[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> |Steve|: you cant boot into anything without a bootloader, grub is your bootloader
[09:09] <|Steve|> yaboot is a pain in the ass.
[09:09] <|Steve|> ActionParsnip1: Um, no, it isn't.
[09:10] <ActionParsnip1> |Steve|: its the default, you havent stated you were using anything different
[09:10] <CatEater> what do people usually run ubuntu on? i can't get vbox working on windows xp
[09:10] <Flannel> |Steve|: yaboot can boot to single user mode too, yes.
[09:10] <|Steve|> ActionParsnip1: It's certainly not the default on my platform (or even an option).
[09:10] <wizzo50> On Ubuntu, how do you bring up your drives showing how much space you have used and what is left of your Hard drives?
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> CatEater:  i use virtualbox under windows all the time with no problems.
[09:10] <|Steve|> Flannel: Okay. yaboot barely works as far as I can tell.
[09:10] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: i run it on an AMD3000+ AM2 with 1GbDDR2 and nvidia 6250 gfx, works great
[09:10] <CatEater> Dr_Willis: i can't even get the vm window to show up
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> !gru
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> !grub
[09:11] <CatEater> it never appears
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> |Steve|: your witness ^
[09:11] <Flannel> |Steve|: Well, if it barely works at all, then it barely works to boot to the recovery console too, but it works.
[09:11] <|Steve|> ActionParsnip1: Powerpc.
[09:11] <CatEater> is vbox some kind of in-joke?
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> wizzo50:  go to places-> comptuer. right click & properties on any icon
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> |Steve|: again, please provide better information so we dont have to guess
[09:11] <|Steve|> Flannel: By barely works, I mean that I've never successfully gotten the yaboot prompt.
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> CatEater:  virtualbox works very well for me on windows.. perhaps check #windows or the vbox homepage/forums
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: its fine for virtualisation
[09:12] <|Steve|> ActionParsnip1: I'm not asking for help, I merely asked if single user mode were possible without grub. You were the one who kept insisting that I was using grub.
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> CatEater:  or try vmware. (a little harder to use)
[09:12] <Flannel> |Steve|: The answer to that is yes.
[09:12] <CatEater> ActionParsnip1: how do i view what's on the display though?
[09:12] <|Steve|> Flannel: Right, thanks.
[09:12] <CatEater> i guess it's fine if i don;'t need to see what's happening
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: you boot the virtualbox up and the display is shown
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: the default is to display the desktop
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> CatEater:  it works perfectly fine here. i see the display just fine. Your windows system is goofed up sounds like to me.
[09:13] <CatEater> ActionParsnip1: it's shown for a brief time, then it disappears
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: are you sure you arent running vmware?
[09:13] <CatEater> ActionParsnip1: it's vbox 3.0.4
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> Vmware- is a beast of another  type.
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: i'd reinstall it then, and delete the config files
[09:13] <zaggynl> hm im running 2.2.4
[09:13] <CatEater> the last thing i see is a black display with a _ in the top left, then it just *poof* disappears
[09:13] <wizzo50> \join unity-coders
[09:14] <CatEater> ok, where do i delete config files?
[09:14] <wizzo50> \join #unity-coders
[09:14] <zaggynl> /
[09:14] <Flannel> wizzo50: /join not \join
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> CatEater:  THAT sounds like your ubuntu iso file is either currupted.. or you dont hav the vbox machine mounting the iso file.
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: uninstall the app, then delete the .virtulabox folder in your windos profile, then reinstall
[09:14] <CatEater> Dr_Willis: at some point, i actually managed to install ubuntu
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: did you md5 check theiso you are using?
[09:14] <CatEater> pretty sure it's booting from hard drive now
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> the iso*
[09:15] <CatEater> i went through the whole install process
[09:15] <CatEater> ok how do i check iso
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> !md5 | CatEater
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: you have no way of knowing the iso is correct yet you still used it? md5 checks give you assurance the image is good and hasnt been damaged during download
[09:16] <CatEater> those instructions aren't for windows
[09:16] <CatEater> i can't use them
[09:16] <marko> my sound is not working properly. it was working fine until i tried to shut down my PC and then the screen went black but never shut off. i then forcibly shut it off. next time i switched it on, the sound is not working when it is starting up or with most programs (except with Jukebox and Totem Movie Player
[09:16] <marko> can someone help me?
[09:16] <CatEater> they all have a $ prompt
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM%20on%20Windows
[09:16] <marko> also, when i plug in my headsets, the sound stops working altogether on any program
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: read the screen, there was a link to how to md5 on ALL platforms
[09:19] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: found it?
[09:20] <CatEater> somehow i lost track
[09:20] <CatEater> found what again?
[09:20] <celthunder> marko what kind of sound device is it
[09:20] <CatEater> i just downloaded a windows md5sum utuility
[09:20] <CatEater> why did i do that again?
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> You tell us...
[09:21] <CatEater> i used the verify cd function in the iso before i installed, so why do i need to verify it again?
[09:21] <CatEater> i used a good cd image
[09:21] <CatEater> now, how do i view my vbox window?
[09:21] <Dabian> ubotu whats the current version of ubuntu?
[09:21] <Flannel> Dabian: 9.04
[09:22] <Dabian> Flannel: Thank you!
[09:22] <marko> celthunder: card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC268 Analog [ALC268 Analog] is that what ur looking for?
[09:22] <Dabian> I'm running the current version of Ubuntu, but I need to upgrade my Open Office Org to 3.1 (from 3.0) ... is there a package I can download, or must I do a manual install?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: its still good to verify the ISO BEFORE burning. Otherwise you may waste a disk. It also means you can be sure the ISO you are using is good
[09:23] <ActionParsnip1> Dabian: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/05/install-openoffice-31-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html
[09:23] <celthunder> marko okay, i'm assuming you checked alsamixer made sure nothing is muted etc?
[09:23] <Dabian> ( ... and we all want good ISO's ... )
[09:23] <CatEater> ActionParsnip1: burning? aaaaaahahahahaha
[09:23] <CatEater> maybe when i can afford a burner
[09:23] <Flannel> !ooo | Dabian
[09:23] <CatEater> they're like $80
[09:23] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: its still necessary to verify the file
[09:23] <CatEater> ActionParsnip1: i did already verify though
[09:23] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: bad file gives bad install
[09:23] <Dabian> ActionParsnip1: Thanks!  Looks like I might have googled it ... :)
[09:24] <CatEater> the file teself has a verification utility, which i used
[09:24] <Dabian> Thanks again, Flannel!
[09:24] <CatEater> itself
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: then uninstall virtualbox, remove .virtualbox from your profile and reinstall
[09:24] <CatEater> ActionParsnip1: how do i "remove .virtualbox from your profile"?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: yes but testing the iso outside of that is needed too
[09:24] <marko> celthunder: im pretty sure i've done that and it wasn't working properly. ive unmuted everything but when i play a sound, a faint static sound happens
[09:25] <marko> i thought it was hardware related, but Jukebox and Totem Movie Player works perfectly
[09:25] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: you have a folder for the settings for virtualbox in your windows profile, i think its in local settings\application settings I'm not sure, search your profile for it
[09:26] <CatEater> ok, kill vbox, delete vbox settings, reinstall vbox
[09:26] <celthunder> marko so what program produces static?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: that folder holds all settings and hdd images of your virtual box, if you delete it you will get blank settings, if yu uninstall virtualbox you will then have a system that has never heard of the app and you can reinstall it from the beginning
[09:27] <CatEater> WTF
[09:27] <dpozega> Hi guys, is there a command line application which could show me which application is writing what to the disk?
[09:27] <CatEater> "You must type a file name."
[09:27] <CatEater> ok... how do i rename the vbox settings folder?
[09:27] <marko> celthunder: pretty much everytime i try play sound using any program (even when the laptop is starting up) it plays a really faint static. only time it doesnt is if im using Jukebox or Totem, but i can't use both at the same time coz then i lose sound once again
[09:27] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: it will be in: Documents and Settings\username\Application Data
[09:27] <CatEater> windows won't let me
[09:27] <CatEater> it says: "You must type a file name."
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: you need to delete .VirtualBox in there (close virtual box first)
[09:28] <CatEater> how do i rename instead of delete?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: then use add remove programs to uninstal the app
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: right click the folder -> rename
[09:28] <codeshah> hey guys, I am trying to install php extensions, but it seems that they are installed in /usr/local/lib/php/extensions/no-debug-non-zts-20060613/
[09:28] <Dabian> ActionParsnip1: Hmmm .. doesn't look like there is packages for AMD64 ... am I correct?
[09:28] <codeshah> and so when I add extension= to php.ini it does not find it?
[09:28] <CatEater> it says: "You must type a file name."
[09:28] <CatEater> it won't let ne
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: then type a new name
[09:28] <CatEater> me
[09:28] <CatEater> i did though
[09:29] <CatEater> it says: "You must type a file name."
[09:29] <FloodBot2> CatEater: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> Dabian: there are am64 as well as i386
[09:29] <CatEater> oh bit me FloodBot2
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: then type a new filename
[09:29] <Dabian> ActionParsnip1: OK .. I'll try some more .. but I got an error. :)
[09:29] <CatEater> just because i had to say the same thing several times doesn't mean anything
[09:29] <CatEater> i did type a new filename
[09:29] <CatEater> it says: "You must type a file name."
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: is it unique to the folder
[09:29] <CatEater> yes
[09:29] <celthunder> marko no idea man :( hope you get it fixed though
[09:30] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: is virtalbox still running?
[09:30] <CatEater> no
[09:30] <CatEater> i killed it real good
[09:30] <Dabian> Anyone want to have a look at my error in #Flood?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: i'd reboot, then try rename. windows likes reboots
[09:30] <CatEater> i got all the vbox processes
[09:30] <Dabian> or is there a paste thing for this channel?
[09:30] <CatEater> no reboot sorry
[09:30] <Dabian> ubottu: paster
[09:30] <Dabian> ubottu: paste
[09:30] <ActionParsnip1> !paste | Dabian
[09:30] <prince_jammys> Dabian: paste.ubuntu.com
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> the pastebinit command is sooo handy
[09:30] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: then i'd ask in ##windows. your OS inability to rename a folder isnt supported here
[09:31] <CatEater> wonderful
[09:31] <Dabian> tranks prince_jammys
[09:31] <m__> how can i change my computer language?
[09:31] <iwobbles> mm I had blue screen of death 5 times at work today ActionParsnip1 using windows 15 minutes wasted everytime
[09:31] <Dabian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/266536/
[09:31] <prince_jammys> !locale > m__
[09:31] <Dabian> Its in danish, I fear .. but hopefully it makes sense anyhow.
[09:32] <CatEater> ok, since VMs aren't supported, what should i try: celeron 300 with 64MB RAM, or pentium 233 with 256MB RAM?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> Dabian: you didnt import the pgp key
[09:32] <m__> how can i change my computer language?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: either
[09:32] <prince_jammys> !locale | m__
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> !locale | m__
[09:32] <Dabian> ActionParsnip1: *blush* OK .. I guess I was a bit fast.
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> CatEater:  windows is good at locking down files - and  some times they dont get unlocked down properly without a reboot.. thats the core of it.. do what you want.
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> Dabian: read the *whole* how to
[09:32] <Dabian> ActionParsnip1: Right
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> CatEater:  64mb ram - is not going to be enough to runubuntu
[09:33] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_Willis: it'll run xubuntu barely
[09:34] <prince_jammys> how about minimal ubuntu + fluxbox or such?
[09:34] <ActionParsnip1> CatEater: you cound use u-lite to install a miinimal ubuntu, then install lxde to get a desktop
[09:34] <ActionParsnip1> prince_jammys: fluxbuntu!!
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip1:  barely barely. :)
[09:34] <prince_jammys> but it's in a VM too ..
[09:35] <prince_jammys> that's rough. 64MB is very little.
[09:35] <Dabian> ActionParsnip1: OK .. now its installing!  Thank you very much! :)
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> Dabian: good lad, you have learned today ;)
[09:35] <Dabian> :)
[09:35] <Dabian> ActionParsnip1: ;)
[09:35] <filistine> i was using firefox on ubuntu, and the application locked up and went grayscale. Does this mean its dead? How do i kill it or restart it?
[09:36] <Chousuke> 64MB is enough for a command-line install but any fancy GUIs are out of the question
[09:36] <Chousuke> you might be able to run twm and a couple xterms though :P
[09:36] <prince_jammys> filistine: pkill firefox
[09:36] <filistine> thanks
[09:36] <zealiod> is it possible to find out what VLAN a certain IP/MAC address is sending packets on?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> zealiod: you could ask the switch its attatched to
[09:37] <prince_jammys> ActionParsnip1: is fluxbuntu an actual distro?
[09:37] <prince_jammys> excuse my laziness.
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> prince_jammys: yes
[09:38] <prince_jammys> weird
[09:38] <prince_jammys> i have minimal + fluxbox, so i guess i must have fluxbuntu
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> prince_jammys: uses kasenchaze as default browser and rox as file manager, its damn fast
[09:38] <prince_jammys> oh, ok, comes with a set of apps.
[09:38] <aaron11> bazhang are you there
[09:39] <filistine> i cant kill the process - its says its uninteruptable
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> prince_jammys: yes, unfortunately the stupid updtae manager doesnt recognise it so you need one of the desktop metapackages installed to jump up a release, very annoying
[09:39] <Polterge|st> ok what I have learned from playing with these audio settings is that you have to probably set your audio fragments to be at least 5 ms so that some programs like rhythmbox will play the 1ms silence between songs on last.fm
[09:39] <zealiod> ActionParsnip1: hard to tell which switch the traffic is deffo on...
[09:39] <prince_jammys> filistine: brute force is : pkill -9 firefox
[09:39] <Polterge|st> and 10 fragments is a good number
[09:39] <Polterge|st> default was 8
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> filistine: ps -ef | grep fire
[09:39] <aaron11> does anyone know why there are no ads for ubuntu linux
[09:39] <prince_jammys> filistine: that sends it a deadly signal.
[09:39] <m__> has there any need for antivirus in ubuntu??????????
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> filistine: then use: kill <left most number>
[09:39] <prince_jammys> m__: not really, no.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> m__: not really no
[09:39] <prince_jammys> hah
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> snips
[09:39] <aaron11> m__  no never
[09:40] <Polterge|st> adding 2 more fragments is 10 x 50 which of course is 50 and 50 is 30 less than the default 80 so the system should process it faster
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> m__:  i use them to scan my windows systems/files :)
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> m__:  does that count?
[09:40] <Polterge|st> enabled 32 channels as my value for default number of channels to sample
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> m__: if you run a samba server you can have AV watching it to save windows users from each other
[09:40] <aaron11> m__  there is avast but that is just no use but install one if u have wINE
[09:40] <Polterge|st> set 2 speaker default under the speaker config setting
[09:40] <filistine> oh oh, now the system monitor has gone gray - one by one, my apps are all going gray
[09:40] <Polterge|st> now it is playing 32 channels across 2 speakers
[09:40] <Polterge|st> with the best resampler
[09:40] <m__> thanks all
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> aaron11: not needed in wine if the apps never touch the internet
[09:40] <Polterge|st> and with tweaked buffering
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> filistine:  compiz 'greys' processes if it detectx they are slow to respond.
[09:41] <Polterge|st> you can disable that dimming
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> of course without the dimming.. you just have a hanging app.. that you are not sure what its doing..
[09:41] <friendki> how to view complete chat in x-chat?
[09:41] <prince_jammys> two apps i don't like.
[09:41] <Polterge|st> also true Dr_Willis
[09:41] <m__> any one know a very interesting software for ubuntu?? plz make me know
[09:42] <nameless_> hi
[09:42] <prince_jammys> m__: very vague.
[09:42] <nameless_> The Gimp :D
[09:42] <pradeep> any one knows how to set up my laptop as a server??
[09:42] <filistine> i thought linux was the operating system you never had to reboot
[09:42] <jad> so
[09:42] <bgy> hi
[09:42] <Dayofswords> m__: define interesting
[09:42] <m__> ok
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> filistine: technically no, but it can help
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> pradeep: what sort of server?
[09:42] <prince_jammys> filistine: you won't have to reboot.
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> pradeep: server is a very broad title
[09:43] <prince_jammys> filistine: at least, i'll be surprised if you do.
[09:43] <pradeep> I have developed a website. i have hosted it on apache localhost. my friend should be able to access the website using the services of my laptop
[09:43] <Chousuke> except for kernel upgrades :P
[09:43] <pradeep> is it possible?
[09:43] <bgy> Is there a way to a shortcut when in a folder I right click to choose 'Make a new directory' or 'Make a new file', i'd have liked to add 'Make a new Open Office Document' ?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> pradeep: so a web server then?
[09:43] <pradeep> yes
[09:43] <m__> like windows xp. virtual girl!
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> pradeep: ok thats better, "server" on its own means nearly nothing
[09:43] <aaron11> ActionParsnip1 if you are connecting to unknown windows servers using ssh or samba then u want to run it using wine then it is very important (avast) usualy if id do that then i realy install the avg (which only finds virusus which could be a thareat to the system) and then use avast and cut their throats off
[09:44] <Dayofswords> server on a laptop is a wierd idea, i'd just criagslist a cheap 50 buck pc and use that instead
[09:44] <zealiod> ActionParsnip1: can i glean that info from an arp request?
[09:44] <pradeep> i have apache  installed on my laptop??
[09:44] <pradeep> so how do i make my laptop as a server now/
[09:44]  * aaron11 is sortof shivery today :/
[09:45] <zephyrian> is there a good way to do file tagging and tag searching on ubuntu?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip1> pradeep: it is a server now, it is serving httpd
[09:45] <aaron11> pradeep  why for what reason
[09:45] <aaron11> pradeep  oh ok
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> bgy:  thers some template feature in Nautilus
[09:46] <m__> once i change screen resolution of ubuntu. 2nd time i can not change it. it needs reinstallation of ubuntu!!!!!
[09:46] <pradeep> for example: if my friend types http://<IP_ADDRESS>/src
[09:46] <bgy> Dr_Willis, where could i find about this  ? is there a preference box to do thaT ?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> m__: just restart the x server, may help
[09:46] <pradeep> he should be able to run the site on his browser. My laptop will be serving
[09:46] <MarcoPau> hello, I just accidentally erased the content of /etc/init.d/... is there any way to recover?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> pradeep: as long as he is connected to your wan, yes
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> s/wan/lan
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> bgy:  i recall some Templates Dirctory. but i forget what you put in there.. perhaps a blank doc of the type you want.
[09:47] <pradeep> yeah both are connected to the wan.??
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> pradeep: so if s/he is connected to your network, that will work
[09:47] <bgy> Dr_Willis, thanks, i'll take a look about this
[09:47] <pradeep> wat should he do then?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> pradeep: if you are at your house and your friend is at his/her house then that ip will not work
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> bgy:  under create documents -> no templates installed. It looks in that dir for those.
[09:47] <pradeep> do i need to share any folder as such
[09:48] <pradeep> i know that it wont work. i mean on the local area network or the intranet
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> pradeep: you need to setup virtual server / port forwarding on your router to allow the traffic through
[09:48] <m__> has there any way to change the system without command???????
[09:48] <pradeep> ActionParsnip1: how to do that:-)
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> pradeep: then your friend will connect to the wan ip of your router and the data will be forwarded to the correctinternal system
[09:49] <m__>  has there any way to change the system  language without command???????
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> pradeep: it varys wildly from router to router. dig out your manual
[09:49] <prince_jammys> syntax error: too many question marks.
[09:49] <bgy> Dr_Willis, Is he templates directory in ~/.nautilus ?
[09:49] <bgy> t*
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> m__: you have to issue some command to get the language canged, computers respond only to inputs
[09:49] <prince_jammys> m__: probably. the locale URL didn't work for you?
[09:50] <pradeep> ActionParsnip1: There s a application called Meiga which allows you to share folders over http. y won that work?
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> bgy:  its right in my Users Home directory here.,
[09:50] <bgy> Dr_Willis, i just found it ~/Templates
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> pradeep: bad config, is meiga a windows program?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> !info meiga
[09:50] <pradeep> no linux
[09:50] <b3rz3rk3r> bgy, it should be in /home/user/Templates
[09:50] <bgy> thanks for the help
[09:51] <greenway> hi, hope you don't hate me for that but: i am currently running winxp (i also have wubi installed) therefore my question: what advantages does ubuntu have over windows xp, or why would should i change to linux? thank you
[09:51] <filistine> Ubuntu fully locked up - frozen mouse - required a hardware reset
[09:51] <leaf-sheep> greenway: It's all about preferences, really.  However, let me find you a link.
[09:51] <Gadu1> I've got ubuntu installed on a touch screen computer that won't be using a mouse or keyboard
[09:51] <filistine> On reboot the first time it said "kernel panic"
[09:51] <pradeep> ActionParsnip1: meiga.igalia.com
[09:51] <prince_jammys> greenway: /join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask there.
[09:52] <Gadu1> what are some recommended packages/applications/setups for such a setup?
[09:52] <greenway> leaf-sheep: thanks
[09:52] <greenway> #ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:52] <b3rz3rk3r> greenway, eys
[09:52] <ActionParsnip1> pradeep: you'd still need to port forward to the internal pc
[09:52] <leaf-sheep> greenway: http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[09:52] <b3rz3rk3r> yes*
[09:52] <greenway> thanks for the fast responses
[09:52] <bobslaede> hey fellas, im trying to create a public ssh key to rsync some files from a debian etch server to an ubuntu edgy server, and well, i think the ssh versions are different. How could this be resolved?
[09:52] <prince_jammys> greenway: it's a channel for non-support related questions that still have to do with ubuntu.
[09:52] <codeshah> I compiled PHP from source [for nginx, fastcgi etc], and am trying to include PHP extensions with PEAR - do I just use the ubuntu built in php-pear or ?
[09:52] <pradeep> ActionParsnip1: But that allows file sharing.
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> pradeep: yes but you are behind a router which will drop the requests as they are not permitted
[09:54] <Gadu1> the computer the ability to use a mouse and keyboard for setup purposes of course, I just don't intend to use it afterward
[09:54] <pradeep> ActionParsnip1: Anyways i will try messing up with my router and try. The only problem is I am on a college wifi. so i have to get permission to access the router page and do the config
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> pradeep: you could share your entire system to every manand his dog, if the router does not permit the traffic then no requests will get to the internal lan
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> Gadu1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> Gadu1: will get you an onscreen keyboard
[09:55] <Gadu1> excellent
[09:55] <pradeep> ActionParsnip1: :-);-) thanks for the help
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> pradeep: np man
[09:56] <Gadu1> ActionParsnip1: any user interface changes or modifications that would be beneficial for this little 10" touch setup?
[09:57] <n3f> hi everyone
[09:57] <aaron11> hi
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> Gadu1:  you may want to check out the netbook remix type interfaces.. they are designed for smaller screens
[09:58] <Gadu1> Dr_Willis: will do, thanks ^_^
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> Gadu1: i suggest something lik this for firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/364
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> Gadu1: more real estate in browsing
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> Gadu1: also install tiny menu and collapse the web controls to one row
[10:01] <Gadu1> ActionParsnip1: Tiny Menu has to be the most beautiful thing for firefox I've ever seen O_O
[10:02] <Like> gm
[10:03] <wizzo50> With my new motherboard, I had a CD come with it with the drivers on it for it's sound and so forth, how do I use it when I have Ubuntu setup on my computer for the drivers?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> Gadu1: if you customise your toolbars, you can drag the address and google search where the menu items used to be
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> Gadu1: then get rid of the bookmark and navigation bar
[10:04] <happy> wizzo50: you can not use windows drivers. Do you need those drivers?
[10:04] <ayathehusker> you dont need motherboard drivers and stuff usually
[10:04] <wizzo50> yes
[10:04] <anr78> I want to give dirs and files different colors when I run ls. This works on a server I log into, but after setting my LS_COLORS in the same way locally I don't get fancy colors. Anything else I must setup?
[10:04] <happy> wizzo50: what is not working?
[10:04] <wizzo50> sound
[10:04] <ayathehusker> ubuntu auto installed all my peripherals cept my creative labs x-fi which i had to get a linux beta driver for
[10:05] <happy> !sound has useful information
[10:05] <happy> !sound
[10:05] <wizzo50> !sound
[10:05] <prince_jammys> anr78: is ls aliased to ls --color=auto  (it tends to be by default)
[10:06] <prince_jammys> anr78: also, at what point are you setting LS_COLORS ? in .bashrc?
[10:06] <anr78> prince_jammys: no alias, and yes, in .bashrc
[10:06] <prince_jammys> anr78: do you get colors at all?
[10:07] <anr78> prince_jammys: using --color=auto gave me fancy colors :)
[10:07] <anr78> prince_jammys: nope
[10:07] <prince_jammys> anr78: so, ls --color=auto  did what you wanted?
[10:07] <mehedi> without vlc has there any good media player for ubuntu?
[10:07] <|-Gobi-|> be advised: If one uses SciTe the FTP isn't working that much... had to use curlftpfs to mount volume. If tried directly Scite just cleared the file empty
[10:08] <anr78> prince_jammys: yes
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> mehedi:  why withoug? I use vlc, gmplayer, smplayer,  or occasionally xine for my video needs.
[10:08] <prince_jammys> anr78: in .bashrc, you can alias ls by adding:  alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[10:08] <silner> mehedi: I like mplayer, but you have to get the one from the medibuntu repo
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> mehedi: i like mplayer
[10:08] <happy> mehedi: what is wrong with vlc?
[10:08] <prince_jammys> anr78: without that option, ls does not show colors.
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> Gadu1: http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/391/roll.jpg
[10:08] <leaf-sheep> A split-window bug, I suspect.
[10:09] <silner> mehedi: I like vlc too
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> Gadu1: thats how i roll, the bookmarks thing is googe oookmarks
[10:09] <anr78> prince_jammys: ah. you were right about the aliasing. my mind confused it with symlinks. the server had the alias, local .bashrc did not. thanks!
[10:09] <prince_jammys> anr78: welcome.
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> the VLC 1.0.x versions in the PPA repos have the video merged in with the controlls now.. as does the version in  9.10 :)
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> vlc 1.0 plays nice with g1 phone too :)
[10:10] <silner> mehedi: mplayer plays real media streams better than vlc, or at least it did last time I tried, the recent move to v1.0 for vlc may have changed that.
[10:10] <Guest70105> hey wassup all
[10:11] <aar> Hi, when I resume the system from sleep mode the screen looks dark (as if on battery mode), despite the fact that it's connected to the mains. The screen also goes darker when I start mplayer. Why is this happening? (Kuuntu 8.04 on a Dell Inspiron laptop)
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> realmedia workd good for me with mplayer also
[10:11] <blackmoon> hi, i've update openoffice (3.1.1) but alla icons in the toolbar are disappeared, i've got only the name...
[10:11] <mehedi> i use samsung wide screen LCD monitor. vlc does not cover the whole screen. but Dragon media player covers the whole monitor when i play video. (but this player a limited type of video format)
[10:12] <Fudge> any reported issues abotu karmic alpha5 wubi install with grub syntax errors?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> !karmic | fudge
[10:12] <phryk> Hi there. I want to install Ubuntu with wubi. But strangely wubi doesn't start at all. I execute it, i get the hourglass for a few seconds and nothing happens.
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> mehedi:  try the differnt 'video output' options in the vlc setting menus.
[10:12] <phryk> Is this known behaviour?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> phryk: did you md5 check the wubi installer?
[10:12] <mehedi> i use samsung wide screen LCD monitor. vlc does not cover the whole screen. but Dragon media player covers the whole monitor when i play video. (but this player  can  play a limited type of video format)
[10:12] <mehedi> ok
[10:12] <leaf-sheep> phryk: Don't use Karmic WUBI if that is what you were going for.
[10:12] <aaron11> so vic
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> phryk: did you md5 check the iso you downloaded (if you downloaded one)
[10:13] <aaron11> is any0ne here
[10:13] <aaron11> hel00
[10:13] <phryk> leaf-sheep: karmic?
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> aaron11:  1325 people here.
[10:13] <phryk> ActionParsnip1: i didn't
[10:13] <Fudge> thank you
[10:13] <phryk> i thought wubi would dl one
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> phryk: why not?
[10:13] <leaf-sheep> phryk: Karmic or 9.10.  Either way.  Avoid them.  They're not ready... yet.
[10:13] <phryk> but i didn't md5check that
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> phryk: it can, but you still need to md5 the wubi installer
[10:14] <phryk> leaf-sheep: i took the current one, 9.04 rev129
[10:14] <phryk> ActionParsnip1: yeah, how do i md5check that under windows? I don't exactly have a shell here :/
[10:14] <Gadu1> ActionParsnip1: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1289516/roll.png
[10:14] <phryk> well okay, i have a dosbox, but that's not worth much
[10:14] <Gadu1> and that is now how I roll XD
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> !md5 | phryk
[10:15] <aar> Hi, when I resume the system from sleep mode the screen looks dark (as if on battery mode), despite the fact that it's connected to the mains. The screen also goes darker when I start mplayer. Why is this happening? (Kuuntu 8.04 on a Dell Inspiron laptop)
[10:15] <phryk> already have one^^
[10:15]  * phryk notes "First google, then talk"
[10:16] <ActionParsnip1> phryk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[10:17] <tvasht> hey my pc just got rebooted while i was watching youtube and now after rebooting there is no sound in firefox. movies etc sound is fine.
[10:17] <tvasht> what could be wrong now
[10:17] <tvasht> there is cracking noise
[10:18] <tvasht> please anyone help
[10:18] <phryk> md5check is successful
[10:18] <jasa> tvasht, what version of Ubuntu are you using ?
[10:18] <phryk> So what else could it be?
[10:18] <tvasht> 9.04
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> phryk: good
[10:19] <phryk> ActionParsnip1: Well yes but no^^
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> phryk: not sure really i hate wubi
[10:19] <tvasht> jasa, 2.6.27-7-generic 9.04
[10:19] <jasa> tvasht, if there is the old sound system on System->Prefs->Sound try putting all into alsa audio and restart the audio ...
[10:19] <phryk> Yeah, but I'm on an internship here and am not allowed to kill the partition or mess around with it
[10:19] <bobslaede> an ubuntu edgy server is creating faulty ssh public keys, how can i fix this?
[10:19] <nikolam> Hi. am I mission something, because I think JAVA does not work here on Hardy in ANY browser, except Opera..
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> phryk: could download and check the iso for wubi
[10:19] <nikolam> I use 64-bit Hardy
[10:20] <tvasht> jasa, but sound is fine everywhere else.
[10:20] <indus> nikolam: which version of java do u have
[10:20] <tvasht> jasa, its using pulse
[10:20] <jasa> tvasht, yes it could be that installing libflashsupport might help too ...
[10:20] <phryk> ActionParsnip1: But if wubi itself should do this it's no use as wubi doesnt even start...
[10:20] <nikolam> indus, i am checking in synaptic..
[10:20] <indus> nikolam: in a terminal, type sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:20] <jasa> tvasht, that package gives you extra support for some audio things in flash.
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> phryk: try rebooting your system then rerunning
[10:20] <phryk> already did that
[10:21] <tvasht> jasa, i was just watching youtube and everything was just fine. power cut ->reboot -> nosound only in firefox
[10:21] <nikolam> indus, *+        3    /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java
[10:22] <indus> nikolam: only 1?
[10:22] <tvasht> also the speed of video doubles  .. jasa
[10:22] <indus> nikolam: which site do u use to check java?
[10:22] <jasa> tvasht, that would be odd bug then, never seen that to happen.
[10:22] <nikolam> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/266550/
[10:22] <jasa> tvasht, doing reinstall on flash from synaptic doesn't help ?
[10:22] <tvasht> didn't try. should i jasa
[10:23] <nikolam> indus, I test Java with http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[10:23] <jasa> tvasht, well if it's some config file corrupted it installs those again.
[10:23] <jasa> tvasht, cause of the powercut ... it could be possible if you were using that then
[10:23] <indus> nikolam: try this http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
[10:24] <wizzo50> happy http://pastebin.com/m1429ad19 I have no sound through my speakers but do through my headphones
[10:24] <jasa> tvasht, you using xfs filesystem btw ?
[10:24] <tvasht> jasa, also when i open firefox my cpu usage goes to 100%. 84% used by npviewer.bin.
[10:24] <tvasht> ext3
[10:24] <indus> tvasht: use 64 bit flash
[10:24] <owen1> from some reason i can't see the video on this site - http://www.infoq.com/presentations/nitobi-phonegap .  is there a way to downlad the video? (i can't find it under tools
[10:25] <owen1> -> page info)
[10:25] <jasa> tvasht, hmm ... well it could be that there is some file "open stuck" in the browser ... (Yeah the 64bit flash from adobe labs myself too).
[10:25] <tvasht> indus, adobe?
[10:25] <nikolam> indus, nope, just rotating green dots and nothing.
[10:25] <jbu_> hi all, I have 4 GB of system RAM, but ubuntu's system monitor and the top command show that I have 2.5 GB only.  Does anyone know if it's a problem displaying information or if the system actually is only using 2.5 GB?
[10:25] <nikolam> when trying in konqueror, i get message, Your Java version is 1.6.0_0. Please click the button below to get the recommended Java for your computer.
[10:25] <indus> tvasht: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-<IP_ADDRESS>.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[10:25] <nikolam> firefox I ment
[10:26] <bobslaede> hi, any reason why ubuntu edgy makes ssh public keys that look like this: http://pastebin.com/d3519d536
[10:26] <jasa> tvasht, do few times "killall firefox" to remove all the instances if some of those seems to be running and doesn't "die" on closing the application.
[10:26] <indus> tvasht: extract the libflashplayer.so and move it to .mozilla/plugins
[10:26] <lilcoconut> hi everyone! could someone help me please?
[10:26] <jasa> indus, did he say he has x86_64 environment.
[10:26] <indus> nikolam: that version is good enough
[10:26] <jbu_> lilcoconut, just ask your question
[10:26] <lilcoconut> i want to watch a dvd on linux, but it wont work :( any idea how i can solve this problem?
[10:26] <indus> jasa: he says npviewer.bin so yes fair to aassume
[10:26] <tvasht> thank you indus jasa i'll try that
[10:26] <blackmoon> jbu_: i've 4GB and system show 3,8Gib
[10:27] <Like> :D
[10:27] <indus> tvasht: can u tell me the output of uname -m
[10:27] <jbu_> blackmoon, but that's more of what I would expect
[10:27] <codeshah> how do I get the current server itme?
[10:27] <indus> nikolam: in synaptic can u search for icedtea
[10:27] <tvasht> indus, x86_64
[10:27] <jbu_> blackmoon, because doesnt the kernel reserve some memory for itself?  Plus at one point (i think 8.10, 8.04) it was showing 4GB properly
[10:27] <blackmoon> jbu_: how  mamory con you see in the BIOS screen?
[10:27] <indus> tvasht: good so try the link i gave
[10:27] <jbu_> blackmoon, 4GB
[10:28] <jbu_> blackmoon, vista shows 4GB as well
[10:28] <indus> tvasht: but first, sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[10:28] <tvasht> ok
[10:28] <nikolam> indus, installed icedtea 7 i think
[10:28] <jasa> tvasht, yeah you want the 64bit flash rather than use 3rd party addons to load 32bit one. -.-
[10:28] <jbu_> lilcoconut, http://lifehacker.com/350015/enable-dvd-playback-in-ubuntu-in-two-commands
[10:28] <nikolam> indus, but not a plugin..
[10:29] <indus> nikolam: hold on
[10:29] <blackmoon> jbu_: it's weird
[10:29] <indus> !java
[10:29] <jasa> jbu_, you need PAE kernel to show the memory amount right i think, physical address extension.
[10:29] <indus> nikolam: if you have new ubuntu 9.04 u get sun plugin original
[10:29] <nikolam> I use 8.04 LTS, 64-bit indus
[10:30] <jbu_> jasa, thanks, i'll look into it
[10:30] <indus> nikolam: ya now ther is a plugin for it too
[10:30] <maxagaz> which logs shall i check when epiphany crashes ?
[10:30] <indus> nikolam: why do u need java btw?
[10:30] <zealiod> how can i configure network/interfaces to accept and issue VLAN traffic?
[10:30] <phryk> 8.10 wubi works
[10:30] <zealiod> *issue DHCP to
[10:30] <jbu_> jasa, is that a module?  Why is that not on/enabled/included by default?
[10:30] <blackmoon> jasa: i've got standard kernel, and show 3,8GiB
[10:31] <nikolam> indus, I had to look some webcast the other day. After java not working in any browser on Ubuntu, I had to install opensolaris to just see webcast and that sucked.
[10:31] <jasa> jbu_, well i think it's enabled by default atleast on 64bit environment but not sure about 32bit ones and on Fedora there were some optional kernels around at some point.
[10:31] <indus> nikolam: give me that webcast link
[10:31] <tvasht> hey jasa indus .. i just removed flashplayer-nonfree and its working now. didn't install anything new. not even that file i dl from ur link.
[10:31] <owen1> from some reason i can't see the video on this site - http://www.infoq.com/presentations/nitobi-phonegap .  is there a way to downlad the video? (i can't find it under tools->page info)
[10:32] <jbu_> I feel like it's a simpler solution than that
[10:32] <indus> tvasht: hmm well ok then if that makes you happy
[10:32] <jbu_> ubuntu should just detect my 4GB of memory, it has before
[10:32] <tvasht> indus, jasa why did that happen?
[10:32] <jasa> jbu_, but i checked "pae" on synaptic and only thing i see on list for 64bit one is xen thing that says "This version of the hypervisor is built with support for systems with up to4GB of memory."
[10:32] <jbu_> jasa, not using xen
[10:32] <indus> tvasht: iam not sure what your problem was btw
[10:32] <jbu_> though I want to
[10:32] <nikolam> indus, just a min to find it etc. But it is generally that java don`t work, not just that webcast etc.
[10:32] <tvasht> indus, jasa k thanks anyways
[10:33] <indus> tvasht: the step i gave you removes flash so iam not sure what happened
[10:33] <jasa> tvasht, yeah ... but indeed if you need the flash you can't get that for 64bit one from normal adobe flash player site, you need to go labs.adobe ... -.-
[10:34] <indus> nikolam: try install icedtea-gcjwebplugin
[10:34] <tyoc> ubuntu 9.4 comes with python2.6 but I need to install python-yaml to 2.5, how I can do it?
[10:34] <tyoc> it is installed to 2.6
[10:34] <jasa> jbu_, well if you have x86 environment only and need the 4gb support it could go towards the thing you need to configure and compile your own kernel with physical address extension enabled.
[10:35] <indus> tyoc: you need to compile it with 2.5
[10:35] <tvasht> jasa, indus thanks thank you so much. that was very helpful
[10:35] <nikolam> indus, already installed, wiil try to reinstall.
[10:35] <indus> tvasht: welcome
[10:35] <tyoc> so, there is no "easy" install for 2.5?
[10:35] <indus> tyoc: this is easy too
[10:35] <blackmoon> jbu_: are you using ubuntu 64-bit, true?
[10:36] <jbu_> blackmoon, 32 bit
[10:36] <tvasht> indus, jasa and how do i find out if i have a 32 bit flash player or a 64 installed?
[10:36] <lowlycoder> is -log(-x) concave or conex?
[10:36] <blackmoon> jbu_: for 4gb of ram you must use 64-bit version
[10:36] <indus> tvasht: well,if u didnt install 64 bit,then u are running 32 bit with nspluginwrapper
[10:37] <indus> tvasht: i suggest try the 64 bit,crashes much less
[10:37] <jbu_> blackmoon, why? 32bit should be enough (2^32)
[10:37] <tvasht> indus, k thanks
[10:38] <wobue> 1
[10:38] <blackmoon> jbu_: no as jasa sayd, with 32bit you must enable PAE in the kernel, otherwise with 64bit you must do nothing
[10:38] <jbu_> blackmoon, ok I'll try it, thanks
[10:39] <blackmoon> jbu_: np
[10:39] <Flannel> jbu_: the -server kernel has PAE built in
[10:40] <tvasht> indus, i dont have a folder named "plugins" in /home/../.mozilla/ can i just create it and put "libflashplayer.so" in it?
[10:40] <indus> tvasht: yes
[10:40] <jbu_> Flannel, ah, I do not have the server version so I'm downloading the server headers right now
[10:41] <Flannel> jbu_: You can just install the server kernel: sudo apt-get install linux-server
[10:41] <jasa> tvasht, go to home folder with the explorer hit ctrl+h and go folder .mozilla make a folder there with name "plugins" and throw it there.
[10:41] <jbu_> Flannel, yeah that appears to be how to isntall PAE, in fact it's done installing now so I'll reboot and tell u guys how it went
[10:41] <jasa> tvasht, even if you use firefox don't go that folder the mozilla will work for that too.
[10:42] <XtoTheZ> can i make my printer, that connects with usb, network printer
[10:42] <tvasht> and thats it?  jasa indus
[10:42] <nikolam> indus, there is NO 64-it java plugin for Linux browsers> (use 32-bit version for applet and Java Web Start support)
[10:43] <jasa> tvasht, yes for single user assuming you don't have more users you want to enable the flash to ... if you have you need to throw it in global system folder.
[10:44] <admini123> how to access file in xp which is installed on same computer
[10:45] <Dayofswords> you know..... having a new computer with new os kinda sucks with no internet...
[10:45] <indus> nikolam: hmm i thought there is
[10:45] <indus> nikolam: ok never mind
[10:45] <indus> nikolam: hmm can u give me that paste again
[10:46] <jasa> admini123, you need to mount the partition with command: "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdX /folderToMount"
[10:46] <jbu_> for anyone interested:  I've installed the PAE kernel to try to get my system displaying the 4GB system RAMthat I have instead of 2.5 which it shows now and it failed to make a difference
[10:46] <XtoTheZ> can i make usb printer accessible from other pcs in local network?
[10:46] <russ> hi all, I need to run my laptop from a disk to solve a few probs with ubuntu. thing is, my cd reader is broken. I want to run from a USB pendrive, but I need to load it with an ubuntu IMG file
[10:46] <indus> tvasht: first you remove existing flash from system
[10:46] <jbu_> It looks like from some other posts I may need to blacklist some hardware to get all the memory to show
[10:46] <indus> tvasht: then restart browser
[10:46] <jbu_> blacklist some modules for my hardware
[10:46] <anan> http://www.thaiadpoint.com/tap8.1/bin/redir.php?p=2005&l=1330&u_id=363435
[10:47] <jasa> jbu_, hmm you sure your BIOS as right settings on it then ?
[10:47] <russ> I can only find ISO files. can anyone point me to an IMG file?
[10:47] <nikolam> indus, (use 32-bit version for applet and Java Web Start support)
[10:47] <indus> nikolam: ok
[10:47] <bobslaede> how do i uninstall RSS2 and go back to regular old rss on an edgy server
[10:47] <jbu_> jasa, I dont know what settings it would need...but I don't see why the default wouldn't be ok
[10:47] <jbu_> bios does recognize 4GB
[10:47] <asm`> hi - i just installed kubuntu in a VM.. i dont see any apps, can someone tell me how to install the repository or whatever?
[10:48] <jbu_> I've had 4GB for a while now and only 8.10 seemed to ever have a problem with it
[10:48] <indus> nikolam: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:48] <jbu_> errrr 9.04
[10:48] <jasa> jbu_, yes but is there some old OS compability setting for less than 4gb support enabled ?
[10:48] <indus> nikolam: how many options u see?
[10:48] <jbu_> jasa, are you talking about an OS option? that's kind of what i'm looking for now.
[10:48] <jasa> jbu_, i don't recall those settings but there are usually some settings around you might need to change.
[10:48] <nikolam> ana just a sec
[10:49] <nikolam> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/266550/ , indus
[10:49] <indus> nikolam: too many java
[10:50] <nikolam> :)
[10:50] <indus> nikolam: select 4th option and try again
[10:52] <admini123> how to mount document and settings folder on xp where both ubuntu 9 and xp install in same laptop
[10:54] <nikolam> admini123, sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g ntfs-config ntfsprogs
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> admini123:   You mount the windows filesystem to some location, then access the drive that way
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs3g
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> I think Im the only one that ever tells the installer where to mount my NTFS filesystems at...
[10:56] <nikolam> Dr_Willis, I put exact path in /etc/fstab
[10:56] <gigasoft> i have problem with fonts, i want to install new any help?
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> nikolam:  path? Huh? fstab is very specific in what info its needs/layout.
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> My windows drive fstab entry follows ..
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> # /media/Windows was on /dev/sda1 during installation
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> UUID=6A62B9CC1192CB2D /media/Windows  ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[10:58] <nikolam> I just made /ntfs dir and mount it there.
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. I need to rember to add a fmask= option and make it not show eveyr file as being executable...
[10:58] <nikolam> yes, something like that
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> i forget teh proper fmask for that.
[10:59] <nikolam> gigasoft, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> i never have understood why it wants a mask and not  just the actual permissions to use..
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> !mstcorefonts
Thanks
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> !mscorefonts
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> gigasoft:  the ubuntu-restricted-extras package will install the ms fonts if you want them also.
[11:00] <Spike1506> !msttcorefonts
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> if i can rember the name :)
[11:00] <Spike1506> sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[11:00] <gnt64a> : hi guys,i have tried to install th drivers for my usb wireless adapter but dont really know what i'm doing can someone  please help me with the source code?
[11:00] <nikolam> gigasoft, ans Dr_Willis is saying, install also msttcorefonts
[11:01] <gigasoft> OK thanks again, :)
[11:01] <jedc> hi, how can i change the default desktop appearance and preferences for new users that are added?
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> jedc:  you could add the proper files to /etc/skel so the settings get copied to the newly addedusers default home dirs.
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> but im not sure what files you would want.
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> You could make a 'test' user. and set them up how you want. and then copy all their /home/testuser files to /etc/skel
[11:02] <hadi> i have debian and i want to install ubuntu on it how do i do it ?
[11:02] <jedc> Dr.
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> hadi:  make boot cd.. boot cd.. install?  or is there somthign we are missign here?
[11:03] <hadi> no cd /
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> hadi:  unetbootin canmake bootable flash media.. or...
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> !instal | hadi
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> !install | hadi
[11:04] <obst> Hello! Yesterday I played my favourite 3D-game and my computer crashed. After a reboot I can't run any 3d-accelerated applications anymore. glxgears gives me "couldn't get an RGB, Duble-buffered visual". Im using ubuntu jaunty and a recent ATI card with the fglrx drivers. Any ideas?
[11:04] <jedc> sorry im having trouble typing your name on this phone (no underscore) i think that will work for me
[11:04] <hadi> !Automate
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> ircing on a phone... thats.. amuseing
[11:05] <gnt64a> can anyone help me?
[11:05] <jasa> obst, you tried installing the drivers again if some file got corrupted upon crash ?
[11:05] <jedc> but where does adduser copy files from? yea no internet yet so doing ubuntu setup :p
[11:05] <admini123> how to mount windows folder
[11:05] <jasa> obst, also you should see what dmesg says about loading your fglrx driver.
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> admini123:  you mount the windows FILESYTEM then access the windows drive as if it was any other drive/folder.
[11:06] <jasa> admini123, mount -t ntfs "device" "wheretomount"
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> admini123:  see what jasa  says.. then you sould   access /wheretomount/Documents/Whatever/whever/Desktop/Porn  or whatever the path would be to the files
[11:07] <gnt64a> so i take it no one knows how to install a driver then?
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> gnt64a:  i rarely need to these days
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> gnt64a:  you might want to check the forums for that exact usb wirless gizmo and see if others have premade packages for it.
[11:07] <jasa> gnt64a, what was the question on ?
[11:07] <jezi22> guys how can i use curses.h in gcc?
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> or it may be they are allready there.. and you just need to configire it right
[11:07] <gnt64a> ok will do.
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> !find curses.h
[11:07] <bala> hi, i am unable to find any alsa related (snd_*) symbols in the ubuntu linux-image-debug-2.6.28-15-generic package. any idea why or how i can fix this?
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> jezi22:  proberly in some ncurses dev package.
[11:08] <jasa> bala, you compiled the drivers with gcc that was used on kernel ?
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> jezi22:  theres examples of curses programing out there.. i last had to use curses ages ato.
[11:08] <jasa> bala, also there is the new alsa out there 1.0.21, i recommend getting that from their pages if you plan to install new drivers around.
[11:08] <jezi22> i am trying to use it.. >__<
[11:09] <bala> jasa: i didnt compile. i installed the debug package from http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/
[11:10] <jasa> bala, why you want some extra debugging ?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[11:10] <ActionParsnip1> :D
[11:10] <bala> jasa: going through the symbols in the debug image, there was not a single symbol starting with snd_
[11:10] <bala> jasa: i am trying to use systemtap
[11:11] <jasa> =)
[11:11] <bala> jasa: any particular reason why the sound related symbols are not present in the ubuntu package?
[11:14] <Dayofswords> tomorrow i'll install ubuntu....
[11:14] <jasa> bala, well i think im not the person you should ask that from really.
[11:14] <ActionParsnip1> Dayofswords: im doing mine today, new 250Gb SATA :D
[11:15] <Dayofswords> well its 3am here.... i dont feel like doing now =p
[11:15] <ActionParsnip1> Dayofswords: 11am here, GMT
[11:15] <jasa> Hmm, i noticed smart started on claiming i have 6 bad sectors on my other SATA drive. =(
[11:15] <bala> jasa: :). do you know how i could build a debug package?
[11:15] <tomas1> hey guys
[11:15] <Dayofswords> i'd like to update once i do but no internet
[11:16] <tomas1> just a question what will the difference be between 9.04 and 9.10
[11:16] <jasa> bala, get the drivers from page and check the "./configure --help" and it tells how to build those with debug things and remember on debian/ubuntu you need "--prefix=/usr" on configure too.
[11:16] <ActionParsnip1> tomas1: ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:16] <bala> jasa: thank you
[11:17] <Ileden> Hi! I'm using Aspire One (with UNR), and I have the Storage Expansion slot as constantly connected storage space. However, I've just learned that this disables my ability to suspend the machine! A Gentoo Wiki page references this problem, and suggest using LVM on the SD card - after that resume should work. I'm not familiar with LVM and the documentation on it goes really technical - it seems like a partition abstraction layer of sorts. I am familiar with partiti
[11:18] <bala> could someone tell me who maintains the kernel debug packages for ubuntu? (the ones found here http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/ )
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> Ileden: it is quite techy but research first and you will learn it
[11:19] <Spike1506> i was wondering if it is possible to make aliases on a ubuntu server
[11:19] <Ileden> ActionParsnip1: yeah, seems really techy. It'd be great to know whether I can use LVM on the SD card only, without messing with the rest of the system...
[11:20] <obst> jasa, I will reinstall the driver now. I looked at the logs but the only thing I can find is a couple of warnings in Xorg.0.log: "(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23" They continue up to 0x72.
[11:20] <Ileden> ActionParsnip1: Of course, I'd like to know whether it's just too messy solution to even start researching in the first place - but then again I'm the only one that can answer that. :)
[11:21] <jasa> obst, yeah fglrx doesn't support all those things around.
[11:21] <ActionParsnip1> Ileden: ive never had to use it tbh
[11:21] <ActionParsnip1> Ileden: im aware of it though
[11:22] <Spike1506> nice ban cleaning :p
[11:22] <aaron11> wtf
[11:22] <aaron11> is happening
[11:22] <pranav> how to install base system of from the latest Xubuntu CD ?
[11:22] <Ileden> ActionParsnip1: The main concern is that if I can use it on the SD card only, I do have a spare one I could try messing about with... but if I'd have to mess with the UNR installation itself, it's probably not worth the trouble.
[11:23] <anan> http://www.thaiadpoint.com/tap8.1/bin/redir.php?p=2018&l=1336&u_id=363435
[11:23] <ActionParsnip1> Ileden: id look at what it entails, if it does involve tampering with the installed OS then dont bother if you arent comfotable with it
[11:23] <silare> Does anyone know of a good MIDI player for Ubuntu? Banshee and MPlayer can't play them/
[11:24] <Impy^> Hi i'm trying to get a partition to automount when i boot computer but it doesn't seem to be working, this is what i've added to fstab. /dev/sda2     /media/sda2     vfat         rw,users,auto,exec       0  0
[11:24] <Madpilot> aaron11, clearing really old bans. Pardon the housekeeping.
[11:24] <Impy^> anyone know what i'm doing wrong/
[11:24] <pranav> Impy^, I wanted to know that too, plz someone help us..
[11:25] <Impy^> i've been playing around with it for ages and can't seem to get it :/
[11:25] <jasa> Impy^, take away that auto option from that line.
[11:26] <Gullstad> Hello. I was wondering if it was possible to show usb live input from devices in therminal?
[11:26] <pranav> what are those all ?
[11:26] <Impy^> and that'll do it jasa?
[11:26] <jasa> Impy^, alsa you sure it's vfat and not ntfs ? ... but that auto option is mostly on cdroms and similiar.
[11:26] <Impy^> yeah i'm sure it's vfat
[11:26] <jasa> Impy^, pretty sure that should do that.
[11:26] <mord> Impy^: in fact, why not use "defaults" as options
[11:26] <doshimitul85> i need to configure network in ubntu
[11:26] <Impy^> i made it fat32 so icould access it in windows and ubuntu
[11:26] <doshimitul85> any body help me?
[11:27] <Impy^> i want to be able to read/write to it mord
[11:27] <jasa> Impy^, usually i have always defaults before those other options and then those small mods behind those ... but i guess it does it by "default" even ... =)
[11:27] <pranav> Impy^, And what do I do for NTFS ?
[11:27] <Impy^> and unmount my self
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> Impy^: looks ok, just make sure the folder /media/sda2 exists
[11:27] <Impy^> yeah it exists
[11:28] <jasa> Impy^, defaults,rw,users
[11:28] <DaDa|Urka> svn export fails if the exportpath contains symbolic links - is that a bug? plz do not refer to #svn, noone is helping there
[11:28] <Impy^> defaults Uses the default options that are rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async.
[11:28] <pranav> So, is there a way to check without restarting..
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> Impy^: could even add uid=1000 to the options
[11:28] <rick_w> Where does the system feedback harvested go to (the once in a week system stats)?
[11:28] <Impy^> what would that do actionparsnip1?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> Impy^: allow everyone full access
[11:28] <Impy^> ah
[11:29] <Impy^> i'll try that
[11:29] <Impy^> the thing is when i start comptuer the partition is showing up in computer
[11:29] <Impy^> but i just have to click it to access stuff
[11:29] <Impy^> and for music programs to access music there too?
[11:30] <silare> Does anyone know of a good MIDI player for Linux?
[11:31] <sam1> No, I do,'t know
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> Impy^: linux can read and write to ntfs ok nowadays (some folders on system partitions arent editable but are certainly readable) but for simple data storage, ntfs is 100% fine
[11:31] <alankila> silare: timidity, I guess, is the only real option
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> Impy^: its also more robust than fat32
[11:31] <silare> alankila: Alright... Thanks. Is it any good?
[11:31] <Impy^> ahh
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> silare: timidity
[11:31]  * alankila shrugs
[11:31] <Impy^> will have to change it someday maybe
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> !info timidity | silare
[11:32] <Impy^> actionparsnip1 so if i'm doing this right i won't need to click the partition first to play music in banshee?
[11:32] <silare> ActionParsnip1: Alright. There is no way to get it to play in Banshee/MPlayer/etc. then, right?
[11:32] <pranav> How to automount ntfs using fstab
[11:32] <pranav> ?
[11:32] <alankila> It plays stuff. Midi isn't very complicated, but the audio synthesis is with some sampled sounds and I don't think the sounds are very good. But that's fault of midi in general: it only plays correctly on the particular hardware/software combo you composed the stuff on
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> Impy^: if you add it in fstab, it will simply be a folder, the kernel will manage the rest
[11:33] <Impy^> ahh okie dokie thanks for your help
[11:33] <Impy^> brb
[11:33] <sam1>  Does anyone know of a good channel for Ubuntu security ?
[11:34] <silare> alankila: Yeah... I'm not a MIDI fan myself, but I know a recent Linux convert who wants his MIDIs back. ._. And Banshee doesn't run it.
[11:34] <ActionParsnip1> sam1: here
[11:34] <ActionParsnip1> silare: midii is great, tiny files for music. good times
[11:35] <silare> ActionParsnip1: Back then, yes. But it has to be on the same type of device that wrote it. Otherwise it can sound REALLY messed up. o_O I'd love to hook up a MIDI sequencer from some of my old SNES games or so though. o_O
[11:35] <DefineByte> what options do i need to set in the kernel config (I'm compiling my own) to enable iptables?
[11:35] <peturIngi> yes yes yes hihii
[11:35] <ActionParsnip1> DefineByte: its in make menuconfig afaik
[11:36] <sam1>  ActionParsnip1: I'm french and i will like participate for ubuntu development, how?
[11:36] <DefineByte> I've got that far. I just don't know what options to select. :D
[11:36] <DefineByte> ActionParsnip1^
[11:36] <ActionParsnip1> sam1: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[11:37] <DefineByte> the guides online all seem outdated
[11:37] <ActionParsnip1> DefineByte: i'd research how
[11:37] <ActionParsnip1> DefineByte: or ask in #gentoo
[11:37] <DefineByte> thanks, I'll try there
[11:37] <user_> Hi out there
[11:38] <|-Gobi-|> Karmic Koala working on my (over heating on 9.04) laptop with Nvidia (compiz) + Broadcom Wlan =)
[11:38] <sam1> ActionParsnip1: thanks, do you speak french ?
[11:38] <|-Gobi-|> and no heat problems so far
[11:38] <user_> I need help to install LDAP and Radius on Ubuntu LTSP server
[11:38] <Ileden> I'm attempting to begin using LVM on an external SD drive, and I found a guide that seems like something to try. However, I'd like to clarify something about loading a module - at step 8. module needs to be added IF NOT USING Jaunty. I have Jaunty, so I can skip it. But at step 9. it talks about updating /etc/modules to autload LVM - can I skip this step too, since Jaunty already has the module "compiled into kernel"? The guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[11:39] <user_> can someone be of help
[11:39] <ActionParsnip1> sam1: hardly any to be useful
[11:39] <Callum_> something other than Red Hat-based distros supports LVM properly, Ileden?
[11:39] <ribatejo> hi, my gnome desktop is gone after installing lxde and updates
[11:40] <sam1> ActionParsnip1: lol, yes me to in english but i undertsand
[11:40] <Callum_> hell, gparted still doesn't have proper support for lvm2
[11:40] <ribatejo> fresh yesterday install
[11:40] <Ileden> Callum_: no idea, but it's an Ubuntu guide...
[11:40] <ribatejo> lxde works fine
[11:40] <ActionParsnip1> ribatejo: define "gone", you typ username and pass and select gnome as the desktop, what then happens
[11:40] <ribatejo> deleted the cache contents but still no go
[11:40] <ActionParsnip1> ribatejo: lxde is the bom!!
[11:40] <Ileden> Callum_: I really have no experience with LVM. Hadn't even heard of it before today...
[11:41] <sam1> ActionParsnip1: D you develop for Ubuntu ?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> sam1: no i just help in here
[11:41] <Callum_> Ileden, LVM is generally a Red Hat-based Linux distro thing
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> !lvm
[11:41] <ribatejo> ActionParsnip1: yes, is good..my plan is to use it and have gnome as a backup
[11:41] <Callum_> never seen a fully functioning LVM system on another distro
[11:41] <sam1> ActionParsnip1: nice, okay
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> ribatejo: what happens if you log onto gnome, what happens?
[11:41] <ribatejo> ActionParsnip1: with gone I mean that when I log in there is nothing in it but the wallpaper
[11:42] <ribatejo> not even right click
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> !restorepanels
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> !fixpanels
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> can someone do the panel factoid please
[11:42] <bazhang> !resetpanels
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> thanks'
[11:42] <sam1> Does anyone develop for Ubuntu in here.?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> ribatejo: alt+f2 work?
[11:42] <ribatejo> actrionparsnip1: right click worked for a bit and I made a launcher for the terminal
[11:43] <ribatejo> ActionParsnip1: no
[11:43] <ribatejo> might have to remove gnome?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> ribatejo: log into lxde, then run: metacity --replace
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> ribatejo: see if that flys
[11:43] <Ileden> Callum_: well, I'm not putting my whole system under it, only an external SD card... hopefully it'll work with Ubuntu too, we'll see.
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> ribatejo: then see if you can run that comand
[11:44] <Callum_> I'd like to see proper LVM support in any Linux distro instead of just Fedora, RHEL and CentOS
[11:45] <Callum_> its a pretty nice way of doing things
[11:46] <Ileden> Callum_: my problem is that LVM isn't really used for what I'm trying to do (just one partition on one disk, mounted in its own directory), so the guides and documentation seem to (naturally) concentrate on other cases.
[11:46] <asm`> hey guys im in kubuntu and i minimized konquerer.. where the heck did it go?
[11:46] <asm`> did it close?
[11:47] <asm`> i dont see it
[11:47] <Callum_> why are you trying to use LVM for that, then?
[11:48] <Callum_> Ileden: LVM is mainly used for many many partitions spread over 1 or more drives
[11:48] <Callum_> or 1 over many drives, either way =P
[11:50] <Ileden> Callum_: I need to use it to get my Aspire One laptop to suspend when SD card is inserted. (I know, I know, it makes me laugh too :D)
[11:50] <Callum_> o_o
[11:50] <Callum_> heh
[11:51] <Ileden> Callum_: A gentoo wiki page mentioned that this might be a workaround for the suspend problem. :)
[11:51] <Madpilot> I've got LVM on one partition of one drive currently - the eventual plan is to throw a 2nd HDD in the machine and have a seamless /home
[11:51] <Ileden> acutally now that I've read more about LVM, it really seems like something I'd like to use regularly too :)
[11:51] <Callum_> I need to put a seamless /home on my machine, its annoying because every couple of months I reinstall my Linux distro, and starting out with different homes is annoying
[11:52] <Callum_> Actually, maybe I can load my home directory from my server...
[11:53]  * ikonia nods to Seveas
[11:53] <pranav> "/dev/sda6	/media/sda6	vfat	rw,users,exec	0	0" works but cant write into it ??
[11:54] <Seveas> hello ikonia
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> pranav:  the 'users' option lets users mount/unmount it.. You need to use the proper uid/gid/ options or umask/dmask/fmask options to set the proper permissions
[11:56] <pranav> Dr_Willis, how can I make it read/write by everyone ?
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> umask=007,gid=46
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> pranav:  as i said.. USE the proper options
[11:56] <ribatejo> metacity --replace did not restore my gnome desktop
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> umask=007 might do it...
[11:57] <ribatejo> xsession errors had errors regarding policies and permisions..
[11:57] <ribatejo> removing gnome soon
[11:58] <pranav> Dr_Willis, I am on the wiki page of fstab, but what does the 007 and 46 Implies ?
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> 007 is the umask option thats used to set the file permissions by default
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> gid sets the default group who owns the files
[11:59] <pranav> Dr_Willis, does 007 means 111 which is RW_
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> 007 sets everything to --> -rwxrwxrwx   here
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> ive seen examples use umask=0000 also or 0222
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> try the diffrent #'s and see what changes. :) that one way to learn it
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/117255/  umask tutorial
[12:01] <pranav> Dr_Willis, Ok :) I have sda1 which is NTFS so what do I do to automount it ?
[12:01] <pranav> Dr_Willis, different is ?
[12:01] <Ileden> Callum_, Madpilot: So the idea seems to be to create a volume group (VG) on the disk, then creating a logical volume (LV) on it. Is this LV then then something that can be formatted as ext3? Can that then be mounted with fstab regularly, or do I need to use some LVM system to mount it?
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> pranav:  change fileysstem to ntfs instead of vfat
[12:02] <pranav> Dr_Willis, thats it ?
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> pranav:  bsaically
[12:02] <pranav> Dr_Willis, :)
[12:02] <Dr_Willis>  and have the proper umask and other options
[12:02] <Madpilot> Ileden, I honestly can't remember. I set my current LVM arrangement up a year ago, and have since forgotten all the gory details... sorry.
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> 777 Default Permissions
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> -022 Subtract umask value, for example
[12:03] <Callum_> Ileden: I think so
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> =755 Allowed Permissions
[12:03]  * Callum_ checks his /etc/fstab of his CentOS server
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> Ive never understood why theres just not a 'filepermissions=755' option...
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> but i guess thers some OLD skool grandfathered in logic to it
[12:04] <Callum_> Ileden: yes
[12:04] <Callum_> here is an example from my /etc/fstab on my CentOS system
[12:04] <pranav> Dr_Willis, =)
[12:04] <wabi> hello
[12:04] <Callum_> /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 / ext3 defaults 1 2
[12:05] <craig> hello
[12:05] <wabi> I mount a samba share from our server via nautilus. When I try to access OpenOffice files from there they can't be loaded and can't be saved to this share. Any ideas?
[12:06] <DefineByte> what's the best way to stop sshd from loading automatically at boot? I want to start it from my own script instead, as required.
[12:06] <Ileden> Callum_: thanks! That makes sense. Well, it seems a simple LVM won't be beyond my skills after all... I'll have to try to be sure.
[12:07] <jrib> DefineByte: use sysv-rc-conf
[12:07] <Ileden> Need to do some backing up first, though. Just in case :)
[12:07] <jrib> DefineByte: or System -> Administration -> Services
[12:08] <DefineByte> jrib: thank you.
[12:08] <Darksoul69> I'm getting this error in wine X Error of failed request:  XF86VidModeExtensionDisabled
[12:08] <Darksoul69>  and I have been getting it since I setup VNC server to load up on boot rather then on signin..
[12:08] <Darksoul69> any ideas?
[12:08] <DefineByte> jrib: i don't have a gui
[12:08] <jrib> DefineByte: k, first one then :)
[12:08] <DefineByte> :)
[12:08] <Callum_> Ileden: no problem
[12:09] <thuglife999> Help required
[12:09] <AdvoWork> Hi there. ive got an ongoing problem that ive found no solutions for. I use terminal services in ubuntu to connect to a vista pc. Now and again, i have a problem where it looks like the shift key is being held down(windows opening in new rather than tabs etc). Its 100% related to this client, some how. Any ideas please?
[12:10] <jrib> !ask | thuglife999
[12:10] <thuglife999> I have a dual boot of win xp with ubuntu and i want to reinstall winxp
[12:10] <thuglife999> what steps do i need to follow
[12:10] <jrib> !grub > thuglife999
[12:10] <jrib> thuglife999: reinstall windows, then reinstall grub
[12:10] <thuglife999> jrib: i don't see any pvt message from you
[12:11] <thuglife999> ooh i got it
[12:11] <jrib> thuglife999: from ubottu, not me
[12:11] <nutttte> /list
[12:11] <thuglife999> jrib: i need to know i mean how to take the backup of grub and then how to write it back into winxp MBR
[12:11] <jrib> thuglife999: just reinstall it
[12:12] <jrib> thuglife999: follow the wiki
[12:12] <thuglife999> jrib: i am afraid i will surely lose things
[12:12] <jrib> thuglife999: you won't
[12:13] <thuglife999> ok let me read
[12:13] <jrib> thuglife999: back up your /boot/grub/menu.lst if you are worried but it shouldn't be overwritten if you follow the procedure on the wiki
[12:13] <thuglife999> jrib: that's i have done, if the backup means copy all the contents shown in munu.lst and save it some where else
[12:14] <jrib> thuglife999: sure
[12:14] <thuglife999> jrib: but lets suppose after reinstalling and getting xp back i won't see the same Gurb again coz its been over written
[12:14] <thuglife999> now i know that i have to use the live cd to access the ubutu terminal
[12:15] <thuglife999> now i have see sites tellllling diff things
[12:15] <jrib> thuglife999: well you would replace the menu.lst with  your backup, but that shouldn't change, you are just reisntalling grub to the mbr
[12:15] <thuglife999> how to recover from that saved file?????
[12:15] <jrib> thuglife999: come back here if that happens
[12:15] <thuglife999> jrib: ok listen
[12:16] <thuglife999> before i got for such procedure let me tell you what have i done till yet
[12:16] <pranav> Dr_Willis, should I write "ntfs-3g" instead of ntfs ?
[12:16] <thuglife999> jrib: i have copied all the contents of that file named menu.lst into seperate drive and its saved in .txt extension
[12:17] <thuglife999> and nothing else.... tell me ... is it fair to go straight for deleting winxp and reinstalling it ????
[12:17] <thuglife999> while i won't lose my ubuntu
[12:17] <jrib> thuglife999: yes, just make sure you tell the win xp not to mess with the ubuntu partitions
[12:18] <thuglife999> jrib: sure... i have a seperate partation for winxp and ubuntu
[12:18] <thuglife999> i am going to fromate my c drive which has winxp installed
[12:18] <Like> hi i cant load a web page .. i need too grab a midi web player in mozzila any idea who is it << http://paste.ubuntu.com/266596/
[12:18] <jrib> thuglife999: that will be fine
[12:18] <thuglife999> and then i am gonna formate that partation and create it back and then will install fresh winxp
[12:18] <thuglife999> jrib: is it fine what i have just said???
[12:19] <jrib> thuglife999: yes
[12:19] <thuglife999> ok jrib: i am going to del my windows
[12:19] <Like> http://paste.ubuntu.com/266596/
[12:20] <ikonia> Like: why are you pasting that ?
[12:20] <Like> in the Web browser i have trubbles
[12:20] <DefineByte> jrib: do you know if it's a bad idea to set it so the user can start/stop sshd? it seems by default admin privs are needed but that won't work for the script I'm writing.
[12:20] <Like> ikonia
[12:20] <ikonia> Like: what is the link
[12:20] <Like> otros codigos
[12:21] <ikonia> Like: what is the link
[12:21] <asm`> hey guys im in kubuntu and i minimized konquerer.. where the heck did it go?
[12:21] <asm`> i dont see it
[12:21] <jrib> DefineByte: well users may stop sshd and lock everyone out, right?
[12:21] <Like> link = http://www.google.com/cse?cx=014345598409501589908%3Amplknj4r1bu&ie=UTF-8&q=otros+codigos&sa=Search
[12:21] <DefineByte> true, but I'm the only user :D
[12:22] <ikonia> Like: that is a google search
[12:22] <Like> yep
[12:22] <jrib> DefineByte: doesn't matter then :)
[12:22] <ikonia> Like: what is the problem with it
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> Untill he locks himself out.
[12:22] <DefineByte> jrib: thanks again. :)
[12:22] <Like> i dont have a midi web..
[12:22] <ikonia> Like: what is a midi web ?
[12:23] <Like> ikonia is used too lisseng midi in web .. plug in called mozplugged
[12:23] <Like> ;)
[12:23] <ikonia> Like: playing midi files in the web - has nothing to do with a google search
[12:23] <AdvoWork> can i upgrade from Ubuntu 8.04.3 to the latest version easily or?
[12:24] <ikonia> AdvoWork: which version exactly
[12:24] <Like> ikonia I have trubbles after install that plug in in my consoleeeeeeee debuggeeeerrrr :@
[12:24] <ikonia> Like: that has nothing to do with a google search, please don't use silly words like consoleeeeeeee debuggeeeerrrr
[12:25] <Like> ok ty
[12:25] <AdvoWork> ikonia, im unsure, thats the version im using, dont know what to upgrade to?
[12:25] <ikonia> AdvoWork: well there is 8.10/9.04 and the beta 9.10
[12:26] <ikonia> AdvoWork: do you have some specific reason to upgrade
[12:27] <AdvoWork> ikonia, no particular reason, but isnt it a good idea?
[12:27] <DeannaT2> AdvoWork, with uname -r you got your version in terminal
[12:27] <ikonia> AdvoWork: you're on an LTS (long term support) versio of ubuntu, unless you have reason to upgrade to a non-LTS verson (8.10/9.04/9.10) I would not advise it as you'll be better served/supported on your current release.
[12:28] <AdvoWork> ikonia, ahh ok
[12:30] <DefineByte> Ok, I guess this question was inevitable: how do you set it so that a user can start/stop a service/daemon? It seems I'm the only person on the internet trying to do this. Maybe there's a reason for that. >.>
[12:30] <ikonia> DefineByte: create a sudo rule for that user/group
[12:30] <C--> hello
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> DefineByte:  one way would be to set up sudo to allow the 'service' command to be ran by that user. I think.
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> but that may allow all services..
[12:31] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: nope you can set the specific command
[12:31] <DefineByte> ikonia: i seem to remember doing somthing like that for halt. thanks, i'll have to look it up.
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> Why does a user even need to start/stop a service? what is your script doing.
[12:31] <ikonia> DefineByte: that's it, set it to a specific command and it will work fine, like halt
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:   so 'service ssh start' is valid :)
[12:31] <geekphreak> evening all
[12:32] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: totally
[12:32] <cornet> Dr_Willis: what's reason for this - I might be able to suggest something else
[12:32] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: or use the path to the init script
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> a 'bad' way would be to use 'suid' stuff. :)
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> cornet:  DefineByte  is trying to start stop a service as a user for some reason not me
[12:33] <cornet> wah
[12:33] <cornet> sorry
[12:33] <i00nsu> hi ppl, is possible to use DNS in a LAN that all PC's are in DHCP?
[12:34] <cornet> DefineByte: what's reason for this - I might be able to suggest something else
[12:34] <DefineByte> Dr_Willis: because i don't want sshd running all the time. It's for a jukebox so most of the time it's just playing music. :)
[12:34] <DefineByte> cornet: see ^ :)
[12:34] <ikonia> i00nsu: yes
[12:35] <DefineByte> maybe I'm just being paranoid
[12:35] <cornet> DefineByte: I think you probably are . Just run ssh, disable passwords, use keys and set UsePAM No  in sshd_config
[12:36] <grawity> cornet: Disabling PAM?
[12:36] <davide> Hi, Is it a known issue that Ubuntu 9.04 no longer connects to my network/internet after suspend function is used?
[12:36] <cornet> grawity: yes, or reconfigure PAM so that it doesn't allow passwords over ssh
[12:36] <humancomp> i m using 9.054 remix and its
[12:37] <humancomp> working correctly
[12:37] <cornet> grawity: if you've set a password for a user then even if you disable password auth in sshd_config it will STILL let you log in with a password as it'll pass PAM authentication
[12:37] <grawity> cornet: No, reconfigure _sshd_ - by disabling PasswordAuthentication.
[12:37] <i00nsu> ikonia: how? send me a link that explain that for me please
[12:37] <DefineByte> cornet: it's just, i've got a kernel without iptables configured and I thought it would be safest. I've already setup keys, disabled root login, disabled passwords. I'll look into PAM. thanks.
[12:37] <DefineByte> or not? do i not need to worry about that grawity?
[12:37] <grawity> cornet: I'll try :|
[12:37] <cornet> DefineByte: try logging in with password over ssh
[12:38] <DefineByte> i have and i can't
[12:38] <grawity> (Don't forget that you must restart sshd after editing configs)
[12:38] <DefineByte> yes, i set it up last week. i thinks it's solid
[12:38] <DefineByte> but never changed anything about PAM
[12:38] <cornet> humm, looks like this issue might have been sorted on ubunutu then
[12:39]  * cornet tests
[12:39] <grawity> cornet: Don't forget to disable KbdInteractiveAuthentication too.
[12:39] <DefineByte> what's that?
[12:39] <grawity> KbdInteractive kinda simulates a local login: it sends a prompt, you type a reply... (Usually, it's just one "Password:" prompt, but can be more.)
[12:40] <asm`> hey guys im in kubuntu and i minimized konquerer.. where the heck did it go? it disappears totaly.
[12:40] <davide> Hi, Is it a known issue that Ubuntu 9.04 no longer connects to my network/internet after suspend function is used?  Does anyone have this problem or has been able to work around it?
[12:40] <grawity> PasswordAuthentication, on the other hand, uses _only_ a single password.
[12:40] <grawity> So disable both.
[12:40] <DefineByte> well, i've set usepam to no anyway, i guess it can't hurt
[12:40] <DefineByte> thanks i'll ltry and find it :D
[12:40] <grawity> DefineByte: I recommend keeping PAM enabled.
[12:40] <DefineByte> really? x)
[12:41] <DefineByte> ok, why's that?
[12:41] <cornet> looks like i could be wrong
[12:42] <DefineByte> i'm not seeing anything about kbdinteractiveauth. should i create it?
[12:42] <Ileden> Ok, here's a beginnerish question: I was "mv"ing a directory to another volume, but had inefficient permissions for some of them. I'd now like to continue the mv with sudo permissions, but mv command fails because the destination already has a part of the original source... how do I do "mv" with appending the files?
[12:42] <ce_edan> opHa
[12:43] <C--> I hope i dont disturb.
[12:43] <C--> First of all i dont speek english very good, but i think you are able to understand me. ;)
[12:43] <C--> Now the question: i have created a bootable usb-device with unetbootin and if i install a program in the "Live - System", after shut down the program isnt installed more. Can i change it?
[12:43] <FloodBot2> C--: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:43] <C--> your C--
[12:43] <grawity> DefineByte: Yes, add a "KbdInteractiveAuthentication no" to sshd_config
[12:43] <DefineByte> grawity: is it case-sensitive?
[12:44] <grawity> DefineByte: Probably no.
[12:44] <human_> hello every one
[12:44] <geekphreak> human_: hello
[12:44] <C--> hello human_ :)
[12:44] <DefineByte> so KbdInteractiveAuthentication no UsePAM yes?
[12:44] <grawity> DefineByte: Yep
[12:44] <grawity> DefineByte: And PasswordAuthentication no, too
[12:44] <DefineByte> thanks a lot :)
[12:45] <human_> i installed the ubuntu in my new machine but after the installation gets completed it says display out of range>> Please help me out
[12:45] <Guest17020> f
[12:45] <grawity> C--: What unetbootin creates is basically the same as a LiveCD. To be able to save changes, you'll need to make it use a "persistent overlay"... I don't know how to set up one though.
[12:46] <DefineByte> grawity: seems like i've already set that. :)
[12:46] <DefineByte> so i'm locked now then? :)
[12:46] <DefineByte> once a restart sshd/
[12:46] <Ileden> I have: "source/dir/newfile" and "destination/dir/oldfile" - only with a huge amount of files. I want to move "mv source/dir destination/", but it fails because "destination/dir" already exists. How do I do this?
[12:47] <C--> grawity: perhaps sombody else knows it :) but thanks for your help
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> unetbootin cant make a peristant save from what ive seen. The Usb-creater tool in ubuntu can. or the scripts at pendrivelinux.org (com?) also tell you how
[12:47] <geekphreak> Ileden: name destination folder something else?
[12:48] <C--> where can i find the usb-creator
[12:48] <DefineByte> ok, i think i'll scrap the "user starting sshd" idea. thanks all. :)
[12:48] <grawity> What was the "user starting sshd" idea?
[12:49] <Ileden> geekphreak: I want the files to end up in the same place... also in reality there's a huge amount of subdirs too.
[12:49] <DefineByte> i was going to only start sshd in a user script if certain conditions were met.
[12:50] <cornet> grawity: well cheers for that. I can only assume i've missed that in the past because it's not documented in the man page sshd_config (useful)
[12:50] <geekphreak> Ileden: try mv -i /data /new_data
[12:50] <ribatejo> ot my gnome panels working but both: lxde and gnome panel
[12:50] <grawity> geekphreak: -n actually
[12:50] <human_> i installed the ubuntu in my new machine but after the installation gets completed it says display out of range>> Please help me out
[12:50] <silare> If I were interested in starting theming for GNOME, are there any places that have specific TUTORIALS/GUIDES that would help? >_>
[12:50] <grawity> cornet: These both are documented :|
[12:50] <geekphreak> grawity: aint -i interactive?
[12:50] <grawity> geekphreak: And you'd need to press [n] for every file.
[12:51] <cornet> grawity: KbdInteractiveAuthentication is not documented in sshd_config
[12:51] <geekphreak> grawity:  gotcha, ty :)
[12:51] <grawity> cornet: Huh...it isn't O_o
[12:52] <cornet> grawity: it's mentioned once w.r.t to "Match" and has a descrpition in ssh_config but not in sshd_config (where it should be IMO)
[12:52] <Ileden> grawity: -n is an invalid option...
[12:52] <grawity> Ileden: Probably GNU-specific then.
[12:52] <grawity>   -n, --no-clobber             do not overwrite an existing file
[12:52] <grawity> :/
[12:53] <C--> Dr_Willis, do you mean the program listed in System->Preferences ,that is called Make "USB Startup disk"?
[12:53] <geekphreak> :d
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> C--:  yes,
[12:53] <C--> thanks
[12:55] <Ileden> geekphreak: mv -i asks to overwrite "dir", and cannot do that since it's not empty...
[12:56] <Twinkletoes|W> After following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication, I still can't login using ldap against Active Directory.  The error I'm getting is "pam_unix(sshd:auth): check pass; user unknown".  Is there anything I should be looking at which might help solve this?
[12:56] <geekphreak> Ileden: hmmm
[12:57] <Ileden> I'd imagine this is a simple thing... moving from source to destination, appending to existing folders when appropriate.
[12:58] <spud|work> hi
[12:58] <spud|work> http://patrick.spacesurfer.com/ie_wine_install.html
[12:58] <spud|work> im following this, but my file ~/.wine/conf is empty
[12:58] <spud|work> is there some special place to find it in the ubuntu version?
[13:00] <Ileden> What I'm searching for is the move equivalent of "cp -a source/dir destination/"
[13:04] <Ileden> Oh well, I can just use cp, and remove the files after... but this seemed like something that would get a simple answer in few secs. :)
[13:05] <grawity> loz_: Yes - but don't forget that formatting destroys all data.
[13:05]  * ToreadorVampire is also a web dev and uses VirtualBox, booting up a WinXP VM as needed
[13:05] <grawity> C--: Yes, I think.
[13:05] <geekphre1k> hmm
[13:05] <geekphre1k> wierd
[13:05] <himanshurauthan> so crossover can work for IE 7 ??
[13:05] <C--> ok, then i will do it later, thanks :)
[13:05] <geekphre1k> himanshurauthan: yep
[13:05] <himanshurauthan> ok then I'll try it
[13:05] <C--> good by :)
[13:06] <geekphre1k> this is wierd
[13:06] <himanshurauthan> ok bye :)
[13:06] <loz_> grawity: so it does... well thanks for the info, i thought that might have been the problem, but it is strange as the problem has only occured since i freshly installed jaunty,do you think that it will speed transfer time up once formatted? the transfer time is round the 10 MB/s
[13:06] <grawity> loz_: I don't know about the speed :|
[13:07] <yancey> hellow,himanshurauthan ,i suggest you can try ¡°wine-doors¡± or ¡°playonlinux¡±¡·
[13:07] <asm`> how do i install kubuntu apps package?
[13:07] <loz_> grawity: well it's worth a try!
[13:07] <grawity> loz_: But it might be related to FAT32 too... it's a really old filesystem.
[13:08] <chrisb> loz_: hdparm will tell you if dma is set, maybe other optimisations as well.
[13:08] <loz_> grawity: i think gparted will tell me what file extension it is
[13:08] <kahen> yancey: your quotes are coming out horribly garbled here. try setting the encoding in your irc client to utf-8
[13:08] <grawity> loz_: Filesystem, not file extension
[13:08] <loz_> chrisb: do you have a command for me? i could not seem to get hdparm working
[13:09] <loz_> grawity: oops, my bad
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[13:09] <yancey> kahen: ok
[13:09] <asm`> how do i install ubuntu apps package?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> asm`: depends what apps you want
[13:10] <loz_> grawity: yep, it is fat32
[13:10] <chrisb> loz_: hdparm /dev/hda or hdparm /dev/sda
[13:10] <asm`> last i remembered ubuntu came with hundreds of apps
[13:10] <asm`> i installed kubuntu this time theres 0 apps pretty much
[13:11] <yancey> kahen: ok
[13:11] <RaaG> i want to install Team Viewer on Ubuntu
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> asm`: it comes with a fair few, you can run: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and get all the apps that come with ubuntu
[13:11] <kahen> yancey: or turn off any "friendly quotes" feature it may have. Word has a similar problem where it produces "nice" curly quotes that totally break things if you try and paste in a terminal :)
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> asm`: kubuntu comes with its own slew of apps
[13:11] <RaaG> for windows remote desktop
[13:12] <geekphre1k> RaaG: ubuntu has its own remote tools ;)
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> RaaG: its windows and mac only
[13:12] <loz_> chrisb: dev/sda:
[13:12] <loz_>  IO_support    =  0 (default)
[13:12] <loz_>  readonly      =  0 (off)
[13:12] <loz_>  readahead     = 256 (on)
[13:12] <loz_>  geometry      = 43777/255/63, sectors = 703282608, start = 0
[13:12] <FloodBot2> loz_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:12] <loz_> loz@lozgeek:~$
[13:12] <geekphre1k> hmmm
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> RaaG: ubuntu comes with rdesktop which you can use to connect the terminal services
[13:12] <IdleOne> !paste | loz_
[13:12] <JeoTheLeo> hello
[13:12] <asm`> i dont see them action
[13:13] <JeoTheLeo> I was checking my log and there seems to be a problem
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> asm`: see what?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> asm`: and tab complete my name ;)
[13:13] <asm`> ActionParsnip1: kubuntu apps.
[13:13]  * grawity kicks all three FloodBots.
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> asm`: look in the k menu
[13:14] <JeoTheLeo> every time I boot/reboot the kernel inspects system map and gives an error "Cannot find map file"
[13:14] <JeoTheLeo> how do I make a map file?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> asm`: kuuntu come with konqueror, amarok, kate, kwrite, dragon player etc
[13:14] <asm`> yea i see those, thats like 5-6 apps bro.
[13:14] <RaaG> ok but have any tool for remote desktop for view windows os
[13:15] <asm`> i coulda swore ubuntu came with option to install hundreds
[13:15] <grawity> ActionParsnip1: s/konqueror/Firefox+Dolphin/, I think.
[13:15]  * ZKoss laugh at floodbots xd
[13:15] <IdleOne> asm`: so does kubuntu
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> grawity: not sure really. i think its in there still. i dropped flakey kde a while back
[13:15] <asm`> idleone: okay how do i see them or install them?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip1> asm`: you can run either DEs apps in kubuntu or ubuntu, its all the same
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> fire up the package manager.. start installing...
[13:16] <IdleOne> asm`: using kubuntu's package manager. I don't know what it is called
[13:16] <ActionParsnip1> asm`: so if you want you can run dolphin in ubuntu, it doesnt matter
[13:16] <chrisb> loz_: hdparm /dev/sda has no dma output?
[13:16] <JeoTheLeo> every time I boot/reboot the kernel inspects system map and gives an error "Cannot find map file"
[13:16] <JeoTheLeo>  how do I make a map file?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip1> chrisb: try   hdparm -T /dev/sda
[13:17] <IdleOne> asm`: if you want specific kubuntu help you can also /join #kubuntu
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> I was thinking hdparm isent used as much as it used to be.
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> The dma stuff was supposed to be automatically enavbled these days
[13:18] <gnusar> i am struggling with changing the shared memory.... umount /dev/shm does return that the device is in use... fuse and lsof did not help to find the process accessing
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> JeoTheLeo: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-from-scratch-13/cannot-find-map-file-689274/page2.html
[13:18] <JeoTheLeo> thanks
[13:18] <loz_> chrisb: what does this mean?
[13:18] <jac0b> i was reading about the new 2.6.31 kernel. Can I get that on jaunty?
[13:19] <chrisb> loz_: try hdparm -T /dev/sda
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> When you specify the option --device-map (see Basic usage), the grub shell creates the device map file automatically unless it already exists. The file name /boot/grub/device.map is preferred.
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Device-map.html
[13:20] <gnusar> any thoughts on my shared memory issue? :)
[13:20] <chris|> jac0b, you can grab the kernel from Karmic and install it into Jaunty
[13:20] <jac0b> is that the supposed 2.6.31 that is supposed to speed up the computer
[13:21] <jac0b> I was reading it on digg lastnite
[13:21] <pranav> Anyone know a quite cool assembler for linux ?
[13:21] <pranav> like tasm
[13:21] <chris|> well, that depends on what you mean by "speed up the computer"
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> !find tasm
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> !info yasm
[13:22] <sipior> pranav: not often one sees "cool" and "assembler" in the same sentence.
[13:22] <geekphre1k> lol
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> 'jumbo shrimp'
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> :)
[13:23] <IdleOne> `windows security` :P
[13:23] <grawity> 'Microsoft Works'
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> 'user friendly'
[13:23] <kahen> 'military intelligence'
[13:23] <geekphre1k> IdleOne: window has security really?
[13:23] <Mez> hmm, anyone know some good software for creating network diagrams ?
[13:24] <grawity> geekphre1k: It does, just not by default.
[13:24] <geekphre1k> lol
[13:24] <spud|work> ill be honest with you guys, ive not had windows viruses since XP sp3
[13:24] <spud|work> before then it was unusable...
[13:24] <IdleOne> geekphre1k: My XP install says it is the safest and most secure windows ever
[13:24] <spud|work> lol
[13:24] <spud|work> all subjective terms, they can say what they like if its subjective.
[13:24] <IdleOne> but !ot
[13:25] <geekphreak> it is how you set it up i guess :)
[13:25] <spud|work> uhm wait, it does say "most secure *windows* ever"
[13:25] <mijap> lol you're talking about this buggy thingy called XP? :P
[13:25] <spud|work> well if you dont plug it into a network...
[13:25] <mijap> YUKK
[13:25] <kahen> IdleOne: well... their competition in that category wasn't doing so hot so it wasn't that hard to top
[13:26] <grawity> Compared to older releases, XP is secure. Compared to newer releases, XP is buggy. Compared to Linux... these things just can't be compared.
[13:26] <mijap> lol
[13:26] <chris|> jac0b, you should keep in mind though that 2.6.31 is still not stabe yet, so if you are not familiar juggling around with kernels you should probably wait for karmic to ship it
[13:26] <IdleOne> grawity: like comparing oranges to a Ferrari
[13:26] <yancey1> nick yancey
[13:27] <grawity> IdleOne: More like a truck to a Ferrari.
[13:27] <IdleOne> /nick yancey
[13:28] <jac0b> chris|, its cool I am just messing around I don't mind if it is not stable
[13:28] <Like> :))))))))))))
[13:28] <grawity> IdleOne: Actually, I've read _In The Beginning Was The Command Line_, it kinda compares Linux with a tank.
[13:28] <geekphreak> this kde install will take time :(
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> spud|work: just because they say it doesnt make it true ;)
[13:29] <yancey1> hellow,i'm back
[13:29] <chris|> jac0b, you can grab a kernel deb from http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/linux-image-2.6.31-9-generic
[13:29] <spud|work> ActionParsnip1: as i said, its subjective... you can say what you like if its an opinion
[13:29] <geekphreak> yancey1: welcome back :)
[13:29] <Murrlin> morning all
[13:29] <Murrlin> is this line valid?  cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#*
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> spud|work: indeed
[13:30] <Murrlin> if it is, then I'm just getting "none found" normally
[13:30] <spud|work> opinions are like anuses. everybody's got one but you dont want to listen to other peoples
[13:30] <geekphreak> grawity: for me windows and linux are like husband and wife, they never agree with each other :)
[13:30] <brent__> I messed up firefox.......... can anyone tell me how to uninstall it ... i need to do a fresh install of it
[13:30] <grawity> spud|work: +1, and /ubottu/factoids/offtopic
[13:30] <ActionParsnip1> spud|work: and no one opinion is more valid than another
[13:30] <yancey1> geekphreak : /nick yancey
[13:31] <geekphreak> yancey1: excuse me?
[13:31] <IdleOne> Dr_Willis: see what you started...all this !ot going on now
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Ok.. whch is better? vi or emacs? :)
[13:31] <grawity> Both.
[13:31] <geekphreak> Dr_Willis: hehe :)
[13:31] <IdleOne> NO!!!
[13:31] <yancey> geekphreak: thank you
[13:32] <spud|work> Dr_Willis: provide an objective, contextual definition of "better" and we will analyse the variables and give you a result.
[13:32]  * sipior goes for popcorn.
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> spud|work:  gets more chicks...
[13:32] <rabidweezle> what's the name of that app that gives you a mouse cursor in a tty console? it's like 2 or 3 letters like gm or something like that
[13:32] <brent__> anyone... help me uninstall firefox pleaseeeeeeee
[13:32] <yancey> :)
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> rabidweezle:  gpm
[13:32] <geekphreak> rabidweezle: gpm
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_Willis: then i'm better than both ;)
[13:32] <rabidweezle> thanks
[13:32] <rabidweezle> needed a little memory job
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> brent__: sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[13:32] <rabidweezle> jog*
[13:32] <IdleOne> brent__: why do you want to do that?
[13:33] <chrisb> brent__: how did you install it?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> brent__: if you want to delete old settings then run: rm -rf ~/.mozilla
[13:33] <brent__> i F'd it up
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> IdleOne: its a sucky memory hog?
[13:33] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip1: ok
[13:33] <IdleOne> +1 ActionParsnip1
[13:33] <brent__> i need to delete an add on............ but it won't let me get to the add on manager
[13:34] <JeoTheLeo> what should be written in device.map?
[13:34] <IdleOne> !highjack
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> brent__:   removeing firefox will not remove the USERS settings in their home dirs.
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> brent__: run: firefox -safe-mode   then uninstall the addon
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> JeoTheLeo:  http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Device-map.html
[13:34] <JeoTheLeo> thanks
[13:34] <brent__> start ubuntu in safe mode?
[13:35] <brent__> or can i open firefox in a safemode?
[13:35] <mobile_> exit
[13:35] <IdleOne> brent__: run in terminal firefox -safe-mode
[13:35] <spud|work> linux doesnt have a "safe mode" as such
[13:35] <spud|work> firefox does
[13:35] <rabidweezle> now here's a good one, I got 3 usb ports on this (new) laptop, when I stick my wireless mouse nub into port 3, it doesn't work, dmesg says it can't enumerate the device, when I stick it in 1 or 2, it works fine, any way to fix this?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> brent__: no start firefox in safemode
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> JeoTheLeo:  my devic.map = 2 lines..
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> hdparm -T /dev/sda
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> oops
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> (hd0)/dev/sda
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> (hd1)/dev/sdb
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> spud|work: it kinda does but i know what you mean
[13:35] <FloodBot2> Dr_Willis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:36] <geekphreak> Dr_Willis:  :)
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_Willis: hdparm needs sudo
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. spaces got ate up...
[13:36] <JeoTheLeo> I see
[13:36] <chrisb> spud|work: yeah! ... single user
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> (hd1)   /dev/sdb
[13:36] <spud|work> eww
[13:36] <spud|work> basically "safe mode" means disabling fancy smancy stuff which might go wrong; most oses have it.
[13:36] <spud|work> i dunno how you would do it in linux
[13:37] <geekphreak> ubuntu has recue mode , works good for me , i need it most times, heheh :)
[13:37] <geekphreak> rescue*
[13:38] <brent__> action parsnip-  where do i learn all those types of commands?
[13:38] <grawity> geekphreak: That's basically single user mode with an extra menu.
[13:38] <geekphreak> grawity: agreed
[13:39] <geekphreak> brent__: which types?
[13:39] <anr78> I need to get an USB-Ethernet adapter. Is there a resource I can consult to find out which ones work on Ubuntu?
[13:39] <brent__> well.... i don't really know any commands...
[13:39] <brent__> lol
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> brent__: experience lad.
[13:39] <brent__> i'd like to learn so i don't have to ask all the time
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> brent__: websearch when you need them
[13:40] <geekphreak> brent__: also learn to read man pages :)
[13:40] <brent__> haha yep I spent about an hour trying to fix it myself
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> !hcl | anr78
[13:40] <IdleOne> brent__: asking is how you learn
[13:40] <chrisb> brent__: google "fullcircle"
[13:41] <anr78> ActionParsnip1: thanks
[13:41] <brent__> parsnip--  firefox is fixed!
[13:41]  * rabidweezle notes that kubuntu might as well install firefox by default concidering every friggan installs it anyway
[13:41] <brent__> thank you
[13:41] <JeoTheLeo> ok I'm still lost
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> brent__: good lad
[13:41] <IdleOne> brent__: :)
[13:42] <brent__> i was looking for an add on that would allow me to see IE pages in firefox
[13:42] <brent__> so i installed one...
[13:43] <brent__> and it messed everyting up lol
[13:43] <chrisb> brent__: http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ for a start
[13:43] <brent__> thank you
[13:43] <Otacon22> Soneone can help me to understand how to do a reverse ssh tunnel?
[13:44] <brent__> i will have a look around
[13:44] <hugleo> hi
[13:44] <brez> Otacon22: what do you mean 'reverse' ssh tunnel?
[13:44] <grawity> brez, Otacon22: I guess the ssh -R option?
[13:44] <Otacon22> brez, my computer is behind a router and i want to put an apache server on my pc...
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> is a reverse tunnle a bridge?
[13:44] <hugleo> Are there a Grub package to Ubuntu 8.10 to support ext4 boot? I have other operating system in dual boot using ext4 partitions
[13:44] <brez> oh
[13:44] <Otacon22> so i want to connect myself by ssh to an external server
[13:45] <Otacon22> and then say to it to send connections from port 80 to my pc
[13:45] <Otacon22> understood?
[13:45] <brez> si
[13:46] <pranav> how to install just base system from ubuntu bootable disc ?
[13:46] <LjL> i have an ATI RV350 card and i was wondering if there's a way to check its temperature (no, i don't know whether it has a sensor in the first place)
[13:46] <IdleOne> !minimal
[13:46] <grawity> Otacon22: On the Apache server, ssh -R 80:apacheserveraddress:80 -- the first 80 is what port ssh will listen on; and don't forget that ports lower than 1024 require root access.
[13:46] <Otacon22> apacheserveraddress is the external server?
[13:47] <grawity> Otacon22: No, it's the server you're running Apache on.
[13:47] <Otacon22> so localhost
[13:47] <grawity> No :|
[13:47] <Otacon22> i can't access to here from the other server
[13:47] <grawity> Or... yeah, localhost _might_ work
[13:47] <geekphreak> take care all, cya :)
[13:47] <Otacon22> i have to start the connection from here
[13:47] <Otacon22> ssh -R 80:localhost:80 root@externalserveraddress
[13:49] <grawity> Otacon22: That should work.
[13:49] <grawity> Otacon22: If it doesn't, add a -v option.
[13:49] <Otacon22> -v ?
[13:49] <Otacon22> verbose
[13:49] <Otacon22> ok
[13:51] <pranav> can "dsl" use all packages of ubuntu repositories ?
[13:51] <LjL> pranav: why don't you ask in the DSL channel?
[13:53] <grawity> pranav: Is 'dsl' Debian-based?
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> DSL is not debian based last i checed
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> and its defaintaly not Ubuntu based
[13:53] <erUSUL> LjL: use sensors-detect to actually find out if there is a temp sensor in your vga card? (nice to see you again btw)
[13:53] <JeoTheLeo> anyone knows anything about the System map error?
[13:54] <LjL> hi erUSUL, yeah i've done it but it doesn't detect anything, but i didn't know whether i was supposed to in the first place
[13:55] <erUSUL> LjL: it does for my nvidia card. can not help further.
[13:55] <pranav> grawity, yes
[13:55] <sipior> JeoTheLeo: a System.map is generally built along with the kernel. have you recently built a new kernel on your machine?
[13:55] <David-T> anyone else having problems with clamav? Specifically /var/lib/clamav/main.cvd keeps getting corrupted somehow (i'm guessing due to freshclam), and so my mail silently grinds to a halt until i delete main.cvd & run freshclam... this only started happening a few weeks ago, but has now happened about 4 times...
[13:55] <JeoTheLeo> yes sipior
[13:55] <Akalbulusikus> How can i know the root password?
[13:56] <grawity> Akalbulusikus: There is none.
[13:56] <erUSUL> !root | Akalbulusikus
[13:56] <sipior> JeoTheLeo: then you can find a System.map in the build directory. place it in /boot, preferably renamed to match the current kernel version.
[13:56] <LjL> erUSUL: a forum i'm reading does hint there may not be any sensor in this card, i don't trust forums much but maybe it's not worth investigating further. i'm mostly just trying to find out what's the biggest culprit for my computer heating up the surrounding air 4°C =)
[13:57] <JeoTheLeo> errrm build directory?
[13:57] <erUSUL> LjL: we are heading to fall/winter... why comlaint for extra heat in he house XD
[13:57] <sipior> JeoTheLeo: where you put the source for the kernel you built :-)
[13:57] <pw-toxic> hi, i'd like to add a user to ubuntu, but i cant unlock the user administration
[13:57] <pw-toxic> the "unlock" button is inactive
[13:57] <JeoTheLeo> the CD?
[13:57] <LjL> erUSUL: true, but for now it's still hot, and it'll be summer again in 9 months :P
[13:58] <iElectric> hm, does ubuntu server not use bash as default shell?
[13:58] <grawity> pw-toxic: I don't know why it's so (not using Ubuntu now), but I can suggest 'adduser' as an alternative way.
[13:58] <sipior> JeoTheLeo: did you not build this kernel from source?
[13:58] <JeoTheLeo> yes, from the liveCD
[13:59] <JeoTheLeo> I didn't do it manually
[13:59] <sipior> JeoTheLeo: you don't mean "installed from a package" right?
[13:59] <sipior> JeoTheLeo: "build from source" means "compile the source code and install" :-)
[14:00] <JeoTheLeo> ohhh
[14:00] <JeoTheLeo> sorry for my misleading info then
[14:00] <JeoTheLeo> still a newbie, which I believe you already figured out :D
[14:00] <sipior> JeoTheLeo: no worries. do you have a System.map file in /boot?
[14:00] <JeoTheLeo> yes
[14:01] <JeoTheLeo> but for some reason the kernel always gives the error message in the log files
[14:01] <sipior> JeoTheLeo: which matches the kernel version that you just installed?
[14:01] <JeoTheLeo> "Cannot find map file."
[14:01] <JeoTheLeo> it's an update
[14:01] <pw-toxic> grawity, worked thanks
[14:02] <JeoTheLeo> an update from the version I installed
[14:02] <sipior> JeoTheLeo: you might try installing the latest kernel package from synaptic/apt-get
[14:05] <JeoTheLeo> it's up-to-date
[14:05] <JeoTheLeo> no new upgrades
[14:05] <lillis> hmm
[14:06] <dean> hello!
[14:06] <sipior> JeoTheLeo: what is the output of "dpkg -L linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic | grep System"? (mutatis mutandis)
[14:07] <Sidewinder1> !hi | dean
[14:07] <dean> hi,nice to meet you
[14:07] <Sidewinder1> Same here.
[14:07] <Otacon22> grawity, there is a problem: if i try to connect from the external server to my PC it works, but from internet it don't works
[14:07] <JeoTheLeo> well from the first look I'd say I don't have the latest update....I'll run it and post the output
[14:08] <JeoTheLeo> yup not installed
[14:08] <grawity> Otacon22: Ah, you need -g for that too... otherwise it only allows localhost.
[14:08] <Otacon22> ah
[14:08] <adam> how i can open rar archives?please help
[14:09] <Sidewinder1> With archive mgr.
[14:09] <adam> where i can get it?
[14:09] <Sidewinder1> !rar | adam
[14:10] <Sidewinder1> Archive mgr. should pop up if you double click on the .rar file
[14:10] <grawity> Hi_Really_long_: I don't want to know what word got cut off.
[14:10] <JeoTheLeo> sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic
[14:10] <JeoTheLeo> Reading package lists... Done
[14:10] <JeoTheLeo> Building dependency tree
[14:10] <JeoTheLeo> Reading state information... Done
[14:10] <JeoTheLeo> E: Couldn't find package linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic
[14:10] <FloodBot2> JeoTheLeo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:10] <Hi_Really_long_> ask
[14:11] <Sidewinder1> !ask | Hi_Really_long_>
[14:11] <Otacon22> grawity, still don't work...
[14:11] <grawity> JeoTheLeo: Is your sources.list correct? (This package is only in 'jaunty')
[14:11] <JeoTheLeo> ohh, I have intrepid ibex
[14:12] <Edson`> tgyhbyvi,n
[14:12] <Abhi69> hello
[14:12] <Abhi69> hi all!
[14:12] <Sidewinder1> Hi
[14:12] <Abhi69> i want to install internet explorer in ubuntu, any way?
[14:12] <adam> panic....respiratory  here open page and what next..where is download installation for rar software?
[14:12] <Abhi69> internet explorer 7 or 8
[14:12] <rishiVIII> plz dont
[14:12] <Sidewinder1> Through wine
[14:12] <JeoTheLeo> Abhi69, install wine
[14:13] <grawity> Abhi69: I don't think you can.
[14:13] <grawity> JeoTheLeo: Does v7 run on Wine?
[14:13] <Sidewinder1> But why would you want to?
[14:13] <JeoTheLeo> but honestly, IE?? :D
[14:13] <rishiVIII> i think you can through wine but ya why would you!?
[14:13] <sipior> JeoTheLeo: try "dpkg -L linux-image-$(uname -r) | grep System"
[14:13] <grawity> JeoTheLeo: Hey, v8 is even usable.
[14:13] <Abhi69> becoz i can't browse some of webpage without it
[14:13] <Abhi69> they are IE only page
[14:13] <grawity> rishiVIII: Web dev? Dumb sites?  You may need to add some extentions and add-ons to Firefox, but anything in IE will open play in FF!
[14:15] <JeoTheLeo>  /boot/System.map-2.6.27-14-generic
[14:15] <grawity> Sidewinder1: Even ActiveX?
[14:15] <Sidewinder1> Awh, come on...
[14:15] <Sidewinder1> Who'd want that insecure crap anyway?
[14:15] <grawity> Sidewinder1: I doubt Wine can run ActiveX.... and yes, it is _still_ being used :(
[14:15] <rishiVIII> ya active X on firefox
[14:15] <Abhi69> here is one- http://www.windows4all.com/
[14:16] <adam> so wine is not secure?
[14:16] <Abhi69> i can't open it with firefox
[14:16] <rishiVIII> there is a plugin for that
[14:16] <chrisb> JeoTheLeo: and you have
[14:16] <Sidewinder1> Wine is secure!
[14:16] <grawity> rishiVIII: But not on Linux.
[14:16] <sipior> JeoTheLeo: okay, so you have the appropriate System.map for the kernel you're running.
[14:16] <grawity> Windows4all requires Silverlight; does that have a Linux alternative? :|
[14:16] <Abhi69> moonlight
[14:16] <Abhi69> yes i know
[14:17] <JeoTheLeo> I read the device.map may be faulty if that error message occurs....but it doesn't seem faulty
[14:17] <Abhi69> it not working at all
[14:17] <Sidewinder1> http://www.windows4all.com/   Page opened just fine; no problems...
[14:17] <grawity> I doubt Silverlight is going to work on Wine.
[14:17] <JeoTheLeo> I'm thinking of doing an auto-map of all the partitions....
[14:17] <grawity> Sidewinder1: Yeah, and what does it list as a requirement?
[14:17] <osalcedo> hola a todos
[14:17] <bazhang> !es
[14:17] <arand> grawity: moonlight?
[14:17] <Abhi69> what about IEs4linux?
[14:18] <Abhi69> can i install it?
[14:18] <grawity> arand: <Abhi69?> moonlight
[14:18] <osalcedo> thanks
[14:18] <grawity> arand: <Abhi69?> it not working at all
[14:18] <adam> can you please give me instructions to install wine?
[14:18] <grawity> Abhi69: IEs4linux still won't have Silverlight, I guess.
[14:18] <Abhi69> hmm
[14:18] <grawity> adam: Accessories -> Terminal, "sudo apt-get install wine"
[14:18] <Sidewinder1> grawity>Since it's "winbloze4all" I didn't even bother to read it, but it opened (page) just fine... :-)
[14:18] <Abhi69> can i use it for other kind of browsing?
[14:19] <adam> thank You!
[14:19] <heogen> ubottu do you speak Spanish?
[14:19] <Abhi69> can i use IE4linux for regular web browsing?
[14:19] <Abhi69> like yahoo, facebook etc.
[14:19] <arvind_khadri> Abhi69, why what wrong with firefox?
[14:19] <Sidewinder1> !es | heogen>
[14:19] <grawity> Abhi69: Probably yes, but it is a bad idea :|
[14:20] <Abhi69> ok
[14:20] <Abhi69> i hav not windows in my machine
[14:20] <Abhi69> now i have to install it
[14:20] <Hi_Really_long_> u have a better so
[14:20] <Abhi69> very sad
[14:20] <heogen> ubottu don't worry i can understand English it was just a question
[14:20] <grawity> Hi_Really_long_: There is no "better".
[14:20] <Abhi69> i really hate windows
[14:21] <grawity> heogen: Ubottu is a bot - an automated program.
[14:21] <Abhi69> but now i have no other alternatives
[14:21] <chrisb> Abhi69: try it. then if no. uninstall/delete it. Nothing to lose, and you may learn something. :)
[14:21] <JeoTheLeo> ubottu, do you give your source code to anyone?
[14:21] <JeoTheLeo> :D
[14:21] <adam> in vine can i run any software from windows?
[14:21] <heogen> grawity, thank you for the information
[14:21] <Sidewinder1> Abhi69> If you install windoze AFTER ubuntu, you'll not be able to boot into ubuntu without repairing GRUB!!!
[14:21] <grawity> JeoTheLeo: I think it's just an ordinary infobot.
[14:22] <Abhi69> chrisb: thnz for advice
[14:22] <JeoTheLeo> yeah, met some interesting AI bots though
[14:22] <grawity> !ubottu > JeoTheLeo
[14:22] <arvind_khadri> JeoTheLeo, its been programmed using supybot
[14:22] <Abhi69>  i have to repair grub using live CD
[14:22] <Sidewinder1> !wine | <adam>
 WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[14:22] <Abhi69> i know this
[14:22] <JeoTheLeo> nice, thanks grawity
[14:22] <grawity> Abhi69: How about VirtualBox? It will be enough for using Internet Explorer...
[14:23] <yabuk> I've tow user's account, I want one to be in English and other in German, when I use languages manager to set one, it change both accounts, how do I get differs languages on this accounts?
[14:23] <Sidewinder1> Ok. just wanted to make sure that you knew what you were getting into, :-)
[14:23] <adam> sudo apt-get install beryl
[14:23] <adam> 5    here is problem ????
[14:23] <Abhi69> grawity: virtualbox is a good idea
[14:24] <grawity> adam: I think Beryl has now merged to COmpiz.
[14:24] <cyber_666_uk> hey guys, im looking for a way to tell how much memory a program is using, similar to windows task manager, is there such a thing in linux?
[14:24] <grawity> adam: And Compiz comes with Ubuntu.
[14:25] <brent__> what's the command for safe mode in shiretoko... anyone know?
[14:25] <x404x> I have trouble with samba, i set it all up same as i did last time when it worked, same smb.conf file and smbusers, added user to samba and admin and yet it refuses to log me in, any ideas what could be wrong ?
[14:25] <JeoTheLeo> nothing beats wobbly windows
[14:25] <brent__> same as for firefox?
[14:25] <adam> what is the best virtual box   and please give me command to install it in terminal?
[14:25] <chrisb> cyber_666_uk: top
[14:25] <grawity> JeoTheLeo: Scale + a ton of gnome-terminal windows
[14:25] <ooo> how do I create a personal proxy node I can use when mobile on my netbook. My PC is on 24/7 at home running the most recent ubunutu.
[14:25] <cyber_666_uk> chrisb: is that a command?
[14:25] <JeoTheLeo> :D
[14:25] <chrisb> cyber_666_uk: yep
[14:26] <cyber_666_uk> top programname
[14:26] <deany> adam,  virtualbox.org
[14:26] <grawity> ooo: For what purpose?
[14:27] <chrisb> cyber_666_uk: no just top, press u then type in user programe is running under
[14:27] <haiba> hello
[14:27] <adam> thank you deany
[14:27] <thedoor> how can i set diferent idioms to diferent users in the same ubuntu instalation?
[14:28] <grawity> thedoor: "idioms"?
[14:28] <ooo> I have repetedly hit the firewall with vodafone (content control) and even though they claim it's turned off, it stops me visiting some site, using a proxy I can by pass it, however all public ones are also blocked.
[14:28] <adam> i dont now what version ubuntu i install and heave right now..i heave 64 bit computer..how i can check this?
[14:29] <grawity> ooo: For that, the best way would be to install openssh-server, and use that instead of a proxy.
[14:29] <deany> adam, lsb_release -a
[14:29] <adam> i dont now what version ubuntu i install and heave right now..i heave 64 bit computer..how i can check this?
[14:29] <thedoor> grawity, languages :)
[14:29] <grawity> adam: Try uname -a
[14:29] <ooo> grawity: ok, I'll note than, and I'll look it up when I get home. is it easy to setup?
[14:29] <adam> i dont now what version ubuntu i install and heave right now..i heave 64 bit computer..how i can check this?
[14:30] <grawity> ooo: For tunnelling, not much setup is needed...
[14:30] <grawity> ooo: Wait, wait :|
[14:30] <ooo> ok, cool. many thanbks
[14:30] <ooo> ok
[14:30] <cyber_666_uk> great chrisb thx - is there a GUI avaiable in synaptic or somewhere that you're aware of?
[14:30] <grawity> ooo: Are you connecting from Windows, Linux, or a mobile phone, or whatever?
[14:30] <adam> i need now that is 32 or 64  ubuntu  how check it
[14:30] <ooo> I sometimes use all 3
[14:30]  * grawity screams "Count the damn bits" at adam
[14:30] <chrisb> cyber_666_uk: GUI for top?
[14:31] <sipior> grawity: :-)
[14:31] <gnubie> adam uname -m
[14:31] <cyber_666_uk> chrisb: yeah
[14:31] <grawity> chrisb: Look for "System monitor" in the System -> Administration menu.
[14:32] <cyber_666_uk> grawity: exactly what i was after thx
[14:32] <grawity> SSH tunneling is good for a proxy when you have Windows or Linux... but won't work for mobile phones :|
[14:32] <ooo> grawity: sometimes win, sometimes from my nokia running opera brower, and sometimes mint.
[14:32] <theoros> i realise this may not be the correct channel, but if a disk is partitioned, are the boot sectors for the VBR of the non-bootable partitions left free so that they can be made bootable?
[14:32] <ooo> grawity: the mobile is a non-issue really
[14:33] <ooo> grawity: i'll have a play later, many thanks
[14:33] <grawity> ooo: for Windows/Linux/OSX, use the 'ssh -D 1080 yourbox' command to connect to your computer.
[14:33] <adam> i686
[14:33] <adam>    this is 64 bit version?
[14:33] <ooo> ok, ta
[14:33] <grawity> ooo: (Once you have openssh-server installed on that, of course.)
[14:34] <ooo> :)
[14:34] <JeoTheLeo> sipior, any ideas on the map file?
[14:34] <grawity> ooo: Then set your browser to use a SOCKS (*not* HTTP) proxy on <IP_ADDRESS> port 1080. Those are the basics.
[14:34] <Sidewinder1> theoros>This is the right place and I THINK, the answer to your question is yes.
[14:34] <ooo> cool. ta
[14:34] <gnubie> adam  x86_64 is the 64bit
[14:34] <sipior> JeoTheLeo: it's not really a critical error. you can try reinstalling the kernel package, but it doesn't really hurt anything.
[14:34] <grawity> ooo: If you do need a HTTP proxy for your phone, Polipo isn't that hard to set up... Squid is very popular, but might be too bug.
[14:34] <grawity> too big*
[14:35] <suffe> I'm running ubuntu on PPC and I need to upgrade PHP to the CVS version to avoid a bug in date(). Any good servers for pre-made ubuntu packageS?
[14:35] <gnubie> adam  you have the 32bit installed
[14:35] <JeoTheLeo> it slows the startup, it's not a critical error, but I'm afraid if I update to jaunty or so, it would cause problems...
[14:35] <sipior> JeoTheLeo: i doubt it matters.
[14:36] <JeoTheLeo> well, I'll leave it at that then :D....thanks for your help eh
[14:36] <Sidewinder1> Easy question, in X-Chat, how do I increase the font size in the main display window?
[14:36] <ooo> grawity: :) ok, I'll have play later, can test it too then. at work at moment so can't access it till then.
[14:36] <ooo> grawity: laters
[14:36] <Spike1506> Sidewinder1, settings -> preferences
[14:36] <adam>  o my Good...i see here is everything...Jesus.... i dont think i back to windows anymore..
[14:36] <JeoTheLeo> just out of curiosity, how do I reinstall the kernel package?
[14:36] <ubuntistas> y does my pidgin calls doesn't exist?
[14:36] <sanguisdex> so I plugged in my head set to skype yesterday and today when I rebooted the ony sound I can get it through them.  how can I fix this?
[14:37] <grawity> ubuntistas: What version of Pidgin are you using?
[14:37] <ubuntistas> 2.6.1 grawity
[14:37] <grawity> ubuntistas: And what protocol? Even 2.6.1 only supports voice in Google Talk / XMPP.
[14:37] <Sidewinder1> Spike1506> Thank you very much; now I can read the bloddy thing
[14:37] <Spike1506> Sidewinder1, yw
[14:38] <ubuntistas> aha ok
[14:38] <ubuntistas> neither empathy work with Gcalls grawity
[14:39] <felipe__> I downloaded OpenOffice for Ubuntu. How I install it?
[14:39] <Nolan> why dont you try installing it through add/remove felipe
[14:39] <grawity> felipe__: Better would be to install it from Ubuntu repositories, not from the website.
[14:39] <arvind_khadri> felipe_, there is a version of it in the repo..
[14:39] <Sidewinder1> adam just discovered Synaptic :-)
[14:39] <arquebus> felipe- its should already be installed on ubuntu by default
[14:40] <grawity> felipe__: (There's an Add/Remove menu item under Applications.)
[14:40] <felipe__> in fact
[14:40] <felipe__> i'm installing BROffice, the portuguese version of openoffice
[14:40] <felipe__> i didn't find it in the repository
[14:40] <grawity> Did it come in a .deb, or .tar.gz, or something else?
[14:40] <felipe__> .tar.gz
[14:40] <felipe__> with a lot of .deb inside
[14:41] <grawity> On Ubuntu, .debs usually can be installed by double-clicking.
[14:41] <grawity> Or if you prefer the terminal - sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[14:41] <adam> tell me how change please resolution screen..and why nvidia app cant turn on my dual second monitor
[14:42] <Guest20857> where do i make it single clicks to open documents and run apps?
[14:43] <felipe__> grawity, it's working
[14:43] <felipe__> thank you
[14:44] <felipe__> i'm new to linux. trying to learn yet.
[14:44] <deany> Guest20857, nautilus preferences
[14:44] <ubuntistas> neither empathy work with Gcalls grawity
[14:44] <muammal> irc.efnet.net
[14:45] <Guest20857> deany: thanks, and where are they hidden?
[14:45] <deany> Guest20857, what?
[14:46] <Guest20857> deany: nm foudn the nautilus preferences thanks
[14:47] <Otacon22> grawity, still works only in local :((
[14:49] <felipe__> grawity, it seens it didn't work
[14:50] <adam> missing scr. res. in sys. prefs.   how change resolution
[14:50] <temporarytao> hello, anyone know of a good app for syncing an ipod shuffle 4g through ubuntu?
[14:51] <gNOn> have someone tested to install ubuntu through this? http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux
[14:51] <jasa> Hey, anyone wanna help me quickly on one test thing privately ? It's related to voting on thing that has timer ... ?
[14:51] <adam> nvidia x server   i can turn on on any way second monitor
[14:52] <felipe__> anyone here uses BR-Office?
[14:53] <JeoTheLeo> $curStable
[14:55] <JeoTheLeo> $curStable
[14:55] <JeoTheLeo> btw, what's the best irc client?
[14:55] <IdleOne> !best
[14:55] <grawity> There is none.
[14:55] <IdleOne> !irc
[14:55]  * grawity likes irssi
[14:55] <IdleOne> !xchat
[14:55] <Otacon22> xchat
[14:56] <JeoTheLeo> noooo. xchat is horrible
[14:56] <IdleOne> JeoTheLeo: irssi for text client and xchat-common for GUI IMHO
[14:56] <JeoTheLeo> till now I find Konversation to be the best
[14:56] <JeoTheLeo> irssi, didn't try irrsi
[14:56] <IdleOne> JeoTheLeo: well then you know nothing about irc :P
[14:56] <adam> how turn on 2 monitor please
[14:56] <JeoTheLeo> lol
[14:56] <eueu> Hello, do you know of a shell interactive interface with rdiff-backup?
[14:57] <jasa> adam, did it say anything on like it has 12 hours cooldown ?
[14:57] <JeoTheLeo> 2 monitors, neat!
[14:57] <IdleOne> !xrandr | adam
[14:58] <IdleOne> errr that isnt it is it?
[14:58] <abhilashm86> i'm not able to use USB device while using virtualbox, my host is ubuntu and guest os is MS, please tell howto use usb in guest os......
[14:58] <ZKoss> adam: connect it to the powerline? joking
[14:58] <ZKoss> IdleOne: is right
[14:58] <IdleOne> \o/
[15:00] <JeoTheLeo> irssi looks nice :D
[15:00] <arvind_khadri> abhilashm86, do you have the guest additions instaleed?
[15:00] <abhilashm86> arvind_khadri: no what those things means?
[15:00] <IdleOne> JeoTheLeo: irssi website has an extensive FAQ also
[15:01] <jakobbg> Hi. I'm looking for a way to make less ONLY stop for 'q' command if a pipe output actually displays anything. Is this possible?
[15:01] <arvind_khadri> abhilashm86, they are scripts, which help the user getting usb and other stuffs work
[15:01] <abhilashm86> arvind_khadri: i've enabled usb, shared folders, i'm using sun virtualbox.........
[15:01] <arvind_khadri> abhilashm86, more in #virtualbox
[15:02] <abhilashm86> arvind_khadri: oh ok fine, do i need to run those scripts in ubuntu-host OS
[15:02] <felipe__> !mp3
[15:02] <Vero> iTunes <IP_ADDRESS> stopped
[15:02] <abhilashm86> arvind_khadri: i'll move to #virtualbox
[15:02] <arvind_khadri> abhilashm86, no in the guest os
[15:02] <suigeneris> how do I set resolution on 9.04?
[15:02] <IdleOne> !fixres | suigeneris
[15:03] <Sidewinder1> adam> Check your PM
[15:03] <abhilashm86> arvind_khadri: hmm can u just give me link to how to do this? please.....
[15:03] <jon5000> greetings.  can anyone tell me whether there is a driver yet for ATI Radeon Mobility X300 video cards that is fully functional (3D) for Ubuntu 9.04??
[15:03] <IdleOne> abhilashm86: type /join #virtualbox and he will explain
[15:04] <abhilashm86> Idleone: ok done:)
[15:06] <suigeneris> xrandr --output VGA --mode 1024×768 --rate 60 says xrandr: cannot find mode 1024×768 but xrandr lists it. how come?
[15:07] <felipe__> Amarok can't install because it is conflic with another application.
[15:09] <bigmack83> im attempting to install zend-pe package, when installing it asked me for my java-jre bin, which it had not installed first. but now i cant quit the install process for the package so I can install the proper files. how can I stop the install so i can install them?
[15:09] <pedrailla> hi
[15:10] <cherva> can someone help me forward a port with iptables... I need to forward port 81 to <IP_ADDRESS>:80 and I try like this: /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i ppp0 -d <IP_ADDRESS> --dport 81 -j DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[15:10] <cherva> /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i ppp0 -d <IP_ADDRESS> --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[15:11] <pedrailla> hello, may someone could help me?
[15:12] <felipe__> Amarok can't install because it is conflic with another application. How I discover what application is this?
[15:13] <lovre> need some help... my printer is not responding... it was working few days ago, i guess before some updates or something.. now its not responding, status is Stopped all the time.. can someone help me with this??
[15:13] <tony99> is there a default root pw
[15:13] <suigeneris> xrandr --output VGA --mode 1024×768 --rate 60 says xrandr: cannot find mode 1024×768 but xrandr lists it. how come?
[15:13] <sipior> tony99: no.
[15:14] <felipe__> HELP: Amarok can't install because it is conflic with another application. How I discover what application is this?
[15:14] <pedrailla> help please: I chmod an executable file to 777, then try to run it and it sais "No such file or directory"
[15:14] <tony99> do i have to set the pw.....how do i do that
[15:14] <sipior> felipe_: normally the package manager reports which package is causing the trouble. how are you installing amarok?
[15:15] <sipior> tony99: no, you can gain superuser privileges through "sudo", using your own password.
[15:15] <sipior> tony99: (assuming your account is in the admin group, of course :-)
[15:15] <david_hacc> le nom de la machine des batch ?
[15:15] <tony99> i cant login as root at all
[15:15] <tony99> ?
[15:16] <kingnerd> tony99, you need to set it up
[15:16] <kingnerd> do sudo passwd su
[15:16] <sipior> tony99: try "sudo -i" for a root shell, but generally best to prefix commands with sudo.
[15:16] <IdleOne> !fr | david_hacc
[15:16] <kingnerd> But Ubuntu doesn't have it by default for a reason
[15:16] <RuSH4ck3R> pedrailla: use ./filename instead of filename
[15:16] <kingnerd> sorry sudo passwd root, where is my brain
[15:16] <heogen> hi, how to read .iso?
[15:17] <cherva> heogen: mount it as a cd rom
[15:17] <zaggynl> gmount-iso heogen
[15:17] <zaggynl> http://hacktivision.com/index.php/2008/02/24/how-to-mount-iso-images-in-ubuntu-the-ea?blog=2