[00:00] <dr_willis> Ubuntu Stickers   http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718
[00:00] <trism> lunaphyte: but it is in the package gnome-themes-standard if you ever were looking for it
[00:00] <Meris> Oerheks, stickers might look cool, but they tend to come off and leave a nasty sticky residue.
[00:00] <Jordan_U> Troy^: That works as a test too :)
[00:00] <lunaphyte> ah, i see.  you meant if i wanted to use the adwaita theme.
[00:00] <trism> indeed
[00:00] <dr_willis> Meris:  i got some for my keyboard keys - they havent came off yet. :) so it depends on how well they are made.
[00:01] <lunaphyte> trism: understood.  i wonder how it got switched form ambiance to adwaita
[00:01] <lunaphyte> *from
[00:01] <Troy^> Jordan_U: like on average the read speeds are 16MB/s from the external which is more acceptable then 1.2M/s
[00:02] <scanman> i am using ssh to use vlc. when i export=DISPLAY=:0 the video is on my laptop, not the tv connected to it. is there a command to list displays so i can export to the tv :#?    ?? thx.
[00:02] <Meris> dr_willis, true. Well, I don't care about pictures on keys. I use a Mac Keyboard because of the fantastic keys, not for the looks.
[00:03] <dr_willis> scanman:  using twinview? or some other way to get a desktop across both monitors?
[00:03] <Meris> dr_willis, those stickers look great on a convention to show that there are alternatives to Windows, but for the rest?..Hmm
[00:06] <13WABIZXH> Hi guys I get a BUG: Bad page state in process in the kernel occasionally, but it doesn't actually do anything like crash or quit a program.  Is this error bad?
[00:07] <scanman> dr_willis: right now they are individual, i have to drag screens across, trying to use cli only. long reply, yes twinview
[00:09] <pinebei> hi. does anyone know how to move icons around on panel --specifically the clock.
[00:11] <jesse123> man pages are giving me IO errors. time to reboot liveCD?
[00:11] <Meris> jesse123, if you are using a LiveCD, not all manpages you are trying to use may actually be installed.
[00:12] <dr_willis> scanman:  with twinview i Think you can use a  number like display=:0.1      but i cant rember where i even learned abut that.
[00:12] <dr_willis> scanman:  or you could use a tool like devilspie or some of the ccsm setting/plugins to force specific apps to specific window/positions
[00:13] <scanman> dr_willis: lemme try that.1 business
[00:17] <scanman> dr_willis: ran the sam vlc command as always, output is correct. not sure why but will enjoy until it fails. thx for the info tho, i will look into next time.
[00:20] <xraphael> :)
[00:25] <kkrauss> Hey guys, I am running 12.04 with firefox 15.   This might be outside the realm of the channel,and if so I apologize in advance.  My question is: I have installed two different pdf addons into firefox yet every time I go to view a pdf online, it says missing plugin and no suitable plugin found?
[00:27] <alpre> you need more info
[00:27] <kkrauss> like?
[00:27] <alpre> what addons
[00:28] <kkrauss> pdf viewer....
[00:28] <kkrauss> pdf download....
[00:28] <alpre> kkrauss: I just installed epdfview, and firefox opens pdfs in epdfview. Isn't that possible for you?
[00:29] <alpre> no addons
[00:29] <alpre> no acrobat either though
[00:29] <kkrauss> im going to try google docs viewer and see if that works
[00:30] <crypticmofo> hi all im running ubuntu in virtualbox .. i don't like the new look as the icons are on teh left side .. looks like a cruch
[00:30] <crypticmofo> how do i get rid of them ?
[00:30] <kkrauss> so that didn't work either
[00:30] <kkrauss> apparently I am not meant to view this pdf doc
[00:31] <Smackbook1> your pdf might be corrupted
[00:31] <Smackbook1> ive never had a problem with any pdf file
[00:31] <Smackbook1> using any method
[00:31] <kkrauss> ive tried it on a couple of pdfs
[00:32] <Smackbook1> oh hmm
[00:32] <Smackbook1> but if google docs cant open it, it cant be ubuntus fault
[00:32] <beachbum_Bob> kkrauss   just use your default pdf reader that comes with 12.04
[00:32] <crypticmofo> hi all im running ubuntu in virtualbox .. i don't like the new look as the icons are on teh left side .. looks like a cruch
[00:32] <crypticmofo> ?
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> crypticmofo, So what do you want us to do?
[00:33] <kkrauss> basically, I am trying to look at lecture slides from last weeks classes.  It is web based through a craphole interactive web program called Blackboard.
[00:33] <beachbum_Bob> oh
[00:33] <Smackbook1> crypticmofo: thats the new UI crap since last year, you need to choose google classic
[00:33] <jrib> "google" classic -_-
[00:33] <Smackbook1> i mean ubuntu classic
[00:33] <kkrauss> on any of my other systems, including my ubuntu and debian systems on campus, whenever I click on the link to the pdf it opens right up.  On my home ubuntu system it says missing plugin
[00:33] <Smackbook1> lol
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> kkrauss, Blackboard is problematic I have had to use it.
[00:33] <Smackbook1> gnome classic!
[00:34] <Troy^> hmm i'm trying to make a ext4 on my extrnal drive and it is giving me /dev/sdd is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[00:34] <kkrauss> wilee-nilee, blackboard is crap and it amazes me so many uni's use it, however I doubt that is the issue in this case.
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> Troy^, Is it unmounted?
[00:34] <jrib> kkrauss: well is it flash or java?  Install the relevant plug-in
[00:34] <Troy^> wilee-nilee: trying to figure out how to unmount it lol
[00:34] <crypticmofo> Smackbook1 hwo do i do this ?
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> Troy^, Try using gparted, it is a right click.
[00:34] <kkrauss> ahh
[00:35] <Troy^> wilee-nilee: this is all headless
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> ah
[00:35] <kkrauss> being as this is a java class
[00:35] <kkrauss> I am assuming it is java
[00:35] <Smackbook1> crypticmofo: i dont know the steps off the top of my head,  basically you need to install some packages, and then restart and at the login screen when you boot up there is an option to choose your window manager
[00:35] <kkrauss> so its not a pdf reader I need but a java console?
[00:36] <Smackbook1> Smackbook1: youll have to google the specific details
[00:36] <Smackbook1> but thats the process
[00:37] <Smackbook1> or format and install xubuntu, which has the same look as gnome 2
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> kkrauss, If these are multiple pdf's I had to go to the larger menu in the way it was set up at my uni to open ech one, if in a list the first would open but not the next for some reason, just suggeting.
[00:37] <kkrauss> im not sure what is going on with this thing
[00:37] <kkrauss> google docs says it doesnt recognize the file type and doesn't open it properly either
[00:37] <kkrauss> maybe the teacher did someth ign wrong, Ill ask him next sweek
[00:38] <jrib> kkrauss: you said it was web-based
[00:38] <Smackbook1> kkrauss: that definatly sounds like the best plan ;)
[00:38] <kkrauss> yes, I did say it was web based
[00:39] <kkrauss> everytime I click on it it says msising plugin then when I try to find the right one firefox it cannot find one
[00:39] <n1ckn4me09876543> New feature in Ubuntu is the ability to have a "full disk encryption" not just home directory anymore.  My question is, if I encrypt the whole drive, will I still be able to do multi-boot ? like 2-3 O.S. with grub boot loader?
[00:40] <Areckx> HOW COME my terminal says "Got Ice?" on the bottom right????
[00:40] <Areckx> WHAT THE *&(YE&(YF IS THIS!?~!?~?
[00:40] <kkrauss> I think i'm moving onto japanese!
[00:40] <Troy^> argg
[00:40] <Areckx> AM I HACKED~!?!~?~?
[00:40] <Troy^> not letting me create the ext4 on my ext
[00:41] <Areckx> WHAT IS THIS ICE BULL CRAP
[00:41] <Areckx> OH nvm
[00:41] <Areckx> it's my desktop background lmao
[00:41] <Meris> Areckx, let's keep this a family friendly channel, now shall we?
[00:42] <Troy^> i can't seem to get my external usb drive unmounted in order to format
[00:43] <dr_willis> Troy^:  make sure all apps using it are closed.   perhaps even logout?
[00:43] <crypticmofo> hi all
[00:43] <Troy^> dr_willis: just killed them all
[00:43] <dr_willis> Troy^:  make sure no terminals are cd'd into the mount point
[00:43] <n1ckn4me09876543> so does anybody know? about my question with  full HDD encryption
[00:43] <Troy^> fizz@server:/$ sudo umount -l /dev/sdd
[00:43] <Troy^> umount: /dev/sdd: not mounted
[00:44] <dr_willis> n1ckn4me09876543:  i think you need to have grub's /boot/ on a unencrypted partition. I dont find encryption that needed.. unless its on a laptop you may loose.
[00:44] <Troy^> sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdd /dev/sdd is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[00:44] <dr_willis> Troy^:  sure its not sdd1 ?
[00:44] <Meris> Troy^, try sudo lsof | /dev/sdd
[00:45] <Meris> Troy^, try sudo lsof | grep '/dev/sdd '
[00:45] <Meris> Sorry about that omission
[00:45] <Troy^> fizz@server:/$ sudo lsof | /dev/sdd
[00:45] <Troy^> -bash: /dev/sdd: Permission denied
[00:45] <Meris> Troy^,  I'm not surprised :-), try my second line...
[00:46] <Troy^> Meris: mount.ntf  1340       root    3u      BLK       8,49 0x2ba9f2fe000       9314 /dev/sdd1
[00:46] <dr_willis> sdd1 is mount4ed.. not see?
[00:46] <dr_willis> sdd.
[00:46] <Troy^> it wont let me unmount sdd1
[00:47] <dr_willis> id just reboot and set it back to sane defaults... who know what all you have done to the system ;)
[00:47] <Areckx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193765/
[00:47] <Areckx> how do I fix this??
[00:47] <Troy^> fizz@server:/$ sudo umount /dev/sdd1 umount: /dev/sdd1: not mounted
[00:47] <dr_willis> Areckx:  you could at least give a summary of it.
[00:47] <Meris> Troy^, nice, now try the lsof line again: Troy^, try sudo lsof | grep '/dev/sdd '
[00:47] <dr_willis> Areckx:  just pasteing a url - tends to not get a lot of people to look at it just to see if they even know IF they can help
[00:48] <Areckx> dr_willis::  it is a script which converts a youtube video using youtube-dl and converts a selection to a gif
[00:48] <Troy^> Areckx: that is more for #bash
[00:48] <Areckx> TREllis::  they aren't helping...
[00:48] <Areckx> ittroy
[00:48] <Meris> Troy^, Does it still return any processes using /dev/sdd?
[00:48] <Areckx> Troy^::
[00:48] <Areckx> it is a problem with mplayer
[00:48] <Areckx> #mplayer is not helping at all
[00:48] <Areckx> and this is REALLY piissing me off
[00:48] <Troy^> Meris: samething mount.ntf  1340       root    3u      BLK       8,49 0x2ba9f2fe000       9314 /dev/sdd1
[00:48] <crypticmofo> anyone running virtualbox and ubuntu in it ?
[00:49] <Areckx> SO I am asking here too
[00:49] <i7c> crypticmofo: i did some time, what's the problem
[00:49] <Meris> Troy^, please pastebin the output of sudo mount
[00:49] <Areckx> here is the script :: http://pastebin.com/A9fgC5Rr
[00:50] <Areckx> can anyone try to see if they're getting the same errors?
[00:50] <Areckx> I am using Ubuntu 10.04
[00:50] <Troy^> Meris: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193771/
[00:50] <cowsquad> hey guys. Is there any way to add like an application menu on ubuntu 12.04 unity?
[00:50] <Troy^> Meris: /dev/sdd is an external i am unaware if you saw when i explained that as well it is mounted with usbmount
[00:51] <dr_willis> cowsquad:  theres several indicator-applets and i recall an app to put a classic gnome2 type menu at the top of the UNITY left side panel
[00:51] <alpre> Troy^: try the manual of usbmount, I think there is locking mentioned there
[00:51] <alpre> Troy^: if not usbmount, then pmount
[00:52] <dr_willis> cowsquad:  theres a list of indicator-applets at askubuntu.com  and i recall the otehr  i found by searching for 'classic gnome menu unity' at webupd8 or omgubuntu, or askubuntu.com
[00:52] <WeThePeople> hi
[00:52] <cowsquad> dr_willis thank you
[00:52] <dr_willis> http://www.howtogeek.com/105997/how-to-install-the-classic-gnome-menu-in-unity-in-ubuntu-11.10/
[00:52] <dr_willis> cowsquad:  theres like 5 differnt tools/ways
[00:53] <dr_willis> !find classicmenu-indicator
[00:53] <Troy^> alpre: :S
[00:53] <dr_willis> thats the sort of thing they should have put in by default just to save grief and learning of unity ;)
[00:53] <Troy^> alpre: i don't see how pmount would help
[00:54] <dr_willis> cowsquad:  i always have to rember to sort by votes at askubuntu.com   http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[00:55] <cowsquad> dr_willis I am trying your link right now.
[00:55] <dr_willis> cowsquad:  i always check that listing to see what new neat things come out. ;)
[00:56] <cowsquad> dr_willis are you on ubuntu 12.04
[00:56] <Psi-Jack> Everytime I do something with Thunderbird, or receive/send IM's with Pidgin, I keep getting this ANNOYING window prompting: Authentication is required to change user data; An application is attempting to perform an action that requires privileges. Authentication as one of the users below is required to perform this action. (Selections are, my name, and Admin User, which is my UID=1000 user)
[00:57] <Psi-Jack> Really starting to get frustrating.
[00:58] <Meris> Troy^, Sorry, you might try *re*mounting the /dev/sdd1 in a normal mode, that *might* disengage the lock
[00:58] <Troy^> Meris: how do i do that?
[00:59] <emx> i want to automount a usb stick in the file browser. when i click on the icon i get the message that i am not authorised. the user is in the group disk. what is missing?
[00:59] <Psi-Jack> emx: You need to be in the plugdev group
[00:59] <dr_willis> !info cardapio
[01:00] <emx> Psi-Jack, the user is also in the plugdev group
[01:00] <dr_willis> cowsquad:  on 12.10 right now..  cardapio is an app that lets you have a 'menu' on a button on the left side panel..
[01:00] <dr_willis> http://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/very-nice-gnome-menu-in-ubunty-oneiric-11-10-unity-panel/
[01:00] <Meris> Troy^,  mount -o remount [the desired options] . Just be sure that you use the type ntfs-3g as mount-type
[01:01] <F4810> ola alguem fala portugues?
[01:01] <cowsquad> dr_willis how did you upgraded to quantun quetzal?
[01:01] <Meris> !pt | F4810
[01:01] <aaron_np> Hi is this the right place to ask a noob question?
[01:02] <dr_willis> cowsquad:  i dident.. i always do clean installs.
[01:02] <cowsquad> i follow instructions on ubuntuforums, but i did not get the upgrade option on Update Manager
[01:02] <dr_willis> https://launchpad.net/cardapio   is a tool for a gnome-like menu in the left side panel
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> cowsquad, you know its in develoment still?
[01:02] <Troy^> Meris: sudo mount -o remount ntfs-3g /dev/sdd1
[01:03] <cowsquad> dr_willis oh, so you installed it clean. Oh yeah is in beta 1. How is it working for you
[01:03] <Meris> Troy^, not complete, the mount point is missing.
[01:03] <Troy^> ok it took it
[01:03] <Troy^> but hasn't changed anything
[01:04] <dr_willis> cowsquad:  no real issues.  has good days and bad. ;)
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> cowsquad, you probably need to go to softwrae sorces and set it as any release, to see the 12.10.
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> software sources*
[01:04] <Meris> Troy^,  that is logical, because the mount point is still the same...
[01:04] <nate__> curious why does startx -- :1,2,3,...etc work at the terminal ctrl+alt+f1 but not in the virtual terminals under gnome . Is there away to startx in those terminals ?
[01:05] <Meris> Troy^, does the mounted /dev/sdd1 show up on sudo mount ?
[01:05] <nate__>  anybody know?
[01:05] <cowsquad> wilee-nilee, I had, but i keep checking and it wont show me the upgrade. lAME
[01:05] <Troy^> Meris: nope
[01:05] <aaron_np> what is a good channel for noob questions?
[01:05] <dr_willis> nate__:  i seem to recall starting them from a X session befor.. but been years since ive even needed to have several X sessions going
[01:06] <dr_willis> !info xnest
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> aaron_np, You are in the right place if it is Ubuntu.
[01:06] <Meris> aaron_np, no objections against "noob" questions, as long as you searched a bit around before coming to this channel for help. Just ask your question
[01:06] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee: ok thnks
[01:06] <dr_willis> nate__:  i seem to recall some way to start a new X session  that would run the login manager.. had to start it as root some how.. (been years since i did it)
[01:07] <Meris> Troy^, sorry, tried everything, I'm out of options. Very strange that the drive doesn't show up in the mount list.
[01:07] <nate__> how did you do this becuase i am curious why startx -- :1 doesn't
[01:07] <WeThePeople> would 12.04 work in VM
[01:07] <nate__> in a virtual terminal
[01:07] <dr_willis> nate__:  i dont recall.. its been at least 2+ years since i last did it.
[01:08] <Meris> nate__, startx can only be called with a parameter that assigns a console as new X-session.
[01:08] <dr_willis> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[01:08] <Meris> nate__, to be exact, it is the display parameter
[01:08] <dr_willis> startx is a script that does a lot of things then launches the X server. ;)
[01:08] <nate__> i think i must be a file lock or something that is not in the console
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> WeThePeople, Should.
[01:09] <dr_willis> You cant even do a 'startx --help' from a xterm it seems. ;)
[01:10] <dr_willis> I seem to recall ages ago GDM or Gnome or some menus had a item to spawn a new X session.
[01:10] <aaron_np> Ok noob Q: My system currently has ubuntu 12.04 64bits and I want to install ubuntu on a new hd but the machine doesn't have cd/dvd and wont boot into usb drive for some reason, is there a way I can install ubuntu from on a separete hdd from ubuntu?
[01:10] <aaron_np> any help is appreciated
[01:10] <dr_willis> aaron_np:  you can clone the current install to a 2nd hard drive  and move the HD over.. or set up a netboot feature to install over the network.
[01:10] <nate__> sorry my mistake it works with :2 but not :1 where it works in console werid but ok
[01:10] <Meris> nate__, that is not the problem. The problem is that an  x-terminal already has the DISPLAY variable defined. you can export the new DISPLAY variable and *then* call startx, that should work, just keep in mind that startx without parameters only starts bare X-windows.
[01:10] <gabrieluk> hi, how can change the browser associated with html files?
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> aaron_np, Are you familiar with the boot from outside the bios for the usb, if it booots a usb?
[01:11] <nate__> no , it works when I sudo startx -- :2
[01:11] <dr_willis> nate__:  i wonder if theres not some X server/lock crashed and keeping :1  occupied.
[01:11] <aaron_np> dr_willis: I cant clone as I have a smaller hdd and I also want to start from scratch
[01:11] <dr_willis> since the initial desktop is :0
[01:12] <dr_willis> aaron_np:  netboot/netinstalls are handy
[01:12] <dr_willis> night all.
[01:12] <Meris> nate__, nice, what console did it get assigned to? Console 8 ?
[01:12] <nate__> yes
[01:12] <nate__> 8
[01:13] <Meris> nate__, I'm curious, why do you need a a second X-session?
[01:13] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee: for some reason it wont letme boot from usb, I have tried all usb boot options but no luck
[01:13] <Troy^> Meris: anything to do with usbmount?
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> aaron_np, Does all options include the one I mention?
[01:14] <Meris> Troy^, I'm not really familiar with usbmount, so I'm not sure how I can help you. Sorry, about that.
[01:14] <aaron_np> I've never tried the net boot/net install
[01:14] <nate__> makes it easier in some cases to have a fresh desktop, gives you the illusion of to users. Plus some times it is better then multiple workstations ... as well as you can connect remotely to it
[01:14] <gabrieluk> is it good to install 'ubuntu tweak'?
[01:15] <gabrieluk> is this the correct ppa? ppa:ubuntu-tweak-testing/ppa
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> gabrieluk, That is the test use the stable.
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> https://launchpad.net/~tualatrix/+archive/ppa
[01:16] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee, I get a loot of boot uptions on the bios (F12 at boot for my computer) but none seems to accept the usb tumbdrive
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> aaron_np, It may just be a bad load or loader app that is in your way or a bad ISO, have you done a md5sum check
[01:18] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee, dr_willis, so no options to install from an existing ubuntu hdd then?
, thanks
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> aaron_np, the posibilty is there, but I doubt that is really needed, besides isn't the HD a usb?
[01:18] <Meris> nate__, I wonder, could you run two X on two separate users that way? I'd like to start another session in English next to my default Dutch one. Would that be possible?
[01:19] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee, I thought about it but then i booted my lapttop with it and boots poerfectly
[01:19] <Troy^> Meris: usbmount be also cause of bottleneck i mean usb drives can be handed mounted and entered into fstab right? therefore if i just remove usbmount?
[01:20] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee, the hdd is a sata drive
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> aaron_np, You mean you booted your laptop with it plugged in or the HD has a OS that it will boot with, if so what is the OS?
[01:21] <Meris> Troy^, as said before, I'm not familar with usbmount. I am an eager learner however and I'd love to see how you can get out of this mess. In fact I don't even have usbmount installed on my system
[01:21] <WeThePeople> after support for 10.04 has ended for desktop will it be worth to keep around
[01:21] <WeThePeople> to keep using what are the cons
[01:21] <Troy^> Meris: correct it is third party install.. I just removed and did a reboot we will see when it comes back up
[01:22] <cowsquad> how do I remove ppa from ubuntu?
[01:22] <WeThePeople> cowsquad, use synaptic
[01:22] <Meris> Troy^, Good luck in your endeavours.
[01:22] <cowsquad> WethePeople I am, but I cant figure out
[01:23] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee, my laptop has dual boot win7/ubuntu but What I mentiuoned is that itried to boot using the same usb drive and boots just fine, the problem is on my desktop who refuses to boot from the usb thus the need to use my existing ubuntu dririve to install on the other hdd
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> cowsquad, IF you want all of it removed read carefully. http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/01/10/how-to-safely-remove-ppa-repository-from-ubuntu/
[01:23] <theixle> Does anyone know how to fix asus 1215N atheros nic problems? I've tried installing compat-wireless already.
[01:23] <cowsquad> thanks wilee-nilee
[01:24] <Troy^> Meris: there working now it is formating
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> aaron_np, Honestly I think your usb will work, but you do not and want to try a even harder may boot idea, I can't really help there sorry.
[01:25] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee, I guess I'll need to rtfm for the netboot
[01:25] <Guest22959>  I am trying to install R, it is in tarball form I used the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo unsuccessfully. I run into errors when I try to create a common directory
[01:25] <WeThePeople> theixle, see #ubuntu-server
[01:26] <Troy^> Meris: success lol
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> Guest22959, Do not ask on multiple channels.
[01:26] <Meris> Troy^, nice... :-) It was an interesting analysis though.
[01:26] <Nodd> are there any extensions that give more control, when copying files in nautilus? like pausing certain files in a queue?
[01:26] <theixle> wethepeople: Server huh? I'm running a desktop (netbook) machine fwiw.
[01:26] <TJ-> aaron_np: There's a way - unusual - but uses standard installer. On Windows create a virtual machine and map the boot drive into it, then boot the VM from an Ubuntu LiveCD ISO image (attached to the VM's CD-ROM device). If you use Windows Disk Management to first shrink the Windows partitions to leave around 10GB free space on the boot drive, you can install into that using Ubuntu without Ubuntu needing to touch the Windows partitions that are currently in use.
[01:26] <WeThePeople> ahh
[01:26] <jrib> Guest22959: R is in the repositories.  Use APT
[01:27] <Meris> Guest22959, please change your nick to something meaningful, it is bothersome for the autocompletion, if someone wants to chat with you.
[01:27] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee, I thought so too however it is not :/
[01:28] <Troy^> Meris: now i can't seem to get the UUID of the drive and add it to my fstab
[01:28] <Guest22959> jrib: could you elaborate on your response
[01:28] <trter10> hey guys if i increase my install size with wubi to 30 gbs how much would i have to use (not used by OS)?
[01:29] <jrib> Guest22959: are you familiar with how to install software in ubuntu using Software Manager?
[01:29] <Guest22959> Jrib: No I am not, but if you could point me to a guide I would appreciate it greatly
[01:29] <Troy^> fdisk -l Disk Disk identifier: 0x00000000 /dev/sdd doesn't contain a valid partition table
[01:30] <jrib> !software | Guest22959
[01:30] <TJ-> aaron_np: For your USB not-found-by-BIOS issue, there's a couple of things you might check (if you haven't already). 1. BIOS enabling USB devices (usually in the chipset and related settings areas), and 2. Some ports aren't (often the front ports) aren't activated by the BIOS on some motherboards... have you tried the USB in the rear motherboard USB ports when booting?
[01:30] <Meris> Troy^, because it's an USB-drive, you cannot detect the drive straight away, you'll need to identify the type of (S)ATA chipset on your USB drive in order to get to the details. You can usually find the type from the lsusb output.
[01:30] <jrib> Guest22959: you probably want the r-base or r-recommended packages
[01:31] <Troy^> Meris the does not have a valid partition table scares me
[01:31] <adamjm> \wc
[01:31] <Guest22959> Jrib and ubottu thank you so much I really appreciate it
[01:31] <gabrieluk> I have a sony vaio laptop vgn-ns30e and lucid 10.04 desktop installed. i'm having a hard time with alsa audio. it was blowing my ears, very bad quality sound. i found the solution of creating a .asoundrc file and inserting defaults.pcm.rate_converter "samplerate_best" pcm.!default {type plug slave.pcm {type dmixipc_key 1024slave {pcm "hw:0,0"rate 48000}}}. the sound is a BIT better, not a lot, but now alsa volume controls doesn't work, and so
[01:31] <gabrieluk> me apps(google chrome) don't play sound from youtube. any better solution?]
[01:32] <DG_> guys! oh noez!
[01:33] <whallz> hi, i need help, i dist-upgraded to 12.04.1, and now i have continuous crashes, for eg, i did a 'tilda & exit' in a gnome terminal and everything froze
[01:33] <whallz> i installed gnome3
[01:33] <Meris> Troy^, in that case the usbmount program might have mucked about in the partition table. First of all, stay calm and try to get any data you *can* get on the present partitioning. Don't rush itl, especially not if the other partitions contain important data
[01:33] <whallz> also, i'd like to completely remove compiz, how do i do that?
[01:35] <Troy^> Meris: everything on the drive has been backed up
[01:35] <Meris> whallz, you can remove Compiz with sudo apt-get remove Compiz, but a lot of things depend on Compiz. Unity3D for instance...
[01:35] <Meris> whallz, you can remove Compiz with sudo apt-get remove compiz, but a lot of things depend on Compiz. Unity3D for instance...
[01:35] <gabrieluk> any ideas on my issue with sound?
[01:35] <Meris> whallz, ^Slight typo there, sorry
[01:36] <whallz> Meris: ty
[01:36] <TJ-> gabrieluk: The only thing I can find related is this, if you read down it talks about losing all ALSA in/out ... and a comment says the issue was fixed using the same method on the same model as you have. http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/221
[01:36] <shadedpixel> Are there any good plug n' play USB wifi adapters that work well with ubuntu (or just linux in general) and without ndiswrapper?
[01:36] <whallz> any ideas on why the crashes? did the kernel upgrade broke something??
[01:36] <xangua> !hardware | shadedpixel
[01:37] <Meris> Troy^, in that case you can make a new partition table in for example gparted, or just parted (for the console version)
[01:37] <shadedpixel> ubottu, ive already looked there. There is a big list but Id like to know what works best from a consumer perspective
[01:38] <Meris> Troy^, (g)parted should take care of the hassles of unmounting your USB drive and give you an easy access to it so you can repartition it.
[01:38] <shadedpixel> Are there any good plug n' play USB wifi adapters that work well with ubuntu (or just linux in general) and without ndiswrapper?
[01:39] <Meris> shadepixel. Umm, ubottu is a bot, not a person ;-) It *is* a very helpful and advanced bot, but still a bot...
[01:39] <shadedpixel> Meris, i know that :D
[01:40] <Meris> shadedpixel, wel, just in case  >Grin<
[01:40] <gabrieluk> TJ-, should i still use .asoundrc? that issue was with the mic, i don't have issues with, i have issues with a horrible sound quality. the thing about alsa not having controls working is minor, the worst is the quality
[01:40] <Meris> shadedpixel, wel => well
[01:40] <TJ-> Meris: Troy^  usbmount won't damage anything; it is an auto-mounter utilising udev for servers and non-Gnome systems. I use it on a server.
[01:41] <Meris> TJ-, another thing learned, thanks :-)
[01:42] <Meris> TJ-, Troy^ had quite some trouble getting it to umount a drive. Maybe you have some more advice for him/ her.
[01:42] <zymaster> Hey does anyone know an alternative to iDisplay for Linux? I want to use my hp touchpad running cyanogenmod ice cream sandwich as a second monitor for my ubuntu laptop.
[01:42] <xangua> shadedpixel: someone mentioned this page some weeks ago https://www.thinkpenguin.com/
[01:42] <TJ-> GabrieleV: I was looking at the 2nd part of that article, where it talks about sound being lost totally and points to some packages that can help fix issues. That article is old so the referenced PPA and packages may no longer be available, but as you're still on 10.04 that's probably the only place to find fixed drivers. It's worth testing your PC with a 12.04 LiveCD see if the sound works for the current LTS
[01:43] <iceroot> zymaster: synergie can maybe do that
[01:43] <zymaster> iceroot: Ok cool how to use?
[01:44] <iceroot> zymaster: first have a look at google if that is what you need (luckily) i dont know that apple-stuff you mentioned
[01:44] <Troy^> TJ-: is there no other way to mount an ext hd? in ubuntu server? other then usbmount?
[01:44] <iceroot> Troy^: the normal mount command
[01:44] <Troy^> is there a way to get a uuid iceroot to put it in fstab
[01:44] <iceroot> Troy^: or are you talking about automount?
[01:44] <iceroot> Troy^: sudo blkid
[01:45] <Troy^> iceroot: does not work for external
[01:45] <iceroot> Troy^: of course its working for externals
[01:45] <iceroot> Troy^: when you connect it it will listed as /dev/sdX and every /dev/sdX will be shown by blkid
[01:46] <iceroot> Troy^: tested it 10 seconds ago with my sc card
[01:46] <TJ-> Meris: Troy^ When you install usbmount it adds a rule to udev to match certain types of devices (/lib/udev/rules.d/usbmount.rules) which fires the script "/etc/usbmount/mount.d/00_create_model_symlink" and (on unmount) "/etc/usbmount/umount.d/00_remove_model_symlink". Configuration is in "/etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf".  It mounts devices to /media/usb{0-7} if the file-systems in the partitions match those in its config FILESYSTEMS variable.
[01:47] <Troy^> TJ-: i removed usbmount
[01:47] <zymaster> iceroot: I basically hacked android on to my hp touchpad running web os. I hate apple
[01:47] <iceroot> zymaster: sounds good
[01:47] <DG_> WHO LIKES APPLE?
[01:47] <iceroot> zymaster: both
[01:47] <DG_> woah sorry
[01:47] <DG_> :O
[01:47] <FloodBot1> DG_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:47] <DG_> who likes apple anyways
[01:48] <iceroot> DG_: this channel is about free and open source and apple has nothing to do with freedom, so please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:48] <zymaster> DG_: No one on this channel could possibly like apple
[01:48] <Meris> DG, I like some Apple products, like my MacBook from 2007 and my Apple aluminum keyboard I am typing on right now.  Lol jk
[01:49] <DG_> so thin and sexy
[01:49] <DG_> :P
[01:49] <TJ-> Troy^: iceroot Troy^ Actually, blkid won't return anything for raw device files (/dev/sda); only for file-systems/LVM/MD/RAID (/dev/sda1)
[01:49] <DG_> same zymaster
[01:49] <Meris> DG, but this is not the channel to discuss that, use #ubuntu-ot for that
[01:50] <bazhang> !ot | DG_
[01:50] <iceroot> TJ-: so there is no partition on that drive?
[01:50] <Meris> zymaster, actually I'm not running Ubuntu on that MacBook, due to problems with tripleboot. But again, this topic is not for this channel
[01:50] <DG_> ok well i need support anyways
[01:50] <DG_> i installed ubuntu
[01:50] <iceroot> TJ-: sda1 is nothing else then a partition (doesnt matter if there is a filesystem)
[01:51] <bazhang> !enter | DG_
[01:51] <zymaster> Meris: I will attempt to suppress my anger. Again jk
[01:51] <gabrieluk> how can i improve audio quality from my ubuntu 10.04 machine?in windows was fine,  now i feel nausea and a wierd feeling in my ears(like my head was going to explode)
[01:51] <DG_> lol sorry its a habit, a very bad one. i installed ubuntu and windows 7 went poof :O idk how to boot back into it
[01:52] <Meris> TJ-, thanks for the explanation about usbmount. Appreciate it :-)
[01:52] <Sajan> gabrieluk, stop listening to that new fangled techno music!
[01:52] <TJ-> iceroot: blkid recognises the file-system markers. You run it against a raw device that isn't a file-system it won't return anything - there's no UUID, label, etc
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> DG_  Is this a Ubuntu install from Windows or a booted usb/cd?
[01:52] <Sajan> gabrieluk, you're going to have to be a bit more specific as to the problem.
[01:53] <gabrieluk> Sajan, is not about techno, is about the rubish sound quality comming from ubuntu.
[01:53] <iceroot> TJ-: /dev/sda6: UUID="60f19771-8987-4078-9c8c-59fd92fd07fe" TYPE="swap"
[01:53] <gabrieluk> Sajan, mre specefic? are you joking?
[01:53] <iceroot> TJ-: you know that "swap" has not filesystem?
[01:53] <DG_> i installed windows from a CD
[01:53] <DG_> oh shit i mean i installed ubuntu
[01:53] <Meris> zymaster, you are welcome to discuss this issue on #ubuntu-offtopic, in fact I'm inviting you ;-)
[01:53] <iceroot> TJ-: blkid is just reading the block device attributes definded by the partition table
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> DG_, Have you run sudo update-grub in ubuntu to see if windows is added to the grub menu?
[01:53] <iceroot> TJ-: for more informations see "man blkid"
[01:54] <DG_> yeahhh... what?
[01:54] <zymaster> Meris: No I should not try to fight ubuntu/linux anymore. It makes me no different than Apple fanboys. Lol
[01:54] <gabrieluk> Sajan, so one tell you that the music is causing nausea and unpleasant feeling on his ears and it is not enough? if i go to windows, in the same machine, i do not feel that
[01:54] <iceroot> TJ-: when sudo blkid is not shoding the uuid for your external drives there can be two reasons, you dont have partitions or the device is not detected correctly (see dmesg)
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> !who > DG_
[01:54] <Sajan> gabrieluk, not joking.  Are you listening through speakers? headset? usb? line out?...what software are you playing back from? is it everything? ...yeah, more specific please.
[01:55] <Sajan> gabrieluk, you feeling nausea is a medical issue.  Go see a doctor.  That's not a symptom anyone here can lead back to Ubuntu and help solve.
[01:55] <TJ-> iceroot:  wrong, it reads the meta-data written by the file-system creator
[01:55] <iceroot> TJ-: swap has no filesystem!!
[01:55] <iceroot> TJ-: so what file-system infos should be read there?
[01:55] <gabrieluk> Sajan, you are ridiculous mate, i know there's an issue with sound on linux, you cannot hide it
[01:55] <wan26> !who > wan26
[01:55] <DG_> wilee-nilee: i have no clue what any of that means i JUST installed ubuntu and never had any past experience i just wanted it because it was good for this oldddd computer
[01:55] <Meris> zymaster, don't worry, I was not about to tempt you to the dark side. I just wanted to explain a few things why I made these choices as a linux enthousiast.
[01:55] <bazhang> gabrieluk, so file a bug
[01:56] <bazhang> !bugs | gabrieluk
[01:56] <TJ-> iceroot: it has metadata (mkswap writes a header)
[01:56] <iceroot> TJ-: the kernel is detecting the partiton layout and will create block devices like sda1 sda2 and sdb1 and that is what blkid is reading
[01:56] <bazhang> gabrieluk, and refrain from the name calling
[01:56] <zymaster> Meris: Do what you want to do. I really don't care I was just joking around
[01:57] <Meris> zymaster, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> DG_, YOU are using the grub bootloader that ubuntu uses right.  In order to update it it if a OS is missing you would run in the ubuntu terminal sudo update-grub.  You say Windows is gone, is it gone from the HD overwritten or just the bot menu?
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> boot*
[01:57] <scott_z> how do i determine what /dev/h?? my sd card slot is?
[01:57] <Sajan> gabrieluk, Nobody is trying to hide anything.  You have to tell us what the problem is.  If the problem is that you feel nauseated, that's a medical issue.  Nobody here can do anything to your computer to fix that.  If someone is CAUSING the nausea, you'll have to be more specific than 'rubbish sound' so we can help troubleshoot.
[01:58] <iceroot> TJ-: will have a look at it, thanks for the info
[01:58] <Shenmue> anyone dominate nmap?
[01:58] <zymaster> Meris: One of us needs to stop responding lol I don't really want to discuss this anymore but I feel the need to respond for some reason
[01:58] <bazhang> !ot | zymaster
[01:58] <Meris> zymaster, allright, I'll stop :-)
[01:58] <bazhang> Shenmue, just ask the channel
[01:58] <iceroot> TJ-: ah ok internally its using "findfs"
[01:59] <DG_> Wilee-nilee i honestly have no clue im assuming the grub bootloader is the purple screen, i still have the whole partition with windows and all the files are still there it just doesnt show in the boot menu
[01:59] <gabrieluk> Sajan, again, you are a troll and ridiculous, i don't have any medical issue or condition, if i go to windows, in the same machine(i have dual boot) i don't feel nauseas because of the sound. if you don't have nothing nice to say just shut up
[01:59] <bazhang> gabrieluk, thats enough. stop it.
[01:59] <gabrieluk> bazhang, this guy is trolling at me
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> DG_, Are you able to get to the ubuntu desktop?
[02:00] <zymaster> Hey Iam going to go back on topic, does anyone know a real way to use an android tablet as a second monitor with ubuntu. As far as I understand synergy just shares mouse and keyboard.
[02:01] <DG_> wilee-nilee i can ONLY boot into ubuntu, ubuntu recovery mode and two other weird things i think they said mem check?
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> DG_, Have you opened a terminal in Ubuntu and run this command sudo update-grub    It helps to know this and if you removed any partitions when installing Ubuntu.
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> or resized windows with the ubuntu install DG_
[02:03] <hfic> !dualboot
[02:04] <DG_> wilee-nilee i made the partition through the installer, it showed my partition with windows 7 which is 150 or so gigs and i took 25 and made it into a new parition and it installed, i have no clue how to code and all that stuf. I installed ubuntu because i liked the look and feel of it
[02:05] <DG_> actually brb ill try running that code through
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> DG_, copy and paste this command to a ubuntu terminal. The terminal is in the menu.  sudo update-grub    then hit enter put in the password it will not show and look at the terminal and see if windows shows in the grub list
[02:06] <DG_> ok thanks
[02:06] <DG_> control v to paste right?
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> DG_, I just use a right click copy and paste not sure to be honest
[02:06] <Meris> DG_, Shift-Ins works as well.
[02:06] <DG_> ok thanks
[02:06] <DG_> ill be back in a sec
[02:08] <cowsquad> Should I tried ubuntu quetzal? any thoughts?
[02:08] <Meris> How can I start another X-session complete with LightDM and the whole shebang from a vterm logged in as a normal user, or is this impossible?
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> cowsquad, the channel you want is #uibuntu+1
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> #ubuntu+1
[02:08] <cowsquad> thank you man
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> np
[02:09] <elijah> Hey guys, accidentally removed myself from all groups, now I cannot sudo anything. How can run a command to fix it without logging out?
[02:10] <hfic> elijah, you can't
[02:10] <elijah> hfic: :/
[02:10] <DG_> back
[02:10] <elijah> well, at least it isn't a server, lol
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> elijah, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[02:10] <hfic> elijah, unless you have another sudo user. You can readd yourself, if not easiest way is to edit it with a livecd
[02:11] <DG_> wilee-nilee i put it in and it said "sudo" is not recognized
[02:11] <pepperjack> elijah: i usually boot into single user shell then mount -o remount,rw / to remount root writable
[02:11] <DG_> or it is not a command
[02:12] <veryhappy> hi guys need your help. i installed a few days before ubuntu 32 bit on my external harddrive but now i'm anyhow sick of it. i actually planned to have a portable linux but since i notice that nearly no notebooks or pcs that i use work only with 32 bit but also with 64 bit i ask me shouldn't i go for 64 bit now?
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> DG_, This is the admin account right, or a second standard account? If you don't make the cammond exactly as I posted it you will get errors as well, check that.
[02:12] <veryhappy> it's anyhow a little bit too slow sometimes
[02:13] <DG_> i put in sudo grub-update i only have one account im a beginner man i wouldnt know :/
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> DG_, It is sudo update-grub
[02:13] <TJ-> veryhappy: 64-bit is good for 2GB RAM+
[02:13] <elijah> wilee-nilee: hfic pepperjack - thanks guys
[02:13] <Meris> veryhappy, if it's too slow, try a lighter Desktop Environment, like Lubuntu
[02:13] <DG_> well shit im stupid
[02:13] <DG_> brb again
[02:13] <Meris> !lubuntu | veryhappy
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> lol who isn't
[02:14] <TJ-> veryhappy: A 32-bit *and* 64-bit kernel with just a 32-bit user-space is often a good idea for portable drives (USB sticks) to make booting possible on all x86 architectures
[02:14] <veryhappy> no not at all i'm happy with my kde and btw this computer here was built 2009+
[02:16] <Meris> veryhappy, my computer was built in 2008, but it's still very fast for what I use it for.
[02:16] <veryhappy> ok other question would it hurt to go for 64 bit and not be able to use EVERY computer when it doesn't support 64 bit?
[02:16] <veryhappy> the system ^^
[02:17] <Meris> veryhappy, for a portable USB-stick I would be conservative and go with 32 Bit instead; especially when you want to run it on multiple computers.
[02:17] <TJ-> veryhappy: If the system doesn't have more than 4GB of RAM, 64-bit will impose a space penalty since addresses used in programs in RAM take up double the space of 32-bit
[02:18] <TJ-> veryhappy: but 64-bit CPUs have more general purpose registers so many programs (if compiled correctly) can benefit from fast execution times since the CPU doesn't have to keep storing variables in memory
[02:19] <veryhappy> this is NOT a usb stick this is a portable HDD 2.5" for example why did my flightgear run like a charm and on 32 it's lagging?
[02:19] <DG_> wilee-nilee "sudo" is an unrecognized command
[02:19] <Meris> veryhappy, perhaps flightgear is optimized for 64-bit?
[02:19] <DG_> i cant do anything
[02:20] <veryhappy> Meris: i didn't know that
[02:20] <TJ-> veryhappy: Can't answer that - maybe the open source non-acelerated 3D driver was being used?
[02:20] <veryhappy> i don't know as well
[02:20] <Meris> veryhappy, I don't *know* it either, it is just a possibility, nothing more
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> DG_, Not sure what to say that command and the word sudo which gives you super user access always work.
[02:20] <veryhappy> ok
[02:21] <TJ-> veryhappy: How do you connect the external hard disk to the PC? USB? eSATA? Firewire?
[02:21] <veryhappy> USB.
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> DG_, I assume your not running in root say from recovery.
[02:21] <pepperjack> DG_: are you working in the normal ubuntu desktop with a terminal open?  you have the graphical desktop and can launch a browser and stuff?
[02:21] <king_cobra> how do you reclaim unallocated space on HD?
[02:21] <Meris> DG_, maybe your PATH variable is messed up?
[02:22] <truemove> king_cobra: gparted?
[02:22] <TJ-> veryhappy: OK, if that's USB2 then the maxmium transfer rate on a good day may well be less than 30MB/sec (theoretical maximum is 45MB/sec)
[02:22] <veryhappy> can i install ubuntu right now without losing all settings that are already made and can i instruct grub to boot a file instead of a drive that i use with dd?
[02:22] <king_cobra> ya
[02:22] <DG_> wilee-nilee OMG what? lmao i thought i was supposed to be doing this through the grub bootloader command prompt
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> DG_, I have been very clear that the terminal is run from the desktop, I said the terminal was found in the menu.
[02:23] <DG_> yeah i know you have
[02:24] <DG_> im just very stupid
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> hehe join the club
[02:24] <DG_> no matter how clear you say it
[02:24] <DG_> ill never get it
[02:24] <DG_> now how do i open the command window!
[02:24] <king_cobra> I deleted mint from the HD using gparted, now that it's gone i have 15.5 gb unallocated on HD.. and i want that space back for my ubuntu 12
[02:24] <hfic> DG_, if you don't get it ..you don't get your windows back.
[02:24] <DG_> LOL
[02:24] <Meris> How can I start another X-session complete with LightDM and the whole shebang from a vterm logged in as a normal user, or is this impossible?
[02:24] <DG_> BUT I MISS MY WINDOWS!
[02:25] <truemove> king_cobra:  just use gparted and extent you ubuntu part
[02:25] <truemove> eas
[02:25] <truemove> easy
[02:25] <wan26> DG_, try pressing ctrl+alt+t together
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> DG_, If you have the panel on the left of the ndesktop hit the top button and type terminal and choose that to open and run that command sudo update-grub
[02:25] <DG_> wn26 thanks :)
[02:25] <DG_> wan*
[02:25] <king_cobra> ok
[02:26] <pepperjack> DG_: dont be intimidated by the repairing grub and other stuff.  its mostly just googling for instructions and pasting a few commands.  most everything for ubuntu is documented in a tutorial :)
[02:26] <DG_> its not letting me type in my password wat dah eff
[02:26] <Meris> king_cobra, be sure to make a backup first if you do not have a separate /home partition!
[02:26] <veryhappy> can i boot an iso directly with grub?
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> DG_, YOU wont see it just type it and hit enter
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> veryhappy, yes
[02:27] <veryhappy> wilee-nilee:  how?
[02:27] <veryhappy> wilee-nilee: well just give me a link
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> veryhappy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[02:28] <veryhappy> thanks
[02:28] <DG_> wilee-nilee it said it found some things :/ now what
[02:28] <veryhappy> see ya
[02:28] <veryhappy> tc
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> DG_, are in those things a windows stanza?
[02:29] <DG_> linux image, initrd image memtest86+ and windows 8 loader but i have windows 7
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> DG_, That could be for any number of reasons if you only have W7 and Ubuntu I would just reboot it and in that grub menu should be windows now boot to it to see if it works, so reboot.
[02:30] <natsirt> http://imgur.com/hjpc8
[02:30] <DG_> ok brb :)
[02:31] <horny-sama> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12227183#post12227183
[02:31] <horny-sama> help
[02:32] <king_cobra> k
[02:34] <horny-sama> anyone?
[02:34] <horny-sama> please help
[02:34] <horny-sama> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12227183#post12227183
[02:34] <natsirt> not with that handle
[02:34] <natsirt> it offends me
[02:35] <horny-sama> natsirt: come on
[02:36] <mr-fool> I need some help
[02:36] <mr-fool> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12227183#post12227183
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> mr-fool, You do not mention any specific problem.
[02:37] <natsirt> mr-fool: I know of a script. But the last time i posted one i got in trouble
[02:38] <DG_> *bows down* thanks wilee-nilee
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> DG_, cool your in.
[02:38] <chris59> Hello, since upgrading to 12.04 my mouse has been slow to be recognized. It takes about 30 secs after my desktop appears before my mouse is responsive. It's a Logitech mouse I have had for years and was fine in previous versions.
[02:38] <mr-fool> wilee-nilee: the problem is I can't get the sound card working
[02:38] <mr-fool> no sound
[02:38] <DG_> turns out it was mislabeled as windows 8
[02:39] <mr-fool> natsirt: seriously?
[02:39] <natsirt> yes
[02:39] <DG_> then again
[02:39] <DG_> im realizing how much faster ubuntu is
[02:39] <DG_> the boot time took FOREVER
[02:39] <mr-fool> post it on pastebin??
[02:39] <mr-fool> what kind of trouble?
[02:40] <natsirt> mr-fool: problem?
[02:41] <elijah> Hey guys, can someone do a "groups yourusername" and tell me if "root" is in that list?
[02:41] <elijah> I have restored all groups but am still having sudo issues
[02:41] <Gycklarn> gycklarn@vain ~ $ groups gycklarn
[02:41] <Gycklarn> gycklarn : gycklarn printadmin
[02:42] <mr-fool> natsirt: just post it on pastebin so I can use it?
[02:42] <mr-fool> problem solved?
[02:42] <elijah> I think the default user groups are "adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[02:42] <elijah> "
[02:43] <TJ-> elijah: root should never be in a regular-user's groups list
[02:43] <elijah> I have a vbox server but the groups are different on that.
[02:43] <natsirt> yeah for sure
[02:43] <elijah> TJ-: yeah, that is what I thought but the vbox server has root as a group
[02:43] <natsirt> give me liek 5 minutes
[02:44] <Meris> What is the script that starts X and then LightDM in Ubuntu?
[02:44] <elijah> does anyone have admin?
[02:44] <elijah> I am wondering if my admin group is deleted
[02:44] <TJ-> elijah: For sudo "/etc/sudoers" usually has "admin" group set for privileges, but sometimes for some reason the "admin" group isn't create on the system
[02:44] <TJ-> elijah: I usually either create the 'admin' group, or better, add the existing "adm" group into "/etc/sudoers" with the same settings as the "admin" group
[02:45] <DG_> i love you wilee-nilee
[02:46] <pepperjack> elijah: my /etc/sudoers file contains simply a like like:  %sudo  ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[02:46] <Meris> elijah, or go BSD-style and create the "wheel" group instead
[02:47] <Nautilus> I burned some DVD-Rs on ubuntu (using K3B) but my XP system doesn't recognize that there's anything on them.  Any ideas why?
[02:48] <mysteriousdarren> Nautilus: what are you trying to do with it?
[02:48] <Nautilus> well, I was just hoping to confirm they work on another drive/system
[02:48] <Nautilus> hm, now I wonder if this drive went south
[02:49] <mysteriousdarren> Nautilus: try to boot from it
[02:49] <Nautilus> its just data
[02:49] <elijah> Thanks guys
[02:49] <elijah> I will reboot and add the admin group to the system
[02:50] <Meris> Nautilus, you might have used a formatting that WinXP can't read.
[02:50] <Nautilus> believe it was ISO9660
[02:50] <mysteriousdarren> Nautilus: oh sorry thought it was maybe a ubuntu or something xp can't read
[02:50] <mysteriousdarren> as per what Meris said
[02:53] <Nautilus> ISO9660 should be ok from what google indicates
[02:54] <Meris> Nautilus, you can hide a CD/DVD from Joliet (the standard WindowsXP expects). RockRidge is the alternative and the recommended one if you only plan to use it on Linux systems.
[02:54] <learc83> I've got a touchscreen that shows up in lsusb as an HID mouse, but no drivers are installed for it, and when I check /proc/bus/input/devices it's not there. I don't care about multi-touch is there a way to force it to use mouse drivers?
[02:55] <Meris> learc83, which brand and model touchscreen are you referring to?
[02:55] <mr-fool> ATI SBx00 Azalia <---it is a pain in the ass dealing with this sound card
[02:56] <learc83> Meris, it's an Atmel touchscreen, with an ID of 03eb:201c, it works in 12.10, but unfortunately the beta is not working on my tablet. I've upgraded my kernel to 3.4 still not working
[02:57] <Nautilus> Meris: Oh I just remembered that the s/w asked me what platforms it was for, preselected was something like "Linux + Windows" and I left that setting.
[02:57] <Meris> Oh, my completely forgot the time. I'ts 5AM here, so it's time for me to hit the hay.
[02:57] <Nautilus> nite, thanks
[02:57] <Meris> Nautilus, that option should be just fine for cross-platform purposes.
[02:58] <Nautilus> I'll try another system, drive might be shot
[02:59] <Meris> Allright guys and gals, thanks for the wonderful atmosphere and the knowledge imparted. See you soon :-)
[03:00] <bhast2> hello
[03:00] <bhast2> can anyone help me
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> !ask | bhast2
[03:02] <WeThePeople> bhast2, jaust ask
[03:02] <bhast2> Can I install Ubuntu side by side with Windows 8?
[03:02] <WeThePeople> yes
[03:02] <bhast2> Will there be problems?
[03:02] <WeThePeople> idk
[03:02] <bhast2> What if I have win7 and win8 dual booting already
[03:03] <WeThePeople> thats fine too
[03:03] <WeThePeople> nvr heard of that usually they will use a vm for windows
[03:03] <WeThePeople> i have installed win 7 in a vm no prob
[03:04] <bhast2> I only use linux for android stuff
[03:05] <bhast2> I do alot of Visual Styles for Windows 7 and now Windows 8 so I can't have them in VM
[03:05] <bhast2> Do I have to have grub run the os picker
[03:05] <bhast2> or can I use the windows 8 one
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> bhast2:its highly recommended to single boot ubuntu :p
[03:06] <WeThePeople> idk most likely grub 2 can handle it
[03:06] <jeep> bhast2: grub is the better way
[03:07] <WeThePeople> bhast2, yeah, what lotuspsychje said then use a vm for windows
[03:07] <bhast2> but vm for windows won't work for me
[03:07] <WeThePeople> in ubuntu it will
[03:07] <WeThePeople> in virtualbox
[03:08] <bhast2> for what I do I can't run it in VM
[03:08] <WeThePeople> i have had win 7 work just fine
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> bhast2:alot of nicest apps for ubuntu wil make your life easy and windowsless
[03:08] <bhast2> work and what not I can't have it installed on VM
[03:09] <bhast2> wish I could just run Ubuntu
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> bhast2:whats the reason you want w8 still?
[03:11] <bhast2> Cause of my work
[03:11] <bhast2> anyway
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | bhast2
[03:11] <bhast2> thanks lotuspsychje
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> bhast2:its recommended you install w8 first, then make an ubuntu space on your hd
[03:12] <bhast2> I can make that space thru the Ubuntu install disk right
[03:13] <bhast2> or do it in windows
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> bhast2:you can from ubuntu yes, but many guides will say making space from within w7 or w8
[03:14] <bhast2> ok what would you do
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> bhast2:single boot ubuntu lol, i would try ubuntu's install space yes
[03:15] <bhast2> lol
[03:15] <bhast2> i get the feeling you don't like windows lol
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> bhast2:alot of companys run ubuntu servers and completly switched to ubuntu
[03:25] <loque> i recently put a fresh copy of ubuntu 12.04 64bit on my machine but the speed of the net goes up and down(down mostly). why could that be?
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> loque:on what wifi card?
[03:26] <loque> lotuspsychje, its is a usb stick. let me look at the name...
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> loque:usb stick as in gprs with sim card?
[03:27] <loque> lotuspsychje, as in usb wifi adapter
[03:27] <loque> rtl8187
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> loque:realtek it is right
[03:27] <loque> yes
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> loque:wep or wpa security?
[03:28] <loque> lotuspsychje, wpa2 personal
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> loque:there have been bugs before with some cards and wpa security, did you try if web has also speed bottlenecks?
[03:29] <loque> wep? no, i havent tried any other types of security but i will
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> loque:its worth a try, also if you find anything interesting on /var/log that could help?
[03:30] <jeep> wep is worthless only takes a few minutes to crack might as well just disable security if your gonna use it
[03:31] <adie> can windows read any EXT filesystems?
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> jeep: its only for testing mate lol
[03:31] <HeadlessZombie> u dont want to transmit in cleartext, wep is better than nothing
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> !ext4 | adie
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> !ext
[03:31] <adie> :/
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[03:31] <adie> !cake
[03:31] <adie> :(
[03:31] <jeep> adie: ext2fs explorer i think its called
[03:32] <HeadlessZombie> windows can use HFS+ but not natively. best bet is to use NTFS
[03:32] <HeadlessZombie> ah yeah theres that
[03:32] <adie> hmmmm okay
[03:32] <adie> any downsides for using NTFS hs a storage drive within ubuntu?
[03:32] <selite> Hello guys, by default the Clear Looks theme is not included, how do I install it?
[03:32] <HeadlessZombie> nope
[03:32] <selite> Will something like apt-get install compiz work?
[03:33] <adie> okay ^_^
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> selite:compiz already runs on unity3d
[03:33] <HeadlessZombie> download it from opendesktop.org then open system settings
[03:33] <selite> lotuspsychje: Yeah but I disabled unity I just use gnome now.
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> selite:gnome or gnome classic?
[03:34] <selite> lotuspsychje: Gnome classic?
[03:34] <selite> It's not available in gnome classic.
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> selite:install ccsm you will find out of compiz runs or not
[03:35] <selite> lotuspsychje: What's CCSM and why should I install it for a theme?
[03:35] <selite> :S
[03:35] <gatewaywirelessi> Hello, I have a Gateway DX4300 desktop.  I seem to be having issues with the wireless internet for it.  Wireless card seems to be Realtek rtl8190  I have tried several tutorials online to no avail...
[03:36] <selite> And btw I downloaded another theme, it's a zip file how do I install it?
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> selite:no ccsm is to config compiz
[03:37] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, type lshw in terminal and copy , paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[03:39] <sybioz> e ae
[03:40] <jeep> oh what happened to the good ol days where you had to compile your own kernel to make sound and network cards work
[03:40] <Guest64846> Hello, Does anyone know about kubuntu on ubuntu channel?
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Guest64846
[03:40] <gatewaywirelessi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193948/
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> jeep:lol little offtopic, join  ##hardware
[03:41] <selite> How do I install themes? I try drag-drop into the appearance but it doesn't work. Any ideas?
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> selite:not sure mate i didnt use gnome for long time
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> selite:did you try http://gnome-look.org/
[03:43] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, type iwconfig and look for wlan0 wat does it say?
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> selite:alot of usefull info on there
[03:43] <sybioz> ^
[03:43] <sybioz> ^^
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> sybioz:please stop that
[03:43] <sybioz> ????
[03:44] <gatewaywirelessi> says:  lo  no wireless extensions.  eth0  no wireless extensions.
[03:44] <DracoDan> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/quantal/universe/base/targetcli
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> sybioz:this is an ubuntu support channel, ask your question if you have troubles
[03:44] <DracoDan> that page says the latest version is Latest version: 	2.0rc1-2
[03:44] <sybioz> okay
[03:44] <jeep> gatewaywirelessi: you probbaly need ndiswrapper
[03:44] <DracoDan> I have 2.0rc1, there's a difference between the two, right?
[03:44] <gatewaywirelessi> I have ndiswrapper
[03:44] <gatewaywirelessi> Isn't working.
[03:45] <DracoDan> how can I get the latest?
[03:45] <Nautilus> i'm planning on moving from 10.04 tp 12.04 via a clean install.  My 10.04 is in it's own partition on a dual-boot XP/10.04 system.  I have added another drive (lets call it drive B, and I don't plug in both drives at the same time), and created an exact same size partition so that when I get 12.04 ready, I can use Norton Ghost to do a copy to drive A.  The problem / my Q is that drive A currently has GRUB1 and I'll need to change th
[03:45] <selite> lotuspsychje: But the way that it's explained on how to install the theme doesn't work.
[03:45] <DracoDan> I'm really sorry if that seems like a silly question
[03:45] <hazel> anyone can tell me how make to tor browser run deluge?
[03:46] <HeadlessZombie> boot with a live disk and sudo grub-install /dev/sd?
[03:46] <xangua> DracoDan: that page says 2.0rc1-2 is on quantal, are you using ubuntu 12.10 DracoDan ¿
[03:46] <jeep> ok time for something important ... food bbl
[03:46] <Nautilus> HeadlessZombie: me?
[03:46] <DracoDan> yes
[03:46] <xangua> !12.10 | DracoDan
[03:46] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, what distro u on
[03:46] <DracoDan> shit.. I clicked the wrong chan, sorry :-P
[03:47] <DracoDan> (I'm already in both)
[03:47] <gatewaywirelessi> I am running Ubuntu 12.04 64X
[03:47] <hazel> how do i run deluge from tor browser?
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> !patience | hazel
[03:47] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, type ifconfig do you see wlan0, what does it say
[03:48] <gatewaywirelessi> I do not see wlan0
[03:48] <HeadlessZombie> Nautilus, your question got cut off so i just gave a random answer
[03:48] <xangua> hazel: i don't see the point in using a torrent client with tor
[03:48] <DracoDan> well, if anyone can help me, I dont expect an answer from ubuntu+1, it's quiet in there
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> selite: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/04/install-gnome-shell-34-and-extensions.html
[03:49] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, this is the prob>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1314693
[03:49] <Nautilus> HeadlessZombie: hm, didnt get cut off for me.  Maybe just in your client?
[03:50] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, 64x
[03:50] <Nautilus> where did it end?
[03:50] <WeThePeople> is 64  bit?
[03:50] <selite> lotuspsychje: Thanks man, I was able to solve the problem.
[03:50] <gatewaywirelessi> Yeah 64 bit
[03:50] <DracoDan> does apt-get update and apt-get-upgrade not update all the packages on a system?  I'm not too familiar with ubuntu :-/
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> selite: god luck mate
[03:50] <DracoDan> also, how can I see what repos it's using?
[03:51] <delinquentme> GREP question:  grep "class" -r / *.rb       this will search for all *.rb files which contain the string "class"    recursively from the current dir
[03:51] <delinquentme> right?
[03:52] <gatewaywirelessi> So, what do I do to solve said problem?
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> gatewaywirelessi:did you read the url from WeThePeople? it describes what you need to do
[03:55] <gatewaywirelessi> I am attempting to figure out what exactly on said url I am supposed to follow...
[03:55] <WeThePeople> well not exactly
[03:55] <simpleirc> Hello
[03:55] <simpleirc> Is anyone here?
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> simpleirc:just ask your question mate
[03:56] <TJ-> delinquentme: "grep -r class *.rb"
[03:56] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, im still lookin
[03:57] <moriyama> どうこに日本語ではなします？
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> !jp | moriyama
[03:57] <moriyama> lotuspsychje, thanks for the link!
[03:57] <gatewaywirelessi> I know it would be a lot to ask, but is there anyway someone could remote control the problem system (which I have hooked up to ethernet currently) and figure this out?
[03:58] <sybioz> meu zvo on ubuntu is down
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> moriyama:sugoi ; )
[03:58] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, here this might work uninstall the ndiswrapper though soo it does not conflict >> http://www.linuxine.com/story/solved-rtl8190-wifi-n-pci-card-driver
[03:58] <tsimpson> delinquentme: no, it will search recursively from / and all *.rb files in the current directory
[03:58] <sybioz> how much watermelons i need to make a crazy frog burp the alfabeto on the escurregador?
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> !ot | sybioz
[03:59] <WeThePeople> ok nvr mind
[03:59] <bazhang> sybioz, wrong channel
[03:59] <WeThePeople> lol
[03:59] <sybioz> ok
[03:59] <sybioz> bye
[04:00] <WeThePeople> here >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9895713#post9895713
[04:00] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, see above^^^^
[04:01] <gatewaywirelessi> I am on the provided link currently.
[04:01] <adie> I am looking to do some weird copy/sync thing on my computer where files show up in one folder, and then get copied to another folder on the same system
[04:01] <delinquentme> so        grep "class" -r ./ *.rb                ... will search from " / "     ... basically my entire system for *.rb files containing "class"
[04:01] <delinquentme> ?
[04:01] <adie> so one folder can remain in tact, and the other one can be ripped apart and organized
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> delinquentme:did you read what TJ told you?
[04:01] <tsimpson> delinquentme: no, it will search recursively from / *and* all *.rb files in the current directory
[04:01] <adie> not sure if rsync is the right tool for the job :x
[04:02] <delinquentme> lotuspsychje, yeah ... I'm just kind of boggled as to why I've got this thinking in my head
[04:02] <delinquentme> ( mental debugging )
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> gatewaywirelessi: there are many linux drivers on the realtek tw site mate might take alook there too
[04:03] <delinquentme> actually TJ-  "  grep -r require *.rb  "
[04:03] <delinquentme> >> grep: *.rb: No such file or directory
[04:04] <delinquentme> O_o;;;;
[04:05] <tsimpson> delinquentme: use find and grep, eg: find . -name '*.rb' -exec grep c"class" {} +
[04:06] <min|dvir|us> How do I get the index of an element $el in a collection of elements $els?
[04:06] <tsimpson> but without the typo
[04:06] <min|dvir|us> Whoops.
[04:06] <delinquentme> tsimpson, is that like a pipe?
[04:06] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, compiling and installing is easy
[04:06] <delinquentme> like the " unix style " pipes?
[04:06] <TJ-> delinquentme: You said "recursively from the current dir, right?" ... I showed you how to search from the current directory, since your example would have searched from root "/"
[04:06] <simpleirc> Hello can someone help me with regular expressions on Linux?
[04:07] <delinquentme> yeah all the files within the current dir
[04:07] <min|dvir|us> simpleirc: that's pretty vague. I doubt anyone will want to help.
[04:07] <tsimpson> delinquentme: find has the option to execute something on all found files, so you don't need to pipe, though you could also: find . -name '*.rb' -print | xargs grep "class"
[04:07] <delinquentme> Ohh thats the -exec
[04:07] <tsimpson> yes
[04:07] <delinquentme> TJ-, but that didn't do what I was expecting
[04:08] <TJ-> delinquentme: However, if the file-names you are searching for begin with a "." you need to do "grep -r class {.,}*.rb
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> simpleirc:what you mean by that?
[04:08] <jeep> simpleirc: just ask if its too complicated someone will tell you this is for ubuntu help only
[04:09] <simpleirc> Ok
[04:09] <gatewaywirelessi> Thanks for the help. I will be e-mailing realtek and hoping for the drivers. This appears to be the only device not listed on their website...
[04:10] <WeThePeople> np
[04:10] <HeadlessZombie> msg Areckx he might be able to write a driver for ya
[04:10] <selite> If I have files like e1 e2 e3 and e1.c e2.c e3.c, how do I delete only the ones without the .c extension?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> gatewaywirelessi:you could try synaptics for realtek driver search too
[04:11] <TJ-> selite: "rm e{1,2,3}"
[04:11] <selite> TJ-: What if they go up to 1000?
[04:11] <selite> TJ-: Is there a way that this can be done, in a better, simpler way.
[04:12] <Elesa> Hi, I have Natty installed and the installer asks me if I want to replace it with Precise and keep my settings and files. The computer has two accounts, will it work for both?
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:yes it will upgrade with your existing /homes
[04:12] <luftikuss> Elesa: yes.
[04:13] <jeep> could always just mkdir ../c-files&& mv *.c ../c-files && rm *
[04:13] <Elesa> Also, can I just make a partition with a Live DVD and move the contents of /home to it, then do an advanced installation so that the /home's stay on it?
[04:13] <Elesa> That's what I'd like to do instead of keeping everything on 1 partition.
[04:13] <Elesa> I still have a backup and stuff.
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:whats the purpose of the advanced partitioning?
[04:14] <TJ-> selite: "find . -regex '.*/e[[:digit:]]{1,3}' -delete"
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:another Os?
[04:14] <Elesa> Keeping a separate partition for /boot, /home and /.
[04:15] <TJ-> selite: slight correction... "find . -regex '.*/e[[:digit:]]{1,3}$' -delete"
[04:15] <Elesa> But most importantly, keeping /home in a different partition for easier upgrading/repairing/etc.
[04:15] <luftikuss> Elesa: Yes, you can do this also successfully.
[04:15] <Elesa> Great! So I just have to open GParted, make a new partition, copy /home to it, and then set it as /home on the installer, right?
[04:16] <TJ-> Elesa: If you reboot into recovery mode you can do it manually from there at the root shell (since /home/ isn't required in that mode)
[04:16] <Elesa> Oh, okay, I was thinking of doing it from a Live USB though, unless there is some benefit to doing it from the root shell =O
[04:17] <TJ-> Elesa: quicker :)
[04:19] <Elesa> Another question, the installer says that it can keep installed programs on the new Precise system if I upgrade directly from Natty to Precise.. Does that really work? Is there any way to do it manually with advanced partitioning?
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> Elesa: it will upgrade your home and software yes(if the packages are still supported in precise)
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:but its higly recommended to clean install precise for smooth fast system
[04:20] <flaviorecski> opa
[04:21] <Elesa> I knew you'd tell me that, and I think the same too. Any way to make a list of installed programs?
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | Elesa
[04:21] <Elesa> I hope I can just sudo apt-get install it >.>
[04:21] <tsimpson> !clone
[04:22] <Elesa> Thanks lotuspsychje!
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> Elesa: sure, a good backup of your files and packages then clean install precise, and partition as you wish
[04:23] <Elesa> tsimpson, does that create conflicts with Precise? I mean, incompatible libraries and stuff..?
[04:23] <Elesa> lotuspsychje, that's done via Dejà Dup, thanks.
[04:23] <zykotick9> tsimpson: i don't think the !clone factoid should be suggested in 12.04 (see !aptitude for details)... just sayin' ;)
[04:24] <selite> How do I change the font size in vim?
[04:24] <tsimpson> Elesa: you should mostly be ok
[04:24] <Elesa> So.. aptoncd or clone? D:
[04:24] <tsimpson> zykotick9: most people don't really have multiarch  stuff
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> Elesa: i installed precise 12.04.1 64 in like 13minutes
[04:25] <zykotick9> tsimpson: all 64bit people do (and 64bit just overtook 32bit on debian)
[04:25]  * Elesa uses a 32bit system.
[04:25] <tsimpson> zykotick9: not yet on ubuntu installs though
[04:25] <king_cobra> i have a question about editing the menu list file in /boot/grub/menu.lst , after removing linux mint.. yet again and updating grub for the umpteenth time the grub menu at start up still displays all the Mint boot options,  my question is can i edit this file an delete the unwanted OS's on the grub menu?
[04:26] <zykotick9> tsimpson: was literally the last few days i believe it happened for the first time with popcorn on debian ;)
[04:26] <Elesa> Maybe I'll use aptoncd because I want to start fresh and maybe there will be some packages that I don't want anymore, thanks for you great help anyways. =D
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> !mint | king_cobra
[04:26] <tsimpson> zykotick9: the majority of ubuntu installs are still 32bit, mostly because it has the word "recommended" next to it
[04:26] <king_cobra> i dont have MINT.. i removed it.. im on Ubuntu editing a file on Ubuntu..
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> king_cobra: oh ok my bad mate
[04:27] <king_cobra> hate that crap
[04:27] <LibertyTrader> does centrino 2200BGN have open source drivers?
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> king_cobra, What is at the top of the grub list when you boot?
[04:27] <zykotick9> tsimpson: </ot> but i honestly think ubuntu should stick to that recommendation.  i see serveral 64bit issues in this channel that could probably be avoided ;)
[04:28] <daurnimator> anyone used a touch screen with ubuntu?
[04:28] <Elesa> Umm.. APTonCD is certainly NOT displaying all my packages.
[04:28] <daurnimator> mine seems to be doing select (rather than licking)
[04:28] <daurnimator> *clicking
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> !ot | daurnimator
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> king_cobra, Or if you run sudo update-grub
[04:28] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: that's not really ot?
[04:28] <napster> Elesa: It just lists packages available in the apt cache
[04:28] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: !anyone maybe ;)
[04:28] <king_cobra> wilee-nilee: Ubuntu 11.10, kernel 3.0.0-13-generic even though its 12.04
[04:28] <datruth> my system boots up in 43seconds i'm trying to speed that up what are some things I can do?
[04:28] <daurnimator> lotuspsychje: huh?
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> king_cobra, YOU have just one Ubuntu install or is 11.10 installed as well?
[04:29] <king_cobra> its only 12.04
[04:30] <xinyi> sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-30-generic
[04:30] <xinyi> this would update the kernel
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> king_cobra, Cool, have you used a grub menu tweaker like grub customizer?
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> or any other
[04:31] <king_cobra> yes
[04:31]  * zykotick9 suggests using "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to update kernels... but that's just me
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> datruth:install a 64bit ubuntu on an ssd hd
[04:32] <king_cobra> ill try it Zykotick9, right now just trying to get Mint off my grub menu..
[04:32] <jeep> lotuspsychje: did you do a kernel yet ?
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> king_cobra, Ah there is the problem you can adjust from there probably or just purge and reinstall grub including making sure IT gets put in the mbr then run a update-grub and have it all fixed then tweak again, so ask for the purge commands and the reinstall commands first.
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> jeep:no, like i said i used several versions and kernels for years on ubuntu, this bug remained following me..
[04:33] <wilee-nilee> first before jut doing a purge unless you know king_cobra
[04:33] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: 64bit is only really useful for certain situations and/or more then 4GB RAM...
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> jeep:its gotta be something else..
[04:33] <loque> can i change my mac address permanently?
[04:34] <xinyi> yep
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> !info macchanger | loque
[04:34] <loque> awesome
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: i got 64bit on ssd with 1gig ram and feel very usefull..
[04:34] <king_cobra> ok.. will try..
[04:34] <datruth> lotuspsychje: nothing I can tweak on the system? it use to load up faster than 43seconds
[04:35] <napster> loque: Actually mac change is temporary and will reset on reboot
[04:35] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: i have 64bit os on ssd with 4GB RAM - and do a ton of encoding (current load average: 7.72, 7.67, 7.67)
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> datruth: most speed boosts are hd and ram and cpu...
[04:36] <king_cobra> thank you
[04:36] <xinyi> in reallity , mac addr is written to hardware, any software mean to change it just modify it every time you boot
[04:37] <Elesa> napster, any way to make it list every package? ._.
[04:37] <zykotick9> xinyi: i hate the eth1, then eth2 mac changes cause... udev is solution BTW
[04:37] <napster> xinyi: And I would have added the macchanger random mac command to some init scripts if I wanted to do this :)
[04:37] <datruth> lotuspsychje: cpu and ram is pretty powerful it seems like over time but system takes longer to boot
[04:37] <jeep> lotuspsychje: try it i bet your in for a surprise
[04:37] <datruth> and im trying to fix that
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> datruth:what hd brand u run ubuntu on?
[04:38] <zykotick9> napster: lol, you're gonna end up with eth204 ;)
[04:38] <napster> Elesa: What you exactly wanted to do is to make a list of names of all installed packages.
[04:38] <napster> zykotick9: :D
[04:38] <Elesa> napster, I guess I will open Gedit and do it. xD
[04:38] <Elesa> sigh
[04:39] <napster> Elesa: no
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> datruth:43 second with POST loading counting?
[04:39] <napster> Elesa: I think this will do it for you : dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[04:39] <Elesa> done
[04:39] <datruth> lotuspsychje: 43seconds to get from my boot screen to desktop and I think I have wd
[04:39] <Psi-Jack> I'm having this constant problem. Many things I do, such as simply looking at email in Thunderbird. Sending/Receiving IMs in Pidgin, starting Chrome, I get an Authenticate dialog: Authentication is required to change user data.
[04:40]  * zykotick9 thinks dpkg might even be worse then aptitude... for this case, but isn't sure.
[04:40] <jeep> Elesa: for list of every package dpkg -l > foo.txt then open foo.txt
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Datruth: thats pretty fast for a regular hd mate, ide or sata?
[04:40] <Elesa> Thanks jeep. =D
[04:40] <datruth> lotuspsychje: sata how can I see what services/deamons are being loaded on boot time and how can I disable them?
[04:41] <napster> Elesa: jeep Actually the first command outputs something that can be used to reinstall those packages back, That is exactly what Elesa want to do
[04:41] <CellTech> Awesome question. Any chance I could set my computer up with my linux on ide1 and a windows drive on ide2 then chose what to boot from at start up?
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> datruth: i really recommend ssd on ubuntu, messing with services will ot gain much speed
[04:42] <napster> Elesa: dpkg --set-selections < installed-software Use this command when you are done with your fresh install get all those packages back installed.
[04:42] <Pirsch> Hello. Is anyone here familiar with ubuntu and eepc?
[04:43] <Elesa> =O, that's great
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> Pirsch:just ask your question mate
[04:43] <Elesa> Finally, any way to get aMSN in Precise?
[04:43] <yakster> no, but if you want to send me one, Ill definatly take a look see… lol
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> !info amsn | Elesa
[04:43] <Pirsch> I bought my daughter an eeepc and installed ubuntu on it. I have wireless options but my wired internet is non-existent. Nothing happen when I plug the cable in
[04:43] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm, that "Authentication required" seems to come from policykit's polkit-agent-helper-1
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:maybe a manual amsn install
[04:44] <Elesa> D:
[04:44] <Elesa> You mean compiling it?
[04:44] <Pirsch> lotuspsychje, my google searches have been fruitless
[04:44] <datruth> lotuspsychje: how can I do it any way
[04:44] <datruth> lotuspsychje: i can only get 128gb max on ssd?
[04:45] <napster> Elesa: no, debs are available
[04:45] <Elesa> I hope so, because the last time I searched for a Precise .deb I found nothing.
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> datruth:what you mean by max?
[04:46] <napster> Elesa: if you don't find precise packages, you will need to build it your own.
[04:46] <Elesa> Compiling.. ._.
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> Elesa: https://launchpad.net/~amsn-daily/+archive/ppa
[04:47] <Elesa> Now that I like. =D
[04:47] <Elesa> I guess that'd be all, thanks guys! Have a good night/day/whatever!
[04:47] <datruth> the services/deamons
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> Pirsch:did you enable eth0 cabled conection for the first time?
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> !info bum | datruth
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> brb
[04:49] <Pirsch> lotuspsychje, I'm a noob so I'll tell you what I did. I opened edit connections and did what I always do with setting up the DSL. That didn't work so I thought I might try doing an automatic wireless. That didn't work either. How can I enable eth0?
[04:50] <Pirsch> lotuspsychje, I mean automatic wired
[04:50] <luftikuss> "Xfce is a lightweight desktop environment for Unix-like OSs." "LXDE is a free and open source desktop environment for Unix and other POSIX compliant platforms." What is the main difference between them two?
[04:51] <Pirsch> lotuspsychje, 'enable eth0' does sound like the right thing to do. I'll google a 'howto' and if I cannot find it, I'll be back
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> luftikuss, what is your definition of main here there are multiple fiffrences.
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> differences*
[04:52] <luftikuss> wilee-nilee: Use your definition and tell me. I don't know yet.
[04:53] <Pirsch> lotuspsychje, I'll try this http://wiki.geteasypeasy.com/Your_Ethernet_%28LAN%29_doesnt_work,_but_you_have_drivers%3F_Simple...
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> luftikuss, lubuntu is much lighter in its use of ram and cpu than xubuntu is the main thing I would say.
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> ram anyway for sure, both can be trimmed though to run light.
[04:55] <luftikuss> wilee-nilee: You used the term "xubuntu". But I would like that you tell me the difference between Xfce and LXDE, please.
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> luftikuss, those are the base of lubuntu and xubuntu basically the same difference. If you really want to know you can install both and completely remove them easily to compare.
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> they will overlap in some apps both instaled though.
[04:58] <jeep> luftikuss: desktop environments are like women the more you try the happier you will be in the end
[04:58] <myhero> hii all
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> jeep:lol
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> that is a horribly sexist remark I would be careful there.
[05:00] <myhero> which is the best im clent for webcam n ubuntu...if its multi-im then its better otherwise single ones also do...but the best for im webcam on ubuntu
[05:00] <Psi-Jack> myhero: There is no "best" of anything. Best is a measure of your own personal and unique opinion of what you consider best for you, and could be in multiple different scenarios. It is more useful to ask more specific questions you have.
[05:00] <Pirsch> lotuspsychje, didn't work. I still have no network connection
[05:01] <myhero> Psi-Jack: name some gud multi-im clients which have webcam feature
[05:01] <qualia> Hi ! I know that solving the problem of "Question marks showing up instead of the subtitles, with special characters from another language" is done by choosing that language in Subtitles & Encoding. But this hasn't solved the problem for me and it's still displaying ? instead of special characters
[05:01] <Psi-Jack> myhero: Skype. :p
[05:01] <qualia> i dont have anything on my system about that language could that be the problem, do i have to download an encoding file thing?
[05:02] <myhero> Psi-Jack: skype supports yahoo and google and is it available on ubuntu ??
[05:02] <Psi-Jack> myhero: No. You were completely unspecific, so you got a very unspecific answer. Gee, would've helped to be more specific as you were told, right? And yes, Skype's available for Ubuntu.
[05:03] <namoamitabuddha> Is there anybody using unbound?
[05:04] <jeep> namoamitabuddha: lots of people "unbound" online im not sure if anyone specifically chooses it
[05:04] <aminux71> hi
[05:04] <jeep> qualia: subtitles as in your watching a video and the subtitles dont show ?
[05:05] <aminux71> i need help prob with install ubuntu
[05:05] <myhero> Psi-Jack: skype supports im for yahoo google msn fb with webcam feature ?? any other gud alternatives supporting these networks and integrated with webcam feature....??? what about pidgin empathy or glaxium ?
[05:05] <jeep> !ask > aminux71
[05:05] <qualia> jeep, yes
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> aminux71, I saw your post in the forms channel do you only have 256 mib of ram?
[05:05] <Psi-Jack> myhero: good is spelled "good", not "gud"
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> forums*
[05:06] <aminux71> os install mode enabled on dell optiplex 755
[05:06] <Psi-Jack> aminux71: "OS install" mode usually sucks. It just keeps the RAM down to 256MB or such, which is kinda silly.
[05:06] <myhero> Psi-Jack: i know....shorthand....also here ppl dont like shorthand that i also i know....but typing that way...anyway am i getting any useful ans. ?
[05:06] <codemaniac> aminux71: a quick serch returned me this
[05:06] <Psi-Jack> myhero: This channel, and specifically I, does not respond well to "shtspk", because it is lame, annoying, and unacceptable here.
[05:06] <codemaniac> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ws530/en/ug/html/2codes.htm
[05:07] <aminux71> i have 1 gb ram
[05:07] <Psi-Jack> aminux71: Yes.. "OS Install mode" will not give you 1GB RAM.
[05:07] <myhero> Psi-Jack: i know....but u gonna ans. or should i leave....??
[05:07] <Psi-Jack> myhero: Bye!
[05:07] <Rayston>  I apologize for this not really being an Ubuntu question, but anyone know a good place to get free shell access on a server where I am allowed to run persistent processes like IRCBots, Mumble Servers. etc.?  Computers are cheap these days.
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> Howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed('nomodeset' fixes this, but then compiz is unworkable)
[05:10] <Rayston> hehe, yeah, I actually probably have the parts to build one, just bein lazy, not sure which should win, cheap, or lazy
[05:10] <jeep> Psi-Jack: yep exactly and ubuntu downloads are free as well .. just need to purchase a cd for installing on a old computer that wont boot usb
[05:11] <Psi-Jack> jeep: Or just simply have a CDRW that you can use/erase
[05:11] <myhero> bazhang: any gud multi-im chat client for ubuntu which has webcam feature and supports atleast yahoo gtalk msn ??
[05:11] <jeep> lotuspsychje: remeber that guy little bit agao with the realtek wifi issue .. module for it is in new kernel i think
[05:11] <Psi-Jack> Some people never learn....
[05:12] <myhero> some ppl always insert their nose inbetween
[05:12] <luftikuss> wilee-nilee: Thank you for explaining.
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> jeep:any way to update kernel automaticly with apt-get?
[05:13] <luftikuss> jeep: Your message is not helpful.
[05:13] <myhero> some dont help when they r supposed 2 and even dont let others help also
[05:13] <luftikuss> myhero: True.
[05:13] <myhero> luftikuss: i know
[05:13] <jeep> lotuspsychje: you build a .deb then use dpkg to install it so you can remove it easy as well
[05:14] <myhero> bazhang: any help ??
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> jeep:i used so many kernels in the past mate, i doubt this bug will vanish with this
[05:15] <WeThePeople> what channel would be willing to talk about someone hacking my wireless signal and helping out with ?that
[05:15] <myhero> any1
[05:15] <WeThePeople> myhero, ask again
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> jeep:if adding nomodeset to grub fixes it, meaning it works on the kernel i use...
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> jeep:i really think its a grafix issue
[05:16] <robertzaccour> When I installed the FGLRX driver and restarted the picture shrunk off scale and is now smaller than the display. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance
[05:16] <aminux71> The OS Install Mode option in system setup is set to On. This limits the amount of available memory to 256 MB because some OSs will not complete installation with more than 2 GB of system memory.
[05:17] <myhero> WeThePeople:  any1.......any gud multi-im chat client with wecam feature supporting atleast yahoo, gtlak n msn networks for ubuntu ??
[05:17] <aminux71> After the OS is installed, enter system setup and set the OS Install Mode option to Off.
[05:17] <Elesa> Is it normal that GParted takes more than 15 minutes to shrink a 300 GB partition to 154?
[05:17] <Elesa> ._.
[05:17] <Grant_P> Hey guys, best AVI > MP4 convertor for ubuntu 12.04?
[05:17] <WeThePeople> myhero, pidgin maybe
[05:17] <IdleOne> !im | myhero
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> WeThePeople, wep or wpa is pretty easy to hack so a 128 full password is where I would start with using pwgen -s -n -y to generate or a web keynaker that is as close to random as it can be, you would have to install pwgen to use that code.
[05:18] <aminux71> but i don,t have the option os install on my bios
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> keymaker*
[05:18] <Elesa> Grant_P: I think Arista Transcoder.
[05:18] <WeThePeople> grant_p, look for one in software center
[05:18] <myhero> WeThePeople: does pidgins supports webcam on yahoo, man and gtalk ??
[05:18] <jeep> lotuspsychje: ill be back ina few
[05:18] <WeThePeople> myhero, idk if you will get all that in a client
[05:19] <WeThePeople> wilee-nilee, thanks
[05:19] <robertzaccour> My display screen is off scale, its smaller than the entire screen. Ever since I installed the FLGRX driver
[05:20] <myhero> WeThePeople: i only want chat client for yahoo, gtalk and msn with webcam and voice for ubuntu.....nothing more.....
[05:20] <Elesa> Is it normal that GParted takes more than 15 minutes to shrink a 300 GB partition to 154? I'm scared of clicking Cancel but it's taken TOO much time.
[05:20] <WeThePeople> elesa, is it a ubuntu partition or win
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> Elesa, at the least if there is data there, do not stop it.
[05:21] <WeThePeople> myhero, pidgin might
[05:22] <IdleOne> myhero: install and try pidgin, see if it suits your needs.
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> Elesa, If this is a OS it will take 15 to 20 at least to read it then start resizing.
[05:22] <robertzaccour> myhero: Skype and the google video chat plugin for gmail work great for video chat. Also in Kopete you can connect to Yahoo Messenger but no audio with the webcam.
[05:22] <Elesa> It's a Ubuntu partition.
[05:22] <Grant_P> Thanks Elesa & WeThePeople
[05:22] <Elesa> Yeah, it is.
[05:22] <Elesa> Sure Grant_P. =D
[05:23] <myhero> ok..i have installed pidgin...but there is no webcam otion at all...how to activate webcam on pidgin
[05:23] <WeThePeople> myhero, yes it should i saw a plugin for voice and video
[05:23] <robertzaccour> Are there any Ubuntu programs used to fix scaling issues caused by proprietary graphics drivers? Got an issue with FGLRX
[05:24] <myhero> WeThePeople: ok...i will search for the plugin
[05:24] <WeThePeople> myhero, it under tools
[05:24] <WeThePeople> plugins
[05:25] <myhero> WeThePeople: yea...got it.....tick marked it...now what....is it installed coz after ticking it nothing happening......
[05:26] <robertzaccour> When I installed the proprietary FGLRX driver and rebooted my display picture is off scale. The picture is smaller than the display parameters. Is there a way to fix scaling issues?
[05:27] <WeThePeople> myhero, http://askubuntu.com/questions/9217/audo-video-with-pidgin
[05:27] <myhero> i installed wine then yahoo messenger and gtalk and platalk in wine but everytime its getting stuck...so i think im clients dont work gud in wine......
[05:27] <myhero> WeThePeople: thnx
[05:29] <Elesa> I'm starting to get worried.
[05:29] <myhero> robertzaccour: any other chat client for ubuntu....coz i downloaded gtalk but its exe file for windows...not for ubuntu,.....
[05:29] <tripper> ok
[05:29] <tripper> no
[05:29] <tripper> wait
[05:29] <tripper> so
[05:29] <WeThePeople> myhero, http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/vv
[05:30] <tripper> here's my problem
[05:30] <tripper> Audio doesn't work when logged in
[05:30] <tripper> but
[05:30] <Anusien>  Do I need to install a specific package to get the open source radeon drivers?
[05:30] <tripper> the GDM makes that little bongodrum sound thingy
[05:30] <robertzaccour> myhero: https://www.google.com/chat/video it works just fine within gmail
[05:30] <tripper> so obviously things are just screwy in my setting somewhere
[05:30] <tripper> what do
[05:31] <tripper> I want to be able to listen to music and stuff
[05:31] <WeThePeople> tripper, have you sudo apt-get upgrade yet?
[05:31] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm, interesting.
[05:31] <tripper> and the fact that the gdm intro sound works makes me curious
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:i think it uses radeon as default
[05:31] <Psi-Jack> Seems I've solved the whole "Authorization required..." issue
[05:31] <tprice> i just installed uec and im getting this error in the store "Error 60: server certificate verification failed. "
[05:31] <tripper> cos I mean in theory then sound should work
[05:31] <tripper> WeThePeople: Updating packages now.
[05:31] <tprice> i tried this but didnt work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1837612
[05:32] <tprice> ay advice?
[05:32] <Elesa> It's taken about 25 minutes now..
[05:32] <thomedy> quick question i have a software packet .... for example lets just say blender put in a specific path... that i call with ~/... etc... i want to make ~/.. [the path] into a thing like ls where its just a command
[05:32] <WeThePeople> elesa, keep waitin
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:ext4?
[05:32] <WeThePeople> 25 min isnt long
[05:32] <myhero1> what is the diff. between ubuntu 12.04 and 12.04.1
[05:32] <Elesa> Yes.
[05:32] <WeThePeople> 12.04.1 is newest
[05:33] <Elesa> myhero1: There's no difference, the latter is just Ubuntu 12.04 with all updates so far.
[05:33] <thomedy> im pretty sure thats just #!BASH or something like that and then the path in the bash script but then what how do i turn it  into a command i can call from anywhere
[05:33] <Elesa> lotuspsychje: it's ext4, yes.
[05:33] <Anusien> lotuspsychje: I am having some choppiness with mplayer/vlc that I can't explain any other way. SEtting cache doesn't help, and CPU is < 50%
[05:33] <myhero1> Elesa:  i have 12.04 installed so should i go for 12.04.1
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:did you try unity2d?
[05:34] <Elesa> myhero1: They are the same, 12.04.1 just means that the ISO you download from the Ubuntu website has all the updates so far.
[05:34] <Elesa> You already have those updates.
[05:35] <myhero1> WeThePeople: any major update  ?? i have limited connection so i dont want to waste bandwidth.....so should i update sstem or continue with 12.04
[05:35] <myhero1> system*
[05:35] <Elesa> myhero1: I told you it's the same system.
[05:35] <WeThePeople> myhero1, its up to you
[05:35] <myhero1> Elesa: ok
[05:36] <Elesa> myhero1: 12.04.1 is 12.04 with all the updates you have. o_o
[05:36] <tprice> I have just installed UEC and im getting an error when i try to search for an image in the store.
[05:36] <tprice> I tried this but with no success. http://open.eucalyptus.com/forum/ser...#comment-19252
[05:36] <tprice> Error 60: server certificate verification failed.
[05:36] <tprice> Any advice on getting the UEC working?
[05:36] <FloodBot1> tprice: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:you could try ubuntu-restricted-extras and see if it helps
[05:36] <robertzaccour> When I installed the proprietary FGLRX driver and rebooted my display picture is off scale. The picture is smaller than the display parameters. Is there a way to fix scaling issues?
[05:37] <robertzaccour> myhero1: did ya try out the browser plugin for google talk video chat?
[05:37] <myhero1> Elesa: i dont have any update till now...coz i dont update coz as i told before i have limited connection....
[05:37] <WeThePeople> robertzaccour, type xrandr -s 0cin termial
[05:37] <Anusien> lotuspsychje: I don't understand what that would matter? And there seems to be an active bug saying unity2d makes media players flicker
[05:38] <WeThePeople> stop
[05:38] <robertzaccour> WeThePeople: what does that do?
[05:38] <WeThePeople> robertzaccour, stop
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:depending on what kinda video codec files you run on vlc, installing the extras can make a difference
[05:38] <WeThePeople> xrandr -s 0
[05:39] <Anusien> lotuspsychje: Some pretty basic stuff, honestly
[05:39] <Elesa> myhero1: What do you want to do? Update your PC? If that's what you want, you should just go to some place with fast internet and update via the Update Manager.
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:you got an older grafix card?
[05:39] <robertzaccour> WeThePeople: is that for screen scaling?
[05:39] <WeThePeople> yes
[05:39] <WeThePeople> resclaing
[05:39] <Anusien> ATI X1200, so no binary support from ATI
[05:39] <cael> im using xubuntu 11.04, though i have a question,  how can i stop it from blanking my laptop's screen like its powering it down? gets really annoying when watching streams and youtube.
[05:39] <WeThePeople> resolution
[05:39] <myhero1> robertzaccour: i have it...but i have not tried in on ubuntu.....but then still if it works then it will only have google network and yahoo and msn networks will be left behind.....so i want a chat lient which supports webcam and voice supporting yahoo, google and msn......nothing more.......
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Anusien: i also got an older x800 got screen corruptions at boot
[05:40] <Elesa> Ugh, will that resizing operation finish some time?
[05:41] <rabbi1> how to disable upgrade in 12.04 ?
[05:41] <WeThePeople> myhero1, pidgin does
[05:41] <robertzaccour> myhero1: I don't think there's an app that supports all that in Windows or Linux outside of running each individual program. I know in Windows there's camfrog, with that you can share the same cam display in multiple IM clients.
[05:42] <myhero1> Elesa: ok..thnx dear...last question on 12.04.1....are there any major updates like anything concerning security or system stability and functioning ?? or i can continue with 12.04 without much worries....
[05:42] <mitrokov> Good afternoon experts ubuntu. Help please! have a weak computer needed an easy way to tell ubuntu distro that can advise novice
[05:42] <WeThePeople> robertzaccour, type xrandr -h in terminal for --help
[05:42] <cael> old/weak? use xubuntu
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !info lubuntu-desktop | mitrokov
[05:42] <Elesa> myhero1: installing 12.04.1 would be just like updating your current 12.04 via the Update Manager, so you have nothing to worry about! =D
[05:42] <WeThePeople> DSL
[05:42] <cfhowlett> mitrokov: lubuntu or xubuntu
[05:43] <robertzaccour> WeThePeople: ok thanks
[05:43] <WeThePeople> !info | DSL
[05:43] <Anusien> lotuspsychje: I found it, it's xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[05:43] <rabbi1> how to disable upgrade in 12.04 ?
[05:43] <mitrokov> ok thanks
[05:43] <cael> but anyone know how to stop screen sleeping? im getting tired of it when watching videos
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:can you tell me what to do?
[05:44] <cfhowlett> rabbi1: there is no automatic upgrade, so just don't upgrade
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:found that x1200 bug also on the xorg, but not sure howto fix
[05:44] <cfhowlett> cael: in your system settings.  Change you time out/sleep behavior
[05:44] <luftikuss> How can I determine my current window manager?
[05:44] <Elesa> lotuspsychje: my PC's fan suddenly started spinning faster, so I guess you were right about GParted first reading the OS, and then creating the partition, which I believe is being done now.
[05:45] <Tico> Hi, someone knows how i can make ubuntu to boot with noapic automatic?
[05:45] <rabbi1> cfhowlett: i recently upgraded from 2.6 to 3.2 generic... that should be okay right? as my ubuntu was hanging quite often
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> Elesa: you clean installed it now?
[05:46] <cael> thanks cfhowlett
[05:46] <Elesa> lotuspsychje: no, I wish. I haven't because this resizing thing has taken more than 30 minutes. Remember what I was saying about creating a new partition and moving /home there, then setting it as the new home in the installer?
[05:46] <cfhowlett> rabbi1: KERNEL upgrade?  different story.
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:let me know how you fix that xorg-video
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:yes, partitioning can take a while
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> !noapic
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Tico
[05:48] <myhero1> which is better lubuntu kubuntu xubuntu or ubuntu ?? i am not doing any voting or asking about preferences...but i wanna clean install so i wanna know.....coz i dont know which is better
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> Tico:there's a noapic section on there mate
[05:48] <HeadlessZombie> it all depends.
[05:48] <WeThePeople> ubuntu
[05:48] <Elesa> myhero1: Why do you want to reinstall?
[05:48] <Tico> lotuspsychje: oh okay :P
[05:48] <HeadlessZombie> i like xubuntu and kubuntu and ubuntu drives me nuts
[05:49] <HeadlessZombie> ubuntu is a nice jumping off point, but i never leave it as they have it out of the box
[05:49] <myhero1> Elesa: coz i have windows on hdd and this i am running libe from ubuntu stick
[05:50] <myhero1> live*
[05:50] <Elesa> myhero1: They are the same system, but with different desktop environments and apps by default, but they can be modified to look and be like the K, X and L variants.
[05:50] <Tico> lotuspsychje: but how do i make it to execute by it self and not me typing noapic everytime i boot ubuntu?
[05:50] <Elesa> myhero1: it all depends on how you like to use your PC, do you find the Ubuntu interface useful and productive for you?
[05:50] <cfhowlett> myhero1: suggest you install virtualbox on windows and try out all your options before you install to the hdd
[05:51] <Elesa> ^^
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> Tico:add it to etc/default/grub
[05:51] <myhero1> yeah i use ubuntu and find it gud...but occasionally i find it stucking on some load
[05:51] <Tico> lotuspsychje: in ubuntu?
[05:52] <Elesa> myhero1: Any OS in a Live USB will behave a bit slower than if it was installed on a hard drive.
[05:52] <cfhowlett> Elesa: exactomundo
[05:52] <myhero1> cfhowlett: thnx...but still the same question...if somebody who has used all can suggest which is better coz i cant decide on just lil time of using it and on look and feel...
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Tico:yes add the boot command you like and update-grub after and reboot
[05:53] <myhero1> Elesa: thats surprising...i thought usb respone time is better then hdd
[05:53] <cfhowlett> myhero1: EXACTLY why I suggested you install virtualbox for windows, install ubuntu to virtual box and try out the different flavors.
[05:53] <Tico> lotuspsychje: okey thanks for the help :)
[05:54] <Tico> lotuspsychje: okey thanks for the help :)
[05:54] <tprice> should i use 10.04 for UEC or 12.04?
[05:54] <Tico> lotuspsychje: cya*
[05:54] <Elesa> myhero1: What cfhowlett said. xD
[05:55] <Elesa> Sheesh..
[05:55] <Elesa> Why is this thing so slow.. ._.
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Elesa: anything interesting in /var/log/syslog?
[05:56] <pepperjack> myhero1: of course you can install them on natively and choose which to log into as well
[05:56] <myhero1> cfhowlett: thats no help....that will take some time...and os performance cant be judged in lil time.......i asked if anyone has used them and can suggest which is better.....
[05:57] <myhero1> i have used ubuntu so far with xfce kde and lxde installed on it
[05:57] <Elesa> lotuspsychje: Well, what should I look for?
[05:57] <cfhowlett> myhero1: better/best means nothing as it is all subjective.  I've used all.  I chose what works best for me and my machine.  That said, install one version and add the different desktop managers and try them all out.
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:some usb drives being slow can leave errors on there, look at the bottom of syslog
[05:58] <Elesa> myhero1: then it's the same thing, use whichever has your favorite desktop environment, be it XFCE, KDE, or LXDE, don't like it? Then install a new desktop environment.
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> myhero1:this is a support channel, not a performance quiz..move on the ubuntu problems
[05:59] <pepperjack> myhero1: well xfce and lxde have similar dependencies so the comparison would really be between them, unity(default ubuntu) and kubuntu.  personally i prefer kde or a ligher gtk environment like xfce or lxde
[05:59] <myhero1> cfhowlett: the reason i am asking this is coz i have see ubuntu getting stuck many times with no response at all so that i have t boot it up to work again.....so performance and stability is what i prefer rather then look and feel
[05:59] <Elesa> myhero1: I'd choose Xubuntu then.
[05:59] <myhero1> Elesa: THNX
[05:59] <Elesa> myhero1: Good balance between performance and looks, but performance overall.
[05:59] <Elesa> Np. xD
[06:00] <Elesa> lotuspsychje: Okie.
[06:00] <cfhowlett> myhero1: inclined to agree.  XFCE has been very well behaved on my system.
[06:00] <myhero1> Elesa: yeah...if lloks are gud then its better but i dont wanna compromise performance for nothing
[06:00] <myhero1> cfhowlett: thnx
[06:01] <Elesa> myhero1: then you'll like it, because Xubuntu can be pretty, too. :D
[06:01] <myhero1> so now i m inclining towards xubntu....
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:still here mate?
[06:02] <myhero> srry i got dc......any msgs inbetween ??
[06:03] <Elesa> myhero1: Ubuntu is mostly for newer PC's, it's not meant to be installed in a 10 years old machine, just like you'd expect with Windows 7 or Mac OS X: Mountain Lion, even if Ubuntu has lower requirements. Kubuntu is also a good option for newer PC's, but it's a bit bloated IMO and it can be a bit complicated if you prefer simplicity over customizing EVERYTHING, and Lubuntu is a excellent option for older systems, as it's blazing fast.
[06:04] <htmlinprogress> hi
[06:04] <Elesa> myhero: And Xubuntu has the best of the two worlds, good looks and fast performance while keeping compatible with most never stuff and not compromising anything.
[06:04] <myhero> Elesa: thnx
[06:04] <luftikuss> How can I determine my current window manager?
[06:04] <myhero> i have old and new systems both with laptops and desktops
[06:04] <Psi-Jack> luftikuss: ps
[06:05] <wilee-nilee> luftikuss, what is the desktop?
[06:05] <myhero> currently i m on quad core i3 hp g6 lappy
[06:05] <rabbi1> cfhowlett: yeah, ok.... now how can i test for this hanging problem ?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> luftikuss: echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[06:06] <Elesa> myhero: just go for Xubuntu then. If you want to use Unity, just use sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or download it from the Software Center or Synaptic if you don't feel comfortable in the command line.
[06:06] <myhero> i m confortable with terminal
[06:07] <myhero> and does xubuntu supports ubuntu repos ??
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> luftikuss:full info env on terminal
[06:07] <Elesa> It uses the same repos!
[06:07] <stripe> hi all is this the ubuntu help channel?
[06:07] <Elesa> stripe: It is.
[06:07] <Psi-Jack> stripe: Nope. That's down the hall and to the right.
[06:07] <myhero> lol
[06:08] <Elesa> Don't worry about repositories, all Ubuntu variants share the same repos.
[06:08] <myhero> psycho joke....looks like he is gone to other gully....
[06:09] <stripe> thanks Elesa , does anyone know how to change the resolution of the log in screen in 12.04.1, the desktop is controlled by the nvidia panel
[06:09] <myhero> Elesa: ok...bu ti saw many apps repos available like for ubuntu for xubutnu for kubuntu.....etc
[06:09] <Elesa> myhero: huh?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | stripe
[06:10] <Elesa> !synaptic
[06:10] <almaak> why is it i can allways log into #ubuntu servers but never any other irc servers??
[06:10] <myhero> Elesa: for example...ubuntu restricted xtras...then xubuntu restricted xtras...then kubuntu restricted xtras....
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> almaak:what error you getting trying connecting?
[06:11] <Elesa> myhero: you could just look for restricted extras in the Software Center.
[06:11] <myhero> Elesa: so if i save debs for ubuntnu restricted xtras then they will be installed on xubuntu or not ???
[06:12] <Elesa> They will, but I'd just get xubuntu-restricted-extras o.o
[06:13] <myhero> Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to myhero1) from frigg.......what does this mean ???
[06:13] <stripe> ubottu, I am only running one screen, its just when I want to change the user the login screen is unusable due to the resolution of the login screen being to big for my screen (bits hanging over the edge)
[06:13] <myhero> lol
[06:13] <stripe> lol
[06:13] <Elesa> LOL
[06:13] <Elesa> Wow.. xD
[06:14] <raymond> I'm trying to get seamlessrdp working with windows 7.  I'm having problem getting the "-s" option working with rdesktop connecting to my vm, it seems to ignore the -s option, even though I'm giving a valid path to the seamlessrdp.exe program.  I've tried googling but I couldn't find a solution... I scoured the group policy editor looking for an option I could turn on... and nothing. Has anyone had this problem before?
[06:14] <myhero> ubottu should also send his intro with his intelligent msg coz newbies dont understand how intelligent it is....
[06:14] <N03l> zgr: hello
[06:14] <myhero> lol
[06:14] <Psi-Jack> raymond: ##windows is your channel for that.
[06:15] <robertzaccour> How come in Ubuntu when I install gnome-shell, right-click works just fine on the desktop, but in ubuntu gnome-shell remix it does not?
[06:16] <Elesa> robertzaccour: Honestly, I think GNOME Shell is a joke, and a pretty toy. >__>
[06:16] <Elesa> robertzaccour: Where is double click not working? Desktop? Top panel?
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, you install the remix or ubuntu, it doesn't go on ubuntu I believe.
[06:17] <robertzaccour> Elesa: right clicking on the wallpaper itself to bring up option settings
[06:17] <Elesa> robertzaccour: Guess what.. GNOME SHELL HAS NO DESKTOP! YAY! .__.
[06:17] <myhero> Elesa: what u'll say about mint....someone just suggested it in pm
[06:17] <Elesa> You have to change it on System Settings.
[06:18] <toobluesc> do it
[06:18] <robertzaccour> Elesa: it works fine when insstalled on Ubuntu, but not in Gnome Shell Remix itself. What could the difference be?
[06:18] <robertzaccour> *installed
[06:18] <niranjan> Hi there, trying to use find command to find executable in my project. Using find . -executable -name "whatIamLooking" but it includes directories. How do I exclude directories
[06:18] <someprimetime> i just reconfigured my postfix settings and added the domain that i'm sending mail from to the list of allowed domains that mail will be sent from and i'm finding that using php's mail() still sends all my emails to my spam folder
[06:19] <Elesa> Oh.. I don't know, older GNOME Shell version maybe? I haven't used it a lot, so I'm just guessing, sorry. But honestly, if you want to use GNOME 3 in a better way, just install Cinnamon.
[06:19] <Elesa> myhero: that is a good option too.
[06:19] <smw> niranjan, -type f ?
[06:19] <smw> niranjan, that is what comes off the top of my head.
[06:19] <niranjan> smw: Thanks it works, feel so stuipd, I knew about -f
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> bad advice with a user not even knowing what the other is talking about Elesa
[06:19] <myhero> Elesa: yea..he suggested mint with cinnamon
[06:19] <niranjan> Thanks
[06:19] <codemaniac> niranjan: your find commandline searches into the current dir only .
[06:20] <niranjan> Yes, I know which directory to look for
[06:20] <niranjan> But its too deep
[06:20] <codemaniac> niranjan: you need to orivide the path to find
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> this is gnome-shell-remix and it is not supported here. http://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/download/
[06:21] <codemaniac> find /path/to/dir like that
[06:21] <robertzaccour> Elesa: I don't really like cinnamon or unity tbh
[06:21] <niranjan> codemaniac: thank you.
[06:21] <codemaniac> find /path/to/dir -name "binfile" -print like that
[06:21] <myhero> robertzaccour: y not...any problems with cinnamon ?? unity i can understand...
[06:21] <Elesa> myhero: Does your graphics card support 3D acceleration?
[06:21] <jeep> robertzaccour: fluxbox is what ubuntu users use when they get older ;)
[06:22] <myhero> Elesa:  yeah.....it seems so ...its xfx raedeon hd4870
[06:22] <Elesa> Is it normal for a simple partition resize to take more than 1 hour? I'm resizing a 300 GB partition to 150 GB >_>
[06:23] <Elesa> myhero: you could try it then, but Linux Mint with Cinnamon is not supported here. xD
[06:23] <robertzaccour> myhero: I just prefer gnome-shell. I love how its so simplistic and "out of the way". Also like being able to click on something, drag it into the upper left corner, and drop it into one of the "expose style" windows of open apps displayed on the screen.
[06:24] <myhero> robertzaccour: i agree...
[06:24] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, I would use the ubuntu install of gnome-shell the remix ix not supported here.
[06:24] <wilee-nilee> is*
[06:25] <myhero> Elesa: pm..
[06:25] <danny> what was the last Ubuntu release to ship with plain old Gnome 2?
[06:25] <Elesa> 11.04
[06:26] <robertzaccour> wilee-nilee: I know, I was just curious why shell is slightly more functional when installed in Ubuntu than in Ubuntu Gnome Shell Remix itself. The right-clicking on the desktop wallpaper I mean.
[06:26] <danny> thanks Elesa
[06:27] <SorcererX> anyone experienced Ubuntu LTS 12.04.1 making a system completely unable to post? I have two laptops (Samsung 530U3C that I booted from a USB stick created from usb-creator-gtk out of the ubuntu iso) and when I pressed "Install" in grub, the system just worked for a while, showed a blank screen.. and I had to use the button to power it down, and the system never showed the BIOS screen when the power button was pressed (the power LED do
[06:27] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, Install the gnome-tweak tool it may be something to do with nautilus controlling the desktop, there is a switch in the tweak.
[06:27] <Elesa> Yes?
[06:27] <Psi-Jack> SorcererX: Unable to "post?"
[06:27] <SorcererX> so I thought I had a faulty laptop, got a new one, tried the Ubuntu install, and that system is now unpostable too
[06:27] <SorcererX> Psi-Jack: it does not show the Samsung BIOS screen
[06:27] <Elesa> danny: for what?
[06:27] <SorcererX> the screen does not turn on
[06:27] <Psi-Jack> SorcererX: That's not related to Linux at all.
[06:27] <robertzaccour> wilee-nilee: oh ok thanks. I plan on adding the min/max buttons anyways
[06:28] <SorcererX> Psi-Jack: that is what I thought, untill I tried to install it on a second laptop
[06:28] <SorcererX> but yes, I doubt it is Linuxs fault, but there must be something weird that it does
[06:28] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, I wiuld support you here but some might not is all. ;)
[06:28] <Psi-Jack> SorcererX: Should look into BIOS updates.
[06:28] <wilee-nilee> would*
[06:28] <SorcererX> Psi-Jack: it is not possible to update the BIOS, the system does not get that far.
[06:28] <danny> Elesa, i asked what the last ubuntu release to ship with plain old gnome 2 was and you said 11.0.4
[06:29] <raymond> SorcererX, so, you're not getting any logo at all?
[06:29] <tiger_> how do i disable journaling in xfs ?
[06:29] <Elesa> danny: oh right.. lol, no problem!
[06:29] <Psi-Jack> tiger_: ALways a horrible idea.
[06:29] <SorcererX> raymond: no, no power to the screen, and external display shows nothing
[06:30] <raymond> SorcererX, wow.  tried the battery trick?  Unplug the laptop, pop out the battery.  Hold the power button down for about 30 seconds to a minute, then plug the laptop in w/o the battery and try to turn it on.
[06:30] <tiger_> Psi-Jack: Have any idea ?
[06:30] <SorcererX> raymond: I am guessing it must have wrote something to the internal SSD (not user serviceable) that the system just refuses to start from, that is about the only thing that is writeable
[06:30] <SorcererX> raymond: yes, I have tried that too
[06:30] <Psi-Jack> tiger_: You don't. XFS is a journaling filesystem.
[06:30] <if124> tiger_ : Why would you want to do that
[06:30] <if124> ?
[06:31] <Elesa> Is it normal for a simple partition resize to take more than 1 hour? I'm resizing a 300 GB partition to 150 GB >_>
[06:31] <SorcererX> Elesa: yes.
[06:32] <Elesa> =/
[06:32] <tiger_> Psi-Jack: I had my gentoo system installed on flash driver
[06:32] <SorcererX> raymond: I suppose I will have to send an email to Samsung first, as there is no point in getting a third laptop and having the same thing happen again. heh
[06:32] <scott_z> does anyone know anything about the classicmenu-indicator?
[06:32] <if124> tiger_: see this email http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2009-01/msg01155.html
[06:32] <Psi-Jack> tiger_: That's nice. Point?
[06:32] <tiger_> Psi-Jack: with xfs
[06:33] <Psi-Jack> tiger_: And?
[06:33] <tiger_> and I dont want have hight i/o operation
[06:34] <Psi-Jack> tiger_: That's nice. But XFS is a journaling filesystem. The journal is /part/ of it, unlike ext3/4 where it's optional.
[06:34] <napster> Elesa: If you have data in that partition it could take time
[06:34] <Psi-Jack> journaling doesn't really add any i/o overhead, either.
[06:34] <Elesa> well, it has 148 GB of data
[06:35] <DanTheBeastMan> My wireless is running on eth0, any idea how to change it to wlan0?
[06:35] <napster> Elesa: So it will take time usually
[06:35] <tiger_> Psi-Jack: Ok,  maybe i can changed it to ext4 filesystem.
[06:36] <napster> DanTheBeastMan: Why should you do that?
[06:36] <wilee-nilee> Elesa, Yeah especially if you reduce it to 2 gigs more than the data, not a wise move really, any partition should be at the most abot 70% full to run efficiently.
[06:36] <freezys> DanTheBeastMan, same problem with me :(
[06:37] <DanTheBeastMan> napster: well for one, a few programs I use won't measure signal strenth from what it thinks is a wired connection
[06:37] <Elesa> wilee-nilee: I see.. I just wanted to copy /home from it to a new partition and tell the installer to use that new partition as /home.. sigh
[06:37] <DanTheBeastMan> interestingly, Debian and Arch all configure it correctly on wlan0
[06:38] <napster> DanTheBeastMan: Its actually just a nam
[06:38] <napster> *name
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> Elesa, You will probably be okay it just takes awhile to resize that much.
[06:39] <Elesa> I hope so, because I'm growing tired..
[06:40] <lauratika> can open vpn make some websites wont load at all?
[06:41] <myhero1> Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to myhero1) from frigg....what it means...coming everytime i connect with irc network
[06:41] <DanTheBeastMan> well, neither conky or awesome correctly display wireless strength when wireless is running on ethX. boot into Debian, wireless runs on wlan0, both programs work as expected
[06:42] <lauratika> is there a openvpn channel?
[06:43] <Elesa> And it's done! <3
[06:46] <codemaniac> myhero1: it is a utility bot at this network , nothing to worry about
[06:46] <ramsrambo> trying to install ubuntu on a HDD with win 7 prof and Win 8 on VHD --- Ubuntu does not recognize any partitions on the win HDD need help
[06:46] <myhero1> ok
[06:47] <johnjacobjingerh> omg something terrible just happened... i bought a brand new Dell Precision M4700... i was so excited to finally get it and of course right away got ubuntu ready.. well long story short on my way up the stairs to go get my ubuntu disk.. i was carrying my laptop and all of the sudden i dropped it and it tumbled 3 flights of stairs... now it's all messed up
[06:47] <johnjacobjingerh> :-(
[06:47] <codemaniac> it checks if your irc client has some sucurity flaws myhero1
[06:47] <myhero1> ok
[06:48] <jeep> johnjacobjingerh: is the ubuntu disk ok ?
[06:48] <myhero1> codemaniac: so how i know if there is any flaw into it or not ?
[06:48] <johnjacobjingerh> jeep.. yes
[06:48] <myhero1> Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to myhero1) from frigg
[06:48] <codemaniac> myhero1: you dont need to , frigg will tell if you have one
[06:48] <codemaniac> :)
[06:48] <johnjacobjingerh> dell not so much...  good thing i took the accidental protection
[06:49] <myhero1> coellobranco: if it doent tells anything then it means i m ok......and before i never got that message
[06:49] <johnjacobjingerh> but they want me to send it into the repair place to get fixed
[06:49] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[06:49] <johnjacobjingerh> bleh
[06:49] <myhero1> codemaniac:  if it doent tells anything then it means i m ok......and before i never got that message
[06:49] <jeep> johnjacobjingerh: so in a week or two when you have it back .. then you can install ubuntu
[06:49] <Elesa> I have a big question, why does Nautilus say that this computer's two home folders are like 60 GB together, yet they are 142 GB when I try to copy them? >__>
[06:49] <johnjacobjingerh> yea, but i remember dell use to come to u to fix it
[06:49] <codemaniac> myhero1: its ok if it does not twll anything ,
[06:49] <ramsrambo> trying to install ubuntu on a HDD with win 7 prof and Win 8 on VHD --- Ubuntu does not recognize any partitions on the win HDD need help
[06:49] <johnjacobjingerh> :-\
[06:49] <Elesa> Deja Dup's backup was even less than that.
[06:50] <myhero1> codemaniac: ok
[06:50] <randi> hey guys/gals.. happen to be any wifi gurus in here?
[06:50] <johnjacobjingerh> ramsramdo what is the virtual program u are using?
[06:50] <codemaniac> it was brought back from sleep after some years :)
[06:50] <randi> I have checked out every website on the interwebz trying to figure soemthing out
[06:50] <ShapeShifter499> I see ubuntu just released the newest kernel 3.5 on ubuntu 12.04 is this different then the 3.5 found at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?
[06:50] <ramsrambo> john: I am using a VHD
[06:51] <DanTheBeastMan> randi: what is your problem
[06:51] <johnjacobjingerh> ramsrambo, yes.. what created the vhd? VMWARE? Virtual PC? VBOX?
[06:51] <myhero1> randi: wer u frm ??
[06:51] <randi> I am currently not getting an option for wireless at all and when I run iwconfig wlan0 does not show up
[06:51] <randi> atlanta
[06:51] <ramsrambo> John: microsoft win 7
[06:51]  * johnjacobjingerh smacks head
[06:52] <ramsrambo> john : created the VHD
[06:52] <jeep> ShapeShifter499: im gonna guess different
[06:52] <randi> myhero1: lol don't tell me that I know you
[06:52] <jeep> ShapeShifter499: kernels are pretty easy to compile try the newest from kernel.org its fun !
[06:52] <johnjacobjingerh> ramsrambo are you trying to run ubuntu inside Windows?
[06:52] <DanTheBeastMan> randi: post results of `lspci|grep -i network`
[06:52] <Elesa> I have a big question, why does Nautilus say that this computer's two home folders are like 60 GB together, yet they are 142 GB when I try to copy them? >__>
[06:52] <myhero1> randi: lo...no not at all
[06:52] <myhero1> lol*
[06:52] <johnjacobjingerh> ramsrambo, i.e. at the same time as windows in side a virtual machine
[06:53] <randi> DanTheBeastMan, nothing shows up at all
[06:53] <Aussie_Matt> hi all, does anyone have experience with software raid?
[06:54] <ramsrambo> john :  no a seprate partition was created with disk mgmt in Win 7
[06:54] <johnjacobjingerh> ah yea.. dont do that
[06:54] <DanTheBeastMan> randi: pastebin `lspci -kvv`
[06:54] <johnjacobjingerh> that wont work ramsrambo... they are VIRTUAL hard disks
[06:54] <ShapeShifter499> jeep, would this mean that its has been edited for better ubuntu compatibility now since its release at  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ?
[06:54] <johnjacobjingerh> they arent real.. u want to partition the hard drive with gparted or something
[06:55] <ramsrambo> john :  well I able to dual boot my machine from VHD
[06:55] <johnjacobjingerh> no you cant
[06:55] <johnjacobjingerh> vhds are for virtual machines
[06:55] <johnjacobjingerh> u are not running it inside windows, you want to run it seperately
[06:55] <ramsrambo> john :  I have been booting that from a long time now
[06:55] <ShapeShifter499> I'm just looking for the best and newest
[06:55] <DanTheBeastMan> it is possible to have grub boot a virtualbox image
[06:56] <jeep> ShapeShifter499: only way to know is to read the changelog
[06:56] <jeep> ShapeShifter499: its safe to assume they wouldnt make it worse
[06:56] <johnjacobjingerh> i dont understand how that can be ramsrambo
[06:56] <ramsrambo> john :  when I start my machine I am prompted with a selection menu for Win 7 and Win 8
[06:57] <johnjacobjingerh> ok well perhaps VHD is the wrong term then?
[06:57] <johnjacobjingerh> cuz a VHD is a "Virtual Hard Drive"
[06:57] <johnjacobjingerh> usually used by virtual machines...
[06:57] <randi> DanTheBeastMan, http://pastebin.com/3TN4wYXa
[06:57] <johnjacobjingerh> u have actual physical partitions
[06:57] <ramsrambo> John :  that is corrected it is mounted as VHD in disk mgmt and assigned a drive letter
[06:58] <johnjacobjingerh> ramsrambo, have u tried to see the partitions with gparted before installing with windows?
[06:58] <mohit> hi, I sometimes cannot load ubuntu during startup,  it gets stuck at ubuntu loading screen for long time, untill i restart. I am having dual boot: ubuntu 12.04 and windows 7 on sony vaio vpceh.  Moreover, I loads up on the restart.
[06:58] <ShapeShifter499> jeep but I'm kind of scared of touching my system now, I installed the latest 3.6 you can find at  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ plus the bleeding edge graphics from the xorg-edgers PPA and I'm crossing my fingers but I haven't had a crash or unexpected shutdown yet
[06:58] <ramsrambo> John : on the physical drive it will be one huge file only on the NTFS
[06:58] <Elesa> I have a big question, why does Nautilus say that this computer's two home folders are like 60 GB together, yet they are 142 GB when I try to copy them? >__>
[06:59] <johnjacobjingerh> yes exactly cuz you didnt make physical partitions ramsrambo
[06:59] <johnjacobjingerh> you made VIRTUAL partitions
[06:59] <johnjacobjingerh> which only windows 7 can see
[06:59] <johnjacobjingerh> since thats what you created them in
[06:59] <johnjacobjingerh> u need to physically partition the drive
[06:59] <johnjacobjingerh> not use VHD
[07:00] <ramsrambo> John : it is 1 single disk of 500gb
[07:00] <johnjacobjingerh> yes so partition it
[07:00] <johnjacobjingerh> with gparted
[07:00] <johnjacobjingerh> VHD is not what you think it is
[07:00] <johnjacobjingerh> it's virtually partitioning it, not physically partition it
[07:00] <ramsrambo> john : so I shrunk the partition to get the free space and I made that free space as vhd and mounted it on disk mgmt
[07:00] <johnjacobjingerh> yes but inside WINDOWS
[07:00] <johnjacobjingerh> that wont work
[07:01] <johnjacobjingerh> cuz it's not a real partition
[07:01] <johnjacobjingerh> it's virtual
[07:01] <johnjacobjingerh> only windows can see
[07:01] <FloodBot1> johnjacobjingerh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:01] <jeep> ShapeShifter499: you should be fine  if there is somethign drastic gonna happen its usually at boot
[07:01] <ramsrambo> john : I have made it bootable and it is working fine
[07:01] <johnjacobjingerh> unless someone here corrects me
[07:01] <johnjacobjingerh> but i'm sure using disk management to partition it wont work like that (if it's a VHD)
[07:02] <randi> DanTheBeastMan, I am using a Netgear WNDA3100 v2 usb wifi adapter if that helps at all
[07:02] <ramsrambo> john : I have again shrunk the HDD to get free space of 40 gb
[07:02] <johnjacobjingerh> ramsrambo, you said it wasnt working?
[07:02] <ramsrambo> John : I want ubuntu to be installed on this free space of 40gb
[07:02] <DanTheBeastMan> randi: oh snaps, well this explains a lot. I trust you've googled for linux drivers?
[07:03] <johnjacobjingerh> if gparted is only sees it as 1 whole 500GB then you didnt partition it
[07:03] <randi> yes
[07:03] <johnjacobjingerh> hence why you cant install ubuntu the way you want to
[07:03] <johnjacobjingerh> best to create the partitions with gparted
[07:03] <ramsrambo> john : when I boot to live CD ubuntu is not recognizing that free space or any partition created in Windows
[07:03] <johnjacobjingerh> not windows disk manager
[07:03] <johnjacobjingerh> yes cuz it was created in Windows
[07:03] <randi> DanTheBeastMan, I've seen about a thousand different ways to fix it but none have worked
[07:03] <johnjacobjingerh> they arent really there
[07:03] <johnjacobjingerh> only windows can see them, thats how virtual hard drives work
[07:04] <ShapeShifter499> jeep, I'll give them a test then
[07:04] <johnjacobjingerh> you didnt make it a physical or logical partition
[07:04] <ramsrambo> John : but the partitions are existing on that HDD
[07:04] <ShapeShifter499> I'll leave the 3.6 installed just in case, so I can go back to those if something goes wrong
[07:04] <johnjacobjingerh> no they aren't only in windows
[07:04] <johnjacobjingerh> windows is FAKING them