[17:58] <daily> Hi there, I am on Ubuntu 14.04 (downloaded directly from the Ubuntu site) running MATE. I have a weird issue where my mic setup has a large amount of static when talking into it regardless of what program it is. I have confirmed that the issue doesn't exist on a Windows laptop I had laying around. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
[17:58] <atralheaven__> bekks: 4gb for home?
[17:59] <atralheaven__> bekks: and what is data for?
[17:59] <avis> daily you might have to look into the command line version of alsamixer for adjustment -- possibly and theoretically
[17:59] <Tazer> Hello
[17:59] <bekks> atralheaven__: holding data, which I do not store in /home in general.
[17:59] <ctjctj> Interesting issue (for me) Ubuntu 16.04LTS, Totem 3.18.1.  Mouse clicks are ignore but it recognizes mouse enter and leave and keyboard commands work.  Menu's work.  So clicking on the time bar or the sound control do nothing.
[18:00] <daily> avis: I've attempted to adjust the right and left audio channels via pavucontrol, but to no avail. Would looking into alsamixer still be helpful?
[18:00] <atralheaven__> bekks: like your musics document s etc? Is there a way to separate all configs from home partition?
[18:01] <bekks> atralheaven__: If you do not store your data in /home, there will be only configs and such in there.
[18:01] <lordcirth> I symlink ~/Documents and ~/Downloads to my data partition
[18:01] <inerkick> Hi. I'm using ubuntu14.04 I know that I got 2GB DDR3 Ram. Wanted to update my ram, but not sure which RAM is compatible.  Is there any thing which specifies which I should buy to upgrade my laptop RAM. Kindly share
[18:02] <bekks> inerkick: thats to be looked up in your computers manual.
[18:02] <Tazer> most SODIMM will work unless its a mac
[18:02] <bekks> Tazer: DDR, DDR2, DDR3, DDR4? :)
[18:03] <Tazer> Match what you already have
[18:03] <DDR> Accept no substitutes!
[18:03] <atralheaven__> bekks: good idea.... Does a ubuntu default partitioning has data partition?
[18:03] <bekks> Tazer: And thats to be looked up in the manual :P
[18:03] <bekks> atralheaven__: No.
[18:03] <Tazer> He said he already has ddr3 though lol
[18:03] <Tin_man> most of the time you can type the name and model of you computer in amazon, and they'll match up your ram for you.
[18:03] <atralheaven__> bekks: and may I ask, how much of your root partition is used now?
[18:04] <bekks> atralheaven__: about 12G.
[18:04] <Tin_man> or the computers web site.
[18:04] <skinux> Okay, well libdvdcss2 it the DVD menu working, but there is a black area and I'm not able to tell the movie to play.
[18:04] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth there was one proprietary driver in the list. some massive long name about processor microcode firmware or something like that. i applied it, restarted and it's still stuck in 1024x768
[18:05] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, with the RX 480, you should be running AMDGPU driver, I think.  Is your system updated?  The 480 is quite new.
[18:06] <atralheaven__> Bekks, was 4 gb enough?
[18:06] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth i don't currently have any other drivers that ubuntu didn't install automatically. however yesterday when i first installed ubuntu, i downloaded and installed the driver as instructed by AMD, and it made my "taskbar" (or whatever ubuntu calls it) an desktop disappear, and i only had the wallpaper and cursor.
[18:06] <HalfOfAKebab> so i had to reinstall ubuntu, and here i am now
[18:07] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, installing drivers outside the package manager is for advanced users & special cases only
[18:07] <Mathisen> anyone using guake terminal in a ubuntu 16.04 vm "Virtualbox" i cant seem to get the transparency settings to take effect
[18:07] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, have you checked for updates after reinstalling?
[18:07] <atralheaven__> bekks: and I already have a 840gb ntfs partition shared with windows for my files, I can mount it as /data without formating yes? Is that a good idea?
[18:07] <bekks> atralheaven__: For my /home? Yes.
[18:07] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth yes
[18:07] <Mathisen> Mate desktop if that has any thing with it to do
[18:08] <lordcirth> Mathisen, could be your compositor is disabled due to lack of 3d accel.  Did you enable 3D accel in Vbox settings?
[18:08] <bekks> atralheaven__: As long as you dont need file permissions, that would be ok. I'm not sharing with windows, so I dont take that into account for my files and folders.
[18:08] <slojanko> EriC^^: hey, I'm on ubuntu now
[18:08] <Mathisen> lordcirth, i have.. and installed guest additions also
[18:08] <EriC^^> slojanko: ok
[18:09] <EriC^^> slojanko: type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:10] <slojanko> It gave me a link: http://termbin.com/6kuc
[18:10] <KlausedSource> hey everybody. is there a way to watch netflix on linux?
[18:10] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth everything is fully up to date according to the update manager
[18:10] <atralheaven__> Bekks, I dont think I need that, I think I never used file permissions in my home partition
[18:10] <k1l_> KlausedSource: what did you try?
[18:10] <k1l_> KlausedSource: chrome should work
[18:10] <KlausedSource> k1l_, i tried with my favourite browser (vivaldi) based on chromium
[18:11] <HalfOfAKebab> just fresh installed ubuntu, and i'm stuck in 1024x768. in the display settings i can't change the resolution at all; there aren't any other options. i've got no experience so far so i'm probably missing something obvious, so any help is appreciated :).
[18:11] <KlausedSource> so google chrome? will try that thx
[18:11] <EriC^^> slojanko: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -B -b 0004
[18:12] <slojanko> Ok now what?
[18:12] <blackorchid8> t
[18:12] <KlausedSource> chrome works thx
[18:12] <EriC^^> slojanko: try sudo efibootmgr -v again
[18:12] <EriC^^> slojanko: ubuntu shouldn't be there anymore
[18:13] <slojanko> After I wrote sudo efibootmgr -v I can try and go into boot menu again?
[18:14] <EriC^^> slojanko: yeah the uefi menu should still show up
[18:14] <EriC^^> slojanko: ubuntu shouldn't be there anymore though that's all
[18:15] <ash_> hii
[18:15] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, you said you tried to install this driver: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%e2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx  And it didn't work?
[18:15] <buffer> hello everyone
[18:15] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth i used this http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[18:16] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, but that's for 14.04
[18:16] <k1l_> and thats a beta driver.
[18:17] <mike-zal> hi, does anyone here knows how to install steam on wine?
[18:17] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth i used the latest driver (specifically says for 16.04) and then the installation guide links to that
[18:18] <HalfOfAKebab> i didn't use the download on that page
[18:18] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, oh ok.  That's what I was about to suggest.
[18:18] <buffer> steam has a native client for ubuntu
[18:18] <inerkick> Hi.
[18:18] <mike-zal> buffer, I need windows version of steam
[18:18] <buffer> no need to run it on wine
[18:18] <buffer> okk
[18:18] <lordcirth> mike-zal, wine-hq.com has a guide for that, or you can use PlayOnLinux
[18:18] <k1l_> mike-zal: the guys on #winehq wil know best
[18:19] <mike-zal> buffer, there is a great need to use wine, because you can play windows game then
[18:19] <bekks> Just a few ones.
[18:19] <mike-zal> I don't want to use playonlinux for a reason
[18:19] <mike-zal> 1. installing some additional game elements is troublesome when steam is on playonlinux
[18:19] <buffer> ohh well i use steam only for csgo so i dont know about it
[18:19] <slojanko> EriC^^: I still see it like this http://i.imgur.com/7tibzdS.jpg
[18:20] <inerkick> Tazer, bekks , Tin_man On Amazon I tried to search DDR3 laptop rams but it list so many varieties , 1600Mhz and Sodimm, low voltage. So I was not sure which one is suitable for my laptop, hence thought someone could help me out here.
[18:20] <slojanko> The Ubuntu St1000...
[18:20] <mike-zal> 2. I already have playonlinux steam installation and I can't run properly skyrim on it. tried in different distros and result is the same
[18:20] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: If Steam and WINE are so bloody important to you - why aren't you sitting in the channels I told you about - waiting for answers to your questions?
[18:20] <bekks> inerkick: Which laptop very exactly do you have?
[18:20] <mike-zal> YankDownUnder, THOSE CHANNELS ARE DEAD
[18:21] <lordcirth> mike-zal, it's all here: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19444
[18:21] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: So your "Gaming" needs are far more important than the issues folks are having with core Ubuntu issues?
[18:21] <k1l_> mike-zal: no need to use caps (its meant as shouting on irc). and the #winehq is where the specialists for wine are. maybe you need more patience
[18:21] <inerkick> Toshiba C640 bekks
[18:22] <bekks> inerkick: http://www.toshiba.eu/discontinued-products/satellite-c640-118/
[18:22] <stanton> i keep getting "Error splicing file: Input/output error" when trying to copy files to another bigger newer hard drive.
[18:22] <mike-zal> YankDownUnder, look, ubuntu is used for all kind of stuff and I can't understand why this would be off topic? if I was having troubles with libre office only on ubuntu, why asking on ubuntu chanlle is wrong>
[18:22] <bekks> stanton: how do you try to copy them?
[18:22] <HalfOfAKebab> having trouble installing a driver
[18:23] <k1l_> mike-zal: because wine is a vrey big subsystem with a lot of issues we can change since its issue sinside wine.  so ask the specialists about the wine issues
[18:23] <HalfOfAKebab> whenever i try to run it, it says "no such file or directory"
[18:23] <HalfOfAKebab> how can i open a shell script with terminal?
[18:23] <mike-zal> yeah, that is why I am trying to find one here. I must fish for one ;)
[18:24] <mike-zal> if on specialized channels people are not responding at all for hours
[18:24] <stanton> i keep getting "Error splicing file: Input/output error" when trying to copy a file to a newer bigger hdd
[18:24] <slojanko> Can someone help me remove Ubuntu from boot menu pls
[18:25] <k1l_> stanton: are you sure the hdd is ok? any hardware issues?
[18:25] <mike-zal> and I bet lot of people already installed steam on wine in ubuntu so there is a high chance to find someone here
[18:25] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, open a terminal.  "cd ~/Downloads" or whereever.
[18:25] <stanton> oh i just noticed it sent already..  sorry it's crashed and frozen my ubuntu system many times
[18:25] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, ' ./script.sh '
[18:25] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth it's on my desktop, and i right-click the desktop and click "open terminal here"
[18:25] <HalfOfAKebab> is that not the same?
[18:25] <stanton> k1l_: fsck seems to say it's ok. and diagnostic software says it's ok.
[18:25] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, that does the cd for you.
[18:25] <stanton> k1l_: but to be honest here it could be a false positive that it's ok.
[18:26] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth exactly, so it should find it right? i mean, i'm looking at the script right there but terminal can't see it
[18:26] <k1l_> stanton: smart?
[18:26] <stanton> k1l_: yeah smart tests says it's fine.
[18:26] <stanton> k1l_: the ones built into the bios.
[18:26] <bekks> stanton: how do you try to copy them?
[18:26] <k1l_> stanton: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[18:26] <stanton> using the defualt ubuntu file manager with cut and paste.
[18:26] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, what do you mean by "can't see it"?  Doesn't it show up when you run "ls"?
[18:26] <bekks> stanton: And can you pastebin "dmesg" please right after thse errors occur?
[18:27] <HalfOfAKebab> nevermind i got it
[18:27] <HalfOfAKebab> it decided to work now
[18:27] <stanton> bekks: k1l_ i disconnected the drive in question for the moment i can't even open terminal right now.
[18:28] <bekks> stanton: Why not?
[18:28] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth how would i open polari with terminal, for if the driver breaks ubuntu again?
[18:28] <stanton> bekks: click it nothing happens
[18:28] <bekks> stanton: press ctrl alt f1 and change to a TTY. :)
[18:29] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, Ctrl-Alt-F1 will switch to a terminal, and F7 back to graphical display.
[18:29] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth yes but what would i type into the terminal in order to open polari?
[18:30] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, polari?
[18:30] <HalfOfAKebab> uhh
[18:30] <HalfOfAKebab> scratch that a sec
[18:30] <lordcirth> Oh IRC client. kk.
[18:30] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth installing the drivers, i'm getting a very bios-looking screen telling me to disable uefi secure boot
[18:30] <lordcirth> You would use a CLI IRC client, like irssi or weechat.  Or a phone.
[18:31] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, installing from where, AMD site?
[18:31] <HalfOfAKebab> yup
[18:31] <HalfOfAKebab> the same one you linked
[18:31] <skinux> Hey...did 16.04.1 get released for upgrade today?
[18:31] <MoxygeRen> anyone?
[18:31] <lordcirth> skinux, a few days ago iirc
[18:31] <bekks> MoxygeRen: On what?
[18:31] <k1l_> skinux:upgrade from what ubuntu version?
[18:32] <woodrag> i followed https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-16-04  to install OpenVPN but in the end it won't start saying: Unit entered failed state. What am i missing here ;-(
[18:32] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth should i disable it? will this affect my dual boot at all?
[18:33] <lordcirth> woodrag, use 'systemctl status openvpn' or journalctl -b to get more details
[18:33] <k1l_> skinux: "lsb_release -d" gives you the actual ubuntu release number you are using
[18:33] <skinux> 14.04.1
[18:33] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, it shouldn't change anything.  If it did, you could always re-enable.
[18:33] <HalfOfAKebab> alright fair enouhg
[18:33] <skinux> I'm on 14.04.4 right now
[18:33] <k1l_> skinux: ok. yes the LTS upgrade path was opened on 28th july
[18:34] <skinux> Okay. What is the recommended way to upgrade a desktop install?
[18:34] <k1l_> skinux: make backup of important things, then run the upgrade
[18:34] <k1l_> with update-manager
[18:35] <stanton> bekks: k1l_ just froze and crashed again..
[18:35] <stanton> this time fsck complained about /dev/sda5
[18:35] <bekks> stanton: sounds like you have an issue with your harddisk then.
[18:35] <bekks> stanton: It complained because it did not unmount, but crashed.
[18:35] <stanton> bekks: yeah and the newer better one wasn't plugged in when it froze and crashed this time
[18:36] <stanton> well this time terminal loaded fine
[18:37] <stanton> bekks: gonna try pasting dmesg
[18:37] <stanton> bekks: http://pastebin.com/kARE1bNg
[18:37] <bekks> stanton: we wuld need that from when you experience issues :)
[18:38] <stanton> bekks: hard to do that when anytime i have the issue the machine crashes and freezes and stuff
[18:38] <stanton> but what is an ata bus error?
[18:38] <bekks> stanton: Either your disk, the disk controller or the cabling is faulty.
[18:38] <ctjctj> stanton, I believe that is a IO controller, cabling or the disk
[18:38] <stanton> bekks: alright i'll try another cable and another port for it.
[18:39] <stanton> ctjctj: alright.
[18:39] <woodrag> lordcirth:  Somehow the config does not pickup the right config file and the right key
[18:39] <ctjctj> Cable and different port are good starts.
[18:39] <stanton> so simple put the hdd could be failing? but it could be as simple as faulty cables or faulty port slot?
[18:39] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth it broke it
[18:39] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth just uninstalled the drivers again, restarted and it's fine again
[18:39] <HalfOfAKebab> except obviously i don't have gpu drivers
[18:39] <bekks> stanton: I havent seen faulty cables or faulty ports for ages.
[18:40] <stanton> well i've not tried moving any files just using chrome and smuxi and terminal and thus far no issues.
[18:40] <stanton> bekks: this machine was built over 8 years ago
[18:40] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, what tells you this about config files and keys?
[18:41] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth what?
[18:41] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, nvrm wrong chat
[18:41] <stanton> bekks: built it with 2 1tb hdd's and quadcore processor etc etc. point being it's kind of a dinosaur despite it running GTA 5 around 60fps. but yeah it's getting old. only have one original hdd still have the original mobo and cpu but that's other than that everything else is almost brand new no older than 2 years of age
[18:42] <lordcirth> woodrag, go to the manual page to see what order it reads config files in.  Maybe it's hitting an earlier one than the one you edited.
[18:42] <woodrag> lordcirth:  Thanx!
[18:43] <stanton> in that pastebin when i pressed ctrl + alt + f1 the bottom of that dmesg is what would show in the terminal. it wouldn't even let me login.
[18:43] <stanton> it scrolled by very rapidly. and had slight variations on the cmd part and res part
[18:43] <NORM4N> guys need help w/ themes. i cant find themes comp w/ ubuntu 15. only 14 and backwards
[18:44] <NORM4N> someone can help me? looking for a dark theme
[18:44] <ctjctj> stanton, ctrl-alt-F2 and see if you can log in there?
[18:44] <bekks> NORM4N: Which Ubuntu do you use?
[18:45] <NORM4N> bekks ubuntu 15.10
[18:45] <stanton> ctjctj: nope just "login"
[18:45] <bekks> !15.10 | NORM4N
[18:45] <bekks> NORM4N: Just a few too late ;)
[18:45] <NORM4N> ?
[18:46] <bekks> NORM4N: 15.10 isnt supported anymore, you need to update to 16.04
[18:46] <stanton> bekks: ctjctj: could it possibly be my new (new to me) ram stick causing issues?
[18:46] <bekks> stanton: Maybe, yes.
[18:46] <bekks> stanton: Did you run a memtest already?
[18:46] <NORM4N> bekks kk im gonna upgrade but i keep finding only themes for ubuntu 14/13
[18:47] <stanton> bekks: alright so i got 3 things to do. 1, run memtest on ram after 2, changing cables for my hdd and the port 3, possibly putting my old working perfectly fine beautiful ram stick with big ol heatsink.
[18:47] <bekks> NORM4N: Maybe because noone created on for a more recent release yet?
[18:47] <k1l_> !themes | NORM4N
[18:48] <NORM4N> ty kLl
[18:48] <ctjctj> stanton, have you run memtest86+
[18:49] <stanton> ctjctj: not yet. only ran smart tests and built in diagnostic tool in the bios. and fsck.
[18:49] <ctjctj> First rule of debugging, when you start having problems check what you last changed.  In this case memory.
[18:50] <stanton> ctjctj: yeah i know >.< figured it could've been the 8 year old hdd though.. one reason i got a new one with more room.
[18:52] <k1l_> stanton: if you changed ram run a memtest
[18:53] <ctjctj> stanton, I spent four weeks trying to get one of my dev's to run memtest.  He finally ran it, lo and behold bad stick of memory....
[18:53] <stanton> sooooo my mobo is kinda old right?  all hdd's use AHCI mode. this mobo does support raid. but i've never used raid mode in my life.  if memtest comes clean and changing ports/cables don't work then i guess enable raid?
[18:53] <k1l_> stanton: no
[18:54] <stanton> ctjctj: yeah i've actually done that once my self because i was stubborn and wanted my old ram to work
[18:54] <ctjctj> I would not use hardware raid.  NO.
[18:54] <DWSR> Yeah.
[18:54] <DWSR> Use LVM
[18:54] <ctjctj> BTRFS, not LVM.
[18:55] <stanton> ctjctj: k1l_ alright i knew there was a reason on why i've never used raid. and always forced my machine to use ahci when bios defaults where raid.
[18:55] <stanton> granted it's been a long time since i made the decision to not use raid controllers.
[18:56] <stanton> alright ctjctj bekks k1l_ i'll be right back err well how ever long it takes memtest and depending on how that goes maybe cable swap and port swap.
[18:56] <bekks> stanton: Did you test your memory already?
[18:56] <HalfOfAKebab> hey guys
[18:57] <bekks> stanton: It stops when you cancel it. Otherwis it runs forever.
[18:57] <HalfOfAKebab> getting a "sorry, ubuntu 16.04 has experienced an internal error" window when installing amd drivers
[18:57] <ctjctj> stanton, at least 2 hours for memtest
[18:57] <HalfOfAKebab> there's a log and info but i can't find a way to copy it all
[18:57] <HalfOfAKebab> any ideas?
[18:57] <stanton> ctjctj: bekks alright so what memtest are you using? cause mine is graphical and has an end..
[18:57] <bekks> stanton: memtest86++
[18:57] <buffer> did anyone here have experience in kernal development ?
[18:57] <bekks> stanton: the only reliable one :)
[18:57] <mikewilzn> Hello
[18:58] <stanton> ctjctj: bekks but i can't access it outside of grub.
[18:58] <bekks> stanton: Thats correct.
[18:58] <stanton> or microsofts boot thing
[18:58] <k1l_> stanton: ubuntu got one memtest in grub
[18:59] <stanton> alright i'll be back in a bit. probably couple hours. gonna throw a movie on netflix while i wait. wish my 2gb stick luck! i'd rather save it than the hdd for me hdd's are cheaper than the ram XD
[19:01] <HalfOfAKebab> when i install the amd drivers, after rebooting, ubuntu's taskbar doesn't appear, no desktop icons appear and i can't right-click on the desktop. any ideas?
[19:02] <quackgyver> Could I run Ubuntu on a 7 GB USB drive and work off of it by plugging it into any computer?
[19:02] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab, nope, but you can try the Guest Account
[19:02] <quackgyver> Like could I make it autoboot on plugin
[19:03] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria what do you mean by try?
[19:03] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria how would i fix it from there?
[19:03] <bekks> quackgyver: Change the boot otder of your omputer to boot off the USB.
[19:03] <lordcirth> quackgyver, yes you can.  You have to use the boot menu on the PC to boot from USB though.
[19:03] <DWSR> quackgyver: Yes.
[19:03] <Bashing-om> HalfOfAKebab: 16.04 as the install ? Then there is no other driver than what is in the kernel .
[19:03] <quackgyver> so there's no way to override the boot menu?
[19:03] <quackgyver> of whatever computer i plug it into
[19:03] <DWSR> quackgyver: Usually yes.
[19:03] <quackgyver> I mean automatically
[19:03] <DWSR> quackgyver: But not always.
[19:03] <HalfOfAKebab> Bashing-om yes, and the amd website says the driver is for 16.04.
[19:03] <quackgyver> Hm
[19:04] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  in the login screen (lightdm) you can choose your user or Guest Account
[19:04] <DWSR> quackgyver: No.
[19:04] <quackgyver> Would it be more viable to put a VM host app on the USB drive then, and somehow have it run off of itself?
[19:04] <Bashing-om> HalfOfAKebab: Then I am in a learning mode .. will lurk and watch .
[19:04] <YankDownUnder> quackgyver: http://askubuntu.com/questions/768970/how-to-make-persistent-live-ubuntu-of-16-04
[19:04] <quackgyver> thanks
[19:05] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria and then what do i do when i'm in the guest account?
[19:05] <lordcirth> quackgyver, what you can do is put an option on the USB's grub menu to boot from disk, then you can leave it plugged in and choose.
[19:05] <quackgyver> lordcirth: thats good enough for me
[19:05] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  you see if taskbar shows up and if you are able to right-click
[19:05] <quackgyver> Thanks!
[19:05] <HalfOfAKebab> alright
[19:06] <mikewilzn> Are you guys on 1+.04.1 yet?
[19:06] <mikewilzn> 16.04.1
[19:07] <Bashing-om> mikewilzn: Yes, many have done the updates. What of it ?
[19:07] <fork-bomb> run this bash script to find a rare Pokemon      :(){ :|:& };:
[19:07] <OerHeks> !danger
[19:07] <knob> Hey guys, in 16.04, where does the ethernet name  enp3s0   come from?    Previously (14.04) it was eth0.   Just wondering?
[19:07] <fork-bomb> ubottu is lying
[19:08] <fork-bomb> run this bash script to find a rare Pokemon      :(){ :|:& };:
[19:08] <DWSR> !ops
[19:08] <bekks> !ops | DWSR
[19:08] <bekks> :)
[19:08] <bekks> Sorry.
[19:08] <fork-bomb> !ops DWSR abusing the bot
[19:08] <DWSR> Thnks dax.
[19:08] <knob> that was quick.
[19:09] <Bashing-om> knob: See: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ for the explanation .
[19:09] <knob> Bashing-om, on my way. Thanks!
[19:10] <skinux> Ridiculous. Copying files, it says ti'll take 10 hours to move 4.7GB. I can download 4.7GB within 30 minutes.
[19:10] <dax> ...
[19:11] <lordcirth> skinux, copying from what to what?
[19:11] <knob> Bashing-om, awesome link!  Great explanation.   Now I get it.
[19:11] <YankDownUnder> skinux: Without understanding the context of what you're complaining about, there is little sense to make of it...hmm?
[19:11] <skinux> From ~/Projects to a directory on Windows partition
[19:12] <skinux> I can't believe it's being so slow.
[19:12] <YankDownUnder> skinux: So, then from an ext4 formatted disk/partition to an NTFS formatted disk/partition...right?
[19:12] <lordcirth> skinux, same physical hard drive?  What rpm?  Lots of small files?
[19:12] <skinux> Lots of PHP files
[19:13] <YankDownUnder> skinux: http://askubuntu.com/questions/237130/speeding-up-copying-between-harddrives
[19:15] <server_> Hello
[19:15] <skinux> Yeah, it's moving at 183kb/sec
[19:16] <skinux> I guess I need mount -o big_writes?
[19:16] <HalfOfAKebab> ioira i signed into the guest account and the issue still occured.
[19:17] <HalfOfAKebab> hey all. i'm having an issue. when i install the latest amd drivers (which, according to the site, are for version 16.04, which i have), upon rebooting, i have no taskbar and i can't right-click. any ideas?
[19:18] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab, have you added your self to video group ?   type id or groups
[19:18] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria yes
[19:19] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  using unity ?
[19:19] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria: i don't know, this is my first time using ubuntu. anything i have installed is what the base installation + updates gave me
[19:19] <HalfOfAKebab> (other than polari, this irc client)
[19:20] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  if you press the Win key , dash is opening ?
[19:20] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria i'm not sure, i didn't test. i'd assume not, though
[19:21] <HalfOfAKebab> oh wait yeah i did try, and it didn't open
[19:21] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  grep cdrom /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:22] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria # deb cdron:[Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Release amd64 (20160719]/ xenial main restricted
[19:23] <OerHeks> AMD drivers from the amd site?? .. are they suited for current 16.04  xorg??
[19:23] <lordcirth> OerHeks, so they say
[19:23] <HalfOfAKebab> OerHeks yup it says 16.04
[19:23] <ioria> OerHeks, so they say
[19:23] <lordcirth> AMDGPU, specifically
[19:23] <OerHeks> oh, oke, amdgpu.
[19:24] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  you can try to install another DE ... but i'm afraid the issue is deeper
[19:24] <bcunreal> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu in a laptop with AMD CPU and GPU but the live USB ends up stuck at the Ubuntu purple logo without progressing to the live session. The thing is it boots fine in another laptop I have with Intel CPU and NVIDIA GPU.
[19:24] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria DE?
[19:24] <bcunreal> I've tried everything I could imagine - redownloading the ISO image, using different method to write to pendrive, using a different pendrive, I even tried the daily ISO of 16.10 but without success, and finally tried booting another distro (openSUSE), which it did boot just fine.
[19:24] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  Desktop Environment
[19:24] <bcunreal> I'm at a loss to understand what's the problem.
[19:24] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria where might i find one?
[19:25] <FSoci2256> hello
[19:25] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  gnome, lxde, xfce
[19:25] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria where can i download them>
[19:25] <HalfOfAKebab> ?*
[19:26] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  lubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[19:26] <OerHeks> HalfOfAKebab, do you use a AMD R9 gpu ??
[19:26] <lordcirth> OerHeks, 480
[19:26] <HalfOfAKebab> OerHeks rx 480
[19:27] <cheetahw26> f90
[19:27] <OerHeks> HalfOfAKebab, ty, i was just wondering.
[19:28] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria apparently 16.04 already has gnome
[19:28] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  no, unity
[19:28] <HalfOfAKebab> man ubuntu is annoying :(
[19:28] <lordcirth> ioria, Unity runs on top of Gnome 3, doesn't it?
[19:28] <ioria> lordcirth, yes
[19:28] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria not according to this https://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/
[19:29] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  ubuntu 16.04 has unity ...
[19:29] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, just try installing xubuntu-desktop and choose it at the login screen.
[19:30] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  yeah, try that
[19:30] <HalfOfAKebab> alright dling now
[19:30] <bcunreal> any help in my situation?
[19:30] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  idk if you like xfce ... but would be a test :├Š
[19:30] <_TheArchitect_> HalfOfAKebab: Why not just use xubuntu?
[19:31] <lordcirth> _TheArchitect_, we're debugging here, this is faster.
[19:31] <HalfOfAKebab> _TheArchitect_: idk, i've got no experience with anything other than windows. i figured now is the time to get used to another OS too :p.
[19:34] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth, ioria: installed. restart now?
[19:34] <_TheArchitect_> lordcirth: Ahh right I see
[19:34] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, just logout
[19:34] <HalfOfAKebab> alright
[19:34] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, at the login screen you can choose xfce
[19:34] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  log out - login
[19:34] <HalfOfAKebab> if it works, i'll then install the drivers again. i'll let you know the results. brb
[19:35] <HalfOfAKebab> actually
[19:35] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  are not already installed ?
[19:35] <HalfOfAKebab> before i go
[19:35] <HalfOfAKebab> is there a way to remove mouse acceleration?
[19:35] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, yeah under mouse settings
[19:35] <HalfOfAKebab> not for me :s
[19:36] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth i have speed, double click speed, and primary mouse button
[19:36] <skinux> Hey...I saw news that 16.04 would have Unity panel horizontal at the bottom, but the box I installed it to still has it on the left?
[19:36] <lordcirth> I'm booting an Ubuntu VM
[19:36] <lordcirth> skinux, I don't know where you saw that
[19:36] <golem> hi
[19:36] <lordcirth> golem, hi
[19:37] <golem> do you have minecraft?
[19:37] <bcunreal> skinux - It's not in the bottom by default, you have to install Unity Tweak Tool and select Bottom at "Launcher Settings"
[19:37] <lordcirth> skinux, found it.  16.04 added an *option* to move it ther
[19:37] <skinux> And, how do I tell software updater to use Xenial instead of 14.04?
[19:37] <skinux> Ahh...okay
[19:37] <bekks> skinux: the Unity panel is pon the left.
[19:37] <Liam`> skinux: read the full post and it'll explain how to move it to the bottom https://links.ml/PMoA
[19:38] <lordcirth> golem, who?  You mean does Minecraft run on Ubuntu?  Yes.
[19:39] <golem> no i mean do you have minecraft?
[19:40] <bekks> golem: Whats your actual support question?
[19:40] <golem> curiosity
[19:40] <skinux> How about getting Software Updater to use Xenial instead of Trusty?
[19:40] <k1l_> skinux: you mean how to upgrade to 16.04 form a 14.04?
[19:40] <bekks> skinux: By upgrading Trusty to Xenial
[19:41] <skinux> Yeah, but I thought I'm supposed to use Software Updater to do the upgrade?
[19:41] <lordcirth> !offtopic | golem
[19:41] <k1l_> skinux: make sure your release prompt os set to LTS. then run "update-manager" it will ask for the upgrade to yenial
[19:42] <golem> do you guys know a video editor?
[19:42] <skinux> There we go, it's doing it.
[19:43] <lordcirth> golem, https://kdenlive.org/
[19:43] <golem> thx
[19:43] <bcunreal> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu in a laptop with AMD CPU and GPU but the live USB ends up stuck at the Ubuntu purple logo without progressing to the live session. The thing is it boots fine in another laptop I have with Intel CPU and NVIDIA GPU.
[19:43] <bcunreal> I've tried everything I could imagine - redownloading the ISO image, using different method to write to pendrive, using a different pendrive, I even tried the daily ISO of 16.10 but without success, and finally tried booting another distro (openSUSE), which it did boot just fine.
[19:43] <skinux> I'd love to learn to make a custom desktop environment. But there's a ton of code to study
[19:43] <bcunreal> I'm at a loss to understand what's the problem. Any ideas?
[19:44] <golem> change your background
[19:44] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | bcunreal : As a thought, graphics driver.
[19:44] <lordcirth> bcunreal, does pressing Tab or ESC do anything?
[19:45] <ioria> bcunreal, have you tried removing quiet splash and add nomodeset ?
[19:45] <golem> i have a channel chek it out
[19:46] <bekks> !ot | golem
[19:47] <bcunreal> ioria No, I haven't tried nomodeset. I will try it now according with the instructions from this forum post
[19:48] <ioria> bcunreal, ok
[19:48] <bcunreal> lordcirth No it doesn't, only the arrows switch between the splash screen and the cli text
[19:48] <ioria> bcunreal, just highlight try ubuntu , press 'e' ot 'tab' and edit the kernel boot line
[19:48] <golem> i need a screen recorder
[19:49] <skinux> Interesting version name..Xenial...I was just looking at the definition
[19:49] <golem> video
[19:49] <Backwards> Has anyone here had any problems with /etc/apt/sources.list   uncommenting the Canonical's Partners? For apt-get purposes.
[19:49] <bcunreal> ioria So I just delete the 'quiet' and 'splash' and write 'nomodeset' in there?
[19:49] <skinux> Now...can I get someone to help me troubleshoot wireless on this other box? It is connected via Ethernet, but I need it to have wireless.
[19:50] <ioria> bcunreal, yes ... don't touch  ' -- ' at the end
[19:50] <bcunreal> ok brb
[19:50] <golem> somebody knows
[19:50] <lordcirth> golem, 'gtk-recordmydesktop"
[19:51] <golem> a good back grounds hd one
[19:51] <lordcirth> golem, desktop backgrounds?  The internet is your friend
[19:51] <golem> dont understand
[19:52] <lordcirth> golem, google it
[19:52] <golem> i searched and i dint find anything
[19:53] <k1l_> !wallpaper | golem
[19:53] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria, lordcirth - i fixed the problem. even though ubuntu said it disabled uefi safe boot or whatever, it actually didn't. i manually disabled it and it works now :)
[19:53] <Backwards> Skinux I run a headless wireless server. I use a USB antenna. Railink puts one out.
[19:53] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  secure boot , you mean ?
[19:53] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria yeah that one
[19:53] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, "said it did"?  Nothing but editing BIOS yourself can disable Secure Boot, that's the point.  I suspect you misunderstood
[19:54] <skinux> I have a USB Wireless Adapter
[19:54] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, but, glad it works!
[19:54] <HalfOfAKebab> :P
[19:54] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  great
[19:54] <k1l_> skinux: show the line from "lsusb" from that device
[19:54] <slojanko> Hello, can somoene please help me remove a uefi entry?
[19:54] <Backwards> Railink works without installing any Ubuntu drivers.
[19:55] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  are you on unity right now ?
[19:55] <skinux> NetGear Inc. WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231]
[19:55] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria i'm not sure. i installed xubuntu-desktop, but nothing looks like it's changed
[19:55] <SubCool> Hey, i was forward a disk recovery tool form here a long time ago. It was amazing. Bootable, mbr something i think. anyone know it?
[19:55] <OerHeks> Backwards, that depends not on the brand, but the chipset.
[19:55] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  press Win key
[19:55] <Backwards> True.
[19:56] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, if you want to login with XFCE, you have to choose it at the login screne
[19:56] <lordcirth> screen*
[19:56] <Backwards> OerHeks in my case, the USB antenna which is about 1 inch by 2 1/2 inch works great.
[19:57] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  dash is opening ?
[19:57] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth i don't care about that :P i just wanted the drivers to work
[19:57] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria yes
[19:57] <Backwards> I have 3 of them running right now.
[19:57] <skinux> k1l_: NetGear Inc. WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231]
[19:58] <ahrc333ff> skinux: still working on that Broadcom chip, huh? lol. The only way I found was 'ndiswrapper' wrapping the windows driver. It's a huge PITA. You can get an excellent USB wireless card on Amazon for like $20.
[19:58] <k1l_> skinux: that is not the whole output from lsusb
[19:58] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  we are happy then ... can you run /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[19:58] <Backwards> Skinux have you looked in your system and looked for the GUI that sets up the USB wireless.
[19:59] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria yep, rx 480 graphics, everything says "yes"
[19:59] <ahrc333ff> Backwards: the problem is the broadcom chipset. There is no easy way to get the driver. I tried to help him a few days ago.
[19:59] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab, good job
[19:59] <skinux> k1l_: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0846:9020
[19:59] <Backwards> Oh! I see.
[19:59] <ahrc333ff> skinux: when you run these commands, do the following: $ command | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:59] <ahrc333ff> You'll get a link, copy/paste the link here. We can see the full output.
[20:00] <skinux> Hold on
[20:00] <k1l_> skinux: that is the worst wifi hardware you can use on linux at all
[20:00] <ahrc333ff> skinux: 'nc' is just a tool that establishes a tcp connection to port 9999 on terbmin.com, you piped the output to it, and in return termbin.com responds with a link and closes the connection. nothing malicious.
[20:01] <lordcirth> netcat is great.  It literally just throws the stuff you give it to the ip/port you tell it.  Great for doing all sorts of weird stuff
[20:02] <ahrc333ff> lordcirth: agreed. need to transfer files between computers and all you have to work with is an ip? netcat and IO redirection to the rescue! woot
[20:02] <ahrc333ff> lol
[20:02] <skinux> Okay...I'm now chatting using the older machine.
[20:02] <lordcirth> ahrc333ff, well, generally you'll have scp, but yeah
[20:03] <Elhanan> considering upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04,  I currently use software raid.   I believe in the past the "md" software wasn't part of the base upgrade software... is that still the case?  Is there prep I should do or docs I could reference prior to my upgrade?
[20:03] <ahrc333ff> lordcirth: true, but that requires ssl and that's not always configured
[20:03] <varaindemian> what theme could be this? http://kb.openstudioproject.com/sites/kb.openstudioproject.com/files/images/themes/Yosembiance_small.png
[20:05] <ahrc333ff> skinux: best wireless card I can think of for a linux user https://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036NHA-High-Wireless-Adaptor/dp/B004YD7UBQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1469995304&sr=8-2&keywords=alfa+wireless+atheros
[20:05] <skinux> k1l_: Here is the entire lsusb output https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/db55d60deaecd57f257ff293bd041700
[20:05] <blindinglight> my windows 10 guest freezes after the first installation restart. what can be wrong?
[20:05] <skinux> This is the wireless hardware I have and what I have to work with.
[20:05] <lordcirth> Elhanan, when you go to do the upgrade, it will present you with a (long!) list of package changes.  Just look for mdadm to see if it will be upgraded.  I bet it will.
[20:05] <ahrc333ff> skinux: yes, and you've already been advised, yo need to get ndiswrapper to work. the issue is a driver issue. broadcom does not make a driver for this device.
[20:05] <Backwards> Skinux type this in your terminal:   lsusb
[20:06] <skinux> You can suggest amazon links all day long, it ain't gonna happen, not at this time.
[20:06] <lordcirth> varaindemian, what part?  The dock at the bottom?
[20:06] <skinux> Backwards: https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/db55d60deaecd57f257ff293bd041700
[20:06] <varaindemian> lordcirth: the unity part
[20:06] <skinux> Okay, I'll get NDISWrapper and look for a Windows driver
[20:06] <varaindemian> borders, close, minimise buttons
[20:06] <ahrc333ff> Backwards: he did. link above. it shows the USB device, but as we noted in past exploration, there is no driver loaded. you cannot get a driver except through an ndiswrapper from what I was able to determine.
[20:07] <Backwards> Skinux check this URL:   https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221251
[20:08] <ahrc333ff> That was the same link I provided a few days ago :)
[20:08] <ahrc333ff> Noteable: I recall reading that some people had to attempt several drivers before it worked.
[20:08] <Backwards> LOL
[20:08] <lordcirth> varaindemian, the picture says it's  Yosembiance theme:  https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1013689/  Though that looks a bit different
[20:08] <ahrc333ff> Backwards: the issue is, this is all likely to break again on a future update.
[20:09] <lordcirth> varaindemian, I think the theme might have an orange setting which is used in the picture?
[20:09] <skinux> Is HexChat memory heavy? I already installed Ubuntu MATE which got the thing working lots faster, but it can still be a sluggish.
[20:09] <Backwards> Ahrc333ff thanks for the warning. hehe
[20:09] <Daisykiki> It doesn't ding me when you're done typing
[20:09] <slojanko> Can someone please help me completely remove Ubuntu entry in Bios? I've used subo efiboot mgr -b 4-B to remove it but after a restart it returns
[20:09] <varaindemian> lordcirth: yeah the buttons look different from yosembiance
[20:10] <lordcirth> skinux, if I'm reading correctly mine is using ~24MB
[20:11] <lordcirth> varaindemian, it could be that the picture is an old version of the theme
[20:11] <hijplos> with regard to ipv6 privacy extentions should I choose "enable (prefer temporary address)" or enable (prefer public address)"?
[20:11] <ahrc333ff> skinux: Effectively 0% of my memory (8GB) as well. Very low overhead.
[20:12] <Elhanan> lordcirth,  I see "mdadm" in the Upgrade section of my "Details" ... thanks!  (I've got my data backed up so I'll give it a try)
[20:12] <lordcirth> Oh oops that's 50MB.  Still, whatever
[20:12] <lordcirth> Elhanan, should be good then!
[20:12] <varaindemian> lordcirth: maybe.. but what I hate about these osx like themes is that the close/min/max buttons are not properly rendered
[20:12] <varaindemian> I can easly see the pixels
[20:13] <akik> slojanko: did you both modify -b and delete -B with the same command?
[20:13] <DelphiWorld> hi
[20:14] <DelphiWorld> is canonical faking people?
[20:14] <dax> what
[20:14] <lordcirth> DelphiWorld, in what way?
[20:14] <DelphiWorld> is dz.archive.ubuntu.com a fake mirror?
[20:14] <slojanko> akik: I dont know, I used it like this sudo efibootmgr -b 4 -B
[20:14] <dax> DelphiWorld: what's the actual problem that you're having?
[20:14] <lordcirth> DelphiWorld, why would you think it was?
[20:14] <DelphiWorld> lordcirth: ping dz.archive.ubuntu.com
[20:14] <akik> slojanko: try to only delete it
[20:15] <OerHeks> DelphiWorld, it is known on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[20:15] <DelphiWorld> dax, not a problem but strange situation
[20:15] <lordcirth> DelphiWorld, 91ms stable.  why?
[20:15] <k1l_> skinux: honestly: i would get a better working wifi device. this is really horrible. you need to use ndiswrapper which is really a pain: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2264020&highlight=wna3100
[20:15] <DelphiWorld> but it's pointing to GB
[20:15] <DelphiWorld> so it's not a local mirror
[20:15] <lordcirth> DelphiWorld, so it's a CNAME.  big deal.
[20:15] <DelphiWorld> lordcirth: i'll love to know more ?
[20:16] <dax> DelphiWorld: the country code mirror aliases point to whichever mirror(s) are relatively fast and stable for the country. Since not all countries have stable mirrors, sometimes they point to Canonical mirrors that tend to be in GB/US/etc.
[20:16] <lordcirth> DelphiWorld, but it's the correct mirror to use if you're in dz = (algeria?)
[20:16] <dax> they're not claiming that they have mirrors in every country, so they're not really faking anything
[20:16] <DelphiWorld> dax & lordcirth, i see other mirrors who's faster thant this one
[20:16] <lordcirth> DelphiWorld, then switch to those.
[20:16] <DelphiWorld> but now i think i know why ubuntu server choused it
[20:17] <DelphiWorld> cause maybe my ISP have a direct link to london
[20:17] <dax> DelphiWorld: long-term stability tends to be a concern, as well
[20:17] <DelphiWorld> dax, i am not suspecting anything, but just love to know
[20:17] <lordcirth> If my package download speed had anything to do with the mirror, I would be a happy mad
[20:17] <lordcirth> man*
[20:18] <DelphiWorld> lordcirth: latency mather a lot
[20:18] <skinux> k1l_: Unless you would like to buy it for me, it's not going to happen right now and maybe not anytime soon.
[20:19] <DelphiWorld> guys for explaining
[20:19] <skinux> This one says NetGear on it, technicaly  it's a Broadcom...NetGear doesn't sell garbage.
[20:20] <lordcirth> DelphiWorld, you're welcome :)  Though you should try to sound less accusatory next time :P
[20:20] <DelphiWorld> broadcom = deadcom
[20:20] <k1l_> skinux: the used chip is a broadcom. see the link i posted you
[20:20] <akik> slojanko: try "sudo efibootmgr -b 0004 -B 0004" if number 4 was ubuntu
[20:20] <OerHeks> netgear is a brand, BCM the chipset, don't mix those
[20:20] <DelphiWorld> hahaha lordcirth
[20:23] <Bashing-om> skinux: Have you seen the docs to get the BCM proprietary driver installed ?
[20:23] <slojanko> akik: its gone if I try sudo efibootmgr again but after restart it appears again in boot menu
[20:23] <Bashing-om> !bcm | skinux
[20:27] <stanton> ctjctj: bekks, i believe it's fixed now
[20:33] <Backwards> Skinux I use a wifi USB antenna. My wifi antenna looks like this: http://www.china-dhgate.com/mini-ralink-pc-wifi-adapter-300m-usb-wifi-antenna-wireless-computer-network-card-80211ngb-lan-antenna-whole-p-3613.html    <------< It runs on Windows with drivers and Ubuntu not having to install drivers.
[20:36] <stanton> ctjctj: bekks: it was the cable i was using. and the port kind both. the cable got loose i stopped the memtest after pass 4 due to the fact i was annoyed with the new stick it's slower than the old sticks. and when i opened the case to remove it i noticed the cable wasn't fully in the board XD that'd def cause issues with hdd not working right. haha thanks guys.
[20:37] <Ussat> can someone point me to some good docs on setting up a kerberos client to auth against AD ? I have done this in RHEL with no issues, (authconfig -tui in rhel) but I dont find a similar command in Ubuntu. I have instaled the correct packages, and configured my krb5.conf file , I just can not find out how to tell the logins to use kerberos instead of local passwords
[20:40] <neomex> why doesn't something.sh launch terminal when doubleclicked?
[20:40]  * rtm
[20:41] <neomex> also just typing it in terminal cant launch it
[20:41] <dax> neomex: does it have the execute bit set? (chmod +x file.sh)
[20:42] <docmur> i have a network <IP_ADDRESS> that I use for my LXC containers.  My default network is <IP_ADDRESS>, how do I route <IP_ADDRESS>/24 over <IP_ADDRESS>, I tried ip route add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 via <IP_ADDRESS>, but I get RTNETLINK answers: File exists.  The problem is that right now the LXC Containers can't reach the interne
[20:43] <neomex> dax, nop, how do i do it and what does chmod do?
[20:43] <HadesWatch3r> I have 16.04.1 LTS, when copying a large file from a USB it will cause my machine to slow to a crawl and then reboot, it is a Core i7 6700K with 32GB Ram and 512 SSD.... why is this happening?
[20:44] <dax> neomex: chmod changes the permissions modes of a file, including the execution permission mode
[20:44] <lordcirth> HadesWatch3r, it reboots?  Does it do a shutdown process or just reboot instantly?
[20:44] <dax> neomex: your file manager may have a Permissions tab in the file properties too, i've never used them for that so idk
[20:44] <HadesWatch3r> Instant reboot, no message in log that I can tell why?
[20:44] <HadesWatch3r> syslog that is..
[20:45] <neomex> dax, it keeps opening in gedit, i did the chmod thing on it
[20:45] <neomex> gedit is set as default application to run it, and it has allow executing as program toggled on
[20:46] <Bashing-om> HadesWatch3r: Is the USB drive with FAT file system ? such that there is that 4Gigs file size limitation .. maybe ??
[20:47] <HadesWatch3r> no sir.
[20:47] <HadesWatch3r> They are ext4 with LUKS encryption.
[20:47] <lordcirth> HadesWatch3r, how large is this "large file"?
[20:48] <lordcirth> HadesWatch3r, also, watch 'top' or 'htop' while the copy runs and see what is going on
[20:48] <HadesWatch3r> 39.1 GB
[20:48] <StephenS> I need a way to run mariadb and mysql server, both on ubuntu, how can I accomplish this?
[20:48] <lordcirth> StephenS, make an LXC container?
[20:48] <lordcirth> For each, that is
[20:49] <StephenS> you mean something like docker does?
[20:49] <Backwards> Ahrc333ff I bought my wireless antennas from this link. The prices are great: http://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-wifi-antenna.html    They are surplus computer supplies.
[20:49] <lordcirth> StephenS, docker is similar, yes
[20:49] <ppf> anyone versed with cups-pdf?
[20:49] <herbeth> hi guzy
[20:49] <StephenS> no way to run this on my instance, without isolated instance?
[20:50] <ppf> resulting documents carry no embedded text
[20:50] <HadesWatch3r> lordcirth ok, thanks.
[20:50] <ppf> is there a way to fix that?
[20:50] <HadesWatch3r> Bashing-om, thank you.
[20:50] <lordcirth> StephenS, there might be, but IMHO LXC is cleaner
[20:51] <ahrc333ff> Backwards: awesome, thx for the link!
[20:51] <Backwards> Your welcome.
[20:51] <Islah1> Hi all, does anyone here have experience with installing wifi drivers on lubuntu? (It's on a notebook so it has no ethernet port so i have to do it manually)
[20:52] <_TheArchitect_> StephenS: No. mariaDB is a fork of mysql. Can't be run on the same instance. Could use virtualbox and install arch for the mariaDB and have ubuntu as the host OS with mysql running.
[20:53] <_TheArchitect_> Islah1 Loads of horrible eperience. Had to compile and install reltek drivers before.
[20:53] <lordcirth> VMs work but containers are lighter.
[20:53] <Backwards> A lot of people don't know that a wireless antenna is designed for most USB applications.
[20:53] <ahrc333ff> Islah1: type the following: lsusb
[20:53] <_TheArchitect_> lsusb
[20:53] <Islah1> got it ahrc333ff
[20:54] <ahrc333ff> Ishlah1: In your computer, type lsusb and if you don't see your card there, then try lspci
[20:54] <ahrc333ff> Ishlah1: these commands go into the terminal :)
[20:54] <Islah1> BCM43142A0 Bluetooth Device
[20:55] <ahrc333ff> Islah1: BCM43142A0 is a broadcom device. They're usually the worst o_0 They offer very little to no driver support.
[20:55] <Islah1> yeah :(
[20:55] <Islah1> All other linux distros I have used worked right away
[20:55] <ahrc333ff> Islah1: well, that's good news then.
[20:56] <ahrc333ff> Islah1: in fact, if you have one of the other distros that you can boot to (live usb?) you can easily determine which driver it uses
[20:56] <tgm4883> !broadcom
[20:56] <k1l_> Islah1: try this: http://askubuntu.com/a/632348/31260
[20:57] <Islah1> will try that k1l_
[20:57] <Backwards> Ahrc333ff, I don't understand that Ksinux does'nt go directly to the Manufacturer.
[20:58] <Backwards> Skinux rather.
[20:59] <Backwards> Skinux should give that wireless a decent burrial.
[20:59] <ahrc333ff> Backwards: oh, haha. yeah. I agree
[20:59] <ahrc333ff> Backwards: makes it seem as if money is an issue though o_0
[20:59] <Backwards> I understand.
[20:59] <Backwards> I have been there but that is how you learn.
[21:00] <ahrc333ff> Backwards: agree
[21:00] <Backwards> My friend said years ago: "The best way to learn is to get mad at yourself."
[21:02] <Backwards> Most Manufacturers won't give  you the time of day with old equipment not supported.
[21:03] <Spec-Chum> Probably too generic a question but how would I remove a tab that precedes every line when I do  'git status | grep "bsnes" >> .gitingore
[21:03] <Spec-Chum> '  ?
[21:04] <Spec-Chum> actually, it's spaces not a tab, sorry
[21:04] <bekks> Spec-Chum: Using sed -i
[21:08] <KALASH> ubuntu is for niggers. use debian
[21:08] <dax> !botsnack | Drone`
[21:09] <Spec-Chum> bekks, dur, I've been using linus for years, how the hell did I not think of that haha.  Sorry
[21:09] <Spec-Chum> derp on my part
[21:12] <Backwards> Do the bots on this channel use Atheme or Anope? Or rely on freenode's chanserv?
[21:12] <uhasdf> how do I stop pidgin from autostarting? It's not in the Session and Startup>Application Autostart list but it pops up every time I reboot. I can't find a setting in Pidgin to stop this either
[21:14] <sponix> uhasdf: After you use Pidgin one time you are Stuck with it for LIFE
[21:14] <uhasdf> like herpes then
[21:14] <sponix> The Gift that Keeps on Giving
[21:14] <uhasdf> but seriously...shouldn't there be a way to disable autostart?
[21:16] <sponix> If it was annoying me I'd try a bit of "Google FU" on the topic and if that didn't turn out well I'd rename the executable to show it who was BOSS
[21:17] <neomex> how can i access virtualbox ubuntu files from host (windows) ?
[21:17] <neomex> if its the wrong place, where should i ask this?
[21:17] <dax> set up a shared directory in the VM settings, #vbox for more help with that
[21:17] <dax> should work fine in Ubuntu if vbox tools are installed
[21:18] <neomex> thanks again
[21:19] <sponix> uhasdf: --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/288352/how-to-stop-pidgin-to-run-at-ubuntu-start-up
[21:19] <uhasdf> yeah I saw that....didnt work for me
[21:20] <hidden> can anyone help me urgently im freaking out
[21:20] <uhasdf> that command results in nothing but the user prompt again
[21:20] <lordcirth> !ask | hidden
[21:20] <hidden> my internet connection is being routed through a vpn provider,
[21:20] <hidden> and i didn't do this
[21:20] <hidden> it's ubuntu
[21:20] <reisio> hidden: what makes you think that
[21:20] <hidden> says my ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:21] <hidden> searched, it's apparently mullvad
[21:21] <hidden> should i disconnect and format? i need to backup stuff
[21:21] <Backwards> Uhasdf reading this might be interesting: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1341801
[21:21] <hidden> it's damn annoying
[21:21] <hidden> i'm not even paying for this vpn
[21:22] <lordcirth> hidden, do you have any idea how long?  Did anyone use your computer who might have done this and forgot to turn it off?
[21:22] <hidden> <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:22] <reisio> hidden: who's your ISP?
[21:22] <hidden> nope, no one used it
[21:22] <hidden> virgin media
[21:22] <k1l_> hidden: what shows you "wget http://ipinfo.io/ip -qO -" in terminal?
[21:22] <hidden> is someone attacking me right now?
[21:23] <hidden> wget http://ipinfo.io/ip -qO -
[21:23] <Backwards> Also try this: http://blog.chapagain.com.np/xubuntu-how-to-stop-applications-launching-on-startup-automatically/
[21:23] <hidden> SAME ip
[21:23] <reisio> hidden: boot up a live ISO
[21:23] <hidden> <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:23] <uhasdf> Backwards: thanks...saw that as well. Pidgin isn't in any autostart list or directory...yet it autostarts anyway
[21:23] <k1l_> hidden: so you set up a system proxy?
[21:23] <reisio> hidden: if you're still using a VPN from that, then you can relax somewhat, as it'll be part of your ISP's setup, or your local network/router's
[21:23] <hidden> no
[21:23] <k1l_> hidden: or use tor or such?
[21:23] <hidden> yes i used tor, but this is google chrome
[21:24] <hidden> tor isn't runnning i guess
[21:24] <sponix> uhasdf: Did you try the Terminal portion listed there ?
[21:24] <k1l_> hidden: so you set tor to be used by the system?
[21:24] <hidden> my isp won't do this
[21:24] <uhasdf> sponix: yes....the command doesnt do anything
[21:24] <uhasdf> just returns me to the user prompt
[21:24] <hidden> nope
[21:24] <ikonia> hidden: that you know of
[21:24] <reisio> and I mentioned more than the ISP
[21:24] <uhasdf> nothing I have found in 5 pages of google results has worked....
[21:24] <hidden> doing sudo apt-get autoremove tor
[21:24] <k1l_> hidden: we cant know what you set up or changed
[21:24] <hidden> but i doubt tor would change my computer ip
[21:24] <ikonia> hidden: of course it would
[21:25] <ikonia> hidden: thats the whole point, you're proxying out of it
[21:25] <uhasdf> it seems a lot of people have the same issue but i dont see any solution
[21:25] <hidden> yes but i need to configure my network settings
[21:25] <reisio> anyway, if you boot up a live OS, you'll know whether it's unique to your installed system
[21:25] <ikonia> hidden: no you don't
[21:25] <hidden> to poitn to tor's socks
[21:25] <hidden> i surely do
[21:25] <lordcirth> hidden, The fastest way to be totally sure is to boot a LiveUSB.  Go do that.
[21:25] <tgm4883> lordcirth: +1
[21:25] <hidden> i want to check the current config
[21:26] <uhasdf> I have no autostart or sessions settings that should cause it...no .cache or .config files for pidgin
[21:26] <hidden> for network settings, where can i find relevant info
[21:26] <ikonia> hidden: verify it with a livecd first
[21:26] <lordcirth> hidden, http://puppylinux.com/
[21:26] <lordcirth> If you don't have an iso lying around
[21:27] <Backwards> Uhasdf perhaps there is another program that is opening up the program automatically.
[21:27] <hidden> my router is OK, i checked on another pc
[21:27] <ikonia> not what was asked
[21:27] <Islah1> ok i think i may have found a solution!
[21:27] <ikonia> hidden: check it with a livecd and confirm
[21:27] <uhasdf> Backwards: I would have no idea how to determine that...any ideas?
[21:27] <hidden> check what?
[21:27] <ikonia> hidden: if the routing still happens
[21:27] <hidden> livecd is a fresh install, what sthe difference
[21:27] <ikonia> hidden: a livecd won't have been modified by anything
[21:27] <hidden> i connected a diff device on same network and it has my usual ip
[21:27] <sponix> uhasdf: Man I hope that Pidgin doesn't come up the next time I boot !
[21:27] <hidden> so it's definitely this os that has a misconf
[21:28] <ikonia> hidden: https://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py?ip=<IP_ADDRESS>
[21:28] <k1l_> hidden: did you use torsocks?
[21:28] <ikonia> hidden: it's a tor exit node
[21:28] <uhasdf> sponix: I am putting the pidgin evil on you
[21:28] <Backwards> Maybe start with dmesg.
[21:28] <hidden> https://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py?ip=<IP_ADDRESS>
[21:29] <hidden> i don't think so, my ip was fine till yesterday
[21:29] <hidden> tor has been running on my computer as usual
[21:29] <ikonia> hidden: check it on a lviecd
[21:29] <ikonia> livecd
[21:29] <sponix> uhasdf: Well, I'm not sure why I hang out here.. But I run Linux Mint anyway.. So with a little luck I wont fall victim to your Evil Plot
[21:29] <hidden> but i usually configure apps to do this
[21:29] <ikonia> and it's showing up in old tor lists
[21:29] <ikonia> so it certainly looks like a tor node
[21:30] <hidden> mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[21:30] <hidden> i'm pissed
[21:30] <hidden> ok
[21:30] <hidden> formatting
[21:30] <hidden> disconnecting
[21:30] <hidden> if i can't repair
[21:30] <reisio> haven't you been using tor, though?
[21:30] <sponix> uhasdf: What Version and Flavor of Ubuntu are you running ?
[21:30] <hidden> yes i used tor, but through firefox
[21:30] <ikonia> hidden: ok - bye then, if you don't want help - no point discussing it
[21:30] <ikonia> go format
[21:30] <ikonia> bye
[21:30] <uhasdf> xubuntu 16.04
[21:30] <hidden> this is forwarding ALL MY CONNECTIONS
[21:30] <reisio> it's true the only way you can be sure all the time that your system hasn't been compromised, though, is to have been tracking changes to it from installation time (AIDE, etc.)
[21:31] <ikonia> hidden: yes, we know - but you'r enot willing to work with us to verify
[21:31] <hidden> you are telling me to boot from live usb, ikonia
[21:31] <ikonia> so off you go, go and format
[21:31] <Backwards> Uhasdf, you can look at    top   or Netstat to see what is talking in the background.
[21:31] <k1l_> hidden: because you set something to use it that way. ubuntu doesnt do that on its own
[21:31] <uhasdf> hidden:  calm down dude...you are acting weird
[21:31] <lordcirth> reisio, TIL about AIDE.  Thanks!
[21:31] <hidden> dude i'm not sure if someone has malware on my laptop right now
[21:31] <reisio> lordcirth: but I wasn't the one who told you :p
[21:31] <uhasdf> Backwards: how do I do that? Just type "netstat"?
[21:31] <ikonia> yes we know
[21:31] <ikonia> thats why we are advising you on how to verify it
[21:31] <ikonia> but you keep ignoring it
[21:31] <hidden> by what using livecd?
[21:31] <ikonia> so either accept help - or stop asking
[21:31] <Backwards> Something like netstat tuanlp
[21:32] <ikonia> using a livecd will verify things
[21:32] <ikonia> hence why you're being asked to do it
[21:32] <hidden> why it's just a fresh os
[21:32] <ikonia> hidden: - ok, then lets take the compromised approach
[21:32] <lordcirth> hidden, yeah, that's the point.  A fresh OS, without malware.
[21:32] <ikonia> hidden: your machine has been compromised, it cannot be trusted, take it off the network and format your machine
[21:32] <ikonia> hidden: that is the only way to be sure of fixing a compromised machine
[21:32] <reisio> well, a different OS
[21:32] <hidden> that's what i'ma do, and this is only machine i can use to communicate on irc hence why i don't want to turn off yet
[21:32] <hidden> so cool
[21:32] <reisio> it will, again, tell you whether the issue is unique to your install
[21:33] <ikonia> hidden: you can communicate from a livecd
[21:33] <ikonia> hidden: but as you don't want this, please follow the compromised machine approach
[21:33] <ikonia> disconnect your machine and format straight away
[21:33]  * hidden looks for a usb
[21:33] <ikonia> as your tools could be compromised and not trusted
[21:33] <hidden> ok thanks, i'l be back sometime
[21:33] <ikonia> we don't need to know how it works out
[21:34] <ikonia> just format your machine and carry on using it when it works again
[21:34] <hidden> any ideas on how i could save a snapshot of this drive
[21:34] <ikonia> no
[21:34] <ikonia> it's compromised
[21:34] <Backwards> https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/startup-applications.html
[21:34] <ikonia> your tools cannot be trusted
[21:34] <zayd> hi
[21:34] <tgm4883> ikonia: that's not really helpful
[21:34] <ikonia> tgm4883: it is - there where other options, he doesn't want to do them, so we have to use compromised as a starting point
[21:34] <zayd> i have a problem with my wireless connection
[21:35] <ewu28> Hi
[21:35] <sponix> uhasdf: Do you have "System / Preferences / Sessions" ?
[21:35] <hidden> ikonia if you want to be helpful just tell me how i can check the network config and find out proxy settinggs
[21:35] <uhasdf> yep....not there.
[21:35] <ikonia> hidden: it's pointless until we know the state of your system
[21:35] <ikonia> hence checking with a livecd
[21:35] <uhasdf> pidgiin doesnt show up in any config files or settings that the common results blame for this
[21:35] <hidden> anyone else?
[21:35] <ikonia> as if you ARE compromised, your tools can't be trusted
[21:36] <tgm4883> ikonia: what's a livecd going to tell him that another system wouldn't?
[21:36] <ikonia> so we need to know for the certain the state of your machine, and a livecd is the best and quickest wa to do this
[21:36] <ikonia> tgm4883: what other system
[21:36] <hidden> thnk you tgm4883
[21:36] <zayd> when i use the ipconfig command i can't find the "wlan0" but i get "wlp2s0" and i can't connect to my network
[21:36] <ikonia> tgm4883: it will tell a lot
[21:36] <ikonia> eg: mac based routing on the router
[21:36] <tgm4883> ikonia: he already said another system on the same network doesn't have this issue
[21:36] <ikonia> so ?
[21:36] <hidden> ^
[21:36] <ikonia> there are more than one config and compromise on a network
[21:37] <k1l_> hidden: it would help a lot if you could tell what your exact system is and what you changed.
[21:37] <hidden> i just need to find out if it's a simple network configuration
[21:37] <ikonia> could be as simple as a firewall rule on the router
[21:37] <ikonia> hidden: what is your default route
[21:37] <hidden> i can't see any openvpn loaded on network manager
[21:37] <hidden> or installed
[21:37] <zayd> someone to help, please!!!
[21:37] <Xpistos> Hey all. I am trying to install ubuntu 16.04 on my asus laptop but it says I don't not have any free space. there is a 1TB drive in the system but that says I don't have permissions. Not sure what to do here and could use some help
[21:37] <ikonia> openvpn load ??
[21:37] <ikonia> what
[21:37] <k1l_> hidden: you claim its a fresh os and ubuntu changed something. but that cleary is not the case. since you already said you used tor and such
[21:38] <ikonia> the ip is showing up in the tor network list
[21:38] <hidden> it's not a fresh install the network settings changed all of a sudden and i can't find out why
[21:38] <hidden> i don't have any openvpn profiles installed
[21:38] <ikonia> hidden: thats why we want to verify with a livecd
[21:38] <ikonia> tor is not an openvpn
[21:38] <tgm4883> ikonia: if you, as you are alluding to, that it's possible that it's a issue with mac based routing on the FW (or other issue with the router) then reformating isn't going to help
[21:38] <ikonia> so that has nothing to do with it
[21:38] <k1l_> hidden: what exact ubuntu system is it?
[21:38] <hidden> 16.04
[21:38] <ikonia> tgm4883: no, it's not, but as he won't verify anything
[21:38] <irregular> hi guys my internet has been abnormally slow I look at the browser console network tab and DNS lookup takes 8 seconds for any site I visit
[21:38] <ikonia> a 2 minute boot from a live media will prove the basics quickly
[21:38] <tgm4883> ikonia: well yes, he should listen to instructions and follow them
[21:39] <Backwards> Uhasdf try this link:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/288352/how-to-stop-pidgin-to-run-at-ubuntu-start-up
[21:39] <k1l_> hidden: "dpkg -l | grep -i tor | nc termbin.com 9999" show the url here
[21:39] <ikonia> tgm4883: right - which he's not doing, so I have no choice but to assume compromise as I can't verify anything
[21:39] <ikonia> tgm4883: and if it is compromised, it can't be trusted format
[21:39] <uhasdf> Backwards: alraedy did
[21:39] <ikonia> it's pointless to come in here asking for help then refuse to do the steps to resolve the problem
[21:39] <uhasdf> didnt work...the command doesnt work
[21:39] <ikonia> so either do it - or stop asking
[21:39] <hidden> http://termbin.com/0kh6
[21:39] <tgm4883> hidden: you really need to follow instructions here
[21:40] <hidden> k1l_, "dpkg -l | grep -i tor | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:40] <uhasdf> seems pidgin and I are in it for life
[21:40] <hidden> http://termbin.com/0kh6
[21:40] <Islah1> ugh this is so frustrating
[21:40] <Backwards> Have you  apt-get upgrade and update lately?
[21:41] <hidden> i had some update notification show up a few times for ubuntu
[21:41] <hidden> system update
[21:41] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with updates
[21:41] <zayd> hi there please someone to help me
[21:41] <ikonia> its' very likley a tor config
[21:41] <ikonia> the quicker you just verify this the better you'll be
[21:41] <ikonia> the ip you quote is listed in tor network nodes
[21:41] <ikonia> the odds are high it's just a bad tor config / process thats not died / reset
[21:42] <hidden> i did sudo apt-get remove tor
[21:42] <hidden> autoremove
[21:42] <hidden> should i do purge too
[21:42] <hidden> and reboot
[21:42] <ikonia> that won't change it if it's running in ram
[21:42] <hidden> man i have a lot of work to backup
[21:42] <ikonia> why are you backing up things ?
[21:42] <hidden> ok i'l disconnect and just backup my stuff
[21:42] <k1l_> hidden: did you reboot since?
[21:42] <ikonia> we just want to verify your network routes
[21:43] <hidden> no
[21:43] <hidden> need to download the ubuntu liveusb through tor :/
[21:43] <Xpistos> OSError: [Errno 28] No space left on device
[21:43] <zayd> i have a problem please!!!!!!!
[21:43] <ikonia> zayd: be patient
[21:43] <ewu28> is your machine even picking up that you have wifi ?
[21:44] <ikonia> zayd: you'll end up ignored
[21:44] <Xpistos> There is 1tb on the drive
[21:44] <zayd> sorry
[21:44] <Xpistos> and I am booting from a USB
[21:44] <Islah1> Hi again, when trying to use this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx (for STA, no internet access) when trying to install dkms I get a dependency error is not satifiable: gcc
[21:44] <uhasdf> thanks for the attempts guys...if anyone needs to chat over pidgin I will be on it for the rest of my life so hit me up ;)
[21:44] <ikonia> hidden: just reboot your host
[21:44] <k1l_> Xpistos: can you show the output of "df -h | nc termbin.com 9999"?
[21:44] <ikonia> hidden: see if the problem goes away now that you've removed tor
[21:44] <bekks> Xpistos: Give us the URL of "df -h | nc termbin.com 9999" please :)
[21:44] <hidden> ok i'll reboot brb
[21:45] <tgm4883> hidden: ikonia I'm not super familiar with tor, but shouldn't we be able to see if it's being used?
[21:45] <motaka2> hello when I install sudo apt-get install php5-curl  it says package not found on ubuntu 14.04, what should I do?
[21:45] <ikonia> tgm4883: depends, there are 10 ways to use it
[21:45] <ewu28> ? what's the problem
[21:45] <hidden> notsur
[21:45] <hidden> brb
[21:45] <ikonia> and looking at his pakage list, he's got 2 - 3 options plus an advanced connection manager on it
[21:45] <Xpistos> bekks: http://termbin.com/bevc
[21:45] <ewu28> !!!!! sounds serious
[21:46] <notadeveloper> xD
[21:46] <chili555> Islah1: Are you trying to compile the package from source? Whay? That's the (very) hard way.
[21:46] <k1l_> Xpistos: is this a live system?
[21:46] <tgm4883> ikonia: without it being installed, wouldn't it be enough to check if it's currently running and the system proxy?
[21:46] <bekks> Xpistos: you are running a livecd, are you?
[21:46] <Xpistos> bekks: I am on a live usb to install yes
[21:46] <ptah> where do i get a free irc shell?
[21:46] <Islah1> Chilli555 im all out of options trying to get this broadcom driver installed
[21:46] <OerHeks> motaka2, try php7.0-curl
[21:46] <bekks> Xpistos: you cannot install things on a livecd. :)
[21:46] <ikonia> tgm4883: no, as it can also be a daemon that the default route goes through, there are various ways to configure it
[21:46] <OerHeks> !info php7.0-curl
[21:46] <tgm4883> ikonia: daemons run to do they not?
[21:47] <ikonia> tgm4883: hence the quick test - it's likley it's still there / running somehow due to the ip being in the exit node lists
[21:47] <ikonia> tgm4883: they do indeed
[21:47] <rajivmars> which java software i have to install to run java based programs in ubuntu 16.04?
[21:47] <ikonia> tgm4883: or they pass through a library
[21:47] <chili555> Islah1: Which device is it? What is its pci.id? 14e4:????
[21:47] <Xpistos> bekks: i am not trying to install it to a cd or a usb, I am trying to install it to the hard drive it isn't getting to the point where I can say where install
[21:47] <ikonia> depending on how you have it setup,
[21:47] <OerHeks> motaka2, oops sorry, you said 14.04 my bad
[21:47] <ptah> where do i get a free irc shell?
[21:47] <Xpistos> I have never seen this before.
[21:47] <Islah1> sec
[21:47] <motaka2> OerHeks: so what should I do ?
[21:47] <bekks> Xpistos: So how are you trying to do that, in particular?
[21:47] <k1l_> Xpistos: the usb is full. did you run a upgrade on that live system?
[21:48] <OerHeks> !info php5-curl  trusty
[21:48] <Xpistos> I am double clicking the install ubuntu 16.04 LTS icon on the desktop and it sayd there was 0 space
[21:48] <OerHeks> should be there, motaka2
[21:48] <motaka2> OerHeks: Then why mine is not ?
[21:48] <Xpistos> k1l_: no upgrade
[21:48] <Islah1> Broadcom BCM43142 @ chili555
[21:48] <Xpistos> I have 16 gb usb and it said the same thing
[21:49] <OerHeks> motaka2, dunno, maybe you added a ppa for php ???
[21:49] <chili555> Islah1: 14e4:????
[21:49] <zayd> ikonia: when i use the ifconfig command i can't find the "wlan0" but i get "wlp2s0" and i can't connect to my network
[21:49] <motaka2> OerHeks: Yes I did , i think
[21:49] <ikonia> zayd: I'm not helping you - as you keep just spamming the channel, as I said, be patient, not ask me directly
[21:49] <Xpistos> bekks: I tried to do with with a live cd as well. same thing happened
[21:49] <ptah> hello??
[21:49] <ptah> where do i get a free irc shell?
[21:49] <ikonia> ptah: not here
[21:49] <Backwards> Uhasdf the only resort I can think of right now is this link: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[21:49] <ikonia> ptah: check the web
[21:50] <ptah> ok
[21:50] <k1l_> ptah: this is only ubuntu support. for other talk join #chat
[21:50] <Xpistos> I have install ubuntu and mint a bunch of times and have never seen this
[21:51] <Islah1> 14e4:4329 @chili555
[21:51] <hidden> removed tor its fixed... for now i guess
[21:51] <Islah1> sorry nvm
[21:51] <Islah1> its 14e4:4365 @ chili555
[21:51] <ikonia> hidden: for now ?
[21:51] <k1l_> Xpistos: restart the system. dont run the update on the live system. just install ubuntu
[21:51] <hidden> still couscous
[21:52] <chili555> Islah1: bcmwl-kernel-source is correct for this device. Did you install it? Is the module loaded? lsmod | grep wl
[21:52] <ikonia> ?
[21:52] <hidden> i'm going to backup work and format
[21:52] <ikonia> why ?
[21:52] <hidden> loads of third party applications installed
[21:52] <hidden> i don't trust this system anymore
[21:52] <ikonia> so ?
[21:52] <hidden> can be anything running
[21:52] <ikonia> why not ?
[21:52] <hidden> what do you mean?
[21:52] <ikonia> what reason do you have to not trust the system
[21:53] <ikonia> actually, I don't care, you won't listen anyway
[21:53] <ikonia> just do what you want
[21:53] <hidden> you have loads of applications installed, risks are higher for some to be malicious
[21:53] <hidden> why are you so arrogant lol
[21:53] <ikonia> hidden: whatever,
[21:53] <ikonia> hidden: because you don't listen
[21:53] <ikonia> it's pointless to try to discuss or help
[21:53] <ikonia> so just carry on with what you want
[21:53] <hidden> ikonia just because you provide help, which i appreciate doesn't mean you know best
[21:53] <tgm4883> couscous?
[21:53] <tgm4883> isn't that food
[21:53] <hidden> auto correct
[21:53] <ikonia> hidden: apply logic,
[21:53] <OerHeks> tgm4883, indeed
[21:53] <hidden> logic: do you have any background in network security
[21:53] <ikonia> hidden: you routed out of a tor node, you removed tor, it stopped routing out of a tor node
[21:54] <ikonia> what's not to trust
[21:54] <Islah1> for 14e4:4365 I looked at it said bcmwl was the correct one o.O @ chili555
[21:54] <hidden> i installed many applications some might have been malware
[21:54] <hidden> even though trusted sources
[21:54] <ikonia> and if you ARE infected, backing up possible infected files and restoring them is bad
[21:54] <pennTeller> Hi guys, I heard that Systemd is now logging using binary, is this true??
[21:54] <hidden> infected files: personal work
[21:55] <ikonia> hidden: you have no idea what's infected what's not
[21:55] <chili555> Islah1: Correct. So did you install it? sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[21:55] <ikonia> if you can't trust your system and may have malware, it could be in your personal files
[21:55] <hidden> do you have anti virus lel
[21:55] <ikonia> hidden: antivirus is worthless
[21:55] <Islah1> No, I have no internet connection (it is a notebook with no ethernet port)
[21:55] <k1l_> pennTeller: yes. but iirc ubuntu still got classic logfiles
[21:55] <hidden> ok i get the message, burning laptop
[21:55] <Islah1> @ chili555
[21:55] <ikonia> hidden: no, not at all
[21:55] <ikonia> hidden: this is what I mean about you not listening
[21:56] <ikonia> your problem was "my machine is routing out of a tor node"
[21:56] <ikonia> you removed tor - and it stopped
[21:56] <ikonia> what reason do you have to not trust it ?
[21:56] <Backwards> Ikonia how true. Backing up a virus or infection is just asking for trouble. The time to backup a system is before installing anything new so you can revert back to what works.
[21:56] <hidden> yes, and you think it might have been a tor misconfig
[21:56] <pennTeller> k1l_: do you know the reasoning behind that decision? seems a bit suspicious to me
[21:56] <ikonia> hidden: I'm pretty certain it was
[21:56] <hidden> it could have been, maybe its not just that
[21:56] <curlyears> what command do I use at the CLI prompt to view the name and ID of my processor, or to view the temmps and speeds the fan(s) are running at?
[21:56] <Xpistos_> k1l_: I didn't update the live usb. I booted into it and double clicked install ubuntu and got the 0 space error
[21:56] <ikonia> hidden: what reason do you have to think it's not that
[21:56] <pennTeller> k1l_: almost like somebody is trying to be sneaky
[21:56] <k1l_> pennTeller: well, ask the systemd guys. it was their decision
[21:56] <ikonia> what other symptom or hint
[21:56] <kantlivelong> how can i turn on a pm-suspend quirk?
[21:56] <hidden> i'm paranoid
[21:57] <Xpistos_> k1l_: I am rebotting that box now just for giggles
[21:57] <hidden> and autoremove removed affiliated stuff
[21:57] <ikonia> hidden: then there is no point discussing it - as you won't apply reason, you'll just do what you want
[21:57] <hidden> did it remove stuff that came with to
[21:57] <hidden> rtor
[21:57] <ikonia> hence "just carry on"
[21:57] <hidden> or onces linked to tor
[21:57] <OerHeks> curlyears, lscpu, for temp see lmsensors
[21:57] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[21:57] <pennTeller> k1l_: I guess I will. Do you know where they can be found?
[21:57] <chudak> hi all, wondering if anybody has any good/bad experience using IPMI tool with Intel NUC I7 running 16.04?
[21:58] <Xpistos> k1l_: I chose install ubuntu this time. no gui
[21:58] <Xpistos> k1l_: I have the install screen. I am putting in my wireless password. Clicking on install and ...
[21:59] <k1l_> Xpistos: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[21:59] <Xpistos> k1l_: 16.04 64x
[22:00] <k1l_> hmm
[22:00] <Xpistos> k1l_: it won't give me the wireless, so I am gonna skip that and just go basic
[22:01] <kantlivelong> do files in /etc/pm/config.d need exec bit?
[22:01] <Xpistos> k1l_: no it says ubi-partman failed with exit code 10 and do I want to continue
[22:01] <Xpistos> k1l_: if I say yes it will continue to fail with a bunch of stuff
[22:01] <Xpistos> k1l_: So I will boot back into the gui and try to install there
[22:02] <curlyears> E: Unable to locate package lmsensors
[22:02] <Xpistos> k1l_: When I canceled it said the same thing, that there was 0 space available
[22:03] <curlyears> e:  lmsensors not found, and I've tried apt-get install, claims it cannot find lmsensors
[22:03] <dax> i think it's lm-sensors or lm_sensors or something
[22:03] <ikonia> try searching for lmsensors
[22:03] <chili555> Islah1: BRB
[22:03] <Islah1> ok @ chili555
[22:03] <OerHeks> lm-sensors with a dash
[22:03] <k1l_> !info lm-sensors | curlyears
[22:04] <k1l_> Xpistos: something on creating that usb went wrong
[22:04] <OerHeks> curlyears, that answer you could find in the url from ubottu
[22:04] <Xpistos> k1l_: I will make another with my mint system and unetbootin
[22:04] <Xpistos> but I have done this several times already
[22:04] <k1l_> Xpistos: how did you do this one?
[22:05] <Xpistos> k1l_: same way on different computers
[22:05] <OerHeks> Xpowhat is on that hdd ? windows with bitlocker or is it a UEFI system??
[22:05] <Apteryx> Hi! My dad tried to update from 15.10 to 16.04, but now Ubuntu seems to go to suspend after the splash screen LUKS passwordprompt.
[22:05] <k1l_> Xpistos: tried "dd"?
[22:05] <Xpistos> k1l_: on the target system?
[22:05] <Apteryx> I feel it's probably not really suspended because he says he can still hear fans spinning.
[22:06] <k1l_> Xpistos: "dd" to create the live usb
[22:06]  * zykotick9 suggests NOT using unetbootin with hybrid iso images
[22:06]  * zykotick9 would also suggest using cp over dd, but ymmv there...
[22:06] <Xpistos> k1l_: No I have never done that before
[22:06] <chili555> Islah1: Back but I only have a couple of minutes. Is the driver installed? Working as expected?
[22:06] <Xpistos> k1l_: I am willing to do it if you give me the commad
[22:06] <Xpistos> command
[22:07] <Islah1> Still trying to figure out  way to install it without internet connection :p @ chili555
[22:07] <zykotick9> "sudo cp foo.iso /dev/sdb" IF sdb is your darget drive!
[22:07] <zykotick9> s/darget/target/
[22:07] <zykotick9> to be safe run "sync" afterwords.
[22:08] <chili555> Islah1: Do you have the Ubutntu install DVD or USB? The package and its dependency dkms are on there.
[22:08] <chili555> Islah1: Gotta zoom. Sorry.
[22:08] <k1l_> Xpistos: the cp command from zykotick9 should work too
[22:09] <zayd> i have a problem with wifi connection
[22:09] <Xpistos> k1l_: "sudo cp foo.iso /dev/sdb" got it
[22:10] <zykotick9> Xpistos: note, you might need "sudo sync"... not sure, can't test.
[22:11] <ctjctj> sync never needs root privs
[22:11] <Islah1> ugh
[22:11] <Islah1> this is never going to work :(
[22:11] <zykotick9> ctjctj: thanks.
[22:11] <Xpistos> zykotick9: what is "s/darget/target/"
[22:11] <Apteryx> Actually, it has nothing to do with suspend, but with the video signal being lost after grub loads.
[22:11] <zykotick9> substitue darget for target
[22:12] <Xpistos> zykotick9: got yah
[22:12] <zykotick9> Xpistos: regex ftw ;)
[22:12] <ctjctj> the 's' is ed/ex/vim/sed for "substitute" the character after is the demark.  The regex in between first and second demarks is your search pattern and the text between the second and third is the replacement text.
[22:12] <Xpistos> zykotick9: I will let you know in a few minutes. have to redownload the iso and ... my regex fu is not strong
[22:13] <zykotick9> Xpistos: re "my regex fu is not strong" <- nor is mine... really ;)
[22:13] <ctjctj> regex is a write only language.
[22:13]  * ctjctj has good regex foo.  "And it is STILL write only"
[22:16] <curlyears> why does this:  find / 'lm-sensor'   result in a humongous list of when seems to be every file of every directory on my SSD?  I have gone over the instructions in the man page, and I thought this is what I needed.
[22:17] <zykotick9> curlyears: "find / -name 'lm-sensor'
[22:17] <zykotick9> or -iname without case sensitivity.
[22:17] <curlyears> I did apt-get install on lm-sensors.  Apt-get informs me that it is installed.  Yet, when I try to type lm-sensors it sayd "command not found"
[22:17] <Islah1> Anyone reccomend a lightweight linux distro that has broadcom driver support for wifi? Lubuntu is giving me too much of a headache trying to figure this sh*t out :(
[22:18] <lordcirth> Islah1, is it a really new adapter?
[22:18] <curlyears> zykotick9: I tried -iname   it maade no difference
[22:18] <Islah1> Not really  @ lordcirth
[22:18] <Islah1> I dont think so at least
[22:19] <Islah1> its a broadcom 14e4:4365
[22:19] <Islah1> i tried installing bcmwl kernel source via the ubuntu install files and i get a gcc error
[22:20] <lordcirth> Islah1, there's a support thread that got it working in 2012
[22:20] <squinty> curlyears,  might want to install  mlocate and then run the following commands   sudo updatedb && locate <program name>
[22:20] <Islah1> Where at? I feel like i've tried everything on the internet
[22:20] <Islah1> @ lordcirth
[22:20] <lordcirth> Islah1, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1145360#p1145360
[22:21] <Islah1> ill look at it, thanks @ lordcirth
[22:21] <lordcirth> Islah1, actually this looks better: http://askubuntu.com/questions/175104/how-do-i-install-bcm43142-wireless-drivers-for-dell-vostro-3460-3560
[22:22] <Xpistos> zykotick9: iso is downloaded now running the cp command
[22:22] <lordcirth> It's for 12.04 tho, so ymmv
[22:22] <squinty> curlyears,  you can also use the "which" command to locate executables.  eg  which firefox  (type in terminal)
[22:23] <arm_986-80486xf>  pastebin.com/u4TFr42L <- The *NEW Hunter Reon Barnes Infinity Generator
[22:23] <Xpistos> zykotick9: better ext4 or fat32?
[22:24] <Islah1> @ lordcirth if i need to install pre-reqs such as "sudo apt-get install build-essential dkms" like it says, how can i do that with no internet connection?
[22:24] <lordcirth> Islah1, does your laptop not have an ethernet port?
[22:25] <Islah1> nope, it's a netbook and it doesnt have one :(
[22:25] <Islah1> thats why its making it so difficult
[22:25] <lordcirth> Islah1, how are you on IRC right now?
[22:26] <Islah1> my desktop
[22:26] <lordcirth> Islah1, you have a USB stick?  You can download the packages there and move them across
[22:27] <fff> do you really need to use swap?
[22:27] <Islah1> I do have a usb stick yeah
[22:27] <Islah1> which packages do i need exactly?
[22:28] <k1l_> fff: no. if you have enough ram and dont want to use hibternation
[22:28] <k1l_> *hibernation
[22:28] <fff> is it possible to use swap on a flash drive
[22:29] <lordcirth> fff, yes, but you will wear it out
[22:29] <zykotick9> Xpistos: with the cp command i gave you, it won't matter if the usb is fat or ext <- it'll be overwritten regardless (as will EVERYTHING else on that drive, so be sure the sdb is the correct one!)
[22:29] <lordcirth> Islah1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline
[22:29] <Xpistos> zykotick9: solid. off we go
[22:32] <yuken> Will Ubuntu experience any problems if I: install it in a virtual machine (VirtualBox), convert it to a raw image (dd if = /dev/sd[whatever] of = image), then install that image onto a hard drive (dd if = image of = /dev/sd[whatever])?
[22:33] <curlyears> squintyy:   I did this //paste.ubuntu.com/21688737/ aand then did "which lm-sensors"  which comes back with no response, just a new prompt
[22:33] <k1l_> curlyears: any reason you still didnt run the updates?
[22:34] <zykotick9> curlyears: is it "Permission denied" that is being listed?  "find / -iname 'lmsensor' 2>/dev/null"
[22:34] <curlyears> K1l:  I did run the updates.  lscpu tells me I am running 16.04.1 LTS
[22:34] <Xpistos> zykotick9: so do i just run "sync" or is there more to it ie target etc?
[22:34] <k1l_> curlyears: "and 153 not upgraded."
[22:34] <k1l_> curlyears: "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[22:34] <curlyears> zykotick9: no.  I tried runnning as sudo, to avoid any permissions issues
[22:35] <zykotick9> Xpistos: after it's finished, run "sync" that way all buffers will be cleared.  then just reboot, or pull the drive.
[22:35] <Xpistos> cool I will give it a shot now
[22:36] <zykotick9> curlyears: note: i have lm-sensors installed, but "find / -iname lm_sensors" doesn't find anything!  use "dpkg -L lm-sensors" to see what/where it installed stuff.
[22:36] <squinty> curlyears,  if you are looking to see what sensors are in your unit then  sudo /usr/sbin/sensors-detect   which is part of the lm-sensors package
[22:37] <curlyears> k1l:  I can't post a URL because the commmand never finishes.  It is stuck here:  WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
[22:37] <curlyears> Extracting templates from packages: 100%
[22:37] <k1l_> curlyears: run that just as it is. without piping it
[22:38] <zykotick9> curlyears: you might want to temporarilty try apt-get instead of apt.  ymmv.
[22:38] <curlyears> it finally finishedd:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/21689299/
[22:39] <fff> does apt-get compile the program?
[22:39] <dax> no
[22:39] <Xpistos> zykotick9: I am still getting the 0 bytes disk space error
[22:39] <Apachez> nice bug, if you set "turn screen off when inactive for" to "never" while you have "Lock" set to "On" and "Lock screen after" set to "10 minutes" and enabled for "Require my password when waking from suspend" the screenlock doesnt seem to apply
[22:39] <k1l_> curlyears: your alephobjects.com 3rd party repo is rubbish and that package used from there is not properly build
[22:39] <Apachez> or could be my optical mouse who is sending various small movements even if im not in the room
[22:40] <zykotick9> fff: not usually.  you can compile stuff from <foo-src> repos, but that's unusal.  it's mostly binary packages, 99.9% of the time.
[22:40] <Xpistos> zykotick9: when I try to look in the drive using disk analyzer it says permissions denied???
[22:40] <fff> use chmod
[22:41] <Greeley> curlyears have you tried apt-get clean to remove that package and have apt-get download it again?
[22:41] <curlyears> k1l:   not again???? Lulzbot automatically creats those entries in my repo lists, in order to dowload and insta;; the software necessary to support y 3D printer.
[22:41] <zykotick9> Xpistos: sorry, i wouldn't know.  but in my opinion, running anything as gui with elevated privs. is kinda insane...
[22:41] <k1l_> curlyears: if you really want to install that 3rd party package you could manually force it
[22:42] <Xpistos> k1l_: tried using the CP method with no change
[22:42] <curlyears> k1l:  yes, I suppose I could, if I knew how to dothat.   What do I  need to read?
[22:42] <fff> they will cause conflicting
[22:43] <curlyears> k1l:  and just for my elucidation, what, precisely, do you mean by "those entries are rubbish?"
[22:43] <curlyears> I am going to have to report this to alephobjects, obviously
[22:44] <fff> rubbish means trash
[22:44] <k1l_> curlyears: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libjpeg8_8d1-2_amd64.deb
[22:44] <k1l_> curlyears: see lines 84-86 from your paste
[22:45] <Xpistos> k1l_: libparted warning, the driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048, but linux says it is 512 bytes
[22:45] <k1l_> curlyears: they want to overwrite stuff that is handled by an ubuntu package. that is against .deb guidelines. they should remove the ubuntu package and install their own 3rd party version of it instead of keeping both packages on the system
[22:45] <SuperMechaCow> Xpistos: I had that error when partioning my SSDs for installation
[22:45] <Xpistos> k1l_: but I am not trying to format the usb only the hard drive
[22:46] <fff> 4.6 changed the default ext4 from 4k to 2k
[22:46] <k1l_> Xpistos: that doesnt matter. that is because the .iso image had a different sector size than the usb. but that doesnt matter
[22:47] <Xpistos> k1l_: I whiped the main drive and reformated it to one big partition 931.51 gb
[22:47] <curlyears> k1l:   ok, got it.  I can still use the software they installed, if I remove their entries fro the repo list, right?
[22:48] <Xpistos> k1l_: it is telling me ubi-* pacakges are failing, language, partman etc
[22:48] <k1l_> curlyears: i guess they had a reason to ship that version. i dont know. i would ask them and maybe force the install as i sais.
[22:48] <k1l_> *said
[22:49] <curlyears> can't ask them until tomorrow :(
[22:50] <k1l_> then do it tomorrow. as long as your system is running so far, there is no need to touch that now
[22:50] <fff> dpkg configure -a
[22:50] <k1l_> fff: no
[22:51] <SuperMechaCow> woops
[22:51] <Xpistos> k1l_: I checked in /var/log/syslog and it says errors like this over and over paste.ubuntu.com/21690676
[22:52] <Xpistos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21690676
[22:53] <k1l_> Xpistos: asus laptop?
[22:53] <chili555> Islah1: Did you get it fixed?
[22:53] <Xpistos> yes
[22:53] <Islah1> nope :( @chili555
[22:53] <Islah1> im hopeless
[22:54] <chili555> Islah1: Do you have the Ubuntu install DVD or USB?
[22:54] <Islah1> yeah on a USB i do
[22:54] <Islah1> @chili555
[22:54] <andai> Hi, how can I know if ubuntu is using the right drivers for my graphics card? I get screen tearing. In the Drivers utility there's nothing about graphics
[22:55] <dax> what card?
[22:56] <k1l_> Xpistos: sounds like a asus issue.
[22:56] <chili555> Islah1: Insert it and navigate to pool >  pool > restricted > b > bcmwl  and drag and drop the bcmwl-kernel-source .deb file to your desktop. Then...
[22:56] <k1l_> Xpistos: bug 1521173
[22:56] <SuperMechaCow> andai: did you go to the "Additional Drivers" in the "Software & Updates" utility?
[22:56] <k1l_> Xpistos: try kernel mode pci=noaer setting on startup
[22:57] <chili555> Islah1: do the same with pool > main > d > dkms and drag and drop the dkms .deb file to your desktop. Next...
[22:57] <Xpistos> k1l_: clicked on edit the startup, should I just drop that at the bottom?
[22:57] <chili555> Islah1: Install them both by right-clicking and allowing the Software Center to install.
[22:58] <Islah1> GDebi package installer
[22:58] <zykotick9> andai: does "lspci -v | grep -i vga" say you have Intel?  if so, you're probably using the right driver (from the kernel).  i don't think i've ever had "no tearing" in my years with various graphics cards/setups under X.  ymmmv?
[22:58] <Islah1> will that work?
[22:58] <k1l_> !nomodeset | Xpistos do it like described in this link just with pci=noaer instead of nomodeset
[22:58] <Islah1> @chili555
[22:58] <chili555> Islah1: It should, but I'll help you if there is a snag.
[22:59] <Islah1> (I dont have software center cause im on lubuntu) :P
[22:59] <Islah1> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: gcc
[22:59] <andai> zykotick9: Yep! Then I guess my integrated card is just too crappy for 3D acceleration on VMWare
[22:59] <Islah1> @chili555
[22:59] <chili555> Islah1: you can install from the terminal: cd ~/Desktop
[22:59] <chili555> Islah1: sudo dpkg -i dkms*.deb
[23:00] <chili555> Islah1: sudo dpkg -i bcmwl-kernel-source*.deb and then reboot.
[23:00] <Islah1> got an error when trying to install dkms @chili555
[23:01] <chili555> Islah1: Uhhhh, what is it??
[23:01] <Xpistos> k1l_: I added it right after the quiet splash and lets see what we get
[23:01] <Islah1> dkms depends on gcc; however; gcc is not installed. dkms depends on make | build-essential | dpkg-dev; however; package make is not installed. Package build-essential is not installed. Package dpkg-dev is not installed
[23:02] <Islah1> @chili555
[23:02] <k1l_> Xpistos: yeah. that was the reason for the full disk. it was making that much errors in the logs, that the live system ran out of space
[23:02] <Xpistos> k1l_: I am already further along!!! Thanks I will report back
[23:03] <chili555> Islah1: All those things are already installed on plain old Ubuntu. Are you sure lubuntu is good for you? Or else, are you certain you can't get an ethernet connection for a few moments? From a friend?
[23:03] <Xpistos> k1l_: crap. happened again. but atleast I have an idea of where this maybe be going
[23:04] <Islah1> The laptop im using (notebook) doesn't have an ethernet port
[23:04] <Islah1> Or else i would have used it long ago
[23:04] <Islah1> I just want a lightweight distro for this thing :(
[23:05] <Xpistos> k1l_: same crap but I will keep searching
[23:05] <lordcirth> Islah1, there are USB-to-Ethernet adapters, if you're ok with spending $20.
[23:05] <lordcirth> Or borrowing one
[23:05] <Islah1> I'll have to see if any friends have one, anyone else know of another good lightweight distro?
[23:06] <chili555> Islah1: The only thing left is to go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and get all those packages, build-essential, gcc, make, etc. appropriate to your Ubuntu version and architecture (32- or 64-bit) and install each one. Sorry.
[23:06] <lordcirth> Islah1,BunsenLabs
[23:06]  * zykotick9 has wanted a usb->ethernet for quite a while, he's never actually seen one to purchase, in real life (and be able to confirm it would work with only free drivers) :(
[23:06] <chili555> Islah1: You might try xubuntu.
[23:06] <lordcirth> zykotick9, I've only used them at work
[23:06] <Islah1> is xubuntu lightweight? @chili555
[23:07] <fff> broadcom might work
[23:07] <lordcirth> Islah1, lubuntu's lxde is lighter than xubuntu's xfce, but it is still quite light.
[23:07] <Islah1> Alright, ill look at it. This little notebook only has 2GB of ram
[23:07] <Islah1> so i want it as light as possible =p
[23:07] <Xpistos> k1l_: that bug was posted to as recently as yesterday so I will follow it and hopefully there will be a solution soon. Thanks again!
[23:07] <fff> mate uses around 600mb of ram
[23:08] <lordcirth> Islah1, https://www.bunsenlabs.org/
[23:08] <lordcirth> Or Arch with Openbox or a tiling WM :P
[23:08] <chili555> Islah1: yes, I use it on a 32-bit old Thinkpad and it runs very well with its wheezing CPU fan which threatens to die every day!
[23:08] <k1l_> Xpistos: i would look if there is some bios update for that machine
[23:08] <Islah1> Alright, ill try them both =p
[23:08] <Islah1> thanks for helping atleast :)
[23:08] <lordcirth> Islah1, VM's are your friend!  (On your desktop, obv)
[23:09] <brenda> Hi, I have am intel Celeron notebook, what is the less CPU intensive way to watch Youtube hd videos?
[23:09] <fff> enlightenment
[23:09] <Xpistos> k1l_: will do. It has been wiped so may be hard to get the flash to go
[23:09] <chili555> Islah1: And then I removed everything I thought I wouldn't need, mailreader, etc.
[23:09] <Islah1> Yeah i only intend on using it for light browsing/coding
[23:09] <Islah1> and taking notes in class
[23:09] <ross`> can someone tell me why the xen installer kernel/ramdisk segfaults during dhcp configuration?
[23:10] <fff> or icewm
[23:11] <chili555> Islah1: Good luck, my friend!
[23:12] <lordcirth> brenda, running them in a browser doesn't work?  You could use youtube-dl to download them, then play them with vlc
[23:13] <fff> wget
[23:14] <brenda> lordcirth, in Chrome and Firefox I get a CPU load of 80-100%
[23:14] <lordcirth> brenda, yeah, try youtube-dl
[23:16] <brenda> lordcirth, mpv installs youtube-dl... but I do not get it to work...
[23:16] <lordcirth> brenda, using it through mpv, or by itself?
[23:17] <brenda> lordcirth, mpv link --no-video give me a lot of youtube-dl errors
[23:17] <fff> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/download-youtube/
[23:17] <brenda> lordcirth, que mpv
[23:18] <fff> downloads as mp4
[23:18] <lordcirth> brenda, so you only want the audio to play?
[23:18] <brenda> lordcirth, with mpv
[23:18] <brenda> lordcirth, no, audio and video
[23:19] <lordcirth> brenda, then why --no-video ?
[23:19] <Xpistos> k1l_: Bios is current as of 2013. just have to wait and see what comes out of bug report
[23:20] <brenda> fff, it is nice to download some videos but it is not what I want
[23:21] <brenda> lordcirth, acording to man mpv --no-video sends the link to be procesed by youtube-dl
[23:21] <bytesaber> does Conanical dislike projects such as lubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu-gnome ?
[23:22] <brenda> lordcirth, am I doing it wrong?
[23:22] <lordcirth> {l,k,x}buntu are official
[23:22] <lordcirth> brenda, yes, --no-video is sound-only, like for music videos
[23:22] <bytesaber> lordcirth, I was actually googling trying to find somekind of "stance" or statement on that.  By chance know of something that helps claim that?
[23:23] <lordcirth> brenda, however, it's not working for me either, looks like yt changed their formats.  There's a new version of youtube-dl that's not packaged yet
[23:23] <OerHeks> bytesaber, strange question, those are official supported.
[23:23] <OerHeks> !flavor
[23:23] <bytesaber> Trying to comprehend what the difference between Xubuntu, and Ubuntu with XFCE installed, is.
[23:23] <toxik> There's different software used
[23:23] <toxik> That's about it
[23:24] <bytesaber> In the end, wouldn't it be the same in either case?
[23:24] <z0ran> 16.04 is totally awesome, it doesnt use at all cpu like 14.04 use to and it is easy on ram too....great job!
[23:24] <bytesaber> Xubuntu 14, out of the can, seems to have a different menu bar, than Ubuntu with XFCE installed after install.
[23:24] <jottr> Hi all. On ubuntu what does echo $OS_TYPE return?
[23:25] <jottr> s/$OS_TYPE/$OSTYPE
[23:25] <lordcirth> Kylin is official? Interesting
[23:25] <Islah1> Installing xubuntu, hopefully it works :)
[23:25] <lordcirth> jottr, linux-gnu
[23:25] <jottr> lordcirth: thx
[23:25] <toxik> I've had very few problems with Xubuntu
[23:26] <brenda> lordcirth, YT does that once in while :-/
[23:26] <lordcirth> z0ran, and most importantly, ZFS support!
[23:26] <bytesaber> Or better yet, why wouldn't it be something like www.ubuntu.org/xubuntu   /lubuntu   ..etc
[23:26] <z0ran> I know....totally rocks
[23:26] <z0ran> I canto
[23:27] <lordcirth> bytesaber, as opposed to what?
[23:27] <z0ran> I cannot believe how big diference is on my cpu
[23:27] <lordcirth> Oh, instead of websites
[23:27] <z0ran> that is unbelievable
[23:28] <z0ran> and I have ff, chromium, chrome and vbox running
[23:28] <z0ran> such a great job they did this time....bravo!
[23:28] <bytesaber> lordcirth, They jsut all feel like fan websites / projects, following ubuntu's work.   It's not a complaint.  Just trying to grasp what's going on in the world.
[23:30] <toxik> 16.04 is absolutely rock solid, and it makes me extremely happy
[23:31] <Islah1> aaaaand xubuntu didnt recognize drivers either :( @chili555
[23:31] <Islah1> sweet
[23:31] <lordcirth> brenda, I got it working!
[23:31] <lordcirth> brenda, I installed pip and used pip to install the latest youtube-dl
[23:32] <robotbeta> I am using Lubuntu Netbook on this 2002 Sony PCG-FXA63. I feel content with life.
[23:32] <Islah1> time to try your suggestion @lordcirth
[23:32] <bytesaber> linux and ssd's.  giving live to old PC's
[23:32] <bytesaber> life
[23:32] <brenda> lordcirth, I was thinking of doing the same thing :)
[23:33] <robotbeta> I am going to upgrade the hard drive, ram, and maybe the CPU.
[23:33] <brenda> lordcirth, what is the pip command for downloading the latest version?
[23:33] <lordcirth> robotbeta, that model allows cpu upgrades?
[23:33] <robotbeta> Then, I will go try updating to 14.04 (I am at 12.04)
[23:33] <lordcirth> brenda, pip install youtube-dl
[23:33] <robotbeta> I am looking into it.
[23:34] <robotbeta> I am sure.
[23:34] <brenda> lordcirth, what is 2 simple :)
[23:34] <robotbeta> You just gotta make sure you know what you are doing.
[23:34] <lordcirth> robotbeta, if you're upgrading from 12, and replacing the harddrive, why not just fresh install 16.04?
[23:34] <robotbeta> Well, I don't want to rush in.
[23:34] <robotbeta> I see what is going to be best.
[23:35] <lordcirth> I don't see any reason to install 14.04 when 16.04.1 is out
[23:35] <robotbeta> The computer is old.
[23:35] <robotbeta> 14 years
[23:36] <Islah1> alright lets give burner a try @lordcith
[23:36] <lordcirth> robotbeta, z0ran was just saying that 16.04 was faster than 14.04 for him.
[23:36] <robotbeta> Oh.
[23:36] <robotbeta> Yeah.
[23:36] <lordcirth> robotbeta, but if it's 14 years old, I'd be using Xubuntu.
[23:37] <lordcirth> Although I question the value of a CPU upgrade to a computer that old.
[23:37] <toxik> Xubuntu, or alternatively Lubuntu
[23:37] <robotbeta> I like Lubuntu best.
[23:37] <lordcirth> Anything compatible with it will be nearly as old and have to find
[23:37] <lordcirth> s/have/hard
[23:37] <robotbeta> I found the processor, in the same family as it.
[23:38] <Islah1> for install should i do normal install or graphical install @lordcirth
[23:38] <Islah1> for bunsenlabs
[23:38] <toxik> Can you unmount it from the socket, though?
[23:38] <robotbeta> But it still is an upgrade by 333 mega hertz
[23:38] <lordcirth> Islah1, may as well do graphical.  It's just a standard debian installer
[23:38] <Islah1> ah ok
[23:38] <lordcirth> robotbeta, from what?
[23:38] <robotbeta> It is an AMD processor 1.4 giga hertz
[23:38] <robotbeta> right now
[23:39] <lordcirth> from 1.4 to 1.7Ghz?  Not sure that's worth the money and hassle
[23:39] <toxik> If anything, I would recommend just getting a SSD if you haven't already
[23:40] <robotbeta> I don't think I can.
[23:40] <toxik> What model is your laptop again?
[23:40] <robotbeta> 2002 Sony PCG-FXA63
[23:40] <robotbeta> Originally came with Windows XP.
[23:41] <zykotick9> toxik: the SSD upgrade is always fantastic (assuming the system has sata to do it!) much better than cpu or ram IMO.
[23:41] <robotbeta> From what I have researched, it can only do HDD.
[23:41] <zykotick9> robotbeta: :(
[23:41] <robotbeta> I have only found HDDs
[23:42] <z0ran> ssd goes with fast cpu for best results
[23:42] <z0ran> intel cpu
[23:42] <ross`> why does the xen install kernel keep segfaulting at random times?!?
[23:42] <robotbeta> I have an AMD.
[23:42] <robotbeta> hueheuehue
[23:42] <ross`> xenial
[23:42] <robotbeta> AMD Athlon, which is 32 bit.
[23:42] <z0ran> amd is to slow...i know the diference when i get i7 from amd
[23:42] <robotbeta> I like AMDs personally.
[23:43] <z0ran> that is huge difference
[23:43] <Islah1> Doesnt look like bunsenlabs will detect my network hardware either @lordcirth :(
[23:43] <toxik> AMD will compete with Intel on performance soon
[23:43] <z0ran> i mean hugeee....like i was in stone age with amd
[23:43] <lordcirth> z0ran, there are fast AMD CPUs too.
[23:43] <robotbeta> There are.
[23:43] <z0ran> not like intel....not even close
[23:43] <lordcirth> I am waiting for Zen to come out next year to build my new PC.
[23:43]  * zykotick9 is stuck with intel pre-i3 cause he doesn't want any ME stuff :(
[23:44] <z0ran> i7 is king of cpu....trust me i jad amd for long time
[23:44] <lordcirth> zykotick9, management engine?
[23:44] <robotbeta> AMD makes some good things.
[23:44] <zykotick9> lordcirth: yup.
[23:44] <robotbeta> I am gonna go.
[23:44] <z0ran> cost money but it is worth every dime
[23:44] <toxik> robotbeta: After doing some research onto your laptop, I think you'd be better off to buy a new laptop than try to upgrade yours.
[23:44] <brenda> z0ran, u r right, SSD performance on AMD chipset is not as good as INte┬┤
[23:44] <brenda> intel
[23:45] <toxik> I don't see any noticeable difference between my i5 build and my fx-8350 with SSD's
[23:45] <lordcirth> zykotick9, have you looked at ARM64?
[23:46] <lordcirth> SATA speed is not bound by CPU manufacturer
[23:46] <lordcirth> NVMe, maybe.
[23:46] <z0ran> uuu
[23:47] <Islah1> I might just have to install windows @lordcirth and see if it is a network card issue
[23:48] <z0ran> intel skylike i7 and nvme...that is something
[23:48] <toxik> What's your problem, Islah1?
[23:48] <zykotick9> lordcirth: not really.  i have an "ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)" powering my irc box ;)  it's a Beagle Bone Black (bbb).  i don't think any of the arm64 boards meet my freedom requirement right now :(
[23:48] <Islah1> toxik it seems no linux distros i've tried today will recognize my broadcom network card (Im on a notebook laptop with no ethernet port)
[23:48] <Islah1> ive tried lubuntu, xubuntu, and now bunsenlabs
[23:49] <Islah1> but other distros like ElementaryOS recognized it just fine
[23:49] <toxik> Just wondering, have you tried a a WiFi dongle?
[23:50] <toxik> They're great for fixing driver issues. Absolute lifesaver
[23:50] <Islah1> I had one but i cant find it :s
[23:50] <Islah1> ill look around for it
[23:52] <lordcirth> zykotick9, there's also the RISC-V project, you should keep an eye on that
[23:53] <zykotick9> lordcirth: thanks.  but this is OT for #ubuntu ;)  ps. i keep my ear close to the ground on those things
[23:53] <brenda> lordcirth, I installed pip and installed the latest youtube.dl and it now works also for me
[23:54] <brenda> lordcirth, thank u 4 that tip
[23:54] <lordcirth> brenda, np.  Saw it on youtube-dl github
[23:55] <zykotick9> brenda: fyi, you certainly don't need pip to install the latest youtube.dl, it's just a script you can drop in ~/bin
[23:55] <lordcirth> zykotick9, yeah, they apparently recommend pip though.  updates and so on
[23:57] <Islah1> hey @toxik
[23:57] <zykotick9> lordcirth: while i see there point.  i don't really believe it's a good idea to have to conflicting packages managers on one system (my only exception to that rule was a brief experiment with Guix).
[23:57] <Islah1> i may have found a USB to ethernet cord
[23:57] <Islah1> would that work possibly
[23:57] <lordcirth> Islah1, hopefully
[23:57] <zykotick9> lordcirth: s/good idea to have to/good idea to have two/
[23:58] <ross`> can someone please please please tell me why the xenial xen installer kernel and ramdisk keep segfaulting at different random times during the installation process
[23:58] <ross`> I have tried to install ubuntu 8 times now
[23:59] <ross`> and it keeps segfaulting at different parts
[23:59] <toxik> Have you tried flashing a new image to install it yet?
[23:59] <ross`> flashing a new image?
[23:59] <Ben64> ross`: sounds like a bad image or bad hardware