[07:30] <genkgo1> ddstreet: I failed to get AddPrefixRoute=false working. I added the .network filein /etc/systemd/network, with a Match and the [Address] containing this param.
[07:30] <genkgo> but after boot, the prefix routes were still there
[12:29] <ddstreet> genkgo you should check networkctl output to see if your network file is actually what networkd is matching to the interface, if you left netplan-generated network file in /run/systemd/network then that might be used instead of yours
[12:30] <ddstreet> (well, i should say if you left the netplan yaml that creates the networkd .network file for your interface, it may be used instead of your hand-created .network file)
[12:39] <genkgo> ddstreet: it cannot be that my own .network file is additional to what is already defined by netplan?
[12:43] <ddstreet> no
[12:43] <ddstreet> networkd only uses a single .network file
[12:43] <ddstreet> if you want to add on or modify it, you have to use systemd drop-in files, you can't define a second .network file
[12:46] <genkgo> ddstreet: clear, thanks for helping me!
[15:13] <chaslinux> Hey all, trying to autoinstall ubuntu server via PXE. It appears meta-data and user-data are being read, bit it doesn't autoinstall: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/2fmbrDfT5y/ Checked and I can http to meta-data and user-data path. Any ideas? I saw something about an installer ssh key, but it went by too quickly, and using http, not ssh.
[15:16] <chaslinux> My pxelinux.cfg/default looks like this: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/QTZFqHgC4v/
[15:47] <chaslinux> The message I mentioned earlier is ci-info: no authorized ssh keys fingerprints found for user installer/join #kwlug
[15:47] <chaslinux> Ooops, sorry, thought I cleared everything.
[18:38] <_DWD_> Is it possible to configure Ubuntu Server to not update snaps unless explicitly requested?
[18:39] <leftyfb> _DWD_: no. You can only schedule them, but eventually they will get updated
[18:40] <smoser> what happens if you pihole the store ? or something like that.
[18:43] <_DWD_> My friend has asked me this question, and I'm intrigued.  The temporary solution i've given him is to use a cron job to continuously set back the refresh date. Some people have mentioned blocking the url, but that seems a bit ineligant
[18:47] <Ussat> Or you can totally remove snaps
[18:47] <Ussat> Which is what I do in an post install script
[18:51] <sarnold> uninstalling snapd is the easiest way to make sure snaps don't auto-update
[18:51] <Ussat> Yup
[18:51] <sarnold> you could probably also firewall or null route the servers in question
[18:51] <sarnold> in case you wanted to use them, and select the moments you wanted them to be auto-updated
[18:52] <sarnold> or you could buy a brand store and control when packages are updated that way, similar to running a free aptly instance
[18:59] <_DWD_> not so good when the tool they need, maas, is snap only :P
[19:00] <sdeziel> _DWD_: maybe use a snap store proxy? https://docs.ubuntu.com/snap-store-proxy/en/
[19:01] <sdeziel> this lets you ping a given snap revision
[19:01] <sdeziel> s/ping/pin/
[19:02] <stgraber> we have https://discuss.linuxcontainers.org/t/managing-the-lxd-snap/8178 for LXD which likely has a few pointers that can be applied to maas too
[19:05] <leftyfb> stgraber: that looks like it requires upstream to pin a version. If MAAS doesn't have a pinned version, this doesn't work. It also doesn't work for pinning the latest version
[19:06] <_DWD_> thank you, that's very useful info to know :)
[19:07] <stgraber> leftyfb: maas has per-release channels very similar to what LXD does, so you can at least pin on the version, then if that version is the latest one, you're still going to be getting the bugfix updates so may want to setup a maintenance window for those. If you want to completely control things, then an enterprise proxy or preventing snapd from reaching the store is the way to go.
[19:08] <leftyfb> _DWD_: your cron job also won't work indefinitely: "However after 60 days a refresh will occur irrespective of the value of refresh.hold."
[19:11] <_DWD_> right, that's an important thing I didn't know
[19:12] <_DWD_> Why was the decision taken to feature this behaviour and not to allow admins to completely hold all snap updates/
[19:22] <Gorian> okay, I haven't used IRC in a few years - how do I register my name?
[19:23] <Ussat> Its a "feature" of snaps......hence why I remove all snaps etc from alll my installs
[19:24] <Gorian> Ussat: I wish I could. But snap is the "canonical" way to install maas afaik. The apt packages are just metapackages for the snap
[19:24] <_DWD_> @gorian https://libera.chat/guides/registration
[19:24] <Ussat> eww...sorry to hear that, we dont use MaaS
[19:25] <Gorian> I don't want to, lol. Some developer who knows nothing about systems administration deployed it as a snap before I joined the team
[19:25] <Ussat> Ya I refuse to have anything on my servers that restarts without me knowing / controlling it
[19:25] <Ussat> Gorian , you have my sympathy
[19:26] <Gorian> and maas gets it's little roots in everything - it configures everything to PXE to maas, manages the servers via cloud-init, and requires that it is in charge of DHCP and DNS
[19:26] <_DWD_> now i feel a desperate urge to do a stock-check on what I have running on my server that's snappy
[19:26] <Gorian> it's a bit hard to replace
[19:26] <Gorian> working on it, but it's not simple
[19:26] <Ussat> Ya I hear ya
[19:27] <_DWD_> I'm alright haha I only have the livespatch snap and core/core18


[01:47] <infinity> xnox: It's not noatime, it's ext3 versus ext4, I suspect.  A testsuite that expects high resolution *times is probably broken, IMO.
[08:10] <xnox> infinity: built on sagari just fine =) and i'm going to ignore zsh for another decade if I can =)
[09:02] <bzoltan> Hello release team. I have a problem with a failing  autopkgtests http://paste.ubuntu.com/7762643/ on the online_accounts_ui.tests.test_online_accounts_ui.OnlineAccountsUiTests.test_title.   We cornered the issue and there is an MR https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/clean_tests/+merge/225437 to address this problem. Is there a way to unblock the UITK landing as this failure is more about the flaky
[09:29] <cjwatson> bzoltan: I'd like to see the tests passing first, at which point, well, the easiest thing would be to just land the u-s-s-o-a change ...
[09:30] <bzoltan> cjwatson: that would block the UITK for an other day
[09:31] <cjwatson> I'm more worried about allowing regressions into the archive which will mean that we then lose our guard against other regressions in the same component
[09:31] <cjwatson> Has somebody run the u-s-s-o-a tests in a clean autopkgtest environment?
[09:31] <cjwatson> (with the change above)
[09:31] <bzoltan> cjwatson: I do not know, but I do not think so.
[09:32] <cjwatson> OK, I guess I have to then :-(
[09:32] <bzoltan> cjwatson: thank you
[09:32] <cjwatson> This will take some time
[09:35] <bzoltan> cjwatson: my problem is that the UITK tests cover practically _all_ app tests on _all_ environment ... and we suffer from flaky or badly written tests. elopio and timp are already fixing the tests for dozen of apps, because if I would just wait for the app devs to fix their tests I would never be able to release the UITK. Even now with the whole SDK team fixing other teams tests it takes a week to land the UITK.
[09:38] <cjwatson> Nevertheless, I'm not going to override a failure when I haven't confirmed that the putative fix actually fixes it
[09:39] <cjwatson> Because while I sympathise with what you're describing it *also* describes a component where we have to take care to ensure it doesn't genuinely regress
[09:41] <bzoltan> cjwatson: Your point is valid. If I were you most probably I would make the same call. Maybe it is just not realistic to expect daily UITK release. We better be careful with a component what is so broadly used.
[09:42] <bzoltan> cjwatson:  I think I will take the autopkg tests on the UITK test plan. Is this guide valid : http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html#executing-the-test ?
[09:45] <ginggs> Hi, nvidia-graphics-drivers Trusty SRU (LP: #1247736) has been sitting in unapproved for a month.  Is anything needed?
[09:48] <cjwatson> bzoltan: I believe so, though I haven't used the cloud-image-based execution mode as yet myself (there are more lightweight but less accurate versions); trying that for the first time now
[09:48] <cjwatson> argh, urllib.ContentTooShortError: retrieval incomplete: got only 202031681 out of 260178432 bytes
[09:49] <cjwatson> Maybe that was a bad time to upgrade squid
[13:02] <Saviq> cjwatson, hey, apparently http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts missed the new needed dep of ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot for autopkgtests
[13:02] <Saviq> cjwatson, could you please do a direct upload with that added?
[13:08] <Laney> Saviq: I'll test/upload that
[13:09] <bzoltan> Laney: thank you for that
[13:09] <Saviq> Laney, thanks
[13:09] <Laney> sure
[13:20] <Laney> yeah that passes
[13:30] <Mirv> excellent
[13:38] <bzoltan> Laney: cool
[13:39] <Laney> they asked me to increase the upstream version of ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[13:39] <Laney> so give me a few minutes to upload this and then version the test-dep
[16:01] <ginggs> Anyone in SRU team able to look at nvidia-graphics-drivers Trusty SRU (LP: 1247736) please?  It has been sitting in 'unapproved' for some time.
[16:15] <psivaa> infinity: cjwatson: Precise d-i installer throws 'no packages matching running kernel 3.11.0-23-generic in archive'. this transient mismatching kernel version issue?
[16:15] <psivaa> s/this/is this/
[16:29] <infinity> psivaa: Erm, it shouldn't.
[16:30] <infinity>  linux-image-3.11.0-23-generic | 3.11.0-23.40~precise1 | precise-updates  | amd64, armhf, i386
[16:31] <infinity> psivaa: Wait, is this a netinst, or an ISO?
[16:31] <psivaa> infinity: this is the iso
[16:31] <infinity> psivaa: Ahh, kay, CDs might be mismatched right now.
[16:31] <psivaa> infinity: ack, thanks
[16:31] <infinity> psivaa: And in need of s/saucy/trusty/ and other bits while we prep for the point release.
[16:32] <infinity> psivaa: I should go mangle some seeds to resolve that.
[16:32] <psivaa> infinity: ack
[16:32] <psivaa> infinity: wasn't urgent. just thought of informing :)
[16:33] <infinity> psivaa: Yeah.  The ISOs will probably be a mess for the next week or so while we sort out .5
[16:33] <infinity> psivaa: Should be a bit more testable (and on trusty's HWE stack) by next week, I hope.
[16:33] <psivaa> infinity: ack, will check by then.
[17:42] <bdmurray> Is there any way to SRU verify bug 1233185 on porter-armhf? I'd need to install the package from -proposed.
[19:34] <doko> bdmurray, -proposed should be enabled on the porter boxes
[19:36] <bdmurray> doko: it wasn't when I looked
[19:37] <doko> hmm, well, makes sense for stable releases
[19:37] <doko> maybe we need chroots with proposed enabled for stable releases too
[19:37] <doko> anyway, semi finale now ...  schlaaaaaaaaaaaaaand!
[19:51] <slangasek> bdmurray: have you worked around the SRU verification?  Maybe running gdb under qemu-user in a chroot?


[08:12] <dholbach> good morning
[08:40] <Rservices> Um hello Ubuntu I was wondering when your Ubuntu phone will be in Canada id love to buy it myself and I think you would sell really well out here
[08:40] <popey> Rservices: hi, I think the north american phone announcement will come in some months
[08:42] <Rservices> okay thanks I tried the nexus 5 port witch looks nice and all but its a dead project I cant wait till its out
[08:42] <Rservices> the actual ubuntu phone
[08:43] <popey> Me too! :)
[08:44] <Rservices> I recognize you let me guess Cupoflinux Mumble ?
[08:44] <Rservices> lol
[08:47] <popey> yeah, I've lurked there
[08:48] <popey> among other mumble servers ㋛
[08:48] <Rservices> haha do you recognize the name Coolmark1995 at all?
[08:51] <popey> yes
[08:51] <popey> hi :)
[08:51] <Rservices> Hey lol
[08:51] <Rservices> I kinda choose my Website business name for some reason lol
[08:51] <Rservices> Hey :p
[08:56] <Rservices> Right now im fighting with linuxmint lol
[09:33] <Rservices> oh by the way Popey Love the last Live show for Ubuntu
[09:33] <Rservices> just finished watching
[10:47] <master> hi


[13:20] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:53] <nigelb> hi, does anyone know how to get in touch with randal?
[16:10] <dscassel> nigelb: he's in #ubuntu-classroom now. :)
[16:11] <dscassel> (randall ross, I'm assuming)
[16:11] <dscassel> Speaking of which, Ubuntu Community Week is on now in #ubuntu-classroom (and on Lernid)...
[16:24] <nigelb> dscassel: He wasn't around then, which is why I went looking :)
[16:25] <dscassel> Looks like he made it on time. :)
[16:25] <dscassel> He doesn't really hang out on IRC much that I can tell...
[16:48] <nigelb> ah :)
[17:15] <locodir-user> hello
[17:17] <locodir-user> anyone there?
[17:19] <BluesKaj> yup
[17:41] <dscassel> I'm guessing locodir-users are here as a result of Ubuntu Community Week....


[02:10] <arand> user Xalt0r is being generally obnoxious in #ubuntu.
[02:17] <arand> mneptok: thank you.
[02:17] <mneptok> np
[05:51] <jdong> *glares at his irssi.conf for not auto-identifying anymore*
[06:10] <Myrtti> checking
[08:56] <Myrtti> !ping
[09:15] <jussi01> !no, ping is <reply>pong!
[13:36] <seeker^> Do I buy a dell 2409w monitor, or a samsung 2443?
[13:39] <ikonia> dell
[13:40] <ikonia> fact
[13:40] <seeker^> Have you looked at the two?
[13:45] <ikonia> I have looked and purchased the dell many times
[13:47] <ikonia> it's super cool
[13:47] <Myrtti> samsung
[13:47] <Myrtti> unless you call the salespeople directly and haggle the price down
[13:49] <seeker^> I think you get more screen area with the samsung
[13:50] <seeker^> I can get the dell for £190, the samsung for £250
[13:54] <jussi01> seriously call dell and haggle... especially if you need something else from there.
[13:54] <jussi01> <-- ex dell sales person
[13:55] <seeker^> No, don't need anything else from there
[13:56] <seeker^> I currently have a 20" ultrasharp dell monitor but I want a bigger one
[13:57] <seeker^> But can't really afford £450 for the 24" ultrasharp
[13:58] <ikonia> ahhh it's not the ultrasharp
[13:59] <ikonia> I thought it was
[13:59] <ikonia> thy are the ones I have
[13:59] <ikonia> hence my enthusiasm
[13:59] <seeker^> The dell is 16:9, the samsung is 16:10
[14:02] <seeker^> My old monitor is 16:10, so if I swap to a 24" 16:10, I gain quite a bit of width, but almost no height
[14:02] <seeker^> Whereas with the samsung, I would get slightly more width and height
[14:07] <ikonia> sounds like the samsung is worth a punt if you can afford the extra $$$
[14:07] <seeker^> I think I'm going with the samsung
[14:09] <Myrtti> oh christ
[14:09] <Myrtti> have you checked the mnaines backlog in #u?
[14:14] <seeker^> £242 from ebuyer :)
[14:20] <ikonia> Myrtti: yes, and I'm not happy with it, but wasnt going to say anything in here, just talk to him
[15:27] <Pricey> ikonia: Any reasonable response?
[15:27] <ikonia> Pricey: waiting for him to come on line
[15:28] <ikonia> didn't want to bring him in here as he always causes an issue
[15:31] <ikonia> ooh he's o nline now
[15:31] <ikonia> I assume that's why you prodded, than kyou
[15:32] <ikonia> I got past his botsentry anti-spam pm
[15:32] <ikonia> lets see if he responds
[15:32] <Pricey> are bots much of a problem here?
[15:33] <ikonia> no no
[15:33] <ikonia> he's just got bot sentry on his account so if you pm him it puts you on ignore
[15:33] <ikonia> but as long as you answer the question it allows you through
[15:37] <ikonia> reasonable response so far
[15:42] <ikonia> reasonable reponse, assures will do better
[15:47] <Myrtti> !away > ericm-Zzz
[16:55] <niko> warn on BoumBoum user ( realname : Doris )
[17:11] <Myrtti> she's muted on #ubuntu already
[17:37] <Amaranth> jussi01: you took the funny out of my factoids :/
[17:42] <Pici> Amaranth: They were getting old, think of something new and funny then.
[17:43] <Amaranth> how do you make a factoid put in the person's nick?
[17:43] <Amaranth> %u?
[17:44] <Amaranth> @login
[17:44] <Amaranth> !ubottu
[17:44] <Amaranth> hmm, I guess you can't
[18:01]  * genii sips
[18:40] <Pici> !bot > pshr_
[22:10] <Myrtti> watch out for cryptopsy or whatever
[22:10] <Myrtti> he seems to have a bad day and not taking advice too well
[22:17] <Myrtti> he's also giving google it as the answer way too much to my liking
[22:20] <Myrtti> I hope someone is watching him
[22:20] <Myrtti> I'm getting too tired for this
[22:27] <Myrtti> right. good night
[22:44] <Myrtti> PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
[22:48] <Myrtti> fine - I'm really going to bed now
[22:51] <Myrtti> Amaranth: if you're not busy, please look after him for a while in #ubuntu, I'm worried about him
[22:52] <Myrtti> *poof*
[22:52] <jpds> Watching.
[22:53] <Amaranth> phew, I was really hoping to not have to join #ubuntu right now
[22:53] <Amaranth> I'm multitasking between fixing a compiz bug, schooling everyone in #ubuntu-offtopic, and reading a book :P
[22:53] <guntbert> HI, can someone have a quiet chat with cryptosy in #ubuntu please?
[22:54] <jpds> guntbert: We're watching him.
[22:54] <guntbert> cryptopsy it is
[22:54] <guntbert> ok thx
[22:58] <jpds> FFS.
[22:58] <jpds> @login
[23:11] <hfz> hi
[23:16] <Pici> bye


 ok. I thought Pidgin was just a 'middle man' for other progams, but I will have a look. (Google) Hangouts? I have chosen to be google free, so I will pass on that one. Does Pidgin work on os x/ios as well so I can communicate with friends and family?
[05:16] <madLyfe> hmm my primary monitors screen went black and my panels are gone on my other two monitors.
[05:16] <madLyfe> kubuntu. not sure what to do
[05:17] <madLyfe> any way to reload the plasma or something like that?
[05:17] <madLyfe> will that kill my session?
[05:21] <krytarik> madLyfe: https://askubuntu.com/questions/481329/can-i-restart-the-kde-plasma-desktop-without-logging-out
[05:22] <madLyfe> tyvm, that worked, krytarik.
[05:58] <madLyfe> what is kubuntus default app equivalent to paint?
[06:01] <kalikatz> im new to kubuntu, and i dont see a paint app.  i have used gimp and it works well, in ubuntu.
[06:02] <diogenes_> madLyfe, choose
[06:02] <diogenes_> https://www.alltechbuzz.net/7-best-free-ms-paint-alternatives-windows-linux-mac/
[06:02] <madLyfe> it doesnt come with one?
[06:04] <hateball> Hmmm, it probably doesnt
[06:04] <hateball> I dont remember if Karbon is installed by default but it's not really equivalent to Microsoft Paint
[06:05] <hateball> GIMP works just as well under KDE Plasma however, so you are free to install that. Or something like Krita
[06:07] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:07] <kalikatz> good evening
[07:00] <acheronuk> kalikatz hateball: kolourpaint is very like mspaint
[07:03] <kalikatz> m$soft? lol.  actually ive never used it
[07:05] <kalikatz> i liked gimp as i knew photoshop pretty well
 @madLyfe, https://krita.org/en/homepage/
[09:34] <RaphGroHS> where does plasma-vault store its containers?
[09:53] <acheronuk> RaphGroHS: currently in ~/.local/share/plasma-vault/
[09:57] <RaphGroHS> acheronuk: well, that is contraproductive if whole $home is inside another cryptsetup container …
[09:59]  * RaphGroHS needs to use then --exclude '.local' --exclude '.cache'
[10:12] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:18] <acheronuk> RaphGroHS: that is just the default. you can change the location when you set up a vault
[12:55] <RaphGroHS> acheronuk: well, I decided to encrypt the whole home partition
[12:55] <RaphGroHS> it takes too much time to think about sensitive data
[12:55] <RaphGroHS> just encrypt $everything, done. :)
[13:47] <mojo_risin> Hi there. My wired ethernet connection doesn't appear on my available connections, although it's on ifconfig: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S9SQxJvNFY/
[13:48] <mojo_risin> Any help on how to make it available on KDE NM?
[13:52] <genii> You seem to have an interesting mix of pre-predictable network interface names like eth1,wlan1 and the now more usual ones like enx0023545c9f68, enx0050b6c2b431
[13:53] <mojo_risin> yeah, legacy stuff probably...
[13:56] <mojo_risin> that can be confusing NM?
[13:59] <genii> Probably better to have everything using the new system, and then tell netplan to use networkmanager
[13:59] <genii> !netplan
[15:01] <IrcsomeBot1> griphook was added by: griphook
 Hello everybody
 I have Kubuntu 18.04 and somehow I disabled the ability to open my desktop settings by right clicking on the desktop. Does anybody know how I can get this back?
 I want to change my wallpaper and I can't! :(
 @griphook, what do you get in a right click now?
 nothing
 left click opens the applications menu
 @griphook, in ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc … need an entry like
 (Photo, 523x87) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/6DnO05bH/file_9866.jpg
 it's the RightButton part that needs restoring
 then restart plasma
 ahhhh ok
 thank you!
 it's an unfixed KDE bug that you can disable that, and have no way to restore it via GUI
 that makes since
 No wonder I couldn't find any place to restore it lol