[03:30] <caden> hello, does anybody know how to add a screensaver?
[04:01] <caden> again anybody know how to add new screensaver?


[05:46] <pavlushka> Goodmorning everyone!
[06:24] <pavlushka> o/ all
[06:24] <pavlushka> o/ Ekushey
[09:46] <Ekushey> Hello Kilos :)
[10:09] <Kilos> hi Ekushey and others
[10:10] <Kilos> sorry i took so long to answer, was outside checking on sheep
[10:11] <Ekushey> Sheep?
[10:11] <Ekushey> You have a farm?
[10:11] <Kilos> my sister has a small holding
[10:11] <Ekushey> How many sheeps?
[10:12] <Kilos> we only have a few but we let ours and the neighbours all walk together so total maybe 20
[10:12] <Kilos> and i look after them
[10:13] <Ekushey> Nice :)
[10:14] <Kilos> yes good life
[10:14] <Kilos> i dont like city life much
[10:49] <Ekushey> Got you, Kilos :)
[10:49] <Kilos> :D
[10:50] <Ekushey> I'm not feeling too good for the last few days
[10:50] <Ekushey> Feeling feverish all the time
[10:50] <Kilos> flu?
[10:51] <Ekushey> And feeling weak too
[10:51] <Kilos> have you seen a doctor
[10:51] <Ekushey> Not yet...
[10:51] <Kilos> i ty avoid them but at times its wise
[10:51] <Ekushey> I don't like going to docs :(
[10:51] <Kilos> hehe who does
[10:52] <Ekushey> Let me try getting some sleep
[10:52] <Ekushey> Will talk later Kilos
[10:52] <Kilos> ok rest well
[10:52] <Ekushey> Take care...
[10:52] <Ekushey> Thanks...
[10:52] <Kilos> do you have aspirin Ekushey
[10:53] <Ekushey> Yes
[10:54] <Ekushey> Also Paracetamol
[10:54] <Kilos> take a couple and has hot tea or coffee then sleep under blankets
[10:54] <Kilos> and try sweat it out
[10:54] <Kilos> aspirin is good for breakinf fever
[10:55] <Ekushey> Let me try it out
[10:55] <Ekushey> Thanks
[10:55] <Kilos> hope you get well soon
[16:12] <pavlushka> Hello every one!
[16:12] <Kilos> hi pavlushka
[16:12] <pavlushka> Ekushey o/
[16:16] <pavlushka> 100 km away from  home
[16:17] <Kilos> whew
[16:18] <pavlushka> On a phone
[16:22] <pavlushka> So, how are you?
[16:36] <Ekushey> Hey Kilos
[16:37] <Ekushey> Are you on Twitter?
[16:37] <Kilos> yessir but i rarely go there
[16:39] <Ekushey> Same here :P
[16:39] <Kilos> im an irc person
[16:40] <Kilos> how you feeling now?
[16:43] <Ekushey> Much better :)
[16:44] <Ekushey> Where are you travelling to, pavlushka?
[16:45] <Kilos> Ekushey you can even take 4 asprin if necessary to break a fever
[16:45] <Kilos> haha we use to give sheep a handful at times dpending on temp
[16:45] <Ekushey> I never took more than 2 at once... didn't knew that
[16:46] <Ekushey> It works on sheeps too?
[16:46] <Ekushey> I though they need special vet medicines
[16:46] <Kilos> yes breaks fever in a few hours
[16:46] <Kilos> animal meds are same as ours but with another name
[16:46] <Kilos> 'ingredients are the same
[16:47] <Ekushey> I use Aspirin for headaches, and Paracetamol for fever
[16:47] <Ekushey> Ah, didn't knew that
[16:47] <Kilos> wb pavlushka
[16:48] <Kilos> when you have to look after 2500 merino sheep or 700 bonsmara and limousine cattle you learn lots about meds
[16:49] <Kilos> oh and 80 jersey milk cows
[16:49] <Ekushey> :D
[16:49] <Kilos> lol
[16:51] <pavlushka> Ekushey,  Dinajpur
[16:51] <Kilos> at least we beat afganistan
[16:54] <pavlushka> Ekushey,  i was a bit away even from the phone,  lol
[16:58] <pavlushka> And Kilos,  that's a lot about sheep.
[16:58] <Kilos> i used to be a farm manager for rich people
[16:58] <Kilos> now here we have 3
[16:59] <pavlushka> What,  sheep?
[16:59] <pavlushka> Or us?
[16:59] <Kilos> i used to have 54 of my own sheep and 6 milk cows and 7 horses
[17:00] <Kilos> when i damaged head i sld everything
[17:00] <Kilos> was almost a cabage for a year
[17:01] <Kilos> couldnt walk on my own or remember very mich
[17:01] <Kilos> now im good again
[17:02] <Ekushey> Oops, accident?
[17:02] <pavlushka> That's a relief  to hear
[17:02] <Kilos> yes ssplit my head from above left eye to behind left ear and then across to right ear
[17:03] <Kilos> visited the happy hunting grounds and was sent back to come learn ubuntu
[17:03] <Kilos> hehe
[17:04] <Ekushey> Damn
[17:04] <pavlushka> Sorry Kilos
[17:04] <Kilos> im good now and have lots of new friends
[17:04] <Kilos> all over the world
[17:05] <pavlushka> And I thank lord that I know you
[17:06] <Kilos> ty
[17:06] <Ekushey> How long ago did this happen?
[17:06] <Kilos> i used to be very independant and self sufficient
[17:06] <Kilos> 1998
[17:07] <Kilos> now i know its more important to make friends and help others where i can
[17:07] <Ekushey> :)
[17:08] <Kilos> even when i installed 8.04 i was still very forgetful
[17:08] <pavlushka> :)
[17:08] <Kilos> short term memory was non existant
[17:08] <Kilos> every year it gets better
[17:09] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:10] <pavlushka> Good to hear that, see ya
[17:18] <pavlushka> Night Ekushey,  Night Kilos
[18:01] <Ekushey> Done with eating Kilos?
[18:01] <Kilos> yessir
[18:36] <Kilos> Ekushey are you documenting the work you guys do on facebook  to use when you apply for reverification?
[18:37] <Kilos> and records of the events and release parties you have
[18:38] <Kilos> especially 16.04 i think
[18:38] <Kilos> you guys going all out hey
[18:53] <Kilos> night ll. sleep tight


[04:20] <mup> Bug #1463378 changed: Downloaded di-initrd on trusty/amd64 overrides /etc/network/interfaces <canonical-bootstack> <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1463378>
[14:12] <james> ERROR 2015-09-14 13:53:59,385 maasserver Unable to get RPC connection for cluster 'Cluster master' (master
[14:12] <Guest9421> getting above error while trying to creat the cluster interface
[14:19] <Guest9421> any idea
[14:19] <Guest9421> ?
[14:52] <mup> Bug #1495555 opened: Libvirt should be a dependant package for maas install <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1495555>
[15:10] <mup> Bug #1495555 changed: Libvirt should be a dependant package for maas install <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1495555>
[15:13] <mup> Bug #1495555 opened: Libvirt should be a dependant package for maas install <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1495555>
[17:31] <mup> Bug #1495636 opened: no python3 bindings in package for apiclient <amd64> <apport-bug> <wily> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1495636>
[17:34] <mup> Bug #1495636 changed: no python3 bindings in package for apiclient <amd64> <apport-bug> <wily> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1495636>
[17:49] <mup> Bug #1495636 opened: no python3 bindings in package for apiclient <amd64> <apport-bug> <wily> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1495636>
[22:38] <mup> Bug #1495555 changed: Libvirt should be a dependant package for maas install <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1495555>
[23:29] <mup> Bug #1423592 changed: Only one place to declare the OS for the Machine <MAAS:Opinion> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1423592>


[07:21] <zleap> back
[07:23] <zleap> so 18.04 stops loading at the point where it is loading the user manager for pid 120
[07:24] <zleap> i have no idea how to do all the previously mentioned systemd stuff
[07:54] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:10] <zmoylan-pi> that was a long night... listening to bird song across the world... can't wait for next year...
[10:19] <SuperEngineer> !patience | zmoylan-pi
[10:19] <SuperEngineer> please wait for next year
[10:19] <SuperEngineer> next year may not be online right now
[10:19] <SuperEngineer> :D
[10:21] <SuperEngineer> [I hear next year usually comes online only after new year's eve has gone off line
[11:28] <fujisan> sup popey and ikonia
[14:33] <zleap> just a question on ubuntu not being able to boot, it stops when loading user manager
[14:33] <zleap> as the system is dual boot I can view the file system ubuntu is installed to from my mint install,  what should i look for on the ubuntu file system to try and narrow down (or for people to help me do that) what the issue may be ?
[14:34] <penguin42> hmm what's 'user manager'
[14:35] <zleap> when booting ubuntu,  i can press esc and get messages during boot
[14:35] <zleap> however when it gets to user manager for pid 120 the system just hangs
[14:35] <zleap> oddly the live cd works fine,  it is just post install it has failed
[14:35] <zleap> i can also boot fine with recovery mode
[14:36]  * penguin42 isn't sure what 'user manager' is
[14:36] <zleap> neither am i
[14:37] <zleap> i am just trying to copy the message i get
[14:37] <zleap> however there 'has' to be a log of this somewhere on the file system it is a case of finding  that then copying the info to pastebin or somewhere to help
[14:39] <Guest32919> Hi guys. Just installed ubuntu 18.04 and find that image scan for linux is not identifying my epson printer anymore. It worked fine on earlier versions of ubuntu. Did a bit of googling but no much help. it says sane change has brken soem thrid party scanner drivers on launchpad. Can  some one guide me in the right directions. thanks
[14:39] <Guest32919> zleap,
[14:39] <penguin42> zleap: If you can boot into recovery you can try journalctl -b-1  to get the log of messages from the last boot
[14:40] <zleap> thanks
[14:43] <zleap> is there anything specific i should be lookinng for int eh log
[14:43] <penguin42> the thing that made it break :-)
[14:43] <zleap> ok
[14:45] <zleap> i will give that a go,  brb
[14:50] <Nokaji> That's a point, my 16.04 hasn't performed any upgrade to 18.04 - I guess it is in my settings, somewhere
[14:52] <Nokaji> I have selected: Notify me of a new ubuntu version "for long term support versions"
[14:56] <penguin42> yeh but they don't normally enable lts upgrades until a bit later for stuff to shake out
[15:07] <Nokaji> Ah, okay ... it's not just me then
[15:07] <Nokaji> maybe I can/should wait, then ... hopefully not too long though
[17:32] <zleap> ok back,  i decided to re install 18.04 and still get the same error
[17:32] <zleap> started session c1 of user gdm
[17:32] <zleap> started user manager for uid 120
[17:33] <zleap> after which system stops repondingm but I can reboot with ctrl-alt-sysrq RSEIUB
[17:33] <zleap> so there may be some kernel magic I can use to do something other than reboot the system
[17:39] <penguin42> zleap: Can you ctrl-alt-f2/f3 at that point to get a text console ?
[17:43] <zleap> i will try later, i need to reboot for that
[17:44] <zleap> i am sure I ahve tried and it failed but if I manage that, i will see if I can log in
[17:45] <penguin42> zleap: My guess would be that it's a graphics driver choking when it tries to start up the graphics
[17:45] <zleap> so why do I get a live session ok
[17:45] <penguin42> yeh, good question
[17:46] <zleap> ill grab a netbook and instal on there,  it will be slow but just to figure out if there is an issue with the install media
[17:47] <zleap> is there a list of key bindings similar to ctrl-alt-sysrq RSEIUB
[17:47] <zleap> not sure exactly what to search for for that
[17:47] <penguin42> not sure; there's two separate things there
[17:48] <penguin42> the alt-sysrq stuff is documented somewhere, but that's quite separate to the virtual console switching
[17:48] <zleap> yeah but if there is a sysrq thing to release the keyboard it may then allow me to use alt-f2 etc if it doesn't work initially
[17:49] <penguin42> note ctrl-alt-f2 or try f3) - you shouldn't need any other keys for that unless it's very very hung
[17:50] <zleap> yeah
[17:52] <zleap> https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-enable-all-sysrq-functions-on-linux#h6-the-sysrq-magic-key
[17:54] <zleap> no idea what that page is doing,  trying to print it and it says it can't print as it page still loading
[17:54] <zleap> i want to just print to pdf for reference
[18:00] <zleap> ok i need to do some reading in
[18:00] <zleap> https://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/sysrq.txt
[18:00] <zleap> to figure out what i am doing with alt-sysrq,  as a few things are not enabled
[18:00] <zleap> i am guessing having 256 in there enables everything
[18:01] <penguin42> zleap: it takes a special value of '1' to enable everything
[18:01] <zleap> ah ok
[18:02] <zleap> right now it is 176  so 128+32+16 debugging dumps, sync reboot power off
[18:02] <zleap> so if I edit https://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/sysrq.txt and use 1 is that safe / recommended
[18:08] <zleap> penguin42: got documentation printed off,  so some light reading for later :D
[18:09] <zleap> back shortly


[03:16] <nhaines> rww, elky: I've had Ubuntu coffee. Actually, I think we used it at the December OCLUG installfest.  It's rich and almost buttery.  Would drink again.
[03:16]  * nhaines thinks there's a little bit of ground coffee left in the bag.  Should drink again.
[03:17]  * ianorlin actually doesn't drink coffee
[03:28] <nhaines> ianorlin: oh, you have to brew it first.
[03:28] <nhaines> Much smoother that way.
[04:26]  * ianorlin knows that
[04:27] <nhaines> I didn't drink coffee until work demanded it.
[04:27] <nhaines> Nothing like fighting sleep while teaching a class at the Screen Actor's Guild.  Turns out you can drink 4 Keurig pods in a 15 minute break.
[04:28] <nhaines> I was terrified that I'd fall asleep during lunch and not be there for the last half of the class haha.
[05:35] <elky> nhaines: i'll have to try it some time
[05:37] <nhaines> elky: and if you don't like it, just bring it to a LUG meeting!  :D
[06:11]  * ianorlin unfortanely was not at December installfest


[00:01] <roasted> darkxst: looks like someone already reported it - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709853
[00:18] <bjsnider> roasted, told you it would be faster
[00:20] <roasted> bjsnider: indeed.  It's ATI/AMD that I want to burn ever so badly./
[01:22] <bjsnider> roasted, what bug is this now?
[01:23] <roasted> bjsnider: you know when you get a new message, it pops up in the center?
[01:23] <roasted> then if you ignore it, it disappears?
[01:24] <roasted> after that, bring up the message tray and click on the icon for that user that sent you a message
[01:24] <roasted> the text box does not grab focus
[01:24] <roasted> so you must manually click via mouse to give that text box focus to type
[01:24] <bjsnider> what does that have to do with frame rates?
[01:24] <roasted> frame rate?
[01:24] <roasted> where did I mention frame rate?
[01:25] <bjsnider> but there was some sort of 24.384923923 fps bug I kept reading about with this gen hardware
[01:25] <roasted> ohhhhhh
[01:25] <roasted> in the original generation of sandy bridge or ivy bridge or something like that
[01:25] <roasted> there was some sort of fps issue with intel IGP's
[01:25] <roasted> http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2198726
[01:26] <roasted> 23.976 Hz that is
[01:26] <roasted> not fps
[01:26] <roasted> sorry my mind is in FPS alley tonight. Two people broke into my vehicles last night and I caught them on video surveillance, so I'm kind of mixed up right now as I talk to police.
[01:27] <bjsnider> what's there to talk about. the video should do the talking
[01:27] <bjsnider> btw, never keep anything of value in your car
[01:27] <roasted> I'm sending the cop 4 feeds, because I have some from different cameras in different angles
[01:27] <roasted> and my cams are dual stream. 1 fps 247 feed and 10 fps motion detect feed.
[01:27] <roasted> I was just trying to explain it to him in email so it wasn't confusing
[01:28] <roasted> and nothing of ours was stolen. It's just the fact that someone was in my stuff that enrages me.
[01:29] <roasted> should have had it locked but, whatever.
[01:29] <roasted> just bummed I didn't happen to be letting my dog out for a leak when I stumbled across those two upstanding gentlemen rummaging through my cars
[01:33] <bjsnider> maybe you could install a feature where if anyone but you touches the car it explodes
[01:33] <roasted> LOL
[01:33] <bjsnider> and not a trivial explosion, but something that would destroy 10 sqaure blocks
[01:34] <roasted> ...which would include my sleeping quarters
[01:34] <bjsnider> and make the area uninhabitable for 10 million years
[01:34] <bjsnider> there's a small chance that could be overkill
[01:35] <roasted> so basically, touch my crappycarthatshardlyworth500bucks and BAM chernobyl in Lancaster PA.
[01:35] <roasted> I like it
[01:36] <bjsnider> well, like r'as al ghul says in batman begins, crime cannot be tolerated
[07:35] <darkxst> ricotz, wip/js24 is rebased on master today, just js24 patches remaining
[07:38] <Feef> So hey
[07:38] <Feef> Question
[07:39] <Feef> Anyone able to help me with openvpn
[07:49] <darkxst> Feef, thats not really gnome related
[07:49] <darkxst> you might get more help in #ubuntu or similar
[08:04] <ricotz> darkxst, nice
[08:05] <ricotz> darkxst, i guess you should push wip/js24 branch for gnome-shell too
[08:06] <ricotz> darkxst, i think there was a conversion of a xml snippet missing, in the screenshield code irc
[08:06] <darkxst> ricotz, shell patches are here https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711052
[08:07] <ricotz> alright
[08:08] <darkxst> ricotz, in the e4x removal patches on master?
[08:09] <ricotz> darkxst, it is fine, that is the one i meant https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/diff/js/gdm/oVirt.js?id=b908a3d70af279caad71a7ad87a301621b08271f
[08:22] <ricotz> darkxst, will try to do some snapshots in the evening
[11:50] <ricotz> darkxst, great! looks like mozjs24-enabled 3.11-packages built and work as expected :)
[13:45] <TwistedMinds> Heya everyone. It,s been a while since I touched linux in any way.  Do you guys think it will go well if I add gnome-next/staging to try gnome 3.10 on ubuntu-gnome 13.10? ;)
[13:48] <TwistedMinds> I'm just a bit afraid since I'm not used to Ubuntu at all, used gentoo and slackware years ago (before gnome 3, early gnome 1) so I'm quite lost heh
[13:57] <TwistedMinds> I guess we'll see. Anyway great job to anyone working on this. It's way more user friendly than before. Gnome seems to have lost lots of options but it probably just moved somewhere else, I'll find what I need. Still X is a pain to configure if it doesn't autodetect correctly
[14:42] <roasted> What package would I file the bug against for brightness keys working in 3.8 but not 3.10? fyi brightness adjustment works fine via slider in the drop down menu in upper right corner, and other Fn keys (multimedia etc) work fine as well.
[16:26] <roasted> ricotz: question for you if you don't mind... Plank on eOS has a GUI to edit its settings. On other distros, such as Ubuntu GNOME, it does not. Are there any plans to add a GUI for non-eOS distros by chance?
[16:32] <ricotz> roasted, plank has no settings-gui at all, and is not suppose to get one, sorry
[16:32] <roasted> :(
[16:32] <roasted> plank with no settings or a monofied docky...
[17:23] <swiss> so does the trackpad-deactivation-while-typing actually work for anyone else?
[17:23] <swiss> it makes my cursor immediately disappear but it can still move while i'm typinig
[18:58] <gnoob1> hey kindly ubuntu gnome people... looking for some installation help, anyone?
[18:58] <gnoob1> (having bootloader trouble)
[18:59] <gnoob1> hey noskcaj
[18:59] <gnoob1> any chance you can help with a quick bootloader issue?
[19:00] <Noskcaj> gnoob1, I can try
[19:00] <gnoob1> thank you
[19:00] <gnoob1> so basically here is the deal:
[19:00] <gnoob1> I stepped through the 13.10 installer
[19:00] <gnoob1> my first time installing
[19:01] <gnoob1> resized the ntfs partition on my ssd, made a new one (ext4) mounted as /
[19:01] <gnoob1> mounted the other existing partitions as ntfs in different names
[19:01] <gnoob1> didn't allocate swap becasue I have 32gigs of ram
[19:01] <gnoob1> installer continued, all nice and fine
[19:01] <gnoob1> no errors, completed successfully
[19:01] <gnoob1> I reboot the computer... aaaaand nothing
[19:01] <gnoob1> Win8 comes up, just like that
[19:01] <gnoob1> no boot menu
[19:01] <gnoob1> and now I don't know what to do
[19:02] <gnoob1> I am not sure what I did wrong, and I want to fix it without having to reinstall again (because ubuntu is right there)
[19:05] <gnoob1> any idea?
[19:07] <bjsnider> try holding shift before boot
[19:07] <bjsnider> maybe grub selected windows as the default
[19:07] <bjsnider> but it sounds like no grub install is the issue
[19:07] <gnoob1> yeah exactly
[19:07] <gnoob1> that's what I think
[19:08] <gnoob1> I don't know how to install just grub and make it use the stuff I already have (Win8 + Ubuntu)
[19:09] <bjsnider> a real grub expert might be able to do it, but otherwise i suspect you'd just install a bootloader with nothing to boot
[19:09] <bjsnider> so you'd also ruin windows
[19:10] <gnoob1> definitely not something I would like to do...
[19:10] <gnoob1> I don't mind running through the Ubuntu Gnome installer again if needed, I am just not sure what to choose
[19:10] <bjsnider> maybe there's a grub channel. i doubt it has anything to do with gnome or this channel specifically
[19:10] <gnoob1> the question that's relevant to this channel:
[19:10] <bjsnider> windows has the startup repair recovery process though
[19:11] <gnoob1> with the installer, is there a simple way to dualboot Win8 + Ubuntu Gnome:
[19:11] <gnoob1> ?
[19:11] <gnoob1> or should I go Unity?
[19:11] <bjsnider> it's the same grub
[19:11] <gnoob1> right, but the Unity installer has a nice step for configuring dualboot
[19:11] <bjsnider> 6 of one half dozen of the other
[19:11] <gnoob1> which the Gnome one doesn't
[19:12] <bjsnider> it's a kernel that's being booted
[19:12] <bjsnider> you can install gnome afterwards
[19:12] <bjsnider> you just use the metapackage
[19:12] <bjsnider> if you're more confident in the ubuntu installer
[19:12] <gnoob1> metapackage?
[19:13] <bjsnider> an empty package that pulls in a lot of other packages
[19:13] <bjsnider> like ubuntu-desktop pulls in unity
[19:13] <gnoob1> ah, I see. Okay, thank you - that helps. Will go try my luck then!
[19:13] <bjsnider> and guess what ubuntu-gnome-desktop does?
[19:13] <TwistedMinds> I just ran the ubuntu gnome 13.10 installer and grub installed/configured itself correctly. Maybe it needs a separate /boot partition to install correctly? Just thinking I'm so outdated on linux
[20:46] <njalk> what would be minimum system requirements for ubuntu gnome?
[20:47] <darkxst> ricotz, :) btw shell patches are in master now
[20:47] <darkxst> ricotz, also there were a bunch of gjs rdepends affected by the E4X removal, gnome-docs, sushi, gnome-maps and a couple of others
[21:30] <ricotz> darkxst, great :)


[00:24] <smoser> blackboxsw: nice. i was just about to do that... came in to just go ahead and do an upload
[14:57] <smoser> blackboxsw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RfPQ3MDVH7/ ? for review-mps ?
[14:57] <smoser> i could not figure out how to '--skip' more stuff...
[14:58] <smoser> and --dry-run doesn't work so well because it dry-runs everything (even necessary read-only operations)
[18:28] <blackboxsw> smoser, I'm adding an alias, dryrun == skip(bugs,publish,test)... only validate/lint the branch and print errors locally (no remote changes)
[18:29] <smoser> sounds good.
[18:29] <blackboxsw> I should've changed dryrun when introducing skip bugs, publish, test ... just didn't get around to it
[19:08] <robjo> smoser: https://code.launchpad.net/~rjschwei/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/346844  should address parts of lp#1092637
[19:09] <smoser> i think you typod that number
[19:09] <smoser> bug 1772961
[19:09] <smoser> ?
[19:16] <robjo> too many bugs in my Inbox :( , yes cut and paste error
[19:35] <smoser> robjo: it looks like you still need the 4 changes in https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+ref/fix/1772961-suse-spec-fixes
[19:35] <smoser> and then we get to
[19:35] <smoser>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gZpTmTW3jN/
[19:39] <smoser> robjo: thanks for looking at that.
[19:40] <robjo> smoser: my changes were only to address the "missing files" issue, i.e. addition to what you had already done
[19:40] <smoser> ah. ok. well, just grab my commits too and take over that branch.
[19:40] <smoser> if you'd like i can quickly give you access to an instance that you can use 'run-container' from.
[19:43] <robjo> sorry still poking around while keeping an eye on the last of the Specter v4 image publishing
[20:24] <blackboxsw> ok so changes that we landed in cloud-init for salt support freebsd changed the way /etc/salt/pki minion certs are created. Docs (https://docs.saltstack.com/en/2017.7/ref/configuration/minion.html#pki-dir)  still claim that the minion certs should live under /etc/salt/pki/minion  path, but cloud-init now checks isdir(/etc/salt/pki/minion )  and opts to use just /etc/salt/pki if minion subdir isn't present. This breaks
[20:24] <blackboxsw> on ubuntu as those invalid certs in /etc/salt/pki/* are deleted. But, apparently that is intended behavior on FreeBSD. I need to find out why these files are being removed by a 'system salt-minion restart' on bionic++
[20:26]  * blackboxsw is trying to resolve https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1769754