[01:25] <doc_> hi there
[01:31] <nixternal> howdy
[02:05] <mhb> nixternal: did you try to test your 386 packages on a 386?
[02:05] <nixternal> I haven't had a chance to test run them, they do install though
[02:06] <mhb> nixternal: I meant on a real 386, the old Intel processor
[02:06] <nixternal> haha
[02:06] <mhb> nixternal: our naming policy is just crazy
[02:06] <nixternal> I didn't even catch that
[02:06] <nixternal> didn't I say i386?
[02:06] <nixternal> ya, I should have just said x86 :)
[02:06] <mhb> yeah, you did...
[02:07] <mhb> the first name is derived from a chip which is bound not be working with KDE4
[02:07] <nixternal> I don't think I have run linux on anything smaller than a 486dx
[02:07] <mhb> the other name (amd_64) says it's only for AMD chips, which is so untrue
[02:08] <mhb> aaanyway, nice work nixternal
[02:08] <nixternal> thank you...I am working on a major release setup now so I can start doing weekly or biweekly snapshot builds
[02:09] <nixternal> I need to build soprano so I can put it in universe
[02:09] <nixternal> same with eigen, and update qca
[02:20] <ryanakca> Feisty, in case you're wondering
[02:21] <mhb> ryanakca: Feisty? what's that? :o)
[02:24] <mhb> ryanakca: you know, we devs tend to run the stable+1 until it is released
[02:25] <ryanakca> mhb: ScottK told me to wait until the libcurl issue was fixed before upgrading :)
[02:26] <DaSkreech> ryanakca: ps auk | grep picKpoKet
[02:26] <ryanakca> DaSkreech: hehe :D
[02:29] <nixternal> you mean the week-long libcurl issue :)
[02:29] <ryanakca> nixternal: I suppose :)
[05:27] <ScottK> ryanakca: On Friday I think the last thing waiting for rebuild due to libcurl was OOO.
[06:16] <DaSkreech> So
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Just how unsupported will the KDe4 CD be?
[10:49] <marseillai> hi
[02:11] <doc_> hi there
[02:12] <Hobbsee> hiya
[02:12] <rbrunhuber> hi
[02:13] <rbrunhuber> hi Hobbsee, good to see you. I need your assistance. I really, really badly messed up my gutsy installation.
[02:13] <Hobbsee> rbrunhuber: oh dear.  what'd you do?
[02:15] <rbrunhuber> Hobbsee: Don't know how i managed it but every package manage tool except apt-get is gone.
[02:15] <Hobbsee> oh, you upgraded apt?
[02:15] <rbrunhuber> Hobbsee: They all have dependency problems: libapt-inst-libc6.5-6-1.1 but it is not installable
[02:16] <Hobbsee> yeah.  apt is screwed
[02:17] <rbrunhuber> Hobbsee: So i have just to wait and do apt-get updates + dist-upgrades?
[02:17] <Hobbsee> rbrunhuber: what happens if you try to install kubuntu-desktop?
[02:18] <Hobbsee> actually, that'll probably want to remove apt
[02:18] <rbrunhuber> Hobbsee: Spits out the following depends:
[02:18] <rbrunhuber> Depends: language-selector-qt but it is not going to be installed
[02:18] <rbrunhuber>                    Depends: software-properties-kde but it is not going to be installed
[02:18] <Hobbsee> that it?
[02:18] <Hobbsee> add language-selector-qt software-properties-kde to the list of stuff you're trying to install, then
[02:20] <rbrunhuber> Hobbsee:  language-selector-kde depends on adept. So we are at the beginning again.
[02:20] <Hobbsee> right
[02:20] <Hobbsee> okay, so you want to downgrade your version of apt*
[02:20] <Hobbsee> including libapt
[02:21] <Hobbsee> this is where we say "please make sure you can do dependancies before running gutsy" - this is why
[02:21] <Hobbsee> rbrunhuber: your aim at this point, is to install the old version of apt, so that you can install kubuntu-desktop again, and leave the newer versions of apt uninstalled
[02:22] <Hobbsee> rbrunhuber: this is why you should not hit "yes" to every dist upgrade prompt you get - you have to sanity check first
[02:22] <Hobbsee> rbrunhuber: you need to find out which version of libapt adept currently depends on, to find out which old version of apt you should install.
[02:23] <rbrunhuber> normally this is no problem to me. I resolved or avoided a lot of dependencies problems in the years with linux already. But caution is not my guest everyday :-)
[02:24] <rbrunhuber> Hobbsee: I'm serious about this. I used SuSe for a long time :-)
[02:24] <Hobbsee> okay, from my non-upgraded system, the version of libapt that works with adept is libapt-pkg-libc6.5-6-4.4
[02:24] <Hobbsee> no problem :)
[02:24] <Hobbsee> guy in #ubuntu+1 is asking the same thing
[02:24] <Hobbsee> i'm just telling you where you want to aim for, so then you can start figuring :)
[02:25] <rbrunhuber> Hobbsee: So I'm in #ubuntu+1 one already. So i'll go there so you have to tell the things only one time.
[02:25] <Hobbsee> rbrunhuber: nah, stay here, it's fine
[02:26] <Hobbsee> rbrunhuber: okay, it seems that apt* 0.7.2ubuntu3 is the fine version
[02:27] <Hobbsee> oh the other hand...i could just rebuild adept, to deal with the new apt
[02:29] <Hobbsee> oh, and aptitude.
[02:31] <rbrunhuber> Hobbsee: E: Version '0.7.2ubuntu3' for 'apt' was not found
[02:31] <Hobbsee> not sure if it's in /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:31] <Hobbsee> if not, you'll want it off launchpad
[02:32] <rbrunhuber> Hobbsee: Is there a "dump" for old binary packages?
[02:32] <Hobbsee> rbrunhuber: yeah, launchpad
[02:32] <Hobbsee> oh, old binaries.  should be...
[02:32] <rbrunhuber> Hobbsee: Np I'm just dl the source package.
[02:32] <Hobbsee> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/0.7.2ubuntu3
[02:33] <Hobbsee> oh.  no.  it seems not
[02:59] <rbrunhuber> Hobbsee: Thats funny i just compiled and installed the older version of apt. But i still have dependency problems from apt
[03:00] <Hobbsee> rbrunhuber: darn
[03:00] <rbrunhuber> Hobbsee: I'll wait till a fixed version is uploaded and I'll try again then.
[03:01] <Hobbsee> ok
[03:05] <rbrunhuber> Hobbsee: If the devs know that apt is messed up what is the (I assume good) reason that nobody just uploads a fixed one?
[03:05] <Hobbsee> because i'm having trouble with it building.
[03:06] <Hobbsee> and because the dev responsible probably hasnt noticed the fallout.
[03:06] <Hobbsee> there's a version with more changes in bzr, but seems to not wish to build
[03:44] <seezer> hi. anyone using gutsy with fglrx here? kaffeine(-xine) crashes on any media when using fglrx while vlc and mplayer seem to have no problem. when i switch back to the "vesa" xorg driver, kaffeine works fine.
[03:45] <Hobbsee> try #kubuntu
[03:47] <seezer> hmkay. just thought about this beeing a potential bug to report and tried to get some other userreports first.
[06:41] <nixternal> hallo
[06:41] <nixternal> hrmm, Jucato is done or taking a break :(
[06:42] <Hobbsee> :(
[06:43] <fdoving> good for him. beeing an irc support machine 20/7 must be exhausting.
[06:46] <Hobbsee> heh, yeah
[06:46] <Hobbsee> it scares me hwo many of our people are getting burnt out
[06:48] <fdoving> FOSS development is addictive.
[06:48] <fdoving> so is IRC.
[06:48] <nixternal> ya it is
[06:49] <Hobbsee> fdoving: indeed.
[06:49] <Hobbsee> i'm pretty much at the point where i have two choices
[06:49] <Hobbsee> have been since about...april, maybe.
[06:49] <nixternal> I hate the fact he felt inadequate, because the sad thing is he is so important here in Kubuntu and KDE
[06:49] <Hobbsee> yeah :(
[06:49] <Hobbsee> i say give him a break - i think he'll be back
[06:49] <nixternal> he knows more than I do with inner workings and what is going on without a doubt
[06:50] <nixternal> I have been doing Linux for more than 10 years, and what he learned in a matter of months puts me to shame after so many years of trying it
[06:50] <Hobbsee> heh
[06:50] <Hobbsee> nixternal: trying to compare yourself to other people never works well
[06:50] <nixternal> oh ya, he definitely deserves a break, all of that support will burn you out no doubt
[06:51] <Hobbsee> support.  *twitch*
[06:51] <nixternal> hehe
[06:52] <nixternal> I know he can't stay gone for long
[06:52] <fdoving> he just said no IRC, and less time, or something like that, right?
[06:53] <fdoving> IRC is very timeconsuming.
[06:53] <nixternal> ya it is, I tend to take a day or 2 off every once in a while so I can get some stuff done
[06:53] <nixternal> like today, I need to finish 4 units for homework
[06:53] <fdoving> heh, stay away from frozen bubble :)
[06:54] <nixternal> frozen bubble didn't do it for me, same game does though :)
[06:56] <Hobbsee> blob wars is my other favorite...
[06:56] <Hobbsee> although at the moment, i'm getting harassed too much on irc to enjoy a lot of it
[06:56] <Hobbsee> so i tend to not actually be here, unless it's european day
[06:56] <Hobbsee> on a weekday
[06:57] <nixternal> that harassment crap is still going on?
[06:57] <Hobbsee> yeah
[06:57] <fdoving> what harassment?
[06:57] <Hobbsee> i've had 2 different people in the past two days
[06:57] <fdoving> (i'm not very much around, i guess).
[06:57] <Hobbsee> fdoving: i'm a bit of a harassment magnet, i'm afraid.
[06:57] <nixternal> lovely, I actually had one yesterday out of the blue
[06:57] <Hobbsee> fdoving: various people from userland, etc
[06:57] <Hobbsee> nixternal: the latest one was asking "oh, what's ur asl?" etc.
[06:58] <nixternal> he didn't harass me to say the least, but he annoyed the piss out of me
[06:58] <Hobbsee> the previous one was on about how he was bored and lonely, and that he'd broken up with his girlfriend, and did i have a boyfriend...when he got no answer to that, he started asking for pics, etc.
[06:58] <nixternal> those are my favorite....asl was so 1980's
[06:58] <fdoving> Hobbsee: ok. /ignore is nice.
[06:58] <Hobbsee> fdoving: yeah, it is.
[06:58] <nixternal> Hobbsee: send him the hippo pic you sent me that one time :)
[06:59] <nixternal> I did a "Hobbsee, your a girl? omg pics@#!@!!"
[06:59] <nixternal> and she sent me a hippo pic ;)
[06:59] <Hobbsee> hahaha
[06:59] <Hobbsee> yeah, that was funny
[06:59] <nixternal> and I made it into a hackergotchi for her :)
[06:59] <Hobbsee> nixternal: do you like the new real name?
[06:59] <nixternal> the new real name?
[06:59] <Hobbsee> oh i never saw that
[06:59] <Hobbsee> yes
[06:59] <Hobbsee> mine
[06:59] <Hobbsee> to attempt to stop the abuse
[06:59] <nixternal> what is it?
[06:59] <Hobbsee> as in, you cant just look up female names in irc and find me
[06:59] <nixternal> Harold?
[07:00] <Hobbsee>  /whois me and find out
[07:00] <nixternal> hahahahahaha
[07:00] <nixternal> Flying Spaghetti Monster
[07:00] <Hobbsee> :D
[07:01] <nixternal> I have actually been suprised. I use AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, MSN and all of those wide open to where anyone can message me, yet they don't
[07:01] <fdoving> i think there is an irssi or bitchx script with a whitelist.
[07:01] <nixternal> a few years ago I remember I couldn't do that
[07:01] <nixternal> bitchx had the blacklist and whitelist stuff I remember
[07:01] <Hobbsee> i get a few randoms on those...but mostly people who i've spoken to previously, who were just weird
[07:01] <nixternal> but I would think if it worked for BitchX it would work with irssi
[07:02] <fdoving> i belive it was built into bitchx.
[07:02] <nixternal> every now and then I do those tricks to my boss...I sign up some weird goofy name and message her little kisses :)
[07:02] <Hobbsee> heh
[07:02] <fdoving> not sure.. been using irssi for like 5-6 years, don't remember much from the bitchx, ircii and epic days.
[07:02] <nixternal> she knows who it is every time...she told me "what happens if mr. right does that to me, and I think it is you?"
[07:02] <nixternal> haha
[07:03] <Hobbsee> hahahahaha
[07:03] <nixternal> damn x-wife plays the mind tricks better than I do
[07:03] <fdoving> nixternal: your reply is: "it IS mr. right" :)
[07:03] <nixternal> everytime
[07:04] <nixternal> no no, I have been divorced since 2001, however my x-wife and I have been getting much much more friendly (not like that either you perverts!)
[07:04] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[07:04] <nixternal> after I finish school I am going to be moving out by her and my daughter..so who knows what the future may hold...I want to move to Europe and she does too, so that could be a good thing
[07:04] <Hobbsee> ah, cool
[07:05] <nixternal> ya, if I was married, it wouldn't be long until I got divorced seeing the amount of time I put in here on IRC :)
[07:05] <nixternal> or the computer in general
[07:06] <Hobbsee> ScottK: also, andrea's often taken othe rpeople's merges, so they've stolen them back
[07:07] <Hobbsee> as in, if i've merged package y 5 times, and andrea stole it once, then i still feel it's mine, and so i'll take it back without asking.
[07:07] <Hobbsee> @ your ML comment
[07:07] <Hobbsee> nixternal: heh.  there are reasons it's good to be single :P
[07:08] <fdoving> Hobbsee: able to spend 24/7 on computer stuff? :)
[07:09] <Hobbsee> fdoving: not just that.  and i dont, anyway
[07:11] <nixternal> Hobbsee: oh without a doubt, single == all the computer time I want :)
[07:11] <Hobbsee> nixternal: well, not really.  i still have uni
[07:11] <nixternal> ya, me too
[07:26] <manchicken> nixternal: How goes it?
[07:26] <Hobbsee> manchicken!
[07:26] <manchicken> Hobbsee!!!
[07:27] <manchicken> Hobbsee: You should smack nixternal around a bit.  He's holding out on me with the amd64 KDE packages.
[07:27] <Hobbsee> awww
[07:27] <Hobbsee> i could try the i386 ones...
[07:27] <Hobbsee> manchicken: so that means that i can make you test cds...excellent!
[07:28] <manchicken> I'm on amd64.
[07:28] <Hobbsee> exactly :)
[07:29] <hunger> nixternal: I doubt that anyone will object to you updating qttelepathy/qttapioca. AFAIK I am the only user anyway.
[07:29] <nixternal> hunger: it is all done, as well as the new decibel 0.4.0 :)
[07:30] <hunger> nixternal: Wow, cool!
[07:30] <hunger> nixternal: Thanks!
[07:30] <nixternal> no problem
[07:30] <Hobbsee> nixternal: icf7 is whinging
[07:30] <Hobbsee> wanting to know why he's been banned from -motu
[07:31] <Hobbsee> i think that was the one you put in yesterday
[07:31] <nixternal> Hobbsee: you can unban him
[07:31] <nixternal> join/part floods last night
[07:46] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Agreed.
[07:47] <manchicken> ScottK: Disagreed.
[07:51] <ScottK> Hobbsee: I like the new name.
[07:51] <Hobbsee> ScottK: :)
[07:51] <ScottK> BTW, I had not seen your ML message when I wrote mine :-)
[07:51] <Hobbsee> yeah, i think it got snet around the same tiem
[07:53] <Hobbsee> lol
[07:53] <Hobbsee> not sure how nice or collusive mine was
[07:53] <Hobbsee> anyway, bedtime.  night all!
[07:53] <ScottK> It's a fine line between giving honest feedback and pushing someone away that has potential.
[07:53] <ScottK> Good night Hobbsee
[07:54] <Hobbsee> true that
[07:59] <ryanakca> nixternal: why not setup a script to automatically update you KDE4 packages like imbrandon had done for amarok a while back?
[08:00] <ryanakca> it would probably be quite a bit harder... but I think it could be done... *scratches head*
[08:00] <ScottK> ryanakca: Are you still working on aoeui?
[08:01] <ryanakca> ScottK: yes, I'm trying to get a debian maintainer to reupload it
[08:01] <ryanakca> "[repeat]  Can someone please quickly check aoeui? It was rejected because the copyright file said GPLv2 or later, instead of GPLv2 _only_... and I updated the ITP in changelog (typo in the number)... and that's it."
[08:01] <ryanakca> `dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/a/aoeui/aoeui_1.0~alpha5-1.dsc`
[08:05] <ScottK> OK.  I can tell youright now that the version number needs work (see my revu comment if you haven't).
[08:05] <ryanakca> ScottK: I intend to upload to debian, and then sync into ubuntu
[08:06] <ScottK> Sounds good.  I think you should say that on REVU.
[08:07] <ScottK> nixternal: How close are you moving?  Are we going to be neighbors too?
[08:07] <ryanakca> okies, will do. And I guess I should upload the current version too... :)
[08:08] <ScottK> Do change the version number to a legal on first.
[08:08] <ScottK> on/one
[08:09] <ryanakca> ScottK: 1.0~alpha5-1 wont work for Debian? (lintian doesn't complain for me...)
[08:10] <ScottK> No.  Read the policy manual paragraph on my REVU comment.
[08:11] <ScottK> ryanakca: I'd recommend 1.0-1~alpha5.0 or some such.
[08:13] <ryanakca> ScottK: ok, but in that case, wouldn't that make it upstream version 1.0, debian revision 1 alpha 5.0?
[08:14] <ScottK> Yes which is lower than 1.0-1 so when you upgrade to the final 1.0 the version number will be higher.
[08:14] <ryanakca> would 1.0+alpha5.0-1 work?
[08:14] <ryanakca> ah, ok
[08:14] <ryanakca> hmm.. fixing :)
[08:16] <ryanakca> ScottK: reuploaded to mentors and REVU
[08:17] <ScottK> ryanakca: Leave a comment once it's uploaded on REVU that it's intended for Debian.
[08:18] <ryanakca> ScottK: ok, is it still permissible to use REVU for debian? or should I completly switch over to mentors?
[08:18] <ScottK> Using revu is fine.  It's just a question of people knowing what you intend to do so they don't bother with comments about verion number/distro.
[08:19] <ryanakca> ok
[08:19] <ScottK> It's also important because if you are aiming at Debian, I'll do my test builds in my Sid pbuilder.
[08:21] <ScottK> Absolutely.  I think that's an excellent plan.
[08:22] <ScottK> ryanakca: You might also look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributingToDebian and see if you can improve it.
[08:23] <gnomefreak> are we waiting for everything to be built on new apt by chance?
[08:26] <ryanakca> ScottK: *nods* I might add something on filing an ITP with bugreport
[08:33] <ryanakca> ScottK: umm... little .orig.tar.gz problem from changing the version. debuild created one with debian/, so I deleted it, I obtained the original .tar.gz from REVU, what should I rename it to? aoeui_1.0.orig.tar.gz?
[08:33] <ScottK> ryanakca: We do want to encourage people to work with Debian, so if you can make it better, go for it.
[08:34] <ScottK> ryanakca: Good question.
[08:34] <ScottK> That points out that my advice was wrong.
[08:35] <ryanakca> hmm...
[08:35] <ScottK> You need to have a different upstream version name.
[08:35] <ScottK> name/number
[08:35] <ryanakca> so, I need to contact upstream?
[08:35] <ScottK> so when you get the final, you can use a different orig.tar.gz
[08:36] <ScottK> Hmmm
[08:36] <ryanakca> aoeui-1.0+alpha5.0.orig.tar.gz would work, if my version was 1.0+alpha5.0-1
[08:36] <ScottK> Not necessarily.  I'd suggest asking around here.
[08:36] <ScottK> That would be legal, but have a higher version number than 1.0-1
[08:37] <ryanakca> the '+' is accepted according to the policy...
[08:37] <ryanakca> ScottK: how so?
[08:37] <ryanakca> cat comes before cattle in the dictionary...
[08:37] <ScottK> Hmmm
[08:51] <ryanakca> ScottK: ii  xfig                                       3.2.5-alpha5-9ubuntu1                      Facility for Interactive Generation of figur
[08:51] <ryanakca> hmm.. 1.0-alpha5-1   , and aoeui-1.0-alpha5.orig.tar.gz :)
[09:01] <ScottK> Seems reasonable, but my brain is only partially awake just now.
[10:22] <_StefanS_> evening


[13:52] <studio-user096> Hi there, im new to linux and i just wanted to say hello :)
[14:01] <carbonzero> studio-user096: hey there! how are you? welcome aboard to linux! Any questions you may have, just ask away and someone will help you the best they can. Eickmeyer and Ovenwerks and several others are extremely knowledgeable and they'll help you if no one else can.
[14:02] <carbonzero> st
[14:02] <carbonzero> oops
[14:02] <carbonzero> studio-user096: which version of Ubuntu do you use?
[14:02] <carbonzero> studio-user096: or variant of Linux?
[17:43] <studio-user708> hello from Colombia
 Is a driver for the Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 2nd Generation USB audio interface available in Ubuntu Studio 18.04? An equivalent to the Focusrite Control internal routing software that is available for Windows and Mac? … I have got sound playback working using the interface but can't find any internal routing software.
 I keep seeing references to Alsa Mixer in relation to Focusrite interfaces. How do I access that?
 @Chris [Is a driver for the Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 2nd Generation USB audio interface av …], Unlike Windows, Linux does not require special drivers. A general rule of thumb is that if it works on a Mac, it works in Windows.
 Also, the routing configuration software is Jack, the interface for which you uninstalled (Ubuntu Studio Controls).
[18:52] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: I think the internal routing is what is wanted.
[18:54] <OvenWerks> I know there was a patch go in for the scarlett devices (From Robin G) I do not know which Kernel it was starts coming in.
[18:54] <OvenWerks> It is possible to build for older kernels though.
 Understood. Thanks.  … L
 I am using 18.04 without the backports or US Controls at the moment. Just taking it one step at a time. Not using Jack. … I just tried selecting 'Scarlett 6i6 USB: Audio (hw: 1,0)' in Audacity Preferences > Devices > Playback and Recording drop down menus. … And by golly I am getting a wave form with perfect sound from my condenser mic
[20:23] <studiobot> plugged into the 6i6 front XLR socket.   … I can hear track one playing back in my headphones plugged into the Scarlett Headphones Out 1. And I can record a second track while hearing the first with no delay or latency.  … That is all I need. Don't need a fancy DAW...yet. I might get a keyboard and try qTractor later. … That is great Ubuntu Studio
[20:23] <studiobot> people! Scarlett 6i6 works out of the box.
 Even the 6i6's phantom power works.


[10:45] <Guest36352> thanks damjan, got it working
[15:30] <pitti> ogra_: sorry, don't know much about fan -- I just sponsored; thanks for reverting, if that causes trouble (I assumed sergiusens knew what to do)
[16:27] <JohnClar_> Hey all


[00:20] <HiKsFiles> allo
[00:36] <DclRules> I'm trying to figure out what is wrong with Kontact. The Kaddress book runs, kmail works but kontact fails when I start it up. If I launch it from a terminal it tells me it took a segfault. Any ideas?
[00:44] <dmatt> DclRules: are you fully updated? what happened when is started to fail?
[00:47] <DclRules> Yes. This was a fresh install of Kubuntu 16.04.  and I just checked for updates and it claims there are none at the moment.
[00:48] <DclRules> Additional background information is that it gives me the following two lines in the console before crashing.
[00:49] <DclRules> cannot find .rc file "kontactsummary_part.rc" for component "kontact"
[00:49] <DclRules> No such XML file "/home/beatty/.local/share/kontact/default-.rc"
[00:50] <dmatt> DclRules: how did you install kontact?
[00:51] <dmatt> dmatt: ah, it is preinstalled i suppose
[00:51] <dmatt> lol
[00:53] <DclRules> I installed it either through the normal kubuntu installer when they installed the OS or I did it with synaptic can't be sure which. Its been a few days before I got to try to set up Kontact.
[00:54] <dmatt> DclRules: did you turn off any services?
[00:54] <DclRules> Not that I'm aware of. How would I do that?
[00:56] <dmatt> DclRules: System Settings/Startup and Shutdown/Background Services
[00:56] <DclRules> I can get the list of services. Which one need to be running for Kontact to work?
[00:59] <dmatt> DclRules: services - that was just guess, if you did not mess with it it should be set OK
[01:00] <DclRules> dmatt thank found the panel. But no I didn't turn any services off nor did start any.
[01:00] <dmatt> what files do you have in /home/beatty/.local/share/kontact/ ?
[01:01] <DclRules> The only file there is default-kmail2.rc
[01:04] <dmatt> DclRules: try to run akregator from internet menu
[01:06] <DclRules> I was able to  run Akregator. The panel is up now.
[01:10] <dmatt> end akregaor from menu. do you have new file default-akregator.rc in direcotry /home/beatty/.local/share/kontact/?
[01:14] <DclRules> No I don't. The only file starting with "default-  under  /home/beatty/.local/share is default-kmail.rc
[01:19] <dmatt> post output of command   ls -la /home/beatty/.local/share/kontact/
[01:19] <dmatt> into !pastebin
[01:19] <dmatt> !pastebin
[01:20] <dmatt> i am asking that to check if you have correct writing rights to that folder
[01:21] <dmatt> things sometimes mess up if you run some programs with sudo rights and they stop working afterwards
[01:21] <DclRules> Yes I do have writing rights to the folder.
[01:23] <DclRules> Your on to something. I did run sudo kontact and it came up.
[01:25] <dmatt> DclRules: stop it and chown that folder to your user beatty
[01:27] <valorie> yikes
[01:27] <valorie> never use sudo on gui applications
[01:27] <valorie> !sudo
[01:28] <DclRules> Yes I know that  but I wanted to see if it would run or was it broken.
[01:28] <DclRules> chown beatty to all folders in .local
[01:29] <DclRules> Still the same problem
[01:35] <dmatt> DclRules: try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kontact
[01:35] <DclRules> OK.
[01:35] <dmatt> dmatt: see if there is any error while it executes
[01:38] <DclRules> Reinstalled kontact. Still has the same symptoms.
[01:47] <dmatt> have you configured kmail for mail already? try to rename default-kmail2.rc to default-kmail2.rc.old and try to start kontact again, maybe it will be recreated correctly
[01:53] <DclRules> Renamed the file as you suggested. ran kontact from the terminal and it still segfaults. There is no new default-kmail2.rc file just the .old (renamed file). When kontact starts up it also starts kmail which comes up correctly even though the default-kmail2.rc file was moved.
[01:58] <dmatt> DclRules: how exactly is Kontact failing? It segfaults but at the same time also starts kmail?
[02:01] <DclRules> Yes when it starts up kmail panel opens and operates normally. There is no kontact panel and the console messages complains about several things the last being it can find  the default-.rc file.
[02:04] <DclRules> I used pastte.kde.org to paste my console messages in case the would help. The title is "Kontact console messages"
[02:06] <dmatt> DclRules: pls paste also image of started contact
[02:12] <valorie> DclRules: we need the link
[02:13] <valorie> one cannot search the paste site for titles
[02:14] <dmatt> valorie: i suppose it was the last one https://paste.kde.org/pugid7s8h
[02:15] <DclRules> I uploaded a screen shot  at http://imgur.com/JTjYCmq where the konsole in light blue and the kmail that's open was launched by the kontact command from the console.
[02:16] <dmatt> DclRules: you have fresh install of 16.04 or update drom previous release?
[02:16] <dmatt> DclRules: and did you use existing home or created new one?
[02:16] <valorie> DclRules: you might chmod your entire $HOME
[02:16] <valorie> looks like ~/.config is unreachable too
[02:17] <DclRules> Fresh install of 16.04
[02:18] <valorie> but you ran sudo kontact, did you not?
[02:18] <valorie> that immediately messes with your permissions
[02:20] <DclRules> Yes I can run sudo Kontact. I did that after I couldn't get kontact to run as from the start menu
[02:21] <dmatt> DclRules: do as valorie suggested <valorie> DclRules: you might chmod your entire $HOME
[02:22] <valorie> that never hurts, and might help
[02:23] <DclRules> Working on that now. I have some nas connections I have to work around.
[02:24] <valorie> just as a reminder,  permissions = chown -R username folder/
[02:24] <dmatt> DclRules: set both owner and group on your user
[02:25] <valorie> so chown -R /home/beatty/
[02:27] <dmatt> i think it should be: chown -R username:username folder/
[02:28] <DclRules> I did the chown plus chgrp  with sudo to catch anything that super user owned. Still fails with a segfault. The files that were changed from root were .config/kontact_summaryrc , .config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc , .config/QtProject.conf , and .config/katemetainfos
[02:32] <dmatt> DclRules: long time ago i had weird crashes when i had  session automatically restored on start, because it restored some processess in wrong state
[02:34] <dmatt> DclRules: try to set "Start with an empty session" in System Settings/Startup and Shutdown/Desktop Session  and reboot. Reboot could also help with stuck Akonadi.
[02:36] <DclRules> valorie and dmatt I want thank you for all your help. I will try to start with an empty desktop session and I'll reboot. But its getting late and work starts very early for me tomorrow. Thanks again for all the help its greatly appreciated!!!
[02:37] <valorie> yw
[02:37] <dmatt> DclRules: you're welcome. hopefully you manage to fix it
[02:37] <valorie> dmatt: is there any reason to think that the user changed the group too?
[02:38] <valorie> username:username is for both as I understand it
[02:38] <valorie> just was reading man chown
[02:38] <dmatt> valorie: he did not answer if it was new /home or reused /home partition
[02:38] <valorie> ah
[02:39] <valorie> you're right then, that would have been safer
[02:44] <Irish_canon> Hello all... Installing a Xerox 7665 Workstation PPD file and not able to get it to except the pin
[02:46] <Irish_canon> Anyone have any luch with doing this
[02:47] <dmatt> Irish_canon: printing without pin works?
[02:50] <dmatt> Irish_canon: you might have to define user and pin on xerox first and then match it in printing dialog. But I never tested it on linux.
[02:52] <goddard> if i try and remove imagemagik it wants to install foomatic-filters and paps
[02:52] <goddard> i don't need printer software
[02:53] <goddard> any help?
[02:56] <dmatt> goddard: lots of programs have imagemagick as dependency, not only printing
[02:57] <goddard> dmatt: i dont use those apps
[03:00] <dmatt> goddard: if it could not be removed then you have something installed which needs it
[03:01] <goddard> dmatt: it can be installed but during the removal process it installs foomatic-filters like I said about
[03:01] <dmatt> dmatt: i could imagine exporting to pdf from libreoffice might use it
[03:01] <goddard> i dont use libreoffice i use calligra
[03:03] <goddard> it doesn't have a ton of stupid dependencies like java
[03:04] <goddard> calligra is pure Qt
[03:04] <dmatt> calligra also uses imagemagick, but I do not know if it is optional or hard dependency
[03:04] <goddard> dmatt: for printing?
[03:06] <Irish_canon> I added the pin in the PPD file
[03:08] <dmatt> goddard: I do not know code of calligra suite, but for example krita could use imagemagick for whatever manipulation or input/output filtering
[03:16] <goddard> dmatt: know how to check dependency tree?
[03:19] <dmatt> goddard: apt-cache rdepends imagemagick
[03:22] <goddard> dmatt: no useful information with that command
[03:22] <goddard> just lists itself
[03:26] <dmatt> ok try this one: apt-cache rdepends --installed --recurse imagemagick
[03:33] <dmatt> goddard: anyway, for normal desktop use i would not remove any supporting library/program, especially if you do not know where and how it is used, which seems to be the case here
[03:34] <dmatt> dmatt: thise few megabytes are not worth the hassle and potential breakage
[03:34] <dmatt> goddard: ^^^^
[03:38] <dmatt> goddard: I need to leave, maybe somebody else could assist you more
[04:32] <r_rios> I'm trying to fix a broken update. The apt-get install -f process stops with the text "usermod : no changes". The console just stays there and nothing else happens until I stop the process. Why? Please help.
[04:35] <valorie> hmmm
[04:35] <valorie> r_rios: don't know why, but please try `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[04:35] <valorie> again
[04:41] <r_rios> valorie: Just a sec
[04:45] <r_rios> valorie: apt update updates the sources, but then asks me to run dpkg --configure -a
[04:45] <r_rios> apt full-upgrade asks me to run dpkg --configure -a
[04:46] <r_rios> I run dpkg --configure -a, but now it fails in the sa-compile step
[04:47] <r_rios>  /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/5/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/crti.o: unknown relocation (0x2a) in section `.init'
[04:48] <r_rios> But apt full-upgrade now runs anyway
[04:49] <r_rios> But there are broken dependencies, and it asks me to run apt install -f
[04:49] <r_rios> Looks like it is working now...?
[04:52] <valorie> possibly the internet burped during your first upgrade
[04:52] <valorie> it's happened to me like that.....
[04:53] <valorie> there was a gcc upgrade, but that was a few weeks back
[04:54] <r_rios> valorie: Yeah, but the sa-compile process now keeps failing. It seems the broken dependencies have been fixed, but this issue remains
[04:54] <r_rios> I'll see if rebooting helps
[05:03] <r_rios|desktop> valorie: Same problem. I can now successfully boot to the desktop, though
[05:04] <r_rios|desktop> valorie: https://paste.kde.org/pdvj1s45k
[05:06] <r_rios|desktop> Ah, yes, that should be because I didn't really finish the installation
[05:08] <valorie> hmm, I wouldn't have rebooted before trying it one more time
[05:08] <valorie> don't forget your up-arrow
[05:08] <valorie> it's my constant friend
[06:20] <nawar> hi guys
[06:20] <nawar> i'm having weird bug
[06:21] <nawar> I can't type the letter "k" in konsole
[06:25] <nawar> I can't type the letter "k" in konsole any ideas?
[06:30] <habits> Hi guys, any ideas on how I can turn off the flash plugin notification available for the browser?
[06:32] <nawar> I can't type the letter "k" in konsole any ideas?
[06:35] <valorie> nawar: does this letter work elsewhere?
[06:35] <valorie> obviously it worked here
[06:36] <valorie> but I was thinking more about something like kate and perhaps opening the konsolepart in kate, and checking there
[06:41] <nawar> yep
[06:41] <nawar> and i can type k in capital letter
[06:41] <nawar> just k in small letter i can't type
[06:42] <nawar> yep i can't type it in kate too :(
[06:58] <valorie> ok, so that gives you more information
[06:58] <valorie> is there anything else you can't type in kate and/or konsole?
[06:58] <valorie> I guess I would go through your keyboard and check
[07:02] <nawar> i can type everything except for k
[07:03] <OerHeks> soap & water ?
[07:05] <nawar> its ok now
[07:07] <nawar> it seems by mistake i put k as shortcut for changing application language
[07:07] <nawar> sorry
[07:29] <valorie> ha!
[07:30] <valorie> glad you got that fixed
[08:24] <konrados> morning :)
[08:26] <konrados> I need to mount a remote directory to my local PC. I installed sshfs and my coworker have me this: sshfs -p 24 ${remote_addr}${remote_path} /home/user/mount/$mount_dir - the coworker has left and I have no idea what are thos ${} for - I mean why a dollar and those brackets? I thought this is how we use variables in a terminal?
[08:27] <valorie> !remote
[08:27] <valorie> hmmm
[08:28] <valorie> perhaps in the mount link
[08:28] <valorie> !mount
[08:28] <valorie> konrados: are you going to be doing this regularly?
[08:29] <Quetzalcoatl> konrados: did you tried replace ${remote_addr} and ${remote_path} with the ip of the machine and the path ?
[08:30] <valorie> this might help for background: http://askubuntu.com/questions/412477/mount-remote-directory-using-ssh
[08:30] <konrados> valorie I hoped I'll this this once and it will be there forever...
[08:30] <konrados> Quetzalcoatl, almost... I entered the data inside the brackets and it didn't work
[08:30] <Quetzalcoatl> for example: remote_addr: 192.168.xxx.xxx and remote_path with: \\folder1\folder2
[08:31] <Quetzalcoatl> without $ sign and brackets
[08:31] <konrados> sec...
[08:32] <Quetzalcoatl> sshfs -p 24 192.168.xxx.xxx
[08:32] <valorie> please look at the example I linked to for some background, so you understand what you are doing
[08:32]  * valorie goes afk
[08:32] <Quetzalcoatl> look at the link provided by valorie
[08:33] <Quetzalcoatl> sshfs maythux@192.168.xx.xx:/home/maythuxServ/Mounted ~/remoteDir
[08:33] <Quetzalcoatl> this is from the link
[08:34] <konrados> Quetzalcoatl valorie I'm on it
[08:35] <Quetzalcoatl> konrados: hope that will help and solve your problem
[08:41] <konrados> Quetzalcoatl, valorie thank you! After a few more problems I did it. But I forgot to add -ro param (readonly), can I mount it once again, or I have to unmount it and mount again?
[08:42] <Quetzalcoatl> konrados: great ! you have to unmount and mount again
[08:42] <konrados> Quetzalcoatl, thanks, will do that.
[08:43] <Quetzalcoatl> konrados: you welcome :)
[09:28] <tahaan> Ugh.  I've just had my 2nd hard hang in 3 days.
[09:29] <tahaan> Kubuntu 16.04 doesn't seem stable to me.
[09:30] <tahaan> I'm going to try to get along without my external monitor for a few days because my gut-feeling tells me it is related to plugging/unplugging the external monitor.
[09:32] <tahaan> I think Driver manager is also borked.  It doesn't appear to do anything?
[09:32] <hateball> tahaan: driver manager is broken yes, you can use ubuntu-drivers from a terminal tho
[09:32] <hateball> and as for multiple monitors... yes, that is not working very great, at all
[09:33] <hateball> I'm having to rearrange panels etc when I login. Sometimes. Even if I don't ever change my setup.
[09:35] <tahaan> hateball: Yes I've once had to put my main panel back on the main display.  I have other issues which are more consistent though.
[09:37] <tahaan> I want to open a bug / enhancement request entitle "Put the freaking volume sliders back the way they were"
[09:43] <hateball> tahaan: that's being worked on, fwiw
[09:43] <hateball> tahaan: http://davidrosca.blogspot.se/2016/04/audio-volume-improvements-in-plasma-57.html
[09:46] <konrados> Hi again. I mounted a remote dir by sshfs as "normal" user (konrad) and I can access it as "konrad" but cannot as root? How come?
[09:49] <konrados> Being a root I can't chown the directory I mounted to o_O
[10:08] <tahaan> hateball: Awesome.  Maybe setting the sliders to vertical orientation can be a user preference option.
[10:51] <janusz> hi i install kubuntu 16.04 select polish language in installation but now have part text in polish part in english
[10:51] <janusz> how i can install rest of language
[10:52] <janusz> example in dolphini have few text in polish few in english
[10:52] <janusz> in 14.04 i have everything in polish
[10:57] <hateball> janusz: did you have internet connection during install?
[10:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:58] <Smurphy> hia
[10:58] <hateball> janusz: anyhow, if you have a working connection now, try "sudo apt update && sudo apt install language-pack-pl && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[11:00] <janusz> hateball: thanks
[11:04] <cyberr_> can anybody guide me about multi seat-x in kubuntu
[11:20] <tahaan> The Crash Report Assistance have TWO help buttons.  One doesn't work though.
[11:44] <Quetzalcoatl> does anyone know why after updating magnatune and jamendo databases amarok doesnt display anything?
[11:45] <Quetzalcoatl> i tried several times, but without success
[13:13] <ykamchi> HI all
[13:14] <ykamchi> I am trying to change the "Look And Feel" of my freshed installed Kubuntu. There are only 2 "Breeze" options with no way to install more  ...
[13:14] <ykamchi> any idea why?
[13:17] <hateball> ykamchi: because more havent been made, I am guessing :)
[13:17] <ykamchi> mmm .... I think that in older versions there were more....
[13:17] <Pici> /25/25
[13:18] <ykamchi> Maybe I need to install them before they are available throw the system settings GUI ?
[13:18] <marco-parillo> For Desktop Theme, there is the Get New Themes button. For Cursor Themes, I sudo apt update && sudo apt install oxygen-cursor-theme  -y
[13:19] <ykamchi> that is right, for the Theme there is an option to add ... but not the look and feel
[13:19] <ykamchi> I want a different login screen
[13:21] <ykamchi> in System/login settings there are no options for that as well
[13:21] <ykamchi> so, acctualy, there is no way to control the login and the splash screen ....
[13:23] <hateball> ykamchi: you can manually add sddm themes, there's no builtin function to do so tho
[13:24] <ykamchi> ok ... That is what I am looking for ... can you point me to good instructions and a place to download  ?
[13:24] <ykamchi> hateball
[13:24] <ykamchi> hateball
[13:24] <ykamchi> hateball: ok ... That is what I am looking for ... can you point me to good instructions and a place to download ?
[13:25] <hateball> ykamchi: there are a couple of sddm-theme-* packaged, other than that it's just google
[13:25] <hateball> I dont really bother with it myself, sorry
[13:25] <ykamchi> so, apt-get install sddm-theme-*  ?
[13:25] <hateball> no that would install all of them :D
[13:25] <hateball> !tab
[13:26] <hateball> ykamchi: apt search sddm-theme
[13:26] <ykamchi> :) thx ... let me check
[13:26] <hateball> but if you *want* all themes, by all means use *
[13:26] <hateball> otherwise just install one at a time
[13:29] <ykamchi> hateball ... thanks for the assistance ... It asks me first to run dpkg --configure -a .... did it and continue with * ... now I shall be able to choose them from the GUI ?
[13:30] <hirotadasanjo> hh
[13:30] <ykamchi> hateball: reboot needed?  I do not see them in the system settings GUI
[13:32] <ykamchi> I did the apt-get install as root (after sudo su -) ... is that a problem ?
[13:41] <hateball> ykamchi: I don't think a reboot should needed, altho I suppose it doesnt hurt
[13:41] <hateball> Might be a reload of sddm is needed, and that effectively reboots you
[13:42] <ykamchi> how do I reload sddm ?
[13:42] <BluesKaj> ykamchi:  no need for sudo su , sudo will suffice
[13:42] <ykamchi> reboot did not do the work :(
[13:42] <hateball> hmmm
[13:43] <ykamchi> The apt-get install pass ok ... but nothing in the GUI .
[13:43] <ykamchi> id there any sddm reload that reboot does not include ?>
[13:43] <Quetzalcoatl> i just noticed that the network applet from system tray doesnt display any information (e.g.: speed). also i noticed that wheni'm using iptraf it doesnt display any informations regarding speed on ether0
[13:44] <hateball> ykamchi: I can see the new sddm theme right away. Where are you looking?
[13:44] <Quetzalcoatl> is that bcz canonical changed the name from eth0 into something like enp0s3xxx?
[13:45] <hateball> ykamchi: press alt+space to bring upp krunner, type "sddm" and you should get an entry
[13:46] <Quetzalcoatl> i dont understand why you have to change something that works for years into something that broke or can broke things in theOS
[13:46] <ykamchi> nice :)
[13:46] <hateball> Quetzalcoatl: blame systemd. also you can get the old behavior back if you so desire
[13:47] <Quetzalcoatl> hateball: how can i return to the old behavior ?
[13:47] <ykamchi> so it is not on the system settings gui, or it is a bug that system settings gui doesnt show it ?
[13:47] <hateball> Quetzalcoatl: add "net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" to your grub bootline
[13:47] <Quetzalcoatl> without breaking my installation :-D
[13:47] <hateball> beware of breakage
[13:48] <hateball> Quetzalcoatl: some reading https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[13:50] <ykamchi> thanks hateball .... I will manage from here :)
[13:50] <Quetzalcoatl> thanks hatebal
[13:50] <Quetzalcoatl> *hateball
[13:52] <r_rios|phone> Hello. After uninstalling the fglrx driver from my 16.04 installation, I no longer have video. I tried reconfiguring the xserver-xorg-video-ati driver, but it didn't change anything. How do I enable the free drivers?
[13:54] <hateball> ykamchi: :)
[13:55] <hateball> r_rios|phone: You'll need to purge fglrx
[13:55] <r_rios|phone> And I keep getting a "ring 3 stalled for more than xmsec" message
[13:55] <r_rios|phone> When I switch to a tty
[13:56] <r_rios|phone> hateball: I've already uninstalled it without purging. What should I do? Reinstall/uninstall?
[13:56] <hateball> r_rios|phone: run "sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh" then "sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*"
[13:59] <hateball> r_rios|phone: see this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/VideoDriverDetection#Problem:_Need_to_purge_-fglrx
[14:00] <r_rios|phone> I'm trying, but I'm getting flooded by these ring stalled messages
[14:00] <r_rios|phone> Really hard to type in anything
[14:01] <hateball> r_rios|phone: is this a regular boot, where you've switched to a tty? if so, try rebooting to just a recovery console
[14:01] <r_rios|phone> Good idea
[14:09] <r_rios|phone> hateball: the script doesn't exist. I've already removed fglrx.
[14:09] <r_rios|phone> I think I should install it then purge
[14:10] <hateball> r_rios|phone: then follow the other steps
[14:10] <hateball> r_rios|phone: It should be noted, I have avoided ATI/AMD for a decade+ since I switched to Linux... so my knowledge is limited to searching wikis
[14:11] <ykamchi> hateball ... sorry, but one more question ... the change fixed the login screen, but not the splash ... any way I can change the splash ?
[14:12] <hateball> ykamchi: Which splash is this? The one displayed after you login?
[14:12] <ykamchi> yep ...
[14:12] <ykamchi> there was time ago a nice one that icons were changed ....
[14:12] <OerHeks> sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth will give you a list of screens you can choose from
[14:12] <ykamchi> the setting and otheres
[14:13] <hateball> plymouth doesnt have much to do with the plasma login
[14:13] <OerHeks> oops
[14:15] <BluesKaj> r_rios|phone:  do you have xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu driver installed, if so that should work on 16.04
[14:15] <r_rios|phone> BluesKaj: I do
[14:16] <hateball> ykamchi: well it's under system settings - workspace theme - splash screen
[14:16] <hateball> ykamchi: but I dont know quite how to add any... I have it disabled
[14:16] <r_rios|phone> I think I messed up when I didn't purge fglrx, and now I can't reinstall it to try and purge it
[14:17] <BluesKaj> r_rios|phone:  you may need to rinstall amdgpu
[14:17] <BluesKaj> reinstall
[14:17] <r_rios|phone> I tried uninstalling the amdgpu, radeon and ati xserver drivers, then reinstalling the ati driver
[14:18] <r_rios|phone> I'm not sure what to do if this doesn't work
[14:18] <BluesKaj> no reinatall the amdgpu
[14:26] <r_rios|phone> BluesKaj: apt install --reinstall xserver-video-video-amdgpu?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> r_rios|phone:  yes, with sudo
[14:28] <Smurphy> That didn't work for me - on the Inspiron 15. Had to go onto the AMD Download site, and download the Closed-source driver...
[14:28] <r_rios|phone> I'll now reboot to see if it worked
[14:28] <r_rios|phone> It seems it worked
[14:29] <BluesKaj> closed source, aka proprietary
[14:29] <r_rios|phone> Logo appears normally now, wasn't before
[14:29] <Smurphy> :)
[14:30] <BluesKaj> Smurphy:  it'll work until your next kernel module/kernel upgrade
[14:31] <r_rios|phone> I have accelerated video :D
[14:31] <r_rios|phone> Thanks BluesKaj
[14:31] <r_rios|phone> Also, thanks hateball :)
[14:32] <BluesKaj> r_rios|phone:  glad to help
[14:37] <ykamchi> hateball ... sorry ... I was offline ...
[14:37] <ykamchi> hateball: so, I guess you cannot assist ;(
[14:41] <BluesKaj> ykamchi:  afaik there are no splash options other than the default
[14:54] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Na - it updates these drivers all the time using dkms.
[14:56] <dbacc> anyone got breeze-dark working with kubuntu 16.04?
[15:01] <yossarianuk> dbacc: what do you mean ? What isn't working ?
[15:07] <dbacc> yossarianuk: go to system settings ---> workspace theme --> change to breeze dark . go to color , double check that breeze dark is selected. Then apply. However, even after a reboot the color scheme of the windows did not change, whereas most of  the "outer" appearance like the panel the launcher, etc. changed to the dark scheme. Can you reproduce the problem?
[15:11] <Smurphy> Works here.
[15:12] <yossarianuk> nope - i'm using breeze dark  and it works ok
[15:12] <yossarianuk> Is it GTK apps that look wrong ?
[15:13] <yossarianuk> Or QT/KDE ones also ?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Smurphy:  as long your driver registers with dkms the kernel module will rebuild the closed source driver, unless you instalkled the driver from a ppa ,if not a manual re-install is needed
[15:15] <dbacc> hmm. OK. Is there any way I could start tracking down the? No, its basically all the apps. I can go back to "Colors" and  under preview it shows me the expected ouput, but it actually still looks like the standard Breeze theme (except for the frame of the window, which is "correctly" displayed in dark.
[15:22] <dbacc> btw I had Ubuntu installed on this machine installed kde afterwards and then upgraded form 15.10 to 16.04 if this makes any difference
[15:48] <acheron88> dbacc: I had something that sounds fairly similar on one machine that had been upgraded through several versions
[15:50] <acheron88> think perhaps it was some packages/libraries/config left over from previous version, as a fresh install solved it
[15:52] <dbacc> hmm, okay. actually the problem was already there on 15.10, so it's at most the "upgrading" to KDE part. That doesn't sound very promising though.
[15:53] <dbacc> I just posted on askubuntu. Maybe someone finally knows the answer :)
[15:58] <yossarianuk> dbacc: maybe an idea to test by adding a new user - logging in with that and changing to breeze-dark to see if a fresh profile works
[15:58] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Yes. That's what I noticed.
[16:01] <acheron88> yossarianuk: worth a try. didn't work on my case, so had to actually be some system cruft somewhere and not userprofile.
[16:25] <yossarianuk> acheron88: dbacc: try - changing to breeze-dark - restart - change back to breeze, then change to breeze-dark again...
[16:35] <yossarianuk> worth a go.
[16:36] <yossarianuk> If I remember the first time I choose breeze-dark it wasn't correct until I toggled...
[17:29] <dbacc> So I tried creating a new user and the restarting + toggle , nothing seems to work :\
[18:11] <dbacc> y/j #ubuntu
[18:12] <ipatrol> what?
[18:12] <dbacc> typo:)
[18:12] <dbacc> "/j' (join)
[18:20] <dbacc> he seems to have the same problem after installing kde on ubuntu
[18:20] <dbacc> http://askubuntu.com/questions/749270/kde-color-scheme-is-not-applying?rq=1
[18:30] <BluesKaj> dbacc:  install kubuntu, not kde on ubuntu
[18:36] <acheron88> dbac: can see from their screenshot that they are using a widget style other than the default breeze
[18:39] <acheron88> gtk+ and qtcurve styles don't always take colour schemes well
[18:39] <qdata> I am using the dark-breeze on a new install of kubuntu, and it works with some anomalies. What I can't remember is if I did the Workspace-Theme meta choice, or not. If the meta-theme approach is not working you might try to use the Application Style, Color, and Workspace Theme -> Desktop Theme and set all three to dark-breeze and reboot
[18:46] <qdata> I forgot to add the Icon theme; there is a breeze-dark icon set as well
[18:52] <dbacc> BluesKaj: that' actually not my choice. But also should work this way. acheron88: The problems look quite similar to mine, and I double, no triple checked that every theme is pointing to breeze-dark
[18:53] <dbacc> nothing ever changed, even with a newly created user. that"s really strange.
[19:14] <markslaw> I'm having trouble locating data files for korganizer. when I googled the question, one answer was to look in .local/share/korganizer. Nope. Not there. Any ideas?
[19:18] <andy123> markslaw: I have the folder .local/share/korganizer/designer
[19:20] <andy123> whats your version of ubuntu and korganizer?
[19:32] <markslaw> andy123: it's 5.1.3.
[19:35] <markslaw> as for kubuntu version, it's 16.04
[19:42] <DynaMyk> hi all
[19:42] <soee> hiho
[20:36] <Guest84221> I like KDE =)
[20:36] <soee> :)
[21:35] <kays> hi