[18:56] <ActionParsnip> fhspenom3: did you add the window list item to the panel?
[18:56] <fhspenom3> YES
[18:56] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: it just depends what you're working on
[18:56] <allquixotic> ActionParsnip: doing it for the purposes of learning is a very different activity from doing it in order to "get stuff done". Academic purposes is implicitly excluded in any discussion about what's done in industry.
[18:56] <marcus> YO, anyone know (plz?) how to load VSTs in LMMS? "Cannot load library /usr/lib/lmms: (/usr/lib/lmms/: cannot read file data: Is a directory)"
[18:57] <ubuntu_mint> Machine code by hand? Would take huge amounts of paper and time. Writing 8 bits for study purposes is all we ever do in uni.
[18:57] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: something like 75% of the software I develop is written in assembler, and at that I end up working in straight machine code a lot of the time because it's just easier
[18:57] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: your life depends on some of that software
[18:57] <fhspenom3> window list removed. Panel minimized right now. thanks ActionParsnip  :*
[18:57] <fhspenom3> <3
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> fhspenom3: well thats arse-about-face but if it works who cares :)
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> fhspenom3: glad you got the gold
[18:58] <marcus> grrrrrrrrrrrrrr i never get help here:{
[18:58] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: Wow, OK. Embedded devices with no RAM and such? RTOS? Even for that kind of environment I'd think an assembler would be "just easier" than hand-coding it.
[18:58] <fhspenom3> :) i'm megginer in xfce, early use only kde
[18:58] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: have you ever seen The Matrix?
[18:58] <unityman> ubuntu_mint: agreed ,but glibc and gcc both support kernel and both are using C and C+ language.. So look to see how much is written in kernel and get understanding for explots
[18:59] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: That's called fiction.
[18:59] <unityman> ubuntu_mint: gcc 4.7 supports new code for memory buffer to support graphics in Unity..
[19:00] <piero> why my gimp works very well alone, without the unity desktop environment, just with metacity window manager and is very, VERY slow when running on unity?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> unityman: is it also useful to those that don't run Unity?
[19:00] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: you know the bit where Cypher is explaining the Matrix to Neo?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> piero: maybe compiz is causing issues
[19:01] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: the bit where he says you don't even see the symbols any more, just blonde, brunette, redhead
[19:01] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: yeah, machine code gets like that
[19:02] <unityman> ActionParsnip: Agreed most of the 3d graphics in Gnome3, Cinnamon, Mate and Unity so one is no more responsible then the other GUI..
[19:02] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: although I agree assembler is far more common than writing stuff in raw machine code
[19:02] <Passwordproblem> actionparsnip what you mean with unstick wilee-nilee it didnt let me choose a '123' password so i just clicked disable it
[19:02] <Gorroth> h
[19:02] <Gorroth> hi
[19:02] <Gorroth> i just installed ubuntu 12.10, and the install went fine.  however, upon reboot, the monitors go into power saving mode after the BIOS POST and never resume
[19:03] <Gorroth> i have a radeon 5750 and 5770 in the machine, one for each monitor
[19:03] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: I would think that nobody in serious industry pursuits is writing machine code, unless it's just a few instructions during early tests of extremely early silicon, or in a silicon emulator... even during the very early stages of the manufacturing process of new chips...
[19:03] <piero> ActionParsnip, can I shut off all this beauty affects and get a system that just works ???
[19:03] <compaqo> i installed 12.04 on a Compaq Presario 061 and can not shutdown my PC. I mean if i click on System - Shutdown  the PC does not power off. I encounter the same problem if  as root i execute : shutdown -h now . In those two scenarios, the system halts but does not power off so i have to press the power button on the PC to shut it down. Can anyone help me?
[19:03] <fhspenom3> piero, try delete /temp
[19:03] <Gorroth> anyone else experiencing anything like this?  i also haven't installed the proprietary drivers yet... this is a fresh install
[19:03] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: and once you have a chip actually working and a stable ISA, it just seems like a big waste of time to write machine code instead of assembler. Just like it'd be a waste of time to write Ubuntu applications in assembler.
[19:04] <fhspenom3> Gorroth, you dont need drivers, in my case works all smooth
[19:04] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: oh, so you don't use media players?
[19:04] <Gorroth> my question is not about whether i need drivers
[19:04] <Gorroth> it's about the monitors going into power save after BIOS POST and not ocming back
[19:04] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: I've *written* media players. In C, Vala, Java, C#, that kind of thing. Media players don't use machine code. The closest you get is a few assembler routines here and there for inner loops in the sound processing pipeline, but media player applications themselves don't even handle that part.
[19:04] <fhspenom3> question: witch version of wine is best?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> piero: you can disable effects, it may help. You can turn them off in ccsm
[19:05] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: you know that huge chunks of the codec libraries are written in assembler, right?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Gorroth: what video chip do you use?
[19:05] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: it's increasingly important as we move to low-power chips like the various ARM devices
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> fhspenom3: it depends on the apps you run. there isn't a single best anything
[19:05] <Gorroth> ActionParsnip: radeon 5750 and 5770
[19:05] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: for various reasons you can no longer expect to just throw CPU horsepower at the problem
[19:05] <Gorroth> one monitor on the 5750 and one on the 5770
[19:05] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: Yes, yes, I know, the codec libraries -- but saying "media players" means really media players. Find me a line of assembler or machine code in the Rhythmbox or Banshee sources. Maybe in libvorbis, or libsamplerate... but not in the actual *application*.
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Gorroth: try the boot option:   nomodeset
[19:06] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: right
[19:06] <Gorroth> ActionParsnip: okay, i can try that
[19:06] <Gorroth> ActionParsnip: when i get home... oh, but how do i get myself into grub?  it likes to just boot up without showing a grub menu
[19:06] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: because there's no point sawing the handle off your toothbrush, if your rucksack frame is made of lead
[19:06] <fhspenom3> ActionParsnip, i just want to run photoshop cs4 and got some errors and program iminetly shut down :/
[19:07] <bjrohan> My sound was playing just fine on my Ubuntu 12.10 laptop. I was having issues with the installed ffmpeg from repo, so I uninstalled them, then reinstalled via commandline here:https://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/wiki/UbuntuCompilationGuide Now my audio playback is garbled, any ideas why?
[19:07] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: still, with low-power devices like mobile phones and media players it's actually becoming more important to at least understand what your high-level code compiles to
[19:07] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: Gotta keep your terminology straight. Talk about the correct level of abstraction. It's blatantly obvious to everyone that software is built as a layered "stack" and that the things at the lower levels are... well, written in lower level languages. As I said, right tool for the right job. But when you say "media players", you mean Rhythmbox, not ffmpeg.
[19:07] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: got to squeeze every last drop out
[19:07] <LinuxGuy91> Kids, i made this new song using the latest release of Ubuntu Studio, thoughts? https://bitly.com/SPRHBO
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy91: try in #ubuntu-offtopic please, this is support only
[19:08] <LinuxGuy91> ActionParsnip word
[19:08] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: Actually, libraries like ORC/liboil (optimized inner loops), combined with smarter compilers, have made it possible to codegen really high quality assembler for certain tight loops that are commonly done in multimedia, without writing assembler.
[19:08] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: we should be in #ubuntu-offtopic too
[19:08] <gordonjcp> LinuxGuy91: not quite to my taste, but sounds good
[19:09] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: What's easier: writing assembler for 12 different processors, or using a compiler with good codegen and writing C code that codegens to efficient inner loops (with hardware SIMD assist where available) without writing a single line of assembler in your codec?
[19:09] <Gorroth> allquixotic: of course, writing in asm for 12 diff procs
[19:09] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: Seems more and more that anything but compilers are learning how to avoid assembler without throwing performance out the window.
[19:09] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: we really ought to take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:10] <allquixotic> Sure, feel free... but I'm going to context switch to another activity now anyhow. TTYL
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: looks like you opened a can of worms
[19:10] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: righto
[19:10] <Gorroth> ActionParsnip: since i can't actually get into my system at the console, how can i get into grub when it's booting up?  since Ubuntu is the only OS installed, it never gives me a chance to modify my grub commandline
[19:10] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: fwiw I'd say it depends on the result you're trying to achieve
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Gorroth: hold SHIFT at boot
[19:11] <Gorroth> ActionParsnip: okay, will do that; thank you
[19:11] <simplew> i see that in cheese the webcam displays a video that is too bright/too much light, isnt there a way to use the windows webcam driver provided the webcam manufacturer in linux?
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> simplew: run:  lsusb    use the 8 character hex ID to find guides and/or bugs
[19:12] <simplew> ActionParsnip: im not understanding
[19:13] <bjrohan> I have garbled audio playback, anyone know where to start to find out why?
[19:13] <simplew> ActionParsnip: if i run lsusb i get too many entries
[19:13] <simplew> ActionParsnip: and i dont know which entry corresponds to webcam
[19:14] <alone> pp
[19:15] <derpsauce> Hello?
[19:15] <ZEROF> derpsauce: Hi
[19:16] <derpsauce> I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 and I was wondering if there was anything I had to know before doing anything; I'm new to Linux
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> simplew: read, one will seem like it, or if there is no text next to it, search for the 8 character hex ID
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> derpsauce: get fully updated
[19:16] <gener1c> hey , how do i set a default program to open a file when its not in the rightclick list?
[19:16] <king313> yes, get updated and, if it runs too slow, change to 12.04
[19:16] <derpsauce> I've done that, but is there any software I need to get?
[19:16] <king313> because 12.10 have some performance issues
[19:17] <graingert_> derpsauce: don't ever install anything not in a repository
[19:17] <king313> derpsauce, it depends on the use that you want to do to the system
[19:17] <derpsauce> I installed the Wubi 12.04 and I couldn't see my cursor.
[19:17] <graingert_> derpsauce: and don't add the debian repositories
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> derpsauce: depends on what the OS is for, you may want to install ubuntu-restricted-extras for lots of codecs (assuming it is legal for you to do so)
[19:18] <bjrohan> Does anyone know why videos online (youtube) the audio is fine, by videos played on my computer are garbled audio?
[19:18] <derpsauce> Again, I have no Linux knowledge. I grew up on Windows.
[19:18] <king313> bjrohan, they have some noise at start?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> derpsauce: use software centre
[19:19] <king313> derpsauce, you will not need a lot of knowledge to use linux
[19:19] <mxo_o> hello
[19:19] <derpsauce> Okay, thanks!
[19:19] <mxo_o> How can I change my keyboard language to finnish?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> king313: well, to use Ubuntu :)
[19:19] <bjrohan> king313:  What do you mean? I think perhaps it is my player, I opened saif local file in my Chrome browser and it played fine
[19:20] <king313> yes, I was thinking about Ubuntu but I wrote Linux
[19:20] <simplew> ActionParsnip: see this http://pastie.org/5128717
[19:20] <simplew> ActionParsnip: how do i know which one coresponds to webcam?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> mxo_o: System> Preferences> Keyboard gets you the keyboard layout GUI.
[19:20] <king313> bjrohan, I wanted to know if they are garbled at beginning or all time
[19:21] <bjrohan> king313:  all the time
[19:21] <bjrohan> I am using dragon player
[19:21] <king313> then it's not the same issue that I had few weeks ago, sorry :(
[19:21] <derpsauce> ActionParsnip: How should I look for software etc. in Ubuntu? I don't know how to install other packages besides the ones offered in the Software Centre.
[19:21] <mxo_o> ActionParsnip it say's it finnish but it's not?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> simplew: its the acer one, if you install guvcview do you see yourself ok?
[19:23] <danon_> king313> use synaptic package manger
[19:23] <king313> derpsauce, if you are beginning, use Software Centre
[19:23] <king313> you can use Synaptic too, like danon_ suggest
[19:23] <simplew> ActionParsnip: its not the acer one
[19:23] <linusasus6> Hi I would like to know wich version of ubuntu you recommend for a Toshiba Satellite A210, 8.04, 10.04, 12.04
[19:24] <king313> but it is not so newbie-friendly
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> derpsauce: run software centre and search for the package name, or in a terminal, run:   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:24] <tontimer> Hi
[19:24] <king313> you can also download packages and install them by double clic
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> linusasus6: 12.04 imho as it is LTS
[19:24] <king313> but, Software Centre is the best option
[19:24] <ThinkT510> linusasus6: 8.04 is only supported on servers until april
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> simplew: every page I have come across has said it's that device
[19:25] <tontimer> now that MyUnity doesn't work on 12.10, how can I change the icon theme?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> tontimer: gnome-tweak-tool
[19:25] <simplew> ActionParsnip: see this http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/28/fotografia1.png
[19:25] <king313> derpsauce, if you want some software recommendation to do something, there is a lot of websites that tell you
[19:25] <tontimer> ActionParsnip: Ok ty :)
[19:25] <king313> the linux alternative of windows software (like http://www.linuxalt.com/)
[19:26] <king313> or you can simply ask here, but there will be a lot of discrepances because each one have his own opinion about what is the best software to do X
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> simplew: look at the bottom panel, next to the word 'type'
[19:26] <linusasus6> so you pretty sure that it will work perfectly on my Toshiba I know that kde really buggy on it and linux mint 13 and mageia 2 was not working well on it
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> simplew: looks like you need a udev rule to tell it that the device is a webcam, not a keyboard
[19:27] <tontimer> ActionParsnip:  what about ubuntu tweak?
[19:27] <tontimer> does it works on 12.10?
[19:27] <simplew> ActionParsnip: and that matches what apepars in lsusb acer line?
[19:28] <king313> tontimer, I tried it and It worked, but I was not happy with it
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> tontimer: https://launchpad.net/~kendfinger/+archive/ubuntu-tweak-trunk?field.series_filter=quantal
[19:28] <tontimer> king313: why?
[19:28] <king313> I used it to tweak some Unity behaviour, so then I tried to switch to MyUnity to find out that it's not available in 12.10
[19:29] <king313> there was one option that I wanted and did not worked
[19:29] <king313> but it was this one, not all the software
[19:29] <simplew> ActionParsnip:
[19:29] <simplew> :~$ lsusb |grep -i acer
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> simplew: yes, look atthe vendor and the product IDs
[19:29] <simplew> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 5986:0315 Acer, Inc
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> simplew: yes, look at your image
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> simplew: vendor = 5986    yes?
[19:30] <simplew> ActionParsnip: yes
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> simplew: so it IS the acer one, like I said
[19:30] <simplew> ActionParsnip: i dont get why it says its Acer...
[19:30] <simplew> i dont have any acer hardware...
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> simplew: because they have made the controller for your webcam
[19:30] <simplew> the webcam its Bison
[19:30] <simplew> ActionParsnip: ok so now whats my options?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> simplew: it doesn't matter, the people who made the system bout some chips and used them, they identify as that
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> simplew: also every site I've seen says it too
[19:31] <simplew> ActionParsnip: yes ok, and now what cani do?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> simplew: so why say that its not the acer one, when it is
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> simplew: what is the issue with the cam again, please?
[19:33] <simplew> ActionParsnip: in cheese the image apears too bright, too much light, in kamoso it appears more dark, in vlc doesnt appear nitid and with some fuzzy lines, and in windows runs okrunning any application, what can i do in linux to have it better?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> simplew: ok let me search but why did you say that it's not the acer?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> simplew: and what is the output of:  uname -a   please
[19:34] <simplew> ActionParsnip: because its a Bison webcam, my notebook doesnt have any hardware from acer, thats why i said that
[19:35] <simplew> ActionParsnip: Linux insys-W150HRM 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:31:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> simplew: cool
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> simplew: using Quantal ?
[19:36] <marcus> any1 know what to do with "make: lrelease: command not found" ?
[19:36] <simplew> ActionParsnip: yes
[19:36] <simplew> marcus: you need to isntall it
[19:36] <marcus> i know, but how?
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> simplew: this may help:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libv4l/development; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install v4l-utils
[19:37] <mantovani> ould not resolve 'br.archive.ubuntu.com'
[19:37] <mantovani> br.archive is off ?
[19:37] <simplew> marcus: sudo apt-get install qt4-linguist-tools
[19:37] <mantovani> mantovani@ubuntu:~/Perl$ host ubuntu.com
[19:37] <mantovani> ubuntu.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: do you have web access?
[19:38] <wols> marcus: packages.ubuntu.com and you search for the lrelease program there
[19:38] <mantovani> why you guys have this anyoing bot ActionParsnip.
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: 'could not resolve' doesn't mean its off, or you'd get a 404 when you tried to connect
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: i'm not a bot
[19:38] <simplew> marcus: apt-file search lrelease
[19:38] <mantovani> sorry
[19:38] <wols> marcus: if it doesn't exist, then you find out what this program does and possibly rewrite the source code you have
[19:38] <simplew> marcus: and you will get which package has that binary
[19:38] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: humm
[19:38] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: let me check
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: could not resolve means the name could not be reolved to an IP address
[19:38] <wols> simplew: apt-file is installed by default?
[19:38] <mantovani> I know that :)
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: its a lot different
[19:39] <simplew> wols: no
[19:39] <mantovani> I'm using google DNS
[19:39] <marcus> i did aptitude search lrelease and it gives me no results, as well as the site ..
[19:39] <marcus> its a command
[19:39] <mantovani> can u resolve ActionParsnip ?
[19:39] <wols> marcus: yes. and that's why you go to packages.ubuntu.com. there you can search for it
[19:39] <marcus> i searched, no results..
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: then its not off then, is it. You ust cant resolve br.ubuntu.com to an IP
[19:39] <wols> marcus: or you install apt-file if you want to
[19:39] <danon_> well that is just fanfreakin tastic
[19:39] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: not <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> DNS can ?
[19:40] <marcus> k i try apt-file
[19:40] <mantovani> so I think the problem ins't me.
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: try:   echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[19:40] <simplew> ActionParsnip: help how? these are just tools, no drivers
[19:40] <mantovani> I already use it...
[19:40] <danon_> i updated the video driver to the nvidia one by software update now nothing shows up except the wallpaper
[19:40] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: Can u solve the address ?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: let me try
[19:40] <wols> marcus: I found lrelease. on packages.ubuntu.com. try harder
[19:41] <PP80> Hi, I have put '0 */6 * * * rsync -aq --delete rsync/rsync.torproject.org/tor/ /srv/www/mirror.gb.com/tor' in a crontab to start running a mirror for a website. Although after 24 hours nothing is located in that folder. What should I check first?
[19:41] <simplew> marcus: already told ya whats thepackage you need to install
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: no, looks like the DNS is out, try switching to a different server
[19:41] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: what ?
[19:41] <marcus> i found with apt-file, thankyou:-]
[19:42] <marcus> bb
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: I cannot resolve br.archive.ubuntu.com to an IP either
[19:42] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: I know...
[19:42] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: I'm asking what server I sweet ?
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: so, change to a different server which works
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: if you lose the br.   prefix, you will use the main server
[19:42] <PP80> Hi, I have put '0 */6 * * * rsync -aq --delete rsync/rsync.torproject.org/tor/ /srv/www/mirror.gb.com/tor' in a crontab to start running a mirror for a website. Although after 24 hours nothing is located in that folder. What should I check first?
[19:42] <mantovani> kk
[19:42] <j045> hi peeps
[19:43] <j045> nick j045
[19:43] <j045> whoami
[19:43] <wols> PP80: your mail
[19:43] <j045> help
[19:43] <wols> j045: what is your ubuntu related support problem?
[19:43]  * mantovani updating
[19:43] <PP80> wols: my mail?
[19:44] <wols> PP80: yes
[19:44] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[19:44] <PP80> wols: what do you mean? I don't have e-mail on this server
[19:44] <michealPW> Ubuntu offers mail? :)
[19:44] <wols> PP80: then your server is broken.
[19:44] <j045> sorry dude having a problem at the mo
[19:44] <mantovani> michealPW: google does.
[19:44] <mantovani> :)
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: does it now work ok?
[19:44] <mantovani> let me check
[19:44] <michealPW> Google sux hehe
[19:44] <PP80> wols: huh? I have a rsync problem not mail problem
[19:44] <mantovani> michealPW: duckduckgo.com
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: ubuntu members get an @ubuntu address :)
[19:44] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: updating
[19:45] <michealPW> I use duckduckgo :)
[19:45] <wols> PP80: no you have most probably a cron problem. and guess what cron does when it encounters a problem: it MAILS!
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: me too
[19:45] <mantovani> duckduckgo++
[19:45] <michealPW> Ubuntu Members, what do you mean? Hehe I want an @ubuntu.com !
[19:45] <baggers> Is this the place for technical questions abou the nexus7 ubuntu build or is there a prefered room for that?
[19:45] <mantovani> I have an official tshirt from duckduckgo :P
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: become a member and you'll get one
[19:45] <PP80> wols: so where would it mail? do i just type '$ mail?
[19:45] <mantovani> is working ActionParsnip
[19:45] <wols> PP80: for example. yes. dunno how and if you have set up local mail
[19:46] <mantovani> brazilian server is off.
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: not off
[19:46] <mantovani> dns*
[19:46] <mantovani> I know
[19:46] <michealPW> ActionParsnip: How do I become a member?
[19:46] <PP80> wols: -bash: mail: command not found :|
[19:46] <mantovani> brazilian DNS server is not answer.
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: yes, the DNS is screwy, the servers could be on. Just not reachable
[19:46] <bjrohan> I am having all kinds of issues with ffmpeg and codecs, and getting files converted, mainly using KDenlive. does anyone have experience in this arena?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[19:46] <wols> PP80: /var/mail/
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: if you /whois me you will see my member cloak :)
[19:47] <PP80> wols: empty :(
[19:47] <michealPW> Hrmm
[19:47] <litropy> Still clear, ActionParsnip. Thanks again; seeya.
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: it is, until the server can be resolved to an IP from the name it is unreachable. The servers very well may be on
[19:47] <wols> PP80: do a dummy cronjob to check if the job runs as intended. then put your command inside a script which also does something you know that it ran
[19:48] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: I know...
[19:48] <wols> and last but not least try your cron job command manually to see if it works as intended. under the user the cronjob runs
[19:48] <PP80> wols: omg. -bash: rsync: command not found
[19:48]  * PP80 facepalm
[19:49] <PP80> thanks :p
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> PP80: d'oh
[19:49] <wols> PP80: if your mail system had worked, cron would have sent you the error message, alerting you to the problem
[19:49] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: thank you very much
[19:50] <PP80> wols: how should I just install a basic mail system, where processes can e-mail me locally?
[19:51] <deadbeef> guys please suggest me some neat rpg, like fallout 3, that is both nice and playable on ubuntu using wine or cxoffice
[19:52] <Aleush> hi
[19:52] <wols> PP80: just install a SMTP server yes. should be configured like this out of the box. don't let port 25 from outside reach you. if you are behind a NAT no config necessary
[19:52] <derpsauce> ActionParsnip: You still on?
[19:52] <wols> derpsauce: appdb.winehq.org
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> derpsauce: aye
[19:53] <tdoggette> I have Linux Mint 11 running on a G3 iMac and I'm looking for advice on getting a faster user experience
[19:53] <lenswipe> i installed gnome3 and now i cant get past the ubuntu wallpaper
[19:53] <lenswipe> tdoggette: #mint
[19:53] <derpsauce> ActionParsnip: I'm having some performance issues with my Wubi 12.10 install. Should I move down to 12.04?
[19:53] <baggers> It looks like using askubuntu for nexus7 related questions may be against askubuntu policy (understandably so looking at the rules). Any idea where would be better? For details see the discussion on meta: http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/5308/should-questions-about-nexus-7-be-off-topic?cb=1
[19:53] <tdoggette> lenswipe, Thanks
[19:53] <lenswipe> when i start ubuntu up i just get the default wallpaper and a mose cursor
[19:53] <lenswipe> can someone help with this?
[19:53] <lenswipe> I need this laptop for university and right now its essentially useless.
[19:54] <lenswipe> im typing this message from a university PC
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[19:55] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: its ubuntu 12.10
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: if you press CTRL+ALT+T a terminal should run,
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: 12.10 comes with Gnome3 by default
[19:56] <lenswipe> seemingly not
[19:56] <lenswipe> because i installed gnome3 from the software center
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: when you installed 12.10 you had Gnome3 and Unity
[19:56] <lenswipe> no i didnt
[19:56] <lenswipe> i only had unity
[19:56] <lenswipe> and if i press Ctrl + Alt + T the terminal appears and disappears
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: Unity is a shell for Gnome
[19:56] <Aleush> ÷åãî?
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: you run both as well as Cmpiz when you run Unity
[19:56] <Aleush> ActionParsnip: ÷óðêà?
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> Aleush: what does that mean?
[19:57] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: well its broken now
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: Unity isn't a replacement for Gnome
[19:57] <Aleush> haha
[19:57] <quidnunc> "Would you like to install youtube" <--- What is this going to install in firefox?
[19:57] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: The sort and long of it is this - i went into the software center, installed "GNOME" and told Ubuntu to use GDM as my default desktop environment instead of lightdm
[19:57] <JamoBox> Hey guys, I'm completely new to ubuntu and need some help if possible. I'm trying to install ubuntu as a partition to my win7 os on my harddrive. I have burnt the latest installer to a dvd-rw and restarted my pc. When it restarted it came up with windows boot manager saying that wubildr was missing or corrupt, and it didn't boot. Any ideas?
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> quidnunc: its a webapp
[19:58] <lenswipe> my computer is now useless
[19:58] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: thats basically it.
[19:58] <quidnunc> ActionParsnip: What is a webapp?
[19:58] <Aleush> ActionParsnip: it is difficult to
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: lightdm isnt a desktop environment, its a (d)esktop (m)anager
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> quidnunc: the web will tell you I'm a little tied up
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> !webapp
[19:59] <derpsauce> I'm having performance issues with 12.10. Should I move down to 12.04? I've had an invisible cursor with 12.04 in the past (I'm using Wubi).
[19:59] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: okay well when i installed gnome it asked me which defaul desktop manager i would like and i selected gdm instead of light dm. The computer is now useless an only shows the default ubuntu desktop
[19:59] <quidnunc> ActionParsnip: I'll just install it to see. How do I remove it once installed?
[19:59] <linusasus6> wich option I choose : delete ubuntu precise and reinstall or something else and choose the old partition that I will modify and format
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: Gnome is stil the desktop environment when you installed 12.10 with compiz as the window manager and Unity as the shell instead of gnome-panel
[19:59] <JamoBox> Anyone?
[20:00] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: so do you know how to fix it or....
[20:00] <fidel_> hi - got ubuntu 12.04 and am trying to move data from & to an ipod touch running ios 4.2.1. any tips? clementine (my music player sees the device and its content but seems to be read-limited)
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 and install the gnome-panel package, then run:  killall -u $USER   you should then be able to use Gnome Panel as the shell
[20:00] <Jisawesome2> What packages should I install if I want to use ubuntu server as a web server
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> !lamp | Jisawesome2
[20:00] <quidnunc> JamoBox: Are you booting from the DVD?
[20:00] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: any particular reason that the software center didn't do that when i installed gnome?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> derpsauce: what video chip do you use?
[20:00] <fidel_> do i need a specific iois version on the touch for best support?
[20:01] <Jisawesome2> Actionparsnip, do I need any others?
[20:01] <JamoBox> I've tried going into bios and making sure cd/dvd boot is first, yes
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: no idea, it'd be worth installing so you at least get a shell to use
[20:01] <sevenforall> Is there a way to auto-publish stuff in my Ubuntu One folder?
[20:01] <Jisawesome2> !openssh
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Jisawesome2: that will give a flly featured web host with sql and php and lots of other goodies
[20:01] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: right
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> quidnunc: its just a package, like any other
[20:02] <Jisawesome2> Actionparsnip, is there a way to host multiple websites on one server
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> quidnunc: its just a handy installer etc
[20:02] <derpsauce> ActionParsnip: What do you mean?
[20:02] <wols> Jisawesome2: apache virtualhost
[20:02] <quidnunc> ActionParsnip: Okay, how do I disable all those prompts for youtube/twitter/etc
[20:02] <quidnunc> ?
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> derpsauce: what do you have that puts the image on the screen?
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> quidnunc: I believe once you say no to them they don't come back
[20:02] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: apparently gnome-panel is already the newest version
[20:02] <quidnunc> ActionParsnip: I have to do it for each site?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> quidnunc: I don't know I gave up on Firefox years ago
[20:03] <Jisawesome2> wols, I did not mean subdomains
[20:03] <Jisawesome2> That appears to be only for x.y.com and z.y.com
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: then try a different session from the login screen, see how that gies
[20:03] <Hanmac> i search for an copy command that syncs two locations (it should copy all attributes)
[20:03] <derpsauce> ActionParsnip: As far as I can tell I am using the Unity desktop. I installed and things got slowed down a bit.
[20:03] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: I cant *GET* to the login screen :'(
[20:04] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: it boots and just shows me the default ubuntu wallpaper and a cursor
[20:04] <lenswipe> that's all i get
[20:04] <wols> Jisawesome2: virtalhost has nothing to do with subdomains at all
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: oh you use autologin?
[20:04] <wols> Jisawesome2: you can run x.com, y.com and z.com, all via virtualhost
[20:04] <lenswipe>  ActionParsnip nope
[20:04] <derpsauce> ActionParsnip: Windows ("Home" folder for example) will stop responding, but heavier apps (like Minecraft, because I just installed it) don't have any problems.
[20:04] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: I don't use autologin
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: press CTRL+ALT+F1 and run:   killall -u $USER    and it will hopefully show
[20:05] <lenswipe> okay
[20:05] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: nothin
[20:05] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone know of a way to force BURG to use a certain resolution, regardless of what is listed as being supported by vbeinfo? I tried manually changing the resolution in burg.cfg
[20:05] <kevin_|TABLET> Hi all. I just installed on a new SSD, and now when i boot, grub errors with 'unknown filesystem' .... any ideas?
[20:05] <lenswipe> it just returns me to a prompt in tty1 and tty7 is still filled with the default ubuntu wallpaper and a mouse cursor
[20:06] <Jisawesome2> wols, would this work on a 15 year old computer?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: try reinstalling lightdm package, may help
[20:06] <lenswipe> great.
[20:06] <pasteloides> mount disk?
[20:06] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: purge or just remove?
[20:07] <wols> Jisawesome2: on any computer running ubuntu. however, a 15 year old computer will not be able to run a dynamic website (e.g. with php and mysql) fast enough
[20:07] <michealPW> JamoBox: So, you cannot boot your computer from the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[20:07] <pasteloides> is xubuntu
[20:07] <Jisawesome2> wols, I am planning on getting new hardware
[20:07] <wols> pasteloides: what is your actual problem?
[20:08] <wols> Jisawesome2: static webpages will be fine, even on the old computer however
[20:08] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: okay im re-installing lightdm
[20:08] <pasteloides> i cannot open the hard disk
[20:08] <lenswipe> it's asking me what to use for the default display manager
[20:08] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: should i use lightdm or gdm?
[20:09] <wols> pasteloides: more information needed. better description of the problem needed
[20:09] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: i went for lightdm
[20:09] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: okay it's still doing that thing where it only shows the ubuntu default wallpaper
[20:09] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: no change.
[20:09] <n0sq> just rolled back the wifes laptop to 12.04.1 - amsn is missing but at least emesene is working ok - hopefully they'll get the bug worked out of amsn soon
[20:09] <lenswipe> it's still broken
[20:09] <spacebarbarian> how do i fully disable compiz ? it keeps crashing my UI and asking to relaunch ?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: could install the xfce4 package, you will at least have a usable desktop to work with
[20:10] <wols> spacebarbarian: run xubuntu
[20:11] <spacebarbarian> great suggestion, reinstall and remove all my stuff to disable 1 UI element
[20:11] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: but like...
[20:11] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: how many desktop managers do i have to install before ubuntu actually becomes usable?
[20:12] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: Let me explain how this works - i start my computer up, i go past the decryption thing and then I get this: http://i.imgur.com/GD3w6.jpg
[20:12] <n0sq> lenswipe: good question
[20:12] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: and thats all that is on the screen no matter how many times i restart GNOME or Unity or whatever
[20:12] <lenswipe> n0sq: i hate ubuntu so much
[20:12] <lenswipe> n0sq: that's a fairly recent development
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: desktop environment, xfce is a desktop environment, not a manager
[20:12] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: meaning...
[20:13] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: all I want to do is remove unity because it looks horrible and runs like molasses - I didn't realise that was a forbidden task on ubuntu
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: the manager with still be eiter lightdm or gdm, the desktop will be xfce4 and the window manager will be xfwm4
[20:13] <n0sq> ubuntu has bee problematic in 12.x
[20:13] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: but i don't want XFCE - i want GNOME
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: its not, you just have to install gnome-panel and you could use the old style desktop
[20:14]  * n0sq was using mandriva until it's support died
[20:14] <lenswipe> n0sq: ubuntu has been dogshit since they introduced Unity. I hate unity so much you have no idea.
[20:14] <linusasus6> do you recommend this ppa : ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable  or is better to install the one from repertory
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: you don't need anything else. I have no idea what you have installed
[20:14] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: i have gnome-panel installed and i cant get a login screen
[20:14] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: all the stuff i installed came from the software center. it's not like ive done anything weird or crazy. i just used the packages provided by cannonical/ubuntu
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: yes because you installed all manner of godknows whatelse too
[20:15] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: everything was fine until I installed gnome from the software center.
[20:15] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: that broke things
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: you could add the gnome-panel item to the startup items for the session and it may work
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: yes, all you had to do was install gnome-panel. Nothing more
[20:16] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: im not seeing how this is my fault
[20:16] <unityman> lenswipe: Unity has a purpose with Arm and introduction of lower powered pc/laptop and introduction of cell phones and tablet desktop... There is a purpose.
[20:16] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone know of a way to force BURG to use a certain resolution, regardless of what is listed as being supported by vbeinfo? I tried manually changing the resolution in burg.cfg, but it would appear that it's not working.
[20:16] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: i installed the gnome package from the software center in good faith that it wouldnt fuck my computer in the ground
[20:17] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: correct me if im wrong but that _IS_ the point of the software center isnt it?
[20:17] <heart-rythms> hello people is here somone who can help me with my qjack ?
[20:17] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: if i only have to install gnome panel - why is there a "GNOME" package in the software center?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: i have no idea
[20:18] <michealPW> lenswipe: Do you have pastebinit installed? To install it type the following in a terminal: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:18] <michealPW> lenswipe: Once pastebinit is installed, enter this in a terminal: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager | pastebinit
[20:18] <|Anthony|> how can i change the appearance of firefox so that, google for example, isn't a white background
[20:19] <michealPW> lenswipe: Then copy/paste the URL that pastebinit returns.
[20:19] <lenswipe> michealPW:
[20:19] <lenswipe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313418/
[20:19] <michealPW> thx
[20:19] <|Anthony|> i've added ff themes and they change some things, but not the actual page colors
[20:19] <zikalify> Just having a read of an article talking about secureboot in ubuntu  12.10, just wondering, is this gonna be backported to any new 12.04 isos?
[20:19] <hmmwhatsthisdo> |Anthony|: Google "stylish for firefox"
[20:19] <michealPW> lenswipe: Right, now do this in a terminal: cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | pastebinit
[20:19] <robbie> how can I reset all the networking config's on my pc? I think Ive hosed it a bit with so many changes trying to diagnose a problem.
[20:20] <lenswipe> michealPW: https://paste.ubuntu.com/1313428
[20:21] <michealPW> Hrmm
[20:21] <michealPW> Weird.
[20:21] <michealPW> Seems fine :\
[20:22] <robbie> is there a way to see the recently installed/uninstalled packages on your system ?
[20:22] <lenswipe> im just failing to understand how installing something from the official ubuntu software center can screw your whole machine into the ground
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: if you like the Gnome2 smell you can use Xubuntu and Unit won't even be installed, or you can install Mate or Cinammon to get an unsupported fork of Gnome2
[20:22] <MissMinx> Network Card :	Broadcom BCM4306(??) 802.11g Wireless NIC
[20:22] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: i really just wanted vanilla gnome3 without unity
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | MissMinx
[20:22] <|Anthony|> hmmwhatsthisdo, i forgot about Stylish. thanks :)
[20:22] <MissMinx> How to get working on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS live disc before install?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: vanilla Gnome3 uses gnome-shell as the shell
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> MissMinx: its all in that link
[20:22] <MissMinx> Thanks x
[20:23] <robbie> How can I see the recently installed/uninstalled packages on my system ?
[20:23] <michealPW> *thinks*
[20:23] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Unity_5.12_on_Ubuntu_12.04.png/300px-Unity_5.12_on_Ubuntu_12.04.png
[20:23] <robbie> is there an "apt-get log" or something?
[20:23] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: im fairly certain that's unity
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> robbie: gedit /var/log/dpkg.log     scroll to the bottom for the latest packages being installed
[20:23] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: and although that is a screenshot of 12.04 - my 12.10 desktop looked quite a lot like that.
[20:23] <michealPW> Ilenswipe; Ah, righto.. Try this then
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: no, Unity is Ubuntu specific and made by Canonical
[20:23] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone know of a way to force BURG to use a certain resolution, regardless of what is listed as being supported by vbeinfo? I tried manually changing the resolution in burg.cfg, but it would appear that it's not working.
[20:24] <JasonGriffee> when compiling from source, ./configure results in "No such file or directory"
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: the deault Gnome3 shell is gnome-shell
[20:24] <zikalify> @MissMinx go to live session then search for additional drivers in unity search and enable driver from there,installs from disc rather than needing to tether to ethernet
[20:24] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: right...
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> JasonGriffee: did you read the install or readme file in the files you have
[20:24] <michealPW> lenswipe: Do you have X up and running, can you run gedit or are you just using a shell?
[20:24] <lenswipe> michealPW: i cant even get a login screen
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: do you have gdm installed?
[20:24] <JasonGriffee> ActionParsnip: Yes, not helpful
[20:24] <michealPW> lenswipe: Righto, then do you know vim?
[20:24] <lenswipe> michealPW: every time i start X i just see http://i.imgur.com/GD3w6.jpg
[20:24] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: yes i do
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: uninstall it and you will only have lightdm which shold be fine
[20:25] <michealPW> lenswipe: sudo vim /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[20:25] <michealPW> Change from /usr/sbin/lightdm to /usr/bin/gdm
[20:25] <michealPW> Then restart X
[20:25] <lenswipe> michealPW: quite wel
[20:26] <JasonGriffee> ActionParsnip: I'm installing Java JDK 7
[20:26] <michealPW> ActionParsnip: His lightdm is failing, though, I'm pretty sure? :|
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: could reinstall the package, should re-setup the app
[20:27] <lenswipe> michealPW: what do you want me to do with it?
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> JasonGriffee: do you want oracle java?
[20:27] <michealPW> Yea, weird. My lightdm has no problem managing LXDE, XFCE4, KDE4.9, GNOME 3 and Unity HEEHEEE!
[20:28] <michealPW> lenswipe: default-display-manager is just a text-file with a pathname in it. Yours is set right now to /usr/sbin/lightdm. Change to /usr/bin/gdm
[20:28] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone know of a way to force BURG to use a certain resolution, regardless of what is listed as being supported by vbeinfo? I tried manually changing the resolution in burg.cfg, but it would appear that it's not working.
[20:28] <JasonGriffee> ActionParsnip: Ideally, yes.
[20:28] <christop1> hi, gnome-shell periodically asks me for a password, only information it gives me is that the username is my email address, but won't tell me which service it is for and I have no idea which one it wants, how do I find out what it might ask for there? tried watching gnome-shell's console output, but nothing interesting in there
[20:28] <michealPW> That will stop using lightdm and use GDM instead. Since you want to use GNOME 3, you might aswell run GDM anyways (GDM pre-loads chunks of GNOME)
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> JasonGriffee: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html   use a PPA, easier :)
[20:29] <lenswipe> michealPW: okay
[20:29] <JasonGriffee> ActionParsnip: Will this work with netbeans?
[20:30] <michealPW> lenswipe: If that works, we at least know it's a problem with lightdm right? :)
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> JasonGriffee: java is java so I'd imagine so yes
[20:30] <lenswipe> michealPW: 1) Do you want me to restart my machine after this? 2) There are _MANY_ problems with lightdm
[20:30] <michealPW> lenswipe: Then we can try to fix lightdm or you can just continue on with GDM hehe. GDM works fine, they all do. YOu can run GDM and log-in to a Unity session.. You can run KDM and log-in to a GNOME 3 session, etc. etc. They all work with each other, I've got them all installed on Ubuntu 12.04.
[20:31] <lenswipe> michealPW: lighdm = unity?
[20:31] <michealPW> lenswipe: You CAN restart your machine, it's the easiest way. You don't HAVE to, you can kill your x server and restart it. Probably easy to just restart the entire machine :P
[20:31] <lenswipe> michealPW: im after a vanilla gdm/gnome shell install
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: no lightdm is a desktop manager, gives a login page etc. Unity is a shell for the Gnomedesktop
[20:31] <michealPW> lenswipe: Nope. Lightdm is totaly seperate. It's actually really cool. They switched to lightdm 'cause it's lightweight and extensible
[20:31] <michealPW> lenswipe: Ah, then you probably want GDM mate :P
[20:32] <lenswipe> k
[20:32] <lenswipe> i set it to lightdm
[20:32] <lenswipe> okay im at the UBUNTU ...... screen right now
[20:32] <lenswipe> with the orange loading dots
[20:32] <robbie> how can I reset all the networking config's on my pc? I think Ive hosed it a bit with so many changes trying to diagnose a problem.
[20:33] <michealPW> Wait, you set to lightdm? You want to set it to: /usr/bin/gdm
[20:33] <michealPW> Also, that's not a typo. GDM is in /usr/bin, lightdm is in /usr/sbin.. Two different directories :P
[20:33] <lenswipe> michealPW: it seems to be stuck on that
[20:33] <michealPW> So your text file, /etc/X11/default-display-manager should contain /usr/bin/gdm.
[20:34] <michealPW> Double-check with cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[20:34] <lenswipe> michealPW: ActionParsnip it seems to be stuck on the UBUNTU loading screen
[20:35] <michealPW> lenswipe: Use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to virtual terminal 1..
[20:35] <lenswipe> yeah i can get a terminal
[20:35] <lenswipe> ive done that
[20:35] <michealPW> Then log-in. Type cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager | pastebinit
[20:35] <robbie> how can I reset all the networking config's on my pc? I think Ive hosed it a bit with so many changes trying to diagnose a problem.
[20:35] <lenswipe> michealPW: oh by the way - if i restart gdm i see warnings about plymouthd
[20:35] <lenswipe> and right now its at the top of top
[20:35] <michealPW> Hrmm
[20:35] <lenswipe> not sure if that's relevant or not
[20:36] <JasonGriffee> ActionParsnip: Thank you.
[20:36] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone know of a way to force BURG to use a certain resolution, regardless of what is listed as being supported by vbeinfo? I tried manually changing the resolution in burg.cfg, but it would appear that it's not working.
[20:36] <lenswipe> michealPW: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313467
[20:37] <aleksej> Hey, im new to linux, can someone help me with installing JAVA :-)
[20:37] <michealPW> hrmm!
[20:37] <lahwran> it's easy to convert 12.04.1 default-desktop to 12.04.1 kde-desktop, right?
[20:37] <danon_> why do graphic drivers have to be a pain in the ass
[20:37] <lahwran> they don't
[20:38] <lahwran> unfortunately they currently are
[20:38] <michealPW> Oh I'm retarded
[20:38] <lenswipe> aleksej: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk openjdk-6-jre
[20:38] <michealPW> Sorry, use vim and change that to /usr/sbin/gdm
[20:38] <lenswipe> aleksej: run that
[20:38] <gordonjcp> danon_: because manufacturers make hardware that they do not disclose the full spec for
[20:38] <lenswipe> ah okay
[20:38] <danon_> i bet its because companys dont think about linux at all really
[20:38] <xangua> !java | aleksej
[20:38] <michealPW> I thought gdm was in /bin like kdm was hehehe
[20:38] <gordonjcp> danon_: so with all the graphics drivers out there, you are somewhat reliant on cramming a binary blob in somewhere
[20:38] <danon_> god why cant nvidia just make a .deb package
[20:38] <xangua> aleksej: or you can try: (14:28:46) ActionParsnip: JasonGriffee: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html   use a PPA, easier :)
[20:39] <gordonjcp> danon_: for which distro that uses Debian package management?
[20:39] <danon_> .....
[20:39] <lahwran> gordonjcp: actually, I think a significant portion of what makes modern graphics cards so powerful is software now. not winmodem crap where the cpu does it, but stuff where the gpu is actually programmed from software by the driver
[20:39] <danon_> ubuntu?
[20:39] <gordonjcp> danon_: and which version of that distro, and which kernel, and and and
[20:39] <kevin_|TABLET> Sooo i am in grub rescue console, and its showing (hd0,msdos1) .... is that norma;?
[20:39] <gordonjcp> lahwran: correct
[20:39] <wrostek> Question about hotapd wifi, I have 80211n network setup, I can get 40mb/s in iperf across wifi.. On the hostapd machine I can download from the internet at 3.6 mb/s but on the wireless client I am only getting 2 mb/s..  Why can't I get full 3.6mb/s when the network can run at 40mb/s ?
[20:39] <gordonjcp> lahwran: but that's what the big blob is - the GPU firmware
[20:39] <danon_> i like APUs
[20:39] <aleksej> Thanks guys :)
[20:40] <michealPW> Righto. So once you've edited that (sorry LOL, my mistake) try restarting the machine again and see if it gets to GDM's login screen
[20:40] <gordonjcp> lahwran: if you had a horking great FPGA on a PCIe card with some DACs you could roll your own software-defined graphics card
[20:40] <aleksej> So much things just got changed in ubuntu
[20:40] <lenswipe> michealPW: and we're back to the ubuntu wallpaper and the cursor
[20:40] <derpsauce> ActionParsnip: Any advice concerning shell scripts? I'm learning about them now
[20:40] <lenswipe> michealPW: i think the software center has buggered X up
[20:41] <michealPW> mm, alright, try going back to the terminal and using sudo service gdm stop and then sudo service gdm start
[20:41] <michealPW> To see if it outputs and errors?
[20:41] <michealPW> :\
[20:41] <danon_> but isint alot of driver written in unix and linux basics anyway
[20:42] <quidnunc> My lightdm won't start anymore
[20:42] <lenswipe> michealPW: TTY7 is showing a message saying "mountall Plymouth command failed" and then "mountall: Disconnected from plymouth"
[20:42] <lenswipe> dont know how relevant that is
[20:42] <michealPW> Hrmm, Iunno what Plymouth even is :\
[20:43] <quidnunc> "Got signal 15"
[20:43] <michealPW> Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[20:43] <lenswipe> michealPW: me either
[20:43] <michealPW> Maybe that will re-install/fix gdm? :\
[20:43] <lenswipe> michealPW: and when i restarted GDM i got back to the ubuntu wallpaper
[20:43] <lenswipe> michealPW: okay
[20:43] <michealPW> That command should trigger it to ask you which one you'd like, select GDM.
[20:44] <lenswipe> michealPW: okay
[20:44] <lenswipe> done
[20:44] <lenswipe> what now?
[20:44] <lenswipe> restart gdm again?
[20:44] <michealPW> It asked you and you selected gdm, hehe?
[20:45] <michealPW> Or did nothing happen at all?
[20:45] <lenswipe> michealPW: yeah it asked me and i selected gdm
[20:45] <michealPW> Righto, yea try restarting it now
[20:45] <lenswipe> michealPW: back to the ubuntu wallpaper
[20:45] <lenswipe> michealPW: no hard disk activity and the machine seemingly doing absolutely zilch
[20:46] <stefanomandelli> hi Guy !
[20:46] <michealPW> Hrmm!
[20:47] <michealPW> I'm stumped, lenswipe :\
[20:47] <joseph-soares> how do I enter in Alternate Mode in 12.10?
[20:47] <michealPW> How did you install GNOME, may I ask?
[20:48] <lenswipe> michealPW: the software center
[20:48] <michealPW> And, is this a basic Ubuntu 12.04 LTS system you installed GNOME on and now it's broken?
[20:48] <michealPW> No I mean, which package did you select and install?
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: how do you mean?
[20:48] <lenswipe> michealPW: there was/is a package called "Gnome" I clicked install, next thing i know - i restart and my computer is hosed.
[20:48] <lenswipe> michealPW: its 12.10
[20:48] <joseph-soares> because the new ISO of ubuntu has into the normal and alternate mode
[20:49] <michealPW> Hrmm
[20:49] <michealPW> Righto, well, here's what you should try...
[20:49] <lenswipe> michealPW: do you know why i installed gnome?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: do you mean the alternate ISO?
[20:49] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, I need start without using graphics mode
[20:49] <michealPW> lenswipe: I could imagine, I like GNOME :)
[20:49] <lenswipe> michealPW: i installed gnome because some genius at cannonical decided to ditch Unity 2D and Unity3D was making my computer run like molasses
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: add the boot option:  text
[20:50] <michealPW> I am using Ubuntu 12.04, I installed GNOME 3 from the gnome 3 repository. Maybe we can remove completely your GNOME and install GNOME from that repo?
[20:50] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, But when I boot from CD it doesn't ask for anythinng. It go to choose between install and try ubuntu
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: 12.04 comes with Gnome3 already
[20:51] <lenswipe> michealPW: so what do i need to do now?
[20:51] <robbie> how can I reset my networking configs to their original state in 12.10?
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: that's normal, what are you wanting to achieve?
[20:51] <lenswipe> michealPW: i have a fucked up computer and university assignments to complete
[20:51] <lenswipe> *round of applause for cannonical*
[20:51] <michealPW> LOL!
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: why are you messing with your OS when time isnt a luxury?
[20:52] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, Where do I put "text", as you said?
[20:52] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: because i needed GDM3 to run Firefox OS which i need for my dissertation
[20:52] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: it doesn't make any sense that a package from the official software center would have that effect
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: then you may want to review your time planning
[20:53] <sliddjur> Why is it that flash videos are playing in like 3 times normal speed?
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> sliddjur: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'fash|gnash|swf|spark'
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: why do you want text only mode on the liveCD?
[20:53] <lenswipe> sliddjur: welcome to ubuntu
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | joseph-soares
[20:54] <ArmyMan007> my ubuntu 12.10 has screwed my moniter settings... i really wish i haven't upgraded my version
[20:54] <ArmyMan007> stuck on 1024x768
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> ArmyMan007: ive seen a few issues with displays with upgrades. I would always clean install
[20:55] <michealPW> lenswipe: Righto, well, try this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> ArmyMan007: what video chip do you use?
[20:55] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, Because I was try to install Ubuntu in a 512MB computer, and it entered the swap partition, so I couldn't format this partition
[20:55] <lenswipe> ArmyMan007: i wish i had never moved to ubuntu period.
[20:55] <robbie> how can I reset my networking config files to their original state in 12.10?
[20:55] <ArmyMan007> ActionParsnip, AMD chip
[20:55] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, And swapoff didn't work
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: then run:  sudo swapoff /dev/partition    and then do as you please
[20:55] <ArmyMan007> lenswipe, agree... in a way
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: try the mini ISO
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> ArmyMan007: do you use the proprietary video driver?
[20:56] <joseph-soares> will mini iso install gnome?
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: it can, if you tell it
[20:56] <joseph-soares> But I can't install from Internet
[20:56] <ArmyMan007> ActionParsnip, yes
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: ah
[20:57] <joseph-soares> It's in a public school and it has a very low connection
[20:57] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip,  slow*
[20:57] <michealPW> lenswipe: Did you enter that, like I said?
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: could use gparted in Ubuntu liveCD and write a new DOS partition table, wiping all partitions and destroying all data, then install
[20:57] <robbie> how can I reset my networking config files to their original state in 12.10?
[20:58] <ArmyMan007> in short... wish i'd never installed ubuntu, every install i have one problem or another
[20:58] <michealPW> lenswipe: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[20:58] <robbie> is that a really difficult wuestion?
[20:58] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone know of a way to force BURG to use a certain resolution, regardless of what is listed as being supported by vbeinfo? I tried manually changing the resolution in burg.cfg, but it would appear that it's not working.
[20:58] <lenswipe> michealPW: what now?
[20:58] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, I tryed this, but swap partition was been used
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> robbie: I was busy with other users, have some patience
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> robbie: you waited 3 minutes....think about it
[20:59] <Guest77317> I recently installed ubuntu 11.10 on a second hand laptop and my wifi connection isnt working. it seems to be a common problem with the broadcom wifi but I am having difficulty solving it. can someone give advice?  The pc I sam having this difficulty on is not connected to the internet
[20:59] <robbie> ActionParsnip: Ive been asking for the past hour
[20:59] <robbie> ActionParsnip: I just dont ask too often :)
[20:59] <ArmyMan007> is there any way to install propiarty drivers from terminal?
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> robbie: how did you define the connections
[20:59] <ArmyMan007> proprietary video driver
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> ArmyMan007: uninstall the driver, reboot then reinstall it
[21:00] <michealPW> lenswipe: sudo vim /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[21:00] <robbie> ActionParsnip: Now I am pretty sure they are a little hosed -- I would be happy to get back to the original settings for networking and start over
[21:00] <ArmyMan007> ActionParsnip, from the terminal...
[21:00] <ArmyMan007> ActionParsnip, I don't have access to anything since I can't see my desktop
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> robbie: how did you define the connections
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> ArmyMan007: does CTRL+ALT+T bring up a terminal?
[21:01] <guntbert> robbie: there is no such thing as "get back to original" in one easy step, thats why you were asked to tell how you changed the settings
[21:01] <robbie> ActionParsnip: I made them a static connection -- you want the interfaces conf in a pastie?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> robbie: ok I'll make the question simpler
[21:01] <lenswipe> michealPW: what am i editing in here
[21:01] <michealPW> lenswipe: change the greeter-session to greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> robbie: did you use network manager or did you use the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[21:01] <linusasus6> what mission-control-5 is for? after installing ubuntu it crash
[21:02] <robbie> ActionParsnip: I used the interfaces file
[21:02] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, When I start LiveCD, Ubuntu uses SWAP partition. So, when I try to create a new partition table, it doesn't work, because LiveCD is using SWAP, because the computer's memory is slow
[21:02] <michealPW> Save that file and then do sudo vim /etc/X11/default-display-manager and change to /usr/sbin/lightdm
[21:02] <michealPW> Then restart the entire machine and cross your fingers! :)
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> robbie: then edit the file and delete everything except the 2 lines defining the lo interface and reboot, it will now be default
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: you should still be able to wipe the drive in liveCD. You could try a puppy liveCD and do it there
[21:03] <guntbert> joseph-soares: open a terminal and type   sudo swapoff -a
[21:03] <lenswipe> michealPW: can we take this to a prvate chat?
[21:03] <robbie> ActionParsnip: I also uninstalled dhcp client -- I can put that pack .. which I would need to if I followed your advice :)
[21:03] <michealPW> Sure :)
[21:03] <lenswipe> sweet
[21:03] <michealPW> I'm just about out of ideas, though hah
[21:03] <robbie> ActionParsnip: there's also the kernel modules for ipv6 I changed
[21:04] <Cristiano-CM> Pessoal alguém ai pode me ajudar com o K3b?
[21:04] <allu3> Hello i'm having hard time trying to install ubuntu 10.04 on an old laptop via PXE i can't get dhcp server up on my ubuntu 12.10 eeepc connected directly to the old pc
[21:04] <robbie> ActionParsnip: I think with all the changes I did I need to fully reconfigure the netowrking to its base state
[21:04] <xangua> !pt | Cristiano-CM
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> robbie: allu3do you not have a home router?
[21:06] <robbie> ActionParsnip: we have the router from the service provider
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> robbie: mistabbed, sorry
[21:07] <allu3> ActionParsnip: yes, but it runs on bridged mode and has other people using it as well
[21:07] <allu3> ActionParsnip: so i can't really use it to habndle dhcp
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> allu3: doesn't it give DHCP tp the PXE boot
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> robbie: If you can tell me what you changed, I can look at my files and say what's going on
[21:08] <robbie> ActionParsnip: That's actually my problem. Ive changed so many things I dont feel like I know all the changes I made anymore. I would rather reset the configuration
[21:09] <allu3> ActionParsnip: um the router is irrelevant at the moment since the old pc is connected straight to the laptop, i'm trying to get the laptop run dhcp server and the PXE stuff and so far it gets stuck to the dhcp server closing itself
[21:09] <gavin__> hello
[21:10] <gavin__> I need help, one of my computers, I have just installed ubuntu 10.10 on it and the Internet is not working at all
[21:10] <gavin__> hello
[21:10] <gavin__> I need help
[21:10] <alone> haha
[21:10] <gavin__> can anyone help me
[21:10] <alone> don't need more sentences ;)
[21:11] <gavin__> whats that suppose to mean?#
[21:11] <alone> gavin__: do it reconizes the network cartis?
[21:11] <guntbert> !enter | gavin__
[21:11] <xangua> gavin__: why are you using an unsupported release anyways¿
[21:11] <gavin__> Well, how do you mean?
[21:11] <yeats> gavin__: did you mean 12.10?
[21:11] <gavin__> no
[21:11] <inorunforyou> hello, what is the md5sum for ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso   ?  7ad57cadae955bd04019389d4b9c1dcb is listed but that does not seem right (I downloaded twice from different mirrors and got a different md5sum)
[21:11] <yeats> !10.10 | gavin__
[21:11] <gavin__> I'm trying to update it, but having no chance
[21:12] <gavin__> no network
[21:12] <gavin__> I plugged in the wire into it, but still no internet and yes 10.10
[21:12] <yeats> gavin__: any reason you're not just installing a newer release?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: maverick is dead
[21:13] <gavin__> I don't have the cd or internet on that one and can't update the newer release without network
[21:13] <robbie> ok, going tor eboot
[21:13] <gavin__> what am I supposed to do?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: ask a buddy to make you a Precise or Quantal CD. You may find one on the front of Linux magazines too
[21:13] <simplew> its thre any plan to create an install to allow to install with encrypted partitions and to choose what cuypher to use like it happens in opensuse distro ?
[21:14] <gavin__> Ok, what if I use a USB stick?
[21:14] <yeats> gavin__: I would go to a location with internet and download an image of 12.10 (or 12.04 if you prefer LTS) and put it on a live USB
[21:14] <gavin__> ok and then, how do I install it from there?
[21:14] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone know of a way to force BURG to use a certain resolution, regardless of what is listed as being supported by vbeinfo? I tried manually changing the resolution in burg.cfg, but it would appear that it's not working.
[21:14] <yeats> gavin__: boot from the USB and click "Install"
[21:14] <allu3> gavin__: if your computers bios supports it simply stick the usb to the computer and select the usb stick from boot options
[21:15] <gavin__> On this pc that I'm currently on is also 10.10. I have 1GB of RAM and won't even let me install the new version
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: thats fine too, just use Precise or Quantal. The others are dead or have very short life left
[21:15] <gavin__> tried to install 3 - 4 times but having no luck of installing
[21:15] <allu3> ActionParsnip: howl ong is 10.04 alive?
[21:15] <allu3> how long*
[21:15] <yeats> !10.04
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> allu3: til April next year
[21:16] <allu3> so 10.04 is still and option
[21:16] <allu3> an*
[21:16] <inorunforyou> hello, what is the md5sum for ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso   ?  7ad57cadae955bd04019389d4b9c1dcb is listed but that does not seem right (I downloaded twice from different mirrors and got a different md5sum)
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> allu3: yes but with 7 months life left, is it worth it
[21:17] <neure> hah
[21:17] <Guest77317>  I recently installed ubuntu 11.10 on a second hand laptop and my wifi connection isnt working. it seems to be a common problem with the broadcom wifi but I am having difficulty solving it. can someone give advice?  The pc I am having this difficulty on is not connected to the interne
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> hmmwhatsthisdo: burg isn't supported here
[21:17] <gavin__> my laptop is about 8 years, I don't know if there is USB support for installing
[21:17] <gavin__> 12.10
[21:17] <neure> i install 12.10 in virtual box and it gets stuck at restart
[21:17] <gavin__> virtual box?
[21:17] <gordonjcp> gavin__: what spec has your laptop got?
[21:18] <neure> yes
[21:18] <gavin__> I no idea
[21:18] <neure> i wonder if its still doing something
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: I have systems that are older and boot USB, you can check in BIOS
[21:18] <gordonjcp> gavin__: you might want to consider Xubuntu or possibly Lubuntu
[21:18] <neure> or should i just reset vbox
[21:18] <guntbert> inorunforyou: the hashes are usually correct, your internet connection may be flaky, use a torrent
[21:18] <gordonjcp> gavin__: if all else fails, gank the drive out and stick it in something newer
[21:18] <gavin__> ok
[21:18] <gavin__> I can't, brought it from somewhere I cant remember
[21:18] <hmmwhatsthisdo> ActionParsnip: It isn't? It's a replacement for GRUB, I'm 98% sure there isn't any other places that provide live-ish support for it
[21:18] <gordonjcp> gavin__: pretty much all Linux distros are cool with that
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> !info burg
[21:18] <allu3> inorunforyou: 7ad57cadae955bd04019389d4b9c1dcb  Downloads/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> hmmwhatsthisdo: I know what it is but its a 3rd party app so its not supported here
[21:19] <allu3> inorunforyou: but mine is downloaded a while ago
[21:19] <gavin__> ok thanks anyways, I'll try USB boot with new version of ubuntu
[21:19] <gavin__> bye
[21:19] <tao> i can not open https site like chase.com and facebook.com but some https site like gmail works.
[21:20] <allu3> tao: problems with DNS?
[21:20] <tao> allu3, where can i check that?
[21:20] <inorunforyou> guntbert: i cannot use a torrent
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> tao: try:   echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null     then run:   sudo apt-get update      is it ok?
[21:21] <guntbert> inorunforyou: why not? but you can use wget instead of a browser, or try to use adifferent mirror
[21:21] <allu3> guntbert: perhaps ISP blocking torrent etc?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.10/release/
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: http access to 32bit and 64bit
[21:22] <randomDude> ActionParsnip: using resolv.conf is only going to be useful if you first stop network-manager (otherwise it peridodically overwrites /etc/resolv.conf)
[21:22] <xangua> allu3: interesting you mention it, does disconecting often when you download a torrent counts as isp blicking ¿
[21:22] <inorunforyou> ActionParsnip: I don't want lubuntu
[21:22] <Medjai> can someone pastebin the default .bashrc for Ubuntu 12.10?
[21:23] <inorunforyou> guntbert: I tried two mirrors as I said originally :/
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: then change the link to ubuntu....to hard?
[21:23] <allu3> xangua: may be, or simply router doesn't handle well lots of connections
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313587
[21:23] <inorunforyou> ActionParsnip: how does this help me? I downloaded that already
[21:23] <inorunforyou> guntbert: also, I'm on windows so I can't use wget I think
[21:24] <randomDude> inorunforyou: yes you can
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: i thought you wanted the ISO?
[21:24] <xangua> allu3: well i have that problem with ubuntu & transmission, but not in windows & utorrent
[21:24] <inorunforyou> ActionParsnip: hello, what is the md5sum for ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso   ?  7ad57cadae955bd04019389d4b9c1dcb is listed but that does not seem right (I downloaded twice from different mirrors and got a different md5sum)
[21:24] <Cracked_Lucidity> when i try to use the make command when attempting to install gtk+ i get an error saying no makefile found, i can see four makefiles in the directory, what am i doing wrong
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> randomDude: only when DHCP lease expires as far as I know
[21:24] <workisgreat> hi. i remember there was an update notification applet available for kubuntu 12.04. where did it go in 12.10?
[21:24] <guntbert> inorunforyou: there are download managers for windows too
[21:24] <inorunforyou> guntbert: ok, which one should I use
[21:25] <Bustacap> Is there anything better than crappy audacity for audio editing?
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: try searching the web for the hash you calculated
[21:25] <inorunforyou> ActionParsnip: no results
[21:25] <guntbert> inorunforyou: try one geographically near to your place
[21:25] <Cracked_Lucidity> Bustacap whats wrong with audacity?
[21:25] <inorunforyou> guntbert: I did already
[21:25] <inorunforyou> I will try a mirror in canada...
[21:26] <malcolm> has anyone got the intel/AMD graphic working yet?
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ocenaudio-easy-to-use-audio-editor.html
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: sounds like a bad download
[21:26] <Bustacap> Cracked_Lucidity, can you save markers?   Will the amd64+mac work on everything the regular image works on?
[21:26] <allu3> xangua: hum i remember having the same once.. dunno what changed but its fixed.. you can also try different torrent programs, like deluge
[21:27] <inorunforyou> ActionParsnip: twice?  With the same erroneous md5sum?
[21:27] <Medjai> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to figure out why I'm getting these weird bash errors when I transfered my ubuntu system from an old laptop running 12.04
[21:27] <guntbert> inorunforyou: no idea
[21:27] <Medjai> I thought .bashrc was different and causing these erros but it's not that
[21:27] <Bustacap> ActionParsnip, thank you for the 20th time this week. I'll try it out.
[21:27] <Cracked_Lucidity> Bustacap, i believe so, but i do not know where to find it
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/lombard-fillmore-2-new-video-audio-editing-apps-released
[21:27] <Guest14478> any one installed oolite on their machine
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: I just search the web :)
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> !info oolite
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest14478: sounds cool
[21:28] <gavin__> hello
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: maybe the hash is wrong on the site, let me try
[21:28] <gavin__> I have a major issue with my own PC, my PC is about 7 years old and I'm still currently using ubuntu 10.10
[21:28] <gavin__> I can't even update it
[21:29] <Guest14478> action parnip, yeah its good but for some unknown reason, i can't find the oolite directory.
[21:29] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, guntbert When I make "sudo swapoff -a" it returns: "swapoff"
[21:29] <joseph-soares> sorry
[21:30] <Toa> gavin__, tell us your issue and we'd be happy to help.
[21:30] <martinjlowm-lapt> regarding the schedule for UDS tomorrow, what's on after 18:00?
[21:30] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, guntbert Returns: "swapoff: /dev/sda2: swapoff failed: cannot allocate memory"
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: 7 mins to download
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: tried puppy?
[21:31] <inorunforyou> ActionParsnip, guntbert: ca mirror worked with the correct md5sum!
[21:31] <c_smith> gavin__, that's because the repos for Maverick (10.10) don't technically exist anymore.
[21:31] <Cracked_Lucidity> gavin__ did you try a live disk or bootable usb drive?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: sweet
[21:31] <c_smith> gavin__, so the updates aren't there.
[21:32] <gavin__> ok, well basically, my pc only has 1GB of Ram, I tried updating to 12.10, but having no luck
[21:32] <gavin__> what can you suggest I do?
[21:32] <linusasus6> why mission-control-5 crash on start
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: still want me to make a hash for you or arewe all good?
[21:32] <c_smith> gavin__, you could try a fresh install after backing up
[21:32] <gavin__> fresh install?
[21:32] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, Sorry, what's this?
[21:32] <gavin__> as in download the latest version and install it
[21:33] <Cracked_Lucidity> gavin__ exactly
[21:33] <inorunforyou> ActionParsnip: nah, thanks though
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: its a super light linux distro, should run fine in 512Mb and you can then delete the swap
[21:33] <gavin__> ok, I'll try that, will 1GB be able to support it?
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: no probs
[21:34] <Cracked_Lucidity> gavin__ this netbook only has one gigabyte of ram
[21:34] <gavin__> ok, what about other specs requirements?
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: lubuntu uses a lot less RAM than the rest
[21:34] <gavin__> I'm not downloading the lite version
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: my desktop is using 256Mb right now with pidgin and docky running :)
[21:35] <allu3> ActionParsnip: could you help me setting up dhcpd for PXE ?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> allu3: not something I've ever setup.  It won't stay connected.
[21:36] <allu3> ActionParsnip: i can't manage to get dhcpd running in any way :S
[21:36] <kwerk> I mean what's the deals
[21:36] <Toa> gavin__, if you find it to be too slow, xubuntu or lubuntu would certainly help.  You can install standard Ubuntu first and then install others later, switching between them at the login screen.
[21:37] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, Ok, I'll try it. But I'd like to use the LiveCD I've downloaded. I thought it was possible
[21:38] <inorunforyou> also thanks guntbert
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: me too. weird
[21:38] <inorunforyou> bye!  I LOVE UBUNTU
[21:38] <Cracked_Lucidity> Toa do you have any idea why i get a no makefile error when i use the make command? the makefiles are there
[21:40] <Toa> Cracked_Lucidity, sorry, I can't help you with that one.  I'm pretty new to that myself.
[21:42] <gavin__> i'll try lubuntu to see how it goes
[21:43] <gavin__> how do I check what machine am I using such as 32 or 64 bit
[21:43] <jolish> i logged into my server and all terminal commands are gone.. if i use the up and down arrow I can't see any former commands.. how to?
[21:44] <gavin__> ?
[21:44] <fluitfries> i am trying to use unetbootin to create a bootable ubuntu iso.  i have tried fat32, ntfs, and ext2...  nothing will actually boot the pc.  what do i need to do to the drive before applying the ISO to it??
[21:44] <gavin__> hello
[21:44] <kostkon> gavin__, either check in system monitor, or in the terminal give: uname -r
[21:45] <kostkon> gavin__, if it says generic you are using 32bit, otherwise 64bit
[21:45] <gavin__> ok
[21:45] <kostkon> gavin__, your machine or ubuntu?
[21:45] <allu3> fluitfries: on usb stick?
[21:45] <kostkon> gavin__, cpu*
[21:46] <gavin__> I can see ubuntu 14.04 LTS, is that the Lite version which uses less than a Gig ram
[21:46] <allu3> gavin__: 14.04.. wait what?
[21:46] <Medjai> can anyone point me to where I can trace why I'm getting errors when my terminal first opens up?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: 14.04 isn't out til 2014
[21:46] <kostkon> gavin__, does the cmd:  cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep long   output anything?
[21:46] <gavin__> sorry ubuntu 12.04 LTS, is that the Lite version?
[21:47] <jolish> I lost all previous commandos in terminal.. what could I do to return my commands?
[21:47] <gavin__>  sorry ubuntu 12.04 LTS, is that the Lite version?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: grab Lubuntu 12.04
[21:47] <daviddoria> How do I tell which driver is currently being used for my video card?
[21:47] <inorunforyou> when will they allow ubuntu to be installed in my girlfriend so I can make love to ubuntu?
[21:47] <allu3> fluitfries: are you trying to make bootable liveCd or liveUSB ?
[21:47] <allu3> inorunforyou: just wait for cyborgs
[21:48] <kostkon> allu3, :P
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[21:49] <fluitfries> allu3, i want to install from the ISO, but it is a USB yes
[21:49] <allu3> fluitfries: so you have an iso file and a usb stick?
[21:49] <allu3> fluitfries: are you on an ubuntu system?
[21:50] <fluitfries> allu3, yes, i have tried with unetbootin from both a linux and win7 os
[21:50] <fluitfries> allu3, yes i have both
[21:50] <allu3> fluitfries: go on linux if you aren't there
[21:50] <gavin__> I tried to download Lubuntu, the computer says it needs to take at least 7 hours
[21:50] <allu3> fluitfries: plug your usb stick to the computer and go on terminal
[21:50] <fluitfries> allu3, ok
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: could use the torrent: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[21:50] <soman> Hi all. How I can make my app to use libcurl.so from it's folder not from system? Ubuntu 12.04? LD_LIBRARY_PATH=executable's path
[21:51] <allu3> write dmesg and put it in pastebin
[21:51] <NativeAngels> hello anyone had experience of dell poweredge servers
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> NativeAngels: I was certified in them for a while :)
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> NativeAngels: the hardware side
[21:52] <allu3> fluitfries: write dmesg and put it in pastebin
[21:52] <fluitfries> allu3, the output is so long that it is cut off in my terminal buffer
[21:52] <allu3> fluitfries: don't worry i'm interested in like last 20 lines
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: or install pastebinit then run:  dmesg | pastebinit
[21:52] <kostkon> fluitfries, dmesg > ~/Desktop/dmesg_out.txt
[21:53] <Toa> I know this is a basic question, but my mind is failing me.  I'm trying to run an instance of Thunderbird on a different Ubuntu partition and home directory.  How would I best go about this? Chroot?
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Toa: could work, sounds ok to me
[21:54] <fluitfries> allu3, http://pastebin.com/mwCxNxss
[21:55] <allu3> fluitfries: is your usb stick Verbatim STORE N GO
[21:55] <fluitfries> allu3, yes
[21:55] <gavin__> how do I boot from the USB?
[21:55] <allu3> fluitfries: its 32GB usb stick?
[21:55] <fluitfries> allu3, yes
[21:56] <allu3> fluitfries: ok so if you have some stuff in it you want to keep backit up now ^^
[21:56] <gavin__> I have gone into the BIOS settings but can't find USB for the boot order
[21:56] <fluitfries> allu3, nope, i can wipe it
[21:56] <gavin__> how do I boot from the USB?
[21:56] <Toa> ActionParsnip, now I just have to figure out why it's not working
[21:56] <allu3> fluitfries: next go to terminal and write sudo dd if=/path/to/your/iso/file of=/dev/sdb
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Toa: what isthe output when you run:  thunderbird
[21:57] <gavin__> hello
[21:57] <allu3> fluitfries: you want to be careful when writing the /dev/sdb if you write wrong you might render your computer useless :P
[21:57] <allu3> fluitfries: then let the command finnish it may take a while 5-15min usually
[21:57] <gavin__> hello
[21:58] <NativeAngels> im trying to install ubuntu on a dell poweredge 1500sc
[21:58] <fluitfries> allu3, it's copying
[21:58] <allu3> fluitfries: good, this method has always worked for me :)
[21:58] <NativeAngels> dont know what version will work on it
[21:58] <fluitfries> allu3, don't i need an mbr or something?
[21:59] <allu3> fluitfries: i haven't needed :P it has just worked out of the box with that
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> NativeAngels: grab Precise. It is supported til 2017
[21:59] <fluitfries> allu3, i think it is currently a fat32 as well if i remember ok
[21:59] <macmartine> What's the difference between kill -9 and kill -USR2 ?
[22:00] <allu3> fluitfries: i think it just writes the iso image directly on the device without caring of the mbr resulting in something like when you burn a iso to CD
[22:00] <allu3> i guess
[22:00] <fluitfries> allu3, kk
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> macmartine: I'm not seeing a -U -S or -R option in the man page for kill
[22:00] <gavin__> hellp
[22:00] <allu3> fluitfries: but you really need to be careful with the dd command, wrong device and its kk for all your files :P
[22:01] <gavin__> how do I boot from USB pen drive?
[22:01] <gavin__> I'm having trouble at the moment
[22:01] <fluitfries> allu3, all done now
[22:01] <allu3> gavin__: stick the drive to the pc, start up pc and go to bios
[22:01] <allu3> gavin__: go to boot options and select usb or the name of your usb drive
[22:01] <allu3> fluitfries: now just try it out :D
[22:02] <gavin__> allu3: I have boot order but not boot options
[22:02] <allu3> gavin__: what is the boot order?
[22:02] <gavin__> I don't know
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> macmartine: so the difference is, one works and one doesn't :)
[22:02] <gavin__> oh
[22:03] <gavin__> allu3: floppy diskette drive, atapi cd-rom drive, hard drive and network adapter
[22:04] <macmartine> ActionParsnip: Weird. it's here http://wiki.nginx.org/CommandLine
[22:04] <gavin__> alluc3: thats the list
[22:04] <allu3> gavin__: do you have selection "hard drives" anywhere?
[22:04] <fluitfries> allu3, "isolinux.bin missing or corrupt"
[22:04] <gavin__> allu3: yes I have hard drive in the boot order
[22:04] <hmmwhatsthisdo> gavin__: usually there's an option to manually select the boot device on most motherboards/BIOSes - what motherboard do you use?
[22:04] <gavin__> I don't know
[22:05] <allu3> fluitfries: o.o um what iso file it was ?
[22:05] <gavin__> do I boot from the hard drive since there is not a USB?
[22:05] <allu3> fluitfries: and one problem might be your usb stick being 32gb not sure all bios can recognize it well
[22:05] <fluitfries> allu3, lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[22:05] <allu3> gavin__: nope
[22:05] <Cracked_Lucidity> gavin__ : if you use unetbootin to make a bootable usb drive it should select it by default
[22:05] <allu3> gavin__: it seems that your pc doesn't support booting from usb
[22:05] <gavin__> oh, which there isn't
[22:05] <gavin__> in this case
[22:06] <Evdb> hey guys, huge problem
[22:06] <kostkon> gavin__, how old is your pc, in years
[22:06] <fluitfries> allu3, i burned the image to cd and it booted ok.
[22:06] <gavin__> 8 years
[22:06] <fluitfries> allu3, but for this pc i need usb boot
[22:06] <gavin__> brought it in 2004
[22:06] <allu3> fluitfries: hum don't you have smaller usb stick?
[22:06] <fluitfries> allu3, i can make a smaller partition
[22:06] <allu3> fluitfries: i really begin to think the huge size might be the problem
[22:07] <gavin__> kostkon: 8 years
[22:07] <fluitfries> allu3, but what filesystem and partition map should i be using?
[22:07] <Evdb> I was running Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro after a lot of struggling, then I installed an Nvidia driver and everything effed up. Now I'm back to zero. When I try to boot from USb I get busybox, what is it and what's the solution? Need Ubuntu for exams in one week D:
[22:07] <allu3> fluitfries: fat32 is most certain
[22:07] <gavin__> kostkon: should I make a cd from it then?
[22:07] <fluitfries> allu3, ok, i'll try smaller partition
[22:07] <kostkon> gavin__, yes, so yeah it seems that it doesn't support booting from usb devices. burn a cd or dvd
[22:07] <allu3> well i'm off to bed, see ya
[22:08] <fluitfries> allu3, ty
[22:08] <gordonjcp> gavin__: be careful when you prepare the USB stick, that it has the right partition types and they're set bootable and all that
[22:08] <Cracked_Lucidity> evdb : format the drive externaly and start over?
[22:08] <Evdb> which drive?
[22:08] <gordonjcp> gavin__: or, like I said earlier, remove the drive, stick it in something else, and install there
[22:08] <Cracked_Lucidity> the harddrive
[22:08] <new[]> What's going on??? I just installed 12.04LTS fresh, and the dasher doesn't work.. It constantly shows "no results" for anything I type, and pressing [Enter] int the Alt+F2 run command does nothing!?
[22:09] <gavin__> I also want to know which version I'm using for this PC
[22:09] <Evdb> Hmm that's not really an option and I kinda already did, I only have my MAC OS X partition and unallocated space for Ubuntu cracked_lucidity
[22:09] <Medjai> can anyone pastebin for me from Ubuntu 12.10  /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/bash_completion
[22:09] <kostkon> gavin__, version of ubuntu?
[22:09] <gavin__> yes
[22:09] <Linuxuser> I need help booting my flash drive. Everytime I select the USB to boot it takes me to GRUB
[22:09] <kostkon> gavin__, give in a terminal:  cat /etc/lsb-release
[22:09] <kostkon> gavin__, or open your system monitor
[22:10] <Cracked_Lucidity> Evdb: no clue then
[22:10] <Evdb> Does anyone know how to get rid off busybox, preventing me from booting into live USB Ubuntu?
[22:10] <linusasus6> can we install steam now and how please?
[22:10] <Guest26692> Can someone help me boot my flash drive? I'm trying to boot pear linux
[22:10] <fluitfries> lol errbody hasn probs with usb boot right now
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Evdb: did you MD5 test the ISO you put on the USB?
[22:11] <Evdb> ActionParsnip can you explain that to me? I'm not familiar with that
[22:11] <kostkon> linusasus6, not yet
[22:11] <Guest26692> anyone?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Evdb
[22:11] <linusasus6> kostkon when
[22:12] <Evdb> ActionParsnip but I have a Mac :s But I'll take a look ty
[22:12] <kostkon> linusasus6, i don't know, the beta will arrive soon but it's going to be available for 1000 testers only i think. maybe in 2-3 months
[22:12] <Medjai> ActionParsnip: Can I ask you to pastebin for me from Ubuntu 12.10 /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/bash_completion sorry but I think these files are incorrect and they will fix my error
[22:12] <new[]> What's going on??? I just installed 12.04LTS fresh, and the dasher doesn't work.. It constantly shows "no results" for anything I type, and pressing [Enter] in the Alt+F2 run command does nothing!?
[22:13] <Guest26692> Hello? I can't get my computer to boot my flash drive. It did it earlier today and now it just takes me to GRUB
[22:13] <kostkon> linusasus6, if you want to open a discussion about it, you can do it in #ubuntu-ot :P
[22:14] <Guest26692> no one?
[22:14] <gordonjcp> !patience | Guest26692
[22:14] <linusasus6> no is ok I was just wondering if it was avaible nixie pixel talk about it I tought is was out
[22:14] <Guest26692> I know gordonjcp
[22:14] <daviddoria> I am trying to install a driver from "additional drivers". When I click "activate", I get "unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages". Any ideas how to fix that?
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: sure
[22:15] <kostkon> linusasus6, it's #ubuntu-offtopic sorry
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313734/
[22:16] <linusasus6> is ok was just asking
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest26692: tried pressing F11 or F12 to bring up the one time boot menu, to then choose the USB
[22:17] <linusasus6> I have reinstall ubuntu 12.04 and now no bug it was cinnamon the bug I think the ppa was not good so install mate instead it work well now
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> linusasus6: mate and cinammon aren't supported here
[22:18] <new[]> I just installed 12.04LTS fresh, and the dasher doesn't work.. It constantly shows "no results" for anything I type, and pressing [Enter] in the Alt+F2 run command does nothing??
[22:18] <Cracked_Lucidity> ActionParsnip: you understood that :O
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Cracked_Lucidity: half
[22:19] <ChogyDan> i sending a large amount of data over the network, and it stopped working.  Both my cpu cores have 95%+ iowait.  I think I stopped the process, but my cpus are still in io wait.  Any ideas beyond rebooting?
[22:19] <zeeegis> labas
[22:19] <new[]> ChogyDan: instead of `reboot` ... try `shutdown -r now`
[22:19] <new[]> ^_^ xD
[22:20] <adam_> I need help booting my flash drive. I'm trying to boot Pear Linux and everytime I select my flash drive to boot it takes me to GRUB
[22:20] <linusasus6> I'm on ubuntu since the 6.06 I switch to linux mint when I saw 11.04 and now that we have mate I switch back to ubuntu
[22:20] <adam_> Yeah I just used MATE as well and switched
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> adam_, You know how to get to the outside of the boot menu?
[22:20] <aiFrantz> linusasus6: mind trying cinnamon... I think it is much cooler than MATE
[22:21] <adam_> wilee-nilee: BIOS?
[22:21] <Cracked_Lucidity> ActionParsnip remember multibabel?
[22:21] <linusasus6> aiFrantz cinnamon buggy on ubuntu 12.04
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> adam_, YOU can set the usb boot from the bios and there is a key press to get you to a menu outside of the bios.
[22:21] <new[]> Guest26692: check your BIOS to ensure that the flash USB is set to boot before the HDD
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> linusasus6: its a 3rd party app, not supported here
[22:22] <zeeegis> %time out
[22:22] <adam_> wilee-nilee: how do I do that?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> new[]: mv ~/.local/share/zeitgeist ~/.local/share/zeitgeist_old     reboot to test
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> adam_, Mine is f12 like you would going to the bios, yours may be different.
[22:22] <aiFrantz> linusasus6: is it really really buggy? how long? I've been in Arch for a while..
[22:22] <linusasus6> is ok I understand the ppa is not official anyway so is not stable
[22:22] <new[]> ActionParsnip: yeah, i might try ... but i can't even get a terminal ??
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> new[]: press CTRL+ALT+T
[22:23] <new[]> ok
[22:23] <adam_> I've tried going to BIOS and making the flash drive boot first and it doesn't work. I was able to boot from my flash drive earlier today with no problems.
[22:23] <adam_> And on the computer it says flash drive is part of the HDD group
[22:23] <brandtone> ?
[22:24] <gavin__> how do I boot from the CD?
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> adam_, Some computers use f12 some other keys you can look on the web for the boot from menu for your setup, or post it here if you don't find it and we can try.
[22:24] <gavin__> I'm having a trouble doing it
[22:24] <gavin__> everytime I boot from CD, it keeps going back to 10.10
[22:24] <linusasus6> hit esc or f12 at start
[22:24] <gavin__> ok
[22:24] <adam_> wilee-nilee: I've tried before. It's an HP pavilion a6109n
[22:24] <gavin__> its a laptop, do I still press the same
[22:25] <aiFrantz> try to hit <<Del>> or <<F8>>. If you're lucky enough.. heh
[22:25] <linusasus6> ya is for go to the boot loader
[22:25] <malkauns> how do i get rid of video tearing? i'm using nvidia
[22:25] <gavin__> hello
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> adam_, I think the HP is esc
[22:25] <adam_> yeah that's the boot menu
[22:25] <adam_> Then I select my flash drive from the boot menu and it takes me to GRUB
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> adam_, How did you load the usb, and did you do a md5sum on the ISO?
[22:26] <adam_> no. I used unetbootin to but the iso onto it
[22:26] <adam_> put*
[22:26] <aiFrantz> adam_: the simplest explanation came to my head is - redo the liveUSB. if LiveUSB can't, try to make the USB from fat32 to cdfs
[22:26] <gavin__> hello
[22:26] <gavin__> I need helping installing 12.10
[22:27] <adam_> what do you mean by redo the liveUSB
[22:27] <robbie> how can I diagnose intermittent network issues?
[22:27] <aiFrantz> malkauns: this might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/125245/how-do-i-stop-video-tearing-nvidia-prop-driver-non-compositing-window-manager
[22:27] <robbie> my network is bouncing around like a hyperactive child :)
[22:27] <malkauns> aiFrantz, thx will take a look
[22:28] <aiFrantz> adam_: I mean, re-burn it again. try to use diff software, or try dd the USB drive. tell me if you're in m$ win then I'll give you the link
[22:28] <linusasus6> usually it work really well but I remember got lot of problem trying to install linux distro on hp laptop, the best brand at the moment I try without bug is ASus and fujitsu
[22:28] <adam_> I used the mac version of unetbootin to do it
[22:28] <adam_> and I already tried doing it again
[22:28] <Cracked_Lucidity> adam_ if you have a windows machine handy try using imgburn
[22:29] <Medjai> ActionParsnip: it didn't pastebin properly look at the link you gave me
[22:29] <adam_> k
[22:29] <adam_> brb
[22:29] <aiFrantz> good luck trying then adam_
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> adam_, The only thing I would say here as well is that that OS does not have as wide and large amount of support as ubuntu, this channel would not help you for one.
[22:30] <linusasus6> ?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: each link in the pastebin is the file above it
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313731/   is /etc/bash.bashrc
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313733/   is   /etc/bash_completion
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: its thatsimple
[22:31] <brandtone> i'm at preschool lvl using linux/ubuntu 12.10. a different world i need some direction in. i think i've been hacked..anyway to lock it down, or tell if i have been?
[22:31] <tensorpudding> disconnect the machine from the internet, done
[22:31] <Medjai> ActionParsnip: lol sorry I just took a quick look saw a few lines and just said "hey that can't be it"
[22:31] <zeeegis> QUIT
[22:31] <brandtone> lol, yeah, that's one option for sure
[22:32] <tensorpudding> you might still have a keylogger or something running, but if it can't phone home it's useless
[22:32] <Cracked_Lucidity> brandtone: at the first sign of a hack, yank all the internet cables
[22:32] <gordonjcp> brandtone: why do you think it has been broken into
[22:32] <gordonjcp> Cracked_Lucidity: nah, that's a bad idea
[22:32] <gavin__> i cant seem to install ubuntu
[22:32] <brandtone> it's all wireless
[22:32] <aiFrantz> if you know which plug connects the power cord, consider turn it off... simplest solution
[22:32] <gordonjcp> Cracked_Lucidity: many rootkits will start deleting stuff if you kil their connection
[22:32] <gavin__> hello
[22:32] <gordonjcp> Cracked_Lucidity: also, "crack" not "hack" please
[22:33] <tensorpudding> if the problem is a rootkit than it's unlikely that this person would notice it
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, You will have to give some details for help.
[22:33] <tensorpudding> (linux rootkits are really rare in any event)
[22:33] <gavin__> basically, there is a black screen with an _ flashing
[22:33] <linusasus6> how is possible been hack on linux I tough is was 90% secure
[22:33] <brandtone> i came here for help not ridicule. sry, as i said, i'm really new to this
[22:34] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: bthere is a black screen with an _ flashing
[22:34] <gordonjcp> brandtone: well, I asked a pretty straightforward question I thought
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, This on the live cd after choosing to try it out?
[22:34] <Cracked_Lucidity> brandtone, i simply told you what i do
[22:34] <gordonjcp> brandtone: what makes you think it's been broken into, first?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: yes, that's it. You can see me pastebining the files...... think about it
[22:34] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: its not going anywhere, other than the black screen
[22:34] <rootpt> Hellows ;)
[22:35] <Cracked_Lucidity> i can always recover a hastily deleted file
[22:35] <aiFrantz> it is possible when the user remove the sudo authentication, and installed stray debs from warez.. yeah, I think
[22:35] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, So if you boot the live cd you get nothing but a black screen with a blinking cursor?
[22:35]  * rootpt Halô
[22:35] <gordonjcp> aiFrantz: you can't rule out use stupidity and installing trojan horses
[22:35] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: yes, that is what I'm saying
[22:35] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: it is also a 12.10 version that I'm trying to install
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | gavin__
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, I would do a md5sum on the disc, and ISO, you should be getting a gui with choices, also make sure the cd is burned as an image at a slow speed.
[22:36] <gordonjcp> brandtone: anything?
[22:36] <brandtone> ok, i rec'd an email from our network on wifes desktop, stating that i had signed up for their site a child care site. i did not, nor did wife, although she is  in the business
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | gavin__
[22:37] <gordonjcp> brandtone: oh, that's almost certainly just spam
[22:37] <robbie> how can I diagnose intermittent network issues?
[22:37] <brandtone> the email had may use name which included my last name, which is not in her email address
[22:37] <gordonjcp> brandtone: are you *sure* it was from your network, and not just forged to have your sender address?
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> robbie: when you get the issue, run:  dmesg | tail -n 20
[22:38] <brandtone>  and the password was my paypal and ebay passord and the ending was my house alarm code
[22:38] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: I don't understand what I should do?
[22:38] <gordonjcp> brandtone: actually, are you using Thunderbird or similar?  Can you do "view source" on the message and stick it in a pastebin?
[22:38] <gordonjcp> hmm maybe not if it's got your passwords in ti
[22:38] <Cracked_Lucidity> he can edit out the sensitive information
[22:38] <michealPW> That sounds weird hehe
[22:38] <gordonjcp> brandtone: so this email, this has actually got passwords you use on certain websites in?
[22:38] <brandtone> i do use it, but mostly gmail, but this came to her computer
[22:38] <Toa> ActionParsnip, the output of chroot was "no such file or directory".  I feel I'm missing something basic when trying to run Thunderbird
[22:39] <brandtone> yes
[22:39] <gordonjcp> brandtone: is it possible your accound details have been phished?
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, Follow the link to do a md5sum check, this makes sure the cd matches a hash file and is basically correct. I suggested several things so it helps if you name what you don't understand. ;)
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> Toa: try running it absolutely with:  /usr/bin/thunderbird
[22:39] <brandtone> and my home alarm password at the end
[22:39] <gordonjcp> brandtone: end of what?
[22:40] <LinnuxN00b_312> If I am running Cinnamon over 12.04, with a lot of CompizFusion effects customized to my liking, when I upgrade to 12.10, will I lose all of this?
[22:40] <brandtone>  the end of my paypal password and ...
[22:40] <gordonjcp> brandtone: ask yourself this; have you ever typed your alarm password into your computer for any reason?
[22:40] <michealPW> brandtone: I always suggest that you never enter that kind of information in a computer at all.. :\
[22:40] <brandtone> no, never, nor have i, or would ever give it out even to my mother
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> LinnuxN00b_312, My bet would be yes, the cinnamon is from a PPA right?
[22:40] <XiaolinDraconis> wifey is prankin u
[22:41] <michealPW> That is weird
[22:41] <gordonjcp> brandtone: so you've never entered your alarm password into the computer, and presumably your alarm is not connected to the computer?
[22:41] <LinnuxN00b_312> I think so, I had to add a separate repository to install.
[22:41] <gordonjcp> brandtone: that sounds like a coincidence, tbh
[22:41] <brandtone> no
[22:41] <michealPW> brandtone: The company you get your alarm services from, they don't have some silly iPhone app, do they? :\
[22:41] <robbie> ActionParsnip: I have been looking, there is no consistent error msg before "NetworkManager: <info> (eth0): carrier now OFF (device state 100, deferring action for 4 seconds)"
[22:42] <aiFrantz> wilee-nilee if the cinnamon on the separate repo (ppa), what kind of issue will pop out? dependencies error?
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> LinnuxN00b_312, Upgrades are supposed to turn off all repos but stock ones, I would stay with 12.04 if it were me it is supported for 5 years. Or clone the 12.04 first to have a backup to be sure you are covered.
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> robbie: ok, look online see what that means
[22:42] <Toa> ActionParsnip, ah, of course.  Now I'm getting a string of "no protocol specified" errors followed by "Error: cannot open display: :0.0" and a couple more "No protocol specified".  Is that an Xorg error?
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> aiFrantz, PPA's are turned off in upgrades.
[22:43] <michealPW> Yea I'm sticking with 12.04 LTS. I've added/customized so much hehe
[22:43] <JoeBlacken> hi, any one can point me for a documentation on what are the differences between regular mode and safe mode?
[22:43] <LinnuxN00b_312> Well, I was wondering because I am about to clean install 12.10, and wanted to know if I would run into issues when there is another version in 5 months or so. Thank you!
[22:43] <brandtone> it's just that my last name is used in the alloted user name (which was never in her email add) and our password for paypal is used with home alarm password at end for the password alloted by site nvr signed up for
[22:43] <aiFrantz> wilee-nilee, OK... I'll choose to stay if that so. 12.04 is an LTS btw..
[22:44] <XiaolinDraconis> is there anyway to force ubuntu to look in ~/.icons and ~/.themes ?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Toa: possibly, maybe X apps can't run in a chroot. Its not something I've tried
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> aiFrantz, I mentioned it was covered for 5 years, that not enough for you.
[22:44] <robbie> ActionParsnip: it just means that the iface went down, ActionParsnip .. it doesnt mean any particular thing is causing it
[22:44] <LinnuxN00b_312> Here is my last question. Is there anyway to force Ubuntu to become like a rolling-release distro?
[22:44] <trism> XiaolinDraconis: it already does, what is the issue?
[22:45] <XiaolinDraconis> trism, themes dont appear in the appearances menu
[22:45] <michealPW> brandtone: Let me try and understand the situation better. So, your wife has a public email such as Gmail/Yahoo and you use a program such as Thunderbird to get/send email, or do you use the web-interface (http://mail.google.com, for example) ??
[22:45] <trism> XiaolinDraconis: yes, the themes in Appearance are hardcoded, use gnome-tweak-tool or similar
[22:45] <aiFrantz> LinnuxN00b_312, nope.. you can't
[22:45] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: I don't know how to get to the md5sum?
[22:45] <brandtone> yes
[22:45] <michealPW> brandtone: So, you use a desktop client like Thunderbird or the web-interface?
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | gavin
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Toa: if you mount the other partition and symlink the profile to the ~/.mozilla/thunderbrd folder (alongside the other). It may work (you may need to add it in the config to read the 'new'profile)
[22:46] <LinnuxN00b_312> aiFrantz: Damn. Looks like I am going to migrate from Sabayon, to Ubuntu, to get virtualbox working, to migrate to Arch.
[22:46] <LinnuxN00b_312> I have to perfect, and rewrite their install wiki, since it is total garbage right now!
[22:46] <XiaolinDraconis> trism, i used the gnome-tweak(advanced settings) and it doesnt properly change my cursor
[22:46] <brandtone> i only use thunderbird to send/forward pages, etc., otherwise, i use gmail and yahoo
[22:46] <kostkon> XiaolinDraconis, try with ubuntu-tweak or myunity. to install your themes and set one of them as the default.
[22:47] <trism> XiaolinDraconis: yes it won't unless you don't use compiz and use gdm, it is broken in several ways
[22:47] <LinnuxN00b_312> Is there any way to completely strip unity away, and make the Cinnamon Fork my default DE?
[22:47] <aiFrantz> LinnuxN00b_312, try Arch then... yes, the installation process is a pain the ass. I'll go for KahelOS (gnome arch) or Chakra (KDE arch) or CinnArch (Cinnamon Arch)
[22:47] <michealPW> brandtone: Okay.. So your wife recieved an email in her public gmail account, which she recieved with Thunderbird?
[22:47] <gavin__> hello
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, Check out this wiki. http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM Here is the hash comparison page, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[22:47] <trism> XiaolinDraconis: you may be able to set it system wide with a bit of work, but I don't really think it is worth it
[22:47] <Toa> ActionParsnip, I'm running in a standard terminal emulator, but I guess that makes sense as it wouldn't be able to escape the chroot jail.  Maybe I'd have to chroot the whole thing and start a separate X session.  Maybe I'm complicating things.  A symlink sounds much easier.
[22:47] <robbie> LinnuxN00b_312: apt-get purge unity  and then install cinnamon
[22:47] <Preflex> Toa:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[22:47] <LinnuxN00b_312> robbie: Sounds good!
[22:48] <Toa> Preflex, Thanks :)
[22:48] <brandtone> no, she doesn't use linux. she rec'd the email on our sbcglobal server/att
[22:48] <LinnuxN00b_312> I can do that for now, until I can work out all of the bugs out of an Arch install...
[22:48] <XiaolinDraconis> trism, copying the cursor to /usr/share/icons and setting it with the command line works even with compiz
[22:48] <eedeep> exit
[22:48] <eedeep> doh
[22:48] <LinnuxN00b_312> The install process for Cinnamon looks painless...
[22:49] <trism> XiaolinDraconis: I refer you to my second comment above
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, The problem here is that we have to start somewhere to find the problem, it could be hardware, it could be a number of different issues.
[22:49] <michealPW> brandtone: Now I'm even more confused LOL. So your wife did NOT recieve the email in a public email host like gmail, but instead of provided to you by your internet company?  :\
[22:49] <aiFrantz> Cinnamon.. yes, pretty painless but then it is still in "Alpha". Mailed the dev/founder few times and he said he'll work on it this december. He'll work on GUI installer, I guess
[22:50] <brandtone> yes, a yahoo email acct
[22:50] <michealPW> brandtone: Also, your wife doesn't use Linux? Interesting! You're sure her Windows isn't infested with spyware that's been stealing her/your personal information? Sounds really fishy, Iunno mate :\
[22:50] <robbie_> please help me with my netowrk! It is dropping every few minutes :(
[22:51] <gd515> can someone recommend a Good VPN , was thinking about SwissVPN but herd some bad things on em ?
[22:51] <brandtone> no she doesn't and yes i wouldn't doubt her windows pc is infected all over. that's why i wanted to use linux cause got sick of all that
[22:52] <michealPW> brandtone: Alright.. So your Wife received an email in her public Yahoo email... That was supposedly sent from your sbcglobal email account provided by AT&T, which had sensitive information in it? :|
[22:52] <brandtone> we use the same network, which i use wireless, but everything..tv, internet, etc is wireless
[22:52] <brandtone> yes
[22:53] <michealPW> brandtone: my advice is to be cautious. I would guess her Windows system has been comprimised and a lot of information got stolen... I would start with things like PayPal and start changing yoru passwords (From a secure Linux system while that Windows machien is turned off or disconnected from your network)
[22:53] <brandtone> ok, thanks so much
[22:53] <christian_> Having trouble with LMMS
[22:53] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: I used windows to download
[22:53] <michealPW> Then once you've done that, consider cleaning that Windows machine. Reinstall it fresh from the disk, format its main drive hehe. Best to be careful! :P
[22:54] <Toa> brandtone, Change your wireless password as well to something completely different (I presume encryption is already on)
[22:54] <brandtone> is there a way i can see if i have been compimised?
[22:54] <brandtone> yes, wpa2
[22:54] <michealPW> brandtone: but honestly, change all your passwords. Even the password for your network, set by your router and make sure all Wireless security features are enabled, like encryption.
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, That link tells you how to check the sum in windows.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Windows
[22:55] <christian_> Downloaded LMMS from the software centre and cant find it in the menu???
[22:55] <Toa> ActionParsnip, FYI, you can access graphical applications inside the chroot.
[22:55] <aiFrantz> brandtone consider hiding your wifi as well...
[22:55] <brandtone> noticed yesterday that my mouse almost had a mind of it's own and wondered if it could be a remote access
[22:55] <brandtone> i don't know how to hid my wifi
[22:56] <donnie> just upgraded from precise to quetzal, mactel lubuntu.  Screen rez is disappointingly low.  How do I increase?
[22:56] <ninux> hi there! can someone tell my how to figure out wich power-manager is running in the terminal?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> Toa: oh?
[22:56] <brandtone> can't seem to get tor running either
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, Did you burn the cd as an image at a slow speed, you might just need to burn it again if you have extra cd's or use a usb loader like unetbootin if you have a usb.
[22:57] <michealPW> brandtone: Well, there's no way to know 100% for sure, esp. with Windows. Your best bet is a fresh install. It's the safest, most sure way. You can try to manually clean it out but it's tedious and very easy to miss things :P
[22:57] <Toa> ActionParsnip, Yes.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot#Accessing_graphical_applications_inside_the_chroot
[22:57] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: yes I burned the cd using 3x that is the slowest speed the software has
[22:57] <brandtone> yeah, don't have the tech knowledge to do that either.  hate being so ignorant!
[22:57] <brandtone> trying to learn though
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> toa: ahhh nice
[22:58] <michealPW> It's also very easy for malliscious code to work around you as you're manually trying to clean the system heheh
[22:58] <Toa> brandtone, you can backup some of the files before formatting using a live CD
[22:58] <michealPW> At this point I'd be cautious. First, disconnect that Windows machine.. Then change all your passwords from a linux machine or preferably from a liveCD LOL.. Then you can reconnect that Windows machien and try to manually clean it, if you'd like a learning experience.
[22:59] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: 3x is the slowest speed
[22:59] <michealPW> Otherwise, backup your personal files and wipe the entire thing clean haha :P
[22:59] <brandtone> it's all a learning experience for me, but i get lost with the tech issues
[23:00] <brandtone> ty, i'll look at that link
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, I understand, all I can do is make some suggestions, not perform miracles. ;)
[23:00] <gavin__> ok
[23:00] <gavin__> I'll do another copy and download another piece of software to do the copy of the cd
[23:00] <robbie_> how do I get rid of the firewall from system settings? I accidentally got that reinstalling dhcp client
[23:01] <michealPW> Basically, malware on windows is pretty simple. All it is is something has reconfigured windows to start the malware when Windows starts. Essentially, all you have to do is empty the usual lists that Windows checks for things to start, then run sfc (system file checker) which will make sure nothing was physically modified and if so, replaces it from a fresh copy from your Windows CD.
[23:01] <michealPW> You can download "Autoruns" from sysinternals (sysinternals.com) which will show you all the spots windows will check to startup programs when it logs you in.
[23:03] <michealPW> You'll want to skim through your list of services too and disable services that are supplied by Windows. This is where you might have a bit of trouble knowing what you can and cannot disable though.
[23:03] <Regretfulone> how do I install Lubuntu from my Ubuntu installation? Is there a way to do this through the terminal and have it wipe out the old installation
[23:03] <robbie_> how do I get rid of the firewall from system settings? I got that reinstalling isc-dhcp-client:amd64
[23:03] <michealPW> Regretfulone: From a terminal, you can type sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[23:03] <michealPW> I think it is
[23:03] <MonkeyDust> Regretfulone  install lubuntu-desktop
[23:03] <michealPW> Maybe try apt-cache search lubuntu first
[23:04] <Regretfulone> okay thanks guys! I will try that out
[23:04] <brandtone> omg, i'm such a derelict, thanks for all you help, but i don't know what to leave running, or stop in windows..
[23:04] <MonkeyDust> Regretfulone  no need to uninstall anything... logout, select lubuntu, login
[23:05] <Regretfulone> MonkeyDust: yeah but I have limited hard drive space. It's an older computer. 40gb hdd
[23:06] <michealPW> brandtone: Do you have a Windows disk?
[23:06] <brandtone> i do, she does, but it's damaged
[23:06] <robbie_> it was gufw
[23:07] <brandtone> btw, i had windows7 on this machine and got sick of it and wanted to transfer to linux
[23:08] <brandtone> i did and now can't find windows (not that i care) on the partition.  did it get erased?
[23:08] <michealPW> Well, you can download win7 iso from Microsoft
[23:08] <neure> ufff
[23:08] <neure> 12.10 in virtual box is a joke
[23:08] <michealPW> Just make sure you download the proper one for your cd-key. Check on the side of your computer, there should be a sticker that says something like "Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit", you'll be able to download THAT iso and install it with the cd-key on that sticker.
[23:08] <brandtone> i don't want to use windows anymore. love ubuntu, but am on steep learning curve
[23:09] <michealPW> brandtone: Well, does you or your wife play games on your computers?
[23:09] <brandtone> no, but i do
[23:09] <michealPW> Hrmm. Hard to ditch Windows if you're a gamer :\
[23:10] <ninux> hi there! how do i check wich power-manager is running from terminal?
[23:10] <brandtone> yeah, not a lot on this to play, but mostly play browser games anyway
[23:10] <michealPW> I still lug around a Windows 7 installation on this computer, I dual-boot for when I want to play games hehe. I just stripped that Windows, removing every component that's not required to play games :P
[23:10] <michealPW> Well any browser-based game you could just play in Linux :P
[23:11] <brandtone> sweet.  wish i knew how to do all that.  yeah, i do play them on linux
[23:11] <michealPW> Oh, well, maybe you could just replace the Windows all together with Ubuntu heehee :)
[23:12] <brandtone> "Soul of Guardian" is one i play quite a bit.  not the best, but not bad
[23:13] <brandtone> it's crazy cause i have a 691GB file, which i presume is holding windows hostage, but can't access
[23:13] <Toa> michealPW,  I know, but I'm doing all right with PlayOnLinux
[23:13] <Regretfulone> just tried logging in and got this error- Could not connect to session bus
[23:14] <brandtone> that's why i wonder if the linux assumed master and erased the windows os
[23:14] <michealPW> Huh?
[23:14] <brandtone> alright by me, but the space left to use is not even large enough to do back ups
[23:15] <michealPW> That's a pretty big file, are you sure it's that big haha?
[23:15] <ellipsis_> Does anyone have a copy of MS Visio to resave my .vsd file as a .vdx file so I can open it? Because that would be awesome. Thanks.
[23:15] <michealPW> LOL ellipsis_
[23:15] <michealPW> Sorry mate, my Visio is old :|
[23:15] <brandtone> lol, yeah, was 750gb laptop
[23:15] <michealPW> Visio 2003, I think.
[23:16] <michealPW> brandtone: That doesn't make sense. How did you install Ubuntu on that machine?
[23:16] <lec^2> i'm having an odd problem after I upgraded to quantal - I had remapped my keys to change workspaces to alt+f1-f6, but I can't access workspaces 1 or 2. 3-6 are fine, it's like alt+f1 and alt+f2 are ignored. I tried remapping the keys already, does anyone have any other suggestions?
[23:16] <michealPW> Everytime people ask about Quantal for some reason I think of that IRC client, Quassal or something LOL!
[23:17] <brandtone> originally i downloaded iso and ran it. and thereafter have done revision updates
[23:17] <michealPW> Hrmm. So you downloaded an iso, burned to a disk, restarted your computer with that disk and booted from the disk to install Ubuntu?
[23:17] <michealPW> Orr did you run the iso from inside Windows hehe?
[23:17] <michealPW> With that "Wubi" thing, or whatever.
[23:18] <brandtone> had it b4 and was able to dual boot through window bootloader, but this time it is as i said...only linux through grub
[23:18] <ellipsis_> michealPW, Yeah. I didn't consider not being able to open my file after I saved it at work. -.-
[23:18] <michealPW> 'cause I think the way Wubi works is it creates a massive "file" on your Windows drive, which contains your Ubuntu. Terrible way to install Ubuntu, IMHO :P
[23:19] <michealPW> ellipsis_: Jah, I know how you feel.  Constantly biting me in the backside :(
[23:19] <michealPW> brandtone: Nah don't feel bad. We all started somewhere, right? :)
[23:20] <michealPW> I've been hosing machines down since early in 2000 using this evil Linux distro called "Mandrake" which was supposed to be for newbies haha :|
[23:20] <swex> роо
[23:20] <brandtone> yeah, but i feel at the bottom of the barrel.  lol micheal PW
[23:21] <michealPW> Well, I've never used Wubi so I dont' have any advice. If I were to guess that's what has happened, though.
[23:21] <brandtone> i need to take some classes and buy books
[23:21] <dormito> I have a dual screen setup (1920x1080+1440x900) on Ubuntu 12.10 (through blood sweet tears and black magic I got the ati radeon propriety driver to install and work)  I want to run some programs games (specifically swtor in wine) however the... I believe its called the indicator bar, at the top (especially of the larger display) is preventing the use of nice resolutions (because its a wine program with specific desktop settings, I can not
[23:21] <dormito> maximise it). Anyhow my question is: is there a way to hide or remove the indicator bar(if not on both screens just on one)?
[23:21] <michealPW> My biggest learnign curve was switching to FreeBSD.
[23:21] <Guest84126> Mandrak has a free fork called Magei
[23:21] <mz|`> michealPW: you use mageia now ?
[23:22] <swex> о #eclipse
[23:22] <brandtone> really love the linux ideals and system though.  forever done with windows
[23:22] <michealPW> I learned so much from that system that has stayed with me and been very useful on Linux. Vim, X Server, bash, GNOME/KDE etc.
[23:22] <michealPW> The init system, although most linux doesn't use that anymore hehe but there's usually compatibility for it
[23:23] <danon> my graphics kinda seem blurry on ubuntu with a proprietary driver
[23:23] <danon> how do you fix that?
[23:23] <michealPW> mz|`: Nope, using Ubuntu 12.04 right now ?   Seriously, what "newbie friendly" system doesn't truely "copy" things when you right-click and select "copy"??? LOL
[23:25] <michealPW> I hosed all my data on that evil system :(
[23:25] <brandtone> i'm convinced not to play with it
[23:25] <michealPW> I thought I was makign copies of my data when I right-clicked, copied, pasted to a backup drive... LOL Apparently it only made symbolic links and the icons of links don't make it visibly apparent that it's just a link, not a real file :(
[23:25] <michealPW> haha such a bad experience.
[23:26] <michealPW> That was a long time ago. Linux has come so far for being nice to newbies haha :)
[23:26] <michealPW> Esp. with Ubuntu. Ubuntu's great :)
[23:27] <michealPW> danon: Have you tried changing resolutions?
[23:27] <brandtone> hey, thank you all very much for you help and patience. as little as i understood, i think i at least found a few solutions to places to start. tyvm
[23:27] <michealPW> danon: I know, obvious question but I had to ask :P
[23:27] <michealPW> np brandtone. Good luck with your woes :)
[23:27] <michealPW> Remember, change those passwords!
[23:27] <michealPW> Esp. your home alarm, jeepers.
[23:28] <brandtone> ok, yes, thank a lot. first thing i am going to do
[23:29] <michealPW> Then maybe ditch Windows haha. It's the easy scapegoat but I'm thinking spyware got it somewhere, probably Windows :P
[23:29] <XiaolinDraconis> i shared a directory, it was a an ext4 partition with my media on it, my girls laptop cant seem to access it, although sharing folders like ~/Video work just fine
[23:29] <michealPW> malware on Linux is just so rare... So extremely rare, no home user would have to worry about it :P
[23:32] <XiaolinDraconis> well apparently its working just fine now, maybe, gonna test sharing the entire partition now
[23:32] <asdf__> eloha. Previously (pre Ubu 12) I have used to extensivly use complete on own bash hacks. I.e. "complete -F _apt_get z" Where z is alias to a script that tee everything that happens during install. Problem is that in Ubu 12.10  is that ie apt-get completion is not loaded into env until it is used. A good thing I guess when it comes to resources, but how to force load/or use same load as apt-get?
[23:33] <ellipsis_> michealPW, Meh. I'll think of something I guess. Anyway. See you around.
[23:33] <michealPW> Take care :)
[23:33] <michealPW> Sorry I couldn't be of more use :P
[23:34] <asdf__> I.e. "complete -p apt-get" yield "complete -F _apt_get apt-get" Thus "complete -F _apt_get BLAH" links _apt_get to BLAH.
[23:34] <michealPW> Over my head, asdf__ hehe
[23:34] <michealPW> I'm not even sure I understand the question :(
[23:35] <Hatori> hard to understand
[23:35] <vernon> I just got done installing ubuntu 12.10. I have a nvidia card, and I noticed x was using the nouveau drivers. When I instalked the proprietary nvidia drivers, It screwed up my screen, so that I could not see the sidebar or anything. When nouveau is running, iI notice a thin pink line on the leftside of my monitor. How do I fix this?
[23:35] <asdf__> michealPW: :), OK. In terminal. When you enter ie. $ sudo apt-get install foo<tab><tab>, you get all packages starting with foo
[23:35] <box> hello friends
[23:35] <Hatori> hello box
[23:36] <danon> Hey vernon i had the same problem
[23:36] <michealPW> Oh right, I'm following you now.
[23:36] <tdoggette> What's the most minimal app launcher/switcher that I could use on an old computer
[23:36] <tdoggette> ?
[23:36] <asdf__> this is complete. "$ complete -p some_command" yield what auto script this command is linked to
[23:36] <vernon> danon: is there a fix.
[23:36] <tdoggette> It's a G3 iMac with 192MB of RAM
[23:36] <michealPW> tdoggette: A complee DE you mean? I would suggest either LXDE or XFCE. They're both light-weight desktops.
[23:36] <tdoggette> It's got LXDE
[23:37] <michealPW> LXDE is lighter than Xfce, but Xfce is pretty hot :)
[23:37] <yeats> tdoggette: if you're looking for a packaged ubuntu distro, you might try lubuntu
[23:37] <tdoggette> I want to go slimmer
[23:37] <michealPW> tdoggette: If that's too much, go with OpenBox
[23:37] <danon> Vernon- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[23:37] <michealPW> It's really got no desktop or anything at all, you right-click and get a context menu and from there you do everything.
[23:37] <michealPW> Extremely lightweight, hehe. Very functional, though :P
[23:37] <danon> use sudo apt-get jockey-common
[23:37] <asdf__> on pre Ubuntu 12 one could simply say "complete -F ..." where ... is result from complete -p, i.e. _apt_get
[23:38] <helpmee> I'm trying to reinstall grub after installing windows.  I did "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" but got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313893/ , what does it mean?
[23:38] <skeeter_> Can someone give me some advise on repairing ubuntu
[23:38] <skeeter_> if so pm me please
[23:38] <tdoggette> michealPW, it's for a living room PC. Just needs VLC, FireFox, Abiword and a clear way to open, close, and switch them for non-nerds
[23:38] <yeats> !pm ] skeeter_
[23:39] <yeats> !pm | skeeter_
[23:39] <vernon> Thank you! I will reinstall and use that guide
[23:39] <tdoggette> michealPW, and it does that fine with LXDE, I just want something that uses no resources
[23:39] <michealPW> tdpggette: Exactly. OpenBox. It's quite literally a black screen. You right-click somewhere in the black screen an dyou get a little menu. At the top is "Web Browser", "Mail" etc. and you can launch programs from that right-click menu.
[23:39] <asdf__> danon: Was that for me? "use sudo apt-get jockey-common"
[23:39] <skeeter_> I'm a noob to linux been running ubuntu for a little wile
[23:40] <skeeter_> I did a clean up and now my computer boots to a terminal type screen
[23:40] <yeats> skeeter_: what do you mean by "clean up"?
[23:40] <michealPW> tdoggette: sudo apt-get install openbox
[23:40] <skeeter_> need to know if I can restore without loosing everything
[23:40] <michealPW> I think you'll like it! :)
[23:40] <tdoggette> michealPW, I'll check it out. Might need to compile my own for the PPC
[23:41] <michealPW> skeeter_: What do you mean by a clean-up ?
[23:41] <Hatori> skeeter_, what do you want to restore ?
[23:41] <michealPW> tdoggette: Ah, PPC.. Not sure, mate.
[23:41] <Frost666> hi
[23:41] <skeeter_> 1 sec I'll give the exact
[23:42] <tdoggette> michealPW, Might be someone somewhere is running a repo
[23:42] <helpmee> I'm trying to reinstall grub after installing windows.  I did "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" but got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313893/ , what does it mean?