[00:00] <fizbin> Why? I'm in the US.
[00:00] <popey> find a us mirror
[00:00] <popey> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[00:00] <popey> there's loads
[00:01] <fizbin> Okay, this is odd. The md5 sums in http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release don't match the md5 sums in the Release from the install CD...
[00:01] <OerHeks> precise 12.04 12.04.1 or higher?
[00:01] <fizbin> 12.04.5
[00:01] <ratsarebig> fizbin: German are most up to date and fast
[00:02] <OerHeks> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/MD5SUMS
[00:02] <l2ksolkov> ratsarebig, connecting to mirrors across the earth are not a good idea.
[00:03] <StFS> Hi. Can anybody tell me what the flying frack is going on with my computer... I have two cpus with 4 cores each (physical) but htop is only showing activity on two of them!? Also, top only shows 25% load when I run "stress -c 8"
[00:04] <Fruckiwacki> Hey, is it possible to rename a luks crypt device without doing luksFormat?
[00:04] <hardtail> Does anyone know why GRUB would ccrash while trying to install?
[00:05] <EriC^^> hardtail: what's the error msg?
[00:06] <fizbin> Huh. So, that mirror list claims that us.archive.ubuntu.com is a US mirror, and up to date. Deleting /var/lib/apt/lists/*Rel* and retrying worked.
[00:06] <fizbin> So I guess I just needed a newer Release file. Don't know why apt didn't go get it.
[00:10] <linelevel> Hi guys, it took me a while, but I was finally able to boot from a LiveCD and run `smartctl -a` on my hard drive. Here is the output. Can anyone help me to interpret it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8695707/
[00:10] <linelevel> daftykins: ^
[00:11] <daftykins> linelevel: sure reading now
[00:11] <linelevel> It says it passed, but running `sudo badblocks -sh` on my primary partition had previously reported errors.
[00:11] <linelevel> ^ -sv not -sh
[00:11] <daftykins> linelevel: yep reallocated sectors, that disk is toast
[00:12] <hardtail> EriC^^: I am trying to install ubuntu on my hybrid laptop/tablet and when I enter "install ubuntu" the screen goes black but still illuminated and nothing is there
[00:12] <daftykins> linelevel: it still has 27 pending sectors too, so it's getting worse. if you want any data off that thing you need to copy it off now
[00:12] <hardtail> daftykins is the pro there
[00:12] <linelevel> daftykins: I've been making nightly backups, but I only keep them for a week, so that's probably after this problem started...
[00:13] <daftykins> linelevel: well, if the data is good you'll be fine. you need to replace this disk though
[00:13] <linelevel> daftykins: I just ordered an SSD from Amazon to replace this drive, but I'll need to keep using it until it arrives. (it's my primary work computer.) Any thing you would recommend to minimize my chance of data loss until then?
[00:13] <EriC^^> hardtail: odd
[00:14] <EriC^^> hardtail: that's not a grub problem btw
[00:14] <EriC^^> hardtail: vga or something i guess
[00:14] <daftykins> linelevel: you would be better off creating a persistent liveUSB session and just accessing the HDD piecemeal, i wouldn't even attempt to boot from it as it'll work it too hard and likely kill it
[00:15] <EriC^^> hardtail: try to press alt+ctrl+f1
[00:15] <hyuukai> Could anyone help me, i am new at ubuntu and my firefox says i need to install flash player, i downloaded a tar.gz file now what?
[00:15] <daftykins> linelevel: you can keep running smartctl to see if the values increment, you'll want to watch ID numbers 5, 196 and 197
[00:16] <linelevel> daftykins: Sigh, well okay, thanks. One more question: Is there anything I can run on my backup (which is just a copy of my home directory using `rsync -a`) to see which, if any, of the data is corrupted?
[00:16] <EriC^^> hyuukai: install flash from the repositories, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-installer
[00:16] <EriC^^> hold on
[00:16] <EriC^^> !find flash
[00:16] <hardtail> eric^^: nothing happens when I press those buttons
[00:16] <daftykins> linelevel: no idea i'm afraid, you can only do comparisons to existing data which could already be corrupted depending on where these bad sectors are
[00:16] <EriC^^> hyuukai: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[00:17] <hyuukai> EriC^^, thanks bud
[00:17] <EriC^^> hyuukai: i think you have to have the multiverse repository enabled
[00:17] <EriC^^> no problem
[00:17] <hyuukai> how do i enable that?
[00:17] <EriC^^> hyuukai: open the dash and type software
[00:18] <hyuukai> yep
[00:18] <linelevel> daftykins: So there are 82 reallocated sectors (from #5)... where can I see how many that's out of so I know what % of the drive is corrupt?
[00:18] <EriC^^> hyuukai: click on software & updates and select the multiverse repository
[00:18] <EriC^^> hardtail: maybe try to boot the live usb with nomodeset
[00:19] <hyuukai> EriC^^, cant see an option for that
[00:19] <hyuukai> EriC^^, wait found it!
[00:19] <daftykins> linelevel: each sector is 512 bytes
[00:20] <linelevel> daftykins: Thanks.
[00:20] <linelevel> so unlikely to have hit much of my important data
[00:20] <tafa2> hi guys does anyone know how I can prevent the display from going to sleep from the command line?
[00:20] <daftykins> linelevel: the problem is that yours are cascading, so it's possible that your drive has one head scraping the platter surface or some other failure that'll spread
[00:20] <hardtail> eric^^ how do i do that?
[00:21] <daftykins> linelevel: if you are confident in your backups, i would zero the entire disk which would force the drive to discover all bad sectors and remap them
[00:21] <EriC^^> tafa2: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver idle-activation-enabled false
[00:21] <EriC^^> ( i think )
[00:22] <linelevel> daftykins: Undersood, but doesn't it mean that in my last backup from last night, there are at most 512B * 82 = 41 KB of bad data?
[00:22] <tafa2> EriC^^ cool! I think I should have specified that im using xubuntu?
[00:22] <compdoc> linelevel, the drive is beginning to fail. you should replace it
[00:23] <linelevel> compdoc: No question there. Replacement already ordered. That doesn't answer my last question, though.
[00:23] <EriC^^> hardtail: hold shift while the live usb boots, and press e over the default entry that boots, and add nomodeset to the line that starts with Linux vmlinuz .... and press ctrl+x to execute it
[00:23] <compdoc> whats the question?
[00:23] <EriC^^> tafa2: not sure if it matters
[00:23] <daftykins> linelevel: well you know how your system is locking down the disk after some points of usage? that's it reading or writing or modifying a file on disk that's in another bad spot, so at present it's maybe not discovered them all. you might get lucky and them be in blank space though
[00:23] <m4t> anyone got libvirt-bin to start via systemd?
[00:23] <EriC^^> tafa2: try gsettings list-recursively | grep idle
[00:23] <tafa2> will do thanks
[00:23]  * aceanimations ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.1 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 ** CPU: AMD A8-5545M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics    (1.00 GHz) ** RAM: 7364 MB Total (4800 MB Free) ** VGA: AMD Radeon(TM) HD 8510G ** Uptime: 1.97 Hours **
[00:23] <EriC^^> tafa2: see if you get that option
[00:23] <linelevel> daftykins: Okay, makes sense. So what utility would you use to zero the disk? wipe? srm?
[00:24] <aceanimations> those are my specs can i use ubuntu?
[00:24] <compdoc> zeroing the disk is a bad idea. its not going to help anything
[00:24] <EriC^^> tafa2: no problem
[00:24] <linelevel> compdoc: daftykins' idea was to zero it to force it to discover all currently bad sectors.
[00:25] <daftykins> linelevel: i'd dd zero fill the disk
[00:25] <hardtail> eric^^ do I add nomodeset after the -- ?
[00:25] <daftykins> compdoc: it'll detect any further bad sectors and cause the remaps to complete. nothing wrong with that.
[00:25] <EriC^^> hardtail: what's it say before -- ?
[00:26] <EriC^^> hardtail: i've never tried this before
[00:26]  * aceanimations ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.1 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 ** CPU: AMD A8-5545M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics    (1.00 GHz) ** RAM: 7364 MB Total (4660 MB Free) ** VGA: AMD Radeon(TM) HD 8510G ** Uptime: 2.01 Hours **
[00:26] <aceanimations> those are my specs can i use ubuntu?
[00:26] <linelevel> daftykins: And after doing that, if I run smartctl, it will tell me the total # of bad sectors that existed at the time of the `dd`, right?
[00:26] <linelevel> Just checking my understanding.
[00:26] <arthurfiggis> daftykins: yeah, i was under the impression it worked that way as well? at least with modern hard drives, if it detects bad sectors during a complete reformat it'll tend to remap them to locations where they (hopefully) won't corrupt anything
[00:26] <hardtail> eric^^ it says linux    /casper/vmlinuz.efi file=/cdrom/pressed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper quiet splash --
[00:26] <daftykins> linelevel: #5 will increment to include the values from '197
[00:26] <daftykins> * #197
[00:26] <EriC^^> ok add nomodeset after splash
[00:27] <daftykins> arthurfiggis: yep
[00:27] <linelevel> daftykins: and possibly more that it hasn't yet discovered, right?
[00:27] <daftykins> linelevel: yep, keep this pastebin link bookmarked and compare before and after, etc
[00:28] <compdoc> files are damaged, and if its a system disk its just a matter of time before a critical system files are damaged and it wont boot anymore. what happens is, the bad sectors will continue to grow. damaging more and more files as it goes.
[00:28] <daftykins> linelevel: your disk isn't very large so it won't take too long "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of =/dev/sda bs=2M"
[00:28] <aceanimations> WILL SOMEONE ANSWER ME
[00:28] <daftykins> compdoc: yes i have said this, but the user wants to use it in the meantime. my advice is to find out how bad the damage is.
[00:28] <daftykins> aceanimations: not with that attitude no
[00:28] <linelevel> daftykins: So let's say I run `dd` on it every day for a month, testing it with smartctl after each re-zeroing, and after the first `dd`, the # of bad sectors never increases... would it then be relatively safe to start using that disk again?
[00:28] <aceanimations> daftykins, im sorry
[00:28] <aceanimations> can you please answer me?
[00:29] <daftykins> linelevel: i would never use a disk again after even a handful of bad sectors, i'd throw that thing in electronics recycling :)
[00:29] <daftykins> life is too short to use unreliable storage
[00:29] <compdoc> deleting the partition and restoring your files only makes sure you damage even more files. just leave it alone
[00:29] <compdoc> its a bad idea
[00:29] <daftykins> the user has backups, your comments are unfounded
[00:29] <hardtail> eric^^ when i try control + x it just adds x to the ediot
[00:30] <arthurfiggis> aceanimations: the specs that you're listing are certainly enough to run Ubuntu...the question mark would be the AMD Radeon GPU. This is just my experience, others might disagree, but...I've found that for 3d acceleration at least, there aren't really any very good drivers for AMD cards, not even the official ones. If you're only doing regular desktop stuff, browsing around on the internet,...
[00:30] <CRCinAU> so I'm still trying to get Ubuntu to install on Xen.... I posted this: http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/problems-installing-ubuntu-on-xen-kernel-problems/1952
[00:30] <arthurfiggis> ...Radeon will probably be fine...if you want 3d acceleration you'll want to install the official drivers, and hopefully your card is better supported than the one I sold recently :(
[00:30] <EriC^^> hardtail: try f10
[00:30] <CRCinAU> any ideas at all on where I can chase this up?
[00:30] <aceanimations> pl arthurfiggis
[00:30] <hardtail> eric^^ screen is wiped again
[00:31] <hardtail> eric^^ i lied...it hanged for a bit now the ubuntu logo is there with the preloader...not sure if its gonna work
[00:32] <aceanimations> thx arthurfiggis
[00:32] <charlie_> hello everyone
[00:33] <arthurfiggis> aceanimations: no problem :) and like i said the radeon problem seemed to be a problem whenever i tried a radeon card...that was a long time ago, the official drivers are likely a lot better now so i'd not be discouraged and give it a try! there are open and closed source drivers for amd cards and depending on what you have it seems like one works better than the other...so i'd try both and...
[00:33] <arthurfiggis> ...whatever works (and doesn't crash), stick with that :)
[00:33] <charlie_> I am running lubuntu 12.04 lts and I have an IOGear bluetooth dongle, I cannot get it to come up under blueman
[00:33] <linelevel> daftykins: compdoc: Yeah, I'll never trust it again. I was just asking to check my understanding. If the # of bad sectors stop increasing despite repeated zero-ing, that indicates that the problem probably isn't spreading quickly at least, I would think.
[00:33] <charlie_> it is not recognizing it
[00:34] <CRCinAU> bueller?
[00:34] <Greylocks> aceanimations: reading this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/installation-guide/en.armhf/ch02.html
[00:34] <aceanimations> pl
[00:34] <aceanimations> ok
[00:34] <daftykins> linelevel: yeah, maybe zero it twice and see if the numbers jump
[00:34] <arthurfiggis> linelevel: mmm...depends on what the problem with the drive is really, though that's not a very good answer, sorry. :) i do know that if you start zeroing/formatting the disks and the number of bad sectors _increase_...then it's going to get worse, probably quickly
[00:35] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: sorry got distracted by pain in my mouth (hate this kind of pain) you make any progress on that?
[00:35] <aceanimations> guys how come in ubuntu my gpu might suffer?
[00:35] <arthurfiggis> linelevel: so i'd keep an eye on that...though as you already have a new drive coming and backups, sounds like you're going to be just fine :)
[00:35] <l2ksolkov> wafflej0ck, not really.
[00:35] <wafflej0ck> aceanimations: suffer how also have you installed or checked for additional drivers
[00:35] <linelevel> arthurfiggis: Yeah, thanks.
[00:35] <aceanimations> im on windows atm
[00:35] <linelevel> As far as bad disks go, would you say I caught this problem pretty early?
[00:36] <daftykins> aceanimations: AMD graphics support is notorious for being rubbish in Linux
[00:36] <arthurfiggis> aceanimations: it might not at all, as i say it's just been my experience that ATI/AMD cards aren't very well supported in Linux in general...you might try the same drivers on different hardware and have no problems at all, the only way to know for sure would be to try it, switch drivers to see which ones work the best :)
[00:36] <linelevel> 82 bad sectors doesn't sound like much, but maybe it was alrady 10 a year ago, for all I know.
[00:36] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: okay so if you don't set any manual settings in the ethernet on the client and it does connect to the internet could you show those settings too for the IP status
[00:36] <aceanimations> ok arthurfiggis and daftykins thx for the help
[00:37] <l2ksolkov> wafflej0ck, via ipconfig?
[00:37] <daftykins> np
[00:37] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: yup that works
[00:37] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: just want to see what does work vs what isn't working and see if we can incrementally change things to see what difference in the manual config breaks it exactly
[00:37] <charlie_> when I do lsusb for the bluetooth dongle I get this
[00:37] <charlie_> Bus 006 Device 005: ID 0a5c:4500 Broadcom Corp. BCM2046B1 USB 2.0 Hub (part of BCM2046 Bluetooth)
[00:37] <arthurfiggis> daftykins: that's pretty much what i wanted to say but i didn't want to come off as insulting to anyone with an AMD card :P but yeah, overall support for AMD GPU's in Linux is a shambles...if i can at all, i tend to buy computers with either an nvidia card or an intel gpu, since their open source drivers seem to actually work
[00:37] <charlie_> but it wont come up under blueman
[00:38] <EriC^^> hardtail: ok
[00:38] <acerspyro> > You have to download a total of 1,031 M. This download will take about 8 minutes with your connection.
[00:38] <acerspyro> LOL
[00:38] <l2ksolkov> wafflej0ck, i have to go somewhere, ill be about maybe 10 min.
[00:38] <aceanimations> ok arthurfiggis
[00:38] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: k cool
[00:38] <acerspyro> daftykins: No problem so far here, using proprietary AMD drivers on a Radeon Mobility HD 5470
[00:39] <CRCinAU> ok - so - seeing as I can't find anyone who has done a net install of Ubuntu on Xen, where do I go to file bug reports?
[00:39] <charlie_> and help?
[00:39] <charlie_> someone
[00:39] <daftykins> acerspyro: anecdotal evidence doesn't cover an entire industry
[00:39] <acerspyro> daftykins: I know that
[00:39] <acerspyro> Just sayin'
[00:39] <daftykins> no point saying then if you know that my friend :)
[00:39] <acerspyro> I do hope that ATI will one day fix their drivers. It's prolly going to be faster here too
[00:40] <acerspyro> I never saw Windows on this comp
[00:40] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: really need to narrow down where the problem lies to know who to report the bug to and what info you should include
[00:40] <CRCinAU> wafflej0ck: http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/problems-installing-ubuntu-on-xen-kernel-problems/1952
[00:41] <CRCinAU> I started with that - but as a non-ubuntu user, I couldn't find a traditional bug reporting area on the web site :\
[00:42] <spirit88> hello all
[00:42] <spirit88> have a quick question
[00:42] <hardtail> eric^^: seems to be hanging at the installation wizard.not sure if this is normal or now
[00:42] <daftykins> ask away
[00:43] <spirit88> had an update go bad, reinstalled on a different partition (smaller)
[00:43] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: pretty sure ubuntu itself uses launchpad for the bugs but would be curious if you can reproduce the problem with another distro to see if it's a problem with the Xen configuration or execution or the ubuntu image you're using or what?
[00:43] <aceanimations> spirit88, ok ok?
[00:43] <spirit88> is there a way i could CPIO the required files over to the old broken partion and have any hope of it working?
[00:43] <CRCinAU> wafflej0ck: same config (obviously using different vmlinuz / initrd images) works for RHEL6 & debian
[00:43] <br1ckd> I'm running Ubuntu Server 14.04 (w/ stock kernel) and trying to set up cgroups but the memory.memsw.limit_in_bytes file isn't in the cgroup VFS. I'm following the official kernel documentation at https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt Anyone know why it's not working?
[00:44] <EriC^^> hardtail: like before you mean? if not which part of the installation wizard?
[00:44] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: okay cool think you would want to find the right section in here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[00:44] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: sorry can't be of any help on the Xen part though as I have 0 experience with it
[00:45] <l2ksolkov> wafflej0ck, paste.ubuntu.com/8696085
[00:46] <CRCinAU> wafflej0ck: thats cool - I've never used ubuntu before - and all I can say is that the site etc seems very....... marketting orientated - and a SOL if you have a problem ;)
[00:46] <EriC^^> spirit88: what went bad with the upgrade?
[00:46] <CRCinAU> awww man - I have to create an Ubuntu One account to report a bug? L\
[00:46] <spirit88> I think one of the gnu C libraries crapped out mid install
[00:47] <hardtail> eric^^ - the part where is says ubuntu has 6.5 gb of space. now it says. "the installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions: /dev/mmcblk0" do you want the installer to try to unmount the partitions on these disks before continuing? if you leave them mounted you will not be able to create, delete or resize partitions on these disks but you may be able to install to existing partitions there.
[00:47] <daftykins> Ubuntu One is dead, maybe a single sign on account
[00:47] <daftykins> idk
[00:47] <hardtail> so since i want to wipe everything and install ubuntu i should unmount it then?
[00:47] <EriC^^> hardtail: yeah, you can unmount that i guess
[00:47] <spirit88> ERIC^^:  It was frozen for what appeared to be days
[00:48] <hardtail> eric^^ ok thank you we will see what it does. very slow
[00:48] <EriC^^> spirit88: why don't you back everything up, and reinstall?
[00:50] <arthurfiggis> spirit88: i don't think i've ever had an upgrade from one linux distribution to another go completely smoothly...then again i can say the same thing for windows :) that being said, i would probably check to make sure there isn't some hardware problem first...you wouldn't want to waste a load of time trying to copy files from one installation to another only to find out it's a bad hard drive...
[00:50] <arthurfiggis> ...and that won't fix it, you know
[00:50] <spirit88> Eric^^:  that would be the right way to do it I suppose,  but it is the kids pc, I am not sure what they  have installed where
[00:50] <CRCinAU> wtf
[00:51] <CRCinAU> the Report a bug link goes to the wiki on bug reporting etiquette.....
[00:51] <spirit88> arthurfiggis:  don't think it is hardware, I am on the machine now, but on an alternate boot method
[00:51] <EriC^^> spirit88: you could get a list of the installed packages, and copy the /home directory, then reinstall the packages and copy the /home back
[00:51] <EriC^^> spirit88: ask them if they have any files somewhere else before i guess
[00:51] <spirit88> I am most concerned on gettingt heir games and stuff over, and saved games, and god know where all theat crap is
[00:52] <hardtail> eric^^ i am wiping the 32 gbs on the tablet and its going to attempt install. ... crosses fingers
[00:52] <EriC^^> hardtail: ok
[00:52] <spirit88> Eric^^ LOL they are 9 and 7... I can ask, the answer woudl be humorous i am sure :)
[00:52] <EriC^^> hehe
[00:53] <CRCinAU> ok - so if the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+filebug (Report a bug) link goes to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[00:53] <CRCinAU> how the smeg do you actually lodge a bug report?
[00:53] <spirit88> well I think I am going to copy over /usr to the old partition and see what happens
[00:53] <spirit88> we will see what happens
[00:54] <spirit88> ton of sym links make be an issue
[00:54] <EriC^^> maybe if you try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it might help?
[00:54] <spirit88> thanks for the cycles  folks !!  (Feels Eric Reinstall coming my way)
[00:55] <EriC^^> if you do decide to reinstall
[00:55] <EriC^^> use this command
[00:55] <EriC^^> comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)
[00:55] <spirit88> give me a manafest of where it dies?
[00:56] <EriC^^> it will list the installed packages
[00:56] <spirit88> sweet
[00:56] <spirit88> thanks
[00:56] <EriC^^> no problem
[00:58] <CRCinAU> ok - this whole launchpad thing is bullshit.
[00:59] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: hmm sorry if I misguided you here thought it was straightforward but really haven't used it aside from finding bugs, watch the language though the ops in here try to keep it family friendly
[00:59] <CRCinAU> wafflej0ck: oh - its the right place.... but every time I click the "Report a bug" link, even after registering, I get dumped at a wiki page.
[01:00] <CRCinAU> I ended up here -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[01:00] <CRCinAU> that takes me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs when I try to use the "Report a bug" link
[01:00] <CRCinAU> which is a static wiki page
[01:02] <TekNinja> hi
[01:02] <arthurfiggis> CRCinAU: no idea why that would be happening, i followed all the links that you listed and they all led me to the ubuntu one signin page
[01:02] <l2ksolkov> hi TekNinja
[01:02] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: ah I see
[01:02] <CRCinAU> arthurfiggis: I signed in :
[01:02] <CRCinAU> :\
[01:02] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: you need to use apport apparently
[01:02] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Complete_the_bug_report_filing_process
[01:03] <wafflej0ck> it is weird
[01:03] <potatoes_> I have a bash script that is basically catting out multiple files, so file1.txt file2.txt how do I echo out the current file it's catting out it's loop iteration?
[01:03] <CRCinAU> ffs
[01:03] <CRCinAU> that is 110% useless.
[01:04] <CRCinAU> potatoes_: for i in *.txt; do echo $i; cat $i >> output.txt; done
[01:05] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: ubuntu-bug doesn't work for ya? seems like that's the "general purpose" answer
[01:06] <CRCinAU> wafflej0ck: I don't even have ubuntu installed ;)
[01:06] <CRCinAU> that's the whole problem - can't get it to install ;)
[01:06] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: ah right *face palm*
[01:06] <CRCinAU> and its something to do with the xen images that are published here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/xen/
[01:11] <CRCinAU> I can't believe in this day and age something as simple as filing a bug is so complex
[01:11] <CRCinAU> I haven't had any of these issues on github / redhat / debian and just about any other major project :\
[01:12] <daftykins> i would think there'd be other people in here kicking up a stink if what you say is true, CRCinAU
[01:12] <CRCinAU> I kinda thought I was a little unfair on Ubuntu thinking it was a bit of a braindead project - but I'm starting to reconsider that :\
[01:12] <daftykins> now feel free to continue to comment in #ubuntu-offtopic but this isn't a channel for venting ones spleen
[01:13] <CRCinAU> well - thats the interesting part - if I use the debian vmlinuz - with the ubuntu initrd, I get the installer screen
[01:13] <CRCinAU> but different kernel versions mean no network drivers etc etc etc
[01:13] <CRCinAU> if I use the ubuntu vmlinuz, nothing works :\
[01:15] <CRCinAU> its almost like the vmlinuz was built incorrectly for the install on Xen - even though its a xen netboot image
[01:15] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: have you tried any Xen focused chats might have more luck with other Xen users?
[01:15] <Pinkamen1_D> what desktop enviro supports having two seperate video cards and spanning the desktop across them
[01:15] <CRCinAU> its fine if you use the xl console (ie log into the Xen host), but we use VNC
[01:15] <CRCinAU> wafflej0ck: yeah - nobody admits to installing Ubuntu ;)
[01:17] <CRCinAU> to install only using the hvc0 console, you have to give everyone root access to the Xen Dom0 - which is not going to happen
[01:17] <CRCinAU> the VNC console that is an emulated video card etc doesn't need any of that.
[01:18] <BuffyBZ> I just rebooted my ubuntu 12.04 (I think) server with md raid5 boot drive, got got a grub2 error saying disk not found. I have downloaded the live cd, and am getting the bootinfo script. Is there a channel that specializes in help with raid or boot issues?
[01:18] <CRCinAU> BuffyBZ: since when you can boot off a md RAID5?
[01:19] <CRCinAU> I was pretty sure it was RAID1 only for /boot at the most (and really, the boot doesn't use the RAID1)
[01:20] <BuffyBZ> CRCinAU, Sorry, the root fs is raid 5. not sure where the boot was.
[01:21] <l2ksolkov> wafflej0ck, did you get my last message? i think my internet might have cut out.
[01:21] <wafflej0ck> yeah saw it actually just didn't flip back to start looking at how to reconfigure it
[01:21] <CRCinAU> BuffyBZ: I'm going to guess you haven't made an /etc/mdadm.conf - therefore the initrd doesn't have a copy of the RAID layout to progress past the kernel boot
[01:23] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: basically deal is they need to end up on the same subnet so the subnet mask should be the same, but would need to look at how the connection sharing on linux determines the IP to use for the shared connection
[01:24] <hardtail> eric^^ it installed rebooting now
[01:24] <BuffyBZ> CRCinAU, The server has been running raid5 for quite a while, and rebooted a few times since going to raid5. In fact I rebooted yesterday with no issues.
[01:26] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: other thing that needs to happen is every device on the network needs to have a unique IP, conflicts will cause problems, beyond that part the DNS needs to be able to resolve for you to connect through a regular browser using domains, but if you can ping across the network then everything but the dns is good
[01:27] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: problem is we need to start with, where is it getting that 10.*.*.* address for the ethernet connection and how do we change it
[01:27] <hardtail> if ubuntu loading  bars are frozen should i just power off and on?
[01:28] <wafflej0ck> hardtail: yeah if you're stuck at the shutdown screen you can just power off and power on, you could also check if you can get to a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F1 you might want to drop the output of dmesg somewhere to see what's failing
[01:28] <l2ksolkov> wafflej0ck, the 10.*.*.* seems to be the default for ICS
[01:29] <hardtail> wafflej0ck hmm, it is not responsive to ctrl alt f1
[01:33] <lkthomas> hey guys, is there have a way to disable apparmor logging ?
[01:33] <jac1d> Just trying to install 14.04 on an older mobo with NVidia GF9400 onboard graphics.  I've run afoul of the apparently common problem of "no screens found" when you try and start x
[01:33] <jac1d> I have read that I may need to sert a BUSID line in the xorg.conf file (why, I can't even imagine?!) but I can't find the file??  where do I set this, or any other ideas welse
[01:33] <jac1d> welcome
[01:34] <BuffyBZ> So in live cd I install mdadm, re-assembled the array and it looks fine. I did a modprobe dm-mod, then a vgchange -ay, and the root fs popped up in nautalis. So the fs and array look okay.
[01:34] <daftykins> !nomodeset | jac1d try this
[01:36] <Guest48999> just out of curiousness since Ubuntu Names versions are doing alphabetical thing when it hits Z would it start over back to A?
[01:36] <daftykins> who knows, hardly a showstopper of a situation though
[01:36] <hardtail> uh oh. after rebooting now the screen just flashes tints of black,..now what? haha
[01:38] <wafflej0ck> hardtail: what were you doing before the reboot, are you aware of and/or have used nomodeset boot parameter
[01:39] <farva> Hello, I have multiple java processes and I need to stop one of them, when I use HTOP I cannot kill the processes, how can I stop that one process without effecting the other java processes?
[01:40] <BuffyBZ> farva, did you user start the processes, or are they owned by another user?
[01:40] <farva> I started the process
[01:40] <hardtail> wafflej0ck i was installing ubuntu with nomodeset boot parameter yes. once it completed it said reboot
[01:40] <farva> I have full perms for the server
[01:41] <BuffyBZ> farva, When you say you cant kill them with htop, why not?  If that doesnt work, try a sudo kill -9 [pid]
[01:44] <BuffyBZ> farva, The first sends a request asking the process to TERMinate. The second KILLs it.
[01:45] <farva> sudo kill -9 [pid] worked
[01:45] <farva> thank you Buffy <3
[01:45] <BuffyBZ> farva, no probs, your welcome.
[01:45] <farva> =]
[01:47] <BuffyBZ> So I have managed to mount my raid5 array and get my LV mounted in a live cd. I know which disk had grub installed. I can see /boot inside the LV. How do I reinstall grub2 to fix the issue when grub reports 'disk lvmid/[hash] not found' and drops to a grub rescue prompt?
[01:52] <hardtail> if using nomodeset to install ubuntu, then after reboot the screen flickers black what should you do?
[01:54] <bubbasaures> hardtail, repeat and rinse with a graphics driver.
[01:55] <hardtail> bubbasaures - what does that mean with a graphics driver?
[01:56] <bubbasaures> hardtail, Just sounds like you need a graphics driver, not all are autoloaded on a install.
[01:56] <hardtail> bubbasaures my apologies, i am not experienced with this. so how do i get one?
[01:57] <bubbasaures> hardtail, use the nomodeset boot, update and upgrade when in and check the additional drivers app.
[01:57] <wafflej0ck> hardtail: typically, you want to use "jockey" or "Additional Drivers" GUI to add or change the graphics drivers, nomodeset parameter should have it skip using any specific graphics drivers and use the generic drivers without acceleration
[01:57] <Bashing-om> hardtail: Ubuntu 14.04 ? , can you get to a terminal or console ? then try terminal command -> ubuntu-drivers autoinstall <- to install a proprietary driver.
[01:58] <hardtail> it wont accept any commands ctl alt f1 does not work
[01:58] <bubbasaures> !nomodeset | hardtail read the install boot
[02:00] <asdf-> i am running 14.04 but uname -r says my kernel is 2.6.32-042stab093.4
[02:00] <asdf-> i have installed 3.17 linux-headers and linux-image via dpkg
[02:00] <daftykins> that seems somewhat unlikely
[02:01] <BuffyNZ> Okay, I followed the guide to purge and reinstall grub2, and I still have the same issue. On boot I get error: disk 'lvmid/[hash]' not found, entering rescue mode.
[02:01] <asdf-> but even when i reboot it shows 2.6.32 as the kernel
[02:01] <daftykins> asdf-: pastebin "ls -al /boot"
[02:02] <asdf-> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/9D4JbXgz
[02:03] <daftykins> asdf-: "uname -a" ?
[02:03] <asdf-> daftykins, Linux w001 2.6.32-042stab093.4 #1 SMP Mon Aug 11 18:47:39 MSK 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:04] <daftykins> asdf-: and "cat /etc/issue" ?
[02:04] <asdf-> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[02:05] <hardtail> !nomodeset
[02:06] <asdf-> hardtail, is that for me?
[02:06] <hardtail> asdf- sorry no I have to read it for my problem
[02:06] <asdf-> daftykins, odd right?
[02:07] <daftykins> asdf-: i am very confused, it's almost like you're getting results from a system you're SSH'd to rather than your host
[02:07] <daftykins> and yet they're mixed in
[02:07] <neldogz> Hi all, it seems that swap is problematic 14.04 LTS when using an encrypted home directory. My swap partition is not mounting upon bootup
[02:07] <neldogz> anyone run into this problem?
[02:08] <asdf-> daftykins, all of the output you requested is a machine i am ssh'd into
[02:08] <asdf-> via a ssh client on windows
[02:08] <ajeet> hi all
[02:09] <arthurfiggis> neldogz: i have run into the exact same problem...whatever it is, it goes away if you -don't- use encrypted home directories. When i reinstalled and used full disk encryption instead, left the encrypted home directory unchecked, the swap file was mounted without issues
[02:10] <Bashing-om> daftykins: asdf- Odd agreed, booting version 14.04, but has the later 3.15 & 3.17 kernels. Curious what the synlinks are from -> ls -al / <- .
[02:10] <neldogz> arthurfiggis, thank you for confirming. I will do just that actually.
[02:10] <Bashing-om> symbolic links.
[02:11] <hardtail> bubbasaures - i read the instructions. i cant get to grub or open the terminal at all. non of the keyboard commands prompt anything
[02:11] <arthurfiggis> neldogz: no problem :) i wish i knew more about what was actually causing it, hopefully it's fixed in 14.10...but that seemed to solve it for me at least, so hopefully it'll work for you as well
[02:11] <Bashing-om> hardtail: EFI system ?
[02:11] <neldogz> arthurfiggis, i tried recreating it but same problem. I like the disk encryption idea better :)
[02:11] <bubbasaures> hardtail, Tapping the shift key at powering on gives no grub?
[02:11] <hardtail> bashing-om yes sir
[02:12] <hardtail> bubbasaures that is correct
[02:12] <bubbasaures> ah efi
[02:12] <vastkahuna> how do i check ubuntu for broken packages?
[02:12] <Bashing-om> hardtail: EFI then use the escape key to get grub's attention.
[02:12] <hardtail> um now i press the power button to shut off again and it says please select boot device - ubuntu or enter setup
[02:13] <asdf-> Bashing-om, ls -al / shows 3.17 as new and 3.15 as old
[02:14] <Bashing-om> hardtail: Do not know, but that advisory is generally considered a "bios" advisory .. sure you have an EFI system ?
[02:14] <asdf-> Bashing-om, i'm not sure how the uname -r is referencing the old kernel 2.6
[02:15] <hardtail> bashing-om would this help from the bios "launch efi shell from filesystem device"?
[02:15] <vastkahuna> how do i check ubuntu for broken packages?
[02:15] <Bashing-om> asdf-: Same here, puzzl'n thing .. daftykins: what would result if we " initramfs " this ?? .. As I do not know else ??
[02:16] <Bashing-om> hardtail: Well, that is EFI ! ..What results reboot and as soon as the boot screen clears repeated hit the escape key to get grub's attention ?
[02:17] <linman32> hi is it possible to tab through all windows w/ alt+tab? it doesn't list all of them
[02:17] <hardtail> bashing-om esc only prompts bios
[02:19] <Bashing-om> hardtail: Are you sure that ubuntu is installed ? from liveDVD terminal command -> sudo parted -l | pastebinit <- and we see what is, what .
[02:19] <hardtail> bashing-om i installed ubuntu from the usb. once it completed it told me to reboot then this happened. ill have to try to get "try ubuntu" with the usb
[02:20] <asdf-> Bashing-om, i'll give "initramfs" a shot... do i just type it as a command?
[02:20] <daftykins> Bashing-om: i'm totally lost on that one :) you're welcome to take over!
[02:21] <Bashing-om> hardtail: Booting with EFI is not an area of great knowledge with me .. If you installed ubuntu as MBR and the system is UEFI, there will be grub problems.
[02:21] <asdf->  cat /proc/version
[02:21] <asdf-> Linux version 2.6.32-042stab093.4 (root@kbuild-rh6-x64) (gcc version 4.4.6 20120305 (Red Hat 4.4.6-4) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Mon Aug 11 18:47:39 MSK 2014
[02:22] <asdf-> know what... this is a vps... the host runs red hat
[02:23] <hardtail> bashing-om i selected try ubuntu but the screen is just black again haha...
[02:23] <Bashing-om> daftykins: asdf- I am same same .. beyond my knowlege, depends on what one is willing to risk. but we could force the issue and see what does break and/or fix ???
[02:24] <daftykins> asdf-: aaaah so it's not just a desktop
[02:24] <daftykins> i had a feeling it was a little non-standard
[02:24] <daftykins> perhaps the kernel is the hypervisor's kernel
[02:24] <asdf-> daftykins, it is ubuntu server and i am ssh'd into it
[02:25] <Bashing-om> hardtail: What we have to do, is get to the grub boot options screen, F6 Key for the preset boot options, and choose the option nomodeset. See if that works to get to the desktop.
[02:26] <after_r> Hello...
[02:26] <Greylocks> linman32: try CTRL+ALT+TAB
[02:27] <after_r> is there a way to make the fans on my laptop to stop completely? I have macbook pro 8,3 and in OSX, when the system is not being used much, the fans are stopped so the laptop makes 0 noise... but in ubuntu they are always slightly running
[02:27] <hardtail> bashing-om right now. i can get to grub ver 2.02beta by loading the USB with menu options 1. try ubuntu without installing, install, oem install, check disc for defects - will this suffice?
[02:27] <linman32> Greylocks: it is tabbing through, but i meant different question. there are two chromes open. when i tab i would like to see both, if that makes sense
[02:28] <Bashing-om> hardtail: At the bottom of that screen is there F options ??
[02:29] <hardtail> bashing-om only e to edit and c f or command-line
[02:30] <Greylocks> linman32: right click on the launcher is the only way I know to do that. Perhaps someone else knows another way.
[02:31] <daftykins> after_r: it'll be down to a lack of official support so it would be unwise even if you could
[02:31] <Bashing-om> hardtail: Nope, do not think that is the screen we want .. Lemme reboot into a liveDVD and make sure of what I expect to see.
[02:31] <BuffyNZ> At the grub rescue prompt an ls shows (md/0), but an ls (md/0)/boot says disk md/0 not found.
[02:32] <hardtail> bashing-om alright thank you
[02:32] <Bashing-om> hardtail: Hold tight, and I will log out and be back soonest.
[02:32] <clu3> hi all i have SSH'ed into a remote machine, if i want to open a GUI program, say "gedit" on my computer, what do I have to do? Thanks I remember doing this but a very long time ago, some thing like export DISPLAY, any help pls
[02:33] <wafflej0ck> linman32: you might want to look for an alternate tab program think unity-tweak-tool lets u enable some alternate alt+tab displays
[02:33] <SchrodingersScat> clu3: yeah, you are looking for xforwarding, iirc
[02:33] <BuffyNZ> clu3, export your display back throught the X tunnel created by ssh.
[02:33] <linman32> Greylocks: ok that does work, thanks. maybe someone else knows..
[02:33] <AmnesiaHaze> why wouldnt you just use somthing like nanno thru ssh
[02:33] <linman32> wafflej0ck: thanks i will check it out
[02:33] <clu3> AmnesiaHaze, gedit is just an example
[02:34] <clu3> BuffyNZ, SchrodingersScat thanks
[02:34] <vastkahuna> How do I check ubuntu for broken packages?
[02:35] <hardtail> bashing-om no problem, thank you
[02:35] <BuffyNZ> I suspect I might be hitting this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1318568. Can I downgrade my grub to get it working on my system?
[02:35] <xangua> vastkahuna: would be better if youstated your actual problem
[02:36] <after_r> daftykins: what do you mean `it will be down to a lack of official support` ?
[02:36] <lkthomas> guys, what's diff between profile.d and environemt under /etc ?
[02:37] <vastkahuna> I just updated ubuntu and it said some things were not installed, and my cd player won't  play music cd
[02:37] <daftykins> after_r: well macs aren't meant to run Ubuntu
[02:37] <daftykins> or Linux in general
[02:37] <wafflej0ck> !mac
[02:37] <asdf-> daftykins, upon further investigation... the bug is real... i can reboot all of the nodes running
[02:38] <wafflej0ck> I've seen it done but never tried
[02:38] <asdf-> daftykins, thank you for helping me
[02:38] <daftykins> asdf-: no worries, heh how did you find out you could reboot all the others?
[02:39] <asdf-> daftykins, google... found others with the same problem and then found someone who found a way to exploit and posted a CVE link
[02:40] <BuffyNZ> I rebooted my Ubuntu 14.04.1 server with a raid5 LV root drive, and got a grub2 error saying disk '/lvmid/[hash]' not found. It then dropped me to a grub2 rescue prompt. I have downloaded the live cd, installed mdadm, remounted the root partition and tried purging and reinstalling grub. No change in behaviour. The system has been running an raid5 LV root for a long time. Can anyone help, I am reall
[02:40] <BuffyNZ> y stuck and can't get my server back up.
[02:41] <linman32> wafflej0ck: how is it possible to add <Alt>Tab to shortcut? it is not letting me
[02:41] <daftykins> asdf-: wow! can you tell me your provider?
[02:42] <wafflej0ck> linman32: hmm not sure what you mean?
[02:42] <BuffyNZ> At this stage I am considering re-installing from a fresh drive, remounting the LV and restoring the data.
[02:42] <wafflej0ck> linman32: trying to use the keyboard shortcuts screen?
[02:43] <linman32> wafflej0ck: it lets me change a shortcut key to letters or numbers. but it is not letting me use  <Alt>Tab
[02:43] <linman32> wafflej0ck: yeah, but in unity tweak tool. but looks similar
[02:43] <wafflej0ck> linman32: yeah it might be somehow "system reserved" I know remapping just he winkey is a problem too
[02:44] <wafflej0ck> linman32: you can typically work around these issues with xbindkeys or xmodmap but typically it's a little chunk of debugging and fiddling around to get it to map certain keys
[02:45] <wafflej0ck> linman32: would probably just try winkey tab or something though first to see if it does what you want before messing with anything else
[02:45] <linman32> wafflej0ck: thanks
[02:47] <Bashing-om> hardtail: OK, Hers the deal, boot the liveUSB, as soon as the purple splash screen appears depress the rught shift key -> language screen, escape ket -> boot options screen.
[02:48] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: sorry I abandoned your issue there just not sure what exactly to tell you on setting that up.... I've definitely done this the opposite way where I'm using windows as the host for  ICS and some SIP phone as a client but only did it once and not really recently
[02:48] <wafflej0ck> linman32: np
[02:48] <BuffyNZ> Is there anywhere I can buy paid support for my grub booting issue?
[02:48] <xangua> BuffyNZ: Canonical
[02:49] <BuffyNZ> xangua: two days to open a account?
[02:49] <hardtail> bashing-om Ok but I can't seem to acquire the purple splash screen. when I click install or try ubuntu the screen just changes black
[02:49] <wafflej0ck> BuffyNZ: yeah sorry no RAID experience so really no way I could possibly help, Canonical is probably a good starting point for where to find paid support
[02:50] <l2ksolkov> wafflej0ck, i'll probably just buy another wireless adapter for the windows pc, the one i currently have has a range of about 3 feet.
[02:51] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: yeah good call can get a USB adapter for pretty cheap too $20 should be good enough
[02:57] <BuffyNZ> wafflej0ck: Yeah, my issue if really specific, thanks for reading though, appreciate it
[03:02] <BuffyNZ> Okay, change of tack. I have access to my old root fs. I am rebuilding the server. Is there an easy way to find out which packages were installed from the old root fs and reinstall them on the new one?
[03:03] <wafflej0ck> BuffyNZ: you can check out your /var/log/dpkg.log that'll show anything installed with dpgk or apt-get, probably scripts to get just the package list too
[03:04] <wafflej0ck> BuffyNZ: looks like this post walks through a few steps to reinstall from dpkg.log http://askubuntu.com/questions/50622/how-to-reinstall-many-removed-packages-at-once
[03:05] <wafflej0ck> oh wait that's looking for removed ones thoguh I think... might need to change that a bit
[03:07] <wafflej0ck> ah also might have some older logs since that one "rolls over" it looks like
[03:07] <BuffyNZ> wafflej0ck, Yeah, this a four or five year old server, I think. :) Going back through the logs may be hard.
[03:08] <wafflej0ck> BuffyNZ: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages this is using apt-get but think you'd need to chroot probably?
[03:08] <BuffyNZ> wafflej0ck: I am going to try chrooting to the old root fs and ... Great minds think alike. :)
[03:09] <BuffyNZ> Heh, you know what, making the call to wipe the server and ditch dmraid is kind of freeing. raid != backup.
[03:11] <linuxmint> Hello, is anyone able to help with ssh remote access. It was working last week, but the same command doesn't work this week?
[03:11] <BuffyNZ> linuxmint: what command, any errors?
[03:11] <wafflej0ck> linuxmint: what feedback are you getting?
[03:12] <linuxmint> BuffyNZ: I can't ssh from outside public WAN into LAN machine behind pfSense. pfSense has the port forwarded, ssh works inside the LAN, I tried the commands ssh user@publicWANIP:portNumber, ssh user@publicWANIP -p portNumber and ssh -p portNumber@publicWANIP. Error: ssh: Could not resolve hostname publicWANIP: nodename nor servname provided, or not known
[03:13] <BuffyNZ> linuxmint: And you and using an IP, not a hostname/fqdn?
[03:14] <linuxmint> BuffyNZ: yes, using an IP like 60.225.320.2.
[03:14] <oaulakh> how to fix brightness value in ubuntu
[03:14] <oaulakh> means when i decrease my brightness, it goes again full brighten when i restart my system
[03:15] <oaulakh> how to fix brightness value in ubuntu, means when i decrease my brightness, it goes again full brighten when i restart my system
[03:15] <oaulakh> its like real pain in ass
[03:15] <oaulakh> please help
[03:16] <BuffyNZ> linuxmint:It does look like a forwarding issue.. Are you sure the forwarding rule is correct?
[03:17] <linuxmint> BuffyNZ: port forwarded to 8063 and worked last week?
[03:18] <linuxmint> BuffyNZ: not sure how to check apart from https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
[03:18] <BuffyNZ> oaulakh: Tried this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/151651/brightness-is-reset-to-maximum-on-every-restart
[03:18] <nomic> oaulakh -- I just turn it down when I log in
[03:20] <oaulakh> its not a solution i think, means change brightness after every login
[03:22] <BuffyNZ> linuxmint:Not sure what to suggest sorry. Could be a number of things, a new firewall in place, on either the server, your client, or the router, or a rule that changed after a reboot... ssh server changed ports, ssh server not running..
[03:22] <oaulakh> its really a pain
[03:23] <ubuntuaddicted> my friend has a weird situation.  if he runs steam from a terminal he can connect to my borderlands 2 game and has audio from the game BUT if he starts steam from the menu entry he can't connect and he has no sound. he's verified the command he's running in the terminal is the same command in the menu entry. why is this? something about ENV variables? how does he track down this issue
[03:24] <linuxmint> BuffyNZ: that's ok. The trick I find is trying to troubleshoot to find the problem. Port scanner is a bit unreliable as it shows most ports as Stealth, but I know they are open and work. I might have to check at the packet leve.
[03:25] <BuffyNZ> linuxmint:It is interesting you getting nodename nor servname provided, or not known rather than connection refused..
[03:26] <lancemurdock> test
[03:26] <lancemurdock> hello?
[03:27] <wafflej0ck> lancemurdock: it worked
[03:27] <BuffyNZ> ubuntuaddicted:You could try setting up a menu entry that echos env to a file, then in a command prompt echo env to another file, then compare the two with meld.
[03:27] <lancemurdock> haha nice thanks
[03:27] <wafflej0ck> lancemurdock: you have an ubuntu support question? if not #ubuntu-offtopic is for general chit chat
[03:28] <ubuntuaddicted> BuffyNZ, how would he setup an echo env to a file?
[03:29] <BuffyNZ> ubuntuaddicted:Are you asking how to create a menu entry, how to echo env to a file, or both?
[03:29] <wafflej0ck> printenv >> ~/somefile.txt
[03:30] <wafflej0ck> dunno about the Steam entries though haven't fiddled with those at all
[03:30] <wafflej0ck> oh also just needed > not >> (append)
[03:30] <ubuntuaddicted> BuffyNZ, i think he knows how to create a menu entry, not sure what the command would be to echo env to a file though
[03:31] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: printenv like I wrote there should work
[03:31] <ubuntuaddicted> wafflej0ck, i missed that cause my name wasn't tagged. thank you
[03:32] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: ah yup sorry left out the name originally
[03:32] <Guest90124> hello everybody,this is my first time to login in xchat
[03:33] <wafflej0ck> hello Guest90124 if you have ubuntu questions ask away always join up the #ubuntu-offtopic for more general conversation
[03:33] <ubuntuaddicted> Guest90124, hello, welcome
[03:33] <wafflej0ck> -always/otherwise
[03:34] <Guest90124> ok thanks
[03:39] <ubuntuaddicted> wafflej0ck, ok, i created a menu entry using menu editor in xubuntu 14.04 and for the command i typed in "printenv >> ~/somefile.txt"  without the quotes but when I click the menu entry no file gets created in my home folder?
[03:39] <rr1991> Simple question for Ubuntu Desktop 14.04: I want to change my user password to something that is both 'too short' and 'not good enough'. I know , not supersafe, but I want that. Can it be done? I remember it was possible for early versions of ubuntu. Thank you
[03:41] <ubuntuaddicted> rr1991, you can set whatever password for your user you want to the best of my knowledge
[03:42] <BuffyNZ> rr1991: 'sudo passwd <login>' will override any password complexity requirements
[03:42] <BuffyNZ> rr1991:Run it from terminal
[03:43] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: not sure about the menuentry file you're referring to have a link by chance? if you just run that command in a terminal you should see the resulting file
[03:43] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: if not try just, printenv, it should output to the terminal
[03:44] <nate> Hello all
[03:44] <ubuntuaddicted> wafflej0ck, i can get printenv to work just fine within a terminal but what my goal is to find out what env variables are being used when I launch a command from a menu entry
[03:45] <rr1991> BuffyNZ: Thank you, that worked. It is the ubuntu software that wants us to stay safe ;) Cheers from Welly
[03:45] <dhruv_> hello
[03:45] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: also to note the >> actually means append the output of the first program into the file whereas just > means overwrite whatever is in the file with the output from the program
[03:45] <dhruv_> How do i make my camera work?
[03:45] <BuffyNZ> rr1991: Glad it helped, gidday from ChCh. :)
[03:46] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: you talking just .desktop files for the menu entries?
[03:47] <ubuntuaddicted> wafflej0ck, no, i just create a menu entry using alacarte
[03:48] <ubuntuaddicted> wafflej0ck, not sure if i should enable "Launch in Terminal" or not?
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a package that can enable/disable init.d systems services(like cups)
[03:49] <BuffyNZ> ubuntuaddicted:Can you tell how the steam menu option is configured?
[03:49] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: don't think that should matter, not sure if you can use a ; between commands in that exec box or not
[03:50] <ubuntuaddicted> BuffyNZ, can you recommend to me how to setup a menu entry that echos env to a file please?
[03:51] <ubuntuaddicted> BuffyNZ, i believe the command is /usr/games/steam %U
[03:53] <pieter_> hi
[03:54] <okimoyo> This should be a simple question but it's been vexing me. When I log into my ubuntu system (14.04) there is a nice system summary display. It's not coming from .bashrc, does anyone know which script is generating that
[03:55] <Guest27393> Hi guys, I'm having the same issue as the individuals in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2161232 . I believe the common thread is the CPU model. I am wondering if anyone knows a workaround besides using a DVD? I would use a DVD rom drive but the only one I have is an IDE and this new mobo I got doesn't have an IDE slot
[03:56] <somsip> okimoyo: /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profile are also run on login. Worth checking in those perhaps?
[03:56] <Guest27393> I would have made another thread about it but that thread got closed before there seemed to be a resolution so I didn't want to be disrespectful
[03:59] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: yeah not sure really just tried fiddling with a few ways of doing it in alacarte but nothing working
[04:02] <Bashing-om> Guest27393: There is nothing dis-respectful about saying you have a problem, and referencing that original thread. Sorry I do not have a solution to offer.
[04:02] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: if you can figure out how to run both commands in there though you could also check, whoami to see what user the process is running as since that could make a difference too
[04:04] <ajeffri> Hello!
[04:07] <Guest27393> Is there a similiar distrobution I can try?
[04:07] <ajeffri> I just want to say (rather, the wine just wants to say) that I use Ubuntu or Debian on all of my work linux servers. I run Debian and Mint at home. Love the whole Debian/Ubuntu eco-system
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> i found rcconf to enable/disable services, cups shows disabled but still shows in pstree, how is that possible?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> !info rcconf
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> service --status-all also shows cups still running and i manually removed it from update-rc_d last time?
[04:17] <ajeffri> I need to go, but I will check in soon...
[04:19] <wafflej0ck> Guest27393: plenty of distros out there, you might want to check out RedHat or SuSe they are pretty polished as well and not part of the main Debian line of Linux that Ubuntu and some of it's related distros come from, but believe RedHat is using Gnome 3 now and SuSe is using KDE so on the surface you can check out some other Linux distros that use the same desktop environments you could use in Ubuntu but the underlying package
[04:19] <wafflej0ck> managers and other system components would be different
[04:20] <nusr> sorry i need to ask this here. the ipython people are asleep. or maybe the question is too basic.. i have defined a function in ipython. what keys do i press to exit the function?
[04:22] <Guest27393> wafflej0ck, is there a way of upgrading debian to ubuntu?
[04:23] <xangua> Guest27393: no, backup, install linux distro of your choice
[04:24] <Guest27393> xangua, wish I could install Ubuntu, but this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216123 applies to me
[04:24] <wafflej0ck> Guest27393: no they have different repositories of packages, in a large part that's what makes up a "distro" so it's typically not trivial to just switch ditros since you would have a bunch of packages from different repositories that may have incompatibilities (also the package managers themselves are different in many cases though I'm not sure between Ubuntu and Debian how far all the tools have diverged)
[04:26] <Guest27393> wafflej0ck, understood
[04:38] <Guest27393> I wish this worked :(
[04:39] <Guest27393> uhh wrong link
[04:39] <edition> third day: still cannot start Rigs of Rods.
[04:40] <Loshki> Guest27393: I run ubuntu on the hardware and debian inside virtualbox...
[04:46] <Guest27393> Loshki, I just wanna install ubuntu on my new box. But USB sticks load for my CPU model
[04:46] <Guest27393> woe is me
[04:46] <Guest27393> Hopefully they fix it with a new update
[04:48] <edition> is there an updated page, on installing RoR for ubuntu?
[04:59] <edition> other games such as Xonotic, assaultcube, etc work fine.
[04:59] <edition> but RoR, and Flightgear either fail to start, or look bad.
[05:16] <croz> In this CL crash course the writer gives the reader a command to input: "find . -name "*.txt" -print". What's the point of the -print at the end if it prints it without that addition at the end?
[05:31] <ki7mt> croz, look at man find ; under actions, see: -print True; print the full file name on the standard output, followed by a  newline.
[05:37] <jesse_> Hello.  I'm unable to get DRM flash movies to play in Ubuntu with Google Play within Chrome.  I have hal and flashplugin-installer installed.  Google Play works fine under firefox.  I'm using 14.10.  ANy suggestions?
[05:39] <Viking667> 'llo all. I'm having weird results from glxgears and fgl_glxgears under Trusty with a Sapphire R9-270X (4Gb video memory). Both tell me the average frame rate is about 60FPS and about 300-ish frames.
[05:39] <Viking667> I used to get over 21,000 frames, so what on earth's changed?
[05:40] <cloudbud> hey how to create user in ubuntu and add sudo previleges to that user
[05:40] <cloudbud> i am following this tutorial : https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-add-and-delete-users-on-an-ubuntu-14-04-vps
[05:41] <saransh__> hi how to fix update for ubuntu 13.10
[05:41] <saransh__> ?
[05:41] <saransh__> error that i get on updating. http://s28.postimg.org/oqpdhbmql/ubuntu_error.png
[05:41] <xangua> saransh__: upgrade to a supported release
[05:41] <xangua> !eol
[05:41] <saransh__> actually i can't update that's why
[05:41] <saransh__> sorry upgrade
[05:42] <cloudbud> i am getting error  adduser admin adduser: The group `admin' already exists.
[05:44] <Flannel> cloudbud: What are you trying to accomplish?
[05:45] <cloudbud> Flannel : trying to create a sudo user in ubuntu
[05:45] <Flannel> cloudbud: What do you want said user's username to be?
[05:46] <cloudbud> admin
[05:46] <cloudbud> Flannel : admin
[05:47] <Flannel> cloudbud: You /can/ do that, but it won't be ideal (and it'll take extra steps).  There's already a group called "admin", and users all get their own group.  Which is what is causing that error (it can't create the 'admin' group, because it already exists)
[05:47] <cloudbud> Flannel : what should i do now
[05:47] <Flannel> cloudbud: Pick a different username, would be the easiest and least confusing.
[05:51] <saransh__> if i upgrade ubuntu without any backup, will i loose files
[05:51] <saransh__> ?
[05:52] <xangua> backups are always good idea, if your information is important to you
[05:52] <saransh__> xangua: that's why, actually i'm working on a project, which i will need to set up again, if i upgrade
[05:53] <saransh__> xangua: and i need to install some module from core which i can't install
[06:01] <OERIAS>
[06:01] <saransh__> xangua: can i use any  repo?
[06:01] <abram_> ok, I have an absurd problem. I hibernating my machine, and not it crashes on booting, but I can boot in console mode using a recovery option from grub...
[06:01] <abram_> how do I wipe out the hibernate state?
[06:01] <OERIAS> any chance of upgrade ubuntu 6.06 to 14.04?
[06:02] <Flannel> OERIAS: through 8.04, 10.04, and 12.04
[06:02] <abram_> OERIAS: holy cow, you're runing 6.06? ;-)
[06:02] <abram_> OERIAS: I would recommend simply starting from a fresh 14.04. Otherwise you're in for a long tedious process
[06:02] <abram_> that will likely break things
[06:02] <abram_> one single dist-upgrade is bad enough
[06:02] <OERIAS> abram_, Flannel I can't restart from scratch
[06:03] <abram_> OERIAS: sure you can. Just install a fresh system and copy your files
[06:03] <abram_> all the state on your existing system can be moved to a new one
[06:03] <OERIAS> no, i was specifically not to
[06:03] <Bashing-om> OERIAS: Verry slim to none at all .. Way too much has changed in the Opersying system since then, And the time & bandwidth is tremendous !
[06:03] <OERIAS> Bashing-om, via full dvd?
[06:04] <abram_> OERIAS: not being able to simply start with a fresh install is an unreasonable requirement in your situation
[06:04] <OERIAS> abram_, I know, but the requirements are set
[06:04] <Flannel> OERIAS: You can go 6.06 to 8.04 to 10.04 to 12.04 to 14.04.  This was already stated.  It's not going to be fun or elegant, but it'll work.
[06:04] <abram_> anyway, there's got to be a way to wipe the hibernation state... I couldn't find anything with googling
[06:04] <OERIAS> Flannel, via Full dvd, right?
[06:04] <abram_> Usually when I do a dist-upgrade, something gets funky, and I waste a lot of time fixing it
[06:05] <Flannel> OERIAS: No.
[06:05] <OERIAS> how Flannel ?
[06:05] <abram_> sudo do-release-upgrade
[06:05] <Bashing-om> !eol | OERIAS
[06:05] <Flannel> OERIAS: Online repositories, since you need to be fully-updated on X (which isn't the DVDs) to go to X+4 without major headaches.
[06:06] <OERIAS> Flannel, i thought the repos were killed ages ago
[06:07] <Flannel> OERIAS: No, see the link ubottu just gave you.
[06:09] <saransh__> if i remove raring from sources.list, that would work ?
[06:10] <pantato> Ok, I'm sorry if it this is going to annoy anyone, I asked this question earlier and didn't get much of a response, but there's more activity in the room now so I figure I'll ask one more time: Does anyone know a solution to this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2161232  ?
[06:11] <abram_> where is the hibernate state file stored? There is a massive amount of config in /etc/hibernate/* and I can't find it
[06:15] <abram_> there's "UseSysfsPowerState disk", but I don't know what that's refering to.
[06:16] <abram_> What's the default resume device, and where does it point to?
[06:16] <abram_> I guess I could just dd /dev/zero onto the resume device if I knew what it was
[06:16] <abram_> where's the flag that says that a resume image exists?
[06:17] <abram_> Maybe I could just `apt-get remove hibernate pm-utils`?
[06:20] <justlooks> hi, i want to read linux kernel code but after i install kernel use " apt-get install linux-source-3.2.0" ,i can not see any code file in /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-68-generic/fs/xfs  why?
[06:20] <quuxman> those are headers
[06:21] <quuxman> you want /usr/src/linux-source
[06:21] <quuxman> /usr/src/linux-source-3.5.0/... or whatever
[06:22] <quuxman> do you understand the C language?
[06:22] <quuxman> that would be a good starting point
[06:23] <quuxman> ok, this channel is completely dead
[06:23] <quuxman> well, almost
[06:23] <justlooks> quuxman: yes i understand a litter ,but question is i can not find the code location, i see /usr/src/linux-source-3.2.0/debian/ no code
[06:24] <jack> it's early morning quuxman
[06:24] <quuxman> justlooks: interesting, you're right, looks like there aren't any C files in that package
[06:24] <quuxman> you could always just git clone a repository
[06:24] <quuxman> or maybe you want `apt-get source`
[06:24] <jack> freaking early to be precise
[06:25] <quuxman> 11:30pm here
[06:25] <wafflej0ck> jack: yeah 1:25am here :)
[06:25] <wafflej0ck> actually I should get to sleep
[06:25] <justlooks> 14:24 here
[06:25] <jack> 7:25am here
[06:26] <jack> still pre-coffee
[06:26] <ki7mt> mkdir ~temp-kernel ; cd ~temp-kernel ; apt-get source linux-image-3.13.0-37-generic  or whatever version your after
[06:27] <quuxman> http://askubuntu.com/questions/159833/how-do-i-get-the-kernel-source-code
[06:27] <darkelfjuggalo> The password was taken off of a desktop with ubuntu 14.04...root password was not adjusted but the root password no longer works... how do i go into console or terminal to change the root password manually?
[06:27] <quuxman> darkelfjuggalo: can you get to the grub menu?
[06:28] <Bashing-om> darkelfjuggalo: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword .
[06:28] <darkelfjuggalo> how do i reach the grub menu?
[06:28] <quuxman> generally you can see this if you hit <esc> or <ctrl> or something while booting
[06:28] <quuxman> on some systems you see it every time you boot, to select between Ubuntu or Windows, for exampyle
[06:29] <darkelfjuggalo> i am trying to reset this in terminal or console so i can use sudo
[06:29] <quuxman> anyway, you select your normal boot line, hit 'e' and then add 'init=/bin/bash' to the end of the kernel line, then when it boots you're presented with a root shell prompt, and you can run `passwd`
[06:29] <coolstar> is there anywhere other than the ubuntu default repos where I can get hostapd?
[06:30] <coolstar> the current one from ubuntu's repo is broken and the outdated one works but lacks some features
[06:30] <coolstar> (outdated one as in the one before the current one)
[06:30] <ki7mt> darkelfjuggalo, boot into recovery mode: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password
[06:31] <quuxman> darkelfjuggalo: a simpler option is to plug a bootable disk in, boot off that, open a root prompt, mount the root from your system, run `chroot /mnt/myroot; passwd`
[06:32] <ki7mt> quuxman, that's what the how too explains
[06:32] <quuxman> I like manually changing init to /bin/bash with grub, because it doesn't require a boot disk ;-)
[06:32] <wafflej0ck> coolstar: typically you want to find the source development site and see if they provide a PPA or a deb file, the problem is the PPA is outside of the scope of being supported by canonical it's use at your own risk since you're downloading from a third party in the "worst case scenario" you would download the source and compile it but would need to read the instructions with the source or on the site that provides the source to
[06:32] <wafflej0ck> build and install the program
[06:33] <neXyon> hi, I have a weird problem, can't find anything on google :-/ I have a network card that is connected to the internet and the default route; I also have a wifi USB stick that is configured to access to an access point; now when I try to connect to this PC over the wifi network it always fails, but after I ping the other device from this PC it works; any clue what's wrong here?
[06:33] <wafflej0ck> coolstar: problem with doing it yourself is you'll never get updates and it isn't being tested by anyone but you
[06:33] <ki7mt> quuxman, fare enough, linux should == there's always more than one way to do something :-)
[06:34] <helpUbuntu> hi
[06:34] <quuxman> ok, I'm going to reboot to see if my sledgehammer fix to my completely borked hibernate state works
[06:34] <wafflej0ck> helpUbuntu: hello
[06:35] <helpUbuntu> i am getting the system is running in low graphics mode.
[06:35] <coolstar> wafflej0ck, only thing is the one in the default ubuntu repo is broken :/
[06:35] <coolstar> otherwise I'd gladly use the one in the repo
[06:35] <ki7mt> coolstar, if the repo version is not what you want / need, build it from source and use something like checkinstall  to manage it, bare in mind, you'll need to resolve the deps manually.
[06:35] <wafflej0ck> coolstar: yeah I understand sometimes it happens and sometimes I go outside the main repos but just need to let you know it's no mans land at that point
[06:36] <learning> I am planning to host my project on aws and want to encrypt home directory. I have setup password less ssh login via key. When I logout from the ssh session, will the home directory get encrypted? In that case, how the program will be able to read the text files from the filesystem?
[06:37] <ki7mt> coolstar, another option is to looks for PPA's of the latest versions, but you should consider something like y-ppa-manager to keep things sane.
[06:37] <helpUbuntu> i am new to ubuntu! i rebooted in recovery mode and did the failsafeX
[06:37] <helpUbuntu> and I am still getting the same screen.
[06:39] <sacarlson1> neXyon: I'm not sure as you have setup two path on the same network and it will prefer the faster I would think so wifi would be lower slower and maybe disconect it
[06:39] <ki7mt> helpUbuntu, It would helpful if you could describe the original problem ( as to why you needed failsafeX  to begin with), maybe you have already not sure.
[06:40] <sacarlson1> neXyon: it may or should also have 2 ip address on your network if they did work so you sure you are ping the correct ip?
[06:40] <ki7mt> .. s/would helpful/would be helpful/g ..
[06:41] <helpUbuntu> Hi ki7mt, i tried upgrading my 12.04 to 14.04. During the upgrade, my system displayed a window which said your system is running in low graphics mode and I couldnt get past that window.
[06:43] <ki7mt> helpUbuntu, I'm not a graphics expert, but this may provide some assistance: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[06:44] <helpUbuntu> I checked this link, but here after ctrl+alt+f1, i am not able to login. It says login incorrect everytime
[06:44] <helpUbuntu> I have tried resetting the password, and checked if there is a keyboard layout issue. Still no luck.
[06:45] <neXyon> sacarlson1: yeah it's the correct IP; how can I check if it shuts down? :-o
[06:45] <sacarlson1> helpUbuntu: wow maybe an encrypted /home ?
[06:46] <sacarlson1> neXyon: well you can see how it's presently setup to route  with route -n  as it will set priority at whatever hits the mask first
[06:47] <neXyon> sacarlson1: yeah the routing is setup fine
[06:47] <sacarlson1> neXyon: you should be able to manualy modify the order of the route if you prefer to have wifi on top
[06:47] <neXyon> 10.1.1.* is the wifi network and that's configured for the wifi, the normal ethernet network is in a different network
[06:47] <ki7mt> helpUbuntu, it would appear you have multiple issues unfortunately. If you PW is not working, you need resolve that before anything else can transpire.
[06:48] <helpUbuntu> hi sacarlson1, there is no .ecryptfs folder. I am assuming hence not encrypted.
[06:48] <sacarlson1> neXyon: oh they are on subnets?  so then behind nat so only one direction to start might be the case
[06:49] <sacarlson1> helpUbuntu: ok that's out.  you ever login from a term before?
[06:50] <helpUbuntu> sacarlson1, no I have never done that before. I am new to this stuff :)
[06:50] <sacarlson1> helpUbuntu: you should be able to boot as single user mode and see what the state of the none working acount is in
[06:50] <neXyon> schmidtm: no the devices I'm trying to connect are all in the same subnet <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[06:50] <neXyon> oops sorry schmidtm wanted to autocomplete sacarlson1
[06:51] <sacarlson1> helpUbuntu: see that the /home for that account is still present and see that /etc/password /etc/shadow still contain the account
[06:54] <sacarlson1> neXyon: if they are in the same subnet then the order they are listed in route would be on top I guess then
[06:54] <sacarlson1> neXyon: try change the order of route to prove or disprove that theory
[06:55] <helpUbuntu> sacarlson1, Checked, both the files have the entry for my username.
[06:56] <sacarlson1> neXyon: but it seems somewhat pointless to have two path to the same network but there must be some method to use it as redundent
[06:56] <quuxman> damn, that did not work
[06:57] <neXyon> sacarlson1: there is no redundant path
[06:57] <neXyon> the default eth0 device is connected to the internet, not to the private network that is a wifi
[06:58] <sacarlson1> neXyon: well then I count two subnetworks NOT one
[06:58] <shadej> hey all
[06:59] <shadej> I am trying to install adobe air but getting this error "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar"
[06:59] <shadej> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "unity-gtk-module"", I searched the web but cant get useful info.
[06:59] <sacarlson1> neXyon: what is the total number of nics now 3?
[07:00] <sacarlson1> neXyon: instead of making me guess why not paistbin  route -n and ifconfig
[07:01] <neXyon> sacarlson1: ok let's start from scratch, the PC has two nics: eth0 which connects to the internet and wlan0 which connects to an access point in the private <IP_ADDRESS>/24 network, I want to contact the PC with my phone in the same wifi network, but I have to ping it from the PC first before I can establish a connection from the phone
[07:01] <sacarlson1> neXyon: don't tell me show me
[07:01] <ki7mt> shadej, which version of Ubuntu ? Your probably missing a lib somewhere
[07:02] <sacarlson1> neXyon: I get confused as I speak to computers not people
[07:03] <sacarlson1> neXyon: also SHOW me iptables -L
[07:04] <sacarlson1> neXyon: I would also need the same data from the phone as how is it getting it's route info?  dhcp?
[07:05] <ki7mt> the easy way is to setup an ad-hoc hot spot. there's lots of how-too's to do that.
[07:06] <neXyon> sacarlson1: no iptables configured, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8699945/
[07:07] <darkelfjuggalo> i just changed to the root password through recovery mode... the root password is not responding to anything that requires the root password
[07:08] <neXyon> sacarlson1: phone is in via DHCP to the access point and can connect fine to a laptop in the same network, laptop also can't connect to the PC, so the problem is not on that side
[07:08] <sadfdsa> is there a good gui for mplayer, so i can pause and rewind and stuff?
[07:09] <helpUbuntu> sacarlson1, i checked the /var/log/auth.log, i am getting a a bunch of PAM adding faulty module lines and  pam_windbind errors PAM_USER_UNKOWN and NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_USERS if that helps. What can I do?
[07:09] <ki7mt> sadfdsa, Have you looked at mplayer-gui in the repo's ?
[07:10] <sacarlson1> neXyon: well I have to assume there is missing info here as the xx.xx part and the other missing part is I would guess that each of the device have a different gateway path
[07:11] <sacarlson1> neXyon: so from that guess the ubuntu can ping the phone but the phones path to it's gateway can't find you ubuntu
[07:12] <neXyon> sacarlson1: I can connect to the PC after the PC tried to connect to the phone
[07:12] <Sunstream> Okay
[07:12] <sacarlson1> helpUbuntu: pam?
[07:12] <neXyon> sacarlson1: I guess it's either an arp problem, routing or the device really shuts down, because after some time without packages sent I cannot connect anymore and have to do the same again
[07:13] <Sunstream> Is there a "scandisk" or some option to test the HDD and make sure it really has a bad sector?
[07:13] <Sunstream> for lUBUNTI
[07:13] <Sunstream> um
[07:13] <sacarlson1> helpUbuntu: I"m not sure why pam would be involved here.  is there something different you setup on this account?
[07:13] <Sunstream> netsh?!
[07:13] <Sunstream> Netsh, why are you pinging me?
[07:13] <ki7mt> Sunstream,  sudo /sbin/fsck -t ext4  /dev/sdbx
[07:13] <Netsh> Sunstream, sory, please forgive
[07:14] <sacarlson1> helpUbuntu: oh that must be from the samba network
[07:14] <Sunstream> No I was wondering
[07:14] <Sunstream> I do not have a problem with it i was wondering
[07:14] <Netsh> Sunstream, I'm trying to script python to ping someone that says !ping
[07:14] <Sunstream> ahh
[07:14] <Netsh> I suddenly realized I was pinging everyone that said anything :(
[07:14] <sacarlson1> neXyon: oh ya that could be a power saver mode in the phone.  I've had that happen when I ssh into my phone at times
[07:14] <helpUbuntu> sacarlson1, no i did not anything. :(
[07:15] <Netsh> I've stopped that bug
[07:15] <Sunstream> well I suggest if you want to do something like that, go into the room dedicated to python scripting
[07:15] <Sunstream> nods
[07:15] <neXyon> sacarlson1: no not the phone, the wifi on the PC
[07:15] <Netsh> yeah, good call
[07:15] <Sunstream> Okay ki7mt not that I do not mind doing stuff CLI is there a GUI one?
[07:16] <ki7mt> Sunstream, sudo apt-get install gparted
[07:16] <Sunstream> thats right
[07:16] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Select the device and select, "Check"
[07:16] <Sunstream> thanks I forgot the name of the silly program
[07:16] <Sunstream> thank you
[07:16] <ki7mt> Sunstream, welcome
[07:17] <Sunstream> btw
[07:17] <Sunstream> how do I get the CLI to quit trying to resolve host for my system with sudo commands?
[07:18]  * Viking667 departs for now
[07:18] <sacarlson1> neXyon: ya I guess the attempt to connect to the phone will update it's arp records and have maybe aid it's path.  also maybe in the network switch it sets up with arp
[07:19] <sacarlson1> neXyon: the solution being setup keep alive ping
[07:19] <ki7mt> Sunstream, not sure I understand, what commands are you using, and then what's the output ?
[07:20] <sacarlson1> neXyon: small script that set a single ping every X secounds
[07:21] <ki7mt> try pingtest with a cron: http://pingtest.sourceforge.net/
[07:21] <neXyon> sacarlson1: that's not really how I want to solve it :-/
[07:22] <sacarlson1> neXyon: well without a quick solution one uses what works at the time
[07:22] <sacarlson1> neXyon: other wise you can keep dwelling on it
[07:23] <neXyon> sacarlson1: well, the clients might get different IPs from the DHCP router, so I'd have to ping the whole subnet
[07:23] <Sunstream> I will PM it to you
[07:24] <ki7mt> Sunstream, just pastebin it .. so others can see as well.
[07:24] <sacarlson1> neXyon: other clients?  well any ping creates an arp that is seen by all
[07:24] <karab44> hello
[07:24] <neXyon> sacarlson1: lol I just found the problem
[07:24] <xeirrr> Anyone use minimal install image here?
[07:24] <sacarlson1> neXyon: cool what is it?
[07:24] <Sunstream> its just 3 lines
[07:24] <neXyon> sacarlson1: there's another PC with the same IP :-o
[07:25] <sacarlson1> neXyon: wow I would have never guessed that one
[07:25] <neXyon> sacarlson1: yeah, too bad I don't have that wifi for myself
[07:25] <Sunstream> Hold I gotta make it
[07:25] <potatoes_> I realize this may not be enough info to tell but can anyone explain why: grep $i node12.last | cut -d ' ' -f2 | sort -u | see -i "/$i/d" node12.txt apparently deletes everything from the file
[07:25] <karab44> guys I had app installed via application market and I downloaded latest version directly from the web. It was beautiful until I haven't uninstalled old one. Nautilus stopped launching my app when clicking on the file. Now I have to launch the app and open files from the program. How to bring back direct file opening?
[07:26] <neXyon> sacarlson1: and the only info I got from the admin is that 10 to 200 is DHCP and I can use the rest for static -.-
[07:26] <geovane> algum brasileiro ?
[07:26] <ki7mt> xeirrr, whats' the question. allot of folks do QA install testing here ..
[07:26] <sacarlson1> neXyon: you have more than one dhcp running on one network?  hows that even posible?
[07:26] <neXyon> sacarlson1: it's only one DHCP, why do you think it's 2?
[07:27] <geovane> speak portuguese?
[07:27] <hateball> !pt
[07:27] <sacarlson1> neXyon: you can put 10 dhcp servers on it.  I"ve had 2 runing by accident
[07:27] <ki7mt> karab44, You more than likely need an appropriate .desktop file, which are provided by the package maintainers, you could add one to ~/.local/share/applications directory if the souce project doesn't provide one.
[07:27] <xeirrr> kit7mt: fluxbox doesn't looks clear...
[07:28] <neXyon> sacarlson1: I meant the DHCP server handles <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> so the rest is free for statics like I need for that PC that should work as a local server
[07:28] <sacarlson1> neXyon: well ping the fringes and see what's out there
[07:29] <karab44> ki7mt: it's a bit different issue. I am not able to launch files with particular extensions with that program, not program itself. In example if you have xcf extensions you would like the GIMP opens it.
[07:29] <ki7mt> karab44, Oh, file associations, that's a bit different.
[07:30] <karab44> yes, file associations
[07:30] <sacarlson1> neXyon: I've done it at my company back in the old days with all static ip I didnt' wait for an admin to hook me in I would just ping find an opening and hook in.  but later the guy would come to work and have problems with me on the same ip is him
[07:30] <neXyon> sacarlson1: just ran nmap :D
[07:30] <ki7mt> karab44, The "easiest way" that I use, is to use Ubuntu Tweak for that.
[07:30] <sacarlson1> neXyon: ya I think nmap will ping ranges
[07:31] <ki7mt> karab44, This may help, quick search: http://askubuntu.com/questions/289337/how-can-i-change-file-association-globally
[07:31] <ki7mt> xeirrr, this may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[07:31] <karab44> ki7mt: thank you much! I'll read some and try some :)
[07:32] <neXyon> sacarlson1: now it works, thanks for the help!
[07:32] <ki7mt> Re: ping range example: nmap -sP -R <IP_ADDRESS>-254
[07:32] <sacarlson1> neXyon: I'm not sure I was any help at all
[07:33] <neXyon> sacarlson1: but you showed a lot of effort :)
[07:33] <ki7mt> +1
[07:33] <sacarlson1> neXyon: ha ha ya right
[07:33] <neXyon> sacarlson1: so thanks for your time and I hope we both learned something ;)
[07:34] <sacarlson1> neXyon: yup next time I will ask what evirnment first as most are at home I assume that first
[07:36] <ki7mt> I forgot how to do it, but there's a way to give somebody a cookie here .. sacarlson1 deserves one :-)
[07:36] <neXyon> sacarlson1: yeah, assumptions are the general problem here; I just thought, a number between 200 and 255, let's just take 222, that's easy to type, assuming that nobody had the same idea before xD
[07:37] <sacarlson1> ki7mt: for steering people in the wrong direction ha ha
[07:37] <sacarlson1> neXyon: ya I start at 111
[07:38] <Sunstream> okay made it http://paste.ubuntu.com/8700276/ warning it is less than 30 lines long :)
[07:39] <Sunstream> the other question is why is it saying on lintes 7 and 8 to remove something EVERYTIME I use sudo apt-get?
[07:39] <Sunstream> lines*
[07:39] <oskie> anyone know why debsums complain about /sbin/start-stop-daemon this morning?
[07:40] <ki7mt> !cookie > sacarlson1
[07:41] <ki7mt> whoops .. That didn't work, sorry fer the PM sacarlson1
[07:41] <sacarlson1> ki7mt: dam that's not my real name it's sacarlson with no 1
[07:41] <sacarlson1> ki7mt: that's ok
[07:41] <sacarlson1> let me login to my correct name
[07:41] <ki7mt> that's what showing up in the channel, maybe you got another nic logged in or something.
[07:41] <neXyon> k, time to go home, cya!
[07:42] <sacarlson1> yes every 24 hours I get a new ip so it knock  me off my correct name
[07:43] <sacarlson> ki7mt: this is the real me
[07:43] <ki7mt> lol .. ok
[07:43] <ki7mt> I still haven't figure out this cookie business :-)
[07:44] <Sunstream> ki7mt, I did the paste
[07:44] <Sunstream> ki7mt,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8700276/
[07:45] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Looks ok to me, was there a problem ?
[07:46] <Sunstream> well yeah I wanted to know why it keeps trying to do a resolve of  my "host" name  and why it keeps asking me to remove something everytime I do the apt command
[07:47] <karab44> ki7mt: ubuntu tweak works like a charm. Many many thanks! :)
[07:47] <ki7mt> Sunstream, re: remove, that's normal package management, things that are no longer needed are suggested to remove, but they hurt anything if they remain.
[07:47] <ki7mt> karab44, Welcome. Just becareful not to change critical system extensions.
[07:48] <ki7mt> Sunstream,  .. but they "don't" hurt anything .. ..
[07:49] <ki7mt> Sunstream, ReL hosts, you may have the callsing in your hostsname or hots file, and it's not a FQDN so it wont find it.
[07:50] <ki7mt> .. hosts file ...
[07:51] <ki7mt> Sunstream, you can check it with: cat /etc/hosts ; cat /etc/hostname
[07:51] <ki7mt> Sunstream, more than likely, AD7BK should resolve to <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:52] <Lope> is it possible to install ubuntu into a subdirectory and then have multiple ubuntu installs, in different subdirectories, on the same ext4 filesystem?
[07:53] <edition> is it sensible to install xfce alongside unity?
[07:53] <dvdchr> Hi. how do I make a .out file (C++ program) globally accessible? I have tried ln command but it's not working..
[07:53] <edition> dvdchr, try the path variable
[07:53] <ki7mt> Sunstream, your /etc/hosts file should have something like:  <IP_ADDRESS>    localhost.localdomain localhost <IP_ADDRESS>   < my-machine>
[07:53] <cloudbud> i am trying to give apache the ownership of a document root using command chown -R root:apache /mnt/html but i am getting error chown: invalid group: `root:apache'
[07:53] <cloudbud> pls helpo
[07:54] <dvdchr> edition, you mean editing the .bashrc file, yes?
[07:54] <ki7mt> Lope, Ues, in a debootstrap or VM
[07:54] <ki7mt> dvdchr, Yes .. sri type
[07:54] <edition> dvdchr, "echo $PATH" and tell me what you get.
[07:54] <sacarlson> cloudbud: I think apache group user name is www-data
[07:54] <ki7mt> +1
[07:55] <cloudbud> okay how can i verify that
[07:55] <bobin> Hi guys. I'm looking for a way to boot grub into terminal whiteout installing Ubuntu. Any suggestions?
[07:55] <edition> dvdchr, to make your program 'globally accessible', you may need to add the program directory to the $PATH variable.
[07:56] <ki7mt> cloudbud, ls -al /var/www
[07:56] <cloudbud> ki7mt : its showing only root
[07:56] <edition> dvdchr, did that answer your question?
[07:57] <ki7mt> cloudbud, it should show root:www-data
[07:57] <Lope> if I move a linux install into a subdirectory, and reinstall grub, will it still boot?
[07:57] <ki7mt> cloudbud, how did you inatall Apache ?
[07:57] <cloudbud> using apt-get
[07:58] <gaobb> 我可以在ubuntu14.04上安装windows8.1吗？
[07:58] <dvdchr> edition, sorry, here's the echo: https://gist.github.com/davidchristiandy/c7f606fd69acf817ddd6
[07:58] <Sunstream> the resolving the host is therOkay how do I fix that
[08:00] <edition> dvdchr, read this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14637979/how-to-permanently-set-path-on-linux
[08:00] <ki7mt> cloudbud,  for info: http://ubuntuserverguide.com/2014/06/how-to-install-lamp-in-ubuntu-server-14-04-lts.html
[08:00] <dvdchr> edition, thanks!
[08:00] <edition> all good?
[08:01] <dvdchr> edition, I tried the sudo ln -s
[08:01] <dvdchr> but it's not working
[08:01] <dvdchr> I symlinked it to /usr/bin/program
[08:02] <edition> dvdchr: which OS are you targeting?
[08:02] <ki7mt> Sunstream, pastebin your /etc/hosts and /stc/hostname files
[08:02] <dvdchr> edition, ubuntu 12.04
[08:02] <ki7mt> .. Sunstream whoops and /etc/hostname
[08:03] <sacarlson> Lope: not unless you point grub to the path of kernel were you moved it too
[08:03] <edition> dvdchr: For applications, you should consider a package for debian based releases (ie: Ubuntu 12.04)
[08:04] <sacarlson> Lope: but it can be done
[08:04] <Lope> sacarlson: okay, then the system would boot up chroot'ed?
[08:04] <sacarlson> Lope: yes I guess it would if you set it up correctly
[08:04] <Lope> sacarlson: I think to make my life simpler, I'll split the disk into multiple partitions
[08:05] <ki7mt> dvdchr, In general, if a file is not located in /etc/login.def $PATH, the file is not executable or readable globally, however, it can still be "found" with locate, find and other search tools.
[08:06] <edition> thanks, ki7mt
[08:07] <sacarlson> Lope: I end up breaking my root up as needed like for video,  virtualbox images, downloads.... that end up filling up root and put them on availabe disks or add them later
[08:07] <sefai> hello all i need The Registration Code linux mint pls
[08:07] <dvdchr> ki7mt, noted. thanks!
[08:07] <sefai> i m sefai
[08:07] <ki7mt> dvdchr, it also depends on what the .out file is, a library, binary (executable) or what, as to where in the FHS the file should reside. If all you need is to ahve it available to a user, add it to ~/bin, and edit the ~/bin conditional in your ~/.bashrc file, then source it.
[08:08] <sacarlson> Lope: I just use symbolic links to move stuf
[08:08] <dvdchr> the .out file is an executable; using absolute path e.g. "./a.out args1 args2" it is working normally
[08:08] <ki7mt> dvdchr, The I would use /usr/local/bin rather than /usr/bin
[08:08] <ki7mt> .. then ..
[08:09] <ki7mt> dvdchr, Adding a binary to /usr/local/bin allows for local installation, without messing with the packaging directories, and is sourced in $PATH by default.
[08:11] <sefai> i m sefai i need The Registration Code linux mint pls
[08:12] <sacarlson> sefai: registration code?
[08:12] <sefai> yes
[08:12] <Shadow}}> Sorry to ask but whats the off topic channel?
[08:12] <sefai> quoi ??
[08:12] <dvdchr> ki7mt, I see. but I still need to add the directory to $PATH, right?
[08:13] <sacarlson> sefai: you mean the IRC that serves mint?
[08:13] <hateball> !mint
[08:13] <Lope> sacarlson: ok
[08:13] <sefai> ok thx
[08:13] <Guest42608> bonjourd
[08:13] <dvdchr> ki7mt, from the project directory, I've tried sudo ln -s myprogram.out /usr/local/bin/myprogram
[08:14] <dvdchr> and when I test it out it says command not found
[08:14] <Shadow}}> Whats the line for distupgrade?
[08:14] <Guest42608> ping
[08:14] <Guest42608> comment on fais une attaque ddos
[08:14] <Guest42608> avec comande
[08:15] <Guest42608> comande
[08:15] <Shadow}}> "apt-get update -y && apt-get upgrade -y && ___ && autoremove -y" I can't get the dist upgrade line right.
[08:15] <ki7mt> dvdchr, You dont need to ln -s, unless you want an alias ... use gnu core utils instll ; sudo install -m755 <binary-name> /usr/local/bin/<binary-name>
[08:16] <Shunya> hi
[08:16] <ki7mt> Hi
[08:16] <Shadow}}> Anyone?...
[08:17] <Shunya> :D
[08:17] <ki7mt> dvdchr, then test you bianry with: <binary-name> --help or whatever your arg1 arg2 is
[08:17] <Shadow}}> I thought it was apt-get distupgrade or dist-upgrade?..
[08:17] <Shunya> anyone pls recommend me good typing tutor for ubuntu
[08:17] <linuxmint> Shunya: best is Mavis Beacon.
[08:17] <Shunya> linuxmint thanks... i'll try it now
[08:17] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Klavaro is another
[08:18] <ki7mt> whoops .. Shunya .. Klavaro .. sri Sunstream  .. hit the tab too fast :-)
[08:19] <Shunya> ki7mt, thanks...
[08:19] <dvdchr> ki7mt, what about file dependancies? The binary depends on some folders and text files adjacent to it
[08:20] <linuxmint> Shunya: you're welcome :-)
[08:20] <dvdchr> *dependencies
[08:21] <ki7mt> dvdchr, system dependencies should be picked up automatically, if you binary is looking for libs and things you've built, you need to install them where they need to be, for example: /usr/local/lib  or /usr/local/share/man1 etc
[08:22] <ki7mt> dvdchr, If the folders are shared, and not system / ARCH dependent, /usr/local/share/<foldername> etc
[08:23] <dvdchr> ki7mt, okay, thanks!
[08:23] <ki7mt> dvdchr, I would also recommend you use pkg-config to install you program, as that solves allot of these issues.
[08:23] <diggy> hoppefull not long till new mint edition
[08:25] <ki7mt> diggy, You dont need it, just install mate on Ubuntu, and you'l have allot less bugs.
[08:27] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Did you get your hostname issue resolved .. I got side-tracked fer a bit
[08:27] <dvdchr> ki7mt, one last thing; how do I uninstall the program if I installed it via gnu install?
[08:29] <ki7mt> dvdchr, Losts of ways, through the use of a manifest file, or manually. Your make install target should have both an install and uninstall target, listing the things you install, and thus, would uninstall using "make uninstall"
[08:30] <ki7mt> dvdchr, Alternatives for this is an application called checkinstall .. does allot of this work for you when managing souce build installations.
[08:30] <ki7mt> dvdchr, info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[08:31] <dvdchr> ki7mt, how about programs installed via your command earlier: sudo install -m755 <binary-name> /usr/local/bin/<binary-name>
[08:32] <ki7mt> dvdchr, However, like I said earlier, a properly constructed Makefile should account for both installation and removal.
[08:33] <Sunstream> no I had to do a emergency reboot so I lost that info
[08:33] <ki7mt> dvdchr, sudo install is a imple wrapper script, it simply allows for ag1, arg2, arg3 etc, see man install .. uninstall is simply removing the bianry with an sudo rm -f /usr/local/bin/<binary-name>
[08:34] <ki7mt> Sunstream, pastebin your /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files so we can have a look at them.
[08:35] <Sunstream> So I need the command to fix that
[08:35] <dvdchr> ki7mt, thanks!
[08:35] <ki7mt> Sunstream, more than likely, you need to set the host name up properly, like <IP_ADDRESS> or something simple, but it's not causing any major grief, other than saying it cant find it.
[08:36] <bmatusiak> anybody know why html5 apps built on ububtu-sdk dont work on touch device?
[08:36] <Sunstream> Actually I need  the commands to do it ki7mt  reasons being is i had to REISUB
[08:36] <ki7mt> Sunstream, commands to do what ?
[08:37] <Sunstream> to get to the file and do the edit
[08:37] <ki7mt> Sunstream, first, cat /etc/hosts | pastebinit
[08:37] <ki7mt> then we can look at what needs doing.
[08:38] <klander> hey guys. I'm trying to upgrade to 14.10 with do-release-upgrade but it comes back with No new release version found.
[08:39] <klander> (ubuntu server)
[08:39] <Sunstream> well why should I do that since it has never been edited
[08:40] <Sunstream> I assume that the default file is the same
[08:40] <Sunstream> I will do it b
[08:40] <Sunstream> hold
[08:40] <venkat_330> Getting partition boundary error when using GPARTED: http://pastebin.com/gxKHaGZj
[08:41] <DJones> klander: If your on 14.04, I would guess that update manager is currently set to only show LTS upgrades
[08:41] <DJones> klander: Just trying to remember where the flag is that needs changing
[08:41] <ki7mt> klander, Check:  cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades |grep Prompt  .. it should say normal v.s lts, if not edit to say normal,
[08:41] <klander> DJones: ah i see. how might i get around that?
[08:41] <klander> cool
[08:42] <klander> Prompt=lts
[08:43] <sacarlson> klander:  I would think before you jump.  lts is better long term
[08:43] <ki7mt> klander, sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  && chenge Prompt=normal && sudp apt-get update  .. then sudo do-release-upgrade
[08:43] <sacarlson> klander: you can backport most if not all that run on 14.10
[08:44] <ki7mt> klander, Assuming you on 14.04 and want 14.10 that is.
[08:44] <DJones> klander: Must admit, I'd agree with sacarlson about sticking with LTS for a server release, you get 5 years support, won't need to keep continually upgrading every 9 months
[08:44] <ki7mt> +1 for servers LTS is best
[08:44] <Sunstream> ki7mt, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8700941/
[08:44] <Sunstream> +1?
[08:44] <klander> thats alright, its not production
[08:45] <klander> thanks a bunch :)
[08:45] <Sunstream> is Utopian Unicorn LTS?
[08:45] <DJones> Sunstream: No, 16.06 is next LTS
[08:45] <DJones> Sunstream: LTS is releases every 2 years
[08:45] <Sunstream> nods
[08:45] <edition> is there a good book on Qt?
[08:46] <Sunstream> then after 9 months
[08:46] <ki7mt> Sunstream, No. it's only supported until July 2015 or there abouts.
[08:46] <Sunstream> I lose support for UU?
[08:46] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Yes, after July next year you will.
[08:46] <DJones> Sunstream: Yep, thats it, LTS is supported for 56 years from release, but non LTS will only be supported and get updates for 9 months
[08:47] <DJones> 5 years even
[08:47] <DJones> 56 year support would be great
[08:47] <Sunstream> 56 years wow
[08:47] <ki7mt> :-) 56yrs, Mark would not be happy with that
[08:47] <ki7mt> Sunstream, You hosts file looks ok to me.
[08:47] <sacarlson> Sunstream: and also note all the people in here that after upgrade things that were working perfect now no longer work.  best not to fix it if not broken
[08:48] <Sunstream> then
[08:48] <Sunstream> if it is ok
[08:48] <Sunstream> why is it still giving me unable to resovle
[08:48] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Actually, the second line, AD7BK-laptop .. may need to be just laptop, as that's the host name.
[08:49] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Actually, my bad, suntop looks to be the hostname ..
[08:50] <srccon> what ever happened to the ubuntu-android, meaning the one that ran desktop ubuntu when connected to a monitor
[08:50] <ki7mt> Sunstream, suntop@AD7BK == <hostname>:$USER .. so that may be the issue.
[08:51] <ki7mt> Sunstream, So in /etc/hosts  .. try changing : <IP_ADDRESS> AD7BK-Laptop  to <IP_ADDRESS> suntop
[08:51] <Sunstream> sudo leafpad hosts (while in the folder?)
[08:52] <srccon> wouldn't it be sudo leafpad /etc/hosts
[08:52] <ki7mt> Sunstream, if you on Xubuntu, I suppose it's Leafpad .. so .. sudo leafpad /etc/hosts
[08:53] <srccon> is leafpad good? I have geany, but it feels a little to heavy for notes, what is the best small GUI notepad?
[08:53] <srccon> vim in the terminal, of course... ;)
[08:53] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Or you could just: sudo hostname suntop
[08:54] <diggy> systemd is filling up all my availble ram
[08:54] <7GHAAGGJI> who
[08:54] <7GHAAGGJI> whois
[08:54] <ki7mt> Sunstream, then: sudo /etc/init.d/hostname.sh start
[08:54] <diggy> world health organization
[08:54] <7GHAAGGJI> nick FeierabendBier
[08:55] <7GHAAGGJI> who
[08:55] <Sunstream> actually ki7mt that still said couldnt reslove
[08:55] <Sunstream> but when I changed it to AD7BK it stopped  it
[08:55] <Lope> is it worth installing fail2ban for my SSH server?
[08:55] <Sunstream> it is user@HOST
[08:56] <Sunstream> and why is it <IP_ADDRESS> I thought it was always <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:56] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Yes, that was a typo on my part, sri, should be <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:57] <Sunstream> well <IP_ADDRESS> is in the file
[08:57] <Sunstream> not your fault
[08:57] <ki7mt> Sunstream, user@HOST doesn't seem correct, but if it's working .. ok.
[08:57] <7GHAAGGJI> de change [+i] for user root____4
[08:57] <Sunstream> it is there look at the pastebin
[08:57] <7GHAAGGJI> de change [+i] for user root____4
[08:57] <7GHAAGGJI> de change [+i] for user root____4
[08:57] <evilwombat> Okay, silly question. Is there anything in 14.04 x86_64 ubuntu that would natively allow it to execute ARM binaries?
[08:58] <evilwombat> ... because I accidentally launched an ARM binary and it appears to be executing on my x86_64 box... as well as on my phone. I would please like to know (a) how the f*@$ this is possible, or (b) who was it that slipped me LSD.
[08:59] <Sunstream> evilwombat, take a deep breath and calm down cartoon swaring will not help the case
[09:00] <Morpheusxnl> just a general question, i have ubuntu 14.04 installed. Would it be wise to install cinnamon?
[09:01] <ki7mt> Sunstream, You should also do a reboot, just to make sure things set properly.
[09:01] <evilwombat> Sunstream, it's not real swearing... I'm just baffled by seeing something that I did not think was possible, unless somehow 14.04 is now emulating an ARM system through binfmt_misc or some such
[09:01] <bobin89> Hi guys. Do someone know how to boot grub installer to terminal?
[09:02] <Sunstream> ki7mt, is all local hosts 127.x.x.x or is it 127.0.x.x?
[09:02] <evilwombat> Sunstream, ah, that's exactly what it is. strace tells the story - readlink("/proc/self/exe", "/usr/bin/qemu-arm-static", 4096) = 24
[09:02] <DJones> !text | bobin89 I think this is still valid,
[09:03] <Sunstream> Well evilwombat  I seen linux do the weirdest things ya know. I hear with the right stuff it can run on a toaster :) it may be doing that
[09:03] <Sunstream> okay ki7mt rebooting
[09:04] <ki7mt> Sunstream, The first line in hosts should be <IP_ADDRESS> localhost and the second, <IP_ADDRESS> <hostname>
[09:04] <qwebirc138142> hey
[09:05] <oki> Hello to everyone, i have a question how can i add application Scribus on toolbar, but when i look in search files and i didn't find it, already was installed through terminal, in ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[09:07] <ki7mt> oki, How are you seaching for files ?
[09:07] <bobin89> DJones, ubottu: I dont get that far, I´m in the first screen I can choose Try ubuntu, install ubuntu, so on And I can edit the line e and c
[09:08] <ChaosBringer> is anyone else having issues with apt-get update after upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10? I keep having to re-add GPG keys
[09:08] <ChaosBringer> and it never stops :/
[09:08] <DJones> bobin89: Ah, I'm not sure whether that will work on a live cd
[09:08] <ChaosBringer> Even for all my canonical repositories
[09:09] <ChaosBringer> W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com utopic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5 NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[09:09] <oki> ki7mt: from icon in toolbar for search files,etcc
[09:10] <bobin89> DJones: I dont know either but I need to try
[09:10] <ki7mt> ChaosBringer, Try clearing /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d ; sudo apt-get update  ; sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys KEY
[09:10] <DJones> bobin89: Hopefully somebody else here can help you with that
[09:11] <lancelot_of> hallo
[09:11] <ChaosBringer> ki7mt, Yeah, figured based on the error. Already cleared the gpg trusted dir. Thanks!
[09:12] <ki7mt> Cool
[09:12] <lancelot_of> how to change lightdm default background? i did it via dconf-editor, canonical, unity greeter, but after loading the desired background, this is overlayed by the default one of ubuntu 14.04 LTS. I can't find the corresponding key in dconf. Can you please help me?
[09:13] <ki7mt> oki, You mean Unity  .. you should be able to open Unity, and type in Scribus
[09:14] <out_of_color> can i install ubuntu on my tablet?
[09:14] <ki7mt> oki, Additionaly,is using Unity, check your filters, and that Appplicaitons is set
[09:14] <oki> ki7mt:  yes i alreday do that but again not show me
[09:15] <ki7mt> oki, Is this 14.04 or 14.10
[09:15] <Sunstream> ki7mt, success
[09:15] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Cool.
[09:16] <Sunstream> No more sillyness with the "cant resolve"
[09:16] <ki7mt> Sunstream, That seems like a bug though, as the hostname file sets the host in /etc/hosts
[09:17] <ki7mt> Sunstream, so when you just tye hostname on the command like, whatever is rendered there, should populate the /etc/hosts file, in theory
[09:18] <Sunstream> yep
[09:18] <oki> in terminal show me this in terminal: Distributor ID:Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[09:18] <oki> Release:14.04 Codename:trusty, but i upgraded on 14.10.
[09:19] <Sunstream> ki7mt,  how do I do the id like he did
[09:20] <ki7mt> Sunstream, lsb_release -a
[09:20] <out_of_color> is there a way to reinstall android firmware using ubuntu?
[09:21] <ki7mt> oki, Well, seems like a bug ot me, as it should render in scopes, so, you can launch the app rfom the terminal, then right click the icon and lock it to the Unity bar, or, forece re-install of the scopes.
[09:21] <Sunstream> cool
[09:21] <Sunstream> thanks
[09:22] <Sunstream> now I still want to know one thing
[09:22] <Sunstream> What is a Utopian Unicorn?
[09:23] <Sunstream> Wow Lynx has a newer version 2.8.9dev1-2
[09:24] <ki7mt> Sunstream, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/ubuntu-14-10-name-utopic-unicorn
[09:25] <ki7mt> Sunstream, A.K.A ~ The Unicorn is an animal from mythology generally depicted as Equidae with a lone, long spiralled horn on their heads.
[09:27] <Sunstream> Okay now I got gparted which does not have what I want it seems (I need to do a scandisk to make sure all sectors are good
[09:28] <ki7mt> Sunstream, That's back to the original thing then, fsck
[09:29] <Sunstream> okay
[09:29] <Sunstream> wow you can install android apps on Ubuntu?!
[09:29] <stevenblablabla> Can I compile ubuntu for armv6 raspberry pis?
[09:29] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Also look ar man badblocks
[09:30] <ki7mt> look at: man badblocks
[09:30] <waressearcher2> I used to use "cryptoloop" module to create and use encrypted partitions but I found that TrueCrypt, how are they differ ? is "cryptoloop" obsolete in anyway ?
[09:33] <stevenblablabla> anybody?
[09:33] <ki7mt> waressearcher2, There are several alternatives, GnuPG, dm-crypt + LUKS, EncFS, several others.
[09:35] <ki7mt> stevenblablabla, Yes, several ways, here's a quick how to: http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/linux/kernel/building.md
[09:36] <ki7mt> stevenblablabla, Obviously, if your building on a Ubuntu box, you'll be cross-compiling.
[09:36] <stevenblablabla> I'
[09:36] <Sunstream> eeeeeek
[09:36] <Sunstream> that is too hard to use
[09:36] <stevenblablabla> m building for arm on a mac pro1,1
[09:37] <stevenblablabla> 2 x 2.66 GHz Duel-Core Intel Xeon
[09:37] <Sunstream> there has to be a simpler prgram
[09:37] <ki7mt> stevenblablabla, Then I would ask the Raspbian folks how best to proceed.
[09:38] <Sunstream> I will have to make a choice
[09:38] <Sunstream> live with the 1 bad block
[09:38] <waressearcher2> I used to use "cryptoloop" module to create and use encrypted partitions but I found that TrueCrypt, how are they differ ? is "cryptoloop" obsolete in anyway ?
[09:38] <Sunstream> or see if it can be fixed with a simple program
[09:38] <stevenblablabla> I really wish every license was as flexible as the bsd licences
[09:39] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Most disks, even the highest quality disk, have some bad sectors / blocks. Fortunately, *Nix does a good job of avoiding them.
[09:39] <stevenblablabla> ki7mt: using TRIM? or is that Android only?
[09:39] <Sunstream> well I just want to verify that it is really bad thats allll
[09:39] <Sunstream> gparted did not have any scan option
[09:39] <Sunstream> badblocks requires a very specific command structure
[09:40] <Sunstream> meaning I need to knw how to do the command correctly
[09:40] <ki7mt> stevenblablabla, Pass, I dont build Raspbian
[09:40] <Killjoy> hello
[09:40] <Guest50246> hey
[09:40] <Sunstream> it is not like I can go scandsk D: /f
[09:40] <Guest50246> can u see me texting?
[09:41] <Sunstream> Guest50246, no we cant
[09:41] <Guest50246> lol
[09:41] <stevenblablabla> TRIM gives ssds that extra bit of life
[09:41] <Guest50246> are we the only ones here
[09:41] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Maybe this can give you a few more options: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/37659/the-beginners-guide-to-linux-disk-utilities/
[09:41] <Guest50246> ???
[09:41] <Sunstream> theres your answer :D
[09:41] <Guest50246> how do I change my nickname?
[09:41] <Sunstream> yeah that likely will
[09:42] <Guest50246> (0-0)
[09:42] <Sunstream> what you do to change thy nick is use /nick ineedtochange
[09:42] <Sunstream> being ineedtochange is to be replaced with what you want to be :D
[09:42] <funnymouth> so hey
[09:42] <Sunstream> :) see there
[09:42] <funnymouth> thnx
[09:42] <Sunstream> nods
[09:43] <funnymouth> (0-0)
[09:43] <ki7mt> Sunstream, This seems like it should do the trick pretty easy: sudo fsck -l bad-blocks /dev/sdx
[09:43] <rivarun> hi guys. what's the way to obtain GNU realpath which has options like --relative-base?
[09:43] <Sunstream> reading
[09:43] <funnymouth> d
[09:43] <rivarun> https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/realpath-invocation.html
[09:43] <funnymouth> llo
[09:43] <funnymouth> lol
[09:43] <Sunstream> fsck is that short for file system check?
[09:43] <Killj0y> so u guys hackers
[09:44] <ki7mt> _PATH=$(basename $0) ; echo $_PATH
[09:44] <ki7mt> Killj0y, No
[09:44] <MindSpark> hi guys, is there a way to inherit group permissions. Something like setgid but for permissions rather than group?
[09:44] <waressearcher2> I lost connection anyone answered my question ?
[09:44] <waressearcher2> I used to use "cryptoloop" module to create and use encrypted partitions but I found that TrueCrypt, how are they differ ? is "cryptoloop" obsolete in anyway ?
[09:45] <Killj0y>  sunstream is your ip  <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:45] <Sunstream> heh if you do fsck without arguements and you say yes to the warning to continue you might as well kiss your system bye bye
[09:45] <Killj0y>  sunstream is your ip  <IP_ADDRESS>???
[09:45] <stevenblablabla> Sunstream: Don't run fsck with the disk mounted either
[09:46] <MindSpark> Sunstream: fix errors makes you kiss your system goodbye?
[09:46] <DJones> Killj0y: This channel is for Ubuntu operating system support, if you have a support issue, please feel free to ask the question, be aware that the channel isn't for general chat
[09:46] <Sunstream> no if you do not heed the warning and use it on the system drive while mounted
[09:46] <Killj0y> do u guys know how i can remotely control with my ubuntu computer my VAIO windows 7 laptop?
[09:46] <Sunstream> Killj0y, i do not know why?
[09:47] <ki7mt> Killj0y, RDP
[09:47] <Killj0y> so i can play a prank on my sister for being annoying as hell
[09:47] <stevenblablabla> Remote X through ssh would work
[09:47] <stevenblablabla> I've launched programs on a Mac that are inside a vm
[09:47] <Killj0y> WHATS RDP??????
[09:47] <Sunstream> Remote Desktop Protocol
[09:47] <ki7mt> Killj0y, http://www.7tutorials.com/connecting-windows-remote-desktop-ubuntu
[09:48] <Killj0y> how do i use RDP?????
[09:48] <Sunstream> I guess U an
[09:48] <Sunstream> Killj0y,  I am i guess why?
[09:48] <ki7mt> Killj0y, see above How-Too ^^^
[09:48] <Killj0y> thnx bruv
[09:48] <Killj0y> brb
[09:49] <MindSpark> Sunstream: it doesn’t mean you kiss your system bye bye, it means that you might be changing files that are currently in use.
[09:49] <MindSpark> which could but doesn’t have to result in loss
[09:51] <Morpheusxnl> just a general question, i have ubuntu 14.04 installed. Would it be wise to install cinnamon?
[09:53] <Sunstream> well it has a scary warning
[09:53] <Sunstream> and I wish I could use disk utility
[09:53] <Sunstream> but
[09:53] <Sunstream> it is not in lubuntu
[09:53] <ki7mt> Morpheusxnl, "wise" that's up to the user, using PPA's ans such is always at the users discretion.
[09:54] <Fatboy_Slim> Does anybody here use ubuntu on a high DPI laptop screen? I have a Lenovo laptop with 14" screen and 2560x1440 resolution. Im having problems getting large enough text size in all my programs :/
[09:54] <ki7mt> Morpheusxnl, If you want to test it safely, install VirtualBox, and install it there.
[09:55] <Sunstream> I got 0x41: Dirty bit is set. Fs was not properly unmounted and some data may be corrupt. ki7mt
[09:55] <sacarlson> Fatboy_Slim: I think there is a way to chage font size but might just be easier to change resolution of the screen more fitting for your vision
[09:55] <alokg> Do Selinux support ubuntu?
[09:55] <Sunstream> i did dismount the drive
[09:56] <Sunstream> before doing the command and this drive is "empty"
[09:56] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Like the others have posted, best way to run these thnigs is from a LiveCD, so yu cna ensure the volume is not mounted.
[09:56] <sacarlson> Fatboy_Slim: also if I recall when I tried to change font size it didn't seem to be active in all apps as some use different params I guess to change
[09:57] <Sunstream> well the file system is not mounted
[09:57] <Sunstream> I did unmount it
[09:57] <Sunstream> I know how to do that
[09:57] <oki> ki7mt: seems look some files doesn't upgraded yet, i in upgrade that files in process now and then i try to again install
[09:57] <Sunstream> I really do not want to mess around with liveCD
[09:58] <ki7mt> Sunstream, is this drive part of your installation or a secondary volume ?
[09:58] <ki7mt> oki, Ok
[09:58] <Sunstream> options are as follows Remove dirty bit or no action and this is the secondary volume or rather a seperate HDD that is not the system drive ki7mt
[10:00] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Ok, well if you've unmounted the volume, then should be ok. I dont knwo what Remove dirty bit means, so can't really advise on that.
[10:00] <Fatboy_Slim> sacarlson: yes thats my experience as well, changing font size don't work on all programs, and I need to set it manually in half of my programs :/
[10:01] <Sunstream> Well a "dirty bit" is part of fat32 that reports that it was not unmounted correctly or the system was turned off when it was in use. I will just remove it
[10:01] <Killj0y> i think its workin bruvs thnx
[10:01] <Killj0y> u
[10:02] <Killj0y> =
[10:02] <Killj0y> best
[10:02] <stevenblablabla> Killj0y:
[10:02] <Killj0y> yeh
[10:02] <stevenblablabla> go watch killbill and killbill 2
[10:02] <Killj0y> um...
[10:02] <Killj0y> ok?
[10:02] <Sunstream> Killj0y, why did you ask me about my IP
[10:02] <Killj0y> trying to freak u out as ajoke
[10:02] <Killj0y> lol
[10:03] <ki7mt> Sunstream, He just looked at you Nic, as it lists ur IP addy, no biggy.
[10:03] <stevenblablabla> Ubuntu sucks and you all know it!
[10:03] <stevenblablabla> Lol jk
[10:03] <Guest12343> it does?
[10:04] <Sunstream> heh
[10:04] <Sunstream> I know
[10:04] <stevenblablabla> get debian!
[10:04] <Meerkat> i'm not too happy about the amount of bugs still present in 14.04.
[10:04] <Killj0y> when i try to connect it says "Unable to connect to RDP server " and then my ip
[10:04] <Sunstream> Best works on a n00b who knows his/her ip but don't know what he was doing is harmless lol
[10:05] <Ben64> Meerkat: report them?
[10:05] <Killj0y> it says that when i try to connct to my other vaio laptop
[10:05] <Killj0y> HELP! PLZ
[10:05] <Meerkat> Ben64, they are all reported
[10:05] <Meerkat> well, most atleast.
[10:05] <ki7mt> Sunstream, If your really concerned, talks with Freenode about getting a cloak.
[10:06] <Guest12343> Anyone here familiar with lubuntu?
[10:06] <Killj0y> Sunstream to find out someones ip just click on their name its wut i did
[10:06] <Killj0y> now the...
[10:06] <Killj0y> PLZ HELP!
[10:06] <Killj0y> WITH THIS ISSUE
[10:06] <Guest12343> no....
[10:06] <Guest12343> I'm not that desperate.
[10:06] <Ben64> Killj0y: please don't
[10:06] <DJ_Unibob> I use ubuntu as well as kubuntu, not familiar with lubuntu, however.  :/
[10:06] <Killj0y> PLEASE DONT WUT
[10:07] <Guest12343> Just wondering if I can add the alt+f9/10 window commands.
[10:07] <ki7mt> Killj0y, what you doing is not an issue, you simply don't know how to access your sisters box, that would be between you and her.
[10:07] <Ben64> Killj0y: unnecessary lines like that, if you need help, use one line to fully explain the issue
[10:07] <sorinello> Hello. What is the solution for installing VBoxGuest Additions on an Ubuntu 14.10, since it seems that the X Server is not found anymore
[10:07] <Killj0y> i just explained the issu
[10:07] <Killj0y> when i try to connect it says "Unable to connect to RDP server " and then my ip
[10:08] <Ben64> Killj0y: so don't do the "plz help" stuff, it is not needed. 1. make sure the rdp server is running 2. make sure the network is working properly and the ports are open for rdp
[10:09] <Killj0y> does the rdp server haa
[10:09] <Killj0y> have to be running on her laptop as well?
[10:09] <ki7mt> and more than likely, the Windows machine is preventing access, not Ubuntu.
[10:09] <Ben64> it has to be running on whatever you want to connect to
[10:09] <Killj0y> i enabled acces like it said on the steps
[10:11] <cloudbud> I change the mysql data directory and now when restarting the mysql getting error start: Job failed to start
[10:11] <Killj0y> hello?
[10:11] <dmionica> Hi there. I'm having a problem with the latest LTS version of both ubuntu and xubuntu, I'm guessing it's related to network manager. PPTP VPN connections don't seem to work.
[10:12] <dmionica> does anyone know a workaround for this?
[10:12] <Killj0y> msg me if u can help
[10:12] <Sunstream> sigh
[10:13] <Ben64> Killj0y: join ##windows for help getting rdp set up on the windows machine
[10:13] <Killj0y> ok
[10:14] <ki7mt> cloudbud, Did you follow a How-Too, as there's several steps required to move the data-dir
[10:15] <dmionica> Anyone?
[10:16] <ki7mt> !patience | dmionica
[10:21] <cloudbud> ki7mt : yes i have '
[10:22] <ki7mt> cloudbud, this one look fairly comprehensive, http://askubuntu.com/questions/137424/moving-mysql-datadir
[10:29] <porterhouse> hello, i would like to connect to ssh through a port other than 22 / 21. how can i know that the new port i am changing to is not alreasy taken?
[10:30] <sacarlson> dmionica: it might be you need to install some package for it to be suported
[10:30] <sacarlson> dmionica: I've never used pptp but openvpn is the same needing to install something
[10:30] <porterhouse> lets say i want to use port 6392, how can i be sure i am not blocking another service that is using it?
[10:32] <dmionica> sacarlson, The thing is I want to use PPTP instead because it's easier for me to set it up on any computer, even if I don't have admin rights.
[10:32] <billbo> ^porterhouse: Ubuntu has a /etc/services file which lists the most commonly used services even if you don't have them installed on that system.
[10:33] <dmionica> sacarlson, I've used openvpn before, but as for what I need to do, I need PPTP, which is set up on my Asus router, and everything worked fine until I updated to LTS 14
[10:33] <sacarlson> cloudbud: I'm not sure what your reading to tell you how to move it so best show us that.  also mysql might have security limits setup on ubuntu that allow it access to only certain locations unless changed
[10:34] <billbo> ^porterhouse: You can also  use"netstat -ta" to list which services you are current running.   Look for LISTEN state entries
[10:34] <porterhouse> billbo thank you, that is what i found online but could not fully understand
[10:35] <sacarlson> dmionica: check in synaptic to verify that pptp-linux is installed and if so maybe reinstall it
[10:35] <porterhouse> i see a few states - ESTABLISHED , TIME_WAIT , LISTEN,   which one means i can use that port?
[10:36] <sacarlson> dmionica: there are 3 others I see in sysnaptic with pp2p in the name.  it might be any of those
[10:36] <dmionica> sacarlson, apt-get says pptp-linux is at the latest version.
[10:37] <sacarlson> dmionica: so you do see it in network-manager then?
[10:37] <porterhouse> lets say i would like to see specifically about port 18355, what should i look for?
[10:38] <dmionica> sacarlson, the VPN option? It is there, but it always says "The VPN connection <name> failed"
[10:38] <bodom> Hi there, i've just upgraded to 14.10 and now my column list is empty in mysql-workbench. Anyone with the same issue?
[10:38] <billbo> porterhouse: Any entry in the local address column is in use at the moment.   Entries that are in LISTEN state are for actual servers.  The other states are related to established or old connections.
[10:38] <dmionica> i wrote <name> out of lazyness, btw :)
[10:39] <ki7mt> porterhouse, sudo netstat -tapen | grep ":<port-number>"
[10:39] <sacarlson> dmionica: ok well I'm not sure I've never used pptp so at most you might try connect from the command line as at times you see more info that way
[10:40] <sacarlson> dmionica: also verify from another path that the pptp is still working on the other end
[10:40] <dmionica> sacarlson, PPTP is working fine from Windows
[10:40] <billbo> porterhouse:   Each end of a connection has a port number.  That's why you need to look at the local address column.
[10:40] <dmionica> sacarlson, what do you mean from the command line? You mean configuring pptp without network manager?
[10:41] <sacarlson> dmionica: yes
[10:41] <porterhouse> ki7mt, if i enterred that line and it did not output anything, does that mean that that port is not in use and i am free to use it?
[10:41] <dmionica> sacarlson, I'm not sure how to do that, I've never configured PPTP from command line.
[10:41] <sacarlson> dmionica: all you see from networkmanager is true false it worked or not
[10:42] <sacarlson> dmionica: well your one up on me I"ve never configured it even with network-manager
[10:42] <ki7mt> porterhouse, it means, there's nothign "at the moment" listengin on that port number, but does not mean, you dont have multiple servers configured to sue that port if started.
[10:42] <porterhouse> billbo, i see, and if the port i am looking for is not on that list, does that mean that it is free or does it mean that ubuntu is not listening to it and i need to pick something from the list or add it to the list?
[10:42] <ki7mt> .. configured to use .. ..
[10:43] <dmionica> sacarlson, hmm... nevermind, apparently there is a problem with the encryption type o.O
[10:44] <sacarlson> dmionica: see that may have been more aparent at the command line
[10:44] <porterhouse> ki7mt, that sounds bad - if i use a port that i see is now free, later on some other program might start and decide to use it too?
[10:46] <ki7mt> porterhouse, Indeed, that would not be good.
[10:47] <ki7mt> porterhouse, that is why, radomly chaging ports on services it not wise, and should only be done by the server admins.
[10:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:51] <ki7mt> Hello
[10:53] <blaaa> can I use aptitude on ubuntu 14.04?
[10:54] <steve_fi> Hey, I am wondering if there's something I need to turn on to use systemd-analyze in 14.10. I get weird errors when running it, such as: Failed to issue method call: No such property 'FirmwareTimestampMonotonic'
[10:58] <sabbie> I have two nodes running the same ubuntu version/configuration. When I do apt-get update, one of the nodes gives me a 404 on http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages for some reason. The other node updates fine. What could cause this?
[10:58] <vaskozl> Hey, on one of my computer I have wubi installed and running 14.04
[10:58] <vaskozl> can I safely delete windows?
[10:58] <porterhouse> ki7mt , billbo,   thank you very much i got what i needed
[10:58] <vaskozl> And just get left with 14.04?
[10:59] <einyx> networking probably
[10:59] <einyx> sabbie, ^
[10:59] <sacarlson> sabbie: at the same time?
[10:59] <sabbie> einyx: network is working fine, both nodes can download the Packages.gz file on that url
[11:00] <sabbie> sacarlson, yes, I'm running the update at both nodes at the same time. One node 404s while the other succeeds every time
[11:01] <sacarlson> sabbie: oh maybe the server side see's too much trafic to your ip and is adding limits.  just a bad guess but you could try another repo mirror on the other
[11:01] <einyx> sabbie, i get 404 as well on that link
[11:01] <einyx> maybe that webserver pool is behind a load balancer
[11:01] <einyx> and the less loaded webserver we are being redirected to is fucked
[11:01] <moran75> #badajoz
[11:02] <vaskozl> so can I remove windows?
[11:02] <sacarlson> vaskozl: you can close them
[11:02] <vaskozl> as in windows 7
[11:02] <vaskozl> I have a wubi insallation
[11:02] <sacarlson> vaskozl: sure it's a free world
[11:03] <vaskozl> updated to 14.04
[11:03] <vaskozl> so it's safe?
[11:03] <sacarlson> vaskozl: oh wubi then I guess not
[11:03] <vaskozl> har
[11:03] <vaskozl> anything I can do to make it standalone?
[11:04] <sacarlson> vaskozl: ya install it on a spare partition
[11:04] <vaskozl> are they installed on the same partition otherwise?
[11:04] <vaskozl> otherwise = trough wubi
[11:04] <penny> hi
[11:04] <sacarlson> vaskozl: in your case yes its installed on a virtual partion inside windows
[11:04] <Guest90199> Do we all have liunx I have
[11:05] <vaskozl> sacarlson: ok thanks
[11:05] <vaskozl> now I know
[11:05] <Svetlana> yes Guest90199
[11:05] <sabbie> einyx: but why would I be able to download the Packages.gz file then?
[11:05] <Guest90199> what is best windows or liunx
[11:05] <sabbie> I did find this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1027801
[11:06] <Henriksen> hi
[11:06] <trijntje> Guest90199: you can use whatever you like, this channel is for technical support with ubuntu, not discussions
[11:06] <Henriksen> Hi some strange issue with my linux i could not ping anything , lights was on net port and ifconfig eth0 all fine . Then I reboot to some random live CD to see if it hardware issue but that worked fine.. then i boot BACK to my linux and voila it also works again, so i cant understand it like something got reset? I tried everything before dhcpcd dhclient, static ip etc etc but nothing would work anyone know what could have been res
[11:06] <einyx> sabbie, cause that part maybe is not fucked
[11:06] <hashworks> When I open a new link in chrome it moves chrome to the main monitor, same for other programs. Any way to turn this behaviour off?
[11:07] <einyx> sabbie, normally this shit happen when the mirroring is happening in the background
[11:07] <einyx> change mirror
[11:10] <hardtail>  anyone know how to work through black screen of death while trying to install//load ubuntu
[11:10] <sabbie> einyx: it works with the german mirror. I'm still pretty curious what could cause this though..
[11:11] <sabbie> both nodes get exactly the same http responses..
[11:12] <b3h3m0th> one of my keys (say i) is not working. There is a key which I hardly use (say `). How do I bind ` hardware key to i ?
[11:12] <hashworks> hardtail: Add nomodeset to the boot parameters
[11:12] <DJones> !nomodeset | hashworks
[11:13] <sacarlson> sabbie: that bug was last seen in 2012 so I"m not sure it's related or not
[11:15] <hardtail> @hashworks in my install last night we added no mode set and when rebooted after the install the computer is inoperable - just black
[11:16] <hashworks> What graphic card is used?
[11:17] <hardtail> it's an integrated intel
[11:17] <hashworks> And the display is connected by motherboard?
[11:17] <hashworks> Should work out of the box
[11:17] <hardtail> I would assume so, it's a transformer book
[11:17] <hardtail> well i can't even load bios now
[11:19] <iiiiiii> try to use RGB/HDMI port with external monitor
[11:20] <hardtail> i can't use an external monitor it's a hybrid tablet/laptop doesn't have the port
[11:21] <hashworks> Model?
[11:22] <hardtail> asus transformer book t100
[11:22] <Jeeves_Moss> hardtail, good little toy
[11:22] <Jeeves_Moss> you can use the micro HDMI
[11:22] <hardtail> jeeves_moss i thought so too, i hate windows XD...yes i do not have one
[11:23] <hardtail> http://www.jfwhome.com/2014/03/07/perfect-ubuntu-or-other-linux-on-the-asus-transformer-book-t100/
[11:23] <Jeeves_Moss> hardtail, well, I've yet to get past the loading part.  I can't get it to see anything other than windows
[11:23] <hardtail> following this specific tutorial jeeves
[11:24] <Jeeves_Moss> ohhh, watch out Windows, you've got a new contender.
[11:24] <Jeeves_Moss> right now, I'm almost 100% out of space on the root, and all of that is windows BLOAT!
[11:26] <hardtail> ok. i made a new bootable usb. i can load grub. is there anything we can do from here
[11:26] <hashworks> Jeeves_Moss: Left windows in another partition in case I would need it, after 2 months without booting it I might blow it into space now :D
[11:27] <Jeeves_Moss> lol.  well, would be nice to unlock all the shiny in the EFI.  like 64 bit windows and the VT abilities
[11:29] <Jeeves_Moss> <goes looking for an extenal drive>.....
[11:29] <Jeeves_Moss> before I blow my copy away, is there a good Ubuntu replacement for Outlook that talkes nativly to exchange?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> Jeeves_Moss, there's one that's hit the news - wait 1
[11:30] <Jeeves_Moss> ok.  I was using some plugin for Thunderbird, then they got all preachy about it and wanted $$
[11:32] <Jeeves_Moss> holly hell, this'll take the rest of the night.