[11:00] <denverdave> morning.... Gnome Terminal, how do I delete the cache? thanks
[11:01] <anirudh0> xenomorph99, dunno..never understood the uuid system :)
[11:01] <san|> thegeek: I believe you have to tell grub where it can find the configuration files which are on you linux partition.
[11:01] <xenomorph99> Me neither ;-)
[11:01] <thegeek> san|: Mmmmm....
[11:01] <anirudh0> denverdave, you mean terminal scrollback..what cache?
[11:01] <denverdave> yeah, terminal scrollback
[11:01] <thegeek> san|: Okay, well I'll look at some docs for a bit, thanks =)
[11:01] <denverdave> same thing
[11:01] <san|> thegeek: check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:01] <renegade444> cebrail: I can give you commandline instructions, if you want that instead of the synaptic instructions you already got.
[11:01] <san|> thegeek: there is all the info required
[11:02] <xenomorph99> Is there a way of naming the partitions without wrecking them? I try this in gparted and it says it will destroy them and when I try it in Norton Partition tragic, it moans about one of my partitions being an incorrect size
[11:02] <san|> thegeek: it's been a while for me (not using windows anymore on this machine :) )
[11:02] <anirudh0> denverdave, set in in your terminal profile..edit->profile
[11:02] <selocol> anirudh0: thanks
[11:02] <denverdave> I've already checked the net, and nothing dispositive.
[11:02] <denverdave> ok hold on
[11:02] <Cipry007> robg_: i installd updates but didint restarted yet ... i see alot of sun java things
[11:02] <thegeek> san|: Yeah, I got that one up....well it's a simple template but it doesn't really fully explain what you're doing I think.
[11:02] <anirudh0> denverdave, there is a scrolling option in the profile..limit that to what you need
[11:02] <thegeek> san|: I wouldn't be using Windows at all either, except I need it to play The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
[11:02] <thegeek> :P
[11:02] <denverdave> ic hold on
[11:03] <robg_> Cipry007: just untick OpenJDK in Synaptic and tick Sun Java.
[11:03] <anirudh0> denverdave, but why do it?..scollback is one of the nice things in the terminal
[11:03] <san|> thegeek: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3150
[11:03] <thegeek> san|: Ah so the setup line "setup (hd0)" is what installs it to the MBR....
[11:03] <renegade444> I've gotten oblivion running under wine with the genuine m$ .dlls ;)
[11:03] <denverdave> because I am handing the computer over to the client
[11:03] <denverdave> and don't want to see what else I've installed as a surprise, if he doesn't pay me
[11:04] <denverdave> want him to see..
[11:04] <thegeek> san|: Ahaha, wine and I are not best friends.
[11:04] <san|> thegeek: I'm off (have to work on my thesis *sigh*) goodluck!
[11:04] <robg_> Cipry007: and ofcourse: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:04] <Cipry007> robg_: ok but i see alot of sun java like : sun java6-bin or sun-java6-jdk sunt-java6-jre or sun-java6-plugin and alot more
[11:04] <san|> playonlinux is also quite nice
[11:04] <denverdave> that worked great
[11:04] <dazjorz> Hi
[11:04] <denverdave> thanks
[11:04] <robg_> Cipry007: you dont need a development environment, you need a runtime environment.
[11:04] <anirudh0> denverdave, heheh
[11:04] <dazjorz> I think something's wrong in Hurdy's repositories
[11:04] <dazjorz> The following packages have unmet dependencies: kdelibs5-dev: Depends: kdelibs5 (= 4:4.0.4-0ubuntu1~hardy1) but 4:4.0.80-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2 is to be installed
[11:04] <killzone> alot dx9 games run with decent on vmwareplayer with the beta tools installed
[11:05] <dazjorz> How do I fix this?
[11:05] <denverdave> here's something you might want to look at
[11:05] <denverdave> installing lkl
[11:05] <denverdave> it's the keylogger
[11:05] <thegeek> san|: Thanks, and thanks for the help, good luck on your thesis =)
[11:05] <denverdave> and then I put it in rc.local, with forwarding to my email address
[11:05] <san|> thegeek: k, tnx
[11:05] <anirudh0> denverdave, you have a devious mind
[11:05] <mohamed_> hello all, how to stop openoffice from alert to upgrade ?
[11:05] <podr0znik> is there anybody here with time and patience to walk me through the installation of a label printer?
[11:06] <denverdave> apt-get install, or synaptic lkl and then readme
[11:06] <denverdave> thanks bye
[11:06] <xenomorph99> Is there a way of naming the partitions without wrecking them? I try this in gparted and it says it will destroy them and when I try it in Norton Partition tragic, it moans about one of my partitions being an incorrect size
[11:06] <robg_> podrOznik: I have installed a standard Canon MP210 printer from the driver list.
[11:07] <podr0znik> robg_: For what kind of printer?
[11:07] <anirudh0> xenomorph99, i used to do it in win explorer..right click on the disk label..change it
[11:07] <metroside> Is there a way of expanding the allocated space for a install of Ubuntu 8.04 within windows?
[11:07] <renegade444> I'm disturbed by denverdave. A computer professional installing a keylogger as payment insurance? Very disturbing....
[11:07] <robg_> podrOznik: a standard printer not a label printer.
[11:07] <ben_underscore> renegade444: not to mention illegal
[11:08] <suRs> how do i come to my desktop settings?
[11:08] <podr0znik> robg_: I see.  It seems that I changed a partition size with gparted and now Partition tragic and cfdisk both complain about it. Is there an easy way of fixing it? If I delete it, all my partitions will shuffle down I suspect?
[11:08] <ben_underscore> suRs: what do you want to do?
[11:08] <robg_> podrOznik: I simply picked a suitable driver from the list and it worked.
[11:08] <suRs> i whant to change my theme settings :S
[11:09] <suRs> i dont whant to change the whole theme just some settings and colours
[11:09] <anirudh0> ben_underscore, legality depends on the country you are in
[11:09] <podr0znik> robg_: I'm not sure even how far I am now, I have a driver installed (I think so at least) - ptouch, recommended
[11:09] <podr0znik> but nothing works so far
[11:09] <killzone> acronis partition manager is pretty good for fixing up a drive with a hosed partition table
[11:09] <ben_underscore> suRs: go to "appearance" in the system area menu and do it there
[11:10] <ubuntunew]> anyone havea few mins to help someone new to ubuntu having installation problems?
[11:10] <killzone> not sure how limited the demo version is tho
[11:10] <anirudh0> !ask> ubuntunew]
[11:10] <robg_> podrOznik: I had to wrestle with it for a while before it worked. I have no experience with label printers.
[11:10] <jin> hey
[11:10] <suRs> ben_underscore i have xubuntu
[11:10] <podr0znik> robg_: Ok, thanks :)
[11:10] <podr0znik> but in a channel with that many people, there must be sb with some experience :P
[11:10] <ben_underscore> suRs: sorry - don't know then :-(
[11:10] <renegade444> ben_underscore: I would be a little less disturbed if he had given it an expiration date, meaning the machine would stop unless some code was input after some amount of time, meaning no payment, computer stops. That would still be disturbing, but not as disturbing as the keylogger.
[11:11] <xenomorph99> I wouldn' t say it was hosed. Just one of them reports the size wrong. I took 1 partition and split it into 3 and since then it's been moaning about the size. Am I better to recombine the 3 ?
[11:11] <jin> こんにちは。
[11:11] <Lr5> "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4.0K 2008-05-31 13:09 /sys/power/image_size", should the file size be that small in Ubuntu 8.04?
[11:11] <robg_> podrOznik: try to Google it.
[11:11] <klathzaz2> I am just guessing ncurses is not available through apt-get?
[11:11] <podr0znik> doing that already since yesterday evening
[11:11] <klathzaz2> how do I verify something like that? I have been searching for it
[11:12] <metroside> Is there a way of expanding the allocated space for a install of Ubuntu 8.04 within windows?
[11:12] <klathzaz2> but I hvae not found it
[11:12] <xenomorph99> try sudo apt-get install ncu then press tab and see if it comes up as an option
[11:12] <robg_> podrOznik: any info available from printer manufacturer ?
[11:12] <ben_underscore> klathzaz2: it's called ncurses-base
[11:12] <killzone> it sounds like there is just a small error in the master partition record
[11:12] <anirudh0> suRs, iirc xfce also has a display config..in the main config editor
[11:12] <xenomorph99> Which gparted put there, I suspect.
[11:13] <ubuntunew]> well I installed ubuntu about a year ago on a desktop no probemss, anyway i have a laptop that was running vista, so i got an ubuntu studio cd, I have it installed, unfortunately iy opens to a command line not a desktop, and i cant boot to a different cd not to install anything else
[11:13] <klathzaz2> killzone: thanks
[11:13] <podr0znik> robg_: found some website now
[11:13] <ubuntunew]> does anyone have some suggestions pls?
[11:13] <podr0znik> the manual itself says that it's only compatbile with Windows and Mac
[11:13] <podr0znik> which I don't want to believe ;)
[11:13] <klathzaz2> xenomorph99: thanks- wow can't believe that works
[11:13] <xenomorph99> I'll delete the partitions then use cfdisk or whatever to recreate 1 in the place of the 3. It'll no doubt screw up my install, though, as it shuffles the partitions about. Is there a way of stopping that?
[11:14] <xenomorph99> Klath. Yeah, it's a nice feature that
[11:14] <BoltClock> after installing updates recently (i believe 3 days ago), grub now reports two ubuntu installations on my pc alongside windows... both are hardy which is what i use, but one is of kernel 2.6.24-17 and another 2.6.24-16
[11:14] <vic1ous> Hey Guys, Quick question I want to install a partition of windows without getting rid of my Ubuntu partition. I have been looking on the web on how to do this for a while now but still I have no clue. can anyone help me out?
[11:14] <robg_> podrOznik: my canon manual tells me that too but I still get it to work in Ubuntu.
[11:14] <ubuntunew]> any ideas anyone?
[11:14] <anirudh0> BoltClock, but that is alright..unless you want to save space by removing the older one
[11:15] <BoltClock> anirudh0: no, there is only one ubuntu installation on my pc
[11:15] <BoltClock> grub seems to be reporting two of them
[11:15] <anirudh0> BoltClock, installation!=kernel_number
[11:15] <podr0znik> robg_: I found a manual which is in pretty clear English, so I'll give it a try
[11:15] <BoltClock> anirudh0: so i have two kernels now?
[11:15] <anirudh0> BoltClock, you have 2 kernels, but one "installation"
[11:15] <xenomorph99> OK. When I add a new HDD, my /dev/sda becomes /dev/sdb. Is there a way of preventing this?
[11:16] <anirudh0> BoltClock, and grub chooses one of them at boot time
[11:16] <robg_> podrOznik: I needed a Pixma 200 driver but Ubuntu only offered Pixma 180 so I tried that and it worked.
[11:16] <anirudh0> BoltClock, i'd advise preserving the older kernel..sometimes the new one misbehaves
[11:16] <Cipry007> babolat: i installed all those things but i still cant change my resolution my graphic card is in use not
[11:16] <BoltClock> anirudh0: i see. so the older kernel is kept there as backup so to speak?
[11:17] <zeroXten> anyone else being told by update manager that they have to do a partial upgrade? (which in my case then fails)
[11:17] <killzone> are they sata ?
[11:17] <xenomorph99> My HDDs?
[11:17] <killzone> yea
[11:17] <xenomorph99> One is, one is IDE
[11:17] <xenomorph99> When I add the IDE, it displaces the SATA
[11:17] <robg_> Cipry007: Sun Java gives me 1440 x 900 by default, the maximum my cheapo monitor can take.
[11:17] <killzone> change the order in the bios
[11:17] <anirudh0> BoltClock, sort of
[11:18] <xenomorph99> The boot order ?
[11:18] <Cipry007> robg_ my resolution is 640x480 and i dont have any other choice in the screen resoultion thing only lower
[11:18] <BoltClock> anirudh0: alright. i thought it was a messed up grub or something lol. thanks!
[11:18] <killzone> should be another menu for changing the drive order too
[11:18] <anirudh0> zeroXten, do a apt-get dist-upgrade from the terminal
[11:18] <anirudh0> BoltClock, np
[11:18] <killzone> on my bios its under advanced
[11:18] <xenomorph99> It must be getting the boot order the same as before as it boots off the SATA drive first
[11:18] <babolat> Cipry007: ok
[11:18] <Dr_willis> xenomorph99,  that happends on my systems also. thats one of the reasons the use of UUID's in the fstab is a good idea
[11:18] <robg_> Cipry007: If you have installed everything maybe a restart is necessary.
[11:19] <babolat> Cipry007: your best bet now is probably use envy if you have nVidia or ATI
[11:19] <xenomorph99> Yes, but how do you know what UUID applies to which partition?
[11:19] <Cipry007> robg_: i did restarted my computer
[11:19] <zeroXten> k anirudh0
[11:19] <Cipry007> babolat: i have nVidia
[11:19] <xenomorph99> It's fine if you do a fresh install as Ubuntu goes and adds the UUIDs to the fstab for you
[11:19] <Cipry007> my screen is so big now i cant even click on System ... it will open something else
[11:19] <Dr_willis> xenomorph99,  ls -l /dev/disk-by/uuid (i think)
[11:19] <babolat> !envy | Cipry007 your best bet now is probably Envy. -->
[11:19] <anirudh0> xenomorph99, file /dev/disk/by-uuid/<file-name>
[11:20] <koheleth> btw if you have a ati card do not use Fedora 9, there are no drivers for it
[11:20] <dxdemetriou> if is there a partial upgrade and instead of update manager used synaptic it could be a problem?
[11:20] <koheleth> I found out yestaday after installing it
[11:20] <xenomorph99> That will list files on a particular partition?
[11:20] <xenomorph99> Suppose the partitions are empty? Like mine
[11:20] <rconan> can anyone help me with this error while trying to encode with dvd::rip? http://rafb.net/p/5JFp9837.html
[11:20] <xenomorph99> I have to add files to them first to differentiate them?
[11:20] <babolat> dxdemetriou: please rephrase to help us understand better
[11:21] <sidelil> Excuse me, in Gutsy when i was asking to connect to a SSH server, a mounted folder remained on my desktop even after rebooting. In Hardy upon reboot is gone. How can i keep it on the desktop? Shall i add it to fstab?
[11:21] <anirudh0> xenomorph99, you wanted to find the uuid of a partition
[11:21] <anirudh0> !ask> xenomorph99
[11:21] <xenomorph99> Yes, I do
[11:21] <anirudh0> sorry
[11:21] <anirudh0> !who> xenomorph99
[11:22] <anirudh0> xenomorph99, he uuid's are visible in /dev/disk/by-uuid
[11:22] <anirudh0> xenomorph99, you should see a bunch of files there..they are all symbolic links..and the file command shows you what partition they point to
[11:22] <moDumass> hey all, i have a logitech communicator webcam
[11:22] <moDumass> and i am struggling to install it
[11:23] <moDumass> does anyone know of a website that may assist
[11:23] <xenomorph99> Ah, I see. That works. Thanks
[11:23] <anirudh0> moDumass, google for gspca
[11:23] <moDumass> thanks anirudh0>
[11:23] <jimcooncat> sidelil: I don't know the real answer, but you could use sshfs instead and add the mount command to your session startup
[11:23] <dxdemetriou> When I used the "Update Manager" today, it said about a partial upgrade. When I tried do to the partial upgrade it couldn't completed. So, I used the "Synaptic Package Manager" for the updates, but I don't know if this can cause problems later
[11:24] <kling0n> anirudh0: what is the model name of then camera?
[11:24] <kling0n> anirudh0: oops mis
[11:24] <sidelil> jimcooncat, ok thanks!
[11:24] <philsf> dxdemetriou: it probably won't, but what was the package that was not upgradable?
[11:25] <anirudh0> dxdemetriou, , do a apt-get dist-upgrade from the terminal
[11:25] <dxdemetriou> philsf, I don't know. it said about pre-released releases and unsupported packages
[11:25] <n3urogod> hey guys...I just reinstalled my system using Ubuntu 8.04 and installed envyng-gtk, then ran envyng and installed the driver for my nvidia card which appeared to work and asked me to reboot, which I did. When it booted up it said "System is running in low video mode" so I went in and selected the nvidia card, my monitor and changed the resolution to 1280x1024 @ 75Hz (the default for my LCD), but it booted using 800x600 again....I got a
[11:25] <n3urogod> popup saying I was using a restricted driver and in "Hardware Drivers" it now has the nvidia driver selcted and "in use".....but if I run glxgears I get "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".....I checked the xorg.conf and I definitely have glx being loaded....any ideas?
[11:25] <anirudh0> !list>anirudh0
[11:26] <Jadd> What does a partial upgrade mean?
[11:26] <anirudh0> strange..ubottu is offline
[11:26] <philsf> dxdemetriou: well, without the proper information, it's hard to tell exactly what went on, but if you opened synaptic and it didn't complain, it's a safe bet that nothing's wrong
[11:26] <anirudh0> any ops here, why is ubottu offline?
[11:27] <Dr_willis> recharging her batteries?
[11:27] <Lr5> Does the hibernating thing use /sys/power/image_size, and should it be more than 524288000 if you have 2 gb of ram?
[11:27] <philsf> Jadd: it could be that the new version of a package depends on another package that's not installed. update-manager can't deal with this, synaptic can
[11:27] <Cipry007> i restarted computer again and still cant make resoulustion higher then 640x480
[11:28] <philsf> Jadd: meaning, update manager won't install new packages to satisfy dependencies
[11:28] <Jadd> philsf: I enabled the proposed updates, is this normal for proposed?
[11:28] <anirudh0> Dr_willis, bots have  genders?
[11:28] <Dr_willis> anirudh0,  youve never seen those Heavy Metal Magazine Fem-bots eh? :)
[11:29] <kobrux> Hey can anyone help me with my sound?
[11:29] <philsf> Jadd: I wouldn't say 'normal', but it's not unexpected. If you're in doubt, use synaptic
[11:29] <kobrux> My card is 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[11:29] <kobrux> and i dont have any sound at all in linux...
[11:29] <dxdemetriou> philsf, I didn't have problem with synaptic. it's just I wanted to understand the reason of partial updates. The only I know is that it cleaning packages that don't needed
[11:30] <philsf> dxdemetriou: as I said, it's not as simple as "the" reason. could be a number of things
[11:30] <larson9999> i think i should file a bug but i don't know how to now.  the issue is i had 4 computers running ubuntu for the past 2 years or so.  all ran fine except one of  the 2 laptops.  it crashed once or twice a day EVERYDAY for the whole time through all the distros and many clean installs.
[11:30] <philsf> dxdemetriou: without more information, I can't tell you more
[11:30] <Jadd> OK, thanks philsf
[11:31] <sriram> how do i solve this: "The application 'evolution' (/usr/bin/evolution) wants access to the default keyring, but it is locked."
[11:31] <sriram> it started oming since the time i updated my sys. yesterday
[11:31] <Jadd> I got another question: if my bug is marked as duplicate, it's been fixed but the fix doesn't work for me, should I file a new bug? (launchpad ubuntu of course)
[11:31] <julle_> could someone help me get ubuntus nvidia gfx drivers to work under gutsy again? i've upgraded linux modules and after that it stopped working
[11:32] <larson9999> I finally got fed up with it and went distro shopping.  i tried sabayon for a week before i settled on slackware.  i've been on slackware for about a week now.  neither of these has crashed on me even once.
[11:32] <anirudh0> larson9999, err...thats not much to put in a big report..unless you can give some indication about _why_ the laps crashed
[11:32] <anirudh0> *bug
[11:32] <philsf> Jadd: depends on the particular issue, but you should add a comment in the master bug
[11:32] <philsf> Jadd: what's the bug number?
[11:33] <Jadd> philsf, just a sec, I'll find it
[11:33] <nantax> help me please... i have entered something in my keyboard and my screen zoomed in and now it looks like im looking at a magnifying glass
[11:33] <anirudh0> sriram, accessories>keyrings
[11:33] <larson9999> anirudh0, that's the problem.  i always thought i just didn't set something up correctly or it was somehow else my fault.  but now i don't.  but i don't want to install ubuntu on it just to see if i can find info for a bug report.
[11:33] <nantax> i can scroll around the screen and i dont know how to get out of this mode
[11:33] <anirudh0> nantax, restart x..ctrl alt del
[11:34] <sriram> anirudh0: there is no such program under accessories, do you actually mean seahorse, anyway?
[11:34] <anirudh0> larson9999, a drivers issue maybe..hard to say since you have already removed it
[11:34] <ubuntunew]> i have installed ubuntu to my laptop but it opens to a commant line and wont do anything at all, can anyone give me a hand or advice
[11:34] <nantax> is there a hotkey of some sort to put it back at normal? it looks like a disability feature that will allow you to zoom in to your desktop
[11:34] <ubuntunew]> command*
[11:34] <philsf> nantax: try win+1
[11:34] <anirudh0> sriram, yes..sorry :)
[11:34] <kqr-arch> i have installed ubuntu, and i have no sound... i got the recommendation to install alsa as sound server, and i did... but when i try to launch alsamixer it says "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device" anyone know why? o_O
[11:35] <Jadd> philsf: got it: bug number #215573
[11:35] <robg_> ubuntunew]: consult Google for successful Linux installs for your laptop.
[11:35] <philsf> nantax: or hold the win key, and scroll with your mouse
[11:35] <dazjorz> kqr-arch: because it's not the sound server that's the problem, it's the fact that your soundcard wasn't found
[11:35] <nanoprobe> hello @all
[11:35] <sriram> anirudh0: and how do i unlock seahorse?
[11:35] <anirudh0> nantax, on compiz?
[11:35] <nantax> lol that did it than you very much
[11:35] <anirudh0> sriram, not very sure..look up the authorizations thing under sys>admin
[11:36] <Jadd> philsf: I had marked it as the duplicate, because I thought the updated package fixed the problem, but it didn't
[11:36] <nanoprobe> like always, full house :D
[11:36] <ubuntunew]> i have and i havent found anything, but i am unable to force it to boot to cd so i cn get to some other os\
[11:36] <sriram> anirudh0: i have actually set the default passphrase to ultimate and tried entering it in that box, still it complains.
[11:36] <kqr-arch> dazjorz: ok, if i try lspci would i find no sound unit?
[11:36] <kantor> Hi, I was wondering if it's a good idea to create a Linux program that can make full backup of the hard disk partitions, and can restore them (master boot record and all the primary, extended . . . partition records) if you messed up your hard drive. Would that be useful ?
[11:36] <dazjorz> kqr-arch: then you probably wouldn't find sound hardware, no
[11:36] <kqr-arch> dazjorz: i tried lspci and found the card... that's the problem... it says ""00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)"
[11:36] <anirudh0> kantor, lots of those exist..partimage for instance
[11:37] <dazjorz> kqr-arch: search online for the error you get and "intel ac'97 audio controller"
[11:37] <larson9999> anirudh0 yeah but what would be persistent since hoary?  since i mostly noticed the crashes when flash was running i thought it was flash or many the graphics card but niether sabayon nor slackware seem to care how much flash i watch.
[11:37] <robg_> kantor: I prefer to write files to removable media and simply do a re-install when the system becomes unusable.
[11:37] <renegade444> http://pastebin.com/m1efff6a        1-month, both the only dave and the whole log from login to logout
[11:37] <officina> salve
[11:37] <klathzaz2> I got build essentials- but now when I build I get a lot of errors.  I have had these types of errors bfore and I forget what I did to fix, I know it may be a missing dependency. They show on things like : __STD_ and __gnu_cxx:: etc complaining about namespace.  Any ideas?  I am thinking ths is a C++ issue?
[11:37] <renegade444> oops, sorry, wrong window
[11:37] <kantor> ok, I just want to write a program for Linux but I don't know what :(
[11:38] <|_DJ_|> orphean: my sound works :)
[11:38] <klathzaz2> kantor: hello world
[11:38] <nanoprobe> i installed wirelles driver, and it says that hardware is present, but don't know how to activate wifi, since the wifi indicator is not on
[11:38] <robg_> kantor: Linux already has too many programs.
[11:38] <anirudh0> kantor, :)..try fixing bugs first..its a lot more useful
[11:38] <kqr-arch> dazjorz: thanks, i'll search a little and report back (:
[11:38] <Dr_willis> kantor,  theres allready dozens of ways to backup/restore :)
[11:39] <Dr_willis> we need more howtos and docs and wikis!
[11:39] <klathzaz2> kantor: make a program thatlets me have roaming mouse and keyboard between different machines over network- so I can have multiple displays of multiple machines but use one mouse and keyboard to focus their inputs
[11:39] <kantor> klathzaz2, I'm not a beginner, I already wrote an utility application for optical drives
[11:39] <philsf> Jadd: if you're sure the bug you reported is a dup, forget it, and add comments in the bug it duplicates
[11:39] <nanoprobe> key combination that works in vista don't work in ubuntu (to activate wlan)
[11:39] <nantax> okay im just wondering, what did i press that made the screen zoom in which was fixed by the win+scroll mouse, i can't zoom in again. might come in handy someday
[11:39] <philsf> Jadd: in your case, bug #200142
[11:39] <Dr_willis> klathzaz2,  thats 'syngery' i belive :)
[11:39] <Dr_willis> klathzaz2,  i an controll my laptop  from this desktop machine  with 1 keyvboard/mouse
[11:39] <anirudh0> nantax, you probably had "zoom" enabled in compiz..look up ccsm
[11:39] <ubuntunew]> hmmm guys i really need just a tiny bit of help
[11:40] <Jadd> philsf: but I'm not sure it's a duplicate, since it seemed to have fixed it for the other bug reporter
[11:40] <nanoprobe> anyone willing to help me with wlan activation? (God help us :D)
[11:40] <klathzaz2> Dr_willis: oh nice
[11:40] <nantax> anirudh0:  i have compiz and i pressed something and the screen zoomed in, do you know what made it do that?
[11:40] <ubuntunew]> i have a windows bootable instaooation disc in my dvd drive and want to force it to run, any ideas?
[11:40] <klathzaz2> Dr_willis: my new philosophy on software is that 'its been done, find it' rather tahn 'I wonder if I should a program that does xyz'
[11:40] <Dr_willis> klathzaz2,  yep. :)  not too hard to set up. takes a little thinking/config.  just rember to STOP  the syngery server when the wife takes the laptop upstairs.
[11:40] <nantax> I was trying to map win+e but now i know that its bound to the expo something
[11:41] <philsf> Jadd: is it really crashes, or freezes?
[11:41] <zeroXten> synergy rules
[11:41] <klathzaz2> freaking amazing
[11:41] <robg_> ubuntunew] you usually have to keep your finger pressed on the boot options key (usually F8).
[11:41] <nantax> got it, its win+r
[11:42] <Jadd> philsf: you know, I've always wondered what the difference was. Everything stops moving, including mouse cursor, ctrl-alt-f1 to f6 and ctrl-alt-backspace have no effect
[11:42] <Dr_willis> zeroXten,  yep. makes it easy to handle the laptop thats hooked to the tv playinb the videos... from the couch. :)
[11:42] <ubuntunew]> i can get it into the boot options, on this compaq laptop its f10
[11:42] <ubuntunew]> but it boots to grub not to the disc
[11:42] <zeroXten> hehe we used to use it at work, a dual screen linux machine and a windows one... very nice
[11:42] <philsf> Jadd: looks like a freeze to me
[11:42] <robg_> ubuntunew]: then you force a boot with your finger on F10.
[11:42] <Jadd> philsf: so what's a crash?
[11:42] <napalm> hi, i just installed 8.04 server edition
[11:43] <Baby_Shambl3s> hi how can I convert iso to bin in cli?
[11:43] <napalm> i installed openssh
[11:43] <philsf> can you ssh from another computer to make sure something is working?
[11:43] <ubuntunew]> i did that too and it booted to grub not the disc
[11:43] <nanoprobe> hello people, need help with wlan activation *driver installed, only don't know how to activate it*
[11:43] <napalm> and i can't connect remotely
[11:43] <philsf> jadd: can you ssh from another computer to make sure something is working?
[11:43] <Dr_willis> Baby_Shambl3s,   why do you need to?
[11:43] <anirudh0> Baby_Shambl3s, what do you want to do..i mean with the .bin
[11:43] <napalm> is there something i have to do to allow ssh connections now?
[11:43] <anirudh0> napalm, in general no..check whether its running
[11:43] <robg_> ubuntunew] the machine has a tendency to revert to harddisk boot. You must find a way to force a CD boot.
[11:44] <Jadd> philsf: I'd love to, but I doubt it
[11:44] <anirudh0> napalm, ps -A|grep sshd
[11:44] <jokoon> Hello, is there a mgnifier in ubuntu ?
[11:44] <Assid> hi
[11:44] <Jadd> philsf: unless I can convince my family to let me do it on their windows
[11:44] <Assid> i am trying to use grub-reboot to use an alternate kernel image during boot
[11:44] <ubuntunew]> anyway i am in there, the first boot item is cd and i actually have boot from ide drive turned off
[11:44] <philsf> Jadd: a crash (in X) would have more or less the same effect that ctrl-alt-backspace (except it's unintentional, and by murphy's law it would happen when you have the mostunsaved work open)
[11:44] <nanoprobe> jokoon: yes, it is
[11:44] <anirudh0> jokoon, yes..compiz has a zoom feature..and gnome has one too
[11:44] <Assid> however i cant seem to get any other kernel to boot except for the 1str one
[11:44] <Baby_Shambl3s> Dr_willis,anirudh0: cause iso is not accepted by the program, it was originally .nrg but there is no way to convert straight to bin so i did iso now i need bin
[11:44] <Jadd> philsf: :D
[11:44] <philsf> Jadd: you can use putty from a windows box
[11:45] <jokoon> anirudh0 nanoprobe where is the gnome one ?
[11:45] <anirudh0> Baby_Shambl3s, renaming does'nt work?
[11:45] <Jadd> philsf: it might not be a problem anymore, I just finished downloading all the updates from proposed, so we'll see
[11:45] <RomanK> Hi
[11:45] <ubuntunew]> robq_ may i msg you?
[11:45] <Baby_Shambl3s> anirudh0, nope tried that it didnt work :'(
[11:45] <anirudh0> jokoon, iirc you have to install it..forgot package name
[11:45] <RomanK> i want to get the sound of a video (avi) file as seperat file, is there a tool you can suggest to perform this action?
[11:45] <robg_> ubuntunew] go right ahead.
[11:45] <Jadd> philsf: I'm enabling wireless now, if I disconnect, then the system has frozen!
[11:45] <philsf> Jadd: you should look in the logs to see if there's information on what happened
[11:46] <anirudh0> Baby_Shambl3s, iso is a movie or game?
[11:46] <Dr_willis> Baby_Shambl3s,  what program is this? as far as i have seen you can just rename the .iso to .bin and the formats are the same in many cases.  if this is a Copy Protected Game cd. You proberly lost any specail info on the image when you did the conversion to iso.
[11:46] <hchufeng> I have a problem ,I download a chm document ,but I can't read it evan I installed the chmsee which can't run .The chm reader for firefox can't support my firefox3.0 .Does anyone who can help me ?
[11:46] <nvc> anirudh0; this is napalm on a dekstop pc, what was the command you suggested using to check my openssh?
[11:47] <Baby_Shambl3s> Dr_willis: hmmm really actualy it is a bunch of files from a lonmg time ago, exactly what i myself aint even sure, well willl try again with this old cd
[11:47] <nvc> alright so i'll ask again
[11:47] <Zbradsta> Hi guys can i have a hand with running ".packages"
[11:47] <anirudh0> nvc, ps -A|grep sshd
[11:48] <anirudh0> hchufeng, xchm or gnochm
[11:48] <Dr_willis> Baby_Shambl3s,  just mount the thing and copy the files over ?
[11:48] <Cipry007> hey...i installd java sun ,uninstalld openjdk ... installd drivers with envy all those and still cant change the resolution my nvidia driver is in use
[11:48] <nvc> anirudh0; "4898 ? 00:00:00 sshd"
[11:48] <Zbradsta> can someone help me with running a ".package. that i downloaded
[11:48] <Dr_willis> Zbradsta,  'autopackage' files? :) its proberly best to avoide them
[11:49] <Zbradsta> its a game called vdrift that i want to play
[11:49] <anirudh0> nvc, therefore the server is running..what error do you get when trying to ssh to it?
[11:49] <Zbradsta> but its in a auto package
[11:49] <Baby_Shambl3s> Dr_willis: oh didnt think of that
[11:49] <nvc> 'connection refused'
[11:49] <hchufeng> anirudh0 thank you very much but do it can support chinese?
[11:49] <Dr_willis> Zbradsta,  i http://autopackage.org/   i think ias the info ya need.. looking there now
[11:49] <Zbradsta> thank you
[11:50] <anirudh0> hchufeng, gnochm is a gnome project..and gnome is very particular about good localisations..so my guess is yes
[11:50] <podr0znik> robg_: Works :)
[11:50] <Dr_willis> Zbradsta,  theres no guarentees with ubuntu and autopackages.. good luck.
[11:51] <Zbradsta> yea its no help to me
[11:51] <Dr_willis> Zbradsta,  you sure its not in the ubuntu repos? you have enabled all the repos?
[11:51] <KalEl> how can i send the commands ^c or ^q to an application running in screen?
[11:51] <Zbradsta> repos?
[11:52] <munky> hi. when i try to connect to vpn relakks i get "vpn connection failed"
[11:52] <Dr_willis> Zbradsta,  ubuntu uses repositories. for the software..  there are unoffical ones not enabled by default.
[11:52] <n3urogod> KalEl, ctrl-a-c and ctrl-a-q?
[11:52] <anirudh0> nvc, there are many ways to solve this..but a clean reinstall is easiest
[11:52] <Dr_willis> Zbradsta,  i suggest checking them out befor using autopackages
[11:52] <nvc> reinstall? of what?
[11:52] <Zbradsta> ok
[11:52] <nvc> i just only installed the OS and openssh
[11:52] <anirudh0> nvc, first apt-get --purge remove openssh-server..then reinstalled it
[11:53] <anirudh0> wait..you mean you never installed the server?
[11:53] <Zbradsta> Dr_willis, this is the site i got the file off http://vdrift.net/
[11:53] <robg_> Zbradsta: go to www.medibuntu.org and follow site instructions.
[11:53] <nvc> no no, i did
[11:53] <KalEl> n3urogod, thanks...
[11:53] <anirudh0> nvc, "no no" is ambiguous :)
[11:53] <nvc> i installed 8.04 server just like 20mins ago and then i installed openssh via the apt-get command
[11:53] <nvc> and then everything seemed correct
[11:53] <nvc> could it possibly be my router?
[11:53] <philsf> !ubottuwhereareyou?
[11:53] <anirudh0> nvc, purge and reinstall the openssh-server anyway
[11:53] <Dr_willis> Zbradsta,  windows 'thinking' is downloading from a web site to install..  "linux" thinking is to use the Package manager tool for your Linux Disrto to install things. :)
[11:54] <nvc> ok
[11:54] <anirudh0> philsf, a while ago ops said ubottu was being overhauled
[11:54] <Zbradsta> i have ubuntu 8.04 btw
[11:54] <philsf> anirudh0: oh
[11:54] <nvc> removed
[11:54] <bouma> ive added sun-java6-bin and the sun java6 browser plugin, but my firefox still wont run load java applets, i just get a grey rectangle and the status bar says starting applet, then applet loaded., then Start: applet not initialized.
[11:54] <nvc> reinstalling now
[11:55] <liassist> hello, how do i get traning for ubuntu
[11:55] <anirudh0> bouma, problem with applet..not with java
[11:55] <liassist> iam only 14-years old
[11:55] <anirudh0> liassist, that is a good thing :)
[11:55] <Dr_willis> Zbradsta,   feisty (games): Data files for vdrift, a racing simulation [universe]  - the game seems to be in the Universe Repository.
[11:55] <houhou> is there any known problem with the ati radeon x800 xt pcie graphics on ubuntu 8.04? or driver/kernel faults of any kind?
[11:55] <pawan> hi
[11:55] <bouma> anirudh0: could be but its the http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml test for java, also other applets dont work like gokgs.com
[11:55] <Rosen> Can someone give me a guided tour for installing quake3 ? :) I've downloaded linuxq3apoint-1.32bx86.run but when I try to use sudo sh it just says sh: Can't open linuxq3apoint-1.32bx86.run
[11:55] <philsf> liassist: I wish I was too
[11:55] <liassist> where do i get the tarning in India Delhi
[11:56] <pawan> using property drivers for geforce 5200
[11:56] <anirudh0> liassist, learn to use google..that will help you with anything and everything..o'reilly books are good as well
[11:56] <norbi> Hello, I downloaded QuakeWars and am trying to play it full screen.  I have a dual display set-up and the game shows up in the middle of the two screens.  I have tried World of Warcraft and that one is ok.  Other applications such as firefox when maximized only maximize on one of the screens.  Is there anything I can do about this?
[11:56] <KalEl> "^a c" opens a new window in screen... how do i send ^c?
[11:56] <pawan> cant use high reolutions
[11:56] <philsf> liassist: there are tons of documentation and guides in the web
[11:56] <JThunders> ^ is control.
[11:56] <JThunders> ^c is Control-C
[11:56] <anirudh0> liassist, dont go for formal training..unless you want to do it as part of your job description
[11:56] <nvc> anirudh0; re-installed
[11:56] <nvc> now what?
[11:56] <bouma> could anyone help me get sun-java6-bin working in firefox
[11:57] <liassist> Books! ive done CCNA Fedora and read tons of other books i want formal traning
[11:57] <Dr_willis> KalEl,  i bet the screen faq mentions it.. I just dont rember how to tell you..
[11:57] <anirudh0> liassist, join ubuntu-in and indlinux in freenode...you will get more specific help there
[11:57] <anirudh0> nvc, still failing?
[11:57] <nvc> anirudh0; yep
[11:58] <bouma> could anyone please help me get java working in firefox :)
[11:58] <Jadd76> philsf: still here? It froze of course!
[11:58] <bouma> ive followed the java community docs
[11:58] <anirudh0> nvc, then you will have to go the long and hard way..unfortunately, i have to leave now..but someone else will surely help :)
[11:58] <houhou> anyone having any ideas about why i cant get my at x800xt to work on hardy? only "freeze" screen at startup
[11:58] <liassist> there is no one on those channels
[11:58] <Jadd76> philsf: know where I should look in the logs?
[11:58] <jrib> bouma: have you installed sun-java6-plugin?
[11:59] <nvc> anirudh0; i logged in via the LAN IP address as opposed to my isp address
[11:59] <liassist> will it be useful and in budget to get linux traning at this age
[11:59] <nvc> and now it's working fine
[11:59] <nvc> so it's my router
[11:59] <bouma> jrib, yes ive done that and the browser plugin, and selected the sun out of two alternatives
[11:59] <anirudh0> liassist, what do you mean
[11:59] <alyx_vance> anybody knows how to install microtek 3880?
[11:59] <liassist> iam 14 will it be useful
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[12:00] <Dr_willis> wake up alyx_vance  your head is on the keyboard.
[12:00] <jrib> bouma: what's the output of: apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin gcjwebplugin
[12:00] <jrib> alyx_vance: stop
[12:00] <jrib> !pastebin > bouma (read the private message from ubottu)
[12:00] <bouma> jrib: where would you like me to post it, basically  Installed: 6-06-0ubuntu1
[12:00] <philsf> Jadd76: try /var/log messages kern.log syslog
[12:01] <koheleth> meet my dog www.holyfear.net/images/dodi_mobile.jpg
[12:01] <alyx_vance> huhuhu
[12:01] <jrib> !ot | koheleth
[12:01] <alyx_vance> i just woke up
[12:01] <alyx_vance> heheh
[12:01] <liassist> anirudh0, how much will it cost (remeber iam not self supported)
[12:01] <bouma> jrib: any suggestions ?
[12:01] <jrib> bouma: I need the full output on pastebin
[12:01] <alyx_vance> kdfkjdfjdkjfkdjfkjadjfjdfkldjfkjdkfjkjdfkjdfkasjdf;ldjksf;kljadf;kldjffflsd;fjjjj;dlasfjad;slfjd;lafj;asdlfjjjad;sfjl;lsdfjj;sdlafjlsdfj;asldfj;lsdfj;lsdajf;sladfjl;dsfjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj;alfjkladsjfjasdfkjl
[12:01] <derek_barnes> does any1 know how to enable java runtime for firefox?
[12:01] <Baby_Shambl3s> alyx_vance: seriously stop!
[12:02] <koheleth> opps, wrong channel :) sorry
[12:02] <Jadd76> philsf: right, got them, I have no idea how to read this stuff though
[12:02] <jrib> derek_barnes: install sun-java6-plugin
[12:02] <liassist> alyx_vance: please dont spam or youll be banned
[12:02] <Baby_Shambl3s> liassist: too late for that
[12:02] <philsf> Jadd76: paste the relevant information in the bug report
[12:02] <sidelil> excuse me do you know how could i use the multimedia keys on my keyboard with amarok on ubuntu (they are already pefectly working with gnome applications) thanks
[12:03] <bouma> jrib: http://pastebin.org/39949, thanks btw
[12:03] <Carbonflux> took longer then normal to ban him heh, late at night many places :)
[12:03] <philsf> sidelil: install gnome-multimedia-keys from amarokscripts
[12:03] <hischild> greetings.
[12:03] <Jadd76> philsf: which bit is relevant? I've been fiddling quite a lot with turning wireless on and off today, so I don't know what to copy
[12:03] <liassist> i almost forgot
[12:04] <jrib> bouma: did you close all instances of firefox and then visit: www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp ?
[12:04] <sidelil> philsf, perfect, thanks a lot
[12:04] <philsf> Jadd76: you'll see the timestamps in the log, pick what seems relevant up to the moment where it froze
[12:04] <liassist> jrib, are you a staffer? how did you get ops?
[12:04] <Jadd76> philsf: OK, I'll do this again with a watch on my wrist
[12:04] <jrib> liassist: I'm an op in this channel
[12:04] <Baby_Shambl3s> is the command sudo dpkg -i the install comamnd?
[12:04] <mohi> hi :)
[12:04] <Jadd76> Thanx
[12:05] <liassist> how do i apply?
[12:05] <philsf> Jadd76: the log is already there, you don't have to wait for it to freeze again
[12:05] <jrib> Baby_Shambl3s: yes, but you should stick to ubuntu repositories.  Installing random debs may break your system
[12:05] <Baby_Shambl3s> yah nvm just found it
[12:05] <Seeker`> liassist: you don't, you get chosen
[12:05] <liassist> i know almost all commands in IRC
[12:05] <jrib> !apt > Baby_Shambl3s (read the private message from ubottu)
[12:05] <jrib> liassist: you're invited :)
[12:05] <Baby_Shambl3s> jrib: nah its for virtualbox so not random but thanx for the advise
[12:05] <Seeker`> liassist: this i offtopic really, you should talk about this sort of stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:05] <bouma> jrib: yes, ive quit the browser and used that http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml?ff3 page several times
[12:05] <jrib> Baby_Shambl3s: virtual box is in the repositories
[12:06] <bouma> jrib: i get start: applet not initialized.
[12:06] <Baby_Shambl3s> jrib: the latest version?
[12:06] <jrib> Baby_Shambl3s: ah, maybe not.  The virtual box debs are usually safe though
[12:07] <poopuser> guyz how do i link two existing folders 2gether?
[12:07] <jrib> Baby_Shambl3s: in about:config do you have a java plugin being loaded?
[12:07] <Baby_Shambl3s> jrib: np havent had any problems with vb debs but yeah probably safe
[12:07] <matija> hello
[12:08] <mohi> does ubuntu hardy supports MSCHAPv2 by default
[12:09] <jrib> bouma: in about:config do you have a java plugin being loaded?
[12:09] <jrib> Baby_Shambl3s: sorry, that was for bouma
[12:09] <Baby_Shambl3s> jrib: rofl just tried installing deb from cli and got dependecy problems etc, this is trully a first
[12:09] <matija> I need help with connecting to windows computers on a network in my office. I cant connect to most of them and ones that need user/pass say its wrong user/pass while its a working one from windows machine
[12:09] <hchufeng> the gnochm can't support chinese ,who can help me
[12:09] <Baby_Shambl3s> jrib: guess im going repo than
[12:10] <jrib> Baby_Shambl3s: double click on it instead of using dpkg.  dpkg won't resolve dependencies
[12:10] <bouma> jrib: i do about:config, then filter by java, java.java_plugin_library_name;javaplugin_oji
[12:10] <bouma> jrib: there are several items, which should i look for in particular
[12:11] <Baby_Shambl3s> jrib: oh didnt know, how come?
[12:11] <jrib> bouma: not sure, I'm graced with the lack of any plugin from sun for java on amd64.  See if it is working with firefox2
[12:11] <jrib> Baby_Shambl3s: dpkg never did.  But the gui interface (gdebi) will
[12:11] <bouma> jrib: does firefox2 come with ubuntu ?
[12:11] <Paradoxx> Does mysql come installed on ubuntu by default?
[12:11] <poopuser> GUYZ HOW DO I LINK 2 EXISTING FOLDERS 2GETHER?
[12:11] <jrib> bouma: oh right, maybe not by default.  hmmm
[12:11] <jrib> poopuser: please don't use caps like that
[12:12] <Baby_Shambl3s> jrib: oh never heard of gdebi is it insatlled by default
[12:12] <jrib> poopuser: be more specific as to what you want to do
[12:12] <sidelil> is it possibile to add in gnome more keyboard shortcuts than the ones that are in gnome-keybinding-properties?
[12:12] <jrib> Baby_Shambl3s: not sure (check)
[12:12] <Baby_Shambl3s> jrib: will do so
[12:12] <jrib> sidelil: you can create custom ones using gconf-editor directly or ccsm
[12:12] <Paradoxx> !lamp
[12:12] <Paradoxx> !mysql
[12:12] <Paradoxx> lamp!
[12:13] <poopuser> jrib: i want to link my home directory to directory on different partition
[12:13] <jrib> Paradoxx: the bot is mia right now, search for "lamp" on help.ubuntu.com/community
[12:13] <hischild> Paradoxx: what are you trying? Please don't randomly try bot commands.
[12:13] <kiki_> hello all :)
[12:13] <Paradoxx> jrib: Thanks mate
[12:13] <jrib> poopuser: do you just want your /home to point to that other partition?
[12:13] <kiki_> i will have some question after ...
[12:13] <poopuser> jrib:yes
[12:14] <Paradoxx> hischild: I was try to get the wiki link for mysql, and that is the keyword
[12:14] <sidelil> jrib, how can i do it with ccsm?
[12:15] <hchufeng> the gnochm can't support chinese ,who can help me
[12:15] <Roughneck_cowboy> hello all, is there someone to help a newb ? I've problem with Nvidia. I was helped and my card worked fine since I restart then I'm on default 800x600 instead of 1680x1050 there is something to do with the nvidia-conf of Xorg....please HELP
[12:15] <emma> Paradoxx: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative  but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with  setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:15] <jrib> sidelil: general options -> commands -> key bindings
[12:15] <programmer01> hello
[12:15] <Baby_Shambl3s> jrib: if im seeing it right gdebi si installed by default ok will be using that from now thanx
[12:15] <philsf> hchufeng: try #ubuntu-cn
[12:15] <hchufeng> philsf thank you
[12:16] <poopuser> so mr  jrib do u have solution 4 me?(i am quite in a rush)
[12:16] <jrib> poopuser: one sec, let me get you a doc that explains it
[12:16] <programmer01> i have a problem with apache2.2.8 and php5 , after installing php5 with synaptic manager apache don't recognize it ? do you know why, or can you help me out
[12:16] <poopuser> ok thx
[12:16] <bouma> jrib: is there a way to say check all the packages on the computer so i might discover why java isnt wroking
[12:17] <sidelil> jrib, ok thanks a lot
[12:17] <Roughneck_cowboy> is there someone to help me ?
[12:17] <hischild> programmer01: what package did you install for php5?
[12:17] <Baby_Shambl3s> is there a way to istall vbox without have to log out or restart?
[12:17] <programmer01> wait
[12:17] <kiki_> ubuntu 8.04 don't contains graphic card ATI radeon 9000 pro driver, is it normal ?
[12:17] <hischild> Baby_Shambl3s: no. You have to logout and back in for your user to be part of the vboxusers group.
[12:17] <hischild> Roughneck_cowboy: if you explaint he problem, most likely yes.
[12:17] <programmer01> php5 and php5-common
[12:17] <programmer01> hischild:
[12:18] <programmer01> php5 and php5-common
[12:18] <Baby_Shambl3s> hischild: that is really annoying ahhhhhh will do it later than
[12:18] <jussi01> !test
[12:18] <hischild> jussi01: the bot is MIA.
[12:18] <bouma> jrib: btw are the deb files cached.. if i remove and then reinstall packages will they be downloaded again ?
[12:18] <pawan> hi
[12:18] <sidelil> jrib, sorry if i bother you, can you tell me how can i do it also in gconf-edit? Thank you very much...
[12:18] <pawan> how to disable properity drivers for nvidia 5200
[12:18] <emma> bouma: unless you remove --purge all the config file remain in case you reinstall.
[12:19] <Radit> what program do i use to create latex files in ubuntu 8.04?
[12:19] <hischild> programmer01: let me check which ones i have installed for it ...
[12:19] <jrib> poopuser: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome since you already have a partition created you can skip the part where you create a new one (ie read closely).  Essentially, you just need to modify your fstab
[12:19] <jrib> poopuser: ask if you aren't sure about something
[12:19] <poopuser> thank u so much kind sir  ; *
[12:19] <hischild> programmer01: take a look at libapache2-mod-php5 please. (Don't blindly install, look first.
[12:19] <pawan> how to use envy for nvidia 5200
[12:19] <Erik1_> what is this popularity-conest package ? if i try to remove it with apt-get, it wants to removve ubuntu-standard as well...
[12:20] <programmer01> or the better question is : What is the module that connects PHP5 with Apache2.2 ???
[12:20] <hischild> programmer01: did you read my answer? If you have  apache2-mpm-prefork you can use that package i gave you.
[12:20] <jrib> poopuser: please check your private messages
[12:20] <emma> hischild programmer01 --- libapache2-mod-php5 (source: php5): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2 module). In  component main, is optional. Version 5.2.4-2ubuntu5 (hardy), package size 2482 kB, installed size 5608 kB
[12:20] <jussi01> !test
[12:20] <nubotu> Failed
[12:20] <hischild> jrib: what's up with emma?
[12:21] <ompaul> Erik1_, you can participate or not but the package is installed by default it checks how "popular" packages are - by use and so forth it helps make the distro better
[12:21] <emma> hischild: huh?
[12:21] <bouma> jrib: so there anything else i can do to get java to wrok? like install gcjwebplugin or something ?
[12:21] <hischild> emma: oh you appeared to be a bot with your responses.
[12:21] <jrib> bouma: well you can install that to see if it works I guess, but it doesn't work as well as sun's plugin
[12:21] <Erik1_> ompaul: and why would it want to remove ubuntu-standard then ?
[12:21] <emma> hischild: nope. I was trying to be helpful with the package information.
[12:22] <Carbonflux> emma is not a bot heh
[12:22] <ompaul> Erik1_, cos it is part of the meta package -standard
[12:22] <ben_underscore> hischild: great pick up line
[12:22] <programmer01> emma: i have this module - libapache2-mod-php5 installed ?
[12:22] <Erik1_> hm
[12:22] <Baby_Shambl3s> lol is all i can say at this point... poor emma
[12:22] <DrHalan> hey im running hardy with compiz enabled. when i put rhythmbox to fullscreen the windows sometimes flashes.
[12:22] <philsf> lol
[12:22] <hischild> emma: you are =). Just didn't expect it from a human, as you didn't add anything that made you stand out from a bot there. My bad *apologizes*
[12:22]  * emma smiles
[12:22] <Carbonflux> ya it is your bad heh, that was really rude
[12:23] <ompaul> Erik1_, meta packages contain many other "real packages" they are convenient ways of getting an amount of functionality in one package
[12:23] <hischild> ben_underscore: don't need a pickup line, got a gf already.
[12:23] <Erik1_> ok
[12:23] <ompaul> Erik1_, removing one of them will take out its meta package
[12:24] <Erik1_> ompaul: any cmdl options to prevent that ?
[12:25] <hischild> Erik1_: no, it's required for the meta package to be removed once you remove an underlying package. If a meta package gets updated it'd reinstall that package you want to remove.
[12:25] <philsf> hischild: not true
[12:25] <Erik1_> ok
[12:25] <hischild> philsf: how so?
[12:26] <ompaul> Erik1_, that did not parse - you remove a package and the meta package is no longer complete, therefore it is no longer installed so only the only impact is you take out the named meta package and the 1 actual package that is all nothing to get upset with - you can appear to remove ubuntu-desktop but all other parts remain
[12:26] <philsf> hischild: a meta package is just an empty package with dependencies on other pkgs. It doesn't "have" packages
[12:26] <Erik1_> hischild: hm.. is it an underlying or an overlying package, theis contest thing ?
[12:26] <philsf> hischild: removing a dependency has the same effect on any kind of package
[12:26] <programmer01> :quit
[12:26] <DrHalan> nobody can help me iwth the fullscreen thing?
[12:26] <hischild> philsf: so what i said was true.
[12:27] <philsf> hischild: not because of what you said
[12:27] <philsf> Erik1_: popcon doesn't do anything by default, and doesn't take much space, you can safely ignore it
[12:28] <Erik1_> ok
[12:28] <Roughneck_cowboy> http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/source-directe-563.html  My problem is here I can translate explanation....anyone to help me ?
[12:28] <hischild> philsf: it is true. Look at the ubuntu-desktop package. It _has_ a version number. You can remove a single package and not remove what it's a dependency for, but when the meta package gets updated apt reinstalls the package.
[12:32] <mohi> does ubuntu hardy supports MSCHAPv2 authentication by default
[12:32] <philsf> hischild: sorry, I mis-directed my correction
[12:32] <philsf> hischild: it should have gone to ompaul
[12:33] <philsf> hischild: you are correct, indeed
[12:33] <Error323> anyone here that can help me with a kernel compilation problem?
[12:33] <hischild> philsf: np. I jumped in when ompaul seemed to be afk.
[12:33] <hischild> Error323: what seem to be the problem?
[12:33] <Baby_Shambl3s> if i log out will my iso be umounted?
[12:33] <Error323> Well hischild I used this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[12:34] <hischild> Baby_Shambl3s: what iso mounted where? If it's in a directory on your physical system, then you'll be fine.
[12:34] <Error323> and compiled / installed the new custom kernel
[12:34] <Error323> however
[12:34] <ompaul> the dep is the package "member" of the meta package when the member goes it takes the meta with it
[12:34] <Error323> when loading it, it goes into some real basic debian terminal
[12:34] <hischild> Error323: please avoid using the enter after every few words.
[12:34] <ompaul> however not having a full list of metas can cause grief at upgrade time
[12:35] <hischild> Error323: you most likely forgot to add the option which makes the kernel unable to mount your root filesystem (aka the partition / )
[12:35] <numpsz3> Hello! How can i list the network devices? To get a list for ex.: "eth0 eth1 "
[12:35] <hischild> numpsz3: sudo ifconfig -a
[12:35] <philsf> ompaul: which is why they are installed automatically by the upgrade process
[12:35] <Baby_Shambl3s> hischild, its mounted in /media/iso im guessing that would be umounted as it is accessed by fstab
[12:35] <greysky> lspci numpsz3
[12:35] <soundray> numpsz3: ifconfig
[12:36] <greysky> and ifconfig
[12:36] <hischild> Baby_Shambl3s: if you logout (not restart) then it'll stay mounted.
[12:36] <Baby_Shambl3s> hischild, oh ok thats nice to know
[12:36] <Error323> hischild, where can i find this option? I first copied a config of my latest generic working kernel
[12:37] <hischild> Error323: did you disable some options? May i ask what the reason is for compiling a custom kernel?
[12:38] <numpsz3> i want only a simple list
[12:38] <numpsz3> like "eth0 eth1..."
[12:38] <prolefeed> hi, i seem to have these fonts with names like "shado" and "tarablus" that are apparently arabic, they all display as the same english font with slight differences in line padding, etc.  does anyone know what happened here?
[12:38] <greysky> numpsz3 ifconfig -a |grep eth
[12:39] <greysky> it still has other information in there but what stops you from formating the data?
[12:39] <Error323> hischild, several reasons: 1) learning, 2) optimization. I enabled some option regarding my processor family and unchecked kernel debugging, block layer, generic x86 support
[12:39] <soundray> numpsz3: ifconfig -a | cut -d ' ' -f 1 | tr -s '\n' ' '
[12:39] <numpsz3> not all devices are started with "eth"
[12:39] <numpsz3> soudtray: thank you!
[12:39] <numpsz3> +n
[12:39] <soundray> -t
[12:39] <hischild> Error323: that might be one of the things that might cause it to die. Disable splash and quiet on the grub command line, and see where it goes wrong. Then reenable that option and try again.
[12:40] <numpsz3> :)
[12:40] <ottoshmidt>  is there a separate IRC for Rhythmbox?
[12:41] <[cE_eXeMpHe_Fz_c> ce_jelex
[12:41] <Error323> ok thx hischild I'll first copy my current generic config, then i'll compile and install to see if it's truely some options.
[12:41] <hischild> Error323: smart choice. And if time permits, do it one option at a time.
[12:42] <Error323> rgr hischild, thx for ur help.
[12:42] <emma> ottoshmidt: The official RhythmBox support channel is on #rhythmbox  on irc.gimp.net
[12:42] <[cE_eXeMpHe_Fz_c> ce___baik
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[12:43] <hischild> hi
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> how can i get my Ubuntu version number in terminal please?
[12:43] <ottoshmidt> emma, I'n in there
[12:43] <ottoshmidt> could u help me
[12:44] <ompaul> ActionParsnip, lsb_release -a
[12:44] <emma> ottoshmidt:  you went to #rhythmbox here on Freenode (as did I, in search of a channel for you, which is why I know you are in there)
[12:44] <emma> ottoshmidt: the rhythmbox channel is not on Freenode, it is on irc.gimp.net
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> cheers dude
[12:44] <ottoshmidt> I can't understand the difference
[12:45] <hischild> ottoshmidt: it's on a different server.
[12:45] <emma> ottoshmidt: which chat client are you using?
[12:45] <ottoshmidt> XCHAT 2.8.4
[12:45] <darko> hi
[12:46] <hischild> hi
[12:46] <ottoshmidt> emma, I'm not having probs with chat client
[12:46] <ottoshmidt> it's Rhythmbox
[12:46] <EJ> can i ask something general - does xchat support multiple server log-ins like konversation?
[12:47] <Dr_willis> ej yes it does
[12:47] <dave12> I have problems when I make rsync between /home pc1 and /home pc2
[12:47] <emma> ottoshmidt: in Xchat click on Xchat > Network List > Highlight GimpNet and click connect. Then you will be on the network where you can type /join #rhythmbox in order to get to their official channel.
[12:47] <dave12> in pc2 firefox and other programs dont open
[12:47] <EJ> Dr_willis : alright. thanks =) i'll play around with it
[12:48] <ottoshmidt> emma,  ok thanks
[12:48] <emma> ottoshmidt: As a first step you might want to ask the question here though to see if anyone happens to know.
[12:48] <emma> ottoshmidt: you're welcome. :)
[12:50] <ottoshmidt> emma, but Globally thinking are you the same team?
[12:51] <ottoshmidt> emma, there is a dead silence on GIMPNet
[12:51] <ottoshmidt> lol
[12:52] <Error323> I'd like to perform a screen session at auto start. Tried using crontab and inserted a line '@reboot screen -S rtorrent rtorrent', but it seemed to fail, without even a msg in dmesg (other @reboot commands in crontab do work). Has anyone got a suggestion on howto fix/workaround this?
[12:52] <Dr_willis> Error323,  spawn it from rc.local  as a proper user. with  use of the su command and its options.
[12:53] <philsf> where is pulseaudio started from?
[12:53] <Error323> Dr_willis, can you give a bit more information on howto do that? where can I find rc.local
[12:53] <Dr_willis> Error323,  ive never seen that used in crontab befor.. :)  @reboot
[12:53] <Error323> Heh :) well it works nice
[12:53] <Dr_willis> Error323,  its in /etc/
[12:54] <koshari> philsf pulse adio should be started with the kernel
[12:54] <ompaul> ottoshmidt, what exactly is your rhythmbox question
[12:54] <philsf> koshari: isn't it userspace?
[12:55] <Error323> Dr_willis, how can i spawn it as a proper user in the rc.local file?
[12:56] <ovidiu> I have a 7 button mouse. I configured it from /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but when I press the side buttons, it reacts like a horizontal scroll (the function of side buttons are back - forward)
[12:56] <Dr_willis> Error323,  with theuse of the 'su' command.  unless you want it running as root.
[12:56] <Dr_willis> Error323,  that may be why it was having problems befor.?
[12:56] <ovidiu> what can I do to make the side-buttons to work?
[12:57] <Dr_willis> ovidiu,  let me get you a url... :)
[12:57] <CodddEr> there is any ubuntu dis or any linux dist at all that can be ran as live cd and , that allow doing changes ( cut \ delete \ copy \ create ... files and folders ) on NTFS driver ? kind of rescue cd , if there is with GUI (kde or GNOME or XFCE ) it prefered ?
[12:58] <Dr_willis> ovidiu,  i use btnx --> http://www.ollisalonen.com/btnx/ it lets you do a lot of neat tricks with the extra buttons.
[12:58] <robg_> CodddEr: Gparte LiveCD can edit NTFS partitions on a harddisk.
[12:58] <ovidiu> I tried that program
[12:58] <ovidiu> but it don't works with my mouse
[12:58] <jrib> CodddEr: the rugular ubuntu desktop cd will let you do that
[12:58] <Dr_willis> ovidiu,  thers other ways to get it going.. i guess.. but i havent messed with them.
[12:58] <CodddEr> jrib , it doesnt
[12:58] <ifireball> CodddEr: you can try "system rescue CD"
[12:59] <ovidiu> some time ago I made that buttons to work...
[12:59] <jrib> CodddEr: sure it does, just make sure the ntfs drive is mounted and run gksudo nautilus
[12:59] <ovidiu> but I don't know how :))
[12:59] <ovidiu> *I don't remember
[12:59] <Error323> Dr_willis, could be, so this will work in rc.local ?: "su - user screen -S rtorrent rtorrent"
[12:59] <zengen> How can I cancel an aptitude install?  I went to install grisbi and stopped it when I saw it was installing 300mb of language files.  Now it keeps trying to install everything when I run apt.
[12:59] <Dr_willis> ovidiu,  thats weird.   check their forums?  You may need to some how remap the buttons.     w
[12:59] <ifireball> CodddEr: most live-CD disrtos include ntf3g to allow editing NTFS file systems
[12:59] <Dr_willis> Error323,  try it and see i guess.   you checked the su man pages? :)
[13:00] <Dr_willis> Error323,  your users name is screen?
[13:00] <Error323> Dr_willis, yes i did, but using this command requires a password prompt it seems could find a way around it in the man pages
[13:00] <sriramoman> how to use genesis?
[13:00] <Dr_willis> Error323,  from the rc.local it gets ran as root.
[13:01] <Error323> Dr_willis, no it's fhuizing so the command will be: "su - fhuizing screen -S rtorrent rtorrent"
[13:01] <Dr_willis> Error323,   you might want toreread the man pages.. i think you need the -C option in there somewhere.
[13:01] <Error323> Dr_willis, and that implies no pw prompt?
[13:01] <Error323> ah ok
[13:02] <Dr_willis> Error323,  the rc.localis ran by root anyway. he can su to a user with out needing a password   I think
[13:02] <Greeko13> HAHAHA
[13:02] <Greeko13> u banned me permenent from here
[13:02] <Greeko13> what I can still join this chat
[13:02] <Greeko13> noobs
[13:02] <Greeko13> You can never bann me
[13:03] <CodddEr> system rescue cd include also gparted doesnt it ?
[13:03] <Error323> Dr_willis, ur right
[13:03] <ifireball> CodddEr: yes, AFAIK
[13:03] <Negromancer> @dvd
[13:04] <Negromancer> !dvd
[13:04] <nubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[13:05] <computer> is there a program like adobe flash for ubuntu? like not the player.. the authoring program
[13:06] <photosinensis> computer: not that's really recent.
[13:06] <guillaume__> ?
[13:06] <Ardorin> Is there a bittorrent client that runs as a deamon and can be controlled with the http protocol?
[13:06] <photosinensis> What are you trying to do, computer?
[13:07] <computer> nothing important, i've got 2 days to kill while im in this drug study, all i've got is my ubuntu laptop, thought i'd kill some time making some little flash game or something
[13:07] <maek0> Ardorin, use transmission with webGUI
[13:07] <Dr_willis> Ardorin,  thers several with a http interface/plugin you could  sort of do that. I havent seen any that run as a deamon
[13:08] <thehurley> hello, I'm having trouble getting a wireless card working - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=556714 - anyone here have advice?
[13:08] <Jadd> Hey philsf, believe or not, there's nothing in the logs for the time of the freeze
[13:09] <nice_gurl> hello
[13:09] <photosinensis> thehurley: while the link loads, could I get details?
[13:09] <KOS> thehurley 	Can it be said that the specific point?
[13:10] <thehurley> sure, i have a zyxel m102 wireless card, running ubuntu 8.04, i installed ndiswrapper and tried to install using the guide in that link.  the cards lights don't come on
[13:10] <computer> so.. is there a really easy way to make a game in ubuntu? i like flash because i dont have to do with any graphics code, i just draw the thing and then write code to control it
[13:11] <Ardorin> maek0, any chance I can make that run withouth an X GUI?
[13:11] <photosinensis> computer: Well, the first thing that comes to mind is PyGame, but that's simply because I've spent far too long with Python.
[13:11] <anirudh0> computer, there are a lot of libs and apps to help you do that..specially in python
[13:11] <photosinensis> Unfortunately, I've never used the libraries it provides.
[13:11] <anirudh0> computer, glade takes care of the gui stuff
[13:12] <computer> thank you much guys, i'll try it out real quick
[13:12] <photosinensis> That said, there's surely someone in the Ubuntu community that knows something about PyGame, as there are a lot of Python fans amongst the crowd.
[13:12] <maek0> Ardorin, you could also try http://www.torrentflux.com/
[13:12] <anirudh0> computer, search synaptic for games library..there should be more than a few hits..but google for python game library..i am sure there are atleast 2 of those
[13:12] <oje> When I launch something from the terminal (like audacious or wine), is it possible to make it now show up in the terminal, so i can execute other commands?
[13:13] <anirudh0> beaten to the answer :)
[13:13] <mohkohn> I am running an imac with Ubuntu Hardy and I want to do this: http://www.macinstruct.com/node/118
[13:13] <anirudh0> oje, wine &..or audacious&
[13:13] <[cE_eXeMpHe_Fz_c> ce_nakal
[13:14] <mohkohn> I have firestarter installed. the post at the bottom is my ifconfig and iwconfig
[13:14] <mohkohn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766291
[13:14] <mohkohn> Based on the information above what am I doing wrong in internet sharing?
[13:16] <oje> anirudh0: thanks, that worked. allthough, when i want to insert parameters (like http://coolradio.com:8000/listen.pls) it works when i use "audacious& http://coolradio.com:8000/listen.pls", but not when i use "http://coolradio.com:8000/listen.pls"
[13:16] <oje> It says it cant find the file.
[13:17] <oje> Sorry, wait.. It works when i use "audacious http://coolradio.com:8000/listen.pls", but now when i use "audacious& http://coolradio.com:8000/listen.pls"
[13:17] <oje> not*
[13:18] <anirudh0> oje, audacious <parameters>&
[13:19] <Leefmc> Question: How does one go about updating firefox beta 5 to RC1? Firefox's "check for updates" isn't working, and i downloaded FF3RC1 but im having issues even installing it... its just, weird.
[13:21] <albech> anyone here running Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG on 8.04?
[13:21] <Dr_willis> Leefmc,  you dont let firefox update itself under linux. :) you let the package manager handle it.
[13:21] <ubuntu> hi
[13:21] <Dr_willis> !info firefox
[13:21] <albech> its working on 7.10, but not on 8.04.. its the hurdle for finally upgrading to 8.04
[13:21] <Dr_willis> is the bot gone again? :(
[13:21] <jpds> Dr_willis: yeah
[13:22] <Dr_willis> what is the latest firefox in the repos anyway?  ive not updated in ages
[13:22] <Leefmc> Dr_willis: ah, weird. Ok then, how do i make the package manager update firefox? I tried going in there (Add/Remove progs), but firefox was already listed.. so how do i make it update?
[13:22] <Leefmc> Dr_willis: Well officially, RC1, build wise, no idea
[13:22] <Leefmc> I was using RC1 with Windows before my switch
[13:22] <Erosion> What's the default path to where OpenSSL is installed?
[13:22] <m1dn1ght> Hey guys.  Having some trouble using my webcam in Ubuntu.  Trying to use the cheese program to capture video but the program keeps crashing.  I've taken the info from the system log and hopefully this means something to someone:  http://pastebin.com/m1de8c45e
[13:22] <Dr_willis> Leefmc,  same as anytying else gets updated. 'sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade'  its  updated along with everything else.
[13:23] <Dr_willis> Leefmc,  no need for each program to have its own 'update' feature.
[13:23] <Dr_willis> Leefmc,  however - the updates may be a bit slow to come out.
[13:23] <Erosion> What's the default path to where OpenSSL is installed?
[13:23] <Leefmc> Dr_willis: Ah, well i assumed something was needed because firefox isn't asking to upgrade heh. How do i force the issue?
[13:23] <jpds> Erosion: /usr/bin/openssl
[13:23] <Erosion> jpds: Thanks
[13:23] <Dr_willis> Leefmc,  easy answer - you dont.. let the package manager system doits job and handle the updates.
[13:23] <photosinensis> Firefox won't upgrade itself.
[13:24] <jpds> Erosion: "type openssl" reveals all
[13:24] <photosinensis> That's Apt's job.
[13:24] <Dr_willis> well i gotta run - take care.
[13:24] <Erosion> jpds: :-)
[13:24] <Leefmc> bah
[13:24] <KOS> how does ubuntu dispose VPN
[13:24] <anirudh0> is there an equivalent for the "hearts" card came on windows?
[13:25] <Leefmc> photosinensis: Oh, kool your in the convo :). Ok, i understand that the package manager will handle updates, but how do i make it update firefox? I _want_ RC1, what can i do?
[13:25] <anirudh0> nothing seems to be like it in gnome-games
[13:25] <NameTaken> my xfce file manager has huge text and i'm not sure how to fix it
[13:26] <NameTaken> everything else has normal text
[13:26] <m1dn1ght> Anirud0 - yep.  just go to add programs and search for hearts
[13:26] <photosinensis> Well, if you absolutely must have RC1, you *can* get it from Mozilla.
[13:26] <m1dn1ght> it's right there
[13:26] <anirudh0> thanks
[13:26] <photosinensis> Though when the new version is ready, it'll show up in Update Manager, along with all other system upgrades.
[13:26] <rconan> photosinensis, or get it from -proposed is probably better than from mozilla
[13:26] <photosinensis> If you want to force an update, open a command line and type "sudo apt-get update"
[13:27] <photosinensis> rconan: good point.
[13:27] <Rosen> everytime I try to run the *.run file for installing quake3 I get a 'sh cannot open blahblah.run' msg... do I need any special packages to use the sh command ?
[13:27] <photosinensis> There are numerous problems with getting stuff from Mozilla.  It just doesn't work in the same way
[13:27] <Leefmc> photosinensis: And is forcing the updates bad at all? Since updates seem to come rather slow
[13:27] <Leefmc> Question: Is there a shortcut to terminal?
[13:28] <photosinensis> Forcing an update will simply poll the repository servers for the latest version of the software on the servers, then check it against what you've got.
[13:28] <anirudh0> Rosen, you need to do a chmod +x on the .run file first
[13:28] <photosinensis> It won't cause harm.
[13:28] <photosinensis> That said, some servers have more on them than others.
[13:28] <m1dn1ght> leefmc - applications > terminal
[13:28] <robg_> photosynensis: a sync operation
[13:28] <m1dn1ght> applications > accessories > terminal sorry
[13:29] <kahrytan> Who knows how to install Flash for Opera 9.5?
[13:29] <Rosen> anirudh0: thanks :) I'll try again
[13:29]  * photosinensis remembers the days of downloading package lists from Debian--that sometimes took several minutes
[13:29] <Leefmc> m1dn1ght: Yea, but is there a shortcut. Key shortcut
[13:29] <Leefmc> (Alt T, something)
[13:29] <m1dn1ght> Oh - sorry mate.  Misunderstood the question
[13:29] <Leefmc> np
[13:30] <anirudh0> Leefmc, you can set it up..under keyboad shortcuts in sys>prefs
[13:30] <Leefmc> anirudh0: Ah, ty
[13:30] <NameTaken> *sob* i can't find font settings in xfce
[13:31] <Leefmc> photosinensis: Well, i used that command and it did not upgrade FireFox3, is this just how it is with linux? Using the latest software is often not cared about? (I'm not trashing, honest.. that just sounds harsh heh)
[13:31] <m1dn1ght> Shift Alt T by default I think
[13:31] <anirudh0> m1dn1ght, not by default..default is unset
[13:31] <photosinensis> Well, that just checked for updates.  Now run "gksudo update-manager", and if Firefox is ready in the repos, you'll get it.
[13:32] <anirudh0> photosinensis, its there is some repos, but not in others yet..still syncing perhaps
[13:32] <photosinensis> And just so you know, version numbers on packages in the repositories lie.  I've seen many occasions where there was code backported from newer versions.
[13:32] <tornmean9-AGC> can some one help me with installation ive tried few times to install ubuntu 8.04 but when i go for the install it goes to black screen with text saying i/o under run error then something bout dev hda error hard drive not being ready
[13:32] <photosinensis> Yeah, it's probably still syncing with the mirrors.
[13:32] <photosinensis> When I get to the Ubuntu side of this box today, I'll have to check on things.
[13:33]  * photosinensis is currently downloading KDE for Mac, just to check it out
[13:33] <m1dn1ght> Anirudh0 - I must have set that up months ago and forgot about it :)  Just assumed it had been there all along - my bad
[13:33] <m1dn1ght> Hey guys.  Having some trouble using my webcam in Ubuntu.  Trying to use the cheese program to capture video but the program keeps crashing.  I've taken the info from the system log and hopefully this means something to someone:  http://pastebin.com/m1de8c45e
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[13:33] <pgdx> I'm having some networking troubles on a fresh install of hardy! I have got IP address, and I can ping google.com, but when trying to download through port 80 (wget / firefox) I get timed out. Any ideas?
[13:34] <Leefmc> photosinensis: So why do the linux crew prefer this slightly slower way of getting updates? Is it a reliability thing? Is it a feeling of "yay, something is in the package manager, which i know is good because its tested", and thus you are willing to wait for slightly slower updates?
[13:34] <photosinensis> A part of it is quality assurance: we know the code is good and plays well with everything.
[13:34] <brobostigon> hi, i am using 8.04, and am trying to run skype, preferences seems to setup the sound without problem.however when i try to call echotest, it comes back with error "problem with audio capture", any ideas anyone?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> pgdx: are you fully updated?
[13:35] <thehurley> photosinensis, KOS_, did the post make sense?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> pgdx: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:35] <photosinensis> The other thing is that having a unified system of updates allows us to check in one place in the event something major happens.
[13:35] <magnetron> brobostigon: how did you install skype
[13:35] <pgdx> ActionParsnip: downloaded 8,04 ISO today, but apt doesn't work since I'm having problems with my network
[13:35] <brobostigon> medibuntu
[13:35] <ifireball> Leefmc: indeed, having something in the repose (especially the main one) is a guarantee that it's gonna work right with the rest of the system
[13:35] <robg_> brobostigon: I have heard more reports on failing sound capture, where playback seems to work ok.
[13:36] <reven> Hi, Is there anyway to reinstall ubuntu from command line?
[13:36] <photosinensis> For example, if you look in the topic, there's something about a major security bug in Ubuntu's OpenSSL implementation (which was inherited from Debian).
[13:36] <pgdx> ActionParsnip: "Waiting for headers ..."
[13:36] <Leefmc> photosinensis: Should i check there first for _all_ software, and only download from the site if its not in there? For Example i need to download WingIDE, should i be in the habit of looking to the repos first?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> pgdx: thats cool, but check for updates due
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> pgdx: update first, then let us know how you go
[13:36] <NameTaken> my thuntar file manager has huge font, even the file manager settings does -.-
[13:36] <brobostigon> robg_: have you heard a solution?
[13:36] <photosinensis> I recommend only downloading from the repositories, and only taking from the sites that which isn't available through them in the first place.
[13:36] <pgdx> ActionParsnip: how can I update without network connection?
[13:37] <photosinensis> This way you know you're getting coordinated updates on everything.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> pgdx: i thought you had one, just it was slow
[13:37] <robg_> brobostigon: not yet and I haven't configured sound capture myself yet.
[13:37] <dthacker> How can I search for a package that will include libgpod.so.3.0?
[13:37] <photosinensis> Also, applying those updates is much easier through the package manager than it is through raw source code.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> dthacker: sudo apt-get install libgpod.so.3.0
[13:37] <photosinensis> (Trust me on this one: you do not want to return to the days of the half-implemented package manager in early Fedora releases)
[13:38] <thehurley> dthacker,  sudo aptitude search libgpod
[13:38] <ifireball> dthacker: I find searching in packages.ubuntu.com is the easiest way to go about this
[13:38] <dthacker> ActionParsnip: that's not a package name
[13:38] <brobostigon> robg_: i have tried ekiga and it does something similer, it says"failed to open sound device" even though, ekiga is the only prog open accessing the sound.
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> dthacker: try sudo apt-get install gpod
[13:38] <Kungen354646> how do i uninstall timidity++? i followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Midi/SoftwareSynthesisHowTo?action=show&redirect=MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[13:38] <ifireball> dthacker: search by file in packages.ubuntu.com
[13:38] <philsf> has anyone here tested firefox3 rc1 from -proposed?
[13:38] <SndbaD> in www.watch-movies.net i can not watch the movies what i do ? is there software?
[13:39] <robg_> brobostigon: I don't know what it is but there is something wrong there.
[13:39] <photosinensis> thehurley: give me the output of "lsmod | grep ndiswrapper"
[13:39] <photosinensis> (I'll post that to the fora, too)
[13:39] <brobostigon> robg_: i agree, i just need some guidance, some ideas, of where to start.
[13:39] <reven> /msg ubottu etiquette
[13:40] <nanoprobe> how do i enable wirelles card on my laptop? it says that hardware is present, but can't figure it out which key combination enables the card :(
[13:40] <magnetron> SndbaD: you need flash
[13:40] <thehurley> photosinensis, nothing is returned
[13:40] <photosinensis> That's...not good.
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> SndbaD: looks like it needs flash. you installed flash?
[13:41] <photosinensis> Try using "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[13:41] <nanoprobe> ok
[13:42] <thehurley> photosinensis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15984/
[13:43] <Leefmc> So in theory, how long will it take for package manager to get updates? I mean, RC1 is great, been out for a few days atleast (maybe a week?), how much longer?
[13:43] <thehurley> photosinensis, and the lights on the card have now turned on
[13:43] <photosinensis> Okay, that's good news.  *waits for paste to load*
[13:43] <thehurley> photosinensis, great, now i can see all the wireless networks in the area
[13:44] <photosinensis> *nods* You should be able to connect now.
[13:44] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: nothing happend
[13:44] <thehurley> photosinensis, so how to i get this to happen on boot everytime, or will this happen automatically from here  on in now that i've issued "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[13:44] <jnw222> hi
[13:45] <nanoprobe> hi
[13:45] <photosinensis> thehurley: This should happen every time now.  If it gives you trouble, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper should do the trick
[13:45] <photosinensis> nanoprobe: we're still working on updating Firefox, right?
[13:45] <jnw222> i love ubuntu
[13:45] <thehurley> photosinensis, thank you very much for your time, your great
[13:45] <photosinensis> any time, thehurley
[13:46] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: oops, and i was thinking you where talking to me :$
[13:46] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: i'm trying to enable wireless network
[13:46] <scunizi> does anyone have the hard link to the repos for gutsy? I want to download a deb for someone else that doesn't have internet access.
[13:46] <thehurley> heh
[13:47] <photosinensis> ah, ok.  Two very similar issues, one IRC channel.
[13:47] <photosinensis> What's your wireless card?
[13:48] <nanoprobe> broadcom 1395
[13:49] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: wireless 1395 wlan minicard
[13:50] <photosinensis> What's the manufacturer and model number?
[13:50] <Leefmc> Question: So for things like firefox addons, the proper workflow is "Browser Firefox.com/addons, fine one you like, search the package manager for it, and if its not there install it manually?
[13:51] <Leefmc> Seems odd "flash" itself is not in the manager
[13:51] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: Dell
[13:51] <ubman> Hi all when doing an update it trys to do fontconfig but it can and I get this error "trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man5/fonts-conf.5.gz', which is also in package fontconfig-config
[13:51] <ubman> can=can't
[13:51] <tnnc> can someone tell me what this compile linker means when it said cant find -lrms when running the linker thanks
[13:51] <EJ> hi all - a question about ekiga - can it be used on windows systems? i'd like to set it up for someone else - not sure if its possible
[13:52] <photosinensis> Okay, could you just give me the output of lsmod?
[13:52] <photosinensis> Putting it to the paste server would be awesome.
[13:52] <Roums> How can I try to rebuild/recover a destroyed ext2 partition if testdisk find some superblocks ? any idea ? (tried some fsck -b -B /dev..., didn't work)
[13:53] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: what is lsmod?
[13:53] <leejohn> good day guys, i'm having a problem on qmail-scanner on ubuntu does hardy contains perl-suidperl package?
[13:53] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: i'm 3-4 days on linux :D
[13:53] <robg_> Roums: with gparted livecd you can solve almost any problem.
[13:53] <magnetron> tnnc: install the build-essential package, if you haven't done so
[13:54] <kqr-arch> ok... now this is the problem narrowed down a little :P (sry ^^) i get errors http://pastebin.com/m66c21d43 , when i try to compile program http://pastebin.com/m4bf6d9e7 , using command gcc -o test01 test01.c
[13:55] <tnnc> magnetron ok thanks but that is  -lrms referring to
[13:55] <praetorphoenix> ?
[13:55] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: sudo lsmod, should i type this into terminal?
[13:55] <photosinensis> lsmod tells me what drivers the kernel is running.
[13:55] <nette> hi everyone
[13:55] <photosinensis> And yes, type that into the terminal.
[13:55] <nette> are there any other rooms available?
[13:56] <robg_> nette: yes but this is the most actie one.
[13:56] <thehurley> nanoprobe : it might help if you look at the posts on this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5084367
[13:56] <nette> robg: tnx =)
[13:56] <thehurley> photosinensis, helped with that and some of the commands you're going to use are there for you to copy and paste
[13:56] <robg_> nette: active
[13:56] <nette> how do i see who's in here?
[13:57] <robg_> nette: how do you know who is in here ?
[13:57] <nette> ?
[13:57] <andrew000> hi all
[13:57] <nette> hi andrew
[13:57] <Leefmc> Question: I installed WingIDE, via a "Ubuntu Linux Package" (http://wingware.com/downloads), however, i can't find where to launch the program from after the installation. Applications does not display it
[13:57] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: i did that with lsmod, what properties are of interest?
[13:58] <photosinensis> Just put everything in the pastebin.
[13:58] <andrew000> can you please tell me how can I open a manual page in firefox, because man:bash does not work?
[13:58] <leejohn> !perl
[13:58] <kqr-arch> andrew000: why would you need to?
[13:58] <leejohn> good day guys, i'm having a problem on qmail-scanner on ubuntu does hardy contains perl-suidperl package? just asking please
[13:58] <photosinensis> Then, give me a link.  I really need to see the whole thing.
[13:59] <programmer01> why php5 is not wotking when i have libapache-mod-php5 installed ?
[13:59] <thehurley> andrew000, try "man bash"
[13:59] <thehurley> ?
[13:59] <photosinensis> (Translation: I'm not entirely sure what I'm looking for, but I know it's there)
[13:59] <ubman> Hi all when doing an update it trys to do fontconfig but it cant and I get this error "trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man5/fonts-conf.5.gz', which is also in package fontconfig-config
[13:59] <andrew000> aaaa i just want it open in firefox, so i can browse to the links
[13:59] <bascule> for fun on a saturday afternoon, man bash :)
[13:59] <leejohn> ok, i got my answer thanks apt-get install perl-suid
[14:00] <hackel> Today I turned on my computer and discovered I had run out of disk space.  It appears that somehow tracker was running and created a 2.4GB cache file in my root account!  How might this have happened, and how can I disable it?
[14:00] <ifireball> andrew000: google "man bash" :P
[14:00] <mohkohn> How do I stop firefox 3 launching when I choose friefox2?
[14:00] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: where to find pastebin?
[14:00] <mohkohn> Firefox2 I mean
[14:00] <ifireball> andrew000: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html
[14:00] <kqr-arch> nanoprobe: pastebin.com?
[14:00] <kqr-arch> nanoprobe: try google next time ;P
[14:01] <photosinensis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:01] <andrew000> i know i can google the pages, but in ubuntu 7.10 i could do that with the local files; i must be doing something different now.. :)
[14:01] <nanoprobe> i don't know what pastebin is
[14:01] <photosinensis> Once you've posted it, send me a link.
[14:02] <ifireball> andrew000: doesn't work for me on 7.10 you must have installed some plugin to enable that
[14:02] <Steve-Cal> mohkohn: Why do you need both? Why not uninstall one of them?
[14:03] <kenshin> my new ubuntu install crashes
[14:03] <kenshin> :(
[14:03] <mohkohn> When I try to unistall 3 it tries to remove the ubuntu desktop
[14:03] <kenshin> i login and i see a while terminal like screen in a brown background
[14:03] <kenshin> and it just freezes
[14:03] <mohkohn> I need two for a plugin
[14:03] <Leefmc> Anyone? How do you find programs after you install them, if they did not get put into Applications ?
[14:03] <kqr-arch> Leefmc: browse /usr/bin a little for something resembling the program name xD
[14:04] <ifireball> Leefmc: one way is to examine which files the package isntalles into /usr/bin with synaptic
[14:04] <bascule> Leefmc: try saying the name of the application you installed at a shell prompt
[14:04] <bascule> like 'firefox'
[14:04] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: http://pastebin.com/da0a5392
[14:04] <kenshin> I tried repairing x server, didn't help?
[14:04] <kenshin> hello?
[14:04] <alan_m> !patience | kenshin
[14:04] <nubotu> kenshin: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[14:04] <ompaul> Leefmc, do >>      which "program name goes here"    << in a terminal without the "
[14:04] <the_eraser> How do i check where a device is mounted?
[14:05] <ompaul> the_eraser, type mount in a terminal
[14:05] <the_eraser> ompaul: yep thx
[14:05] <lance> Am I on ?
[14:05] <ompaul> lance, depends
[14:05] <alan_m> lance, mic check, your sounding great here :D
[14:06] <lance> No mic yet
[14:06] <SnakeArt> Hi! I need some help with canon pixma mp210 and ubuntu 7.10 (64bit).
[14:06] <Leefmc> ompaul: Did that, nothing happened, i'm looking in user/bin
[14:06] <photosinensis> Okay, so I see ndiswrapper there.  I assume you've taken the .inf file from the Windows drivers and loaded it properly.
[14:06] <alan_m> lance, heh, your on irc though, so thats a start ;)
[14:06] <photosinensis> (correct me if this is not the case)
[14:06] <lance> I am very new to Ubuntu
[14:06] <ompaul> Leefmc, depends on the application
[14:06] <ompaul> Leefmc, if it is not on your path it can't be found afik
[14:06] <Leefmc> ompaul: Found it, it was just under a dif name
[14:07] <alan_m> lance, thats awesome, we have some very experienced people in here that can help you, what do you need help with today?
[14:07] <lance> And as an older user...this ain't easy
[14:07] <lance> lol
[14:07] <ompaul> Leefmc, you can't go moving things around if has other parts that it depends on
[14:07] <pawan> hi
[14:07] <pawan> any good irc client
[14:07] <lance> Oh nothing special
[14:07] <alan_m> !irc | pawan
[14:07] <Leefmc> ompaul: I didnt want to move it, i just wanted to run it :)
[14:07] <nubotu> pawan: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[14:07] <lance> I am just trying to get things clear first
[14:08] <alan_m> lance, sure, if you do have a question, just ask, we can jump to finding an answer for ya :D
[14:08] <lance>  To see what I can do ...before looking for answers
[14:08] <Leefmc> ompaul: How would i go about adding it to Applications, and possibly My desktop/taskbar thingy
[14:08] <ompaul> lance, searching wiki.ubuntu.com is useful for a lot of stuff
[14:09] <SnakeArt> How to make Canon pixma mp210 to work in 64bit gutsy?
[14:09] <alan_m> ompauls corect lance, our wiki site is awesome for answering questions, and so are the forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[14:09] <lance> One question , thought...is there an online user manual? or is buying one at a local bookstore a better answer
[14:09] <ompaul> Leefmc, choose the add applications and look at the type of application but to be honest you can do the shortcut thing with it on the panel add to panel custom if it is not available straight away
[14:09] <alan_m> lance, help.ubuntu.com has a lot of resources (a lot of wiki pages (online resources))
[14:09] <pawan> cant change to higher resolutions
[14:10] <ifireball> lance: A whole bunch of them, try system->help and support
[14:10] <lance> what's awiki?
[14:10] <ifireball> lance: also lost of material on the wbesite and in the foruma
[14:10] <lance> it sure is not a beech in hawaii
[14:10] <alan_m> lance, a wiki is a page thats created that people can collaborate on and edit freely without complaints.
[14:10] <lance> cool
[14:10] <ifireball> lance: do you know what wikipedia is?
[14:11] <pawan> is my nvidia 5200 card not compatible with hardy
[14:11] <lance> kinda
[14:11] <lance> is that the online Encyclopedia?
[14:11] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: i took drivers from windows, i followed a procedure from here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[14:11] <anirudh0> Leefmc, to add an application to the applications menu, you need a .desktop entry in /usr/share/applications
[14:11] <alan_m> lance, wiki.ubuntu.com is esentially the same thing, yeah
[14:11] <alan_m> lance, it is
[14:11] <lance> coool
[14:11] <pawan> how to install drivers through envy
[14:11] <anirudh0> Leefmc, if there is'nt one for your app,you can google for it,or write one by looking at the other .desktop files
[14:12] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: only i have dell vostro 1000, so i took appropriate drivers, not the ones listed there
[14:12] <alan_m> lance, but our wiki is specialized for ubuntu itself, it doesnt have all the other resources that wikipedia has (that would probably be a lot, as we only need ubuntu related stuff)
[14:12] <Leefmc> anirudh0: Is it a bad thing if i dont even see the app in package manager? My app works, i have to terminal "wing3.1" and it works great.. but its not in apps, or package manager
[14:12] <lance> nice
[14:13] <photosinensis> Okay.  One moment, let me take a look.
[14:13] <anirudh0> Leefmc, it might be there under a different name..do a apt-file search wing to find the package name
[14:13] <ifireball> Leefmc: did you install it with the package manager?
[14:13] <alan_m> lance, it is isnt it? :)
[14:13] <pawan> how to transfer files through bluetooth
[14:14] <pawan> !bluetooth
[14:14] <nubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[14:14] <alan_m> lance, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ <---you can check this page out for a taste of our wiki
[14:15] <Dutt> i need help please im having gfx driver problems
[14:15] <Leefmc> ifireball: No, i downloaded a "ubuntu installer" from the website, as the program wasn't listed in the package manager to begin with
[14:15] <lance> I just did
[14:15] <photosinensis> What does "sudo ndiswrapper -l" give you again?  I forgot.
[14:15] <SnakeArt> I really need some help with canon pixma mp210. My ubuntu doesn't seem to notice that there's a new device connected.
[14:16] <lance>  I made a note of the page....until I can figure out how to Bookmark the site
[14:16] <Leefmc> anirudh0: Whats the exact command? sudo apt-file isn't found, not just apt-file
[14:16] <erUSUL> !ask | Dutt
[14:16] <nubotu> Dutt: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:16] <robg_> SnakeArt: go the the driver list and pick a pixma 180 driver.
[14:16] <alan_m> lance, great, as you can tell, ubuntu's community is huge :)
[14:16] <lance> So is the program
[14:17] <Entranced> any idea why when I'm running update manager, I get a msg. that the Upgrade will be partial...?
[14:17] <alan_m> lance, yeah our distribution is kinda big...actually...really small compared to some though ;)
[14:17] <SnakeArt> robg_: You think, that it may work with 64bit? I see no list of printers, and in device info there's no new usb device too.
[14:18] <alan_m> Entranced, that means that update manager couldnt get them all, the packages could break eachother if you got a full update, some of the packages just dont work with eachother.
[14:18] <ifireball> Leefmc: well, then it depends on wither the installer plays nich with the package manager, most stand alone installers don't. (an installer is kinda opposed to the package manager philosophy)
[14:18] <erUSUL> Entranced: you have proposed enabled?
[14:18] <Entranced> lemme see
[14:18] <robg_> SnakeArt: there is a driver list there somwhere. I also have Canon MP210 running.
[14:18] <Leefmc> ifireball: So what do you do normally? Since there have to be a ton of programs not in the manager
[14:19] <nanoprobe> photosinensis:
[14:19] <nanoprobe> bcmwl6 : driver installed
[14:19] <nanoprobe>         device (14E4:4315) present
[14:19] <photosinensis> yeah?
[14:19] <SnakeArt> robg_: Wow. You've got all ther features working? I mean, scanning?
[14:19] <lance_> I am OK with Win2K and XP...some OSX
[14:19] <Entranced> erUSUL, You're correct
[14:19] <lance_> but this is all new
[14:19] <robg_> SnaekArt: I have printing enabled including graphics.
[14:19] <alan_m> lance_, were here if you need us ;)
[14:20] <lance_> thanks
[14:20] <lance_> that's what I was trying for get to this morning
[14:20] <erUSUL> Entranced: alan_m is right do not accept the partial upgrade (i learned it the hard way :( )
[14:20] <Dutt> I used Wubi-8.04 to install ubuntu and then booted it up. it booted no probs and asked me to update alot of stuff (gfx Driver) was one of them, then it asked me to reboot but after that i can still boot it up but i cant see anything and my screen turns off. does anyone know how i can fix this?
[14:20] <Entranced> erUSUL, I don't recall enabling that before... weird
[14:20] <SnakeArt> robg_: Ok. I will try to work on it. Thanks.
[14:20] <lance_> Just some place to go for a bit of help
[14:20] <pawan> how to install envy
[14:21] <robg_> SanekArt: try a re-config from start. I had to wrestle with it a bit.
[14:21] <erUSUL> Entranced: if you are not willing to resolve problems proposed is not adviced for normal users. Backports maybe proposed no
[14:21] <alan_m> erusul, me too....thats why i jumped ion on that
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> hi al, is there a 64bit java plugin for firefox
[14:21] <erUSUL> !envy | pawan
[14:21] <nubotu> pawan: envyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository and has community support. As an early version, its results may vary but this should be used over the unsupported envy package.
[14:21] <ifireball> Leefmc: I try to find a compatible program in the manager (also make sure you enable the multiverse repos, they add a LOT of stuff), is its not in multivers its pretty much an indication that its a little known and unsupported piece of software, or its proprietary
[14:21] <pawan> nvidia 5200 drivers through envy
[14:21] <Entranced> erUSUL, Gotcha! I just disabled the proposed... left backports alone... update manager just went away
[14:22] <programmer01> why php5 is not working ?  I've installed and loaded libapache2-mod-php5
[14:23] <Leefmc> ifireball: How do i see if multiverse is enabled?
[14:23] <Entranced> erUSUL, alan_m <-- Thnx for Help...
[14:23] <eraldo> greetings... ich just changed from fedora to ubuntu.. I'm using N7600GT/2DHT graphics card and there is a tool in gnome with which I enabled the Nvidia acceleration driver ...but where can i now configure my card ... e.g. TV dual monitor settings ...etc
[14:23] <erUSUL> Entranced: no problem
[14:23] <alan_m> Entranced, sure thing :)
[14:23] <ifireball> Leefmc: system->administration->software sources
[14:24] <yamanickill> ok, i know this question has been beaten to death with a big bamboo stick, but i'm looking for an itunes library alternative, for the video side. cause i can download music, thats fine, but i want something to download tv shows legally
[14:24] <eraldo> with kmod-nvidia I had an entry in the Menu saying Nvidia Settings
[14:24] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: i'm not shure if you understand what my problem is. the driver is installed (you saw it), but i can't enable it, wlan indicator is not on and the standard key-combination that works in vista does not work here in linux
[14:24] <programmer01> i've got it
[14:24] <ifireball> yamanickill: try Miro
[14:24] <Leefmc> ifireball: Yea, seems WingIDE (http://wingware.com/downloads) is not on it
[14:25] <yamanickill> is it legal ifireball? looks good though
[14:25] <eraldo> does anyone have the N7600GT too and is willing to guide me ?
[14:25] <ifireball> yamanickill: as legal as it gets
[14:25] <yamanickill> lol ok
[14:25] <photosinensis> The wlan device doesn't have an external switch, does it?
[14:25] <Entranced> eraldo, Have you tried nvidia-settings package ?
[14:26] <yamanickill> any other options from anyone just so i can get a spectrum?
[14:26] <ttt--> how can i empty the recyclebin in ubuntu? i lost the desktop shortcut
[14:26] <ttt--> is that just /tmp?
[14:26] <ifireball> Leefmc: well, its matter of preference, I'd just use Anjuta which is in the repos... I'm not sure Wing is eve open-source
[14:27] <usama> hey i think my compiz-fusion is not working good, whenever i toggle the desktopcube the view is from INSIDE the cube, HELP??!!!
[14:27] <lance_> Thanks for the help today...I am moving on to the wiki pages
[14:27] <yamanickill> ttt--: go to "trash:///"
[14:28] <usama> hey i think my compiz-fusion is not working good, whenever i toggle the desktopcube the view is from INSIDE the cube, HELP??!!!
[14:28] <Leefmc> ifireball: Nope, closed. Well, you can get the source if you sign an NDA
[14:28] <ifireball> Leefmc: though, if you installed the deb package you should be able to see it in synaptic
[14:28] <cakey|laptop> how do i install the internet
[14:28] <Leefmc> ifireball: I did, and synaptic is the apps dropdown?
[14:28] <Roums> robg_ it doesn't work in my case... it says bad magi number in bloc.... although testdisk seemed to find some superblocks
[14:28] <affection82mama> cakey: cp /internet .
[14:29] <robg_> Roums: what was your problem ?
[14:29] <Roums> With some tools I could recover some corrupted data, but I guess most of files on the HD should be unaffected...
[14:29] <ifireball> Leefmc: Synaptic is System->Administration->Synaptic package manager
[14:29] <usama> cakey|laptop: sudo apt-get install internet ...hahah
[14:29] <ttt--> thanks, yamanickill
[14:29] <Entranced> cakey|laptop, Internet is just series of tubes.... you should be able to get it installed just fine --> "aptitude install internet-tubes"
[14:29] <Roums> robg_ a bit... complex, but to make it simple, i got a ext2 hd, accidentally added in a ZFS pool, (raidz), but only a few gigs were transfered on the pool before seeing the mistake
[14:29] <cakey|laptop> thanks
[14:29] <cakey|laptop> :D
[14:29] <Roums> so I try to backup the drive
[14:30] <cakey|laptop> my computer is installing the internet now
[14:30] <Roums> I wonder if I can rebuild the ext2 fs
[14:30] <Entranced> I forgot sudo
[14:30] <Dutt> I used Wubi-8.04 to install ubuntu and then booted it up. it booted no probs and asked me to update alot of stuff (gfx Driver) was one of them, then it asked me to reboot but after that i can still boot it up but i cant see anything and my screen turns off. does anyone know how i can fix this?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> cakey|laptop: nice, thatll take a few millenia
[14:30] <ifireball> Leefmc: if you don't get an entry in the Applications drop-down once you've installed the *.deb file, it just meant they don't give too much effort into making their package top-quality (all the more reason to use the repos...)
[14:30] <SnakeArt> After update from 7.10 to 8.04, do I lost my previous settings and system configuration?
[14:30] <petur> i just baught a Dell XPS 1330 with a Nvidia 8400M GS, and I need the nvidia-glx-new to be installed
[14:31] <petur> but after reboot it dont work, and my res is f**** up
[14:31] <Leefmc> ifireball: I've been using them for a long time, i'm picky with IDEs heh. Im fine with no icon :)
[14:31] <petur> anyone have an ide how to install this?
[14:31] <robg_> Roums: if you cannot repair a broken system, then save files to removable disks, wipe disk clean with gparted and re-install.
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> petur: did you run nvidia-settings ?
[14:31] <programmer01> what ?
[14:31] <cakey|laptop> yes petur
[14:31] <cakey|laptop> sudo apt-get install this
[14:31] <programmer01> i've just finnished my install
[14:31] <cakey|laptop> your welcome
[14:31] <petur> ActionParsnip: what should i do?
[14:31] <Leefmc> ifireball: What would you do about Flash? Thats not in the manager either is it?
[14:31] <programmer01> nvidia-xconfig ?
[14:32] <Erosion> How can I install the zlib devel package for ubuntu-server?
[14:32] <fanch_> re
[14:32] <Roums> robg_ yes but files I 'recover' are corrupted... so it is useless to save them... and as only 10 Gb were transferred on a 500 GB drive, I am pretty sure most files are unaffected
[14:32] <ifireball> Leefmc: well, I suppose adding an icon is easy, just use System->Preferences->Main Menu
[14:32] <Roums> there should be a way to get them back
[14:32] <jrib> Erosion: apt-cache search -n zlib dev
[14:32] <petur> programmer01: what should i do in nvidia-xconfig?
[14:32] <ifireball> Leefmc: sure it is, it the restricted repo I think
[14:32] <Leefmc> ifireball: N/m, flash is in there. just not "supported"
[14:32] <ifireball> !flash
[14:32] <Leefmc> yea
[14:32] <petur> any link to a "how to" :)
[14:32] <nubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[14:32] <Leefmc> my bad, new still :)
[14:32] <programmer01> ok
[14:32] <programmer01> bye
[14:32] <robg_> Roums: OK its your choice.
[14:33] <mulder> Hi all. When I click on the update manager I get a " not all updates can be installed - run a partial upgrade" not sure what to do!
[14:33] <akazawa> how do I mount my sd card reader?
[14:33] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: no, in windows i start it with Fn+F2. is there a way i can set a key combination in a linux? super+F2 would be good
[14:33] <Leefmc> Offhand, anyone know if Amazon's downloader is available for Linux? (or if it works in wine)
[14:34] <kenois_> anyone else experiencing problems with virtualbox after the last update?
[14:34] <Roums> robg_ it is not really a choice, i don't see the point in saving corrupted files no ?
[14:34] <SnakeArt> Do I need to reconfigure anything after update from 7.10 to 8.04 using update-manager?
[14:34] <photosinensis> Not that I know of, but keep asking around, and someone may have an answer.
[14:34] <NeoAngelus> Pardon my intrusion, but is this the place where I can ask questions about- using the Festival(TTS) in my C++ application on Ubuntu 7.04?
[14:34] <photosinensis> Sorry, that's the best I've got.
[14:34] <NeoAngelus> (my apologies 8.04)
[14:34] <jonathan_> hello!
[14:34] <donaldbane> anybody want to take control of my terminal and sort out a problem? Is that even possible
[14:34] <jonathan_> I've a problem with compiz
[14:35] <robg_> Roums: people re-install their systems 3 or 4 times a year for all sorts of reasons. It pays to plan for future failures and future re-installs.
[14:35] <mohkohn> donaldbane, I guess you don't do internet banking on your computer
[14:36] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: could you be so kind and put my nick at the line start. this way i must read the whole chat all the time to be shure i don't miss your answers :D
[14:36] <jonathan_> i installed it and it works :) but when i'm using the cube (including setting the desktops to 4 etc), my kicker (I'm using kubuntu) displayes the apps of ALL Desktops, not only the ones that are running on the actuall desktop
[14:36] <mulder> I can't seem to install updates/upgrades right now. I get "could not calculate the upgrade" message
[14:36] <jonathan_> hw can i change this?
[14:36] <Roums> robg_ I never said that it was the system disk which had a problem, it is a data disk... and I was doing a backup on a raidz pool, unfortunately i lost the backup, so I HAVE to get this back
[14:36] <akazawa> how do I mount a usb sd-card reader?>
[14:37] <ifireball> NeoAngelus: I don't think so since this issue isn't particular to Ubuntu, you'll have better luck asking question in a general festival forum/chat
[14:37] <donaldbane> see what you mean.
[14:38] <NeoAngelus> ifireball: Thank you, then I will try find one. May I ask a question related to this...do you know a Speech Recognition program/API for Ubuntu?
[14:38] <nanoprobe> photosinensis: is there a way to enable Fn key in linux?
[14:38] <ifireball> NeoAngelus: the only ubuntu-specific thing about it is that you'll probably want to install the festival-dev and festival-doc packages and maybe build-essential if you don't have it already
[14:38] <Dutt> ok im haveing gfx driver problems, is there a way i can install a driver package with the terminal before i boot ubuntu up?
[14:39] <jeroen-> whats up with the updates?
[14:39] <jeroen-> today
[14:39] <ifireball> NeoAngelus: Like I said, at this level things aren't ubuntu-specific, so what work on Linux should work on Ubuntu, having said that, Ubuntu seems to include the festival runtime by default
[14:39] <jonathan_> no ideas how to solve my problem?
[14:40] <petur> i just baught a Dell XPS 1330 with a Nvidia 8400M GS, and I need the nvidia-glx-new to be installed
[14:40] <NeoAngelus> ifireball: the festival-dev, that is probably the part I am missing, because the compiler misses some header files.
[14:40] <petur> but after reboot it dont work, and my res fucks up
[14:40] <NeoAngelus> ifireball: again thank you!
[14:40] <jeroen-> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[14:40] <jeroen->   language-support-nl language-support-translations-nl openoffice.org-help-nl openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb
[14:40] <jeroen->   openoffice.org-l10n-en-za openoffice.org-l10n-nl
[14:40] <jeroen-> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[14:40] <jeroen->   gimp-help-en thunderbird thunderbird-locale-en-gb
[14:40] <FloodBot3> jeroen-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:41] <donaldbane> Ok, if I found someone I trusted to take control of my terminal, and if I did all my online banking stuff in windows, woulld they be able to access my windows files
[14:41] <bill> #playchan
[14:41] <ifireball> NeoAngelus: good luck, it'll be interesting to see speech-enabled apps come to linux...
[14:43] <Lr5> I have problems when resuming from hibernation, hibernating itself works fine; When I try to resume, it just says it tries to load it, and nothing happens, even in 20 minutes; Anyone knows what could be the problem? (Fully updated Ubuntu 8.04)
[14:43] <kront75> ciao
[14:43] <nanoprobe> !anyone is there a way to enable Fn key in linux so i can use it?
[14:43] <Leefmc> What would "my distro" be considered, I'm adding sources for apt. "ubuntu" or "ubuntu-desktop" or ..?
[14:44] <NeoAngelus> ifireball: I will do my best...but I just started using Ubuntu a few weeks ago...still enough OS specific things for me the learn before I could even write a more useful application
[14:45] <ifireball> Leefmc: it actually means the version, e.g. gutsy, hardy, etc.
[14:45] <ifireball> NeoAngelus: you programmed on Unix before?
[14:45] <Leefmc> ifireball: Gotcha, and how do i gain permissions to save the file? It says i do not have permissions, Am i not logged in as admin? (being the only user)
[14:45] <Leefmc> ifireball: sessions.list that is
[14:45] <Manacim> use sudo to open the application
[14:46] <ifireball> Leefmc: why don't you simply use the gui rather then edit the file manually? it'll make your life easier...
[14:46] <ifireball> Leefmc: you mean sources.list don't you?
[14:47] <Leefmc> ifireball: Sure, how? I'm just going by instructions heh, it told me the location of the file so i assumed thats what it wanted. And yes, sources.list, sorry. 2 hours of sleep is catching up.
[14:47] <ifireball> Leefmc: just ho into the software sources window, and add from there
[14:47] <Leefmc> software sources?
[14:47] <Leefmc> yup
[14:47] <Leefmc> k
[14:47] <Leefmc> ty
[14:47] <FloodBot3> Leefmc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:48] <loller> is DNS server is installed by default in ubuntu 8.04?
[14:48] <Dutt> can i use the terminal to disable the gfx driver?  the one b4 u boot ubuntu..
[14:48] <NeoAngelus> ifireball: No...first time really using a unix system. FOr have created a simple HTTP server...(btw, installed the dev tools, still can't find EST.h)
[14:48] <smallfoot-> loller, not in ubuntu desktop, maybe in ubuntu server
[14:48] <NeoAngelus> *ifireball: No...first time really using a unix system. For now I have created a simple HTTP server...(btw, installed the dev tools, still can't find EST.h)(my apologies a accidental enter press)
[14:50] <ifireball> NeoAngelus: may I suggest you read "The art of Unix programming"? it offers great tips from a design standpoint
[14:50] <Freeaqingme> I just installed kde4 as well as kdm4, There's one problem however, kde4 is not listed as a possible session in kdm. How do I add it to kdm4?
[14:50] <the_eraser> why would i want to make a livecd on the usbstick instead of installing the entire system on it?
[14:50] <wizard_> hi, i am looking to install ubuntu on to computers from a preconfiggered system... cloning
[14:50] <ifireball> NeoAngelus: if you want to find the package containing a particular file, you can use pckages.ubuntu.com
[14:51] <ifireball> NeoAngelus: though in your case it may be a simple issue of configuring the compiler INCLUDE path
[14:51] <etronik> hey all
[14:52] <Steve-Cal> Freeaqingme: Probably it would be better to ask that in #ubuntu-kde4 :)
[14:52] <etronik> getting the "error calculating upgrade" going from Dapper to Hardy... tried the alternate CD as well... any ideias on how to solve the issue ?
[14:52] <Kakerlake> Can someone tell me where the package hal-device-manager has gone?
[14:53] <wizard_> i heard it went to hal-in-a-handbag
[14:53] <DIL> basket
[14:53] <ben_underscore> wizard_: ha ha!
[14:53] <Steve-Cal> Freeaqingme: Or actually it should be #kubuntu-kde4, sorry about that typo.
[14:53] <legend2440> Kakerlake: in synaptic called gnome-device-manager
[14:53] <hackel> When creating partitions, is there any advantage to "rounding to cylinders"?
[14:54] <Freeaqingme> Steve-Cal, I got it, ty ;)
[14:55] <urfc> hi. jesterday i installed hardy on an IBM T41p. everything was fine, all drivers for the hardware where found. but since the installation for two times my monitor suddenly and slowly became black and stayed black no matter what button i pressed. has anyone any idea what i could do to prevent this strange behavior?
[14:55] <ifireball> NeoAngelus: the package libestools1.2-dev contains an EST.h file, not sure this is what you want, look here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libestools1.2-dev
[14:55] <[GSF]Martin> is there a program similar to microsoft visio for technical drawings avaiable for gnome? one that's not Dia
[14:56] <RedCell> I have a Logitech AK5370 USB mic, and it records in Audacity but it will not show up in WineCFG, nor show up in Ventrilo. Anyone care to help?
[14:56] <NeoAngelus> ifireball: Thank you, is it also possible to search for things the packages include?(or is my concept of packages wrong?) And I know the problem I missing some files which keep me from compiling, but I can't seem to find the files.(tried searching the file system for them) And thank you for the book recommendation, I will search for it in the library.
[14:56] <ifireball> [GSF]Martin: have you tried OOo draw?
[14:56] <NeoAngelus> ifireball: Thank you I will look into them(is there a way to see where the files get placed after installing of the package?)
[14:56] <[GSF]Martin> ifireball: infact no, i'll take a lookt :)
[14:57] <ben_underscore> ifireball: i was about to suggest that too, it is a pretty good package, much like visio
[14:57] <etronik> [GSF]Martin: maybe openoffice draw ?
[14:58] <ifireball> NeoAngelus: the book is available free online; the [list of files] links on packages.ubuntu.com provide full paths, you can also see the files in synaptic once you have the package installed
[14:59] <max__> allo
[14:59] <etronik> Guys, how do I identify possible incompatible packages that might be throwing my upgrade-process beserk !?
[14:59] <ifireball> ben_underscore: personally I like Dia, but to each his own...
[14:59] <Regaldo> I did a fresh install of Heron but i've no sound, can anyone help me out?
[14:59] <Tux2K8> does anyone have idea how do I uninstall nerolinux????????
[14:59] <zvacet> etronik : in your source list replace dapper with hardy and sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[15:00] <ben_underscore> ifireball: haven't used it for ages but recall it did everything it meant to
[15:01] <NeoAngelus> ifireball: thank you so much I found the files(had the file installed all along strange it didn't find it in the search) Now I can try to compile, really thank you!(then it is even easier to find the book)
[15:01] <slave> my network will not work but when its on the live cd it will, i dont understand why it dose not work when not on the live cd
[15:01] <yamanickill> Execulantizator
[15:01] <zvacet> Tux2K8 : from synaptic I supose
[15:01] <etronik> zvacet: Hi from yesterday :-) what is the expected result of that ?? in what is it different from the update-manager process ?
[15:01] <derspankster> Just upgraded my desktop from Gutsy to Hardy. Can't load Nvidia driver, resolution is wrong, Synaptic won't start, along with many other issues. Where to start?
[15:01] <ifireball> NeoAngelus: anything to create a successful Linux developer, you guys are IMPORTANT ;)
[15:02] <zvacet> etronik : results should be the same and that is solution if nothing else working
[15:02] <un1t> narf!
[15:03] <etronik> zvacet: ok I think I'll try that !! last question: what's the risk factor of hosing the whole thing ? :-)
[15:03] <zvacet> etronik : it is very strange that you can not do upgrade from alternate CD
[15:03] <etronik> zvacet: I have LVM volumes (but not on the / volume not /home), would thatbe the problem ?
[15:04] <Dutt> i guess no one can help me
[15:04] <zvacet> etronik : risk is involved so you better back up your files if you have separate home even better (recommended)
[15:04] <derspankster> Dutt, be patient
[15:04] <alan_m> dutt, patience is a virtue in here :)
[15:04] <Dutt> yep
[15:05] <icqnumber_> how to set kdm as default menager instead of gdm and another away around?
[15:05] <zvacet> etronik : now you are telling me that I never worked with LVM so it will be unfair to give you any advice concerning that
[15:05] <alan_m> icqnumber, install kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop (kde and gnome respectively)
[15:06] <alan_m> icqnumber, in sessions on the login screen it will ask you when you switch if you wish to set it as the default.
[15:06] <ifireball> icqnumber: just install one and remove the other
[15:06] <Steve-Cal> icqnumber: If you are currently using GDM and want to switch to KDM, just do this: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"  And do vice-versa if you are currently using KDM...
[15:06] <Xpistos> Has anyone had a problem with hardy and freeze ups or crashes. I get them with no consistency. Compiz Related?
[15:06] <icqnumber_> ifireball:  i want them both
[15:07] <zvacet> etronik : but common sense(if I have one) tell that should be common upgrade because root and home are not on LVM
[15:07] <icqnumber_> alan_m: i do not want to set up the default session!
[15:07] <ifireball> icqnumber: then use the dpkg-reconfigure like Steve-Cal said
[15:08] <icqnumber_> Steve-Cal: thank you
[15:08] <Xpistos> I also have another question: I am a linux newb and I want to setup a file and print server, but don't want to use a KVM. What is the best way to admin the server to login from another system?
[15:08] <etronik> zvacet: I also thought that , but one never knows... especially a noob like me :)
[15:08] <Steve-Cal> icqnumber_: No problem. :)
[15:08] <Xpistos> Thanks ahead of time peeps
[15:09] <etronik> Xpistos: webmin
[15:09] <Condrad> hi i'm new to linux and was wondering what the advantages of ubuntu are vs the other distributions
[15:09] <zvacet> etronik : yes,you never knows maybe I don´t have common sense
[15:09] <Condrad> what comes "out of the box" with ubuntu?
[15:09] <ibbuntu> I accidentally removed my network icon from my panel, how do I get it back? I've tried adding the network monitor, from the add to panel menu but this is not the same thing.
[15:09] <anders> I just deleted two files from an ext3 file system, I just realized one of them (a *.vdi) file should not have been deleted, is there any way for me to recover this file?
[15:09] <etronik> Xpistos: I run my server headless (not now of course trying to upgrade it) burt I access it thru Xvnc or Webmin
[15:09] <philsf> Condrad: what do you need?
[15:09] <alan_m> conrad, its easier to deal with (most of the time), conrad it comes with a lot of different things, such as gimp (an image editor)
[15:10] <Condrad> webserver apache/[h[/mysql and smtp email server
[15:10] <Condrad> *php
[15:10] <alan_m> philsf, he was asking what comes out of the box with ubuntu.
[15:10] <philsf> alan_m: I know
[15:10] <Xpistos> etronik: So that is like remotely logging in on a windows server?
[15:10] <Xpistos> does the program have to be on both the server and client
[15:10] <icqnumber_> one more question, how can i remove the bootsplash-this ubuntu logo, to see kernel messages?
[15:11] <etronik> Xpistos: the Xvnc yeah is like remote desktop, webmin is a web mgmt console with lots of functionality
[15:11] <philsf> Condrad: are you familiar with package tasks? there are tasks that auto-selects bundles for those things
[15:11] <etronik> Xpistos: I think plain remote desktop can access Ubuntu remotely...
[15:11] <Xpistos> etronik: Your opinion, which is better? Which is easier
[15:11] <icqnumber_> !bootsplash
[15:11] <nubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash, try looking on http://stdin.me.uk/bot/factoids.cgi
[15:12] <etronik> Xpistos: between webmin and VNC ??
[15:12] <alan_m> !info splash
[15:12] <nubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info splash, try looking on http://stdin.me.uk/bot/factoids.cgi
[15:12] <Xpistos> etronik: VNC?
[15:12] <icqnumber_> Steve-Cal:  one more question, how can i remove the bootsplash-this ubuntu logo, to see kernel messages?
[15:12] <alan_m> meh, i tried ;/
[15:12] <Condrad> philsf: i'm not familiar with package rasks, are you refering to edubuntu and kbuntu?
[15:12] <etronik> Xpistos: different beasts for different tasks
[15:12] <Condrad> *tasks
[15:12] <RedCell> I have a Logitech AK5370 USB mic, and it records in Audacity but it will not show up in WineCFG, nor show up in Ventrilo. Anyone able to help?
[15:12] <Steve-Cal> icqnumber_:  You can modify the /boot/grub/menu.lst file--do you need help with that?
[15:12] <Xpistos> etronik: okay I will look n
[15:13] <Xpistos> into both and try and get a feel. thanks for the advice my friend
[15:13] <philsf> Condrad: no, those are derivative distributions
[15:13] <icqnumber_> Steve-Cal: i quess yes
[15:13] <etronik> Xpistos: webmin when I want to manage any server component/service, Remote I use rarely when I want to access some specific Linux desktop app, or Putty for simple command line access
[15:14] <icqnumber_> Steve-Cal: do i need to set up splash=0 or something like that, what are the settings?
[15:14] <alan_m> !webmin > alan_m
[15:14] <philsf> Condrad: basically, there are bundles to auto-select packages for webserver, dns server, file server, printer server, etc
[15:14] <Condrad> philsf: ok, so if I install ubuntu do I have to establish package tasks, effectively ticking off the things I want?
[15:14] <nanoprobe> !info fn keys
[15:14] <nubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info fn keys, try looking on http://stdin.me.uk/bot/factoids.cgi
[15:14] <philsf> Condrad: yes
[15:15] <Condrad> philsf: excellent,  is the cd iso image I am downloading now going to prompt me?
[15:15] <icqnumber_> Steve-Cal: is there a howto or something similar, i can not find anything usefull
[15:15] <Steve-Cal> icqnumber_: I think all you have to do is remove the "quiet splash" options at the end of the kernel line, and also remove "quiet" after init.d.
[15:15] <philsf> Condrad: which one are you downloading?
[15:15] <philsf> Condrad: not the desktop one, I presume?
[15:16] <legend2440> icqnumber_: if you instal startupmanager in synaptic you can do that with a gui program
[15:16] <Condrad> philsf: 8.04 desktop 1386
[15:16] <Condrad> *i386
[15:16] <Condrad> philsf: yes
[15:16] <icqnumber_> !info startupmanager
[15:16] <nubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:16] <philsf> Condrad: you can install anything with any installation disk, but those bundles are not "out of the box" for a desktop
[15:17] <icqnumber_> ste
[15:17] <Steve-Cal> legend2440: I would be wary of that program... When I ran it, it changed my menu.lst so that it ONLY gave me options to load Ubuntu--not my other partitions. I found no way around that flaw either, but maybe I didn't try hard enough.
[15:17] <icqnumber_> Steve-Cal, legend2440 thank you for help
[15:17] <alan_m> !info bootup-manager
[15:17] <nubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:17] <philsf> Condrad: but the metapackages make it easy enough for you to select bundles without having to know the packages you need previously
[15:17] <alan_m> meh, i know its that, where do the hyphens go though? lol
[15:18] <Condrad> philsf: ok I think I am getting you, I have been a linux "user" of websrevers for a while so i kind of know the basics, but I have never had to "choose" a distribution before and i'm kind of stuck here on my own so thanks for your advice
[15:18] <tARrAScH> Hi, sometimes when I login (like this time), my desktop doesn't has any icons on it, and there is no pop-up-menu when i rightclick the desktop. What's the name of the process that is repsonsible for it, and how can i fix the problem?
[15:19] <nek> Enter text here...GIA
[15:19] <Steve-Cal> icqnumber_: No problem, and if you really want to try that "startupmanager" I would highly recommend backing up your menu.lst first in case you need it back like I did.
[15:19] <nek> ANY GIRL ?
[15:19] <Steve-Cal> icqnumber: But I personally can't recommend "startupmanager" at this point.
[15:19] <jrib> !ot | nek
[15:19] <nubotu> nek: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:19] <philsf> Condrad: of course, if you already know the programs you need (in your case, apache, mysql, etc) it's even easier.   Please stay on topic here.  The topic is ubuntu support
[15:20] <Steve-Cal> icqnumber: What do you mean? I tried StartupManager and did not have a good experience with it, so I gave up on it.
[15:20] <zvacet> nek : id this become date chanel
[15:20] <Myrtti> nek: this is a channel for ubuntu support
[15:20] <smallfoot-> IS IT A GIRL???????
[15:21] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: tut-tut
[15:21] <smallfoot-> GIRL!!!!!! GIRL!!!!!!!! I LIKE GIRL!!!!!!!!!11
[15:21] <PPKuma> lol
[15:21]  * alan_m sees a steel toe boot coming in someones future.
[15:21] <Myrtti> can we just ignore non-support things and focus here...
[15:21] <PPKuma> hi, im editing my fstab... do i need the UUID of the device?
[15:21] <clarezoe> I don't have internet in my virtualbox，anyone can help?
[15:22] <alan_m> sure myrtti :)
[15:22] <sirfre1> Hi. Just a question, who's responsible of starting gvfs-fuse-daemon? My 8.04 upgraded from 7.10 doesn't start it.
[15:22] <jrib> PPKuma: you don't *need* it
[15:22] <jrib> !uuid | PPKuma
[15:22] <nubotu> PPKuma: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[15:22] <clarezoe> I'm using Sun xVM VirtualBox, host : ubuntu hardy, guest windows XP
[15:22] <dabang> PPKuma: I'd use UUID...
[15:22] <Steve-Cal> clarezoe: Probably the folks in #vbox can help you better.
[15:23] <PPKuma> jrib: thanks
[15:23] <dabang> PPKuma:  ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[15:23] <PPKuma> dabang... i think ie just find the uuid i was looking for
[15:23] <mro1> am i in the right place to be asking about issues with laptops/notebooks, or is there a separate channel for that?
[15:23] <clarezoe> S秀
[15:23] <clarezoe> Steve-Cal, thanks
[15:24] <jrib> mro1: you're in the right place, welcome
[15:24] <alan_m> mro1, you can ask here :)