[19:22] <altctrl> hi guys help me
[19:23] <marco> what's the program/package/script responsible for auto mounting devices in (k)ubuntu?
[19:23] <heide99> Laughing Out Loud No problem No solution HeHeHe
[19:23] <altctrl> i have this checking battery state right after when i lose the windows and i have to relog again and again it is like hitting ctl alt backspace randonly.... extremely annoying
[19:24] <altctrl> what is wrong and how can i fix it?
[19:26] <altctrl> anyone?
[19:28] <altctrl> my x dies and i get a messege checking battery state.... what to do?
[19:33] <altctrl> now i was gone again becasue of this error
[19:34] <altctrl> anyone has any idea what to do?
[19:35] <OrbJinzo> are you on a laptop?
[19:36] <altctrl> who me? i am
[19:36] <robile> does anyone know a plugin for xmms to show the available playlists in an extra window or so?
[19:36] <OrbJinzo> Well I would make sure your battery isnt screwed up first.
[19:37] <Koordin> how can i set up a keyboard shortcut for the widget "Show Desktop" ? i have kde 4.1.3
[19:37] <altctrl> it is ok i never had this problem before i upgraded from 8.04
[19:37] <altctrl> and actually what happned first that i did the network upgrade and it stopped after it was downloading everything
[19:37] <SiVA_> hey
[19:38] <SiVA_> iwlist ra0 scan shows my router
[19:38] <altctrl> so i had to do the install from a cd instead
[19:38] <OrbJinzo> im not sure about kde 4.
[19:38] <SiVA_> but when I try to create a new connection, selecting ra0, it doesn't find my router in the list
[19:38] <altctrl> now i have this stupid thing occuring very frequently seemingly random
[19:38] <altctrl> yes it might be kde4
[19:39] <steveire> Hi. What's the recommended way to upgrade hardy to intrepid? I tried sudo do-release-upgrade,  but that didn't work.
[19:39] <altctrl> i have no idea thats what i did and when it started to actually installing it it froze and i had to do it from a cd
[19:40] <OrbJinzo> http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-8.04-to-ubuntu-8.10-desktop-and-server
[19:40] <altctrl> now i have one part old notfinished kubuntu and this one that gets me out of x and telling me checking battery state    [OK]
[19:41] <OrbJinzo> Hrm corrupted install
[19:41] <altctrl> how can i tell no to check batter state?
[19:41] <OrbJinzo> i would assume it would do something about power settings
[19:41] <altctrl> it works fine except this annoying kicking me out of x
[19:42] <altctrl> i might just dissapear any seconds... power setting? where do  you change it?
[19:42] <OrbJinzo> Well
[19:42] <OrbJinzo> kde4 right?
[19:42] <altctrl> yes
[19:42] <altctrl> 4.1
[19:42] <thomas_> why kubuntu?
[19:42] <thomas_> why not ubuntu?
[19:42] <steveire> OrbJinzo: Thanks. I was missing the sudo vi /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades part
[19:43] <altctrl> are we not in kubuntu channel?
[19:43] <thomas_> yes
[19:43] <altctrl> that's why
[19:43] <OrbJinzo> np
[19:43] <thomas_> but  I have Ubuntu, and I wonder why you gys chose Kubuntu
[19:43] <OrbJinzo> heh its all ubuntu
[19:43] <OrbJinzo> I actually use Xubuntu with kde installed.
[19:44] <OrbJinzo> kde 3.5.10
[19:44] <thomas_> oh
[19:44] <OrbJinzo> and altctrl try opening a terminal with the command powerdevil in it
[19:45] <dawid> can anyone give me program i .deb package to change most of options o kubuntu i mean welcome logo.....
[19:45] <thomas_> so why specificly that distro with KDE, why not gome?
[19:45] <OrbJinzo> Im not too fond of gnome
[19:45] <SiVA_> when I try to create a new network connection, using my wifi device, my wifi router doesn't show up. But when I run this it does: iwlist ra0 scan
[19:45] <OrbJinzo> i thought it was always slow.
[19:45] <altctrl> personal preferences
[19:45] <thomas_> ah
[19:45] <thomas_> :)
[19:46] <altctrl> i used to like the idea that i can set different backgrounds for different desktops
[19:46] <altctrl> now it looks like kde4 does not have it or it is not as obvious to set
[19:46] <OrbJinzo> I dont like kde4 either
[19:46] <thomas_> That's a nice Idea, too bad I can't
[19:46] <OrbJinzo> so ill remain in the past with 3.5
[19:46] <thomas_> lol
[19:47] <altctrl> i think 4.2 will have that coming at of this months
[19:47] <HappySmileMan> It has that in Beta I think?
[19:47] <altctrl> the look of kde4 is better
[19:47] <OrbJinzo> I used to use primary xfce
[19:47] <OrbJinzo> looks yes
[19:47] <Koordin> how can i set up a keyboard shortcut for the widget "Show Desktop" ? i have kde 4.1.3
[19:48] <OrbJinzo> then i got tried of desktop icons always screwing up
[19:48] <HappySmileMan> Yeha I just set a different background for a different activity
[19:48] <OrbJinzo> so i resintalled kde 3.5
[19:48] <OrbJinzo> been happy as a clam ever since
[19:48] <aib> is there a cron gui in kubuntu?
[19:48] <altctrl> i have not figured out the activitis yet since i cant stay long enough there
[19:48] <SiVA_> how can I configure a wifi connection through the console? The knetwork tool doesn't list any ssids
[19:49] <altctrl> well powerdevil said command not found...
[19:49] <OrbJinzo> aib: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93611
[19:51] <Armagguedes> how can i report bugs (especially when i don't know what the problem package is)?
[19:52] <OrbJinzo> this channel #ubuntu-bugs
[19:52] <BluesKaj> I ended up with a folder in a folder somehow and konq won't allow cutting and pasting the contents to a new folder which would then be in my /home/user path .
[19:53] <Armagguedes> cheers OrbJinzo
[19:54]  * OrbJinzo is the master of google.
[19:54] <altctrl> when i searched on "checking battery state" it looked like a lots of different porblem arisen...
[19:54] <OrbJinzo> ?
[19:55] <OrbJinzo> To me altcrtl it sounds like a corrupted install
[19:56] <OrbJinzo> Im not 100% sure on kde4 so im just guessing really
[19:56] <altctrl> ok so where is it corruptd and what can i do about it?
[19:56] <altctrl> try to reinstal it?
[19:56] <altctrl> is there a way to see which part isnt good?
[19:57] <OrbJinzo> heh knowing me id wipe the whole thing and start from square one.
[19:58] <altctrl> yeah but first i want to save some stuff from my old nonfinished part
[19:58] <altctrl> then i willdo that
[19:58] <altctrl> but always stopping int he middle of everything makes it hard
[19:59] <OrbJinzo> if its files and stuff id burn it to a CD
[19:59] <OrbJinzo> or an external HD if you have one
[20:00] <altctrl> yes that is what i do
[20:00] <altctrl> but when i start doing something else what i am doing like run a new program it jsut kicks me out of x
[20:00] <OrbJinzo> I just had a thought though
[20:01] <altctrl> really annoying i am here now to see if i can get this fixed
[20:01] <SiVA_> how can I configure a wifi connection through the console? The knetwork tool doesn't list any ssids, although iwlist does
[20:01] <OrbJinzo> do you have your video drivers installed?
[20:01] <altctrl> i guess... everything looks ok jsut by looking at it
[20:02] <altctrl> but i am not sure how can i have an interface wihout video driver...
[20:03] <OrbJinzo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=982621
[20:03] <OrbJinzo> this looks like a known issue.
[20:04] <OrbJinzo> you could try booting into a different kernel
[20:04] <altctrl> where is my different kernel?
[20:05] <OrbJinzo> well when you first boot up it will say something about GRUB i think you hit escape
[20:05] <OrbJinzo> and it will show you options
[20:05] <altctrl> i see they have the same thing....
[20:06] <OrbJinzo> yar
[20:06] <altctrl> they all look like the same numbered kernel...
[20:06] <OrbJinzo> I guess its an issue with the lastest kernel
[20:06] <altctrl> only diff its failsafe or soemthing... im going by memory now
[20:07] <altctrl> i see the one where he saying diff kernel is ok...
[20:07] <altctrl> how can i check which kernel i got?
[20:07] <OrbJinzo> hit up a terminal and do uname -r
[20:09] <altctrl> 2.6.27-9-generic
[20:10] <OrbJinzo> this sounds like a bug in the kernel
[20:10] <inigo_> hl
[20:10] <altctrl> why they dont fix it?
[20:10] <altctrl> i am telling everyone to upgrade then they will have the same shit
[20:10] <altctrl> where do we report it or see if it is reported already/
[20:10] <OrbJinzo> well man about all i can it happens
[20:11] <OrbJinzo> nothing can be 100% when you release.
[20:11] <OrbJinzo> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[20:11] <altctrl> thanks let me see
[20:12] <altctrl> now registration... i hate that everyone wants me to register everywheree
[20:12] <OrbJinzo> heh life sucks doesnt it?
[20:13] <altctrl> sometimes it does
[20:13] <OrbJinzo> ill tell ya a fun part
[20:13] <altctrl> it should be shit this mesed up u wanna send all the details? yes/no
[20:13] <OrbJinzo> ya.
[20:13] <OrbJinzo> Tis the adventure of linux though
[20:14] <altctrl> now i have to register jsut to see they already know about it
[20:14] <altctrl> yes but it was an adventure 6 years ago
[20:14] <altctrl> today it should be jsut work or play
[20:15] <OrbJinzo> It happens even to mac os x or windows users
[20:15] <OrbJinzo> anything human made is not without flaws
[20:15] <OrbJinzo> :|
[20:17] <marco> indeed, it's just that linux has disproportionally more flaws than what people expect from their experience on other systems
[20:18] <OrbJinzo> True. I think to use linux though you have to have rubix cube mind type
[20:18] <OrbJinzo> everything is a puzzle waiting to be figured out
[20:19] <marco> if you mean "it's an overcomplicated puzzle which will take more time to solve it than most care", then I completely agree with you ;-)
[20:19] <OrbJinzo> hah
[20:19] <OrbJinzo> hey i find it fun
[20:22] <marco> :P yeah, I also find it fun. The problem is that linux seems to be more and more focused either on enterprise uses which are addicted to linux or on rapid (and kludgy) development to satisfy first time users
[20:22] <SiVA_> when I right click on knetworkmanager it says my wifi device has "wireless disabled". How can I enable that so I can create a wifi connection?
[20:23] <marco> I find it increasingly less fun to learn ever new specific purpose paradigms for every new program, only to find out it's not working because I'm not thinking exactly like the developer who didn't bother much with documentation
[20:23] <marco> oh well, such is life :P
[20:24] <Orac> hello all
[20:25] <marco> hello
[20:25] <Orac> any ladies fancy a chat?
[20:26] <marco> god bless you, this is a linux IRC chat. All ladies here are either perverts or FBI agents
[20:26] <Orac> nothing wrong with a bit of f.b.i.
[20:27] <OrbJinzo> haha
[20:27] <OrbJinzo> i doubt its fbi
[20:27] <OrbJinzo> maybe local police depts
[20:27] <OrbJinzo> sides theres no ladies in linux chat
[20:27] <OrbJinzo> never.
[20:27] <Orac> where i live thay dont offer that service
[20:30] <Orac> dose any one know how i can get my web cam working on linux
[20:30] <SiVA_> how do I enable my wireless device? It talks about it here but I think it's for gnome: http://www.geek.com/forums/topic/cannot-enable-my-wireless-device-in-kubuntu
[20:32] <Orac> snowing again
[20:39] <denis_> fir3_ hab das entsprechende Programm hinzugefügt und mal auf 1440 x 900 gestellt, hat nix geändert, echt schlimm, so ne Kleinigkeit is so kompliziert :-( Naja, ich lass es erst mal, gibt wichtigeres
[20:39] <denis_> ups, sorry, wrong channel
[20:42] <SiVA_> when I try to log in kde 4.1 hangs when the globe shows up on the spash page
[20:42] <SiVA_> I think I screwed some networking option up
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: if you screwed networking, rename /etc/network/interfaces and reboot
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: if its no better, you can easily rename back
[20:45] <Trijntje> when playing a movie in kubuntu 8.04 the image, not the sound, starts lagging after about 10 minutes. Does anyone have an idea how to fix/diagnose this problem?
[20:45] <SiVA_> seems I was messing with that file a few minutes ago ...lol
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | Trijntje
[20:46] <marco> how can I download the source code from a specific package? Can I use APT tools to do that?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> marco: sudo apt-get source install <app>
[20:46] <SiVA_> ActionParsnip: Still hangs at the globe.....
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: whats this globe thing?
[20:47] <SiVA_> when you first login.. the splash screen
[20:47] <SiVA_> shows the harddrive, then the screw driver, then the globe, then the K
[20:47] <marco> ActionParsnip:thanks
[20:49] <marco> ActionParsnip: I get "E: Unable to find a source package for install"
[20:49] <marco> I tried "sudo apt-get source install xterm"
[20:50] <OrbJinzo> heh
[20:50] <OrbJinzo> xterm is installed by default.
[20:50] <OrbJinzo> thats part of x itself.
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: ok i just watched a vid of the splash
[20:50] <marco> I see, I take the source code is also installed?
[20:51] <OrbJinzo> Uhmm that i dont know.
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: you could try pressing alt+f1 and see whats runnning
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> marco: then you need to add the source repo for the app you want
[20:52] <SiVA_> not much info there... guess I gotta do another install
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: try renaming your ~/.kde folder
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: or create a new user, see ifits identical
[20:54] <marco> ActionParsnip: Ah. Aren't the sources hosted by ubuntu's repo servers that already are on the source list? I mean, they need to distribute the source code of each program they distribute with a GPL licence, right?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> marco: yes but you look at /etc/apt/sources.list you will see some deb-src repos
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> marco: you need to add the src repo
[21:06] <rene> aloha folks!
[21:07] <rene> can somebody read this? its my first time that i ma logged in to irc
[21:07] <rene> it doesnt looks like
[21:07] <SSJ_GZ> rene: Yes.
[21:07] <rene> #oh1
[21:08] <rene> thanks for oyur answer! nice! it works1
[21:09] <rene> is nobody talking or everybody on a private speach. or do i something wrong
[21:10] <rene> do someone has experiences with tork ?
[21:10] <SSJ_GZ> rene: Nobody is talking at the moment.
[21:11] <rene> ok, thanks again. i have to raise a ticket for my thanks to you...
[21:11] <JontheEchidna> If you need help, just ask. If somebody knows the answer they'll usually respond :)
[21:12] <rene> ok...
[21:13] <rene> so, i installed tork, with privoxy and tor, everything what i needed. now he says something like, "cannot connect to tor" or, "cannot FIND tor", but its there. i think that some configuration are not right. soembody any idea?
[21:14] <JontheEchidna> hmm, I've never had much luck getting tor to work myself
[21:14] <rene> something like" cannot comunicate with tor"
[21:15] <rene> yes, thanks, i thought that i am a littel bit, dumb.
[21:15] <rene> but now trok is communicating with tor, BUT, if i chekc my ip, its still the same. configuraton on my browser are also ok.
[21:16] <rene> not trok, tork of course..sorry 4 that
[21:16] <rene> so many people and not one is talking 2 me
[21:17] <rene> THANKS!! GUYS!!
[21:17] <rene> except SSj, of course
[21:17] <JontheEchidna> If I had a guess I'd say that tor itself isn't working or at least not running
[21:18] <BluesKaj> IIRC tor needs privoxy to work right , rene
[21:19] <rene> well, it is running, its is connected, privoxy is ok, and, then it came up a messages, "cannot communicate with tor",.well, now he says "connected to tor" but, if i check the ip, its the same, also if i try to chnage the server, ip is the same. so, i am not running over tor.
[21:20] <rene> i am sitting on this problem now fro 5 days.. and, go slowly really mad
[21:20] <rene> BluesKaj, privoxy is on.. its ok.. ....i hope..
[21:21] <BluesKaj> what are doing that you need to proxy ?
[21:21] <rene> BluesKaj: i am not sure if i understand your question right..
[21:22] <rene> well, tork (kubuntu) runs torK with privoxy. right?
[21:23] <BluesKaj> rene, well if you are trying to hide your IP cuz you're DLing torrents then most proxy hosts will check you out and ban you if that's the case.
[21:23] <rene> and also, what is this pleas:
[21:23] <rene> Jan 05 22:23:12.089 Privoxy(b7d526b0) Fatal error: can't check configuration file '/root/config':  No such file or directory
[21:24] <rene> Blues
[21:24] <rene> BluesKaj: yes, thats true, but, you can setup the settings so that you will be not fired from a server because of this.
[21:24] <BluesKaj> rene , I know this cuz I already tried it :)
[21:26] <rene> really? but, (the word BUT is mylovely word for the last days i think) it doesnt matter if i get no access to a server, or, you mean to the tor server?
[21:26] <gallus> #kanotix
[21:27] <gallus> ! infobash
[21:29] <rene> it doesnt metter with side i am looking 4, i am not runnig over tor. i saw the last time, few months ago when i had my old pc with linux and my ex took it from me, that tor works. now, not. it doesnt metter if i try kubuntu or ubuntu. both are not runnig. can  this be a configuration misstake with bios? because i have a new HDD##
[21:29] <rene> but i dont think so...
[21:30] <rene> further i get a failer messages from snort all the time.. can this be the problem maybe?
[21:30] <Adola> Ok, if you use the command "cat" it writes to a file where you can't see it....
[21:31] <Adola> Right?  Well, how can I edit it?
[21:31] <rene> everytime when i install some programm, there is this message from snort..
[21:33] <rene> do somebody know how i configurate the privoxy? i know i did few mothns ago something where i had to write soemthing like: forwardsock4 and, 9050 . but i dont know anymore how?
[21:34] <Wicked> rene, google. tor. gotot here website. check there docs. they have detailed howto's.
[21:35] <rene> Wicked: i did it already. nothing. thats why i am so, confused.. i follow everything what there was.. nothing
[21:35] <Wicked> rene, or here. ill make it it easy. http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en
[21:35] <Trijntje> when i play a movie on 8.04 the picture laggs after about 10 minutes. The sound is still good. I have all codex installed. Does anybody know how to diagnose/fix this?
[21:37] <rene> i know this side. its tar.gz.i had already look at it. now a really stupid question and please, dont kill me..
[21:37] <rene> i have now kubuntun, that means i need packages with debian, not tar. or?
[21:38] <s0101> hi all could i please get some help installing a di-604 router?
[21:38] <rene> i am really confused as you can see
[21:38] <Wicked> !apt | rene
[21:39] <Wicked> rene, ok listen for a sec. before installing anything always check to see if its in the repositories. check with this command "aptitude search tor" if it find something use this to install it "aptitude install package"
[21:39] <rene> ubottu: thanks, really, but i know how to this commands.
[21:40] <rene> ok, Wicked, let me see..
[21:40] <rene> aptitude search tor
[21:40] <rene> aaaach
[21:40] <rene> oha
[21:40] <s0101> when i connect it like it should be (cables are correct) i dont get any connection i have all the ip:s except the secondary dns
[21:41] <rene> ok, this is a long list. what i have to looking 4?
[21:41] <Wicked> rene, whatever u want to install.
[21:42] <StR|Sangreal> excuse me, i am new to kubuntu, and i am willing to upgrade to .10, but the simple upgrade process via adept_upgrader fails as i click next on "new distr available" window... what shlould i do?
[21:43] <rene> the problem is not the installing, the problem is, as i can see it, to configurate tork with privoxy and/ot tor###
[21:43] <Wicked> ive never used that StR|Sangreal . but there are other ways to upgrade
[21:44] <Wicked> !upgrade
[21:44] <Wicked> rene, seriously. i have given u ALL the info u need to install and configure tor and privoxy.
[21:44] <Wicked> rene, please actually read the link i gave you.
[21:45] <rene> thats strange. i know that i used synaptic from the monitor. now, i asked for "synaptic2 and he couldnt find that. i have to install it..
[21:45] <StR|Sangreal> i followed all instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu
[21:45] <Wicked> rene, http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en
[21:45] <rene> i am reading and i wrote this also be4. really, i dont know whats going on.
[21:46] <Wicked> StR|Sangreal, when u say it fails....what does it do? does it just quit? or does it give u errors?
[21:46] <StR|Sangreal> kdesudo "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel" i use this command, press upgrade distro, press next
[21:46] <Wicked> rene, i dont think i can make it any clearer for you.
[21:46] <rene> what is also funny that tork is asking me "where i can find tor" =????? hää?
[21:47] <rene> Wicked: no, its ok, and thansk a lot.
[21:47] <rene> toer
[21:47] <StR|Sangreal> then a new window claims error like signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
[21:47] <StR|Sangreal> but i cannot interpret what it means
[21:48] <rene> ok, privoxy failer what comes up in terminal:
[21:48] <rene> Jan 05 22:47:29.177 Privoxy(b7db96b0) Fatal error: can't check configuration fil                        e '/root/config':  No such file or directory
[21:48] <rene> the config file is not setup.. i would say
[21:48] <Wicked> rene, how are you trying to start it?
[21:48] <rene> i really go crazy... slowly...
[21:49] <StR|Sangreal> then adept terminates
[21:49] <rene> i dont do anything, its starts with reboot
[21:49] <rene> auto
[21:49] <rene> no manuell start..
[21:50] <StR|Sangreal> i used >> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:50] <StR|Sangreal> but it didnt bring any progress
[21:50] <StR|Sangreal> could sb explain me how should i upgrade and where is my fault?
[21:50] <rene> and i had a failer with dpkg
[21:51] <Wicked> StR|Sangreal, hmm. i havent done a upgrade in a long time. but i do belive u can do it with apt. i think its aptitude dist-upgrade
[21:51] <Wicked> rene, how did u install privoxy originally?
[21:52] <rene> well, with tor together. than i tried to install vidalia and that doesnt worked. so, than i find torK and install it.
[21:52] <rene> and the old tor version is still in the directory.. can be this a problem?
[21:53] <StR|Sangreal> root@vladislav-laptop:/home/vladislav# aptitude dist-upgrade
[21:53] <StR|Sangreal> Načítavajú sa zoznamy balíkov... Hotovo
[21:53] <StR|Sangreal> Vytvára sa strom závislostí
[21:53] <StR|Sangreal> Reading state information... Hotovo
[21:53] <StR|Sangreal> Inicializujú sa stavy balíkov... Hotovo
[21:53] <StR|Sangreal> Zapisujú sa rozšírené stavové informácie... Hotovo
[21:53] <StR|Sangreal> Vytvára sa databáza značiek... Hotovo
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[21:53] <StR|Sangreal> Chcete pokračovať? [Y/n/?]
[21:53] <rene> i canwhat is this?
[21:53] <Wicked> !flood | StR|Sangreal
[21:53] <StR|Sangreal> ok, i am sorry
[21:53] <miso> Hi - I have a question about the LiveCD if anyone has a second
[21:53] <StR|Sangreal> Wicked, the command will only remove some packages
[21:54] <Wicked> rene, im not sure i understand you. how did u install tor
[21:54] <rene> primary we have to fix the tor problem..
[21:54] <StR|Sangreal> it isnt probably what i am looking for
[21:54] <Wicked> StR|Sangreal, hmm ok. i vaughly remember having to change the sources.list to use the upgraded repo's
[21:54] <BluesKaj> !ask | miso
[21:55] <miso> No matter what K/Ubuntu LiveCD I use, I get the following error: "kernel panic: try passing init= option to kernel". Any ideas why?
[21:55] <rene> thrue the site http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en , than i tried to install vidalia, over the vidalia HP, but this really not functioned. so, after few days i install tork, (privoxy i installed few days ago, manueally thrue monitor) a
[21:56] <StR|Sangreal> Wicked, do you possibly understand why adept fails?
[21:56] <rene> (privoxy i installed few days ago WITH TOR, manueally thrue monitor)
[21:57] <rene> i also have made a up & upgrade..
[21:57] <rene> nothing
[21:57] <Wicked> StR|Sangreal, not really. but i know from past experiences that the gui package managers are much less stable then using the command line...which is why i only use the cli to maintain updates and install packages
[21:57] <rene> library: everything is in place, installed
[21:57] <rene> cli?
[21:58] <Wicked> rene, did you use apt to install everything? or did u seperatly download and install them>
[21:58] <miso> cli = command line interface
[21:58] <Wicked> rene, i think you downloaded the wrong version and messed something up.
[21:58] <rene> so many people and just some GOOD GUYS are answering me..
[21:58] <BluesKaj> !kernel panic
[21:58] <rene> ooh, maybe you are right..
[21:59] <rene> do you know the HP for kubuntu deb priovxy?
[21:59] <miso> BluesKaj - I don't understand.
[21:59] <StR|Sangreal> ok, wicked, pls give me the sequence i should execute
[21:59] <StR|Sangreal> (maybe with a little comment what it does)
[21:59] <Wicked> rene, ONLY install stuff through apt. avoid downloading stuff from websites and installing...we are not on windows!
[22:00] <rene> well, sometimes i received on an homepage which i visited an 503 error. privoxy error, can this help a littel?
[22:00] <Wicked> rene, i dont.
[22:00] <StR|Sangreal> Wicked, could you pay a little attention to my problem so that i may proceed the update and quit, please?
[22:00] <rene> no, no worries, i know how to install programms. but, how can i check if it is the right version?
[22:00] <Wicked> StR|Sangreal, well you would edit /etc/apt/sources.list. change all the hardy to intrepid. then you would reload the list "aptitude update" then you would "aptitude dist-upgrade"
[22:00] <BluesKaj> miso , I was trying to get our infobot to give an explanation of possible kernel panic causes , but it doesn't have any information
[22:01] <Wicked> !patience | StR|Sangreal
[22:01] <BluesKaj> !panic
[22:01] <Wicked> !kp
[22:01] <Wicked> !kernelpanic
[22:01] <BluesKaj> !info kernelpanic
[22:01] <miso> Ah, I see, thanks. The *only* LiveCD I seem to be able to boot is OpenSuse 11.
[22:01] <BluesKaj> !info kernel panic
[22:01] <rene> Wicked; just a question: to who you are talking 2?
[22:02] <miso> which suggests I may have a hardware issue...
[22:02] <rene> i am confused if you are talking to me or not..
[22:02] <rene> :-)
[22:02] <miso> Wicked's showing how the ubuntu bot works
[22:02] <Wicked> rene, i am helping you and StR|Sangreal . when i want to tell you something i prefix it with your name
[22:02] <StR|Sangreal> i am sorry for violating the community rules... i am new here and i do not really know what to expect and how to request... but i am thankful to your advice, i would try
[22:02] <BluesKaj> miso, could be hardware alright
[22:03] <Wicked> StR|Sangreal, yea. no probs. just remeber we are helping to be nice...and we once got help here when we didnt know what to do.
[22:04] <BluesKaj> miso, are you taliking about just trying to run the live cd or installing the OS ?
[22:04] <miso> either way, it won't work
[22:04] <Wicked> is this a laptop?
[22:04] <Wicked> or desktop?
[22:04] <miso> Wicked - you're asking me? if so, Desktop
[22:05] <StR|Sangreal> well, wicked, i know that i cannot offer anything here, but mostly i recognize two states: being attended or not being attended
[22:05] <rene> so the possibilities are there that i  have the wrong privoxy.. maybe.. thats why is tork all the time asking "where is tor". also, now he says, connected to tor.. but.. again but.. i am really sorry for the BUT, but, it doesnt work right. .
[22:05] <BluesKaj> ok miso, which desktop and how old and which kubuntu release ?
[22:05] <Wicked> miso, yea i was.
[22:06] <Wicked> miso, have you verified the downloads before burning them?
[22:06] <miso> Sempron 2200, 3GB RAM, 40GB & 80 GB harddrives, about 4-5 years old.
[22:06] <miso> Yes, download was verified. Burn's were fine.
[22:07] <Wicked> miso, thats more then capable...but i would verify the download is complete. check the md5
[22:07] <Wicked> hmm
[22:08] <miso> To give some background.... this is an old box that I want to set an LFS system up on. Easiest way to do that is to install anoither distro first so I thought I'd use kubuntu as that is what I use on my regular box.
[22:08] <rene> hello? did you droped me??
[22:08] <miso> but *no* version of the kubuntu livecd will work - same error
[22:08] <miso> The OPenSuse liveCD however, does work.
[22:09] <miso> So I installed OpenSuse and have run the lfs install and I *know* I got it right.
[22:09] <StR|Sangreal> Wicked, what is the meaning and usage to aptitude command?
[22:09] <miso> Unfortunately, on booting lfs I get this kernel panic error - exactly the same as when booting the Kubuntu liveCD.
[22:09] <miso> So I'm trying to redue possibilities and unfortunately I'm thinking it's more an more likely be hardware related...
[22:10] <BluesKaj> miso , lfs , 'scuse me but what file system is that , or is it one ?
[22:11] <miso> sorry - lfs = Linux From Scratch. It's a bare-bones distro...
[22:11] <BluesKaj> ok
[22:11] <BluesKaj> early dinner, bbiab
[22:12] <miso> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[22:13] <rene> ok guys, thanks for oyur help
[22:15] <StR|Sangreal> okay
[22:15] <StR|Sangreal> replacing hardy with interpid caused all repositories to malfunction
[22:15] <Wicked> StR|Sangreal, aptitude is like apt-get
[22:16] <StR|Sangreal> Wicked, could you chceck my problem please?
[22:16] <StR|Sangreal> i think the last step was in a wrong direction
[22:17] <Wicked> which step?
[22:18] <StR|Sangreal> replacing hardy with interpid
[22:18] <Wicked> thats right.
[22:18] <StR|Sangreal> aptitude then didnt recognize any of the formerly valid repositories
[22:18] <StR|Sangreal> ok, undone, what next?
[22:19] <Wicked> StR|Sangreal, well you would edit /etc/apt/sources.list. change all the hardy to intrepid. then you would reload the list "aptitude update" then you would "aptitude dist-upgrade"
[22:19] <StR|Sangreal> i said i did that
[22:20] <StR|Sangreal> all the repositories went to invalid and no package could be recognized
[22:20] <Wicked> *sigh*. obviously ya didnt change them all..or typo'ed
[22:20] <StR|Sangreal> aha
[22:21] <Wicked> please verify that you ONLY changed hardy to intrepid.
[22:21] <StR|Sangreal> spelling fail :D
[22:21] <Wicked> ah ok.
[22:21] <UbuNoo1> I just installed Kubuntu 8.04 on Toshiba Laptop.  My first linux install on a machine so I'm still learning... Everything seems to work well except the Sound.  I've checked online documentation.  I know that the sound card type, and the kernel module that should be loading (which is loaded).  So, I'm not sure what to try next.  Any ideas?
[22:22] <Wicked> UbuNoo1, in a terminal. type "alsamixer" make sure nothing is muted and that the sliders are uo
[22:22] <Wicked> *up
[22:22] <StR|Sangreal> i had a similar problem and i needed to have my alsa fully reinstalled
[22:22] <StR|Sangreal> ...
[22:23] <UbuNoo1> Wicked- chking...
[22:24] <StR|Sangreal> after aptitude update, except a few invalid repositories the rest appears to be fine
[22:24] <Wicked> ubottu, also how are you checking the sound?
[22:24] <Wicked> doh
[22:24] <Wicked> UbuNoo1, how are you checking the sound too?
[22:24] <Wicked> by default mp3's wont play
[22:24] <StR|Sangreal> now i should execute aptitude dist-upgrade and pray?
[22:25] <Wicked> StR|Sangreal, what invalid repos?
[22:25] <Wicked> pastebin me the output
[22:25] <genii> Perhaps pray first
[22:26] <StR|Sangreal> okay i will try
[22:26] <StR|Sangreal> :)
[22:26] <StR|Sangreal> Ign http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/restricted Translation-sk
[22:26] <StR|Sangreal> eg this has gone wrong hasnt it?
[22:27] <UbuNoo1> Wicked - Just ran alsamixer... All the sliders are up.  I've been trying to play *wav files from /usr/share/sounds/ using Kaffeine.  (BTW - how do I check if something is muted with alsamixer?  I've been using KMix to check sound configurations)
[22:27] <StR|Sangreal> in the mixer
[22:27] <Matisse> hi
[22:27] <Matisse> I have changed the UUID in /boot/grub/menu.lst  and in /etc/fstab  and now my system boots with an ash shell as result I've changed the UUID using bklid or sth. like supposed when booting ends with fsck error 80. WHAT can I do now ? I dont even see the root partion, only a certain one, which I used for data storage. How can I mount the missing partitions ? I need to do it to change back the uuid i think (but actually the uuid which was there befo
[22:27] <Matisse> re, maybe I just got the wrong one)
[22:27] <StR|Sangreal> you have to have all the green points above the bar checked
[22:28] <StR|Sangreal> means light green, not dark green
[22:28] <Wicked> StR|Sangreal, umm. something has i think. check to make sure u didnt erase to much...or everything is spelt correct
[22:29] <StR|Sangreal> after reconfigurating the text file, automatic updates have detected some 800MB to install
[22:29] <StR|Sangreal> 235 to install, 800 to upgrade and 30 to remove
[22:30] <StR|Sangreal> thus i have launched the adept updater and now i am praying
[22:30] <StR|Sangreal> is that finish?
[22:36] <UbuNoo1> Wicked - Alsamixer has all the bars "up", and all items are active (not muted).    Any other ideas about how I should test the sound?
[22:42] <UbuNoo1> Anyone else have experience getting the sound to work on install of Kubuntu 8.04 on a laptop?
[22:43] <Wicked> hey sorry. im really busy atm
[22:43] <Wicked> !sound
[22:44] <UbuNoo1> wicked - I know you're busy; thought someone else might be able to help too...
[22:44] <StR|Sangreal> another important nottice to sound
[22:44] <divinebovine> !ops
[22:44] <StR|Sangreal> in system configuration, you have auto detect driver by default
[22:45] <Riddell> divinebovine: hmm?
[22:45] <divinebovine> zumran: is harrasing users inapropriately online.  can we have him banned?
[22:45] <genii> divinebovine: Don't do that
[22:45] <StR|Sangreal> change it into alsa
[22:45] <divinebovine> k.
[22:45] <Riddell> divinebovine: he hasn't said anything on channel
[22:45] <divinebovine> no worries, just wait
[22:46] <ikonia> what's up ?
[22:46] <Riddell> divinebovine: try nalioth if you need a freenode staff member
[22:46] <ikonia> divinebovine: what did he say he's not said anything in the channel
[22:46] <divinebovine> he's messaging users with asl requests
[22:47] <ikonia> divinebovine: who is he messaging ?
[22:47] <Skrot-> Hi. Is there a way to boot the kubuntu installer from a small USB key and install the packages via network?
[22:47] <divinebovine> i've got no proof of anyone but me.  however considering i've been silent for about 4 months and had no reason to be clicked on i'm surmising there are more than one user being approached
[22:47] <StR|Sangreal> please, there is another problem with running x module components...
[22:49] <genii> !install | Skrot-
[22:49] <genii> Skrot-: The first link there has different methods
[22:50] <Skrot-> great. DVD is broken and Ive formatted my old partitions
[22:50] <StR|Sangreal> in my own world its getting worse... how can i reboot the x server?
[22:50] <UbuNoo1> !Players
[22:51] <StR|Sangreal> btw is ubottu a bot?
[22:52] <genii> StR|Sangreal: The dirty way should be ctrl-alt-backspace. The proper way would be logout, choose "Restart X Server" in login screen menu
[22:52] <Matisse> no
[22:52] <genii> StR|Sangreal: Yes, ubottu is a bot
[22:54] <StR|Sangreal> genii, to introduce my problem: i have probably started an update to 8.10, changed repositories and asked my adept to update
[22:54] <StR|Sangreal> after trying to install some packages, he claimed that sth cannot be installed until i reboot x
[22:55] <StR|Sangreal> but the setup itself goes on
[22:55] <StR|Sangreal> what would you recommend me to do?
[22:55] <genii> StR|Sangreal: did it say "restart X"   or just something like "reboot"   they are two different things
[22:55] <StR|Sangreal> restart
[22:56] <genii> StR|Sangreal: Then you can use the way I said
[22:56] <StR|Sangreal> it said some thinx like kdm, xdm will only do sth if i restart x
[22:56] <genii> StR|Sangreal: But if it's continuing on , wait til it's done.
[22:56] <StR|Sangreal> but i am afraid of breaking the process of setup of other things
[22:56] <genii> StR|Sangreal: That is only the login manager. No worries
[22:57] <StR|Sangreal> ok, the update went wrong
[22:57] <Skrot-> is the live USB system creator supposed to be bundled with the live cd?
[22:57] <StR|Sangreal> probably cuz i havent restarted at the proper point
[22:57] <StR|Sangreal> what shall i do?
[22:58] <genii> Skrot-: Yes, with 8.10 it is
[22:58] <Skrot-> genii: Whats the exec called?
[22:58] <UbuNoo1> Sangreal - On the Hardware tab of Sound System Settings, I changed the "Select the audio device" from autodetect to "ALSA" -- It then tried to restart the sound system but seems to be an infinite loop. (Progress bar reaches 100%, and starts over at 0%)
[22:58] <genii> Skrot-: I don't know offhand
[22:58] <Skrot-> genii: how about where to start it from using GUI?
[22:59] <genii> StR|Sangreal: What error or so is it saying?
[22:59] <StR|Sangreal> wait pls
[22:59] <UbuNoo1> Sangreal - no pblm.
[22:59] <genii> Skrot-: I think unetbootin perhaps
[22:59] <StR|Sangreal> first of all i have some yet not understood troubles
[22:59] <StR|Sangreal> i have accidentally launched katapult
[23:00] <Skrot-> genii: I have no such executable
[23:00] <StR|Sangreal> i have no clue what it does... except that i see that my notebook doesnt recognize the accumulator
[23:00] <StR|Sangreal> and icons in the main menu have disappeared
[23:00] <StR|Sangreal> genii, what should i do?
[23:01] <genii> Skrot-: Let me finish with StR|Sangreal first please
[23:01] <Skrot-> sure, np :(
[23:01] <Skrot-> err, :)
[23:01] <Skrot-> not that used to the english keyboard layout
[23:01] <zumran> hi, is there a way to run .exe files in ubuntu, ...i am new to ubuntu and linux
[23:02] <StR|Sangreal> wine
[23:02] <BluesKaj> !wine | zumran
[23:02] <genii> StR|Sangreal: These issues are likely due to the method you did of upgrading instead of the regular way
[23:02] <StR|Sangreal> if you have wine properly installed and configured, it will execute automatically
[23:02] <zumran> where can i download wine
[23:03] <StR|Sangreal> sudo apt-get install wine
[23:03] <hyper_ch> zumran: what windows program do you think you need?
[23:04] <StR|Sangreal> hyper_ch, let him be
[23:04] <zumran> ms office @ hyper_ch
[23:04] <hyper_ch> zumran: what for?
[23:04] <StR|Sangreal> well
[23:04] <StR|Sangreal> sorry, hyper_ch
[23:04] <StR|Sangreal> use openoffice instead :)
[23:04] <hyper_ch> StR|Sangreal: :)
[23:05] <zumran> for working with documents @hyper
[23:05] <hyper_ch> OOo is much better at consistent formatting and structuring of documents
[23:05] <StR|Sangreal> sudo apt-get install openoffice
[23:05] <StR|Sangreal> :)
[23:05] <StR|Sangreal> you will like it
[23:05] <genii> StR|Sangreal: Does ctrl-alt-f1 gain you a console screen?
[23:05] <hyper_ch> took me like 4h to style my master thesis
[23:05] <StR|Sangreal> you mean tty?
[23:05] <genii> StR|Sangreal: Yes
[23:05] <StR|Sangreal> sure
[23:06] <hyper_ch> genii: ctrl+alt+ [F1-F6] and F7 is back at the "normal" desktop
[23:06] <StR|Sangreal> i can run all ttys except on tty7 where x runs
[23:06] <genii> hyper_ch: Yes, I know. Thanks for the extended explanation
[23:06] <genii> StR|Sangreal: I would suggest to try the !aptfix
[23:07] <StR|Sangreal> i think that my installation went pretty wrong
[23:07] <cantropy> hello, I have just installed Kubuntu 8.10 and am using the default xorg.conf, there are some strange refresh problems. especially in gtk applications like Firefox
[23:07] <StR|Sangreal> !aptfix
[23:07] <zumran> ok ive installed wine, now can i use it to launch an exe file?
[23:08] <StR|Sangreal> first install ooo :)
[23:08] <hyper_ch> zumran: any reason you don't want to use openoffice?
[23:08] <BluesKaj> StR|Sangreal , for ppl new to linux , telling them to sud apt-get an app can be confusing ...perhaps explaining that the konsole should be used with the commands will help.
[23:08] <StR|Sangreal> but, it should :)
[23:08] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: if they don't understand, then they can ask
[23:08] <zumran> im just used to ms office nothing else i already have oppen office installed
[23:09] <genii> StR|Sangreal: Since the gui update is still working we need to kill the lockfile, etc this way to try and get it going again
[23:09] <StR|Sangreal> well, the man has successfully installed wine hence he is fine with that
[23:09] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch , they may not know enough to ask
[23:09] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: yet they have been capable of installing Linux?
[23:09] <BluesKaj> we don't need to discoutrage ppl here
[23:10] <StR|Sangreal> BluesKaj, you are right, but i am rather busy with my problem :(
[23:10] <UbuNoo1> zumran: What version of Office do you use?? OOffice is nearly identically to MS Office 2003 and before.
[23:10] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch , if ppl are here to help then a full expalnation is in order
[23:10] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: IMHO if someone is capable of installing Linux then I do credit them and think they are also capable of asking for help
[23:10] <zumran> i think its version 2
[23:11] <genii> StR|Sangreal: Is it chugging away noe on the --reconfigure   ?
[23:11] <cantropy> has anybody has refresh problems in firefox? like when the Alt-F1 menu is popped up, it flickers with a weird line for an instant but later on refreshes okay.
[23:11] <genii> *now
[23:11] <StR|Sangreal> genii,
[23:11] <BluesKaj> they ask for help but not getting proper instructions can be discoutraging
[23:11] <StR|Sangreal> i am fully lost right now
[23:11] <UbuNoo1> zumran - Are you using MS Office 2007?
[23:11] <StR|Sangreal> i didnt make anything since adept failed
[23:11] <BluesKaj> hmm my KB seems to be sticking again ...coffee
[23:12] <StR|Sangreal> so you know my recent state
[23:12] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: you may think of them as helpless... I rather think of them as eager to explore
[23:12] <zumran> @ubunoo1 yes
[23:12] <genii> StR|Sangreal: Since the X terminal is unresponsive, we are currently trying to unlock the package system, then to tell it to finish configuring everything that was pending.
[23:12] <BluesKaj> no i don't think of them as helpless , pls don't assume stuff
[23:12] <hyper_ch> I don't think MSO '07 runs in wine
[23:12] <zumran> ok....how do i use wine to run a file???
[23:12] <StR|Sangreal> me neither
[23:12] <StR|Sangreal> okay, genii
[23:13] <hyper_ch> zumran: wine /path/to/file.exe
[23:13] <StR|Sangreal> what shall i execute?
[23:13] <StR|Sangreal> should i reboot the x session?
[23:13] <StR|Sangreal> restart
[23:13] <genii> zumran: Usually if you select an exe from in the file manager it will want to use wine as the default app to ruin it with
[23:13] <genii> *run    ;)
[23:13] <zumran> ok thanks
[23:13] <BluesKaj> bbl
[23:13] <cantropy> does anyone see strange refresh update problems in kubuntu? Any pointers on what I could check? I think the integrated Intel graphics card has been installed properly.
[23:14] <StR|Sangreal> BluesKaj, that was an exceptional kindness towards the newbie :)
[23:14] <zumran> ok i have a question
[23:14] <genii> StR|Sangreal: In the tty screen on ctrl-alt-f1       to do the instruction provided by the bot
[23:14] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: well, I think if they don't understand something they can ask... you think if they don't understand anything then they can't ask... so IMHO I think you consider them as helpless
[23:14] <StR|Sangreal> and those are pls?
[23:14] <zumran> is it possible to browse the linux partition in windows???
[23:14] <StR|Sangreal> yes
[23:14] <zumran> how
[23:14] <StR|Sangreal> eg download ext2 plugin for total commander
[23:14] <genii> StR|Sangreal: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:14] <StR|Sangreal> can i copy it into a kind of clipboard or do i have to memorize?
[23:15] <UbuNoo1> cantropy - I haven't... What version of kubuntu are you running?
[23:15] <hyper_ch> there's an ext2 plugin for TC? wow... if I'd known that while I still had a windows partition....
[23:15] <genii> zumran: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[23:15] <cantropy> UbuNoo1: 8.10 I have checked glxgears etc. get about 550 fps
[23:15] <StR|Sangreal> genii?
[23:16] <hyper_ch> cantropy: what videocard?
[23:16] <genii> StR|Sangreal: The command?
[23:16] <StR|Sangreal> yes
[23:16] <cantropy> its the Intel E3100
[23:16] <UbuNoo1> I'm running 8.04.. Started with 8.10; ran into pblms, and installed 8.04.
[23:16] <genii> StR|Sangreal: You are currently using the box which is problemmatic to be here in irc?
[23:16] <zumran> do i have to install total commander in windows
[23:16] <josh_> i how do change my X Configuration file from the KDE GUI?
[23:17] <josh_> im messing with Duel Monitor support
[23:17] <StR|Sangreal> genii, i do not understand your questions
[23:17] <cantropy> I recall reading recently that there was some issue with the graphics driver and that I might need to wait for kernel .28
[23:17] <josh_> i need SU Status
[23:17] <josh_> or something
[23:17] <hyper_ch> zumran: just install this here:  http://www.fs-driver.org/download/Ext2IFS_1_11a.exe
[23:17] <StR|Sangreal> some kde features are going wrong but except that i can do most of things regularly
[23:17] <StR|Sangreal> what box?
[23:17] <Skrot-> computer, StR|Sangreal
[23:17] <cantropy> UbuNoo1: what problems did you get?
[23:17] <genii> StR|Sangreal: The computer which is being updated, is it the same computer you are using right now talking to us with?
[23:18] <hyper_ch> cantropy: 8.10 won't feature a .28 kernel
[23:18] <StR|Sangreal> yes
[23:18] <cantropy> hyper_ch: I meant the 2.6.28
[23:18] <genii> StR|Sangreal: So then your X is not entirely locked up or so
[23:18] <hyper_ch> cantropy: that's what I was refering to as well
[23:18] <StR|Sangreal> no
[23:19] <genii> StR|Sangreal: In this case, open Konsole. Then copy the command from here to Konsole and run it there.
[23:19] <josh_> somebody please, how do i get Sudo Status to change my Ress  under Nvidia X Server Settings so i can save the new changes to my  ( X Config File )
[23:19] <zumran> ttp://www.fs-driver.org/download/Ext2IFS_1_11a.exe - - should i install this in windows
[23:19] <cantropy> hyper_ch: okay, that means, I would have to wait until April for the next installment of Kubuntu
[23:19] <hyper_ch> josh_: kdesu nvidia-settings
[23:20] <josh_> thanks Hyper XD
[23:20] <hyper_ch> cantropy: the next release is already available as alpha 2
[23:20] <hyper_ch> cantropy: might be that someone backports the 28 kernel - but I doubt it
[23:20] <BluesKaj> zumran, yes
[23:20] <genii> zumran: I would recommend that as the solution to viewing your linux partitions under windows, yes
[23:20] <StR|Sangreal> i am losing on computing potential
[23:20] <zumran> ok thanks
[23:21] <StR|Sangreal> probably some dying processes are hanging on
[23:21] <cantropy> hyper_ch: thanks, but I want to get comfortable with tinkering things before I am comfortable using a non release version.
[23:21] <hyper_ch> StR|Sangreal: got htop installed?
[23:21] <StR|Sangreal> no clue
[23:21] <hyper_ch> cantropy: wise choice :)
[23:21] <genii> StR|Sangreal: What happened during the update. Did it stop with some error you could say to us? Is it still going? etc
[23:21] <cantropy> hyper_ch: thank u :)
[23:21] <hyper_ch> StR|Sangreal: sudo apt-get install htop     and then run  "htop" in the terminal
[23:22] <hyper_ch> StR|Sangreal: sorry, update still in progress for you... then this won't work
[23:22] <zumran> what if i want to cut and copy files from one partition to another, i know its possible in linux what will it be possible in windows with that program?
[23:23] <StR|Sangreal> okay to refer to my state... i changed repositories, let auto updates proceed... some components corrupted whence x ran; then the install completed with saying some of the packages couldnt be installed
[23:24] <StR|Sangreal> now i have killed the daemon that remained after those updates
[23:24] <StR|Sangreal> dpkg is still running
[23:24] <genii> zumran: The driver there allows for write to ext3 and ext2, so yes
[23:24] <StR|Sangreal> is there sth more i could reveal to solve my problem?
[23:25] <StR|Sangreal> btw in 40 hours i have an important exam whence i would like to end with this as soon as possible
[23:25] <genii> StR|Sangreal: Since your computer is not locked up or so, suggest to reboot it. Then to try running update again.
[23:26] <StR|Sangreal> dont you thing some installed things may collide with some not installed ones?
[23:26] <StR|Sangreal> dpkg completed
[23:27] <genii> StR|Sangreal: If you have problems when next boot into newest kernel, try boot into the previous kernel
[23:27] <StR|Sangreal> ok
[23:28] <genii> Hmm. Perhaps you were just impatient
[23:28] <StR|Sangreal> anything else i should now?
[23:28] <StR|Sangreal> know
[23:28] <cantropy> thanks all, bye ...
[23:29] <StR|Sangreal> (well its quite late in sk ...)
[23:29] <genii> StR|Sangreal: Try in Konsole:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade                 and say if it has some problem
[23:29] <genii> If a very long output then use pastebin
[23:29] <genii> !paste
[23:30] <StR|Sangreal> vladislav@vladislav-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get update
[23:30] <StR|Sangreal> Hit http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release.gpg
[23:30] <StR|Sangreal> Hit http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Translation-sk
[23:30] <StR|Sangreal> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com intrepid-security Release.gpg
[23:30] <StR|Sangreal> Ign http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/restricted Translation-sk
[23:30] <StR|Sangreal> Hit http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Translation-sk
[23:31] <StR|Sangreal> Get: 1 http://archive.canonical.com intrepid Release.gpg [189B]
[23:31] <StR|Sangreal> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/main Translation-sk
[23:31] <StR|Sangreal> Hit http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/multiverse Translation-sk
[23:31] <StR|Sangreal> Hit http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates Release.gpg
[23:31] <StR|Sangreal> Ign http://archive.canonical.com intrepid/partner Translation-sk
[23:31] <StR|Sangreal> Hit http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/main Translation-sk
[23:31] <StR|Sangreal> and so
[23:31] <genii> stR
[23:31] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | StR|Sangreal
[23:31] <genii> Bah
[23:31] <StR|Sangreal> what does it mean?
[23:32] <genii> StR|Sangreal: Please use the pastebin as I told you if it is more than 2 or 3 lines!!
[23:32] <StR|Sangreal> i am sorry
[23:32] <LeeJunFan> KDE4 ticked me off so much I switched to Gnome. Gnome bored me so much I switched back.
[23:32] <genii> StR|Sangreal: So far, nothing extraordinary. This is just getting the lists
[23:33] <genii> StR|Sangreal: The: sudo apt-get upgrade                      result is what we are interested in
[23:35] <genii> StR|Sangreal: Does it give some error, or does it say a bunch of packages can be upgraded, or does it say "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.", or something else entirely different? etc
[23:35] <StR|Sangreal> some packages have corrupted dependancies
[23:36] <genii> OK. At least thats informative
[23:36] <StR|Sangreal> most of them are related to amarok
[23:36] <StR|Sangreal> i disable its service and retry
[23:36] <StR|Sangreal> didnt help
[23:37] <genii> StR|Sangreal: Thats because it doesn't matter if its running or not, but rather if it's installed. It will try to upgrade whatever you have installed, whether it's running or not.
[23:37] <Zehava> Isn't there a GUI for altering things like your java class path for kubuntu?
[23:37] <genii> Away a few minutes
[23:37] <StR|Sangreal> would it help if i terminated x, and then in tty called apt-get update and apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[23:38] <StR|Sangreal> ok i try rebooting
[23:43] <genii> Back
[23:43] <carlo> hello
[23:44] <genii> Skrot-: Have you looked at pendrivelinux  instructions for making a bootable usb install ? They have there from livecd, however same method can be used from existing install.
[23:49] <Zehava> How can I change my java path globaly please
[23:52] <UbuNoo1> webpigeon - Can installing Pulseaudio solve my problem, given that sound isn't working currently?? I should be able to get sound working without pulseaudio, right?
[23:56] <BluesKaj> UbuNoo1 , yes ..have you tried alsa ?
[23:58] <UbuNoo1> Yeah... Actually, ALSA is not working.
[23:58] <UbuNoo1> alsamixer says everything is "on", and volumes are up.
[23:59] <UbuNoo1> System Settings -- Sound System -- Hardware tab -- Select audio device -- autodetect.  Tried changing autodetect to ALSA, but the Sound System is not able to restart when it tries to.


[14:14] <lukjad86> Hi, is anyone here familiar with ksplice? I'm planning on writing an article on it and would like some documentation.
[16:07] <lukjad86> Can anyone tell me what they think about my new wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ksplice


[00:24] <vb> hello
[00:24] <vb> anyone using dell d610?
[00:24] <vb> i'm having issues installing lubuntu
[00:29] <TheLordOfTime> !details
[00:29] <vb> for me?
[00:29] <vb> are you willing to help?
[00:30] <TheLordOfTime> i'm saying nobody will help you if you don't explain what "issues" you're having.
[00:30] <vb> well, not booting, frozen loading screen, i have to run with acpi off
[00:35] <vb> i am trying to install it and i get ubi-partman exit error 10
[00:36] <vb> i managed to get lubuntu working from usb with acpi off, but i can't install it on hdd
[00:40] <bennypr0fane> vb what's acpi?
[00:44] <Analogymous> @vb I just succeeded in installing Lubuntu after days of installation issues while trying to install on my HP's hdd from 2002
[00:44] <Analogymous> Download and try with the alternate ISO
[00:45] <Analogymous> That's what I did, it's recommendable if your Dell laptop has less than 700mb RAM which my desktop HP has :)
[00:46] <Analogymous> Not saying it will solve it, but the graphical installer on lubuntu 12.10 release was the reason for my problem!
[00:46] <Analogymous> Good luck!!
[04:54] <Mopeyennui> Hello. I am using 12.04. Where is the color scheme selection options?
[16:36] <bennypr0fane> Hello, I want my Lubuntu computer to forward its internet connection to another pc. It has 2 ethernet cards, one where the connection comes in, and another where the connection is supposed to go to the other pc. How can I configure that?
[16:38] <bennypr0fane> here's my ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/YH4LSnHd
[16:39] <holstein> bennypr0fane: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing is what i would look at
[16:55] <bennypr0fane> holstein, there are a few methods listed, I'm not sure which one applies for me. I'm on 12.04 - but everything wired. The method listed for 12.04 describes a wireless setup though
[16:56] <holstein> bennypr0fane: should be the same.. i might search around for how to set up a router with ubuntu
[16:56] <bennypr0fane> I tried this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing#GUI_Method_via_Network_Manager_.28Ubuntu_9.10_and_up.29
[16:56] <bennypr0fane> didn't work - after reboot, my internet connection was down
[16:57] <holstein> bennypr0fane: i might even look for a live CD that is a router, and see how that is setup
[16:57] <bennypr0fane> meaning the one from the Lubuntu pc to the router
[16:57] <bennypr0fane> why a router? I don't understand
[17:00] <holstein> bennypr0fane: you are making a router.. basically
[17:00] <bennypr0fane> ok
[17:00] <holstein> bennypr0fane: you buy a router.. its likely runing linux, and doing what you are trying to do
[17:01] <holstein> bennypr0fane: out of the box, *buntu is setup to be a deskop OS (not counting ubuntu server)
[17:01] <bennypr0fane> I see. Looking at this now: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing#Ubuntu_Internet_Gateway_Method_.28iptables.29
[17:01] <holstein> bennypr0fane: i have, in main ubuntu10.04 setup what you are trying to do.. and in mint.. but not in anything running LXDE
[17:01] <bennypr0fane> how can I tell which of my adapters in ifconf output i sthe one with internet
[17:02] <holstein> bennypr0fane: i think, with a certain GUI, it should be quite easy
[17:02] <holstein> bennypr0fane: i would make backups, and try both... test and re-test
[17:02] <bennypr0fane> indeed it should be easy
[17:02] <bennypr0fane> you mean backups of my network settings?
[17:04] <bennypr0fane> holstein how did you configure your Linux Mint and Ubuntu setups?
[17:05] <holstein> bennypr0fane: i literally clicked in the gui.. in the network managers of said distros.. nothing that is going to be directly helpful for you
[17:05] <bennypr0fane> but isn't network manager the same for Ubuntu?
[17:05] <holstein> bennypr0fane: though, it might help to fire up something that will "just work" out of the box.. and see how its done there... or have it create a config for you you can copy and use
[17:06] <holstein> bennypr0fane: you would think.. but im not sure, and havent tried this in recent version of ubuntu
[17:06] <holstein> bennypr0fane: i dont have a handy machine with 2 NIC's or id try it
[17:07] <bennypr0fane> well I tried the clicks that were described for my GUI, but didn't work :-(
[17:08] <holstein> bennypr0fane: in what way?
[17:08] <holstein> bennypr0fane: are you sure the NICs are going to work?
[17:09] <holstein> i might try and test them one at a time... make sure they are supported and working
[17:10] <bennypr0fane> I have done this on the same PC a long time ago under Windows
[17:10] <bennypr0fane> so the hardware should be fine
[17:10] <bennypr0fane> just never tested it under Linux
[17:10] <holstein> bennypr0fane: i never trust should
[17:11] <holstein> bennypr0fane: im not only talking about the hardware.. im talking about the driver support in windows
[17:11] <bennypr0fane> If I get an I-net connection plugging the cable into the 2nd NIC, it should work, right?
[17:11] <holstein> bennypr0fane: i might like to see both nic's working in linux seperately.. then i would know
[17:11] <bennypr0fane> you have a funny way of talking
[17:11] <holstein> bennypr0fane: i would think so... but im not sure
[17:35] <bennypr0fane> holstein, I did it. The network manager GUI instructions did work after all. I just should have performed them on the other adapter. Maybe also switching the cables was necessary, but I think not
[17:35] <bennypr0fane> thanks!
[17:36] <holstein> bennypr0fane: cheers!
[17:57] <WAlbenzi> I have not found an answer to this: If I place a desktop file in the folder ~($user)/Desktop, how can I get it show up without logging out (restart service, etc).  It seems to happen in Lubuntu11.10 but not Lubuntu12.04
[18:07] <WAlbenzi> Interesting: I was wrong, it works in different deployment of the same OS.
[23:44] <mopeyennui> Help requested.


[00:12] <pleia2> "Update, Feb. 5, 2015, 5:55 p.m.: After this article appeared, Werner Koch informed us that last week he was awarded a one-time grant of $60,000 from  Linux Foundation's Core Infrastructure Initiative. "
[00:12] <pleia2> guess I spoke to soon re: CII :)
[06:39] <SilverLion> good $daytime for you
[07:28] <dholbach> good morning
[07:44] <SilverLion> good morning dholbach
[07:51] <dholbach> hi SilverLion
[08:55]  * dholbach → dentist
[09:33] <elfy> morning
[09:44] <SilverLion> good morning elfy
[09:44] <SilverLion> and cu later ^^
[10:34] <popey> MORNING!
[10:34] <elfy> quietly ...
[10:34] <elfy> I'm working on a headache :p
[16:58] <dholbach> all right my friends - let the celebrations continue! see you next week! :-D
[17:05] <mhall119> have a good one


[03:16] <dewman> mrand, have you had any luck with getting any digital music channels?
[03:16] <dewman> with the hdhr scan?
[03:18] <dewman> freaking jamu... seems it has crashed 3 times in the past hour....Think its time to figure out how to remove it.
[03:18] <dewman> or disable it.
[04:39] <rhpot1991> dewman: check silicon dust's website and it will tell you what channels you can get
[04:39] <rhpot1991> those silly music channels are normally available
[09:42] <skiwithpete> ola
[09:42] <skiwithpete> I need help, anyone around?
[09:44] <skiwithpete>  I've just installed myth - and through all the trouble shooting, discovered that mysql is not running
[09:45] <skiwithpete> Oh, yeah, I'm running XFCE
[09:47] <skiwithpete> ...
[09:48] <skiwithpete> dammit, living in NZ means there's never anyone here
[09:55]  * skiwithpete twiddles thumbs
[10:04] <skiwithpete> hey
[10:46] <skiwithpete> ... I fixed the database problem by installing mysql-server
[10:46] <skiwithpete> but now i can't get mythweb to work :(
[11:26] <Lala_Chersi> hi there i ve installed myth tv in ubuntu cant set it right for my tv card ... any ideas
[11:30] <DaveMorris1> which card have you got
[11:30] <DaveMorris1> and how have you set it up?
[11:34] <Lala_Chersi> well i ve got msi tv@ny where plus .... internal tv card
[13:16] <DaveMorris1> Lala_Chersi: sorry for the delay, meetings at work
[13:17] <DaveMorris1> Have you got it to work in Ubuntu outside of MythTV to make sure you have the correct drivers etc?
[13:17] <DaveMorris1> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linuxquestions-org-member-success-stories-23/linux-mint-3-0-msi-tv%40nywhere-great-success-579640/ has someone doing it on mint (which is very similar to Ubuntu)
[13:20] <Lala_Chersi> DaveMorrisl : yeah it works on xawtv
[15:10] <mrand> dewman, I actually haven't played around with higher numbered channels yet.  I've got some HDMI audio (and video, for that matter) problems I'm more focused on with the few spare minutes a week that I have.
[15:24] <qwebirc28476> Hello, I have Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.80GHz old computer that I would like to use with Mythbuntu for my home setup with Comcast digital cable. I’m new to this and don’t know what kind of hardware I should additionally to buy to make it happen, and what the setup should be. Can you help with this?
[15:26] <rhpot1991> qwebirc28476: HD or SD video?
[15:27] <Patrickdk> heh, that will only do SD
[15:27] <rhpot1991> Patrickdk: unless he adds a VDPAU capable card
[15:27] <Patrickdk> I don't think he can, it should only be agp
[15:28] <rhpot1991> pci
[15:28] <Patrickdk> they make them in pci? heh, how evil
[15:29] <rhpot1991> harder to find, but they do exist
[15:29] <rhpot1991> not sure anything in the current gen, but something that will do vdpau at least
[15:30] <Patrickdk> well, I picked the gt2xx series for it
[15:30] <Patrickdk> cause others have strange bugs
[15:30] <Patrickdk> and before the gt[345]xx came out
[15:31] <Patrickdk> then testing vdpau, I found I didn't really like using it at all
[15:31] <rhpot1991> odd
[15:31] <rhpot1991> its pretty easy to enable and use, I wouldn't build anything without it anymore
[15:31] <Patrickdk> it can't play back any video I throw at it, without going nuts every few min
[15:32] <rhpot1991> define going nuts
[15:32] <Patrickdk> throwing crap all over the screen from decode errors
[15:32] <rhpot1991> did you try some of the tweaks on the wiki page?
[15:32] <Patrickdk> using atsc sources, and good outputs from ffmpeg/x264
[15:32] <rhpot1991> !vdpau
[15:32] <Zinn> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU
[15:33] <Patrickdk> hmm, looks to be some new options
[15:33] <Patrickdk> this was 2 years ago, I think
[15:33] <Patrickdk> got a gt240 when it just came out pretty much
[15:34] <rhpot1991> Artifacts
[15:34] <rhpot1991> Adding "vdpaubuffersize=32" (or higher: eg. 42 works well for the Zotac HD-ID11 box) in the list of filters in Playback Settings may help with artifacts during playback.
[15:34] <rhpot1991> then the xorg tweaks on there are good to make too
[15:34] <Patrickdk> ya, I don't see anything different in xorg settings
[15:35] <rhpot1991>  Option         "TripleBuffer" "True"
[15:35] <rhpot1991> Section "Extensions"
[15:35] <rhpot1991>        Option "Composite" "Disable"
[15:35] <rhpot1991>    EndSection
[15:35] <Patrickdk> have that
[15:35] <Patrickdk> guess I will have to test with the filters
[15:36] <rhpot1991> Patrickdk: I think that 240 can do vdpau high, you might want to try vdpau normal if you having issues though
[15:37]  * Patrickdk notes a 1090T cpu plays back everything good though :)
[15:37] <rhpot1991> Patrickdk: ya you may not need it, but its a nice option to have
[15:38] <rhpot1991> I offload everything to my 9600 so I can free up my athlon x2 for other stuff
[15:38] <rhpot1991> then things like an ion you wouldn't want to cpu that :)
[15:38] <Patrickdk> well, I plan to use this for a frontend soon
[15:38] <Patrickdk> haven't got the cables yet though
[15:38] <Patrickdk> and decommission my c2d 2.8ghz frontend
[15:38] <Patrickdk> it can play pretty much everything except 1080p
[15:39] <Patrickdk> atleast not >10mbit
[15:46] <rhpot1991> Patrickdk: vdpau can prob help you there
[15:47] <Patrickdk> yep
[15:47] <Patrickdk> but the purpose I got the 1090T for was to dump that system :)
[15:47] <Patrickdk> just need to get the hdmi wires ran from it to the tv, audio connected
[15:48] <Patrickdk> and then reconfigure this to run mythtv on a seperate x screen for it
[15:48] <Patrickdk> then figure out how to handle different keyboard inputs to different x screens
[19:28] <Wicked> hello all. Im running ubuntu 10.04 with mythtv with a pvr-150 and im using the pvr-150's blaster to change channels. Recently due to all the changes going on regarding the kernel/lirc module the blaster uses...its been a hude pita to get it working. But yesterday ubuntu updated lirc which totally broke it for me. I was able to downgrade lirc and reply the "zilog" patch and reconfigure lirc to work
[19:28] <Wicked> again.
[19:28] <Wicked> but now im worried this next update will break it again for good
[19:30] <Wicked> this is the directions ive been using to get the blaster working: http://notepad.bobkmertz.com/2010/06/pvr-150-ir-blaster-on-mythbuntu-1004.html
[19:30] <Zinn> [notepad.bobkmertz.com] Bob's Notepad: PVR-150 IR Blaster on MythBuntu 10.04
[19:35] <rhpot1991> Wicked: if you specify the lirc module as lirc_zilog it doesn't help?
[19:35] <Wicked> well. as of current...i need to do what i posted in that link. Last i checked lirc_zilog was not in the ubuntu kernel
[19:36] <Wicked> so i would need to get the lirc source and use a zilog patch...recompile...then load the module
[19:36] <rhpot1991> I thought that it was
[19:36] <Wicked> im just worried that another change in the kernel/lirc will break it for good...leaving my myth setup useless if it cannot change channels
[19:36] <rhpot1991> unless I'm thinking about something else that had a z in it
[19:36] <Wicked> well. when i set up this box a few months ago im 98% sure it was not.
[19:37] <Wicked> i had a hella time getting it working
[19:38] <Wicked> hmm
[19:49] <Patrickdk> 10.04 should use the old way to set it up
[19:49] <Patrickdk> 10.10 uses the new control system
[19:51] <Wicked> what exactly do you mean the "old way"
[19:52] <Patrickdk> the ir stuff hasn't changed for ever, except between 10.04 and 10.10
[19:52] <Patrickdk> so 10.04 uses what almost all web documentation says
[19:53] <rhpot1991> in 10.10 a lot of things started to go kernel module based instead of lirc
[19:53] <Wicked> hmm. i just know i had a really hard time figuring out how to setup my blaster.
[19:54] <Wicked> ive been using this pvr-150 for like ~3-4 years and the way i had always set it up didnt work with 10.04
[19:54] <Wicked> something to do with changes in the kernel modules and stuff
[19:54] <Wicked> the module also changed to "lirc_zilog"
[19:55] <rhpot1991> sorry they started to move to input layer modules, I shoulda been more clear
[19:56] <Wicked> im updating the machine now and gonna reboot to the new kernel and pray the new kernel has what i need lol
[19:57] <Wicked> it would be awesome to have it all back in the kernel by default...so i wont have to worry/much around on each kernel/lirc update
[19:57] <Patrickdk> heh? what kernel are you using?
[19:57] <Wicked> stock
[19:58] <Wicked> Linux Core 2.6.32-27-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 00:51:09 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:58] <Wicked> and just updated and about to reboot
[19:59] <Wicked> theres my other nick(Kernel)....need to reboot the box that runs myth and has my bouncer running.
[20:02] <Kernel> ..and crap. modinfo lirc_zilog
[20:02] <Kernel> ERROR: modinfo: could not find module lirc_zilog
[20:02] <Kernel> on the new kernel
[20:02] <Kernel> :|
[20:03] <Kernel> So.... any ideas on how i can get this working again?
[20:04] <rhpot1991> john@ultramagnus:~$ modinfo lirc_zilog
[20:04] <rhpot1991> filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.35-24-generic/kernel/drivers/staging/lirc/lirc_zilog.ko
[20:04] <rhpot1991> john@ultramagnus:~$ uname -a
[20:04] <rhpot1991> Linux ultramagnus 2.6.35-24-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 02:41:37 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:04] <rhpot1991> its in 10.10
[20:04] <Kernel> yea. but not 10.04.
[20:05] <rhpot1991> might be worth checking to see if its been backported
[20:05] <Kernel> and getting it installed was a total pita
[20:05] <Kernel> 10.04 that is....i had alot of issues...and im not really looking to upgrade.
[20:05] <Kernel> hmm
[20:05] <Patrickdk> you can just upgrade the kernel in 10.04
[20:05] <Wicked> back to my old nick
[20:06] <Wicked> Patrickdk, to a 10.10 kernel?
[20:06] <rhpot1991> Patrickdk: shouldn't be kernel here, lirc I think
[20:06] <Wicked> id really prefer to keep things as stock at possible. i hate modifying things then having to manually track updates
[20:07] <rhpot1991> no wrong, thats in the kernel
[20:07] <rhpot1991> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=lirc_zilog.ko&mode=exactfilename&suite=maverick&arch=any
[20:07] <Zinn> [packages.ubuntu.com] Ubuntu -- Package Contents Search Results -- lirc_zilog.ko
[20:07] <Patrickdk> ya, that is what ppa's are for :)
[20:07] <Wicked> hmm
[20:07] <Patrickdk> there is a *newer* kernel ppa for lucid
[20:07] <Patrickdk> I don't remember what it is, other than a guy needing it last week
[20:07] <Patrickdk> so I know it exists
[20:08] <Wicked> hmm. is it done buy the ubuntu team? or some 3rd party?
[20:09] <rhpot1991> Wicked: what kernel are you on?
[20:10] <Wicked> Linux Core 2.6.32-28-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 10 23:42:43 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:10] <Wicked> on 10.04
[20:11] <rhpot1991> looks like its in a kernel in lucid-updates: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=lirc_zilog.ko&mode=exactfilename&suite=lucid-updates&arch=any
[20:11] <Zinn> [packages.ubuntu.com] Ubuntu -- Package Contents Search Results -- lirc_zilog.ko
[20:12] <Wicked> hmm
[20:12] <Wicked> lucid-updates is like bleeding edge packages?
[20:12] <Wicked> i really dont want my system to be unstable.
[20:12] <Wicked> i chose 10.04 because its stable and is LTS
[20:12] <rhpot1991> no, that should be on by default
[20:13] <Wicked> oh hmm
[20:13] <Patrickdk> man, you just want everything :)
[20:13] <Wicked> Patrickdk, i do! :)
[20:13] <rhpot1991> you may need to dist-upgrade to pull the new kernel or something
[20:13] <Wicked> i do see it in a aptitude search
[20:13] <Patrickdk> you will
[20:13] <Wicked> so
[20:13] <Wicked> maybe i can just install the new kernel via apt?
[20:13] <Wicked> hopefully it wont break much
[20:13] <rhpot1991> if you sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:13] <rhpot1991> it should pull it
[20:14] <Wicked> linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic
[20:14] <rhpot1991> along with ay other updates available
[20:14] <Wicked> hmm
[20:14] <Wicked> i thought dist-upgrade was for switching between releases
[20:14] <rhpot1991> or just specify you want that specific kernel whatever way you are confortable with
[20:14] <rhpot1991> no
[20:14] <Patrickdk> no
[20:14] <Wicked> apt-get dist-upgrade updates nothing
[20:14] <Wicked> so looks like ill need to manually specify the one i want
[20:15] <Patrickdk> it won't now
[20:15] <Patrickdk> it will when the kernel updates though
[20:15] <rhpot1991> dist-upgrade is for installing packages with new depends or conflicting depends
[20:15] <Patrickdk> kernels only install on dist-upgrade
[20:15] <Patrickdk> other things do on upgrade
[20:15] <Wicked> hmm.
[20:15] <Wicked> i normally use aptitude
[20:15] <rhpot1991> Wicked: if it didn't pull it you may need to specify that kernel then
[20:15] <Wicked> but aptitude upgrade just installed a new kenrel
[20:15] <rhpot1991> Wicked: just do that in aptitude then
[20:15] <Wicked> ok. let me install the new kernel
[20:15] <Patrickdk> apt-get upgrade is equiv to aptitude safe-upgrade
[20:16] <rhpot1991> Wicked: make sure it pulls any modules that match and so on
[20:16] <Patrickdk> and apt-get dist-upgrade is like aptitude ..
[20:16] <rhpot1991> dpkg -l |grep linux-image
[20:16] <rhpot1991> and make sure they match up with your current packages
[20:16] <Patrickdk> aptitude full-upgrade
[20:16] <Wicked> ah
[20:16] <Wicked> perfect rhpot1991 ..i was just trying to figure out what other packages i would need
[20:16] <Wicked> :)
[20:26] <Kernel> ugh
[20:26] <Kernel> ok so this new kernel has lirc_zilog
[20:26] <Kernel> ....but its not working
[20:26] <Kernel> the blaster is *not* changing channels
[20:27] <Kernel> nothing happens when i issue a change channel command
[20:39] <Wicked> welp this certainly sucks
[20:45] <Wicked> sometimes i really hate linux :|


[03:35] <Admiral[m]> hello. what is the name of the program that manages your network connections?
[03:35] <Admiral[m]> Connections?
[03:36] <Admiral[m]> where you add/remove networks, change their DNS etc
[03:37] <Wouldnlite> NetworkManager probably maybe, wild guess really.
[03:40] <Admiral[m]> but isn't NM the "backend". what about the GUI where you enter the stuff
[03:40] <Admiral[m]> ubuntu kubuntu , debian all use NM right?
[03:40] <Admiral[m]> and each one has their own gui to control it
[03:40] <Wouldnlite> NM-applet is the tray thingy
[03:40] <Wouldnlite> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[03:42] <Admiral[m]> What's this program called?
[03:42]  * Admiral[m] uploaded an image: image.png (66KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/banter.city/GSzgkDrTSNFtRKucUMjAcWrP >
[03:44] <Wouldnlite> IDK what its called.  I just think of it as  Network Manager in the settings panel
[03:45] <Wouldnlite> you can also use nmcli to manage Network Manager from cli
[03:47] <Admiral[m]> yeah I know I can do that but the new update with wireguard has some minor quirks
[03:48] <Admiral[m]> some things like cannot enter IPv6 addresses or hostnames in fields that should take both
[03:48] <Admiral[m]> so I want to file a bug report
[03:48] <Wouldnlite> ah.  havent got around to wireguard but it sounds beezneez
[03:52] <Wouldnlite> https://github.com/max-moser/network-manager-wireguard/
[03:53] <Wouldnlite> no commits recently...
[03:55] <Admiral[m]> the plugin works fine
[03:55] <Admiral[m]> its the GUI that is acting up
[03:56] <Admiral[m]> not acting up as in crashing
[03:56] <Admiral[m]> but acting up as in it doesnt allow me to enter things
[07:23] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:25] <Admiral[m]> I'm using x11. should I switch to wayland? I see fierce debates online about which is better
[13:33] <diogenes_> Admiral[m], my opinion is that you choose what works better for you.
[14:22] <lordievader> Is wayland already usable?
[14:23] <diogenes_> if no one cares to try and improve it then it will never be usable
[16:36] <IrcsomeBot1> Sijmen was added by: Sijmen
 Hi i got a question i want to install kubuntu on a vmware vm but got a error at bootup (Loading bootlogo... bootlogo: invalid file format Error setting up gfxboot boot:) how to fix this
 Kubuntu version 18.04.2
[17:34] <tomreyn> lordievader: i'm using it for some weeks on 18.04 now, but with gnome-shell, not sure about kde.
[17:35] <tomreyn> and it works very well, no visible issues (that i don't rather attribute to gnome-shell)
[17:36] <tomreyn> IrcsomeBot1: sounds like you have a broken iso download
[17:38] <tomreyn> also make sure your boot order is sound in vmware
[17:39] <user|71969> Hi. I'm trying to set up a proxy through kubuntu's proxy settings but there's nowhere to input authentication data. Username and password.
[17:40] <user|71969> I've tried<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:44] <tomreyn> user|71969: i think those settings you make on the KDE GUI only apply to KDE / QT applications. a better approach whould be to place these in /etc/environment (and logout, login) like so: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VnnjTRdd43/
[17:45] <tomreyn> sorry that was half german, here's the english one https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HWh2PQKV2P/
[17:46] <lordievader> tomreyn: last time I used it, couple of months ago, it wasn't quite useful ion kde
[17:47] <tomreyn> lordievader: you mean wayland + kde, right? i couldn't tell. what didn't work?
[17:51] <user|71969> where is /etc/environment?
[17:52] <user|71969> found it nvm
[17:55] <lordievader> tomreyn: yes, kde. To be honest I didn't spend a lot of time in Wayland. But the major issue was the dpi was way off. Perhaps when I have some time on my hands I'll check it out again.
[17:56] <tomreyn> oh i haven't tried playing with the dpi
[17:56] <tomreyn> nor needed to.
[18:01] <BluesKaj> wayland is missing some libs on kde/plasma
[18:03] <lordievader> Like? What do you mean?
[18:04] <BluesKaj> lordievader, someone in #kde chat told me about it a while back
[18:15] <m_tadeu_> hi....what would be the best file server on kubuntu?
[18:20] <lordievader> What are your clients?
[18:20] <m_tadeu_> all ubuntus
[18:21] <lordievader> Nfs then
[18:22] <genii> Yep
[18:23] <m_tadeu_> can you suggest me a good howto?
[18:24] <lordievader> Err, not really. Won't be surprised if Ubuntu has one.
[18:25] <m_tadeu_> ok...thx guys
[18:29] <genii> m_tadeu_: You might find this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
 Ok thanks its working
[19:16] <nekoseam> I have NO idea what's going on for some reason I only have 2.8gb of space left?? I only have a 120gb SSD but there's 0 way I could only have that much left, I don't install all that much
[19:16] <nekoseam> It seems browsing vivaldi makes me have less storage??
[19:19] <BluesKaj> nekoseam, how are you determining the amount of space used ?
[19:19] <nekoseam> wait what the actual heck?? /var/log is taking up 50gb of space
[19:20] <nekoseam> BluesKaj: partition editor and dolphin's built in thing
[19:20] <nekoseam> so wth do I do? do I delete stuff in /var/log?
[19:22] <BluesKaj>  /var/log should be using less than 1GB on a single user system
[19:22] <nekoseam> Yeah, that's an issue
[19:22] <nekoseam> Files like ufw (from the package gufw?) are taking up 15gb on their own
[19:25] <nekoseam> I'm back
[19:26] <nekoseam> Kate crashed after trying to open the file (accidentally)
[19:26] <nekoseam> lol
[19:28] <BluesKaj> I have no idea how /var/log could become so full
[19:30] <nekoseam> kern.log is taking up 18gb of space
[19:30] <nekoseam> I don't know either
[19:34] <BluesKaj> rightclick in the text >select all>delete?
[19:36] <Captain_Haddock> nekoseam: Do you also see compressed files in there? .gz or similar?
[19:38] <nekoseam> Captain_Haddock: yeah I do
[19:38] <nekoseam> but not all of them are
[19:38] <nekoseam> the compressed files are bytes in size
[19:40] <dako> Is this the place to ask noob questions?
[19:40] <BluesKaj> dako, if you're running kubuntu, yes
[19:41] <dako> Thanks. So my question is: How do I automaticly mount a drive on startup?
[19:43] <Captain_Haddock> dako: System settings -> Hardware -> Removable storage
[19:44] <Captain_Haddock> nekoseam: ok.
[19:44] <Captain_Haddock> Deleting and seeing what's filling them up might be a good idea.
[19:44] <nekoseam> Captain_Haddock: would it be safe deleting kern.log?
[19:44] <Captain_Haddock> Moving them elsewhere might be better if you need to investigate later.
[19:44] <nekoseam> it's about 18gb right now. No way I could open that in a text editor
[19:45] <dako> Captain_Haddock: Thank you!
[19:45] <Captain_Haddock> nekoseam: If you are comfortable with the command line, try "tail -100 kern.log"
[19:45] <Captain_Haddock> This will display 100 lines.
[19:47] <Captain_Haddock> tail -f kern.log will show you the latest bits of kern.log and update as new entries are added.
[19:48] <nekoseam> Alright so it seems to be repeating lines related to my wifi (wlp3s0)
[19:48] <nekoseam> Like authentication. It seems to not show any errors though
[19:51] <tomreyn> nekoseam: if you're looking for help with solving this, you will need to share some of those lines, and state which version of ubuntu you run. also, have you suspended your computer since you last (re)booted?
[19:51] <tomreyn> !paste | nekoseam
[19:52] <nekoseam> Captain_Haddock: tomreyn https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/35Qxy5nx6Y/
[19:58] <tomreyn> nekoseam: this looks entirely normal. also this was during the first 13 seconds of your system booting.
[19:58] <tomreyn> at 11:24 your time zone
[19:59] <tomreyn> so it doesn't seem like this is filling your logs
[19:59] <nekoseam> tomreyn: so then why is it 18gb in size? I'm not sure how to see the first lines in a file with tail
[19:59] <tomreyn> if it's not tail, then it must be head ;)
[20:00] <tomreyn> so:  head -n100 /var/log/kern.log
[20:00] <tomreyn> maybe log roration is just broken
[20:00] <tomreyn> *rotation
[20:01] <nekoseam> Ohhh, I think I see the issue. Basically I was having trouble with my wifi and had to resort to making the password unencrypted on my system. It's reporting a whole bunch of ins and outs relating to my wifi
[20:02] <nekoseam> head -100 is just a bunch of in and out messages related to it
[20:03] <tomreyn> from which date?
[20:03] <nekoseam> Feb 24
[20:03] <nekoseam> Which is when I installed Kubuntu I believe
[20:04] <tomreyn> and you never rebooted since?
[20:04] <nekoseam> Yes I have
[20:04] <tomreyn> then log rotation doesn't seem to work.
[20:04] <tomreyn> oh actually it default to weekly
[20:04] <tomreyn> so it can be fine
[20:06] <tomreyn> not sure about kern.log, i don't have this anymore, just use systemd-journal now.
[20:31] <nekoseam> That was the issue. gufw was turned on to high logging
[21:16] <dako> How do I encrypt my disks after installing Kubuntu?
[21:30] <tomreyn> dako: cryptsetup-reencrypt, but it's not easy to get it right.
[21:31] <tomreyn> you'd need to resize file systems and swueeze the encryption in between. the much easier approach is to reinstall and restore a backup.
[21:44] <dako> tomreyn: The instalation is brand new and the disks are empty. I installed some packages. There's plenty of space.


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[01:13] <virtu> hi 4 all
[01:14] <virtu> merry christmas and happy new year folks
[01:14] <virtu> by the way... the link above is for a rca to 1/4 cable... for 18U$... good deal?
[20:38] <virtu> hi
[22:57] <Ool> hi all just to know if exist an  ubuntustudio liveCD to show it quickly ?


[01:12] <mup> Bug #1704026 opened: [2.3] Strange error when registering external rack controller <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1704026>
[01:24] <mup> Bug #1704026 changed: [2.3] Strange error when registering external rack controller <ha> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1704026>
[01:30] <mup> Bug #1704026 opened: [2.3] Strange error when registering external rack controller <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1704026>
[01:48] <mup> Bug #1704028 opened: [2.3] Registering a second region api causes strange traceback <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1704028>
[01:57] <mup> Bug #1704028 changed: [2.3] Registering a second region api causes strange traceback <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1704028>
[02:00] <mup> Bug #1704028 opened: [2.3] Registering a second region api causes strange traceback <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1704028>
[16:07] <agrebennikov> ltrager, hello, did you have a chance to play around the issue we discussed yesterday?
[16:30] <roaksoax> agrebennikov: he is investigating
[16:55] <mup> Bug #1704176 opened: [2.3] django.core.exceptions.ValidationError: ['xenial has no kernels available.'] <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1704176>
[17:16] <mup> Bug #1664822 changed: [2.2] MAAS IPMI autodiscover should enable IPMI-over-LAN if disabled <MAAS:Fix Committed by andreserl> <MAAS 2.2:Triaged by andreserl> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1664822>
[17:35] <agrebennikov> great, thanks roaksoax
[18:23] <ltrager> agrebennikov: So in my environment I blocked all network access and configured commissioning to use a proxy for apt so packages could still be installed
[18:24] <ltrager> agrebennikov: that worked fine I'm trying to break DNS for everything but the archives to see if thats it
[18:38] <ltrager> agrebennikov, roaksoax: So I disabled DNS and only allowed access to the archive via a proxy and commissioning and ntp testing all work fine, no systemd slow downs
[18:41] <agrebennikov> ltrager, what do you see in the syslog in the node?
[18:42] <agrebennikov> I mean complaints from systemd-tymesync regarding ntp.ubuntu.com
[18:44] <ltrager> agrebennikov: I actually don't have entries for ntp.ubuntu.com, on the settings page can you see if 'Use external NTP servers only' is checked?
[18:44] <agrebennikov> yes, I did that
[18:45] <agrebennikov> but even with that I have lots of complaints specifically from systemd-timesync
[18:45] <agrebennikov> which still wants to connect to ntp.ubuntu
[18:45] <ltrager> agrebennikov: are you using the latest images from http://images.maas.io/?
[18:45] <agrebennikov> I assume so since from what I understand it checks for new images constantly
[18:46] <agrebennikov> and I see it in the log of either region or rack controller
[18:46] <ltrager> agrebennikov: okay I was just checking if you were using mirrored images
[18:47] <agrebennikov> I'm going to rebuild my maas node right now since the entire kvm host with that vm was destroyed
[18:47] <agrebennikov> unfortunately...
[18:47] <agrebennikov> so I'll have fresh brand new installation in a couple of hours
[18:47] <agrebennikov> with the latest images
[18:48] <agrebennikov> and if I still observe same issue I'll try to gather the logs from it
[18:48] <ltrager> agrebennikov: ok if you run into the issue again could you try to install strace and run strace systemctl daemon-reload
[18:48] <agrebennikov> the problem is that the issue happens during the commissioning only
[18:49] <agrebennikov> once it failed and the tyme is synced - it works finr
[18:49] <agrebennikov> *fine
[18:49] <agrebennikov> but I'll try
[20:34] <mup> Bug #1704212 opened: MAAS marks node 'Deployed' before sshd is up <cdo-qa> <cloud-init:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1704212>
[23:10] <agrebennikov> ltrager, will try my best once I got my jumphost back
[23:10] <agrebennikov> hopefully in an hour or so


[02:43] <terribad> Hi folks! I just installed Lubuntu (or so I thought) and it won't boot - all I see is a black screen with a single blinking underscore in the upper left corner. Any ideas why that might be?
[02:48] <terribad> It's not a dual boot, if that helps. I'm curious if nomodeset would help, but I don't seem to be able to set boot options using escape or shift during the boot.
[02:53] <holstein> terribad: try nomodeset
[02:53] <holstein> terribad: i will make the live iso work.. were you able to? i will do that before i install
[02:54] <holstein> could be anything from a bad iso, to bad hardware component..
[02:54] <holstein> if you see something pressing shift during boot, then, something is booting..
[02:54] <holstein> !nomodeset
[02:59] <terribad> I can't seem to get the grub menu open during boot. I'll try running from the live iso
[02:59] <holstein> terribad: can you get to the desktop from the live iso?
[03:02] <terribad> I tried booting what was on the live iso, and I didn't see the usual install-or-run menu. I've got a desktop now. Not sure why that happened.
[03:03] <holstein> terribad: from the live iso, try booting the desktop, live, without installing.. just live,
[03:03] <holstein> terribad: can you do that?
[03:03] <holstein> if not, try "nomodeset" from the live iso, and see if that gets you to the live desktop
[03:04] <holstein> thats a good indication that your GPU doesnt support linux..
[03:05] <terribad> From BIOS I booted the live ISO. Instead of showing the menu that asked if I wanted to install or boot without install, it went ahead and booted. I'm not actually sure if I'm booted from the iso or from the hard drive, but df is giving me output that's consistent with the hard disk...
[03:12] <terribad> I/etc/default/grub already has nomodeset! weird.
[03:15] <terribad> Okay, so: I can boot from the ISO. I can't boot from the hard drive. When I hold left shift during boot, nothing happens, so it looks like I can't toggle nomodeset during startup.
[03:33] <terribad> Booting from the live iso, it looks like the /etc/default/grub file on the hard drive is already correct. Nonetheless it won't boot without the live iso.
[03:58] <terribad> I'm only able to boot from my live iso. When I do so, I can see the hard drive, and I can confirm that its /etc/default/grub looks right. Any ideas?
[07:12] <jirido_> Is there a way to make links in pcmanfm? i have tried ctrl + shift drag and drop but cant see it works.
[07:23] <OmegaOne> how long is each lubuntu release supported for?
[07:24] <wxl> OmegaOne: check the release notes to find out. which version you thinking about?
[07:26] <OmegaOne> 10.10
[07:26] <OmegaOne> i mean 14.10
[07:27] <wxl> hahahah
[07:27] <wxl> oops
[07:27] <wxl> close though
[07:27] <wxl> OmegaOne: 9 months https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu#Support
[07:27] <wxl> going forward, all LTS should be 3 years, and all non-LTS 9 months
[07:28] <OmegaOne> thanks
[07:28] <wxl> this is consistent with the old support schedule for lts https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[10:47] <oslo2015> Anyone know why Eclipse is only version 3.8 in the software center?
[11:56] <curiousduder1> o/
[11:57] <curiousduder> o/
[12:01] <curiousduder> just installed lubuntu 14.10... liking it so far on this old dell
[13:40] <oslo2015> Why is Eclipse only version 3.8 in the Software Center?
[13:43] <curiousduder> dunno
[13:44] <curiousduder> try a diff. repo?
[13:45] <oslo2015> Sure, just seems weird to have an editions
[13:45] <oslo2015> *edition
[13:45] <oslo2015> that is four increments old
[13:46] <curiousduder> this is my first run with linux... installed a slew of distros, but ended up with lubuntu... i havent read into software listed in the center
[13:46] <curiousduder> I am still running an older version on my win machine (of eclipse)
[13:47] <curiousduder> haven't updated it in like 2 years
[13:48] <oslo2015> I'll need Java 8 support
[13:56] <curiousduder> for 3.8?
[13:57] <oslo2015> No, I was referring to the J8 support i n the latest Eclipse version
[13:57] <oslo2015> That's why I need the latest version
[13:57] <oslo2015> I just downloaded it directly from the website
[13:57] <oslo2015> Just thought it was curious that they did'nt include it in Lubuntu SC natively
[13:58] <curiousduder> ahh
[22:43] <speck84> Hiya
[22:43] <speck84> Is there anyone here?
[22:43] <speck84> I have a problem with my lubuntu
[22:44] <speck84> We have got Asusx102ba
[22:44] <speck84> after when I close the lid
[22:44] <speck84> they cant load the desktop
[22:45] <speck84> they ask me for the pw
[22:46] <speck84> after the screen gone
[22:46] <speck84> i saw the mouse but the screen is crashed
[22:54] <speck84> Any idea?