know that you have to re-install whenever there is a kernel upgrade if you don't use the Ubuntu package for nvidia right?
[01:28] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, all you did was change some settings right, you haven't uninstalled any packages or anything and you had a minimize animation previously?
[01:29] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: okay this is weird
[01:29] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: everthing seems to be working again
[01:29] <Shiverz> Shiverz: aye, gconf config backend
[01:29] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, randomly, or after you switched to flat-file?
[01:29] <Shiverz> shadow6363
[01:29] <Shiverz> randomly
[01:29] <Shiverz> shadow636
[01:29] <Shiverz> lol
[01:29] <Shiverz> sorry
[01:29] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, lol, right when you sent that, mine died and reverted to metacity...
[01:30] <Judg3_Dr34D> Jordan_U: yes I know that, but LOL I don't know how to tell when a kernel update happened and what exactly is a kernel :D
[01:30] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: I haven't removed any packages, just tinkered with the settings
[01:30] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: i reloaded x server last night when I had these probs, reboot, didn't work
[01:30] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, well if everythings working again, I guess its been fixed
[01:30] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, dont really know what to say
[01:30] <Judg3_Dr34D> Jordan_U: I have installed Ubuntu Feisty for about .... 10 days now, I'm an UBER-Noob
[01:30] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: and now it works!
[01:30] <Jordan_U> Judg3_Dr34D, That is why I generally recommend people use the Ubuntu packages even if they are a little older
[01:31] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: well thanks for the help though ;)
[01:31] <Shadow6363> yup
[01:31] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: computers are true black boxes ^^
[01:31] <Shiverz> sometimes...
[01:31] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, yeah...
[01:31] <south01> how can i install flash for opera browser
[01:31] <Judg3_Dr34D> Jordan_U: you have a point but the problem is that 'I have problems with X module and Nvidia kernel module
[01:32] <stefg> !flash
[01:32] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:32] <Judg3_Dr34D> Jordan_U: whenever I try to enable Desktop Effects I get the error message GDM Failed to start
[01:32] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: I'm guessing it was an error through a combination of erroneous user input, but that doesn't explain why restarting X server and loading fusion again or rebooting didn't work
[01:32] <syd> i have problems with postfix
[01:33] <Judg3_Dr34D> Jordan_U: both nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new
[01:33] <Jordan_U> Judg3_Dr34D, Was that only with the packaged drivers?
[01:33] <Judg3_Dr34D> Jordn_U: yes, or at least I think so
[01:33] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: I looked at opencompositing forums last night and it seems animations (especially the minimize animation) is a bit dodge at the moment
[01:33] <south01> how can i install flash player for opera browser
[01:34] <Shiverz> *dodgy
[01:34] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, yeah, i tend to just leave them off
[01:34] <Judg3_Dr34D> Jordan_U: yes, or at least I think so [missed an a there]
[01:35] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: I love the Explode effect when closing a window.
[01:35] <Jordan_U> !tab | Judg3_Dr34D :)
[01:35] <john> stefg - I just tried a few things ... When I restart I get Failed to start X server.
[01:35] <ubotu> Judg3_Dr34D :): You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[01:35] <Judg3_Dr34D> Jordan_U: so I did sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf and change driver to "nv"
[01:35] <stefg> john: so what did you try?
[01:36] <JWheeler> is anyone aware of any tricks that are needed to get 64-bit ubuntu working under qemu? Everything I try, grub is just hanging during the install phase, and I'm getting the same results invoking grub/grub-install manually
[01:36] <Judg3_Dr34D> Jordan_U: :) Yeeeaaay! I learned something new today... tab completion :D thanks
[01:37] <Jordan_U> JWheeler, Have you tried Virtual Box, AFIK it is based off of qemu
[01:37] <john> I tried sudo kill gdm and sudo gdmapt - get update ... said it was all updated although I'm not sure all the updates have been installed yet ...
[01:37] <Shadow6363> JWheeler, I'll second Virtual Box, started using it today and it works wonderfully
[01:37] <JWheeler> Jordan_U, no I haven't but I don't know that it works on my OS
[01:38] <Jordan_U> JWheeler, What OS?
[01:38] <knifeprty> anyone got a working .torrent link to download ubuntu gutsy gibbon[7.10]  for AMD64 platform(desktop cd)???
[01:38] <JWheeler> I'm a solaris user
[01:38] <syd> i can get postfix to send - but can't get to it from a remote box - is ther a resource someone can recomend to help?
[01:38] <Lamego> knifeprty, please note that gutsy is still an alpha version
[01:38] <Shadow6363> knifeparty, youre aware its only tribe 2?
[01:39] <knifeprty> so its not convenient? lol
[01:39] <Lamego> Shadow6363, I suppose tribe doesn't mean much to him:)
[01:39] <ninnghizidha> May someone have an unmodified ".fonts.conf"-File for me?
[01:39] <knifeprty> LOL!
[01:39] <Judg3_Dr34D> tripppy: I have some problems in Ubuntu Feisty with my nvidia-glx and I when at login I get the shell, I I'm doing "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" without quotes and I chande the driver in section Device to "nv" again without quotes in order to get GDM again
[01:39] <Shadow6363> knifeparty, here it is: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-2/gutsy-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[01:39] <stefg> john: see... ati is kind of difficult to get going in Linux, so why don't you just do what the guide says? No driver, no X it's htat simple
[01:39] <Jordan_U> knifeprty, So it could reformat your harddrive and kill your cat
[01:40] <Lamego> knifeprty, no, its not, unless you plan to test development version, instead of using a stable system :)
[01:40] <Shadow6363> lol, nice Jordan_U
[01:40] <Hobbsee> Jordan_U: dog.  cat killing comes in tribe 3.
[01:40] <john> ok - so what is the guide again?
[01:40] <knifeprty> i'd like a stable better :)
[01:40] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: I figured it out what the problem was. My default profile is broken. While my custom user one is not.
[01:40] <Hobbsee> knifeprty: you dont want gutsy, then.
[01:40] <Lamego> knifeprty, get Ubuntu Feisty
[01:40] <knifeprty> btw im using xchat in xp sp2 but want to test out a native 64bit os
[01:41] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: Question is....since I use the gconf backend, where are those profiles saved?
[01:41] <Shadow6363> kinfeparty, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[01:41] <Shadow6363> knifeprty, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[01:41] <JWheeler> and the room goes silent
[01:41] <newuser00> how can i make a launcher for aptitude?
[01:41] <JWheeler> so no support for qemu then?
[01:42] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, i believe ~/.gconf or something similar
[01:42] <knifeprty> shadow6363, thanks guys ;)
[01:42] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, or just do a gconf-editor i think
[01:42] <roachmmflhyr> anyone get azureus to work on Feisty Fawn?
[01:42] <stefg> roachmmflhyr: the ubuntu package is broken, use the sourceforge download
[01:42] <crolle17> when i want to install vmware-player (sudo apt-get install vmware-player) i get some error-messages: Starting VMware services:
[01:42] <crolle17>    Virtual machine monitor                                            failed
[01:42] <crolle17>    Virtual ethernet                                                   failed
[01:42] <crolle17> Module vmnet is not loaded.  Please verify that it is loaded before
[01:42] <crolle17> running this script.
[01:42] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, personally i prefer the flat-file, i understand xml files, but im not sure if its worse than gconf or something, youd have to ask someone else for that
[01:42] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: yeah I tried looking in there only a XML file there
[01:43] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: alright
[01:43] <roachmmflhyr> stegfg: hmm...that may be the problem....thanks
[01:43] <crolle17> and also: invoke-rc.d: initscript vmware-player, action "start" failed.
[01:43] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, i believe those xml files are the config files, if you open them in gedit or something similar they should have the options, think gconf-editor is how youre supposed to modify them though
[01:44] <Jordan_U> crolle17, Known bug, beats me why they still havn't fixed it, I'll get you the bug report with solution...
[01:44] <BadRobot> ;) hi
[01:44] <knifeprty> anyone can tell me if there is any noticeable improvement in performance in 64bit over x86?? im just inquiet
[01:44] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: lol, those XML files are empty
[01:45] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, intriguing, im using flat-file and even mine have stuff inside...
[01:45] <crolle17> Jordan_U, ah. do you have a link to the bugreport and maybe to a solution?
[01:45] <BadRobot> how can i get Enlightenment Engage Dock   on ubuntu feisty?
[01:45] <Jordan_U> crolle17, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/57957
[01:45] <stefg> crolle17: what happens if you try to 'sudo modprobe vmmon' manually ?
[01:45] <crolle17> Jordan_U, thank you. i will read it.
[01:45] <Shiverz> Shadow6363: I appreciate all the help, thanks :)
[01:45] <Shiverz> at least it works now
[01:45] <Shadow6363> Shiverz, yup
[01:45] <knifeprty> i can see smilies! lol:)
[01:45] <Shiverz> I'll try out flat fate
[01:46] <Godchaser> i have a question
[01:46] <Shiverz> *file
[01:46] <BadRobot> :-(
[01:46] <Jordan_U> crolle17, I recommend vmware-server from the ubuntu-commercial repository
[01:46] <knifeprty> hey guys anyone is running a psyBNC?
[01:46] <crolle17> Jordan_U, why?
[01:46] <crolle17> because of this bug?
[01:46] <Jordan_U> crolle17, It works, its also free, it has more features...
[01:47] <Jordan_U> crolle17, I don't see the point in vmware-player
[01:47] <crolle17> Jordan_U, alright. then i will try it. maybe google knows more about it.
[01:47] <Godchaser> im running xchat 2.8.0 for ubuntu, can you send files through this client?
[01:47] <Kroozr> what is vmware for
[01:47] <knifeprty> yes!
[01:47] <Godchaser> how?
[01:47] <stefg> !virtualizers
[01:47] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[01:47] <crolle17> Kroozr, it's or emulating windows or something else.
[01:47] <Oni-Dracula> anyone know the package name for kubuntu?
[01:47] <Jordan_U> crolle17, Again there is a fix for removing the package at the bug report link
[01:48] <stefg> !kubuntu
[01:48] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[01:48] <Jordan_U> Oni-Dracula, kubuntu-desktop
[01:48] <Shadow6363> Godchaser, for one, right click on the user name on the left or right, send file
[01:48] <knifeprty> Godchaser, right click in someone's name
[01:48] <Godchaser> NM
[01:48] <Oni-Dracula> ty Jordan_U
[01:48] <Jordan_U> Oni-Dracula, np
[01:48] <knifeprty> Godchaser, then send file
[01:48] <crolle17> Jordan_U, yes i realised it. but you advised me to use vmware-server because of more features. so i'll try it.
[01:48] <Kroozr> crolle17, ah. . . why would you want to emulate windows and do you actually have to virtually 'install' windows?
[01:48] <crolle17> Kroozr, why not?
[01:48] <strushb> hm, that ubotu may need to learn about Xen ^
[01:49] <crolle17> Kroozr, wine doesn't support cubase...
[01:49] <novato_br> how can I get start compiz fuzion instalation  ?
[01:49] <knifeprty> before my old pc fucked up i used to have slackware
[01:49] <crolle17> so i have to virtualize it.
[01:49] <rambo3> !find xen
[01:49] <ubotu> Found: libxen3.0, libxen3.0-dev, autopkgtest-xenlvm, gtk-engines-xenophilia, libc6-xen (and 102 others)
[01:49] <icecrash2k> hi @ all
[01:49] <Margrave> hi
[01:49] <stefg> !effects | novato_br
[01:49] <ubotu> novato_br: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects