[03:49] <BlaenkDenum> adante: then it's up to xemacs, go to the menus, there might be a paste function
[03:50] <johnny_01> I hope it was not gnome x
[03:50] <adante> s -e | grep $PROG | grep -v grep | wc -l | awk '{print $1}'
[03:50] <nickrud> mitch: then you didn't get fglrx installed with modprobe. reboot for simplicity,
[03:50] <BlaenkDenum> adante: or do what I said, right click on the body of xemacs and see if there's any paste option
[03:50] <deuryte> xchat 64bit
[03:50] <adante> BlaenkDenum: there is, it pastes the internal kill-ring
[03:50] <hvgotcodes> i just downloaded a ttf font; how do i install it?
[03:50] <adante> BlaenkDenum: which is NOT what i copied from firefox :]
[03:50] <Wolf23> someone help please
[03:50] <BlaenkDenum> !ttf
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ttf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <heguru> hvgotcodes: just copy to /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[03:50] <BlaenkDenum> adante: internal kill-ring?
[03:50] <darkhack> Hey all
[03:50] <thinkl00p> hrmmm weird, somehow the skins don't work, same with installing xmms-skins from synaptic, none of them show up
[03:51] <nickrud> adante: doesn't hightlight the text in firefox, press middle button in xemacs work?
[03:51] <darkhack> Did anyone here test out the new ati driver?
[03:51] <BlaenkDenum> adante: try and re-copy what you copied from firefox, but yeah, it's xemac's fault that that's not working not linux', try the emacs channel
[03:51] <nickrud> darkhack: yes
[03:51] <curi0> nobody here has a geforce FX 5900XT
[03:51] <adante> BlaenkDenum: in emacs f you kill stuff with c-w it puts it inan interal key ring
[03:51] <ztomic> anyone like XFS?
[03:51] <curi0> wow this card sucks
[03:51] <Atomic_UE> hvgotcodes, from memory you just need to double click on it, it'll bring up a preview and there should be a button to install it
did it work for yaa?
[03:51] <adante> nickrud: doesn't seem to be.. my mouse i 2 button and i have tried pressing both at once but it's not working
[03:51] <BlaenkDenum> adante: Yeah, sorry about that but I'm a vim-er :P try the emacs channel though I'm sure they can help
[03:51] <Wolf23> helpers?
[03:51] <FluxD> zocky: I guess not :/
[03:51] <DanaG> Dang, my laptop soooo needs a better hostname.
[03:51] <adante> BlaenkDenum: lol okay, thanks for trying though, appreciated
[03:52] <FluxD> Wolf23: ask ur question
[03:52] <nickrud> darkhack: yes, but not well on my 200m. But aiglx does work
[03:52] <DanaG> Linux m685 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:52] <ztomic> Wolf23: just ask and ye shall receive.
[03:52] <bqmassey> am i right in thinking that /home is like 'My Documents'
[03:52] <BlaenkDenum> adante: http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=how%20to%20paste%20into%20xemacs
[03:52] <FluxD> bqmassey: pretty much
how your video playback?
[03:52] <nickrud> adante: do you have emulate3buttons true in xorg.conf?
[03:52] <Evanlec> DanaG, thats not ur hostname, thats ur kernel version....
[03:52] <Wolf23> FluxD thanx
[03:52] <FluxD> bqmassey: more like Documents and settings/ur username
[03:52] <Wolf23> ztomic thanx , i got it :)
[03:52] <nickrud> bqmassey: no. home is like /Users in vista
[03:52] <bqmassey> FluxD: ah. perfect
[03:53] <s9760422> hello?
[03:53] <Creedence> bqmassey, /home/username is more like my docs
[03:53] <s9760422> hello?
[03:53] <IntuitiveNipple> bqmassey: /home/ is more like /Documents and Settings/ - /home/$USER/ is more like /Documents and Settings/$USER/My Documents/
[03:53] <DanaG> 'm685' is my hostname.
[03:53] <Creedence> bqmassey, /home is more like c:\documents and settings
[03:53] <heguru> !hi | s9760422
[03:53] <ubotu> s9760422: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:53] <darkhack> <  I think ati 8.42.3 has some bug issue so I'm waiting awhile for the next release
[03:53] <dkf> /proc/bus/usb/ ... is empty; how do I fix this
[03:53] <bqmassey> Creedence, IntuitiveNipple, nickrud, FluxD:  awesome.. thank you
[03:53] <nickrud> darkhack: I didn't keep it when I realized the cube was jerky, not smooth.
[03:54] <WorkingOnWise> is ther a program like network magic for linux. it's a graphical network discovery and management program that shows objects on the network and details about them.
[03:54] <bqmassey> cube is overrated
[03:54] <s9760422> the cube? as in cube workspace?
[03:54] <FluxD> WorkingOnWise: simple anser no
[03:54] <hvgotcodes> ok guys i copied the .ttf file to the user share fonts
[03:54] <nickrud> bqmassey: but expose is very useful, and I love dodge window movement
[03:54] <hvgotcodes> i tried double clicking on it but no dice
[03:55] <darkhack> ati 8.43 will release sometime soon
[03:55] <s9760422> i love hacking mac os x lol
[03:55] <aoirthoi1> anyway by chance to change the Volume display for human back to the tiny volume display?
[03:55] <Twan> How could I just shut down an ubuntu server forever
[03:55] <heguru> hvgotcodes: you don't have to double click at it, just goto any program which uses fonts like OpenOffice and it should be in the list of fonts
[03:55] <nickrud> darkhack: I hope you're right, and I'm actually hopeful about ati drivers for the first time ever
[03:55] <FluxD> Twan rm -r /
[03:55] <zocky> Twan, use a hammer
[03:55] <Twan> rm -r
[03:55] <bqmassey> nickrud: i agree 100%... if you want four desktops cube get's its.. butt.. kicked by the one where they're 2x2 in a plane
[03:55] <Twan> Or rm -r /
[03:55] <zcat[1]> Twan: yes > /dev/hda
[03:56] <DemonJester> twan, unplug it :-P
[03:56] <hvgotcodes> heguru: do i need to restart x?
[03:56] <Twan> i only have ssh
[03:56] <Twan> not plug acces
[03:56] <hvgotcodes> or update font-cache or somehting?
[03:56] <heguru> hvgotcodes: no
[03:56] <KNY> it's not possible to open an existing Windows install in vmware under ubuntu, is it?
[03:56] <jrib> Twan: do not do that
[03:56] <heguru> hvgotcodes: nothing
[03:56] <bqmassey> nickrud: ... and have Super + Up/Down/Left/Right move you around or Expose
[03:56] <hvgotcodes> hmm
[03:56] <heguru> hvgotcodes: just restart the application
[03:56] <zcat[1]> sudo halt if you just want to shut it down / off
ati open source only been a few on old since amd release the code, so it will take awhile
[03:56] <heguru> hvgotcodes: did you copy it to /usr/share/fonts/truetype ?
[03:56] <nickrud> bqmassey: yes, I think finally linus will be satisfied with the configurability of a gnome window manager ;)
[03:56] <Jordan_U> jrib, He wants to "shut down an Ubuntu server forever" so I don't think it's a bad way to do it :)
[03:56] <ztomic> Twan's a smart guy.
[03:56] <Twan> rm -r /
[03:56] <Atomic_UE> KNY, yes
[03:57] <BlaenkDenum> amd is only working on drivers for the new cards and later, not the older ones
[03:57] <Twan> What's rm
[03:57] <Twan> remove
[03:57] <Jordan_U> KNY, It is possible
[03:57] <FluxD> I hope Twan's plan backfires :p
[03:57] <hvgotcodes> ok it works
[03:57] <Jordan_U> Twan, Yes
[03:57] <hvgotcodes> thanx
[03:57] <KNY> I'll google for more info, thanks
[03:57] <mitch> nickrud: lsmod still returns nothing
[03:57] <darkhack> Anyway, I'm off doing more testing
[03:57] <darkhack> later all
[03:57] <bqmassey> nickrud: who's Linus?
[03:57] <zcat[1]> Twan: who's server?
[03:57] <curi0> Does anyone have glx direct rendering yes for their nvidia gforce fx 5900xt graphics card? I'm trying to complete this step so that I can successfully run compiz and awn.
[03:57] <aoirthoi1> me too:)
[03:57] <nickrud> mitch: then I have no clue why it's not going in.
[03:57] <Twan> My Computer Science class server.
[03:57] <nickrud> bqmassey: torvalds
[03:57] <bqmassey> nickrud: kidding :D
[03:57] <ztomic> Twan: #man rm
[03:57] <nickrud> bqmassey: got me ;PP
[03:57] <Twan> I'm not going to kill it, but honestly what are some cool things I could do with it?
[03:58] <zcat[1]> Twan: you have access to root on it?
[03:58] <FluxD> bqmassey: linux creator
[03:58] <Twan> I want to like send global messags throughout everyone's console.
[03:58] <Twan> Yea I do su root and I have the password.
[03:58] <zcat[1]> echo "You all suck" | wall
[03:58] <KNY> Jordan_U, is it easy to do or is it one of those "theoretically possible" things? :)
[03:58] <Twan> Will that send it to EVERYONE logged into root?
[03:58] <jrib> Twan: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[03:58] <Jordan_U> Twan, Doesn't sound like you are doing this on your own machine...
[03:58] <Twan> Yes i was interested in echo "You all suck" | wall
[03:58] <bqmassey> nickrud: i am a newbie.. so it'd be fair.. but this is the third time i've been a newbie... tried debian like...  5 years ago and hated it, tried suse like 2 years ago and liked it but not enough to use it, and now Ubunt
[03:58] <jrib> !offtopic | Twan
[03:58] <ubotu> Twan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:58] <Atomic_UE> KNY, from memory after you've installed vmware server (if that's what you're using) then you just need to make sure that the owner/group/permissions are correct for whoever is going to use it, then just open it the vmware server console app
[03:59] <KNY> hmm
[03:59] <beorwulf> echo "testing this" | wall
[03:59] <Twan> Well does echo "Test" | wall send a message to everyone's console?
[03:59] <orkid_> I have a problem with usplash. It does not display on boot. I have set usplash.conf resolution to 1024 x 768, which my laptop's LCD supports. What else could be the problem? (Radeon M 7500)
[03:59] <FluxD> Twan: go google
[03:59] <zcat[1]> Twan: man wall
[03:59] <orkid_> (gutsy)
[03:59] <Jordan_U> Twan, Yes
[03:59] <Atomic_UE> KNY, owner/group/permissions are correct for the OS directory/files *
[03:59] <nickrud> bqmassey: I started with debian about 7 years ago, it lived on my machine for about an hour :) Switched to redhat, did the lfs route for about a year, then came back to debian. Have never left since
[03:59] <Evanlec> nickrud, do you have any control over ubotu ?
[03:59] <Twan> What's the difference between wall and man wall
[03:59] <bqmassey> nickrud: hahaha
[03:59] <nickrud> Evanlec: no
[03:59] <ztomic> omg
[04:00] <orkid_> usplash, anyone?
[04:00] <tostig> i am running ubuntu 7.10 AMD64 edition and i've noticed an awful lot of applications claiming i386 incompatiblity.. is ubuntu x64 incapable of running most 32 bit applications (examples are google desktop and avg's anti-virus)
[04:00] <dstadulis> what directory contains all of my mounted devices, cdrom1 or any usb devices?
[04:00] <nickrud> Evanlec: I'm just a nobody too
[04:00] <FluxD> dstadulis: /media
[04:00] <dstadulis> FluxD: ty
[04:00] <Evanlec> nickrud, oh ok, thot u were an op
[04:00] <zcat[1]> I'd suggest do something subtle but evilly difficult to figure out in the boot process, and then halt it.. see how long they take to figure out what you did.
[04:00] <thinkl00p> whats this Vu-meter plugin you need for xmms for certain skins?
[04:00] <mitch> nickrud: maybe it didn;t install properly...cause i see the ATI Catalyst Control center doesn;t function anymore
[04:00] <FluxD> thinkl00p: fancy meter like thing
[04:01] <zcat[1]> like change the UUID a little bit in grub..
[04:01] <Jordan_U> Twan, cat /dev/urandom | wall & killall cat
[04:01] <tostig> i suppose i may have to download the 32 bit version and use that for maximum compatibility, but i hate to give up the 64 bit speed.. does anyone have any suggestions? is it possible to install i386 .deb packages on ubuntu x64?
[04:01] <Twan> what's cat
[04:01] <thinkl00p> FluxD is it pavumeter in synaptic?
[04:01] <Atomic_UE> KNY, #vmware should be able to give you more accurate info on your vmware needs
[04:01] <FluxD> thinkl00p: I dont know
[04:01] <thinkl00p> oh ok
[04:01] <nickrud> mitch: that command is the only thing I saw left out of that blog I pointed you at ..
[04:01] <KNY> Atomic_UE, thanks a lot. I'll look around
[04:01] <fluffman> what are some generic xorg device drivers I can try?
[04:01] <Jordan_U> !terminal | Twan
[04:01] <ubotu> Twan: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[04:02] <mitch> nickrud: which command?
[04:02] <`eric-> tostig: is 64bit really that much faster?
[04:02] <Jordan_U> fluffman, vesa
[04:02] <nickrud> mitch: the ln -s
[04:02] <Atomic_UE> KNY, no worries :)
[04:02] <fluffman> Jordan_U: thanks, is that all?
[04:02] <nickrud> mitch: some howtos have it, others don't. I needed it.
[04:02] <leo_rockw> hello everyone, i have a question regarding a cd drive... how do i find out which one it is inside /dev?
[04:02] <orkid_> I have a problem with usplash. It does not display on boot. I have set usplash.conf resolution to 1024 x 768, which my laptop's LCD supports. What else could be the problem? (Radeon M 7500)
[04:02] <orkid_> (gutsy)
[04:02] <deuryte> johhnny 01
[04:02] <tostig> `eric-: i guess i am not sure?  i have only used the 64 bit version.. i read somewhere that 7.10 really showed differences between the 32 and 64 editions
[04:02] <Twan> How hard would a wordpress installation be on Ubuntu?
[04:02] <Jordan_U> fluffman, That is the only one that will work for any GPU
[04:03] <dkf> I plug in my usb device. dmesg tells me it's at sdb1; I don't see it at /dev/sdb1, but I do see /sys/block/sdb/sdb1 ... which is a directory ... how can I mount this usb device?
[04:03] <mitch> nickrud: so can i uninstall and try it all again?
[04:03] <Twan> The Apache2 server is up and running
[04:03] <Twan> Could I do like sudo apt-get wordpress
[04:03] <musikgoat> leo_rockw: cat proc/partitions  ??
[04:03] <Twan> And then it automatically installs it in a directory
[04:03] <nickrud> leo_rockw: ls -l /dev/hd* /dev/sd* ; the one that's in the cdrom group
[04:03] <jrib> Twan: something like that
[04:03] <musikgoat> sorry  /proc/partitions
[04:03] <zcat[1]> Twan: try apt-cache search wordpress and see if there's a package for it
[04:03] <jrib> !apt > Twan (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:03] <fluffman> ok new problem then.  my screen is boxed in.  like, the actual display area only takes up about 3/4 of the monitor, with a huge black box around it.
[04:04] <nickrud> mitch: sure. I uninstalled it and went back to ati. Start at the bottom of the howto, and uninstall each deb as you go
[04:04] <jrib> fluffman: laptop?
[04:04] <fluffman> yes, jrib
[04:04] <Jordan_U> fluffman, Then you should use drivers for your specific card
[04:04] <Jordan_U> fluffman, What GPU?
[04:04] <leo_rockw> musikgoat, nickrud, that only shows sda...
[04:04] <mitch> nickrud: give me that complete command again
[04:04] <ugi> how do i get the plugin in firefox to work
[04:04] <Enul232> can someone help me get ppp working right please?
[04:04] <zcat[1]> !gpu
[04:04] <tostig> would most people here not recommend the 64 bit version?
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <fluffman> it loaded "neomagic" drivers on an old PII/celeron
[04:04] <mitch> nickrud: i'll try it again
[04:04] <Jordan_U> !ppp | Enul232
[04:04] <ubotu> Enul232: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[04:04] <bqmassey> for the main ext3/swap i add a "logical" partition as a container, and then put both of them in it?
[04:05] <leo_rockw> musikgoat, nickrud: i know mine is a scd0... this is for a friend
[04:05] <zcat[1]> Graphical Processing Unit : the chip that makes your video work..
[04:05] <jrib> fluffman: my inspiron does that.  There is an Fn key I press for it to stretch, but you probably want to make sure you are using the right resolution
[04:05] <ugi> does anyone here have videos play in firefox?
[04:05] <leo_rockw> idk... i always knew mine was scd0, i don't know how i found out
[04:05] <fluffman> jrib: this is a latitude :D
[04:05] <orkid_> sigh
[04:05] <jrib> tostig: I would not recommend 64bit
[04:05] <Jordan_U> ugi, I would guess almost everyone
[04:05] <jrib> fluffman: well should be similar
[04:05] <nickrud> mitch: cd  /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/volatile && sudo ln -s ../misc/fglrx.ko
[04:05] <fluffman> that I'm borrowing
[04:05] <ugi> they never play in mine
[04:05] <fluffman> which f-key is it?
[04:06] <Twan> I actually DON'T have access to the server right now, could I check for apt-cache search online?
[04:06] <zcat[1]> ugi: easiest way is just run easyubuntu.. check the box for playing videos in firefox and it'll sort it all out for you :)
[04:06] <nomasteryoda> ugi, with the mplayer mozilla plugin... and nonfree flash
[04:06] <tostig> ok, i guess ill download the 32 bit version.. i suppose it isnt worth the hassle
[04:06] <tostig> thanks everyone
[04:06] <Jordan_U> ugi, Right click, choose "play in movie player"
[04:06] <openedu> I have no colors in my console.  commands like LS don't use any colors.  emacs is monotone.  Help!
[04:06] <jrib> fluffman: don't have it next to me atm, but pretty sure it was fn-fN where N was one of 6,7, or 8
[04:06] <gabriel_> i have problem with avi videos in ubuntu gutsy. Somebody can help me?
[04:06] <mikubuntu> hey everybody, have a look at how comcast is blocking certain kinds of webtraffic: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21376597/
[04:06] <ugi> There is no plugin to handle this movie.
[04:06] <ugi> =*(
[04:06] <zcat[1]> Twan: suggest you set up linux dual-boot on your home machine and get familiar with it, you'll think of some fun things to do along the way.
[04:07] <johnny_01> there
[04:07] <fluffman> ok thank you :D
[04:07] <Twan> Ok, will check into that later.
[04:07] <fluffman> I think I might be able to get it now
[04:07] <leo_rockw> musikgoat, nickrud: ok, i did ls -l /dev/cd* and that told me which one it is. thank you very much for your help
[04:07] <Twan> But can you tell me how to do an apt-cache search online?
[04:07] <zcat[1]> !info wordpress
[04:07] <ubotu> wordpress: an award winning weblog manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.2-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 783 kB, installed size 4196 kB
[04:07] <Twan> I do see http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/wordpress
[04:07] <Jordan_U> ugi, Is this a normal format like mpeg4 or something in an avi container?
[04:07] <jrib> Twan: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:07] <nickrud> leo_rockw: heh, shortcuts are you :)
[04:07] <FluxD> Twan: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:07] <deuryte> 32 bit is sooooo 20-20 hind sight...
[04:07] <Twan> So if I type in console tomorrow sudo apt-get install wordpress
[04:07] <Eagle_101> Hi, when attempting to dowload plugins for thunderbird through the "get extensions" link with ubuntu gusty gibben, it says the extensions are not compatable. The extension I was attempting to use is https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/1832 on thunderbird <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:08] <Twan> It will take me through a full wordpress installation?
[04:08] <Evanlec> tostig, you'd be wrong about that
[04:08] <zcat[1]> Twan: I just searched for you; yes apt-get install wordpress should work..
[04:08] <Twan> But then how hard will it be to install the package
[04:08] <tostig> evanlec, be wrong about what?
[04:08] <Twan> Because I know I have to give it MySQL database locations and all that
[04:08] <Twan> I've only installed through the web before
[04:08] <zcat[1]> .. but you'll probably need to set up a link somewhere and do some basic configuration before you can connect to it.
[04:08] <jrib> Twan: try to keep what you say on a single line, or else the channel becomes too busy
[04:09] <Evanlec> tostig, about not installing 64-bit
[04:09] <Twan> zcat: The link will just be setup in a wordpress.conf file probably, correct?
[04:09] <Jordan_U> ugi, Can you give an example of a site that does not work for you?
[04:09] <Certified13> hello, i'm having trouble assigning certain functions to keys... specifically my mouse buttons.  Anyone able to help?
[04:09] <mitch>  nickrud" thanks
[04:09] <tostig> evanlec, im running it right now.. since i couldnt install a lot of things i wanted to use because of it complaining about i386 i dont see how i am particularly wrong...
[04:09] <mitch> nickrud: thanks
[04:09] <nickrud> mitch: success?
[04:09] <ztomic> yes. 2 lines is too much
[04:10] <FluxD> Jordan_U: foxnews.com flash sound works but no video
[04:10] <zcat[1]> Twan: no idea. I never set up wordpress. But for phpbb I had to make a link from /var/www to the phpbb install.
[04:10] <ztomic> no more than one line please
[04:10] <mitch> nickrud: i'm gonna uninstall and try t again
[04:10] <jrib> !mouse > Certified13 (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:10] <nickrud> mitch: ok
[04:10] <Twan> ok with phpBB did it automatically create the SQL db for you?
[04:10] <Evanlec> tostig, oh, so you really are having trouble installing a lot of software u need?
[04:10] <ARDNEY> xxxx
[04:10] <tostig> ztomic, are you looking at me?
[04:10] <johnny_01> #ubuntu-news  deuryte
[04:10] <zcat[1]> Twan: I think it did.. I can't remember having to do any of that
[04:11] <Eagle_101> Twan: no, you need to get mysql-server
[04:11] <tostig> ztomic, talking rather
[04:11] <thinkl00p> i have one hard drive with my ubuntu installation on, I just added a second 150 gig HDD. Which mount point should I give it?
[04:11] <Evanlec> tostig, i thot u were debating which version to install
[04:11] <Jordan_U> ugi, Can you give an example of a site that does not work for you?
[04:11] <autumnx> so why am i getting login issues? why does my computer freeze at times when i log in?
[04:11] <Eagle_101> Twan synaptic will probably install that for you
[04:11] <zcat[1]> Eagle_101: mysql server will be a dependancy of any package that needs mysql..
[04:11] <tostig> evanlec, no not debating.. i want to use continue using 64 bit.. but avg anti-virus and google desktop for example wouldnt install
[04:11] <bqmassey> is it correct that i have to create a "logical" partition and then put both the main ext3 and the swap file inside of it?
[04:11] <Twan> Excellent.
[04:11] <nickrud> Twan: I had to create a mysql user, and an empty database that user had the correct permssions for. After that, mysql was fine
[04:11] <Twan> Ok, so I need to learn how to create mysql databases through shell for an Ubuntu server...
[04:11] <Eagle_101> Twan: When you do install it, it will ask you to give it the root password for mysql (the root user in mysql), and then phpbb will install on top of htat.
[04:12] <ztomic> tostig: I was looking at some stupid guy up there. was it you?
[04:12] <WorkingOnWise> what apps do I need to use to get my 8 month old laptop to hibernate and suspend cleanly and quickly?
[04:12] <Twan> how do I know the root password for mysql
[04:12] <Evanlec> tostig, ugh why would u need avg?
[04:12] <nickrud> eugh, using root password for web access!
[04:12] <Twan> In fact, how do I check if MySQL is installed, I mean, I thimk I saw it under /etc/ or /var/
[04:12] <Twan> But is there anyway to check if a package is installed?
[04:12] <Eagle_101> Twan, easy, type in mysql -uroot -p then type in create database <NAMEHERE>;
[04:12] <logreeval> Is there an Alsamixer GNOME Applet?
[04:12] <nickrud> Twan: dpkg -l <packagename>
[04:12] <Twan> This is all so complicated heh
[04:12] <musikgoat> twan i recommend mysqladmin if your looking for help with that
[04:12] <zcat[1]> WorkingOnWise: upgrade to Gutsy.. if that doesn't fix it you probably have a laptop that only works properly in 'doze.
[04:13] <Twan> But I'm sure I'll catch on. I'll be back tomorrow. Thanks!
[04:13] <tostig> ztomic, I am not sure I understand what you're talking about.. ? i saw 2 lines.. too much.. ?
[04:13] <ztomic> tostig: nope.. it was jrib.
[04:13] <gabriel_> i have problem with avi videos in ubuntu gutsy. Somebody can help me?
[04:13] <FluxD> gabriel_: VLC
[04:13] <Jordan_U> gabriel_, What problem?
[04:13] <Eagle_101> Hi, when attempting to dowload plugins for thunderbird through the "get extensions" link with ubuntu gusty gibben, it says the extensions are not compatable. The extension I was attempting to use is https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/1832 on thunderbird <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:13] <jrib> ztomic: hmm?
[04:13] <johnny_01> deyryte  load this..go to (icq)  and load room (christianity.  http://www.chatcircuit.com/irc_servers.php
[04:14] <pawan> hi
[04:14] <tostig> evanlec, i think it seems like a good idea to run anti-virus.. saying the system is impervious to viruses .. sounds like a mac user ;)
[04:14] <pawan> my session not lasting more than 10 seconds
[04:14] <P> Anyone working with the alternate CD?
[04:14] <Evanlec> tostig, well, it might sound ignorant..but its kinda true....
[04:14] <Jordan_U> !virus | tostig
[04:14] <ubotu> tostig: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:14] <Eagle_101> P: sure, plop it in, its easy :D
[04:14] <musikgoat> tostig: get a firewall and you will be fine
[04:14] <Evanlec> tostig, http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:15] <Evanlec> heh
[04:15] <Eagle_101> P: howver if you are using it because your machine can't run the LiveCD, I'd suggest using xUbuntu.
[04:15] <leo_rockw> tostig: you don't use your comp as admin, even if there were virii they wouldn't be able to hurt you much
[04:15] <P> eagle, I was thinking of removing some packages from the alternate cd
[04:15] <tostig> i am not saying i dont believe it is a very secure system, but on the other hand i also have windows boxes on my network
[04:15] <gabriel_> Jordan_U, I don't find codecs to attend to videos avi
[04:15] <tostig> they run their own antivirus but doesnt hurt to be extra careful?
[04:15] <foug> how can I prevent Nautilus from taking up so much memory over time?
[04:15] <musikgoat> tostig: so worry about them, not linux
[04:15] <leo_rockw> tostig: then it is a good idea to install AV soft, there are AV in the repos
[04:15] <matt_l> hello
[04:16] <ztomic> jrib: well i mean... two lines is not really too much..
[04:16] <ztomic> right
[04:16] <matt_l> can anyone tell me why my gaim has been removed? i understand the name was changed to pidgin, but why did it have to be removed during my upgrade to gutsy?
[04:16] <deuryte> yes, we are living in "the" last days... it's just that GOD will have to try to get there attention in bigger ways cause it seems that all the year after year record breaking weather patterns that bring devistation seems not to work, so i imagine it will be a police state that takes all freedoms away as to cause all distractions to be taken away as to cause .... thinking ??....
[04:16] <Jordan_U> gabriel_, What happens when you open the avi in "Movie Player" ( Totem-gstreamer ) ?
[04:16] <tostig> right, but that goes back to why i will probably install 32 bit :)
[04:16] <jrib> ztomic: it was more like 5 and I was just informing
[04:16] <leo_rockw> tostig: there's clamAV
[04:16] <johnny_01> hey go to the other room
[04:16] <CryptoMole> hi all
[04:16] <CryptoMole> what alsa version does gusty have?
[04:17] <Evanlec> tostig, going back to 32-bit for anti-virus ... i've heard of MUCH better reasons than that...
[04:17] <zcat[1]> If you use linux 'sensibly' -- don't install stuff you don't understand, don't run as root, etc.. the chances of ever getting a virus is basically zero. I surf warez sites, install all kinds of servers, do all kinds of stuff in a root shell instead of using sudo, etc, etc.. so I've managed to pick up one worm way back when I was running redhat6.0 .. but other than that, no problems.
[04:17] <ztomic> jrib: I count different. I thought 2 is 2.
[04:17] <foug> how can I prevent Nautilus from taking up so much memory over time?
[04:17] <tostig> probably.. but i am kinda looking to run google desktop too
[04:17] <foug> zcat[1]: what's a root shell, instead of sudo? where you log in with sudo -s?
[04:17] <tostig> i am sure there are other things that will come up along the way
[04:17] <Eagle_101> tostig: most windows viruses simply won't run on linux. You don't have to worry about being part of http://en.wikipeida.com/wiki/Storm_worm for example.
[04:18] <Evanlec> tostig, u running gutsy?
[04:18] <leo_rockw> tostig: a better reason to use 32 bits would be flash... and there are work arounds for that too
[04:18] <zcat[1]> yeah.. sudo -s or sudo -i. Not recommended. :-)
[04:18] <bqmassey> is it correct that i have to create a "logical" partition and then put both the main ext3 and the swap file inside of it?  is there a good document on how to manual set up ubuntu partitions?
[04:18] <foug> zcat[1]: i usually use sudo -s, what's the -s and -i stand for?
[04:18] <jrib> tostig: the antivirus software scans for windows' viruses so it only makes sense to use it if you are running a mail server for windows users for example
[04:18] <matt_l> can anyone tell me why my gaim has been removed? i understand the name was changed to pidgin, but why did it have to be removed during my upgrade to gutsy?
[04:18] <Evanlec> tostig, yea, ur network might have windows boxes, but viruses they pick up you will be immune to...
[04:18] <Eagle_101> bqmassey: its not hard
[04:18] <Jordan_U> foug, Shell and interactive
[04:18] <zcat[1]> shell / interactive. I think they both do the same thing.
[04:18] <Eagle_101> bqmassey: make two partitions, one for swap and one for root
[04:18] <tostig> i got flash working fine actually.. the only thing i cannot seem to get to work are quicktime videos
[04:18] <pushpop> Hello all, since I upgraded to 7.10 when I run compiz I lose my borders on my windows and they are frozen in place.  Any Idea's?
[04:18] <foug> hmm, got a link to a more in depth review or shell /interative/
[04:18] <leo_rockw> matt_l: it got upgraded to pidgin probly
[04:19] <matt_l> leo_rockw, i understand that but why did it have to remove gaim?
[04:19] <leo_rockw> pushpop: did you try compiz --replace ?
[04:19] <Eagle_101> bqmassey: however if you are installing this (not a dual boot) I suggest using the wizard.
[04:19] <zcat[1]> If you try really, really hard, there's about three Windows viruses that can run and try to infect other machines under Wine.
[04:19] <bqmassey> Eagle_101: doesn't there have to be a "container" or something?
[04:19] <leo_rockw> matt_l: it didn't remove it, it upgraded it
[04:19] <Jordan_U> tostig, install win32codecs
[04:19] <pushpop> leo_rockw: yes I did thats the command I use to launch compiz and it removed the borders from all my windows...
[04:19] <bqmassey> Eagle_101: yea. dual boot.
[04:19] <tostig> evanlec, i meant more on the side of windows boxes picking up viruses from my linux box if they were to browse the file system over samba.. something to that effect
[04:19] <zcat[1]> But you really have to go out of your way to set them up so they'll run, even that way.
[04:19] <FluxD> bqmassey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[04:19] <Eagle_101> bqmassey: nope, just make two partitions, /dev/hda1 is my root and /dev/hda2 is my swap
[04:19] <nickrud> pushpop: try emerald --replace
[04:19] <Eagle_101> bqmassey: in that case you need to shrink your windows partitino first
[04:20] <matt_l> leo_rockw, ah, i see now, gaim is a dummy package...any way you can think of to get gaim back, with a working OTR? before i had to install gaim-otr for it to work from the repos...
[04:20] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys, I saw that gutsy came out and I have feisty and so i was wondering if I can use the update manager without any problems
[04:20] <bqmassey> zcat[1]: i'd be pissed if a virus worked for me on WINE... nothing else does
[04:20] <marik> can anyone help me setting up bios raid?
[04:20] <Evanlec> leo_rockw, yea actually flash is a piece of cake for 64-bit on gutsy
[04:20] <tostig> im assuming google desktop is probably a lost cause
[04:20] <nickrud> rflol bqmassey
[04:20] <leo_rockw> matt_l: why do you want gaim back? it is obsolete
[04:20] <pushpop> nickrud: could not open location?
[04:20] <Eagle_101> bqmassey: then all you do after that is add a swap partition, and a root partition, mount them as such tell it to format as swap and ext3 respectively, and push go!
[04:20] <WhoNeedszzz> leo_rockw, I still use gaim
[04:20] <leo_rockw> WhoNeedszzz: why?
[04:20] <ztomic> WhoNeedszzz: I tried it and it didn't work.
[04:20] <matt_l> leo_rockw, rather let me put it this way, i want the UI of gaim back, reinstalling a working gaim+otr would be a roundabout way i will admit.
[04:20] <searayman> can i get soem help with screen resolutions?
[04:21] <Paxton> Hi guys, just wanted to say thanks for the help earlier on getting my stuff setup on Ubuntu. The only thing left was support for my ATI card, but it looks like that's improving very quickly with the open source driver
[04:21] <Eagle_101> Hi, when attempting to dowload plugins for thunderbird through the "get extensions" link with ubuntu gusty gibben, it says the extensions are not compatable. The extension I was attempting to use is https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/1832 on thunderbird <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:21] <Evanlec> tostig, ur not happy with the deskbar applet on gutsy? its like google desktop...
[04:21] <searayman> mine wont go any higher then 800X600
[04:21] <WhoNeedszzz> leo_rockw, bc it is fine
[04:21] <WhoNeedszzz> ztomic, what are you answering to?
[04:21] <leo_rockw> WhoNeedszzz: pidgin corrected bugs gaim still has
[04:21] <gabriel_> Jordan_U, yes totem-gstreamer him searchs in the repository and he doesn't find Intel Indeo 4 decoder
[04:21] <nickrud> pushpop: heh?  try gkt-window-decorator --replace
[04:21] <zcat[1]> bqmassey: yeah. Someone did a study and managed to find a few that actually would run under Wine. Mostly they won't even run that way 'cos they try to do non-standard windows calls just like any other windows program.
 Hey guys, I saw that gutsy came out and I have feisty and so i was wondering if I can use the update manager without any problems
[04:22] <Eagle_101> bqmassey: one warning, make sure to defrag your disk first
[04:22] <WhoNeedszzz> ztomic, ah, what do you mean it didn't work?
[04:22] <searayman> can somone help me get the rigth screen resolution?
[04:22] <zcat[1]> ztomic: in theory yes. In practise YMMV.
[04:22] <lucianno> hello guys
[04:22] <bqmassey> Eagle_101: i deleted all the partions and did a clean windows install
[04:22] <pawan> hi
[04:22] <leo_rockw> hello lucianno
[04:22] <nickrud> ztomic: no one here is going to say there won't be problems, we see them cuz people come here for help :) But its' the best method
[04:22] <ztomic> WhoNeedszzz: I'm doin' good with feisty
[04:22] <pawan> my session not lasting more than 10 seconds
[04:22] <Innomen> 7.10 wont see the linksys card, suggestions?
[04:22] <tostig> evanlec, guess i hadnt used it.. does anyone know off hand if hamachi works in 64 bit?
[04:22] <Paxton> Innomen: Do you have the driver?
[04:22] <pushpop> Hello all, since I upgraded to 7.10 when I run compiz I lose my borders on my windows and they are frozen in place.  Any Idea's?
[04:22] <Eagle_101> bqmassey: ok, then if you don't have much to risk (such as critical data) just plop the live cd in and follow my instructinos
[04:22] <ztomic> nickrud: it means nothing to me\
[04:22] <Paxton> Innomen: do you have the driver?
[04:23] <Evanlec> tostig, not even sure what that is...
[04:23] <lucianno> im  beggining in then world of ubuntu and i am have fun...
[04:23] <searayman> can i have help with screen resolutions
[04:23] <searayman> #ubuntu-effects
[04:23] <Eagle_101> bqmassey: bascally your swap will be /dev/hda2 and root will be /dev/hda3
[04:23] <leo_rockw> lucianno: we all do :-D
[04:23] <MasterShrek> tostig, if its open source then probably
[04:23] <Jordan_U> !ask | searayman
[04:23] <ubotu> searayman: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:23] <bqmassey> Eagle_101: i created the small partition, then installed windows into it.. everything else should be deleted.. so i don't need to defrag, correct?
[04:23] <pawan> Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds.  If you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of diskspace.  Try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem.
[04:23] <WhoNeedszzz> so is there any problems with using update manager?
[04:23] <lucianno> waw leo
[04:23] <ztomic> I love feisty
[04:23] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, whatup meng ;p
[04:23] <Eagle_101> bqmassey: right, should not have to, if you have unpartitioned space on the disk
[04:23] <MasterShrek> whts goin on Evanlec
[04:23] <searayman> Jordan_U: my screen resolution willn ot go higher then 800x600
[04:23] <Tem> wow lol.  I feel dumb for not thinking of this last night...
[04:23] <MasterShrek> custom kernel yet?
[04:23] <Innomen> Paxton: i do on this install
[04:23] <leo_rockw> lucianno: linux is like a big box of fun... (?) lol
[04:23] <matt_l> leo_rockw, are you aware of any way to reinstate the old gaim UI to pidgin? that's really all i guess i'm looking for
[04:23] <Jordan_U> searayman, What GPU ?
[04:23] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, yes! finally today i got nvidia drivers working
[04:24] <bqmassey> Eagle_101: this is my setup 1: linux root 2: linux swap 3: windows xp 4: ext3 for /home
[04:24] <Eagle_101> just create a new parition for swap and one for the "root" filesystem of ubuntu
[04:24] <Tem> If your usb mouse is freezing, plug it in through PS2!
[04:24] <MasterShrek> good news Evanlec :)
[04:24] <searayman> Jordan_U: does that mean graphics card?
[04:24] <bqmassey> Eagle_101: or at least my intended setup
[04:24] <nickrud> ztomic: ah, I see, sorry
[04:24] <tostig> www.hamachi.cc .. a vpn basically
[04:24] <leo_rockw> matt_l: not really
[04:24] <Jordan_U> searayman, Yes
[04:24] <Eagle_101> bqmassey: that will work, though I warn you windows loves to be first
[04:24] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, Linux ubuntu64 <IP_ADDRESS>-custom4 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Oct 24 23:51:27 EDT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux  :) :) :)
[04:24] <bqmassey> Eagle_101: i take that back.. i'm putting the swap first
[04:24] <matt_l> damm.
[04:24] <searayman> Jordan_U: nvidia riva tnt2/tnt2 pro
[04:24] <lucianno> leo_rockw,  where are you from?
[04:24] <zcat[1]> My upgrade went horribly. But only 'cos I did some non-standard stuff to get a specific nvidia driver working (one midway between legacy, which is too old, and the current ubuntu one which doesn't work with my card)
[04:24] <Paxton> Innomen: Make sure ndiswrapper (I'm assuming there isn't a linux-native driver, right?) is on
[04:24] <leo_rockw> matt_l: even if you do install gaim, it will probly get upgraded to pidgin next time you apt-get upgrade
[04:24] <nickrud> WhoNeedszzz: some people have troubles with upgrades, but update-manager is the best method available.
[04:24] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, awesome! :)
[04:24] <leo_rockw> matt_l: so you'd have to tell ubuntu not to do it manually
[04:24] <leo_rockw> lucianno: argentina
[04:24] <Eagle_101> bqmassey: you will likely end up with something like 1 windows 2 swap 3 root 4 /home
[04:24] <lucianno> nice
[04:25] <Jordan_U> searayman, Have you already tried System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager ?
[04:25] <WhoNeedszzz> nickrud, but what kind of problems and is it something bad such as reformatting?
[04:25] <matt_l> leo_rockw, yeah..because it's still a dummy package right?
[04:25] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, i dont know how i fixed it either, it was all b0rked, even on my old kernel when i tried to install it
[04:25] <andresmujica> i thought gutsy had pidgin by default mine seems to be gaim ...
[04:25] <zcat[1]> everything else was totally sweet here.. and I have a lot of extra stuff installed
[04:25] <searayman> Jordan_U: ye si have installed my restricted drivers if that is what ur asking
[04:25] <openedu> how do I find out what version of linux I am running?
[04:25] <ztomic> nickrud: np.
[04:25] <nickrud> WhoNeedszzz: no, thinks like needing to reconfigure X, not booting properly, but no data loss
[04:25] <Innomen> paxton: alight, thank you, i'm going to go attempt
[04:25] <matt_l> andresmujica, got the exact oposite problem you have
[04:25] <bqmassey> Eagle_101: well i already installed windows.. but it's just for games mostly.. so i dont care if it gets pissy
[04:25] <pawan> hello
[04:25] <leo_rockw> matt_l: because to ubuntu gaim is just an outdated version of pidgin
[04:25] <Jordan_U> andreashard, Is this an upgrade or a fresh install?
[04:25] <johnny_01> deuryte
[04:25] <pawan> how to restore session
[04:25] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, that happens to me from time to time, never really konw how things get fixed but they do
[04:25] <Eagle_101> bqmassey: I'm talking about pissy as in " won't boot"
[04:25] <deuryte> yo ??
[04:25] <leo_rockw> matt_l: so if you tell ubuntu you want to update, it will update gaim because it is old
[04:25] <WhoNeedszzz> nickrud, oh ok so i shouldn't need to do any precautions?
[04:25] <bqmassey> Eagle_101: oh
[04:25] <ztomic> it was a poll
[04:25] <WhoNeedszzz> how long does it take to upgrade?
[04:25] <pushpop> Hello all, since I upgraded to 7.10 when I run compiz I lose my borders on my windows and they are frozen in place.  Any Idea's?
[04:26] <Eagle_101> windows more or less wants to be first on a drive
[04:26] <matt_l> leo_rockw, yeah, okay so that option is out the window...
[04:26] <Eagle_101> linux won't care
[04:26] <Paxton> Innomen: No problem, I'm a linksys guy too :) There's a nice tutorial on getting a Wireless-N USB Adapter working on the forums that I followed
[04:26] <DanaG> Oh hey, what's the best way to apply the colors of one theme to another theme?
[04:26] <bqmassey> Eagle_101: it booted earlier.. don't know if it will now
[04:26] <zcat[1]> pushpop: don't run compiz? :)
[04:26] <musikgoat> WhoNeedszzz: depends,  cd or net?
[04:26] <nickrud> WhoNeedszzz: you do have a regular backup routine, right??
[04:26] <andresmujica> hehe-... just foudn something odd.. i've got gaaim and pidgin!!!
[04:26] <johnny_01> U have to close x then click icq on that page first.then enter the room as i stated
[04:26] <searayman> Jordan_U: any ideas?
[04:26] <DanaG> I want to use GTK engine 'X' but the colors from theme 'Y'.
[04:26] <Eagle_101> bqmassey: one way to find out :D
[04:26] <Random832> pushpop: well, what that means is your iwndow manager died - couldn't tell you why though
[04:26] <leo_rockw> matt_l: there's a way to tell ubuntu not to update a certain package
[04:26] <Jordan_U> searayman, Have you already tried System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager ?
[04:26] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, have u had any stability issues with ur kernel? mines pretty stable altho a game crashed on me earlier today...just concerned about the pre-emptible part...dont see many ppl recomending it
[04:26] <leo_rockw> matt_l: and you can problably find debs for gaim
[04:26] <WhoNeedszzz> musikgoat, net
[04:26] <matt_l> leo_rockw, oh? i'm not familar with it
[04:26] <deuryte> who in the {*^%#@} was that {%^YY*() that said it wasnt a privte ect...???
[04:26] <WhoNeedszzz> nickrud, nope
[04:26] <nickrud> DanaG: you'd have to edit the theme definition manually
[04:26] <bqmassey> Eagle_101: are both root and swap "primary" partitions?
[04:26] <leo_rockw> matt_l: i heard of it, never used it so i don't remember it
[04:26] <nickrud> WhoNeedszzz: now's the time to start one then :)
[04:27] <Eagle_101> bqmassey: as you have only 4 partitions, mark the lot as primary
[04:27] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, i havent had a single problem yet
[04:27] <searayman> Jordan_U: yes
[04:27] <tck0> anyone using kernel 2.6.23 ?
[04:27] <johnny_01> those people own this network..make no waves
[04:27] <WhoNeedszzz> nickrud, and so what is the best?
[04:27] <tck0> i dont see the bttv module in it anymore
[04:27] <tck0> what happened to it ?
[04:27] <musikgoat> WhoNeedszzz: could be short or long, depending on net speeds and server choice
[04:27] <deuryte> too late...
[04:27] <MasterShrek> tck0, me and Evanlec are
[04:27] <tck0> i need it for my tvtuner
[04:27] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, yea...well its runnin pretty good, maybe just a fluke, it was with et:quake wars, did u try that btw?
[04:27] <nickrud> WhoNeedszzz: I use sbackup
[04:27] <matt_l> leo_rockw, alright, that's a start then. thanks. much more help than the folks in #pidgin were.
[04:27] <pushpop> Random832: it says No GLXFB Config for depth 32
[04:27] <WhoNeedszzz> musikgoat, my dl max is 6 Gb/s
[04:27] <Jordan_U> searayman, Did it give you an option to enable the drivers for your card?
[04:27] <deuryte> i hate control freq's... too baad..
[04:27] <searayman> Jordan_U: yes
[04:27] <nickrud> WhoNeedszzz: but best is determined by your needs, mine are simple
[04:27] <musikgoat> WhoNeedszzz: then just pick a good server and your set
[04:27] <zcat[1]> oh yeah.. since I upgraded (and even after fixing up the nvidia drivers again) beryl and compiz won't run, and Urban Terror runs like crap :(
[04:27] <ztomic> WhoNeedszzz: you need to try it cause you need to do it.
[04:27] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, havent yet, the demo thing i downloaded was an exe, so im going to have to look for the iso of it, btw IS it an iso?
[04:27] <leo_rockw> matt_l: probably someone here knows how to tell ubuntu not to update a package
[04:28] <WhoNeedszzz> ztomic, need to do what?
[04:28] <johnny_01> close x and go to the icq on the page i sent and go to christianity.
[04:28] <Jordan_U> searayman, And it says that it is enabled and in use now?
[04:28] <bqmassey> alright. here i go.
[04:28] <searayman> Jordan_U: correct
[04:28] <Eagle_101> Hi, when attempting to download plugins for thunderbird through the "get extensions" link with ubuntu gusty gibben, it says the extensions are not compatable. The extension I was attempting to use is https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/1832 on thunderbird <IP_ADDRESS> My firefox version seems to be <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:28] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, lol no, they just released the linux native version of it...its a bash installer
[04:28] <ztomic> WhoNeedszzz: umm. upgrade to gusty?
[04:28] <Jordan_U> searayman, Can you set a higher resolution in System -> Administration -> Screens and Graphics ?
[04:28] <WhoNeedszzz> ztomic, why do i _need_ to?
[04:28] <searayman> Jordan_U: hold on
[04:28] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, well i got that, but it asks me to insert a cd or something, i didnt have one though, maybe i got the wrong installer or something
[04:29] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, its based on the quake4 engine, quake4 is linux-native as well
[04:29] <searayman> Jordan_U: will try
[04:29] <lucianno> leo_rockw,  which name of borwser much light
[04:29] <matt_l> leo_rockw, the only problem with using a deb is if i can get OTR to work. regardless i shall try.
[04:29] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, u probly got the full game, u want the demo...
[04:29] <marik> for some reason in the livecd i can install dmraid, do a dmraid -s; dmraid -ay; etc and it won't put anything in /dev/mapper
[04:29] <ztomic> WhoNeedszzz: cause..
[04:29] <deuryte> yo.. johnny ??
[04:29] <johnny_01> ?
[04:29] <leo_rockw> lucianno: what desktop environment do you use?
[04:29] <nickrud> cuz it's new and shiny>
[04:29] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, damn...ill look into it, but i dont game much on my pc, i use my psp for that :)
[04:29] <deuryte> so...  how to get private...???
[04:29] <WhoNeedszzz> i bet it is that's why i want to get it
[04:30] <Evanlec> marik, u trying to install to a fakeraid?
[04:30] <ubuntu_> #ubuntu-es
[04:30] <musikgoat> lucianno: you need a lightweight browser?  isn't there a light firefox version?
[04:30] <marik> Evanlec: ya
[04:30] <deuryte> johnny??
[04:30] <ztomic> nickrud: )
[04:30] <johnny_01> as i said before
[04:30] <Evanlec> marik, well, good luck, i tried for a while and eventually just gave up
[04:30] <lucianno> i am using gnome but i want install other more light
[04:30] <deuryte> where is icq  @
[04:30] <marik> Evanlec: i can install gentoo no problem.. just add "dodmraid" to kernel boot options
[04:31] <leo_rockw> lucianno: you can install fluxbox
[04:31] <zcat[1]> So hungry hippo is going to be an LTS release?
[04:31] <ruffleS> veeeeeeeeeeelho eu descobri um BUG CRITICO no ubuntu! o.O
[04:31] <ztomic> shiny is goooood!
[04:31] <ruffleS> oooops
[04:31] <Evanlec> marik, really? well ubuntu sucks for fakeraid then lol
[04:31] <johnny_01> on this page..but remember U have to close x first and click on icq link.  http://www.chatcircuit.com/irc_servers.php
[04:31] <ruffleS> i'm sorry guys.. wrong channel
[04:31] <WhoNeedszzz> nickrud, and where do you backup to?
[04:31] <deuryte> 4
[04:31] <johnny_01> cya in 2
[04:31] <deuryte> going there now to try
[04:32] <nickrud> lucianno: you might like to try xubuntu-desktop , openbox , blackbox, waimea, fluxbox
[04:32] <leo_rockw> lucianno: a lighter desktop environment
[04:32] <Evanlec> lucianno, epiphany is a light-weight alternative to firefox
[04:32] <deuryte> meet me back here in 2 min
[04:32] <andresmujica> which bug ruffles?
[04:32] <johnny_01> k
[04:32] <MasterShrek> deuryte, its an old-school instant messenger protocol
[04:32] <ztomic> WhoNeedszzz: everyone backs up to null
[04:32] <WhoNeedszzz> ztomic, null?
[04:32] <nickrud> WhoNeedszzz: I have it back up to a directory, and regularly write that directory to dvd's
[04:32] <ruffleS> andresmujica, openoffice crashes when u're using any theme but human or clearlooks
[04:32] <marik> Evanlec: i just dont understand how dmraid can detect my drives and still not create the entries in /dev/
[04:33] <WhoNeedszzz> but what good is backing up to a dir if the hdd gets reformatted?
[04:33] <andresmujica> hmm. let me check
[04:33] <zcat[1]> I rsync to my webserver.. but not often enough :(
[04:33] <ruffleS> andresmujica, it's been moved to critical now
[04:33] <johnny_01> He does not pay attention
[04:33] <nickrud> WhoNeedszzz: I have it set not to back up mp3's, movies, etc I back those up separately
[04:33] <alienseer23> q: when setting up mysql, and setting the bind-adddress, is it ok to leave it set to localhost? the guide i am using tells me to set it to my ip address, would that be my external ip, or my local networked ip?
[04:33] <lucianno> Evanlec, and it have any limitations?
[04:33] <musikgoat> WhoNeedszzz: most people backup to another location
[04:33] <Ashfire908> i'm installing phpmyadmin, and it's asking what web server(s) to automatically update. the options (it's a checklist) are "apache2" "apache" "apache-ssl" and "apache-perl". which do i select?
[04:33] <WhoNeedszzz> musikgoat, such as?
[04:33] <nickrud> WhoNeedszzz: write the backups to a disk. I do the write to a directory at night, write the dvd in the morning
[04:33] <musikgoat> you tell me
[04:34] <zcat[1]> I have three computers, most of my files are on at least two of them.
[04:34] <novato_br> ruffleS, go to ubuntu-br. plz
[04:34] <Evanlec> lucianno, well its light-weight so it does lack some of the extra features of firefox, and much less in the way of extensions, but try it out anyway see if it fits your needs
[04:34] <musikgoat> i have a linkstation linux box storing my backups
[04:34] <Ashfire908> sorry, *to automatically reconfigure
[04:34] <ruffleS> novato_br, shhhhh..
[04:34] <MasterShrek> Ashfire908, depends on what webserver you are running, most likely apache2
[04:34] <ruffleS> novato_br, :)
[04:34] <johnny_01> deuryte
[04:34] <zcat[1]> I should rsync everything in a cron job.. but I don't have the same drivespace on all of them
[04:34] <lucianno> leo_rockw, i tryed install icewm but i think what i cant...
[04:34]  * nickrud would backup over the net, if he had another machine
[04:34] <ztomic> basic computers is in the next room
[04:34] <Ashfire908> MasterShrek: ok
[04:34] <lucianno> Evanlec, ok
[04:34] <gary_inNYC> ok, from what i've read so far in various how to's and wikis, it seems to create a share that's accessible to win boxes, i have to create a samba user and password, and edit smb.conf  ; if so is there a way to manage those users and passwords from a gui after this setup?
[04:34] <Eagle_101> Is there a reason why extensions on modzilla's site refuse to install becase they are not compatable?
[04:35] <Eagle_101> (mainly for thunderbird)
[04:35] <johnny_01> deuryte
[04:35] <zcat[1]> gary_inNYC: right-click on folder and pick to share it, it'll offer to install samba if you don't already have it.
[04:35] <leo_rockw> lucianno: yes, you can install icewm
[04:35] <brite22> how do i install third party fonts in ubuntu
[04:35] <Evanlec> Eagle_101, did u try looking in synaptic for those extensions?
[04:35] <jrib> !fonts > brite22 (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:35] <Eagle_101> Evanlec: mmm why would it be there...
[04:35] <zcat[1]> gtg brb cul8r (afk)
[04:36]  * Eagle_101 checks...
[04:36] <johnny_01> 2 funny
[04:36] <Evanlec> Eagle_101, some firefox extensions are there...i dont know
[04:36] <lucianno> leo_rockw, i type dpkg -i icewm.deb
[04:36] <brite22> yes i did its non english fonts in local indian language and i cant see the website properly
[04:36] <thinkl00p> possible to install an rpm package in ubuntu?
[04:36] <leo_rockw> lucianno: sudo apt-get install icewm
[04:36] <leo_rockw> thinkl00p: yes, use alien
[04:36] <FluxD> thinkl00p: google for alien
[04:36] <WhoNeedszzz> ok thx for the help guys
[04:36] <nickrud> thinkl00p: not advisable, what package
[04:36] <nickrud> !alien
[04:36] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:37] <lucianno> leo_rockw, and type icewm --replace bu dont towork
[04:37] <thinkl00p> nickrud: i was looking for an adobe reader
[04:37] <thinkl00p> something for .pdfs
[04:37] <johnny_01> 2 much asparatane
[04:37] <nclx> I want to filter a message from ever getting logged to my syslog's /var/log/messages: "rtc: lost some interrupts at 1024Hz.", any ideas, I know it can be easily filtered via grep -v "" but I don't want it ever getting written to the disk because it happens on this box like 100 times per second or more
[04:37] <PiousMinion> I'm a member of the cdrom group and the drom group has RW on /dev/scd0, but every disc I put in my burner.....     brasero says it's un-writable.    clues?
[04:37] <Evanlec> !pdf | thinkl00p
[04:37] <ubotu> thinkl00p: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[04:37] <lucianno> leo_rockw, but this file is in my hd
[04:37] <thinkl00p> oh nice
[04:37] <nickrud> !info evince | thinkl00p
[04:37] <ubotu> thinkl00p: evince: Document (postscript, pdf) viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.0-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 1186 kB, installed size 6192 kB
[04:37] <leo_rockw> lucianno: icewm is a desktop environment not a window manager
[04:38] <Evanlec> thinkl00p, as a rule of thumb, never try to install an RPM or a source/binary file until you've exhausted your search for a deb package
[04:38] <Eagle_101> Evanlec: nothing in synaptics with a search term "thunderbird" searching both name/desc
[04:38] <thinkl00p> oh ok thank you Evanlec
[04:38] <lucianno> yeah, but i still toge confused this
[04:38] <Evanlec> Eagle_101, yea, ur right, im sorry i dont know then
[04:39] <johnny_01> deuryte
[04:39] <lucianno> and hwo to install a file in my pc
[04:39] <lucianno> leo_rockw, and how to install the file in my pc?
[04:39] <nickrud> lucianno: system->admin->synaptic , ctl-f to search, and install that way
[04:39] <desertc> Anyone else seeing DIVX movies playing video with only a scrambled green screen after upgrading to Gutsy?
[04:39] <leo_rockw> lucianno: what file?
[04:40] <lucianno> icewm,
[04:40] <lucianno> leo_rockw, icewm
[04:40] <johnny_01> deu(notso)ryte
[04:40] <leo_rockw> lucianno: sudo apt-get install icewm
[04:40] <theBishop> Hi, I'm getting really lousy performance out of my Broadcom 4318 ever since I installed Gutsy.  It was fine under Feisty and Dapper
[04:41] <ztomic> I gotta go... watch my ass as it leaves.
[04:41] <lucianno> nickrud, usinf the synaptic
[04:41] <PaPaFD> Anyone ever manage to setup joy2key?
[04:41] <leo_rockw> theBishop: are you using ndiswrapper
[04:41] <renato123> hello, can someone tell me how do i transform a trade partition into an usable partition?
[04:41] <nickrud> lucianno: you should learn to use synaptic, it's your centralized software source.
[04:41] <theBishop> leo_rockw, no, but i wasn't in Feisty either
[04:41] <lucianno> nickrud, nice
[04:41] <johnny_01> When ztomic bends over..we lose 1 hour daylite savings time.
[04:41] <Evanlec> PaPaFD, i did on windows...on linux im sure there are better apps for that
[04:41] <deuryte> when i go to the web site, it commands that i open an external application to proceed...    ???
[04:41] <finet> hi
[04:41] <leo_rockw> theBishop: ok, i was going to say that i don't use ndiswrapper and it didn't change for me
[04:41] <nickrud> lucianno: open synaptic, ctl-f icewm, when it shows on the screen right click the box next to it and select install
[04:41] <finet> I have more than 4000 on Windows, I want to import it with F-Spot, my problem is that they are classified in drawers which the name stands for the tag, how to reorganize my album then ?
[04:42] <deuryte> notsorite    ??
[04:42] <Jordan_U> searayman, Any luck?
[04:42] <johnny_01> #christianity
[04:42] <theBishop> leo_rockw,  so you haven't been seeing reports of slow wireless connections in Gutsy?
[04:42] <johnny_01> click it
[04:42] <Reval> hey whats the cli command to configure sound cant remember
[04:42] <lucianno> nickrud, ok, but for to use, how do?
[04:42] <johnny_01> deuryte
[04:42] <lucianno> nickrud, --replace
[04:42] <finet> (tmy pics are classified in directories and sub-directories actually)
[04:42] <leo_rockw> theBishop: i never enter this channel... and i didn't look in launchpad because it still works for me
[04:43] <theBishop> leo_rockw, right now, i'm getting 17Kbs downloading from the Ubuntu repo
[04:43] <finet> my*
[04:43] <nickrud> lucianno: when you have it installed, log out, and select it under sessions
[04:43] <theBishop> leo_rockw, normally i get well over 100K
[04:43] <leo_rockw> theBishop: you'll notice slow connection to the repos for a while
[04:43] <matux> i can't upgrade tu 7.10 I get this error :  org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply:
[04:43] <leo_rockw> theBishop: because people are still downloading gutsy
[04:43] <deuryte> ive tried it, r u in that one ?
[04:43] <johnny_01> yes
[04:43] <Paxton> For those who want to download gutsy I'd seriously reccomend using the torrent instead of slamming the download servers
[04:44] <renato123> hello, can someone tell me how do i transform a trade partition into an usable partition?
[04:44] <Paxton> There's >2000 Seeders active at this time
[04:44] <leo_rockw> theBishop: try smth like http://www.speedtest.net/
[04:44] <lucianno> nickrud, i using gnome, after install icewm my pc will be more light?
[04:44] <Evanlec> Paxton, can u link me real quick to the torrent? ;p
[04:44] <matux> can't upgrade to gutsy,
[04:44]  * DanaG uses mirrors.kernel.org.
[04:44] <nickrud> lucianno: much
[04:44] <Evanlec> lucianno, yes
[04:44] <matux> i can't upgrade tu 7.10 I get this error :  org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: I use gnome
[04:44] <DanaG> Good if in the USA.
[04:44] <nickrud> DanaG lives in CA?
[04:44] <Arafangion> lucianno: It will still weigh just as much, but you may be using slightly less memory. ;
[04:44] <Arafangion> :)
[04:45] <DanaG> Oh yeah, for other countries, google for "ubuntu mirrors list" and try variousuniversities and such.
[04:45] <Paxton> Evanlec: One sec. For some reason canonical or whoever owns the ubuntu website doesn't make it easy to find it. Just like Dell doesn't make it easy to find ubuntu pcs from the main page
[04:45] <nickrud> lol
[04:45] <Nocivo> help
[04:45] <leo_rockw> Arafangion: you're evil, lol
[04:45] <Reval> hey whats the cli command to configure sound cant remember
[04:45] <Nocivo> pci error! ubuntu not run pci enable, not wifi conect
[04:45] <Nocivo> xd
[04:45] <PiousMinion> Anyone have problems with brasero complaining that the disc ins't writeable but the drives reads discs fine?
[04:45] <lucianno> Arafangion, ok
[04:45] <Rhino_Ak> hi
[04:45] <deuryte> whats next ??
[04:45] <nickrud> Reval: asoundconf ?
[04:45] <Jordan_U> DanaG, Or just let Software Sources find the fastest one for you automagically :)
[04:45] <Reval> ty ty
[04:45] <johnny_01> what does it say
[04:45] <lucianno> nickrud, thx
[04:45] <Reval> damn im thinking of the mixer one ; ;
[04:45] <Evanlec> Paxton, nvm i got it, was just being lazy
[04:46] <Paxton> Evanlec: Are you using a 64 bit pro- Never mind. Just pick the right torrent for you (scroll down ):P http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/
[04:46] <nickrud> thautomagically, even
[04:46] <Evanlec> Paxton, thx
[04:46] <InHisName> Should I run to or avoid using ubuntu as host system under virtualbox ? Why?
[04:46] <Ashfire908> is there a particular reason that with a standard clean install of apache2, the link to /etc/apache2/sites-available/default in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ is called 000-default?
[04:46] <DanaG> Does "Software Sources" try mirrors.kernel.org?
[04:46] <Jordan_U> nickrud, BTW, so far I am failing miserably at installing Ubuntu-desktop :)
[04:46] <nickrud> Ashfire908: yes, so it's read first during the assembling of the apache.conf
[04:46] <Paxton> Evanlec: Remember to not get the "Alternate" version, unless you want a text-based installer
[04:47] <johnny_01> Seems to me U have alot of broken packages deuryte.
[04:47] <ir0nfusion> is amarok safe to install on ubuntu?
[04:47] <nickrud> Jordan_U: I looked for a few minutes for a tool that would give a recursive, unique listing, but no go :)
[04:47] <Jordan_U> ir0nfusion, Of course
[04:47] <Sincreatividad> ubuntu 7 10 include compiz fusion ?
[04:47] <johnny_01> time to re-load
[04:47] <iobelisk> hi could anybody tell me how i may configure boot splash, login screen and login splash?
[04:47] <ir0nfusion> I like it's radio stations
[04:47] <shane634> ir0nfusion: sure it is
[04:47] <nickrud> Jordan_U: here's your chance to test your python/shell powers
[04:47] <Jordan_U> Sincreatividad, Yes
[04:47] <Ashfire908> nickrud: so... i don't have to worry about adding numbers to the link when i'm enabling site config files?
[04:47] <ir0nfusion> well when I select it it tries to install kde stuff.
[04:47] <ir0nfusion> so didn't know
[04:47] <nickrud> Ashfire908: correct
[04:48] <ir0nfusion> had to ask
[04:48] <Ashfire908> nickrud: ok
[04:48] <deuryte> ezekiel chap's 38 and 39... russia will be going south to do something.. the GOD will entice them to attack israel will a host of allies, but will miserably lose, they will be running back home with only 1/6 of there armies... again.. israel wins !!!.. GOD's chosen...
[04:48] <Sincreatividad> thanks
[04:48] <shane634> ir0nfusion: that is normal
[04:48] <Jordan_U> nickrud, I failed :) I could have sworn my script would work though
[04:48] <johnny_01> deuryte..  ctl+alt+backspace
[04:48] <marik> hey i'm in a livecd trying to get my bios raid working.  when i run `dmraid -s`, my raid set shows up, but when i run `dmraid -ay` nothing gets created in /dev/mapper/ can anyone help?
[04:48] <nickrud> lol, I wouldn't even try. all those obscure dpkg-this and dpkg-that things give me a headache
[04:48] <johnny_01> he he
[04:48] <johnny_01> im bad
[04:49] <musikgoat> lol
[04:49] <ir0nfusion> shane634: so can I leave it alone and let it install the kde stuff?
[04:49] <LiMaO> omg, i'm trying fedora 8 test 3 on a virtualbox and it takes ages to boot that livecd
[04:49] <shane634> ir0nfusion: yeah i think it is just a metapackage no big deal
[04:50] <shane634> it will work in gnome just fine.. with some kde extras installed
[04:50] <Ashfire908> nickrud: should i do relative links or abslouter links for it? (i'm asking because the modules are relative and the default config file is absloute)
[04:50] <Rhino_Ak> df
[04:50] <nickrud> Ashfire908: create the config in sites-available, and use sudo a2ensite to enable it :)
[04:51] <Ashfire908> nickrud: oh.
[04:51] <warrior> o
[04:51] <matux> i can't upgrade tu 7.10 I get this error :  org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply:
[04:51] <Ashfire908> nickrud: what about modules
[04:51] <nickrud> Ashfire908: there's also a2enmod for modules
[04:51] <teicah> where does gutsy's compiz store its settings?  In ~/.config/compiz/compizconfig there is only the file 'config'
[04:51] <Jordan_U> matux, From update-manager?
[04:51] <Ashfire908> nickrud: are they optional or included?
[04:51] <runar> xmonad ftw!
[04:51] <nickrud> Ashfire908: included
[04:51] <Ashfire908> nickrud: ok
[04:51] <Jordan_U> teicah, Install compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:52] <emaconline> anyone here? after upgrading to gutsy, my system cannot boot already..
[04:52] <leo_rockw> gnite everyone
[04:52]  * leo_rockw is leaving
[04:52] <nickrud> Ashfire908: the reverse is a2dis[mod|site]
[04:52] <ir0nfusion> shane634: what database is best to use?
[04:52] <matux> yes from update-manager
[04:52] <Jordan_U> emaconline, What happens when you try to boot?
[04:52] <InHisName> LiMaO, Should I run to or avoid using ubuntu as host system under virtualbox ? Why?
[04:52] <shane634> ir0nfusion: not sure really
[04:53] <emaconline> Jordan_U --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3611752
[04:53] <emaconline> same as the other guys in that forum post
[04:53] <teicah> Jordan_U, already have.. i changed some settings.. working fine.. I just wonder where they are stored now..
[04:53] <admin__> emaconline. Have you tried booting from the livecd? Make sure everything installed correctly?
[04:53] <elliott541a> Knetworkmanager shows "no devices found" even though both my wired and wireless are up. /etc/network/interfaces doesn't have entries for them.
[04:53] <Ashfire908> nickrud: yeah, saw it in the man file
[04:54] <elliott541a> Any ideas?
[04:54] <Jordan_U> matux, make sure that you have the newest packages, run "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" But make sure that your sources.list is pointing to feisty NOT Gutsy
[04:54] <LiMaO> InHisName: i run ubuntu. love it. and always used it as a virtualbox host aswell. never had a single problem
[04:54] <emaconline> i dont have livecd.. i only have feisty livecd
[04:54] <admin__> that will work
[04:54] <smo> hi
[04:54] <LiMaO> InHisName: and i've tried lots of guest OS's here..
[04:54] <smo> how can i add a module to modprobe ?
[04:54] <emaconline> it seems to be a problem with computers with two HDs
[04:55] <maek> is there any vitalization similar to the apple parallels that lets you run an application from one of your virtual os'es with out starting the whole machine?
[04:55] <smo> i can insmod them form /lib/modules
[04:55] <smo> but modprobe don t see them
[04:55] <teicah> where does gutsy's compiz store its settings?  In ~/.config/compiz/compizconfig there is only the file 'config'
[04:55] <smo> even after depmod -a
[04:55] <root__> c.rizon.net
[04:55] <Paxton> Hey, I don't have ubuntu installed at this time, but I have a question: Do any of the variations of Ubuntu have a centralized "Help" option for the preinstalled applications?
[04:55] <Innomen> wrapper installed, no dice, still wont see the linksys card
[04:56] <InHisName> LiMaO, would you recommend Gutsy as host or Fiesty ?  I am starting with an empty 400 Gb disk on 2ghz old box.
[04:56] <shane634> Innomen: which card is it?
[04:56] <LiMaO> InHisName: i wouldn't recommend Gutsy at all.. too many problems. stick with Feisty and you'll be fine
[04:57] <r0b-> i have had no problems in Gutsy :P
[04:57] <Jordan_U> InHisName, If you want stability go with Dapper
[04:57] <Dr_willis> Other then the compiz stuff. :) i have had very few issues with gutsy
[04:57] <Innomen> hold on
[04:57] <johnny_01> now click this...  #christianity  deuryte
[04:58] <Innomen> shane634: wmp11
[04:58] <Jordan_U> InHisName, Otherwise I would go with Gutsy since you will have to go through it to upgrade to hardy anyway ( Dapper on the other hand will upgrade directly to hardy once it is out )
[04:58] <nickrud> since gutsy went final, I've had no problems except fglrx suspend
[04:58] <finet> what is the best tool to organize photos ?
[04:58] <etherael> hey guys, anyone know why the network preferences app is not storing the settings properly? I set WPA2 personal and it always goes back to WPA, so every boot I have to manually configure my wireless card
[04:58] <shane634> finet: picasa is good
[04:58] <deuryte> now ??
[04:58] <joe7d6> is intel gma x3100 compatible with cedega?
[04:58] <johnny_01> yes
[04:58] <deuryte> na.. later..
[04:58] <Paxton> nickrud: Even that's taken care of now isn't it? The open source ATI drivers have fglrx support
[04:58] <johnny_01> oy
[04:58] <Nocivo> help me
[04:58] <nickrud> Paxton: no, not yet.
[04:59] <thinkl00p> is there a virus scanner for linux?
[04:59] <deuryte> signed.. notso ryte
[04:59] <finet> shane634: better than F-Spot ?
[04:59] <Dr_willis> joe7d6,  about any video card should work with cedega. Now how fast it works with games - is another mater. :)
[04:59] <Jordan_U> Paxton, fglrx is proprietary
[04:59] <shane634> thinkl00p: clamav
[04:59] <johnny_01> whats that mean
[04:59] <Nocivo> trendnet tew423PCI
[04:59] <Jordan_U> !virus | thinkl00p
[04:59] <ubotu> thinkl00p: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:59] <Nocivo> not run. pci wireless
[04:59] <shane634> finet: depends on preferences i suppose
[05:00] <shane634> thinkl00p: AVG is also available for linux
[05:00] <nickrud> thinkl00p: clamav
[05:00] <Paxton> Jordan_U: My bad, confused fglrx with AIGLX. Been busy
[05:00] <deuryte> ive got the ar15, two 9mm's, a 762x39... a 8mm... a , 762x54r.... on your butt right now..... give it up...
[05:00] <Paxton> Jordan_U: a la this: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=887&num=1
[05:00] <nickrud> Paxton: the latest fglrx has aiglx too
[05:00] <Gohan> Ok so I am trying to load ubuntu on my computer and its not working i keep getting an error with the x server.
[05:00] <deuryte> henmo, he, he...
[05:01] <shane634> Gohan: what vid card?
[05:01] <finet> shane634: can it organize my photos according to the directory they are, or better, give my pics the name of the directory it's in as a  tag ?
[05:01] <Gohan> ati 9800 series
[05:01] <Innomen> man
[05:01] <shane634> finet: yes it can.. both can
[05:01] <iobelisk> hi, i understand that i can edit splash screens on boot via /boot/grub/menu.lst but how would i edit a the splash AND log in screen when a session starts?
[05:01] <deuryte> WINDOWS RULES !!!!!!!!!!!  WOOOOOOOOOOOOO.... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[05:01] <johnny_01> this is a tech channel..go to the one i said to so we dont bother these people
[05:01] <InHisName> Some of you think Gutsy is ok to use for host with virtualbox, who is doing this ? Are you happy you did it ?
[05:01] <shane634> Gohan: not sure on the 9800 cards sorry
[05:01] <Innomen> so what wireless cards DOES ubuntu work with out of the box? i'm tempted to go buy one instead of fighting with the wrapper
[05:01] <deuryte> HICK UP..... WHHH ATTT ?
[05:02] <Jordan_U> !ops
[05:02] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[05:02] <shane634> Innomen: dlink dwl122 works outta the box
[05:02] <Gohan> shane, i have read of people being able to do it.  Fedora core loaded with out a hitch the first time???
[05:02] <LiMaO> hey everyone, how's gutsy now?! does it work already? =P
[05:02] <johnny_01> I warned him
[05:02] <elkbuntu> LiMaO, it was released a week ago
[05:02] <tritium> LiMaO: of course :
[05:02] <nickrud> LiMaO: it's always worked
[05:02] <shane634> Gohan: likely a driver issue.. try the nv driver to get it running then work on it
[05:03] <Paxton> Innomen: There's a list of out-of-the-box or minor-involvement hardware on the ubuntu forums
[05:03] <LiMaO> elkbuntu: yeah, i know. i tried it the same day it was released.
[05:03] <finet> shane634: automatically ?
[05:03] <LiMaO> tritium: not really, considering the huge amount of people having problems with it
[05:03] <finet> shane634: I can't find this option in F-Spot...
[05:03] <Gohan> shane, how do i specify it? im tring to boot the live cd of 6.10
[05:03] <Jordan_U> LiMaO, It wont get any better
[05:03] <shane634> finet: no you have to set it up do do so
[05:03] <shane634> Gohan: can you get to a command prompt?
[05:03] <Jordan_U> LiMaO, There are a huge amount of people having problems with every release
[05:03] <LiMaO> nickrud: it didn't work for me. wanna try it?! set your theme to "Crux", then open up OpenOffice Writer and try to 'Format > Page' --> it'll hang
[05:03] <finet> shane634: set it up ? what do you mean ?
[05:04] <Paxton> Innomen: I know that my Wireless-N Adapter didn't work the first time I tried to get it to run, I had to fudge with it for about 10 minutes, turning it on and off and crap like that
[05:04] <Gohan> shane, when its all said and done after it tells me that i have a problem it has the command prompt
[05:04] <nickrud> LiMaO: this channel is not indicative of percentages
[05:04] <shane634> finet: in f-spot there is a tag album setting not sure where it is
[05:04] <LiMaO> Jordan_U: but oh man.. feisty wasn't this troublesome... there were minor problems, that's for sure. but gutsy is giving too much of a headache to most people
[05:04] <Jordan_U> LiMaO, There are also people who will swear by older versions, there were people who suggested not upgrading from Edgy even though it has been the least stable release so far
[05:04] <FoSsiL> where are the core icon themes are located in ubuntu??
[05:04] <johnn1> pidgin is so much nicer than xchat..opinion.
[05:04] <nickrud> breezy forever!
[05:05] <LiMaO> nickrud: i don't care about statistics either.. i help people here and at the ubuntu forums.. but what i care most is about a system that works for me =P
[05:05] <batyy> i need help how can i format a hard disk on xubuntu?
[05:05] <nickrud> FoSsiL: /usr/share/icons
[05:05] <shane634> Gohan: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver to NV or Vesa
[05:05] <Jordan_U> LiMaO, Have you personally had problems with Gutsy?
[05:05] <FoSsiL> thnx
[05:05] <Nocivo> help me
[05:05] <Nocivo> http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img253ma0.jpg
[05:05] <Nocivo> =(
[05:05] <nickrud> I think breezy was my favorite release over all.
[05:05] <LiMaO> Jordan_U: i loved the gutsy feel. it's fast, beautiful, works nice. it sure was a big improvement over the older releases, but too many minor problems
[05:05] <Gohan> shane, vesa is the issue... "VESA (0): cannot read v_bios" thas what it says in the read out from the x thing
[05:05] <shane634> gutsy is running on my old box no issues for what it is worth
[05:06] <LiMaO> Jordan_U: yes, i can list some
[05:06] <shane634> Gohan: turn off shadowing in your bios and try it
[05:06] <LiMaO> Jordan_U: openoffice doesn't work correctly with some themes. compiz gives problems with some wine applications, even if it's turned off.
[05:06] <DG19075> I'm still looking for the Ubuntu Studio theme that Feisty used. the version for 7.10(which I'm running) is the pits. Where to find the old one?
[05:07] <LiMaO> Jordan_U: my panels kept disappearing all the time, i had to right click them to have them back
[05:07] <Gohan> shane, umm yeah what? not sure how to get to the bios... unless you are talking about hittin f8 on boot
[05:07] <Jordan_U> Nocivo, I can't read that very well and I wouldn't understand it if I could, does that mean about the same as the input to the monitor is out of range?
[05:07] <vulcanius> anyone's firefox randomly spike it's CPU usage?
[05:07] <shane634> Gohan: yes where you switch boot order and what not
[05:07] <batyy> i need help how can i format a hard disk on xubuntu?
[05:07] <LiMaO> Jordan_U: nautilus would freeze all the time when browsing folders with many files (over 500 for instance)
[05:07] <shane634> batyy: gparted
[05:07] <Jordan_U> !gparted | batyy
[05:07] <ubotu> batyy: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:07] <Gohan> shane, so turn off shadowning and then do the driver switch? or does one negate the other?
[05:08] <shane634> Gohan: sometimes it depends.. but it is a starting point
[05:08] <shane634> Gohan: does the NV driver not work at all?
[05:08] <Gohan> shane, and when it does something different come back and tell you guys about it?   Last ditch effort:  I need help disabling grub, else I bricked my computer.
[05:09] <shane634> Gohan: yeah i will be here for a bit lol
[05:09] <Gohan> shane, nv driver? as in nivida?
[05:09] <Gohan> shane, not sure what that means nv?
[05:09] <nickrud> LiMaO: oowriter won't even open with crux set (I'd forgotten just how ugly crux was)
[05:10] <shane634> Gohan: yes but make sure it says "NV" not "nvidia"
[05:10] <shane634> Gohan: it is a generic driver to get ya going
[05:10] <hvgotcodes> whats the font seen at this url http://icedloki.deviantart.com/art/Desktop-as-seen-on-10-02-07-1-66401635?
[05:10] <darkhack> I'm back all
[05:10] <Gohan> shane, this is actually the farthest i have gotten i was burning cds at to high a speed and they were roached from start... ill go try
[05:10] <lucianno> nickrud, the file of icewm is in my pc, but cant to see in synapitc??
[05:11] <shane634> Gohan: check the md5sum on those disks
[05:11] <Gohan> shane, ok from now on talk to me like i dont know what im doing in linux... ok cause its true
[05:11] <shane634> Gohan: if bad new coasters lol
[05:11] <Gohan> shane, i ran the check for defect thing
[05:11] <Evanlec> Dan_L, why would u wanna disable grub? grub is the way to un-brick your computer ;)
[05:11] <nickrud> lucianno: system->admin->software sources, make sure that main, universe, restricted, and multiverse (in parens at the end of each line) is checked
[05:12] <LiMaO> nickrud: i used to like crux window borders.. but i prefer them to be blue, or green =P
[05:12] <Dan_L> Evanlec, I gave up on the ubuntu experiment for now.
[05:12] <darkhack> Just to let all of you ati user know that the new driver is a bit buggy and you will experience video click, firefox scroll slow, desktop screen flick with border, and so on
[05:12] <Evanlec> Dan_L, was that bad eh?
[05:12] <Dan_L> No.  I couldn't get it to run.  I'd like to run it.
[05:12] <ubuntu> hi can someone help me install local package?
[05:12] <darkhack> video flick I meant
[05:12] <LiMaO> nickrud: but don't you think it's kind of strange? an application not working with a theme that comes by default with ubuntu??
[05:12] <nickrud> LiMaO: I use nodoka with spifcity as my borders
[05:12] <shane634> Gohan: lol ok i am a newb myself
[05:12] <procvbar> I am using vmware to run winxp on my 7.10 ubuntu install...but i cant use bridged networking because i am on wifi through my laptop...however when i set up nat it only works until i restart my computer, after i restart, ubuntu cant cnonect to the internet and either can vmware
[05:12] <Evanlec> Dan_L, okay, can u give me some more info, were u trying to dual-boot?
[05:12] <runar_> Is there a keyboard launcher available for X, like QuickSilver, Approcket, Launchy?
[05:12] <Dan_L> Evanlec, anyway, Grub is still on the pc.  I want to get back into windows.  but Grub is throwing me an error.
[05:12] <Dan_L> Yeah.
[05:12] <procvbar> how do i fixi t
[05:13] <LiMaO> nickrud: nodoka.. it's the default for opensuse or fedora, isn't it?
[05:13] <joshjosh> Nothing will automount via USB. Any ideas? This has been broken since my first gutsy install.
[05:13] <nickrud> LiMaO: no, it's a defective theme. Probably hasn't been maintained and gtk is now exposing a bug
[05:13] <Evanlec> Dan_L, okay, did u actually finish the ubuntu installation?
[05:13] <nickrud> LiMaO: fedora I beleive
[05:13] <LiMaO> nickrud: i just wish i could find some nice looking themes for ubuntu. gnome-look only has ugly stuff
[05:13] <Dan_L> Evanlec, Yes.  But I blew away the partition.
[05:13] <nickrud> LiMaO: +1
[05:13] <Evanlec> Dan_L, using what method?
[05:13] <joshjosh> LiMaO, Mix and match to make it how you want.
[05:13] <Dan_L> In my stupidity, I forgot that the grub bootload attached to the MBR.  Now I can't get around Grub.
[05:14] <darkhack> ati is hearding in the right direction and I'm sure amd stock will go up next year
[05:14] <Dan_L> Evanlec, alternate (text) isntaller
[05:14] <wind> what is the kernel number for gutsy?
[05:14] <ubuntu> never mind i got it! :)
[05:14] <SeveredCross> 2.6.22-14-generic
[05:14] <Evanlec> Dan_L, okay but how did u delete the partition?
[05:14] <LiMaO> joshjosh: the problem is that mixing a bad window border with bad controls won't make it look good hehe
[05:14] <wind> ty
[05:14] <runar_> LiMaO: xmonad looks quite nice
[05:14] <SeveredCross> Yw wind. :)
[05:14] <darkhack> <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:14] <joshjosh> LiMaO, ooook
[05:14] <Bonster> wind: uname -r
[05:14] <Dan_L> Evanlec, via the vista disk management screen.
[05:14] <LiMaO> joshjosh: tell me where i can find 'clorophile' and i'll be happy... it's one of the defaults in opensuse
[05:14]  * nickrud looks at the ~.9% of visitors to his sites that use linux, and laughs at the idea of good linux drivers affecting ati's stock
[05:15] <LiMaO> runar_: gonna check it out
[05:15] <Evanlec> Dan_L, okay...now before u did that, after u installed ubuntu, were u able to boot windows?
[05:15] <Dan_L> Yes.
[05:15] <SeveredCross> LiMaO, you can probably copy it from OpenSuSE.
[05:15] <Evanlec> Dan_L, okay, but ubuntu wouldnt boot?
[05:15] <SeveredCross> It should be in /opt/gnome/themes or something like that.
[05:15] <joshjosh> LiMaO, you sure you spelled that right?
[05:16] <shane634> LiMaO: if it is available as an rpm alien may help
[05:16] <Dan_L> Evanlec, Ubuntu would not boot.  It would hang at the splash screen
[05:16] <Evanlec> Dan_L, what version of ubuntu?
[05:16] <LiMaO> joshjosh: almost sure.. but i may be wrong
[05:16] <Dan_L> Gutsy.
[05:16] <Evanlec> Dan_L, 32-bit or 64?
[05:16] <joshjosh> LiMaO, because searching for clorophile opensuse, clorophile gnome...none of that returns much of anything in google.
[05:16] <lucianno> nickrud, i want move the file for other package?
[05:16] <varsendagger> hey guys I need to know how to fix Grub....  my boss is dual booting and i am thinking about running fix mbr but i don't wnat to destroy the whole HD aobut
[05:17] <Dan_L> Evanlec, 64 bit
[05:17] <Evanlec> Dan_L, interesting, are u by chance using an nvidia card?
[05:17] <musikgoat> anyone know how to take a screenshot while looking at the compiz cube?
[05:17] <nickrud> ubotu, tell luciano about components
[05:17] <Gohan> shane, thats a no go on the shadowing option.
[05:17] <LiMaO> joshjosh: yeah, i had tried that.. right now i'm checking this site http://www.suse-art.org/
[05:17] <shane634> Gohan: how about the NV option?
[05:18] <musikgoat> nickrud: is ubotu changing syntax now?
[05:18] <nickrud> lucianno: you should read that message from ubotu, it'll tell you a bit about how software is organized in ubuntu
[05:18] <r00723r0> how do i get a temperature sensor applet in my panel?
[05:18] <musikgoat> i didn't know that was a valid command
[05:18] <Gohan> shane, after i was in the bios it just auto booted to windows so i thought to come see what you would say... the nv option will take considerably longer
[05:18] <nickrud> musikgoat: no, I was informed that I was years behind, bots have known that syntax for a while. I like it, it's conversational :)
[05:18] <Jordan_U> nickrud, Second attempt at installing ubuntu-desktop...
[05:18] <Evanlec> !info lm-sensors | r00723r0
[05:18] <ubotu> r00723r0: lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra.   It's a Geforce card on a laptop.
[05:19] <etherael> anyone had any success getting a2dp to work with ubuntu 7.10?
[05:19] <Gohan> shane, right o... back when i get there. hopefully though linux
[05:19] <r00723r0> Evanlec: i have it
[05:19] <thinkl00p> best way to run a windows based app in linux is what? wine?
[05:19] <r00723r0> but it's not the panel
[05:19] <nickrud> lucianno: then you'll have a better idea about using synaptic to install
[05:19] <kalibur_>  anyone know to get a remote working in ubuntu
[05:19] <Dan_L> Evanlec, so yes.  It is a Nvidia chipset
[05:19] <KoN> anyone know about a desktop freezing problem that involves gutsy and the current nvidia driver, i need help?
[05:19] <musikgoat> thinkl00p: yes
[05:19] <Jordan_U> nickrud, Actually I just don't have anywhere to back up my data for a re-install right now :)
[05:19] <shane634> gohan ok
[05:19] <nickrud> Jordan_U: you desperate masochist ;)
[05:19] <Evanlec> Dan_L, im just curious because i had the exact same issue with ubuntu 64-bit, would hang at the splash, i got very frustrated with it, but all i had to do was disable the splash screen and it worked no problem
[05:19] <nosklo> thinkl00p: if you cant find similar native software
[05:20] <thinkl00p> okape!
[05:20] <Evanlec> Dan_L, its a bug that others have reported as well
[05:20] <Jordan_U> nickrud, If this doesn't work I will have a place tomorrow though and it will be the first thing I do :)
[05:20] <robc4> I got a question about a Ubuntu Server, running a who or a w command shows that there are 3 users logged in, but only one is running a tty session
[05:20] <Jordan_U> nickrud, Holy. Shit.
[05:20] <nickrud> Jordan_U: If you get it working, it'd be a good howto
[05:20] <robc4> is this due to other processes?
[05:20] <nickrud> working?
[05:20] <Dan_L> Evanlec,  I saw people who were able to get Ubuntu running on this laptop.  But most of them were a bit over my head.  I don't know what NOAPIC is.   - as you might guess.  :)
[05:21] <r00723r0> Evanlec: do you know?
[05:21] <Jordan_U> nickrud, It actually worked, ubuntu-desktop is now installed
[05:21] <nickrud> Jordan_U: congrats
[05:21] <amicrawler> is there a irc chat room for remotes for players?
[05:21] <elliott541a> robc4: What about ssh sessions? would those count?
[05:21] <robc4> yea, they might, but that is the only user
[05:21]  * nickrud wonders if Jordan_U deserves a 24 ban, lol
[05:21] <robc4> I am connected via SSH
[05:21] <Evanlec> Dan_L, oh im sure u could get it running, i urge you to give it another shot ;)
[05:21] <aoirthoir> on a laptop when we change the volume a big volume popup appears..in fiesty it was smaller..is there a way to make it so that doesnt appear at all?
[05:22] <DShepherd> has gnome 2.20.1 made it in the ubuntu repos yet?
[05:22] <Evanlec> Jordan_U, what is this amazing feat you accomplished?
[05:22] <peepsalot> i tried to apt-get install gparted and it appears to be stuck in the install process
[05:22] <Dan_L> Evanlec, well let's start with this:  can yout hink of a way to fix Grub sot aht it doesn't keep me from Windows?
[05:23] <peepsalot> it's just sitting here at: Setting up gparted (0.3.3-2ubuntu6) ...
[05:23] <Evanlec> Dan_L, yea sure i could, but im afraid if i tell you, you'll give up on ubuntu
[05:23] <musikgoat> anyone know how to take a screenshot while looking at the compiz cube?
[05:23] <cube> how do i make a wallpaper for compiz fusion (the top / bottom of the cube)
[05:23] <joejoe> can someone tell me the address for the hoary repos ?
[05:23] <nickrud> !grub | Dan_L (but come back :)
[05:23] <ubotu> Dan_L (but come back :): grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:23] <shane634> cube: the printscreen button
[05:23] <Bonster> musikgoat: printscreen key?
[05:23] <cube> musikgoat: I make desktop videos of it with gtk-recordmydesktop
[05:23] <joejoe> anyone ?
[05:24] <cube> shane the key lets me do that?
[05:24] <defrysk> musikgoat, set your screenshooter to a delay of 4 or more seconds (gimp > aquire has this feature i believe)
[05:24] <aynjell> Hello, all.
[05:24] <aynjell> New to ubuntu.
[05:24] <shane634> cube: it should
[05:24] <musikgoat> Bonster: really?  with the key combination active for the cube?
[05:24] <cube> change the wallpaper?
[05:24] <aynjell> Having some problems getting my mouse working right.
[05:24] <nickrud> joejoe: try old-releases.ubuntu.com
[05:24] <cube> control alt activates it
[05:24] <joejoe> nickrud thank you.
[05:24] <Evanlec> nickrud, heh, he blew away his ubuntu partition using vista cd, now he cant boot windows, im thinkin all he has to do is boot the livecd and edit his menu.lst ...
[05:24] <musikgoat> defrysk: i will try to find that
[05:24] <tuntun> Yesterday when I started an XP guest in Workstation, it started to throttle my hdd, bringing ubuntu to a crawl, not stopping until I was forced to do a hard reset because the system was barely responsive. Now I can't run the vm because its so slow; it was working fine until yesterday. Why would this start happening?
[05:24] <Bonster> musikgoat: use ur left and right mouse for the cube
[05:25] <gluttony> how can i access one distros drive from another on the same hard drive?
[05:25] <peepsalot> joejoe,
[05:25] <peepsalot> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44161
[05:25] <LiMaO> joshjosh: the theme may be called Chlorophyll
[05:25] <marlon_> #ubuntu-sv
[05:25] <ubuntu_> hi
[05:25] <nickrud> Evanlec: Dan_L you should look around for a windows mbr rescue utility, rewrite the mbr that way
[05:25] <aynjell> Can anyone help me?
[05:25] <Evanlec> gluttony, u mean access another distro's partition? thats easy
[05:25] <peepsalot> gluttony, you mean a different partition?
[05:25] <ubuntu_> please help me install sun-java5-plugin
[05:25] <peepsalot> you have to mount it
[05:26] <ssmK> Hey guys, I have a quick question...
[05:26] <nickrud> Evanlec: if he blew away ubuntu, there is no menu.lst
[05:26] <ssmK> I just did an install of 7.10 without the internet
[05:26] <ubuntu_> im getting error
[05:26] <Evanlec> nickrud, even if he keeps grub on there, shouldnt it work to just boot windows? ohhhh yea thats a good point
[05:26] <ssmK> and I noticed it had a very OS X Leopard spaces sort of thing going on
[05:26] <Dan_L> Nickrud, I've been hunting like mad for it.  If I could get into a prompt or something I could fix it.
[05:26] <ssmK> like I could drag a window across the screen
[05:26] <Evanlec> nickrud, didnt think about that lol
[05:26] <ssmK> and it would go to the next desktop over
[05:26] <nickrud> Dan_L: doesn't the vista cd have a rescue mode?
[05:26] <gluttony> Evanlec, yeah. im using mepis at the moment and i want to get my /home folder off my 'crashed' ubuntu partition
[05:26] <ssmK> but then I reinstalled, this time, with an active internet connection
[05:26] <tuntun> Het ubotu, what does an exclamation mark refer to?
[05:26] <Evanlec> Dan_L, i'd say your best bet is to re-install ubuntu ;)
[05:26] <joeamined> hi folks
[05:26] <ssmK> and the 'Spaces' virtual desktops are gone :(
[05:27] <tuntun> ubotu?
[05:27] <joeamined> how can i prevent non-admin users from removing the panel ?
[05:27] <Dan_L> It's a very queer issue.  For some odd reason, it just ignores the recovery disks.
[05:27] <shane634> !uboto
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <Evanlec> gluttony, it should be as simple as mounting the ubuntu partition in mepis...
[05:27] <nickrud> tuntun: the ! at the beginning of a line tells ubotu the line is meant for it
[05:27] <cube> how do i change the cubes top and bottom color into a image in compiz?
[05:27] <ubuntu0777> i tried sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[05:27] <ubuntu0777> but i get error msg
[05:27] <tookie> johhny 01??
[05:27] <Evanlec> Dan_L, recovery disks are...bleh
[05:27] <gluttony> Evanlec, can you tell me how? i've never had to use a mount command
[05:27] <cube> use the package manager for java
[05:27] <Bonster> tuntun: ubotu is a bot
[05:27] <tuntun> nickrud: ok
[05:27] <johnn1> yea
[05:28] <Dan_L> Evanlec, that's why I'm trying to either figure out a way to disable grub
[05:28] <johnn1> lol
[05:28] <johnn1> tookie
[05:28] <Dan_L> *or* fix the problem through grub
[05:28] <lysdexic> heyas, have a slight problem that Im hoping I can get some help with, have a new install here that uses ndiwrapper for my bcm wireless. I also have an NFS server that I am attempting to automount shares on via fstab...
[05:28] <Evanlec> gluttony, well first list all the partitions that linux detects using 'fdisk -l'
[05:28] <cube> shane: print screen didn't work for changing the cubes top and bottom to a image
[05:28] <joeamined> hi folks
[05:28] <tookie> henmo, he ,he
[05:28] <ubuntu0777> synaptic?
[05:28] <marik> hey i'm in a livecd trying to get my bios raid working.  when i run `dmraid -s`, my raid set shows up, but when i run `dmraid -ay` nothing gets created in /dev/mapper/ can anyone help?
[05:28] <tuntun> ubotu I'll give you a botsnack if you say hello!
[05:28] <joeamined> how can i prevent non admin users from removing the panel ?
[05:28] <cube> yeah use synaptic package manager and search java
[05:28] <Evanlec> Dan_L, i think you should re-install ubuntu, im serious, that will fix your boot problem, and then i can help you get ubuntu running
[05:29] <shane634> cube: that is done in the system tab for compiz
[05:29] <wind> hey can someone help me finish this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=309533  i'm on the part where you have to do "sudo cp sony_acpi.ko /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/ubuntu/acpi/" i replace it with the gutsy kernel number and it gives me the error "cp: cannot create regular file `/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/ubuntu/acpi': No such file or directory" ... help?
[05:29] <lysdexic> I can manually mount said shares, but they wont mount via fstab, I suspect that the card is still trying to go up as the shares are attempting to mounbt (on startup)
[05:29] <cube> shane: where??
[05:29] <lysdexic> mount*
[05:29] <miguel> can anybody help me with the network manager?
[05:29] <tookie> these ppl take anything other than a kiss the butt phrase as a terrorist threat.. to thee ego...
[05:29] <tuntun> *botsnaclk*
[05:29] <gluttony> Evanlec, ok
[05:29] <cube> i can't find it anywhere in compiz advanced effects
[05:29] <shane634> cube: the settings for compiz
[05:29] <cube> shane: im there..
[05:29] <Evanlec> gluttony, pastebin the output for me
[05:29] <tookie> deuryte remembers...
[05:29] <gluttony> Evanlec, do i do 'mount (device)'
[05:29] <johnn1> pvt me tookie
[05:29] <ubuntu> E: sun-java5-bin: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[05:29] <ubuntu> E: sun-java5-plugin: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[05:30] <tookie> ?
[05:30] <lysdexic> miguel; whats up?
[05:30] <ubuntu> any1 help?
[05:30] <tuntun> *hands ubotu a handfull of botsnacks*
[05:30] <Dan_L> Think it could be done without destroying the vista partition?
[05:30] <Evanlec> gluttony, yes, mount <device> <target directory>
[05:30] <Evanlec> Dan_L, definitely
[05:30] <renato1> how do i habilitate a fat32 partition on ubuntu?
[05:30] <vbabiy> Hey is there any GTK developers here
[05:30] <gluttony> Evanlec, do i have to specify the directory?
[05:30] <livefoniks> But destroy the Vista partition anyway.  :-)
[05:30] <tuntun> !channel
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about channel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <Dr_willis> renato1,  Huh?
[05:30] <livefoniks> Just kidding.
[05:30] <shane634> !developers
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about developers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <Bonster> renato1: power setting under system
[05:30] <miguel> well, anytime that i open ubuntu, i have to activate the wired network, it is there any method to do it automatically?
[05:31] <johnn1> tookie...try doing a whois on my nic..maybe that will work
[05:31] <Evanlec> gluttony, u specify the directory on your current disk that u want to mount the device to, for example the default is /media/disk
[05:31] <renato1> i already tried to habilitate trought driver application
[05:31] <cube> Shane: I went through all of the seperate configurations and didn't see a option for adding a image to it, do you know what its called?
[05:31] <renato1> but it's not working
[05:31] <nickrud> Dan_L: you might try downloading freedos and using fdisk \mbr
[05:31] <Evanlec> gluttony, well thats the default for ubuntu, donno bout mepis
[05:31] <tuntun> Yesterday when I started an XP guest in Workstation, it started to throttle my hdd, bringing ubuntu to a crawl, not stopping until I was forced to do a hard reset because the system was barely responsive. Now I can't run the vm because its so slow; it was working fine until yesterday. Why would this start happening?
[05:31] <Gohan> shane, no dice bro. I did the nano/etc thing and it pulled up a blanke txt editor
[05:31] <shane634> cube: sorry i don't off the top of my head
[05:31] <renato1> dr_willis there's a partition that i did when i was still on windows
[05:31] <cube> shane: I went through every setting
[05:31] <Bonster> renato1: does it go to sleep mode?
[05:31] <Evanlec> nickrud, shhh, i convinced him to reinstall ubuntu ;)
[05:31] <renato1> and now i can't view it on linux
[05:31] <wind> can anyone help?
[05:31] <renato1> no bonster
[05:31] <Dan_L> Nickrud, but how do I run Freedos ?
[05:31] <wind> hey can someone help me finish this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=309533  i'm on the part where you have to do "sudo cp sony_acpi.ko /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/ubuntu/acpi/" i replace it with the gutsy kernel number and it gives me the error "cp: cannot create regular file `/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/ubuntu/acpi': No such file or directory" ... help?
[05:31] <lysdexic> miguel; how do you start the network manually? modprobe?
[05:31] <cube> have you done it?
[05:31] <gluttony> Evanlec, whats the best mount directory? should i just do the directory you just siad?
[05:32] <Dan_L> well
[05:32] <Dan_L> wait.
[05:32] <tuntun> !love
[05:32] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[05:32] <nickrud> Dan_L: it's a clone of dos 6.2 , you boot it
[05:32] <renato1> yay
[05:32] <shane634> Gohan: was the syntax exactly as i typed it?
[05:32] <renato1> it worked
[05:32] <renato1> :P
[05:32] <Dan_L> I wonder if I could boot it from a CD rom
[05:32] <joeamined> please folks
[05:32] <Evanlec> gluttony, it really doesnt matter, yea u could do the one i said, just mkdir the directory first
[05:32] <joeamined> is removing the panel linked to a privilege
[05:32] <joeamined> ?
[05:32] <Gohan> shane, sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[05:32] <renato1> i need to change the access point :P
[05:32] <shane634> Gohan: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:32] <miguel> no, i click on the icon and then select wired network
[05:32] <Bonster> use gedit instead of nano
[05:32] <ubuntu0777> please help me
[05:32] <shane634> Gohan:  that X has to be capital
[05:33] <ubuntu0777> :(
[05:33] <Gohan> shane, bah
[05:33] <Evanlec> nickrud, i got Dan_L covered
[05:33] <cube> anyone know how to add a image to the cube in compiz?
[05:33] <Gohan> brb
[05:33] <joeamined> :(
[05:33] <Dan_L> Evanlec, can I private you while I do this?
[05:33] <joeamined> no one is helping me:(
[05:33] <johnn1> hey tookie
[05:33] <tookie> must install libnotify b 4 anything will work...
[05:33] <nickrud> Evanlec: good, keeping him in the family is good :)
[05:33] <ubuntu0777> i tried sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin but nothing :(
[05:33] <lysdexic> miguel, if there is a tick in the checkbox for wired network, it should save it and start auto (in my own experience it does)
[05:33] <PaPaFD> cube: enable cube caps
[05:33] <Troubled_Youth> =/
[05:34] <shane634> joeamined: perhaps no one knows the answer be patient
[05:34] <nickrud> Dan_L: but for your info, it has a livecd version
[05:34] <Evanlec> nickrud, aye ;)
[05:34] <johnn1> stand by for a link tookie
[05:34] <johnn1> last time
[05:34] <Bonster> ubuntu0777: go to jave site and find the deb files
[05:34] <cube> papa: ty!
[05:34]  * nickrud believes in full disclosure :)
[05:34] <cindy> hello hello
[05:34] <vulcanius> hrm... be careful with changing JRMs
[05:34] <patbam> how can i tell what is running on which of my ports? i'm trying to run a daemon called mpd, but it says a particular port it wants is taken -- i want to know by wha
[05:34] <patbam> t
[05:35] <gluttony> Evanlec, what would the directory be to mount to the desktop? ~/Desktop right?
[05:35] <miguel> that's the problem, everytime i have to put the tick, don't know what's happening, this is since i installed gutsy
[05:35] <Tem> sudo apt-get install sun-java-jre
[05:35] <tookie> johnny. last time what ?
[05:35] <Evanlec> gluttony, mm maybe but i wouldnt mount to the desktop...
[05:35] <Tem> s/java/java6/
[05:35] <shane634> use add/remove in the menu for java
[05:35] <cindy> does anyone know why manual network connection wouldn´t utilize a wi-fi card that the kernel says is present?
[05:36] <Troubled_Youth> Hey I'm getting an error from deskbar-applet when I run sudo apt-get install -f
[05:36] <Bonster> cooL
[05:36] <thinkl00p> whats a good program in ubuntu to use to burn audio/data cd's
[05:37] <Troubled_Youth> hrmmm
[05:37] <shane634> thinkl00p: k3b
[05:37] <thinkl00p> tks
[05:37] <nickrud> Troubled_Youth: could you put the full output of apt-get -f install on a pastebin?
[05:37] <tookie> JESUS said.. id a man looketh upon a woman to lust after her in his heart.. he has committed adultry already in his heart... . death.
[05:37] <Bonster> thinkl00p: gnomebaker
[05:37] <Neodudeman> does anyone know of any voice command/recognition software for ubuntu or windows?
[05:37] <nickrud> thinkl00p: and serpentine
[05:37] <gluttony> Evanlec, my mkdir commands dont seem to do anything
[05:37] <aynjell> Can I get some help with imwheel, please?
[05:37] <cindy> dragon naturally speaking
[05:37] <Troubled_Youth> I'm sorry...pastebin? :p
[05:37] <Neodudeman> dragon works in ubuntu?
[05:37] <shane634> yes dragon is the best i have seen
[05:38] <tookie> johnny ?
[05:38] <cindy> pastebin i love
[05:38] <geeknik> How do I update Pidgin on Ubuntu 7.10 from 2.2.1 to 2.2.2? There is a security advisory on Pidgin 2.2.1 and there is nothing in the Update Manager.
[05:38] <johnn1> tookie
[05:38] <Bonster> whats pastebin?
[05:38] <Zippy2> i have all the compiz things setup but my intel card wont start it in 7.10
[05:38] <tookie> sup
[05:38] <shane634> !pastebin
[05:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:38] <peepsalot> well, i think it's time to finally wipe out this install and start over
[05:38] <Evanlec> gluttony, make sure ur root
[05:38] <tookie> ru486 is a murderer...
[05:38] <gluttony> Evanlec, i am
[05:38] <Troubled_Youth> Oh cool ^.^
[05:38] <Bonster> poo
[05:38] <tritium> gluttony: using sudo ir the prefered approach
[05:38] <tookie> for pleasure...
[05:39] <tookie> nice trade...
[05:39] <cindy> is anyone here using networkmanager?
[05:39] <Evanlec> gluttony, ur saying the directory isnt being created?
[05:39] <tritium> tookie: please, stay on topic
[05:39] <ubuntu0777> please please help me. msg me. sun-java5-plugin is not installing
[05:39] <darx> hi. can i use two mice, keyboards and monitors on the same computer and use them simultaneously as two sessions? and if yes how?
[05:39] <nickrud> geeknik: it should show up in gutsy-security soon
[05:39] <tritium> Evanlec: s/ur/you're
[05:39] <tookie> i am
[05:39] <geeknik> nickrud: thanks.
[05:39] <tritium> tookie: no, the topic here is ubuntu
[05:39] <gluttony> Evanlec, yeah. or i dont see it
[05:39] <nickrud> geeknik: um, that's experience, not direct knowledge
[05:40] <Evanlec> gluttony, where are u making the directory? give me your exact command
[05:40] <tookie> ok , is that why this is ubuntu chat?  asking... hoestly
[05:40] <tritium> ubuntu0777: what's it doing?
[05:40] <geeknik> nickrud: ok. better then nothing. ;) only took a couple of days to see a firefox update to <IP_ADDRESS> from <IP_ADDRESS>. ;)
[05:40] <Troubled_Youth> Think I did it right o_O
[05:40] <Ni_Ten> I have a newly aquired problem.  With 6.06 and 7.10, with the addition of opengl compositing, I can only run my desktop in what seems to be 16bit color mode.  I am using a laptop with an intel 82830M graphics controller.  How can I get 32/24 bit color?
[05:40] <JohnRobert> what's the standard dev tools package called on ubuntu?
[05:40] <Troubled_Youth> nickrud: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42187/
[05:40] <gluttony> mkdir /media/disk
[05:40] <nickrud> geeknik: lol,
[05:40] <Evanlec> tookie, u want to be in #ubuntu-offtopic i think
[05:40] <Bonster> ubuntu0777: java is in the snaptic repos
[05:41] <tookie> new.. how do i get there??
[05:41] <geeknik> tookie:  /part #ubuntu /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:41] <nickrud> Troubled_Youth: ouch, a sec
[05:41] <ubuntu0777> Error: could not find libjava.so
[05:41] <ubuntu0777> Error: could not find Java 2 Runtime Environment.
[05:41] <tritium> ubuntu0777: it's in the multiverse repo
[05:41] <ubuntu0777> tri, what do u mean?
[05:41] <tritium> ubuntu0777: how are you installing it?  synaptic, apt-get, aptitude?
[05:41] <ubuntu0777> apt-get
[05:41] <thinkl00p> can't install k3b without installing kde ?
[05:42] <DShepherd> Troubled_Youth, wat? whats happening there
[05:42] <ubuntu0777> tri, i tried all ways
[05:42] <geeknik> ubuntu0777: it's okay, I can't get the java7 plugin to work either. :) firefox just keeps telling me to install it over and over and over. I even self built it. Still no worky.
[05:42] <Troubled_Youth> Just upgraded from 7.04 x.X
[05:42] <Bonster> ubuntu0777: look got sun-java6-bin
[05:42] <tritium> !multiverse | ubuntu0777
[05:42] <ubotu> ubuntu0777: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:42] <johnn1> tookie
[05:42] <robc4> I was reading my 6.10 installer hardware-summary and found some spelling errors, what is the best way to get them fixed?
[05:42] <Evanlec> thinkl00p, no, u can install it in gnome
[05:42] <thinkl00p> from synaptic?
[05:42] <tritium> sun-java5-* and sun-java6-* packages are avialable in the repos
[05:43] <Bonster> sad
[05:43] <tuntun> ubuntu0777: could you find it in synaptic?
[05:43] <ubuntu0777> tun , yes but it gets an error when i install
[05:43] <user01> am i too cynical about compiz?  is it really a good thing?
[05:43] <Evanlec> thinkl00p, ya
[05:43] <DShepherd> are the gnome 2.20.1 changes in the ubuntu repos yet? if not, anyone know when they will hit?
[05:43] <ubuntu0777> Error: could not find libjava.so
[05:43] <ubuntu0777> Error: could not find Java 2 Runtime Environment.
[05:43] <DShepherd> user01, its is useful
[05:43] <shane634> user01: it is still under development.. it is getting better all the time
[05:44] <geeknik> i like compiz.
[05:44] <Evanlec> user01, its nice, it actually gets old real fast tho
[05:44] <Bonster> user01: try it and remove if u dont like it simple as that
[05:44] <thinkl00p> Evanlec: how do you install k3b without installing all of the KDE base stuff.. I select it and it wants to install like 30 files?
[05:44] <cindy> user01 Compiz makes life fun and computing more easily learned
[05:44] <user01> yes but to be installed by default in gutsy?
[05:44] <Evanlec> thinkl00p, well it is gonna want to install the kde libraries, because it is a kde app...thats the drawback
[05:44] <tritium> thinkl00p: it needs certain libraries to run
[05:44] <gluttony> Evanlec, mkdir /media/disk
[05:44] <Troubled_Youth> I'll like Compiz more when it works fully for me xD
[05:44] <marik> hey i'm in a livecd trying to get my bios raid working.  when i run `dmraid -s`, my raid set shows up, but when i run `dmraid -ay` nothing gets created in /dev/mapper/ can anyone help?
[05:44] <clegane> how do I get conky to load at startup? put it in .xinitrc or something like that?
[05:44] <peepsalot> how can i get a list of all installed packages in the terminal, one per line?
[05:44] <tuntun> ubuntu0777: well you could always install it manually, its quite easy...
[05:44] <cindy> user01 why not?
[05:44] <Evanlec> thinkl00p, but its nowhere near to installing kde itself ;p
[05:44] <tritium> peepsalot: dpkg -l
[05:44] <DShepherd> !startup | clegane,
[05:44] <ubotu> clegane,: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[05:44] <thinkl00p> oh ok thank you
[05:45] <shane634> thinkl00p: that is a metapackage deal you get some cool stuff and some you will never use lol
[05:45] <ubuntu0777> tun, how?
[05:45] <tookie> oh oh eh eh tookie tookie.
[05:45] <tookie> johnny ?
[05:45] <tritium> tookie: please stop
[05:45] <clegane> ubotu, thanks, i had looked for that before, but must have been having a brain fart or something
[05:45] <Evanlec> gluttony, alright, does /media even exist?
[05:45] <miguel> well thanks
[05:45] <geeknik> speaking of System>Preferences>Sessions>Startup Programs.. I have remove things from it, but they still startup.
[05:45] <user01> cindy: like shane634 said its still under development . . . and i dont see how it really makes you more productive
[05:45] <johnn1> tookie
[05:45] <nickrud> Troubled_Youth: ok, there's no bug for that, a sec more
[05:45] <tookie> sorry, just looking for friend...
[05:45] <peepsalot> !ubotu
[05:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:45] <gluttony> Evanlec, um.... no... damn...
[05:46] <tookie> where do wee go??
[05:46] <johnn1> irc://irc.icq.com:6667   click this and go to the specified room
[05:46] <Bonster> geeknik: save session
[05:46] <peepsalot> clegane, ubotu is a bot, not a person
[05:46] <user01> its nice for putting on shows but to me thats about it
[05:46] <Troubled_Youth> Take your time. I've tried about all I know to fix it..which isn't much ^.^
[05:46] <mlalkaka> Does the emacs22-gtk package come with xft support for antialiasing fonts?
[05:46] <Evanlec> gluttony, okay how about /mnt does that exist?
[05:46] <clegane> doh
[05:46] <cindy> user01: it may not make you more productive, but for accessability and learning itś a great tool
[05:46] <shane634> and it is purty
[05:46] <tuntun> ubuntu0777: download from and follow instructions from : https://sdlc2b.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=9C4C0B3184EACA371B28C3BC0D3B569D
[05:46] <clegane> lol
[05:46] <tritium> tuntun: no
[05:47] <gluttony> Evanlec, no
[05:47] <tritium> ubuntu0777: let's get the ubuntu package installed.  That's cleaner.
[05:47] <clegane> that explains the exclamation syntax; didn't understand that before
[05:47] <tuntun> tritium: no what?
[05:47] <Evanlec> gluttony, christ, where is the default mount directory on mepis then
[05:47] <tookie> adminidtratores, i apologize, i'm totally new, so i'm still learning. sorry to invde..
[05:47] <tritium> tuntun: it's packaged for ubuntu
[05:47] <cindy> anyone using NetworkManager?
[05:47] <gluttony> Evanlec. i dont have a clue
[05:47] <tookie> invade
[05:47] <tuntun> tritium: it works fine.
[05:47] <user01> cindy:  what do you learn with compiz?
[05:47] <tritium> tuntun: it's not as clean
[05:48] <tookie> u ppl seem 2 b on it.. sharpe...
[05:48] <musikgoat> cindy: i'm sure a quite a few people are
[05:48] <johnn1> U loaded the wrong x chat bro..re-do
[05:48] <tritium> tuntun: any time there is an ubuntu package available, that's preferable
[05:48] <tookie> like it !!
[05:48] <nickrud> Troubled_Youth: I'd put exit 0 on line 2, then see if apt-get -f install worked. If so, I'd immediatly purge the package
[05:48] <shane634> cindy: i never had any luck with network manager.. just my experience
[05:48] <tuntun> tritium: well it works.
[05:48] <user01> cindy:  i learned it is still in development :)
[05:48] <Gohan> shane, so i did that and nothing happen... it changed the file but then just sat there
[05:48] <tritium> tuntun: but it's not under package management.
[05:48] <cindy> shane634: thank you
[05:48] <tookie> sorry admin's
[05:48] <tookie> johnny ?>?
[05:49] <johnn1> what
[05:49] <gluttony> Evanlec. cd ~/media/disk worked.....
[05:49] <tookie> sup ???
[05:49] <tuntun> tritium: it esentially IS the package...
[05:49] <Troubled_Youth> Er...how do I put exit 0 on line 2?
[05:49] <QwertyMaster> hi
[05:49] <tritium> tuntun: no
[05:49] <cindy> user01: it is under heavy devolopment with a STABLE release out
[05:49] <Evanlec> gluttony, alright, so just mount it there then
[05:49] <johnn1> dialog me
[05:49] <tuntun> tritium: no what?
[05:49] <arul> hai
[05:49] <shane634> Gohan: did you control o to save then control x to exit?
[05:49] <tookie> how???  wew
[05:49] <tritium> tuntun: no to what you just said
[05:49] <cindy> user01: Can make up your mind for you
[05:49] <Bonster> everything is under development
[05:49] <johnn1> right click my nic
[05:49] <nickrud> Troubled_Youth: eh, sorry. sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/deskbar-applet.postinst , edit there :)
[05:49] <Troubled_Youth> :)
[05:49] <Gohan> shane, i control x to exit it asked if i wanted to save and i said yes to the same place
[05:49] <tuntun> tritium: You will need to elaborate.
[05:50] <Gohan> shane, then it just sat on the command line waiting
[05:50] <tritium> tuntun: packages are more than just files.  There are also scripts that are run post- and pre- installation and removal.
[05:50] <gluttony> Evanlec. i thank you good sir
[05:50] <shane634> Gohan: then use control alt backspace to restart x
[05:50] <Evanlec> gluttony, you're very welcome
[05:50] <cindy> would anyone be willing to help with my wifi issues?
[05:50] <tritium> tuntun: further, installating non-native ubuntu packages can result in system files belonging to packages getting overwritten, leaving your system broken
[05:50] <shane634> cindy: which card is it?
[05:50] <nickrud> If i understood wifi, I'd make a killing selling support
[05:51] <cindy> shane634: intel 4965agn
[05:51] <arul> hf
[05:51] <renato1> where do i get nicotine ? :/
[05:51] <shane634> cindy: let me see what i can find real quick
[05:51] <renato1> i can't get it trought synpatic
[05:51] <tookie> i give up !! tried dcc... what am i doing wrong...??
[05:51] <johnn1> hang on
[05:51] <tuntun> tritium: yes its no as 'clean',  but if ubuntu0777 isn't concerned about installing something "dumb"...
[05:51] <Bonster> renato1: smoke a cigg to get that
[05:52] <cindy> shane634: I should note that the driver seems to be working and that the system (;spci) reports the card is present
[05:52] <kuta> any one knows why I cannot play .rm file even I had already install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[05:52] <renato1> :/
[05:52] <tritium> tuntun: for the reasons above, it's best to recommend ubuntu packages, so new users don't end up with broken systems
[05:52] <shane634> cindy: that is cool what version of ubuntu?
[05:52] <cindy> nickrud: wifi approaches on linux change a LOT more than on windows
[05:52] <Bonster> kuta: u need gstreamer codec also
[05:53] <tritium> !info nicotine | renato1
[05:53] <ubotu> renato1: nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.8+dfsg-1 (gutsy), package size 609 kB, installed size 2924 kB
[05:53] <cindy> shane634: gutsy
[05:53] <johnny_01> one more time tookie... click this   irc://irc.icq.com:6667
[05:53] <shane634> cindy: ok hold on
[05:53] <cindy> ty
[05:53] <kuta> Bonster: I am using kaffeine and gxine, how to insto gstreamer codec?
[05:53] <nickrud> cindy: very true; I had to do a lot of finagling to get it to work with my offices non-standard network, now networkmanager works perfectly.
[05:53] <Malcovich> I need to call a command that requires sudo from a ir remote. I put an entry for myself in sudoers so I don't have to enter a password. Works fine if I login, but if I autologin (which I want to do. this is going to be a mythtv box), it doesn't work. What can I do?
[05:53] <renato1> i think my syncopate is all messed up
[05:53] <renato1> i can't update it
[05:54] <Atomic_UE> I seem to have a problem with NetworkManager not keeping up-to-date in terms of wifi info/availability. Often after NetworkManager has generated an initial list of WAPs it no longer keeps that list up-to-date or detects any changes in any wifi related stuff
[05:54] <mjkelly93> im trying to move the top of an application off the top of my screen to make room for it on the bottom half,  can someone give me a hand with this?
[05:54] <renato1> can't even find XMMS on syncopate
[05:54] <renato1> :/
[05:54] <Atomic_UE> As such this is also reflected in nm-applet
[05:54] <Bonster> kuta: oh gstreamer is got totem only
[05:54] <tritium> renato1: did you see the info above on nicotine?
[05:54] <tuntun> tritium: Well its just JRE, its not going to sink any deep roots into the system, as opposed to say VMware.
[05:54] <cindy> nickrud: the funny thing is itś almost always possible to make wifi work, but impossible to get developers on the same page
[05:55] <nickrud> mjkelly93: hold down the alt key along with the left mouse button to move the window
[05:55] <renato1> yeah tritium
[05:55] <johnny_01> what a dork
[05:55] <mjkelly93> nickrud i tried that but it wont let me move the top of the app off the desktop, like theres a wall at the top to prevent the title bar from going off the screen which would make sense
[05:55] <renato1> how do i update my syncopate?
[05:55] <nickrud> cindy: the joy of open source :O)
[05:55] <cindy> nickrud: Gotta love it
[05:56] <nickrud> mjkelly93: um, I don't have a top panel, that may be why it works for me
[05:56] <cindy> shane634: whatś the skinny?
[05:56] <shane634> cindy: http://welcometoubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/10/howto-get-airgo-based-wifi-enabled.html
[05:56] <tritium> mjkelly93: alt-click
[05:56] <shane634> cindy:  have a look there
[05:56] <mjkelly93> nickrud i dont have a top panel either,   ok let me try something else
[05:56] <tuntun> tritium: Well its just JRE, its not going to sink any deep roots into the system, as opposed to say VMware.
[05:56] <cindy> shane634: ty gimme a few please
[05:56] <tritium> tuntun: I saw your message previously
[05:57] <Troubled_Youth> nickrud: thanks it got rid of the error...should I try and reinstall it?
[05:57] <shane634> cindy: will do
[05:57] <tuntun> tritium: reply?
[05:57] <tritium> mjkelly93: if you alt-click, you can move it above the desktop
[05:57] <theBishop> has anyone been able to get Kino working
[05:57] <theBishop> ?
[05:57] <mjkelly93> nickrud ok i first have to get it against the top, then i can move it over,     thanks nick
[05:57] <theBishop> i can't capture video
[05:57] <nickrud> Troubled_Youth: you can try, now that you know how to fix it :)
[05:57] <tritium> tuntun: I've already explained why that's not the preferred approach.
[05:57] <Troubled_Youth> :)
[05:57] <mjkelly93> nickrud yeah i was trying but it was stopping me, but i got it now.   thanks again man
[05:57] <cindy> shane634: thatś verified to totally not work with gusty
[05:57] <cindy> gutsy
[05:57] <nickrud> mjkelly93: yw
[05:57] <shane634> cindy: poo
[05:57] <cindy> shane634: I know
[05:58] <kuta> I using gxine to player real media file and had an error cook.so anyone can help
[05:58] <tookie> must be in software ... advise on 1043 . 1048??
[05:58] <tuntun> tritium: Lets just call it the quick and dirty approach form ubuntu0777 then eh?
[05:58] <shane634> cindy: well all is not lost we have other sources
[05:58] <nickrud> tuntun: not to be a butt in (but I'm hopeless) quick and dirty usually fouls a system
[05:58] <Bonster> kuta: dont think xine has rm files support
[05:58] <Troubled_Youth> Yup. Worked like a charm :)
[05:58] <aubretigre> I'm thinking of buying a new laptop - if I get all intel will I be ok?
[05:58] <thinkl00p> whats a good bittorent client for ubuntu
[05:58] <Bonster> any
[05:58] <cindy> I know, Ie checked the wifi docs on ubuntu forums, as well as linuxforums, smallnetbuilder, and even intellinuxwireless
[05:58] <tritium> tuntun: installing the ubuntu package should be the quickest approach.
[05:59] <shane634> cindy: that link has files for gutsy
[05:59] <aubretigre> I don't want to have to depend on proprietary drivers
[05:59] <Bonster> thinkl00p: deluge
[05:59] <nickrud> thinkl00p: you will be fine, yes. Just avoid ati for a while
[05:59] <tookie> can u pick another place??
[05:59] <defrysk> thinkl00p, I like transmission , others like deluge
[05:59] <tritium> tookie: please, stay on topic
[05:59] <tuntun> tritium: I agree, but at least there's an option of last resort.
[05:59] <mjkelly93> nickrud it seems the only application i can move off the desktop from the top is firefox, i cant move the others,   can u move nautilus off the top?
[05:59] <tritium> tuntun: yes, you're right
[05:59] <Zippy2> compiz and emerald-themes work, not bad
[05:59] <thinkl00p> does deluge have a GUI?
[05:59] <cindy> shane634 that version of ndiswrapper only works with the 3965ag
[05:59] <defrysk> thinkl00p, they both do
[05:59] <chipbuddy> !glxinfo
[05:59] <tritium> aubretigre: intel wireless and graphics are well-supported
[06:00] <nickrud> mjkelly93: yes
[06:00] <Troubled_Youth> Hrmmm...any way to check to see if I have any other errors with my upgrade? o.O
[06:00] <Zippy2> black background in terminal looks too light though
[06:00] <mjkelly93> nickrud even when its maximized?
[06:00] <cindy> only a few people have my card listed as working, but I can quite seem to get it
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glxinfo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <tookie> i'm newbie, trying to see options, this place seems to be a default for forums,
[06:00] <shane634> cindy: ok check this link on page 2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=585311&highlight=intel+4965agn&page=2
[06:00] <nickrud> mjkelly93: no, maximized is fixed
[06:00] <Zippy2> i have intel gma x3100 aka 965gm
[06:00] <Zippy2> mobile
[06:00] <chipbuddy> when i run glxinfo | grep render it says "direct render: no"... but compiz runs and it looks like my ati drivers are all working correctly. umm... is direct render supposed to say yes?
[06:00] <aubretigre> I've had enough of broadcom
[06:00] <aubretigre> how does the x3100 compare to say the 950?
[06:00] <mjkelly93> nickrud thats why i cant move this app then it must be considered maximized, would u happen to know a way to override that?
[06:01] <Zippy2> i dont know. check intellinuxgraphics.org i think it is
[06:01] <nickrud> mjkelly93: unmaximize, and resize
[06:01] <aubretigre> ty zippy2
[06:01] <tritium> mjkelly93: I've also found that I have to disable compiz-fusion in order to get the alt-click trick to work
[06:01] <tuntun> tritium: Well I gave ubuntu0777 the wrong url anyway, hah!
[06:01] <nickrud> mjkelly93: right click the titlebar
[06:01] <tritium> tuntun: ;)
[06:01] <mjkelly93> nickrud the application cant be resized at all, its 1 fix size and that size for the skin i want to use is too big for my maximum resolution
[06:01] <tookie> admin's... every time i try to activsate and try to dcc my friend... it doesnt comply, .. do u know why??????
[06:02] <tritium> tuntun: I'd really like to know why he's having a problem, and fix that.  The package install should "just work"
[06:02] <mjkelly93> tritium compizfusion?
[06:02] <nickrud> mjkelly93: then the app is broken :)
[06:02] <cindy> shane634: yea, his issues appear to be intermittant
[06:02] <tritium> mjkelly93: yes.  Are you running gutsy?
[06:02] <Zippy2> compiz isnt that amazing though
[06:02] <anise> ppph
[06:02] <mjkelly93> nickrud well it cant really be scaled because of the nature of the application, mixxx
[06:02] <chipbuddy> !compiz
[06:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[06:02] <mjkelly93> tritium yes
[06:02] <anise> oooh
[06:02] <anise> exx
[06:02] <anise> hii
[06:02] <tookie> johnny
[06:02] <tritium> mjkelly93: if you're having trouble, you might try disabling the desktop effects to see if that helps
[06:03] <shane634> cindy: this is all the threads have a look http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=29834914
[06:03] <nickrud> mjkelly93: I'd call that a broken design decision then (with exceptions possible)
[06:03] <tookie> johnny......
[06:03] <mjkelly93> nickrud if it was able to be scaled then the button sized would possibly overlap each other and stuff
[06:03] <thinkl00p> anything for ubuntu to burn movies .avi's or .mpg's onto DVD's to play on a DVD player?
[06:03] <aubretigre> ahh , it appears x3100 is just a subset of 965
[06:03] <mjkelly93> nickrud well possibly but its an aftermarket user made skin, not by the makers
[06:03] <tuntun> tritium: me too
[06:03] <mjkelly93> nickrud its just unfortunate that its too big for my res
[06:03] <Gohan> shane, DUDE this is upsetting. ok so i change the file to read NV instead of vesa, then i hit ctrl+alt+backspace... nothing
[06:03] <Romina> hi
[06:03] <tritium> tuntun: thanks for helping him
[06:03] <nickrud> mjkelly93: yup
[06:03] <mjkelly93> tritium is that under preferences > applications?
[06:03] <Atomic_UE> tookie, if you're using xchat try asking in the #xchat channel
[06:04] <tookie> k
[06:04] <johnn1> hey tookie
[06:04] <tritium> mjkelly93: System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[06:04] <mjkelly93> tritium errrr appearance
[06:04] <tuntun> tritium: haha, who knows.
[06:04] <Romina> where are my local mails saved?   I just wanted to set evolution up to receive LOCAL mails  (Local Delivery)   but I have to define a MAIL - PATH
[06:04] <shane634> cindy: and these are gutsy only i think http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=29835420
[06:04] <johnn1> I am in alot of other rooms
[06:04] <anise> hey to all
[06:04] <nickrud> Romina: /var/spool/mail
[06:04] <Atomic_UE> tookie, or #xchat-gnome depending on which one you're using :)
[06:04] <Gohan> shane, DUDE this is upsetting. ok so i change the file to read NV instead of vesa, then i hit ctrl+alt+backspace... nothing
[06:05] <Romina> the mail path for local delivery in evolution was   /var/mail/romina   for the user "romina" in times of Feisty Fawn   but  now,   in Gutsy Gibbon,   /var/mail/romina  does not exist any more
[06:05] <Atomic_UE> anise, hey to you
[06:05] <Romina> nickrud, and where is MY own directory?
[06:05] <Romina> nickrud, my own MAIL directory
[06:05] <Romina> my username is romina
[06:05] <mjkelly93> tritium good call man that fixed it, something in there must prevent max'd windows to go off the screen for some reason
[06:05] <johnn1> tookie
[06:05] <tritium> mjkelly93: :)
[06:05] <nickrud> Romina: you would have an mbox file in the /var/spool/mail directory