[00:24] <calamari> Corvus: when it crashes, you'll then want to issue the gdb command: bt
[00:26] <calamari> Corvus: and pastebin the results
[00:26] <Corvus> Hm. "gdb" started this fancy text, which I understand nothing of. Now the command line starts out as "(gdb)". "run vlc" tells me I need to specify an executable file.
[00:26] <calamari> chiminuhupua just privmsged me and tried to initiate a dcc chat
[00:26] <calamari> ah spam & leave I see lol
[00:26] <calamari> Corvus: gdb vlc
[00:26] <calamari> Corvus: then at gdb prompt: run
[00:26] <Daghdha> Hello, i have some performance issue with ubuntu deleting files. I read xfs4 will help. Is that correct?
[00:26] <Daghdha> And can i convert mycurrent disk withing ubuntu? It's not the OS disk.
[00:26] <Moogs> anyone?
[00:26] <Corvus> Ah, that worked. Thanks.
[00:26] <Corvus> Now I'll just wait for that crash, I suppose...
[00:27] <ResQue> Daghdha: you could use gparted
[00:27] <Daghdha> I use that for backups i think.
[00:28] <ResQue> Daghdha: if you mean change the format of the from say NTFS to EXT3 file format
[00:28] <Daghdha> I have it on a boot DVD. Isit save to convert?
[00:28] <Daghdha> from ext3 to ext4
[00:28] <Moogs> anyone know how to optimize my intel graphics on ubuntu?
[00:28] <ResQue> Daghdha: you will lose the data on the disk, and i done think you use gparted to backup anything
[00:28] <Daghdha> Oh
[00:29] <gstnet> hey, i need some help.. this might not be the most appropriate channel but i am panicking and this one was first one in my list in konversation
[00:29] <Corvus> calamari: Now it froze - I'm presuming this is the point. You said I need another command now?
[00:30] <gstnet> i am getting 50,000 DNS querries per minute to my named server
[00:30] <calamari> Corvus: if you're at the gdb prompt again, enter: bt
[00:30] <gstnet> and querries seem to be asking for only 2 domains.. ripe.net ad gd21,net
[00:31] <gstnet> this is an example query from the log
[00:31] <gstnet> Jul 22 19:17:22.547 info: client <IP_ADDRESS>#53: query: ripe.net IN ANY
[00:31] <gstnet> as there some networking guru who can help me explain this ?
[00:31] <Daghdha> ResQue: Can you confirm deletion of large files in ext4 is faster than in ext3?
[00:31] <Corvus> calamari: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1105687/ <-- This is the information gained.
[00:34] <ResQue> reisi: No i can not
[00:34] <ResQue> Daghdha: no i can not
[00:35] <Daghdha> i see.. i'll take that as a yes then.
[00:35] <Dr_willis> wikipedia page about ext4 may have some comparisons.
[00:35]  * Daghdha proceeeds to move disk into 20th century
[00:37] <Moogs> anyone use compizconfig settings manager
[00:38] <Stealthy> Hey there. I was installing ubuntu on my home box. I was repartitioning one drive. Then the instalation window became fuzzy, but the computer is not frozen, since i can still turn on and off caps lock. Is there any key combintion that can bring back the installation window? I'm installing ubuntustudio 12.4, by the way...
[00:40] <Corvus> calamari: Any news?
[00:40] <VirtualBlackness> Stealthy: try ctrl alt f2 then ctrl alt f7
[00:41] <calamari> Corvus: hold on a min, looking to something
[00:41] <VirtualBlackness> Moogs: It is my understanding the compiz settings manager breaks, or can break unity.
[00:41] <Moogs> anyone use compkiz?
[00:41] <arielsanflo> hello
[00:41] <Corvus> All right.
[00:41] <arielsanflo> help
[00:41] <VirtualBlackness> Moogs: unity 3d = compiz
[00:41] <Fyodorovna> Moogs, many do what is the question about it
[00:41] <Stealthy> thanks virtualblackness!
[00:41] <Moogs> i want to know the best options to select to optimize my laptop (the compizconfig settings manager)
[00:42] <Fyodorovna> Moogs, lots of info on the web for setups with the warnings needed have you lookedd?
[00:42] <Fyodorovna> looked*
[00:42] <calamari> Corvus: I'm wondering if you could also pastebin this one: backtrace full
[00:42] <Moogs> Fyodorovna: i cannot find anything
[00:42] <arielsanflo> as placing juno eclipse 4.2 in Spanish
[00:42] <Moogs> Fyodorovna: lol.
[00:43] <Corvus> So just "backtrace full"?
[00:43] <Stealthy> virtualblackness, it gives me a terminal and then the same "frozen install window" I had earlier. Is there any way I can know if the partioning is over yet? If it' s over yet I guess I can just turn off my computer and start the installation all over again without loosing any data...
[00:43] <L3top> Stealthy: I would exercize rule #1... especially when partitioning. Patience.
[00:44] <Stealthy> thanks l3top. So I guees I better wait, even for a couple hours, right?
[00:44] <Moogs> Fyodorovna: got any ideas? :)
[00:44] <L3top> How big is the drive Stealthy?
[00:44] <cnnx> i did apt-get install gnome how do i switch it when i reboot?
[00:44] <cnnx> *to it
[00:45] <Stealthy> 80 GBs L3top
[00:45] <Corvus> calamari: "backtrace full" provided exactly the same, but with "No symbol table info available." after each line.
[00:45] <L3top> I wouldn't wait anywhere near an hour Stealthy.
[00:45] <calamari> Corvus: ah
[00:45] <Fyodorovna> Moogs, look up cube and ubuntu, compiz is only slightly changed in the last 2or 3 releases.
[00:46] <L3top> Stealthy: if it does not resolve itself in 30 minutes I would go ahead...
[00:46] <Stealthy> thanks a lot l3top, I will follow your advice!
[00:46] <Dr_willis> let the cube slide into obscurity.. death to the cube. :)
[00:46] <Dr_willis> cnnx,  the login screen has a menu to select differnt desktop sessions.
[00:46] <Corvus> Don't be such a square. Be a tesseract, much more fun.
[00:47] <Moogs> Fyodorovna: what does kde compatilibyt o... it makes it faster ??
[00:47]  * L3top had a contract with one of them tesseracts once... them fellers taste like corn.
[00:47] <Fyodorovna> Moogs, I never used kde, not sure compiz is a easy use there.
[00:48] <L3top> Moogs: I am on KDE. I will install it now and tell you.
[00:48] <calamari> Corvus: does this give anything interesting? thread apply all backtrace
[00:51] <Corvus> calamari: Interesting is an understatement, even though I don't understand any of it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1105705/
[00:55] <arielsanflo> hello
[00:55] <arielsanflo> help
[00:55] <arielsanflo> as placing juno eclipse 4.2 in Spanish
[00:56] <L3top> !es | arielsanflo perhaps you will get better help here.
[01:00] <arielsanflo> canal ubuntu 12.10
[01:04] <Krenair> I'm having trouble getting any input from my USB VoIP Cyberphone 615 handset's mic
[01:05] <Krenair> Ubuntu seems to recognise it
[01:05] <Krenair> But there just doesn't seem to be any input coming from the device
[01:05] <Krenair> It works on Windows 7 so the actual hardware is fine
[01:06] <calamari> Corvus: I'm not really finding anything relevant.. you can try opening a new bug report and attaching the console and gdb outputs
[01:06] <Corvus> Okay, I'll do that. Thanks.
[01:06] <calamari> Corvus: my best guess is that the file is corrupt.. but of course that shouldn't cause vlc to crash
[01:07] <calamari> Corvus: you can always try playing it with another program, like mplayer.. it might glitch or fail in the same spot tho
[01:07] <Corvus> Well, Banshee doesn't work at all. I'll poke around a bit, see what I find.
[01:07] <calamari> mplayer plays practically everything
[01:09] <SkippersBoss> !pulseaudio, krenair
[01:09] <SkippersBoss> !pulse, krenair
[01:10] <Krenair> I am using pulseaudio, yes SkippersBoss
[01:11] <SkippersBoss> krenair, does it function in pavu control
[01:11] <SkippersBoss> krenair, whathappens if you disable pulse
[01:11] <Krenair> Presumably I won't be able to hear any music anymore
[01:12] <SkippersBoss> Alsa takes over
[01:12] <SkippersBoss> What i mean is multiple person have independently found out that pulse sometimes doesnot work nice with recording
[01:13] <dellph> hello guys
[01:13] <dellph> :)
[01:13] <Guest41666> The milks gone bad
[01:13] <Krenair> Okay, install pavucontrol.
[01:13] <Krenair> installed*
[01:13] <SkippersBoss> create a file client.conf in ~/.pulse and put in the line autospawn=0
[01:13] <Corvus> I found something - the problem seems to be in the file. A playlist file (m3u, I believe) to be exact. Any known problems with those?
[01:14] <Krenair> It doesn't seem to even know about my USB mic
[01:14] <Krenair> Oh wait no, ignore the above.
[01:14] <SkippersBoss> restart your machine and alsa should be back in control
[01:14] <SkippersBoss> you might need to install alsamixer
[01:16] <ardian> any suggestions on how to get a laptop cooler, how do I stop overheating
[01:17] <Gnea> ardian: turn it off, let it sleep, get a thing to set it on that has fans, run it next to the exhaust of an ac-unit...
[01:18] <ardian> Gnea, that's not a good solution
[01:18] <ardian> 53 C is my laptop temp
[01:18] <Gnea> adjtimex: I just gave 4, beggars can't always be choosers
[01:22] <xchat> anyone help me please
[01:22] <Gnea> !anyone | xchat
[01:22] <xchat> my question mark dont work
[01:23] <xchat> my question mark dont work
[01:27] <L3top> Fyodorovna: compiz... NOT easy use in kde on precise. Confirmed. Was a bit nightmarish actually.
[01:27] <Fyodorovna> L3top, I wondered, what is the DE manager in kde?
[01:28] <mao> I run the command "echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" to free cache manually,but how can I reset /proc/sys/vm/drop_cache to 0
[01:29] <escott> mao, echo 0
[01:29] <mao> escott: echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[01:29] <mao> escott: bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument
[01:29] <escott> mao, i dont know what those parameters do. or what is valid for that value
[01:30] <L3top> I am not sure I can answer that Fyodorovna...
[01:31] <mao> escott: the default value of /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches is 0
[01:31] <escott> mao, but what does 0 mean?
[01:31] <Fyodorovna> L3top, hehe I have never used kde for any length of time, seems nice just never used it.
[01:32] <mao> escott: I don't know,you can see the value in you linux box
[01:33] <user567> #android
[01:35] <escott> mao, so why is it so important to put the value back to 0?
[01:37] <L3top> mao: are you root?
[01:37] <mao> escott: well...I just wonder why I can't put the value back to zero...
[01:37] <mao> L3top: yes,I switch to root
[01:37] <escott> mao, if it doesn't have a meaning...
[01:38] <escott> mao, based on what the values 1-3 do this looks to be an event oriented interface not a value oriented interface
[01:38] <Gnea> hm, wondering why X would suddenly just stop and boot me back to a gdm login...
[01:38] <escott> Gnea, gnome-session crashed
[01:39] <Gnea> escott: thing is, I'm not running gnome
[01:39] <Gnea> but, I will look into it
[01:39] <escott> Gnea, well whatever you are using as a session manager crashed (thats the usual cause) alternately X crashed
[01:40] <Gnea> escott:  8932 ?        Sl     0:00      \_ /usr/lib/gdm/gdm-session-worker
[01:40] <Gnea> dbus also seems to have a problem running on this system
[01:42] <mao> escott: Do you mean that what the value of /proc/sys/vm/drop_cache is meanless, only whe I change the value (or just echo) it works ?
[01:42] <L3top> mao, escott  I believe that null is a default value, for instance at boot, and setting 1, 2 or 3 frees pagecache, dentries and inodes in various combinations. I do not believe you can "set" 0, only the operations are setable. it looks like.
[01:42] <escott> mao, yes.
[01:45] <L3top> mao: out of curiosity... why are you fooling around in there?
[01:48] <mao> L3top: I was confused by "the value", I think "the value" has impact on the performance of system...
[01:49] <L3top> it is an operation more than a set value it would appear. You set it, it does its non-destructive flush. then it does nothing until set again. What is yours set to atm?
[01:51] <L3top> http://www.linuxinsight.com/proc_sys_vm_drop_caches.html  mao
[01:53] <mao> L3top: Just like escott said, it is an event oriented interface, not a value oriented interface...this is the first time i heared this
[01:53] <mao> L3top: thank you, now i understand it
[01:54] <L3top> note "As this is a non-destructive operation, and dirty objects are not freeable, the user should run "sync" first in order to make sure all cached objects are freed."
[01:57]  * L3top didn't see that explanation from escott
[01:57] <rocky> hello
[01:57] <rocky> guys
[01:57] <escott> L3top, no problem. i think we all realized it at the same time
[01:58] <rocky> i have a problem in my ubuntu 12.04, suspend mode doesn't works fine
[01:59] <rocky> when i suspend, then login back, i cannot click inside password window
[01:59] <mao> L3top: escott: Thank you all :)
[01:59] <rocky> then i have to force shutdown and boot again
[01:59] <escott> rocky, otherwise it comes back?
[01:59] <L3top> rocky: does your mouse work? and have you tried the tab key?
[01:59] <rocky> no
[01:59]  * L3top means can you see the cursor move
[02:00] <rocky> no i cannot see cursor move
[02:00] <rocky> when i press cntrl shift f1
[02:00] <rocky> i see continous exceptions flowing
[02:00] <rocky> sorry ctrl alt f1
[02:00] <smithw> Is it usual for a wireless card to experience a severely reduced working range when on Linux than when on Windows? (same computer and same card, Realtek RTL8723AE, using the driver from this thread: http://askubuntu.com/a/165002/64784) Are there settings I can chance to correct this, or should I just wait for a driver update?
[02:01] <escott> rocky, exceptions from what?
[02:02] <rocky> i have to repeat the operations
[02:02] <rocky> and then come back
[02:03] <violinappren> rocky: what is the exact error message you see?
[02:03] <rocky> i am back
[02:03] <rocky> i retried the same things
[02:03] <rocky> but this time suspend worked beautifully
[02:04] <rocky> i don't know what happened it started working in 2nd attempt
[02:04] <escott> rocky, thats us. we are that good
[02:04] <rocky> unless it is related to no. of applications that are opened when i suspend
[02:05] <L3top> smithw: did you compile this from source... and if so can you look at that source for something real quick?
[02:05] <escott> rocky, how is the mouse connected? usb?
[02:05] <smithw> L3top, yes, and sure, what is it?
[02:05] <rocky> escott, it is inbuilt laptop mouse
[02:06] <L3top> in base.c  can you grep HW_BEACON_FILTER
[02:06] <rocky> escott, is hibernate and suspend same in the laptop?
[02:07] <rocky> escott, i meant  same in Ubuntu 12.04
[02:07] <rocky> in my case hibernate is disabled
[02:07] <smithw> L3top, line 320, it's setting a flags parameter in a pointer to a struct ieee80211_hw
[02:08] <escott> rocky, no. hibernate writes to disk and turns off the computer entirely. suspend shifts everything to ram and puts halts the cpu
[02:08] <smithw> L3top, it's a long OR spanning multiple lines
[02:08] <smithw> that's the only ocurrence on the file
[02:08] <rocky> escott, got you
[02:08] <rocky> escott, do you know hibernate is disabled in my Ubuntu 12.04
[02:08] <rocky> escott, do you know why hibernate is disabled in my Ubuntu 12.04
[02:09] <ResQue> could anyone recomend a good opensource replacement for flash player, i really only use the flash player to watch youtube videos or other internet embeded videos
[02:10] <escott> rocky, i never use hibernate so im not sure. possibilities might be encrypted home, or inadequate swap?
[02:10] <Areckx> Having random problems with SSH. It would work SSHing to my iPhone until recently, nothing I have done can explain this, and the only thing I can think of is an update that may conflict? How do I fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1105746/
[02:11] <L3top> This has to do with the power modulation... I wondered if it was related due to some folks comments hacking around it for 3.4 kernel... I believe that until they are proud enough to put it on their website... that is going to be your best bet.
[02:11] <L3top> smithw: ^
[02:11] <Areckx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1105751/
[02:12] <L3top> ResQue: you might try lightspark
[02:12] <smithw> L3top, wait, power modulation was added or correct in the 3.4 kernel?
[02:12] <Spaceghostc2c> Hi. Does Ubuntu server 12.04 come with ssh-agent set up and ready to go?
[02:13] <smithw> *corrected
[02:13] <L3top> line 320 was hashed out to get it to work in 3.4 smithw
[02:13] <rocky> escott, sorry i missed your last response, could send again, it went up
[02:13] <escott> Areckx, why would you sudo ssh? (only reason i can think of is that you are using auth_keys and the private key is in /root/.ssh
[02:13] <escott> rocky, i never use hibernate so im not sure. possibilities might be encrypted home, or inadequate swap?
[02:14] <Areckx> escott::  I don't know, usually it ensures it works
[02:14] <smithw> L3top, oh, I see. Should I try the same on 3.2 and see if it improves the working range? Or might break something beyond fixing?
[02:14] <rocky> escott, i don't have swap disj
[02:14] <rocky> escott, i don't have swap disk
[02:14] <rocky> escott, this may explain it why hibernate is disabled
[02:14] <Spaceghostc2c> I sort of figured that ssh-agent would already be set up on a default installation. I mostly use it for git and ssh while developing.
[02:14] <creese> I'm installing linux on a Macbook with a Broadcomm BCM 4322 (432b) wireless. I extracted the firmware for the b43 module, but still getting 'file not found' errors. Any ideas?
[02:15] <L3top> smithw: I do not expect it would do any damage... I would do it... dont know if it will get better or worse :)
[02:15] <escott> rocky, thats why
[02:15] <Areckx> escott::  either way, I am unable to browse my iphone with usb, for some reason, it worked when I first installed 10.04 but then stopped working for some reason
[02:15] <escott> rocky, there is nowhere to put your ram on disk. so it cant hibernate
[02:15] <Areckx> escott::  so I used SSH and it worked without any problems until about a week ago
[02:15] <rocky> escott, thanks you are genius
[02:16] <smithw> L3top, ok, I'll comment it out and recompile, then. If it gets worse, I'll just uncomment it compile it again. Thanks for your time :)
[02:16] <L3top> !bcm43xx | did you follow this creese?
[02:16] <escott> Areckx, sudo ssh is a weird thing to do, because you (usually) care about the permissions on the remote side not on the local side. why do you care that root@localhost is sending commands to the other machine vs username@localhost. what matters is if root@remotehost is executing the commands or not
[02:16] <ring1> ResQue, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash/#Free_Software_alternatives_to_Adobe.27s_Flash_Player for youtube, you could try https://www.youtube.com/html5
[02:19] <creese> ubottu: I'm having trouble at the modprobe step. will try those suggestions
[02:19] <sourlime> I'm on http://sourceforge.net/projects/xampp/files/XAMPP%20Linux/1.8.0/. What is the difference between xampp-linux-devel-1.8.0.tar.gz	(38.6 MB) and xampp-linux-1.8.0.tar.gz (84.7 MB) ?
[02:20] <creese> ha!
[02:20] <trism> !xampp | sourlime
[02:20] <sourlime> trism: is lamp better than xampp?
[02:21] <sourlime> what's the difference?
[02:21] <sourlime> i'm confused, trism
[02:21] <Spaceghostc2c> sourlime: Six keystrokes.
[02:21] <Spaceghostc2c> One's a development version.
[02:21] <ResQue> ring1: thanks, and yes i am already on the html5 beta nice call there
[02:22] <sourlime> Spaceghostc2c: which is the development version+?
[02:22] <Spaceghostc2c> Guess.
[02:22] <Areckx> escott::  well I am just wanting to see the files on my  jailbroken iphone, it worked flawlessly until about a week ago
[02:22] <ring1> ResQue, you're welcome. i think html5 works fine as of now
[02:22] <sourlime> trism, Spaceghostc2c i just need to test out our wordpress website locally before uploading to the interente
[02:22] <Areckx> escott::  also I just installed libimobiledevice-1.0.7
[02:24] <trism> sourlime: you are free to use xampp if you prefer, but we do not support it here, all the programs (apache, mysql, php, etc) are already in the repository and supported (and will get security updates)
[02:24] <escott> Areckx, well you can't ping it. so do you have the right ip?
[02:24] <Areckx> escott::  yes, it hasn't changed at all and I have double checked 4 times
[02:25] <Areckx> escott::  also how come I can't browse the device with USB anymore? I have ifuse installed and libimobiledevice
[02:25] <Areckx> escott::  10.04 is supposed to support it out of the box, it did for awhile, but after installing packages it stopped working
[02:28] <escott> Areckx, i don't really know. all i know about iProducts is that iDontBuyThem
[02:28] <crashover> hola
[02:29] <rocky> escott, i lost my gnome classic menu at the top pf page, do you know how to bring it back
[02:31] <sourlime> trism: i went to the help.ubuntu page you linked to and installed lamp. now how can i see my wordpress site locally?
[02:31] <escott> rocky, lost it during suspend?
[02:31] <rocky> escott, no no when i customized my Unity interface at login level
[02:31] <rocky> escott, suspend problem is solved all clear
[02:32] <escott> rocky, "login level"? what does that mean? you manipulated things on the tty?
[02:32] <creese> it still won't create my wlan0
[02:33] <rocky> escott, it means when i start my laptop, it asks me to enter password, this is the place
[02:34] <trism> sourlime: we have an older version of wordpress in the repos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WordPress or you can use the install guide on wordpress.com for the latest version
[02:34] <Areckx> escott::  lol good one, but why so much hate for iDevice?
[02:34] <escott> rocky, ok so at the login screen you selected a different session type
[02:34] <escott> Areckx, its the antithesis of free software
[02:34] <rocky> escott, yess
[02:34] <rocky> escott, i customized the session to use cario dock
[02:35] <Areckx> escott::  people seem to hate it, but I personally can't stand using android, and plus, I got my iPhone as a gift
[02:35] <Areckx> escott::  that's why you jailbreak and use cydia
[02:35] <escott> rocky, so what you are seeing is that other session type. what kind of session are you running now, and what kind of session do you want to be running :)
[02:35] <rocky> escott, somehow i deleted the gnome classic menu
[02:35] <trism> sourlime: http://codex.wordpress.org/Installing_WordPress
[02:35] <escott> !classic | rocky
[02:35] <rocky> escott, not sure what keys to press to bring it back
[02:35] <escott> rocky, thats an annoyingly unhelpful factoid these days
[02:35] <escott> !notunity
[02:36] <escott> rocky, ^^^ thats a bit more helpful listing some options
[02:37] <Spaceghostc2c> Why doesn't ubuntu server 12.04 have ssh-agent, keychain, or something comparable installed by default?
[02:37] <escott> rocky, but if you want to be using cairo and gnome-panel. i think all you need to do is install gnome-panel and add it to your cairo session
[02:37] <rocky> escott, gnome panel is already installed
[02:38] <escott> rocky, so try and run it from a terminal window "gnome-panel &"
[02:38] <rocky> escott, i used to have both gnome menu and cario dock in my desktop
[02:38] <rocky> escott, one day i right clicked on gnome menu and deleted it
[02:38] <escott> Spaceghostc2c, it doesnt? im surprised by that
[02:38] <rocky> escott, now don't know to bring it back
[02:39] <escott> rocky, i see. try just running gnome-panel then
[02:40] <rocky> escott, i ran gnome-panel from terminal
[02:40] <rocky> escott, it crashed and is currently preparing crash report
[02:40] <escott> rocky, then you might have to nuke some files in .config
[02:40] <cosmicfires> what's the best tv card or usb thing for ubuntu?
[02:41] <Areckx> sudo mkdir /mnt/iphone
[02:41] <Areckx> oops
[02:41] <FenrirReturns> I just installed the newest version of Ubuntu from the desktop ISO, and periodically in gnome something appears at the top allowing me to enter a command.  For the life of me I can't figure out how to trigger it, it seems random, and my google-fu yields nothing and alt-f2 doesn't do it like it did in older versions.  Any ideas?
[02:42] <Areckx> ifuse /mnt/iphone/
[02:42] <Areckx> bwah
[02:42] <rocky> escott, oh my gosh i see the gnome menu hanging in the middle of desktop
[02:42] <rocky> escott, very small in length
[02:42] <Spaceghostc2c> escott: I just decided to forward my ssh agent.
[02:42] <c2tarun> is thunderbird 14 no more supporting rss feeds?
[02:42] <rocky> escott, it is working now
[02:43] <rocky>  escott when i restart will it come back
[02:43] <rocky> escott, i have to add to startup applications
[02:43] <rocky> escott, i have to add to startup applications?
[02:44] <escott> rocky, maybe? gnome-session-properties
[02:45] <rocky>  escott, i don't see its name in startup applications, generally it helps by showing currently running applications
[02:48] <BentFranklin> Running Ubuntu Server 12.04 and getting Plymouth error messages.  Why does Plymouth run on server?
[02:50] <goddard> c2tarun: rss feeds are supported by a plugin isn
[02:50] <goddard> it
[02:51] <c2tarun> goddard: thanks :) I'll try and look how to install isn
[02:51] <Areckx> I am unable to connect to my iPhone through USB, what's wrong?
[02:53] <escott> BentFranklin, drink the koolaid. you have no choice, just drink it
[02:53] <Daghdha> Hi
[02:53] <Daghdha> I am trying to format a partition but it says is in use, how can i see what's using it?
[02:54] <escott> BentFranklin, you can try removing "quiet splash" from your /etc/default/grub boot options, but plymouth is always there
[02:54] <Daghdha> awwwwwwww
[02:54] <Daghdha> need to unmount as root
[02:55] <BentFranklin> escott:  yeah I looked at that file but there's nothing about splash in there
[02:55] <xu34> i'm trying to figure out the size of a disk that has no partition table; i think i can get it with the udevadm command and the USEC_INITIALIZED line although i have no idea how to calculate it.  does anybody have any idea. this is the size of one disk (i think):  E: USEC_INITIALIZED=5087245
[02:56] <escott> xu34, why not just use "sudo parted -l"?
[02:56] <c2tarun> goddard: I couldn't find isn addon on mozilla site, can you please tell me how to get it and install it to thunderbird
[02:57] <xu34> escott: i was and because there is no label it gives an error instead of the size
[03:01] <xu34> escott: solved it... little bit of extra work. have to suppress the error message and then my code works
[03:01] <CynepCupon> so…. i have a very serious question
[03:01] <CynepCupon> 12.04 iso
[03:01] <CynepCupon> why the **** won't the disc image mount?
[03:01] <CynepCupon> i've downoad ubuntu, ubuntu studio… 12.04 LTS
[03:01] <CynepCupon> they won't mount
[03:01] <CynepCupon> i can't burn the .iso file
[03:01] <syddraf> Have you md5'd them to check for integrity?
[03:02] <CynepCupon> i'm on OSX
[03:02] <Daghdha> i can't unmount a drive because it's in used, can i force it?
[03:02] <escott> CynepCupon, you don't mount it. you burn it directly
[03:02] <syddraf> I fail to see why that would prevent you from md5ing them
[03:02] <CynepCupon> yes but i can also mount them to check
[03:02] <escott> CynepCupon, OSX has a god complex, and things everything is for itself. so just save the iso and then burn it
[03:02] <CynepCupon> the rest of linux distros mounted fine
[03:03] <vook> sounds corrupt if it can't be burned, try 'burn' (the software)
[03:03] <CynepCupon> but would the website be linking to corrupt iso fileS?
[03:03] <escott> Daghdha, not really. there is a lazy unmount, but it stays mounted until whoever is in it leaves. you can use "lsof" to find who has it open
[03:03] <CynepCupon> the torrent, the direct download…. and the studio version
[03:04] <vook> no, if its corrupt it may have happened during download.
[03:04] <Daghdha> i grepped lsof output on .mnt/Downloads and saw nothing
[03:04] <Daghdha> i grepped lsof output on /mnt/Downloads and saw nothing
[03:04] <vook> avoid the torrent if possible.
[03:04] <CynepCupon> ok…. another go at the download
[03:04] <CynepCupon> i hate this part
[03:04] <L3top> xu34: can you explain better, because I don't think it is correct.
[03:05] <escott> vook, why would one avoid a torrent if they were worried about corruption... seems the opposite would make more sense
[03:05] <CynepCupon> but not as bad as the openSUSE download, 4.6 gigs
[03:05] <Klikini> Torrent files can contain viruses and may be corrupted.
[03:05] <CynepCupon> well i'm on OSX and leaving it
[03:05] <CynepCupon> going to linux on a lenovo
[03:05] <vook> CynepCupon: if you can make use of wget, do so.
[03:06] <CynepCupon> what is wget
[03:06] <escott> what is this? lie about torrents day?
[03:06] <vook> no, torrents are a mess.
[03:06] <vook> no lies.
[03:06] <Daghdha> torrents can be a mess, theoretically.
[03:06] <CynepCupon> well torrents download from multiple sources
[03:07] <escott> vook, and we shouldn't trust git either?
[03:07] <vook> CynepCupon: wget is a terminal based download tool, just search for wget osx
[03:07] <CynepCupon> apple products are for people who have too much money, and need to waste some.
[03:08] <xu34> L3top   sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc 2>/dev/null | grep /dev | grep bytes | cut -d " " -f 3-4   outputs the size of the disk (not the partition) and this disk might be without a partition table (dd if=/dev/zeero of=/dev/sdc bs=1M count=1 for instance)
[03:08] <vook> escott: who said anything about git?
[03:08] <CynepCupon> think Lenovo will run ubuntu ok?
[03:08] <Daghdha> wow is like 40 processes keeping my drive busy
[03:09] <xu34> L3top: if i don't suppress error output then i can't cut out the numbers...
[03:09] <CynepCupon> i'm more excited about this Lenovo/Linux combination gift to myself, more excited than a teenage girl at a justin beiber concert!!!!
[03:09] <escott> vook, both are based on sha1 hash chains.
[03:09] <bazhang> !ot | CynepCupon
[03:09] <vook> escott: i don't really care to debate in irc, its off topic.
[03:09] <xu34> L3top: my output for instance is "4004 MB,"  I actually don't like the comma in that output although have no idea how to remove... cut doesn't seem to work in reverse though
[03:09] <L3top> xu34: yes... I was referring to the udevadm info.
[03:10] <L3top> xu34: THAT is not what I thought you thought it was
[03:10] <CynepCupon> understood.
[03:10] <CynepCupon> thank you.
[03:10] <xu34> L3top: ok, i won't use the udevadm info for figuring out the size. i don't know if that output in udevadm was size related. i think not now. i'm still using the command to figure out if the disk is an ata disk or a usb mass storage device
[03:11] <CynepCupon> any advice for choosing the file system?
[03:11] <CynepCupon> just regular everyday use + WINE gaming
[03:11] <escott> CynepCupon, ext4 is the recommended standard
[03:11] <CynepCupon> thank you
[03:13] <Daghdha> The output of my fudesr is: /dev/sda3:            1900  2366  2371  2391  2393  2457  2490  2739  2776  2781  2782  2785  2791  2792  2793  2797  2798  2801  2802  2806  2822  2825  2834  2838  2845  2855  2861  2881  2890  2894  2905  2913  2915  2917  2920  2921  2923  2957  2960  2963  3000  3013  3015  3017  3019  3042  3052  3054  3071  3073  3089  3097  3107  3114  3135  3171  3200  3217
[03:13] <Daghdha> 11510 19643 19712
[03:13] <Daghdha> can't realy do anything wit that can i?
[03:14] <escott> Daghdha, you can match those pids with stuff in ps aux. many are closely related so are probably children holding onto the same file handle as the parent or sharing a cwd
[03:14] <ariesam> What is the best brand for Ubuntu in Laptops. Dell, Toshiba, Sony, Acer.. ?
[03:16] <Daghdha> escott: One is 1000      2393  0.0  0.0 273436   756 ?        Sl   Jul14   0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs//gvfs-fuse-daemon -f /home/admin_eric/.gvfs
[03:16] <Daghdha> I don't see how it relates to that device. Is that program  using that device?
[03:17] <escott> Daghdha, sounds like you have it open in nautilus or something
[03:17] <pawan> hi
[03:17] <pawan> wired network
[03:17] <pawan> device not managed
[03:17] <memand> has any of you guys tried working  with nvidia before
[03:17] <memand> ?
[03:18] <Daghdha> i think i closed nautilus though
[03:18] <vook> !any
[03:18] <escott> Daghdha, i dont know the full situation of what you are doing here
[03:19] <Daghdha> I want to format it
[03:19] <escott> Daghdha, but what is on it now? how did you mount it to begin with?
[03:20] <memand> or do you have any good references for both unix (spesifically ubuntu on a boot usb) and BASIC
[03:20] <Daghdha> ext3, it's part of my system. But it has low performace with deleting big files and it was suggested i used ext4 instead
[03:20] <Daghdha> I deleted all files and folders on it.
[03:20] <escott> Daghdha, LOL
[03:20] <escott> Daghdha, you know you can go directly from ext3 to ext4 without reformatting
[03:21] <Daghdha> uhm
[03:21] <Daghdha> i do not
[03:21] <escott> Daghdha, and then all you would have had to do was copy the files to new folders to create the extents
[03:21] <Daghdha> ormove?
[03:21] <L3top> xu34: expr $(udevadm info -a -p $(udevadm info -q path -n /dev/sda) | grep size | sed 's/.*=//;s/"//g') \/ 2
[03:21] <escott> Daghdha, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-convert-ext3-to-ext4-file-system.html
[03:21] <glitsj16> pawan: http://askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-manager-says-device-not-managed might be worth a try if you haven't already
[03:21] <Daghdha> ok, but i bet the same problem will pervent the exr3>4 conversion
[03:21] <escott> Daghdha, has to be a copy. move just moves the inode, you would need to explicitely create the copy
[03:23] <escott> Daghdha, not that it matters at this point but there really is only one "ext" filesystem. they can all be upwards converted to the next by enabling features (and sometimes even downwards converted, but that is not as well supported)
[03:24] <Daghdha> The in thing i always liked about lunix is that it does what you fkn tell it. Like format the root. And now i can't even dismount a disk forcefully. It's like windows al over again :(
[03:24] <memand> I have a very specific problem with my laptop and a usb boot drive I can explain further but it's a loooooong storry
[03:24] <Daghdha> escott: Thanks for the info, i will do that next time. Since i already cleared it i will just format it later when i am allowed by OCP
[03:25] <Daghdha> or was that MCP
[03:25] <escott> Daghdha, why no issue a lazy unmount and logout
[03:25] <Daghdha> i will.. remove mount from fstab and reboot
[03:25] <Daghdha> will that be ok?
[03:25] <escott> Daghdha, that works too
[03:25] <zoboom> Anyone here know much about the reasons that my Windows partition don't show up in GParted but they do in fdisk???
[03:26] <escott> zoboom, i can think of reasons for the reverse
[03:26] <L3top> xu34: thanks for making me explore that. We are mounting stuff briefly to get its size. I didn't think I would be able to get it with udevadm.
[03:26] <zoboom> escott: When trying to dual boot ubuntu and Windows 7 i don't get the option to "install alongside Windows...."
[03:26] <escott> zoboom, can you paste us the output of sudo parted -l and sudo fdisk -l
[03:27] <escott> zoboom, there could be something very very wrong with your partition tables. which would be very very very bad
[03:27] <zoboom> escott: sure, just give me a second I'm  on my netbook now and making a live usb as we speak for my desktop that I'm trying to install to.
[03:27] <zoboom> That's not too big of a deal it's a clean in stall of windows, everything has been backed up.
[03:29] <escott> zoboom, i doubt my fears are reasonable. win7 should notice this, but seeing what parted and fdisk think would explain a lot
[03:31] <xu34> L3top :) i think that actually works better / more reliably
[03:34] <Gnea> so glad ubuntu provides screen and do-release-upgrade...
[03:34] <L3top> xu34: if you are going to explore partitions change that grep size to grep 'ATTR{size}'
[03:35] <L3top> xu34: I realize that isnt the point... just saying if it is a catchall sizer... that will have to change otherwise it returns ATTR and ATTRS for the parent.
[03:38] <mason> i need help i cant see the windows drive on xubuntu
[03:38] <xu34> L3top: it's only to grab the size of the entire physical disk (/dev/sda /dev/sdb etc where sda and sdb might be usb or sata disks)
[03:40] <Hganavak> What's a collaborative note taking software available on linux?
[03:40] <mason> hee.p im trying to see the window drive with all windows stuff from ubuntu
[03:40] <escott> Hganavak, collaborative online note taking? or offline?
[03:41] <Gnea> Hganavak: nevernote
[03:41] <Hganavak> Online escott. Is there anyone other than Nevernote? Don't really wanna pay the $50US/year for other people to actually be able to edit the notes Gnea..
[03:43] <mason> HELLP
[03:43] <mason> LP
[03:43] <mason> EELE
[03:43] <mason> ELE
[03:43] <mason> LELEL3
[03:43] <FloodBot1> mason: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <escott> Hganavak, Gnea suggested nevernote. i don't know what that is. but online collaborative editing... google.com/docs there are also plugins for emacs these days to do google docs (although they are a bit messy from what i could see)
[03:46] <Hganavak> escott: As I said Nevernote costs $50US/year for access to full features
[03:46] <Hganavak> Other than that, it's perfect......
[03:47] <escott> !info gdisk > zoboom2
[03:50] <delinquentme> is 7 zip the default compression tool for ubuntu?
[03:52] <escott> delinquentme, no
[03:52] <BentFranklin> gzip
[03:52] <delinquentme> derp
[03:52] <delinquentme> right!
[03:53] <Daghdha> Can ubuntu take screenshots?
[03:53] <hith> hi. could anyone please let me know how to install java?
[03:55] <cfhowlett> Daghdha: Accesssories/Screenshot so yes
[03:57] <joosengee> Hi,
[03:58] <joosengee> have someone get the file .ics into the email?
[03:58] <joosengee> I get and I use thunderbird.
[03:58] <joosengee> I can't open it.
[03:58] <joosengee> Someone can?
[04:01] <joosengee> someone help me please
[04:03] <hmf> heelo
[04:04] <hmf> does somebody know how to partition in ubuntu?
[04:04] <junglist> Hey everyone, I have about 150GB of music on my desktops harddrive, the desktop runs ubuntu 12.04. I have a brand new 15" macbook that I would like to copy all of that music to. What is going to be the fastest way to do this? Both computers have firewire and usb 3.0 but I am unsure of how to connect them, if I just a firewire cable into both is it as simple as dragging the folders to a mounted thumbdrive or something? The only article
[04:05] <junglist>  hmf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[04:05] <hmf> thx:)
[04:06] <tberman> Where is the right place to talk to someone about the unity-webapps-preview stuff?
[04:07] <tberman> Having some issues integrating it into my site (specifically the MediaPlayer stuff), looking to get some insights.
[04:10] <hmf> junglist: do you know if I can use Gparted in windows to resize a ubuntu root partition?
[04:10] <hmf> It says something about unmounting it first.
[04:11] <junglist>  hmf you can boot an ubuntu live cd and then use gparted to alter the windows partition.
[04:11] <junglist>  hmf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions/
[04:13] <hmf> Junglist: I setup dualboot on my laptop but I allocated to much for the ubuntu root /
[04:14] <wally13377> I chose to install the 3rd party software when I was running through the kubuntu installation and I can't play dvd's. What else do I need, I tried a sudo apt-get install libdvdcss and it spurts out an error at me in the form of "E: Package 'libdvdcss' has no installation candidate"
[04:14] <hmf> so i was seeing if i could resize the / and reclaim it in /home
[04:15] <junglist>  hmf yes you can do that but i think the best way is to boot from live cd so that all of your drives and partitions are available and unmounted
[04:15] <hmf> oh okay I try that thx junglist
[04:16] <junglist>  hmf no problem
[04:16] <junglist>  hmf make sure you backup anything iimportant first! :)
[04:16] <junglist> to late, hope they backup
[04:17] <junglist> Hey everyone, I have about 150GB of music on my desktops harddrive, the desktop runs ubuntu 12.04. I have a brand new 15" macbook that I would like to copy all of that music to. What is going to be the fastest way to do this? Both computers have firewire and usb 3.0 but I am unsure of how to connect them, if I just a firewire cable into both is it as simple as dragging the folders to a mounted thumbdrive or something? The only article
[04:18] <Gnea> junglist: well you could use usb networking to copy across that, but ethernet would really just be the better way to go
[04:19] <Gnea> junglist: I would just setup samba on the desktop, share your music folder to the mac, have the mac connect via the Network on the sidepane
[04:20] <Gnea> junglist: as for the easiest way to transfer, just start it before bed, then walk away and it'll be done in the morning ;)
[04:21] <junglist> Gnea: Ok that sounds like what I need. will I need a crossover cable?
[04:21] <Gnea> junglist: probably, unless you have an ethernet switch on your wifi router
[04:21] <junglist> Cool. Thanks!
[04:22] <Gnea> np gl
[04:22]  * Gnea watches X crash yet again
[04:22] <Gnea> hopefully this upgrade to 11.10 will fix it...
[04:23] <joosengee> hi
[04:23] <joosengee> how's different with kernel 3.5 and 3.2?
[04:24] <wrapids> Where cn I get some help with WUBI?
[04:27] <Gnea> wrapids: just tell us what the problem is, someone will jump in and help if they know
[04:27] <Gnea> !wubi
[04:28] <wrapids> lso my 'eh' key is broken. :( so plese bre with me. I'm hving some grphics issues in tht it's displying very broken screen tht doesn't hve ny sort of informtion. Just lines nd crp. I hvnt found ny errors.
[04:30] <Daghdha_AFK> cool
[04:30] <Daghdha_AFK> ANd it still autostarts, thank GOD
[04:40] <kevin> hi all. i'm trying to set up ipv6 static network configuration. kinda looking at http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-ipv6-networking-configuration/ ...  but can my interface (eth0) have both static addresses for ipv4 /and/ ipv6? ie, can you have both "iface eth0 inet6 static" and "iface eth0 inet static" sections?
[04:43] <btral> hi. i want to config a dhcrelay
[04:43] <btral> please help me to start it?
[04:44] <kevin> hrmmm brb.
[04:44] <pepee> kevin, ask in ##networking
[04:44] <pepee> ugh
[04:54] <xurious> kevin: yes it can.
[04:55] <n8k99> xurious don't know if he's back yet
[04:55] <pepee> xurious, he left
[04:56] <xurious> no timestamps or login/outs = fail.
[05:00] <thevoid> hey guys, novice question here.   i have a bunch of drives mounted on boot via fstab entries.  it says root is the owner of the mounts,  and i have chmod 777 them since they are storage shares.  the problem i'm having is that i have a program that runs on boot as a user,  and the program wants to chmod a directory that it will create.  what is the best solution to give that program/user permissons
[05:00] <thevoid> to chmod?
[05:01] <hwkiller-netbook> why don't you change the effective uid and gid of the mount itself, so you don't have to chmod it every time?
[05:03] <yupidoo> Hola
[05:04] <pepee> hola yupidoo . este canal esta en ingles
[05:05] <thevoid> hwkiller no idea how to do that,  got a phrase i can search to do some reading?
[05:05] <yupidoo> gracias pepeee
[05:05] <pepee> !es | yupidoo
[05:06] <pepee> thevoid, read the fstab and mount manpages
[05:06] <thevoid> k thanks
[05:07] <pepee> thevoid, with / you can search for something. search for uid/gid in the mount manpage
[05:08] <yuskhanzab> hello
[05:09] <yuskhanzab> what is the best application to convert video .webm format?
[05:11] <royaloak> hi
[05:11] <hith> hi
[05:11] <royaloak> quick question...
[05:11] <hith> could someone let me know how to install java?
[05:11] <hith> seriously
[05:11] <royaloak> i'm trying to write a very simple bash script which executes this line "sudo squidGuard -C all"
[05:11] <hith> 12.04
[05:11] <royaloak> when i run the ./script.sh which has this 1 line of code in it, it seems to just hang and doesn't execute
[05:12] <hith> i've followed the instructions
[05:12] <hith> i dont know what the  heck is going on
[05:12] <royaloak> but if i run that same line of code from the command prompt it works fine, just doenst ilke being in a script
[05:12] <royaloak> what am i doing wrong?
[05:13] <hith> o/ hello!? anyone out there?!
[05:13] <hwkiller-netbook> yes, of course hith
[05:13] <hwkiller-netbook> what's the problem
[05:14] <hith> yes i just was wondering if there's a way to install java on 12.04
[05:14] <hith> i installed iced tea
[05:14] <hith> it doesnt work
[05:14] <royaloak> #!/bin/bash
[05:14] <royaloak> sudo squidGuard –C all
[05:14] <royaloak> so no1 knows why this bash script just hangs?
[05:14] <royaloak> but it works fine if i run that command from the command prompt
[05:14] <cheshair> Hi! I am running latest version of Firefox on my up-to-date Ubuntu 12.04. I am trying to reach http://wiasf.cupmet-fi.it/ASFWeb/WICUP/index.do and get a "Start: applet not initialized" error. As a consequence, I can't run the small Java applet
[05:15] <cheshair> any tips?
[05:16] <somethinginteres> what's the easiest way to convert a .img file to .iso?
[05:16] <thevoid> just rename
[05:16] <thevoid> they are the same format
[05:17] <MisterE2> hi guys, booted from live cd 12.04 and can't get sshd up
[05:17] <MisterE2> installed it via apt-get
[05:17] <MisterE2> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server start: Unknown job: ssh ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[05:18] <somethinginteres> thevoid: gave that a go before but file-roller didn't like it said it wasn't an ISO file
[05:18] <MisterE2> this should be easy peasy networking 101
[05:20] <MisterE2> anyone can help me get sshd up booted from live cd?
[05:24] <MisterE2> parted by accident plz help me get sshd up booted from live cd 12.04?
[05:24] <MaMaD> How install Unity 3D ???????
[05:24] <MaMaD> How install Unity 3D ???????
[05:25] <MisterE2> :(
[05:26] <pepee> MisterE2, service ssh start
[05:27] <MisterE2> pepee: start: Unknown job: ssh
[05:27] <pepee> MisterE2, ls -l /etc/init.d/ssh
[05:27] <pepee> somethinginteres, check fuseiso
[05:27] <pepee> somethinginteres, uh, no, sorry, that won't convert the file
[05:28] <halvors>  I run a dhcp server (isc-dhcp-server) on eth0, this works fine, when plugging in a pc, it obtain an ip address. But now i'm trying to implement vlans. So now i have the vlan10 interface, wich have the ip address <IP_ADDRESS>, my problem now is then i not set an ip address on eth0 but use vlan10 for this instead, and changing the listen interface for isc-dhcp-server to vlan10. I no longer obtain an ip address. :( Anyone knows why?
[05:28] <pepee> halvors, I'd ask in ##networking
[05:28] <MisterE2> pepee: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4371 Apr  2 11:49 /etc/init.d/ssh
[05:29] <pepee> MisterE2, as root:  /etc/init.d/ssh start
[05:29] <MisterE2> ok thanks
[05:29] <Nikon> Hi
[05:30] <MisterE2> pepee: may i /msg you plz?
[05:31] <pepee> MisterE2, yes
[05:32] <pepee> hmm does someone knows how is the unity DE package called? just unity?
[05:32] <Zapsoda> hi
[05:33] <Zapsoda> how do i install java on ubuntu 11.10  from the Command line? i have no GUI
[05:34] <pepee> Zapsoda, apt-cache search java  <- to search for a package
[05:34] <Zapsoda> alot came up
[05:34] <pepee> Zapsoda, I have java-common
[05:35] <Zapsoda> so?  sudo apt-get java-common?
[05:35] <Zapsoda> is that right
[05:36] <Zapsoda> ?
[05:36] <pepee> Zapsoda,  sudo apt-get install java-common
[05:36] <Zapsoda> ty
[05:37] <btral> i have a sh for dhcrelay
[05:37] <btral> please see this : http://serverfault.com/questions/404944/dhcrelay-running-as-both-dhcp-and-dhcpv6-relay-agent-on-centos-6-2
[05:37] <Zapsoda> how do i test if its intalled?
[05:37] <wally13377> how do I install a .tar.lzma file
[05:37] <btral> how fill /etc/sysconf/dhsrelay?
[05:38] <pepee> Zapsoda, run: java
[05:38] <btral> how say? dhcrelay -i eth1 -i eth2 -m forward <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:38] <Zapsoda> -bash: java: command not found
[05:38] <btral> dhcp requests forward to another dhcp server (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[05:39] <vltra> hello everyone
[05:39] <pepee> btral, I'd ask in ##networking
[05:40] <nag_> Zapsoda: try this link. It may help full to u "http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/"
[05:40] <pepee> Zapsoda, try installing openjdk-6-jre
[05:42] <rollitup> Hi I  have been using Ubuntu 12.04 since past couple of months and i had begun to love it, just last night I did some upgrade and today when i boot i get a grub read error
[05:42] <rollitup> can someone help me troubleshoot this
[05:44] <pepee> rollitup, what error?
[05:44] <rollitup> grub read error
[05:45] <rollitup> i am able to get the recovery mode lets see if this helps
[05:46] <pepee> rollitup, it says something about the UUID?
[05:46] <rollitup> no, but hey thanx pepee I am able to boot now
[05:46] <pepee> rollitup, reinstall grub from a live cd
[05:46] <rollitup> :)
[05:46] <rollitup> I booted in recovery mode and it asked me to press F to fix the erros
[05:47] <pepee> rollitup, good. reinstall it shortly after booting...
[05:47] <rollitup> I need to clean up this desktop with a vaccum cleaner its pretty dusty
[05:47] <Zapsoda> is there anyway i can run a program that has a GUI from SSH?
[05:49] <pepee> Zapsoda, yes, you nedd to do something like:   DISPLAY=:0 program
[05:49] <pepee> Zapsoda, replace "program"
[05:49] <Zapsoda> but what about the options? that are filled in from the GUI?
[05:51] <pepee> Zapsoda, DISPLAY=:0 program options
[05:52] <xui32> i'm installing grub via the terminal to a disk; does anybody know how to suppress questions? i get configuring grub-pc and just want to use the defaults. this is for an automated script i'm writing.
[05:53] <xui32> i already have -y -q like this "chroot /mnt/ apt-get install -y -q cryptsetup lvm2 dmsetup grub2 linux-image-2.6-amd64 aufs-tools whois"
[05:54] <Zapsoda> so?
[05:54] <Zapsoda> java -prog.jar DISPLAY=:0 program options
[05:54] <Zapsoda> ?
[05:54] <pepee> Zapsoda, DISPLAY=:0 java -jar prog.jar
[05:55] <LinuxVertigo> What happens if a download in Software Center freezes?
[05:55] <LinuxVertigo> I can't seem to be able to cancel it
[05:55] <xui32> LinuxVertigoL your computer blows up
[05:56] <LinuxVertigo> head asplodes
[05:56] <xui32> * meant that literally as a joke
[05:56] <LinuxVertigo> lol
[05:56] <LinuxVertigo> yeah i know, do you know how to cancel the d/l?
[05:56] <xui32> LinuxVertifo: i don't
[05:56] <Zapsoda> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.
[05:57] <LinuxVertigo> well golly gosh
[05:57] <LinuxVertigo> got it
[05:59] <pepee> Zapsoda, try DISPLAY=localhost:0 java -jar prog.jar
[05:59] <pepee> Zapsoda, or replace localhot with the host IP
[05:59] <stan_man_can> how do you set permissions to get -rw-r--r--
[06:00] <Asad2005> i am building a new network attached storage server two 3TB drives and would like your openion in the following options:
[06:00] <Zapsoda> nope
[06:00] <pepee> stan_man_can, check the chmod manpage
[06:00] <Zapsoda> that didnt work
[06:00] <Asad2005> 1-use ubuntu with zfs file system. pros are i know good enough to adminster ubuntu
[06:00] <Asad2005> 2-use openindiana with zfs. cons. my knowledge in OI is limitted
[06:01] <pepee> stan_man_can, not sure but I think that one is 644
[06:01] <Asad2005> 3-Use FreeNass with zfs. pros. easy to administer i think?
[06:01] <Zapsoda> i give up
[06:01] <stan_man_can> pepee: 644 was it thanks
[06:01] <pepee> stan_man_can, or just u=rw,go=r
[06:01] <Zapsoda> how do i install VNC on it?
[06:01] <stan_man_can> Not sure if this is ontopic for here but anyone know how i can correct this error? trying to setup a ssl cert
[06:01] <stan_man_can> [emerg]: SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file("/home/user/domain/www.domain.com.key") failed (SSL: error:0906D06C:PEM routines:PEM_read_bio:no start line error:140B0009:SSL routines:SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file:PEM lib)
[06:01] <Daghdha> ANyway to make that bar on the keft(with the icons) atthe bottom? Like in windows
[06:01] <pepee> Zapsoda, apt-cache search vnc server
[06:02] <LinuxVertigo> how do I shot web?
[06:02] <pepee> stan_man_can, ls -l "/home/user/domain/www.domain.com.key"
[06:03] <pepee> LinuxVertigo, lol
[06:03] <andrewh192> hey, prolly a really stupid question but what is the best way to take a screen shot of my screen?
[06:04] <andrewh192> does the "print scrn" button on my keyboard work for that purpose?
[06:04] <Daghdha> andrewh192: I just did that.. in a VNC on my windows machine.
[06:04] <pepee> andrewh192, try it
[06:04] <pepee> andrewh192, should work
[06:04] <stan_man_can> pepee: -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 1037 Jul 22 22:19 /home/user/domain/www.domain.com.key
[06:04] <pepee> andrewh192, in kde you have ksnapshot. no idea about unity
[06:05] <andrewh192> gotcha
[06:05] <andrewh192> it worked
[06:05] <andrewh192> yay!!! thanx
[06:05] <Zapsoda> when i VNC in all i get is like the background image
[06:06] <pepee> stan_man_can, ask in ##security , I suppose they can help you
[06:06] <Fudge> anyone ever seen this message WARNING: kernel is not very fresh, upgrade is recommended.
[06:07] <stan_man_can> pepee: thx
[06:07] <Fudge> using precise desktop 3.2.0-26-generic
[06:07] <pepee> Fudge, no, never seen that
[06:07] <Fudge> same
[06:07] <pepee> strange...
[06:08] <pepee> is -27-generic installed?
[06:08] <Fudge> pepee  nope
[06:09] <Fudge> nore is it being held back of offerred for upgrade
[06:09] <wally13377> I
[06:09] <wally13377> I'
[06:09] <wally13377> I've just installed ubuntu and im missing g++ etc
[06:09] <wally13377> is there a base package of essential make tools I can get
[06:09] <Loshki> Fudge: I haven't seen it, but google has. If it's from ping, it's a known bug...
[06:09] <pepee> wally13377, install gcc
[06:09] <Fudge> it is from ping yes
[06:09] <Phiscribe> build-essentials i think
[06:10] <Phiscribe> build-essential   not with the s
[06:10] <Loshki> Fudge: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=120166
[06:10] <StarryNight> anyone is watching youtube vidoes?
[06:10] <Fudge> thanks Loshki
[06:10] <wally13377> pepee: it's set to manually installed
[06:11] <pepee> wally13377, hmm install g++
[06:11] <StarryNight> everything seems blue all of a sudden
[06:11] <Phiscribe> build-essential installs g)) gcc make dpkg-dev libc6-dev
[06:11] <Phiscribe> g++ that is
[06:12] <wally13377> it just seems like there is huge hole in my systems ability to compile anything
[06:12] <wally13377> http://pastebin.com/AaPU1rkG
[06:12] <Phiscribe> wally13377 build-essential
[06:12] <wally13377> Phiscribe: thankyou. Why isn't this package installed by default?
[06:12] <Phiscribe> dunno space?
[06:13] <wally13377> 2857KB worth of space, that is ridiculous
[06:13] <wally13377> how ever will my modern computer cope
[06:13] <xz_> Ubuntu need to fit on the CD.
[06:13] <Loshki> wally13377: because these days, fewer people compile things. On ubuntu, it's rarely necessary...
[06:14] <Phiscribe> i dont know why its not default, space was just an idea, another might be to keep the people out of trouble
[06:14] <xz_> Not too much people compile things.
[06:15] <pepee> try installing gentoo  :P
[06:15] <wally13377> I have installed gentoo before
[06:15] <wally13377> years ago
[06:15] <pepee> wally13377, some projects tipically have a list of dependencies for the programs in some website
[06:15] <wally13377> this unfortunately is why linux can be such a pain. If this had been windows sage would be running cleanly in virtualbox after a few clicks
[06:15] <pepee> wally13377, http://www.sagemath.org/download-source.html
[06:16] <wally13377> oh dear god it is actually compiling
[06:16] <wally13377> I was missing m4 as well
[06:16] <wally13377> I have to admit that kubuntu is rather beautiful
[06:17] <Phiscribe> yeah its sexy
[06:17] <pepee> but bloated
[06:17] <wally13377> I don't understand why it isn't the default ubuntu
[06:17] <wally13377> the new gnome desktop is disgusting
[06:17] <wally13377> I don't want a bloody ipad clone as my desktop
[06:17] <Phiscribe> no problems, there is a selection, to each their own
[06:17] <pepee> yeah, kde is better than gnome and unity
[06:18] <pepee> that's why canonical hates it
[06:18] <Phiscribe> i can live with some bloat
[06:18] <wally13377> Gnome 2 was great, gnome and unity is terrible
[06:18] <pepee> kde runs lots of services
[06:18] <chu> !notunity
[06:18] <xdark> hii frnds
[06:18] <pepee> including mysql...
[06:18] <xdark> pepee   help mee plase
[06:18] <wally13377> pepee, I wonder how it compares to windows 7
[06:19] <pepee> !ask | xdark
[06:19] <Phiscribe> this is just my wild guess, but i think someone sees ubuntu battling the ipads and androids of the world, so they bend that direction somewhat, wild ugess
[06:19] <hwkiller-netbook> gnome 3 isn't bad. unity isn't bad. There's a lot of hatewagoning going on with those.
[06:19] <xdark> how can i  change  grub menu to burg
[06:19] <pepee> wally13377, everytime I install windows, I remove all the eye candy...
[06:19] <Phiscribe> unity is ok, just i like kde better
[06:20] <wally13377> I don't think there is room for another ipad/android because these OS's are purely based around 'apps'
[06:20] <wally13377> and the larger the userbase the more apps
[06:20] <pepee> I used liked kde. now I'm using lxde
[06:20] <Phiscribe> eh i got my hd tv hanging on the wall so ppl can see my kde when they walk in, im so vain
[06:20] <univac> kde 3.5 was the best kde 4.x sux
[06:20] <Phiscribe> i use lxde on a couple boxes too
[06:20] <pepee> xdark, what is burg?
[06:20] <hwkiller-netbook> isn't burg just pointless now with grub2 and syslinux?
[06:21] <livingdaylight> help... firefox is not integrated into the TopBar. I don't know what happened, but does someone know how to reconfigure it so, that it is
[06:21] <wally13377> pepee, what sort of hardware are you running? Surely a modern computer with 4gb ram and a quadcore processor would not show any difference between lxde and gnome/kde bloat?
[06:21] <pepee> xdark, why would you need it?
[06:21] <xdark> brand new universal loader from GRUB
[06:21] <disliked> Hi im trying to upgrade I'm on 8.04.... It says Stopping kernel log daemon OK, but then halts waiting for it to Start..... can someone please help???
[06:21] <pepee> wally13377, pretty sure it still does
[06:21] <Phiscribe> i run lxde on old boxes wally13377  i still got one box with antix that is a PII
[06:21] <hwkiller-netbook> No... burg is a fork, meant for more graphical features
[06:21] <xdark> its a moded grub
[06:22] <hwkiller-netbook> Yes; ubuntu doesn't even use grub anymore
[06:22] <Phiscribe> sorta dismantled atm, but i will RESERECT IT
[06:22] <hwkiller-netbook> it uses grub2
[06:22] <fidel_> ahoi
[06:22] <pepee> wally13377, lots of services and eyecandy means more resources
[06:22] <pepee> and security problems...
[06:22] <Phiscribe> icewm, da bomb diggty for old boxes
[06:23] <xdark> which version of grub using in ubuntu 11.10??  help me
[06:23] <wally13377> Phiscribe, dear sir why are you still using such antiquated hardware?
[06:23] <wally13377> Surely the powerbill is not worth it?
[06:23] <Phiscribe> wally13377 kind sir why are you not?
[06:23] <wally13377> you could invest in a quad core and run half a dozen virtualmachines
[06:23] <univac> I use Mutt and Lynx on a CLI  only interface
[06:23] <disliked> can someone help me with upgrading please
[06:23] <univac> ...sometimes
[06:24] <damir__> When my laptop is running on battery, ubuntu scales my cpu to freq 25%, and I can't convince it to use 100% or on-demand. It goes back to normal when plugged in. Ubuntu 8.04. Anyone has a clue what's going on?
[06:24] <xdark> ubuntu Greattt
[06:24] <disliked> Hi im trying to upgrade I'm on 8.04.... It says Stopping kernel log daemon OK, but then halts waiting for it to Start..... can someone please help???
[06:24] <univac> I don't need eye candy to read/write mail
[06:25] <pepee> damir__, laptop-mode I suppose
[06:25] <xdark> dislike ? tell mee which version  u used ??
[06:25] <Phiscribe> would it sit in the corner and play streaming music, or just be a picture display, or weather app, or just and extra? could you test on vm's for performance?  could you just not soak up the joy for the nostalgia, the chalenge? or bask in you new computer by spending a few moments with the old ones
[06:25] <disliked> I'm trying to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.12
[06:26] <disliked> or w/e the next version is
[06:26] <disliked> im on 8.04 though
[06:26] <Phiscribe> can your vm be a telephone?
[06:26] <Phiscribe> in another room
[06:26] <xdark> its ubuntu?
[06:26] <disliked> yup
[06:26] <damir__> pepee: i'll try disabling it
[06:26] <str0ke> a
[06:26] <str0ke> a
[06:26] <pepee> damir__, nah, don't do that...
[06:28] <xdark> dislike    am sorry about that
[06:28] <damir__> pepee: problem is, i lose any control over cpu freq scaling, even writing directly to /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/
[06:28] <disliked> ..
[06:28] <hwkiller-netbook> what governor is it using right now?
[06:28] <hwkiller-netbook> just userspace?
[06:28] <xdark> plase refer Duck Duck Go serch engine
[06:28] <pepee> damir__, check powersaved
[06:29] <disliked> what?
[06:29] <disliked> you dont even know what your talking about i bet
[06:29] <disliked> Can someone please help me? I'm having problems with a 8.04 upgrade
[06:29] <xdark> duckduckgo.com
[06:29] <pepee> -n     Disables CPU frequency scaling.  In case this feature may cause trouble.
[06:29] <pepee> from the manpage
[06:30] <xdark> i mean refer internet
[06:31] <wally13377> Phiscribe: I love old hardware as well
[06:31] <Phiscribe> ok now your contradicting yoruself, are you comfortable with that?
[06:32] <xdark> dislike   i have an idea about that now
[06:32] <disliked> whats your idea?
[06:32] <xdark> plzz follow mee
[06:32] <univac> Can someone please tell me how to install SeaMonkey from a tar.bz2
[06:32] <xdark> Start software sources from System--->Administration--->Software Sources
[06:32] <Xuriken> Hi!
[06:32] <str0ke> univac, extract it, read the README
[06:32] <wally13377> Phiscribe, I love practicability more than old hardware though
[06:32] <disliked> its console
[06:33] <brophat> anyone know any brick and mortar stores in the usa that sell intel wireless network adapter cards?
[06:33] <disliked> im on a vps
[06:33] <xdark> then click s/w sources
[06:33] <xdark> click on the "Updates"
[06:33] <disliked> thats not sounding like its related to my problem
[06:33] <univac> I extracted it and then typed ./configure but it came back with 'no such file or directory
[06:34] <disliked> and i cant click nothing, im in console
[06:34] <xdark> in under shows " relese update "  set to " normal release
[06:34] <disliked> bro what you're saying isnt making sense
[06:35] <disliked> sounds like nothing to do with start kernel daemon logging back up
[06:35] <Xuriken> I can not activate my video card discreet, someone can help me:?
[06:35] <Xuriken> 've got a lot of forum, reinstalled ubuntu, more than five times, and nothing ...  It wont start kernel log deamon but it stops it.. help please!!
[06:38] <xdark> Dislike   unity --reset
[06:38] <Kartagis> can you help me with linkchecker? it doesn't crawl any URLs
[06:38] <disliked> that has nothing to do with kernel log daemon!!!
[06:39] <pepee> disliked, download the alternate cd and upgrade from it
[06:39] <pepee> disliked, not sure if 8.10 is still supported...
[06:39] <disliked> pepee, hows that gonna make my kernel log deamon start?
[06:39] <disliked> everything else upgraded just fine
[06:39] <disliked> my kernel log daemon just wont start
[06:40] <pepee> Xuriken, instructions here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide
[06:40] <ubuntu> hi
[06:41] <livingdaylight> firefox is no longer is no longer integrated into GlobalMenu. Someone know how to fix that? globalmenu extension is there under extensions, so, I'm flumuxxed
[06:41] <pepee> disliked, ah. try reconfiguring the corresponding package?
[06:41] <Xuriken> pepee, looking to.
[06:41] <zhuliminl> ?
[06:41] <disliked> not sure how pepee?
[06:42] <disliked> im pretty newbish
[06:42] <zhuliminl> 有中国人不哈？
[06:42] <pepee> disliked, same here, not sure. but wasn't the log kernel removed or replaced?
[06:42] <pepee> zhuliminl, are you chinese?
[06:42] <univac> pwd
[06:42] <hwkiller-netbook> disliked, try "dpkg-reconfigure firefox-globalmenu"
[06:42] <zhuliminl> 恩 我是的
[06:42] <disliked> the .conf was
[06:43] <pepee> !cn | zhuliminl
[06:43] <NewBit> help
[06:43] <pepee> °ask | NewBit
[06:43] <disliked> hwkiller-netbook what does that have to do with kernel log daemon???
[06:43] <disliked> wtf
[06:43] <hwkiller-netbook> err, sorry
[06:43] <hwkiller-netbook> wrong person
[06:43] <disliked> lmao
[06:43] <hwkiller-netbook> livingdaylight, , try "dpkg-reconfigure firefox-globalmenu"
[06:43] <disliked> :\
[06:43] <Xuriken> pepee, sorry, I do not speak English very well ...
[06:43] <zhuliminl> chinese
[06:43] <NewBit> pepee: What is the help command in webirc?  I would imagine it is /help
[06:43] <zhuliminl> i am chinese
[06:43] <pepee> !cn | zhuliminl
[06:43] <Random832> zhuliminl: this is english channel
[06:44] <pepee> NewBit, no idea, just try it
[06:44] <NewBit> pepee: doesn't work
[06:44] <zhuliminl> i konw
[06:44] <pepee> disliked, not sure, sorry...
[06:44] <zhuliminl> wo yun !
[06:44] <pepee> disliked, why do you need the kernel logger btw?
[06:44] <pepee> disliked, you can check /var/log/syslog
[06:45] <Nikon> English channel
[06:45] <disliked> well its part of the update process
[06:45] <disliked> i dont need it it was just already there
[06:45] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook, any idea why it would have broken in the first place? All i've done is set Unity bar to Auto-Hide and install Unity Mail. It since then that firefox has stopped being integrated into global menu
[06:45] <hwkiller-netbook> No idea, livingdaylight
[06:45] <zhuliminl> 你们在做什么哈？
[06:45] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook, will dpkg-reconfigure firefox-globalmenu take me into complex reconfiguration menus?
[06:46] <pepee> uh
[06:46] <hwkiller-netbook> no, it shouldn't
[06:46] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook, do you run it as sudo?
[06:46] <disliked> i canceled it and did apt-get remove klogd
[06:46] <hwkiller-netbook> yes
[06:48] <Nicekiwi> LinuxVertigo: oh hai :P
[06:49] <LinuxVertigo> Nicekiwi hello
[06:49] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook, that command doesn't open anything up. Is it supposed to?
[06:49] <punto> hi.. how do I get rid of the bar on top of the screen and all the transparency effects on the destop on ubuntu 12.4?
[06:50] <Nicekiwi> LinuxVertigo: not quite morning anymore :P buit nice of you to say so anyways
[06:51] <xdark> hello
[06:51] <xdark> if anybody one use burg
[06:51] <xdark> help me
[06:52] <LinuxVertigo> Nicekiwi yeah it's all good in the hood
[06:53] <hwkiller-netbook> Why do you want to use burg, xdark?
[06:53] <hwkiller-netbook> I'm telling you, to my knowledge, burg is pointless nowadays
[06:53] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook, ?
[06:54] <kr4sh> i loaded ubuntu on D: but i can't find the folders i had in windows??
[06:54] <kr4sh> how do i see all my drives in ubuntu?
[06:54] <Nicekiwi> kr4sh: did you install ubuntu inside of windows with Wubi?
[06:54] <hwkiller-netbook> kr4sh, assuming you didn't destroy your windows install, open the file manager (nautilus) and look for your windows' partition name on the left
[06:55] <kr4sh> yes nicekiwi
[06:55] <kr4sh> no
[06:55] <kr4sh> i didnt
[06:55] <kr4sh> i can boot into windows
[06:55] <fidel_> kr4sh: yes/no?
[06:55] <kr4sh> No i didn't use wibu
[06:55] <Nicekiwi> kr4sh: look for a folder in your root directory called "host"
[06:55] <fidel_> *wubi* ;)
[06:56] <islandmonkey> lol wibu
[06:56] <kr4sh> lol
[06:57] <kr4sh> ok found it in host
[06:57] <kr4sh> kewl
[06:57] <kr4sh> why does ubuntu seem so much slower than windows?
[06:57] <kr4sh> could it be cuz windows is setup on the ssd?
[06:58] <fidel_> kr4sh: slower with what?
[06:58] <kr4sh> like when i click on stuff it takes a second to load
[06:58] <xdark> slower with what?
[06:58] <kr4sh> in windows it's instant
[06:58] <fidel_> kr4sh: click what?
[06:58] <kr4sh> slower than windows.
[06:58] <kr4sh> like, for instance, any folder
[06:58] <fidel_> kr4sh: try to speak in full sentences
[06:58] <kr4sh> or any program
[06:58] <hwkiller-netbook> I'm not sure if ubuntu auto-sets up your SSD. If you're using the ext4 filesystem, you need to enable the discard option, noatime, nodiratime
[06:58] <fidel_> it rocks ;)
[06:59] <islandmonkey> !flood | kr4sh
[06:59] <islandmonkey> Whoops
[06:59] <islandmonkey> !sentence | kr4sh
[06:59] <kr4sh> How do I setup that? (discard / noatime nodiratime) and will that have any effect on my windows drive?
[07:00] <kr4sh> I'm a noobie I'm sorry that I wasn't speaking in full sentences.
[07:00] <xdark> wine
[07:00] <xdark> 		sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[07:00] <xdark> 		sudo apt-get update
[07:00] <xdark> 		sudo apt-get install wine1.4
[07:00] <FloodBot1> xdark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:00] <xdark> ubuntu   prozgui   =idm
[07:00] <xdark> proz gui
[07:00] <Nicekiwi> kr4sh: you are using ubuntu on a windows partition formatted to NTFS, that mode WILL BE SLOW.
[07:01] <codemaniac> !info htop
[07:01] <kr4sh> Nicekiwi: oh ok.  Makes sense.  So I need another drive and it will be much faster?
[07:01] <fidel_> Nicekiwi: using wubi to install ubuntu isnt that perfect. it has some pros as it might look easy for starters . but it has some cons performance wise
[07:01] <fidel_> erm - that was for kr4sh
[07:01] <xdark> try ubuntu partition another drive   its Better
[07:01] <Nicekiwi> fidel_: :P ya i guessed
[07:01] <fidel_> ;)
[07:02] <kr4sh> Okay great.. I could also partition my 2tb drive right?
[07:02] <kr4sh> or even partition the ssd
[07:02] <Nicekiwi> kr4sh: yeah, if you have a spare harddrive you can install it on, best do that for preformance. Better if its an SSD drive :P
[07:02] <kr4sh> I think I will buy another ssd for linux.  Thanks for the help.
[07:03] <xdark> logging windows    then goto disk management
[07:03] <Nicekiwi> kr4sh: you can.. techincially.. but it will be slow assuming you have already fully partitioned the drive for windows. might take a day or so to complete a resise opperation
[07:03] <xdark> and try  a disk delete   " dont create
[07:03] <Nicekiwi> kr4sh: if you can afford that, gr8 :D best idea
[07:03] <xdark> then inset ur ubuntu live cd and restart.
[07:03] <kr4sh> excellent.
[07:03] <kr4sh> I'm going to idle here.
[07:03] <MkZx^> Where can I contact freenode #ubuntu group operators? :)
[07:03] <kr4sh> Goodnight.
[07:03] <brophat> which is better wirless G or N?
[07:04] <xdark> ubuntu will automatically detect ur windows partion
[07:04] <fidel_> MkZx^: chan-ops are in this channel
[07:04] <MkZx^> I see only @Bots
[07:04] <fidel_> brophat: N if all your devices support it
[07:04] <fidel_> !ops
[07:04] <xdark> good night
[07:04] <fidel_> MkZx^: they usually dont show the @ ;)
[07:04]  * Nicekiwi likes to pretend hes an op (hes really not!)
[07:05] <Logan_> fidel_: Please don't do that unless it's actually an emergency that the ops have to tend to.
[07:05] <brophat> fidel what does public places like starbuck use?
[07:06] <Nicekiwi> star*ucks ha ha ha
[07:06] <Nicekiwi> something slow and cheap i would assume.
[07:07] <xdark> freedom
[07:07] <brophat> fidel isn't G still basically wht is mostly used?
[07:07] <cheshair> Hi, can anybody have the Java applet running at http://wiasf.cupmet-fi.it/ASFWeb/WICUP/index.do with Firefox on Ubuntu 12.04? I get a "Start: applet not initialized" error and don't know how to solve that. (I have Java stuff installed and Java applets working fine on other pages. Conversely the Java applet I linked works fine on my Mac.)
[07:08] <Myrtti> MkZx^: why are you asking? feel free to join #ubuntu-ops, they will direct you elsewhere if needed
[07:09] <jpds> Myrtti: Already in -irc.
[07:09] <Myrtti> good good
[07:10] <MkZx^> I think I contacted right persons on #ubuntu-irc. I need to gain OP mode back for #ubuntu-lv channel, this is Latvian ubuntu community channel, but lately all OPs left
[07:10] <MkZx^> So channel is kinda dead, but still there are couple of people in there sometimes.
[07:14] <woowoowoo> Niggers can be found everywhere
[07:14] <woowoowoo> around every corner
[07:15] <woowoowoo> and their lovers are everywhere too!  One of freenode's most notorious niggerlovers is snardbafulator
[07:15] <DJones> woowoowoo: Wrong channel
[07:15] <woowoowoo> snardbafulator deserves to be tied up and anally
[07:17] <jhudak> Are any of the screensavers in Xscreensaver linked to music?
[07:23] <mang0> Hey all. I've recently built a new computer, (retaining my old HDDs) and I need to upgrade my Ubuntu 12.04 from 32-bit to 64-bit. Normally I would download the .ISO, put it on a CD, and boot up from that. However, my new computer doesn't yet have a disc-drive, so I'm trying to install from a USB thumb drive, which isn't working. I've followed the instructions on the ubuntu site to create a...
[07:23] <mang0> ...bootable USB stick, and yet when I put USB-HDD in the top of the list in BIOS, it still boots from my HDD. I've even tried removing HDD from the options, still boots from it. I then unplugged all of my HDDs, and POST just tells me there is no startup disk. What can I do? My motherboard is a Gigabyte 970A-DS3. Thanks!
[07:24] <SuperMiguel> wtf rsync keeps giving me error: rsync failed to set times invalid argument (22)
[07:24] <Phiscribe> sounds like the usb is not bootable, got another box to test it on
[07:25] <Arash> hello
[07:26] <mang0> Phiscribe: Uh...a mac?
[07:26] <usr13_> SuperMiguel: --omit-dir-times
[07:26] <mang0> Phiscribe: I know the ISO that I used is okay, i tested it in virtualbox.
[07:26] <SuperMiguel> usr13: what are those times for?
[07:27] <usr13_>  -O
[07:27] <Arash> hello I have a problem
[07:27] <SuperMiguel> usr13: ?
[07:27] <Arash> wait
[07:28] <Arash> fixed :D
[07:28] <usr13_> It sets modification times
[07:29] <Arash> guys how can I add google repository to my sources ?
[07:29] <usr13_> SuperMiguel: see  man rsync
[07:30] <islandmonkey> Arash: Did it not add automatically when you installed Google Chrome and/or Earth?
[07:30] <bsm117532> Anyone tried linux 3.4 or 3.5 kernels on precise?  2 computers and on both I get no (usb) keyboard input.
[07:30] <Arash> no ! It didn'
[07:30] <Arash> t
[07:30] <usr13_> SuperMiguel: -O
[07:30] <Arash> btw , my Google Earth has font problems
[07:31] <usr13_> SuperMiguel: -O tells rsync to omit directories when it is preserving modification times.
[07:31] <logolas> hello all I want to install kde-full and on installing it ask me this  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1105979/  which one?
[07:32] <Phiscribe> thats for infred control, like a remote control, are you using one?
[07:32] <SuperMiguel> usr13: still not sure what u mean by that
[07:32] <Phiscribe> infrared
[07:32] <Phiscribe> that was for logolas
[07:33] <logolas> Phiscribe, I have hp laptop and yes it have one remote :) which one i must to use ?
[07:33] <livingdaylight> anyone know what broke my FF integration in GlobalMenu ?
[07:34] <usr13_> SuperMiguel: The modification time is different and is being updated  to  the  sender's  value
[07:34] <livingdaylight> Is UBUNTU very fragile os?
[07:34] <logolas> Phiscribe, it only have hp Ipaq but i have dv 4
[07:34] <islandmonkey> Arash: I'd ask this question in the Chrome Help Forums - https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!forum/chrome
[07:34] <Phiscribe> logolas i dont know if your's is not on the list, worst case, pick none and reconfigure it later
[07:34] <stian_> hi guys. is it still possible to install proftpd in ubuntu?
[07:34] <stian_> is there are repo somehwere?
[07:35] <usr13_> SuperMiguel: ...or in this case, is not being updated ...
[07:35] <andrewh192> how to setup desktop sharing.. i figured out how to "share" my desktop on this computer, but how do i connect to this one?
[07:36] <usr13_> livingdaylight: Do you have chrome installed?
[07:36] <Phiscribe> stian_ proftpd used to be in the repo
[07:36] <islandmonkey> stian: sudo apt-get install proftpd works fine here (12.04)
[07:36] <r0tha> andrewh192:  check out vnc daemons
[07:36] <livingdaylight> usr13, no
[07:36] <islandmonkey> stian_: sudo apt-get install proftpd works fine here (12.04)
[07:36] <andrewh192> ok
[07:36] <livingdaylight> usr13, does installing chrome break firefox?
[07:36] <Phiscribe> andrewh192 i think you need a vnc client
[07:36] <andrewh192> ok
[07:36] <r0tha> Phiscribe: that and a server running on the box you want to connect to
[07:37] <r0tha> works really well
[07:37] <Phiscribe> ah well he said he set his desktop to share, so i assume he has a server
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[07:38] <FloodBot1> eXpander: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:38] <Loshki> livingdaylight: not usually. I run both chrome and FF at the same time under 12.04
[07:38] <livingdaylight> usr13, why do you ask?
[07:38] <livingdaylight> Loshki, FF is no longer integratd into global menu
[07:39] <fishbait> radeon hd 6670 is fglrx the amd proprietary driver that can be downlaoded from the amd website or is it different?
[07:39] <Loshki> livingdaylight: ah, I don't use unity, so I hadn't noticed..
[07:42] <fishbait> radeon hd 6670 is fglrx the amd proprietary driver that can be downlaoded from the amd website or is it different?
[07:43] <pepee> fishbait, yes, but I got a watermark when installed that driver...
[07:43] <pepee> *when I
[07:44] <andrewh192> Phiscribe: I was wondering, it looks as if, i need a set server in order to connect with vnc, and i just wanna connect over my local network two computers..
[07:45] <andrewh192> Phiscribe: one being my desktop, and the other a laptop. would be nice to be able to control my desktop from my laptop
[07:45] <andrewh192> Phiscribe: i thought maybe that there, through vino, i was able to just connect the two...
[07:45] <kristof> Does anyone know of an easy way to rip VRO dvd's in ubuntu? I'm using dvdrip, but it can only handle VOB's.
[07:46] <andrewh192> Phiscribe: without a dedicated server...
[07:46] <usr13_> livingdaylight: Doesn't necessarily completely break it but sometimes causes problems.
[07:47] <Phiscribe> andrewh192 if you "enable desktop sharing" you are turing the server on, you need a client on the other end to connect. you probably already have a server, its how all remote desktop sharing works
[07:47] <fishbait> how do i fine tune performance watching a video stored on an external hdd connected directly to the router and shared as a network drive i'm running full duplex gigabit ethernet and have a radeon HD 6670 fglrx driver using vlc media player. i want to eliminate video garble when skipping ahead
[07:47] <mang0> Hey all. I've recently built a new computer, (retaining my old HDDs) and I need to upgrade my Ubuntu 12.04 from 32-bit to 64-bit. Normally I would download the .ISO, put it on a CD, and boot up from that. However, my new computer doesn't yet have a disc-drive, so I'm trying to install from a USB thumb drive, which isn't working. I've followed the instructions on the ubuntu site to create a...
[07:47] <mang0> ...bootable USB stick (tried with both UNetbootin and dd), and yet when I put USB-HDD in the top of the list in BIOS, it still boots from my HDD. I've even tried removing HDD from the options, still boots from it. I then unplugged all of my HDDs, and POST just tells me there is no startup disk. What can I do? My motherboard is a Gigabyte 970A-DS3. Thanks!
[07:47] <usr13_> Phiscribe: proftpd still is in the repositories
[07:47] <Phiscribe> i can remember the nomenclature in the the latest ubuntu, but it the client might be called "connecto to remote computer" vnc client or soemthing
[07:47] <Phiscribe> cant
[07:48] <DJones> csop
[07:48] <gregcor> mang0: Is there anything on POST that allows you to pick a specific boot device one-time?
[07:49] <Phiscribe> stain_ was asking not me  usr13, i think he is long gone
[07:49] <mang0> gregcor: Yes, I can hit F12 to select the boot device for that boot. When I hit F12, it comes up with a few options, and one of them has a small bullet-point next to it, to show it's selected. This is always HDD, even if it's set not to in BIOS. If I select USB-HDD from tehre, same thing happens....
[07:50] <kristof> mang0, you saved the bios settings before rebooting?
[07:51] <fishbait> how do i fine tune performance watching a video stored on an external hdd connected directly to the router and shared as a network drive i'm running full duplex gigabit ethernet and have a radeon HD 6670 fglrx driver using vlc media player. i want to eliminate video garble when skipping ahead
[07:51] <mang0> kristof: Yup...It's been suggested to me that I "disasble other boot devices" in BIOS, and try again
[07:51] <usr13_> Phiscribe: Yea, I know... just FYI
[07:52] <fishbait> @mang0: this may sound stupid but are you saving the settings after you change them?
[07:52] <andrewh192> Phiscribe: gotcha
[07:52] <andrewh192> Phiscribe: thanx
[07:52] <andrewh192> Phiscribe: i am downloading Vinagre on my latop
[07:52] <andrewh192> Phiscribe: I will see if that works
[07:52] <mang0> fishbait: Yes :P
[07:53] <faza> hi ! i need help
[07:53] <fishbait> @mang0: well just thought i'd ask always start simple
[07:53] <r0tha> faza
[07:53] <r0tha> just ask
[07:53] <usr13_> mang0: Yea, that's about it, try dissabling options to boot other devices, that's about all you can do, other than try another USB stick.
[07:53] <mang0> fishbait: Of course :)
[07:53] <mang0> usr13: The only other stick I've got is 2GB, is that large enough?
[07:53] <kristof> And if you pull out the hard drive plug from the motherboard? Normally your computer would then try and find the next available bootable medium
[07:53] <faza> i cant use windows skype in ubuntu ultimate
[07:53] <LinuxVertigo> how do i get wine to recognise the 2nd disk of an installation?
[07:53] <r0tha> why would you want to use anything windows?
[07:53] <fishbait> @mang0: well i got nuthin else just like they said try dis abling other boot devices
[07:54] <r0tha> trololol
[07:54] <usr13_> mang0: I dono... look at the size of the ISO.  Maybe...
[07:54] <islandmonkey> faza: Use native skype
[07:54] <mang0> kristof: Of yeah, I forgot to say, I tried actually unplugging my HDDs, it just said "no bootable medium"
[07:54] <faza> how can i get that
[07:54] <r0tha> fishbait: go ahead and use the ubuntu software center
[07:54] <r0tha> search for skype
[07:54] <HiddenKnowledge> mang0: Does the bios mention usb anywhere?
[07:54] <r0tha> and you should be good to go
[07:54] <mang0> faza: sudo apt-get install skype
[07:54] <kristof> mang0: Have you made your USB-drive bootable?
[07:54] <islandmonkey> http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux
[07:54] <usr13_> mang0: Some PCs just seem to have a hard time booting to USB, I've had that problem too.
[07:54] <faza> let me try
[07:55] <islandmonkey> mang0: That is Skype 2.2
[07:55] <fishbait> @r0tha: you meant that for faza right?
[07:55] <islandmonkey> Latest version is 4.0
[07:55] <mang0> HiddenKnowledge: Yeah. I can set the boot order to USB-HDD, USB-CD, USB-FDD etc etc
[07:55] <r0tha> yezzir
[07:55] <mang0> islandmonkey: I see
[07:55] <fishbait> @r0tha: you messaged it to me
[07:55] <r0tha> ah my bad
[07:55] <r0tha> tab
[07:55] <mang0> kristof: I don't know...I used UNetbootin and dd, but I can't test it out on anothe rmachine
[07:56] <HiddenKnowledge> mang0: Hmm, maybe you might have more luck with another usb drive or with a usb dvd drive, assuming you have any.
[07:56] <islandmonkey> See http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/skype-for-linux-loses-beta-tag-bumps-to-4-0
[07:56] <mang0> seeing as I don't *have* another that I can test it on!
[07:56] <mang0> oh
[07:56] <gregcor> mang0: have you tried downloading something else through unetbootin?
[07:56] <chimptroll> Niggers are a scourge on humanity
[07:56] <r0tha> i use tab like a crackhead wanting a fix
[07:56] <mang0> HiddenKnowledge: I see, I guess I could try.
[07:56] <r0tha> tab tab tab
[07:56] <fishbait> hmm mang0 try that same boot device in another pc if it doesn't work there its the device not the pc
[07:57] <mang0> fishbait: I'm gonna try removing the ability to boot from other devices first, then I'll try a different PC
[07:57] <fishbait> yep try em in that order
[07:58] <usr13_> mang0: good idea
[07:59] <kristof> anyone know an easy way to convert VRO to AVI or VOB?
[07:59] <andrewh192> ok, that's kewl.. it works.. but really slow
[08:00] <bazhang> kristof, tried Handbrake?
[08:00] <andrewh192> lates guys
[08:00] <kristof> bazhang, no, I'll take a look, thanks
[08:03] <faza> i have download skype bout i got this error Wrong architecture 'i386'
[08:03] <usr13_> kristof:  dvd-vr  http://www.pixelbeat.org/programs/dvd-vr/
[08:04] <usr13_> faza: uname -a
[08:04] <faza> what user13?
[08:04] <kristof> usr13: that looks exactly what I was looking for, ty
[08:04] <usr13_> faza: Is your OS 32bit or 64?
[08:04] <usr13_> kristof: NP
[08:04] <LinuxVertigo> how do I load the second disk of MW3 into wine?
[08:04] <mang0> usr13, fishbait, kristof: Fixed it!
[08:05] <usr13_> mang0: Awesome....
[08:05] <mang0> usr13, fishbait, kristof: I had to turn on "USB Legacy Support" which is supoosed to be on by default
[08:05] <kristof> mang0, by disabling the other devices?
[08:05] <mang0> I also had to change some weird boot order I hadn't seen...the HDD was at the top of the list,  had to move "bootable cards" up
[08:05] <usr13_> aaahhh... Thanks for info mang0
[08:05] <kristof> glad you figured it out
[08:06] <mang0> It was in some weird menu that I don't know how I got to, but either way it works!
[08:06] <mang0> Thanks for your help ( HiddenKnowledge too)
[08:06] <usr13_> mang0: Yea, sometimes you have to fish around a bit.  Our modern PCs sometimes have a pretty sophistocated BIOS
[08:06] <Guegjk> hu
[08:06] <Guegjk> hi
[08:07] <Guegjk> anyone good in tennis?
[08:07] <mang0> usr13: Yeah apparantly so. Everything was so simple in my old MB's BIOS! :)
[08:07] <usr13_> *sophisticated
[08:07] <mang0> !ot | Guegjk
[08:07] <mang0> That said, I do play tennis!
[08:08] <Halitus> hi all can any one help with some mdadm issues?
[08:09] <faza> user13 how do i find that
[08:10] <usr13_> Halitus: http://blog.neolocus.com/2012/04/ubuntu-12-04-lts-and-soft-raid-with-mdadm/
[08:10] <faza> that for me?
[08:10] <Halitus> will read cheers
[08:10] <Halitus> no for me
[08:10] <usr13_> faza: uname -a
[08:11] <faza> how do i find that
[08:11] <Guegjk> hm
[08:11] <faza> the 32or64 bit
[08:11] <bazhang> faza type that in a terminal
[08:12] <diverdude> Why do i sometimes have to write the command synclient TouchpadOff=1 to turn off the touchpad? It seems completely random how many times I have to write the command before it works - sometimes 1 time, sometimes 8 times , sometimes 4 etc. ???
[08:12] <faza> its 34 bit
[08:12] <faza> 64
[08:14] <faza> user13
[08:15] <usr13_> faza: If you have a 64bit system, you have to install 64bit app
[08:15] <usr13_> faza: unless you do multilib
[08:16] <faza> okey but i didn't  see the suggestion
[08:16] <geirha> faza: Why don't you just install it via the software center?
[08:16] <faza> so i can search for slype
[08:16] <bazhang> !info skype partner | faza geirha
[08:16] <Guegjk> hu
[08:16] <Guegjk> hi
[08:17] <bazhang> Guegjk, ubuntu support question?
[08:17] <faza> thanks
[08:17] <bazhang> faza, as you see the partner repo only has the 32 bit skype
[08:17] <Guegjk> hm
[08:18] <faza> is there any itunes version for ubuntu ultmate
[08:18] <bazhang> faza, are you using ultimate?
[08:18] <faza> yes
[08:18] <bazhang> faza, thats not supported here
[08:18] <faza> why?
[08:18] <Guegjk> banshee
[08:18] <Guegjk> vlc
[08:18] <Guegjk> to nane a few
[08:18] <Guegjk> name
[08:18] <bazhang> Guegjk, whats the exact question
[08:19] <bazhang> !ultimate | faza
[08:19] <susundberg> wait what, i am using skype from partner repo with 64b ubuntu
[08:20] <geirha> Ouch, that factoid's too long
[08:20] <usr13_> susundberg: multilib ?
[08:20] <faza> so do i have to get ubuntu
[08:20] <bazhang> faza, to get support here: Yes
[08:20] <usr13_> faza: Only if you want to.
[08:20] <faza> thanks for your time
[08:21] <usr13_> faza: Problem is, some of the info we give here will not be accurate for your system.
[08:21] <susundberg> usr13_: no, but native afaik: http://pastebin.com/TR4KLv7J
[08:21] <susundberg> usr13_: but i guess you were talking of something else ( sorry for not reading backlog)
[08:21] <faza> k i got that user13
[08:22] <usr13_> susundberg:  skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-0precise3_amd64.deb
[08:22] <usr13_> susundberg: You have a 64bit system.  Right?
[08:23] <susundberg> usr13_: yeah i do
[08:24] <usr13_> susundberg: Well, from the looks of the file-name, you have installed a 64bit version of skype.  Right?
[08:24] <susundberg> usr13_: yes, afaik i hav
[08:25] <Guegjk> hi
[08:26] <utopman> hi
[08:26] <usr13_> low
[08:26] <geirha> susundberg, usr13_: It's still 32-bit, but it depends on the right set of 32-bit libs to get it working on a 64-bit system
[08:26] <usr13_> o
[08:26] <HungryMan> Anyone know how I can delay a process from booting up if it's using a /init.d/ thing?
[08:26] <faza> unable to mount faza's iphone
[08:27] <bazhang> faza this is for ultimate. ultimate is NOT supported here
[08:28] <faza> no way i can fix it before  i move to ubuntu
[08:28] <geirha> faza: /join #UltimateEdition
[08:29] <usr13_> at any rate,, as I tried to explain to faza, he CAN install a 32bit app if he gets 32bit libraries for it, (or one that comes with them), which in this case, I suppose it does.  He can probably get it from his package manager, (more-than-likely same way susundberg did).
[08:29] <usr13_> Some just install a complete set of 32bit libraries...
[08:29] <usr13_> they call it multilib
[08:31] <timfrost> HungryMan: You can change the order in which it is processed by changing the sequencing number in the name in /etc/rc2.d or /etc/rc3.d ( eg /etc/rc2.d/S12process becomes /etc/rc2.d/S98process).  I don't know if this will  affect the order of upstart jobs
[08:32] <HungryMan> I'll give that a try
[08:32] <HungryMan> I have a process starting before apparmor, that's the issue
[08:34] <timfrost> HungryMan: what is the issue with the interaction between the process and apparmor?
[08:36] <usr13_> timfrost: I hope HungryMan let's us know if it works.
[08:37] <HungryMan> So how would I go about having my /init/x.conf use one of those others? Sorry, I had to restart
[08:37] <usr13_> timfrost: That is a question I'd like to know the answer to; If you can change the order that upstart loads just by changing file-names
[08:38] <timfrost> HungryMan:  what is the issue that you hav?
[08:38] <HungryMan> I created a script in /init/ that's starting up before apparmor so it's starting unconfined
[08:38] <HungryMan> restarting isn't really an option as it breaks the process
[08:39] <shutup> ?
[08:40] <usr13_> HungryMan: Did you put a symlink somewhere else?
[08:40] <HungryMan> i did ln -s to /lib/init/upstart-job
[08:40] <usr13_> HungryMan: Wait,.... if you put the script in /etc/init/  that's the wrong place, isnt' it?
[08:41] <usr13_> should be /etc/init.d/
[08:41] <HungryMan> oh, sorry, that's where it is
[08:41] <EnginA> how comprimised is a system whose etc backup is leaked ? :) which incldue /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[08:41] <HungryMan> I did this
[08:41] <HungryMan> 'sudo ln -s /lib/init/upstart-job /etc/init.d/dnscrypt-proxy'
[08:41] <usr13_> HungryMan: Ok
[08:41] <livingdaylight> guys, firefox integration into global menu is broken. Anyone know how to fix this?
[08:42] <geirha> EnginA: /etc/password is harmless, but if /etc/shadow has been leaked, you should have all users change their password
[08:42] <fidel_> livingdaylight: running latest versions?
[08:42] <livingdaylight> fidel_, yes
[08:42] <fidel_> livingdaylight: checked if there is already a bug reported?
[08:42] <livingdaylight> fidel_, checking forums and google for solutions
[08:43] <fidel_> if not - and you can reproduce the issue - consider reporting it using ubuntu-bug
[08:43] <EnginA> geirha: is the hashing still weak ? can it be attacked ?
[08:43] <Guest63125> hi buddy can i ask a question for network safety
[08:44] <livingdaylight> fidel_, trying to get my problem fixed but you're soliciting I post bugs?
[08:44] <Guest63125> who can help me t o secure my email
[08:44] <geirha> EnginA: Not sure what the default hash is now, but no matter how long it is, I wouldn't bet on it never being cracked
[08:45] <EnginA> ok, those two are the first things i coudl think of, anything from top of your heads that could be important in /etc/* ?
[08:45] <fidel_> livingdaylight: no - i advice you to report the issue - if there is a one which is reproduceable. thats the way how devs get info about nugs/issues in the first place ;)
[08:45] <fidel_> apart fro mthat i cant help you as i dont use that global menu myself
[08:46] <geirha> EnginA: Anything not world readable. Some config files contain passwords too
[08:46] <EnginA> the thing is, proftpd's DefaultRoot option was DISABLED by default in ubuntu! and from transfer logs i can see that one (naive and harmless) user downloaded ETC backup tarball.
[08:46] <HungryMan> so anyone have any idea how I can ge tthis process confined?
[08:46] <EnginA> I don't think he'd do anything... but... I want to see the odds
[08:46] <Guest63125> hi admin
[08:46] <timfrost> HungryMan: usr13_:  a symlink to /lib/init/upstart-job needs to be in /etc/rc2.d or /etc/rc3.d as Sxx..... to be processed by the traditional init process.  Symlinks in /etc/init.d won't have the same effect.  /etc/init.d is where a traditional script would be installed, with symlinks named Sxx... or Kxx.... to start (Sxx) or stop (Kxx) the job in given run levels (the x in RCx.d)
[08:47] <geirha> EnginA: Ouch, best not keep backups in world readable directories anymore :)
[08:47] <usr13_> HungryMan: update-rc.d
[08:47] <HungryMan> But the process *is* starting up.
[08:48] <HungryMan> how would I use it in this case?
[08:48] <HungryMan> I was goin to try restarting the process with rc.local but it breaks it/ can't seem to get it working
[08:48] <usr13_> timfrost: Yea, so use a file-name that will order it...?
[08:48] <usr13_> HungryMan: It breaks what?
[08:48] <HungryMan> dnscrpyt
[08:48] <HungryMan> and all dns resolutions
[08:49] <HungryMan> It needs to be started with a series of parameters so that it works and they don't seem to work with rc.local
[08:49] <HungryMan> http://linuxaria.com/howto/dnscrypt-crypt-your-dns-request?lang=en
[08:49] <HungryMan> I  used that guide but I started at creating a user account
[08:49] <EnginA> geirha: well... it's a complicated scneario but, yeah, you are right. crontab is taking backups to /home/backup and remote hosts are rsyncing some backups to there too. so it has to be written by a few users.
[08:50] <EnginA> or I should add root (crontab) to backup group
[08:50] <geirha> EnginA: Yeah, use group ownership to limit access only to the users that need access
[08:52] <timfrost>  usr13_:  I don't know. I haven't dealt with upstart enough.  The naming of files works for the older inti system, but if upstart is processing a configuration file (or looking in a directory) that HungryMan isn't correctly updating, that could be the issue
[08:52] <EnginA> geirha: btw, any sensible explanation why DefaultRoot is not enabled in ProFTPd by default ?
[08:52] <EnginA> I totally was expecting so...
[08:52] <geirha> EnginA: No, I stay far away from ftp
[08:53] <HungryMan> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=221667&d=1343026975
[08:53] <HungryMan> You can see there that dnscrypt-proxy starts before the apparmor_parser
[08:53] <EnginA> well, it's ubiquitous :)
[08:54] <usr13_> HungryMan: Why can't you start it in rc.local?
[08:55] <HungryMan> I can't get it to start and use the parameters
[08:55] <HungryMan> it needs those parameters or it doesn't function
[08:55] <usr13_> what happens?
[08:55] <HungryMan> no dns resolution
[08:55] <HungryMan> exec /usr/sbin/dnscrypt-proxy -a <IP_ADDRESS> –edns-payload-size=4096 –pidfile=/run/dnscrypt-proxy.pid –resolver-port=443 –local-port=53 –tcp-only –user=dnscrypt
[08:55] <HungryMan> That's what it uses
[08:55] <usr13_> <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:55] <HungryMan> Yeah
[08:56] <HungryMan> Ubuntu has a DNS cache on .1 so it needs ot use .2
[08:56] <usr13_> o
[08:57] <usr13_> so does it work if you just start it manually?
[08:57] <HungryMan> nope, it doesn't work
[08:57] <HungryMan> It only works when I boot up
[08:57] <HungryMan> but if I do "restart dnscrypt-proxy" it breaks
[08:58] <usr13_> It says... "After this you'll have to setup your network connection, changing the DNS namserver to <IP_ADDRESS>"  ...?
[08:58] <HungryMan> That's for non-Ubuntu distros
[08:58] <HungryMan> Ubuntu 12.04 added a DNS resolution cache at <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:59] <usr13_> o
[08:59] <mang0_> Heya, I'm installing ubuntu 12.04 64-bit, and I have a 250GB HDD that I'm using as my install disk. However, I need to re-partition it; it already has Ubuntu 8.04 on it with a swap partition and a 25GB partition. I want to make it into one partition, and install into that. (I know I need swap and stuff, but you know what I mean...). How can I do this?  http://ompldr.org/iZXU0aw is what I'm currently seeing.
[09:00] <mang0_> Ignore /dev/sdb.
[09:00] <usr13_> HungryMan: Well, it just says:  "add this line to your /etc/rc.local file: /usr/sbin/dnscrypt-proxy --daemonize"
[09:00] <HungryMan> Yeah, that's also for non ubuntu distros
[09:00] <usr13_> HungryMan: So starting it last is what you want.
[09:00] <HungryMan> I've tried
[09:00] <HungryMan> Last or at least just after Apparmor
[09:01] <HungryMan> if I can get apparmor to start earlier, that works great
[09:01] <usr13_> I just think you don't have something configured right...
[09:01] <HungryMan> maybe
[09:01] <HungryMan> I messed around with it a lot
[09:01] <APinochet> Niggers are a plague that must be eliminated!
[09:01] <HungryMan> if I couuld undo everything it would make my life easier
[09:02] <APinochet> That is why I am a member of a forum called chimpout!
[09:02] <compdoc> they dont allow chimps?
[09:02] <Tm_T> compdoc: ignore trolls
[09:02] <compdoc> thats jus crazy
[09:02] <HungryMan> I'm gonna experiment i may get cut off but likely not since it's just dns
[09:04] <HungryMan> hm did I get cut off?
[09:04] <Tm_T> no?
[09:04] <robot-beethoven> hmm... i'm trying to edit a file on a borked linux partition, but when i tru to sudo-edit the file, sudo gives me: unable to change to sudoers gid: Operation not permitted
[09:04] <HungryMan> using <IP_ADDRESS> doesn't work for me either
[09:04] <tking> hi guys i am getting this error Could not find "/home/tking/Documents". i dont know why
[09:05] <tking> i cant open my documents folder
[09:05] <compdoc> robot-beethoven, can you copy the file elsewhere?
[09:06] <robot-beethoven> i need to change it on the partition, since the partition has a borked boot
[09:06] <HungryMan> yeah, internet's all broken now
[09:06] <HungryMan> ill be back in like 30 seconds
[09:06] <Vegetablesalad> good morning! Just a quick question, how do I install library’s for use in c/cpp. I have *.so.o files, should I just drop them in /usr/lib and that's it ?
[09:07] <HungryMan> and back
[09:08] <yandex3829> Vegetablesalad: I suggest reading a good book on C development, such as C Programming language by K&R. Otherwise you'll run into lots of these beginner issues
[09:12] <progre55> hi guys! I'm trying to write an init.d script. The thing is, my deamon needs to be able to restart itself from time to time, and it issues a command like "service mydeamon restart". However, the restart doesnt work, because it dies after the "stop" phase :) any suggestions, please? I'm using the start-stop-deamon btw
[09:12] <usr13_> HungryMan: What does /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf look like?
[09:13] <usr13_> HungryMan: What broke?
[09:13] <HungryMan> ill have a look at it now
[09:13] <geirha> progre55: Have the daemon exec() itself instead
[09:14] <HungryMan> http://pastebin.com/d2iZ2vUM
[09:14] <geirha> progre55: Or fix the bug that requires it to restart in the first place
[09:14] <progre55> geirha, how should it exec() itself? the restart function just stops it and starts it again
[09:15] <geirha> progre55: What language is it written in?
[09:15] <cromag> hi, im trying to compile drivers for an LSI controller but i run into problems - i have created http://nopaste.dk/p13165 with some information, which i hope can help you, to help me :)
[09:15] <geirha> progre55: You certainly don't want the daemon to do anything with the init script
[09:16] <progre55> geirha: the deamon itself is a matlab compiled executable. the script is written in sh (or shell?)
[09:16] <usr13_> HungryMan: I do not understand the step to "disable the local resolver"
[09:17] <HungryMan> I think I may have been missing a parameter in rc.local
[09:18] <geirha> progre55: Ok, can't your matlab program just reset all its variables and such, then restart?
[09:18] <HungryMan> would i put "restart" in rc.local or "exec"
[09:18] <HungryMan> i guess ill find out in a second, brb
[09:18] <geirha> progre55: I mean, start over, without actually replacing itself or stopping and starting a new instance
[09:18] <progre55> geirha: it probably could, but I'm not responsible for the matlab code, and our matlab developer is a little stubborn =)
[09:19] <geirha> progre55: your matlab developer is a sysadmin's nightmare
[09:19] <supasnashbuhl> Hello, i need some help fixing a broken system update. It's my dad's pc which i upgraded to the latest ubuntu version (i'm an arch user myself, so i don't know which release this is) and, well the battery died during the update. And it seems that uml-utilities are causing some trouble. Maybe you can help me through this.
[09:20] <progre55> geirha: I know :) he just runs a bash command saying "service script_name restart" and doesnt want to change his code anymore..
[09:20] <HungryMan> eh exec didn't restart it
[09:20] <usr13_> HungryMan: I do not understand the step to "disable the local resolver" Because you never had dns=dnsmasq in NetworkManager.conf in the first place.
[09:20] <geirha> progre55: Well, you've already discovered why that won't work...
[09:21] <HungryMan> yeah I'd disabled it myself
[09:21] <HungryMan> a while back
[09:21] <usr13_> o
[09:22] <progre55> geirha: couldn't I start a new thread or something on a restart, so that when the matlab deamon is killed, the thread is still running and starts it back? I'm not really a sysadmin myself, just a java developer doing a sysadmin's work :)
[09:22]  * tMH is gone. nsf
[09:22] <usr13_> HungryMan: What did you have in there to start with?  (in rc.local)
[09:23] <geirha> progre55: You can background and disown it, but it may still randomly fail
[09:23] <HungryMan> nothing related at all
[09:23] <[diablo]><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:23] <andrewh192> Hey, I recently installed a drive into the computer that was orginally connected via usb...
[09:23] <HungryMan> creating a directory in ram basically
[09:23] <[diablo]> erm
[09:23] <HungryMan> that's all
[09:23] <[diablo]> damn it, sorry
[09:23] <supasnashbuhl> please? I'm happy to provide any additional info if you ask me to.
[09:23] <keirlav87> I've installed Ubuntu to D:/ - but accidentally not as a Dual Boot Install (as far as I can tell) - I can still see all of my windows folders on C:\  - is there a way to make the install dual boot, post installation?
[09:23] <andrewh192> I am having trouble locating it now, was wondering if it was because of some error on my part, or if i am just not looking in the right area for it
[09:24] <compdoc> megaraid_sas is part of mainstream Linux kernel and should be available in all current distributions
[09:24] <usr13_> HungryMan: No, I mean the line to start dnsscrypt
[09:24] <supasnashbuhl> kerilav87: muahhaha. It's better that way. :)
[09:24] <calin> hello
[09:24] <HungryMan> I wasn't using any line in rc.local to start it up
[09:24] <progre55> geirha: so I could write another script (a wrapper script around the deamon), and on restart, background it, right?
[09:24] <usr13_> HungryMan: I thought you tried it?
[09:24] <andrewh192> nevermind
[09:24] <andrewh192> gotit
[09:24] <HungryMan> it starts up throuhg the init.d or whatever, my rc.local wasn't used for it
[09:24] <HungryMan> oh
[09:24] <HungryMan> Yeah I just did
[09:24] <calin> how can i install xfce4 core without applications (after i will install terminator and so on)
[09:24] <HungryMan> exec "/usr/sbin/dnscrypt-proxy -a <IP_ADDRESS> --edns-payload-size=4096 --pidfile=/run/dnscrypt-proxy.pid --resolver-port=443 --local-port=53 --tcp-only --user=dnscrypt"
[09:25] <HungryMan> ill pastebin that next time
[09:25] <usr13_> HungryMan: Just use  /usr/sbin/dnscrypt-proxy --daemonize
[09:25] <HungryMan> that won't work, it'll default to <IP_ADDRESS>, which doesn't work for me, trust me I've tried switching to it
[09:26] <cfhowlett> keirlav87: does windows boot?
[09:26] <supasnashbuhl> kerilav87: no but jokes aside, you can fix it by restoring the mbr with a windows installation cd. google "restore mbr windows". But on the other hand, why would you..? :)
[09:26] <keirlav87> cfhowlett: that's what i'm trying to figure out :P
[09:26] <HungryMan> i  can add the parameter for <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:26] <HungryMan> brb
[09:26] <keirlav87> actually to be fair i'm quite happy with what i'm seeing at the moment
[09:26] <cfhowlett> keirlav87: reboot.  if you get the grub menu, choose windows ...
[09:27] <usr13_> HungryMan: pastebinit /usr/sbin/dynscrypt-proxy
[09:27] <keirlav87> it's just this is my work machine and i'm not sure whether Ubuntu will fit into our AD network ? :O
[09:27] <geirha> progre55: He even hardcoded that command in the code?
[09:27] <supasnashbuhl> keirlav87: might be that the grub timeout or whatchacallit is set to 0 or something..
[09:27] <keirlav87> cfhowlett: i'll try that now, thanks
[09:27] <usr13_> HiddenKnowledge: ls -l /usr/sbin/dynscrypt-proxy  #Show me...
[09:27] <HungryMan> ok well it didn't break anything but i dont know if it did anything
[09:28] <HungryMan> still unconfined - I think I need ot disable the init.d script first
[09:28] <supasnashbuhl> but guys.. please i really need help with that interrupted update..
[09:28] <HungryMan> how can I do that? just move it out of that folder?
[09:28] <keirlav87> brb guys thanks for the advice
[09:29] <tux_king> hi
[09:30] <progre55> geirha: yep :)
[09:30] <progre55> geirha: but I could talk him into changing it a little, if necessary. But not into resetting all the matlab variables, etc.
[09:30] <usr13_> supasnashbuhl: What happened?
[09:30] <supasnashbuhl> battery died
[09:31] <usr13_> supasnashbuhl: That's bad.  I really don't know. That is a tough one.
[09:31] <lukicat> hey, may some1 assist me to remove crazy flickering of an intel gma500 on ubuntu 12.04? =/
[09:31] <supasnashbuhl> but i'm onto it.. i just removed uml-utilities and reinstalled. (it was having some problems before)
[09:32] <geirha> progre55: Most languages has a wrapper for the exec system call. I don't know if matlab has that, but if it does, that'll be a much saner thing to do.
[09:32] <usr13_> supasnashbuhl: It wasn't a distribution upgrade was it?
[09:32] <supasnashbuhl> yupp
[09:32] <usr13_> supasnashbuhl:  It was?...
[09:32] <usr13_> wow
[09:32] <supasnashbuhl> god i love arch for that..
[09:32] <usr13_> arch?
[09:32] <supasnashbuhl> rolling release is a bliss
[09:32] <keirlav87> ah yeah the dual boot option is available on restart, thanks for the advice guys
[09:32] <supasnashbuhl> archlinux
[09:32] <progre55> geirha: arright, let me try googling to see if there's anything like that for matlab
[09:33] <HungryMan> i tried update-rc.d dnscrypt-proxy remove
[09:33] <usr13_> supasnashbuhl: You will probably need to re-install.
[09:33] <HungryMan> it's still starting up at boot
[09:33] <RoSSoScript113> salve
[09:33] <supasnashbuhl> if you're familiar with linux in general arch linux is the way to go. My dad's a complete n00b who can't use a single terminal command so ubuntu was the best option i guess
[09:33] <RoSSoScript113> !lista
[09:34] <supasnashbuhl> well, i still have hope.. apt-get upgrade is running now.. let's see what happens
[09:34] <usr13_> HungryMan: I would just start over.  Follow the instructions just ast they are and see where it went wrong.
[09:34] <HungryMan> yeah it's late now, I'll give it a shot tomorrow
[09:34] <HungryMan> things for the help though
[09:34] <usr13_> ok
[09:34] <HungryMan> night/morning/whichever it is for you
[09:35] <usr13_> morning...
[09:36] <lukicat> anyone knows how to solve flickering of ubuntu 12.04 on intel gma500?
[09:36] <tux_king> hi
[09:37] <amagee> hey i installed ubuntu 12.04 on a new machine last night and it installed successfully  but didn't seem to affect the boot loader (when i boot it always boots to windows without asking) so i need to somehow install grub manually.  i'm currently logged into the live cd ubuntu.  can anyone help?
[09:38] <usr13_>  amagee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[09:38] <amagee> also can anyone explain why i can't seem to find a dvorak layout in "keyboard layouts"
[09:38] <supasnashbuhl> AND arch linux has like the best wiki on earth, and the coolest irc channel :P Topic is: "Arch linux world domination". :D If you haven't heard of it, google it, it's awesome. The concept of a rolling release is just so great. AND there is AUR (a community repo for like every program you could imagine running on linux) No more ./configure make make install. Lol i sound like someone trying to convert people to my religion. But serio
[09:39] <DJones> supasnashbuhl: Don't spam
[09:39] <supasnashbuhl> :P
[09:39] <supasnashbuhl> I don't get paid
[09:39] <amagee> there are only four layouts: english {US|Cameroon|UK|Ghana}
[09:39] <cfhowlett> supasnashbuhl: thanks but this is ubuntu support.  Perhaps you'd like to try a different channel?
[09:39] <usr13_> amagee: You probably did not tell it to install the bootloader to the MBR of the primary drive.
[09:39] <kaoruchan> hi guys im a newbie here. can i ask something ?
[09:39] <supasnashbuhl> you're right i'm trailing off
[09:39] <supasnashbuhl> kaoruchan: ask
[09:39] <cfhowlett> !ask|kaoruchan:
[09:40] <usr13_> kaoruchan: Short answer is;  Yes
[09:41] <keirlav87> can anyone recommend a good ubuntu alternative for notepad++?
[09:41] <supasnashbuhl> gedit
[09:41] <kaoruchan> how to reboot or shutdown properly? seems like i cant shutdown or reboot
[09:41] <supasnashbuhl> emacs
[09:41] <kaoruchan> sorry.. just being so polite :D
[09:41] <fidel_> keirlav87: depends - personaly i love sublime text - but it comes with a pretty special license situation ;)
[09:42] <Kyle|PowerPC> kaoruchan, reboot
[09:42] <Kyle|PowerPC> or halt
[09:42] <kaoruchan> Usr1_ hehe
[09:42] <fidel_> kaoruchan: the question is: how do you try to reboot in the first place?
[09:42] <rajumoh> kaoruchan: if every thing else fails #init 0 to halt and #init 6 to reboot
[09:42] <usr13_> kaoruchan: what seems to be the problem?
[09:42] <supasnashbuhl> keirlav87 have you tried gedit already. It has some syntax highlighting.
[09:43] <usr13_> supasnashbuhl: vi
[09:43] <supasnashbuhl> usr13: nope.. emacs :)
[09:43] <morsnowski> keirlav87, geany is nice
[09:43] <usr13_> supasnashbuhl: Maybe you need to tell us what you want to do.
[09:43] <usr13_> supasnashbuhl: I use vim
[09:44] <supasnashbuhl> huh? I'm just suggesting editors for keirlav87
[09:44] <usr13_> mostly
[09:44] <usr13_> Oh... wrong nic?
[09:44] <morsnowski> no i screwed up
[09:44] <keirlav87> I tried gedit, acouple of little things nag me, like curly brace and bracket highlighting etc, only tiny things but when you're looking for that stray brace it's a godsend :P
[09:45] <usr13_> keirlav87: vim
[09:45] <morsnowski> now i'm confused ...
[09:45]  * morsnowski goes back to slee
[09:45] <morsnowski> sleep
[09:45] <usr13_> keirlav87: vi
[09:46] <kaoruchan> thanks ill try that
[09:46] <kaoruchan> Fidel_ the usual way.. on the top.. i using 12.04.. and a year ago i used 10.04 seems no problem to me.. but now im getting a hard time to rebot or shutting down. coz it takes forever
[09:47] <fidel_> kaoruchan: using the top tells amlost nothing - as it depends on your envvironment - i.e. using kde or gnome or ....
[09:47] <fidel_> kaoruchan: in addition: is there any error output - or does just nothing happen
[09:47] <usr13_> keirlav87: vimtutor  #To learn...
[09:47] <fidel_> try to describe your issue better - otherwise we need to ask - and asking to offer help isnt perfect ;)
[09:47] <amagee> Boot repair app: "Please  open a terminal and type the following commands"... isn't that what i installed this app for? :S
[09:49] <usr13_> keirlav87: Two or three half hour sessions with vimtutor and you'll be off and running.
[09:49] <geirha> keirlav87: vim has a steep learning curve. I find this explains how you get into vim fairly well http://rudism.com/s/vimcreep
[09:50] <usr13_> keirlav87: Try it.  You'll be glad you did.
[09:50] <kaoruchan> sry fidel. im using gnome
[09:50] <amagee> i've traditionally been a vim user but i'm slowly moving to emacs + evil
[09:50] <usr13_> amagee: really...?
[09:51] <keirlav87> will do guys, thanks :)
[09:51] <kaoruchan> fidel it does shutdown but pausing on the spash screen of ubuntu
[09:51] <amagee> gives the best of both worlds -- vim key bindings and modal editing with emacs power and scriptability
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> kaoruchan  type sudo shutdown -h now    the next time it will shutdown as it should be
[09:53] <amagee> ok rebooting now, wish me luck! thanks for your help :)
[09:53] <RoSSoScript113> salve
[09:53] <RoSSoScript113> !lista
[09:53] <antivenom_02> kaoruchan halt command is not exactly for shutting down the system
[09:54] <keirlav87> Am I cut out for Vim, I can't even figure out how to install it lol
[09:54] <geirha> keirlav87: sudo apt-get install vim-gnome
[09:55] <supasnashbuhl> keirlav87: no just do sudo apt-get install emacs
[09:55] <supasnashbuhl> ;)
[09:56] <RoSSoScript113> salve
[09:56] <himanshu_m786> is there any bot ?
[09:56] <RoSSoScript113> !lista
[09:56] <keirlav87> lol, I apologies for asking for the baby steps, but i've only had ubuntu on my machine for about half an hour - where do I need to put that command?
[09:56] <supasnashbuhl> the learning curve for emacs isn't as steep as with vim. But this is possibly a very important desicion. It's either vim or emacs, there's no inbetween.
[09:56] <LinuxVertigo> isn't it strange that Modern Warfare 3 is installing seemingly fine straight from an .exe file as opposed to Wine?
[09:56] <supasnashbuhl> wtf coprophagiac???
[09:56] <amagee> hey thanks guys.. my grub is working now :D
[09:56] <LinuxVertigo> well  hail Mary
[09:56] <joosengee> How to block mac-address of pc to not get ip from dhcp server?
[09:57] <keirlav87> ah its ok i found the terminal
[09:57] <supasnashbuhl> Why isnt that guy banned from like every irc channel on earth
[09:57] <joosengee> Have the method or not?
[09:57] <joosengee> someone have the method or not ?
[09:57] <LinuxVertigo> can ubuntu generally run .exe files?
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> LinuxVertigo  nu, exe is for some other OS
[09:58] <joosengee> please
[09:58] <himanshu_m786> wine can run exe file
[09:58] <supasnashbuhl> please someone ban that guy. I'm not black but i still feel offendet
[09:58] <keirlav87> does anyone find dual screen sticks on the left hand edge of the right screen?
[09:58] <supasnashbuhl> *offended
[09:58] <compdoc> which guy offends you?
[09:58] <LinuxVertigo> maybe it's integrated (wine) as I just ran setup.exe and it seems fine
[09:58] <supasnashbuhl> coprophagiac
[09:59] <susundberg> LinuxVertigo: Yes you can run them but you need 'windows emulator' wine
[09:59] <supasnashbuhl> check his status
[09:59] <compdoc> oh, heh
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> supasnashbuhl  no swearing here
[09:59] <supasnashbuhl> who swears?
[09:59] <supasnashbuhl> i'm not
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> supasnashbuhl  that word you used
[09:59] <keirlav87> wtf?
[09:59] <supasnashbuhl> what word??
[09:59] <supasnashbuhl> lol
[09:59] <kaoruchan> sry was discnnected
[09:59] <LinuxVertigo> I have a device named Hare Krsna and it's going to program Windows for me
[09:59] <supasnashbuhl> that's an abbrevation
[09:59] <LjL> MonkeyDust: it was a nickname
[09:59] <LjL> supasnashbuhl: they're already banned
[10:00] <supasnashbuhl> ok cool
[10:00] <supasnashbuhl> people like that make me sick.
[10:00] <himanshu_m786> LinuxVertigo : what does it do ?
[10:01] <LinuxVertigo> it collapses system mainframes into one style
[10:01] <supasnashbuhl> oh well the upgrade went well after all. (after reinstalling uml-utilities) I'll reboot now. Byebye
[10:01] <joosengee> help me!!!
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> joosengee: wassup?
[10:02] <LinuxVertigo> you have one chance
[10:02] <LinuxVertigo> I have to stop i'm going to get banned
[10:02] <cfhowlett> joosengee: hmm.  Most people try "Hello."  first
[10:02] <kaoruchan> fidel_ i was dc'd ..again uusing 12.04 ubuntu gnome. having a proble on shutdown that causing the splash screen to hang.. then dont do shutdown.. i always push the pwer button just to shut down
[10:02] <joosengee> I need to block the mac address not get ip from server.
[10:03] <joosengee> dhap ?
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> kaoruchan  have you tried 'sudo shutdown -h now' ?
[10:03] <andrewh192> hey, was wondering when i go to "network drives", in the "Go" menu, my other computer on the same network doesn't show up, and was wondering whu
[10:03] <andrewh192> why
[10:03] <himanshu_m786> kaoruchan :  i too had problem with the gnome . it disturbes the unity .
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: are they sharing with samba?
[10:04] <himanshu_m786> kaoruchan :  have you tried the sudo shutdown now in terminal or shell
[10:04] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: well, i don't know, i am using whatever it is that is installed on the computer already
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: if you run:  smbtree    do you see the shares?
[10:04] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: i haven't tried that
[10:05] <andrewh192> i don't have that...
[10:05] <himanshu_m786> i have any one used fogger ?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> himanshu_m786: I know of it, looks fairly pointless
[10:05] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: it says that "Failed to execute child process"
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[10:06] <himanshu_m786> ActionParsnip : tough user will say it pointless but it is nice and for normal user .
[10:07] <himanshu_m786> ActionParsnip : means for new user .
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> himanshu_m786: you can do what it does already with web apps in Chrome/ium
[10:07] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: precise
[10:08] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: its actually the lubuntu 12.04 distribution
[10:08] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: not sure if that makes any difference, but just thought i would mention in case it does
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: good enough. Lubuntu rocks :)
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: can you ping the server by name and/or IP?
[10:08] <himanshu_m786> ActionParsnip : you know ,chromium takes much of ram for work . but it is innovative work .
[10:09] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: what server?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> himanshu_m786: never had an issue with RAM in Chromium
[10:09] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: i mean any server, or one in particular?
[10:09] <himanshu_m786> ActionParsnip : me too . i mean to say that chrome uses much of ram .
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> himanshu_m786: RAM is cheap now
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: the server you want to connect to. Can you ping it from the client system
[10:11] <Bert_2> Hi, is there a way to upgrade from 6.06 or 8.04 to 12.04 or will we have to hop by all LTSes (upgrade in LTS steps) ?
[10:11] <himanshu_m786> ActionParsnip : i want to ask that right now it is available for facebook and wunderlist . can i modify for others too ?
[10:11] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: well, i don't have a "server" persay, just have one other computer i would like to share files with
[10:11] <himanshu_m786> ActionParsnip : with logo too
[10:11] <cfhowlett> berkes: LTS to LTS.
[10:12] <berkes> huh?
[10:12] <himanshu_m786> andrewh192 : for sharing files ? use samba ..
[10:12] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: ok, i have to install it, or isn't already installed?
[10:13] <berkes> cfhowlett, guess that was for Bert_2, not?
[10:13] <cfhowlett> berkes: yikes.  autocomplete nick error.  sorry
[10:13] <cfhowlett> Bert_2: LTS to LTS hop should work.
[10:14] <noxville> Hello, I have just added another monitor to my desktop (I had 2 - one broke, replaced by this new one). Both are LG's, one's a LED, one's a normal flatron LCD. I've configured both via nvidia-settings to make them both 1920x1200 (supported according to each monitors specs). I restart X (via service gdm restart), but when I login again, the top bar on one monitor (which I'd have the time, user panel, etc) starts flickering, and fails to load. Icons don
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: sudo apt-get install smbclient   should do it
[10:15] <andrewh192> ActionParsnip: ok, kewl, thanx
[10:15] <Bert_2> cfhowlett: thx, I guess our firewall server is getting a fresh install then (hops from 6.06 seem a bit daft)
[10:15] <LinuxVertigo> I just made xchat fullscreen how do i undo this?
[10:16] <Hertz> LinuxVertigo, F11?
[10:16] <LinuxVertigo> ty
[10:16] <cfhowlett> Bert_2: good luck.
[10:16] <himanshu_m786> ActionParsnip :
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> himanshu_m786: no idea, as I said; I've only heard of it. I don't use it
[10:17] <himanshu_m786> ActionParsnip : ok
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> himanshu_m786: I'd contact the developer
[10:19] <ikonia> exit
[10:19] <ikonia> oops
[10:19] <ikonia> sorry
[10:20] <SimonUK> Hi.    Damn niggers right?
[10:21] <Chimpout> I am too!
[10:21] <FloodBot1> Chimpout: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:21] <btral1> hi
[10:22] <btral1> please see my linkhttp://pastebin.com/1pMTExsY.
[10:22] <btral1> how change my pidfile name
[10:22] <LinuxVertigo> how do i minimize xchat? I can't see the button at the top of the screen
[10:22] <hazamonzo_> Hey folks. Just installed a wireless PCI card. The card has been picked up but it can't find any networks. How might i go about getting the latest driver for this network card?
[10:22] <hazamonzo_> I used a much older PCI wireless card in this desktop and it worked. maybe this new wireless card is using the driver for th old card?
[10:23] <Hertz> LinuxVertigo, :D
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> hazamonzo_: what wifi chip does it use?
[10:24] <LinuxVertigo> this does not complete me
[10:24] <hazamonzo_> ActionParsnip: hey man. How can i tell?
[10:24] <LinuxVertigo> i was doing it earlier when there was a button
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> hazamonzo_: sudo lshw -C network    will tell you
[10:25] <geirha> LinuxVertigo: If it's maximized, the buttons will be on the left side of the menu bar at the top
[10:26] <hazamonzo_> ActionParsnip: PCI (sysfs)
[10:26] <LinuxVertigo> geirha they were there earlier now theres a label "XChat-Gnome IRC Chat" in the way
[10:26] <hazamonzo_> hmm
[10:26] <hazamonzo_> wait. lots of stuff
[10:26] <geirha> LinuxVertigo: It should change when you hover the mouse over it
[10:26] <hazamonzo_> ActionParsnip: Full output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1106183/
[10:27] <LinuxVertigo> geirha it does change except the XChat part which is covering the buttons
[10:27] <LinuxVertigo> I was doing it earlier no problems
[10:28] <hazamonzo_> ActionParsnip: Its Network 0
[10:28] <LinuxVertigo> wth now terminal doesn't even have a title bar
[10:28] <LinuxVertigo> please help
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> hazamonzo_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[10:29] <hazamonzo_> ActionParsnip: natty
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> is natty supported?
[10:30] <keirlav87> so i installed vim using the sudo command in terminal, where will I find this elusive creature now :P?
[10:30] <Porchmonkeys> I am fucking sick and tired of those god damn niggers
[10:30] <Porchmonkeys> they are the scourge of humanity
[10:30] <Porchmonkeys> that is why I am a member of a special forum callec Chimpout Forum
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> hazamonzo_: have you tried it in Precise liveCD? Natty is nearly EOL (October this year)
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> keirlav87: just type it's name and hit enter
[10:31] <LinuxVertigo> where are my title bars gone?
[10:31] <hazamonzo_> ActionParsnip: not yet. But i have a copy. I'll give it a try
[10:31] <Wug> DJones: out of curiosity
[10:31] <hazamonzo_> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help. I jave to run :(
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> hazamonzo_: the later kernel may make it work out of the box
[10:32] <Wug> or are you a bot
[10:32] <Wug> can never be sure
[10:32] <DJones> Wug: Nope, not a bot :)
[10:32] <Wug> silly freenode mentality
[10:32] <Wug> why don't you just use chanserv for everything
[10:32] <keirlav87> looks pretty intense :P wheres my nice cosy gui that does everything for me ?
[10:33] <Wug> .......
[10:33] <Wug> freenode is such a backwards place
[10:33] <Wug> (I understand why now)
[10:34] <morsnowski> keirlav87, i still suggest geany ...
[10:34] <Myrtti> Wug: why would we use chanserv for everything?
[10:34] <Wug> well
[10:34] <Myrtti> Wug: nevermind, it's not a discussion to be had here anyway
[10:34] <Wug> typical freenode practice is to never have ops anywhere
[10:35] <Myrtti> Wug: feel free to continue it in #ubuntu-ops or -irc
[10:35] <keirlav87> I think that may be best at this point, I don't think justifying the learning curve that vim clearly demands will go down well with my boss
[10:35] <Wug> its not really specific to this channe;
[10:35] <Wug> I'm more or less making itle chatter
[10:35] <DJones> Wug: Can you leave this channel for support questions, rather than chat, Thanks
[10:35] <PsychoX75> Hi guys. I'm looking for a Music Jukebox which I can instal on my ubuntu server and approach it from a web-interface.
[10:35] <Myrtti> Wug: and this channel is not for idle chatter, so please move it to said channels
[10:35] <Wug> ack
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> PsychoX75: vlc has a nice webui
[10:36] <PsychoX75> vlc u say?
[10:36] <PsychoX75> i have that installed on my machine already
[10:36] <SimonUK> PsychoX75 do you want the audio to come from the server or the browser?  Personally I use Serviio or TwonkyMedia as DLNA servers.
[10:36] <PsychoX75> oh... the audio has to come from the server.
[10:37] <PsychoX75> What i'm thinking off... is to make my Homeserver a Home-jukebox.
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> PsychoX75: or just run graphical apps using X forwarding, the sound will come from the server, but the display will show on the client
[10:37] <PsychoX75> Play music throughout Wireless Speakers in the hosue.
[10:37] <PsychoX75> Xforwarding?
[10:37] <Guest85560> hello. today i installed 12.04 on my laptop and wanted to play some games on facebook, but they don't work... they are 'wooga' games like 'diamond dash'. on 11.10 they worked
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> PsychoX75: yes, it's default enabled in openssh-server
[10:38] <PsychoX75> I dont want to install anything on the clinets. Just a webbased.
[10:38] <SimonUK> PsychoX75 ah OK, DLNA not quite so appropriate.  You want something like... actually, ActionParsnip is already ahead of me :)