[02:55] <PirateHead> lucciolina: on my computer, it's only finding folders and stuff... it is strange. For example, it doesn't find a code file called KotO.c in my home directory, which is certianly something I might want to find. It's probably possible to configure Beagle somehow or other to find things differently, so I'll be looking into it.
[02:55] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: if you configure apache to run at port 8080, does it work?
[02:55] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, works with localhost, <IP_ADDRESS> (port 80)
[02:56] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: from other computers in your local network?
[02:56] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, yes, local works _prefectly_ without any additional config - its the same the LAMP install configd
[02:56] <eyeonus> I was hoping someone could connect to my system and find out what's wrong first hand.
[02:57] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: by LAMP you mean friends of apache's llamp?
[02:58] <predaeus> !find matypes.h
[02:58] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, by LAMP I mean you can choose the LAMP install during 6.10 server which installs apache2 php5 and mysqlxx by default, and all configured
[02:58] <lgk> Hello im trying to install Ubuntu (from text mode) but when it tries to start the partitioner it says "Device /dev/sdb/ has a logical sector size of 2048" and then the installer doesnt get further than that..
[02:58] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: stupid question, but i assume you restarted apache once you changed the settings right?
[02:59] <Bonez56> lHck, it still is saying "error 22; no such partition"
[02:59] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, ofc, as I told you its working on 443 :). changed the server 10 minutes ago to try out and ports 80 and 993 are opened for sure
[02:59] <lHck> http://www.openbg.net/sto/os/xml/grub.html#multiboot
[02:59] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, only this ubuntu blocks it for some reason (totally same firewall script, ports opened)
[02:59] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: did it happen once you used upgraded the kernal?
[02:59] <lHck> Bonez56, get clear what's the hd number of your disks, where is the kernel, and set it correctly.
[03:00] <Bonez56> lHck, but I can not set it... grub will not listen to me
[03:00] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: did it happen once you upgraded the kernal?
[03:00] <Bonez56> lHck, linux is installed on /dev/sda3, but i can not tell it to boot from that
[03:00] <timbo8> hi everyone, cna i have some help installing abyss webserver?
[03:00] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, no its broken from default (the fresh install is not working). the old upgraded one perfect
[03:00] <timbo8> also, i need some help with panels
[03:00] <levander> Doesn't google report browser market share stats by platform somewhere?  I thought it was part of their zeitgeist stuff, but I just looked and it wasn't in there.
[03:00] <lHck> Bonez56, maybe try mount and chroot and run the grub ?
[03:01] <timbo8> i would appreciate some help with panels first
[03:01] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: maybe you installed (by accident) some other programs that uses the port 80?
[03:01] <Bonez56> lHck, ok i will try that
[03:01] <timbo8> ok, this is my situation
[03:01] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, 8080 not working but I know why, its blocked by central (provider called Sulinet - you have to ask for each port to open)
[03:01] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: have you tried changing the ftp port to port 80, just to see whether apache is the problem?
[03:02] <timbo8> i added a new panel and deleted an old one, but now, the panel i made wont display the little icon for some programs i have running (eg Amorok) so now i cant stop it
[03:03] <timbo8> and i ahve added the right pabel (i think)
[03:03] <timbo8> panel*
[03:03] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, I doubt I install any other app that using port 80, its almost a clean install with updates - no, only tried to run the Apache on port 443 (and courier-imaps). Both working fine on 443 and fails to work on their original port. Let me check this FTP thing
[03:03] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: right click -> add to panel -> window list
[03:03] <timbo8> is that the only one?
[03:03] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: yes, i believe so
[03:04] <timbo8> hmm, it doesnt show Amorok
[03:04] <timbo8> i have put in notification area, but that isnt working either
[03:04] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: usually, you have to resize the window list
[03:04] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: try sudo killall gnome-panel
[03:05] <timbo8> oh, i already ahve a windows list, its jsut the program doesnt appear there
[03:05] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi: ok, ill try that now
[03:05] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi: thanks, that worked
[03:05] <timbo8> !!!
[03:05] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: then if the panel doesn't restart, type gnome-panel
[03:06] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi: thanks a lot
[03:06] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: sure :)
[03:06] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, FTP runs at port 80 now, cant access from outside. nmap cant see that opened either
[03:06] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, its like this ubuntu is blocking port 80 and 993 for some reason to outside :S
[03:06] <eyeonus> Anyone have any ideas for fixing grub I haven't tried yet?
[03:07] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: i seriously think it's a firewall problem. outside do you mean in your LAN or outside from the internet?
[03:07] <timbo8> ok, does anyone here run abyss webserver? because i need help setting it up
[03:07] <Bonez56> what other text editors are available in a recovery shell other than nano and vi
[03:07] <crdlb> Bonez56, what else would there be?
[03:07] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, internet. the server is 280km away from me
[03:07] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: why not apache? or lighttpd?
[03:07] <Bonez56> crdlb, i dont know but neither of them work properly l,they dont format the text and scrolling is fucked
[03:08] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi: i use abyss on my windows XP, so i thought i should use it on this because i am familiar with it
[03:08] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: wow! try check the router, see if its routig port 80 to your server correctly
[03:08] <crdlb> Bonez56, language, but can you be more specific about the problem?
[03:09] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: it seems that its not in ubuntu repositories. build from source?
[03:09] <crdlb> Bonez56, I know that nano is recommended to be run as: nano -w
[03:09] <lgk> does anyone know alot about harddrives? having problems installing ubuntu
[03:09] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, yes it is because my father switched this server to the old one 20 mins ago, and the old apache was working perfectly
[03:09] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi: i'd rather jsut install it easily
[03:10] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: tuff luck dude, even the original server (http://www.aprelium.com/abyssws/download.php) only serve sources for linux. no binaries
[03:10] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi: i am trying lighttpd now
[03:10] <ss374>   .
[03:10] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi: so does that mean i cant use abyss?
[03:10] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: good luck with that!
[03:10] <Bonez56> crdlb, "Error 22: no such partition" grub error
[03:10] <eyeonus> Well I'll be back if the current suggestions don't work.
[03:11] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: yes, but you have to build from source
[03:11] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: thinking....
[03:11] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: ok, i have just installed through package manager, now how do i run it?
[03:12] <zulfajuniadi_> lighttpd, if im not mistaken, if that doesn't work, try httpd
[03:12] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, I was thinking about the firewall problem aswell but its very strange that it shows opened and SMTP and imap just working fine - btw just realised that ifconfig -a have this: 'sit0      Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4' - can it be the prob?
[03:12] <zulfajuniadi_> no, i wouldn't think so, that's just encapsulation of ipv6 in v4. it shouldn't have anything to do with open ports
[03:13] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: does it come with php built in?
[03:14] <lucifiel> !crontab
[03:14] <lucifiel> hmmm
[03:15] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: if you want php intergration, cgi, perl and all goodies, with minimal effort, try this, http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[03:15] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: ok, thanks, but when i go "localhost", and apache page comes up
[03:16] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: do you have ANY other firewall(s) installed? maybe running as background service?
[03:16] <timbo8> an apache page*
[03:16] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, no, its just a small script editet by me which autorunning in rc2.d - thats all - nothing that should hurt
[03:17] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: stop the apache service
[03:17] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_:how do i do that? (sory if i sound like a noob)
[03:17] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: removing the script and restart?
[03:17] <pokingfun> hello
[03:17] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: apache 1 or 2?
[03:17] <lucifiel> eh does anyone here know how i can find out what're all the cronjobs that're running? also any chance of doing that with GUI ? =/
[03:18] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, total same - 80 and 993 seems closed
[03:18] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: it should say in your localhost
[03:18] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_:im not sure.. the latest one
[03:18] <zulfajuniadi_> try sudo apache2 -k stop
[03:18] <atoponce> the new launchpad beta looks nice
[03:19] <Oliver> <-lucifel less /etc/crontab
[03:19] <dj-fu> Lucifel: crontab -e <user>
[03:19] <dj-fu> also, ls /etc/cron.*/
[03:19] <pokingfun> could somebody arrange there codenames for me: breezy, hoary and worty?
[03:19] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: does XAMPP have apache, php, mysql etc?
[03:19] <Ubuntu_noob> mount partition
[03:19] <dj-fu> timbo8: yea, it's got all that
[03:19] <pokingfun> which is the first?
[03:19] <lucifiel> oh okay thanks guys :)
[03:19] <timbo8> ok, thanks
[03:19] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: yes, all preinstalled
[03:19] <timbo8> but i dont see why apache is running...
[03:20] <dj-fu> warty->hoary->breezy->dapper->edgy->feisty
[03:20] <Oliver> Problems compiling htdig on
[03:20] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: remove it
[03:20] <pokingfun> ty
[03:20] <timbo8> just delete the etc/apache folder?
[03:20] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: no, from synaptic
[03:20] <SlimeyPete> nonono, never do things like that. Always use Synaptic or apt-get or Adept to remove things if possible.
[03:21] <kr0n1x> hi, what is the default software to view pictures in Ubuntu?
[03:21] <timbo8> ok, sorry to sound stupid, im just new to this
[03:21] <kr0n1x> i've erased it, and i would reinstall it now
[03:21] <goomie> how do I mount a mac formatted floppy disk??
[03:21] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: blanko... seriously
[03:21] <kr0n1x> but i don't remember the name...
[03:21] <SlimeyPete> timbo8: synaptic will ensure that all files/links are removed correctly
[03:21] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: yes, been there :D
[03:22] <fransman> how do i apt-get nvu in feisty ?
[03:22] <timbo8> in synapptic, do i just search for apache then unselect it?
[03:22] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: yes
[03:22] <timbo8> ok, thanks
[03:22] <Oliver> Problems compiling htdig on Linux susi 2.6.15-28-server   configure: error: To compile ht://Dig, you will need a C++ library. Try installing libstdc++. did installed libstdc++6-dev any suggestions?
[03:22] <zulfajuniadi_> fransman: enable all repos then search in synaptiv
[03:22] <zulfajuniadi_> fransman: enable all repos then search in synaptic
[03:22] <fransman> zulfajuniadi_: i did
[03:22] <lucifiel> oh dear this is oh so confusing :( i'm actually trying to figure out whether it's a cron job that's shutting down Ubuntu.
[03:23] <zulfajuniadi_> sudo apt-cache search nvu?
[03:23] <milan> hey i get errors when running "make all" for my Ralink RT61 drivers... :S
[03:23] <fransman> zulfajuniadi_: take a look here
[03:23] <milan> under feisty
[03:23] <atoponce> kr0n1x: eye-of-gnome
[03:23] <atoponce> kr0n1x: 'eog' in the terminal
[03:23] <kr0n1x> thanks atoponce
[03:23] <atoponce> np
[03:23] <fransman> zulfajuniadi_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=nvu&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[03:24] <fransman> it's not there
[03:24] <freeware_xp> hey room
[03:24] <Hidan> oh well... if i can't figure out the issue, i guess it's back to WinXP.
[03:24] <dj-fu> pwned by lack of adventurism
[03:24] <freeware_xp> hidan whats the question?
[03:24] <binfalse> hey
[03:24] <dj-fu> figuring out the issue != being spoon fed, also
[03:24] <Durtro> Hi
[03:24] <Durtro> tell me
[03:24] <binfalse> not sure
[03:25] <goomie> are mac floppys the HFS filesystem?
[03:25] <zulfajuniadi_> fransman: yes, it seems that no nvu
[03:25] <dj-fu> yes, or hfs+
[03:25] <timbo8> ok, i am removing it now
[03:25] <timbo8> and then it wont appear when i go to "localhost?"
[03:26] <Hidan> freeware_xp : well, something's causing Ubuntu to shut down. Could be a faulty onboard lan chip or even a cronjob(someone told me to read up about crontab)
[03:26] <dj-fu> I doubt it's a cronjob.
[03:26] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: apache2 -k stop
[03:26] <freeware_xp> I tried a ubuntu distro called "linux mint" its live and a cd install cd, man it worked nice and had the ubuntu software package installer with over 20 000 packages, very nice
[03:26] <dj-fu> Does it shut down (goes through the init script "Ubuntu is shutting down" etc)
[03:26] <timbo8> thankyou zulfajuniadi
[03:26] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: np
[03:27] <dj-fu> or does it just die?
[03:27] <dj-fu> if it dies, it's not a cronjob
[03:27] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi: i get an error
[03:27] <freeware_xp> hidan i would try a different flavour, like mint
[03:27] <timbo8> root@tim-desktop:~# apache2 -k stop
[03:27] <timbo8> bash: apache2: command not found
[03:27] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: yes.
[03:27] <Ind[y] > Terminal, Home Folder, and Computer start *very* slowly. Why? How can I fix this?
[03:27] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: if just apache?
[03:27] <Hidan> freeware_xp : oh i see, but why?
[03:27] <dj-fu> Ind[y] : welcome to Ubuntu
[03:28] <atoponce> timbo8: /etc/init.d/apache2 -k stop
[03:28] <timbo8> ulfajuniadi_: ok, ill try that
[03:28] <Ind[y] > dj-fu: No, this started to happen since a random boot.
[03:28] <ada`ubuntu> Ind[y] , are you sure your hard drive is healthy?
[03:29] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: i am told that there is no such directory
[03:29] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: dont you need to restart your system when you uninstall programs?
[03:29] <zulfajuniadi_> you have uninstalled apache right? just restart it
[03:29] <freeware_xp> hidan every flavour is different, different drivers etc, it might just be a driver issue, hey mint is a live / install cd, so you try before install
[03:29] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: no, usually no
[03:29] <atoponce> timbo8: no. only for a kernel update
[03:30] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: well, apache has left behind it's index page
[03:30] <timbo8> woudl that be it?
[03:30] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: no, try this system -> administration -> services
[03:31] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: done
[03:31] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: stop apache/apache2/lighttpd/httpd
[03:31] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: none of those are there
[03:31] <zulfajuniadi_> if you http://localhost is apache still there?
[03:31] <milan> hi i get these errors while compiling drivers for my ralink RT61 chip http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13508/
[03:32] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: yes it is
[03:32] <freeware_xp> i've tried fedora a lot of times and my feelings on it is thats its over sized, 4 cd+ and linux mint is just as good , if not better
[03:32] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: try this system -> administration -> system monitor
[03:32] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: try finding it in processes
[03:32] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: done
[03:33] <ALL4N> hi everyone. I want to connect to my work VPN but am not able to find a decent client for linux for this VPN, so I was thinking of letting my laptop have the VPN client running and sharing that connection with Ubuntu. Does anyone have any experience with using a windows computer as gateway for their linux box?
[03:33] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: nope, none are there
[03:33] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: seriously?
[03:33] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: yes
[03:33] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: this is weird
[03:34] <rickcr> what's a good app to use to stream audio from http://www.shoutcast.com ? The default choice in firefox is for rhythmbox... but clicking to allow it to open in that application never seems to do anything. I don't see the url even trying to be played.
[03:34] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: last resort... restart. lol
[03:34] <ALL4N> I tried just sharing the VPN connection on the laptop(with windows) and setting it as gateway on my desktop but it did not work..
[03:34] <timbo8> ok, i will brb
[03:34] <zulfajuniadi_> ok
[03:34] <Solive> I've noticed that there is desktop and server for ubuntu.  Is there a combination of the two?
[03:34] <zulfajuniadi_> Solive: yes, you can install server thingis in desktop
[03:34] <SlimeyPete> Solive: you can just install one of them and then install the appropriate packages to meet your needs
[03:35] <compilerwriter> all4n I connect to my box all the time via M$
[03:35] <zulfajuniadi_> SlimeyPete: i think he should go with gui first, then install server
[03:35] <SlimeyPete> Solive: they're the same OS - they just have different packages installed by default
[03:35] <SlimeyPete> zulfajuniadi_: yeah, that'd be best
[03:35] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: do you do the same way as I described?
[03:35] <Hidan> freeware_xp : okay however, i really don't know if it's worth all the effort. =/ i seem to be getting even more problems now.  *sighs*
[03:36] <angelo92> :)
[03:36] <ada`ubuntu> rickcr, so far I found ONE application thats handleing shoutcast streams well under ubuntu - app called 'mpg123'
[03:37] <ada`ubuntu> rickcr, it has no GUI, but working at least :)
[03:37] <timbo8> ok, im back
[03:37] <Solive> ok thnx
[03:37] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: isn't there like an xmms plugin that can handle shoutcast?
[03:37] <timbo8> and now when i go localhost i get an erro "cant be found"
[03:37] <zulfajuniadi_> yes timbo8
[03:37] <compilerwriter> ALL4n I connect to my box via a windows machine on my home network.   Are you trying to connect to a M$ box or a linux one.
[03:37] <timbo8> which is good XD
[03:37] <rickcr> ok ill try that...  have you tried this (found googling) vlc http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/category/media/
[03:37] <zulfajuniadi_> nice timbo8, nw u can install xamoo
[03:37] <timbo8> ok, cool
[03:37] <timbo8> i will download it now
[03:37] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, tried it but not working for me and lot reported not working at forums - dont like XMMS tho :)
[03:37] <timbo8> but, im going to bed now
[03:38] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: I am trying to connect to my work VPN. Its not only the computer but the whole network. There are some intranet sites for instance that I want access to
[03:38] <timbo8> its 11.37 pm here in Aus
[03:38] <Nikolas> amaroK plays shoutcast
[03:38] <Solive> Now is there way to do stuff offline and get all packages needed on install CD
[03:38] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: hehe, still 10 here in Malaysia =D
[03:38] <compilerwriter> all4n rdesktop didn't work for you?
[03:38] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: well, im on school holidays so it doesnt matter much
[03:38] <SlimeyPete> Solive: yes, but I forget what it's called. Hang on.
[03:38] <freeware_xp> rickcr   try this   http://www.lyra.org/pipermail/neon/2006-February/002182.html
[03:39] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: does XAMPP install easily?
[03:39] <zulfajuniadi_> Solive: maybe the dvd is for you?
[03:39] <IMYojimbo> i have intel graphic card, u think i need aglx?
[03:39] <timbo8> do i need to assemble code or anything?
[03:39] <rickcr> can i set a proxy for it to use as well for mpg123?
[03:39] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: real easy...
[03:39] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: ok, thanks for your help
[03:39] <timbo8> could i have an email address in case i need any more help?
[03:39] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: or an msn address
[03:39] <ada`ubuntu> rickcr, dont know, check google for more info I guess
[03:40] <krampo> hello, has anyone had a problem with printing from default picture viewer and getting solid black sheet of paper? If  I insert picture into openoffice, it prints ok.
[03:40] <zulfajuniadi_> i have yahoo<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:40] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: I don't need access to my computer at work. I want to be able to surf my work network from my linux box
[03:40] <SlimeyPete> Solive: I think there are jigdo images available for Ubuntu, but I don't know where to find them
[03:40] <ALL4N> I don't like working through VNC  :p
[03:40] <timbo8><EMAIL_ADDRESS>ok, thanks
[03:40] <timbo8> i might be intouch, maybe not
[03:40] <ada`ubuntu> How can I check that what groups are a user in? hehe forgot it :)
[03:41] <Solive> Or what I mean is can I get Ubuntu with everything on DVD, including devel.
[03:41] <Ind[y] > Since a random boot, Terminal, Home Folder and Computer load very slowly. Also, the Metacity window manager loads very slowly and the "window" that displays what loads at login (Metacity, The Panel, Nautilus) disappears after a long time. What can I do? Any ideas? Some help, please?
[03:41] <ALL4N> since I bring my work computer(the laptop) to home every night I would like to use it as a gateway to my work network, so I can surf it from my linux box
[03:41] <Ind[y] > Since a random boot, Terminal, Home Folder and Computer load very slowly. Also, the Metacity window manager loads very slowly and the "window"
[03:41] <Ind[y] > that displays what loads at login (Metacity, The Panel, Nautilus) disappears after a long time. What can I do? Any ideas? Some help, please?
[03:41] <SlimeyPete> Solive: check out http://nginyang.uvt.nl/
[03:41] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: what is your name? i am tim
[03:41] <ada`ubuntu> Ind[y] , does your hard drive working well? Any service that eating proctime badly? (check with 'top')
[03:42] <zulfajuniadi_> zulfa
[03:42] <compilerwriter> I see what you are getting at all4n I am googling.
[03:42] <zulfajuniadi_> :D
[03:42] <drcode> hi all
[03:42] <timbo8> ok, thanks zulfa
[03:42] <zulfajuniadi_> np tim,
[03:42] <drcode> I have problem installing nvidia
[03:42] <Ind[y] > ada`ubuntu: proctime is ok
[03:42] <dooglus> Ind[y] : try switching to a virtual console and killing 'esd'.  does that speed it up?
[03:42] <Ind[y] > hard drive, I don't know
[03:42] <timbo8> ok, good night everyone
[03:42] <lucifiel> sorry i restarted
[03:42] <Ind[y] > how can I check?
[03:42] <drcode> after I install the driver in xorg.conf and boot , I get black screen
[03:42] <Ind[y] > w8
[03:42] <timbo8> *Bye everybody!*
[03:42] <Ind[y] > virtual console = terminal?
[03:42] <timbo8> *bye doctor Tim!*
[03:42] <drcode> I have laptop with geforce 6100
[03:42] <compilerwriter> all4n what kind of vpn are we talking about perchance.
[03:43] <dooglus> Ind[y] : control-alt-F1 is a virtual console.  alt-f7 takes you back to your desktop
[03:43] <zulfajuniadi_> Ind[y] : is the original terminal alt+ctrl+f1 functioning normally?
[03:43] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: not entirely sure..  the client I use is AT&T networking client
[03:43] <Ind[y] > zulfajuniadi_: what do you mean functioning normally? of course it does
[03:44] <Ind[y] > dooglus: Oh, a console (the term "virtual" confused me)
[03:44] <ooglaboogla> can anyone tell me how to find out what filesystem (ext2, ext3, reiserfs, ufs, etc) is on a partition ? fdisk -l shows the partition in question as Linux type 83, i believe it to be UFS made by bsd how can i confirm this
[03:44] <rickcr> thanks all for the different suggestions. trying them out now.
[03:44] <zulfajuniadi_> Ind[y] : i mean does it take a while to change terminal to gui vice versa?
[03:44] <dooglus> Ind[y] : a console is a physical terminal connected to your computer.  alt-f1 through alt-f6 are virtual consoles, since they're not physically real
[03:44] <compilerwriter> all4n:  Let me see if I have this correct.  Your work computer, your laptop, has access via vpn to the work intranet.  You want to surf the intranet from the console on your linux box.
[03:45] <sogen> #ubuntu-pl
[03:45] <Ind[y] > zulfajuniadi_: no
[03:45] <zulfajuniadi_> dooglus: thanks for sharing that with us dooglus,
[03:45] <Ind[y] > dooglus: ok
[03:45] <Ind[y] > How do I kill esd?
[03:45] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: yepps, thats how I want it.
[03:45] <Ind[y] > I don't find it with ps -aux
[03:45] <dooglus> Ind[y] : "pkill -9 esd"
[03:45] <Ind[y] > thx
[03:45] <IMYojimbo> i have intel graphic card, u think i need aglx?
[03:46] <dooglus> Ind[y] : strange.  are you running GNOME?
[03:46] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: I am not intending to surf from the console though  :p
[03:46] <Ind[y] > dooglus: yes
[03:46] <Ind[y] > killed esd
[03:46] <Ind[y] > *slightly* faster
[03:46] <compilerwriter> all4n: I am not sure how to do that precisely; but I have an idea.
[03:46] <Ind[y] > what is esd?
[03:46] <dooglus> Ind[y] : it's a sound daemon
[03:47] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: shoot, I'm all open for suggestions
[03:47] <dooglus> Ind[y] : is the problem you have only at startup?  or all the time?
[03:47] <Solive> thnx
[03:47] <compilerwriter> all4n: you can fire up a browser on your laptop at home and surf your works intranet correct?
[03:47] <_aricz> What kind of text-/graphicsmode is the console ? (ctrl+alt+f1).. and how do I change it? :)
[03:47] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: yes
[03:47] <Ind[y] > dooglus: Terminal, Home Folder and Computer all the time load slow
[03:47] <aj_> I have been having problems while logging into yahoo with fire fox, it will just close down, so I instaled moe to install "PSM' I can not find this anywhere any help would be awesomezzila browser last night and it gave me the messag
[03:48] <Ind[y] > at startup, the "what-is-loading-at-boot" window disappears after a long time
[03:48] <compilerwriter> What you may have to do is rsh into your laptop from the linux box and then fire up a browser on it the contents of which are displayed on your *nix box.
[03:50] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: hmmm.. it would still have some lag
[03:50] <Ind[y] > dooglus: may mysqld slow things down?
[03:50] <digitalspaghetti> hey folks, does Ubuntu come with a standard mail server?  i am developing applications on my local desktop and i need to be able to send email through PHP
[03:50] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: it would be better with same access on my ubuntu box to the vpn as my laptop has
[03:50] <digitalspaghetti> but it doesn't seem to work out the box
[03:50] <dooglus> Ind[y] : only if the database is busy
[03:50] <Shamrock_hh> digitalspaghetti: exim4, sendmail postfix all do that function
[03:50] <Ind[y] > dooglus: It isn't.
[03:51] <zulfajuniadi_> digitalspaghetti: check this out : http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[03:51] <digitalspaghetti> i thought sendmail and exim4 were on here
[03:51] <compilerwriter> all4n: I agree with you completely, but without knowing what sort of vpn you are dealing with getting a vpn client configured on *nix is a crap shoot.
[03:51] <Shamrock_hh> digitalspaghetti:  but you have to configure them to use a smart relay
[03:51] <digitalspaghetti> ahh, ook
[03:51] <digitalspaghetti> well i'll have a look at these docs
[03:51] <Shamrock_hh> digitalspaghetti: *might* have to.
[03:51] <Shamrock_hh> digitalspaghetti: postfix is supposed to be better
[03:52] <inatel> tem algum brasileiro ai??
[03:52] <dooglus> Ind[y] : what if you run "gnome-terminal" from a terminal window?  does that open quickly?  and if not, how long (in seconds) does it take?
[03:52] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: hmm.. I understand that. You don't think its possible to share the VPN on the laptop and use it as a gateway to the VPN for the ubuntu box though?
[03:52] <inatel> tem algum brasileiro ai??
[03:52] <razo1> ALC880
[03:52] <digitalspaghetti> ahh, looking at that it might just be quicker to put on to a remote server and test then :/
[03:52] <digitalspaghetti> thanks anyway folks
[03:53] <Ind[y] > dooglus: w8 please
[03:53] <razo1> How do i run an executable file as root user?
[03:53] <Bluedog> Is there a way to make MS Office 2007 run under ubuntu?
[03:53] <Ind[y] > dooglus: 15-17 seconds
[03:53] <Bluedog> Wine doesnt seem to support it..
[03:53] <xtknight> Bluedog: Wine can/will eventually
[03:54] <xtknight> razo1: sudo <cmd>
[03:54] <dooglus> Ind[y] : what if you run "xterm" instead of "gnome-terminal"?
[03:54] <Bluedog> 2003/2007 both show as 'garbage' on app db currently :(
[03:54] <compilerwriter> all4n:  let me see if I can figure out the vpn stuff from the web.  I honestly don't know how one would do the share the vpn thing.  It is probably possible, but I am not the person who has that answer.  I am just doing my best to come up with another solution.
[03:54] <xtknight> razo1: rathher, sudo "./file"
[03:54] <concept10> Anyone know if I could remove the package locales on a -server install safely?
[03:54] <xtknight> Bluedog give them some time or use cedega
[03:54] <razo1> like sudo "./home/desktop/hereisthefile"  ???
[03:54] <xtknight> concept10 is there a particular reason youd want to
[03:54] <Bluedog> xtknight: does cedega do office?
[03:55] <xtknight> razo1: no not ./ if specifying the whole path.  . means current dir
[03:55] <razo1> ok
[03:55] <razo1> thanks
[03:55] <razo1> now i get it :)
[03:55] <concept10> xtknight: I speak english only, im trying to get the most minimum system that works
[03:55] <xtknight> Bluedog: or the other one.  transoffice or something.  i cant remember
[03:55] <hidan> xtknight: wow, you're still here?!
[03:55] <kishore> i am gettting an error at login--no servers mentioned in configaration file, so a default server is started for you
[03:55] <freakynl> is ubuntu blocking ctrl+c or something over ssh? :P have started several apps remote over SSH and can't break out of any of them with ctrl+c
[03:55] <xtknight> concept10: localepurge u can try maybe
[03:55] <Ind[y] > dooglus: same
[03:55] <xtknight> hidan: sure im here off and on.
[03:56] <dooglus> Ind[y] : xterm takes 15 seconds to start up?
[03:56] <freakynl> strange thing is, breaking out of for loops etc works fine
[03:56] <Ind[y] > dooglus: yes
[03:56] <dooglus> Ind[y] : which version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:56] <Ind[y] > dooglus: Edgy Eft
[03:56] <Ind[y] > 6.10
[03:57] <dooglus> Ind[y] : this reminds me of a bug I raised 18 months ago
[03:57] <hidan> xtknight: hey can i ask you a question? since i seem to be getting more and more problems(again!), people've advised me to try a different flavour. Or, should i just go back to WinXP?
[03:57] <xtknight> xterm or gnome-terminal?>
[03:57] <dooglus> Ind[y] : the 15 seconds delay is indicitive of a bad bookmark.  do you have any bookmarks in nautilus?
[03:57] <Ind[y] > dooglus: btw, the command "mysqld" is the same as /etc/init.d/mysql start?
[03:57] <Ind[y] > dooglus: bookmark?
[03:57] <Ind[y] > dooglus: bookmarks?
[03:57] <xtknight> hidan: which problems
[03:57] <dooglus> Ind[y] : /etc/init.d/mysql will check whether it's already running, and run it with the correct flag
[03:57] <xtknight> !ask | hidan
[03:57] <ubotu> hidan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:58] <Ind[y] > dooglus: ok. what do you mean bookmarks?
[03:58] <dooglus> Ind[y] : in nautilus, the 5th menu along the top is 'bookmarks'
[03:58] <Ind[y] > yes
[03:58] <dooglus> Ind[y] : do you have any?
[03:58] <Ind[y] > no
[03:58] <xtknight> wipe home folder prefs for nautilus maybe
[03:59] <xtknight> ~/.nautilus ?
[03:59] <hidan> xtknight: lol... well, i'm not sure if you were the one who asked me to look up a crontab. Well, about 20 mins ago, syslog keeps spitting out plenty of error messages. let me find them. And also, I can't seem to access "Disks" anymroe from System.
[03:59] <Ind[y] > xtknight: sorry?
[03:59] <dooglus> Ind[y] : if you run "strace xterm", you'll see a bunch of stuff scroll up the screen
[03:59] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: thats all right, thanks anyways. I am looking on the web myself
[03:59] <dooglus> Ind[y] : but after a while it'll slow down.  what's the last line while it's being slow starting?
[03:59] <xtknight> hidan: nope havent said anything about cron.  k pastebin syslog,  preferably klog (dmesg) actually.  it's easier to read
[04:00] <hidan> !pastebin
[04:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:00] <xtknight> Ind[y] : wait, so bash is taking long to load? or xterm?
[04:00] <xtknight> go in an xterm and type bash after it loads.  see if that bash command is instantenous
[04:00] <Ind[y] > dooglus: write(4, "\1\1\1\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 16) = 16
[04:00] <Ind[y] > read(4,
[04:00] <robinlinth> guys, I am looking for support for a problem that i have a year now! Yes, a year. The problem is a very slow computer. Upon reinstall, it is snappy and fast, but after a few months it becomes slower and slower. My specs are not bad, so it's not that. Somebody suggested that it could be X. Okay, so, maybe it is X. Can anyone please help me with this problem? Specs: CPU: AMD Athlon 2800+, Videocard: ATI Radeon 9250, RAM: 512MB, HDD: Maxtor
[04:00] <robinlinth> 80GB
[04:00] <xtknight> strace is greek
[04:00] <dooglus> Ind[y] : ok.  what if you do as xtknight asks - just type "bash" - does that give you a new prompt quickly?
[04:01] <xtknight> ltrace can be more helpful imho
[04:01] <Ind[y] > 0.5-1 second delay
[04:01] <crayzee> How do I make a process use just 1 core of my dual core processor?
[04:01] <Ind[y] > so, yes. quickly
[04:01] <dooglus> xtknight: nautilus is slow starting up, too, and that doesn't use bash...
[04:01] <xtknight> crayzee: the keyword is "affinity".  not sure how to do it.  maybe lookup a program called "nice".  "nice" does priority,.
[04:01] <dooglus> xtknight: I'm stuck for any more ideas...
[04:01] <Ind[y] > I think the problem is about Metacity.
[04:02] <xtknight> dooglus: so what happens when you type bash in an xtertm
[04:02] <xtknight> slow?
[04:02] <crayzee> xtknight, thanks
[04:02] <dooglus> xtknight: Ind[y]  has the problem, not me
[04:02] <xtknight> oh sorry i'm confusing you guys's problems
[04:02] <dooglus> xtknight: but he says bash is fast to start up
[04:02] <xtknight> dooglus: what's your issue with nailus?
[04:02] <xtknight> nautilus*
[04:02] <dooglus> xtknight: I don't have an issue
[04:02] <xtknight> oh :)
[04:02] <dooglus> xtknight: I'm just trying to help Ind[y]
[04:02] <Ind[y] > I think everything is Metacity's fault.
[04:02] <xtknight> Ind[y] : nautilus and xterm are slow right?
[04:02] <robinlinth> Can anyone help me with that one?
[04:02] <hidan> xtknight: well, it's uploading now into pastebin.
[04:02] <Ind[y] > But I am not sure.
[04:02] <dooglus> xtknight: I fixed all my ubuntu problems by reformatting the hard disk :)
[04:02] <Ind[y] > xtknight: yes
[04:03] <Levh-i> Selam, Hello!
[04:03] <xtknight> Ind[y]  it could be metacity or gtk.  i wouldnt have any reason to think it's metacity over gtk
[04:03] <robinlinth> Please?
[04:03] <dooglus> xtknight: xterm doesn't use gtk?
[04:03] <Ind[y] > I think, that all started since I added the splash image.
[04:03] <xtknight> metacity just draws your window borders.  gtk is the engine that draws, and additionally it's the basis of many ghnome apps as it handles some low levl calls
[04:03] <Ind[y] > But it just may be coincidence.
[04:03] <xtknight> i dont think xterm uses metacity either but i could be wrong
[04:04] <hidan> xtknight: bah it's taking a long time to send to pastebin. =/
[04:04] <compilerwriter> all4n I have found a white paper that is rendering clues, but honestly you might have to talk to AT&T support to find out which protocols etc.
[04:04] <crimsun> xterm doesn't use gtk, no.
[04:04] <xtknight> hidan you can always try another pastebin
[04:04] <dooglus> xtknight: all windows have their borders drawn by metacity
[04:04] <xtknight> dooglus: in gnome yes
[04:04] <robinlinth> Hello?
[04:04] <hidan> xtknight : huh? where?
[04:04] <StoneNote> robinlinth,  I fix all my problems by rebooting a windows box. j/k.  I've never experienced any severe slowdowns except when some java tries to hijjack firefox, and usually I get a warning about a runaway script and an option to cancel it, which I do. end of problem
[04:04] <hidan> !pastebin
[04:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:04] <sogen> wiehttp://www.maxior.pl/?p=index&id=51332&17
[04:04] <xtknight> dooglus xterm is not a gnome program, though.  if it;s the one i'm thinking of
[04:04] <Ind[y] > But the "loading window" stacks at Metacity for a long time.
[04:04] <StoneNote> robinlinth, run htop and see if you can isolate what is eating up the cpu
[04:04] <compilerwriter> all4n in the mean time the rsh to your laptop is a kludgy thing that I am certain will work.
[04:04] <concept10> How much longer will dapper be supported?
[04:05] <xtknight> Ind[y]  hrm, what do you mean?
[04:05] <zulfajuniadi> robinlinth: just ask ask the question
[04:05] <crimsun> concept10: until june 2009.
[04:05] <robinlinth> StoneNote, Hm.. well, firefox is definetly not the cause here. Even without anything running, it is slow. Well, GNOME is running.
[04:05] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: okay, I'll try that
[04:05] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, okay:
[04:05] <xtknight> hidan i dont know...pastebin.com , rafb.net, etc
[04:05] <robinlinth> guys, I am looking for support for a problem that i have a year now! Yes, a year. The problem is a very slow computer. Upon reinstall, it is snappy and fast, but after a few months it becomes slower and slower. My specs are not bad, so it's not that. Somebody suggested that it could be X. Okay, so, maybe it is X. Can anyone please help me with this problem? Specs: CPU: AMD Athlon 2800+, Videocard: ATI Radeon 9250, RAM: 512MB, HDD: Maxtor
[04:05] <robinlinth> 80GB
[04:05] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: windows support rsh or I need to install something?
[04:05] <xtknight> !repeat | robinlinth
[04:05] <ubotu> robinlinth: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:05] <robinlinth> That's what I said.
[04:05] <Ind[y] > xtknight: When I login, a window appears that shows what is loaded. Right? (Metacity, The Panel, Nautilus)
[04:05] <vali> Hello. Help. How do I make x.org/xfce automatically load the "ro winkeys" keymap ? I do it by writing "setxkbmap ro winkeys" in a terminal, but want it done at startup.
[04:05] <robinlinth> xtknight, I had to repeat, zulfajuniadi said so.
[04:05] <concept10> !dapper
[04:05] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[04:05] <xtknight> robinlinth: that's pretty vague.  maybe disable file indexing (updatedb).  did you try xfce
[04:05] <xtknight> sorry
[04:06] <robinlinth> xtknight, No, i'm in GNOME. Xfce doesn't provide enough features for me
[04:06] <crimsun> win 39
[04:06] <xtknight> Ind[y] : ohh
[04:06] <Ind[y] > dooglus: So, any ideas?
[04:06] <StoneNote> robinlinth, somethings got to be running and eating up the cpu.  htop is a pretyt nice app you can run and minimize. if you machine starts slowing down you can take a look and see what's doing the damage
[04:06] <dooglus> xtknight: I think you're getting confused.  xterm isn't a Gtk app, but if you run it in gnome, metacity will draw borders around it;  the same goes for any app you run in gnome, even KDE apps
[04:06] <xtknight> Ind[y]  the splash screen freezes at metacity?
[04:06] <Underlin3> how do I mount a .img or .iso file to run as a cd???
[04:06] <zulfajuniadi> robinlinth: maybe it's too bloated, checked your free memory lately?
[04:06] <Ind[y] > xtknight: yes
[04:06] <dooglus> Ind[y] : no!  what if you run "xclock"?  fast or slow?
[04:06] <xtknight> dooglus: i suppose i wasnt aware...gtk!=metacity though
[04:07] <Bluedog> If I want to use crossover linux, should I use the debian version?
[04:07] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, Free memory is okay.
[04:07] <compilerwriter> all4n I think there is a client that is compatible with windows remote desktop out there.  You will have to install that.  There was someone else with that issue a while back.  Unfortunately for you, I can't remember the proggy's name.
[04:07] <Snottle> Hey guys, I was wondering is it more difficult than usual to get ubuntu running on a laptop? I just bought my first laptop and it comes preinstalled with Vista, which I have no interest in using at all
[04:07] <dooglus> xtknight: gtk is a toolkit for making apps (widgets, etc) and metacity is a window manager that draws the frames around windows
[04:07] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, I tend not to use heavy programs like Azureus. Cos, like I said, i've been trying to solve this for years now
[04:07] <xtknight> Bluedog if they dont have an ubuntu yea
[04:07] <Underlin3> !info .img
[04:07] <Ind[y] > dooglus: 7-8 seconds
[04:07] <ubotu> Package .img does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[04:07] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: no worries, I'll research it
[04:07] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: thanks anyways
[04:07] <xtknight> dooglus: i had thought that metacity drew the pretty gnome borders only, not the harsh normal X borders.  didnt know
[04:07] <Bluedog> xtknight: thanks, its a .deb anyhow
[04:07] <compilerwriter> sorry I can't be of more use. all4n
[04:07] <zulfajuniadi> robinlinth: processor on idle is at ? %
[04:08] <Underlin3> !info .iso
[04:08] <ubotu> Package .iso does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[04:08] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, minimum 4%, but it is on 18% often
[04:08] <compilerwriter> all4n stay on irc if you can.  If I can somehow jog my memory I will message you.
[04:08] <xtknight> dooglus i really dont think it does.  are you sure xterm is using metacity?  it looks the same when you use metacity and beryl.  it seemed to be independent for me.  xterm deoesnt have any borders that look like metacity themes
[04:08] <robinlinth> and when i move my mouse it's on 25%
[04:09] <zulfajuniadi> robinlinth: examples of slowness?
[04:09] <Underlin3> how do I mount a .img or .iso file??
[04:09] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: sure, I think there might be a linux client I can use, I just did a search on the intranet and a few hits came up
[04:09] <xtknight> Underlin3 for iso, mount -t iso9660 -o loop ./isofile /mnt/point
[04:09] <Ind[y] > xtknight, dooglus: Any suggestion?
[04:09] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, slow respond times, apps don't open as fast as they used to, firefox doesn't respond too fast, all actions go slow, like, you want to open a tab, and it opens a second afterwards.
[04:09] <Underlin3> thanks ill try it:)
[04:09] <Snottle> any opinions at all about the laptop thing?
[04:09] <xtknight> Ind[y]  all i can suggest is that it's something in your home folder ( A hidden settings ~/.* folder)
[04:09] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, It doesn't do what you want to do, on the time you want it do do what you want it to do.
[04:09] <hidan> xtknight: sorry, i'm taking kinda long 'cos there're some nasty issues with firefox. hang on.
[04:10] <aurax> hello
[04:10] <aurax> does anyone knows of a way to create a voip system that uses directly a modem?
[04:10] <xtknight> hidan that's ok im busy
[04:10] <jimmy20013> Hi, I just install Dapper Drake on my box and I am trying to get it to see my agp card but it is not working. Any suggestions?
[04:10] <zulfajuniadi> robinlinth: yeah, that was easy to understand. :D. is it just firefox, or other apps also?
[04:10] <hidan> xtknight: yeah well, firefox seems to be chewing up a lot of cpu and the whole system's lagging.
[04:10] <jimmy20013> *AGP video card
[04:10] <xtknight> hidan big file i gues
[04:10] <Ind[y] > xtknight: Will it help if I empty it?
[04:11] <hidan> xtknight: yeah... it's kinda long...
[04:11] <xtknight> Ind[y]  its not exactly safe.  basically youd have to create anew user acct or risk liosing personal prefs/data
[04:11] <badserii> how to uninstall in ubuntu something that was installed from a package (Opera)?
[04:11] <xtknight> sorry for my keyboara, im on a lapto'
[04:11] <hidan> xtknight: i hope the file sends through.
[04:11] <Ind[y] > xtknight: which directories should I erase (I will take the risk)?
[04:12] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, Other apps also.
[04:12] <newubun> hey guys
[04:12] <newubun> can i get some help with partitioning a dualboot
[04:12] <newubun> ???
[04:12] <xtknight> Ind[y]  alright i hope you know how to use the virtual terminals if gnome fails
[04:12] <Ind[y] > xtknight: :P
[04:13] <zulfajuniadi> do you have beryl or other eye-candies installed robinlinth?
[04:13] <hidan> xtknight: holy moly it's STILL sending lol... oh well, i'll give it another 5 to 10 mins.
[04:13] <xtknight> Ind[y]  rm -rf ~/.gnome* && rm -rf ~/.nautilus && rm -rf ~/.themes && rm -rf ~/.icons && rm -rf ~/.metacity
[04:13] <StoneNote> robinlinth, almost sounds like a windows zombie machine.  while it's pretty rare for your linux box to get hijacked, it's not impossible.  just so you can check it off your list, "apt-get install chkrootkit rkhunter" and make sure next time you run into this situation
[04:13] <xtknight> hidan dont wory bout it
[04:13] <ReTyPe> my package python-uno is broken
[04:13] <newubun> i'm trying to partition a primary drive for a dual boot and it wont let me partition a primary... only logical
[04:13] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, I installed Compiz yesterday, and I disabled it. BUT, it was slow BEFORE i installed Compiz. Just as slow.
[04:13] <newubun> i'm trying to partition a primary drive for a dual boot and it wont let me partition a primary... only logical
[04:13] <robinlinth> StoneNote, Well, I had windows on it for like 3 years or something. It's off my machine now
[04:14] <ReTyPe> newubun: is the drive in use ?
[04:14] <newubun> yes
[04:14] <newubun> i have winxp on it now
[04:14] <Ind[y] > xtknight: looks dangerous. I won't do it :P
[04:14] <StoneNote> robinlinth, I can't see where one would have anything to do with the other
[04:14] <xtknight> Ind[y]  haha
[04:14] <zulfajuniadi> robinlinth: try running, let say firefox, from the terminal, see what warnings and errors are hidden
[04:14] <newubun> any ideas??
[04:14] <xtknight> Ind[y]  create a new user see if it has the same issues
[04:14] <newubun> can i dual boot if i only make it logical?
[04:15] <aurax> does anyone knows of a way to create a voip system that uses directly a modem?
[04:15] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: hmm..  I realise when I read the instructions here that I should be able to connect properly using freeswan and something called agn-dialer
[04:15] <xtknight> logical/primary has nothing to do with dualboot
[04:15] <xtknight> lower level
[04:15] <Jumbola> is there any third party package installer app for edgy? i m new linux user.  can someone help me thanks.
[04:15] <Ind[y] > xtknight: ok. thanks :)
[04:15] <robinlinth> StoneNote, well, maybe it infected some part in my computer while windows was on it.
[04:15] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, alright.
[04:15] <newubun> ok so xtknight if i make a partition logical drive then i can still dual boot from it then?
[04:15] <newubun> is that what your saying?
[04:15] <xtknight> Jumbola third party?  are you looking for something synaptic/apt do not have?
[04:15] <StoneNote> robinlinth, I guess the most important question: are you having this trouble right now? if you are then zulfajuniadi is making a good suggestion. if not then you'll be spinning your wheels
[04:15] <xtknight> newubun absolutely
[04:15] <Gorlis1> Hi, quick question gys - ive accidentally deleted a folder from the lib directory as root
[04:15] <Gorlis1> is their anyhow I can restore it?
[04:15] <xtknight> newubun if you install grub on the mbr.  really old bios may not be able to use >4 primaries
[04:16] <xtknight> i dont know
[04:16] <adamh> Gorlis1: not directly, no. Deleted files are deleted.
[04:16] <quaal> does anyone know about mdadm? my raid array will not remain assembled after a reboot. does anyone know what the problem could be?http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2389651#post2389651
[04:16] <newubun> no no i'm not using grub for bootloader
[04:16] <adamh> Unless you used Nautilus, in which case they'll be in the trash can.
[04:16] <newubun> i'm using ntldr
[04:16] <newubun> windows
[04:16] <robinlinth> StoneNote, My PC is slow as we speak, yes.
[04:16] <xtknight> um
[04:16] <quaal> newubun, bad idea.
[04:16] <Gorlis1> well ive only just deleted it, doesn't it go into a recycling bin?
[04:16] <xtknight> interesting you're in this channel for Windows :PP
[04:16] <erUSUL> Gorlis1: no, no an easy one...
[04:16] <xtknight> bu tit should work
[04:16] <newubun> i've done it before for other distros
[04:16] <newubun> and it worked
[04:16] <erUSUL> Gorlis1: rm is forever
[04:16] <zulfajuniadi> quaal: actually my raid wasn't assembled after updating kernal
[04:16] <xtknight> but it should*
[04:16] <varaonaid> I'm new to ubuntu and have a couple of quick questions.  is edgy upgradeable to feisty?
[04:16] <adamh> Gorlis1: How did you delete the files?
[04:16] <zulfajuniadi> *kernel
[04:16] <adamh> varaonaid: yes
[04:17] <xtknight> varaonaid yes it is.
[04:17] <Jumbola> xtknight:  i have synaptic .. but want to ask is there another one like synaptic? well Apt not working on my pc..
[04:17] <xtknight> !update | varaonaid
[04:17] <Gorlis1> hmm well I was removing a fault game - glest
[04:17] <quaal> zulfajuniadi, i'm on 2.6.17-11-generic
[04:17] <ubotu> varaonaid: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:17] <xtknight> Jumbola that's deadly.  let's fix apt
[04:17] <quaal> zulfajuniadi, i've never updated
[04:17] <Gorlis1> and i deleted it, then accidentally removed another folder
[04:17] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi, breaking news: its working now. after 4 days of reading and googling and testing, I just found that I was forwarding the port80 to 3128 for proxy.... how lame :)
[04:17] <xtknight> Jumbola apt is almost the basis of your system...dangerous if it doesn;'t work
[04:17] <Gorlis1> something "gnome-xxxx"
[04:17] <zulfajuniadi> ada`ubuntu: gaa!!
[04:18] <adamh> Gorlis1: How did you delete it?
[04:18] <Gorlis1> through sudo nautilus
[04:18] <Gorlis1>  :(
[04:18] <Jumbola> xtknight:  i tried to install Apt. but when i select it for install its gave me error in return
[04:18] <newubun> ok so can we conclude this cuz i'm getting mixed messages... Can I or can i not dual boot ubuntu with just a logical drive?? When i'm trying to partiion using qparted i can only create logical drive for some reason... Can i get a final answer to this please?? :(
[04:18] <zulfajuniadi> ada`ubuntu: never thought of that, thanks for sharing ada`ubuntu
[04:18] <adamh> Gorlis1: Then it should be in a Trash can.
[04:18] <varaonaid> ubotu: thanks.  one more question.  when I install, do I get the option to keep the files in my /home partition?
[04:18] <hidan> xtknight: hmmm i think i'll zip up the file and upload the zip somewhere instead. it's obvious the file can't send since it's so huge.
[04:18] <zulfajuniadi> varaonaid: ubotu is a bot
[04:18] <Gorlis1> well, thats what i thought
[04:18] <xtknight> hidan sorry i can't open zips.. im on an ibook :(
[04:18] <xtknight> :P
[04:18] <xtknight> i dont know how at least
[04:18] <Gorlis1> but its not their in my (user) trash can?
[04:18] <bjohan> When i try to install acroread i get a complaint about the architecture (i386) not being supported, obviously im using another arch :) but how do i change it so that the package manager understands?
[04:19] <Gorlis1> how can I view the root trash?
[04:19] <newubun> ???
[04:19] <robinlinth> StoneNote, The rootkit scanners all gave the result: 0
[04:19] <robinlinth> AKA no rootkits found
[04:19] <varaonaid> dumb me, thanks!
[04:19] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi, I copied fwall script from old computer and used transparent proxy there but couldbt be arsed so far to setup squid on this so far. and.. doh. :) *vanishing*
[04:19] <xtknight> Gorlis1: gksu nautilus trash:///\
[04:19] <Askar> How do i run fortune so that it is offensive?
[04:19] <xtknight> without hte \
[04:19] <StoneNote> robinlinth, that's a good thing.
[04:19] <hidan> xtknight: it's okay... i'll try uploading the text file itself then.
[04:19] <zulfajuniadi> ada`ubuntu: so simple ye so complicated :D
[04:19] <Gorlis1> nothing their..
[04:19] <xtknight> Gorlis1 or maybe /root/.trash (with show hidden folders)
[04:20] <newubun> ummmm... so can i dual boot with just a logical partition or not guys?
[04:20] <newubun> or does it have to be primary?
[04:20] <xtknight> newubun either
[04:20] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, Firefox gave no errors.
[04:20] <newubun> xtknight are u sure bro?
[04:20] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi, thanks (and sorry) for your time its me being lame. cya
[04:20] <newubun> this is major surgery here
[04:20] <xtknight> newubun 99%
[04:20] <newubun> lol
[04:20] <newubun> ok
[04:20] <xtknight> no not 100
[04:20] <newubun> just set the boot flag right?
[04:20] <xtknight> with ntldr i dont know
[04:20] <xtknight> ask in a windows chcannel
[04:20] <zulfajuniadi> ada`ubuntu: yes, i lernt something new today, so not-so-lame at all
[04:20] <Gorlis1> lucky puppy
[04:20] <newubun> ok
[04:20] <xtknight> pretty sure grub can
[04:20] <Gorlis1>  - gnome-applets
[04:20] <genii> robinlinth:  I'm pretty certain your general slowing-down issue is related to some stupid little cyclic error whic does not really impact the machine's operation but which does preoccupy it in writing to the logs about it.
[04:21] <Gorlis1> yes thanks, root/trash
[04:21] <Gorlis1> unhid folders
[04:21] <zulfajuniadi> robinlinth: kde or gnome?
[04:21] <robinlinth> genii: /var/messages contains no suspicious messages.
[04:21] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, GNOME
[04:21] <[WaZ] > could be artsd
[04:21] <Askar> How do i run fortune so that it is offensive?
[04:21] <genii> robinlinth Please not how many different files are in that directory /var/log   and how any of them could be the culprit
[04:22] <kane77> Askar, fortune -o
[04:22] <amc> hi. on manual partitioning in 7.04 live cd i get "WINDOWSSYSTEM32CONFIGSYSTEM.LOG is 1k, but it has 215 clusters (1720k)." w/ options - "ignore" and "cancel"
[04:22] <amc> what should i do?
[04:23] <Jumbola> xtknight0: well sorry dude its not Apt. its Adept Manager.  how can i install Apt ? sorry i m new so asking basic questions :<
[04:23] <Gorlis1> anyhow, problem resolved - thanks for the help
[04:23] <xtknight> Jumbola not synaptic but it's apt.  adept is kde's front-end
[04:24] <xtknight> Jumbola apt is already installed.  what's wrong with it?
[04:24] <robinlinth> genii, I don't have any understanding of that directory. Maybe you do, so i made a screenshot of it: http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6994/varlogbj1.png
[04:24] <JBond2> What's the recommended program to compose and edit videos? I'm looking for one which should be simple to use. Only need some basic functionality, such as fade in fade out pictures, and join multiple videos to single one.
[04:24] <JBond2> Please, give me your recommendation.
[04:24] <Jumbola> xtknight:  There is no Apt kinda name anything in system Admistration ? where i can found Apt?
[04:24] <xtknight> kino possibly, JBond2.  bubt i have never used it.  i know it is t
[04:24] <xtknight> it is the only one i know*
[04:24] <zulfajuniadi> robinlinth: try system->administration->system log
[04:25] <bjohan> anyone knows how to change the arch from i386 to the actual?
[04:25] <xtknight> Jumbola apt is a system  componenet.  what are you trying to do?
[04:25] <JBond2> thanks, xtknight.
[04:25] <Aqwis> anyone using a P5B motherboard got the integrated NIC to work with Ubuntu?
[04:25] <xtknight> bjohan actual?
[04:25] <Andeh> Hello
[04:25] <Andeh> I updated firefox
[04:25] <xtknight> Aqwis new marvell chipset huh?
[04:25] <JBond2> anyone more than kino?
[04:25] <Aqwis> realtek chipset
[04:25] <Jumbola> xtknight:  looking for softwares installer like Synaptic
[04:25] <Aqwis> RTL8111B
[04:25] <xtknight> !find cinema
[04:25] <Andeh> Now it often tries to download the page when i click on the link. Seems to only happen with php files.
[04:25] <xtknight> Aqwis ah sorry dont know
[04:25] <Andeh> Anyone know whats going on?
[04:26] <xtknight> Jumbola lol Adept is the synaptic for kde
[04:26] <Aqwis> shows up in Networking and ifconfig etc but dhclient doesn't find any leaves
[04:26] <genii> robinlinth: Please, in the future text pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  would be preferable. for instance to do:   ls -l /var/log                in a konsole/terminal then cut and paste the results there.
[04:26] <ubotu> File cinema found in fortunes-fr
[04:26] <thriller> hi, anyone has experience on using beryl on ATI rv250 card?
[04:26] <Jumbola> xtknight:  hahh well i m using Gnome :S
[04:26] <JBond2> Any video clip manipulate program, other than kino?
[04:26] <robinlinth> genii, Okay, but that list is fine right?
[04:26] <bjohan> xtknight: yes, im not using a 386 computer so i want to be able to install packages which requires more such as acroread, and also optimized binaries if there are such for ubuntu :)
[04:26] <hidan> xtknight: file's uploading now... a few mins left.
[04:26] <xtknight> Jumbola ahaha
[04:26] <genii> robinlinth: The picture quality is such that no text on that shot is readable so it's moot
[04:26] <xtknight> Jumbola what??? synaptic then :P
[04:26] <Jumbola> xtknight:  well dude how can i add some third party repos.. in source file?
[04:27] <xtknight> bjohan you are using an amd64?
[04:27] <Jumbola> xtknight:  ya sorry get it.. what u are saying :)
[04:27] <genii> robinlinth: Yes, thats the list
[04:27] <zulfajuniadi> genii: i can read in his screenshot ok...
[04:27] <xtknight> jumbola oooh... goto Software Sources
[04:27] <dealc> How Do I add a Samba share that is not in my home directory?
[04:27] <genii> zulfajuniadi: Mine must be resizing
[04:27] <Andeh> Has anyone else had this problem? My firefox will often download php pages when i click on a link to them. Never happened before the update.
[04:27] <bjohan> xtknight: dont know really i wanted to go for i686 or something just to get acroread going :)
[04:27] <xtknight> bjohan i doubt it needs a new kernel
[04:27] <robinlinth> genii, In what are you viewing it? I'd zoom in if i were you.
[04:27] <Jubei> guys how do I stop a kernel module that's causing me problems from loading at boot?
[04:27] <zulfajuniadi> genii: zoom in firefox :)
[04:27] <xtknight> !blacklist | Jubei
[04:27] <ubotu> Jubei: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u
[04:27] <robinlinth> genii, It's a png.
[04:28] <Jubei> xtknight: thanks:D
[04:28] <xtknight> dealc edit samba config
[04:28] <dealc> How Do I add a Samba share that is not in my home directory?
[04:28] <bjohan> xtknight: no but the package manager refuses to install acroread because it thinks im using a giant 386 :) i want to tell it otherwise :D
[04:28] <dealc> xtknight: I tried but with no sucess. :(
[04:28] <xtknight> bjohan again i dont think so.  type "sudo apt-get install acroread" then what happens?
[04:28] <xtknight> dealc restart samba init.d service?
[04:29] <Jumbola> xtknight:  well Automatix is suitable for Edgy? can i use it?
[04:29] <xtknight> Jumbola no it's a bad idea
[04:29] <Andeh> So, nobody has this problem??
[04:29] <Jumbola> xtknight:  .. ok.!
[04:29] <xtknight> Jumbola just add some 3rd party repos that you need and  manually apt-get
[04:29] <|Tommy|> some dutch folks arround ?
[04:29] <Andeh> Must be me then. I didnt mess with the settings though.
[04:29] <xtknight> !nl | |Tommy|
[04:29] <ubotu> |Tommy|: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[04:29] <genii> robinlinth: At any rate, info that would be useful for giagnosis is missing. For example, how large the files are. Who owns them. This sort of deal. The command I gave earlier will recursively list out all the files under /var/log plus show exact sizes and owners. So it is more useful
[04:29] <hidan> xtknight: here you go! http://rapidshare.com/files/23976552/syslog.txt
[04:29] <odium> I need a proggie to edit and contribute entries to my LiveJournal.
[04:29] <|Tommy|> ty
[04:29] <robinlinth> gene__, Alright.
[04:29] <genii> diagnosis, not giagnosis
[04:29] <robinlinth> genii: Alright..
[04:29] <bjohan> xtknight: then it appears to work, but why does the gui-stuff not work? allthough i'm used to another distro and ubuntu confuses me a bit :)
[04:30] <genii> LOL
[04:30] <zulfajuniadi> Andeh: does the php file have actual scripts in them, cause that would be cool!
[04:30] <xtknight> haha
[04:30] <bjohan> xtknight: but thanks anyway now i can read my datasheets!
[04:31] <xtknight> bjohan weird.  what happens with "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[04:31] <robinlinth> genii, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13520/
[04:31] <bjohan> xtknight: apt-get works without the -f option
[04:31] <genii> robinlinth: Looking
[04:32] <odium> anyone know an app for Controlling a livejournal?
[04:32] <xtknight> bjohan what happens with the exact cmd i typed
[04:32] <xtknight> ( nothing more ntohing less )
[04:32] <xtknight> nothing after 'instal'
[04:32] <bjohan> xtknight: but can i change the cpu-type som where so that i can get optimized packages? at home i use a source based distro so i just change a few flags in a file, but now i need to use the mouse and stuff :)
[04:32] <zulfajuniadi> odium: gnome-blog
[04:32] <hidan> xtknight: did you get the url ? ^___^
[04:32] <odium> thanks
[04:32] <xtknight> !find kernel | bjohan
[04:32] <ubotu> bjohan: Found: kernel-package, kernel-wedge, klogd, nfs-kernel-server, nvidia-kernel-common (and 73 others)
[04:32] <xtknight> hidan yeah one sec
[04:32] <bjohan> xtknight: sorry, did not read you there
[04:32] <bjohan> xtknight: before
[04:33] <xtknight> bjohan: type "sudo apt-get -f install".  and what happens?
[04:33] <robinlinth> genii, What did you find?
[04:33] <xtknight> bjohan: yes there are 686 and generic kernel packages.  i recommend generic, it autodetects.  386 is juts old
[04:33] <genii> robinlinth:  Well for instance "faillog" seems large
[04:33] <bjohan> xtknight: then it tells me about some old packages that i should remove
[04:33] <xtknight> bjohan: maybe that's why the gui was getting confused
[04:33] <xtknight> bjohan i'd solve package problems first
[04:34] <bjohan> xtknight: wierd bug then :)
[04:34] <xtknight> sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic
[04:34] <xtknight> for a generic kernel
[04:34] <xtknight> !info linux-image-generic
[04:34] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[04:34] <dooglus> xtknight: sorry, I lost my net connection for a while there.
[04:34] <bjohan> xtknight: "apt-get remove pkg1 pkg2" etc?
[04:34] <dooglus> xtknight: you were talking about window borders, and I'm not clear what you mean
[04:34] <xtknight> hidan looks like hard drive problems
[04:34] <NET||abuse> hi all,,, i have a hp nc6000 laptop, ther's a little sd card reader on the side of it, but wondering how i can use it,, anyone have any idea?
[04:34] <dooglus> xtknight: here are the borders I see: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/windows.png  note that gnome-terminal, xterm and xclock all have the same kind of border - they're all drawn by metacity
[04:34] <xtknight> bjohan uhhh i guess
[04:34] <robinlinth> genii, It's binary, i can't read it.,
[04:35] <kenthomson> HELP; When i go to beryl's official site and download a ton of themes from there, and than open the emerald theme manager and "import" the themes one by one, i get "error calling tar" for all the themes, and i can't get any of them installed. Can someone help?/tell me the right way to install it?
[04:35] <trev_> can anyone tell me how to use wget to retreive all files past a certain subdirector on a FTP server?
[04:35] <bjohan> xtknight: apt told me about autoremove :) well now i have to work
[04:35] <Jubei> xtknight: blacklist will just stop them from loading at boot time, right? not prevent them from loading alltogether :)
[04:35] <bjohan> xtknight: thanks again!
[04:35] <xtknight> autoremove removes depends too
[04:35] <trev_> *subdirectory
[04:35] <xtknight> unused automatically downloaded tihngs, rather
[04:35] <NET||abuse> i'm trying to see if it appears anywhere in media or floppy or what.. but i don't know.
[04:35] <genii> robinlinth: The idea here is: examone the dates. Look closer at ones which are being modified today. the second criteria is: How big is the log? How many times has it been rotated? (eg: how many somename.0.gz)
[04:35] <xtknight> Jubei right
[04:35] <xtknight> Jubei just modprobe later
[04:35] <BeniGZL> is there any israelian pepole here?
[04:35] <xtknight> jubei oh wait'
[04:35] <hidan> xtknight: yeah however, i don't seem to have any device called hdc2 or whatever that device seems to be...  also, when i googled for the issue, there was a possibility it was related to the ntfs tools i'd installed.
[04:35] <xtknight> Jubei sorry.  i think it blocks it for good.  im not 100% sure
[04:36] <robinlinth> genii, apport.log.7.gz is the max of apport.log
[04:36] <dealc> I have a problem with my Defalt Gnome login screen, It crashes everytime i restart my computer. What can I do to fix this?
[04:36] <xtknight> Jubei remoev it from blacklist when you need to modprobe? heh
[04:36] <kenthomson> Can someone please do help me?
[04:36] <robinlinth> genii, syslog.6.gz the max of syslog
[04:36] <xtknight> hidan error seems to be on sdb
[04:36] <Jubei> xtknight: that blacklist doesn't exist, I just create it right?
[04:36] <aj_> where do I find a personal security manager for ubuntu 5.1
[04:36] <xtknight> jubei yha
[04:36] <xtknight> ya
[04:36] <dealc> kenthomson: What's your question
[04:36] <wedgeV> when i use NetworkManager to setup a PPTP VPN my /etc/resolv.conf is empty
[04:37] <kenthomson> dealc, HELP; When i go to beryl's official site and download a ton of themes from there, and than open the emerald theme manager and "import" the themes one by one, i get "error calling tar" for all the themes, and i can't get any of them installed. Can someone help?/tell me the right way to install it?
[04:37] <NET||abuse> so anyone have a clue how to get at the sd card reader in my laptop?
[04:37] <xtknight> hidan, those are the msgs i'm concerned about
[04:37] <neozen> meep
[04:37] <hidan> xtknight: hmmm yeah... sdb. i do have some partitions called sda5, sad8, etc.
[04:37] <hidan> xtknight: but nothing under sdb
[04:37] <dealc> kenthomson: You try the defalt theme manager in Ubuntu?
[04:37] <aj_> ! psm
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <xtknight> hidan perhaps a controller problem?  i really have absoultely no idea.
[04:38] <kenthomson> dealc, you don't anything you are talking about, thanks for sounding courteus anyways ;)
[04:38] <aj_> ! personal security manager
[04:38] <genii> robinlinth: Exactly. So then it6 points us to the idea that whatever creates these logs makes many of them and that they are often being rotated. So then we like to look at the last part of the current log for that thing, perhaps something like:      tail apport.log   shows us the end of that one
[04:38] <Andeh> zulfajuniadi: yes, that would be cool. I doubt it does, though. Almost certainly the php output.
[04:38] <Andeh> My question is, though, how do i tell it not to?
[04:38] <dealc> I have a problem with my Defalt Gnome login screen, It crashes everytime i restart my computer. What can I do to fix this?
[04:38] <hidan> xtknight: hmmmm i wonder if this is related to my printer. let me turn it off and see if it stops logging that error. 'cos i know that my printer has some memory card port.
[04:38] <xtknight> hidan i doubt it
[04:38] <xtknight> hidan it's sdb..harddrive related I/o hardwre errors
[04:39] <xtknight> ohh
[04:39] <zulfajuniadi> Andeh: ON every PAGE?
[04:39] <xtknight> hidan it may be.  i thought you meant the printer itself.
[04:39] <robinlinth> genii, The first apport.log is empty. The second has all kinds of complaints about Compiz.
[04:39] <zulfajuniadi> Andeh: oops...caps
[04:39] <Andeh> zulfajuniadi: No. php pages, and some of them.
[04:39] <kenthomson> dealc, Did you recently add any program in Start>Preferences>Session, Autostart program? Than remove it. Else, go to System>Administration>Login Screen and select another one and see if problem persists
[04:39] <hidan> xtknight: well viola the errors stopped. O_o;; oh that's 'cos somehow, that "memory slot" shows up as scsi device even in windows.
[04:39] <genii> robinlinth: This is all sniffing for clues as to what program has some issue that is not obvious since it likely appears to operate fine but is giving some underlying errors which are using a lot of system resources to write about
[04:39] <aj_> Can anyone help me
[04:40] <genii> robinlinth: So, then, see, we are getting ideas now about what is bogging down the entire deal
[04:40] <zulfajuniadi> Andeh: most prolly its the webserver, not your firefox. try mnohd.dyndns.org, see if outputs a php file...
[04:40] <robinlinth> genii, But, the problem was there even before I installed Compiz.
[04:40] <hidan> xtknight: so, i assume that since there's no memory card inserted, ubuntu's trying to access a non-existent "hard disk".
[04:40] <Andeh> Ok. Ill try.  Please note that any of them could be indicating this type of issue I speak of.
[04:41] <wo0lverine> salut
[04:41] <Andeh> zulfajuniadi: well, clicking it again gets it to open normally...
[04:41] <hidan> xtknight: huh? what do you mean by hal? :P
[04:41] <Andeh> Ok its not firefox thats causing it
[04:41] <xtknight> !fr | wo0lverine
[04:41] <ubotu> wo0lverine: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:41] <genii> robinlinth: The most suspect ones I have just shown you how to identify and examine for clues
[04:42] <xtknight> hidan hardware abstract layer, having to do with the kerenl
[04:42] <Andeh> zulfajuniadi: thanks
[04:42] <robinlinth> genii, Xorg.20.log.old is the maximum of Xorg.log
[04:42] <hidan> xtknight: ... .... sorry, let me look that up.
[04:42] <dwright> checking in...is this thing on?
[04:42] <aj_> I found the personal security manager, but I am not able to open an rpm file
[04:43] <neozen> dwright: I believe so ;)
[04:43] <genii> robinlinth: The "tail" command I showed you only shows the last few lines of the file. To get a real idea of the size of these things and what they contain, open one up in a text editor
[04:43] <xtknight> hidan you might have to configure automuont to ignore sdb.  not sure, just a clue
[04:43] <xtknight> automount*
[04:43] <atamyrat> hi, i get following error when i try to run anything uses opengl.
[04:43] <StoneNote> robinlinth, do you have a NetVista M42?
[04:44] <dooglus> xtknight: sorry, I got booted again.  did you reply?
[04:44] <aj_> I am sorry if i am asking dumb questions, but I am a new ubuntu user trying to get away from windows
[04:44] <atamyrat> /usr/games/armagetron.real: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:44] <robinlinth> StoneNote, no, and i don't know what that is.
[04:44] <xtknight> dooglus dont think so.  sorry not sure.  u were the one with the gnome problems?  metaciry..xterm
[04:44] <xtknight> atamyrat sudo apt-get install libgl1
[04:44] <xtknight> !find libgl
[04:44] <ubotu> Found: freeglut3, freeglut3-dev, gle-doc, libgl1-mesa-dev, libgl1-mesa-dri (and 76 others)
[04:44] <rickjones> guys, i have a needy question, whats the command to rename a file ? i gotta return to a bak file and the command escapes me .
[04:44] <neozen> aj_: no worries
[04:44] <hidan> xtknight: geez, okay that's another problem solved lol... =P
[04:44] <xtknight> i've gotta run.  later
[04:44] <dooglus> xtknight: you were telling me about 'pretty' borders and 'plain' ones, whereas they all look the same to me: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/windows.png ;  what is a 'pretty' border?
[04:44] <hidan> xtknight: okay see you later! =)
[04:45] <xtknight> dooglus sorry.  pretty i mean like with a skinned theme
[04:45] <xtknight> xterm afaik doesnt have that
[04:45] <Aaronformchina> Should I install XGL before Compiz on Dapper? Where I can find a Howto? Thanks.
[04:45] <aj_> neozen can you help me I have been having problems with finding a psm personal security manager to install with ubuntu
[04:45] <dejand> re
[04:45] <Slick_> hey guys, I'm new to ubuntu and I'm trying to use a proxy server to access the internet, how do I set that up?
[04:45] <dejand> why cant i export DISPLAY on my fresh install ubuntu
[04:45] <dejand> ?
[04:46] <genii> robinlinth: Note that logs which are large, have been rotated often and have been updated todaymust number at least 20:
[04:46] <dwright> dejand...what error are you gettting?
[04:46] <dooglus> dejand: you can set whatever you want to set
[04:46] <StoneNote> robinlinth, I found a "Sparodically slow system clock" bug which suggests "Boot with the noapic kernel option" as a workaround https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/71023
[04:46] <dooglus> dejand: ubuntu's X server doesn't listen for incoming TCP connections though, if that's what you're asking
[04:46] <jimmy20013> How do I get dual heads to work in Ubuntu?
[04:46] <hectorUbu> hello, just wondering if anyone here know how to activate the Bluetooth on a Acer Aspire 5570 laptop?
[04:46] <robinlinth> StoneNote, I am on a VIA computer, so no.
[04:46] <dooglus> jimmy20013: Zaphod, is that you?
[04:46] <neozen> aj_: with rpm's you have 2 options: 1) if you just want the files out of the thing, open it with Xarchiver, if you want to Install that RPM (the way you would with a debian package from the repositories, 2) convert it with alien
[04:47] <dwright> jimmy...what type of displays ?
[04:47] <neozen> !alien|asj_
[04:47] <ubotu> asj_: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:47] <dwright> both the same resolution or different?
[04:47] <genii> StoneNote: He has more a case of overall slowdown that keeps encroaching until the machine is frustrating to use then he reinstalls
[04:47] <jimmy20013> dooglus:No
[04:47] <robinlinth> genii, You got it.
[04:47] <suryan> hi
[04:47] <StoneNote> gene__, yes, I read his posts. thanks for the recap
[04:47] <jimmy20013> dwright: Onboard video and AGP card for projector
[04:47] <dooglus> jimmy20013: dual heads: http://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Andy/SBHarvest/Harvest00/ZaphodPlaysHitchhikers.gif
[04:48] <neozen> aj_: what is a personal security manager?
[04:48] <StoneNote> genii, , yes, I read his posts. thanks for the recap
[04:48] <aj_> neozen convert it to what
[04:48] <jimmy20013> dooglus: lol
[04:48] <dejand> cannon open display: ip:0
[04:48] <dejand> this is what i get
[04:49] <aj_> mozzila says I need it too login to yahoo and other sites
[04:49] <jimmy20013> dwright: Same resolutions for both
[04:49] <neozen> aj_: with alien you can convert RPM packages (which are usually for redhat-based distros) to .deb packages which are used in debian... and all ubuntu-based distros
[04:49] <robinlinth> genii, StoneNote: Please, join #solveslowdown so we can speak without all the messages scrolling across.
[04:49] <neozen> aj_: but that seems like a big waste of time if you are just looking for a specific kind of program
[04:49] <dwright> ATI...NVIDIA?
[04:49] <genii> robinlinth I have no interest currently in going there
[04:49] <neozen> aj_: what is this psm supposed to do?
[04:50] <neozen> aj_: remember passwords and the like?
[04:50] <robinlinth> genii, StoneNote is there too. C'mon, my Xchat client removes messages by the second so i'll keep missing em if you don't join that channel.
[04:50] <kishore> ubotu, ogle
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <dwright> jimmy20013:ATI? NVIDIA?
[04:50] <jimmy20013> dwright: the AGP card is  S3 Inc. Savage 4 (rev 02) with single head and I want to use that for the projector
[04:50] <dejand> dwright and dooglus  cannot open display (taking about LAN, but this box isnt on dhcp so it doesnt have its hostname)
[04:50] <kishore> ubotu,Ogle
[04:50] <dejand> so i put, export DISPLAY="192....:0"
[04:50] <kishore> ubotu,Ogle
[04:50] <dejand> and run e.g. xeyes
[04:50] <dejand> and get cannon open display
[04:50] <dwright> dejand...try typing xhost + at a terminal prompt
[04:51] <crdlb> !info ogle | kishore
[04:51] <ubotu> kishore: ogle: DVD player with support for DVD menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-5 (edgy), package size 240 kB, installed size 804 kB
[04:51] <aj_> neozen I am not sure I try to login to yahoo and firefox just closes, so I tried a differant browser, mozzila and it gave me the psm message then it closed too
[04:51] <suryan> Could not upgrade the system!
[04:51] <suryan> Fix broken packages first.
[04:51] <genii> robinlinth I've already given you enough of a starting point to begin deducing what is the issue. I'm not going to go thru your logs 1 by 1 and try to decide what is the exact cause. You can do that :)
[04:51] <suryan> means what
[04:51] <robinlinth> genii, Alright.
[04:51] <crdlb> suryan, run: sudo apt-get -f install
[04:51] <jimmy20013> dwright: What do you suggest?
[04:52] <dejand> dwright same
[04:52] <dooglus> dejand: are you trying to display on the ubuntu machine's display?
[04:52] <aj_> neozen this is a 4 day old install of ubuntu 5.1 am just trying to get my feet wet with linux
[04:52] <dejand> nop
[04:52] <dejand> ups
[04:52] <dwright> jimmy20013:I'm not sure I follow..you have a single head card?
[04:53] <sogen> can someone help me?
[04:53] <aj_> neozen and it is making my head work, have been windows dependant for too long
[04:53] <SlimeyPete> sogen: don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[04:53] <dwright> dejand: just for clarity...start over...logout of remote session. open new terminal window...type xhost + then login to remote
[04:53] <jimmy20013> dwright: Yeah because my dual head is not detected. So I am trying to use onboard head and a AGP card with single head. Is that not possible?
[04:53] <cdavis> what command can I use to get a list of installed packages?
[04:53] <dwright> dejand: then export your display and try to launch app
[04:53] <crdlb> cdavis, dpkg -l
[04:53] <cdavis> crdlb, Thanks
[04:54] <sogen> SlimeyPete: my cuputer is stoping
[04:54] <sogen> SlimeyPete: computer*
[04:54] <dwright> jimmy20013....typically, once you install a card in AGP slot, the onboard video is disabled
[04:54] <SlimeyPete> sogen: how do you mean? Is it freezing, or does it give you an error message? What are you trying to make it do?
[04:54] <neozen> aj_: I still don't know what you're looking for when you say psm..... I've never had that behavior in firefox
[04:54] <jimmy20013> dwright:Well I guess then I have to buy a new dual head
[04:54] <batusays> hi
[04:54] <sogen> SlimeyPete: freezing
[04:55] <batusays> who can help me with samba
[04:55] <dejand> okeoj
[04:55] <SlimeyPete> sogen: when does it freeze?
[04:55] <aj_> neozen mozzila gave me the psm message, firefox just closed
[04:55] <dejand> wait please.
[04:55] <dejand> br
[04:55] <dejand> b
[04:55] <jimmy20013> batusays: What do you need?
[04:55] <dwright> anyone else know of a system where onboard will work with AGP card installed?
[04:55] <sogen> SlimeyPete: 5-20 mins after start
[04:55] <sogen> SlimeyPete: here is some log http://wklej.org/id/c1039edb69
[04:55] <dooglus> dwright: has this 'xhost +' ever worked for you in ubuntu?
[04:56] <dwright> dooglus: Yes I use it all the time
[04:56] <bezibaerchen> it has for me too
[04:56] <aj_> neozen dang if you are not sure I guess I have my research cut out for me, better get a bottle of asprin
[04:56] <user_> hi
[04:56] <dooglus> dwright: ok
[04:56] <SlimeyPete> sogen: do you have Windows installed? Does it do the same thing in Windows?
[04:56] <user_> i have 1 question if anyone can help
[04:56] <bezibaerchen> had to use it for installing cxlinux e.g.
[04:56] <neozen> aj_: how much ram do you have?
[04:56] <kbrosnan> aj_: close firefox and mozilla, rename your ~/.mozilla folder and restart firefox, does it crash?
[04:56] <jimmy20013> dwright: What can be the reason that my dual agp card is not being detected? It worked in my other machine
[04:57] <neozen> aj_: firefox can be a hungry beastie
[04:57] <bezibaerchen> neozen: it IS :-)
[04:57] <sogen> SlimeyPete: i do not have windows atm but it didnt hengs on windows
[04:57] <dooglus> user_: just ask
[04:57] <user_> i installed ubuntu from an alternate cd  version 6.10 and did the OEM install
[04:57] <rambo3> !twinview
[04:57] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[04:57] <aj_> neozen I have a 233 celeron mmx w/128 mb
[04:57] <user_> now my question
[04:57] <user_> what's the username
[04:57] <dooglus> user_: you should write thrillers.  that suspense is killing me
[04:57] <aj_> neozen old dell laptop
[04:57] <user_> i put a password.. but not an username
[04:57] <jimmy20013> thanks rambo3
[04:57] <neozen> aj_: yeah... you're right at the bottom of the firefox bracket
[04:58] <dejand> re
[04:58] <neozen> aj_: look into dillo
[04:58] <dejand> (16:57) dejand@ran:~$ xhost +
[04:58] <dejand> xhost:  unable to open display ""
[04:58] <pavan>  i had a Problem with GDM
[04:58] <neozen> aj_: its in the repositories.... and might be more your speed
[04:58] <neozen> !dillo
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dillo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <pavan> at Login screen it gives a error messege that No servers defined in configuration file and XCMP is disabled. GDM started single server for you
[04:58] <pavan>  i had a Problem with GDM
[04:58] <dejand> same error
[04:58] <dwright> xhost + needs to be run on your local machine
[04:58] <kenthomson> !dilo
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dilo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <dwright> not remote session
[04:58] <dejand> when i want to stary xeyes
[04:58] <dejand> wait
[04:58] <neozen> aj_: lightweight web  browser
[04:58] <pavan> at Login screen it gives a error messege that No servers defined in configuration file and XCMP is disabled. GDM started single server for you
[04:58] <dealc> I have a problem, I can connect ot my samba shares but I can not write to them from the other side. What Can I do?
[04:58] <dejand> access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
[04:58] <dwright> good
[04:59] <suryan> how to fix the packages
[04:59] <SlimeyPete> sogen: it might be that the linux kernel doesn't fully support your hardware. Google for your motherboard / graphics card / sound card etc and check whether there are any forum posts saying that others are having trouble
[04:59] <aj_> neozen I had win xp on here running firefox just fine, does that matter?
[04:59] <dooglus> user_: did you try 'root' as the username?
[04:59] <user_> yes
[04:59] <dwright> now login to remote console and export display
[04:59] <dooglus> user_: and 'ubuntu'?
[04:59] <user_> and the password.. still didn't work
[04:59] <ferronica> New GNOME 2.18 released how to install it???
[04:59] <sogen> SlimeyPete: okie dokie
[04:59] <dejand> so what do i do now
[04:59] <dejand> ?
[04:59] <user_> ubuntu yes.. v 6.10 from alternate cd
[04:59] <dooglus> user_: (I'm guessing; I've not done an OEM install)
[04:59] <kbrosnan> aj_: no that does not matter
[04:59] <dwright> dejand: login into remote and export display
[04:59] <albertolempira> hey guys how can i burn *.wma songs with GnomeBaker? thx
[04:59] <kbrosnan> aj_: close firefox and mozilla, rename your ~/.mozilla folder and restart firefox, does it crash?
[04:59] <dealc> I have a problem, I can connect ot my samba shares but I can not write to them from the other side. What Can I do?
[04:59] <dooglus> user_: can you boot into 'rescue mode' or some such and look at /etc/passwd?
[05:00] <dooglus> user_: use 'adduser' to make a user account if there isn't one
[05:00] <neozen> aj_: well.... yes actually.... take a look @ the suggestion from kbrosnan: aj_: close firefox and mozilla, rename your ~/.mozilla folder and restart firefox, does it crash?
[05:00] <user_> i guess i could do that
[05:00] <suryan> how to fix the broken packages in the system
[05:00] <NET||abuse> ANyone have a hp nc6000 laptop and know if the sdcard reader can be used?? I have an sd card with stuff on it i need to get at :)
[05:00] <dooglus> user_: not nice, I know, but may help
[05:00] <Bluedog> ferronica: wait for feisty :)
[05:00] <Bluedog> it has gnome 2.18
[05:00] <neozen> aj_: he'd probably be more help then me
[05:00] <dejand> Error: Can't open display: <IP_ADDRESS>:0
[05:00] <user_> how do i get there..
[05:00] <dooglus> dejand: can you ping it?
[05:00] <kenthomson> HELP; What version of Ubuntu do i need if i have a core 2 duo (1.8GHZ)? Please help
[05:00] <dejand> yes
[05:00] <user_> like in win was f8 in ubuntu ??
[05:00] <dwright> export DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0.0
[05:00] <dejand> 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.179 ms
[05:00] <dooglus> dejand: ubuntu's X server doesn't accept incoming connections
[05:01] <dealc> I have a problem, I can connect ot my samba shares but I can not write to them from the other side. What Can I do?
[05:01] <ferronica> Bluedog: i am using Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake
[05:01] <dooglus> dejand: so you won't be able to use its display by exporting DISPLAY=...
[05:01] <dejand> same error but 0.0 at the end
[05:01] <neozen> kenthomson: the standard 386 kernel should detect your multi-cores
[05:01] <ferronica> Bluedog: Is there any problem??
[05:01] <aj_> kbrosan I tried to uninstall firefox last night and it wouldnt let me
[05:01] <dejand> how do i do that then?
[05:01] <aj_> neozen thanks
[05:01] <dwright> dooglus: I use incoming connections all the time
[05:01] <user_> how do i get in rescuemode in ubuntu?
[05:01] <dooglus> dejand: use ssh to connect to the remote machine with display forwarding
[05:02] <suryan> how to fix the broken packages in synaptic
[05:02] <dejand> -X ?
[05:02] <albertolempira> hey guys how can i burn *.wma songs with GnomeBaker? thx
[05:02] <dealc> I have a problem, I can connect ot my samba shares but I can not write to them from the other side. What Can I do?
[05:02] <user_> suryan  delete and then download new packets
[05:02] <dyrne> user_: hit esc when computer first boots
[05:02] <kenthomson> neozen, are you sure? Should i get the generic-kernel, tell me the 64-bit people need seperate kernel, than why don't I? Will i loose some of my potential performance?
[05:02] <neozen> ferronica: ::hoists beer:: all hail dapper!
[05:02] <aj_> kbrosnan I tried to uninstall firefox last night and it wouldnt let me
[05:02] <dooglus> dejand: if you 'ssh -Y' onto the remote host, DISPLAY will be set for you
[05:02] <kbrosnan> aj_: don't reinstall, in your home folder there is a hidden folder called .mozilla, i need you to find it and rename it while firefox is closed
[05:02] <user_> ok thx
[05:02] <user_> going to try that
[05:02] <neozen> kenthomson: no
[05:02] <waseidel> hi
[05:02] <dejand> works
[05:02] <dejand> thanks
[05:02] <suryan> i have installed live cd
[05:02] <neozen> kenthomson: running 64 bit kernel HUGE pain
[05:02] <Morfar2_> When I try to install Nvidia drivers it says I need libc development package. Wtf is that? And how do I get it?
[05:03] <dejand> biiig thanks
[05:03] <dealc> How do I get my nVidia card to do s-video out in 6.10?
[05:03] <dooglus> dwright: did you have to enable listening in the X server config?  or do you use ssh -Y?
[05:03] <ferronica> neozen: what you mean? :(
[05:03] <aj_> kbrosnan give me a sec
[05:03] <waseidel> plz help me
[05:03] <suryan>  i have installed live cd
[05:03] <dwright> dooglus I just use xhost +
[05:03] <dwright> but I had forgotten about the -Y
[05:03] <dooglus> dwright: what's DISPLAY set to on the remote machine?
[05:03] <waseidel> who can help me?
[05:03] <kenthomson> neozen, you are not sure?
[05:03] <neozen> kenthomson: just get the 386 version and it will install the proper SMP (simple multi-processor) kernel
[05:03] <dealc> Morfar2: Its in synaptic.
[05:03] <dwright> dooglus: export DISPLAY=x.x.x.:0.0
[05:03] <dealc> I have a problem, I can connect ot my samba shares but I can not write to them from the other side. What Can I do?
[05:04] <dealc> How do I get my nVidia card to do s-video out in 6.10?
[05:04] <dwright> -Y is easier :)
[05:04] <dwright> dejand: did the -Y work for you?
[05:04] <kenthomson> neozen, and that means i will be able to use all my processor's performance without loosing anything?
[05:04] <dooglus> dwright: it seems to have done, yes
[05:04] <albertolempira> hey guys how can i burn *.wma songs with GnomeBaker?
[05:04] <dooglus> dwright: exporting DISPLAY to be x.x.x.x shouldn't work
[05:04] <neozen> kenthomson: you don't want the amd64 kernel.... its only for certain finicky amd chipsets
[05:04] <neozen> kenthomson: yes... you will get the right performance
[05:05] <dwright> dooglus: I use it all the time but I connect to Solaris
[05:05] <dooglus> dwright: that's different.  he was wanting to connect to ubuntu.
[05:05] <dyrne> albertolempira: why, in gods name would you want wma?
[05:05] <dwright> dooglus: right I wasn't thinking
[05:05] <neozen> kenthomson: after you install do an update & upgrade, and uname -r (on the terminal) should have SMP in the name
[05:06] <albertolempira> dyrne: 'cause i got some old songs from my windows partition that i ripped a time ago in wma format
[05:06] <rambo3> or degeneric
[05:06] <neozen> kenthomson: that should give you peace of mind
[05:07] <kenthomson> neozen, and by that we mean that i can simply pop-in a ubuntu live cd and carry on as usual, and the generic-kernel would utilise the full potential of my PC?
[05:07] <albertolempira> dyrne: maybe i didn't write the question right... i got some wma's songs that i want to burn into an audio cd
[05:08] <neozen> kenthomson: thats the experience my friends with core duo's have seen
[05:08] <Morfar2_> dealc: Thanks, found it
[05:08] <kenthomson> neozen, thank you, you have been really helpful.
[05:08] <neozen> kenthomson: but a livecd won't give you the speed a full install would
[05:08] <rambo3> !info nautilus-script-audio-convert
[05:08] <ubotu> nautilus-script-audio-convert: A nautilus audio converter script. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 96 kB
[05:08] <neozen> kenthomson: no problem
[05:09] <aj_> kbrosnan no it actually created another .mozzila folder, I tried it twice
[05:09] <dyrne> albertolempira: id consider converting them to wav
[05:09] <waseidel> HELP!!!
[05:10] <kbrosnan> aj_: it should create another .mozilla folder when you start firefox
[05:10] <waseidel> how I do with an static IP
[05:10] <albertolempira> dyrne: and how can i do that? which app should i use?
[05:10] <waseidel> I can't connect to internet
[05:10] <dyrne> albertolempira: manually .. lemme check forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37793
[05:10] <neozen> waseidel: man interfacess
[05:10] <aj_> kborsnan I like that that is pretty cool
[05:10] <waseidel> ok grax
[05:11] <jimmy20013> drwright: Ok, I got my dual head card to work and both heads are working. Now do I stretch the desktop between the two screens?
[05:11] <waseidel> tnkz
[05:11] <neozen> waseidel: you'll need to have the numbers for you dns servers handy... just as you would under windows
[05:11] <dyrne> albertolempira: if youre going to burn an audio cd dont convert em to wma -->wav-->mp3-->wav just wav
[05:11] <kbrosnan> aj_: did firefox get to yahoo without crashing?
[05:11] <neozen> waseidel: you'll also need the numbers for your gateway and your netmask
[05:12] <albertolempira> dyrne: sure!...thanks!
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[05:12] <waseidel> [neozen]  the problen it's i do ping to ny gateway and netmask and they answer but my dns not
[05:12] <aj_> kbrosnan it goes to yahoo, but when I try to login it crashes
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[05:12] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, or mneptok
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[05:12] <elkbuntu> i win
[05:13] <kbrosnan> aj_: still after making a new profile
[05:13] <neozen> danke ops
[05:13] <genii> !ops save us in #ubuntu from hiush
[05:13] <Hobbsee> that you do.  damn chanserv
[05:13] <aj_> kbrosnan it goes to yahoo, only crashes when I try to login
[05:13] <pokingfun> ...
[05:13] <ferronica> hey what happening in channel?
[05:13] <ferronica> Is there any bot???
[05:13] <neozen> ferronica: some moron just got punted
[05:13] <ferronica> neozen: okay
[05:13] <tyoung> Anybody have a recommendation on what nvidia chipset is the 'best' to pick for a new ubuntu system?
[05:14] <crimsun> competition between the gals!
[05:14] <neozen> !best
[05:14] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:14] <ferronica> neozen: hey is there any channel where i can discuss about Theme or to design my ubuntu? :)
[05:14] <chuckhazard> ok so I had a windows share mounted with smbclient.  Then I hibernated.
[05:14] <chuckhazard> Now the mount directory /media is inaccessible.  ls /media/mountpoint gives error
[05:14] <chuckhazard> "input/output error".
[05:14] <aj_> kbrosnan you are a god
[05:14] <neozen> ferronica: as in ...customize the look?
[05:14] <kbrosnan> aj_: it works now with the new .mozilla?
[05:14] <tyoung> ubotu: good point.
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about good point. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <aj_> kbrosnan why was that happening
[05:15] <ferronica> neozen: yeah look i get bored with one look
[05:15] <neozen> ferronica: you'll probably find details on gnome-look.org
[05:15] <ferronica> neozen: okay
[05:15] <neozen> ferronica: they've got a metric ton of themes
[05:15] <ferronica> neozen: what theme do you use??/
[05:15] <rellik> is there a better way of saving a processes PID to a file than ps .. | awk ... > file ?
[05:16] <kbrosnan> aj_: the most likely reason is a confilicting problem with the free flash plugin and the adobe flash plugin. Having both makes firefox very unstable
[05:16] <aj_> kbrosnan it worked with firefox
[05:16] <neozen> ferronica: I'm a fan of darker styled themes (ie.. lighttext on black)
[05:16] <tyoung> Better question: Is Ubuntu more stable under nforce4, 570 or 590 chipsets, or does it make no difference?
[05:16] <chuckhazard> how can I correct "ls: /media/mountpoint: input/output error" ?
[05:16] <ferronica> neozen: okay
[05:16] <jbernhardt> hey, it won't let me change my screen resolution
[05:16] <jbernhardt> does anyone know how to
[05:17] <neozen> ferronica: I've been using neutronium for what seems like forever
[05:17] <kbrosnan> aj_: if you need to recover some of the data in your old profile http://kb.mozillazine.org/Migrating_settings_to_a_new_profile is a very helpful article
[05:17] <aj_> kbrosnan I didnt really want the mozzila browser I just wanted to try an alternate browser to see if I got the same result
[05:17] <neozen> ferronica: http://neozen.no-ip.info/ss.png
[05:17] <ferronica> neozen: okay
[05:17] <rambo3> aj_ opera
[05:17] <dyrne> rellik: well depending on what youre doing echo $$ will give the pid
[05:17] <jbernhardt> Kazehakase
[05:17] <tyoung> jbernhardt: You can always edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file if the xrandr isn't working.
[05:18] <aj_> kbrosnan nah I just installed 4 days ago havent really done anything yet
[05:18] <neozen> ferronica: there's two main components to a 'look' on a linux gui
[05:18] <aj_> ranmbo3 have heard of opera never really used it yet
[05:18] <ferronica> neozen: what???
[05:19] <aj_> rambo3 what is the benifits of opera
[05:19] <rambo3> aj_ try it , its realy good browser and lighter then ff
[05:19] <neozen> ferronica: the first (on ubuntu and xubuntu) is the window manager theme this determines what window borders look like, and then there's the gtk theme... that determines background of windows, foreground color, and all other stuff)
[05:19] <LjL> and proprietary.
[05:20] <neozen> ferronica: if you're using ubuntu's original theme manager, you want themes for metacity
[05:20] <aj_> kbrosnan thanx for all your help I was getting pretty frustrated with that problem
[05:20] <neozen> ferronica: that clear things up a bit?
[05:20] <Mnemonica> Mmmk. Would this be the correct channel to ask about partitioning a hard-drive so that I can load ubuntu onto a dell machine that is currently running vista? <-- no idea what he's doing
[05:21] <ferronica> neozen: i am using THEME manager included in ubuntu 6.
[05:21] <dyrne> aj_: and Norwegian *shudders*
[05:21] <ferronica> neozen: 6.06 LTS Dapper
[05:21] <aj_> rambo3 I will check it out tonight, I have to go to work and help 90 yr old women get on the internet
[05:21] <neozen> ferronica: ::nods:: take a look on gnome-look.org ... it should provide what you seek
[05:21] <odium> What comes after Dapper?
[05:22] <neozen> !edgy
[05:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[05:22] <rambo3> so she can tell people to get of her lawn on internet ?
[05:22] <neozen> odium: edgy
[05:22] <aj_> rambo3 my computer even though it is ancient runs ff pretty smooth
[05:22] <hectorUbu> hello, just wondering if anyone here know how to activate the Bluetooth on a Acer Aspire 5570 laptop?
[05:22] <chuckhazard> so basically I think hibernation screws up existing samba mounts
[05:22] <neozen> chuckhazard: among other things
[05:22] <chuckhazard> but I don't want to have to unmount everything before hibernating
[05:22] <aj_> dyrne what is norwegian
[05:22] <rambo3> opera
[05:23] <neozen> chuckhazard: you should be able to modify your hibernation scripts to do this automatically
[05:23] <pokingfun> is opera still alive?
[05:23] <chuckhazard> neozen: just what i was about to ask.  where are they?
[05:23] <neozen> chuckhazard: I think they're in /etc/acpi-support
[05:23] <chuckhazard> neozen: cool thanks
[05:23] <neozen> chuckhazard: let me check
[05:23] <dyrne> aj_: opera is a nice alterative but i prefer open projects.  theyve been a good influence on browsers though i guess
[05:23] <Mnemonica> I repeat... Mmmk. Would this be the correct channel to ask about partitioning a hard-drive so that I can load ubuntu onto a dell machine that is currently running vista? <-- no idea what he's doing
[05:24] <neozen> chuckhazard: correction /etc/acpi on my system (xubuntu dapper.. ymmv)
[05:24] <vnt87> hi all, first time here
[05:24] <neozen> vnt87: welcome
[05:24] <coolness9> Mnemonica, you ca download Ubuntu and burn the image to a CD. Start it up
[05:24] <neozen> vnt87: you've got questions?
[05:24] <aj_> dyrne yea that is why I am going to linux, have been microsoft dependant for too many years,
[05:24] <vnt87> yep
[05:24] <chuckhazard> neozen: super thanks
[05:24] <vnt87> just wondering if X-Chat can handle the irc protocol
[05:25] <neozen> aj_: well.. welcome to the fold mate
[05:25] <vnt87> doesn't look like it does here
[05:25] <coolness9> and follow the instructions. You can allocate harddrive space to Ubunto and dual-boot
[05:25] <Mnemonica> I've already got the burned cd, I'd like to be able to dual boot vista and ubuntu, or at least go back and forth between the two.
[05:25] <coolness9> becareful not to delete your harddrive partition though
[05:25] <neozen> chuckhazard: hibernation is iffy on a lot of systems (mine included) ... I just don't hibernate
[05:25] <neozen> chuckhazard: so I couldn't tell you whether modifying those scripts will do what you want
[05:25] <aj_> well I just want to thank you all, Neozen, kbrosnan, rambo3, and dyrne for all of the advise and help
[05:26] <neozen> aj_: you are welcome
[05:26] <coolness9> Menonica, it will give you the option to create and resize your existing partition. I don't know enough about it to really help thoguh, sorry.
[05:26] <neozen> aj_: community support is what linux is all about (unless you have the mega-bucks to shell out to redhat)
[05:27] <chuckhazard> neozen: its a good place to start though
[05:27] <aj_> I am sure i will be back in here bothering you all again
[05:27] <coolness9> i just reformatted my computer and installed windows. I created a partition about 75% of my HD, and then installed Ubunto on the other 25%
[05:27] <neozen> chuckhazard: yeah
[05:27] <Mnemonica> My problem is that I don't know what any of this means...
[05:27] <neozen> chuckhazard: started messing around with the acpi stuff when I was trying to get the next, previous, play, etc buttons to work on my keyboard
[05:27] <aj_> Neozendefinately dont have megabucks remember 233 mmx/128mb
[05:28] <baggy1> i loose device files after reboot...  i.e., /dev/ttyS0, /dev/ttyS1, etc  I recreate them via MAKEDEV, but is there away to do this automatically so I don't have to after reboots?
[05:28] <rambo3> I am just saying , opera is closest when it comes to css /html standard
[05:28] <neozen> aj_: yeah... I remember...
[05:28] <Mnemonica> What does partitioning do? Will it affect my windows os? that sort of thing.
[05:28] <neozen> aj_: how the heck did you have firefox working on the old girl?
[05:28] <aj_> neozen I have a nicer machine too but am using this to learn on first
[05:28] <neozen> aj_: ahhh
[05:28] <baktaah> I need a PowerPoint and Word but for linux (Word should have swedish correction and a synonymous list)
[05:28] <quaal> does anyone know of any audio applications for linux? simillar to cubase or reason, even fruityloops, etc?
[05:29] <quaal> something i could use with vst instruments
[05:29] <coolness9> you should just boot up Ubuntu using your CD, and it will give you the option to resize your partition. A partition is an allocated disk space on your harddrive. you can have many partitions with many OS's installed on it.
[05:29] <quaal> and a midi controller
[05:29] <aj_> I am pretty good a tweaking windows, just new to linnux
[05:29] <neozen> baktaah: openoffice.org should set you up
[05:29] <LjL> baktaah: err, you noticed there's OpenOffice installed by default?
[05:29] <coolness9> Usually computers come with 1 or 2 Partitions.
[05:29] <rambo3> baktaah, ooo and install spellcheck ,
[05:29] <baktaah> spellcheck to open office?
[05:29] <aj_> neozen everyone told me I would never get win xp on here
[05:29] <neozen> aj_: don't worry... you'll be up to speed in a few weeks if you keep using it
[05:30] <coolness9> using the ubuntu CD, you should be able to resize your existing partition without effecting your windows partition. I never tried it though
[05:30] <LjL> baktaah: also installed by default. thesaurus (synonyms) not sure, though
[05:30] <neozen> coolness9: I just had success doing it under knoppix 5.1.1
[05:30] <aj_> neozen definately not a quitter
[05:30] <LjL> baktaah: no, i'm afraid thesaurus isn't available for swedish - though spell checking certainly is
[05:30] <Mnemonica> I wouldn't be so picky about it except for the fact that I just got a new computer and it's the only thing holding all of my music and word docs and such.
[05:30] <aj_> neozen anything to help open source
[05:30] <neozen> coolness9: you need to tell it to leave your swap partition alone if it exists
[05:31] <Mnemonica> And I want to fool around with linux, but I don't want to screw anything up.
[05:31] <aj_> neozen always hated the game monopoly
[05:31] <coolness9> thanks Neozzen, but I was talking to Mnemica
[05:31] <neozen> coolness9: qtparted (using ntfsresize) worked like a champ
[05:31] <baktaah> LjL thanks man.
[05:31] <neozen> coolness9: ahhhhh... sorry
[05:31] <baktaah> LjL no hard feeling for yesterday huh?
[05:31] <coolness9> np
[05:31] <baktaah> from*
[05:31] <coolness9> Mnemonica, you should be safe :)
[05:31] <aj_> Everyone have a great day
[05:32] <coolness9> just don't delete the exisiting partition. it will give you that option in the Ubuntu install
[05:33] <Mnemonica> alright... I'll give it a whirl then. Hopefully I'll be back on in a few minutes. - One last question though, if I need to remove ubuntu for any reason, what do I have to do? delete the partition that ubuntu is installed on? Or just get rid of the os?
[05:34] <matt_> nick Journeyman
[05:34] <matt_> erm
[05:34] <Journeyman> when I try to burn an .iso file I get ..."is not a valid disk image"
[05:34] <SlimeyPete> Mnemonica: remove the partition, then do an fdisk /mbr under windows and resize your windows partition to fill the space. But hopefully you won't have to do that :)
[05:34] <Journeyman> yet the image burns just fine on windows with nero
[05:34] <compilerwriter> all4n you still around?
[05:35] <Mnemonica> ^_^ Hopefully not. Alright, thanks peoples.
[05:35] <baktaah> Ehm
[05:35] <baktaah> does anyone know what the swedish packets for Open office is called?
[05:35] <Starshooot> bonjour a tous
[05:36] <LjL> baktaah: openoffice.org-l10n-sv
[05:36] <LjL> baktaah: but perhaps you might just install the whole language-support-sv
[05:36] <baktaah> LjL the language-support-sv does not contain spellchecking
[05:37] <neozen> LjL: tell me you looked that up somewhere
[05:37] <LjL> neozen: of course i did, it's called "apt-cache search" you know :P
[05:37] <gergr> hi
[05:37] <neozen> lol
[05:37] <neozen> gergr: hoallo there
[05:37] <LjL> baktaah: actually, it seems to contain it...
[05:38] <gergr> hi neozen
[05:38] <LjL> baktaah: it depends on myspell-sv-se, aspell-sv, wswedish, iswedish
[05:38] <LjL> baktaah: i guess you just need to configure it? (select either myspell or aspell, but not hspell or whatever else there is)
[05:38] <neozen> gergr: how goes your linux'ing today?
[05:38] <mrj> how do i get gaim-text?
[05:38] <baktaah> LjL roger thanks
[05:39] <neozen> mrj: its in the repositories
[05:39] <pavan>  i had a Problem with GDM
[05:39] <pavan> at Login screen it gives a error messege that No servers defined in configuration file and XCMP is disabled. GDM started single server for you
[05:39] <gergr> neozen, haha fine, as usual, how r u doing? xD
[05:39] <baktaah> LjL and no it does not contain it, language-support-sv does not contain spellchecking
[05:39] <gergr> does anyone knows an application to control fan speed?
[05:39] <Toma-> !info cruft
[05:39] <neozen> mrj: should be able to install just like any other package
[05:39] <ubotu> cruft: Find any cruft built up on your system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-0.15 (edgy), package size 46 kB, installed size 1096 kB
[05:39] <neozen> Toma-: cruft???
[05:39] <LjL> baktaah: i'm on Feisty, perhaps it's different. what does  apt-cache show language-support-sv | grep Depends  show?
[05:39] <neozen> Toma-: interesting
[05:40] <Toma-> it clears garbage, apparently
[05:40] <ud> anyone make ati binary drivers work with feisty?
[05:40] <baktaah> LjL no such file/dir
[05:40] <SlimeyPete> ud: yes, me
[05:40] <ppj> neozen: gaim-text as opposed to gaim? its in the reps?
[05:40] <ud> slimey did you have to patch them to make them work with 2.6.20?
[05:40] <LjL> baktaah: uh?! you sure you typed that correctly? that's not an error it should give. at worst, it should be "no such package".
[05:40] <neozen> ppj: yeah.... I believe there is a gaim-text package
[05:40] <LjL> baktaah: apt-cache show language-support-sv
[05:41] <ppj> hm
[05:41] <LjL> baktaah: look at the Depends line
[05:41] <baktaah> LjL nevermind I was the wrong package.
[05:41] <neozen> ppj: doh... guess not
[05:41] <baktaah> I was on the
[05:41] <neozen> ppj: was certain I saw one...
[05:41] <ppj> yeah
[05:41] <ppj> i cant find it
[05:41] <LjL> baktaah: try also  sudo apt-get install myspell-dictionary-sv
[05:41] <SlimeyPete> ud: nope. They worked first time (I used the Ubuntu fglrx package from synaptic). Incidentally this conversation would be better suited to #ubuntu+1
[05:41] <baktaah> LjL pelling dictionaries, hyphenation patterns, thesauri and help are not
[05:41] <baktaah> included in this package.
[05:41] <ud> slimey ok, thank you
[05:41] <baktaah> LjL  I already got what I wanted so it's cool :)
[05:42] <rambo3> !nordic
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nordic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <LjL> ?
[05:42] <rambo3> there is nordic ubuntu edition that includes all files by default
[05:42] <LjL> if you just select Swedish everywhere when installing, i'm quite positive everything is included by default as well
[05:43] <rambo3> language ones are downloaded after install , so if you have no net its simpler to get noric ubuntu
[05:43] <LjL> i see
[05:43] <hectorUbu> hello, just wondering if anyone here know how to activate the Bluetooth on a Acer Aspire 5570 laptop?
[05:43] <zulfajuniadi2> anyone knows how to add cdrom in repositories, and no, i cannot use apt-cdrom, or the synaptics gui
[05:44] <n0cTurNuLL> hello
[05:44] <dyrne> hectorUbu: you might get better info from the forums. id try a google search like 'site:ubuntuforums.org bluetooth laptopmodel'
[05:44] <n0cTurNuLL> who can i ask questions regarding ubuntu LTS??
[05:44] <LjL> !ask
[05:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:44] <n0cTurNuLL> ah okies
[05:44] <n0cTurNuLL> thanks
[05:45] <neozen> zulfajuniadi: stick a line "cdrom" at the top of your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[05:45] <neozen> zulfajuniadi: no quotes
[05:45] <hectorUbu> dyrne: thanks, I've googled a lot and also checked the forums... I posted there so I'll wait to see if I get any help
[05:45] <n0cTurNuLL> i do have a laptop and it has only 256 of ram
[05:45] <n0cTurNuLL> and running in 1.40 Ghz
[05:45] <zulfajuniadi2> neozen, do i have to point it to my cdrom drive, like /media/cdrom?
[05:45] <n0cTurNuLL> can i install the dapper drake in it??
[05:45] <rambo3> i have ubuntu feisy on 800 Mhz 192 MB ram
[05:46] <LjL> n0cTurNuLL: it will work fairly. won't be lightening-like.
[05:46] <neozen> zulfajuniadi: it should just use the first cdrom drive on the system I think
[05:46] <n0cTurNuLL> ok thanks
[05:46] <neozen> zulfajuniadi: internet connection too slow?
[05:46] <zulfajuniadi2> thanks neozen
[05:46] <LjL> zulfajuniadi2: also it won't really be of any use if you have the Desktop CD
[05:46] <neozen> zulfajuniadi: yeah.. that too
[05:47] <zulfajuniadi2> owh, thanks for the heads up :D
[05:47] <neozen> zulfajuniadi: the repo on the alternate cd is larger
[05:47] <LjL> is there a repo on the desktop CD at  all?
[05:48] <neozen> LjL: ..........a reaaaaaaaaaaaaally minimal one
[05:48] <baktaah> LjL Myspell doesn't work
[05:49] <jamiethehutt> would anyone know a way to run simple commands on boot (such as fusesmb)? like gentoo's /etc/init.d/local script, and not using auto started applications, is /etc/<runlevel>/S99rc.local the only way?
[05:49] <LjL> baktaah: like what?
[05:49] <LjL> !boot > jamiethehutt    (jamiethehutt, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:49] <neozen> !boot
[05:49] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:49] <neozen> bootscipts are majical whee!
[05:50] <baktaah> LjL myspell-sv doesn't work, I installed it and it doesnt correct.
[05:50] <wendigo> hola
[05:50] <wendigo> alguien habla espaol
[05:50] <LjL> !es | wendigo
[05:50] <ubotu> wendigo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:50] <rambo3> myspell-sv-se
[05:50] <LjL> baktaah: but, do all words appear as mispelled (i.e. underlined), or no words?
[05:50] <baktaah> baktaah no... not that either
[05:51] <baktaah> seems like its stuck on English
[05:51] <baktaah> i change it to Swedish then it has no suggestion, I check again it is back at English
[05:51] <psycho78> !acpi
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <jamiethehutt> all the bots stuff on boot ups is for grub. i mean as part of the init system?
[05:52] <Aaronformchina> howto install compiz on dapper?
[05:52] <LjL> jamiethehutt: erm, it does mention /etc/rc.local, doesn't it?
[05:52] <LjL> compiz > Aaronformchina
[05:52] <neozen> Aaronformchina: get thee to #ubuntu-effects !!
[05:52] <Aaronformchina> LjL, That's great!
[05:52] <neozen> lol
[05:53] <baktaah> LjL i change it to Swedish then it has no suggestion, I check again it is back at English
[05:53] <LjL> baktaah: i'm checking
[05:53] <Aaronformchina> LjL, Hopefully the next version of ubuntu has this command. Cheers! :)
[05:54] <NET||abuse> I'm soo loowww,, i can't find any articles on how to setup my sdcardreader slot from my laptop in linux :(
[05:54] <[WaZ] > KUL!
[05:54] <baktaah> LjL thanks man
[05:54] <zulfajuniadi2> is there any difference between 7.04 alpha and beta? i'd like to see if it's worth waiting 4 hours to download the beta version. I already have the alpha
[05:54] <Aaronformchina> neozen, thanks. :)
[05:54] <rambo3> baktaah, har du openoffice.org-l10n-sv ?
[05:55] <concept10> What config file do you blacklist modules in?
[05:55] <LjL> !english
[05:55] <[WaZ] > !feisty | zulfajuniadi
[05:55] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[05:55] <ubotu> zulfajuniadi: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:55] <PriceChild> !feisty > zulfajuniadi2 (see the pm from ubotu)
[05:55] <PriceChild> zulfajuniadi2, I advise you not to use feisty until release, it is not released yet.
[05:55] <wendigo> instale el beryl y no se ven los fondos de mis otros escritorios
[05:55] <LjL> baktaah: it seems that openoffice only tries to use hunspell - and not myspell -... but there is no valid hunspell package for swedish (at least here on feisty)
[05:55] <LjL> !es
[05:55] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:55] <wendigo> alguien sabe por que
[05:56] <zulfajuniadi2> PriceChild, I'm using it right now on my desktop, seems stable enough ;)
[05:56] <wendigo> en los canales en espaol no me responden
[05:56] <baktaah> LjL so I might as well get that language support that translate the entire program?
[05:56] <Agrajag> wendigo: pero no hablamos espaol aqui
[05:56] <n0cTurNuLL> and another, about is where can i get those AIGXL or GXL
[05:56] <[WaZ] > wendigo: habla ingles?
[05:56] <PriceChild> !es | wendigo Agrajag
[05:56] <ubotu> wendigo Agrajag: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:56] <wendigo> no se
[05:56] <wendigo> no
[05:56] <LjL> baktaah: not sure it'll be of much use for getting the spell checker to work
[05:56] <Agrajag> PriceChild: I'm trying to explain to him that we do not speak Spanish here.
[05:57] <PriceChild> Agrajag,  haha sorry :) Keep it up! :)
[05:57] <Qpid_> does anyone know how to setup dual monitors with a intel chipset
[05:57] <wendigo> i dont speak english
[05:57] <PriceChild> wendigo, /join #ubuntu-es
[05:57] <[WaZ] > I had the chance to say all I know in spanish without looking foolish
[05:57] <facugaich> How do I add an item to the applications menu?
[05:58] <[WaZ] > facugaich: System>Preferences>Menu Layout
[05:58] <concept10> What config file do you blacklist modules in?
[05:58] <wendigo> i need help beryl
[05:58] <Qpid_> facugaich or right click the menu
[05:58] <jamiethehutt> Qpid_ i do for 855m, just give me 5 minutes, fixing a phone :P
[05:59] <Qpid_> jamiethehutt sweet
[05:59] <pokingfun> phone?
[05:59] <LjL> baktaah: ok, make sure you have Swedish selected in *both* Tools / Options / Languages / Western *and* Tools / Options / Writing Aids / Hunspell -> Edit
[05:59] <concept10> What config file do you blacklist modules in?
[05:59] <concept10> can anyone see this?
[05:59] <crimsun> concept10: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*
[05:59] <concept10> crimsun: oh, thanks
[06:00] <baktaah> LjL thanks
[06:00] <LjL> !blacklist > concept10    (concept10, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:01] <ferronica> neozen: ~/.icons
[06:01] <ferronica> neozen: how to open it??
[06:01] <ferronica> LjL: ~/.icons
[06:01] <n0cTurNuLL> can the dapper drake can detect the network immediately??
[06:01] <ferronica> LjL: how to open this location???
[06:01] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: it should
[06:02] <n0cTurNuLL> cool
[06:02] <n0cTurNuLL> sorry for these noob questions
[06:02] <neozen> yay for the blacklist.... it pulls the crack pipe out of my bios ::dances::
[06:02] <[WaZ] > ferronica: open File Browser then Ctrl-H
[06:02] <n0cTurNuLL> coz i am about to change to ubuntu
[06:02] <n0cTurNuLL> i had already requested CD's of dapper drake
[06:02] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: try the Live CD, it doesn't install and you get to see it before installing it
[06:02] <neozen> nocTurNuLL: we were all noobs once
[06:02] <jamiethehutt> Qpid_ right have you done any dual head stuff with linux before (can you edit xorg.conf basically)?
[06:03] <[WaZ] > neozen: that's deep
[06:03] <n0cTurNuLL> thanks
[06:03] <neozen> [WaZ] : lol
[06:03] <n0cTurNuLL> i am wet-mouthed to those screenies that i saw
[06:03] <n0cTurNuLL> in youtube
[06:03] <ferronica> [WaZ] : nothing happend
[06:03] <neozen> noc that's probably for beryl
[06:03] <n0cTurNuLL> yup
[06:03] <LjL> ferronica: hit Alt+F2 and type  nautilus ~/.icons , if you're on GNOME and .icons is a directory. if it's a file, type  gedit ~/.icons
[06:04] <[WaZ] > ferronica: it should show hidden files, so you should be able to enter ./icons
[06:04] <neozen> you have fun installing beryl now
[06:04] <n0cTurNuLL> where can i get those AIGXL
[06:04] <neozen> I've heard its lots of fun
[06:04] <n0cTurNuLL> yes it is
[06:04] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: I think you'll need edgy
[06:05] <n0cTurNuLL> it will not included to those CD that i requested??
[06:05] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: edgy is the latest release of Ubuntu, but its not Long Term Support
[06:05] <CoRnJuLiOx> can anyone recommend a good download accelerator that'll pull a single file from four sources(HTTP or FTP) to increase speed (ala bittorrent, but w/out the torrent)?
[06:05] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: no, you will have to install it
[06:05] <Toma-> CoRnJuLiOx: aget
[06:05] <dyrne> n0cTurNuLL: you can upgrade once you install dapper. you have an ati or nvidia card?
[06:05] <mssnlayam> on feisty, NetworkManager stops working whenever my laptop goes to standby (or screensaver comes up). it doesn't start working again. I have to do killall -9 NetworkManager and run it again. Is this a known problem?
[06:05] <n0cTurNuLL> wait
[06:05] <baktaah> LjL under Hunspell there is no Swedish
[06:06] <[WaZ] > mssnlayam: doesn't do it here
[06:06] <n0cTurNuLL> i really don't remember
[06:06] <n0cTurNuLL> =)
[06:06] <LjL> baktaah: uh? meaning that the "Swedish" item does not have an icon next to it?
[06:06] <jamiethehutt> LjL rc.local is run at the start of each run level, so any command will be run a bunch of times when the system boots and i cant set stuff to stop when the system stops (in the case of smbfuse to unmount the filesystem at shutdown). its something gentoo has and is rather handy, if its not there i'll write up a script+tutorial+bug report/please add this request :P
[06:06] <mssnlayam> [WaZ] : what should I do now? this is reproducible.
[06:06] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: its not a problem just come here or to #beryl for help
[06:06] <mssnlayam> I don't know if this has been reported as a bug already
[06:06] <[WaZ] > mssnlayam: send a bug report?
[06:06] <n0cTurNuLL> S3 graphic twister
[06:07] <Nom-> Hi Guys, can anyone help me with this...I cant find where to disable the option which keeps turning s into  ?
[06:07] <odium> I'm having difficulty configuring my audio card. I have an ensonique audiopci. Is there a utility to make this work or should I being with getting the modules for alsa and compiling a new kernel?
[06:07] <baktaah> LjL nope... myspell is not correct it doesnt work
[06:07] <n0cTurNuLL> thanks
[06:07] <odium> sp/being/begin.
[06:07] <n0cTurNuLL> can i register here?
[06:07] <lobtoc> damn
[06:07] <mssnlayam> [WaX] : is there a way to file a bug report without having an account?
[06:07] <[WaZ] > !register > n0cTurNuLL
[06:07] <LjL> jamiethehutt: well, if you want that level of control, i think you *will* need to write your own /etc/init.d/blah script, and then use update-rc.d to activate it. there is /etc/init.d/skeleton that is provided as an example
[06:07] <deepfreez> Hellom i runnning ubuntu, i need a player+codec for see movie
[06:08] <[WaZ] > mssnlayam: never filed a bug report for NetworkManager
[06:08] <neozen> mssnlayam: not to my knowledge
[06:08] <[WaZ] > mssnlayam: actually never encountered a new bug
[06:08] <neozen> mssnlayam: what's your problem?
[06:08] <mssnlayam> [WaZ] : neozen: okay
[06:08] <n0cTurNuLL> thanks Waz
[06:08] <_Jaak_> why does totem-gstreamer handle dvd menu's crappy?
[06:08] <LjL> baktaah: look i'm not following you. what with myspell now? you said Swedish is not listed under Hunspell.  but *every* language is listed there, even those that are not available
[06:08] <deepfreez> Hello i runnning ubuntu, i need a player+codec for see movie
[06:08] <mssnlayam> neozen: pasting again: (11:05:31 AM) mssnlayam: on feisty, NetworkManager stops working whenever my laptop goes to standby (or screensaver comes up). it doesn't start working again. I have to do killall -9 NetworkManager and run it again. Is this a known problem?
[06:09] <[WaZ] > !dvd > _Jaak_
[06:09] <deepfreez> ! player
[06:09] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:09] <neozen> mssnlayam: wait.... stuff dies on standby? ......all bad stuff that happens on standby is a known issue.... standby is borked on a lot of stuff
[06:09] <[WaZ] > mssnlayam: got to #ubuntu+1 , this is stable ubuntu channel
[06:09] <ubuntuEdgy> do i need to set a jumper on the mother board in order for it to keep the eth1 on when the computer is turned of ,so i can wol it back on ? did this make sense ?
[06:09] <neozen> mssnlayam: certainly on mine
[06:09] <n0cTurNuLL> where can i get edgy?
[06:09] <baktaah> LjL under hunspel-> no
[06:09] <wendigo> alguien habla espaol
[06:09] <WindowsUser> deepfreez: enable the multiverse and universe stuff, and try VLC?
[06:09] <mssnlayam> [WaZ] : all right, going there
[06:09] <LjL> baktaah: Tools / Options, then select Language Settings, then Writing Aids, then hit the top "Edit" button (Hunspell is the default selection, leave it so), then change "English (USA)" into "Swedish"
[06:09] <LjL> !es | wendigo
[06:09] <ubotu> wendigo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:10] <neozen> ubuntuEdgy: keep eth1 on?
[06:10] <jamiethehutt> LjL well i want to be able to run commands at start up and shut down just by adding them each to a file, gentoo has an init script that does this and runs /etc/conf.d/local.start and local.stop on boot up and halt. its just a nice simple way of running commands at boot/shutdown
[06:10] <wendigo> es que en los canales en espaol nadie me responde
[06:10] <LjL> wendigo: lo siento pero aqui tenemos que hablar en ingls
[06:10] <deepfreez> WindowsUser, tnx
[06:10] <jamiethehutt> i dont want to make an init script/tutorial/bug report if something like it exists :P
[06:10] <wendigo> ni modods ok gracias
[06:10] <neozen> wendigo: type /join #ubuntu-es
[06:10] <baktaah> LjL done still doesnt correct
[06:10] <LjL> baktaah: then *also* select Swedish in Language Settings / Languages, "Default language for documents"
[06:10] <ubuntuEdgy> neozen: so it can be woled over a lan ,i been told it should have a green light when the computer is on ?
[06:11] <ubuntuEdgy> i mean off!!!!!!!!!!
[06:11] <neozen> wol.... wol is a new beast to me
[06:11] <ubuntuEdgy> i so need it
[06:11] <WindowsUser> jamiethehutt: I know theres an rc.local, could write a script and link it for shutdown, but then you'd need info on runlevels
[06:11] <_Jaak_> Gstreamer willl play intro of my dvd but stops after the first clip, i don't get to see the menu, what can i do about it besides using xine?
[06:11] <concept10> crimsun: do you know if it's alright to disable the module _lp_ in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist (there are a couple of files)
[06:11] <SlimeyPete> _Jaak_: use VLC?
[06:11] <SlimeyPete> ;)
[06:11] <ubuntuEdgy> wol is wakeon lan by the way
[06:12] <choongii> hi. I have installed java6 and am trying to run a webstart app, .jnlp. when I double click it, I get some sort of webstart settings window. I can run it with javaws bla.jnlp from terminal. how do I make it so that I can run the .jnlp by doubleclicking it?
[06:12] <_Jaak_> why can't i just use gstreamer and totem?
[06:12] <[WaZ] > _Jaak_: workds without a problem here, have you tried installing codecs?
[06:12] <jamiethehutt> WindowsUser rc.local is run at the start of each run level meaning the command will be run a bunch of times unless i tell it only on these levels, it seems a long way round.
[06:12] <[WaZ] > !codecs > _Jaak_
[06:12] <rambo3> jamiethehutt, man update-rc.d
[06:12] <Nom-> Ah, it dead keys that my problem...how do I disable it? :/
[06:12] <Aw0L> how can I set up exclusion rules for dhcp?
[06:12] <WindowsUser> hmm really?
[06:12] <erUSUL> jamiethehutt: less /etc/rc.local
[06:12] <neozen> choongii: right click... and select open with another program (at least... under thunar)
[06:12] <_Qpid> jamiethehutt: you done with that phone yet?