[00:00] <downhill_> weellll, ahmos you could try restarting HAL then. /etc/init.d/hal restart
[00:00] <downhill_> thanks dr_willis :)
[00:00] <downhill_> could *swear* it was the fstab option. good to know.
[00:02] <dr_willis>    /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
[00:03] <ahmos> hold on going to try
[00:04] <downhill_> whoops
[00:04] <downhill_> that definitely was not firefox. heh
[00:05] <dr_willis> the 'user'  option in that fstab entry allows the user to mount/unmount the device
[00:05] <downhill_> yep
[00:05]  * dr_willis recalls when 'auto mounting ' of devices - was a tool on the desktop that gave you buttons to mount/unmount things..
[00:05] <dr_willis> :)
[00:05] <downhill_> yep yep, back in the day.
[00:06] <downhill_> I remember setting mode lines >.<
[00:06] <ahmos> every thing is perfect
[00:06] <downhill_> that did it, eh?
[00:07] <ahmos> yes
[00:07] <downhill_> excellent. now you know what to say if someone asks the same question ;)
[00:07] <downhill_> come to think of it, dr_willis, I remember restarting HAL for a wine-related problem a while back.
[00:07] <downhill_> thanks again.
[00:07] <ahmos> of course ;) but first thank you very much
[00:08] <downhill_> not a problem.
[00:08] <dr_willis> wine can have issues with installing multi-disk games.
[00:08] <downhill_> Wine can have issues. period.
[00:15] <Zehava> Kopete keeps poping up every time someone says something in a seperate window asking me to view or ignore....is there a way to make that stop??
[00:15] <Dragnslcr> Zehava- Settings -> Notifications
[00:15] <dr_willis> everytime someone says anything?
[00:16] <Omega_S> Hello, I just installed kubuntu on my Desktop... Does anyone else have an issue with icons in the bottom right bar becoming blue boxes and such?
[00:17] <Nomexous> Omega_S: KDE 4.1?
[00:18] <Omega_S> Nomexous: The latest version of Kubnutu 8.10 with all updates applied
[00:18] <Nomexous> Omega_S: Yeah, at the moment KDE 4.1 has some graphical issues
[00:18] <Omega_S> alright, just making sure its not me
[00:19] <downhill_> Omega_S; not you, fixed in 4.2.
[00:19] <downhill_> (that's due out later this month)
[00:19] <Zehava> no notifications in settings, but I'll keep looking
[00:19] <Omega_S> ah cool thanks guys
[00:19] <downhill_> Zehava; try looking in System Settings > Notifications, too. (Dunno if there's a kcm for that or not)
[00:19] <Nomexous> Omega_S: You can always get the KDE 4.2 beta if it bothers you too much
[00:19] <downhill_> cheers
[00:20] <downhill_> erm, RC1 is due out in 2 days and Beta 2 is quite buggy compared to a final release.
[00:20] <legodude> Omega_S: yes, 4.2 mostly fixed it for me
[00:20] <Omega_S> Thats true.... I'll see how long I can last until it really bothers me ;-)
[00:20] <downhill_> you've been warned. that said, it's always and option.
[00:20] <Nomexous> Omega_S: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2
[00:21] <Omega_S> Nomexous: Thanks!
[00:22] <mtanner> hello. I have a question about keyboard shortcuts in kubuntu/kde4 8.10...
[00:22] <Nomexous> mtanner: What it?
[00:22] <mtanner> anybody know in which disk file the keyboard shortcuts are kept?
[00:23] <mtanner> Because the System Settings -> Keyboard/Mouse app GUI doesn't seem to be working properly
[00:23] <Nomexous> mtanner: Lots of KDE 4.1 keyboard shortcuts don't work
[00:24] <mtanner> There are 3 different places in kde4 to set up keyboard shortcuts: System Settings -> KB/Mouse, Sys Settings -> Advanced -> input actions, and the kde menu editor
[00:25] <mtanner> They all seem to be conflicting with each other.  And when I tried to set up the shortcut in "Input Actions", it added about 8 new entries under "KB/Mouse"->"Keyboard Shortcuts".
[00:26] <mtanner> The specific keyboard shortcut I'm trying to set up is the one to start Konsole.
[00:26] <Nomexous> mtanner: Keyboard shortcuts didn't work for me at all
[00:26] <mtanner> Nomexous: hmmm.  I see.  Any known solutions?
[00:27] <Nomexous> mtanner: You could try upgrading to KDE 4.2 beta
[00:27] <Nomexous> mtanner: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2
[00:28] <mtanner> Nomexous: Is 4.2 beta known to work with the shortcuts?
[00:28] <Nomexous> mtanner: It worked for me. I was able to bind Konsole to Alt+F1.
[00:29] <Nomexous> mtanner: That was through the menu editor
[00:29] <mtanner> Nomexous: cool.  Thanks for the info.  I might try that in a while.
[00:30] <Nomexous> mtanner: No problem. Read the notes, though. 4.2 is still beta, so it might break some stuff.
[00:30] <mtanner> I was just trying to see if anyone happened to know the file the shortcuts are stored in, so I could try to remove all of the dud entries that "Input Actions" added to the "Keyboard Shortcuts" menu
[00:35] <booleancat> Anyone else having trouble with kio network slaves?
[00:35] <mtanner> Nomexous: thanks for the suggestion.  I gotta go eat dinner, and I'll contemplate the update to 4.2 beta later this evening
[00:35] <booleancat> Akregator and ktorrent both stopped working a little while ago...
[00:37] <booleancat> wait... maybe akregator is working now, but ktorrent is still broken
[00:46] <uninstalll> hi
[00:47] <uninstalll> how do a remove kde4 completely? I wanna start from scartch
[00:48] <uninstalll> so hello?
[00:48] <nazario> hi
[00:49] <uninstalll> then?
[00:50] <holycow> where does kde4 store its trash?
[00:50] <uninstalll> .Trash?
[00:51] <dr_willis> !trash
[00:51] <dr_willis> I aleays link .Trash to  .local/share/Trash :)
[00:51] <holycow> thank you
[00:52] <holycow> i'm just setting up some rsyncing ... so trash is now there
[00:52] <holycow> huh
[00:52] <holycow> what is .local for?
[00:52] <dr_willis> local user settings
[00:52] <uninstalll> how to remove kde?
[00:52] <dr_willis> better then having<PHONE_NUMBER>00 .whatever dirs
[00:52] <dr_willis> !puregnome
[00:52] <holycow> uh
[00:53] <holycow> dr_willis: is this an attempt to clean up ~/?
[00:53] <dr_willis> Yes
[00:53] <holycow> it seems to be everything has a . folder ... is this a new freedesktop.org idea?
[00:53] <dr_willis> now everyting is slowly moving to .local/folder
[00:53] <uninstalll> no I wanna install KDE again
[00:54] <holycow> dr_willis: oh neat i didnt' know that
[00:54] <holycow> that will help organize things a lot
[00:54] <dr_willis> uninstalll,  that wasent what you asked.. :)
[00:54] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop    to install kde
[00:55] <uninstalll> after uninstalling this though
[00:55] <uninstalll> thanks dr_willis
[00:55] <dr_willis> Not sure what youplainon gaining by Uninstalling/Installing KDE however...
[00:55] <dr_willis> thats 'windows' thinking ;)
[00:56] <uninstalll> lol
[00:56] <uninstalll> I am in kde now
[00:56] <uninstalll> will it disapear?
[00:57] <uninstalll> lmao
[00:57] <dr_willis> one way to find out
[00:57] <holycow> dr_willis: would you happen to know of any site i can read up on this?  freedesktop.org and google don't seem to indicate much  ... or just have a hard time search for a . file entry.  how is this design aspect being handled?
[00:57] <uninstalll> it did'n do shit
[00:57] <dr_willis> holycow,  not sure if its a freedesktop.org idea  but i think it is.
[00:58] <holycow> thx
[01:13] <ghostcube> hmm question if libGl.so is missing in /usr/lib/  which version should i take for compiling the nvidia-180-dev version or libgl1-mesa-dev
[01:13] <stodge> What is the default sound system in Kubuntu 8.04? Is it ALSA or PulseAudio?
[01:13] <darkdelusions> ALsa
[01:14] <darkdelusions> ghost give me a sec I just installed 180 this morning there is an ezer way of getting it
[01:16] <stodge> Thanks
[01:16] <darkdelusions> ghost check this out
[01:16] <darkdelusions> (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1002828
[01:16] <darkdelusions> thats how I did it ealier it should get any libs you might be missing
[01:16] <darkdelusions> just remember to remove the repo
[01:24] <ghostcube> is the nvidia-glx-xxx package removing libGl.so from /usr/lib ?
[01:24] <ghostcube> i have libgl1-mesa-dev installed and iam missing it
[01:25] <stnormal> is there a way to determine if I have 32bit GNU C compiler tools installed on my 64-bit Kubuntu install?
[01:30] <flakeparadigm> Hello
[01:31] <darkdelusions> ghostcube: i have libGL.so.180.11
[01:31] <darkdelusions> ghostcube: i have libGL.so.1
[01:32] <ghostcube> yeah but libGl.so is missing isnt it
[01:32] <ghostcube> i need it to build compiz and libgl1-mesa-dev should ship it
[01:32] <ghostcube> and this one is installed
[01:32] <ghostcube> so iam just wondering if the nvidia-180-dev package is needed
[01:32] <ghostcube> or if i have to reinstall libgl1-mesa-dev
[01:33] <flakeparadigm> my cd drive isn't working except for the first few minutes into using kubuntu
[01:34] <flakeparadigm> but they work just fine on the live CD
[01:35] <flakeparadigm> er, I have two cd drives. neither of them work for more that a few minutes after I boot up
[01:35] <flakeparadigm> but when I'm booted up into windows or on a live CD, everything works just fine
[01:36] <slarti> how do you make the taskbar autohide ?
I'm not sure if you can in kde 4's current release
[01:39] <slarti> i did it in jaunty  : )
[01:40] <flakeparadigm> it is probably using kde 4.2 beta
[01:41] <flakeparadigm> or what ever stage 4.2 is at
[01:41] <slarti> i want autohide in ibex !
[01:42] <ghostcube> get the beta release for ibex
[01:42] <ghostcube> :)
[01:42] <ghostcube> or wait till rc1 in two days
[01:44] <flakeparadigm> I would wait till rc1 ;)
[01:44] <lespea> does anybody know if/when they're planning on making their windows effects (rotate cube / etc) mappable to mouse buttons?
[01:44] <lespea> they == kde
[01:44] <rickey> i just downloaded kubuntu810 is it ready to go , i am haveing trouble upgradeing
[01:45] <ghostcube> works ok here
[01:45]  * slarti will wait for rc1
[01:46] <rickey> grost are you fully upgraded?
[01:46] <rickey> or are yopu on default
[01:46] <Adola> Ok.
[01:46] <DaSkreech> rickey: Upgrading to what?
[01:46] <DaSkreech> lespea: Huh?
[01:47] <Adola> I'm having a problem with Kopete.  I've asked in #kopete..But as always, It's dead.
[01:47] <draik> I'm trying to remove a few infected files from an XP laptop. I tried using Knoppix, but that did not work. Will using Kubuntu 8.10 let me mount the drive and remove the necessary files?
[01:47] <Adola> It will connect on Highspeed.  but not on Dial-up
[01:47] <ghostcube> draik, there is something called knoppicillin
[01:47] <Adola> I ran it in Terminal.  And got this
[01:47] <Adola> kopete(7145) Kopete::AccountManager::setOnlineStatus: category:  2
[01:47] <Adola> kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kwalletd
[01:47] <Adola> kopete(7145) KWalletDLauncher::getInterface: The kwalletd service has been registered
[01:47] <Adola> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-adam" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[01:47] <Adola> Error: "/tmp/kde-adam" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[01:47] <Adola> (That was when I pressed "connect"
[01:47] <ghostcube> with build in scanners
[01:47] <draik> !pastebin | Adola
[01:48] <ghostcube> rickey, u mean me ?
[01:48] <rickey> yes
[01:48] <ghostcube> iam ion fresh installed 8.10
[01:48] <ghostcube> with upadtes till yestrday
[01:48] <draik> ghostcube: Awesome. I've never heard of it. Sounds like something I need to add into my collection. I will look into it right now. Thanks!
[01:48] <rickey> dont upgrade
[01:49] <rickey> or you may hafe to downlooad again
[01:49] <rickey>  be carefull
[01:49] <ghostcube> rickey, to what 9.04 ?
[01:49] <rickey> to 810
[01:49] <ghostcube> i always update my distries but my hd crashed :D
[01:49] <ghostcube> i have done updates to 8.10 a bit tricky
[01:50] <Adola> Um.   Hello?
[01:51] <DaSkreech> hi
[01:51] <Adola> Did you guys get what I pasted?
[01:51] <DaSkreech> draik: Should
[01:51] <ghostcube> draik, ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/projekte/knoppicillin/k6d_6.0.2.iso
[01:52] <draik> DaSkreech: I should ...?
[01:52] <DaSkreech> Adola: Yes please don't paste in the chan
[01:52] <draik> ghostcube: Is that English?
[01:52] <lespea> DaSkreech: in compiz you can use ctr+alt+mouse1 to rotate the cube; it doesn't appear that you can do this in kde4
[01:52] <Adola> Yes, I'm sorry.
[01:52] <ghostcube> afaik yes and its only text based
[01:52] <DaSkreech> draik: Kubuntu should allow you to remove infected files
[01:53] <draik> DaSkreech: Ok, thanks. Just wanted to make sure before I try that as an option.
[01:53] <DaSkreech> lespea: ah Umm hit ctrl+F11 and you get the same effect I think
[01:53] <draik> ghostcube: No issue with text-only as I can navigate fairly easily to the file I need on the drive.
[01:53] <DaSkreech> Why do I have cube even enabled?
[01:53] <lespea> DaSkreech: right, I know you can do it with the keyboard, but I want to do it with the mouse (along with a whole bunch of other effects)
[01:54] <Adola> Yes, so, anyone think they could help me with this problem with Kopete not connecting on Dial-up, but it will connect on Highspeed... (Same thing for Pidgin)
[01:54] <DaSkreech> lespea: well ctrl+alt is the keyboard as well
[01:55] <DaSkreech> Adola: Everything else connecys fine?
[01:56] <Adola> DaSkreech: Um, well, IRC.  And, I used a program called "kmess" it connected me.  It's just Pidgin and Kopete
[01:56] <lespea> DaSkreech: that was just an example I used... I just want to know if anybody knows when mapping to the mouse will be possible
[01:56] <DaSkreech> lespea: What do you want?
[01:56] <Adola> They connect on highspeed.  But, now that I'm back on Dial-up.  They won't connect
[01:56] <lespea> DaSkreech: to map things to the mouse
[01:56] <DaSkreech> lespea: There is hot corners as well
[01:57] <lespea> DaSkreech: I don't care about the alternatives, if you don't know that's fine just say so
[01:57] <DaSkreech> Adola: Hmm dunno has #pidgin died as well?
[01:57] <rickey> gees
[01:57] <DaSkreech> lespea: I'm not sure what you are asking for:) I'm not big on desktop effects so you want to do all the effects without touching the keyboard?
[01:58] <Adola> I've not asked.  However, I doubt it iwll do much good.  I refuse to use Pidgin.  It's far more buggy (in my case.) Than Kopete
[01:58] <Adola> However, I'll ask.
[01:58] <lespea> DaSkreech: just to be able to include the mouse buttons in the bindings
[01:58] <DaSkreech> Adola: Perhaps figuring out one will help the other?
[01:58] <DaSkreech> lespea: Asked in #kwin ?
[01:58] <lespea> DaSkreech: thanks :)
[02:05] <walter> hey folks; I have a broken entry in my kde's menu, and it's not listed in kmenuedit.  Where can I look to figure out what's wrong?
[02:08] <draik> ghostcube: Downloaded... Burned... Going to try now
[02:09] <alipio> Hi there... Is there a way to get msn support in kopete of kde 4.2?
[02:10] <Adola> alipio: Kopete in  KDE 4.2 has MSN support
[02:10] <Adola> It's called WML
[02:10] <Adola> Just use that.
[02:10] <Adola> Use the WML protocol
[02:10] <alipio> Adola: I know about WML.. but it always show me "Wrong Password" message...
[02:11] <Adola> alipio: Oh.
[02:11] <Adola> Darn, I don't know then.
[02:11] <DaSkreech> alipio: I think they had an update for libmsn check if you have that
[02:12] <alipio> I've just installed kubuntu from the experimental kde4 repository...
[02:12] <draik> ghostcube: It's in German!
[02:12] <ghostcube> hmm no chance to change the speach
[02:12] <ghostcube> ?
[02:13] <lespea> if anybody had to conjure a guess as to when the first beta of ibex is gonna come out...
[02:14] <DaSkreech> lespea: how about you check the schedule on the wiki ?
[02:15] <draik> ghostcube: Nope. It started in English, then goes German.
[02:16] <lespea> DaSkreech: thanks found it
[02:16] <DaSkreech> !schedule
[02:16] <DaSkreech> Hmm not quite what I was looking for
[02:16] <DaSkreech> lespea: When is it?
[02:17] <lespea> March 26th
[02:17] <lespea> a new alpha release is coming out on thursday
[02:18] <alipio> Does anybody here use MSN with kopete of kde 4.2 ???
[02:18] <lespea> I've had bad luck with alpha though so i tend to shy away from that (which makes sense -- it is alpha!)
[02:20] <pteague> anybody familiar with using : in autocomplete scripts? such as with svn propset svn:ignore - *buntu's autocomplete scripts somehow does that, but i can't figure out how
[02:20] <DaSkreech> I don't
[02:21] <maryellen> Hey Gang. Running 6.06.2 here and I don't find  keytouch  in the repositories. Am I missing something? or blind?  :-)
[02:22] <Adola> Hello.  I need to install MSN-Pecan.
[02:22] <Adola> However, SMP doesn't show it.
[02:22] <KomiaPoika> hi
[02:22] <Adola> Actually, when I type in "Kopete" SMP wno't show ANYTHINg.
[02:23] <maryellen> The reason for asking is that my son bought me a nice 'multi-media' kbd and I read in the forum that keytouch is the simpliest way to get it setup.
[02:23] <Adola> I had to use Add/Remove to get programs.  But, it won't show up all the nice extras like msnpecan
[02:23] <maryellen> Adola, you're not capitalizing it, are you?
[02:23] <Adola> No, it won't show ANYTHING
[02:24] <maryellen> ah
[02:24] <Adola> I'll show you
[02:24] <ghostcube> could it be that the symlink for /usr/lib/libGl.so is not set if installing nvidia-glx-1xx packages
[02:24] <ghostcube> on 64 bit
[02:25] <Adola> I typed in "hydrogen"
[02:25] <Adola> (I've got it installed)
[02:25] <Adola> And NOTHING showes up.
[02:26] <DaSkreech> !info keytouch dapper
[02:26] <DaSkreech> !info keytouch
[02:27] <KomiaPoika> installing kubuntu 8.10 on the sata disk of a pc that has an ide hard disk also with xp. how do i force grub to install on the ide disk? cause the pc doesn't see the sata disk at boot?
[02:27] <DaSkreech> maryellen: Not crazy it seems
[02:28] <DaSkreech> Whats SMP ?
[02:28] <KomiaPoika> DaSkreech: multi processor
[02:29] <DaSkreech> KomiaPoika: Not in this context
[02:29] <KomiaPoika> DaSkreech: in what context?
[02:29] <maryellen> DaSkreech, drats! so what do I use here then? :-(
[02:29] <DaSkreech> Adola said he searched in SMP
[02:30] <DaSkreech> maryellen: keytouch ?
[02:30] <KomiaPoika> can someone help me to install grub on the ide hard drive, installing kubuntu on the sata hard drive?
[02:31] <walter> I finally decided to forgo having windows installed, and now i have a drive as such:  [ ext2 /boot: 512mb ][ free space: 100gb ][ ext3 kubuntu: 50gb]   can anybody point me in the direction I should go in to have kubuntu take over the hard drive?
[02:31] <maryellen> DaSkreech, well, if it's not available in Dapper, .... how?
[02:33] <DaSkreech> maryellen: Either find it externally or compile it
[02:33] <Ward1983> any ktechlab users here by any chance?
[02:33] <DaSkreech> What's ktechlab?
[02:33] <DaSkreech> KomiaPoika: Follw the instructions to install grub but just use your IDE s the target
[02:33] <DaSkreech>  !grub
[02:34] <Ward1983> DaSkreech, "KTechLab is an Open Source Intergated Design Environment (IDE) for electronic and PIC microcontroller circuit design and simulation." - www.ktechlab.org
[02:34] <DaSkreech> ah sweet
[02:34] <Ward1983> works nicely but cannot fidn a irc channel for it
[02:35] <Ward1983> i want to find out if i can scale the units of their "scope" (very similar to an oscilloscope except i cannot find out how to scale in height)
[02:37] <DaSkreech> Do they have a mailing list?
[02:38] <Ward1983> a dev one yes
[02:43] <KomiaPoika> it seems in kde 8.10 with kde4.2beta i have to login twice from kdm before i actually login to kde4. how do i make that i only have to login once?
[02:46] <mason> Hey, guys.
[02:46] <mason> I'm trying to download this: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Crystal+Monitor?content=28165
[02:47] <mason> What do I use to open .skz?
[02:48] <DaSkreech> KomiaPoika: Somehing wonky in your session?
[02:49] <mason> Could somebody help me to install a plasmoid?
[02:50] <mason> I'm looking at the "How to install a Plasmoid" on kde-look.org, but I'm at a loss as to what it means =/
[02:50] <KomiaPoika> DaSkreech: not at present
[02:50] <KomiaPoika> DaSkreech: i'm in the configuring grub box
[02:50] <KomiaPoika> DaSkreech: it asks should i install the grub boot loader to the mbr?
[02:51] <DaSkreech> Is your mbr on the IDE?
[02:51] <szrhawaii> does anyone know of a plugin or a file i need to download in order to have k3b or brasero burn iso's to cd-r my computer used to write to them now all of a sudden i loaded this version and it doesnt anymore
[02:51] <KomiaPoika> DaSkreech: i dunno, but it says the install detected windows xp (which is on the ide hard drive, where i want the grub, cause it's the only hard drive my pc sees at boot)
[02:52] <szrhawaii> Hey DaSkreech how you doing tonight
[02:53] <DaSkreech> not bad
[02:53] <DaSkreech> KomiaPoika: That would be right then
[02:53] <KomiaPoika> kthx
[02:55] <szrhawaii> DaSkreech hey when i had gnome my comp burned cd-r iso files now that i have kde it doesnt burn iso's to cd-r only to dvd- can you help me in this issue is there a plugin or file i need to download in order to make brasero or k3b burn a iso file in a cd-r
[02:55] <DaSkreech> Wot?
[02:55] <DaSkreech> k3b can burn CD
[02:55] <DaSkreech> I think it has DVD as the default
[02:55] <DaSkreech> but yeah it can do CD
[02:56] <KomiaPoika> yes it can
[02:56] <szrhawaii> how do i configure it cause its forcing me to do the dvd only and wont let me choose
[02:56] <szrhawaii> when i upload the iso file it only gives me the dvd option
[02:56] <DaSkreech> Is it a DVD Iso?
[02:57] <szrhawaii> its only 699mb
[02:57] <KomiaPoika> DaSkreech: it didnt install on the ide hard drive
[02:57] <szrhawaii> it should be enough for a cd iso
[02:57] <KomiaPoika> DaSkreech: freebsd bootloader is still there, and can't load the linux os
[02:57] <szrhawaii> i would think that would be one
[02:59] <mason> Could anybody help me to install this plasmoid?: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/yasp+Yet+Another+SystemMonitor+Plasmoid+?content=94144
[03:00] <szrhawaii> mason if you can figure it out let me know cause i was trying to load that one as well a few days ago
[03:00] <mason> :P
[03:00] <mason> The thing is, I'm a total newbie to Linux in general, and all of this is killing me xD
[03:01] <mason> In all honesty, I really just want to be able to get ANY plasmoid
[03:02] <DaSkreech> mason: What version of KDE?
[03:03] <mason> daskreech:  4.1
[03:04] <DaSkreech> mason: I'll assume you are not on a 64 bit machine ?
[03:05] <mason> DaSkreech: Yup. You are correct.
[03:06] <Guest66721> hola
[03:06] <Guest66721> alguien habla español
[03:06] <DaSkreech> hola
[03:06] <DaSkreech> !es
[03:06] <Guest66721> q tal
[03:06] <Guest66721> soy nuevo en ubuntu
[03:07] <Guest66721> pero ya me esta gustando
[03:07] <Guest66721> solo q tengo un problema con el virtual box
[03:07] <Guest66721> tu podrias ayudarme
[03:10] <DaSkreech> Guest66721: escribo /join #kubuntu-es
[03:10] <DaSkreech> miguel__: ^^^
[03:11] <judgen> Has anyone forked kde3 yet?
[03:11] <szrhawaii> what is the pastebin url
[03:12] <DaSkreech> mason: Hmm looks like you have ot compile it
[03:13] <DaSkreech> !paste
[03:13] <szrhawaii> thanks
[03:13] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Also in topic
[03:14] <szrhawaii> DaSkreech this is the error im getting from brasero on burning the iso to a cd-r
[03:14] <szrhawaii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/103740/
[03:14] <szrhawaii> can you help
[03:15] <mason> DaSkreech:  How might I do that? I'm sorry, but I'm an extremely large noob to Linux and generally some parts of computing...
[03:15] <mason> :P
[03:16] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Tried using wodim?
[03:16] <szrhawaii> not yet
[03:16] <szrhawaii> not sure how to use wodim
[03:16] <DaSkreech> mason: you'd have to install cmake
[03:17] <DaSkreech> wodim /path/to/iso
[03:17] <DaSkreech> pretty simple
[03:18] <szrhawaii> trying right now
[03:19] <mason> Okay...
[03:19] <mason> DaSkreech: I now have cmake
[03:19] <mason> I think
[03:21] <DaSkreech> :-)
[03:21] <DaSkreech> type cmake and see if it's a command
[03:22] <mason> Yep
[03:22] <mason> It's a command
[03:22] <mason> Lots of 'em too :P
[03:23] <mason> So, I have 94144-yasp-0.5.tar.bz2 on my desktop. I have no idea as to what I should do now xD
[03:23] <DaSkreech> groovy
[03:23] <DaSkreech> mason: untar it
[03:23] <mason> Then do I hit install?
[03:23] <DaSkreech> ;-)
[03:23] <szrhawaii_> DaSkreech wodim didnt work
[03:23] <DaSkreech> We shall see
[03:24] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii_: Same error?
[03:24] <mason> DaSkreech: It gave me instructions, but I don't know how to read it =/
[03:24] <mason> Should I type them?
[03:24] <szrhawaii_> its says 5 (input/output error) test unit ready scsi sendcmd: fatal error <DaSkreech>
[03:24] <DaSkreech> !paste
[03:25] <mason> Because... quite  frankly, it makes no sense to me.
[03:25] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii_: hmm sounds like a burner issue
[03:25] <DaSkreech> Or more specifically a burner communication issue
[03:25] <DaSkreech> #wodim ?
[03:25] <DaSkreech> mason: Paste to the URL above
[03:25] <szrhawaii_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/103741/ this is what i got from terminal DaSkreech
[03:26] <mason> http://paste.ubuntu.com/103742/
[03:26] <szrhawaii_> im the only one in that chat line #wodim
[03:27] <DaSkreech> mason: thats from the INSTALL file ?
[03:27] <mason> Yessir
[03:28] <DaSkreech> Ok you untarred it and went into the directory ?
[03:29] <mason> ooh
[03:29] <mason> Does untarring mean extracting?
[03:29] <mason> If so, then I haven't untarred it yet xD Sorry for failing :X
[03:29] <mason> But if not...
[03:29] <mason> then I'm pretty sure I'm in the directory...
[03:30] <mason> Well, I extracted it  in I'm in the folder I extracted to.
[03:32] <DaSkreech> great
[03:32] <DaSkreech> in terminal?
[03:32] <mason> No
[03:32] <DaSkreech> press F4
[03:32] <mason> I can't truly say I know how to navigate there with the terminal =/
[03:33] <mason> Okay
[03:33] <DaSkreech> so now yu are there in the terminal :-D
[03:33] <mason> f4 while in the terminal?
[03:33] <DaSkreech> wasn't that hard?
[03:33] <mason> oh
[03:33] <DaSkreech>  Oh no while in Dolphin or konqueror
[03:33] <DaSkreech> It pulls up a terminal in the directory you are in
[03:33] <mason> Yeah, got it.
[03:33] <DaSkreech> pretty sweet
[03:33] <mason> That's very handy.
[03:34] <mason> So, yeah. I'm in the terminal.
[03:34] <TouchDown> how i set my mozilla firefox as default browser ?
[03:34] <DaSkreech> you can copy the commands from the file there
[03:34] <DaSkreech> mkdir build
[03:34] <DaSkreech> cdbuild
[03:34] <DaSkreech> etc
[03:34] <mason> Ohh
[03:34] <DaSkreech> !default
[03:34] <mason> That's awesome.
[03:34] <DaSkreech> Wait
[03:34] <DaSkreech> anyway TouchDown in system settings you can set default web browser
[03:35] <mason> mkdir: cannot create directory `build': File exists
[03:35] <mason> ""
[03:35] <DaSkreech> cd build
[03:36] <mason> oh
[03:37] <mason> Do you still have the pastebin page I pasted open?
[03:37] <mason> Because I don't know what to do at this part
[03:38] <mason> cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=release -DKDE-4.1=true ../
[03:38] <mason> So I just paste it all?
[03:38] <DaSkreech> cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=release -DKDE-4.1=true ../
[03:38] <DaSkreech> Yes
[03:39] <mason> Oh
[03:39] <mason> I did it before
[03:39] <mason> I must've copied it wrong
[03:39] <mason> after the input "sudo make install"
[03:40] <mason> I get: sudo make install
[03:40] <roconnor> I was trying to start a second xsession (in 8-bit mode) and I did "sudo startx -- :1" ... that was really bad.
[03:40] <roconnor> when I rebooted I couldn't even log in
[03:40] <mason> woops
[03:40] <mason> I get: make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[03:40] <roconnor> because it couldn't find .DCOPserver_faris__0
[03:41] <DaSkreech> try make then sudo make install
[03:41] <mason> So just make alone
[03:41] <mason> then sudo make install
[03:41] <mason> ?
[03:42] <DaSkreech> Yes
[03:42] <mason> output: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[03:44] <DaSkreech> try reinstall kdelibs
[03:44] <mason> in the same terminal?
[03:44] <mason> same location and everything?
[03:45] <SilverRook> can someone help a noob with a kubuntu install to flashdrive ?
[03:45] <DaSkreech> that wouldn't make a difference but sure
[03:45] <mason> bash: reinstall: command not found
[03:46] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install kdelibs5 --reinstall
[03:48] <mason> reinstalled
[03:48] <SilverRook> can i install pure kde to a flashdrive ? without it being a live cd usb-creator thingy ?
[03:49] <DaSkreech> mason: what version is this btw ?
[03:49] <mason> Hmm
[03:49] <mason> Sorry, but, version of what?
[03:50] <DaSkreech> the plasmoid
[03:50] <DaSkreech> This guy really decided to make it really hard to install
[03:50] <SilverRook> anyone
[03:50] <SilverRook> ?
[03:51] <mason> daskreech: 0.5
[03:51] <DaSkreech> SilverRook: I think so
[03:51] <DaSkreech> I don't know why you wouldn't be able to
[03:52] <SilverRook> well i am installing now i have had to rip out my HDD's so the install doesnt detect them so i can use GUIDED when installing
[03:52] <mason> DaSkreech: I'm thinking of just trying to install a different system monitor
[03:52] <SilverRook> can i then just plug this in to any machine and boot up this ? or will the boot loader screw up ?
[03:52] <Makuseru> Hi, I seem to be having a problem with a program. It's too long horizontally to fit on my screen, but when i grab the edge to resize it it only lets me make it even longer, i can't  make it any shorter. Anyone know what would cause this, and how i could fix it?
[03:52] <DaSkreech> I can't speak for any machine
[03:53] <szrhawaii_> is it mount dev/cd0 to mount my cd drive
[03:53] <SilverRook> but asa generalisation
[03:53] <mason> I tried a few other ones earlier today, but the were .skz files and I honestly don't know what to do with those.
[03:53] <DaSkreech> those are different
[03:54] <SilverRook> the trouble i had with teh usb-creator was that when i stored files on it from windows ( :S i know ) i got boot errors when trying to boot off the stick
[03:54] <SilverRook> i kinda need it to be a multi purpose flash drive
[03:54] <SilverRook> linux in one half and a fat 32 partition on the other half
[03:54] <DaSkreech> SilverRook: partition it
[03:54] <SilverRook> its 16gb sandisk cruzer so i no worried bout space lol
[03:55] <SilverRook> daskreech thats why i used guided on this install and its cut it in half
[03:55] <SilverRook> does that mean my linux system will be in the dev/sda1 50% section and my other section is still my fat 32 partition ?
[03:57] <mason> DaSkreech: What do I do if the plasmoid I'm trying to install is a .skz  file?
[03:57] <DaSkreech> mason: Actually I think you may be able to install it from the addwidgets dialog
[03:59] <DaSkreech> mason: the configure with cmake works?
[03:59] <SilverRook> meh.... the installation has hung at 54% :(
[04:01] <DaSkreech> mason: do you have  a makefile ?
[04:01] <mason> Oh, sorry for taking so long xD
[04:01] <mason> Was away for a quick second.
[04:02] <DaSkreech> a loooooong second
[04:03] <SilverRook> damn
[04:03] <mason> daskreech: I believe that the configure with cmake worked...
[04:03] <SilverRook> its 4am
[04:03] <DaSkreech> SilverRook: Take a break
[04:03] <SilverRook> i gotta be at work at 7
[04:03] <SilverRook> lol
[04:03] <DaSkreech> See you when you get back from work
[04:03] <SilverRook> no point going to sleep now lol
[04:03] <mason> Will the makefile be  in the folder that the install, uninstall, etc. folders are?
[04:03] <DaSkreech> it's not that hard a problem to solve I beleive
[04:04] <szrhawaii> how do you build a iso file or what program is easy to use to create an iso file
[04:04] <DaSkreech> mason: I don't know it should be in the same directory that you ran the command in but check if it's somewhere else
[04:04] <DaSkreech> mkisofs ?
[04:04] <DaSkreech> !info mkisofs
[04:04] <DaSkreech> bah
[04:05] <szrhawaii> got any other programs
[04:05] <mason> DaSkreech: What will the makefile's name be...?
[04:05] <DaSkreech> makefile
[04:05] <DaSkreech> dd
[04:05] <mason> I see none.
[04:05] <DaSkreech> mason: Hmm
[04:05] <DaSkreech> that's not right
[04:06] <DaSkreech> run the cmake command again and paste the last like 20 lines
[04:07] <szrhawaii> DaSkreech how do i use genisoimage
[04:07] <SilverRook> daskreech i just read this
[04:07] <mason> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/103756/
[04:07] <szrhawaii> or pdi2iso
[04:08] <SilverRook> this is what i was afraid of
[04:08] <SilverRook> http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-windows/2008-August/002998.html
[04:08] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: read the man pages
[04:08] <szrhawaii> ok
[04:08] <DaSkreech> mason: duh
[04:08] <DaSkreech> !compile | mas
[04:09] <DaSkreech> !compile | mason Sorry
[04:09] <mason> So...
[04:10] <mason> Should I apt-get all those?
[04:11] <DaSkreech> umm
[04:11] <DaSkreech> build-essential should do
[04:11] <DaSkreech> I think
[04:12] <DaSkreech> SilverRook: Oh Um mok
[04:12] <SilverRook> thats what i mean wont the env variables be different when i plug it into different pcs
[04:12] <Makuseru> Hi, Ive got a program that wont let me shrink its size horizontally, only make it longer. Does anyone know why this would happen, or how i could fix it?
[04:13] <mason> DaSkreech: Daangit.
[04:13] <SilverRook> feck it i gonna reformat it as fat32 and forget the whole thing too much of a ball ache
[04:13] <mason> I did sudo make install and I got: make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[04:13] <DaSkreech> mason: after installing Build-essential and rerunning cmake ?
[04:13] <mason> yep
[04:14] <DaSkreech> pastebin the output of cmake
[04:15] <mason> http://paste.ubuntu.com/103757/
[04:15] <mason> bah
[04:16] <DaSkreech> Umm
[04:16] <xp-killer> can anyone tell me what the folder ".strigi" stands for in kubuntu?cause it take up a lot of space on my pc
[04:16] <DaSkreech> you need some dev package
[04:16] <DaSkreech>  try kde-workspace-bin-dev
[04:17] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: It'sa cache of the strigi index
[04:17] <mason> Where do I type that in?
[04:17] <xp-killer> it hold info of what?
[04:17] <xp-killer> DaSkreech:
[04:17] <DaSkreech> mason: sudo apt-get install kde-worspace-bin-dev
[04:17] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: can i delet wats inside?
[04:17] <mason> oh
[04:18] <DaSkreech> !info kde-worspace-bin-dev
[04:18] <DaSkreech> !info kde-workspace-bin-dev
[04:18] <DaSkreech> Grr
[04:18] <xp-killer> lol
[04:18] <mason> E: Couldn't find package kde-workspace-bin-dev
[04:18] <xp-killer> DaSkreech:  can i delet the folder .strigi?
[04:18] <DaSkreech> mason: kdebase-workspace-dev
[04:19] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: If you like
[04:19] <DaSkreech> !info kdebase-workspace-dev
[04:19] <DaSkreech> \o/
[04:19] <sidney> xp-killer: did you try asking google
[04:19] <Frederick> My PC does not allow a partition to be smaller. I tried to resize it both with in vista partitioner and kubuntu partitioner with no luck. Ive ran a defrag and scan disk, what else can I do?
[04:20] <xp-killer> sidney: googles is not my friend
[04:20] <DaSkreech> Delete stuff?
[04:21] <mason> DaSkreech: I'm getting a new computer in the future... if I want to get a plasmoid again, do I  have to go through all these commands to get the base set up?
[04:21] <SilverRook> is there anyone else that can help me cuz DaSkreech is busy
[04:21] <DaSkreech> mason: Just for this one
[04:21] <DaSkreech> but then you should have it down to a few commands
[04:21] <mason> But I'll be getting a new computer... won't I be missing all these things?
[04:22] <sidney> xp-killer: i think it's to help in your searches
[04:22] <DaSkreech> normally I just click on get new plasmoid and choose something sexy from the list to install and then ignore
[04:22] <DaSkreech> mason: Few commands away
[04:22] <mason> Is it just this certain plasmoid that's strange?
[04:22] <DaSkreech> mason: sudo apt-get install cmake build-essential kdebase-workspace-dev
[04:23] <mason> Done
[04:23] <SilverRook> sod it
[04:23] <DaSkreech> mason: Yeah it's his first so I'm guessing he's trying to limit the people who use it to knowledgeable people so he can get high quality feedback
[04:23] <DaSkreech> SilverRook: again? :)
[04:23] <SilverRook> yup
[04:23] <mason> Oh
[04:23] <DaSkreech> mason: try the cmake and see if you have errors
[04:23] <mason> Should I do the Cmake command again?
[04:24] <mason> yep
[04:24] <mason> I'm pretty sure it's good now
[04:24] <mason> because
[04:24] <mason> It actually took time to do all that
[04:24] <mason> it was pretty quick before that
[04:24] <mason> and the build files have been written to...
[04:24] <mason> so
[04:24] <mason> sudo make install now?
[04:24] <SilverRook> i cant stop it installing its up to installing grub now but i'm gonna format it and use it a s live usb after that option seemed to work a lot better but when i tried booting off it before i got boot error for some reasion
[04:25] <DaSkreech> yeah
[04:25] <SilverRook> this is what i am trying tofigure out
[04:25] <mason> God damnit! Are you kidding me?!
[04:25] <mason> Same error
[04:25] <SilverRook> what the cause of that is rather than a work around
[04:25] <mason> DaSkreech: make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[04:25] <DaSkreech> SilverRook: You have to set your bios to boot other device I think
[04:25] <DaSkreech> mason: no makefile ?
[04:25] <SilverRook> nope i choose what device to boot from the boot menu
[04:25] <mason> No makefile
[04:25] <DaSkreech> mason: last few lines of cmake again
[04:26] <SilverRook> somebody said something about it being an inactive partition
[04:26] <SilverRook> thats why i get boot error
[04:26] <DaSkreech> maybe
[04:26] <rickey> my adept manager had a bad downlaod and install ,it ia locked up , what is the unlock code for that please if anyone knows?
[04:26] <mason> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/103763/
[04:27] <DaSkreech> mason: you are in /home/mason/Plasmoids/yasp-0.5/build ?
[04:27] <mason> yep
[04:28] <DaSkreech> type ls and pastebin that
[04:28] <mason> DaSkreech:  output: mason@ubuntu:~/Plasmoids/yasp-0.5/build/build$
[04:29] <mason> ...
[04:29] <mason> not really much of an output
[04:29] <mason> I don't know if that's supposed to happen or not, but meh
[04:29] <mason> :P
[04:29] <rickey> can anyone help me with my adept manager crash please
[04:30] <android60> how do i enable desktop effects in 8.10?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> mason: Hmm
[04:31] <DaSkreech> mason: Waiiiit
[04:31] <DaSkreech> cd ..
[04:32] <mason> ?
[04:32] <DaSkreech> cd dotdot
[04:32] <roconnor> is there some way I can startx xterm -- :1  without being root?
[04:33] <sidney> android60: have you tried appearance and preferences
[04:33] <mason> DaSkreech: What should I do?
[04:34] <DaSkreech> mason: you went up one directory?
[04:34] <DaSkreech> look to see if there isa makefile there
[04:34] <DaSkreech> rickey: what happened?
[04:34] <DaSkreech> roconnor: just don't be root. in fact never run X as root
[04:34] <rickey> i was downloading my updates
[04:35] <DaSkreech> rickey: right
[04:35] <mason> Where do you mean a makefile "there?"
[04:35] <mason> Where is that?
[04:35] <rickey>  and it had a bad file and crashed
[04:35] <rickey>  now it is locked up
[04:35] <rickey> and it wont fix it,s self
[04:36] <rickey> i use to know the fix
[04:36] <rickey>  but it,s been to long ago
[04:36] <mason> DaSkreech: What directory did I go to...?
[04:36] <rickey>  sudo sommmething or other
[04:38] <DaSkreech> mason: one directory up from where you are
[04:38] <DaSkreech> you are in a build/build
[04:38] <DaSkreech> !adept fix
[04:38] <mason> Oh
[04:40] <mason> DaSkreech: I get the same error
[04:40] <mason> And I'm in /yasp-0.5/build
[04:40] <DaSkreech> mason: whats in that directory ?
[04:40] <mason> a makefile
[04:41] <rickey> thank you that has got it
[04:42] <DaSkreech> mason: Whoot :) ok what's make say?
[04:42] <roconnor> DaSkreech:
[04:42] <roconnor> $ startx xterm -- :1
[04:42] <roconnor> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[04:42] <DaSkreech> roconnor: try X :1
[04:42] <mason> mason@ubuntu:~/Plasmoids/yasp-0.5/build$ sudo make install
[04:42] <mason> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[04:43] <TouchDown> how i set my firefox browser as default
[04:43] <DaSkreech> Really? Hmm
[04:43] <DaSkreech> TouchDown: System settings
[04:43] <TouchDown> ok
[04:43] <TouchDown> and after ?
[04:43] <DaSkreech> mason: can you pastebin the makefile ?
[04:43] <roconnor> $ X :1
[04:43] <roconnor> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[04:45] <mason> Bah I have so many windows open xD I can't keep track   :P
[04:45] <mason> Yeah, I'll post it
[04:45] <DaSkreech> roconnor: Maybe you aren't authorized :)
[04:46] <mason> http://paste.ubuntu.com/103769/
[04:46] <rio_> Hello ppl
[04:47] <rio_> Every right click menu shows some bad b4 popin up any suggesions ?
[04:48] <rio_> Kubuntu 8.10 btw
[04:48] <mason> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/103769/
[04:48] <roconnor> DaSkreech: noooooo :P
[04:48] <DaSkreech> rio_: known issue should get fixed in Jackalope
[04:52] <DaSkreech> mason: try just running make
[04:54] <mason> so just put in, make?
[04:54] <DaSkreech> yes
[04:55] <mason> Nothing happens
[04:56] <DaSkreech> sudo make install still says no rule
[04:57] <mason> no rule
[04:57] <mason> :'(
[04:58] <mason> daskreech: shall I just try a different plasmoid??
[04:59] <DaSkreech> I suspect so. You can probably get this working as a project it just need 3 lines in the makefile
[05:00] <mason> This is kind of sad, in a way :'( One day when I'm extremely 1337 with kde 4.1 and installing plasmoids I'll come back and revisit this  f'ing plasmoid that has caused me so much gried.
[05:00] <mason> :P
[05:02] <DaSkreech> mason: It's not that hard once you know :)
[05:02] <mason> daskreech: The thing is, I probably forgot everything I've learned while trying to get it to work :P
[05:02] <DaSkreech> mason: Do you have a Get new plasmoids button on the bottom of add widgets?
[05:03] <mason> I have...
[05:03] <mason> install new widgets
[05:03] <mason> and that's all
[05:03] <rio_> I still unable to install AmaroK 2 yet.  My adept pkg manager got the xtra url in third parties type bin distribution intrepid and compnents main. Yet it wont upgrade to AmaroK 2
[05:03] <DaSkreech> what happens when you click on that ?
[05:03] <rio_> what am I doin wrong ?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> rio_: Why do you want Amarok 2?
[05:03] <rio_> Just wanna try
[05:04] <DaSkreech> a) it replaces Amarok 1.4 and b) it has less features
[05:04] <DaSkreech> sure you wanna try?
[05:04] <rio_> em few guys were sayin it 's good
[05:05] <rio_> and snapshot looks good too
[05:07] <DaSkreech> ok
[05:07] <DaSkreech> what the URL you have in Adept ?
[05:07] <rio_> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu
[05:08] <rio_> as per website
[05:09] <rio_> I have done as it says
[05:09] <rio_> Anyways I have no special intrest I still am new to Kubuntu
[05:10] <DaSkreech> rio_: alright. try this
[05:11] <DaSkreech> rio_: close adept and run sudo apt-get update from the terminal
[05:12] <rio_> W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263
[05:12] <rio_> error
[05:13] <mason> DaSkreech: "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` .." is what it says on the how to, but how do I know what goes after --prefix' if there's no readme type of file in the one I downloaded?
[05:14] <DaSkreech> You are missing something from that
[05:14] <mason> ?
[05:14] <mason> There's nothing that tells me what goes after
[05:14] <DaSkreech> cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=release -DKDE-4.1=true ../
[05:14] <DaSkreech> KDE4.1
[05:14] <rio_> yes further error contains this >> Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock -
[05:15] <DaSkreech> rio_: Hmm
[05:15] <DaSkreech> that shouldn't be locked
[05:15] <mason> (where did you find that? :P)
[05:16] <mason> ... I don't have CMakeLists.txt
[05:20] <mason> YAY!
[05:21] <mason> I'm getting a weahter plasmoid
[05:21] <mason> and I did make
[05:21] <mason> and it's working!!!
[05:21] <mason> :)
[05:23] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:24] <mason> DaSkreech: Now... How do I find the plasmoid file?
[05:24] <mason> I don't know where it was saved to
[05:24] <DaSkreech> umm
[05:25] <DaSkreech> that I don't know
[05:25] <DaSkreech> is it in Add widgets ?
[05:25] <mason> Yeah, but I have to find the file
[05:25] <DaSkreech> rio_: you have intrepid main for the amarok repo?
[05:25] <DaSkreech> mason: Look at the rule for install in the makefile
[05:26] <rio_> sorry I dont understand ? @ DaSkreech
[05:27] <DaSkreech> rio_: What did you add when you added the repo?
[05:27] <DaSkreech> I didn't see a release for what you pasted above
[05:27] <mason> Foouund it
[05:29] <DaSkreech> mason: That section iswhat is missing for the other makefile
[05:29] <rio_> oh that url found on amarok's website
[05:29] <mason> DaSkreech: Now I'm wondering how to uninstall plasmoids
[05:29] <rio_> w8 i find it
[05:29] <mason> just if I ever want to
[05:29] <DaSkreech> mason: I keep asking them about that too :)
[05:30] <mason> DaSkreech: So there's no way to do it?
[05:30] <rio_> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main
[05:30] <rio_> this thing
[05:31] <DaSkreech> mason: There is it's just not friendly
[05:31] <DaSkreech> rio_: ok
[05:31] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4
[05:33] <mason> DaSkreech: I was just wondering if I should have "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=release -DKDE-4.1=true ../" saved somewhere because no files I see seem to have it
[05:35] <DaSkreech> mason: that was on the site for the first one. I didn't realise you had moved to a new plasmoid
[05:36] <rio_> it says not authentic hmm I started downloadd despite packages not being authentic :\
[05:36] <mason> It's been working for every 2 others that I've tried
[05:36] <mason> xD
[05:36] <mason> So...
[05:36] <mason> I dunno
[05:36] <kalorin> is there some way that you can assure yourself that you're running the right driver and that its' working correctly
[05:36] <kalorin> ?
[05:36] <kalorin> for video I mean
[05:36] <jess> ?
[05:37] <kalorin> i've got an Nvidia 8600GT
[05:37] <DaSkreech> mason: The only thing missing from the makefile you made for the first one is the install rule which should be in the other makefiles
[05:37] <kalorin> and it seems REALLY sluggish under kde4.1
[05:37] <DaSkreech> rio_: Yes no GPG key
[05:37] <kalorin> just lots and lots of video fragments and odd behaviors
[05:39]  * DaSkreech pats kalorin's shoulder
[05:39] <DaSkreech> You are running the right driver
[05:39] <kalorin> common complaint?
[05:39] <DaSkreech> It's working correctly
[05:39] <DaSkreech> How is that for assurance? :0
[05:39] <kalorin> great!
[05:39] <kalorin> I feel so much better
[05:39]  * kalorin heads off to bed :)
[05:39] <DaSkreech> kalorin: Yeah the nVidia driver kinda sucks for KDE it should be grand in about a month
[05:39] <kalorin> ok good
[05:40] <kalorin> I'm running the non free version, but I just notice the builtin intel driver on my laptop pushes that fine
[05:40] <kalorin> on my desktop sluggish as all get out
[05:40] <kalorin> which seems crazy
[05:40] <kalorin> 4gb of ram in a E6750 and a 8600GT and you'd think it'd just flat out fly
[05:40] <kalorin> :)
[05:40] <DaSkreech> Yeah welcome to driver bugs
[05:41] <DaSkreech> It's the 2D transform I think
[05:41] <kalorin> ah, every time the screen unlocks there's a ton of mishmash on it from whatever was in the frame buffer
[05:41] <kalorin> sometimes you can read it, not very secure
[05:42] <DaSkreech> Yeah I know
[05:42] <DaSkreech> annoying
[05:42] <mason> It seems like every Plasmoid is about weather or system monitoring xD
[05:43] <kalorin> I'd love a good CPU monitor like 3.5 had
[05:43] <DaSkreech> no dear I totally wasn't rendering those "tasteful art" photos of you in a 3D cube I swear!
[05:43] <kalorin> CPU/memory
[05:43] <kalorin> eh
[05:43] <kalorin> DaSkreech: heh
[05:43] <DaSkreech> kalorin: gratned!
[05:43] <kalorin> ;)
[05:43] <kalorin> name it
[05:43] <DaSkreech> It's in 4.2 I think
[05:43] <DaSkreech> hold on it was blogged
[05:44] <rio_> thanks a lot DaSkreech
[05:44] <LeeJunFan> I like the screenlets ones.
[05:44] <mason> Are there any system monitors that don't need the temperature doodad thingies?
[05:45] <DaSkreech> http://dhaumann.blogspot.com/2009/01/system-load-viewer.html
[05:45] <DaSkreech> rio_: worked ?
[05:45] <LeeJunFan> http://www.screenlets.org/index.php/Screenshots
[05:45] <mason> Should I get KDE4.2?
[05:45] <DaSkreech> mason: depends
[05:46] <mason> holy crap
[05:46] <mason> hmm
[05:46] <mason> This is going to make me sound
[05:46] <mason> like the biggest idiot ever
[05:46] <mason> I thought I was on 4.1...
[05:46] <DaSkreech> mason: Most of the plasmoids on kde-look etc are 4.1
[05:46] <mason> I'm on 3.5.10
[05:46] <DaSkreech> mason: How the hell?
[05:46] <mason> I just installed Kubuntu  8.10 two days ago and I was sure I was on 4.1
[05:47] <mason> Hmm
[05:47] <DaSkreech> mason: ha ha No you are
[05:47] <rio_> Yes its downloaded and working
[05:47] <mason> I  went to help
[05:47] <DaSkreech> mason: konversation is still KDE 3
[05:47] <DaSkreech> rio_: Enjoy
[05:47] <mason> oh
[05:47] <DaSkreech> kaffiene as well
[05:47] <DaSkreech> I think k3b
[05:47] <mason> *whew!*
[05:47] <kalorin> hrms..
[05:47] <mason> I'm on  4.1.3
[05:47] <kalorin> yeah how do you tell?
[05:47] <DaSkreech> Everything else should be 4.1.2 or 4.1.3
[05:48] <mason> Are there any other big sites that have a ton of plasmoids and everything?
[05:48] <DaSkreech> kalorin: help -> about KDE
[05:48] <DaSkreech> mason: Did you install the plasmoids package ?
[05:48] <mason> Which one...?
[05:48] <kalorin> 4.1.3 for me
[05:48] <kalorin> mkay
[05:48] <kalorin> well nighty nighty time
[05:48]  * kalorin waves
[05:48] <kalorin> thanks
[05:48] <mason> night
[05:49] <DaSkreech> night
[05:49] <rio_> nnn kalorin
[05:49] <rio_> -n
[05:49] <DaSkreech> !info kdeplasmoids
[05:50] <mason> Unless you've told me to get it...
[05:50] <mason> I don't think I have
[05:50] <DaSkreech> mason: Go man go!
[05:50] <mason> I have it
[05:50] <mason> Who knows how, not I, but whatever xD
[05:51] <DaSkreech> Might be installed by default I'd be mad if it wasn't
[05:51] <DaSkreech> I know I had to install it on hardy
[05:51] <mason> Should I get 4.2, do you think?
[05:52] <DaSkreech> I know 4.2 rocks :)
[05:52] <mason> Hmm
[05:52] <DaSkreech>  if you really like pplaying with plasmoids then I'd wait till it's out
[05:52] <mason> Are there sites like kde-look with more 4.2 stuff?
[05:52] <DaSkreech>  a lot of the current in the wild plasmoids are 4.1
[05:53] <DaSkreech> 4.2 is very very nice though it's out in less than a month so you can chill  if you like
[05:53] <mason> Alpha or Beta right now?
[05:53] <mason> I was at the site a second ago but I didn't notice xD
[05:54] <mason> ah
[05:54] <DaSkreech> RC
[05:55] <DaSkreech> which is a stupid designation but we have picked it up somehow
[05:58] <mason> I'm new to IRC. Is there a way to do ze friend adding and such?
[05:58] <mason> Or is more for huge chatrooms and the like.
[05:58] <rio_> If i switch to Gnome now all the KDE source and bin will be in cache and I can restore it later right ?
[06:00] <DaSkreech> mason: F4 ?
[06:00] <DaSkreech> rio_: Hmm ?
[06:00] <rio_> environment
[06:00] <rio_> GUI
[06:00] <mason> ?
[06:00] <mason> What about F4?
[06:00] <mason> aha
[06:00] <mason> I see
[06:00] <DaSkreech> The environment will get dumped. It will be restored next time you login
[06:02] <rio_> I actully am worried bout bad gfx which happens sometimes to drop down menus
[06:02] <mason> lul ima watching ur nick. im creepe
[06:02] <mason> xD
[06:02] <mason> Are all IRC clients like this?
[06:02] <mason> Watched Nicks, hmm
[06:02] <mason> and
[06:02] <mason> Well that's basically it.
[06:04] <mason> DaSkreech: do most 4.1 users enjoy oxygen and stick with it?
[06:05] <DaSkreech> mason: Couldn't tell you
[06:05] <DaSkreech> rio_: Known bug will be gone in Jackalope hopefully
[06:05] <rio_> I tried about douzen but now back to oxygen. Living things cant survive without it :P
[06:05] <DaSkreech> mason: If you don't enjoy it then switch it. No reason to care aboutothers
[06:05] <mason> I knkow
[06:05] <mason> I was just wondering because I was thinking that it's a pretty nice default theme xD
[06:06] <mason> Are there any KDE 4.1 System Monitors that don't need the stuff for the temperature?
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Dunno. Not really much of a monitor then is it ?
[06:09] <mason> Don't they monitor ram usage and stuff?
[06:12] <rio_> hey mason what was the first windows app you missed on ubuntu ?
[06:12] <mason> You mean, personalwise?
[06:12] <rio_> yes
[06:13] <mason> Like, "oh remember those windows apps we had in the 'ol days?"
[06:13] <mason> okay
[06:13] <mason> ermm
[06:13] <mason> I've had Kubuntu for about two days now.
[06:13] <mason> So it's kind of hard xD
[06:13] <rio_> I missed Media Player Classic but now I started usin VLC
[06:13] <mason> Does kubuntu come with any media player like that?
[06:13] <mason> That's GOOD?
[06:14] <rio_> it has something Dragon
[06:14] <mason> Ag
[06:14] <mason> ah
[06:14] <mason> dragon player
[06:14] <rio_> then I installed Kplayer
[06:14] <mason> hmm
[06:14] <mason> I need a video to watch to test it out.
[06:14] <mason> Is dragon player player bad?
[06:15] <Guest96847> hi. I need help with my dual boot kubuntu system with win xp and kubuntu. After upgrade i am unable to work in xp.
[06:15] <rio_> no but since I m not used to it I just prefered something that's similar to good ol' MPC
[06:16] <mason> rio_: How long have you been using linux?
[06:16] <rio_> bout 48 hrs :P
[06:17] <mason> lol
[06:17] <rio_> and I m sure I m gonna use  it very long period
[06:17] <Guest96847> for long but still not very good with cli. I have opened the grub menu list for editing.
[06:17] <mason> I've used it for...
[06:17] <mason> 48 hours xD
[06:17] <mason> less
[06:17] <mason> 40
[06:17] <mason> probably
[06:17] <mason> I had kubuntu 8.10 before
[06:17] <mason> But I had to get rid of it.
[06:17] <mason> but I sucked
[06:17] <mason> xD
[06:17] <mason> couldn't do crap on my own
[06:17] <mason> still can't
[06:18] <mason> but whatever
[06:18] <mason> xD
[06:18] <rio_> I mostly wont windows is too buggy and slow
[06:18] <mason> I love these plasmoids though
[06:18] <pteague> how do i switch tabs in konqueror?
[06:18] <Guest96847> any one to help me with problem of dual boot after upgrade?
[06:19] <rio_> GRuB handles that
[06:19] <rio_> you should try in settings
[06:19] <rio_> and check if windows is in the list
[06:19] <Guest96847> yes. i have opened the grub menu list for editing.
[06:19] <Guest96847> It has windows. My grub list says unlisted os or something like that.
[06:20] <mason> Hooray for clashing colors!
[06:20] <mason> aw
[06:20] <mason> I don't have the green background
[06:21] <mason> I just started IRC
[06:21] <rio_> Try repairing grub installation
[06:21] <mason> I need some uber channels to go to...
[06:21] <mason> hmm
[06:21] <rio_> in tools
[06:21] <Guest96847> how do i reinstall grub?
[06:21] <rio_> Grub editor
[06:21] <rio_> then tools
[06:22] <mason> (what's grub?)
[06:22] <mason> xD
[06:22] <rio_> there is option install restore grub
[06:22] <rio_> its like boot.ini in windows @ mason
[06:22] <Guest96847> It does have the entry for windows xp at the end.
[06:22] <mason> hmm
[06:22] <mason> boot.ini?
[06:22] <mason> I'm not usually this nooby, I swear! :P
[06:23] <Guest96847> I am sort of newbie. Please let me know step by step, if you don't mind.
[06:23] <rio_> Er I guess ud have to w8 for helpers
[06:23] <rio_> I m not helper :D
[06:23] <rio_> I m also a newbie
[06:23] <rio_> I just know a bit
[06:23] <powertool08> Guest96847: What's your question?
[06:24] <mason> Oh
[06:24] <mason> what's the apt-get command to get the big font pack?
[06:24] <mason> Or something like that
[06:24] <Guest96847>  I updated my kubuntu and then the xp partition is not opening though the grub menu says other os as one of the options.
[06:25] <powertool08> Guest96847: Sounds like you need to edit your menu.lst file found in /etc/grub I think
[06:25] <Guest96847> i have already opened that and it has an entry for windows xp
[06:25] <powertool08> Guest96847: What does the entry look like?
[06:26] <Guest96847> it says 'non linux os on /dev/sda1
[06:26] <powertool08> Guest96847: paste the entire section here
[06:26] <powertool08> !paste
[06:27] <Guest96847> and then title windows xp professional
[06:27] <mason> I want my new computer :'(
[06:28] <Guest96847>  I have pasted the entry at http://paste.ubuntu.com/103785/
[06:30] <powertool08> Guest96847: Ok, that looks good. So its not listed in grub on startup?
[06:30] <pidus> there used to a services option in system settings where one could see all the services on the machine (such as apache and mysql) start/stop them and set the defaults...i am unable to find anything similar in 8.10...does anybody know anything about it?
[06:33] <Guest96847> do I need to paste the entire entry for the grub menu list?
[06:33] <powertool08> pidus: Its under K menu -> system settings -> advanced tab -> system services for me but I'm on Hardy
[06:33] <powertool08> Guest96847: no
[06:33] <powertool08> Guest96847: The problem is that you can't boot into windows correct?
[06:34] <Guest96847> yes. I can use the windows partition though. I can view, copy paste etc.
[06:34] <pidus> powertool08, i remember having it on 8.04 but have they removed it from 8.10 :-(
[06:34] <powertool08> pidus: there's always the rc.d files :)
[06:35] <mason> What's the apt-get for getting the big font package?
[06:37] <powertool08> mason: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts maybe?
[06:38] <mason> oh
[06:38] <mason> thank you
[06:40] <powertool08> Guest96847: I'm not sure why it wouldn't boot if the menu.lst file is correct. Try asking in #ubuntu, its more active than this channel
[06:40] <mason> aww
[06:40] <mason> :'(
[06:40] <mason> xD
[06:48] <pidus> powertool08, doing it the 'rc.d' way is complicated..
[06:49] <powertool08> pidus: haha, ya. I wasn't serious, but it is an alternative
[06:50] <pidus> i thought 8.10 > 8.04 and things would've been easier
[06:50] <powertool08> pidus: There's also a command similar to sysctl or something that has a text graphics version of what you're looking for
[06:53] <pidus> powertool08: are services (such as apache) part of kernel parameters when they start before the login screen?...i don't think so
[06:53] <powertool08> pidus: You can start them before the login screen if you want but not mandatory
[07:00] <DaSkreech> !grub
[07:00] <DaSkreech> pteague: ctrl +,.
[07:01] <pteague> ty, finally found it under keyboard shortcuts... i thought i'd already changed those...  maybe i did on another box
[07:03] <DaSkreech> pteague: If I'm not mistaken you can change it in system settings and it changes for all KDE apps
[07:03] <DaSkreech> Guest96847: How are you managing ?
[07:03] <pteague> ah, ok, didn't know
[07:04] <DaSkreech> rio_: You are cool?
[07:04] <rio_> yes everything works fine :D
[07:05] <DaSkreech> all right
[07:08] <DaSkreech> !grub > Guest96847 In case you don't get help in #ubuntu
[07:15] <vbgunz> how do you *without* actually going into someone elses account through the gui, log that user out?
[07:19] <powertool08> vbgunz: this might work for you: http://zekus.blogspot.com/2005/01/force-user-logout.html
[07:20] <vbgunz> was just reading up about "slay"
[07:20] <vbgunz> that looks like it can work :)
[07:21] <pteague> powertoo108: is -15 guaranteed to kill everything the user is running?  i'd think -9 might be better?
[07:22] <vbgunz> I'll man them both, I can sort of understand why there is no clean and default type of way to do this.
[07:22] <powertool08> pteague: meh, I'd use -15, then ps | grep user and check for anything it didn't get, I'd also add a sudo, but I didn't write that page, just found it on google.
[07:47] <DarkriftX> anyone know whats wrong if the deb package installer says dependancy not satisfiable (likgtk2.0-0) but I have the dep installed?
[08:04] <Guest64223> 22
[08:35] <Zeelot> hi guys I need a lot of help please, I have a 2TB raid set and it used to have a bunch of partitions and an ntfs drive for my data (about 1.5TB), but I expanded the ntfs partition with I think GParted and now I cant access it (it shows as 47GB and the rest unpartitioned but I deleted the older partitions and expanded the NTFS partition to take the whole drive)
[08:36] <Zeelot> I have all my data on this 1.5 TB partition and I just wanted to expand it to use all 2TB, after I expanded it I could access it but then I rebooted and now I cannot anymore
[08:36] <Zeelot> please any help or direction would be _very_ appreciated
[08:39] <Mamarok> Zeelot: well, if it's set as a Raid system, you can not just repartition
[08:39] <Zeelot> hardware raid?
[08:40] <Mamarok> especially if it is a hardware raid
[08:40] <Zeelot> argh what do I do
[08:40] <Zeelot> I used gparted to delete the other partitions and expand the ntfs one
[08:40] <Mamarok> hm, no idea, you probably nuked the system
[08:41] <Mamarok> Zeelot: in a raid system you have two physical disks, where one is used as a backup for the first, so if one disk fails, the other is available
[08:41] <Zeelot> why is that? the partitioner in the installer does everything fine, is it just moving partitions and resizing?
[08:41] <Zeelot> it's raid 5
[08:42] <Mamarok> hm, that's the principle of a Raid system, you should have read some doc before
[08:43] <Zeelot> I don't see why it wouldnt work the same way >_>
[08:43] <Mamarok> I'm not a Raid specialist but that doesn't sound a good idea to reparition a hardware raid
[08:43] <Zeelot> raid drives cannot have partitions moved?
[08:44] <Mamarok> Zeelot: as I said, I don't know, did you try to read some doc about raid systems?
[08:44] <Mamarok> let's see if the bot has an idea:
[08:44] <Mamarok> !raid
[08:45] <Mamarok> hm, seems to be about software raid aka fake raid
[08:45] <Zeelot> yea
[08:46] <Mamarok> Zeelot: try to google your raid system with keywords raid, partition
[08:46] <Mamarok> so, buying a 2 TB raid system means you have 1 TB for data available usually
[08:47] <Zeelot> I am taking a look at the drive with recovery software
[08:47] <Mamarok> you should read some doc first, you might make things worse!
[08:47] <Zeelot> no it's raid 5, 4x750GB drives
[08:47] <Alan_Lockwood> Hi.
[08:47] <Mamarok> Zeelot: same problem
[08:47] <Zeelot> so 1 drive is for parity
[08:48] <Alan_Lockwood> Is it possible to install network-manager from the Live-CD (Intrepid) ?
[08:48] <Mamarok> Zeelot: if you wrote your parition table the data is most likely gone
[08:48] <Zeelot> alright
[08:48] <Mamarok> Alan_Lockwood: doesn't it install by default?
[08:48] <Alan_Lockwood> Yes
[08:48] <Zeelot> well the data is there until it's overwritten
[08:49] <Alan_Lockwood> i upgraded it, and it dosnt work
[08:49] <Zeelot> I see it, the partition table is just broken
[08:49] <Alan_Lockwood> its a bug
[08:49] <Alan_Lockwood> I need the old version back
[08:49] <Mamarok> Alan_Lockwood: hm, so you have to be patient, reinstalling it form the CD will not resolve the bug
[08:49] <Alan_Lockwood> Why not? The Cd version worked great
[08:50] <Mamarok> Alan_Lockwood: downgrading is not so easy, you have to remove the current version and load the CD version from the disc, then install the package with dpkg -i
[08:51] <Alan_Lockwood> i removed the actual version (No conection right now in the laptop)
[08:51] <Alan_Lockwood> im hopping the CD save me from reinstaling.
[08:52] <Alan_Lockwood> Wait a minute.
[08:52] <Mamarok> Alan_Lockwood: search the CD and locate the package, then copy it to the laptop and install with dpkg -i
[08:52] <Alan_Lockwood> Is it easy to make a specific program DO NOT upgrade from usual upgrads?
[08:52] <rio_> how do I fix this ?
[08:52] <rio_> W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com intrepid Release: The following signatures
[08:53] <Mamarok> Alan_Lockwood: never did, but you can add a lock to a particular file or just manually choose the packages in Adept (works fine with synaptic)
[08:54] <Mamarok> rio_: what error do you get?
[08:54] <rio_> : GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263
[08:54] <shb> !bluetooth
[08:55] <rio_> no I don't have wine installed I  removed it yesterday
[08:55] <Alan_Lockwood> I dont see any program pkg in the CD
[08:55] <Mamarok> rio_: you can just ignore this message and chosoe to install
[08:55] <Alan_Lockwood> i guess they are all in a heavy few
[08:56] <Mamarok> but be aware that unsigned packages might be dangerous
[08:56] <rio_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:56] <rio_> upon apt-get update
[08:56] <Mamarok> rio_: did you run it with sudo?
[08:57] <rio_> W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com intrepid Release: The following si
[08:57] <rio_> this is with sudo
[08:57] <Mamarok> rio_: are you sure you want to install these packages?
[08:58] <rio_> no I'd rather wanna remove it
[08:58] <rio_> I was about install Gnome environment
[08:58] <rio_> untill KDE probs get fixed
[08:59] <Mamarok> rio_: then you should remove this package source first
[08:59] <rio_> I'm not sure if I properly deinstalled the wine yesterday
[08:59] <rio_> ok
[09:01] <Mamarok> rio_: what kde problems?
[09:02] <rio_> bad gfx
[09:02] <pteague> aptitude purge wine ; rm -fdr ~/.wine
[09:02] <rio_> drop down menys
[09:02] <rio_> menus*
[09:02] <rio_> and right click menus
[09:02] <Mamarok> ? works fine here...
[09:03] <Mamarok> what version of KDE are you talking about?
[09:03] <rio_> I m not sure bout version of KDE
[09:03] <rio_> is there anything I ca do to check version
[09:03] <rio_> I installed Kubuntu few days back
[09:03] <Mamarok> in any app, go to the Help menu and choose about KDE...
[09:04] <rio_> ok
[09:04] <Mamarok> rio_: which version of Kubuntu?
[09:04] <rio_> 3.50.10
[09:04] <rio_> 8.10
[09:04] <rio_> Ibex
[09:04] <Mamarok> and what do you mean by "bad gfx"?
[09:04] <rio_> alfa shows up
[09:04] <rio_> checked gfx
[09:04] <Mamarok> ok, that's KDE 4, you must upgrade to 4.1.3 then
[09:05] <rio_> then texture fills
[09:05] <Mamarok> rio_: I don't understand you, what is gfx?
[09:05] <rio_> graphics
[09:05] <Mamarok> what graphic card do you have?
[09:05] <rio_> intel onboard
[09:05] <Mamarok> rio_: did you upgrade to 4.1.3?
[09:05] <rio_> no I havent
[09:05] <Mamarok> intel onboard works fine AFAIK
[09:06] <Mamarok> do so then, befeore just removing things
[09:06] <Mamarok> *before
[09:06] <rio_> I actully started Gnome instller can I stop it ?
[09:06] <Mamarok> it's likely to be fixed in 4.1.3
[09:07] <Mamarok> hm, gnome installer? you are not removing KDE when installing Gnome, do you know that?
[09:07] <rio_> ok
[09:07] <Mamarok> to install Gnome on an existing set, one just installs ubuntu.desktop
[09:07] <rio_> any way to stop it though ?
[09:08] <Mamarok> rio_: could you be a bit more specific on how you did start a Gnome installer?
[09:08] <rio_> install ubuntu desktop in terminal
[09:08] <rio_> >> sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[09:08] <Mamarok> no problem, you can remove it once it's installed
[09:09] <Mamarok> but don't stop a running pckage install
[09:09] <rio_> ok
[09:09] <rio_> thanks a lot
[09:09] <Mamarok> rio_: instead of installoing and removing, you should read a little about different versions, see www.kubuntu.org
[09:09] <Mamarok> -o
[09:10] <rio_> Well I intent to use KDE therefore I installed Kubuntu
[09:11] <Mamarok> rio_: it's always a good idea to read release notes before installing
[09:11] <rio_> but since version 3 of KDE has bit probs I I wanted to use Gnome
[09:11] <Mamarok> and checking for updates once a version is installed
[09:12] <rio_> ok
[09:12] <Mamarok> rio_: KDE 3.5? Problems?
[09:12] <Mamarok> rio_: be more specific, just installing another desktop environnement will not help solve problems
[09:13] <rio_> hold on konqueror says kde version is 4.1.3
[09:14] <Mamarok> problems with graphic cards are not necessarily solved in an other desktop env., as it depends on drivers and X org, which are the same in Gnome btw.
[09:14] <rio_> and Konversation says its 3.5.10
[09:14] <Mamarok> rio_: Konversation is a kde 3 program, not yet ported to kde 4
[09:14] <rio_> oh
[09:23] <Mamarok> hi jono :)
[09:23] <jono> hey Mamarok
[09:29] <shb> anyone know how to beat the broken bluetooth stack in kde4?
[09:30] <Zeelot> hey im back
[09:31] <Zeelot> I fixed my partition data and see my files (on the partitioning tool) but windows still sees it as RAW (not ntfs) any way to force that back to ntfs?
[09:32] <cllaudyu> what is plasma desktop for...
[09:32] <Mamarok> Zeelot: can you access it from Linux?
[09:33] <cllaudyu> what it its utility?
[09:33] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: it's the default in KDE 4
[09:33] <Zeelot> Mamarok no because it tells me to go to windows and do a chkdsk /f on it to fix errors (which I cant do until windows sees it as ntfs)
[09:33] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: runs the desktop environnement and the widgets
[09:33] <cllaudyu> aha thanks...
[09:34] <Mamarok> Zeelot: do you have data on it you want to recover?
[09:34] <Zeelot> yea lots of it =/
[09:34] <cllaudyu> but when i use a usb cable why isn't it recognized...
[09:35] <cllaudyu> i wanted to transfer some photos from my camera...
[09:35] <RurouniJones> Before you do anything else, if the data is that important I would try and mirror the drive
[09:35] <RurouniJones> or make a copy somehow
[09:35] <Mamarok> Zeelot: wild guess, the fs type is set wrong in the partition table, but I'm not good enough on that one, sry
[09:35] <Zeelot> RurouniJones not possible I dont have that much space anywhere else =(
[09:36] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: that's not plasma handling mounting cameras, you have a widget on the lower left screen
[09:36] <cllaudyu> aha thanks again
[09:36] <cllaudyu> if i close plasma what will go wrong?
[09:36] <RurouniJones> I would say go and buy an HDD if the data is critical, but I can understand your situation. Just be veeeery careful about how you try and fix it
[09:36] <Zeelot> RurouniJones I know it's risky but I want to try and fix the partition table
[09:36] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: how that, close plasma?
[09:36] <cllaudyu> i mean that desktop
[09:37] <cllaudyu> in kde4
[09:37] <Zeelot> it isn't critical just a LOT of things I've gathered over the past
[09:37] <Mamarok> you can't "close" plasma, you can only close KDE4, and it will just log you out
[09:37] <cllaudyu> it has a close button
[09:37] <cllaudyu> i'm not understood
[09:37] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: don't close it unless you want to quit the deskto
[09:37] <Mamarok> *desktop
[09:37] <cllaudyu> ok
[09:37] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: you want to transfer photos you said...
[09:38] <Zeelot> RurouniJones do you know what I should do to try and fix it?
[09:38] <cllaudyu> yes and i wanted to understand plasma as well
[09:38] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: on the lower left of your screen, there's a widget that looks like a computer, it says "last plugged in device" when you hover over it with the mouse
[09:39] <cllaudyu> ooh thank u
[09:39] <cllaudyu> i'l try it know
[09:39] <Mamarok> if your camera is connected and on, it should be seen once you click on that widget, then you can open it with Dolphin
[09:39] <RurouniJones> Zeelot: I don't know enough about this to give any useful advice
[09:40] <cllaudyu> and my webcam... my webcam isn't found on kde
[09:40] <Zeelot> any direction as to who might be able to help me? a channel for this kind of stuff?
[09:40] <cllaudyu> i have a installation cd only for windows
[09:40] <cllaudyu> for my webcam
[09:41] <Mamarok> Zeelot: partitioning is tough, maybe there will be someone later here or try in #ubuntu
[09:41] <cllaudyu> how can i make it to be recognized by kubuntu
[09:41] <Zeelot> Mamarok thanks
[09:41] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: that installation disc will not help, what make is your camera?
[09:41] <wang> hi all
[09:41] <cllaudyu> armedia
[09:41] <kniolet> Zeelot: you may have to use some data recovery service or something like that... i hate when disks get messed up and you lose you data, thats happened to me more than once :-/
[09:42] <cllaudyu> the camera is armedia tipe KSISII
[09:42] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: what is your native language?
[09:42] <cllaudyu> romania
[09:42] <cllaudyu> why?
[09:43] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: because I only found romanian help when I googeld for your camera :)
[09:43] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: wait, I give you the link :)
[09:43] <cllaudyu> aaaa
[09:43] <cllaudyu> it's maybe used only in romania
[09:44] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: not necessarily, it's sometimes only a name that's different
[09:44] <Zeelot> ugh I hate how I can browse all my files with the recovery tool but cant fix the partition enough to actively browse my drive
[09:44] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: see here: http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?showtopic=407383
[09:44] <cllaudyu> aha...
[09:44] <Mamarok> Zeelot: in that recovery tool, there should be an option to set the FS type I guess
[09:45] <comedit> can't find out why my sent mail from imap accounts keeps being displayed in my local folders and not in sent folders per imap account  in Kontact
[09:45] <cllaudyu> i saw it
[09:45] <Zeelot> Mamarok I did and linux sees it fine as NTFS, the tool sees it as NTFS...but windows doesnt and that's the only thing I need
[09:46] <Mamarok> comedit: because you did send it from Kmail locally, so that's normal
[09:46] <RurouniJones> Why not just get your files in linux?
[09:46]  * booleancat thinks it funny that Linux can possibly handle NTFS better than win in this case
[09:46]  * Mamarok is not surprised
[09:46] <cllaudyu> i have another camera... a genius digital camera with webcam function... maybe that will work on kubuntu?
[09:46] <Zeelot> RurouniJones because it's an ntfs drive and I cannot mount it in linux in it's current state
[09:47] <RurouniJones> Tried one of those HDD to USB converters?
[09:47] <comedit> Mamarok: is there a way that it uses the servers sending so i will see it also from remote places what i have sent ?
[09:47] <RurouniJones> or are you talking about software state
[09:47] <Zeelot> linux just keeps saying go to windows and fix it then come back
[09:47] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: on Linux you just need the drivers for the camera, did you search for your camera with Google? that's how I cam accross the first one...
[09:47] <RurouniJones> Roigh
[09:47] <cllaudyu> i searched but did not found any driver
[09:47] <Mamarok> comedit: check your settings for sending then
[09:48] <cllaudyu> for armedia i mean
[09:48] <cllaudyu> i gues i will find for genius
[09:48] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: unfortunately not all devices have free drivers
[09:48] <cllaudyu> i know that...
[09:48] <cllaudyu> then i will not be able to use my webcam
[09:48] <comedit> Mamarok: i did but i got stuck i will check the settings once more
[09:49] <Mamarok> comedit: if you use sendmail for sending it's local, choose smtp to use your server
[09:49] <cllaudyu> ok... thanks for the info...
[09:50] <Mamarok> :)
[09:50] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: in any case, there's also a Romanian channel for hel:
[09:50] <Mamarok> !ro | cllaudyu
[09:50] <Mamarok> *hel even
[09:50] <cllaudyu> know that too but it's empty
[09:50] <Mamarok> *help
[09:50] <cllaudyu> !desktop
[09:50] <comedit> Mamarok: they are all set to smtp but still the sent messages do not appear in my sent items
[09:50] <Mamarok> well, sometimes one has to be patient, especially on Monday mornings :)
[09:51] <cllaudyu> by the wya where r u from
[09:51] <Mamarok> comedit: no idea then, you might send yourself a copy to have it on your server then
[09:52] <Mamarok> comedit: did you try to ask in #kdepim?
[09:52] <Mamarok> cllaudyu: from Switzerland
[09:53] <cllaudyu> i want to use Konversation for other servers ... but can't find the way to do it...
[09:53] <comedit> yeah thought about that to but, i don't like these types of work arounds
[09:53] <Mamarok> ok folks, I'm afk, later
[09:53] <cllaudyu> i'm gonna go... bye
[09:54] <brmassa> Guy, my K3B is failing every time i try to burn a DVD, saying "flushing the cache may take some time". Ahy clue
[09:59] <jussi01> brmassa: how long did you leave it for?
[10:03] <brmassa> jussi01: what do you mean? long it takes before fail?
[10:04] <brmassa> jussi01: not much, on a 3.5GB project, it fails before 15%
[10:20] <ubuntu> erm
[10:20] <ubuntu> I'd like to bitch about something that is free
[10:21] <ubuntu> Kubuntu doesnt have enough twirly knob's or buttons to press
[10:23] <shadeslayer> ubuntu:i think it has enough of them lol
[10:26] <brmassa> jussi01: managed to make it work. just a  note: only when it was data DVD. making an ISO and then burn works
[10:30] <william> I used to be able to right click on a folder under kde 3.5 and share it over the network. Has this functionality gone from kde 4.1 or do I need to install a package?
[10:34] <ubuntu> William: you need more twirly knobs and buttons
[10:35] <william> haha
[10:37] <william> Why does Adept not list all the availalble packages that apt-get does?
[10:37] <william> e.g: I had to use apt-get to install postgresql because it was not listed under Adept
[10:37] <comedit> william: install synaptic
[10:38] <ubuntu> Would anyone care to tell me how to reinstall grub? Vista killed grub, its coming up with an error 17 message
[10:38] <SlimeyPete> !grubfix
[10:38] <SlimeyPete> !grub
[10:39] <ubuntu> cheers, should be able to figure it out from there :)
[10:39] <william> eww, synaptic is not a qt app
[10:39] <william> ugly
[10:39] <booleancat> Anyone here know why the alt-f2 menu doesn't accept <RET> if you type the whole program name (all -1 char works fine...)
[10:39] <SlimeyPete> william: adept is the equivalent for QT
[10:40] <comedit> william: some people are ugly to but work better then beautiful ones
[10:40] <SlimeyPete> ah, I see, you already found adept
[10:41] <SlimeyPete> adept *should* show all the same packages. I tuses the same database.
[10:41] <SlimeyPete> sounds like a bug.
[10:41] <william> comeedit, hahaha
[10:42] <comedit> synaptic shows more i don't know why exactly
[10:43] <william> ah, adept is fairly new apparently (compared to synaptic)
[10:44] <william> so not quite feature parity yet, and some bugs... synaptic does list more packages
[10:45] <william> what do I install for mp3 support in xine? thats the amarok backend I am using.
[10:45] <william> sorry, I suppose I should google this stuff instead of bugging you people
[10:46] <booleancat> william: libxine1-ffmpeg
[10:46] <booleancat> it's in universe, i believe
[10:47] <william> it's weird that is not a required dependency of amarok
[10:48] <william> what's the point of amarok without mp3 support
[10:48] <booleancat> It's not weird, it's political
[10:48] <william> cool
[10:49] <jussi01> william: installing kubuntu-restricted-extras gets you most of theose proprietary common stuff. flash. mp3 support, java etc
[10:49] <booleancat> It's /probably/ illegal to use it in the US
[10:49] <booleancat> but everyone else is doing it!
[10:49] <william> those guys in the US need to sort out their laws
[10:49] <william> isn't it supposed to be the land of the free?
[10:49] <booleancat> yes we do... badly :(
[10:50] <ubuntu> hmm
[10:50] <ubuntu> Is anyone brave enough to help a retard with grub problems?
[10:50] <jussi01> ubuntu: just ask and we will see
[10:50] <ubuntu> Tried following the help guide jobby and its coming up error 27
[10:50] <booleancat> ubuntu: depends... how retarded?
[10:51] <ubuntu> Well, if I were to say that vista has borked my grub, and I've just followed the help guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub and Im coming to the setting root(hd0,5) bit and its coming up with an error 27 message
[10:51] <comedit> can't find out why my sent mail from imap accounts keeps being displayed in my local folders and not in sent folders per imap account in Kontact
[10:52] <jussi01> comedit: because its stored locally, not on the imap server
[10:52] <comedit> yeah but how can i do that
[10:53] <booleancat> ubuntu: is hd0, partition 5 (remember, start counting at 0...) the linux partition?
[10:53] <comedit> It want to be able to see remotely what i have sent per account
[10:53] <rio__> Installing Gnome on Kubuntu only means installing few Gnome apps and depedencyz right ?
[10:53] <tictric> comedit: in the settings for the identity in extended tab
[10:53] <ubuntu> I believe so, thats what the command find boot/grub/stage1 command returned
[10:54] <tictric> comedit: if you use KMail, that is
[10:55] <comedit> ah now I see it (advanced instead of extended btw) thanks !
[10:55] <william> jussi01, thank you for that kubuntu-restricted-extras tip... awesome
[10:55] <booleancat> so, the "root (hd0, 5)" command is giving the error?
[10:55] <comedit> tictric: i will change imeediately
[10:56] <william> why are you trying to put grub onto your partition 5?
[10:56] <william> why not put it on you MBR (hd0,0)
[10:57] <william> are you not using Grub to boot your system?
[10:57]  * booleancat wonders why gamers insist on being interested in linux...
[10:57] <ubuntu> William: as stated before, I am a retard
[10:57] <sara_> hello
[10:58] <sara_> i need help
[10:58] <sara_> anyboby can help me
[10:58] <sara_> '
[10:58] <booleancat> Error 27 is unrecognized command... are you typing everything correctly?
[10:58] <ubuntu> I am using dual boot, but alas vista seems to kill grub, so I wont be in future, I only booted into vista to try play some poker :(
[10:58] <william> well, in order for your system to boot from grup you will need to install it in the Master Boot Record of one of your drives
[10:58] <booleancat> sara_: It's generally better to just ask your question. If we can/want to help, we will
[10:58] <ubuntu> more than likely not booleancat, im a retard remember
[10:58] <william> so (hd0, 0) for the first drive in your system
[10:59] <ubuntu> right, I'll just type root(hd0,0) then aye?
[10:59] <william> yes.
[10:59] <ubuntu> nah, still error 27
[10:59] <william> do you have 2 drives in your system?
[11:00] <sara_> i've got an old laptop whith 12mB ram . which kind of distro can i install on it ?
[11:00] <booleancat> ? this is from the grub prompt, right?
[11:00] <ubuntu> erm, yes but one is not plugged in
[11:00] <sara_> (i'm new by sorry....)
[11:00] <ubuntu> yes, from the grub prompt
[11:00] <sara_> 128 ops....
[11:00] <william> ubuntu, error 27 is 'Unrecognized command'
[11:00] <booleancat> sara_: Look into DSL (d**n small linux)
[11:00] <william> are you just typing it into your bash command prompt?
[11:00] <william> or are you actually in grub?
[11:01] <ubuntu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[11:01] <sara_> booleancat:  ubuntu isn't possible ?
[11:01] <william> ie, did you previously type 'sudo grub'
[11:01] <ubuntu> grub> root(hd0,0)
[11:01] <ubuntu> root(hd0,0)
[11:01] <ubuntu> Error 27: Unrecognized command
[11:01] <ubuntu> yup
[11:01] <william> ubuntu, that is not a command
[11:01] <booleancat> sara_: oh, you said 128MB, not 12... then any of the *buntus would probably work
[11:01] <booleancat> I think you'll need a special install disc though
[11:01] <ubuntu> what? I typed root(hd0,0)
[11:01] <sara_> booleancat: which flavour ?
[11:01] <ubuntu> that not gonna work?
[11:02] <booleancat> sara_: With that amount of RAM, probably Xubuntu
[11:02] <sara_> booleancat: sorry form my english :(
[11:02] <booleancat> What's your native language?
[11:02] <sara_> booleancat: italian
[11:02] <booleancat> !it
[11:03] <sara_> booleancat: i've got an live cd.... that's form my mum. i don't want use win millennium...
[11:03] <william>  ubuntu, there is a space between 'root (hd0,0)
[11:03] <william> 'root (hd0,0)'
[11:03] <sara_> !it
[11:03] <booleancat> sara_: Can't blame you :) is it an Xubuntu live cd?
[11:04] <sara_> booleancat: yes .. whai i'm searching for..
[11:04] <ubuntu> ok
[11:04] <sara_> booleancat: now i'm on a asus eeepc ... damn keyboard...
[11:05] <sara_> b
[11:05] <ubuntu> is everyone else just thinking 'thank fuck im not on an eeepc with its small keyboard and stupidly slowness?'
[11:05] <sara_> booleancat: i've got xbuntu 7.10 live cd
[11:05] <jussi01> !ohmy | ubuntu
[11:05] <booleancat> the livecd needs 192MB of RAM to install
[11:06] <sara_> booleancat:  doh!
[11:06] <ubuntu> Williams, booleancat, I believe I have sorted it, thankyou very much for your help :)
[11:07] <booleancat> ubuntu: Best of luck with that :)
[11:07] <ubuntu> heheh
[11:07] <ubuntu> IM SPESHAL!!
[11:07] <ubuntu> now im off to reboot :)
[11:07]  * booleancat STILL hasn't used Vista enough to judge it...
[11:07] <ubuntu> erm
[11:07] <ubuntu> I have
[11:08] <ubuntu> some good ideas, and to be fair its not as bad as everyone says, the whole asking the user before they run an app/file is probably a good idea
[11:08] <sara_> booleancat: other ideas ?
[11:08] <booleancat> I've been *nix only for probably at least 7 years now
[11:08] <ubuntu> the menu is terrible tho
[11:08] <rio__> Do I need to install Graphic drivers to run KDE properly ?
[11:08] <ubuntu> Im quite liking kubuntu, the only problem I have is that the windows/buttons are not always drawn nicely with gtk
[11:09] <sara_> !it
[11:09] <ubuntu> its the way forward tho, windows is getting worse and worse, Mac OSX only have one mouse button so its kubuntu time
[11:09] <agung> hi all...!!! how to playing mp3 for kde.?
[11:09] <booleancat> sara_: Not really, DSL is *really* small... I was hoping xubuntu only needed 128MB ram
[11:10] <ubuntu> You should get MC Hammer to sing 'KUBUNTU TIME!'
[11:10] <booleancat> !mp3
[11:10] <ubuntu> !imageekandcantgetlaid
[11:11]  * booleancat is a geek and can get laid
[11:11] <ubuntu> pretty good answer, considering
[11:11] <booleancat> true
[11:11] <ubuntu> My timing is not good
[11:11] <ubuntu> plus the line 'I'd quite happily drown a bagfull of kittens' is not a good chat up line
[11:12] <booleancat> true... I find that not wanting to get laid is a pretty surefire way to get girls... only problem is not wanting them
[11:12] <ubuntu> ah, the ignore them paradigm
[11:12] <booleancat> yeah
[11:13] <booleancat> kinda... I'm nice and all. I just don't want to sex0r
[11:13] <booleancat> Throws them off guard
[11:13] <ubuntu> The amount of drunk or intoxicated girls I could have had :/
[11:14] <ubuntu> makes me kinda sick that I dont do drunk girls :/
[11:14] <booleancat> ditto, actually
[11:14] <booleancat> meeting girls at the bar is lame... they're all drunkies
[11:14] <ubuntu> when in reality, for a lass to even get into bed with me she's gonna have to have drank a fair bit, im no pretty thing
[11:15] <ubuntu> girls are drunkards, and hobags and generally not very nice people
[11:15] <booleancat> I've at least got that going for me... I hear I'm quite a handsome man. Loud and offensive in public, but I look good doing it ;)
[11:16] <ubuntu> anyhow, as Keyser Soze would say; 'And like that, he was gone'
[11:21] <rio__> do I need to install graphics driver to run KDE properly ?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:21] <rio__> I currently installed Gnome over KDE
[11:23] <rit> And Im back
[11:23] <rit> thankyou booleancat and william, all sorted :)
[11:58] <doc__> hi there
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> yo
[12:19] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: hi
[12:54] <Mahdi> hi,does anybody here knows if the knetworkmanagaer problem with pptp vpn is solved in kde 4.2 or not?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Com: i use neither so couldnt say, maybe someone else can
[13:09] <ocs> (kubuntu 8.04) Hi. how can I make a folder samba-shared ? I tried the "share" folder option from konqueror but it doesn't work....)
[13:10] <Rio_t> hello How do create home dir for another users. I have created a user account but i cant login with that 2nd user account.
[13:10] <Dr_willis_> how did you make the user?
[13:10] <Dr_willis_> normally it makes a home dir for them
[13:10] <Rio_t> from Kuser or something like that
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> ocs: i can show you my smb.conf, its childishl simple to write
[13:10] <Dr_willis_> i just do 'sudo adduser billgates' or whatever
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> ocs: make sure you run: sudo smbpasswd <your user name> and type your login password 3 times
[13:11] <Rio_t> ok thanks but wat will happen to currently created 2nd account
[13:12] <Dr_willis_> Rio_t,  no idea.. if it dosent even have a home.. you could just make a home directroy
[13:12] <Dr_willis_> sudo mkdir /home/USERNAME
[13:12] <ocs> ActionParsnip:
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> ocs: http://pastebin.com/f160ab307
[13:12] <Dr_willis_> sudo chown username.username /home/USERNAME
[13:12] <ocs> Failed to find entry for user root.
[13:12] <ocs> Failed to modify password entry for user root
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> ocs: you dont have root, you use your account
[13:12] <Dr_willis_> You really dont want the root user to be accessing samba shares directtly
[13:12] <Dr_willis_> :)
[13:13] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: Dr_willis_: will you be here next 6 hours or so?
[13:13] <ocs> ActionParsnip: anyway, it's hard to configure samba shared resources in this way...
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T: possibly
[13:13] <ocs> isnt' there a GUI utility ?
[13:13] <Dr_willis_> Tm_T,  perhaps another 2 hrs
[13:13] <ocs> with kde3 I did all by gui
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> ocs: i just dont like it, if you read my smb.conf at the bottom you will see my config
[13:13] <Dr_willis_> I find samba very easy to configure.. but i did take the time and read the 'using samba' book.
[13:14] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: Dr_willis_: ok, if anyone asks why Kopete fails to connect MSN, blame MS server having quirks
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> ocs: the thing in the brackets is the share name
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> ocs: the rest is self explanatory
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T: i despise both
[13:14] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: still if anyone asks, now you know the answer
[13:14] <ocs> ActionParsnip: let's try, thnks
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> ocs: remember to run: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> ocs: after each time you modify the file
[13:16] <Dr_willis_> actually.. Im not sure you need to restart samba :) but it wont hurt.
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> ocs: you'll need kdesudo kate / sudo nano (or whatever cli editor you use) to edit it
[13:16] <Dr_willis_> I alwyas enable the HOME shares in the smb.conf also
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willisit needs to reload the config file after its editted doesnt it?
[13:16] <xp-killer> my friend want to install kubuntu and try out compiz but dont have internet to download compiz,how can i bring compiz to him?
[13:16] <Dr_willis_> ActionParsnip,  i was thinking it 'sees' the config has been changed.. and reloads it..
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willisthats off my fileserver so I have a centralised store for EVERYTHING
[13:17] <Dr_willis_> xp-killer,  you are better off not using compiz with kde4
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis_: oic, nice
[13:17] <Dr_willis_> ActionParsnip,  :) at one time - yes ya did have to restart it.. but i dont think so any more - fior samba at least
[13:17] <xp-killer> Dr_willis_: kde4?
[13:17] <xp-killer> Dr_willis_: why not?
[13:18] <Dr_willis_> xp-killer,  you would also need the proper 3d video card drivers.  - kde4 has its own eyecandy. you dont need to use compiz with it.
[13:18] <ocs> ActionParsnip: I don't have   /etc/init.d/samba restart
[13:18] <Dr_willis_> plus compix + kde4 = can be very annoying experioence
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> ocs: sudo apt-get install samba
[13:18] <Dr_willis_> ocs,  you dont ahve the samba package/server installed then
[13:18] <xp-killer> Dr_willis_: eye candy thing have the cube and all?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> compiz can be very annoying
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> period
[13:18] <Dr_willis_> xp-killer,  too much eyecandy causes Ocular-cavaties
[13:19] <xp-killer> Dr_willis_: no time to play im serious
[13:19] <ocs> ah sorry. I thought it was installed by default
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> !info samba
[13:19] <xp-killer> Dr_willis_: where can i get the deb file compiz?
[13:19] <Dr_willis_> xp-killer,   serious about what then?    there is no 'single' deb file for compiz.
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> ocs: not everyone needs file sharing, hence optional
[13:20] <Dr_willis_> xp-killer,  you would need to get your 3d video card drivers going.. and then isntall  all the needed bits for compiz.
[13:20] <xp-killer> Dr_willis_: then when u install stuff where do the deb files go?
[13:20] <Dr_willis_>  - /var/cache/apt  i think
[13:20] <Dr_willis_> or var/apt/cache ?  somthing like that
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[13:21] <Dr_willis_> thats where it downloads the .debs to. befor it isntalls them
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: if you havent installed video drivers its not gonna work
[13:21] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: no i want it for a friend who dont have internet
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> !aptoncd
[13:21] <Dr_willis_> You woudl be much better off bringing his PC somewher where he can have the internet then.
[13:22] <Pici> !offline | is also handy
[13:22] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: yes it will cause kubuntu comes with default drivers that had work with me without installig drivers
[13:22] <Dr_willis_> default driver for what video card?
[13:22] <xp-killer> i tink it was an ati
[13:22] <Dr_willis_> ati and nvidia both will most likely not work - without their propitary drivers for compiz.
[13:23] <xp-killer> it was when i was on 7.10
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: then use aptoncd to get compizconfig-settings-manager on a cd so you can put it on the non networked pc
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: id suggest getting it hooked up while you get it installed for ease sake
[13:23] <Dr_willis_> comiz uses the '3d'  drivers..  -  so it needs them for all the eyecandy effects
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: well if its not 7.10 it might not be the same
[13:23] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: can ps3 run compiz?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: not sure, id imagine so
[13:24] <xp-killer> no i give him 8.10
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: then its not 7.10 so it may be different, no harm in installing packages though to test
[13:24] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: does it have kubuntu for ps3 the one i instal was ubuntu wasnt to happy with it
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: if its no good, you're gonna need more work
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> !ps3
[13:25] <xp-killer> lol
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> !playstation
[13:25] <xp-killer> need to update that robot lol
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_3&ei=wERrSeKLGITU8wTppPzJBw&usg=AFQjCNFqcan3CNIGltPKTGwkzjwCXOTrjg
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> i hate google
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> http://psubuntu.com/
[13:26] <xp-killer> cool tanks i didnt see kubuntu for the ps3 2007
[13:26] <xp-killer> it didnt had it
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: you can install kde goodness on ubunu then remove the gnome stuff
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> i'd use fluxbox personally but thats my 2p worth
[13:28] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: yea did that but it still had it it ways of doing stufff different it wasnt the same as kubuntu
[13:28] <xp-killer> what do they mean by  No Desktop Link Found
[13:28] <SlimeyPete> xp-killer: it should've been identical. did you install the kubuntu-desktop package?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: how do you get the error?
[13:29] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: its not an error
[13:29] <xp-killer> wow this is DDL stuuf cool
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> ddl?
[13:29] <xp-killer> no torent
[13:29] <xp-killer> direct download
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> get it via http or ftp
[13:29] <xp-killer> no here is good
[13:30] <xp-killer> ddl
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: make sure you md5 check all the isos you download
[13:31] <xp-killer> wat is md5?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: makes sure what you downloaded hasnt been corrupted in transport
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: and slipped by your transport layer in tcp
[13:32] <xp-killer> :s
[13:33] <xp-killer> i dont understand your language
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: you download stuff from the web
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> it may not be 100% correct
[13:34] <xp-killer> i know
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> as the data passes it may encounter noise and faulty network sockets
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> this can damage the data
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> when you recieve each packet the parity is checked
[13:34] <xp-killer> ok now i understand lol
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> but this is not enough especially something as critical as an operating system
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> so there is an MD5 sum of the iso on the same place you download from
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> you compare the sum to the sum you calculate from your downloaded data, if they match then the data you have downloaded is correct
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> you can also have burning jitters and errors which can be reduced by burning as slowly as possible
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> the cd also has a tool to check it again to make sure the data is spot on
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> this can reduce issues with the installation process as well as the installed system itself
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> you get folks wo blindly burn and install systems with unchecked media then are suprised when it doesnt work and they say "ubuntu sucks"
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> thne i tell them to check stuff and its all bad so i say "they suck"
[13:38] <xp-killer> lol
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> if you can md5 check, do so
[13:39] <rio__> Ok I created new account but now new account created using almost same dir old dir guest and new is Guest
[13:40] <rio__> how do I del old dir
[13:40] <rio__> it says cant del
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> rio__: make sure you need nothing in the folder at all including all sub directorys
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> rio__: then sudo rm -rf /path/to/folder
[13:40] <rio__> no it was empty
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> rio__: rm -rf is HUGELY aggressive so watch w you use it
[13:41] <rio__> I did same but says no persmission
[13:41] <rio__> I m admin
[13:41] <rio__> yet cant
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> rio__: is the folder in use as a home dir right now? you will need to log off and on to get the new home dir
[13:43] <rio__> no
[13:43] <rio__> it never was home folder
[13:43] <rio__> I manually created it
[13:43] <rio__> so Guest account can log in
[13:43] <rio__> but i never succeeded that way
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> rio__: oh jeez, guest accounts are ripe for attacks
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> rio__: does guest account have a password setup?
[13:44] <rio__> now guest home folder is called Guest
[13:44] <rio__> yes
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> thank god
[13:44] <ddurham> what's the meta key in kde4?
[13:44] <ddurham> I've tried the "windows" and "menu" keys
[13:44] <rio__> but dir was owned by my account
[13:44] <ddurham> hmm, nm, just found it
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> rio__: sudo chown -R guest /folder/path
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> rio__: thats because i'm guessing you are logged in as root
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> rio__: am i right/
[13:46] <rio__> no I m logged in as rio
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> good
[13:46] <rio__> admin
[13:47] <somekool> are kde4.2 rc1 packages in preparation?
[13:47] <rio__> and guest dir is owned by root
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> rio__: sudo chown -R guest /path/folder
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> rio__: remember tat if the username has been added as Guest then you must use Guest
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> rio__: Linux is CasE SenSITivE
[13:50] <rio__> I figured that out
[13:51] <rio__> I think I ll leave that dir alone for while. Thanks for the help
[13:52] <sidney> where can i find the audigy sound drivers
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> sidney: what audigy thing do you have?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> sidney: if you run lspci, one line will tell you
[13:53] <sidney> audigy2
[13:53] <ddurham> anyone know of any truly useful desktop widgets for kde?
[13:53] <ddurham> kde4
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> ddurham: its individual, there is no universal answer
[13:54] <sidney> i tried that they are not listed
[13:54] <sidney> but the card is
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> sidney: whats the line outputted for the audigy?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> sidney: btw, creative suck at all support, even windows
[13:56] <ddurham> ActionParsnip: thanks, kde-look.org has a good selection of these?  Are they called plasmoids?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> ddurham: yeah i believe so
[13:56] <sidney> could someone post pastebin link
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> sidney: i only want the single line, not the whole thing
[13:57] <sidney> 	Kernel driver in use: EMU10K1_Audigy
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> sidney: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> sidney: run lspci and paste the output to that
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/sound-blaster-audigy-2-zs-337513/&ei=i0trSf7RMKCu8ASWkdSsBw&usg=AFQjCNHCn1lBsMRkfg_Cy_caN95FeVw98A
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> ahhh damn you google
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> i hate google
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/sound-blaster-audigy-2-zs-337513/
[14:00] <sidney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/103923/
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> sidney: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249798
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> sidney: creative dont know their arse from their elbow when it comes to support
[14:07] <sidney> i'm reading the forum now
[14:12] <malik_> hi guys
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> hi malik_
[14:13] <malik_> I got a wird situation with the kde4 desktop
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> malik_: wassup
[14:15] <P4o3n1x> is it a known bug, that kde has strange graphic bugs when starting up on the EeePC? i have misplaced pixels on both sides of the login screen
[14:15] <malik_> after intallation it was working good, but suddenly when I try to open the home folder from the toolbar, it opens amarok, not dolph as I would like
[14:16] <malik_> any Idea
[14:16] <malik_> ?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> malik_: if you right click the folder the select open with you could make it open with your favourite file browser
[14:16] <ddurham> is there a replacement for libplasma2?
[14:17] <ddurham> I see that listed as a dependency for something, but apt-get install libplasma2 says it's not available
[14:17] <ddurham> E: Package libplasma2 has no installation candidate
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> ddurham: try: apt-cache search plasma | grep lib
[14:18] <ddurham> that comes back with the other 2: libplasma1, and libplasma-dev
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> P4o3n1x: i'd ask in #kde if you suspect kde
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> ddurham: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid-backports/libs/libplasma2
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> ddurham: download the deb from there and install
[14:20] <enzo> hi
[14:20] <enzo> i've seen dvd+rw-tools handle blu-ray, so do you know if k3b can burn on blu-ray ?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> enzo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning#Blu-Ray%20Burning
[14:21] <enzo> ok thanks ActionParsnip !
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> enzo: no gui app does it
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> enzo: you can use dvd+rw-tools
[14:21] <enzo> and you know if this is in the roadmap of k3b ?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> enzo: i'd imagine it is
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> enzo: email the devs
[14:22] <ddurham> looks like libplasma2 conflicts with libplasma1,  I
[14:22] <ddurham> I'm going to leave this be for now
[14:22] <ddurham> ActionParsnip: thanks
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> ddurham: np man
[14:22] <enzo> ok ActionParsnip, thanks
[14:29] <vmt> Hello all :) I have 8.04 and want to enable a module at boottime. Now Im missing chkconfig. What is now the correct way to load a module at boottime? Can someone help?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> vmt: kdesudo kate /etc/modules
[14:31] <vmt> hmm, okay I will try. But where is chkconfig gone?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> vmt: type the name of the module in that list, press enter on the end of it, save and close kate, job done
[14:31] <malik_> guys, when I click on the QuickAccess menu and try to open any folder it runs amarok instead of dolph, is it any kind of bug???Could someone help???
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> vmt: i dunno what chkconfig is personally
[14:32] <vmt> hmm or was it on suse? Cant remember ;)
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> !info chkconfig
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> vmt: sudo apt-get install chkconfig
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> vmt: its optional, thats why you aint got it
[14:36] <vmt> okay, thanks!
[14:41] <julo> hello
[14:49] <dwidmann> say, in vlc 0.9.x, I can't get opengl vout to work, is there any way to get it working?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, gewtting the latest vlc to do any thing right is an accomplishment , it's totally screwed up , the older versions work much better
[14:51] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: well, I've got both installed for a reason.
[14:52] <BluesKaj> use the older one
[14:52] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: 'less you know a way to get the ati catalyst to sync to vblank with non-opengl things, which I can't seem to figure out (this is the real root of the problem, very frustrating)
[14:54] <BluesKaj> dwidmann are you using the restricted "recommended" ati driver ?
[14:54] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: I'm using the latest from their website, nothing older will work (newish card)
[14:54] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:55] <BluesKaj> this won't help but I thought nvidia would solve my ati probs ...only to some degree ,,the prob lies deeper than the hardware , I think.
[14:56] <ghostcube> hmm i solced my LinGL.so problem the nvidia-glx-180 package seems to kill the libGl.so on 64 bit
[14:56] <ghostcube> so u need to reinstall libg1-mesa-dev
[14:57] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: the problem isn't the hardware generally ... it's at least partly the drivers, but who knows, might be more of a problem than that in there too
[14:59] <JuJuBee> My daily cron is not executing properly...  run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/apt exited with return code 1  What does this error mean?  Where can I check to see why failing?
[14:59] <f_aichele> JuJuBee: Try /var/log/cron*
[15:01] <JuJuBee> f_aichele: hmmm, no such file.
[15:02] <f_aichele> What does dpkg -L anacron|grep "var" show?
[15:02] <julo> c ou en francais?
[15:03] <JuJuBee> /var, /var/spool, /var/spool/anacron
[15:03] <f_aichele> Cron package not logging? Hm...
[15:03] <f_aichele> Usually there should be separate logfiles under /var/log.
[15:04] <f_aichele> At least as far as I remember from pre-Kubuntu (i. e. Debian) days.
[15:05] <JuJuBee> Seems correct since there is a log rotate function for cron.daily...
[15:05] <william> my picture frame does not work on my desktop
[15:05] <william> it looks all garbled
[15:05] <william> do I need to install something to get it working?
[15:06] <JuJuBee> f_aichele: I wil ltry in #ubuntu...
[15:09] <solid_liq> !ping
[15:15] <ocs> hi. I'm trying to share a folder with samba. I have changed the smb.conf file and I can see a small icon on my folder which indicates that the folder is shared. but I can't access it with smb://my_ip/my_folder ....
[15:18] <ghostcube> ocs, you can try to install swat to configure samba from youre browser as root
[15:22] <ocs> ghostcube: just installed. and now ?
[15:22] <ghostcube> sudo /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetserver start
[15:22] <ghostcube> ehm no wait
[15:22] <ghostcube> typo
[15:23] <ghostcube> ocs sudo /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd start
[15:23] <ghostcube> then you must set an password for root
[15:23] <ghostcube> sudo passwd
[15:24] <ghostcube> then open youre browser and type
[15:24] <ghostcube> <IP_ADDRESS>:901 it will spawn the liogin window login as root
[15:24] <ghostcube> then u can edit all u want
[15:25] <ocs> thanks ghostcube
[15:25] <ghostcube> ocs, no prob
[15:25] <ghostcube> the swat tool is made by the samba guys so its well documented too if u have any probs
[15:29] <ocs> ghostcube: I have configured the shared resource again, but the problem remains
[15:29] <ghostcube> you set the workgroup correct ?
[15:29] <ghostcube> and have u enabled an user in the password section
[15:29] <ghostcube> u can set there an user for smbpasswd
[15:30] <ghostcube> try to add youre main user to samba
[15:30] <ghostcube> and then after this restart the servers in the status section
[15:31] <rio__> How do I get rid of Ubuntu logon screen ? I installedd Gnome to try out but I wish to remove it.
[15:31] <ghostcube> logon screen ?
[15:31] <rio__> login screen
[15:31] <rio__> where you put password
[15:31] <rio__> and nick
[15:32] <ghostcube> ah what do u want to have there ?
[15:32] <rio__> no I kinda had probs with KDE so I thought of installing Gnome
[15:32] <rio__> but now probs solved
[15:32] <rio__> I dont need Gnome
[15:32] <ocs> It seems all ok, but I doesn't allow me to access the shared resource
[15:33] <ghostcube> ocs, hmmm
[15:33] <rio__> now when I login Kubuntu it shows me ubuntu login screen
[15:33] <ghostcube> rio__, ahhh sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-destop
[15:33] <ghostcube> rio__, ahhh sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[15:33] <rio__> done
[15:33] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get remove gdm
[15:33] <rio__> yet login screen shows all options KDE or Gnome switchin
[15:35] <rio__> is it advisable to keep all the Gnome apps (about 500 MB) that auto installed during gnome installtion
[15:36] <ocs> in addition, when I type smb://localhost the browser crashes
[15:37] <ghostcube> ocs, what clients do you have only linux or winows too ?
[15:38] <ocs> ghostcube: windows too... otherwise I wouldn't use samba
[15:38] <ghostcube> :) macosx
[15:38] <ghostcube> hehe
[15:38] <ghostcube> ocs, ok u can try to do in the command execution box of xp or vista to set this
[15:38] <ghostcube> \\iptoserver/folder
[15:39] <ghostcube> \\ipserver should bring up the terminal to login
[15:39] <ocs> ghostcube: and what would be the result ? I have already tried from another linux machine, and it doesn't work
[15:40] <ghostcube> ocs, hmm i dont get the problem it should be working
[15:41] <akmyint> hi
[15:42] <ocs> ghostcube: nor do I :)
[15:42] <ghostcube> ocs, heh
[15:43] <ghostcube> do you see the server in the networking area of windows
[15:43] <ghostcube> its just that u cantlogin with youre password and username or ?
[15:43] <ghostcube> hmm have you activated the user u added to samba
[15:44] <ghostcube> and restarted the servers
[15:44] <ghostcube> maybe you can post the smb.conf to pastebin.ca
[15:44] <ghostcube> *com
[15:47] <slow-motion> hi
[15:48] <ocs> ghostcube: finally i succeeded... I left some trash in smb.conf
[15:48] <ghostcube> oh ok :)
[15:49] <ocs> well, now swat works greatly, thamks ghostcube
[15:49] <ghostcube> ocs, np :)
[16:01] <lovely> does anyone know what the kicker is now being called in 8.10?
[16:01] <dwidmann> lovely: plasma
[16:01] <JontheEchidna> lovely: kicker and kdesktop were both replaced by plasma
[16:02] <lovely> I acidentally removed it from the desktop, (way to easy to do by the way) and cant get it started up again. any suggestions
[16:03] <Tm_T> lovely: just add a panel
[16:03] <lovely> ???
[16:03] <Tm_T> lovely: right click on desktop
[16:03] <vbgunz> does anyone know why composing a message in kmail is painfully painfully slow? I see every letter almost a second after I type it :(
[16:03] <lovely> Ahh
[16:03] <Tm_T> lovely: then add applets you like to be there and so on
[16:03] <lovely> I feel dumb, good morning
[16:04] <lovely> and thank you
[16:05] <eagles0513875> morning Tm_T
[16:05] <Tm_T> morning eagles0513875
[16:06] <vbgunz> christ almighty, kmail composing is a nightmare... anyone know what could be wrong?
[16:07] <Tm_T> vbgunz: works just fine here
[16:07] <vbgunz> Tm_T: thats awesome
[16:08] <sidney> Anyone here know if mint is less troublesome
[16:10] <eagles0513875> !info mint | sidney
[16:10] <eagles0513875> !mint
[16:10] <eagles0513875> !mintsupport | sidney
[16:11] <lovely> Tm_T:  is there a simple way to get the panel back to the bottom of the screen?
[16:11] <lovely> Tm_T: I tried adding again and they stack
[16:13] <lovely> does anyone know where to look to see about moving items within the plasma panel, I am finding nothing usefull for that so far...
[16:27] <Tm_T> !plasma
[16:33] <Nasj> !plasmoid
[16:42] <student022> Hi! I have installed Ubuntu8.04 on server B and run the gnome desktop on B, accessing it with nxclient from A. When I open a gnome-terminal from within the desktop on B, I get an error "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal". How to avoid this?
[16:42] <student022> I found reports on /etc/fstab or udev errors that prevent the /dev/pts directory from having the right settings. But /dev/pts/0 exits, so its probably something else.
[16:42] <student022> When logging in to B from A using ssh -X, I can open gnome-terminal without problems. It only happens under Gnome (or KDE with konsole, respectively.)
[16:48] <rio_> Hi can anyone guide me a bit I'm learning installing tars using Terminal or either give me link of installtion tutorial for newbies
[16:49] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[16:49] <Cpudan80> I am a KDE newb so excuse the dumb questions
[16:49] <Cpudan80> What is the name of the network manger gui thing for kde?
[16:50] <solid_liq> Cpudan80: okay, you're exused ;)
[16:50] <ivan_> hola
[16:50] <rio_> Knetwork manager @ CPudan
[16:50] <Cpudan80> ok
[16:51] <Cpudan80> and how do I get the package manager gui thing to list ALL packages
[16:51] <ivan_> como se activan las ventanas banvoleantes de kwin
[16:51] <rio_> adept installer
[16:51] <Cpudan80> like when I search for <pkg> it only seems to search the current category I am in
[16:51] <Pici> !es | ivan_
[16:51] <Cpudan80> yes how do I get adept installer to list all the packages
[16:51] <Cpudan80> rather than by category
[16:52] <ivan_> que pongo
[16:52] <rio_> humm but you can scrool all the categories and check out the things u want
[16:52] <rio_> scroll*
[16:53] <Cpudan80> rio_, well like when I search for wpasupplicant -- it finds nothing
[16:53] <Cpudan80> but I know that that is a valid pkg
[16:53] <Cpudan80> is it hiding some?
[16:53] <Illusioneer> Hey, my standard plasmoid widget set (ubuntu 8.1) is missing the "icon" widget.  What package is it in?
[16:55] <somekool> kopete cannot connect to msn this morning ? any clue, seems like a protocol has been deprecated or something
[16:55] <Cpudan80> Can I install synaptic somehow?
[16:55] <Cpudan80> This is just a test box with KDE on it
[16:55] <shadeslayer> cpudan:i did it but dont remember how,lol
[16:55] <ivan_> como se activan las ventanas banvoleantes de kwin
[16:55] <shadeslayer> so its quite dooable
[16:58] <shadeslayer> somekool:the msn servers are quirky
[16:59] <Tm_T> !brokenmsn | somekool
[16:59] <shadeslayer> :P
[16:59] <shadeslayer> to msn
[17:01] <Illusioneer> is there a package I can invoke to force it to reinstall the default widgetset that has the icon-plasmoid?
[17:01] <ivan_> como se activan las ventanas banvoleantes de kwin en la consola
[17:01] <shadeslayer> !es
[17:04] <Cpudan80> Ok well
[17:04] <Cpudan80> Does anyone know how to install gnome from Kubuntu?
[17:04] <Cpudan80> like the regular ubuntu
[17:04] <Pici> Cpudan80: ubuntu-desktop
[17:04] <Cpudan80> it doesnt like that
[17:04] <Cpudan80> cant find pkg ubuntu-desktop
[17:05] <Cpudan80> oh wait
[17:05] <Cpudan80> the sources werent updated
[17:05] <rio_>  sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop.
[17:05] <rio_> this will install gnome
[17:06] <Cpudan80> and then I will get to pick which desktop to work in?
[17:06] <Cpudan80> like when I login
[17:06] <ghostcube> yes
[17:06] <rio_> yes from login screen
[17:06] <Cpudan80> err well at the gdm
[17:06] <Cpudan80> yeah ok good
[17:07] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> whats the codec for installing java for frostwire ?
[17:07] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> (P2P client)
[17:07] <Cpudan80> you have to use the proprietary jave
[17:08] <Cpudan80> !java
[17:08] <Cpudan80> I forget what command it is to select the java interpreter
[17:08] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> thanks man
[17:08] <ghostcube> should be done automaticly no need for update-alternatives
[17:09] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> ya i dont want an alternative
[17:09] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> i just want java
[17:09] <ghostcube> sure i meant the java alternatives kann be set u can have more than one installed
[17:09] <ghostcube> *can
[17:11] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> i used "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin"
[17:11] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> will that work ?
[17:12] <ghostcube> why not version 6 ?
[17:12] <ghostcube> its the newer one
[17:12] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> v.v
[17:12] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> so "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin"
[17:12] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> ?
[17:12] <ghostcube> dont know if it removes th eold one
[17:12] <ghostcube> bpoth arent needed
[17:13] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> v.v
[17:13] <ghostcube> damn typos
[17:13] <user6> hello ... how can I define what kind of audio I i'm using?
[17:13] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> so im screwed ?
[17:13] <ghostcube> nah just uninstall the 5
[17:13] <ghostcube> :D
[17:13] <ghostcube> then install the 6
[17:13] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> *as it just finishes*
[17:13] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> um how do i uninstall
[17:13] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get remove
[17:13] <ghostcube> ^^
[17:13] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> kk
[17:14] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> ty
[17:14] <user6> !audio
[17:15] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> wats the difference between 5 & 6 ?
[17:15] <ghostcube> depends on what u need the 6 has other impelments afaik
[17:15] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> hmm
[17:15] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> ok
[17:17] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> dude
[17:19] <rio_> can anyone tell me a link of proper tutorial for tar installation
[17:20] <rio_> plz
[17:21] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> !tar
[17:21] <rio_> er not opening
[17:21] <rio_> installing source
[17:21] <rio_> app which distribued as tarball
[17:22] <rio_> mostly hardware drivers
[17:23] <amerigo> Hello i got problem with my audio... anyones can help me?
[17:23] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> !audio
[17:23] <ghostcube> amerigo, describe the prob
[17:23] <ghostcube> then someone will help if he can
[17:23] <amerigo> I have 2 kubuntu machine.... one is 8.04 the other is a 7
[17:24] <amerigo> both the machine have the same program in which a can talk and hear the sound...
[17:25] <amerigo> but in 8.04 i cannot speach and hear my speacher...
[17:26] <amerigo> i'd like to know how can i see my sound configuration ... and set them in the same way
[17:27] <shadeslayer> ameigo:you have 8.04
[17:27] <shadeslayer> ??
[17:27] <amerigo> yes
[17:28] <shadeslayer> click the sound icon and there are some settings there that can help
[17:29] <shadeslayer> im in windows right now,but had the same problem
[17:29] <amerigo> in this i can hear music from CD or from radio...
[17:29] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:30] <amerigo> but i can't talk in voice chat
[17:30] <shadeslayer> maybe the mic in is muted
[17:30] <amerigo> ok check the mic
[17:33] <shadeslayer> hey i have to go somewhere right now,if you just look around in the sound settings and set everything to max itll work out,just check every box in the settings and set it to high,repeat youre problem if it still persists
[17:36] <rio_> exit
[17:41] <jasonlife> I'm using kubuntu 8.04 and have KDM login screen in wrong position after I logout..
[17:41] <jasonlife> the  login screen shifted little bottom right corner.. It seems the kdm greeter thinks the screen resolution is bigger than actual size
[17:42] <jasonlife> anyone has the same problem and knows how to fix it?
[17:46] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> im a gangster ima straight up G, the gangster life, is the life for me, shooting people by day, selling drugs by night, being a gangster is hella tight.
[17:46] <vbgunz> jasonlife: could be related to virtualsize or virtual something in xorg.conf (I forgot :() if you have that set?
[17:47] <JuJuBee> What do I install so that all accounts can use the flash plugin for FireFox on a computer?
[17:48] <jasonlife> vbgunz: yes I tried "Virtual" in the screen section in xorg.conf
[17:48] <jasonlife> but didn't work for me
[17:48] <jasonlife> I wonder how kdm decides the size of screen..
[17:52] <zac> can you get windows live 9 with wine ?
[17:54] <zac> why doesnt aMSN work ?
[17:54] <cuznt> because it is evil
[17:54] <zac> true
[17:54] <zac> but it signs in, then it crashes
[17:54] <jussi01> zac: never tried. though about trying kmess or kopete?
[17:55] <zac> ya
[17:55] <zac> i have, and they suck
[17:55] <zac> aMSN looks the best, but i was just wondering if WLM 9 is compatible with wine
[17:57] <jussi01> !appdb | zac
[17:59] <jussi01> zac: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=11389
[18:00] <seb__> plop tlm
[18:03] <roconnor> How can I "startx xterm -- :1" without being root?
[18:22] <deagostini> ola
[18:25] <shadeslayer> !sp
[18:25] <LazersX> Heya.
[18:25] <LazersX> I need some help with the Kubuntu 8.10 Live CD.
[18:25] <shadeslayer> go ahead
[18:26] <LazersX> Upon using the 'Try without changing my computer' option, it laods up, and gives me a half black, half purple screen.
[18:26] <LazersX> The mouse can only be seen in the black section.
[18:26] <shadeslayer> did you check the CD for defects??
[18:27] <shadeslayer> or is that a pressed CD??
[18:27] <LazersX> The CD isn't defected.
[18:27] <LazersX> It boots perfectly well at my Uni computers.
[18:28] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:28] <LazersX> I have a Nvidia card. Problem?
[18:29] <LazersX> Also, when using the 'install from windows' option, i get a forward to Busybox when booting it.
[18:29] <shadeslayer> maybe the desktop tried to initialize KDE and failed
[18:29] <shadeslayer> at the Uni were the comps using integrated solutions???
[18:29] <LazersX> Could of. I am udner the impression this will need some use of the console to fix?
[18:30] <LazersX> *under.
[18:30] <shadeslayer> maybe
[18:30] <LazersX> I think the Unis have integrated intel chipsets.
[18:30] <shadeslayer> im not a expert at this thing
[18:30] <LazersX> Heh.
[18:30] <LazersX> I'm at a loss.
[18:31] <LazersX> the only thing left is for me to clear my four gig drive, and properly isntall it.
[18:31] <shadeslayer> maybe the install option works??and its only a driver relates issue
[18:31] <shadeslayer> *related
[18:34] <LazersX> Hm.
[18:34] <LazersX> I'll give it a try.
[18:34] <shadeslayer> gud luck
[18:35] <mistag> hi
[18:35] <shadeslayer> !hi
[18:42] <legodude_> konq crashes shortly after opening "konqueror: Fatal IO error: client killed", any suggestions?
[18:43] <legodude_> google really didn't help all that much
[18:50] <MikeH> Evening all
[18:51] <MikeH> I tried KDE 4 on Intrepid a few weeks back, and it seemed rather buggy and slow
[18:51] <MikeH> Is this a known issue, or have a done something wrong/missed something somewhere?
[18:51] <MikeH> Or is this usual, and it's just not finished yet
[18:51] <legodude_> 4.2 is much nicer
[18:51] <Tm_T> MikeH: mmmmm, nVidia?
[18:52] <legodude_> so I would say it is usual and not finished yet
[18:52] <[GRS]> uh.. its not slow... certainly not for me =/ been using it on all my machines [kubuntu, arch and opensuse], whats your specs?
[18:52] <Tm_T> legodude_: nah
[18:52] <legodude_> 4.1 certainly is buggy
[18:52] <Tm_T> wasn't for me though
[18:53] <[GRS]> yeah obviously :P but its not slow for me
[18:54] <MikeH> Tm_T: ATI, drivers are installed, as compiz under  gnome works perfectly.
[18:54] <Tm_T> MikeH: doesn't matter
[18:54] <Tm_T> MikeH: it's known that KDE4 uses stuff that manufacturers never really tested properly
[18:55] <MikeH> [GRS]: Intel Q6600 (quad) @ 3.3GHz, 4GB Ram, ATI 4850
[18:55] <MikeH> Tm_T: So, what does that mean for my problems?
[18:55] <legodude_> MikeH: if you are willing to live on the edge, try 4.2 beta
[18:55] <legodude_> it is a great improvement
[18:55] <MikeH> My brand new, second to top range graphics card is insufficient to display a desktop? :P
[18:55] <Tm_T> MikeH: well, it could be fixed with newer versions of KDE and eventually also with newer drivers
[18:56] <Tm_T> MikeH: nah, old intels are doing fine
[18:56] <MikeH> So, is 4.2 not default with Intrepid, if not, is there a repo that'll handle it?
[18:56] <legodude_> look at the topic
[18:56] <Tm_T> MikeH: see topic
[18:57] <Tm_T> MikeH: some problematic stuff is from 90's mostly, but yeah, irrelevant technicalities
[19:01] <legodude_> even 4.2 is too buggy for me
[19:01] <[GRS]> well it is still in bug fix phase for the next 2 weeks :P then it'll be released
[19:02] <legodude_> yeah
[19:02] <legodude_> I filed a bug report for 4.1 but something tells me it won't be fixed in 4.2 :(
[19:02] <MikeH> hrm
[19:03] <MikeH> trying to install kubuntu-kde4-desktop failed to update my kde :|
[19:03] <[GRS]> depends what it is though i give and what the priorities are just now for the different projects... but people have been comitting bug fixes like crazy :P
[19:04] <Nomexous> MikeH: What error?
[19:05] <Nomexous> MikeH: something about icons?
[19:05] <MikeH> Nomexous: No, it just claims to have the latest version
[19:05] <MikeH> even after adding the experimental repo, and apt-get update'ing
[19:06] <MikeH> hrm, ntw, update manager seems to have picked it up
[19:08] <legodude_> apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?
[19:10] <Nomexous> legodude_: apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:11] <MikeH> oh, that's a fail
[19:12] <MikeH> package manager kicked up about unauthorized packages
[19:12] <MikeH> I'll try dist-upgrade
[19:14] <Nomexous> MikeH: You'll have to accept the unauthorized packages
[19:14] <pidus> i currently have one 'notes' window on my desktop. is there any way to have multiple 'notes' windows on kubuntu 8.10?
[19:14] <legodude_> pidus: add widget
[19:14] <olivier_> !fr
[19:14] <MikeH> Nomexous: Yes, I know, Package manager gave me no choice to do so, though.
[19:14] <legodude_> add as many as you want
[19:14] <MikeH> It's all done now I think though
[19:15] <pidus> legodude_: you mean multiple instances of the widget..oh ok cool
[19:19] <amerigo> hei buddy .... a way to reset the driver of audio device please
[19:19] <amerigo> kubuntu hardy 8.04
[19:21] <MikeH> Thanks, KDE4.2 works loads better
[19:22] <MikeH> GTK stuff (firefox) looks awful though :(
[19:25] <[GRS]> personally i think firefox is awful anyways :P i like konqueror much better =]
[19:25] <MikeH> hrm
[19:25] <MikeH> this system info widget seems to be broken
[19:25] <Tm_T> MikeH: it's all about your gtk settings
[19:25] <shadeslayer> MikeH:having the same problm with FF
[19:26] <MikeH> is there an update for the widgets?
[19:26] <shadeslayer> bad graphics etc
[19:28] <u64> test
[19:34] <jussi01> !neon
[19:39] <rimabul> výborný,odcházim
[19:41] <mark_> русские есть?
[19:41] <rimabul> nerozumím anglicky
[19:41] <mark_> ja taky ne
[19:41] <Tm_T> !ch | rimabul
[19:41] <Tm_T> brrrh
[19:41] <rimabul> tak čau
[19:41] <mark_> cus
[19:41] <HappySmileMan> Conás atá sibh?#
[19:41] <mark_> еба, русские есть?
[19:42] <HappySmileMan> !ru
[19:42] <Tm_T> !cz | rimabul
[19:42] <mark_> ok
[19:47] <shadeslayer> any idea on how to edit GRUB to make Kubuntu my default OS until i press F8 or something similar
[19:47] <shadeslayer> to boot it into Vista
[19:48] <ddurham> there's a way to do that yes
[19:48] <shadeslayer> which would be??
[19:48] <ddurham> I think it's "hit enter for grub menu"
[19:48] <ddurham> have you looked at the grub documentation?
[19:48] <shadeslayer> BTW im in Vista right now
[19:48] <shadeslayer> !grub
[19:48] <shadeslayer> the above??
[19:49] <ddurham> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Hidden-menu-interface
[19:50] <ddurham> you have to boot to linux and edit your menu.lst
[19:50] <ddurham> or something like that
[19:50] <shadeslayer> which topic should i read
[19:50] <shadeslayer> 12.3??
[19:51] <ddurham> "hidden-menu-interface"
[19:51] <ddurham> I linked straight to it
[19:52] <shadeslayer> ill open it again??
[19:52] <ddurham> good idea
[19:52] <ddurham> it will be very easy once you figure out what you need to do