[17:12] <house> Hello Anyone here?I have a doubt about accountsservice
[17:13] <sruz25> so nobody here knows how /var/lib/dpkg/ works, huh?
[17:13] <abax> EriC^^: done
[17:14] <EriC^^> abax: sudo chroot /mnt
[17:14] <daftykins> sruz25: i mostly just raised an eyebrow at seeing someone work themselves into such a corner, package wise :)
[17:14] <abax> EriC^^: yes
[17:14] <EriC^^> abax: is it a 64bit machine?
[17:14] <abax> EriC^^: yes it is
[17:14] <abax> EriC^^: brand new
[17:15] <EriC^^> abax: ok, sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[17:15] <EriC^^> wait
[17:15] <EriC^^> exit the chroot
[17:15] <sruz25> I could theoretically back up all the files that fglrx falsely things it owns, remove the package and than restore the backup..., but there's a lot of files
[17:15] <EriC^^> ( type exit )
[17:15] <abax> EriC^^: yeah, done
[17:16] <EriC^^> abax: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi
[17:16] <daftykins> sruz25: yeah that's what i was about to suggest.
[17:17] <abax> EriC^^: should i do that with or without the chroot? because at least without chroot it didn't work. it says: mount: mount point /mnt/boot/efi does not exist
[17:17] <sruz25> the problem is, that fglrx.list contains all directories in the path, so I can't just copy them...
[17:17] <EriC^^> abax: exit the chroot, you should get ubuntu@ubuntu
[17:17] <Mrono> How can I make ubuntu use bluetooth 4.0
[17:17] <sruz25> as in there's /usr/bin and /etc/ and stuff
[17:17] <EriC^^> then sudo mount
[17:17] <Mrono> it's only making a 3.0 connection to my headphones
[17:18] <stangeland> hello, i have a screen session dangling somewhere, when i do screen -ls it says 34570.pts-3.frontn-01	(Attached), so i cannot do screen -r. if i do that it says: There is no screen to be resumed matching 34570.pts-3.frontn-01. How can i destroy that screen session?
[17:18] <abax> EriC^^: yeah i have ubuntu@ubuntu. it still says: mount: mount point /mnt/boot/efi does not exist
[17:18] <SchrodingersScat> stangeland: have you tried screen -d -r 34570
[17:18] <sruz25> I guess I could work around it, but just being able to edit the database entry or whatever it is, would be much easier
[17:18] <Sh3r1ff> stangeland: try screen -rd to detach it first before attaching
[17:19] <stangeland> Sh3r1ff, ahhhh screen -rd did it - what was that?
[17:19] <EriC^^> abax: ok, type sudo mkdir /mnt/boot/efi
[17:19] <SchrodingersScat> stangeland: d is detaches
[17:19] <Sh3r1ff> stangeland: -r for reattach and -d for detach if already attached
[17:20] <EriC^^> abax: i think ubuntu wasn't installed with uefi enabled
[17:21] <abax> EriC^^: actually you might be right. because i probably did the same mistake with booting the installation program as i did booting the live session afterwards. i probably chose the option from the boot menu without uefi. (and the mount command worked now by the way)
[17:21] <abax> EriC^^: so i guess i'm installing it once again now booting with the uefi thing
[17:22] <cryptopsy> bye for now
[17:22] <EriC^^> abax: ok
[17:23] <EriC^^> abax: try to install using the Something else option, cause it's making a swap in the other hard disk
[17:23] <TeddyMurray> hi, can someone help me with my phppgadmin install? i'm having trouble setting the htpasswd file
[17:23] <TeddyMurray> ubuntu 14
[17:23] <abax> EriC^^: i am installing it with something else. i made the swap to the other disk on purpose because i don't want it to consume space from my ssd...
[17:24] <EriC^^> abax: oh ok
[17:24] <TeddyMurray> sudo htpasswd -c /var/www/.htpasswd username is the cmd i ran
[17:25] <EriC^^> abax: you can delete the bios-boot partition if you want, or leave it if you ever need to boot it on a legacy pc
[17:25] <abax> EriC^^: ok
[17:37] <kx25> hi
[17:37] <daftykins> lo
[17:45] <help_me> Hi, for some reason the "Configure VPN" button in my ubuntu installation it's not working ( I click it and nothing happens ), any ideas what could couse that? please note that ubuntu is running in a VM, and yes, internet works there
[17:46] <abax> EriC^^: hey this thing works now!
[17:47] <abax> EriC^^: thanks. i'll buy you a kebab if you ever visit helsinki
[17:51] <heinz> guten abend wer kann mir eine frage über gnome beantworten?
[17:52] <theadmin> !de
[17:53] <faLUCE> hello, can you suggest a good countdown timer for linux? I tried gnome-clocks but it has a bad sound and it's not configurable
[17:56] <heinz> guten abend ululus , kann ich eine frage an dich richten ß
[17:57] <theadmin> faLUCE: sleep 5m && mplayer /path/to/file.mp3
[17:57] <theadmin> heh
[17:57] <theadmin> If you want a more graphical solution, I dunno
[17:57] <Ululus> heinz: good evening, well ok
[17:57] <faLUCE> theadmin: LOL, I'm a linux developer and I didn't find such an easy solution :-) thanks
[17:58] <theadmin> Make sure mplayer is installed first, of course
[17:59] <jhutchins> aplay
[18:03] <Bobbo> faLUCE: sleep 5m && echo "Wake up lazybones!" | festival --tts
[18:03] <help_me> nvm, I fixed itself after fixing another problem, thanks anyway
[18:03] <faLUCE> Bobbo: ehehheeh
[18:03] <Bobbo> faLUCE: done that in the past, actually.
[18:06] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Up and running from yesterday ?
[18:08] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: nope
[18:08] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: going for backup n nuke. :3
[18:08] <mvdnes> Hello! About once a week we get the following error: /etc/cron.daily/apt: *** Error in `/usr/bin/python3': corrupted double-linked list: 0x00000000023c0700 ***.  Running Ubuntu 14.04.1 server. Does anyone know why this happens?
[18:09] <user4777> &
[18:10] <Bobbo> faLUCE: I had a fancier script; but I don't have access to it right now. :(
[18:10] <mun> hi
[18:10] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Bummer .. OK, refresh our minds what the problem is .. (keyboard/driver), Were we not working on the Xorg/graphics driver interfacing ?
[18:10] <mun> what does the command '< foo.txt ...' actually do?
[18:11] <Fuchs> mun: put the contents of foo.txt to STDIN of the application left of the <
[18:11] <theadmin> mun: Not really a command per se, it's a redirection operator
[18:11] <mun> Fuchs: but there's nothing on the left
[18:11] <help_me> could anyone help me setup a vpn? specifically I'm trying to connect to the first one on this list ( the Japanese one ) http://www.vpngate.net/en/ , I'm running 14.10 in virtual box, do I need some additional software?
[18:11] <theadmin> mun: meow < foo.txt would feed the stuff in foo.txt to "meow"
[18:12] <theadmin> I'm not sure what bash does if there's nothing there
[18:12] <mun> theadmin: so if there's nothing on the left, where would the input go?
[18:12] <Fuchs> bash ignores it, zsh prints it to STDOUT
[18:13] <mun> right
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Bobby_Tables: could have used cowsay-gtk ;)
[18:17] <theadmin> mun: > foo.txt on the other hand creates an empty file called "foo.txt"
[18:17] <theadmin> You may see that often
[18:17] <mun> theadmin: yeah, thanks
[18:20] <Guest36533> hello!
[18:20] <theadmin> Guest36533: Hello. Please set a more reasonable nickname by typing /nick your_new_name
[18:20] <theadmin> After that, feel free to ask your question.
[18:21] <Delta706> I am running fdisk to try to setup a new drive. fdisk reports System Linux for the partition
[18:21] <Delta706> Can I go ahead and mount the partition next?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Delta706: is it formatted?
[18:23] <theadmin> Delta706: The partition type doesn't necessarily imply a filesystem
[18:23] <theadmin> Infact, I'm not even sure what the type means
[18:23] <theadmin> You'll want to format the partition first, e.g. mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdx1
[18:24] <Delta706> ActionParsnip: my guess is not. I tried mkfs.ext2 /dev/sdb1
[18:24] <Delta706> but I got an error
[18:26] <Delta706> well this is weird. mkfs.ext2 is now working
[18:27] <Delta706> it seems my problem has just vanished somehow
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Delta706: sweet
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> the new firefox update 35 will soon release: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/01/firefox-35-download-new-features
[18:39] <en1gma> im following this guide on building dsd for ubuntu http://notes.secretsauce.net/notes/2014/07/25_decoding-p25-with-rtl-sdr-on-debian.html  when i goto compile dsd this is what i get http://pastebin.com/BVAvmS4y
[18:39] <en1gma> think someone might be able to tell me what i doing wrong please?
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[18:41] <en1gma> k 1 sec
[18:41] <ikonia> isn't there a DSD package in ubuntu
[18:41] <en1gma> Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l
[18:41] <en1gma> i looked for DSD package and didnt see one
[18:42] <ikonia> I was sure there was one
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: apt-cache shows dsdp
[18:42] <ikonia> linking against /usr/local/lib isn't comfortaing
[18:42] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: is that the same thing ?
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> not sure
[18:42] <en1gma> ActionParsnip so you know what the problem is now that i verified im using ubuntu 14.10?
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> dsdp - Software for Semidefinite Programming
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: just searching the web now
[18:42] <Pici> rtlsdr stuff is evolving pretty quickly, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't in Ubuntu or Debian yet.
[18:43] <en1gma> k. i gave the link
[18:43] <en1gma> its not. that is why im building it
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: http://cboard.cprogramming.com/c-programming/79669-undefined-reference-pow-sqrt-even-though-math-h-header-there.html
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16601550/c-error-undefined-reference-to-pow-in-eclipse-ide-can-use-it-in-main-funct
[18:44] <en1gma> im not sure what those links mean. i just asking what the problem is
[18:44] <en1gma> do i need to build another package first or something
[18:45] <en1gma> or a deps problem?
[18:45] <ikonia> en1gma: why are you telling it to link against /usr/local/lib
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: seems to need different compile options, could ask in a C channel
[18:45] <en1gma> im doing exactly what the guide says for ubuntu 14.05
[18:45] <en1gma> 14.04*
[18:46] <ikonia> you're not using 14.04 though
[18:46] <ikonia> packages / compilers are different
[18:46] <Nathan2055> Whatever happened to the thumbdrive they used to sell in the Ubuntu store? Is there still a way to get it?
[18:46] <en1gma> yea true. i using 14.10
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> !find p25
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Nathan2055: people on ebay make and sell them
[18:47] <theadmin> Nathan2055: Just get a regular thumbdrive and put Ubuntu on it, eh?
[18:47] <en1gma> ok thanks. preciate it. i gonna do a lil more digging. prob check in C channel like you said.
[18:47] <Nathan2055> I know, but it would have been cool to have an official Ubuntu-branded one.
[18:47] <Nathan2055> Oh well, it's not as if it's a huge loss.
[18:48] <en1gma> hey do you think we will see DSD in repo soon?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Nathan2055: as long as it does the job, who cares
[18:48] <kanupatar_> hi guys
[18:48] <kanupatar_> how can I statically assign a "/dev/input/XXX" for my HID device?
[18:48] <ikonia> en1gma: I thought it was there - it appears I'm wrong
[18:48] <kanupatar_> means, whenever I plug in the HID device, I should get the same device node, /dev/input/XXX
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> hi kanupatar_
[18:48] <kanupatar_> ActionParsnip: ^^
[18:48] <theadmin> kanupatar_: You'd write an udev rule
[18:48] <kanupatar_> theadmin: how man?
[18:49] <daftykins> Nathan2055: print a logo and tape it on your flash drive
[18:50] <mvdnes> About once a week we get the following error: /etc/cron.daily/apt: *** Error in `/usr/bin/python3': corrupted double-linked list: 0x00000000023c0700 ***.  Running Ubuntu 14.04.1 server. Does anyone know why this happens?
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: lol
[18:50] <theadmin> mvdnes: That sounds like a bug in Python itself.
[18:51] <bubbasaures> Nathan2055: You can try and find an official disc for a coaster. ;)
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> mvdnes: can you pastebin the cronab file please
[18:51] <Nathan2055> They still sell the official discs, it's just the thumbdrive that got discontinued.
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> mvdnes: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/cron.daily/apt
[18:51] <mvdnes> theadmin: the apt file or /etc/crontab?
[18:53] <viejotren> Hello I'm trying to copy several files using cp -R command, but some of them have special characters, such as spaces and accent mark (̣'), my question is: is there a way to copy the filename even with special chars? how can I accomplish this task?
[18:54] <mvdnes> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/FLkusV46
[18:55] <theadmin> viejotren: Simple, take them in quotes
[18:55] <theadmin> viejotren: Also, you can usually type the first few letters in the filename and hit Tab -- bash will then handle the rest, including handling of special characters
[18:56] <viejotren> theadmin: but the problem is they are a lot files, I'm doing a copy recursively, so it is a better idea to tar them? or maybe use a backup tool? by the way I'm working in command line mode
[18:58] <viejotren> theadmin: I was thinking to use regexpression but don't have idea if such thing may work in recursively mode with cp, what do you think?
[18:58] <theadmin> viejotren: It doesn't matter whether you are copying recursively or whatnot, you can still follow those 2 examples
[18:59] <flexus> viejotren, cp -a /source/. /tartget
[18:59] <viejotren> theadmin: got it, thanks, I will try now
[18:59] <viejotren> flexus: I will try it as well
[19:01] <ayr-ton> Theres someone passing through any problems with python-pip latest update with ubuntu 14.10?
[19:02] <cryptopsy> is there a linux imagefap.com downloader?
[19:03] <viejotren> flexus: I tried it, but it still the same problem
[19:04] <maliktunga> Does i915.modeset=0 in GRUB remove the i915 module?
[19:05] <flexus> viejotren, cp -ra
[19:07] <viejotren> flexus: got it, I'm trying it
[19:08] <viejotren> by the way, this problem only exists because the target is NTFS, I've already try this using ext4 at each side and it worked
[19:09] <flexus> viejotren, 128 chars limit
[19:11] <viejotren> flexus: it seems less than 128, but who knows, it's ntfs, anything may happens
[19:12] <flexus> viejotren, they are writing different things as i can see, but idk
[19:14] <solsTiCe> so by default now ext4 does not force periodic fsck ?
[19:14] <solsTiCe> I was looking at tune2fs -l output on my partition here
[19:14] <cemotyz09> Hi I've been trying to figure out an issue automounting NFS shares not using fstab, using autofs. I've read the wiki at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs and triple checked everything but it won't actually show the share using ubuntu 14.04
[19:15] <bubbasaures> solsTiCe, Yes auto fsck is now not running, has been gone for a while
[19:18] <l0rdn1x> this new kernel better be awesome!
[19:18] <l0rdn1x> lol
[19:18] <l0rdn1x> 3.13.0-44
[19:20] <ashirbad> hi
[19:21] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: Can you see the shares with showmount?
[19:21] <cemotyz09> yes and can mount using mount command
[19:22] <cemotyz09> it seems it does mount at least partially becuase i can tell the permissions change but can't view the shares in the directory
[19:23] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
[19:23] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: what about sudo ls <foo>
[19:24] <cemotyz09> after running automount command it states no directory
[19:25] <cemotyz09> the mount point is my users public directory would that be an issue since its not a top level directory
[19:26] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: Shouldn't be, but it does need to be a dedicated directory, and the share mounts are created within that.
[19:27] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: pstebin your auto.net?
[19:29] <cemotyz09> http://pastebin.com/KxhPvtGs
[19:30] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: Ok, what file did you define the automount shares in?  Pastebin that too.
[19:30] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: Sometimes that's done in auto.net
[19:31] <erbwan> please help i had a usb adapter for wifi and doesn't connect on ubuntu, where can i find drivers for approx ralink rt5370
[19:31] <Paradisee> i lost my root password, is there a way to find it back or change it?
[19:31] <diamonds> yo
[19:32] <apes> Anyone seen this happen and know what may have caused it? /libnss3.so -> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss3.so
[19:32] <bubbasaures> Paradisee, Your password? no root password is there.
[19:32] <theadmin> Paradisee: Ubuntu doesn't have such things.
[19:32] <apes> I'm not having much luck tracking the cause down.
[19:32] <diamonds> I want, when certain applications have an action SENT to them (by me) to come to the fore
[19:32] <diamonds> for example:
[19:32] <diamonds> my notif. messages have a "show" button (on chat notif. e.g.)
[19:32] <cemotyz09> http://pastebin.com/hfLRzZa7
[19:32] <diamonds> I click "show" and the icon bounces on my (unity) dock but it does NOT bring window to fore
[19:32] <diamonds> how can I change this?
[19:33] <Paradisee> how do i get it?
[19:33] <cemotyz09> thats the auto.master and this is in auto.nfs  "NFS -fstype=nfs4 <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/Public"
[19:33] <bubbasaures> Paradisee, Get what? we need to know exactly what you mean.
[19:34] <orion> Hi. Under what circumstances should a server running 12.04 LTS use linux-image-3.13.0?
[19:34] <Paradisee> i need to to reset my password for my user
[19:34] <bubbasaures> !password | Paradisee
[19:34] <freakegk> Paradisee: do "passwd" in in kernel bash
[19:34] <freakegk> And reset your password
[19:34] <Paradisee> i cant' reset it, it seems like my passwrod has been changed
[19:35] <trism> diamonds: there's not likely much you can do about it, there's a couple bugs about it for various indicators, such as bug 1047809
[19:35] <bubbasaures> Paradisee, Read the links in the bots message
[19:36] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: So we're exoectubg that autofs will create /home/carlos/Public/NFS and /home/carlos/Public exists, right?
[19:36] <diamonds> thx trism, may have some action from #xfce
[19:36] <bubbasaures> Paradisee, You can't retrieve it and it does not matter what it is.
[19:36] <rww> orion: if it's using the linux-image-generic metapackage, i.e. not an LTS Enablement Stack (which is fine)
[19:36]  * diamonds looks at bug date
[19:36] <rww> orion: oh wait sorry, 12.04, i was looking at 14.04.
[19:36] <diamonds> 2013-10... :/
[19:36] <cemotyz09> yes it is created on client only directory not created is "NFS"
[19:37] <orion> rww: We have a bunch of servers at work running 12.04, but their kernel version is 3.13.0-44-generic.
[19:37] <orion> And this is confusing me.
[19:37] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: That's correct, autofs is supposed to create it.
[19:37] <rww> orion: yeah, I'm looking up the 12.04 details now
[19:37] <orion> I do not understand the circumstances under which that should happen.
[19:37] <bubbasaures> stack update? orion
[19:37] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: So you've restarted autofs, and ls /home/carlos/Public/NFS shows what?
[19:37] <cemotyz09> right, making sure you understand me
[19:39] <rww> orion: yeah, looks like the latest 12.04 LTS enablement stack uses 3.13
[19:39] <rww> orion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[19:39] <cemotyz09> oK wow it just showed up ive reloaded and tryed the automount -f -v multiple times and never showed up so ok thank you
[19:40] <orion> rww: This HWE shit confuses the hell out of me.
[19:40] <cemotyz09> do you know if theres a time delay like big one i've been trying for about 40 minutes now
[19:40] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: Well, at least it's working!
[19:40] <rww> orion: same
[19:40] <cemotyz09> yeah that's good just don't understand why now and not before thanks again jhutchins
[19:41] <orion> rww: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux
[19:42] <orion> All the way at the bottom.
[19:42] <orion> It says Precise is at 3.2.0
[19:42] <rww> that source package is for non-HWE
[19:42] <rww> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-trusty
[19:46] <stoogenmeyer> hey can anybody recommend an alternative to iterm2 ?
[19:47] <orion> grr
[19:47] <flad> hello
[19:47] <orion> I can't find linux-lts-trusty in apt.
[19:48] <nickander> i read that as linux-its-trusty and was confused as to why that was an application
[19:49] <flad> orion... buy a new copy
[19:50] <bubbasaures> orion, What again is the issue?
[19:50] <undecim> How can I make grub show the Windows install at the top of the list?
[19:50] <bobbobbins> hey, I’m going to ask a potentially stupid question…I’ve inherited a project someone built on a ubuntu server…now I need to deploy that project to a whole bunch of different computers, whats the best way to do that? VirtualBox or something like that?
[19:51] <rww> orion: that's the source package name. the binary packages are named e.g. linux-image-generic-lts-trusty
[19:51] <rww> orion: which depends on linux-image-3.13.0-44-generic
[19:51] <theadmin> bobbobbins: Well, eh, you can take a raw disk image in dd and deploy it to all other computers' drives
[19:51] <flad> undecim... easiest grub-manager
[19:51] <theadmin> bobbobbins: But that will wipe what's currently on them, of course
[19:51] <Bashing-om> orion: linux-generic-lts-trusty , linux-image-generic-lts-trusty ???
[19:51] <julian-delphiki> bobbobbins: depends on the app.
[19:51] <undecim> bobbobbins, The project is an app that runs on Ubuntu Server?
[19:51] <theadmin> bobbobbins: You can also use Virtualbox. Again, take a raw disk image first, then you can use "vboxmanage convertdd" to convert it to a Virtualbox-friendly format.
[19:51] <rww> orion: (analagous to linux and linux-meta being source packages for linux-image-someversion-generic and linux-image-generic)
[19:52] <undecim> And when you say "a whole bunch of different computers", do you mean several desktops? Do they all have hardware virtualization?
[19:52] <bobbobbins> theadmin: yeah, i don’t think I can do that…it wasn’t a very well thought out project, its a website with a bunch of backend processes, so its kind of tied to the os, a whole bunch of computers meaning a few thousand desktops…to people who aren’t very computer saavy
[19:53] <undecim> bobbobbins, Don't give VirtualBox to people who aren't savvy
[19:53] <undecim> I just tried that a few months ago
[19:53] <undecim> And spent a few months regretting it as I solved the problems it caused
[19:54] <bobbobbins> undecim: I really don’t want to, but I’m not sure what solution I can come up with…its going to be a disaster no matter what i do
[19:54] <undecim> bobbobbins, Well, if it works with the app, you could do a thin-client thing
[19:54] <bobbobbins> i don’t know how they plan on making a few thousand different versions of the website available
[19:54] <julian-delphiki> bobbobbins: and they can't just all access the same installation of the application?
[19:54] <bobbobbins> julian-delphiki: no, that was the original proposal, but some stupid privacy thing means each one has to be separate
[19:55] <undecim> bobbobbins, Have one server run the apps on VNC, and everyone else connects to it. But then this means you need a good connection to the server to use the app
[19:55] <undecim> Or, if it's just a website, you can use HTTP as the frontend
[19:56] <bobbobbins> undecim: I can’t unfortunately…its not the way they want it done
[19:56] <julian-delphiki> i guess, what sort of separation does it need? I run a big multitenant application that just differentiates based on hostname right now.
[19:56] <julian-delphiki> where they == people that don't understand technology?
[19:57] <bobbobbins> julian-delphiki: I should probably find out, all I really know is that each site needs a full copy of it
[19:57] <bobbobbins> each site meaning each physical group they give this app to
[19:57] <julian-delphiki> I see. This sounds like a nightmare that isn't being very well thought out.
[19:58] <bobbobbins> julian-delphiki: yup…some idiot started it then left, and now I’m stuck with the mess
[19:58] <undecim> bobbobbins, Have you looked into what kind of work it would take to make it more portable?
[19:58] <theadmin> bobbobbins: What's the site like? Does it use a database engine?
[19:58] <theadmin> bobbobbins: What language is it coded in? And so on.
[19:58] <bobbobbins> yeah, its a mysql database
[19:58]  * julian-delphiki bets its php / mysql
[19:58] <bobbobbins> julian-delphiki: you’d be correct
[19:58] <bobbobbins> (again, not my idea)
[19:59] <bobbobbins> the site is php…the backend processes are python
[19:59] <theadmin> Oh, geez.
[19:59] <julian-delphiki> God I'd have to be paid so much money to write php these days
[19:59] <theadmin> That's... a mess.
[20:00] <theadmin> bobbobbins: Well, yeah, a Virtualbox machine would be a good bet. Make one and, well, configure it, then export it as an OVA. The most your people will have to do is install Virtualbox and import the "appliance" file
[20:00] <theadmin> (that is, the .ova)
[20:00] <undecim> Yeah, just hope they aren't using Virtualbox on a Windows machine
[20:00] <theadmin> There's also ThinApp
[20:00] <theadmin> undecim: Why not? The host wouldn't matter.
[20:00] <bartbes> I'm getting corrupted double-linked list errors from the apt cronjob, does anyone have any ideas what it could be, and how I could fix it?
[20:00] <bobbobbins> theadmin: ok, thats the route i was thinking would be best…but i do have a feeling almost all of them will be on windows machines
[20:00] <undecim> theadmin, The antivirus software does
[20:00] <theadmin> undecim: Hmm?
[20:01] <theadmin> undecim: I am running Virtualbox on Windows. Some versions had... problems with antiviruses but they're mostly gone now.
[20:01] <lionrouge> hi !
[20:01] <undecim> theadmin, yeah, you can use old versions
[20:01] <lionrouge> tell me please why there are no linux-headers-3.13.0-37 in the repo ?
[20:01] <bobbobbins> i don’t think i can use a thin client, the database data is what needs to be kept separate
[20:01] <undecim> How recently was the antivirus problem fixed?
[20:02] <theadmin> undecim: In the previous version, I think. But then it appeared just in the version before that.
[20:02] <undecim> bobbobbins, You mentioned that this would be used on "sites", which is a physical location. Is it common for several people to be at one site?
[20:02] <theadmin> So... There's only one version that's "bad"
[20:02] <theadmin> Not a very high probability
[20:02] <en1gma> is there an easy way to make a desktop shortcut for /usr/bin/gqrx
[20:03] <bobbobbins> undecim: I have to get clarification…i don’t know if its going to be accessed by people only on site, or if they expect each one to spin up a full website that the public can reach
[20:03] <bubbasaures> lionrouge, http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/devel/linux-headers-3.13.0-37-generic     are you sure
[20:03] <en1gma> i keep have to open up term everytime
[20:03] <undecim> theadmin, Also, have you tried running a virtualbox on a CPU without hardware support?
[20:03] <no_gravity> Hello! Are there any good speech recognition systems for ubuntu? So I can control the windows and write text via speech?
[20:03] <undecim> bobbobbins, So is the primary function of this app to create a web page?
[20:03] <theadmin> undecim: No. I don't think I have anything that ancient laying around.
[20:04] <cbk> quit
[20:04] <bobbobbins> undecim: yeah, its a survey website
[20:04] <bobbobbins> and because its sensitive survey info, they want to keep everything compartmentalized I guess
[20:05] <undecim> bobbobbins, so this app will be running on a web server anyways?
[20:05] <nobody__> anybody here knowledgable about intel graphics not working with ubuntu?
[20:06] <lionrouge> bubbasaures, apt says it's unavailable but mentioned in other package's requirements
[20:06] <lionrouge> i don't know what does it mean
[20:06] <bobbobbins> undecim: yeah, thats the fuzzy part I’m asking about now…I’m not sure exactly what they expect, since these people aren’t going to have webservers…I’m thinking the website just needs to be available on their network, but thats a guess
[20:06] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: There is that header package .. see -> apt-cache search linux-headers <- . What are you trying to do ?
[20:07] <bubbasaures> no_gravity, There are more in linux in general, here is a link to look through, while you wait, http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/speech-recognition
[20:07] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, i'm trying to do sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.13.0-37-generic
[20:07] <undecim> bobbobbins, Is the site something that can separate from the rest of the code? i.e. user sets up the survey, which generates the PHP/MySQL code, which can be uploaded to the host? Or are the PHP and Python scripts tied together?
[20:08] <bobbobbins> well the php and python both hit the mysql database
[20:08] <bobbobbins> but they’re separate from each other
[20:08] <undecim> bobbobbins, Do they have to work with the same data, or are they working on different tables?
[20:08] <no_gravity> bubbasaures: i googled around quite a while. did not find any success stories yet.
[20:08] <bobbobbins> undecim: yup, same data
[20:09] <bubbasaures> no_gravity, I have not addressed you.
[20:09] <bubbasaures> sorry my bad, I'm doing a lot here
[20:09] <theadmin> bobbobbins: I'm not sure this will work for you, but have a look at Spoon.net
[20:09] <theadmin> It seems to be... interesting, and probably will pull what you want off
[20:09] <theadmin> Not too sure though.
[20:10] <undecim> bobbobbins, how much Python code is there?
[20:10] <no_gravity> guess ill try running dragon inside a windows vm then.
[20:10] <bobbobbins> theadmin: wow, thanks, i’ll check it out
[20:11] <pauletin> hi, how do I symlink /tmp to /run/tmp in a correct way? It is said to be an optional feature of /run.
[20:11] <bobbobbins> undecim: not much, a few hundred lines
[20:11] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: It is there .. apt-cache show linux-headers-3.13.0-37-generic >> Package: linux-headers-3.13.0-37-generic >> Filename: pool/main/l/linux/linux-headers-3.13.0-37-generic_3.13.0-37.64_amd64.deb . // maybe post the errors you get to a pastebin for the channels to see ?
[20:11] <bubbasaures> no_gravity, https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ubuntu+speech+recognition+  here is my search, you might look through, I know nothing in this other than to give you links.
[20:11] <no_gravity> bubbasaures: i googled around quite a while already. did not find any success stories yet.
[20:11] <undecim> bobbobbins, if it were me, I'd probably attempt to port the python code to PHP, then you'd have a PHP/MySQL app that can be deployed on a web server. A desktop, too, if you setup the server components
[20:11] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, i have a localized version of apt - it would be a bit complicated
[20:12] <undecim> bobbobbins, unless there's something OS-Specific about the code
[20:12] <bubbasaures> no_gravity, You are repeating yourself, what answer do you want when I tell you it is not an area I know?
[20:12] <bobbobbins> undecim: well there are a few cron jobs
[20:15] <bobbobbins> it would be nice if i could just deploy something to store the data on the machines, and keep the rest in one place
[20:16] <undecim> bobbobbins, I think such a deployment would raise similar privacy concerns to running it all in one place
[20:16] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, here it is: http://pastebin.com/67qttEjX
[20:17] <bobbobbins> undecim: yeah, i suppose you’re right, the data would still all be going to one place before hitting the database
[20:18] <will> Can anyone help with this? - http://askubuntu.com/questions/573372/preparing-ubuntu-to-be-turned-off-unexpectedly
[20:18] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: look'n at your http://pastebin.com/67qttEjX .
[20:18] <DexterF> hi
[20:19] <DexterF> I can just dd an ubuntu iso to a usb stick and then it is bootable like the live cd?
[20:19] <bubbasaures> DexterF, Yep.
[20:19] <DexterF> great
[20:19] <DexterF> thanks
[20:20] <bubbasaures> no prob that was an easy one. ;)
[20:20] <nobody__> intel graphics card not showing on additional drivers anyone know how to solve this?
[20:20] <nobody__> it also disables me from controlling the screen brightness
[20:20] <undecim> nobody__, when do you get when you type "lspci | grep VGA" in a terminal?
[20:21] <bubbasaures> nobody__, never seen an intel in the additional, what is the exact issue?
[20:21] <undecim> Probably it's not a lack of drivers preventing you from changing brightness
[20:21] <undecim> but a misconfiguration
[20:22] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: I do not know .. are you in fact running release 14.04 ?
[20:22] <nobody__> bashing-om, undecim, bubbasaures tried to help me yesturday but couldnt figure it out maybe he can inform you guys if hes still arround
[20:23] <bubbasaures> nobody__ Nah, I know I was here all the time.
[20:23] <bubbasaures> not what exactly though
[20:23] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, nope, i have 14.10
[20:24] <nobody__> bubbasaures, ucdecim  http://pastebin.com/K7fh2tK1
[20:24] <lionrouge> and i hate it. AMD fglrx stopped working and i need those headers to try to build beta from driver from AMD site
[20:24] <lionrouge> people, don't upgrade to 14.10
[20:25] <bubbasaures> !fud | lionrouge
[20:25] <nobody__> undecim http://pastebin.com/K7fh2tK1 thats what i get the grep command doesnt do anything
[20:25] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: That would explain it .. Why do you want an out-of-release package ? can be huge dependency issues .
[20:25] <Neldogz> Hi everyone, been having some issues with WoL (wake on lan) and Ubutu 14.10. If I enable WoL in my bios and also have an external USB hard drive plugged in.. the machine will not shut down. It simply reboots everytime I attempt to shut down.. Anyone here experience this?
[20:26] <undecim> nobody__, is the lack of backlight control the only symptom?
[20:27] <Neldogz> The WoL and external hard drive work just fine if i boot into windows 7 - dual booting
[20:27] <nobody__> undecim when i play hd videos my screen tears, also before this i had to set splash nomodeset because my screen was flickering
[20:27] <bubbasaures> nobody__, I seriously doubt I could help you any better than Bashing-om so I think best left with them. ;)
[20:27] <nobody__> bubbasaures ok np thanks
[20:28] <Bashing-om> nobody__: undecim -> sudo lshw -C disply <- shows no driver loaded .. unable to effect geting a driver loaded .
[20:28] <undecim> nobody__, can you paste /var/log/Xorg.log , /var/log/kern.log ?
[20:29] <whazzup> does anyone klnow about hardware? is a slower Quadcore better than a faster duocore for a non gamer? and how important are the processor generations? AMD vs Intel for linux?
[20:29] <undecim> whazzup, I would get a slow quad over a fast duo
[20:30] <undecim> whazzup, unless the duo was more than twice as fast
[20:30] <Neldogz> whazzup, i agree with undecim
[20:31] <whazzup> but I heard that you can't just multiply cores with speed
[20:31] <undecim> whazzup, Yeah, its more complicated than cores*speed
[20:31] <undecim> like if you are running single-core apps, they will be slower on a slow speed
[20:31] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, thanks for your help i think i will reinstall my system
[20:31] <nobody__> undecim it says itss more then 512 mb on paste bin so i cant post it the kern log
[20:32] <Neldogz> undecim, not any slower than you would be able to detect
[20:32] <whazzup> does stuff like Mathematica (very heavy computational software ) go better with speed or cores?
[20:32] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: That is one solution, but drastic .. over a graphics driver, yes ?
[20:32] <undecim> nobody__, which one?
[20:33] <whazzup> that is like the most I need from my laptop, my last had problems when I was running mathematica
[20:33] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, yup
[20:33] <SuperLag> If / is on something other than the first hard drive, where should you be putting GRUB?
[20:33] <undecim> whazzup, I would expect Mathematica to handle multiple cores well
[20:33] <lionrouge> and about this headers - for some reasons i have kernel 3.13.0-37 now
[20:33] <undecim> whazzup, But some specific operations may be single-core computations
[20:33] <nobody__> undecim theres 3 xorg logs : xorg.0.log, xorg.0.log.old , xorg.1.log
[20:34] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: Can we not purge the proprietary driver and (re-)install from the repo ? And all be good then ?
[20:34] <nobody__> undecim the kern log is more then 512
[20:34] <whazzup> undecim: ok thanks
[20:34] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, i tried it multiple times, it's just broken. And even beta is "14.04 compatible"
[20:35] <lionrouge> and the open-source is not that good. It doesn't provide good 3d acceleration and has bad fan control
[20:35] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: With a kernel issue and other problems, ya might be better served just to install 14.04 LTS . confidence factor .
[20:36] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, i had it before update and everything was just great
[20:36] <whazzup> but AMD vs intel doesn't make a difference for linux?
[20:37] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: depending on the card .. there are propritary drivers from ATI available in the repo ..
[20:37] <lionrouge> whazzup, no it does
[20:37] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, yeah, fglrx and fglrx-updates
[20:37] <lionrouge> both doesn't support 14.10 yet
[20:37] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: yep updates break OEM drivers . They are not-ubuntu .
[20:37] <undecim> nobody__, That's strange for your kern.log to be so big.
[20:38] <lionrouge> whazzup, at the moment NVidia has much better linux drivers (both prop. and open-source) than AMD
[20:38] <undecim> nobody__, Mine are in the 25KiB area
[20:39] <Jordan_U> nobody__: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[20:39] <nobody__> undecim yea every command that bashing had me run was bigger then he expected
[20:39] <undecim> nobody__, do you have a /var/log/kern.log.1?
[20:40] <nobody__> Jordan_U http://pastebin.com/1dzdk6F1
[20:40] <nobody__> undecim no just normal kern
[20:41] <jhutchins> whazzup: The thing that makes the difference is how well the software does multithreading.  If it's written to make good use of multiple cores, and the task you're doing is broad enough to benefit, then more cores is good.
[20:42] <undecim> nobody__, Mine rotate like your Xorg does. I'm on 14.04 and have kern.log.1, kern.log.2.gz, etc...
[20:42] <jhutchins> whazzup: If you're doing a single-thread task, or a task that can't be split into as many threads as you have cores, then clock speed will win out.
[20:43] <jhutchins> whazzup: I would think that processing large datasets with mathematica would take good advantage of multiple cores.
[20:43] <undecim> whazzup, in my experience, you get more bang for your buck with AMD
[20:43] <nobody__> undecim yea i have no idea why it does this i just installed it on sunday after i bought the laptop
[20:43] <whazzup> lionrouge: and is NVIDIA = intel?
[20:43] <whazzup> undecim: yes that is what I see looking at the prices too
[20:44] <whazzup> but browsing, watching videos and (hobby programming) wouldn't make use of multiple cores right?
[20:45] <undecim> whazzup, they won't make use of clock speed, either
[20:45] <undecim> whazzup, some video codecs use multiple cores
[20:46] <kristian__> brasil
[20:47] <kristian__> alguém do brasil
[20:47] <DJones> !br | kristian__
[20:47] <undecim> whazzup, multi-cores lag less. There is usually core or two that aren't being overloaded by CPU-intensive apps (whether it's something you have crunching numbers in the background or some application that's misbehaving), and other apps that need to do something "right now", like typing in a code window will use the available core
[20:48] <undecim> nobody__, What is the total size of your kern.log?
[20:48] <undecim> nobody__, Because you shouldn't have more than a few lines per day in a kern.log unless something is generating messages
[20:49] <MotherMGA> Hello, I've been having intermittent wireless disconnects. It happens about 1-2 times per day. Wireless is stable for all of my other laptops. Network manager shows that I'm connected when it goes out but I cannot ping my router. Anyone know what this is or how I can troubleshoot? Ubuntu 14.10 using the RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter (rtl8723be driver)
[20:49] <nobody__> undecim it says 1.2MB
[20:50] <undecim> nobody__, Well that's nowhere near 512MB....
[20:50] <Neldogz> Hi everyone, been having some issues with WoL (wake on lan) and Ubutu 14.10. If I enable WoL in my bios and also have an external USB hard drive plugged in.. the machine will not shut down. It simply reboots everytime I attempt to shut down.. Anyone here experience this?
[20:50] <Neldogz> The WoL and external hard drive work just fine if i boot into windows 7 - dual booting
[20:51] <MotherMGA> Also when it fails, nm-tool output shows my speed as 7Mb/s when its normally 72 working. Thats the only difference in output.
[20:51] <undecim> nobody__, Maybe try a different paste?
[20:51] <undecim> paste tool*
[20:51] <whazzup> undecim: ah ok that sounds very good. only thing bugging me on my old laptop was that when I had mathematica open in background and a lot of tabs he sometimes liked to freeze
[20:51] <undecim> MotherMGA, What model wireless card?
[20:51] <MotherMGA> lshw says its  RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[20:52] <nobody__> undecim how do i get or use that
[20:52] <undecim> whazzup, well if Mathematica uses all the cores, you might get it with a quad, too.
[20:52] <undecim> nobody__, fpaste.org
[20:53] <undecim> nobody__, Not sure if there is a limit on there. HTML on the page doesn't suggest one.
[20:53] <whazzup> ah damn I am so bad at making decisions :D
[20:53] <nobody__> undecim after i hit paste nothing happens
[20:54] <undecim> whazzup, If you're looking at a few specific processors, you could post them here for a discussion
[20:54] <undecim> nobody__, Are you sure you copied?
[20:54] <nobody__> yea
[20:54] <MotherMGA> undecim: http://pastebin.com/UfrH67DR
[20:54] <undecim> nobody__, Can you paste them anywhere else?
[20:54] <nobody__> no i mean the paste to upload
[20:54] <whazzup> undecim: thanks I will maybe do that. But graphic card doesn't interest me at all as none gamer right?
[20:55] <nobody__> undecim i dont know anywhere else
[20:55] <undecim> whazzup, new generations CPUs have builtin GPUs
[20:55] <nobody__> undecim unless you dont mind google docs
[20:55] <undecim> nobody__, Docs works for me
[20:55] <SuperLag> Can you put the bootloader on a drive that doesn't have your root partition on it?
[20:55] <undecim> SuperLag, yes
[20:55] <undecim> SuperLag, but unless you have a good reason, don't
[20:57] <SuperLag> undecim: I have 3 drives in this system, and the one where I want to put / is the smallest one, and it's /dev/sdc
[20:57] <SuperLag> undecim: one large drive is full of VMs already, and the other large drive is going to be /home
[20:57] <undecim> MotherMGA, Have you looked at http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/170012/rtl8723be-realtek-wifi-card-driver-not-working-on-ubuntu-14-04
[20:58] <MotherMGA> undecim: no. looking now
[20:58] <nobody__> undecim looks like docs isnt working either script keeps having issue when i cntrl v
[20:58] <undecim> SuperLag: Boot stuff doesn't usually take up a lot of space
[20:58] <MotherMGA> so recompile drivers... great.
[20:58] <undecim> nobody__, Install pastebinit
[20:58] <undecim> MotherMGA, isn't it?
[20:59] <mac__> hy i got problem's after fresh install of ubuntu 14 lts..
[20:59] <MotherMGA> undecim. better than it being broken
[20:59] <stoogenmeyer> hey how would you map the CAPSLOCK key to the left CTRL key in Vim ?
[20:59] <undecim> SuperLag, how much space is your /boot directory taking up?
[21:01] <glisigno1i> Hello! Anyone familiar with unattended-upgrades? Specifically why it doesn't seem to detect packages to be 'autoremoved'?
[21:01] <undecim> MotherMGA, launchpad says the bug you're describing is fixed with linux 3.13.0-29.53
[21:02] <nobody__> undecim i ran sudo apt-get install pastebinit what now i cant find it
[21:02] <mac__> any geek can help me out?  got problem's after fresh install of ubuntu 14 lts.. can't update
[21:02] <undecim> nobody__, It's a CLI command
[21:02] <MotherMGA> undesim: yes, but this says its not: http://askubuntu.com/questions/457341/wifi-drops-and-wont-reconnect-until-reboot-14-04-with-rtl8723be
[21:02] <jhutchins> mac__: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[21:02] <Prezident> Howto read "you have mails" in ssh?
[21:02] <MotherMGA> it does give a way to fix it without rebooting though `rmmod rtl8723be && modprobe rtl8723be`
[21:02] <undecim> MotherMGA, Meant to say check your kernel version first, just to be sure
[21:03] <MotherMGA> I'm on 3.16
[21:03] <mac__> i got fresh install of 14.4. lts.. after install i removed cd, reboot, want to update, but got errors instead..
[21:03] <nobody__> undecim soory im a noob what do i do
[21:03] <undecim> nobody__, in a terminal, do "pastebinit < /var/log/kern.log"
[21:03] <undecim> nobody__, And that should return a link to the paste
[21:04] <Prezident> Hello, how can i read my "mails" in terminal when i login to ssh i see a mesage " You got mail"
[21:04] <undecim> Prezident, "mail"?
[21:04] <mac__> jhutchins,  tnx
[21:04] <glisigno1i> Prezident: That would require a mail client
[21:04] <whazzup> how do I find out if graphic cards / processors work under linux / ubuntu?
[21:04] <nobody__> undecim http://paste.ubuntu.com/9735151/
[21:05] <Prezident> You have mail.
[21:05] <Prezident> Last login: Tue Jan 13 22:02:12 2015 from
[21:05] <Prezident> looks like this
[21:05] <SuperLag> undecim: I didn't have a separate /boot. I separated stuff out like this: /, /opt, /usr/local/, /home, /opt/vm
[21:05] <Pici> Prezident: type: mail
[21:06] <mac__> jhutchins,   i am ready with other computer..
[21:07] <MotherMGA> undecim: thanks for your help.
[21:07] <undecim> nobody__, You never did paste Xorg.log?
[21:08] <nobody__> undecim which of the three do you want
[21:08] <undecim> nobody__, 0
[21:08] <undecim> nobody__, 0 is the current X session, 1 was the last session, etc.
[21:09] <DJones> After installing updates today via update manager, an error was flagged up, the term.log is http://paste.ubuntu.com/9735153/ with the error shown on line 62 specifically, "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.16.0-29-generic (x86_64)" this is on 14.10 with nvidia-prime installed, is the error something to worry about
[21:09] <mac__> jhutchins,  are u busy?
[21:09] <nobody__> undecim http://paste.ubuntu.com/9735212/
[21:10] <mac__> any geek can help me out?  got problem's after fresh install of ubuntu 14 lts.. can't update, errors returned.. need pc to work
[21:10] <mac__> please
[21:10] <nickander> which errors?
[21:11] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, I am trying to install ubuntu 14.04 32 bit from both usb and DVD, both of which fail on the splash screen that says 'ubuntu' with the dots below it.
[21:11] <mac__> i don't know yet.. newb..
[21:11] <mac__> and system crashes every few minutes
[21:11] <mac__> like freeze
[21:12] <MisteryJohn> may i request some help regarding a command ?
[21:12] <Pinkamena_D> yes
[21:13] <MisteryJohn>  so .. i need sed to do the following : replace every occurence of the following in a file : [text1](text2) with [[text2|text1]], with text1 and text2 being mostly any string and keep the []()| as they are on the pattern. Also, can i do this with awk ? how ?
[21:13] <bubbasaures> mac__, Pastebin the update run from the terminal.
[21:13] <mac__> nickander, working
[21:13] <bubbasaures> !pastebin | mac__
[21:14] <francesco_> list
[21:14] <Neldogz> Hi everyone, been having some issues with WoL (wake on lan) and Ubutu 14.10. If I enable WoL in my bios and also have an external USB hard drive plugged in.. the machine will not shut down. It simply reboots everytime I attempt to shut down.. Anyone here experience this?
[21:14] <Neldogz> The WoL and external hard drive work just fine if i boot into windows 7 - dual booting
[21:14] <bubbasaures> francesco_, No wares here
[21:14] <undecim> nobody__, Have you seen http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/intel-linux-graphics-installer.html
[21:15] <MisteryJohn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9735275/ sorry for that, didn't know the rules
[21:15] <nobody__> undecim no not yet should i install that?
[21:15] <undecim> nobody__, It's the Intel drivers from Intel
[21:16] <undecim> nobody__, It's not part of the official Ubuntu-supported packages. this is from the people who made the graphics card to begin with.
[21:16] <nobody__> undecim how would i go about installing that
[21:16] <undecim> nobody__, section on the page: "Download Intel Linux Graphics Installer"
[21:16] <undecim> nobody__, Has all the instructions there
[21:17] <nobody__> undecim you sure its fine? doesnt say 14.04
[21:17] <mac__> bubbasaures,  paste.ubuntu.com/9735322/
[21:18] <undecim> nobody__, On the first Intel link on the page, there is another link to the "new" download page at https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[21:18] <undecim> nobody__, There is a link there for 14.04
[21:18] <nobody__> undecim would i need to install the graphics release?
[21:19] <whazzup> does anyone know of problems with either Radeon R5 M230 2 GB or AMD HD 8750M  on linux?
[21:19] <undecim> nobody__, you need the "Graphics Installer"
[21:20] <nobody__> undecim alright im intalling and running the gui now
[21:20] <undecim> nobody__, Let me know how it works
[21:20] <whazzup> undecim: I am know deciding between http://amzn.to/1xXK9no this and http://amzn.to/1Bl9Rnt this
[21:20] <nobody__> undecim how do i go about uninstalling the graphics installer after words or do i leave it.. i havent learned how to uninstall stuff yet
[21:21] <Guest1_> HI.
[21:21] <whazzup> first one has no windows installed which I appreciate, but second has quadcore
[21:21] <Guest1_> I want to compile a library and an app that uses it and have few questions relating to that. How do I update? Do I just compile the new version normally and everything is replaced and leaves no unneeded trash? Also if there're any possible problems when compiling one part (library) and installing other things from repos?
[21:21] <Bashing-om> mac__: Try -> sudo rm -fr /var/lib/apt/lists , sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- to clear that error condition.
[21:22] <mac__> tnx
[21:22] <DexterF> why cant I install openssh-server in 14.04 live?
[21:22] <DexterF> it keeps bothering me with dependencies and then won't let me chose them
[21:22] <SuperLag> GRUB boot menu, I choose "Ubuntu" and I get a blinking cursor. This is getting so discouraging. :(
[21:22] <rww> DexterF: sudo apt-get update, if you haven't already
[21:23] <undecim> whazzup, Details Processor specs: http://ark.intel.com/products/72056/Intel-Core-i5-3230M-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-3_20-GHz-BGA   http://products.amd.com/pages/notebookapudetail.aspx?id=112&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
[21:23] <Pinkamena_D> When trying to install ubuntu, I turned on nomodeset to see messages. The computer freezes at the item 'Starting Failsafe Boot Delay'
[21:23] <Pinkamena_D> this has been frozen about 10 minutes now
[21:24] <DexterF> rww that did it, thanks
[21:24] <rww> :)
[21:24] <punkgeek> what is kubuntu live session password?
[21:24] <punkgeek> :D
[21:24] <DexterF> when I chose german in live, what do I have to do to get german keyb laout right away?
[21:24] <undecim> whazzup, they look pretty matched on everything but clock speed vs cores
[21:25] <mac__> Bashing-om, .. is error with mkdir normal? invalid option.. enetring the last sentece
[21:25] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: Why 32 bit? "nomodeset" is *not* the correct parameter if all that you want to do is see boot messages instead of the splash screen, for that you want to just remove the "splash" and possibly "quiet" kernel parameters.
[21:25] <whazzup> undecim: ok then I would take the quad core I guess
[21:25] <Pinkamena_D> I removed them too
[21:25] <Pinkamena_D> 32 bit because the computer is old
[21:26] <Pinkamena_D> I installed 12.04 on a thinkpad T60 in the past, I dont know what is wrong with this
[21:27] <DexterF> cannot ssh to root@livecd even after setting a password from #. what now?
[21:28] <squinty> mac__:  maybe try the following   sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists && sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/apt/lists/partial && sudo apt-get update    (you can just copy paste that as all one command)
[21:28] <mac__> Bashing-om, it worked!!
[21:28] <undecim> DexterF, What error appears?
[21:28] <rww> DexterF: if I recall correctly, Ubuntu disables ssh to root by default, edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[21:28] <mac__> just upgrading for the first time :-)
[21:28] <Bashing-om> mac__: No that is not expected . I see nothing wrong with the mkdir command . did you copy/paste -> such that there is not a error ?
[21:28] <rww> DexterF: (the setting is PermitRootLogin)
[21:28] <squinty> punkgeek:  afaik, there should be no password required for any of the livedvd's
[21:29] <nobody__> undecinm alright gotta restart lets see how it goes
[21:29] <punkgeek> yes i got it thank you
[21:30] <mac__> i did not copy paste.. is on other pc.. but.. i think i get the whole thing together
[21:30] <Bashing-om> mac__: All good now ?
[21:30] <mac__> yes..
[21:31] <mac__> it is installing.. as we speak, thank u very much.. u got a beer in good by me
[21:31] <jhutchins> whazzup: It occurrs to me that mathematica should have benchmarks that show what hardware it likes.
[21:31] <Bashing-om> mac__: Great .. then I wish Happy Trails to You . We have nother adventure next time .
[21:32] <mac__> :-) thank u..  true :-)
[21:35] <nobody__> undecim cant tell everything thing seems the same
[21:36] <undecim> whazzup, I've had no issues running the Radeon GPU in my A10-7850K
[21:37] <nobody__> undecim still cant controll the blacklight of my display
[21:42] <Bashing-om> nobody__: undecim From the log .. backlight is contolled by the graphics driver . Is a driver now loaded ? show -> sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit <- .
[21:42] <OsenpaiX> what? :o
[21:42] <rww> hrm?
[21:44] <jhutchins> Pinkamena_D: The installer doesn't use modeset, so nomodeset is probably not what you want.  Did you checksum the iso file?
[21:44] <nobody__> bashing-om, undecim http://pastebin.com/SDyNbWt4 looks like it did nothing
[21:45] <Bashing-om> nobody__: look;n at your http://pastebin.com/SDyNbWt4 .
[21:46] <Bashing-om> nobody__: undecim .. yuk, yep, no driver loaded ..
[21:46] <undecim> nobody__, I wonder if the fbdev driver is claiming the display before intel loads all the way?
[21:47] <mac__> and i am back.. :-S :-(
[21:47] <mac__> paste.ubuntu.com/9735507
[21:47] <undecim> nobody__, we could try removing the fbdev driver, but it might break Xorg completely until you reinstall it
[21:48] <undecim> nobody__, You would have to be able to reinstall it from the command line to fix if it breaks Xorg
[21:49] <nobody__> undecim alright lets do that later when i get home so i can stay in irc on another computer incase shit goes down
[21:49] <undecim> nobody__, Yeah, plus freenode is "rehubbing" right now
[21:50] <nobody__> undecim that explains why theres all this unceccary text lol
[21:50] <undecim> nobody__, Yeah. there was a message about it earlier, but its easy to miss amidst the chatter
[21:51] <nobody__> undecim yea i usually dont check back irc until it says activity in the tab
[21:51] <mac__> any1 copy?
[21:51] <raub> Back from a split!
[21:52] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: Please try booting without nomodeset, and also without quiet and splash.
[21:52] <Bashing-om> mac__: I did ,, but I do not do 'samba' no experience .. what were you trying to install ?
[21:57] <hydrajump> anyone know if it is possible to show `indicator sys-monitor` on the lightdm unity-greeter screen?
[21:58] <johnb003_> hi, I've been trying to set up a pc router. I have a remote desktop which I want to connect to with another PC on the lan, but somehow it's not working.
[21:59] <johnb003_> If I were trying to access it outside of the network I'd think it'd be a port forwarding problem
[21:59] <johnb003_> but I've got a wired network and my wireless AP with a bridge,....
[22:00] <johnb003_> I can ping the ip, but I cannot connect to the RDP, it works if I use a router though
[22:00] <quatrox> johnb003_: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[22:00] <johnb003_> quatrox it's 1
[22:00] <johnb003_> and net to the wan is working...
[22:01] <HamRadio> I like unity under Ubuntu 14.04
[22:01] <mac__> paste.ubuntu.com/9735507
[22:01] <johnb003_> I just can't seem to connect to the lan computer with Remote desktop
[22:01] <HamRadio> Running Manjaro with Gnome
[22:01] <compdoc> johnb003_, what OS in on the lan computer?
[22:02] <johnb003_> windows 7
[22:02] <mac__> paste.ubuntu.com/9735507
[22:02] <johnb003_> and I'm trying to connect with mac os x
[22:02] <johnb003_> compdoc, it was working fine when I was on the router
[22:02] <compdoc> johnb003_, did you enable remote desktop? its off by default
[22:02] <compdoc> oh, ok
[22:02] <johnb003_> yeah I was using it a bunch until I switched over the the pc as a router
[22:02] <Neldogz> Hi everyone, been having some issues with WoL (wake on lan) and Ubutu 14.10. If I enable WoL in my bios and also have an external USB hard drive plugged in.. the machine will not shut down. It simply reboots everytime I attempt to shut down.. Anyone here experience this?
[22:02] <Neldogz> The WoL and external hard drive work just fine if i boot into windows 7 - dual booting
[22:03] <johnb003_> a different one running ubuntu
[22:03] <compdoc> so youve forwarded the port? 3389 tcp?
[22:03] <johnb003_> compdoc, nope
[22:03] <johnb003_> compdoc, I didn't forward any ports because I'm not accessing it from the wan
[22:04] <johnb003_> I'm trying to access it from the lan.
[22:04] <johnb003_> with a local IP
[22:04] <johnb003_> there's no question of which PC I am trying to communicate with as there would be with an external connection
[22:05] <quatrox> johnb003_: I am still a bit confused about how your current configuration is, so it is hard to help
[22:05] <compdoc> johnb003_, yeah, tell us about the lan. what about this router?
[22:06] <johnb003_> mac os x (wireless) connecting to windows 7 RDP, via a ubuntu box (has 2 wired nic and 1 wireless) The wireless and local lan are bridged, and the brdige has nat to the external wired network
[22:07] <compdoc> sounds complicated. you use iptables or anything? what ip addresses are each device?
[22:08] <johnb003_> I have iptables set to accept everything right now to eliminate that as a possibility
[22:10] <johnb003_> the br0 is <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:10] <johnb003_> eth1 and wlan0 don't have ip addresses as they are used by the br0
[22:10] <johnb003_> eth0 is my external connection
[22:13] <Ceri> Is it safe to remove libwacom2 and libwacom-common? As well as the things that apparently have to be removed along with it: gnome-control-center, gnome-power-manager, gnome-session, gnome-settings-daemon, indicator-datetime indicator-power,  indicator-session,  unity-greeter?
[22:13] <quatrox> johnb003_: and you can ping the windows computer from the mac (via the ubuntu router)?
[22:14] <johnb003_> I can ping it yes
[22:14] <johnb003_> I'll try hosting a simple python app that echos packets on a port, and see if it works
[22:15] <leoliuwa> hi everyone
[22:27] <sx777> Guys any tips on how to open goverment PDFs? I'm just getting "To view the full contents of this document, you need a later version of the PDF viewer. You can upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Reader"
[22:28] <svetlana> sx777: fiddle with your browser to download the actual thing (if you give me url i might be able to look at it within 12 hours)
[22:28] <quatrox> sx777: You could try with evince (document viewer)
[22:29] <sx777> svetlana: will try, so far LibreDraw and MasterPDF failed me
[22:29] <svetlana> do you have the actual file
[22:29] <svetlana> .pdf
[22:30] <sx777> Yes
[22:30] <bubbasaures> sx777, reader 9 from adobe is our last one.
[22:30] <svetlana> if you do, i don't think a pdf reader would be capable of coming up with that error message, unless the document has javascript in it
[22:30] <svetlana> which program is the error message coming from?
[22:31] <sx777> svetlana: Both MasterPDf and LibreDraw
[22:31] <svetlana> ok, i suspect i can't help more without looking at what the file contains
[22:31] <sx777> Sec.
[22:32] <quatrox> sx777: what happens if you try to open it with evince (or kpdf)?
[22:32] <Basketball> what is the best calendar app that can sync with google calendar
[22:33] <sx777> Evince isn't working , here's the form
[22:33] <sx777> http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/index.asp
[22:33] <Pinkamena_D> trying to install R latest version on ubuntu, I added a new source line to sources and ran an update / upgrade / clean / autoclean. No matter what I do I still get 'you have held broken packages'
[22:33] <sx777> Form is IMM5708
[22:34] <Pinkamena_D> core depends base which depends core
[22:34] <Pinkamena_D> is there a way to fix this
[22:35] <svetlana> sx777: i am on a borked computer without X on it, but i'll be able to try on a proper computer within 12 hours; if no-one here helps, you can leave me your email in pm
[22:35] <svetlana> i do hope someone tries to download that thing and look at it though :)
[22:35] <quatrox> Pinkamena_D: it should print information on which command you need to run as well
[22:36] <sx777> svetlana: спасибо but I'm working on limited time :)
[22:36] <quatrox> sx777: I get to a page with lots of links.  Does it matter which one I try?
[22:36] <svetlana> quatrox: use drop down at the top
[22:36] <sx777> quotrox: Select form IMM 5708
[22:36] <svetlana> quatrox: select IMM5708 and click 'submit', it should ask you to dl a file
[22:36] <Pinkamena_D> here is what it says: https://bpaste.net/show/2db1e8d762ba
[22:37] <Pinkamena_D> I never really understood this package manager well. It says 'but it is not going to be installed' but does not explain why not.
[22:37] <nobody__> undecim alrightt im ready to try to uninstall the thing you suggested
[22:40] <quatrox> sx777: interesting.  In evince I can see the table of content on the left and only one page is displayed showing that text
[22:41] <sx777> quotrox: Same exact problem
[22:44] <nikofoko> ciao
[22:45] <nikofoko> !list
[22:45] <hydrajump> where are the default indicators stored, .e.g /usr/share/unity/indicators/com.canonical.indicator.datetime
[22:46] <hydrajump> "ObjectPath=/com/canonical/indicator/datetime" where is that on the FS?
[22:46] <sx777> svetlana and quatrox thanks for your time ,I'll try with 9.5.5. version of adobe or install windows from VM. Bye :D
[22:52] <ko3t> Hi! I am trying to find a how to about installing IBM Informix on Ubuntu Utopic (a client asked if I can do that). Any advice? I googled but it seems to find only client related stuff
[22:53] <mbalmer> want an honest answer ko3t?
[22:54] <ko3t> NO!!! Please, just not the host one
[22:54] <ko3t> honest
[22:54] <ikonia> ko3t: the installer is a standard set of shell scripts
[22:54] <ikonia> ko3t: so if the version is supported on linux - components that are available in utopic, you will be fine
[22:54] <ko3t> oh. so no weird libraries
[22:54] <mbalmer> ko3t, well, then...
[22:54] <ikonia> ko3t: I'd certainly be asking IBM for the install requirements and support requirements
[22:54] <bubbasaures> ko3t, Their page shows support in linux.
[22:55] <ko3t> yes, but it's few years old
[22:55] <ko3t> libraries change
[22:55] <ikonia> ko3t: I suspect you'll find problems as RHEL 4 / 5 is supported, meaning it will be expecting quite old versions of core libraries
[22:55] <bubbasaures> ko3t, Did not say to use it, just that there was/is linux suport
[22:56] <ko3t> right
[22:56] <ko3t> sad story
[22:56] <mbalmer> sounds so.  but could easily have a happy end.
[22:58] <ko3t> yep, that's what broadband is for
[22:58] <ikonia> ?
[22:58] <ko3t> May be I will try Windows or OSX. Wish it was linux thought
[22:58] <mbalmer> what is broadband in this context?
[22:58] <ko3t> to have a happy end
[22:58] <johnb003_> quatrox, just to follow up, the problem was a windows firewall
[22:58] <ikonia> ko3t: it appears to have no windows or Mac OSX support
[22:59] <ikonia> ko3t: but talk to IBM
[22:59] <johnb003_> it got changed from home network to public network
[22:59] <quatrox> ko3t: not sure if this is the client or server, but it mention libstdc++5: http://www.planetids.com/content/informix-ubuntu
[22:59] <quatrox> johnb003_: thanks for the info.  I had a feeling
[23:00] <ko3t> quatrox: this doc says 4, and it seems to be the latest
[23:00] <ko3t> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGU8G_11.70.0/com.ibm.relnotes.doc/notes/ifx_1170xc4/mach/ids_machine_notes_11.70.lin64.html
[23:02] <ko3t> quatrox: it seems to be a rec for Informix CSDK - client SDK
[23:03] <quatrox> k03t: aha
[23:03] <quatrox> ko3t: I am sorry, but I cannot help you
[23:04] <ko3t> quatrox: thank you for what you've done, I really appreciate it
[23:05] <ko3t> thank you all, good people of #Ubuntu
[23:05] <nobody__> undecim are you online?
[23:28] <Nixus> hey, I can't seem to get my volume control on my keyboard to work on lubuntu 14.04.1
[23:30] <dee> anyone know a safe linux luna kernal upgrade
[23:30] <dee> ??
[23:31] <dee> anyone know a safe linux luna kernal upgrade
[23:31] <IdleOne> what is linux luna?
[23:31] <Nixus> elementary linux luna?
[23:32] <bubbasaures> Nixus, Look at the keyboard gui.
[23:32] <wagle> how do i clear a (bogus) false negative from the DNS cache?
[23:32] <dee> linux elementary
[23:32] <IdleOne> ask them
[23:32] <IdleOne> this is Ubuntu support
[23:32] <dee> how
[23:32] <IdleOne> check their website for support options and see if they have an IRC channel
[23:32] <dee> linux elementary is ubuntu based
[23:32] <Nixus> ok, I'm in there
[23:33] <bubbasaures> Nixus, look in sound and assign keys you want
[23:33] <IdleOne> dee: based on and equal to are not the same
[23:33] <dee> ok thank you bye
[23:34] <Nixus> sound? there are three tabs: general, input method and advanced
[23:34] <undecim> nobody__, ping
[23:34] <Nixus> I think it's just for changing the language
[23:34] <nobody__> undecim ready?
[23:34] <undecim> nobody__,
[23:34] <undecim> nobody__, yeah*
[23:35] <bubbasaures> Nixus, I have not used lubuntu for awhile, look around for the volume up and down, if you find them click on each and assign the key prompts you want.
[23:35] <nobody__> undecim alright what do i do
[23:35] <undecim> So, to uninstall fbdev, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-fbdev"
[23:35] <undecim> nobody__, If it breaks your X server, you'll have to log into the command line with your username and password
[23:35] <bubbasaures> Nixus, A picture in imagebin of what you see if stuck might help.
[23:35] <bubbasaures> !imagebin | Nixus
[23:36] <undecim> nobody__, And run "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-fbdev" to get the fbdev driver back
[23:36] <nobody__> alright lets hope it doesnt break
[23:36] <undecim> nobody__, You may also need to uninstall vesa
[23:37] <nobody__> undecim what do i do to uninstall
[23:37] <undecim> nobody__, that's the xserver-xorg-video-vesa package (same as other, but with 'vesa' instead of 'fbdev'
[23:38] <undecim> nobody__, Do "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-fbdev"
[23:38] <undecim> nobody__, And to reinstall, you run the same command (press the UP key) but change the word "remove" to "install"
[23:39] <undecim> nobody__, You'll have to uninstall the drivers, reboot, and if X isn't working, you run the "install" command to put them back
[23:39] <nobody__> undecim so im removing and then reinstalling
[23:39] <nobody__> ok
[23:39] <undecim> nobody__, you don't need to reinstall if it works after uninstall
[23:39] <nobody__> ok
[23:40] <undecim> If the intel driver STILL doesn't take over the card after removing these two, then you'll be stuck at a command prompt (white text on a black screen), untill you log into the command prompt and run the install command
[23:40] <nobody__> undecim alright uninstalled both of em now just restart?
[23:40] <undecim> yup
[23:41] <bubbasaures> Nixus, Not sure you knew this upon choosing lubuntu but it is more config based than gui's to change things, still easy to run, just a little more skill set stuff.
[23:42] <Nixus> I know. I wanna try challenge myself and learn more, instead of always using gui stuff
[23:42] <nobody__> undecim it says black box login so im assuming it didnt worrk and reinstall?
[23:42] <bubbasaures> Nixus, Good, you will do fine I would bet. ;)
[23:42] <undecim> nobody__, correct
[23:42] <Nixus> I hope...
[23:43] <bubbasaures> Nixus, Took me about 6 months with ubuntu to figure out what not to do, started on it though so not sure a vaild time but for me.
[23:44] <nobody__> undecim what do i type to restart from command line
[23:44] <undecim> nobody__, Control-Alt-Delete will do it
[23:44] <undecim> nobody__, Or sudo reboot
[23:44] <Nixus> yeah, I spent about 5-6 months in xubuntu, just trying this out
[23:44] <undecim> Nixus, I prefer Lubuntu over Xubuntu
[23:45] <nobody__> undecim back to the way it was. what now?
[23:46] <undecim> nobody__, Do you have nomodeset on?
[23:46] <nobody__> yea
[23:46] <Nixus> ok, I've always stuck with XFCE until now. I don't want to run something like KDE because performance is a concern
[23:46] <undecim> nobody__, How does the system behave with it off?
[23:46] <nobody__> undecim scren flickers like crazy
[23:47] <nahuel_> sorry i need the dir of the spanish chanel please
[23:48] <bazhang> !es
[23:48] <undecim> nobody__, Is it unusable?
[23:48] <nobody__> no
[23:48] <nobody__> if i leave it too long screen turns black
[23:48] <undecim> nobody__, Can you disable nomodeset, reboot, and paste Xorg.0.log?
[23:49] <nobody__> whats the command to get to the txt page i forgot
[23:49] <undecim> nobody__, pastebinit?
[23:49] <undecim> nobody__, pastebinit < logfile
[23:49] <nobody__> undecim no to disable nomodesett
[23:49] <undecim> nobody__, command | pastebinit
[23:50] <undecim> nobody__, edit /etc/default/grub
[23:50] <undecim> nobody__, I can't seem to recall the grub reconfigure command for after editing... brb, Google.
[23:51] <Nixus> also, I've noticed that when I minimize/maximize my windows, the animation is always going down even though my panel is on the top. Any way to change this?
[23:51] <nobody__> undecim no its fine i gotit
[23:51] <undecim> nobody__, update-grub
[23:51] <nobody__> undecim so just return it back to quiet splash?
[23:51] <undecim> nobody__, After the edit
[23:51] <Bashing-om> undecim: nobody__ -> sudo update-grub <- .
[23:51] <undecim> Bashing-om, oh yeah, sudo ,lol
[23:52] <undecim> nobody__, yes, quiet splash
[23:53] <nobody__> undecim its not letting me save so i gotta go to the file from CLI, but i forgot what you have to type to get to the file
[23:54] <undecim> nobody__, sudo nano /path/to/file
[23:54] <undecim> nobody__, Also, press ALT+F2 and type "gksu gedit" to edit system files with GUI
[23:58] <Nixus> bubbasaures: what distro did you use after ubuntu?