  This is not the usual behavior for wsky/sexyboy, so it may not really be him.  Maybe a friend got a hold of his computer.
[17:15] <teward> can someone watch #ubuntu and see if they can banforward a broken client connection to ##fix_your_connection?
[17:22] <rww> details would have been nice, I'm not seeing it :\
[17:44] <genii> Maybe they just mean in general or something.
[17:45] <rww> i could CTCP everyone and banforward all the mIRC users
[17:45] <rww> then blame teward for it
[17:45] <rww> would be fun
[17:45] <genii> Bored today? ;)
[17:45] <rww> yes
[18:13] <genii> @comment 64686 hsfplus alias
[18:33] <genii> What the... <marklite> Hi, I've just upgraded to ubuntu 14.10 but I'm having trouble trying to revert back to syslinux as my bootloader
[18:33] <rww> WHAT YEAR IS IT
[18:34] <rww> but yeah, there's been an upsurge in syslinux usage in Linux land for some reason recently
[18:34] <rww> i bet it's Arch's fault somehow
[19:36] <rww> !plasma5
[19:36] <Pici> plasma5 is <reply>  Kubuntu Plasma5 is in tech preview, thanks for testing,
[19:36] <Pici>                   if you find a bug you can also check it with kubuntu-ci images for latest builds
[19:36] <Pici> oops
[19:36] <rww> good job Pici
[19:36] <rww> I was going to grammar it anyway, I'll do it
[19:36] <Pici> okay
[19:36] <Tm_T> but but
[19:37] <genii> Should it be a global or just for the #k channels?
[19:37] <rww> global should be fine
[19:37] <rww> is there a URL for an ISO, or a package name, or whatever?
[19:37] <Tm_T> just #k would be sufficient but global is beter IMO
[19:37] <Tm_T> better
[19:37] <Tm_T> rww: yes, moment
[19:38] <Tm_T> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/current/
[19:38] <Tm_T> no release other than beta2
[19:38] <rww> okies
[19:39] <rww> !plasma5 is <reply> Kubuntu Plasma 5 is a tech preview. To test it out, see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/current/ . If you find a bug, you can also check it with kubuntu-ci images for latest builds.
[22:02] <genii> Pretty sure troll alert on eVangList in #u , but I'm heading out shortly
[22:02] <genii> Doesn't seem like hsf
[22:26] <genii> @comment 64690 Repeatedly offtopic and warned
 everything is fucked up, I need some help
[23:30] <bazhang> aka 'roseypalm'
[23:40] <WhiteCrane> bazhang, NOOOO WAAA
[23:40] <WhiteCrane> HOW LONG HAVE I BEEN DOING THIS FOR?
[23:40] <WhiteCrane> TELL ME


[22:08] <eigma> zsquareplusc: cool, thakns for the tip
[22:08] <shadowwulf> nimbus, is there a way to make the game go to a windowed mode ?
[22:08] <nimbus> so these problems only occur in windowed mode?
[22:09] <methods> why isn't there a preference tool for managing boot modules ?
[22:09] <guntbert> DrHalan: not sure if I understand your needs: you can have your web-server listen on any port, and of course you can put a link with that port in the url into any web-page, but (as an aside) you should learn a little about networking and security before writing your own server
[22:09] <shadowwulf> nimbus, the problem happens in full screen mode ,... if the game starts windowed ... everything is fine
[22:10] <nimbus> shadowwulf, sounds like an issue with the refresh rate.
[22:10] <DrHalan> guntbert, what exactly do you think is important to learn ?
[22:11] <koshar1> methods there is, the modules file and the modules blacklist. otherwise initrams
[22:11] <shadowwulf> nimbus,  know of a way to fix it ? or a hotkey to make a game go windowed mode ?
[22:11] <whyameye> why would a 32 bit library crash in a 64 bit os env.?
[22:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot
[22:12] <methods> koshar1: yea but this is needed for a non command based user.... and where is this information in the handbook ?
[22:12] <guntbert> DrHalan: not one thing exactly, only "a little server" in the big bad world of hackers,rootkits,spambots,... seems a bit scary :)
[22:12] <Guest73448> how do I limit the amount of operation choices on the startup screen???   I have 8 for ubuntu
[22:12] <dr_willis> Guest73448,   You mean the GRUB boot menu?
[22:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest73448 gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:13] <Guest73448> yes and thx
[22:13] <zsquareplusc> rather sounds like too many old kernels
[22:13] <whyameye> ok what IRC channel might help me sort through running 32 bit binaries in a 64 bit OS?
[22:13] <nimbus> I am not sure, shadowwulf. I am not sure I understand the problem but I would next try to look at the monitor settings (resolution, refresh)
[22:13] <dr_willis> Guest73448,  menu.lst has an option for the # of kernels to show.. You can set it to some # like 2 or 3, and rerun 'sudo update-grub'
[22:13] <Balau> Guest73448 you could apt-get remove old linux images
[22:13] <_cb> i am going to do a fresh install of Ibex on top of Heron. I am saving my /Home and /etc folders. Do I use the GUI or is there a command that will work better? (Do I need to worry about 'hidden files?')
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot > whyameye
[22:14] <Akiva> Hello everyone, I have a slightly off topic question/request... I recently moved and have a really terrible internet connection... I run Ubuntu (of course) an am in desparate need of some sort of solo games to play on my pc when I need to decompress. can anyone make any suggestions? Please, no COD4 and such. as my system just isn't good enough/
[22:14] <koshar1> methods man modules is the information,
[22:14] <dr_willis> _cb,  how are you doing a 'fresh install' 'on top of'  ?   - why not just do a clean install?
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !games > Akiva
[22:14] <zsquareplusc> _cb: "cp -ax" makes archive copies, recursive, but it wont cross mount points
[22:15] <Akiva> I am well open to various styles of games, but like I said, it must be able to be played offline
[22:15] <fushorts> what is the folder that the mouse pointers are stored in?
[22:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Akiva I like sauerbratten and frozen bubble etc
[22:15] <dr_willis> Akiva,  freecol, and wesnoth are worth playing also. :)
[22:15] <_cb> dr_willis I meant a clean install. I am going to delete all the Heron partitions, install Ibex and copy /home /etc back
[22:15] <Akiva> ubottu: Sorry, let me clarify, I don't need them to be open source, etc. not your typical games roundup on an Ubuntu thread... It can require WINe and a purchase
[22:16]  * Akiva was duped by ubutto
[22:16] <nimbus> all hail technoviking
[22:16] <dr_willis> Akiva,  i can also get most of the PopCap type casual games to wortk with wine also
[22:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Akiva See the link I gave .. asking what games are good is not a real support issue
[22:16] <zsquareplusc> _cb: when your partitioning, conside putting home on a separate partition. one thing less to care about next time (wont save you from backupping though)
[22:16] <Technoviking> hail nimbus
[22:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Technoviking nimbus   OT
[22:17] <fushorts> anyone know where the mouse pointers are kept?  what folder they reside in?
[22:17] <DrHalan> guntbert: but what do you mean i can't buy URLs?
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> DrHalan But a universal Resource locator?
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> buy
[22:17] <shrapnel> it looks like Intrepid now allows number pad keys to repeat in "mouse keys" mode, which basically makes mouse keys useless
[22:17] <_cb> Currently I have home on a separate partition. Will Ibex discover it?
[22:17] <Akiva> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks, I will check it, but most of these games leave a lot to be desired.
[22:18] <Akiva> Wesnoth is fun for a bit but horrible incomplete
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > Akiva
[22:18] <_cb> zsquareplusc, Currently I have home on a separate partition. Will Ibex discover it?
[22:18]  * zsquareplusc has made a gpxe boot that runs the network install of ubuntu with just 200kB. but where would i put that online now..
[22:18] <shrapnel> when you hold an arrow key down and it starts to repeat, mouse keys interprets it as rapid keypresses, making the cursor move *super* *slow*
[22:18] <Akiva> Thakns all
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> _cb You will probably need to point ibex to it
[22:18] <guntbert> DrHalan: what you *can* buy is a domain name, though
[22:18] <shrapnel> bug
[22:18] <zsquareplusc> _cb: you can tell it to use in the installer.
[22:19] <jokkaa> How do i open pictures from the terminal?
[22:19] <shrapnel> jokkaa: try 'eog filename.jpg'
[22:19] <shrapnel> jokkaa: or 'gimp filename.jpg'
[22:20] <zsquareplusc> jokkaa: text console only or within X
[22:20] <Balau> jokkaa: "gnome-open filename" works wonders on many types of file
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> jokkaa Do you have gui or just cli
[22:20] <jokkaa> thx worked
[22:21] <Texou> hi
[22:21] <Maveas> Texou, hi?
[22:21] <btoogood> hi there
[22:22] <Texou> did someone heard of vibuntu 1.1  release?
[22:22] <macjason0607> guys .. how do i make it so that every application that i open up stays the size that i want it ?
[22:22] <Jared555> is ebox a good control panel when you can get it installed?
[22:22] <Morydd> I'm having some trouble getting NFS shares working. The server is Debian Sid, Client is Hardy. No changes have been made on the server recently.
[22:22] <benbloom> after reboot, I have to run "#ifconfig eth1 down" before nm will connect to that device. eth1 (my wireless card) is not mentioned in my /etc/network/interfaces file. how is ifconfig bringing it up in the first place? how do I get it to be handled by nm?
[22:23] <methods> koshar1:  yea but this wans't done for me automaticlaly when i added the driver through teh restricted driver tools adn then it's not explained anywhere in the handbook so how does a normal person know what to do ....
[22:23] <deever> is there a way to ifup a bridge without any children?
[22:23] <deever> in /etc/network/interfaces, bridge_ports cannot be omitted or left empty
[22:23] <_cb> On Heron, based on a book I read,  I had a /home, /boot, /(root), (swap), /home,/tmp, /usr, /var partitions. Which should I 'blow out' prior to doin an Ibex install? Should I add an /etc partition?
[22:24] <Niiklas> anyone know which song this is in the background http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pop0eAUbUak
[22:24] <kate__> bye bye
[22:25] <macjason0607> i don't hear anything
[22:25] <zsquareplusc> Morydd: you provide more details?
[22:25] <powert001> tonyyarrusso: are you there?
[22:25] <osotogari> 'lo all. Has anyone seen a problem with audacious and playing files over a smb share??
[22:25] <benbloom> Niiklas: it's enya
[22:27] <Morydd> zsquareplusc: the only other thing I'm seeing is in /var/log/messages "Dec  8 12:46:03 ophelia kernel: [ 7932.742209] rpcbind: server locutis not responding, timed out"
[22:27] <moepman> i have a problem here, my sister has ubuntu hardy running, and everytime the "save as..." dialog should show up, the program that started this dialog produces a segfault, what can i do? i have no access to the computer atm, but ill try your hints tomorow
[22:27] <malv> is there a bug in the alternate 64 bit installer which gives you this error saying that you need to insert a cd?
[22:28] <Morydd> ophelia is the client, locutis the server
[22:28] <benbloom> Niiklas: it's called "Only Time" by Enya
[22:28] <osotogari> 'lo all. Has anyone seen a problem with audacious and playing files over a smb share??
[22:28] <Guest73448> dr_willis menu.lst....  where is it located?  I cant do it hack sparrows way///
[22:28] <Jack_Sparrow> benbloom Please dont encourage ot discussion
[22:29] <Morydd> I'm able to access locutis vis ssh, and I restarted portmap, nfs-kernel-server, and nfs-common on the server.
[22:29] <jimmy__> When i try to boot ubuntu 8.10 it hangs or freezes then
[22:29] <jimmy__> i have to hold space bar to finish boot
[22:29] <ruiz> ruiz
[22:29] <nikin> hi. I want to ise qemu to havea running backup of the system.. if i know right dd-ing the harddrive will do the trick... but theproblm is that not all the harddriveis full with partitions.. and i want to backup the drive without the empty spacewith dd. Any ideaas howto do that?
[22:29] <benbloom> !offtopic > Niiklas
[22:29] <macjason0607> strange my sound isn't working
[22:29] <zsquareplusc> Morydd: and exportfs on the server lists your directory and ip range for the client
[22:29] <powertool08> Can anyone here help me set up a PXE clonezilla server?
[22:29] <jimmy__> hello
[22:29] <jimmy__> hypnos
[22:30] <btoogood> jimmy__: hi
[22:30] <jimmy__> I am trying to make contact
[22:30] <jimmy__> Btoogood
[22:30] <zsquareplusc> powertool08: they have a small howto on their website
[22:30] <benbloom> back to my ontopic question-- after reboot, I have to run "#ifconfig eth1 down" before nm will connect to that device. eth1 (my wireless card) is not mentioned in my /etc/network/interfaces file. how is ifconfig bringing it up in the first place? how do I get it to be handled by nm?
[22:30] <macjason0607> as far as my sound not playing .. should i dmesg the output ?
[22:30] <Morydd> zsquareplusc: yes. /home/sean      <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>
[22:30] <powertool08> zsquareplusc: I've looked at it and I have some questions it didn't answer
[22:31] <Morydd> Note that this NFS share worked previously.
[22:31] <moepman> i have a problem here, my sister has ubuntu hardy running, and everytime the "save as..." dialog should show up, the program that started this dialog produces a segfault, what can i do? i have no access to the computer atm, but ill try your hints tomorow
[22:31] <samile> macjason0607: try devil's pie its in the repositories
[22:31] <moepman> will maybe anybody answer me sometimes?
[22:31] <Guest73448> dr_willis   does it matter what version I am using ...  kubuntu 8.10   64 bit
[22:31] <deever> is there a way to ifup a bridge without any children?
[22:31] <deever> in /etc/network/interfaces, bridge_ports cannot be omitted or left empty
[22:31] <Balau> macjason0607: it is possible that two program are trying to access the audio at once, for example Totem and a flash plugin in firefox
[22:32] <chupy> why firefox in ubuntu run so slow??? all ubuntu is so slow more than windows
[22:32] <zsquareplusc> Morydd: and your client has an ip of that range?
[22:32] <DrHalan> chupy, yeah thats what i think sometimes too
[22:32] <Morydd> yes. <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:32] <chupy> it crashes a lot
[22:32] <Scunizi> chupy: your video driver might not be set up correctly.. it's typically not ubuntu but something else in the system that slows it.
[22:32] <Balau> moepman: what software gives her segfaults? you can try to run the program in the terminal, it should output some errors.
[22:32] <macjason0607> did somone say something ?
[22:32] <zsquareplusc> Morydd: you try mount and not nfs urls?
[22:33] <zsquareplusc> powertool08: its off topic here. dont they have a channel?
[22:33] <chupy> maybe is my new mouse?
[22:33] <macjason0607> did somone say anything about my sound problem ?
[22:33] <chupy> i put it with the best speed and in the manual it says that it makes slow computer
[22:33] <powertool08> zsquareplusc: if they do I don't know what it is, #clonezilla and #drbl don't exist
[22:34] <Balau> macjason0607: it is possible that two programs are trying to access the audio at once, for example Totem and a flash plugin in firefox
[22:34] <Morydd> zsquareplusc: I get: /usr/local/sbin/mount.nfs: not using string
[22:34] <Morydd> mount.nfs: mount to NFS server 'locutis' failed: timed out, retrying
[22:34] <Scunizi> chupy: could be...
[22:34] <macjason0607> yea
[22:34] <macjason0607> i just changed some settings
[22:34] <macjason0607> wierd
[22:35] <meoblast001> how do i install xulrunner so i can get  No package 'mozilla-xpcom' found to stop happening
[22:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest73448 Hack Sparrow..   You are on thin ice.
[22:35] <zsquareplusc> powertool08: #etherboot is sometimes helpfule if you are using it or gpxe, otherwise /J #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:35] <jimmy__> hello looking for help
[22:35] <Scunizi> Jack_Sparrow: someone morphing your nick?
[22:35] <meoblast001> i installed xulrunner-1.9-dev
[22:35] <jimmy__> my 8.10 ubuntu hangs on booting
[22:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Scunizi No. just being rude
[22:36] <Guest73448> hack???   I just am looking for an alternate way to fix this problem.. not tring to hack anyone
[22:36] <osotogari> 'lo all. Has anyone seen a problem with audacious and playing files over a smb share??
[22:36] <DrHalan> lol
[22:36] <zsquareplusc> Morydd: beyond my knowledge..
[22:36] <jimmy__> i have to push space bar to get it to boot
[22:36] <powertool08> zsquareplusc: ok, thanks
[22:36] <jimmy__> hello
[22:36] <Morydd> zsquareplusc:  thanks for the help anyway
[22:37] <Guest73448> jack_sparrow  the list came up but what do I do with it
[22:37] <DrHalan> jimmy__: run in recovery mode and look waht the console output is
[22:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest73448 <Guest73448> dr_willis menu.lst....  where is it located?  I cant do it hack sparrows way///          Is what I am talking about
[22:37] <martin-de-1983> hi, is here anyone who uses a canon ip4000r using cups?! i tried to install the printer but can not print ...
[22:37] <retour> need help with mkudffs and DVD-RAM to format it to full capacity
[22:37] <zsquareplusc> jimmy__: heh, i also have a box that requires to press a key. but its cause of the old XT keyboard connected to PS2
[22:37] <jimmy__> thanks dr halan
[22:37] <Rolaulten> hello...fun little things, I'm trying to install a script (for random wallpapers)...However I have the small issue that I dont know how to run scripts from the command line
[22:37] <jurtti> does anyone here know about installing ubuntu eee from usb?
[22:37] <JON5000> I am using samba and succesfully shareing local folders with windows pc's on the network.  however, unable to share a usb drive which is fat32.  all permissions and ownership correct.  its mounted, etc.  is it possible?
[22:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !eeepc > jurtti
[22:37] <Guest73448> jack_sparrow...   hahahaha  ever hear of a typo?   But I like it
[22:37] <Texou> well I wondered if on vibuntu 1.1 there was speech synthetiser; I dont find any info about this
[22:37] <jimmy__> this is a HP laptop
[22:37] <macjason0607> Balau, .. strange thing .. i just opened up youtube and my sound isn't playin .. what do you think could be using the sound driver ?
[22:37] <meoblast001> how do i install mozilla-xpcom... what is the ubuntu package name
[22:38] <macjason0607> i don't think i have anything open right now
[22:38] <osotogari> @ jurtti: have done it recently
[22:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest73448 Not laughing here
[22:38] <jimmy__> I will check in recovery mode
[22:38] <samile> Rolaulten: ./***scriptname*** be careful
[22:38] <jurtti> jack_sparrow: thanks!
[22:38] <gnutron> Morydd: iirc, You can't run NFS without the server's portmap and NFS daemons running
[22:39] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  huh? menu.lst is in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:39] <Guest73448> oh please,,,   if you think I said hack on purpuse than you must be pms in...  Nothing was ment by the TYPO!
[22:39] <Rolaulten> samile: just enter the path to the sscript - /home/user/script?
[22:39] <Morydd> gnutron: I believe they are running.
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> dr_willis I am aware of that
[22:39] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  then what was the question? I missed somthing.
[22:39] <Balau> macjason0607: maybe there's another application that is hanged. Try to log off and log in again from the system and open only firefox
[22:39] <samile> Rolaulten: yes the script must have executable permissions though
[22:39] <moepman> Balau: all programs osing the gnome save as dialog crash whe using it, the message on the console is just a segfault
[22:39] <macjason0607> ok
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> dr_willis His typo on my name was a bit convienient..
[22:40] <Guest73448> so does this mean you wont help me???
[22:40] <Rolaulten> samile: yea, I did that part with chmod
[22:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest73448 If you mean me.. no
[22:40] <samile> Rolaulten: what output did you get when running the script
[22:40] <Guest73448> my goodness,  I typo all the time the h is right next to the j JACK get over it
[22:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !who > Guest73448
[22:40] <Morydd> gnutron: do you know a way to check if they are running?
[22:41] <Rolaulten> samile: give me a sec to pastbin this
[22:41] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  heh :) ok
[22:41] <gnutron> Morydd: ps aux  should tell, use sudo to insure you see it all.
[22:42] <Rolaulten> samile: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m39f580bd
[22:42] <Balau> moepman: you can try "dpkg-reconfigure nautilus", it should reset some configurations.
[22:42] <Morydd> gnutron: yes. portmap and (several instances of) nfsd show up.
[22:42] <Jared555> what is involved in getting mysql 5.1 up and running on ubuntu?
[22:42] <gnutron> Morydd: try googling it, ubuntu does things differently.
[22:42] <Guest73448> TO ALL looking for help please read......    watch your typo's there are some that are exceptionally sensitive and will not help you  if you make a typo... Have a nice day
[22:42] <Rolaulten> samile: bah, just ment lines8 and 9 but oh well
[22:43] <JFC1993> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JFC1993 Please help with triple integrals
[22:43] <LifesaGarden>  I want to use bitpim for my cellphone but the help files call for a script to be placed in a /etc/hotplug directory and there isn't a hotplug folder in 8.04 .... is that still a feasible practice on that how to?
[22:43] <btoogood> what is a good wusiwyg html editor ie like nvu, I did have Kompozer installed but it kept closing on me, so I uninstalled it
[22:43] <macjason0607> no change in my sound
[22:43] <samile> Rolaulten: do you have the libgnome-perl package installed?
[22:43] <moepman> Balau: ill try that tomorrow
[22:43] <osotogari> @ btoogood: i use bluefish
[22:43] <gnutron> btoogood: bluefish is pretty good
[22:44] <osotogari> @ gnutron: zingggggggggg.... :P
[22:44] <Morydd> my google-fu has failed me thus far. the only thing I've found is a recompiled version of nfs-common, but that didn't help either.
[22:44] <Scunizi> gnutron: but is bluefish wusiwyg
[22:44] <Rolaulten> samile: its not able to find that package in the repos...
[22:44] <btoogood> gnutron: i dont know html so that is why kompozer(nvu) is good because it is like dreamweaver
[22:44] <ogre> what is an open source alternative for making excel spreadsheets?
[22:44] <deever> is there a way to ifup a bridge without any children?
[22:44] <deever> in /etc/network/interfaces, bridge_ports cannot be omitted or left empty
[22:45] <Scunizi> ogre: there's Openoffice Sheet and gnumeric..
[22:45] <samile> Rolaulten: libgnome2-perl then?
[22:45] <Rolaulten> samile: that one is installed
[22:46] <android60> is it standard for a laptop that can boot from usb to also be able to boot from SD card?
[22:46] <samile> Rolaulten: and libgnome2-gconf-perl?
[22:46] <xat_> android60: yes
[22:46] <nibbler> android60: sd card normally is connected via usb internally
[22:46] <ogre> Scunizi,  ty
[22:46] <android60> ok thanks guys
[22:46] <Rolaulten> samile: libgnome2-gconf-perl is installing...well is now installed
[22:47] <samile> Rolaulten: has that sorted the problem?
[22:47] <Rolaulten> samile: Yep - thanks...to to figure how you were able to glean what lib's needed to be installed
[22:47] <benbloom> after reboot, I have to run "#ifconfig eth1 down" before nm will connect to that device. eth1 (my wireless card) is not mentioned in my /etc/network/interfaces file. how is ifconfig bringing it up in the first place? how do I get it to be handled by nm?
[22:49] <samile> Rolaulten: script used perl(from the output) problem was with gnome(Can't locate Gnome2/GConf.pm) so a quick apt search found it. glad to help.
[22:49] <Scunizi> ogre: keep in mind, if you use macros it's a whole different ballgames in Open Office. Never tried them in gnumeric.  VB isn't used..
[22:51] <JON5000> I am using samba and succesfully shareing local folders with windows pc's on the network.  however, unable to share a usb drive which is fat32.  all permissions and ownership correct.  its mounted, etc.  is it possible?
[22:52] <linux29684> anyone know how to get the live ubuntu (hardy) booted to a powerpc mac?
[22:52] <linux29684> !mac
[22:52] <m1dn1ght> I'm trying to install Cairo-Dock in Hardy and am having some trouble graphically with it.  I do not have compositing but am told I can use it with fake transparency so I do not get a black bock around the icons when I move the mouse over it?  Can anyone give some advice please.
[22:53] <linux29684> anyone know how to get the live ubuntu (hardy) booted to a powerpc mac?
[22:53] <zsquareplusc> linux29684: i don't know about the live cd. but installers are at ports.ubuntu.com
[22:54] <linux29684> zsquareplusc: thanx, but i need to run it on a live cd first, and cannot access the bios because macs don't have bioses to change boot order
[22:54] <dr_willis> linux29684,  last i used a cd in a old PPC mac. I had to hold down the C key' or on some older machines ya have to do other tricks.
[22:54] <zsquareplusc> JON5000: the permissions from the samba side allow to read the stick?
[22:54] <sshirley> Hi everyone. Using the command-line, how do I enable hardware drivers. Using the GUI, I would use System->Administration-> Hardware Drivers.
[22:54] <pswii60> ok so zsquareplusc  you're saying the easiest way for me to be able to save programs/settings/ etc via my usb drive is to do what again?
[22:55] <linux29684> dr_willis: its a mac powerbook g4 2006
[22:55] <deebus> ok, so is there a KDE channel?
[22:55] <deebus> need help with 4.2 stuff
[22:55] <yagga> try the apple key t gives boot devices then choose
[22:55] <DavidCanarias> Hi
[22:55] <dr_willis> linux29684,  i would google for that machine and how to make it boot cd's  Could be a mouse button, or  the C key, or somthing else.
[22:55] <zsquareplusc> pswii60: use gparted to make room and create a partition with ext3 and the label "casper-rw" or "casper-cow" depending on if you want the entire system persistent or just your home
[22:55] <linux29684> dr_willis and yagga: thanks, i'll try c and apple key
[22:55] <deebus> anyone running KDE?
[22:56] <DavidCanarias> Can anyone help me please? When I open my web broswer Mozilla Firefox its very slow. Why could this be?
[22:56] <pswii60> zsquareplusc, instead of using gp could I use the Terminal or no?
[22:56] <deebus> my menu button has disappeared and turned into a USB devices status button instead
[22:56] <deebus> thoroughly useless in its current location
[22:56] <sshirley> Anyone know how to enable hardware drivers using the command-line?
[22:57] <lazarus_lupine> modprobe?
[22:57] <Texou> night  guys
[22:57] <babydaz05209> hey wuts up people
[22:57] <samile> g'night
[22:58] <babydaz05209> wuts this all about
[22:58] <zsquareplusc> pswii60: you could do all these steps manually, but don't ask me :p gparted is so much easier
[22:58] <pswii60> ok
[22:58] <sshirley> lazarus_lupine: I am trying to install the ath5k driver for my Atheros card. I just got the ath5k on there but I need to enable it. modprobe doesn't see the ath5k driver anywhere.
[22:58] <pswii60> and where is gparted stored?
[22:59] <danielbw> i need to change the grid size of the gnome desktop
[22:59] <babydaz05209> ubuntu sucks
[22:59] <danielbw> any way to do that?
[22:59] <sshirley> sshirley@zion:~$ sudo locate ath5k
[22:59] <sshirley> /lib/modules/2.6.27-9-generic/updates/ath5k.ko
[23:00] <DavidCanarias> I am trying to download a driver for my new HP printer. The website is clear enough but when I type in the terminal : sh hplip-2.8.10.run   up comes an error :  sh: Can't open hplip-2.8.10.run   Does anyone know how to overcome this please?
[23:01] <dmg46664> How do I get the sound on this to work. Totem doesn't play anthing for me. tried mozilla-plugin-vlc but it doesn't load for this.
[23:01] <dmg46664> http://www.laits.utexas.edu/tex/gr/virr1.html
[23:01] <cliff> hi
[23:02] <myk_robinson> !fonts
[23:03] <deever> is there a way to ifup a bridge without any children?
[23:03] <deever> in /etc/network/interfaces, bridge_ports cannot be omitted or left empty
[23:04] <dmsuperman> I keep getting "console-kit-daemon" crashes errors. It pops up, tells me it crashed, but nothing else happens. I have these regularly. I'm using Hardy.
[23:04] <dmg46664> http://www.laits.utexas.edu/tex/gr/virr1.html    can't get the soundclips to work
[23:04] <dmg46664> works in windows
[23:04] <dmg46664> with quicktime
[23:04] <dmg46664> ubuntu 8.10
[23:05] <loquitus_of_borg> Is thunderbird broken on Intrepid? I just installed it and it crashes when I start it.
[23:05] <loquitus_of_borg> some gdk or gtk error
[23:06] <loquitus_of_borg> This is the error: The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'.
[23:08] <quentin> bonjour
[23:08] <kansan> i have two directories: foo and bar. foo is the parent directory of bar.  i would like to create symbolic links so that all of the files/subdirectories of bar (recursive) will be available from foo as if they were in that directory.  (1) i know symbolic linking can link to one file... but can it handle a case like this?  (2) can apache follow these symbolic links (the motivation here is to cleanup directory structures)
[23:08] <nedwell> While rotating the compiz cube, can you freeze the position and continue to work with the windows displayed as is?
[23:09] <chfwiggum> !ca
[23:09] <dr_willis> nedwell,  you want to work on an 'angled' desktop?
[23:10] <loquitus_of_borg> anybody have thunderbird working in Ubuntu 8.10? mine crashes
[23:10] <nedwell> dr_willis, not usually, but it would help out a lot if i could currently do it.  it looks like i've seen someone in youtube do it, but didn't know if it was actually possible or just video editing.
[23:10] <dsnaike> thunderbird works flawless for me
[23:11] <chfwiggum> loquitus_of_borg: start it from console and paste the output
[23:11] <chfwiggum> loquitus_of_borg: to pastebin
[23:12] <tiyowan> loquitus: Mine works just fine.
[23:12] <loquitus_of_borg> chfwiggum:
[23:12] <loquitus_of_borg> http://pastebin.com/mc623b95
[23:12] <NotADJ> PAM is letting me login without a password. QAny ideas?
[23:12] <NotADJ> Any ideas*
[23:12] <NotADJ> !pam
[23:12] <sshirley> I am trying to enable a driver using modprobe, but modprobe can't seem to find the module:
[23:12] <sshirley> sshirley@zion:~$ sudo locate ath5k
[23:12] <sshirley> /lib/modules/2.6.27-9-generic/updates/ath5k.ko
[23:12] <sshirley> Am I missing something?
[23:12] <FloodBot3> sshirley: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:13] <tiyowan> loquitus_of_borg: TB v2 (the one on intrepid) works just fine. I read somewhere that the very latest one causes problems, but I'm not sure.
[23:14] <dr_willis> sshirley,what command are you using?   try ------>   sudo modprobe ath5k
[23:14] <whitehawk> hi
[23:14] <whitehawk> I installed kubuntu on a laptop and since that it reboots in every ~20 minutes. Even in windows
[23:15] <drwelby> So my sound playback on Hardy with Ali 5451 card is fine, but whne  I try the RT kernel sound playback is horribly slow and distorted. Any ideas?
[23:15] <whitehawk> could this be a coincidence?
[23:15] <sshirley> dr_willis: That's exactly the command I used. I got this as a response: FATAL: Module ath5k not found.
[23:15] <zsquareplusc> NotADJ: you have set no password? or why should it allow to log in without.
[23:15] <dsnaike> loquitis_of_Borg how did you install thunderbird
[23:15] <tiyowan> !conky
[23:15] <loquitus_of_borg> dsnaike: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[23:15] <dr_willis> whitehawk,  i would think so.. check your fans , dust out the thing.. look for lint... (seen that happen befor)
[23:15] <whitehawk> lint?
[23:15] <zsquareplusc> sshirley: i had to install linux-backports-modules to get that driver
[23:16] <dr_willis> sshirley,  and uname -a          shows you are using the   2.6.27-9  kernel?
[23:16] <sshirley> zsquareplusc: That's exactly what I did too. :-)
[23:16] <chairman> what's a good email client because evolution and tbird can't never separate my accounts?
[23:16] <sshirley> dr_willis: Linux zion 2.6.27-9-server #1 SMP
[23:16] <dsnaike> Uninstall try sudo aptitude will handle dependancies much better
[23:17] <zsquareplusc> chairman: i haev separate accounts with thunderbird. doesnt it work for you?
[23:17] <NotADJ> zsquareplusc: sudo too!
[23:17] <NotADJ> zsquareplusc: And no, it is not set to aut-login
[23:17] <dr_willis> sshirley,  it LOOKS like you may have 2 different kernels and are booted to the other one..     2.6.27-9-server   vs 2.6.27-9-generic
[23:17] <tiyowan> chairman: TB is pretty cool; it can read almost all the webmail accounts too.
[23:17] <nimbus> anyone experience flickering video with compviz effects on with an ati card?
[23:18] <mano> i only get dial up conection with wvdial, but with sudo, i want an icon to activate wvdial, how do i do it ?
[23:18] <NotADJ> nimbus: Only in fullscreen aps.
[23:18] <tiyowan> nimbus: Yes.
[23:18] <nimbus> I get it when playing a movie, full screen or no
[23:18] <NotADJ> mano: gksu <command>
[23:18] <sshirley> dr_willis: yeah. Looks like it. Hmmm. How can I copy the driver from the generic branch to the server branch?
[23:18] <zsquareplusc> NotADJ: then set yourself a password in system->admin->users
[23:18] <nimbus> is there anything to be done about that aside from turning off compiz?
[23:18] <loquitus_of_borg> dsnaike: please restate that... I did not understand
[23:18] <NotADJ> zsquareplusc: I have a password, I was messing with Kerberos PAM, and passwords became no longer necessary...
[23:18] <tiyowan> nimbus: I use VLC and go to Tools and set the vid. output to X11.
[23:19] <NotADJ> But I uninstalled Kerberos
[23:19] <dr_willis> sshirley,  no idea.. You may want to update grub, and see what kernels are avail.    Normally you dont just 'copy' modules from one kernel to another.. its possible the server kernel did not incluide that module
[23:19] <cliff> after i installed compiz fusion my computer starts in safe graphics mode?
[23:19] <chairman> but i got 3 gmail accounts and i get emails  to my default one which is gmail too
[23:19] <nimbus> I just tried that tinyowan. it still flickered
[23:19] <tiyowan> nimbus: Which ATI card do you have?
[23:19] <nimbus> 4650
[23:19] <zsquareplusc> NotADJ: ok, you you chaged pam config files, so that the final action if no auth method works is login instead of fail
[23:19] <sproingie> is "nautilus ." the accepted way to pop open a file browser in the current dir?
[23:20] <nimbus> wait - it is not flickering now
[23:20] <dsnaike> uninstall current thunderbird restart xserver reinstall thunderbird with sudo aptitude install thunderbird
[23:20] <dr_willis> sproingie,  thats one way.
[23:20] <tiyowan> nimbus: I'm running an ATI X1400, and it's working fine.
[23:20] <yagga> chairman: have utilized filters
[23:20] <hummesse> hi guys. I have a problem. I need to get some files from my labtop which is behind a firewall where i work. I can make an ssh connection to the server at work and from there another to my labtop, but i can't figure out how to copy files all the way through both connections. Does anyone know how?
[23:20] <zsquareplusc> hummesse: use scp
[23:20] <dr_willis> hummesse,  scp is our friend :)
[23:21] <hummesse> would that not copy the files to the server at work?
[23:21] <loquitus_of_borg> dsnaike: what is the difference between aptitude and apt-get ?
[23:21] <zsquareplusc> hummesse: or sftp:// in nautilus
[23:21] <NotADJ> zsquareplusc: How do I fix...
[23:21] <NemesisD> can anyone recommend a highly compatible VNC server if I absolutely must use VNC? I'm trying to VNC onto a linux machine from an iPhone using some crappy client
[23:21] <yagga> chairman: have you tried utilizing filters to place emails in folders
[23:21] <hummesse> I dont think it is that simple zsquareplusc. Please read the question again
[23:22] <zsquareplusc> NotADJ: fix the pam config. compare the files with a working machine or backups. alternatively reinstall the package that provides the files
[23:22] <chairman> ok how u do tht. i see them but i ignore them
[23:22] <NotADJ> zsquareplusc: I didn't modify any files, I guess apt did...
[23:22] <dr_willis> NemesisD,  i tend to use vnc4server for linux, and ultravnc for windows
[23:22] <dsnaike> aptitude handles dependacies much better than apt-get
[23:22] <zsquareplusc> hummesse: sftp uses ssh connection, you just need to enable the sftp module in your ssh server. it is by default
[23:23] <NemesisD> dr_willis, thanks, I'll see if I can get that to work
[23:23] <yagga> chairman: saw your issue late but you want mail to email accounts separted right?
[23:23] <sproingie> aptitide however does not have super-cow powers
[23:23] <sproingie> aptitude even
[23:23] <dr_willis> NemesisD,  vnc4server however defaults to usint twm. You have to correct the .vnc/xstartup to make it run somting useable
[23:23] <loquitus_of_borg> dsnaike: ah ok
[23:23] <andriy21> ciao
[23:23] <zsquareplusc> NemesisD: there are vncserver vnc4server tightvncserver x11vnc vino  .. one of them should work
[23:24] <chairman> right
[23:24] <hummesse> but the problem is that it is really two connections. One from home to the server and one from the server to the labtop. so if i sftp://server i dont get the labtop. If i sftp://local_labtop_ip i also dont get the labtop
[23:24] <NemesisD> vino sure as hell doesn't :/
[23:24] <GodfatherofEire> How would I go about exiting a VBoxGTK crash without having to do a hard reboot?
[23:24] <dr_willis> I use the default 'share desktop' feature under gnome. and it works rather well for me
[23:25] <zsquareplusc> sproingie: nope no moo but it has other animals (hint: moo -v, -vv, ..)
[23:25] <yagga> chairman: create folders you already have inbox create folders with names you want
[23:26] <cvd-pr> Why ubuntu update-manager show me an older image and header if i have the newest one?
[23:27] <yagga> chairman: right click on "on this computer" name folder
[23:28] <MonthOLDpickle> Hey I just burned the 8.10 64 bit version to a CD and than put it in to see if it worked.
[23:28] <cvd-pr> ?
[23:28] <MonthOLDpickle> There is an option named
[23:28] <MonthOLDpickle> Install within windows
[23:28] <MonthOLDpickle> so its possible to install linux when I am in windows?
[23:28] <bdelin88> what's the best way to go about removing ubuntu and reinstalling it, just save my home directory and delete anything i don't want restored?
[23:28] <zsquareplusc> MonthOLDpickle: it will install linux in a file on your windows partition$
[23:28] <n8tuser> !clone | bdelin88
[23:29] <kiba_urufu> what does the /usr folder need for permissions. I accidentally changed its perms. to 777 and im going to restart as root but i wanted to know what it needs to be chmodded to first.
[23:29] <dr_willis> MonthOLDpickle,  the  Wubi tool lets you install linux to a 'file' on the windows drive.. but i dont reccomend it.
[23:29] <cvd-pr> bdelin88,  reformat the /
[23:29] <GodfatherofEire> Is there any list of scanners that are fully compatible
[23:29] <MonthOLDpickle> okay just making sure
[23:29] <GodfatherofEire> *with ubuntu
[23:29] <dr_willis> !sane | GodfatherofEire
[23:29] <MonthOLDpickle> I was amazed..not anymore
[23:29] <MonthOLDpickle> lol
[23:29] <fluxy> bdelin88: you might consider backing up your .debs packages using aptoncd
[23:29] <bdelin88> i have no idea wat ubottu just told me to do
[23:29] <n8tuser> kiba_urufu, drwxr-xr-x  11 root root  4096 2007-10-15 16:19 usr
[23:29] <GodfatherofEire> Thanks dr_willis
[23:30] <hatter243> bdelin88, ubottu just told you how to replicate your currently installed packages onto another machine
[23:30] <GodfatherofEire> dr_willis Does it include backported drivers, etc though?
[23:30] <deever> is there a way to ifup a bridge without any children?
[23:30] <hatter243> bdelin88, but I think what you were asking about can be simply done by plugging in a thumb drive and copying your home dir onto it
[23:30] <kiba_urufu> thanks n8tuser
[23:30] <bdelin88> hatter243: lol yea... i am sure he did but... yea
[23:30] <deever> in /etc/network/interfaces, bridge_ports cannot be omitted or left empty
[23:30] <dr_willis> GodfatherofEire,  cant say that ive ever noticed many 'drivers' for scanners under linux. :)  all the scanners ive tried have worked from the start - worked better then they do in windows
[23:30] <bdelin88> hatter243: yea i think i just want to save a few things like themes and awn settings, icons, etc
[23:31] <cvd-pr> Please someone say YES is you can read this
[23:31] <bdelin88> for example if i copy the .avant folder it should save my settings right?
[23:31] <bdelin88> YES
[23:31] <hatter243> bdelin88, unless you've done something nutty, those should all be in .files in your homedirectory
[23:31] <GodfatherofEire> dr_willis thanks for the that
[23:31] <GodfatherofEire> *the help
[23:31] <cvd-pr> bdelin88,  yes
[23:31] <Twile> Is there a UMPC image for Xubuntu like there is for Ubuntu (as of 8.10)?  It's like a live CD, except persistent and on a USB drive.  Not sure if you still have to change the BIOS settings or not though.
[23:31] <bdelin88> whoever suggested APTonCD, i love you in a non gay way
[23:32] <dr_willis> Twile,  You can make such a thing with the tools in 8.10, unetbootin can also make such an image.. but i dont think that tool makes it persistant (yet)
[23:32] <fluxy> bdelin88: lol. thx
[23:33] <Twile> dr_willis: thank you
[23:33] <bdelin88> fluxy: heh, btw, this apton thing it installs just packages and things like that, but not drivers, so i truly could install the same packages on multiple (different hardware based) systems right?
[23:33] <Twile> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/
[23:34] <fluxy> bdelin88: you can select which packages you want, it can even create a meta-package for you
[23:34] <bdelin88> fluxy: O-M-G
[23:34] <bdelin88> fluxy: my life is simple now
[23:35] <ubendu> !bitlbee
[23:35] <bdelin88> fluxy: although... i don't know what a "meta" package is
[23:35] <ubendu> Anyone here use Bitlbee?????/???????????
[23:35] <skylarS> what is a good light html viewer for use from the command line?
[23:35] <NotADJ> zsquareplusc: I didn't modify any files, I guess apt did... Any idea?
[23:35] <ksakjas> im trying to setup motion, but i have two cameras so i have motion.conf thread0.conf and thread1.conf, but im unsure how thread0.conf is suppose to look to make it point to /dev/video0 same with thread1 to make it point to /dev/video1. how how to configure motion to run both at the same time?
[23:35] <zsquareplusc> NotADJ: nope
[23:35] <dr_willis> skylarS,  w3m, lynx, may be others.
[23:36] <fluxy> bdelin88: sometimes copying the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives from the old system to the new one may work, aptoncd is a safer method
[23:36] <Twile> !ubottu
[23:36] <bdelin88> fluxy: i agree
[23:36] <JFC1993> Are there any math geniuses here?
[23:37] <fluxy> bdelin88: a metapackage is a package which does not have any software in itself. it makes the installation of a set of other packages easy by having them as dependencies.
[23:37] <skylarS> dr_willis, nice, thanks w3m is pretty neat
[23:37] <bdelin88> fluxy: i see, i think...
[23:38] <fluxy> bdelin88: suppose you want to install packages x,y,z,a,b,c,d,g...etc instead of each time selecting all that, you create a metapackage called alphabet. alphabet does not contain any software, but when u install it, it lists x,y,z,a,b,c...etc as dependency hence all that get installed
[23:38] <dmsuperman> I have network-manager-pptp installed, using Hardy, and nm-applet doesn't give me an option to modify VPN connections. I've restarted DBus and the applet and even X
[23:38] <bdelin88> fluxy: sounds convenient
[23:38] <dmsuperman> What can I do to get it to list it?
[23:38] <NET||abuse> anyone know is there a prebuild radius server distribution at all?
[23:39] <MonthOLDpickle> also I am going to be pre-formatting the HD
[23:39] <MonthOLDpickle> should it be in fat32 or what?
[23:39] <dr_willis> skylarS,  some of those have graphical features if you are using a framebuffer console
[23:40] <tarvid> root partition boots to kernel panic after upgrade. Any way to rebuild the boot image on a partition?
[23:40] <skylarS> dr_willis, will I am using the gnome terminal default and I do have some mouse capabilities at least :)  I don't know what you can tell from that.
[23:41] <genii> NET||abuse: freeradius is an ubuntu package which comes with safe defaults. You also might want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[23:41] <dr_willis> skylarS,  you are not using the framebuffer then.
[23:41] <cvd-pr> Opera Acid Test3 100% :-)
[23:42] <fluxy> !clone
[23:43] <bdelin88> i guess i can also backup my windows xp VM as well
[23:43] <porter1> Anyone know why Blender doesn't open in non-fullscreen even when I select the windowed option in the menu?
[23:44] <|Zippo|> hi, where can I find a tutorial to install XEN virtualization on intrepid????
[23:44] <bdelin88> porter1: it does the same for me as well
[23:44] <dr_willis> !xen
[23:44] <fluxy> bdelin88: generally, the best thing to do, is to have atleast 3 partitions, one for swap, one for  / and one for data
[23:45] <fluxy> bdelin88: the one for data needs not be formatted in case of new install or upgrade, and can be mounted at /home
[23:45] <bdelin88> fluxy: already done, i think i have swap, ext3, "Media", "Software" and a windows partition, lol
[23:45] <fluxy> bdelin88: makes life easier
[23:45] <bdelin88> fluxy: but i don't feel like setting up a dedicated home
[23:45] <cliff_> ution what is a free email service i can use with it?
[23:45] <deever> is there a way to ifup a bridge without any children?
[23:45] <deever> in /etc/network/interfaces, bridge_ports cannot be omitted or left empty
[23:46] <cliff_> * i am setting up evolution what is a free email service i can use with it?
[23:46] <cvd-pr> If i have the image and headers of <IP_ADDRESS> why i have to install the <IP_ADDRESS> ones ?
[23:46] <bdelin88> fluxy: btw, is there anything you could think of that would convert my windows playlist files (windows-based directory structure) into playlists that amarok could understand the directory for?
[23:46] <lester__> ктонибуть есть.
[23:46] <lester__> ?
[23:46] <fluxy> bdelin88: Neither do I. I mounted my data partition inside /home/<my username>. Incidentally I also use it as My Documents on Windows XP (I dual boot for games). This way no matter how many reformats, my data is always intact
[23:47] <lester__> Русские есть.
[23:47] <lester__> ????
[23:47] <cvd-pr> :-S
[23:47] <zsquareplusc> !ru
[23:47] <mano_> who has dial up conexion on Ibex ?  i,m having problems
[23:47] <LjL> !ru | lester__
[23:47] <MonthOLDpickle> Preformat  NTFS or FAT32
[23:47] <cliff_> ---- i am setting up evolution what is a free email service i can use with it?
[23:47] <bdelin88> fluxy: you mounted your data directory (NTFS i assume) to your home and store your stuff there you say?
[23:47] <bdelin88> fluxy: i will have to look into that after finals
[23:48] <zsquareplusc> bdelin88: if you save the playlist with relative paths, many linux programs can read it too
[23:48] <fluxy> bdelin88: I meant /home/<username>/Dokz and Dokz is a fat32 partition, quite big, holds all my data
[23:48] <fluxy> bdelin88: zsquareplusc is right, else if you know python programming a little script might help...
[23:48]  * zsquareplusc lost confidence in fat. i want fsck.ext3 for my data
[23:48] <fluxy> MonthOLDpickle: preformat for what?
[23:49] <lester__> Кто русский знает напишите плиз =)
[23:49] <bdelin88> fluxy: i see, well i assume that even though people say NTFS is sketchy in linux, i could mount it to home right?
[23:49] <lester__> мне в приват
[23:49] <fluxy> cliff_: Gmail?
[23:49] <lester__> вопросик имеется
[23:49] <GodfatherofEire1> !ru | lester__
[23:49] <dmsuperman> After installing network-manager-pptp, restarting X, and restarting dbus, my nm-applet only lists "Manual configuration" as an option, nothing about VPN. Any ideas how to solve that?
[23:49] <macjason0607> besides devde what app is good for converting a avi to a mpeg ?
[23:49] <bdelin88> zsquareplusc: no i don't know python, but i was maybe considering getting into it, don't know if there's like a beginners IRC out there or some team eager to teach a little :)
[23:49] <zsquareplusc> macjason0607: ffmpeg, mencoder
[23:49] <Buzzk> does warhammer online work on ubuntu
[23:49] <MonthOLDpickle> hard drive is formatted as NTFS with some old info thats not needed. Gonna format first to get rido fall data
[23:50] <phoenixz> Hi there, where does ubuntu keep its "secure" logs? cant seem to find them in /var/log where the other log files are
[23:50] <MonthOLDpickle> was wondering what to format it as before the installation
[23:50] <bdelin88> fluxy: eh, one more thing, i know i ask a lot, but i think the "primary" and "logical" feature has been taken out of ubuntu partition manager, what is the deal with that?
[23:50] <LjL> phoenixz: what are the secure logs?
[23:50] <zsquareplusc> bdelin88: while it wasnt be to suggest python, i can double that sugegstion. python.org has tutorials, there is a mailinglist and #python here
[23:50] <zsquareplusc> s/be/me/
[23:50] <bdelin88> zsquareplusc: nice :) thanks
[23:51] <macjason0607> actually
[23:51] <Buzzk> anyoNe
[23:51] <phoenixz> LjL: The logs where user access is registered, access denied, etc..
[23:51] <macjason0607> zsquareplusc, i want to convert it to a iso then burn it to a dvd
[23:51] <five_> does imgburn work well on linux?
[23:51] <LjL> phoenixz: that would be /var/log/auth.log
[23:51] <bdelin88> zsquareplusc: do you know if winamp has the capability to save relative paths to playlists or if there is an easy conversion?
[23:51] <phoenixz> LjL: ah, thanks!
[23:51] <zsquareplusc> macjason0607: i used ffmpeg -f dvd and then devede (set it to use files as is)
[23:51] <cofeineSunshine> hello
[23:52] <zsquareplusc> bdelin88: i think winamp had that
[23:52] <fluxy> bdelin88: last time i tried, gparted worked well for me...
[23:52] <Buzzk> does warhammer online work on linux
[23:52] <macjason0607> zsquareplusc, so you decode the movie first and then use devde to burn ?
[23:52] <bdelin88> fluxy: well i am not saying it worked well, but i do not see the options anymore for logical or extended partitions
[23:53] <cliff_> ty setting up gmail account
[23:53] <zsquareplusc> macjason0607: decode? you need to convert it to a mpeg devede failed with my files, so i used ffmpeg for that step
[23:53] <macjason0607> oh ok
[23:54] <cvd-pr> I have a cpu 1.8ghz then i change the bios and change the clock something from 200hz to 250hz and know my cpu is 2.95ghz , its smell like something is burning
[23:54] <dmsuperman> After installing network-manager-pptp, restarting X, and restarting dbus, my nm-applet only lists "Manual configuration" as an option, nothing about VPN. Any ideas how to solve that?
[23:54] <macjason0607> ffmpeg -f dvd < -- zsquareplusc so this is the command
[23:54] <zloog> does gnome-terminal support logging? If not can somone recomend a term that does?
[23:54] <zsquareplusc> cvd-pr: your CPU is probably getting hot and the dust on it is smelling...
[23:55] <zsquareplusc> macjason0607: uhh..
[23:55] <bdelin88> ***now the question of all questions, since i am reinstalling, should i go with 64 BIT UBUNTU or 32 BIT?  I would say I am an advanced windows user and intermediate to beginner at ubuntu (no programming except CSS and HTML junk), and also is the firefox 64 with 32 bit flash wraparound stable enough... whew!!!!
[23:55] <Pici> zloog: run   script filename   before you start working and it will log all your commands to a file.
[23:55] <zsquareplusc> macjason0607: -target dvd
[23:55] <fluxy> bdelin88: I am not sure about gparted, i am not in a position to check that right now
[23:55] <cvd-pr> bdelin88,  if you have more than 4gb go with 64
[23:55] <Brack101> Hi there
[23:55] <dr_willis> bdelin88,  ive had no issues with 64bit Ubuntu  :)  been testing it with 8.10 -  worked very well
[23:56] <bdelin88> cvd-pr: wonderful, i have 4gb exactly :)
[23:56] <zloog> Pici: I'm trying to learn nntp and I want to log an interactive  telnet session
[23:56] <bdelin88> dr_willis: thanks :)
[23:56] <cvd-pr> but i think that now you can use more than 4gb in a 32bit distro
[23:56] <fluxy> bdelin88: Same here no problems, even flash works great, except that sun java plugin for mozilla isnt available for 64bit
[23:56] <cvd-pr> im i right?
[23:56] <zsquareplusc> bdelin88: there seems to be a 64 bit beta flash now. and for 4GB ram, 64 bits is better. but for proprietary software, 32 bit is easier. you can also do !chroot though
[23:56] <bdelin88> fluxy: is there a problem with java or does it still work?
[23:57] <oakmac> Adobe released a 64-bit native flash player for linux a while ago - does anyone know if this has hit the ubuntu repositories yet?
[23:57] <cvd-pr> with pae kernel you can use more than 4gb in a 32bit distro
[23:57] <bdelin88> oakmac: that's good news
[23:57] <fluxy> bdelin88: other implementations are available - icedtea - except that icedtea doesnt support advanced features, its only around 95% compatible
[23:57] <dmsuperman> After installing network-manager-pptp, restarting X, and restarting dbus, my nm-applet only lists "Manual configuration" as an option, nothing about VPN. Any ideas how to solve that?
[23:58] <fluxy> bdelin88: if u want, for e.g., to run runescape, it wont work with icedtea
[23:58] <bdelin88> fluxy: ok so currently java would not work in the browser
[23:58] <bdelin88> fluxy: sun java that is
[23:58] <fluxy> bdelin88: it works, but not the official java runtime
[23:58] <fluxy> bdelin88: icedtea works
[23:58] <flakeparadigm> Hello
[23:58] <zsquareplusc> bdelin88: simply install a !chroot with firefox so you have access to the 32 bit stuff easily :-)
[23:58] <cvd-pr> ubuntu has the pae-kernel like openSuse?
[23:58] <bdelin88> zsquareplusc: like sun java? :)
[23:58] <fluxy> flakeparadigm: Hi
[23:59] <zsquareplusc> !chroot | bdelin88
[23:59] <flakeparadigm> I need some virtual machine software that supports 3d graphics acceleration.
[23:59] <fluxy> flakeparadigm: for gaming?
[23:59] <zsquareplusc> bdelin88: it is like a 32 bit minimal install within your normal setup.
[23:59] <deever> is there a way to ifup a bridge without any children?
[23:59] <genii> cvd-pr: No pae kernel by defalt on 32 bit. The server kernel is pae enabled though.
[23:59] <deever> in /etc/network/interfaces, bridge_ports cannot be omitted or left empty
[23:59] <MrCollins> Is there a simple video editor available for ubuntu besides kino?


[07:03] <doko> rbasak: pcre3 still ftbfs on s390x, same test failures as -5
[07:05] <doko> mwhudson: could you demote golang-1.7 for 17.10?
[07:10] <ricotz> doko, good morning
[08:07] <seb128> wgrant, hey, could you kick an artful langpack build? I checked the full export box, going to do another of those for the iso
[08:14] <doko> tjaalton: can resteasy now be synced?
[08:14] <tjaalton> doko: yes, since ubuntu has resteasy3.0 too
[08:15] <tjaalton> or do we
[08:16] <tjaalton> doko: I haven't pushed resteasy3.0 to ubuntu, it seems
[08:25] <tjaalton> and debian NEW processing is fairly slow
[08:31] <doko> is it?
[08:33] <tjaalton> what is?
[08:39] <mwhudson> doko: can i?
[08:40] <mwhudson> doko: i thought that took an AA
[08:40] <mwhudson> doko: um seems someone has done it
[08:41] <mwhudson> about a week ago
[08:43] <doko> mwhudson: I can't see anything
[08:44] <mwhudson> doko: do you mean demote to universe (already happened) or delete?
[08:51] <doko> mwhudson: ohh, apparently it already happened last week
[08:59] <doko> mwhudson: but yes, cleaning up would be nice as well
[09:04] <doko> mwhudson:
[09:04] <doko> Reverse-Build-Depends
[09:04] <doko> [09:04] <doko> * docker.io                     (for golang-1.7-go)
[09:04] <doko> * golang-github-gopherjs-gopherjs  (for golang-1.7)
[09:08] <doko> LocutusOfBorg: what needs to happen with the ldc packages? I still see gir-to-d and sambamba
[09:39] <rbalint> LocutusOfBorg: i prepared the u-u merge: LP: #1722426
[10:29] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, gir-to-d needs remove on ppc64el, because... ldc doesn't really work there at all
[10:29] <LocutusOfBorg> it can't compile an hello world main
[10:29] <LocutusOfBorg> and sambamba I don't really care, leaf new package, it can go demoted to proposed and fixed in debain
[10:29] <LocutusOfBorg> debian
[10:38] <mwhudson> doko: wtf, docker.io i need to upload that anyway
[10:39] <mwhudson> doko: no idea what that gopherjs thing is about but 1.7 is gone in unstable i think so...
[10:39] <mwhudson> oh no maybe it isn't gone in unstable, it should be though
[10:44] <doko> mwhudson: no still there, and has a RC issue. lazy maintainers ;p
[10:44] <LocutusOfBorg> rbalint, .
[10:45] <mwhudson> doko: RoM is the best kind of RC bug fix
[10:46] <mwhudson> although apparently the bug is fixed but not closed?
[12:41] <rbasak> doko: :-/
[12:42] <rbasak> doko: at least it's no worse.
[12:55] <wgrant> seb128: Kicked off.
[13:02] <seb128> wgrant, thanks
[13:28] <rbasak> doko: AIUI pcre3 is fundamentally broken wrt. assumptions and compiler optimisation. Given the other fix, I wonder if bumping back to -O1 would work around the s390x segfault? Else it might need a deep dive to find a specific optimization that might be causing the problem.
[13:29] <rbasak> doko: I have limited time to work on this I'm afraid. I was just driving by and saw a contributed patch that looked plausible.
[17:56] <bmw> rbasak: I wanted to check in about Certbot SRU packages again
[17:57] <bmw> would you have time to hop on a call sometime in the next week or two to figure out a plan for the rest of the work we have to do?
[17:58] <bmw> I think we need to make python-letsencrypt (and maybe python-letsencrypt-apache) packages and perhaps debug the letsencrypt build failures if you haven't already
[18:52] <mdeslaur> kees, infinity, stgraber, slangasek: TB meeting in 10
[19:01] <rbasak> bmw: thank you for pinging. Yes, we should chat. Sorry, I've been travelling for various reasons. Catching up on certbot has been on my list but I've mostly been firefighting since I've been back :-/
[19:02] <bmw> no worries
[19:02] <bmw> I'll send around a Doodle or something to find out when everyone is available
[19:04] <rbasak> Sure. Thank you for sorting this. Sorry it hasn't landed yet. So many twists and turns :-/
[19:04] <bmw> I think/hope we're getting close!
[20:39] <dmj_s76> tjaalton: I'll try to get the kbl firmware tested this afternoon or tomorrow.  Xenial has a newer kernel now, so 4.4 *shouldn't* be a blocker there anymore.  (Need testing to know for sure)
[20:40] <tjaalton> dmj_s76: ah, good
[21:39] <smoser> bdmurray, hey. so we have uploaded cloud-init to zesty and xenial.
[21:39] <smoser> i'd like to request you to review that and make sure that it is what you were expecting
[21:39] <smoser> i realize your SRU day is thursday, so we understand if it needs to wait until then
[21:41] <smoser> the sru bug is bug 1721847
[22:03] <bdmurray> smoser: I'll see if I can get to it early but I need to wrap something else up for the release.


[12:13] <ompaul> sladen, u finsihed?
[12:14] <ompaul> theCore, are you finished?
[12:14] <theCore> ompaul, yes
[12:15] <ompaul> so its just sladen left
[12:16] <theCore> well, that was fun
[12:17] <ompaul> it was
[12:17] <theCore> I'm looking forward that libgobby
[12:17] <theCore> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue12
[12:17] <ompaul> well it might be interesting
[12:18] <theCore> where's the screenshot?
[12:18] <theCore> for gobby?
[12:18] <ompaul> sladen, ??
[12:19] <ompaul> I made one
[12:19] <ompaul> how do I upload it to that
[12:20] <theCore> More Actions -> Attachments
[12:23] <ompaul> Burgundavia, my part looks all broken there was it reverted?
[12:23] <Burgundavia> ompaul: ya, I just noticed that. For some reason I lost the last half an hour
[12:23] <Burgundavia> do you have a newer saved version?
[12:23] <ompaul> I did not save it locally
[12:23] <ompaul> :-(
[12:23] <Burgundavia> oh crap
[12:23] <sladen> ompaul: http://www.paul.sladen.org/ubuntu/fridge/uwn-gobby.png
[12:23] <ompaul> again
[12:24] <Burgundavia> sladen: do you have a saved version?
[12:24] <sladen> who was running the server?
[12:24] <theCore> I did
[12:24] <Burgundavia> can you edit the wiki page and replace my text with yours?
[12:24] <sladen> no, somebody closed the server so it all vanished
[12:25] <Burgundavia> ok
[12:25] <Burgundavia> theCore: hold off
[12:25] <sladen> I've been on the phone for the last hour
[12:25] <theCore> ok
[12:26] <theCore> my last saved version is 10 min ago
[12:26] <Burgundavia> that is new enough'
[12:26] <Burgundavia> can you copy to the wiki page?
[12:26] <sladen> it really needs an auto-save
[12:27] <theCore> yes
[12:27] <Burgundavia> sladen: bzr
[12:27] <sladen> or even a record of all the insertions/deletions wouldn't be that big
[12:27] <sladen> Burgundavia: yup, bzr weave format could store it
[12:27] <Burgundavia> theCore and sladen, can you join #ubuntu-marketing ?
[12:27] <sladen> Burgundavia: do we /need/ to
[12:29] <Burgundavia> sladen: we talk about UWN there, it being a marketing project
[12:29] <sladen> "we"
[12:29] <Burgundavia> ompaul, jenda, ponigru, myself
[03:52] <Burgundavia> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2006-September/000052.html
[04:14] <Plug> Is that finished?
[04:14] <Plug> released?
[04:14] <Plug> with a FIXME still in it? :)
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:27] <nixternal> hey, how come only Ubuntu got a link and what not to the Edgy Release?  There was Kubuntu, Edubuntu and XUbuntu as well
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> details, details :p
[04:29] <LaserJock> it's the edgy version ;-)
[04:29] <LaserJock> mistakes are allowed
[04:29] <nixternal> i guess it is time to make a Kubuntu Weekly Newsletter
[04:29] <Plug> I don't think separation like that is good for the overall Ubuntu community, nixternal
[04:29] <nixternal> well, as it stands the UWN is Ubuntu only
[04:29] <LaserJock> heh
[04:29] <LaserJock> nah
[04:29] <nixternal> except for the Kubuntu project part at the "bottom"
[04:30] <nixternal> and the Edubuntu and Xubuntu projects at the "bottom"
[04:30] <nixternal> ;)
[04:30] <nixternal> hehe
[04:30] <LaserJock> UWN started because there were individual newsletters already
[04:30] <nixternal> i like the SoC project links though..now i have a central place to watch them develop
[04:30] <LaserJock> it mentions Kubuntu and Edubuntu stuff often
[04:30] <LaserJock> and probably Xubuntu in proportion to activity
[04:30] <nixternal> im just jokin', but still, they pimped only the Ubuntu Edgy Release..there were 3 other releases as well
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> later all. enjoy your discusion :)
[04:31] <nixternal> later ;)
[04:31] <Plug> Ubuntu is the name for the base distro as well as "the GNOME version"
[04:31] <nixternal> hmmm...but there are other download pages
[04:33] <LaserJock> yeah
[04:33] <nixternal> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/knot-2/
[04:33] <nixternal> ^^ show joe blow how to download Edubuntu from that link
[04:33] <LaserJock> but as you know, nixternal, the UWN is open to editing :-)
[04:33] <nixternal> ya, but i was sleeping during the editing times, and afk at other times ;)
[04:34] <Plug> nixternal: Joe Blow doesn't want Edubuntu
[04:34] <LaserJock> excuses, excuses
[04:34] <nixternal> why not?
[04:34] <LaserJock> Plug: of course he does :-)
[04:34] <nixternal> exactly, typical gnome users
[04:34] <LaserJock> for his kids
[04:34] <Plug> Tom Teacher does
[04:34] <nixternal> everyone wants Edubuntu
[04:34] <nixternal> my daughter is 10, far from a teacher
[04:34] <LaserJock> ah, well that to
[04:34] <Plug> it's a bit more speciailist than the general Ubuntu
[04:35] <LaserJock> yeah, but it is applicable to a lot of people
[04:35] <nixternal> ok, show joe blow with a pII how to download Xubuntu from that link then
[04:35] <Plug> this could be solved by having links to the other distros on that releases page
[04:35] <Plug> my point is
[04:35] <nixternal> i used Edubuntu + KDE Edu here
[04:35] <nixternal> i love it
[04:35] <Plug> is how does Joe Blow with a PII know he -wants- Xubuntu
[04:35] <LaserJock> yeah
[04:35] <Plug> you have to know you want it, to get it
[04:35] <nixternal> you tell him about it
[04:35] <Plug> and then because he knows the name, he goes to the Xubuntu download page
[04:36] <Plug> that you told him to go to
[04:36] <nixternal> so just because joe blow doesn't know about Xubuntu, we should push Ubuntu down his throat?
[04:36] <LaserJock> it would be nice to have one page for the releases that then links to the various things
[04:36] <LaserJock> there really isn't a reason not to
[04:36] <LaserJock> I wouldn't think
[04:36] <nixternal> It would be nice to list "Ubuntu - desc", "Kubuntu - desc", "Edubuntu - desc", and "Xubuntu - desc"
[04:36] <nixternal> desc + link
[04:36] <Plug> to be perfectly (and blatantly honest) I loved Ubuntu when it took away the confusion of "oh my god, which one do I want"
[04:36] <Plug> and now its all back again
[04:37] <LaserJock> nixternal: exactly
[04:37] <Plug> now, if you're going to say "New users should start with:" which one do you recommend, nixternal, and why?
[04:37] <nixternal> Desc == Ubuntu is a fully functional operating system utilizing the Gnome Desktop - Link
[04:37] <nixternal> New users should start with windows, because Linux isn't ready for them yet
[04:38] <nixternal> at times i hate being honest
[04:38] <LaserJock> haha
[04:38] <Plug> s/New users/New Linux users/ if you like
[04:38] <nixternal> hehe
[04:38] <Plug> My answer to that is "whatever version your smart friend tells you to download"
[04:38] <nixternal> i dont' recommend, i show them and let them decide
[04:38] <nixternal> thats like telling a chevy dealer to recommend a ford
[04:39] <nixternal> i give them the pros and cons of each os..and then tell them how great Kubuntu is and hte rest sux0r:
[04:39] <nixternal> hahaha
[04:39] <LaserJock> the problem is that Ubuntu and Kubuntu really don't have much to distinguish themselves to people who don't even know what Gnome or KDE are
[04:39] <nixternal> true
[04:39] <LaserJock> with Xubuntu and Edubuntu at least there is something there
[04:39] <LaserJock> low spec, and educational
[04:39] <nixternal> except Amarok totally owns any music app in Ubuntu ;)
[04:40] <nixternal> i was a Rythmbox fan, up until 2 months ago honestly
[04:40] <LaserJock> heh, I was quite fond of a CLI music player for a while
[04:40] <nixternal> cli becomes a pain when you are dealing with 200+ GB of music
[04:40] <LaserJock> not really for me
[04:40] <LaserJock> the only way I ever play music is "random shuffle"
[04:41] <nixternal> and don't say "shuffle" either
[04:41] <nixternal> hehe
[04:41] <nixternal> argh
[04:41] <nixternal> you said it
[04:41] <LaserJock> yep
[04:41] <LaserJock> that's me
[04:41] <nixternal> well, i usually shuffle, but there is that time i get in the mood for a certain tune
[04:41] <LaserJock> with CLI though I could log in and out of Gnome or KDE or whatever and still listen to my music
[04:41] <Plug> I almost always use beep-media-player (xmms-gtk2)
[04:41] <nixternal> for instance..my new favorite song right now
[04:41] <Plug> but thats all beside the point
[04:41] <Plug> nixternal would probably recommend his friends who wanted to try Linux, run Kubuntu
[04:42] <nixternal> this song rocks
[04:42] <LaserJock> I really wouldn't know what to recomend to people
[04:42] <LaserJock> I tell them a little about both and let them decide I suppose
[04:42] <nixternal> well, if a person is switching from Window, I would definitely recommend Kubuntu w/ Royale KBFX theme
[04:42] <Plug> I recommend the one that I use, so if they have problems, I can help them through it
[04:42] <nixternal> that way there their transition is smooth
[04:42] <LaserJock> Plug: good point
[04:43] <Plug> at the end of the day Ubuntu was founded around GNOME and its release cycle, and it's always the "first class citizen", so I don't think that every release notes should have to link to all four distros
[04:43] <Plug> links should exist to the three derivatives
[04:44] <Plug> I'll file a bug on the release page
[04:44] <nixternal> well, the actual release page is good, the UWN page isn't...and the testing pages have been seperated
[04:45] <nixternal> Corey did Ubuntu and I did Kubuntu
[04:45] <nixternal> just so everyone knows, I run all 4 versions here...I am Ubuntu through and through, but I have been with KDE since v1
[04:45] <Plug> yes, but because of the distinction
[04:45] <nixternal> and truthfully..for the longest time, i thought KDE and GNOME both blew, and that afterstep was the only way to go ;)
[04:45] <Plug> (or rather lack thereof) when you say "ubuntu", what am I to think?
[04:46] <nixternal> exactly
[04:46] <Plug> does ubuntu imply GNOME, and != kubuntu?
[04:46] <nixternal> Operating system wise yes
[04:46] <nixternal> Community wise, different story
[04:47] <nixternal> Ubuntu is either "Humanity towards others" or it is the Operating system based on Debian Linux featuring the GNOME Desktop
[04:47] <Plug> That is a job for the marketing team :)
[04:47] <nixternal> hehe
[04:47] <nixternal> good luck there Plug ;)
[04:47] <Plug> I read someone a while ago recommend renaming them Ubuntu GNOME, Ubuntu KDE, Ubuntu Education etc
[04:48] <nixternal> we just might have a better chance of getting Bill Gates to switch to Ubuntu
[04:48] <Plug> xubuntu == Ubuntu Lite I guess
[04:48] <nixternal> ya
[04:48] <nixternal> but now, there is Fluxbuntu which would also == Ubuntu Lite
[04:49] <nixternal> truthfully, I like that whole Ubuntu GNOME, Ubuntu KDE, Ubuntu Edu, and Ubuntu Lite
[04:49] <Plug> But whats a GNOME?  What's a KDE?
[04:50] <Plug> What do they tell people?
[04:50] <nixternal> exactly
[04:50] <nixternal> i was just thinking that as well...you are back in the same spot, just with different names again
[04:50] <nixternal> this could truthfully be a roundtable/sprint all in its own
[04:51] <nixternal> then again, you have to look...we may see it as kind of screwy and what not..however, it seems the popularity keeps increasing and we are gaining space slowly but surely in the desktop market
[04:54] <Plug> I liked the idea of getting rid of GNOME vs Gnome by changing the name to "Desktop" or "OpenDesktop" or something snazzy
[05:20] <Plug> nixternal: https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-website/+bug/58800
[05:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58800 in ubuntu-website "Release page should link to other derivatives" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]
[05:21] <nixternal> hehe
[07:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #58807 in ubuntu-doc "Gia de el servidor: Seccion 5.2 en ingls" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58807
[07:26] <nixternal> Madpilot: ^^ that has your name written all over it ;)
[07:27] <Madpilot> ... I speak enough Spanish to politely order Coke or beer. I don't think this bug report qualifies...
[07:31] <nixternal> lol
[07:32] <Madpilot> Adding "Un cerveza, por favour" to a bug report would be amusing, but probably not helpful
[07:32] <nixternal> if you did that, then i could confirm the order ;)
[07:33] <Madpilot> then we'd both catch hell for making fun of Spanish speaking Ubuntu users, or something ;)
[07:33] <nixternal> ya, very true
[07:34] <nixternal> probably would stop my ubuntu-qa membership from going through as well...especially after i told simon i would be curteous ;)
[07:44] <nixternal> hey, would it be ok if i asked that guy if he could translate that section in plain text and send it back to me?
[07:44] <nixternal> or does it have to go through rosetta?
[07:46] <nixternal> actually...it is fixed..just hasn't been updated tot he pdf
[07:46] <nixternal> i got this ;)
[07:47] <Madpilot> cool
[07:47] <Madpilot> have fun
[07:47] <nixternal> i don't have svn access so i can't, but i can...
[07:48] <Madpilot> send the patch to the list, someone will add it to svn. I've got svn access, but I'm not sure if I remember how to handle a patch...
[07:48] <nixternal> mdke: ping?   bug 58807 - the fix is in 'generic/serverguide/es' however, the PDF hasn't been updated to reflect it, i issued the "Fix Release"
[07:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58807 in ubuntu-doc "Gia de el servidor: Seccion 5.2 en ingls" [Untriaged,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58807
[07:48] <Madpilot> besides, I'm not sober currently :)
[07:48] <nixternal> don't need to send the patch
[07:48] <nixternal> i fixed all of those a month ago
[07:48] <nixternal> the PDF needs to be regenerated
[07:49] <Madpilot> ah, that is mdke's province, the lucky man.
[07:49] <nixternal> hehe yup
[07:50] <nixternal> why can't all bugs be that easy?
[07:58] <nixternal> wow
[07:58] <nixternal> steve irwin died today
[07:58] <Madpilot> yup. see the topic in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[07:59] <nixternal> heh, that is nuts
[08:02] <Madpilot> well, after about the sixth person in ten minutes mentioned the crock bloke in -offtopic, I thought an addition to the topic was in order ;)
[08:03] <nixternal> hahah
[08:03] <nixternal> man...i went like an idiot like it was new stuff and told everyone..they are like /topic moron
[08:03] <nixternal> hahaha
[08:12] <nixternal> g'nite
[08:19] <Madpilot> night nixternal
[08:45] <mdke> nixternal: sounds fine
[10:04] <Burgundavia> hey jono
[10:04] <jono> hey Burgundavia
[05:48] <nixternal> good morning
[05:51] <osg> good morning
[08:52] <Burgundavia> mdke: we now have a really nice collision of issues. Our stuff is gfdl and ccbya, the book is ccbysa and the gnome stuff is gfdl and we want all of them
[08:52] <Burgundavia> hmm
[09:13] <sladen> none-GPL or BSD/Public domain stuff is a real PITA