[00:00] <Lunario> what do you suggest to do? :)
[00:01] <eeee> well i'd delete the efi partition of windows
[00:01] <Lunario> The manual says: "If your disk already contains an EFI partition (eg if your computer had Windows8 preinstalled), it can be used for Ubuntu too. Do not format it. It is strongly recommended to have only 1 EFI partition per disk. "
[00:01] <Lunario> However, do I format it when I set its partition type from Fat-32 to "Efi boot"?
[00:01] <eeee> repartition, format, copy back the win efi files (or use the recovery usb to get them back)
[00:02] <eeee> yeah i don't think you can change partition types and not format...
[00:03] <eeee> also i think efi boot and fat32 are basically the same thing but with a different name
[00:03] <eeee> if they aren't though, i think you'd have to format
[00:03] <wlrr> I'm trying to completely uninstall virtualbox on ubuntu 14.04, but cannot seem to track the Virtualbox.run file to uninstall. and since this was installed from the .deb package off of Oracle Virtualbox site, apt-get remove virtualbox-ose --purge --auto-remove is not working.
[00:04] <eeee> if you have the efi backed up 100%, then why don't you try the dosfsck, maybe it can fix the corrupt filesystem?
[00:04] <Lunario> I would do that if I knew for sure that my windows recovery system works flawlessly. It has some F3-hotkey-at-startup-recovery tool integrated instead of a recovery disc, and I am not sure how reliable that is. Also, I guess if I used that recovery tool, it would just reformat the boot partition back to Windows Boot Manager and delete Ubuntu's EFI entries again
[00:05] <wlrr> In other words, I ran a find command in root for any files with "Virtual" and nothing.
[00:06] <Oriiiiiiin> That moment when you realise you're an incredible idiot and accidentally installed 32 bit instead of 64 bit
[00:06] <Lunario> well, I have the backup of the sda2 on my usb key, however not in the form of a .img file but as an unpacked .img file. I am not sure if I can still use it to restore the efi in case dosfsck doesn't work out?
[00:07] <Lunario> I have no idea why the .img file of the sda2 backup unpacked itself on my usb key
[00:07] <eeee> i have no idea,
[00:08] <eeee> i still think you should just boot into windows and make that recovery usb, and then copy its contents to another pc or something
[00:08] <Lunario> but as I am a noob when it comes to partitioning, file system, images stuff etc, I guess I shouldn't wonder. lol
[00:09] <Lunario> I wanted to, but to make a recovery usb/disc of windows, I need the product key. My Windows 8.1 is not illegal, but I simply don't know where to find it. I checked all the documents I received from MSI, all Emails from the retailer, the Utility CD from MSI etc... I cannot find it anywhere.
[00:09] <nosound> I have no sound. My Z97 mobo's sound does not work, it just clicks, all fixes I've found do nothing.... so I tried a different sound card, flat out did not recognize it, so i'm now trying a THIRD sound card, this one gives me sound, but ONLY on the left speaker...
[00:09] <eeee> Lunario: the key is in the bios :)
[00:10] <Lunario> I was looking at the Bios too but couldn't find it (though, I didn't look too closely there I guess, as I did not expect it there)... maybe I should check again
[00:10] <eeee> they don't give it out anymore, the installation gets it automatically
[00:10] <eeee> well you can get it via linux
[00:10] <eeee> one command, or by downloading tools for win8,
[00:11] <Lunario> will check the bios again, one sec
[00:11] <eeee> let me get the command for ubuntu, i've tried that and it works
[00:11] <Lunario> ok
[00:11] <Lunario> thx
[00:11] <eeee> i dont think you'll find it in the bios
[00:11] <eeee> hold on..
[00:11] <Lunario> np, need to start the Ubuntu live cd in any event
[00:12] <nubcake> good morning, i set my eth0 to "eth0 inet static" with ip address, subnet and gateway, can connect to my lan, but not to the internet... if i do ~:sudo ifconfig it tells me the correct settings, but if i go to the Network Settings Panel and click on "options" it tells me: Did not find a connection with UUID'(NULL)'   (Ubuntu 14.04 gnome)
[00:13] <wlrr> sudo apt-get purge virtualbox uninstalls it. But I thought there was a cleaner way of doing it, that wouldn't leave any remnants behind.
[00:13] <nubcake> any ideas/suggestions ?
[00:13] <eeee> Lunario: sudo cat /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/MSDM
[00:13] <eeee> the key is after the jibberish it's like: ##### - ##### - .......
[00:14] <ghostnik11> what command is there to find the bluetooth module
[00:14] <rap424> lickalott: Do you have acroread.sh in /etc/bash_completion.d   ?
[00:14] <Lunario> thanks eeee, will try, one sec
[00:14] <eeee> Lunario: btw, i just thought are you trying to make a recovery cd, as in the recovery of the laptop ?
[00:15] <eeee> cuz it's weird that it's asking for the key
[00:16] <eeee> i mean the recovery usb that doesn't restore the whole pc, it just gives you some stuff and a command prompt, with diskpart (to partition) and dism (it can extract images... it's very handy) and other stuff to build the efi partition and stuff
[00:16] <eeee> it's only like 100-200mb or so
[00:17] <eeee> to get to the recovery usb, you go to search and type recovery usb or something like that
[00:19] <Lunario> I did not yet try it personally, just read on a Microsoft manuals page that I need the product key for it
[00:21] <Lunario> The key has 4 times 5 letters, right?
[00:21] <Lunario> If so, I found it in the MSDM file :)
[00:21] <eeee> no, it's 5 times 5 letters
[00:22] <Lunario> ah yeah, true
[00:22] <Lunario> alright, gonna boot into windows and try to create the recovery usb
[00:26] <Lunario> you were right, I found the recovery tool in Windows :) gonna create the recovery usb now
[00:26] <Lunario> however I do not have a 32 gb sized usb key, which is required according to the recovery menu...
[00:27] <eeee> no no no
[00:27] <eeee> in the recovery tool, don't select the checkbox that says copy the contents of the recovery drive
[00:27] <eeee> it's only 256mb i just checked online
[00:28] <eeee> http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/5132-recovery-drive-create-usb-flash-drive-windows-8-a.html
[00:29] <Lunario> ah right
[00:29] <Lunario> now it works
[00:30] <Lunario> (though it's 512 mb minimum, not 256, according to the tool... but that doesn't matter)
[00:30] <eeee> oh, maybe that's cuz its win8.1 not win8
[00:31] <Lunario> yeah
[00:31] <Lunario> Testing the recovery usb after creating it won't automatically recover anything, right?
[00:31] <Lunario> cause I would like to make sure it works, though I would not like to recover anything yet (and hopefully not need to. lol)
[00:32] <eeee> yeah, you can try the command prompt
[00:33] <Lunario> ok, will do that now, then reboot into Ubuntu live cd and do the dosfsck :))
[00:34] <eeee> :)
[00:34] <Lunario> btw I hope I'm not keeping you awake in case it's also night where you are :D
[00:36] <eeee> no, i'm up anyways at night :)
[00:36] <Lunario> k
[00:44] <Lunario> sudo dosfsck -r /dev/sda -> /EFI/ubuntu , Start does point to root directory. Deleting dir. Perform changes Y/n ?
[00:45] <eeee> y
[00:45] <Lunario> "/dev/sda2: 406 files, 12015/75776 clusters"
[00:45] <Lunario> That's it, program finished
[00:45] <john_rambo> I remember Hardy included a Network tool which had feauture of audio nitification on ping reply ...Is it still available ? What is it called ?
[00:45] <eeee> run it again
[00:46] <Lunario> "Orphaned long file name part "ubuntu" -> 1. Delete   2. Leave it ?
[00:46] <eeee> 1
[00:47] <Lunario> done. Ran it again, no more questions came up
[00:47] <Lunario> Now reboot and check if grub is there?
[00:49] <ghostnik11> does anyone know the command for identifying your bluetooth adapter
[00:50] <eeee>  one sec
[00:50] <Lunario> k
[00:50] <eeee> Lunario: now you reinstall grub
[00:50] <eeee> i dunno
[00:50] <cryptolulz> so i have a question
[00:50] <eeee> i guess... try to reboot if you want
[00:50] <Lunario> ok, will try reinstalling grub first..
[00:51] <eeee> ok
[00:51] <eeee> ill brb
[00:51] <Lunario> k
[00:52] <cryptolulz> i have ubuntu (not sure which version) installed/running on an Acer C720 chromebook and it works fine, except the trackpad wont work and you need a mouse..
[00:52] <cryptolulz> ive heard theres an update or bug fix for it but i havent been able to find it
[00:55] <Lunario> Installing grub-efi-amd64 worked, but still grub doesnt show up when booting... will try installing grub (or grub2?)
[00:55] <eeee> you have to chroot to install grub
[00:56] <eeee> did you chroot like before ?
[00:56] <Lunario> oh darn, I forgot that..
[00:57] <Lunario> What was the exact command for chroot again, after apt-get install grub-efi-amd64?
[00:57] <eeee> first you have to mount the filesystem
[00:58] <eeee> mount the /boot, mount the other /dev /prov stuff, then chroot
[00:58] <eeee> then install apt-get install grub-efi-amd64
[00:58] <eeee> sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt  (iirc)
[00:58] <eeee> sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi
[00:59] <eeee> for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[01:00] <eeee> sudo chroot /mnt
[01:00] <Lunario> ok, one sec
[01:03] <Lunario> ok, did all the mounting and chroot /mnt. Now apt-get install grub-efi-amd64?
[01:04] <eeee> sudo apt-get install --reinstal grub-efi-amd64
[01:04] <eeee> *--reinstall
[01:05] <Lunario> Internal error: No file name for grub-efi-amd64:amd64
[01:10] <rubytor> Lunario: try boot repair....
[01:10] <Lunario> I already tried installing it but it didn't find the amd64 packages
[01:10] <gumansingh> hello guys I don't know if it is right place or not to ask it. I have got a Acer laptop acer e1-571-6_br642, its RAM is 2 GB. I want to increase RAM of this laptop. how can I know supportable memory for this laptop? I am thinking to get 4 GB external in that case it would be (2GB+4GB) 6GB RAM. would it be bad systeam configuration
[01:10] <mkdmz> On a live disk, does anyone know how I can stop the language picker when it boots?  I just want it to boot live.  I'm chroot it the squachfs ing it.
[01:11] <mkdmz> Does it have anything to do with grub?
[01:12] <mkdmz> If so, how can I alter grub on the live disk?
[01:12] <eeee> Lunario: try sudo apt-get install grub-efi
[01:12] <ObrienDave> mkdmz, it has to do with how the live disk was built, no, you probably can't change it with out making your own live disk
[01:13] <Lunario> done
[01:13] <Lunario> wow
[01:13] <Lunario> seemed to have worked
[01:13] <Lunario> Output:
[01:13] <mkdmz> ObrienDave: I'm making my own by chrooting then squashsing , I can do that, I just don't know where to find the file to stop the language picker.
[01:13] <eeee> Lunario: update-grub
[01:13] <ObrienDave> mkdmz, i don't know either
[01:13] <Lunario> Found ... (various linux/initrd images): Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration. done
[01:13] <eeee> wait,
[01:14] <eeee> Lunario: type grub-install /dev/sda
[01:14] <Lunario> ok
[01:14] <Lunario> no update-grub?
[01:14] <eeee> then update-grub
[01:14] <Lunario> k
[01:14] <Lunario> "Installation finished. No error reported"
[01:15] <eeee> ok now update-grub
[01:15] <Lunario> done
[01:15] <Lunario> Same output like apt-get install grub-efi
[01:15] <eeee> ok let's see
[01:15] <eeee> ls /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[01:16] <Foxhoundz> this is weird
[01:16] <Lunario> grub.cfg, grubx64.efi, MokManager.efi, shimx64.efi
[01:16] <Foxhoundz> I uninstalled ngnix which was running alnogside apache
[01:16] <realty> no no you are supposed to type rm -r /.
[01:16] <realty> :P
[01:16] <Lunario> :) seems to have worked
[01:16] <eeee> Lunario: cool
[01:16] <Foxhoundz> but when I navigate to my web server it shows the server header as being nginx
[01:16] <Lunario> now reboot?
[01:16] <Foxhoundz> what gives?
[01:16] <eeee> Lunario: wait
[01:17] <eeee> did you turn off fast boot in windows before installing ubuntu ?
[01:17] <eeee> one guy was saying that the bug might be caused by that
[01:17] <Lunario> I wanted to but I could not find any entry related to Fast Boot
[01:18] <Lunario> Only Secure Boot
[01:18] <eeee> that's something you have to fix
[01:18] <Lunario> I guess
[01:19] <eeee> if you boot into ubuntu after shutting down windows, your filesystem will be unstable
[01:19] <Lunario> I read that I can workaround fastboot by stopping Windows via Rightclick at Startmenu -> Shutdown (instead of normal shutdown button)
[01:19] <eeee> cause fastboot is like hibernate
[01:20] <eeee> so you'd have to restart windows instead of shutting down
[01:21] <eeee> anyways if you want to get grub without pressing any key during start up
[01:21] <eeee> you have to use those commands i gave you in the beginning
[01:21] <eeee> to replace the files
[01:21] <Lunario> So whenever I want to start Ubuntu after my PC has been completely shut down, I should first start Windows, then click on restart Windows and then start ubuntu?
[01:22] <eeee> yeah
[01:22] <eeee> that's correct
[01:23] <symptom_> hello there
[01:23] <ObrienDave> that sounds like a PITA
[01:23] <Lunario> Well, according to theteachjournal.com one can disable Fast boot in the Energy options. When I have done that, it should work as usually I guess (without needing to restart Windows everytime I want to start ubuntu)
[01:23] <eeee> ObrienDave: very true, he should disable fast boot
[01:24] <symptom_> i got an elantech touchpad and want to use it with gestures and some fine-tuning. what possibilities do i got if i want to compete with osx's touchpad functions?
[01:24] <Lunario> So should I now reboot, check if GRUB comes up and then start Windows to disable fast boot?
[01:24] <Guest19125> joint #ubuntu-fr
[01:25] <eeee> well you could replace the files
[01:25] <eeee> if you had to press a key to get grub, then you won't anymore
[01:25] <Guest19125> ÷
[01:26] <Lunario> What were the commands for replacing them again? They are not in the IRC log anymore, unfortunately
[01:26] <Lunario> BTW why would I need to press a key to get grub?
[01:26] <Lunario> (and which key?)
[01:26] <eeee> did you have to press a key to get grub before ?
[01:27] <ObrienDave> usually holding shift during boot gets you the grub menu
[01:27] <eeee> some bios are hardcoded to only boot windows efi
[01:27] <Lunario> no, I merely had to put "ubuntu" before the "Windows Boot Manager" in the Boot Options UEFI
[01:27] <Lunario> ok
[01:27] <eeee> so you have to manually select ubuntu every time it starts to get grub
[01:28] <eeee> oh ok, my laptop is different i can't switch them
[01:28] <Lunario> I could only try that two times because, after those two times, Windows had overwritten/deleted the ubuntu boot option. lol
[01:28] <Lunario> So I don't know if it would always be like that
[01:28] <eeee> well, you could switch the files, that way windows will never know
[01:28] <Lunario> I guess I'll reboot and see what happens now, and if GRUB starts I'll boot into Windows to disable Fast Boot. Is that a good idea?
[01:29] <Guest19125> bonsoire qui peu aider a joint ubuntu fr
[01:29] <Lunario> Guest19125, the /j #ubuntu-fr
[01:29] <eeee> Guest19125: /join #ubuntu-fr
[01:29] <ObrienDave> !fr| Guest19125
[01:29] <Guest19125> ok merci
[01:30] <delfick> Hi, when I try to install libssl-dev it fails https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d216fb28ae69ae93d9e5
[01:30] <microm> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/cups not found
[01:30] <delfick> it looks like it tries to find /pool/main/o/openssl/libssl-doc_1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.3_all.deb but the mirror only has /pool/main/o/openssl/libssl-doc_1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.4_all.deb (2.4 instead of 2.3)
[01:31] <Lunario> Great, Grub started and I could choose btw ubuntu and Windows :) Uefi Boot config looks just like it did after installing Ubuntu too
[01:31] <Lunario> Now I only need to make sure Windows doesn't delete the ubuntu boot option anymore
[01:32] <eeee> yeah
[01:32] <eeee> sometimes fast boot is in the settings of the laptop manufacturer
[01:32] <Allons-y> hi
[01:32] <Allons-y> couple of questions: What's linux-firmware-nonfree and why I should install it?
[01:34] <Lunario> ok, deactivated Fast Boot. :)
[01:34] <eeee> ok cool
[01:34] <eeee> one more thing
[01:34] <ObrienDave> Allons-y, non-free means it is not licensed the same as free software
[01:34] <Allons-y> aham
[01:35] <eeee> i noticed if you shut down the pc from the button in win8 it's the same as shutting down with fast boot on, even though it's off in my pc
[01:35] <eeee> so just a heads up
[01:35] <zykotick9> Allons-y: fyi, that has many of the firmware required to make non-free hardware (wifi cards in particular) work...
[01:35] <Allons-y> oh
[01:35] <Allons-y> ok
[01:36] <Lunario> What about Rightclick on Start Menu -> Shutdown?
[01:36] <eeee> i tried to mount the win partition and it said it was unstable and in hibernate state or something
[01:36] <eeee> so i figured it was cause i used the button earlier
[01:36] <Allons-y> the second question is: I don't like Unity. My pc is very old and doesn't handle it very well. Can I switch to the good old gnome?
[01:36] <eeee> i dont know about that, i dont have a start menu in win8
[01:37] <eeee> :)
[01:37] <Beldar> Allons-y, old gnome no.
[01:37] <Lunario> How do you shut down Win 8 to evade that pseudo-hibernate state?
[01:37] <zykotick9> !notunity | Allons-y
[01:38] <ObrienDave> Allons-y, may i suggest XFCE for your DE?
[01:38] <eeee> Lunario: just shutdown with the button i guess
[01:38] <eeee> i mean
[01:38] <Allons-y> What's XFCE, ObrienDave?
[01:38] <eeee> normally
[01:38] <ObrienDave> XFCE is the DE in Xubuntu
[01:39] <eeee> not from the laptop's power button, honestly i haven't used windows 8 except for a couple times since installing ubuntu
[01:39] <ObrienDave> Allons-y, Unity is why I switched to Xubuntu :))
[01:39] <hogh0h0h0> whats up fuckheads
[01:39] <hogh0h0h0> à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à
[01:39] <hogh0h0h0> ObrienDave, what were you saying bitch?
[01:39] <Lunario> Alright, just shut it down, started the PC again and GRUB showed up again :)
[01:39] <Lunario> yay
[01:39] <eeee> if i boot into it to use something i end up restarting except for that one time i used the button
[01:39] <hogh0h0h0> à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à
[01:39] <Lunario> seems like the problem is finally solved =)
[01:39] <hogh0h0h0> à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à
[01:39] <Allons-y> Hum... I've just installed Ubuntu 14.04 today xD
[01:39] <hogh0h0h0> à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à
[01:40] <ObrienDave> i love a good ignore command
[01:40] <hogh0h0h0>              ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็
[01:40] <eeee> cool
[01:40] <hogh0h0h0> ]ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็
[01:40] <zykotick9> Allons-y: you can just install the xfce4 metapackage on your ubuntu and then have the choice at login which to use
[01:40] <Allons-y> oh
[01:41] <Lunario> Thanks a lot for your help, eeee! =) Without your help I probably would never have figured out how to do all this.
[01:41] <eeee> you're welcome :)
[01:41] <zykotick9> Allons-y: fyi, you can alternativly install the xubuntu metapackage, but then you'll get multiple programs for the same thing (which may or may not be desirable)
[01:41] <Lunario> Now I can finally go to sleep without any more ubuntu-worries
[01:41] <Lunario> Good night :)
[01:42] <gfofihty> b̡̢̡͍͚̲̲͔̼͓̟̮͔̞̫̝̦̠̝̹͓̱̣̣͚͜b̡̢̡͍͚̲̲͔̼͓̟̮͔̞̫̝̦̠̝̹͓̱̣̣͚͜b̡̢̡͍͚̲̲͔̼͓̟̮͔̞̫̝̦̠̝̹͓̱̣̣͚͜b̡̢̡͍͚̲̲͔̼͓̟̮͔̞̫̝̦̠̝̹͓̱̣̣͚͜b̡̢̡͍͚̲̲͔̼͓̟̮͔̞̫̝̦̠̝̹͓̱̣̣͚͜b̡̢̡͍͚̲̲͔̼͓̟̮͔̞̫̝̦̠̝̹͓̱̣̣͚͜b̡̢̡͍͚̲̲͔̼͓̟̮͔̞̫̝̦̠̝̹͓̱̣̣͚͜b̡̢̡͍͚̲̲͔̼͓̟̮͔̞̫̝̦̠̝̹͓̱̣̣͚͜b̡̢͍͚̲̲
[01:42] <eeee> hehe
[01:42] <eeee> thanks, you too :)
[01:42] <gfofihty> ḅ̧̙̪̻͍͖̗̩͕̮͇̘̭͍̝͕̮̦͖̙̪̭͙̼͜ḅ̧̙̪̻͍͖̗̩͕̮͇̘̭͍̝͕̮̦͖̙̪̭͙̼͜ḅ̧̙̪̻͍͖̗̩͕̮͇̘̭͍̝͕̮̦͖̙̪̭͙̼͜ḅ̧̙̪̻͍͖̗̩͕̮͇̘̭͍̝͕̮̦͖̙̪̭͙̼͜ḅ̧̙̪̻͍͖̗̩͕̮͇̘̭͍̝͕̮̦͖̙̪̭͙̼͜ḅ̧̙̪̻͍͖̗̩͕̮͇̘̭͍̝͕̮̦͖̙̪̭͙̼͜ḅ̧̙̪̻͍͖̗̩͕̮͇̘̭͍̝͕̮̦͖̙̪̭͙̼͜ḅ̧̙̪̻͍͖̗̩͕̮͇̘̭͍̝͕̮̦͖̙̪̭͙̼͜ḅ̙̪̻͍͜
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[01:42] <gfofihty> ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็
[01:43] <gfofihty> ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็
[01:43] <gfofihty>                              à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à
[01:44] <Fall> lol
[01:44] <eeee> sad.. that's got to be the worst flood attempt ever
[01:45] <ObrienDave> amazing how well the ignore comand works LOL
[01:45] <Fall> lel
[01:47] <dopie> how do i do color in the terminal?
[01:48] <eeee> printf "\x1B[31m"
[01:48] <eeee> that's red
[01:48] <anex> like this?
[01:48] <anex> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/x_resources#Terminal_colors
[01:50] <eeee> you have to switch between the colors, like make it red, <your text> then , reset the color
[01:51] <eeee> like this will echo e in red only printf "\x1B[31m" && echo e && printf "\033[0m"
[01:55] <repozitor> after i have put my ssh in tunneling mode this error appeared to me
[01:55] <repozitor> "channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused"
[01:55] <repozitor> how to fix it?
[01:56] <repozitor> ssh -L 8150:localhost:8150 -t<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:02] <anex> can i get some suggestions or comments on this?
[02:02] <anex> http://storage7.static.itmages.com/i/14/0722/h_1405994206_7614765_44c98f181d.png
[02:02] <anex> http://storage9.static.itmages.com/i/14/0722/h_1405994284_9663021_feaca7e66e.png
[02:02] <anex> http://storage5.static.itmages.com/i/14/0722/h_1405994392_9642174_f49e713924.png
[02:02] <anex> http://storage6.static.itmages.com/i/14/0722/h_1405994583_5829020_b1dad74ca9.png
[02:04] <somsip> !14.10 | anex
[02:04] <anex> ;]
[02:04] <anex> on gnome 3.12
[02:05] <anex> im not asking for support just wonted a opinion on the theming
[02:05] <anex> lol
[02:06] <LanDi> anex: http://lolnux.com/36.html
[02:06] <LanDi> hehehe
[02:07] <anex> heh
[02:09] <dcope> i have two of the same mp3s. both are 160kbps. one is about 4mb less than the other.
[02:09] <dcope> is there something that could be causing this? i thought changing the bitrate was the only way to compress an mp3
[02:09] <SirLagz> dcope: are they from the same source ?
[02:09] <dcope> SirLagz: no, they are from different places
[02:10] <dcope> i'm trying to figure out how one got the file size down so much
[02:10] <dcope> and kept the bitrate
[02:10] <SirLagz> do they sound the same ?
[02:10] <ectospasm> Is there a way to browse your Ubuntu One files online, or do you have to use u1_downloader?
[02:10] <dcope> SirLagz: yeah, the sound quality seems the same
[02:10] <dcope> and again... same bitrate. i'm pretty confused o_O
[02:10] <SirLagz> dcope: maybe poke it with avprobe or ffmpeg and see if they can point out differences ?
[02:13] <meganerd> is anyone here familiar with using ufw to filter forwarded IPv6 traffic?
[02:14] <WHAT_UP1> so i'm running rsync with 5000 remote files as destinations, but it's just giving an empty output and doing nothing. 700 files, on the other hand, does what you'd expect. what gives?
[02:14] <WHAT_UP1> errr, 5000 remote files as sources
[02:16] <hakesak> ...
[02:16] <WHAT_UP1> it's a big command
[02:22] <dcope> i can't get the files smaller with lame or ffmpeg
[02:22] <dcope> using the 160kbps bitrate
[02:23] <dcope> this is a mystery
[02:23] <dcope> o_O
[02:24] <WHAT_UP1> the plot thickens
[02:24] <meganerd> dcope: I missed the first part, what does your lame command look like?
[02:25] <dcope> lame --mp3input -b 160 in.mp3 out.mp3
[02:25] <dcope> in.mp3 is 160kbps so the out is the same file size
[02:25] <dcope> but the mp3 im comparing this to is 160kbps yet 4mb smaller o_O
[02:26] <mitch-_> does anyone know of a way to monitor for when a bluetooth device connects and then run a shell script when that event happens?
[02:30] <meganerd> dcope: so there is another mp3 file of the same song that is smaller?
[02:30] <dcope> yes
[02:31] <meganerd> dcope: is the smaller file using a variable bitrate?
[02:31] <dcope> meganerd: nope, constant
[02:32] <meganerd> dcope: what encoder was used on the other file?
[02:32] <meganerd> dcope: also, what was the source file in all these cases?
[02:33] <dcope> it seems like there's a lot of "junk" in the big file
[02:33] <dcope> wonder if it's in the meta data
[02:36] <meganerd> exiftool -AudioBitrate file.mp3
[02:36] <meganerd> dcope: what do you mean by "junk"
[02:37] <dcope> meganerd: so i'm using media info and saw this
[02:37] <dcope> large file:
[02:37] <dcope> Stream size                              : 5.41 MiB (55%)
[02:37] <dcope> small file:
[02:37] <dcope> Stream size                              : 5.41 MiB (94%)
[02:37] <dcope> i've tried removing the album art too but it's not making a difference
[02:39] <dcope> meganerd: figured it out. it was the cover
[02:39] <SirLagz> 4Megs of Cover ? yuck
[02:40] <meganerd> dcope: that must be some seriously large image
[02:40] <meganerd> dcope: I make my own mp3s so I don't usually have this issue.
[02:41] <meganerd> dcope: I buy flacs from hdtracks :)
[02:41] <purrr> hi, I am having an issue with brightness. I don't know what it is. it just seems like the display has a orangy dark filter over it
[02:41] <ectospasm> Y'all were no help.
[02:42] <purrr> it is not a display setting, it has to be the operating system (ubuntu 14.04)
[02:43] <sydney> Is there a demo video f unity 8 with mir yet?
[02:43] <sydney> of*
[02:44] <purrr> it use to look fine. then it stopped looking so nice. I tryed to use an old back up image with clonezilla but it was dark too. then I fully upgraded it to 14.04 (from 12.04) and still dark, so I did a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04 and it is still dark. and ideas on what coould be going on. I have it dual booted with windoes 7 and it looks bright as everr, so it is not a tv setting
[02:52] <purrr> never mind. I think the TV display settings change depending on the operating system that it detects. I up the contrast and brightness and now all is well. Thank you, bye!
[02:58] <zCoder> Hi. Does anyone know of decent incremental backup with a web based interface?
[03:02] <Geo> Any suggestions on how programs that can stress test a network? I'm not worried about stateful traffic, I'm just looking for a simple way to shoot traffic from a few eth: interfaces to a list of destination IPs
[03:02] <Geo> s/how/ /
[03:03] <Geo> being able to send at a few different ports would be nice though
[03:05] <bornagain> can't seem to get any answers in the python channel. anyone want to answer a newbie python q?
[03:06] <meowster> ??? what is your question
[03:07] <bornagain>  ./geany_run_script.sh: 5: ./geany_run_script.sh: ./tic: not found
[03:07] <bornagain> this is what i get when i try to execute a simple program in geany
[03:07] <meowster> lol
[03:07] <meowster> well seems pretty simple with the error essage
[03:08] <meowster> you ls the directory to verify file is in there
[03:08] <toolazyforaname> oh boy this is going to be good
[03:09] <meowster> lol dont say ne thing
[03:09]  * toolazyforaname waits with baited breath
[03:12] <bornagain> ok non-python question.. why isn't ubuntu more popular with the vast majority? i only wish i'de found it sooner
[03:12] <toolazyforaname> is it
[03:12] <toolazyforaname> it is*
[03:12] <toolazyforaname> it's probably up there with fedora for most popular distro
[03:13] <meowster> i personally belive ubuntu is a great distro for those getting started with linux
[03:13] <bornagain> I mean percentage wise, i'de guess 60 windows 30 mac 10 linux... is that even close?
[03:13] <meowster> gives you the gui with access to terminal
[03:13] <toolazyforaname> i have mixed feelings on that. I personally wish I started on debian
[03:14] <somsip> bornagain: no way near (this is offtopic so please continue in #ubuntu-offtopic) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
[03:14] <toolazyforaname> bornagain: linux (i believe) at its core fails to be accessible to the mainstream
[03:16] <visceral> toolazyforaname: when upstreams do their own (quality) packaging, it might stand a chance
[03:16] <toolazyforaname> disagree
[03:16] <visceral> there is a divide between "how upstream intended" and "what you get in a distro"
[03:16] <visceral> in terms of release cycles, at least
[03:16] <nopii> I don't think it's a technological issue. My mint box with KDE is way more usable than windows 8.
[03:17] <nopii> it's just a marketing/network effects problem
[03:17] <toolazyforaname> for one main reason. Linux has a philospphy of freedom of choice and customization. I think the lack of ability to brand itself is its own downfall
[03:17] <visceral> there are also quality issues with the linux desktop (server side is pretty solid)
[03:17] <sysop2> has anyone  run WD Quick View  in wine with a firewire drive?
[03:17] <nopii> I disagree. It was easier to scan a document on Linux than it was on windows 8.
[03:18] <toolazyforaname> nopii: cherry picking
[03:18] <sysop2> its easier and 100% cheaper to install an office package too
[03:18] <nopii> So what if I had to fudge around with printer drivers and CUPS... :P
[03:18] <toolazyforaname> lol
[03:19] <nopii> Now that I did, it prints better too.
[03:19] <toolazyforaname> plug and play is a sometimes rule on linux
[03:19] <nopii> Printers used to just be paperweights to a Linux box.
[03:19] <toolazyforaname> a big problem for 99% of computer users
[03:19] <danielsantos_> oi
[03:19] <sysop2> not if you have an hp or borther
[03:19] <nopii> upnp worked for my printer/router/linux box setup
[03:19] <nopii> with epson xp310
[03:20] <sysop2> brother I mean, brother had offical linux drivers before hp
[03:20] <nopii> stuff routinely doesn't work on my wife's windows 8 computer
[03:20] <nopii> so it ends up getting done on this machine instead.
[03:20] <danielsantos_> poo
[03:21] <toolazyforaname> probably because you have mastery over your os. the whole point of windows and osx is taht the os shouldnt be a thought
[03:21] <toolazyforaname> at least my view of their phi~losophy
[03:24] <sysop2> lexmark hates linux, epson  is brand I left in the dot matrix days.
[03:24] <sysop2> you want something that works scanner or printer wise in linux get brother or hp.
[03:27] <toolazyforaname> i draw the line at buy hardware for the software
[03:27] <toolazyforaname> buying*
[03:27] <sysop2> I should be more precise, lexmark hates the people that by their low end printers and refuse to give them linux support just incase you might use it as a network printer, if you want a network printer they want you to buy their expensive brands
[03:28] <sysop2> why not? I choose nvidia over ati based on the drivers
[03:29] <toolazyforaname> I'm not chastizing others for doing so, I just see software as being flexible and moldable hardware not as much
[03:29] <sysop2> why should only look at half of the equation? what good is awesome hardware thats a pain or you cant use?
[03:29] <sysop2> yes software is flexible devlopers are not always so.
[03:30] <sysop2> unless you are willing to write your driver I do not see your point?
[03:31] <toolazyforaname> sysop2: I'd rather chose the OS that will nicely handle my hardware (within reason) than buy hardware that conforms to my OS
[03:32] <sysop2> I still do not see your point. I choose the OS that suits me and I vote with my dollars and only by hardware that is supported by my os.
[03:32] <sysop2> by=buy
[03:33] <toolazyforaname> well i guess thats where we differ. I will tolerate an OS i don't like as much which is better with my drivers
[03:34] <toolazyforaname> I'll deal with it on linux (and struggle bitterly to get drivers to work) but I'm happy to have a windows part to fall back on
[03:34] <sysop2> well if its some specialized bit of hardware that you have to have I would understand. but nowsdays there multiple versions of evertyhing and usualy you can find a version that is support by linux or someone will buy one and reverse engineer a driver eventually although sometimes that takes years
[03:35] <toolazyforaname> the same could be said about OSes
[03:35] <sysop2> not really
[03:35] <toolazyforaname> You  can chose to run windows (if you have the money --i do).
[03:36] <toolazyforaname> It boils down to a weight of wants/values
[03:36] <sysop2> oh I run run windows for specialized things, but in a virutal or on a secondary box.
[03:36] <sysop2> playon.tv is something that doesnt run well in a virtual and really its just better run on real hardware.
[03:38] <toolazyforaname> put it this way, if i have the choice to buy equally capable hw solutions, one supported by nix, and one not I'll 100% go for nix. But if the one that isn't supported is better and fits within my needs andd budget, i'm getting that one
[03:38] <bet0x> People say I have the legs of a dancer. But until they find the rest of the body, the cops have nothing on me, man!
[03:40] <sysop2> Iits worth it to me to pay a litle more sometimes to get an linux supported bit of hardware,  I am not an OS purist but linux my os of chocie and I do everything to support I can.  I have run linux as my desktop at home and work for almost a decade.
[03:41] <toolazyforaname> i feel ya. like i said weights/values ;)
[03:42] <sysop2> well nice talking to you. but does anyone know about running WD quick view in wine with a firewire drive?
[03:42] <toolazyforaname> lol
[03:42] <sysop2> I am just worried I will screw up my drive or something I just want to check the temp and there does not seem to be anyother way. hddtemp cant find it.
[03:43] <sun_warrior> does any one know  in dual boot to change windows without  loosing ubuntu?
[03:43] <toolazyforaname> sun_warrior: is ubuntu on the drive now?
[03:43] <toolazyforaname> and do you have a second drive you could use?
[03:43] <sun_warrior> ss i have seperate partion for windows and ubuntu
[03:44] <sun_warrior> At present i am using windows
[03:44] <bornagain> night all
[03:45] <toolazyforaname> change windows -- you mean like from 7-8?
[03:47] <sun_warrior> ??
[03:48] <toolazyforaname> sun_warrior: what do you mean `to change windows'
[03:49] <sun_warrior> Installing the OS again on the windows partion formating the old one...
[03:49] <toolazyforaname> upon installation, windows nukes linux
[03:49] <toolazyforaname> i do not know of any workaround
[03:50] <sun_warrior> oh if i change windows then i'll loose Linux too but i have lots of my work in ubuntu
[03:51] <eeee> you can probably use a live cd to reinstall grub
[03:51] <toolazyforaname> sun_warrior: do you have a secondary drive you can install windows to?
[03:51] <sysop2> how big is your linux partition?
[03:51] <sun_warrior> ss
[03:52] <sun_warrior> it's of 70 GB partition ext4
[03:52] <sysop2> ok, go get at 64gb thumb drive. and partimage the partition to it, partedmagic or the parted boot iso.
[03:52] <sysop2> then do your windows stuff
[03:53] <sysop2> then reinstall linux, since the partition will be the same size once its install you can use partiimage to overwrite the clean install with your old install
[03:54] <sysop2> 64gb thumgs are like $30 now.
[03:54] <sysop2> or just use an external drive you have laying around.
[03:55] <sun_warrior> ok thank u
[03:55] <rex_> I am getting Unable to open XAuthority file "/home/ubuntu/.Xauthority when trying to open teamviewer
[03:55] <rex_> xlde is my desktop environment
[03:56] <sysop2> also clonezilla has partimage as well just exit out of the menu.
[03:57] <eeee> OR... reinstall grub
[03:57] <eeee> :D
[03:57] <eeee> nighty
[03:57] <toolazyforaname> would reinstalling grub work?
[03:58] <toolazyforaname> after overwriting the new partition that is
[04:00] <rex_> I am getting Unable to open XAuthority file "/home/ubuntu/.Xauthority when trying to open teamviewer xlde is my desktop environment
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> rex_: you trying from other user or something?
[04:01] <sysop2> well I dont trust windows not to screw with my partitions during install,  but that way also works if you want to go to a bigger driver but you make your new partition slightly bigger than the old one, partimage the old install then use gparted or parted to grow the partiton to the full size of the drive.
[04:01] <sysop2> driver=drive
[04:01] <sysop2> I catn type tongith for some reason
[04:02] <rex_> yes, as ubuntu user
[04:03] <sysop2> and it saves you having to mess with grub(ugh)
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> rex_: try make a new user and start teamviewer from there to test
[04:04] <rex_> ok
[04:06] <sysop2> I took one drive that I had a full intall on it, partimaged it, setup a raid 10, made a slightly bigger partition that the one drive, install linux, partimaged the the old drive onto the new install, then I had run something called "fix kernal" or "kernel fix" to get it boot and boom it was done.  without losing my original install.
[04:06] <sysop2> and then used parted to expand it to the full size of the raid 19
[04:06] <sysop2> 10
[04:07] <sysop2> raid 10
[04:08] <sysop2> the "fix kernel" thing was because of the software raid 10, I have done it plenty of times onto a single drive without having to do that.
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> sysop2: plz use this channel for support only
[04:09] <sysop2> well fine then ttyl
[04:10] <cloudrf> sysop
[04:12] <cloudrf> all others join me in #linux-friends
[04:16] <logavanc> Hello all!  I was hoping to get some help with a quick question that is eluding me on Google...
[04:18] <logavanc> I am trying to understand why there is a difference between the output of a mount command on Fedora vs Ubuntu.  Specifically, "tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs" in Fedora, and "none on /run/shm type tmpfs" in Ubuntu.
[04:19] <logavanc> I found a Stack Exchange answer that called the first field the "fs_spec", but I don't understand why in Ubuntu it is called "none".
[04:22] <JordanJ2> Hi all, I'm running 14.04 and my screen goes grainy for a few seconds anywhere from 10 minutes to  few hours
[04:22] <JordanJ2> Only happens for a second or so
[04:44] <murlidhar> how to limit the upload speed ?
[04:44] <murlidhar> can it be done
[04:45] <agent_white> murlidhar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/776/how-i-can-limit-download-upload-bandwidth
[04:45] <agent_white> Otherwise, if you want it to apply to ALL machines in your LAN, do it in your router.
[04:46] <murlidhar> agent_white: hmmm
[04:47] <murlidhar> agent_white: i thought it would be easy doing on the desktop. but i wonder how to revert back to unlimited bandwidth speed using the trickle
[04:47] <agent_white> murlidhar: This _is_ the easy route ;)
[04:48] <Artemis3> trickle is app based tho, and not all apps work
[04:48] <super> just install windows!
[04:48] <murlidhar> super: :p never. the last time i used one was in 2007 :p
[04:49] <murlidhar> BSODss
[04:52] <murlidhar> agent_white: trickle -u 150 firefox
[04:52] <murlidhar> agent_white: is it how it works ?
[04:53] <agent_white> murlidhar: to limit upload limit... `trickle -uSomeUploadSpeedHere firefox`
[04:54] <murlidhar> agent_white: i was wrong ?
[04:54] <agent_white> murlidhar: No, you were right! :)
[04:54] <agent_white> murlidhar: Just clarifying. http://monkey.org/~marius/trickle/trickle.1.txt
[04:54] <murlidhar> trickle -u (upload limit in KB/s) -d (download limit in KB/s) application
[04:54] <agent_white> murlidhar: Correct!
[04:56] <murlidhar> talks about standalone mode hmmmm
[05:01] <skilz> How do I make a bootable windows 7 usb stick?
[05:04] <Abhijit> skilz, ##windows
[05:04] <skilz> I want to do it in Linux buddy
[05:04] <cfhowlett> skilz this is ubuntu support.  UBUNTU.
[05:04] <skilz> Yes
[05:04] <skilz> I need to create it in UBUNTU
[05:04] <skilz> I don't think it's a hybrid iso, dd didn't work.
[05:05] <mojach> If you got an iso image just dd it
[05:05] <Abhijit> skilz, best of luck.
[05:05] <skilz> Add it?
[05:05] <skilz> How?
[05:05] <mojach> Then what Abhijit said
[05:05] <skilz> I formatted the stick to ntfs
[05:05] <pete__> Any idea how can is create a customized filesystem?
[05:05] <skilz> Ur useless
[05:05] <Abhijit> pete__, as in?
[05:05] <cfhowlett> skilz insults get you ignored - consider your conduct.
[05:06] <pete__> Abhjit, i wan ubuntu to boot into my application
[05:06] <Abhijit> ??
[05:06] <Abhijit> pete__, what is your application?
[05:06] <pete__> Image processing application
[05:07] <cfhowlett> pete__ I'm on xubuntu, so it's a bit different, but you can set your system to autostart an application at boot.
[05:07] <Insom> I like applications
[05:09] <Abhijit> pete__, http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1c6ogu/linux_kiosk_solutions/ http://www.webconverger.com/ http://openkiosk.sourceforge.net/ and http://www.genkiosk.com/?gclid=CLTu4reT2L8CFRUVjgodoxwAWA
[05:09] <Abhijit> !pm | pet2001_
[05:09] <Abhijit> pete__, ^^
[05:09] <pete__> Sure abhijit
[05:09] <pete__> thx
[05:09] <Abhijit> pete__, see those 4 links i gave above
[05:10] <CharlesIC> hi friends
[05:10] <CharlesIC> please help
[05:10] <JordanJ2> Hi, Does anyone know a screenshot tool I can use to upload to a webserver via SFTP other then ScreenCloud?
[05:10] <CharlesIC> i bought a new HD because my other was going bad. im currently booting on an ubuntu live dvd
[05:10] <cloudrf> hey charles
[05:11] <mojach> CharlesIC: And you want to image your current drive or?
[05:11] <CharlesIC> well, i created similar partitions
[05:12] <CharlesIC> as both are 1TB
[05:12] <CharlesIC> so im using rsync
[05:12] <mojach> CharlesIC: I would say use dd to mirror the exact data
[05:12] <CharlesIC> or would it have made more sense to make an image?
[05:12] <CharlesIC> well, i'm already about 1/2 done now
[05:12] <CharlesIC> at any rate
[05:12] <CharlesIC> so my issue is, i read that it's better to have a GPT partition map
[05:13] <CharlesIC> so i created that on the new HD, but the thing is, although i created the volumes to mirror the old HD, the new HD only shows one partition when you do fdisk /dev/sdb
[05:13] <CharlesIC> whereas the old one shows 2 when you do fdisk /dev/sda
[05:13] <CharlesIC> both drives have a LV with 3 partitions - home, root, swap
[05:14] <super> RAID 1
[05:15] <CharlesIC> mojach, why does the new HD, with fdisk, not show the LV with fdisk, but the old one does?
[05:15] <super> vgdisplay?
[05:16] <CharlesIC> oh, lv tools sees it
[05:16] <super> CharlesIC, ld /dev/sd*
[05:16] <mojach> CharlesIC: did you create it?
[05:16] <CharlesIC> im just wondering why
[05:16] <CharlesIC> mojach, yes, i have 3 partitions in the LV on the new HD, just like the old LV
[05:16] <super> CharlesIC, if you like redundancy I say use RAID 1
[05:16] <CharlesIC> right now, im rsyncing from home on old HD LV to home on new HD LV
[05:16] <CharlesIC> i dont want redundancy
[05:16] <CharlesIC> the old HD Is failing
[05:17] <mojach> shows in /proc/part?
[05:17] <CharlesIC> i guess my question is, if partition table is GPT, does it display diff than msdos?
[05:17] <super> signs of dying hard drive is also a sign of bad PSU
[05:17] <super> you got a PSU tester?
[05:17] <Insom> true
[05:17] <Insom> and a bad psu is usually a sign of a bad cap
[05:18] <Insom> I'm not sure what a bad cap is a sign of though
[05:18] <CharlesIC> someone else who had the same hard drive had it die after about 2 years
[05:18] <CharlesIC> that's exactly what's happening to me
[05:18] <CharlesIC> at any rate
[05:18] <mojach> CharlesIC: Desktop drive? running 24/7?
[05:18] <CharlesIC> cat /proc/partitions shows sda1 sda2 and sdb1 and sdb2
[05:18] <Insom> ahh
[05:18] <CharlesIC> mojach, yeah
[05:18] <Insom> 24/7 drive that isn't THAT bad
[05:18] <mojach> CharlesIC: I hope you got a NAS drive or even enterprise for the new one
[05:19] <Insom> 5 years is what I'd expect with NORMAL use
[05:19] <super> what's the temp on your cpu, gpu, northbridge?
[05:19] <CharlesIC> ok, im moving to a new HD
[05:19] <CharlesIC> please just help me do that before we look at anything with the rest of the computer
[05:19] <super> CharlesIC, build a low power PC check out AMD athlon 5350 25watts TDP
[05:19] <CharlesIC> the hard drive was beginning to fail with bad blocks
[05:19] <CharlesIC> ive accepted that
[05:19] <CharlesIC> im not building another PC!
[05:19] <CharlesIC> good grief!
[05:20] <lemonsparrow> what is wrong with this script
[05:20] <lemonsparrow> if [ "${OSTYPE#darwin}" != "$OSTYPE"  ]
[05:20] <lemonsparrow> 	echo "Works"
[05:20] <lemonsparrow> else
[05:20] <lemonsparrow> 	echo "No"
[05:20] <lemonsparrow> fi
[05:20] <super> amd athlon 5350 $60, MSI AM1 $34.99
[05:20] <ahoneybun> s
[05:20] <BlackWeb> If you want a command to execute shouldn't /etc/rc.local be the file to place the command in?  When I use to use 12.04 it worked but now when I'm trying to restore my iptables on bootup the command in /etc/rc.local isnt restoring them
[05:27] <jnhghy> Hi, I've installed a while ago openerp7 and from the first update they release, the update manager keeps showing that I need to update opener, I did it for many times but even after I just update the update manager still shows it there.... is there anything I can do.
[05:27] <jnhghy> ?
[05:27] <lemonsparrow> how to check if string starts with "abc" in shell script ?
[05:27] <cfhowlett> jnhghy see openerp7 for openerp support.  doesn't seem to be an ubuntu issue
[05:30] <jnhghy> cfhowlett: they refereed me here as the update manager from ubuntu is the one showing the update...
[05:31] <jnhghy> cfhowlett: I'll uninstall it ... I don't even use it ... :D
[05:31] <cfhowlett> jnhghy sudo apt-get purge openerp7         then run apt-get autoremove to kill unneeded packages
[05:31] <jnhghy> cfhowlett:thanks :)-
[05:32] <cfhowlett> jnhghy happy2help
[05:42] <Insom> so does anyone here play with qemu?
[05:43] <RahulAN> Insom, yes i did, but failed
[05:43] <RahulAN> it is eating lot more resources and making my netbook slow.
[05:43] <Insom> yeah I've been researching
[05:44] <RahulAN> which os you want to run there?
[05:44] <Insom> I want to attempt to run a windows environment
[05:44] <RahulAN> So better move to virtual box
[05:44] <Insom> with passthrough to my gpu
[05:44] <Insom> nope
[05:45] <RahulAN> and if Android you want than geanymotion is the best i will say :)
[05:45] <Insom> vfio
[05:45] <Insom> used it, its nice
[05:45] <RahulAN> yes its awsome
[05:45] <Insom> but vfio seems to be my only recourse
[05:46] <skilz> How do I share a folder on my computer so my girlfriend can access the files through the network on her win7 laptop?
[05:46] <Insom> bare metal gpu access
[05:46] <Insom> umm samba?
[05:46] <Insom> skilz...
[05:47] <RahulAN> Insom, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37D2bRsthfI  check this
[05:48] <RahulAN> its wonderful
[05:48] <Insom> seen that video 12 times now
[05:48] <Insom> the thing is the nvidia vid cards are hit and miss right now
[05:49] <RahulAN> hahaha :)
[05:49] <Insom> I've not attempted yet, so you know
[05:49] <RahulAN> carry on with your trials :) luck for you
[05:49] <Insom> not tonight, I'll give a go tomorrow
[05:50] <Insom> I can't find ANY documentation on my current card
[05:50] <Insom> I'm running dual gt750m cards
[05:51] <RahulAN> great ..
[05:51] <Insom> BUT devoting my HDD to linux with a vm for windows would be awesome
[05:52] <Insom> I wouldn't have to be concerned about how much HDD to devote to either side
[05:52] <Insom> I have plenty of hardware for both side
[05:52] <Insom> sides
[05:57] <Insom> ugh :(
[05:57] <Insom> my processor doesn't support VT-d
[05:59] <atul> ping
[05:59] <Insom> pong
[06:12] <agent_white> boop
[06:14] <anon_> My CPU usage seems to be at 100% at all times. The application taking up the most time is bash, around 85% right now, but the only application running in it is irssi. No other application is running right now and this is a fresh install of the system.
[06:14] <anon_> The terminal emulator is Terminator.
[06:15] <wheatthin> anon_, can you trace the tree as in which bash script is running?
[06:15] <anon_> wheatthin: How do I do that?
[06:15] <anon_> wheatthin: Only irssi is running at the moment.
[06:15] <wheatthin> anon_, I use htop..
[06:16] <anon_> wheatthin: One moment.
[06:16] <wheatthin> anon_, no, the only "foreground" app may be irssi..
[06:16] <wheatthin> but definitely not the only one running
[06:16] <anon_> wheatthin: Ok well htop also says that the /bin/bash command is taking up a ton of cpu. What exactly am I looking for now?
[06:17] <wheatthin> well in htop, you can select a tree view.. usually it'll branch downward and show you the culprit
[06:18] <wheatthin> are you in console mode only?
[06:18] <wheatthin> with the mouse enabled, you can select the "command" column and it'll tree view from the root process
[06:19] <anon_> wheatthin: Yes. I trace the command and a ton of unfriendly output appears.
[06:19] <agent_white> anon_: http://superuser.com/questions/174660/why-is-the-cpu-usage-reported-by-top-in-linux-over-100
[06:19] <agent_white> anon_: ie - Divide that percentage by your total cores.
[06:20] <agent_white> or
[06:20] <agent_white> anon_: http://superuser.com/questions/457624/why-is-the-top-command-showing-a-cpu-usage-of-799
[06:20] <agent_white> anon_: TLDR; use `htop`, not `top`
[06:20] <anon_> agent_white: But I'm not getting a cpu usage above 100?
[06:21] <agent_white> anon_: "My CPU usage seems to be at 100% at all times."
[06:21] <agent_white> anon_: I would still recommend the same.
[06:21] <agent_white> Checkout htop, and see what happens.
[06:21] <anon_> agent_white: That's what I've been using...
[06:22] <agent_white> anon_: Oh wow! I read wrong! Sorry!
[06:22] <wheatthin> so how many cpu cores do you have in your computer?
[06:23] <agent_white> anon_: And what does top show compared to htop?
[06:23] <anon_> 1 core
[06:23] <wheatthin> anon_ are you using i386?
[06:24] <wheatthin> 32bit?
[06:24] <anon_> no
[06:24] <anon_> 64 bit
[06:24] <wheatthin> older gen cpu?
[06:24] <anon_> nope
[06:24] <wheatthin> Umm, it has to be. .lol one core, or one cpu? most 64bit (new ones) are at least dual core
[06:24] <anon_> it's a virtual machine
[06:25] <wheatthin> ahh.. well then that makes a difference
[06:25] <wheatthin> do you have vmware-tools or virtualbox additions installed?
[06:25] <anon_> wheatthin: yup
[06:25] <anon_> vbox guest additions is installed
[06:25] <wheatthin> and how much ram is alotted?
[06:26] <anon_> wheatthin: 5gb
[06:26] <wheatthin> 5gb of ram to a single core vbox machine? hmm
[06:27] <wheatthin> anyways, vbox additions is installed, does this cpu support VT-x?
[06:27] <anon_> wheatthin: Well my system has 32 gb of ram
[06:27] <wheatthin> very nice..
[06:27] <anon_> wheatthin: I don't think so
[06:27] <wheatthin> I'd like 32gb of ram, but fb-dimms are expensive
[06:28] <anon_> wheatthin: it's a mac, so it was very expensive to begin with
[06:28] <anon_> wheatthin: Anyways, perhaps it does have VT-x, let me check
[06:28] <wheatthin> yeah, mine is a dual quad core xeon server.. was at one time expensive too :P
[06:28] <agent_white> anon_: I got disconnected. But are you sure you have a 1core CPU? It must be a 10yearold+ computer.
[06:28] <agent_white> If that is the case.
[06:29] <wheatthin> agent_white, it's a single core vbox with 5gb of ram
[06:29] <agent_white> "Multi-core processors were developed in the early 2000s by Intel".
[06:29] <anon_> wheatthin: Ok apparently it does have VT-x, and it's enabled
[06:29] <agent_white> wheatthin: For sure?
[06:29] <agent_white> wheatthin: A simple make/model would help to prove this.
[06:30] <anon_> wheatthin: Perhaps I should just give the machine another core, see if that helps out?
[06:30] <wheatthin> anon_, and it's enabled in virtualbox as well?
[06:30] <anon_> wheatthin: Yes.
[06:30] <wheatthin> anon_, I'm sure it won't hurt
[06:30] <anon_> wheatthin: OSX is utilizing 8 cores, so perhaps I can give it one more?
[06:30] <wheatthin> yup
[06:31]  * agent_white sighs
[06:31] <wheatthin> anon_, plus osx is utilizing your gpu for some stuff too, so yeah
[06:31] <agent_white> "in a virtualmachine" would have been helpful from the start.
[06:31] <anon_> agent_white: Said that already
[06:31] <anon_> wheatthin: Thanks for the help, I've got to restart. See you.
[06:31] <wheatthin> anon_ he had been disconnected.. be nice :)
[06:31] <agent_white> anon_: Oh sorry, must have missed it. When I was here you said 1 CPU... without mentioning VM.
[06:31] <agent_white> ;)
[06:32] <agent_white> wheatthin: Hehe I'd rather have him lash back then some others who refuse to paste direct error messages. ;P
[06:32] <agent_white> "Oh yeah... the error was mispelled as I saw..."
[06:33] <tarelerulz> I have an 4.4.2 Android phone and  It use MTP , ptp and USB 3 none of those options work.  It should an error the other day ,but it worked.    Any have you have an idea what I should do
[06:33] <agent_white> Well...
[06:34] <agent_white> wheatthin: http://serverfault.com/questions/346410/cpu-utilization-over-100-in-linux-system
[06:34] <agent_white> ' virtual machines can dynamically alter the CPU capacity in response to the needs of the VM. I have seen a single process showing up as using 9999% CPU in top from within a VM. The advice given by VMWare about this is "Don't trust metrics measured from within the VM".  '
[06:34] <agent_white> :/
[06:34] <agent_white> Well... guess he'll wonder why the IRC protocol is so intense on his CPU for awhile. ;D
[06:34] <wheatthin> agent_white, yes, but if VT-x is enabled, I guess it has direct access and thus doesn't have that problem
[06:34] <agent_white> wheatthin: Oh no shit?"
[06:34] <wheatthin> ahh language plz
[06:35] <agent_white> Sorry!
[06:35] <agent_white> wheatthin: Do you have a link for me to follow? -- May be able to find it shortly here though.
[06:35] <wheatthin> vt-x? intel cpu's
[06:35] <wheatthin> Umm one second
[06:36] <wheatthin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/256792/how-do-i-enable-hardware-virtualization-technology-vt-x-for-use-in-virtualbox
[06:36] <apb1963> I'd like to install a package from a ppa, but I'm concerned about whether it will potentially overwrite/upgrade system libraries and/or other files, thereby breaking my system.  Here is the list of files it wants to play with http://paste.ubuntu.com/7834339/  How can I determine whether or not its safe to install this package?
[06:36] <wheatthin> ppa's will break some things if unmanaged
[06:36] <apb1963> ubuntu 12.04
[06:36] <wheatthin> !ppa
[06:36] <agent_white> wheatthin: Thank ye!
[06:37] <apb1963> wheatthin: consequently, the reason I'm asking the question.
[06:37] <wheatthin> !ppa-purge apb1963
[06:37] <agent_white> wheatthin: Question... did you know that off the top of your head? The link you gave me has nothing to do with metrics in a VM. Yet is still very useful.
[06:37] <apb1963> please don't purge me
[06:38] <wheatthin> lolol
[06:38] <Beldar> sudo apt-get autoremove apb1963
[06:39] <wheatthin> lol @ Beldar
[06:39] <apb1963> purging the ppa is not the issue... purging the libraries it upgrades after installing the package is the issue... especially when it's a library half the system depends on.  Like libqt4core
[06:39] <apb1963> Beldar: cut that out
[06:40] <wheatthin> yes, you purge the thing, and you sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:40] <wheatthin> update*.. then upgrade
[06:40] <Beldar> apb1963, All your asking and want is not supported here, as well a finite answer is impossible. ;)
[06:40] <wheatthin> should clean it
[06:40] <apb1963> wheatthin: and that will reverse the upgrade?
[06:41] <wheatthin> you can also check out ppa-purge's options.. might be detailed info
[06:42] <apb1963> wheatthin: something installed  *** 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa6 0 and I'm building a new disk... I don't want it to happen again.
[06:42] <wheatthin> but for future references, don't use PPA's
[06:42] <wheatthin> or use them at your own risk
[06:42] <wheatthin> then upgrade to 14.04 :)
[06:43] <apb1963> wheatthin: I'm trying to minimize my risk by trying to find out whether the list of files it intends to install is safe.
[06:43] <wheatthin> no, it's not.
[06:43] <apb1963> wheatthin: eventually, I will.  But that day is not today.
[06:43] <wheatthin> they'll require modified or updated versions that puts our versions in the repo out of wack, which is why it's not supported
[06:44] <apb1963> wheatthin: that's a generic answer, not based on the specific list I've supplied... right?
[06:45] <wheatthin> apb1963, yes, that's just about as generic yet specific enough to what you're going to get from here.
[06:45] <wheatthin> use ppa-purge.. hopefully it'll untweak the unmanage packages, and then set things right
[06:45] <sexy> Suka sex chat
[06:45] <wheatthin> if not, I'd use it anyways, and upgrade
[06:45] <ddssc> ubuntu just went pearshaped on me... can't even open display settings. 14.04 lts btw... how do I open display settings from terminal??
[06:46] <wheatthin> sexy, I'd like it if you changed your name to something more family friendly
[06:46] <wheatthin> and topic
[06:47] <ddssc> updates are supposed to keep your system up to date, not break it ... why I love open source..
[06:48] <STMelon> family friendly on IRC? rofl
[06:48] <wheatthin> ddssc, unmanaged, unofficial updates can be manipulated and broken.
[06:48] <wheatthin> thanks for the input tho
[06:49] <ddssc> wheatthin,  unofficial ? I only click install when the VERY OFFICIAL ubuntu popup asks me to
[06:49] <agent_white> Hehehe. If you are capable of connecting to IRC... curse-words should be second-nature.
[06:49] <agent_white> ;P
[06:49] <wheatthin> no, family friendly in #ubuntu.
[06:49] <wheatthin> if not, you're more than welcome to find help elsewhere
[06:49] <ddssc> if you use open source you are guaranteed to say fuck a lot
[06:49] <STMelon> this is a tech/support IRC. mostly techys and ppl needing help come here. this surely is not a FAMILY oriented IRC network
[06:49] <agent_white> ddssc: Hey now! That's Linus' favorite word!
[06:49] <dominik> i love guys and ubu
[06:50] <apb1963> what will give me a list of what packages I have installed from which unsupported ppas?
[06:50] <STMelon> i usually do wheatthin ... i know how to use google, and rarely, IF ever even talk here :P
[06:50] <dominik> connect #xdf
[06:50] <ddssc> lets face it if your kids are capable of connecting to irc, they've seen things online way worse than curse words..
[06:50] <agent_white> ^ tldr
[06:50] <wheatthin> that's a mute issue ddssc
[06:51] <STMelon> well when kids are having sex way before they know IRC exists? i agree ddssc
[06:51] <ddssc> on another notice. can someone tell me why my display settings have miraculously dissaperaed from my menu and why i can't access them?
[06:51] <agent_white> STMelon: language
[06:51] <ddssc> or rather how do I access my display settings from terminal?
[06:51] <STMelon> anyways, sex is a bad word? LOL
[06:51] <STMelon> typical of the ubuntu children here
[06:51] <ddssc> because ubuntu suddenly decided to hide half the stuff I open because I don't have dual monitors plugged in, but I can't do anything about it
[06:51] <wheatthin> no, I said it's not family oriented, come on now, grow up.
[06:53] <ddssc> ...
[06:53] <agent_white> wheatthin: Hehe we're just giving you a rough time. ;)
[06:53] <agent_white> Keeping it respectable is alrighty.
[06:54] <ts9i> how does anacron determine the hour to run daily or weekly jobs?
[06:54] <wheatthin> anyways, display problems..  areyou in console?
[06:55] <ddssc> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ANDWER MY QUESTION?
[06:55] <ddssc> or rather how do I access my display settings from terminal?
[06:55] <super> ddssc, did you install your video driver?
[06:55] <ddssc> super, yea
[06:55] <super> well type startx
[06:55] <Deepspeed> ddssc, try xrandr?
[06:56] <ddssc> Deepspeed,  http://pastebin.com/ttFUNmUF
[06:57] <ddssc> super, on another note, where do I check that?
[06:57] <ddssc> my display settings have dissapeared from all menus and I can't access the global settings
[06:57] <super> virtualmachine?
[06:57] <ts9i> anacron is picking 8AM as teh time to run weekly jobs, on a computer that's up all day. I'd prefer if it did weekly jobs when I'm not logged in. Any way other than getting rid of anacron?
[06:57] <ddssc> super, nope
[06:58] <wheatthin> ts9i, probably a script that says to do while mouse is idle for so long
[06:58] <somsip> ts9i: which job?
[06:58] <wheatthin> after a certain time
[06:58] <ddssc> when I call gnome-control-center I don't see display settings?
[06:59] <ts9i> somsip: weekly jobs include fstrim which takes around 20-30 minutes for me, which would be fine as long as it ran while I'm not trying to work
[06:59] <wheatthin> You don't have a icon that says displays ddssc ?
[06:59] <ddssc> wheatthin, NO, ITS WHAT IM SAYING THE WHOLE TIME
[06:59] <ddssc> it just dissapeared for no apparent reason, cant access my display settings or anything
[07:00] <somsip> ts9i: edit /etc/crontab and change the hour for /etc/cron.weekly jobs
[07:00] <ddssc> which is lovely because I've work to do and i have to fuck around with ubuntu
[07:00] <ts9i> somsip: weekly jobs are supposedly setup to run on 6:47 on Sundays. It actually ran around 8AM today (Tuesday) due to anacron.
[07:01] <ilham> hello
[07:01] <ts9i> somsip: anacron does not use the exact times from crontab, that's for sure. It uses anacrontab which only has a "weekly" note and no mention of teh hour
[07:02] <wheatthin> ddssc,  gnome-control-center -l
[07:02] <wheatthin> does it show in the term?
[07:03] <wheatthin> ddssc, stop cursing plz
[07:03] <somsip> ts9i: maybe some helpful info here - looks like sleep and CPU demand affects when it is run http://is.gd/tcvNau
[07:04] <hashworks> Is there any way to use UTF8 and 256 Colors in the headless console (Ctrl+Alt+F1 etc)?
[07:04] <ikonia> hashworks: the fact that it's headless makes no difference
[07:04] <ikonia> hashworks: the client is what dictates if you can use utf/colour
[07:05] <ddssc> wheatthin, http://pastebin.com/Genm9JPk
[07:05] <ddssc> wheatthin, Im usually not cursing, but open source has a way of making me do it
[07:05] <hashworks> So it should be possible? which client is used by ubuntu without any desktop manager ikonia?
[07:06] <ikonia> hashworks: none, you have to install one
[07:06] <ikonia> hashworks: or - if you are not connecting from the ubuntu machine, you need to install a client on your client machine
[07:07] <feyisayo_> Hello everyone. Does anyone know how to install Elementary OS alongside Ubuntu 14.04?
[07:07] <hashworks> No, I'm not connecting to it - I'm on the pc where ubuntu is installed and turning off lightdm.
[07:07] <ikonia> feyisayo_: just a standard dual boot linux setup
[07:07] <hashworks> And then console only starts up, as expected
[07:08] <ikonia> feyisayo_: I advise against this though
[07:08] <ikonia> hashworks: so you want utf and colour support on the console ?
[07:08] <boss1234100> hello
[07:08] <hashworks> In gnome terminal its not a problem
[07:08] <ikonia> hashworks: not actually on a client, you want it on the console
[07:09] <feyisayo_> Thanks ikonia. I was hoping to have it as a shell option in the login page
[07:09] <boss1234100> can someone help me
[07:09] <ts9i> somsip: seems it's caused by /etc/cron.d/anacron running anacron at 7:30 in the morning.
[07:09] <ikonia> feyisayo_: so you don't want a dual boot - you just want the desktop enviornment
[07:09] <fidel_> boss1234100: start by describing your problem first ;)
[07:09] <boss1234100> well
[07:10] <boss1234100> fidel_: my teamspeak that i installed in terminal wont open
[07:10] <feyisayo_> ikonia: that's right
[07:10] <boss1234100> dont know why
[07:11] <ikonia> feyisayo_: you'd probably be better talking to the elementrary guys on this as it's their packages/ppa and to intergrate them into a standard ubuntu install without any damage
[07:11] <ikonia> feyisayo_: I strongly advise you to look into what they change as it maybe hard to put things back if you're not careful
[07:11] <fidel_> boss1234100: well - never used TS on ubuntu myself. try starting it from terminal and check the output - if it gives some
[07:11] <feyisayo_> Thanks ikonia
[07:12] <feyisayo_> ikonia: I'll give that a shot
[07:12] <hashworks> ikonia: Sort of. Colors aren't working at all in the "headless" console. As I see now UTF8 works but it's using a different font, trough. Is there a way to enable colors and a different font?
[07:12] <boss1234100> ok
[07:13] <ikonia> hashworks: please showme the output of "echo $TERM" please
[07:13] <hashworks> ikonia: xterm-256color, as set in the .bashrc file.
[07:13] <boss1234100> let me figure how to open it
[07:13] <ikonia> hashworks: so that should be showing colour
[07:14] <ikonia> hashworks: what colour are you expecting ?
[07:14] <ikonia> (expecting that you're not getting)
[07:14] <hashworks> Any color. Headless console is only black n' white
[07:14] <hashworks> Gnome terminal shows 256 trough
[07:15] <ikonia> please run "ls -l --color=auto"
[07:16] <hashworks> Shows simple blue n' green - seems like 8 or 16 colors work and everything else is black n' white because I'm trying to use 256 colors
[07:17] <ikonia> hashworks: thats the correct colours for ls
[07:17] <ikonia> what do you mean you're trying to use 256 colors, how do you know you're not using 256 colours now
[07:17] <ikonia> you've just seen that the console supports colours
[07:18] <hashworks> Because when I use the gnome console a cyan 256 color shows cyan, and the headless console shows white.
[07:18] <ikonia> a cyan 256 color ?
[07:18] <ikonia> hashworks: where ?
[07:18] <hashworks> TMUX bar
[07:18] <ikonia> hashworks: what command are you running in gnome terminal that looks different in the console
[07:19] <ikonia> is there any colour in your tmux setup
[07:19] <ikonia> I don't know how you've setup tmux so I can't comment
[07:20] <hashworks> for i in {16..21} {21..16} ; do echo -en "\e[38;5;${i}m#\e[0m" ; done ; echo
[07:20] <hashworks> this shows ########### in different blue colors
[07:20] <hashworks> In gnome terminal
[07:20] <hashworks> In the headless console it's just white.
[07:21] <boss1234100> anyone use teamspeak for ubuntu?
[07:21] <ikonia> hashworks: that suggests it may not support the full colour pallet then
[07:22] <ikonia> hashworks: although that could also be echo not being setup right
[07:22] <boss1234100> because i dont know why my teamspeak wont open
[07:22] <ikonia> hashworks: looks like echo should be fine as it is
[07:23] <hashworks> Yup, I guess the headless console is kind of simple/stable
[07:23] <hashworks> So a change of the font won't be possible as well I guess?
[07:24] <boss1234100> anyone help me out with teamspeak
[07:24] <Beldar> !details | boss
[07:24] <Beldar> boss1234100, ^^^^^^^
[07:25] <boss1234100> well my teamspeak wont open at all
[07:25] <boss1234100> i installed it in terminal
[07:25] <hashworks> Whats the output of strerr boss1234100?
[07:25] <boss1234100> output?
[07:25] <hashworks> Start it using the terminal
[07:26] <ikonia> hashworks: should be able to change the fonts
[07:26] <hashworks> Then it should output strout and strerr
[07:26] <hashworks> ikonia: At least something :)
[07:26] <ikonia> hashworks: I'll need to check but I thought it supported full colour configuratoin
[07:26] <ikonia> it may not be configured
[07:26] <boss1234100> umm i dont what to do
[07:26] <boss1234100> i just start 2 days ago lol
[07:27] <boss1234100> start
[07:28] <snadge> does ubuntu's built in vnc allow you to remotely log in to an existing session? eg.. screen sharing?
[07:28] <hashworks> boss1234100: Find the path of your teamspeak installation. Then start the ts3client_runscript.sh in Terminal. I'm not having it installed here, trough
[07:28] <hashworks> Try "locate ts3client_runscript.sh"
[07:28] <snadge> or do i need to use something like teamviewer for that.. except now teamviewer has disabled my login saying suspected commercial use :|
[07:28] <energizer> I'm using Dolphin gamecube emulator, and my cpu heats up reeeallly fast (>85C) despite my i7 3.4Ghz. I have a stock fan and no dedicated graphics card. What do you suggest I do first?
[07:29] <ikonia> energizer: ask in ##hardware
[07:29] <ikonia> energizer: not an OS problem
[07:29] <hashworks> ikonia: How is the console called when I use Ctrl+Alt+F1? Is "headless console" the right term? So I could google for some configuration.
[07:29] <energizer> ikonia: thanks
[07:29] <ikonia> hashworks: it's not "called"
[07:29] <hashworks> *named
[07:30] <ikonia> hashworks: look at the inittab, and you'll see it get setu
[07:30] <ikonia> setup
[07:30] <hashworks> Sry for my bad english ;)
[07:30] <ikonia> hashworks: english is fine
[07:30] <boss1234100> this correct?
[07:30] <boss1234100> sudo ts3client_runscript.sh
[07:30] <hashworks> You don't need to start it with root. Try bash ts3[...] boss1234100
[07:31] <boss1234100> am new to this sorry
[07:31] <hashworks> ikonia: What do you mean with inittab?
[07:31] <boss1234100> only been using linux for 2 days
[07:32] <energizer> ikonia: they seem to be speaking in russian in ##hardware.  is that typical?
[07:33] <energizer> nm
[07:33] <YamakasY> what do I need to add to my apt sources when I want to have the net installer available ?
[07:33] <hashworks> boss1234100: Did you located the file sucessfully?
[07:33] <hashworks> *locate
[07:33] <boss1234100> umm
[07:33] <boss1234100> dont know lol
[07:33] <boss1234100> i know its on my desktop
[07:33] <boss1234100> in a folder
[07:34] <hashworks> Do you know how to cd to that folder using your terminal?
[07:34] <boss1234100> umm no
[07:34] <boss1234100> just started on this 2 days ago
[07:37] <hashworks> Hm...You should try to read some beginner tutorials first and learn the most basic stuff. What's your first language?
[07:38] <fidel_> boss1234100: to change to another folder in Terminal you can use the command 'cd'. i.e. open a terminal and enter 'cd Desktop'
[07:38] <boss1234100> english
[07:38] <NilBud> boss1234100, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGGj3hc6R8Q&list=PLsMLAwgiqdxl5U6m9ZnefcfC0xncvLCL5
[07:38] <fidel_> boss1234100: this should move you from your home folder to your desktop folder in your terminal session
[07:38] <boss1234100> ok
[07:38] <hashworks> You can open a Terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T btw.
[07:39] <fidel_> from there its most likely another 'cd NAME OF YOUR TS FOLDER' command to jump to that one
[07:39] <boss1234100> after i do that
[07:39] <boss1234100> do i do cd again?
[07:39] <ddssc> wheatthin, Im usually not cursing, but open source has a way of making me do it
[07:39] <ddssc> when I call gnome-control-center I don't see display settings?
[07:40] <fidel_> If you reached your ts-folder: as a next step - use the 'ls' command to display the files in that folder in your terminal session
[07:41] <fidel_> it might sound complicated - but getting started with a terminal is somehow essential in linux - and its getting better over time ;)
[07:41] <jgvcv> hdhfc
[07:41] <boss1234100> well right now am just getting this
[07:41] <boss1234100> >
[07:42] <boss1234100> in the terminal
[07:42] <fidel_> boss1234100: the cmd 'pwd' outputs your current folder - if that helps to locate where you are right now ;)
[07:42] <joker_> fidel what distro you suggest for starters aside ubuntu and mint what all suggest?
[07:43] <boss1234100> well its not doing nothing lol
[07:43] <boss1234100> just did pwd
[07:43] <boss1234100> all i got was this >
[07:44] <fidel_> joker_: i dont know - i dont think there are that big differences. depends what you want to use it for most likely
[07:44] <subcool> what do you guys use for an IRC client, im using xchat.. and its ticking me off
[07:44] <boss1234100> am useing pidgin
[07:45] <fidel_> boss1234100: press ENTER. then enter: 'pwd' followed by ENTER. What is the output
[07:45] <joker_> so all are terminal wise equal...
[07:45] <fidel_> joker_: similar - one main diff is the package-management and default package-selection
[07:45] <joker_> if i learn use terminal on one i can use on all the same commands ?
[07:45] <fidel_> most yes
[07:46] <boss1234100> am getting the arrow thing again
[07:46] <hashworks> boss1234100: Your output of pwd is ">"?
[07:46] <boss1234100> yes
[07:46] <fidel_> see my package-manager example: you wont find "apt' on fedora - there it is replaced by 'yum' ..but overall main commands are same
[07:46] <joker_> ok so i just pick one that is game friendly with steam and all and than try use terminal
[07:46] <hashworks> Whats does your prompt (the thing before your enter anything) looks like?
[07:47] <boss1234100> NV57H:~$ 'pwd
[07:47] <hashworks> clear
[07:47] <fidel_> joker_: one big diff in distris is the amount of documentation & discussion you'll find in the web around that distri
[07:47] <hashworks> Remove the '
[07:48] <fidel_> joker_: i.e. arch has a great wiki - ubuntu has tons of beginner-guides ...there or tons of other minor differences. Hope that helps getting your question answered
[07:48] <FuzzyWhirlpool> boss1234100: You need to learn how to use shell.
[07:48] <boss1234100> ok that must have been the problem
[07:48] <boss1234100> i know
[07:48] <boss1234100> its this now
[07:48] <boss1234100> :~/Desktop$
[07:48] <hashworks> Whats the output of: ls
[07:48] <hashworks> ?
[07:49] <fidel_> boss1234100: as mentioned above: now use 'cd NAME-OF_YOUR_TS_FOLDER_ON_YOUR_DESKTOP'
[07:49] <joker_> thank you fidel_ a llot
[07:49] <boss1234100> ok just did
[07:49] <fidel_> or find out that name using 'ls'
[07:49] <boss1234100> am inside the folder
[07:49] <ben__> hello
[07:49] <boss1234100> /Desktop/TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64$
[07:49] <fidel_> boss1234100: now get an overview of that folder using the 'ls' command once again ;)
[07:49] <fidel_> it should show the content
[07:50] <hashworks> Is there a ts3client_runscript.sh in the output of ls (aka in the folder)?
[07:50] <boss1234100> ok its showing
[07:50] <boss1234100> yes
[07:50] <hashworks> Run it by using "bash ts3client_runscript.sh".
[07:50] <boss1234100> i see the runscript
[07:51] <joker_> one more question i installed ubuntu and i remember 1 year ago i installed ubuntu as well and it added automaticaly good drivers for my ati card im not sure it did now
[07:51] <boss1234100> ok
[07:51] <boss1234100> the teamspeak opened
[07:51] <fidel_> boss1234100: wasnt that easy? ;)
[07:51] <boss1234100> yea
[07:52] <boss1234100> so how do i set it
[07:52] <boss1234100> to open just by double clicking it?
[07:52] <hashworks> I guess now he should try to create a .desktop file
[07:52] <fidel_> boss1234100: take yourself some time and niavigate around within your terminal. its really essential to get those commands mentioned before in your brain
[07:52] <fidel_> otherwise you'll having problems forever ;)
[07:52] <boss1234100> how do i make one
[07:53] <boss1234100>  for teamspeak?
[07:53] <hashworks> There are some good tutorials for .desktop files out there I think :)
[07:53] <boss1234100> ok
[07:54] <hashworks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[07:54] <boss1234100> am going to use that
[07:55] <fidel_> joker_: i guess starting: 'software-properties-gtk' might open an ui with a tab for additional drivers
[07:56] <joker_> thanks will search for that now
[07:57] <boss1234100> ubuntu works so much better for me than windows
[07:57] <boss1234100> lol
[07:57] <fidel_> boss1234100: be sure to learn 'apt' as well - its really helpful.
[07:57] <joker_> fidel  that you meant software center and graphical?
[07:57] <boss1234100> ok
[07:57] <fidel_> joker_: i guess starting: 'software-properties-gtk' might open an ui with a tab for additional drivers
[07:58] <fidel_> exactly that ;)
[07:58] <fidel_> isnt it opening up?
[07:59] <joker_> it have some things but nothing that would send me to drivers or such stuff
[07:59] <joker_> is there some terminal command mybe for ati driveers update
[07:59] <joker_> in ubuntu 14
[08:00] <joker_> sorry im the newbiest of all
[08:00] <joker_> im not joking
[08:01] <FuzzyWhirlpool> you are joker_ and you claim yourself not joking? You are so funny, joker_ !
[08:02] <joker_> well i will change nick...just want drivers for ati
[08:02] <joker_> and sound and video in ubuntu is nothing like in windows control panel
[08:03] <YamakasY> what is the difference between debian-installer and installer-amd64 ?
[08:03] <joker_> graphical ...is nothing about drivers also
[08:03] <trijntje> joker_: go to software & updates, then to the tab 'additional drivers'
[08:04] <joker_> so should i pick science and ingeniring lol.....thank you trijntje
[08:04] <trijntje> joker_: are you in the software center? You don't use the software center, you use system settings
[08:05] <trijntje> or you can search for software & updates directly from the Dash (hit the windows key)
[08:05] <joker_> yes i was in software center :/
[08:06] <anon1_> What is that advanced settings tool called where you can mess with Unity a bit more than usual?
[08:06] <trijntje> joker_: yeah, the drivers are hard to find in ubuntu. There used to be a special program to install drivers but it was removed, and now its hard to find unless you know where to look
[08:07] <trijntje> anon1_: unity tweak tool? Or compizconfig settings manager
[08:07] <NilBud> yea, unity tweak tool
[08:08] <anon1_> Thanks
[08:09] <joker_> trijntje so for install what they call propretary drivers ones good for games....thats hard now ? before was automatical kinda
[08:09] <trijntje> joker_: its not hard, but its hard to find if you dont know where to look
[08:09] <joker_> so what are chances i will get that work based on fact im new and want to play games
[08:09] <trijntje> joker_: 100%
[08:10] <trijntje> go to system settings -> Software & updates -> Additional drivers, click the one you want, done
[08:10] <joker_> i see you seem to know 100% what you talking about,,,ok thank you
[08:11] <trijntje> i've been using ubuntu a long time, so I know some things ;)
[08:12] <joker_> but there is no proprietary drivers in use....so means i have them not installed
[08:13] <joker_> in software update tab i got that info
[08:13] <trijntje> joker_: it says that there are no drivers available? It should list all available drivers
[08:13] <joker_> i also incliuded cannonical thingy
[08:14] <joker_> no additional drivers avalible.... and doesnt show what i have installed or what version
[08:14] <trijntje> joker_: have you tried any games? Sometimes ubuntu has good drivers by default, I can also play steam games on my pc without proprietary drivers
[08:15] <joker_> well i can try diablo 3 if it can run that i guess its ok driver
[08:16] <joker_> ok will give a shot....you know downloading huge game to figure out you have no drivers is normaly not funny
[08:16] <joker_> thank you for help and support and patience
[08:16] <trijntje> joker_: diablo doesnt run on ubuntu, as far as I know
[08:17] <joker_> it did run 1 year ago on my lap top
[08:17] <joker_> or i was so lucky...should ijust go install 12.4 ubuntu than
[08:18] <trijntje> joker_: it could work, but it could also be a violation of the EULA, and blizzard could ban your CD key
[08:18] <joker_> acer extensa 7620
[08:19] <joker_> i dont belive they would cause i waited 1h for them to answer on my call..they are busy lol
[08:20] <joker_> i go test drivers i let you know if works diablo 3 on ubuntu 14
[08:22] <kbroulik> Hi there, I was wondering, is there a way to downgrade the google-chrome-stable package? I want version 34 back :(
[08:26] <PotatoHead0077> Hello :) i am having troubles with my atheros card
[08:26] <PotatoHead0077> I have tried pretty much everything, including the "sudo echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" > /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf" fix
[08:27] <PotatoHead0077> But my wireless connection is still horrid
[08:28] <PotatoHead0077> I have tried pretty much everything, including the "sudo echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" > /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf" fix
[08:28] <PotatoHead0077>  But my wireless connection is still horrid :/
[08:28] <subcool> because you guys are actually ehlpful
[08:28] <subcool> i have win8 with kaspersky
[08:29] <subcool> im TRYING to secure my network a bit. more or less my stupid win8 machine. - i need to make it .. usable
[08:29] <subcool> i have shares on there i need to be viewable
[08:29] <subcool> hwo the freak do it do it
[08:30] <subcool> i freaking hate windows. really i do
[08:30] <PotatoHead0077> is there anyone who can help me with my atheros card problem?
[08:30] <PotatoHead0077> Get Ubuntu 14.04 LTS :P
[08:30] <subcool> yeah.. - cant
[08:30] <subcool> kinda
[08:30] <subcool> i have it
[08:30] <subcool> im on it
[08:30] <subcool> but- i have this shitbox laptop that has win8
[08:31] <pa> why "set as default" for choosing another application to open file types with does not work?
[08:31] <subcool> and i need to deal with it for amomoent
[08:31] <quattro_> is it possible to detect if sound is playing from the command line?
[08:31] <pa> i click it and nothing changes
[08:31] <pa> what's the problem?
[08:31] <somsip> quattro_: use aplay
[08:31] <subcool> id help potato - but... idk
[08:31] <saurav> how does ubuntu on acer notebook keeps booing into the shell rather than the system
[08:31] <PotatoHead0077> yea :/
[08:32] <subcool> saurav, because there is an error, and its crashing
[08:32] <subcool> saurav, check dmesg
[08:32] <Seveaz> saurav: graphics driver problems, X not installed or it's simply configured to do so
[08:32] <quattro_> somsip: thanks that should work :)
[08:32] <subcool> saurav, could be so many things..
[08:32] <Seveaz> if dmesg doesn't say anything useful, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:33] <subcool> saurav, my common prob for that is that /home is full
[08:33] <pa> and why in the world is handbrake the default handler for mp4, in 14.04?????
[08:33] <anon1_> Why does netcat hang forever when scanning a range of ports? If I scan port 22 (I know it's open), it returns immediately, but if I scan say, 21-25, it just hangs forever at the first one.
[08:33] <anon1_> here is my syntax: nc -zv <IP_ADDRESS> 21-25
[08:33] <subcool> pa defautls are defaults.. just download mplayer or vlc
[08:34] <pa> i did download those
[08:34] <pa> but how to set them as default??
[08:34] <Seveaz> anon1_: -w3
[08:34] <pa> the bloody button does not work
[08:34] <subcool> anon1_, because there are r block, rejected or dropped commuications for that port and the computer is waiting for a result that wont occur
[08:34] <subcool> pa rightclick - set as defualt
[08:35] <pa> subcool, i did, but nothing changes
[08:35] <pa> subcool, that means the button does nt work
[08:35] <subcool> it works.. maybe a reboot
[08:36] <pa> i see
[08:36] <pa> are these defaults kept in some file?
[08:36] <subcool> yep
[08:36] <subcool> idk which though
[08:36] <pa> i see
[08:38] <subcool> my linux computer can not see the smb shares.. which make sesnse since im trying to secure my windows computer- but OMG
[08:38] <subcool> it says its not protected.. i do a lil tinking.. and its finally set..
[08:38] <subcool> now i cant setup simple shares.. OMG@!!!
[08:40] <Busserl> subcool: I recently had problems connecting a windows 8.1 client to a samba server.
[08:41] <subcool> Busserl, is very common.. windows sucks.. but- wtf?!
[08:41] <Busserl> It seemed like the same config worked before, maybe some defaults changed.
[08:41] <subcool> reboot a few times.. and turn off the firewall... nd tada
[08:41] <subcool> windows is just horrible.
[08:41] <subcool> but i need it
[08:41] <subcool> i have to know this shit.
[08:41] <subcool> but- AGGH!!
[08:42] <subcool> freaking win8
[08:42] <Busserl> well windows could connect fine from command line, but the Windows File explorer had issues with name resolution or something.
[08:43] <Busserl> If windows can't even see the shares, that is a different matter.
[08:43] <Busserl> that should work first
[08:44] <subcool> the win computer sees itsself
[08:44] <subcool> but thats it
[08:44] <subcool> so i know its firewall
[08:44] <subcool> but-- ugh
[08:44] <subcool> Ok.. so -- your kinda right
[08:44] <subcool> whats a actual good firewall for windows
[08:44] <subcool> im thinking too closed minded
[08:45] <Busserl> if windows thinks its network is something different than "private" it won't allow such connections by default, yes. Does it say "private" in network connections?
[08:45] <Busserl> You could change the firewall, or "fix" the network
[08:46] <subcool> idk what it says anymore
[08:46] <subcool> honestly
[08:46] <Busserl> Windows has its own needs for a network to be trusted. A gateway must be specified for example, its hard to find info about.
[08:46] <subcool> there is public, local and ... something
[08:47] <subcool> im really pushign to never use it agian
[08:47] <subcool> i need to find a job that allows that
[08:51] <Amaze-balls> Good Morning
[08:52] <subcool> never
[08:52] <subcool> you must answer the entry question.. .. whats the best windows firewall program.
[08:54] <linux> wo qu
[08:54] <cfhowlett> subcool ask ##windows.  this ain't it.
[08:55] <subcool> cfhowlett, i have
[08:55] <subcool> its windows-- whats ever helpful or smart about windows
[08:55] <linux> sha zi
[08:56] <k1l> !cn | linux
[08:56] <cfhowlett> subcool windows  support is off topic in this channel.  You know that.  Ask your ubuntu support questions or find windows support elsewhere.  win is NOT supported her.
[08:56] <subcool> thats not funny
[08:57] <cfhowlett> Amaze-balls greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions
[08:57] <linux> gfdhfdgh
[08:57] <subcool> im trying to ask smart people a question...
[08:57] <subcool> ive asked the alternative the same question... we all knw where that gets us
[08:57] <linux_ln> ,,,
[08:58] <subcool> its not like anyone is talking anyways
[08:58] <Amaze-balls> Hi, cfhowlett , I'm here to pay attention and to learn from your questions really :)
[08:58] <cfhowlett> !ot|subcool
[08:58] <subcool> seriously?
[08:58] <cfhowlett> !manual | maze-balls welcome.  that's one way to learn ubuntu.
[08:58] <ikonia> subcool: seriously
[08:58] <ikonia> subcool: so stop it now please.
[08:59] <Amaze-balls> I'm learning for my LPIC exams, so tech supporting others will help me familiarize with random parts of the ubuntu system. Plus I like to help others :)
[08:59] <cfhowlett> Amaze-balls http://www.linuxine.com/linuxbooks
[09:00] <subcool> ikonia, un-called for.
[09:00] <dan2003> any idea why a trusty minbase debootstrap would hang somewhere in boot process, before it starts networking and before it shows a console, with no visible info as to why on screen, even in recovery mode?
[09:00] <ikonia> subcool: enough
[09:00] <Amaze-balls> cfhowlett: Thats a pretty cool site. Thanks for that :) untill now Im still going through the IBM documentation, but they dont have any docs on the 102 exams though
[09:01] <cfhowlett> Amaze-balls one way to learn: make a virtual machine in virtualbox, install ubuntu 32 bit to that box, then proceed to break and fix it.  Have fun.
[09:02] <Vivekananda_y510> my windows 8 workgroup is WORKGROUP and tried to join it using this http://www.ubuntututorials.com/ubuntu-12-04-join-windows-workgroup/.  still dont see my computer on workgroup.
[09:03] <Amaze-balls> My focus at the moment is vi, sed, grep, tr, join, cut, paste and all the text streaming and fitlering tools. They are kind of a headache. But Im getting there.
[09:06] <hnlin> j #ubuntu
[09:07] <cfhowlett> hnlin you're in #ubuntu.   ask your questions
[09:19] <Rohan_m> hi
[09:19] <krejsi> Hi, I just installed ubuntu 14.04 64 bit on a server and now Im getting this when it tries to boot. "error: attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0' . Entering rescue mode... grub rescue> "
[09:20] <krejsi> the server has 4x 4TB harddrives configured into one virtual drive RAID 10
[09:20] <Rohan_m> I my trying to write a file with  PHP file but it says "permission denied"
[09:21] <Busserl> Rohan_m: that looks like an issue with php.ini.
[09:21] <ikonia> it's simple file system permissions
[09:21] <subcool> i would like to re-itterate my reasoning for asking this channel my question compared to those who dont sanctify security.
[09:21] <Busserl> I thought you'd have to specify directory permissions in php.ini as well.
[09:22] <Rohan_m> Busserl: why cause it writes file succesfully when i try to write in same directory
[09:22] <ikonia> Rohan_m: what EXACTLY are you doing
[09:23] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i was tryin to create a file in home directory of a user but i'm unable to do so
[09:23] <Busserl> I'll just add that I was talking about the paramater 'open_basedir =...' in php.ini.
[09:23] <ikonia> Rohan_m: what EXACTLY are you doing
[09:24] <Rohan_m> ikonia: what do you mean by exactly ?
[09:24] <ikonia> Rohan_m: I mean tell me EXACTLY what you are doing
[09:25] <Rohan_m> ikonia: oh its nothing i'm just experimenting php's fopen() function
[09:25] <ikonia> you can't ask for help - be told "tell me exactly" and then say "oh it's nothing
[09:26] <ikonia> Rohan_m: if you want help - you need to give people details,
[09:29] <Rohan_m> ikonia: Ok Here's the Exact Details of My problem I have a PC with Ubuntu , i have LAMP installed, in my /var/www/ i have a php file named "this.php" (Group:raj Owner :raj)   my php code wants to append some data to a file in raj's home directory file name "log.txt" (Group:raj Owner:raj) i am working on a error logging function() which creates logs and i have a analysis system made in C which will give graphical analysis on data based from log.txt
[09:30] <ikonia> Rohan_m: so where does the PHP come into it
[09:31] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i pass data from the web ---> to my PHP file ----> PHP appends new data to log.txt ----> C programme rus as deamon and keep track of log.txt
[09:31] <ikonia> Rohan_m: so you're php is being run from within a web server
[09:32] <somsip> Rohan_m: PHP will run under user www-data which may not have write access to a file in a user's home
[09:32] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i change the ownership and group of PHP file to Raj
[09:32] <ikonia> Rohan_m: that means nothing
[09:32] <ikonia> Rohan_m: try to answer the question I asked
[09:32] <ikonia> Rohan_m: so you're php is being run from within a web server
[09:32] <Rohan_m> ikonia: yeah
[09:33] <ikonia> Rohan_m: so the user that runs the webserver will need access, which by default it will not (and should not) have access to peoples home directories
[09:34] <Rohan_m> ikonia: that's not a problem cause data is being sent in a encrypted manner  imean no normal person can not pass data to this PHP file
[09:34] <ikonia> that is a problem
[09:35] <Rohan_m> ikonia: so there is no way of writing file in home directory via a php file ?
[09:35] <ikonia> Rohan_m: I didn't say that
[09:36] <Rohan_m> ikonia: should i show the ls -la of both php and log.txt
[09:36] <ikonia> Rohan_m: I said by default this is not configured, and should not be configured
[09:36] <lataupe> Bonjour a tous, ici lataupe de suisse!
[09:37] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i dont get it cause when i "ls -la" my /www/ directory there is no user like "www-data"
[09:37] <bcvery> !fr | lataupe
[09:38] <ikonia> Rohan_m: what is the name of the user that runs the web server
[09:38] <lataupe> ah merci beaucoup!
[09:38] <lataupe> dsl!
[09:41] <Rohan_m> ikonia: root
[09:41] <ikonia> Rohan_m: no, it's not
[09:41] <ikonia> Rohan_m: is this a default ubuntu install ?
[09:42] <Rohan_m> ikonia: how do i check it
[09:42] <ikonia> Rohan_m: is this a default ubuntu install ?
[09:42] <Rohan_m> ikonia: yes
[09:42] <ikonia> Rohan_m: then the user is not root
[09:42] <Rohan_m> ikonia: how do i check the user
[09:43] <ikonia> look at the name of the user running the process
[09:46] <Rohan_m> ikonia: apache2 is owned and being used by root
[09:46] <ikonia> no, it's not
[09:46] <ikonia> or certainly shouldn't be on a default ubuntu install
[09:46] <bala> hello
[09:46] <bala> any one there? Need a bit of help with screen resolutions
[09:47] <ikonia> Rohan_m: pastebin the output of "ps -ef | grep apache"
[09:47] <bala> hi ikonia
[09:47] <odla> hi, i am trying to decide btwn chromium and chrome. i'd prefer to use chromium as it's open-source but it looks like it's at 34 and chrome is at 36. does chromium get updated on trusty or will it stay at 34?
[09:47] <bala> I am using xubuntu and I installed Gnome 3.10.4
[09:47] <bala> from the software centre
[09:47] <ikonia> odla: you are unlikley to see updates
[09:47] <bala> issue is gnome keeps forgetting my resolution and it gets reset at every reboot
[09:48] <odla> ikonia: ok, so it's either firefox or install chrome if i want to keep my browser up to date
[09:48] <bala> ikonia?
[09:48] <Rohan_m> ikonia: http://www.codejaw.com/8tjuti
[09:48] <Guest94253> Hi. I've just went through boot.log and it is spiked with 'CRLF, CR line terminators'. Can someone explain why is that so?
[09:48] <bala> odla get chrome thats what I use. Mainly because its prebundled with a flaash player
[09:49] <ikonia> Rohan_m: come on !
[09:49] <ikonia> Rohan_m: look at it "www-data" is the user
[09:49] <Rohan_m> ikonia: is made a ps -u root and apache was there
[09:49] <ikonia> Rohan_m: why did you do that ?
[09:49] <bala> ikonia--
[09:50] <ikonia> Rohan_m: I didn't ask you to run ps -u to check for root user processs, I asked you "which user is apache being run as"
[09:50] <Rohan_m> ikonia: maybe that's all what i know i'm noob
[09:50] <ikonia> Rohan_m: ps -u only shows root users
[09:50] <ikonia> Rohan_m: so "I don't know how to" is the response you give, not wrong information
[09:51] <Rohan_m> ikonia: :) now what should i do ?
[09:51] <sarkie> hi quick question, if I want the latest and greatest nvidia drivers, what's the correct way to install it? As it seems you have to specify what version you want to install. And nvidia-current seems pretty old. Thanks.
[09:51] <theadmin> sarkie: It's strongly advised against updating past versions in repositories
[09:51] <ikonia> Rohan_m: so you know now that the user executing the php script is "www-data" - hence why you correctly get "permission denied"
[09:51] <theadmin> sarkie: Just stick to current unless it's broken
[09:52] <sarkie> theadmin: fair enough, "Restricted Drivers" route?
[09:52] <theadmin> sarkie: Yeah basically, install from there and stick to them
[09:52] <sarkie> theadmin: ty,
[09:52] <Rohan_m> ikonia: so i must change the group of file log.txt to www-data or what should i do ?
[09:53] <ikonia> Rohan_m: no, I very very strongly advise you not to mess with this - more so when you appear to not understand it at all
[09:53] <ikonia> Rohan_m: don't write to a users home directory
[09:53] <ikonia> Rohan_m: it's their private space, the web server should not have access to it
[09:54] <Sverdar> wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:55] <bala> theadmin hi
[09:55] <bala> I need help
[09:55] <bala> No one seems to be responding
[09:56] <theadmin> bala: What's your issue?
[09:57] <Rohan_m> ikonia: :( its my personal computer so there is no point of messing with others data
[09:57] <ikonia> Rohan_m: so ?
[09:57] <ikonia> Rohan_m: the concept is still the same, the web server should not be writing to peoples home directories
[09:59] <Tux_> sup
[10:00] <llutz> Rohan_m: just put your logfile somewhere else, with proper rights/permission and let your c-prog analyse it from there
[10:01] <Rohan_m> llutz: hmm maybe you are right
[10:02] <braveleg> Hi, folks. I got a problem with my laptop (lenovo g510), which has two graphic cards on board, first one is integrated intel and the second one - amd radeon r7 m265. The problem is that my system doesn't detect that second card of mine, lspci -v only lists integrated card. As a consequence - I can't install amd drivers. Does anyone have same experience or have a clue what can I do with that? Thanks in advance.
[10:04] <Frantic> Guys, I have a new dell t5610 machine on which I've installed ubuntu. I have trouble with the sound, the sound quality is extremely bad (sound is tinny, maybe like a very low bitrate). Dell's spec says the machine has ALC269Q chipset, ubuntu 14.04 says it's ALC280. After upgrading to the daily alsa DKSM, it now says it's ALC3220. Any idea how I would debug this?
[10:04] <Frantic> my alsa-info.sh output is here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=db6206566479b8df476cec776fac5e624e31fd84
[10:06] <bala> theadmin: I installed Gnome 3 on Xubuntu, and then changed the resolution to 1024*768 but gnome keeps forgetting at every reboot
[10:07] <theadmin> bala: What's your issue?
[10:07] <theadmin> Oops
[10:07] <theadmin> Bloody up arrow
[10:07] <theadmin> bala: I have no idea, sorry
[10:07] <crb> есть русские
[10:07] <k1l> !ru | crb
[10:07] <theadmin> crb: #ubuntu-ru
[10:09] <crb> Where rus?
[10:09] <bala> thanks
[10:09] <theadmin> crb: Наберите /join #ubuntu-ru в строке сообщений
[10:09] <braveleg> crb: type "/join #ubuntu-ru" and you will be switched to russin channel
[10:10] <braveleg> crb: *russian
[10:17] <AlecTaylor> Where's the dev channel for ubuntu? - Specifically package maintainers?
[10:17] <ikonia> depends on the package
[10:18] <AlecTaylor> nginx
[10:18] <ikonia> what repo is that in ?
[10:18] <AlecTaylor> Want to know why that, and so many other packages are out of date
[10:18] <theadmin> !info nginx
[10:18] <AlecTaylor> On packages.ubuntu
[10:18] <ikonia> so it's in main
[10:18] <AlecTaylor> Yeah
[10:19] <ikonia> AlecTaylor: it's the version that is taken from upstream debian as stable
[10:19] <AlecTaylor> ikonia: Tempted to maintain the components I have on my stack in main
[10:19] <k1l> AlecTaylor: which ubuntu are you on?
[10:19] <AlecTaylor> Ah, so I go on debian-maintainers then?
[10:19] <AlecTaylor> trusty x64
[10:19] <ikonia> AlecTaylor: what ?
[10:19] <AlecTaylor> ikonia: You said it's taken from upstream debian. So I just need to join their channel, right?
[10:19] <k1l> the version is the version that was in debian before the ubuntu release freeze
[10:19] <AlecTaylor> (and ask their)
[10:20] <ikonia> AlecTaylor: what is your end goal ?
[10:20] <AlecTaylor> k1l: Release freeze?
[10:20] <AlecTaylor> ikonia: To get the latest versions into stable
[10:20] <k1l> AlecTaylor: i think you dont got the release idea from ubuntu ( and debian)
[10:20] <ikonia> AlecTaylor: ok, so that's not going to happen in this release.
[10:20] <AlecTaylor> So I can stop using PPAs
[10:20] <ikonia> AlecTaylor: if you want the package version changed in debian, log a bug against it explaining why it needs to change
[10:20] <ikonia> AlecTaylor: then follow up with that individual package maintainer/group
[10:21] <sogatori> Hello everyone. The application idndicators/status notifiers standard says that indicators with the "passive" property should/can be hidden. Is there any way in unity to interact with hidden indicators?
[10:21] <k1l> AlecTaylor: that will never happen. its due to the release setup. you may want a rolling release distro if you want bleeding edge all the time
[10:21] <AlecTaylor> Can't I just start maintaining it then submit it for review?
[10:21] <theadmin> AlecTaylor: Ubuntu freezes software at a specific version so that stuff doesn't change around randomly
[10:21] <ikonia> AlecTaylor: that would not go into main
[10:21] <AlecTaylor> Well that sucks
[10:21] <theadmin> AlecTaylor: New major versions are only in new releases
[10:22] <k1l> AlecTaylor: there are just a few exceptions that are renewed after the ubuntu version is released. most packages stay at that version number, but get security and heavy bug fix patches
[10:22] <k1l> ...
[10:23] <santhosh_> but in latest version updation (firefox ) getting black address bar
[10:23] <santhosh_> in ubuntu
[10:23] <theadmin> santhosh_: Some software is exempt from freeze, browsers is one such category
[10:23] <theadmin> If that's what you're talking about
[10:24] <Ben64> i think its a question
[10:24] <bala> any gnome3 users here?
[10:24] <Ben64> bala: ask your real question to achieve results
[10:24] <santhosh_> the kernel version is differenrt sponmme application not working in 1.13 version
[10:25] <santhosh_> sorry 3.13
[10:25] <santhosh_>  <bala> yes iam working on gnome
[10:26] <Ben64> santhosh_: can you take a little bit more time and describe what problem or problems you'd like to solve? the firefox issue? something else?
[10:27] <santhosh_> present my company working wine application in ubuntu it is working kernel version 3.5 but it is not working kernel 3.13
[10:27] <santhosh_> and graphicks ia also heavy
[10:27] <Ben64> santhosh_: ok, for wine support you should ask in #winehq
[10:27] <santhosh_> it is not running is 1 gb ram
[10:28] <ios-7-mel> on ubuntu
[10:28] <santhosh_> it is having heavy graphics it is very slow on 1 gb ram
[10:29] <ios-7-mel> how to attach my samsung s3 mini on ubuntu
[10:29] <ios-7-mel> plz help
[10:31] <gurdeep> how to attach my samsung s3 mini on ubuntu
[10:31] <gurdeep>  plz help
[10:31] <gurdeep> how to attach my samsung s3 mini on ubuntu
[10:31] <gurdeep>  plz help
[10:32] <k1l> gurdeep: if you get annoying the people will not help you. stay calm and describe your issue with more details
[10:32] <gurdeep> im sry
[10:33] <theadmin> gurdeep: Set it to MTP mode, then it will show up in the file manager
[10:33] <gurdeep> i want to know how i can connect my phone with my pc
[10:33] <theadmin> gurdeep: USB cable?
[10:33] <gurdeep> yes
[10:34] <gurdeep> i conected with data cable but not showing on my pc
[10:34] <k1l> gurdeep: where is your problem with sticking the usb cable in it?
[10:34] <k1l> choose mtp mode on that smartphone. which ubuntu are you on exactly?
[10:36] <svetlana> xlock command not found ... what package provides it ?
[10:36] <theadmin> !find /usr/bin/xlock
[10:36] <theadmin> Huh.
[10:36] <k1l> !find xlock
[10:36] <gurdeep> i install mtp tools as well through the terminal
[10:37] <Ben64> for me (12.04) it's in   xlockmore and xlockmore-gl
[10:37] <theadmin> gurdeep: Which Ubuntu version?
[10:37] <svetlana> mmm
[10:37] <theadmin> svetlana: xlockmore as Ben64 says
[10:37] <Ben64> doesn't appear to be in 14.04
[10:38] <svetlana> you are correct; I am on 14.04
[10:38] <k1l> gurdeep: dont you want to answer the questions to help you?
[10:38] <gurdeep> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[10:38] <k1l> gurdeep: that has no mtp support so you need to install mtp support first.
[10:38] <gurdeep> WHICH ONE ?
[10:39] <Vivekananda> can someone help me enable samba share and get it working
[10:40] <k1l> gurdeep: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/320367/unable-to-connect-galaxy-nexus-to-ubuntu-12-04-through-gmtp
[10:40] <Vivekananda> trying to connect to a win 8 shared folder using samba on 12.04 ubuntu. I can see the computer under workgroup but dont see any files inside on the windows computer
[10:42] <gurdeep> okey thanks for the help :)
[10:42] <svetlana> OK, let me put it this way ... I have gdm installed but not gnome-screensaver. How do I lock screen from commandline?
[10:43] <Vivekananda> svetlana: tried windows L or windows P key ?
[10:44] <Vivekananda> sorry try ctrl alt  L
[10:44] <bala> hello
[10:44] <bala> anyone using Gnome3 here?
[10:44] <bala> Having screen resolution issues with it
[10:45] <ikonia> svetlana: win+l but that won't trigger the screen saver just the lock screen
[10:46] <theadmin> ikonia: Isn't that a Windows shortcut? It's been Ctrl-Alt-L at least until 13.10
[10:46] <ikonia> ctrl+l works here
[10:46] <ikonia> sorry
[10:46] <ikonia> win+l
[10:46] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i there any way of pasting content of /path1/file to /path2/file2
[10:46] <theadmin> Rohan_m: cat /path/file | tee -a /path/file2
[10:47] <ikonia> Rohan_m: cat /path1/file >> /path2/file2
[10:47] <Vivekananda> anyone care to help me samba sharing issues. not seeing shared folder of win 8 on ubuntu 12.04
[10:48] <Rohan_m> ikonia: thnaks worked like charm
[10:48] <Rohan_m> theadmin: thanks fella worked like charm
[10:50] <Vivekananda> no worries got it .
[10:55] <neo1691> I am using openjdk-7 and I am getting a lot of these errors javax.sound.sampled.LineUnavailableException
[10:55] <neo1691> at org.classpath.icedtea.pulseaudio.PulseAudioMixer.openImpl
[10:55] <neo1691> Now I had to remove pulseaudio because espeak was not working without pulseaudio! And I am needing both for a particular project
[10:56] <neo1691> So basically how can I ask openjdk-7 to use alsa instead of pulseaudio
[10:59] <martinrame> hi, can anyone point me to a description of the "network" param of /etc/network/interfaces ?
[11:05] <soahccc> Can I install ubuntu server via a VM onto a USB and then boot it from another machine? I'm almost certain that it'll work but I've never done this and maybe I shouldn't?
[11:06] <metaspike> neo1691, when you do you get such errors, are you developing? running a program?
[11:06] <maxvi> what is Mod1 key?
[11:06] <alireza> Any body Here?
[11:06] <alireza> :D
[11:07] <metaspike> for a few minutes yep
[11:07] <Guest94253> What are 'CRLF, CR line terminators' doing in /var/log/boot.log?
[11:07] <lobxop> Any one experienced with auto login in tty?
[11:07] <faLUCE> hello. Can I install ubuntu touch (or any linux distro) on a Archos Xenon tablet (8'') ?  (I asked the same question on #ubuntu-touch) but nobody never answers
[11:08] <lobxop> think you have to root that first
[11:09] <lobxop> http://www.androidcentral.com/root look if it is supported
[11:09] <metaspike> lobxop, the cleanest way to do that is boot into 'single user mode', like... just use a user runlevel, i wouldn't think autologin was a good idea
[11:09] <metaspike> use a lower runlevel
[11:09] <lobxop> the problem is i want a home server to reboot every night
[11:09] <lobxop> and i have configured it to do so
[11:09] <lobxop> however
[11:09] <ghosTM55> Hi all
[11:09] <lobxop> i dont quite understand what i have done
[11:10] <lobxop> i start this as service
[11:10] <lobxop> ExecStart=-/usr/bin/agetty --autologin username --noclear %I 38400 linux
[11:10] <metaspike> why??
[11:10] <lobxop> i dont get why i need '-' in front of abs path or ' --noclear %I 38400 '
[11:10] <maxvi> what key is Mod1 in ubuntu 12.04?
[11:11] <lobxop> agetty page is not very helpful though
[11:11] <k1l> maxvi: which desktop?
[11:12] <k1l> maxvi: right alt key should do it
[11:13] <maxvi> k1l: unity
[11:14] <k1l> !away > zz_chamunks
[11:16] <jnhghy> I'm trying to create a symbolic link to a folder I cd to the folder location then I did ln -s folder ../../folder but I only get a !folder file that is red and which I can't open what am I doing wrong?
[11:18] <chrissg> jhnghy: Any special chars in there? Spaces?
[11:18] <ArunC> Hi all, I am trying to add the kubuntu-ppa/next repository on my Ubuntu 14.04. But I get an error saying PPA not found
[11:18] <bzfgrewe> \leave #ubuntu
[11:18] <ArunC> Any idea what might be wrong?
[11:19] <jnhghy> chrissg: the folder is "3GP" no spaces
[11:19] <bzfgrewe> \LEAVE #ubuntu
[11:19] <viscera> bzfgrewe: /part #ubuntu
[11:19] <k1l> bzfgrewe: / instead of \
[11:19] <chrissg> *sigh* :)
[11:19] <chrissg> @bzfgrewe: do a "ls -lhad ../../folder" from the folder your'e ln'ing out
[11:21] <jnhghy> chrissg: is ^ for me?
[11:28] <Guest94253> I am starting tor service as a root, however in ps output it is under 'debian-+' user. What? Why?
[11:29] <metaspike> im off to throw random things into /dev/fb0 ! syas
[11:37] <Psi-Jack> Guest94253: Have you ever thought to get a non-Guest nick?
[11:41] <Guest94253> Psi-Jack, this is the best reply I've got. This community is wonderfully useless. No I haven't.
[11:44] <chrissg> @jnhghy: Yeah, sorry :) Im at work... :) Do that
[11:45] <jnhghy> chrissg: no problem, result of ls -lahd 3GP is : drwxr-xr-x 21 jalexandru jalexandru 4.0K Jul 22 13:26 3GP
[11:46] <chrissg> aaand a "ls -lhad (linkname)"
[11:47] <jnhghy> chrissg: I do that after I do ln -s 3GP ../../3GP ?
[11:49] <KeyboardNotFound> What's the diffrence between iw and iwconfig?
[11:49] <chrissg> rather do a complete path, not a relative one, ie "ln -s /home/someone/3GP ."
[11:49] <jnhghy> chrissg: found a solution ... thanks ... I've cd to the place where I want to add the symlink and from there I've did ln -s ../path/to/source/3GP 3GP and it worked
[11:49] <chrissg> I find relative path links the source of evil.
[11:49] <chrissg> See? Evil :)
[11:49] <jnhghy> chrissg: yap, you are right ...
[11:50] <jnhghy> :)
[11:50] <chrissg> Youre welcome.
[11:54] <lobxop> ExecStart=-/usr/bin/agetty --autologin username --noclear %I 38400 linux; Can any one tell me what does '-' in front of tpath and --noclear %I 38400  mean?
[11:55] <Hounddog> Having an annoying issue. When i step away from my system and after few minutes it goes to sleep the monitors go and stay black. I then manually switch off the monitors. Turn them back on and it start showing something again on 2 monitors... I have 3. I then have to suspend the system and resume it again then all monitors show but any Overlay window looks scrambled then
[11:57] <Hounddog> actually just seeing that any window is having like another window behind it which is scrambled
[11:57] <krejsi> quick question, can I remove my ubuntu live usb from my computer after i have booted?
[11:57] <lobxop> why not lol
[11:58] <chrissg> @krejsi: Not if you booted FROM the usb media :)
[11:58] <krejsi> chrissg: thats what i mean :p
[11:58] <lobxop> if you have installed,thath is
[11:58] <krejsi> not installed
[11:58] <chrissg> Well, if you pull the floor youre standing on from under your feet away... :)
[11:59] <lobxop> ^
[11:59] <chrissg> It's a *live* boot media, so it's needed. Unless you installed.
[11:59] <krejsi> dunno i thought it was all loaded into RAM or something
[11:59] <chrissg> @krejsi: Caching? Nope.
[12:00] <chrissg> @Hounddog: Umm. Had the same issue back in '12. Fixed by removing one monitor :). If you get a solution, do tell me.
[12:00] <Hounddog> chrissg: hmmm
[12:01] <Hounddog> chrissg: its just annoying.. if i suspend it manually before i go and come back its ok
[12:01] <chrissg> Try the same with only 2 monitors, see if that does not show these symptoms.
[12:01] <Hounddog> chrissg: https://www.dropbox.com/s/otw50pgxlf46kkc/Screenshot%20from%202014-07-22%2013%3A58%3A46.png
[12:01] <Hounddog> you had this effect then also?
[12:01] <Hounddog> in the middle screen
[12:02] <chrissg> Not this one exactly, but other "fun" features with 3+ Monitors.
[12:02] <Hounddog> hehe
[12:03] <Hounddog> Also wondering if it might be some programm as it was working in the beginning but i have no idea where to start searching on this hmm
[12:04] <Hounddog> Well thx anyway, thought maybee someone experienced this and had a solution :)
[12:05] <chrissg> Experienced, yes, solution... not so much :)
[12:06] <arcanus> hello im going to install a ubuntu server soon and i wonder where i do the encrption of the whole harddrive installation, ist under installation or after ?
[12:06] <chrissg> During partitioning.
[12:08] <arcanus> chrissg: thx
[12:09] <Hounddog> chrissg: have you changed anything to your screensaver?
[12:09] <Hounddog> chrissg: or powersaving?
[12:09] <marto1> Hi all, ubuntu 14.04 3.13.0-32-generic 32 bit; 855GM VGA - "# modprobe i915" fails with "could not insert 'i915': No such device". Any ideas, thanks?
[12:10] <chrissg> @Hounddog: lemme check.
[12:10] <bipul> Any Documents, guide for configuring Tomcat logs to logstash? please, I am looking for a help.
[12:10] <Hounddog> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=957678 just asking cause i think this could be my issue as i have a programm chaging my desktop backgroun d imaes every few minutes
[12:12] <chrissg> @Hounddog: didnt change anything, except for "lock screen on screensaver" and "do nothing" on all the events.
[12:14] <Hounddog> chrissg: well, just might be something... i am just checking into it... if i could remember the name of the program i installed lol
[12:16] <faLUCE> hello. Can I install ubuntu touch (or any linux distro) on a Archos Xenon tablet (8'') ?  (I asked the same question on #ubuntu-touch) but nobody never answers
[12:17] <acovrig> I am following http://xmodulo.com/2014/01/install-configure-kvm-open-vswitch-ubuntu-debian.html and am wondering about eth5 mentioned in the guide, what interface should that be? (WAN,LAN,some random interface w/nothing plugged in)?
[12:18] <ajnr> Hi I am unable to read the symbol in ubuntu but it is working in mac, actually this was a code of fragment in java.http://fpaste.org/119776/60314891/ please help me out
[12:18] <acovrig> I tried my LAN interface, and then couldn't access my system over SSH (as if I ifdown'd the iface)...
[12:18] <chrissg> @falUCE: Maybe no one has such a device and thus, does not know. (Nor do I). Just try?
[12:19] <faLUCE> chrissg: how can I try it before buying?
[12:20] <chrissg> Oh, sorry. Thought you had it already :)
[12:21] <olegfusion> Hello! May anybody help? I have ubuntu server 13.10, apache is 2.4.6 now
[12:21] <olegfusion> May anybody help how downgrade it to 2.2.22?
[12:22] <k1l> olegfusion: 13.10 lost support last week. so first make a plan to upgrade to 14.04 anyway
[12:23] <philinux> faLUCE;~ I reckon you need to check in at the  xda-developers website
[12:23] <olegfusion> that's the problem..
[12:24] <faLUCE> philinux: k1l do you mean that ubuntu touch can work on this tablet without problems (or with few problems) even if it is not listed on the wiki page?
[12:25] <k1l> faLUCE: this is still not the ubuntu touch channel. you were already given answers in the correct channel
[12:25] <faLUCE> k1l: sorry
[12:27] <marianne_> Hi, I'm currently on 12.04.. is there any way to use the update manager to get to 14.04 without having to go through the 13s?
[12:28] <olegfusion> k11: will it be possible if I'll upgrade to 14.04?
[12:28] <olegfusion> downgrading to apache2.2
[12:29] <philinux> marianne_;~ you'll be auto offered the upgrade when 14.04.1 comes out
[12:30] <kostkon> marianne_, you will be notified in a few days time to do just that, upgrade to 14.04.1, when 14.04.1 comes out... in a few days
[12:32] <philinux> marianne_;~ the 14.04.1 isos are being tested this week
[12:35] <marianne_> Thanks guys... guess I'm just a little impatient :-)
[12:37] <philinux> marianne_;~ you can observe one aspect of the testing here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2235060
[12:39] <marianne_> philinux: thank you very much
[12:42] <arcanus> im trying to set an ipv6 address on my interface eth0 but it doesnt work can anyone see any error in my /etc/network/interfaces config: http://pastebin.com/ucimxWeW
[12:45] <asko> good day all
[12:47] <asko> need help i just installed ubuntu 14.0.4 but my webcam doesn't work
[12:47] <george1> why does linux never hangs?
[12:47] <olegfusion> may anybody help, do-release-upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04: I get this: [12:47] <olegfusion> [12:48] <asko> pls help my webcam doesn't help
[12:49] <chrissg> @asko: Maybe its plainly not supported?
[12:49] <asko> @chrissg this is what i get ** Message: cheese-application.vala:291: Error during camera setup: No device found
[12:49] <asko> (cheese:12201): cheese-CRITICAL **: cheese_camera_device_get_device_node: assertion 'CHEESE_IS_CAMERA_DEVICE (device)' failed
[12:49] <asko> (cheese:12201): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_variant_new_string: assertion 'string != NULL' failed
[12:49] <asko> (cheese:12201): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_settings_schema_key_type_check: assertion 'value != NULL' failed
[12:49] <asko> (cheese:12201): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_variant_get_type_string: assertion 'value != NULL' failed
[12:49] <asko> (cheese:12201): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_settings_set_value: key 'camera' in 'org.gnome.Cheese' expects type 's', but a GVariant of type '(null)' was given
[12:50] <asko> ** (cheese:12201): CRITICAL **: cheese_preferences_dialog_setup_resolutions_for_device: assertion 'device != NULL' failed
[12:50] <k1l> !paste | asko
[12:51] <chrissg> subtle, k1l :)
[12:51] <asko> okay thanks
[12:51] <philinux> asko;~ what webcam, make and model?
[12:52] <asko> my laptop is HP probook 4510s
[12:53] <asko> @ubottu  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7835956/
[12:54] <asko> @philinux i'm pretty new to ubuntu
[12:57] <asko> helloo pleasss heeelllppp
[12:58] <asko> philinux...!!
[12:59] <philinux> asko;~ just been poking around on hp website, there doesnt seem to be a webcam driver for linux
[12:59] <asko> awww...
[12:59] <ObrienDave> builtin or external?
[13:00] <asko> @philinux but linux mint gave me a driver
[13:01] <asko> @philinux i used skype with mint
[13:01] <alpy> is normal ghc --make command does not produce a executable?
[13:01] <philinux> asko;~ you mean a graphics driver?
[13:01] <asko> philinux; webcam
[13:02] <philinux> asko;~ normally webcam drivers are built into the kernel
[13:03] <asko> so i have to install a kernel that will enable my webcam philinux?
[13:04] <philinux> asko;~  no it nshould just work
[13:04] <asko> philinux; so my kernel is broken?
[13:04] <philinux> no
[13:05] <DreamPCs> Hey guys, quick question (hopefully).
[13:05] <asko> philinux;~ so y is my webcam not working/
[13:05] <DreamPCs> How do I create a live usb and still be able to use the remaining space in a typical flash drive fashion?
[13:06] <DreamPCs> I tried searching but couldn't find anything. I then partitioned the flash drive (1 GB for Linux and 3 for normal storage) but when writing the ISO to the first partition the flash drive won't boot
[13:06] <asko> dreamPcs;~ i installed universal-usb-installer -<IP_ADDRESS>.exe on windows
[13:06] <asko> DreamPcs;~ that gave me the option but on windows platform
[13:06] <DreamPCs> ask Does that allow booting from the drive and also allow sticking into a Windows computer for normal file storage?
[13:07] <olegfusion> 2014-07-22 17:04:34,421 INFO apt version: '<IP_ADDRESS>~ubuntu1'
[13:07] <olegfusion> 2014-07-22 17:04:34,421 INFO release-upgrader version '0.220.2' started
[13:07] <olegfusion> 2014-07-22 17:04:34,441 DEBUG screen returned: 'No Sockets found in /var/run/screen/S-root.
[13:07] <olegfusion> '
[13:07] <olegfusion> 2014-07-22 17:04:34,441 INFO re-exec inside screen: '['screen', '-e', '\\0\\0', '-L', '-c', 'screenrc', '-S', 'ubuntu-release-upgrade-screen-window', '/tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-r_yjnr/trusty', '--mode=server$
[13:07] <DreamPCs> Ok cool, I guess I'll boot Windows and do it from there
[13:07] <asko> DreamPCs;~yeb it worked for me
[13:07] <olegfusion> this is my upgrade log from 13.30 to 14.04
[13:07] <DreamPCs> olegfusion please don't paste into this window
[13:07] <philinux> asko;~ has webcam worked before
[13:07] <DreamPCs> Use something like pastebin instead.
[13:07] <olegfusion> ok
[13:07] <daftykins> !pastebin olegfusion
[13:07] <daftykins> ugh
[13:07] <daftykins> !paste
[13:07] <asko> philinux;~ yes when i use mint
[13:08] <loa> i can't get why ubuntu 14.04 renames for example eth0 to p2p1?
[13:08] <loa> for what this done?
[13:08] <asko> philinux;~ now i'm using ubuntu 14.0.4
[13:08] <olegfusion> http://pastebin.com/eDX0hW1A
[13:08] <daftykins> loa: it's not ubuntu, it's what some kernel drivers have moved to doing, it doesn't affect functionality.
[13:08] <olegfusion> loa: I have p2p1 already in 13.10
[13:08] <dino82> loa:  Look up the parameter 'biosdevname'
[13:09] <loa> for what this done?
[13:09] <olegfusion> http://pastebin.com/eDX0hW1A possible to solve? I get it in do-release-upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04
[13:09] <daftykins> loa: that is not a grammatically correct sentence, so no answer can be given.
[13:09] <loa> what purpose of this?
[13:09] <dino82> http://linux.die.net/man/1/biosdevname
[13:09] <daftykins> just accept it.
[13:09] <loa> and use it in my configs?
[13:10] <asko> my webcam is still not working bros
[13:10] <loa> i see that renaming actually did udev
[13:11] <loa> Biosdevname is a udev helper utility developed by Dell and released under the GNU General Public License (GPL). It provides a consistent naming mechanism for network devices based on their physical location as suggested by the system BIOS
[13:11] <loa> ok
[13:11] <loa> so i can name my device for example lan and wan right?
[13:11] <loa> devices *
[13:12] <dino82> You can do that with the 'ip' command
[13:12] <olegfusion> also, I am not sure but I get a lot of errors on updating like: Error http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe Translation-ru_RU
[13:13] <dino82> biosdevname simply takes whatever vendor-supplied interface name (p1p1 for instance) and turns into the linux-friendly but more ambiguous 'ethX' naming scheme
[13:15] <asko> my webcam is not working bros any ideas
[13:17] <pa> what do i have to uninstall to remove the play/pause control from the tray sound menu?
[13:22] <skulltip> with the Cortex ARM A-8, are most games in the ubuntu repository compatible with A-8?
[13:22] <skulltip> including open arena?
[13:23] <daftykins> ubuntu isn't on ARM
[13:23] <daftykins> skulltip: if you're talking about touch, #ubuntu-touch
[13:23] <skulltip> welll some claim to run ubuntu
[13:23] <k1l> ubuntu is on arm
[13:23] <k1l> but better is to ask in #ubuntu-arm for arm specific questions
[13:24] <skulltip> ah thanks k1l
[13:24] <daftykins> k1l: surely not desktop?
[13:24] <k1l> daftykins: of course desktop, too. mst packages from the repos get build for arm too
[13:25] <daftykins> maybe it's only specific ARM versions then, i could've sworn that the official line is that there isn't a build for the r-pi for example?
[13:25] <k1l> daftykins: yes, the rpi got a that old arm layout that is not supported.
[13:26] <DJones> daftykins: CRPI uses ARMv6 while Ubuntu is optimised for ARMv7
[13:26] <k1l> you need at least armv7. the rpi got armv6
[13:28] <daftykins> hmm thanks, there don't appear to be any ISOs however - though granted i wouldn't expect such devices to obtain it in the usual way
[13:31] <skulltip> i'm just wanting to build a cheap surfing and gaming machine for an elderly shut in
[13:31] <marc_> hello guys, can someone tell me how to open up my port in transmission?
[13:31] <skulltip> which doesn't take up alot of space, other than the screen
[13:31] <cfhowlett> !hardware | skulltip
[13:32] <k1l> daftykins: the driver situation is even worse on arm at all. so not having free open source drivers there is no chance for universal isos. most devices have special isos
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> marc_: transmission does have ports to open, you can select a port to use but it doesn't "open' anything
[13:34] <skulltip> ty cfhowlett
[13:35] <marc_> ah, okay... thanks. it's strange. i'm distro hopping quite frequently and usually it works just like that, but sometimes it doesn't
[13:35] <cfhowlett> skulltip somewhat OT but you might also want to peek at the steambox -
[13:36] <cfhowlett> skulltip http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamMachines/
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> marc_: you may need to open a port in iptables if you have configured it, or on your router if it doesnt support upnp
[13:49] <marc_> i just a tried a different torrent file... and now it's working. no clue why, but it does
[13:52] <marc_> thanks though.
[13:52] <iptable> could have been the torrent?
[13:52] <iptable> dead torrent it's called
[13:52] <marc_> seems like it
[13:52] <marc_> ok, i will watch out for those from now on :-D
[13:52] <marc_> zombie torrents
[13:53] <iptable> afaik to use transmission by default you don't have to open any incoming ports. I got none open on my router nor desktop.
[13:54] <iptable> it will download torrents and only share (upload) to people you connect to as peers (upload chunks to people you are downloading chunks from)
[14:01] <zoro> hey
[14:05] <untaken> do I need ibus installed? If I don't really deal with foreign fonts etc? Can it be removed easily, or are there loads of dependencies for it?
[14:15] <philinux> untaken;~ see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7836355/
[14:16] <untaken> philinux: so a lot uses it nowadays
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> iptable: some routers dont spport upnp, so a port for traffic must be forwarded so that data flows
[14:17] <philinux> untaken;~ it says size is 1253kb in synaptic
[14:18] <untaken> philinux: yea, well I don't personally have an issue with it, but I used Xmonad and this latest version of Ubuntu has caused a bug with urxvt and autokey I use. Turns out ibus is the issue, but I don't even start this up .xsession or anything
[14:18] <untaken> s/use/used/
[14:19] <untaken> if I close ibus on the tray, the problem goes and I was just wondering what the hell does it do
[14:19] <philinux> untaken;~ just purge it then - if things dont work out install it again
[14:20] <untaken> ok
[14:20] <untaken> I'll give that a whirl
[14:22] <untaken> philinux: it also removes the unity desktop if I do that, and don't want to take that out. Always good to have a backup desktop manager
[14:22] <philinux> untaken;~ check synaptic it removes the control center too
[14:22] <untaken> think I'll just keep it there and do a: killall ibus-daemon  in .xsession
[14:24] <philinux> untaken;~ see post 3 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218568
[14:24] <ragnarock> hi
[14:24] <untaken> philinux: thanks, will take a look
[14:25] <Gabi> where can i download the latest .iso
[14:26] <ikonia> iso of what ?
[14:26] <bazhang> !torrents | Gabi
[14:27] <xombi> Hey Ubuntu gurus... I was attempting to download XUbuntu and ran into an error: "WARNING:root:file 'quantal.tar.gz.gpg' missing"
[14:27] <ikonia> where did you get this error
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> xombi: do you mean "install" when you say "download"