[12:20] <Sycrid> bazhang: thanks
[12:20] <bazhang> apt-cache search remmina Sycrid
[12:20] <bazhang> that will show them
[12:23] <asxetos_> this command i use mount -rw -o remount /...
[12:24] <asxetos_> i try 2 add a another user.. root.. with password.. and the same..  i enter user.. password.. svreen refresh and need enter again password
[12:27] <Laurenceb> hi
[12:28] <Laurenceb> can anyone help me add a repositiory through a proxy?
[12:28] <Laurenceb> i dont know what im doing here, and im failing badly
[12:28] <daftykins> show a pastebin of what you've tried and what's going wrong
[12:28] <daftykins> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:29] <yourbeau> xsltParseStylesheetFile : cannot parse
[12:29] <yourbeau> I/O warning : failed to load external entity ""
[12:29] <yourbeau> error
[12:29] <yourbeau> I am getting this error in terminal when I run Libreoffice
[12:30] <asxetos_> if i enter a incorrect.. password..  say incorrect password try again... but if enter correctpassword.. not say anythink just refresh screen and need it again..
[12:30] <daftykins> asxetos_: TTY or X?
[12:31] <Laurenceb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9718088/
[12:31] <Laurenceb> there
[12:34] <daftykins> Laurenceb: seen - http://askubuntu.com/questions/53146/how-do-i-get-add-apt-repository-to-work-through-a-proxy ?
[12:34] <Laurenceb> yeah
[12:34] <Laurenceb> thats where i got the line from
[12:34] <daftykins> any particular reason you're adding a PPA for software that's already in the repos?
[12:35] <Laurenceb> i need it on 10.04lts
[12:35] <daftykins> !lucid
[12:35] <Laurenceb> yeah yeah
[12:35] <daftykins> sorry, 10.04 is as dead as the dodo on the desktop.
[12:35] <daftykins> notts should be teaching you better
[12:36] <Laurenceb> its a legacy system
[12:36] <Laurenceb> needs to not be fiddled with whilst stuff on it is finished
[12:37] <Laurenceb> sometimes i feel like im swimming in a ocean of incompetence
[12:37] <NoOova> hello all~
[12:37] <honey21> i installed cacti in my ubuntu  and i have already installed lamp as well but i cant connect to mysql it shows me "FATAL: Cannot connect to MySQL server on ''. Please make sure you have specified a valid MySQL database name in 'include/config.php' "but in my include/config.php seting is correct is there any help please
[12:37] <daftykins> Laurenceb: is that a nice little rude comment about here? :)
[12:37] <Laurenceb> no, where i work
[12:38] <daftykins> ah good good.
[12:38] <Laurenceb> my life is spent running around like a headless chicken fixing monumentally stupid shit
[12:38] <NoOova> What 'sysv-rc-conf' exactly do when i disable a service?
[12:38] <daftykins> !language
[12:39] <daftykins> Laurenceb: so what aspect of Libre is it that that system uses? 'cause my instinct would be - "hey, office suite on an old box? surely docs could be removed and edited on another host" - so i figure there's more to it?
[12:39] <Laurenceb> indeed they could
[12:40] <Laurenceb> i was just trying to make my life easier so i could edit docs on this machine thats primarily for running a ton of ancient scripts
[12:40] <michagogo> Hi, what's the best place to ask about a problem with vmbuilder?
[12:40] <Laurenceb> but so much for that plan....
[12:40] <michagogo> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ZwBqGkjO
[12:40] <daftykins> Laurenceb: well, you could just insert the true PPA URL into sources.list or create an entry in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ instead of rely on add-apt...
[12:40] <daftykins> or grab .deb's and install manually
[12:40] <Laurenceb> ok
[12:41] <daftykins> make config backups before you edit
[12:41] <Laurenceb> can i use the software sources GUi  ?
[12:42] <daftykins> er, sure
[12:42] <daftykins> https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-4-0?field.series_filter=lucid
[12:42] <daftykins> seems to be a v4 lucid build
[12:44] <Laurenceb> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  403  Forbidden
[12:44] <Laurenceb> hmm ill try to find a network admin guy
[12:45] <daftykins> sounds like a plan
[12:48] <syeekick> hey
[12:48] <daftykins> hi
[12:49] <syeekick> Is there a way to view previous ssh login attempts on the client side? I know how to do it on the server, /var/auth/auth.log or w.e it is
[12:50] <daftykins> i don't quite understand, only the host you're connecting *to* is keeping a log of who failed to auth
[12:51] <syeekick> erm
[12:51] <honey21> i installed cacti in my ubuntu  and i have already installed lamp as well but i cant connect to mysql it shows me "FATAL: Cannot connect to MySQL server on ''. Please make sure you have specified a valid MySQL database name in 'include/config.php' "but in my include/config.php seting is correct is there any help please
[12:51] <syeekick> the closest I can get to is searching through the clients bash history. I was just wondering is anything logged client side for ssh logins authenticated or not.
[12:52] <syeekick> daftykins, do you understand my question a little better?
[12:52] <daftykins> are you trying to remember a user or host, or something?
[12:53] <daftykins> and whether they were successful tries
[12:55] <syeekick> yes that exactly :P
[12:55] <ablest1980> hi
[12:55] <syeekick> hey
[12:56] <daftykins> hmm, i don't think so
[12:56] <daftykins> but my knowledge is by no means complete
[13:03] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[13:03] <daftykins> hi
[13:03] <mahdi_ja> i  create my first ubuntu phone application with ubuntu-sdk.but when i run it i get this error
[13:04] <mahdi_ja> warning: desktop_Exec (app): found unexpected Exec with architecture 'all': ./qtc_device_debughelper.py
[13:04] <popey> mahdi_ja: you're better asking in #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:04] <huppfi> so i'm trying to install something and it just says ldconfig: /usr/local/lib is not a known library type anybode had that happen to him?
[13:05] <mahdi_ja> popey, thank you
[13:06] <popey> mahdi_ja: np
[13:06] <daftykins> huppfi: what version are you on and what is the command you're running?
[13:06] <huppfi> 14.4 i think and i'm trying to install a .deb file which should install sdl2
[13:07] <daftykins> manual deb install, hmm that's not the best of ideas
[13:07] <daftykins> sure it's a trusty package? confirm version with either "cat /etc/issue" or "lsb_release -d"
[13:08] <jase_> random i know just sorted some ShelSHOCK and updated kernel
[13:13] <Bombo> hey wasn't there a ppa or something for newer kernels? i just see linux-image-3.13.0-43-generic
[13:15] <daftykins> kernel backports
[13:16] <syeekick> popey lawl
[13:17] <popey> syeekick: wat?
[13:18] <syeekick> its syee from JB.. just giving you shiz
[13:18] <Bombo> hmmm this is probably what i want? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.18.2-vivid/
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | Bombo
[13:18] <honey21> i installed cacti in my ubuntu  and i have already installed lamp as well but i cant connect to mysql it shows me "FATAL: Cannot connect to MySQL server on ''. Please make sure you have specified a valid MySQL database name in 'include/config.php' "but in my include/config.php seting is correct is there any help please
[13:18] <daftykins> ah mainline, that's the trigger.
[13:18] <syeekick> you at work popey?
[13:19] <Bombo> !mainline
[13:19] <honey21> i installed cacti in my ubuntu  and i have already installed lamp as well but i cant connect to mysql it shows me "FATAL: Cannot connect to MySQL server on ''. Please make sure you have specified a valid MySQL database name in 'include/config.php' "but in my include/config.php seting is correct is there any help please
[13:19] <daftykins> !repeat | honey21
[13:20] <Bombo> ok DL'ing, i hope the wlan stick works with that kernel
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: the guest from this morning had flickering gone after edit grub to nomodeset
[13:21] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: \o/ get anywhere with the intel wifi after a dist-upgrade ?
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: i had to go after the screen fix, dont know either
[13:22] <daftykins> ah righty-o
[13:22] <daftykins> looked really messy, several variant ID codes and one is missing from the driver, so you have to manually add it
[13:23] <daftykins> though it looked like it was in 14.10 but i decided not to tell the guest to download that instead :>
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: well if wifi doesnt show right away on live, its mostly bad news :p
[13:23] <daftykins> too true
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: well 14.10 has newer drivers, but still alot of users with screen issues also
[13:24] <daftykins> from what i found it wasn't even particularly that new a haswell CPU in the thing guest had
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: yeah he has haswell intel hd 4400 grafix also
[13:29] <jrg> hm. i wonder if the samsung chromebook is an arm
[13:30]  * jrg goes to check
[13:30] <jrg> oh but ubuntu on a chromebook is just a chroot isn't it?
[13:30] <daftykins> there are multiple models afaik, and chrubuntu is a nasty chroot hack, yes
[13:31] <jrg> is that the only way to do it?
[13:31] <Calve> hi all ! I just compiled python 2.7.9 to have the latest security patches. Should I recompile pip and virtualenv too or can I stay with those from apt ?
[13:32] <daftykins> jrg: don't think so, but i call it bad advice to buy a device that needs to be 'hacked' to get ubuntu on
[13:32] <jrg> daftykins: heh. i guess that's true. i have one lying around
[13:32] <jrg> i was wondering if i could do anything with it other than chromeos
[13:33] <jrg> but i'm not really sure what cpu it has. not sure what samsung used. probably an x86
[13:33] <bearface> jrg: http://blogs.fsfe.org/the_unconventional/2014/04/20/c720-debian/
[13:33] <daftykins> jrg: i think you can cat /proc/cpuinfo if you open a tab to crosh
[13:34] <bearface> it's possible on some of the chromebooks without the chroot jail
[13:34] <jrg> bearface: neat
[13:34] <jrg> but you have to flash the rom? :) heh
[13:34] <bearface> yeah
[13:34] <daftykins> typically on all of them yeah
[13:34] <sheer> hi. i think something is wrong with my ubuntu installation. i've had it for a few days only but from day 2 or 3, it says "system program problem detected" every time i switch on
[13:34] <jrg> i love how the eu outlawed how warranty void stickers are worthless haha
[13:35] <jrg> sheer: does it give you any information about what is broken?
[13:35] <jrg> also. have you tried running an update ? maybe whatever is broken will update and fix itself heh
[13:35] <sheer> it asks me if i want to report the problem jrg
[13:35] <jrg> either that or totally break something
[13:35] <bearface> kernel <3.16 needs some tinkering to get the touchpad working though
[13:35] <Bombo> how would i list the available entries for use with grub-set-default?
[13:35] <jrg> sheer: i think it lets you see the report before it sends it
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> jrg: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/795730-how-to-easily-install-ubuntu-on-chromebook-with-crouton
[13:35] <jrg> maybe if you look at it you can get a clue
[13:35] <daftykins> i think i heard once that you get those messages repeatedly if one crash occurred, you delete the logfiles wherever they're kept then it'll silence them... but not if that issue genuinely does happen every boot
[13:36] <jrg> lotuspsychje: i still have to see whch cpu the samsung uses
[13:36] <sheer> does "transtional dummy package"
[13:36] <sheer> sound like a legit update
[13:36] <jrg> i'm going to look at it when i get back home
[13:36] <sheer> how about "the staging edition ..."
[13:36] <sheer> what is this even
[13:36] <jrg> lotuspsychje: yah i saw that already
[13:36] <jrg> i'd rather do the flash the rom method ;)
[13:37] <jrg> i don't care if i break it heh
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:37] <jrg> if it's an arm tho
[13:37] <jrg> if it's an x86 it really isn't worth it
[13:37] <jrg> i just want a faster arm that can run ubuntu and fully function
[13:37] <jrg> and doesn't suck.. i think i'm asking for too much
[13:38] <jrg> i love the tf101 because it has that dock battery that keeps it alive forever but ubuntu on it was awful
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> jrg: there are youtubes on it also
[13:39] <jrg> lotuspsychje: yah i saw the chroot method
[13:39] <jrg> i didn't see the flashing way to do it
[13:39] <jrg> that would be neat if it isn't tooo complicated
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> jrg: one with xubuntu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpDtD4eKBB4
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> looking rather neat after
[13:41] <jrg> Once you’ve done that, you’ll have to remove the ROM chip’s write-protect screw, which is number 7 in this picture
[13:41] <jrg> LOL
[13:41] <jrg> that's it?1
[13:41] <jrg> wow .. that's kind of funny.. i was expecting him to say you have to solder pins onto points x y and z
[13:41] <jrg> all you have to do is remove a screw
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> jrg: ok lets stick to ubuntu support mate
[13:44] <notsimar> morning
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> notsimar: welcome
[13:50] <Bombo> ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.18.2-031802-generic is not supported
[13:51] <Bombo> crap.
[13:51] <tomodachi> Bombo: yup basically dksm cant build your module for this bleeding edge kernel you are using
[13:51] <tomodachi> that what sucks with having modules that dont come directly with the kernel
[13:52] <Bombo> indeed
[13:52] <Bombo> whats the latest kernel that is supported then?
[13:53] <Bombo> /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-331/331.113/build/nv-drm.c:213:5: error: implicit declaration of function ‘drm_gem_object_unreference_unlocked’
[13:54] <Bombo> maybe just an old gcc issue then?
[13:54] <Bombo> gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1)
[13:54] <Bombo> hmm
[14:04] <Guest81083> hi... laptop suspends when connected to A/C but will not suspend on battery. pm-powersave, pm-suspend logs do not show anything when the suspend time occurs
[14:05] <Guest81083> is there anyway i can debug the reason
[14:05] <giampix> ubuntu
[14:06] <Guest81083> settings for both AC and battery are identical
[14:06] <EriC^^_> Guest81083: try dmesg maybe
[14:06] <MariaB> hi, i need help with a burnt disk please
[14:07] <stetho> Hi all. This isn't a "do it for me" question, just a "just checking" question - I have a load of directories that contain hyphens in their names - my-directory,some-other-directory and so on. I need to replace the hyphens with underscores. I'm trying to do it with find . -type -d -exec mv which is currently proving unsuccessful. I just wanted to ask if find is the way to do this or if there's an easier way I haven't discovered with Google?
[14:07] <Guest81083> thanks Eric. I will give it a try and report back
[14:07] <jatt> stetho: if you use emacs, you can easily do it with emacs and wdired mode
[14:07] <EriC^^_> stetho: you can use rename
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> MariaB: whats the problem exactly?
[14:08] <EriC^^_> stetho: man rename, it uses the sed syntax
[14:08] <geirha> stetho: See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/030  for various ways to do it
[14:09] <stetho> EriC^^_ I looked a rename - it "implies" it can't tell the difference between a directory and a file which scared me. I only want to rename directories.
[14:09] <stetho> Did I miss something?
[14:10] <geirha> stetho: You use find to find the directories, and -execdir rename to do the renaming
[14:11] <MariaB> lotuspsychje: hi, my hard disk is freezing the computer and i was told it has bad sectors and i need to check it
[14:11] <cfhowlett> MariaB, and?
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> MariaB: you can check with the ubuntu disk utility and do a SMART test
[14:12] <daftykins> MariaB: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools" then "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[14:12] <daftykins> i really need to alias that.
[14:12] <MariaB> cfhowlett: i have some data on it which i need to remove and i want to copy ubuntu to a new hard disk i have
[14:12] <cfhowlett> daftykins, I nominate for a factoid ...
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: ill nominate too :p
[14:13] <cfhowlett> MariaB, save the data... DO NOT copy ubuntu.  do a fresh install.  your system is already suspect.
[14:13] <daftykins> cfhowlett: :D i think smart is one but it links to a page that sort of says "learn how to use this", i forget
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> there is a way to request factoids, but forgot howto
[14:13] <daftykins> to be honest i got a bit disillusioned because i've been in -ops with 5+ updates before and every single one got ignored.
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> same here
[14:13] <daftykins> !amd
[14:13] <MACscr> hmm, why are my ubuntu systems being assigned so many ipv6 addresses by dhcp?
[14:13]  * cfhowlett feels disillusioned as well
[14:14] <daftykins> yep still no !amd
[14:14] <jrg> alrighty. just got home.. let me see if this samsung chromebook is ubuntu ready :D
[14:14] <MariaB> daftykins: ok, coming right up
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> jrg: did you read pm
[14:14] <jrg> oh i'm sorry. no. just got back in. dropped my son off at school
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> jrg: there is a crouton script for chrome to run ubuntu in a window
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> jrg: look that up at home :p
[14:15] <jrg> yeah i saw that but i wanted bare metal ubuntu ;)
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> kk no sweat
[14:15] <jrg> oh .. i don't know why i thought this was a samsung... it's an asus
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:16] <jrg> asus C200
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> jrg: well good luck with it
[14:18] <MariaB> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/WpuJrFQn
[14:20] <Guest81083> Hi eric... no logs written to dmesg either
[14:20] <EriC^^_> Guest81083: hmm
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> Guest81083: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and play with suspend a bit, see what errors you get there maybe
[14:22] <daftykins> MariaB: oh wow, as disks go that one is deader than dead
[14:22] <Guest81083> ive tailed syslog pm-powersave/suspend dmesg
[14:22] <MariaB> daftykins: oh, that bad? :)
[14:22] <Guest81083> no logs written when the timeout occurs
[14:22] <daftykins> MariaB: yep, lines 65 and 197 are your main ones
[14:23] <Guest81083> i have the exact same settings for AC and battery
[14:23] <daftykins> MariaB: sorry 65 and 80
[14:23] <Guest81083> and the laptop suspends without issues on AC, but not on battery
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> Guest81083: thats very weird indeed, what kind of laptop is this?
[14:23] <MariaB> daftykins: is it still possible to recover the data that's on it?
[14:23] <asxetoss> http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | MariaB
[14:23] <asxetoss> i have this problem
[14:23] <Guest81083> Acer v7
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> MariaB: sudo photorec after install to recover data
[14:24] <cfhowlett> MariaB, meantime, you need to cease using it.  every read/write is just making things worse
[14:24] <asxetoss> with alt crt f3 i can login..
[14:24] <daftykins> MariaB: lotuspsychje has your back. follow the advice from a live session, with a second healthy disk connected to recover the data to
[14:24] <asxetoss> Ubuntu gets stuck in a Login Loop
[14:24] <jrg> ah just looked it up
[14:25] <jrg> it' an N2830 intel
[14:25] <jrg> blah
[14:25] <jrg> that's a bit pointless then. i wanted an arm heh
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> Guest81083: maybe install dconf-editor and check power settings there?
[14:26] <jrg> ah well. maybe some day someone will release an arm laptop that's fully 100% functional for ubuntu and doesn't suck :)
[14:26] <jrg> guess i'll stick to the ad-droid tf101 if i want godlike battery life
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> jrg: maybe the XDA forums got a port to your device?
[14:27] <francois_> OpCharlieHebdo
[14:27] <jrg> they do
[14:27] <Guest81083> lotus, i have dconf-editor installed. i am unable to find the PM settings though
[14:27] <jrg> tried it.. it's awful
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> Guest81083: lemme find that holdon
[14:27] <jrg> too much blob from the ad-droid kernel hackery and too buggy
[14:27] <MariaB> daftykins: ok, thank you and lotuspsychje and cfhowlett very much :)
[14:28] <cfhowlett> MariaB, best of luck
[14:29] <jrg> lotuspsychje: some day..... some.... day heh
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> Guest81083: org/gnome/settings/daemon/plugins/power
[14:29] <jrg> hopefully the unity docking portion of phones or maybe there will be more ubuntu tablets if these phones come out
[14:29] <jrg> that use arm
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> Guest81083: did you also check bios for any weird acpi settings maybe?
[14:29] <jrg> i'd give anything for an asus with a battery dock that is like 10x faster and fully works with ubuntu
[14:30] <jrg> this thing can stay on for an entire day under heavy use with the battery dock
[14:30] <district97> hi
[14:30] <Guest81083> lotuspsychje : the bios settings only allow for change of boot order ..nothing else
[14:31] <district97> ita?
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> !it | district97
[14:31] <district97> ah ok thanks bro
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Guest81083 maybe the no_acpi setting from here might help?
[14:32] <wyx> Hey guys, I've a little issue with my other machine. I've installed ubuntu 14.10 with live dvd and it works, but on the first boot it stays black. there is just a blinking underscore on the second line. any suggestions? btw the right boot device is selected ;)
[14:33] <kchristianthomas> Hi
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> wyx: did you try also 14.04?
[14:34] <wyx> lotuspsychje: yep tried both. same result. I've also tried to enter the grub menu by pressing and holding shift during boot or by pressing esc. but it didnt work. I've tried legacy and uefi booting too
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> wyx: you sure you turned off fastboot + secureboot correctly?
[14:35] <wyx> lotuspsychje: i hope so... i'll check it once again.
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> wyx: yes doublecheck, that fastboot options can hide somewhere deep soemtimes
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | wyx
[14:37] <wyx> lotuspsychje: fastboot was disabled, and bootmode is legacy only, cant find anything regarding secure boot.
[14:37] <phre4k> where do I get Pidgin 2.10.11? Is it in backports?
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> wyx: normally if you set to legacy, must be good
[14:38] <wyx> lotuspsychje: thought so ;)
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> wyx: so, if you boot your usb can you hit f1 to see options?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> wyx: choose setup or live
[14:39] <wyx> lotuspsychje: sure if i'm booting it from the live image.i can run both...
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> wyx: yes, but can you try F1 at the boot of your usb to enter more options
[14:40] <jflt> Hello
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> wyx: nomodeset etc
[14:40] <wyx> lotuspsychje: okay booted
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> wyx: looks like this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/O2m9a.png
[14:41] <wyx> lotuspsychje: yeah thanks, got it
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> wyx: you could try nomodeset, what kind of machine is this?
[14:43] <wyx> lotuspsychje: nomodeset and boot from first hard disk?
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> wyx: yes
[14:43] <jflt> I need some support with wine for ubuntu, if someone can help me i would really appreciate it
[14:43] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, that's another pic worth saving!
[14:43] <cfhowlett> !wine | jflt
[14:44] <wyx> lotuspsychje: it's an gigabyte h87-d3h with an i5
[14:44] <solsTiCe> !ask | jflt
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: yeah would be handy isnt it, to make us poor supporters life more easy :p
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> wyx: you recall what grafix card?
[14:45] <wyx> lotuspsychje: nvidia 560 i think. I've been running arch on it without any issue
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> wyx: you know if thats an optimus card?
[14:46] <wyx> lotuspsychje: nope its a general desktop card without any acceleration and stuff. quite linux friendly from my experience ;)
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> kk
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> wyx: very strange that 14.04 doesnt wanna install friendly on your box..
[14:48] <Guest81083> ok.. i unticked the use-time for policy and the laptop suspended on battery...weird that it would have an effect..but i am glad i can suspend the laptop..thanks everyone
[14:48] <wyx> lotuspsychje: okay with nomodset it's "booting from local disl... Boot failed: press a key to retry..." maybe it's connected, that i got a ssd, which i've used for my system and 2 HDDs for data... probably grub messed up with boot volumes
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Guest81083
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> wyx: did you check if your bios is set from IDE to AHCI for ssd?
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> wyx: what i would do is re-try 14.04.1 fresh, with internet/updates enabled during setup, see what that does
[14:52] <wyx> lotuspsychje: Sata controller is enabled and set to ahci, i've tried 14.04 quite a few time without connections. i'll try disabling the both hdds during the first boot now
[14:52] <asxetoss> the tty login work but the gui mode not login.. just loop.. Help pls..
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> wyx: i would try install right away 14.04 not the live session
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> asxetoss: ubuntu version?
[14:53] <asxetoss> lotuspsychje: 14.04.1 lts
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> asxetoss: you installed fresh also? other ubuntu versions worked for you?
[14:54] <Guest81083> test
[14:54] <wyx> lotuspsychje: k. disabling both hdds via the controller didnt work too. dding my thumbdrive again ;) but thanks for your help up to this point
[14:54] <asxetoss> lotuspsychje: is not fresh .. the problem is bc i changet password.. in recovery mode.. i think..
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> asxetoss: try fix broken packages from failsafeX recovery, or reinstall
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> wyx: doesnt make sense 14.04 doesnt wanna boot
[15:00] <wyx> lotuspsychje: yeah for me neither trying it again now
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> wyx: let me know if you can enter the 14.04 setup screen
[15:02] <wyx> lotuspsychje: entered. i would just proceede with install ubuntu
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> wyx: yes try :p
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> wyx: you can also see your ssd from the setup?
[15:08] <wyx> lotuspsychje: now i've tried the 14.04.1 installation and got a kernel panic... i'm redownloading the image and try it on another thumbdrive.and yeah i saw my ssd
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> ok
[15:09] <premoboss> hello. in /etc/network/interfaces i have eth0 configured as static. There is address (<IP_ADDRESS>), netmask (<IP_ADDRESS>), network (<IP_ADDRESS>) and broardcast (<IP_ADDRESS>). I guss if "network" and "broadcast" must be present or not?
[15:09] <daftykins> premoboss: nope unnecessary
[15:09] <daftykins> premoboss: only address, netmask, gateway
[15:09] <premoboss> ok
[15:10] <daftykins> maybe nameservers if you want to override
[15:10] <daftykins> or remove the package 'resolvconf' then hardcode into /etc/resolv.conf
[15:10] <premoboss> i suspect they are uneecessary because .0 and .255 should be reserved automatically
[15:10] <premoboss> i wll take only add, net and gat,
[15:11] <premoboss> i set nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf
[15:11] <daftykins> that gets overridden at boot if resolvconf is present
[15:11] <backbox> hi
[15:11] <backbox> hackers
[15:12] <premoboss> resolfconf overvrite /etc/reseolv.com in bad mode "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" and take my PC outside internet.
[15:12] <premoboss> daftykins, i solver with attr -i /etc/resolv.conf
[15:12] <daftykins> i don't think that's a solution offhand, but i'm not familiar with that method
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> premoboss: maybe the ##networking guys might point you to the right direction?
[15:13] <premoboss> i dont understand why it overwrite my reselv.conf in a way that mahe interent not reachable.
[15:13] <premoboss> lotuspsychje, could be, thnaks.
[15:14] <daftykins> your router might be 1.254 and not 1.1
[15:16] <wyx> lotuspsychje: back in business, entered the setup menu ;)
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> wyx: lets cross our fingers :p
[15:17] <wyx> lotuspsychje: okay without interent connection, no encryption, no lvm, no dualboot
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> wyx: enable inernet
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> wyx: + updates, thats important to let ubuntu choose right grafix driver
[15:18] <wyx> lotuspsychje: okay
[15:19] <cobra-the-joker> does this channel supports ubuntu gnome version on ubuntugnome.com ?
[15:19] <coolstar> is it possible to set up an HTTP proxy server on my computer that uses a SOCKS5 proxy?
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> cobra-the-joker: yes, and also the #gnome channel
[15:19] <EriC^^_> cobra-the-joker: if it's 12.04/14.04/14.10 yes
[15:20] <cfhowlett> cobra-the-joker, possibly.  ask your question
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> coolstar: you want to run a server, or just being anon yourself?
[15:21] <cfhowlett> cobra-the-joker, note: #ubuntu-gnome is the correct channel
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: tnx for the hint
[15:22] <coolstar> lotuspsychje, I currently use SSH to bypass web restrictions at school (SSH creates a socks5 proxy on my laptop), but if I want to get my iPhone unblocked I need to set up an HTTP proxy on here as well
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> !squid | coolstar
[15:22] <cobra-the-joker> nice ... i was just wondering if it is an official release of ubuntu supported by the community
[15:23] <MestreLion> is there a way to programatically get the default prefix for new users HOME dir? In other words: where is "/home" defined?
[15:23] <MariaB> MestreLion: echo ~<user>
[15:23] <MestreLion> MariaB: that's for the home dir of an existing user, correct?
[15:23] <coolstar> lotuspsychje, I'm assuming I just use squid without squidguard?
[15:24] <huma> how come ubuntu server minimal system takes almost 1 gb of space?
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> coolstar: didnt test myself
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> huma: what do you want to achieve?
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> cobra-the-joker: yes its supported
[15:26] <daftykins> huma: that's the way it goes. it was about 700MB 5 years ago, so no real huge change
[15:26] <MariaB> MestreLion: yes
[15:26] <MestreLion> MariaB: that's for existing users, which can be different than the default. Also, '~' does not work in scripts
[15:27] <cousteau> Hi, I have openjdk-6-jdk installed.  I want to install Java 7.  Is it enough to just install openjdk-7-jre, or will this cause lots of trouble due to having 2 java versions installed?
[15:27] <cousteau> or will /etc/alternatives handle that?
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> !java | cousteau
[15:27] <daftykins> cousteau: you'd then use some kind of update-alternatives command yeah
[15:28] <huma> lotuspsychje, daftykins: i'm going through the os dev book which uses ubuntu and coming from arch pretty amazed how bloated the "minimal system" on ubuntu is :)
[15:28] <MestreLion> I need a way to get (or set) the default prefix for new users. The convention is "/home", but is that defined anywhere in a system?
[15:28] <MariaB> MestreLion: it will show the home dir of an existing user, it works in scripts.
[15:28] <cousteau> ok, so `sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk` would be enough?
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> huma: what did you expect really? how small do you need it?
[15:28] <tomodachi> MestreLion: the home folder is defined in the passwdfile
[15:28] <cousteau> (assuming I also want to compile java)
[15:28] <daftykins> huma: apparently it turned 2015 the other day ;)
[15:29] <cousteau> ...well, now that I think of it, maybe I only install the jre; that way if I ever compile Java it'll use the v6 JDK and thus be compatible with java 6
[15:29] <daftykins> MestreLion: if nobody comes up with anything, #bash
[15:29] <MestreLion> cousteau: you should also upgrade the icedtea-plugin
[15:29] <wyx> lotuspsychje: ha i've probably spotted the error... my ssd is sdb, and during the installation it saided grubinstall /dev/sda...
[15:29] <cousteau> MestreLion, ok.  Screw icedtea though.
[15:29] <cousteau> having flash in the browser is enough trouble already
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> wyx: ahhhh, you need to config your ssd to primary then, for fast ubuntu boot
[15:30] <wyx> lotuspsychje: it installed grub to the wrong harddisk...now i booted from my hdd and it works.
[15:30] <MestreLion> cousteau: yes, update-alternatives handle the switch, but since there are *many* java-related switches, there is update-java-alternatives :)
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> wyx: but you installed ubuntu on mechanical hd instead of ssd?
[15:31] <MestreLion> cousteau: which will switch all alternatives at once for your chosen java version
[15:31] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: partitioned ok it sounds like
[15:31] <daftykins> just GRUB in the wrong spot
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> ahh
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> kk
[15:31] <cousteau> MestreLion, wait, is icedtea only the browser plugin?  or also some sort of java runtime thing I'll always need?
[15:31] <wyx> lotuspsychje: nope... thats the trick. I've installed everything on the sdd (/dev/sdb) and it automatically made the grubinstall to /dev/sda (one of my hdds)
[15:31] <MestreLion> cousteau: the java browser plugin only. But if you have it, it should match your current java version
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> wyx: did you build your system, or plugin a new ssd?
[15:32] <wyx> lotuspsychje: i've always tried to boot from my sdd /dev/sdb what didnt wokr.
[15:32] <huma> lotuspsychje: i'd expect a "minimal system" to be about 250 mb
[15:32] <wyx> lotuspsychje: both ;)
[15:32] <cousteau> MestreLion, ok, so it's irrelevant that I still have openjdk-6-jre?  If the default Java is 7 it won't work?
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> wyx: maybe sata configged wrong, so it doesnt take ssd as primary?
[15:32] <cousteau> (also, aren't these things backwards compatible?)
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> wyx: wich ssd brand plz?
[15:33] <MestreLion> cousteau: you can have both java 6 and 7, and set up which will be the default using `update-java-alternatives`. Do not use `update-alternatives` directly, there are dozen of aliases
[15:33] <huma> daftykins: 2015, indeed. hmm, let's see how much arch is taking up these days on the minimal installation.
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> huma: not sure if a server can be so small, check the #ubuntu-server guys
[15:33] <cousteau> oh I see
[15:34] <cousteau> what's the command?  `update-java-alternatives --auto`?
[15:34] <wyx> lotuspsychje: it's an crucial m4. 128 gig. yeah maybe i'll leave grub on my hdd or i'll just make another grub-install to sdb
[15:34] <wyx> lotuspsychje: or do you recommend switching the sata channels?
[15:34] <cousteau> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java doesn't even mention update-java-alternatives
[15:34] <daftykins> huma: i think the idea is to provide a minimal setup with a lot of commonly used tools etc etc, i'm sure you could prune it a lot.
[15:34] <sheer> i have this stop sign coming up at the top right of my ubuntu 14.04
[15:35] <sheer> near the wifi/time icons
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> wyx: nice one, i would checkout POST boot info, to see what hd boots first
[15:35] <MestreLion> cousteau: --list first, then --set <you chosen one>
[15:35] <EriC^^_> sheer: that's probably the package manager reporting an error
[15:35] <sheer> EriC^^_, it is. what do i do about it?
[15:35] <EriC^^_> sheer: click on it
[15:35] <sheer> i did.
[15:35] <EriC^^_> try sudo apt-get -f install
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> wyx: anyway enjoy your ubuntu experience now :p
[15:36] <sheer> oh. and it just vanished. only about a minute after doing that command you just gave me. thank you.
[15:36] <MestreLion> cousteau: --auto will set the version defined as default for your ubuntu relase. Thats java 6 for 12.04 and 7 for 14.04
[15:36] <cousteau> MestreLion, hmm, that only shows version 6-- oh damn, I forgot to remove the -s in apt-get  m(
[15:36] <wyx> lotuspsychje: i'll chekc on that tomorrow. but thanks for your help anyway. ;) yeah just this tiny little glimps with grub-install /dev/sda. not quite sure if it's a bug if you install to /dev/sdb and the grub-install still goes for /dev/sda
[15:37] <sheer> EriC^^_, before i go through the linux commandline ebook....... how do i uninstall pidgin from the command lien?
[15:37] <sheer> line*
[15:37] <EriC^^_> sheer: sudo apt-get purge <package>
[15:37] <MestreLion> cousteau: theres also the package `default-jdk/jre`, which will install the default version for your release
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> wyx: sounds like hd's are switched around places from bios/mobo
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> wyx: trusty will go rocketfast on your crucial :p
[15:37] <sheer> thanks again
[15:38] <wyx> lotuspsychje: thanks and bye ;)
[15:38] <MestreLion> cousteau: so if you don't have any need for a specific version and simply wants to install java, go with "sudo apt-get install default-jdk". and IIRC, it will also pull the plugin
[15:39] <cousteau> yeah, this is an old ubuntu and that version is 1.6, but I need 1.7
[15:40] <daftykins> cousteau: how old? :P
[15:40] <cousteau> 12.04
[15:41] <MestreLion> cousteau: then all you need is `sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk icedtea-7-plugin`
[15:41] <cousteau> (it's the PC at work and I don't want to do many weird things on it)
[15:42] <cousteau> is the JDK necessary/recommended?  if I'm ever going to make Java I'd prefer to make it as portable as possible, so maybe JDK should remain at 1.6
[15:42] <MestreLion> cousteau: it will pull all the needed java-related packages. It will not remove java 6, and it *may* also set the new version as the default, but you could check using update-java-alternatives
[15:43] <cousteau> well, apt-get install openjdk-7-jre didn't set the alternative directly, but your update-java-alternatives trick worked
[15:43] <district97> hi guys i have to now how to join ubuntu italy
[15:43] <MestreLion> cousteau: because that's just the jre
[15:44] <k1l_> district97: /join #ubuntu-it
[15:45] <cfhowlett> !it | district97
[15:45] <district97> how i write that message
[15:45] <cousteau> district97, repeat with me:
[15:45] <cousteau> /join #ubuntu-it
[15:45] <MestreLion> cousteau: it's 2015, it's pretty safe (and recommended) to develop using java 7. It will work fine in java 6 too as long as you don't use any java 7-specific routines
[15:46] <district97> thanks guys
[15:46] <cousteau> yw :)
[15:46] <cousteau> MestreLion, well, it's not the first time I run into "version 51 not found!" messages...  are you sure this only happens if I use 7-only functions?
[15:47] <MestreLion> cousteau: incompatibilities goes both ways, so if I face one I'd rather ask a user to upgrade from 6 to 7 than asking to downgrade his 7 to 6
[15:47] <cousteau> ok, screw it then
[15:48] <Magnus__> Question: How is ps -A different from sudo ps -A? Maybe they the same?
[15:48] <cousteau> Magnus__, well, the sudo one may show things the regular one can't
[15:49] <michagogo> Question about the upgrade from tar 1.26 (in 12.04) to tar 1.27 (14.04). The release notes say this:
[15:49] <michagogo> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Y5i5zPW0
[15:49] <cousteau> MestreLion, and it seems that I needed the update-java-alternatives anyway
[15:49] <Magnus__> Such as?
[15:49] <michagogo> Does that now mean that --skip-old-files is what -k *used* to be?
[15:49] <cousteau> Magnus__, processes owned by root that are hidden to other users
[15:49] <cousteau> (no idea which)
[15:49] <Magnus__> Thanks
[15:50] <MestreLion> cousteau: for example: java 7 is available since *at least* Ubuntu 10.04. We don't know how log will Java 6 be available for new distros.
[15:50] <EriC^^_> Magnus__: diff <(ps -A ) <(sudo ps -A) will tell you which
[15:51] <MestreLion> cousteau: also windows machines tends to have 7 only for several years
[15:51] <k1l_> michagogo: no. keep old files made a error 2 out of duplicates on exiting. -skip old files now just skips them without error
[15:51] <cousteau> MestreLion, really?  weird
[15:52] <k1l_> michagogo: both dont override duplicates, but the old one made a drama, the new one just skips.
[15:52] <cousteau> (does java7 for Windows still have that annoying installer trying to put the ask.com bar everywhere?)
[15:52] <michagogo> k1l_: wait, what?
[15:52] <MestreLion> cousteau: weird how? the java update for windows always install the latest version
[15:52] <Sh3r1ff> cousteau: affirmative ;)
[15:53] <michagogo> k1l_: I know the difference between --skip- and --keep-old-files now in 1.27
[15:53] <MestreLion> and yes it does :)
[15:53] <cousteau> MestreLion, well, weird because the (rare) occasions when I see the updater it says something about version 6 iirc
[15:53] <michagogo> My question is this: as far as I can tell from reading the messages, --skip-old-files in 1.27 is equivalent to -k/--keep-old-files **in 1.26**.
[15:53] <cousteau> although maybe I recall incorrectly
[15:54] <MestreLion> cousteau: on windows?
[15:54] <michagogo> Is that incorrect?
[15:54] <cousteau> MestreLion, yes but as I said I rarely go there and I rarely run the updater
[15:54] <cousteau> anyway this went offtopic and I don't want to pollute the channel
[15:54] <k1l_> michagogo: in the end: no duplicates are overwritten: yes.
[15:54] <MestreLion> no prob
[15:54] <k1l_> michagogo: but not in the messages you see while its done
[15:55]  * cousteau goes to #ubuntu-offtopic just in case
[15:55] <michagogo> k1l_: I ask because there's a script that uses tar -k, with some of the destination files already existing
[15:55] <michagogo> in precise, that script worked fine
[15:55] <michagogo> Now, in trusty, it fails and says "Cannot open: File exists"
[15:56] <k1l_> michagogo: yes, use the skip option
[15:56] <michagogo> k1l_: so the exact behavior of 1.26's -k is not 1.27's --skip?
[15:57] <michagogo> s/not/now/
[15:57] <MestreLion> tomodachi: /etc/passwrd lists the current home dir of each existing user. New users by default are set to "/home/<username>". Is that default defined anywhere an admin could change, or a script could read?
[15:57] <k1l_> michagogo: from man tar on 14.10: -k, --keep-old-files       don't replace existing files when extracting, treat them as errors
[15:57] <michagogo> k1l_: ...yes
[15:58] <michagogo> I know what -k does in trusty (and presumably also in utopic)
[15:58] <michagogo> yes, just checked, they're both 1.27
[15:58] <k1l_> michagogo: so they are errors now. you want to use --skip-old-files if you dont want them to be treated as errors
[15:59] <michagogo> k1l_: I was just looking for confirmation that 1.26 (12.04)'s -k is exactly parallel to 1.27's --skip-old-files
[15:59] <michagogo> And it sounds like that's the case
[15:59] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, whenever I transfer files with SFTP it saturates my entire connection and I can not load any simple http pages or ping anything. This is on a commercial network connection as well. The actual 'speed' of transfer is nowhere near the cap of the connection.
[15:59] <Pinkamena_D> Can I throttle it somehow?
[16:00] <k1l_> michagogo:  -k, --keep-old-files       don't replace existing files when extracting    <<< that is from a 12.04
[16:00] <michagogo> k1l_: yeah, already looked at that manpage
[16:00] <michagogo> It does, however, silently ignore them, rather than being an error
[16:00] <k1l_> michagogo: so its really like they said in their changelog: they changed -k from no errors to errors :)
[16:00] <michagogo> Okay, thanks
[16:01] <Bobbo> So I just installed Ubuntu 14 on my desktop rig, and after login it freezes, I've got a nvidia card (650 Ti Boost), in 12.04 I had no problems. Seems to happen with nouveau, nvidia-304 (from repo), nvidia-331.38 from nvidia's website wouldn't install (haven't checked into that fully yet), and regardless of DE (tested unity, gnome 3 and xfce). Any suggestions from savvy people? :)
[16:01] <Bobbo> also,please ^
[16:01] <geirha> MestreLion: /etc/adduser.conf
[16:01] <daftykins> Bobbo: there is more than just 304 from built-in repos, 319 and 331 too.
[16:02] <MestreLion> thanks geirha ! :D
[16:02] <Bobbo> daftykins: sorry, that was from nvidia-current.
[16:02] <daftykins> Bobbo: purge nvidia* then install nvidia-331 anyway
[16:03] <tomodachi> MestreLion: well depends on how you add the account, if you use useradd the manpage states that it will use the home folder specified in the  /etc/default/useradd  or /home/ by default
[16:03] <BluesKaj> Bobbo, which ubuntu 14?  14.04 or 14.10 ?
[16:03] <Bobbo> 14.04
[16:03] <geirha> Best avoid using useradd unless you have a good reason to
[16:04] <MestreLion> thanks guys! I'll read both /etc/default/useradd and /etc/adduser.conf :)
[16:04] <BluesKaj> good luck with nvidia, the 331 card isn't available for it afaik, try the 319 driver
[16:04] <BluesKaj> Bobbo, ^
[16:05] <Bobbo> uhh, okay
[16:05] <BluesKaj> err 331 driver, rather
[16:05] <Bobbo> wait, what?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> install the 319
[16:07] <Bobbo> kay
[16:07] <soverc> I want to be able to start ubuntu with no gui, but also start gui, but also end gui session, can anyone point me towards how
[16:07] <Bobbo> Hopefully this'll work, thanks. :3
[16:09] <daftykins> !info nvidia-331 trusty
[16:10] <daftykins> Bobbo BluesKaj ^
[16:11] <ppf> how exactly are package dependencies handled?
[16:11] <ppf> for instance, apt-cache showpkg gpgsm lists several dependencies, among them "gnupg2"
[16:12] <ppf> however, when i try to install gpgsm, gnupg2 is _not_ going to be installed
[16:12] <Magnus__> Q: What is the best way to find and kill a process?
[16:12] <ppf> is that a bug? or a feature?
[16:12] <Bobbo> Magnus__: ps -C command_name to get the pid
[16:12] <cecja> MannerMan: ps -X
[16:13] <Bobbo> What does -X do? :P
[16:13] <yukino> hey
[16:14] <yukino> ivr got a problem my wifi drivers wont show i need help asap
[16:14] <Bobbo> daftykins: BluesKaj : no dice, still happening. =/
[16:14] <yukino> anyone think that could  help its for a toshiba portage m400
[16:15] <daftykins> Bobbo: you removed the one from the website, presumably?
[16:15] <ppf> Bobbo: what is the problem with the latest ones from the website?
[16:15] <daftykins> Bobbo: also confirm it's actually getting used by checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log - i gotta head off now though
[16:15] <Bobbo> The website version never installed; couldn't build the kernel module. I should of read into it more. :£
[16:16] <daftykins> ah i see
[16:16] <ppf> Bobbo: where did it fail
[16:16] <daftykins> latest won't help you anyway
[16:16] <BluesKaj> Bobbo, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:17] <Bobbo> Looks like it's loading nouveua.
[16:17] <Bobbo> Wait
[16:17] <Bobbo> It's loading both?
[16:17] <daftykins> nope
[16:17] <BluesKaj> nope
[16:17] <Bobbo> In my log I've got "LoadModule: "nvidia""
[16:17] <Bobbo> and thne a few lines down
[16:17] <Bobbo> In my log I've got "LoadModule: "nouveau""
[16:18] <ppf> you should remove nouveau and install the latest drivers from nvidias website
[16:18] <ppf> during installation, it will update your xorg.conf as well
[16:18] <daftykins> ppf: sorry but that's terrible advice
[16:18] <yukino> cant anyone help with wireless set up
[16:18] <daftykins> you don't even need a xorg.conf
[16:18] <yukino> i have a m400 toshiba
[16:18] <BluesKaj> no need to remove nouveau , just reboot , Bobbo
[16:18] <hydrajump> hi
[16:18] <Bobbo> I already did, BluesKaj.
[16:19] <BluesKaj> did you run sudo nvidia-xconfig ? Bobbo
[16:19] <Bobbo> Am now. :£
[16:20] <hydrajump> i've successfully been using ubuntu mini 14.04 with just installing `xserver-xorg and lightdm`, but now I'm trying to reduce the amount of packages that get installed and I'm trying with the following `            sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-ati
[16:20] <ppf> daftykins: i didn't have so good of an experience with the nouveau drivers, and sometimes the original nvidia drivers work very well
[16:20] <hydrajump> and `sudo apt-get install --no-installed-recommends lightdm`
[16:21] <Bobbo> BluesKaj: No dice. :3
[16:21] <ppf> the last part is definitely not true for all versions of their drivers, but the latest one appear to work great so far (for me, that is)
[16:21] <hydrajump> but it seems that I'm missing something because when I reboot the system I don't see the lightdm login greeter.
[16:21] <ppf> hydrajump: do you see no greeter at all? or just a different one?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Bobbo,  roll the dice again by rebooting
[16:23] <hydrajump> ppf: hi I just see the command line login prompt. no greeter.
[16:23] <ubuntu> @b0d1$
[16:23] <hydrajump> I got the minimal X Windows packages suggestion from here http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/128860/minimal-x-org-xserver-installation-on-debian-wheezy
[16:23] <ppf> okay, can you login there, and run "sudo service lightdm start"
[16:24] <hydrajump> ok let me try
[16:24] <Bobbo> BluesKaj: Still nope. :3
[16:24] <hydrajump> ppf: I'm getting `start: Job failed to start`
[16:25] <ppf> go take a look at what lightdm has to say about that in /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[16:25] <BluesKaj> Bobbo,  lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D'
[16:25] <hydrajump> I don't know if the problem is with my X Windows minimal install missing something or if it is the no-install-recommends lightdm that only installs 3 and not the full 480 packages :(
[16:26] <hydrajump> ppf: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5c3feb073d466b094eac#file-gistfile1-txt-L24
[16:27] <hydrajump> can you pls take a look
[16:27] <Bobbo> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9719253
[16:28] <noor_> in the name of god
[16:28] <ppf> i think you should install xorg and some window manager, such as openbox
[16:29] <backbox> hhahahaha payload generated
[16:29] <BluesKaj> Bobbo, "Kernel driver in use: nvidia"
[16:30] <ppf> does anyone have any input on my packaging question from earlier?
[16:31] <ppf> why is it that when i try to install gpgsm, it does not install gnupg2 along with it?
[16:32] <farbod> hi,i know this channel isnt for my question but pls answer me :)
[16:32] <cfhowlett> farbod, you are seen
[16:32] <EriC^^_> ppf: it's not a dependency, it actually breaks gnupg2
[16:32] <EriC^^_> ppf: apt-cache show gpgsm
[16:33] <k1l_> farbod: if you already know its offtopic you can ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or search for a channel that suits your question better with alis
[16:33] <k1l_> !alis | farbod
[16:33] <ppf> what's the difference between apt-cache's show and showpkg?
[16:33] <farbod> i want to buy a MacBook pro for coding(php,python,html....) what is your idea about it?
[16:34] <k1l_> farbod: that is offtopic here, please ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:34] <cfhowlett> farbod, #ubuntu-offtopic is the place to discuss.  Thank you.
[16:34] <sangwoojoo> How do I improve the key-rate speed extremely?
[16:34] <farbod> thank you :)
[16:34] <ppf> EriC^^_: because in showpkg it's listed as a dependency
[16:34] <ppf> (furthermore, how does gpgsm break gnupg2?)
[16:36] <lv_> anyone know if 1.0.1f-1ubuntu10 is to be published to ubuntu repos soon?
[16:36] <lv_> this is the package fixing the openssl vulnerabilities listed in CVE-2015-0205 and others
[16:36] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu
[16:36] <k1l_> lv_: of what package?
[16:36] <lv_> k1l_: sorry openssl
[16:37] <k1l_> lv_: in general, ubuntu patches the security issues. it does not mean that the version number is increased
[16:37] <lv_> ok , we haven't seen anything yet
[16:38] <k1l_> lv_: here is the status of that cve: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2015/CVE-2015-0205.html
[16:38] <EriC^^_> ppf: i have no idea
[16:39] <EriC^^_> ppf: apt-cache depends gpgsm says it will break it too, i dont know
[16:39] <ppf> okay
[16:41] <EriC^^_> ppf: i'd say showpkg aren't that accurate, if i had to guess
[16:42] <ppf> i think gnupg 2.x actuelly implements s/mime, so it looks like it is a replacement of gpgsm
[16:43] <ppf> i'm looking into a packaging problem with claws-mail right now, where there appears to be a confusion between gpgsm and gnupg2, but i guess that's something i should take over to #claws?
[16:45] <EriC^^_> ppf: yeah
[16:46] <cfhowlett> EriC^^_, don't all the apt-cache command pull from the same package database?  I don't understand why showpkg could be more or less accurate than other apt-cache command
[16:46] <EriC^^_> cfhowlett: me neither, but showpkg supposedly pulls forward dependencies, so it's recursive, and i guess it has a bug or something
[16:47] <cfhowlett> EriC^^_, OK
[16:47] <EriC^^_> i had a list of forward dependencies of gcc for someone who asked here once, and bogus stuff show in in showpkg
[16:49] <cfhowlett> EriC^^_, dang!
[16:49] <EyeOfMidas> Is there a way I can debug lightdm startup scripts? I can't tell if mine are running or just broken.
[16:49] <ActionParsnip_> EyeOfMidas: In your script, add lines to echo text to a file, you can then read the file and know the script is running
[16:51] <EyeOfMidas> @ActionParsnip_ great idea. Thanks :)
[16:53] <EyeOfMidas> It worked! Except this means my script is broken.
[16:55] <ActionParsnip_> ok well have the echos output variables and such to the text file so you can see what is being used.
[16:55] <UbuN2> hello Linux community .
[16:56] <EyeOfMidas> Is there any reason why xrandr wouldn't make the requested changes on either display-setup-script or greeter-setup-script?
[16:56] <cfhowlett> UbuN2, ask you ubuntu questions
[16:57] <EyeOfMidas> This isn't working for me, but I'm not sure why: http://askubuntu.com/questions/408302/rotated-monitor-login-screen-needs-rotation
[16:58] <UbuN2> idont have any cfhowlett thanks.
[16:59] <yourbeau> does anyone know how to disable the nvidia optimus GPU in Ubuntu ?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip_> yepla: try exporting the screen to 0:0
[16:59] <strangler> yourbeau: why
[16:59] <EriC^^_> strangler: dont pm ne nasty stuff please
[16:59] <EriC^^_> strangler: if you have something to say, say it here
[17:00] <EriC^^_> ( like a man )
[17:00] <strangler> yourbeau: Why disable nvidia
[17:00] <yourbeau> strangler, Its nvidia GT Geforce 635 and performance wise it sucks
[17:00] <yourbeau> strangler, I have Intel Graphics as well and it would be fine for me
[17:00] <UbuN2> im getting silly pm`s from strangler too
[17:01] <strangler> GeForce 635 . yourbeau that's a beast. Intel crawls compared to intell
[17:02] <strangler> GeForce 635 . yourbeau that's a beast. Intel crawls compared to nvidia
[17:02] <strangler> yourbeau: maybe it's already disabled and your using Intel.
[17:03] <Malcorox> morning all
[17:04] <yourbeau> strangler, look that might be beast but only with non-free drivers I don't like it
[17:05] <KaaK> how can I manipulate the system time?
[17:05] <KaaK> everytime I use date to set it -- something is correcting it back
[17:06] <KaaK> as far as I can gather, NTP is not enabled ...
[17:06] <EyeOfMidas> My system can run the script just fine, and xrandr sets everything up corrrectly. But when I put the same script under greeter-setup-script it doesn't seem to change the monitor configuration
[17:07] <EyeOfMidas> but the script is definitely being called
[17:07] <Malcorox> does anyone frequently work with wget?
[17:07] <cfhowlett> Malcorox, a bit
[17:08] <Malcorox> cfhowlett: is it possible to wget a page looking for a username/password form?
[17:08] <strangler> yourbeau: maybe do it in bios.
[17:08] <Malcorox> possible regex, but not sure if there is an option or response within wget that would indicate the presence already
[17:08] <cfhowlett> Malcorox, you mean interactively sign in?
[17:08] <Malcorox> onpe
[17:08] <Malcorox> nope*
[17:09] <yourbeau> strangler, it is not available in the bios of my laptop
[17:09] <Malcorox> wget -optionsforlookingforpasswordpromptonsite sss.com
[17:09] <Bobbo> I *think* wget has some kind of support for specifying a username and a password, but I'm not sure how it works fully. You'd have to check the man page
[17:09] <Fire_Cat> jon
[17:10] <Fire_Cat> help
[17:10] <Fire_Cat> 请问怎么进中文ubuntu
[17:10] <cfhowlett> !cn | Fire_Cat
[17:10] <cfhowlett> Malcorox, I get it ... never used that option though.  checking the man page
[17:13] <Fire_Cat_> 请问怎么进ubuntu中文频道?
[17:13] <Malcorox> cfhowlett: it's going to be an aha moment, but for now, it's something that's been puzzling me for about a week
[17:13] <cfhowlett> Malcorox, you can definitely pass a proxy login/passwordd
[17:14] <Evanion> MaaS Question .. Does the MaaS server handle the DHCP on the private network, or would that be something that I have to add separately?
[17:14] <Malcorox> cfhowlett: yup, just looking for how that affects the output for validation against sites that do or don't have a prompt for credentials
[17:15] <Malcorox> e.g. pass in a list of URLs into wget, with the proper options to pass username/password if a form exists
[17:15] <Malcorox> might be able to look for an 'invalid username/password' in the response though
[17:15] <cfhowlett> Malcorox, again: never done that but ... looks like the --post-date=string or --post-file=file options are what you're after
[17:16] <Malcorox> cfhowlett: thanks, I'm going to check in on this, see if I can get it to work
[17:29] <mikethebos> how do i use ghex to identify 0x0f in a jpg file
[17:35] <nlern> hello everyone!
[17:36] <mikethebos> how do i use ghex to identify 0x0f in a jpg file
[17:37] <ozux> what is the default sound server in ubuntu? (Current stable)
[17:38] <nlern> I have just installed Return to Castle Wolfenstein in Ubuntu 14.04. The game runs but there is no sound. I get the following error:/dev/dsp: No such file or directory.\nCould not open /dev/dsp. Help please!
[17:40] <cfhowlett> nlern, there is no linux version of this game so ... steam???
[17:41] <b1001> What command would you use to see if a specific service is set in a specific runlevel (ubuntu equivelant to chkconfig --list <service>)
[17:41] <nlern> cfhowlett:I had the CD image and there are installer for linux availiable online (search google). From there I installed it.
[17:42] <theadmin> b1001: Ubuntu does not use runlevels.
[17:42] <jpds> b1001: There are no runlevels on Ubuntu.
[17:42] <cfhowlett> nlern, yeah, you found a 3rd party crack.  not supported here.  ask the programmer
[17:42] <mikethebos> how do i use ghex to identify 0x0f in a jpg file
[17:43] <theadmin> ozux: PulseAudio
[17:43] <nlern> No, not a crack! there is a ubuntu page giving installation instruction also.
[17:43] <cfhowlett> nlern, ???
[17:43] <cfhowlett> nlern, I stand corrected!  sorry.
[17:44] <nlern> check:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/ReturnToCastleWolfenstein and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1417963
[17:44] <cfhowlett> nlern, still: probably best you ask the publisher as this is not an ubuntu program
[17:45] <b1001> theadmin, jpds: right..
[17:45] <b1001> :D
[17:46] <nlern> cfhowlett: the game is using OSS program probably and I want to know how to force it to use pulseaudio that's all
[17:46] <theadmin> nlern: padsp
[17:47] <theadmin> nlern: padsp /path/to/your/program
[17:47] <theadmin> nlern: That will create a fake /dev/dsp for that program to use which will redirect stuff to Pulse
[17:48] <nlern> theadmin: I get following message:Sorry but your soundcard can't do this and no sound comes
[17:48] <Bobbo> So... Further on the startup issue. When logging in the DE never shows, I'm just left hanging with a mouse and the background (although the computer is not unresponsive). Done a clean install (Ubuntu 14.04) and cleared my .config directory so using all new configs. Just installed and rebooted. I've also removed one monitor so I'm only running one VGA device. Any ideas someone please?
[17:49] <theadmin> nlern: ...I don't even know what that means sorry
[17:50] <nlern> theadmin: there is also a configuration file for the program which  sets sound device as follows:"snddevice "/dev/dsp"". Can I change the device from here?
[17:51] <theadmin> nlern: Probably, I dunno
[17:51] <thanius> Hello, I'm trying to write a udev rule to run a script when a DVD is inserted. udev reports changes but doesn't run my script
[17:51] <thanius> Anyone out there that knows how to handle udev?
[17:51] <compdoc> thanius, maybe
[17:52] <compdoc> oh, I see. nm
[17:52] <nlern> OK guys thanks for helping. Bye!
[17:52] <thanius> compdoc: I've got this rule - 99-autodvd.rules: SUBSYSTEM=="block", KERNEL=="sr0", RUN+="/usr/local/bin/autodvd"
[17:52] <KaaK> how can I test a crontab entry for schedule correctness? (*not* job correctness, I can simply redirect to files for that)
[17:52] <thanius> compdoc: On one line, obviously.
[17:53] <KaaK> i want to test that `25 6 * * *` does actually run daily at 6:25am
[17:53] <MariaB> KaaK: set the system clock
[17:53] <thanius> compdoc: The script simply creates a log in my home to see if it works, but alas, it doesn't
[17:53] <compdoc> thanius, Ive never tried to do what youre trying. I didnt see the line that you wrote above
[17:53] <thanius> compdoc: But you know udev?
[17:53] <ozux> theadmin: thanks,
[17:53] <KaaK> MariaB, is there any reason why that would fail? I'm doing exactly that ...
[17:54] <KaaK> so for my 6:25 job, i set the clock the 6:24 and wait
[17:54] <compdoc> thanius, I only know how to work with it and network hardware when things go wrong
[17:54] <MariaB> KaaK: what's the command you're running? does using touch to create a file work?
[17:55] <thanius> compdoc: Alright, thanks anyway.
[17:56] <KaaK> MariaB, system entry (/etc/crontab): 26 6    * * *   root    echo 'test' >> /tmp/cron.test
[17:57] <MariaB> KaaK: add it to root's crontab, crontab -u root -e
[17:58] <MariaB> KaaK: i dont think you should use /etc/crontab , the times will be off
[17:59] <thanius> Anyone else knows how to monitor optical media with udev and have it run a script when there's a disc in?
[18:00] <Jeroi> hello questions about x
[18:00] <Diplomat> Hey everybody! Can you please help me with this command: find /var/named -type f -printf "%AY-%Am-%Ad-%AM-%AS=%f\n" <-- it should output a date when file was last modified and a file name.. like 2015-01-12-19-59=myfile.txt or it would be even better if it could output a timestamp instead of a date. Also for some reason it repeats files like.. it shows files twice
[18:00] <KaaK> MariaB, had to restart cron to pickup the time change ...
[18:01] <KaaK> if up update the time to before the cron task, then restart cron quickly
[18:01] <Jeroi> I have hdd with had default xsession to start program that made fullscreen
[18:01] <KaaK> it will run the task
[18:01] <Jeroi> it uses commandline utilities
[18:01] <elichai2> what the DISPLAY var means?
[18:02] <elichai2> DISPLAY=:0.0 unity --replace
[18:02] <Jeroi> Now I updated 12 o 14 ubuntu which rreplaced gdm to lightdm gave my desktop access and able to see the program files
[18:02] <Jeroi> now
[18:03] <Jeroi> The program have __.xsession and __.bindrc files which incorporates default keys
[18:03] <Malcorox> has anyone worked with curl? haha
[18:03] <bekks> Malcorox: I bet someone already did.
[18:03] <Jeroi> does lightdm support another xsession startup with custom xsession?
[18:03] <Malcorox> bekks: ;)
[18:04] <Jeroi> I mean I need able to boot the program via new xsession and able to switch between desktop and program via hotkeys
[18:05] <EriC^^_> Diplomat: find .... | while read $i; do echo `stat -c %y $i`=$i; done
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> Jeroi  explore the Xnest command
[18:07] <bekks> Jeroi: Can you define "program" a bit further and explain why you cant start it on your desktop?
[18:09] <cody__> anyone with a asus rog laptop have trouble with bumblebee?
[18:10] <Jeroi> well it uses __.xsession to startup startcore.sh
[18:11] <Jeroi> which the uses some commandline utilites to display custom login screen and start loading player
[18:11] <bekks> Jeroi: And you cant use startcore.sh without the __.xsession?
[18:11]  * nickander asus hater
[18:11] <Jeroi> how?
[18:11] <bekks> Jeroi: And which player is it?
[18:11] <Jeroi> melplayer
[18:12] <Jeroi> the problem with it is no internet acces while using it and wanted to have desktop client in it
[18:14] <Jeroi> it's because the xsession loads some window modes, etc
[18:18] <cody__> anyone use bumblebee on a asus rog? i've tried everything to get it to recognize my nvidia 860m
[18:18] <Jeroi> this happens when I try to login as melplay to start new xsession
[18:18] <Jeroi> XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0"
[18:18] <Jeroi>       after 186 requests (185 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[18:18] <Jeroi> firefox: Fatal IO error 11 (Resurssi ei tilapäisesti ole käytettävissä) on X server :0.0.
[18:18] <Jeroi> The application 'plugin-container' lost its connection to the display :0.0;
[18:18] <Jeroi> most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed
[18:18] <unopaste> Jeroi you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:19] <robin_> I've got a (nearly) fresh install of ubuntu using the new Gnome 3 (?) on my 17" HP ENVY laptop and after I adjusted my display settings for my 32" external monitor (above the default display) there seems to be a hard-region in the middle of my large external monitor. I can't maximize the windows deliberately, and they cannot take up half the screen when I drag to the side and release. What am I doing wrong?
[18:19] <Jeroi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9719829/
[18:19] <cody__> anyone use bumblebee on a asus rog? i've tried everything to get it to recognize my nvidia 860m
[18:20] <Jeroi> here is full xsession error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9719838/
[18:20] <Jeroi> when I try to log in as melplay
[18:21] <Jeroi> I have logged as my account to desktop already so mostlikely the xsession tryies to run AT SESSION 0 WHICH IS IN USE
[18:22] <itisit> Hi, how to remove a package without remove other packages which depend on it?
[18:22] <julian-delphiki> itisit
[18:22] <julian-delphiki> that likely won't work.
[18:23] <fragment137> Taking a chance asking in here but does anyone have experience connecting to XRDP from a Mac?
[18:23] <bubbasaures> itisit, End goal and exact package go a long way.
[18:24] <bubbasaures> !topic | fragment137 yes you are no support
[18:25] <cfhowlett> fragment137, ask ##mac
[18:25] <itisit> julian-delphiki: thanks
[18:25] <itisit> bubbasaures: thanks, so no simple way to do it?
[18:25] <fragment137> Cool, thanks
[18:25] <elichai2> what the DISPLAY var means?
[18:25] <elichai2> DISPLAY=:0.0 unity --replace
[18:26] <subsume> hey there. i installed nginx via apt and its running fine but when i do both 'sudo service nginx' and /etc/inti.d/nginx status it says its not running
[18:26] <bubbasaures> itisit, You don't understand my statement?
[18:26] <nithin> hi my memory card has been corrupted and it is not showing
[18:26] <subsume> the only way i have right now to reload my config is to kill the master process
[18:26] <nithin> can any pls help
[18:27] <bekks> nithin: What do you mean by "memory card"?
[18:27] <seanh> Anyone aware of any problems with coffeescript installed from npm on Ubuntu 14.04? It doesn't seem to be working for me, baffled
[18:27] <nithin> small memory cards used in mobiles
[18:27] <bubbasaures> itisit, we need exact info generally, or at least a hint, especially in this issue
[18:27] <trism> subsume: how about: initctl --system status nginx
[18:27] <bekks> nithin: Micro SD card?
[18:27] <nithin> ya exactly
[18:28] <subsume> initctl: Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[18:28] <trism> subsume: what version of ubuntu is this?
[18:28] <julian-delphiki> subsume: are you running these commands with sudo, or root?
[18:28] <subsume> sudo, yep
[18:28] <subsume> nginx version: nginx/1.4.6 (Ubuntu)
[18:28] <nithin> bekks: can you please help
[18:29] <julian-delphiki> subsume: which ubuntu version, not nginx version :)
[18:29] <julian-delphiki> nithin: that's not really an ubuntu support question.
[18:29] <bekks> nithin: So what did you do exactly, what happens, what do you expect to happen - and which Ubuntu release are you on?
[18:29] <subsume> 14.04
[18:29] <nithin> ya i know but i want some option to recover that files
[18:29] <bekks> nithin: So you dont even run Ubuntu at all?
[18:30] <itisit> bubbasaures: i should explain this more clearly. For example,  I wan to remove one package python-boto in ubuntu, then I got: apt-get remove python-boto
[18:30] <itisit> Reading package lists... Done
[18:30] <itisit> Building dependency tree
[18:30] <itisit> Reading state information... Done
[18:30] <itisit> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[18:30] <itisit>   cloud-init cloud-utils euca2ools python-boto
[18:30] <nithin> ya im using ubuntu 14.10
[18:30] <unopaste> itisit you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:30] <bekks> nithin: And the other three questions? :)
[18:31] <bubbasaures> itisit, Cool, you want to always pastbin any more than two lines is all, that is closer for the channel to look at.
[18:31] <lv_> !ubuntu
[18:31] <nithin> bekks: suddenly Micro sd card got unmounted and when i used to mount through a card reader it is not working
[18:31] <lv_> !ubuntu openssl
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> lv_  better use /msg ubottu
[18:32] <bubbasaures> itisit, The general rhetoric is don't do this sort if you can't fix it yourself is all.
[18:32] <bekks> nithin: Define "it is not working". What are you trying (which commands exactly) and what happens (complete output in a pastebin)?
[18:32] <lv_> looking for the openssl security updates?!
[18:32] <lv_> anyone have a clue
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> !ssl
[18:32] <lv_> !ssl
[18:32] <lv_> :D
[18:33] <Pici> lv_: Was there something recent that you're epxecting to see?
[18:33] <vbgunz> does anyone know why when I use byobu locally to connect over ssh to another machine that launches byobu automatically open login, the remote byobu doesn't launch automatically? I got to call it manually?
[18:33] <nithin> bekks: actually i dont know what happend, its not accesseble and i lost all datas
[18:33] <bekks> !info openssl | lv_
[18:33] <subsume> trism: julian-delphiki 14.04
[18:33] <bekks> nithin: So which commands are you using and whats their output?
[18:33] <julian-delphiki> lv_: If there is a specific CVE you're looking for you can put it in here: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/ and it will tell you what the fixed package #s are
[18:35] <nithin> bekks: i tried a command testdisk to recover, but actually the micro sd is not showing as a seperate memory area
[18:35] <bekks> nithin: How did you try to mount it again and what was the entire output you got?
[18:36] <nithin> i used a card reader to mount the micro sd card but there is no response
[18:36] <Fire_Cat> 请问怎么进入UBUNTU 中文?
[18:37] <itisit> bubbasaures: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9719889/ if anyone can help, I would appreciate it.
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[18:37] <bubbasaures> itisit, Are you trying to remove the amazon link in unity?
[18:37] <Fire_Cat> joined
[18:38] <bubbasaures> Fire_Cat,  /join #channel
[18:38] <nithin> bekks: hello you there?
[18:38] <itisit> bubbasaures: this is just an example.
[18:39] <bubbasaures> itisit, Cool, looked at it's use and saw amazon is all.
[18:40] <bubbasaures> itisit, My guess is a bloat clean, if this is the issue a net install will allow you to install what you want.
[18:40] <lv_> julian-delphiki: thanks!
[18:42] <trism> subsume: it looks like the nginx init.d script just checks whatever the pid file in /etc/nginx/nginx.conf is (default seems to be /run/nginx.pid) so you might check that file and see if the pid matches
[18:42] <itisit> bubbasaures: I don't get what you said. I want to uninstall package A, package B, C, D depend on it already installed. Now how to just simply uninstall A without removing B, C, D? thanks
[18:42] <subsume> trism: yeah they match fine and its running
[18:43] <trism> subsume: what output to do get from /etc/init.d/nginx status; ?
[18:43] <subsume> "nginx is not running"
[18:43] <bubbasaures> itisit, no prob, I will have to default to don't do that in the end myself, best of luck. ;)
[18:43] <itisit> bubbasaures: now I got it:-)
[18:44] <trism> subsume: not sure then, very weird
[18:44] <subsume> yeah
[18:44] <NinjaCowboy> Is there any Linux program that can view OneNote files?
[18:49] <bubbasaures> NinjaCowboy, any linux would be ##linux
[18:50] <NinjaCowboy> Ubuntu is the distro that I use, so I figured it would be appropriate here.
[18:51] <thanius> Is udev broken in ubuntu?
[18:52] <thanius> Because whatever I do I can't seem to make it work with my script.
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> NinjaCowboy: there are official microsoft web apps, also for onenote
[18:52] <thanius> It should be dead simple, but it doesn't budge
[18:52] <bubbasaures> NinjaCowboy, Than ask in a way that shows that.
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> NinjaCowboy: interesting stuff here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19230/microsoft-onenote-alternative
[18:53] <bubbasaures> NinjaCowboy, Like the last user I looked on the net, but was not sure really what was going on.
[18:59] <wjtaylor> Is single user mode only available from the physical keyboard or can it be used via terminal connection?
[18:59] <lawr> wjtaylor: physical keyboard
[19:01] <wjtaylor> lawr: Is that what people are referring to when using the term console?
[19:01] <wjtaylor> Confused between terminal and console
[19:01] <lawr> wjtaylor: a console is a terminal
[19:01] <lawr> console = terminal = command line = CLI
[19:01] <lawr> = shell
[19:01] <lawr> etc.
[19:02] <wjtaylor> some systems make a difference between console and terminal. Console seems to be a special case.
[19:03] <lawr> wjtaylor: it is still all the same thing
[19:04] <lawr> don't get confused
[19:04] <wjtaylor> ok
[19:06] <dsnyders> wjtaylor: differentiating them properly involves a bit of history. As lawr says, they all do the same thing.
[19:13] <wjtaylor> ok. Thanks
[19:24] <sergi_> hola
[19:24] <sergi_> Que tal
[19:24] <sergi_> profe
[19:24] <sergi_> :D
[19:24] <Pici> !es | sergi_
[19:25] <sergi_> s
[19:25] <sergi_> hello
[19:45] <b10s_> hi2all
[19:45] <jsw__> Hey! Hoping someone can help me with a wierd apt issue. I'm trying to apt-get update on a fresh EC2 Ubuntu 12.04 VM, but I get a NO_PUBKEY 0EC7E508BE09C571 error. I try adding that key, but it's already added (result is unchanged: 1). Anyone know what's wrong?
[19:45] <b10s_> are there way to install php 5.3.last on ubuntu? what is easiest way exclude compile?
[19:47] <kokut> Hello, i have a bunch of duplicate hidden "text" files in folders that contain text files, ending with ~ why is that?
[19:47] <Jordan_U> kokut: Your text editor is configured to make temporary files like that.
[19:48] <kokut> Jordan_U: gedit?
[19:48] <kokut> thats weird
[19:50] <kokut> Jordan_U: well im gonna see if i can configure it to stop bc i like seeing hidden files and every time i go into my "texts" folder all fires are duplicated
[19:54] <jsw__> Nm, my problem was I was using sudo gpg  instead of 'sudo apt-key adv'. Didn't know there was a difference.
[19:57] <CrtxReavr> How do I manually rebuild /etc/group- to encorporate changes to /etc/group?
[20:00] <hexdsl> hey dudes :)
[20:01] <trism> CrtxReavr: /etc/group- is just a backup of /etc/group
[20:02] <CrtxReavr> trism, okay, if I manaully add a user to a group, now do I get it to take effect then?
[20:02] <hexdsl> Ive been fighting with Virtual box all evening. Got it installed on headless 14.04 server. accessing it via Remmina. every time i install Guest additions on it it stops booting. google was no help so im seeking your wisdom :)
[20:03] <kx25> i
[20:04] <squinty> hexdsl:  #vbox and/or #ubuntu-server irc channels here on freenode.  vbox is the Virtualbox channel
[20:05] <hexdsl> squinty: thanks
[20:05] <trism> CrtxReavr: you need to log out/ back in when you add new groups to your user
[20:07] <CrtxReavr> trism, so I see. . . kooky.  BSD & Solaris are not like that.  /etc/groups is queried every time there's a group function.
[20:07] <CrtxReavr> Thaks.
[20:07] <CrtxReavr> Thanks even.
[20:08] <Pharaoh2> Which package include the /usr/bin/time binary?
[20:08] <chemist^> Hello everyone! I've just made a fresh install of Windoz 7 and Kubuntu 14.04 on a desktop computer. First I've installed windows and afterwards Kubuntu. Both OS are on the same disk, 2 different partitions. When i finished the installation of Kubuntu, it booted directly in Kubuntu, no GRUB appeared. I tried the "boot-repair GUI" and now GRUB does appear, but there is no option for booting into windows.
[20:08] <Pharaoh2> and what is the way to search for such information?
[20:08] <Jordan_U> Pharaoh2: dpkg -S /usr/bin/time
[20:08] <Pharaoh2> ahh thanks
[20:08] <Jordan_U> Pharaoh2: You're welcome.
[20:09] <theadmin> chemist^: Run "sudo update-grub"
[20:09] <chemist^> When I try to run "update-grub" it updates the list, but does not recognize where windows is installed. (still no option for booting into windows) .... fdisk -l shows the partition
[20:09] <theadmin> Oh.
[20:09] <chemist^> theadmin :)
[20:09] <squinty> Pharaoh2:  fwiw, the following is a good reference too  http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[20:10] <Jordan_U> chemist^: What is the output, if any, of "sudo os-prober"?
[20:10] <chemist^> i have /dev/sda1 - linux, then /dev/sda2 - HPFS/NTFS/exFAT and /dev/sda3 - swap
[20:10] <chemist^> Jordan_U no oudput
[20:10] <chemist^> output
[20:10] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | chemist^
[20:11] <chemist^> Jordan_U can this be of any help to you? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9720359/  .... it's from the boot-repair
[20:11] <Jordan_U> chemist^: Usually if os-prober doesn't find an installation of Windows, it's because that installation is missing files needed for Windows to boot. Usually these files are missing because Windows' "System Partition" was accidentally deleted.
[20:13] <chemist^> Jordan_U hmm...should i try using the windows dvd to repair it and then the kubuntu live cd for updating grub?
[20:13] <chemist^> Jordan_U before i installed kubuntu it booted into windows normally
[20:13] <stangeland> hi, i have copied my public key into .ssh/authorized_keys but still i am asked for password when i try to do ssh. Do i need to do something else as well?
[20:13] <chemist^> stangeland have you disabled the password in your sshd conf.?
[20:14] <stangeland> chemist^, hmmm no
[20:14] <stangeland> chemist^, where is that config?
[20:14] <stangeland> chemist^, /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[20:15] <chemist^> stangeland the configuration file of the ssh server
[20:16] <chemist^> i don't remember the exact path
[20:16] <stangeland> chemist^, ok and what do i change in there?
[20:16] <chemist^> there are few files there, it shouldn't be hard to find
[20:16] <fabio> Hi everyone! ive bought an asus PU301LA and after install ubuntu the trackpad goes like crazy when i touch it
[20:16] <chemist^> search for password and see if it's enabled
[20:16] <fabio> shows and hides windows etc
[20:16] <Mewtwo> salut
[20:16] <fabio> does anyone here could help me?
[20:16] <stangeland> chemist^, now its set as: #PasswordAuthentication yes
[20:16] <stangeland> chemist^, so its already disabled?
[20:16] <chemist^> then set it as no
[20:17] <chemist^> and delete the hashtag
[20:17] <chemist^> "uncomment" the line
[20:17] <stangeland> chemist^, ok, and restart ssh service?
[20:17] <chemist^> don't know
[20:17] <chemist^> try and see :D
[20:17] <chemist^> Jordan_U have you had a look at the link i gave you?
[20:18] <stangeland> chemist^, still its asking for owd
[20:18] <stangeland> pwd
[20:18] <Jordan_U> chemist^: Indeed, it looks like you accidentally deleted your Windows System Partition (It's a small partition near the beginning of the drive that contains the files Windows needs to load before switching to the NT kernel). I don't know how to restore that partition, ##windows can probably help you there.
[20:19] <fabio> Hi everyone! ive bought an asus PU301LA and after install ubuntu the trackpad goes like crazy when i touch it shows and hides windows etc.
[20:20] <chemist^> Bah... how could i have deleted it? .. when i was installing kubuntu, the partition manager did not show any other partition except the windows partition and unallocated space
[20:20] <stangeland> chemist^, can i somehow see loaded config?
[20:20] <chemist^> could it be that the kubuntu installer did not recognize it and showed it as unallocated space?
[20:22] <Pharaoh2> squinty: Thanks, that also let me see the changelog to check if the rss issue was fixed :)
[20:22] <Jordan_U> chemist^: That doesn't sound likely, while there is a bug unfortunately where a corrupted partition table will show up as a completely "unallocated" drive in the installer, that wouldn't cause only a single partition to not be shown.
[20:24] <chemist^> Jordan_U this is the first time this happens to me...i had installed double-boot windows/ubuntu many times..i only had problems with windows overwriting the mbr or grub (don't know how it's actually called) IF I installed ubuntu first....learned my lesson, doing the other way around since then
[20:25] <Jordan_U> chemist^: I don't know what to tell you :(
[20:25] <stangeland> hi, i have put PasswordAuthentication no in my sshd_config and added public key to authorized_keys, but i am still being asked for password when ssh'ing. what am i missing?
[20:26] <chemist^> Jordan_U :( thanks anyway
[20:26] <chemist^> stangeland have you restarted the service?
[20:26] <stangeland> chemist^, yeah
[20:26] <Seveas> stangeland: pastebin the output of ssh -vvv yourhost.goes.here
[20:26] <epinky> is there any term for refering to an administrator that only monitors systems?
[20:27] <Seveas> stangeland: and the output of 'grep ssh /var/log/auth.log'
[20:27] <stangeland> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9720574/
[20:28] <chemist^> Jordan_U I really....but really don't feel like installing windows all over again :D and then again repairing the grub from the ubuntu live cd....such a drag
[20:28] <Seveas> (the second one is to be run on the host you're sshing to)
[20:28] <BluesKaj_> chemist^, a hint, it's best to use manual partitioning when installing dual boot setups, that method assures access to the correct partitions
[20:28] <chemist^> BluesKaj_ i do use the manual partitioning
[20:28] <chemist^> for many years now
[20:29] <BluesKaj_> chemist^, set mountpoints etc ?
[20:29] <Seveas> stangeland: looks like id_rsa is corrupted/broken
[20:29] <chemist^> always create an ext4 with boot on / and a swap partition....along side the already-installed windows
[20:29] <Jordan_U> BluesKaj_: chemist^: I actually usually give the opposite advice, go with automatic and you're less likely to make human mistakes (the installer is pretty darn good at doing the right thing WRT partitioning).
[20:29] <stangeland> Seveas, hmmm ok...but i just created it using ssh-keygen -t rsa
[20:30] <chemist^> BluesKaj_ yes, i told Jordan_U before I use this method for years now, never had any issues
[20:30] <stangeland> Seveas, should i try and create a new?
[20:30] <Seveas> stangeland: ah, then it's probably simply encrypted. Yeah, it's asking for the passphrase to your *key*
[20:30] <Seveas> (didn't read all the way down yet)
[20:30] <Seveas> stangeland: add it to your ssh-agent with ssh-add
[20:30] <stangeland> Seveas, mmm ok - but why is it asking that? i just want to avoid writing any password
[20:31] <Seveas> if you're running Ubuntu desktop, adding it to your agent will make it store that passphrase in your keychain so it'll be decrypted when you log in
[20:31] <Seveas> so run ssh-add once now (and type your password once) and then never again :)
[20:32] <stangeland> Seveas, ssh-add .ssh/id_rsa     i get Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.
[20:32] <Seveas> stangeland: then you're not running Ubuntu desktop.
[20:32] <BluesKaj_> Jordan_U, i prefer the manual method since i use both / and /home plus swap...I don't trust auto partitioning
[20:32] <stangeland> Seveas, mmm true i am on ubuntu with xfce. i dont like that unity stuff :(
[20:33] <Seveas> stangeland: and I don't know how xubuntu integrates this, I'm afraid.
[20:33] <stangeland> Seveas, hmmm damn :/
[20:33] <chemist^> Jordan_U i honestly think i will waste less time reinstalling windows and repairing grub with my live kubuntu cd, than trying to find a solution to fix the windoz boot partition
[20:33] <Seveas> stangeland: maybe try googling 'xubuntu ssh agent'
[20:34] <stangeland> Seveas, furthermore this is not my main user i am logged in with. i did sudo su compute before doing the ssh
[20:35] <Seveas> stangeland: ah, that definitely doesn't help. Try from a fresh terminal as your main user
[20:35] <stangeland> Seveas, hmmm ok - but the thing is i want this to be run as the compute user
[20:36] <stangeland> Seveas, what i want is the compute user to be able to ssh to compute@localhost without being prompted for any passwords
[20:36] <volkan> Hi, Is it possible to add "New Document" to popup menu in gnome shell?
[20:36] <Seveas> stangeland: let me guess, from a noninteractive process too?
[20:37] <BluesKaj_> chemist^, i didn't catch your issue exactly, could you explain again ?
[20:37] <stangeland> Seveas, mmm no thats not necessary
[20:37] <stangeland> Seveas, or what do you mean by that?
[20:37] <Seveas> stangeland: I mean that you may just want to store the key unencrypted (ssh-keygen -p ~/.ssh/id_rsa to decrypt, just don't enter a new passphrase)
[20:38] <stangeland> Seveas, aha ok, what does that do? does that store same private key in an unencrypted version?
[20:39] <Seveas> stangeland: yes.
[20:39] <Seveas> I'd also add a from=localhost to your authorized_keys entry in this case to limit the attack surface you open with this.
[20:41] <stangeland> Seveas, ack: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.
[20:42] <Fun> hi
[20:42] <Fun> what is analog of lubricant in linux?
[20:42] <Fun> *an analog
[20:43] <stangeland> Seveas, ahhh sry my bad...wrong err msg
[20:43] <stangeland> Seveas, it was: ssh-keygen -p .ssh/id_rsa  Too many arguments.
[20:43] <snwr34p3r> i have 3 screens cant get the 3rd to work, 1 vga to mb 1 dvi to mb 1 vga to pcie both gpus are ati any 2 screens work in whatever order just not 3 any help fixing this ?
[20:43] <Seveas> stangeland: my fault. ssh-keygen -p -f ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[20:44] <Seveas> snwr34p3r: does xrandr show all three?
[20:45] <snwr34p3r> yes and the display in sys settings shows all 3 but only 2 turn on if i turn 1 off the other turns on
[20:45] <stangeland> Seveas, ah nice - thanks :) where do i add that from=localhost in the auth_keys? Just in the end after the guests hostname?
[20:46] <Seveas> snwr34p3r: how do you turn them on/off?
[20:46] <ses1984> hi-- i need to connect to the console of my switch...in windows i would use hyperterminal, connected to COM1...how can i do this with the terminal emulators in ubuntu
[20:46] <snwr34p3r> i open system settings goto display and the 3 screens show i click one thats working and tick it off and the 1 that wouldnt turn on will come alive
[20:46] <Seveas> stangeland: your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys entry should look like this: from=localhost ssh-rsa AAAAB3N......
[20:47] <stangeland> Seveas, hmm when i put that i get permission denied
[20:47] <Seveas> snwr34p3r: try some xrandr commands (I'm afraid I have to refer you to the manpage for details, it's been a while since I had to mess with this)
[20:48] <Seveas> stangeland: that's at least a step further. Pastebin the output of grep ssh /var/log/auth.log and ssh -vvv localhost
[20:48] <squinty> ses1984:  apt-cache show minicom   (in a terminal)
[20:49] <dannymichel> A friend of mine is having issues with his Toshiba laptop and the screen flickering at the very top of the screen, No matter what drivers he installs or desktop environment he uses. He uninstalled Unity and tried a number of DEs
[20:49] <stangeland> Seveas, in the auth.log it says Bad options in /home/compute/.ssh/authorized_keys file, line 1: from=localhost ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAA
[20:49] <ses1984> thanks
[20:49] <Seveas> stangeland: intriguing. One sec.
[20:50] <eggbeater> danny, is there anything wrong with the hardware, or do you know that it's a software issue?
[20:50] <Prezident> Hello guys.
[20:50] <Prezident> Fnally i toke my time for upgrade my ubuntu 12.04 to the latest LTS version
[20:50] <Seveas> stangeland: looks like it needs to be from="localhost" and not from=localhost
[20:51] <Prezident> And now i getting this command from terminal once and then.
[20:51] <dannymichel> It's fine for him on Windows and OS X eggbeater
[20:51] <Prezident> no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[20:51] <Prezident> what this means?
[20:51] <Seveas> !pm | snwr34p3r
[20:51] <eggbeater> ok
[20:51] <dannymichel> only gets the flickering on Ubuntu and Mint eggbeater
[20:51] <stangeland> Seveas, ah hehe ok you are right...who would have known
[20:52] <Seveas> stangeland: the manpage :-)
[20:52] <Seveas> (though to be fair, it's in the ssh_config manpage, the last of the ssh related ones I looked at)
[20:52] <stangeland> Seveas, touche
[20:52] <Seveas> Prezident: what command are you running when you get this?
[20:54] <Prezident> I getting that message whe i do unzip or unrar mostly
[20:54] <Prezident> never happened on 12.04
[20:55] <Jordan_U> Prezident: Please pastebin the exact command you're running, and its complete output.
[20:56] <squinty> Prezident:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/477002/loadparm-c4864-leaking-memory   had the same problem here
[20:56] <Prezident> I see, so its samba.
[20:57] <sjMikem> anyone else having problems connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com when doing apt-get?
[20:57] <Prezident> Alright, pam-update seems worked!
[20:57] <Prezident> Thank you ALOT squinty
[20:57] <squinty> Prezident:  yw. :)
[20:58] <snwr34p3r> gonna rip this screen off and throw it out the damn window
[20:58] <bubbasaures> sjMikem, Run the apt-gets and pastebin all of it.
[20:59] <stangeland> Seveas, this is awesome :D my small local minicluster is working now hehehehe
[20:59] <snwr34p3r> 4 days of nothing im so done with it
[20:59] <Seveas> stangeland: enjoy!
[20:59] <stangeland> Seveas, thanks :)
[20:59] <Seveas> snwr34p3r: rants to /dev/null please, they're not very useful.
[20:59] <sjMikem> bubbasaures: http://pastebin.com/g84b9phg
[21:00] <bubbasaures> sjMikem, So what am I looking for?
[21:01] <bubbasaures> the O connect?
[21:01] <bubbasaures> 0
[21:01] <sjMikem> yeah it just hangs there
[21:01] <snwr34p3r> there has to be a way to make this damn thing work nothing seems to so far
[21:01] <Seveas> sjMikem: is your ipv6 connectivity perhaps broken? Can you ping6 the host?
[21:02] <bubbasaures> sjMikem, thanks, someone will get yah going. ;)
[21:02] <sjMikem> Seveas: ping6 just hangs too... let me try disabling ipv6
[21:02] <Seveas> sjMikem: before you do that, can you ping or mtr -4 the host?
[21:03] <sjMikem> seveas: regular ping works fine
[21:03] <sjMikem> what's best way to temporarily disable ipv6?
[21:04] <Seveas> sudo ip a d your::ipv6::address dev eth0
[21:04] <squinty> sjMikem:  network manager -> ipv6 tab
[21:11] <bynarie> whats the latest kernel supported in 14.10?
[21:12] <bubbasaures> bynarie, 3.16
[21:12] <Seveas> bynarie: <IP_ADDRESS>.24
[21:12] <Seveas> actually, <IP_ADDRESS>.29
[21:12] <bynarie> thank you
[21:13] <eggbeater> isn't that also the latest one?
[21:13] <bubbasaures> in  a supported release yes
[21:15] <sjMikem> seveas, squinty, bubbasaures: disabling ipv6 worked.  Thanks!
[21:15] <bubbasaures> cool
[21:15] <Seveas> eggbeater: the latest upstream release is 3.18 (and 3.19 reached rc4 already)
[21:16] <Seveas> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/refs/tags
[21:16] <estevemourad> #Opnewblood.fr
[21:24] <dannymichel> A friend of mine is having issues with his Toshiba laptop and the screen flickering at the very top of the screen, No matter what drivers he installs or desktop environment he uses. He uninstalled Unity and tried a number of DEs
[21:24] <theadmin> dannymichel: Ya sure it's not hardware?
[21:24] <bubbasaures> dannymichel, You on their computer?
[21:25]  * theadmin had issues with brightness being lower in a certain part of the screen
[21:25] <theadmin> So could be hardware related
[21:25] <dannymichel> I'm not on his computer, and i know its stupid of me to be in here getting help for his laptop when i don't have access to it, but i do know its fine on windows and os x theadmin bubbasaures
[21:25] <eggbeater> dannymichel: what kind of Toshiba laptop is it?
[21:25] <bubbasaures> removing unity is  not the best move either
[21:26] <bubbasaures> dannymichel, we can help best is all if you have direct access.
[21:27] <dannymichel> toshiba s75 a7334
[21:27] <dannymichel> i hear you bubbasaures
[21:28] <eggbeater> ok, mine is a tecra a8 dannymichel
[21:28] <bubbasaures> dannymichel, I would have them use a live and test the guest as a start to compare.
[21:28] <bubbasaures> guest on the install of course
[21:31] <dannymichel> makes sense Buntunub
[21:31] <dannymichel> bubbasaures
[21:34] <bubbasaures> might have to adopt that mistake, it's funny
[21:40] <designbybeck_> Anyone use LastPass and YubiKey NEO on Ubuntu?
[21:46] <designbybeck_> was debating on getting one
[21:46] <bekks> designbybeck_: For what?
[21:47] <designbybeck_> password management bekks
[21:47] <bekks> designbybeck_: Thats what Lastpass is for - not what a Yubikey is for.
[21:47] <Pinkamena_D> I am developing some experimental google glass apps for a childrens hospital. The .apk packaged must be installed manually and in the past I have had to walk someone through doing it on windows (quite a pain). MY boss and I would like to set up an ubuntu computer at the hospital which can be SSH'd into and update each google glass.
[21:48] <compdoc> you have a YubiKey?
[21:48] <designbybeck_> it is for a one time password and other 2nd layers of authentication  bekks
[21:48] <bekks> compdoc: Yes.
[21:48] <Pinkamena_D> networking wise, does anyone have an idea for accessing it which I could discuss with their IT?
[21:48] <designbybeck_> was thinking about ordering the new one with NFC... it's $50 though
[21:48] <bekks> designbybeck_: I do know what a yubikey is for - but it doesnt handle the actually management of password, at all.
[21:48] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: Do you already know how to push the apk from Ubuntu to the glass?
[21:48] <Pinkamena_D> yes
[21:49] <designbybeck_> right, sorry I didn't mean it was handling it, just aiding in it
[21:49] <ahrenstein> Can anyone recommend a really good Ultrabook that is extremely compatible with Ubuntu 14.04? Ideally a touch screen or something similar to the ASUS UX301LA but without the rebooting thermal issues :P
[21:49] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: And it involves someone physically connecting the glass to the Ubuntu machine?
[21:49] <Pinkamena_D> Their timescale is off of us by hours
[21:50] <Pinkamena_D> under usual circumstances they would plug in all of the glasses and I would install it 'overnight'
[21:50] <bubbasaures> ahrenstein, THe hardware is your issue not the ultrabook check hardware
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: Why involve yourself at all? Why not just write a script to do it?
[21:50] <bekks> designbybeck_: It will not aid in the management at all, it makes things more complicated, actually. The only use case I can think of using lastpass AND a yubikey is storing the private passphrase part in lastpass and the using that and the yubikey generated passcode for decrypting/login/etc.
[21:51] <Pinkamena_D> I currently have no server / connection in that building at all
[21:51] <bekks> Pinkamena_D: So you need a connection to that computer, first.
[21:51] <compdoc> bekks, do you store passwords on it?
[21:51] <designbybeck_> no compdoc it helps generate a one time password
[21:51] <Pinkamena_D> I guess this is more of a network question, sorry for asking here
[21:51] <bekks> compdoc: No. That would be - suboptimal.
[21:51] <ahrenstein> bubbasaures what do you mean? I read a few threads in Ubuntu forums and a review on the device as a linux laptop. All say it has some issue when in Linux that causes reboots that Windows doesn't have. Ideally I'm just looking for a good recommendation. System76 didn't seem that impressive.
[21:52] <Pinkamena_D> but yes, thats the idea
[21:52] <ahoneybun> does anyone still have a hp elitebook 2730p?
[21:52] <compdoc> yeah, I know it generates, but they mention encription also. so youre saying you cant store encripted docs on it
[21:52] <bubbasaures> ahrenstein, You need to just make sure the hardware in your choice is friendly, we don't advise on purchases is all.
[21:52] <ahoneybun> ahrenstein, there is thinkpenguin
[21:52] <ahrenstein> bubbasaures Ok.
[21:53] <ahrenstein> ahoneybun thanks. I shall check it out.
[21:53] <bubbasaures> not more than a few comments anyway
[21:53] <bekks> compdoc: No, I never said I cant. There are Yubikey versions which act as USB mass storages devices also. But storing your private pass phrase parts on it along with the generator device - thats like handing everyone a note with your entire password.
[21:53] <ahoneybun> ahrenstein, they have a really nice thin small notebook (I had it in my hands at a FOSSETCON)
[21:54] <ahrenstein> ahoneybun I'm browsing now.
[21:54] <ahoneybun> k
[21:56] <morsedl3> How do I change the icon associated with a file type in Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:57] <morsedl3> I have tried everything: Adding icon files to /usr/share/icons, inspecting the mime types (in /etc/mimetypes, in /usr/share/mime, etc.).
[21:57] <morsedl3> No matter what I do, the icon is always white / blank.
[21:58] <morsedl3> I had ReText installed for markdown and the icons were correct.  I tried Remarkable, another MD editor, but liked it less and uninstalled.
[21:59] <morsedl3> Ever since then, every MD document now has a blank / white icon (but ReText does work and is correctly associated, just not the icon).
[21:59] <morsedl3> I've even tried associogate, but that did not help.
[22:00] <morsedl3> If someone could just explain to me how HOW Ubuntu goes about finding an icon file, I could probably fix this.  But the whole MIME / icon thing in Ubuntu 12.04 seems a mess.
[22:00] <choked> morsedl3: You want the icon
[22:01] <morsedl3> This is for a master image for deployment, so I need to get these icons right for users.
[22:01] <morsedl3> choked: I want ANY icon at this point. :) If I can get that, I'm sure I can adjust as needed.
[22:03] <morsedl3> (back in moment, have to logoff and back on)
[22:03] <choked> morsedl3: try installing a different icon theme.
[22:04] <morsedl3> choked: thanks.  kind of tried that: logged in as newly-created user with default theme.  no joy there, either.
[22:04] <morsedl3> choked: always white / blank.
[22:04] <morsedl3> choked: have purged app (retext), reinstalled, does not help either.
[22:04] <choked> morsedl3: unity --reset-icons
[22:05] <epinky> !icons
[22:05] <morsedl3> choked: just did. no joy.
[22:06] <morsedl3> choked: (back in a moment, have to logoff)
[22:08] <epinky> this icon thing is always changing, well I suppose it's the natural GNOME evolution
[22:08] <FrankD> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 on a ProLiant G5 DL580 with an HP P400 using the cciss driver -- Ubuntu does not seem to recognize any of the drives (though they are there under /dev/cciss/c0d0 etc)
[22:08] <FrankD> any tips?
[22:10] <morsedl3> choked: well, now the icon is correct when I view it in Nautilus, and when I right-click on it and select Properties.  However, it's still white / blank when shown on the Desktop.
[22:11] <choked> morsedl3: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[22:12] <choked> morsedl3: then setsid unity
[22:12] <choked> morsedl3: or delete the icon and make a new one.
[22:15] <choked> morsedl3: what desktop are you using
[22:15] <morsedl3> choked: K, I just ran both.  No joy, same deal: blank on Desktop, correct in "Properties" and within Nautilus.  Created a new "test.md" file on the Desktop using various methods, i.e., touch, gvim, gedit, and retext: No change, same problem with new / different file.
[22:15] <choked> You have to logout morsedl3
[22:16] <morsedl3> choked: K, I suspected. Will try now, so back in a moment...
[22:17] <joehillen> anyone know what's going on with security.ubuntu.com?
[22:17] <fedora_newb> When running a command that asks for like a username and password, is there a way to adding that info to that command so it gets entered when ran?
[22:18] <Jordan_U> fedora_newb: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:19] <fedora_newb> Jordan_U not sure exactly
[22:19] <fedora_newb> This is more of a server question and not sure what they are running
[22:20] <Jordan_U> fedora_newb: What is the output of "lsb_release -r"?
[22:20] <Maltahl> I have some problems when im on a skype call on Ubuntu 14.04 since it uses Pulseaudio. When i turn up the music abit too much people in the call can heard the music like it they were listening to it via my own headset. Any help ?
[22:21] <morsedl3> choked: logging off and back on: no joy.  rebooting: no joy.
[22:21] <fedora_newb> Jordan_U, didn't even run it :/
[22:22] <fedora_newb> Just allows you to enter commands but its setupkinda like linux, so trying to figure out how one would pass the commands usually
[22:22] <choked> morsedl3: what desktop environment are you using. Unity?
[22:22] <morsedl3> choked: yes.
[22:22] <Jordan_U> fedora_newb: I don't understand what that means.
[22:23] <choked> morsedl3: so these are in the launcher bar not desktop.
[22:23] <k1l> fedora_newb: this is the ubuntu support. what system is that at all?
[22:23] <morsedl3> choked: no. *.md files visible on the Unity Desktop.
[22:24] <Jordan_U> fedora_newb: There is no generic solution, it depends on what specific commands you're trying to run, for what distro, and what version (as these things change which actions involve or don't involve policykit/selinux/apparmor etc.) .
[22:25] <morsedl3> choked: If I could just 'strace' the appropriate process, I suspect I could figure out what's off.  However, I have no idea what process handles the presentation of the desktop itself.  Compiz perhaps?
[22:25] <fedora_newb> Its built off sort of a linux platform just not of details. Anyways, on ubuntu, lets say 14.04, if I were to run any sort of command that would next ask for email and password, how could I add that info and pretty much replicate an enter key?
[22:25] <fedora_newb> If that makes sense.
[22:25] <jhutchins> fedora_newb: There are multiple conventions for doing that, it very much depends on the application being run.
[22:26] <Jordan_U> fedora_newb: If it's not Ubuntu, then you should join ##linux for generic linux support.
[22:26] <fedora_newb> kk
[22:26] <Maltahl> I have some problems when im on a skype call on Ubuntu 14.04 since it uses Pulseaudio. When i turn up the music abit too much people in the call can heard the music like it they were listening to it via my own headset. Any help ?
[22:26] <jhutchins> fedora_newb: <user>@<host> is pretty standard, but passwords vary a lot.
[22:26] <choked> morsedl3: these are documents or applications or both missing icon
[22:26] <NikolaiToryzin> Maltahl: Skype is horribly broken on Linux
[22:26] <k1l> fedora_newb: that really depends heavily on the service that is running. there is no generic answer to that. best is to see the support/community of the thing you are running thre
[22:27] <k1l> *there
[22:27] <morsedl3> choked: just plain text, standard markdown files.
[22:27] <jhutchins> Maltahl: Skype doesn't use pulseaudio.
[22:27] <Maltahl> jhutchins it does on my system tho...
[22:28] <jhutchins> Maltahl: Not really, it bypasses it.  Skype is also developed by Microsoft, so you pretty much have to use their support channels.
[22:28] <Maltahl> jhutchins it says in the settings that its controlled by pulseaudio
[22:29] <NikolaiToryzin> jhutchins: Microsoft won't support Skype on Linux for shit so he's screwed
[22:29] <morsedl3> choked: my problem does not concern launchers, whether in a panel or on the desktop.  For example, if I drag the ReText app to the Unity Desktop to make a shortcut, its icon is correct.  It's just the display of actual .md files stored the Desktop itself have white / blank icons.
[22:29] <choked> morsedl3: it shows in natilus. Right click select copy. Then paste on desktop
[22:30] <matteo> salve
[22:31] <morsedl3> choked: doing so created a "test (copy).md" file on the Desktop, also blank.
[22:31] <choked> Drop the icon in gedit
[22:32] <choked> Drop the icon in gedit morsedl3
[22:34] <morsedl3> choked: ? I don't understand what you mean.
[22:35] <choked> morsedl3: an icon is a text file. Drop an icon on a gedit window.
[22:35] <morsedl3> choked: K. that opens my test.md file in gedit, as expected.
[22:36] <morsedl3> choked: the icon next to the filename in gedit is correct
[22:37] <morsedl3> choked: but the desktop file is still white, even after making a simple edit and re-saving w/in gedit.
[22:39] <morsedl3> choked: I can even change the icon to some random png file w/in Nautulis and on the Unity Desktop, and it changes to what I set.  But when I select "Revert" (under Properties), it goes back to blank/white on Desktop (but everywhere else is correct).
[22:40] <choked> morsedl3: right click icon select properties. Uncheck executable. The drop it on credit again
[22:40] <choked> morsedl3: right click icon select properties. Uncheck executable. The drop it on gedit again
[22:41] <morsedl3> choked: it was never set to executable.  file mode has always been 600 (rw-----)
[22:41] <morsedl3> choked: again, just to be clear, it's not a launcher.
[22:46] <tonygaga> hey guys i can't start X from my usb, before it worked.. i installed it on the HDD now i want to boot from the usb again and there's a black screen...any idea why?
[22:46] <sage__> I am building a large datacenter using ubuntu snappy images, and I need a service that can manage docker containers (even better would be containers of different types), does ubuntu snappy work well with a particular service?
[22:46] <ikonia> sage__: is it wise to build a data center based on a technology that is not yet proven ?
[22:46] <tonygaga> startx gives me setversion 1.4 permission denied
[22:46] <ikonia> tonygaga: why are you running startx ?
[22:46] <bubbasaures> tonygaga, You sure you got grub in the right place and not on the usb?
[22:47] <arun> anyone here ever used puppet?
[22:47] <ikonia> arun: yes
[22:47] <sage__> ikonia: This is testing its future use
[22:47] <Seveas> arun: on a daily basis with thousands of servers :)
[22:47] <tonygaga> ikonia: because it was black and then i tried starting it from the shell
[22:47] <ikonia> sage__: so why would you deploy a large data center as a "test" ?
[22:48] <tonygaga> bubbasaures: yea... because it booted with grub without usb
[22:48] <arun> which guide is good ? http://www.unixmen.com/install-puppet-master-and-client-in-ubuntu/ or https://www.howtoforge.com/puppet-ubuntu-14.04 ??
[22:48] <ikonia> neither
[22:48] <ikonia> I would trust official puppet documention
[22:48] <sage__> ikonia: Well it's going on a test center first
[22:48] <arun> ikonia: for a sample test running?
[22:48] <ikonia> arun: yes
[22:48] <Seveas> the howtoforge one starts with editing /etc/hosts, it sucks
[22:48] <ikonia> arun: a test or a production run, why would you not use official documentation
[22:49] <arun> ikonia: i mean among these two..
[22:49] <ikonia> sage__: howtoforge = suck
[22:49] <bubbasaures> tonygaga, thanks, I see hits on the web, bit just not familiar with that error.
[22:49] <ikonia> arun: I would'nt use either
[22:49] <ikonia> arun: why limit it to those two when the official docs are great
[22:49] <Seveas> oh, and using 3rd party repos, nope, howtoforge is out.
[22:50] <tonygaga> bubbasaures: okay...well anything helps guys it's actually xubuntu
[22:50] <tonygaga> whatever im just gonna redo the startmedia usb
[22:50] <Seveas> the unixmen one only covers the install, it's not horrible (but still wants to mess with /etc/hosts)
[22:51] <Seveas> I'll echo ikonia: follow official docs. Except that those probably want you to install their packages. Ignore that and just apt-get install from the Ubuntu repos
[22:54] <arun> Seveas: is the Define  the  Server  in the  Puppet  Client  : section fine in unixmen? and what changes can we do for /etc/hosts stuffs u told ?
[22:56] <arun> Seveas: I mean puppetd.conf stuff, is it puppet.conf or puppetd.conf?
[22:57] <arun> hello Seveas u there?
[23:00] <arun> ikonia: u therE?
[23:00] <ikonia> yes ?
[23:00] <arun> ikonia:  is the Define  the  Server  in the  Puppet  Client  : section fine in unixmen? and what changes can we do for /etc/hosts stuffs u told ?
[23:00] <ikonia> arun: you where told not to use that guide
[23:01] <ikonia> if you want to use that guide and need help - ask the person who wrote the guide
[23:01] <arun> ikonia: yes, but the official is too long.. I wanted to get some short, just for installation...
[23:01] <ikonia> then you deal with it
[23:01] <ikonia> the official one is not long
[23:01] <ikonia> and if you can't be bothered to read it - you'll make a mess and not understand what you are doing
[23:02] <ikonia> as you are doing now
[23:02] <gry> arun: tell what you are trying to do please, and how you're trying to do it.
[23:02] <Seveas> arun: if you're not willing to read documentation, you shouldn't be paid to administer servers.
[23:02] <gry> arun: I'm sure this way you would get pointers from the people here.
[23:02] <Seveas> gry: he did, but wants to be spoonfed instead of making some effort.
[23:02] <ikonia> he wants to follow a bad guide
[23:02] <ikonia> has been advised not to
[23:03] <arun> Seveas: I am not paid for administering servers.. I wanted to know..
[23:03] <ikonia> is trying to do so still
[23:03] <ikonia> and doesn't understand what to do with the bad guide
[23:03] <gry> arun: there is #puppet where people may be able to help you in more detail if this channel considers spoon feeding not worth the effort.
[23:03] <gry> arun: ASK! I gave you 2 questions.
[23:03] <arun> ASK!
[23:03] <ikonia> it's not about spoon feeding, it's following a bad guide
[23:04] <bubbasaures> gry, spoon feeding is enabling a continuance of it.
[23:04] <ikonia> and refusing to read the "good" guide because it's "too long"
[23:04] <gry> arun: I mean, click here >> #puppet << and tell them the detail.
[23:04] <gry> arun: people here apparently don't want to help you with it. Sorry.
[23:04] <ikonia> people do want to help with it
[23:04] <arun> gry: no, its fine..
[23:04] <ikonia> but not with a guide that will not work well
[23:04] <gry> ikonia: then you would ask him what he wants to do, and give some pointers.
[23:05] <arun> ikonia: I can understand you man :D thanks
[23:05] <ikonia> gry: I have done
[23:05] <ikonia> he doesn't want to do the "good" solution
[23:05] <gry> ikonia: you didn't - you suggested to RTFM without asking what he wants to do.
[23:05] <ikonia> and he's explained what he wants to do - hence getting the good guide
[23:05] <ikonia> gry: he wants to setup a puppet master - as he said at the start
[23:05] <ikonia> and offered two guides - both of which won't do
[23:05] <ikonia> he refuses to read the good guide
[23:05] <Seveas> gry: he wants an FM, but is to lazy to read a good one
[23:05] <gry> ok, if we know what he wants, then give pointers what the correct solution is.
[23:06] <ikonia> the correct solution is to follow hte official puppet setup guide
[23:06] <gry> and bash him with that instead of bashing with the manual. :)
[23:06] <ikonia> as he's been suggested
[23:06] <ikonia> no
[23:06] <ikonia> no one is bashing him
[23:06] <gry> ahh. "setup" issue. I see.
[23:06] <ikonia> stop making stuff up
[23:06] <ikonia> the official puppet guide is the right way to do it
[23:06] <ikonia> it's good advice, not bashing or telling RTFM
[23:07] <gry> the problem was I missed what he wants. that's alright.
[23:07] <ikonia> yeah, but you see fit to make stuff up like "bashing" - so perhaps don't
[23:07] <ikonia> I'm pretty keen to help people get a good system, rather than a broken one
[23:07] <ikonia> I'm not telling someone that guide is bad for fun
[23:07] <UbuN2> he wanted to cut corners ... simple .
[23:07] <morsedl3> well, "choked" has left the building, but for completeness: i fixed the desktop icon problem i was having: using the program "alacarte", i found that the icon association was pointing to /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/retext.png.  Changing this to /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/retext.svg seems to have finally fixed the problem.
[23:08] <arun> guys, please lets not fight eachother.. ikonia thanks for the advice ...
[23:08] <UbuN2> nobody i fighting jut expressing
[23:08] <gry> arun: i apologize, i missed your question earlier; good luck
[23:08] <UbuN2> is*
[23:09] <arun> UbuN2: sorry to say in that word, I am not native english... mistake happens
[23:09] <arun> gry: cool thanks
[23:09] <UbuN2> ;)
[23:10] <arun> what is CA masters ?
[23:10]  * UbuN2 crawls back into his shell
[23:10] <ikonia> certficiate master
[23:10] <Maltahl> Ubuntu 14.04 Skype grabs my music if its too loud and sends it to the people in talking to directly. M$ was being dicks when i went there for support so here i am begging for a solution
[23:10] <Seveas> arun: usually the same as the puppetmaster. The host where you run puppetca
[23:11] <bubbasaures> Maltahl, No swearing ans how would you silence the music picked up by you mic?
[23:11] <gry> Maltahl: tried headphones so that the music isn't heard by the mic?
[23:11] <bubbasaures> s/and/you're
[23:11] <Maltahl> Im using a headset ( sorry for the swearing before)
[23:11] <bubbasaures> Maltahl, that has a mic.
[23:11] <Maltahl> Yes and its Jack in and Jack Out
[23:12] <bubbasaures> is it music in the headphones
[23:12] <Maltahl> Its not coming from the headset to the mic. Its like its coming from the sound card to the input on skype
[23:12] <Maltahl> via Pulseaudio
[23:13] <Jordan_U> Maltahl: Is this more than just the sound from your headphones making its way to your microphone, physically?
[23:13] <Maltahl> Like desktop audio and Mic gets mixed up or fusioned when the desktop audio is louder than wispering
[23:13] <bubbasaures> Maltahl, Excellent now we know what you mean, not sure myself, I would try anther headset were it me to test.
[23:13] <Maltahl> I have tried with inear buds and the built in mic of my laptop
[23:14] <Maltahl> and they can still hear it crystal clear
[23:15] <Jordan_U> Maltahl: #pulseaudio might be helpful, though I'm still not sure it's a pulseaudio problem.
[23:15] <Maltahl> Is there a way i can troubleshoot it to the source ?
[23:16] <eggbeater> Maltahl: check skype's settings and make sure audio in/out is set up correctly
[23:16] <Maltahl> i cannot change the audio in and out
[23:17] <eggbeater> ok
[23:17] <Maltahl> they are all set to Pulseaudio server (Local)
[23:17] <sawsa> hello?
[23:17] <eggbeater> hello
[23:17] <sawsa> i was wondering what programming language i should learn first
[23:17] <sawsa> c++, java, python, etc.?
[23:17] <sawsa> i'm new to the field, btw :/
[23:18] <Maltahl> Java because it teaches you to structure your code well as a beginner
[23:18] <Seveas> sawsa: ask your programming teacher :)
[23:18] <Maltahl> Else i would learn C# first
[23:18] <Seveas> sawsa: when without teacher, I'd recommend python, especially using the O'Reilly 'Learning Python' book as a starter.
[23:19] <sawsa> can that book be read online anywhere as an e-book, Seveas?
[23:19]  * julian-delphiki would recommend ruby, sawsa
[23:19] <Seveas> sawsa: I wouldn't be surprised if it could, but I used a physical copy myself :)
[23:20] <eggbeater> sawsa: imo I would do it like this: Java, Python, C++
[23:20] <Maltahl> Most newer books have codes for an ebook version
[23:20] <Seveas> sawsa: and as you can see other people have different preferences on what they'd do first. Of course my opinion is the best :-)
[23:20] <bubbasaures> +1
[23:20] <Seveas> (read: don't poll in here, inconsistency is what you'll get. At best :))
[23:20]  * eggbeater giggles
[23:21] <squinty> sawsa: if you join the #python irc channel here on freenode they have various url's for learning python
[23:23] <sawsa> which language should an aspiring cracker start out with?
[23:23] <squinty> sawsa: off topic
[23:24] <Seveas> sawsa: we don't support illegal activities in here.
[23:27] <xcyclist> Say, I'm having trouble with nload.  Does it have a known bug?
[23:27] <xcyclist> I'm seeing only the column of statistics Curr, Avg, Min, Max, Ttl, but not the character graphic.
[23:29] <tonygaga> ok so... following scenario : i want to migrate my dad's HDD to an SSD with dualboot. he has only the stock win7 on his hdd but there are 3 partitions. the main partition, the rescue and the hidden 100mb part. i dd'ed the main on the SSD and tried to boot without success which didn't surprise me, because the mbr is missing. so i thought i'd just install ubuntu and it would fix it. i choose 'install ubuntu with win7' and tried to boot . gru
[23:29] <morsedl3_> retraction: (just for the record): using alacarte did NOT fix the blank-default-desktop-icon problem after all (I forgot I had manually changed my test document's icon; upon pressing 'Revert', the problem re-appeared.
[23:29] <bubbasaures> morsedl3_, This stuff needs to have context, not just random.
[23:30] <xcyclist> Nevermind.  I just wasn't getting anything because I had no traffic.  Oh well.
[23:31] <blingz> yo
[23:31] <blingz> anybody around?
[23:31] <bubbasaures> !bootinfo | tonygaga run this on that computer and pot the url of the paste
[23:31] <squinty> no  just a couple of skinnies and squares
[23:31] <bubbasaures> put*
[23:31] <eggbeater> yaup
[23:33] <tonygaga> sry didn't say what my ACTUAL question is... is it EVEN possible to copy the main C partition from a bought laptop to another HDD and make it bootable again?
[23:33] <bubbasaures> tonygaga, THat hidden partition is part of the boot, do you have a recovery or install disc?
[23:33] <tonygaga> bubbasaures: yup
[23:34] <tonygaga> oh install
[23:34] <ikonia> tonygaga: the guys in ##windows can help you clone the C drive to a new disk and update the boot loader
[23:34] <Nakkel> Hi, I'm having a really weird problem connecting to a remote VNC. When I connect (tried with krdc/remmina/xtight...) all I get is my *local* screen which shouldnt be possible as no VNC server is running locally. Also the remote acknowledge the connection so I'm really not connectin to localhost. Halp?
[23:34] <bubbasaures> tonygaga, clone the whole shebang with clonezilla, resize the part you can to fit on the SSD, clonezilla saves the mbr.
[23:35] <bubbasaures> so you can fit
[23:35] <nobody___> hi can someone tell me how to Force Intel Video mode as boot parameter in grub men
[23:35] <tonygaga> but do i even need a boot load when i install ubuntu with grub?
[23:36] <tonygaga> i mean can't i just boot windows (only main part) with grub ?
[23:36] <bubbasaures> tonygaga, windows has to have the right files C alone may not have them, if you ran the script I asked we would know a lot more, y=this is a windows issue though, I'm on the channel.
[23:36] <ikonia> tonygaga: the windows bootloader loction needs updating
[23:36] <nobody___> how do i Force Intel Video mode as boot parameter in grub menu?
[23:37] <ikonia> force intel video mode ?
[23:37] <SynrGy> I'm assisting a friend who upgraded her macbook pro retina from trusty to utopic. it boots to the graphical login, but upon logging in takes us to a black screen, and then everything's unresponsive.
[23:38] <SynrGy> cant fn-ctrl-alt-f1 or get the system's attention in any way after this.
[23:38] <bubbasaures> SynrGy, No fn
[23:38] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Maybe -> i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 <- ; but, what is the issue for better advise.
[23:38] <nobody___> this is what im trying to do, but i dont unstand how to do it can you help me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2191109
[23:38] <SynrGy> bubbasaures: on a macbook pro? yes. adding fn seems to work.
[23:39] <SynrGy> bubbasaures: just not after the login failure
[23:39] <tonygaga> ikonia: bubbasaures: ok i think i got it... fuken windows.. that's why i'm using linux for over 5y
[23:39] <SynrGy> bubbasaures: at the login screen, fn-ctrl-alt-f1 switches to virtual console 1
[23:39] <SynrGy> and fn-ctrl-alt-f7 back to the graphical login
[23:39] <chakka> Is anyone else having problems with UEFI boot after upgrading to vmlinuz-3.13.0-44-generic
[23:39] <chakka> ?
[23:39] <chakka> I cant boot
[23:39] <SynrGy> but after logging, in, black screen. and then can't switch virtual consoles anymore.
[23:39] <bubbasaures> SynrGy, maybe on a mac, never had one, it is ubuntu, that is all I know.
[23:39] <chakka> if I choose vmlinuz-3.13.0-43-generic from the boot list, I can boot
[23:39] <SynrGy> bubbasaures: mac keyboards are weird
[23:40] <bubbasaures> I suspect thaqt
[23:40] <bubbasaures> that*
[23:40] <chakka> weirdbeard
[23:40] <SynrGy> so none of this sounds familiar? this is not my first bbq, by the way :)
[23:40] <bubbasaures> SynrGy, gotta have some patience is all, this is free help.
[23:40] <SynrGy> plenty of experience with debian, just not quite as much with ubuntu or macs
[23:41] <SynrGy> naturally.
[23:42] <bubbasaures> chakka, What is your definition of "I can't boot" lots of scenarios, give us yours.
[23:42] <chakka> I get stuck at the initramfs
[23:42] <chakka> it looks like its loading vmlinuz and initramfs, then it hangs, and I get dropped to the grub prompt
[23:43] <bubbasaures> chakka, I would run a apt-get -f install to make sure everything got installed first thing.
[23:43] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Arbitrarily following 'general' commands found on the internet is not a good thing to do. What issue are you attempting to address ?
[23:43] <Bobbo> Hey, so I'm hoping someone could help me please. I've installed Ubuntu 14.04 over my old system (formatted /, kept /home from 12.04/14.04), but I've been having a problem after login; the system hangs with background and cursor, I can still access other terminals (via Ctrl+Alt+F#), but right click and keyboard shortcuts (such as Ctrl+Alt+T) don't do anything.
[23:43] <chakka> apt-get -f install doesnt show anything to do
[23:44] <nobody___> screen tearing when i play videos
[23:45] <bubbasaures> chakka, Where are you on the install to run it a TTY,
[23:45] <Maltahl> ¨found a solution... its the headset for some wierd reason
[23:45] <chakka> Ive been using the system for a while, it all works fine
[23:45] <Valduare> hey guys I got a touchscreen monitor given to me - has serial interface - plugged it in and compiled drivers for it elo single touch     then ran sudo screen /dev/ttyUSB0    and I see stuff output when I touch the screen!! woot     but its not moving the mouse lol
[23:45] <SynrGy> bubbasaures: what's thrown me here is if it were a graphics driver problem, i'd expect it to die at the login screen, not after when i login. and if it were a desktop problem i'd expect it to perhaps fail to login, but not go to a black screen and leave the system unresponsive. wracking my brains to try to form a plan to troubleshoot.
[23:45] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: A leftover " /etc/X11/xorg.conf " from a proprietary graphics driver ?
[23:46] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: so... `sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo reboot`?
[23:46] <bubbasaures> chakka, Not sure why that kernel would be doing this sounds like you know the text boot, others may have a better idea.
[23:46] <chakka> now that I did an "  aptitude purge linux-image-3.13.0-44-generic"  I dont see that update anymore. weird.
[23:46] <Valduare> log says failed to connect to Xdisplay
[23:46] <chakka> are you on the latest kernel for ubunutu? What version are you on?
[23:47] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Possible .. what are you running now for a graphics set and a releted driver ?
[23:47] <bubbasaures> 3.13.0-43 chakka
[23:47] <chakka> ok, so you havent seen a -44 upgrade ?
[23:47] <chakka> I wonder where that came from.
[23:47] <chakka> need to look at my apt sources
[23:47] <bubbasaures> chakka, I'm not using the main server are you?
[23:48] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9721650
[23:48] <SynrGy> hm. installing an ssh server so i can tail some logs up until it crashes
[23:49] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: Plan is to replace nouveau with the proprietary driver once I actually get it working. :3
[23:49] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Screen tearing .. OK, what graphics set do you have .. and related driver .. -> sudo lshw - C display | pastebinit <- . May have to install the 'pastebinit' tool .
[23:49] <SynrGy> ah. it's using nouveau ...
[23:49] <squinty> chakka:  there is a 44 available
[23:50] <bubbasaures> SynrGy, I would not follow err I say jokingly logic, gotta use scientific method is all, a graphic issue can be from grub on.
[23:50] <bubbasaures> your*
[23:51] <SynrGy> my expectations are only based on past experience, not logic
[23:51] <SynrGy> it does not follow from my past observations the future problems will be the same :)
[23:51] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: Just checked, I don't actually have an xorg configuration file (only xorg.conf.failsafe). Hurmm
[23:51] <SynrGy> i'm willing to bet nouveau *might* not be as solid on this platform as nvidia-current
[23:51] <bubbasaures> SynrGy, big failure I'm afraid is all, would you ask your doctor to work this way, or any one.
[23:52] <bubbasaures> any way NEXT
[23:52] <SynrGy> um? this isn't open heart surgery. it's just a computer. i'm following hunches
[23:52] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Presently now, I do not know. As you do have the open source driver loaded .. Have you looked to see what is in the control file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" if it even exists ?
[23:52] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: doesn't exist
[23:53] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Sorry did not catch your last in time ... Humm .. What results if you boot to recovery mode from grub's advanced boot options ? From there maybe we can install the proprietary driver ?
[23:54] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: you mean, drop to root shell prompt or failsafeX?
[23:54] <Jeroen1> Hi, I got a FTP on my ubuntu server but I don't get in using FileZilla. Now am I worried that I've got the wrong password / username. How could I find that out?
[23:55] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Yeah .. "enable networking" to provide r/w access to the partition .
[23:55] <nobody___> http://pastebin.com/AnK8Jkqe
[23:56] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Look'n at your http://pastebin.com/AnK8Jkqe .
[23:56] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: Then the big question, which driver? XD I tried the nvidia-current package earlier to no avail; but I've done another reinstall since then (so much messing around with packages, ugh).
[23:58] <nobody___> im a noob so i dont know what to do with this
[23:58] <chakka> just logged a bug