[08:20] <ernz> Hi everyone, is there any way of recovering data from a drive where the partition allocations have been wiped?
[08:20] <richiefrich> watson540 u are fighting a losing battle
[08:20] <cpk2> watson540: you could try xmms, its a winamp clone
[08:20] <darekdmp> a jakies polaki tu som?
[08:20] <noiesmo> verbose, as i said yesterday aptitude broke it it had removed firestarter when i reinstalled it everything worked again. but I was able to smb to another box to get firestarter deb to affected system
[08:20] <cpk2> watson540: mplayer?
[08:20] <genceleci> bahadirt turkce biliyor musun?
[08:21] <Cooner750> ubuntuguide.org recommends to use this sources.list for extra repositories: http://pastebin.ca/92106 , which one of those contains the sun-java5-bin package?
[08:21] <cpk2> watson540: mplayer is really good for video
[08:21] <watson540> i didnt say i need a vdeo player i just said i want totem to not complain about missing codecs
[08:21] <richiefrich> watson540   i really suggest   vlc, mplayer, xine
[08:21] <linux_user400354> watson540, install totem-xine
[08:21] <vinboy> how do I search for a package using command line?
[08:21] <richiefrich> apt-get search
[08:21] <CarNagE__> apt-cache search
[08:22] <genceleci> bahadirt do you know turkish?
[08:22] <linux_user400354> !restrictedformats
[08:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:22] <cpk2> Cooner750: I think universe has the sun java
[08:22] <linux_user400354> !restrictedformats > watson540
[08:22] <watson540> richiefrich: i have all of those, its not a mater of my preference,m i just want to see the dang thing work
[08:22] <ernz> Enniebuddee?
[08:22] <watson540> geez
[08:22] <watson540> at least read your backlog before having the bot send me a msg.
[08:22] <richiefrich> watson540 i guess u arnt understanding... it wont.. but good luck.. helix is the same way
[08:23] <lmosher> I"m having trouble getting the firefox flash plugin to work. I installed libflash-mozplugin. i'm using homestarrunner.com as an example and it crashes every time I click 'skip intro'
[08:23] <watson540> well why would the default player in ubuntu not be able to work?
[08:23] <wf> euhm, there's no commando unmount?
[08:23] <cpk2> watson540: use apt-get to install the sun java
[08:23] <linux_user400354> watson540, you may need w32codec, you definitely need totem-xine
[08:23] <vinboy> thanks
[08:23] <watson540> cpk2: huh who said anything about java? i have that
[08:23] <Flannel> wf: umount
[08:23] <linux_user400354> wf umount
[08:23] <wf> a
[08:23] <cpk2> oops wrong person
[08:23] <richiefrich>   crap hmm cause they have that  restricted formats
[08:24] <ernz> Whats the issue Watson540?
[08:24] <cpk2> that was @ cooner
[08:24] <wf> pure logic... :D
[08:24] <farous> !cli > wf
[08:24] <richiefrich> watson540  hmm cause they have that  restricted formats crap
[08:24] <watson540> nothing i came in and did my thing i only asked a question when i was asked something its alright..really
[08:24] <ernz> Oh, OK.
[08:25] <ernz> Anyone able to assist a semi-noob with a couple of issues?
[08:25] <richiefrich> ??
[08:25] <noiesmo> !anyone
[08:25] <deFrysk> anyone?
[08:25] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:25] <wf> farous: !cli > wf       :S       me muchos unix-noob
[08:25] <richiefrich> whats the issue ??>?
[08:25] <ernz> Righto, here it goes.
[08:26] <bahadirt> genceleci : of course, I am Turkish :)
[08:26] <farous> wf you should get a message from ubotu on command line interface cli
[08:26] <richiefrich> u need to ask to get answers
[08:26] <wf> ah okay, LOL, that's correct...
[08:26] <bahadirt> linux_user : I plugged in the pci eth card
[08:26] <wf> big-time irc-noob to.
[08:26] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, did you reboot?
[08:26] <bahadirt> yep
[08:26] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, do you have x installed?
[08:27] <bahadirt> that's the problem mate! I am not sure
[08:27] <bahadirt> I wonder if it comes with the downloaded iso
[08:27] <bahadirt> 6.06 server
[08:27] <wf> Long time ago I used to be on IRC, with mIRC,tribe7 or something like that. But 've bene off for a long time...
[08:27] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, no, it does not
[08:27] <bahadirt> what shld I do now?
[08:27] <bahadirt> to run x
[08:27] <ernz> My dad currently runs Windows. He has 2 physical HD's, an 80GB and a 120GB. Windows is on hda, hdb has backed up files on it. I booted using a genuine Ubuntu Dapper Drake 6.06 LTS disk, and tried to install as Dual Boot.
[08:28] <richiefrich> ernz ok go on
[08:28] <farous> bahadirt: try ifconfig will tell you what is the symbolic name of your card
[08:28] <noiesmo> ernz, yes go on
[08:28] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, if you have it, it will come up with the command "startx"
[08:28] <fuffalo-> what is the default password for root on an ubuntu install
[08:28] <linux_user400354> bahadirt or "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[08:28] <torpedo|dog> fuffalo-: Root is locked.
[08:28] <DShepherd> fuffalo-: there is noe
[08:28] <richiefrich> ernz it wont bootl windows ? right
[08:28] <Flannel> fuffalo-: ubuntu doesn't have a root account by default
[08:28] <wf> fuffalo: use "sudo su -"
[08:28] <DShepherd> none*
[08:28] <Flannel> wf: no.  He has no need to be root.
[08:28] <torpedo|dog> fuffalo-: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:28] <bahadirt> ok trying mate
[08:29] <wf> Hm okay. :P
[08:29] <linux_user400354> to use root "sudo -i"
[08:29] <richiefrich> or
[08:29] <richiefrich> sude -Hs
[08:29] <ernz> hdb has 80+GB free, so I just partitioned manually, and used the remaining free space to create a swap (700MB) and a ext "/" partition of the remaining space. All seemed OK, we his apply and it came to an error message part way through and said creation failed.
[08:29] <Flannel> or, just use sudo for each command, which is probably what you want anyway
[08:29] <richiefrich> naw i have a root term open all the time
[08:29] <andy-> Frostwire crashed, @#!$
[08:30] <rayston> hello all
[08:30] <ernz> Now the drive has 3 paritions on it, all apparently "Unformatted" and I can't mount any of them using the Live disk to retreive the info.
[08:30] <rayston> is there a way to have synaptic start installing stuff to a different hard drive?
[08:30] <wf> So 1057 Cylinders, 16 Heads, 63 Sectors - 545.5 MB       Any specific filesytem perfect for this type of device?       Ext2, Ext3 or Reiser... ?
[08:30] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, are you asking me how to install x?
[08:31] <ernz> Was that question to me WF?
[08:31] <ernz> richiefrich: sorry, yes it does still boot windows from the C:\ (hda) drive
[08:31] <wf> anyone thinking (s)he has something to add.
[08:32] <richiefrich> ernz so u mean  that the liveCD/installer failed?
[08:32] <Beawolfe> Need some help mounting win xp and spare HD in Ubuntu .....can antone help?
[08:32] <wf> ernz: Oh, srry no, it's not about your hd, but about mine.
[08:32] <bahadirt> linux_user : no, I just ask whether I shld install xubuntu or kubuntu ?
[08:32] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, try disabling the network adapter on your mobo in the bios settings, and use software called ethtool to figure out which device the pci card is.
[08:33] <bahadirt> yeah That wld be a good idea sir.
[08:33] <ernz> richiefrich: The partitioning section of the install failed in the LiveCD mode, and aborted the partition prematurely.
[08:33] <Generic> can anyone recommend a music player that's not Amarok, Banshee, or Xmms?
[08:33] <Flannel> !tell Generic about players
[08:33] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, i would install neither. i would get ubuntu with gnome, but if i had to choose from one of those 2, i would get kubuntu
[08:34] <ernz> wf: No problem. (I was wondering where you got the Cylinders and Heads there!!) :)
[08:34] <Generic> thanks
[08:34] <Generic> Amarok isn't functional and nobody knows why and xmms crashes/freezes on me
[08:34] <harris> does anyone know how to edit the grub menu when you boot your computer?
[08:34] <harris> I know it's the boot.ini file in windows
[08:34] <harris> but i don't know what the file is in linux
[08:34] <Imme-emosol> ernz: I don't think you should make 3 partitions on a 545 MB hd... ;)
[08:35] <linux_user400354> bahadirt xubuntu runs on slower computers and uses less resources, but its software is crappy compared to kde software
[08:35] <garryF> sudo gedit /etc/boot/grub/grub.lst in a terminal
[08:35] <farous> harris: /boot/grub/menu.list
[08:35] <noiesmo> harris, /boot/grub/menu.1st
[08:35] <harris> thank you all
[08:35] <Flannel> garryF: gksudo gedit
[08:35] <deFrysk> linux_user400354, excuse me ?
[08:35] <ernz> Imme-emosol: Especially when on of the partitions should be 2GB! :D
[08:35] <garryF> Flannel Either works, but for curiosity I'm going to try gksudo ....
[08:36] <ic56> ernz: when you boot from the Ubuntu liveCD, what does fdisk report about your partitions?  More importantly, did you undertake resizing?  If so, what type of filesystem was the original hdb?  NTFS or FAT?
[08:36] <Flannel> garryF: gksudo is for graphical apps, NO difference experience wise, just won't corrupt stuff.
[08:36] <linux_user400354> deFrysk, i would rather have kde then xfce any day unless i really have an old junker or am running a server with a big load, but in that case i would use ubuntu without x installed
[08:36] <Imme-emosol> Any advice on filesystem? Stability would be nice.  I have a question..do i need to install X Windows System and Gnome Desktop Environment or just the X Windows System to run vmware guest OS are windows xp and 2003?
[08:37] <jerinx> Hi,blh knlan ga?
[08:37] <linux_user400354> rather than*
[08:37] <ernz> ...I feel a plumbers estimate noise coming on here....
[08:37] <ic56> ernz: did the resizing complete successfully?
[08:37] <deFrysk> linux_user400354, so dont tell people whats crappy and whats not
[08:37] <garryF> Flannel Oh nice. thanks!
[08:38] <linux_user400354> deFrysk, right. cant get everyone to agree on lots of things. everyone has his or her own opinions on whats better.
[08:38] <ernz> Not a clue ic56, the process ended with a useless error message and then went back 2 steps in the process without asking me
[08:38] <Shak-> the files/folders on one of my mounted partitions are user root and group plugdev, im trying to change the owner but I get a "operation not permitted" error, even as root?
[08:38] <garryF> Whatever works, is what I say.
[08:38] <deFrysk> linux_user400354, pread your opinions in #ubuntu-ot
[08:38] <Bonez> kekek
[08:38] <bahadirt> linux_user : then where can I download xserver ? only from the system connecting the internet ?
[08:39] <linux_user400354> deFrysk freedom is speech is everywhere i go, not just #ubuntu-ot
[08:39] <linux_user400354> freedom of speech*
[08:39] <garryF> !info xserver
[08:39] <ubotu> Package xserver does not exist in dapper
[08:39] <ic56> ernz: the resizing process ended with an error message or the partitioning?  Or did the app you were using have you supply both simultaneously, leaving you unsure as to which parts got completed and which didn't?
[08:39] <Imme-emosol> If my firefox would not hang up every time I would search for filesystem, but since it does I'm asking all of you.
[08:39] <Flannel> !info xserver-xorg
[08:39] <garryF> Hmm, can never remember if it's /mesg, or /mesg ubotu.
[08:39] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In repository main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 344 kB
[08:39] <farous> garryF: you mean xserver-xorg ?
[08:40] <garryF> farous Yep.
[08:40] <linux_user400354> bahadirt are you there anymore?
[08:40] <ernz> I would have to opt for the "Unsure" option there buddy. Yep, door #3
[08:40] <Shak-> anyone got any idea why I cant change ownership of this mounted partition even as root?
[08:40] <harris> how do I  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[08:40] <garryF> Linux and Smirnoff don't like eachother.
[08:40] <linux_user400354> harris vim
[08:40] <Bonez> harris: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[08:41] <Imme-emosol> Shak- could it be 'cause it's mounted?
[08:41] <bahadirt> I am here
[08:41] <Imme-emosol> Shak- or am I babling then?
[08:41] <bahadirt> I disabled the on board lan
[08:41] <garryF> While its mounted, you cannot change ownership.
[08:41] <deFrysk> harris use gedit if you are not familiar with vim
[08:41] <bahadirt> pci lan seems okay but fails to ping
[08:42] <bahadirt> damnnnn
[08:42] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, okay how? fails to ping what?
[08:42] <garryF> !networking
[08:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about networking - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:42] <garryF> huh? Silly all knowing bot.
[08:42] <ic56> ernz: ok. I've never done resizing, but I'll hazard a guess that the resizing was successful but the partition conked out.  Boot from the liveCD, get yourself a command line, then use "sudo fdisk /dev/hdb" to see the partition table on that disk.  the NTFS partition should have code 7.  If it doesn't, change it to 7, and see if the filesystem is clean
[08:43] <garryF> Is it wireless?
[08:43] <orbin> are there security.ubuntu.com mirrors?
[08:43] <bahadirt> !help xserver
[08:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about help xserver - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:43] <Imme-emosol> linux_user400354 what would you rather have(:D) as a filesystem, ext2, ext3 or reiser ?
[08:43] <Flannel> !xorg
[08:43] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:43] <bahadirt> !info xserver
[08:43] <ubotu> Package xserver does not exist in dapper
[08:43] <linux_user400354> does ubuntu have documentation on lvm or more specifically how to resize logical volumes?
[08:43] <Flannel> xserver-xorg is the package name
[08:44] <bahadirt> linux_user : I try "ping google.com" but fails
[08:44] <harris> deFrysk it want let me delete partions from the menu list using gedit do you have any suggestion?
[08:44] <bahadirt> pci card seems working now but..
[08:44] <ic56> ernz: if the filesystem isn't corrupt, then you're good to go -- just change the codes of the other two partitions and restart teh install.  If teh NTFS partition is corrupt, then resizing failed and you're SOL.  If you need that data, you're looking at going sector by sector, in a scrambled disk, trying to re-assemble your files
[08:44] <deFrysk> harris, delete partitions ?
[08:44] <deFrysk> harris, what are you doing ?
[08:44] <harris> partition names off of the grub menu
[08:45] <harris> edit the grub menu./
[08:45] <ic56> ernz: there is one last possibility.
[08:45] <harris> trying to remove entrys from the boot up menu.
[08:45] <deFrysk> harris use sudo gedit /path/to/texfile
[08:45] <harris> by editing the grub/menu.list file
[08:45] <farous> harris you need root priv
[08:45] <linux_user400354> lmme-emosol, i would rather have ext3 than ext2 because ext3 is ext2 + journaling. ive tried reiserfs. i know an engineer who believes reiserfs is the best thing that ever happened. i would personally rather use zfs.
[08:45] <ernz> I'm listening ic56...
[08:45] <deFrysk> harris, got that ?
[08:45] <harris> farous how do I get root priv?
[08:45] <Flannel> deFrysk: gksudo gedit
[08:46] <harris> what's the command?
[08:46] <deFrysk> Flannel, also fine but not needed
[08:46] <farous> harris: as Flannel said
[08:46] <garryF> You can remove kernel entries by uninstalling the kernel images and just leaving the ones you want to keep. as for other os's, just put a # before the lines.
[08:46] <deFrysk> harris, use sudo or gksudo
[08:46] <ic56> ernz: like I said, I don't know how these repartitioning tools work but, assuming it saved teh new partition table before resizing (which would make no sense but perhaps you encountered a bug) then it's possible that
[08:46] <harris> k trying now.
[08:46] <Flannel> harris: use gksudo for graphical apps, sudo can mess things up
[08:46] <garryF> Like for me, I uninstalled the 386 kernel images because I have a 686
[08:47] <Imme-emosol> linux_user400354 what is that journaling about then? :S Srry to bother with such stupid questions, but FF won't work nice...
[08:47] <linux_user400354> bahadirt does ifconfig tell you you have an ip address?
[08:47] <linux_user400354> what is FF?
[08:47] <Imme-emosol> FireFox
[08:47] <Beawolfe> can anyone tell me the command process to permantly mount all partitions at startup?
[08:48] <Flannel> Imme-emosol: journaling means it does everything atomically, not that it keeps a log of what it's written or anything.  atomically - if you lose power halfway through a write, on the next bootup your files get reverted, instead of left halfway
[08:48] <garryF> Journeling is a way of keeping track of changes in the filesystem so that if there is a crash, recovery is easier.
[08:48] <linux_user400354> lmme-emosol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system
[08:48] <ic56> ernz: the partition has *not* been resized.  In that case, to recover, you'd change the partition table to reflect a reality of a single NTFS partition (type 7 -- but you can display all the codes from the fdisk menu) spanning the whole disk.  Try that before going in with that sector editor, maybe you'll get luck and all will be miraculously restored!
[08:48] <jerinx> hi,blh knlan ga?
[08:49] <orbin> Beawolfe: you need to create fstab entries for each one
[08:49] <ic56> ernz: and before you change anything, remember to record the existing partition table so you can go back to it if you screw up!
[08:49] <orbin> Beawolfe: what filesystem are they formmated in?
[08:49] <Imme-emosol> That sounds nice.   Yeah, firefox won't open more then one page or not at all... so.   I'm taking your word for it though some may not agree. ;)
[08:49] <bahadirt> checking ifconfig
[08:49] <ic56> ernz: questions?
[08:50] <linux_user400354> lmme-emosol, i dont think the problem has to do with your file system
[08:50] <Beawolfe> I have Win XP dive with 3 partitions of NTFS and a Data drive that is Fat32
[08:50] <bahadirt> linux_user : ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:50] <harris> Flannel thanks a lot, i was able to edit it
[08:50] <ernz> ic56 - Excellent help. I will try it all later today when I go to fix it.  The tech of web pages, started out assuming one page output.
[08:51] <Beawolfe> I really only need to mount the Data drive permantly so I can transfer between Ubuntu and Win XP
[08:51] <ShaunES> Question: I'm booting a livecd and managed to get to another console.
[08:51] <orbin> Beawolfe: see that page
[08:51] <bahadirt> linux_user : when I type ifconfig
[08:51] <ShaunES> alt-f1 doesn't get me to the main one anymore.
[08:51] <Imme-emosol> linux_user > no, there's no real problem anymore... I think it's something about the livecd or so. But that doesn't matter.
[08:51] <bahadirt> inet addr : <IP_ADDRESS>  mask : <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:51] <bahadirt> no any other ips
[08:52] <garryF> If that data drive is ntfs, it won't be safe to write to it. You will need to use fat32
[08:52] <cpk2> ShaunES: try alt f7
[08:52] <KenSentMe> ShaunES: and ctrl+alt+f7?
[08:52] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, can you paste all of the output in pastebin?
[08:52] <ic56> ernz: fdisk (lower case) is used to manipulate partition tables.  At this stage, that's all you want to do.  cfdisk is a variant of fdisk that is useful for saving/restoring partition information in bulk (rather than with pen and paper :-) ).  Read the manpages for both tools if you've never used them
[08:52] <ShaunES> Not responding.
[08:52] <linux_user400354> !pastebin
[08:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:52] <garryF> I transfer data via usb memory sticks
[08:52] <ShaunES> It's sitting here spitting out what I can assume is errors.
[08:52] <bahadirt> pastebin ?
[08:52] <linux_user400354> !pastebin > bahadirt
[08:52] <ShaunES> "ide-pmac lost interrupt, dma status: 8080"
[08:52] <Imme-emosol> ShaunES > System - Preferences - Keyboard Shortcuts
[08:52] <ernz> I used fdisk under winOS
[08:53] <bahadirt> !pastebin
[08:53] <ShaunES> Imme-emosol, it's still booting, as far as I know. It never got to a gui.
[08:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:53] <ic56> What is winOS?  Is that a Linux distro?
[08:53] <ic56> ernz: What is winOS?  Is that a Linux distro?
[08:53] <Imme-emosol> ShaunEs ah okay. lol
[08:53] <Imme-emosol> anyone familliar with ReactOS by the way?
[08:54] <ShaunES> "mpic_enable_irc timeout" what's broken?
[08:54] <bahadirt> linux_user : I am pasting it to your private if you dont mind.. only a few lines
[08:54] <garryF> In a pinch, I bet pastebin can be used to xfer text data accross os's., just have to write the url down carefully
[08:54] <ernz> lol - No ec56 - Windows Operating System WinOS AKA Winblows AKA Thorn in my bleeding side!!!!!
[08:54] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, okay thats fine
[08:54] <garryF> I wonder if its ok to use pastebin that way though.
[08:54] <rixth> Where can I get more visualizations for Totem? The ONLY included one "What a GOOM" sucks.
[08:55] <Imme-emosol> ShaunES Ctrl + Alt + F1 neither?
[08:55] <ShaunES> Nada.
[08:55] <Beawolfe> orbin ...........THANX a Million!!!!!! that worked
[08:55] <orbin> Beawolfe: yw
[08:55] <ShaunES> I'm in what I can only assume is the log console.
[08:55] <ShaunES> Since every now and then I get
[08:55] <ShaunES> "ide-pmac lost interrupt, dma status: 8080"
[08:55] <ShaunES> "mpic_enable_irc timeout" what's broken?
[08:56] <ic56> ernz: ah, I've never before seen it called that.  I've seen it abbreviated MS-Win or MS-Windows but never with the words "Operating System".
[08:56] <bahadirt> linux_user : pasted to prvmsg
[08:56] <ernz> LMAO - That's for a very good reason ic56
[08:56] <Shak-> Imme-emosol: what do you mean, its mounted because its just a partition on the drive
[08:57] <rixth> ernz, lose the aolbonics please
[08:57] <Shak-> and for some reason I cant change ownership even while root
[08:57] <garryF> I called it Migraine soft windows
[08:57] <Shak-> is there any reason for that?
[08:57] <cpk2> ShaunES: ctrl C might stop it from spitting out errors and give you a terminal to do something
[08:57] <ShaunES> Nope.
[08:57] <linux_user400354> bajadort, i didnt get anything
[08:58] <ernz> rixth: In English?
[08:58] <ic56> ernz: fdisk under linux is somewhat different from windows.  For one thing, it's command line driven rather than menu driven.  when you start it, it will say "m for help".  Press m to see a list of commands
[08:58] <Imme-emosol> Shak- is the pratition mounted?
[08:58] <bahadirt> when I do "lspci" : vga comp controller : ATI Tech.: unknown device
[08:58] <Shak-> Imme-emosol: yep
[08:58] <rixth> ernz, 'lol', 'lmao' et. al
[08:58] <rayston> is there a way to have synaptic start installing stuff to a different hard drive?
[08:58] <solid_liq> bahadirt: you don't have the ati driver for your video card
[08:58] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, that would be your video card
[08:58] <orbin> bahadirt: run update-pciids
[08:58] <solid_liq> bahadirt: try fglrx
[08:58] <Imme-emosol> Shak- can you u(n)mount?
[08:58] <garryF> cfdisk is a bit easier to use, but tends to round sizes to the nearest cylinder boundry.
[08:58] <Shak-> Imme-emosol: uh, havent tried that
[08:59] <user-land> Hello, how can i change a partition label with fdisk ?
[08:59] <bahadirt> permission denied / download failed
[08:59] <ic56> ernz: l = list known partition types will display a table of partition codes you can use.  Use t (change partition's system id) to change a partition's code.
[08:59] <skavenge> woo
[08:59] <linux_user400354> user-land "man fdisk"
[08:59] <user-land> partition labels are not mentioned in man fdisk ...
[08:59] <solid_liq> user-land: just use fdisk
[09:00] <bahadirt> linux_user : I paste to your prvmsgbox but seems you cannot read
[09:00] <solid_liq> user-land: oops, I didn't read fully :D
[09:00] <Imme-emosol> If I do "man fdisk", to quit man is Ctrl + Z ?
[09:00] <ic56> ernz: use p to see the list of partitions.  "q" will quit without saving your changes
[09:00] <ic56>  "w" will write the modified partition table and exit. Read up for more.  Good luck!
[09:00] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, have you logged into freenode with a password?
[09:00] <orbin> bahadirt: sudo update-pciids
[09:00] <ic56> ernz: "w" will write the modified partition table and exit. Read up for more.  Good luck!
[09:01] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: no, ctrl-z puts it in the background, use q to quit
[09:01] <linux_user400354> lmme-emosol , no just type q
[09:01] <ernz> ic56 - I see it now, that seems straight forward enough :S - Thanks for your help on that one.
[09:01] <Imme-emosol> ah, JUST q. :P
[09:01] <ic56> ernz: yw!
[09:01] <ernz> Rixth: What's a'do with LMAO, I mean FFS it's not like tonnes of peeps don't use it - LOL!
[09:01] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: if you've done ctrl-z, type fg to bring it back into the foreground, then quit it with q
[09:02] <Imme-emosol> solid_liq gracias
[09:02] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: np
[09:02] <linux_user400354> solid_liq or he can do a "killall less"
[09:03] <solid_liq> linux_user400354: yeah, but that's somewhat less elegant
[09:03] <bahadirt> linux_user : maybe I cannot reach internet bcos of being behind a gateway/isa server/firewall etc.
[09:03] <bahadirt> ?
[09:03] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, try pinging another computer on your lan
[09:03] <Imme-emosol> lol
[09:03] <bahadirt> ok
[09:03] <solid_liq> linux_user400354: plus it teaches him how to bring a background process back into the foreground and how to use that with ctrl-z
[09:03] <ShaunES> Why is 6.06 freezing when it loads the GUI?
[09:03] <linux_user400354> bahadirt try pinging your router if you have one or a modem
[09:04] <bahadirt> linux_user : I can ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:04] <bahadirt> another client of our network
[09:04] <ernz> rixth: What's the uber leet penguin friendly mega free alternatives I should be using now? :\
[09:04] <user-land> solid_liq, can i change the label of a partition without reformatting it ?
[09:04] <Imme-emosol> solid_liq > yeah, but I think that if I will use unix-system more often I will just switch to another tty to work with...
[09:05] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, reset your router by putting a needle in the small hole and hold it there for 15 seconds
[09:05] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: which reminds me, most programs can be put into the background so you can do something with the shell by pressing ctrl-z, then brought back up by typing fg
[09:05] <solid_liq> user-land: yeah, but you don't use fdisk for that
[09:05] <user-land> how could i do that, solid_liq ?
[09:05] <solid_liq> user-land: are you using ext3?
[09:05] <user-land> yes.
[09:06] <garryF> I believe that gparted allows renaming of partion labels.
[09:06] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: you never know when it'll come in handy
[09:06] <garryF> !info gparted
[09:06] <ubotu> gparted: partition editor for GNOME. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 232 kB, installed size 1280 kB
[09:06] <Imme-emosol> why is my "free space not available"?
[09:06] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: like when you just want to do something in the directory you ran the program in, and it's a deeply nested directory
[09:06] <romulo> hi, is edgy still broken?
[09:06] <linux_user400354> lmme-emosol, you are out of disk space?
[09:06] <solid_liq> user-land: are you using ext3 or what filesystem?
[09:07] <user-land> ext3, yes, solid_liq.
[09:07] <ShaunES> Oh this is getting retarded. How on earth am I meant to do this when it's freezing when the gui launches.
[09:07] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: did you use df to check it?
[09:07] <solid_liq> user-land: then use e2label
[09:07] <Imme-emosol> solid_liq: true, I'm eager to learn more about the unix-sys, since I'm most probably gone do my utmost best to give up on windows. :D With all their genuine advantage tools... :p
[09:07] <hd420> where does the twiki dpkg install the LocalLib.cfg?
[09:07] <Imme-emosol> solid_liq: df ?
[09:08] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: :D  I gave up windows over 4 years ago
[09:08] <bahadirt> linux_user : can I download xserver seperately and install from cd instead of downloading ?
[09:08] <garryF> Edit the /etc/inittab change the default runlevel from 5 to 3 and it will default to a console login, then you can use some text editor to change things.
[09:08] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: df stands for disk free, use df -h to show disk space in human readable format
[09:08] <Imme-emosol> linux_user: I'm not out of disk-space, still on livecd, just formatted the hd.
[09:08] <user-land> solid_liq: e2label: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hdd
[09:08] <user-land> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[09:08] <Bergcube> romulo~  AFAIK edgy is in early stages f development.  As such is is subject to change without notice, and it's in it's nature not to work as a complete or finished system.  Saying "not finished" is the same as "broken" sounds as lack of insight to me.
[09:08] <garryF> will need to do sudo before editing
[09:09] <solid_liq> user-land: you need to specify the partition, like /dev/hdd4
[09:09] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, yes, you would have to download the alternate cd for the ubuntu desktop install(not server install) and then use it as a repository by adding it to your /etc/apt/sources.list and running the command "sudo apt-get update"
[09:09] <solid_liq> user-land: type mount by itself to see where your partitions are mounted
[09:09] <Imme-emosol> solid_liq doesn't show up, probably 'cause I unmounted the HD, since I formatted it...
[09:09] <Imme-emosol> I now have Partition 1 and Free Space.
[09:10] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: do you know what partition you formatted?  and why are you doing it manually?  I'm curious
[09:10] <Imme-emosol> And I would be happy if I can habe all the free-space 'cause I can use all I have... :S
[09:11] <Imme-emosol> solid_liq I formatted Ext3
[09:11] <Imme-emosol> Did it with disk manager... Not completely manual... :p
[09:11] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: have you used fdisk to check?
[09:11] <garryF> Imme-emosol: the default partitioning, does that with  a little set aside for swap.
[09:11] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: try fdisk or cfdisk
[09:11] <bahadirt> ilnux_user : but I have the server install. I dont have the desktop install
[09:11] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: cfdisk is a little more friendly
[09:11] <user-land> thanks a lot, solid_liq :-)
[09:11] <bahadirt> do I have to install alternate cd on top of this server install ?
[09:11] <solid_liq> user-land: np
[09:12] <bahadirt> linux for human beings indeed :):)
[09:12] <solid_liq> bahadirt: huh?
[09:12] <solid_liq> bahadirt: what are you trying to do?
[09:12] <garryF> Server install is for those use to the command line interface and the commands.
[09:12] <bahadirt> solid : I just want to run the xserver
[09:12] <solid_liq> bahadirt: kde or gnome?
[09:12] <prophet> RAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWw
[09:12] <bahadirt> but we found out that it is not included to the 6.06 package
[09:12] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, no, you dont install the alternate cd on top of the server install. the server install does not come with x, so you will have to get the alternate install and just use a few packages in it to install x, not the entire cd.
[09:12] <bahadirt> doesnt matter
[09:13] <Chousuke> bahadirt: it is included.
[09:13] <bahadirt> any gui will do fine
[09:13] <prophet> i just took a nap from 7pm to 12AM
[09:13] <Imme-emosol> solid_liq cfdisk just gives me partition 1
[09:13] <garryF> YOu will need to install a gui if you haven't already. try startx
[09:13] <solid_liq> bahadirt: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:13] <bahadirt> chousuke : some 5 guys here told me not included
[09:13] <solid_liq> bahadirt: that's all you have to do
[09:13] <Chousuke> bahadirt: why did you even install the server install in the first place then?
[09:13] <bahadirt> and another 5 told me included
[09:13] <garryF> waht solid_liq said ^
[09:13] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, x comes with the ubuntu desktop install, not the server install
[09:13] <solid_liq> bahadirt: and you apparently d/l'd the server iso instead of the desktop one
[09:13] <bahadirt> yes that's true
[09:14] <bahadirt> slhd I download and install desktop install ? or alternate install =
[09:14] <Chousuke> but don't they contain the same packages?
[09:14] <bahadirt> ?
[09:14] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: that's what I was guessing it would do from what you said.  Add another partition
[09:14] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, those commands he gave you wont work if your internet is not working. therefore you have to do what i said to get those commands to work
[09:14] <garryF> would do apt-get unbuntu-desktop
[09:14] <Chousuke> bahadirt: no, you just need to do sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[09:14] <solid_liq> bahadirt: I have one of my machines running from a 6.06 install cd, and it installed the desktop
[09:14] <Chousuke> and wait for a while.
[09:14] <garryF> er apt-get install ubuntu-desktop if youw ant gnome.
[09:14] <Imme-emosol> solid_liq I'm doing it sort of manual 'cause I want to install ubuntu under ubuntu liveCD... :p
[09:15] <solid_liq> bahadirt: just     apt-get install kubuntu
[09:15] <bahadirt> could not fnd the paclage ubuntu-desktop :(
[09:15] <PORDO> does anyone know how i can put uris in proper order on my system, so i can ping com.google.www instead of www.google.com (which is backward)
[09:15] <solid_liq> bahadirt: it'll give you the same.    use kubuntu-desktop
[09:15] <garryF>  then try what solid_liq said to do.
[09:15] <bahadirt> E: Couldnt find package kubuntu
[09:15] <bahadirt> that's his reply :)
[09:15] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, you are not going to find those packages untill you add the ubuntu desktop alterante cd as a repository in /etc/atp/sources.list or get your internet working
[09:15] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: ah, ok
[09:15] <garryF> !info ubuntu-desktop
[09:15] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.119 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 40 kB
[09:16] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: have you ever done a manual linux install before?
[09:16] <ShaunES> Question: How do I get a verbose or step by step setup for a livecd?
[09:16] <lmosher> Some directions I'm following told me to install "dpkg-dev" so that my "archive program" can open .deb files
[09:16] <solid_liq> linux_user400354: ah, good point! :D
[09:16] <lmosher> Which "archive program" should I use?
[09:16] <bahadirt> linux_user : just for the sake of good order, I will format the hdd and install desktop edition
[09:16] <bahadirt> is that okay ?
[09:16] <garryF> I reccomend using the alternate cd for installing. Its more flexible
[09:17] <bahadirt> desktop or alternate
[09:17] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, sure why not
[09:17] <bahadirt> whichevet better
[09:17] <ShaunES> Desktop.
[09:17] <ShaunES> Er.
[09:17] <solid_liq> bahadirt: use Kubuntu :D
[09:17] <ShaunES> garryF, is there any way at all?
[09:17] <linux_user400354> bahadirt alternate has been tested more so its less likely to have bugs
[09:17] <Imme-emosol> solid_liq I don't think so... If we think the same about manual... You don't mean that default step by step thin right? I always make the menu believe I'm an expert... :p
[09:17] <ShaunES> It looks like I need to move "esd".
[09:17] <bahadirt> I will download alternate cd and burn iso
[09:17] <bahadirt> then re-install
[09:17] <bahadirt> from the beginning
[09:17] <bahadirt> it takes second only, running on Pentium Dual 2.66
[09:18] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: oh, ok, I meant creating the partitions, copying files over, chrooting in, etc. :D
[09:18] <solid_liq> bahadirt: nice
[09:18] <garryF> ShaunES The alternate allows for install of grub bootloader on other than the mbr of the first drive, and some other flexibility during install
[09:18] <Imme-emosol> solid_liq nope, not done that. :p
[09:18] <bahadirt> wait for me guys. My return will be fabulous ;)
[09:18] <ShaunES> garryF, I don't want to install, I want it as a livecd.
[09:18] <Imme-emosol> Can I use the whole disk or rather not? Leave a little space?
[09:18] <garryF> Oh. I see. Nm.
[09:18] <ShaunES> As it is it's freezing on the brown screen.
[09:19] <solid_liq> bahadirt: I got an amd64 X2 (dualcore) about 8 mo. ago and I already want one with the new intel core 2 duo :D
[09:19] <swim> is there any application that is able to play wmv's that have drm?
[09:19] <romulo> theres any channel for edgy?
[09:19] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: k, I was wondering why you wanted to do that under ubuntu :D
[09:19] <linux_user400354> !info edgy
[09:19] <ubotu> Package edgy does not exist in dapper
[09:19] <jk2> Is Ubuntu install supposed to figure out the display's dpi?
[09:19] <_3fg> !dvd
[09:19] <bahadirt> solid : trust me it means nothing at all unless you see the x :)
[09:19] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:19] <linux_user400354> !edgy
[09:19] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:19] <garryF> !resolution
[09:19] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:20] <linux_user400354> !schedule
[09:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:20] <solid_liq> jk2: yep
[09:20] <solid_liq> bahadirt: x-windows you mean?
[09:20] <bahadirt> yeag
[09:20] <solid_liq> linux_user400354: could you /msg ubotu instead please?
[09:21] <Imme-emosol> :P
[09:21] <solid_liq> bahadirt: I'd notice the diff when compiling software too :D
[09:21] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, linux without x is always a good learning experience
[09:21] <Bonez> kekek
[09:21] <Imme-emosol> So now I see there's more to live then ext2, ext3 and reiser... :S
[09:22] <solid_liq> linux_user400354, bahadirt: and the only way to run a server :D
[09:22] <Imme-emosol> GNU HURD :S:S:S?
[09:22] <ShaunES> Is there any way to shave 50mb off the alternative .ISO?
[09:22] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: I wouldn't recommend reiser, it always gets corrupted after awhile.  It took over two years for me, but when it did, it SUCKED
[09:23] <swim> is there any application that is able to play wmv's that have drm?
[09:23] <solid_liq> swim: nope
[09:23] <swim> hrmm kinda lame
[09:23] <solid_liq> swim: you have to use the original win32 codecs to play them period, and they check for drm restrictions
[09:23] <Imme-emosol> I want the most stable one, one hd-dead is enough... :p   ext3? Or something else?
[09:23] <garryF> google for linux livecd scripts and you will find you can install a linux system, run the script, and it creates a livecd version of the system. Useful if you are short on drive space.
[09:23] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: ext3 is always a good choice
[09:24] <hd420> sod this shite
[09:24] <solid_liq> garryF: also very usefull for deploying desktops in a small company
[09:24] <Imme-emosol> linux_user400354 you mentioned something beside ext3. ? What was that again? Does that fs also use journalling?
[09:24] <garryF> Yep, and I too like ext3 best.
[09:24] <linux_user400354> zfs, hopefully it will get ported to linux
[09:24] <swim> solid_liq: I have the proper username/pass for these... I can play them using the cxoffice mediaplayer plugins... but I dont like them
[09:25] <solid_liq> linux_user400354: yeah, I can't WAIT for that!  :)))
[09:25] <bahadirt> guys
[09:25] <bahadirt> one last q!
[09:25] <bahadirt> now I will either download ubuntu alternate -or- kubuntu
[09:25] <bahadirt> which one is the right?
[09:25] <solid_liq> swim: oh, dunno then.  I avoid wmv like the plague
[09:25] <bahadirt> I will use the computer as mail server
[09:25] <Imme-emosol> So zfs is not supported a.t.m. ?
[09:25] <solid_liq> bahadirt: just as a mail server, not a desktop?
[09:26] <swim> solid_liq: thats sort of impossible
[09:26] <solid_liq> Imme-emosol: no, it's a new fs from sun
[09:26] <linux_user400354> lmme-emosol, not in linux
[09:26] <solid_liq> swim: not completely
[09:26] <garryF> Well, You can actually download ubuntu alternate, install and then install kubuntu-desktop and have the choice to switch between gnome and kde.
[09:26] <Imme-emosol> ah okay, to compete with ntfs ?
[09:26] <hd420> this is shite
[09:27] <linux_user400354> lmme-emosol, i dont understand. what is your question?
[09:27] <bahadirt> but I want to use as desktop as well
[09:27] <bahadirt> for fun
[09:28] <Imme-emosol> is zfs Sun's reaction to the ntfs ?
[09:28] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, you have to decide whether you like kde or gnome better
[09:28] <garryF> use either, you have your choice.
[09:28] <Imme-emosol> linux_user: I'm going to format my drive, so that's why I asked. :)
[09:28] <bahadirt> which is more stable ?
[09:28] <bahadirt> iac this will act as a server :)
[09:29] <bahadirt> I dont want crashes and stuff
[09:29] <garryF> there is a quite a lot of controversy about that.
[09:29] <linux_user400354> lmme-emosol, trying something different is good. you should try reiserfs.
[09:29] <Imme-emosol> From what I've read I concluded kde is more stable...
[09:29] <Imme-emosol> ext2 or ext3 IS something different. :p
[09:29] <garryF> simply changing your /etc/inittab default runlevel to 3 and it will start in command line like a server, if you want to start the gui, then do startx
[09:29] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, gnome uses less resources than kde. i prefer it.
[09:30] <bahadirt> ok. I download alternate and install
[09:30] <bahadirt> that's the final decision
[09:30] <Imme-emosol> But since it isn't build upon gpl completely like gnome, I prefer gnome.
[09:30] <bahadirt> some 700 mb :) see you a week later guys
[09:30] <garryF> hehe, bahadirt
[09:30] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, why so long. are you downloading on dial up?
[09:31] <bahadirt> no but limited bandwidth.. 20-25kbits
[09:31] <bahadirt> of 2mbits adsl
[09:31] <garryF> holy cow. .... ouch.
[09:31] <bahadirt> 6 hrs left..
[09:31] <master5o1> :P
[09:31] <Bonez> what speed connections to others here have?
[09:31] <Bonez> i'm just curious
[09:32] <master5o1> holy shit...slow
[09:32] <solid_li> sorry, my connection dropped out :(
[09:32] <solid_li> bahadirt: are you going to use it as a desktop too, or just a mail server?
[09:32] <Bonez> solid_li: what speed is your connection
[09:32] <solid_li> Imme-emosol: no, ntfs isn't that great
[09:32] <solid_li> Imme-emosol: zfs is the most badass filesystem on the planet, beats EVERYTHING else hands down
[09:32] <Imme-emosol> Wait a sec...   ext2 or 3 or reiser are not compatible with windows or macos?
[09:32] <garryF> He did want both destop and server modes
[09:33] <Imme-emosol> solid_li why's that then?
[09:33] <solid_li> Bonez: wireless connection
[09:33] <linux_user400354> lmme-emosol, ntfs doesnt come close to zfs
[09:33] <Bonez> solid_li: what speed?
[09:33] <solid_li> Imme-emosol: there's a wikipedia article if you want to see the filesystem comparison chart
[09:33] <master5o1> im in NZ...2mbps (max here is 3.5mbps) down...and 128kbps (max here is 512kbps) up...
[09:33] <solid_li> Bonez: dude, it's just 802.11
[09:33] <master5o1> 19:34
[09:34] <Bonez> solid_li: k
[09:34] <master5o1> maybe 35?
[09:34] <Imme-emosol> solid_li: firefox isn't coorporating, so can't look at that right now... :p
[09:34] <master5o1> opera :P
[09:34] <garryF> There is a utility for reading ext2 and more recently ext3 for most distros from windows, but last I tried, it wasn't all that stable.
[09:34] <Imme-emosol> coorporating = co-operating :S
[09:34] <garryF> and I forgot the name.
[09:34] <mneptok> Imme-emosol: there is an XP driver for ext2/3
[09:34] <GhettoPuNKkiD> can someone help with videolan? my capture device is showing the image then part of it below it?
[09:34] <mneptok> Imme-emosol: MacOSX only supports HFS, HFS+, UFS, and FAT32
[09:35] <Imme-emosol> mneptok, macOsX no Fat16?
[09:35] <mneptok> Imme-emosol: not AFAIK. but maybe.
[09:35] <mneptok> Imme-emosol: GIYF
[09:35] <linux_user400354> does anyone know when google is supposed to come out with a web browser?
[09:36] <mneptok> linux_user400354: "not anytime soon"
[09:36] <master5o1> Google is being mean...I liked Google better when i was on windows :D
[09:36] <Imme-emosol> mneptok gimf, but firefox isn't a.t.m. so...
[09:36] <Imme-emosol> master5ol, why's that?
[09:36] <linux_user400354> master5o1, why? some google software runs in linux.
[09:37] <bahadirt> solid : mail server for 2 clients
[09:37] <jxt> 'lo
[09:37] <Imme-emosol> master5ol there's a special unix google...
[09:37] <linux_user400354> mneptok, why do you say that?
[09:37] <bahadirt> but some 10.000 mails out / 20000 in
[09:37] <bahadirt> 2000 sorry
[09:37] <garryF> I am google of borg. ....
[09:37] <bahadirt> same time I will experience ubuntu so I need xserver
[09:37] <RedGhost> what is the default path for GCC on ubuntu
[09:37] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, are the clients paying you?
[09:37] <Bonez> what speed connections do ppl here have?
[09:37] <mneptok> Imme-emosol: "About the Mac OS X 10.3.9 Update (Delta) .... Addresses a rare issue in which a file could become damaged when copying to a FAT16- or FAT32-formatted volume."
[09:38] <crimsun> RedGhost: /usr/bin/gcc
[09:38] <mneptok> Imme-emosol: so apparently, yes
[09:38] <crimsun> RedGhost: if you don't have it, install build-essential
[09:38] <jxt> One question: default GNOME media player is Rhythmbox so keyboard shortcuts refer to it. I use QuodLibet and would like to set it as a default player -- anybody know how? Now I've got QuodLibet, but when I push "Media" on my keyboard -- Rhythmbox is starting. Google found nothing but junk. :/
[09:38] <garryF> bahadirt: The system should know that your gui choice depends on having xserver, and install it.
[09:38] <spades> Bonez 60/20 mbps but im at work, 10/2 at home
[09:38] <Bonez> spades: fark, nice
[09:38] <jxt> I just bound my "Media" key to "Start media player" in GNOME shortcuts.
[09:39] <jxt> But I'd like to have media player == QuodLibet
[09:39] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, put your default run level at 3 and then you can startx when you want to use it
[09:39] <mneptok> linux_user400354: Google has sunk a lot of money and effort into Firefox and Opera. i doubt they'd do so if they were developing a competing product.
[09:39] <bahadirt> now downloading alternate cd of ubuntu
[09:39] <bahadirt> 3 hrs left
[09:39] <bahadirt> once its here will give a try
[09:40] <garryF> Hey, not bad progress.
[09:40] <bahadirt> hope this time startx will work :)
[09:40] <master5o1> Bonez: In New Zealand, the max speed is 3.5mbps down + 512kbps up...my speed is 2mbps/128kbps ...meh..will change now coz of unbundling
[09:40] <Imme-emosol> neptok thnx 4 being my alternative browser ;)
[09:40] <master5o1> :D
[09:40] <jxt> I thought of using "Preferred apps" but there's nothing about Media player.
[09:40] <jxt> :/
[09:40] <mneptok> Bonez: i'm sitting alone on a T1. :)
[09:40] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, are your clients paying you?
[09:40] <RedGhost> .. /usr/bin/gcc does not exist and the only gcc packages i can find are gcc-4.0-base which seems to be the documentation
[09:40] <kameron> a
[09:40] <Gasolin_> [problem]  Enter GUI login sceen but USB keyboard&mouse can not work. I'm using Dell 2.7G
[09:40] <jxt> RedGhost, whaaat?
[09:40] <Imme-emosol> You should all browse using amaya :P
[09:41] <godtvisk1n> I have version 2.0.0beta3 of Gaim, but gaim-otr won't work with it. How can I downgrade Gaim or fix it so that gaim-otr works?
[09:41] <garryF> In Gome there is an add/remove menu items choice under /applications at the very bottom.
[09:41] <garryF> gnome
[09:41] <Seveas> !compiling > RedGhost
[09:41] <jxt> RedGhost, apt-get install gcc works here.
[09:41] <jxt> So, anyone knows how to change default GNOME media player to QuodLibet ?
[09:42] <Seveas> mneptok, ?
[09:42] <garryF> System/Preferences/preferred applications I think
[09:42] <jxt> garryF, well... no.
[09:42] <bahadirt> linux_user : no. we have an ms exchange server in our company
[09:42] <Hexidigital_>  i need help with my CUPS server... anyone know how i can make it listen on my hostname, not IP address? (also, having a problem accessing the printer, but i'm not sure if that is related)
[09:42] <mneptok> Seveas: just saying cheerio :)
[09:42] <garryF> jxt K
[09:42] <jxt> garryF, there's e-mail client, web browser and terminal emulator. Tried this.
[09:42] <Seveas> mneptok, weird way to do so
[09:42] <bahadirt> most of the clients using that but we had a fight with management and decided to put our linux server
[09:42] <bahadirt> just for 2 clients :)
[09:43] <mneptok> jxt: right-click a media file. choose "Properties"
[09:43] <bahadirt> they are a bit pissed off due to our traffic
[09:43] <mneptok> Seveas: most everything about me is weird :)
[09:43] <bahadirt> we sacrificed a 20k$ ibm e-server and built a p-duo here
[09:43] <RedGhost> i know how to compile the problem is make is giving me an invalid command GCC isnt located in usr/bin and the only repository package is the gcc-4.0-base
[09:44] <polpak> RedGhost: installed build-essential ?
[09:44] <linux_user400354> linux is known to be a better server than microsoft 2003 server
[09:44] <pse> Hi. This isn't ubuntu specific, but I noticed in my router leasing table, all my windows boxes have their hostnames listed, but my ubuntu box only shows up as an IP
[09:44] <jxt> mneptok, yes, there's QuodLibet, but "Media" on the keyboard still starts Rhythmbox.
[09:44] <brynk> anyone here know how long it'll be before the vmware player fix is done?
[09:44] <pse> Any ideas why that might be?
[09:44] <garryF> !info build-essential > RedGhost
[09:44] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[09:44] <nicholaspaul> Anyone know how to forcibly empty the trash? Mines being stubborn.
[09:45] <Imme-emosol> So what flag do I give tot the o command for cfdisk ? Or should I use something else:S?
[09:45] <polpak> nicholaspaul: cd ~ && rm -rf .Trash && mkdir .Trash
[09:46] <nicholaspaul> Thx polpak !
[09:46] <garryF> Sounds like you Might have to put sudo before that if its like mine, the trash had suff owned by root.
[09:46] <jxt> mneptok, I want GNOME to use QuodLibet as default media player -- also with keyboard shortcuts.
[09:46] <garryF> Doh, never mind, it just worked.
[09:47] <Imme-emosol> Guess I'm going then... Installing from the install-CD... :S :P
[09:47] <Imme-emosol> Thanks for the help all who did.
[09:48] <mneptok> jxt: give this a read - http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q22
[09:48] <ardchoille> W00T! www.tldp.org ROCKS!
[09:48] <pse> No thoughts on why my router can't detect my box's hostname?
[09:48] <garryF> wireless router?
[09:49] <BioGeek> Hey, I have a pdf-related question, but I don't know if this is the appropriate channel...
[09:49] <jxt> mneptok, yeah great. All media are played by QuodLibet by default, but it's still not the gnome default media player.
[09:49] <pse> Nah, regular type.
[09:49] <RedGhost> i cant install build-essential because the internet connection isnt working, and i need GCC to install a package to fix the networking
[09:49] <pse> Or, yes, it's a wireless router, but the conneciton is wired.
[09:49] <garryF> ack!
[09:49] <jxt> mneptok, so what the Nautilus and all the apps open MP3's in QuodLibet when pushing "Media" button on the keyboard still starts Rhythmbox.
[09:49] <mneptok> jxt: that article describes how to alter GNOME's MIME db to change default apps and behavior
[09:49] <livingdaylight> BioGeek: do you use ubuntu?
[09:49] <pse> garryF: It's not.. crucial or anything. It is just weird.
[09:49] <garryF> !wireless > pse
[09:50] <RichEd> morning ... has anyone got experience with docking a live notebook while running ubuntu / edubuntu ... should it pick up external mouse & keyboard by itself ? (screen seemed to be instant) mouse & keyboard seemed to hang this morning
[09:50] <BioGeek> yes, but I don't think it's ubuntu specific
[09:50] <mneptok> you!
[09:50] <pse> I think you misunderstood. It's all wired. Everything works fine, and it's all dandy. Except the hostname just doesn't show up in the list.
[09:51] <BioGeek> livingdaylight: namely: can you link to a particular page in a pdf document?
[09:51] <BioGeek> livingdaylight: or do you know a channel where they can help me better with that?
[09:52] <ic56> pse: look into the linux box's dhcp config.  /etc/dhclient.conf  Probably setting option host-name will cause it tell your router by what name the linux box wishes to be known
[09:52] <linux_user400354> BioGeek, "man pdfinfo"
[09:52] <bahadirt> does postfix come along with ubuntu alternate cd ?
[09:52] <bahadirt> or shld I download it seperately
[09:52] <bahadirt> ?
[09:52] <pse> Ahhhh. I see.
[09:52] <garryF> !pdf
[09:52] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/KPDF/gpdf, adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[09:53] <pse> Thanks.
[09:53] <timfrost> !info postfix
[09:53] <ubotu> postfix: A high-performance mail transport agent. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.2.10-1ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 901 kB, installed size 2172 kB
[09:53] <section31> how can i install the latest apache with apt-get..the package that i have from the latest source is using apache 2.0 and not apache 2.2
[09:53] <cyphase> HOWTO to install Slab (the SLED 10 menu) in Ubuntu: http://ubuntuos.com/2006/07/howto-install-the-sled-menu
[09:53] <BioGeek> livingdaylight: OK, thanks for the tip!
[09:53] <cyphase> can we get it into edgy?
[09:53] <mneptok> bahadirt: do you have much experience with Postfix?
[09:53] <nicholaspaul> polpak: i'm stil having trouble emptying trash. Can i change ownership of all thats in it to 'me'?
[09:53] <garryF> !info apache > section31
[09:53] <ubotu> apache: versatile, high-performance HTTP server. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.3.34-2 (dapper), package size 375 kB, installed size 808 kB
[09:53] <bahadirt> no any exp. at all :) but I need to install a mail server
[09:54] <linux_user400354> bahadirt, if it comes seperately, you can download the deb and putting it on a floppy disk, or you can easily add ubuntu server as a repository using synaptic and get it from there.
[09:54] <pse> Aha. That did it.
[09:54] <pse> Well, that's... exciting.
[09:54] <mneptok> bahadirt: you might find Exim to be easier to start with *shrug*
[09:54] <section31> ubotu,am i going to have to compile it myself
[09:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu,am i going to have to compile it myself - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:54] <livingdaylight> BioGeek: sorry, i'm short on tips
[09:54] <garryF> probably not officially available for ubuntu yet --- apache2.2
[09:54] <section31> oops
[09:54] <section31> haha
[09:54] <pse> Mystery solved.
[09:54] <pse> ic56: do you know of any reason why the name isn't transmitted by default?
[09:55] <pse> Oh.
[09:55] <pse> Hummm.
[09:55] <pse> I didn't realize dhcp could assign names as well.
[09:55] <pse> I guess there's my answer.
[09:55] <polpak> nicholaspaul: sudo chown -R username:username ~/.Trash
[09:55] <section31> how can i find a list of installed packages via apt-get
[09:56] <nicholaspaul> polpak: Thx again!
[09:56] <garryF> !other users but garryF knows less than he appears. he is more a parasite trying to learn while pretending to help!
[09:56] <ic56> pse: yes.  By default, the system administrator doesn't care what the box or the box's user wants.  The admin assigns the correct hostnames via DNS.
[09:56] <garryF> Hmm, can't have fun with Ubotu any more.
[09:56] <pse> Well. Neat. You learn something new everyday. Thanks a bunch.
[09:56] <pse> Ciao, all.
[09:57] <ic56> pse: I mean, of course, the site administrator -- not the individual box's admin
[09:57] <Hexidigital_>  i need help with my CUPS server... i was able to get the KDE print manager to access the CUPS server, but i cannot view the available printers. any ideas?
[09:57] <mneptok> Seveas: he calls it "fun." we call it "reasons to stab garryF in the face"
[09:58] <garryF> Bah Sevaas. Need to lighten up, but I won't make that mitake again.
[09:58] <hyperstream> how do you change your msn nickname in gaim. ive noticed you can set your own alias but it doesnt actually change it to other users who are receieving you IM's
[09:58] <mpathy> Hi there.. How could I output the compilation options used for a ubuntu package?
[09:58] <mneptok> hyperstream: you get a new account.
[09:58] <mpathy> Or is there a website wherer I can look for that?
[09:58] <mneptok> mpathy: LP?
[09:58] <hyperstream> why would you get a new account?
[09:58] <garryF> To much gratituous kicking of regulars.
[09:59] <mpathy> mneptok: Whats LP?
[09:59] <hyperstream> i can just jump into windows xp and change it in MSN
[09:59] <test> Hiya
[09:59] <Hexidigital_> mpathy::  afaik, the Alias is for you to change the names of others, not vice versa
[09:59] <hyperstream> mneptok, so why would i get a new account for everytime i wanna change my msn DISPLAY nickname ?
[09:59] <jxt> mneptok, still doesn't work.
[09:59] <linux_user400354> Hexidigital_ http://localhost:631
[09:59] <test> is there a way to change the mime icons in gnome?
[09:59] <jxt> mneptok, and still -- Media button runs Rhythmbox.
[09:59] <Hexidigital_> linux_user400354::  it's on a remote server
[09:59] <mpathy> mneptok: what alias? dont understand.
[09:59] <mneptok> hyperstream: so you're surprised that a service that is offered by Microsoft has different behavior on Microsoft OSes than it does in apps that are forced to reverse-engineer MS' closed protocols?
[10:00] <mpathy> mneptok: I want to know for example, if package scponly is compiled with --enable-svn-compat
[10:00] <Hexidigital_> linux_user400354::  although, i tried that address w/ the server name, and i got a FORBIDDEN page
[10:01] <test> without recompiling the code i mean.....
[10:01] <linux_user400354> Hexidigital_ then replace localhost with the servers ip. you will have to have it configured for you to be able to administer the cups server.
[10:01] <hyperstream> mneptok, how did you get the impression i was suprised?
[10:01] <mneptok> mpathy: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/i386/scponly/4.6-1
[10:01] <Hexidigital_> linux_user400354::  ok, thanks... i'll take a look
[10:01] <test> this is going to sound stupid but what is microsoft?
[10:01] <hyperstream> why would one have to get a new hotmail/msn account in order to change a nickname ? is my question.
[10:02] <Hexidigital_> test::  are you serious?
[10:02] <hyperstream> Hexidigital_,  ROTF
[10:02] <linux_user400354> test, where have you been all your life?
[10:02] <test> Hexidigital_: Yeah I'm serious. I stay in alot.
[10:02] <hyperstream> mneptok, i mean other MULTI chat clients such as trillian and others can do it.
[10:02] <Hexidigital_> test::  Microsoft is the reason  WE are HERE now!
[10:02] <x3n0n> i.e. microcrap
[10:03] <test> The name sounds stupid.
[10:03] <rob> heh, zealots
[10:03] <test> I was just curious
[10:03] <linux_user400354> test, its a company that copies ideas from other companies and makes money from them
[10:03] <Hexidigital_> test::  btw, Microsoft talk should be taken to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:03] <x3n0n> heh
[10:03] <mneptok> hyperstream: t6hey can change how the display name appears to you. but any user can change how you appear to them.
[10:03] <test> linux_user400354: Okay. Thanks.
[10:03] <ozzloy> asdf
[10:04] <ozzloy> f
[10:04] <hyperstream> mneptok, trillian changes the name so it appears to everyone. gaim doesnt as far as i know and my question once again is can gaim do this ?
[10:04] <test> back to the on topic question? Is there a way to change the gnome mime icons without recompiling?
[10:04] <mneptok> hyperstream: http://gaim.sf.net
[10:05] <wiking> please help me to install plugins for Totem movie player
[10:05] <mpathy> mneptok: okay.. in http://librarian.launchpad.net/1928543/buildlog_ubuntu-dapper-i386.scponly_4.6-1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz in found: ./configure CFLAGS='-Wall -g -O2' --host=i486-linux-gnu --build=i486-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --mandir=\${prefix}/share/man --infodir=\${prefix}/share/info --sysconfdir=\${prefix}/../etc --enable-scp-compat --enable-winscp-compat --enable-rsync-compat --enable-unison-compat --enable-chrooted-binary --enable-passwd-comp
[10:05] <garryF> Does that work for tells mneptok? Some user names are virtually obstuficated with similar looking characters and are therefore almost impossible to send tells to.
[10:05] <mneptok> garryF: i have no idea. i don;t use any MS products or services.
[10:06] <nicholaspaul> When i open the trash, there are 3 folders i cant delete...when I use terminal, ls -a shows nothing. What the?
[10:06] <mneptok> (well, except input devices. they have some nice mice.)
[10:06] <mpathy> But is there no easier way? Would be really helpful to have a fast way to check if I can using a ubuntu package instead of compiling it myself
[10:06] <garryF> mneptok Oops, sorry, I ddin't notice.
[10:06] <linux_user400354> section31, i dont see a way its possible with apt-get. you could try "sudo dpkg -l"
[10:07] <test> back to the on topic question? Is there a way to change the gnome mime icons without recompiling?
[10:07] <wiking> please help me to install plugins for Totem movie player! anybody!
[10:07] <hyperstream> mneptok, ahh so i dont have to register a new email account yes?
[10:07] <nicholaspaul> anyone know how to kill the trash totally?
[10:07] <mneptok> hyperstream: 01:03 < mneptok> garryF: i have no idea. i don;t use any MS products or services.
[10:07] <linux_user400354> test, replace them with other icons. have you tried that?
[10:08] <godtvisk1n> Has anyone been able to get Gaim 2.0.0beta3 to work with gaim-otr 3.0.0 ?
[10:08] <hyperstream> lawl so why did you not state that earlyer? instead of telling me to get a new email account.
[10:09] <test> linux_user400354: You mean every single icon individually?
[10:09] <garkoil> hello all
[10:09] <javiolo> hi
[10:09] <wiking> please help me to install plugins for Totem movie player! anybody!
[10:09] <test> garkoil: Hiya
[10:09] <garkoil> can anyone explain me the meaning of mount -o loop
[10:09] <garryF> !totem plugins
[10:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about totem plugins - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:09] <garkoil> hola test
[10:09] <garryF> !plugins > wiking
[10:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about plugins  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:10] <garryF> ack, sorry
[10:10] <test> !restrictedformats
[10:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:10] <brynk> test, you can change them individually or use a different icon theme
[10:10] <drunken-wallaby> hi everyone.
[10:10] <Seveas> garkoil, mount -o loop is what's use for mounting an .iso file
[10:10] <garkoil> oh ok
[10:10] <ozzloy> test
[10:10] <garkoil> I didn't get that from the man
[10:11] <linux_user400354> dont you need fuse to mount an iso?
[10:11] <Seveas> linux_user400354, no
[10:11] <brynk> nope
[10:11] <garryF> Now that's worth saving in my faq Seveas. :)
[10:11] <linux_user400354> has anyone got gmailfs to work in ubuntu?
[10:11] <ozzloy> can anyone see what i'm typing?
[10:11] <test> brynk: i am not sure i want a theme someone else made. Oh have you ever heard of an icon change disabling a mounted drive by chance?
[10:11] <Seveas> ozzloy, no
[10:11] <test> ozzloy: Hiya. Can I help you?
[10:11] <ozzloy> Seveas: thanks
[10:11] <garkoil> ozzloy, we can what you type
[10:11] <ozzloy> haha
[10:11] <ozzloy> sorry test
[10:12] <test> ozzloy: no problems :)
[10:12] <brynk> test:no i haven't since that's impossible
[10:12] <linux_user400354> test, you can make your own theme
[10:12] <brynk> test: anyway, you can make your own icon theme
[10:12] <garryF> Seveas:  Does that work without special fstab entries?
[10:12] <test> brynk: Any idea how difficult it would be?
[10:12] <ozzloy> thanks all
[10:12] <Seveas> garryF, sure, see mount's manpage
[10:12] <drunken-wallaby> i've got a question. i created a small partition (ext3) for which i want that every user on my system can write or read files (just to transfer files quick and easy from one to another account) to this partition. the problem is, that when user A copies a file to the partition, other users can't read this file since it belongs to user A. question: do i need to play with samba to solve this or is there a quick way as well?
[10:13] <garryF> Seveas Thanks!
[10:13] <test> brynk: I could swear changing my cd icon disabled it. hmmm interesting.
[10:13] <linux_user400354> drunken-wallaby "man chmod"
[10:14] <wiking> garryF, what You mean?
[10:14] <linux_user400354> has anyone got gmailFS to work in ubuntu?
[10:14] <hyperstream> drunken-wallaby,  you could set it to like security = share
[10:14] <hyperstream> like a windows network
[10:14] <test> I was wondering about setting up local mail too, but wouldn't know where to start. :)
[10:15] <Alex0r> Whoa, I've been in here all day and I haven't spoken in .. hours
[10:15] <garryF> wiking Was supposed to send you info on installing plugins for totem.
[10:15] <OK8> Is it possible to mount NTFS drives with write support using the liveCD.
[10:15] <linux_user400354> its the software thats supposed to let you mount your gmail space
[10:15] <master5o1> Microsoft = Microshit or Microcock; Windows = Windoesn't or Winfroze;
[10:15] <garryF> I don't think so and ntfs linux write support is risky still.
[10:15] <drunken-wallaby> linux_user400354 i've chmoded the folder 777 already. but newly copied files belong to the user who copies them, though. could this be a thing in /etc/fstab as well?
[10:15] <test> brynk: Can you point me to a place with theme construction info please?
[10:15] <drunken-wallaby> hyperstream where could i set this parameter (security = share)?
[10:16] <linux_user400354> drunken-wallaby chgrp and chown
[10:16] <OK8> damnit
[10:16] <Hexidigital_> !postfix
[10:16] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix or here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[10:16] <Hexidigital_> test::  there, go work on  your mail for a while
[10:16] <test> Hexidigital_: Thanks, Ask to many questions huh?
[10:17] <Hexidigital_> test::  no, just helping you set up your mail
[10:17] <hyperstream> in your smb.conf
[10:17] <hyperstream> near the top
[10:17] <test> Hexidigital_: Thank you for the link.
[10:17] <hyperstream> if you are using the default example etc. when you scroll down you'll see security section
[10:17] <Hexidigital_> test::  np
[10:18] <grodius_> Hi my USB drives are not being detected as the right size
[10:18] <test> Hexidigital_: I'll let you know how it turns out. :)
[10:18] <Hexidigital_> test::  i look forward to it
[10:19] <OK8> well is it possible to resize the NTFS partition using gnome partition manager. Yesterday I just got a very informative error just plainly stating "unable to"
[10:20] <Hexidigital_> is there a problem with the Wiki 's? i cannot get some of the pages to load
[10:20] <garryF> Probably resizing of ntfs partions via any linux stuff is like writing, still experimental and buggy. Tha'ts my guess that its' disabled by default.
[10:21] <OK8> it seems that resizing ntfs just fails... hmm can't help it then
[10:24] <garryF> Hexidigital_: Do you have a url for a particular wiki that don't work for you that I can try? The ones I tried seem to work?
[10:24] <Hexidigital_> garryF::  nevermind... i got it to work in firefox, but konquerer didn't load it properly
[10:24] <Hexidigital_> garryF::  ty anyway
[10:24] <garryF> Hexidigital_ Grats
[10:31] <test> Hexidigital_: Problem.... I can't find the sas files. :(
[10:33] <Hexidigital_> test::  sorry, i don't know much about postfix... i dont have a mailserver
[10:34] <test> Hexidigital_: It's okay. I guess its google time. :)
[10:34] <sophie_marshall> whenever I run gnome-window-decorator GDM seems to restart
[10:35] <sophie_marshall> any of u fellas got an idea why?
[10:35] <nbminh> hello
[10:37] <whadar> hey... anyone got gmailfs to work? it fails with "mount: unknown filesystem type 'gmailfs'"
[10:37] <arooni> how can i install flash 9
[10:37] <arooni> or the equivalent
[10:38] <bjorn-> hi! .. wow, this channel was larger than the ef-net one :-)
[10:39] <amadeo1988> I have downloaded Cedega per advice from a friend off bittorrent network, and would now like to install it, it was a .tar file that came with /usr/ /etc /opt folders i was told to cp this to / but only when i do i get an error messege about omitting directories, im new to ubuntu dapper drake and new to linux pretty much, anyhelp would be most appreadiated
[10:39] <bjorn-> is it possible to make ubuntu copy on select the way I'm used to from redhat? :)
[10:40] <mneptok> bjorn-: i believe you can do that gconf-editor
[10:40] <mneptok> +with
[10:40] <ajayc> !radio
[10:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about radio - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:40] <tristan_> Anyone has a USB tuner TV key that work under linux?
[10:40] <bjorn-> mneptok: thanks, I'll look into that
[10:40] <whadar> !gmailfs
[10:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about gmailfs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:40] <ajayc> can anyone suggest a radio app for ubuntu?
[10:40] <amadeo1988> I have downloaded Cedega per advice from a friend off bittorrent network, and would now like to install it, it was a .tar file that came with /usr/ /etc /opt folders i was told to cp this to / but only when i do i get an error messege about omitting directories, im new to ubuntu dapper drake and new to linux pretty much, anyhelp would be most appreaciated
[10:41] <amadeo1988> sorry didnt mean to do that again
[10:41] <whadar> ajayc - xmms
[10:41] <ajayc> whadar, a app with which i can browse stations and then listen
[10:41] <whadar> amarok is good but dont play good with ubuntu...
[10:42] <ajayc> any other?
[10:42] <mneptok> amadeo1988: you're asking for help with software that you are using unlicensed. not cool.
[10:42] <amadeo1988> I dont understand?
[10:42] <amadeo1988> unlicensed?
[10:42] <mneptok> amadeo1988: Cedega is not a free product
[10:42] <whadar> ajayc: amarok has a playlist called "cool streams" which lists radio stations
[10:42] <amadeo1988> im new to ubuntu, oh? i was told it was.. and was given a link to it
[10:42] <amadeo1988> to download it
[10:42] <mneptok> amadeo1988: and "downloading it off BitTorrent" is not the way to acquire a subscription
[10:43] <ajayc> whadar, get streamtuner
[10:43] <amadeo1988> is bittorrent bad?
[10:43] <ajayc> with xmms
[10:43] <amadeo1988> ive used it before and its worked
[10:43] <bjorn-> amadeo1988: for downloading software it's bad, for screwing over RIAA/MPAA it's good :-P
[10:43] <mneptok> amadeo1988: there's nothing wrong with BitTorrent
[10:43] <nyriador> hi - i'm completely new at using ubuntu, and i need help. i am trying to run easyubuntu, and the application fails to work. i get a long error message in terminal, among which are "errors were encountered while processing - clvm, redhat-cluster-suite & system-config-cluster". Anyone can help? I tried to google the damn thing, to no avail....
[10:43] <amadeo1988> Well can you help me install it?
[10:44] <mneptok> amadeo1988: sorry, i like my karma as-is
[10:44] <whadar> ajayc: you can use as a plugin for xmms?
[10:44] <esher> http://www.worldjumpday.org
[10:44] <finalbeta> amadeo1988, their is a bitorrent client installed on ubuntu
[10:44] <amadeo1988> is there a free alternative to cedega?
[10:44] <amadeo1988> maybe
[10:44] <ajayc> whadar, dunno just do sudo apt-get install streamtuner xmms
[10:45] <mneptok> amadeo1988: you could try the free version of VMWare and run Windows that way
[10:45] <mneptok> *shrug*
[10:45] <garryF> nyriador: Easyubuntu seems to be broken lately. There is also Automatix if I recall, its more complicated, but no guarantee of sucess either.
[10:45] <amadeo1988> how about this wine i keep hearing about
[10:46] <bjorn-> yes, Wine or VMWare Player which is free ..
[10:46] <bjorn-> Windows is not free though
[10:46] <finalbeta> for wine you need to add new repo's, the wine inside the ubuntu repos is way to old again
[10:46] <ajayc> bjorn-, what actuallly is wine plater
[10:46] <ajayc> vmware*
[10:46] <mneptok> yeah, you pay with your sanity
[10:46] <amadeo1988> i know windows isnt free, im running that in dual boot
[10:46] <scott_> hey, ive finally got rid of my ati radeon 9600pro (total crap under linux) and got myself a shiny new nvidia 6800gs, what packages should i uninstall/configs to things to do before i remove my ati and put in my nice shiny new nvidia?
[10:46] <amadeo1988> scott_: Gs is bad brand my friend
[10:47] <bjorn-> ajayc: VMWare Player for running Windows inside ubuntu, like any other application. It's a virtual machine 'player'
[10:47] <Toma-> amadeo1988: qemu is better than vmware imho..
[10:47] <scott_> i have agop
[10:47] <ajayc> bjorn-, its free?
[10:47] <scott_> agp
[10:47] <scott_> so its good
[10:47] <amadeo1988> toma-_ isit free?
[10:47] <amadeo1988> scott_: oh i understand
[10:47] <Toma-> amadeo1988: yep.
[10:47] <mneptok> Toma-: Qemu is an emulator. VMare is not.
[10:47] <nyriador> garryF: thanks. I was told to stay clear of automatix, but i'll give it a try. however, i'm concerned that something is broken somewhere in ubuntu - i remember an error message while trying to add/remove applications. i wonder if it all could be related.
[10:47] <kristian> it there a new ati driver howto coming?
[10:47] <bjorn-> ajayc: yes, vmware.com ..i'm not sure if you need the vmware server to create hte image though .. but htere are lots of free images there
[10:47] <amadeo1988> Qemu is it easy for a ubuntu n00b?
[10:47] <Toma-> amadeo1988: its also, "free as in speech" apart from the kernel module you can use with it
[10:47] <mneptok> nyriador: i would recommend you stay away from any automated scripts
[10:48] <Toma-> !qemu
[10:48] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[10:48] <Toma-> amadeo1988: have a look ^^^
[10:48] <amadeo1988> i will
[10:48] <nyriador> mneptok: yeah. i'm starting to think i'd better....
[10:48] <amadeo1988> i want to run world of warcraft and fps's on linux thats all
[10:48] <mneptok> nyriador: those things are the fscking *bane* of my existence. i loathe them.
[10:48] <finalbeta> xen has announced collaboration with microsoft, perhaps we will be able to run Xp as a guest
[10:48] <Toma-> amadeo1988: WoW works perfectly under Wine. i wouldnt run any games thu vmware or qemu
[10:49] <mneptok> nyriador: often time the authors make some *really* bad decisions
[10:49] <paloyme> what is the extension used in firefox so i can browse websites that require ie?
[10:49] <amadeo1988> can someone link me to wine, i just looked at sourceforge and the fiels are no longer hosted
[10:49] <Toma-> !wine
[10:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:49] <garryF> nyriador I totally agree, yes, it could be related too.
[10:49] <ajayc> whadar, COOOL its ultimate it allows to record too
[10:49] <ajayc> :)
[10:50] <mneptok> nyriador: this is one of my favorite examples of just how stupid those automated scripts can be: "sudo sed -ie '/^%admin/s/ALL$/NOPASSWD: ALL/' /etc/sudoers"
[10:50] <garryF> !info wine
[10:50] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[10:50] <mneptok> nyriador: that turns off the need for sudo to require a password, but they don't set -e, so if the script fails, sudo will never require a password again. unbelievably horrid.
[10:50] <scott_> plus amadeo1988 its a 'golden sample' edition with a core clock speed of an extra 100mhz
[10:50] <cobelloy> hello, does anyone know how to get ubuntu to see my tv tuner card?
[10:51] <nyriador> mneptok: that's rather dumb... wonder why they'd do that in the first place.
[10:51] <garryF> Wow That is an issue.
[10:51] <Toma-> amadeo1988: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615
[10:52] <mneptok> nyriador: because often the authors of these scripts are adherents to the Microsoft "features over security and correctness" coding ideals
[10:52] <nyriador> garryF: if it is related... how do i fix ubuntu? i mean, if error were encountered with processing packages with dpkg.... how do i undo the errors?
[10:52] <nyriador> mneptok  - kinda defeats the point of being on linux,..
[10:52] <CaptainMorgan> yay... I love seeing new packages waiting to be updated..
[10:53] <garryF> Hmmm, I dunno, sorry. I think the scripts are broken rather than your Linux.
[10:53] <mneptok> nyriador: which is why those scripts are the bane of my existence, and why we do not recommend them ;)
[10:53] <garryF> The script easyubuntu used to be so handy, tis a shame they fell into such a state.
[10:53] <nyriador> garryF: so how do you go about fixing a script? (i mean, if you have a good link or something, that'd do too - i'm just not very good at this - yet)
[10:54] <dcnstrct> damnit the ubuntu disk image is < 700megs and won't fit on to any of my cds :(
[10:54] <mneptok> nyriador: why use a script? just use Synaptic and be happy.
[10:54] <dcnstrct> err >
[10:54] <garryF> nyriador Would have to know enough about ecriptingo to understand it.
[10:54] <Madpilot> dcnstrct, yeah, it got bumped up over 650Mb with the latest release
[10:55] <garryF> well, it did it all in one step and took alot of guesswork out of installing codecs and drivers one at a time via synaptek.
[10:55] <dcnstrct> Madpilot, which release is < 700megs ? I'd like to use it then just upgrade my software with apt-get
[10:55] <garryF> Moot point now. Synaptek is easier than trying to mess with scripts.
[10:55] <webharvey2002> hi all
[10:56] <mneptok> dcnstrct: any of the server images will work
[10:56] <Madpilot> dcnstrct, hm, the basic Ubuntu ISO is 697Mb
[10:56] <dcnstrct> Madpilot, not according to windows
[10:56] <nyriador> garryF: guess i'll try synaptic and do it the long way - anyways, better to learn how things work right now...
[10:56] <Madpilot> dcnstrct, it is according to Ubuntu - either Windows is smoking crack, or there's something wrong with your download
[10:56] <mneptok> nyriador: what goals do you want to accomplish first?
[10:56] <webharvey2002> could anyone tell me, how to deinstall grub? i have an win and ubuntu partition and wants to delete the unbunt for a new installation, thx
[10:56] <dcnstrct> windows says its (731,744,256 bytes)
[10:57] <dcnstrct> no doubt the M$ people have been hitting the rock
[10:57] <garryF> say nyriador Good luck, it will at least be an opportunity to learn more about Ubuntu.
[10:57] <mneptok> webharvey2002: boot to Windows, open a command prompt and type "fdisk mbr"
[10:57] <dcnstrct> never the less it won't fit on a 700meg cd
[10:57] <nyriador> mneptok: well. i want to be able to install the multimedia codecs - music, mainly
[10:57] <garryF> grr, oops.
[10:57] <Madpilot> dcnstrct, no, remember that 1Mb is NOT 1000bytes, but 1024
[10:57] <SGL> Hello
[10:57] <nyriador> garryF: exactly. and thanks :)
[10:57] <OK8> hey is there any way I could download some software/packet with apt-get to get video codecs up and running
[10:57] <mneptok> nyriador: install gstreamer-plugins-ugly from the Universe repo
[10:57] <webharvey2002> mneptok: i tried but didn't found the fdisk (dir fdisk*.* /s)
[10:58] <garryF> nyriador welcome.
[10:58] <SGL> Is installing programs in Ubuntu and Xubuntu the same???
[10:58] <dcnstrct> Madpilot, then maybe these 700meg cds are not really 700 megs
[10:58] <dcnstrct> I'll try the server image
[10:58] <rpedro> SGL: yes
[10:58] <dcnstrct> if I use the server image what do I have to do to get it to be a desktop ?
[10:58] <mneptok> webharvey2002: then boot off the Windows install CD and do it
[10:58] <Madpilot> dcnstrct, well, they should be... the ones I've got are, and the Ubuntu ISO fits nicely
[10:58] <SGL> Is installing programs in Ubuntu and Xubuntu the same???
[10:58] <Madpilot> dcnstrct, you'd just do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, that should get you everything
[10:58] <dcnstrct> Madpilot, these are compUSA brand, they probably can't count.
[10:59] <bla|patrick> may someone help me modifying LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[10:59] <dcnstrct> excellent, thanks for the help guys
[10:59] <bla|patrick> i dont get it
[10:59] <Madpilot> dcnstrct, mine are Maxwell, guess they can count... ;)
[10:59] <bla|patrick> i cant even find a tutorial how to apply those new libraries
[10:59] <webharvey2002> mneptoK. a thx, i try it, bye
[10:59] <bla|patrick> it still demands old ones :|
[10:59] <mneptok> omg. bla|patrick!
[10:59] <webharvey2002> cul8r
[10:59] <Madpilot> bla|patrick, what're you trying to do, exactly?
[10:59] <bla|patrick> its all about swt gtk libraires
[11:00] <bla|patrick> i installed azureus and it asks eacht stat installing version 3232
[11:00] <nyriador> mneptok - will do. now, i took a screenshot of the error message the terminal gave me while i was trying to get easyubuntu to run. it says at some point "dependency problem prevent config of redhat-cluster-suite"and something about "clvm not configured yet" - is that a problem? i'm just concerned this issue will re-appear at some point, with something more significant than easyubuntu.
[11:00] <bla|patrick> but java still only finds 3139
[11:00] <bla|patrick> and azurues updater fails to update that library path
[11:01] <bla|patrick> i have 3232 manually placed to where the old files are
[11:01] <bla|patrick> same folder
[11:01] <garryF> Strange, that redhat should even be there. Redhat <> Debian distro far as I know.
[11:01] <bla|patrick>  /usr/share/jni
[11:01] <nyriador> also something about "clvm could not connect to cluster manager"
[11:01] <nyriador> garryF: I know. that's what i thought. i'm really confused.
[11:01] <nyriador> garryF: kinda screwed me up.
[11:01] <garryF> as I would be confused as well.
[11:02] <mneptok> nyriador: just ignore what those horrendous scripts tell you. don't worry about problems you don't have. ;)
[11:02] <linux_user400354> why cant i resize my logical volumes using gparted?
[11:02] <f4rbr0r^kAll3> ubuntu!
[11:02] <tristan_> Is the USB TV tuner key made by Toshiba is compatible with Linux?
[11:02] <garryF> Possibly becaue logical volumes are not the same as the actual partitions?
[11:03] <garryF> !lvm
[11:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about lvm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:03] <nyriador> mneptok: well, then i'm off to see if i can install those codecs manually. i'll be back later - probably... anyways, thanks for the help guys.
[11:03] <mneptok> nyriador: gstreamer-plugins-ugly is what you want
[11:03] <linux_user400354> ubotu is stupid
[11:04] <garryF> Maybe it had a lot of obsolete info removed.
[11:05] <linux_user400354> maybe i have to use qtparted and use knoppix instead of ubuntu live cd
[11:05] <bla|patrick> mneptok: u dont have an idea what to do, do you? :(
[11:05] <bla|patrick> none of that documentations describe how to modify that library
[11:05] <bla|patrick> all they say is that i have to do it
[11:05] <bla|patrick> to solve this issue :|
[11:05] <garryF> Might work. >ots of folks have been able to fix stuff via knoppix stuff.
[11:08] <roger21> hi
[11:08] <mpathy> made a bounty out of my problem ;) https://launchpad.net/bounties/compilation-options-checker 1. why is it get outputted without any line wrap? thats ugly 2. would have been "specifications" the better place for that?
[11:08] <sanna_> : I
[11:08] <mneptok> bla|patrick: how did you install the lib?
[11:09] <roger21> i tried to install lilo over grub but all i got at boot is "Loading Linux................................................................."
[11:09] <mneptok> bla|patrick: did you pull the current version out of Synaptic?
[11:09] <roger21> and nothing
[11:09] <nyriador> mneptok - i just tried installing the gstreamer libraries, and here is the message i got : E: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[11:09] <nyriador> E: redhat-cluster-suite: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[11:09] <nyriador> E: system-config-cluster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[11:09] <roger21> someone has an idea ?
[11:09] <Scissor> Hallo all
[11:09] <nyriador> what gives?
[11:09] <mneptok> nyriador: sounds like that script hosed your repos
[11:09] <nyriador> dammit. reinstall?
[11:10] <bla|patrick> ya that version is outdated
[11:10] <KenSentMe> !lilo
[11:10] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[11:10] <bla|patrick> and i still have not found a repo that may solve this problem
[11:10] <mneptok> nyriador: look in /etc/apt and see what you have relating to sources.list
[11:10] <bla|patrick> mneptok: first i tried to let azurues do it
[11:10] <f4rbr0r^kAll3> :|
[11:10] <mneptok> bla|patrick: that version works fine on all the machines i have
[11:10] <bla|patrick> then i searched via find for the old libs
[11:10] <bla|patrick> mneptok: its just that azureus menus dont work
[11:11] <Scissor> I have a problem! I installed a postfix, and now I have problem with inet_interface!
[11:11] <bla|patrick> they actually work, but not all of em
[11:11] <bla|patrick> buttons dont show function an this stupid complaining each start is annoying too
[11:11] <phlexy> hey, does anyone know why I can't connect to the network/internet on this laptop (I just installed dapper on it). It has a card that's detatchable, but I plug it in - ubuntu detects it in device manager but clearly it doesn't know what to do with it.
[11:11] <mneptok> bla|patrick: i use the GTK/SWT libs provided by apt, and i seem to have no issues with Azureus
[11:11] <phlexy> I tried turning off dhcp and filling in ip's manually, but that didn't fix it either o_O
[11:11] <bla|patrick> azureus <IP_ADDRESS>?
[11:12] <mneptok> phlexy: not every 802.11x chipset is supported by Linux. which do you have?
[11:12] <phlexy> it'll tell me on the back of the card mneptok?
[11:12] <mneptok> bla|patrick: dunno, i don;t have Azureus installed here at the office. i can check when i get home in 3 hours or so.
[11:12] <phlexy> how do I find out :P
[11:12] <ShaunES> Question: How do I get a verbose or step by step setup for a livecd?
[11:12] <ShaunES> I've got Alternative 6.06.
[11:12] <mneptok> phlexy: probably not. you'd have to check the manufacturer's site.
[11:13] <bla|patrick> well i had problems with the buttons of that sliding notifiy on the down right
[11:13] <bla|patrick> i had to install the latest beta
[11:13] <bla|patrick> and then it started to complain about outdated libs
[11:13] <sanna_> :l
[11:13] <bla|patrick> libs that are needed for working properly
[11:13] <bla|patrick> hi sanna_ :)
[11:14] <SGL> Where can I get access to more packages?
[11:14] <SGL> If I try apt-get install mysql-server my computer says he can't find it :(
[11:14] <SGL> I uncommented everything in sources.list
[11:14] <SGL> Can anyone help with that?
[11:14] <gharz> guys, been getting error fetching file during system update... here's the result if i typed sudo apt-get update => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18341
[11:15] <gharz> please help
[11:15] <nyriador> mneptok: things look ok in etc\apt
[11:15] <mneptok> SGL: AFAIK, mysql-server is in Main, and should not require additional repos
[11:15] <Subhuman> SGL, its in main, try a "sudo apt-get update"
[11:15] <SGL> ok
[11:16] <GreySim> Hello. Question time! Anyone know the "proper" way to change the hostname? I always thought it was editing /etc/hosts, but apparently I was incredibly wrong, and I don't wanna just blindly tinker around with stuff and break sudo again. >.<
[11:16] <phlexy> mneptok: here's the site with the details, I don't think it tells me what I want to know though :P http://www.intel.com/support/network/xc/adapter/cce10100/sb/cs-008616.htm
[11:16] <SGL> updating now
[11:16] <Subhuman> GreySim, system-admin-networking
[11:16] <CiRu5> anyone have any experience with promise raid controllers?
[11:16] <f4rbr0r^kAll3> sun-j2se5.0-jre-binary_<IP_ADDRESS>+debian-1.unofficial.sarge.1_i386.deb <-- is that file available anywhere on internet? ;P
[11:16] <GreySim> Subhuman: Thanks!
[11:17] <Subhuman> GreySim, then go to the general tab.
[11:17] <spydr> is there an equivalent method via the CLI to change the hostname?
[11:18] <mneptok> phlexy: which of those 4 models do you have?
[11:18] <Flannel> !tell spydr about hostname
[11:18] <SGL> after the update I still get: "couldn't find package mysql-server"
[11:18] <mneptok> spydr: edit /etc/hosts
[11:18] <GreySim> Thank you kindly, and apparently I have to re-login.
[11:18] <SGL> ARGH
[11:18] <GreySim> mneptok: Nope!
[11:19] <SGL> I MADE A TYPE
[11:19] <SGL> TYPO
[11:19] <SGL> Thanks :P
[11:19] <cpk2> !mysql-server
[11:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about mysql-server - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:19] <GreySim> mneptok: That ends up breaking 'sudo' among other things. You start getting errors about gethostbyname() or some such.
[11:19] <KenSentMe> !info mysql-server
[11:19] <ubotu> mysql-server: mysql database server (current version). In repository main, is optional. Version 5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 35 kB, installed size 64 kB
[11:19] <spydr> ta
[11:19] <phlexy> mneptok: oh
[11:19] <phlexy> mneptok: Xircom RealPort Ethernet 10/100 Adapter
[11:20] <nyriador> anyway. i'm going to bed. thanks for the help - prob will be back later.
[11:20] <ardchoille> I changed window managers from Metacity to openbox in gnome and am configuring my obmenu. What is the actual command that is used when I click on System -> Quit -> Logout? I need to add this command to my new menu
[11:21] <mixandgo> hello, where can I find a list with all the apps in the amd64 repo ?
[11:21] <mneptok> phlexy: i would start looking through Google for "re-100 linux xircom"
[11:21] <Flannel> mixandgo: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:25] <shinobi2> how do i install midnight commander (mc)?
[11:25] <ShaunES> Question: I have ubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc. How do I set up ANY sort of server to get data off the hard drive without destroying it.
[11:25] <ardchoille> !info mc
[11:25] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[11:25] <mixandgo> Flannel, thanks, but I would like to know if a package is available for amd64
[11:25] <Flannel> mixandgo: right, packages.ubuntu.com
[11:25] <mixandgo> Flannel, that search is not arch specific
[11:26] <ardchoille> shinobi2: enable universe, then sudo apt-get install mc
[11:26] <mixandgo> you can only search for files in packages based on arch
[11:26] <mneptok> mixandgo: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/amd64
[11:26] <Flannel> mixandgo: once youre AT the package, at the bottom, it lists archs
[11:26] <Flannel> mixandgo: search for the package, on the packages page, it'll tell you the arches
[11:26] <shinobi2> ardchoille: thx
[11:27] <ardchoille> shinobi2: You're welcome :)
[11:27] <shinobi2> if 'iwconfig' did not show a wlan0 interface, does that mean my card wireless card is not detected?
[11:28] <ShaunES> Question: I have ubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc. How do I set up ANY sort of server to get data off the hard drive without destroying it. I also have ubuntu-6.06-desktop-powerpc...
[11:28] <mixandgo> Flannel, is dapper an older release or something ? cause some of the packages I am searching are a bit old
[11:28] <mneptok> ShaunES: that's not very clear? what OS is installed *now*?
[11:28] <ShaunES> mneptok, a broken ass OS X.
[11:29] <mneptok> ShaunES: and you want to read HFS+ from a LiveCD? good luck.
[11:29] <ShaunES> mneptok, I can read it with both these.
[11:29] <Flannel> mixandgo: dapper is the current stable release.  versions are frozen a month or so before the release itself.  So they won't be cutting edge, but shouldn't be too old either.  which package?  version numbers are sometimes odd to read anyway.
[11:29] <mneptok> ShaunES: have you run Disk Utility from the OSX install CD/DVD?
[11:30] <mixandgo> Flannel, eclipse-sdk ! I got 3.2 on gentoo
[11:30] <mixandgo> Flannel, on ubuntu I see there is 3.1
[11:30] <ShaunES> mneptok, it keeps saying it has lost connection with the daemon.
[11:30] <bla|patrick> does someone know smth about a repo that host libswt3.2?
[11:31] <cpk2> !libswt3.2
[11:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about libswt3.2 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:31] <Flannel> mixandgo: when did 3.2 get released?
[11:31] <mneptok> ShaunES: what do you have to copy the files onto? a CD? a remote machine? USB stick?
[11:31] <cpk2> !swt
[11:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about swt - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:31] <cpk2> !libswt
[11:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about libswt - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:31] <mixandgo> Flannel, have no ideea
[11:31] <Skorm> idea
[11:31] <ShaunES> mneptok, uhm, a remote machine is best.
[11:32] <Skorm> !sway
[11:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about sway - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:32] <Sakunix> hey all a friend of mine just bought me his pc and asked me to please get his webcam working.. well first thing I did was format it and install Ubuntu.. now onto his problem.. anyone know how to get a webcam working with ubuntu?
[11:32] <mixandgo> Flannel, also gentoo lists an eclipse-emf-bin package that I would need on amd64 and I can't see it on that ubuntu list
[11:32] <sn00p> How do I uninstall gnome in ubuntu?
[11:32] <mneptok> ShaunES: so install an OpenSSH server on that remote machine and scp the files over
[11:32] <Skorm> !swat
[11:32] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:32] <scheuri> hi all
[11:32] <bla|patrick> mixandgo: dont know... the latest version 3232 is demanded by the latest azureus cvs
[11:32] <bla|patrick> and i dont get it how to install it :|
[11:32] <Skorm> !swat > skorm
[11:32] <cpk2> Sakunix: i was browsing the lower end of the alphabet in adept and remember seeing something for web cams
[11:32] <scheuri> was anyone able to get a network printer working (I have a HP Laserjet 2100 TN over networt) or is cups just...you know...f**** up?
[11:32] <mneptok> bla|patrick: use the stable Azureus and install SWT via Synaptic
[11:33] <ShaunES> mneptok, there's an ssh server on the machine?
[11:33] <bla|patrick> mneptok: i cant use that version
[11:33] <mp3guy> hey, theres a problem with youtube videos, the flash applet they use must have been updated, but the volume bar doesn't show properly and the font has changed, and clicking the volume bar mutes the volume and you can't pull it up, anyone any insight into this?
[11:33] <bla|patrick> because all interfaces are broken
[11:33] <bla|patrick> no button works
[11:33] <cpk2> mneptok: stable azureus doesnt work for ubuntu
[11:33] <bla|patrick> e.g. that notifier that appears if smth is wrong
[11:33] <bla|patrick> on the down right
[11:33] <mneptok> bla|patrick: "Works For Me"(tm)
[11:39] <bla|patrick> well... i am not onl yperson that suffers from that bug
[11:39] <bla|patrick> *the *only
[11:39] <mneptok> cpk2: like i said, i have the stable version running just fine under 6.06AMD64 at home
[11:39] <Skorm>   bla|patrick  *person
[11:39] <bla|patrick> :D
[11:39] <Flannel> mixandgo: 3.2 was released june8, after Dapper.
[11:39] <bla|patrick> well... however... the latest beta made the menus clickable again
[11:39] <Skorm> bla|patrick: my english would be worse than yours
[11:39] <GreySim> ShaunES, if you don't want to install anything, you could go into System -> Administration -> Shared Folders and set up a Samba share...
[11:39] <bla|patrick> and that notifyslider was hiding on hidebutton again
[11:39] <mixandgo> Flannel, meaning ? why is it not in the packages list ?
[11:39] <bla|patrick> Skorm: english isnt my native language either
[11:39] <OK8> hm. What do I have to do to get xvids to work?
[11:39] <cli> spydr: yes /etc/hosts file holds your host name
[11:39] <ShaunES> GreySim, I can't get into the gui. If I use the normal install, it freezes on a brown screen.
[11:39] <Skorm> bla|patrick: my isn't your you'll still beat me
[11:39] <bla|patrick> dont know... dont think so :)
[11:39] <sn00p> How do I uninstall gnome in ubuntu?
[11:39] <Flannel> !tell mixandgo about release
[11:39] <Kira> What CD size do I need to burn Ubuntu 6.06 desktop?
[11:39] <Kira> 700 MB?
[11:39] <ShaunES> Yeah/.
[11:39] <mixandgo> Flannel, so you have to wait 6 months for a package to install a package ? can't you just update your package list ?
[11:39] <nvez> yep.
[11:39] <Kira> dang
[11:39] <Flannel> mixandgo: meaning, since it wasn't released before March, it wouldn't have been in Dapper.  You'll have to wait for edgy to get it from the repositories.
[11:39] <Kira> I only have 650 MB ones.
[11:39] <mwe> sn00p: sudo apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common
[11:39] <KenSentMe> Is it possible to run firefox with the userrights of root but with the profile of the main user?
[11:39] <nvez> Kira, umm, you could try netboot install images?
[11:39] <nvez> :)
[11:39] <Flannel> mixandgo: versions of all packages are frozen per each release. (except bugfixes/security updates)
[11:39] <mneptok> Flannel: not necessarily. the new version may well be added to dapper's repos.
[11:39] <bla|patrick> KenSentMe: go to terminal
[11:39] <bla|patrick> sudo firefox :)
[11:39] <sn00p> mwe, is it safe?
[11:39] <bla|patrick> oh
[11:39] <mwe> sn00p: then remove the rest from synaptic if anything is left
[11:39] <KenSentMe> bla|patrick: but then it runs with the root profile
[11:39] <bla|patrick> the profile.. should read to the end before posting
[11:39] <sn00p> mwe, synaptic is part of gnome?
[11:39] <roniez> Has anybody here played around with JAIL in kbuntu/ubuntu?
[11:39] <roniez> from http://www.jmcresearch.com/projects/jail/
[11:39] <bla|patrick> cant u choose in about config the path to the profile?
[11:39] <Flannel> Kira: you can also download the server ISO, then get the desktop that way
[11:39] <mwe> sn00p: not sure. use aptitude if so
[11:39] <mwe> sn00p: I have synaptic but not gnome
[11:39] <Flannel> mixandgo: it's not a "wait six months" thing, it's a deadline thing.  things that aren't released before X date most likely don't get put in this release (there are exceptions)
[11:39] <Flannel> sn00p: no, synaptic is just a program
[11:39] <sn00p> mwe, how do I remove it w hen i'm still in gnome?
[11:39] <mwe> sn00p: you shouldn't do that
[11:39] <sn00p> mwe, well how do I remove it outside of gnome?
[11:39] <mwe> sn00p: do you intend not to use X windows anymore?
[11:39] <mwe> sn00p: I told you
[11:39] <mwe> sn00p: sudo apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common
[11:39] <sn00p> mwe, no I will use X and KDE
[11:39] <mixandgo> Flannel, I think I am gonna go ahead and give ubuntu a try :D tho I have a happy gentoo !
[11:39] <sn00p> mwe, thats what i'm doing
[11:39] <sn00p> mwe, but i'm inside gnome
[11:39] <mwe> sn00p: then remove the rest from aptitude if anything is left
[11:40] <mwe> sn00p: bad idea
[11:40] <mixandgo> Flannel, I miss some packages on gentoo amd64
[11:40] <bla|patrick> but doesnt synaptic still needs gnome libraries?
[11:40] <mixandgo> Flannel, hope I can find them on ubuntu !
[11:40] <Flannel> mixandgo: you can always compile them.
[11:40] <mwe> sn00p: are you not going to use something else instead of gnome?
[11:40] <mixandgo> Flannel, by the way, does flash plugin work on ubuntu ?
[11:40] <mixandgo> Flannel, amd64 I mean
[11:40] <sn00p> mwe, yes kde
[11:40] <mwe> sn00p: then do it from kde instead
[11:40] <Flannel> mixandgo: no idea.  I don't even have a GUI.
[11:40] <shinobi2> i have my wireless card turn off during installation,  how can run an installation for the wireless card?
[11:41] <sn00p> well I may have to reinstall ubuntu
[11:41] <mixandgo> Flannel, so why are you using ubuntu then :D
[11:41] <mwe> sn00p: why would that be?
[11:41] <bla|patrick> btw that swt 3.2 stable can be found here: http://www.eclipse.org/swt/
[11:41] <bla|patrick> but i have no idea what i shall do with those files :|
[11:41] <shinobi2> i didn't know my card was turned off
[11:42] <sn00p> lol
[11:42] <sn00p> kde3 is huge
[11:42] <sn00p> half a gig
[11:42] <mwe> sn00p: you don't need all the krap
[11:42] <mwe> sn00p: just get kdebase for starters
[11:43] <sn00p> oh
[11:43] <sn00p> well it dont matter i'm on cable
[11:43] <mwe> sn00p: kubuntu-desktop install _alot_ of krap
[11:43] <mneptok> must ... be ... desktop ... agnostic ...
[11:48] <javiolo> is there any wifi intrusion detector
[11:48] <KenSentMe> bla|patrick: no, in about:config you can't choose a profile. With firefox -ProfileManager you can select a profile, but that's only the profile of the user you are running, so with sudo it's root
[11:49] <someothernick> anyone use waste? or know where there is a how to on installing it for Ubuntu
[11:49] <javiolo> !waste
[11:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about waste - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:49] <bla|patrick> KenSentMe: sorry then i have no idea...
[11:49] <bla|patrick> not using FF that much
[11:50] <Alex0r> AHHHH MY PC IS BEING SUB7ED
[11:50] <Xorlev> http://bash.org/?665807 <-- THIS COULD BE YOU!
[11:50] <Xorlev> Sub7'd? That's so 2000.
[11:50] <Xorlev> And for Windows no less.
[11:50] <Subhuman> sub7 is still about
[11:50] <Alex0r> I'm on windows, because i broke my ubuntu
[11:50] <Subhuman> @??
[11:51] <Alex0r> I don't even know how I got it, but damn, my pc is messed up now
[11:51] <Xorlev> I used sub7 when I was thirteen. I'm in college now.
[11:51] <mneptok> only a Windows user would refer to stuff as "My _____"
[11:51] <Xorlev> Sub7 is a trojan, and only someone connecting to it would do the damage.
[11:51] <KenSentMe> bla|patrick: well i only want to remove some search engines, but the default ones can't be deleted and i think that's because they're not installed by a user but by default
[11:51] <KenSentMe> bla|patrick: the searchenginehack doesn't work here
[11:51] <Xorlev> Alex0r FAILS!
[11:51] <Alex0r> I got it through some myg0t people on cs: source
[11:52] <Xorlev> You FAIL!
[11:52] <Alex0r> I fails!
[11:52] <Gasolin_> [ HELP]  $depmod -a  command shows Could not open directory /lib/module/2.6.15-23-386.
[11:52] <Xorlev> Get out a rope or razor, and remember, down the road not across.
[11:52] <Gasolin_> (I've only 2.6.15-25-386 directory).
[11:52] <mneptok> "I just gave you Sub7. Want fries with that?"
[11:52] <randomized> hi all
[11:53] <amadeo1988> hey.. question, when i click on places and them my computer i want my hdd's to pop up.. only they don't and they used too, how do i re-add them
[11:53] <someothernick> hello randomized
[11:53] <mwe> Gasolin_: huh? even sudo depmod -a?
[11:53] <bla|patrick> KenSentMe: well... i am a opera user... i have no idea about that
[11:54] <mwe> Gasolin_: it sounds like you deleted something you shouldn't have
[11:55] <Gasolin_> mmm..... where can I point lib.25 instead .23 ?
[11:55] <mwe> Gasolin_: you can't. your kernel needs modules that match it's version. what does uname -r say?
[11:56] <Gasolin_> 2.6.15-23-386........
[11:57] <Gasolin_> actually I'm in #chroot mode through desktop cd
[11:57] <b14ck> what was the package that unpacked *.rar?
[11:57] <mwe> Gasolin_: that wont work I think. where are you chrooted to?
[11:57] <hyperstream> Alex0r, lawl. i ride with japsclan, we 'pwn' myg0at :)
[11:57] <Gasolin_> I've 2 kernel version installed on hard drive(23, 25)
[11:57] <mwe> Gasolin_: what are you trying to do?
[11:58] <Alex0r> heh
[11:58] <Alex0r> dont kill my pc
[11:58] <Alex0r> please
[11:58] <Alex0r> its already borked
[11:58] <hyperstream> huh?
[11:58] <mwe> Gasolin_: you boot a live cd and try to depmod -a your installed linux system?
[11:58] <Gasolin_> sudo chroot mnt/sda1
[11:58] <mwe> Gasolin_: that wont work
[11:58] <void^> use depmod 2.6.15-25-386
[11:58] <mwe> Gasolin_: you cannot depmod from a different kernel
[11:58] <void^> you can, just have to specify the version
[11:58] <b14ck> how can i unpack *.rar?
[11:59] <Gasolin_> I boot a live cd , mount sda1 , and chroot sda1
[11:59] <void^> b14ck: with unrar
[11:59] <noiesmo> b14ck, install rar then do rar -e file.rar think its in restricted ie universe or multiverse repo
[12:00] <b14ck> void^: ty
[12:00] <b14ck> noiesmo: thanx
[12:00] <mwe> Gasolin_: I guess you can depmod a different kernel afterall then, if you specify the version
[12:00] <oggis> mmhrpf
[12:02] <gypsymauro> hello
[12:02] <Gasolin_> I do the depmod version and it work, now my recovery mode is passed........but in prompt I can't usemy usb mouse/kbd(that's why I need live CD now)
[12:03] <mwe> Gasolin_: well maybe the modules are not loaded
[12:04] <mwe> Gasolin_: you need the usb modules to load
[12:04] <gypsymauro> I'm trying to install vserver on dapper but I've a lot of problems, I tried to install the patch shiped with dapper but the apply fails, then I downloaded the sources of kernel of ubuntu and try to apply vserver patch but fails again, last try I downloaded the already done vserver kernel @ http://ubuntu.uni-klu.ac.at/ubuntu.uniklu but it freezes after gdm login (normal kernel works)
[12:04] <gypsymauro> any hint?
[12:04] <redblades> Where does Ubuntu keep it's logs?
[12:04] <noiesmo> /var/log
[12:04] <redblades> for Apache specifically
[12:04] <redblades> thqanks
[12:05] <florian> hi, i want to create a directory for every line in a file. How can I do that?
[12:05] <Gasolin_> yes, I've edit /etc/modules to load
[12:05] <Gasolin_> 1p
[12:05] <Gasolin_> uhci-hcd
[12:05] <Gasolin_> ohci-hcd
[12:05] <Gasolin_> mousedev
[12:05] <Gasolin_> usbmouse
[12:05] <Gasolin_> usbkbd
[12:05] <Gasolin_> psmouse
[12:05] <mwe> Gasolin_: you need to do it in the broken system
[12:05] <mwe> Gasolin_: this just list's what's loaded on the live cd
[12:06] <ardchoille> florian: I think you'd be better off using sed in a bash script for that
[12:06] <poje> florian: writing a shell script is probably the easiest way
[12:06] <Gasolin_> its done after
[12:06] <Gasolin_>  #sudo chroot /mnt/sda1, so I think this file is in the broken system
[12:07] <[Jonne] > Hi, i'm running Dapper, and when I last did apt-get upgrade, apt returned to me that 4 packages will be kept back. they're basicly the kernel packages (for 387, and K7)
[12:07] <[Jonne] > is that normal?
[12:07] <mwe> florian: for i in <filename>; do mkdir $i; done
[12:07] <[Jonne] > *386, obviously
[12:07] <mwe> florian: that might work
[12:07] <noiesmo> [Jonne] , yes
[12:07] <mwe> Gasolin_: it's not
[12:07] <ardchoille> [Jonne] : Yes, that is normal. You can install those held back packages with: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:07] <mwe> Gasolin_: you need to boot the broken system
[12:08] <[Jonne] > ah, ok
[12:08] <noiesmo> [Jonne] , you can do a apt-get dist-upgrade and it will upgrade kernel etc but if alls good just do apt-get upgrade
[12:08] <[Jonne] > thanks
[12:08] <florian> thx all, I'll try that
[12:08] <[Jonne] > it just didn't seem obvious to me
[12:10] <Gasolin_> mwe: if I boot the broken system directly, usb kbd/mouse will not be available. So I'm not sure what you mean?
[12:10] <mwe> Gasolin_: I was thinking of using a different keyboard. if you don't have one make sure those module names are mentioned in /etc/modules
[12:11] <mwe> bbl
[12:11] <ShaunES> jesus christ this is goddamn useless.
[12:11] <ShaunES> I just want to fucking get data off this hard drive, and it can't even do that.
[12:12] <cpk2> ShaunES: is it dying?
[12:12] <Flannel> !language
[12:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:12] <ShaunES> Thank you for your help Flannel! Oh wait.
[12:12] <SGL> what is the "ipconfig" for linux?
[12:12] <ShaunES> ifconfig
[12:12] <Gasolin_> mwe: I'm using Dell 2.7G, it doesn't have PS/2 port but USB only, I'm using a USB-to-PS/2(2 port) adapter to link my kbd/mouse
[12:12] <SGL> thanks!
[12:13] <Flannel> ShaunES: now now, no need to lose all sense of maturity.  Just because I can't help you.
[12:13] <ShaunES> cpk2, using ubuntu-6.06-desktop-powerpc it freezes when starting the sound daemon. Can't stop that.
[12:14] <wahjava> hi channel
[12:14] <Gasolin_> mwe: I can use kbd in GRUB or Bios, but not not work in Ubuntu GUI
[12:15] <ShaunES> I have ubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc, but I can't do anything with it.
[12:15] <wahjava> USB disk doesn't appear in Konqueror after attaching
[12:15] <wahjava> I'm on Kubuntu 6.06 (AMD64)
[12:15] <wahjava> while I'm able to mount it from command line
[12:16] <ShaunES> I just want to get access to my file system, and put it on a usb key.
[12:18] <mneptok> ShaunES: you want the desktop cd, not the alternate
[12:18] <alyn3d> hello there.... I have a problem with Adept....
[12:18] <ShaunES> mneptok, I've got that here too, and was told I needed alternate yesterday.
[12:19] <ShaunES> It keeps freezing on the brown screen, apparently I need to move "esd" before it tries to use it.
[12:19] <jonttu87> is there some 4 gb file size limit in NFS?
[12:20] <jonttu87> i can't transfer big files over nfs
[12:20] <ShaunES> Yeah.
[12:20] <jonttu87> :(
[12:20] <bla|patrick> bye ... its gonna be hot here... about 34C
[12:20] <jonttu87> what should i use then?
[12:20] <jonttu87> sshfs?
[12:20] <jonttu87> samba?
[12:20] <bla|patrick> be back this evening
[12:21] <alyn3d> i try to remove or add any package with Adept, and it gives me the "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. " error. Any ideas? when I try to use apt-get from the command line, it says that "package metamonitor is in a state of damage"... or something like this..... what can I do ?
[12:22] <Lynoure> jonttu87: I don't know whether there is a limit.. .I try to avoid nfs when I can. What  to use depends on what kind of use you are thinking about.
[12:22] <Veer> k
[12:22] <ShaunES> mneptok, so using desktop, how do I stop it from trying to access esd?
[12:22] <void^> nfs version 3 can handle files larger than 4gb
[12:23] <rv> join #winehq
[12:23] <neenaoffline> alyn3d: try #ubuntu-motu
[12:24] <mneptok> ShaunES: why is a sound subsystem a problem?
[12:24] <alyn3d> neenaoffline, and if I use Kubuntu ?
[12:24] <alyn3d> what channel should I try ?
[12:24] <ShaunES> mneptok, no idea, but that's apprently the problem.
[12:25] <ShaunES> It freezes at a consistent spot every time, and it's consistent with what I've read about it.
[12:26] <alyn3d> oki, I think I found it, its #kubuntu
[12:27] <jonttu87> Lynoure I'm using nfs now for accessing my server.. might sshfs be a better idea?
[12:27] <mneptok> ShaunES: what kind of Mac?
[12:27] <ShaunES> mneptok, iMac G5 first gen (no iSight)
[12:28] <roger21> i succed in booting with lilo but vga=792 make no readable display somebody knows why ?
[12:28] <mneptok> ShaunES: weird, i know people using 6.06 with the iMac G5r1
[12:28] <Lynoure> jonttu87: this is a tad old (two years) but could be relevant for you: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/arch-storage/part2/section-121.html
[12:28] <roger21> (vga=792 is th right setting for my display btw)
[12:29] <Lynoure> jonttu87: I meant whether you routinely download and upload large files or whether it's just an occasionaly need.
[12:29] <jonttu87> it's a routine
[12:29] <ardchoille> roger21: Are you sure vga=792 is correct? I use vga=791 and it looks nice at that res
[12:30] <roger21> actually vga=791 don't work either
[12:30] <roger21> with lilo
[12:30] <ardchoille> roger21: Ok, I am guessing lilo settings are different than grub
[12:30] <ShaunES> mneptok, well... I dunno. I can boot into rescue mode, and it bitches when I select any of the options, but I can execute commands in that built in mini-shell thing
[12:31] <Enverex> hmm, I just plugged in one of my SATA drives but it's not being assigned a /dev/sdx ...
[12:31] <roger21> ardchoille, well it is not the case for vga
[12:32] <mneptok> ShaunES: so then use that to scp files to a remote machine running an ssh server
[12:33] <ShaunES> mneptok, I don't know how, it's the shell off the install thing. It doesn't even have ping.
[12:33] <roger21> perhaps
[12:33] <Lynoure> jonttu87: but, yeah, sshfs could do it for you, worth trying, will not be worse than nfs at least (IMO)
[12:35] <l33t> yo
[12:35] <Enverex> hmm, I just plugged in one of my SATA drives but it's not being assigned a /dev/sdx ... any ideas why not? It shows up in dmesg as [17186719.264000]  nv_sata: Secondary device added but doesn't do anything about it
[12:36] <mwe> Enverex: you probably need to load a kernel module then. I wouldn't know the name though
[12:36] <Enverex> hmmm, the weird thing is it worked the other day
[12:36] <ardchoille> I am using openbox as my window manager because it has a much nicer and configurable desktop menu. Here's a screenshot: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6126/openboxso2.png . I wrote a little tutorial on how to set this up if anyone is interested: http://natsci.eckerd.edu/~bordelsr/gnomehelp/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Gnome212.WindowManager
[12:36] <mwe> Enverex: I see
[12:37] <mwe> Enverex: what changed?
[12:38] <Enverex> mwe, erm, there was a newer kernel brought out (.25, the ubuntu one I mean)
[12:38] <mwe> ardchoille: put it on wiki.ubuntu.com maybe?
[12:38] <mwe> Enverex: hmm
[12:38] <ardchoille> mwe: That is an excellent idea, I'll do that. Thank you :)
[12:39] <mwe> Enverex: I'd make sure the right modules are loaded
[12:39] <mwe> Enverex: I don't know what would cause to autoload in the old kernel and not the new though, unless it's missing in the new kernel for some reason
[12:39] <darkowl> Hello
[12:40] <darkowl> I have a problem with playing wmv files in totem
[12:40] <darkowl> Can anyone help ?
[12:40] <patrick_king> does any one know to up samba to be a domain controller and allow xp to use roming profiles
[12:40] <mwe> darkowl: have you installed w32codes?
[12:40] <ardchoille> darkowl: What is the problem?
[12:40] <darkowl> mwe: yes...
[12:40] <mwe> darkowl: I don't know then
[12:41] <darkowl> ardchoille: i installed all codecs and i can play all files except wmv
[12:41] <Matthai> hi, is there any list of default ports for apllications like rdesktop, xmule, etc... I want to know which ports to open
[12:41] <darkowl> it plays for two seconds and exit
[12:42] <mwe> darkowl: I think the codecs don't work with some wmv 9 files
[12:42] <ardchoille> darkowl: I have found that with some wmv files, some of them play fine, some play and quit before they are supposed to, and others won't play at all. Blame Microsoft.
[12:42] <darkowl> mwe, ardchoille : is there any fix for that ? Other program maybe ?
[12:42] <jonttu87> Lynoure: tried to mount sshfs now, im getting "fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied"
[12:42] <mwe> it's a known issue
[12:42] <jonttu87> what actually IS fusermount? :D
[12:42] <mwe> darkowl: no not that I know of
[12:42] <ardchoille> darkowl: Not that I know of :(
[12:43] <mwe> darkowl: maybe if you run windows media player in wine
[12:43] <mwe> darkowl: I think it uses it's own codecs
[12:43] <darkowl> mwe, ardchoille : OK...tnx...Ill find some converter...
[12:44] <patrick_king> can anyone give me an  ip of    a dns server
[12:44] <mwe> darkowl: it will probably degrade the quality though
[12:44] <Lynoure> jonttu87: If oyu are happy with nfs, and if you just occasionally need to get a 4G things from there, no sense moving away from it just for that... That's why I asked.
[12:44] <Lynoure> jonttu87: Haven't ran into that myself, google wasn't useful?
[12:44] <amarokker> Does anyone know why opera is so slow on dapper?
 Don't use the lords name in vain.
[12:44] <mwe> amarokker: it's plenty fast here
[12:45] <ShaunES> I'm already going to hell, whatcha gonna do buddy?
[12:45] <amarokker> i thought first, it could've been a problem with 9.02beta- so i switched back to static version - and its still slow
[12:45] <mwe> amarokker: do you mean the start up time or in general?
[12:46] <Lynoure> jonttu87: do you have fuse in your kernel?
[12:46] <amarokker> mwe: not really- the rendering of pages mostly...if I click open a link in a new tab- it might take ages to load- yeah, i have a bad habit of opening bout 20 tabs at a time- but the performance on breezy/windows have been far much better even when i'd opened more than 20 tabs.
[12:46] <gnomefreak> ShaunES: Jesus dont argue. if you want to continue an  offtopic talk move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:46] <amarokker> mwe: - yeah, start up is slow too
[12:47] <magical_trevsky> hi, could anyone tell me what bash command I would need to delete all files in a folder that were created today and contain a certain word in their filename?
[12:47] <ardchoille> mwe: Can I pm you for a second?
[12:47] <mwe> amarokker: I don't know. the start up time could be because if you run gnome it has to load the qt libs first. Like I said it works fast enough here though
[12:48] <mwe> ardchoille: ok
[12:48] <jonttu87> Lynoure i added "fuse" in /etc/modules now.. i should reboot now ?
[12:50] <amarokker> mwe: - ah, i use gnome. is it the same with fluxbox? come to think of it, i remember the performance being slightly better on kde
[12:50] <K-J158> hi
[12:51] <patrick_king> has anyone used samba as a domain controller
[12:51] <K-J158> someone can help me with amsn ? i would like to a font which can shows the arabic characters
[12:51] <K-J158> i try "lucida" but it doesn't work
[12:52] <K-J158> i've to eat.. cya
[12:52] <burzum_> hi
[12:52] <mwe> amarokker: well once the libs are loaded after the initial start up performance should be the same in gnome and kde unless you are really low on ram or sth
[12:53] <amarokker> 1gb- i'd say not much, but still decent.
[12:53] <zoidberg> hey there guys
[12:53] <redblades> Hey there you!
[12:54] <zoidberg> hey redblades
[12:54] <mwe> hi!
[12:54] <zoidberg> i have a question for u
[12:54] <amarokker> mwe: no matter- still beats firefox- when it comes to functionality- the feature i like most is the search shortcuts- i think they have it in kde too..but its not as convenient.
[12:54] <zoidberg> guys i have a question
[12:54] <zoidberg> can anyone help me out
[12:54] <amarokker> zoidberg: haha...then give it to us straight.
[12:54] <mwe> shoot
[12:54] <zoidberg> well
[12:54] <zoidberg> i just installed ubuntu badger on this g3 powerbook
[12:54] <redblades> !ask
[12:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:54] <zoidberg> it has a wireless card
[12:55] <redblades> WAIT!
[12:55] <redblades> Why not dapper?
[12:55] <zoidberg> and well opened firefox and it didnt work
[12:55] <zoidberg> so
[12:55] <redblades> Dapper has much better wireless support!
[12:55] <zoidberg> i'm now here though
[12:55] <Lynoure> jonttu87: modprobe should be enough
[12:55] <redblades> Well, update.
[12:55] <zoidberg> doesnt that mean that my cireless connection is working
[12:55] <mwe> zoidberg: why di you install the old version of ubuntu?
[12:55] <zoidberg> in a sense
[12:55] <redblades> google, breezy to dapper upgrade
[12:55] <zoidberg> i installed it coz i had it
[12:55] <Lynoure> jonttu87: Sorry, I'm at work, only looking at irc occasionally
[12:56] <zoidberg> specs on this latop are a lil old
[12:56] <redblades> zoidberg, if you now have internet access, upgrade to dapper.
[12:56] <zoidberg> reblades
[12:56] <redblades> It'll be fine
[12:56] <redblades> redblades,
[12:56] <zoidberg> u sure
[12:56] <redblades> :-D
[12:56] <redblades> yeah
[12:56] <zoidberg> but right now
[12:56] <zoidberg> me talking to u guys
[12:56] <redblades> Unless it's like something from last century.
[12:56] <zoidberg> means that i have internet access right
[12:56] <zoidberg> ?
[12:56] <redblades> Yeah
[12:56] <Subhuman> zoidberg, yes.
[12:57] <zoidberg> cool
[12:57] <kbrooks> Lets see...I have a question
[12:57] <zoidberg> i thought so
[12:57] <redblades> Unless you're on another box...
[12:57] <Subhuman> zoidberg, wat was the problem?
[12:57] <forevertheuni> hi....guys where can I find xvid package(I can't find in any repository) or w32codecs?Other thing how do I know that p.e. multiverse repository is correctly installed?I don't see any apps of it(can you give me an example for me to look?
[12:57] <dgold> is it decent internet access though?
[12:57] <zoidberg> well firefox wont open
[12:57] <Subhuman> zoidberg, was firefoxing 404'ing
[12:57] <zoidberg> yeah
[12:57] <zoidberg> DSL
[12:57] <Subhuman> firefox*
[12:57] <redblades> forevertheuni, restricted formats
[12:57] <Subhuman> !ipv6
[12:57] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[12:57] <Subhuman> zoidberg, try disabling ipv6
[12:57] <zoidberg> how
[12:57] <Subhuman> my mate on breezy couldnt use firefox
[12:57] <Subhuman> read that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[12:58] <Subhuman> oh wait...
[12:58] <Subhuman> lol
[12:58] <zoidberg> i see
[12:58] <Subhuman> ill tell you.
[12:58] <redblades> !restrictedFormats
[12:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:58] <zoidberg> well
[12:58] <forevertheuni> redblades, ah...what?sorry..new to ubuntu and apt-get
[12:58] <zoidberg> i'm going to upgrade to dapper this afternoon
[12:58] <zoidberg> that should fix it?
[12:58] <Subhuman> zoidberg, i get that firefox dont work, ill show you how to do it.
[12:58] <redblades> forevertheuni, http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[12:58] <zoidberg> ok subhuman
[12:58] <zoidberg> i'm lissening
[12:58] <redblades> oops wrong one
[12:58] <Subhuman>  sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list   .Add this line:  alias net-pf-10 off  Save the file and restart your computer
[12:58] <forevertheuni> redblades,
[12:58] <redblades> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:58] <redblades> That one
[12:58] <forevertheuni> redblades, ok
[12:59] <redblades> Go there and read
[12:59] <redblades> :-D
[12:59] <Subhuman> zoidberg,  ^
[12:59] <Subhuman> try that
[12:59] <Subhuman> and in firefox, type "about:config" , type ipv6 to filter, there should be one option, double click it, and close firefox.
[12:59] <Subhuman> into*
[01:00] <Subhuman> zoidberg, you got thaT? try both of them, restart the pc then try ff.
[01:01] <forevertheuni> for example gstreamer0.10-pitfdll I don't have that package :/
[01:02] <forevertheuni> redblades, yeps..I don't have them
[01:02] <forevertheuni> redblades, just like w32codec
[01:03] <redblades> forevertheuni, I'm sorry, what don't you have?
[01:03] <zoidberg> subhuman i'm doing it right now
[01:03] <zoidberg> soryr this laptop is a lil slow
[01:03] <forevertheuni> w32codecs package for example and xvid too
[01:04] <forevertheuni> redblades, ok w32codecs I've read how to install
[01:04] <Enverex> I just plugged in one of my SATA drives but it's not being assigned a /dev/sdx ... any ideas why not? It shows up in dmesg as [17186719.264000]  nv_sata: Secondary device added but doesn't do anything about it
[01:04] <redblades> And have you?
[01:05] <kbrooks> I need a full URL for a package.... Any hints?
[01:05] <zoidberg> hey subhuman
[01:05] <forevertheuni> oh other thing I installed multiverse and I don't have any package from it.universe is working fine
[01:06] <zoidberg> i'm going to restart my computer soon
[01:06] <zoidberg> i have one more question for u guys
[01:06] <RShadow> whats the file I need to change to stop the motd from displaying?
[01:06] <kbrooks> ask it zoidberg
[01:06] <zoidberg> since this machine is a lil old...only has 64 mb ram....is it better to run KDE (kubuntu) than Gnome
[01:06] <zoidberg> i heard KDE is lighter
[01:06] <zoidberg> ?
[01:07] <brutopia_> zoidberg: xfce might work best for you
[01:07] <zoidberg> btw is 64 mb ram on a G3 powerbook
[01:07] <Ng> zoidberg: you probably don't want either with that little ram, try xfce
[01:07] <RShadow> zoidberg, I actualy think Gnome is lighter.. your best best for that amount of ram however would be xfce or fluxbox
[01:07] <zoidberg> xfce or fluxbox
[01:07] <zoidberg> are they still decent though ...ubuntu like interface?
[01:07] <RAOF> zoidberg, try xubuntu-desktop
[01:08] <RShadow> zoidberg, personaly I prefer fluxbox as I think xfce looks doopey.. but thats just my preference
[01:08] <ardchoille> I am writing up a wiki page. Which website is the best one for explaining how to add univrse/multiverse repos?
[01:08] <zoidberg> alright guys
[01:08] <zoidberg> thanx a lot
[01:08] <zoidberg> i'll be back in a sec
[01:08] <gnomefreak> !repos
[01:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:08] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: ^^^
[01:08] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: Thank you :)
[01:08] <RShadow> nobody knows how to turn off the motd from displaying? I knew there is a config file.. but I can't remember were ubuntu keeps it
[01:09] <forevertheuni> !easysource
[01:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:09] <forevertheuni> ubotu, I've read that already
[01:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about I've read that already - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:09] <forevertheuni> oh ...a bot :d
[01:10] <netventure> rshadown:
[01:10] <netventure> rshadown: it;s in /etc/motd