[12:13] <gabaryah> alright
[12:13] <gabaryah> i'll have to use vista
[12:14] <gabaryah> once it's working than i'll install grub again but use MBR instead
[12:14] <elyon225> gabaryah: Looks like that may be your only option.
[12:14] <elyon225> gabaryah: I could be wrong, of course... but that seems the easiest thing to do with little chance of making more problems.
[12:15] <gabaryah> sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[12:15] <gabaryah> thats what i tried typing
[12:15] <elyon225> gabaryah: Maybe if Microsoft would put out a LiveCD of Vista, it would be easier to troubleshoot ;)
[12:16] <gabaryah> or /dev/hd0
[12:16] <gabaryah> maybe i should try /de/hd0
[12:16] <elyon225> gabaryah: You're on your own there... I've never manually installed grub
[12:17] <gabaryah> lol ok
[12:17] <elyon225> But... it would be /dev/hda0
[12:17] <gabaryah> right
[12:18] <elyon225> Alright, well it's time for me to take off... I'll try getting help with my problems later :)
[12:18] <moparisthebest> can someone help me with an fstab problem?
[12:18] <elyon225> Seeya... and good luck, gabaryah
[12:18] <gabaryah> i'll use vista to get back my defaut boot option
[12:18] <elyon225> !ask
[12:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:18] <moparisthebest> I installed ex2IFS in windows so I can view my linux partition
[12:18] <gabaryah> question after i have it working & use ubuntu live cd to install grub will it find vista?
[12:19] <moparisthebest> and now linux wont boot
[12:19] <moparisthebest> I think the UUID in fstab has changed, or rather needs to change now that windows changed my drive
[12:19] <moparisthebest> does anyone know how I would find that value to fix fstab?
[12:20] <VSpike> moparisthebest: it may not be the best solution, but you could specify manually using the old style /dev/hda1
[12:20] <Minataku> "Old style"
[12:20] <Minataku> ?
[12:20] <moparisthebest> VSpike, Ill show you the line
[12:20] <Minataku> You mean THE style
[12:20] <Minataku> lol
[12:20] <VSpike> yeah :)
[12:20] <moparisthebest> # /dev/sda1
[12:20] <moparisthebest> UUID=bb0fb71c-3943-49f9-baa3-7d031ad58c64 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[12:21] <moparisthebest> thats the 2 lines now
[12:21] <moparisthebest> can I get rid of the UUID thing ?
[12:21] <VSpike> the comments suggests you could try:
[12:22] <VSpike>  /dev/sda1    /    ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro    0    1
[12:22] <moparisthebest> ok, Ill try it, thanks
[12:22] <moparisthebest> stupid windows...
[12:22] <VSpike> Thunderbird looks really ugly in KDE... is there a way to sort it out?
[12:22] <VSpike> Mainly the big clunky fonts
[12:23] <Minataku> There we go
[12:23] <VSpike> I hate the Gnome style file dialogs too :/
[12:23] <Minataku> Nice and fast, all done CLI style
[12:23] <cpk1> whats wrong with kmail? =D
[12:23] <Minataku> VSpike: There's some thing to configure GTK stuff
[12:24] <VSpike> cpk1: I thought about that.. it's for my wife, who was used to thunderbird under windows.
[12:24] <VSpike> Baby steps
[12:24] <Minataku> Thankfully, despite their use of GTK, Firefox and Thunderbird kick total ass
[12:24] <Minataku> VSpike: No further steps needed
[12:24] <Minataku> Don't switch to crap when you're using gold
[12:24] <VSpike> :)
[12:24] <VSpike> I haven't used either enough to comment
[12:24] <Minataku> Firefox uber alles
[12:25] <Minataku> AMD-AM27C1024.bin:        BIOS (ia32) ROM Ext. (96*512)
[12:25] <Minataku> NATIONAL-NM27C010.bin:    BIOS (ia32) ROM Ext. IBM comp. Video (64*512)
[12:25] <AHinMaine> quick question, what's the equivalent of 'rpm -qf /some/filename' to see in which package a file belongs?
[12:25] <Alumin> moparisthebest: it's an alternate reference method
[12:25] <Minataku> Awesome, file(1) identified them
[12:25] <cpk1> i havent run into any problems with kmail...
[12:25] <Alumin> you can also do LABEL=/ or such if your volumes have labels
[12:25] <Minataku> AMD-AM27C512.bin:         BIOS (ia32) ROM Ext. (64*512)
[12:25] <Minataku> Well, not all of them
[12:25] <Alumin> but people usually just call them by device name
[12:25] <VSpike> Minataku: In the KDE System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK Styles and fonts, I have use my KDE theme and use my KDE fonts selected
[12:26] <slyfox> Can someone please help with this error: http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2701/amarokerror36pi.jpg
[12:26] <Minataku> 3 out of 7 but that's pretty good for file(1) being fed BIOS images
[12:26] <Minataku> lol
[12:26] <moparisthebest> ok Alumin thanks, I just referenced it by the device name, it should work
[12:26] <VSpike> cpk1: I'm definitely not convinced by Evolution
[12:26] <Minataku> VSpike: Hm... weird
[12:26] <moparisthebest> I can test after this finished compressing...
[12:26] <slyfox> How do I make it so that russian characters are displayed in Kbuntu - I am a noob
[12:26] <Minataku> Slow down there, one problem at a time
[12:26] <Minataku> lol
[12:26] <moparisthebest> slyfox, you can apt-get the fonts I believe
[12:26] <cpk1> i barely used evolution back in the day so i cant comment on that
[12:26] <ejm> quit petting people!
[12:26] <Minataku> In this instance, for your sake
[12:27] <Minataku> ejm: NEVAR
[12:27] <Minataku> Wait
[12:27] <Minataku> Why?
[12:27] <slyfox> moparisthebest: there are so many of them, any idea what ?
[12:27] <ejm> jk
[12:27] <Minataku> slyfox: Any
[12:27] <slyfox> Minataku: pets ?
[12:27] <m1291> need help to install ftp
[12:27] <moparisthebest> slyfox, just the russian ones
[12:27] <ejm> need help installing ati drivers.
[12:27] <moparisthebest> in about 20 minutes I can look for you :P
[12:27] <Minataku> slyfox: Yes, pet, like one would pet a cute little kitty or a cute little fox
[12:27] <Alumin> m1291: apt-get install kftpgrabber
[12:27] <Minataku> Or similar
[12:27] <ejm> but I'm sure I'll find it on the wiki.
[12:28] <slyfox> moparisthebest: will this solve this problem? http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2701/amarokerror36pi.jpg
[12:28] <Minataku> An SGS M2716 EPROM has 2048 bytes of storage
[12:28] <Minataku> Today's trivia
[12:28] <slyfox> Minataku: I should go into Adept and type this in and downlaod it  - "pets"  ?
[12:28] <Alumin> ejm: ATI distributes their own GUI installer now that you can use
[12:28] <moparisthebest> it looks like it would slyfox
[12:28] <Minataku> slyfox: No, no, no
[12:28] <Minataku> lol
[12:28] <Alumin> or you can install the fglrx packages
[12:28] <ejm> ok
[12:28] <ejm> thanks.
[12:28] <Alumin> uh
[12:28] <Minataku> I pet you as in an action, literally as one would a dog or cat
[12:28] <Minataku> lol
[12:28] <Alumin> linux-restricted modules
[12:29] <Alumin> look at that package, it has fglrx
[12:29] <slyfox> Bleeehhh
[12:29] <ejm> I'm a suse guy, but I don't have enough RAM to run suse anymore.
[12:29] <Alumin> or is it linux-modules-restricted
[12:29] <Minataku> Sorry, I didn't intend to confuse you
[12:29] <Alumin> something like that
[12:29] <Minataku> ejm: So you picked a distro with KDE as default? :P
[12:29] <Alumin> apt-cache search fglrx :p
[12:29] <ejm> yeah
[12:29] <ejm> Kde is good,
[12:30] <Minataku> Not for low-RAM systems
[12:30] <AHinMaine> Minataku: actually I just switched away from suse 10.2.  The default kde install of ubuntu is using about 150-200MB less ram than suse.
[12:30] <ejm> I'm going to probably switch to xfce.
[12:30] <slyfox>  Does anyone know which one is better to use? smbfs ir cifs ?
[12:30] <Minataku> ejm: If you're not seriously GUI codependent, use a lightweight WM
[12:30] <Minataku> Like fluxbox, which is one I'm partial to
[12:30] <VSpike> Minataku: That's wierd. It actually looks OK my login, but chunky on hers.  Our settings are pretty much the same AFAICT.  Anyway, in hers I've forced GT style and 8pt fonts in the GTK appearance, and now it looks fine
[12:31] <VSpike> Minataku: So problem solved, but kind of odd.
[12:31] <m1291> how to change to root?
[12:31] <Alumin> slyfox: samba is an implementation of SMB/CIFS
[12:31] <Minataku> VSpike: Well, there's two different settings for the two different people
[12:32] <ejm> Well, I don't know my way around terminals to go full-time Slackware, and gentoo is too much techno stuff for me to handle anymore.
[12:32] <Alumin> ejm: are you aware of Xubuntu?
[12:32] <ejm> yeah
[12:32] <Alumin> k
[12:32] <slyfox> Alumin: implementation
[12:32] <ejm> I'm always looking for new distros to try.
[12:32] <slyfox> Alumin: implementation  ?
[12:32] <VSpike> Minataku: Yeah, and although we don't use the same styles, both logins had those GTK to use KDE fonts/themes settings, and both had similar styles and fonts for KDE apps.
[12:32] <Alumin> slyfox: from the "user perspective", SMB and CIFS are the same thing
[12:33] <VSpike> Minataku: Maybe it is a bug with whichever style she was using.
[12:33] <Alumin> they're both MS protocols implemented by Samba
[12:33] <m1291> How do I change to root?
[12:33] <Minataku> Hm
[12:33] <TAMACRACKA> :\ I keep tryin to open a program, and it just closes instantly without even opening.
[12:33] <Minataku> VSpike: That is weird, then
[12:33] <Alumin> m1291: su, sudo
[12:33] <Minataku> Perhaps she didn't have access to some fonts or something, I dunno
[12:33] <Minataku> It's fixed now
[12:33] <Minataku> lol
[12:33] <VSpike> lol
[12:33] <VSpike> yeah
[12:33] <m1291> ?
[12:33] <slyfox> Does anyone know hot to automatically mount samba shares in a wireless network? Meaning there must be a delay before it mounts, because I first need to establsih the connection.
[12:34] <VSpike> Is there any way I can make the menus and dialogs in xmms and other not QT/GTK apps look less 1980's?
[12:34] <LjL> xmms *is* a GTK app. it's just GTK 1
[12:34] <TAMACRACKA> is there any way possible i can get my program to open without having to restart my machine?
[12:34] <VSpike> I know it's a small detail
[12:34] <VSpike> ljl ah ok .. soz
[12:34] <LjL> and VSpike, you can change the theme, but they'll never quite look very good
[12:34] <Minataku> Hey, 1980s looks cool
[12:34] <VSpike> sometimes
[12:35] <Minataku> Or any system where I can get CDE for free with
[12:35] <Minataku> Motif's look FTW
[12:36] <slyfox> I want to install cyrillic fonts so that I can display files which have russian names, but when I go to Adept and type cyrillic, I get so many results. I am a confused noob :-( Help
[12:36] <AHinMaine> anyone skilled with the package commands here?
[12:36] <ejm> ugh, I can't stand CDE.
[12:36] <ejm> too 1980s.
[12:37] <Minataku> I love CDE, 1980s and nothing newer <3
[12:37] <ejm> even though CDE isn't from the '80s.
[12:37] <Minataku> Motif is from around then
[12:37] <ejm> Anyhoo, I need to do some other stuff. Thanks for the bit of help.
[12:37] <VSpike> I love retro computing but it just looks out of place in KDE
[12:37] <AHinMaine> ejm:  i haven't looked to see it's available in a repository or anything, but you might give windowmaker a try.  very lightweight, and it's got a very nice configuration tool.
[12:37] <Minataku> And that's what CDE uses
[12:37] <ejm> oooh yeah
[12:37] <ubuntu> hi
[12:38] <ejm> I forgot--most debian distros have many more packages and GUIs than suse.
[12:38] <Minataku> Eh... I'm partial to Fluxbox
[12:38] <ejm> That one too.
[12:38] <Minataku> Very lightweight, no frills
[12:38] <ejm> yeah
[12:38] <VSpike> gnustep was ok
[12:38] <Minataku> Does what it's supposed to do... manage windows, launch things and stay out of my way
[12:38] <VSpike> fvwm2
[12:38] <simbios> kubuntu uses suspend2 for hibernating?
[12:38] <ejm> oh that reminds me, what do some of you think of debian's fork of firefox/tunderbird?
[12:38] <Alumin> slyfox: try "apt-cache search cyrillic | grep -i font"
[12:39] <Alumin> ejm: iceweasel?
[12:39] <ejm> oh wait, this is kubuntu--no firefox on kubuntu.
[12:39] <ejm> yes, iceweasel.
[12:39] <slyfox> Alumin: I get a lot of results, too many
[12:39] <Alumin> I'm glad the two parties found a way to make it work that satisfied both their needs
[12:40] <m1291> tried to login with su but password is wrong, how to do?
[12:40] <ejm> yeah.
[12:40] <ejm> sudo instead of su
[12:40] <LjL> Ubotu, tell m1291 about root | m1291, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:40] <Alumin> a lot of people complain that Debian is being elitist with the iceweasel thing
[12:40] <Alumin> but
[12:40] <Minataku> Speaking of old computers I'm in the Lecture/Lab Microprocessors class now, and I used some spare time (gained because I'm good with computers already) to dump a bunch of ROMs from computers I've taken apart
[12:40] <Minataku> lol
[12:40] <ejm> well, Debian is a free-software organization.
[12:40] <Alumin> if you notice, it's the same demographic that complains about the lack of proprietary multimedia codecs and stuff like that
[12:40] <ejm> wow.
[12:40] <Alumin> which is the entire point of Debian
[12:41] <ejm> yeah
[12:41] <Minataku> Debian sh?ts themselves over anything that doesn't fit their stupid guidelines
[12:41] <VSpike> The other wierd thing I have is that I tried making some changes in the Login Manager in system settings, but most of them did not work
[12:41] <Minataku> And come on... "Iceweasel"?
[12:41] <Alumin> if you want all that stuff installed by default, get Fedora or Mandrake or Lindows or something
[12:41] <Minataku> Firefox FTW, "Iceweasel" FTL
[12:41] <Minataku> Alumin: I took a different path
[12:41] <tamacracka> Minataku!
[12:41] <ejm> Anyway, I should check my laptop out, see if there's some new kde stuff.
[12:41] <tamacracka> i restarted my machine
[12:42] <Alumin> Debian is the Manowar of GNU/Linux distributions
[12:42] <Minataku> tamacracka: And?
[12:42] <tamacracka> and it unmounted again
[12:42] <tamacracka> i got an error
[12:42] <tamacracka> hold on
[12:42] <Minataku> tamacracka: The important thing is that I was right and GRUB worked flawlessly
[12:42] <xsacha> can someone tell me how i get ndiswrapper working for my laptop which has a wireless card? it cant get the internet and i dont have windows
[12:42] <Minataku> XD
[12:42] <tamacracka> lol
[12:42] <tamacracka> yeah but i uh..
[12:42] <tamacracka> put my back up files back on it
[12:42] <VSpike> I wonder, what do the free software purists use for advanced 3d graphics work in the way of hardware?
[12:42] <tamacracka> and uh..
[12:42] <tamacracka> i really need those files
[12:42] <xsacha> and got no spare cds
[12:42] <tamacracka> and it unmounted again
[12:42] <Minataku> tamacracka: I'm sure the drive is okay
[12:42] <Minataku> Easily remounted
[12:43] <tamacracka> i clicked on mount
[12:43] <Alumin> they don't waver at all, and you know what...when (if?) the day comes that there are free software alternatives for all this stuff, Debian (and its descendants) are going to be the clear best distro
[12:43] <tamacracka> and it said it can't find an NTFS file
[12:43] <Minataku> Even if it was an improper shutdown it should be okay, ext3 is pretty strong (not that you should do it all the time)
[12:43] <tamacracka> should i delete FUSE?
[12:43] <Minataku> tamacracka: No, no
[12:43] <Minataku> It must think it's still an NTFS partition
[12:43] <tamacracka> :\ it still thinks it's an NTFS
[12:43] <tamacracka> yeah!
[12:43] <tamacracka> how do i clear this problem?
[12:44] <Minataku> Find where that thought is stored and change it
[12:44] <tamacracka> LOL
[12:44] <tamacracka> keep in mind, im a noob
[12:44] <Minataku> Stupid autoconfiguration crap, you'd think it'd be smart enough to notice when something is different
[12:44] <tamacracka> lol right?
[12:44] <tamacracka> i remember doing somethin in the changelog?
[12:44] <tamacracka> i forgot what it's called
[12:44] <Minataku> tamacracka: Keep in mind, I have no clue how Kubuntu manages any of that fancy user-obfuscation crap
[12:44] <Minataku> lol
[12:45] <Alumin> personally I like the name iceweasel, it makes me smile
[12:45] <tamacracka> oh boy
[12:45] <tamacracka> i dunno what to do at this point.
[12:45] <Minataku> Easy, keep-the-user-away things tend to obfuscate everything and make real administration difficult
[12:45] <Minataku> tamacracka: You can mount it manually
[12:45] <tamacracka> through terminal?
[12:45] <Minataku> Indeed
[12:45] <Minataku> Where do you want it?
[12:45] <tamacracka> mount /media/hda1
[12:45] <tamacracka> ?
[12:45] <SpYmAn> SOmebody knows how install counter strike on Kubuntu??
[12:46] <Minataku> Okay... that directory is owned by you, right?
[12:46] <tamacracka> yeah should be >.>
[12:46] <VSpike> Some people should not be allowed email
[12:46] <Minataku> First... one sec
[12:46] <tamacracka> lol VSpike
[12:47] <VSpike> tamacracka: sorry... just receiving really old and not even funny the first time email "jokes" from a relative
[12:47] <Minataku> Okay
[12:47] <Minataku> tamacracka: Type id and tell me what your UID is
[12:47] <tamacracka> ha
[12:47] <Alumin> SpYmAn: good luck, Valve games aren't very Linux-friendly these days thanks to Steam
[12:47] <tamacracka> ok
[12:47] <Minataku> It'll probably be something like 1000 but I want to be sure
[12:48] <genii> Minataku :)
[12:48] <Minataku> Heya, genii :D
[12:48] <Alumin> or did they finally make a Linux steam client
[12:48] <tamacracka> id
[12:48] <tamacracka> does nothing.
[12:48] <tamacracka> di?
[12:48] <Minataku> tamacracka: Aw, damn it >.<
[12:48] <Minataku> tamacracka: No, it's "id"
[12:48] <Minataku> I guess Kubuntu doesn't have it
[12:48] <tamacracka> nope
[12:48] <tamacracka> nada
[12:48] <Minataku> One sec
[12:48] <BluesKaj> VSpike, joke of the day , no doubt , there are some funny ones but most are pretty lame
[12:48] <Alumin> everything has id
[12:48] <matt0507> hi guys
[12:48] <SpYmAn> ok.. thx
[12:49] <matt0507> is there anyway to play embeded wmv files in firefix?
[12:49] <tamacracka> ok
[12:49] <Alumin> tamacracka: what about /usr/bin/id
[12:49] <tamacracka> type that into terminal?
[12:49] <BluesKaj> yes matt0507, make sure you have mplayer plugin installed
[12:49] <Alumin> it's in coreutils, if you don't have it then you've got bigger problems
[12:49] <Minataku> tamacracka: Yeah, try that
[12:50] <Alumin> matt0507: check out mozplugger too
[12:50] <Minataku> Alumin: I don't track what's in where, lol
[12:50] <tamacracka> uid=1000(tamacracker) gid=1000(tamacracker) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),109(lpadmin),111(scanner),114(admin),115(fuse),1000(tamacracker)
[12:50] <Minataku> Okay
[12:50] <Minataku> It was 1000
[12:50] <BluesKaj> VSpike, http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/
[12:50] <Minataku> tamacracka: "sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1"
[12:51] <BluesKaj> err sorry matt0507, http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/
[12:51] <Minataku> That SHOULD do it and you SHOULD have access to it as yourself
[12:51] <Alumin> isn't that the same URL?
[12:51] <tamacracka> ok
[12:51] <CSonicGo> weird
[12:51] <Alumin> oh n/m
[12:51] <AdamF2> Not too sure how to approach this one, but does anyone know why it's not possible to 'pre-boot' k/x/ubuntu from floppies? It's sad I have to run Slackware on my laptop because I can't boot the cds natively.
[12:51] <CSonicGo> I'm trying to enter admin mode in control panel but it's just sitting there. :(
[12:52] <tamacracka> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[12:52] <tamacracka>        missing codepage or other error
[12:52] <tamacracka>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[12:52] <tamacracka>        dmesg | tail  or so
[12:52] <tamacracka> ack >< >< ><
[12:52] <BluesKaj> Alumin, yes, but the first one was addressed to the wrong person
[12:52] <Minataku> Crap
[12:52] <Minataku> tamacracka: "sudo mount -t ext3 -o uid=1000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1"
[12:52] <Alumin> AdamF2: whether or not your machine can boot CD-ROMs is not an OS issue
[12:52] <matt0507> thanks guys, im installing mplayer package :)
[12:52] <Minataku> If that gives the same thing, then something is amiss
[12:52] <Alumin> oh wait, misunderstood the queation
[12:53] <Alumin> AdamF2: you can make a grub boot floppy
[12:53] <wimpies> does anybody know the easies way to use kmail to send large attachments that need to be split up in multiple parts ?
[12:53] <tamacracka> damn
[12:53] <Minataku> tamacracka: Something might be interfering
[12:53] <tamacracka> the stupid FUSE?
[12:53] <Minataku> "df" and check that it isn't already half-mounted or something
[12:53] <BluesKaj> use www.yousendit .com , wimpies
[12:53] <tamacracka> can't i just uninstall it?
[12:53] <Minataku> tamacracka: If you can disable it, try that
[12:53] <AdamF2> Alumin: This ancient laptop has a PCMCIA cd-rom drive, and a parallel floppy drive (that it can boot off), slackware permits floppy-boot to load pcmcia drivers and off we go. Be cool if ubuntu did something similar.
[12:54] <Minataku> It very well could be interfering
[12:54] <Alumin> isn't fuse providing the NTFS access in the first place?
[12:54] <tamacracka> oh df
[12:54] <tamacracka> it's not even listed
[12:54] <Minataku> Hopefully it didn't corrupt the volume or something...  Heh, this is going to keep me entertained all night.
[12:57] <tamacracka> ok
[12:57] <Minataku> tamacracka: That's normal, that's in the menu.lst
[12:57] <Minataku> It's a defunct entry now
[12:58] <Alumin> AdamF2: they're both using the Linux kernel, drivers should be the same
[12:58] <tamacracka> yeah i gotta delete that after i mount my drive lol
[12:58] <surgy> how do i make numlock turn on when ubuntu starts?
[12:58] <Minataku> GRUB does no detecting, it's all configured
[12:58] <surgy> kubuntu*
[12:58] <Alumin> although you may want to make a note of which one(s) it's using
[12:58] <tamacracka> understood
[12:58] <tamacracka> by disabling
[12:58] <AdamF2> Thanks Alumin
[12:58] <tamacracka> am i to uninstall it?
[12:58] <Alumin> AdamF2: sure...good luck
[12:58] <tamacracka> or delete it off the file?
[12:58] <Minataku> tamacracka: Uninstall or disable ntfs-3g somehow or just get it to release the drive
[12:59] <tamacracka> i remember i opened a file with fedit or kate whatever and i had to type into it and save.
[12:59] <Minataku> It's configured somewhere that this drive is supposed to be NTFS but it isn't anymore
[12:59] <tamacracka> ok im gonna uninstall it.
[12:59] <m1291> is there any good site with info how to install different programs
[12:59] <Minataku> tamacracka: Could always backtrack those instructions
[12:59] <Minataku> Get ntfs-3g to release the drive
[12:59] <tamacracka> i dunno how to do that...
[12:59] <tamacracka> all i know
[01:00] <tamacracka> is install
[01:00] <Minataku> !ntfs-3g
[01:00] <tamacracka> uninstall
[01:00] <tamacracka> and operate
[01:00] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:00] <m1291> is there any good site with info how to install different programs?
[01:00] <tamacracka> k brb
[01:00] <surgy> minataku: how do i make num lock auto enable at kubuntu start?
[01:01] <VSpike> I dont get it - when i change settings in the System Settings -> Login Manager, it's like it partially make s the changes but they get overridden by the default Kubuntu login
[01:01] <Minataku> surgy: I don't know, sorry
[01:01] <Alumin> surgy: are you going straight into X when you boot?
[01:01] <surgy> minataku: np
[01:01] <Alumin> cause if you only need it on for X, just apt-get install numlockx
[01:01] <surgy> alumin: yes automaticly
[01:01] <VSpike> Like if I set wallpaper, I see it for a moment, then I see the standard kubuntu blue... then after putting in user/pass, I see it again briefly before the standard splash kicks in.
[01:01] <surgy> alumin: and it configures itself on boot?
[01:01] <Minataku> tamacracka: Remember, uninstalling ntfs-3g or whatever won't really affect anything because the drive isn't NTFS anymore
[01:02] <surgy> alumin: on install that is
[01:02] <Alumin> surgy: depends on your definition of boot :)
[01:02] <VSpike> And if I enable the userlist, I don't see it.  But turning on autocompletion seems to have an effect.
[01:02] <VSpike> Very strange!
[01:02] <Alumin> techinically no, only when X starts
[01:02] <Alumin> but for most people these days, those things are interchangeable
[01:02] <Alumin> now that all these colored pixels are all the rage
[01:02] <Minataku> Technically bootup is only the bootstrap procedure, which is initiated by the BIOS whose code is run by the CPU from it's reset state
[01:02] <tamacracka> ><
[01:03] <surgy> alumin: well it was a miss type: what i ment was is that numlockx configures itself automaticly without commands issued when aptitude installs it?
[01:03] <Minataku> After GRUB loads, bootup is over
[01:03] <tamacracka> Mina... i dunno what to do guy.
[01:03] <tamacracka> if i retrace my steps
[01:03] <BluesKaj> oh, that reminds me is there a capsunlock utility for (k)ubuntu ?
[01:03] <tamacracka> all im doin is uninstalling and deleting the file.
[01:03] <Alumin> surgy: I would assume so, I haven't used it myself
[01:03] <Minataku> tamacracka: I can't imagine why forcing the fs type didn't work
[01:03] <surgy> alumin: kewl ill check it out thanks for the info
[01:03] <Minataku> tamacracka: Look in /etc/fstab for an entry for it
[01:03] <tamacracka> i dunno man
[01:04] <tamacracka> gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:04] <tamacracka> ?
[01:04] <slyfox> This is so annoying. Anyone knows how to make back and formward mouse buttons work n Knqueror ?
[01:04] <Minataku> What? No
[01:04] <Minataku> tamacracka: Open a terminal and "cat /etc/fstab"
[01:04] <tamacracka> or gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[01:04] <tamacracka> ok
[01:04] <moparisthebest> when I try to boot kubuntu, in recovery mode, it hangs on 'Begin: Waiting for root filesystem'
[01:04] <Minataku> Well, we're just looking ATM
[01:04] <moparisthebest> the problem started when I installed ext2ifs in windows
[01:04] <Minataku> If it's done by UUID I'm gonna cry
[01:04] <Alumin> surgy: if you need it in console too, check out console-tools and/or kbd
[01:05] <moparisthebest> fstab is done by uuid
[01:05] <warbisshop> is there any kubuntu that has tie to listen to my problem ?
[01:05] <surgy> alumin: will do thanks again
[01:05] <moparisthebest> its the first thing I checked when I had a problem
[01:05] <warbisshop> kubuntu person that has time *
[01:05] <Minataku> F?ck you, *buntu, f?ck you *cries*
[01:05] <tamacracka> Mina
[01:05] <tamacracka> http://pastebin.com/866626
[01:06] <Minataku> Well, I may still figure it out
[01:06] <warbisshop> i'm using a laptop and an x700 mobility graphics card. but i cant get into my graphical shell
[01:06] <Minataku> AH HA
[01:06] <warbisshop> can anyone aid me ?
[01:06] <Minataku> tamacracka: Kill that last line
[01:07] <Minataku> Use your GUI editor and wipe out that line at the bottom
[01:07] <tamacracka> what last line?
[01:08] <tamacracka> how do i kill it?
[01:08] <tamacracka> lol
[01:08] <Minataku> /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs-3g defaults,users,auto,rw, 0
[01:08] <tamacracka> delete it?
[01:08] <Minataku> Open it an editor and backspace it all out
[01:08] <Minataku> Yes
[01:08] <tamacracka> woohoo ok
[01:08] <Minataku> Get rid of it then save
[01:08] <warbisshop> i'm using a laptop and an x700 mobility graphics card. but i cant get into my graphical shell. Is anyone free to help me ?
[01:08] <moparisthebest> when I try to boot kubuntu, in recovery mode, it hangs on 'Begin: Waiting for root filesystem', the problem started when I installed ext2ifs in windows, is there any way to fix it?
[01:09] <moparisthebest> I already edited fstab to not go by UUID
[01:09] <moparisthebest> it didnt change anything :/
[01:09] <tamacracka> ok
[01:09] <tamacracka> after deleted and saved
[01:09] <tamacracka> shall i restart x?
[01:09] <Minataku> No
[01:09] <tamacracka> ok
[01:09] <Minataku> Now type "sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1"
[01:10] <AHinMaine> anyone skilled with package commands?
[01:10] <m1291> tried to install gftp but can't find the file, how to do?
[01:10] <CSonicGo> anyone know why I can't seem to format floppies or read a floppy disk at all?
[01:10] <tamacracka> Minataku
[01:10] <tamacracka> same error as before
[01:11] <Minataku> F?CK
[01:11] <Minataku> Now type "sudo mount -o uid=1000 -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1"
[01:11] <Minataku> If that gives the same damn error "cat /etc/fstab" and make sure it didn't put that damn line back
[01:12] <tamacracka> ><
[01:12] <tamacracka> ok
[01:12] <tamacracka> please forgive me for this guys
[01:12] <tamacracka> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[01:12] <tamacracka> #
[01:12] <tamacracka> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[01:12] <Minataku> No, nonononon >.<
[01:12] <tamacracka> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[01:12] <tamacracka> # /dev/hdb1
[01:13] <tamacracka> UUID=616a713b-9e57-4e8d-ad30-53179d5db719 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[01:13] <tamacracka> # /dev/hdb5
[01:13] <tamacracka> UUID=e21d46cf-a0b7-4a98-8673-e11c0f4014f3 none            swap    sw              0       0
[01:13] <tamacracka> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:13] <tamacracka> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:13] <tamacracka> tamacracker@tamacracker:~$
[01:13] <tamacracka> ><
[01:13] <tamacracka> sorry
[01:13] <tamacracka> im being lazy with pastebin
[01:13] <tamacracka> i wont do it again
[01:13] <LjL> can't you just use the stupid pastebin?
[01:13] <tamacracka> yeah i will
[01:13] <LjL> you better not
[01:13] <tamacracka> sorry
[01:13] <Minataku> Well, it's not back, so there's that
[01:13] <Minataku> Aaargh
[01:13] <Minataku> tamacracka: You don't need ntfs-3g anymore
[01:13] <Minataku> Uninstall it... with a vengeance
[01:14] <Minataku> That is, do it properly but angrily
[01:14] <tamacracka> lol
[01:14] <tamacracka> i am right now lol
[01:14] <Minataku> After that you'll probably need to reboot since this seems like one of those Windows-style pieces of crap
[01:15] <tamacracka> lol
[01:15] <moparisthebest> Minataku, you seem familiar with fstab, have any idea what my problem is?
[01:15] <tamacracka> im gonna restart X
[01:15] <Minataku> tamacracka: Natch
[01:15] <tamacracka> brb
[01:15] <Minataku> The GUI isn't tied to the OS
[01:15] <Minataku> You have to restart the whole computer
[01:15] <tamacracka> oh ok
[01:15] <tamacracka> ill do the whole machine
[01:16] <LjL> hardly ever *have* to restart...
[01:16] <moparisthebest> I cant even get into linux :(
[01:16] <Minataku> LjL: When you're using crap like ntfs-3g and other bull you do
[01:16] <m1291> tried to open a file in shell with gedit but it don't work. wich text editor is it in kubuntu?
[01:16] <Minataku> moparisthebest: What was yours?
[01:16] <moparisthebest> when I try to boot kubuntu, in recovery mode, it hangs on 'Begin: Waiting for root filesystem', the problem started when I installed ext2ifs in windows, is there any way to fix it?
[01:17] <moparisthebest> I already edited fstab to not go by UUID
[01:17] <LjL> Minataku: i see :)
[01:17] <Minataku> LjL: At least I assume, it seems like the situation warrants a restart to flush all that sh?t away
[01:18] <Minataku> moparisthebest: Last time I had that, I never managed to fix it
[01:18] <CSonicGo> Hey, is there any kind of GUI interface where I can check Hard disks and other media, fix errors and mount/unmount drives?
[01:18] <LjL> Minataku: i'll grant that it's often less of a headache to restart than to find out what the problem is ;)
[01:18] <Minataku> It was a Debian install that exploded its own initramfs
[01:18] <moparisthebest> eww, thats not good Minataku
[01:19] <Minataku> LjL: Well, in this case the problem was known, some stupid crap was forcing everything to think that this one partition was NTFS and nothing else
[01:19] <Minataku> God forbid we know better than the stupid-ass NTFS driver crap
[01:19] <LjL> Minataku: rmmod?
[01:19] <moparisthebest> is there any way to reinstall kubuntu but not overwrite my /home/ directory?
[01:19] <Minataku> LjL: Can't be trusted, especially on prebuilt kernels
[01:20] <LjL> moparisthebest: yeah, using the alternate CD and doing a bit of manual work
[01:20] <moparisthebest> hmm, ok, thats the last thing I wanted to do, but if I have to...
[01:20] <Minataku> Removing modules could be disabled, it may require a force which could also be disabled and even if it isn't it's not good to tear sh?t out of the kernel like that
[01:21] <Minataku> Which is why force-removing a module will taint the running kernel
[01:21] <tamacracka> Mina
[01:21] <Minataku> Please have good news
[01:21] <tamacracka> now the hard drive icon is  a folder icon lol
[01:21] <Minataku> Click it
[01:21] <Minataku> See what happens
[01:21] <tamacracka> nothing
[01:21] <Minataku> If there's stuff inside then we all win
[01:22] <Minataku> Well, open it up
[01:22] <tamacracka> lol
[01:22] <tamacracka> nothing
[01:22] <tamacracka> nothin's in it
[01:22] <Minataku> Aaaarrgh
[01:22] <tamacracka> it's unmounted
[01:22] <tamacracka> i even checked with gparted
[01:22] <Minataku> tamacracka: Oh
[01:22] <Minataku> Mount it then
[01:22] <tamacracka> idid
[01:22] <tamacracka> error
[01:22] <Minataku> @!$%$@!$@
[01:22] <tamacracka> the same ol error
[01:22] <Minataku> Check fstab
[01:23] <Minataku> Make sure it's not "ntfs-3g" again
[01:23] <Minataku> If it's not, fsck it, "sudo fsck /dev/hda1"
[01:24] <tamacracka> http://pastebin.com/866637
[01:24] <tamacracka> isn't..
[01:24] <Minataku> Okay
[01:24] <Minataku> fsck it
[01:24] <tamacracka> hda1 supposed to be in there?
[01:24] <Minataku> tamacracka: Only if it's done automatically
[01:24] <tamacracka> fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)
[01:24] <tamacracka> e2fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)
[01:24] <tamacracka> /dev/hda1: recovering journal
[01:24] <Minataku> GOOD, let it run
[01:24] <tamacracka> ok
[01:25] <Minataku> It looks like the fs is intact, I just wanted to be positive on that, though
[01:25] <tamacracka>  /dev/hda1: clean, 1353/19546112 files, 4116575/39072080 blocks
[01:25] <Minataku> EXCELLENT
[01:25] <tamacracka> lol
[01:25] <Minataku> It's intact, the fault isn't the filesystem
[01:25] <tamacracka> ok
[01:25] <Minataku> Okay
[01:25] <CSonicGo> ok how do I mount a device
[01:25] <CSonicGo> I'm tired of hearing /fstab/ or whatever
[01:26] <CSonicGo> what do I do :(
[01:26] <Minataku> Once again... "sudo mount -t ext3 -o uid=1000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1"
[01:26] <tamacracka> nah man
[01:26] <Minataku> If it fails, something is still forcing mount to think it's NTFS
[01:27] <tamacracka> failed
[01:27] <Minataku> Type "dmesg | tail" and pastebin it
[01:27] <Minataku> I want to see just how damn retarded your kernel is
[01:27] <Minataku> XD
[01:28] <tamacracka> lol
[01:28] <CSonicGo> can anyone help me please?
[01:28] <andre_> can someone point to a good howto to get my 5.1 surround working (using an nvidia onboard soundcard)
[01:28] <tamacracka> http://pastebin.com/866641
[01:30] <Minataku> Okay, I'm a dumbass and should have asked for this long ago
[01:30] <Minataku> XD
[01:30] <Minataku> Just do... "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1"
[01:30] <tamacracka> lol
[01:31] <Minataku> Yeah, I feel incredibly stupid right now... ext3 has no uid= option
[01:31] <tamacracka> Mina
[01:31] <tamacracka> lol
[01:31] <Minataku> Oh, well, nobody's perfect
[01:31] <tamacracka> maybe you should uh...
[01:31] <tamacracka> take a nap?
[01:31] <tamacracka> LOL
[01:32] <tamacracka> that's all i had to do LOL
[01:32] <Minataku> lol
[01:32] <Minataku> And you as a normal user have access and everythig?
[01:32] <tamacracka> im checkin right now :P
[01:32] <Minataku> Read/Write/Execute/Crap all over it
[01:32] <Minataku> etc
[01:32] <Minataku> XD
[01:32] <tamacracka> oh crappy crap
[01:32] <tamacracka> the files are missing.
[01:32] <tamacracka> ><
[01:33] <tamacracka> uh
[01:33] <tamacracka> or not..
[01:33] <tamacracka> wtf
[01:33] <Minataku> lol?
[01:33] <tamacracka> they uh.. reappeared
[01:33] <tamacracka> <,<
[01:33] <juano__> tamacracka: what u need to do?
[01:33] <Minataku> Probably the GUI doing something
[01:33] <tamacracka> wooohoo
[01:33] <tamacracka> juano everything's good now :P
[01:33] <tamacracka> Mina
[01:33] <tamacracka> one last thing
[01:33] <Minataku> tamacracka: Got proper permissions and everything?
[01:33] <tamacracka> how do i delete windows xp off my Grub List lol
[01:33] <tamacracka> yes sir
[01:34] <Minataku> tamacracka: YAY!
[01:34] <Minataku> XD
[01:34] <Minataku> Sorry to drag you through so much when it was really just my dumbass mistake XD
[01:34] <tamacracka> lol
[01:34] <tamacracka> haha
[01:34] <juano__> tamacracka: go into /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment all the lines refering to your windows partition
[01:34] <warbisshop> does anyone have a good how to get the xserver to work
[01:34] <juano__> tamacracka: thats how u get windows of the menu in grub
[01:35] <tamacracka> so i should gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[01:35] <Minataku> tamacracka: I forgot that mount pukes all that scary crap for EVERY error
[01:35] <warbisshop> when you use an Ati mobility card
[01:35] <Minataku> tamacracka: Yeah, just pastebin that
[01:35] <tamacracka> ok :P
[01:35] <Minataku> I'll repaste the fixed file
[01:35] <rubio> alguien q hable espaol????
[01:35] <Minataku> Don't worry, I'll do this one right the first tie
[01:35] <Minataku> I promise
[01:35] <Minataku> lol
[01:35] <Minataku> !es | rubio
[01:35] <ubotu> rubio: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:35] <rickympl> hi
[01:36] <Minataku> I edit my menu.lst every time I install a new kernel
[01:36] <Minataku> I manually set up the entry for the new kernel, no automatic crap
[01:36] <LjL> ...
[01:36] <rickympl> anyone know how to have the kde menu sorted alphabetically, right now i have a menu, with no type of sort, a great mess
[01:36] <Minataku> make all && make modules_install && make install
[01:36] <tamacracka> http://pastebin.com/866642
[01:36] <Minataku> Then I go and edit menu.lst
[01:37] <elyon225> What does it mean when a program crashes when receiving "Signal 11"?
[01:38] <tamacracka> it's all the way in the bottom
[01:38] <Minataku> tamacracka: http://pastebin.com/866644
[01:38] <Minataku> Yeah
[01:38] <tamacracka> copy that
[01:38] <tamacracka> replace with what i have?
[01:39] <Minataku> You'll see what I changed, the line from "title "Other Operating Systems"" and down, put #s before them all
[01:39] <Minataku> tamacracka: Or # out that crap at the bottom yourself
[01:39] <Minataku> elyon225: Signal 11 is SIGSEGV; Segmentation Violation
[01:39] <tamacracka> aha
[01:39] <tamacracka> i see :)
[01:39] <AdamF2> Alumin : As I already have GRUB on here, can I not just make the changes to boot the 'netboot' kernel / initrd for Kubuntu and go from there ? Stab in the dark.
[01:39] <Minataku> The program tried to access memory that didn't belong to it
[01:40] <elyon225> Minataku: So that would be a bug I can't fix myself without changing code, right?
[01:40] <Minataku> It's a fault in the program due (pretty much always) to the code
[01:40] <Minataku> elyon225: Pretty much, that or b?tch at whoever wrote it
[01:40] <elyon225> hmm... wonder how anyone plays this game, then :)
[01:40] <elyon225> Well, I'd hate to b!tch at someone for providing a free game... even if it doesn't work ;)
[01:40] <Minataku> It can also be caused by system implementation details
[01:41] <Minataku> Usually the packages will work everywhere
[01:41] <Minataku> Sometimes though they'll fail for some reason or another
[01:41] <elyon225> I got this from getdeb.com
[01:41] <tamacracka> Mina... shouldn't i do the "other operating systems" title as well?
[01:41] <tamacracka> the #
[01:41] <Minataku> tamacracka: Didn't I # those lines too?
[01:41] <slyfox> Is there anyone here that knows somehting about AUTOFS ? Please.
[01:41] <Minataku> Well, if I didn't then you do it
[01:41] <Minataku> XD
[01:41] <rickympl> anyone know how to have the kde menu sorted alphabetically, right now i have a menu, with no type of sort, a great mess
[01:41] <moparisthebest> ok, Im on the kubuntu live cd now, how can I mount my harddrive to allow write access?
[01:42] <tamacracka> lol
[01:42] <tamacracka> yes you did
[01:42] <moparisthebest> I figured out how to mount it but its not writeable
[01:42] <Minataku> moparisthebest: Unmount it first
[01:42] <moparisthebest> done
[01:42] <tamacracka> brb gonna restart my machine :P
[01:42] <elyon225> rickympl: You can change the order of all the menu items by Right-Clicking on the menu, and selecting "Menu Editor"
[01:42] <Minataku> tamacracka: Not necessary
[01:42] <tamacracka> i just wanna see :)
[01:42] <Minataku> lol
[01:42] <Minataku> Okay
[01:43] <tamacracka> <- perfectionist
[01:43] <moparisthebest> now what Minataku? :)
[01:43] <Minataku> WAIT
[01:43] <tamacracka> ok
[01:43] <Minataku> tamacracka:
[01:43] <tamacracka> yeah?
[01:43] <Minataku> In fstab
[01:43] <tamacracka> lol
[01:43] <jamrs> question
[01:43] <jamrs> when does logrotate do its thing
[01:43] <jamrs> i have specified how often in the logrotate.conf file
[01:43] <Minataku> tamacracka: Add: "/dev/hda1 /media/hda1 auto auto 0 0" at the end
[01:43] <tamacracka> hda1 is still not listed on fstab
[01:43] <jamrs> but i am wondering if its like, every friday at midnight or on thursday at 3pm
[01:44] <tamacracka> oh ok <,<
[01:44] <elyon225> rickympl: Unfortunately I don't see any possible way to alphabetize the menu automatically.
[01:44] <Minataku> tamacracka: That will (should) automagically mount it on boot
[01:44] <rickympl> elyon225, so i have to manually change the order of the menu?
[01:44] <elyon225> rickympl: Nothing like the Windows handy "Sort by Name" option.
[01:44] <Minataku> Change that first auto to ext3 if you like, it's not necessary though
[01:44] <rickympl> elyon225, dats just weird, it should b available
[01:45] <elyon225> rickympl: I completely agree... and it may, but if it does, it isn't in the logical location.
[01:45] <Minataku> moparisthebest: Tell me the device name, where it's supposed to be mounted and what filesystem it is
[01:45] <elyon225> rickympl: We should write the KDE team and ask what the heck is wrong with them ;)
[01:45] <dope> how do i make an executable shell script file that'll open a terminal
[01:45] <rickympl> elyon225, know where the menu info or config file is, with all the data for the menu?
[01:45] <elyon225> rickympl: No idea... sorry.
[01:45] <tamacracka>  /dev/hda1       /media/hda1                      ext3 auto  0       0
[01:45] <tamacracka> ^ like that
[01:45] <Minataku> Exactly like that
[01:46] <moparisthebest> Minataku: ext3, /dev/sdb1 /home/ubuntu/hd
[01:46] <tamacracka> or add ext3, auto ?
[01:46] <tamacracka> add comma?
[01:46] <Minataku> tamacracka: You've got it perfect
[01:46] <tamacracka> ok
[01:46] <moparisthebest> Minataku: before I ran 'sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /home/ubuntu/hd'
[01:46] <rickympl> elyon225, thx
[01:46] <moparisthebest> but it wouldnt let me write to it
[01:46] <rickympl> dats a bummer
[01:46] <Minataku> moparisthebest: add -o rw
[01:46] <tamacracka> ok
[01:46] <tamacracka> brb
[01:47] <FunnyMan3595> Is there a KDE equivalent to gnome-open?  (Opens a file with the default program, e.g. evince for pdfs)
[01:47] <genii> See you all later :)
[01:47] <elyon225> rickympl: You may want to look in ~/.kde/share/config, though... Chances are you'll find that config file there.
[01:47] <Minataku> moparisthebest: If that fails then... something... I dunno XD
[01:48] <moparisthebest> it still wont let me write to it Minataku :/
[01:48] <moparisthebest> where do I add the -o?
[01:48] <moparisthebest> sudo mount -t ext3 -o rw /dev/sdb1 /home/ubuntu/hd
[01:48] <moparisthebest> thats what I have so far
[01:48] <Minataku> Yeah
[01:48] <Minataku> That should do it
[01:48] <Minataku> If not, what's the error?
[01:49] <moparisthebest> it wont let me write to it
[01:49] <moparisthebest> with kate
[01:49] <rickympl> elyon225, doesnt look like it
[01:49] <Minataku> It's probably a permission issue
[01:49] <elyon225> rickympl: Eh... sorry then.
[01:49] <elyon225> Was worth a shot :)
[01:51] <rickympl> elyon225, im thinking ~/.config/menus maybe
[01:51] <Minataku> I think I'm out of help for the night >.<
[01:51] <Minataku> lol
[01:53] <flake> hola
[01:54] <faked_> any time I try to play an embedded audio file on firefox, MPlayer won't play it. It says "PLaying URL *suchandsuch*", then "BUffering", then "Stopped"
[01:54] <faked_> but it never plays, anyone know what Ic an do?
[01:54] <dataman> hello
[01:55] <dataman> welcome dataman new user of ubuntu
[01:55] <Kr4t05> I can't get Amarok to play mp3... Even though I have libxine-extracodecs installed, along with a few other restricted codecs.
[01:55] <dataman> i m sorry i don t know i m a beginner
[01:55] <Kr4t05> dataman: I wasn't asking you directly. :)
[01:55] <dataman> can i read wmv with kbuntu?
[01:55] <dataman> lol ok
[01:56] <Kr4t05> !restricted | dataman
[01:56] <ubotu> dataman: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:56] <dataman> thank you i will check now
[01:56] <sleepy745> welcome dataman!
[01:56] <faked_> any time I try to play an embedded audio file on firefox, MPlayer won't play it. It says "PLaying URL *suchandsuch*", then "BUffering", then "Stopped"
[01:56] <mervteck> hey guys
[01:56] <faked_> but it never plays, anyone know what I can do?
[01:56] <Rob-West> does anyone have a video card they dont need Nvidia AGP prefered
[01:57] <dataman> do you use kaffeine for media player?
[01:57] <faked_> me? No, MPlayer
[01:57] <manchicken> Mmm... kaffeine...
[01:57] <Kr4t05> dataman: For movies, yes
[01:57] <dataman> what is the best in your mind?
[01:57] <dataman> ok
[01:57] <manchicken> I prefer Kaffeine to mplayer, but many folks seem to disagree with me.
[01:57] <mervteck> anyone use nvidia drivers for kubuntu ?
[01:58] <dataman> can i run my kbuntu as a server for my other laptop?
[01:58] <yuriy> hmm the smart playlists in amarok just stopped working...
[01:58] <Kr4t05> dataman: If you want to play some strangly encoded things, you should install VLC
[01:58] <manchicken> dataman: I have a kubuntu server and a kubuntu laptop.
[01:58] <mervteck> yeahh vlc is the best
[01:58] <dataman> sure
[01:58] <dataman> VLC is the best on windows too
[01:58] <dataman> hmm
[01:58] <dataman> but i dont  know how install a package for the moment
[01:58] <dataman> but i will find
[01:58] <Kr4t05> dataman: Just go to the menu and find Adept.
[01:59] <dataman> really i m a little lost i m from windows communauty
[01:59] <dataman> adept
[01:59] <manchicken> I'm sorry to hear that.
[01:59] <Kr4t05> That will show you a list of all the packages you can install.
[01:59] <faked_> dataman I was once(and kinda still am) in your shoes, trust me it takes a while to get used to >_>
[01:59] <dataman> lol yeah it s a package manager
[01:59] <dataman> lol
[01:59] <bobleny> Can someone help me? Almost everytime I try to turn of my computer it hangs. I go to the menu, tell it to shut off, and then the screen goes black and thats it. It just sits there... What should I do?
[02:00] <sleepy745> I have that problem too sometimes
[02:01] <bobleny> Well, it is like a religion for my computer....
[02:01] <bobleny> I have no problem with my windows
[02:01] <dataman> in your mind.... i need to install since the begining for a new version of ubuntu or i can update mine now?
[02:01] <Minataku> bobleny: Well, does Linux complain about unclean filesystems when you reboot?
[02:01] <dataman> i m on kbuntu 6.06 for the moment
[02:01] <easytiger> what happened to the fstab... why are all my devices replaced with UID=2347623576205762 crap
[02:01] <bobleny> IDK.... When will it say this?
[02:01] <easytiger> thats not very user friendly
[02:01] <Minataku> bobleny: Don't worry
[02:02] <Minataku> You'd know if it was fscking every time
[02:02] <Minataku> It's not a short process
[02:02] <sparr> what version of kde is on the kubuntu edgy cd?
[02:02] <Minataku> bobleny: Your computer just isn't getting the proper shutdown command to the PSU, I think
[02:02] <bobleny> How do I check?
[02:02] <Minataku> Is there a load of clicking and ticking before it goes dark?
[02:03] <Minataku> Or shortly after?
[02:03] <manchicken> Minataku: bobleny and I hit this issue a while ago, and he's not running proprietary drivers, no kern.log info, no messages log info.  Complete mystery.
[02:03] <dataman> i don t know
[02:03] <bobleny> none that I know of
[02:03] <faked_> any time I try to play an embedded audio file on firefox, MPlayer won't play it. It says "PLaying URL *suchandsuch*", then "BUffering", then "Stopped"
[02:03] <Minataku> manchicken: Hm
[02:03] <faked_> can anyone help?
[02:03] <manchicken> sparr: I believe it's 3.5.2.  Not sure.
[02:04] <Minataku> Well, if Linux isn't complaining that his root filesystem is insanely broken then Linux _IS_ shutting down
[02:04] <Minataku> In which case then everything but the ACPI command to power off is working properly and there's no serious issue
[02:05] <bobleny> ?
[02:05] <manchicken> Could be.
[02:05] <Minataku> bobleny: fsck, or filesystem check is usually run if the filesystem isn't unmounted cleanly
[02:05] <manchicken> Could be a non-standard, proprietary BIOS thingy.
[02:05] <Minataku> Unmounting cleanly is part of shutdown
[02:06] <bobleny> yeah, I get that when I have to hold the power button to turn it off.
[02:06] <Minataku> If your computer isn't fscking the root fs every time you boot back into Linux (you'd know when it does this, it takes a couple minutes) then you're fine
[02:06] <Minataku> bobleny: Unfortunately beyond filing a bug against your BIOS, that's what you have to do
[02:07] <bobleny> Huh?
[02:07] <snowrichard> got a 403 error for libc6.  I'll try updating my package list
[02:07] <Minataku> For some reason ACPI isn't getting/honoring the command to power down
[02:07] <Kr4t05> Does anyone else have the problem where Amarok keeps asking to isntall MP3 support, even though you have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[02:07] <Minataku> Linux is properly shutting down, but something is not getting the power down command to ACPI
[02:07] <Minataku> In short, there's not really anything you can do
[02:08] <snowrichard> its ok now, upgrading libc6
[02:08] <bobleny> Well, can I tell the acp thingy manually, or use a diffrent script to shut the computer down?
[02:09] <Minataku> bobleny: Negative, the power down command is the last thing done in shutdown and the kernel does it
[02:09] <snowrichard> once its halted you can use the power switch
[02:10] <bxnp> hi i am back
[02:10] <snowrichard> hi bxnp
[02:10] <bobleny> There has got to be a reason for it doing this? I find it difficulte to belive that this is happening at random.
[02:11] <bxnp> anyway could somebody tell me what non-contigious inodes are
[02:11] <bxnp> i see that somethimes when i boot
[02:11] <bobleny> Is there a way to look for a patern of some sort that is causeing the problem?
[02:11] <Minataku> bobleny: Actually, it's completely possible for it to happen at random in this case
[02:11] <bobleny> How so?
[02:11] <Minataku> It's just something weird between the kernel and ACPI
[02:12] <Minataku> bxnp: Do you use shutdown or power switch?
[02:12] <bxnp> well i use the shutdown menu in kde
[02:12] <Minataku> bxnp: Well, non-contiguious inodes indicates a fault in the filesystem
[02:12] <bobleny> kmenu -> Log Out... -> Turn Off Computer
[02:12] <bxnp> but somethimes in the beginning some program let my kubuntu crash and then i use the power button Minataku
[02:13] <Minataku> bxnp: There ya go
[02:13] <bxnp> oke Minataku how can i solve this
[02:13] <bxnp> i mean correct this
[02:13] <Minataku> bxnp: Figure out what's crashing and cure it or don't use it anymore
[02:13] <Minataku> lol
[02:13] <bxnp> i already have
[02:13] <bxnp> i dont use that program anymore
[02:13] <bxnp> but still have non contiguous inodes
[02:14] <Minataku> Okay, then the fact that you're seeing complaints about "non-contiguious inodes" means that fsck is running and found them
[02:14] <Minataku> It should have fixed them in the same swipe
[02:14] <bobleny> Why is it doing it more frequentlly though? It wasn't even doing this at first. Now it is almost every time I try to turn the thing off
[02:14] <Minataku> Unless Kubuntu does something stupid
[02:14] <bxnp> but i see everytime the same percentage
[02:14] <Minataku> bobleny: I have no idea, perhaps your BIOS is stupid
[02:14] <bxnp> 6.2 procent
[02:14] <Minataku> bxnp: Doh
[02:14] <bxnp> its not repairing anything
[02:14] <simbios> I bought a dvdrw today, the HD was connected to ide1, I switched it to ide2 and put the dvd unit to ide1... then when booting I got : "unable to read partition table" and many "Drive Seek error" or something like that... so I switched back the HD to ide1 and... got the same error
[02:14] <Minataku> I'm thinking of the wrong thing, sorry
[02:14] <Tonren> KDE LiveJournal client.  Go!
[02:15] <bobleny> Well, It is a compaq...
[02:15] <Minataku> bxnp: It's just informational
[02:15] <Minataku> It's a measure of something-or-other
[02:15] <Minataku> I think it's filesystem fragmentation
[02:15] <bobleny> Is turning my computer off inproperlly all the time going to hurt something?
[02:15] <bxnp> but 6.2 procent of my file system seems a lot
[02:15] <Minataku> But I could be completely wrong on that
[02:16] <bxnp> fragmentation i heard that linux did not fragmentate
[02:16] <Minataku> bobleny: It's shutting down properly
[02:16] <slyfox> Help ! You know how you have Fn keys on your laptop - for brightness control ? My brightness is very low, how do i make it brighter? Fn+Brigtness does not work !
[02:16] <Minataku> bobleny: It's just not turning itself off
[02:16] <Minataku> bobleny: So no, there's no danger in manually turning it off
[02:16] <Minataku> bxnp: All filesystems have fragmentatio
[02:16] <Minataku> n
[02:16] <bobleny> Really, then what is the kubuntu screen thingy for?
[02:17] <Minataku> It's just not as big a problem in Linux like it is in Windows
[02:17] <simbios> I shuted down the PC with the hibernate function...
[02:17] <Minataku> bobleny: It's SUPPOSED to end in turning off
[02:17] <bxnp> oke but if so there should be a program to defragment the hd
[02:17] <Minataku> But on some systems it fails
[02:17] <Minataku> !defrag
[02:17] <dataman> arg i can t read wmv video
[02:17] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[02:17] <mervteck> hey guys i need help
[02:17] <Minataku> Bullplop
[02:17] <bxnp> but if you look for it you cant find a program
[02:17] <bobleny> Ok.. As long as my box to go boomb!
[02:17] <bobleny> I go turn it off and see what happens... lol
[02:18] <Minataku> bobleny: Nah, if it's not fscking the root fs every time you boot into Linux it shutdown properly
[02:18] <mervteck> im running this tutorial on how to install nvidia drivers properly but when i try to save the modified disabled modules file i get this
[02:18] <mervteck> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common.
[02:18] <mervteck> Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[02:18] <dataman> can t find wmvdmod.dll
[02:18] <Minataku> Which means that it just didn't turn off
[02:18] <bxnp> brb
[02:18] <Tonren> No one knows of a good LJ client for KDE?
[02:18] <Minataku> mervteck: You have to be root to do things in /etc
[02:19] <bobleny> Well. what is fscking though, is that the white text that shows up before the Kubuntu splash screen?
[02:19] <Minataku> bobleny: fsck is FileSystem ChecK
[02:19] <mervteck> well they wont launch properly through with konsole sudo command
[02:19] <mervteck> it errors out
[02:19] <bobleny> Ok, I will look for some sort of checking...
[02:19] <Minataku> If it doesn't stop at boot and make a lot of HDD activity and output stuff about the HDD then it's not doing it
[02:20] <Minataku> mervteck: Unfortunately I don't know how to do that so I can't help you with it
[02:23] <mervteck> i got it to work nvm brb gotta go console only
[02:28] <bobleny> Well, I didnt see any fck thingy...
[02:29] <crazy_bus> How do you load a subtitle file in Kaffeine?
[02:32] <moparisthebest> can't qtparted be used to format partitions?
[02:32] <Alarm> hello in the kde-look.org , section "Themes" those themes listed are only for the login screen or also after loging into kde ?
[02:32] <moparisthebest> I thought that was the purpose of it
[02:34] <moparisthebest> how do I format a new harddrive with ext3?
[02:34] <moparisthebest> qtparted appears to do it, but actually does nothing
[02:34] <Minataku> moparisthebest: Device name?
[02:34] <Alarm> actually what i am searching is to change the the kde look , not just the splash screen (with a theme, not beryl)
[02:34] <moparisthebest> /dev/sda
[02:35] <Minataku> sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sda
[02:35] <Minataku> Though are you sure you don't want to partition it first?
[02:35] <moparisthebest> I would rather have 1 big partition
[02:35] <moparisthebest> is that what that command does?
[02:36] <Minataku> You CAN make a filesystem on the raw device but it's best to make a partition table with the one large partiton
[02:36] <Minataku> *partition
[02:36] <moparisthebest> ok, how would I do that then?
[02:36] <surgy> hello
[02:36] <Minataku> moparisthebest: Use qtparted and make said single large partition
[02:36] <moparisthebest> ok, done
[02:36] <Minataku> After that, it'll probably be /dev/sda1
[02:37] <moparisthebest> and then run: sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sda1
[02:37] <moparisthebest> ?
[02:37] <Minataku> Indeed
[02:38] <moparisthebest> Minataku, Could not stat /dev/sda1 --- No such file or directory
[02:38] <moparisthebest> The device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?
[02:38] <moparisthebest> in qtparted it is showing up as /dev/sda-1
[02:39] <surgy> what is the bash command for creating a file?
[02:39] <Minataku> moparisthebest: Well, write the partition table if you haven't already and close out qtparted
[02:39] <elyon225> Hey, does anyone here run Rigs of Rails in Kubuntu?  Mine is crashing, just looking for a little help.
[02:40] <surgy> elyon225: what is rigs of rails? got a link?
[02:40] <moparisthebest> it still says the same thing Minataku
[02:40] <Minataku> moparisthebest: Look in /dev, "ls /dev/sda*"
[02:40] <Minataku> Don't paste it here
[02:40] <elyon225> surgy: http://rigsofrails.blogspot.com
[02:41] <elyon225> oops
[02:41] <surgy> yea that one is broken
[02:41] <elyon225> surgy: http://rigsofrods.blogspot.com
[02:41] <elyon225> It's Rigs of Rods, not rails... I was thinking Ruby on Rails ;)
[02:41] <moparisthebest> Minataku, all that shows up is '/dev/sda'
[02:41] <Minataku> moparisthebest: Okay, it needs to be updated, is this an external drive?
[02:41] <surgy> can someone tell me how to create a file from the term?
[02:41] <moparisthebest> no Minataku
[02:42] <moparisthebest> SATA
[02:42] <moparisthebest> Minataku, qtparted allowed me to format it as well, but when you close it and reopen it its back to normal
[02:42] <mervteck> WOOT WOOT I GOT MY DRIVERS TO WORK!
[02:42] <Minataku> moparisthebest: Aaargh... uh... crap...
[02:42] <icex> hello
[02:42] <Minataku> moparisthebest: Reboot, that's all I can think of
[02:42] <moparisthebest> ok
[02:43] <moparisthebest> brb
[02:43] <mervteck> one small step for me, one giant leep from gettting away from being noob
[02:43] <Minataku> surgy: A text file or something?
[02:43] <Minataku> There's no "New File" from the shell
[02:44] <surgy> minataku: savage is missing a file called "scripts.log" i thought i could just add it and it whould work
[02:44] <Minataku> Oh
[02:45] <surgy> minataku: whould it be "touch scripts.log" ?
[02:45] <Minataku> Well, I guess you could test that by typing "cat /dev/null > scripts.log"
[02:45] <dokter-eko> ada yg dari Indonesia
[02:45] <surgy> minataku: what whould that do?
[02:45] <Minataku> Which puts nothing into a file named "scripts.log"
[02:45] <dokter-eko> joined the room
[02:45] <Minataku> Reading /dev/null returns an immediate EOF (End Of File)
[02:46] <Minataku> That commands reads /dev/null and puts the contents into the file "scripts.log"
[02:46] <Minataku> So that command effectively creates a 0 byte file named "scripts.log"
[02:46] <surgy> minataku: ok but i should be in the savage directory when doing this right?
[02:46] <Minataku> surgy: Yes, whereever it expects this file to be
[02:47] <surgy> ok ill try it thnx
[02:47] <dataman> i m sorry
[02:47] <surgy> minataku: that command should be sudo? so that savage has permision to write to it?
[02:47] <MotorCityMadMan> !kweather
[02:47] <dataman> any one can helpp me abtou video
[02:48] <ubotu> kweather: weather display applet for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1213 kB, installed size 2268 kB
[02:48] <dataman> i m trying commant sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[02:48] <dataman> and he can t find
[02:49] <andre> Hey there everyone
[02:49] <crazy_bus> My brother really wants to play msn messenger games with me.  Is there any online card games that work cross platform?
[02:50] <andre> Anyone here have any experience with vsftpd?
[02:50] <MotorCityMadMan> kweather 2.1.0 /kde 3.5.5 unknown station error. anybody know of a fix ?
[02:52] <m1291> mplayer plugin for firefox, how to do?
[02:52] <Minataku> Sorry, I can't help with any of those
[02:52] <surgy> it still wont work, same message
[02:52] <surgy> "cannot load scripts.log"
[02:53] <Minataku> I don't use MSN, never used vsftpd, never used kweather, don't use Firefox mplayer plugin
[02:53] <m1291> mplayer plugin for firefox, how to do?
[02:53] <Minataku> surgy: I can't help any further, it's obviously missing some file that should have come with it or been generated somehow
[02:53] <Minataku> surgy: Try reading the website/manual pages/etc
[02:54] <m1291> mplayer plugin for firefox, how to do?
[02:54] <Minataku> m1291: Please don't ask so often
[02:54] <surgy> minataku: the website says to download it again, i have done this three times :( but thanks for the assistance i will look more
[02:54] <Minataku> I'm the only one here and I don't know how to help you with it
[02:54] <Minataku> surgy: Sorry :(
[02:55] <surgy> minataku: np
[02:55] <tapas> m1291: read doc, try yourself. if problem -> ask :)
[02:55] <surgy> lol
[02:56] <surgy> minataku: if i kick you like i do the pop machines at the store will you work again?
[02:56] <andre> stupid vsftpd,  I wish there was a good ftp daemon with a decent gui
[02:56] <moparisthebest> it worked Minataku
[02:56] <Minataku> moparisthebest: Awesome
[02:56] <moparisthebest> now I need to know how to mount it on boot :P
[02:56] <Minataku> Heh
[02:56] <Minataku> That's easy
[02:57] <m1291> have installed mplayer but it don't work in firefox
[02:57] <Minataku> Where does it need to go?
[02:57] <Minataku> m1291: I use an extension called "MediaPlayerConnectivity"
[02:57] <moparisthebest> nvm, figured it out myself Minataku
[02:57] <moparisthebest> thanks for all the help though
[02:57] <Minataku> moparisthebest: Fair enough and no problem
[02:58] <mervteck> can anyone tell me how to install UT2k4 on linux? i got the cd in
[02:58] <moparisthebest> sick Rob-West
[02:58] <moparisthebest> :P
[02:58] <mervteck> rob your disowned >.<
[02:58] <Minataku> mervteck: You need WINE or rather more likely, Cedega if WINE fails
[02:58] <Rob-West> im sorry
[02:58] <dawn> rob-west suffers from the billy-virii
[02:58] <Minataku> !wine
[02:58] <Rob-West> i tried linux
[02:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:58] <Rob-West> i like it
[02:58] <Minataku> !cedega
[02:58] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[02:58] <mervteck> u know that theres a linux version of ut2k4 right?
[02:59] <Minataku> Or just use that
[02:59] <Minataku> lol
[02:59] <mervteck> i dunno hwo to install it though lol
[02:59] <mervteck> i put the install disc in....
[02:59] <mervteck> now what XD
[02:59] <Minataku> mervteck: Sorry, I'm not a PC gamer
[02:59] <Minataku> mervteck: Mount it, find the binary, run it
[02:59] <Minataku> Kubuntu probably already mounted it for you
[03:00] <mervteck> autorun.inf? or linux-installer.sh
[03:00] <Minataku> Just find the Linux binary which will probably say "install" somewhere in it
[03:00] <Minataku> That second one
[03:00] <Minataku> linux-installer.sh
[03:00] <mervteck> k
[03:00] <Minataku> Which is a shell script
[03:00] <dawn> is there any way to increase sound ouotput on kubuntu?
[03:00] <dawn> *output
[03:00] <mervteck> i click on it and dont do nothin
[03:01] <Minataku> mervteck: Run it in a terminal
[03:01] <mervteck> how so
[03:01] <Minataku> dawn: Turn up the volume on the mixer control
[03:01] <Minataku> mervteck: cd to the directory that it's in then type ./linux-installer.sh
[03:01] <mervteck> kk
[03:02] <ljlolel> in kde, isn't there a simple wizard so that it sets up the look and feel of kde so that it's exactly like a standard kde or Windows or Mac ?
[03:03] <dawn> I am running amarok at 100% but it low. I looked under system settings and nothing is shown there. tried the equalizer in amarok, but that decreased the volume
[03:03] <Minataku> ljlolel: There is, it usually runs at first ever login
[03:03] <Minataku> Hm
[03:03] <Minataku> !nmixer
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nmixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <mervteck> sudo: unable to execute ./linux-installer.sh: Permission denied
[03:03] <Minataku> !alsamixer
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <ljlolel> Minataku: i remember that... how do I get it?
[03:03] <Minataku> ljlolel: Beats me
[03:03] <ljlolel> Minataku: what do i run to run that again?
[03:03] <Minataku> ljlolel: Try running "alsamixer" from a terminal
[03:04] <Minataku> mervteck: Aaargh... try copying it to your home directory and running it or something
[03:04] <Minataku> If that fails "chmod 770 linux-installer.sh" first
[03:04] <ljlolel> Minataku: why would alsamixer change anything but sound settings?
[03:05] <dope> is 1.1MB/s from 1 pc to another on the same network slow?
[03:05] <dope> 10/100
[03:05] <sleepy745> How do I view .rtf files?
[03:06] <Minataku> dope: That's average
[03:06] <Minataku> It's working fine, basically
[03:06] <Minataku> sleepy745: I think "ted" can
[03:06] <Minataku> !ted
[03:07] <ubotu> ted: graphical RTF (Rich Text Format) editor, stable lesstif version. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.17-1 (edgy), package size 654 kB, installed size 1732 kB
[03:07] <Minataku> Indeed it can
[03:07] <Minataku> There ya go, sleepy745
[03:07] <sleepy745> Thanks!
[03:08] <Minataku> sleepy745: np
[03:10] <sleepy745> what files can Linux reads easiest
[03:11] <Theory> ones which use little words
[03:11] <Jucato> O.o
[03:11] <Minataku> sleepy745: Free formats
[03:11] <Jucato> Plain text
[03:11] <Minataku> Nothing proprietary like Word Documents or bullshot like that
[03:12] <m1291> How to uninstall mplayer?
[03:12] <Jucato> m1291: how did you install it?
[03:12] <Minataku> Jucato: Good, you're here... you take over
[03:12] <Jucato> ?
[03:12] <Minataku> I've been helping for the past couple hours alone XD
[03:12] <Jucato> I'm not going to be spending too  much time in here today.... need to do a lot of stuff
[03:12] <Minataku> >:P
[03:14] <m1291> sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplay
[03:15] <matt0507> hi all, anyone know of any program to play .flv files on kubuntu?
[03:15] <m1291> jucato: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplay
[03:15] <Minataku> matt0507: mplayer will
[03:15] <matt0507> ty
[03:16] <Jucato> m1291: then "sudo apt-get remove mozilla-mplayer" to remove it
[03:16] <captian_eddie> Has anyone ever had the joy of setting up a modem.  I'd like to be able to fax.
[03:16] <sleepy745> can kate open txt files?
[03:17] <Jucato> sleepy745: of course :)
[03:17] <sleepy745> ok
[03:17] <m1291> jucato: I have tried but it won't dissapear from the menu
[03:17] <Jucato> txt files == plain text files
[03:17] <Jucato> m1291: hm... try "sudo apt-get remove mplayer"
[03:17] <Theory> opendocument files are quite nice too :-)
[03:18] <Jucato> bleh...
[03:18] <xsacha> !flash9
[03:18] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[03:18] <xsacha> hmm backports, that's why
[03:18] <matt0507> Minataku:  i tried using mplayer to play the flv player but it doesnt work.
[03:19] <m1291> det funkade
[03:19] <Jucato> flv = Flash Video
[03:19] <Peruna> hello
[03:19] <captian_eddie> mplayer in the respiratory has problems.  Too many good files had chirps and tweets.  It's one package I recommend compiling.
[03:19] <Minataku> matt0507: Crap, I guess Gentoo just provides the codecs better
[03:19] <Peruna> For some reason I'm having 3 Adept running, and can't kill them using Process Tree
[03:19] <Minataku> Sorry, matt0507
[03:20] <Peruna> is there any other way ?
[03:20] <Peruna> *ProcessTable
[03:20] <Jucato> Minataku: you mean mplayer in Gentoo can play Flash Videos without Flash?
[03:20] <captian_eddie> killall
[03:20] <matt0507> !flash
[03:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:20] <Minataku> Jucato: Yeah
[03:20] <Jucato> Minataku: hm... interesting
[03:20] <Minataku> I've got a couple from... uh... a youtube clone that I've played in mplayer
[03:21] <Jucato> and it downloads as .flv?
[03:21] <Minataku> Yep
[03:21] <Peruna> captian_eddie: by killall you mean reboot ?
[03:21] <Jucato> Peruna: 3 Adepts? just plain "adept"?
[03:21] <Minataku> 11213.flv: Macromedia Flash Video
[03:21] <Jucato> Peruna: what are the processs names?
[03:21] <Peruna> adept manager
[03:21] <Minataku> Pure, total Macromedia Flash Video
[03:21] <Peruna> Jucato: Adept_manager
[03:22] <Jucato> Peruna: in Konsole, type "sudo killall adept_manager"
[03:22] <Peruna> Jucato: adept-manager: no process killed
[03:22] <Jucato> Peruna: adept_manager, not adept-manager
[03:23] <Jucato> notice the underscore?
[03:23] <Minataku> Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg]  FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
[03:23] <Minataku> Selected video codec: [ffflv]  vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg Flash video)
[03:23] <sleepy745> ONe more question, how do I open a saved Web archive file?
[03:23] <Jucato> Minataku: yes yes. I'm Googling it now
[03:23] <Peruna> Jucato: oh yeah :D
[03:23] <Minataku> There's the technical details
[03:23] <Peruna> Jucato:  thnx alot
[03:23] <Minataku> lol
[03:23] <Jucato> sleepy745: Konqueror?
[03:23] <Jucato> sleepy745: just click (or double click) on the .war file
[03:24] <Minataku> Jucato: FLV is just some weirdo format
[03:24] <Jucato> Minataku: ah I see.
[03:24] <Jucato> http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2006-March/058757.html
[03:24] <Minataku> Youtube and everyone else runs it through a player app
[03:25] <GTP> I have a boot question
[03:27] <GTP> It looks like my system is failing to start KDE and dumps me back in the login screen.
[03:27] <Minataku> GTP: That's way past boot by that point
[03:27] <GTP> If I start using the 'failsafe' boot in grub, I can startx from the prompt and start KDE fine.
[03:28] <GTP> true...
[03:28] <Minataku> As for the problem, there's something X11 doesn't like
[03:28] <Minataku> Look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what it b?tched about
[03:29] <GTP> I looked at xorg.conf, and it still has 'nv' for my display driver.
[03:29] <Minataku> Is that bad?
[03:29] <GTP> It worked last week.
[03:31] <andre> hey guys
[03:32] <Minataku> GTP: Check that log file
[03:32] <GTP> What do I check?
[03:32] <Minataku> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:33] <mikey_> Would someone like to help me figure out what i need to install OpenGL 2.1 libraries?
[03:33] <ssmasud> xtknight......i am receiving the same error....do i have to uncomment my repositeries??
[03:34] <andre> Anyone here have any experience using VSFTPD?
[03:34] <soulrider> hi
[03:35] <ssmasud> any NS2 experts over here??....i have to install NS2 for which I need gcc....i can see gcc-4.0-base but it doesnt work....what to do??
[03:36] <Jucato> ssmasud: are you compiling?
[03:37] <Jucato> mikey_: try installing xorg-dev
[03:38] <mikey_> ok will try that jucato
[03:38] <Minataku> I'm out of help for the night, sorry >.<
[03:38] <Jucato> Minataku: bye otaku
[03:39] <Minataku> lol
[03:39] <mervteck> minataku!
[03:39] <Jucato> oyasumi nasai
[03:40] <mervteck> i come bearing pot!
[03:40] <Minataku> I don't do drugs
[03:40] <Minataku> lol
[03:40] <mervteck> lol neither do i i just like pot jokes XD
[03:40] <Minataku> X3
[03:40] <slyfox> Can someone please tell me how to autostart autofs ?
[03:42] <mervteck> holy shit im watching it takes a theif, and the guy thats house got broken in to is fuckin crazy he has 2 50 cal snipers 2 revolvers 2 ak47's glocks and omg TONS on guns
[03:42] <mervteck> even uzi's
[03:42] <Minataku> Sweet
[03:42] <Minataku> I wish I had a collection like that
[03:43] <Jucato> !language
[03:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:43] <sparr> where does the writable portion of the kubuntu livecd unionfs live?
[03:43] <mervteck> me too lol i jsut have my uber 22 bolt with a scope
[03:43] <Jucato> sparr: what do you mean?
[03:43] <sparr> Jucato: what i say, usually.  you?
[03:44] <mervteck> hey minataku can i talk to u in pm?
[03:44] <Jucato> sparr: I meant your question
[03:44] <sparr> Jucato: when i download a file, where does the file go?
[03:44] <Minataku> mervteck: Sure, if you wish
[03:44] <sparr> Jucato: obviously not onto the CDROM
[03:45] <Jucato> sparr: physically, it goes to the RAM. but where in the filesystem? depends on where/how you downloaded it
[03:45] <sparr> in RAM?
[03:45] <sparr> how can i check how much the fs is using in RAM?
[03:45] <mervteck> io ur not registered are u
[03:45] <driz> whats the easiest way to make a file Server?
[03:45] <Jucato> sparr: yes. Live CD's use the RAM as storage while running
[03:45] <Minataku> mervteck: Oh, I don't think I use that mode
[03:45] <Minataku> Or is it default
[03:46] <Minataku> I'll shut it off
[03:46] <mervteck> oii
[03:46] <galfrid> hello everyone
[03:46] <mervteck> hey
[03:46] <Jucato> sparr: not really sure how you can check. the Live CD doesn't write anything to the hard drives unless you explicitly do so
[03:46] <galfrid> anyone want to help me with a few problems?
[03:47] <galfrid> :D
[03:47] <Minataku> Uh... damn, what's that stupid mode flag
[03:47] <mikey_> Thank you Jucato for the help the opengl implemtation files are in
[03:47] <Jucato> Minataku: what mode flag?
[03:47] <Minataku> Jucato: The one that makes it so unregistered people can't talk to you in PM
[03:47] <Jucato> mikey_: np
[03:48] <mikey_> I did not want to use the schools computers, to which you have to use Visual Basic .
[03:48] <Jucato> hm...
[03:48] <mads> hi
[03:48] <mads> how do you mount an iso file?
[03:48] <mikey_> *To make images and what not
[03:48] <Minataku> mervteck: What was it you wanted to talk to me about, BTW?
[03:49] <Minataku> In the meantime while I try to figure out Freenode's stupid usermodes
[03:49] <mads> mount -isosomething <location> <mountpoint>
[03:49] <Jucato> !iso | mads
[03:49] <ubotu> mads: To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[03:49] <Jucato> Minataku: hold on a sec
[03:49] <Jucato> Minataku: you want unregistered users to be able to PM you?
[03:49] <mads> thanks
[03:50] <Minataku> Jucato: Indeed
[03:50] <matt0507> i still cant figure out how to make mplayer play my flv file >,< i have flash installed and all that
[03:50] <mervteck> minitaku this damn thing wont install >.<
[03:50] <mervteck> sudo: unable to execute ./linux-installer.sh: Permission denied
[03:50] <Minataku> mervteck: Okay, stupidity disabled, PM away
[03:50] <galfrid> lol
[03:50] <Minataku> mervteck: As for that, no clue, sorry
[03:51] <Minataku> Try their website maybe?
[03:51] <Minataku> Or look for a readme
[03:51] <Minataku> lol
[03:51] <Jucato> matt0507: I think the mplayer that is packaged in edgy wasn't compiled to enable playing .flv
[03:51] <Jucato> mervteck: what are you trying to install and where?
[03:51] <Minataku> Codecs are external I believe
[03:51] <ForgeAus> wow VLC rox
[03:51] <galfrid> hey, does it matter where you install things?
[03:51] <ForgeAus> does flashvideo too not just wmv!
[03:51] <Jucato> Minataku: not mplayer
[03:52] <ForgeAus> pity its not in the "free" repositories tho
[03:52] <Jucato> Minataku: I mean, mplayer doesn't use much external codecs
[03:52] <Minataku> Ah
[03:52] <Jucato> ForgeAus: vlc? it's in universe
[03:52] <ForgeAus> is it? oh ok
[03:52] <Jucato> Minataku: didn't you read the link about mplayer I gave above?
[03:52] <Jucato> !info vlc | ForgeAus
[03:52] <matt0507> Jucato: do you know any package/install files that will play on kubuntu?
[03:52] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[03:53] <Minataku> Jucato: Actually, I didn't, sorry >.<
[03:53] <Jucato> hmph...
[03:53] <galfrid> hey, how do I get VLC? I've used it for windows, but I didn't know I could get it for Kubuntu
[03:53] <elyon225> Is there any way to run Mac software in Linux?
[03:53] <Jucato> Minataku: "mplayer -demuxer lavf works here. You need to have latest CVS with libavformat compiled in though.
[03:53] <Minataku> Sheepshaver, minivmac, BasiliskII
[03:53] <Minataku> Jucato: Ah
[03:53] <Jucato> galfrid: install it through the package manager (apt-get, Adept, etc)
[03:54] <ryy> HI, can some tell me how to log in as the root?
[03:54] <Jucato> !sudo | ryy
[03:54] <ubotu> ryy: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:54] <ForgeAus> hehe vmware
[03:54] <Minataku> ryy: Are you trying to use it irresponsibly like you would Administrator in Windows?
[03:54] <ForgeAus> which particular macOS?
[03:54] <dope> my mute button on the keyboard won't work
[03:54] <anika> How do I password protect a folder?
[03:55] <ryy> No, certain software such as tomcat server expects to be installed by sup user
[03:55] <elyon225> anika: Simply change the permissions so that only you can view it.
[03:55] <ryy> Atleast, thats how do the book explains it.
[03:55] <anika> elyon225: I want to protect it from myself as well
[03:55] <galfrid> how do you change permissions
[03:56] <elyon225> ForgeAus: Well, specifically, I'm wanting to play a VERy old game I played a long time ago.
[03:56] <elyon225> anika: You can't trust yourself not to open it?
[03:56] <elyon225> galfrid: Easiest way is to right-click the file or folder and select "Properties"
[03:56] <Jucato> ryy: you can use the sudo command instead of logging in as root
[03:56] <ryy> thanks.
[03:57] <galfrid> ok, so if I wanted to change the permissions on smb.conf, how do I do that?
[03:57] <galfrid> because it tells me I have to be logged on as root
[03:57] <elyon225> galfrid: Navigate to the folder that contains that file, right-click on it, and choose "Properties"
[03:57] <Jucato> WARNING: don't go about changing permissions on file owned by root
[03:58] <elyon225> galfrid: Ah... then you don't own that file.  May I ask what that file is and why you would want to change it?
[03:58] <elyon225> galfrid: Jucato is very right... be VERY careful when changing files that belong to Root.
[03:58] <matt0507> ok i've just installed VLC player and it played my .flv but only sound came out, no pictures >,<
[03:58] <galfrid> it's the samba config file... I'd like to set up a network between 2 Kubuntu computers, and apparently the gksudo gedit command is not available
[03:59] <Jucato> galfrid: kdesu kate
[03:59] <AdamF2> My thanks to Alumin for the hints, I got Kubuntu to install by hijacking slackware's lilo and booting the netboot image / initrd from the existing partition :P
[03:59] <elyon225> galfrid: You have KDE, right?  Kde doesn't have gedit ;)  Its kdesu kate
[03:59] <Jucato> galfrid: gksudo and gedit are both GNOME commands/programs
[03:59] <galfrid> ahhhh
[03:59] <galfrid> ok
[03:59] <elyon225> oh... Jucatobeat me to it ;)
[03:59] <fyrmedic> How do I get a USB rive to mount automatically?
[03:59] <galfrid> hold on, I'll try it and let you know
[03:59] <anika> elyon225: I can't trust other people to not open it and reveal the contents in there before the right time
[03:59] <Jucato> galfrid: you read those instructions on an Ubuntu wiki page?
[04:00] <dope> i've found that sftp is faster than fish when transfering files
[04:00] <galfrid> I did, but they all told me to use the gedit cmd
[04:00] <elyon225> anika: And these other people have access to your actual account?
[04:00] <Jucato> galfrid: could you show me that page?
[04:00] <galfrid> sadly, I'm still based in windows
[04:00] <galfrid> hold on
[04:00] <anika> elyon225: Yes
[04:00] <elyon225> Jucato: The KDE documentation is basically non-existant and the Ubuntu pages don't specify a different set of instructions... pretty sad
[04:01] <elyon225> anika:  You could always create a new user that they don't know about and change the folder's owner to that new user.
[04:01] <Jucato> elyon225: actually, KDE docs are existant. Kubuntu docs are not so much. the wiki pages are meant to be for all *buntus. that's why I'm asking galfrid
[04:01] <galfrid> euch... I'm only on 128k... this could take a minute
[04:01] <galfrid> ahhh
[04:01] <galfrid> I see
[04:01] <elyon225> Jucato: Yeah, I meant Kubuntu...
[04:01] <Jucato> galfrid: just give me the keywords for that page, I'll search for it
[04:02] <galfrid> oh, ok... I could give you the URL
[04:02] <Jucato> ok. just give me the URL
[04:02] <galfrid> lol
[04:02] <galfrid> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Samba_Server
[04:02] <Jucato> no need to wait for the page to load :)
[04:02] <Jucato> bah
[04:02] <elyon225> ...so could someone tell me what packages I need to download to get embedded videos within Firefox working properly?  I don't want them played externally.
[04:02] <Jucato> something I can't edit after all...
[04:03] <elyon225> galfrid: I was told a while ago that ubuntuguide.org is often very wrong and is not in any way affiliated with the TRUE Ubuntu community :)
[04:03] <galfrid> ooooh, ok
[04:03] <Jucato> that, and it obviously doesn't have Kubuntu instructions :P
[04:04] <Jucato> galfrid: we have our own wiki, just in case you didn't know. http://help.ubuntu.com/community
[04:04] <galfrid> cool- I'm still very new to Kubuntu (using dapper)
[04:04] <Jucato> that's for both Ubuntu and Kubuntu. if you encounter Ubuntu specific instructions only, where there should also be some for Kubuntu, tell me
[04:04] <elyon225> Jucato: Do you know... is the Kubuntu wiki going to be extended much?  There are a LOT of empty pages and the basic depth isn't that great...
[04:05] <Jucato> elyon225: they're reorganizing the whole thing. wiki.ubuntu.com/wiki.kubuntu.org will basically be left for development/specs/etc. help.ubuntu.com/community will be the home of user/community submitted guides/howto's
[04:05] <galfrid> oook... so I used the kdesu kate cmd, and it opened a kate with an empty document
[04:06] <Jucato> galfrid: what was the exact command you entered?
[04:06] <galfrid> kdesu kate /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:06] <elyon225> galfrid: Then that file doesn't actually exist yet.
[04:06] <Jucato> either it doesn't exist yet, or...
[04:06] <elyon225> ...it's empty? ;)
[04:06] <galfrid> well, it does... I can see it in Konquerer, and it can tell me that I need to be root to access it
[04:07] <Jucato> galfrid: if it opened an empty Kate, just try to open it directly from Kate
[04:07] <fyrmedic> How do I mount a usb drive? automatically?
[04:07] <galfrid> and I know it has info in it, because I can read it
[04:07] <Jucato> !fuse | Bxnp
[04:07] <ubotu> Bxnp: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:07] <galfrid> I just can't save any changes without root permission
[04:08] <Jucato> galfrid: when kate is run with kdesu, you are running Kate as root
[04:08] <matt0507> is anyone out there able to play .flv player on kubuntu? i need help!
[04:08] <galfrid> oook
[04:08] <elyon225> ...so could someone tell me what packages I need to download to get embedded videos within Firefox working properly?  I don't want them played externally.
[04:08] <galfrid> this whole thing is a little confusing, but a good challenge
[04:13] <galfrid> ok, I'm horribly confused now... I looked in the /etc/samba folder, and it has smb.conf-original, and smb.conf-save, neither of which I remember creating, and now it won't let me save either as smb.conf
[04:13] <faked_> I can't get embedded audio working in firefox
[04:13] <Jucato> elyon225: have you tried mozilla-mplayer or something?
[04:13] <galfrid> because apparently it no longer exists now
[04:13] <faked_> Yeah mplayer's what I use
[04:14] <faked_> but for some reason it just doesn't work.
[04:14] <elyon225> Jucato: I've tried VLC and Kaffeine.  I thought mplayer was a Gnome app.
[04:14] <Jucato> elyon225: it's not really. and I think it's the only plugin that will work with firefox
[04:14] <ForgeAus> how do I find a repository that has amiwm?
[04:14] <faked_> are there any other players that'll plugin to firefox?
[04:14] <fyrmedic> How do I mount a usb drive
[04:14] <elyon225> Jucato: Alright... I'll try that.
[04:15] <galfrid> fyrmedic: doesn't it mount when you plug it in?
[04:15] <soulrider> yay, im so happy, i think i can turn my dad isnto a linux user :)
[04:15] <ForgeAus> awesome!
[04:16] <galfrid> jucato: you seem to know a lot about kde... could I pm you for a minute?
[04:16] <ForgeAus> and Jucato how do I get it Xnest (or xserver-xephyr) running? it always complains about the display being already in use
[04:16] <dope> how do i start or stop a samba server?
[04:16] <galfrid> Aha! one I know
[04:16] <fyrmedic> galfrid; No I think I disabled the automount a while back so it wouldn't screw up my kids iPod. Now I need it back.  ughhh
[04:16] <galfrid> lol, I think I know this one
[04:17] <galfrid> you're using kubuntu, right?
[04:17] <fyrmedic> yeah
[04:17] <Jucato> galfrid: better ask it in here if it's a support question
[04:17] <galfrid> ok
[04:18] <Jucato> ForgeAus: "Xephy :1 &" (to connect Xephyr to a display) then "export DISPLAY=:1" (to set the DISPLAY to the one Xephyr will use)
[04:19] <galfrid> fyrmedic: open your KDE menu and select system settings
[04:20] <fyrmedic> galfrid; and there should be an app for managing drives but it isn't there.
[04:21] <galfrid> fyrmedic:not that I know of... actually, if you right click on the desktop, and select "Configure Desktop" you should be able to work in there
[04:21] <Jucato> fyrmedic: can you remember where you disabled automount? or are you referring to the popup window that appears when you plugin a USB drive?
[04:21] <Jucato> !away > kowakowalski
[04:22] <anika> elyon225: It ocurs to measudo on the file manager side steps that new user limit
[04:22] <fyrmedic> Jucato: No I don't remember unfortunately. And I don't get the pop-up window anymore.
[04:23] <ForgeAus> does adept keep a log?
[04:24] <Jucato> ForgeAus: no. but dpkg does
[04:24] <galfrid> thanks for the help guys... I have to get some sleep!
[04:25] <dope> i don't know how to restart my samba server
[04:25] <dope> i'm trying to configure samba shares via the command line
[04:25] <ForgeAus> ok well that half-worked
[04:25] <ForgeAus> Jucato where can I find it?
[04:25] <Jucato> ForgeAus: /var/log
[04:25] <ForgeAus> the log that is
[04:26] <ForgeAus> (and how do I get Xnest to bring up a loginscreen (generally kdm here)
[04:26] <Jucato> hm... you can
[04:26] <Jucato> you can't
[04:26] <Jucato> you can only have one DM running
[04:26] <ForgeAus> um thats weird
[04:27] <ForgeAus> so how do I USE it
[04:27] <ForgeAus> Zenwalk asked me to log in inside xnest
[04:27] <ForgeAus> (thats xdm right?)
[04:27] <Jucato> no
[04:27] <Jucato> xnest and xephyr allow you to run an X session inside another X session.
[04:27] <Jucato> it doesn't, however, let you run another display manger
[04:28] <Jucato> manager*
[04:28] <ForgeAus> what point is a blank "grey" (dithered) xwindows? that I can do nothing in?
[04:28] <ForgeAus> I've HAD an X-desktop inside an Xnest window
[04:28] <ForgeAus> um I gues sI could say I got that now but its not a useable desktop
[04:29] <ForgeAus> just grey with a black X for the cursor.... what can I do with that?
[04:29] <Jucato> you got X inside Xnest/Xephyr up
[04:29] <Jucato> but you need to run the desktop too
[04:29] <ForgeAus> yes I got X ...
[04:29] <ForgeAus> yeah how do I run the desktop in it?
[04:31] <elyon225> Is there no way to modify the properties of one panel without affecting all of them??
[04:32] <slyfox> Please help I am a noob, Just started my Kubuntu and when it was booting I saw this message: Activating SWAP ... Checking Root File System.... something...something..../sda2/ has been mounted 30 times without being checked ...                      What does all this mean?
[04:32] <Jucato> elyon225: depends on which properties
[04:33] <yuriy> slyfox: every 30 times you turn on your computer, the disk gets checked for errors
[04:33] <elyon225> Jucato: I can't modify ANY properties.  Right click on my top panel and choose "Configure Panel" ... everything I change there changes my bottom panel too.
[04:33] <slyfox> yuriy: so this is normal ?
[04:33] <Jucato> elyon225: you just added the new panel?
[04:33] <Jucato> slyfox: yes
[04:33] <yuriy> slyfox: yes
[04:33] <elyon225> Jucato: Yes.
[04:33] <Jucato> unless you turn it off
[04:34] <Jucato> elyon225: need to restart the panel. Alt+F2, "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[04:34] <yuriy> elyon225: i thought there used to be a selector in the settings.. where'd that go
[04:34] <slyfox> Good, I was starting to think I messed up something :-)
[04:34] <elyon225> yuriy: I seem to remember seeing one too.. but it's not there now.
[04:34] <soulrider> does anyone here use QCad ?
[04:34] <Jucato> yuriy, elyon225: kde bug since 3.5.5
[04:34] <soulrider> !info qcad
[04:34] <ubotu> qcad: A professional CAD System. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1-1 (edgy), package size 2889 kB, installed size 12364 kB
[04:35] <elyon225> Jucato: What I'm trying to do is get my desktop setup like some screenshots I've seen.  The launch icons on the bottom (that enlarge when you mouse over them) and the other panels on top.  Is that a seperate package I need to install?
[04:35] <yuriy> Jucato: link? fixed in 3.5.6?
[04:35] <slyfox> for 2 gigs of RAM, how big should the swap be ?
[04:35] <Jucato> yuriy: unfortunately, no... and I feel partly guilty...
[04:35] <Jucato> elyon225: yes. that's a separate program
[04:35] <soulrider> elyon225: what you want is a dock i think
[04:35] <soulrider> as Jucatoits a separate program
[04:36] <Jucato> elyon225: but to be able to change the settings for each panel you add, you had to do that command I gave. until you do that, you won't see the list of panels at the top of the configuration dialog box
[04:38] <slyfox> For 2 gigs of RAM, how big should the swap be ?
[04:38] <Jucato> less than 1GB :)
[04:38] <Jucato> or 1GB if you're too cautious
[04:38] <Minataku> WRONG
[04:39] <Jucato> shouldn't you be sleeping?
[04:39] <Minataku> The swap should be twice the physical RAM
[04:39] <Jucato> duh?
[04:39] <Jucato> old school
[04:39] <Minataku> For 2GB RAM, swap is 4GB
[04:39] <Jucato> that was when RAM didn't go beyond 512MB
[04:39] <Minataku> 2GB at the minimum
[04:39] <shinigami> hi..i'm installing kubuntu for my users..i noticed there are no root user..how do i manage their computers this way?
[04:39] <slyfox> Yeah Jucato, that is what also heard. So 1 gig should be good ?
[04:40] <slyfox> Minataku: why so ?
[04:40] <soulrider> shinigami: usse sudo
[04:40] <soulrider>  !sudo
[04:40] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:40] <elyon225> soulrider: Do you know where I can find that?
[04:40] <shinigami> even sudo need their user's password
[04:40] <slyfox> Minataku: for 2 gigs of ram 2 gigs of swap ?
[04:40] <shinigami> what if the user forget his password?
[04:40] <soulrider> elyon225: a dock? try on http://kde-apps.org
[04:40] <Jucato> shinigami: use sudo.
[04:40] <soulrider> shinigami: i think you can use sudo to change the root users password
[04:40] <Minataku> shinigami: Perhaps you'd prefer a different distribution
[04:40] <soulrider> but i dont think its something nice to do :P
[04:41] <Minataku> Build an image and distribute that
[04:41] <Jucato> shinigami: sudo will ask for the user's password if and only if that user is part of the sudo'ers group (admin group)
[04:41] <shinigami> yes that's the problem
[04:41] <kubuntu_noob> can anyone help me get my sound sorted out?
[04:41] <soulrider> kubuntu_noob: it didnt work out of the box ?
[04:41] <Jucato> if the user forgets his one password, what are the chances he would remember 2 passwords?
[04:42] <Jucato> take note, his one, most important password
[04:42] <soulrider> true...
[04:42] <kubuntu_noob> it's doing some really wierd things...playing a file in kaf. randomly the sound stops...
[04:42] <Minataku> shinigami: Just don't put them in the admin/wheel group
[04:42] <endo602> anyone know how to set up a webcam?>
[04:42] <kubuntu_noob> amaroK is doing the same thing
[04:42] <soulrider> shinigami: you cna allways make another use rjust for you and use that user to admin
[04:42] <endo602> i followed the howto on the forums
[04:42] <Minataku> Jucato: Are you sure it's not wheel? sudo is typically controlled via the wheel group
[04:42] <endo602> but it isnt seem to be working
[04:42] <Jucato> !webcam
[04:42] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:42] <endo602> how can i tests it out
[04:43] <Minataku> Jucato: Also, I never said I was going to sleep
[04:43] <Minataku> lol
[04:43] <elyon225> yeah, I still get staticy sound effects (the music is fine in games if I turn the volume all the way up, but the sound effects are still staticy)
[04:43] <soulrider> kubuntu_noob: never heard of that, have you tried searching the forums ?
[04:43] <endo602> Jucato, i followed that before
[04:43] <shinigami> right..that means every computers will have a username (admin) and another for the user?
[04:43] <endo602> not getting pitcue now
[04:43] <Jucato> Minataku: no it's not the wheel.  If i had a problem like that i would tey ubuntuforums.org and ultimately google
[04:44] <Minataku> Taking well-known ways and changing them for no reason
[04:44] <Jucato> ??
[04:44] <kubuntu_noob> my audio device is still set at "automatic" is there a better setting? alsa, oss, etc.?
[04:44] <Jucato> it's a well known way that there's a wheel group?
[04:44] <Minataku> Jucato: sudo is typically controlled via membership in the "wheel" group
[04:44] <Jucato> really?
[04:44] <soulrider> kubuntu_noob: try changing it, but mine is in automatic and works allright
[04:44] <Minataku> It's an old-time Unix thing, from way back in the day
[04:45] <Jucato> so it's a UNIX thing?
[04:45] <soulrider> i wonder how an OS like windows got to be so popular....
[04:45] <Minataku> Jucato: Tradition
[04:45] <kubuntu_noob> i'll try it...i had hoped that someone would have run into this before but here's to breaking ground!
[04:45] <kubuntu_noob> cheers!
[04:45] <soulrider> good luck!
[04:46] <Minataku> I suppose *buntu changed it because they didn't want to be like Unix... psh
[04:46] <Minataku> But that's an implementation detail
[04:46] <Jucato> and Tradition always must be right?
[04:46] <shinigami> if i 'su root' what's my root password?
[04:46] <shinigami> same as the user?
[04:46] <Minataku> uid=752(ed) gid=100(users) groups=10(wheel),11(floppy),18(audio),27(video),33(xfs),35(games),100(users)
[04:46] <Jucato> shinigami: no
[04:46] <soulrider> shinigami: you can do "sudo -i"
[04:46] <Jucato> shinigami: there is no root password.
[04:46] <Minataku> There's mine, note the first member group
[04:46] <Minataku> lol
[04:46] <Jucato> shinigami: read the page linked to above
[04:47] <Minataku> Jucato: If it works, why change it?
[04:47] <Minataku> Honor the past, don't scoff at it
[04:47] <slyfox>  I have a problem with Amarok and online media, whenever I want to play a file for example from here http://www.psyshop.com/shop/Vinyls/apr/apr1ep155.html  Amarok opens up, when I want to lsiten to the next one, ANOTHER Amarok opens up, how do I play these in One Aamarok ?
[04:47] <Minataku> Apple did that... R.I.P Happy Mac
[04:47] <Minataku> Dead as of 2002
[04:47] <Jucato> how do you know it always works if you don't even try changing it from time to time because of "Tradition"
[04:48] <shinigami> the sudo bash, sudo -i, su root password is same as the user's password!
[04:48] <Minataku> Jucato: Considering it's just an implementation detail, there's no need to even bother
[04:48] <Jucato> shinigami: did you even take a look at the page?
[04:48] <Flying_Eagle> slyfox, i cant replicate this behavior
[04:48] <Minataku> The only reason you WOULD change it is because you want to piss all over your history
[04:48] <Minataku> I assume it's because "wheel" was to esoteric
[04:48] <slyfox> Flying_Eagle: For you next file opens in the same Amarok ?
[04:48] <Jucato> Minataku: then you have a very weird concept of "change"
[04:48] <Minataku> So they changed it to "admin" instead
[04:48] <Flying_Eagle> slyfox, it does
[04:49] <shinigami> what page?
[04:49] <Flying_Eagle> i tried to open the mp3s, slyfox
[04:49] <Jucato> !sudo | shinigami
[04:49] <ubotu> shinigami: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:49] <Flying_Eagle> not the rams
[04:49] <Flying_Eagle> nice music btw
[04:49] <Minataku> Jucato: Sorry, it just bothered me for some weird reason
[04:50] <slyfox> Flying_Eagle: Found my problem! Firefox was associated with Amarokapp and not Amarok
[04:51] <slyfox> Is there something exists to manage Video library? Something like Amarok for divx files ?
[04:51] <Flying_Eagle> there is a script for amarok that runs video-files
[04:51] <Flying_Eagle> so maybe you could use amarok aswell
[04:52] <slyfox> Flying_Eagle: not sure if I want to mix my huge music collection with my video collection in one player..
[04:52] <Flying_Eagle> its no outofthebox-solution but you might bypass this through giving different config-files with different databases as commandline-options, slyfox
[04:53] <slyfox> Flying_Eagle: One more very annoying proble I have with firefox KDE konqueror, You know how when you download a file with firefox, you get an option to open or open containing folder? These do not work. Any way to fix this?
[04:53] <Flying_Eagle> sorry, im using konqueror
[04:53] <Flying_Eagle> only
[04:53] <slyfox> Anyone else ?
[04:54] <endo602> how can i test to see if my webcam works?
[04:54] <slyfox> endo602: have you tried whatever program yo intend to use it for, inside it maybe there is a test option
[04:55] <Flying_Eagle> id just capture something
[04:55] <endo602> kopete
[04:55] <slyfox> Is there anyone here who uses Firefox and KDE ?
[04:56] <endo602> kopete has someting... the light on the webcam goes on but no picture
[04:58] <ForgeAus> how do I find an open port I can use for torrents?
[04:59] <ForgeAus> or for anything for that matter!
[05:00] <endo602> /etc/services
[05:00] <ForgeAus> slyfox lots of people do that
[05:01] <slyfox> ForgeAus: is there a solution to make firefox open files in konqueror ?
[05:01] <GTP> I'm having an X11 problem.  When I try to login, I get booted back to the login screen.  It has something to do with 'Xauthority'.  Anyone know what that is?
[05:01] <slyfox> ForgeAus: open containing directory or just open file
[05:01] <endo602> anyone setup a webcam and get no picture but the webcam is being read the driver is right?
[05:07] <slyfox> endo602: maybe try #ubuntu or ubuntuforums.com or linxuquestions.org
[05:08] <dwidmann> *ubuntuforums.org
[05:14] <Trickser> hey, can i use the variable "LD_ASSUME_KERNEL" in kubuntu edgy?
[05:14] <Trickser> for example LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1
[05:15] <Dr_willis> try it and see.
[05:15] <Dr_willis> i cant recall ever seeing that used ever... :)
[05:16] <mervteck> anyone knwo the stuff to put in to launch wine? from the run command
[05:16] <Dr_willis> wine path/to/whatever.exe
[05:17] <slyfox> Dr_willis:  You know how when you download a file with firefox, you get an option to open or open containing folder? These do not work. Any way to fix this?
[05:17] <mervteck> kk
[05:17] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  never noticed. i just download things to the desktop.
[05:18] <jughead> does kubuntu support booting from an nforce 4 ultra sata controller?
[05:18] <mmc> i'm hoping to get some help upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10
[05:19] <Dr_willis> jughead,  id say check the forums/wikis see if anyone has issues with that device. would be the best bet.
[05:19] <Dr_willis> !upgrade
[05:19] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:19] <slyfox> Is M Player = Movie Player ?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> mplayer is a media player. that canplay movies.. yes..
[05:19] <GTP> Any help with the Xauthority question (I can't start KDE unless in root or SUDO)
[05:20] <slyfox> Dr_willis: I mean in Kubuntu I have a player called "Media Player" is that the same as "M Player" ?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  check the menus/about/help perhaps..
[05:20] <slyfox> Dr_willis: Totem Movie Player ?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> thats totem then. :)
[05:20] <mervteck> hey willis
[05:20] <mervteck> wanna help me out with somting =)
[05:21] <mmc> i've followed the instructions "gksu /cdrom/cdromupgrade" doesnt work...
[05:21] <Dr_willis> mervteck,  depends. :)
[05:21] <amr> hi all
[05:21] <amr> i'm new t o ubuntu
[05:21] <Dr_willis> mmc,  i never upgrade. i find it safer to do a clean install after backing up your imporntatn stuff
[05:21] <amr> migrating from xp
[05:21] <amr> i need list of programs of linux to use with ubuntu
[05:22] <amr> names only
[05:22] <mervteck> ^^ im on the lasst install directions of how to install 64 bit wine and i put in " LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32" ./configure" and i get no such file or directory, but i know the file is there... any ideas?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> amr,  huh?
[05:22] <amr> yes dr_willis
[05:22] <Dr_willis> mervteck,  not really. ive given up on 64bit stuff for the time being.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> amr,  you mean like  notepad = kedit ?
[05:23] <amr> first i need a powerfull high speed download manager
[05:23] <amr> kedit >>> ok i 'm listening
[05:23] <mmc> can you do a clean install from the alternate cd?
[05:23] <mmc> is it bootable?
[05:23] <mervteck> =( well aside from the 64 bit part any ideas on hwo to fix this?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> amr,  actually you really dont need a download manager. :)
[05:24] <dwidmann> amr: kget is a decent download manager, no acceleration though
[05:24] <yuriy> amr: not sure what for, but try kget
[05:24] <Dr_willis> google for  'going from windows to linux' or 'linux program windows equilivents' i guess.
[05:25] <mervteck> http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-56206e8bc74083807ffe06ccb471d3f964cb670a this is what im using to install, on the dapper drake part
[05:25] <amr> but i need some tool to download and resume
[05:25] <Dr_willis> every 'program' in windows - proberly has a dozen+ alternatives in linux. :)  depends on what programs  ya like to use.
[05:25] <slyfox> amr: Just get Download Them All for firefox for downloads !
[05:25] <Forge> isn't there an online webpage that can do a port scan?
[05:25] <dwidmann> mervteck: you'll save yourself much time and trouble by downloading the wine i386.deb and installing with dpkg --install --force-architecture
[05:25] <Dr_willis> ive rarely needed to resume.  you on dialup?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> Forge,  google for 'shields up' - and theres a few other sites out also.
[05:26] <amr> no but i download larg files
[05:26] <Dr_willis> shields up - is a bit brain dead in ways.
[05:26] <amr> larg
[05:26] <mervteck> oo will that work?!
[05:26] <amr> i've already installed wine
[05:26] <dwidmann> mervteck: yes
[05:27] <mervteck> so dl the file, then target the exact file then run that ocmmand line?
[05:27] <dwidmann> pretty much
[05:27] <mmc> any way to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 over internet connection?
[05:27] <mervteck> kk ty dwid
[05:27] <dwidmann> dpkg --install --force-architecture something.deb
[05:27] <yuriy> !upgrade | mmc
[05:27] <ubotu> mmc: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:28] <Dr_willis> mmc,  thats normally how its done. but ive never bothered to do so.. you haveing a specific problem. perhaps the ubuntu forums/wiki may help trouble shoot.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> There has been a LOT of issues with upgrading to edgy in the past.
[05:28] <mmc> guess i'll just have to download the fresh install iso...
[05:28] <yuriy> mmc: upgrading over the internet is also quite a bit slower than installing from a cd
[05:28] <Dr_willis> The alternative install cd. is what i normally use.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> Or course any cd install.. has a lot of updates allready out for the system. :)
[05:29] <Dr_willis> or do they keep updating the cd's ? ive never noticed.
[05:29] <mmc> dr_willis... i have it... but for some reason it wont work
[05:29] <Forge> grrr its saying my computers secure! it doesn't give me a port that can be listened to!
[05:29] <yuriy> mmc: do you have a separate /home partition? if you do, it's easiest and fastest to upgrade by doing a fresh install from a cd, just make sure not to format your /home
[05:29] <aftaylor2> is kubuntu the same as ubuntu except for the kde desktop or are there other other differences?
[05:30] <mmc> yurly... nope... all one partition
[05:30] <Forge> ahhh here we go
[05:30] <yuriy> Dr_willis: they don't, except for the updated dapper cd 6.06.1
[05:30] <mmc> i can just b/u my important stuff
[05:30] <Dr_willis> yuriy,  dident think so.
[05:31] <Dr_willis> I tend to keep /home on its own partition, or drive..  makes reinstalling easy
[05:31] <yuriy> aftaylor: it's basically a different set of default packages, mainly kde instead of gnome
[05:31] <amr> i need to install beryl themes on ubuntu
[05:32] <amr> any one help
[05:32] <yuriy> aftaylor: but the system is the same and uses the same repositories, and you can go from one to the other by installing packages
[05:32] <yuriy> amr: you already have beryl installed?
[05:32] <phobiac> amr: There should be instructions in emerald.
[05:32] <mervteck> an anyone give me a direct download link to wine? i cant find it on the page
[05:32] <phobiac> The last tab if I remember, you have to fetch them.
[05:32] <amr> how to installl beryl themes on ubuntu
[05:34] <yuriy> mervteck: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/pool/main/w/wine/
[05:34] <Forge> still no good!
[05:34] <mervteck> oi wich one do i download lol
[05:35] <yuriy> mervteck: latest version ;)
[05:35] <Forge> first 1024 ports scanned and none are open (not that I'm blocking them all
[05:35] <yuriy> mervteck: the .deb
[05:35] <mervteck> i think i got it
[05:35] <mervteck> wine-deb or libwine?
[05:35] <mervteck> dev*
[05:35] <yuriy> just wine
[05:35] <yuriy> second from the bottom
[05:36] <amr> i have windows vista aero theme for ubuntu
[05:36] <amr> but icant install it how?
[05:36] <yuriy> amr: is it for gnome? for beryl? for kde?
[05:36] <yuriy> amr: .emerald is for beryl
[05:36] <amr> .emerald
[05:36] <mervteck> ty yuriy
[05:37] <yuriy> amr: if you have beryl running, click on the diamond icon in the system tray and go to emerald themes
[05:37] <amr> the file name is aero.emerald
[05:37] <amr> i use synaptic package manager to install beryl
[05:37] <amr> and i did except of one package it didn't install and give me error
[05:38] <amr> and now i can see the themes but can't apply
[05:38] <yuriy> amr: what package couldn't it install?
[05:38] <thief1985> Can anyone help me? I installed Ubuntu then installed the kubuntu-desktop package and set it to my default environment. But I restarted and I'm back in Ubuntu! How Do i switch?
[05:39] <yuriy> amr: in the emerald theme chooser thing, it applies it as soon as you click on it, last i used it
[05:39] <amr> but i click on the theme and it don't apply
[05:39] <yuriy> amr: if it doesn't, i guess you could go to "reload window decorations"
[05:39] <yuriy> see if that helps
[05:39] <stdin> thief1985: you have to choose which to use from the login screen
[05:39] <amr> does it need a restart of x-server
[05:40] <yuriy> amr: no
[05:40] <thief1985> Help meeee :'(
[05:40] <amr> ok but i used mandriva before alittle and liked XGL effects
[05:41] <amr> how to enabele it in uBUNTU
[05:41] <yuriy> amr: i don't understand. i thought you were running it already?
[05:42] <mervteck> bash: cd: /home/mervtecl/Desktop/wine_0.9.29~winehq0~ubuntu~6.10-1_i386.deb: No such file or directory i got this, anyone know what im doing wrong
[05:42] <yuriy> amr: after you install beryl from the repos, you have to run beryl-manager. you also may need to edit something in xorg.conf and you need to update your driver if you have nvidia
[05:42] <yuriy> amr: what video card do you have?
[05:42] <stdin> mervteck: did you try to cd to the file ?
[05:43] <mervteck> yes
[05:43] <amr> i did chose to install it form synaptic pakage manager but don't know how to enable
[05:43] <yuriy> mervteck: you can't cd to a file, you have to cd to the directory it's in
[05:43] <soulrider> amr: theres a good tutorial on http://ubuntuforums.org
[05:43] <soulrider> it explains everything clearly
[05:43] <stdin> mervteck: you don't, you just cd (change directory) to the directory
[05:43] <soulrider> you might wanna look for it
[05:43] <amr> ATI RADEON X300 SE 256mb hypermemory
[05:43] <yuriy> amr: sorry, i was under the impression you already had beryl running and just wanted to change the Theme
[05:44] <cyprene> Wow
[05:44] <thief1985> Can anyone help me? I installed Ubuntu then installed the kubuntu-desktop package and set it to my default environment. But I restarted and I'm back in Ubuntu! How Do i switch?
[05:44] <amr> i'll see it right now
[05:44] <mervteck> ok well i cd'ed the dekstop now what do i do ?
[05:44] <stdin> thief1985: you have to choose which to use from the login screen
[05:44] <soulrider> thief1985: when youre gonna log in, select KDE instead of GNOME
[05:44] <mervteck> if im using...
[05:44] <mervteck> 1 sec
[05:44] <mervteck> dpkg --install --force-architecture
[05:44] <mervteck> if im using that command to install it
[05:45] <thief1985> oh... wow.. i must have not seen that.. thanks stdin, soulrider
[05:45] <soulrider> thief1985: no prob, thats why were here ;)
[05:45] <borisyaltsin> hi, if I wanted to turn a wav file into a flac file how would I do that with flac? the man page is less than helpful..
[05:45] <thief1985> lol
[05:45] <thief1985> this is freakin S3XY!
[05:46] <soulrider> lol
[05:46] <yuriy> amr: here's one with a script that _should_ do it for you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338771&highlight=beryl+ati
[05:48] <yuriy> amr: or here's the howto: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy#ATI
[05:48] <amr> ok i'll see it
[05:48] <amr> thank you
[05:48] <mervteck> anyone got any idea?
[05:49] <yuriy> amr: oops you might want to scroll up on that one, there's some stuff to do before the ati section
[05:49] <stdin> mervteck: what's the question ?
[05:49] <yuriy> mervteck: what happens when you use that command to install it?
[05:49] <soulrider> mervteck: sorry, i didnt really understand the question
[05:50] <mervteck> ok i did cd /home/mervteck/Desktop to be in the area of the wine file, and now i need to install it using dpkg --install --force-architecture whats the command i put in
[05:50] <yuriy> that's the command
[05:50] <mervteck> thats it ? lol
[05:50] <dwidmann> dpkg --install--force-architecture something.deb
[05:50] <yuriy> dpkg --install --force-architecture filename
[05:50] <stdin> mervteck: just add the filename after
[05:51] <mervteck> kk
[05:51] <stdin> and use sudo
[05:51] <yuriy> oh right and that: sudo dpkg ...
[05:52] <mervteck> so its this "sudo dpkg --install --force-architecture wine_0.9.29~winehq0~ubuntu~6.10-1_i386.deb"
[05:52] <amr> hi
[05:52] <yuriy> mhm
[05:52] <amr> i did as the script but i gave me "chmod: cannot access `ati-aiglx-beryl.sh': No such file or directory"
[05:52] <mervteck> dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled:
[05:52] <mervteck>  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[05:52] <mervteck> Selecting previously deselected package wine.
[05:52] <mervteck> (Reading database ... 90448 files and directories currently installed.)
[05:52] <mervteck> Unpacking wine (from wine_0.9.29~winehq0~ubuntu~6.10-1_i386.deb) ...
[05:52] <mervteck> Setting up wine (0.9.29~winehq0~ubuntu~6.10-1) ...
[05:52] <sparr> what kernel modules might a webcam use?
[05:52] <sparr> a usb webcam
[05:53] <yuriy> amr: you have to be in the directory where you saved the script
[05:53] <yuriy> amr: cd /name/of/folder
[05:53] <dwidmann> yuriy: fyi, the index page, http://www.winebudgetdedicated.com, has a download link for the latest deb
[05:53] <dwidmann> erm, where did that url come from .... http://wine.budget...
[05:53] <yuriy> dwidmann: oh. heh. i've only used it as a repo before, i didn't realize there was a website there
[05:54] <mervteck> woot wine install worked!
[05:54] <borisyaltsin> you should celebrate by going to wine.woot.com ;)
[05:54] <Dr_willis> now find somthing it actually runs.
[05:54] <mervteck> lol they actually have that ?
[05:54] <dwidmann> mervteck: you probably need to do some heavy duty configuring though, probably
[05:54] <mervteck> well steam is installed already
[05:54] <dwidmann> :O it does exist
[05:55] <jughead> does beryl work with kubuntu?
[05:55] <stdin> jughead: yes
[05:55] <borisyaltsin> beryl is working fine with my kubuntu install.
[05:55] <mervteck> capndingus113charliebravo
[05:55] <borisyaltsin> a bit of weirdness on the taskbar and hiding panels though.
[05:55] <jughead> kthx.  I'm giving it a whirl, but all of the cool online vids of it are on the gnome desktop
[05:55] <mervteck> anyone know why it dont show text when running in wine?
[05:55] <stdin> and the 16 virtual desktops :P
[05:56] <yuriy> mervteck: hmm.. i know there was a bug like that at some point this summer, but it was fixed
[05:56] <mervteck> well steam has NO text and i cant even type in it
[05:57] <yuriy> mervteck: does winecfg work or no text there either?
[05:57] <mervteck> i dunno... where is the file at?
[05:57] <yuriy> file?
[05:57] <mervteck> what do i do with winecfg?
[05:58] <dwidmann> configure things?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> 'steam' one of the reasons i gave up on PC gaming.
[05:58] <mervteck> nvm i got it
[05:58] <yuriy> mervteck: it's used to configure wine. you just run 'winecfg' in the terminal
[05:58] <jughead> neato!
[05:58] <yuriy> mervteck: btw if people here don't know a wine question, you might want to try #winehq
[05:58] <dwidmann> dr_willis, and the other reason, would it happen to be the outrageous prices for the hardware?
[05:58] <yuriy> night all
[05:59] <dwidmann> night yuriy
[05:59] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,  lame cd copy protection.. :)
[05:59] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,  and the games constantly comming out needing more hardware... and still sucking as a game.
[05:59] <mervteck> ty! ill go there for now brb
[06:00] <dwidmann> pay $1000 and you can get the same game with "better graphics" eh dr_willish?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,  now we need those PhysicX accalerator cards! and that Uber-Networking card that will give ya better pings!
[06:00] <Dr_willis> and SLI!  gotta have SLI!
[06:01] <xsacha> sli, pfffft
[06:01] <dwidmann> indeed dr_willis
[06:01] <xsacha> you need a multidimensional array of videocards now
[06:01] <Dr_willis> guy at work dident understand WHY he was wasting his $$$ on sli.. wheni explined  it dident matter if he was only running 1024x768 res anyway...
[06:01] <dwidmann> ouch
[06:02] <surgy> hey guys i have a big problem
[06:02] <xsacha> and intel want us on 81 cores soon..
[06:02] <dwidmann> I'm not using sli can't/don't want to pay for it... my 7900gtx is okay for now
[06:02] <surgy> i have been installing kubuntu over and over and over again on my laptop thinking that my username and password were wrong
[06:02] <surgy> now i know i have it right and it is still saying its wrong
[06:02] <surgy> what is the problem
[06:02] <surgy> ?
[06:02] <Dr_willis> boot to single user mode/rescue mode..
[06:02] <HymnToLife> xsacha, that is unlikely to happen since the number of cores/processors must be a power of 2 :p
[06:03] <Dr_willis> Ive seen a few cases where your keyboards repeate rate is so high it can screw up you entering your password.
[06:03] <dwidmann> or the opposite (too low)
[06:03] <surgy> Dr_willis: what do i do after im in rescue mode?
[06:03] <xsacha> HymnToLife: maybe some of the cores are maths co-processors and physics accelerators
[06:04] <xsacha> and videocard wannabes
[06:04] <Dr_willis> surgy,  try logging in.. perhaps try setting the users password again.
[06:04] <Dr_willis> surgy,  try logging in on the console also.
[06:04] <thief85> hello again:P
[06:05] <surgy> dr_willis: ok
[06:05] <thief85> I've got another question guys .. :P How do i get xgl going on kubuntu ?:D
[06:05] <Dr_willis> surgy,  try making a new user also.. (as a test)
[06:05] <dwidmann> !xgl
[06:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:05] <dwidmann> !aiglx
[06:05] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[06:06] <thief85> wow lol cool
[06:06] <thief85> anyone know what the requirements are? Do i have to have a good graphics card for xgl
[06:06] <thief85> ?
[06:06] <surgy> dr_willis: ok im root in terminal, should i startx?
[06:06] <surgy> how do i change my pw?
[06:06] <mervteck> can anyone tell me how to install tahoma.ttf in linux?
[06:06] <xsacha> thief85: the videocard must support 3d.. so like.. no more than 9 years old generally
[06:07] <dwidmann> thief85: well, it needs to be capable of 3d acceleration, other than that the requirements are meager
[06:07] <thief85> lol
[06:07] <thief85> I've got some generic card on a p3... its AGP haha .. I'm going to try it!
[06:07] <dwidmann> ack, got myself right in the funny bone, and it wasn't funny :(
[06:07] <xsacha> if your card is more than 9 years old, you can pick up a gf4mx 440 64mb for $5 ( a special on newegg)
[06:07] <endo602> is there a program that i can ssh from windows to my box
[06:07] <surgy> !password
[06:07] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[06:08] <endo602> ?
[06:08] <stdin> endo602: putty is good
[06:08] <endo602> not cygwin
[06:08] <endo602> i need x
[06:08] <endo602> i use putty for text based
[06:08] <Dr_willis> that Xming X server for windows is handy.
[06:08] <thief85> xsacha: Thanks man, I'll do that.. Is it unsafe to try XGL in the meantime?
[06:08] <endo602> can i ssh into my box here?
[06:08] <stdin> endo602: or use FreeNX
[06:08] <xsacha> yep
[06:09] <surgy> Dr_willis: can you tell me how to change the password?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> endo602,  your question was a bit mistated. :) you asked to ssh...  heh.. xming can ssh in and run X apps and display them.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> surgy,  with the passwd command.
[06:09] <stdin> endo602: well, the NX client anyway
[06:09] <endo602> Dr_willis, thanks
[06:09] <surgy> dr_willis: so passwd [newpassword]  ?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> surgy,  try manpasswd
[06:09] <Dr_willis> surgy,  try man passwd
[06:09] <endo602> stdin, is it a small program?
[06:09] <dwidmann> surgy, no
[06:10] <dwidmann> passwd username
[06:10] <endo602> cygwin is sooo big
[06:10] <Dr_willis> if you are running it as root.. it will be changing roots password by default
[06:10] <dwidmann> then it will ask you for the new password
[06:10] <stdin> endo602: yeah, but I think you need the server on the linux side to use it
[06:11] <surgy> it says "what manual page do you want from [the pw i entered] "
[06:11] <xsacha> lol
[06:11] <elyon225> How would I go about mounting a .ape audio CD image?
[06:11] <mervteck> how do i install a font? i downloaded it already
[06:11] <xsacha> surgy: man passwd        to get info about the command
[06:11] <endo602> can i run these on windows?
[06:11] <dwidmann> mervteck: font:/
[06:11] <mervteck> nvm i got it i think =D
[06:12] <dwidmann> mervteck: in konqueror, that is
[06:12] <xsacha> surgy: passwd your_username_here           to change password for a username, eg, root
[06:12] <surgy> xsacha: thank you
[06:12] <mervteck> i had to download tahoma for steam to work right
[06:12] <elyon225> Are .ape files readable in linux?
[06:12] <stdin> endo602: the client, yeah, but Xming is probably easier http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming
[06:13] <mervteck> WOOT
[06:13] <mervteck> IT LOGS IN
[06:13] <HymnToLife> elyon225, certainly, but I don't know how :p
[06:13] <endo602> i want the client of xming right?
[06:13] <HymnToLife> elyon225, google ftw.
[06:13] <elyon225> HymnToLife: Yeah, I am...
[06:14] <elyon225> HymnToLife: Problem is, APE is apparently also the name of a Linux distro lol
[06:14] <Dr_willis> ape? thats a new one for  me
[06:14] <elyon225> dwidmann: Steam is a proprietary game delivery system for Windows.  Half-Life 2 and Counterstrike depend on it.
[06:14] <surgy> how do i exit man passwd?
[06:14] <stdin> surgy: Q
[06:15] <elyon225> But .ape is also apparently a CD image format ... one I've never heard of.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> man more :)
[06:15] <endo602> that link stdin is for the server
[06:15] <Dr_willis> or man less
[06:15] <xsacha> or less man more
[06:15] <Jucato> less is more
[06:15] <stdin> endo602: you need to run an X server on windows, if you want to use graphics
[06:15] <dwidmann> less > more
[06:15] <xsacha> less `man more`
[06:15] <Jucato> man more | less
[06:16] <xsacha> no, that would work
[06:16] <dwidmann> $man woman
[06:16] <xsacha> %blow
[06:16] <surgy> well it seams like the user name has the same problem
[06:16] <surgy> is there a list of users i can look at?
[06:16] <endo602> can i install it to usb to make it portable?
[06:16] <surgy> if so where is it?
[06:17] <stdin> surgy: /etc/passwd
[06:17] <surgy> thnx
[06:17] <stdin> np
[06:17] <surgy> the usrs are in there too?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> .ape = monkey audio format ?
[06:17] <stdin> surgy: there are only users in there, despite it's name :P
[06:17] <endo602> stdin, is there a client that i can put on my usb key
[06:18] <elyon225> OKay, so K3B can read and burn the .ape file, but how would I mount it instead of burning it?
[06:18] <stdin> endo602: not sure, never looked
[06:18] <amr> is
[06:18] <dwidmann> the passwords themselves are encypted in /etc/shadow, or something like that, IIRC
[06:18] <amr> there any way to run windows games on linux
[06:19] <Dr_willis> http://www.coolutils.com/Formats/APE     - sates there are linux .ape tools out.
[06:19] <stdin> dwidmann: yep :)
[06:19] <Dr_willis> amr,  wine sol.exe
[06:19] <amr> such as redalert
[06:19] <surgy> stdin: i dont see anything other than "root" and a bunch of directories
[06:19] <HymnToLife> Dr_willis, winmine > sol
[06:19] <Dr_willis> amr,  problem with a lot of games will be the copyprotection
[06:19] <surgy> amr: check out cedega
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Install DosBox - and  play the old Dos Classics!
[06:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:19] <dwidmann> amr: wine, but don't count on getting redalert working,I've tried, that game is hopeless
[06:19] <surgy> amr: cedega is a win32 aplication layer that emulates Direct X
[06:20] <jughead> can you follow the instructions for installing the firefox flash plugin for linux if you have one of the betas installed already?
[06:20] <HymnToLife> Dr_willis, DosBox can't run Duke Nukem 3D properly, shame
[06:20] <amr> i got to site now
[06:20] <stdin> surgy: there should be multiple lines in there
[06:20] <elyon225> jughead: That will replace your currently installed plugin.
[06:20] <surgy> stdin: there is but they are all directories
[06:20] <Dr_willis> HymnToLife,  i dont think anything can run that game properly... im not sure it ran properly when it was released. :)
[06:20] <jughead> so it's all good then?
[06:21] <amr> i'm downloading gentoo now
[06:21] <HymnToLife> Dr_willis, my MS-DOS in VMware does that like a charm
[06:21] <amr> is it better or ubuntu
[06:21] <jughead> I just wanted to be sure before I followed the intructions.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> HymnToLife,  cool. may have to try that.
[06:21] <elyon225> Dr_willis: I loved Duke3d when it came out... although it doesn't bring back the memories as much as Wolf3d... now, I played that game when I was 10.  What terrible parents lol
[06:21] <Dr_willis> HymnToLife,  wonder if FreeDOS can handle it.
[06:21] <HymnToLife> and that gis definitely one of the best ever !
[06:21] <amr> what is the diference
[06:21] <HymnToLife> game*
[06:21] <HymnToLife> Dr_willis, not well, either
[06:21] <Dr_willis> amr,  i doubt if you will be happy with Gentoo.
[06:21] <stdin> surgy: they should have something like "username:x:1000:1000:Name:/home/username:/bin/bash"
[06:21] <HymnToLife> but just google, you'll find floppy images or MSDOS pretty easily
[06:22] <elyon225> amr: Are you a pro at Linux?  Because if not, Gentoo will drive you crazy.
[06:22] <surgy> stdin: i found the uname its oem for some reason