[01:23] <callmepk> good morning
[02:52] <duflu> Oh hi callmepk  :)
[02:54] <callmepk> hey duflu
[02:59] <jamesh> hi duflu, callmepk
[03:00] <callmepk> hey jamesh
[03:03] <duflu> Morning jamesh
[04:35] <jibel> Good morning all
[05:18] <duflu> Morning jibel
[05:43] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[05:48] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN
[05:50] <jibel> Hi duflu and oSoMoN
[05:58] <oSoMoN> hey duflu, salut jibel
[05:59] <didrocks> good morning
[06:07] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[06:26] <sentinel__> hello all
[06:33] <duflu> Morning didrocks, sentinel__
[07:04] <sentinel__> Top 'o the marning duflu
[07:24] <marcustomlinson> morning all
[07:26] <didrocks> hey UK early (UK late will be for Laney :p)
[07:26] <marcustomlinson> :)
[07:27] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:27] <marcustomlinson> morning didrocks and seb128
[07:28] <duflu> Morning marcustomlinson and seb128
[07:28] <marcustomlinson> seb128: please forgive me for not getting to vte+gt yet :/ I promise I'll carve out time this week for it
[07:32] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson, duflu , how are you?
[07:33] <duflu> seb128, going well. You?
[07:33] <seb128> marcustomlinson, no worry, the positive aspect is that 38.0 is out and Debian did the updates already so you just need to do merges and no need to do the .9x and then .0 :-)
[07:33] <marcustomlinson> sprained my wrist playing with my son yesterday, so it's a bit ouchy on the keyboard today :( otherwise well
[07:33] <seb128> duflu, I'm alright, a bit tired
[07:34] <seb128> marcustomlinson, :-(
[07:37] <seb128> one day I will stop doing ctrl-shift-C in firefox and open the debugged when copying things between the browser and a command line
[07:50] <seb128> duflu, is the new bluez something we want in this cycle?
[07:50] <duflu> Ugh. I check for that almost every day but didn't today
[07:50] <seb128> (weird that they rolled a tarball but didn't post on their website about it)
[07:50] <seb128> according to version there is a tarball out for over a week
[07:51] <duflu> seb128, I can't think of any fixes we're waiting for so I would not risk it, probably. What's the URL?
[07:52]  * duflu finds it
[07:52] <seb128> duflu, https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/pub/linux/bluetooth/
[07:53] <duflu> seb128, the changelog shows a lot more fixes than usual. So yes maybe.
[07:53] <duflu> I will have a stab at it this week
[07:54] <seb128> thanks
[07:55] <sentinel__> g'morning from chattanooga tennessee
[07:56] <duflu> Oh I have a graphical login screen on my Pi 4. Let me test that first
[08:05] <Laney> sup
[08:05] <didrocks> hey later UK :)
[08:06] <Laney> was putting some spider plant babies outside in case anybody passing by wants a new house plant
[08:06] <Laney> those things know how to multiply
[08:07] <duflu> Hi Laney
[08:08] <didrocks> oh right, those are really growing up quickly
[08:08] <seb128> hey Laney , how are you?
[08:09] <Laney> ah yes
[08:09] <Laney> hey didrocks duflu seb128!
[08:09] <Laney> doing alright thanks
[08:09] <Laney> you? good days off?
[08:10] <seb128> friday was nice, yesterday was just trying to go through the day after a 3 hours sleep and with noisy kids around
[08:11] <seb128> w.e was nice enough, it's warm and sunny and we had friends for lunch on sunday which was fun
[08:13] <Laney> nice, yeah the weekend was G R E A T
[08:13] <Laney> sorry about yesterday though
[08:13] <Laney> not a good use of vac days
[08:13] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[08:13] <jibel> mpt, hi, I updated the link on the error dialog and filed a PR to update the link. If there is nothing else, i'll merge it so we can do release before Thursday.
[08:14] <Laney> moin marcustomlinson
[08:14] <Laney> what up
[08:23] <marcustomlinson> Laney: carrying on I guess.  I have submitted the Feature Freeze Exception request for wslu and sent you via the mail
[08:26] <Laney> moin callmepk moin oSoMoN
[08:26] <oSoMoN> seb128, bien, et toi?
[08:27] <seb128> callmepk, I saw, I was off yesterday but I will try to have a look today
[08:27] <oSoMoN> second day of school for my eldest, and so far so good :)
[08:27] <seb128> oSoMoN, ça va, un peu fatigué et je dirais pas non à du calme mais on s'habitue :-)
[08:27] <callmepk> seb128 nice and thanks!
[08:45] <Laney> oSoMoN: checking the gvfs thing now
[08:45] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[08:46] <Laney> ah yes, I should look at Gunnar's thing too
[08:56] <mpt> jibel, thanks, I see there’s some disagreement about the URL so I’ll follow up with Web team colleagues and get back to you ASAP
[09:17] <mpt> jibel, sorry I didn’t realize this before, but … The other two places where we have a redirect like this, we put it on help.ubuntu.com rather than ubuntu.com. So I guess help.ubuntu.com/activedirectory would be better.
[09:19] <jibel> mpt, okay, np, I'll change the link. not prefixed by https, correct?
[09:20] <mpt> jibel, right, not a complete URL because it’s something we want people to write down / photograph and visit later, rather than visiting now
[09:20] <jibel> understood, just wanted a confirmation
[09:23] <Mirv> oSoMoN: oh btw not sure if you've looked into backporting Thunderbird 78 yet, but I managed to do so with a couple of patches for focal and bionic at https://launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/+archive/ubuntu/thunderbird78/+packages - I've attached debdiffs to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/1895643 to help you if you haven't looked at it at all yet
[09:24] <oSoMoN> hi Mirv, and thanks! I haven't worked on it yet, but it's on my to-do list
[09:26] <jibel> mpt, mp updated with help.u.c/...
[09:26] <seb128> there is also the snap that works on older series :-)
[09:29] <oSoMoN> yes, that's a much simpler way to get a brand new thunderbird on stable releases!
[09:29] <mpt> jibel, that was quick!
[09:34] <oSoMoN> thanks Laney
[09:35] <oSoMoN> should I update ubuntu-meta now?
[09:35] <Laney> I'm doing it :>
[09:35] <Laney> are/did you handle the other seeds/packages?
[09:35] <oSoMoN> not yet, that's next on my list
[09:37] <Laney> nod
[09:37] <Trevinho> hi seb128
[09:39] <Laney> bah
[09:39] <Laney> someone nearby is burning stuff
[09:40] <Laney> this is not a day to have the windows closed, also we have clothes drying outside >:(
[09:40] <Laney> hey Trevinho
[09:40] <Trevinho> hi Laney!
[09:41] <oSoMoN> buon giorno Trevinho
[09:42] <duflu> Morning Trevinho
[09:42] <Trevinho> hola oSoMoN! Que tal en Cataluña?
[09:42] <Trevinho> hey duflu
[09:42] <oSoMoN> all good, kids are back to school, and it feels good (while it lasts)
[09:59] <duflu> seb128, it seems to work with my devices in groovy. Done. bug 1895640
[10:00] <duflu> It also claims to be bug fixes only
[10:13] <jibel> Laney, can you do a release of Ubiquity on Groovy when you have time. There are 3 things in it: 1. Fix for xdg-open on Kubuntu 2. Removal of apt-clone 3. Active directory
[10:32] <seb128> Trevinho, hey! how are you?
[10:32] <Trevinho> seb128: hey, good, fighting with a weird unconsistent build failure, but good :)
[10:33] <seb128> Trevinho, did you seethat totem-pl-parser failed to build?
[10:34] <seb128> Trevinho, thanks for stepping up and doing GNOME updates outside of your usual stack btw, I really appreciate getting some help there!
[10:52] <luna_> Desktop Meeting this afternoon right?
[10:55] <Laney> jibel: sure, can look later
[10:55] <Laney> you have done the changelog?
[10:58] <Laney> luna_: yeah
[11:15] <jibel> Laney, IIRC xnox did something to generate it from git log?
[11:15] <jibel> I don't know how it works. Otherwise update it.
[11:57] <didrocks> the changelog generation doesn’t take the github co-autor-commit though!
[12:51] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah, that was the annoying build thingy :)
[12:51] <Trevinho> seb128: and nw, I noticed there were some basic ones, so just went through
[12:53] <Trevinho> desktoppers: Laney has a tip that is be very useful for anyone that has to (git-)merge packages with debian and is sick with the changelog conflicts, so do that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/git#Automerging_changelogs (and beaware of the eopchs)
[12:54] <Trevinho> s/be//
[12:56] <seb128> Trevinho, thanks
[13:03] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center tags 02ae64e Sebastien Bacher upstream/3.38.0 * Upstream version 3.38.0 * https://deb.li/3xFaG
[13:04] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center pristine-tar 4a7bf12 Sebastien Bacher gnome-control-center_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-control-center_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-control-center_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3C3wM
[13:04] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center upstream/latest 06b5b33 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 14 commits * https://deb.li/syoy
[13:29] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[13:29] <kenvandine> good morning
[13:29] <luna_> good afternoon
[13:29] <oSoMoN> hey hellsworth, kenvandine
[13:30] <hellsworth> hi guys
[13:30] <seb128> ok, it's meeting time!
[13:30] <luna_> #startmeeting
[13:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 15 13:30:59 2020 UTC.  The chair is luna_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:31] <seb128> #endmeeting
[13:31] <luna_> #endmeeting
[13:31] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep 15 13:31:23 2020 UTC.
[13:31] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-09-15-13.30.moin.txt
[13:31] <seb128> luna_, could you #endmeeting please?
[13:31] <seb128> thanks
[13:31] <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-09-15
[13:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 15 13:31:29 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:31] <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk
[13:31] <oSoMoN> o/
[13:31] <marcustomlinson> \o
[13:31] <hellsworth> o/
[13:31] <luna_> o/
[13:31] <Trevinho> o/
[13:31] <callmepk> o/
[13:32] <jibel> \o
[13:32] <seb128> ok, enough people around, let's get started
[13:32] <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug
[13:33] <luna_> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html ?
[13:33] <oSoMoN> we lost the chair
[13:33] <Laney> lol
[13:33] <Laney> luna_: take over!
[13:33] <Laney> (joking)
[13:33] <kenvandine> o/
[13:33] <seb128> sorry, wrong time disconnect
[13:34] <luna_> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html i think right?
[13:34] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:34] <seb128> no desktop entry
[13:34] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:34] <seb128> only assigned items
[13:34] <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug
[13:34] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:35] <seb128> those are assigned just need cleaning
[13:35] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:35] <seb128> bug #1892657
[13:36] <seb128> unsure if it's high priority enough but there is an understood patch and someone made a debdiff, I will handle and sponsor the change
[13:36] <seb128> and that's it for focal
[13:36] <seb128> #topic rls-gg-bug
[13:37] <seb128> bug #1881699 is back there
[13:37] <seb128> the issue seems specific to that one config so I don't think it qualifies for rls
[13:37] <seb128> I vote -notfixing
[13:38] <luna_> works for me with my soundcard
[13:38] <seb128> jibel, you should try to talk directly to Kai I think
[13:38] <seb128> other opinions?
[13:39] <didrocks999> (annoying disconnections…)
[13:39] <seb128> k, no opinion, I tagged notifixing and moving on
[13:39] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:39] <jibel> seb128, it may be fixed in 5.9
[13:40] <seb128> would be nice!
[13:40] <seb128> the items there as assigned
[13:40] <Laney> sounds good to me, I think jibel can track it with KHF
[13:40] <jibel> so waiting for a new kernel, it's something about the pins of the card
[13:40] <Laney> notfixing indeed
[13:40] <seb128> if we are confident it's the kernel we should probably invalid the pulseaudio side
[13:40] <seb128> anyway, moving on to the next section, thanks for the details!
[13:40] <jibel> in the mean time I bought a usb sound card
[13:41] <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[13:41] <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[13:41] <seb128> dnsmasq still, that's waiting on the server team to upload a fix now if I followed correctly
[13:41] <Laney> yeah, Heather can poke them if needed
[13:41] <hellsworth> that's as i understand it too
[13:42] <seb128> gstreamer needs merges that Locutusofborg said he would do today or tomorrow
[13:42] <seb128> stack of i386 issues due to the new glibc
[13:42] <hellsworth> ok yes i'll go poke the server team :)
[13:42] <seb128> poppler should we fine one libreoffice on arm is done with the autopkgtest
[13:43] <seb128> and I think that's it
[13:43] <seb128> #topic AOB
[13:43] <seb128> GNOME 3.38.0 is out, updates are being worked on, as usual if you want to help please do, https://trello.com/b/sdyPskaS/gnome-338
[13:43] <seb128> anything else?
[13:44] <luna_> maybe someone should update the topic with .38 ?
[13:44] <Trevinho> all good here
[13:44] <didrocks999> nothing here, just annoying that the MIR meeting is now after the desktop team one and so, I can’t relay immediately if there is any issue (well, there is still the c-m issue with gnome-software and the subscription for the -fonts stuff)
[13:44] <Laney> luna_: do it, the topic is not locked
[13:44] <Laney> well maybe after #endmeeting or it might get reverted
[13:44] <luna_> alright will do
[13:45] <Laney> didrocks999: did anyone commit the change I suggested for the gnome-software thing?
[13:45] <Laney> if not, I guess that's an AOB item for someone to take that task :>
[13:45] <didrocks999> Laney: I don’t think so, volonteering as you came up with fix ? :)
[13:46] <Laney> spreading the seed knowledge
[13:46] <kenvandine> speaking of... i'd appreciate some testing of snap-store from the beta channel
[13:46] <didrocks999> sounds like a not, I will reread the discussion and do it then
[13:46] <kenvandine> on focal and groovy
[13:46] <Laney> actually would be good if someone *new* to seeds took the task rather than me or didrocks999
[13:46] <kenvandine> specifically looking at firmware updates and ensuring apt package search and install works
[13:47] <seb128> right, any taker to learn about seeds and do the change Laney suggested?
[13:47] <oSoMoN> seb128, can do
[13:47] <luna_> kenvandine: can try to help you with that, if you give me some directions
[13:47] <Laney> I'll find the log reference, one minute
[13:47] <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks
[13:47] <didrocks999> I have it
[13:48] <oSoMoN> can you point me to the conversation for some background?
[13:48] <didrocks999> just need to find the remote url
[13:48] <Laney> ah great
[13:48] <didrocks999> will paste post-meeting
[13:48] <oSoMoN> ack
[13:48] <seb128> ok,  let's wrap and we can keep discussing post meeting
[13:48] <seb128> #endmeeting
[13:48] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep 15 13:48:44 2020 UTC.
[13:48] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-09-15-13.31.moin.txt
[13:49] <Laney> merci
[13:49] <luna_> do you wanna keep the 3.36 in the topic aswell ? or should it just be changed to 3.38 ?
[13:49] <didrocks999> thanks!
[13:49] <Laney> 3.38
[13:49] <luna_> alright
[13:49] <Laney> is that link even right?
[13:49] <Laney> it should be https://trello.com/b/sdyPskaS/gnome-338 now
[13:49] <didrocks999> oSoMoN: the start of the discussion, background, what we tried is at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2020/09/09/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t08:57, Laney’s suggestion is https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2020/09/09/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t13:15
[13:49] <kenvandine> luna_: killall snap-store && snap refresh --beta snap-store
[13:49] <luna_> fixed :)
[13:49] <seb128> luna_, thanks!
[13:49] <Laney> not quite :p
[13:50] <kenvandine> then launch snap-store and browse around and if you have firmware that is updatable ensure it's listed under updates
[13:50] <didrocks999> (and no, don’t worry, we didn’t talk about it for 4h30 :p)
[13:50] <didrocks999> just that lunch was a good advisor for Laney :)
[13:51] <oSoMoN> lunch always helps
[13:51] <didrocks999> oSoMoN: happy to review/merge and we can then check c-m after a seed
[13:51] <didrocks999> germination*
[13:51] <oSoMoN> ok, I'll take a look at that shortly
[13:51] <didrocks999> thx!
[13:52] <luna_> kenvandine: got it installed now and could launch it but not install anything as i did not launch it as a root i think?
[13:52] <kenvandine> doesn't need root
[13:52] <kenvandine> luna_: what happened?
[13:53] <luna_> kenvandine: tried installing gwenview but said i did not have rights
[13:53] <luna_> https://i.imgur.com/OnJXsII.png
[13:54] <kenvandine> you should get a polkit dialog for auth
[13:54] <luna_> also sorry for Swedish
[13:54] <luna_> maybe it does not show it when running awesome as a wm :p
[13:55] <kenvandine> might not
[13:55] <hellsworth> Laney: seb128 I've ping'd server team on dnsmasq and will see what they say..
[13:55] <luna_> could restart into gnome and try
[13:55] <luna_> brb
[13:56] <seb128> hellsworth, thanks!
[13:56] <hellsworth> np
[13:57] <luna_> kenvandine: yep that worked
[13:57] <kenvandine> great
[13:59] <marcustomlinson> kenvandine: is there no install progress for apt packages?
[13:59] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center signed tags 35ffa8a Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/1%3.38.0-1ubuntu1 * gnome-control-center Debian release 1:3.38.0-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/XCiz
[13:59] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 1492ff6 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 80 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/ikycs
[13:59] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 45577ff Simon McVittie debian/ control control.in * Update libhandy dependency * https://deb.li/tCWC
[13:59] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 0d4ff19 Simon McVittie debian/copyright * d/copyright: Update * https://deb.li/3ry8G
[13:59] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 43ef0e1 Simon McVittie debian/ control control.in * Add Breaks on gnome-shell (<< 3.37.92) * https://deb.li/y1Lc
[14:00] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master a2bdb7c Simon McVittie debian/ control control.in * Depend on gnome-settings-daemon 3.37.x * https://deb.li/3Xg6y
[14:00] <marcustomlinson> kenvandine: oh, hmm, I installed vlc and got no progress, removed it and installed again and saw progress
[14:00] <kenvandine> luna_: can you browse what's installed and see packages that are installed as debs?
[14:00] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 5bd78bf Simon McVittie debian/changelog * Update changelog * https://deb.li/J3Zd
[14:00] <kenvandine> marcustomlinson: weird...
[14:00] <oSoMoN> can a MOTU please sponsor https://people.canonical.com/~osomon/sponsoring/folder-color-common.debdiff ?
[14:00] <KGB-1> mutter pristine-tar 65ca369 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) mutter_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz.delta mutter_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for mutter_3.38.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3wmV
[14:00] <KGB-1> mutter upstream/latest 2b3d403 Marco Trevisan * pushed 13 commits * https://deb.li/zHuN
[14:02] <luna_> kenvandine: yep
[14:03] <marcustomlinson> kenvandine: of course now without fail I see progress, tried rebooting and still progress seems to be fine
[14:03] <kenvandine> lol
[14:03] <marcustomlinson> focal and groovy. apt packages are listed
[14:04] <kenvandine> great, thanks
[14:06] <marcustomlinson> kenvandine: ah, it seems like the first time you install something you don't get progress for either install or remove. I tried something new (handbrake), and the first install / remove cycle on both focal and groovy had no progress
[14:13] <luna_> yeah listed in groovy here too
[14:21] <seb128> oSoMoN, sponsored
[14:21] <oSoMoN> seb128, thanks
[14:22] <seb128> oSoMoN, I assigned you the new librsvg update card btw, hope it's ok :-)
[14:22] <oSoMoN> yeah, I'll get to it asap
[14:23] <oSoMoN> I'm trying to wrap my head around the seed changes for gstreamer1.0-packagekit atm
[14:25] <seb128> no hurry, thx
[14:34] <marcustomlinson> kenvandine: in fact it's the same with snaps (no progress on first install), however it's not a regression, I see it on stable/ubuntu-20.04/10 too
[14:47] <xnox1> jibel:  i normally only use git-dch
[14:47] <xnox1> jibel:  if that doesn't work, make manual one
[15:04] <jibel> xnox, ah okay, I thought you used some extra magic
[15:09] <jibel> Laney, changelog is up to date
[15:19] <xnox> jibel:  any extra magic was "emacs" + typpy typpy
[15:25] <jibel> yeah, mine is called vi
[15:44] <xnox> jibel:  oooh, three letters shorter, it must be that many times worse?
[15:44] <xnox> jibel:  or is it just two times worse, cause you use vim? =)
[15:44]  * xnox ducks rolls and hides
[15:46] <ogra> tsk ...
[15:47]  * ogra simply solves the editor wars with "ln -s /usr/bin/vi /usr/bin/emacs" ...
[16:15] <oSoMoN> ogra, I think you got the order of the last two parameters wrong ;)
[16:16] <ogra> lol
[17:02] <KGB-1> adwaita-icon-theme tags bc5fe4d Iain Lane upstream/3.38.0 * Upstream version 3.38.0 * https://deb.li/32TS2
[17:03] <KGB-1> adwaita-icon-theme upstream/latest b8b4df9 Iain Lane * pushed 2 commits * https://deb.li/QhLM
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[12:33] <tony-smlr> About to go live with  SMLR E262 (1/21/2018) Video: http://youtu.be/SWaU2AVSehM
[14:21] <cmaloney> Morning
[16:28] <cmaloney> rick_h: Congrats on the house appraisal. :)
[16:28] <cmaloney> (was re: Twitter)
[16:28] <cmaloney> (JoDee is my Twitter feed now)
[17:05] <rick_h> cmaloney: heh, yea yay!
[17:05] <rick_h> cmaloney: when I was in my teens my aunt/uncle moved and in the 10 years they lived there they sold it for 2x what they bought it for
[17:05] <rick_h> cmaloney: my 10 years almost has me break even heh
[18:41] <cmaloney> welcome to the 2000s
[18:41]  * cmaloney just finished grocery shopping.
[18:42] <cmaloney> noticed a lot more shipt folks there
[20:46] <greg-g> who?
[21:00] <jrwren> rick_h: mi sucks, right?
[21:00] <jrwren> rick_h: if it makes you feel better, I still can't sell my Milan condo for what I paid for it in 2004.
[21:12] <cmaloney> greg-g: Shipt is a service that partnered with Meijer
[21:12] <cmaloney> they grocery shop for you
[21:12] <cmaloney> gig economy stuff


[19:11] <Sandig> hello
[19:11] <Sandig> i'm trying to install transmission on a fresh install of ubuntu 7.10
[19:11] <Sandig> but apparently it can't find the package in the repository
[19:11] <Sandig> i'm using "sudo apt-get install transmission"
[19:11] <Sandig> and it says "E: Couldn't find package transmission"
[19:11] <bluekuja> Sandig, is universe enabled?
[19:12] <Sandig> i think so
[19:12] <bluekuja> Sandig, check that please
[19:12] <bluekuja> /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:13] <Sandig> under applications->add/remove->preferences i have all the sources (including universe) checked and it doesn't show up there either
[19:14] <Sandig> yes it is enabled in that file
[19:17] <bluekuja> Sandig, do
[19:17] <bluekuja> apt-cache search transmission
[19:17] <bluekuja> I get transmission - free, lightweight BitTorrent client
[19:17] <bluekuja> transmission-cli - free, lightweight BitTorrent client
[19:17] <bluekuja> transmission-gtk - graphical user interface for transmission
[19:17] <Sandig> nothing
[19:17] <Sandig> well
[19:17] <bluekuja> impossible :)
[19:18] <bluekuja> Sandig, then you don't have universe on
[19:20] <Sandig> i do!
[19:20] <bluekuja> Sandig, apt-get install verlihub
[19:20] <bluekuja> for instance
[19:20] <bluekuja> what do you get?
[19:20] <Sandig> http://www.sandig.co.uk/uploads/transmission.JPG
[19:21] <Sandig> it can't find that either
[19:22] <bluekuja> Sandig, pastebin your sources.list
[19:23] <Sandig> gah
[19:23] <Sandig> i have to go
[19:23] <Sandig> i'll be back in a few hours, probably
[19:23] <bluekuja> ok, fin
[19:23] <bluekuja> e
[19:23] <Sandig> thanks for your help so far
[19:23] <bluekuja> np, let me know when back
[19:23] <Sandig> okay
[19:23] <Sandig> cheers
[21:18] <night> hey i'm trying to get the latest version of transmission 0.91 but when using synaptics the latest i get is 0.72, any ideas
[21:18] <bluekuja> night, this question got asked some days ago as well
[21:18] <bluekuja> night, which version does Debian have?
[21:19] <night> i don't know, do you mean what version do their repos have
[21:19] <bluekuja> yes
[21:20] <bluekuja> actually gutsy have
[21:20] <bluekuja> transmission | 0.72.dfsg-1 | http://it.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages
[21:20] <bluekuja> transmission | 0.72.dfsg-1 | http://it.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Sources
[21:20] <night> to be honest i'm new at this game, how do i find the address of the debian repos to add them and is there a secific one i should add
[21:21] <bluekuja> night, Package: transmission (0.91.dfsg-1)
[21:21] <bluekuja> debian got 0.91
[21:21] <night> cool how do i add this bad boy repo
[21:22] <bluekuja> night, we should ask for a sync
[21:22] <bluekuja> I need to check if there are Ubuntu remaining changes
[21:22] <bluekuja> if not
[21:22] <night> what do you mean
[21:23] <bluekuja> I mean syncing that package from debian
[21:23] <bluekuja> to have it on ubuntu
[21:23] <night> nice
[21:23] <night> linux is the beast of an OS i always hoped it would be
[21:24] <bluekuja> night, why?
[21:24] <night> cause its legend you can ask for stuff to be added,
[21:24] <night> legend
[21:24] <night> how do we ask,
[21:27] <bluekuja> night, new transmission
[21:27] <bluekuja> has been already synced
[21:27] <bluekuja> into hardy
[21:27] <bluekuja> you should ask for a backport then
[21:27] <bluekuja> :)
[21:27] <bluekuja> (if that's possible)
[21:32] <night> whats hardy
[21:32] <bluekuja> new Ubuntu release
[21:32] <bluekuja> :)
[21:37] <night> thought it was gutsyi thiught it was gutsy
[21:38] <bluekuja> development
[21:38] <bluekuja> circle is hardy
[21:38] <bluekuja> but current release is hardy
[21:39] <night> oh
[21:53] <jdong> bluekuja: ok, let me look into tranny backport
[21:54] <bluekuja> jdong, was going to ping you for it in a bit
[21:54] <bluekuja> :)
[21:54] <bluekuja> jdong, some ppl asked for latest tranny version
[21:54] <jdong> hardy has 0.90
[21:54] <jdong> let me see if that backports
[21:54] <bluekuja> yep
[21:57] <jdong> bluekuja: works
[21:57] <bluekuja> jdong, simply great
[21:57] <bluekuja> :)
[21:58] <bluekuja> jdong, want me to open a request or willing to do that on your own?
[21:58] <jdong> bluekuja: I'll do that
[21:58] <bluekuja> jdong, you rock
[21:58] <bluekuja> ;)
[21:58] <jdong> DIST=feisty prevu lp:transmission
[21:58] <jdong> oops wrong screen
[21:59] <bluekuja> hehe
[21:59]  * jdong hacked prevu to support lp:pkgname/distro syntax
[21:59] <bluekuja> oh really??
[21:59] <jdong> it goes to LP and scrapes for .dsc url's :D
[21:59] <jdong> lol
[21:59] <bluekuja> :D
[21:59] <bluekuja> is it in the hardy version?
[22:00] <jdong> nope, not yet
[22:00] <jdong> it's a bit too hackish to see the light of day yet
[22:00] <bluekuja> lol
[22:00] <bluekuja> fine ^^
[22:00] <jdong> the LP scraper is written in Ruby, and prevu itself is in python
[22:00] <bluekuja> when you have a more stable version
[22:00] <bluekuja> would be nice to test it out
[22:01] <jdong> yeah totally
[22:01] <jdong> I'm gonna rewrite the scraper in Python
[22:01] <jdong> and then we're good to go
[22:01] <jdong> I've got a prevu upload in preparation
[22:01] <bluekuja> cool, let me know when needed
[22:01] <jdong> transmissions backports to feisty too
[22:01] <bluekuja> btw I'm reading a new python book atm
[22:02] <bluekuja> it's huge
[22:02] <bluekuja> great, we can have it backported for feisty as well then
[22:06] <bluekuja> fine
[22:06] <bluekuja> going to read
[22:06] <bluekuja> cu all tomorrow
[22:07] <bluekuja> g'night
[22:07] <bluekuja> :)
[22:08] <night> hello again
[22:08] <sandig> hey
[22:09] <sandig> so basically i'm trying to install transmission
[22:09] <bluekuja> night, tranny will be synced soon
[22:09] <bluekuja> ;)
[22:09] <bluekuja> heya sandig
[22:09] <sandig> hey
[22:10] <night> oh legend
[22:10] <night> like days or hurs
[22:10] <bluekuja> night, lol
[22:10] <night> hours
[22:10] <bluekuja> :D
[22:10] <sandig> trying to install transmission - apt-get says it doesn't exist
[22:10] <sandig> universe *is* enabled
[22:11] <bluekuja> sandig, can you please
[22:11] <bluekuja> pastebin
[22:11] <bluekuja> your sources.list
[22:11] <bluekuja> ?
[22:11] <night> bluekuja: why you laugh at my ignorance,
[22:12] <bluekuja> night, :)
[22:12] <night> hahaha
[22:13] <sandig> http://pastebin.com/m18d3f93f
[22:13] <bluekuja> sandig, you are still on feisty??
[22:13] <night> bluekuja: seriously thought can i expect that new vresion tommorow or what
[22:14] <bluekuja> night, depends from archive-admins
[22:14] <night> sweet,
[22:14] <sandig> bluekuja, yeah.. but should that matter?
[22:14] <bluekuja> night, UDS is running
[22:14] <bluekuja> sandig, actually
[22:14] <bluekuja> feisty doesnt have transmission
[22:14] <night> bluekuja: ? UDS ?
[22:14] <bluekuja> at all
[22:15] <bluekuja> sandig, jdong is backporting it to feisty as well
[22:15] <bluekuja> so you'll have to add backports
[22:15] <sandig> or update to gutsy?
[22:15] <bluekuja> to your sources.list or via synaptic
[22:15] <bluekuja> well, that's your choice
[22:15] <bluekuja> night, Ubuntu Developer Summit
[22:15] <sandig> alright
[22:15] <sandig> i'll do that then
[22:16] <night> ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
[22:16] <bluekuja> sandig, if you upgrade to gutsy
[22:16] <night> bluekuja: linux plus irc equals problem free motoring
[22:16] <bluekuja> you'll have 0.72
[22:16] <sandig> oh.. why is that?
[22:16] <bluekuja> sandig, jdong is backporting it to gutsy so you can get 0.91
[22:16] <bluekuja> or whatever it is now
[22:17] <bluekuja> night, well, asking for a new release and having it done some days alter
[22:17] <bluekuja> *later
[22:17] <bluekuja> is something nice
[22:17] <bluekuja> isnt it?
[22:17] <sandig> well... i'm probably gonna upgrade anyway - i didn't realise this system was still running feisty
[22:18] <night> yeah
[22:18] <bluekuja> sandig, great :)
[22:18] <bluekuja> sandig, let me know if you encounter any other problem
[22:18] <sandig> thanks very much
[22:18] <bluekuja> np :)
[22:18] <sandig> i'm just trying to get torrentflux working
[22:19] <bluekuja> ^^
[22:19] <sandig> transmission is the last thing it needs
[22:19] <bluekuja> yep
[22:19] <bluekuja> night, sandig: subscribe to the backport bug
[22:19] <bluekuja> so you can notice when it gets backported
[22:19] <bluekuja> jdong, backport bug ID is out already?
[22:20] <sandig> righto
[22:20] <sandig> link?
[22:22] <bluekuja> sandig, jdong was opening it
[22:22] <sandig> oh right
[22:22] <bluekuja> so we need him for the bug ID/LInk
[22:22] <sandig> sorry
[22:22] <night> how do i do that
[22:23] <bluekuja> night, via launchpad
[22:23] <bluekuja> login in your account
[22:23] <bluekuja> get the bug link
[22:23] <bluekuja> left panel --> subscribe
[22:24] <bluekuja> ooook, fine
[22:24] <bluekuja> going to read
[22:24] <bluekuja> and then off to bed
[22:24] <night> see you
[22:24] <bluekuja> cu tomorrow
[22:24] <bluekuja> and take care :)
[22:24] <sandig> evening bluekuja
[22:26] <jdong> bug 159636
[22:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 159636 in gutsy-backports "Backport Transmission 0.90" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159636
[22:26] <jdong> bluekuja: sandig ^^
[22:26] <bluekuja> jdong, great :)
[22:26]  * bluekuja off for real
[22:27] <sandig>  aha
[22:27] <sandig> cool


 @tsimonq2 [No problem, what's your native language?], Italian 😬
 @lbssousa [<reply to image>], Beautiful theme 😍
 @lbssousa [<reply to image>], I really like the dark one!
[02:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf7ca4330db64: Add closing tabs in firefox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf7ca4330db64
[06:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd33da89f90ea: Add sorting data to localc] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd33da89f90ea
 Can I use LXDE desktop on xubuntu??will it improve performance?
 @v4vnc [Can I use LXDE desktop on xubuntu??will it improve performance?], It mostly depends on what your machine's limit is and what task you'd like to improve performance of
[12:48] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: pythonqt (disco-proposed/universe) [3.2-10 => 3.2-10build1] (lubuntu)
 @brli7848 [It mostly depends on what your machine's limit is and what task you'd like to im …], I m having Pentium 4
[14:09] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: calamares (disco-proposed/universe) [3.2.2-0ubuntu1 => 3.2.2-0ubuntu2] (lubuntu)
 @queuebot> Unapproved: calamares (disco-proposed/universe) [3.2.2-0ubuntu1 = [<queuebot> Unapproved: calamares (disco-proposed/universe) [3.2.2-0ubuntu1 => 3. …], What it means
 https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/1057639842941673472?s=19
 @v4vnc [What it means], It's just a notice for doko doing rebuilds
 as evidenced by me getting 99 emails on cosmc-changes all at once with python rebuilds!
 Ha I was wondering what the "A" release was since we've had Bionic Beaver and Cosmic Cuttlefish so far
 hence why he is 20,000 point ahard of me on LP karma 😢😆
 @acheronuk [as evidenced by me getting 99 emails on cosmc-changes all at once with python re …], *disco-changes
 I haven't set up an inbox filter yet, RIP
 :P
 @tsimonq2 [*disco-changes], duh. force of habit
 @acheronuk [duh. force of habit], Np
 https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/1057652507655237633?s=19
 Noice
[17:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa5b66d44835b: Add how to search through pdfs] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa5b66d44835b
[17:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL908f162ea2ed: Add fullscreen/presentation mode to qpdfview] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL908f162ea2ed
[18:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T144:  Port over "additional drivers" tab from software-properties-gtk to -qt] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T144#2984
[18:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL65c4d29a292a: Add how to insert text and pictures] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL65c4d29a292a
[19:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL636949f6063b: Add how to insert a new slide in libreoffice impress] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL636949f6063b
[19:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T144:  Port over "additional drivers" tab from software-properties-gtk to -qt] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T144#2985
 What was the name of the "A" release?
 Like c for cosmic cuttlefish etc
[19:07] <teward> artful aardvark
[19:07] <teward> (EOL'd)
[19:08] <teward> @Wafficus: ^
[19:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T151: Clean up QT-BUGS-TODO] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T151
 Thanks @teward001
 yep.
 @tsimonq2 hey man did you look at my CMake code? I was able to install CMake successfully yesterday so I could probably remake the write welcome section with better buttons using Qt Creator
 *if you want
 @Wafficus [@tsimonq2 hey man did you look at my CMake code? I was able to install CMake suc …], Not yet
[20:41] <teward> Simon's been busy
[20:42] <teward> I suspect it'll take another week (or three) before he gets to it :P
[20:43] <tsimonq2> Taking until the weekend might not be out of the question for me.
[20:44] <tsimonq2> Missing three weeks of school means missing that much homework and curriculum... I learn quicker than they teach, but still, it's a pain. :P
 @tsimonq2 No worries. I might just redo it another time in that case
 ack
 @tsimonq2 I didn't know about your school missed time so no worries. Concentrate on that instead, I'm sure I can ask another teammate for help
 No problem, thanks
[21:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL31bb1e063a17: Add how to add remove virtual desktops] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL31bb1e063a17
[21:14] <lynorian> phew I realized another question on the lubuntu-users list and added the answer to the answer to the manual
[21:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALda8fe32a50e9: Add how to focus follows mouse] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALda8fe32a50e9
[21:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL0fd130a5369d: Add file associations useage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL0fd130a5369d
[23:15] <wxl> everyone go swoop in on tsujan and knock some sense in him https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/799
[23:18] <wxl> @tsimonq2 ^
 @wxl [<wxl> everyone go swoop in on tsujan and knock some sense in him https://github. …], Got him
[23:35] <wxl> i'm convinced he's worse than agaida
 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA
 At least agaida is funny
[23:38] <wxl> and i can't remember mentioning something to him where he said "oh that's dumb"


[09:20] <raj-darkmystery> Intel corporation Sandy Brudge Integrated Graphics Controller, no graphics in ubuntu 10.04, nomodeset is also not able to solve the issue :(
[09:22] <Myrtti> a) this is not a support channel, neither is #ubuntu-offtopic b) crossposting is not polite
[16:03] <nigelb> tsimpson: Hi!
[16:04] <tsimpson> nigelb: hello
[16:04] <nigelb> Do you by chance know why there isn't an ubottu or one of her clones in #ubuntu-bugs?
[16:05] <tsimpson> I think ubot2` should be in there
[16:05] <tsimpson> jpds: ^ can you fix please?
[16:07] <tsimpson> jpds: also, what happened to ubot4?
[16:08] <Mkaysi> tsimpson: I think that it was affected by issue which I told you about a long time ago
[16:08] <Mkaysi> misc last <censored>
[16:09] <tsimpson> yeah, but it should be back by now
[16:09] <Pici> I think pleia2 killed it (according to my logs).
[16:10] <pleia2> yeah, ubot4 pinged out and was taking up 100% of the cpu on the server it's on
[16:10] <tsimpson> it's been missing for nearly 4 days
[16:12] <Mkaysi> Just run "@defaultcapability remove misc.last" and then that issue shouldn't affect you.
[16:13] <tsimpson> no one can run anything without the bot being live :)
[16:15] <Mkaysi> But there are ubot2` (which doesn't seem to have NickCapture loaded)  and ubot5 and ubottu .
[16:15] <tsimpson> well ubot5 and ubottu don't have that problem
[16:16] <Mkaysi> And I am almost sure that they are vulnerable, the command is @misc last --regexp m/(.*\w){512}/
[16:16] <Mkaysi> if you want to try it
[16:16] <Mkaysi> s/if/in case/
[16:16] <tsimpson> they ignore everyone by default
[16:17] <Mkaysi> Defaultignore? Well, that is another way to fix it
[16:17] <Mkaysi> ubot2`: ping
[16:17] <ubot2`> pong
[16:17] <ubot2`> another contentless ping... sigh...
[16:17] <Mkaysi> ubot5: ping
[16:17] <Mkaysi> It seems that at least ubot2` has that problem
[16:37] <MonsterKiller> Hey, i have the Encyclopedia plugin for factoids, but when someone does like <x> is <Y>  it says "Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops."
[16:37] <MonsterKiller> but i dont want it to
[16:37] <MonsterKiller> i wanted it to be a sepercate factoid database that just allowes people to add to it
[16:38] <MonsterKiller> is there a way to config it to do that?
[16:49] <micahg> hi, bot missing in #ubuntu-bugs
[16:50] <IdleOne> MonsterKiller: look at supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.relaychannel
[16:50] <rww> micahg: which one? your factoid bot?
[16:50] <micahg> rww: yes, sorry
[16:51] <rww> jpds: ubot2's missing from #ubuntu-bugs ^^^
[17:16] <MonsterKiller> IdleOne, is there a way to make it so that anyone can add factoids. it doesnt have to be requested/approved?
[17:17] <IdleOne> MonsterKiller: there is but I don't know how. try asking in #ubuntu-bots
[17:17] <MonsterKiller> okay, thanks :P
[17:17] <MonsterKiller> :)*
[17:19] <rww> #ubuntu-bots-devel
[17:19] <IdleOne> or #supybots
[17:19] <IdleOne> or #supybot
[17:20] <Unit193> Not for encyclopedia I wouldn't think
[17:20] <MonsterKiller> i think i may have found it actually. supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.editchannel seems to be it but it only does specified channels
[17:20] <Mkaysi> #supybot can't help, because Encyclopedia is not created by them.
[17:21] <rww> MonsterKiller: I imagine a bit of coding could remove the check to see if the user's logged in and has privileges
[17:21] <MonsterKiller> probably yeah. just would be good to do it properly if possible :p
[17:21]  * jussi eyes the channel, how dare you make us give support! preposterous! :P :P
[17:21] <MonsterKiller> i think this may have done it anyway, "Channels where unauthorised edits are allowed."
[17:21] <rww> jussi: oh, I have a question for you too!
[17:21] <MonsterKiller> lol
[17:21]  * jussi runs!
[17:22] <rww> jussi: the most recent bantracker code on Launchpad is from May and is... not up to date feature wise. What do :(
[17:23] <rww> or should I be poking tsimpson about this
[17:23] <jussi> rww: erm, thats a tsimpson question, I havent touched BT for a long time (or looked at the code).
[17:23] <rww> k
[17:23] <jussi> and even back then, I just nudged variables into place ;)
[17:24] <rww> tsimpson: I will poke you instead, then!
[17:25] <tsimpson> what's in LP and what's in ubottu aren't really in sync, but not generally share the same functionality (as far as I remember)
[17:25] <tsimpson> but Bantracker is taken directly from LP, as is Bugtracker
[17:27] <tsimpson> rww: what features don't you see in the bzr code?
[17:27] <rww> tsimpson: the bantracker code in LP yields something that looks like http://imagebin.org/172271 , which appears to be missing some input boxes and any bans on the front page
[17:27] <rww> search and such work fine
[17:27] <tsimpson> ah, that's the web-ui which is totally out of sync with bzr
[17:28] <tsimpson> I did try to merge them a while ago, but without much success
[17:29] <rww> can you mail me the code or something so I can ponder it?
[17:30] <tsimpson> I'll try to get a sanitized version later, the one "we" use has some non-public info in it
[17:30] <tsimpson> ie, a way for staff to access it
[17:30] <rww> ah, I was wondering how that worked
[17:30] <rww> alrighty, thanks :)
[18:55]  * micahg guesses ubot2` is on vacation
[18:57] <Unit193> Well, it's "alive" but seems to have issues :/
[18:58] <micahg> "mental health day"
[19:12] <Pici> Well, it is programmers day today.
[19:45] <k1l> exit
[19:46] <k1l> well, wrong window :)


[00:05] <nisshh> ikt, not sure, google :)
[06:20] <catfish0275> Hi, Adelaide here
[08:10] <elky> airtonix, re: pioneer. yes on both counts.
[10:35] <airtonix> elky: so what is the quality of their linux installs like?
[10:35] <elky> The linux install is pretty much stock with whatever driver fiddliness is needed. but they don't disclose the driver fiddliness ime\
[10:35] <airtonix> :<
[10:36] <elky> you can extract the info out of them, but they don't like put info in the box
[10:36] <airtonix> so it's inside text files or inside some binary you have to decompile?
[10:37] <elky> so you get an ubuntu installed system, for example, then try swap it to fedora, and you then find out that for example, the wifi had extra drivers on it
[10:37] <elky> and you ask them and they go 'oh yeah, we installed the drivers for ubuntu. the chipset is blah. dunno about fedora though" etc
[10:38] <airtonix> would've been awesome if they just did the fucking right thing like they do for windows and provide driver packages for major distro, they do it for win98, xp, 2000, 7.
[10:38] <elky> tell that to the component manufacturers.
[10:38] <elky> usually some place in china
[10:38] <airtonix> noobs
[10:39] <airtonix> not a palce that cares about freedom
[10:39] <airtonix> "just be grateful that we make this stuff"
[10:39] <airtonix> which is true
[10:40] <airtonix> otherwise it would cost us a small fortune to setup a small business server


[09:36] <rmg51> Morning
[10:07] <JonathanD> Hi rmg51
[10:22] <rmg51> o/
[12:11] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys, hamsters and everything else
[12:23] <ChinnoDog> morning teddy-dbear
[12:23] <teddy-dbear> hi ChinnoDog
[17:01] <waltman> jedijf: I saw Mr. Turkey today.
[17:03] <waltman> I told him to come to fosscon. He asked why you didn't ping him yourself, because he's always on freenode.


[03:01] <jpsupport> I'm having a ton of trouble adding Japanese typing support to 17.04. I've tried Region & Languages (installing the language, testing all input sources after a re-log), installing language-pack-gnome-ja and -ja-base.
[03:08] <jpsupport> just installed language-selector-gnome
[10:38] <azdaz> Hi, I was wondering how to upgrade from ubuntu gnome 17.04 to ubuntu 17.10
[10:38] <azdaz> will it be automatic ?
[11:48] <azdaz> Hi, I was wondering how to upgrade from ubuntu gnome 17.04 to ubuntu 17.10
[11:52] <mgedmin> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-upgrading-ubuntu-desktop#0


[18:58] <pleia2> yay, s-fox added an interview, we shall see if the category works \o/
[19:46] <nhandler> pleia2: It didn't :(
[20:22] <nhandler> akgraner: Can you run: /msg chanserv flags #ubuntu-news<EMAIL_ADDRESS>+votiA