[00:03] <mup> Bug #1634390 changed: jujud services not starting after reboot when /var is on separate partition  <uosci> <juju:Triaged> <juju-core:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1634390>
[00:12]  * thumper relocates while care gets serviced
[00:28] <blahdeblah> Any ETA on 2.2 release?  Asking for a friend's HA controller. :-)
[01:17] <wallyworld> blahdeblah: 2.2 rc1 this week or more likely early next week; 2.2 fa soon after
[01:17] <anastasiamac> s/ga/fa
[01:18] <blahdeblah> anastasiamac: or s/fa/ga/ even :-)
[01:19] <blahdeblah> wallyworld: thanks
[01:19] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: as long as u've figured :)
[01:19] <anastasiamac> details... you know?... :D
[01:21] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: free now if you want to chat
[01:24] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: hey, yes please - back in standup?
[01:25] <wallyworld> sure  be there in a sec
[01:46] <axw_> wallyworld: we've got a lot of landing failures in the api package, going to look at that before windows things
[01:47] <wallyworld> axw_: ok. i'm free now too whenever you wanted to talk
[01:47] <axw_> wallyworld: ok, see you in standup then
[02:11] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: yay, it turns out that MachineAgent.apiserverWorkerStarter would just leak the state if any error occurred when creating the apiserver in MachineAgent.newAPIserverWorker. The syslog tests pass now.
[02:12] <wallyworld> whoot
[02:47] <axw_> anastasiamac: would you kindly review https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7428?
[02:47] <anastasiamac> me looking
[02:48] <anastasiamac> axw_: lgtm, tyvm!!
[02:48] <axw_> gracias
[03:45] <thumper> axw_: is this one that either you or wallyworld have fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1665040
[03:45] <mup> Bug #1665040: Race in github.com/juju/juju/worker/peergrouper <ci> <race-condition> <regression> <unit-tests> <juju:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1665040>
[03:46] <thumper> github.com/juju/juju/worker/peergrouper.(*workerSuite).TestSetsAndUpdatesMembers.func1.1()
[03:46] <wallyworld> thumper: yep, axw i think, i'd need to check the pr
[03:46] <axw_> thumper wallyworld: pretty sure I fixed a different one, checking now
[03:46] <wallyworld> but there's no more peer grouper races in the lastest runs
[03:46] <thumper> thanks
[03:47] <axw_> thumper: actually my PR would have fixed a bunch of tests, it was related to some common code. so yes
[03:47] <thumper> sweet
[03:47] <thumper> axw_: can you put the pr in that bug?
[03:47] <axw_> yup
[03:47] <thumper> ta
[04:18] <axw_> wallyworld: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7429 should fix the windows test failure. going for a ride, bbs
[04:18] <axw_> feel free to $$merge$$ if you're happy with it
[04:18] <wallyworld> axw_: alright. after that i need to talk to you about storage
[04:54] <thumper> veebers: ping
[04:54] <thumper> veebers: are you able to jump on a quick hangout?
[04:56] <veebers> thumper: yep, real quick have a standup coming up :-)
[04:56] <thumper> oh, you go to jam's?
[04:56] <veebers> aye, most of the time
[04:56] <jam> yeah
[04:56] <thumper> https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/quick
[05:01] <babbageclunk> ha ha, state has 270 public methods.
[05:02] <thumper> :)
[05:02] <thumper> hazaah
[05:17] <veebers> thumper: any luck with that test now?
[05:37] <thumper> veebers: got some time?
[05:37] <thumper> I only have a few minutes before heading out
[05:37] <thumper> taking Maia to guides
[05:40] <thumper> veebers: I'm still in quick
[05:44] <thumper> veebers: nm, have to head out now
[05:44] <thumper> I'm running an attempt at a test fix
[05:44] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: burton-aus: i think this failure may just be a slight difference in file content, but i haven't looked closely http://reports.vapour.ws/releases/5321/job/log-forward/attempt/1238
[05:45] <jam> axw_: babbageclunk: I've been doing some tweaking on the internals of mgo/txn, and while I'd usually reach out to menn0, he's not around to discuss them. Are either of you interested?
[05:47] <babbageclunk> jam: I would be, but I need to drop soon for child feeding and hosing down, sorry.
[05:47] <jam> babbageclunk: well, these are not high priority, so if you're interested in the area, we can schedule it for the future
[05:47] <babbageclunk> jam: yeah, definitely!
[05:48] <babbageclunk> whoa, that was probably more enthusiasm than I intended.
[05:48] <babbageclunk> But I definitely am interested.
[05:49] <veebers> ugh, sorry thumper was peeling potatoes :-\
[05:53] <babbageclunk> wallyworld, burton-aus: I haven't looked very hard at that, but there are definitely forwarded messages in the logs there, so I think it might be a test issue?
[05:54] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: yeah. my initial thought was that the changes done should have been transparent, so if the test was passing before, it should pass now also
[05:56] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: now that I think about it there might be ordering differences (since the logs for each model would be forwarded independently), or the forwarding might only be set up for the controller model in the test (expecting that would also forward the model logs, which isn't true any more).
[05:57] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: the latter sounds more plausible
[05:57] <wallyworld> we'll have to get the test updated
[05:58] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: want me to take a look at that? I think I'm finished the log collection splitting. Just fixing state tests that look directly in the logx collection, and then migration steps.
[05:58] <babbageclunk> I mean, upgrade steps
[05:59] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: i think it maybe better to continue your wip
[06:02] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: burton-aus might get to it first, otherwise you could look after putting up the log split PR
[06:02] <wallyworld> even if we just identify that the test needs fixing, we can sort out something to unblock the release
[06:15] <axw_> wallyworld: sorry, you wanted to chat storage? 1:1?
[06:25] <wallyworld> axw_: yeah, standup ho?
[06:26] <wallyworld> axw_: https://github.com/wallyworld/juju/compare/cleanup-removes-app-artefacts...wallyworld:cleanup-removes-app-artefacts2?expand=1
[06:41] <axw_> jam: if you have something written down about your changes, I'd be interested to read - I don't know enough about the insides of mgo/txn to provide immediate useful feedback
[06:42] <jam> axw: sure. the specific changes in this case are doing some caching and preloading of db requests
[06:54] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: yeah, I thought that too, just checking.
[07:10] <veebers> wallyworld, burton-aus: with the log-forwarding test, the test uses a regex to look for log entries that come from the other machine, that might need to be updated (maybe simplified)
[07:11] <burton-aus> veebers this is the one I guess:
[07:12] <burton-aus> "^[A-Z][a-z]{,2}\ +[0-9]+\ +[0-9]{1,2}:[0-9]{1,2}:[0-9]{1,2}\ machine-0.3ec9b846\-9520\-4d40\-87f2\-5c9114c8a28f\ jujud-machine-agent-3ec9b846\-9520\-4d40\-87f2\-5c91\ .*$"
[07:12] <burton-aus> veebers though that machine related string is just fetched from the run.
[07:12] <veebers> burton-aus: aye, that's the one.
[07:16] <veebers> babbageclunk, wallyworld, burton-aus: It's kind of hidden but the failure is in ensure_multiple_models_forward_messages, which adds a new model and deploys something, then checks that logs from that model appears in the rsyslog machine logs
[07:17] <veebers> so Looking at what babbageclunk mentioned, perhaps there is some extra config needed to make sure those logs get forwarded as well?
[07:21] <wallyworld> veebers: that bit should be transparent IIANM
[07:23] <veebers> wallyworld: I'm sorry I don't understand, which part, that there needs to be extra config for the models? Or that there shouldn't be any need for extra config?
[07:23] <wallyworld> no need for extra config
[07:24] <wallyworld> if the test is checking logs from a model, that bit should work the same as before
[07:24] <wallyworld> axw: i think we have an issue still - cleanupDyingUnit calls cleanupUnitStorageAttachments() with remove=false, so the storage removal doesn't happen, and EnsureDead() fails. i can't see that the processing of a dying unit adds a cleanup job to remove dying storage
[07:25] <veebers> wallyworld: ah cool, thanks for clarifying. It's possible the regex check needs tweaked (and or relaxed) if the format has changed a bit
[07:25] <wallyworld> i am likely missing something
[07:25] <axw> wallyworld: just a minute, looking
[07:25] <wallyworld> veebers: the format should be the same also
[07:25] <wallyworld> veebers: xtian will need to look into it a bit
[07:26] <axw> wallyworld: right, so cleanupDyingUnit causes the storage attachments to go to Dying (detach but don't remove)
[07:26] <wallyworld> veebers: it could be a test tweak as well, we just don't know yet
[07:26] <axw> wallyworld: then the uniter will run detach-storage hooks
[07:26] <axw> and will then remove them
[07:26] <wallyworld> axw: ah right, i need to run that bit manually as well
[07:32] <veebers> wallyworld: ack ok, keep us posted :-)
[07:33] <thumper> jam: just here to beg a review
[07:33] <jam> thumper: of?
[07:33] <thumper> https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7430
[07:34] <veebers> thumper: I missed your ping before, available now if you like
[07:34] <thumper> veebers: see PR
[07:35] <thumper> veebers: can you just check the CI test aspects?
[07:36] <veebers> thumper: link to PR?
[07:36] <thumper> veebers: two lines above your mention
[07:37] <veebers> thumper: ah ha :-) looking now
[07:39] <thumper> it really is pretty simple
[07:39] <thumper> 7 files, +10 −6
[07:40] <veebers> thumper: sweet, commented. LGTM
[07:40] <thumper> jam: ?
[07:40] <jam> thumper: was otp, do you want it right away?
[07:41] <thumper> I'll poke axw
[07:41] <thumper> I was wanting to kick off the merge
[07:41] <thumper> it's very very simple
[07:41]  * thumper looks at axw
[07:42]  * thumper will pop back in 10min
[07:42]  * thumper needs to clean house a bit
[07:42] <thumper> veebers: I'm assuming for develop we use the in tree tests and charms
[07:42] <jam> thumper: are we guaranteed never to see .log before it becomes .log.gz
[07:44] <veebers> thumper: not yet. That's something we're working toward (won't be far away)
[07:45] <thumper> veebers: oh... well the CI test will fail then
[07:46] <thumper> you do see a .log before it becomes .log.gz, but just very briefly
[07:47] <veebers> thumper: ack, once that branch lands we can do the separate "update all" which will propagate the changes (then re-run the test again if needed)
[07:47] <thumper> veebers: but... but.. then the tests will fail from older versions
[07:48] <thumper> or have you fixed that?
[07:48] <axw> thumper: sorry I was afk, you wanted a review from me?
[07:48] <thumper> https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7430
[07:48] <thumper> axw: discussing ^^
[07:48] <thumper> jam: I guess if we hit a weird timing issue, we can add a sleep 5 to the action
[07:48] <thumper> :)
[07:49] <thumper> but it passed here
[07:49] <thumper> on lxd with ssd
[07:49] <thumper> well... I guess we'll find out
[07:49]  * thumper needs to head off now...
[07:56] <axw> veebers: I can merge tim's branch, but CI will start failing - how much longer are you around? isn't it already past your EOD?
[07:59] <veebers> axw: aye it is, the CI test will fail on the revision-build, we can make it pass though by updating the nodes once it lands
[07:59] <veebers> It's a bit messy as we're in the process of making it so testing is done from in tree
[08:00] <axw> veebers: ok. looks like this is meant to be going into rc1, so I'll merge and hopefully balloons can sort it out when he wakes up
[08:01] <veebers> axw: ack, I'll email and let him kknow
[08:02] <axw> veebers: thanks :)
[12:09] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: hey, i'm told  a recent change to add/use a dns cache may have added a flakey test, TestDNSCacheUsed... any chance you could look? we are trying to get an rc out this week. here's an example of a failure http://reports.vapour.ws/releases/5325/job/run-unit-tests-xenial-amd64/attempt/255
[12:12] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: was that before https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7429 landed?
[12:13] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: it's off the latest CI run, let me check to see that rev it is
[12:14] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: thanks
[12:15] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: yeah, the CI run is from testing PR 7430 which landed 5 hours after
[12:16] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: OK, i'll look into it
[12:16] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: tyvm, i'm off to bed real soon
[12:16] <wallyworld> we are looking to get a good CI run for the morning in australia
[12:18] <wpk> around midnight UTC?
[12:18] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: there's one problem that really should be fixed before release
[12:20] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1692905
[12:20] <mup> Bug #1692905: cert error on public controller: cannot validate certificate  <juju:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1692905>
[12:20] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: i'm working on the fix
[12:22] <balloons> hey wallyworld ;)
[12:24] <balloons> Looks like if you land the unit test fix the only issue will be with the windows deploy test. We think the slave is sick
[12:25] <balloons> rogpeppe, will you have a fix for that today?
[12:25] <rogpeppe> balloons: i am hoping to, yes
[12:26] <rogpeppe> balloons: i've fixed the code - just writing tests for it
[12:27] <balloons> Awesome. So we can get a bless on that landing. Changing any dependencies?
[12:27] <rogpeppe> balloons: here's a fix for another flaky test of mine... https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7434
[12:29] <balloons> rogpeppe, ack. Good stuff.
[13:28] <mup> Bug #1694988 opened: AWS instances created by juju don't have an associated IPv6, even if "auto-assign IPv6 addresses" is enabled for the subnet <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1694988>
[17:15] <rogpeppe> this PR fixes juju bug 1692905: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7438; reviews appreciated
[17:15] <mup> Bug #1692905: cert error on public controller: cannot validate certificate  <juju:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1692905>
[18:00] <wpk> rogpeppe: unit tests are failing
[18:17] <cmars> wpk, could i please get a review of https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7439 ?
[19:04] <wpk> cmars: done.
[19:04] <cmars> wpk, thanks
[19:12] <rogpeppe> wpk: looking
[19:14] <rogpeppe> cmars: you could look at the server version and warn if it's 2.2 or greater, I guess
[19:15] <rogpeppe> wpk: ok, a bunch of fairly trivial things; i was too lazy to run the tests my own machine, can you tell? :)
[19:26] <rogpeppe> wpk: i'd very much appreciate a review if you're up for it, BTW
[19:29] <rogpeppe> wpk: tests should be fixed now
[19:40] <wpk> rogpeppe: full suite kills my laptop, so I always do the bare minimum and then test it in Jenkins :)
[19:40] <rogpeppe> wpk: at least the tests are now run before you hit $$merge$$
[21:14] <babbageclunk> veebers: hey, sorry to miss the discussion last night - I think if you set up the model defaults with log forwarding settings before creating the model it should start forwarding logs straight away.
[21:18] <veebers> babbageclunk: that's contrary to what wallyworld said re: the settings being transparent isn't it?
[21:19] <wallyworld> veebers: you always did need to set up log forwarding in the initial config
[21:19] <babbageclunk> veebers: It's transparent if you were already setting the model defaults. ;)
[21:19] <veebers> ah right
[21:19]  * veebers checks what the test is doing now
[21:21] <babbageclunk> veebers: There is a change in behaviour - before if you set up forwarding for the controller it would automatically forward for all models. Now if you want that you need to put the settings in model defaults.
[21:22] <veebers> babbageclunk: ah right ok, I think that's the missing part in my thinking, cheers
[21:23] <babbageclunk> veebers: Sorry, I probably should have mentioned that earlier!
[21:24] <veebers> babbageclunk: you have docs re: what the settings values are for that?
[21:26] <externalreality> Does anyone happen to know if there exists CI jobs that depend on the fact that GO is being installed by Juju's top level Makefile?
[21:28] <veebers> balloons: is it only unit tests that we expect juju to install go as part of it's own setup?
[21:28] <balloons> externalreality, yes we do depend on it
[21:29] <balloons> veebers, we we run the merge jobs we use the makefile on the new instance to test
[21:32] <babbageclunk> veebers: no, I don't think it's documented anywhere. The settings haven't changed - still logforward-enabled, syslog-host, syslog-ca-cert, syslog-client-cert, syslog-client key.
[21:33] <babbageclunk> veebers: Just how they're used has changed.
[21:37] <veebers> babbageclunk: do you need to set the syslog-* stuff on the model config too?
[21:39] <babbageclunk> veebers: yup - they could be independent, in theory.
[21:40] <babbageclunk> veebers: Want to have a quick hangout about it?
[21:44] <veebers> babbageclunk: would love to, just in release call, will be a little bit before i'm free, can I ping you?
[21:45] <rogpeppe> thumper, axw, wallyworld: you might wanna take a look at this PR - I'm hoping it can land before the release: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7438
[21:46] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: might be able to :-) btw there's still a dns cache related race
[21:46] <babbageclunk> veebers: yup yup
[21:47] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: got a link to a failure?
[21:47] <wallyworld> give me a sec to find it
[21:48] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: TestDNSCacheUsed. I think you fixed a different one. http://reports.vapour.ws/releases/5331/job/run-unit-tests-race/attempt/2831
[21:48] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: ooh, an actual race!
[21:48] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: thanks
[21:49] <babbageclunk> ooh!
[21:49] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: we are delaying rc1 till next monday/tuesday, so that will get time for your pr to land
[21:50] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: yeah, we have fixed several actual races this week elsewhere as well. so close to getting a proper blessed CI run
[21:52] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: ok, that's a trivial fix
[21:52] <wallyworld> yay
[21:58] <babbageclunk> Is anyone else having trouble with pushes to github taking a long time?
[21:58] <veebers> babbageclunk: I did last night and thought it was just my internet (or that I did something wrong)
[21:59] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7440
[22:00] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: you rock, ty, will look real soon
[22:00] <wallyworld> i'll merge
[22:00] <wallyworld> rick_h: just finishing meeting, be there in a sec
[22:00] <rick_h> wallyworld: all good
[22:03] <babbageclunk> veebers: Mine's just sitting here with a git pack-objects process doing nothing. I guess the other end of the connection is loaded?
[22:05] <babbageclunk> ugh, finally!
[22:08] <thumper> babbageclunk: can you join the release call plz?
[22:08] <babbageclunk> thumper: sure
[22:08] <wallyworld> rick_h: still in release call, can we delay for 15 mins, or defer?
[22:08] <thumper> rick_h: I'm feeling left out, you haven't asked me for a call
[22:08] <rick_h> wallyworld: rgr, just setup something that works for you next week if that's ok
[22:08] <rick_h> thumper: well, I like wallyworld :P
[22:09] <wallyworld> rick_h: sure, and sorry, 2.2 release is so close
[22:09] <wallyworld> we need to get stuff sorted
[22:09] <rick_h> wallyworld: <3
[22:09] <rick_h> yea
[22:11] <rick_h> wallyworld: thumper the one thing for 2.2 I wanted to bring up is if this article effects instance type availability and needs to be mentioned. https://goo.gl/VNe9oC
[22:11] <rick_h> wallyworld: other than that I'll catch you later
[22:11] <wallyworld> rick_h: we'll look at it
[23:14] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: could you also tweak the controller setting max-txn-log-size when you do the mustString() thing for the other ones?
[23:15] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: ok
[23:15] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: we don't ww
[23:15] <babbageclunk> oops
[23:15] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: covfefe
[23:16] <wallyworld> lol
[23:16] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: We don't want to run the log pruner per-model do we?
[23:16] <wallyworld> it should be like the status history pruner
[23:16] <wallyworld> i think that's per model
[23:17] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: oh, ok - I'll take a look at that


[17:39] <Gnea> hi
[17:39] <gotwig> Can I in theory upgrade directly from 11.10 to 12.10?
[17:39] <Gnea> No.
[17:40] <Gnea> the only way would not be an upgrade, but a complete re-install.
[17:40] <Gnea> therefore, it would not be an upgrade.
[17:40] <Gnea> but it would get you straight to 12.10
[21:41] <MrChrisDruif> gotwig; but you can upgrade from 11.10 > 12.04 > 12.10...almost directly ;-)
[22:35] <gotwig> MrChrisDruif, -.-
[22:35] <MrChrisDruif> =)


[04:47] <dave__> is anone out there?
[04:48] <dave__> echo;;;;
[10:37] <InspectorCluseau> ;;tlast
[10:37] <InspectorCluseau> oops
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:50] <jubo2> Hi. I'm having a really weird issue. The internal mic works in Windows, but if I open it in Kubuntu I get just horrible noise to the max
[11:50] <jubo2> It is a Realtek afaik
[11:51] <BluesKaj> jubo2, check your alsamixer vol levels
[11:52] <jubo2> BluesKaj: where can I find it?
[11:52] <jubo2> running 'alsamixer &' starts a process, but I cannot see any GUI coming up
[11:53] <BluesKaj> jubo2, type alsamixer in the terminal
[11:56] <jubo2> Thanks BluesKaj. Setting the "Internal mic boost" to zero fixes the issue
[11:57] <BluesKaj> mic boost is probly for low output expensive condenser mics, which a lot of vocalists prefer
[11:59] <BluesKaj> they have a higher dynamic range than normal transducer mics


[01:21] <kcowolf> Has anyone had any luck getting Ubuntu ARM working under QEMU in Windows?
[02:42] <kcowolf> think I got it
[17:03] <nab> have people run into this problem before:
[17:04] <nab> evolution-indicator gnome-pilot gnome-pilot-conduits
[17:04] <nab> mobile-broadband-provider-info libmbca0
[17:04] <nab> E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
[17:04] <nab> Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[17:04] <nab> I: Killed ...
[17:21] <nab> hello ogra


[00:40] <timeax> Hello is there somebody awake?
[00:45] <lpotter> sometimes
[00:46] <timeax> Hi :)
[00:47] <timeax> I tryed the guide linked in the topic for the ubuntu touh porting on a new device
[00:48] <timeax> But when i the packages listed i'm having a problem
[00:48] <timeax> It says impossible to find mingw32 package
[00:48] <timeax> You know how can i solve that?
[00:51] <timeax> Ok no prob, its late, good night ppls ;)
[08:09] <[tj]> moin
[10:25] <keesj> Hi, do specific ports have a special irc channel?
[10:25] <davmor2> keesj: no
[10:29] <keesj> I would like to keep up (and help) on the FP2 port hence my question
[10:30] <keesj> (I am working at Fairphone)
[10:46] <MCMic> Will the hardware of the fairphone allow to use the convergence?
[10:54] <davmor2> keesj: this will be your best channel then I think
[11:00] <tvoss> keesj, you want to reach out to mariogrip
[11:01] <tvoss> keesj, oh, and welcome :)
[11:06] <keesj> MCMic: I am quite new to the Ubuntu-phone part (but long time ubuntu/linux user and of course embedded/android developer)
[11:07] <keesj> I don't know what specs are required for convergence
[11:07] <Stskeeps> keesj: mhl/slimport on fp2 ooi?
[11:09] <keesj> While the soc can support HDMI out (using an adapter) this won't work on FP2
[11:09] <Stskeeps> nod
[11:10] <keesj> we do have the standar otg port (and an additional usb port on the back) so perhaps something over usb can work
[11:11] <MCMic> keesj: And is that on a part that might be changed later on a fairphone? I know some ports are easily replaced.
[11:11] <keesj> for example there is an existing Linux video(webcam) gadget that we can try to hook up
[11:13] <keesj> MCMic: No, HDMI requires +5v out and we initially used that port to power the extension port
[11:14] <keesj> so .. enablind HDMI would require at least a new PCB respin (not something we are looking forward to doing any time soon)
[11:14] <MCMic> :-/
[11:40] <dpm> hi keesj
[11:42] <dpm> I think mariogrip had some issues which might be related to the kernel and wanted to reach out to you
[11:42] <dpm> I'm not sure he's had the time to yet, but I'm sure he'll reply when he's online
[11:42] <mariogrip> Yeah After blank() / setPower() (hwc) the display don’t want to wake up again.
[11:42] <dpm> there you go :)
[12:02] <victor_bq> Hi all!
[12:03] <victor_bq> I need some help
[12:03] <victor_bq> I've got a customer interested in UP, and he wants some hints about what is possible with it
[12:05] <victor_bq> he wants to know if is possible to create a script to manage hot-spot connection or create/config a phisical netwaork via USB-RJ45 adapter
[12:05] <victor_bq> =)
[12:07] <davmor2> victor_bq: hotspot only deals with naming and turning on and off, not much you can script there :)  As for usb-rj45 connector in theory it should just work but in all honesty I don't think anyone has tried it
[12:07] <mcphail> victor_bq: a script triggered by what? I don't think there is a mechanism for NFC/RFID or GPS triggers, for example
[12:12] <victor_bq> his first question was if it's possible to set up a 3G connection or a Wi-Fi AP with a script to use krillin as a wireless router
[12:12] <ogra_> sure, we ship nmcli
[12:13] <ogra_> weather there is a module for his USB ethernet adaptaer is another thing :)
[12:13] <victor_bq> he is a sys admin from a spanish company that wants to use some UP for IT solutions and is just asking some things :)
[12:14] <victor_bq> thanks @ogra
[12:14] <ogra_> well, worst case he acn always make the system writable or use an lxc container to get full ubuntu features
[12:14] <ogra_> *can
[12:14] <dpm> keesj, not sure if you saw mariogrip's reply? ^^
[12:15] <mariogrip> dpm: he haven't answer me on pm, so I guess he's offline
[12:17] <keesj> yea , I am not that great at IRC on such channels :P
[12:20] <keesj> mariogrip: do you mind if we use #fairphone-ubuntu or #fairphone-ubuntu-touch? (as to keep traffic low)
[12:20] <mariogrip> keesj: yeah, sure
[12:25] <keesj> what works for you
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-is-being-ported-to-sony-xperia-t2-ultra-android-phones-501471.shtml
[13:03] <popey> oh jeez
[13:04] <popey> adfad666: ^ I shared your screenshot, now you're in the news, sorry :)
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> lets hope more device will get the ubuntu bite :p
[13:21] <mariogrip> a new device just got delivered, a n5 :) dobey
[13:23] <popey> oooh
[13:38] <adfad666> Oops
[13:56] <popey> adfad666: no pressure ㋛
[14:15] <dobey> mariogrip: nice :)
[15:39] <ogra_> sil2100, i see a livecd-rootfs 2.382 package in the archive, but no release in the LP branch
[15:39] <ogra_> did you forget to debcommit/push ?
[15:40] <sil2100> Crap, didn't I bzr push it?
[15:40] <ogra_> deosnt look like ... can you ?
[15:40] <sil2100> Eh, sure, I had it in /tmp though so I'll just recreate the release commit
[15:41] <sil2100> Sorry about that, I was 100% sure I did a push
[15:41] <ogra_> yeah, happens :)
[15:41] <ogra_> (to me too ... :)
[15:42] <ogra_> thanks !
[15:46] <sil2100> yw! Will make sure that never happens again ;)
[15:47] <ogra_> lol
[15:47] <ogra_> dont make such promises ... it happens to me too every 10th time :)
[16:19] <mpt> jgdx, pmcgowan: fingerprint design done. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings?action=diff&rev2=74&rev1=73
[16:20] <mpt> I got sucked down rabbit holes of “we should always make you set a passcode” and “we should allow passcodes of more digits”, but this is the minimum change just for fingerprints
[16:23] <mpt> (and both of those, combined, lead to “passwords are just another kind of passcode” and “having a passcode without using it for unlocking is the same as having ‘Lock after auto-sleeping’ set to ‘Never’”, etc)
[16:25] <mpt> So there’s lots of other changes pending once fingerprint is done (which will, for example, solve the awkwardness of fingerprint ID assuming that you want a passcode and not a password)
[16:27] <pmcgowan> mpt, ok sounds good thanks, tvoss|lunch ^^
[17:07] <Maxr1998> timeax: I successfully built UTouch for mako without that package..
[18:18] <Facu> Hi all!
[18:18] <Facu> I'm trying to flash a device, but ubuntu-device-flash just hangs :/
[18:18] <Facu> this is the third time I run it, now I left it a couple of hours
[18:18] <Facu> see http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15329318/
[18:18] <Facu> is there any way to make it show progress or something?
[18:19] <mterry> Mirv, re: bug 1552860, even in your new update, the qservicemanager_ipc is still marked as "failing in Ubuntu" -- do we know why?  Is it something we can fix?
[18:36] <bubbles> hi, trying to flash meizu mx4 in fastboot but keep getting <waiting for device> message in terminal?! think I am missing something crucial :p
[18:41] <bubbles> and "fastboot devices" gives me: no permissions	fastboot
[18:42] <genii> Use sudo
[18:43] <bubbles> >.<
[18:43] <bubbles> genii: thank you
[18:44] <bubbles> wouldn't believe I have been using ubuntu on and off since 6.06
[18:45]  * genii makes more coffee
[18:48] <dobey> you shouldn't need to use sudo to flash a device
[18:51] <genii> dobey: the fastboot command needs sudo
[18:52] <ogra_> genii, not if there is a proper entry in the udev file the fastboot package ships
[18:52] <dobey> yeah i've never used "sudo fastboot"
[18:53] <ogra_> but you also only use nexus devices :)
[18:53] <ogra_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15329642/
[18:53] <dobey> i don't think i used sudo fastboot with the krillin either :)
[18:53] <ogra_> (from wily)
[18:54] <ogra_> the distro package has surely never been updated to have krillin in /lib/udev/rules.d/70-android-tools-fastboot.rules
[18:54] <genii> I haven't used it on wily, but in Trusty  and Vivid, fastboot complained unless sudo
[18:54] <dobey> anyway, chromium is really bad at history
[18:55] <ogra_> i think there was a ppa package that was kept up to date when the phonedations team still existed
[18:55] <ogra_> but i doubt anyone cared to land the changes in the archive after the team was gone
[19:02] <bubbles> could an issue with the udev file also cause issues when trying to sideload onto an MX4 with an "error: insufficient permissions for device" error?
[19:05] <ogra_> bubbles, is there already ubuntu on it ?
[19:05] <ogra_> (or was there ever)
[19:05] <bubbles> yes, trying to remove ubuntu actually :/
[19:05] <ogra_> ah
[19:06] <ogra_> no idea if that works, you most likely need a flash tool from meizu ... ubuntu uses different partitioning from android
[19:06] <ogra_> (so you need some factory tool the re-partitions the flash)
[19:07] <ogra_> s/the/that/
[19:08] <bubbles> I have already got the recovery working and as per a mail on the mailing list you can sideload flymeos ... but I keep getting the insufficient permissions error
[19:09] <dobey> bubbles: what are you trying to do? flash ubuntu? or flyme?
[19:11] <bubbles> flyme
[19:11] <bubbles> dobey: ^
[19:11] <dobey> i think maybe you need to contact meizu support then :)
[19:12] <bubbles> k, thanks
[19:47] <Maxr1998> is there already an ubuntu port with 64bit?
[19:47] <Maxr1998> and why is the android base for ubuntu touch still 4.4.2?
[19:48] <popey> not sure if the bq M10 is 64-bit or not
[19:49] <Maxr1998> yep, it is! you'Re right
[19:49] <Maxr1998> *re
[19:50] <dobey> the m10 is 64-bit
[19:51] <dobey> we use the 64-bit android container, but the ubuntu userland is still 32-bit on it
[19:51] <Maxr1998> ok
[19:51] <Maxr1998> thanks
[19:51] <Maxr1998> where do I find the sources for the 64bit container, or how do I set up a build environment for it?
[19:52] <dobey> and 5.x changed a lot of things. there's some work to move to 5.x, but it's not entirely complete yet
[19:52] <Maxr1998> thought that
[19:52] <dobey> i think the tablet is 5.x based though
[19:52] <Maxr1998> the renders show lollipop, yep
[19:53] <dobey> eh?
[19:54] <Maxr1998> the renders on the bq website
[19:54] <dobey> you mean the android version of the tablet?
[19:54] <dobey> i was talking about ubuntu
[19:55] <Maxr1998> yes
[19:56] <Maxr1998> What I wanted to say, the bq m10 started with android 5.X. So I guess Ubuntu Touch uses a 5.X container, because porting it to 4.4 would be.. erhm yeah
[20:06] <krijn_> hey guys (m/f ;) ) is there any way to get legacy apps running on a Nexus 4 now, the only thing which keeps on popping up are sites using the video on omgubuntu: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/02/ubuntu-convergence-x11-apps-video-demo
[20:06] <krijn_> but no where what omgubuntu calls "prepare some manual config files and use a series of arcane terminal commands"
[20:07] <popey> heh
[20:07] <popey> I don't think it's all documented well yet
[20:07] <krijn_> i was afraid so
[20:08] <krijn_> i was actually quite impressed with the performance on a 1080x1920 screen with a phone originating from 2012
[20:08] <krijn_> wanted to push the boundaries a bit ;)
[20:09] <dobey> krijn_: no, nothing has changed since yesterday
[20:11] <krijn_> ha, i didn't think so, but I didn't really push with my questions ;)
[20:12] <Maxr1998> is there already documentation or sources for the M10 up?
[20:12] <Maxr1998> from what I found, there isn't anything
[20:12] <dobey> and nexus 4 isn't 1080p either
[20:13] <Maxr1998> but on code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com there aren't even sources for the bq EX.X devices
[20:13] <popey> dobey: it is on external display
[20:13] <dobey> sure
[20:13] <popey> which is what he was talking about - convergent x apps etc
[20:13] <dobey> but i guess i could plug it into my 4k monitor too
[20:14] <krijn_> well, the odd thing is that it wouldn't according to the internal info, but the displays (tried two) both said they were running in native 1080-mode
[20:14] <krijn_> a 4k monitor said 1080 too
[20:15] <krijn_> but i must say that without a bt mouse i haven't really dug deeper (athough I could've used ssh i guess). It was quickly done at work
[20:15] <krijn_> trying different monitors
[20:23] <bubbles> with enough googlefu I was able to get flyme installed, thanks for the assistance and have a great day all
[20:58] <taiebot> Hi everyone has anyone got the stats on the lock screen working ? Never been bothered to report it but it has not been working for  months.
[21:00] <dobey> works here
[21:06] <pmcgowan> taiebot, do you see nothing on the greeter or you see the circle without stats?
[21:07] <taiebot> pmcgowan: i see the circle but nothing no decorations and the the string for the numbers are alway set to 0
[21:08] <pmcgowan> hmm
[21:08] <taiebot> pmcgowan i have a crash for usermetrics service in /var/crash
[21:09] <pmcgowan> taiebot, I wonder if it always crashes, is the service running?
[21:09] <taiebot> pmcgowan it has not worked for like almost 4 months and  i am running rc-proposed on nexus 4
[21:12] <pmcgowan> taiebot, I just found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libusermetrics/+bug/1372502
[21:14] <taiebot> pmcgowan: might do the workaround and report if it starts working
[21:14] <pmcgowan> yep
[21:14] <pmcgowan> we don't know why those ownerships can change
[21:16] <taiebot> pmcgowan: would it be because of forced restart of phone during the apparmor rebuild?
[21:16] <pmcgowan> taiebot, no idea really but the apparmor profiles seem quite separate
[21:19] <taiebot> pmcgowan: yeah it worked got one notification working
[21:19] <pmcgowan> taiebot, ok, well someday maybe we will figure out how that happens
[21:19] <pmcgowan> its rare enough but has hit multiple people
[21:27] <taiebot> pmcgowan following https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/1332538/comments/5 .  this is my /var/log permissions http://pastebin.com/Le0Un4y0
[21:28] <pmcgowan> yeesh
[21:30] <pmcgowan> taiebot, so something in an update back in sept screwed up the ownerships
[21:30] <pmcgowan> ts like the mapping of the users changed
[21:31] <pmcgowan> Oh i see, so it did get fixed right after that
[21:31] <taiebot> pmcgowan: is there "the way" it should be somewhere ?
[21:33] <pmcgowan> taiebot, this is my mx4 http://paste.ubuntu.com/15330496/
[21:38] <taiebot> pmcgowan: could i also asked you for the /var/lib permissions ?
[21:38] <pmcgowan> one sec
[21:39] <pmcgowan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15330527/
[21:40] <taiebot> pmcgowan it is also different :-(
[21:41] <taiebot> http://pastebin.com/PxXeE9EL
[21:42] <pmcgowan> yeesh again
[21:42] <pmcgowan> hopefully only a few phones using proposed got hit with that
[21:42] <taiebot> pmcgowan lightdm has very weird permission drwxr-x---  6 systemd-timesync lxc-dnsmasq  4096 Jun 10  2014 lightdm
[21:42] <pmcgowan> indeed seems random
[22:26] <mariogrip> dobey: I fixed the n5 issue
[22:53] <dobey> mariogrip: sweet
[22:53] <dobey> mariogrip: what was it?
[22:53] <mariogrip> header missmatch
[22:54] <dobey> ah
[22:54] <mariogrip> building images now, should be up in about 10 mins
[22:54] <dobey> awesome
[23:04] <mariogrip> dobey: Is there something else i should take a look at while im on the device? (bt is known)
[23:09] <dobey> mariogrip: gps doesn't work either; but bt is the big one i think
[23:09] <mariogrip> ok, I will take a look at them


[05:08] <hrw> Snark: nothing works, 'ghjk' keys get up to 95°C, touchpad is 147° rotated and screen works in 320x180 resolution only.
[05:08] <hrw> Snark: hdmi works only if keyboard is connected to usb3 port and SD slot works only on tuesdays
[05:25] <infinity> hrw: Speaking of.  Can I get you to verify your alsa* SRUs so I can release them?  Pretty please?
[05:26] <infinity> hrw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/chromebook-arm/+bug/1085392
[05:26] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1085392 in Cross distro support for Samsung Chromebook (ARM based) "Merge Chromebook UCM profiles into ALSA packages" [Critical,Triaged]
[05:47] <Snark> hrw: hmmm... may I remind you that I own an AC100, where the latest kernel makes hdmi and sound work, but suspend+resume fails, while using an older kernel makes suspend+resume fail but not hdmi and sound
[05:49] <Snark> hrw: additionally, there *is* a page describing what works and what doesn't for ubuntu touch on the nexus 7
[05:49] <Snark> so, I don't think my question is as laughable as you make it sound...
[05:52] <Snark> so, my question is: what part of the following list works when running ubuntu on the samsung chromebook (wifi, hdmi, bluetooth, suspend+resume)?
[05:53] <Snark> s/an older kernel makes suspend+resume fail but  not hdmi and sound
[05:53] <Snark>  /an older kernel makes suspend+resume fail but  not hdmi and  sound
[05:53] <Snark> rrraahhh...
[05:54] <Snark> I meant the older kernel had suspend+resume work, but didn't make it possible to use hdmi and sound
[06:11] <hrw> infinity: sorry, forgot totally
[06:12] <hrw> Snark: we use the same kernel source as chrome os doe
[06:12] <hrw> s
[06:12] <hrw> Snark: so what works under chromeos works under ubuntu. but we do not ship opengles stuff or hw accelerated codecs
[06:16] <hrw> maybe during saucy cycle it will change as I plan to build 3.8 or 3.10-rc kernels
[06:47] <ericvrp> Hi!
[06:48] <ericvrp> Is it to be expected that UbuntuArm 12.10 on BeagleBone Black only gives a handful of package updates (after apt-get update)?
[06:58] <infinity> How many were you hoping for?
[07:28] <Snark> hrw good!
[07:28] <Snark> thanks
[07:34] <hrw> death to slow sd cards...
[07:34] <hrw> started debootstrap over hour ago
[09:22] <hrw> ogra_: I see that android-tools are now in main - nice
[09:50] <XorA> hrw: why is usb-storage a module in chromebook kernel? Makes testing kind of difficult
[09:50] <hrw> XorA: my mistake
[09:50] <hrw> XorA: open a bug please - otherwise no SRU can be done
[09:51] <XorA> hrw: oh its an official package now?
[09:51] <hrw> yes, it is
[09:51] <XorA> hrw: wont have time today Ill postit to do that tomorrow
[09:51] <hrw> XorA: no rush
[09:51]  * XorA has year end accounts to sort out + Linaro
[10:10] <hrw> infinity: rebooting chromebook to check after-reboot sound state
[10:13] <hrw> infinity: passed
[10:15] <infinity> hrw: Awesome.  Can you do Q too, or shall we just fudge that based on the diffs being the same? :P
[10:15] <hrw> infinity: with my sd card it will take another few hours to populate rootfs
[10:16] <hrw> diffs are same and chromebook users are on 12.04 or 13.04 usually
[10:16] <infinity> hrw: Yeah, diffs being the same (just double-checked) is good enough for me.
[10:17] <hrw> infinity: I though that SRU bugs should be verified by !reporter
[10:18] <infinity> hrw: Nah, that's crazy talk.  They should be verified by someone who knows how to verify them.
[10:18] <hrw> ;)
[10:19] <infinity> hrw: I'm happy with it being the reporter as long as it's obvious that they actually did so (which you clearly did), instead of them just lying to me to get their crap code in. :P
[10:20] <hrw> right
[10:21] <hrw> infinity: I hope that 3.10 will be able to work on chromebook - or 3.11 in worst case
[10:25] <infinity> Linux 3.11 for Workgroups will only work on 486s.
[10:26] <XorA> hehe
[10:27] <hrw> infinity: good that I still have Vortex86SX somewhere...
[10:28] <hrw> 486sx 300MHz noFPU
[10:28] <infinity> I might still have an AMD 5x86/133 in a closet.
[10:29] <infinity> From the unclever days when "5x86" meant "486DX compatible, but we gave it a higher number to sound impressive".
[10:29] <infinity> Amazing how my opinions of them flipped right around with the K7.
[10:30] <hrw> ;)
[10:30] <hrw> my first PC was AMD Duron 600MHz
[10:30] <infinity> Good little CPUs those.
[10:30] <hrw> worked fine as 850MHz after some pencil fun
[10:30] <infinity> I had a Duron 600 clocked at 900, if I recall.
[10:31] <hrw> mine was not stable at 900
[10:31] <infinity> 850's close enough.
[10:31] <hrw> probably cooling needed update
[10:31] <infinity> Given they were, what, like 50 dollar parts at OEM wholesale cost?
[10:31] <hrw> no idea - cheap it was
[10:31] <hrw> and switch from 68040/40 to Duron/600 was huge
[10:32] <infinity> Hahaha.    Amiga or Atari?
[10:32] <hrw> and 720x480x4(grey) -> 1024x768x16(color)
[10:32] <hrw> infinity: Amiga 1200
[10:32] <hrw> infinity: my first Linux experience was on this hw. Check potato installation guide for Amiga ;D
[10:33] <infinity> I was still tracking music on my A1200 while playing video games on my K7 machines.
[10:33] <hrw> infinity: I sold a1200 to have money for pc
[10:33] <infinity> Speaks volumes to the quality of both the software and hardware in the Amiga world.
[10:34] <infinity> But, eventually, I got sick of rebooting it before laying down a track to avoid clock skew over time, and other such oddities, bit the bullet, and learned to use inferior PC tracking software.
[10:34] <hrw> motherboard, apollo 1240/40 (real 40MHz), 2x32MB simms, fastata controller
[10:34] <infinity> (And then, over time, the PC software got less shit)
[10:34] <hrw> vga mono with AGA was usable. but I would not go for >4 bit of grey (or colours) :d
[10:35] <infinity> All the cool kids had colour!
[10:35] <hrw> infinity: so I was not cool kid;)
[10:35] <infinity> Heck, I had color on my old 6809 machine.
[10:35] <infinity> That fancypants RGB monitor cost a fortune, if I recall.
[10:35] <hrw> infinity: atari 65xe with green monitor, then amiga600, then a1200 with same monitor.
[10:36] <hrw> then monitor died for 3rd time and I decided to buy vga mono instead of resurrection
[10:36] <infinity> Heh.
[10:36] <hrw> 720x480 27.5kHz 58.5Hz - no other vga monitor was able to sync it
[10:36] <infinity> Yeah, when my parents stopped being a source of cool tech, I was cheap about monitors too.
[10:37] <infinity> After I moved out, I had the same old 800x600 14 inch monitor until.  Uhm.  2002?
[10:38] <infinity> When a friend forced me to buy a new monitor because he couldn't stand me using a 15yo CRT with brand new computers.
[10:38] <hrw> in 2000 I was more limited by 2MB ATI Mach64 graphic card then monitor.
[10:38] <infinity> And now I've just given up on the whole desktop thing and buy laptops, which come with "free" monitors, so yay.
[10:38] <hrw> few months later Matrox G400 arrived and situation changed
[10:39] <hrw> infinity: maybe one day I will find a use for laptop other then 'machine for use at conference' - then I will look at something fast
[10:39] <infinity> (Though my test bench does have a decent enough 24inch HDMI 1080p screen that mostly sits idle)
[10:40] <infinity> If my laptop didn't have the evil hybrid graphics setup of doom, I'd use it as a second display...
[10:40] <hrw> intelvidia?
[10:41] <infinity> Yeah.
[10:41] <infinity> I run it straight Intel to save battery life and my sanity.
[10:41] <infinity> But the displayport connector no workie unless you're in nvidia mode, or some such.
[10:41] <infinity> Silly setup.
[10:41] <hrw> you get what you paid or sth like that
[10:42] <infinity> There wasn't a pure Intel option on the laptop I wanted.  Such is life.
[10:42] <infinity> External displays aren't important to me anyway.
[10:42] <hrw> infinity: which model you have?
[10:42] <infinity> T420s
[10:43] <infinity> And I should revise that.  If I'd customised online, I think I could have gotten an Intel-only setup (maybe), but I was buying retail in HK.
[10:43] <hrw> (gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0:3644): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/gdk-pixbuf-
[10:43] <hrw> 2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory
[10:44] <hrw> and 'gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache' hint is useless as command is not present...
[10:44] <hrw> life.
[10:52] <XorA> hrw: did you cut off the USB part?
[10:52] <hrw> XorA: not yet but plan to
[11:34] <hrw> fun. linux-next on chromebook shuts it down during bootup
[12:08] <XorA> hrw: multitasking in action
[21:09] <chilicuil> hi there, I'm trying to recover android in my nexus 7 after an unsucessfull try for ubuntu-arm and it's talking so much time, I've looked at ps and it seems a have a 'D+' which stand for 'uninterruptible sleep', do any of you had any similar problem?
[21:30] <chilicuil> so, after rebooting with another kernel, and retrying the procedure, it agains hangs at $ fastboot -w update image.zip, this time however I could launch strace, and this is its output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5649198/ after the last line, it just stay in the 'D+' state and it doesn't show more output
[22:21] <chilicuil> ok, I think I got it know, it seems like the usb subsystem is very delicate, this time I made sure the tablet didn't move even a milimeter and it worked


[07:58] <ara> good morning!
[07:58]  * ara sees that the ISOs are about to be respin
[09:20] <ara> hello!
[09:20] <ara> who's taking care of the 10.04.1 release process?
[09:37] <ara> slangasek, is that you? ^
[10:20] <Laney> ara: I think robbiew
[10:20] <ara> Laney, thanks :)
[11:07] <Riddell> gosh, mysterious appearance of lucid .1 candidates
[11:07] <Riddell> spooky
[11:30] <cjwatson> stgraber,highvoltage: done
[11:34] <cjwatson> (edubuntu oem)
[12:45] <highvoltage> cjwatson: just saw the mails, thanks!
[14:45] <ScottK> Riddell: There were supposed to be Kubuntu Netbook images too.  Not sure if they are done, but not on the tracker or not done.
[14:59] <cjwatson> ScottK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseManifest doesn't list Kubuntu Netbook as LTS?  (similarly, no .1 images for Ubuntu Netbook at the moment)
[15:00] <cjwatson> I don't mind spinning them; not sure what their status wrt releasing should be
[15:00] <ScottK> cjwatson: It's not an LTS, but we discussed respinning it before.
[15:00] <ScottK> IIRC the conclusion was that if I could get it tested, then it could be released.
[15:02] <cjwatson> well, I don't mind giving it a shot - spinning
[15:02] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:37] <ScottK> cjwatson: Kubuntu Netbook respin didn't end well and I don't know enough about the build system to have a clue what to make from the log.
[15:38] <cjwatson> let's see
[15:39] <cjwatson> my bad, missed an argument
[15:39] <cjwatson> built the livefs for maverick by mistake
[16:12] <ScottK> Thanks.
[16:57] <cjwatson> W: Failed to fetch file:/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ftp-universe/dists/lucid-proposed/Release  Unable to find expected entry  universe/debian-installer/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release fil
[16:57] <cjwatson> e?)
[16:57] <cjwatson> sigh, what now
[16:59] <cjwatson> looks like a soyuz bug ...?
[17:00] <cjwatson> universe/debian-installer/binary-i386/Packages (but not .gz or .bz2) is genuinely missing from dists/lucid-proposed/Release (but not lucid or lucid-updates)
[17:00]  * cjwatson pulls lp source to try to figure out how this works
[17:48] <cjwatson> oh, it's *that* problem.  deleting udebs from proposed is problematic :-/
[17:49] <cjwatson> (because if you get down to zero udebs in a particular component, then it removes Packages but forgets to remove Packages.gz and Packages.bz2)
[17:53]  * cjwatson nukes dists/lucid-proposed/universe/debian-installer and lets the next publisher run sort it out
[18:20]  * ScottK is reading all the "Multi-touch is in Maverick" stuff on p.u.c and trying to figure out where it is and does the release team need to look at anything?
[18:44] <slangasek> ara: I'm "taking care" of the release process, though the hand-off has been rockier than hoped
[19:07] <ara> slangasek, OK, thanks
[20:13] <ScottK> Did Kubuntu Netbook get spun yet?
[20:40] <slangasek> ScottK: doesn't appear so.  This is wanted for i386, yes?
[20:40] <ScottK> slangasek: And armel too.
[20:41] <slangasek> hmm, ok
[20:41] <slangasek> need to run that as two jobs; poking
[20:41] <ScottK> Thanks.  The armel one is lower priority, but it has had some interest, so I'd like to see if we can get it updated and tested.
[20:43] <slangasek> ok, I think this will work
[20:45] <slangasek> lamont: I think I may have accidentally triggered some broken build attempts on acorn; could you find anything queued there with 'lucid' as its target and shoot it in the head?
[20:47] <lamont> slangasek: looking now
[20:48] <slangasek> ta
[20:48] <lamont> slangasek: just fyi - lp-buildd rollout happening shorlty
[20:48] <slangasek> lamont: only thing I care about right now are livefs builders; are those impacted?
[20:49] <ScottK> slangasek: Can I ignore these failure logs rolling into my inbox?
[20:49] <lamont> slangasek: maverick kubuntu-netbook running nwo
[20:49] <lamont> slangasek: livefs is untouched
[20:49] <slangasek> lamont: see the old jobs killed, thanks - the new ones I've just launched should not be killed :)
[20:49] <slangasek> ScottK: yep
[20:50] <lamont> slangasek: picky picky. :-p
[20:50] <ScottK> Thanks.
[21:04] <lamont> buildd world on manual
[23:26] <ScottK> OK.  Apparently the release team either doesn't need to be consulted or the consulation isn't documented on multi-touch.
[23:26]  * ScottK considers just marking all the pending FFe's approved in fairness.
[23:28] <robbiew> ScottK: huh?
[23:29] <robbiew> that stuff was in before FF


[22:56] <Zackfett> Delvien: i have
[22:56] <eth01> rww: i thought there was a version for ubuntu?
[22:56] <exodus_ms> eli: what kind of dvd's
[22:56] <eth01> rww: alternatives would be, though?
[22:56] <Delvien> Zackfett: Did you fix it?
[22:56] <Zackfett> nope
[22:56] <mib_sgglsf> no adium for ubuntu
[22:56] <Delvien> Zackfett: what kind of PC?
[22:56] <eli> exodus_ms: DVD-r
[22:57] <Zackfett> some old one made for windows millenium
[22:57] <eli> exodus_ms: I also have dvd-RW and dvd+R as well
[22:57] <rww> eth01: not as far as I know. Adium makes extensive use of Apple's non-free libraries, so I doubt it'd ever happen. Alternatives would be Pidgin or Empathy for GNOME.
[22:57] <hrasko> hi
[22:57] <Blister> Photoshop
[22:57] <exodus_ms> eli: are you trying to create your own dvd from a recording i.e. camcorder, or backup?
[22:57] <curt> could someone point me to an article on how to configure two computers on a home netowrk so that the users´ home directory follows them between computers?
[22:57] <Blister> Dose photoshop work on WINE "out of the box" ????
[22:58] <Delvien> Zackfett: what kind of Mother board?
[22:58] <puppiesRcute> hello i was wondering i tried virtual box to load up my windows iso and with every os i try to run a error pops up each time even with linux iso's
[22:58] <rww> !appdb | Blister
[22:58] <hrasko> I just wanted to sign up
[22:58] <eli> exodus_ms: camcorder, the file is in avi format
[22:58] <Slart> curt: will you be using one as some kind of always on-server?
[22:58] <kitche> Blister: depends on which photoshop
[22:58] <Zackfett> last i checked a yellow one
[22:58] <rww> puppiesRcute: what error message do you get?
[22:58] <curt> Slart: yes
[22:58] <Delvien> Zackfett: .....
[22:58] <exodus_ms> eli: have you tried Kino?
[22:58] <Blister> kitche, its photoshop 7
[22:58] <Slart> curt: I would export the home folder using nfs..
[22:58] <Blister> but i may be abel to get hold of CS3
[22:58] <puppiesRcute> let me check real quick cant think of what it exactly says its all over the forums though same message
[22:58] <hrasko> I just wanted to sign up to ubuntu brainstorm but I didn't received the 'what-to-do-next' e-mail
[22:58] <Zackfett> i installed my 160 gbyte hard drive and my mother board is just yellow
[22:58] <heath|OTG> hello... is anyone running ubuntu on a LCD TV?
[22:59] <mib_sgglsf> hi hrasko
[22:59] <Slart> curt: and you're sure you want the same settings, same software etc on both computers?
[22:59] <mib_sgglsf> no sign up needed
[22:59] <mib_sgglsf> just ask
[22:59] <Zackfett> im good with computers just i dont know what you mean
[22:59] <eli> exodus_ms: well I'd rather try to get the out-of-box to work so that it is easier for people I meet to make dvds
[22:59] <Bart_> Blister, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2631
[22:59] <curt> Slart: sure
[22:59] <Blister> do you know any good sites to help a newbie to get to grips with the basics of using WINE ?
[22:59] <Bart_> Blister, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6584
[22:59] <Slart> curt: or is this for the purpose of sharing documents and such?
[22:59] <hrasko> hi mib_sgglsf, but I found the mail server that sends those e-mails is not configyured correctly
[22:59] <rww> hrasko: ask in #ubuntu-brainstorm
[23:00] <SlimeyPete> !wine
[23:00] <Bart_> Blister, install it ( apt-get install wine) and use it ..
[23:00] <zamba> i need to backup all my data (most importantly contacts and smses) from my sony ericsson mobile phone.. how do you suggest i do this?
[23:00] <eli> exodus_ms: its also wierd in that the properties menu is disabled when using a video project
[23:00] <rww> Blister: The people in #winedb might know thart sort of thing better than us :)
[23:00] <Slart> #winehq
[23:00] <exodus_ms> eli: what app are you trying to use
[23:00] <Blister> thank you rww
[23:00] <Delvien> Zackfett: If you dont know what i mean by "what kind of motherboard do you have" then I wont be able to diagnose the problem.
[23:00] <rww> Blister: #winehq **
[23:00] <hrasko> ok, hanks, just wanted to let to know someone that the mailserver is not confogured ok
[23:00] <mib_sgglsf> hrasko: thanks
[23:00] <erisco> how can I get the input of my TV card to be outputted through my onboard?
[23:00] <eli> exodus_ms: brasero
[23:00] <erisco> does that make sense?
[23:00] <curt> Slart: well, there are 5 family members sharing the 2 computers. It would be ideal if their documents and configurations could follow themback and forth between computers
[23:00] <hrasko> so I'll try ubuntu_brainstorm channel
[23:01] <thebigham> hello, how do you change the network management password. i'm not sure if thats wat its called. It the thing that pops up when you login, and asks for the password inorder to connect to a wireless network.
[23:01] <eth01> rww: i have also noticed that at login the password entry is just blank? (even if i enter the password)
[23:01] <Slart> curt: ok, you need to install the nfs server parts on the computer where the actual files will be stored.. the server machine or whatever we're going to call it
[23:01] <ikter> hello
[23:01] <curt> Slart: ok
[23:01] <rio> hi, my brightness-control doesnt work anymore, any hints?
[23:01] <ikter> me newbie
[23:01] <puppiesRcute> VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel, e.g. virtualbox-ose-modules-generic..
[23:01] <puppiesRcute> VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED).
[23:01] <puppiesRcute> Result Code:
[23:01] <puppiesRcute> 0x80004005
[23:01] <puppiesRcute> Component:
[23:01] <FloodBot2> puppiesRcute: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:01] <Slart> curt: so, "sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server" will do that
[23:02] <eli> exodus_ms: according to brasero's help "In order to use all the potential of the video project, you need to install all GStreamer's plugins, ffmpeg, vcdimager and dvdauthor. See your operating system documentation for more information on how to install all these applications." I have installed all of these dependancies and it still does not function
[23:02] <ikter> want to get help in way to make webcam working with kopete
[23:02] <tkach>  I can't hear any sound. I just reinstalled 8.04 and no luck. I checked every single volume level...again, no dice. Is this most likely a hardware problem, what else can I try. (note: this is an old dell computer with a basic sound blaster card)
[23:02] <ikter> any clues ?
[23:02] <thebigham> hello, how do you change the network management password. i'm not sure if thats wat its called. It the thing that pops up when you login, and asks for the password inorder to connect to a wireless network.
[23:02] <mib_sgglsf> ikter: have you added the driver for the old soundblaster crd?
[23:02] <ikter> no
[23:02] <curt> Slart: ok. what next?
[23:03] <ikter> the only error i get is the jasper
[23:03] <enry> i have to do two command at startup
[23:03] <ikter> witch i install allready
[23:03] <Slart> curt: "gksudo gedit /etc/exports"
[23:03] <rww> puppiesRcute: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[23:03] <ikter> using synaptic package manager
[23:03] <Slart> curt: should bring up some text.. some examples and comments
[23:03] <mib_sgglsf> ikter: so i have an old SB too.  figure out what kind it is, do a #modprobe <x>   where x is driver name , such as snd-sb16   for the old 16bit card
[23:03] <rww> eth01: you mean the GNOME graphical login? or some other login?
[23:03] <curt> Slart: i am writing this down because I am going to set it up later
[23:04] <mib_sgglsf> then try alsamixer
[23:04] <heath|OTG> Is anyone running ubuntu on an HDTV?
[23:04] <ikter> dude, use to work before
[23:04] <Slart> curt: ok.. this file (/etc/exports) defines what folders are shared, who gets to use them and so on
[23:04] <exodus_ms> eli: there are several really good apps you could use besides brasero, just because they are not installed by default soes not mean they will not work 'out-of-the-box' have you tried DeVeDe, QDVDAuthor, DVDStyler, AcidRip, and DVD::Rip.
[23:04] <ikter> i had in the past installed on the same computer
[23:04] <ikter> linux
[23:04] <ikter> ubuntu 8.10
[23:04] <curt> Slart: ok, seems clear enough
[23:04] <Slart> curt: does the other computer have a fixed ip-number?
[23:05] <ikter> using wubi
[23:05] <mib_sgglsf> ikter : cant tell u why it suddenly doesnt work.  thats all I know -- how i got MINE to work
[23:05] <ikter> no problems with kopete
[23:05] <curt> Slart: I can set it up with one
[23:05] <ikter> now since something changed, i cannot handle anymore :)
[23:05] <Slart> curt: and is the local network reasonably safe?
[23:05] <eli> I have tried  DeVeDe, QDVDAuthor, and DVD::Rip and they don't seem to function ass well + they have glitches
[23:05] <curt> Slart: yeah, local netwrok is safe
[23:05] <mib_sgglsf> ikter: sorry :(   anyone else know what kopete couldv'e changed???
[23:06] <ikter> :(
[23:06] <lacita> What's the command to identify what version I'm running?
[23:06] <ikter> i read over the internet about the jasper...
[23:06] <rww> !version | lacita
[23:06] <syn-fin> how to restart x11 from CLI?
[23:06] <ikter> i install it...
[23:06] <ikter> still doesn't work :(
[23:06] <tritium> syn-fin: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[23:06] <ikter> if i invite someone, nothing happens
[23:06] <Slart> curt: what I've done on my home network is simple add a line such as this one "/media/disk    <IP_ADDRESS>(rw,sync)"
[23:07] <ikter> but when i go to configure menu
[23:07] <Slart> curt: this allows the computer with that ip access to the folder /media/disk
[23:07] <erisco> I have input coming in on my TV card. how can I view it on ubuntu?
[23:07] <ikter> on video, my webcam is turning ok
[23:07] <ikter> on**
[23:07] <ikter> that means kopete actually sees the webcam
[23:07] <Slart> curt: if you're more paranoid than I am you can add all kinds of security to this.. you'll have to read the nfs manual if you want to know how to set that up
[23:07] <curt> Slart: ok
[23:08] <curt> Slart: then getting the folder to auto mount on the other computer?
[23:08] <ikter> it's not about just the stupid webcam, just that i want to figure it out :D
[23:08] <Slart> curt: ah... first we have to do one more thing on the server
[23:08] <ikter> and i don't know how
[23:08] <curt> Slart: ok
[23:08] <mib_sgglsf> ikter: one other thing to try: if sound used to work, and driver is NOT needed, did you check PREFs>SOUND to make sure its not set to AUTODETECT but rather to ALSA
[23:08] <Slart> curt: you have to run "sudo exportfs" to make the it read the file and share the folders accordingly
[23:10] <Slart> curt: now.. I'm not entirely sure on how to do this for multiple users.. I've just added a line in my /etc/fstab that looks like this.."<IP_ADDRESS>:/media/disk/markus /home/markus/markus@comp01 nfs rw 0 0"
[23:10] <erisco> I have input coming in on my TV card. how can I view it on ubuntu?
[23:10] <curt> Slart: ok, maybe some googling will turn up some answers
[23:11] <Gletob> erisco: what model is it
[23:11] <Slart> curt: that will mount the folder /media/disk/markus on my server (<IP_ADDRESS>) to /home/markus/markus@comp01 on my desktop
[23:11] <erisco> Gletob, its a haupagge
[23:11] <Slart> curt: I almost think you'll have to mount the folder with all the home folders as /home
[23:11] <Gletob> erisco: what model?
[23:12] <ikter> on the configuration i have only "accounts, contact list, status, chat window, video and plugins"
[23:12] <Slart> curt: so you don't mount each home folder separately..
[23:12] <Turno1> erisco: do you know the model? is it an internal card, or an external usb device?
[23:12] <ikter> noting about sound :S
[23:12] <xoc> I have ubuntu and I cannot install vlc using sudo apt-get install vlc
[23:12] <erisco> Turno1, Gletob, its an internal card. I will see if I can find the model on it
[23:12] <curt> Slart: ok
[23:12] <xoc> it says vlc-nox has stuff it cannot install
[23:12] <Slart> curt: and of course.. ubottu will gladly hand out advice.. !nfs is a good place to start
[23:12] <Slart> !nfs | curt
[23:12] <bearhunter> wat wit flash and ubunutu crash
[23:13] <bearhunter> someone tell me wtf is up
[23:13] <ikter> xoc, use the add/remove
[23:13] <bearhunter> please..
[23:13] <erisco> Turno1, Gletob, its upside down and I cannot see it at the moment. how will the particular model help?
[23:13] <xoc> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[23:13] <xoc> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[23:13] <tritium> bearhunter: English, please
[23:13] <xoc> that package should be filed.
[23:13] <ikter> and search for vlc and aply install
[23:13] <aberratic> ihj
[23:13] <aberratic> nvm
[23:13] <erisco> Turno1, Gletob, I tried viewing it in Totem but it said "Totem is missing a channels listing to be able to tune the receiver."
[23:13] <Slart> bearhunter: easy now.. breathe in.. breathe out... now, tell us what's wrong.. details are good, versions are good etc
[23:13] <curt> Slart: something else occurred to me as well. the server should probably manage the user accounts
[23:13] <Turno1> erisco: because there are a couple of very different types of tuner cards, knowing what you have is helpful
[23:13] <Gletob> erisco different models have different components, driver requirements, and configurations
[23:14] <curt> Slart: in case someone changes their password and such
[23:14] <Skkyt> Is there an app that takes all files in a given folder and can rename them based on a certain specification?  Like image001.jpg, image002.jpg etc?
[23:14] <Turno1> erisco: thats good, it sounds like your card is working, you just need to scan for channels
[23:14] <ubuntu__> can anyone tell me how to configure sound on a dell latitude d830
[23:14] <erisco> Turno1, Gletob, well I tried w_scan but it complains that my device is the "wrong type"
[23:14] <Slart> curt: well.. yes.. that might be a good idea.. since it's only 2 computers changing the passwords manually might not be that hard.. but setting up some kind of server based login would be fancy =)
[23:14] <xoc> ok thanks
[23:15] <kitche> Skkyt: you could write a small i loop to do that
[23:15] <erisco> Turno1, Gletob, http://pastey.net/105622
[23:15] <Unknownuser56> In case of FHSS the data ( of a package,let's say ) is sent in one frequency whilein DSS the data of the package is sent in different channel frequencies ,correct ?
[23:15] <erisco> Turno1, Gletob, if you really need that model number I will have to shutdown and get back to you
[23:15] <bearhunter> i forggot that the flash problem with  ubuntu didnt exist hardy hr har
[23:15] <Slart> curt: I'm not really sure on how to set that up though.. never messed with centralized user management in linux
[23:16] <Gletob> erisco: if it's an internal card put the output of lspci on pastey
[23:16] <curt> Slart: Iĺl go for fancy. The users are not very computer-literate and I live 6 hours away
[23:16] <erisco> Turno1, Gletob, HDTV MVR 1800
[23:16] <curt> Slart: fancy is always more fun anyways
[23:16] <erisco> sorry lol
[23:16] <seek_therapy> is Ubuntu  dapper , gutsy or feisty?
[23:16] <Slart> curt: =)
[23:16] <funkapus> anyone able to get vpnc working recently?  i had it working successfully a few weeks ago, but it's badly broken now (since i moved off networkmanager to /etc/network/interfaces; tried going back to networkmanager too, with no joy).
[23:16] <erisco> Turno1, Gletob, Win-TV HVR 1800
[23:17] <Slart> seek_therapy: those are all versions of ubuntu
[23:17] <Turno1> erisco: okay, hang on one second while i look that up
[23:17] <Slart> seek_therapy: the latest one is intrepid
[23:17] <rio> on my thinkpad r61, the brightness control doesnt work anymore, is there a fix for this behavior? :(
[23:17] <exodus_ms> seek_therapy: Intrepid is newest version
[23:17] <seek_therapy> ok
[23:17] <seek_therapy> thanks
[23:17] <rww> seek_therapy: You might find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Releases useful :)
[23:17] <ikter> anyone can help me regarding the webcam on kopete ?
[23:17] <rww> seek_therapy: eek, sorry, wrong link
[23:17] <curt> Slart: thanks a ton for your help. got me off to a good start. Iḿ relatively new to linux and I'm loving Ubuntu
[23:17] <erisco> Turno1, Gletob, http://pastey.net/105623
[23:17] <ikter> just doesn't work
[23:17] <Slart> seek_therapy: here's a list of all the versions.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ubuntu
[23:17] <mker> Does anyone use disk encryption? I'd like to hear if (or how much) it slows down your system. I'm using an Intel Core2Duo4500 @ 2.20 Ghz. Would I for example be able to use bittorrent at 10mb/s (both up and down full speed) while watching an HD movie in x264?
[23:17] <rww> seek_therapy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[23:18] <Slart> curt: you're welcome, hope you get your little network up and running.. fancy style =)
[23:19] <seek_therapy> because i upgraded my cousins version of Ubuntu and her sound isnt working
[23:19] <erisco> Gletob, did the paste help you?
[23:19] <tkzao> http://www.sexy-lena.com/?uid=36564
[23:19] <mib_sgglsf> ikter: and u checked sound preferences from main system menu?
[23:19] <mib_sgglsf> ikter: for ALSA and NOT auto detect?
[23:19] <ikter> i will now
[23:19] <Unknownuser56> In case of FHSS the entire data ( of a package,let's say ) is sent in one frequency while in DSDS the data of the package is sent in different channel frequencies ,correct ?
[23:20] <vesayth> Hello! I need some help with installing a wireless network card (WMP300N by Linksys). I installed ndiswrapper and installed the windows wireless driver from the cd, and verified it with 'ndiswrapper -l.' When I try to use ndiswrraper -m I get two copies of the message: 'module configuration already contains alias directive.' I have no Enable Wireless option when i right click my network manager icon. Anyone have any ideas?
[23:20] <Unknownuser56> +DSSS
[23:20] <user_> mker: you may ask in truecrypt channel f.e.
[23:20] <Turno1> erisco : http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_HVR-1800
[23:20] <mker> user_, I'm wondering about the one used in ubuntu installer (dm-crypt is it?) not truecrypt.
[23:21] <Turno1> erisco : it looks like you will need to get a little dirty to get your tuner to work
[23:21] <erisco> Turno1, kernel recompilation?
[23:21] <ikter> mib_sgglsf: should i change all of them to ALSA ?
[23:21] <user_> mker: then that one :-)
[23:21] <erisco> Turno1, I am not going that far =\
[23:21] <Turno1> erisco : so say the mythtv guys, and they are the largest community of tv tuner using folks in linux
[23:22] <mib_sgglsf> ikter: thats what worked for ME
[23:22] <Turno1> erisco : it looks like you will need to at least compile the latest version of v4l-dvb
[23:22] <Gletob> erisco could you install mplayer from the repos please
[23:22] <mib_sgglsf> but no guarantees ;)
[23:22] <laderius> Whats something for ubuntu to kinda spice up the desktop?
[23:22] <mker> user_, well, I am in that channel right now?
[23:22] <ikter> ok
[23:22] <ikter> i will try now
[23:22] <ikter> all are ALSA
[23:22] <erisco> Gletob, I have it installed
[23:22] <Unknownuser56> In case of FHSS the entire data ( of a package,let's say ) is sent in one frequency from whereafter it changes the channel frequency while in DSSS the data of the package is sent in different channel frequencies ,correct ?
[23:23] <rww> !ot | Unknownuser56
[23:23] <tkzao> http://www.sexy-lena.com/?uid=36564
[23:23] <Gletob> erisco: run "mplayer tv://dev/video0"
[23:23] <ikter> doesn't work :(
[23:24] <erisco> Gletob, random static
[23:24] <thebigham> How do you auto mount the windows partition?
[23:24] <erisco> Gletob, mostly green
[23:24] <user_> mker: here in #ubuntu so far noone answered, so you could check for a #dm-crypt channel or check their maillist archives for figures
[23:24] <mib_sgglsf> cool it tzkao
[23:24] <rww> thebigham: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[23:24] <erisco> Gletob, that may not be the right device though...
[23:24] <lacita> Ok, so now I have to suspend my machine to get the audio working. WTF?
[23:24] <vesayth> Or are there any channels that are specifically for wireless networking problems?
[23:25] <Gletob> erisco: try "mplayer pvr://dev/video0"
[23:25] <Unknownuser56> rww,not off-topic,if you can't even give constructive critisism,then don
[23:25] <Unknownuser56> t
[23:25] <erisco> Gletob, the device that w_scan reports is /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0
[23:25] <mib_sgglsf> ikter: i'm sorry... from here thats all i could think of; not that familiar with kopete -- I just know,like i said, that older soundblasters sometimes require a differetn driver.  BUT -- if you had it already working, i'm not sure what got broken
[23:26] <lacita> #no
[23:26] <erisco> Gletob, with "PVR" [encoder] device do not support MPEG input.
[23:26] <billybigrigger> how do i set my default torrent client?
[23:26] <Slart> Unknownuser56: we try to keep this channel for ubuntu-support only
[23:26] <Gletob> erisco: run "mplayer tv://dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0" and see what that dows
[23:26] <Turno1> erisco : this forum thread looks helpful, but it's a little old
[23:26] <Turno1> erisco : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=550276
[23:26] <erisco> Gletob, same green static
[23:27] <Slart> Unknownuser56: the channel is crowded and busy as it is
[23:27] <Trenter> Question:  I have been using wine a lot recently and I've uninstalled a lot programs that do not work.  Is there some sort of bug that keeps programs in the "programs" section of wine even after I have uninstalled them through the wine uninstaller?
[23:27] <erisco> Gletob, it is output from an xbox, if that helps
[23:27] <yaris123456789> hey guys i am moving lot of image files from one server to another. but if i wget too fast, the server automatically throttles it. i cannot control the server hosting the image. so how to speed up this process without waiting 2 days for everything to transfer? run multiple instances of wget?
[23:27] <nbeebo> i want my speaker output to also be my microphone input, what can i do?
[23:27] <ikter> on the other hand, when another person is inviting me, it pop up the message, but when i accept... nothing happens :(
[23:28] <Turno1> Gletob: he may just need to select svideo or composite....
[23:28] <AndreasMadrid> hi
[23:28] <Slart> Trenter: mm.. it does that for me too.. don't know if it's a bug or just an unimplemented feature.. you can edit the menu if you want.. or ask in #winehq for advice
[23:28] <johnzorn> anyone one use the closed source version virtualbox 2.1?
[23:28] <Turno1> erisco : how is the xbox connected to the tuner? composite (yellow), svideo or coax?
[23:28] <erisco> Turno1, I bookmarked it, thanks
[23:28] <AndreasMadrid> where does ubuntu get the weather information from?
[23:28] <mib_sgglsf> anyone know where Ikter can go for help with Kopete?
[23:28] <rww> Trenter: yeah, there is. One of the subfolders of /home/yourusername/.local/ has all the icons in it; I deleted them from there and they went away.
[23:28] <erisco> Turno1, composite
[23:28] <Turno1> erisco : lets see real quick about just selecting the composite input
[23:29] <AndreasMadrid> it's fine for most places but for Berlin Germany it's totally wrong, always
[23:29] <Turno1> erisco : i have no idea how to do that with mplayer
[23:29] <Slart> yaris123456789: that might be one way.. if the server doesn't realise both connections are from the same ip
[23:29] <ensay> yaris123456789 -> both ends you own and they are on same room?
[23:29] <rww> Trenter: (.local is hidden in the GUI File Browser by default; press Ctrl-H to show hidden files.)
[23:29] <Turno1> erisco : ;) hang on
[23:29] <ikter> webcam doesn't work on kopete :(
[23:29] <erisco> Turno1, I can also do svideo (that is the circular one right?) because I have an adapter
[23:29] <Slart> AndreasMadrid: doesn't it say somewhere in the preferences for the weather thingy?
[23:29] <ubuntu_noob> which module on the 8.10 livecd is for ext4? I need to mount a partition... ext4dev doesn't work :/
[23:29] <yaris123456789> Slart: yes
[23:29] <erisco> Turno1, this all started when I mistook HDMI for meaning "the xbox comes with an HDMI cable"
[23:29] <mib_sgglsf> ikter:  sorry again.  have to log off...   good luck!
[23:29] <ubuntu_noob> hi :)
[23:30] <erisco> Turno1, so my monitor does not take it :P it'll be quite a while till I can get anywhere to find an appropriate adapter for it too, so
[23:30] <ikter> thx for help
[23:30] <kitche> ubuntu_noob: why not just mount the partition as ext3?
[23:30] <ikter> bye
[23:30] <Turno1> erisco : so you really just need a hdmi cable?
[23:30] <AndreasMadrid> Slart: dunno. i just found the option to show weather, togetzher with the time and date, but not, where the info comes from. For madrid it's accurate, but for Berlin it shows 4°C whereas it's actually -11°C
[23:30] <Turno1> erisco : cause that would be so much simpler
[23:30] <AndreasMadrid> and not only today
[23:31] <Bart_> Question: When I unload a module with  modprobe -r ***  is the device turned off?
[23:31] <erisco> Turno1, I know, but it will be at least a week until I can get one
[23:31] <ubuntu_noob> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2,
[23:31] <erisco> Turno1, so I dug up a TV card and was hoping that'd do it
[23:31] <ubuntu_noob> doesn't work
[23:31] <Trenter> That did it, thanks rww
[23:31] <ubuntu_noob> the partition was formatted with 2.6.28 ext4 module
[23:31] <Slart> AndreasMadrid: hmm.. I searched the preferences box and there's no urls or anything.. perhaps some wiretapping might tell us what url it goes to
[23:31] <laderius> My video card drivers are apparently reset, it said an error at startup saying it could not communiticate with my gfx card now my resloution is very large and im not sure how to fix it.
[23:31] <erisco> Turno1, and I don't need an hdmi cable, I need an hdmi adapter, from composite to hdmi
[23:31] <Pir8> Is it possible to have ubuntu auto-login to the wifi network, without the user logging into GDM ?
[23:32] <Pir8> s/auto-login/auto-connect/
[23:32] <hrasko_> Hi, I'm here again since no one responded me on ubuntu-brainstorm channel
[23:32] <ubuntu_noob> well I tried: mount -o ro -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mnt/data/
[23:32] <exodus_ms> is there a way I can configure the terminal to use 'split-windows' similar to irssi?
[23:32] <Turno1> erisco : you know the picture you're going to get with your tv tuner will not be HD, right?
[23:32] <Bart_> Simpele?? question: When I unload a module with  modprobe -r ***  is the device turned off?
[23:32] <kitche> ubuntu_noob: should work considering ext4 is backwards compatible but I believe ubuntu doesn't support ext4 yet but if you do mount -t ext4 it should auto load th ext4 module
[23:32] <funkja> How can I change the swap partition that ubuntu is using?
[23:32] <erisco> Turno1, if I can see my xbox display, yes :P
[23:32] <AndreasMadrid> Slart dunno about that, am pretty nooob. Just wanted to report to you guys that it works fine for other destinations that i treid, but that fpr Berlin it's been way too high for days now. Maybe someone relies on it...
[23:33] <hrasko_> the mailserver that sends e-mails from brainstorm registration process is not configured properly
[23:33] <kitche> funkja: by using swapon <device> swapoff <old swap> and chaning the line in /etc/fstab
[23:33] <ubuntu_noob> I checked the lib/modules folder on the lifecd but only ext4dev, so I did modprobe ext4dev and doesn't :/
[23:33] <Slart> AndreasMadrid: I doubt NASA is using the weather applet to time their launches.. =) I'll see if I can find where it comes from though..
[23:33] <hrasko_> someone should fix it I guess
[23:33] <erisco> Turno1, well, I have the info I need to compile the drivers. I will try to work that out.
[23:33] <ubuntu_noob> doesn't work, but module loaded correctly
[23:33] <b1gbawx> ever since i selected x windows to not load on startup my usb external harddrive wont load while in x. how to i set it to load usb once x loads
[23:34] <laderius> My video card drivers are apparently reset, it said an error at startup saying it could not communiticate with my gfx card now my resloution is very large and im not sure how to fix it.
[23:34] <ubuntu_noob> comes back with unknown fs type
[23:34] <Turno1> erisco : wait just a second
[23:35] <erisco> Turno1, okay
[23:35] <ubuntu_noob> that's 2.6.27-7-generic on the cd
[23:35] <erisco> Turno1, the xbox output cable has a switch. "tv" or "hdmi"
[23:35] <rww> hrasko_: Brainstorm discussion in #ubuntu-brainstorm , not here :)
[23:35] <laeg> !bluetooth
[23:35] <gogereaver> xbox lol
[23:35] <erisco> Turno1, I tried it on both modes but still green static from mplayer
[23:35] <hrasko_> rww: well well :)
[23:36] <gogereaver> erisco change the mplayer video mode
[23:36] <gogereaver> the xbox does not have 3d drivers
[23:36] <erisco> gogereaver, to what mode?
[23:36] <gogereaver> x11 should work
[23:37] <vesayth> Hello! I need some help with installing a wireless network card (WMP300N by Linksys). I installed ndiswrapper and installed the windows wireless driver from the cd, and verified it with 'ndiswrapper -l.' When I try to use ndiswrraper -m I get two copies of the message: 'module configuration already contains alias directive.' I have no Enable Wireless option when i right click my network manager icon (it's not even grayed out, it's just not t
[23:37] <thebigham> hello, how do you set keyboard short cuts?
[23:37] <erisco> gogereaver, I have X11/Xv, X11 ( XImage/Shm), X11 (OpenGL), X11 (OpenG) multiple textures, and X11 (VIDIX)
[23:37] <gogereaver> try xv
[23:38] <erisco> gogereaver, already on that
[23:38] <gogereaver> then ximage
[23:38] <meekatron> i have a printer installed and working on with cups on machine <IP_ADDRESS>, how can i print from the command line on machine <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:38] <gogereaver> the opengl ones whot work
[23:38] <ubuntu_noob> thanks for help, I reboot to hd then again
[23:38] <gogereaver> you do need to restart mplayer for it to take effect
[23:38] <Paddy_EIRE> meekatron, does it support postscript?
[23:39] <meekatron> yes i think so
[23:39] <erisco> gogereaver, I get nothing but green static
[23:39] <mas2> I just installed Ubuntu. I really want to be able to see my partions (want to see if the default install created a swap partion).
[23:39] <erisco> gogereaver, and I did restart
[23:39] <gogereaver> strange
[23:39] <Turno1> erisco : yeah man, you might want to follow the directions in post 4 of that forum I sent you, but also try a different tv program, cause I can't get totem to work with my tv card either
[23:39] <Paddy_EIRE> meekatron, I cannot remember the exact command
[23:39] <erisco> Turno1, what other TV cards are there?
[23:39] <gogereaver> maybe the video has some cedec issues
[23:39] <Bart_> How do I disable my wireless network hardware????
[23:39] <rww> mas2: sudo fdisk -l at a command-line to see all partitions on all mounted drives.
[23:39] <Paddy_EIRE> meekatron, I will have a google .. 2 mins please
[23:39] <meekatron> Paddy_EIRE: thanks
[23:39] <Turno1> erisco : and I know my tv card works... i'm using an hauppauge hvr 1600, i think
[23:39] <erisco> Turno1, sorry, I mean what other TV programs are there?
[23:40] <gogereaver> have to tryed using vlc
[23:40] <mas2> rww: is -l for list?
[23:40] <rww> mas2: yeah
[23:40] <erisco> gogereaver, is it GUI?
[23:40] <gogereaver> yea
[23:40] <Turno1> gogereaver: i'm trying it with my card right now
[23:40] <Paddy_EIRE> meekatron, have a peek here first till I see if I can find something more substantial.. or fit for your question rather :)
[23:40] <Paddy_EIRE> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[23:41] <gogereaver> oh turno1
[23:41] <mas2> rww:  when I wrote fdisk -l it said can not open dev/sda
[23:41] <gogereaver> yv card?
[23:41] <Turno1> gogereaver: didn't work with mine ;)
[23:41] <gogereaver> tv
[23:41] <rww> mas2: put sudo in front of it: "sudo fdisk -l"
[23:41] <Turno1> gogereaver, erisco : i use mythtv
[23:41] <gogereaver> xawtv and tvtime are god apps to use with a tv card
[23:41] <gogereaver> good
[23:42] <mas2> rww:  thanks!
[23:42] <gogereaver> lighter then myth to
[23:42] <laderius> My Video card drivers have been defaulted to whats seems to be none, i have a very large display... when i installed earlier they worked fine and i updated to the nvidia ones under propierty drivers earlier, now thats not avaible. i have the nvidia drivers installed but my resloution is still really low, how can i fix this?
[23:42] <gogereaver> normaly installing those make myth work to
[23:42] <gogereaver> sence they grab the drivers
[23:42] <Turno1> i have an hvr-950... it's usb... and i had to follow pretty much those directions exactly to get mine working
[23:42] <erisco> Turno1, I am not sure how to open the device correctly with VLC, gogereaver
[23:43] <gogereaver> erisco thought you where using a xbox?
[23:43] <mas2> rww: it doesn't say how big the partions is tho? can I just something like -something to get that?
[23:43] <Vigo> Hello
[23:43] <erisco> gogereaver, yes, so?
[23:43] <gogereaver> thought where whanted video playback
[23:43] <gogereaver> you
[23:43] <erisco> gogereaver, I want my xbox output to play on my screen, yes
[23:43] <gogereaver> ohhhh
[23:44] <gogereaver> 360 or orignal
[23:44] <rww> mas2: For non-swap partitions, "df -H" will do that.
[23:44] <erisco> gogereaver, 360
[23:44] <Slart> AndreasMadrid: seems it's using http://weather.noaa.gov
[23:44] <gogereaver> the 360 should output to a tv just fine built in
[23:44] <Slart> AndreasMadrid: I just thought of something else.. are the coordinates for Berlin correct?
[23:44] <erisco> gogereaver, okay, so how do I get it from my tv card to my screen? that is the issue
[23:44] <gogereaver> but i think its ment for hd
[23:45] <gogereaver> ohhh
[23:45] <gogereaver> not a hacked 460
[23:45] <gogereaver> trying to output a tv card
[23:45] <laderius> My Video card drivers have been defaulted to whats seems to be none, i have a very large display... when i installed earlier they worked fine and i updated to the nvidia ones under propierty drivers earlier, now thats not avaible. i have the nvidia drivers installed but my resloution is still really low, how can i fix this?
[23:45] <erisco> gogereaver, its not hacked, no
[23:45] <gogereaver> sweiswitch the tv cars oinput to componet
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !sparrow has a suggestion for a factoid
[23:45] <Turno1> erisco : try tvtime
[23:45] <gogereaver> switch
[23:46] <Slart> AndreasMadrid: there are more than one Berlin in the lists.. one shows 4C and one -11C..
[23:46] <gogereaver> you just need to change the mode
[23:46] <AndreasMadrid> Slart coordinates are correct. I changed for another Berlin weather station and it works. Seems it's a prob with that specific station
[23:46] <erisco> gogereaver, I am not quite following you
[23:46] <AndreasMadrid> Slart yes.
[23:46] <ym1> hello happy new year
[23:46] <gogereaver> erisco its probly in tv tunermode
[23:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !no, Sparrow has a suggestion for a factoid
[23:46] <erisco> gogereaver, probably. what do I need to do?
[23:47] <Bart_> How do I disable my wireless network hardware????
[23:47] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow, what are you trying to do man?
[23:47] <mib_70r1ae> hello?
[23:47] <ym1> I would like to make myself a present, a laptop that just work under ubuntu, suspend/resume included  :-)
[23:47] <AndreasMadrid> Slart I had chosen Airport Tempelhof as it's closest to my home, and that one was the malfuntioning one. have changed to Tegel now, so i have correct values. Thanks
[23:47] <gogereaver> erisco it should be in the menus somewhere it verys on the softwhere thow
[23:47] <Turno1> gogereaver: i'm in here in vlc and it doesn't have the option to choose the input
[23:47] <ym1> There are several contenders on my list : system 76 (gazelle or pengolin), lenovo (T500)  and dell (xps)
[23:47] <mib_70r1ae> I have a noob question regarding installing Ubuntu?
[23:47] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[23:47] <Slart> AndreasMadrid: yes, those were the ones I checked on the website.. you're welcome
[23:47] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask | mib_70r1ae
[23:47] <caffe> ciao
[23:47] <gogereaver> capture device your tv card souce would be where it can be changed
[23:47] <AndreasMadrid> :-)
[23:48] <mib_70r1ae> umm, can I use a usb drive to install ubuntu on my hd?
[23:48] <Paddy_EIRE> yes
[23:48] <rww> !usb | mib_70r1ae
[23:48] <gogereaver> myth and tvtime can both do this as well
[23:48] <gogereaver> better
[23:48] <Turno1> erisco : would you be willing to try a different program? I think it's more suited to your card
[23:48] <laderius> My Video card drivers have been defaulted to whats seems to be none, i have a very large display... when i installed earlier they worked fine and i updated to the nvidia ones under propierty drivers earlier, now thats not avaible. i have the nvidia drivers installed but my resloution is still really low, how can i fix this?
[23:48] <AndreasMadrid> Slart I'll call the templehof weather stattion maybe they can change that
[23:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE, Hi, yea , we were testing something
[23:48] <exodus_ms> !italian
[23:48] <ym1> I would like to know first if I am missing an excellent laptop ? and then get some feedback from users of one of these 3 laptops.
[23:48] <gogereaver> yea agreed use tvtime for this
[23:48] <funkja> what would happen if I booted without any swap space defined?
[23:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow, ah.. looks like a handy method if that is the usage
[23:49] <mib_70r1ae> and will I be able to use compizfusion well? (I have a 2.5 GHZ amd dual proc with 2 GB of ram and 256 Graphics)
[23:49] <Slart> AndreasMadrid: good idea
[23:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE, They still must be approved before they become a factoid
[23:49] <gogereaver> mob yes very well
[23:49] <erisco> Turno1, I tried tvtime
[23:49] <Turno1> yeah?
[23:49] <erisco> Turno1, got another idea?
[23:49] <gogereaver> mib
[23:49] <Turno1> nope
[23:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow, hell yeah.. otherwise it would be mad :)
[23:49] <rww> funkja: if you have a reasonable amount of memory, it should boot fine. I don't think I have one set up right now, actually...
[23:49] <gogereaver> in tvtime where it says something like ntsc or pal
[23:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE, Yea, it was..
[23:49] <erisco> Turno1, tvtime outputted typical TV static when I selected the television input
[23:49] <gogereaver> use that menu and change it mode
[23:49] <Vigo> I cannot read these little letters,,,brb
[23:49] <erisco> Turno1, and a black screen when I chose composite
[23:49] <Turno1> oh! oh!
[23:50] <Turno1> okay, well then turn on your xbox
[23:50] <gogereaver> you dont whant tv input
[23:50] <erisco> Turno1, it is on...
[23:50] <Turno1> and select tv on that tv / hdmi switch
[23:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow, you accepted factoids before without approval :/
[23:50] <erisco> Turno1, it is switched to TV =\
[23:50] <HacKBoX_> !b43
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE, at one point in time..yes
[23:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow, hehe.. mad
[23:50] <gogereaver> it should be displaying your xbox then
[23:50] <mib_70r1ae> and tell me if this is weird, I run windows vista fine with aeor enabled but when i try to install fedora or mandriva (it doesn't go, the mouse freezes at a black screen)
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !bcm43xx
[23:50] <gogereaver> is the tv part working ?
[23:51] <Turno1> gogereaver: he gets static
[23:51] <erisco> Turno1, I get static and nothing but static heh
[23:51] <dbbolton> can anyone tell me how to create a new user and set the home directory to an existing directory?
[23:51] <HacKBoX_> !bcm43xx
[23:51] <Turno1> erisco: got anything else you could plug up to the composite in real quick?
[23:51] <gogereaver> you dont have it hooked to cable or anything
[23:51] <exodus_ms> mib_70r1ae: have you installed Ubuntu?
[23:51] <kitche> Jack_Sparrow: hmm odd that bcm43xx factoid still exists since bcm43xx driver is deprecited for b43
[23:51] <maxb> Has anyone managed to get suspend/wakeup to work with fglrx in intrepid?
[23:51] <rww> dbbolton: do you want to do that in graphics mode or on the command line?
[23:51] <dbbolton> rww command line
[23:52] <Paddy_EIRE> kitche, tis just as well as it needs style cleanup any way
[23:52] <Turno1> erisco : does the xbox have a screensaver?
[23:52] <dbbolton> rww the gnome users-admin tool wouldn't let me do it
[23:52] <Jack_Sparrow> kitche, bcm43x is the chipset not to be confused with b43 or fwcutter etc
[23:52] <AndreasMadrid> ok, am leaving
[23:52] <AndreasMadrid> bye
[23:52] <gogereaver> yea it sounds like his xbox isnt sending out a single
[23:52] <mib_70r1ae> once i make my usb stick bootable can i still use it to save files on?
[23:52] <laderius> can someone help me reset my drivers
[23:53] <gogereaver> mib yes
[23:53] <kitche> Jack_Sparrow: well the url says Driver so in essence I still think it's confusing I know bc43xx is a chipset sicne I have a broadcom wireless card myself
[23:53] <rww> dbbolton: sudo useradd -d /path/to/home/directory username
[23:53] <FireStorm> something is wrong with my windows because the uninstaller of wubi doesnt work and the wubi installer doesnt work from the site AND on the cd so does anyone know what is required to run the wubi installer/uninstaller... files are md5 checked
[23:53] <erisco> Turno1, it isn't anything like a screensaver
[23:53] <erisco> Turno1, nothing else
[23:53] <dbbolton> rww thanks
[23:53] <mib_70r1ae> gogereaver, do i have to remove the bootable part? or will it work like normal
[23:53] <gogereaver> firestorm you can just delete the files manuly
[23:53] <Turno1> the only other thing i could suggest would be to try svideo
[23:54] <laderius> My Video card drivers have been defaulted to whats seems to be none, i have a very large display... when i installed earlier they worked fine and i updated to the nvidia ones under propierty drivers earlier, now thats not avaible. i have the nvidia drivers installed but my resloution is still really low, how can i fix this?
[23:54] <Turno1> its usually better anyway
[23:54] <gogereaver> delete the image and remove the ubuntu line from the windows boot.ini
[23:54] <Jack_Sparrow> FireStorm, I wont use or recommend wubi..
[23:54] <FireStorm> but i also need to INSTALL
[23:54] <rww> Jack_Sparrow: The more I hang out here, the more I agree with you on that >.>
[23:54] <FireStorm> ya i want to reinstall
[23:54] <Jack_Sparrow> laderius, Which nvidia card
[23:54] <FireStorm> and the wubi installer doesnt run
[23:54] <Vigo> Wowies! is HUGE
[23:55] <rww> Vigo: welcome to the largest channel on Freenode ;)
[23:55] <gogereaver> laderious dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[23:55] <gogereaver> xborg-server
[23:55] <Jack_Sparrow> FireStorm, see the wubi factoid, in general we dont think too highly of it
[23:55] <gogereaver> baa
[23:55] <wj32> rww: yet only a few people are actually talking
[23:55] <gogereaver> you can reset driver setting in there
[23:55] <Vigo> Thank you rww
[23:55] <kitche> rww: there are bigger channels just they are secret anywyas getting offtopic :)
[23:55] <FireStorm> brb dinner
[23:55] <exodus_ms> is there a way to get the terminal to behave like 'Terminator' without running an emulator?
[23:56] <laderius> Jack_Sparrow Nvidia geforce 8800GTS
[23:56] <nbeebo> i want my speaker output to also be my microphone input, what can i do?
[23:56] <unlink> why might i not be getting any signal to my monitor through my DVI cable, but DVI->VGA converter + VGA cable works? I've tried different cables
[23:56] <rww> !info Terminator | exodus_ms, you mean this terminator?
[23:56] <Jack_Sparrow> laderius, sudo nvidia-xconfig from a terminal..
[23:56] <rww> !info terminator | exodus_ms, you mean this terminator?
[23:56] <wj32> nbbebo: what program are you recording with
[23:56] <Paddy_EIRE> exodus_ms, that makes no sense... just install terminator
[23:56]  * rww mutters mean things about case-sensitivity >.>
[23:56] <Jack_Sparrow> laderius, then sudo nvidia-settings
[23:56] <exodus_ms> rww: yes, I have installed terminator but wish not to use emulation
[23:56] <laderius> k sec
[23:57] <Kalisto> hey guys i need some help. i removed a package that tool a ton of packages with it. my system is barely usable. is there a way i can reinstall the removed packages (ie standard ubuntu install)?
[23:57] <nbeebo> wj32, nothing, but if i did would it be easier?
[23:57] <wj32> nbeebo: it should let you select the audio input, and i'm pretty sure they offer wave out
[23:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Kalisto, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:57] <wj32> nbeebo: well, i remember that in windows, audacity let you do that
[23:58] <rww> Kalisto: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-standard ubuntu-minimal
[23:58] <Paddy_EIRE> exodus_ms, explain what you think emulation means?
[23:58] <laderius> Jack_Sparrow Sudo nvidia-settings = command not found
[23:58] <rww> Kalisto: sorry, apt-get, not aptitude
[23:58] <Kalisto> Jack_Sparrow: does ubuntu keep a log of its removed packages?
[23:58] <Kalisto> thanks guys
[23:58] <Jack_Sparrow> laderius, sudo nvidia-xconfig from a terminal.. did that work
[23:58] <laderius> yes
[23:58] <gogereaver> sounds ike the driver install failed
[23:58] <laderius> backed u the file
[23:58] <Vigo> Does apt-get seamonkey 1.1.14 work if I want that browser?
[23:58] <nbeebo> wj32, you understand i mean the sound that comes out of the speaker should also come in my microphone? not the other way around
[23:59] <wj32> nbeebo: oh i see
[23:59] <rww> Kalisto: there's a log of all package actions at /var/log/apt/term.log (try sudo nano /var/log/apt/term.log)
[23:59] <kitche> Vigo: sudo apt-get install seamonkey will install seamonkey
[23:59] <exodus_ms> Paddy_EIRE: I have installed Terminator, just don't want to use a terminal emulator.
[23:59] <nbeebo> wj32, thanks anyway not good at phrasing
[23:59] <Jack_Sparrow> laderius, log out then in and then try to run the second command
[23:59] <Vigo> kitches: Thank you
[23:59] <laderius> brb
[23:59] <Paddy_EIRE> exodus_ms, then how do you intend on running it :/
[23:59] <wj32> nbeebo: uh, you mean you say something into the mic and it comes out your speaker?
[23:59] <gogereaver> exodus you do relese any term in x is a emulator
[23:59] <Paddy_EIRE> exodus_ms, you do realise its built from gnome-terminal
[23:59] <Paddy_EIRE> exodus_ms, which is a terminal emulator