[00:00] <Thunder_Drop> Dextronaught: try hitting tools add-ons and then go to the plug-in tab... from there see if there are multiple versions of either flash or java enabled... try disabling everything except for the two that you want to use and see if the problem persists
[00:00] <cwheeler> vlt yes you can export objets in files but i don't remeber exactly how
[00:01] <Dextronaught> yeah I got shockwave, disable them all except for flash and Java? ok
[00:02] <vlt> cwheeler: I could simply edit the svg/xml file to refactor the objects. But how to "embbed" the file then?
[00:02] <cwheeler> I've only exported objects which I used in Gimp but I'm sure there's a way to import them
[00:03] <iflema> semitones oooh. it was a slackware app... sorry its name sbootmgr theres an iso it seems also check out super gub disc
[00:03] <cwheeler> I used options on the inkscape menu
[00:03] <Thunder_Drop> Dextronaught: see if the problem still exists when everything is disabled except the two you want to use
[00:07] <Dextronaught> Thunder_Drop, no fix
[00:07] <Dextronaught> still, whichever one opens first works
[00:09] <Andy14> hi there
[00:09] <SealedWithAKiss> Hey, I'm going to need a little help here. I'm a complete Linux novice, however I have been running Linux Ubuntu on a spare partition for a couple of years. Today I booted into Linux, and found that the kernel started in low graphics mode. This hasn't happened before. Can anybody help?
[00:09] <Thunder_Drop> Dextronaught: well the only suggestion that I can give you is that I currently have java and shockwave flash running at the same time.  I do not think that your problem is from within linux but within firefox itself.  To eliminate the possiblity of it being a linux issue you could use a different browser and see if the problem still exists
[00:10] <Dextronaught> that's a good idea, thanks
[00:10] <Dextronaught> but my mic also performs strangely lol
[00:10] <Thunder_Drop> Dextronaught: from without a browser?
[00:10] <Andy14> @SealedWithAKiss You are using Ubuntu for a couple of years and haven't convinced yourself of deinstalling Windows yet?
[00:10] <Dextronaught> I think it's a thing between using pulseaudio, alsa-base, jack, esound, and w/e
[00:11] <Dextronaught> no no no, I'm talking about, my mic acts strange on Skype and TeamSpeak
[00:11] <Dextronaught> it'll sound fine for about... 1 or 2 minutes, then it goes all static and jumpy when I talk
[00:11] <furicle> @SealedWithAKiss - Did you have the monitor on and connected when you booted up? Have you tried a quick reboot (or just restarted X/GDM) to see if it didn't see your monitor on boot?
[00:11] <Andy14> Just remove pulseaudio
[00:11] <sdwrage> ok I installed the ati flgrx drivers but now I try to run catalyst and it doesnt want to run AND I try to run aticonfig and get 'No Supported Adapters Detected"
[00:11] <Dextronaught> remove pulseaudio?
[00:11] <Dextronaught> and use what
[00:11] <SealedWithAKiss> Andy14, Windows supports many more applications than Linux.
[00:12] <Andy14> And?
[00:12] <Andy14> Wine?
[00:12] <daftykins> sdwrage: sounds like the fglrx driver isn't actually in use. pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log plz
[00:12] <SealedWithAKiss> Andy14, when Linux can meet all of my needs, I wont need Windows any longer.
[00:12] <sdwrage> ok hold on
[00:12] <sdwrage> daftykins, ^
[00:12] <Andy14> I'm using Ubuntu for 3 months and then I realized that I don't need Windows anymore
[00:12] <Thunder_Drop> Dextronaught: pulseaudio is not used by default if I'm correct so uninstalling it will just force every application to use the default
[00:13] <Dextronaught> Andy14, remove pulseaudio and use what?
[00:13] <Andy14> alsa
[00:13] <Dextronaught> ok
[00:13] <Dextronaught> I'll try that
[00:13] <Andy14> Just sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[00:13] <Andy14> I had the same
[00:13] <Andy14> Then it should work
[00:13] <SealedWithAKiss> furicle, the monitor was on and connected. I have tried rebooting a number of times. The kernel isn't recognising my ATI graphics card. The drivers aren't loading.
[00:13] <Andy14> Just fine
[00:13] <FloodBot2> Andy14: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <Andy14> :3
[00:13] <Thunder_Drop> Andy14: owned :)
[00:13] <actionParsnip__> yo yo yo
[00:14] <hspaans> Andy14: and how are you going to solve this issue in the future?
[00:14] <Izinucs> SealedWithAKiss: check ati's site for the drivers.. you might find that ATI has not included your card in any compatible drivers for xorg 7.3
[00:14] <flow2fly> who is the soundcard expert now?
[00:14] <sdwrage> daftykins, www.pastebin.org/77450
[00:14] <flow2fly> i want to solve my card sometimes not recognized error
[00:15] <iflema> SealedWithAKiss how long since youve boot into linux..... can you remember what happened last time you where in there.... did you update.... install anything..?
[00:15] <actionParsnip__> flow2fly: run: sudo lshw -C sound; lspci | grep -i audio     you can use the output to find guides
[00:15] <flow2fly> have this problem since 9.04
[00:15] <daftykins> sdwrage: yeah you see all the (II) lines still say VESA? we need to force it to use fglrx now via the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file - are you using Karmic? (9.10) this file won't exist if so
[00:15] <actionParsnip__> flow2fly: do yuo have an audigy soundcard by any chance?
[00:15] <sdwrage> daftykins, I am not sure
[00:16] <sdwrage> how would I know?
[00:16] <Andy14> hda soundcards do not support microphones in linux at all, right? ^^
[00:16] <daftykins> sdwrage: open a terminal and do "cd /etc/X11/" then "ls" and look for xorg.conf
[00:16] <flow2fly> actionParsnip__:  no i have soundblaster usb
[00:16] <actionParsnip__> Andy14: mine does, i just dont use it
[00:16] <sdwrage> daftykins, yeah its there
[00:16] <flow2fly> Creative Technology, Ltd SoundBlaster MP3+
[00:16] <SealedWithAKiss> Izinucs, I have the driver installation file on my desktop. It's a .run file - I can't re-install using the GUI because I can't complete the installation in low graphics mode. I can only see 50% of the installation wizard.
[00:16] <actionParsnip__> flow2fly: then: lsusb    will help
[00:16] <actionParsnip__> flow2fly: webseach the ID
[00:17] <daftykins> sdwrage: ok hit alt+f2 then type "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[00:17] <SealedWithAKiss> iflema, I cannot remember it's been so long. It's been perhaps 6 months since I have booted into Linux.
[00:17] <daftykins> sdwrage: then pastebin that plz
[00:17] <flow2fly> lsusb thats what i did to tell you the name...
[00:17] <flow2fly> actionParsnip__:  you now i did lots of websearches before i asked in here
[00:17] <Izinucs> SealedWithAKiss: you have to do it from cli.. however you should look at ATI's site and see if your card is depreciated to an older driver.. if it is then it will not work on any linux right now.. not until ati fixes their drivers.
[00:17] <actionParsnip__> flow2fly: then you will have seen the 8 character hex ID, websearch that
[00:18] <flow2fly> you mean this 041e:3010 ?
[00:18] <actionParsnip__> flow2fly: thats all i know, i only buy off the HCLand 100% of my hardware works out of the box
[00:18] <actionParsnip__> flow2fly: yes, find that
[00:18] <iflema> SealedWithAKiss are you on this computer now?
[00:18] <flow2fly> thing is it does work
[00:18] <flow2fly> but sometimes not
[00:19] <SealedWithAKiss> Izinucs, I have attempted a CLI installation. I double-click the .run file but the installation wont run unless I'm running it as a SU. I don't know how to execute a .run file from the command line.
[00:19] <flow2fly> sometimes i can see it on lsusb but not for example with cat /proc/asound/cards
[00:19] <SealedWithAKiss> iflema, I'm in Linux now in low graphics mode.
[00:19] <furicle> @SealedWithAKiss - you may want to review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting - Also note you can move a window past the edge of your desktop by holding down alt then clicking and dragging the window, so you can get down to the 'ok' buttons etc
[00:19] <daftykins> SealedWithAKiss: "sudo chmod +x blah.run" then "./blah.run"
[00:19] <mikekelly> what's the easiest way to monitor the network traffic for a particular process?
[00:19] <mikekelly> can I do that with wireshark?
[00:19] <sdwrage> daftykins, www.pastebin.com/77459
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> !info ntop
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> ntop does so much stuff.. i cant understand it all. :P
[00:20] <jgcampbell300> is there a command to reset all the update information to defaults or original
[00:20] <daftykins> sdwrage: it says it's expired
[00:20] <sdwrage> I dont even understand what that means
[00:20] <actionParsnip__> jgcampbell300: define"update information"
[00:20] <daftykins> sdwrage: nah the pastebin.com site says your paste expired, please try again
[00:20] <Izinucs> SealedWithAKiss: you also have to stop the gui.. so CTRL+ALT+F2 and log in.. then sudo service gdm stop ... then cd ~/Desktop .. if that is where your file is.. then.. sudo ./<filename.run>
[00:20] <sdwrage> oh I see
[00:20] <sdwrage> hold on
[00:21] <sdwrage>  daftykins, www.pastebin.org/77459
[00:21] <Izinucs> SealedWithAKiss: but you should first look in System>Administration>Hardware Drivers and see if there is a driver there waiting to activate.
[00:21] <edomeda> does anyone know of an app that will download album cover art for music and put the files in the directories?  (Already using rhythmbox as player but it doesn't find them all and has no way to manually set covers inside player)
[00:21] <daftykins> sdwrage: your paste # isn't changing, is copy+paste into IRC working?
[00:22] <sdwrage> daftykins, I accidently did .com on first one
[00:22] <flow2fly> actionParsnip__: I really want to know where exactly I can post the bug to someone who really nows this kind of stuff
[00:22] <sdwrage> this is .org
[00:22] <jgcampbell300> when i hit update manager it tells me some of the items can not be reached as if my network is down or it has the wrong info
[00:22] <jgcampbell300> my network is not down
[00:22] <daftykins> sdwrage: ah yeah sorry :) wasn't paying attention
[00:22] <sdwrage> daftykins, np
[00:22] <actionParsnip__> !bug | flow2fly
[00:22] <bastid_raZor> edomeda: i think you can drag and drop album covers if you have them
[00:22] <jgcampbell300> so i would think it has the wrong information, if i were to reset it to defaults maybe it would have the right info
[00:23] <daftykins> sdwrage: yeah you see where it says vesa in speech marks? that's what we want to change. so first, open a terminal and type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old" to make a backup.
[00:23] <sdwrage> ok
[00:23] <OerHeks> jgcampbell300 try an other source server
[00:23] <SealedWithAKiss> Izinucs, daftykins, furicle, I have completed the installation. Thank for pointing out that I could use Alt to move the application into view, and also for letting me know how to run the installation file. I'm going to reboot now to see whether the problem is corrected.
[00:23] <jgcampbell300> ok
[00:23] <sdwrage> daftykins, done
[00:24] <daftykins> sdwrage: so if the GUI (X) doesn't work once we try what i'm gonna suggest, write down to login at the command line (ctrl+alt+f1 through f6 give you 6 login screens etc)
[00:24] <daftykins> sdwrage: and type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to restore the config, then "sudo shutdown -r 0" to reboot
[00:24] <daftykins> but that's only if things go bad :D
[00:24] <jgcampbell300> Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 9.10 _Karmic Koala_ - Release i386 (20091028.5)/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[00:24] <edomeda> bastid_raZor, yeah, but looking for something where I can do more then one at a time.  What I miss is amarok's album cover manager. :-/
[00:24] <sdwrage> daftykins, yeah im on my windows box right now running vmware ubuntu
[00:24] <daftykins> sdwrage: so with the above written down, use the gedit window to delete 'vesa' within the "" and type it so it reads fglrx instead
[00:25] <sdwrage> ok
[00:25] <kinja-sheep> jgcampbell300: Turn off the CD option in Software Sources.
[00:25] <daftykins> sdwrage: ooooh i see, you can't use your real graphics card from a VM then i'm afraid!
[00:25] <edomeda> bastid_raZor, really looking for some app/script to run though and grab them all at once
[00:25] <sdwrage> daftykins, oh really? that sucks
[00:25] <sdwrage> so how can I increase screen resolution?
[00:25] <actionParsnip__> sdwrage: you can install te guest additions to get more than 800x600 res
[00:25] <jgcampbell300> thanks
[00:25] <gmachine_24> Greetings Earthlings. Anyone have a recommendation please for an mp3 tagging app? And, please, not audacity. Thanks.
[00:26] <sdwrage> hrm
[00:26] <bastid_raZor> edomeda: none that i know of.. one of the reasons i stopped using rhythmbox :\
[00:26] <daftykins> sdwrage: which version of ubuntu have you got in the VM? try "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-vmware" and let me know what the output is
[00:26] <edomeda> gmachine_24, easytag
[00:26] <actionParsnip__> sdwrage: you can add a little more to get some basic 3d accelleration but basically you wont get 3d acceleration
[00:26] <sdwrage> daftykins, couldnt find xorg-driver-vmware
[00:26] <gmachine_24> edomeda, I was looking at that.
[00:27] <edomeda> gmachine_24, does good job, just hard to figure out at first
[00:27]  * WhiteCrow1 hi guys
[00:27] <Rubbberducky> What is the black/grey theme bundled with ubuntu 9.1 called?  Will it work on ubuntu studio?
[00:27] <sdwrage> actionParsnip__, I only use it for web developement but want it full screen really
[00:27] <sdwrage> 1680 x 1050
[00:27] <gmachine_24> edomeda, it seemed there was some prob d/l it from sourceforge
[00:27] <sdwrage> I think thats the res I need
[00:27] <daftykins> ah try again with xserver-xorg-video-vmware
[00:27] <edomeda> gmachine_24, it's in repos
[00:27] <daftykins> sdwrage: ^
[00:27] <edomeda> gmachine_24, just apt-get install easytag
[00:27] <gmachine_24> so I guess they should have called it hard tag
[00:27] <gmachine_24> ok
[00:28] <actionParsnip__> sdwrage: thats fine, mount the guest additions cd and run the script relevant to your ubuntu's arcitecture
[00:28] <iflema> Rubberducky dust... dust should be default.
[00:28] <trism> gmachine_24: I like picard for auto tagging and kid3 for manual edits
[00:28] <sdwrage> actionParsnip__, guest additions cd?
[00:28] <SealedWithAKiss> Thanks to those who helped - everything is functioning correctly now!
[00:29] <WhiteCrow1> i want to know how can i connect nokia 5800 wit usb cable on ubuntu 9.10 ? any one can help me
[00:29] <sdwrage> daftykins, says its newest version
[00:29] <actionParsnip__> sdwrage: run the virtual system, then click the options at the top and you'll see the option
[00:29] <gmachine_24> trism, thanks.
[00:29] <daftykins> sdwrage: ok in the same gedit window change 'vesa' for 'vmware' and save and reboot
[00:29] <daftykins> sdwrage: so which ubuntu version and vmware version are you running then?
[00:30] <actionParsnip__> sdwrage: then shutdown the box when its downloaded, mount the cd then boot it up andinstall. it will give the modules for the virtual graphics card
[00:30] <mikekelly> does anyone know how to observe a particular process with ntop?
[00:30] <gmachine_24> I have another ? I am at Starbux, connected to their wifi but I always have trouble staying connected .... anyone else have the same prob? Every other wireless connection is fine and I can connect using windows @ starbucks so.......
[00:30] <sdwrage> daftykins, vmware player 3.0 and Ubuntu 9.10
[00:30] <actionParsnip__> sdwrage: http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers/2008/virtualbox-install-guest-additions.jpg
[00:31] <Rubbberducky> iflema,  Not the default, the darker one that comes with it... Its a darker grey I think.  I really like it.
[00:31] <sdwrage> actionParsnip__, isnt thatfor virtualbox though?
[00:31] <daftykins> sdwrage: ah right. player is quite limited, consider the free ubuntu server for better support etc. though it's a little manky since they moved it to a web based interface
[00:31] <actionParsnip__> sdwrage: sure
[00:31] <WhiteCrow1>  i want to know how can i connect nokia 5800 wit usb cable on ubuntu 9.10 ? any one can help me
[00:31] <actionParsnip__> sdwrage: you will need to use an xorg.conf file to get a higer res: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=777759
[00:31] <iflema> Rubberducky yeah dust... dust should be default. System / Preferences / Apperance
[00:31] <sdwrage> actionParsnip__, ill take a look... thx
[00:32] <Dextronaught> Andy14, I did as you told me, and after restarting my computer, I can no longer access my sound preferences
[00:32] <Dextronaught> there's no speaker at the top-right
[00:32] <Dextronaught> I can talk on mic, but I'm not sure if I can hear back, and I can't listen to music that I've downloaded
[00:33] <Dextronaught> and I did sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio and then sudo apt-get install alsa
[00:33] <Dextronaught> I don't have any sound at all on firefox
[00:34] <jgcampbell300> I have two HD's in one computer a 20g and an 80G ... the 20g is going bad and that is where ubuntu is at ... is there a way to tell linux to move its self to the 80G with out much involvement
[00:35] <Dextronaught> Andy14?
[00:36] <flow2fly> Dextronaught: what type soundcard do you have
[00:36] <Dextronaught> realtek
[00:36] <flow2fly> onboard?
[00:36] <Dextronaught> yes
[00:36] <Dextronaught> laptop
[00:36] <notk0> jgcampbell300, technically it is possible, you should set your 80 GB as master and do a cloning of the 20 gb, IDK how that is done (dd maybe? ) but I know it's possible
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  may be easier to just do a new instgall to the 80gb then recover/copy files from the 20 - if the 20 has some bad system files. it may be hard to track them down
[00:37] <flow2fly> what was the problem again?
[00:37] <Dextronaught> I uhh
[00:37] <flow2fly> card does not work
[00:37] <flow2fly> ?
[00:37] <Dextronaught> my mic on Skype and TeamSpeak
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  movimng the system over will also mean you need to tweak the uuiids and other stuff in some configs
[00:37] <Dextronaught> when I'd talk, it'd work for a minute or two
[00:37] <flow2fly> oh just your mic
[00:37] <Dextronaught> and then go static and choppy
[00:37] <Dextronaught> so... Andy14 told me he had the same problem before
[00:37] <Dextronaught> and removed pulseaudio
[00:37] <Dextronaught> and used just alsa
[00:38] <flow2fly> understand
[00:38] <Dextronaught> and it fixed it for him, and it kinda did for me
[00:38] <Dextronaught> I think the mic works, but I don't got sound, I can't even access my sound preferences now
[00:38] <flow2fly> do you have more than 1 soundcard?
[00:38] <Dextronaught> I doubt it.
[00:38] <jgcampbell300> hmm .. ok sounds like i should just do a fresh install of ubuntu ... but it would be handy to know how to in the future in case a fresh build is not acceptable
[00:38] <meganerd> pulse has its uses, but it can get in the way
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> !backup | jgcampbell300
[00:39] <flow2fly> can you do cat /proc/asound/cards
[00:39] <dotblank> I love pulse. I absolutely love... best thing since potatoes
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  also check out the fsarchiver tool
[00:39] <dotblank> it*
[00:39] <flow2fly> by the way i do have sound problems too
[00:40] <Dextronaught> flow2fly, me? on terminal 'cat proc/asound/cards'
[00:40] <Dextronaught> like that?
[00:40] <flow2fly> exactly
[00:40] <Itaku> someone help me :s
[00:40] <Dextronaught> 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[00:40] <Dextronaught>                       HDA Intel at 0xf0000000 irq 22
[00:40] <jgcampbell300> thanks again
[00:40] <dotblank> Dextronaught, thats not good
[00:40] <flow2fly> ok so you just have 1 card
[00:40] <Dextronaught> ):
[00:40] <Itaku> some body help me quick
[00:40] <Itaku> its urgent
[00:41] <Itaku> really urgent
[00:41] <flow2fly> dotblank: why?
[00:41] <dotblank> Dextronaught, can you do aplay -l
[00:41] <Dextronaught> ok, 1 sec
[00:41] <IdleOne> Itaku: try asking a question first
[00:41] <Itaku> someone help me
[00:41] <meganerd> dotblank: I have the opposite view, personally pulse has been a giant headache
[00:41] <dotblank> Itaku, is it a quick fix?
[00:41] <Itaku> i dont know
[00:41] <bazhang> Itaku, ask a question
[00:41] <flow2fly> g
[00:41] <Itaku> but my erectile disfunction is acting up
[00:41] <Itaku> any ideas?
[00:41] <meganerd> dotblank: I do look forward to it actually working properly and playing nice with others (like jack)
[00:41] <flow2fly> dotblank: can you tell why is it not good
[00:41] <IdleOne> bazhang: answered before I could :P
[00:42] <dotblank> flow2fly, irqs scare me
[00:42] <dotblank> XD
[00:42] <Dextronaught> lol
[00:42] <flow2fly> lol
[00:42] <meganerd> flow2fly: pulse will eventually be good, it is just early in it;s developement
[00:43] <flow2fly> Dextronaught: start alsamixer
[00:43] <spowers> is anyone successfully running lucid in a xen domU yet?
[00:43] <Dextronaught> ok
[00:43] <dotblank> Dextronaught, do you have a voice modem?
[00:43] <Dextronaught> uhh
[00:43] <flow2fly> see if the card is muted or something
[00:43] <Dextronaught> a voice modem.... mmm, Idk
[00:43] <IdleOne> !lucid | spowers
[00:43] <spowers> IdleOne: thanks
[00:43] <dotblank> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem] weord... never seen that ever
[00:43] <Rubbberducky> Can someone on Ubuntu 9.1 check what the Black/Dark Grey Theme is that comes bundled with Ubuntu?  I believe if you go to Appearance and look at the themes its on the bottom right...
[00:44] <sybariten> Hey
[00:44] <Rubbberducky> hi
[00:44] <dotblank> you mean dust?
[00:44] <IdleOne> Rubbberducky: newwave ?
[00:44] <IdleOne> new Wave*
[00:44] <Rubbberducky> I think one of those is it...
[00:44] <Dextronaught> http://yfrog.com/2m01162010003p
[00:44] <Rubbberducky> lol
[00:44] <Rubbberducky> Let me search them!
[00:44] <Rubbberducky> Thanks!
[00:44] <Dextronaught> flow2fly, http://yfrog.com/2m01162010003p
[00:45] <sybariten> it just struck me; its never really possible to do a true install of a distro to SD card or USB memory right?
[00:45] <iflema> Rubberducky New Wave is bottom right for me
[00:45] <IdleOne> !usb | sybariten
[00:45] <IdleOne> sybariten: I think this is what you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[00:46] <dotblank> Dextronaught, so what was your problem.. cant hear audio?
[00:46] <Dextronaught> well
[00:46] <Dextronaught> before I had sound, but it acted strangely, but I did have it
[00:47] <sybariten> IdleOne: "persistent" method is a middle way, i think
[00:47] <Dextronaught> main problem was that my mic would work on Skype or TeamSpeak for a good mintue or two
[00:47] <Dextronaught> and then go static and choppy
[00:47] <dotblank> hmm.. bizare
[00:47] <Dextronaught> and somebody told me to remove pulseaudio
[00:47] <Supersaiyan_IV> sybariten, persistent is the only way, and has the same functions
[00:47] <Dextronaught> and install alsa
[00:47] <Dextronaught> so I did, and restarted my pc
[00:47] <dotblank> Dextronaught, ok yea that was silly advice
[00:47] <Dextronaught> and now I don't got the speaker at the top-right like I did before
[00:48] <Dextronaught> well dotblank, that guy had had the same problem as I did
[00:48] <Dextronaught> and he said it fixed his problem
[00:48] <flow2fly> Dextronaught: are you sure you completely removed pulse?
[00:48] <Dextronaught> he also had the static mic, etc
[00:48] <dotblank> Dextronaught, he is right but I believe it causes alot more then it solves
[00:48] <Dextronaught> uhh, sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[00:48] <Dextronaught> ?
[00:48] <sybariten> Supersaiyan_IV: i dont think its like a real install
[00:48] <buttons840> i just installed ubuntu on an older computer of mine; now that in install is finished the computer will turn on and post, but as soon as it begins booting from the disk the system powers down; so basically i get, turn on, post, turn off;    any ideas on what i can do to resolve this issue?
[00:49] <dotblank> Were you using skype with pulse?
[00:49] <flow2fly> when i did it before i went to the synaptic and removed everything with *pulse*
[00:49] <dotblank> the newer version
[00:49] <Supersaiyan_IV> sybariten, usb drives use fat32, you cant format it to ext3/4, so there is no other way
[00:49] <Dextronaught> TeamSpeak 2 and TeamSpeak 3
[00:49] <flow2fly> i am not sure if this is the correct way but i worked
[00:49] <sybariten> Supersaiyan_IV: oh, so the filesystem is the catch?
[00:49] <Supersaiyan_IV> sybariten, yes
[00:49] <sybariten> ah crap
[00:50] <dotblank> Dextronaught, the problem is that teamspeak is oss I believe
[00:50] <flow2fly> dotblank: but a least he should be able to get some music
[00:50] <dotblank> Dextronaught, have you tried starting teamspeak with padsp?
[00:50] <Dextronaught> no
[00:51] <Dextronaught> can I get that off synaptic?
[00:51] <dotblank> the reason he cant get music is because gstreamer is trying to use pulse most likely
[00:51] <dotblank> Dextronaught, its part of pulse
[00:51] <Crewsr3> How can I set up xchat to start up when the computer starts up but have in min in the sys tray
[00:52] <flow2fly> so remove gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio
[00:52] <dotblank> Dextronaught, if you type gstreamer-properties
[00:52] <Rubbberducky> It was new wave.  Thanks guys
[00:52] <dotblank> you can set it to alsa or oss
[00:52] <unop> Crewsr3, xchat --minimize=2
[00:52] <dotblank> or pulse
[00:53] <unop> Crewsr3,  it's all documented in the manpage
[00:53] <Dextronaught> ok
[00:53] <Crewsr3> unop, ok, I will look in the manpage
[00:53] <Dextronaught> dotblank, you're a miracle worker :D
[00:53] <flow2fly> dotblank: do you also have some tip for me? i have the issue that my usb sound card sometimes is not recognized
[00:54] <dotblank> setting it to alsa or oss should get your totem and other gstreamer apps working ewithout pulse
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. anyone noticed - if you let the pc sit for a while.. (like long enough for the screen saver to kick in, but it not kickingin) i move the mouse.. it dims then comes back. as if the screen/poqwer saver is kicking in once you move the mouse.
[00:54] <Dextronaught> still can't hear music though
[00:54] <buttons840> it's a real pleasure to install and os using floppies, when the only floppy drive you have is in a computer with no os :)
[00:54] <Dextronaught> I'ma try alsa
[00:54] <dotblank> flow2fly, is this with pulse or without
[00:54] <flow2fly> with pulse, fresh 9.10 installation
[00:54] <Gary20> i'm trying to manually install a firefox addon. i've located the extension folder ~/.mozilla/firefox/... but after that, how would i go about it? i had thought that this was like installing a plugin .so, just drag and drop.
[00:55] <dotblank> Dextronaught, because alsa locks down the sound card multiple playback streams are not support without the use of dmix. So you may have to close teamspeak in order to fix this
[00:55] <flow2fly> i had this problem also with 9.04
[00:55] <teadict> any idea of why an ASUS Eee 1201n keyboard doesn't respond on 9.10 booted from a pendrive?
[00:55] <Dextronaught> Ok.
[00:55] <dotblank> flow2fly, when you plugged it in have you seen if it tries to load the modules.. from the terminal type pacmd then list-modules
[00:56] <iflema> Dr_Willis not that but ive noticed ive selected no screensaver, no screen blanking and yet every 15min i get screen blanking....
[00:56] <flow2fly> dotblank: what to look for?
[00:57] <dotblank> another way is to killall pulseaudio and then run pulseaudio so you can get the stderr output in the terminal and then you can see any errors easily in realtime
[00:57] <RugeAcoustics> hi folks
[00:57] <buttons840> could the raid configuration in my computer be causing problems with my ubuntu install (as i mentioned above, i installed successfully, but upon first HDD boot, the system just shuts down)?
[00:57] <dotblank> flow2fly, something about the name of the device
[00:57] <RugeAcoustics> Would Ubuntu 9.10 run suitably with an onboard GFX?
[00:57] <buttons840> are RAID arrays a common source of trouble?
[00:57] <dotblank> flow2fly, modules are loaded and sorted by date. so if you just added the usb device it should be one of the last devices
[00:58] <domjohnson> How can i convert .flv to .mpeg with VLC?
[00:58] <flow2fly> alsa_card.usb-041e_USB_Audio-00
[00:58] <flow2fly> maybe this
[00:58] <dotblank> yes ok so pulse has loaded the module
[00:58] <norbi> hy, do you know any free software for hosting, like cpanel?
[00:58] <flow2fly> yes at the moment it works
[00:58] <dotblank> flow2fly, can you then run list-sinks
[00:58] <flow2fly> last start it did not work for example
[00:58] <dotblank> ok
[00:58] <flow2fly> it is completely random
[00:59] <dotblank> flow2fly, do you know of any associated eents when it does not?
[00:59] <flow2fly> eents?
[00:59] <flow2fly> events?
[00:59] <dotblank> flow2fly, it may be that the module did not properly unload when the device is removed
[00:59] <dotblank> events*
[01:00] <flow2fly> you mean i shut down my machine, then it does not unload?
[01:00] <dotblank> hmm
[01:00] <dotblank> So this usually happens at startup then
[01:00] <flow2fly> yeah
[01:00] <flow2fly> i can see it with lsusb though
[01:01] <dotblank> hmm... ok do you have a modified default.pa in ~/.pulse?
[01:01] <flow2fly> well no
[01:01] <flow2fly> what is this?
[01:01] <dotblank> it is a file pulse ues to load when it starts
[01:01] <flow2fly> ah
[01:01] <flow2fly> maybe my problem lies even deeper
[01:02] <dotblank> the system wide file is stored in /etc/pulse/default.pa
[01:02] <dotblank> it could be a problem when it starts.. but what you could do is write a script that unloads the module then reloads it
[01:02] <dotblank> make it a shortcut and call it "click here when it doesnt work"
[01:03] <flow2fly> but i cant even see the card in /proc/asound/cards
[01:03] <ritchje> Hello, My bass seems a bit to flat compared to Windows. Any ideas?
[01:03] <dotblank> ok then that problem has to deal with alsa and not pulse
[01:03] <flow2fly> so are you sure it is a pulseaudio problem
[01:03] <dotblank> flow2fly, if alsa cant see it then pulse cant see it
[01:03] <flow2fly> is pulse build on top of alsa?
[01:04] <dotblank> flow2fly, yes but it doesnt HAVE to use it. only if you want to use a local sound card.. (you could run sound over the network for instance or run jack)
[01:04] <flow2fly> sounds nice
[01:05] <flow2fly> but i have to look into alsa for my problem right?
[01:05] <dotblank> you may have to compile newer alsa-drivers or find a ppa for them
[01:05] <flow2fly> ppa?
[01:05] <dotblank> flow2fly, yes. I find the experts in #alsa to be extremely helpfull
[01:05] <dotblank> !ppa
[01:05] <Tuxguy> I installed ubuntu and my internet is extremely slow. If I reboot to Fedora, it is normal / fast. What gives?
[01:05] <teadict> any idea of why an ASUS Eee 1201n keyboard doesn't respond on 9.10 booted from an USB source?
[01:06] <flow2fly> but this might be an ubuntu problem?
[01:06] <dotblank> teadict, can you rephrase the question it was a bit confusing?
[01:06] <Pokoloko> Hello all :)
[01:06] <flow2fly> or you think it is better to ask the alsa guys
[01:06] <flow2fly> hi
[01:06] <dotblank> flow2fly, yes but it is most likely an alsa bug and if it has been fixed then ubuntu may not have it inside of its repos
[01:07] <dotblank> flow2fly, what I would is try compiling the alsa drivers from source and installing them. if you have issues #alsa should be able to help
[01:07] <Tuxguy> Also, I disabled ipv6 and the internet is extremely slow. 100ms to google or more
[01:07] <Pokoloko> I recently installed a version of the unspeakable operating system and it happily provided me with an mbr rootkit is there any way i can erase an mbr ?
[01:08] <flow2fly> this sounds complicated
[01:08] <dotblank> flow2fly, it is
[01:08] <flow2fly> :P
[01:08] <teadict> dotblank: I booted Ubuntu 9.10 on my new ASUS Eee 1201n using a pendrive (which holds the OS image) and the keyboard doesn't work
[01:09] <teadict> dotblank: haven't done much testing yet but I'm pretty desoriented anyway
[01:09] <dotblank> teadict, hmm... it may have to do with the usb controller..
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> Pokoloko:  grub or the windows commands write a new mbr to the mbr. overwriting whatever ones are there.
[01:09] <teadict> dotblank: I've doubted about the live cd being booted from USB too
[01:09] <dotblank> teadict, have to tried to enable ps/2 emulation in the bios?
[01:09] <teadict> dotblank: how would that help?
[01:10] <teadict> dotblank: oh
[01:10] <dotblank> teadict, it would make your mouse and keyboard act like they are not usb devices
[01:10] <teadict> dotblank: wait, no..
[01:10] <Pokoloko> Dr_Willis: thank you i will look into it further, if i encounter any difficulties i will return
[01:10] <teadict> dotblank: the USB device is the pendrive, from which I'm booting karmic
[01:10] <dotblank> teadict, does it actually boot karmic
[01:10] <teadict> dotblank: the keyboard not working is the one of my netbook asus 1201n
[01:10] <teadict> dotblank: yes it does
[01:11] <teadict> dotblank: the only thing not working is the netbook's keyboard
[01:11] <dotblank> teadict, does it let you use the keyboard during the boot loader?
[01:11] <sybariten> Supersaiyan_IV: according to this guide http://www.unnionline.com/blog/?p=93 it works allright to format a USB memory so the problem has to lie elsewhere.... either that or i'm misunderstanding.
[01:11] <Sonja> how do i mount my windows partition so i can browse My Documents?
[01:11] <teadict> dotblank: didn't try that.. but wait.. right now stupid W7 is applying some updates, I'll ping you when I'm rebooting
[01:11] <Tuxguy> Why is my internet slow in ubuntu but not fedora?
[01:12] <buttons840> how can i check the integrety of a usb install disk?
[01:12] <teadict> dotblank: I'll see if keyboard respond before launching X when I'm there
[01:12] <tarski> if i want to share internet between two ubuntu comps what should i do
[01:12] <flow2fly> Sonja: go to "places"
[01:12] <dotblank> Tuxguy, can you give me info on your network and your configuration of your network devices.. IE output from ifconfig and netstat -rn
[01:12] <flow2fly> there you should find it
[01:12] <iflema> Sonja Places desktop menu, then click Home Folder... in the left pane the dive should be listed ready for i click mount
[01:13] <dotblank> Sonja if it does not let you it may be the windows partition was not cleanly unmounted
[01:13] <Sonja> thanks
[01:13] <Tuxguy> dotblank, that machine is toooo slow to get on irc with
[01:13] <adac> I geht this error when I try to start a certain python script: UnsupportedLibcVersionError: Libc 2.10.1 is unsupported, requires at least Libc 2.4 Is there no libc 2.4 available in ubuntu?
[01:14] <dotblank> Tuxguy, sounds really bad
[01:14] <Tuxguy> dotblank, > 200ms to google
[01:14] <MrKeuner> hello, I see in top that, for example, gnome-do application is in S mode. But the key combination to invoke gnome-do does not seem to work, what does that mean? Normally, in that case, I just kill the process and restart a new instance but wondering if something else can be done? What is really happening there?
[01:14] <dotblank> Tuxguy, can you ping your gateway
[01:14] <Tuxguy> dotblank, but, i can reboot to fedora, and its normal speeds. I tried disabling ipv6, but it  didnt make a difference
[01:14] <Tuxguy> dotblank, trying
[01:14] <kinja-sheep> MrKeuner: S mode?
[01:14] <Tuxguy> dotblank, 0.6ms average
[01:14] <MrKeuner> Sleep mode
[01:15] <flow2fly> dotblank: how can i see the version number of alsa in my ubuntu?
[01:15] <dotblank> Tuxguy, so thats fast... when you ping google is it always 200ms or does it startout at 200ms then slowly go down
[01:15] <iflema> MrKeuner permissions maybe prefix with sudo
[01:15] <Tuxguy> dotblank, well, for the first 5 seconds or so it just hangs... then it starts pinning at 200ms and goes up
[01:16] <Tuxguy> dotblank, then it goes down to about 30-40 ms for a while... 'hangs' and then starts back
[01:16] <dotblank> Tuxguy, ok thats a bit wierd very wierd indeed..
[01:16] <meganerd> Tuxguy: what does "sudo lsof -i" return?
[01:16] <dotblank> flow2fly, um h/o I have to look at that
[01:16] <MrKeuner> iflema, could not get what you mean
[01:16] <iflema> MrKeuner sudo top
[01:17] <MrKeuner> iflema, ah that would show more information?
[01:17] <iflema> MrKeuner dont think so.... not sure... but full access
[01:17] <dotblank> flow2fly, cat /proc/asound/versio
[01:17] <meganerd> MrKeuner: top just shows what is running on your system
[01:17] <dotblank> flow2fly, cat /proc/asound/version
[01:17] <Tuxguy> meganerd, i dont have a way to paste it...
[01:18] <dotblank> Tuxguy, can you try pinging something other than google
[01:18] <meganerd> Tuxguy: doesn't matter, how many things are returned?
[01:18] <Sonja> is there an alternate battery bar option that shows the number of minutes left instead of just a battery icon?
[01:18] <flow2fly> 1.0.20.
[01:18] <meganerd> do any of them have the word torrent in them?
[01:18] <MrKeuner> meganerd, thought so, then how does an application become unresponsive and show as Sleep in top
[01:18] <jgcampbell300> speach/a.i. engines ... does ubuntu have anything like this ?
[01:19] <dotblank> flow2fly, seems alsa is at 1.0.22
[01:19] <meganerd> MrKeuner: I usually use ps to find sleeping or zombies
[01:19] <dotblank> flow2fly, cat /proc/asound/version
[01:19] <dotblank> flow2fly, whoops wrong paste
[01:19] <meganerd> I use htop for easier readability, and atop to get more details (like disk IO)
[01:19] <dotblank> flow2fly, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Download
[01:20] <MrKeuner> meganerd, but a sleeping app does not necessarily mean an app that should be killed
[01:20] <meganerd> MrKeuner: correct
[01:20] <Jasonrj> I'm trying to get my wireless working. I had to install ndiswrapper and use an old Windows driver. I've got that driver installed now. ndiswrapper -l returns driver installed, device present message. But the internet still does not work.
[01:20] <flea> hi all, i am looking for 64bit libpcre.so.3  if someone would mind to share that file with me, much appreciated
[01:20] <dotblank> jgcampbell300, well none that really any good IMO
[01:20] <flow2fly> dotblank: i am looking at the changelogs
[01:20] <Sonja> !battery
[01:20] <Sonja> !battery-meter
[01:20] <git__> anyone here test windows xp ISO on qemu-kvm on Ubuntu 9.10?
[01:21] <dotblank> Sonja, if you hover over it with a mouse it should say
[01:21] <jgcampbell300> i c ... do you know of any promising projects i could look in on and see if i can contribute ?
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> !find libpcre
[01:21] <dotblank> !ubottu
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> !find libpcre.so.3
[01:21] <flea> Dr_Willis, i do not use ubuntu, and cant find this shared lib in my distro :)
[01:21] <teadict> dotblank: I tried the famous acpi=off nolapic and the keyboard is working, lulz
[01:22] <dotblank> teadict, lulz indead
[01:22] <dotblank> indeed*
[01:22] <flea> i will accept any method if one cares to share
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> flea:  with linux you normally dont just copy .so files about.. Time to use your  disrtos pacakge manager system or source I guess
[01:22] <teadict> dotblank: works for live, once installed I can be sure of what it is (if it still doesn't work without the arguments)
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> flea:  or go to the ubuntu arvhive/deb sites and find one of those pacakges with  the files i guess
[01:22] <flea> Dr_Willis, ty, yes i am very aware, file plz
[01:23] <flea> Dr_Willis, wow u typed at least 10x more than /dcc send <file> would have been but honestly thanks anyhow
[01:23] <dotblank> flea can you not find that lib in 64bit...
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> flea:  youa re assuming i even can dcc.
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> and i am on 64bit.
[01:24] <flea> i have spent time looking for it in gentoo and unable to, i am resorting to trying this with no ubuntu install around
[01:24] <flea> my .deb file is for 64bit ubuntu and this is a dep
[01:24] <flea> boxee is the application
[01:24] <jgcampbell300> ok so something easyer ... anyone know of a really great game for linux
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  'battle for wesnoth'
[01:25] <flow2fly> dotblank: i did not find my card in the changelogs between 1.0.20 and 1.0.22
[01:25] <dotblank> flea, im confused.. there are both 64 bit and 32 bit in repos... how are having issues?
[01:25] <flea> jgcampbell300, regnum-online
[01:25] <jgcampbell300> neet ill check it out ... thanks
[01:25] <Pokoloko> Dr_Willis: I have deleted the mbr partition on the drive in question but i cannot connect it to the rest of the hard drive
[01:25] <flow2fly> dotblank: and alsa guys seem to be all sleeping
[01:25] <flow2fly> nobody talks in #alsa
[01:25] <flea> dotblank,  sorry i didnt understand
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> Pokoloko:  the 'mbr' has a boot loader part. (where viruses hang out) and the definition of the drive layout. theres no 'mbr partition'
[01:26] <dotblank> flow2fly, sometimes it isnt in the changelogs.. but you did look so I don't blame you if you do not want to upgrade if you wont get any thing out of it.. you may have to submit a bug report...
[01:26] <dotblank> flow2fly, yea its a hit or miss.. but they are smart
[01:26] <flow2fly> dotblank: yes but this should go to ubuntu or to alsa?
[01:26] <Pokoloko> Dr_Willis: just found an 8m partition and deleted it then for safety
[01:26] <Jasonrj> Can anyone help me get my wireless working? I had to install ndiswrapper and use an old Windows driver. I've got that driver installed now. ndiswrapper -l returns driver installed, device present message. But the internet still does not work.
[01:27] <iflema> jgcampbell300 http://www.playdeb.net
[01:27] <flow2fly> dotblank: i think i will go to bed now and try contact alsa tomorrow
[01:27] <dotblank> flow2fly, because you are not running the latest alsa they may not consider the bug valid..
[01:27] <flow2fly> dotblank: but thanks for your support so far
[01:27] <dotblank> flow2fly, thats a good idea.. gets some rest and try again with alsa peoples later
[01:27] <flow2fly> maybe i will compile it then
[01:27] <jgcampbell300> thanks iflema
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> Pokoloko:  windows for some odd reason makes  a little partition like that at times.
[01:31] <Pokoloko> Dr_Willis: Last question and i wont bother you any more,  after i sudo grub , it tells me to >root (hd0,0) how do i convert (hd0,0) to sda2
[01:31] <flea> Pokoloko, try out grub's tab completion - its quite handy :)
[01:32] <Landon> hey guys, I recently cleaned house and removed a lot of seemingly "useless" packages lately, but now I can't play encrypted dvds at all :\
[01:32] <dotblank> flea, grub has tab completion? HOLY **** i am amazed!!!!!
[01:32] <phong_> hi
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> Pokoloko:  with grub1  hd0,0 = sda1   hdd1,0 would be sdb1    hd1,1 would be sdb2
[01:32] <Landon> I have libdvdcss2 installed from medibuntu as per guides, but I still see errors in dmesg about disc acces
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> Pokoloko:  grub (1) starts counting at ZERO.. grub2 does it a little differently
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> dotblank:  yes it does. :)
[01:33] <rww> Landon: do you have libdvdread installed?
[01:33] <Landon> yes
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> grub2 starts the partitions # at 1 i think.. instead of 0
[01:34] <Landon> rww: nevermind... it fixed itself on reboot
[01:34]  * Landon is a happy camper again :)
[01:34] <jgcampbell300> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) what does that mean
[01:34] <Landon> just assumed it still wasn't working
[01:35] <rww> jgcampbell300: Do you have more than one package manager running?
[01:35] <phong_> question: what is the software use for boot and then backup HD to a image file.  If anythign goes wrong, i can use the backup file image and restore.
[01:35] <jgcampbell300> hmm i dont think s o
[01:35] <iflema> jgcampbell300 another package manager is running....
[01:35] <jgcampbell300> how can i find out if there is another runing
[01:36] <phong_> any help would be appreciated
[01:36] <jgcampbell300> lol nm i found one in the background runing
[01:36] <iflema> jgcampbell300 try agin when that done
[01:36] <phong_> ?
[01:36] <jgcampbell300> ty
[01:37] <jgcampbell300> wonder if there is any new games like the old Trade Wars 2002
[01:37] <iflema> jgcampbell300 or queue it up in the software centre... if thats an option
[01:37] <phong_> question: what is the software use for boot and then backup HD to a image file.  If anythign goes wrong, i can use the backup file image and restore.
[01:39] <FlyingCow> Can anyone give me a hand installing a specific driver for my wireless card?
[01:41] <iflema> FlyingCow does you device show under the menu System / Administration / Hardware Drivers
[01:41] <FlyingCow> I'm actually in Xubuntu, the device works. I have to have a specific driver for it.
[01:42] <FlyingCow> I'll check iflema
[01:42] <kwtm> Hi! Kubuntu 8.04 user here with question about Ubuntu 9.04: how can I change my GDM font so it's not tiny (7 point)?
[01:42] <iflema> FlyingCow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[01:43] <Jasonrj> Can anyone help me get my wireless working? I had to install ndiswrapper and use an old Windows driver. I've got that driver installed now. ndiswrapper -l returns driver installed, device present message. But the internet still does not work.
[01:43] <kwtm> I have lots more questions about this one, too.
[01:43] <FlyingCow> My wifi is supported I need the driver for aircrack-ng
[01:43] <kwtm> Jasonrj: What's the output of 'iwconfig'?
[01:44] <FlyingCow> I
[01:44] <Jasonrj> kwtm: lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions.
[01:44] <FlyingCow> I'm having problems getting the drivers for my aircrack and for wireshark.
[01:45] <UbuN2> phong_, partimage is nice
[01:45] <UbuN2> check it out on wiki :)
[01:46] <kwtm> Jasonrj: Darn.  I'm newbish, too.  Out of my depth a bit.
[01:46] <Jasonrj> Thanks for trying :)
[01:47] <FlyingCow> Does anyone have any familiarity using Aircrack here?
[01:47] <jimi__> How do you install 'deb' ?
[01:47] <yoyoned> FlyingCow: ive used it, but im no expert
[01:47] <dotblank> jimcooncat, dpkg -i (.deb file)
[01:48] <anon^_^> anyone running kernel 2.6.32 on Karmic without adverse effects?
[01:48] <yoyoned> !deb|dotblank
[01:48] <FlyingCow> I've just got to get it to read this wireless card, as well as get wireshark to read it. I could get it in Gentoo no problem because I could emerge the driver I wanted. This one I can't
[01:48] <UbuN2> Jasonrj, which wifi card have u got pls ?
[01:49] <buttons840> pro tip: when installing from a live CD, don't install to a flash stick
[01:49] <Jasonrj> INPROCOMM IPN 2220
[01:49] <jimi__> yoyoned, so deb is not the name of the app, i see a lot of sites that say like 'deb http://'
[01:50] <UbuN2> thanks Jasonrj ill check it out give me a few mins
[01:50] <yoyoned> jimi__: deb is not the name of an ap, it is a package format
[01:50] <jimi__> yoyoned, ty, i was trying to install cinelerra
[01:50] <osmosis> anywhere else I can recover crash information besides /var/log ?
[01:50] <Jasonrj> UbuN2: Thanks... I think I have the correct driver, but don't really know what I'm doing.
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[01:51] <yoyoned> jimi__: what file did you wownload
[01:51] <jimi__> yoyoned, none
[01:51] <UbuN2> nps Jasonrj
[01:51] <yoyoned> jimi__ search for it in synaptic
[01:51] <valajbeg> can someone help me to force unlock package list that has been locked by other application?
[01:51] <yoyoned> !synaptic|jimi__:
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[01:52] <valajbeg> hello, can someone help me to force unlock package list that has been locked by other application?
[01:52] <abumaia> well I got my system reinstalled without encryption.  thanks to those who helped answer my questions
[01:52] <jimi__> its not in there, yoyoned i guess i need to add their repo, which is what i was doing, it was deb http:// .... dapper .. etc
[01:53] <yoyoned> !sources.list
[01:53] <bastid_raZor> !cinelerra | jimi__
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[01:53] <abumaia> does anyone have any idea why gksu wouldn't ask me for my password for synaptic, software sources, etc, with an encrytped system?
[01:53] <meganerd> openshot is another video editing app
[01:53] <valajbeg> hey can someone help me to force unlock package list that has been locked by other application?
[01:54] <UbuN2> Jasonrj, can u do this command in prompt and give me a feed back on result !
[01:54] <meganerd> valajbeg: I am not sure I understand the problem
[01:54] <UbuN2> ndiswrapper -l
[01:54] <meganerd> valajbeg: is apt locked by another instance?
[01:54] <valajbeg> yes
[01:54] <valajbeg> meganerd, yes
[01:55] <iflema> valajbeg most likely another package manager is running....allow it to finish then try again.... of delete the lock but dont do that....
[01:55] <meganerd> valawas it a gui app or console one that you need to kill?
[01:55] <yoyoned> !lock
[01:55] <Jasonrj> UbuN2: neti2220 : driver installed next line: device (17FE:2220) present.... there is also a warning message before that about all config files need .conf... not sure if that is important. im such a newbie
[01:55] <meganerd> we were all newbies once
[01:55] <valajbeg> iflema,  i know that another one is running but i want to breake it and to unlock repositories
[01:55] <UbuN2> nps Jasonrj
[01:56] <UbuN2> which error u get !
[01:56] <iflema> valajbeg /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:56] <UbuN2> just for config files
[01:56] <dotblank> Everyone is always a newbie
[01:56] <Jasonrj> "WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release."
 AHCI interrupts started climbing and then the box froze. Any crash dump info I can locate ?
[01:58] <UbuN2> ndiswrapper -m
[01:58] <osmosis> using  2.6.24-26-server #1 SMP  on hardy LTS 32bit
[01:58] <AryehGregor> How can we ask that a package be synced from Debian to fix a bug, like <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kernel-package/+bug/498747>?
[01:59] <valajbeg> when i type killall -9 PID
[01:59] <meowbuntu> hi i have ubuntu9.10 and kubuntu9.10 on same droive how come in grub boot losader Kubuntu comes up as Ubuntu when its clearly not ubuntu.
[01:59] <bastid_raZor> osmosis: possibyly aski in #ubuntu-server
[01:59] <AryehGregor> Who's the right person to ask about that?
[01:59] <valajbeg> it says that that process doesn't exist
[01:59] <Jasonrj> UbuN2: I have done that already, it just tells me there is already an alias
[01:59] <iflema> valajbeg sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:59] <UbuN2> then Jasonrj Edit /etc/modules and add "ndiswrapper" as the last line in the file (no quotes).
[01:59] <UbuN2> done this too ^^
[01:59] <bastid_raZor> !gksudo | iflema
[01:59] <osmosis> bastid_raZor, will do
[01:59] <valajbeg> iflema, why whould i edit sourcelist?
[01:59] <iflema> thats the one
[01:59] <phxheat1> I would like to expand my Recent Documents from 10 to about 20 showing in the list. Places>Recent Documents. Can you even change it, Ubuntu9.10
[02:00] <iflema> valajbeg why break lock?
[02:00] <valajbeg> need it to be able to use another app
[02:00] <Admin_> HELP! I can't log on to ubuntu anymore. I installed ubuntu with a minimal install cd and chose autmoatic updates and installed ubuntu-desktop and not I can't log in anymore
[02:01] <meganerd> valajbeg: can you do a ps axf |grep apt
[02:01] <iflema> valajbeg and screw ya system?
[02:01] <meganerd> valajbeg: or possibly grep for dpkg
[02:01] <valajbeg> meganerd, i know the PID
[02:01] <Admin_> After I login to the gdm it says not update ICEauthority file /home/home/.iceauthority
[02:01] <meganerd> valajbeg: just humor me
[02:01] <dlublink> hi
[02:01] <Admin_> and that there is a problem with the configuration server
[02:02] <meganerd> valajbeg: or grep for the pid, I want to see if that process is actually running or we need to clean up a lock file
[02:02] <dlublink> So, I got my dual head card working, unfortunately I don't know C++ well enough to add the missing options to the display applet
[02:02] <meowbuntu> hi i have ubuntu9.10 and kubuntu9.10 on same droive how come in grub boot losader Kubuntu comes up as Ubuntu when its clearly not ubuntu.
[02:02] <Admin_> also that nautilus could not creat certain files inside my home folder
[02:02] <dlublink> *sigh*
[02:02] <valajbeg> look http://paste.ubuntu.com/357826/
[02:02] <meganerd> dlublink: dual head works out of the box for me, on an intel
[02:02] <valajbeg> meganerd, see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/357826/
[02:02] <evon> anyone no how to get the microsoft wireless desktop 3000 working?
[02:02] <meganerd> dlublink: you may also want to look in to xrandr, it is what the display applet uses as a front end
[02:03] <UbuN2> once done Jasonrj reboot !!!
[02:03] <dlublink> meganerd, looks like my radeon 9600 has bad screen detection, so I have a a startup script that sets the proper resolution on the card
[02:03] <Admin_> Valajbeg was that link for me?
[02:03] <valajbeg> no
, see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/357826/
[02:04] <meganerd> valajbeg: try sudo kill -9 <pid>
[02:04] <bastid_raZor> valajbeg: killall is intended for application names .. kill -9 is for PID's
[02:04] <valajbeg> oou
[02:04] <valajbeg> :D
[02:04] <valajbeg> :D
[02:04] <FloodBot3> valajbeg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:04] <valajbeg> :D
[02:04] <valajbeg> THANK YOU
[02:05] <dlublink> here we go
[02:05] <dlublink> http://paste.ubuntu.com/357828/
[02:05] <mike8i8> exit
[02:05] <meganerd> valajbeg: pkill is another app
[02:05] <bastid_raZor> meganerd: good job enormousnerd
[02:05] <iflema> valajbeg killall.... dont break lock? reboot.....
[02:06] <valajbeg> iflema it's ok now
[02:06] <meganerd> valajbeg: sorry, I missed that you were using killall, bastid_raZor was right on the money
[02:06] <valajbeg> iflema had to use kill instead of killall
[02:06] <threethirty> hello all I was wondering if anyone here knows how to unsubscribe from a ical calendar without removing the entire calendar
[02:06] <threethirty> in evolution
[02:06] <valajbeg> thank you very much meganerd, sometimes man get very stupid problem
[02:06] <meganerd> bastid_raZor: I know what I am... lucky to have a GF
[02:07] <meganerd> valajbeg: np, I still remember my early days, long ago tey may be
[02:07] <bastid_raZor> meganerd: just wait till marriage. it gets better.
[02:07] <meganerd> I still have not learned to type :)
[02:07] <meganerd> bastid_raZor: we are skipping marriage for now
[02:08] <valajbeg> meganerd, well : ( unfortunately i'm linux user for a long time but some things i simply have not needed much : /
[02:08] <bastid_raZor> meganerd: you are skipping.. she is just slowly wearing you down.
[02:08] <meganerd> bastid_raZor: actually it was the other way around.  Her and her family are not huge fans of marriage
[02:09] <Jasonrj> UbuN2: I have done that, still no luck
[02:09] <meganerd> valajbeg: I am constantly making problems, so I pick up all of these things out of neccesity
[02:09] <UbuN2> u rebooted
[02:09] <deuterium> re, i've notice 9.10 ships with python-twisted 8.2.x only. how can i (safely/cleanly) install python-twisted v9.0? looks like there are some debs here: http://packages.debian.org/sid/python-twisted
[02:09] <Jasonrj> Yes
[02:10] <Jasonrj> iwconfig still says no wireless extensions
[02:11] <bastid_raZor> deuterium: you may run into dependency errors by just installing the deb, possibly best to find a ppa if one is available
[02:11] <iflema> jasonrj have you layed eyes on this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[02:12] <meowbuntu> hi i have ubuntu9.10 and kubuntu9.10 on same droive how come in grub boot losader Kubuntu comes up as Ubuntu when its clearly not ubuntu.
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  grub dosent care/know - kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde instead of gnome. thats it
[02:12] <chrisd2> Hi, I'm trying to install 8.10 on a dell studio 1535 -- when I try to install I first get a white screen, and then some coloured vertical bars. any ideas?
[02:12] <chrisd2> *9.10
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  theres no real need to have 2 instgalls one for kubuntu and one for ubuntu. You can install both on the same install.
[02:12] <deuterium> bastid_raZor: oh, i just found one: https://launchpad.net/~twisted-dev/+archive/ppa. what does ppa mean?
[02:13] <Jasonrj> iflema: Yes, I have gone through all that, downloaded the correct driver, installed ndiswrapper, but it does not seem to work.
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> !ppa
[02:13] <Ubiedoodie> I cannot detect my usb hp webcam in program such as cheese or skype I see it with lsusb though...help
[02:13] <bastid_raZor> !ppa | Ubiedoodie
[02:13] <bastid_raZor> err.. thanks Dr_Willis
[02:14] <bastid_raZor> Ubiedoodie: that link is not intended for you.
[02:14] <iflema> jasonrj https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/ipn2220 i meant this....
[02:15] <meganerd> Jasonrj: what does "iwconfig" by itself say?
[02:15] <Rubbberducky> Hey I am on ubuntu studio and I use the    SU command then try my password and it doesnt work.  What should I do? I selected the encrypt my home folder option on installation but even the generated key didnt work... Caps lock is off.
[02:15] <Jasonrj> iflema: Yes, have done that
[02:15] <Jasonrj> meganerd: lo no wireless extensions, eth0 no wireless extensions
[02:15] <deuterium> !ppa
[02:15] <Ubiedoodie> ubottu: I don't understand... I just logged in, is there someone with similar problem?
[02:15] <Ubiedoodie> lol
[02:16] <meganerd> Jasonrj: lsmod |grep ndiswrapper"
[02:16] <deuterium> bastid_raZor: ah that's cool :) looks exactly like what i'm looking for..
[02:16] <LordDragon> hi all
[02:16] <bastid_raZor> deuterium: nice, good luck
[02:16] <Ubiedoodie> does anyone have any success with hp webcams in ubuntu 9.04?
[02:16] <Jasonrj> meganerd: that returned ndiswrapper 185404 0
[02:17] <bastid_raZor> !webcam | Ubiedoodie check out these links
[02:17] <LordDragon> i just tried ubuntu netbook remix on this new acer aspire 250 netbook. the compatibility list said the wifi worked however it wont work and i dont see the wifi driver loaded
[02:17] <Quan-Time_> something is stealing my sound process.. i have no sound.. VLC.. ideas ?
[02:17] <meganerd> hmmm, try "sudo rmmod ndiswrapper && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" and then check dmesg
[02:17] <Quan-Time_> something is stealing my sound process.. i have no sound.. VLC.. ideas ?
[02:17] <LordDragon> is the straight ubuntu 9.10 have a better chance of support my netbooks drivers than this netbook remix?
[02:18] <lucky> LordDragon: as i understand it, they have exact same drivers
[02:18] <lucky> LordDragon: there's just a different UI
[02:18] <iflema> LordDragon System / Administration / Hardware Drivers.... look in there.....
[02:18] <meganerd> LordDragon: 9.10 has a newer kernel, the netbook release is a version or two old IIRC. I am running 9.10 vanilla on my netbook
[02:18] <LordDragon> oh i thought the remix had atom optomized kernel and other netbook drivers
[02:19] <v3n0x> hello
[02:19] <LordDragon> iflema, i went there and it says "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[02:19] <Jasonrj> meganerd: dmesg returns some errors saying it could not load.. oh my god "kernel is 32-bit but windows driver is not 32-bit..." Does that mean I tried a 64bit driver?
[02:19] <meganerd> Jasonrj: sounds like
[02:19] <Jasonrj> meganerd: wow, thanks
[02:20] <meganerd> Jasonrj: np, I used to suffer through ndiswrapper... I am now no longer afflicted by it
[02:20] <UbuN2> lol
[02:20] <Jasonrj> meganerd: I'm strongly considering buying a new laptop at this moment
[02:20] <iflema> LordDragon in terminal lspci -v | less  look for ya card type.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/
[02:20] <meganerd> Jasonrj: there was a time when I knew a whole lot about it (like 4 years ago)
[02:20] <Jasonrj> and running this one over with my truck
[02:20] <deuterium> bastid_raZor: thanks, but a quick question: to use this ppa (https://launchpad.net/~twisted-dev/+archive/ppa) in lenny, do i need to add "hardy main" in sources.list or should i change the according line to "lenny main"?
[02:21] <meganerd> Jasonrj: I have a Dell Latitude e6400 that I am simply in love with
[02:21] <chrisd2> Hi, when I try to install 9.10 I get a white screen and then coloured bars down my screen, after some searching, I'm told this is due to "KMS being turned off for Radeon cards" in the latest kernel. Apparently installing it fixes it, how do I get the install working with KMS?
[02:21] <relik1> does anyone know why i cant install updates in Karmic
[02:21] <bastid_raZor> deuterium: no idea about debian, probably need to ask in #debian
[02:21] <meganerd> Jasonrj: the only downside is that it does not ship with a high performance video card, Intel or slow ass Quatro
[02:22] <meganerd> relik1: no idea, you may wish to tell us the error first :)
[02:22] <iflema> LordDragon https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[02:22] <meganerd> Jasonrj: there is a Dell studio with a radeon supported by the open source driver with a core i7 proc that is pretty sweet
[02:22] <deuterium> bastid_raZor: err.. sorry, i meant if i use it on ubuntu karmic, not debian lenny. do need to set "karmic main" instead of "hardy main"?
[02:22] <meganerd> Jasonrj: a friend of mine has it, though he mostly wastes time with Windows 7 and WoW
[02:23] <LordDragon> iflema, gonna delete UNR and try the straight version
[02:23] <relik1> i go to install update and it doesnt do anything, so i did it thru terminal and get "E:  Couldn't find package update"
[02:23] <Jasonrj> meganerd: Sounds interesting, thanks for the info
[02:23] <iflema> LordDragon youve got it allready.... have a look at ubuntu9.10/moblin remix
[02:23] <meganerd> Jasonrj: np, I have learned a lot over the years about hardware to avoid... of course I always learn the lesson too late :)
[02:24] <bastid_raZor> deuterium: if the ppa offers a karmic version, then yes but it should be telling you that it is offering karmic and/or hardy on the page
[02:24] <iflema> LordDragon http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-moblin-remix/releases/9.10/release/
[02:24] <meganerd> Jasonrj: I am also a fan of Lenovos, I have an old x41 tablet running 9.10 that I also quite like
[02:24] <deuterium> bastid_raZor: looks like it offers a hardy version only. risky to try on a karmic?
[02:24] <bastid_raZor> deuterium: yes.
[02:25] <Jasonrj> meganerd: I've heard a lot of good about Lenovo, I might have to look into that too
[02:25] <deuterium> bastid_raZor: what can happen, worst case? can't i just uninstall installed packages again, if something goes wrong?
[02:25] <meganerd> Jasonrj: I am a fan
[02:26] <bastid_raZor> deuterium: worst could happen is you get your packages in an unrepairable state.. mixing repo's is the fastest way to break your system.
[02:26] <osmosis> Any ideas on what to do if  /dev/ipmi  doesnt exist and it should?
[02:27]  * kwtm is waiting for Lucid so I can *finally* get Long-Term Support after 4 years.
[02:27] <LordDragon> iflema, whats that?
[02:27] <LordDragon> that link?
[02:28] <edson> somebody use laptop dell inspiron 1440?
[02:28] <osmosis> edson, yah i got one of those . the one that came with ubuntu
[02:28] <deuterium> bastid_raZor: oops. amazingly, the text on https://launchpad.net/~twisted-dev/+archive/ppa implies that this ppa should work on karmic, though the ppa has a hardy version only. strange.
[02:29] <sabgenton> I damionized hostpad with hostapd -B
[02:29] <Copter> whats the screen command to go back to Attached screen?
[02:29] <sabgenton> how do i stop it
[02:29] <LordDragon> whats the moblin remix ?
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> Copter:  screen -x or -r or somthing.. see screen --help
[02:29] <kwtm> Copter: you mean "screen -r"?
[02:29] <sabgenton> thinkiing about it now i could just  kill -2 it
[02:30] <bastid_raZor> deuterium: ppa'a are user maintained. me personally would not trust a hardy package in karmic. completely your choice.
[02:30] <sabgenton> is there a proper way?
[02:30] <edson> osmosis, after install ubuntu 9.10, but buttom eject cd-rom no working...
[02:30] <deuterium> bastid_raZor: ok, i create a backup of the whole appliance, then try it. thanks for the warning!
[02:30] <bastid_raZor> deuterium: hope all works out.. good luck.
[02:30] <iflema> LordDragon moblin 2 with an Ubuntu flavour
[02:31] <kwtm> What is the name of the window manager on GNOME Ubuntu, please?  I switched to Compiz, then KWin, and now don't know how to switch back.
[02:31] <kwtm> Is it metacity?  Sawfish?  Neither?
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> edson:  if somthing is accessing the cd, or its mounted. i dont think it will.  try the 'eject' command or the right click menus for the cd.
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> kwtm:  meticity --replace
[02:31] <bastid_raZor> kwtm: metacity --replace
[02:31] <bastid_raZor> Dr_Willis: you and your speed fingers..
[02:31] <kwtm> Dr_Willis, bastid_raZor: Thank you, will try.
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> Yep.
[02:31] <maco> kwtm: metacity, but if you have a decent graphics card, it may use compiz (3d shiny) by default in ubuntu
[02:31] <meganerd> wow you guys are fast
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> !info fusion-icon |  kwtm
[02:32] <bastid_raZor> Dr_Willis: bite your fingernail down to the quick.. that'll slow you donw
[02:32] <iflema> LordDragon UNR and Ubuntu are basically the same thing.... moblin is different.... very.... may not be what you need.... may be.... and wireless 4 me buggy on UNR and flawless on ubuntu/moblin
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> bastid_raZor:  i only type with one hand + 1 finger on the other hand also... :P
[02:32] <merc3nary> hello, can i request some help from anyone?
[02:33] <LordDragon> so then installing ubuntu desktop 9.10 wont have any better luck with wifi driver?
[02:33] <bastid_raZor> Dr_Willis: i must have lag then.. heh
[02:33] <edson> Dr_Willis, existing button eject my laptop dell inspiron 1440, not working.
[02:33] <Jasonrj> meganerd: iwconfig returns wlan0 with all sorts of info, yay :) but accessing the internet still does not work.
[02:33] <kwtm> maco, Dr_Willis, bastid_raZor: tried the command, got about 1,000,001 error messages about Failed to contact config server: possible stale NFS locks due to system crash, or need to enable TCP/IP networking (but I have networking already).
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> edson:  Yes. IF some program has the cd in use/locked it wont work. try the eject command.
[02:33] <edson> Dr_Willis, command eject from shell, working.
[02:33] <meganerd> Jasonrj: you need to actually connect to an AP
[02:34] <iflema> LordDragon in a terminal type lspci -v | more and scroll through with the space bar until you see you wifi card info and reply with that...
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> edson:  eject is always funny to do to a remote box while someone is using it also. :)
[02:34] <meganerd> Jasonrj: does the network manager applet see you wifi device?
[02:34] <kwtm> maco, Dr_Willis, bastid_raZor: is there some lock file I should delete or something to get metacity behaving?
[02:34] <kwtm> maco: I did install compiz before, then switched to KDE 3 (then KDE 4 to make some settings and then back to KDE 3), and now when I try GNOME the windows have no borders or "close" buttons.
[02:34] <merc3nary> I'm having trouble installing 9.10, does anyone know why my screen would be flashing during install? Or why the installer wont detect my filesystem?
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> kwtm:  id just log out/back in to gnome. and use teh fusion icon program to manager what WM to use
[02:35] <keepsake> What's the equivalent of /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libsane.rules in karmic?
[02:35] <meganerd> Jasonrj: gotta run, if you see me later I would be happy to help
[02:35] <kwtm> Dr_Willis: when I click the Compiz Settings manager, nothing happens (program fizzles).  WHen I run from cmd-line, it complains that some python settings library are the wrong version.
[02:35] <Jasonrj> meganerd: How do I access network manager applet? (I removed the top panel which had that icon as well as the menus and clock, I moved them to the panel on the bottom but did not see the network icon to re-add)
[02:36] <Jasonrj> meganerd: ok, np
[02:36] <meganerd> Jasonrj: right click the bar, and add it
[02:36] <kwtm> Dr_Willis: Is using fusion-icon necessary just to start the GNOME win manager?  I just want a working window manager.
[02:36] <meganerd> Jasonrj: alt-f2 then type nm-applet
[02:36] <keepsake> kwtm: Try running metacity --replace
[02:37] <merc3nary> can anyone please help me out?
[02:37] <maco> kwtm: no it just makes switching around easier
[02:37] <kwtm> keepsake: Hi.  I see you are late to this discussion.  I did run metacity --replace and got a bazillion "socket /tmp/dbus-blablabla COnnection Refused" errors.
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> kwtm:  i dont know what all youve done or messed with. proberly easiest to just log out and start with a clean slate
[02:37] <keepsake> kwtm: Ah
[02:37] <Jasonrj> meganerd: Thanks for all the help
[02:37] <kwtm> Dr_Willis: I'm sorry I didn't make it clear.  I *am* logging out and back in to GNOME.
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> kwtm:  it sounds like some of the gnome services are not starting up then. or somthing else goofy. how did you get in such a mess?
[02:38] <keepsake> What's the equivalent of /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libsane.rules in karmic? >>
[02:38] <Copter> i installed java jdk. how do i figure out where it installed it to ?
[02:38] <kwtm> Dr_Willis: should I... reboot??  (gasp!)  As I mentioned before, I installed KDE3 and turned off Compiz, and that's how this happened.
[02:39] <kwtm> Dr_Willis: is there some way to purge /tmp/dbus-whatever?  Hmm....
[02:39] <kwtm> Am rebooting (my other computer, not this one).
[02:39] <maco> kwtm: maybe system -> preferenes -> appearance still thinks it should be using compiz?
[02:40] <kwtm> maco: Will try.  Say, KDE works, so maybe I'
[02:40] <kwtm> maco: maybe I'll go into KDE and then run metacity --replace?      I feel the same way about Windows at times, unable to do things which would be simple on Linux.
[02:42] <rww> Craig_Dem: stay on-topic, please
[02:42] <kwtm> maco, Dr_Willis: I'm using KDE, and all KDE3/4 programs work fine, and all GTK progs like Firefox, Synaptic, etc. show up with TEENSY font (size 7).  Can I just edit some .gnome-fonts-rc file?
[02:42] <soreau> ! ops | Cop
[02:42] <maco> kwtm: i dont know. i use kde :P
[02:42] <rww> soreau: copter left already.
[02:43] <apipkin> hello all! I just installed ubuntu 9.10 and was curious if there was a tutorial somewhere on how to set up a php/zend framework developer environment? i've been searching and havent found anything relating to ubuntu 9.10 desktop
[02:43] <kwtm> lucky, Copter's been banned.  He doesn't even hear what you say.
[02:43] <jami> After updating to 9.10 every window opens in fullscreen mode without any borders
[02:43] <rww> kwtm: no he hasn't
[02:43] <soreau> rww: Oh good I thought it was yet another auto-tab #ubuntu fail ;)
[02:43] <lucky> kwtm: yes, i noticed that, i hit enter before i saw the part message :P
[02:43] <maco> kwtm: banned? he left of his own free will
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> kwtm:  run the gnome-settings service perhaps.
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> kwtm:  i also seem tor ecall some kde settings to tell gtk apps to use the kde fonts/settings
[02:44] <kwtm> maco, rww: Oh, I see now that FloodBot3 removed the auto-ban on Copter
[02:44] <rww> kwtm: FloodBot quiets tend to be highly temporary :)
[02:45] <pokoloko> anyone know a workaround for grub error Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> and i dident even see Copters actual question.. oh well.. no big loss...
[02:45] <Jose_21> Hi, did anybody get their Sound Card working perfectly but not so with the microphone?
[02:45] <kwtm> maco, Dr_Willis: I think I found the problem.  Will check if I'm right.
[02:46] <jami> apipkin: download zend and put it to the php.ini include_path
[02:46] <apipkin> does it automatically come with mysql and apache installed?
[02:46] <iflema> jose_21 just confirm its not muted? silly i know.
[02:46] <kwtm> maco, Dr_Willis: I ran metacity --replace from a command line that was created long before this X session (ie. from weeks ago) even though I've logged in and out several times.  Maybe it can't connect to the current X-session?
[02:46] <jami> apipkin: no
[02:47] <Joel> Hi guys, I have a question, I think is dumb but I want to make sure I'm doing the right thing: I have a HD which is going to to have
[02:47] <Gnusboy> Hello
[02:47] <jami> apipkin: just install apache2 mysql-server and php5
[02:47] <Joel> 3 partions, ubuntu 32-bits and kubuntu 64-bits, is there a problem sharing the same swap?
[02:47] <rww> Joel: no
[02:47] <apipkin> oh ok jami. thanks
[02:47] <kwtm> Joel: Good question.  I'd love to know, too... I'm guessing yes.
[02:47] <jami> Joel: no
[02:48] <kwtm> rww: no?  Can't share swap?
[02:48] <apipkin> i'll get on that and see how it goes from there :)
[02:48] <rww> kwtm: no, there's not a problem
[02:48] <Gnusboy> I can't install ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10. Both give me erros about a previous install
[02:48] <kwtm> rww: Oh, I see, no problem, able to share swap.  Got it.  As I thought.
[02:48] <Joel> rww jami no?
[02:48] <apipkin> first time i'm committed to actually giving ubuntu a try
[02:48] <rww> Joel: You can use one swap partition for a dualboot between Ubuntu and Kubuntu with no problems.
[02:49] <rww> oh, wait, maybe one problem
[02:49] <bastid_raZor> Gnusboy: choose to format the partition during the install
[02:49] <Joel> rww: even 32 VS 64 bits?
[02:49] <zetheroo1> anyone here have experience with uploading vids to YouTube?
[02:49] <Gnusboy> I have a corrupted install of Ubuntu 9.04
[02:49] <rww> Joel: If you use hibernate, you need to make sure to boot back into whichever OS hibernated when you start up again. That's about it.
[02:49] <rww> Joel: no, 32bit vs. 64bit doesn't matter.
[02:50] <Joel> rww, ok, thanks :)
[02:50] <jami> apipkin: there are two php.ini's /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini and /etc/php5/cli/php.ini. You must set the path to Zend/library in both of them
[02:50] <Gnusboy> RaZor: When I try to re-install I do the format partition, but locks up
[02:51] <Gnusboy> when I do a re-install I format the partition, but it locks up
[02:51] <bastid_raZor> Gnusboy: from the liveCD install gparted (if it is not already installed) then format the partition yourself. then try the install
[02:51] <jami> Gnusboy: did you run fsck?
[02:52] <Gnusboy> RaZor: When I do a re-install it shows several partions
[02:52] <pawan> hi
[02:52] <duckwars> can anyone tell me why I copy files through ssh over my local area network that I can only go about 130k/s? is there some way to speed it up?
[02:52] <iflema> Gnusboy fsck, force it, try to recover
[02:53] <tmg1|fwtaylor> duckwars how big are the files?
[02:53] <ZenGuy311> what are soe good pdf readers with bookmarking fucntionalitys
[02:53] <Gnusboy> RaIt won't run Fsck
[02:53] <tmg1|fwtaylor> and how powerful are the computers?
[02:53] <duckwars> mostly movies and stuff, between 100mb-1gb
[02:53] <tmg1|fwtaylor> and are you using scp or some other method?
[02:53] <Gnusboy> I tried a complete new partition but it locks up
[02:53] <duckwars> but I mean, I can download things off the internet faster than I can ssh into my linux box, this confuses me
[02:53] <duckwars> I'm using cyber duck
[02:53] <duckwars> does scp show the rate of download?
[02:53] <jami> what is that
[02:54] <tmg1|fwtaylor> yeah
[02:54] <jami> yes
[02:54] <duckwars> cyber duck is a os x ssh program
[02:54] <jeeez> is there someway i can unselect all entries in the update manager windows? [instead of having to click a 100 times] {slow net connection, prefer doing a few updates at a time!}
[02:54] <duckwars> does anyone wanna give me the general format for the scp command, otherwise I will google it
[02:54] <tmg1|fwtaylor> osx has scp
[02:54] <tmg1|fwtaylor> i'm pretty sure
[02:54] <duckwars> it does, i've done it before
[02:54] <duckwars> one moment
[02:54] <tmg1|fwtaylor> scp files username@host:~/location (-r)
[02:54] <icedtea`> does anyone know how to change how sensitive the scrollwheel is in gnome apps/xorg
[02:55] <jami> man scp
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  general format is same as 'cp'  thats how its designed
[02:55] <tmg1|fwtaylor> flags might need to go first
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  see 'scp --help'
[02:55] <Darkebrz> If I format my C drive, will I have to reinstall Ubuntu?
[02:55] <Gnusboy> RaZor: it shows several partitions. I do the use all harddrive format, but when I continue the install it locks up
[02:55] <Darkebrz> (It is on a partition of my C drive)
[02:55] <jeeez> right, i just had to double click on the title!
[02:55] <iflema> Gnusboy in  live environment (live cd) on the unmounted drive do in a terminal this.. fsck -f /dev/[sdWhatEver], force it, try to recover
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Darkebrz:   You mean you have ubuntu installed via WUBI on a windows partition?
[02:56] <Darkebrz> Dr_Willis, nope off of a disk.
[02:56] <done365> Good Evening, I need some help getting my VLC and gnome working together to play video with out the video stopping.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Darkebrz:  if you delete a windows aprtition it shouldent affect a normally installed ubuntu system.
[02:56] <bastid_raZor> Gnusboy: follow iflema's advice.
[02:56] <Darkebrz> Okay then. Just making sure.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Darkebrz:  if you resize  the partitions it MIGHT goof up the UUID's of the other filesystems
[02:57] <paragonc> im trying to install ubuntu 9.04 - when i put in the cd - i get an x error when clicking Install Ubuntu - it drops me at a command line - is there a way to start an ncurses based installer?
[02:57] <jeeez> and someone can suggest a good pdf reader? [what are my alternatives?]
[02:57] <jami> done365: did you start vlc in a terminal
[02:57] <iflema> bastib_raZor he may have screwed it...
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Darkebrz:  if you reinstall windows.  Windows will overwrite the MBR
[02:57] <Cabrobra> how can i turn the sound ON in Ubuntu 9.04?
[02:57] <done365> jami: No, I started in gnome
[02:57] <Darkebrz> Dr_Willis, wha?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> jeeez:  i just use the default in Ubuntu for PDF> i forget what its even called. I rarely install the adobe one,.
[02:57] <Gnusboy>  RaZor: The error msg I get is "error removing ubiquity-frontend-gtk subprocess pre-removal script returned erro exit status 139
[02:58] <Cabrobra> como posso aumentar o volume no Ubuntu 9.04? Ta muito baixo
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Darkebrz:  Reinstalling windows or not? If yes.. then Windows install process will take over the MBR and erase GRUB.
[02:58] <jeeez> Dr_Willis: evince i guess?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> jeeez:  proberly that one. :) i recall kde has one also ive used.
[02:58] <XDS> Does anyone need a blippy invite ?
[02:58] <Gnusboy> I tried Fsck - it will not run
[02:58] <done365> I have googled this and it seems to be a common problem with no clear solution
[02:58] <Darkebrz> Dr_Willis, would Ubuntu still show up on the Windows MBR?
[02:58] <jami> done365: start it in a terminal and you will see the error
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if foxit reader ever started on their linux version anuy more.
[02:58] <XDS> How many users are in here ?
[02:58] <XDS> Does anyone need a blippy invite ?
[02:58] <gbear14275> I'm looking for a ppa with virt-manager 8.2... anyone know, or use virtualization with the latest virt-manager versions?
[02:58] <XDS> cripts
[02:59] <bazhang> XDS, wrong channel
[02:59] <maco> XDS: not on topic
[02:59] <done365> Jami: will this error show in the terminal or in a log?
[02:59] <XDS> eat me
[02:59] <iflema> Gnusboy boot the live cd... try gparted... try fsck-f first unless youve messing around with different methods....
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> Darkebrz:  hard drives have a boot loader in the  MBR windows will write its own loader there. or ubuntu puts grub there.
[02:59] <maco> but you dont look very tasty...
[02:59] <gbear14275> I'm really hoping to figure out how to get virt-manager 8.2 installed... anyone have any tips, the forums and google are offering limited help
[02:59] <Gnusboy> iflema: "error removing ubiquity-frontend-gtk subprocess pre-removal script returned erro exit status 139
[02:59] <gbear14275> I tried building the package myself but when I installed it, a python dependency failed
[02:59] <jami> done365: my vlc did it
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> gbear14275:  check for PPA repos of it?
[03:00] <iflema> Gnusboy from live cd with gparted?
[03:00] <Darkebrz> Dr_Willis, so if I format then install Windows I will not be able to boot into Ubuntu?
[03:00] <XDS> k sry ill stay on topic
[03:00] <duckwars> okay, using scp i get about 182 k/s
[03:00] <jami> done365: or look for an verbosity flag
[03:00] <icedtea`> Cabrobra, did you check the volume settings in the system tray (by the clock)
[03:00] <gbear14275> Dr_Willis: I've tried looking in a few...  and was hoping maybe someone had a suggested one.  Never worked with untrusted PPA's before
[03:00] <paragonc> has anyone tried to install ubuntu from the cds command line installer?
[03:00] <duckwars> it's weird too, because if I am scp'ing by itself i get about 180kb/s but if I have multiple going they will each go that fast
[03:00] <iflema> Gnusboy not the installl... one can load the entire desktop off the cd...
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> Darkebrz:  formating has nothing to do with it.. WINDOWS installer will overwrite the MBR. If  you have 2 hard drives.. You could put the ubuntu grub on the ubuntu hard drive.. and let windows keep on its own hd. Unplug the ubuntu HD when you install windiows.
[03:01] <XDS> Has anyone seen or heard from s9 , he/she was working on a  HVR driver for Ubuntu :-/
[03:01] <paragonc> i cant seem to get it to start installing - startx fails
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> Darkebrz:  then use the bios menus to pick what HD to boot.
[03:01] <Gnusboy> iflema: Seems like everything on 9.04 freezes. and 9.10 will not instal from scratch either
[03:01] <done365> Jami: thanks will look to see if it outputs an error code during the event.
[03:02] <duckwars> anyone have any ideas how I can speed up my ssh over my LAN?
[03:02] <iflema> Gnusboy it is wise to try in a live environment first... have you done this with success with 9.10?
[03:02] <Gnusboy> Ok, I will try that and see. I'm sure I tried it before with no luck
[03:02] <abumaia> if I try to install ubuntulooks, it tells me that it will uninstall gnome-desktop.  can I do without gnome-desktop, or will that bork my system?
[03:02] <Cabrobra> icedtea': yes! itś in maximum
[03:02] <bazhang> abumaia, ubuntu-desktop?
[03:03] <iflema> Gnusboy while ya there and theres no probs.... gparted the corrupted drive
[03:03] <GSF1200S> if I wanted to have rsync recursively delete files/directories, would I do rsync -avh --delete-recursive /path/to/source /path/to/destination?
[03:03] <Gnusboy> iflema: it will boot with CD but not without
[03:03] <gbear14275> Dr_Willis: this link https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virt-manager has a couple updated versions at the bottom of the page... is there a way to search the rest of the ppa's for a specific version of virt-manager?  I tried clicking the link but it did not show which versions were in the ppa's
[03:03] <Spirits-Sight> any advice on getting a windows ce device to appear as drive and sycn with evolotion?
[03:03] <paddymullen> how do I get ubuntu to run an xinitrc or xsession file in my home directory
[03:03] <abumaia> my bad, ubuntu-desktop, yes
[03:03] <icedtea`> Cabrobra: I have to ask this, did you make sure your headphones/speakers are plugged in?
[03:03] <jami> Again. Did somebody knows about weird 9.10 migration behaviour. All windows open in fullscreen mode and that sucks, I tried to remove .gnome* from my home but the settings are still there
[03:04] <Gnusboy> iflema: Live environment =
[03:04] <boss_mc> abumaia: ubuntu-desktop is not needed, it's just the meta-package that depends on the default ubuntu packages, removing it is safe, so long as it doesn't try to remove other things at the same time
[03:04] <bazhang> abumaia, sure it s just a metapackage, safe to remove
[03:04] <iflema> Gnusboy so the error message you gave before was from live cd with gparted?
[03:04] <maco> paddymullen: make sure it's executable, and then when you login, choose "Run Xclient script" instead of "GNOME" or what-have-you
[03:04] <gbear14275> Dr_Willis: nvm... there are only 18... I can go through them by hand
[03:04] <Gnusboy> I don't know for sure. I've been at it for a week
[03:04] <abumaia> it lists ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-artwork and human-theme
[03:04] <Cabrobra> icedtea': yes! itś in maximum
[03:04] <iflema> Gnusboy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
[03:05] <LordDragon> iflema, ok i did that command. the result for network controller is "Broadcom Corp BCM4312 802.11B/G
[03:05] <Gnusboy> iflema: I will try it all again and see what happens. At this point I'm ready to clean HD and go from there
[03:05] <Cabrobra> icedtea': sorry... yes! In youtube i can listen good.. but seeing movies with totem, the sound is not great
[03:05] <LordDragon> kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge
[03:05] <jami> Gnusboy: either your memory or your disk is corrupt.
[03:06] <duckwars> what kind of speeds should I be recieving over my wireless local area network when I scp things?
[03:06] <Gnusboy> jami: hardware seems fine -
[03:06] <icedtea`> Cabrobra: sorry, don't know then.  :(
[03:06] <iflema> LordDragon tooo easy in synaptic package manager search for and install bcmwl-kernel-source then go to System / Administration / Hardware Drivers and activate
[03:06] <jami> duckwars: if you have a cheap wlan router than thats the max
[03:07] <duckwars> jami: I have a snazzy airport
[03:07] <paddymullen> where does the option for run xclient script comeup?
[03:07] <iflema> LordDragon you may need to open the restricted repo
[03:07] <abumaia> boss_mc: it lists ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-artwork and human-theme to uninstall when installing gnomelooks
[03:07] <duckwars> jami: also, if the router were the chokepoint, why can I get files from the internet so much faster?
[03:07] <tmg1|fwtaylor> is there any particular reason not to wildly increase max-specpdl-size in emacs?
[03:07] <LordDragon> iflema, ok let me try that now
[03:07] <abumaia> gah..ubuntulooks
[03:07] <jami> duckwars: cause they are not encrypted
[03:07] <Gnusboy> jami: Ok. I will try again with another new Live Cd
[03:08] <Gnusboy> Back later. Tahnks
[03:08] <tmg1|fwtaylor> duckwars: your typical speeds for that network, maybe 90% of that at worst?
[03:08] <jami> Gnusboy: check the memory first
[03:08] <tmg1|fwtaylor> although for small files you might lose some to setting up of connections etc
[03:08] <duckwars> 90% of what?
[03:08] <tmg1|fwtaylor> whatever you normally get
[03:08] <Cabrobra> somebody give another video player to Ubuntu 9.04, without be Totem
[03:08] <Gnusboy> jami: I did mem check its ok. I will run it again
[03:08] <LordDragon> iflema, the only thing comes up inthe search is "bcmwl-modaliases". do i need internet access to get these proper drivers?
[03:09] <boss_mc> abumaia: you'll not be able to use the human theme (but I doubt you want to as your installing a new theme), other than that there should be no problem
[03:09] <tmg1|fwtaylor> I scp stuff across the network all the time and get pretty much whatever the network is capable of consistently, i barely notice the overhead, ymmv
[03:09] <abumaia> thanks boss
[03:09] <duckwars> well... I'm not sure what my maximum is from router to computer though, I donwload up to 1mb/s from the internet
[03:09] <trevski> Calrobra VLC
[03:09] <tmg1|fwtaylor> if "from the internet" includes "from router to computer" you should be getting that much
[03:10] <boss_mc> abumaia: np
[03:10] <tmg1|fwtaylor> but upload speed might be different, etc etc
[03:10] <iflema> LordDragon System / Administration / Software Sources enable the restricted repo..
[03:10] <duckwars> precisely, so why can i only get 180kb/s from my server on my own LAN?
[03:10] <iflema> LordDragon https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[03:10] <boss_mc> Cabrobra: mplayer, vlc
[03:11] <tmg1|fwtaylor> also keep in mind your router might be measuring 1mbps in megabits and scp probably measures things in MegaBytes (MiB) / KiloBytes /Kibobytes or whatever
[03:11] <nellmathew> hey guys i was wonder what the other options were with ext4, largefile, largefile4, newsfile?.. i'm trying to make a separate partition for /boot, wanted it to be for small files
[03:11] <tmg1|fwtaylor> so it's not 180kb/s but 180*8 or about 1Mbit
[03:11] <adac> How can I add more then one local path on rsync on command line?
[03:11] <deuterium> any idea what's the best way of installing a python library from source? i'm thinking of sth like "stow python setup.py install", but i'm not sure whether that is advisable?
[03:11] <done365> jami: I did get a message after the error.  "QOObject: :startTimer:  QTimer cannot have a negative interval" if you know what that means
[03:11] <LordDragon> iflema, "proprietary drivers for devices (restricted)" is already checked in "software sources"
[03:12] <tmg1|fwtaylor> (180KiB/s on scp means 1.440 Mbit/sec)
[03:12] <duckwars> hrm... but..... still I should be able to exchange more than 1mb/s just around my local area network shouldn't I? I can't even stream a movie without hiccups over sshfs
[03:12] <keepsake> Installed some scanner drivers, and now gtk-window-decorator doesn't autostart (and metacity isn't starting either). Everything worked fine before. Any ideas?
[03:12] <tmg1|fwtaylor> you can probably give scp a flag to change what kind of kilobytes it uses
[03:12] <iflema> LordDragon oh what version are you 9.10
[03:12] <LordDragon> yes 9.10
[03:12] <iflema> LordDragon bcmwl-kernel-source
[03:12] <LordDragon> 9.10 desktop
[03:13] <Daugha|n> whats the gui package for samba?
[03:13] <LordDragon> so i should be able to type sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source ?
[03:13] <iflema> LordDragon yes
[03:13] <gmachine_24> If I am looking at a folder with symbolic links in it, what is the command to find the path that those links are to...? I'm not explaining this very well - it's something like >read libjavaplugin_oji.so
[03:14] <LordDragon> iflema, says it cant find that package
[03:14] <NotTooSmart> duckwars, only 1mb on lan?
[03:14] <duckwars> yea
[03:14] <jami> done365: and nothing else? did you run vlc -v 2 /path/foo.avi
[03:14] <tmg1|fwtaylor> NotTooSmart 1.4mbit on wireless
[03:14] <iflema> LordDragon and restricted repo is activated... and you typed bcmwl-kernel-source
[03:14] <NotTooSmart> I get about 2.8mb/s on wireless G
[03:14] <jami> gmachine_24: ls -l
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  for transfer speeds.. sshfs may be sluggish since its encrypted data. Ive not noticved any problems wih it on my local lan.. of course on a local lan NFS/samba would proberly be faster.
[03:15] <NotTooSmart> duckwars, yea like dr.willis says, that 2.8mb is on samba
[03:15] <gmachine_24> jami, as in    > ls -l libjavaplugin_oji.so ............?
[03:15] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: what about AFP?
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  nfs should be faster then samba,   No idea what you mean by AFP
[03:15] <poningru> j #deluge
[03:16] <LordDragon> iflema, i went to software sources, and inthe list of downloadable from the internet it says "proprietary drivers for devices (restricted)'
[03:16] <lucky> i found with a pentium 2 i was limited to about 1 MB/s  copying as sshd was pinned to 100% CPU for the encryption
[03:16] <LordDragon> do i need internet access to download the right drivers?
[03:16] <NotTooSmart> duckwars, if you use all linux/unix machines you can use NFS
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> LordDragon:  normally yes.
[03:16] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: Apple File Protocol, but I kidn of what encryption right, what if I am contacting the computer through the internet
[03:16] <gmachine_24> jami, OK. You're right. Thanks.
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  through the internet - You proberly better stick to sshfs then. and just deal with the speeds
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  you could use straight ftp i guess.. but thats not as secure.
[03:17] <iflema> LordDragon yes ristricted component if your on 9.10 sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[03:17] <duckwars> in scp it is saying 180 KB/s.  IS that kilobytes, or kilabites, or which one?
[03:17] <duckwars> this confuses me
[03:17] <kwtm> duckwars: Isn't KB with capital B "bytes" and lower case "b" would be bits?
[03:18] <duckwars> I have no idea
[03:18] <Jeruvy> kwtm: the other way around actually
[03:18] <dwoodard> kwtm, i think so
[03:18] <duckwars> which is the standard one a web browser would use?
[03:18] <SlowpokeBwaah> kwtm: Yes
[03:18] <LordDragon> iflema, ok done. its installing now
[03:18] <iflema> woooo
[03:18] <LordDragon> iflema, after it installs, how do i activate it ?
[03:18] <daftykins> Jeruvy: lol no it's not, KB= kilobyte Kb = Kilobit
[03:19] <iflema> LordDragon System / Administration / Hardware Drivers..... or scroll up and see what i posted earlier ;)
[03:19] <jami> kibibyte
[03:19] <duckwars> so I'm really going at 180KB/s
[03:19] <duckwars> this is super slow
[03:19] <daftykins> jami for 1024 bytes ja ;)
[03:19] <jami> :-P
[03:19] <nafi> i need ubuntu teme
[03:19] <duckwars> i have to go
[03:19] <duckwars> thanks
[03:20] <nafi> i need ubuntu theme
[03:20] <gbear14275> ok... if I still have a .deb file... is there a way to reverse the commands it ran?  I would like to "uninstall" a .deb
[03:20] <iflema> duckwars hey ive only 165 max
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> nafi:  so?
[03:20] <bazhang> nafi, go to gnome-look.org for themes
[03:20] <keepsake> !themes > nafi
[03:20] <NotTooSmart> gbear14275, i believe you can still sudo apt-get remove programname
[03:20] <Ronald_Regan> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu and I have a microphone
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> gbear14275:  use the pacakge manager tools to uninstall the pacakge.
[03:20] <Tuxguy> Anyone use the cheese webcam tool? It takes pictures and videos, but the display panel doesnt show me live
[03:20] <kwtm> Jeruvy: Hmm, looks like dwoodard and SlowpokeBash agree with me.  I always thought it was "big B" means bigger (a byte is bigger than a bit)
[03:20] <LordDragon> iflema, ok i found 2 drivers. broadcom b43 and broadcom sta
[03:20] <LordDragon> which do i choose?
[03:20] <Ronald_Regan> How would I make a video showing my Ubuntu desktop and be talking about it at the same thing
[03:20] <Ronald_Regan> I want to make a tutorial of Ubuntu.
[03:21] <Jeruvy> daftykins: ah I read that wrong, your correct
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> Ronald_Regan:  the 'record my desktop' app can do that.
[03:21] <bazhang> !screencast | Ronald_Regan
[03:21] <gbear14275> Dr_Willis: NotTooSmart:  This .deb installed an untrusted PPA... but I'm getting some errors afterwards... not sure if it installed any packages
[03:21] <jami> Tuxguy: did you set the video device correct
[03:21] <Ronald_Regan> Dr_Willis: It will let me INput sound and show the desktop at the same time right?
[03:21] <kwtm> Can someone tell me if compiz depends on python before 2.6?  If I have python 2.6 installed, do I have to remove it before running the compiz settings manager?  (It says Undefined Symbol in some library.)
[03:21] <gbear14275> Dr_Willis: NotTooSmart: ref...https://launchpad.net/~dnjl/+archive/virtualization
[03:21] <woodyjlw> I have a magicjack and want to use on ubuntu. will it run with playonlinux or wine?
[03:21] <Jeruvy> kwtm: ya I read that wrong my bad.
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> gbear14275:  check yoru soruces.list file and /etc/apt/sources.d then to see what it added
[03:21] <keepsake> gbear14275, NotTooSmart: Use  "sudo dpkg -r -P <packagename.deb>"
[03:21] <iflema> LordDragon for me sta worked better.... but even better at the time was mobli/ubuntu remix.... things may have changed and ive the 4322
[03:21] <jami> kwtm: which one exactly
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> woodyjlw:  from what i gather.. magicjack wont work in wine.
[03:22] <NotTooSmart> keepsake, thanks gbear14275 follow his advice.
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> woodyjlw:  and playonlinux is just a front end to wine
[03:22] <gbear14275> thanks keepsake... will try it now
[03:22] <kwtm> bazhang: I am impressed by your ability to remember ubotu keywords!
[03:22] <obiwan_> please, how can i check pendent updates?
[03:22] <iflema> LordDragon try sta... try em both
[03:22] <obiwan_> with apt i mean
[03:22] <kwtm> jami: Umm... I'm running Jaunty, had Compiz working, then installed KDE 3 and now no longer.  However, I did upgrade Python to 2.6; wonder if that's related.
[03:23] <obiwan_> or dpkg whatever
[03:23] <woodyjlw> Dr_Willis,  any other way to make it work without installing windows on vbox
[03:23] <keepsake> obiwan_: Why not "update-manager"?
[03:23] <jami> obiwan_: dependencies?
[03:23] <keepsake> obiwan_: If you mean dependencies that's something else =P
[03:23] <obiwan_> i preffer terminal keepsake
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> woodyjlw:  im not even sure it will work in vbox.
[03:23] <jami> kwtm:  (It says Undefined Symbol in some library.) what was the exact message
[03:23] <gbear14275> keepsake: dpkg: conflicting actions -P (--purge) and -r (--remove)
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> woodyjlw:   check the forums perhaps. and the wine app database. there may be some work arounds
[03:23] <LordDragon> iflema, it says for the sta one "this driver is activated but not currently in use>" what does that mean
[03:23] <kwtm> Whoa.  THought I'd remove python and then reinstall, but that removes the whole system!
[03:24] <obiwan_> nope, i don't mean deps jami , i mean what update-manager outputs, but shown with apt or dpkg
[03:24] <gbear14275> keepsake: should i first run -r then -P
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> kwtm:  removeing/reinstalling rarely fix's anything in Linuix.
[03:24] <bastid_raZor> kwtm: apt-get install --reinstall
[03:24] <keepsake> gbear14275: Oh, my bad, use only -P
[03:24] <kwtm> jami: ImportError /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/compizconfig.so: undefined symbol: ccsGetPluginStrExtensions
[03:24] <paddymullen> nope none of that works, i  ran chmod +x, added a shebang #!/bin/bash, and even tried to make a .xsessionrc
[03:24] <keepsake> gbear14275: If that doesn't work then -r
[03:24] <NotTooSmart> gbear14275, sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename
[03:24] <iflema> LordDragon there is another module currently try to run the card... as you posted earlier.... modprobe -r it or reboot
[03:25] <chu_> My copy of MonoDevelop has lost its menu bar, even with a re-install the menu bar hasn't come back :(
[03:25] <kwtm> Dr_Willis: Even if I installed an unofficial python 2.6, which I *think* (not sure) was not done through apt-get?
[03:25] <keepsake> obiwan_: sudo apt-get upgrade does the trick
[03:25] <kwtm> bastid_raZor: Will try.  Thx.
[03:25] <HTT-Bird> hey, I'm building a custom kernel for my box (so I can flashrom the bios), how do I make a new kernel flavor?
[03:25] <gbear14275> keepsake: might have done it wrong but I got this... dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in
[03:25] <blendmaster1024> are there any known workarounds for the cursed broadcom wifi chipsets?
[03:25] <gbear14275> keepsake: should i just use the package name?  I used the path to the file
[03:25] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: which broadcom do you have?
[03:25] <deuterium> using "checkinstall setup python.py install"? (any idea what's the best way of installing a python library from source?)
[03:25] <keepsake> gbear14275: Try that.
[03:25] <kwtm> Oh, wait, Python *is* 2.6 in Jaunty, right?  How can I tell?  Aahhhh I am so mixed up...
[03:26] <blendmaster1024> not sure, last digit is 6, i know that, and i think the last digit is the key digit
[03:26] <Spirits-Sight> anyone able to help with setup windows ce 6 device with Ubuntu?
[03:26] <keepsake> kwtm: "python --version"
[03:26] <MrKeuner> hello, is relatime still the default for ext4 in fstab on karmic?
[03:26] <Andrew33> hi
[03:26] <gbear14275> keepsake: same error :-/
[03:26] <HTT-Bird> kwtm: python --version :)
[03:26] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, I dont know if its the default, but it's not needed.
[03:26] <Andrew33> I was curious: what is ubuntu?
[03:26] <kwtm> keepsake: python --version is indeed 2.6.2.  However, I'm trying to determine if that's the version that came with Jaunty already, or whether I put in a new version myself.
[03:27] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: do a 'lspci -nn | grep 14e4' and paste me the line you get back
[03:27] <bazhang> Andrew33, an operating system
[03:27] <blendmaster1024> Andrew33, wow, you managed to get here without already knowing? you should get a medal, no kidding
[03:27] <LordDragon> iflema, trying a reboot
[03:27] <jami> kwtm: try to reinstall python-compizconfig compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:27] <iflema> LordDragon ok
[03:27] <MrKeuner> NotTooSmart, you nick causing some trust issues but what about noatime?
[03:27] <kwtm> HTT-Bird: I remember that I had upgraded to 2.6 because I needed some python command not present in 2.5
[03:27] <keepsake> kwtm: The version used is 2.6.4 at the moment.
[03:27] <Andrew33> haha thanks
[03:27] <HTT-Bird> kwtm: ah. :)
[03:27] <kwtm> jami: will try Thanks.
[03:27] <blendmaster1024> HTT-Bird, i don't have the system up right now. just generally, are any of the ones that the foss driver doesn't work with workaroundable?
[03:27] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, mine looks like this... /dev/sda1 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
[03:27] <keepsake> gbear14275: Try just using synaptic then >__<
[03:28] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: you can use the Broadcom provided STA driver (wl.o).  YMMSV
[03:28] <kwtm> Oh, I *love* this apt-get install --reinstall option!  It would have saved me so much time before!
[03:28] <MrKeuner> NotTooSmart, I'll also go with that thanks
[03:28] <blendmaster1024> HTT-Bird, seriously?
[03:28] <HTT-Bird> (your milelage may seriously vary)
[03:28] <blendmaster1024> LOL
[03:28] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: it is a binary blob driver, and may or may not work with your card
[03:28] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, simpler <is> better
[03:28] <blendmaster1024> thanks and i know this is a lolfreezone
[03:28] <kwtm> keepsake: I must have been thinking of my laptop, which is running Hardy (because SOMEONE decided that KDE 3 users were to be dragged screaming and kicking into KDE 4!!!!)
[03:28] <LordDragon> yesssssss
[03:29] <HTT-Bird> however, if 4306 rings a bell, you should use b43legacy
[03:29] <gbear14275> keepsake: different q... are the actions a .deb file takes all documented in the terminal you can view as it installs?  I can just reverse those commands couldn't I?  Would that reverse the package install?
[03:29] <LordDragon> you rule iflema !
[03:29] <LordDragon> thanks man
[03:29] <blendmaster1024> HTT-Bird, that would be it.
[03:29] <blendmaster1024> "legacy"...
[03:29] <smegzor> Anyone know if an ATI RX1950Pro is supported by ATI in ubuntu 9.10?  I just installed it and so far like the previous ATI I had, an X300, it is complete rubbish (very fancy and large rubbish).
[03:29] <iflema> LordDragon lastime i fell and broke my crown
[03:29] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: yeah, use b43legacy
[03:29] <keepsake> gbear14275: Not all the actions are documented, but either way, you shouldn't try to uninstall a package that way.
[03:29] <Spirits-Sight> anyone able to help with setup windows ce 6 device with Ubuntu?
[03:29] <blendmaster1024> hmm, is it entirely in the repo?
[03:30] <MrKeuner> NotTooSmart, what about non root partition's entry in fstab?
[03:30] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: yes, it's in the kernel
[03:30] <kwtm> jami: Did not work, same message.  How can I find by cmd-line: which DEB package contains the file /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/compizconfig.so ?
[03:30] <blendmaster1024> Spirits-Sight, i'm sure someone is. but nobody so far has been able to help.
[03:30] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: you can either use the latest fglrx that supports your card, or use radeon
[03:30] <blendmaster1024> HTT-Bird, does b43legacy come preinstalled?
[03:30] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: no clue
[03:30] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, that line can be modified for those too just change the mount point
[03:30] <HTT-Bird> paw through /lib/modules
[03:30] <keepsake> gbear14275: What's the package you're trying to remove?
[03:30] <faileas> any opebox users? I'm running ubuntu karmic with openbox - i'd like to run cairodock and xcompmgr automatically, but when i add it to my openbox autorun file, it seems they start before openbox does
[03:30] <blendmaster1024> thanks. i'll try that.
[03:30] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, and the device obviously
[03:30] <Jeruvy> !find
[03:30] <MrKeuner> errors=remount-ro should not be there no/
[03:31] <blendmaster1024> that factiod is incorrect
[03:31] <MrKeuner> NotTooSmart,  errors=remount-ro should not be there no?
[03:31] <obiwan_> ok so this is the command, apt-get -u upgrade, that shows upgradeable files hehe :) thanks jami and keepsake for your help
[03:31] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, well, I like it since it remounts your date read only if your system goes hay-wire
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> faileas:  make them launch  from a script that has a delay of about 20 sec at the start.
[03:31] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, it helps prevent data loss
[03:31] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: fglrx = ATI proprietary, faster but especially older versions are fragile
[03:31] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, you can remove it if you like
[03:31] <faileas> Dr_Willis: how?
[03:31] <keepsake> obiwan_: You don't need the -u there if you have upgrade, but yes =P
[03:31] <blendmaster1024> you need "find <dir to search> -name <name with shell wildcards>"
[03:31] <gbear14275> keepsake: https://launchpad.net/~dnjl/+archive/virtualization  installation instructions include a .deb file... I think all it did was install the gpg keys though but I'm not sure
[03:31] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: I tried the usual tricks, enabling visual effects (couldn't), and running system/admin/hardware drivers but none were found there either.
[03:31] <faileas> i mean, is there a wait command?
[03:31] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: o.O
[03:31] <horizxon> I completely screwed up my computer by choosing the separate x display option in the nvidia settings program, it made me restart my computer and now both monitors are not showing my desktop. One has a blinking underscore at the top left and thats it. How can I revert whatever that tool did?
[03:32] <jami> kwtm: ldd
[03:32] <MrKeuner> NotTooSmart, don't I need defaults?
[03:32] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> faileas:  make a script.. sleep 20 , command &,  command2 &
[03:32] <HTT-Bird> do you see "Direct rendering: yes"?
[03:32] <keepsake> gbear14275: Yeah, that doesn't install a package unless you manually install one later.
[03:32] <blendmaster1024> faileas, sleep  = wait
[03:32] <HTT-Bird> if you see "Direct rendering: no", you have a broken Mesa/DRI setup
[03:32] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, no many different things will work, its linux not windows, you need what you need.
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> horizxon:  you could move the /etc/X11/xorg.conf somewhere and restart X - with no xorg.conf it shoudl go back to defaults
[03:32] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: it says GLX missing on display..
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> horizxon:  i never want t use the seperate X display feature.
[03:33] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: ok, you are missing Mesa/...
[03:33] <blendmaster1024> wow. ati on linux. don't think anything is worse than that. intel maybe, actually, but it's a close one.
[03:33] <Random832> zsnes crashes with a double free or corruption error when i try to use a joystick device
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> blendmaster1024:  intel i find works much better then ati.. :)
[03:33] <horizxon> thansk ill try it
[03:33] <kwtm> jami: explain.  Do you want me to run the "ldd" command?
[03:33] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: ati on linux isn't that bad with very recent (post AMD) fglrx, or with recent radeon
[03:33] <HTT-Bird> from what I hear at least
[03:33] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: I have a recent driver installer from ATI.  I'll see if there is a newer one first before trying that.
[03:33] <blendmaster1024> Dr_Willis, really? you've got lucky
[03:33] <jami> kwtm: yes
[03:33] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: no, don't use fglrx yet
[03:33] <NotTooSmart> Dr_Willis, nvidia i find works best on ubuntu :-D
[03:33] <MrKeuner> NotTooSmart, ok thank you
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> blendmaster1024:  i see MUCH more problems in here with ATi then i do intel
[03:33] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: your card is supported by the FOSS r300 driver
[03:34] <kwtm> jami: oh, that's the answer to my question!  I see.  Sorry.
[03:34] <HTT-Bird> Dr_Willis: fglrx issues I take it? :d
[03:34] <blendmaster1024> HTT-Bird, oh i see i have to deal with 100% pre-amd
[03:34] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: most of those pre-amd cards should be supported by r300
[03:34] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, no problem
[03:34] <jami> kwtm: ldd will list the dependency of the library
[03:34] <HTT-Bird> which is the Mesa/DRI driver for radeons :D
[03:34] <tjagoda> Had the open sourcing of ATI's specs helped the driver along very much?
[03:34] <tjagoda> Has*
[03:34] <blendmaster1024> HTT-Bird, yes but it's very very bad support. none of my pixel shaders cards work - the system freezes when i try
[03:34] <faileas> Dr_Willis: i'll give that a shot. I'm learning a lot from non standard configs ;p
[03:35] <buttons840> is it going to be possible for me to install grub to my raid, i have a real ide raid controller?
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> tjagoda:  empty promises for teh most part from what ive seen/heard/
[03:35] <blendmaster1024> HTT-Bird, that is unless i'm using nvidia, which i do anytime i possibly can
[03:35] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: heh, *is an nvidia guy*
[03:35] <keepsake> Anyone know how to change the scanner source in xsane?
[03:35] <tjagoda> The intel graphics that came with this system76 work great
[03:35] <tjagoda> even with full desktop effects
[03:35] <HTT-Bird> intel for me is buggy as heck unless I run a really recent mesa
[03:35] <blendmaster1024> HTT-Bird, of course, much better than intel and ati doesn't seem to work
[03:35] <faileas> tjagoda: there's a particular bunch of common cards which have an issue
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> Intel on my netbook works devcently well. :)
[03:36] <faileas> iirc the gma 500s
[03:36] <NotTooSmart> tjagoda, so does my intel dual core laptop
[03:36] <kwtm> jami: Sorry, ldd seems to point to what files I need.  WHat I'm looking for is: /usr/lib/...blabla.../compizconfigsettings.so is contained in the deb package "compiz-settings-kde3" or something.
[03:36] <iflema> tjagoda did they open source... when?
[03:36] <minimec> blendmaster1024: Dr_Willis: I am just testing a radeon 9600 mobility with a 2.6.33-rc4 with the ati driver ppa. Oh lord... it's a miracle...!!!  It's just amazing...
[03:36] <blendmaster1024> Dr_Willis, then your card must be brand-new
[03:36] <keepsake> My hd2400 pro works pretty well with the fglrx drivers from AMD D=
[03:36] <tjagoda> iflema: a long time ago
[03:36] <HTT-Bird> minimec: are you using fglrx or r200/r300?
[03:36] <kwtm> jami: Then I would ask: "which packages depend on compiz-settings-kde3 (or whatever package)"?  and try to find why the library isn't there.
[03:36] <astrojp> Anyone know how to get the iPod Shuffle 'Model A1271' to work on Ubuntu? GTKpod doesn't seem to recognize it.
[03:36] <tjagoda> iflema: you can probably find it with an "open source ati" search on slashdot
[03:36]  * blendmaster1024 goes to bed: nobody say my nick anymore
[03:37] <HTT-Bird> I'm surprised more people don't think of running the r300 stuff, it seems ati = fglrx for most people, which is not true :p
[03:37] <neil1> How can I copy an entire usb (including partitions) to another usb?
[03:37] <HTT-Bird> neil1: dd
[03:37] <HTT-Bird> dd works for any and all devices ;)
[03:37] <minimec> HTT-Bird: ati opensource driver with kms enabled, the mentioned kernel with ati driver ppa...
[03:37] <chrisd2> Hi - I'm trying to boot Ubuntu into text mode, I'm told that's done by choosing 'recovery' at GRUB, but GRUB only shows 'loading grub' and goes straight onto ubuntu. what should i do?
[03:37] <HTT-Bird> you can even dd from/to character specials, not just block devs ;)
[03:38] <NotTooSmart> neil1, sudo dd if=/dev/device1 of=/dev/device2
[03:38] <neil1> HTT-Bird: how would I stucture this command?
[03:38] <neil1> ahh
[03:38] <HTT-Bird> minimec: ah :DDDDD
[03:38] <chrisd2> neil1, man dd
[03:38] <s0l1dsnak3123> neil dd if="" of=""
[03:38] <NotTooSmart> -.-
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> blendmaster1024:  actually its over a year old.
[03:38] <LinuX2half> My computer won't react to disc being inserted
[03:38] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: I'm not sure which of the xserver-xorg drivers I need in synaptic for my RX1950.  I'm tossing between the xserver-xorg-video-radeon or the xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
[03:38] <keepsake> Dr_Willis: " * blendmaster1024 goes to bed: nobody say my nick anymore "
[03:38] <kwtm> jami: Oh, for crying out loud, I didn't install compizconfig-settings-manager-kde3, just the ordinary compizconfig-settings-manager (not KDE3).  Maybe that's it. :P
[03:38] <iflema> tjagoda now its half a dud
[03:39] <HTT-Bird> minimec: speaking of kernels, I have a 2.6.28 source sitting in front of me, how do I make a new target/flavor of kernel?
[03:39] <tjagoda> iflema: only half?
[03:39] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: use radeon, radeonhd isn't what you want
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. Flash is not working now on facebook on Firefox.. but it is on Google Chrome.. how.. odd...
[03:39] <faileas> neil1: the easiest way is to use usb-imagewriter
[03:39] <iflema> tjagoda mmm
[03:39] <HTT-Bird> faileas: dd's still good to know
[03:39] <gbear14275> ok... last question... is there anything I can do about these errors?  Its with that website I think so the answer should be no... just want to check...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/357859/
[03:39] <iflema> tjagoda open good..... ati... well...
[03:39] <smegzor> hmm..  actually I already have that one installed and I don't get accelerated graphics or wobbly windows :(
[03:39] <tjagoda> I miss being able to set questions as solved in answers
[03:39] <faileas> HTT-Bird: if someone knows how to use DD, they won't need to ask ;p
[03:39] <keepsake> gbear14275: You probably need a login to download those files.
[03:39] <minimec> smegzor: http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonhd%3Afeature
[03:40] <HTT-Bird> faileas: true, but it's still good to learn
[03:40] <LinuX2half> Does anyone know how come the my computer won't react to disc such as that.
[03:40] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: is HAL running and polling your removable media drives? (cd/dvd/...)
[03:40] <chu_> Dead CD-drive?
[03:40] <HTT-Bird> if HAL's b0rked, cds won't automount
[03:40] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: can you mount /dev/cdrom manually?
[03:41] <smegzor> Should I try installing the official binary driver from ATI or will that hose my display like it does for the X300?
[03:41] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: don't install the binary driver yet
[03:41] <minimec> HTT-Bird: I do nor understand your question...
[03:41] <jami> smegzor: good luck
[03:41] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: make sure that all your mesa packages are installed and there are no stray bits of fglrx still floating around
[03:42] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: hmm.. well so far I already have the driver you directed me to and the ATI card only gives me a high res display, nothing more.
[03:42] <HTT-Bird> minimec: you know how kernels are '-generic' '-server' ...?
[03:42] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: let me think here...do you have a libGL.so in /usr/lib?
[03:42] <smegzor> I can't complain too hard.  the card was given to me for free.  the last one caught on fire.
[03:42] <NotTooSmart> smegzor, wow, what were you doing lol
[03:42] <kwtm> jami: Darn, still didn't do it even with the -kde3 version installed.
[03:42] <tjagoda> It's never a good day when you have to put out your computer, smegzor. =P
[03:43] <smegzor> nothing.  it was a factory defect on the card.
[03:43] <smegzor> i stopped the comp FAST I can tell you :)
[03:43] <LinuX2half> HTT-bird: here's what I get; http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5cfbed12
[03:43] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: suckish.  anyway, lspci -vv and see if the r300 DRM module loads
[03:43] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: check your syslog
[03:44] <minimec> HTT-Bird: So you wnt to compile a new kernel and give it a special name '-mykernel'?
[03:44] <HTT-Bird> minimec: those are kernel flavors/targets (I'm looking at Kernel/Compile on the wiki)
[03:44] <HTT-Bird> minimec: exactly! :)
[03:44] <tjagoda> I get a bit worried about my fellow community members when I see things like "Ubuntu Satanic Edition" in launchpad. =P
[03:45] <maco> tjagoda: its just a bunch of themes (really great for halloween, i might add)
[03:45] <tjagoda> hah
[03:45] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: http://pastebin.org/77509  I'm not sure if it loaded or not..
[03:45] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: I can't seem to access the file
[03:46] <LinuX2half> HTT-bird: I've tried using gedit /var/log/syslog
[03:46] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: you need to be root (aka use sudo) to read logs
[03:46] <bastid_raZor> LinuX2half: less /var/log/syslog ..works great
[03:46] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: do you have a CrossFire setup?
[03:46] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: smegzor: let me think here...do you have a libGL.so in /usr/lib   YES I do.
[03:46] <keepsake> HTT-Bird, LinuX2half: cat /var/log/syslog works
[03:46] <HTT-Bird> keepsake: yes, I use less myself
[03:47] <minimec> HTT-Bird: hmm... Rather good question. Last time I compiled a kernel, they got something like a '-custom' label, if I remember well. Man that is long time ago... So I have no answer to your question.
[03:47] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: What is crossfire?
[03:47] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: where you have two gfx cards in the same system, working together to render things
[03:47] <smegzor> if you mean video card fire, I had it but uninstalled it recently.
[03:47] <HTT-Bird> I saw you had a secondary gfx adapter in that system for some odd reason...
[03:47] <smegzor> I only have 1 pci-e slot
[03:47] <deuterium> btw "checkinstall python setup.py install" is the best way to install python-twisted from svn source/trunk
[03:47] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: wha?
[03:48] <HTT-Bird> how the heck do you have a secondary graphics adapter then?
[03:48] <hydrozen> anyone has a remote control to recommend thats compatible with linux and not too expensive?
[03:48] <smegzor> I don't
[03:48] <LinuX2half> bastid_raZor, keepsake: thanks
[03:48] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: either that or you have 1 card with 2 GPUs on it
[03:48] <chilicuil> hi there, does anyone know what component is this, http://www.imatica.org/fotos/ubuntu910boot1.jpg ?, I wanna change it, but I don't know what file modify, it appears after I select ubuntu in the grub
[03:48] <smegzor> possibly.  I know nothing about this card except that it is a hated ATI.
[03:48] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: because you definitely have 2 GPUs floating around your system, either that or something else bizarre
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> hydrozen:  you may want to ask in #mythbuntu -  ivwe been looking for one myself. but none seem totally idiot proof..
[03:49] <smegzor> I preferred my NVidia, but that card is the card that burned.
[03:49] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: what should I be looking for?
[03:49] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: look for anything with sr0 in it :)
[03:49] <HTT-Bird> or sg0
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> chilicuil:  thats the usplash screen.  its really not worth messing with. and its a pain to change.
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> !usplash
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> chilicuil:  i think the epidermis tool can help change it
[03:49] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: pastebin the output from lspci -vvnn relating to your second gfx card k?
[03:50] <chilicuil> usplash?, I thought Ubuntu was using XSplash, now Dr_Willis
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> chilicuil:  it is using xsplash
[03:50] <chilicuil> Ok, I'm gonna check it out, thx Dr_Willis
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> chilicuil:  usplash is part of the kernel.. xsplash is right after uisplash
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> xplash is silly also..
[03:50] <xxx_> hello
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> all this work just to keep people from seeing 'text' messages.....
[03:51] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: http://pastebin.org/77513  I'm pretty sure this is just the same output as last time, but here you go.
[03:51]  * xxx_ have to say I like this irssi its good have a pic up of Fergie as my background this works great
[03:51] <matju> how do i pick a dvd speed ? hdparm doesn't work on /dev/cdrom like it used to.
[03:51] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Here's one phase, Jan 16 22:27:47 ubuntu-laptop kernel: [  790.318628] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0
[03:52] <keepsake> Does anyone know how to get xsane to find a scanner that sane-find-scanner finds >>
[03:52] <LinuX2half> Htt-bird; [  790.318647] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0
[03:52] <gbear14275> ok... tried to use the PPA I installed and got these errors... I'm not exactly sure what they are saying... http://paste.ubuntu.com/357862/
[03:52] <yuehai> Does anybody here know how to use blktrace?
[03:53] <darthanubis> where exactly would I put --enable-jack=yes in my debian/rules file to get jack support in gtk-recordmydesktop
[03:53] <PapiChi> I apt-getted obbledooble V2.3.4 then upgraded my dangler and I still can't get the config sys V to run. What is the problem?
[03:53] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: either the disc or the drive is shot
[03:53] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird, here's more http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/m6bd9d834
[03:54] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Today I was trying to burn the image to the DVD but the work splattered.
[03:54] <PapiChi> help please?
[03:54] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: try lurking in #radeon for a while, that's your best bet for help, your configuration seems...quite bizarre tbh, I have NO clue what the 2nd device is doing floating about
[03:54] <PapiChi> I apt-getted obbledooble V2.3.4 then upgraded my dangler and I still can't get the config sys V to run. What is the problem? The error --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[03:55] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: can you try with a known good disc?
[03:55] <gbear14275> Can anyone tell me what these errors mean? http://paste.ubuntu.com/357862/
[03:55] <Random832> how do i turn keyboard repeat on and off?
[03:55] <Random832> it got turned off when a game crashed
[03:55] <HTT-Bird> Random832: globally or just in one xterm?
[03:55] <Random832> globally
[03:55] <HTT-Bird> in one xterm, 'stty sane' usually fixes things
[03:55] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Good Disc? Well the live CD won't be recognized but it can be booted from.
[03:55] <Random832> no it's an x issue
[03:55] <PapiChi> I apt-getted obbledooble V2.3.4 then upgraded my dangler and I still can't get the config sys V to run. What is the problem? The error --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[03:55] <Random832> xev has the same problem
[03:56] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: thanks for your help
[03:56] <HTT-Bird> globally, try wiggling the setting for keyboard repeat some
[03:56] <Random832> is there a command line tool for this?
[03:56] <PapiChi> Please help
[03:56] <Random832> i'd also like to turn it off sometimes in the future, for playing flash games
[03:56] <sjd> hey. I came to look help on my bluetooth
[03:56] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: you can try fglrx if you wish, but I'd recommend exhausting all the options with the FOSS drivers first
[03:57] <PapiChi> I apt-getted obbledooble V2.3.4 then upgraded my dangler and I still can't get the config sys V to run. What is the problem? The error --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[03:57] <HTT-Bird> as you will need an older (probably pre-AMD aka crappy) fglrx version
[03:57] <Random832> found it, xset
[03:57] <sjd> I can scan devices and pair them, but no file transfer is possible through bluetooth. can anyone help me? Im using karmic
[03:57] <HTT-Bird> Random832: that'll do the trick :)
[03:57] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Okay, I insert a movie disc and it just spins
[03:57] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: ok, your drive or controller is gonez0r then
[03:57] <HTT-Bird> prob the drive
[03:57] <NotTooSmart> gonezor
[03:57] <sjd> can someone please help me?
[03:58] <PapiChi> I apt-getted obbledooble V2.3.4 then upgraded my USB dangler and I still can't get the config sys V to run. What is the problem? The error --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[03:58] <PapiChi> sjd it's almost impossible to get help here :(
[03:58] <HTT-Bird> sjd: ask your question man
[03:58] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Are you implying that my controller is gone...?
[03:58] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: I think your drive is shot personally
[03:58] <HTT-Bird> there's an outside chance it's your controller
[03:58] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: #radeon's a fairly slow channel btw
[03:58] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: what do you mean by "shot"?
[03:58] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: dead. broken. out of order.
[03:58] <sjd> HTT-Bird: my bluetooth has a problem. Im using Karmic. I can search and pair devices, but I cant send and recieve files
[03:59] <HTT-Bird> sjd: never used Bluetooth in my life, sry m8
[03:59] <zagabar> Anyone here is good at ics? I am using it on my server so that eth0 faces internet and eth1 faces other computers. eth1 is configured as <IP_ADDRESS>. How do I do if I want my wlan0 to also be able to act as an interface where computers could connect?
[03:59] <PapiChi> sjd it's almost impossible to get help here :(
[03:59] <ranjan> hello Every body does any body have any idea regarding how to get notified on empathy in irc chanel if some body call some bodies name
[03:59] <ryanCH> why can't i enable DMA on my sata drive with hdparm?
[03:59] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Oh I see, then is it the OS problem thats causing it or just the hardware?
[03:59] <sjd> PapiChi: why? this is the ubuntu support channel right?
[03:59] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: hardware
[03:59] <PapiChi> sjd yes, but I can't even get a response :(
[03:59] <PapiChi> I apt-getted obbledooble V2.3.4 then upgraded my USB dangler and I still can't get the config sys V to run. What is the problem? The error --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[04:00] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: I don't even know what the heck obbledooble is, let me go look for it :p
[04:00] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird check the pastebin
[04:00] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: where'd you get that package from? it sure as heck isn't in jaunty. :p
[04:00] <xxx_> PapiChi: I can't find that obble dooble in my repository have fun with your double vision ;)
[04:01] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Oh what a surprise! The disc is being recognized by the k3b program.
[04:01] <icedtea> is there a gnome developer channel?
[04:01] <HTT-Bird> icedtea: irc.gnome.org :)
[04:01] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: as blank media? :O
[04:01] <jami> zagabar: just bring the second one up
[04:01] <icedtea> HTT-Bird, doh! thats right, been there before, thanks
[04:01] <HTT-Bird> np icedtea
[04:01] <jami> zagabar: whats the problem
[04:02] <PapiChi> my mistake. The game is called "obledoble", the problem is with my flashplugin. Error --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[04:02] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: No, its a movie and it had the title on it.   What is the problem? Is the flash plugin broken? The error --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[04:03] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: so then the OS must be causing the problem then...
[04:03] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Maybe when upgrading to Karmic messed things up
[04:03] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: perhaps, it could be an intermittent hw problem, those do exist :)