[05:03] <carstenh> hi, how do I escape ^ in the ubuntu-wiki?
[05:06] <robitaille> hi carstenh...just replied to you in ubuntu-devel :)
[05:06] <carstenh> :)
[05:31] <robitaille> the problem  carstenh had was with a line in the wiki  with two ^ characters; when  moin sees than, then anything between the two ^ is to be superscripted.  Is there any way to avoid that?
[07:20] <jsgotangco> brb
[07:52] <jsgotangco> hello
[07:52] <jsgotangco> venda: hey long time no see
[09:09] <Burgundavia> salut
[09:09] <thechitowncubs> Hello all
[09:09] <jsgotangco> salut
[09:09] <Burgundavia> thechitowncubs, if you want to jump right in, the wiki always needs work
[09:09] <jsgotangco> nice nick
[09:09] <thechitowncubs> I'd love to help, what pages need assistance
[09:09] <Burgundavia> WikiToDo lists some
[09:10] <Burgundavia> pretty much anything needs work
[09:10] <thechitowncubs> jsgotangco: was that nick remark directed at me?
[09:10] <Burgundavia> AudioCDBurning is a good example of a simple, well formatted page
[09:10] <jsgotangco> thechitowncubs: aye
[09:10] <thechitowncubs> Hehe, thanks
[09:11] <thechitowncubs> I'm not very experienced in wiki editing, i'll take a look at the good pages and take off from there
[09:12] <thechitowncubs> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AudioCDBurning
[09:12] <thechitowncubs> that page doesn't exist im afraid
[09:13] <Burgundavia> s/Burning/Creation
[09:16] <thechitowncubs> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnLambrechts
[09:18] <thechitowncubs> I see that the launchpad is coming together, it looks good.
[09:31] <thechitowncubs> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation (added NewUserMultimedia link)
[09:31] <Burgundavia> the NewUser stuff is depreceated
[09:32] <thechitowncubs> what do you mean?
[09:32] <Burgundavia> we are merging that information into existing articles
[09:32] <thechitowncubs> Should I remove change?
[09:33] <thechitowncubs> It is a good article, thought it was worth noting.
[09:33] <Burgundavia> no
[09:33] <Burgundavia> better to merge the data from NewUserMultimedia into the various existing articles
[09:33] <Burgundavia> maybe split the screenshots out
[09:34] <thechitowncubs> I'll see what I can do
[09:34] <Burgundavia> cheers
[09:34] <thechitowncubs> I thought the screenshots were a nice touch
[09:34] <Burgundavia> they are
[09:35] <Burgundavia> maybe create a MultimediaApplications page?
[09:35] <thechitowncubs> Alright cool
[09:39] <robitaille> ealier tonight I did a search on the wiki for "test" and "sandbox", and found a few pages to delete.  So much cleaning still to do....
[09:40] <Burgundavia> yes
[09:40] <Burgundavia> still need to go through the stuff that has not been touched since the autoimport
[09:41] <robitaille> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BadContent  is that some sort of moin filtering thing?
[09:42] <robitaille> and is there a way to easily search for these pre-autoimport pages?
[09:42] <Burgundavia> I suspect so
[09:43] <Burgundavia> robitaille, look at the 90 day recentchanges
[09:43] <Burgundavia> the very bottom day is the autoimport
[09:44] <Burgundavia> the adsl-stuff
[09:45] <robitaille> thanks.
[09:45] <robitaille> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiTips   delete?  mostly (all?) zwiki stuff
[09:45] <jsgotangco> evil zwiki
[09:46] <Burgundavia> delete all
[09:47] <robitaille> it seems part of this group of pages: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiHome
[09:49] <Burgundavia> shall we create a CategoryArchive or CategoryHistorical for the old developer stuff?
[09:51] <robitaille> are you going to put some of the old spec and bof proposals in there?
[09:51] <Burgundavia> ya
[09:51] <Burgundavia> the HoaryReleaseSchedule
[09:51] <Burgundavia> and old meeting notes
[09:52] <robitaille> some I already labelled "UbnutuConferences" but they should probably be in an archive section.
[09:52] <Burgundavia> they can be both
[09:52] <Burgundavia> pages can have multiple categories
[09:52] <thechitowncubs> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:52] <thechitowncubs> sorry
[09:52] <thechitowncubs> wrong paste
[09:53] <thechitowncubs> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[09:53] <Burgundavia> ok
[09:53] <Burgundavia> clean off anything that is not a multimedia application
[09:53] <Burgundavia> everything above "common multimedia ..."
[09:54] <Burgundavia> and make a link to AddingRepositoriesHowto and RestrictedFormats
[09:54] <Burgundavia> so Archive or Historical ?
[09:57] <robitaille> I would  go for Archive
[09:58] <Burgundavia> ok
[09:59] <Burgundavia> done
[10:00] <robitaille> I'm going for the night... see you tomorrow.
[10:01] <thechitowncubs> Page updated.
[10:02] <thechitowncubs> Burgundavia: What do you think so I know for further edits
[10:03] <Burgundavia> any idea what language this is? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PouzivatelskaPrirucka
[10:03] <Burgundavia> need to seperate out default for extra
[10:03] <thechitowncubs> stumped me
[10:04] <Burgundavia> and make it clear what RestrictedFormats is good for
[10:04] <thechitowncubs> 10-4
[10:06] <Burgundavia> cheers
[10:07] <Burgundavia> and make NewUserMultimedia nothing but links
[10:10] <thechitowncubs> links to?
[10:10] <Burgundavia> relevant for each section
[10:10] <Burgundavia> the screenshots section becomes a link to Multimedia, etc.
[10:12] <thechitowncubs> should Sound Juicer and Sound Recorder be considered multimedia applications?
[10:12] <Burgundavia> yes
[10:12] <Burgundavia> and totem
[10:12] <Burgundavia> and muine
[10:12] <Burgundavia> or beep-media-player
[10:12] <thechitowncubs> 10-4
[10:12] <Burgundavia> but don't add new screenshots
[10:13] <Burgundavia> keep this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ListiQuette
[10:13] <thechitowncubs> I'll add new screenshots for programs not within ubuntu, and remove screenshots that ubuntu already has by default
[10:13] <thechitowncubs> that seems logical
[10:15] <Burgundavia> don't remove any screenshots
[10:15] <Burgundavia> as non-ubuntu users might look at the page
[10:16] <thechitowncubs> so why wouldn't i add new screenshots for the other multimedia applications
[10:16] <thechitowncubs> i'm not seeing the logic
[10:16] <Burgundavia> not worth the effort
[10:16] <Burgundavia> as the default theme is likely to change
[10:16] <thechitowncubs> Already been done :)
[10:17] <thechitowncubs> I'll see how it looks and change accordingly
[10:17] <Burgundavia> yes
[10:17] <Burgundavia> ideally screenshots should have one canonical source
[10:17] <Burgundavia> hopefully launchpad can provide that
[10:17] <Burgundavia> as we use it in our Quick Guide as well
[10:35] <thechitowncubs> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[10:35] <Burgundavia> ouch
[10:36] <Burgundavia> you didn't use the default them
[10:36] <Burgundavia> that is fine, as they are likelly to change
[10:36] <Burgundavia> I think Amarok is default for Kubuntu
[10:36] <Burgundavia> but otherwise nice work
[10:36] <Burgundavia> and SJ can play cds in Breezy
[10:37] <jsgotangco> hey that is nice
[10:37] <thechitowncubs> Glad to be a part of ubuntu :(
[10:37] <Burgundavia> we need something like in launchpad
[10:37] <thechitowncubs> :)
[10:37] <thechitowncubs> I will talk you guys tomorrow I hope
[10:38] <Burgundavia> cheers, and thanks for the good work
[10:38] <jsgotangco> WOW a TOC on Moin
[10:38] <Burgundavia> UserDocumentation has it as well
[10:38] <jsgotangco> is it manually created (i bet)
[10:38] <Burgundavia> yes
[10:38] <jsgotangco> arrghh
[10:38] <Burgundavia> well, a table wrapping the TOC
[10:39] <jsgotangco> moin tables are easy to do though compared to mediawiki imo
[10:39] <Burgundavia> not really
[10:39] <Burgundavia> {| starts a table
[10:39] <Burgundavia> |} ends one
[10:39] <Burgundavia> you have a lot more control with mediawiki tables
[10:39] <Burgundavia> and they look cleaner
[10:39] <jsgotangco> UserDocumentation looks nice
[10:40] <Burgundavia> it does
[10:40] <Burgundavia> we just need more content behind it
[10:40] <Burgundavia> I have been adding stuff to the category
[10:40] <Burgundavia> so we can clean it up and add it UD
[10:41] <Burgundavia> gnome-app-install looks like it is coming along
[10:48] <jsgotangco> see you later i got an appointment tonight
[11:04] <jsgotangco> see you guys later
[05:47] <|rockinnerd|> hey
[05:47] <|rockinnerd|> all
[05:53] <mdke> hello
[06:46] <thechitowncubs> hello
[06:51] <jjesse> hello
[06:51] <jjesse> big cubs fan?
[06:59] <thechitowncubs> ya ya
[07:24] <jjesse> my boss is a huge fan, she has season tickets even though she works/lives in west michigan
[07:31] <thechitowncubs> tell her if she can't make it to a game, i'll use the tix
[07:31] <thechitowncubs> :)
[07:34] <jjesse> grin i doubt that :) i think her son is in chicago and gets the ticks if she can't
[07:34] <thechitowncubs> shes lucky
[07:34] <thechitowncubs> what do you do for a living?
[07:34] <jjesse> network admin for a bank
[07:35] <thechitowncubs> what OS?
[07:37] <jjesse> windows for servers and desktop
[07:37] <jjesse> an as/400 for bank processing and working on adding linux as i can
[07:38] <thechitowncubs> hehe
[07:38] <thechitowncubs> are you working on the wiki right now?
[07:38] <jjesse> don't work a lot of the wiki, i work on the docbook side of things
[07:38] <jjesse> need to upload my changes actually for the kdeuserguide
[07:39] <thechitowncubs> sounds good
[07:41] <jjesse> grin and u?
[07:42] <thechitowncubs> I just started doing doc work
[07:42] <thechitowncubs> i'm starting by helping out on the wiki
[07:42] <jjesse> cool welcome to the group :)
[07:42] <thechitowncubs> thanks, glad to be hear
[07:42] <thechitowncubs> here*


[09:40] <eagles0513875> morning guys
[11:04] <gnomefreak> i hate gnome panels
[11:13] <gnomefreak> is gwibber crashing for anyone else?
[11:35]  * gnomefreak hopes to have SM1.1.18 done today for review
[12:01] <asac> gnomefreak: gwibber works for me
[12:05] <gnomefreak> hmmm i cant clear windows for some reason it closes unexpectedly every time it runs
[12:06] <gnomefreak> 2.0.0~bzr401-0ubuntu1~daily1 is the version i am running
[12:11] <asac> hmm ... i probably have the previous verison
[12:12] <gnomefreak> the previous version worked but i just couldnt send messages i havent had time to figure that out yet
[12:19] <asac> i sent one message and it didnt crash
[12:22] <gnomefreak> asac: ill play with it again after build finishes.
[12:27] <gnomefreak> asac: did you get a chance to review sunbird?  i will be AFK for a bit since build will slow me down alot
[12:27]  * gnomefreak off to build races :)
[12:27] <eternal_p> morning all...just installed the A5 of Karmic...with FF, my cookies are saving...I heard there was already a launchpad for this, but I cannot find it
[12:27] <gnomefreak> asac: know the bug # for FF not saving cookies
[12:28] <gnomefreak> eternal_p: 3.0 or 3.5
[12:28] <eternal_p> 3.5
[12:29] <gnomefreak> as i recall there is a bug on it but i havent had a chance to do alot of our bugs in a week or so
[12:29] <gnomefreak> see if i can find it before i start bild again
[12:30] <gnomefreak> eternal_p: ok your bug is that it is saving cookies or its clearing them?
[12:30] <eternal_p> clearing them
[12:30] <eternal_p> or not saving them...if you will
[12:31] <gnomefreak> did you cheak your settings to make sure
[12:33] <gnomefreak> ok i dont see that bug. please file one after you check your settings. you can use Firefox>Help>report a problem
[12:33] <asac> gnomefreak: no
[12:33] <asac> firefox saves cookies for me
[12:33] <gnomefreak> eternal_p: make sure your extensions are not causing this
[12:33] <gnomefreak> asac: it does for me as well
[12:34] <asac> micagh would know the bug id
[12:34] <asac> but i guess he is asleep
[12:34] <gnomefreak> yeah he doesnt get here for a while longer
[12:36] <eternal_p> I only have ad-block, xmarks and better gmail 2
[12:36] <eternal_p> I'll start to disable them
[12:36] <eternal_p> got it
[12:36] <eternal_p> I had never remember history under privacy, thought that was just history, not everything
[12:37] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:37] <gnomefreak> be back in a bit
[12:37] <asac> eternal_p: yeah its a bit confusing
[12:38] <asac> use custom settings
[12:38] <asac> is what you want i guess
[12:38] <eternal_p> now, if only I can get VMWAre Workstation going, I'm set :)
[12:38] <eternal_p> asac: already changed
[12:38] <asac> use virtualbox
[12:39] <eternal_p> asac: not a fan of their USB2 implementation, too slow
[12:44]  * gnomefreak thinks i forgot something :( thinking autoconf
[12:54] <gnomefreak> asac: this is the rejects http://paste.ubuntu.com/264922/  and this is our patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/264923/  what am i not seeing?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> its the 38_mips64_build.patch  IIRC someone was talking about mips (i think debian emails i get)
[12:56] <gnomefreak>  else
[12:56] <gnomefreak> +ifeq ($(OS_TEST),mips64)
[12:56] <gnomefreak> +	CPU_ARCH        = mips
[12:56] <gnomefreak> +else
[12:57] <gnomefreak> that is main patch of patch but all it is for most part is adding 64 to ostest mips
[12:58] <eternal_p> i'm off...thanks again
[12:58] <gnomefreak> sorry the first link is wrong let me get right one
[12:59] <gnomefreak> http://paste.ubuntu.com/264925/ is the rejects file
[13:01] <gnomefreak> there has to be a way to auto update patches in quilt
[13:05] <asac> auto update?
[13:06] <asac> you have to run quilt refresh --diffstat -U8 --no-timestamps
[13:06] <asac> after fixing it
[13:06] <asac> gnomefreak: the mips thing is in the code
[13:06] <asac> you can drop the patch most likely
[13:06] <gnomefreak> but to fix it i have to copy/paste everything to our patch? or is there a way to take .rej and merge it
[13:06] <gnomefreak> asac: ah ok
[13:06] <asac> at lesat the mips thing is in the first paste
[13:07] <asac> not sure if you applied it or somemthing
[13:07] <gnomefreak> i will try it
[13:07] <asac> yeah
[13:07] <asac> well
[13:07] <asac> you wont see a problem obviously on anything else than mips ... which we dont have in ubuntu ;)
[13:07] <asac> but if the mips test is in the upstream tree then its fine to drop
[13:08] <gnomefreak> asac: ok i will drop it and see how it goes
[13:54] <gnomefreak> asac: what is kFreeBSD? the kbsd patch is failing but it looks like all we added was extra line for kfreebsd
[13:54] <asac> gnomefreak: please try to keep it applying
[13:54] <asac> its somethning i need for debian
[13:55] <asac> kfreebsd is a debian system with glib, but on top of freebsd kernel
[13:55] <asac> glibc i mean
[13:55] <gnomefreak> i would love to keep it but every part of it is failing
[13:55] <asac> yes
[13:55] <asac> its just shuffeling a bit
[13:55] <asac> you might want to checkout the icedove patch i have
[13:56] <asac> maybe that works ;)
[13:56] <gnomefreak> ok ill look
[13:56] <asac> but maybe i just disabled it too ;)
[13:56] <asac> if so do it ... but remember to enable again if i did it for iceowl
[13:56]  * gnomefreak thought of that but figured id ask first
[13:58] <gnomefreak> iceowl or icedove?
[13:59] <gnomefreak> * drop patches applied upstream
[13:59] <gnomefreak>   - remove debian/patches/18_kbsd_nspr.dpatch
[13:59] <gnomefreak>   - update debian/patches/series
[13:59] <gnomefreak> that is in bzr branch revision 101 icedove
[13:59] <asac> yes. the nspr stuff was applied as it seems
[14:00] <asac> if its just the nspr part drop it
[14:00] <gnomefreak> nss bits
[14:01] <gnomefreak> http://paste.ubuntu.com/264951/  the first part bothers me since it doesnt mention nss or nspr
[14:01] <asac> gnomefreak: thats not the nspr.patch
[14:01] <asac> that patch still is needed most likely
[14:02] <gnomefreak> ah thats 18 and i have 38
[14:02] <asac> yeah
[14:02] <asac> its probably really just shuffeling the lines a bit
[14:03] <asac> its a bunch of .rej, but all those should be pretty easy
[14:03] <asac> to port
[14:03] <asac> pretty = relatively
[14:10] <asac> kenvandine: please make gwibber shorten url only if there is not enough space ;)
[14:11] <gnomefreak> iceowl icedove dont have this patch at all
[14:11] <asac> k
[14:11]  * gnomefreak was really hoping to cherry pick it
[14:11] <asac> if you can adjust it, it would be great
[14:11] <asac> one second
[14:11] <kenvandine> asac, good idea
[14:11] <gnomefreak> 18_kbsd_nspr.dpatch
[14:11] <kenvandine> asac, please file a bug and assign it to me
[14:12] <asac> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=495522
[14:12] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe the one in there still applied
[14:12] <asac> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=5;filename=icedove.diff.bz2;att=1;bug=495522
[14:12] <asac> extract it from that
[14:12] <gnomefreak> asac: looking
[14:17] <asac> kenvandine: bug 424321
[14:18] <kenvandine> thx!
[14:18] <asac> my solution is a bit tricky, but i think the user experience would be remarkable if it would be really "as-you-type" (in both directions)
[14:19] <asac> hope the description is clear kenvandine
[14:59] <gnomefreak> almost like fixing the kbsd patch now one more fails :( not even sure why its only in seamonkey not tbird
[15:02] <gnomefreak> why the hell do i have this patch and no other package does
[15:06] <gnomefreak> asac_: why is seamonkey the only package that has the 80_security_build.patch?
[15:06] <asac_> whats in there?
[15:07] <gnomefreak> hold on ill pastebin it
[15:07] <gnomefreak> asac_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/264980/
[15:09] <gnomefreak> i lied it seems iceape does as well but you use seamonkey to build iceape as i recall
[15:10] <gnomefreak> and your iceape branch is ~2 years old
[15:16] <gnomefreak> i get the feeling CVE-2009-2408: Compromise of SSL-protected communication is why the failures
[15:36] <gnomefreak> PGO is blocking 3.6 from what im seeing
[15:49] <gnomefreak> mailing list crap is done out of ~60 only 3 were accepted, there has to be an easier way to do this
[16:00] <gnomefreak> well gwibber is still broken, cant clear refresh or send
[16:00] <gnomefreak> no longer crashing
[16:23] <gnomefreak> who is our resident gwibber maintainer?
[17:11] <jcastro> gnomefreak: poke kenvandine
[17:11] <kenvandine> yo
[17:11] <kenvandine> gnomefreak, hey neighbor
[17:11] <jcastro> I was just selling you out
[17:11] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: gwibber wont let me do anything send refresh clear
[17:11] <kenvandine> i heard :)
[17:11] <kenvandine> ok... what version?
[17:12] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: 2.0.0~bzr406-0ubuntu1~daily1
[17:12] <kenvandine> gnomefreak, kill it and run both the daemon and the client in a terminal
[17:12] <kenvandine> to get output
[17:12] <kenvandine> so kill both the gwibber and gwibber-daemon processes
[17:12] <kenvandine> and run gwibber-daemon first
[17:12] <kenvandine> then gwibber
[17:12] <kenvandine> to get some output
[17:13]  * gnomefreak waits for gwibber-daemon to give me something
[17:13] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: so far only WARNING:root:desktopcouch is not available. .  falling back to gconf
[17:14] <kenvandine> yeah
[17:14] <kenvandine> is it working?
[17:14] <kenvandine> does it start working and later fail?
[17:15] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: you mean the deamon/
[17:15] <gnomefreak> ?
[17:15] <kenvandine> either
[17:15] <gnomefreak> ah here we go
[17:15] <micahg> hi gnomefreak
[17:15] <gnomefreak> hi micahg
[17:16] <micahg> I was referring to Ubuntu source package when I was asking about fspot
[17:16] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: her eis output http://paste.ubuntu.com/265049/
[17:16] <gnomefreak> micahg: oh ok
[17:16] <kenvandine> HTTPError: HTTP Error 502: Bad Gateway
[17:16] <kenvandine> humm
[17:16] <kenvandine> gnomefreak, please file a bug with that info
[17:16] <micahg> I was just wondering whether to move it out of the thunderbird package for the request in Ubuntu
[17:16] <kenvandine> make sure you reference your version number too
[17:17] <kenvandine> urllib is failing to talk to twitter
[17:19] <thunderstruck> sorry about that, ok going to file bug
[17:20] <thunderstruck> damn
[17:21] <gnomefreak> ok much better
[17:25] <asac_> fta: can you kickoff a new NM trunk round?
[17:25] <asac_> thx
[17:28] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: bug 424433 if you need more info let me know
[17:28] <kenvandine> thx dude!
[17:28] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: np and thanks for the assist
[17:35] <fta> asac_, sure, done
[17:36] <asac_> fta: rock!!
[17:37] <asac_> i dont like the new http://launchpad.net/builders
[17:38] <fta> me neither
[18:26] <asac_> fta: did the "tip" bustage work out well in the end?
[18:27] <asac_> or will we see this again if they tag SM or something else?
[18:27] <fta> i didn't change anything
[18:35] <asac_> yeah next commit probably would have fixed the tip
[18:35] <asac_> so thats what probably happened
[19:20] <micahg> asac: hi, did you see my conversation with rs last night in the mozilla developers channel about bug 411691?
[19:21] <asac> micahg: i saw that you discuseed something
[19:21] <asac> micahg: thats tbird 3?
[19:22] <asac> feels like the update feature is not properly disabled
[19:22] <micahg> well
[19:22] <micahg> it was a problem when --disable-updater is used like we do
[19:23] <asac> ok
[19:23] <asac> so upstream regression
[19:23] <asac> nice
[19:23] <asac> good catch
[19:23] <asac> you really see that in firefox too?
[19:23] <asac> or is it just mint that have that?
[19:23] <micahg> so he said we can either touch the file in the gre.d dir until it's fixed upstream ot comment out the app.udater preference
[19:23] <micahg> app.updater
[19:23] <asac> yeah
[19:23] <micahg> I see it in 3.5.2
[19:24] <micahg> so, I can make the change/patch, just wondering which one you preferred?
[19:24] <asac> i am not sure what "comment out app.update" preference means
[19:24] <micahg> the updater is currently tied into another component and he'll be removing it in trunk soon
[19:24] <micahg> remove it from the preference file before installing I think
[19:24] <asac> what is the impact of that issue?
[19:24] <asac> is it just noise in error console
[19:24] <micahg> just an annoyance
[19:24] <asac> yeah
[19:24] <micahg> doesn't hurt anything
[19:24] <asac> then lets not patch it
[19:24] <micahg> errors on the console
[19:24] <micahg> well
[19:24] <asac> rather wait for upstream fix
[19:25] <asac> and ensure that it gets landed on 1.9.1 branch
[19:25] <micahg> ah
[19:25] <micahg> he said the full aptch wouldn't land on 1.9.1
[19:25] <asac> lets waiut for the patch first
[19:25] <micahg> ok
[19:25] <asac> we can milestone it so we dont forget
[19:25] <asac> in case they dont patch it in time for release
[19:26] <micahg> I just figured it would be a nice easy fi xfor karmic
[19:26] <micahg> ok milestone for beta?
[19:26] <asac> at best RC
[19:26] <asac> or final
[19:26] <asac> beta is soonish
[19:26] <micahg> ok
[19:26] <micahg> RC or final?
[19:26] <asac> if RC is available use that
[19:26] <micahg> I don't see RC :)
[19:26] <asac> yeah so final
[19:26] <asac> i think they didnt add all steps
[19:26] <asac> final is supposed to be RC
[19:27] <asac> as nothing can be fixed after RC usually
[19:27] <micahg> should I leave myself assigned to it?
[19:27] <asac> sure
[19:27] <asac> ;)
[19:27] <micahg> oh
[19:27] <asac> in that way we are less likely to forget
[19:27] <micahg> I had a crazy problem when building ff3.7
[19:27] <asac> how so?
[19:27] <micahg> when I ran bzr bd, I get a firefox-3.7-firefox-3.7 dir now
[19:28] <micahg> the first time it worked fine
[19:28] <micahg> maybe I shoudl start with a fresh checkout
[19:28] <asac> bzr bd --merge?
[19:28] <micahg> yeah
[19:28] <asac> micahg: feels like you have busted the version in changelog
[19:28] <asac> bzr diff debian/changelog
[19:28] <asac> topmost line
[19:28] <micahg> I did a bzr merge first to get updates that I was missing
[19:28] <asac> you probably have moved from 3.7-.... to firefox-3.7-...
[19:28] <asac> by accident
[19:28] <asac> when copying the new snapshot version
[19:29] <asac> micahg: no bzr bd --merge just means that it unpacks the orig and applies the bzr tree on top
[19:29] <micahg> ah
[19:29] <micahg> I did  :)
[19:29] <asac> hehe
[19:29] <asac> yeah
[19:29] <micahg> nice catch
[19:29] <asac> makes sense
[19:29] <fta> asac, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31318967/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-lpia.firefox-3.5_3.5.4~hg20090904r26332%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu2~umd1~jaunty_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[19:30] <micahg> asac: I'm working on the firefxo real patch
[19:31] <asac> fta: thx for the reminder
[19:31] <asac> maybe i can fix it for tomorrows build ... is more tricky for 1.9.1 branch as the whole nspr code parts are much more dirty than on 3.6/3.7
[19:32] <asac> had to do NM stuff today
[19:33] <asac> micahg: do you know what to do?
[19:33] <micahg> yeah
[19:33] <asac> great
[19:33] <micahg> jsut ahd trouble getting it to build
[19:33] <micahg> well
[19:34] <asac> hehe
[19:34] <asac> ;)
[19:34] <micahg> I'll let you know how it goes
[19:34] <asac> now it should work
[19:34] <asac> firefox is a quick build
[19:34] <asac> because you dont need the full xul
[19:35] <micahg> ok
[19:35] <micahg> well, I'll have to check it over the weekend
[19:36] <micahg> need to get some work done
[19:36] <micahg> oh, asac one more bug I wanted to ask you about
[19:36] <asac> kk
[19:37] <asac> shoot
[19:37] <micahg> bug 418203
[19:37] <micahg> should the Version be 1.0
[19:37] <micahg> it's in the distribution.ini file
[19:37] <asac> i dont know ;)
[19:37] <asac> i think its correct
[19:37] <asac> the info is also used somewhere else
[19:38] <asac> like in the url for extension update etc.
[19:38] <asac> we were told to use that file
[19:38] <asac> i think its for metrics use
[19:38] <asac> but i will check with moz
[19:38] <micahg> ok
[19:45] <asac> micahg: ok sent him a mail
[19:48] <micahg> thanks asac
[20:18] <fta> asac, fta@cube:/data/bot/xulrunner-1.9.2.head $ bzr pull
[20:18] <fta> Using saved parent location: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/xulrunner/xulrunner-1.9.2.head/
[20:18] <fta> bzr: ERROR: These branches have diverged. Use the missing command to see how.
[20:19] <fta> did you uncommit something?
[20:19] <asac> fta: no
[20:19] <asac> i dont think i uncommitted anything
[20:19] <asac> i didnt touch that branch since yesterday
[20:20] <asac> fta: what is your latest commit?
[20:20] <asac> which revision and what is the comment?
[20:21] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/265124/
[20:23] <asac> fta: you committed a new upstream release locally as it seems
[20:23] <asac> and forgot to push
[20:23] <asac> hmm
[20:23] <asac> odd
[20:23] <asac> thats old
[20:24] <asac> i definitly didnt overwrite
[20:24] <fta> the bot pulls & pushes everyday
[20:24] <asac> i dont do that anymore ;)
[20:24] <asac> yes
[20:24] <fta> i noticed the divergence in today's log
[20:24] <fta> but it's older
[20:24] <asac> when did it start?
[20:25] <asac> are you sure that you pushed that release commit?
[20:25] <asac> does the bot do automatic release commits?
[20:28] <fta> the 1st action is to make sure the packaging branch is in sync, so the bot checks for local uncommitted change (and abort, which is not so great), then push & pull
[20:34] <asac> fta: well. the bot uses merge to .daily afaik
[20:34] <fta> hmm, system zlib error: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31321980/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.chromium-browser_<IP_ADDRESS>~svn20090904r25449-0ubuntu1~ucd2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[20:34] <asac> fta: for me its a mystery. push the branch somewhere and i can rebase the .head branch on top of it
[20:35] <fta> asac, i've overwritten mine, nm
[20:35] <asac> ok
[20:35] <asac> so no release?
[20:35] <asac> hmm
[20:35] <asac> ok
[20:35] <asac> bzr rebase is _supposed_ to work well
[20:35] <asac> ;)
[20:35] <asac> but i think its still a mess ;)
[20:35] <asac> would have loved to try
[20:38] <fta> !info zlib1g jaunty
[20:38] <fta> !info zlib1g karmic
[20:38] <fta> hm
[20:40] <fta> should really ship that minizip
[20:49] <asac_> fta: this minizip thing isnt even a lib in upstream tree
[20:49] <asac_> chromium just links the .o files that usually go into a binary
[21:07] <fta> asac_, chromium just needs the .h iirc
[21:08] <BUGabundo> heya
[21:10] <fta> asac, it only affects karmic, weird
[21:11] <BUGabundo> asac ping
[21:24] <fta> asac, http://codereview.chromium.org/16605
[21:47] <asac_> yeah
[21:47] <asac_> so just add the files to zip and get that upstreamed :)
[21:47] <asac_> i mean to libzlib :)
[21:47] <BUGabundo> asac about those stupid dongles that force a disk drive
[21:47] <asac_> or whatever lib is shipped by our lib
[21:47] <asac_> BUGabundo: thats a different issue
[21:47] <BUGabundo> I've asked several users to report bugs
[21:47] <asac_> BUGabundo: karmic has a bunch of improvements for that
[21:47] <BUGabundo> but I don't think anyone opend one
[21:48] <BUGabundo> I don't have one of those stupid ones
[21:48] <BUGabundo> asac I got it was a diff prob
[21:48] <asac_> did those try karmic?
[21:48] <BUGabundo> I inicially though it was it, but then you made it clear
[21:48] <BUGabundo> asac nope, jaunty or older
[21:48] <asac_> yeah
[21:48] <asac_> thats not working
[21:48] <asac_> all the udev stuff that automatically does that isnt in jaunty or older iirc
[21:48] <BUGabundo> ok
[21:49] <asac_> but i think almo0st everything should work nowadays
[21:49] <asac_> otherwise i want bugs for sure
[21:49] <BUGabundo> so karmic should detect those devices and work ok, with NM/MM dectecting the modem ?
[21:49] <BUGabundo> does the PPA version fix it ?
[21:49] <BUGabundo> I could ask for logs, running PPA
[21:51] <BUGabundo> asac on another topic
[21:51] <asac_> i think so
[21:51] <asac_> i need feedback
[21:51] <BUGabundo> can NM use my android as a 3,5 Modem ?
[21:51] <BUGabundo> via USB/wifi/BT on karmic?
[21:51] <asac_> most users probably dont run karmic yet even though it would be nice to get info now
[21:51] <asac_> when we can still fix things without rushing all the tiem
[21:52] <BUGabundo> I know
[21:52] <asac_> BUGabundo: i dont have an android
[21:52] <asac_> let me know if it worked
[21:52] <BUGabundo> I keep telling ppl to run a livecd/ubb
[21:52] <asac_> try usb first
[21:52] <asac_> yeah
[21:52] <BUGabundo> its connected via usb now
[21:52] <BUGabundo> I can run anything you want me too
[21:52] <asac_> well.
[21:52] <asac_> you probably have to first configure android phone
[21:52] <asac_> to be a modem
[21:53] <asac_> have you found that setting?
[21:53] <BUGabundo> oh and before we go into it: when can we have those improvements on MM with signal strenthg and etc? its not on trunk yet
[21:53] <BUGabundo> asac I'll look on the foruns how to do it, I have no idea on how to set it as a modem
[21:58] <asac> BUGabundo: let me know if you find something about android as modem
[21:58] <asac> BUGabundo: the signal strength etc. is coming
[21:59] <asac> definitly for karmic
[21:59] <BUGabundo> finally
[21:59] <asac> we have a few more applet changes in the pipeline
[21:59] <BUGabundo> asaci was hopping MM did some _black_ magic and figured it has a modem there
[21:59] <BUGabundo> it would be awesome
[21:59] <asac> well. if androis is not configured to be a modem then there is no modem
[21:59] <fta> Get:9 http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main zlib1g 1:<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-13ubuntu2 [77.3kB]
[21:59] <fta> there's an update :S
[21:59] <asac> similar to phones that have are not setup as modems
[22:00]  * BUGabundo goes searching forums
[22:01] <BUGabundo> asac i got this http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ for wifi and bt
[22:01] <BUGabundo> no usb so far
[22:01] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/zlib/1:<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-13ubuntu2
[22:29] <fta> https://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2009/09/04/helping-users-keep-plugins-updated/
[22:29] <fta> not sure how that will work though, whitelist?
[22:39] <micahg> fta: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&id=512483
[22:39] <micahg> or rather mozilla bug 512483
[22:41] <micahg> fta: it seems like the code is on the what's new page
[22:42] <fta> hm
[22:47] <BUGabundo> fta didn't chromium now come with flash enabled?
[22:47] <fta> if you have --enable-plugins, yes
[22:48] <fta> extensions are enabled by default, not plugins
[22:49] <BUGabundo> ahhhhh
[22:49] <BUGabundo> what extentions are there?
[22:50] <BUGabundo> I need to open a bug to allow ctrl+q close chromium/me
[22:51] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOL
[22:51] <BUGabundo> the following plugin crashed
[22:51] <BUGabundo> damn flash
[23:09] <fta> ctrl+q was closing before, people complained it was too easy
[23:09] <fta> now it's shift+ctrl+q like the gnome terminal :(
[23:11] <BUGabundo> doh
[23:11] <BUGabundo> well I've had it happen on FF tooo many times
[23:11] <BUGabundo> lolol
[23:12] <BUGabundo> while trying ctrl+w


[00:22] <MenZa> I'm inclined to agree with dragon
[00:23] <micahg> Can I get someone to add ubottu back to Ubuntu Bugs?
[00:23] <micahg> #ubuntu-bugs
[00:24] <micahg> please :)
[00:27] <gord> MenZa: something tells me that it started out as something small but people always say "whats gnome?" or "whats qt?" or whatever and it grew because of necessity, not because its just long
[00:30] <MenZa> hmm
[00:30] <jpds> MenZa: Wait, what?
[00:31] <jpds> micahg: --^ that is.
[00:31] <micahg> jpds: the bot appears to be AWOL from #ubuntu-bugs
[00:31]  * jpds wonders where ubot4 went.
[00:32] <jpds> micahg: And it's back.
[00:33] <micahg> thanks jpds
[00:33] <jpds> No problem.
[00:33] <micahg> should I just ping you next time jpds?
[00:33] <jpds> Yeah, feel free.
[00:33] <micahg> ok
[00:33] <micahg> thanks
[01:56] <genii> Is there even any channel for "Ubuntu Ultimate" ? google seems to indicate no
[01:57] <Flannel> No, the only form of support is through their forums
[01:57] <Flannel> At least, last I checked
[01:57] <genii> Flannel: OK, thanks
[02:57] <linuxguy2009> Hello Im getting a FixDCC Exploit message when entering #ubuntu.
[02:58] <linuxguy2009> My router has the newest firmware available. I got this message a month or two ago and have since updated the firmware already.
[02:59] <linuxguy2009> Anyone?
[03:01]  * genii sips and ponders port 8001/6667
[03:03] <linuxguy2009> Would someone be kind enough to help me. I can not seem to connect to #ubuntu.
[03:04] <linuxguy2009> !ops
[03:04] <linuxguy2009> Hello would someone be kind enough to help me?
[03:05] <linuxguy2009> Ok guess not.
[03:05] <Flannel> linuxguy2009: Erm.
[03:05] <Flannel> Right-o.
[03:06] <genii> Flannel: We'll have to snag him quicker next time...
[03:06] <Flannel> genii: right, within four seconds instead of five ;)
[03:07] <genii> I know :/
[03:09] <genii> linuxguy2009: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit and note the port change to 8001 from 6667 (as well as whatever firmware changes were recommended)
[03:09]  * genii gets ready to hit up-arrow,enter
[03:09] <Flannel> heh, I thought that's what you were doing ;)
[03:11] <LinuxGuy2009> Testing? Anyone see this?
[03:11] <Flannel> LinuxGuy2009: Slow down there cowboy
[03:11] <genii> linuxguy2009: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit and note the port change to 8001 from 6667 (as well as whatever firmware changes were recommended)
[03:11] <LinuxGuy2009> I just changed my port to 8001 in pidgin
[03:12] <LinuxGuy2009> Newest firmware
[03:12] <Flannel> LinuxGuy2009: right, and you were just tested and passed, it seems.
[03:12] <genii> Also try to remember it takes usually longer than 3-4 seconds to form replies
[03:12] <LinuxGuy2009> Can I join #ubuntu now? That ok?
[03:13] <Flannel> LinuxGuy2009: your forward has been removed, so yes.
[03:13] <LinuxGuy2009> thank you
[03:13] <Flannel> Apparently didn't read the topic until after he left here the first time.
[03:17] <genii> Hehe
[04:14] <genii> I'm out, Peace
[07:25] <elky> topyli, i'm assuming he's a regular?
[07:26] <topyli> no. hence no ban
[07:27] <topyli> you think that was too fast?
[07:28] <elky> topyli, oh i at least give them a chance to hang themselves properly, like asking for an apology.
[07:28] <elky> that way people cant complain that we're nuking without trying to mediate and all that hippy stuff.
[07:29] <topyli> elky: that's better i guess. will try to hold it next time
[07:29] <elky> :)
[08:31] <ikonia> tobeno1: you are running bots again
[09:26] <Tm_T> hug me?
[10:14]  * ikonia hugs Tm_T
[12:17] <Seeker`> tobeno1: how can we help you?
[12:17] <tobeno1> why
[12:17] <Seeker`> why what?
[12:18] <tobeno1> i am sorry.
[12:19] <jussi01> Seeker`: he is here because of bot in #ubuntu
[12:19] <jussi01> I just wasnt quick enough...
[12:19] <jussi01> ergh
[12:19] <jussi01> its ikonia's ban iirc
[12:31] <jussi01> !idle | wizzo
[12:57] <eviljussi01> mrgh.
[13:51] <ikonia> jussi01: I've requested nal to take a look due to him running bots again
[13:51] <ikonia>  /who <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:51] <Pici> psst, they're in the channel now
[13:52] <ikonia> it' ok - I saw him rejoin, but that doesn't change my fat fingers
[13:52] <ikonia> he doesn't appear to be running a bot at this time but was earlier
[13:52] <ikonia> fande: would you like to comment on running bots again ?
[13:58] <fande> ubot2?ubot3?ubot4?ubouttu?
[13:59] <fande> are they all bots?!
[14:00] <fande> they are all bots!!do you understand?!
[14:01] <Pici> fande: They are all official channel bots. And only ubottu is in #ubuntu.
[14:02] <fande> sorry.i don't know
[14:05] <fande> +ikonia ask me about the bots everytime.i afraid to add in ubuntu.
[14:09] <fande> hi
[14:09] <Pici> fande: You were running a bot in #ubuntu.
[14:09] <Pici> Correct?
[14:09] <fande> no
[14:10] <Pici> ikonia: ping?
[14:10] <fande> i never let any bots in ubuntu
[14:11] <fande> i promise
[14:11] <Pici> fande: I'm not that familiar with your case here, but ikonia is. please wait a moment for him to return.
[14:12] <fande> ok
[14:16] <ikonia> Pici: sorry I was away from my desk
[14:17] <ikonia> fande: you've been running bots in #ubuntu and been caught. nalioth from Freenode staff also caught you running them in other channels and banned from the whole network for a period of time. I caught you earlier running the same bots again.
[14:17] <fande> how can you know that?
[14:18] <ikonia> I have asked nalioth as a staff member to investigate this further before looking at your ban from #ubuntu
[14:18] <fande> i have a long time not to run bot in freenode since you ask me not in ubuntu
[14:18] <fande> and i never let it in ubuntu
[14:19] <ikonia> fande: you where also told to not run them in freenode - yet I caught you running them earlier
[14:19] <ikonia> hence my asking nalioth a freenode staff member to investigate this futher
[14:20] <fande> oh god.
[14:21] <fande> them?  i don't have many bots.
[14:21] <ikonia> fande: I'm going to pass your ban to nalioth to investigate this further as I could see at least one bot running earlier
[14:22] <fande> yeah,it run in cheers
[14:22] <ikonia> no - you ran it in ##linux
[14:23] <fande> yeah.afternoon i run it in linux
[14:23] <ikonia> nalioth: told you not to run bots on freenode
[14:24] <fande> no i don't get the information
[14:24] <fande> i just think not in ubuntu
[14:24] <ikonia> lets wait for nalioth to arrive
[14:24] <fande> i only let bot in only twice these days
[14:25] <ikonia> I can't be certain of that, lets wait for nalioth please
[14:25] <fande> my teacher just want to get the relationship from chat.so i run it.
[14:25] <ikonia> fande: you where explictly told to remove the bots from freenode
[14:25] <fande> but the bot not in freenode
[14:26] <ikonia> the freenode network
[14:26] <fande> it is in my computer
[14:26] <ikonia> you did not and was removed from the network
[14:26] <ikonia> ok - I don't wish to discuss this further until nalioth is available
[14:26] <fande> it is not harmful to society
[14:26] <ikonia> that is not the point - you don't seem able to follwo the instuctions of staff members. Please wait for nalioth to arrive
[14:28] <fande> ???!!!!!!
[14:28] <ikonia> please wait for nalioth to arrive
[14:29] <fande> ok,if i have time
[14:30] <fande> why you can run ubot2 ubot3 ubot3 in ubuntu.but i can't
[14:30] <ikonia> because they are authorized bots
[14:31] <fande> i just for test,not other aims
[14:32] <nalioth> fande: running bots in channels without the channel owners permission isn't a welcome behavior here
[14:32] <fande> ok
[14:33] <fande> i will never run it in freenode again
[14:33] <fande> but i don't know who's the channel owener
[14:33] <nalioth> fande: /msg chanserv info #channel-name will tell you
[14:35] <fande> thank you
[14:36] <fande> i am not popular in ubuntu because of the bot
[14:38] <ikonia> fande: I've removed the ban in #ubuntu for you. Please don't run any bots in any #ubuntu channels
[14:39] <fande> what's ban?
[14:39] <nalioth> fande: you can join #ubuntu now.  please don't run any more bots on the network  :)
[14:39] <fande> ok i never run it in ubuntu .
[14:40] <fande> but my teacher let me have a test for students to chat in cheers.
[14:40] <ikonia> I think nalioth said the network as in any channel on the freenode network
[14:40] <fande> can i run it again
[14:41] <nalioth> fande: please follow the network policies, okay?  they're all at http://freenode.net
[14:41] <fande> ok
[14:41] <fande> thanks
[17:26] <jussi01> !logs
[17:51] <genii> Weird that he called them in there about #ubuntu-devel issue
[17:51] <Amaranth> Cut-R is in there
[17:52] <Amaranth> dunno if he knows the topic can't be changed
[17:52] <genii> Ah, OK
[17:53] <Pricey> Gimme a shout if you see that guy elsewhere.
[17:53] <elky> i typically am not french-literate, but even i can figure what that's saying.
[17:53] <Pricey> He's not responding to PM.
[18:48] <LjL> am i the only one being often highlighted by [19:48:30] <-- NorwayGeek has left this server ("sudo rm -rf /"). and not liking it?
[18:50] <genii> Apparently... you have the dreaded rm command on your hightlight?
[18:50] <LjL> i sure do
[18:51] <LjL> it's actually a violet highlight, same as the dcc send
[18:53] <LjL> well, i'll just be going then. once upon a time that would have been a redirect here
[18:53] <genii> I just PMd him to change it
[18:53] <Tm_T> hmmh, should be dealt with, don't you think?
[18:53] <Tm_T> ...
[18:53] <genii> eg: /msg NorwayGeek your exit comment on your client contains a command we would rather not see here "sudo rm -rf /" . it would be appreciated if you change it.
[18:54] <Tm_T> reply?
[19:00] <genii> Yes, protesting it doesn't work but changing it anyhow
[19:00] <genii> Apologies on lag, work
[19:07] <Tm_T> (:)
[20:32] <natsy> hi
[20:32] <Tm_T> hello
[20:33] <Flannel> Hi natsy, how can we help you today?
[20:33] <natsy> got an inviter in there
[20:33] <natsy> dont know if it matters on freenode, just thought 'd let you guys know
[20:33] <Flannel> natsy: Who?
[20:33] <natsy> blacksun
[20:35] <natsy> shall i part now
[20:35] <Flannel> natsy: Sure, thanks for letting us know.
[20:35] <natsy> np
[20:36] <Flannel> #thelodge apparently?
[20:40] <Flannel> He says he won't do it again, I think.
[21:35] <MenZa> I think it's time we did something about LjL soon.
[21:35] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:25:52 UTC] <MenZa> You know the IrcGuidelines cover you as well, I trust.
[21:35] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:26:15 UTC] <LjL> you know when to enact them, i trust.
[21:35] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:26:33 UTC] <MenZa> Dude, just don't.  Let's resume where we left off, though.
[21:41] <LjL> feel free to provide a little backscroll.
[21:41] <MenZa> I have.
[21:41] <MenZa> Just before you joined.
[21:42] <MenZa> But, to be honest, I think this is something that should be raised with the IRC-C. I'm in a bit over my head here.
[21:42] <LjL> so, i don't exactly know what you were saying about the "stepping down" section of anything.
[21:42] <LjL> as i already mentioned, i am not interested in raising anything with the IRCC
[21:42] <MenZa> No, but the IRCC is the governing body of the Ubuntu IRC namespace.
[21:43] <MenZa> And I will happily raise this issue myself.
[21:43] <LjL> ok, so have them contact me when they are ready.
[21:43] <MenZa> I will do.
[21:43] <LjL> see you
[21:43] <MenZa> oh dear lord.
[21:50] <Flannel> MenZa: Where was that initial conversation?
[21:50] <MenZa> Flannel: #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:51] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:24:53 UTC] < LjL> MenZa: that's bcause it is horribly confusing.
[21:51] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:24:56 UTC] < LjL> also, because you're dumb.
[21:51] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:25:02 UTC] < MenZa> LjL: that's not very nice :(
[21:51] <MenZa> The initial conversation held up there ^ was in a /query
[21:51] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:25:11 UTC] < LjL> MenZa: bit like your face then
[21:51] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:25:35 UTC] < LjL> MenZa: only to your mom
[21:51] <Flannel> MenZa: aye, just found it.
[21:52] <MenZa> I've just typed out an e-mail to the IRCC with full logs attached
[21:52] <MenZa> Something needs to be done about this
[21:52] <Flannel> He has gotten a bit beliggerent
[21:53] <MenZa> He's become a pain in -ot, imo
[21:53] <MenZa> Flannel: Would you agree consulting the IRCC on this matter would be the appropriate course of action?
[21:55] <Flannel> If you're so inclined, sure.  I don't really feel they need to be involved any moreso than they are being in this channel though.
[21:55] <Flannel> But, that's just personal preference, I imagine.
[21:55] <MenZa> They don't appear to be around currently.
[21:56] <MenZa> Flannel: Remember, I'm fairly knew to all this, I'm not quite into the whole workflow yet :)
[21:56] <Flannel> MenZa: ah, well, they're all asleep right now, but they'll wake up and read scrollback whenever they wake up.
[21:56]  * MenZa saves draft, awaits.
[21:57] <MenZa> elky, jussi01, Pici, nalioth - please do read the backscroll of this channel when you're around :)
[21:57] <MenZa> now they most certainly are!
[21:57] <Flannel> MenZa: Most people will, even non-IRCC people.  So yeah, if you haven't seen discussion here in the next day or so, you could ping them via email just because it's guaranteed to get to them.
[21:57] <MenZa> Shall do.
[21:57] <Seeker`> what on earth was that about?
[21:59] <MenZa> Seeker`: See this backlog from -ot
[21:59] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:24:53 UTC] < LjL> MenZa: that's bcause it is horribly confusing.
[21:59] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:24:56 UTC] < LjL> also, because you're dumb.
[21:59] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:25:02 UTC] < MenZa> LjL: that's not very nice :(
[21:59] <Flannel> MenZa: He can page up ;)
[21:59] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:25:11 UTC] < LjL> MenZa: bit like your face then
[21:59] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:25:35 UTC] < LjL> MenZa: only to your mom
[21:59] <MenZa> Well, yes, but I'm lazy like that, and like having logs there for my convenience :P
[22:04] <LjL> excuse me but i don't like only part of my query with menza being reported, so if that's not a problem, i'd like to give it in full.
[22:05] <Seeker`> MenZa: what is "it" in this context?
[22:05] <Seeker`> LjL: i don't have a problem with it
[22:05] <LjL> i guess it would be menza who might or might not have a problem, since that was a private query with him.
[22:06] <MenZa> Pardon?
[22:06] <LjL> MenZa: i'd like to report the whole of our query.
[22:06] <Seeker`> MenZa: he wants to paste your PM in here
[22:06] <MenZa> No need, I can do that.
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:25:42 UTC] *** Irssi: Starting query in freenode with LjL
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:25:52 UTC] <MenZa> You know the IrcGuidelines cover you as well, I trust.
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:26:15 UTC] <LjL> you know when to enact them, i trust.
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:26:33 UTC] <MenZa> Dude, just don't. You know what this'll lead to, eventually.
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:26:38 UTC] <MenZa> as much as I'd rather not.
[22:07] <LjL> i did intend to use a pastebin, however
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:26:52 UTC] <LjL> you're assuming that i care
[22:07] <LjL> such as http://pastebin.ca/CrgrMurU password "ubuntu"
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:26:57 UTC] <MenZa> yes, yes I do
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:27:02 UTC] <MenZa> if not, why would you else be in -ot?
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:27:19 UTC] <LjL> that's a very good question
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:27:47 UTC] <MenZa> It would be.
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:29:18 UTC] <LjL> look, i don't give a fuck. lately, it's totally ridiculous the way ops have behaved - as far as i'm concerned, i'll do whatever i feel like, since what's in the ops' mind can be taken to be random
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:29:41 UTC] <MenZa> Raise it with the IRC Council, then.
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:29:48 UTC] <LjL> no
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:29:56 UTC] <LjL> i am not interested
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:30:27 UTC] <MenZa> if you're not interested in attempting to change what you see as the problem, I don't see what you can do but abide by the guidelines set out.
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:30:43 UTC] <LjL> i didn't start this conversation
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:31:06 UTC] <MenZa> I would like to point out that, when you were a member of the IRC team, you agreed to abide by the Leadership Code of Conduct
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:31:19 UTC] <LjL> now i am not a member of the irc team
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:31:23 UTC] <MenZa> no
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:31:31 UTC] <MenZa> I would like to point you to the "Stepping Down" section
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:31:46 UTC] <MenZa> this is also covered in the CoC
[22:07] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:32:00 UTC] <LjL> i'll continue this conversation only in #ubuntu-ops
[22:08] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:32:21 UTC] <MenZa> This doesn't sound like a bad idea.
[22:08] <MenZa> I don't believe in making these snippets available in any form other than in this very channel.
[22:08] <LjL> you surely are aware, menza, that they will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/09/25/%23ubuntu-ops.html in 52 minutes.
[22:08] <Seeker`> MenZa: what was the "it" that started this conversation?
[22:09] <MenZa> LjL: I was not. But there you go.
[22:09] <MenZa> Seeker`: The snippet I pasted further up, from -ot
[22:09] <LjL> MenZa: then you might want your friends here to explain to you what "ubuntulog" is for here
[22:09] <MenZa> LjL: Please don't give me that tone.
[22:10] <Seeker`> the snippet started with "thats because it is horribly confusing"
[22:10] <MenZa> It's unnecessary, and does not contribute to this conversation.
[22:10] <MenZa> [2009-09-25 20:24:04 UTC] < MenZa> I am *trying* to tunnel my HTTP connections through SSH, but I am so, so, so confused.
[22:10] <MenZa> Seeker`: ^
[22:10] <LjL> there is no conversation, since you prefer to have this go through the irc council to begin with
[22:10] <LjL> you did slow down my client considerably with that paste, however
[22:10] <LjL> oh well
[22:11]  * MenZa is in over his head.
[22:12] <Seeker`> if a random started behaving like that, they would be kicked at least
[22:13] <MenZa> Seeker`: I figured I'd remind him of his past before I took any actions. He knows the rules.
[22:16] <Seeker`> he clearly isn't interested in following the rules
[22:16] <MenZa> indeed
[22:17] <Seeker`> he has basically said a few times, I don't like the rules, I don't feel that I can change them so I'll just ignore them
[22:24] <MenZa> Seeker`: I'll see what comments I've gotten in the morning.
[22:31] <nalioth> MenZa: i'm sorry, but i'm terribly confused over all this pasting
[22:32] <Seeker`> nalioth: basically this:
[22:32] <Seeker`> Ljl: <insult>
[22:32] <Seeker`> Menza: <you know the rules>
[22:33] <Seeker`> Ljl: <I don't care>
[23:27] <Pricey> MenZa: Available for P?
[23:27] <Pricey> *PM?
[23:28] <MenZa> Pricey: always
[23:34] <Seeker`> always, eh?
[23:35] <MenZa> Seeker`: Always. :)
[23:36] <MenZa> It started with this line in -ot:
[23:36] <MenZa> < MenZa> I am *trying* to tunnel my HTTP connections through SSH, but I am so, so, so confused.
[23:37] <MenZa> This led to a string of insults from LjL (I assume you'll look them up yourself), including calling me 'dumb', and references to, uh, my mother. (This sounds weird when retold like this)
[23:37] <Pricey> MenZa: ahem
[23:37]  * MenZa coughs
[23:39] <jpds> Fail.
[23:41] <MenZa> Rather.
[23:43] <jpds> I so wish I could do: ubottu: tell penguin42 about orly


[02:53] <keithzg[m]> arraybolt3: I mean for most people, just restarting is the easiest and most trouble-free thing to do after updates, but personally I tend to only restart for kernel updates. It's kinda a matter of personal approach. Since on Linux filesystems files can be replaced while still in use, other than basic graphical components pretty much anything should be updated as soon as you launch a new instance of whatever binary or library is in question;
[02:53] <keithzg[m]> biggest hammer you might need would be to restart `sddm` or such, but often even that would probably be overkill technically speaking.
[02:54] <arraybolt3> keithzg[m]: Yeah, but what about background services like network-related libraries and the like?
[02:54] <keithzg[m]> I tend to live in teh terminal, so if a system doesn't have `/var/run/reboot-required` I reckon I don't need to reboot, simple as that, hehe
[02:54] <arraybolt3> keithzg[m]: Didn't know about that file, will definitely be using that!
[02:55] <keithzg[m]> Most of those are rebooted either by default, or optionally, if need be when applying updates; I don't know how the GUI update frontends work these days but at least when using the terminal one will generally get presented with a checklist of services to restart or not that are affected by the updates being applied.
[02:56] <keithzg[m]> And of course one can always just use the `systemctl` or `service` commands to restart the low-level networking services or such!
[02:57] <arraybolt3> keithzg[m]: Hmm, OK, that makes sense. I just want to know what all needs to be systemctl restart'd after an update. But you're right, updates restart stuff. So I probably don't even need to do anything other than a display manager restart. I will definitely be doing this. Thank you!
[03:03] <keithzg[m]> No problem, arraybolt3. And again, even a full-on display manager restart is probably unnecessary unless some very related libs or services got updated! For example one layer less dramatic would be to just log out and log in again---and that's still probably overkill for most updates. One of the great things about Linux is how all these components can closely interact but are weakly coupled, we get a nice modern operating system without it
[03:03] <keithzg[m]> being as fragile or fussy as the more monolithic alternatives.
[03:07] <arraybolt3> keithzg[m]: Yeah, love that about *Ubuntu.
 I need help I  installed wayland its working but sometimes black screen flickers for 2,3 seconds it's scary anyone got same problem and any solution
 I installed wayland from command sudo apt-get plasma-workspace-wayland
[07:36] <iomari891> This is getting frustrating. No matter how many times I update/upgrade my 21.10, I'm still getting: "Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading" when I run: "sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop".What the hell is going on?
[09:26] <iomari891> how to convert iptables: "-I PREROUTING {mess} -i eth0 -p tcp -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -m tcpmss ! --mss 536:65535 -j drop" to nftables?
[09:33] <iomari891> sorry. wrong channel
 I have infinite "Waiting for authorization" when trying to connect to a wifi after 22.04 upgrade
 Seems to be this issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1404059/wpa2-wifi-refuses-to-connect-after-upgrade-to-22-04
 but the recommended fix ist not working
[14:04] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:51] <user|83> how can i upgrade from 20.10 to a current release using command line
[16:01] <enigma9o7[m]> You can force it with sudo do-release-upgrade -d
 My kubuntu 20.04 freezes in start up screen
[20:43] <baltazar_> Hi hi!
[20:44] <baltazar_> Has anyone have had their audio go wacked when using wine lately?
[20:46] <baltazar_> I'm having an issue while playing Starcraft 2 where my audio system starts acting up, changing constant;y from analog to digital output... where it just makes wthe whole audio stop working.
[20:52] <baltazar_> This only happens when using wine... Also I notice that the audio keeps this back and forth until it end showing the microphone as if no output device were available.
[20:54] <baltazar_> http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=11a2ee6e423668f51d92e9f2c586878b9946da27
[21:45] <baltazar_>  ... kubuntu's (ubuntu's) audio system sucks


[12:05] <LocutusOfBorg> folks, what the h*ll did the bot smoke?
[12:05] <LocutusOfBorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1825210/comments/5
[12:05] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1825210 in linux (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Please sync vbox modules from virtualbox 6.0.6 on next kernel update" [High,In progress]
[12:05] <LocutusOfBorg> the bug is against disco, and the bot just added tag "verification-needed-bionic" :)
[12:06] <LocutusOfBorg> I also added bot-stop-nagging, but the bot didn't stop :p
[12:07] <LocutusOfBorg> oh linux-hwe-edge you mean


[03:24] <zipc> I'm trying to replace nouveau by following these instructions http://www.binarytides.com/install-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-14-04 but for some reasons, it still uses nouveau instead of nvidia driver. maybe i'm missing something?


[13:30] <l3on> mdke: ping
[13:30] <mdke> l3on: (In case I'm not around at the moment, please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I get back)


[17:10] <ianto> markjones: 18 connects and disconnects since midnight :/
[17:17] <markjones> and?
[17:18] <markjones> I don't have a BNC now


[00:03] <netsb> ok i'm finding out that it might be because i changed the screen resolution, but i can't find /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:04] <netsb> what is it in xubuntu?
[00:05] <netsb> man why is this so hard to google
[00:05] <netsb> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does nothing :(
[00:05] <knome> netsb, which login splash screen do you mean?
[00:06] <netsb> the normal one?
[00:06] <netsb> the gnome one i guess
[00:06] <knome> what is in it?
[00:07] <netsb> when i click my username, the password box comes up like it usually does
[00:07] <knome> yes?
[00:07] <netsb> and then when i put in my password the screen flashes and then goes back to my login
[00:07] <netsb> now im reading that it's a problem with the screen resolution, but i can't figure out how to change the resolution from terminal
[00:07] <knome> !resolution
[00:07] <netsb> wow thanks.
[00:38] <starscream> I have xubuntu running on virtualbox, and it won't give me any resolutions higher than 800x600
[00:38] <starscream> i can't figure out how to fix it
[00:39] <netsb> yeah i can't get this working
[00:39] <starscream> it needs to be 1280x800
[00:40] <starscream> :/
[00:45] <Traveler> hi guys
[00:46] <Guest38440> would it be possible to boot the xubuntu install from 1 computer, install on a hard drive using usb-ide adapter, and put the drive back in it's original motherboard?
[00:46] <knome> starscream, you need to install guest additions into your xubuntu vboc installation
[00:46] <knome> Guest38440, why not?
[00:47] <NightsB> would that really work? i know that doesn't work with windows
[00:47] <Guest38440> i am mainly a windows user, but i want to revive an old pc.  i know such would be a proble with windows.
[00:49] <knome> it should not be a problem with linux
[00:49] <knome> the only thing i can think of is changed uuid, but that can also be fixed.
[00:53] <Guest38440> how so?
[00:54] <knome> ubuntu mounts disks by uuid.
[00:55] <Guest38440> what is uuid?
[00:56] <knome> it is an unique id for a device.
[00:56] <Guest38440> and this is fixed how?
[00:57] <knome> changing the uuid in fstab, if it happens to be different in the other machine
[00:57] <knome> !fstab | Guest38440
[00:57] <knome> Guest38440, if you don't know at all what you are doing, i suggest you try a different approach.
[01:00] <Guest38440> the laptop i am trying to install on has no cd-rom drive, and can only boot floppies, and through FLoP, can boot usb.
[01:00] <knome> !usb | Guest38440
[01:07] <Guest38440> this laptop only has usb 1.0, so it takes ~45 mins to go from the language to time zone screen.  it is driving me crazy, and i have a much better computer which i would like to act as a host.  do you think using a usb adapter would change the uuid?
[01:08] <knome> Guest38440, sorry, i don't understand what you mean.
[01:09] <Guest38440> i have an idea.  hook up the laptop's drive via usb on my good computer, install, boot puppy linux on the laptop, find the laptop hard drive's uuid, and correct it in fstab
[01:09] <knome> Guest38440, that would work. but as i said, there might not even be that problem.
[01:13] <Guest38440> ok
[01:16] <[1]joes7> I need help please
[01:16] <knome> !ask | [1]joes7
[01:17] <[1]joes7> I have burnt the Xubuntu alternate ISO using Infra Recorder, but when I click on my CD on my pc it will only show xubuntu folders. How do I access the installation?
[01:17] <knome> [1]joes7, the alternate ISO is not an *installed* system.
[01:18] <knome> [1]joes7, it is an installation disk, which you have to put in your drive when you boot your pc
[01:18] <[1]joes7> How do I install xubuntu then, wubi installer takes too long and wont work
[01:18] <[1]joes7> how do i do that?
[01:18] <knome> [1]joes7, put the CD in, and boot.
[01:18] <[1]joes7> Boot what? I'm sorry
[01:18] <knome> boot/restart your computer
[01:19] <[1]joes7> Ok. what's next?
[01:19] <[1]joes7> do I have to change the BIOS order, or something?
[01:19] <knome> well, follow the instructions. as a sidenote, the normal cd would be better to install with, since you can use livecd to test if your hardware works with it. it also has the graphical installer.
[01:20] <Sememmon> hooray for livecds!
[01:20] <knome> [1]joes7, yes, if your CD drive is not higher priority than your HD.
[01:20] <[1]joes7> Do I change the BIOS order or something?
[01:20] <[1]joes7> Ok.
[01:20] <[1]joes7> I am currently running windows xp
[01:20] <[1]joes7> How can I get the livecd?
[01:20] <knome> [1]joes7, are you going to replace windows?
[01:21] <[1]joes7> Yes
[01:21] <[1]joes7> I hate it.
[01:21] <knome> [1]joes7, download the normal ISO and burn it to a CD
[01:21] <[1]joes7> Ok.
[01:21] <knome> [1]joes7, after that, follow the same steps: insert cd into drive and boot :)
[01:21] <[1]joes7> Should the cd run an EXE or something?
[01:22] <knome> uhm, no
[01:22] <[1]joes7> But, can't I install it using Wubi if I already have the ISO file>
[01:22] <[1]joes7> ?
[01:23] <knome> i don't know about wubi a lot, but wubi installation doesn't completely *replace* windows
[01:23] <[1]joes7> I know.
[01:23] <[1]joes7> But can I use wubi with my iso?
[01:24] <knome> better refer to some wubi documentation:
[01:24] <knome> !wubi | [1]joes7
[01:25] <knome> [1]joes7, probably also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[01:34] <[1]joes7> Can I install the xubuntu alternate ISO on virtual box?
[01:34] <knome> [1]joes7, sure.
[01:34] <[1]joes7> Great
[01:34] <[1]joes7> Thanks
[01:35] <[1]joes7> xubuntu rocks!
[01:36] <knome> great to hear. have fun
[01:37] <[1]joes7> thanks
[01:37] <[1]joes7> oh, can anyone give me general pc support?
[01:37] <knome> well, you can try
[01:38] <[1]joes7> my pc keeps making this ticking noise, and shuts down whenever it feels like doing it.
[01:38] <[1]joes7> i have cleaned it completely, and still this happens
[01:38] <knome> does it run horribly hot?
[01:39] <[1]joes7> Not that I have noticed, my room is quite fresh, so I don't think that it is due to overheating
[01:39] <knome> okay. maybe some faulty hardware?
[01:39] <knome> (is the pc old?)
[01:39] <[1]joes7> maybe
[01:39] <[1]joes7> nop
[01:40] <[1]joes7> Oh, one more question. (just curious again) how do I run the xubuntu alternate iso?
[01:41] <knome> like the normal one; insert disk and boot your computer
[01:42] <[1]joes7> I burnt the disk using Infra Recorder. I restarted windows and still I dont know how.
[01:43] <[1]joes7> When I launch my cd on windows, it only shows me the xubuntu folders
[01:43] <[1]joes7> I would like to multiboot it with windows
[01:43] <knome> [1]joes7, so are you planning a dualboot installation, or replace windows with xubuntu, like you said earlier?
[01:44] <[1]joes7> Yes
[01:44] <knome> yes for which one? :D
[02:06] <hi-sarah> how do i get pidgeon going so i can do messenger?
[02:06] <hi-sarah> i am a newbie
[02:11] <JerVA> Hello I have a question about xubuntu
[02:12] <JerVA> Is xubuntu the best OS compared with ubuntu? I have 512 MB ram so I am considering switching from ubuntu to xubuntu
[02:19] <knome> JerVA, yes, xubuntu will probably run more smoothly.
[02:20] <JerVA> Okay. I got the same response from another user - said that 512 MB ram will run smoothly on xubuntu than ubuntu
[02:20] <JerVA> now I'm going to burn ISO
[02:22] <knome> JerVA, you don't have to
[02:22] <knome> JerVA, just install the xubuntu-desktop package
[02:22] <JerVA> yeah
[02:22] <knome> JerVA, and if you at any point want to remove any "ubuntu desktop" packages, see:
[02:22] <knome> !purexfce
[02:22] <JerVA> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-package
[02:23] <knome> JerVA, xubuntu-desktop ;)
[02:23] <JerVA> Yup!
[02:23] <JerVA> Got it that will be better than burning ISO
[02:23] <knome> sure, a lot faster
[02:25] <JerVA> brb I'm going to try this
[02:41] <joshritger> what package do I install to get the network manager and sound manager xubuntu uses?
[02:41] <joshritger> and terminal
[02:43] <knome> joshritger, i suggest you should install xubuntu-desktop
[02:44] <joshritger> knome: it takes up too much resources, I have xfce4 installed and running I just need the sound manager, terminal, and network manager
[02:44] <knome> with sound manager, what do you mean?
[02:45] <joshritger> knome: I need something to control the sound, there is nothing currently to control the sound
[02:46] <knome> joshritger, xfce4-terminal, xfce4-mixer, network-manager-gnome
[02:47] <joshritger> Knome: I have tried installing xubuntu and everything works, but just runs really slow on this particular computer, I installed xfce4 after a command line install and it seems to not be as bloated
[02:47] <joshritger> thanks
[03:10] <JerVA> I got the xubuntu running successfully
[03:10] <JerVA> it's smooth so far - anybody here have wine experience with xubuntu?
[03:10] <knome> some
[03:11] <JerVA> I got the error message - said that wine 1.2 is broken package
[03:19] <dpb1> howdy; is there a mini.iso available for xubuntu?
[03:20] <dpb1> i saw some mention that one could use ubuntu's mini.iso to install xubuntu, but not a lot of hard details
[03:20] <knome> dpb1, minimal image is the same for ubuntu derivatives.
[03:20] <knome> dpb1, the mini.iso doesn't install any packages (eg. DE) by default, so it's not any "derivative" by default
[03:21] <knome> dpb1, what you install is what is becomes.
[03:21] <dpb1> ok, so if i basically just install xubuntu-desktop, i'll be good?
[03:21] <JerVA> I am not sure what to do with broken package of wine 1.2
[03:21] <JerVA> how do I repair broken package in xubuntu?
[03:21] <joshritger> dpb1: I just installed xfce4 after a cli install from a mini iso
[03:21] <knome> dpb1, that would be the same as installing xubuntu from the xubuntu disk, yes.
[03:21] <dpb1> ok, great!  thanks
[03:21] <knome> JerVA, can you pastebin the complete error message?
[03:22] <knome> !pastebin | JerVA
[03:23] <JerVA> http://paste.ubuntu.com/336287/
[03:23] <JerVA> here is the link
[03:24] <knome> just a moment
[03:25] <knome> JerVA, what does 'sudo apt-get check' say in terminal?
[03:26] <JerVA> Reading package lists... Done
[03:26] <JerVA> Building dependency tree
[03:26] <JerVA> Reading state information... Done
[03:26] <JerVA> that's all
[03:26] <knome> hmm
[03:27] <knome> sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[03:28] <JerVA> done with upgrade
[03:28] <JerVA> just now
[03:28] <knome> try to install wine again
[03:28] <JerVA> same message :)
[03:28] <JerVA> :(
[03:30] <knome> JerVA, sudo apt-get install wine1.2 ?
[03:30] <JerVA> interesting it is now installing
[03:30] <JerVA> is it a bug?
[03:30] <knome> probably not.
[03:31] <knome> just some issue.
[03:31] <knome> after the 1.2 package is installed, try installing the wine package
[03:32] <JerVA> It is now working
[03:32] <JerVA> no need to install wine
[03:32] <JerVA> I appreciate it, thanks!
[03:32] <knome> i'd like you to try installing it
[03:32] <knome> if you mind
[03:32] <JerVA> it still say the same message but I checked on Applications>Other
[03:32] <JerVA> Wine1.2 is up and running
[03:32] <JerVA> weird
[03:32] <knome> JerVA, try sudo apt-get install wine -f
[03:33] <JerVA> same thing
[03:33] <knome> okay
[03:33] <knome> weird
[03:34] <Guest91072> hi
[03:36] <crlsktr> hi
[03:36] <JerVA> thanks anyway knome
[03:36] <JerVA> it's working now anyway
[03:36] <knome> JerVA, np
[03:39] <[1]joes> hi
[03:39] <crlsktr> knome, i need a good game to play, can you recomend me one?
[03:40] <[1]joes> how do i change the screen resolution?
[03:42] <leonidb> try warzone2100, its in repository
[03:43] <knome> visitor2, game? :)
[03:43] <knome> crlsktr, i mean
[03:43] <crlsktr> leonibd, thanks i'll try that
[03:44] <knome> crlsktr, frets on fire if you like guitar hero ;)
[03:44] <crlsktr> knome, yea i'm kind of bored
[03:44] <crlsktr> thanks
[03:46] <knome> gonna hit the bed now
[03:46] <knome> good night everybody
[07:41] <Timewarper> guys protest against satanic edition ubuntu
[07:41] <ikonia> !ops | Timewarper multiple channel bans spamming
[07:42] <Timewarper> !ops | Timewarperbad language
[07:42] <Timewarper> !ops | ikonia multiple channel bans spamming
[07:43] <Timewarper> !ops | ikonia ban
[07:43] <Timewarper> PEOPLE PROTEST AGAINST SATANIC EDITION OF UBUNTU (which ikonia obviously supports)
[07:43] <Timewarper> you use ubuntu so you have a say in this
[07:43] <Timewarper> dont let this go on
[07:44] <Timewarper> right now ikonia is trying to mute the people who talk
[07:44] <Timewarper> but he isnt that lucky
[07:44] <Timewarper> PROTEST AGAINST THE PERMISSION CANONICAL GAVE TO SATANIC UBUNTU
[07:45] <Timewarper> dont let his go any further!
[07:45] <Timewarper> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/06/21/canonical-stops-satanists-selling-ubuntu-esque-t-shirts
[07:46] <Timewarper> here are the facts
[07:46] <Timewarper> PROTEST AGAINST CANONICAL
[07:47] <Timewarper> ikonia: you dont have to support the satanists, i know you are a smart man
[07:49] <Timewarper> STOP THEM FROM USING UBUNTU IN THEIR NAME TO PUSH THEIR DISTRO
[09:15] <O-vyzirke> Hozsanna dicsoseges tesvereim
[09:15] <O-vyzirke> Ola bruderz
[09:15] <O-vyzirke> Sysi bruder, ikonia bruder, Pici bruder
[09:15] <O-vyzirke> Aloha
[09:23] <O-vyzirke> penguinz? where? where?
[09:34] <O-vyzirke> wtfm penguinz?
[09:35] <O-vyzirke> jarnos bruder aloha
[09:52] <rgnr> hi
[09:52] <rgnr> got a problem mounting USB
[09:53] <rgnr> it's fat32
[09:53] <rgnr> looks like the locale problem
[09:53] <rgnr> dmesg writes ANSI_X3.4-1968 not found
[09:53] <rgnr> how do i add the locale?
[09:55] <rgnr> ppl any1?
[09:56] <Sysi> you know about that more than me :P
[09:57] <O-vyzirke> Sysi bruder Aloha
[09:57] <Sysi> hi O-vyzirke
[10:53] <O-vyzirke> Javapoluuki
[10:54] <O-vyzirke> Da finnish penguin?
[10:54] <O-vyzirke> Moi Moi
[10:54] <Sysi> you are bored? go some -offtopic
[10:54] <Sysi> i'm at school
[10:55] <O-vyzirke> Sysi bruder? Have you any problemz honeymoon?
[10:55] <O-vyzirke> My good friend an actor. He live in nearby Helsinki
[10:55] <O-vyzirke> But he no finnish , he hungarian
[11:21] <O-vyzirke> Pici bruder?
[11:21] <O-vyzirke> Pici in hungarian = littlest, smallest
[16:55] <Balsaq> howdy knome
[17:12] <yesitisjustme> xubuntu 9.10 doesn't have disk utility?
[17:14] <h3x> yesitisjustme, there is brasero
[17:15] <yesitisjustme> brasero is a burning program isn't  it
[17:16] <yesitisjustme> i mean this ---> Palimpsest Disk Utility
[17:16] <yesitisjustme> it test harddrive
[17:17] <vanPelt> hi
[17:18] <charlie-tca> yesitisjustme: I show it as part of the gnome-disk-utility package
[17:18] <yesitisjustme> i see
[17:32] <h3x> i want to mount cdrom but this http://xubuntu.pastebin.com/f10cfb69e kind of error is shown can anyone explain me why? :/
[17:34] <charlie-tca> what kind of cd is in the drive? Is the drive a cd-rw drive?
[17:41] <h3x> charlie-tca, it's cd-r
[17:42] <h3x> charlie-tca, dirve is dvd-r
[17:42] <h3x> dvd-rw
[17:46] <charlie-tca> looks to be missing some parameters then. It is trying to mount it as an already recorded cd-r, not a blank
[17:47] <charlie-tca> it does not recognize anything on the cd
[17:47] <charlie-tca> Perhaps a cd-r that has been recorded wrong or never closed after it was recorded?
[17:47] <h3x> charlie-tca, but it isn't blank
[17:48] <h3x> charlie-tca, maybe it's not closed
[17:48] <h3x> charlie-tca, it's burned on windows box i guess.
[17:48] <charlie-tca> Recorded in a different country format than the format the dvd is in
[17:48] <charlie-tca> maybe?
[17:49] <h3x> charlie-tca, country format?
[17:49] <h3x> charlie-tca, what's it?
[17:49] <charlie-tca> dvd players are set for the region.
[17:49] <charlie-tca> It may be trying to tell you the region is wrong
[17:50] <h3x> charlie-tca, oh no cd disk contains files it's not movie or such..
[17:50] <charlie-tca> hmmm
[17:50] <charlie-tca> back to the closed thing, maybe
[17:51] <charlie-tca> windows doesn't always close the recording properly
[17:51] <h3x> charlie-tca, can't i mount unclosed diks?
[17:51] <h3x> disks*
[17:51] <charlie-tca> no
[17:51] <charlie-tca> not a cd-r
[17:52] <charlie-tca> there is no way for xubuntu/brassero to know what is on it, except to see it is not blank.
[17:53] <h3x> so only solutionis to open it with windows? :|
[17:53] <charlie-tca> at least, as far as I know
[17:54] <charlie-tca> also, sometimes, it is the player itself. The laser doesn't always hit right, and can't read what a different player wrote
[17:54] <charlie-tca> and sometimes, it is me. I might be way wrong...
[17:56] <h3x> charlie-tca, ok thanks..
[17:57] <charlie-tca> Hope it helps a little, anyway
[17:58] <charlie-tca> I did have one burner, anything I burned on it was only readable on it.
[18:33] <yesitisjustme> when i click the on gsmartcontrol nothing happens the only way i am able to run it is in terminal.
[18:33] <yesitisjustme> anyone know why?
[18:37] <vik> Hello, I am using dwa-110 usb wireless adapter from d-link. It uses rt73usb driver but it seems I am having some problems with wireless. Will using ndiswrapper help in any way? How to avoid any conflicts with rt73usb? Thanks, I really need help her
[18:43] <likemindead> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rt73usb+Karmic | vik, looks like a pain. :-\
[18:55] <vik> likemindead, thanks, I am googling it for weeks though, I cannot really find a sulution. It seems to be a problem indeed
[18:58] <likemindead> This for a laptop or desktop, vik?
[18:58] <vik> laptop
[18:58] <likemindead> Either way, I'd just buy a cheap Linux-friendly wireless card on eBay.
[18:58] <likemindead> Does the laptop have a mini-PCI port?
[18:59] <vik> likemindead, I've read that this one works out of the box on karmic
[18:59] <vik> It does, but terribly
[18:59] <likemindead> http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?LH_BIN=1&LH_IncludeSIF=1&_nkw=Intel+PRO+2200&_trksid=p3286.c0.m301
[18:59] <likemindead> That's what I did. :D
[18:59] <vik> likemindead, It has a pci port, not mini, normal one
[19:01] <vik> likemindead, thanks. Anyway, would you recommed using ndiswrapper, or does it create problems
[19:03] <likemindead> I've always avoided ndiswrapper, but know many who use it successfully.
[19:09] <AgentChieftain> hey guys, i need a quick and easy favor
[19:09] <AgentChieftain> i'm editing fstab to get a thumb drive to work for me, but the tutorial says to use gedit and i'm using mousepad
[19:09] <AgentChieftain> http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=34280
[19:10] <AgentChieftain> theyre saying to remove the last line, but there are some spaces in the file which makes me think it could be a different line
[19:11] <charlie-tca> Should not matter what editor you use, the last line will still be the last line
[19:11] <AgentChieftain> ah, alright
[19:11] <AgentChieftain> thanks
[19:14] <AgentChieftain> good thing its not like notepad/wordpad
[19:15] <charlie-tca> yeah
[19:32] <hagg> hi, i have a problem with libnotify-notifications in xfce. they are shown correctly (i think, accourding to the design specs), but they ignore the given timeout, either when invoking by notify-send from cli, or using a python script with python-notify
[19:33] <hagg> i recognized that there is a xfce4-notifyd, but that conflicts with notify-osd, which is recommended by xubuntu-desktop
[19:35] <hagg> its very annoying if there are a dozen messages in the notification queue, shown one-after-one each for the full 10s (i think)
[19:37] <hagg> is there some kind of workaround for that problem?
[19:58] <charlie-tca> hagg
[19:58] <charlie-tca> hagg: I think that is the way it is designed
[20:09] <hagg> thx. i found a discussion thread some minutes ago about it, i think you're right. its a pity. i'm just removing notify-osd and installing notification-daemon...
[21:03] <vik> I am using rt73usb driver for my wireless adapter. How to switch to ndiswrapper (I have all installed) thanks
[21:06] <vik> I mean, how to remove rt73usb (or stop using it) and how to start using ndiswrapper? thanks
[21:52] <paul5_flaweddeus> can someone help me to get sound on my computer, i have a geforce 8500 gt i think and it wont play sound.
[21:53] <paul5_flaweddeus> :D well thanks :) ill try that .....
[21:54] <Sysi> it would be odd if graphics card would play sound
[21:54] <paul5_flaweddeus> hdmi
[21:54] <Sysi> oh that kind of case
[21:54] <paul5_flaweddeus> o.o yeah
[21:55] <Sysi> in my 8500 isn't hdmi connector :o
[21:55] <paul5_flaweddeus> well then, let me check the hardware.
[21:57] <paul5_flaweddeus>  VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G86 [GeForce 8500 GT] (rev a1)
[21:57] <paul5_flaweddeus> ?
[21:57] <paul5_flaweddeus> is it wrong?
[21:58] <paul5_flaweddeus> sorry im a newb :|
[21:58] <Sysi> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8500 GT (rev a1)
[21:58] <Sysi> hum
[22:19] <Sememmon> any caveats worth noting when adding compiz to an xubuntu 9.10 install?
[22:49] <paul3> hello
[22:49] <paul3> sysi
[22:49] <paul3> does it matter if i have an asus?
[22:50] <paul3> o.o


[14:30] <cjwatson> LP builders are all running a focal base image now, so 5.4 kernel.  Let us know if you see anything amiss
[15:23] <rbasak> cjwatson: I might try retrying the mariadb-10.6 builds then, IIUC?
[15:23] <cjwatson> rbasak: I already did, they're broken on jammy for other reasons
[15:24] <rbasak> Ah. Thanks!
[15:24] <cjwatson> rbasak: impish builds in https://launchpad.net/~mysql-ubuntu/+archive/ubuntu/mariadb-10.6 seem to be working though
[15:24] <cjwatson> So that makes it Not My Problem :-)
[15:24] <rbasak> :)
[15:25] <cjwatson> rbasak: the jammy errors are something to do with openssl.  search for "cmake error"
[15:25] <cjwatson> (the usual strategy of reading back from the end of the log is very confusing here, because it produces a giant cmake log at the end)
[15:27] <rbasak> cjwatson: could you update bug 1943292 please? That should have the effect of pinging Otto
[15:27] <cjwatson> rbasak: I'm already mid-draft
[15:27] <rbasak> Sorry
[15:27] <cjwatson> np
[15:27] <cjwatson> I just wanted to see the impish builds complete first
[15:28] <rbasak> Ah this will totally be an openssl 3.0 thing
[15:29] <rbasak> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1005950 has a patch, and Otto got it working yesterday
[15:29] <cjwatson> Yeah, looked like it
[15:29] <rbasak> So it just needs some coordination with Otto I think
[15:30] <rbasak> He'll want to avoid an Ubuntu delta.
[15:35] <cjwatson> And scaled out lcy02 builders to 120, allowing us to put the older and slower lgw01 builders on manual (just for redundancy now)


 Forwarded from Lubuntu Announcements: LXQt 1.2 has now been uploaded to both Lubuntu Lunar Lobster (what will
 become 23.04) and the Backports Staging repository for 22.04 LTS.

 You can find the complete 22.04 LTS call for testing here: https://lubuntu.me/lxqt1-2-jammy-backports-cft/

 Let's celebrate another great LXQt release together!
[17:59] <iw2evk> ciao a tutti


[01:49] <abelli> does anyone of you know valerio catalano?
[02:10] <enrico> abelli: ciao
[02:10] <enrico> abelli: doesn't tell me much atm
[08:04] <sivang> hi enrico
[08:07] <sivang> enrico:  'sup? ;-)
[08:12] <enrico> hello sivan!
[08:13] <enrico> I'm back home since a couple of days, but I keep waking up really early
[08:13] <enrico> sivang: what are you doing already awake on the sabbath?
[08:18] <sivang> enrico: hehem actually got up aroud 4am my time, these is the slowly readjusting to UTC :)
[08:18] <sivang> nithing more nice then smeeling morning in an early sabbath day :)
[08:22] <sivang> enrico: going to eat something, be back in a 30
[08:23] <enrico> yup
[08:55] <sivang> enrico: back
[09:27] <sivang> hi hypatia
[09:27] <hypatia> hi
[09:30] <hypatia> I want to see what's happening :)
[09:32] <enrico> Hello hypatia!
[09:33] <enrico> hypatia: are you connected to the Hypatia group?
[09:33] <hypatia> I've never heard of it.
[09:33] <hypatia> So I think it is unlikely :)
[09:33] <enrico> hypatia: ok :)
[09:34] <hypatia> what is it?
[09:35] <enrico> hypatia: http://hipatia.info/
[09:36] <sivang> enrico: this is an italian project?
[09:36] <enrico> sivang: quite international afaik
[09:37] <sivang> enrico: but started in italy?
[09:38] <enrico> sivang: I don't know.  I've met italians and brasilians who were part of it
[09:38] <enrico> It could have been born trasversally over the net
[09:38] <sivang> enrico: Ah nice, very nice description
[11:26] <abelli> enrico: dig
[11:26] <abelli> the pig
[11:28] <sivang> abelli: what pig? ;-)
[11:28] <abelli> dig the pig..
[11:28] <abelli> pig the dig
[11:29] <sivang> hehehe
[12:43] <enrico> hello!
[12:44] <enrico> Someone knows of a blog post software per windows with a really simple interface?
[01:02] <abelli> enrico: straw o liferea
[01:58] <_d4vid> play S?hne Mannheims - Und Wenn Ein Lied.mp3
[02:48] <abelli> Kinnison: ding
[02:49] <abelli> enrico: san martino
[02:49] <enrico> abelli: campanaro
[02:49] <abelli> enrico: ding dong dan
[04:39] <enrico> sivang: around?
[04:39] <enrico> There will be a Debian packaging tutorial in #debian-women tomorrow jan 30, 21:00 UTC
[04:40] <sivang> enrico: wow, I'll try that
[04:40] <sivang> :)
[04:40] <enrico> Strongly suggested!
[04:40] <sivang> btw, didn't know there is a deiban woman channel
[04:40] <sivang> enrico: I'll do my best to be there :)
[04:41] <sivang> actually, I will join this channel now just to see what's on there :)
[04:41] <sivang> sounds , hrm, interesting :)
[04:43] <sivang> hehe
[04:43] <sivang> enrico: say, I dind't know mdz is there?
[04:43] <sivang> and bob2?
[04:43] <sivang> wowow
[04:43] <enrico> sivang: and fabbione
[04:44] <sivang> yes..
[04:44] <sivang> I wonder if he met his wife from there ?
[04:44] <enrico> no, no
[04:44] <sivang> was kidding :)
[04:44] <enrico> The channel started after last debconf
[04:44] <enrico> it's pretty new
[04:44] <sivang> ah I see.
[04:45] <sivang> so mdz and fabbione probably are helping people to create pakcages there?
[04:46] <enrico> they are not much active there
[04:46] <sivang> eh I see, well they just love to lurk I suppose l-))))
[04:47] <enrico> they have been there since the channel has been created
[04:52] <enrico> sivang: Simira was at the ubuntu conf, if you remember
[04:53] <sivang> ah righ!
[05:57] <_d4vid> ky all
[05:57] <enrico> hello _d4vid !
[06:29] <ick> ciao a tutti
[06:29] <ick> belli e brutti
[06:34] <abelli> Kinnison: Princeps
[09:00] <abelli> enrico: tu quoque magister meo
[09:00] <abelli> enrico: http://rubyforge.org/frs/shownotes.php?release_id=1082
[09:00] <abelli> you're out like a balcony
[09:00] <abelli> retake your self please
[09:01] <enrico> abelli: it happens
[09:02] <abelli> what about those messages, on erlug :pyblosxom
[09:02] <abelli> what is that, what an attitude
[09:11] <_d4vid> ky all
[09:12] <abelli> _d4vid: ciao
[09:12] <_d4vid> abelli, ciao


[04:59] <pitti> Good morning
[05:30] <vibhav> pitti: ping
[05:30] <pitti> hello vibhav, how are you?
[05:30] <vibhav> I'm fine
[05:31] <vibhav> pitti: btw, I recently wrote a test for libHX, is it the right time to submit it?
[05:31] <vibhav> I mean, we are terribly close to the release
[05:31] <pitti> vibhav: please submit it directly to Debian for nwo
[05:31] <vibhav> sure
[05:31] <pitti> archive is in final freeze, so we won't upload this to raring any more
[05:31] <pitti> vibhav: thanks!
[05:32] <vibhav> alright
[06:45] <dholbach> good morning
[08:00] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, ping
[08:00] <smartboyhw> I'm not sure if it will be easy to add Netboot in
[08:01] <smartboyhw> Since it is NOT in cdimage.ubuntu.com, IIRC.
[08:01] <Noskcaj>  smartboyhw some netboot is in cdimage, some in ports. i forget which.
[08:01] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, the official release*d* ones are in cdimage
[08:01] <Noskcaj> i'll have to go and eat dinner soon, so expect me to dissapear in 5 min
[08:02] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, ok
[08:35] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ and http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ it seems
[08:36] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, yep.
[08:36] <smartboyhw> But remember: We don't currently have this link.
[08:36] <Noskcaj> ?
[08:36] <smartboyhw> Or rather: We don't have archive.ubuntu.com supported
[08:37] <smartboyhw> And it's very difficult:P
[08:37] <smartboyhw> We can't add netboot into the main thing (cdimage.ubuntu.com)
[09:25] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, if we did get netboot into testdrive it would use a heap of extra code. maybe save it for after the hangout and put it in at the same time as cloud
[14:17] <mzanetti> all: https://developers.google.com/google-test-automation-conference/schedule
[14:18] <mzanetti> might contain some useful informations for some of us
[14:18] <mzanetti> (thanks sergiusens)
[15:47] <PaoloRotolo> #ubuntu-motu
[17:00] <plars> anyone on here that's able to reproduce bug #1080701 ?
[18:41] <sparr> A lot of pages on the wiki under /HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops and /LaptopTestingTeam say the old testing data is obsolete and direct me to /Testing/Laptop but all the info I can find there is on submitting test results, not on viewing results already submitted. Am I missing something?
[20:21] <Noskcaj> an interesting little bug for you all, bug 1171613
[20:27] <SergioMeneses> Noskcaj, mmm....
[20:27] <SergioMeneses> Noskcaj, you should add a screenshot
[20:27] <Noskcaj> i will next iso
[20:28] <Noskcaj> i also have to show 1066223 again
[20:29] <SergioMeneses> Noskcaj, is it a bug?
[20:29] <Noskcaj> yeah, bug 1066223, only in kubuntu
[20:31] <SergioMeneses> Noskcaj, last comment was about raring beta1, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1066223/comments/8
[21:39] <SergioMeneses> Noskcaj, around?
[21:40] <SergioMeneses> I was working on bug 1094804 and I got this result -> http://people.ubuntu.com/~sergiomeneses/share/testdrive-kvm-bug.png
[21:46] <Noskcaj> SergioMeneses, i'm here
[21:47] <SergioMeneses> Noskcaj, it says something about an script
[21:47] <SergioMeneses> i'm checking the code right now
[21:54] <Noskcaj> hello mac_
[21:54] <mac_> hey Noskcaj
[21:54] <Noskcaj> do you specifically want autopilot stuff or just helping QA in general
[21:55] <mac_> Just QA in general for now and maybe a more specialized later
[21:57] <Noskcaj> mac_, ok. a few questions that are kind of necessary. 1. how much RAM do you have and what OS (version) Do you have (for each PC). do you have any google nexus devices? 3. do you have a powerpc mac? have you done anything in the community before? do you have any knowledge of coding?
[21:58] <Noskcaj> sorry there so much text
[22:00] <Noskcaj> while you're typing, a quick introduction to everyone (i have an underscore halfway through there names so i don't ping them):
[22:00] <mac_> I have 8gb of ram on my desktop, 2 on my netbook. both have xubuntu final beta 2. both are 64 bit but i can install 32 bit if needed. i have a samsung note not a nexus. first time in the community, and i am a computer science student with 5 years of programming experinece
[22:00] <Noskcaj> bal_loons is head of QA (his name is nicholas
[22:00] <SergioMeneses> Noskcaj, take a look when you can https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/testdrive/+bug/1094804/comments/3
[22:01] <Noskcaj> mac_, ok. iso testing is a good way to start. please install testdrive
[22:01] <SergioMeneses> mac_, welcome!
[22:01] <mac_> thank you :)
[22:02] <mac_> why do i need a vm?
[22:02] <Noskcaj> SergioMeneses, interesting, i'll check what error i get
[22:02] <Noskcaj> mac_, it let's you run many iso's  test's quickly. also, testdrive isn't a VM. i also downloads the iso's for you and can put them on a usb stick
[22:03] <mac_> ok fair enough
[22:03] <mac_> now im just finishing exams for school
[22:03] <Noskcaj> mac_, testdrive is the easiest way to test ISOs. running them on real hardware is idea, but most bugs still appear in a VM
[22:03] <SergioMeneses> mac_, is trying to get involved to quality-team?
[22:03] <mac_> yes i am
[22:05] <Noskcaj> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ is where you report results
[22:05] <Noskcaj> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/WhoWeAre introduces everyone
[22:05] <Noskcaj> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam should have all the info you need
[22:07] <mac_> are new comer's walked through basic QA or is it figure it out for yourself?
[22:09] <Noskcaj> mac_, we try to help them, some prefer not to
[22:10] <mac_> okok
[22:10] <mac_> so is this testing for ubuntu-based distros or just xubuntu?
[22:11] <SergioMeneses> mac_, maybe this could help you https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough
[22:11] <Noskcaj> mac_, all official ubuntu based distros
[22:11] <Noskcaj> phillw, bug 1152306
[22:12] <Noskcaj> mac_, because we release on thursday. please install testdrive then run some iso tests. we'll have more time to show you everything after release
[22:13] <Noskcaj> if you have any questions, ask
[22:13] <mac_> im jsut finishing exams so i wont be able to dedicate myself until Saturday unfortunately
[22:13] <mac_> but after that i plan to jump right in
[22:15] <Noskcaj> mac_, ok. by saturday we will have plenty of time to help
[22:15] <mac_> alright cool :)
[22:16] <phillw> Noskcaj: is it a grey bug, or a red bug?
[22:17] <Noskcaj> phillw, ???
[22:18] <SergioMeneses> phillw, importance -> medium
[22:19] <Noskcaj> phillw, comapre the window theme of live session install, and standard install


[13:32] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu alternate images failed to build today, many of the same errors in the build log:
[13:32] <charlie-tca> W: Failed to fetch file:/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ftp-universe/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[13:32] <charlie-tca> make: *** [apt-update] Error 100
[17:40] <ScottK> charlie-tca: Usually those are transient.  Unless if happens tonight too, I wouldn't worry about it.
[20:03] <charlie-tca> Thanks, ScottK. I didn't know if they would have to do anything to the server to make it work
[20:44] <ScottK> Usually that's just a timing issue where the packages file is out of sync.


[13:50] <Forst> Hello! Got a spammer here that's been posting automated messages for quite a while. User is ~xxx-man82, example of spam posts are here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ru/+bug/470681. Hope this is the right place to report such stuff. Thank you for you attention!
[13:50] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 470681 in Russian Ubuntu Projects "Обновление энциклопедии irc бота ubuntuhelp" [Low,Confirmed]


[05:22] <Unit193> yelp (3.20.1-1ubuntu2) yakkety; urgency=medium
[05:22] <Unit193>   * Make gnome-user-guide or mate-user-guide Suggests. This prevent
[05:22] <Unit193>     gnome-user-guide being installed on Ubuntu MATE and prevents either being
[05:22] <Unit193>     installed on Xubuntu.
[05:22] <Unit193> \o/
[08:38] <flocculant> Unit193: so yakkety on laptop ... still no cursor when coming back from suspend after unlocking, nor when coming back from lock
[18:53] <Unit193> bluesabre: You around?
[18:53] <Unit193> Logan: Heya.
[22:10] <bluesabre> Unit193: what's up?
[22:11] <Unit193> bluesabre: Looking at PPA stats and roadmap, going to push for xfdashy in yak.  Want to review/ack?
[22:11] <bluesabre> Unit193: let's do it
[22:12] <Unit193> It's currently git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+git/xfdashboard (unless you want to drop being maintained in git), just need to update the VCS fields.
[22:18] <bluesabre> debian/* looks good
[22:20]  * bluesabre updates his pbuilder env
[22:21] <Unit193> BTW, did you try out the newer pbuilder, one with eatmydata support?
[22:33] <Unit193> (LP 1598503)
[22:39] <bluesabre> Unit193: forgot about it :D
[22:40] <Unit193> Heh, that's fine, it'd only help you.  I've noticed it speeds up unpackaging build-deps quite a bit.
[22:43] <bluesabre> "As Xubuntu Technical Lead, I agree with adding this to the archive. This application is pretty popular among our users and would certainly be a welcome improvement for them to not have to install it from a PPA. Our team would maintain packaging and fielding bugs and fixes." - Unit193, sound reasonable?
[22:43] <Unit193> Yes, yes it does.  Nicely done, danke.
[22:44] <bluesabre> yay, I did a useful thing
[22:44] <Unit193> Hah, well you've just been doing useful things in Xfce lately, which is good!
[22:51] <Unit193> Docs say we need two MOTU, so we ping Logan and someone else too.


[00:19] <Guest7271> Keyboard not working after shutdown (ASUS Zenbook 13 OLED UM325S)
[00:19] <Guest7271> I just installed ubuntu 20.04 on my new ASUS Zenbook 13 OLED UM325S. Initially, the keyboard was not working during installation time but I try to install it with an external keyboard and it works fine.
[00:19] <Guest7271> I also tried to install packages like:
[00:19] <Guest7271> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-all
[00:19] <Guest7271> But it does not help.
[00:19] <Guest7271> Now the issue is when I power on laptop keyboard is not working. On the login page, I have to click on the restart button after restart keyboard works fine.
[00:19] <Guest7271> Any solution ?
[06:52] <Benett5> hello, how can I stop plasma from automaticly starting after restarts on ubuntu 20.04?
[07:05] <alkisg> Do you mean that you want to boot in text mode?
[07:21] <Benett5> yes
[07:25] <Benett5> don't need to uninstall or remove kde, just want to start to the text mode first
[07:27] <alkisg> Google for: systemd.unit=multi-user.target
[07:44] <Benett5> so I've changed the grub file and switched back to multi-user.target. thx
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:54] <linsux> damn it keeps setting input method to ibus, i don't know what's setting those env
[16:24] <alkisg> linsux: would you like to elaborate? What's the issue?
[16:34] <linsux> i'm not able to use fcitx5
[16:34] <linsux> anyway i fix it
[16:35] <linsux> now my new issue is my skype doesn't save password
[16:35] <linsux> what do i need to make it save skype password
[16:35] <linsux> some security wallet something?
[16:48] <linsux> i have kwallet installed