[07:40] <cjwatson> Image build errors: #is has fixed up iso.qa.ubuntu.com and I've re-posted the affected images
[07:44] <cjwatson> Wow, thanks to whomever almost cleared out component-mismatches
[07:55] <slangasek> y/w - they were all demotions, so it didn't require much thought ;)
[08:06] <slangasek> cjwatson: hey, I saw you landed support for UbuntuKylin in livecd-rootfs; what else is needed before we can turn on dailies?  Does it just need a properly-crafted cron entry?
[08:14] <cjwatson> slangasek: general cdimage support; I'll be working on that today
[08:14] <slangasek> ok
[08:52] <infinity> slangasek / cjwatson: Yeah, I've been shy about c-m, since it doesn't report on proposed, but I suspect most of the stuff in there was rather old and known-wrong by now.
[10:17] <xnox> slangasek: i was hoping to keep clvm in main, until we have an HA available solution without clvm.
[10:17] <xnox> and filed a seed change to that affect, but didn't get it mergerd.
[10:17] <xnox> will I need a M.I.R. now?
[10:29] <jpds> xnox: No, you can't use mir for HA.
[10:30] <jpds> ;-)
[10:30] <xnox> M.I.R.  - main inclusion reports != Mir display server
[10:31] <jpds> I was pulling your leg.
[10:31] <xnox> =) evil
[10:32] <xnox> this is a second unfortunate name clash. Mir vs M.I.R. and UDD vs UDD
[11:07] <Laney> Other RT members: Has anyone had thoughts on the logind FFe?
[11:16] <tumbleweed> I was avoiding thinking about it. My gut feeling was: "as decided at the last UDS", you mean "as decided at the UDS 2 days before FF" (although I know it's been in progress for longer than that)
[11:18] <Laney> there were some WIs about it from Copenhagen but the detailed implementation plan was decided last week I believe
[11:18] <Laney> I'll write down what I understand to be the steps in the bug but I'm not confident enough to take the decision
[12:32] <cjohnston> The upgrade of VirtualBox to 4.2 in raring broke vagrant. Vagrant has a new upstream release that isn't yet in debian. Would you guys rather just have a patch to fix what is broken, or the upstream release? I am assuming due to FF just a patch?
[13:00] <xnox> cjohnston: patch, please =)
[13:01] <cjohnston> ack
[13:01] <tumbleweed> cjohnston: if you have a simple patch, sure. But it's still early days of the FF, and vagrant is a leaf package, so your FFe would almost certainly be accepted
[13:04] <cjohnston> either way, debian does not have the 4.2 fix or the new upstream version, and there is nothing else that's released that we need to my knowledge, so I'll do a patch to make it quicker.. we already have one patch in from upstream
[13:05] <cjohnston> thanks guys
[14:21] <jbicha> does goffice need to be manually kicked to migrate out of -proposed? now that we have goffice0.8 there shouldn't be anything keeping it back, right?
[14:23] <stgraber> jbicha: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt shows that migrating goffice would break a whole bunch of stuff
[14:23] <jbicha> stgraber: but it's lying, right?
[14:23] <ScottK> jbicha: Why do you think that?
[14:24] <jbicha> goffice0.8 should be providing everything that gnucash & gnome-chemistry-utils needs
[14:25] <jbicha> do we need a no-change rebuild to unconfuse britney?
[14:25] <ScottK> Do they need rebuilding for the new version?
[14:25] <ScottK> Britney is rarely actually confused.  It's more commonly unclear about what is upsetting it.
[14:28] <cjwatson> Let me check
[14:28] <cjwatson> I suspect goffice and goffice0.8 need to be hinted in together.  I'll try that
[14:29] <cjwatson> A no-change rebuild will not help
[14:32] <cjwatson> Hinted.  Let's see how that works.
[14:45] <stgraber> smoser,utlemming: are you planning on doing a beta1 release for the cloud images (just wondering as you've done alpha2)?
[14:45]  * smartboyhw wonders about Xubuntu too
[14:45] <stgraber> smartboyhw: xubuntu is participating
[14:46] <smartboyhw> stgraber, /me doesn't see email
[14:46]  * smartboyhw throws his GMail
[14:46] <stgraber> smartboyhw: it wasn't a public e-mail
[14:46] <smartboyhw> stgraber, weird:P
[14:46] <smartboyhw> sorry then
[14:46]  * smartboyhw thinks almost everyone is in (except Desktop)
[14:55] <cjwatson> jbicha: That worked
[14:56] <stgraber> JackYu: ok, I marked both you and ypwong as contact for UbuntuKylin beta1
[14:57] <jbicha> cjwatson: great!
[14:57] <stgraber> JackYu: starting today at 21:00 UTC, images will start showing up under the beta1 milestone on iso.qa.ubuntu.com, you can test them there and report your results. Once you're happy with the images, let me know and I'll mark them ready for you.
[14:57] <stgraber> JackYu: for the announcement, I'll also need an URL to include pointing to some kind of announcement and release notes for UbuntuKylin
[14:58] <cjwatson> Well.  Hopefully
[14:58] <cjwatson> If I can make the builds work
[15:01] <cjwatson> I'm currently waiting for ubuntu-meta 1.296 to reach raring before I try again
[15:02] <JackYu> stgraber: thanks.
[15:03] <ScottK> cjwatson: Is there any chance of Ubuntu Gnome images today or is that the next iteration post-beta 1?
[15:04] <stgraber> cjwatson: I created the product on the iso tracker and updated the python branch to know where to push it. So hopefully the first succesful build should get properly published the whole way through
[15:04] <cjwatson> ScottK: I have to wait for https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/add-ubuntu-gnome/+merge/152548 to be reviewed/landed/tested/deployed
[15:04] <cjwatson> I plan to bug the Australians about it as soon as I see them online
[15:04] <ScottK> OK.  So later.  Thanks.
[15:06] <cjwatson> stgraber: Thanks.  I added a test case to match
[15:08] <JackYu> stgraber: any requirement of the URL? is the Wiki page OK? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuKylin or the forum website: http://www.ubuntukylin.com/ ?
[15:10] <rtg_> why is linux (3.8.0-12.21) still in -proposed ? shouldn't britenny have kicked it loose ?
[15:11] <rtg_> or is it spelled brittany ?
[15:11] <rtg_> doesn't look right either
[15:12] <stgraber> JackYu: most flavours give a URL to a specifc announcement, something like http://www.ubuntukylin.com/news/ubuntukylin-13.04-beta-1-announcement
[15:13] <stgraber> JackYu: that way the page remains relevant in the future and covers specifically what was done for the milestone
[15:13] <stgraber> JackYu: but that's up to you ;) if you prefer to simply point to the website or wiki, I'll just do that
[15:15] <cjwatson> rtg_: it's spelled "proposed-migration" :-)
[15:15] <cjwatson> (The tool on disk is spelled "britney")
[15:15] <rtg_> hmm
[15:15] <cjwatson> d-i hasn't been updated, for one thing.  I'll do that now
[15:16] <rtg_> cjwatson, is promotion dependent on d-i ?
[15:16] <cjwatson> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt has a list of packages broken
[15:16] <cjwatson> Yes
[15:16] <rtg_> ok
[15:16] <JackYu> stgraber: Sure. please use the website first. I will create a page soon and update the URL.
[15:17] <cjwatson> Yeah, it's just d-i.  Scroll down to the end of update_output.txt where it tries all of linux, linux-meta, and linux-signed at once
[15:17] <stgraber> JackYu: ok, let me know when you have the final URL. I don't technically need this until Thursday.
[15:17] <JackYu> stgraber: ok:)
[15:18] <rtg_> cjwatson, ok, guess I should learn how to update d-i
[15:19] <rtg_> I think apw has done it as well
[15:19] <cjwatson> meh, Adam and I are both fine with doing it, and it often needs to go along with archive admin too
[15:19] <rtg_> wfm
[15:21] <apw> rtg_, yeah it all goes wrong cause you need the aa to new things anyhow
[15:21] <cjwatson> d-i's on its way now
[15:36] <slangasek> xnox: binaries don't require an MIR
[15:38] <xnox> slangasek: ack.
[15:38] <xnox> slangasek: now the question is, how do I seed clvm into server-supported, without it appearing on the server.iso?
[15:38] <xnox> or shall I simply seed it into supported.
[15:39] <slangasek> xnox: "*supported" is unrelated to what goes on the ISO
[15:39] <stgraber> xnox: just use supported-misc-servers
[15:40] <stgraber> xnox: or one of the other supported-* if it's not server-specific
[15:40] <stgraber> supported-server is based on: supported-misc-servers supported-hardware-common supported-installer-common supported-network-common supported-sysadmin-common build-essential supported-development-common supported-kernel-common
[15:41] <xnox> awesome thanks.
[15:43] <xnox> that should do it, I hope.
[15:56] <stgraber> utlemming, smoser: so I'm going to remove the cloud images from the beta1 manifest for now. Let me know if you want to participate and I'll add you back in.
[16:06] <xnox> it worked =)
[16:10]  * slangasek promotes
[16:20] <infinity> rtg_, apw, cjwatson: FWIW, I'm not against the kernel team learning to do d-i ABI bumps after the override/promotion bugfix is landed, but right now d-i promotions (well, more precisely: kernel promotions) explode the whole world and need an AA to babysit, so not much point.
[16:21] <rtg_> infinity, ack
[16:21] <infinity> cjwatson: Speaking of, I'll get this override race.  Thanks for the upload.
[16:22] <cjwatson> infinity: you might not have to
[16:22] <infinity> cjwatson: Oh, did your fix land?  In that case, I'll check and see if I have to, and do a happy dance if I don't. :)
[16:22] <cjwatson> infinity: yeah, deployed this afternoon, but please do check
[16:22]  * infinity nods.
[16:23] <cjwatson> (maybe we should do that d-i meta-udeb magic before encouraging more people to do d-i bumps, too)
[16:23] <infinity> Yeah.  I'll do that this week and upload it after stgraber's beta to avoid being disruptive.
[16:24] <infinity> Oh, the other minor gotcha is the part where amd64 builds silently ignore linux-signed if it's out of sync.
[16:24] <infinity> I think maybe we should just make that a hard failure instead of a WTF.
[16:24] <infinity> Otherwise, people will get caught by signed being unbuilt or NEW again and again.
[16:25] <cjwatson> infinity: There was a tedious syntactic problem in pkg-list
[16:25] <cjwatson> It's optional because otherwise other architectures break ...
[16:26] <cjwatson> So I need to fix that properly
[16:26] <infinity> cjwatson: Sure, but one could just do a test in Makefile and error out.
[16:26] <infinity> cjwatson: Since there's already a part where we copy signed if it's there.
[16:26] <cjwatson> I guess, but that sucks when we have all this fancy pkg-list stuff.
[16:26]  * infinity shrugs.
[16:26] <cjwatson> But be my guest :)
[16:26] <infinity> If you want to make pkg-list do something fancy, go nuts, I just want the build to not silently succeed and be broken. :)
[17:13]  * cjwatson fixes the cause of that Lubuntu image build failure
[17:13] <cjwatson> Kylin looking more promising ...
[17:14] <phillw> cjwatson: thanks :)
[17:28] <ScottK> stgraber: I think we're about at the time where migration freezes should go in place.  Since you volunteered to take care of that ....  If you look in the bzr history for the block I put up for Alpha 1/2, please just use that one again.
[17:28] <stgraber> ScottK: ok, will do
[17:28] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^
[17:29] <ScottK> Thanks.
[17:29] <Riddell> aww I wanted to upload one last thing
[17:30]  * Riddell hurries
[17:32] <ScottK> Riddell: We can still force stuff through as needed.
[17:33] <Laney> unblock overrides block afaik
[17:37] <stgraber> damn lillypilly is really slow today... I've been waiting for rmadison results for the past 3min ;)
[17:38] <cjwatson>  17:38:15 up 93 days, 19:56,  9 users,  load average: 21.35, 24.57, 19.35
[17:38] <stgraber> Riddell: what's up with your qtwebkit-source force hint? it's been there for a while now and the package is still in proposed
[17:38] <ogra_> cjwatson, oh, a pandaboard compiling webkit ?
[17:39] <ogra_> (on SD card)
[17:39] <cjwatson> no, lillypilly, I fear
[17:39] <ogra_> ouch
[17:39] <Riddell> stgraber: dunno, I've not looked into it alas
[17:39]  * ogra_ hopes they didnt secretly replace lillypilly with a panda then
[17:40] <cjwatson> Oho!  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntukylin/daily-live/current/
[17:40] <ogra_> whee
[17:41] <stgraber> and it published to the tracker, success!
[17:41] <ogra_> oversized though ... better drop all the asian langpacks :P
[17:42] <xnox> ogra_: more like german, french and spanish.
[17:42] <ogra_> pfft, you cant install without having german, french and spanish installed :)
[17:44] <ogra_> Riddell, so somehow that nexus7 kubuntu image fell under the radar due to everyone being busy with blogposts ... should we start digging back in during this week ? or do you prefer to wait until after your beta
[17:44] <stgraber> Riddell: hmm, can't find anything obviously wrong with it or reference to the source/binaries in the britney output. I'm pretty new at that stuff though so may be worth having cjwatson take a look to see what's wrong.
[17:44] <stgraber> anyway, not really beta1 related ;)
[17:45] <cjwatson> Hmm
[17:45] <Riddell> ogra_: I still haven't got my nexus to wake from the dead, I just ordered another one but that'll take a few days to arrive so I can't see it happening for beta 1
[17:46] <ogra_> Riddell, ok, i'll keep it on my todo
[17:46] <Riddell> stgraber: yes nothing in excuses or update_output.txt
[17:46] <cjwatson> Riddell: 16:22 <cjwatson> Oh, and if you're adding a new file there you need to edit britney.conf in lp:~ubuntu-release/britney/britney2-ubuntu/
[17:46] <cjwatson> you didn't do that
[17:47] <Riddell> aah
[17:47] <cjwatson> see e.g. r324 in that branch
[17:48]  * Riddell makes it so
[17:49] <stgraber> ScottK: the block is now in place
[17:49] <stgraber> will be extended if any other flavour sends me a list, though the current one appears to cover most of the core bits
[17:51] <bdmurray> slangasek: I'm inclined to release the fix for bug 780602 to precise although there is not fix for Q yet.  cyphermox is working on it though last I heard.
[17:51] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 780602 in OEM Priority Project precise "nm-applet leaks memory and stops functioning after a while" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/780602
[17:53] <slangasek> bdmurray: yeah, seems reasonable to me
[18:01] <ScottK> stgraber: Thanks.  To the extent it doesn't cover all the core bits, I messed up.  Please feel free to extend it.
[18:03] <phillw> stgraber: I'm not sure what you require - do you want a list of what is on lubuntu iso's ?
[18:04] <ScottK> phillw: By source package.
[18:04] <phillw> I know Julien has the list somewhere... I'll go dig :)
[18:07] <stgraber> phillw: if there are source packages you want to make sure won't change between now and the release of beta1, send me a list and I'll update the hints. If those are packages that only you guys maintain, it's probably fine just not to upload them
[18:09] <phillw> stgraber: on my last chat with Julien over the weekend, he assured me that he was finished with any updates pertaining to 'LX' stuff and was 'good to go' for Beta 1.
[18:10] <phillw> whilst I am a 'release' manager, I'm there only for when he isn't available :)
[18:30] <stgraber> slangasek: do you think introducing the 3 missing user jobs to make upstart user sessions usable requires a FFe? (they wouldn't be used by default, it's only for those who want to turn on user sessions by modifying /etc/upstart-xsessions)
[18:32] <xnox> imho, we agreed that it's fine =)
[18:32] <xnox> but I am expecting all those packages blocked by beta1 now.
[18:32] <xnox> (although shouldn't affect them at all...)
[18:33] <stgraber> xnox: yeah, they are, but I'd still upload to -proposed just so I don't have to remember to do it later ;)
[18:33] <xnox> stgraber: I'd say "got for it", but I don't have the appropriate hat to say that.
[19:12] <tkamppeter> Due to the Rolling Release discussion and the UDS last week I did not succeed to do all version updates in time for FF last Thu. Especially Ghostscript 9.07 is missing as it depends on the fix of bug 1126427 which RAOF will work on tomorrow (today is a holiday in AU). Can I update Ghostscript after this fix without a formal FFe, probably tomorrow (Tue) or Wed?
[19:12] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1126427 in lcms2 (Ubuntu) "LCMS2 needs multi-threading fixes to work with the new Ghostscript 9.07" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1126427
[19:22] <xnox> Files a new FFe bug 1153731
[19:22] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1153731 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "[FFe] Ubuntu One sing in or up or skip plugin" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1153731
[19:32] <seb128> tkamppeter, it's better to file a FFe bug I think, that shouldn't take too much time and will make review easier, just state the content of the update and the rational
[19:40] <infinity> tkamppeter: Do you have a quick summary of changes from 9.06 to 9.07?
[19:43] <infinity> tkamppeter: New libgs, for instance?  API changes, or just ABI?  Massive new untested features?
[19:47] <stgraber> infinity: oh, since you're around :) do you have an opinion (FFe or not) on those 3 upstart user session jobs I'd like to push (dbus, gnome-session and gnome-settings-daemon)? they don't cause any change to the default user, they just make it possible for those who want to test user sessions (after they enabled them in /etc/upstart-xsessions)
[19:48] <seb128> hum
[19:48] <seb128> speaking of which
[19:48] <seb128> is there any chance we change the ubuntu session to be an upstart user session in raring? ;-)
[19:48] <infinity> stgraber: I'd rather you get vorlon's opinion on that, as he's been closer to the development and testing of those features.
[19:48] <infinity> seb128: See above.
[19:48] <stgraber> seb128: not sure, that change would definitely need a FFe though :)
[19:49] <seb128> infinity, do you avoid using slangasek on purpose or just old debian habit? ;-)
[19:49] <seb128> stgraber, ok, do you plan to file a ffe then?
[19:49] <infinity> seb128: He's still vorlon on OFTC, I don't context switch well.
[19:50] <infinity> seb128: I don't still call cjwatson Kamion because he isn't Kamion anywhere anymore.
[19:50] <stgraber> seb128: it mostly depends on the state of the user jobs for the other gnome bits. The upstart feature is in and with the jobs I have here (dbus, gnome-session and gnome-settings-daemon) it makes it all usable.
[19:50] <seb128> stgraber, well, a few desktopers have been running it for some weeks without issue
[19:50] <seb128> so I would +1 changing the unity session
[19:51] <seb128> it = whatever was in your ppa when you called for testing
[19:51] <seb128> does that include those jobs?
[19:51] <Laney> it also seems to work under shell here so perhaps the gnomers would be interested in that
[19:51] <stgraber> seb128: ok, good to know. I wasn't sure whether we actually felt like this would bring us anything for 13.04 (as in, actual advantage vs standard gnome-session since we don't have packages shipping jobs yet)
[19:51] <phillw> cjwatson: I'm sorry for repeating, as you could already have answered when my link was down (it is dying regularly today), is there any news on the lubuntu alternates.. can you repeat an answer to balloons in case I disappear again.
[19:51] <seb128> well, it's a chicken-egg thing
[19:52] <seb128> if you don't enable it we can't start shipping jobs
[19:52] <stgraber> Laney: yeah and I remember testing with fallback too and it worked. I guess anything using gnome-session should be fine
[19:52] <cjwatson> phillw: Dinner intervened
[19:53] <Laney> Hmm, actually there was something
[19:53] <phillw> cjwatson: I have no issues at all with dinner... glad that I'm able to use the microwave for mine after the earlier power cuts :D
[19:53] <cjwatson> phillw,balloons: Lubuntu alternates building again now
[19:53] <Laney> Replacing or otherwise using the other Xsession.d snippets - here {ssh,gpg}-agent and im-config
[19:53] <stgraber> seb128: ok, so I'll try to get the missing bits (dbus, gnome-session, gnome-settings-daemon) in today (with or without FFe, depending on how slangasek feels). Then I'll send another e-mail to ubuntu-devel saying that people can test using what's in the archive by just changing /etc/upstart-xsessions and if it all looks good, we'll do the switch post-beta1 (Friday-ish). Sounds good?
[19:53] <Laney> I didn't check if the final package brings those back
[19:54] <cjwatson> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[19:54] <cjwatson> 19:52 <cjwatson> phillw: Dinner intervened
[19:54] <cjwatson> damn, sorry
[19:54] <cjwatson> 19:53 <Laney> Hmm, actually there was something
[19:54] <cjwatson> 19:53 <phillw> cjwatson: I have no issues at all with dinner... glad that I'm able to use the microwave for mine after the earlier power cuts :D
[19:54] <cjwatson> touchy touchpad
[19:54] <Laney> stgraber: ^
[19:55] <stgraber> Laney: nope, I haven't dealt with those yet. Those should be converted to upstart jobs in their respective package + add a '[ -n "$UPSTART" ] && return' statement to their Xsession scripts
[19:56] <stgraber> Laney: do we have a list of those?
[19:56] <Laney> Then you'll have to move the script back to 59upstart?
[19:56] <seb128> stgraber, Laney: sounds good to me
[19:56] <Laney> you should be able to use apt-file or whatever to see what puts scripts in Xsession.d
[19:56] <stgraber> Laney: nope, we have 00upstart that sets UPSTART in the environment and 99upstart that sets STARTUP
[19:58] <Laney> But currently upstart wipes $STARTUP out anyway so there's not much point making them conditional
[19:58] <stgraber> Laney: hmm, indeed :) so we just need matching user jobs for them
[19:59] <Laney> It appears to make sense to me to support them in $STARTUP up until they get converted to jobs and then [ -n ... ] them out once that happens
[20:01] <stgraber> Laney: well, yes and no, the problem at least with the IM stuff is that they have a tendency to start a dbus session bus, which creates a bit of a mess as upstart spawns dbus-daemon too. So while in theory we could simply append to STARTUP, it was far safer to just override it, thereby ensuring we at least get a working session everytime (even if some bits are missing)
[20:02] <Laney> so we have to make sure to get a job for that one ;-)
[20:03] <Laney> It seemed hard to me in my ignorant poke though - spawns three processes IIRC
[20:03] <stgraber> since we're talking about a bit more than just the 3 missing user jobs, I'm going to file a generic FFe for that stuff, so I don't need to nag people for every affected package (as I'm guessing we'll find a few more as we go)
[20:04] <Laney> I think doing the basic three jobs is fine for now
[20:06] <slangasek> stgraber: 3 missing user jobs> I don't think that warrants FFe paperwork, it's obviously low-risk
[20:06] <stgraber> slangasek: ok, good. I'll finish testing then and just push those to the archive
[20:13] <cjwatson> phillw,balloons: Lubuntu alternate build succeeded
[20:14] <phillw> cjwatson: thanks :)
[20:40] <utlemming> stgraber: cloud images are going for B1 for raring
[20:40] <utlemming> also, does anyone know when Hardy Server EOL's?
[20:41] <stgraber> utlemming: ok, adding them back to the manifest then
[20:41] <utlemming> stgraber: did someone tell you otherwise, or no ack?
[20:42] <stgraber> utlemming: nope, I just dropped it earlier today as I wasn't explicitly told you'd do beta1. (Those milestones are opt-in, so I need to be told who participates ;))
[20:43] <utlemming> stgraber: right, okay, good to know. Please opt in the cloud images for Beta-2 and RC as well then.
[20:43] <stgraber> utlemming: ok
[20:55] <infinity> utlemming: hardy EOL is around raring release, give or take a week or two.
[20:55] <utlemming> infinity: ack, thanks...and that's what I thought :)
[20:56] <infinity> utlemming: From a support perspective, it's effectively EOL already except for critical security issues.
[20:56] <Daviey> infinity: hey, can you weigh in on - bug 633109.  I see you commented on it before.  Can you follow up further.  It's in the queue, and would be nice to either reject or process it.
[20:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 633109 in dput (Ubuntu Precise) "No progress bar for sftp uploads" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/633109
[20:56] <infinity> utlemming: (Not that we wouldn't take paid support for it, of course, but you know what I mean, developers gave up a while ago on SRUs)
[20:56] <utlemming> infinity: right. I'm just looking forward to turning hardy off
[20:56] <utlemming> infiinity: for cloud image builds
[20:57] <infinity> Daviey: Running out the door for a doctor's appointment, but I'll weigh in when I get back later and either reject or accept, yeah.
[20:57] <Daviey> infinity: thanks
[20:59] <stgraber> cronjobs disabled for the flavours taking part in beta1
[21:03] <stgraber> ScottK, Riddell: are you ready for your first beta1 candidate or are you waiting for some packages to finish building?
[21:04] <tkamppeter> infinity, API of libgs does not change, update is practically only bug fixes. No important new features.
[21:04] <tkamppeter> infinity, the usual every-six-months update of GS.
[21:06] <infinity> tkamppeter: If there's no ABI or API bump, and no massive new changes, I'm fine with it.  In fact, other than the version number, that doesn't sound like it has "features" worthy of an FFe in the first place.
[21:10] <Daviey> stgraber: Did we stop bzr committing cron changes?
[21:12] <stgraber> Daviey: no, but we usually don't commit the changes done temporarily during milestone testing
[21:13] <stgraber> so that on Thursday I can simply do a bzr revert and have nusakan back to normal
[21:15] <tkamppeter> infinity, see release notes on http://www.ghostscript.com/doc/current/News.htm
[21:15] <ScottK> stgraber: AFAIK we're ready.
[21:16] <stgraber> ScottK: good. I'll make sure everything is built or building before I EOD then (in 45min or so)
[21:16] <ScottK> Thanks.
[21:16] <tkamppeter> infinity, do you know about the differences of the GNU Affero General Public License (AGPL) to the GPL? Can we still ship GS?
[21:17] <Daviey> stgraber: Ok, I thought i was criticised previously for not committing a change like that before.  bzr reverting to a revision shouldn
[21:17] <Daviey> 't  be problematic. :/
[21:21] <stgraber> Daviey: ah, I don't think I ever complained when people made temporary changes during milestone testing. I usually complain when there are leftovers after a milestone is out ;)
[21:48] <jdstrand_> can someone push chromium-browser 25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu1 from raring-proposed to raring?
[21:48] <jdstrand> it is stuck in -proposed because it ftbfs on armhf. that is being worked on
[21:49] <jdstrand> (we did this last time fwiw)
[21:50] <stgraber> jdstrand: I'll do that
[21:51] <jdstrand> stgraber: cool, thanks :)
[21:53] <stgraber> jdstrand: pushed the britney hint so it should get migrated to raring with the next run
[21:53] <jdstrand> perfect, thanks again :)
[22:11] <robert_ancell> ScottK, can we remove the block from lightdm? It was a few hours late to the feature free and I asked for an exception. I'm not sure who I have to convince it's good to go, but there don't seem to be any problems coming from -proposed
[22:12] <ScottK> robert_ancell: Did you file an FFe and was it approved?
[22:12] <robert_ancell> The changes are mosly bug fixes and one major improvement (adding Qt5 support)
[22:12] <seb128> ScottK, there is no FFe material in there...
[22:12] <seb128> or nothing impact on current installs at least
[22:12] <robert_ancell> ScottK, I was going on the "we will be lenient due to the confusion around 13.04" and it was just a few hours late
[22:12] <seb128> you can consider binding fors Qt5 as a new feature, but that will not break anything existing
[22:12] <seb128> and it was only a few hours late
[22:13] <ScottK> OK.
[22:13] <robert_ancell> ScottK, ta
[22:13] <seb128> ScottK, thanks
[22:14] <ScottK> I dropped my block.  It may be caught up in the Beta 1 block though.
[22:14] <ScottK> If it isn't, it probably should be.
[22:15] <ScottK> Yes.  It is.
[22:15] <seb128> ScottK, thanks, I was surprised that you blocked it, that was not obvious
[22:16] <seb128> I had to go look at what was happening when robert_ancell pointed it didn't move to raring
[22:17] <seb128> seems a bit harsh to have blocked it this way on friday morning, there was nothing disruptive, it was not that late and we were told there would be some slack on friday to compensate for the vUDS delays
[22:17] <ScottK> I told everyone I was blocking it at the time.
[22:17] <seb128> everyone who was on IRC at the time I guess
[22:17] <ScottK> It was blocked because ogra_ said things needing FFes could be uploaded safely since the queue was frozen (which wasn't and isn't the case)
[22:18] <ScottK> So I was _TOLD_ it needed an FFe.
[22:18] <seb128> ok, blame ogra_ then:
[22:18] <seb128> !
[22:18] <seb128> not sure where he got that from
[22:18] <ScottK> He was deeply confused.
[22:18] <seb128> we never queue bloqued for FF
[22:18] <ScottK> We straightened him out.
[22:18] <ScottK> Yep.
[22:19] <ScottK> He was mixing up Beta freeze and FF.
[22:47] <cjwatson> stgraber: cron> careful of ogra's temporary phablet hack, too
[22:50] <cjwatson> stgraber: Oh, did you figure out the Edubuntu/amd64 build problem?  What was it?
[23:06] <stgraber> cjwatson: no idea, just triggered a new build :)
[23:06] <stgraber> cjwatson: oh, actually it looks like it failed and just published an old livefs. I'll have to investigate then
[23:06] <stgraber> highvoltage: or you if you have more time than I do ^
[23:06] <highvoltage> ok
[23:07] <cjwatson> *something*'s installing the kernel one phase too early, but I couldn't quite see what
[23:07] <highvoltage> I can tomorrow afternoon (well, morning EDT)
[23:08] <highvoltage> hmm, that sounds familiar
[23:22]  * cjwatson hits it with set -x
[23:26] <cjwatson> no, wait, I've misunderstood something here
[23:29] <stgraber> cjwatson: hmm, did something recently changed in grub2? I had a very quick look at the build failure for Edubuntu and this matches another failure I've been told about in upgrade testing (when running under lxc though, so really not sure if that's the same problem)
[23:30] <cjwatson> No
[23:30] <cjwatson> And linux-image-extra-blah is installed at nearly exactly the same point in the (working) Ubuntu build
[23:31] <cjwatson> I wish I could remember my analysis of a similar problem before
[23:32] <cjwatson> First failed build was 20130221; there was a grub2 upload that day but it was later
[23:33] <cjwatson> So I think even circumstantial evidence rules out grub2 being the direct cause
[23:35] <cjwatson> Matches linux 3.8.0-6.14 -> 3.8.0-7.13 but there's nothing that looks relevant in its changelog
[23:37] <cjwatson> It might just be a configure ordering problem :-(
[23:38] <cjwatson> In at least two successful cases, grub-pc is configured after linux-image-extra-blah; in at least two failing cases, vice versa
[23:39] <cjwatson> And something caused the order to flip, but that could be practically anything and there's clearly an undefinedness problem anyway
[23:42] <stgraber> hmm, so much for quickly reading through grub's postinst, that thing is massive!
[23:43] <cjwatson> stgraber: I think perhaps http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606413/
[23:43] <cjwatson> That matches the postinst
[23:45] <cjwatson> And, although I haven't proven it directly, my argument is that matching the postinst should be good enough, because the postinst succeeded a bit earlier
[23:45] <stgraber> yeah, I think that'd make sense. It's just really weird that we haven't seen that problem earlier, I guess we've been lucky with the resolver on all the other images ;)
[23:46] <cjwatson> I'd be more comfortable with a better proof ...
[23:46] <cjwatson> But I think this is correct on its own merits anyway; we shouldn't be calling update-grub if there isn't already a grub.cfg to update
[23:54] <cjwatson> stgraber: OK, uploaded.  I decided to let it ride along with a merge I had queued up; the diff is fairly substantial but the actual effective change is pretty near minimal
[23:54] <cjwatson> And our delta is almost approaching sane now
[23:55] <cjwatson> (My goal is to eradicate it - I'm bored of merges)
[23:56] <cjwatson> stgraber: So, assuming I didn't screw it up and fail to build, could you unblock it at some point and try another build?
[23:57] <cjwatson> And with any luck we'll be back to all images building cleanly again
[23:58] <stgraber> cjwatson: yep, I'll push an hint once it's done building


[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148754 in pidgin (main) "Include latest Pidgin because 2.2.0 has an important bug" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148754
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148755 in yelp (main) "I can't play a DVD that is currently in the DVD/CD drive." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148755
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148440 in ubuntu "General "rubberhose" vulnerability" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148440
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148758 in ldap-auth-client (universe) "ldap-auth-client migration misses SSL related settings" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148758
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148759 in ubuntu "no console" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148759
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #148498 in sudo (main) "sudo asks for wrong password" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148498
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #148761 in hgsvn (universe) "hgsvn should depend on subversion and mercurial" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148761
[12:51] <ubotu> New bug: #148762 in ubuntu "Time Zone in Xubuntu is nuts" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148762
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #148763 in compiz (main) "Desktop effects could not be enabled - Nvidia " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148763
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #148583 in update-manager (main) "update-manager returns an error msg upon action" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148583
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #148765 in ubuntu "Black screen after kernel has loaded 100%" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148765
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148766 in ubiquity (main) "Cannot disable or configure migration assistant" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148766
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #148767 in opera (partner) "operapluginwrapper crashed with SIGSEGV in pluginController::open()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148767
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #148768 in comix (universe) "Bookmarks/Recent Files menuitems are not updated" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148768
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #148775 in gnome-panel (main) "SCIM is placing 2 icons on panel" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148775
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #148776 in ubuntu "[7.10-beta]  brightness control hardware keys don't work on kubuntu 7.10 beta" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148776
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #148778 in firefox (main) "crashed after failing to install an extension" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148778
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148779 in displayconfig-gtk (main) "wrong resolutions/refresh rates listed for MAG 786FD" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148779
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148781 in ubuntu "openoffice crashes on insert special character" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148781
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #148784 in virtualbox-ose (universe) "[gutsy]  virtualbox does not configure usb devices" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148784
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #148785 in ubuntu "gutsy gnomepanel" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148785
[02:17] <bdmurray> Anybody know the kubuntu package for multimedia / magic keys?
[02:18] <bdmurray> I seem to have forgotten it.
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #148786 in bzr-gtk (universe) "olive-gtk crashed with ImportError: No module named dialog" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148786
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #148788 in ubuntu "upgrade to gutsy gdm failsafe loops, no desktop" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148788
[02:23] <bdmurray> Its kmilo in case anyone wanted to know
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148792 in ubuntu "Package OGMRip" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148792
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148794 in intlclock "Change Date or Time doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148794
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #148795 in dolphin (main) "D3lphin crashes on zooming out" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148795
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #148797 in pidgin (main) "can't see myspace friends" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148797
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #148798 in workrave (main) "workrave windows duplicated" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148798
[02:51] <jjesse> i'm sorry ubotu no more bugs
[02:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148800 in tracker (main) "trackerd crashed with SIGSEGV in strstr()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148800
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148803 in ubuntu "Evince Fullscreen [F11]  Keyboard Shortcut Missing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148803
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148805 in compiz (main) "Gutsy Update Breaks Compiz/Desktop Effects" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148805
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148801 in lyx (universe) "[UVFe]  lyx 1.5.0 -> 1.5.1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148801
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148804 in mlton (universe) "Please sync mlton (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148804
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148806 in apt (main) "apt-get blocks on /dev/ptmx a lot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148806
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148808 in gcalctool (main) "package gcalctool 5.20.1-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 134" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148808
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148809 in sun-java5 (multiverse) "package sun-java5-doc 1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso post-installation script devolvi? el c?digo de salida de error 1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148809
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148811 in firefox (main) "FIREFOX CRASH" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148811
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #148816 in ubuntu "Krfb" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148816
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #148817 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 7.10 does not mute the speaker when the headphones are plugged in on the Presario C500." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148817
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148818 in firefox (main) ""OK" button sometimes not active in Firefox file download dialog box." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148818
[04:09] <ubotu> New bug: #148819 in j2se1.4-i586 (multiverse) "package j2re1.4 None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/j2re1.4.list]  failed to install/upgrade: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 3" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148819
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148821 in k3b (main) "cd burning failure with auto speed or higher than x8" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148821
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148822 in alsa-driver (main) "microphone and speaker mix" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148822
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #148824 in ubuntu "unable ton install update KDM" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148824
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #148825 in firefox (main) "Firefox gives connection timed out in Gutsy Gibbon to any link but Ubuntu.com, Konqueror searches fine." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148825
[04:46] <RussDraper> I am having a strange problem in Gnome that I haven't been able to figure out.  I can't move a window from one monitor to another monitor!
[04:47] <RAOF> Hm.  Someone in bug #138398 has managed to overwrite /var/lib/dpkg/diversions with a fragment of a crash report.  Is there any way they can get that back, so dpkg can work again and I can get the information I want from them? :)
[04:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 138398 in xserver-xgl "Xgl crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138398
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #148827 in ubuntu "Live CD install hangs on 'Importing User Profiles'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148827
[05:08] <ajmitch> RAOF: /var/lib/dpkg/diversions-old ?
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148831 in evince (main) "evince crashed in background with DJVU document opened" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148831
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148832 in ubuntu "System freezes every now and then" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148832
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #148834 in hipo (universe) "UVFe: please sync hipo from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148834
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #148838 in pidgin (main) "[gutsy]  Pidgin 2.2.1 crashes on received message" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148838
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148839 in ubuntu "gnash fails install said installed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148839
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #148840 in ubiquity (main) "grub install fails on (hd0,1)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148840
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #148841 in displayconfig-gtk (main) "Need way to manually enter information for a monitor not in list" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148841
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148842 in alsa-driver (main) "no sound on intel hda (STAC 9205)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148842
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148846 in gnome-panel (main) "workspaces reduced to 2 when cancelling visual effects" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148846
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #148847 in ubuntu "[7.10 beta]  .kde/share/config/kcmshellrc has wrong ownership (root.root)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148847
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148848 in language-pack-gnome-en-base (main) "package language-pack-gnome-en-base 1:7.10+20070928 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148848
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #148850 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "password refused ; error 41. Never did it before. When I want to collect  my email, a box occurs asking  me my password. When I type it, says connection failed, and  asks me to type my password, and so on."  flyers on it before
[08:33] <dholbach> so there seems to be a market for it
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148858 in apt-listchanges (main) "apt-listchanges is missing sendmail (dup-of: 85031)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148858
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148860 in compiz (main) "Gnome bottom panel is hidden when I log in" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148860
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148861 in kino (main) "package kino None failed to install/upgrade: fallito in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148861
[08:36] <elmargol> they go on ebay for about 5.000 EUR
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148864 in ntfs-3g (main) "2 major bugs fixed in 1.1004" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148864
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148867 in firefox-granparadiso (universe) "Gran Paradiso crashes on about:license page" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148867
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #148871 in php5 (main) "Lower memory limit for php5" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148871
[09:41] <thekorn> good morning
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #148870 in compiz (main) "compiz causes panel & windows not to show on startup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148870
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #148872 in ubuntu "Accent are not displayed on extenal disks automatically mounted with ntfs-3g" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148872
[09:55] <coastGNU> I just niticed that oo-cd-cover.odg from example-content.deb still has the feisty cover. Is this worth filling a bug report or will there be a new cd-cover in the next weeks?
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #148878 in example-content (main) "oo-cd-cover.odg from example-content.deb still has the feisty cover" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148878
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #148879 in sun-java6 "please add JCheckBoxMenu and JRadioButtonMenu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148879
[11:03] <tormod> hi, is there a standard way to tag a bug as fixed upstream, when there's no upstream bug associated?
[11:04] <dholbach> tormod: you could link to the fix and mark it as 'fix committed'
[11:05] <tormod> link to what?
[11:05] <tormod> gitweb?
[11:06] <dholbach> some way to get the fix
[11:07] <tormod> ok, so just add a link in the comment, no launchpad association?
[11:08] <dholbach> if you can associate with launchpad that's great, if you can't, that's ok too
[11:08] <tormod> thanks
[11:16] <gnomefreak> apt-cache search money with or without "money" gnucash and grisbi should show up when searching for money
[11:17] <gnomefreak> what package is in charge of having it in a certain search parameter
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148889 in ubuntu "[Gutsy]  print icon in notification area is not hidden after finish of printing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148889
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148891 in ubuntu "tzconfig not in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148891
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #148892 in ubuntu "TFT via HDMI" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148892
[11:53] <ubotu> New bug: #148893 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "Shows all processes from other users as taking up 0 memory" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148893
[11:53] <ubotu> New bug: #148894 in evince (main) "evince outputs a lot of warnings on gutsy gibson" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148894
[11:53] <ubotu> New bug: #148895 in tracker (main) "No icon in menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148895
[11:53] <ubotu> New bug: #148896 in ubuntu "[Gutsy]  page not printed, works in feisty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148896
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #148898 in ubuntu "create a metapackage for package building tools" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148898
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #148899 in sweep (universe) "Audio interface does not support host endian 32 bit float samples" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148899
[12:01] <lousygarua> hello i need some help triaging #121669, it might be important to fix on gutsy but i'm too n00b for deciding
[12:02] <DarkMageZ> bug #121669
[12:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121669 in update-manager "package update-manager failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:I wasn't able to locate file for the libc6 package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package." [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121669
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148900 in iptables (main) "xt_CONNMARK target module is missing while xt_connmark match is available" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148900
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #147357 in gnome-app-install (main) "gnome-app-install crashed with AttributeError in _ensureInArchive()" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/147357
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #148907 in mediawiki1.10 (universe) "Please sync mediawiki1.10 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148907
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #148909 in ubiquity (main) "Gusty Beta: Ubiquity "Ready to Install" screen is empty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148909
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #148912 in language-selector (main) "unable to maximise the window" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148912
[01:17] <gautada> bdmurray: I confirmed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/53914.  What is the next step?
[01:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 53914 in ubiquity "Installer keyboard lazout setting" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148914 in firefox (main) "firefox crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148914
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #148915 in ubuntu "[gutsy]  compiz does not work on Dell Latitude D810" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148915
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #131449 in ubuntu "Soundcard causes freeze" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131449
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #148922 in epiphany-browser (main) "Option "--import-bookmarks" doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148922
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #148923 in ubuntu "[gutsy] nokia6288 problems" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148923
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148925 in ekiga (main) "No picture:  was picture after selecting format then none" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148925
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148928 in network-manager (main) "changing ip needs restart" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148928
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148929 in udev (main) "Gutsy beta renumbers ethernet interfaces after boot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148929
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #148930 in update-manager (main) "broken update from feisty on ppc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148930
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #148931 in ubuntu "[gutsy]  network-admin and profile" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148931
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148934 in scrollkeeper (main) "/usr/share/omf/windows/windows-C.omf:8: parser error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148934
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #148935 in ubuntu "quanta bluefish kompozer web editors are in different menus" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148935
[02:47] <ubotu> New bug: #148937 in firefox (main) "Print Preview Crahses" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148937
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #148941 in cedilla (universe) "installation does need /usr/share/texmf-tetex/" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148941
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148942 in thunderbird (main) "thunderbird 2.0 not compiled with UNIX (movemail) acccount option." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148942
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148945 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome panel not at boarder of display after awn installation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148945
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148946 in ubuntu "Bug option mounted drive <b> </b> blabla" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148946
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #148948 in gedit (main) "gedit ignores printing layout options" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148948
[03:02] <ubotu> New bug: #148940 in xfs (universe) "[X font server]  integer overflow and heap corruption vulnerability" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148940
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148949 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Windows partitions not accessible" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148949
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #148953 in ubuntu "Hitting "Reply To All" in Evolution when connected to Exchange server crashes Evolution (Ubuntu 7.10 beta)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148953
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #148954 in scrollkeeper (main) "package scrollkeeper 0.3.14-13ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148954
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148955 in nautilus (main) "nautilus preview prevents unmounting USB key" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148955
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148956 in ubuntu "With laptop docked, screen shows 1280x1024 resolution but acts like there's an invisible 1280x800 screen with another invisible 1280x224 screen below it (Ubuntu 7.10 beta)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148956
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #148958 in ubuntu "window title bar disappears completely on all windows" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148958
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #148961 in ubuntu "Some fonts not rendering italics at all" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148961
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #148962 in ubuntu "[REGRESSION]  Completely black desktop showing in GNOME (Ubuntu 7.10)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148962
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148965 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "2.6.15-28-server hangs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148965
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148966 in upstart (main) "upstart causes instant reboot during install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148966
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148968 in synergy (universe) "synergyc crashed with SIGSEGV in std::_Rb_tree_increment()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148968
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148970 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "echo indigoio soundcard does not record in Studio " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148970
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148971 in gnome-panel (main) "Boto esquerdo do mouse parou de funcionar aps ultima atualizao" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148971
[04:20] <bddebian> Boo
[04:25] <ogra> bee
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #148976 in ubuntu "Missing an up-to-date Application Software Stream" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148976
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #148972 in ubuntu "Gutsy beta i386 doesn't boot on ThinkPad T30" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148972
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #148974 in compiz (main) "compiz (dup-of: 144241)" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148974
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #148975 in compiz (main) "Sometimes could not restore a remote desktop window when running "Normal visual effects"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148975
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #148978 in ubuntu "alsa broken with gutsy 2.6.22 kernel" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148978
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #148982 in ubuntu "Repening gimp-ubuntu-splash.xcf from "Places/Recent Documents" fails.  Opening from within the examples dir opens correctly with Gimp." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148982
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #148984 in apparmor (main) "We should have Java and Mono abstractions" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148984
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148985 in gimp (main) "package gimp 2.4.0~rc3-1ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/libgimp2.0/README', which is also in package libgimp2.0" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148985
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #148986 in ubuntu "Updater reports error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148986
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #148988 in deskbar-applet (main) "deskbar-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148988
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #148989 in gimp (main) "gimp_2.4.0~rc3-1ubuntu5_amd64.deb cannot be installed. " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148989
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #148990 in scrollkeeper (main) "scrollkeeper error " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148990
[05:22] <ubotu> New bug: #148991 in ubuntu " in arial bold is translated to ... in OpenOffice.org" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148991
[05:22] <ubotu> New bug: #148992 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "unable to connect to specific FTP site" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148992
[05:22] <ubotu> New bug: #148993 in ubuntu "VoIP application descriptions for similar packages completely different in K menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148993
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148994 in libquicktime (main) "Optional Codecs missing: x264, faac, faad2, lame" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148994
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148995 in ubuntu "[gutsy]  gnome-about-me not accessable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148995
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #148996 in ubuntu ""ATI card (ATI Radeon  Xpress 1150 256MB HyperMemoryTM  (integrated)) won't run beryl"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148996
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #148997 in telepathy-butterfly (universe) "telepathy-butterfly crashed with ProtocolError in __on_message_received()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148997
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #148999 in gimp (main) "gimp install fails on "aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148999
[05:37] <gameldar> hi all - I'm newly joined BugSquad and trying to help out with some bugs I've come across.
[05:38] <bdmurray> welcome gameldar
[05:38] <gameldar> basically I have one issue atm. I'm looking into a bug with anjuta and noticed a relevant comment in the changelog, whats the easiest way to see the diffs back to that version (it'll be a change in the debian/control file)
[05:40] <bdmurray> That's a good question.  My only idea would be to see what package version are available for previous releases.
[05:42] <ubotu> New bug: #144784 in synaptic (main) "synaptic crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144784
[05:42] <ubotu> New bug: #149000 in gimp (main) "gimp upgrade fail" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149000
[05:42] <bdmurray> gameldar: what package is it?
[05:42] <gameldar> hmm... unfortunately in this case the version is an older gutsy version... I was assuming the debian control files are stored somewhere on code.launchpad.net
[05:43] <gameldar> anjuta
[05:43] <gameldar> in particular bug Bug #126314
[05:44] <Hobbsee> all of the gimp bugs aer dupes of #148985
[05:46] <bdmurray> gameldar: I think looking here might be a good start https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/anjuta
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #149003 in gimp (main) "can't install gimp 2.4rc3 because of a conflict with a file in libgimp2.0" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149003
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #149005 in ubuntu "Marvell 88E8053 detected multiple times" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149005
[05:46] <bdmurray> gameldar: And then some url hackery will get the version you want
[05:48] <gameldar> bdmurray: ahh yeah.. theres the diff.gz that gives me the info I need. Thanks!
[05:49] <bdmurray> No problem and thanks for helping out
[05:50] <bdmurray> Let me know if you have any more questions.
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #144537 in apt (main) "WriteApportReport crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen() " [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144537
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #149006 in ltsp (main) "ltsp does not configure xorg.conf correctly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149006
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #149007 in langpack-locales (main) "wrong first_weekday in es_CR locale" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149007
[05:51] <gameldar> thanks I will. sleep time for me now though.
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #149010 in w3m (main) "w3m crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149010
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #149013 in gnome-panel (main) "Problem with gnome-panel startup if solid colour  " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149013
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #149014 in apport (main) "approt not loading crash report into launchpad" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149014
[06:20] <bdmurray> pedro_: Have you started that FixesToVerify(?) page?
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #149017 in pkgbinarymangler (main) "extract Mozilla-ish translations" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149017
[06:22] <pedro_> bdmurray, i don't, yet, I've been a little busy lately
[06:22] <bdmurray> pedro_: heh, indeed.  Does "Testing/FixesToVerify" sound right?
[06:23] <pedro_> bdmurray, yep ok for me :-)
[06:31] <bdmurray> pedro_: I threw one bug on their.  If you could look at the format that would be helpful.
[06:31] <bdmurray> s/their/there/
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #149018 in gnome-app-install (main) "stop depending on app-install-data-commercial" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149018
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #149020 in gimp (main) "[gutsy beta]  Update manager and/or synaptic cannot update gimp" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149020
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #149021 in openoffice.org (main) "autopkgtest build took >100ks, generated 3.7G logfile" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149021
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #149022 in gnome-session (main) "While shutting down the login screen is shown for a split second" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149022
[06:33] <pedro_> bdmurray, looks good to me, we are going to split them between kernel, desktop, bugs?
[06:34] <pedro_> we don't want to confuse the users (testers) , right?
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #149023 in gimp (main) "package gimp 2.4.0~rc3-1ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: intentando sobreescribir `/usr/share/doc/libgimp2.0/README', que est tambin en el paquete libgimp2.0" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149023
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #149026 in ksplash-engine-moodin (main) "ksplash SIGSEGV Abort on login to gutsy ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149026
[06:38] <bdmurray> pedro_: yeah, that makes sense perhaps even adding which image you could test it with would be helpful
[06:39] <pedro_> agreed
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #149028 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "Flash freezes firefox-bin" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149028
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #148332 in cupsys (main) "cupsd crashed with SIGSEGV in readdir64_r()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148332
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #148910 in cupsys (main) "cupsd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148910
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #149030 in ubuntu "System Broke after trying dual monitors on intel card" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149030
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #128327 in synaptic (main) "synaptic crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen() (dup-of: 144537)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128327
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #149033 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "[gutsy beta]  laptop immediately shuts down when reaching gdm" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149033
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #149034 in inkscape (main) "Broken illustrator importer" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149034
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #149035 in ubuntu "gutsy gibbon gimp update failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149035
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #149036 in openoffice.org2 (main) "Auto Numbering Doesn't Work When Starting in the Negative" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149036
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #149037 in ubuntu "Clock 2.18.1 is showing the wrong time. " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149037
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #149042 in update-manager-core (main) "do-release-upgrade has no man page" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149042
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #149044 in ubuntu "[7.10 beta]  no stylesheet for default firefox page if installed on kubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149044
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #149045 in hplip (main) "needs a proper daemon or cupsys integration" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149045
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #149046 in phpgedview (universe) "phpgedview new upstream version available 4.1.1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149046
[08:13] <ubotu> New bug: #149057 in knetworkmanager (main) "knetworkmanager does not allow selection of WPA when choosing wireless network" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149057
[08:13] <ubotu> New bug: #149058 in ubuntu "[Feisty]  Package Manager does not initialise" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149058
[08:14] <ubotu> New bug: #149047 in human-icon-theme (main) "Various icons don't have 48x48 nor scalable version" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149047
[08:14] <ubotu> New bug: #149052 in displayconfig-gtk (main) "[Apport]  displayconfig-gtk crashed with ImportError in  module>()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149052
[08:14] <ubotu> New bug: #149053 in gedit (main) "gedit Save dialog doesn't work with large files open" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149053
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #149059 in gnome-panel (main) "Compiz has black screen after going to CTRL-ALT-F1 console" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149059
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #149055 in gphoto2 (universe) "Lexar CF reader (rw025-7000) does not turn off LED when card unmounted" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149055
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #149062 in conduit (universe) "When I Quit out of Conduit, a message appears that it has closed unexpectedly, while it continues to run" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149062
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #149065 in gimp (main) "package libgimp2.0 2.4.0~rc3-1ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/libgimp2.0/README', which is also in package gimp" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149065
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #149066 in gimp (main) "gimp_2.4.0~rc3-1ubuntu5 failed to ugrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149066
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #149068 in nautilus (main) "Gutsy:  Nautilous freezes and won't take kill -9" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149068
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #149049 in dovecot (main) "FFe request: 1.0.5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149049
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #149050 in deluge-torrent (universe) "Deluge torrent client: Cannot set file priority, as it continually claims that Full Allocation is not set" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149050
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #149056 in update-manager (main) "Gutsy beta upgrade fails" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149056
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #149072 in gimp (main) "package gimp 2.4.0~rc3-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/libgimp2.0/README', which is also in package libgimp2.0" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149072
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #149073 in compiz (main) "warzone on gusty with compiz" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149073
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #149070 in ubuntu "[7.10 beta]  hardware mute button on macbook *almost* mutes audio but not completely" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149070
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #149071 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "-server kernel variant fails to boot on PowerEdge 2650 with AACRAID timeouts" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149071
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #149075 in ubuntu "Software index broken after latest updates" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149075
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #149076 in ubuntu "I can't write a cd" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149076
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #149077 in gnome-control-center (main) ""Do not show this warning again" keep coming for warning "the x keyboard settings differ from your current gnome keyboard settings" " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149077
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #149078 in update-manager (main) "upgrade tool crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149078
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #149051 in update-manager (main) "update-manager crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149051
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #149079 in gimp (main) "package libgimp2.0 2.4.0~rc3-1ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: intentando sobreescribir `/usr/share/doc/libgimp2.0/README', que est tambin en el paquete gimp" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149079
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #149082 in restricted-manager (restricted) "restricted-manager crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149082
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #149083 in linux-meta (main) "TI USB MSP430-JTAG serial port doesn't get registered" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149083
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #149084 in denemo (main) "Denemo mishandles accidentals" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149084
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #149085 in apport (main) "apport-gtk crashed with IOError in _read_eof()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149085
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #149087 in gimp (main) "unable to update gimp (dup-of: 148985)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149087
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #149088 in sudo (main) "sudo still askes for a password even though I'm in the sudo group" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149088
[08:54] <Kmos> if someone wants to comment it out - bug 132221
[08:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 132221 in ubuntu-dev-tools "requestsync: Add latest debian version to the title of the bug" [Wishlist,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132221
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #149089 in ubuntu "GIMP update crashes (dup-of: 148985)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149089
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #149091 in ubuntu "Returning from suspend, X session crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149091
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #149092 in ubuntu "package avahi-autoipd 0.6.20-2ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: package avahi-autoipd is already installed and configured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149092
[09:12] <ubotu> New bug: #149093 in keepassx (universe) "typo in keepassx launcher shortcut text" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149093
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #149096 in ubuntu "trying to update ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149096
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #149097 in cupsys (main) "package cupsys 1.3.2-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/libcupsys2/CREDITS.txt', which is also in package libcupsys2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149097
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #149100 in ubuntu "upgradeing from ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149100
[09:26] <ubotu> New bug: #149102 in ubuntu "gutsy beta: bt878 dvb card stopped working, but worked with tribe-5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149102
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #149103 in openoffice.org (main) "package ttf-opensymbol 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 41" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149103
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #149105 in ubuntu "synaptics touchpad problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149105
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #149106 in cupsys (main) "package cupsys 1.3.2-1ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/libcupsys2/CREDITS.txt', which is also in package libcupsys2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149106
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #149108 in ubuntu "bug in lsusb in Gutsy (syntek webcam)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149108
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #149110 in network-manager-openvpn (universe) "[gutsy]  network-manager-openvpn plugin disable DNS active when VPN connect" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149110
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #149111 in gcc-4.1 (main) "gcc/g++ seriously broken in gutsy latest amd64" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149111
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #149115 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "Total error with RT2500 wireless card (A-link/WL54H)  " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149115
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #149117 in cupsys (main) "cupsys fails to install (dup-of: 149106)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149117
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #149118 in kdebase (main) "kdesktop icon position" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149118
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #149120 in cupsys (main) "duplicate CREDITS.txt in cupsys packages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149120
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #149123 in gnome-main-menu (universe) "gnome main menu missing favorite applications and system options" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149123
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #149124 in kde-style-polyester (main) "polyester kde style" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149124
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #149125 in gnome-mplayer (multiverse) "gnome-mplayer should depend on mplayer-nogui" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149125
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #149121 in hplip (main) "hpssd vulnerable to command injection" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149121
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #149122 in network-manager (main) "[Gutsy Beta]  Unable to start wireless network " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149122
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #149126 in cupsys (main) "package cupsys 1.3.2-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: `/usr/share/doc/libcupsys2/CREDITS.txt' proovitakse le kirjutada, see on juba pakis libcupsys2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149126
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #149128 in kde-guidance (main) "kde-guidance-power-manager changes CPU beahvior to "Performance" after suspend" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149128
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #149129 in ubuntu "login delay in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149129
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #149130 in ubuntu "[7.10 beta]  kubuntu dolphin lists "encrypt file" as an action item despite the required application (kgpg) not being installed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149130
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #149131 in cupsys (main) "package cupsys 1.3.2-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/libcupsys2/CREDITS.txt', which is also in package libcupsys2 (dup-of: 149106)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149131
[10:22] <ubotu> New bug: #149133 in cupsys (main) "package cupsys 1.3.2-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/libcupsys2/CREDITS.txt', which is also in package libcupsys2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149133
[10:22] <ubotu> New bug: #149134 in cupsys (main) "upgrade od cupsys produces conflict error with another packages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149134
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #149136 in hwinfo (universe) "hwinfo 13.35-1 output gibberish" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149136
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #149137 in apport (main) "[gutsy]  cannot send crash reports owned by root " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149137
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #149138 in ubuntu "gateway notebook brightness fn hotkeys gutsy. gibon" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149138
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #149140 in cupsys (main) "package cupsys 1.3.2-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/libcupsys2/CREDITS.txt', which is also in package libcupsys2 (dup-of: 149106)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149140
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #149142 in cupsys (main) "update from cupsys 1.3.2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149142
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #149143 in cupsys (main) "[7.10 beta]  cupsys package fails to install via update" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149143
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #149144 in cupsys (main) "package cupsys 1.3.2-1ubuntu1 [modified: usr/lib/cups/backend-available/ipp usr/lib/cups/backend-available/lpd usr/lib/cups/backend-available/parallel usr/lib/cups/backend-available/scsi usr/lib/cups/backend-available/serial usr/lib/cups/backend-available/snmp usr/lib/cups/backend-available/socket usr/lib/cups/backend-available/usb usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/classes.cgi usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/he
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #149145 in latex209 (universe) "package latex209-bin 25.mar.1992-10 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurck" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149145
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #149146 in synaptic (main) "package synaptic 0.60ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: problemi con le dipendenze - lasciato non configurato" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149146
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #149147 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "[Gutsy-beta]  Network adapter not available on Asus A7S during installation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149147
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #149148 in nautilus (main) "package nautilus 1:2.20.0-0ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: problemi con le dipendenze - lasciato non configurato" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149148
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #149149 in gnome-app-install (main) "package gnome-app-install 0.4.12-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: problemi con le dipendenze - lasciato non configurato" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149149
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #149150 in gnome-panel (main) "package gnome-panel-data 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: problemi con le dipendenze - lasciato non configurato" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149150
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #149151 in cupsys (main) "i think the same as 149106" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149151
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #149152 in scrollkeeper (main) "package scrollkeeper 0.3.14-13ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: il sottoprocesso post-installation script  stato terminato dal segnale (Interrupt)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149152
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #149153 in tpb (universe) "typo in /etc/init.d/tpb" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149153
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #149154 in grub (main) "grub" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149154
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #149155 in compizconfig-settings-manager (universe) "[Gutsy Beta]  CompizConfig Settings - Images with uppercase file ending doesn't show up" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149155
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #149156 in ubuntu "camera downloading failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149156
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #149159 in dell "Need preseed love for console reboot message for preseed automatic-ubiquity installs" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149159
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #149160 in ubuntu "[7.10 beta]  guided partitioning using LVM should not put swap on LVM for suspend/resume compatibility" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149160
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #149163 in cupsys (main) "packagepackage cupsys 1.3.2-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: Versuche, ?/usr/share/doc/libcupsys2/CREDITS.txt? zu ?berschreiben, welches auch in Paket libcupsys2 ist cupsys 1.3.2-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: Versuche, ?/usr/share/doc/libcupsys2/CREDITS.txt? zu ?berschreiben, welches auch in Paket libcupsys2 ist (dup-of: 149106)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149163
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #149164 in cupsys (main) "package cupsys failed to install (dup-of: 149106)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149164
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #149166 in gimp-python (universe) "gimp-python 2.4.0~rc3 & package manager broken" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149166
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #149172 in gnome-control-center (main) "preferences button in visual effects tab should always be visible" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149172
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #149173 in kino (main) "kino quits on FX->Video->Pan and Zoom operation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149173
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #149177 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed while grub-install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149177


[07:49] <dholbach> good morning
[22:32] <Cheri703> huh, I wasn't sure if there was a room for ngo team...
[22:56] <highvoltage> it's a secret.
[22:56] <highvoltage> (not really :p)
[22:57] <Cheri703> heh, how are you highvoltage? made it home safely?
[22:58] <highvoltage> Cheri703: I did indeed! I had a bad toothache and got some morphene from the dentist so I'm especially good right now at this moment!
[22:58] <Cheri703> hehe
[22:59] <highvoltage> and about to get my first sponsored package into debian so that's kind of awesome
[22:59] <Cheri703> woo narcotics! (doctor prescribed of course)
[22:59] <Cheri703> very cool
[22:59] <highvoltage> and you?
[22:59] <Cheri703> trip was uneventful, just long! Getting back into things here. need to get busy drumming up clients
[22:59] <Cheri703> (or have someone I met at UDS randomly offer me an awesome job ;D )
[23:00] <highvoltage> do you have a linkedin page?
[23:00] <Cheri703> hmm...no
[23:01] <highvoltage> it's kind of useful to send people to if you want to show them a quick overview of your skills and let people people recommend you, etc. and much more social than just having a CV/resume page on your website
[23:01]  * Cheri703 adds it to to-do list
[23:02] <highvoltage> there's also lots of ubuntu people on linked in, so if someone is looking for an ubuntu person they are likely to stumle on your profile if you connect to other ubuntu people
[23:02] <Cheri703> I also need to update my wiki page
[23:02] <Cheri703> ok, awesome, good to know. I've never really looked at linkedin


[20:53] <imi> on my local network my ssh server was able to keep open a connection without any data traversing for hours. now it breaks after something like 5 minutes of inactivity. is there a setting I can change to make my ssl connections last for hours?
[21:18] <sdeziel> imi: are you still connecting from the LAN to the LAN or are you now connecting from a remote location?
[21:19] <imi> yes
[21:25] <sdeziel> imi: where is your SSH client? In the LAN next to the server or outside of the LAN
[21:27] <imi> same lan
[21:27] <imi> maybe it's because I replaced the switch?
[21:29] <sdeziel> imi: maybe there is a firewall in between that's expiring the connection state. Try adding the following to your ~/.ssh/config file: https://termbin.com/1yhb
[21:35] <imi> ok thanks


[18:38] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfdesktop 4.15.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfdesktop-4-15-1-released-tp59548.html (by André Miranda)
[18:48] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfdesktop 4.14.3 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfdesktop-4-14-3-released-tp59550.html (by Andre Miranda)
[18:54] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: thunar-volman 4.15.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-thunar-volman-4-15-1-released-tp59551.html (by Andre Miranda)
[20:33] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-dev-tools 4.15.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-dev-tools-4-15-1-released-tp59553.html (by Romain Bouvier)
[21:48] <krytarik> bluesabre, pleia2: So as I've mentioned last week, I'm trying to fix Xubuntu's custom CD Image CSS after changes to the base, and for this a commit should be made to 'lp:~xubuntu-website/+git/xubuntu-cdimage-css' - for which I don't have push access since I'm no member of the website team yet, so either I get added to the latter or we can do it by proxy again (in case of the latter, the updated ...
[21:48] <krytarik> ... style.css is at: http://paste.openstack.org/show/vk65Lppd8pLTGEGUuYX8/)
[21:58] <pleia2> as far as I'm concerned, anyone on xubuntu-team who is contributing to website stuff is welcome as an xubuntu-website contributor
[21:59] <pleia2> krytarik: you are now a member on lp
[22:00] <krytarik> Yeah, and it would have helped at the past release time too! >_<  Thanks!
[22:00] <pleia2> the bigger question is where we're doing the work, we moved the repo to github
[22:00] <pleia2> well, we didn't "move" it, there's a copy
[22:00] <krytarik> Yeah, indeed - and it seems that wasn't moved there yet.
[22:01] <pleia2> yeah, I was just looking at it, I think Canonical IS still pulls from lp
[22:07] <krytarik> Yeah, was just gonna say, it's what they are looking at right now still anyway - so I'll just push this change to there for now.  It can always be moved later.
[22:08] <pleia2> sounds good, thank you!
[22:08] <krytarik> Of course!
[22:09] <pleia2> as a member of xubuntu-team I think you should be added to our GitHub org too
[22:10] <krytarik> I ain't got an account there yet though! XD
[22:11] <pleia2> oh, that's probably why you aren't there :)
[22:11] <krytarik> Yeah! :D
[23:59] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-panel 4.15.5 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-panel-4-15-5-released-tp59557.html (by Simon Steinbeiss)


[04:40] <wgrant> Anyone around to review a tiny regression fix?
[04:40] <wgrant> https://code.launchpad.net/~wgrant/launchpad/bug-522800-getFileByName/+merge/43159
[04:40]  * mwhudson takes a look
[16:55] <henninge> Hi jcsackett!
[16:55] <henninge> I have a branch that is actually quite simple.
[16:55] <jcsackett> hello, henninge. i would be happy to look at it.
[16:55] <jcsackett> link?
[16:56] <henninge> But it contains a sample data change that makes the diff look big.
[16:56] <henninge> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~henninge/launchpad/recife-611668-fix-tests/+merge/43236
[16:56] <henninge> jcsackett: thanks
[16:56] <jcsackett> henninge: you're welcome.
[17:02] <jcsackett> henninge: in pofile.txt did you move the bit "msgid = potmsgset.msgid_singular.msgid..." out of the loop just to speed things up, since it appears to be a value that won't change in iteration?
[17:02] <jcsackett> or was there another purpose?
[17:03] <henninge> no, just because there was no reason for it to be in the loop
[17:03] <henninge> It may even speed  up the loop, yes. ;)
[17:03] <jcsackett> henninge: cool, thanks.
[17:04] <henninge> The test was failing because of the output from the format string further down.
[17:04] <henninge> The old format produced trailing spaces but I don't understand why that worked before.
[17:05] <henninge> jcsackett: I have to run out right now but will be back in about an hour. Sorry.
[17:05] <jcsackett> henninge: no problems.
[17:19] <EdwinGrubbs> jcsackett: I've added my branch to the queue: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~edwin-grubbs/launchpad/bug-676966-disallow-merging-people-with-ppas/+merge/43116
[17:20] <jcsackett> EdwinGrubbs: okay.
[18:33] <jcsackett> EdwinGrubbs: are you planning on fixing the lint errors that you put in the MP?
[18:34] <EdwinGrubbs> jcsackett: yes, except for the one where it complains about two blank lines because of a comment.
[18:35] <jcsackett> EdwinGrubbs: yeah, i was ignoring that one. just confused b/c i generally clean up lint before submitting, but either way works as long as they'll get fixed before merging.
[18:38] <henninge> jcsackett: Hi
[18:38] <jcsackett> henninge: hey there.
[18:39] <henninge> jcsackett: There is a prerequisite branch, as mentioned in the MP
[18:39] <jcsackett> henninge: yes, i got that. i didn't have failing tests. :-/
[18:39] <henninge> hm
[18:39] <EdwinGrubbs> jcsackett: sometimes, reviewers don't like it in the mp diff, because it makes it harder to understand the real changes.
[18:39] <jcsackett> EdwinGrubbs: fair point.
[18:40] <jcsackett> henninge: i will look again after reviewing Edwin's branch. there is nothing else but the recife branch, the prereq listed, and yours to consider, correct?
[18:41] <henninge> jcsackett: actually, there are three other branches before that but I thought they'd be included in the one branch (because it depends on them)
[18:42] <henninge> jcsackett: the other problem is that the original branches were started against db-devel
[18:42] <henninge> but now the the merge is into recife.
[18:42] <henninge> because that was backed out of db-devel again.
[18:42] <jcsackett> hm.
[18:43] <jcsackett> henninge: what branch were you looking in that had the errors?
[18:43] <henninge> jcsackett: db-devel-bug-611668-filtermethods-2 merged into recife
[18:43] <jcsackett> henninge: okay, that is what i thought i was looking at, but i will rebuild it and double check.
[18:44] <jcsackett> btw, henninge: where does the name "recife" come from?
[18:45] <henninge> jcsackett: it's the place of the sprint where this branch was started ... in March :/
[18:45] <henninge> Recife, Brazil
[18:45] <jcsackett> henninge: ah. cool.
[19:06] <jcsackett> EdwinGrubbs: there are a few comments on your MP.
[19:08] <jcsackett> henninge: taking another look now.
[19:10] <henninge> jcsackett: I think I know what is going on here
[19:10] <jcsackett> henninge: hit me.
[19:11] <henninge> does pofile.txt fail for you?
[19:11] <henninge> That is the test that was originally failing for me.
[19:11] <jcsackett> henninge: tell you in a second, building bin/test for your branch now.
[19:11] <henninge> I fixed that by updating the sample data, as described.
[19:12] <jcsackett> rather, building bin/test for recife now.
[19:12] <henninge> After that, the other two tests failed because the ordering of the translationsmessages changed.
[19:12] <henninge> They were ordered by "date_last_touched"
[19:13] <henninge> and two had been touched by the migration script.
[19:14] <henninge> So I "fixed" that by manually setting the "date_last_touched" back to what it was before (in the sampledata) instead of changing the order in the test.
[19:15] <henninge> So it's correct, the two tests translationsperson.txt and xx-person-activity.txt will pass before and after branch.
[19:15] <henninge> So, only pofile.txt is being fixed by this branch, the others were just "not broken"...
[19:17] <EdwinGrubbs> jcsackett: thanks for the review
[19:18] <jcsackett> henninge: that seems to be the case (coupled with me possibly messing up purity of branches when checking pofile, which didn't fail on recife before).
[19:18] <jcsackett> but carefully rebuilding the state of the branch before your MP does indeed show pofile failing.
[19:20] <jcsackett> henninge: r=me; i am mentoring so sinzui will need to follow up. i have already requested a review from him.
[19:20] <henninge> jcsackett: thanks ;-)
[19:21] <jcsackett> henninge: your welcome. sorry i evidently goofed on checking the tests. :-P
[19:28] <henninge> jcsackett: and I mislead you by implying that these tests were failing.
[21:25] <bac> jcsackett: time for a quick review?
[21:26] <jcsackett> bac: sure.
[21:26] <bac> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bac/launchpad/bug-662994/+merge/43299
[21:27] <jcsackett> bac: bit of a delay; the diff has not yet appeared. :-P
[21:27] <bac> jcsackett: it is there now
[21:28] <jcsackett> bac: huzzah.
[21:33] <jcsackett> bac: are there no unit tests around this the review view?
[21:35] <bac> jcsackett: i didn't find any.  i held my nose and updated the story
[21:36] <jcsackett> hrm. i'm tempted to file a bug against the lack of actual unit tests in place of stories...
[21:37] <bac> jcsackett: i can defer this one and create the unit tests
[21:37] <jcsackett> bac: i would buy you a beer if you did that. :-)
[21:38] <bac> ok
[21:38] <jcsackett> i like the code though. looks like a good branch.
[21:38] <jcsackett> you want me to still claim the MP, or leave it till later?
[21:39] <jcsackett> if you want me to go ahead and claim it, i'll happily take a look at it whenever you're done.
[21:39] <jcsackett> bac ^
[21:39] <bac> i'll just retract it
[21:40] <jcsackett> bac: okay. thanks for putting tests in place: you're a gentleman and a scholar.
[21:40] <bac> bah
[22:46] <jcsackett> is there anyone available to review: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jcsackett/launchpad/membership-status-matters-676494/+merge/43303
[22:46] <jcsackett> it's a test + a small change to a sql query


[00:30] <idnar> http://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/failed-to-fetch-errors-for-ppas contains what is, as far as I can determine, a really confusing typo
[00:31] <idnar> it looks like "All of these refer to different components within the same PPA. You only need the first four PPAs" should read "for" instead of "four"
[00:31] <wgrant> idnar: Hah, indeed. Fixing.
[00:33] <wgrant> Fixed.
[00:34] <wgrant> idnar: I thought it was right when I reviewed it.
[00:34] <wgrant> Someone actually corrected it to 'four' afterwards...
[00:34] <idnar> heh
[00:37] <lifeless> I would say 'PPAs only need the first component'
[00:37] <lifeless> and avoid the ambiguity
[00:38] <wgrant> Only need, or only have?
[00:42] <lifeless> have would be better
[00:42] <lifeless> I was rephrasing the existing sentence
[00:43] <wgrant> Right, was just proposing further alterations.
[00:43] <wgrant> Is done.
[01:22] <kalikiana> Is there a way to mark all Committed bugs as Released?
[01:31] <wgrant> kalikiana: There's no way to do it directly in Launchpad, but you can do it easily through the API, and there are several existing launchpadlib scripts that do that.
[01:34] <wgrant> lp:~mgiuca/+junk/launchpad-tools is one I've used.
[01:34] <wgrant> But there are many around that are slightly different. Some close all Fix Committed bugs in a milestone, others all in a project, some add comments, some don't...
[01:39] <kalikiana> wgrant: that looks perfectly like what I need, thanks a lot. I have only used the UI so far
[02:00] <lostogre> who here was working on bind 9.8.0rc1?
[02:20] <kalikiana> wgrant: I can't seem to use the script, it eats all my memory + swap and I need to kill it before it does anything :-(
[02:20] <kalikiana> Would you have any idea why that happens?
[02:22] <wgrant> kalikiana: What's the traceback if you kill it while it is eating?
[02:24] <kalikiana> it seems to be in File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/launchpadlib/credentials.py", line 242, in __call__
[02:24] <kalikiana> webbrowser.open(self.authorization_url)
[02:24] <kalikiana> it doesn't really make sense that opening a browser would need much memory
[02:26] <wgrant> One would think not...
[02:26] <kalikiana> wgrant: would you happen to know what url I need to open?
[02:27] <wgrant> It varies, because it contains the token URL.
[02:27] <kalikiana> hmm
[02:27] <wgrant> What happens if you strace it?
[02:28] <kalikiana> oh, very good idea, it seems to choke on xdg-open
[02:28] <wgrant> I've never seen that before. Does xdg-open work if you invoke it manually?
[02:34] <kalikiana> looks like it loops. and changing $BROWSER to not be xdg-open fixes it. which is odd because I didn't touch that variables in months
[02:35] <kalikiana> but not an lp issue in any case then
[02:40] <kalikiana> wgrant: works now, thanks again
[08:11] <micahg> uh, I just had a bugzilla.gnome status just go to unknown
[08:29] <lifeless> bug ?
[08:30] <micahg> bug 657227
[08:34] <lifeless> its marked resolved duplicate in the bug watch portlet
[08:36] <lifeless> and the duplication was just now
[08:36] <micahg> lifeless: ok, but still, should it go to unknown
[08:37] <micahg> should I set the new upstream or do you need this for testing?
[08:37] <lifeless> micahg: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636868
[08:37] <lifeless> unconfirmed
[08:37] <micahg> ok, but unconfirmed = New
[08:37] <lifeless> micahg: I don't know quite what the expected behaviour is here
[08:37] <lifeless> I would file a question about this and leave it be
[08:37] <lifeless> we should be able to do better
[08:37] <micahg> question as opposed to bug
[08:38] <lifeless> yes
[08:38] <lifeless> bugs are for defects
[08:38] <lifeless> questions are for, well, questions
[08:38] <lifeless> 'whats meant to happen' is not a bug :)
[08:40] <micahg> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/146088
[10:41] <slangasek> is there a way someone here could kill https://launchpad.net/~vorlon/+archive/multiarch/+buildjob/2274512 for me?
[10:42] <slangasek> it wasn't meant to try to build in that ppa, it was supposed to get binaries copied from a different ppa but I was too hasty and tried to copy before the binaries were fully published
[10:44] <wgrant> slangasek: Hm, it shouldn't have let you copy if there were unpublished builds...
[10:44] <slangasek> oops ;)
[10:46] <wgrant> Unfortunately we can't sensibly kill a building build without poking the builder directly.
[10:46] <wgrant> And even if I was to do that, it's possible the aborted build would block you from copying the i386 binaries in later.
[10:48] <slangasek> wgrant: well, I'm already routing around the need to copy by playing towers of hanoi with another ppa, but y'all might want that builder back sooner than 9 hours from now
[10:49] <wgrant> Heh. Let me try to kill it...
[10:50] <wgrant> Ah, actually, I can't.
[10:50] <wgrant> I can do it for recipe builds, but not binary builds yet.
[10:50] <slangasek> ok :/
[16:21] <lvh> Hello!
[16:21] <lvh> Is it possible to rename a project, or do I ask for it to be removed and create a new one?
[16:21] <lvh> Removal might actually be better: it's a replacement of a dead project.
[16:49] <micahg> lvh: file a question on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[16:58] <maxb> lvh: Renaming is possible, if it makes sense to do so
[17:03] <JoshBrown> How do I remove tags from a Bazaar branch on Launchpad?
[17:05] <maxb> JoshBrown: 'bzr tag --delete -d lp:.... tagname'
[17:06] <maxb> However... any merging of pushing from another branch which still has the tag will re-add it
[17:06] <maxb> s/of/or/
[17:08] <JoshBrown> maxb: Thanks, that's exactly what I'm looking for!
[17:27] <lvh> micahg: Thanks, I just did.
[17:48] <JoshBrown> When you create an original deb package on Launchpad, what should it be called? Am I correct in thinking it should be something along the lines of `name_1.0-0ubuntu1~ppa1_all.deb`?
[17:50] <micahg> JoshBrown: launchpad only accepts source uploads
[17:51] <JoshBrown> micahg: Okay, but nonetheless, what should the package be designated as? Do I include ubuntu1, ~ppa1, etc?
[17:54] <micahg> JoshBrown: I usually do ~series~ppa1 where series is the release targeted, if this is the first upload of that version, you can use UPSTREAMVERSION-0ubuntu1~series~ppa1
[17:58] <JoshBrown> micahg: I was mainly wondering whether it was `0ubuntu1` or just `0`. Thanks, that answers my question!
[17:59] <micahg> JoshBrown: technically either would be fine since 0 is lower than 0ubuntu1
[18:56] <maxb> JoshBrown: People exercise varying degrees of care about version numbers in PPAs, and there are several different schools of thought
[18:57] <maxb> For example, I think micahg's example is inverted, in the sense that series is usually the least significant part of your packaging efforts, so goes at the end.
[18:57] <micahg> maxb: the problem with that is you override official backports
[18:58] <maxb> Also, I'll explicitly avoid including 0ubuntu1 in versions unless I'm actually deriving a PPA package from an official ubuntu package version including that
[18:59] <maxb> hmm. I cynically care little about that on the basis that official backports seldom seem to actually happen :-/
[19:00] <JoshBrown> maxb: So you'd package as `name_1.0-0~ppa1~maverick`, for example?
[19:01] <maxb> I usually go with ~maverick1, and increment that number if I need to make a series-specific build fix
[19:02] <JoshBrown> maxb: Great, thanks!
[19:02] <maxb> Also, I tend to call things 0ppa1 rather than 0~ppa1
[19:03] <maxb> Mainly because I believe in using the magical ~ operator only when relevant, rather than as an arbitrary separator
[19:04] <maxb> Though I admit that I'm relying on the happenstance that 'ppa' < 'ubuntu' in doing so
[19:09] <micahg> maxb: actually, now with the extras repo, that isn't necessarily a good idea as it's 0series1 for the versioninig