[01:30] <infinity> zequence: Around?
[01:31] <infinity> zequence: We had to respin Q and R for a regression.   You have new tracking bugs for lowlatency.
[12:07] <apw> rtg, yo ... did you rng-tools build ok
[12:08] <rtg> apw, yeah, as far as I know.
[12:08] <rtg> apw, yep, looks like -4 is published
[12:09] <rtg> apw, just idle curiosity ?
[12:09] <apw> rtg, yeah just curiosity, it was up in the air when i quit last night
[12:10] <rtg> apw, the biggest question was TPM support. since that is now in the kernel kees was OK with removing the TPM cruft from -2
[12:10] <apw> rtg, ahh ok good
[12:11] <rtg> apw, you working on the linux-tools naming scheme ?
[12:11] <apw> yeah, just trying to slip in this other thing in the middle
[12:14]  * henrix -> lunch
[13:18] <purezen> Hey guys..! I am a long time Linux enthusiast and have been using Ubuntu since long.. and would like to know if features from kernels with revisions advanced than the ones being used in Ubuntu are backported to ones used by Ubuntu by the Ubuntu team.. Like the 3.11 is supposed to bring DPM to AMD Graphics card.. and shall such features be ported to 3.10, slated to be used by Ubuntu 13.10..? Thanks..!
[13:19] <rtg> purezen, 13.10 will be based on the 3.11 kernel
[13:23] <apw> kamal, yo .. this cpufreq thing, which arches is is known to
[13:23] <apw> build with
[13:23] <purezen> rtg: Hey..! Well, that'd be great..!
[13:24] <apw> purezen, indeed it already has an early 3.11 kernle in it
[13:24] <purezen> apw: Oh well..:-)
[13:25] <purezen> Though guys, I would like to know if the kernels that Ubuntu releases officially, I mean that the users get as updates and all.. do really get it with 'backported' components..
[13:26] <purezen> I hope that my use of the word 'backported' implies features from advanced versions, ported over to previous versions..:-)
[13:26] <apw> purezen, rarely, we tend to provide newer kernels en-toto where that is appropriate
[13:26] <rtg> purezen, sometimes we'll backport drivers, or parts of drivers, but rarely do we backport features.
[13:29] <apw> kamal, this seems pretty intel specific
[13:29] <rtg> tseliot, what is the difference between nvidia-graphics-drivers-304-updates and nvidia-graphics-drivers-experimental-304 ? The latter incorrectly depends on 'linux-headers-generic | linux-headers'
[13:29] <tseliot> rtg: which Ubuntu release are you referring to?
[13:29] <purezen> apw, rtg: Well.. Thanks for the info guys..! Also, great to see 3.11 making it to 13.10.. Needed it for DPM on AMD..!
[13:29] <rtg> tseliot, precise
[13:30] <tseliot> rtg: nvidia-graphics-drivers-experimental-304 is going away, as per bug #1198942
[13:30] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1198942 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu Precise) "Hybrid Graphics and general enablement for fglrx and nvidia in Precise for 12.04.3" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1198942
[13:31] <rtg> tseliot, does that mean the source package will be reaped from the archive ?
[13:32] <tseliot> rtg: we'll have transitional packages to migrate nvidia-graphics-drivers-experimental-304 to nvidia-graphics-drivers-304-updates
[13:33] <rtg> tseliot, is that happening pretty soon ? the linux-headers dependency is causing some problems.
[13:34] <tseliot> rtg: I'm trying to have the packages moved into -updates ASAP (they're already in -proposed) so that I can finally go on holiday. So the answer is yes ;)
[13:34] <rtg> tseliot, good. I assume you are regularly hassling folks in the release channel ?
[13:35] <tseliot> rtg: yep, every day
[13:35] <rtg> arges, ^^
[13:35]  * arges reading
[13:36] <rtg> arges, getting rid of nvidia-graphics-drivers-experimental-304 will solve part of the problem, i.e., the bogus dependency
[13:37] <arges> rtg: yes
[13:40] <rtg> tseliot, fglrx has the same problem:
[13:40] <rtg> fglrx-installer-8.960/debian/control: linux-headers-generic | linux-headers, , ${xviddriver:Depends}
[13:41] <tseliot> rtg: I'm not updating that driver but feel free to file a bug report about that (using a different SRU)
[14:10] <apw> ogra_, yo ... can you remind me where to find the panda board docs we had, particularly how to enable a console on the serial console
[14:11] <ogra_> apw, just copy the serial script in place on the first partition of the SD
[14:11] <ogra_> (there is a bootscript that has all you need, you just need to cpp it over the one without the -serial tag)
[14:11] <ogra_> *cp
[14:15] <apw> ogra_, sounds good, where is the -serial one hiding in the filesystem
[14:15] <ogra_> nowhere ... its only on the first vfat partition ... put in place when the image is made bootable
[14:16] <apw> ogra_, ok this is too old an image then to have that, it is my buildder which is being all non-booty
[14:16] <ogra_> sudo mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt ...
[14:16] <apw> ogra_, yeah i have done that, and have a boot.script, but no other
[14:16] <ogra_> oh
[14:16] <ogra_> ok
[14:16] <apw> boot.scr  MLO  u-boot.bin  uImage  uInitrd
[14:17] <ogra_> yeah, so you want to edit boot.scr
[14:17] <ogra_> copy it to be boot.script ...open in vim and remove the garbage at the front
[14:17] <ogra_> then add a console=ttyO2 to the cmdline
[14:18] <apw> yep
[14:18] <ogra_> mkimage -A arm -O linux -T script -n boot.script boot.sc
[14:18] <ogra_> r
[14:18] <ogra_> that should add the header then
[14:19] <apw> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[14:19] <apw> oops
[14:21] <apw> ogra_, does not work on either raring or saucy it seems
[14:22] <ogra_> well, if it wouldnt work we wouldnt have image releases for them :)
[14:22] <ogra_> the image build scripts dont use anything else
[14:22] <apw> ogra_, heh that was at release
[14:22] <apw> ogra_, this is _now_ when, they coredump
[14:23] <ogra_> thats the x86 version of mkimage ?
[14:23] <ogra_> (also probably the line above was wrong ... i havent touched any panda in over a year ... (and dont plan to))
[14:24] <apw> ogra_, that is indeed x86
[14:24] <ogra_> well, file a bug :)
[14:25] <ogra_> not sure who from fooundations does arm now though
[14:25] <ogra_> probably adam
[14:25] <apw> mkimage -A arm -O linux -T script -d boot.script boot.scr
[14:25] <apw> that at least didn't explode and made something similar
[14:26] <ogra_> heh, yeah
[14:26] <ogra_> it was my fault
[14:26] <ogra_> -n is name
[14:26] <ogra_> and indeed you need input data (-d)
[14:30] <apw> ogra_, well i have more on the console, this is encouraging :)
[14:30] <ogra_> :D
[14:30] <apw> ogra_, nothing much to be happy about as yet
[14:30] <apw> but ... hey
[14:30] <apw> sudo: unable to resolve host localhost.localdomain
[14:30] <apw> she is not feeling too well i think
[14:31] <ogra_> are you sure this was properly installed ?
[14:31] <ogra_> sounds like the installer didnt run
[14:31] <apw> hmmm
[14:31]  * apw wonders if he has the wrong card, might be
[14:31] <ogra_> (we luckily dropped the preinstalled images a while ago, for panda, so this cant happen anymore)
[14:34] <apw> this thing did get drug into the office one time, so i might have gotten them mixed up
[14:46] <apw> ogra_, is there a nice howto to install a nice shiney saucy image on this thing, whats on here is all sick
[14:48] <ogra_> apw, all newer images need a target disk ... (USB disk) ...
[14:49] <ogra_> but if you have that, sure, there are d-i images
[14:49] <apw> ogra_, hrm ... ok
[14:49]  * apw goes and find some h/w
[14:51] <ogra_> apw, http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/saucy/main/installer-armhf/current/images/omap4/netboot/boot.img-serial.gz ... unzip and dd to SD card, then boot ... the rest is a server netinstall via serial
[14:51] <apw> ogra_, that sounds ... believable :)  will let you know
[14:56] <apw> ogra_, i have d-i ness on there :)
[15:07] <apw> ogra_, so does flash-whatsit know i have a split bootloader in the new world order, with uboot or whatever on mmc ?
[15:17] <ogra_> apw, its still the same ... MLO and u-boot.bin ...
[15:17] <ogra_> on a vfat
[15:17] <ogra_> and yeah the panda HW can only boot from MMC
[15:17] <ogra_> so you need it as "bootfloppy"
[15:32] <bjf> brendand, new Quantal and Raring kernels are ready for testing. the lts-backport-[raring/quantal] kernels just got uploaded and are building
[15:34] <brendand> bjf, yeah testing is under way
[15:34] <bjf> brendand, sweet!
[16:14] <tjaalton> i've just upgraded my desktop machine to saucy, but the kernel panics on boot. mainline 3.10-rc7 at least worked fine
[16:14] <tjaalton> and raring
[16:15] <tjaalton> kms isn't initialized yet, so there's not much on the screen to report
[16:18] <tjaalton> huh, now it worked
[16:22] <tjaalton> dropping quiet from cmdline makes it boot, weird
[16:36] <apw> rtg, ok i pushed the bits of the linux-tools fixups upto and including kamal's bits, the actual name fixes
[16:36] <apw> i am redoing now on the top and testing to confirm
[16:36] <apw> tjaalton, hrm ... odd
[16:39] <tjaalton> it seems to boot 3.11 fine after a successful boot with an earlier kernel, but not after a fresh start
[16:39] <tjaalton> doesn't matter what options it has, which makes sense
[16:39] <tjaalton> some acpi related issue
[16:39] <tjaalton> but this is an ivybridge SDP so doesn't matter that much I guess
[16:50] <manjo> tjaalton, do you have virtual box drivers installed ?
[16:51] <tjaalton> manjo: no, and it panics 2s into boot, so it's quite early :)
[16:51] <manjo> ok
[16:51] <manjo> I had issues with panics on SR with vboxdrv loaded so asked
[16:53] <tjaalton> ok
[21:50] <PhoeniXYZ> Hi everyone. Is there a way to find out whats wrong (some kind of log maybe) if my pc just freezes after the "loading kernel image" and "loading initram" messages (sorry if this is not the right place to ask about this)?


[18:24] <OutOfCheeseCake> nvm I resolved my wacom issue (script from previous installation called in .bashrc shame on me)
[18:26] <Cay> So an application is causing a hardcrash on my PC when the load is heavy. I'm not running it as root so my assumption here is a hardware issue causing a hard failure. What logs would I look at when I boot up to figure out what happened?
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> Jakey2  if you saved to disk, the session is still there after you restart... if you save to ram, it's gone when you restart
[18:26] <bekks> Cay: Whats a "hardcrash"?
[18:27] <Cay> (I'm currently running memtest86)
[18:27] <Cay> freeze up then reboot
[18:27] <Cay> and just freeze up
[18:27] <bekks> Cay: And the application in question is memtest86?
[18:27] <Jakey2> ok
[18:28] <Jakey2> MonkeyDust, thanks
[18:28] <Cay> no, I'm running memtest incase it's a bad section of memory, app in question is unity3d (linux native editor)
[18:28] <OutOfCheeseCake> @Cay make sure your HW is ok (easy to test) before you launch an extended search for a software error
[18:28] <OutOfCheeseCake> gfx card, power supply, RAM
[18:28] <Cay> OutOfCheeseCake, yeah that's my assumption too
[18:29] <Cay> not sure how to figure out which failed though
[18:29] <Cay> I can test ram easy, the rest not so much
[18:30] <OutOfCheeseCake> does your MB have an onboard gfx card? then you could take the main one out and test with that
[18:31] <Cay> I do not believe so
[18:31] <Cay> nope
[18:31] <bekks> Cay: What does "linux native editor" mean in terms of "Unity3D"?
[18:32] <faycal> slt
[18:32] <OutOfCheeseCake> @bekks I suspect he's talking about the game engine
[18:32] <Cay> I am
[18:33] <Cay> they have released a linux native version of it
[18:33] <OutOfCheeseCake> @Cay power supply can only be tested by plugging in one that's known to work (eg from a friend or other computer)
[18:33] <OutOfCheeseCake> I'd start with the power supply
[18:33] <Cay> My guess is around the PS too
[18:33] <OutOfCheeseCake> yeah sounds like it
[18:33] <Cay> it's also cooking in there (my very first assumption was over heating so I cleaned 5 years of caked up dust off everything)
[18:34] <Cay> but even in headless mode essentially this has been dieing anytime there is significant draw on the system (it had fbsd on it before and making a few ports caused a segfault)
[18:34] <Cay> and crash
[18:35] <Cay> so with my next paycheck I'll replace that
[18:35] <OutOfCheeseCake> I'd try to see if a PS swap fixes it
[18:35] <OutOfCheeseCake> if not you bought one without a reason
[18:36] <OutOfCheeseCake> I assume there's nothing in syslog about the freeze/crash?
[18:38] <Cay> OutOfCheeseCake, I'll check that next to be safe
[18:38] <Cay> but I'm pretty sure not
[18:38] <Cay> OutOfCheeseCake, I live 1800miles from my closest friend. Not many options out of just buying new hardware at this point
[18:39] <OerHeks> Time to make some new friends :-D
[18:42] <OutOfCheeseCake> @Cay that's a bummer
[18:43] <Cay> mmm
[18:43] <Cay> though stress testing the videocard
[18:43] <Cay> without wrecking the cpu
[18:43] <Cay> any suggestions?
[18:43] <Cay> and then vis-versa
[18:44] <OutOfCheeseCake> nvidia card?
[18:45]  * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[18:46] <Cay> amd
[18:46] <Cay> err radeon gtx 6870
[18:46] <popnfloss> the touchpad on my thinkpad is extremely jittery and pretty much impossible to use
[18:46] <LuiX> hey, I'm trying to do the following. I'm trying to make a liveUSB with persistence, but also a windows compatible partition for data, and an encrypted partition. I was looking for partition layouts, and I've tried some without success. I was looking for a curated set of instructions that you've personally tested
[18:47] <popnfloss> ive tried tweaking the xorg configuration file for synaptics but it doesnt help
[18:47] <Cay> popnfloss, turn down the sensitivity?
[18:47] <popnfloss> if i just put my finger on the touchpad the mouse cursor shakes all over the place
[18:47] <popnfloss> ive already tried that it doesnt help
[18:47] <popnfloss> the same problem happens in windows if you dont install the non-generic synaptics driver
[18:48] <OutOfCheeseCake> @Cay just remembered ubuntu has 'system testing' accessible
[18:48] <popnfloss> but there is no proprietary synaptics driver for linux
[18:48] <OutOfCheeseCake> via dash
[18:48] <OutOfCheeseCake> there's a graphics test there
[18:48] <Cay> cool OutOfCheeseCake ! I will check that out1
[18:49] <OutOfCheeseCake> if it was a nvidia card I'd tested it with blender + CUDA
[18:49] <popnfloss> Some users have their cursor inexplicably jump around the screen. There currently no patch for this, but the developers are aware of the problem and are working on it.
[18:49] <popnfloss> this is on the arch wiki, which is a bleeding edge distro with the latest drivers
[18:50] <popnfloss> so i can only assume that the linux driver for synaptics is a broken pile of shit and they havent fixed it
[18:50] <popnfloss> so thats great
[18:53] <martinrame> Hi, I installed ubuntu 15.04 server, after boot it hangs waiting for user, but I can't type anything, aparently the usb keyboard insn't working.
[18:53] <martinrame> BTW, the keyboard worked perfectly while installing.
[18:55] <ProfMac> just spent fun with 12.04 updates and lost X.
[18:55] <martinrame> Hi, I installed ubuntu 15.04 server, after boot it hangs waiting for user, but I can't type anything, aparently the usb keyboard insn't working. The keyboard worked as expected during when installing.
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> sounds odd, a server with a usb keyboard
[18:57] <martinrame> MonkeyDust: well, the machine is a standard PC, but I installed ubuntu server on it.
[18:58] <bekks> martinrame: Do you know the IP address of that machine?
[18:58] <martinrame> bekks: yes, and it has ssh installed, but I cannot login nor ping...
[18:59] <HickorySmokedBac> I know this isn't exactly a directly ubuntu related question, but would anyone know any extention or program that'd autosave images from an image place like tumblr or other forums with thumbnails/then links to real image ?
[18:59] <TJ-> martinrame: at which point is it hanging? Have you tried the Advanced > Recovery option?
[19:00] <martinrame> TJ-: not yet, the hangs happens just after login prompt is displayed.
[19:02] <martinrame> The cursor sits at right of "login: " as expected, then, after a couple of seconds, it goes to the far left side and stays there.
[19:04] <Rasperin> OutOfCheeseCake: Yeah gonna say syslog didn't quite catch it: http://pastebin.com/LsSza2By
[19:05] <Rasperin> <-Cay
[19:05] <LinuxGuy2020> When is the whole snappy packages thing supposed to happen? It sounds like a good solution to offline software installs.
[19:05] <dumdedums> hi, does anyone know of a way to tell how big a .tar file will be after i gunzip a .tar.z?
[19:05] <martinrame> TJ-: I booted in advanced recovery mode, and when the menu is shown I cannot select any option using the keyboard.
[19:06] <Cay> dumdedums, ls -altr
[19:07] <Cay> oh prior to gunzipping get the size for the file post gunzipping?
[19:07] <dumdedums> Cay: ya, i keep running out of hard drive space when i try running 'gunzip fn.tar.gz'
[19:07] <dumdedums> and i'm trying to figure out how much space i need to free up
[19:07] <Rasperin> :/
[19:08] <Rasperin> how big is the file? (Also 7z tends to be better at compressing things but I don't believe it has a "this will be XYZ big")
[19:09] <dumdedums> the .tar.gz is 27GB, and i know that the .tar file is going to be bigger than 105GB
[19:09] <dumdedums> trying to find out how much bigger
[19:10] <TJ-> dumdedums: "tar -tf fn.tar.gz" might help
[19:11] <dumdedums> nevermind!  i found it.  gunzip -l shows uncompressed size.  thank you all.
[19:19] <OutOfCheeseCake> @Cay sry am afk atm but yeah that syslog is pretty meh and I'd search for a problem in the hardware
[19:21] <anternat> i can ssh to my server from outside the lan but not within lan.What can be the reason?
[19:23] <TJ-> martinbjeldbak: is the keyboard connected via a USB hub? Have you tried alternate USB ports?
[19:26] <Cay> oh system test looks like it hard crashed
[19:26] <Cay> can't hit it with ssh
[19:26] <Cay> this actually is a good thing
[19:29] <sn0w3> Do we need a handle for online activities ?
[19:29] <bekks> sn0w3: ?
[19:30] <sn0w3> bekks: should we brand ourselves with an handle for online activities?
[19:31] <bekks> Thats sounds even more weird than the sentence before.
[19:32] <Ziggurat> I have been looking for a method of installing ubuntu touch as a login session in an existing ubuntu install, I can only find tutorials to install ubuntu touch in an emulator or to a supported device, anyone know of a way?
[19:33] <bekks> Ziggurat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[19:34] <wileee> Ziggurat, Have you seen the touch setup?
[19:35] <Ziggurat> wileee no? only preinstalled images
[19:35] <wileee> Ziggurat, pretty limited is all, not really worthy on a computer, at least from here.
[19:36] <Ziggurat> bekks wileee I am working on porting ubuntu to my intel tablet. I have gotten very far the last days.
[19:36] <Ziggurat> Only missing bluetooth, touch, and sensors
[19:38] <wileee> Ziggurat, what tablet?
[19:38] <Ziggurat> Chuwi Vi8
[19:41] <Ziggurat> wileee just got GPU acceleration to work, exited :P
[19:41]  * micechal test
[19:43] <wileee> should work in the end others have installed ubuntu it looks like, no idea on any help however. Gold star if you get both working. ;)
[19:45] <Ziggurat> wileee Yeah I need either bluetooth or touch to work for it to be a useable tablet in of it self. Of course sensors and audio is also important, but less so :P
[19:46] <monty__> hi
[19:47] <Ziggurat> bekks is Ubuntu Touch and Wily so different that Touch has to be installed in a chroot?
[19:48] <wileee> Ziggurat, touch and ubuntu are very different in several areas.
[19:49] <wileee> Ziggurat, You might look into the #ubuntu-touch channel
[19:49] <Ziggurat> wileee Thanks looks useful :)
[19:55] <bekks> Ziggurat: I never said that Touch needs to be installed in a chroot, I answered your question on how to Install Ubuntu from within Ubuntu.
[19:56] <Cay> Yep any significant draw (anytime total cpu usage hits 90% across all 16 cores) hard crashes the machine
[19:56] <Cay> I'm going to guess powersupply
[19:56] <Ziggurat> bekks okay, I just thought it can be installed similar to how you can install Gnome or KDE on an existing install.
[19:57] <bekks> Cay: Powersupply, RAM, GPU, Mainboard, Temperature are just a few reasons possible.
[19:58] <Cay> bekks, not the ram or temps, temps are sticking between 20-50c
[19:58] <DeathDealer> Hi all.
[19:59] <DeathDealer> Hi all.
[19:59] <adroit_machine> Kubuntu 14.04 we're sorry Plasma shell closed unexpectedly. Every 4 seconds. Need help
[20:00] <bekks> Cay: How long did you run memtest86+? 24 hours?
[20:01] <Cay> bekks, the longest so far would be longer than that but I can't remember if it was a day and a half or more
[20:01] <Cay> but I've been plagued with this issue for awhile
[20:01] <Cay> I ran it earlier today to pass: 100%
[20:01] <Cay> that was about 2hrs
[20:02] <Cay> orrrrrrrrrrrrr
[20:02] <kk0710> Hi guys, I have an Ubuntu desktop with plex I use as my media server.  My laptop was Ubuntu 14.04 as well but I was having such troubles with it I finally threw windows 10 on there and it is running well for the first time since I got it.  When it had 14.04 on there I simply used Remmina to remote desktop into my Server but I can't seem to get wind
[20:02] <kk0710> ows to connect properly.  It connects and accepts the PW but I just get a fuzzy background with an X as the mouse ponter?
[20:02] <Ziggurat> Anyone know how to compile a kernel module such as this https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/8/25/738
[20:02] <Cay> I tailed syslog and ran handbrake
[20:03] <bekks> Cay: Completing a pass takes a few minutes only, and doesnt mean much.
[20:03] <Cay> [Hardware Error]: cache level: L3/GEN, mem/io: GEN, mem-tx: GEN, part-proc: GEN (no timeout)
[20:03] <adroit_machine>  kubuntu 15.04 "we're sorry Plasma shell closed unexpectedly" -every 3-4 seconds. Need help!!
[20:03] <wileee> kk0710, samba is most often suggested here I think.
[20:04] <wileee> !samba | kk0710 If I understand you
[20:05] <kk0710> I'm not seeing anything in those howtos for remote desktop
[20:08] <LuiX> any ideas on how could I troubleshoot a liveUSB that the persistence is not working? here's the boot log http://pastebin.com/n8FFMpsz
[20:08] <kk0710> you know what maybe it is time to forgo remoting but instead set up file sharing.  Problem is I will need an HDMI out graphics card to connec the server to my TV for when I do need to access it as an OS.  ANy sugestions there?
[20:10] <wileee> LuiX, How did you set the persistence? An the final usb you expect.
[20:11] <LuiX> wileee, I used multibootusb. I'm a basic user, don't know how to configute them manually. the usb has 4 partitions and I chose the 4th in order. maybe is that?
[20:12] <Rimann> can anyone possibly walk me through the installation of WINE and SketchUp
[20:12] <Rimann> i've been trying to figure it out and keep running into problems
[20:12] <wileee> LuiX, You used the multiboot app to assign the persistence to an iso?
[20:12] <ubuntu953> hey! i have dualbooted 15.04 with win8.1. but on restart it loads directly to windows. i have read several posts but cant understand what to do
[20:13] <LuiX> I'm not very sure of what you're asking. I chose the iso on multiboot and it asked me if i wanted persistence. heres the partition of the USB any ideas on how could I troubleshoot a liveUSB that the persistence is not working? here's the boot log http://pastebin.com/n8FFMpsz
[20:14] <LuiX> ^ wileee
[20:14] <EriC^^> ubuntu953: press esc when the pc boots, do you get a boot options menu in the list?
[20:15] <EriC^^> ubuntu953: try to boot the live usb and press try ubuntu and come on irc
[20:15] <ubuntu953_> it shows boot options but no linux
[20:16] <ubuntu953_> i mean ubuntu
[20:16] <wileee> LuiX, When you add persistence it is to a specific iso, only one, not the usb on all iso's is all. the main gui has the persistence button with the list of any iso's loaded.
[20:16] <EriC^^> ok, are you in the live usb right now?
[20:16] <ubuntu953_> no i will have to restart again
[20:16] <Cay> Here is my syslog after my latest crash: http://pastebin.ca/3175088
[20:16] <EriC^^> ubuntu953_: ok
[20:17] <ubuntu953_> also i had chosen the advanced option during install and manually set the partitions
[20:19] <wileee> LuiX, I'm assuming your using the multisystem usb loader, however all multiloading has this persistence issue, unless you were able to bypass it some way.
[20:19] <EriC^^> ubuntu953_: ok, np, boot the live usb
[20:20] <Rimann> ubuntu953_ what kind of pc are you using?
[20:21] <ubuntu953_> kind of pc in the sense? it has uefi
[20:21] <LuiX> wileee, any suggestions on a beginner-friendly way to creating a usb persistent? already tried unetbootin and ubuntu disk creator, but in the last one i can't choose the right partition.
[20:21] <wileee> LuiX, Partition?
[20:21] <ubuntu953_> going to restart and boot into live usb
[20:22] <chiara> ciao
[20:22] <mystupidnick> im trying to get login from kdm to unity desktop work. but it just hangs with an empty desktop background
[20:22] <wileee> LuiX, Are you trying to have a persistent partition, or file in the partition with the iso?
[20:23] <mystupidnick> but starting unity from within kde with "unity --replace" works
[20:23] <Rimann> ubuntu953_ i had a similar problem, this worked for me but im not sure if it will work for you, I didn't partition mine. Boot options >efi>grub>ubuntu
[20:23] <kk0710> hey guys I want to be able to connect my 14.04 server Desktop to my TV as a monitor via HDMI, I was thinking of getting the gtx 970  but realize I am not a PC gamer so don't really need that, any suggestions?
[20:23] <LuiX> wileee, the usb is partitioned. here's the layout. http://imgur.com/s4lGMp9 I wanted to have a windows compatible sector and an encrypted one. i reserved sdb4 for the system and the space for the persistence.
[20:26] <chiara> !list
[20:26] <wileee> LuiX, I have no idea, I saw the encrypt. I just wonder if you know the limitations of a live and persistent setup is all, all in all this is a setup that makes any sense.
[20:28] <LuiX> wileee, yeah. Any suggestion on how to make a liveUSB that : 1) has persistence 2) has a windows-compatible partition 3) has an encrypted partition?
[20:30] <LuiX> wileee, i'm far from expert, but the order of the partition could play a part on this? does it always have to be the first partition the one that boots?
[20:30] <LuiX> I'll try to rearrange the partitions
[20:31] <wileee> LuiX, any fat or ntfs is windows readable, however has to be first partition on a plugin in windows. you have a tiny ext2 there. You have the usb set up as a full install model is all,  except for the sdb1 which is a fat which is the live install file type unless you dd.
[20:32] <LuiX> wileee, you recommend that I rearrange the partitions?
[20:32] <wileee> LuiX, You also have the partitions out of numerical order from left to right, that makes things convoluted
[20:33] <Jakey2> how do i install virtualbox externtion pack from terminal
[20:33] <bekks> VBoxManage extpack ...
[20:33] <LuiX> wileee, I'll rearrange them and see what happens
[20:34] <wileee> LuiX, Do you want the encrypt seen from windows and linux/
[20:34] <LuiX> wileee, is it possible?
[20:35] <wileee> LuiX, I ask because windows will only see the first partition is all on a usb.
[20:35] <LuiX> wileee, no problem if its not readable by windows
[20:36] <bekks> wileee: Thats not true. Windows perfectly sees and uses multiple partitions on an USB device.
[20:37] <wileee> bekks, It can but not stock, and not easy as far as I know, but I like to learn.
[20:38] <bekks> wileee: Totally easy - Just configure drive letters for the extra partitions.
[20:38] <aedend> Is glibc the same as (Ubuntu EGLIBC 2.19-0ubuntu6.6) 2.19 ?
[20:38] <LuiX> so...
[20:38] <bekks> aedend: glibc is not the same as eglibc.
[20:38] <wileee> LuiX, More info, never done it but bekks knows there stuff.
[20:39] <kk0710> hey guys I want to be able to connect my 14.04 server Desktop to my TV as a monitor via HDMI, I was thinking of getting the gtx 970  but realize I am not a PC gamer so don't really need that, any suggestions?
[20:40] <aedend> bekks, ok, I did apt search for glibc but all I could find was glibc-source glibc-doc and glibc-doc-reference. Do I need to install glibc from source?
[20:41] <clei> hay
[20:42] <bekks> aedend: Whats the actual problem you are trying to solve?
[20:42] <wileee> LuiX, So not sure on encrypting, but for the persistent iso, load a iso to a fat32 partition using an app, and assign persistence to the iso when loading choose a size there that works. I like the multisystem usb loader, the ones you mentioned should work.
[20:44] <LuiX> wileee, all the solutions on that i've found (loading to a fat) required a windows app. any app that makes this on linux?
[20:45] <aedend> bekks, it's probably offtopic at this point. Trying to do a linix from scratch install. Getting make errors. Thanks for your help
[20:45] <bekks> aedend: So you are trying to install LFS, not Ubuntu?
[20:45] <wileee> LuiX, This site has many, this is the one I use so I'm biased here. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[20:46] <aedend> bekks, installing LFS and using Ubuntu as the host.
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> !lfs
[20:47] <wileee> LuiX, I think the key here if you have multiple partitions is just have the one mounted you want the iso in
[20:47] <bekks> aedend: Well, this isnt LFS support. :)
[20:48] <LuiX> I see wileee
[20:48] <aedend> bekks, I understand that, that is why I said "it's probably offtopic at this point" :) Just wanted to check here about (Ubuntu EGLIBC 2.19-0ubuntu6.6) 2.19. Thanks for the help. You also, MonkeyDust
[20:49] <LuiX> i'll check that site wileee
[20:50] <wileee> LuiX, With the gui app loaders, I'm not sure partition choice is in their menus in general, general use is one partition o a usb. This can all be done from the command line if you wanted to look it up. I like the gui's myself.
[20:51] <wileee> cool
[20:51] <LuiX> I like them too, wileee. So far every one worked, the system booted, but persistent just wasnt there
[20:52] <LuiX> for example i get this in line 11 http://pastebin.com/n8FFMpsz
[20:53] <wileee> LuiX, Open the usb and look fpr a casper in there, in home I believe.
[20:53] <wileee> for*
[20:54] <wileee> casper-rw I believe
[20:54] <anternat> i cannot ping my server locally but it is already connected to the internet
[20:54] <LuiX> wileee, there is a folder
[20:54] <anternat> what must i do?
[20:55] <wileee> LuiX, right click it and find the size of it
[20:55] <LuiX> wileee, 1.4Gb
[20:56] <wileee> LuiX, Hmm, big enough, not sure why there is an issue, just have had no issues here is all.
[20:57] <wileee> LuiX, In the iso loaded partition right?
[20:58] <wileee> sdb1 was the only one that is a valid to use is all
[20:59] <LuiX> wileee, yes, in sdb4 there is a folder named casper, full path is /media/root/multibootusb/lxle-14.04.3-64bit/casper
[21:02] <wileee> LuiX, All wrong partition types except the fat32, that is where the iso and persistent should be. This is an iso load, you set up a full install partitioning setup, except for the fat. So wipe it if nothing is needed, put the windows needed partition first then a fat32 next for ubuntu, and the 3rd partition for your encrypt
[21:02] <asklepian> does anyone know what the future of gesture support looks like in ubuntu?
[21:03] <asklepian> I know about touchegg
[21:03] <asklepian> but I'm trying to make the transition to ubuntu from mac, which has better touch tool
[21:03] <asklepian> and gestures just make everything SOOO much easier
[21:03] <bekks> Thats why they work perfectly on my Mac, running OSX ;)
[21:03] <LuiX> got it wileee
[21:04] <asklepian> right, but I want to move over to ubuntu
[21:04] <asklepian> and touchegg is... not that great
[21:05] <bekks> asklepian: You will not find a satisfying tool on Ubuntu when knowing how gestures work on OSX :)
[21:05] <asklepian> I wish I knew enough about programming to be able to dissect better touch tool
[21:06] <asklepian> well that's a shame
[21:07] <wileee> LuiX, Cool, let us know when you need info. ;)
[21:07] <LuiX> i'll keep you posted wileee
[21:08] <anternat> can eth0 and wlan0 have same local static ip address?
[21:09] <jonty> hey anybody???
[21:10] <sandman7_> hey jonty, how’s it going
[21:11] <mrkie> hey
[21:12] <mrkie> i need to know what ip has my acryan playonhd nas, i can use it as being a samba share, how will i know it?
[21:14] <bekks> mrkie: Access it as documented in the manual, and configure your shares as documented in there.
[21:18] <Karl_> Hi gys, I want to add a new video card to my 14.04 server, I just want to have hdmi out as I won't be doing any hardcore gaming and will be used more for watching movies on my tv.  Any suggestions?
[21:19] <jonty> hey sandman7_ ,, its good , how's it going there
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> jonty  this is the ubuntu support channel
[21:21] <jonty> hey guys i just installed xubuntu , my bluetooth audio handset in not working anymore ,, it is working perfectly in mint and ubuntu
[21:21] <mrkie> bekks: solved
[21:22] <jonty> yeah it says solved on th forums but those methods are not working
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> jonty  if you don't get an answer here, there are some 100 people in #xubuntu
[21:24] <jonty> thnx MOnkeyDust
[21:35] <frolog> how dcan i compare 2 files easily in ubuntu? like winmerge for windows?
[21:36] <w30> frolog, diff
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> it's called diffutils
[21:37] <Bashing-om> frolog: There is 'diff' - compare files line by line.
[21:37] <w30> frolog, diff file1 file2
[21:39] <w30> frolog, like MonkyDust says. You probably have it
[21:39] <akik> frolog: kdiff3 is a graphical diff tool
[21:40] <LuiX> wileee: I did it
[21:40] <LuiX> wileee: here`s what I did. Partitioned like this. 1 and 2 are fat32 and the third is an encrypted. I ran multibootusb and installed on partition 2, with persistence for 1gb. found some problems because multibootusb flagged the 1st one as boot, not the 2nd. flagged it mannualy and here I am.
[21:41] <wileee> LuiX, Cool, good job. ;)
[21:46] <Jakey2> can you install a virtual machine in headless mode
[21:46] <Jakey2> from the .iso
[21:46] <bekks> Sure.
[21:46] <Jakey2> which command
[21:47] <bekks> Jakey2: Not a single command, but a workflow.
[21:52] <ac3takwas> hi guys I have just installed lunbuntu-desktop, but it appears to have come with three different DEs: LXDE, Lubuntu and Lubuntu Netbook
[21:52] <ac3takwas> How do they differ?
[21:53] <treeprogram> my machine upgraded to 14.03, and now the GUI doesn't work. I'm trying to copy some terminal commands from a webpage into the laptop, but they're really long. Is there anyway to copy text from a webpage using only a text-only editor and the keyboard, and paste it into terminal?
[21:53] <bekks> Which commands are you trying to copy?
[21:54] <treeprogram> at Edit 2: http://answers.ros.org/question/203610/ubuntu-14042-unmet-dependencies-similar-for-14043/?answer=203724#post-id-203724
[21:54] <bekks> treeprogram: Erm what are you trying to do there?
[21:55] <bekks> treeprogram: How about forgetting those 3rd party forumns and just start telling us whats the actual problem?
[21:55] <treeprogram> I got some errors trying to install programs another guide said I needed to get the GUI working, and am at this site trying to fix those errors
[21:55] <bekks> treeprogram: How about forgetting those 3rd party forumns and just start telling us whats the actual problem?
[21:56] <ac3takwas> I have just installed lunbuntu-desktop, but it appears to have come with three different DEs: LXDE, Lubuntu and Lubuntu Netbook
[21:56] <treeprogram> bekks: ok so the problem is that I'm getting this error when booting up: The system is running in low-graphics mode”, as described here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[21:56] <ac3takwas> How do they differ among themselves?
[21:56] <bekks> ac3takwas: Start them and see yourself? :)
[21:57] <wileee> ac3takwas, lxde is the base of lubuntu netbook different gui, take a looksie at them.
[21:57] <bekks> treeprogram: And did you follow the instruction on that site?
[21:58] <jelmd> where is ‘fortune’ burried in ubuntu?
[21:58] <treeprogram> bekks: I tried the top answer, and it didn't work
[21:58] <treeprogram> the failsafex didn't do anything, it returned me to the previous screen
[21:59] <treeprogram> and I tried installing nvidia drivers again, which was the fall back solution, and it didn't solve it
[21:59] <bekks> treeprogram: How didnt it work? What did you do, what did you expect, what happened instead? Please be more precise, you did not provide any details until now.
[21:59] <wiltors42> Hi I am having trouble with using dual monitors on my NVIDIA card
[21:59] <treeprogram> ok I'll do it again, and document it precisely
[21:59] <wiltors42> One is DVI and the others VGA
[21:59] <wiltors42> The DVI works fine but my VGA is misaligned like this
[22:00] <w30> jelmd, /usr/games/fortune
[22:00] <ac3takwas> bekks, wileee thanks
[22:00] <TJ-> wiltors42: when you reported this earlier I suggested it might be an EDID problem; did you check the Xorg.0.log for such problems querying the VGA monitor?
[22:01] <wiltors42> Ah, I checked xorg.1.log but never heard back from you about what to check for and how to fix it
[22:01] <jelmd> w30: thanx! (oh man, how stupid can ppl be …).
[22:01] <_SLM_> Hi. I installed https://nitrux.in/store/nitrux-icon-theme/ according to the instructions but it didn't work. So I searched online for answers and stumbled on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Icons however step 1 (Open Synaptic - Press "Alt+F2" and enter "gksu synaptic", you will be asked for your password.) doesn't work either. Thus, I am stuck. Does anyone know how I can get a icon pack to work from repository?
[22:01] <treeprogram> bekks: well, rebooting it seems to have fixed the problem! I had installed a bunch of stuff so maybe one of those installations needed a reboot to go into effect
[22:02] <TJ-> wiltors42: The log records what the Xorg server finds/does. If there is an EDID error it'll report that (you'll see "EDID" mentioned). EDID is the data block the monitor sends to the GPU over the VGA DDC connection telling the GPU what modes/frequencies the monitor supports.
[22:02] <TJ-> wiltors42: at a terminal you can also check the modes recognised for the monitor output with "xrandr -q"
[22:03] <wileee> _SLM_, You've downloaded the pack you want?
[22:03] <_SLM_> Yes
[22:04] <wileee> _SLM_, apt-get?
[22:04] <_SLM_> Yes. sudo apt-get install nitrux-icon-theme
[22:04] <_SLM_> It is installed
[22:04] <wiltors42> It says 1680x1050x0x0
[22:05] <wiltors42> 1680x1050 is the monitor and 0x0 is the offset
[22:05] <wiltors42> The monitors horizontal is 65khz
[22:06] <wileee> _SLM_, Can I see the ppa your using?
[22:06] <_SLM_> Yes. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nitrux-team/nitrux-artwork
[22:08] <wileee> _SLM_, Cool, not sure why it would not show in standard theme/icon change areas, if that pack has all you need, I see 35 in all.
[22:09] <_SLM_> Where am I supposed to see icon packs exactly? Maybe I missed something in the Settings window?
[22:09] <wileee> _SLM_, In unity the unity tweak tool would be one.
[22:10] <wiltors42> TJ-: pastebin.com/mtE5v4g6
[22:12] <ac3takwas> Which of these is often best suited for a developer: LXDE, Lubuntu or Lubuntu Netbook?
[22:13] <wileee> ac3takwas, kinda a personal choice don't you think?
[22:14] <TJ-> wiltors42: OK, so you see for CRT1 (the VGA) the selected (*) and preferred (+) mode is 1680x1050@60Hz. Is the monitor actually capable of that?
[22:14] <_SLM_> wileee, thanks for that tip. I did not that that tool so I installed it and looked at it. I can see the icon pack there, but it does not see to have a 'Activate'-like button there?
[22:14] <wiltors42> Yes
[22:14] <wiltors42> That's the monitors specs exactly
[22:14] <ac3takwas> Uhm, I just need your experiential tip/suggestion
[22:15] <wileee> _SLM_, Generally you have drop down and it changes when chosen, try a logout if needed.
[22:15] <TJ-> wiltors42: Try switching to a slightly lower resolution: "xrandr --output CRT1 --mode 1600x1200"
[22:16] <_SLM_> wileee, it works. I just didn't notice. :) Thanks for your help!
[22:16] <TJ-> wiltors42: Also, the fragment from Xorg log looks like there is an EDID sent. Can you pastebin the entire file?
[22:16] <_SLM_> Unity Tweak Tool did the trick
[22:16] <wileee> _SLM_, Excellent, enjoy.
[22:16] <wiltors42> That helped a lot except now the screen is kinda squished and still a bit blurry
[22:18] <wiltors42> pastebin.com/uxicCazM
[22:20] <wiltors42> Any way I could get the proper resolution on my monitor?
[22:21] <daftykins> not using VGA like i said yesterday?
[22:22] <wiltors42> I am using VGA
[22:23] <daftykins> i'm saying _don't_
[22:23] <daftykins> use a cable type from the last many years ;)
[22:23] <TJ-> wiltors42: There are some serious (EE)rrors in the log which could well be contributing to the issue. "(EE) AIGLX error: failed to open /usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so, error[/usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]"
[22:24] <wiltors42> Well initially I was trying to use both DVI but the only other graphics card I have is AMD
[22:24] <wiltors42> And my graphics card doesn't have two DVI ports
[22:24] <TJ-> wiltors42: I stay away from AMD/ATI GPUs and the fglrx driver so I'm not sure how critical that is, but it looks serious. Did you boot with "nomodeset" ("cat /proc/cmdline") ?
[22:24] <daftykins> i think you keep swapping your cards but you have a xorg.conf created by amdconfig --initial, because the xorg log speaks of the PCI Bus ID being wrong - TJ- what do you think? (line 390)
[22:24] <valentinmu> hello everyone)
[22:25] <TJ-> daftykins: wiltors42 There isn't an xorg.conf; it's auto-configuring
[22:26] <daftykins> ah ok, weird that file refers to a Bus ID being presented then
[22:26] <wiltors42> I booted with "boot_image=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-63...etc"
[22:26] <TJ-> wiltors42: daftykins But that pastebin is an old file isn't it, look at its last line. Check for the most recent log with "ls -latr /var/log/Xorg*.log" and I'll bet it's "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" we need to see
[22:27] <daftykins> ah yes, we are being supplied with lies!
[22:27] <mentoc> does /etc/init.d/ssh control ssh or sshd?
[22:27] <TJ-> daftykins: :D
[22:27] <TJ-> daftykins: old truths :)
[22:27]  * daftykins feels shocked
[22:28] <wiltors42> Pastebin.com/8kLFYF3k
[22:29] <wiltors42> I thought xorg.0.log was for monitor 0  and xorg.1.log was for monitor 1
[22:29] <mentoc> I'm attempting to do /etc/init.d/ssh status and it's not saying anything. It returns with a status of 1. Is there something wrong here?
[22:29] <daftykins> however you're pastebin'ing these logs, it doesn't look right :S
[22:30] <crunchbang> Hi. I upgraded kernel to 4.1 and now getting this error ........ http://www.picpaste.com/pics/image-pTnfspx8.1443305623.jpeg
[22:30] <wiltors42> How so?
[22:30] <daftykins> crunchbang: are you running crunchbang?
[22:30] <TJ-> wiltors42: No, .0, .1 are for the X session.
[22:30] <valentinmu> got question about moving user data. i have clean ubuntu install with two folders in /home: /home/oldUser and /home/newUser. oldUser is about 300G. i want to move old user data without moving those 300g(just by renaming old to new). can i achieve this somehow?
[22:31] <TJ-> wiltors42: I run 6 monitors across 3 GPUs and everything is reported in a single log
[22:31] <DaMountie> hello
[22:31] <crunchbang> daftykins: now i do, just to get online and aks for help so i can fix my system
[22:31] <daftykins> crunchbang: why did you put on v4.1 ?
[22:31] <daftykins> throwing on newer kernels without reason is very foolish
[22:31] <g_> чћл
[22:31] <crunchbang> daftykins: i have an SSD issue and i've read that newest kernel fixed it
[22:31] <g_> јк
[22:32] <Guest2106> јкл
[22:32] <daftykins> crunchbang: well, that is far too vague - that image is also terrible
[22:32] <wiltors42> Ah ok. So you want xorg.0.log?
[22:32] <Guest2106> е пизде
[22:32] <daftykins> !ru
[22:32] <zteam> Hi all!
[22:32] <alu> Hey I need to install nvidia drivers what is the best way to do that now
[22:32] <Guest2106> шта је ово који курац?
[22:32] <alu> I just deleted all drivers
[22:32] <alu> im in tty now and should I install the ppa?
[22:33] <crunchbang> daftykins: look, its about nvidia driver. before, on my old kernel i had the same and it would work after i'd go to safe mode and reconfigure
[22:33] <Guest2106> ас
[22:33] <crunchbang> daftykins: now i tried the same but it gave me that error
[22:33] <TJ-> wiltors42: We want the most recently changed log, whatever number it has in its name
[22:33] <daftykins> crunchbang: yeah because it's not building for the suspect kernel you put on.
[22:34] <crunchbang> daftykins: :(
[22:34] <crunchbang> daftykins: what can be done?
[22:34] <zteam> I have a problem with Kodi, sometimes then I try to exit the program it just hangs and refuses to exit properly, recently it even results in zombie-processes if I try to kill it throught the Task managager or killall -9 kodi.bin
[22:34] <daftykins> crunchbang: purge and reinstall the nvidia packages and see whether they build
[22:34] <zteam> How can I get rid of that zombie-process?
[22:34] <daftykins> zteam: #kodi
[22:35] <daftykins> zteam: Kodi is not ubuntu's responsibility
[22:35] <wiltors42> Xorg.1.log looks like
[22:35] <wiltors42> Which I already sent
[22:35] <Bashing-om> alu: Recommended is install drivers from our software repository . what result ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' ? Take the easy way .
[22:35] <crunchbang> daftykins: pfff
[22:36] <Jakey2> how do i delete a vm with vboxmange
[22:36] <zteam> daftykins, I agree on that, but that's not really what I'm asking about, I wonder how I can kill a zombie process (it just happens to be created by kodi)
[22:36] <zteam> daftykins, :-)
[22:36] <daftykins> that's nice, dear
[22:36] <alu> Bashing-om: I use that command and it just werks?
[22:37] <Enaell> hi guys
[22:37] <alu> what about sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[22:37] <bprompt> zteam:    if it shows under "ps -ax", I'd think you can simply give it to "killall"
[22:37] <lwd> Hi
[22:37] <Jakey2> with vboxmanage unregistervm “lub14.04.03” -delete
[22:38] <daftykins> crunchbang: what is your sound effect about?
[22:38] <lwd> Where can I download a Ubuntu 14.04.x LTS minimal ISO?
[22:38] <daftykins> !mini
[22:38] <daftykins> there.
[22:38] <crunchbang> daftykins: sound effect ??
[22:38] <daftykins> 'pff'
[22:38] <zteam> bprompt, that's not helping :-/
[22:39] <lwd> Thank you, daftykins.
[22:39] <TJ-> wiltors42: That log you sent has the last line "(EE) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file."  Are you using IRC from the problem PC?
[22:39] <wiltors42> No
[22:40] <Bashing-om> alu: Yeah . Will install from our repo . Providing the prior driver was completely removed .
[22:40] <wiltors42> I cat it out into a doc and then copy paste the doc into the pastebin and then I'm typing the URL into IRC on my phone
[22:40] <bprompt> zteam: that's what I can think of, offhand :/
[22:40] <TJ-> wiltors42: Is the problem PC logged into a user session with the GUI?
[22:40] <Enaell> excuse me guys? I'm trying to install Ubuntu, but I don't know how to make differend partitions of my hard drive :(
[22:40] <Bashing-om> !ppa | alu
[22:41] <TJ-> wiltors42: helpful tip. "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" and then to paste a file simply do "pastebinit /path/to/file" or "some-command | pastebinit" and tell us the URL it reports
[22:42] <zteam> bprompt, I understand thank you anyway :-)
[22:42] <wiltors42> Ok well here's an interesting fact. When I put the install disc into the computer and boot it the resolution is fine at first but then it goes back to misalignment
[22:43] <Bashing-om> Enaell: K; so why do you not accept the " erase disk and intall ubuntu " option ?
[22:43] <wiltors42> While it's in the purple loading screen
[22:43] <wiltors42> I was just going to try reinstalling
[22:43] <daftykins> it's not at native res on the purple boot splash
[22:43] <daftykins> (or might not be)
[22:43] <TJ-> wiltors42: That sounds like a monitor issue. I'd be checking the cable is securely connected, and the pins in the connectors aren't bent or fractured
[22:43] <daftykins> and that you ditch VGA *cough*
[22:43] <Enaell> Bashing-om : because i want to have a dual boot :/
[22:44] <alu> I get a black screen after install nvidia drivers
[22:44] <daftykins> alu: pastebin 'lspci'
[22:44] <Bashing-om> Enaell: K;. Moving on, dual boot with what ?
[22:44] <alu> Oh wait it seems to be on
[22:45] <alu> I need to test if it works with my deep learning software though and for that I need cuda drivers, do I get them separately?
[22:45] <wiltors42> Well I wouldn't be using VGA if I could use DVI
[22:45] <alu> I installed nvidia-355 from  ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa and
[22:45] <Enaell> Bashing-om : Win8.1 !
[22:45] <apt-get_> Hey, can anyone tell me how to fix fonts looking like this?
[22:45] <apt-get_> https://ptpb.pw/j1Pm.png
[22:45] <happyfr0gg> Does anyone know what irc network and channel knoppix operates in?
[22:45] <Bashing-om> alu: Boot to terminal . and inspect the " /var/log/Xorg.0.log " for what did not happen .
[22:45] <happyfr0gg> Bing and Google does not give me sufficient results.
[22:46] <daftykins> happyfr0gg: nope, thought that distro died.
[22:47] <bprompt> apt-get_:     check your desktop manager settings, set "antialiasing" ON for all fonts, maybe with sub-pixel rendering on as well, and Hinting on
[22:47] <daftykins> happyfr0gg: i'm getting plenty of results with webchats on google.
[22:47] <apt-get_> bprompt: fonts were way too darkened / 'strong' with antialiasing on for all fonts
[22:47] <apt-get_> besides, my other applications look fine
[22:48] <apt-get_> only firefox looks bad
[22:48] <happyfr0gg> daftykins - I don't think it died. I think it is still in use and available for download. The latest version is 7.4.2.
[22:48] <daftykins> happyfr0gg: that's nice - not relevant here though - you best find and connect to a network and channel for it
[22:48] <bprompt> apt-get_:    well, grainy fonts, usually means, they're not being antialiased by the app, and in this case the webbrowser, the webbrowser uses systrem settings antialiasing for its font rendering engine, if the system has it on, it will antialiase them
[22:49] <apt-get_> bprompt: I already have autohinting on and sub-pixel rendering on (rgb)
[22:49] <apt-get_> enabling antialiasing makes the font a lot worse on a lot of other applications
[22:49] <alu> Yeah I have the same issue, cuda runtime error
[22:50] <happyfr0gg> daftykins-  I am trying to locate the official irc network and channel for Knoppix. They do not have this info available on their site.
[22:50] <bprompt> apt-get_:    ok..... hmmm did you just did? for that takes effect only on newly opened apps :)
[22:50] <Bashing-om> Enaell: K; Windows tools for Windows situation. In Windows, degrag twice, shrink the OS partition, run windows chkdsk twice. In ubuntu point the installer to the unallocated space .
[22:50] <OerHeks> happyfr0gg, just checked, not here on #Freenode, good luck.
[22:50] <alu> do I also install cuda drivers from ppa?
[22:50] <Bashing-om> defrag*
[22:50] <alu> or from the nvidia .run file
[22:50] <apt-get_> bprompt: yeah
[22:51] <frolog> whats the absolute path to /usr/ ?
[22:51] <happyfr0gg> daftykins-  I thought maybe someone in this channel would point in the correct direction. Thanks anyways.
[22:51] <bprompt> apt-get_:     try maybe in  ... you said is firefox only... try making a new profile in firefox, and check if that new profile does the same thing on that url
[22:51] <Enaell> Bashing-om, i just did it on Win, now i have 6GB free space separated. But i don't know how to set it on ubuntu :(
[22:52] <juan_> hola
[22:55] <Bashing-om> Enaell: Scary thouhgt, I do not think that 6 Gigs is near enough. I think I have seen where the minimu, recommeded size is 30 Gigs for a good lasting experience .  I know I can do it, i just.. don't know what to do x)
[22:57] <bprompt> Enaell:     agree up there with Bashing-om , my base 14.04 installation, was aroun 9gbs IIRC
[22:57] <Enaell> bprompt : oh okay yeah i sea
[22:57] <Bashing-om> Enaell: While it is possible to mess with Windows partitions from ubuntu's partition editor, I do not advocate that course . It is Windows' tools for Windows' file system .
[23:00] <bprompt> Enaell:     what hmmm what app are you using in windows to partition? the one that comes with 8.1?    but that one would work for partitioning, though you could always install Easus partitioning tool, which has more options, is a small install, but give the *nix partition around 15gbs or more though
[23:03] <Enaell> Bashing-om : Okay ! I use the windows basic tool.. But the fact is that people can, on the youtube tutorials, take an option from Ubuntu Installer to create a special part automaticatly on the Hard Drive; and i don't
[23:04] <Enaell> Bashing-om : this one : https://assets.ubuntu.com/sites/ubuntu/latest/u/img/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop/image-installdesktoplongtermsupport-4.jpg
[23:05] <Bashing-om> Enaell: I stand ny my last . Windows' tools . Windows understands the Window's file system much better than linux can or will .
[23:05] <netameta> anyone knows apache rewrite mode and could answer this:  you can do something like RewriteRule ^ components/(.+?\.html) /..c/omponents/$1 [R=301,L] - so you will serve files from 1 folder back
[23:06] <daftykins> Enaell: what's your issue? not enough space huh? have you shared an image / pastebin of your current disk setup?
[23:06] <Enaell> Bashing-om : yeah? So i'll try to do it. DId you think i should separate like, 20Gb or 300Gb?
[23:06] <daftykins> netameta: ask in #httpd perhaps
[23:06] <bali> can someone help me,
[23:06] <netameta> daftykins, asked there as well, though maybe in here might know
[23:07] <Enaell> daftykins : no i share an image of an option i don't have. When people install Ubuntu, they have this : http://i.stack.imgur.com/xaQ3N.png. which i don't have : so i have to partition my hard drive (i want a dual boot) manually. But the fact is that i don't know how to do it
[23:07] <Bashing-om> Enaell: IRT the link, you should see that menu, as as you have set aside space for ubuntu to install to, choose ' Something Else ' as your install option . The install wizard will happily install ubunti to that unallocated space .
[23:07] <bali> l want to update ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10, pls
[23:08] <wileee> bali, both are end of life, get to 14.04
[23:08] <TJ-> netameta: something like this? "RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/perl/gitweb.cgi$" .. "RewriteRule . /gitweb/ [QSA,R,L]" ?
[23:08] <Enaell> Bashing-om : i don't have the same menu, that's the point :( wait i'm going to tell you the two options i have
[23:08] <bali> ok, how can l get it pls.
[23:09] <wileee> bali, safest would be back up and fresh install.
[23:09] <bali> ok, thanks
[23:09] <wileee> np
[23:09] <john_doe_jr> how do I log in as the domain admin instead of the admin to a computer?
[23:09] <netameta> TJ-, i am not sure what you wrote there
[23:09] <Bashing-om> Enaell: There are pros and cons to separate partitons for ubuntu. I do advocate a separate partition for '/' and one for /home. Other separations will depend on YOUR use case .
[23:10] <daftykins> john_doe_jr: that sounds like a Windows question :P
[23:11] <TJ-> netameta: It's one of several similar rules I use for gitweb rewrites, as an example.
[23:11] <john_doe_jr> daftykins: sorry it's through cygwin
[23:12] <Bashing-om> Enaell: How did you install Win8 ? Is is a factory install such that the default firmware is UEFI ? .
[23:12] <bali> wileee, l'm downlaod it now
[23:12] <Enaell> Bashing-om : it was installed when i get the laptop. Yep it's UEFI : the laptop have less than 3 weeks of existence !
[23:14] <john_doe_jr> I found out how to do it: ssh -l<EMAIL_ADDRESS>someserver.com
[23:14] <TJ-> netameta: you're trying to do something like this? "RewriteRule ^(.*)/components/(.+?\.html)$ $1/$2 [R=301,L]"
[23:15] <Enaell> Bashing-om : so i have two options when i'm in front of the Ubuntu Installer :
[23:15] <bekks> john_doe_jr: What is that supposed to do?
[23:15] <Enaell> Bashing-om : - erase disk and install ubuntu // - something else
[23:15] <daftykins> john_doe_jr: haha i don't think you use the mailto at all :P
[23:15] <Bashing-om> Enaell: Then when you boot the install medium in UEFI mode, I do expect that the option " something else " to be available. Maybe best to await others advise here who have installed ubunto in dual boot with Win8 . I have not done so .
[23:16] <Enaell> Bashing-om : ok ty dude :)
[23:17] <netameta> TJ-, I am trying to basically redirect domain.com/componenebt to a folder that is "upper" in the tree then the main folder
[23:17] <TJ-> netameta: and that directory isn't the literal text 'component' ?
[23:17] <john_doe_jr> Whoops ….ssh -l use@domain someserver.com
[23:17] <daftykins> why would anyone even go to the virtual directory if you want them at a higher path o0
[23:18] <netameta> say i have website in website i have website/dist, website/componenet - my root is set to website/dist, but i need to grab files from website/componenets
[23:18] <Bashing-om> Enaell: Not a lot of help. .. Again, will need much greater than 6 Gigs to install ubuntu onto .
[23:18] <Enaell> Bashing-om : yes i'm going to add more space
[23:18] <bekks> john_doe_jr: ssh -l user host is the same as ssh user@host
[23:19] <daftykins> Enaell: defrag windows drives and empty the recycle bin, then try another shrink
[23:19] <frolog> how do i remove all files named libopencv_XXXX.so ?
[23:19] <netameta> TJ-, does that make sense ?
[23:19] <TJ-> netameta: I'm not entirely clear on what you're after; maybe "RewriteRule ^(.*)/(.*)/(.+?\.html)$ $1/$3 [R=301,L]"  ?
[23:19] <frolog> like rm libopencv*.so?
[23:20] <Bashing-om> Enaell: :) .. Then is but a thing, choose " Something Else" as the install option, and point the installer to the unallocated space .
[23:20] <netameta> TJ-, i want to go "a folder backward" to fatch the desired content
[23:20] <TJ-> netameta: my last offering should do that. It strips out the last directory component
[23:21] <netameta> You mean "RewriteRule ^(.*)/components/(.+?\.html)$ $1/$2 [R=301,L]" ?
[23:22] <netameta> or "RewriteRule ^(.*)/(.*)/(.+?\.html)$ $1/$3 [R=301,L]" ?
[23:23] <netameta> TJ-, what those expression do is basically catch a certain part of the request ui,  remove it and apply it right after the domain.com i need to go one folder before domain.com if that makes sense
[23:23] <TJ-> netameta: the last one. the 2nd match group isn't used in the rewritesubstitution
[23:23] <TJ-> netameta: no, it doesn't. Write some complete before/after examples in a pastebin :)
[23:24] <netameta> ok making a pastbin
[23:28] <netameta> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/dWmjDNYi
[23:29] <netameta> TJ-, That should be pretty clear
[23:31] <Jakey2> im not clear how you install a virtual machine using vboxmanage when you are doing through ssh
[23:31] <Jakey2> how do you install on the client if you are in ssh
[23:31] <Jakey2> ?
[23:31] <daftykins> that's more of a #vbox question
[23:31] <daftykins> or at least, the folks there may be better at such queries
[23:32] <TJ-> netameta: Are you using it in VirtualHost or Directory context? If the web-root is website/dist/ then website/components/ is outside the web-root, so VirtualHost won't work, it'll have to be in Directory context.
[23:33] <netameta> TJ-, what you mean in the directory context ?
[23:34] <TJ-> netameta: You need to read the Apache docs on mod_rewrite and RewriteRule. Depending the context the match will be done on wither the URL, or the file-system path
[23:35] <TJ-> s/wither/either/
[23:35] <netameta> i see
[23:35] <netameta> i am reading them now, will see what i get
[23:37] <TJ-> netameta: remember, if you're working with the URL then the web-root (http://domain.tld/ == /home/domain.tld/public_html/) prevent you accessing a resource at, say, /home/domain.tld/components/
[23:40] <netameta> TJ-, how so ?
[23:40] <manuel__> somebody speak spanish? i have some questions but im not pretty god in the language
[23:40] <TJ-> netameta: that's basic web server organisation.
[23:41] <netameta> TJ-,  i guess what i can do is do normal rerouting
[23:41] <netameta> create another vhost to the compoenets
[23:41] <netameta> and simply redirect there
[23:42] <TJ-> netameta: Or use a Directory context for the rewrite. The examples are pretty clear: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewriterule
[23:42] <netameta> So something like "RewriteRule ^(.*)/components/(.+?\.html)$ http://newDomain.com/$2 [R=301,L]"
[23:43] <nomic> thats horrible
[23:43] <nomic> why not give them python script
[23:43] <NoteOn> hi
[23:43] <netameta> But by what i understand you cannot go a folder backword in the directory context TJ-
[23:44] <netameta> nomic, what i said is horrible ?
[23:45] <Bashing-om> !sp | manuel__ Maybe better in your native language ?
[23:46] <Bashing-om> !es | manuel__ Maybe better in your native language ?
[23:48] <manuel__> ok, thank you so much!
[23:48] <TJ-> netameta: best to play around with it with "LogLevel rewrite:trace8" and monitor the rewrite log
[23:49] <Bashing-om> manuel__: :)
[23:54] <lwd> Can I perform a expert install with the mini.iso ?
[23:54] <dbkaplun> So how many people here use nano?
[23:54] <daftykins> !poll
[23:54] <daftykins> damn it
[23:54] <daftykins> dbkaplun: no polls, support questions only
[23:55] <dbkaplun> daftykins: what terminal editor do you use?
[23:55]  * lwd married vim
[23:56] <manuel__> it seems to be difficult that somebody would be there
[23:56] <lwd> Can I perform a expert install with the mini.iso ?
[23:57] <manuel__> :(
[23:57] <manuel__> i hope english classes works here
[23:57] <wileee> lwd, it is bottom up not top down, if you have a cli you can install.
[23:58] <lwd> wileee: wat?
[23:59] <wileee> lwd, simple answer to a question you define.
[23:59] <lwd> So I can choose expert install?


[01:37] <maxb> Hrm... on raring it seems like some video files are playing much too bright - the effect is similar to a gamma adjustment
[01:37] <maxb> Looks like it could be gstreamer related - playing with xine-ui looks more normal
[10:52] <tim__> hi, trying to update one of my machines to 13.04, i'm getting the following error: http://pastie.org/private/olnreu1rgj7exjtltnifzq
[10:52] <tim__> any idea?
[10:54] <tim__> hm ... an apt-get dist-upgrade starts working ...
[10:56] <ikonia> tim__: how are you trying to upgrade
[10:57] <tim__> ikonia: do-release-upgrade -d
[10:57] <ikonia> tim__: never seen that before
[11:02] <tim__> ikonia: me neither ;)
[11:21] <ironhalik> the bug preventing installing amd64 is still out there?
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:12] <nonuby> any luck with getting skype working with latest daily builds?
[12:13] <nonuby> 64bit. skype: depends on skype-bin unable to correct problems etc..
[12:15] <nonuby> also used to click 'x' on xchat and it going to systray, this doesnt seem to be supported now since ubuntu prematurely removed systray whitelisting. xchat is the recommended irc client right?
[13:18] <murthy> hello everyone
[13:50] <timblechmann> hi, upgraded one of my machines to 13.04. unfortunately kde does not start anymore: a window pops up asking: `could not start d-bus. can you call qdbus?`
[13:50] <timblechmann> doing so, qdbus complains that it cannot open the config file: /usr/share/qchooser//default.conf
[13:50] <timblechmann> s/qchooser/qtchooser/
[13:58] <BluesKaj> timblechmann, drop to a tty and update/upgrade
[14:03] <timblechmann> BluesKaj: no changes with update/upgrade. but i have resolved it by fixing the symlink manually and installing qdbus for amd64 (for some reason only the i386 one was installed)
[14:03] <BluesKaj> weird
[14:03] <timblechmann> yes
[14:06] <BluesKaj> timblechmann, did you upgrade to 13.04 directly or with remote commands over a network ?
[14:07] <timblechmann> BluesKaj: i started via do-release-upgrade, which broke for some weird reason (pasted earlier). then i continued with apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:08] <BluesKaj> timblechmann, do-release-upgrade -d , I hope
[14:08] <timblechmann> yep
[14:08] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:09] <BluesKaj> timblechmann, could have been some left over ppas , sometimes they aren't deleted cleanly during the upgrade
[14:10] <timblechmann> BluesKaj: possibly. iirc i used one of the kubuntu ppas, which might have pulled in some qt version
[14:18] <MoPac> Since the overnight updates, is anyone else unable to get mouse settings to stick? If I slide the touchpad sensitivity up to max in the system settings application, then click one settings level up and then back, the sensitivity has reset to default.  Mouse behavior reflects this
[14:20] <Sonikk> hi, where does banshee store it configurations? i want to edit that file but i cannot find it (ubuntu 13.04)
[14:40] <bjsnider> persons still use banshee?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> i guess some do
[14:42] <mandoguit> http://banshee.fm/support/faq/       It is stored under ~/.config/banshee-1/. The library database itself is called banshee.db and is a SQLite 3 database.
[14:43] <mandoguit> maybe........don't know for sure as I don't have it installed here.  probably worth checking out though
[14:51] <arielsanflo> hello
[14:51] <arielsanflo> saludos a todos
[14:51] <arielsanflo> necesito ayuda
[14:52] <arielsanflo> con rtl8192cu no me compila en el kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:57] <BluesKaj> !es | arielsanflo
[14:58] <arielsanflo> yes
[14:58] <arielsanflo> undesrtand
[14:58] <Sonikk> mandoguit: thanks
[14:59] <MoPac> Since the overnight updates, is anyone else unable to get mouse settings to stick? If I slide the touchpad sensitivity up to max in the system settings application, then click one settings level up and then back, the sensitivity has reset to default.  Mouse behavior reflects this
[15:00] <BluesKaj> arielsanflo, why compile <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> it'll be in the repos soon
[15:00] <mandoguit> Sonikk:  yw
[15:01] <BluesKaj> anyway have to do some checking ..BBL
[15:01] <arielsanflo> rtl8192 no compile in kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:03] <arielsanflo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2076315&p=12318056#post12318056
[15:04] <arielsanflo> is bug what  resolve
[15:04] <arielsanflo> my english is so so
[16:36] <ironhalik> how, uh, bleeding edge is xorg-edgers ppa?  Any expirience with it?
[16:38] <ikonia> in what context ?
[16:39] <ironhalik> Reliability of the packages included
[16:39] <ikonia> for use with what ?
[16:39] <ironhalik> raring, for everyday, non-production use
[16:40] <ikonia> well, as raring is unstable....and the xorg-edgers stuff is bleeding edge, it seems like an unwise idea
[16:40] <ironhalik> Thats what I thought too, but on the other hand, I've got great expirience with alphas and betas of the last three releases of Ubuntu
[16:41] <ironhalik> Just wondering if xorg-edgers isn't pushing my luck.
[16:41] <IdleOne> ironhalik: give it a shot if your ok with possible system breakage
[16:42] <ironhalik> Yeah, I guess thats the only way to find out. I've got decent backup policy ;>
[16:42] <IdleOne> just don't come yelling at me when it does break :)
[16:43] <johnjohn101> is it bad that i want 13.04 out so I can start playing with the next generation of ubuntu?
[16:43] <ironhalik> Due to some issues with my radeon 7xxx performence with fglrx and fglrx-updates in raring, I need the latest betas. And there are some issues with installing them from AMD site
[16:44] <ironhalik> IdleOne: Ofcourse - I'm aware of the risks involved ;> It's always the beta-testers fault ;>
[16:44] <ironhalik> johnjohn101: It's perfectly normal ;>
[16:45] <johnjohn101> i'm looking for new equipment and was wondering what video is going to be best supported in mir.
[16:47] <johnjohn101> that being said,  i am now running 13.04 at home
[16:47] <IdleOne> hard to say when mir is pre-embryonic
[16:47] <IdleOne> I believe there is a #ubuntu-mir though
[16:48] <ironhalik> I'm also wondering hows the driver support comming. Considering linux always had some issues with vendor support, I'm kinda wary about additional display server
[16:48] <johnjohn101> ok, i'll go there.
[16:49] <ironhalik> btw - will Unity really switch to Qt?
[16:50] <IdleOne> that seems to be the plan
[16:50] <johnjohn101> read something that says in May-June, we'll see the preview of unity next.  I can't wait
[16:53] <jacobw> ironhalik: I certainly hope so, standardizing on QT is about 5 years overdue IMO
[16:53] <johnjohn101> why do you say that?
[16:53] <johnjohn101> i guess qt is further along than gtk?
[16:54] <jacobw> GTK just doesn't support rapid application development, it's an archiac framework of layers upon layers of hacks to make simple things work
[16:55] <jacobw> Read the project summary of libsexy, http://www.ohloh.net/p/libsexy
[16:56] <johnjohn101> interesting.
[17:00] <johnjohn101> qml is interesting but i think still in it's infancy
[17:03] <brendand> johnjohn101, it's more than three years old. i think that makes it a toddler :)
[17:28] <min|dvir|us> My video card drivers are completely busted.
[17:28] <min|dvir|us> I had to copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[17:28] <min|dvir|us> Any thoughts on this?
[17:29] <min|dvir|us> lightdm works just fine, but as soon as I log in, I can see the first "frame" of what I'm supposed to see, and my mouse moves, but nothing else updates.
[17:29] <min|dvir|us> I just see a static picture of an old render with a moving mouse.
[17:29] <min|dvir|us> And when I move my mouse I can see the cursor responding to text fields and stuff.
[17:32] <min|dvir|us> Happened right after I updated to Raring.
[17:33] <min|dvir|us> Plus I see crazy messages in /var/log/X11.
[17:38] <bjsnider> which driver?
[17:38] <bjsnider> which card?
[17:54] <min|dvir|us> bjsnider: not sure what driver.
[17:54] <min|dvir|us> It's integrated graphics for a Sandy Bridge.
[17:54] <min|dvir|us> Intel HD 3000 I believe.
[17:55] <bjsnider> highly unlikely there's anything wrong with that
[18:02] <min|dvir|us> bjsnider: well, there's definitely something wrong with my computer.
[18:02] <min|dvir|us> Right now I'm on fbdev and it works fine.
[18:02] <min|dvir|us> (Except for that it's not outputting for two monitors.)
[18:02] <min|dvir|us> (And it's not hwaccel.)
[18:03] <bjsnider> what crazy messages?
[18:06] <min|dvir|us> bjsnider: https://gist.github.com/dan-transparensee/9358f9931a8c1298c14d
[18:06] <min|dvir|us> That is the result of a grep so let me know if you want more.
[18:07] <min|dvir|us> Those are two separate bootup attempts. I'm not sure why one says permission denied but I think that was me trying to run startx.
[18:08] <bjsnider> sounds like maybe the wrong kernel is being booted
[18:09] <min|dvir|us> That sounds like a very reasonable explanation. Which kernel should I boot/how do I find out?
[18:09] <bjsnider> i'm not sure which one is current
[18:11] <min|dvir|us> I'm just booting from the first menu item in GRUB.
[18:13] <min|dvir|us> I'll be right back, trying to boot from an old kernel.
[18:17] <lunitik> I noticed gksu is no longer being used in Ubuntu, what is doing authentication now in its place?
[18:21] <lunitik> It is using PolicyKit's pkexec, in case anyone is wondering.
[18:25] <Walther> Hello folks! I just installed fglrx but I'm getting a watermark on my screen "Unsupported Hardware"
[18:25] <Walther> I have a Radeon HD 7970
[18:25] <lunitik> Walther: You really shouldn't run development versions of Ubuntu on proprietary drivers
[18:27] <Walther> well, sucks to be me but I am :P What to do next - the Catalyst version seems a bit low (12.9) compared to the newest available one
[18:28] <Walther> Newest available one on site seems to be 13.1
[18:30] <Walther> hmm. I could of course do a complete clean install of 12.10 but that would not be preferrable
[18:31] <Walther> But yeah, umm, is 7970 supposed to be supported - and if, on which driver version?
[19:01] <Walther> How to get rid of the watermart "Unsupported Hardware" when using a HD 7970 gpu?
[19:06] <cjohnston> I know that memtest86+ had a bug causing bad results on test 7... I'm running a raring daily from last week, so in theory the bug fix should be in it.. I'm still getting errors (current count 754) on test 7... what is the chance this is still that bug vs bad memory?
[19:27] <Guest41815> bjsnider: this is min|dvir|us... changed nothing.
[19:28] <Guest41815> Only using xorg.conf.failsafe works.
[19:38] <ironhalik> Walther: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25519/how-to-remove-amd-unsupported-hardware-without-reinstalling-the-driver
[19:39] <ironhalik> Walther: http://askubuntu.com/questions/206288/how-can-i-get-the-amd-driver-running-on-ubuntu-12-10-amd-radeon-hd-7310-amd-vi
[19:39] <ironhalik> this also, but I did not try this one - seems more elegant IMHO
[19:39] <ironhalik> though
[20:07] <bjsnider> Guest41815, this message from ubuntu's intel maintainer: make sure he updates to kernel -13.23 first
[21:45] <min|dvir|us> bjsnider: thanks, will try.
[23:27] <fcuk112> anyone u/g to 13.04 yet?  any issues?
[23:29] <k1l_> quite stable in my view. some issue now and then but nothing dramatic
[23:30] <fcuk112> cool thx
[23:30] <Thete> Is there a way to update to nightly from 12.10?


[13:04] <paride> smoser, hi, I prepared https://github.com/canonical/cloud-utils/pull/16 mainly to upload the "bad variable use" fix
[13:08] <paride> smoser, would you have time to review/sponsor?
[13:39] <catphish> is there any documentation / tutorial anywhere on how a datasource should respond? i'm writing one, but i feel like i'm having to employ rather a lot of guesswork to know what methods to implement and what they should return
[13:39] <smoser> paride: i ack'd you want me to sponsor too.i can
[13:40] <paride> smoser, thanks, just let me fix the missing ] in d/changelog
[13:41] <paride> [Scott Moser
[13:42] <paride> that's because I added the entry manually because log2dch ignored it
[13:42] <smoser> right. i'm fine to not receive credit.
[13:43] <smoser> paride: go ahead, make change, force push, i'll grab
[13:43] <paride> force pushed
[13:43] <paride> *pushed
[13:44] <paride> will merge after CI finishes
[13:45] <paride> the "Whitespace cleanups" entry was not added by new-upstream-snapshot because log2dch ignores the github merge commits
[13:45] <paride> since https://github.com/canonical/uss-tableflip/commit/b88bae402a7a4dc63bb7a41bfa4feff4bb207839
[13:46] <paride> but as log2dch runs `git log --first-parent` we end with no trace of the merged branch
[13:47] <paride> if I'm not mistaken. Want to check with blackboxsw
[13:54] <smoser> paride: c-i is done. https://github.com/canonical/cloud-utils/pull/16
[13:54] <smoser> land and i'll upload.
[13:54] <paride> smoser, landed
[13:54] <smoser> paride: is there somethign that tags ?
[13:58] <paride> smoser, tag pushed
[14:04] <smoser> paride: i uploaded... but dont have a email from the archive yet.
[14:06] <paride> well it's here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+queue?queue_state=1
[14:06] <smoser> oh irght. it has to be accepted.
[14:06] <smoser> emails come on accept.


[01:25] <Bob___> Hi
[01:30] <TheFakeazneD525> what a nice person :)
[01:51] <davls82_> i go to sleep
[01:51] <TheFakeazneD525> Uh ok
[05:27] <nandhu> is there any windo manager which supports drag and drop ?
[05:53] <nandhu> i am trying to update a config file with IP address. How can i pass  a variable in sed
[05:53] <nandhu> sed -i '/ec2_url=/c\ec2_url=http://"{$IP}"/services/Cloud' $Tempest_Conf
[05:54] <nandhu> here its getting updated with "{$IP}" and not with the actual variable
[05:56] <SporkWitch> nandhu: are those backticks or single quotes?
[05:56] <SporkWitch> nandhu: i can't remember what does what, but it makes a difference for how control chars and variables are handled
[05:57] <nandhu> i used double coats
[05:58] <nandhu> inside single quotes
[05:59] <SporkWitch> use backticks
[05:59] <SporkWitch> single quotes prevent variable expansion
[05:59] <SporkWitch> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/29980/whats-the-difference-between-single-and-double-quotes-in-the-bash-shell/
[05:59] <anders____> kubuntu requires a restart after updates?!
[06:00] <nandhu> thanks let me gothrough
[06:01] <SporkWitch> anders: you can usually get away with simply logging out and back in; it's not so much that a restart is REQUIRED, so much as that it's the easiest way to make sure everything starts over clean
[07:44] <fuorviatos_> hey there
[07:45] <fuorviatos_> anybody have idea how to disable the illiminating windows edge in KDE when desktop effects are active?
[07:49] <Papamatti> fuorviatos_: You can enable and disable the shadow and glowing in the window decorations
[07:49] <Papamatti> fuorviatos_: Systemsetting
[07:54] <fuorviatos_> Papamatti: thanks
[08:44] <obert> can i browse and edit/move files located in a laptop with windows OS via kubuntu?
[08:45] <lordievader> obert: I'm sorry what?
[08:45] <lordievader> Do you mean if you can access your files on a Windows partition? Then yes.
[08:45] <obert> lordievader: need to move files located in a tablet with windows into a linux hd
[08:46] <lordievader> obert: The tablet part might make it difficult. But you can move things off of a ntfs partition.
[08:46] <obert> how
[08:46] <obert> please
[08:47] <lordievader> obert: Mount the ntfs partition and copy/move your files.
[08:47] <obert> dolphin->Network?
[08:47] <obert> mount dev/what, sorry?
[08:48] <lordievader> As I said the tablet part may make it difficult. Since I do not have a Windows tablet I do not know if you can mount its partitions.
[08:48] <lordievader> Can the tablet access samba shares?
[08:49] <obert> dunnno
[08:49] <lordievader> That is perhaps easier. Setup a samba share on your Kubuntu box and let the tablet copy its files from there.
[08:50] <obert> Windows shared is not the same thing, correct?
[08:52] <obert> i will google something :) thank you for now
[08:52] <lordievader> No idea. As I said I have no experience with Windows tablets ;)
[08:53] <obert> and I have no experience with Samba :)
[09:00] <yofel> obert: did you try to connect the tablet to the PC over USB? At least Android tablets then allow file access over MTP (I would hope that windows does the same)
[09:06] <obert> yofel: no i did't
[09:07] <obert> yofel: thank you for the tip
[09:28] <lattice> hello?
[09:29] <lattice> dragon player and vlc player cannot play the video from samba share
[09:29] <lattice> any suggestions ?
[09:44] <keithzg> You could try mounting the share rather than using it via KIO slave.
[09:47] <lattice> anyone here ?
[11:02] <qtcc> euhfdfsf
[11:02] <qtcc> there is anyone
[11:02] <qtcc> ok
[12:46] <davls82> Hi all
[12:55] <davls82> anybody there
[13:01] <lordievader> o/
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Hiya folks
[14:26] <sandman13> what is the KDE version in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS? with and without using PPAs?
[14:29] <MoonUnit`> KDE 4.8.2 according to distrowatch, http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=07220
[14:30] <lordievader> !info kde-workspace precise
[14:30] <BluesKaj> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-12.04.5
[14:32] <sandman13> MoonUnit`: using PPAs?
[14:33] <MoonUnit`> looks like 4.13.2
[14:33] <MoonUnit`> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports?field.series_filter=precise
[14:35] <sandman13> interesting
[14:37] <sandman13> MoonUnit`: PPAs are different from Backports right?
[14:37] <lordievader> sandman13: The Kubuntu backports is a ppa.
[14:37] <MoonUnit`> backports is a ppa, ppa just means personal package archive.
[14:39] <sandman13> are PPA discouraged? I have read it that it is not advised to use PPAs
[14:39] <MoonUnit`> it means trusting 3rd party executables
[14:40] <lordievader> In general they are somewhat discouraged. However the Kubuntu backports come from the Kubuntu team.
[14:42] <sandman13> lordievader: that means if I use other *buntus except Kubuntu PPAs are discouraged but since Kubuntu backports come from Kubuntu team, it is safe to use?
[14:43] <lordievader> sandman13: PPA's are used at your own risk. The question is do you trust the author. In case of the backports this is the Kubuntu team. However for other ppa it could be a random person from the internet.
[14:46] <sandman13> lordievader: I would like to get somewhat newer KDE but I am okay with other packages
[14:46] <MoonUnit`> some makers of certain software suggest ppa to add to get latest versions, in that case it's not much different from downloading an exe file from their site if you were using windows.
[14:50] <sandman13> PPAs (if supported by official team) are wonderful especially for a Debian user who is longing to get a new version of DE :)
[14:52] <obert> hm
[14:52] <lordievader> sandman13: Are you using Debian?
[14:52] <sandman13> lordievader: yes, it was my first distro using it for 4 months now
[14:53] <lordievader> sandman13: Debian is not supported here. See #debian for that.
[14:53] <sandman13> lordievader: I know but I am asking how Kubuntu works not Debian
[14:55] <sandman13> and I like the way in which Kubuntu team supports the new version of KDE
[14:55] <sandman13> lordievader: is there a minimal iso or net install image of Kubuntu?
[14:55] <lordievader> sandman13: Yes.
[14:56] <sandman13> lordievader: can you link me to it? I have an iso but that is of Ubuntu
[14:57] <lordievader> sandman13: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:57] <sandman13> lordievader: thanks
[15:25] <hemanta> any one knows how to solve this problem
[15:25] <hemanta> Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-language.py", line 486, in on_release_notes_link     self.openURL(url)   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-language.py", line 507, in openURL     if os.direxists("/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings"): AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'direxists'
[15:25] <hemanta> hi
[15:25] <hemanta> hi
[15:27] <hemanta> anyone knows how to solve installer crash problem on kubuntu
[15:28] <hemanta> hi
[15:28] <BluesKaj> hemanta, try no acpi in the options
[15:29] <hemanta> i was trying to install kubuntu
[15:29] <hemanta> first it says installer crashed try again
[15:30] <lordievader> hemanta: What version of Kubuntu are you trying to install?
[15:30] <hemanta> it's 14.04
[15:30] <hemanta> it was working fine on my pc
[15:30] <lordievader> hemanta: Did you check the md5 sum?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> hemanta, at the start page choose no acpi the options before you choose to install
[15:31] <lordievader> BluesKaj: This is a python error, has nothing to do with acpi.
[15:31] <BluesKaj> in the options...believe it's f6
[15:31] <hemanta> so installer problem should go with that
[15:33] <BluesKaj> ok , didn't see the error post
[15:34] <hemanta> Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-language.py", line 486, in on_release_notes_link     self.openURL(url)   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-language.py", line 507, in openURL     if os.direxists("/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings"): AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'direxists'
[15:34] <BluesKaj> when someone says hi , i assume that's the first entry]
[15:34] <lordievader> hemanta: So, did you check the md5sum?
[15:35] <hemanta> yes
[15:35] <hemanta> it was working fine for me
[15:35] <lordievader> hemanta: Is this a live-cd or a live-usb?
[15:36] <hemanta> live usb
[15:36] <lordievader> hemanta: "It was working fine" what was working?
[15:37] <hemanta> i installed my system from the same usb
[15:37] <hemanta> i was using for few days
[15:37] <hemanta> i was trying to remove akondi
[15:37] <hemanta> then it's gone
[15:38] <hemanta> so i have to reinstall it again
[15:38] <lordievader> hemanta: "Then it's gone" what is it?
[15:38] <hemanta> unknowingly i removed something
[15:39] <lordievader> hemanta: Boot into the recoverymode and reinstall the 'kubuntu-desktop' package.
[15:39] <hemanta> that's why it was not working correctly
[15:40] <hemanta> but i have formated root drive
[15:40] <lordievader> ...
[15:41] <lordievader> hemanta: Make another live-usb with unetbootin, unetbootin usually works.
[15:41] <hemanta> is there any other way to fix this?
[15:42] <lordievader> Don't think so.
[15:43] <hemanta> okay..........
[15:43] <hemanta> i don't know but there is a option on unetbootin
[15:43] <hemanta> what if i extrace iso on hard drive insted of usb
[15:44] <hemanta> what you think?
[15:44] <lordievader> hemanta: Run the program and create a new live-usb. That is the easiest way.
[15:45] <Leon> Good morning
[15:45] <lordievader> o/
[15:45] <Leon> I need some of help
[15:45] <lordievader> !ask | Leon
[15:47] <Guest79481> I am trying to custonmize my kubuntu and I have an error, when I try to change for example the desktop theme I got this mistake: ¨ Loading of providers from file http://download.kde.org/ocs/provider.xml¨ failed
[15:47] <Guest79481> But, if I run kdesudo the problem not appears but the effects don´t take effect
[15:48] <Guest79481> What can I do?
[15:50] <Guest79481> somebody?
[15:52] <Guest79481> ?????
[15:52] <Guest79481> I am so mmotivate to make a tuning to my system
[15:53] <BluesKaj> Guest79481, not all themes that one downloads work
[15:54] <sgclark> Guest79481 try the suggestions in this thread: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=119031
[15:54] <Guest79481> The problem is that when I use ¨get new stuff¨ the window don´t load themes
[16:01] <Guest79481> I have finishe to follow the thread but the problem resist
[16:10] <jatin> hello there
[16:15] <cjwelborn> I was just looking at Plasma 5 and it looks really cool. I don't want to use an unstable version, so I was wondering what version of Kubuntu might get this, or whether it will be made available to current versions. I'm on 14.04. Where can I get that information?
[16:18] <cjwelborn> Nevermind I found it. Looks like 14.10 has a 'preview' of plasma 5 available.
[16:24] <cjwelborn> 14.10 is in beta, and it's possible to use Plasma 5 with it, but as far as 'stable' I will have to wait.
[16:29] <lordievader> cjwelborn: Somewhere in 15.x or 16.x.
[16:30] <cjwelborn> lordievader: thanks, I actually never found my definitive answer. That helps.
[21:53] <sudeep> Hi
[22:05]  * RedDeath is AFK, Entertaining some Hookers —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n—
[22:05] <TheFakeazneD525> ._.
[22:07]  * RedDeath is back from Entertaining some Hookers. I was gone for 1min —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n—
[22:07] <TheFakeazneD525> ....
[23:11] <sysop2> hi guys!
[23:13] <sysop2> I was wondering if you could tell me if 14.04 uses plymouth by default?
[23:13] <valorie> I believe so, yes
[23:14] <sysop2> cool thanks.  I am trying to take a bunch of frames and turn them into a boot theme  just was wondering which way I should try first.  any tips would be greately appreciated .
[23:15] <sysop2> an animated boot  theme I meant to say
[23:18] <sysop2> so whats the difference between ksplash and plymouth?
[23:18] <valorie> uh, beyond my knowledge, I'm afraid
[23:18] <sysop2> did plymouth just replace ksplash?
[23:18] <sysop2> oh thanks anyway.
[23:18] <valorie> plymouth is standard for *buntu
[23:23] <TheFakeazneD525> KSplash is when you log in
[23:24] <TheFakeazneD525> Plymouth is boot up
[23:24] <sysop2> cool thanks.
[23:24] <sysop2> any idea which is easier to create an animated theme in?
[23:25]  * TheFakeazneD525 shrugs
[23:25] <sysop2> thanks anyway will keep googling around at least I know what to look for now thanks.
[23:56] <Fritigern> MANY years ago, in Windows, i had this tool in which i would do a traceroute, and it would plot all the nodes it enountered on a map of the world. I loved that feature. does anyone know if a similar tool exists in Linux?


[16:04] <lotuspsychje> !19.04
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> hggdh: should be working here?
[16:07] <hggdh> that's... interesting
[16:08] <hggdh> !19.04
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> tnx hggdh
[16:09] <hggdh> lotuspsychje: ^ there. I think it was like a vaccine, some take, some need another shot
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> maybe also add support in #ubuntu+1 ?
[16:09] <hggdh> !support
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> if we need to redirect users to here
[16:10] <hggdh> it is there already
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> !19.04
[16:11] <hggdh> unless I am (at it seems to be usual) missing something...
[16:11] <hggdh> s/at/as/
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> hggdh: i mean if someone asks in #ubuntu for some 19.04 support, we link him !19.04
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> he needs to know the right channel
[16:11] <hggdh> yes, it will work on #u
[16:11] <hggdh> same bot (ubottu)
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> different output in the 2 channels?
[16:14] <hggdh> lotuspsychje: what do you mean?
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> i think we misunderstand each other
[16:14] <hggdh> agree :-)
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> the trigger needs to point to this channel right?
[16:15] <hggdh> fo 19.04?
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[16:15] <hggdh> that would be !ubuntu+1
[16:16] <hggdh> !ubuntu+1
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> ah
[16:16] <hggdh> the yy.mm entry only provides a bit of detail about the specific entry
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> allright, didnt know the ubuntu+1 one
[16:17] <hggdh> np
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> tnx for edit
[16:17] <hggdh> you are very welcome :-)