[00:00] <carpii> ok, well thats where its kept
[00:00] <e-rod> ( sorry I don't speak english )
[00:00] <seth> ikonia: no change on the relogging for either user. Anything else I can check? I turned nscd off so I won't be looking at cached ldap info
[00:00] <Slart> gbear142751: perhaps dpkg might be able to do the uninstall
[00:00] <carpii> if you mean the config file which tells X how to use your video card and monitors etc
[00:00] <e-rod> is there another file ?
[00:00] <e-rod> yeah
[00:00] <Shock> Slart: was kinda messy
[00:00] <Shock> gbear142751: was I unclear in some way?:)
[00:01] <gbear142751> Shock: perhaps... did you mention you have tried the adobe v10 for 64bit linux already?
[00:01] <carpii> e-rod, not that I know of. what problem are you having ?
[00:01] <e-rod> it's complicated since I'm a newbie
[00:01] <Shock> gbear142751: no, if it's beta i'm not installing it on my production machine
[00:01] <e-rod> it works fine
[00:02] <e-rod> but some effecs don't work well
[00:02] <e-rod> some compiz effects
[00:02] <carpii> you have single monitor or dual?
[00:02] <gbear142751> Shock: I'm sorry, you said you were a developer... didn't realize it was a production machine
[00:02] <Slart> gbear142751: new command to try  "dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic"
[00:02] <e-rod> yeah  a single
[00:02] <edju> somewhere in the partimage docs, it says that the partition to restore must have the same size as the saved partition.  does that refer to the data to be restored, or the actual partition that was saved?
[00:02] <carpii> hm ok, maybe you need to try a different driver. I dont use compiz since it doesnt work well on dual monitors
[00:02] <Shock> gbear142751: AFAIK there's no stable 64bit java plugin
[00:03] <danbhfive> gbear142751: that will remove other packages, like linux-generic I think.    if you add --force-depends, it will only remove that package
[00:03] <i-pink> somebody can help me with ssh
[00:03] <e-rod> I just thought there were a second file
[00:03] <erUSUL> edju: the partition afaics that's how i read it
[00:03] <DIFH-ice1oot> !ask | i-pink
[00:03] <sidewalk> im having problems draging stuff when double tapping my touchpad
[00:03] <e-rod> well.. I'm doing some updates... maybe it will fix it
[00:03] <i-pink> ha ok..
[00:03] <gbear142751> Shock: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjkyOQ
[00:04] <e-rod> thanks! :)
[00:04] <sidewalk> for example scrollbars and such are problematic moving when double tapping, anyone have any ideas how i solve this? i have a dell laptop
[00:04] <gbear142751> Shock: or more directly : https://jdk6.dev.java.net/6uNea.html
[00:05] <i-pink> i have 2 computers, and i want to make luncher on the first computer to open program on the other computer
[00:05] <gbear142751> danbhfive: Already ran it but it didn't do it completely... slark only a few lines of errors: rmdir: failed to remove `/lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic': Directory not empty
[00:05] <gbear142751> dpkg - warning: while removing linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic, directory `/lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic' not empty so not removed.
[00:05] <yorch> Hi, I've install ubuntu 8.10 64bits on a pc with 4GB ram, but I only get reconized 3.2GB.. bios can see all 4GB.. any ideas please?
[00:05] <Shock> gbear142751: it's Early Access; it's not released as stable
[00:06] <i-pink> i have 2 computers, and i want to make luncher on the first computer to open program on the other computer
[00:06] <erUSUL> yorch: are you sure it 64 bit ubuntu ??
[00:06] <i-pink> is 32 bit
[00:06] <erUSUL> yorch: what does "uname -m" say ??
[00:06] <yorch> yes.. Linux lennon 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 22:15:32 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:06] <gbear142751> Shock: yup... just was giving a heads up in case you didn't know... so hopefully though you'll be able to get stable versions soon
[00:06] <Slart> gbear142751: my last try  "dpkg --purge --force-all linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic"
[00:06] <erUSUL> yorch: /me puzzled
[00:07] <Shock> gbear142751: how about the windows only binary codecs? do they work on 64bit?
[00:07] <gbear142751> slart... hmm: gbear14275@Mustache:~$ dpkg --purge --force-all linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic
[00:07] <gbear142751> dpkg: operation requires read/write access to dpkg status area
[00:07] <gbear142751> gbear14275@Mustache:~$ sudo dpkg --purge --force-all linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic
[00:07] <gbear142751> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic which isn't installed.
[00:07] <FloodBot1> gbear142751: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:08] <gbear142751> crap... sorry should have pastebinned that
[00:08] <Slart> gbear142751: put a sudo in front of that
[00:08] <gbear142751> slart... i did on the second one
[00:08] <yorch> on dmesg I've found this: BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 -<PHONE_NUMBER>000000 (reserved)
[00:08] <Shock> yorch: opensuse supports more than 4GB on 32bit
[00:08] <rockenrola> i-pink: what is your problem?
[00:08] <Slart> gbear142751: ah.. so it has removed the package now.. try "sudo apt-get install -f" again
[00:08] <i-pink> i have 2 computers, and i want to make luncher on the first computer to open program on the other computer
[00:08] <erUSUL> yorch: take alook at this links http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=805116
[00:09] <yorch> the problem is that im in love of ubuntu for a couple years :D
[00:09] <rockenrola> i-pink: did you installed s ssh server?
[00:09] <thief`> is there someone i could pm to ask about how to install vmware? i have some easy queries - i'm stuck.
[00:09] <i-pink> rockenrola: yes
[00:09] <Shock> yorch: yeah...get over it, nothing lasts forever :)
[00:09] <gbear142751> Shock: that I'm not sure of... this is my home cpu so I'm running the 64bit beta's... sorry
[00:09] <i-pink> and it work good on putty
[00:09] <gbear142751> Shock: wait... was that sarcastic?
[00:10] <isaak> redvamp128,  ok apparently something went wrong
[00:10] <isaak> i had to restart computer
[00:10] <Shock> gbear142751: no, i'm genuinely interested; i need those to work before i can switch
[00:10] <gbear142751> Slart: restart required!  looks like it may be working! :)  brb and let you know
[00:10] <Slart> thief`: you could just ask here in the channel.. might be easier to get an answer or two that way
[00:10] <yorch> Shock: lol
[00:10] <rockenrola> i-pink: are you able to log into the other pc?
[00:10] <i-pink> rockenrola: but is make me crazy to open putty all the time
[00:10] <Slart> gbear142751: oops.. restart required?.. that wasn't the kernel you were running, right?
[00:11] <Vdub> Can I use Gparted to non destructivly resize my .boot partition?
[00:11] <Shock> yorch: i've heard that KDE support in opensuse is awesome also :)
[00:11] <i-pink> rockenrola: i dont understend
[00:11] <yorch> erUSUL: thanks! I'm taking a look.. I found similar posts but my bios does not have that kind of options
[00:11] <rockenrola> i-pink: can you login from computer A into computer B?
[00:12] <Vdub> Anyone...?
[00:12] <greenruby> can anyone please tell me how to change the passphrase on encrypted ubuntu?
[00:12] <i-pink> rockenrola: login on ssh?
[00:12] <Doonz> Hey guy's. "screen" locked up on me so i killed the window and when i started a new screen im now getting a whole bunch of error. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2a10ce5c
[00:12] <Shock> Vdub: you should be able to
[00:12] <Slart> Vdub: I think gparted can resize ext3-partitions, yes.. but backups are always good
[00:12] <quickmeow> on mac osx, where is the root directory for the built in web server?
[00:13] <Shock> Vdub: make a backup just in case with dd
[00:13] <Slart> quickmeow: wrong channel
[00:13] <rockenrola> i-pink: yes, ssh serves to login remotely into other computers
[00:13] <quickmeow> Slart: woops, do you have an answer?
[00:13] <thief`> is there someone i could pm to ask about how to install vmware? i have some easy queries - i'm stuck.
[00:13] <Slart> quickmeow: nope
[00:14] <kazekagi> Anyone know how i can get permission too the folder USR?
[00:14] <gbear14275> Slart: hmm... still a file in the /boot with the -7 kernel, but its smaller
[00:14] <rockenrola> i-pink: you have to better describe your problem. I am guessing here
[00:14] <i-pink> rockenrola: now i work on ssh, and i want to make it automatic..
[00:14] <Slart> gbear14275: but you don't get any errors when you run "sudo apt-get install -f" ?
[00:14] <gbear14275> Slart: uh oh... now getting this error when I check for updates W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY C5E6A5ED249AD24C
[00:15] <gbear14275> Slart: using package manager
[00:15] <vock> Running Ubuntu 8.10, uninstalled all my nvidia drivers because they weren't working, manually installed nvidia-glx-177 and restarted X server, but it still isn't using the nvidia driver, any help? Rebuilt my xorg.conf with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and then nvidia-xconfig, pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m166933bc
[00:15] <Slart> gbear14275: ah.. you can ignore that for now
[00:15] <gbear14275> Shock: I am unsure about the binaries... BUT... they also said they just released 64bit wine... may be another option
[00:15] <gbear14275> slart... ok
[00:15] <tsuna27> i recently read this http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-714-1, did update manager automaticly download the patches
[00:15] <i-pink> rockenrola: how i can make it?
[00:15] <Slart> gbear14275: now.. check in synaptic which kernels you have installed.. remove the older ones
[00:15] <Slart> gbear14275: use the "completely remove" option
[00:16] <peterm> hi i wanted to try teamspeak but local test doesn't work with /dev/dsp as audio device
[00:16] <peterm> which should i use?
[00:16] <peterm> microphone does work
[00:16] <peterm> i hear myself
[00:16] <FloodBot1> peterm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:16] <ubuntumistic> can anyone please tell me how to change the passphrase on encrypted ubuntu?
[00:16] <rockenrola> i-pink: I don't understand your problem. what do you want to make automatic? what is your current setup?
[00:17] <Slart> peterm: run it as "aoss teamspeak" to make it use alsa.. or "papsd teamspeak" to make it use pulseaudio
[00:17] <RediXe_> Anyone able to help me with getting a reverse vnc setup working? Everything appears to be working but the dialog isn't popping up when they connect to us. The workarounds are outdated as we are using 8.10. Thanks!
[00:17] <peterm> thx
[00:17] <Bizzeh> ubuntumistic: you dont... to do that, the entire drive would need to be decrypted, and then reencrypted with the new key
[00:17] <peterm> slart
[00:17] <thief`> anyone able to help?
[00:17] <Slart> peterm: you're welcome
[00:17] <gbear14275> Slart: seems to indicate only 9 and 11 now
[00:18] <i-pink> rockenrola: no, i want to press on a luncher on computer A and it open program on computer B
[00:18] <Slart> gbear14275: well.. remove the older one
[00:18] <peterm> slart, which command should i use to make it use oss?
[00:18] <Slart> i-pink: try using ssh
[00:18] <peterm> arg
[00:18] <peterm> forget it
[00:18] <sproaty_> Is there some tool to convert PPT -> pdf/some image format? I don't think imagemagick can.
[00:18] <gbear14275> lol, ok... booted into 9 because wasn't sure 11 was fully installed
[00:18] <gbear14275> brb again
[00:18] <Slart> peterm: it uses oss by default I think.. but ubuntu isn't really oss friendly.. make it use alsa or pulse
[00:18] <ubuntumistic> Bizzeh, how can i do that
[00:18] <Bizzeh> ubuntumistic: no idea
[00:19] <erUSUL> sproaty_: openoffice
[00:19] <gbear14275> btw... side topic... says there is a new nvidia 180 restricted driver out there and i'm using 177... should I dl it?
[00:19] <i-pink> Slart: i work with ssh now, but with putty
[00:19] <gbear14275> or would it detect it automatically?
[00:19] <erUSUL> gbear14275: no you should use the distro provided package
[00:19] <Slart> gbear14275: you'll be fine without it I think.. one problem at a time
[00:19] <rdw200169> gbear14275, generally, if you're not having problems, don't touch it!  (it's magic)
[00:19] <Rafael> error 25 on boot, any clue?
[00:19] <gbear14275> erUSUL: I don't think the distro has a compatible package
[00:20] <gbear14275> rdw200169: ok
[00:20] <Slart> i-pink: so ssh to the computer and run the program.. make sure you set the DISPLAY enviroment variable to something reasonable and the program should pop up on the other comptuer
[00:20] <Doonz> Hey guy's. "screen" locked up on me so i killed the window and when i started a new screen im now getting a whole bunch of error. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2a10ce5c
[00:20] <rockenrola> i-pink: what is the program?
[00:20] <Slart> Rafael: google for grub error codes.. tell us what error 25 means
[00:20] <sproaty_> erUSUL: can it be called upon from the command line to do the conversion?
[00:20] <i-pink> rockenrola: the program is lamp control
[00:21] <Vubi> i restarted my computer and i'm missing the titlebars and start menus how do i install them back?
[00:21] <TakeABow> Hey, can i change root password?
[00:21] <xevil> error 25 is disk read error, I think
[00:21] <peterm> ok now i can hear other people talking
[00:21] <peterm> but they don't hear me :-(
[00:22] <DIFH-ice1oot> TakeABow: sudo passwd
[00:22] <Slart> peterm: mic boost is on? you are recording from the microphone?
[00:22] <TakeABow> ice1oot, what do i type?
[00:22] <RediXe_> Anyone able to help me with getting a reverse vnc setup working? Everything appears to be working but the dialog isn't popping up when they connect to us. The workarounds are outdated as we are using 8.10. Thanks!
[00:22] <peterm> slart, yes i'm recording form the microphone
[00:23] <DIFH-ice1oot> TakeABow: sudo passwd
[00:23] <Slart> !root
[00:23] <TakeABow> what.
[00:23] <Hector> D:!
[00:23] <Vubi> is their a way a can revert ubuntu to previous update?
[00:24] <Hector> There is no root password.
[00:24] <Slart> Vubi: nothing automatic, no
[00:24] <Hector> ubotto: You've enlightened me.
[00:24] <Hector> Thank you.
[00:24] <Vubi> Slart:  i did some updates and now i am missing the start menu and such
[00:24] <gluonman> I'm having difficulty installing flash4linux (f4l). Is it even a current project? How can I install it?
[00:24] <zhaozhou> ubottu, why do you not say you are a bot anymore? :<
[00:24] <zhaozhou> oh.
[00:24] <Jeruvy> Hector: ubottu is a bot  you can ask him many things (but do so in #ubuntu-bots or PM)
[00:24] <Slart> Vubi: updates don't usually make the menus disappear
[00:25] <Hector> :(
[00:25] <TakeABow> ah, thanks i've changed it now ^__^
[00:25] <i-pink> bash?
[00:25] <Hector> It has still enlightened me.
[00:25] <Slart> Vubi: check for error messages in /var/log/syslog
[00:25] <Vubi> Slart: I uninstalled some evolution thing and it took a bunch of plugins out
[00:25] <zhaozhou> Mhm. :-)
[00:25] <i-pink> bash or bush??
[00:25] <Slart> Vubi: oh.. that might explain it.. it probably uninstalled a lot of things.. try installing the package ubuntu-desktop
[00:26] <fiber> hello... i was wondering.. is there a way to set a hook in the  gnome networking tool so that a custom script is run after connection to a specific network (or maybe even any network.. i could process that part myself)
[00:26] <Trenter> Question:  I just updated my linux kernel and it deleted my boot options to my recovery drive and my windows partition, how do I restore them?
[00:26] <Vubi> Slart: That did it thank you !
[00:26] <Slart> !supportroot
[00:27] <peterm> Slart, they do hear me!
[00:27] <peterm> but it's ways too not loud
[00:27] <rockenrola> i-pink: on a linux box "ssh -X flip@localhost gcalctool" will do what you want. I don't know about putty
[00:27] <i-pink> how i can write script to connect via ssh
[00:27] <Slart> Vubi: don't uninstall evolution.. for some reason a lot of stuff depends on evolution
[00:27] <gbear14275> Slart: YOU ROCK!  ok i think i got -9 off completely
[00:27] <gbear14275> Slart: where do I make my donations?
[00:27] <Vubi> Slart: I though it was just the email client but it uses alot of other things :P
[00:27] <nak> i-pink: Ask a coherent question.
[00:27] <dou213> hi guys, i have a usb-stick which i want to mount on ubuntu > what was the cmd again? mount vfat ?
[00:27] <Slart> gbear14275: awesome.. now answers the next person that asks about that =)
[00:27] <Jeruvy> fiber: not really answering your question, but why not a start script to do this (in bash...)?
[00:28] <Slart> Vubi: indeed =)
[00:28] <jordo2323> All of a sudden my sound doesn't work. I am running an Audigy 2Z and don't believe it's the card. What can I do to test?
[00:28] <thief`> dou213, sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/usbstick
[00:28] <rdw200169> fiber, you could take a shot with screwing around in /etc/network/if-*.d/
[00:28] <Slart> peterm: well.. then it's time to play with the mixer settings and see if you can get louder
[00:28] <benjamin_> anybody got any idea how to get bluetooth running on a toshiba a200 with built in bluetooth?
[00:28] <dou213> thief`, thx
[00:28] <thief`> if it says /media/usbstick dir not found, then sudo mkdir /media/usbstick first.
[00:28] <gbear14275> Slart: ok... but what I remember was that there were terminal commands involving the -f command, we tried dpkg, and then it stumbled to a success
[00:28] <peterm> slart, mixer is all maxed is there some tweak?
[00:28] <jordo2323> Have there been any issues with recent updates and sound?
[00:29] <gbear14275> Slart: but I'll take better notes next time
[00:29] <Slart> gbear14275: apt-get is a bit too polite.. dpkg just doesn't take no for an answer.. dpkg -f is even nastier =)
[00:29] <rdw200169> fiber, for example, when you install firestarter, it puts a script in /etc/if-up.d/ that runs when an interface comes up; this is linux networking related, not networkmanager, though; this may make what you want to do more reliable
[00:29] <fiber> rdw200169: hrm... sounds promising! do you think that is called after dhcp though?
[00:29] <dou213> thief`, "mount: mount point /media/sdc1 does not exist"
[00:30] <Slart> peterm: nothing I know of.. some soundcards have this problem..
[00:30] <Nubbie> hi everybody, i need to enable DVI out on my radeon 9550 card using fglrx. Can somebody please point me in the right direction?
[00:30] <gbear14275> Slart: ah I think i get what happened then... dpkg made room for apt-get to work basically by uninstalling what it could
[00:30] <Slart> gbear14275: sounds about right
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> dou213 What are you tring to do
[00:30] <dou213> thief`, the cmd i ran was > sudo /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1
[00:30] <thief`> ok, that is good,
[00:30] <gbear14275> slart... can I ask one more?  W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY C5E6A5ED249AD24C?
[00:30] <thief`> first do sudo mkdir /media/sdc1
[00:30] <rdw200169> fiber, i think it follows the same rules as /etc/rc*/ where you number the scripts in the order they should be run
[00:30] <Slart> gbear14275: ah.. that one.. hang on
[00:30] <TakeABow> is there anything interesting i can do with a 100/100 mbit ubuntu box with not much processing power?
[00:30] <dou213> Jack_Sparrow, i want to mount my usb-device
[00:30] <thief`> or4n_, if you like, name it someting you like... as in /media/greenstick
[00:30] <thief`> something you'll remember.
[00:31] <dou213> it is fat32 in windows
[00:31] <rdw200169> fiber, i don't know though, you should go look around in there though, it shouldn't be *too* complicated ;)
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> dou213 thief has it right
[00:31] <jordo2323> All of a sudden my sound system doesn't work on my Ubuntu box. I have recently updated and rebooted the system. I didn't notice it at first, but the sound system is dead?  Anyone have any ideas?
[00:31] <Trenter> Question:  I recently updated my linux kernel and it removed my windows partition and my rescue drive partition.  How do I go about restoring them?
[00:31] <gbear14275> Slart: I'll be here for another 5 hours... then I might have to sleep
[00:31] <Nubbie> TakeABow: turn it into a router with DDwrt?
[00:31] <thief`> i'm a mad n00b, but that i do know... hahah
[00:31] <fiber> rdw200169: haha, for sure... well thanks for the tip! i'll let you know if i find anything interesting out
[00:31] <TakeABow> Nubbie: It's not on my network, would be useless
[00:31] <Slart> gbear14275: oh, this will just take a minute
[00:31] <gbear14275> TakeABow: I second the firewall/router option
[00:32] <Nubbie> Trenter: upgrading a kernel cannot trash your partitions. something else went wrong somewhere.
[00:32] <dou213> maybe first i got to create the folder in /media?
[00:32] <rdw200169> fiber, generally, i have my interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces and I use ifup / ifdown to bring them up and down
[00:32] <gbear14275> TakeABow: Nubbie I prefer tomato though... but thats just what I use for my wrt54
[00:32] <Jack_Sparrow> dougl that is what thief said yes
[00:32] <rdw200169> fiber, this way, all the appropriate scripts related to their initialization are run; this works for me w/dhcp
[00:32] <thief`> dou213, after that, google mount usb fstab   - there is good info in there, to edit the fstab and make life happier.
[00:32] <thief`> dou213,  first type sudo mkdir /media/greenusbkey
[00:32] <Nubbie> TakeABow: turn it into a media slave, throw a bunch of beefy hard drives in and set it up as a file server
[00:32] <Trenter> Nubbie:  After updating my system it asked a question about linux kernel because it was updating, I said yes and now my windows boot option is gone
[00:32] <rdw200169> fiber, i'm *pretty* sure networkManager does the same thing, it would not make sense *not* to... i don't know though, i never have any luck w/NetworkManager
[00:32] <thief`> dou213,  then type sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/greenusbkey
[00:33] <dou213> thief`, ok thx :)
[00:33] <gbear14275> Trenter: how did you do your update?
[00:33] <Nubbie> gbear14275: i have ddwrt because i don't have enough flash space for tomato.
[00:33] <thief`> dou213,  it's ok that it is fat
[00:33] <Trenter> The update manager
[00:33] <Nubbie> Trenter: it didn't remove the partitions though, it just modified your bootloader
[00:33] <vock> Running Ubuntu 8.10, uninstalled all my nvidia drivers because they weren't working, manually installed nvidia-glx-177 and restarted X server, but it still isn't using the nvidia driver, any help? Rebuilt my xorg.conf with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and then nvidia-xconfig, pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m166933bc
[00:33] <Nubbie> !grub > Trenter
[00:33] <spawn> how do i get the luncher on the bottom ubuntu with the big icons and u can throw them around the screen and they go back to the bar
[00:34] <d0netsFN> hey im trying to ssh
[00:34] <Nubbie> hi everybody, i need to enable DVI out on my radeon 9550 card using fglrx. Can somebody please point me in the right direction?
[00:34] <crunchbang> ok im tryin to boot from an external harddrive and i created a partition gave it the boot flag and everything set up
[00:34] <dou213> thief`, another error: "mount: special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist"
[00:34] <crunchbang> wont boot, but its not the first partition?
[00:34] <dou213> are u sure it is sdc?
[00:34] <gbear14275> Nubbie: I was lucky... my friend asked me if I could get his router to pick up spare wireless... I said sure!  (planning on ddwrt micro) went over there and they had a 3.1!  I said, "HERE, just take mine I'll get this old one off your hands"  Been happy ever since :)
[00:34] <Nubbie> crunchbang: modify your bios settings to boot from USB
[00:34] <fiber> rdw200169: right, well i normally go with both... this way is best because i doubt the network manager wrote it's own i[fw]config programs, it's probably just a front end... i just want to be able to control some things once i get dhcp on several choice networks
[00:34] <d0netsFN> and it says connection refused, when i try to ssh localhost it says permissions 0777 for etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key are to open ubuntu
[00:34] <thief`> right.
[00:34] <Slart> gbear14275: can you pastebin the output of this command? "cat /etc/apt/source.list" ?
[00:34] <Nubbie> gbear14275: lol
[00:34] <thief`> wwhen you typed mkdir ... what exactly did you type?
[00:34] <crunchbang> Nubbie:will boot from my flash drive not my external harddrive, realises its ther jus wont boot
[00:34] <xim_> is there a tool that will tell you what programs are using how much network bandwidth?
[00:34] <rdw200169> fiber, then ifup/ifdown are the way to go
[00:35] <gbear14275> Slart: no cause it says it doesn't exist, but I'll track down my sources list for you
[00:35] <rdw200169> fiber, ipconfig/ip are tools that do network initialization manually; i.e. 'ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0' is the manual addition of an IP, which doesn't use the if-up (etc...) scripts
[00:35] <Slart> gbear14275: ah.. typo.. my bad "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" I forgot the s
[00:36] <dou213> thief`, sudo mkdir /media/sdc1   >>> creates the folder sdc1 in /media... the sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1
[00:36] <rdw200169> fiber, when you have stuff in /etc/network/interfaces though, ifup/ifdown are preferred
[00:36] <thief`> dou213, ok, now your looking good.
[00:36] <jordo2323> I recently updated my system and now my sound doesn't work. I have rebooted twice and still nothing. Anyone have any ideas?
[00:36] <thief`> type ls /media/sdc1
[00:36] <rdw200169> fiber, it doesn't matter if it's set for static or dhcp (or something else for that matter); it's a very useful tool.  that, and you can easily accomplish what you want to do using that
[00:36] <thief`> and it'll list what is on your usbkey
[00:37] <dou213> thief`, empty
[00:37] <Nubbie> bah thanks anyways guys, night
[00:37] <gbear14275> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111502/  (yeah figured out it was a mistype when I went looking for it, figured it was a problem on my end)
[00:37] <rdw200169> fiber, if what you want to do is simple, you can add pre-up commands to your /etc/network/interfaces directly, though;  i do this when i set up a bridge, for example; or bring up a virtualBox interface and add it to a bridge
[00:37] <crunchbang> anymore help, i cant boot from second partition of my external harddrive
[00:37] <thief`> dou213, that means your usb key has nothing on it.
[00:37] <thief`> does that make sense?
[00:38] <dou213> thief`, impossible
[00:38] <dou213> thief`, why the error when trying to mount?
[00:38] <_patrickd> TakeABow: You can use sudo <command> to do anything you can do as root in ubuntu as it doesn't really use the root account
[00:38] <thief`> what error do you see?
[00:38] <Slart> gbear14275: check this page https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories
[00:38] <dou213> "mount: special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist"
[00:39] <thief`> ooooh
[00:39] <thief`> ok. sorry
[00:39] <thief`> type sudo fdisk -l
[00:39] <Slart> gbear14275: there is a section about "Adding a PPAs keys to your system".. that's what you want to do
[00:39] <thief`> thta will list what is plugged in.
[00:39] <fiber> rdw200169: true, but it's probably cleaner to keep it modular and put the scripts in the /etc/network/if-up.d folder... i've faced hell after over-customizing scripts like that!
[00:39] <thief`> dont worry fdisk is not the same in linux as it is in windows.
[00:39] <thief`> it won't format your drive...
[00:40] <gbear14275> Slart: thanks! will do... btw thanks alot for the help and I don't mind pitching a few bucks to a donation spot of your choice if you have any favorite projects or anything... (offers on the table)
[00:40] <dou213> :) and now? it shows the partitions
[00:40] <dou213> oh it is sdb
[00:40] <dou213> not sdc1 :)
[00:41] <thief`> right.
[00:41] <dou213> found it
[00:41] <thief`> good job.
[00:41] <Slart> gbear14275: nah.. but do hang around in the channel and help others with problems.. that will make me sleep better at night
[00:41] <gbear14275> will do!
[00:41] <thief`> usually it is sdc1, but not always.
[00:41] <thief`> dou213, after that, google mount usb fstab   - there is good info in there, to edit the fstab and make life happier.
[00:41] <thief`> then you can mount waaay easier.
[00:41] <demon012> hey guys has anyone know of any good ultra long non netbook laptops that work well with ubuntu?
[00:41] <thief`> i just did that, and i'm happier.
[00:41] <spawn> how do i get the luncher on the bottom ubuntu with the big icons and u can throw them around the screen and they go back to the bar
[00:41] <demon012> long battery life*
[00:42] <Doonz> Hey guy's. "screen" locked up on me so i killed the window and when i started a new screen im now getting a whole bunch of error. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2a10ce5c
[00:42] <Slart> spawn: you mean AWN?
[00:42] <dou213> thief`, thx very much
[00:42] <thief`> no prob... but really, read that, and you won't have this prob next time..
[00:42] <spawn> slart hold on let me youtube that lol
[00:42] <rdw200169> vock, i looked at the pastebin you gave me; i see no reference in the Xorg.0.log of nvidia whatsoever; sometimes, it puts the most recent log in a different file, can you make sure that Xorg.0.log has the most recent timestamp (ls -l)?  sometimes, it will put the most recent in something like Xorg.9.log or something
[00:42] <thief`> i'm learning it too
[00:43] <Slart> spawn: here's a good page http://ubuntu-snippets.blogspot.com/2008/05/ubuntu-dock-collection.html
[00:43] <spawn> slart perfect man thanks
[00:43] <Slart> spawn: you're welcome
[00:44] <Louis> Will setting the noatime option on a filesystem cause any problems on a raid0 array?
[00:44] <ScottG489> What does it mean when the volume buttons on the panel above my keyboard on my laptop are flashing? The mute and volume up buttons are flashing and the volume down is solid. This has happened before.
[00:44] <crunchbang> guys, for booting of an external hardrive thats split into two partitions does the first one have to be the boot
[00:44] <crunchbang> ?
[00:44] <ScottG489> The buttons function properly
[00:44] <vock> rdw200169,  the newest log files are called xorg.failsafe.log, does that make sense?
[00:44] <vock> rdw200169, actually that's wrong, the one i posted is actually the newest by 2 hours on that one
[00:45] <Louis> I should rephrase my question... I've been told that setting the noatime flag can cause problems with certain apps on certain setups... what kinds of problems occur and on what kind of apps?
[00:45] <rdw200169> vock, failsafe is always vesa... that doesn't help... you want one of the Xorg.X.log ones
[00:45] <rdw200169> vock, b/c if there's a problem w/starting the Xserver, it automatically restarts and goes failsafe w/vesa
[00:45] <vock> rdw200169, the problem is that nvidia-settings says nvidia drivers aren't loaded, but i'm not sure how to make them load beyond the sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[00:45] <Louis> !noatime
[00:45] <thinkgnu_>  i installed ubuntu 8.10 , i got some updated package from someone who updated it's ubuntu 8.10 , now how can i use those updates in my computer?if i copy them too /var/cache/apt , should it works ?
[00:46] <Nuckler> hi
[00:46] <TheEdge_> !delete
[00:46] <Nuckler> !de
[00:46] <vock> rdw200169, tried to redo the xorg.conf and got that one that was posted, and i really don't know what else to do to make it load, and not entirely sure why there is no reference to nvidia in the log file
[00:46] <rdw200169> vock, well, we gotta see the logfile that actually mentions the nvidia video driver; it loads the nvidia glx driver but doesn't mention the video driver; that's strange; it should say something about it, with an (EE) line
[00:46] <ubuntumistic> is there a way to setup your encrypted ubuntu box so that when you enter the wrong password on the screensaver it either encrypts the hard drive some how or hibernates or shuts down?
[00:46] <Louis> thinkgnu_:  i may not be getting your question, but usually ou just have to run the update manager ot get updates.  Or type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in the terminal
[00:46] <vock> rdw200169, do a complete reboot instead of just the xserver and i can post the log file i get when it says i need to boot into low- graphics mode?
[00:47] <thief`> crunchbang, the bootloader is at the begining of the drive, not on either partition.
[00:47] <Louis> thinkgnu_ :  unless you're talking about something completely different, in which case, excuse my n00bishness =)
[00:47] <crunchbang> thief:its a live persistant install?
[00:47] <lakotajames> I am trying to get my joypad to work.  it doesn't show up in /dev/input/. help?
[00:47] <rdw200169> vock, don't let it boot into low-graphics; when the Xserver crashes, go back to the terminal, and see which one is newest, and copy it somewhere, then let it go failsafe; then post it
[00:47] <thinkgnu_> Louis: think if i don't have any internet connection :p , i just want to use somone else updated packages
[00:48] <vock> rdw200169, okay, brb
[00:48] <Louis> thinkgnu_:  oh.  That's going to be a royal pain in the butt =/
[00:48] <rdw200169> vock, the easiest way to restart the x server is going to a tty (Ctrl + Alt + F1), and running
[00:48] <rdw200169> vock /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[00:48] <thief`> crunchbang, the bootsector would be at the beginning of the drive itself.
[00:48] <vock> rdw200169, okay, brb
[00:48] <Louis> I've been told that setting the noatime flag can cause problems with certain apps on certain setups... what kinds of problems occur and on what kind of apps?
[00:48] <crunchbang> thief:so it shudnt matter the order of the drives?
[00:48] <crunchbang> Partitions*
[00:48] <saboteur> доброго вечера товарисчи
[00:49] <rdw200169> !ru | saboteur
[00:49] <Louis> !ru|saboteur
[00:49] <Louis> oops
[00:49] <lakotajames> I read that the joystick problems in intrepid were fixed, now, is that right?
[00:49] <lakotajames> mine still doesn't work
[00:49] <TheEdge_> how do i kill Firefox when not responding.. i have closed the window but when i try to start a new firefox i get a error saying that firefox is already running
[00:50] <Louis> TheEdge_:  it usually clears up after a minute or so when that happens.  Are you running the latest version of firefox?
[00:50] <lakotajames> TheEdge_: alt+f2, run "killall firefox"
[00:50] <lakotajames> without quotes
[00:50] <sysrpx> hello
[00:50] <Louis> or do what lakotajames said =)
[00:50] <Louis> hello sysrpx
[00:50] <demon012> or xkill
[00:50] <demon012> then click the firefox window
[00:51] <rdw200169> TheEdge_, it's also useful, for future reference, to add the System Monitor applet to your panel; when you click on it, it comes up with a windows-like task manager
[00:51] <demon012> make sure you do not click anything you do not wish to kill though =)
[00:51] <lakotajames> demon012: he can't see the firefox window, or he wouldn't be trying to open a new one.
[00:51] <Louis> I've been told that setting the noatime flag can cause problems with certain apps on certain setups... what kinds of problems occur and on what kind of apps?
[00:51] <demon012> ah missed that bit of the convo
[00:51] <TheEdge_> louis : 3.0.5
[00:51] <sysrpx> hey, i ahve this problem ... my ubntu gnome theme is comepletely messed up and the appearance applet isn't able to select a different theme (it selects it, but the theme isn't chanigng) .. what should i do?
[00:52] <sysrpx> hey, i ahve this problem ... my ubntu gnome theme is comepletely messed up and the appearance applet isn't able to select a different theme (it selects it, but the theme isn't chanigng) .. what should i do?
[00:52] <TheEdge_> lakotajames:  thanks
[00:52] <lakotajames> TheEdge_: you're welcome
[00:52] <sysrpx> anyone?
[00:52] <srx2002> hi guys, what's the best version of Ubuntu to install on a PS3?
[00:52] <shira> i installed 8.10 on my macbook (v2.1). At first, composite was working. Then I plugged a second monitor. Now composite no longer works, even if i unplug that monitor and reboot. any ideas?
[00:52] <ari_stress> srx2002: we can do that?
[00:52] <Doonz> Hey guy's. "screen" locked up on me so i killed the window and when i started a new screen im now getting a whole bunch of error. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2a10ce5c
[00:53] <srx2002> lol
[00:53] <lakotajames> sysrpx:  I think that happened to me once, and a reboot fixed it.
[00:53] <istvan> The version of scons in the repos is old, does anyone know if there is a .deb of the latest version?
[00:53] <ScottG489> What does it mean when the volume buttons on the panel above my keyboard on my laptop are flashing? The mute and volume up buttons are flashing and the volume down is solid. The buttons still function properly. This has happened before.
[00:53] <lakotajames> Anyone know anything about Joypads?
[00:53] <tsuna27> what is the name for the screen when it pops up GNOME and has a picture of a foot
[00:53] <srx2002> anyone?
[00:53] <Mean_Admin> if I have  ssh-keygen  make one private/public key from one user and then have ssh-keygen make another private/public key, I have to combine both .pub files into authorized_keys, right ?
[00:54] <ari_stress> tsuna27: splash screen?
[00:54] <sysrpx> lakotajames: i already rebooted and it's still messed up
[00:54] <lakotajames> sysrpx: sorry, then.  That's the only thing I can remember doing to fix it.
[00:54] <sysrpx> anyone else?
[00:54] <ari_stress> Mean_Admin: yes
[00:55] <koopa2> hi
[00:55] <Mean_Admin> ari_stress: then that user could login with  either key, right ?
[00:55] <istvan> anyone know where the latest scons.deb is?
[00:55] <roy_hobbs>  Hey.  I'm configuring syslog for the first time.  Is there a way for me to specify how long to keep files, how large they should be, when to increment logfile.0 to logfile.1 etc....
[00:55] <lakotajames> Do joysticks work in Intrepid now?
[00:55] <ari_stress> Mean_Admin: no, only with his true key
[00:55] <vock_> rdw200169, (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[00:55] <Nuckler> have nvidia or AMD/ATI better Linux Divers?
[00:55] <sysrpx> hey, i have this problem ... my gnome desktop theme is comepletly messed up and the appearance applet isn't able to select a different theme (it selects it, but the theme isn't chanigng) .. what should i do?
[00:56] <rdw200169> vock_, finally! now we're getting somewhere
[00:56] <rdw200169> vock, can you post the whole log?
[00:56] <ari_stress> Mean_Admin: i don't think we can relate one user with more than pub/priv key
[00:56] <vock_> rdw200169,  woo, somewhere!
[00:56] <srx2002> anyone?
[00:56] <ari_stress> Mean_Admin: i don't think we can relate one user with more than one pub/priv key
[00:56] <karsten> What repo(s) do I need for sun-java6-plugin?
[00:56] <Mean_Admin> ari_stress: no, I mean, if two private keys were created (with respective .pub offspring), I combine botf .pub offspring in authorize_keys and thus user can login with either of the prive keys
[00:56] <karsten> (iceweasel/firefox java plugin)
[00:56] <Mean_Admin> ari_stress: ow
[00:57] <srx2002> anyone here got intrepid Ibex installed on a ps3?
[00:58] <karsten> I've got universe & multiverse selected.  Looking at http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/11/20/how-to-install-java-runtime-environment-jre-with-firefox-plugin-ubuntu-6061-610/ for plugin installation instructions.
[00:58] <lakotajames> Anyone here got a Joystick to work on Intrepid?
[00:58] <karsten> srx2002: Just ask your question.
[00:58] <karsten> lakotajames: just ask your question.
[00:58] <demon012> anyone know if the macbook battery problems mentioned here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246421 apply to just the macbook pro or to both the macbook and the macbook pro (they keep mentioning the dual graphics cards of the macbook pro)
[00:58] <savan> any shell scripting experts here? ^^
[00:58] <srx2002> What's the best version of Ubuntu to install on a ps3??  iterpeid, gutsy...etc....
[00:58] <lakotajames> How do I get a joystick to work on Intrepid?  It doesn't show up in /dev/input/
[00:59] <gbear14275> do I need the gilir/ubuntu gutsy main universe if I have intrepid now?
[00:59] <srx2002> i asked it
[00:59] <karsten> savan: Just ask your question.
[00:59] <Fertech> can some one help me, i just check if the iso file i burn match the hash and i did, so whats the next step
[00:59] <Cyberai> Does anyone know if the ubuntu remote desktop (vinagre) logs when someone accesses your desktop?
[01:00] <Chowzzf> If I installed ruby gems via wget and then: "sudo ruby setup.rb", "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gem1.8 /usr/bin/gem". How do I remove the install?
[01:00] <karsten> Cyberai: /var/log/auth.log
[01:00] <Fertech>  when i install the ubuntu 8.10 it gave me an error 18
[01:00] <karsten> Cyberai: Check there, it's where authentication should be asked.
[01:00] <jrib> Chowzzf: read it's documentation.  In the future, use APT to install things instead
[01:00] <karsten> Fertech: On boot?  That's a grub error.
[01:00] <jrib> its even
[01:00]  * karsten steals jrib's "'" key.
[01:01] <Fertech> yes i know karsten so how can i fix this
[01:01] <savan> I want to do a chgrp -R on a directory that contains about 20 groups but I want one group to be excluded from the chgrp -R
[01:01] <Fertech> i try to install it on a 320gb maxtor
[01:02] <lakotajames> Do Joysticks work on Intrepid yet?
[01:02] <Fertech> diamondmax21
[01:02] <karsten> Fertech: I'd suggest reading GRU Bdocs, I'm not entirely familiar, but there's a breakdown of what those mean.  I think in general it's that the drive wasn't properly accessed.
[01:02] <Alex_21> Hi, I want to install PPC ed of Ubuntu 8.04 My friend who I am installing it for is used to Mac OS X/Win 98. What can I install that is bright, colourful, and looks like either
[01:02] <Vubi> Whats the best audio program for gnome?
[01:02] <Alex_21> ?
[01:02] <bruenig> Vubi: mplayer
[01:02] <karsten> rythmbox is the gnomeish one.  I prefer amarok from KDE.
[01:02] <fogobogo> bruenig: :D
[01:03] <rdw200169> Vubi, you're not gonna get an even response on this one, there's too many options
[01:03] <lakotajames> vubi I like vnc.  plays everything.
[01:03] <mmc> how are the recent packages kept ... in Git or in Bzr? How can I use them?
[01:03] <bruenig> the answer is clear mplayer for video, mpd for audio
[01:03] <karsten> Alex_21: use xfce4 as your desktop, it's themeable.  GNOME isn't particularly but it's default.  KDE4 is broken right now.
[01:03] <bruenig> !next
[01:03] <rdw200169> Vubi, and Xmms, Exaile, Songbird, and so on...
[01:03] <Vubi> I'm looking for a media player like amarok and like zune for m$ but for gnome
[01:03] <fogobogo> bruenig: phrikless zone :(
[01:03] <elpargo> anyone knows how can I ask apt "which package provides this file"
[01:03] <Cyberai> karsten, I'm not seeing any entries for vinagre
[01:03] <karsten> Vubi: rythmbox
[01:04] <bruenig> Vubi: haha I see what you did there, you put a dollar sign where the s was supposed to be
[01:04] <karsten> Cyberai: ??
[01:04] <j-b-r> Anyone feel like helping me get my gamepad working?
[01:04] <fogobogo> Vubi: mpg123
[01:04] <thief`> does a c complier come with ubuntu?
[01:04] <bruenig> Vubi: cmus
[01:04] <Vubi> bruenig: i thought thats what you call Micro$oft
[01:04] <vock_> rdw200169, http://pastebin.com/m7ac7e781
[01:04] <karsten> thief`: install gcc
[01:04] <lakotajames> j-b-r: I need help with mine, also.  No one wants to help me either :(
[01:04] <bruenig> Vubi: ahahaha you did it again, you clever dog
[01:04] <elpargo> thief`: no, instal buildessensials
[01:05] <Alex_21> Is there GCC for PPC?
[01:05] <Alex_21> ?
[01:05] <fogobogo> this is $
[01:05] <thief`> i'm installing vmware and it now says:    What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?
[01:05] <j-b-r> lakotajames: What's up with yours?
[01:05] <Bizzeh> Vubi: an $ isnt an S, an S is a letter in the english alphabet, a $ is a currency value... so micro$oft isnt a word.. but microsoft is
[01:05] <bruenig> fogobogo: do you see what he is doing with the s?
[01:05] <thief`> M$FT
[01:05] <fogobogo> bruenig: yeah! that really smart!
[01:05] <jrib> Alex_21: did you check the repositories using a program like Synaptic?  You probably just want to install build-essential by the way
[01:06] <Bizzeh> its not at all smart, it just shows how pathetic some people can be
[01:06] <Alex_21> I want to install packages from source
[01:06] <bruenig> how about this, Micr0s0ft
[01:06] <lakotajames> j-b-r: the lights come on, but it isn't recognised anywhere.  not even in /dev/input
[01:06] <jrib> bruenig: let's try to stay on-topic
[01:06] <bruenig> I replaced the o's with zeroes
[01:06] <j-b-r> Is it usb? or gameport?
[01:06] <lakotajames> jbr: usb
[01:06] <j-b-r> Oh
[01:06] <Alex_21> And no Sinaptic is out of the question. I haven't installed. I am just looking at distro options for PPC
[01:06] <bazhang> bruenig, fogobogo please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:06] <jrib> !ppc | Alex_21
[01:06] <lakotajames> lakotajames: it used to work, I can't remember if it was on Hardy or Gutsy, though.
[01:06] <j-b-r> The we probably don't have to same problem
[01:07] <Joeseph> After the latest kernel upgrade, did anyone else lose access to their windows share 'smb' drives?
[01:07] <lakotajames> err.
[01:07] <j-b-r> yeah
[01:07] <lakotajames> I ment j-b-r
[01:07] <Bizzeh> Alex_21: you might be better off with gentoo if you wanna use powerpc
[01:07] <lakotajames> :P
[01:07] <j-b-r> I figured it out
[01:07] <lakotajames> heh.
[01:07] <j-b-r> what you menat
[01:07] <j-b-r> *meant
[01:07] <Alex_21> Ok, thanks
[01:07] <Alex_21> Good day
[01:07] <Vubi> Bizzeh: good point you go there
[01:08] <j-b-r> So, yeah, mine is a gameport pad, and I don't think Ubuntu is recognizing my sound card properly
[01:08] <lakotajames> j-b-r does yours show up as /dev/input/js0?
[01:08] <j-b-r> No
[01:08] <spawn> how do i composit a screen? (in compiz fusion?
[01:08] <j-b-r> It doesn't show up at all
[01:08] <Vubi> anyone hook up a microsoft cam to ubuntu? vx-3000?
[01:08] <lakotajames> j-b-r same here.
[01:08] <Joeseph> I can no longer access any of my windows share drives via smb.... any help?
[01:08] <j-b-r> But I think my problem is just regocnizing the gameport itself
[01:09] <carpii> Joeseph, what error?
[01:09] <gmap> everytime I log into ubuntu i get a promt for the network manager keyring password. How can I get around having to this everytime?
[01:09] <alienjeff> oh haiz ubuntu fahs
[01:09] <carpii> check /var/log/samba/*
[01:09] <faust7> Joeseph, when you go Places, Network, are you able to see your workgroup ? and are you able to see the other computer as well?
[01:09] <Joeseph> carpii: I get different ones...  but mostly "failed to mount"
[01:10] <Joeseph> faust7: I can see my workgroup, but no other  computers.... but it has always been like that.
[01:10] <fogobogo> alienjeff: o/
[01:10] <rdw200169> vock, you installed from the nvidia website .bin right?
[01:10] <vock> rdw200169, no, from the repositories
[01:10] <alienjeff> o/ fogobogo asl?
[01:10] <carpii> youre trying to mount in fstab or via cmdline?
[01:10] <Vubi> has anyone installed a microsoft vx-3000 webcam on ubuntu?
[01:10] <Joeseph> carpii: currently, I'm just using natilous
[01:11] <Flannel> alienjeff: This is a support channel, not a chat channel, please take it elsewhere.
[01:11] <alienjeff> Flannel:  asl?
[01:11] <lakotajames> j-b-r i read that joystick support was broken in intrepid, but it supposedly is fixed now.
[01:11] <Bizzeh> alienjeff is a troll...
[01:11] <alienjeff> Bizzeh:  hai! asl?
[01:11] <rdw200169> vock, check if the kernel module exists.  try to modprobe nvidia
[01:11] <j-b-r> Well I just installed over the internet yesterday...
[01:11] <vock> rdw200169, just get a blank line after that
[01:12] <Joeseph> carpii, faust7:  I could use this just yesterday....   I have had a kernel upgrade since then I think though.
[01:12] <rdw200169> vock, honestly, i would have to screw around with this doing an SSH to your computer... this would take a while over irc
[01:12] <spawn> how do i composit a screen? (in compiz fusion?)
[01:12] <carpii> Joeseph, itd help if you had exact error messages
[01:12] <vock> rdw200169,  it's that bad?
[01:12] <TheEdge_> i am using Mplayer  put when ever i play a dvd i can't use ctrl+m  nothing happens.. also when I click a menu button in the picture nothing happens
[01:13] <rdw200169> vock, it seems that files are missing or in the wrong place... i thought you mentioned that you tried the drivers from the nvidia website
[01:13] <lakotajames> j-b-r: If you get anything figured out, post on the thread i opened.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1054506
[01:13] <demon012> anyone here got a dell e6500 running ubuntu?
[01:13] <vock> rdw200169,  sorry, i may have written it wrong when i said manual install, i did it from synaptic/repositories
[01:13] <Joeseph> carpii: "Couldn't display '[location]'  Error: Failed to mount Windows share.  Please select another viewer and try again."
[01:13] <lakotajames> j-b-r: As will I.
[01:14] <rdw200169> vock, that is very strange, b/c it detects your card, so that's not the problem; can you try to install linux-restricted-modules?
[01:14] <lakotajames> j-b-r: I think we have teh same problem, if you can't get it to show up at all/
[01:14] <rdw200169> vock, it *should* be there already, but crazier things have happened...
[01:14] <vock> rdw200169, it's installing now, wasn't there
[01:15] <rdw200169> vock, then uninstall and re-install linux-glx
[01:15] <Blais1> Hi guys, whenever I reboot my screen resolution resets itself to 1024x768, it should be 1650x1050, how can I get it to save properly?
[01:15] <Gustavo_G_> Could someone explain to me how linux auto completes parameters when I do "tab" on the command prompt. For example, I can type apt-get ins <tab> and it completes apt-get install .
[01:15] <fogobogo> Blais1: which one?
[01:15] <vock> rdw200169, no such package?
[01:15] <Blais1> fogobogo: I'm not sure I understand the question
[01:16] <rdw200169> Gustavo_G_, /etc/bash_completion
[01:16] <fogobogo> Blais1: which resolution. the gdm or the desktop?
[01:16] <exodus_ms> Gustavo_G_: Are you trying to replicate this feature somewhere else?
[01:16] <Blais1> fogobogo: is the gdm the login screen?
[01:16] <Doonz> Hey guy's. "screen" locked up on me so i killed the window and when i started a new screen im now getting a whole bunch of error. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2a10ce5c
[01:16] <fogobogo> yo dawg
[01:16] <Blais1> fogobogo: in which case they are both incorrect
[01:16] <karsten> aldren: Yes
[01:16] <Gustavo_G_> exodus_ms: No, not at the moment I was just curious
[01:16] <rdw200169> vock, look up 'restricted' in Synaptic
[01:16] <rdw200169> vock, and make sure you have all the repositories enabled
[01:16] <fogobogo> Blais1: theres a system menu for resolution. isnt it?
[01:17] <karsten> aldren: Nevermind.
[01:17] <Gustavo_G_> Thank you rdw200169
[01:17] <exodus_ms> Gustavo_G_: oh, ok. I
[01:17] <Blais1> fogobogo: System > Preferences > Screen resolution lets me set it correctly, yes, but when I reboot it will return to 1024x768
[01:17] <Cyberai> karsten, if the ubuntu remote desktop was not set to require a password to log in, is there somewhere the access would be logged?
[01:17] <fogobogo> Blais1: try as root!
[01:18] <rdw200169> Gustavo_G_, that, and it's started from the bash.bashrc
[01:18] <bazhang> fogobogo, no
[01:18] <karsten> Cyberai: NFC.
[01:18] <fogobogo> bazhang: no?
[01:18] <bazhang> fogobogo, dont suggest that
[01:18] <Blais1> bazhang: what would you suggest?
[01:18] <karsten> Cyberai: auth.log is the standar authentication logging location.
[01:18] <fogobogo> bazhang: using root? aka sudo?
[01:18] <bazhang> Blais1, what card and what driver
[01:18] <karsten> Cyberai: IIRC remote desktop == vnc which may not behave properly in that regard.
[01:19] <Blais1> bazhang: ati, 8.12
[01:19] <lakotajames> Anyone know how to get a Joystick working on Intrepid?
[01:19] <bazhang> Blais1, this is intrepid?
[01:19] <Blais1> bazhang: 8.06
[01:19] <bazhang> lakotajames, with what app
[01:19] <TheEdge_> i am using Mplayer  put when ever i play a dvd i can't use ctrl+m  nothing happens.. also when I click a menu button in the picture nothing happens
[01:19] <Slart> lakotajames: just connect it.. there are a couple of different calibration utilities available int eh repos
[01:19] <bazhang> Blais1, you mean 8.04?
[01:19] <Joeseph> I am completely lost on my 'smb'.   Yesterday it was working, and now I cannot access any windows share by ip or by computer name.
[01:19] <Scunizi> If I want to get Vinagre (Remote Desktop Viewer) to connect to a windows box that has tightVNC installed, does my machine have to have vnc installed as well?
[01:19] <Blais1> bazhang: oops yes
[01:20] <lakotajames> bazhang: with any app.  It doesn't show up anywhere.
[01:20] <Cyberai> karsten, but wouldn't an outside IP contacting my system be logged somewhere? No matter what the protocol?
[01:20] <lakotajames> bazhang: doesn't show up in /dev/input
[01:20] <bazhang> lakotajames, such as..could you give an example?
[01:20] <karsten> Cyberai: Not if the application doesn't  log it.  You might log access via iptables but that's entirely different.
[01:20] <lakotajames> Slart: doesn't show up in /dev/input
[01:20] <vock> rdw200169, I think i'm missing some repositories: There's one for Ubuntu 8.04 Officially supported, non-free drivers, but not the equivalent for 8.10
[01:20] <bazhang> Blais1, was this installed using restricted drivers, or from ati site directly
[01:20] <solexious> Can any one suggest a slide show program like feh, but be able to make transitions between images?
[01:20] <Slart> lakotajames: oh..normal usb joystick?
[01:21] <lakotajames> bazhang: i would be happy if it would show up anywhere.
[01:21] <Blais1> bazhang: I downloaded from the ati sitew
[01:21] <rdw200169> vock, anything intrepid specific, and i don't know, i still have not upgraded...
[01:21] <lakotajames> Slart: well, gamepad, but yes. usb.
[01:21] <rdw200169> vock, regardless, i have to leave for a while, i wish you luck, my friend
[01:21] <malibu> Hi can anyone tell me where the gnome config would be.. like to change the autohide settings for gnome panel
[01:21] <vock> rdw200169, i'm wishing i hadn't but no time to go backwards
[01:21] <lakotajames> Slart: had it working before. but not on Intrepid/
[01:21] <vock> rdw200169, thanks a lot for the help so far, made some progress
[01:21] <karsten> Cyberai: Logging is somewhat cooperative:  most daemons are set up to talk to syslogd which is set up to capture and record the log messages.  If an application doesn't generate messages, they're not logged.  If vpNC or whatever remote desktop is running ...
[01:22] <bazhang> lakotajames, perhaps I should rephrase, with what app are you trying to use it? zsnes? other?
[01:22] <karsten> Cyberai: uses PAM, then it's possible you can centrally control this.  You need to RTFM
[01:22] <Slart> lakotajames: hmm.. odd.. don't really know what to do then
[01:22] <HoNgOuRu> hi, can u help me? my home/user folder crash and restarts when trying to view it with nautilus
[01:22] <bazhang> karsten, dont use that acronym here please
[01:22] <Blais1> bazhang: in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log there is a line where it states "(II) fglrx(0): Restoring recent mode: 1024x768@75Hz" not sure why
[01:23] <karsten> bazhang: read the fine manual?
[01:23] <Munchkinguy> After having upgraded my computer, I can't log on anymore. The screen is stuck with a beige background and the spinny hourglass.
[01:23] <bazhang> Blais1, iirc its a problem with fglrx
[01:23] <Munchkinguy> Can someone please help me?
[01:23] <HoNgOuRu>  can u help me? my home/user folder crash and restarts when trying to view it with nautilus
[01:23] <lakotajames> bazhang: openlierox, but I don't even know if it supports Joystick, so I installed Joystick Calibrator, and it doesn't recognize it.
[01:23] <Cyberai> sorry karsten, the vinagre man is pathetically short and sheds no light, nor did google.
[01:23] <Blais1> Munchkinguy: can you log in in safe mode?
[01:23] <jrib> Munchkinguy: create a new user and see if the same thing happens for that user
[01:23] <lakotajames> Slart: thanks anyway.
[01:24] <karsten> Cyberai: sucks to be you I guess.
[01:24] <karsten> Cyberai: File a documentation bug.
[01:24] <Cyberai> karsten, thanks anyway
[01:24] <Blais1> bazhang: Everything else works fine, I can set my res once logged in, Games work, Wine works, Desktop effects work, it's just the resolution when I boot, I don't get it
[01:25] <Munchkinguy> Blais1: If I press Ctrl-Alt-F5, I can log in to the text mode.
[01:25] <karsten> 64 bit java plugin for Firefox:  install from repos or from Sun?
[01:25] <solexious> Can any one suggest a slide show program like feh, but be able to make transitions between images?
[01:25] <bazhang> lakotajames, I have had troubles with certain apps, luck with others; this is a usb joystick correct? ie game console joystick but with usb attachment
[01:25] <jrib> karsten: sun didn't have one last time I checked.  Has that changed?
[01:25] <Blais1> Munchkinguy: what about when you boot your machine, is the screen already beige, or do you have a graphical login screen?  another thing to try is to write startx in your terminal login
[01:25] <karsten> Munchkinguy: GNOME's fuxnored somehow.  Do you get a login screen at all?  Or does this happen when you give username/password?
[01:26] <lakotajames> bazhang: no, it is a standard meant-for-pc gamepad.  usb.
[01:26] <Blais1> Munchkinguy: sounds like you'll have to reinstall your graphics drivers
[01:26] <karsten> jrib: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1013658 which points ... not to Sun.  There's third-party refs.  I've deleted some tabs here.
[01:26] <arturo> where can i download powerdvd for ubuntu?
[01:26] <thief`> is there a c compiler i should use? i  need one to install an app.
[01:26] <karsten> jrib: Anywhoo:  use Ubuntu archives or 3rd party?
[01:26] <thief`> is there a good one fer ubuntu?
[01:26] <jrib> thief`: what app?
[01:26] <HoNgOuRu>  can u help me? my home/user folder crash and restarts when trying to view it with nautilus
[01:26] <thief`> vmware
[01:26] <fogobogo> thief`: gcc
[01:27] <karsten> thief`: gcc
[01:27] <thief`> oooh
[01:27] <jrib> karsten: right, so just use the repositories (this is what I do).  I use icedtea
[01:27] <Munchkinguy> It seems to be stuck on " /dev/sda: Setting Advance Power Management level to 0xfe (254)  [OK] "
[01:27] <karsten> thief`: I've told you thrree times and the answer's not going to change.
[01:27] <jrib> !vmware > thief`
[01:27] <karsten> jrib: No such package.
[01:27] <thief`> i'm getting somewhere with this vm...
[01:27] <hikenboot> anyone able to help with this ldd error ldd /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 and acpi management http://pastebin.ca/1322350
[01:27] <jrib> karsten: apt-cache search icedtea
[01:27] <karsten> jrib: What repos are you using?
[01:27] <arturo> is there any PIC16F84 programer under linux?
[01:28] <karsten> jrib: aptitude show icedtea > nada
[01:28]  * karsten searches.
[01:28] <jrib> karsten: right, so now try the command I just gave you
[01:28] <karsten> jrib: icedtea6-plugin got it.
[01:28] <karsten> thanks
[01:28] <ae88925> How can I determine how many threads a process has created?
[01:28] <fogobogo> arturo: whats a pic16f84?
[01:28] <thief`> sudo apt-get install gcc works?
[01:29] <Pici> !compile | thief`
[01:29] <karsten> jrib: Lessee if this gives joy....
[01:29] <jrib> thief`: I strongly recommend you read the documentation ubottu has sent you before proceeding (about vmware)
[01:29] <karsten> fogobogo: Google says ... what?
[01:29] <arturo> Pic16f84 is a microcontroller
[01:29] <marabout> I installed ubuntu on an old presario some weeks ago I finally put in a PCI for ethernet. I forgot password. Is there a way to retrieve or should I just reinstall?
[01:29] <karsten> fogobogo: NM.
[01:29] <PSPdemon> quick question
[01:29] <PSPdemon> how do i install the other wm's
[01:29] <PSPdemon> ?
[01:29] <Munchkinguy> Blais1, do you still think it's a graphics card problem?
[01:29] <karsten> marabout: that's  FAQ.
[01:29] <HoNgOuRu>  can u help me? my home/user folder crash and restarts when trying to view it with nautilus
[01:30] <lakotajames> bazhang: still there?
[01:30] <TheEdge_> i am using Mplayer  put when ever i play a dvd i can't use ctrl+m  nothing happens.. also when I click a menu button in the picture nothing happens
[01:30] <thief`> i just need the c compiler for vmware to use - not really for me to use.
[01:30] <HoNgOuRu> maybe it has to do with permissions
[01:30] <PSPdemon> i thought it was something like sudo apt-get install xfce-ubuntu ( ubuntu -xfce )
[01:30] <Blais1> Munchkinguy: not a card problem, a driver problem
[01:30] <HoNgOuRu> please give me a hand
[01:30] <karsten> PSPdemon: Install w/ aptitude.  They'll show up at your GDM/KDM login window as options for your X session
[01:30] <thief`> it needs it to finish the inst. as i have a mod'd kernel and it doesn't reconize it.
[01:30] <Munchkinguy> Ah.. that's what I meant.
[01:31] <solexious> If i run a command logged in to a computer and stiiting at it and run a command that spawns some thing graphical, i.e. feh, it works, but how can I do the same logged in over ssh?
[01:31] <ae88925> vmware will need a bunch of headers too
[01:31] <Blais1> Munchkinguy: can you login with safe mode?  did startx work?
[01:31] <lakotajames> PSPdemon Did you try looking through synaptic? i installed kde and xfce that way.
[01:31] <exodus_ms> HoNgOuRu: have you tried opening nautilus from the command line
[01:32] <Munchkinguy> Blais1, do you mean recovery mode?
[01:32] <PSPdemon> lakotajames, no didnt check there
[01:32] <PSPdemon> will check now
[01:32] <marabout> karsten: didnt find it there
[01:32] <bazhang> lakotajames, yes, just doing a quick search for your issue
[01:32] <thief`> aaaaah! ok, i have gcc apparently.  but vmware says this:
[01:32] <thief`> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[01:32] <thief`> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
[01:32] <Blais1> Munchkinguy: do you have a login screen?
[01:32] <Munchkinguy> no
[01:32] <lakotajames> PSPdemon just search for xfce or whatever
[01:33] <karsten> marabout:
[01:33] <HoNgOuRu> yes
[01:33] <karsten> marabout: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[01:33] <HoNgOuRu> exodus_ms
[01:33] <Blais1> Munchkinguy: is that when the screen is beige?  or otherwise where is it?
[01:33] <HoNgOuRu> its the same
[01:33] <exodus_ms> HoNgOuRu: not sure what version of Ubuntu your using but this link might be useful --> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/49943
[01:33] <Munchkinguy> Yes
[01:33] <lakotajames> bazhang: ok.  I didn't want to leave if you were still trying to help me.
[01:33] <HoNgOuRu> thanks
[01:33] <HoNgOuRu> I'll check it out
[01:33] <Blais1> Munchkinguy: when you go to Terminal (using ctrl+alt+F5) does startx work?
[01:33] <thief`> does my Q make sense?
[01:34] <Wolv3> basic question
[01:34] <Wolv3> what is the command to uninstall?
[01:34] <lakotajames> bazhang: and if you do find anything, tell me what search terms you used.  I have been looking all day/
[01:34] <svalenci> uninstall what wolv?
[01:34] <_VIM_> Wolv3: sudo apt-get remove PackagenameGoeshere
[01:34] <Wolv3> uniconvertor
[01:34] <jp_sf> Wolv3: sudo apt-get remove thenameofthepackage
[01:35] <Wolv3> ok ty
[01:35] <exodus_ms> HoNgOuRu: also, are you using compiz
[01:35] <HoNgOuRu> no
[01:35] <HoNgOuRu> I had to get rid of that one...too many problems
[01:35] <HoNgOuRu> and I need my box to work
[01:35] <solexious> If im logged in to a computer and stiiting at it and run a command that spawns some thing graphical, i.e. feh, it works, but how can I do the same logged in over ssh?
[01:36] <sm> hmm.. so is the gutsy->hardy kernel hanging with localedefs bug fixed, or not ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/249340
[01:36] <jrib> solexious: set DISPLAY appropriately
[01:36] <hikenboot> how do i get rid of the problem of a bad libz (1.2.3)?
[01:36] <svalenci> Now its my turn to ask a question, does any know of other irc chats but for solaris or aix systems?
[01:36] <solexious> jrib, display?
[01:37] <hikenboot> think it  was caused by a conflict between acpi-support and evolution
[01:37] <jp_sf> svalenci: #solaris #aix
[01:37] <svalenci> oh, just like that?
[01:37] <svalenci> cool
[01:37] <svalenci> thanks a lot jp
[01:37] <marine> ok resize my nfts to my ext3 do it thru livecd???
[01:37] <bazhang> lakotajames, was this openlierox from the PPA or from another source?
[01:37] <Wolv3> _VIM_,  jp_sf ty
[01:38] <_VIM_> np
[01:38] <exodus_ms> HoNgOuRu: on that I link o sent check the steps at the top. If that doesn't work one user mentioned this was the culprit 'My problem was solved. It was because of the (unintended!) presence of a file with bad characters.'
[01:38] <Wolv3> _VIM_,  jp_sf now i download a new version but it dont install via ./config and make and make install
[01:38] <karsten> jrib: Java Joy!  Thanks tons.
[01:38] <weatherkid2> marine: you can use the LiveCD to resize the Hard Drive
[01:38] <Wolv3> is http://sk1project.org/modules.php?name=Products&product=uniconvertor
[01:39] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[01:39] <HoNgOuRu> let me try
[01:39] <marine> weatherkid2, from my windows to linux
[01:39] <Wolv3> _VIM_,  jp_sf can tellme how to?
[01:39] <jp_sf> Wolv3: what are you trying to install ? what kind of error do you have ?
[01:39] <_VIM_> Wolv3: new version of what? and are you sure it's not in the repos? compiling is ugh!
[01:40] <oliver_> I want to uninstall VIM, so I did so via "Add Remove Programs", but under Synaptic Package manager, it is still listed.  I want to remove them, but I'm afriad it might remove other packages.  What should I do?
[01:40] <lakotajames> bazhang: i think it was from a manually installed deb.  But I the joystick doesn't even show up in /dev/input/, so i think the problem doesn't lie with openlierox.  and even if it does, I was going to use rejoystick to emulate the keyboard, but that doesn't work either.
[01:40] <HoNgOuRu> nope, all files have good names
[01:40] <_VIM_> I say leave the compiling to the pros
[01:40] <marine> weatherkid2, shrink my nfts then reformat to ext3 or use the unallocated partion and then refomat that into ext3
[01:40] <weatherkid2> marine, the LiveCD should partition it as the first or second step
[01:40] <solexious> jrib, display?
[01:40] <karsten> oliver_: Why?  vim's generally useful and I'd suggest you leave it there.
[01:40] <amischi> n nessun canale. Prova prima /join #<canale>
[01:40] <amischi>  Non sei in nessun canale. Prova prima /join #<canale>
[01:40] <Wolv3> _VIM_,  jp_sf this software is a converter // win version to linux version design software files
[01:40] <FloodBot3> amischi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:41] <_VIM_> Ubuntu has over 30 thousand packages, surely your app is going to be in the repos...
[01:41] <jp_sf> Wolv3: so it is not in the repository right ?
[01:41] <Wolv3> _VIM_,  jp_sf but the version 1.1.2 no work with some new files
[01:41] <marine> weatherkid2, i have already installed linux i want to use up the remaining harddrive space in windows because i'm running out of room
[01:41] <oliver_> karsten, i guess your right, but in the future if i wanted to remove it, how would i completely remove it?
[01:41] <_VIM_> Wolv3: ok well there should be a 'doc/s' 'readme' folder or file , you'll have to read those
[01:41] <_VIM_> Wolv3: hmmm have you tried backports?
[01:41] <_VIM_> !backports
[01:42] <jp_sf> Wolv3: ok It might need some lib what is the name of the program and what is the errors messages you have when you ./configure make install ?
[01:42] <Wolv3> _VIM_,  to install package:   python setup.py install
[01:42] <Wolv3>  (will be installed into Python site-packages/ directory)
[01:42] <oliver_> also why do people use emacs and vim when there are IDEs that do better jobs?
[01:42] <weatherkid2> marine, hmm. I think if you get GParted from the Repos you may be able to reformat the leftover space.
[01:43] <bazhang> lakotajames, which joystick was it? and this is not working with jscalibrator installed, correct?
[01:43] <_VIM_> Wolv3: if it has a 'setup.py' it shoudlnt need ./configure and all that rubbish
[01:43] <solexious> If im logged in to a computer and stiiting at it and run a command that spawns some thing graphical, i.e. feh, it works, but how can I do the same logged in over ssh?
[01:43] <marine> that's what i have gparted just resize my nfts file which will give me an unallocated parttion then merge into ext3
[01:44] <shira> My desktop effects stopped working after I plugged in a secondary monitor. Now it doesn't work even if the second monistor isn't plugged in. Any ideas? I'm on a macbook w/ ubuntu 8.10.
[01:44] <Wolv3> _VIM_, then how i install?
[01:44] <marine> weatherkid2, <marine> that's what i have gparted just resize my nfts file which will give me an unallocated parttion then merge into ext3
[01:44] <MethinX> iI want to beable to play Mp3s on my Ubuntu, how do I install a program that will allow them to play?
[01:44] <jrib> MethinX: double click on an mp3
[01:44] <lakotajames> bazhang: jscalibrator is installed, and it doesn't pick it up.  Joystick is "Recoil GGE909" and it did work before.  Been a long time ago, I would guess Hardy or Gutsy.
[01:44] <Munchkinguy> Blais1: startx yields this error http://pastebin.ca/1322361
[01:45] <MethinX> isnt there a codec that I need installed?
[01:45] <weatherkid2> marine, i am not the best with Partitions. I wig when ever i reformat mine using the automated app. That is the best I can do.
[01:45] <oliver_> MethinX, No
[01:45] <bazhang> ubuntu-restricted-extras MethinX
[01:45] <bazhang> MethinX, also check out packages from medibuntu.org
[01:45] <MethinX> thank you
[01:46] <shira> shira
[01:46] <_VIM_> Wolv3: i think its sudo python setup.py install or sudo python setup.py
[01:47] <amischi_> 'dpkg --configure -a'
[01:47] <amischi_> i have a problem with updating
[01:47] <_VIM_> !away | step21|away
[01:47] <amischi_> 'dpkg --configure -a'
[01:47] <MethinX> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:47] <solexious> If im logged in to a computer and stiiting at it and run a command that spawns some thing graphical, i.e. feh, it works, but how can I do the same logged in over ssh?
[01:47] <amischi_> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:47] <amischi_> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[01:48] <obtix> hey, i would like to use grep to get some data out of a file. I have a list with a ton of<EMAIL_ADDRESS>i want to display everything after the mailto: if possible.
[01:48] <_VIM_> amischi_: i'd add a 'sudo' to that
[01:48] <Bizzeh> ill start using free formats why my ipod supports compressed free formats
[01:48] <amischi_> i run 'dpkg --configure -a'  but said command not found
[01:48] <_VIM_> 9 times out of 10, when dealing with installing/removing or anything dealing with packages you'll need sudo
[01:49] <zanic> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:49] <weatherkid2> sudo is the King of Ubuntu Term lol
[01:49] <_VIM_> amischi_: no quotes
[01:49] <svalenci> lol
[01:50] <amischi_> i must write 'sudo dpkg  --configure -a'
[01:50] <_VIM_> no quotes
[01:50] <_VIM_> just sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:50] <nivek> help!!!! my graphics are totally messed up!!! I don't knwo what happend.... but how can i fix it?
[01:51] <amischi_> it is working
[01:51] <whatev> clean your glasses?
[01:51] <svalenci> lol
[01:51] <_VIM_> amischi_: ok :)
[01:51] <svalenci> nivek you got nvidia?
[01:51] <nivek> svalenci, yes
[01:52] <amischi_> it sais aborted
[01:52] <svalenci> sudo apt-get install envy
[01:52] <bazhang> lakotajames, is it detected as a mouse and sometimes causes crashes? there is a bug from early in intrepid with that particular make and model usb gamepad
[01:52] <svalenci> it is suppose to install the nvidia drier
[01:52] <_VIM_> !fixapt | amischi_
[01:53] <nivek> svalenci, so i should sudo apt-get install nvidia driver?
[01:53] <svalenci> envy is the application you need to install... it will install your nvidia drivers
[01:53] <King_InuYasha> is something in Ubuntu intrepid that breaks the fglrx proprietary driver?
[01:53] <svalenci> I just tried it today and it worked for me
[01:53] <_VIM_> !envy
[01:54] <lakotajames> bazhang: I don't think it is detected as a mouse.  How would I be able to tell?  none of the buttons do anything.  And the sticks don't do anything either.  I haven't crashed, but I haven't had it plugged in that long, either.
[01:54] <crimzon> Hello everyone.
[01:54] <bazhang> svalenci, envyng-gtk is always the last choice here
[01:54] <nivek> which envy do i install? core, gtk, or qt?
[01:54] <King_InuYasha> because its really annoying that since the FOSS driver doesn't support OpenGL 2.1, that I need to use a driver that doesnt work
[01:55] <bazhang> nivek, which card and what version of ubuntu
[01:55] <nivek> bazhang, hwo can i find out?
[01:55] <svalenci> nivek talk to bazhang he sounds like he knows more about it
[01:55] <bazhang> lsb_release -a for version nivek
[01:55] <bazhang> lspci for card nivek
[01:55] <nivek> bazhang, ubuntu version is 10
[01:55] <bdubnc> Hey guys I have a little bit of a problem.  I am using Ubuntu server 8.04.2.  I need to know how I can downgrade php 5.2.4 to 5.1.  I need to because our developers are build there applications using nusoap and it conflicting with the default soap server installation.  There is no way of shutting this down unless I fully re-build php 5.2.  I just want to downgrade which would be easier
[01:56] <crimzon> Has anyone had any luck with getting the Intel 945 GPU to display textures correctly in D3D environments?
[01:56] <bazhang> lakotajames, okay, well it worked fine under feisty apparently but there is at least one bug in intrepid I have seen associated with that gamepad
[01:57] <thief`> you guys recommend a good podcast for people new to ubuntu?
[01:57] <thief`> i want to learn more.
[01:57] <xim_> how can i install open office 3? only the old version is in synaptic (2.4) and it doesnt format documents the same
[01:57] <DClayBuck> Anybody have any idea why I might be getting a CRC error during Grub loading after installing the most recent updates in Intrepid 64?
[01:57] <svalenci> thief, you will learn a whole lot more by reading the uubunto forum and putting it to practice. :)
[01:57] <nivek> bazhang, nVidia Corporation GeForce 7150M and 8.10
[01:58] <_michele> Girls allowed here ?
[01:58] <lakotajames> bazhang: The first distro i used was gutsy, and am now on intrepid.  I know it worked before.  So does this mean that I can't use the pad?  Are there any work arounds?
[01:58] <svalenci> Well michele I am a girl... kill me for it lol
[01:58] <_michele> hi there
[01:58] <bazhang> http://a15.video2.blip.tv/1510000556556/Ubuntupodcast-UbuntuPodcastEpisode18415.ogg thief`
[01:58] <svalenci> welcome _michele
[01:58] <_michele> ty
[01:58] <bazhang> thief`, found via distrowatch.com
[01:59] <marine> svalenci, sweet name
[01:59] <amischi_> i have done does'n t run
[01:59] <svalenci> TY TY very much, my momma gave it to me
[01:59] <svalenci> lol
[01:59] <marine> svalenci, what else did she give you
[01:59] <nivek> bazhang, which envy do i install? core, gtk, or qt? I have nVidia Corporation GeForce 7150M and 8.10. Thanks :)
[01:59] <bazhang> nivek, should be in hardware drivers; have you checked the driver there
[02:00] <bazhang> nivek, dont believe envyng-gtk is needed in intrepid anymore, I have nearly the same card and hardware drivers takes care of it
[02:00] <gmap> how can i stop keyring from asking for my password anyone?
[02:00] <nivek> bazhang, no it worked fine earlier today....but i had an "acciednet'...i opened like a trillion terminal windows (plus or minus 1) and i dont know w hat happend after that..but my video was lal messed up
[02:00] <lakotajames> bazhang: Are there very many joypads that don't work under intrepid?  This one was only like $10. but i don't want to buy another if there is a very big chance of it not working.
[02:00] <candive> Hi all, Please explain: chris@chris-laptop:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:00] <candive> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[02:00] <candive> Aborted
[02:00] <candive> chris@chris-laptop:~$
[02:00] <FloodBot3> candive: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:00] <bazhang> nivek, do you have nvidia-settings installed?
[02:01] <nivek> bazhang, yea on my initial install of ubuntu i had no problems..
[02:01] <nivek> bazhang, i don't know if i do...
[02:01] <bazhang> lakotajames, just bought two cheap ones and they work fine, though with zsnes, not with openlierox; perhaps the PPA will give you better luck :)
[02:01] <marine> svalenci, you never answered me :)
[02:02] <candive> ok? now please explain "flood" ther are onlya few words?
[02:02] <svalenci> if that was the case, he would be receiving notification about nvia drivers to be installed. or missing. No?
[02:02] <candive> !flood
[02:02] <bazhang> candive, no, there are four consecutive lines; if you need to paste, use paste.ubuntu.com in the future
[02:02] <nivek> bazhang, k i tried xconfig ..gonny it worksa reboot thanks for the help..hopefull
[02:03] <lakotajames> bazhang: maybe i should try zsnes.  maybe the other programs are the problems.  Also, I think i searched for openlierox in teh repos, and didn't find it.
[02:03] <bazhang> lakotajames, there is a PPA if you need the link
[02:03] <candive> bazhang, thanks 4 line max? I never noticed that before
[02:03] <tabidachi_> Hello--how do I add adobe's open type fonts to Ubuntu?
[02:04] <lakotajames> bazhang: is the link on teh sourceforge page? because if it is, thats probably how it is installed.
[02:04] <svalenci> Rules are rules candive, nothing we can do about it besides sticking to them, after all it is a free service :)
[02:04] <bazhang> lakotajames, no its a launchpad PPA ; /msg ubottu ppa for more info if you wish
[02:04] <gmap> how do you get firefox to run fullscreen when running it in xsession
[02:04] <crimzon> How can I improve texture rendering in Direct 3D enviroments. Intel GMA950 chipset with 945 GPU
[02:05] <lakotajames> bazhang: ok, I will look into it.  I g2g for now, though.  thanks for the help :)
[02:06] <DClayBuck> Installed Intrepid x64 updates today via GUI.  Now I get a CRC error from grub and the system halts on boot.  Can anybody help me figure out what's going on?
[02:06] <candive> I have never flooded before so I'm lost as to exactly what i did??
[02:06] <bazhang> gmap f11
[02:06] <crimzon> spam!!! spam!!! baned for life!
[02:07] <markl_> did you cut and paste something?
[02:07] <svalenci> hehe
[02:07] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[02:07] <crimzon> banned*
[02:07] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[02:07] <_VIM_> !away > Hero[brb[
[02:07] <gmap> bazhang the window size does not cover the enter screen
[02:07] <tabidachi_> jp_sf, there is nothing about open type fonts there
[02:07] <crimzon> Any Vaio users out there?
[02:07] <candive> Hi please see my paste. http://paste.ubuntu.com/111517/
[02:07] <DClayBuck> candive: It's called flooding when you send a bunch of messages to the channel at the same time.
[02:08] <The_Rebel> is there a 64bit flash plugin in the repos yet?
[02:08] <phpstar> hello everyone
[02:08] <thief`> thanks bazhang
[02:08] <gmap> bazhang in my xinitrc file i put exec firefox -fullscreen however it does not fill the whole screen
[02:08] <phpstar> can i use LTSP to deploy Win XP image on thin clients ??
[02:08] <thief`> if i want to update virtualbox, can i just do sudo apt-get upgrade virtualbox  ? will that jsut update that one prog?
[02:09] <candive> ?
[02:09] <xim_> how can i install open office 3? only the old version is in synaptic (2.4) and it doesnt format documents the same.  i dled the package from the website but its full of rpms
[02:09] <bazhang> thief`, virtualbox-ose? or the one downloaded from 3rd party site
[02:09] <phpstar> i need this help to setup christian school
[02:09] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: you will have to convert them, but you could try opentype font were developed by Microsoft and Adobe not the most open source friendly companies in the world
[02:09] <_VIM_> xim_: rpms are for Fedora/RedHat ... Ubuntu uses .debs
[02:09] <phpstar> pls anyone who knows help me pls
[02:09] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: you will have to convert them, but you could try to install them
[02:09] <Munchkinguy> I fixed my login problem; I had some old versions of libz in /usr/local/lib
[02:10] <tabidachi_> jp_sf, I know, but I need them for graphic design.
[02:10] <thief`> hmm, i'm not sure which i want. ii thought i had it installed, but now - not so sure.
[02:10] <bazhang> xim_, there is a PPA for that, but it is at your own risk so be advised
[02:10] <xim_> _VIM_: hehe i know thats the problem, can you not use the modern OO on ubuntu?
[02:10] <tabidachi_> jp_sf, you can pm me if you want
[02:10] <xim_> bazhang: PPA?
[02:10] <_VIM_> xim_:  bah, bazhang beat me to it, follow what he just told you
[02:10] <bazhang> !ppa
[02:10] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: I understand but I would try to install them in /usr/share/fonts and and then update the fontdatabase
[02:10] <bazhang> xim_, ^^
[02:11] <xim_> thx sir
[02:11] <phpstar> can i use LTSP to deploy Win XP image on thin clients ??
[02:11] <tabidachi_> jp_sf, these are otf files, is that okay?
[02:11] <thief`> actually, i gotta see if i can run it on my kernel.
[02:11] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: I don't PM you as I believe that somebody more skilled than myself could talk about it
[02:11] <xim_> So is it really risky?  would I be better of waiting for it to get into synaptic?
[02:12] <bazhang> xim_, not sure as have not tried but the risk factor is probably lower than trying out a unsupported kernel for example
[02:12] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: I don't have those fonts but you could tryto install them make a directory in /usr/share/fonts/type1
[02:12] <xim_> hmm ok
[02:13] <DClayBuck> Installed Intrepid x64 updates today via GUI.  Now I get a CRC error from grub and the system halts on boot.  Can anybody help me figure out what's going on?
[02:13] <solexious> If im logged in to a computer and stiiting at it and run a command that spawns some thing graphical, i.e. feh, it works, but how can I do the same logged in over ssh?
[02:13] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: copy them in a directory otf like sudo mkdir /usr/share/fonts/type1/otf
[02:13] <dmoerner> solexious: ssh -X
[02:13] <X3S> How can I kill firefox from the processus
[02:13] <SpaceAceX> I just got a ga-e7aum-ds2h mobo (9400mGPU) and installed ubuntu 8.04 but I cant seem to get the nvidia 180.22 drivers working for it only vesa... can anyone help?
[02:13] <dmoerner> X3S: killall -q firefox
[02:13] <solarwar> did ubuntu 8.10 stop using /etc/X11/xorg.conf? if so what configuration files does it use? Or how may I tweak it?
[02:13] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: copy your fonts there /usr/share/fonts/type1/otf
[02:13] <tabidachi_> jp_sf, then what?
[02:13] <dmoerner> solarwar: it now auto-detects. if you think you are smarter than it you can still get an old-style config file by running X -configure
[02:14] <solexious> dmoerner, thank you
[02:14] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: sudo mkfontdir /usr/share/fonts/type1/otf
[02:14] <X3S> dmoerner,  Thanks, can I found a graphic for processus kill like windows one ?
[02:14] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: cd /usr/share/fonts/type1
[02:14] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: sudo fc-cache
[02:14] <dave_> hi
[02:15] <dave_> i cant get my s-video out to work on my toshiba satelite
[02:15] <BlueKoala> X3S: Click on System - Administration - System monitor
[02:15] <dave_> that is after X starts
[02:15] <solarwar> dmoerner, thanks, what does X do? there is no man page?
[02:15] <tabidachi_> jp_sf, is that all?
[02:15] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: you will have to restart your graphical environment  to reload them I would believe
[02:15] <X3S> BlueKoala,  Thanks ^^
[02:15] <tabidachi_> jp_sf, I'll give it a try.
[02:16] <dave_> the startup splash screen shows on the tv , so the button works, i assume its a problem with X
[02:16] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: gdm restart
[02:16] <thief`> bazhang,  now i dont know which vbox to get.
[02:17]  * porter1 looks on as Firefox continues its instability spree with Flash Player..
[02:17] <bazhang> thief`, -ose has no usb support; depends if you need that
[02:17] <mackmgg> hi
[02:17] <solexious> dmoerner, that seems to open the graphical bit on the computer in sshing from not the computer in sshing into...
[02:17] <mackmgg> anyone have a macbook pro w/ ubuntu
[02:17] <[TiZ]> Hi. I have a question about a little quirk. When I run a game in fullscreen, I am unable to use the volume keys for my laptop. However, when I play a fullscreen game in Wine, they work perfectly. Is there a way to get my volume keys to work in linux native games?
[02:17] <mrpinky> hi guys, "id" command shows that i am a member of "lp" and "lpadmin", but i still get a permission error accessing /dev/parport0 i note that /dev/parport0 is a ppdev device not lp device. how can i give myself permissions to access /dev/parport0? :)
[02:17] <bazhang> !macbook
[02:18] <BlueEagle> !anyone | mackmgg
[02:18] <mackmgg> the trackpad isn't working right on my computer
[02:18] <dave_> i cant get my s-video out to work on my toshiba satelite
[02:18] <dave_> the startup splash screen shows on the tv , so the button works, i assume its a problem with X
[02:18] <orbstra> hey I am running the latest ubuntu server, and I am trying to connect to an external USB drive i have plugged int... I am not positive waht format the external HD is, but it is either NTFS or FAT32... and I need to mount it and transfter the files off thruogh command line.. help would be great
[02:19] <WebcamWonder> orbstra: If you have ubuntu with gnome (GUI), it should automount it for you
[02:19] <orbstra> ** use command line to transfter the files off...
[02:19] <orbstra> WebcamWonder : I am connecting tot eh server with ssh
[02:19] <WebcamWonder> orbstra: Oops, missed the cli part
[02:19] <gandhii> newb question: trying to make a launcher that runs a bash script to mount a series of shares..   gksu bash script.sh is working from the terminal, but not when inserted into a launcher.   What am I missing here?
[02:20] <dmsuperman> When printing to my school's printer they require a separator page...how might I print that in Ubuntu?
[02:20] <orbstra> WebcamWonder : hehe yeh.. any ideas bud?
[02:20] <mrpinky> i should add that "chmod 777 /dev/parport0" works, but how should i automate this? do i really need to put the chmod in some startup script, or is there a "clean" way to do it, a group i can add myself to? :)
[02:20] <BlueEagle> mrpinky: Which group does the device belong to?
[02:20] <mrpinky> BlueEagle, how can i find out? :)
[02:20] <BlueEagle> mrpinky: ls -l /dev/parport0
[02:20] <thief`> bazhang,  hmm, i'd need bluetooth, it doesn't work?
[02:20] <BlueEagle> mrpinky: That should show owner:group for the file.
[02:20] <mackmgg> so, anyone know how to get the trackpad on a macbook pro 3,1 working?
[02:20] <WebcamWonder> orbstra: sudo fdisk -l (to get the partition table). sudo mount /dev/<device_name> /mount/point
[02:20] <yoyoned> orbstra: sudo mkdir /mnt/usb;mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb
[02:20] <thief`> bazhang, usb i guess... heh, i could do without.
[02:20] <WebcamWonder> orbstra: and then use cp
[02:20] <nathanhelp> I would like some advice. I have two machines. One has Ubuntu, the other has a duel boot WinXP, and Ubuntu, each on separate Harddrives. I want all three to be able to link to the same Thunderbird profile. Any tips?
[02:20] <BlueEagle> mrpinky: Also, have you logged out and back in after adding yourself to the group (including re-starting X)?
[02:20] <mrpinky> BlueEagle, i see "crwxrwxrwx 1 lp scanner 99, 0 2009-01-30 13:05 /dev/parport0", looks to be a member of "lp", "scanner" and "99"?
[02:20] <bazhang> thief`, its not supporte d in the -ose version (usb)
[02:20] <[TiZ]> Hi. I have a question about a little quirk. When I run a game in fullscreen, I am unable to use the volume keys for my laptop. However, when I play a fullscreen game in Wine, they work perfectly. Is there a way to get my volume keys to work in linux native games?
[02:20] <mackmgg> wait is there a channel for macbooks?
[02:20] <thief`> bazhang, it's really jsut so ii can play fulltilt poker. hahah
[02:21] <candive>  Hi please see my paste. http://paste.ubuntu.com/111517/
[02:22] <orbstra> alright gimme a sec to try those guys... THANKS for the help btw it is always appreciated
[02:22] <solexious> If im logged in to a computer and stiiting at it and run a command that spawns some thing graphical, i.e. feh, it works, but how can I do the same logged in over ssh, with the graphical side opening on the computer being ssh'd into?
[02:22] <thief`> bazhang, it happen to support bluetooth?
[02:22] <bazhang> thief`, not sure there, as I have no bluetooth vbox needs at the moment :)
[02:22] <WebcamWonder> solexious: Look at X over SSH. It allows you to run GUI programs over ssh
[02:22] <thief`> hehe, i hear ya.
[02:22] <joaboaconstrctr> hey all--anyone know the command to change permissions for file with the following pathname in terminal>> /media/74.5 GB_BACKUPS<<
[02:22] <thief`> i'm running an asus eee - it usues a special kernel.
[02:22] <solexious> webcamwonder, thank you
[02:22] <thief`> so i not sure if it'll work.
[02:23] <orbstra> you guys are the BEST
[02:23] <bazhang> thief`, the array kernel? should do
[02:23] <thief`> right.
[02:23] <orbstra> it worked
[02:23] <orbstra> thanks guys SERIOUSLY
[02:23] <thief`> i've read the one ver. doesn't work?
[02:23] <mrpinky> BlueEagle, yep i restarted whole pc
[02:23] <BlueEagle> mrpinky: Then you need to be a member of the "scanner" group to use the device.
[02:23] <BlueEagle> mrpinky: lp is the owner and scanner is the group.
[02:23] <mrpinky> BlueEagle, ah i see
[02:23] <BlueEagle> mrpinky: So add the user(s) you want to be able to use the device to the scanner group and, if neccessary, log them out and back in and it should be availible.
[02:23] <mrpinky> BlueEagle, so users need to be in the same group as a file to access the file?
[02:23] <BlueEagle> mrpinky: Well, seeing as that file (now) is rwx for others it should not be neccessary tbh.
[02:23] <mrpinky> BlueEagle, ah depends on the permissions :) i get it
[02:23] <bazhang> thief`, the 3rd party or the -ose? if one does not work its easy to get the other
[02:24] <solexious> webcamwonder, am I confused, as that seems to be about opening gui's on the box being ssh'd from not into
[02:24] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[02:24] <thief`> i am from winders. i just don't like inst. / uninst. progs. hahah
[02:24] <thief`> ruins my registry.
[02:25] <bazhang> thief`, no need to worry here :)
[02:25] <thief`> i tried to inst. vmware... failed. it didnt like my array kernel.
[02:25] <WebcamWonder> solexious: Oh, my bad. You want to run a gui program on the ssh server?
[02:25] <solexious> webcamwonder, Yup :)
[02:25] <nathanhelp> I would like some advice. I have two machines. One has Ubuntu, the other has a duel boot WinXP, and Ubuntu, each on separate Harddrives. I want all three to be able to link to the same Thunderbird profile. Any tips?
[02:25] <bazhang> thief`, if this is intrepid then vbox is much better supported
[02:25] <WebcamWonder> solexious: Then how would you interact with it?
[02:25] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: Dropbox
[02:25] <thief`> it wanted me to get headers, i diid that, then it needed a c compiler to to the kernel module (or something) and that failed.
[02:25] <vale_maio> hello world
[02:25] <thief`> yep, on intrepid. 8 10
[02:26] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: Or rsync, pick your favourite
[02:26] <thief`> really? so screw vmware?
[02:26] <solexious> webcamwonder, Dont need to, im usinf feh to make a slide show happens, hands free
[02:26] <thief`> i thunk vmware would be waaay better as it's so popular / old / tried  and true.
[02:26] <nathanhelp> !rsync
[02:26] <pasteeater> i like this thread title: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1053932
[02:26] <bazhang> thief`, your choice really, or try wine to see if that will run it check the !appdb
[02:27] <thief`> yeah, wine doesn't work well for that app... i hear ya though.
[02:27] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Well, the most reasonable thing to do would be to export that profile from the machine just using one OS.
[02:27] <thief`> so really though? from what you said, it sounds great. the ose ver. will work ok for this eee with array kernel?
[02:27] <solexious> webcamwonder, wow, I did a lot of typos then
[02:27] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: That ofcourse does require that this machine be online for the others to have access to that profile.
[02:27] <orbstra> any ideas?
[02:27] <nathanhelp> Please expand BlueEagle...
[02:27] <thief`> fulltilt freezes in wine, and you lose the game cause of it. hah
[02:27] <thief`> not good.
[02:27] <g4lv4tr0n> hi how do i get my pci dvb card working in ubuntu ?
[02:28] <WebcamWonder> solexious: hmm. I have no clue. ssh doesn't work like that, unless there is some config that changes it to behave in that kind of a manner
[02:28] <WebcamWonder> orbstra: ?
[02:28] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/expand
[02:28] <vale_maio> can someone give me a little help?
[02:28] <solexious> webcamwonder, would telnet work you think?
[02:28] <aesa> i am looking for somebody to help me out with edubuntu os installed computer
[02:28] <orbstra> sorry to be a bother.. but how do I coppy the entire contents of the current folder I am in through CLI
[02:28] <danbhfive> I thought I heard someone owns an eeepc.  [q]  Where are the in and out take vents?
[02:28] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle: lol. Not what I meant.
[02:29] <WebcamWonder> orbstra: cp -r /source /dest (I THINK, I AM NOT SURE!)
[02:29] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Well, what did you mean? Because I am quite certain that you did not want me to become obese.
[02:29] <joaboaconstrctr> can anyone help with a command line question?
[02:29] <WebcamWonder> solexious: I don't think so. I need you need some vnc variant to do that
[02:29] <WebcamWonder> joaboaconstrctr: ?
[02:29] <Dr_willis> orbstra,  or cheat like i do and install the 'mc' file manager. :) and use it..
[02:29] <DIFH-ice1oot> !ask | joaboaconstrctr
[02:29] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle: Haha :D. I meant can you expand your explanation on that. Exporting? machine online for them to access?
[02:29] <adieee_> hai
[02:29] <solexious> webcamwonder, well thanks any way :)
[02:30] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: If I understood you correctly, you need to sync between 4 different OS right?
[02:30] <WebcamWonder> solexious: Sorry, couldn't help you any further
[02:30] <joaboaconstrctr> ok...how do I change ownership of an external drive directory  with the following address (the spaces were created in os x)>>/media/74.5 GB_BACKUPS
[02:30] <nathanhelp> WebcamWonder: No just 2 different os's on three different HD's
[02:31] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle: expand : 7. to express something more fully or in greater detail
[02:31] <nathanhelp> :P
[02:31] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Well, if I understood your question correctly you want to have access to the same piece(s) of data from three different scenarios. What you want to do is to store this data in one place as to more easily keep it synchronised. To do that you would most likely want to share the storage on which this data is keept.
[02:31] <WebcamWonder> joaboaconstrctr: With nautilus right click on the folder and change the permission. However, changing permission is not something we recommend
[02:31] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle: Thats correct.
[02:32] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: And that is why I said, Dropbox, or rsync :)
[02:32] <thief`> bazhang,  so really though? from what you said, it sounds great. the ose ver. will work ok for this eee with array kernel?
[02:32] <joaboaconstrctr> <WebcamWonder:  I need to create a directory on an external drive, already formatted to back up
[02:32] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: To accomplish this you would like to export a share from the machine that is only using one operating system. The reason for choosing this to export from is because it will always have access to the data and would always be able to read the partition information.
[02:32] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle: How would i go about doing so, and what is a safe way of doing so? Would Ubuntu accessing NTFS Directory cause a problem?
[02:32] <nathanhelp> !dropbox
[02:32] <bazhang> thief`, well I did qualify it with 'should do', though if it does not the other certainly will
[02:32] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: However the limitation you incur with such a setup is that the machine exporting the shared data need to be turned off and have a working network connection for this to work.
[02:33] <BlueEagle> !ntfs | nathanhelp
[02:33] <joaboaconstrctr> <WebcamWonder:  also, I want to get away from the gui and start working on the command line
[02:33] <WebcamWonder> joaboaconstrctr: mkdir /path/to/folder, for creating directories, and chmod for changing permissions
[02:34] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: What you DO want to do is to have the one machine running only Ubuntu define a shared network resource (this might be SMB or LDAP depending on your personal taste) and have the machine using both Ubuntu and Windows mount that shared resource and read the data from it.
[02:34] <thief`> bazhang,  oh, sorry, ok, thank you. as before i was  reading it didn't work, but maybe intrepid fixed those probs i read as you mentioned. thank you.
[02:34] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: An alternative implimentation that would achieve the same goal (read mail from everywhere) would be to use IMAP instead of POP to read your mail.
[02:35] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle:  I already have got it set up. however im concerned that it is corrupting my WinXp drive. Would it be a good idea to have the profile on a Fat32 partition? And can both WinXP and Ubuntu write to those?
[02:35] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Did you read what ubottu told you about !ntfs ?
[02:35] <nathanhelp> doing so now. I have a slow computer :)
[02:35] <phirestalker> does anyone know of a way to list the currently installed programs by date last used?
[02:36] <joaboaconstrctr> <WebcamWonder:  my problem is that I don't know the syntax for the path>> /media/74.5 GB_BACKUPS
[02:36] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: ie. you want to use ntfs-3g drivers if you want to write to ntfs. What you could do is to make a fat-partition just to keep the shared data as writing to fat is more tried and tested.
[02:36] <WebcamWonder> joaboaconstrctr: sudo chmod <your permissions here> /media/74.5\ GB_BACKUPS
[02:36] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Still, accessing the same data on several computers requires that that data be shared over the network in any case.
[02:37] <joaboaconstrctr> thanks
[02:37] <redvamp128> BlueEagle:  also he should probably want to install the NTFS configuration tool as well
[02:37] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle: I read it but it didnt mean much to me.
[02:37] <Out_Cold> has anyone used outguess here before?
[02:38] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Oh, and "please expand BlueEagle" is not the same as "please expand, BlueEagle". :)
[02:38] <nathanhelp> lol I like you.
[02:38] <BlueEagle> ;)
[02:39] <phpstar> #wiul
[02:40] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Well, when you mount the ntfs-partition you want to specify that it is -t ntfs-3g and not -t ntfs (the latter only provides read access by default and the write access is broken)
[02:40] <kao> Hello, Does anyone have any idea why Firefox crashes every time I view a webpage that has Flash content imbedded within?
[02:40] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle: Ok. I'm sorry about my missing comma. The things i've read say that Ubuntu is unable to write to NTFS without some help/tweaking/correct tools. But... Me in my naivety (SP) has done so already and it is working. But..now my WinXP is having some weird behaviour. Could I have damaged the WinXP by allowing the ubuntu to write to the Thunderprofile?
[02:41] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: That depends on the nature of said "weird behaviour".
[02:41] <Out_Cold> kao, get flashblock from the repos.. that solved my problem
[02:41] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: What you may see is windows scanning the drive when you boot. But other than that the drivers should not affect the data on the drive.
[02:41] <nathanhelp> Network drivers just stopped. Cant System Restore...Other littler thigns that dont stop the XP from working, just annoying.
[02:41] <kao> Out_Cold: Does this do exactly what the name implys and just blocks all flash content?
[02:42] <kao> Out_Cold: If So, This is not what I want.
[02:42] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Well, that doesn't sound like data corruption. Just coincidences.
[02:42] <Out_Cold> it will block it until you click on the flash object..
[02:42] <Out_Cold> kao, it works well with the crashing problem and allows faster loading
[02:42] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Also, someone mentioned some ntfs configuration tools. You might want to ask redvamp128 about it.
[02:42] <kao> Out_Cold: Ok, I will try that. Thank you
[02:43] <Out_Cold> then if you want the flash, you just click..
[02:43] <redvamp128> nathan in the repository there is ntfsconfiguration tool
[02:43] <phirestalker> does anyone know of a way to list the currently installed programs by date last used?
[02:43] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle: Ok fair enough. I'm aware that the computer needs to be on for any of the three HD's to access the TB profile. That's not really a prob, but im looking for ideas on how to set this up. Thanks redvamp128.
[02:43] <EcheloCross> "I fixed my login problem; I had some old versions of libz in /usr/local/lib" (c) Munchkinguy
[02:43] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  there is also a ntfs configuration tool which helps mount and unmount NTFS correctly
[02:44] <nathanhelp> Wow. busy today :)
[02:44] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Well, what I would do is to get an old laptop and set it up as an IMAP-server. But that's not what you were asking for. :)
[02:44] <nathanhelp> My email is Pop3 how would i configure it to IMAP? call my ISP/email provider?
[02:44] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  it is labeled ntfs-config and is located under the ntfs-3g
[02:45] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Well you would have the old laptop fetch it from your isp and provide the imap to your local machines.
[02:45] <nathanhelp> redvamp128: symantic will do?
[02:45] <redvamp128> yes it is there
[02:45] <redvamp128> Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices
[02:45] <redvamp128> This program allow you to easily configure all of your NTFS devices
[02:45] <redvamp128> to allow write support via a friendly gui.
[02:45] <redvamp128> For that use, it will configure them to use the open source ntfs-3g
[02:45] <redvamp128> driver. You'll also be able to easily disable this feature.
[02:45] <FloodBot1> redvamp128: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:45] <redvamp128> Sorry baout the flood
[02:46] <nathanhelp> how stable is NTFS write nowdays?
[02:46] <redvamp128> Well some say it can write to NTFS for win2k and Xp just fine but sometimes it breaks when writing to Vista or Win7
[02:46] <kao> Out_Cold: Still displays flash content without me clicking on any sort of button, also still crashing =/
[02:47] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: I had datacorruption when copying a large file (>2G) FROM an ntfs-partition to an ext3 partition using the fuse driver. But that's about a year ago.
[02:47] <Out_Cold> kao, it's installed?
[02:47] <nathanhelp> Vista and Win7 are irrelevant to my situation, so i will log that for when I need it. :)
[02:47] <kao> Out_Cold:yes
[02:47] <Out_Cold> then make sure it's enabled in the plug-ins in the browser it's self
[02:47] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  it is more or less to give the ability to copy from NTFS over to Native but still has the possiblilty of data corruption
[02:47] <Gnea> phirestalker: something like this?  find /var/lib/dpkg/info/ -ls | awk '{print $8" " $9" "$10" "$11}' | sed -e 's/\/var\/lib\/dpkg\/info\///g' | sort
[02:48] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: What I would really recomend is to not store the data on an ntfs-partition if it's irreplacable.
[02:48] <nathanhelp> redvamp128, BlueEagle: data corruption. Would that include drivers for XP?
[02:48] <KemrinH> I LOST THE GAME (ILOSTTHEGAME.ORG) ~~ I'm Sorry >_<
[02:48] <Trenter> Question:  My windows partition is gone from the grub boot loader and im freaking out, how do I get my windows partition back in the grub menu??
[02:48] <Gnea> !ot | KemrinH
[02:48]  * nathanhelp ignores KemrinH
[02:48] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  is more or less for large files
[02:49] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  the better work-around is having a fat32 partition for the fileshare between the two
[02:49] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: There are stable ext2-drivers for windows availible which I find more trustworthy as ext2 and 3 are open standards while any attempt at writing an ntfs-driver will involve some gueswork.
[02:49] <SpaceAceX> Any got a ga-e7aum-ds2h mobo (9400mGPU) , ubuntu 8.04 with working nvidia 180+ drivers?
[02:49] <nomasteryoda> nathanhelp, i've done just that with a fat32 partition between ubuntu and xp
[02:50] <nathanhelp> redvamp128, BlueEagle, How would i go about creating a Fat32 partition from this machine (single boot Ubuntu)
[02:50] <nomasteryoda> made it very easy to put Firefox and thunderbird in that part then they were shared
[02:50] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  I would check the following page for more details -- http://www.ntfs-3g.org
[02:50] <ruckerz> I have an ATI X300SE video card, with compiz/fglrx enabled, totem doesn't display any video?
[02:50] <Out_Cold> kao, if enabling it still doesn't work, try restarting firefox
[02:50] <nathanhelp> thanks redvamp128
[02:50] <Wips> I'm having a really hard time getting some nvidia drivers for my laptop with xubuntu 8.10.. I've tried several things but nothing works so  I'm stuck with the awful resolution
[02:50] <kao> Out_Cold:I have cycled enabling/disabling it 4 times and restarted firefox 6 times
[02:51] <nomasteryoda> nathanhelp, you should boot the live cd and use the partition tool (gparted) to resize and make what you need.
[02:51] <Trenter> Wips:  take a look at envyng
[02:51] <phirestalker> Gnea, is that the install date or the last accessed or executed date?
[02:51] <Out_Cold> hmm... then i'm at a loss mate.. what works on one doesn't always work on the rest..
[02:51] <nathanhelp> nomasteryoda: Could i do that without the Livecd?
[02:51] <Trenter> Question:  I lost my windows paritition from my grub boot loader, can anyone help me?
[02:51] <rww> !envyng | Wips
[02:51] <popcornPanic> can i use an Apple usb mouse in ubuntu?
[02:51] <rww> popcornPanic: yes
[02:51] <rdw200169> popcornPanic, yes, i have; even got it working Bluetooth
[02:51] <Wips> Trenter: I tried it but I just ended up with a stupid error "/usr/share/envy: No such file or directory"
[02:52] <popcornPanic> thanks :D
[02:52] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  that ntfs-config is a better way to enable and disable write to ntfs
[02:52] <kao> Hello, Does anyone have any idea why Firefox crashes every time I view a webpage that has Flash content imbedded within?
[02:52] <Gnea> phirestalker: install date - afaik, there is no 'last accessed' database - takes up too many resources
[02:52] <popcornPanic>  rdw200169: i'm cheap i'll go with usb
[02:52] <WebcamWonder> kao: Flash is unstable
[02:52] <rdw200169> popcornPanic, then it should work automatically
[02:52] <phirestalker> Gnea, oh so THAT's why windows is so slow :P lol
[02:52] <WebcamWonder> kao: Correction, flash was* unstable. It is much better with 10.0
[02:52] <Gnea> phirestalker: it's one of the reasons ;)
[02:52] <kao> WbcamWonder:I have never had this problem when I used to use Dapper Drake.
[02:52] <Gun_Smoke> !grub > Trenter
[02:53] <nathanhelp> I redvamp128, I can't see ntfsconfig or ntfs-3g in the synaptic package manager...
[02:53] <nomasteryoda> nathanhelp, the issue is your root (/) contains the files you are using... and gparted won't let you resize that partition without it running from another partition ... aka ram or a live cd
[02:53] <Trenter> I've read that Gun_Smoke, it dont help me
[02:53] <redvamp128> nathan -- enable restricted
[02:53] <kao> WebcamWonder: Do you have any idea of how I can fix this?
[02:53] <WebcamWonder> kao: What are you running right now?
[02:53] <JesperHansen> How would I investigate this: I have the Ultra Low Voltage Intel Pentium M processor 900 MHz, and its speedstepping 600, 800 and 900 MHz. Only problem is. It doesn't speedstep. The code is in arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.c
[02:53] <kao> WebcamWonder:Hardy Heron
[02:53] <WebcamWonder> !flash | kao
[02:53] <Trenter> I have absolutly no idea what partition it is, I just wanna restore my old grub boot menu!
[02:53] <redvamp128> nathan -- in the search type ntfs
[02:53] <WebcamWonder> kao: I doubt those would be helpful to you
[02:54] <nathanhelp> redvamp128: Done that.
[02:54] <Gun_Smoke> Trenter, well that's isn't going to help much..
[02:54] <nathanhelp> redvamp128: ntfsprogs?
[02:54] <boushley_> connect freenode
[02:54] <EcheloCross> "BlueEagle, so users need to be in the same group as a file to access the file?" (c) mrpinky
[02:54] <JohnWittle> how do I change what desktop manager my system boots up? It is using slim right now, I want it to go back to gdm.
[02:54] <Trenter> How do I find it?  Isnt there a partition manager that can tell me where it is?
[02:54] <WebcamWonder> kao: Flash 10.0 is much stable as compared to 9.0, and hence doesn't crash at all. I haven't had a crash in months
[02:54] <boushley_> \connect freenode
[02:54] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  8.10 or 8.04.2?
[02:54] <Gun_Smoke> Trenter, positive it's there still?  Possible reformatted?
[02:54] <Wips> rww: I tried envyng, but it just gave me a stupid error: "/usr/bin/envyng: line 6: cd: /usr/share/envy: No such file or directory"
[02:54] <kao> WebcamWonder:I already have flash installed and it seems to only cause problems with more advanced Flash applications
[02:54] <nathanhelp> 8.10
[02:54] <kao> WebcamWonder:How do I know which version I have installed currently?
[02:54] <Trenter> It didn't, I updated the freaking linux kernel and it removed my windows partition from the grub boot menu
[02:55] <Trenter> I didn't ask it to
[02:55] <WebcamWonder> kao: Any flash movie, right click and it should show, About Flash Player 7/8/9/10
[02:55] <Wips> rww: And according to envyng's homepage there's supposed an interface-versjon somewhere in the menu, but I can't find it
[02:55] <Trenter> I updated my ubuntu 8.10 system and its gone
[02:55] <mrpinky> noooooo! i added a line to /etc/sudoers and now i need to remove it, but i get "Sorry, user nbingham is not allowed to execute '/usr/sbin/visudo' as root on nbingham.".... any help? :)
[02:55] <jrib> mrpinky: reboot and select "recovery mode" from the grub menu
[02:55] <kao> WebcamWonder:Firefox Reports FlashPlayer 9
[02:56] <mrpinky> jrib, okay i go try that now, thanks
[02:56] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  Ubuntu -- Package Search Results -- ntfs <http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ntfs&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all>
[02:56] <Trenter> Gun_Smoke I need a partition manager to look at my drive, but i know of none in ubuntu, i need my windows partition back
[02:56] <Takmadeus> Greetings!
[02:56] <wobbly> how I get online with kppp in kubuntu
[02:56] <Takmadeus> Please, please I have a most compromising problem
[02:56] <Takmadeus> installed yesterday's updates but, but...
[02:56] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  and for the ntfs-config -- Ubuntu -- Package Search Results -- ntfs-config <http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ntfs-config&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all>
[02:56] <Meshezabeel> I have a file under /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ called tcp_window_scaling , but when I do a "locate tcp_window_scaling" it doesn't find the file, any ideas why?
[02:56] <zhengjunmeng> ??
[02:57] <Takmadeus> I did a shutdown instead of rebot
[02:57] <kao> WebcamWonder:trying to sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree returns Already Newest Version
[02:57] <Gun_Smoke> Trenter, df -T will tell you what partition your windows install is on.  And then you'll need to read about grub and let it know about it.
[02:57] <Takmadeus> and now I only get a crc error system halt error
[02:57] <nathanhelp> redvamp128: What is FUSE?
[02:57] <zhengjunmeng> ??
[02:57] <WebcamWonder> kao: Flash 10 hasn't been included in the hardy updates, nor it is in the backports from what I can see
[02:57] <thief`> Trenter, are you saying it deleted your winders partition? or you just can't boot to winders now?
[02:57] <redvamp128> !fuse | nathanhelp:
[02:57] <NotSure> what distro to put on my 2nd partition.. I have kubuntu and xp  looking for the difference between kde 4.1 and the new   Is it worth upgrading
[02:58] <WebcamWonder> kao: You would need to manually install 10, which is again not supported on this channel
[02:58] <_2> can someone explain why permission on a users home dir would affect whether ssh public keys work or dont work?
[02:58] <nathanhelp> >.<
[02:58] <Takmadeus> oh, what to do with this crc error - system halt error?
[02:58] <kao> WebcamWonder:Thank you for pointing me in the direction of Flash X. I will google for instructions :P
[02:58] <laughyn1nj4> any thoughts out there on partitioning a laptop's hd for dual boot?  i can't get grub installed and so i'm starting over ... should i partition BEFORE installing anything?  if so, how?
[02:59] <LeeM1> hey guys.. new ubuntu user.. I am trying to install Java but synaptic is taking a reallllllllllllly long time
[02:59] <WebcamWonder> kao: There are tons and tons of pages with their own custom home-brew script to do that :). Best of luck :P
[02:59] <Out_Cold> _2 if someone wants to access your comp using a key that is 'owned' by you, the computer won't allow them to access the file
[02:59] <_2> laughyn1nj4 why can't you get grub installed ?
[02:59] <kao> WebcamWoner: Thank you again :)
[02:59] <Takmadeus> Oh my God..... crc error - system halt!
[02:59] <_2> laughyn1nj4 and have you tried grub2 ?
[02:59] <nathanhelp> !ntfs-3g
[02:59] <NotSure> Is it worth upgrading to...   Is the taskbar fully configurable?  I dont like the 4.1 kde taskbar. I cant move things where I want them.. Can I in 4.2?
[02:59] <laughyn1nj4> i follow the instructions on ubuntu's site, but i get errors and can't continue on to the next step because of said errors
[03:00] <_2> Out_Cold i didn't say $HOME/.ssh or $HOME/.ssh/*  just plain $HOME   which doesn't make sense to me.
[03:00] <Takmadeus> halp!
[03:00] <NotSure> Is anyone using Kubuntu 4.2 here?
[03:01] <WebcamWonder> NotSure: #kubuntu
[03:01] <Barridus> hi all, i notice there is a kernel update.  that's not something i shoult just do all willy-nilly is it?  what should i check/read up on before deciding if i want it?
[03:01] <LeeM1> any ideas why my java download in synaptic is taking so long?
[03:01] <qtwre> Hello all, I have an interesting problem.  When I boot, the ubuntu splash shows and once the bar reaches the end, it goes to a command line login screen.  after typing 'startx' it tell me my filesystem is read-only
[03:02] <zumz> LeeM1: java is big, 50- megs at least
[03:02] <WebcamWonder> Barridus: Unless you have drivers compiled yourself, or something done yourself that makes your programs dependent on the current kernel, it is very rarely the case that a kernel upgrade breaks anything
[03:02] <nathanhelp> I'm scared. The Ubuntu site says to Sudo fdisk -1. But fdisk is a formatter!
[03:02] <LeeM1> but an hour and a half on dsl?
[03:02] <Meshezabeel> Meshezabeel: the reason you can't find your file with the "locate" command is because /etc/updatedb.conf is 'pruning' some of your files. Edit this file and it will work the way you want.
[03:02] <milos_> LeeM1, java is huge and your connection is slow
[03:02] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: sudo fdisk -l, just lists all the partitions
[03:02] <macman> guys .. i want to do a md5 checksum on an iso .. how do i do this ?
[03:02] <nathanhelp> WebcamWonder: So why does it need sudo?
[03:02] <thief`> Trenter,  grub is easy to fix... if that's all you need to do.
[03:02] <WebcamWonder> macman: md5sum /path/to/file
[03:02] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: It needs the sudo permissions to read the partition table off the harddisk
[03:02] <laughyn1nj4> macman ... i think it's md5sum /path/to/iso.iso
[03:03] <webterror> i want to try for ubuntu install like Gentoo Compile.
[03:03] <Barridus> WebcamWonder,  hmm, good point.  i think i'm using wifi drivers (madwifi or something) that i compiled
[03:03] <EcheloCross> "BlueEagle, ah depends on the permissions :) i get it" (c) mrpinky
[03:03] <Gun_Smoke> webterror, why?  just use gentoo then
[03:03] <webterror> howto work in ubuntu?
[03:03] <mrpinky> hey, i was mucking around with "/etc/sudoers" and now every time i try to sudo i get "nbingham is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported."... how to get it back :)
[03:04] <Barridus> can a kernel update be undone?  or is it a total pain in the rear?
[03:04] <laughyn1nj4> mrpinky ... un-toy your sudoers file
[03:04] <bruwstout> lkj
[03:04] <mrpinky> laughyn1nj4, i added one line at the end, then removed the same line so it should be un-toyed. however i removed the line using nano not visudo.. should that affect it?
[03:04] <WebcamWonder> Barridus: Your current kernel is untouched (for the most part). You can actually choose to go back to a previous kernel from grub. But I would advice to do some reading on kernel modules, and upgrade before doing so
[03:05] <Gun_Smoke> mrpinky, man sudoers
[03:05] <qtwre> can anyone think of why my filesystem is suddenly read-only, causing ubuntu to fail to boot?
[03:05] <Steven_M> hi all
[03:05] <webterror> no~ i don't like install from ubuntu install CD
[03:05] <laughyn1nj4> hmm .. not sure if su or sudo had a daemon or not ... if so restarting may help
[03:05] <enao1290> is there a command similar to ls -l that lists file sizes?
[03:05] <laughyn1nj4> ls -h
[03:05] <WebcamWonder> enao1290: ls -s :)
[03:05] <nathanhelp> What about ubuntu writing to Fat32? is that stable as well?
[03:05] <mrpinky> Gun_Smoke, okay :)
[03:06] <Barridus> WebcamWonder, solid advice.  i have no idea where to start.  this is my first (potential) kernel update since i installed and caught up to the updates
[03:06] <laughyn1nj4> any thoughts our there on partitioning for dual boot?
[03:06] <_2> laughyn1nj4 ah, fairly new to linux are you?   anyway to answer your origenal question.   i would suggest giving M$ the first primary partition, and size adaquite space for the os and any needed data ntfs. then give linux the next, whether primary or extended doesn't matter, with enough space for the system and a little slack (7g maybe) ext3, then the next partition for your user data and configs (mountpoint = /home) ext3, and maybe
[03:06] <WebcamWonder> Barridus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel
[03:08] <WebcamWonder> Barridus: To be fair, I have to recompile my nVidia drivers on every kernel upgrade. And during the recompiling process, my X (gui) cannot start because the kernel modules are built against an old one :)
[03:08] <Steven_M> everytime I try to apt-get update I get this result. http://pastebin.com/d148bd853
[03:08] <laughyn1nj4> yea the whole mounting of partitions thing is a bit mysterious for me.  why would one mmount an entire partition to the /home dir anyway?
[03:08] <nathanhelp> >.< why does moving to Ubuntu require me to become a programmer? i dont understand half the things I read.
[03:09] <LeeM1> it's fun learning :D this is my 3rd hour on ubuntu lol
[03:09] <Out_Cold> if i am required to add a <output file> to a command, how do i make it just apear as STDOUT?
[03:09] <laughyn1nj4> natanhelp: i'm a programmer and i'm getting somewhere with linux...but not very fast.  :-D
[03:09] <_2> nathanhelp why does installing M$ windows require you to accept the EULA you don't understand those things either
[03:09] <LeeM1> still kinda ticked that my downloads are so slow in syntapic tho
[03:09] <milos_> nathanhelp, for example
[03:09] <nathanhelp> laughyn1nj4: I'm not a programmer and I am getting a headache. _2 Who reads teh EULA?
[03:09] <rodolfo> hey! does anybodu here uses avant-windw-navigator?
[03:09] <thief`> laughyn1nj4, it is a good idea to mount /home to a diff partition - though yo udont have to.
[03:09] <milos_> nathanhelp, i'm programer :)
[03:09] <bruwstout> nathanhelp and laughynj4:  It will grow on you
[03:10] <therootest> hello. Can someone help me install the compiz cube in kubuntu 8.0.4?
[03:10] <nathanhelp> I hope so.
[03:10] <bruwstout> and allow you to be more in tune with the OS
[03:10] <thief`> nathanhelp, i know what you mean, but it's a learning process... keep at it.
[03:10] <laughyn1nj4> bruwstout ... it's growing !
[03:10] <rodolfo> i can't kill the gnome-panel is there any option in AWN that does the job?
[03:10] <_2> nathanhelp if you don't then you are a liar  because clicking the "i accept" button says you did read and understand and accept it.
[03:10] <laughyn1nj4> why is mounting a seprate partition to /home such a great idea?
[03:10] <LeeM1> i work for a small it company.. learning some linux for my role.. that and my xp crapped out and I didn't want to deal with it any more
[03:10] <thief`> i've spent three hours now trying to install vmware... - my kernel is a bitch.
[03:10] <WebcamWonder> laughyn1nj4: Keeps your data safe/intact over OS re-installs
[03:10] <orbstra> hey can ubuntu mount osx formated partitions
[03:10] <laughyn1nj4> it's the WHY i'm after, i've heard enough of the WHAT
[03:10] <bruwstout> I'm in the same boat ... almost need my engineering background to keep up
[03:10] <MethinX> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:10] <nathanhelp> _2 yup. I'm a lier. Actually I'm not. I read that im not allowed to revers engineer it then my eyes glazed over.
[03:10] <_2> laughyn1nj4 because you can reinstall without loosing data
[03:10] <thief`> rodolfo, there is a cmd to kill the gnome panels
[03:11] <On0bi_> does ubuntu work on laptops?
[03:11] <WebcamWonder> On0bi_: Yes
[03:11] <thief`> laughyn1nj4, it's mainly to keep it apart, it's from the old days really... it's not need if yo have a huge HD
[03:11] <laughyn1nj4> this assumes that all data is under /home.
[03:11] <hobo> Quick question: Has anyone tried or knows how to get emerald working a virtual machine?
[03:11] <rodolfo> and what is this command?
[03:11] <bruwstout> ubuntu works great on laptops
[03:11] <On0bi_> WebcamWonder: well? or is it unstable?
[03:11] <thief`> laughyn1nj4, it's from when you might have had home on one hd and the other sys files on a diff hd.
[03:11] <_2> laughyn1nj4 most of it will be
[03:11] <laughyn1nj4> some of my data (multimedia actually) is in my samba shares which are not under home
[03:11] <nathanhelp> _2 I would say that 99% of MS users are liars according to your statement :D
[03:11] <laughyn1nj4> actuall MOST of the data is in the samba shares
[03:12] <thief`> orbstra, yes, it can read osx.
[03:12] <_2> nathanhelp i agree
[03:12] <RedSox> is there anybody here who can give some step-by-step tips to install compiz cube?
[03:12] <Barridus> WebcamWonder, i have an intel graphics board.  and to be honest, i have no idea how the drivers work.  they just did on install.  nothing is listed in "hardware drivers", but opengl works
[03:12] <WebcamWonder> On0bi_: Working well for many many people. Although there are specific models where hibernate and all power features don't work, so you should google your model number to see how much it is supported
[03:12] <_2> nathanhelp i was an M$ user until i actually read an EULA
[03:12] <laughyn1nj4> so perhaps my samba shares should be on a separate partition.  NOW i get it ! ;-)
[03:12] <mrpinky> hey, i executed "usermod -G admin nbingham" to add myself to the "admin" group, but 1) it seems to have removed all my other groups, and 2) after i reboot it reverted my membership to what it was before i executed the command :( any tips?
[03:12] <RedSox> is there anybody here who can give some step-by-step tips to install compiz cube?
[03:12] <thief`> laughyn1nj4, all your 'my docs' is under /home
[03:12] <bruwstout> install compizconfig-setting-manager
[03:12] <bruwstout> then open and go into options
[03:12] <RedSox> bruwstout was that for me?
[03:12] <_2> laughyn1nj4 so you asked for suggestions, i gave you one.
[03:12] <thief`> and if in nautilus, you hit ctrl-h you'll see hidden files. it's rally just like yer my docs in winders
[03:13] <orbstra> so if I connect my osx formated external HD to my ubuntu server... can I access it with the regular mount command?? I am connecting to my server wtih CLI through ssh
[03:13] <rodolfo> thief` and what is this command?
[03:13] <Barridus> WebcamWonder, i did work with a nvidia board previously, and my experiences then matched yours
[03:13] <WebcamWonder> Barridus: Intel drivers are nice, they work. They aren't a proprietary blob like nVidia. You won't loose them over kernel upgrades :)
[03:13] <redvamp128> RedSox:  try this site Forlong's Blog - I'm trying to comprehend the things I write <http://forlong.blogage.de/en>
[03:13] <suci_ANA_riskian> haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[03:13] <bruwstout> yes
[03:13] <LeeM1> i've beel looking.. can you turn on and off showing when people log in and out?
[03:13] <laughyn1nj4> _2 .. much appreciated.!
[03:13] <redvamp128> RedSox:  That site at the bottom has a link to a guide on how to configure the cube and how to work compiz
[03:13] <nathanhelp> redvamp128, BlueEagle, Whats the difference between Using Samba, and ntfs-3g? Can I not just use Samba to access the shared folders on Windows? or am I mis-connecting things?
[03:13] <lstarnes> LeeM1: some clients can do that
[03:13] <thief`> orbstra, taht i don't know. but i know it can read osx format. or you can  get a fs that can easily.
[03:13] <RedSox> redvamp128 thnx a lot brother
[03:13] <LeeM1> im using pidgin
[03:14] <lstarnes> LeeM1: as far as I know, pidgin can't
[03:14] <Giraffe> hey, i'm trying to get wireless working on a laptop with an ar242x atheros chipset...networkmanager doesn't let me connect (the connect button is greyed out) and wicd just won't connect.  what gives?
[03:14] <LeeM1> rawr :(
[03:14] <orbstra> thief` : fs?
[03:14] <thief`> filesystem
[03:14] <WebcamWonder> LeeM1: I think there was a plugin to do that, but I don't remember. #pidgin would be a better source
[03:14] <nathanhelp> LeeM1: You can in WinXP pidgin. but im not sure where in Ubuntu
[03:14] <thief`> like one called ntfs-g that reads windows.
[03:14] <thief`> there'd be one for mac - if it's needed.
[03:14] <orbstra> oh i got ya thief`
[03:14] <orbstra> thnx bud
[03:14] <redvamp128> RedSox:  It is almost at the middle of the page about configure compiz-- but a good guide as well as some good links --
[03:15] <thief`> i've been using linux since november - and look at what i know now?
[03:15] <RedSox> ok redvamp128 tysm
[03:15] <thief`> haha
[03:15] <thief`> see, you can learn.
[03:15] <thief`> a lot of reading - that's what's needed.
[03:15] <Gustavo_G_> I need to install the lzo2 development library. Any suggestions?
[03:15] <thief`> and time.