[00:00] <azexia1> dr_Willis: my first post had the dmesg output, there is no device made
[00:00] <gnuB_Chris> what is command line for rebooting hardy?
[00:00] <Seveas> azexia1, wouuld you mind giving a link to that post?
[00:00] <dr_Willis> azexia1,  from what i recall researching  'sd' cards normally work. - but it depends on the interface the laptop has to the reader.. my last laptop actually used the 'usb' interface for the reader.  My other laptop used some TexasInstruments interface. (from what i learned from lspci)
[00:00] <azexia1> Seveas: i mean do they normally work? it's a new device so two unknowns i'm afraid, 1) card 2) card reader then it could be software
[00:00] <Seveas> gnuB_Chris, sudo reboot
[00:01] <Seveas> azexia1, and pastebin the output of lspci
[00:01] <Seveas> dr_Willis, yeah the t-i ones suck
[00:01] <gnuB_Chris> I tried that...it returns input/output error.  system booted in RO mode
[00:01] <Seveas> gnuB_Chris, sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[00:01] <gnuB_Chris> i can su to root and try with the sam results
[00:01] <Seveas> then reboot
[00:02] <Shujah> I thought ? can't be unmounted?
[00:02] <Shujah> */*
[00:02] <maxen_> what is the different between ubuntu and kubuntu? >>>> I am new in linux thanks
[00:02] <Seveas> Shujah, / can't be unmounted, but -o remount,rw will only make it read-write
[00:02] <jbroome> maxen_: gnome vs kde
[00:03] <Seveas> maxen_, different desktop environment
[00:03] <IndyGunFreak> maxen_: gnome and kde
[00:03] <IndyGunFreak> different gui
[00:03] <Buckland7777> when i try to install java, it gives me an error: there's no space left. I'm running from a live cd, so is there any way i can install java to a flash card?
[00:03] <Buckland7777> sorry
[00:03] <Shujah> ok
[00:03] <Buckland7777> if anyone respondd
[00:03] <gnuB_Chris> ..sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[00:03] <IndyGunFreak> maxen_: google for screenshots of both, and pertty much what you see, is the difference
[00:03] <Buckland7777> i didn't scroll down
[00:03] <Seveas> gnuB_Chris, is this a usbdisk install?
[00:03] <maxen_> thanks guys ^_^
[00:03] <yojesus> ’╗┐Shujah: ty
[00:04] <Shujah> yojesus, sounds working?
[00:04] <yojesus> yeah thx
[00:04] <azexia1> dr_Willis: Seveas others.. http://pastebin.com/d1c9445e1
[00:04] <Buckland7777> anyone know how to install java to a custom location?
[00:05] <casey_> I'm having a problem during boot and shutdown. After it shows the GRUB is starting message, it doesn't show the Ubuntu bootscreen and when I'm shutting down it doesn't shutdown. It just goes black and I have to turn the power off. Any ideas?
[00:05] <IndyGunFreak> !register > IndyGunFreak
[00:05] <grobda24> Buckland7777, ... can you use symlinks in that location ?
[00:05] <Seveas> azexia1, hmm... that looks like the driver is working
[00:05] <kiff^> hi to all!
[00:06] <grobda24> :)
[00:06] <Buckland7777> you're speakin a foreign language there, i'm fairly new to ubuntu, so you'll have to explain things to me
[00:06] <azexia1> Seveas: yeah, driver looks fine
[00:06] <gnuB_Chris2> sorry, gnuB_Chris failed to load the CGI.  I didn't get any new advice.
[00:06] <Seveas> gnuB_Chris2, ?
[00:06] <ompaul> !test
[00:06] <gnuB_Chris2>  mount -o remount returned sda1 write-protected, mounting read-only
[00:07] <Seveas> gnuB_Chris, is this a usbdisk install?
[00:07] <Baby_Shambl3s> ompaul: huh?
[00:07] <Buckland7777> grobda, how would i find out?
[00:07] <grobda24> Buckland7777,  ... search for help on "symbolic links" in the forums. They're a bit like shortcuts in windows (I say a bit).
[00:07] <gnuB_Chris2> no.  full install was working fine when I left work yesterday.  I can ssh to the box, but everything is RO now
[00:07] <kapace> hello, i can't seem to access the preferences on my panel, i made the icons too big and now i can't click on the panel
[00:07] <Buckland7777> ok, now that makes a little more sense
[00:07] <afallenhope> hey I was wondering if there's a way of disabling the startup sounds.. I went to the "System->Preferences->Sound" and it doesn't show any in use... but everytime I reboot I relogin
[00:08] <afallenhope> sorry I mean I hear the sounds
[00:08] <Ohzie> How do I use chmod to make a certain user unable to mount certain devices?
[00:08] <Ohzie> !chmod
[00:08] <IndyGunFreak> afallenhope: are you saving your changes?.. cuz i'ev turned off hte sounds no prob.;
[00:08] <grobda24> Buckland7777, it means that you can make it look like Java is on one place when it's really in another.
[00:08] <kapace> !panel
[00:09] <Buckland7777> i'm almost positive that i can then
[00:09] <Seveas> afallenhope, system -> admin -> loginscreen -> (tab) accesibility
[00:09] <azexia1> Seveas: so what would you suggest i do?
[00:09] <gnuB_Chris2> looks like FSTAB has a failsafe to remount in RO, but I can't seem to restart the system to clear that
[00:09] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, i thought he was referring to the login tone.. the africans humming
[00:09] <ompaul> Ohzie, that is now how you do that, you use the groups to do that: system -> admin -> users and groups
[00:09] <Seveas> azexia1, wait for the other cardreader to arrive before you draw conclusion
[00:09] <Seveas> or find a known-working cf card to test
[00:09] <Shujah> kapace, you cant right click panels
[00:09] <afallenhope> Seveas, thanks! that did it
[00:09] <ircleuser> hi, i'm new to this. I've got a question about how the ubuntu server edition will work on an older computer
[00:09] <Kagee> Is there any way i can make X (org) use every other " as ┬½ and ┬╗ ? So if i type """"", any GUI gets ┬½┬╗┬½┬╗┬½ ?
[00:09] <Ohzie> ompaul: What's the program for users and groups? Right now I have no panel. :P
[00:10] <azexia1> Seveas: sounds wise, thanks for the help =)
[00:10] <kapace> Shujah: it works for the other one
[00:10] <Seveas> gnuB_Chris2, could be that your disk went bad. Look in /var/log/kern.log
[00:10] <ompaul> Ohzie, log out and back in - should restore it
[00:10] <Buckland7777> grobda, i think i can, how would i go about doing so?
[00:10] <Ohzie> ompaul: Specifically, I'm trying to build a kiosk, so I don't want it to have a panel
[00:10] <Shujah> kapace, so in one panel top/bottom you cant right click it?
[00:10] <Ohzie> but some certain places can still be accessed and I need to make them inaccessible. :[
[00:10] <ircleuser> would the server thing work on an an a compaq presario?
[00:11] <dr_Willis> !find kiosk
[00:11] <Ohzie> Goodness gracious me!
[00:11] <ompaul> Ohzie, that is a single user the admin sorts out permissions for the future
[00:11] <Ohzie> Thank you dr_Willis
[00:11] <ircleuser> windows me?
[00:11] <dr_Willis> Ohzie,  i know that kde has some kiosk features.. not sure about gnome
[00:11] <Seveas> Ohzie, look at sabayon as well
[00:11] <ompaul> !windows | Ohzie
[00:11] <crashanddie> Hi everyone, I'm still trying to troubleshoot why my bluetooth mouse can't connect to my laptop... Anyone up for some troubleshooting ?
[00:11] <dr_Willis> Ohzie,  then there are some browser-kiosk live cd's ive seen.. and kiosk extensions for firefox.
[00:11] <Ohzie> ompaul: I don't do the windows thing. :[
[00:12] <ompaul> woops wrong tab there
[00:12] <casey_> I'm having a problem during boot and shutdown. After it shows the GRUB is starting message, it doesn't show the Ubuntu bootscreen and when I'm shutting down it doesn't shutdown. It just goes black and I have to turn the power off. Any ideas?
[00:12] <kapace> Shujah: thats right
[00:12] <Shujah> kapace, > Terminal> gconf-editor> apps> panels> toplevels> top & bottom panels <-change the size of panel
[00:12] <kapace> cause all the icons took space
[00:12] <Baby_Shambl3s> what is a kiosk?
[00:12] <ompaul> !windows > ircleuser
[00:12] <Seveas> Baby_Shambl3s, pc with limited functionality. Usually reduced to having only  a webbrowser. Used often in "internet kiosks"
[00:12] <ompaul> Baby_Shambl3s, a computer with limited functionality, in a public place
[00:13] <kapace> Shujah: ok
[00:13] <leeping2008> Hi there, I've set a disk space quota for myself and now I'm over the quota, my grace period has run out but the quota software is doing nothing to notify me! (It's a soft limit.)  What kind of notifications are there?
[00:13] <gnuB_Chris2> isn't there a way to force a restart remotely?
[00:13] <orangey> hey all!
[00:13] <anticreeps> Hey i got a question i was told i can ask here, i did pppoeconf and all ect but when i try to connect to internet it says pap authenticate fail... anyone know why?
[00:13] <ompaul> gnuB_Chris2, not without physical access guess you got to visit machine
[00:13] <orangey> I was wondering how to copy ubuntu from one harddrive to another.
[00:14] <Shujah> anticreeps, dsl or dialup
[00:14] <anticreeps> dsl
[00:14] <gnuB_Chris2> my buffer stopped again.  I don't see any responses
[00:14] <ompaul> gnuB_Chris2, not without physical access guess you got to visit machine
[00:14] <Shujah> anticreeps, pap authetication failure means your login/password doesnt match to what was allocated to you by isp
[00:14] <uatec> Hello there
[00:15] <nietoyface> buenas tardes!!!
[00:15] <anticreeps> hmm
[00:15] <uatec> i'm trying to doesome commands that require me to use sudo
[00:15] <Ohzie> orangey: wouldn't it be something like sudo cp / /media/name_for_your_other_hard_drive
[00:15] <crashanddie> When I try to pair my mouse by going into the bluetooth preferences > services > input services > add, it "sees" my mouse (only the mac address, no name), when I try to connect to it, it just sits there for a while, and then all the bluetooth windows disappear
[00:15] <uatec> but whenever i do i get: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul 13 01:00:40 2008
[00:15] <uatec> what'sup with that?
[00:16] <uatec> i've tried to do sudo -k and sudo -K to clear the timestamp but it just gives me the same messagewhen i try to do that
[00:16] <uatec> how can i fix sudo?
[00:16] <Ohzie> orangey: but after you do that you'd have to install grub to the drive and delete the /boot folder and remount the new boot partition as /boot.
[00:16] <anticreeps> i see, maybe thats it but im sure i put right password ect, i will retry
[00:16] <crashanddie> Also, when I try to use hcitool scan, it sees my mouse (BT mac address), but no name, just "n/a".   (I have installed the server edition, and then the GNOME GUI)
[00:18] <Shujah> anticreeps, see the network sign on you notification area?
[00:18] <Ohzie> Seveas: :(
[00:19] <Seveas> Ohzie, sorry, couldn't resist :)
[00:19] <uatec> better question, how can i make apt-get use the internet instead of just the CDs?
[00:19] <anticreeps> yes
[00:19] <richiefrich> ok why is there no icon to install this OS? i booted into the special graphics (is it kubuntu) i need it for linuxmce
[00:19] <Ohzie> Seveas: I assumed as much. =) Your lack of actually correcting the advice I gave orangey leads me to believe I am still awesome. So an awesome idiot, I shall be.
[00:19] <richiefrich> and i asked in #kubuntu
[00:19] <anticreeps> and it says connected 100mbps ect
[00:19] <Seveas> uatec, fix your sources.list (system -> admin -> software sources)
[00:19] <richiefrich> no one talks
[00:19] <anticreeps> id have to reboot my comp and retry
[00:20] <Shujah> uatec, open synaptic go to setting > repos and untick cd
[00:20] <Seveas> Ohzie, that would be a cool nickname, "Awesome Idiot"
[00:20] <richiefrich> i have a VIA chipset so i needed the special graphics
[00:20] <ephraim> Hey everyone
[00:20] <uatec> oh cool
[00:20] <richiefrich> and now i am booted to kde and i see no installer icon
[00:20] <ompaul> Seveas, you could register it if you wanted to ;-)
[00:20]  * ompaul runs
[00:20] <uatec> thans Seveas , Shujah
[00:20] <Shujah> anticreeps, dont reboot open it > manual config
[00:20] <Ohzie> richiefrich: Does the normal vga driver in xorg work? :(
[00:20] <Seveas> Ohzie, btw, using cp for that is wrong. You need rsync with the proper flags to copy a system and keep it usable. So idiot it is :)
[00:21] <anticreeps> <--- not pro at this, kinda noobish ;*>
[00:21] <Ohzie> Seveas: Damnit.
[00:21] <richiefrich> Ohzie: yeah i am in kkde
[00:21] <Buckland7777> what size disk does ubuntu need to install to?
[00:21] <richiefrich> Ohzie: i see no installer
[00:21] <richiefrich> Ohzie: whats the svript called
[00:21] <Ohzie> richiefrich: That's rather unfortunate, and I wish I could help. :[
[00:21] <Shujah> anticreeps, most of us here are noobs :P noobs helping noobs
[00:21] <anticreeps> :)
[00:22] <richiefrich> SO no one knows what the installer sscript is called>
[00:22] <richiefrich> ??
[00:22] <ompaul> Ohzie, or you could use dd for a bitwise copy down to partition size best done with a disk the same size or larger
[00:22] <Seveas> ompaul, you reading planet gnome?
[00:22] <ompaul> Seveas, no I guess I should
[00:22] <Ohzie> ompaul: That sounds sexy. I should write down 'dd' and look it up later.
[00:22] <ompaul> pm url
[00:22] <Ohzie> because that would be a useful tool
[00:22] <Seveas> ompaul, neh, just had a joke in mind that I won't tell now :)
[00:22] <Ohzie> orangey: I hope you're paying attention, because they're talking about how to do what you want to do
[00:22] <Seveas> Ohzie, dd is nice. I install windows with it
[00:23] <Shujah> dd can be mean :P
[00:23] <DemisM> dd was my ex
[00:23] <Seveas> Shujah, dd needs to be handled with care. It can make or break you.
[00:23] <Seveas> DemisM, locky you my ex was only AA
[00:24] <uatec> right, i'm trying to activate the driver for my graphics card, but i get the error message "the software source for the package xorg-driver-fglrx is not enabled"
[00:24] <uatec> what am i supposed to do about that?
[00:24] <orangey> ohzie: I'm listening : )
[00:24] <Shujah> uatec, go to menu > system > hardware drivers & tick your driver
[00:24] <theRealBall> how do we start icewm?
[00:25] <Seveas> theRealBall, log out, select icewm in the options in the login screen, log in?
[00:25] <uatec> restricted drivers?
[00:25] <Shujah> yeah
[00:25] <uatec> that's what i was trying to do
[00:25] <uatec> when the error came up
[00:25] <uatec> ahaha
[00:25] <Seveas> uatec, system -> admin -> software sources. Enable it :)
[00:25] <uatec> i had to enable the restricted source... :P
[00:25] <gman_> can anyone help me fix my sound pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[00:26] <uatec> dammit, i've been a .net programmer waaaay too long
[00:26] <Shujah> uatec, ok go to menu > system > preferences > appearence > visual effects and select the highest one - see what happens
[00:26] <gnuB_Chris_> ok.  the web IRC clients SUCK.  sorry for the disconnects
[00:26] <maxen_> I have problem ..... I have ubuntu and nvidia 6600 and on my winxp I did watch movie on tv out from computer and and browsing the net on my computer in sperate screen ......how can I do that in ubuntu?
[00:26] <Seveas> gnuB_Chris_, mibbit is good
[00:26] <cirkit> gman_: Please be more specific on the sound issue and someone in here may know a solution.
[00:26] <Shujah> gman_, whats wrong with sound?
[00:27] <richiefrich> no one has a clue what the installer script is called?
[00:27] <richiefrich> there has to be a dev in here
[00:27] <gman_> well installed ubuntu again and my speakers work they are new andi put n a cd and the sound dosent work still
[00:27] <crimsun> richiefrich: which installer?
[00:28] <richiefrich> crimsun: to install the os
[00:28] <crimsun> gman_: what type of speakers?  usb?
[00:28] <Seveas> richiefrich, ubiquity
[00:28] <gnuB_Chris_> so to sum up my problem again, I *think* my server failed and remounted the filesystem RO. according to fstab, this is possible.  now I want to restart the server remotely.  I can't seem to force it down
[00:28] <crimsun> richiefrich: I meant desktop or alternate/server.
[00:28] <gman_> no the kind with the green jak
[00:28] <Kagee> gnuB_Chris: sudo reboot?
[00:28] <sako> hey guys whats the best solution for alt+f2 if you get rid of gnome panels? I am using gmrun and  binded it to alt+f2 in compiz
[00:29] <Shujah> gman_ go to menu > system > preferences > sounds -- and test the diff alternatives
[00:29] <crimsun> gman_: on the wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems, there's an alsa-info.sh script.  Please download (save) it and run it using bash.
[00:29] <gnuB_Chris_> Kagee..tried sudo and su.  both return input/output error
[00:29] <richiefrich> Seveas: ok so thats the installer script
[00:29] <richiefrich> crimsun: ooh desktop
[00:29] <cirkit> gnuB_Chris_: is this a web server?
[00:30] <richiefrich> crimsun: i am installing kubuntu for linuxmce on my damn slow
[00:30] <sako> whats the best media player for ubuntu? Amarok?
[00:30] <richiefrich> VIA
[00:30] <crimsun> richiefrich: right, as Seveas mentioned, for desktop images, ubiquity is responsible.
[00:30] <gnuB_Chris_> tried mount -o remount; returns sda1 is write protected.  remounting RO.  yes.  it is a webserver
[00:30] <pierorg> hi
[00:30] <richiefrich> ty
[00:30] <pierorg> qualcuno parla italiano?
[00:30] <Seveas> !it | pierorg
[00:30] <chi> sako, which is best is an opinion.
[00:30] <edge> gnuB_chris_ > sudo halt
[00:30] <pierorg> ok thanx
[00:30] <gman_> shujah i tried that dosent work
[00:30] <sako> ?
[00:31] <Derander> Hey, I'm trying to uninstall Courier (IMAP), but accidentally deleted /etc/courier.  Now whenever I run apt-get remove courier-imap, I get errors from dpkg about a missing config file.  Is there a way I can let aptitude know that the package is gone?
[00:31] <gnuB_Chris_> will halt restart the server?
[00:31] <dr_Willis> halt = power off.
[00:31] <cirkit> gnuB_Chris_: try sudo shutdown -h now
[00:31] <dr_Willis> at least it what happends on my machines. :)
[00:31] <cirkit> gnuB_Chris_: I mean ... sudo shutdown -r now
[00:31] <Shujah> gman_, crimsun suggested a n alsa script dl/run it
[00:32] <Kagee> gnuB_Chris: Locate the server IRL and press the reset button?
[00:32] <Seveas> Derander, please pastebin the complete output
[00:32] <tj13820_> fireman1
[00:32] <gnuB_Chris_> shutdown returns IO error
[00:32] <gman_> what site would i go to??
[00:32] <Kagee> gnuB_Chris: It's probably sudo that returns the io/error
[00:32] <gnuB_Chris_> server is 300 miles from me right now.  not possible.  This is the whole reason I set up on linux...I didn't have to be there!
[00:32] <pierorg> Ok. I'll try to explain in english. I had a problem with the last update. After all, I saw a mistake in the flash-pligin. Do you have some news about this?
[00:32] <Derander> Seveas: http://pastie.org/232804
[00:32] <Light-> Hello, how can I make ls list only directories?
[00:33] <gnuB_Chris_> no.  I tried su and that still returned IO
[00:33] <Seveas> Light-, ls -d */
[00:33] <Light-> thanks Seveas
[00:33] <cirkit> gnuB_Chris_: what kind of file system is the web server on?
[00:33] <crimsun> gman_: wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems -> alsa-info.sh
[00:33] <gman_> ok ill try it
[00:34] <Seveas> Derander, edit /etc/init.d/courier-imap. Make the second line read: exit 0
[00:34] <gnuB_Chris_> file system is ext3
[00:34] <Seveas> Derander, then after removing, install it and remove it again
[00:34] <edge> sudo halt doesn't restart
[00:34] <Derander> seveas: thanks, it worked :-)
[00:34] <dr_Willis> sudo halt, would power off i belive.
[00:35] <cirkit> gnuB_Chris_: if you just type 'mount' does that also return I/O error?
[00:35] <edge> yes halt allow to shut down
[00:35] <gnuB_Chris_> mount returns options
[00:35] <cirkit> Yeah but he is getting I/O error when trying to just 'shutdown' ...that shouldn't be happening
[00:35] <r3mix> hey, im trying to fix adesklets for python 2.5, and i found the file i have to replace. the problem is, the bugged file is posix_signal.so and the fix is posix_signal.c, how to i convert it?
[00:36] <r3mix> or compile it as .so or whatever
[00:36] <Kagee> cirkit: I/O might be sudo
[00:36]  * chi kicks cirkit
[00:36] <gnuB_Chris_> Kagee.  don't think so.  I can su without any problems.
[00:36] <Kagee> gnuB_Chris: sudo mount = I/o error?
[00:36] <hatter> where do i change the color of the 'inside' of the window when a pgm opens
[00:36] <richiefrich> cirkit: you dont use ubuntu
[00:36] <Kagee> ok
[00:36] <AstralSin> anyone had a problem with firefox suddenly segfaulting?
[00:36] <richiefrich> cirkit: stop troling
[00:37] <RadarG1> hello everyone
[00:37] <cirkit> gnuB_Chris_: can you su to become root and then try to shutdown -h now ?
[00:37] <Kagee> gnuB_Chris: But then you can "su reboot"
[00:37] <cirkit> richiefrich: excuse me?
[00:37] <X3> is there a way to force evolution to segregrate emails to separate inboxes if they belong to different emails?
[00:37] <gnuB_Chris_> actually I exited su and then sudo mount and get the IO error
[00:37] <richiefrich> cirkit: you are trolling get out
[00:37] <blue112> Hello everyone, I have few problems with my ubuntu, can I get some help ?
[00:37] <cirkit> I am trolling?
[00:37] <RadarG1> I'm having an issue installing a program it it is saying something about dependacy libnet1 does that ring a bell with anyone
[00:37] <Seveas> richiefrich, could you please stop. cirkit isn't trolling
[00:38] <cirkit> richiefrich: If you have nothing beneficial to include in this channel please stay out of it when people are trying to help others.
[00:38] <blue112> Hello everyone, I have few problems with my ubuntu, can I get some help ?
[00:38] <richiefrich> Seveas: ok we will see
[00:38] <hod139> AstralSin: yes I have,
[00:38] <Seveas> !anyone | blue112
[00:38] <cirkit> Sounds like richiefrich is the troll.
[00:38] <chi> hi, how to fix my ubuntu?
[00:38] <blue112> Ok.
[00:38] <hod139> AstralSin: it started with the backported version of the flashplugin
[00:38] <Seveas> cirkit, please let it go as well.
[00:38] <Derander> seveas: d'oh, when I attempt to install postfix again, I'm getting errors.  Want me to pastie the output?
[00:38] <td123> chi, we need more info...
[00:38] <AstralSin> hod139: got a fix?
[00:38] <Seveas> chi, a hammer might help
[00:39] <Seveas> Derander, yeah
[00:39] <martyn_> Hi - could anyone recommend an web-based program similar to Referencer, for managing a searchable database of scientific papers.  Thanks in advance.  Should be in the Ubuntu repos too.
[00:39] <hod139> AstralSin: I downgraded back to flash 9
[00:39] <edge> @ chi just try with a hammer ^^
[00:39] <aquiles_> se habla espa├▒ol aqui?
[00:39] <AstralSin> hod139: k
[00:39] <chi> Seveas, edge i think you may be right =D
[00:39] <chuckf> Dell 1420's, are they good for daily use?
[00:39] <richiefrich> edge: that wont help
[00:39] <Seveas> chi, or be slightly more specific about what needs fixing :)
[00:39] <AstralSin> actually, im not sure i've upgraded flash lately
[00:39] <Seveas> !es | aquiles_
[00:39] <Shujah> <- just realized needs a whooping 85.1 mb update brb
[00:39] <BARBEESHA> guys is there any tool i can use to scan proxies?
[00:40] <BARBEESHA> windows has something called charon, is there anything like it for ubuntu?
[00:40] <Derander> seveas: http://pastie.org/232809
[00:40] <sako> I <3 UBUNTU
[00:40] <Seveas> BARBEESHA, nmap
[00:40] <andresj> hey there is a new openarena package for 0.7.7, but the -data package is not available yet. I have to get it from getdeb.net, but I think it should be put into the official repositories.
[00:40] <gnuB_Chris_> i think the problem is that the root fs loads in fstab as relatime,errors=remount-ro
[00:40] <td123> chi, so please explain your problem or don't ask at all
[00:40] <r3mix> can someone tell me how to compile a c file into a shared object
[00:41] <cirkit> gnuB_Chris_: do you have pmount installed?
[00:41] <corky> ok.. may i ask why the hell you guys removed the original TTY's from ubuntu since 7.10?!
[00:41] <corky> this is so annoying!
[00:41] <Derander> corky: ?
[00:41] <corky> especially when X fails
[00:41] <Derander> corky: like alt+f1
[00:41] <Derander> corky: ?
[00:41] <gnuB_Chris_> cirkit: no
[00:41] <Seveas> Derander, looks like you deleted lots of configfiles manually. remove all packages related to dovecot, mysql and courier and try again
[00:41] <corky> yes
[00:41] <blue112> Sometimes (often), Ubuntu crashes. Just before crashing, it says "Erreur de segmentation" (core dumped in english I guess) and close every program (nautilus, metacity, eclipse). Not all at the time, but with about 3/4 minutes between each. When I try to reboot X (ctrl + alt + backspace), I fall back in console mode, where I have a lot of errors. There I do the sysreq keys, but after few (S, R) it really crashes, and doesn't answer to
[00:41] <blue112> any key.
[00:41] <Derander> seveas: mmkay.
[00:41] <corky> Like alt+f1 Derander
[00:41] <andresj> to be clear, the openarena_0.7.7 is in the official repositories but openarena-data_0.7.7 is not there, only in getdeb.net :)
[00:41] <X3> is there a way to force evolution to segregrate emails to separate inboxes if they belong to different emails?
[00:41] <Derander> corky: they're not gone, you're experiencing a bug that I had once
[00:41] <Seveas> blue112, looks like bad memory or a corrupt harddisk
[00:42] <EnMasse187> thanks seveas
[00:42] <td123> corky: what do you mean remove corky, it is ctrl + alt + f (1-7)
[00:42] <Derander> corky: I don't remembers exactly how I fixed it, but it is fixable
[00:42] <Light-> whats a command I can use to return "2245" from "aegisub-2.1-dev-r2245/"
[00:42] <blue112> Seveas: I check my memory and my HQ twice.
[00:42] <corky> td123, i only get X
[00:42] <vvd> hey, is it possible to disable auth for nm-applet?
[00:42] <cirkit> gnuB_Chris_: You may want to make sure your fstab has this entry for that ext 3 file system of yours: rw,user,noauto,uid=500,gid=500 0  0
[00:42] <Derander> corky: Oh, that I didn't have - I just had a black screen - nevermind :x
[00:42] <cirkit> gnuB_Chris_: that way we know its not mounting as ro only
[00:42] <corky> Derander, me to
[00:42] <EnMasse187> Seveas: what IS nmap?
[00:42] <gman_> Shujah: i got to this site so far https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems do i follow the troubleshoot or will there be a link to download the driver ?
[00:43] <corky> listen.. on f7 is X, F1-F6 = nothing just like F8-F12
[00:43] <atari2600a> in synaptic, is there  a way to find a packages update history?
[00:43] <richiefrich> EnMasse187: nmap scans for open ports
[00:43] <EnMasse187> Seveas: i heard its a network mapper? i need something that scans proxies to tell me their uptime/speed see if they are working
[00:43] <corky> and jezus christ what is this channel buisy!
[00:43] <Derander> corky: ah, yeah, you're having the same problem I had
[00:43] <corky> busy*
[00:43] <EnMasse187> i dont need open ports just need to check if proxies are dead or not
[00:43] <atari2600a> = I wants to find a way to see all changes that have happened to a package
[00:43] <corky> Derander, and.. what solution worked for you? and what type of vid card do you have?
[00:43] <X3> @corky at this rate Ill be dead when someone has the time to reply
[00:43] <Derander> corky: I've got an 8800gtx in this box.  It was back with gutsy that I had the problem, so I don't remember the solution - but it involved tweaking framebuffers
[00:43] <Derander> corky: Specific, aren't I?
[00:43] <X3> Im off to enjoy life b4 that
[00:44] <chi> my ubuntu is broke how to fix mouse?
[00:44] <Seveas> EnMasse187, looks like you're trying to do illegal things. We don't support that
[00:44] <Derander> corky: once I found the solution it was fairly easy
[00:44] <td123> corky: welcome to ubuntu, the beginner friendly distro :)
[00:44] <AstralSin> hod139: how did you roll back your flash version?
[00:44] <EnMasse187> Seveas: im not
[00:44] <atari2600a> EnMasse187: ...'ping' ?
[00:44] <corky> td123, 1) i ain't an beginner, 2) i ain't welcome anymore cuz i am getting debian...
[00:44] <AstralSin> bah
[00:44] <EnMasse187> Seveas: i just want my anonymity on the internet
[00:44] <AstralSin> hod139: how did you roll back your flash version?
[00:44] <crashanddie> EnMasse187, could you please explain your problem precisely ?
[00:44] <richiefrich> AstralSin: copy an older version
[00:44] <hod139> AstralSin: using synaptic
[00:44] <EnMasse187> ping would take forever especially when you are using a list of 100+ proxies
[00:45] <blue112> Can you help me ? Do I have to explain again my problem ?
[00:45] <chi> my ubuntu mouse is moving funny
[00:45] <richiefrich> AstralSin: it is one file
[00:45] <hod139> find the package
[00:45] <edge> @chi broken mouse ???? look strange for me... must be hardware...
[00:45] <EnMasse187> i want something that can scan a LIST of proxies to see if tehy are working or not
[00:45] <atari2600a> EnMasse187: create a sh to do it for you?
[00:45] <AstralSin> richiefrich: im too drunk and lazy to do it manually
[00:45] <hod139> AstralSin: find the package, and then using the Package menu, you can force version
[00:45] <richiefrich> AstralSin: lol drunk hacking thats nice
[00:45] <EnMasse187> whats an sh?
[00:45] <chi> it works on laptop fine but not ubuntu desktop
[00:45] <richiefrich> EnMasse187: a bash script
[00:45] <gman_> shujah: i got this far https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems but i dont see a driver download
[00:45] <EnMasse187> i just got ubnutu 2 days ago
[00:46] <AstralSin> hod139: how the hell do you do it from synaptic?
[00:46] <EnMasse187> and this is my first distro...
[00:46] <EnMasse187> so i dont think i know wtf bash is
[00:46] <crashanddie> EnMasse187, check out yaph
[00:46] <gnuB_Chris_> cir:  no, the root  only has relatime, errors=remount-ro and I can't edit.  because everything is RO now.
[00:46] <atari2600a> EnMasse187: you don't possess the intelligence to have a need for a proxy
[00:46] <atari2600a> leaving now
[00:46] <Seveas> atari2600a, cut that out
[00:46] <EnMasse187> actually well i can use one on linux
[00:46] <richiefrich> AstralSin: type in a command you can do it with apt-get
[00:46] <EnMasse187> and am using one right now
[00:46] <blue112> Sometimes (often), Ubuntu crashes. Just before crashing, it says "Erreur de segmentation" (core dumped in english I guess) and close every program (nautilus, metacity, eclipse). Not all at the time, but with about 3/4 minutes between each. When I try to reboot X (ctrl + alt + backspace), I fall back in console mode, where I have a lot of errors. There I do the sysreq keys, but after few (S, R) it really crashes, and doesn't answer to
[00:46] <blue112> any key. I've checked my memory and my hard drive twice : No error found.
[00:46] <edge> @chi wireless mouse?
[00:46] <gnuB_Chris_> isn't there a run level I can escape to reboot?
[00:47] <Seveas> gnuB_Chris_, 6
[00:47] <hod139> AstralSin: start synaptic, search for flashplugin-nonfree, then use the Package menu and choose Force Version
[00:47] <chi> i think it uses wifi
[00:47] <cirkit> gnuB_Chris_: try runlevel 3
[00:47] <Shujah> gman_, copy this link http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.git;a=blob_plain;f=utils/alsa-info.sh  <M-its a script
[00:47] <crashanddie> blue112, sounds like a memory/cpu problem
[00:47] <Seveas> cirkit, 2-3-4-5 are the same in ubuntu
[00:47] <cirkit> gnuB_Chris_: Seveas ah ok, very well then.
[00:47] <blue112> crashanddie: I've check my memory. How can I know if this is my CPU ?
[00:47] <edge> @chi not wi-fi maybe bluetooth...
[00:47] <crashanddie> blue112, also, you may want to use #ubuntu-fr
[00:47] <chi> hai2u cirkit
[00:47] <AstralSin> excellent
[00:48] <chi> edge, oh ok
[00:48] <gnuB_Chris_> so my only option is to wait until somebody goes in on Monday?
[00:48] <cirkit> chi: hi
[00:48] <blue112> crashanddie: I know this channel, but at this hour... it's 01:48....
[00:48] <Seveas> blue112, this channel also has people from other timezones than CEST :)
[00:48] <K^Holtz> a while ago, i was directed to a link that helped me set a bunch of different FF settings. anyone have a link to this? it was on some type of 'getting started with ubuntu' site
[00:49] <gman_> Shujah: im at the link
[00:49] <edge> @chi it was that?
[00:49] <krsnadasa> Error inserting iwl4965 (/lib/modules/2.6.26-3-generic/updates/drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwl4965.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) any help/ideas/suggestions ?
[00:49] <Shujah> gman_, download the .sh file to some place then you have to run it
[00:49] <cirkit> gnuB_Chris_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99721
[00:49] <chi> edge, how to tell?
[00:50] <krsnadasa> Shujah: greetings
[00:50] <Seveas> krsnadasa, run this: sudo depmod -a
[00:50] <chi> mouse moves funny
[00:50] <Seveas> krsnadasa, then try again. If it still fails it's a bug.
[00:50] <Seveas> krsnadasa, also, intrepid help in #ubuntu+1
[00:51] <edge> ok you've got a signal even wireless
[00:51] <krsnadasa> Seveas: no luck :( i just compiled newest compat-wireless driver
[00:51] <Shujah> howdy krsnadasa
[00:51] <shady6507> hey guys is ikonia here tonight?
[00:51] <Seveas> krsnadasa, well that's your problem :) don't do that then
[00:51] <magic_ninja> i just set up this new printer, but for some reason whenever I print something, it says processing, then disappears off the list, however it doesn't print anything
[00:52] <Seveas> shady6507, I haven't seen him yet
[00:52] <shady6507> doh
[00:52] <krsnadasa> Seveas: lol yea but isn't there a way to fix this rather then turning the other cheek ?
[00:52]  * richiefrich waits on the SLOW kubuntu
[00:52] <Shujah> gman_, realtek?
[00:52] <cirkit> magic_ninja: how did you setup this new printer?
[00:52] <Seveas> krsnadasa, just use ubuntu-provided drivers if you don't know how to fix driver issues
[00:52] <richiefrich> cups!
[00:52] <Seveas> richiefrich, cupcakes!
[00:52] <chi> i think wifi on my ubuntu
[00:53] <richiefrich> Seveas: ahh no
[00:53] <cirkit> of course cups, but what steps did he take?
[00:53] <cirkit> it might not be using the correct drivers for all we know
[00:53] <krsnadasa> Seveas: i believe it is a module problem not a driver issue and whats the use of this channel if we don't learn ?
[00:53] <edge> @chi don't how to tell it in english but for optical mouses it sometimes depend of the "floor" where you use the mouse
[00:53] <gnuB_Chris_> shutdown returns IO error.  init 6 as sudo says must be root.  su and init 6 returns not being executed as init
[00:53] <richiefrich> then why did you ask the dumb question
[00:53] <Seveas> richiefrich, stop.
[00:53] <gman_> ok i cant find it do i use the teminal to download im new to linux??
[00:53] <krsnadasa> Shujah: i private messaged you..?
[00:53] <Seveas> you're the troll now. Stop that
[00:53] <Zikey> Hi, What is the apt command (for a server install) to check for all packages updates available ?
[00:54] <cirkit> gnuB_Chris_: can you try su instead and then try init again
[00:54] <magic_ninja> added the x7000 driver for the printer
[00:54] <richiefrich> oh i am , i am waiting on the installer script to load
[00:54] <Seveas> Zikey, apt-get -s dist-upgrade
[00:54] <Zikey> thx seveas :)
[00:54] <Seveas> (-s means simulate, won't actually update)
[00:54] <Shujah> krsnadasa, I got your pm
[00:54] <gnuB_Chris_> apt-get update will upadte your list.  then upgrade to get them all
[00:54] <magic_ninja> cirkit, what is the reccomended way to setup the printer?
[00:54] <shady6507> ok im stuck in a bad spot and dont know how to remedy, after installing ubuntu as a dual boot on a totally seperate drive than my XP, it somehow kills XP from being able to boot up. Grub gives the option for XP but when you try it it says that the file windows\system32\ntoskrnl is missing or corrupt, this has happened twice after reinstalling xp and then ubuntu again
[00:54] <krsnadasa> Zikey: apt-get update then apt-get upgrade
[00:54] <gnuB_Chris_> cirk:  I did that as su.
[00:54] <chi> edge i should put mouse on floor ?
[00:55] <Administrator> hi there can anyone tell me how to fix my grub after installing xp after ubuntu been tryin for ages here
[00:55] <cirkit> magic_ninja: what manufacturer printer is this?
[00:55] <Shujah> shady6507, use this command sudo fdisk -l on terminal < note the address of your windows partition and add it in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:55] <magic_ninja> lexmark x1270
[00:55] <Seveas> !grub | Administrator
[00:55] <edge> @chi lol non i'm french sorry try on a basic shit of paper... rofl...
[00:56] <blue112> !paste
[00:56] <Derander> Seveas: despite the fact that "The End of All Hope" was playing in the background, things are working now.  Thanks for your help
[00:56] <Seveas> edge, 'sheet', not 'shit' :)
[00:56] <Seveas> Derander, :)
[00:56] <chi> hia2u Administrator can you help my ubutnu mouse for please
[00:56] <edge> yes ><
[00:56] <shady6507> shujah:about to try that
[00:56] <krsnadasa> Seveas: so you don't know bout modules or have any idea ?
[00:56] <Administrator> cheers
[00:56] <daigorobr> \\
[00:57] <richiefrich> magic_ninja: i would say follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1831119
[00:57] <Seveas> krsnadasa, my best guess is that the module you compile is incompatible with the running kernel. I'd find out which symbol is missing and search lkml for references to that symbol being added/removed/changed
[00:57] <krsnadasa> Seveas: lkml = what ?
[00:57] <chi> edge please no curs me
[00:58] <Shujah> krsnadasa, ibex is in alpha these things are to be expected :P
[00:58] <bobrock> hi
[00:58] <Seveas> krsnadasa, see, if you don't know what lkml is (yes, I was testing you with that), you're too inexperienced to try your hand at manually compiling kernel modules which may or may not work
[00:58] <blue112> hi
[00:58] <chi> hi bob
[00:58] <Seveas> krsnadasa, and also, google is your friend
[00:59] <cirkit> magic_ninja: Click on System -> Administration -> Printing .... Click 'New Printer'
[00:59] <gnuB_Chris_> any other ideas on how to reboot?
[00:59] <cirkit> magic_ninja: Select 'Lexmark Printer' from the list, which should have something like 'z600:/dev/usb/lp0' for Device URI. Click Forward
[00:59] <edge> @chi i've got that problem with my "chinese" optical mouse i've got to use it on a sheet of paper
[00:59] <chi> cirkit can yu for plese help my ubuntu mouse?
[00:59] <Derander> Nothing like attempting to get a mail box running in production during the middle of the day! Whoo! more coffee!
[00:59]  * krsnadasa wonders Seveas age ?
[00:59] <Seveas> krsnadasa, that is also almost trivial to find with google :)
[00:59] <cirkit> gnuB_Chris_: im checking
[01:00] <Motiron> hello, I want to install this linux but I would like to know if it runs on vista?
[01:00] <Zikey> Another newbie question, how do you switch the console fonts ? (25 lines to 4x lines)
[01:00] <Baby_Shambl3s> how can i shutdown/reboot from cli which is quite useful to me?
[01:00] <Shujah> Seveas is a dangerous man :P he used to date dd
[01:00] <Motiron> Baby_Shambl3s: sudo reboot / shutdown -h now
[01:00] <Seveas> Baby_Shambl3s, shutdown -h now / reboot
[01:00] <gman_> Shujah wher is the .sh file on the site??
[01:00] <Seveas> Shujah, I date shred now, even more dangerous
[01:00] <krsnadasa> Shujah: true i guess but if i run hardy then the drivers don't work because they require a higher kernel 2.6.25=+
[01:00] <Baby_Shambl3s> Motiron, Seveas thanx
[01:01] <Derander> shujah: I read that as ".. used to date delete line" o.0
[01:01] <Sa[i]nT> Anyone know about hooking blackberry to linux?
[01:01] <Seveas> Derander, rofl
[01:01] <cirkit> gnuB_Chris_: what you might want to do first is sudo -i so you are root and then 'apachectl stop' to stop the web server
[01:01] <Shujah> lols
[01:01] <Seveas> Derander, :q! and get some sleep
[01:01] <Derander> seveas: can't mail is still undelivered!
[01:02] <Shujah> gman_ http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.git;a=blob_plain;f=utils/alsa-info.sh <-this is the .sh file you have to download
[01:02] <Seveas> Derander, biff will handle that for you
[01:02] <Derander> seveas: what/who is biff?
[01:02] <Seveas> Derander, new-mail-notification from the stone age
[01:02] <edge> @motiron just boot on the live CD or on vista (live cd is better)
[01:02] <Derander> Seveas: *whoooosh*
[01:03] <Seveas> Derander, latest version in the ubuntu archives seems to be from 2000
[01:03] <richiefrich> gnuB_Chris_: you can do it with  -> su -c "apachectl stop"
[01:03] <Derander> Seveas: Hey! I played my first online game in 2000!
[01:03] <Dogg> I'm trying to use pygtk from python code, but having problems getting the install complete. What all do I need to install to get it working?
[01:03] <gman_> Shujah how do i download it????????
[01:03] <Seveas> Derander, first vs last. You just started, biff died
[01:03] <Derander> Seveas: yep :-)
[01:03] <eftex> hi
[01:04] <Shujah> gman_, open it in browser the .sh file will open - now save it as .sh on dektop
[01:04] <tarelerulz> when I plug my ipod in it is not auto mounted .  So how would I mount it manually ?
[01:04] <AcBush> Hey Guys...I'm trying to install an RPM and it says  The program 'rpm' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing sudo apt-get install rpm. Well, I do that and I get this: Package rpm is not available, but is referred to by another package.    -- Any suggestions?
[01:04] <eftex> i have two sata hard-drives and installed osx on the first one... now my ubuntu-linux does not start anymore but i can see the partitions if i boot with a ubuntu live-cd... is the ubuntu-bootmanager or mbr installed on the first disk despite the ubuntu itself is installed on the 2nd disk?
[01:05] <Seveas> eftex, yup
[01:05] <shady6507> Shujah: what exactly m i looking for? I see dev/sda for the disk and sda1 for the device, but in grub i see it on dev/sda1 and it looks like this...title:XP, rootnoverify (hd0,0), makeactive, chainloader +1
[01:05] <eftex> Seveas:  oh... :( can i install a mbr or bootmangaer on the 2nd disk to repair the boot for my ubuntu?
[01:05] <nickrud> AcBush you do not want to install via an rpm, you want a deb. What are you installing?
[01:05] <eftex> Seveas i would prefer not to touch the first hd
[01:05] <Seveas> eftex, dunno about macs
[01:06] <eftex> Seveas its a pc
[01:06] <eftex> Seveas the osx i installed is a "hacked" version
[01:06] <Seveas> eftex, ah, the osx threw me off
[01:06] <Fezzler> Any musicians here?  What Ubuntu-compatible software is there for recording my guitar?  Like Cakewalk, etc.?
[01:06] <AcBush> nickrud: I am trying to install VMWare Tools..
[01:06] <Seveas> !grub > eftex
[01:06] <nickrud> AcBush get the tar.gz version
[01:06] <AcBush> nickrud: Have it, but can't understand for the life of me how to install it...
[01:06] <dunas> Help. My display is normally 1440x900, and I managed to configure my xorg.conf to support that. I changed from KDE to GNOME, and uninstalled several KDE packages, and then restarted my X server. Suddenly, it wants to force 800x600 mode, and when I try to change it, it only changes the desktop's size- the room that's displayed remains the same.
[01:07] <eftex> okay thanks Seveas i knew its about grub but i was not sure if that is possible because i dont want to destroy the osx
[01:07] <nickrud> AcBush heh. you unpack it, and run the installer in it. tar.gz is a compressed archive
[01:07] <eftex> i want it to be seperated on each disk
[01:07] <dunas> x_x
[01:07] <Derander> eftex: Oo, I'm running a hackintosh too.
[01:07] <eftex> so there can be a mbr on the 2nd disk too or?
[01:07] <eftex> Derander:  :)
[01:07] <Shujah> shady6507, in the table you see any partition which looks like the xp - like it has the ntfs partition and the size matches?
[01:07] <nickrud> AcBush tar xf <file> to unpack it, or sudo tar xf if you're outside your home dir
[01:07] <gman_> Shujah:ok I saved it on my destop
[01:08] <shady6507> Shujah: yes thats what i saw
[01:08] <Derander> eftex: The way I have things set up it just boots off hd#1, GRUB there takes care of everything.  I don't know if you can put an MBR on disk #2 also
[01:08] <shady6507> Shujah: on the fdisk -l command
[01:08] <gnuB_Chris_> cir: apacheclt doesn't exist.  I did apache2 as part of the lamp install.  I think I use apache2 -k stop, but I don't have it in su path, so I am trying to locate it
[01:08] <Derander> eftex: Oh, read the question.  I'm not an expert - but if you install an MBR on the second one and then use your bios to read that first, you should be in business
[01:08] <Shujah> shady6507, now change the xp address in grub/menu.lst by sudo gedit
[01:09] <Shujah> gman_, go to terminal > cd ~/desktop and run ./alsa-info.sh --no-upload
[01:09] <dunas> Can someone please help? This is really worrying me.
[01:09] <nickrud> gnuB_Chris apache2ctl
[01:09] <Fezzler> No musicians?
[01:10] <shady6507> im not sure what to change, you see what my grub file says for th address of XP, its (hd0,0), is that what I am supposed to change?
[01:10] <eftex> Derander: thats what i am now trying... but i want to "repair" my ubuntu its not a new install
[01:10] <eftex>  (hd1,0) <-- thats the 2nd harddisk first partition right?
[01:10] <Derander> eftex: yes
[01:10] <shady6507> Shujah:^
[01:10] <eftex> k that should be fine since sdb is the harddisk on which linux runs and sda the one with osx
[01:11] <dunas> Ok, a little something else. Apparently it's convinced the monitor to run in 800x600, while it itself still responds to my commands. What do I do?
[01:11] <gnuB_Chris_> ah...bingo, thanks.  apache down
[01:11] <Derander> eftex: I don't think you'll have to repair anything, grub is installed by default - just switch the boot order in BIOS
[01:11] <AcBush> nickrud: Hey...There is vmware-install.pl and FILES, and INSTALL and some folders...what do I run? and how?
[01:11] <gnuB_Chris_> now try sudo restart?
[01:11] <eftex> grub> setup (hd1) leads to --> Error 12: Invalid device requested
[01:11] <Granada> mesurge.net
[01:11] <Shujah> shady6507, in menu.lst windows xp would be like (hd1,0) < change this to telly with what you saw on table e.g. maybe its (hd0, 0)
[01:11] <pteeb> oh god, theres the error again
[01:12] <Seveas> !ops | Granada spam
[01:12] <Seveas> !ops | izmeh spam (was Granada)
[01:12] <shady6507> Shujah: on grub it is already (hd0,0)
[01:12] <eftex> Derander: thats what i did... for osx i had to enable ahci in the sata controller i switched that back and chose the right harddisk via F8 (theres no biossetting needed with an asus mobo you can do that on the fly)
[01:12] <dunas> Can someone please help? This is really worrying me.
[01:12] <eftex> but it shows just a black screen
[01:12] <eftex> :/
[01:12] <eftex> so i asume it cant find the boot-entry
[01:12] <Derander> eftex: ah
[01:12] <Shujah> shady6507, and in fdisk ?
[01:13] <gman_> Shujah: im in the terminal so what exactly do i type??
[01:13] <Derander> eftext: yeah, I have an asus mobo also.  this is getting in a bit over my head.  there are various grub utilities you can find
[01:13] <nickrud> AcBush back to you ;)
[01:13] <shady6507> Shujah:but the fdisk it doesnt have anything near that format for anything as an identifier
[01:13] <nickrud> AcBush sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) , then cd into the directory with vmware-install.pl and  sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[01:14] <araizen> how can i install greasemonkey for firefox 2 (using kubuntu 8.04)
[01:14] <AcBush> nickrud: After running sudo apt, I got: E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[01:14] <dunas> What does Ubuntu use to tell the monitor what resolution to be running in? Because right now it wants to be 800x600 while it's supposed to be 1440x900
[01:14] <araizen> or alternatively, how can i get firefox 3 to work (the address bar doesn't change when i go to a different page)?
[01:14] <Derander> Oh, question.  How does one know if they are running 64 bit?  This is a 64 bit intel processor
[01:14] <nickrud> !hardysources | AcBush
[01:14] <Derander> 64bit ubuntu*
[01:14] <eftex> Derander: is there a way (without a hexeditor) to find out where grub is installed on the 2nd harddisk?
[01:15] <Seveas> araizen, http://addons.mozilla.org?
[01:15] <Derander> eftex: I have no idea
[01:15] <nickrud> AcBush then try again
[01:15] <eftex> and if its is correct and the mbr uses it?
[01:15] <eftex> hmm k
[01:15] <Seveas> Derander, uname -a
[01:15] <araizen> Seveas, oh yeah, that gives me an error when i try to install from the web site
[01:15] <Shujah> whats fdisk showeing for xp?
[01:15] <araizen> so i tried with apt-get, but it installs it for firefox 3
[01:15] <shady6507> shuj: on fdisk i see...
[01:15] <pteeb>  glxinfo | grep direct -- direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[01:15] <dunas> What does Ubuntu use to tell the monitor what resolution to be running in? Because right now it wants to be 800x600 while it's supposed to be 1440x900
[01:15] <pteeb> whats make it say No?
[01:16] <Seveas> Derander, uname -m for abbreviated info :)
[01:16] <Bahaa> excuse me, how would I make ubuntu write arabic ?
[01:16] <Derander> seveas: ah, forgot to thank you and yes - worked :-)
[01:16] <moibuntu> hi !
[01:16] <shady6507> shuja: disk /dev/sda for the disk and then...
[01:17] <bobrock> what is the best cli browser
[01:17] <gman_> shujah : im in the terminal what next??????
[01:17] <moibuntu> have a laptop with Turion x2 64 bit and would know what version will be better to install - 32 ol 64 bit?
[01:17] <eftex> Seveas: grub> setup (hd1,0) leads to Error 12: Invalid device requested
[01:17] <Seveas> bobrock, elinks
[01:17] <bobrock> ok
[01:17] <shady6507> shuja: device:/dev/sda1....boot:*....start:1....end:30400....blocks:244187968+.....id:7......system HPFS/NTFS
[01:17] <eftex> allready googled that without any useful hint that helps me
[01:17] <bobrock> thanks
[01:17] <Seveas> eftex, then use a valid device :)
[01:17] <shady6507> shuja: sorry slow typer
[01:17] <moibuntu> is there a real diference in the performance?
[01:18] <eftex> Seveas but sdb1 is the linux-partition? that should be okay or not?
[01:18] <nickrud> moibuntu no diff that I saw
[01:18] <eftex> and its also what i get when doing grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[01:18] <Shujah> gman_, go to terminal > cd ~/desktop and run ./alsa-info.sh --no-upload
[01:18] <shady6507> shuja: nothing in fdisk output resembling that (hd0,0) format
[01:18] <Idire> hello, would anyone here be able to help me with a soundcard issue?
[01:19] <gnuB_Chris_> cir: where is the boot log?  maybe that will give me a clue what happened.
[01:19] <Shujah> shady6507, change (hd0,0) to (hd1,0) save and boot
[01:19] <moibuntu> thanks, nickrud
[01:19] <shady6507> ok will try that
[01:20] <dunas> Can someone please help me? I'm having an issue where my monitor believes it should be displaying 1440x900, despite Ubuntu displaying a 1440x900 desktop.
[01:20] <araizen> greasemonkey works when i run firefox 2 as root, but not when i run it as my regular user
[01:20] <dunas> er.
[01:20] <dunas> Can someone please help me? I'm having an issue where my monitor believes it should be displaying 800x600, despite Ubuntu displaying a 1440x900 desktop.
[01:20] <yowshi> whats up with evolution? i havent been able to send or recieve mail with it
[01:20] <Shujah> dunas, nvidia?
[01:21] <dunas> Shujah: Yes, but this was working fine in KDE, before I swapped over.
[01:21] <Seveas> araizen, that means that you screwed it up when you ran it as root for the first time. sudo chown -R yourlogin:yourlogin /home/yourlogin/.mozilla
[01:21] <Shujah> dunas, you go tnvidia-setting-manager?
[01:21] <araizen> i don't think i did that, but i'll try
[01:22] <Idire> can anyone help me with this?
[01:22] <shady6507> Shujah:looks like that changed it to my Ubu drive, when selecting XP for boot this time i got the message "Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format"
[01:22] <dunas> Shujah: No, where can I get that? apt-get install didn't work, couldn't find it.
[01:22] <gman_> Shujah then what??
[01:22] <Shujah> dunas, open synaptic search for nvidia setting manager you'll get it
[01:23] <Shujah> gman_, nautilus > read this file > /tmp/alsa-info.txt
[01:23] <micky> does a domain name ex ( test.com ) that has nameservers ns1.test.org / ns2.test.org need it`s own nameservers ex ( ns1.test.com / ns2.test.com ) defined in order to be ok ?
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> Idire: state your prob, if we can help, we will
[01:23] <Idire> its a creative xtremegamer sound card
[01:23] <Seveas> "please state the nature of the medical emergency"
[01:24] <Seveas> micky, no
[01:24] <Shujah> shady6507, this link has many solutions to your problem > http://tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm   <-though I believe you have mentioned the wrong partition
[01:24] <araizen> Seveas, well, that killed firefox's memory of my open tabs, but it didn't change anything with greasemonkey
[01:24] <Idire> attempting to install it on ubuntu, but not understanding why it didnt work
[01:24] <tobmalf> I've heard many good things about smarty, but I've so much I need to learn now that I'll rather write php-native templates than learn another psuedo-language
[01:24] <Administrator> hi guys followed the grub fixing page for ubuntu after installing xp but when i open my gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst i get a blank document????
[01:24] <dunas> Shujah: I love you and wish to honor you with a statue or something.
[01:24] <araizen> greasemonkey appears in the addons list, but the little monkey face doesn't appear
[01:25] <Fezzler> Ever since I upgraded to Hardy, whenever I enable Desktop Cube, it turns off Visual Effects Extra.  It all worked in Fiesty and Gusty.  Bug?
[01:25] <Idire> i explain it on the ubuntu forums, in desktop environments, same username as here
[01:25] <tobmalf> that will do.. sudo apt-get running shoes ;-).. right I have gone too far off topic - better do something else
[01:25] <micky> Seveas i've ran a dns report and it seems to report that my nameservers are nonexistent..  :)
[01:25] <Seveas> micky, what's your domain?
[01:25] <micky> Seveas danielursu.ro
[01:25] <Fezzler> My video card is nvidia GeoForce FX 5500 AGP
[01:25] <eftex> Seveas: Shujah thx for your help grub reinstalled now rebooting to see if it works :)
[01:25] <gman_> Shuljah: command not found
[01:26] <eftex> brb *hopefully*
[01:26] <Bahaa> Hurry Back eftex
[01:26] <tobmalf> Good luck :P
[01:26] <eftex> thx :)
[01:26] <bobrock> can;t get my raden x1300 working
[01:26] <bobrock> drivers don;t load
[01:26] <gman_> shuljah: neva mind i made a mistake
[01:26] <Seveas> micky, dns is fine for that domain ns1.nowlive.ro and ns2.nowlive.ro resolve
[01:26] <micky> Seveas argh i think i found the issue there.. seems i forgot i've set the domain up as having ns1 based on itself ( ns1.domain )
[01:27] <saint_> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables <-- what's that mean?
[01:27] <bobrock> anybody got radeon x1300 working with acceratlion
[01:27] <tobmalf> without a brain, guest1234..
[01:27] <Seveas> micky, you don't need ns1.danielursu.ro :)
[01:27] <Starnestommy> saint_: it means that you need to install build-essential
[01:27] <tobmalf> play around with an MGO beta code :(..
[01:27] <Jordan_U> saint_: What are you trying to compile?
[01:27] <tobmalf> GlassSlipper who taught u to hop??????:P
[01:27] <micky> Seveas i know but i'll need to change that to match ns1 / ns2 .nowlive.ro to be ok
[01:27] <saint_> I'm trying to get my blackberry to work.
[01:28] <Seveas> micky, neh, that's not needed at all
[01:28] <Seveas> micky, nowhere in the registries does it say that ns1.danielursu.ro is the nameserver for danielursu.ro
[01:28] <micky> Seveas ( Name Server: ns1.danielursu.ro )
[01:29] <micky> Seveas at least that`s what i get by issuing a whois danielursu.ro
[01:29]  * Derander is starting to regret deciding to roll his own mailserver
[01:29] <shady6507> shujah: i will look into this page you gave, but not sure how i could be giving you the wrong info, as i am typing it directly fom the outputs
[01:29] <Seveas> micky:
[01:29] <Seveas> dennis@mirage:~$ dig +short -t NS danielursu.ro
[01:29] <Seveas> ns1.nowlive.ro.
[01:29] <Seveas> ns2.nowlive.ro.
[01:29] <Seveas> micky, the whois records don't matter when it comes to dns
[01:30] <pteeb> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) -- anyone know what could be causing this?
[01:30] <Seveas> Derander, well, that would happen sooner or later if you go with postfix+courier :)
[01:30] <chi> cirkit, how to fix ubuntu mouse?
[01:30] <Derander> Seveas:  the regret? :-)
[01:30] <Seveas> Derander, yes :)
[01:30] <Jordan_U> pteeb: Have you installed the drivers for your GFX card?
[01:30] <micky> Seveas yep that`s true.. that`s the way i've configured them... but if whois records dont matter how come the domain knows that ns1/ns2.nowlive.ro are authoritive.. even thou they are not specified anywhere :)
[01:30] <Seveas> mine only went away when I switched to exim+dovecot
[01:31] <Derander> Seveas: Oh? easier?
[01:31] <pteeb> Jordan_U, yes, i used envyNG to install NVidia drivers for GeFORCE 7950
[01:31] <Idire> can anyone help me with my soundcard install? explain why drivers wont work?
[01:31] <Seveas> micky, the .ro authoritative nameserver knows that.
[01:31] <voi> envyng works like a charm
[01:31] <yowshi> anyone know how to get mozzile to import mail setting and address book from evolution>?
[01:31] <Seveas> and the rootnameservers know where the .ro nameservers live
[01:31] <yowshi> err thunderbird
[01:31] <tobmalf> hey does anyone know what the new taskbar icon effects are listed under in compiz? (icon fly out, upon clicking)
[01:31] <micky> Seveas probaby i've entered the ip of ( ns1.nowlive.ro ) when i registered the domain.. hmm cant really remember thou :) anyway, thanks for the help
[01:32] <tobmalf>  well, that would happen sooner or later if you go with postfix+courier :)
[01:32] <Seveas> micky, your registrar registers the domain with the .ro nameservers for you
[01:32] <Zamadatx> hey i need help with my swap file
[01:32] <Zamadatx> i created it but dont know how to save it
[01:32] <Seveas> !ops | tobmalf is a bot or just repeating things others said. Annoying anyway
[01:32] <dr_Willis> save?  - how did you create it Zamadatx ?
[01:32] <tobmalf> think, to me, the holy spirit is just across the planet..
[01:33] <Zamadatx> i follwed the ubuntu wiki
[01:33] <Zamadatx> i set up the swapfile at 784 mb ram which is twice the recognized rma
[01:33] <Zamadatx> ram*
[01:33] <gman_> Shujah: its says that it couldnt find hom/gman/file and home/ gman / this
[01:33] <boselecta> i would like to set up amarok to automatically talk to my iPod nano (old version, long and skinny, not squarish) whenever i plug it in to the USB port. is this going to be a big chore? are there instructions for this?
[01:33] <Zamadatx> but when i try to have it load on boot step it says access denied and im the admin
[01:33] <Zamadatx> !
[01:33] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  are you meaning a swap partition? or are you really talking about making a swap file after install?
[01:34] <Zamadatx> drwillis:after install
[01:34] <Zamadatx> i was to stupid to makea swap partition lol
[01:34] <Pici> Seveas: thanks
[01:34] <cirkit> chi: "how to fix ubuntu mouse" doesn't tell anybody here anything on your issue. Elaborate.
[01:34] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,   Hmm.. You  just make the swap file, and use mkswap on the file, and then put the proper entry in the fstab file - is all I thought one had to do.
[01:34] <Zamadatx> ya it loads for that session
[01:35] <Jordan_U> boselecta: AFIK it's supported by default in Amarok, look for an option to "Add Device"
[01:35] <parradoX> admins
[01:35] <Zamadatx> but it wont laod after boot unless oyu type that last part in again
[01:35] <Seveas> Zamadatx, add it to /etc/fstab :)
[01:35] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  what last part. :) the basics of it i see are at   http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[01:35] <pteeb> anyone successfully get WC3 to run with WINE? mine is refusing
[01:35] <Zamadatx> Seveas: i tried but it keaps saying access denied
[01:35] <Zamadatx> and i typed the sud pass
[01:36] <Shujah> gman_, open terminal cd /home/desktop
[01:36] <Josdell> zamadatx: do you use sudo
[01:36] <Zamadatx> ya
[01:36] <boselecta> Jordan_U: thanks will take a look
[01:36] <Soul_Sample> pteeb: have you tried running it from the terminal? that way you can see where the error is
[01:36] <pteeb> yeah, the problem is direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[01:36] <pteeb> so the openGL wont run
[01:37] <Zamadatx> Seveas: any ideas why its saying denied?
[01:37] <pteeb> pete@pteeb:~/WAR3/warplay/Warcraft III$ wine "Frozen Throne.exe" -opengl -window
[01:37] <pteeb> err:ole:CoCreateInstance apartment not initialised
[01:37] <pteeb> fixme:advapi:SetSecurityInfo stub
[01:37] <pteeb> err:wgl:get_render_type_from_fbconfig Unknown render_type: 0
[01:37] <pteeb> err:wgl:get_render_type_from_fbconfig Unknown render_type: 0
[01:37] <pteeb> err:d3d:WineD3D_CreateFakeGLContext Can't find a suitable iPixelFormat
[01:37] <FloodBot2> pteeb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:37] <Soul_Sample> pteeb: i had that problem because i installed xgl . when i removed it all worked well... do you have xgl installed?
[01:37] <pteeb> err:d3d:InitAdapters Failed to get a gl context for default adapter
[01:37] <Derander> pteeb: ow
[01:37] <pteeb> sorry about that
[01:37] <pteeb> meant to paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/26972/
[01:37] <Seveas> Zamadatx, I don't even know what is saying access denied :)
[01:38] <pteeb> and instead did what i pasted in there :(
[01:38] <chi> cirkit please help!
[01:38] <Derander> ;-)
[01:38] <chi> :(
[01:38] <Zamadatx> Seveas: when i type the path to save the swapfile it says access denied.
[01:38] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  you need to be a bit more verbose  and perhaps tell us the url of the guide you followed.. and what command...
[01:38] <pteeb> Soul_Sample, i don't have XGL installed though :(
[01:38] <gman_> shujah: it says its a directory
[01:38] <pteeb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26972/ is what its complaining about
[01:38] <Zamadatx> drwillis: ok
[01:38] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  the term 'save the swap file' is whats confusing us.. You mean the Editing the fstab,  to automount the swap file?
[01:38] <cirkit> Seveas: I honestly don't believe chi is in need of real help here.
[01:39] <cirkit> chi: You need to stop that now.
[01:39] <Zamadatx> seveas: ye, ubuntu wiki calls it saving but i think thats mroe exact
[01:39] <Zamadatx> yes*
[01:39] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  what wiki. :) we dont have the whole wiki memorized...
[01:39]  * dr_Willis gets ready to edit a wiki.
[01:39] <pteeb> Soul_Sample, have you gotten WC3 working with WINE?
[01:40] <Soul_Sample> pteeb: yes, it's working better than in windows
[01:40] <pteeb> mind if I asked you a few questions in pvt? real quick
[01:40] <Soul_Sample> pteeb: sure
[01:40] <Zamadatx> i dont have the link to the ubuntu wiki page for this i savedthe file and it was given to me in forums
[01:40] <eftex> hell yeah i am back alive
[01:40]  * Seveas shoots eftex
[01:40] <eftex> very strange... i had to manually edit the entry in the grub
[01:41] <chi> You're no fun anymore cirkit,  What happend to you? :(
[01:41] <Seveas> chi, this channel is not for fun.
[01:41] <eftex> so it does boot from hd(0.0) despite its the 2nd harddisk and fixing the mbr also worked with grub on hd(1.0)
[01:41] <chi> clearly
[01:41] <eftex> *thats really weird stuff*
[01:41] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  the guide at http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/  - is about all there is to making a swap file. If you are having problems editing the fstab file to make the thing automount  you need to edit it as root 'sudo nano /etc/fstab' and add a proper entry for the swapfile
[01:41] <Gralco> why does opera refuse to go open source
[01:41] <Zamadatx>  sudo gedit /etc/fstab is where im stuck
[01:41] <Seveas> Gralco, ask opera.
[01:41] <chi> Gralco, Money.
[01:41] <dr_Willis> !sudo
[01:41] <eftex> can only be explainid that the linux-system does not recognize the hfs correctly or as first device at all after getting into the boot-process
[01:42] <gman_> Shujah: it says it a directory now what???
[01:42] <eftex> whatever... now its time to fix that wlan-driver-shit for my osx :)
[01:42] <Gralco> chi where do they get their prophets, i know i opera is on the wii
[01:42] <eftex> thx for ya help :)
[01:42]  * chi shrugs
[01:42] <Seveas> eftex, grub (and grub-install) don't give a shit about what linux recognizes :)
[01:42] <Zamadatx> O nvm i had the line above it that was giving me errors that i already did
[01:42] <Gralco> chi but i don't know where they get currency
[01:42] <Seveas> Gralco, this is an ubuntu support channel. Other talk elsewhere please
[01:43] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  normally one would use    gksu gedit /etc/fstab   for using the gedit. since gedit is an X app. :) nano being a console editor.. can use sudo.
[01:43] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  heh heh..
[01:43] <eftex> Seveas: yeah, but the fix of the mbr was targeted on hd(0.1) and now during boot i had to edit the entries so they point to hd(0.0)
[01:43] <Zamadatx> Seveaus; im new to linux and i dont know what to change in fstab
[01:43] <richiefrich> Gralco: all advertizments
[01:43] <eftex> isnt that a bit weird?
[01:43] <yowshi> //list
[01:43] <chi> Gralco, http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=711549
[01:43] <nickrud> Seveas, Seveas, Seveas, language ;)
[01:43] <Zamadatx> u should edit ubuntus wiki lol
[01:43] <boselecta> Jordan_U: for amarok, it wants a pre-connect and post-disconnect command. surely it shouldn't be this hard...
[01:43] <richiefrich> Gralco: i dont see what this has to do with ubuntu
[01:43] <Zamadatx> so im in fstab how do i add my swap file to boot?
[01:44] <yowshi> i found it. there is such a option. but i wouldnt have ever chosen it *shrugs* wierd
[01:44] <Gralco> richiefrich this channel is used for informational purposes anyone can ask what they feel
[01:44] <Jordan_U> boselecta: I don't actually use Amarok or an iPod myself, try asking in #amarok
[01:44] <Seveas> Gralco, that's not true at all. This is an ubuntu support channel.
[01:44] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  from the guide i posted  a line similer to --->  /swapfile1 swap swap defaults 0 0
[01:44] <richiefrich> Gralco: i thought this was for ubuntu helo
[01:44] <richiefrich> help
[01:44] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  where /swapfile1 is the proper path to the swapfile you made.
[01:45] <yowshi> ooops wrong window
[01:45] <boselecta> Jordan_U, will do. thanks for the channel pointer.
[01:45] <Zamadatx> k
[01:45] <Jordan_U> boselecta: np
[01:45] <Zamadatx> where do i add this?
[01:45] <kcaj> Yo
[01:45] <kcaj> How do I find out what wireless card I got?
[01:45] <kanne> can someone tell me how i unset the manually installed flag which apt-get tells me about after installing an already by a dependency installed packeg?
[01:45] <Zamadatx> because its just a bunch of lines to me... at the bottom?
[01:45] <Seveas> kcaj, lspci
[01:45] <kcaj> My wifi light does not come on
[01:45] <kcaj> Or seem to work
[01:45] <Gralco> richiefrich: Yes but we are a community, we speak of many subjects.
[01:45] <Seveas> kcaj, or lsusb if it's a usb one
[01:45] <chi> why is ubuntu brown?
[01:46] <tarelerulz> I mounted my ipod ,but not gtkpod can't write to it.  How would I make it so  gtkipod which has normal use access I think to use the ipod ?
[01:46] <dr_Willis> chi,  because Pink clashed with the beige
[01:46] <kcaj> cuz is it the ISH!
[01:46] <Seveas> !ops | chi/gralco continued offtopic
[01:46] <Jordan_U> chi: Because of it's South African roots and "Human" theme
[01:46] <eftex> chi because it should ... damn Jordan_U was fater
[01:46] <richiefrich> Gralco: so i can ask debian help in here there
[01:46] <eftex> +s :D
[01:46] <richiefrich> Gralco: ?
[01:46] <Zamadatx> is there a significant delay in chat?
[01:46] <nickrud> chi give it a break and Gralco the same
[01:46] <chi> hrm
[01:46] <kcaj> Nope, all these guys are wrong. Ubuntu is brown cuz it is the shhhh :)
[01:46] <yowshi> anyone know how to get mozzile to import mail setting and address book from evolution>?
[01:46] <Gralco> richiefrich maybe not this channel
[01:46] <Zamadatx> can compiz do anything besides squash windows?
[01:46] <richiefrich> Gralco: i thought you said anything, like your opera question
[01:46] <Seveas> Zamadatx, it can burn them
[01:47] <Gralco> richiefrich just dont take things far please
[01:47] <Zamadatx> !!!
[01:47] <kcaj> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g (rev 01)
[01:47] <chi> !help
[01:47] <Zamadatx> how do i do that
[01:47] <kcaj> I need a driver for that
[01:47] <Seveas> and put them on a cube
[01:47] <kcaj> What do I do? :(
[01:47] <eftex> Zamadatx: or explode or beam em or whatever
[01:47] <kcaj> It isn't auto-detect, obviously the wired connect works
[01:47] <Zamadatx> !!!
[01:47] <kcaj> but my wifi seems totally goned
[01:47] <gman_> Shujah: what now it says it a Directory
[01:47] <saint_> Anyone in here used barry for blackberry phones?
[01:47] <Zamadatx> how?
[01:47] <richiefrich> Gralco: i am not i said ubuntu only, as it is an #ubuntu channel :\
[01:47] <eftex> Zamadatx: best way is to install the simple compiz manager
[01:47] <eftex> and the advanced compiz manager
[01:47] <piju_> is it normal hardy temp 49 degrees ?
[01:47] <eftex> i dont know the packet-names for it
[01:48] <eftex> but they are in the synaptic-manager
[01:48] <Seveas> Zamadatx, search youtube for compiz to get inspiration. Install compizconfig-settings-manager to get all the buttons to tweak it
[01:48] <Zamadatx> i thought compiz was already in ubuntu
[01:48] <Zamadatx> gues not
[01:48] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  compiz is.
[01:48] <Jordan_U> Zamadatx: It is
[01:48] <Zamadatx> ???
[01:48] <eftex> Zamadatx: yes it is... but if you want to set it more easisly use that tools
[01:48] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  the advanced settings tools are not
[01:48] <Gralco> richiefrich ubuntu's irc community channel where all the nice folks of ubuntu come to speak and help each other out =)
[01:48] <Zamadatx> o
[01:48] <Zamadatx> ok
[01:48] <Seveas> Zamadatx, compiz is, the tweaking tool isn't installed by default
[01:48] <wmcgree> @Zamadatx It is, but not all the customisation options are there
[01:48] <richiefrich> Gralco: i see
[01:48] <eftex> Seveas: (that should be changed in the future)
[01:49] <Seveas> eftex, neh
[01:49] <eftex> for a beginner its quite confusing not to have the compiz-settings-tools
[01:49] <Zamadatx> getiting off track when im in fstab where do i add my swap file info?
[01:49] <Seveas> Zamadatx, add it at the bottok
[01:49] <Seveas> bottom
[01:49] <Zamadatx> k
[01:49] <kcaj> YAY I GOT INTERNET!
[01:49] <kcaj> :D
[01:49] <piju_> is it normal hardy temp 49 degrees ?
[01:50] <edge> piju? celsius or kelvin?
[01:50] <Zamadatx> ’╗┐/swapfile1 swap swap defaults 0 0 which part of this is the directory /swapfile1?
[01:50] <dr_Willis> 49 Kelvin would be... cold. :)
[01:50] <Zamadatx> very
[01:51] <Zamadatx> heck i would overclock 200%
[01:51] <wmcgree> Yeah, like superchilled
[01:51]  * nickrud whaps dr_Willis with a frozen fish
[01:51] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  you replace /swapfile1 with the path to whever you made your swapfile and the name of it.
[01:51] <Seveas> 49F would be cold for a cpu as well
[01:51] <piju_> edge, celcius
[01:51] <krsnadasa> [ 5414.631490] iwl4965: Unknown symbol iwl_rxon_add_station.. anyone know what i to do ?
[01:51] <ShadowApex> w00t
[01:51] <piju_> now im running firefox, pidgin, xchat. my temp now is 50
[01:51] <zelrikriando> my cpu is at 0K
[01:51] <piju_> is it normal ?
[01:51] <dr_Willis> zelrikriando,  mine is at -19K
[01:51] <Zamadatx> can i have more than 2 desktops at one time?
[01:51] <dr_Willis> :)
[01:52] <edge> it was a joke and that's normal my Vaio work at 52┬░C
[01:52] <tarelerulz> I am lost I can run nautilus  via sudo so I can see who own what ,but I can't change group  to my normal user.  I really am lost
[01:52] <zelrikriando> dr_Willis, it means you go backwards in time
[01:52] <zelrikriando> :)
[01:52] <zelrikriando> piju, celcius?
[01:52] <antonio`> hi how are yous jus
[01:52] <piju_> ya zelrikriando
[01:52] <Gralco> does anyone know how I can make the icons on Awn magnify where I place my pointer over them?
[01:52] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  yes. :)  if using compiz use the compiz settings manger to set the # of desktops. NOT the desktop panel/pager thing.
[01:52] <zelrikriando> piju_, mine is at 55
[01:52] <krsnadasa> any one know why i can;t modprobe my iwl4965?
[01:52] <zelrikriando> piju_, so you re ok
[01:52] <piju_> when im running many apps, it can up to 61C
[01:52] <Zamadatx> tecompiz is nice... lol
[01:53] <N1N31NCHN41L5> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.  how do i fix this problem
[01:53] <Seveas> krsnadasa, because you manually compiled an incompatible driver without any knowledge on how to debug such a problem
[01:53] <Zamadatx> is compiz a cube desktop?
[01:53] <zelrikriando> piju_, mine went up to 100┬░C one day...so you are safe still
[01:53] <gman_> Shujah: it says its a directory what now??????????
[01:53] <edge> @piju laptop or desktop?
[01:53] <Seveas> Zamadatx, it can be. It can also be a wall
[01:53] <piju_> edge, laptop
[01:53] <N1N31NCHN41L5> Zamadatx:  yes it is
[01:53] <Zamadatx> or a bumptop or realdesktop desktop?
[01:53] <N1N31NCHN41L5> if u want it to be
[01:53] <zelrikriando> piju_, so your cpu is cooler than mine..
[01:54] <Shujah> gman_, do you have realtek?
[01:54] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  i think you are tossing way too many buzzwords around. :)
[01:54] <Zamadatx> ahh i wish it were a bumptop or real desktop tose are awesome
[01:54] <N1N31NCHN41L5> can aNYONE HELP ME
[01:54] <Zamadatx> whats a buzzword?
[01:54] <krsnadasa> Seveas: well thats why i come here if i knew everything i wouldn't be asking for help..huh.. huh.. and if you can't help the best is to keep quiet ;)
[01:54] <Shujah> tarelerulz, sudo chgrp user file_name
[01:54] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  a 'cool sounding word' that might mean somthing.. but hardly anyone knows what it really means.
[01:54] <Seveas> krsnadasa, I gave you some pointers. Not gonna solve everything for you
[01:54] <Zamadatx> o
[01:55] <dr_Willis> !compiz
[01:55] <Zamadatx> buzzword should be one
[01:55] <Seveas> krsnadasa, besides we don't support intrepid in here
[01:55] <eftex> kk now i'll be away fixxing the osx
[01:55] <eftex> cya soon :)
[01:55] <eftex> gn8
[01:55] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,   as opposed to 'real desktop' or 'bumptop' :)
[01:55] <chi> N1N31NCHN41L5, I'm guessing no?
[01:55] <Zamadatx> well those are program names
[01:55] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  never heard of any of them.
[01:56] <Zamadatx> there like a cardboard box where you have icons move and fall with real physics
[01:56] <N1N31NCHN41L5> Chi - so far no
[01:56] <N1N31NCHN41L5> its a dpkg problem
[01:56] <Zamadatx> anyays thanks for the help with the swap file i have it saved
[01:56] <SamSamSam> How do I connect to another IRC server that isnt part of the XChat list?
[01:56] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  sounds like more useless eyecandy. :)  compiz has a few (very few) usefull features. that i like. But most of it is just to show off to windows peoples.
[01:56] <gman_> Shujah: are u talkn bout my souncard??
[01:56] <Zamadatx> ya basically
[01:56] <Shujah> gman_, yes do you have realtek?
[01:56] <dr_Willis> SamSamSam,  - /server newservername
[01:56] <Seveas> SamSamSam, /newserver name.of.server
[01:57] <lee> how do I get the cube to work to switch desktops?
[01:57] <zelrikriando> dr_Willis, I enabled everything on Compiz :D
[01:57] <Infinito-> SamSamSam, but wai
[01:57] <Zamadatx> im using pidgin is there any suggested irc clients for ubuntu?
[01:57] <Tim-S> is it normal for a clean install of ubuntu not to have a /booot/grub/grub.conf file?
[01:57] <SamSamSam> thatnk you Dr_Willis and Seveas
[01:57] <xxploit> Zamadatx, xchat
[01:57] <gman_> Shujah no
[01:57] <dr_Willis> zelrikriando,  you probrly cant even type without activating a dozen features then. :)
[01:57] <Juozapas> Zamadatx: irssi
[01:57] <zelrikriando> dr_Willis, :D
[01:57] <Zamadatx> they all say that but i cant open the rpm...
[01:57] <SamSamSam> Infinito-  because nobody here wants to listen to what i want to talk about :OD
[01:57] <Seveas> dr_Willis, better use /newserver, that won't disconnect the current connection ;)
[01:58] <N1N31NCHN41L5> sup dr_Willis
[01:58] <Zamadatx> is the trash in ubuntu compressed?
[01:58] <dr_Willis> Seveas,  bah! :)
[01:58] <zelrikriando> lee, in advanced desktop effects setting
[01:58] <Seveas> Zamadatx, no
[01:58] <Infinito-> SamSamSam, I mistyped, I meant nothing sorry... hehe
[01:58] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  nope. no trash compresser here.
[01:58] <Shujah> gman_, once in terminal go to /home/Desktop < once there use this command ./alsa-info.sh --no-upload
[01:58] <Zamadatx> can i make it compressed?
[01:58] <taxidude221> hi people i need some help
[01:58] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  youve seen an OS that has compressed trash?
[01:58] <Zamadatx> well there was a thing for windows that did it on its way to the trash
[01:59] <Seveas> dr_Willis, the trashcan in windows can be hooked to do all kinds of weird stuff. symantec crapware also hooks it
[01:59] <szhil1232> Can any1 help me out with a gfx question on 8.04?  My display sucks compared to windows boot and Im using ATI's driver and direct rendering is working (i have a x1400) Is something wrong or is the gfx just not that good with the linux drivers?
[01:59] <dr_Willis> if you got so much trash that it needs to be compressed.. well... :)  its time to take out the trash.
[01:59] <Zamadatx> lol
[01:59] <theRealBall> anyone here use solaris?
[01:59] <Zamadatx> well i delete things to make them small as i can with most the features
[02:00] <Zamadatx> and they often fail and i need the trash
[02:00] <Seveas> theRealBall, only if I have to
[02:00] <dr_Willis> I am reminded of years ago of the 'disk compression' disasters.. so common. :)
[02:00] <Zamadatx> how do i open an pm file?
[02:00] <Seveas> theRealBall, but this is ab ubuntu support channel, not a solaris one
[02:00] <lee> zelrikriando, I can not find that. do I have to run it from the cli?
[02:00] <Zamadatx> what disaster?
[02:00] <Seveas> Zamadatx, with a text editor. It's a perl module
[02:00] <zelrikriando> lee, hold on
[02:00] <theRealBall> how else would one ask if we use any other os
[02:00] <theRealBall> geez
[02:00] <Zamadatx> does it run them?
[02:00] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  you could proberly make a compressed trashcan with the FUSE tools. but it sounds liek a waste of time/cpu.
[02:01] <Zamadatx> ya im not doing that if i had a hard time with a swap file
[02:01] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  back in the 80's the disk compression was a feature of dos. and resulted in a lot of lost data from hard drives :)
[02:01] <Zamadatx> is there any way t hide people signing out?
[02:01] <Seveas> dr_Willis, woah flashback :)
[02:01] <Tim-S> is it normal for a clean install of ubuntu not to have a /booot/grub/grub.conf file?
[02:01] <Seveas> Zamadatx, not with pidgin afaik
[02:01] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  check the docs/guides for your irc client. :) xchat has a 'show join/part'  option
[02:01] <Zamadatx> o whats the best compressor percentage ratio
[02:01] <whileimhere> Hi there. I was given a link to a site with the Ubuntu version of LIVES the other day. Does anyone know it offhand?>
[02:02] <zelrikriando> lee, make sure you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed
[02:02] <Soul_Sample> anybody knows how could I install finch if i have a newer pidgin (and thus the libpurple) files, and finch insists on the older ones?
[02:02] <Seveas> Zamadatx, depends on the content you feed it.
[02:02] <Zamadatx> how do i install xchat i have the rpm
[02:02] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  depends on the data you are compressing and how critical cpu ussage is for you. vs time to decompress and other things.
[02:02] <Zamadatx> well i man all around compressor
[02:02] <szhil1232> can any1 point me in the right direction?  my notebook's gfx suck and i cant find anything on the net that would suggest something is wrong
[02:02] <Seveas> Zamadatx, you toss out the rpm and search for xchat in applications -> add/remove
[02:02] <Zamadatx> i use 7 zip on ultra
[02:02] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  rpm?  ubuntus do NOT use rpms.
[02:02] <Seveas> 7zip is good
[02:02] <Zamadatx> ...
[02:02] <dr_Willis> 7zip is handy.
[02:02] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, why using a rpm ?
[02:03] <Zamadatx> i have had linux for one day
[02:03] <Seveas> szhil1232, strange. Lots of things are wrong on the net
[02:03] <Zamadatx> what does ubuntu use?
[02:03] <dr_Willis> !apt-get | Zamadatx
[02:03] <Seveas> Zamadatx, deb packages. And you don't need to download them manually
[02:03] <Billll> xubuntu supprot come froim here as well?
[02:03] <gman_> Shujah : permission denied
[02:03] <szhil1232> i mean specific to my case
[02:03] <whileimhere> !LIVES
[02:03] <Zamadatx> what is that seach for a progrm thing
[02:03] <Seveas> Billll, #xubuntu might be of more help but xubuntu questions are welcome here as well
[02:03] <Shujah> gman_,sudo ./alsa-info.sh --no-upload
[02:04] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, use Synaptic Package Manager or apt-get...or a .deb but here a simple Add/Remove in your Application menu would do it
[02:04] <Billll> thank you :D
[02:04] <zelrikriando> :D
[02:04] <Seveas> Zamadatx, that has a list of all applications ubuntu has, several thousand.
[02:04] <taxidude221> when trying to boot ubuntu from a live cd i choose "Boot ubuntu without making changes to your computer" or something like that then i get all these lines of i/o errors and other errors, what is the problem?
[02:04] <lee> zelrikriando, Thanks I did not have that installed and now it is working.  Thanks a lot...
[02:04] <Zamadatx> ok whats the structure of using that
[02:04] <Zamadatx> what do i type for what i want
[02:04] <Seveas> taxidude221, bad cd or bad cd drive
[02:04] <szhil1232> i seem to have the right driver and 3D accel but it blows, theres this line that appears and splits the screen and DVDs cant even play, it looks like scrambled video
[02:04] <Seveas> Zamadatx, xchat
[02:04] <Seveas> :)
[02:04] <Zamadatx> just the name?
[02:04] <Seveas> Zamadatx, make sure you select "show all available programs"
[02:04] <taxidude221> oh darn well thanks seveas
[02:04] <zelrikriando> lee, if you want more info let me know...I know how to make nice looking desktops :p
[02:04] <Seveas> Zamadatx, yes. Why should it be more difficult? =)
[02:05] <taxidude221> ill try it on my other comp where i burned it
[02:05] <hotking> how to upgrade to ubuntu8.04.1 from 8.04?
[02:05] <Zamadatx> idk windwos swap fille was easy
[02:05] <gman_> Shujah it asks for password i put the password i set or another one??
[02:05] <Seveas> hotking, just install the updates ubuntu tells you about, then you're at 8.04.1 now
[02:05] <suselin> hotking, should be done auto
[02:05] <whileimhere> Is there a uploader for google photos like there is for flicker?
[02:05] <Shujah> gman_, the password you set as first user is the password for root
[02:05] <lee> zelrikriando, thanks a lot.
[02:05] <Zamadatx> can you upgrade every 6 month version of ubuntu without uninstalling
[02:05] <zelrikriando> hotking, if you keep your stuff updated...you are on 8.04.1
[02:05] <Seveas> Zamadatx, yes
[02:06] <Tim-S> is it normal for a clean install of ubuntu not to have a /booot/grub/grub.conf file?
[02:06] <Seveas> Tim-S, yes
[02:06] <Seveas> grub.conf is a redhat-ism. The proper name of that file is menu.lst
[02:06] <Infinito-> you've typed three ooo's there Tim-S
[02:06] <Zamadatx> can i disable this admin password thing?
[02:06] <taxidude221> where can i find out which cd-rom drive i have?
[02:06] <Seveas> hello capt'n obvious :)
[02:06] <Seveas> Zamadatx, yes
[02:06] <Zamadatx> its getn annoying as windows
[02:06] <Tim-S> Infinito: ?
[02:07] <Zamadatx> where do i go?
[02:07] <Infinito-> Tim-S, "booot"
[02:07] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, what is annoying?
[02:07] <Tim-S> oh haha
[02:07] <Seveas> taxidude221, hal-device-manager
[02:07] <Zamadatx> the admin password
[02:07] <Tim-S> so if I'm adding a password to grub I should do it in menu.lst?
[02:07] <taxidude221> thanks
[02:07] <Zamadatx> i didnt realized it would be used after login
[02:07] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, how?
[02:07] <lks> anyone know how to configure the microphone to work on skype?..thx
[02:07] <Zamadatx> whenever i do system stuff it ask
[02:07] <jm2k> sometimes my system runs slow -- whats the best way or tool to debug problems such as "too many resources" or memory usage?
[02:07] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, like when you install/update stuff?
[02:07] <Zamadatx> ya
[02:07] <Zamadatx> mosty
[02:07] <jm2k> strace? or something like that?
[02:07] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, that is safer that way though
[02:07] <Seveas> jm2k, top -b -n1
[02:08] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  proper system security is a 'process' learn how to use 'sudo' and use it properly. :) is the key to long life of the os.
[02:08] <Zamadatx> are there virouses for ubuntu?
[02:08] <Seveas> Zamadatx, not in the wild
[02:08] <taxidude221> wait seveas is hal-device-manager for windows.....?
[02:08] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, very few called 'rootkits'
[02:08] <Seveas> taxidude221, this is an ubuntu channel. what do you think?
[02:08] <taxidude221> lol ok
[02:08] <jm2k> Seveas: same as looking at the System Monitor too !? !?
[02:08] <ElPando> where should the swap be, at the beginning or end of the disk?
[02:08] <szhil1232> a rootkit isnt a virus
[02:09] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, they are not a problem if you have a good security behaviour
[02:09] <jm2k> *tool
[02:09] <Zamadatx> are they as annoying as windows virouses?
[02:09] <zelrikriando> szhil1232, well....ok
[02:09] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  nothing is as annoying as anything in windows. :)
[02:09] <Zamadatx> lol
[02:09] <dr_Willis> !virus | Zamadatx
[02:09] <Zamadatx> well that darn swap file is
[02:09] <Seveas> dr_Willis, untrue. pulseaudio is more annoying than sound in windows
[02:09] <Seveas> FAR more annoying
[02:09] <gman_> Shujah it says sudo: ./alsa-info.sh: command not found
[02:09] <szhil1232> its a malicious software that runs below the OS essentially becoming the OS and virtualizing the users OS or simply changing the OS itself
[02:09] <Zamadatx> well im sure its because it uses ext3 and no exe files and a diff structure
[02:09] <xxschwartzxx> What other OS's are there besides Linux Mac and Windows?
[02:09] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  that was rather trivial.  you couldent figure out how to edit 1 file... you have now hopefully learned how to edit a system file with a text editor.
[02:10] <Zamadatx> lol
[02:10] <Zamadatx> it is easier
[02:10] <Zamadatx> i like it alot
[02:10] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  ext3. and no .exe, has nothing to do witht he lack of viruses. :)
[02:10] <smallfoot-> xxor27h, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, DragonFlyBSD, Plan 9 from Bell Labs, AIX, HP-UX, Solaris, OpenSolaris, etc
[02:10] <xxschwartzxx> Oh.
[02:10] <xxschwartzxx> Any good?
[02:10] <ElPando> ... where should i put the swap partition? beginning or end?
[02:10] <smallfoot-> xxor27h, FreeDOS, Amiga OS 4, etc lots others
[02:10] <Zamadatx> what exactly is the difference between ext3 and everything else?
[02:10] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  in theory a 'user' can only trash/alter their own files. thus a user cant trash the whole system. no matter what they do. :) (in theory)
[02:10] <ruMeL> i want to sleep !
[02:10] <xxschwartzxx> Can any compete with Ubuntu?
[02:11] <smallfoot-> xxschwartzxx, some of them have some good features. Some of them are good for some stuff, but Linux, Mac, Windows are best for most desktop users
[02:11] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  thats part of the reason for sudo. keep the root/system admin stuff as seperate from the users as you can.
[02:11] <xxschwartzxx> I see,
[02:11] <smallfoot-> xxschwartzxx, Plan 9 from Bell labs got some great network features and cool technology
[02:11] <xxschwartzxx> Oh? By technology you mean...?
[02:11] <Zamadatx> what re the advantages of ext3?
[02:11] <ElPando> imust say i'd rather have an admin account and a user one
[02:11] <szhil1232> can any1 at least point me to where i may find my answer?   It is good on Servers.
[02:11] <suselin> journaling
[02:11] <xxschwartzxx> i see...
[02:12] <zelrikriando> small fragmentation ?
[02:12] <smallfoot-> xxschwartzxx, *BSD is great for servers too. OpenBSD got really great security.
[02:12] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  its the 'standard' :)  other filesystems may be better at some tasks.. but ext3 is good for most people.
[02:12] <tarelerulz> I made mount for the ipod using sudo and ipod says it is owned my root .  So I did sudo root:normaluser /media/ ipod  and it says it cant charge permision . To the subdircet .  What do I do
[02:12] <ZachPruckowski> I just downloaded Ubuntu Server 8.04.1 and I'm trying to install it in Parallels, but I need to figure out how to disable PAE
[02:12] <Curtis> ?
[02:12] <mylogic> I can't wait for zfs to become the standard
[02:12] <ZachPruckowski> can anyone help me?
[02:12] <Zamadatx> does ubuntu defragment fast?
[02:12] <szhil1232> lol @ tarelerulz
[02:12] <xxschwartzxx> I'm working on installing ubuntu to my external HD tomorrow :D
[02:12] <lazertek> szhil12
[02:12] <suselin> what is pae
[02:12] <N1N31NCHN41L5> Zamadatx:  u dont defrag ubuntu
[02:12] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, it does not fragment
[02:12] <Zamadatx> good
[02:12] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  filesystems can fragment.. and ext3 has very little if any problems with fragmentation
[02:12] <Zamadatx> i was hopeing that
[02:12] <Zamadatx> i hate defragging
[02:13] <lazertek> szhil1232: just download envyng and it will do it automatically
[02:13] <bobrock_> what are some good cli apps
[02:13] <maco> suselin: physical address extensions
[02:13] <Zamadatx> xchat gnome?
[02:13] <Mecha25> not true, it fragments, you just doesn't notice because of advanced elevator algorithms and such
[02:13] <zelrikriando> Actually it does fragment but at very slow rate
[02:13] <dr_Willis> bobrock_,  thats a little vague. :)   try 'fortune | cowsay' its my fave.
[02:13] <szhil1232> k ill give it a shot
[02:13] <moppen_> good morning everyone!
[02:13] <lazertek> szhil1232: you'll be surprised how well it works
[02:13] <suselin> maco ty guess i need to read to find out what it is
[02:14] <ruMeL> oh dude, it's 3am, how can you say Good morning ?
[02:14] <Mecha25> he's not on your coast
[02:14] <ruMeL> ok, maybe you're right.
[02:14] <moppen_> iam from from germany and on our irc nobody can help me
[02:14] <Mecha25> or continent for that matter I think
[02:14] <Zamadatx> when i check a program to be installed o i click apply changes and it starts?
[02:14] <lazertek> Zamadatx: what about xchat gnome
[02:14] <moppen_> so i try it here
[02:14] <maco> suselin: the reason on 32bit you often only see 3.2gb of memory is that the pci devices are often memory mapped in the upper 3gb range
[02:14] <zelrikriando> ruMeL, it's 8pm here
[02:14] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  it 'installs' the program.
[02:14] <lazertek> yes Zamadatx
[02:14] <ruMeL> Gosh.
[02:14] <maco> suselin: PAE lets those be remapped above 4gb so that you can use all 4gb of memory on a 32bit os
[02:14] <smallfoot-> heeeeeeeeelp brainstorm is broken
[02:14] <maco> suselin: if you have less than 4gb, you don't care
[02:14] <perlsyntax_> i got my gps connect to my pc with linux how do i update the maps?
[02:14] <Zamadatx> yay this is better than googleing for software
[02:15] <suselin> maco ok
[02:15] <dr_Willis> Zamadatx,  the joys of the package manager. :)
[02:15] <Zamadatx> i updated 22 thigns today after installing on 90 mb free ram
[02:15] <bobrock_> ubuntu linux is one powerful os
[02:15] <lazertek> Zamadatx: seems like you just got into linux systems... you're gonna love it
[02:15] <Zamadatx> it took 1hour 30 minutes
[02:15] <tarelerulz> I have try use nautilus via sudo and change ipod dircotory to nomaluser did not work.  I have been trying commmand line chown nothing.  Maybe if someone shows me the right command  > I want the ipod and all its dictorys writeble to my normal use so I can put music on it
[02:15] <lee> zelrikriando, no i can only have 1 desktop? do you know why?
[02:15] <Zamadatx> i used dsl and puppy on my ub 4 school
[02:15] <moppen_> is here someone who is using a bcm4311 chip on a broadcom wireless lan card?
[02:15] <ElPando> guys, do i want my swap at the beginning, or at the end of the disk??
[02:15] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, you can still google for ubuntu software ...but a lot of it is right there
[02:15] <Zamadatx> i have reactos which is awindwos clone but free and opensource
[02:15] <lazertek> moppen_: is you wireless not working?
[02:15] <jasedude> Salutations folks
[02:15] <Zamadatx> but ubunu is a frst time for a real common linus os
[02:16] <zelrikriando> lee, did you configure the general options of Compiz?
[02:16] <maco> Zamadatx: yes, one of the nicest things about making my brother and sister use linux is that they can install software without asking me "do i hit next now? next or back? what about this one? do i hit next, back, or cancel this time?  how about now?"
[02:16] <dr_Willis> ElPando,  ive heard some speed is to be gained at the start.. but i doubt if you will notice any differance. I always put mine at the end.
[02:16] <zelrikriando> lee, in that setting manager I told you about
[02:16] <Zamadatx> lol
[02:16] <bobrock_> what's up with ati 1300 i can;t get the drivers
[02:16] <dr_Willis> ElPando,  for the fastest - you could have several swap partitions across several disks. but thats extreme
[02:16] <moppen_> my wireless is working with ndiswrapper...but ndiswrapper doesnt support monitoring
[02:16] <bobrock_> they down;t load
[02:16] <Zamadatx> can i expand my partition without damaging ubuntu?
[02:16] <ruMeL> well.
[02:16] <lazertek> Zamadatx: check out on google images how some customized ubuntu look... cuz i bet your first install looks ins't mindblowing
[02:16] <moppen_> sorry for my broken english ;-)
[02:17] <bobrock_> .time
[02:17] <smallfoot-> maco, one of the nicest things is that you dont have to run antispyware and antivirus and clean their computer all the time. my dumbass brother had a worm on his computer that spammed so much that our ISP shut our internet down and we were without internet connection
[02:17] <Zamadatx> i made the bottom bar 100% transparent and added an auto hide sidebar
[02:17] <gman_> Shujah: it says sudo: ./alsa-info.sh: command not found
[02:17] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, that s not much
[02:17] <lazertek> Zamadatx: once you customize it you can make it look better than vista and mac... like mine ... lol ;)
[02:17] <Zamadatx> lol
[02:17] <lee> zelrikriando, yes. I went to the Desktop size tab and tried to change the number of desktops to 2 and it will not let me
[02:17] <moppen_> so i want to use the nativ driver for the bcm4311 chip
[02:17] <szhil1232> lazertek envyNG isnt in package manager and googling it brings up a page that says that it has conflicts with some ubuntu utility, you use it on ubuntu without issues?
[02:17] <Zamadatx> i dont know if i want to change from human theme
[02:17] <ruMeL> I should go sleeping, I think.
[02:17] <suselin> try enablin 3d and compiz
[02:17] <maco> tarelerulz: is it mounting automatically when you plug it in, or did you manually do it on the command line?
[02:17] <ruMeL> "sorry for my broken english" too
[02:17] <Zamadatx> i dont like the desktop pic but dont know of antything that matches
[02:17] <lazertek> szhil1232: go to www.getdeb.net and download it there
[02:18] <jasedude> Hey, is any one here a WINE expert? I work for the IT department at my school and my boss is considering a switch to Ubuntu instead of vista, But I need to get one program we use working before we could switch.
[02:18] <szhil1232> suselin: was that at me?
[02:18] <Zamadatx> is it just me or do the ones that say i have broken english speak it the best?
[02:18] <maco> smallfoot-: i have done no such thing, yet i still havent had internet for 2 months now
[02:18] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, and lee too , check those videos http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=jmA0VMd0w1E
[02:18] <Zamadatx> i dont have flash yet ill get it
[02:18] <tarelerulz> maco , it would not auto mout so I manually mounted the ipod .
[02:18] <mofux> hi, i have hardy running with a radeon 9600 + fglrx driver + xserver-xgl and video / scrolling of internetpages is kinda slow, when i try to remove xserver-xgl all i get is a white screen when i log back in to gnome... i couldn't find anything usefull on the net yet, could you guys maybe point me?
[02:18] <zelrikriando> lee, that is hmm...hold on
[02:18] <suselin> try the ubuntu indiana jones wallpaper
[02:18] <lazertek> szhil1232: isn't it great ubuntu does the dependecies so great!... One of the main reasons ubuntu ranked 1str
[02:18] <smallfoot-> suselin, where can i find that?
[02:18] <moppen_> lazertek, you have an idea?
[02:19] <moppen_> for my wireless driver problem
[02:19] <zelrikriando> lee, the virtual horizontal size is what you want to increase
[02:19] <maco> tarelerulz: when you manually mount it, if you want your user to have read/write access, you have to use -o (for options) uid=tarelerulz,rw (replace tarelerulz with your username on the computer)
[02:19] <Zamadatx> is java faster in ubuntu with the same resources as windows ?
[02:19] <vvd> hey, is it possible to disable auth for nm-applet (using nm-applet without authenticating)?
[02:19] <suselin> gnome look site
[02:19] <maco> tarelerulz: the uid= make you the owner
[02:19] <lazertek> moppen_: if you're wifi isnt out of the box compatible there are workarounds like ndiswrapper and madwifi... what card do you have?
[02:19] <maco> vvd: why would it need authentication?
[02:19] <Zamadatx> and wwho came up with calling it gnome?
[02:20] <maco> Zamadatx: its an acronym, so it's actually GNOME
[02:20] <suselin> Zamadatx, a troll did
[02:20] <moppen_> it works with ndiswrapper
[02:20] <vvd> maco: when i wanna use it (change stuff like IP) it asks for a passwd
[02:20] <Zamadatx> whats it stand for?
[02:20] <szhil1232> theres no results under envy (hardy heron) for getdeb.net
[02:20] <moppen_> but ndiswrapper doesnt support monitoring
[02:20] <lazertek> moppen_: that what is the problem?
[02:20] <Zamadatx> if my drivers all work perfect should i even getwine?
[02:20] <lee> zelrikriando, that is it. Thanks for the video too.
[02:20] <moppen_> so i will try the nativ driver
[02:20] <szhil1232> err no results from search
[02:20] <lazertek> moppen_: i'm sure you can monitor
[02:21] <moppen_> with ndiswrapper???
[02:21] <Zamadatx> is compiz in the ubuntu app list?
[02:21] <maco> vvd: network manager does?  it shouldn't.  are you sure you don't mean network-admin (which i think comes if you switch to manual mode instead of network manager's automatic roaming mode)?
[02:21] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, yeah
[02:21] <taxidude221> bye guys ima go  test if ubuntu works on my other pc with the live cd i got
[02:21] <maco> Zamadatx: its preinstalled
[02:21] <smallfoot-> is there any website where people can go whine about everything that sucks in ubuntu?
[02:21] <Zamadatx> do i have to restart for it?
[02:21] <maco> Zamadatx: wine has nothing to do with drivers
[02:21] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, you should look at the vid I linked
[02:21] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, usually not :)
[02:21] <lazertek> moppen_: let me make sure
[02:21] <Zamadatx> i have seen compiz
[02:21] <bliZZardz> i have feisty running and want to upgrade to hardy - i have the cd for the latter. Do i need to upgrade to gusty and then to Hardy? which is the quickest and the safest way?
[02:21] <Zamadatx> i wanted it on windows
[02:21] <AMDpenguin> how can i use Fat32 as /
[02:21] <vvd> maco: dunno exactly, but i have enabled manual config (not roaming)
[02:22] <Zamadatx> the desktop is why i first decided i wanted ubuntu
[02:22] <Jordan_U> AMDpenguin: Why do you want to?
[02:22] <lazertek> moppen_: download ndismonitor and you'll be able to monitor
[02:22] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, my video is a tutorial not a show off thing
[02:22] <maco> vvd: then that's network-admin (system -> administration -> networking)
[02:22] <Zamadatx> o
[02:22] <Zamadatx> i ont need tutorials i need time to guess whow to do stuff
[02:22] <moppen_> if i type iwpriv wlan0 on my terminal there doesnt stand monitoring
[02:22] <maco> vvd: um, maybe system -> admin -> authorization will let you set it so that network-admin doesn't question you
[02:22] <maco> vvd: i havent played around with PolicyKit enough to tell you how exactly
[02:22] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, You should watch it anyway :)
[02:22] <AMDpenguin> fat32 is way better than ext3
[02:22] <moppen_> ndismonitor? i will search it on google
[02:22] <maco> AMDpenguin: ehh??
[02:22] <Zamadatx> isthere 5 star popularity or only 4 star in add remove programs?
[02:23] <maco> AMDpenguin: how so? it's not even journalled
[02:23] <vvd> maco: i have looked there too, but had no luck yet. ty
[02:23] <lazertek> moppen_: let me know if you get that to work... it should
[02:23] <smallfoot-> AMDpenguin, what the fuck are you smoking?
[02:23]  * Jordan_U smells a troll
[02:23] <moppen_> ok wait! i try it now
[02:23] <Pici> smallfoot-: Watch the language
[02:23] <AMDpenguin> umm i would use JFS but JFS isnt supported by ubuntu
[02:23] <khajavi> rymastersys dosnt work for m. it doesnt create an ISO of my Ubuntu? any alternative software to create a remaster of my ubuntu?
[02:23] <smallfoot-> Pici, sorry
[02:24] <ruMeL> good night folks
[02:24] <AMDpenguin> reiser and xfs both suck
[02:24] <Zamadatx> in wich submenu is compiz located in the application menu?
[02:24] <bazhang> smallfoot-, no cursing
[02:24]  * zelrikriando is using a gutsy repository on hardy heron and is proud of it
[02:24] <gway9000> there is only one complaint i have against ubuntu - my ATI card did not work after an upgrade and my new Nvidia card will not enable 3d so i had to dual boot to "enjoy" the 3d stuff" no worries though i will see what october brings
[02:24] <AMDpenguin> oh well
[02:24] <AMDpenguin> I will use JFS
[02:25] <Zamadatx> my ati card worked but ti was restricted at first
[02:25] <AMDpenguin> Too bad Microsoft have to be bitches about NTFS
[02:25] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, it's more like in the administration menu....and you want to install compizconfig-settings-manager too
[02:25] <lazertek> zelrikriando: why?
[02:25] <bazhang> AMDpenguin, take chat elsewhere please.
[02:25] <Zamadatx> isnt there a program to read ntfs from ubuntu?
[02:25] <AMDpenguin> yeah there is
[02:25] <smallfoot-> bazhang, sorry, it wont happen again...
[02:25] <Zamadatx> whats it calle dmy whole comp is ntfs
[02:25] <lazertek> Zamadatx: ntfs-3g
[02:25] <smallfoot-> bazhang, can you make me unbanned from #ubuntu-offtopic?
[02:25] <N1N31NCHN41L5> Zamadatx:  look in ubuntu forums for easy full install of compiz-fusion
[02:25] <khajavi> how can I create iso of my ubuntu?
[02:25] <Zamadatx> besides this second hd
[02:25] <Jordan_U> Zamadatx: Yes, it should mount by defualt
[02:25] <Zamadatx> o
[02:25] <khajavi> create live cd?
[02:25] <Zamadatx> ok
[02:25] <zelrikriando> lazertek, because I have no choice...oh yes...I can compile from source...but have no time to fix it
[02:26] <AMDpenguin> Yeah but if you suffer a crash on ubuntu with TNFS mounted you cant remount it
[02:26] <smallfoot-> AMDpenguin, yeah, NTFS seems reasonably good... its a shame its closed :(
[02:26] <Zamadatx> so its not that reliable?
[02:26] <smallfoot-> bazhang, thanks
[02:26] <kindofabuzz> hola!
[02:26] <AMDpenguin> at least APPLe gives detailed Info on HFS+
[02:26] <smallfoot-> oh, didnt know that
[02:26] <lazertek> khajavi: u mean of the ubuntu installation or the programs
[02:27] <bobrock> how can I make an image of my ubuntu partition
[02:27] <tato> I have a partition, in that partition I've copied the windows xp cd-rom, how can I make GRUB boot it as if it were the cd-rom?
[02:27] <Zamadatx> i just got compiz off he add remove programs thing but whered the files go to open it
[02:27] <kindofabuzz> bobrock, partimage
[02:27] <bliZZardz> guys..[reporting Q] i have feisty running and want to upgrade to hardy - i have the cd for the latter. Do i need to upgrade to gusty and then to Hardy? which is the quickest and the safest way?
[02:27] <bobrock> ok
[02:27] <Jordan_U> Zamadatx: The only problem with it is that it cannot *fix* problems with NTFS, so if you pull the plug without unmounting properly you need to run chkdisk from windows
[02:27] <gway9000> bobrock: partimage
[02:27] <moppen_> lazertek, i dont find a download for ndismonitor
[02:27] <AMDpenguin> none of the linux filesystems can even compete with NTFS
[02:27] <Zamadatx> is there anything that makes it better/
[02:27] <bliZZardz> running [gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"] doesnt throw any promps
[02:27] <khajavi> lazertek: I want to create a Live iso of my curent ubuntu
[02:27] <zelrikriando> lazertek, I really should fix that though :)
[02:28] <lazertek> Jordan_U: you need to use ntfsfix yo fix ntfs partitions
[02:28] <bazhang> AMDpenguin, please stop with the chat.
[02:28] <evilbug> does anyone know how i can make it so that my macbook pro (2nd gen) doesn't heat up like crazy with no extra bg processes (fresh install) and just xchat and pidgin running?
[02:28] <AMDpenguin> bazhang: what chat?
[02:28] <kindofabuzz> !ot | kindofabuzz
[02:28] <lazertek> khajavi: just make and iso of your file system then
[02:28] <Zamadatx> if i just downlaoded compiz where do i open it from?
[02:28] <smallfoot-> AMDpenguin, ext4 is on its way...
[02:28] <lazertek> khajavi: but that wont let you install it
[02:28] <Zamadatx> whats gonna be in ext4?
[02:29] <lazertek> zelrikriando: probably
[02:29] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, from where did you download it and which package?
[02:29] <AMDpenguin> Just Extents thats it
[02:29] <smallfoot-> Zamadatx, i dont know
[02:29] <Zamadatx> add removeprograms thing
[02:29] <smallfoot-> AMDpenguin, whats so good about NTFS compared to ext3?
[02:29] <lazertek> moppen_: let me check
[02:29] <zelrikriando> lazertek, I have libraries issues :D
[02:29] <naruttebayo> Does anyone know of a good Desktop Recorder for ubuntu?
[02:29] <lazertek> what libraries...
[02:29] <amatson97> hello hello any one who has got desmume for HH ubuntu 8.04 could they PM me i really need help
[02:29] <khajavi> naruttebayo: gtk-recorder is very nice
[02:30] <Zamadatx> where is link for compiz if i downloaded from add remove programs thing
[02:30] <AMDpenguin> smallfoot: lets see                     B+ trees no limit of subfolders extents and File in MFT record
[02:30] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, which packages ?
[02:30] <naruttebayo> khajavi: Thanks very much :D
[02:30] <amatson97> naruttebayo, audacity is a good one
[02:30] <smallfoot-> AMDpenguin, oh
[02:30] <Zamadatx> desktop effects
[02:30] <lazertek> Zamadatx: go to system --=> Preferemces
[02:30] <Zamadatx> its al that came up for compiz
[02:30] <Zamadatx> k
[02:30] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, compiz can be configured through Preferences
[02:30] <AMDpenguin> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[02:30] <AMDpenguin> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ntfs
[02:31] <landslide> is it possible to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[02:31] <zelrikriando> Zamadatx, assuming you got the right packages :)
[02:31] <Zamadatx> someone edit that article so it says ext3 is better lol
[02:31] <amatson97> hello hello any one who has got desmume for HH ubuntu 8.04 could they PM me i really need help
[02:31] <td123> Zamadatx: what article?.
[02:31] <tarelerulz> I did this to the dirotory I mount my ipod in sudo chown -hR tarelerulz /media/ipod and I get this chown: changing ownership of `/media/ipod/Recordings': Operation not permitted.  What is wrong
[02:31] <Zamadatx> the wikipedia article sent by amdpenguin
[02:31] <zelrikriando> lazertek, it's a library that is obsolete in hardy :)
[02:31] <bobrock> partimage does not work unless i umnount drive
[02:31] <Zamadatx> in apperance/
[02:31] <zelrikriando> lazertek, that's why I should reinstall from source :)
[02:31] <td123> Zamadatx: can you resend it again, I just joined
[02:31] <bobrock> how do I do that
[02:32] <Zamadatx> i didnt send
[02:32] <AMDpenguin> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[02:32] <lazertek> zelrikriando: isn't there a source repository?
[02:32] <pteeb> i need MSVBVM60.DLL, able to be installed on ubuntu?
[02:32] <amatson97> has any one got desmume ??
[02:32] <zelrikriando> lazertek, for gutsy...hence the problem :)
[02:32] <Zamadatx> is there a registry in ubuntu?
[02:32] <AMDpenguin> no
[02:32] <bobrock> quit
[02:32] <Zamadatx> and who comes up with the releae names?
[02:32] <bobrock> exit
[02:33] <lazertek> zelrikriando: i c
[02:33] <AMDpenguin> everything in linux is a text file
[02:33] <gway9000> bobrock: there is a cd that incorporates partimage it is called PING
[02:33] <Zamadatx> teh names are all so random
[02:33] <lazertek> Zamadatx: the ubuntu developers
[02:33] <Jordan_U> Zamadatx: The release names are the year and month of release, ie: 8.10
[02:33] <zelrikriando> lazertek, http://mirror.phy.bnl.gov/debian-root/ubuntu/
[02:33] <AMDpenguin> i mean the config files are in text files. Its not bloated crap like microsoft
[02:33] <Zamadatx> ya but the utsy somehting names after that
[02:33] <zelrikriando> lazertek, if you find an easy way around...I am opened to suggestions
[02:33] <Zamadatx> gutsy something*
[02:34] <Jordan_U> Zamadatx: Those are development code names, like longhorn
[02:34] <moppen_> lazertek, you had check it?
[02:34] <Zamadatx> well longhorn doesnt sound to odd
[02:34] <jm2k> i'd like to remove all startup scripts and apps and only leave the essentials. How to?
[02:34] <Zamadatx> whats the control alt delete in ubuntu?
[02:34] <lazertek> moppen_: still looking
[02:35] <moppen_> thank you very much :-)
[02:35] <lazertek> zelrikriando: let me look... whats the name of the package you want
[02:35] <jm2k> where can i find a list of essential startups for Ubuntu Hardy ?
[02:35] <smallfoot-> is there any place you can whine about ubuntu?
[02:35] <moppen_> i dont find it
[02:35] <Zamadatx> why would u whine about it
[02:35] <gnuB_Chris_> ok.  still working on this RO fs issue.  Is it possible to umount everything and then mount -a?
[02:35] <zelrikriando> lazertek, several packages...it's quite a big thing
[02:35] <Zamadatx> whats the control alt delete keys in ubuntu
[02:35] <bazhang> smallfoot-, not here; perhaps #defuse
[02:35] <gway9000> Zamadatx: you will notice that a lot of the linux symbols are animals - that is because that when all the geeks were programming in smoked filled rooms that was all they saw from inhaling all the smoke
[02:35] <zelrikriando> lazertek, let me check which library I need
[02:35] <Zamadatx> lol
[02:35] <jm2k> smallfoot-: this channel is for fun, whining wont get u far.
[02:35] <smallfoot-> Zamadatx, there many stuff i dont like, i cant find any good CAD software, paint software dont have 16 bit color channel, etc
[02:36] <AMDpenguin> an ro FIlesystem means the FIlesystem is mest up
[02:36] <lucas_> hey people whats goin on with ubuntu updates... it uninstall firefox and now i cant install it again
[02:36] <Zamadatx> get wine and cad
[02:36] <lazertek> moppen_: here you go
[02:36] <smallfoot-> bazhang, nobody there :(
[02:36] <SodaKiller> choose a different mrror
[02:36] <jm2k> smallfoot-: meant *help
[02:36] <mftom> just wondering...anyone ever have pidgin close randomly on them?
[02:36] <lazertek> moppen_: http://ndismonitor.sourceforge.net/
[02:36] <Zamadatx> no unless im out of ram
[02:36] <AMDpenguin> I laugh when windows xp runs better in virtualbox than a physical install
[02:36] <jm2k> smallfoot-: tell us ur problem, maybe we provide solution.
[02:37] <moppen_> lazertek, thank you very much!
[02:37] <moppen_> :-)
[02:37] <amatson97> dudes need help i have looked at the #desmume no one is home is any one here familiar with the software
[02:37] <lazertek> moppen_: no prob
[02:37] <mftom> not only does pidgin close randomly...my ubuntu freezes up from time to time and the only way to restart is hold down the power button
[02:37] <bazhang> AMDpenguin, take the chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:37] <Jordan_U> lucas_: What happens when you try to install firefox?
[02:37] <zelrikriando> lazertek, libkernlib1  and libpacklib1 are the lib's that arent available on hardy
[02:37] <jm2k> how do i remove startup scripts?
[02:37] <Zamadatx> when i use virtaulbox it always stays at 100% cpu even with a puppy linux runing a text based os
[02:37] <smallfoot-> jm2k, well GTK applications look like shit on other distros, which gives Linux a bad reputation, many sites you can see applications and they look like 1990
[02:37] <zelrikriando> lazertek, I need those to install something :)
[02:37] <Fezzler> Tried to fix Compiz issue now monitor will not set to correct resolution.  Computer keeps asking to restart.  Nvidia GeForce FX 5500 AGP
[02:37] <ronin12345> What is a good peice of software for running a proxy on a webserver?
[02:37] <Zamadatx> 0$
[02:38] <zelrikriando> lazertek, but I think the best way is to find stuff from the right repository :)
[02:38] <bazhang> no cursing smallfoot-
[02:38] <Simotempler> if /boot/grub/menu.lst is blank and i want to fix my grub after installing xp after ubuntu am i in trouble here?
[02:38] <smallfoot-> bazhang, sorry
[02:38] <gway9000> !soap
[02:38] <Zamadatx> can i intall other os's without worrying about the grub?
[02:38] <Jordan_U> ronin12345: squid is one I hear used a lot
[02:38] <lucas_> Jordan_U, its in spanish something like I should check if repositories are completed, but they are and all i did was an update, it uninstall some packages and firefox it was something about a partial update or something like that
[02:38] <smallfoot-> jm2k, linux doesnt support ACPI 3
[02:38] <lazertek> zelrikriando: or get the source and compile it on hardy... that's the same thing as getting it from there repository
[02:38] <SodaKiller> I have installed ubuntu on a tablet pc (viewsonic) all is working fine execpt the pen stylus. it did have "wacom" drivers already installed.  is it safe to assume that the wacom drivers would only install if ubuntu detected somekind of pen device during installation?
[02:38] <smallfoot-> jm2k, no gui to mount ISO images
[02:39] <td123> smallfoot-: if the program does the job then there shouldn't be a need to change it. eyecandy is not first priority on GNU/Linux
[02:39] <Jordan_U> lucas_: Did you recently upgrade from another release?
[02:39] <Zamadatx> and can ubuntu boot from wan like open solaris?
[02:39] <smallfoot-> jm2k, no gui to rename labels on partitions
[02:39] <tarelerulz> It seem some problem can be solved reboot or pluging something in again
[02:39] <smallfoot-> jm2k, cant change disk quota for users
[02:39] <lucas_> Jordan_U, nope... I just did a sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:39] <Fezzler> How can a fix a low monitor resolution issue?
[02:39] <smallfoot-> jm2k, no bluetooth 2.1 support
[02:39] <zelrikriando> lazertek, actually it's a plugin I want to install...the software is installed...so I dont want to touch it too much :) (I am scared)
[02:39] <jm2k> smalfoot-: unfortunately, there aren't many graphic/GUI designers interested in Linux... when it becomes more popular, we'll see them flock to us and abandon Windows.
[02:39] <gway9000> whatever happen to google to find what you need
[02:39] <Zamadatix> ell this is differrent
[02:39] <Jordan_U> lucas_: apt-get upgrade can't remove packages
[02:39] <smallfoot-> jm2k, no LAB color support in GIMP
[02:39] <tarelerulz> I would love to know how the permissioni works when something is auto load like an ipod . Do it youself seem not to work at all
[02:40] <lucas_> Jordan_U, it did man
[02:40] <smallfoot-> jm2k, no support for EFS on NTFS
[02:40] <smallfoot-> jm2k, no RGBA channel in GTK
[02:40] <bazhang> smallfoot-, please open a PM with jm2k or go to #defuse for serial complaining, thanks.
[02:40] <jm2k> smallfoot-: use GParted for disk quota or something.
[02:40] <Zamadatix> where do i chnge the font color in schat?
[02:40] <smallfoot-> bazhang, nobody is in #defuse
[02:40] <Zamadatix> xchat
[02:40] <bazhang> smallfoot-, not here.
[02:40] <lucas_> firefox:
[02:40] <lucas_>  Depende: firefox-3.0 pero no va a ser instalad
[02:41] <smallfoot-> jm2k, thats just tedious, it would be an ugly hack
[02:41] <jm2k> bazhang: thx ;)
[02:41] <lenswipe> i has a problem with hardy, anyone interested?
[02:41] <lazertek> zelrikriando: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/libkernlib1-dev/download
[02:41] <lucas_> and when i try to install firefox-3 it says it needs to uninstall other applications like epiphany and then i cant do much more
[02:41] <zelrikriando> lazertek, I have the -dev installed :)
[02:41] <Jordan_U> lucas_: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[02:41] <lenswipe> Hardy Wont play some DVDs, anyone interested???
[02:41] <amatson97> dudes need help i have looked at the #desmume no one is home is any one here familiar with the software
[02:41] <lenswipe> ’╗┐Hardy Wont play some DVDs, anyone interested???
[02:42] <lenswipe> ’╗┐Hardy Wont play some DVDs, anyone interested???
[02:42] <td123> smallfoot-: please stop complaining, if you don't like linux, get used to it or go to windows.
[02:42] <moppen_> lazertek, i dont can compile it
[02:42] <Zamadatx> whats the control alt delete in ubuntu?
[02:42] <lazertek> zelrikriando: don't you find the install version in those repositories
[02:42] <crashanddie> Let's try this once more. I have a Bluetooth Logitech Mouse, the mouse refuses to pair with the computer. It does work on a macbook, nokia n810, and PS3. Ubuntu sees it but the connection/name request times out.
[02:42] <lenswipe> ’╗┐Hardy Wont play some DVDs, anyone interested???
[02:42] <lucas_> Jordan_U, where...
[02:42] <Blaqlight> lenswipe, im sorry I didn't get that the first three times you said it
[02:42] <SodaKiller> stop spamming lenswipe
[02:42] <bazhang> !dvd | lenswipe
[02:42] <td123> Zamadatx: it's system->administration->system monitor
[02:42] <smallfoot-> td123, but i do like linux, because it is free software, but at the same time there are many shortcomings which i dont like
[02:42] <lazertek> lenswipe: download libcssdvd and libcssdvd2
[02:42] <moppen_> lazertek, my terminal shows me error messages
[02:42] <Zamadatx> any shortcut keys?
[02:42] <lenswipe> I can play DVDs i just cany play SOME dvds
[02:42] <zelrikriando> lazertek, what do you mean?
[02:43] <jm2k> smallfoot-: unfortunately, i'm not a linux guru myself only web developer, but u'll find help in this channel, just ask ur question on how to fix something and wait in line for an answer or lookup on the web for the solution.
[02:43] <lazertek> moppen_: what error
[02:43] <Jordan_U> lucas_: Where to get the file or where to paste it?
[02:43] <lenswipe> lazertek: Its the interactual ones
[02:43] <lucas_> Jordan_U, where to paste is
[02:43] <lucas_> Jordan_U, where to paste it
[02:43] <cristian> hello
[02:43] <Jordan_U> !paste | lucas_
[02:43] <lazertek> zelrikriando: i mean you don't find a version that downloads and installs... usually is right above the dev in synaptic
[02:43] <moppen_> main.c: In Funktion ┬╗read_config_from_file_desc┬½:
[02:43] <moppen_> main.c:825: Warnung: Unvertr├żgliche implizite Deklaration der eingebauten Funktion ┬╗strchr┬½
[02:43] <td123> smallfoot-: you have to learn. gnu/linux is not windows. it won't act the same as windows. one of the most powerful things about it is the use of the terminal as unfriendly as that may sound
[02:43] <amatson97> is any one here into DS emulators
[02:43] <the_darkside_986> Is it normal to have multiple gvfsd and gvfsd-burn,-trashd processes running? I have a lot of them according to System Monitor.
[02:43] <Zamadatx> i am
[02:43] <moppen_> my german ubuntu^^ ;-)
[02:44] <lazertek> lenswipe: u mean like hd dvd or blu ray
[02:44] <landslide> i've installed kde after installing 8.04... but my start-up screen now shows KBUNTU.. how do I get it back to UBUNTU?
[02:44] <smallfoot-> jm2k, i dont need help, i want what is missing
[02:44] <zelrikriando> lazertek, like a non-dev version ? no they removed it
[02:44] <SodaKiller> has anybody configured a the stylus on a tablet pc?
[02:44] <lenswipe> lazertek: No its the ones that come with a player bundled with them, interactual player, thats the ones VLC cant play
[02:44] <lazertek> landslide: kubuntu just means ubuntu but kde desktop
[02:44] <td123> smallfoot-: if you want to, ask me a question describing you're situation
[02:44] <lazertek> zelrikriando: ah
[02:44] <Zamadatx> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/games/desmume
[02:44] <smallfoot-> td123, i know... and i really do appreciete the terminal, its great for shell scripts, but at the same time, i want to be able todo many of the things from a GUI too
[02:44] <lenswipe> lazertek: There are others and what happens is when i press play VLC just closes... :'(
[02:44] <lucas_> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/26981/
[02:45] <lazertek> lenswipe: i c
[02:45] <landslide> lazertek: yeah i get that... i just want to change it back to ubuntu
[02:45] <zelrikriando> lazertek, that's the whole point actually, they removed stuff in hardy (or renamed or other..)
[02:45] <Zamadatx> is it faster to have my swap file on a different hdd?
[02:45] <lazertek> lenswipe: let me check
[02:45] <lenswipe> lazertek: TYVM :)
[02:45] <td123> smallfoot-: what kind of things would you like to do on a gui
[02:45] <piju_> zelrikriando, my temp now is 58 degres, is it normal ?
[02:45] <jm2k> Have certain apps running but remain idle'd/sleeping always. Are these apps necessary?
[02:46] <zelrikriando> piju_, YES
[02:46] <smallfoot-> td123, change disk partition label name
[02:46] <lazertek> landslide: there is command you can type in terminal and it will ask you which do you want to set default.. check forums
[02:46] <k350> Vad heter pptp klienten i ubuntu? Vet inte riktigt vad jag ska ladda hem h├żr...
[02:46] <boselecta> is pbcopy aliased to something in Ubuntu?
[02:46] <lenswipe> piju: No your temperature is NOT normal, you should see a doctor and or a hospital!!
[02:46] <td123> smallfoot-: try gparted
[02:46] <smallfoot-> k350, #ubuntu-se
[02:46] <landslide> lazertek: k
[02:46] <boselecta> does it work the way i want it to?
[02:46] <piju_> zelrikriando, what is ur temp now ?
[02:46] <the_darkside_986> Is it normal to have multiple gvfsd and gvfsd-burn,-trashd processes running? I have a lot of them according to System Monitor.
[02:46] <Zamadatx> whats the average computer teemperature?
[02:46] <zelrikriando> piju_, as long as you dont have kernel panic or your laptop gets too hot under your hands you are safe
[02:46] <k350> smallfoot-: oups..thoug tI where there:-)
[02:46] <Jordan_U> lucas_: Why don't you have universe enabled?
[02:47] <zelrikriando> piju_, 55┬░ but I can make it increase
[02:47] <lucas_> Jordan_U, ok check that
[02:47] <piju_> zelrikriando, how ?
[02:47] <Zamadatx> besides commpiz what should i get?
[02:47] <gnuB_Chris_> hey cirkit:  any other ideas for me on the read only fs?
[02:47] <zelrikriando> piju_, by making my laptop busier (watch video and stuff...)
[02:48] <td123> smallfoot-: wait, would do you mean label? there can only be mount points, there are no labels.. and also the /dev/ representations
[02:48] <Zamadatx> is the gnome partition editor good?
[02:48] <bobrock> I have problem with my maudio pci sound card it works but have problems with only left channel working but when I move the volume level it work on both channels
[02:48] <td123> smallfoot-: you don't give drives labels, you give them mount points...
[02:48] <Starkid> hello everyone, i have been trying to make partitions for ubuntu manually, i already have 2fat32 partitions on my 80gb sata, i tried to make but it says , cant exceed 4 primary partitions, can u guy help me with it? when i make / and boot partitions i cant make swap :S
[02:48] <ahorriblemess> hi everyone, I'm using pidgin right now, and when I block someone, I still get IMs from them. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[02:48] <smallfoot-> td123, well, C: System, D: Music, E: Media, i have like that... and when I mount them, they have those names on the Ubuntu desktop
[02:48] <td123> Zamadatx: gparted is good
[02:49] <Zamadatx> is that installed on ubuntu or kept on the cd?
[02:49] <td123> smallfoot-: oh, you still have ntfs partitions then?
[02:49] <piju_> zelrikriando, what the max value u could have ?
[02:49] <smallfoot-> td123, yeah, i have two disks, 1 with ext3 partitions, other disk with NTFS partitions
[02:49] <lazertek> lenswipe: use xine in totem or download ogle... check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67253
[02:49] <smallfoot-> td123, i dual-boot, ubuntu & xp
[02:49] <zelrikriando> piju_, the last kernel panic I had was at more than 100┬░C
[02:49] <td123> smallfoot-: oh, you're trying to change the disk label through ubuntu?
[02:49] <smallfoot-> td123, yeah
[02:50] <zelrikriando> piju_, and you are far from that
[02:50] <the_darkside_986> Zamadatx: there has been only 1 time in my whole life I have managed to resize an NTFS partition w/o ruining it. DEFRAG it, preferably about 12 times. Belive me :/
[02:50] <piju_> zelrikriando, are u using hardy ? on laptop or desktop ?
[02:50] <Zamadatx> can i change filesystem to something else?
[02:50] <td123> smallfoot-: uhhh why not through windows then?
[02:50] <Taylor> does audacity have change pitch effect in Linux?
[02:50] <zelrikriando> piju_, laptop hardy
[02:50] <bmunat> i've downloaded 8.04.1 from a couple different sources and I can't get the iso to successfully burn... and the md5 comes out different from what is listed on the ubuntu md5 hashes page.... anyone else having this problem? and any suggestions?
[02:50] <piju_> ur cpu ? brand ?
[02:50] <smallfoot-> td123, sure, i can reboot... its just that there really ought to be a GUI todo it from ubuntu
[02:50] <zelrikriando> piju_, duo centrino
[02:50] <lazertek> Zamadatx: what do u mean
[02:50] <lucas_> Jordan_U, it keeps saying something i think its some kind of bug in ubuntu
[02:50] <amatson97> is any one here into DS emulators
[02:50] <Zamadatx> did you burtn at a slwo speed?
[02:50] <piju_> zelrikriando, 32 or 64 ?
[02:50] <zelrikriando> piju_, my laptop is an ASUS
[02:50] <Zamadatx> i burned at 1x speed
[02:51] <zelrikriando> piju_, 32 as far as I know :)
[02:51] <Jordan_U> lucas_: What keeps saying what?
[02:51] <Zamadatx> the drive in ubuntu is called filesystem can i change the name?
[02:51] <moppen_> yeahh it runs
[02:51] <td123> smallfoot-: I found out how to do it :P
[02:51] <zelrikriando> piju_, why are you concerned?
[02:51] <Starkid> ’╗┐i have been trying to make partitions for ubuntu manually, i already have 2fat32 partitions on my 80gb sata, i tried to make but it says , cant exceed 4 primary partitions, can u guy help me with it? when i make / and boot partitions i cant make swap :S, can someone help me with it?
[02:51] <lazertek> amatson97: there are some for ubuntu if you looking
[02:51] <lucas_> Jordan_U, it says it has broken packages
[02:51] <zelrikriando> piju_, if it heats too much....you will notice (kernel panic and stuff)
[02:52] <piju_> zelrikriando, before this, im using debian, its temp only around 36-45
[02:52] <smallfoot-> td123, how?
[02:52] <the_darkside_986> Starkid: you must use another tool such as GParted and make one extended partition. The Ubuntu partitioner isn't advanced enough for making fancy partitions like that.
[02:52] <Zamadatx> whats with all the programs that arer Kblah
[02:52] <td123> smallfoot-: first install ntfsprogs "sudo aptitude install ntfsprogs"
[02:52] <piju_> zelrikriando, when im using hardy, my laptop temps went to 60++ when i load lots of apps
[02:52] <piju_> zelrikriando, but not on debian