[07:30] <tritium> rredd4: 26 is in there now?  Good, sounds like the dpkg-reconfigure worked
[07:30] <rredd4> not 26
[07:30] <sledmouth> omg
[07:30] <rredd4> thought u meant menu.lst
[07:31] <sledmouth> is there 26 recovery?
[07:31] <sledmouth> or no 26 at all
[07:31] <rredd4> no 26 in boot grub  only in menu.lst
[07:31] <rredd4> do not see 26 anything when I reboot
[07:32] <tritium> rredd4: please put your menu.lst on pastebin
[07:32] <rredd4> only 23
[07:32] <cajole> hey, i just put in a new motherboard and for some reason GDM wil no longer start
[07:32] <cajole> and the rror message doesn't shed any light on the situation
[07:32] <cajole> any suggestions?
[07:32] <squidgy> Warbo:  I see...thanks.  So given that this is linux, is there a possiblity that I can go poking around somewhere in /dev or /proc to access the volume at a more low level?  (I can't really use the system if it has no sound, and I really don't want to switch back to XP)
[07:32] <tritium> cajole: did you look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[07:32] <rredd4> tritium  how do I paste the whole file, its big?
[07:33] <tritium> rredd4: can you open it in an editor, and copy/paste it all?
[07:33] <rredd4> ok, brb
[07:33] <cajole> tritium: it's running Xfree :\
[07:33] <z2> how do I configure my ubuntu machine to have a static address ?
[07:34] <z2> *ip
[07:34] <tritium> cajole: what are you running?  Warty?
[07:34] <cajole> yea
[07:34] <ajax4> I got a question. Whats the latest news on how the Debian exploit affects Ubuntu users?
[07:35] <Flannel> cajole: Warty is actually no longer supported.  You're encouraged to upgrade.
[07:35] <Flannel> ajax4: it wont
[07:35] <z2> why would a exploited debian dev server affect ubuntu?
[07:35] <cajole> righto
[07:35] <notamisfit> ajax4: possible kernel vulnerability. Other than that, not much.
[07:35] <cajole> being on diaup makes that pretty difficult
[07:35] <cajole> :(
[07:35] <tritium> cajole: are you using onboard video?
[07:35] <cajole> no,
[07:35] <ajax4> Has Ubuntu put out anything on this?
[07:36] <Flannel> cajole: heh, shipit can send you pressed CDs, and, someone may still be able to help, but modern ubuntus use x.org, so things are a bit different
[07:36] <rredd4> !pastebin
[07:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:36] <tritium> cajole: could it be that you disabled onboard video on your old mobo, but not this new one?
[07:36] <ajax4> z2: Ubuntu is based on Debian, so its possible.
[07:36] <cajole> could be, never had an onboard video
[07:36] <Warbo> squidgy: Sorry, I was reading something. I don't think OSS is enabled in Ubuntu's kernels, so anything would be ALSA. It really seems like a driver thing to me, rather than a settings problem
[07:37] <z2> ajax4: that they share dev servers ?
[07:37] <tritium> cajole: double check your BIOS settings, then
[07:37] <z2> ajax4: dont think so, stop trolling and go read something
[07:37] <Flannel> ajax4: we don't really share source with debian, Unless something has been inserted, and is still unfound in time for... well, a few months
[07:37] <cajole> righto
[07:37] <tritium> cajole: by the way, even XFree has a log file in /var/log
[07:37] <cajole> thx
[07:37] <sledmouth> cajole: type 'lspci' in terminal and look for vga
[07:37] <rredd4> tritium  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17977
[07:37] <ajax4> z2: Who's trolling? I'm asking a question. And what do you recommend I read, since you obviously have no answers?
[07:38] <tritium> z2: I wouldn't call ajax4's question trolling
[07:38] <Phaqui> how come I had to  sudo apt-get install traceroute  .. or to ask another way; why isn't it "included by default"?
[07:38] <tritium> smile, everyone
[07:38] <ajax4> tritium: Thanks. I'm just wondering how concerned I should be.
[07:38] <z2> ajax4: are you running anything mission critical ?
[07:38] <tritium> ajax4: really, there's no need to worry.  It was a debian development server.  Not even debian users are affected
[07:39] <aldo> Hi. Yesterday I tried the kubuntu desktop, but now I want to restore the original ubuntu orange startup splash screen. How can I do?
[07:39] <ajax4> z2: Nah, just my home system.
[07:39] <rredd4> tritium  i also have kubuntu, just checking it out
[07:39] <Flannel> ajax4: not very.  Definately not with dapper, at that.  It'd be edgy (or maybe edgy+1, I dont know if theyre still following the source with edgy)
[07:39] <z2> ajax4: so what does it matter?
[07:39] <z2> ajax4: http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/253
[07:39] <godtvisken> Is there a light/fast bittorrent client like uTorrent for linux?
[07:39] <Flannel> z2: you need to lighten up.  He's just asking a question.
[07:39] <pppoe_dude> godtvisken, bittornado
[07:40] <ajax4> z2: Right, people's home systems don't matter.
[07:40] <tritium> rredd4: 26 is there now
[07:40] <snoops> ktorrent I believe is supposed to be pretty similar godtvisken
[07:40] <pppoe_dude> godtvisken, also check out ktorrent for kde
[07:40] <z2> sorry for being harsh
[07:40] <rredd4> yeah but when i reboot??
[07:40] <godtvisken> ok
[07:40] <rredd4> I will reboot again.. brb
[07:40] <ajax4> z2: I'll check out the securityfocus.com site. Thanks.
[07:40] <snoops> bittornado is still one window per torrent right? Doesn't even have tabs?
[07:40] <interfear> hrm.. whats a good movie to dl on torrent
[07:40] <sledmouth> rredd4 , u stated on 23 and memtest; what about windoze and debian , do they show up?
[07:40] <ajax4> Flannel & Tritium: thanks for the info.
[07:40] <z2> but I work at a large corporation and stupid security questions annoy me
[07:40] <rredd4> tritium  yes
[07:41] <tritium> ajax4: :)
[07:41] <z2> cause I get them all day
[07:41] <tritium> rredd4: so what's the problem now, then?
[07:41] <rredd4> no 26
[07:41] <tritium> rredd4: it's there...look for yourself
[07:41] <snoops> interfear Elephants Dream
[07:41] <squidgy> Warbo:  it appears that I'm running a driver called "snd_hda_intel", which I imagine has been tested right into the ground since it's probably on every intel mobo made in the last few years.  Is there something I can do to attack this?  I'm a competent programmer but I'm new to linux and hence just don't know where to start.
[07:41] <sledmouth> rredd4 , u stated on 23 and memtest; what about windoze and debian , do they show up?
[07:41] <rredd4> but its not there when i reboot  as a choice
[07:41] <rredd4> yes
[07:42] <Cntryboy> Im wanting to install xgl, but the site im reading says to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but I have 2.1KB and its almost 200mb, the site states I need to get the latest mesa packages. Is there away I can upgrade just the latest mesa packages?
[07:42] <rredd4> only 23 windoze, memtest, recovery
[07:42] <rredd4> no 26
[07:42] <sledmouth> no debian either?
[07:42] <rredd4> even though its in menu.lst
[07:42] <rredd4> thats kubuntu not debian
[07:43] <z2> weird
[07:43] <rredd4> kubuntu is there also
[07:43] <z2> whats the default root pass in ubuntu ?
[07:43] <snoops> Cntryboy think you're gonna need more free space dude
[07:43] <Cntryboy> I have the space
[07:43] <rredd4> brb  gonna reboot again
[07:43] <Cntryboy> but I don't have the bandwith
[07:43] <rredd4> poof
[07:43] <Cntryboy> Can I just get the mesa packages, instead of a full distro upgrade?
[07:43] <snoops> should just be able to apt-get install'them
[07:44] <Cntryboy> what are the names of the mesa packages?
[07:44] <tritium> Cntryboy: often times, packages have dependencies that'll require many, many packages to be upgraded as well
[07:44] <isthisnicktaken> Warbo: didnt seem to work and the help wasnt much help :(
[07:44] <Cntryboy> well has anyone here got xgl working with out distro upgrade?
[07:44] <snoops> but at the moment compiz, xgl and the associated mesa packages etc are getting updated every couple of days, if not every day
[07:44] <snoops> it's still in alpha
[07:44] <isthisnicktaken> How can I tell which driver it is using?
[07:44] <Kirk_> Hi
[07:45] <Kirk_> Question.  Does anyone know where the bind9 configuration file is?  If not, what is the syntex for some search command in Ubuntu Breezy?
[07:45] <Cntryboy> snoop: do I need them though?
[07:46] <snoops> Cntryboy considering it being alpha software.. yeah
[07:46] <isthisnicktaken> Can someone tell me how to tell which video driver is being used?
[07:46] <Kirk_> Hey, sorry...lol
[07:46] <Kirk_> Anyway
[07:46] <rredd4> tritium  26 is not there only 23
[07:46] <snoops> glxinfo isthisnicktaken?
[07:46] <rredd4> sledmouth  26 is not there only 23
[07:47] <Cntryboy> okay ill try it
[07:47] <Kirk_> Does anyone know where the bind9 configuration file is, or what command I can use to find it?  It's called "named.conf".
[07:47] <Cntryboy> if wierd stuff starts happening
[07:47] <Cntryboy> how can I turn off xgl
[07:47] <Cntryboy> or uninstall it or what ever
[07:47] <rredd4> tritium  and of course other stuff... kubuntu, windoze memtest
[07:47] <Flannel> Cntryboy: #ubuntu-xgl for xgl support.  And, it depends on how you enable it
[07:47] <z2> any idea how to scroll up in irssi ?
[07:47] <sledmouth> rredd4 are u certain grub doesn't think /boot is on a different part than that of your ubuntu /
[07:48] <isthisnicktaken> snoops: client glx vendor string: ATI does that mean the "ati" not "radeon" driver
[07:48] <Kirk_> Does anyone know where the bind9 configuration file is, or what command I can use to find it?  It's called "named.conf".
[07:48] <Cntryboy> flannel: no one is speaking there
[07:48] <sledmouth> like ur kubuntu part perhaps
[07:48] <Cntryboy> been idle there for awhile
[07:48] <rredd4> sledmouth  different partition you mean?
[07:48] <sledmouth> yes
[07:48] <kelbizzle> hey  anyone know why wine will open a window then close before the details can ever load.
[07:48] <rredd4> sledmouth  I showed you fstab
[07:49] <scabootssca> how do i mount a linuc harddrive?
[07:49] <scabootssca> in live cd
[07:49] <sledmouth> boot into kubuntu and change menu.lst there for the heck of it
[07:49] <rredd4> ok, brb
[07:49] <Kirk_> Does anyone know where the bind9 configuration file is, or what command I can use to find it?  It's called "named.conf".
[07:49] <Cntryboy> flannel: Im using kde, do I need to get xserver-xgl also?
[07:49] <kelbizzle> hey kirk you can do a seach.
[07:50] <Kirk_> kelbizzle: What's the context for a search command?
[07:50] <notamisfit> Kirk_:updatedb and slocate <filename>
[07:50] <kelbizzle> there you go.
[07:50] <VirusDotNET> how can i change my screen resolution cause i don't want 1280x 769 or whatever it is
[07:50] <Kirk_> notamisfit: thanks, I'll try that.
[07:51] <Kirk_> Errored out.
[07:51] <isthisnicktaken> client glx vendor string: ATI ----does that mean the "ati" not "radeon" driver
[07:51] <Kirk_> sudo: slocate: command not found
[07:51] <Kirk_> sudo: slocate: command not found
[07:51] <notamisfit> scabootssca:make a temporary dir in mnt; then (for example): mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu
[07:51] <sledmouth> just 'locate'
[07:51] <IcemanV9> isthisnicktaken: lspci |grep -i vga .. mine is
[07:51] <Cntryboy> eh screw it I dont have all night to sit here.. lates all
[07:51] <IcemanV9> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[07:51] <Kirk_> sledmouth: thanks
[07:51] <Kirk_> Worked
[07:51] <Kirk_> :)
[07:51] <groupd> msnmessenger
[07:52] <godtvisken> How do I get my back/forward buttons on my mouse to work?
[07:52] <VirusDotNET> how can i change my screen resolution cause i don't want 1280x 769 or whatever it is
[07:52] <IcemanV9> isthisnicktaken: i used 'radeon' in my xorg.conf
[07:52] <sledmouth> VirusDotNET: gnome?
[07:52] <notamisfit> godtvisken: what does "ZAxisMapping" in xorg.conf show?
[07:52] <isthisnicktaken> direct rendering is still disabled
[07:52] <Flannel> godtvisken: help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[07:53] <isthisnicktaken> and I cant use "Powerplay" or the dynamic clocking
[07:53] <VirusDotNET> yes gnome i want 1280x1024 but it doesn't give me that open
[07:53] <IcemanV9> isthisnicktaken: using 'radeon' ? OR 'ati'?
[07:53] <VirusDotNET> option
[07:53] <isthisnicktaken> I changed the xorg to radeon
[07:54] <IcemanV9> isthisnicktaken: ok. change it back to 'ati' then
[07:54] <scabootssca> notamisfit, thanks it worked
[07:54] <notamisfit> scabootssca: happy to help
[07:54] <sledmouth> VirusDotNET: what video card do u have and what driver is specified in xorg.conf?
[07:54] <Kirk_> What context do I use to create a Bind9 ".db." file for a domain?
[07:54] <VirusDotNET> ATI Radeon X200
[07:54] <VirusDotNET> X300*
[07:54] <scabootssca> ok now howe do i uninstall programs from that harddrive?
[07:54] <ThylekShran> NARF!!!
[07:55] <isthisnicktaken> IcemanV9: restarting x
[07:55] <sledmouth> VirusDotNET: and what driver in xorg.conf?
[07:55] <IcemanV9> VirusDotNET: system > preferences > screen resolution
[07:55] <VirusDotNET> IcemanV9, i know that but it doesn't give me 1280x1024
[07:55] <VirusDotNET> sledmouth, im looking
[07:55] <scabootssca> how do i uninstall programs from a mounted linux drive
[07:56] <`Evil`> Hey, need help with make and C compiling in Ubuntu, installing mail-notification-3.0
[07:56] <DarkElf109> scabootssca: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[07:56] <IcemanV9> VirusDotNET: gotcha.
[07:56] <VirusDotNET> ATI Technologies, Inc. RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]
[07:57] <sledmouth>  grep -i drive /etc/X11//xorg.conf
[07:57] <Kirk_> What context do I use to create a Bind9 ".db." file for a domain?
[07:57] <kelbizzle> anyone play True Combat Elite.
[07:57] <`Evil`> Any help with make and C compiling in Ubuntu? installing mail-notification-3.0
[07:57] <VirusDotNET> kbd,mouse,wacom,ati
[07:58] <VirusDotNET> when i was on gentoo it was xorgconfig
[07:58] <Warbo> `Evil`: If it is a standard C program you just need "build-essential" installed
[07:58] <sledmouth> VirusDotNET: what modelines are included in xorg.conf?
[07:58] <notamisfit> VirusDotNET: should be the same with any X version
[07:58] <sledmouth> er modes
[07:58] <VirusDotNET> iwhen i do xorgconfig it says not there
[07:59] <notamisfit> VirusDotNET: strange
[07:59] <Kirk_> What context do I use to create a Bind9 ".db." file for a domain?
[07:59] <`Evil`> Warbo, tried everything, when i do sudo apt-get install build-essential, then i get E: Package build-essential has no installation candidate
[07:59] <`Evil`> Warbo, it says -> Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:59] <`Evil`> is only available from another source
[07:59] <VirusDotNET> http://pastebin.ca/87792
[07:59] <Warbo> `Evil`: Do you have the standard repos in your sources.list?
[07:59] <Warbo> !easysource
[07:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:00] <rredd4> sledmouth  I am now in kubuntu,  in menu.lst, there is no  <IP_ADDRESS>  only 23... weird
[08:00] <scabootssca> anybody know what the ati drivers are called?
[08:00] <Warbo> fglrx, ati and radeon
[08:00] <scabootssca> ahh i forgot the l
[08:00] <scabootssca> thnks
[08:00] <`Evil`> Warbo, standard as in? I'm new to linux. I got whats installed by default in Ubuntu Dapper
[08:00] <tritium> Warbo: ati is just a wraper for radeon
[08:01] <rredd4> sledmouth and I did update-grub
[08:01] <Warbo> tritium: Is it? Cool
[08:01] <tritium> wrapper even
[08:01] <rredd4> no change
[08:01] <rredd4> tritium  I am now in kubuntu,  in menu.lst, there is no  <IP_ADDRESS>  only 23... weird
[08:01] <Warbo> `Evil`: Paste the contents or /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin so we can have a look
[08:01] <Warbo> !pastebin
[08:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:01] <`Evil`> K
[08:01] <godtvisken_> How do I get my back/forward buttons on my mouse to work?
[08:01] <zer0hour> heyhey
[08:01] <sledmouth>  rredd4: add it there and reboot
[08:01] <IcemanV9> rredd4: add the entry by hand, then
[08:01] <tritium> rredd4: was your kubuntu install updated?
[08:02] <zer0hour> quick question
[08:02] <rredd4> tritium  I did not do that yet
[08:02] <VirusDotNET> ill brb
[08:02] <sledmouth>  rredd4: add it while booted in kubuntu
[08:02] <tritium> rredd4: well, that's why
[08:02] <rredd4> what does kubuntu have to do with ubuntu?
[08:02] <zer0hour> im having some problems
[08:03] <tritium> rredd4: same base, different desktop environment
[08:03] <sledmouth> i think grub is looking in the partition ur kubuntu is on
[08:03] <spades> godtvisken https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons
[08:03] <sledmouth> rather than /boot on ubuntu
[08:03] <sledmouth> different partitions
[08:03] <`Evil`> Warbo, here -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17978
[08:03] <tritium> rredd4: before you add it by hand, please update it, and see if it updates your menu.lst properly this time
[08:03] <rredd4> slemouth  yup i agree!! thats it!
[08:03] <sledmouth> so simply add the ubuntu lines to your kubuntu grub menu.lst
[08:03] <sledmouth> the 26 ubuntu lines
[08:03] <rredd4> tritium ok
[08:03] <sledmouth> then reboot
[08:04] <sledmouth> tritium
[08:04] <rredd4> ok,, thats it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ty!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:04] <sledmouth> his kubuntu won't know of his ubuntu
[08:04] <sledmouth> so it wouldn't help
[08:04] <tritium> sledmouth: they're on the same machine?
[08:04] <sledmouth> by hand is only option
[08:04] <sledmouth> so
[08:04] <rredd4> I will get rid of kubuntu
[08:04] <sledmouth> different paritions
[08:04] <rredd4> that will fix it
[08:04] <Warbo> `Evil`: Looks like you have lost the first line
[08:04] <tritium> rredd4: you know you can install both without separate root partitions, right?
[08:05] <rredd4> no
[08:05] <sledmouth> make sure you re-run grub install if u dump kubuntu
[08:05] <rredd4> ok
[08:05] <sledmouth> he's right ,yo
[08:05] <Warbo> `Evil`: Look at the top one (the "deb-src" one), make a copy of it but in the copy change the "deb-src" to just "deb"
[08:05] <`Evil`> Warbo, umm ok, so whats the first line and also where can i get the default source.list if any
[08:05] <sledmouth> but nothing wrong with different partitions
[08:05] <PFA> i have an ipod connected to the computer and i want to disconnect it. i have unmounted it but the icon doesn't disappear from the desktop and it doesn't stop saying do not disconnect. what can i do to disconnect it?
[08:05] <`Evil`> Warbo, ok
[08:05] <Warbo> `Evil`: You know how to edit files as super user?
[08:06] <tritium> rredd4: that info would have been useful earlier ;)
[08:06] <notamisfit> PFA: Yank it. What's it gonna do?
[08:06] <sledmouth> lol
[08:06] <`Evil`> Warbo, i know how to get root, but not to open files in command
[08:06] <rredd4> tritium kubuntu and ubuntu on the same partition
[08:06] <rredd4> ??
[08:06] <PFA> notamisfit: i have no idea, but i have had really bad problems with iPods before so i am not willing to find out
[08:06] <neon_> nice program to make a dvds with gui?
[08:06] <neon_> jeje
[08:06] <Warbo> `Evil`: "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" runs the text editor as super user
[08:06] <sledmouth> tritium i wondered after he pasted his fstab why hda2 was not accounted for ;)
[08:06] <tritium> rredd4: yes
[08:06] <tritium> sledmouth: good catch :)
[08:07] <GStubbs43> Quick question... Should I use qbittorrent, azureus, or bittornado for downloading a 700mb file?
[08:07] <godtvisken_> How do I get my back/forward buttons on my mouse to work?
[08:07] <rredd4> tritium  great job!!
[08:08] <sledmouth> ugh, i had to wife's friend earlier with bootcamp :((
[08:08] <rredd4> sledmouth  great job!!
[08:08] <`Evil`> Warbo, so I make it "deb http://" and then run apt-get for build-essentials?
[08:08] <Warbo> `Evil`: Also, there are some lines there which begin with "# deb" and "# deb-src". If you get rid of the # (but not in the comments :) ) then you will have access to more stuff (you may also want to create "deb" lines for all of those which are only "deb-src")
[08:08] <tritium> rredd4: no, you and sledmouth did it :)
[08:08] <rredd4> both did it
[08:08] <rredd4> ty
[08:08] <sledmouth> i wanted to tell her to wipe eet and put on xubuntu
[08:08] <Warbo> `Evil`: Yes. You will have to update apt first (apt-get update)
[08:08] <tritium> rredd4: any time, buddy :)
[08:08] <snoops> GStubbs43 they will all do the job..comes down to preference.. I prefer azureus personally
[08:08] <notamisfit> godtvisken: add the line "ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf under the mouse section
[08:09] <rredd4> sledmouth who was i talking to before you started helping?
[08:09] <rredd4> i want to tell him also
[08:09] <sledmouth> uh,
[08:09] <Kirk_> Hi
[08:09] <`Evil`> Warbo, Ok, Will update and also should I then remove the # from the cmd lines and also you're telling me to remove -src from every or only 1st line?
[08:09] <GStubbs43> I have used azureus, and I did like it, I haven't tried the other ones though and was wondering what you guys thought
[08:09] <sledmouth> starts with an N
[08:09] <thompa> i changed my agp aperture down to 64M from 128M and i can boot ubuntu
[08:09] <Kirk_> Do I have anyone here who knows how to setup a DNS server?  I found the exaample configuration that I can use, but I don't know what file to edit.
[08:09] <rredd4> something   elf109
[08:10] <sledmouth>  rredd4 DarkElf109
[08:10] <thompa> it should be 128 though
[08:10] <Kirk_> The sample configuration is here:  http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~magi/doc/bind9/Bv9ARM.ch03.html#AEN275
[08:10] <rredd4> thats it
[08:10] <Kirk_> What file do I edit?
[08:10] <Quarupt> whats a efnet server address?
[08:10] <Kirk_> irc.efnet.com I think
[08:11] <`Evil`> Warbo, or should I create a duplicate line for the ones with deb -src and remove -src from the duplicates?
[08:11] <GStubbs43> Another question, will Automatix work with Dapper?
[08:11] <sledmouth> so tired but don't want to sleep
[08:11] <rredd4> DarkElf109  menu.lst was running off of kubuntu not ubuntu  I have them on different partitions..  that was the problem
[08:11] <GStubbs43> or just breezy?
[08:11] <Warbo> `Evil`: deb-src gets source code and deb gets binaries. Preferably you want both of them for each source, so copy the deb-src lines and change the copies to deb, then get rid of any # before deb or deb-src entries. After you save the file run apt-get update then apt-get install whatever you need
[08:11] <Kirk_> Do I have anyone here who knows how to setup a DNS server?  I found the exaample configuration that I can use, but I don't know what file to edit.  The sample configuration is here:  http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~magi/doc/bind9/Bv9ARM.ch03.html#AEN275
[08:11] <thompa> ubuntu would get any screens unless i turn aperture settings down in bios, amd64, i think i disabled something else too.
[08:11] <Warbo> `Evil`: Exactly what you said :)
[08:11] <`Evil`> Warbo, Ok, will try it out, Thanks :)
[08:12] <GStubbs43> Nevermind I got it figured out
[08:12] <Kirk_> Do I have anyone here who knows how to setup a DNS server?  I found the exaample configuration that I can use, but I don't know what file to edit.  The sample configuration is here:  http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~magi/doc/bind9/Bv9ARM.ch03.html#AEN275
[08:12] <Kirk_> Please!
[08:12] <Kirk_> :|
[08:12] <thompa> the problem is if i change any bios settings ubuntu wont boot into graphic mode
[08:12] <tritium> Kirk_: please don't repeat
[08:12] <sledmouth> uhoh
[08:12] <Kirk_> tritium: sorry, I'm tired and aggrivated.  I'm not thinking.
[08:12] <Kirk_> :|
[08:12] <thompa> anybody? just  a clue?
[08:12] <spades> Kirk_ i think that should be in your /etc/named.cond
[08:12] <spades> conf*
[08:12] <tritium> Kirk_: no problem.  Just have some patience, please.
[08:12] <rredd4> see ya!  THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:12] <Kirk_> Sorry.
[08:12] <Kirk_> lol
[08:12] <Kirk_> I'll try that file.
[08:13] <tritium> Take care, rredd4
[08:13] <thompa> i think maybe i got power supply problems with nvidia 6600gt
[08:13] <Kirk_> Hey squad
[08:13] <Kirk_> :)
[08:13] <Warbo> Does someone mind downloading a file to clarify something for me?
[08:13] <polpak> Warbo: depends on what it is
[08:13] <thompa> Warbo: i will
[08:14] <thompa> but im upgrading, fixing to crash
[08:14] <Warbo> I installed a custom LHA archiver, but I'm wondering if Dapper's default can now do the same thing. Basically Breezy's lha package couldn't handle files like those on aminet.net
[08:15] <thompa> anybody having problems with  amd64?
[08:15] <PFA> i have an ipod connected to the computer and i want to disconnect it. i have unmounted it but the icon doesn't disappear from the desktop and it doesn't stop saying do not disconnect. what can i do to disconnect it?
[08:15] <thompa> for me it would not even boot, but 32 is working
[08:16] <Warbo> PFA: Did you unmount with right click, or with a terminal (either way, try the other)
[08:16] <hume> hi.... i am trying to get a tablet stylus to work, and would need to replace an xorg driver - but in dapper there are no xorg drivers with extension .o, only .so - anyone knos about this?
[08:16] <`Evil`> thompa, I did in the sense that I installed Dapper 64 release and not much support there for falsh/java/wine
[08:16] <PFA> Warbo: right-click -- how do you unmount with terminal?
[08:16] <polpak> Warbo: works fine if I sudo apt-get install lha
[08:16] <thompa> just pull the plug out on ipod
[08:16] <Warbo> PFA: "sudo umount /path/to/device" (so maybe /path/to/device is /media/ipod or something)
[08:17] <thompa> im running linux on my ipod
[08:17] <thompa> dual boot
[08:17] <Warbo> polpak: You can open Amiga LHA archives?
[08:17] <rredd4> sledmouth  when I delete the kubuntu partition...  will grub still show up before I boot into ubuntu?  since grub is now using the kubuntu menu.lst
[08:17] <polpak> Warbo: I can open the ones on aminet yes
[08:17] <Warbo> polpak: Cool, thanks.
[08:17] <polpak> Warbo: with file-roller but you have to install the lha package
[08:17] <thompa> my ipod will boot pcs with linux if i set bios to usb first
[08:17] <PFA> Warbo: didn't work :(
[08:18] <sledmouth> rredd4: before u do anything - do the grub install such that it looks for menu.lst etc on ur ubuntu
[08:18] <notamisfit> PFA: error message?
[08:18] <thompa> Evil: hi, ok
[08:18] <PFA> notamisfit: nope
[08:18] <sledmouth> rredd4: make a change in the menu.lst file to verify that it looks in the right place
[08:18] <sledmouth> then dump kubuntu
[08:18] <kholerabbi> what are the various ways to get gaim to startup on startup??
[08:18] <Warbo> polpak: Yeah, but I think there are two types or something. I had to look for ages to find the binary I am currently using (the UNIX source for LHA came out before Linux did, so I couldn't compile it with my limited knowledge)
[08:19] <sledmouth> rredd4: u'll want to go into grub shell yourself
[08:20] <rredd4> sledmouth  how do I make grub install look for menu.lst on ubuntu
[08:20] <kholerabbi> how do I get gaim to start on login?
[08:20] <thompa> Evil: do you have an idea why my ubuntu wont boot if i have agp aperture set to 128 , when the card is 128?
[08:20] <rredd4> sledmouth menu.lst?
[08:20] <tritium> kholerabbi: add it to your session
[08:20] <rredd4> sledmouth never been into grub shell don't know how, yet
[08:20] <sledmouth> rredd4: read about grub yourself; i don't remember off the top of my head
[08:21] <rredd4> ik
[08:21] <rredd4> ok
[08:21] <sledmouth> gentoo has good grub documentation on their site tho
[08:21] <rredd4> ok
[08:21] <`Evil`> thompa, I'm a newbie to Linux too :)  btw whats the error like? I night be able to help cos I did get some errors myself. Guessing you have onboard AGP
[08:21] <godtvisken> If I am used to uTorrent on Windows, what would be a good client?
[08:21] <sledmouth> u'll only have to enter like 4 commands to fix it rredd4
[08:21] <rredd4> boy did I make a mess..
[08:21] <thompa> gaim is awful, soory dude
[08:22] <thompa> get some text problem
[08:22] <godtvisken> thompa, what's better?
[08:22] <PFA> oh --- is it absolutely necessary that i have every previosu kernel version EVER In my grub menu?! it's getting really long and cumbersom
[08:22] <PFA> cumbersome**
[08:22] <thompa> konversation
[08:22] <kholerabbi> thanks
[08:22] <rredd4> PFA remove them in syanptic
[08:22] <Warbo> PFA: They are not previous then, you still have them installed :) Get rid of the "linux-image-xxxxxxxx" packages you no longer need
[08:22] <sledmouth> bitchX
[08:23] <thompa> godtvisken: i cant read the text well
[08:23] <notamisfit> bitchX rules
[08:23] <IcemanV9> PFA: you can remove them via aptitude or apt-get
[08:23] <PFA> can/ should i do that? :|
[08:23] <rredd4> sure
[08:23] <godtvisken> thompa, oh.. for irc. i thought you meant general chat clients
[08:23] <Warbo> PFA: As long as you leave the one you are using it is fine
[08:23] <godtvisken> thompa, i just like irssi
[08:23] <PFA> OK . . . .
[08:23] <PFA> thanks
[08:23] <thompa> oh i see this works for yahoo
[08:23] <rredd4> PFA uname -r don't remove that one
[08:24] <PFA> and uh . . . anyone have any ideas why my ipod refuses to unmount?
[08:24] <IcemanV9> PFA: fwiw, you might want to leave one old version in case of a newer one doesn't work.
[08:24] <Warbo> PFA: DRM
[08:24] <_bt> it has open files?
[08:24] <notamisfit> PFA: It's possessed by Satan. Best just to yank it
[08:24] <Warbo> :)
[08:25] <PFA> IcemanV9: OK, thanks
[08:25] <thompa> the other thing says irc i use that too
[08:25] <PFA> Warbo: what's that have to do with anything? :S
[08:25] <Warbo> PFA: It's funny that what :)
[08:25] <Kirk_> Aweosme
[08:25] <Kirk_> Everything works
[08:25] <Kirk_> Thanks for everything all of you!
[08:25] <PFA> notamisfit: i refuse. D: what if it does this every time? i can't just keep yankign it
[08:25] <_bt> can anyone help me fix my flash install on dapper? flash is working but lots of things on flash applets don't show
[08:25] <thompa> now it probably will not reboot
[08:26] <Warbo> _bt: Did you get the Free one or the non-Free one?
[08:26] <enyc> _bt: aah well you want to add extra things for that
[08:26] <PFA> oh and . . . which linux-image files do i need? :/
[08:26] <enyc> _bt: you need 'flashplayer-nonfree'
[08:26] <Warbo> PFA: Run "uname -r" and keep that one
[08:26] <enyc> PFA: packages... you mean
[08:26] <sledmouth> is there a links2 ubuntu package?
[08:26] <PFA> enyc: yes, whatever D:
[08:26] <PFA> Warbo: OK, thanks
[08:26] <enyc> sledmouth: not sure... .try 'elinks' ??
[08:27] <_bt> thanks enyc ill try that
[08:27] <sledmouth> elinks doesn't do graphic mode
[08:27] <sledmouth> and probably not javascript either
[08:27] <godtvisken> After I have edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf, how should I go about restarting X?
[08:27] <notamisfit> godtvisken: Ctrl-Alt-Bksp
[08:28] <sledmouth> ya
[08:28] <godtvisken> Thanks
[08:28] <harisund> I need some help with samba here (had it working in breezy. installed daper and don't know why the same doesn't work). I install smbfs, and do smbpaswd -a harisund. However, I am not able to access harisund home from a windows machine on hte lan. (and samba isn't even running on Ubuntu). What am I missing?
[08:28] <PFA> where do i find the grub menu list file?
[08:28] <sledmouth> ugh
[08:28] <sledmouth> rredd4
[08:28] <harisund> PFA /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:28] <odb|rescue> PF use locate man :D
[08:29] <PFA> harisund: thanks
[08:29] <renaldo> hello all.. .i have a question reg the screen resolution
[08:29] <renaldo> my only option is 1024x768
[08:29] <renaldo> how do i add more
[08:29] <spades> !resolution
[08:29] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:29] <polpak> !resolution > renaldo
[08:30] <notamisfit> renatofilho: section "Screen" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:30] <renaldo> polpak... what do i do !resolution
[08:30] <notamisfit> renaldo section "Screen" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:30] <renaldo> do i open a terminal window and navigate to that?
[08:30] <polpak> renaldo: read the message ubotu sent you
[08:31] <hume> anyone knows what to do with a modulle for xorg (wacom_drv.o) - with xorg-7.0.0ubuntu in ubuntu dapper there is no folder /usr/X11R6/lib/modules (or any other xorg .o-modules)...?
[08:31] <kholerabbi> Anyone know how to set a keyboard shortcut for the System Monitor - it isn't listed in the Keyboard Shortcuts app?
[08:32] <renaldo> thank you polpak
[08:33] <s|k> is this memtest taking 1 hour
[08:33] <s|k> to test 108k of memory?
[08:34] <s|k> and it's doing this sequentially until all 3gigs are tested?
[08:34] <sledmouth> memtest takes a while
[08:34] <s|k> what's a while?
[08:34] <polpak> kholerabbi: use gconf-editor and go to apps->metacity->keybinding commands  you need to add the command to one of the keybindings there
[08:34] <tritium> s|k: hours
[08:34] <s|k> it's almost 3 hours already
[08:35] <`Evil`> Warbo, Everythings installed and I also dont get any errors on ./config (i think) but make and make install wont work
[08:35] <renaldo> notamisfit ... don't mean to ask too many questions do i edit that file? (xorg.conf)
[08:35] <renaldo> do i do a vi xorg.conf???
[08:35] <sledmouth> ah 'links2 -g'
[08:35] <s|k> make sure you back it up first
[08:35] <notamisfit> renaldo: uh-huh sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:35] <Warbo> `Evil`: First of all install "checkinstall" and try to use that instead of "make install" (it makes a package which is nice)
[08:35] <s|k> renaldo: back it up first
[08:35] <renaldo> what's sudo for?
[08:36] <`Evil`> Warbo, K
[08:36] <s|k> renaldo: sudo stands for SuperUser Do
[08:36] <Warbo> `Evil`: Next, you may need some packages ending in -dev, anything that looks relevant
[08:36] <notamisfit> renaldo: sudo gives you root priveliges, which you will need to edit the file
[08:36] <s|k> Operation?
[08:36] <s|k> renaldo: back up the file first
[08:36] <harisund> the package gnump3d doesn't install cleanly on dapper. What do I do?
[08:37] <s|k> renaldo: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[08:37] <`Evil`> Warbo, from here -> http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/  ? and I install all  -dev packages from Synaptic?
[08:37] <Lobster> moin
[08:37] <renaldo> thanks s|k
[08:37] <Warbo> `Evil`: You can apt-get install checkinstall
[08:38] <abhinay> i installed gnome-clipboard-daemon , hw to use it ?
[08:38] <Warbo> `Evil`: You can also apt-get install mail-notification. But if you still want to build the source then you can do "sudo apt-get build-dep mail-notification"
[08:38] <s|k> abhinay: don't use it :/
[08:38] <s|k> abhinay: the linux clipboard is shit
[08:38] <s|k> just something to get used to
[08:39] <`Evil`> Warbo, Whoa. Now there's some nice piece of info ;)  I was building it cos I got it from the site and thought that was the only way :)
[08:39] <renaldo> ok im looking at the xorg.conf (the screen section) ... what should i change in there
[08:39] <s|k> renaldo: what are you trying to do?
[08:39] <Warbo> `Evil`: Normally I would tell people to check apt first, but I forgive you since your sources.list was dodgy :)
[08:39] <`Evil`> Warbo, Ok, where do you get, or how do you know these softwares are available.. eg: apt-get install <something>
[08:39] <renaldo> change the screen resolution
[08:40] <tritium> s|k: watch the language, please
[08:40] <s|k> renaldo: why don't you do that in gnome?
[08:40] <s|k> tritium: ok, sorry
[08:40] <`Evil`> Warbo, hehe.. thanks then
[08:40] <notamisfit> renaldo:add the resolutions you want in double quotes
[08:40] <renaldo> i only have one choice in gnome
[08:40] <renaldo> the one that the system is currently using
[08:40] <csk> hi all i am trying to install wine but i have seriously stuffed up someting in the installation process. is there anyway i can delete all the config files so that i can start fresh. i removed the wine program and reinstalled it but it didnt do the trick. thanks
[08:40] <polpak> `Evil`: apt-cache search <stuff>
[08:40] <renaldo> i want to go to a higher resolution
[08:40] <polpak> `Evil`: will help you find related packages
[08:40] <Warbo> `Evil`: Either use a GUI like Synaptic, or "apt-cache search packagename" will see if "packagename" is available
[08:40] <s|k> renaldo: that probably means your monitor can't handle any other resolution
[08:41] <Warbo> `Evil`: Or if you are stuck in the command line you can use aptitude
[08:41] <renaldo> windows can handle it
[08:41] <s|k> oh okay
[08:41] <renaldo> im sure ubuntu would
[08:41] <s|k> no idea then, I have the same problem with this monitor
[08:41] <s|k> it's at 640x480
[08:41] <renaldo> i have it set at 1024x768
[08:41] <renaldo> oh wow
[08:41] <s|k> I changed the resolution to something else in the xorg.conf
[08:41] <s|k> and it didn't change anything
[08:42] <s|k> it's a tiny monitor
[08:42] <s|k> I don't see why it can't work at 800x600 though
[08:42] <polpak> renaldo: if you read the info ubotu sent you would know you need to use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:43] <`Evil`> polpak, Warbo: Thanks (btw just checked out aptitude, is nice), so when I do apt-cache search ICQ, will it search only that filename "ICQ" or any package with ICQ mentioned
[08:43] <polpak> `Evil`: the latter
[08:43] <`Evil`> ah,ok, thanks
[08:43] <renaldo> i did polpak... i appreciate the help, but my knowledge of the bash and editing these files is very limited
[08:43] <`Evil`> Umm.. where does it pick up/search these from? any particular site?
[08:43] <polpak> renaldo: the command I mentioned doesn't require editing the file
[08:44] <Warbo> polpak: What is the exact way it searches, since I often see results which are dependant on the search-term package, or somethimes nothing to do with it
[08:44] <polpak> `Evil`: from the ubuntu repositories
[08:44] <polpak> Warbo: I think it searches package name, description, and possibly dependancies
[08:44] <Warbo> `Evil`: Those lines in sources.list tell it where to get stuff from
[08:45] <`Evil`> Warbo, ok, is this --> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/  the dapper repository?
[08:45] <Warbo> `Evil`: Yes (don't bother going there in a browser though)
[08:45] <polpak> `Evil`: that lists them yes, but it's not the actual repositories
[08:45] <sledmouth> k - not a bitchX poser now :)
[08:45] <renaldo> what is the best way to learn the  bash
[08:46] <Warbo> renaldo: "man bash"
[08:46] <renaldo> is there a book you all used at first?
[08:46] <polpak> !cli
[08:46] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:46] <`Evil`> Warbo, I used to browse through them actually and found them pretty cool, installers for everything :)
[08:46] <polpak> renaldo: start there ^^
[08:46] <`Evil`> polpak, Where are they then, the actual ones? and ummm.. what is a universe then?
[08:46] <polpak> Warbo: that url isn't the repository, it's the package listing
[08:47] <maruthibg> help, running with the below error
[08:47] <maruthibg> Software index is broken
[08:47] <maruthibg> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[08:47] <brutopia_> I use ipython as my terminal
[08:47] <Warbo> `Evil`: Packages are better than that, since the installer is called DPkg and lives on your system, so you don't have to download the installer every time, just the actual program data
[08:47] <brutopia_> it's the most powerful tool
[08:47] <polpak> `Evil`: there are 2 community supported  repositories "universe" and "mulitverse"
[08:47] <revilot> anyone know of a mac like dock besides the one that works with gdesklets
[08:47] <notamisfit> maruthibg: so do it
[08:47] <snoops> is there a file browser for linux which has a similar view to the os x one where you choose a folder, then it opens up a pane to the right of it, you click that pane, another opens to the right..when all the space is used in that window, it scrolls to the right?
[08:47] <geoffP271> Hi. Anyone know how to mount a USB external HD in ubuntu 6.06(latest)?
[08:48] <Warbo> polpak: Oh, I thought it was a link to the directory structure. They must have put an index.html in there
[08:48] <`Evil`> Warbo, i see, kind of just d/l any updates, not the whole thing
[08:48] <notamisfit> geoffP271: if its plugged in it should do it for you
[08:48] <maruthibg> when i use the above i run with the error
[08:48] <maruthibg> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:48] <maruthibg> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:48] <Warbo> `Evil`: Exactly
[08:48] <aadil> hi, anyone can tell me the default root password for Draper Drake?
[08:48] <polpak> Warbo: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is the actual repositories
[08:48] <geoffP271> it's plugged, fstab add, won't mount or be recognized
[08:48] <polpak> !sudo > aadil
[08:48] <notamisfit> maruthibg: do you have an instance of apt running?
[08:48] <`Evil`> polpak, Any good wiki/place for ubuntu terminology and detailed help?
[08:48] <sybec> The Debian people got hacked because of a vulnerable kernel. It seems Ubuntu ["current"]  runs such a vulnerable kernel. When will we see an update?
[08:49] <sybec> And why hasn't this been done earlier
[08:49] <maruthibg> notamisfit, yes
[08:49] <polpak> `Evil`: wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com
[08:49] <Warbo> maruthibg: Only one program can access APT at once. Close any synaptic windows, Adept windows, Update Managers and stuff and try again
[08:49] <`Evil`> polpak, Thanks
[08:49] <maruthibg> Wardo: getting the same error even when i closed it
[08:50] <sybec> And, furthermore, is there a "Securing Ubuntu" guide somewhere ?
[08:50] <notamisfit> geoffP271:what's the fs type?
[08:50] <geoffP271> ist part is vaft, and 2nd ext3
[08:50] <geoffP271> vfat
[08:51] <polpak> sybec: it was a local kernel exploit, so that limits the risk somewhat
[08:51] <Warbo> maruthibg: You are using sudo aren't you?
[08:51] <geoffP271> so it's /dev/sdb1, and /dev/sdb5
[08:51] <notamisfit> geoffP271:what's the error message from mount?
[08:51] <geoffP271> no such device
[08:51] <revilot> anyone know of a mac like dock besides the one that works with gdesklets
[08:51] <notamisfit> both of them>
[08:51] <geoffP271> had it running in FC3 this AM
[08:51] <sybec> polpak: Oh .. well .. if it's only local then no need to update *rolling eyes*
[08:52] <notamisfit> revilot:kxdocker, kooldock, engage
[08:52] <geoffP271> both, it's one drive,
[08:52] <verix> hey, does anyone remember the apt-get package for the kernel headers?
[08:52] <notamisfit> geoffP271:does it show up in lsusb?
[08:52] <geoffP271> two partitions
[08:52] <revilot> notamisfit: gnome?
[08:52] <geoffP271> no such device, again
[08:52] <Warbo> revilot: adesklets, maybe Karamba/SuperKaramba and I think KDE has a native one which I have seen referenced on KDE-Look.org a lot
[08:53] <renaldo> polpak i tried what you sent and it just restarted my os
[08:53] <geoffP271> I've unplugged, rebboted, several times, no change
[08:53] <polpak> sybec: particularly when you consider that there is no way to remotely access an ubuntu system be default
[08:53] <renaldo> i was at the command line again
[08:53] <_smd_> I got a new ISP today I can connect in windows but not in ubuntu.  What do i have to change? I went from dsl to broadband.
[08:53] <renaldo> didn't know what to do
[08:53] <aadil> polpak, thanks for the help
[08:53] <aadil> i found what i was looking for
[08:53] <notamisfit> geoffP271: does lsusb recognize the device?
[08:53] <Warbo> _smd_: Do you have an ethernet router or a USB modem?
[08:53] <geoffP271> no
[08:53] <verix> anyone? :<
[08:54] <sybec> polpak: So what? If I want to run OpenSSH Server, I'll have to "pay" for it?
[08:54] <_smd_> I have a ethernet modem
[08:54] <Warbo> verix: linux-headers`uname -r`
[08:54] <verix> thanks!
[08:54] <polpak> sybec: if you allow remote shell access to your system, then you should take additional steps to secure your system
[08:54] <Warbo> linux-headers-`uname -r` sorry
[08:54] <verix> I thought it was $(uname -r)?
[08:54] <verix> oh wait they're the same
[08:54] <verix> lol
[08:54] <verix> forgot about that
[08:54] <tritium> !enter
[08:54] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:55] <sybec> polpak: And such an additional step is running the latest kernel from kernel.org ?
[08:55] <verix> sorry, habit
[08:55] <Warbo> _smd_: Go into System>Administration>Networking and look for your Ethernet device. Set it to DHCP mode and activate it, and make sure it is the default gateway
[08:55] <geoffP271> here is output of cat when uSB plugged in
[08:55] <geoffP271> Jul 14 02:54:43 toshiba-A105-S2716 kernel: [4296634.628000]  usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8
[08:55] <geoffP271> Jul 14 02:54:44 toshiba-A105-S2716 kernel: [4296635.136000]  usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9
[08:55] <geoffP271> Jul 14 02:54:44 toshiba-A105-S2716 kernel: [4296635.644000]  usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 10
[08:55] <geoffP271> Jul 14 02:54:45 toshiba-A105-S2716 kernel: [4296636.148000]  usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 11
[08:55] <verix> probably makes it even worse that I type so damn fast ;P
[08:55] <sybec> I can't rely on Ubuntu to give me "up-to-date" security-wise software?
[08:55] <Warbo> !paste
[08:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:55] <polpak> sybec: the vulnerability exists in 2.6.13 up to versions before <IP_ADDRESS> and  2.6.16 up to versions before <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:55] <renaldo> does this mean i can't change my screen resolution?
[08:55] <tritium> geoffP271: use pastebin!
[08:56] <geoffP271> ??
[08:56] <Flannel> sybec: you can.  What makes you think you couldnt?
[08:56] <renaldo> my xorg.conf file doesn't even list my current configuration
[08:56] <sybec> polpak: Yes, and my current kernel is 2.6.15-26-386. Now .. tell me if I'm wrong .. but isn't that "2.6.13 - <IP_ADDRESS>" ?
[08:56] <_smd_> Warbo: i will try that tomorrow when i get back from work thanks.
[08:57] <kintaro> hi all, i is ok to build a production server on ubuntu server? does it support vmware? is vmware availble on ubuntu?
[08:57] <_smd_> I have to wake up tp gp to work in 4 hrs..
[08:57] <polpak> sybec: do you run openssh ?
[08:57] <sybec> polpak: Yes.
[08:57] <Flannel> sybec: ubuntu patches security fixes without changing version numbers.
[08:57] <polpak> sybec: then either upgrade your kernel or wait until the security update is released
[08:58] <Flannel> sybec: so, once an update is out for ubuntu, you'll get it.  I have no idea if it's currently out or not though.  But ubuntu will patch it.
[08:58] <geoffP271> have usbcore and usb_storage both running modules
[08:58] <Nilsy> Morning
[08:59] <notamisfit> geoffP271:ehci_uhd?
[08:59] <geoffP271> that is correct, but I can't find an entry for that
[08:59] <notamisfit> geoffP271:disregard. if it's got /dev entries, then the kernel can see it
[09:00] <geoffP271> under any device mounter
[09:00] <blanky> hey guys, how can I 'tar.gz' a directory and it's files
[09:00] <Kirk_> I have a question.  I am setting up another Ubuntu server, breezy badger 5.10, and my question is... should I set the hostname to the domain name?  The domain is "s1.alphahertz.com".  Should I set the network hostname to that?
[09:00] <Kirk_> blanky: tar --help
[09:00] <notamisfit> geoffP271: it does't show up under storage devices or anything like that?
[09:00] <geoffP271> it's in fstab, but not in mtab
[09:00] <furrykef> Hey guys, I'm having trouble installing ubuntu... I'm using the LiveCD right now
[09:00] <blanky> Kirk_, thanks, you could've just said the command...
[09:00] <verix> Linux is all about rtfm, blanky :>
[09:00] <Kirk_> blanky: I don't remember it off the top of my head.
[09:00] <notamisfit> geoffP271: look under the menus (ie where cdrom drives and such are)
[09:00] <Kirk_> blanky: I'm a noob too sort of. :P
[09:01] <Kirk_> So... my question? :S
[09:01] <blanky> verix, that's not the type of attitude to be taken in this channel
[09:01] <blanky> Kirk_, It's okay
[09:01] <verix> I know, I'm kidding
[09:01] <Kirk_> I want to get to bed, please answer it as soon as somebody can.
[09:01] <furrykef> When I try to create my filesystem (ext3), it seems to work for a few minutes, then it balks saying "failed to create filesystem" or something like that.
[09:01] <verix> what was your question, Kirk?
[09:01] <Kirk_> I have a question.  I am setting up another Ubuntu server, breezy badger 5.10, and my question is... should I set the hostname to the domain name?  The domain is "s1.alphahertz.com".  Should I set the network hostname to that?
[09:01] <geoffP271> I've made the dir in the /media
[09:01] <Warbo> furrykef: Have you tried doing it from a console?
[09:01] <geoffP271> dirs
[09:01] <verix> to alphahertz.com?
[09:01] <furrykef> Warbo - not yet
[09:01] <Kirk_> No, to s1.alphahertz.com
[09:01] <polpak> Kirk_: stop spamming. you can set the hostname to anything you like. yes it can be the same as the DNS name.. but it doesn't have to be
[09:01] <Kirk_> Alphahertz.com is managed by another server.
[09:02] <Kirk_> polpak: He asked what my question was...
[09:02] <verix> no, I think the hostname should be just "sl," not the whole thing, because the domain would be alphahertz.com
[09:02] <Warbo> sudo mke2fs -j /dev/device < furrykef
[09:02] <Kirk_> verix: OK thanks.
[09:02] <Kirk_> Good night all.  I might be back tomorrow for setup.
[09:02] <verix> if you're trying to get it on the network like that anyhow, I'm not so keen on dns and bind and such things
[09:03] <filemover> hi i keep on gettting Authentication failure when trying to change to root in a terminal but I know for certain what my password is can anyone help
[09:03] <geoffP271> do you have access to your fstab, and entry foy any USB drives, if you have them?
[09:03] <polpak> filemover: how are you "trying to change to a root terminal" ?
[09:03] <Flannel> filemover: using sudo you mean?
[09:03] <filemover> using su
[09:03] <blanky> I know I just asked this, but what's the command to tar.gz a directory and it's files
[09:03] <polpak> filemover: the root account is disabled use sudo
[09:03] <Flannel> filemover: root is disabled in ubuntu.  use sudo.
[09:03] <furrykef> Also in ubuntu's partitioner, I see these /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 (and -LogVol01) things
[09:03] <notamisfit> geoffP271: my usb drive doesn't have an fstab entry. pmount picks it up automatically
[09:03] <Flannel> !sudo
[09:03] <furrykef> Could they be interfering?
[09:03] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:03] <filemover> sudo
[09:03] <furrykef> They were created when I tried to install Fedora Core 5.
[09:03] <Flannel> for more information, filemover.  that url.
[09:03] <filemover> ok thnx
[09:04] <geoffP271> filemover, go to users/groups, add root, etc
[09:04] <Flannel> geoffP271: no reason to add root.
[09:04] <filemover> so i go sudo -u root password
[09:04] <tritium> geoffP271: please don't advise that
[09:04] <geoffP271> I understand, but you can edit it, and change pswd
[09:04] <polpak> filemover: don't do that
[09:05] <filemover> k
[09:05] <Warbo> furrykef: I know GParted doesn't understand LVM
[09:05] <Flannel> filemover: there's very few real reasons to add a root account.
[09:05] <polpak> filemover: just use sudo -i if you need a root shell
[09:05] <tritium> yes
[09:05] <furrykef> LVM?
[09:05] <polpak> filemover: but in general it's advised to just prefix your commands with sudo
[09:05] <filemover> i just want to execute a file that i cant execute as a normal user
[09:05] <narfmaster> furrykef, LVM = what Fedora does by default
[09:05] <filemover> ok
[09:05] <furrykef> Well... how can I undo it?
[09:05] <polpak> filemover: then type sudo /path/to/priviliged/command
[09:06] <filemover> ok
[09:06] <Warbo> furrykef: Logical Volume Manager. It's great, and Fedora uses it by default (those device mapper things). The Ubuntu text-installer can use it, but not the graphical one
[09:06] <filemover> i see
[09:06] <polpak> filemover: then type your password
[09:06] <filemover> great way to do it
[09:06] <filemover> ok
[09:06] <blanky> WOW!!! I synchronized my time because it was like 12 hours off, and now I get this error!
[09:06] <blanky> hey guys, how can I 'tar.gz' a directory and it's files
[09:06] <blanky> er
[09:06] <blanky> this one
[09:06] <filemover> then just use history to reuse it
[09:06] <narfmaster> furrykef, you'll have to delete those partitions to change them
[09:07] <Warbo> furrykef: You have "Physical Volumes" (specially formatted partitions) which are added to "Volume Groups" which then are divided into "Logical Volumes". Probably just removing the physical volumes will get rid of it all
[09:07] <blanky> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul 14 06:47:13 2006
[09:07] <blanky> what to do!
[09:07] <narfmaster> blanky, sudo -K
[09:08] <furrykef> OK, I'm trying that...
[09:08] <blanky> narfmaster, same message :(
[09:08] <furrykef> It feels weird being able to install an OS and chat at the same time on the same computer... never did that before :)
[09:08] <blanky> narfmaster, ?
[09:08] <polpak> blanky: just shutdown your computer and wait 12 hours ;p
[09:08] <blanky> WOW
[09:08] <narfmaster> blanky, you'll have to adjust your time somehow :p
[09:09] <blanky> this is stupid because the same thing happens all the time, for some reason my time's way off
[09:09] <blanky> should I 'use UTC' ?
[09:09] <polpak> blanky: you should use your timezone
[09:09] <narfmaster> blanky, yeah try UTC
[09:09] <Flannel> no.  UTC is what your system clock should be set to.
[09:09] <polpak> blanky: and you should stay updated with ntpd
[09:09] <blanky> I tried UTC and now my time is like 7 AM (it's 12 AM)
[09:10] <tritium> only if you don't have dual-boot with windows
[09:10] <blanky> polpak, yeah I should
[09:10] <Flannel> blanky: you need to set your timezone
[09:10] <blanky> my timezone is messed up, I chose my timezone and it sets it to -7, when it's in fact -8
[09:10] <blanky> and still, that's way off
[09:10] <colk> blanky, 7am is right for UTC
[09:10] <filemover> im having some trouble enabling usb audio can anyone suggest something
[09:10] <blanky> colk, oh really?
[09:10] <colk> well 1 hour off
[09:10] <colk> UTC is GMT +0
[09:10] <Flannel> blanky: your system clock gets set to UTC, then linux changes the 'local time' for you, per the offset.
[09:11] <colk> wait 7 am is correct
[09:11] <blanky> oh, that's not what I want it to be
[09:11] <colk> for UTC
[09:11] <blanky> I want GMT -8
[09:11] <Flannel> blanky: Where do you live?
[09:11] <renaldo> could somebody help me adjust my screen resolution
[09:11] <colk> ok then TZ=PDT
[09:11] <colk> i think
[09:11] <blanky> Southern California, Los Angeles Area
[09:11] <blanky> Flannel, *
[09:12] <Madpilot> blanky, PDT is GMT -7 currently, though
[09:12] <Flannel> blanky: You want PDT, which is -7.  As you're on DST.
[09:12] <Flannel> PST is -8
[09:12] <blanky> ohhhh no wonder
[09:12] <blanky> so -7 is in fact right
[09:12] <s|k> oh my god, memtest operates indefinetely
[09:12] <blanky> Thanks guys lol
[09:12] <s|k> nobody told me this
[09:12] <s|k> I had to read it
[09:12] <s|k> this thing could be doing it for years
[09:13] <`Evil`> Just curious, how long or how may cmds does terminal store in history? Cos when I press up it goes back till my first cmd (about 3days) and also the list changes in normal and super-user  :?
[09:13] <filemover> are there any fancy terminal programmes for ubuntu
[09:13] <Flannel> filemover: there are plenty, what you looking for?
[09:13] <colk> blanky, you should be able to use the config tools in Ubuntu to set it
[09:13] <filemover> can some one suggest something
[09:13] <bbrazil> `Evil`: 400 is the defaul in bash iirc. See HISTCONTROL in the manpage
[09:13] <colk> or tzselect in terminal
[09:13] <filemover> something similar to what they have in suse
[09:14] <`Evil`> bbrazil, thanks :)
[09:14] <renaldo> i've seen some users get on the internet right from the terminal window
[09:14] <colk> `Evil`, and the history is diffrent in root and user because of the diffrent history files
[09:14] <renaldo> how do they do that
[09:14] <filemover> one that u can customize
[09:14] <Taget> I have Ubunto, but it doesn't support my Wireless Linksys Device.  Any Suggestions?
[09:14] <`Evil`> colk, Ah, i see
[09:14] <polpak> !wireless > Taget
[09:14] <Taget> yes?
[09:14] <colk> your history is stored in bash.history
[09:14] <bbrazil> colk: .bash_history
[09:15] <polpak> Taget: read the msg ubotu sent you
[09:15] <polpak> Taget: particularly the bit about ndiswrapper
[09:15] <Taget> tried it. no success.
[09:16] <No1Viking> I installed apache and can get to the site through localhost, how do I change rights so I can reach it with my IP-address?
[09:16] <Taget> It's in the configuration file
[09:16] <Flannel> No1Viking: you should be able to already.  unless you have a router in the way
[09:16] <polpak> Taget: then you need to complain to your manufacturer for not providing an open spec or linux drivers and (find supported hardware or wait for kernel updates.)
[09:16] <Flannel> No1Viking: in that case you'll have to setup port forwarding (or something like it) on the router
[09:16] <narfmaster> No1Viking, check your firewall settings
[09:16] <No1Viking> Flannel, I can reach the site but have no rights to read th content
[09:17] <No1Viking> Forbidden
[09:17] <No1Viking> You don't have permission to access /moodle on this server.
[09:17] <Taget> Apparently Linksys overlooks linux in general
[09:17] <No1Viking> The error I get
[09:17] <No1Viking> ^^^^
[09:17] <polpak> No1Viking: what are the permissions on the directory/file?
[09:18] <_CeRt_> .//join #slug
[09:18] <colk> which card is it Taget
[09:18] <Taget> who can I E-Mail about kernel updates?
[09:18] <No1Viking> polpak, lemme check
[09:18] <polpak> No1Viking: directories need to be world readable and executable, and files need to be world readable
[09:18] <Flannel> polpak: or owned by www-data
[09:18] <No1Viking> polpak, Ok, thanks
[09:18] <polpak> Flannel: indeed
[09:18] <No1Viking> I'll try with that
[09:18] <colk> I see a few listed in the wiki
[09:19] <No1Viking> Thanks guys
[09:19] <colk> under ndiswrapper
[09:20] <IRCMonkeyx> hi friends, i am going to install wine (for running win programs in ubuntu), but my windows drive is ntfs, will there be any problem?
[09:21] <narfmaster> IRCMonkeyx, you don't use Wine with a Windows drive
[09:21] <filemover> whats the closest font to tahoma
[09:21] <filemover> in ubuntu
[09:21] <`Evil`> IRCMonkeyx, Wine uses your linux partition only, just creates kind of a virtual drive (i think) :)
[09:22] <IRCMonkeyx> isnt wine for running win programs in linux???
[09:22] <`Evil`> IRCMonkeyx, Yes it is
[09:22] <narfmaster> IRCMonkeyx, yes but you install them in a special folder
[09:22] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyx: You can copy some DLLs across from Windows to WINE which may make it run more stuff though
[09:23] <IRCMonkeyx> so ntfs or fat32 is not matter of subject?
[09:24] <narfmaster> IRCMonkeyx, no
[09:24] <Lobster> IRCMonkeyx, it will not be a problem, but you ant write on it and may some programs that have to write temp-or-whatever-files onto the ntfs-system will not work
[09:24] <chavo> IRCMonkeyx, if you try to use wine on programs that are on ntfs it won't work
[09:24] <IRCMonkeyx> warbo: what about , if i only have linux in my pc, so, wine has no use??
[09:25] <rsteele> ok
[09:25] <chavo> IRCMonkeyx, no it will create a fake windows drive in your home dir
[09:25] <LarsJ> Hello everybody. I have dumped windows for Ubuntu, I'm just learning, setup apache2, works great. Is there any way to change things so i can edit files in "/var/www" without having to do "sudo" all the time? BTW: im using this for site development, not actual live site hosting. Ubuntu rocks!
[09:25] <IRCMonkeyx> chavo: so that, wine is not useful for me at the moment because  windows drive is ntfs
[09:26] <chavo> then you can either install the programs there, or copy them from your ntfs
[09:26] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyx: WINE replaces Windows functions, but if you legally have access to real Windows functions (ie. You have Windows DLLs installed) then you can use those for better compatibility
[09:26] <narfmaster> IRCMonkeyx, Wine has nothing to do with Windows
[09:26] <chavo> LarsJ, you can take ownership of /var/www or change the http root to a directory that you own
[09:26] <siimo> hi anyone know a freeware mp3 to 3GP file converter for Ubuntu or any other linux
[09:27] <narfmaster> IRCMonkeyx, Wine only runs Windows applications
[09:27] <Warbo> siimo: Try gnomefiles.org
[09:27] <IRCMonkeyx> narfmaster: lets say i am gonna run excel, won't wine call my windows drive/program files ?
[09:28] <siimo> Warbo: no hits mate
[09:28] <siimo> cept real player
[09:28] <siimo> but thats only a player
[09:28] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyx: No, because you have installed Excel into the virtual WINE drive on your Linux partition
[09:28] <chavo> IRCMonkeyx, you install it into the fake windows drive like I said
[09:29] <Lobster> IRCMonkeyx, wine is able to execute a .exe file and don't cares where it is stored
[09:29] <LarsJ> chavo, I do that via consol and a sudo command right? i got a bookmark to a cool list of consol commands if thats the case and I'll have a look at that again.
[09:29] <chavo> and it will create shortcuts in your menu also
[09:29] <Lobster> LarsJ, i think you have to use chown
[09:29] <IRCMonkeyx> ohh i see, last question is installation win programs to wine (installing dll's etc) difficult??
[09:29] <Lobster> mut i'm not sure
[09:30] <chavo> LarsJ, chown username.username /var/www will do it but make sure this is local server only
[09:30] <Lobster> may read the mangpages ;)
[09:30] <narfmaster> IRCMonkeyx, no more difficult than in Windows
[09:30] <filemover> can anyone help me enable usb audio
[09:30] <chavo> woops need a -R on there to get the sub dirs
[09:30] <chavo> sudo chown username.username /var/www -R
[09:30] <Lobster> but don't expect wine to run every application you have...
[09:30] <IRCMonkeyx> friends thank you very much  for your interest
[09:30] <chavo> with your username of course
[09:31] <Lobster> when you have installed wine properly run in the terminal winecfg
[09:31] <chavo> IRCMonkeyx, also I haven't tried Office in regualr wine but it does work well with Crossover Office
[09:31] <verix> man
[09:31] <verix> vmware takes forever to make a disc
[09:31] <LarsJ> i sure do filemover, I just found that out via google heh, thanks
[09:32] <IRCMonkeyx> lobster: is there any spesific thing after running winecfg ?
[09:32] <Lobster> there you can configure yous wine-system...
[09:33] <Lobster> you'll have to find out what works best for you
[09:33] <LarsJ> thanks chavo! damn you guys are helpful. thanks again....worked sweet.
[09:34] <blanky> how can I stop the system from making a beep everytime i backspace into the terminal or something
[09:34] <blanky> nevermind :D
[09:35] <SurfnKid> blanky, wow that seems to annoy everyone
[09:35] <SurfnKid> blanky, figure it out?
[09:35] <narfmaster> System > Preferences > Sound
[09:35] <blanky> yeah thanks guys
[09:36] <SurfnKid> nice
[09:36] <SurfnKid> finally mom wont be annoyed by it
[09:37] <blanky> lol
[09:37] <c6rxytx67r> hi
[09:38] <c6rxytx67r> ppl
[09:38] <c6rxytx67r> anyone there??
[09:38] <c6rxytx67r> hello
[09:38] <notamisfit> no. nobody's here
[09:38] <verix> anyone alive and familiar with vmware?
[09:38] <SurfnKid> nope
[09:39] <c6rxytx67r> ya i am
[09:39] <`Evil`> When I open gmail.com in Mozilla browser, it says doc cant be displayed unless Personal Security Manager is installed. Whats that?
[09:39] <verix> there's a way to boot an already-existing copy of XP on a machine that dualboots thru VMware, right?
[09:40] <c6rxytx67r> no
[09:40] <c6rxytx67r> i don't think so
[09:41] <c6rxytx67r> however u can make a installed machine with screenshot and use it on any no computers
[09:41] <verix> hm.
[09:41] <c6rxytx67r> register
[09:41] <m_0_r_0_n> Windows is not able to read my usbdisk (FAT 32) any more, since I ve saved files (mp3, txt) from Ubuntu. Any idea how to fix it???
[09:42] <c6rxytx67r> @m_0_r_0_n
[09:42] <m_0_r_0_n> ?
[09:42] <c6rxytx67r> this should not happen normally
[09:42] <c6rxytx67r> unless u had done something
[09:42] <SurfnKid> m_0_r_0_n, can you network both machines?
[09:42] <c6rxytx67r> does light in pen drive glow
[09:43] <m_0_r_0_n> I ve just copied files to my usbdisk , nothing else
[09:43] <SurfnKid> or is it one
[09:43] <Lobster> doesn't it appear anymore in windows or appers it as unformated device?
[09:43] <trabtr_> How may I be of service?
[09:43] <c6rxytx67r>  does light in  drive glow???
[09:44] <m_0_r_0_n> yes, windows struggles to read the disk
[09:44] <trabtr_> c6rxytx67r, if you're asking "do your lights glow while you're in drive" the answer is yes, if you have your lights _on_.....
[09:44] <c6rxytx67r> pls give in yes or no
[09:45] <trabtr_> I don't know what you're asking..
[09:45] <m_0_r_0_n> trabtr_,  [09:56] <c6rxytx67r>  does light in  drive glow???
[09:46] <trabtr_> I can see that, but what the hell does that mean?
[09:46] <filemover> how can i tell what devices relate to what files in /dev
[09:47] <waldek> hejka
[09:47] <waldek> jest tutaj ktos?
[09:47] <m_0_r_0_n> It s the same as "Is the sun shining? Or does the light in drive glow? :_9
[09:48] <trabtr_> Well it's night time here :)
[09:48] <Matthai> one question... to who should I report broken package?
[09:48] <Lobster> Matthai, sure that its broken?
[09:48] <waldek> jest tutaj ktos z polski??
[09:48] <Lobster> !pl
[09:48] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:49] <Matthai> actually it has dependency problem. apt-get install realplayer
[09:49] <waldek> o widze ze jesescie:)
[09:49] <Matthai> xlibs is broken
[09:49] <Lobster> Matthai, did you run apt-get update and tryed again?
[09:49] <Matthai> yes
[09:49] <rellim> yo
[09:49] <m_0_r_0_n> trabtr_, then the answer would be no ;-)
[09:49] <Lobster> i got thar problem too.
[09:49] <c6rxytx67r> m_0_r_0_n i am asking that on ur removeable flash disk there must be a led light. does it glow???
[09:49] <trabtr_> m_0_r_0_n, k.
[09:49] <Lobster> *that
[09:50] <Lobster> i installed the breezy-version and everything is fine ;)
[09:50] <m_0_r_0_n> c6rxytx67r, yes
[09:50] <Matthai> and another problem is with vmware
[09:50] <rellim> c6rxytx67r: not all flash drives have leds .... just fyi
[09:50] <waldek> mam pytanie jaki jesr adres na  irc PL?/
[09:50] <Matthai> yes, I also installed deb package from breezy, but it is user unfriendly for average user
[09:51] <narfmaster> !pl
[09:51] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:51] <m_0_r_0_n> My flash drive has got a red light, that is glowing when windows tries to read it
[09:51] <rellim> Lobster: yeah, i've heard of some issues here and there that pop up in dapper but not in breezy ... its weird
[09:51] <Matthai> Lobster, I found it right now
[09:51] <Lobster> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=xlibs&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all <-- i used that one
[09:51] <m_0_r_0_n> But it cant and the mounted drive dissappier from the explorer
[09:51] <Matthai> realplay is the right package
[09:52] <Matthai> but, I think wiki should be repaired then
[09:52] <Lobster> sure... repair it ;)
[09:53] <m_0_r_0_n> May be it has to do something with UTF-8 that is not convenient for FAT32???
[09:53] <paied> not convenient lol
[09:54] <narfmaster> hmm UTF-8 and FAT32 have some relationship?
[09:55] <filemover> whats the default device file in dev for the sound card is it dsp or dsp1
[09:55] <Matthai> what about this one: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214899
[09:55] <Matthai> problem with vmware player
[09:55] <Madpilot> narfmaster, not as far as I know - why?
[09:56] <narfmaster> Madpilot, i was thinking maybe the file names...
[09:56] <narfmaster> Matthai, the kernel is ahead of the vmware player kernel module, yes
[09:56] <narfmaster> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vmware-player-kernel-2.6.15/+bug/52768
[09:57] <Hoxzer> can I somehow remove that warning about file type doesn't inform to be same as the contest of the file?
[09:57] <m_0_r_0_n> UTF-8 consider upper and lower case, but Windows is not able to distinguish upper and lower case
[09:58] <Matthai> narfmaster, ok, it is possible to compile it from the source?
[09:58] <narfmaster> m_0_r_0_n, the problem is that the Linux FAT32 driver should handle all that
[09:58] <verix> Matthai: I don't think so, VMware isn't exactly open-source
[09:58] <nano-> Are there any gnome bluetooth device file browser? So that I can easily pull files off my phone to my computer? The only application I can find is obexftp and it has some rough edges.
[09:59] <narfmaster> Matthai, i think it is possible but i'd rather wait for the official VMware maintainers
[09:59] <Matthai> OK
[10:00] <snoops> can I define in gconf or somewhere else what dimensions the window stretches to when I hit maximise?
[10:00] <narfmaster> Matthai, otherwise you might taint your kernel and that would be bad
[10:00] <Matthai> what happens when there is new kernel installed and you already have vmwware?
[10:00] <Matthai> something gets broken?
[10:00] <m_0_r_0_n> my usbdisk btw :-) http://www.trashfun.de/out.php?id=1170
[10:01] <narfmaster> Matthai, you either update your kernel later or don't use vmplayer (or install vmware yourself without the repos)
[10:02] <Matthai> hmm, but my problem is, that vmware installer said there is previous instance of vmware deteceted on the system
[10:02] <Matthai> but i did apt-get remove --purge
[10:03] <narfmaster> Matthai, i have no idea how to fix that
[10:03] <OrgulloKmoore> !dma
[10:03] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[10:04] <Matthai> ok, my "last" question: How to display program bars individual bars in the taskbar. By default if there is several copies of one program running, the "bars" are "joined" in the taskbar. How to remove that?
[10:05] <VoX> what is dapper-alternate.iso?
[10:05] <_MR_> Hi. Did anyone encounter very slow aptitude 'read/write package states' phase on Edgy?
[10:06] <narfmaster> VoX, that is the Dapper Drake with the text and OEM installers
[10:07] <VoX> ah ok
[10:07] <narfmaster> Matthai, if you right click on the Window List applet, that will let you change the Window Grouping preferences
[10:07] <Gorlist> Hi
[10:07] <Gorlist> just installed Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit from the server download
[10:08] <Gorlist> when the computer reboots and goes to load just takes me to a terminal??
[10:08] <Gorlist> fails to load into ubuntu
[10:08] <narfmaster> Gorlist, server means non-desktop
[10:08] <Gorlist> right!
[10:09] <Gorlist> I installed this ubuntu through a none gui installer?
[10:09] <narfmaster> so terminal is where you start
[10:09] <DiaboloX> hello!
[10:09] <bruenig> Gorlist, it loads into ubuntu, just not into gnome
[10:09] <DiaboloX> somebody can help me? jeje :P
[10:10] <narfmaster> Gorlist, if you want a desktop, you'll need to install one (like "ubuntu-desktop")
[10:10] <bruenig> Gorlist, if you want the desktop and you have an internet connection just do this: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[10:10] <Gorlist> the problem im having with using Ubuntu Desktop
[10:10] <Gorlist> is when it loads into Ubuntu from the CD, then you go to install it crashes
[10:11] <Gorlist> seems random, computer locks
[10:11] <Gorlist> now the Ubuntu 6.06 I used to install on this computer (32 bit) only had a text type installer
[10:11] <Gorlist> no gui
[10:11] <Matthai> narfmaster, thanks a lot
[10:11] <narfmaster> Matthai, no problem
[10:12] <jimwhimpey> I've just installed Ubuntu, but it keeps booting into windows, I switched the boot drive to D which is the partition I installed Ubuntu on
[10:12] <bruenig> Gorlist, that was the live cd ubuntu-desktop certainly more volatile than one on the hard disk. if you just do "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" all of your woes will be behind you
[10:12] <Gorlist> I can do that from the terminal?
[10:12] <Gorlist> will it be the same as a normal install
[10:12] <bruenig> yes
[10:12] <bruenig> just type that command
[10:12] <Gorlist> this is whats confusing me you see, this computer I install buntu like the server
[10:13] <Gorlist> ok thanks
[10:14] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, did you install ubuntu with the live cd?
[10:15] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: yep!
[10:15] <MenZa> bruenig: is there any other way ;P?
[10:15] <jimwhimpey> MenZa: don't distract him!
[10:15] <MenZa> jimwhimpey: rofl
[10:15] <bruenig> MenZa, well the server cd or the alternate install both use a keyboard based installation
[10:15] <MenZa> bruenig: point taken, point taken.
[10:16] <jimwhimpey> look what you've done MenZa
[10:16] <MenZa> jimwhimpey: xD
[10:16] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, if you installed it with the live cd it should have also installed grub
[10:16] <MenZa> I shan't keep posting offtopic stuff--tally ho!
[10:16] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: what's that mean?
[10:16] <bruenig> when you boot your computer it should give you an option to boot into ubuntu or windows
[10:16] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: that doesn't happen
[10:17] <jimwhimpey> is it because I didn't allocate a 'swap' drive?
[10:17] <Gorlist> right thanks, its installing
[10:17] <vicfred> hi all
[10:17] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, probably should have allocated a swap partition but I wouldn't think that would make it impossible to boot into
[10:18] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, did the install go all the way through and them prompted you asking if you wanted to restart now or continue using the live cd?
[10:18] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: that's the thing, I let it install, walked away and came back to the Ubuntu desktop
[10:19] <jimwhimpey> I was expecting some sort of confirmation
[10:19] <bruenig> when you came back did it have a little window which gave you two options one saying "Restart Now" and the other saying "Continue using the live cd"
[10:19] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: nope, just the desktop
[10:19] <bruenig> oh, i know what happened
[10:19] <jimwhimpey> yeah?
[10:20] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, did you just put the cd in and then turn your computer on and walk away?
[10:20] <moorh> Has anyone successfully used an Accton EN1207D with Ubuntu? From a bit of searching it seems to use the Realtek 8139 chipset
[10:20] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: haha, no
[10:20] <jimwhimpey> I actually installed it =P
[10:21] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, damn would have solved it
[10:21] <jimwhimpey> went through the whole process
[10:21] <bruenig> so you partitioned and did the time zone stuff
[10:21] <Jsm> can any one help me? iv  sort of forgot how to switch to kde 'cuz gnome is ugly lol
[10:21] <MenZa> Jsm: log out, when you're in GDM, choose 'Select Session'. Click KDE.
[10:22] <Jsm> Thanks MenZa
[10:22] <MenZa> np.
[10:22] <bruenig> jim, did you partition it?
[10:22] <dragon> hi
[10:23] <timalot> what un-official repositories are there for ubuntu?
[10:23] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: it was already partitioned, I just formatted one of the partitions, and set it as '/'
[10:23] <dragon> just wondering what is the code to install on hoary (installing java...)
[10:23] <bruenig> what did you format it as? i.e. what was the file system?
[10:24] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: don't know?
[10:24] <jimwhimpey> just checked the format box
[10:25] <bruenig> did you manually edit the partition table? and then hit forward?
[10:25] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: yep
[10:25] <bruenig> but didn't edit anything?
[10:25] <timalot> dragon: its on the wiki... u have to install a package then dload the binaries from sun... then make a package that u can install
[10:25] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: no, hang on
[10:25] <jimwhimpey> I'll do it all over again
[10:25] <jimwhimpey> and make the windows drive the swap
[10:25] <jimwhimpey> and watch it install all the way through
[10:25] <dragon> i know
[10:25] <jimwhimpey> brb
[10:26] <bruenig> well it is very simple, just make sure that you make a / partition that has an ext3 file system and make sure you have a swap partition of about twice your ram that has a file system of linux-swap
[10:26] <dragon> sudo -i dpkg install or sumtin
[10:26] <filemover> i just got usb audio to work by creating sym lynks to the devices /dev/audio and /dev/dsp is there somewhere i can put this script so that it will run when i plug in my usb headset so that it switches the soundcard
[10:27] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: can the windows partition be the swap?
[10:27] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, how much RAM do you have,
[10:28] <filemover> the windows partition is ntfs
[10:28] <`Evil`> jimwhimpey, how many drives do you have?
[10:28] <jimwhimpey> 348, something like that
[10:28] <filemover> u cant use it as a swap
[10:28] <bruenig> and is entirely too big
[10:28] <bruenig> your swap should only be at most 1 Gig
[10:28] <bruenig> here is what you do
[10:29] <jimwhimpey> `Evil`: one drive, 2 partitions
[10:29] <filemover> so can anyone help me with my question about that script for swaping my sound card
[10:30] <bruenig> go to manually edit the partition table. Go to the D drive as you call it and right click on it and select Delete.  Make it 750 MB and where it says file format make it linux-swap and keep it primary
[10:30] <jimwhimpey> hrmm ok
[10:30] <`Evil`> jimwhimpey, K, I'd follow bruenig's advice. Re-format and repartition to create swap space and re-install
[10:30] <bruenig> that will bring you back to the previous screen right click on the space you didn't use and hit create. Make this one ext3 file system and primary, Allow it to take up the remaining space and then go forward
[10:31] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: so I'll have 3 partitions?
[10:31] <bruenig> yes
[10:31] <jimwhimpey> do I set the ext3 one as '/'
[10:31] <bruenig> yes
[10:31] <bruenig> and the other one as swap
[10:31] <bruenig> leave whatever the windows one gives you
[10:31] <jimwhimpey> and the original windows one?
[10:31] <jimwhimpey> ok cool
[10:31] <bruenig> probably something like /media/sda1
[10:31] <jimwhimpey> I'll go and try that now
[10:31] <_MR_> joint #edgy
[10:31] <jimwhimpey> yep, that's what it was
[10:32] <jimwhimpey> ok, I'll go do that and let you know how it goes
[10:32] <bruenig> thats fine
[10:32] <_MR_> Hi. Did anyone encounter very slow aptitude 'read/write package states' phase on Edgy?
[10:34] <sri_> hi
[10:34] <crazy4ubuntu> hi I am having a strange msg over and over again
[10:34] <crazy4ubuntu> I get this msg could not
[10:34] <bruenig> !pastebin
[10:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:34] <bruenig> use that if it is long
[10:34] <sri_> I for got my root password (how to recover it??)i know my admin password
[10:36] <pvh> hi... is there any way to easily get a list of how much space various packages in an ubuntu install are taking up?
[10:36] <pvh> i need to clear up space - delete big packages i dont' need...
[10:36] <gnube> pvh, I am sure there is a way to do that.
[10:36] <gnube> pvh, But is that the best way to get more space?
[10:37] <gnube> pvh, You might inadvertantly delete a package you need.
[10:37] <Dynalon> hi eb, sb knows where to download dapper restricted repo on DVD?
[10:37] <pvh> gnube: well, i know i don't need h323 libraries on this package, for instance
[10:37] <bruenig> pvh, sudo apt-get clean deletes all downloaded packages that you have gotten from apt
[10:37] <gnube> pvh, Do you have a lot of big files, like music and images?\
[10:37] <pvh> gnube: nope, this is for a live cd
[10:37] <filemover> is there a music player like foobar for ubuntu
[10:37] <gnube> pvh, Oh I see!
[10:37] <crazy4ubuntu> here is the msg, I did what advised but... I didn't help
[10:37] <crazy4ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17983
[10:38] <pvh> so what's taking up the extra space is extra scientific packages....
[10:38] <crazy4ubuntu> can any1 help with that ?
[10:38] <pvh> bruenig: thanks
[10:38] <sri_> I for got my root password (how to recover it??)i know my admin password
[10:38] <sri_> sorry i lost
[10:38] <bruenig> yeah, crazy4ubuntu, do as it says
[10:38] <bruenig> do this dpkg --configure -a
[10:38] <gnube> crazy4ubuntu, Did you run the command as root?
[10:38] <pvh> 'admin' password? you mean a user who is in admin group ?
[10:38] <crazy4ubuntu> yeah
[10:39] <crazy4ubuntu> I ran as root
[10:39] <bruenig> do dpkg --configure -a in the terminal
[10:39] <crazy4ubuntu> but i didn't help
[10:39] <filemover> is there a music player like foobar for ubuntu
[10:39] <bruenig> you probably interrupted a download
[10:39] <crazy4ubuntu> it didn't help
[10:39] <bruenig> hmm
[10:39] <crazy4ubuntu> it is a long process which does nothing ?
[10:39] <sri_> pvh, no i have my admin password but i forgot my root password
[10:39] <gnube> filemover, Sorry, not familiar with foobar
[10:39] <filemover> k
[10:39] <gnube> crazy4ubuntu, No, did the command line return?
[10:39] <bruenig> did you try to do whatever you were trying to do after that again?
[10:39] <pvh> sri_: then you can become root using 'sudo su' i think
[10:40] <crazy4ubuntu> no
[10:40] <pvh> and then changed the root password with passwd
[10:40] <crazy4ubuntu> it did not come back
[10:40] <crazy4ubuntu> it stuck
[10:40] <filemover> whats the most configurable player for ubuntu with a Graphic equalizer
[10:40] <gnube> crazy4ubuntu, Remember, in UNIX and Linux, Silence == success.
[10:40] <timalot> pvh, dpkg --status <package name> gives the install size
[10:40] <gnube> crazy4ubuntu, How long did you wait.
[10:40] <lavi> hi,
[10:40] <pvh> timalot: thanks!
[10:40] <sri_> pvh, ya,but sudo su logs into admin account,but not in roots account
[10:40] <crazy4ubuntu> hmm about 30 min
[10:40] <lavi>  gnome-terminanl seems having a largme memory while running(4.2 percent in 386M), has any terimale tool else instead?
[10:40] <crazy4ubuntu> it is p3 so things take time
[10:40] <pvh> sri_: no, it logs in as root...
[10:40] <filemover> is amarok ok to install on ubuntu
[10:40] <bruenig> lavi, you can use xterm
[10:41] <MenZa> filemover: of course it is
[10:41] <MenZa> sudo apt-get install amarok
[10:41] <crazy4ubuntu> it also says fix broken packages
[10:41] <filemover> ok
[10:41] <sri_> ya ,try by typing su
[10:41] <someusernoob> no
[10:41] <filemover> so u just add it via add/remove programmes
[10:41] <crazy4ubuntu> but I can't when I open synaptic it says there is another process dealing with packages
[10:41] <sri_> pvh, if u type su then u log into roots account
[10:41] <someusernoob> type: sudo aptitude install amarok
[10:41] <gnube> crazy4ubuntu, Yeah, it looks like you quit your package management in the middle of a download.
[10:41] <lavi> bruenig, I dont know how to profile the xtem, it seems hard to confiugure, has it mulit-tab feature ?
[10:41] <pvh> sri_: yes, and then u can change the root password ;)
[10:41] <fourat> anyone can ping this : <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:42] <sri_> pvh, How??
[10:42] <pvh> sri_: passwd
[10:42] <bruenig> lavi, if you are looking for a light terminal, you are going to have to give up things like menus and tabs
[10:42] <timalot> fourat, no
[10:42] <Subhuman> fourat, thats down
[10:42] <pvh> fourat: no
[10:42] <sri_> pvh, if we type that cmd then it asks for old password
[10:42] <crazy4ubuntu> I guess, I was in a middle of updating mysystem when the computare completly froze ! I had to reboot
[10:42] <bruenig> crazy4ubuntu, that is what happens when apt is interrupted
[10:42] <sri_> pvh, i changed the password before
[10:42] <bruenig> either during update or installing packages
[10:43] <crazy4ubuntu> hmm ... can I solve it somehow ?
[10:43] <lavi> bruenig, cool :)
[10:43] <pvh> sri_: ok, then... do this: 'vipw' - that edits the password file
[10:43] <MenZa> filemover: no, just run sudo apt-get install amarok in your terminal.
[10:43] <fourat> thanks all
[10:43] <bruenig> that happened to me when flashplugin-nonfree got pulled from the repos right in the middle of my download
[10:43] <sri_> pvh, 1m
[10:43] <someusernoob> filemover: use sudo aptitude install amarok
[10:43] <pvh> and remove root's encrypted password - that's the bit between the colons (i.. ':') characters - 2nd field on the line
[10:43] <someusernoob> filemover: it will be easier to remove if you want to
[10:43] <pvh> save and you're done ;)
[10:43] <`Evil`> Can I run kopete in gnome?
[10:43] <crazy4ubuntu> bruenig, so how did you solve it ?
[10:43] <filemover> ok ill try it
[10:44] <filemover> aptitude command not found
[10:44] <bruenig> i had just installed the system and was just getting it ready with all of the codecs and plugins and stuff. so i just reinstalled
[10:44] <filemover> :(
[10:44] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: what do I put for preceeding and following space?
[10:45] <sri_> pvh, ya i open it through my admin account then how can i change it??
[10:45] <someusernoob> and you got ubuntu?
[10:45] <filemover> ill just do it though add/remove will that be ok
[10:45] <bruenig> when you make your first partition, you just make it 750 MB and whatever it gives you for space just take it
[10:45] <someusernoob> filemover: do this first: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[10:45] <filemover> ok
[10:45] <sri_> pvh, what is the process??
[10:45] <filemover> thnx
[10:45] <neon_> somebody knows something to convert .srt to .sub?
[10:46] <bruenig> when you make your second partition the following space should be 0, I am not sure how they measure preceeding space so I can't tell you that exactly
[10:46] <sri_> neon_, just use mv
[10:46] <filemover> wow
[10:46] <XrekcaH> ** Hey, Im having a really hard time geting the "make" and "make install" commands to work always says "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop." but there is a makefile in the folder were i am... Any ideas???
[10:46] <filemover> amazing
[10:46] <someusernoob> filemover: installing applications with aptitude is much cleaner, because it keeps track of the installed dependencies, and since amarok is a kde app, it will install a lot of kde libs, so if you wish to remove it sometime, apt-get wont remove the dependencies
[10:46] <filemover> it just installed itself
[10:46] <neon_> sri_, just mv?
[10:46] <neon_> mm
[10:46] <filemover> LOL
[10:47] <sri_> neon_, ya type mv oldfile,newfile
[10:47] <arkygeek> hi everyone
[10:47] <bruenig> yeah, using kde on gnome gums up the system really badly
[10:47] <someusernoob> filemover: and aptitude does. so always type aptitude instead of apt-get, and yes, its a great way of installing stuff :)
[10:47] <sri_> pvh, can u tell about the password changing?
[10:47] <timalot> XrekcaH, u can try make -f makefilename
[10:47] <arkygeek> i am trying to set my intel i915 to not use the crt as a clone, but not having luck.. any ideas?
[10:47] <filemover> i did that now it still says command not found :(
[10:47] <filemover> sorry i spealt it wrong
[10:48] <someusernoob> filemover: what happens when you just type aptitude?
[10:48] <bruenig> he spelled it wrong
[10:48] <bruenig> or rather spealt it wrong
[10:48] <XrekcaH> timalot, the makefilename is ??? just makefile right?
[10:48] <someusernoob> brueing, ah, ic
[10:48] <`Evil`> bruenig, can i run kopete on gnome w/o any major issues?
[10:48] <timalot> XrekcaH, right makefilename is the name of the makefile... i think make looks for Makefile as a default
[10:48] <filemover> amarok is 100 mb is this normal
[10:49] <XrekcaH> timalot, nope same thing
[10:49] <someusernoob> filemover: thats probably because of the needed KDE libraries.
[10:49] <zool2005> hi all
[10:49] <filemover> yeah
[10:49] <filemover> i see
[10:49] <filemover> anyway its downloading it all now
[10:49] <zool2005> where is the default location for C header files for the running kernel?
[10:49] <timalot> rename your makefile to "Makefile" and give it a go
[10:49] <filemover> and happily installing itself
[10:49] <bruenig> i dont think there will be 'issues' it should run. It depends on the strength of your computer. My computer is not that great and so loading it up with a bunch of KDE dependencies doesn't agree much with it. If you have a good computer and a lot of space and stuff, there should be no real noticable difference
[10:49] <someusernoob> filemover: i should work fine when its installed
[10:49] <filemover> lol
[10:50] <filemover> yeah thanx for the help
[10:50] <filemover> its still doing its thing here
[10:50] <filemover> lol
[10:50] <OrgulloKmoore> k3b is about twice as slow as Nero :(
[10:50] <XrekcaH> ! make
[10:50] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:50] <filemover> its finished
[10:51] <filemover> wow
[10:51] <bruenig> OrgulloKmoore, are you using Kubuntu?
[10:51] <OrgulloKmoore> bruenig> yeah
[10:51] <filemover> installed like a treat
[10:51] <sri_> OrgulloKmoore, u can change the speed
[10:51] <timalot> XrekcaH, what is it some source u have dloaded and want compile/install?
[10:51] <`Evil`> bruenig, Ok. The dependencies for kde that you're saying, do they become a part of gnome and loaded everytime or have to be run kinda like wine?
[10:51] <OrgulloKmoore> how so, sri_?
[10:51] <someusernoob> filemover: yeah, much easier then installing stuff on a windows pc
[10:51] <OrgulloKmoore> I have the speed set at 32X an it goes at 10X anyway...
[10:52] <Subhuman> OrgulloKmoore, that means there are problems with your drive, how old is it?
[10:52] <gnube> `Evil`, No if you you install KDE and dependencies they will start automatically, it is not like wine at all.
[10:52] <sri_> OrgulloKmoore, there is an option like changing the speed
[10:52] <timalot> XrekcaH, usually the 1st thing u do is run ./configure --prefix=/usr/local in the source dir... then run make... then make install
[10:52] <bruenig> Evil, you just do 'sudo aptitude install kopete' it will have you install a ton of other stuff with it to make it run
[10:52] <Subhuman> burners wear out after a while.
[10:52] <sri_> OrgulloKmoore, 1m i will give the link
[10:52] <OrgulloKmoore> Subhuman> about a year old. I already did the hdparm command they specify at k3b.org
[10:52] <OrgulloKmoore> in the FAQ
[10:53] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: I just made those partitions but they came up with little warning signs and weren't on the next screen
[10:53] <bruenig> Evil, it runs like anything else and installs like anything else, but since it is not a native app, it runs a bit slower
[10:53] <`Evil`> gnube, Ok but I dont want to install KDE. atleat not yet, i only want to run kopete
[10:53] <Subhuman> OrgulloKmoore, if itz forcing 10x when u specified 32x, then it means your drive may have issues which cause it to write errors at 32x.
[10:53] <bruenig> Evil, you wont install KDE, just KDE dependencies
[10:53] <XrekcaH> Gaim2.0.0Beta3
[10:53] <sri_> OrgulloKmoore, u can seach in the ubuntu communities there is a discussion between k3b &gnome braker
[10:53] <XrekcaH> timalot
[10:53] <XrekcaH> ^^^
[10:53] <someusernoob> evil: sudo aptitude install kopete
[10:53] <deFrysk> kopete requires qt kdelibs and more kde related they call them "dependencies'
[10:54] <gnube> `Evil`, I understand. But to run Kopete you will have to install _some_ KDE stuff. You will not have to leave GNOME though.
[10:54] <someusernoob> evil: when you dont like it: sudo aptitude remove kopete
[10:54] <gnube> `Evil`, Gnome and KDE can live on the same box.
[10:54] <someusernoob> evil: and it wil be like youve never installed it
[10:54] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, what does your partitioning scheme look like
[10:54] <deFrysk> `Evil`, and if you dont like that use gaim
[10:54] <XrekcaH> timalot, i can never get the "make" command to work
[10:54] <`Evil`> someusernoob, gnube, bruening: Thanks for clearing that up
[10:55] <gnube> `Evil`, Gnome and KDE are just desktop environments. And while you cannot run both at the same time, you can run programs that use the other desktop environment.
[10:55] <`Evil`> deFrysk, I actually dont prefer gaim so much
[10:55] <timalot> XrekcaH, are you trying to install something from source?
[10:55] <XrekcaH> yea
[10:55] <zool2005> how do I install kernel source files, it isn't listed in synaptic?
[10:55] <deFrysk> `Evil`, I have xfce4 gnome and kde and useing gnome at the moment with some kde apps
[10:56] <MadsP> hi , this is the first time i ever run linux , i made a mistake by deleting the entire hd , and now im incapeable of running xp-setup . i cant seem to get the fdisk in terminal to work correct , so if one would be so kind to tell me how to format the entire harddrive, so i can start all over by installing xp and THEN linux in a 2nd partion it will be greatly apreciated. Q: how do I get back to absolute scratch again ?
[10:56] <XrekcaH> the install files says to do ./configure and then make then make install but no dice
[10:56] <bruenig> MadsP, just put the XP disk in
[10:56] <bruenig> if you have one
[10:56] <`Evil`> deFrysk, k thanks :)
[10:56] <Subhuman> Xappe, "sudo make install"
[10:56] <bruenig> unless by delete you mean completely wiped it as in bios and everything
[10:56] <MadsP> i have , but when its finished installing it runs : Error 17
[10:56] <timalot> XrekcaH, each step has to suceed.... configure makes sure u have the requirements to install the software
[10:57] <XrekcaH> yes
[10:57] <bruenig> MadsP, did you format it as ntfs and all of that stuff
[10:57] <filemover> can anyone help me ive got amarok installed but it wont play mp3's it just seems to skim through them really quickly
[10:57] <XrekcaH> that part works
[10:57] <XrekcaH> but make doesnt
[10:57] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: I have the Windows one, 10gb, I try to make the linux-swap one, but when it takes me forward it's not on the list there's just the windows partition, so I go back and it has a little warning sign next the the drive and says 'Unknown' under file sytem
[10:57] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, that warning sign is nothing
[10:57] <timalot> XrekcaH, configure will make a file called "Makefile" in the same directory... if it doesnt it has failed
[10:57] <bruenig> Jimwhimpey, you need to make both partitions before you hit forward
[10:57] <stefg> !codecs > filemover
[10:58] <XrekcaH> The makefile is in there
[10:58] <filemover> ive got the gstreamer codecs installed
[10:58] <XrekcaH> it made it
[10:58] <jimwhimpey> brunig: that's what I did the first time, they were both warning signs and weren't on the list in the next step
[10:58] <bruenig> Jimwhimpey, delete both of the warning sign partitions and make the swap partition, hit ok, then make the / partition hit ok and then hit forward
[10:58] <XrekcaH> but make command = no dice
[10:58] <stefg> filemover even 'bad' and 'ugly' ?
[10:58] <filemover> !codecs
[10:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:59] <timalot> XrekcaH, so when u type "make" it says no makefile found?
[10:59] <bruenig> try it again, perhaps but the / partition first and the swap second, that is How mine looks
[10:59] <GStubbs43> Why do 0's have little dots in them like eyes in some fonts?
[10:59] <XrekcaH> make: *** No rule to make target `makefile'.  Stop.
[10:59] <MadsP> well thing is that it didnt leave me any choice. i have reinstalled xp severa times before installing linux, and back then it gave me several options about partions type of hd etc. now only option is repair (and exit) , and by chosing repair, it says entire drive will be deleted , i have tried to chose that , and follow it to the end , and then when i reboot it comes with (gnome i think) error 17
[10:59] <timalot> XrekcaH, u dont type "make makfile" u just type make
[10:59] <bruenig> GStubbs43, that is how those fonts are
[10:59] <XrekcaH> i know
[10:59] <bruenig> Why does times new roman look like times new roman
[10:59] <bruenig> because it does
[10:59] <XrekcaH> thats what i did
[11:00] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: no go, not on the list, both warning signs
[11:00] <arkygeek> how do make keyboard shortcuts to commands?
[11:00] <timalot> XrekcaH,  "No rule to make target `makefile' " means u typed make makefile .... u just type make
[11:00] <XrekcaH> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[11:00] <XrekcaH> sry
[11:00] <bruenig> how big are these partitions you are making
[11:00] <XrekcaH> that the right one
[11:00] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: swap - 1gb, / - about 26gb
[11:00] <timalot> XrekcaH, that last error means there is no file called "makefile" or "Makefile" in the dir
[11:01] <bruenig> fomratted linux-swap and ext3 repsectively?
[11:01] <XrekcaH> there is
[11:01] <bruenig> respectively*
[11:01] <timalot> XrekcaH, well make cant find it
[11:01] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: I can't format them, they're not on the list of the next step where it gives you the checkbox to format
[11:01] <XrekcaH> so what do i do?
[11:01] <timalot> XrekcaH, if its called Makefile.am or Makefile.in it wont work
[11:02] <stefg> MadsP: Bad news, i guess your partiton table went haywire... not much to save. If you are experienced you could try a tool like testdisk, if it rebuilds a part-table for you, but messing around without knowing exactly what to do will only worsen the situation
[11:02] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, click the blank boxes under where the partitions are
[11:02] <bruenig> there should be an arrow
[11:02] <bruenig> and them pick the partition
[11:02] <bruenig> then*
[11:02] <filemover> is the Xine engine for amarok installed bye default in ubuntu or do u have to do it yourself
[11:02] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: ok, brb
[11:02] <XrekcaH> theres .in    .am   and .mingw
[11:02] <XrekcaH> three of them
[11:02] <XrekcaH> what do i do?
[11:03] <XrekcaH> rename?
[11:03] <timalot> XrekcaH, right it has  to be called Makefile not Makefile dot something else
[11:03] <timalot> XrekcaH, no dont rename....
[11:03] <MadsP> ehm , cant i chose a function to format the entire hd from terminal ?
[11:03] <MadsP> i read about that on microsoft support page
[11:03] <River> I have a ATI radeon 9800 pro on dapper. Cant someone point me to instructions to correctly get it working ?
[11:04] <timalot> XrekcaH, ./configure has to make a file called "Makefile" .... if it doesnt it wont work
[11:04] <stefg> MadsP: of course you can wipe the complete disk and start over... if there's no data on the drive you need
[11:04] <MadsP> there isnt it is on my external hd
[11:04] <MadsP> the data i need*
[11:05] <XrekcaH> timalot, i guess im lost here
[11:05] <MadsP> will you please tell me what to type to get to scratch (format all) ?
[11:05] <timalot> XrekcaH, whats the software u want to install?
[11:05] <bruenig> River, perhaps this helps? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:05] <sri_> how can i play .swf formats in which player?vlc can't play thos
[11:06] <stefg> MadsP: good... so think up a reasonable layout, and then boot a Live CD, erase the partition table and repartition the hd
[11:06] <XrekcaH> Gaim2.0.0beta3
[11:07] <stefg> !flash
[11:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:07] <sri_> stefg, how can i install flash?
[11:08] <stefg> sri_: please read it yourself :-)
[11:08] <MadsP> ok , i insert ubuntu desktop , chose run live ? (on install it gives me the options of partion) .. sorry im a novice ... does ubunt desktop (live cd) give me an option of just erase partion without further install ?
[11:08] <sri_> stefg, thank u
[11:09] <timalot> XrekcaH, like ubotu says u should look for pre-packaged software 1st.... to get gaim to compile u probably will need a few dev packages.... most likely libgtk+2.0-dev plus some others
[11:09] <Subhuman> MadsP, no you can resize the current  partition too
[11:09] <Subhuman> XrekcaH, you trying to complile gaim?
[11:09] <stefg> MadsP: the important point is to completly erase the partiton table first, so no broken bits and pieces fly around anymore
[11:09] <bruenig> hey XrekcaH, just a second, I found a .deb file for gaim 2.0 beta 3
[11:09] <bruenig> let me check it out and I will give you the link
[11:09] <sri_> stefg, can u tell the player name??
[11:09] <MadsP> and to that i have to choose?
[11:10] <Subhuman> XrekcaH, run "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim" , that will install all the dependencies you need to compile from source.
[11:10] <Subhuman> XrekcaH, then try to compile.
[11:10] <Subhuman> XrekcaH, and use checkinstall
[11:10] <Subhuman> !checkinstall
[11:10] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[11:10] <XrekcaH> ok ill give it a shot
[11:10] <timalot> Subhuman, cool i didnt know u could do that
[11:10] <bruenig> alright XrekcaH, use this link and download this package it is .deb and will work much more smoothly http://dissociatedpress.net/uploads/gaim-2.0.0beta3_2.0.0beta3-1_i386.deb
[11:12] <stefg> MadsP: just boot the live CD, i can walk you thru partitioning  fom there
[11:12] <bruenig> XrekcaH, did you do that?
[11:12] <MadsP> like insetting it now ? ok 2 secs
[11:13] <XrekcaH> Well i have to install from the source because i cant compile the plugins im trying to use for the beta with the deb
[11:13] <timalot> Subhuman, does check install only work on package source... or can it work on upstream tarballs aswell
[11:13] <bruenig> why not?
[11:13] <timalot> checkinstall
[11:13] <MadsP> ok , it is in now ? or did you mean i should reboot from Cd ?
[11:14] <stefg> !info flashplugin-nonfree > sri_
[11:14] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:15] <bruenig> XrekcaH, what plugins are you trying to get?
[11:15] <bruenig> let me see if i can get them with the .deb install
[11:16] <XrekcaH> guifications For the beta
[11:16] <Subhuman> timalot, anything that you "make install"
[11:16] <XrekcaH> thats the only one i have tryed so far
[11:16] <Subhuman> timalot, you just do "sudo checkinstall" instead of "sudo make install"
[11:17] <C|int> hey guys, long time no see
[11:17] <MadsP> please
[11:17] <Subhuman> XrekcaH, you dont compile the deb.
[11:17] <bigfoot1> how come when I try to "create archive", not all the selected files are in the package?
[11:17] <pvh> well... in case anyone's interested... i got a little bash-ism for listing the sizes of all installed packages...
[11:18] <bruenig> Subhuman, he doesn't want to use the deb because apparently it doesn't have a plugin that he wants
[11:18] <bigfoot1> (in nautilus).
[11:18] <Subhuman> XrekcaH, you jus do "sudo dpkg -i gaim-xxxx.deb" then install the plugins after.
[11:18] <stefg> MadsP: yes... you cant run a system off the hd you are about to erase completly... start the live CD and reconnect from there
[11:18] <C|int> hey guys, do you know if the xserver-xgl, xgl in general, would work on an Acer Aspire 3610, I just installed recent ubuntu lately, and from the nice package I got in mail, I was really busy in my 3d cad, and Adobe Software, on windows , also, I did get VMware Workstation latest installed, also an upgrade I did from 5.0 which works really good on ubuntu, however I know that XGL might help a bit :P
[11:18] <River> bruenig: thanks attempting to follow those
[11:18] <Subhuman> XrekcaH, the idea of a "plug in" is that it goes in AFTER the install.
[11:18] <MadsP> ok, brb
[11:18] <Lichte> i'm trying to install from the livecd......I can't understand this horrific disk partitioner.....are there any docs for this thing ?
[11:19] <C|int> and also btw, its a sucker for my wireless, but I'f I have too, I am going replace the mini pci, wireless broadcom, with atheros probably :P
[11:19] <Subhuman> C|int, what graphics card does it have?
[11:19] <Subhuman> C|int, you can use broadcom cards
[11:19] <kfasheldon> Hi please help, my pc has two hd's, unbuntu boots from slave on ide 0 and the master is an old ntfs drive (no windows on it), I have moved the files I needed from the master and now wish to format it, my question is will the system still boot or will formating remove mbr/boot record from the first drive and thus prevent grub loading linux from drive 2
[11:19] <C|int> I could help users out, with replacements on laptops .. been working hard lately ,  in the IT :)
[11:19] <rsteele> hello
[11:19] <C|int> hey Subhuman, long time no see
[11:19] <Subhuman> C|int, you just have to get the firmware for it, ive done it on two of my machines
[11:19] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: there's no arrows or boxes?
[11:19] <C|int> doesn't work bud
[11:19] <raxip> Hi
[11:20] <C|int> Acer needs a sit down.. scoldin meetin :-)
[11:20] <Subhuman> C|int, did for me, did the md5 fail? cuz i have a working link for one.
[11:20] <C|int> something, with the bcm45xxx or something,
[11:20] <Lichte> can I use this disk partitioner to setup my own partition scheme ??
[11:20] <Hajuu> Hey guys! Anyone know if its possible to manually unlock my cdrom? Having some issues with it.
[11:20] <Subhuman> C|int, yes same as mine
[11:20] <C|int> might be hardware problem for me you think eh
[11:20] <stefg> Lichte: Quite understandable... Id prefer a.) using the text-mode installer (aka 'alternate'-CD) b.) doing the partitoning before the actual install and only tell the installer how to use the already partioned disk
[11:21] <bigfoot1> how do i tar all files in a folder (via terminal)?
[11:21] <C|int> wireless works great though, has to be , linux system, somethin
[11:21] <Subhuman> anyways, what card do you have C|int ?
[11:21] <raxip> I'll think about it
[11:21] <rsteele> that's a secret
[11:21] <C|int> 1 sec, let me do a lscpi
[11:21] <Heretician> How long does it usually take Ubuntu CDs to ship?
[11:21] <bruenig> jimwhimpey what does the screen look like, is it a place that has your windows partitions beside a thing that says /media/sda1 or is it the graphical representatin of your disk with the partitions
[11:21] <r0rz> hi
[11:21] <Subhuman> Heretician, 4-5 weeks?
[11:21] <Heretician> Alrighty
[11:21] <C|int> about , 4 weeks I would say her, maybe 5
[11:21] <Lichte> I agree
[11:21] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: the graphical reprsentation
[11:21] <Lichte> I'd rather use fdisk
[11:21] <timalot> kfasheldon, if delete the partition and create a new one ... it should be o
[11:21] <timalot> k
[11:21] <C|int> they been gettin better,and for some reason, my friend in Australia, got his pretty quick :P
[11:22] <Lichte> how can it not let me set the mount points ???
[11:22] <C|int> brb Subhuman
[11:23] <kfasheldon> timalot> if I delete the hda1 partition it should leave the boot info alone - i want to be sure anyone as I realy do not want to reintsall and dont think there is anything like the old msdos sys /mbr command
[11:23] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, you have to go to the next screen
[11:23] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: the extra partitions aren't on the next screen, just the windows one
[11:23] <C|int> -> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]   802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
[11:23] <bruenig> right
[11:23] <bruenig> under where it says partitons one there should be other boxes
[11:23] <bruenig> that are blank
[11:23] <kfasheldon> timalot> remember I have linux booting from hdb1 so the pc must load grub from where ?
[11:23] <sybec> Can you change the color of the cursor of gnome-terminal to .. say .. "blue" with keeping the rest of the text white?
[11:23] <timalot> kfasheldon, it should leave the mbr alone.... u could create a bootdisk just be safe tho....
[11:24] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: ok, let me check that out
[11:24] <stefg> Lichte: I can't help really much... only used the Live-CD installer once, found that it creates a huge vacuum and got back to text-mode install
[11:24] <C|int> hopefully, I"m getting a nice positition at best buy too Subhuman, hee people laugh when I said, got the Mac OS X for intel :P, and amd, :) but I don't have the SSE3, and SSE2 only , and that take some configuration power :P
[11:24] <kfasheldon> >timalot boot disk idea might work , think I can work that one out done sim b4
[11:24] <timalot> kfasheldon, grub will load from the mbr on hda
[11:24] <Lichte> it won't let me setup the mount points it seems
[11:25] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: just boxes
[11:25] <Lichte> am i missing something ?
[11:25] <C|int> having the SSE3 more easier for the install, and no passing of SSE2 to enable, which I couldn't find out how to do. :P
[11:25] <jimwhimpey> bruenig:  sorry, I mean, there's no boxes
[11:25] <kfasheldon> timalot> and changing the patition should not effect mbr correct - can I just format partition from disks in admin
[11:25] <bruenig> On the top it lists your windows partitions yes?
[11:25] <Subhuman> C|int, what card do you have then? is it ati or nv? cuz if itz nv > 4200 then your good to go with XGL
[11:25] <bruenig> and it has its mount point?
[11:25] <C|int> thanks Subhuman btw, 1 thing I can defanately help out, is the VMware Workstation INstalls, on ubuntu, if anyone needs my help, or wine, or Cedega, etc :)
[11:25] <RShadow> anybody else suddently experince firefox segfaulting on startup all the time?
[11:25] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: yep
[11:26] <Subhuman> ati is slighty diff but basically anything that the drivers support
[11:26] <C|int> oh... 915 gml or something, its integrated,, still hope I can have it
[11:26] <timalot> kfasheldon, thats right if u delete hda1 and create a new partition and format it, it should not delete the mbr...
[11:26] <C|int> but I do have my workstatin, which has nvidia :-)
[11:26] <bruenig> below where it says "Partition One blah blah blah" there should be a little 'box' that looks identical to it but is blank
[11:26] <Subhuman> C|int, the intel 915 gma
[11:26] <bruenig> click on that
[11:26] <kfasheldon> timalot> thanks i'll go for it !!
[11:26] <timalot> kfasheldon, i use fdisk
[11:26] <C|int> yea pretty sure :P
[11:26] <timalot> kfasheldon, i dont know about disk admin
[11:27] <Subhuman> C|int, i THINK the onboard intels work, no harm in trying, best asking at #ubuntu-xgl tho to be 100% sure
[11:27] <C|int> wish I had 1 of those hooked up systems, with 256 mb dedicated video laptops :P
[11:27] <Subhuman> those guys will kni
[11:27] <Lichte> what is this thing called ?
[11:27] <C|int> something you have to do, with enabling it after instal right ?
[11:27] <timalot> kfasheldon, wait
[11:27] <timalot> kfasheldon, just run grub-install after doing the partitioning to make sure
[11:27] <Lichte> it seems to be barfing on the fact that I have another linux on another HD in the system
[11:27] <C|int> Clint is my name btw, but ya know, have to use | , because I didnt' want to use, -
[11:27] <jason_> any body know why 'gksu -a' dosn't always ask for a password
[11:28] <C|int> hey Lichte, whats up
[11:28] <C|int> I'm a Systems Engineer, if that helps, :)
[11:28] <tony_> Hi all! can anyone tell me a simple editor with autocompletion for c++ - I am trying (g)vim but i cant seem to find a c++ dictionary/wordlist - any tips?
[11:28] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: crap, I did that and the installer crash
[11:28] <stefg> Lichte: don't trust any automatic partioning... it'll make a mess
[11:28] <jimwhimpey> crashed**
[11:28] <C|int> well, still going to college for it, but, recently commercial I was part of, been on air, and hey Subhuman, check out this work, if you guys don't mind
[11:28] <AlexC> Hey
[11:28] <Lichte> C|int: I can't get my disks partitioned
[11:28] <C|int> ->   http://www.myspace.com/clintsnet
[11:29] <bruenig> I am getting tired, You get the idea, click that change the partition number and on the left select the appropriate mount point
[11:29] <bruenig> bye all
[11:29] <Lichte> C|int: I can't get it to let me set the mount points
[11:29] <osfameron> eeek!  my external HD has suddenly decided it's a Readonly filesystem
[11:29] <osfameron> wtf?
[11:29] <Subhuman> C|int, i dont have myspace dude.
[11:29] <sri_> it is possible to get the i/p &mac address of the person who is messaging to me???(or)mail to me?How can i trace it?
[11:29] <kfasheldon> timalot> thanks, noticed that something was needed when i just looked at gnome disk part, the boot flag goes missing when i set up the new part, so i escaped grub install should work thats what i was looking for cheers
[11:29] <adi> caut cazare
[11:29] <jason_> any body know why 'gksu -a' dosn't always ask for a password
[11:30] <Subhuman> sri_, send them a file and netstat it
[11:30] <Lichte> I don't want it to do it automatically
[11:30] <C|int> well, hee I"m engineering an IT site with Adobe Macromedia Studio 8 .. *shades on* :-)
[11:30] <Subhuman> jason_, if you use sudo , 15 mins after it wont ask for a password.
[11:30] <pvh> well, my /whois shows the IP address
[11:30] <sri_> Subhuman, sorry i did nt get u
[11:30] <jason_> Subhuman, yeah i know but i 'want' it to
[11:30] <Subhuman> sri_, do you mean in IRC?
[11:30] <stefg> jason_: it remembers that you authenticated less than 10 (?) minutes ago
[11:30] <sri_> Subhuman, what is netstart ?
[11:30] <C|int> reason being, why I put ... VMware Workstation 5.5 on linux :-)
[11:30] <tony_> jason_, maybe cause it assumes the password in one session?
[11:30] <Subhuman> sri_, is this in IRC?
[11:31] <sri_> Samus_Aran, ya
[11:31] <sri_> Subhuman, or in the messenger
[11:31] <osfameron> how do I make my external HD not readonly?
[11:31] <Subhuman> sri_, if it is jus do /WHOIS USERNAME where username is the guy messaging you
[11:31] <osfameron> (as it seems to have decided to start being readonly as of this morning)
[11:31] <jason_> SO how do i force it(gksu) to ask
[11:31] <stefg> osfameron: did you fsck it recently?
[11:31] <C|int> thats just something I joined, because my best friend on myspace, I actually part of a secure peer to peer client, programmed in Delphi, and been apart of it for 3 years, or maybe more, were working on , Voice Over Internet Protocol, for the client, multimedia broadcasting, and so much more
[11:31] <sri_> Subhuman, in gaim also..?
[11:31] <Subhuman> jason_, look in man sudo
[11:31] <Lichte> why all these super complex gui tools to replace a simple fdisk ??
[11:31] <Subhuman> itz in a config file
[11:31] <osfameron> stefg: nope, don't even know what that does
[11:32] <telmich> hoi!
[11:32] <telmich> how can I install libpng3 on standard ubuntu?
[11:32] <stefg> osfameron: what filesystem does teh external hd use?
[11:32] <telmich> it offers libpng12-0, but an application needs libpng.so.3
[11:32] <C|int> hey Subhuman,, I'm going get Counter STrike Source on ubuntu :P
[11:32] <C|int> ;)
[11:32] <someusernoob> osfameron, what does the mount lint in fstab tells you? gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:33] <someusernoob> osfameron lint = line * typo
[11:33] <C|int> I recently didn't knw, how much of online gaming, fps, had effect on a person.. it nice take some fustration out sometime for fun, :-)
[11:33] <Subhuman> sri_, in gaim, send them a file, then do like a "netstat | less" and one of the "established" will be the user
[11:33] <osfameron> stefg: vfat
[11:33] <C|int> hey Lichte, what ubuntu build are you on.
[11:33] <stefg> osfameron: and it is mounted as /dev/sda1 ?
[11:34] <C|int> and you say your having problems.. with partitions mounting, ... automounting.. etc?
[11:34] <osfameron> stefg: yeah, seems to be
[11:34] <osfameron> someusernoob: nothing in /etc/fstab about it
[11:34] <tripppy> ive got a RTL8029 chipset NIC, ubuntu can't find it.
[11:34] <osfameron> but `mount` on its own says /dev/sda1 on /media/LACIE type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[11:34] <tripppy> whats the modprobe command?
[11:34] <someusernoob> osfameron: sudo aptitude install pmount
[11:34] <Lichte> i can't believe this
[11:34] <C|int> whats up
[11:35] <stefg> osfameron: so i suspect there are problems with the filesystem. For safety reasons it's mounted readonly... you could check 'dmesg' if it contaims hints about that
[11:35] <Lichte> it won't let me set the mount point for my install HD, but it's forcing me to set mount points on my sapre HD!
[11:35] <C|int> Lichte: , don't trip bud, I had a really difficult time, figuring out how to configure vmware workstation, and I'm an IT Systems Engineer in making, independant , Developer hee
[11:35] <osfameron> ooo, dmesg | grep sda1 gives me 3 x FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sda1)
[11:35] <stefg> see what i mean :-)
[11:36] <osfameron> that's bad then?
[11:36] <C|int> linux, and open source period can take some patience at time, and thats the fun part about somethings sometimes, is challenging yourself, to defeat the odds.. been linux user for 2004,a nd I still work with windows as well :-)
[11:36] <stefg> no, you have a dual boot system?
[11:36] <Lichte> C|int: I've been using linux since '92, I've never seen anything like this partitioner
[11:37] <C|int> ah.. I see
[11:37] <C|int> the gparted?
[11:37] <osfameron> right, fsck it is then
[11:37] <C|int> I use and manage with Acronis Disk director Suite.. Lichte
[11:37] <C|int> was a big step back in 2004, from using Symantec Partition Magic, to paragon Software, and then Acronis :-)
[11:38] <ubuntu> hello
[11:38] <Lichte> C|int: how do I bypass this to install this distro ??
[11:38] <stefg> osfameron: umount /d3ev/sda1 && fsck -t vfat /dev/sda1
[11:38] <ubuntu> this is a check
[11:38] <stefg> osfameron: umount /dev/sda1 && fsck -t vfat /dev/sda1
[11:38] <C|int> what are you trying to install
[11:38] <Lichte> C|int: is this the only install method from the livecd ?
[11:38] <C|int> and most time, I'm using custom install Lichte, and not live cd, :)
[11:39] <C|int> nope
[11:39] <timalot> Lichte, what kernel version was it back in '92?
[11:39] <C|int> you can use the alternative cd
[11:39] <Lichte> timalot: iirc, it was .98pl8
[11:39] <Lichte> or was it pl12
[11:39] <Subhuman> timalot, like not even version 1.
[11:39] <timalot> Lichte, damn
[11:39] <C|int> that give you alot more better options, especially for partitioning, and alow more power install, thats just my opinion
[11:39] <osfameron> gah, it claims to be too busy to be unmounted
[11:40] <stefg> osfameron: then close all windows and shells which might access it
[11:40] <Subhuman> C|int, the alt. install CD only allows you to install grub in an alternative location, apart from that it is basicaly identical to the live install.
[11:40] <C|int> Lichte: , I manage alot of systems, even was working with getting Mac OS X x86 , on my acer laptop, but I didn't pass some SSE2 enable option, during install, and it hanged after the apple logo, then went blue, then nothing :P
[11:40] <Subhuman> C|int, i know as i have done full installs with both, and the server.
[11:40] <Lichte> so how do I install ubuntu ?
[11:41] <C|int> well,  Subhumanm, I use Acronis Disk Director Suite, because I run more than 3 operating systems , on 1 system alone, which I could install to multiple hard drives etc..
[11:41] <stefg> ise the alternate CD
[11:41] <Lichte> I can't get past this partitioner unless I let it do auto
[11:41] <stefg> *use
[11:41] <Subhuman> Lichte, use the alternative isntall CD.
[11:41] <osfameron> stefg: did that, still claims it's busy
[11:41] <C|int> OS SElector, very nice :-)
[11:41] <osfameron> nothing in lsof
[11:41] <Lichte> Subhuman: I don't have a cdburner
[11:41] <k2> what do you see at "linux:8002"?
[11:41] <Subhuman> C|int, ive ran 5-6 OS's on one machine, and the live partitioner is better.
[11:41] <Lichte> Subhuman: it's either this or nothing
[11:41] <binfalse> I'll think about it
[11:41] <stefg> osfameron: hmmm... ok, then you're in for a reboot in recovery mode
[11:41] <C|int> I"m trying to find nice deal on.. SCO UnixWare 7.1.4.. dang ebay was charging over 1 grand :P
[11:41] <Subhuman> Lichte, well why does it lock up?
[11:41] <Lichte> Subhuman: it doesn't
[11:42] <Lichte> Subhuman: it won't let me set a mountpoint
[11:42] <sri_> prudhvi, hi
[11:42] <C|int> well Subhuman, thats good, good we don't limit are vision bud, we can work together , if you want hee :P
[11:42] <sri_> prudhvi, in gaim, send them a file, then do like a "netstat | less" and one of the "established" will be the user
[11:42] <osfameron> stefg: oh, ok.  can I get to that with a shutdown incantation?
[11:42] <Subhuman> Lichte, you selected "manually edit partiton table" yes?
[11:42] <C|int> if you want ... I'm busy alot though, but be good have open source aqaintance :)
[11:42] <Lichte> Subhuman: yes
[11:43] <Lichte> Subhuman: and then this horrific graphical app pops up
[11:43] <Subhuman> Lichte, and does it give you an error when you set it?
[11:43] <Subhuman> Lichte, yes it's gparted.
[11:43] <Lichte> Subhuman: nope
[11:43] <C|int> I got to get that wireless, and xgl going, then I be smilin.. Sub :-)
[11:43] <stefg> osfameron: not sure... but the grub boot menu (press [ESC]  to acces it) will offer that option
[11:43] <Lichte> this is the worst thing I've ever seen
[11:43] <Subhuman> C|int, ive done both, look on the ubuntu forums
[11:44] <telmich> which ubuntu release is what state (like testing, experimental, ...) and where can I read about it?
[11:44] <Flannel> telmich: they're all stable.
[11:44] <C|int> I was down, because I had installed ubuntu on my buds laptop sub, automatic wireless detectino hee... lucky Ahteros people, but I probably if I need to, just take out my wireless mini pci, and replace with compatible built in .. wireless lan hee :)
[11:44] <Subhuman> telmich, dapper is current, edgy is unstable groundhog is experimental.
[11:44] <osfameron> stefg: ah, I unplugged and replugged, it's now called sdb1 and it's happy to fsck itself
[11:44] <Flannel> telmich: well, edgy isn't stable yet.  But each "release" (once it gets it's numbers), is stable.
[11:44] <telmich> Flannel: the problem is, I need libpng.so.3, which is not in my currently installed ubuntu
[11:44] <osfameron> except it's asking which FAT I want, the first or the second...
[11:44] <telmich> Flannel: ok
[11:44] <Subhuman> C|int, you can do it with a broadcom.
[11:44] <stefg> smart *ss :-) bingo!
[11:44] <Lichte> it only wants to set mount points on hdb, not hda
[11:45] <tony_> Hi all! can anyone tell me a simple editor with autocompletionand how to get it to work for c++?
[11:45] <Lichte> and I'm installing to hdaa
[11:45] <Lichte> hda
[11:45] <Lichte> I have Gentoo no hdb
[11:45] <topa_> any ubuntu-ppc64 folk here ?
[11:45] <Subhuman> Lichte, take out hdb for the install then.
[11:45] <Lichte> s/no/on
[11:45] <Lichte> no way
[11:45] <C|int> well.. what you recommend I do right now :P, because I could never get the dang sucker working with ndiswrapper.. antho someting , he was helping me on breezy, we actually got somewhere, but then I did a dist-upgrade and lost all settings :P
[11:45] <Subhuman> and then just instal, put the hdd back, then redo grub.
[11:45] <Flannel> telmich: you can search to see if it'll be in edgy: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:45] <topa_> I'm not able to use ubuntu-server on IBM's OpenServer
[11:45] <Subhuman> Lichte, why not?
[11:45] <Lichte> I'll just build a new gentoo box on hda
[11:45] <telmich> Flannel: ok
[11:45] <r0rz> tony_ : vim
[11:45] <Subhuman> Lichte, your only taking it out for the install, so your forcing it to use hda
[11:46] <C|int> lol Lichte
[11:46] <Flannel> telmich: er.  libpng3 is in dapper
[11:46] <siimo> is it possible to get 1440x900 resolution in ubuntu ? with ati drivers
[11:46] <C|int> darn gentoo, wasn't compatible with my acer :P
[11:46] <telmich> huch!
[11:46] <telmich> Flannel: I am somehow blind
[11:46] <Flannel> telmich: it's in universe
[11:46] <telmich> Flannel: or other way: apt-cache search did not show it
[11:46] <telmich> ahhh
[11:46] <C|int> I just need to study, Understanding the linux kernel, heck, configuring drivers, writing my own, hee :)
[11:46] <telmich> universe is not in sources.list
[11:46] <Flannel> not by default.  universe is community supported
[11:46] <telmich> Flannel: gracias
[11:47] <Subhuman> siimo, yes. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" or if you got an intel then itz "sudo apt-get install 915resolution"
[11:47] <tony_> r0rz, Im trying to get dictionary files for c++ to work. do you know where i could find one for vim? and how to get it to work?
[11:47] <Flannel> !tell telmich about repositories
[11:47] <siimo> Subhuman: i have a ati radeon 9250 not intel
[11:47] <prudhvi> sri_, why do you want to know his IP ?
[11:47] <telmich> Flannel: thanks again
[11:47] <r0rz> weel I should check the main vim website, tony
[11:47] <tony_> r0rz, right now i try crlk-k but i just get a beep
[11:48] <r0rz> or you could join the #vim channel
[11:48] <r0rz> here on freenode
[11:48] <sri_> prudhvi, to know from where he is giving this mess..
[11:48] <Lichte> oh well. later all
[11:48] <tony_> r0rz, i tried that :) i found a quite helpful faq http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/C-editing-with-VIM-HOWTO.html but i still cant get my hommade dicionary working :)
[11:49] <r0rz> oh it's homemade
[11:49] <r0rz> anyway I never tried to install a dictionary in vim
[11:49] <Subhuman> siimo, in that case run "sudo nano /etc/X!!/xorg.conf", go down to the bottom, look for where all the resolutuons are speciified, just add "1440x990" into each line
[11:49] <telmich> is there a possibility of letting the user choose their keyboard layout _before_ logging in (graphical login on X)
[11:50] <siimo> Subhuman: cool thanks dude im not ready for it yet because i was asking this before going out to buy a monitor that has that native resolution - just making sure it will work but ill note that down :)
[11:50] <telmich> the problem is, the users here use many different keyboards (swiss german, german, dvorak, qwerty)
[11:50] <Flannel> telmich: during install you mean? or what?
[11:50] <ccooke> telmich: The question for a "default" keyboard layout is asked during installation
[11:50] <ccooke> telmich: after that, you can modify it on a per-user basis.
[11:53] <kakado> telmich, if you mean a terminal without X, then loadkeys [country code]