[01:44] <orbin> dooglus: thanks.  i'm blaming you if it stuffs up :)
[01:44] <jsestri2> HotDrive: what do you want to do with Tv?
[01:44] <NoUse> aaron_ a video DVD?
[01:44] <orbin> mike__: goodo....try open a flash site or something
[01:44] <dooglus> orbin: fine.
[01:44] <HotDrive> jses,: see channels
[01:44] <orbin> mike__: you should re-open that file again and change it to: http://pastebin.com/752465
[01:44] <mike__> Orbin: just did and it worked!! thansk a bunch
[01:44] <aaron_> yeah
[01:44] <QMario> How do I start the "sound" daemon in Ubuntu?
[01:44] <LabThug_hm> Sun + Dapper....drooll!!
[01:44] <mike__> Orbin: why am i changing it?
[01:44] <jsestri2> HotDrive: is there a particular reason you want to use TvTime?
[01:44] <NoUse> !tell aaron_ about k9copy
[01:44] <HotDrive> don't know any other... :(
[01:45] <aaron_> how do I get that?
[01:45] <orbin> mike__: the one i gaver you is wrong it seems...may cause problems further down
[01:45] <mike__> ok
[01:45] <NoUse> aaron_ ubotu sent you a link
[01:45] <jsestri2> HotDrive: try VLC media player
[01:45] <klormexor> hey dibblego how ya goin mate
[01:45] <QMario> LabThug_hm, do you mean Sun Java?
[01:45] <orbin> dooglus: is it wise to give him backports?
[01:45] <mike__> Orbin: will i have to re install flash?
[01:45] <jsestri2> HotDrive: what tv card do you have?
[01:45] <orbin> mike__: no
[01:45] <HotDrive> where to get it?
[01:45] <Marlun> orbin: Well I've installed subversion and want to add repositories in /srv/subversion/reponame but I can only add those fodlers as root and if I do I'll get in trouble with permissions.
[01:45] <jsestri2> HotDrive: which card do you have? and have you set it up yet?
[01:45] <gilesw> do i still need to compile from cvs to get xgl to work ?
[01:45] <newcomplexlife1> ok
[01:45] <NoUse> !tell gilesw about xgl
[01:45] <mike__> Orbin: where am i pastign it again?
[01:45] <aaron_> ok I'll try thatt
[01:45] <HotDrive> jsestri2, don't realy know... one make in korea... :)
[01:46] <LabThug_hm> QMario: no, the TX000, I'm going to get one in the next quarter.  The Dapper support was the final nail in the coffin
[01:46] <jsestri2> HotDrive: did you install drivers for it?
[01:46] <orbin> mike__: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:46] <HotDrive> I think Ubuntu has the drivers
[01:46] <johnnybong> newcomplexlifel - strange. could you open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and tell me what driver is shown under the 'device' section.
[01:46] <mike__> Orbin: the thing i am pasting is only 4 lines?
[01:46] <LadyNikon> evening
[01:46] <jsestri2> HotDrive: i don't think so...i use the ivtv driver to watch tv
[01:46] <LadyNikon> question.. on the download page..
[01:47] <HotDrive> when I run "HardInfo" it detects the Tv card
[01:47] <Laervian> thank you anyone, good night
[01:47] <LadyNikon> under the explaination for the server install it says "The server install CD allows you to install Ubuntu permanently on a computer."
[01:47] <LadyNikon> doesnt all of them do that?
[01:47] <jsestri2> HotDrive: do you have a device: /dev/video0 etc?
[01:47] <HotDrive> Its a Philisp SAA7134
[01:47] <joh6nn> i was wondering if there was anyway to get ubuntu to switch back from using /media to using /mnt
[01:47] <wept> what is up with flash audio/video desync?
[01:47] <mike__> Orbin the thing i am copying and pasting is only 4 lines?
[01:47] <wept> its driving me insane.
[01:47] <HotDrive> my /dev/video0 its a webcam
[01:47] <orbin> mike__: yes
[01:47] <mike__> roger
[01:47] <NoUse> LadyNikon yes
[01:47] <orbin> mike__: it's just compacted...
[01:47] <NoUse> !tell LadyNikon about server
[01:47] <jsestri2> HotDrive:well then /dev/video1?
[01:48] <aaron_> sorry, but how do I install it once I've downloaded it?
[01:48] <mike__> Orbin: now save it and apt-update again?
[01:48] <orbin> mike__: save, close, then apt-get update again. yes
[01:48] <HotDrive> how to see witch one is it?
[01:48] <c1> Hello. Is there not a way to specify which drive GRUB is installed on? I didn't notice an option when installing ubuntu. Am I wrong, did I just miss it?
[01:48] <mike__> Orbin: thanks
[01:48] <orbin> mike__: you shouldn't have to touch that file again...hopefully
[01:48] <jsestri2> HotDrive: well if you had VLC media player you could load up each one
[01:48] <DShepherd> aaron_: what do you mean? what are you installing?
[01:48] <mike__> Orbin: i hope lol
[01:48] <orbin> mike__: happy ubuntu'ing!
[01:48] <aaron_> k9copy
[01:48] <JonnyBoy> delire: Here is my Xorg.0.log file
[01:48] <JonnyBoy> delire: http://pastebin.com/752467
[01:48] <kerskine> Did Dapper exclude support for the Netgear WG511 card???
[01:48] <joh6nn> c1: you have more than one bootable drive?
[01:49] <jsestri2> HotDrive: at the command line: sudo apt-get install vlc
[01:49] <DShepherd> aaron_: oh. what's that
[01:49] <orbin> now if only my ISP would host the dapper iso already :-/
[01:49] <LadyNikon> NoUse: i know what the server install is.
[01:49] <aaron_> something that I downloaded from the internet so that I can rip dvd's to my hard drive to make copies of them.
[01:49] <mike__> Orbin: i got an ertror when i apt-get updated
[01:49] <LadyNikon> NoUse: i was referring to the explaination
[01:49] <aaron_> it downloads in a tgz file.
[01:49] <orbin> mike__: what's it say?  (don't paste if more than 3 lines)
[01:49] <HotDrive> jsestri2, Downloading... :)
[01:50] <NoUse> LadyNikon ok, you can email the webmaster or report a bug if you want
[01:50] <joh6nn> aaron_: you'll need to unzip the tgz file somewhere, and then compile the source
[01:50] <mike__> Orbin: mike@mike-desktop:~$ apt-get update
[01:50] <mike__> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[01:50] <mike__> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[01:50] <orbin> kerskine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:50] <NoUse> mike__ close synaptic
[01:50] <johnnybong> HotDrive: if it's a cheapo SAA7134 card like I've got (some K-World / Medion thing), probable that it isn't telling Ubuntu that it's got a tuner fitted, in which case you have to explicitly tell Ubuntu.
[01:50] <orbin> mike__: sudo
[01:50] <NoUse> mike__ and use 'sudo'
[01:50] <ucordes> how can i install a working driver for mobility x700 in recovery mode?
[01:50] <aaron_> compile it how?  with g++?
[01:50] <kerskine> orbin: thx
[01:50] <mike__> Orbin: ok thanks
[01:50] <jsestri2> HotDrive: once it installs you should be able to goto the menu: File->Open Capture Device and then select PVR and try the different /dev/video#'s
[01:50] <joh6nn> aaron_: probably.  either with gcc or g++
[01:50] <johnnybong> First, have a look in /var/log/messages to see any boot messages relating to SAA7134
[01:51] <mike__> Orbin: that worked
[01:51] <cyk> hello
[01:51] <orbin> mike__: ok, done and dusted :)
[01:51] <jsestri2> can anyone here help me with lirc drivers?
[01:51] <HotDrive> ok, I'll try
[01:51] <aaron_> so compile the install file?
[01:51] <cyk> i'm having a bit of trouble installing... on the partitioner, i'm trying to create logical drives
[01:51] <mike__> Orbin: yep thanks again
[01:51] <DShepherd> aaron_: so there's no dvd ripping programs that you like in the ubuntu packages??
[01:51] <orbin> mike__: yw
[01:51] <cyk> however, the option to is grayed out when i make a new one
[01:51] <cyphase> can someone point me toward a desktop set up that's fully supported by ubuntu?
[01:51] <aaron_> I didn't know that there was any.
[01:51] <ucordes> how can i install a working driver for mobility x700 in recovery mode?
[01:51] <HotDrive> johnnybong: how do I "tell ubuntu"?
[01:52] <NoUse> DShepherd he's trying to copy DVDs, not exactly rip them
[01:52] <samu> Does it matter for the upgrade manager if your system was originally installed as hoary and then apt-get dist-upgraded to breezy?
[01:52] <NoUse> samu no it shouldnt
[01:53] <aaron_> so I just compile all of the files in the src folder?
[01:53] <orbin> ucordes: you can use vesa ifd you just want a desktop ... you need fglrx if you want accel.
[01:53] <d> test
[01:53] <d> hmm
[01:53] <ucordes> well orbin i would like to check out the 3d GUI
[01:53] <ucordes> xgi or so
[01:53] <Mixx> I'm running multi-monitor - when I install for the first time, I get one screen with red and green vertical lines, and the other looks like error message window compressed to 5 pixels high.  any suggestions?
[01:53] <ucordes> so it would be nice to have a driver with opengl acc
[01:53] <orbin> ucordes: is this first boot of dapper?
[01:53] <samu> NoUse, ok, but when I run gksudo update-manager -d I get no messages about dapper being available.
[01:54] <ucordes> nope
[01:54] <orbin> ubotu: tell ucordes about ati
[01:54] <livevil> hi
[01:54] <NoUse> !tell aaron_ about compile
[01:54] <johnnybong> hotdrive - ok, the various different TV cards using the SAA7134 chipset are identified by a card number. /var/log/messages should show a list of numbers, but if all else fails, i think you can use card 1 (philips reference design)
[01:54] <d> i guess having a nick of 'd' is not very good
[01:54] <d> :)
[01:54] <NoUse> samu there are other ways of doing that
[01:54] <livevil> yipe?
[01:54] <ucordes> i destroyed everything before by installing the pack "fglrx_Control"
[01:54] <NoUse> !tell samu about upgrade
[01:54] <cyphase> can someone please give me a video card/monitor combo that works at all resolutions it's supposed to in ubuntu?
[01:54] <jadoob> Is the Penguin Liberation Front breezy repository safe to use with Dapper?
[01:54] <NoUse> jadoob no
[01:54] <yipe> hey
[01:54] <JonathanKent> excuseme, for what this command gksudo "update-manager ?
[01:54] <dwango> after upgrading from breezy, I accidently skipped the step where it wanted me to remove unsupported software
[01:54] <dwango> is there a way I can invoke that manually?
[01:54] <orbin> cyphase: what's wrong?
[01:55] <samu> Oh I feel dumb now. I forgot the quotes.
[01:55] <yipe> livevil do you have some other software installer running? Synaptic, apt, anything?
[01:55] <cyphase> orbin, i've never been able to run ubuntu at higher then 1280x1024
[01:55] <livevil> HAve seen before my error message? no, Ihaven't
[01:55] <xfcefreak> JonathanKent: gksudo "update-manager -d" is the command to upgrade you to dapper from breezy
[01:55] <cyphase> orbin, maybe i'm just having bad luck
[01:55] <johnnybong> hotdrive: then, once you've got the card number, edit /etc/modules and add "saa7134 card=x" to the end. you should then unload and reload the saa7134 module (sudo rmmod saa7134 then sudo modprobe saa7134)
[01:55] <orbin> cyphase: how much xorg tweaking have you done?
[01:55] <HotDrive> brb
[01:55] <jadoob> NoUse: So currently there's no sources for "litigous" software?
[01:55] <yipe> well then I'm afraid that this problem is above my head:( I don't know what to do, I've only been on Linux for a couple months at the most
[01:55] <orbin> cyphase: usually the casue is the monitor rates are wrong in xorg.conf
[01:55] <ucordes> !tell ucordes about ati
[01:56] <blanky> !ati
[01:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[01:56] <cyphase> orbin, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:56] <yipe> and I don't know italian
[01:56] <JonathanKent> xfefreak if i am put thats command in terminal i have dapper the software , he dont nothing to install to the pag?? the .iso
[01:56] <livevil> I haven't synaptic active
[01:56] <ucordes> -_-
[01:56] <yipe> is it open at all?
[01:56] <jsestri2> anyone here know anything at all about compiling drivers?
[01:56] <cyphase> orbin, that's pretty much it. minor tweaking of the file
[01:56] <orbin> cyphase: pastebin.com the file
[01:56] <yipe> close it, close everything except xchat if you can
[01:56] <JonathanKent> xfcefreak  if i am put thats command in terminal i have dapper the software , he dont nothing to install to the pag?? the .iso
[01:56] <r0bby> "D
[01:56] <livevil> it's closed
[01:56] <yipe> nothing running but this window
[01:57] <yipe> okay
[01:57] <r0bby> my x works now
[01:57] <r0bby> =)
[01:57] <xfcefreak> JonathanKent: oif your on dapper it wont do anything right now
[01:57] <yipe> was it open?
[01:57] <JonathanKent> i am brezzy
[01:57] <JonathanKent> i want dapper but i dont want to download the .iso?
[01:57] <yipe> even just sitting there open, even if you're not using it, it will stop anything else from installing
[01:57] <JonathanKent> he have another form?
[01:57] <yipe> make sure your update manager is closed to
[01:57] <yipe> too*
[01:57] <cyphase> orbin, http://pastebin.com/752475
[01:58] <klormexor> whoa http://biowulf.nih.gov  Linux baby
[01:58] <xfcefreak> JonathanKent: than run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && gksudo "update-manager -d"
[01:58] <orbin> cyphase: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[01:58] <dooglus> I booted from the live cd, mounted my existing dapper partition and now want to shut down - but I can't umount the dapper partition.  how can I find out what is using it?  lsof and fuser don't seem to be helping.
[01:58] <JonnyBoy> delire: did you see my log file?
[01:58] <livevil> It seems to be inactive
[01:58] <dooglus> xfcefreak: update-manager -d doesn't work yet, does it?
[01:58] <xfcefreak> dooglus: its been working
[01:58] <yipe> okay, then try everything again:P
[01:58] <cyphase> orbin, nothing
[01:58] <delire> JonnyBoy: no post it again, i was away from the machine
[01:58] <cyphase> orbin, no output
[01:59] <yipe> if that doesn't work then I don't know what to do
[01:59] <orbin> cyphase: ok, we can't autodetect then...er, is this a mac?
[01:59] <Paradoxx> !wifi
[01:59] <ubotu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[01:59] <ucordes> !ati
[01:59] <ubotu> methinks ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[01:59] <cyphase> orbin, the monitor is an Apple Studio
[02:00] <yipe> so "sudo dpkg -i /home/whereever.deb
[02:00] <yipe> "
[02:00] <orbin> cyphase: what is your preferred res.?
[02:00] <cyphase> orbin, but the computer is standard x86
[02:00] <JonnyBoy> delire: http://pastebin.com/752467
[02:00] <delire> JonnyBoy: cheers
[02:00] <JonnyBoy> delire: There it is!
[02:00] <cyphase> orbin, at least 1600X1200
[02:00] <livevil> good night
[02:00] <luis_> when I type a sudo command, I get '/etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440' what should I do??
[02:00] <delire> JonnyBoy: can you now post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[02:00] <orbin> cyphase: how big's the screen?
[02:00] <r0bby> =)
[02:01] <JonnyBoy> delire: Can you PM when you see something?
[02:01] <spine> telnet here towel.bilnkenlights.nl
[02:01] <spine> telnet here towel.bilnkenlights.nl
[02:01] <spine> telnet here towel.bilnkenlights.nl
[02:01] <xfcefreak> spine: stop that
[02:01] <yipe> totally
[02:01] <drgonzo> hello all
[02:01] <spine> 3 isnt flood
[02:01] <JoseStefan> what's your review of the gnome-bittorrent program? or am i better off with a full fledge tool?
[02:01] <cyphase> orbin, 19"
[02:01] <r0bby> spine, dont fucking do it
[02:01] <r0bby> language
[02:01] <drgonzo> is there a more uptodate repo being maintained somewhere?
[02:01] <r0bby> sorry
[02:02] <delire> JonnyBoy: i need to see the  xorg.conf now..
[02:02] <delire> JonnyBoy: then i'll be able to provide a fix.
[02:02] <drgonzo> according to synaptic 4.5.1 is the latest drupal package on the breezy repo
[02:02] <xfcefreak> spine: thats spamming not flooding
[02:02] <newcomplexlife1> nothing john
[02:02] <luis_> is_> when I type a sudo command, I get '/etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440' what should I do??
[02:02] <xfcefreak> sorry r0bby i saw it after
[02:02] <ephesius> does anyone have experience installing ubuntu to a flash drive?
[02:02] <LadyNikon> not it
[02:02] <JonnyBoy> delire:
[02:02] <r0bby> when does eft repository go live?
[02:02] <JonnyBoy> delire: i am will get that for you now
[02:03] <xfcefreak> r0bby: mid june
[02:03] <newcomplexlife1> i cant run in graphic mode, only like root
[02:03] <delire> JonnyBoy: ok great
[02:03] <JonnyBoy> delire: where is xorg.conf?
[02:03] <xfcefreak> give or take a week
[02:03] <delire> JonnyBoy: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:03] <johnnybong> newcomplexlifel: sorry, i'm stumped on that!
[02:03] <aaron_> nouse:  When I try to do ./configure, it configures the package, but at the end it says it can't find the X includes.  What does this mean?
[02:03] <delire> JonnyBoy: /etc/ is where all Linux's systemwide configuration files are kept
[02:04] <searayman> is there somethign like yahoo wigits for ubuntu?
[02:04] <snoops> JonnyBoy http://www.secguru.com/files/linux_file_structure.jpg :)
[02:04] <ephesius> when i reboot after ubuntu install i get a GRUB Hard Disk Error how can i fix this
[02:04] <xfcefreak> searayman: gdesklets
[02:04] <cyphase> searayman, gdesklets
[02:04] <cyphase> sort of
[02:04] <matsavhalev> congratulations to all the devs on dapper release its great
[02:04] <searayman> cyphase: how do i get it?
[02:04] <newcomplexlife1> ok tnxs john
[02:04] <luis_> when I type a sudo command, I get '/etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440' what should I do??
[02:04] <xfcefreak> searayman: you need to install gdesklets and gdesklets-data ;)
[02:04] <delire> matsavhalev: you enjoying it?
[02:04] <cyphase> searayman, sudo apt-get gdesklets gdesklets-data
[02:04] <aaron_> NoUse are you there?
[02:05] <r0bby> finally my X problem was solved
[02:05] <xfcefreak> cyphase: install
[02:05] <ephesius> luis_: chmod it to 0440
[02:05] <delire> r0bby: hooray ;)
[02:05] <r0bby> I guarentee I have another issue when i switch to eft
[02:05] <cyphase> oops
[02:05] <e398> some one from portugal?:
[02:05] <cyphase> xfcefreak, my bad
[02:05] <xfcefreak> !pt
[02:05] <orbin> cyphase: wehn you ran the xorg reconfig, when you got to the monitor config, which option did you choose?  (there's 3 to choose from iirc, simple, medium or advanced, or something like that)
[02:05] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:05] <matsavhalev> delire: ive been running it for weeks, just last week i moved my family members over - 5 out of six runing dapper now only one windows machine left :-)
[02:05] <jsestri2> where can i get the linux kernel source?
[02:05] <luis_> ephesius, that's the thing, I need sudo permission to do that!! and sudo won't run!!
[02:05] <cyphase> searayman, sudo apt-get install gdesklets gdesklets-data
[02:05] <delire> matsavhalev: haha nice one
[02:05] <JonnyBoy> delire: here is xorg.conf
[02:05] <xfcefreak> r0bby: dapper is bleeding edge atm
[02:05] <cyphase> orbin, medium
[02:05] <JonnyBoy> delire: http://pastebin.com/752488
[02:05] <ubuntu> ...
[02:05] <delire> JonnyBoy: cheers
[02:05] <] GoldenDragon> hmm, how do i choose which Torrent to download for Dapper Drake?
[02:06] <ephesius> luis_: oh true sorry then i dont know...did you make a root password
[02:06] <matsavhalev> jsestri2: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[02:06] <orbin> cyphase: and you chose 1600 as the max res?
[02:06] <luis_> ephesius, no root pass for me..
[02:06] <Flannel> xfcefreak: no, dapper is leading edge.  if it were alpha, it'd be bleeding edge.
[02:06] <cyphase> orbin, i don't think it was an option
[02:06] <cyphase> let me redo it..
[02:06] <xfcefreak> Flannel: for ubuntu its got the latest packages makes it bleeding edge ;) but shhh
[02:06] <nbx909> ] GoldenDragon, desktop is the live cd with a new gui installer while the alternative is like the old installer cd
[02:06] <jsestri2> matsavhalev: why is it behind by 1 rev
[02:06] <r0bby> Flannel, won't be for long
[02:06] <orbin> cyphase: try the option where you can choose the max supported rate
[02:07] <r0bby> dapper is the new stable if i have it right
[02:07] <searayman> cyphase: it says couldnt find package
[02:07] <r0bby> I want unstable
[02:07] <Flannel> xfcefreak: bleeding edge is usually a bad thing, meaning (potentially) buggy as hell.
[02:07] <fabricio> likr me
[02:07] <xfcefreak> etch is about as bleeding edge as you can get i think
[02:07] <cyphase> searayman, you need to enable universe
[02:07] <iwilcox> Does ubuntu ship with no MTA by default?
[02:07] <luis_> how can I enable to root user when sudo won't work??
[02:07] <] GoldenDragon> ahh, thx.
[02:07] <aaron_> Can anyone help me with a question about compiling source?
[02:07] <Warbo> Anyone know why I can't write CDRs? I've tried 2 systems (both Dapper) with 2 sets of discs with no luck :(
[02:07] <searayman> omg
[02:07] <searayman> lol
[02:07] <Flannel> luis_: boot to a rescue kernel at grub.
[02:07] <xfcefreak> luis_: find out why sudo doesnt work
[02:07] <matsavhalev> aaron_: what question, i will try to help but not an expert...
[02:07] <nbx909> hey Travis_
[02:08] <searayman> Cyphase: i just did to get flash working
[02:08] <kevin1> Anyone have any trouble with madwifi wireless... My wifi works, just horribly slow and when i do ifconfig ath0... there are only 4596 RX packets and 470113 Rx eeros
[02:08] <luis_> xfcefreak, the permission is wrong, that's why it won't work..
[02:08] <nbx909> !flash
[02:08] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:08] <xfcefreak> luis_: permissions on what?
[02:08] <luis_> Flannel, how can I do that?
[02:08] <delire> JonnyBoy: can you 'sudo lsmod | grep kbd'?
[02:08] <luis_> xfcefreak, on /etc/sudoers
[02:08] <r0bby> I lost over 130 days of uptime
[02:08] <xanadia> wow the people in 'ere
[02:08] <r0bby> =(
[02:08] <nbx909> lol
[02:08] <zelux> hello for all
[02:08] <r0bby> before
[02:08] <xanadia> hello
[02:08] <xfcefreak> luis_: reboot and on grub choose the recovery mode
[02:08] <nbx909> hello for some
[02:08] <nbx909> lol
[02:08] <zelux> i am brazilian
[02:09] <aaron_> matsavhalev, in the install file of the download I just downloaded, it told me type configure on the command line, and when I did that it said that it couldn't find the X includes
[02:09] <Nothus> As someone who knows his way around Linux pretty well, should I be able to just update my apt repositry settings, and apt-get dist upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06?
[02:09] <joel> hi
[02:09] <delire> JonnyBoy: actually make that 'sudo lsmod | grep psmouse'
[02:09] <nbx909> !tell zelux about pr
[02:09] <r0bby> yes\
[02:09] <Flannel> luis_: reboot the computer, at the grub menu (very first thing, after the BIOS stuff, before the ubuntu stuff, it'll say "press [whatever]  for more options") select the recovery mode
[02:09] <nbx909> !tell zelux about pt
[02:09] <luis_> xfcefreak, ok I'll be doing it
[02:09] <nbx909> lol
[02:09] <mdk2311> hopefully you WON'T win the World Cup
[02:09] <joel> hi
[02:09] <JonnyBoy> delire: okay
[02:09] <r0bby> vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:09] <joel> hi
[02:09] <luis_> Flannel, ok thank you, I'll do it now
[02:09] <joel> hi
[02:09] <r0bby> %s/old/new
[02:09] <kevin1> Anyone have any trouble with madwifi wireless... My wifi works, just horribly slow and when i do ifconfig ath0... there are only 4596 RX packets and 470113 Rx eeros
[02:09] <zelux> i know nbx909
[02:09] <nbx909> okay
[02:09] <joel> hi
[02:09] <joel> hi
[02:09] <joel> hi
[02:09] <r0bby> %s/breezy/dapper/
[02:09] <JonnyBoy> delire: "psmouse                26116  0"
[02:09] <joel> hi
[02:09] <r0bby> that should do wit
[02:09] <r0bby> =)
[02:09] <nbx909> !ops
[02:09] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[02:09] <xfcefreak> joel: stop
[02:09] <joel> hi
[02:09] <zelux> good nigth
[02:09] <joel> hi
[02:09] <delire> JonnyBoy: cool. is the keyboard a USB keyboard?
[02:09] <Nothus> r0bby: That's to me? Cool..
[02:09] <cyphase> orbin, it's asking what video modes to use. before, when i'd choose 1600x1200, it would crash when i restarted it.. what should i do?
[02:09] <joel> hi
[02:10] <JonnyBoy> delire: can we have a PM?
[02:10] <joel> hi
[02:10] <joel> hi
[02:10] <r0bby> switch breezy to dapper
[02:10] <Double_D> could someone /kill joel?  that's really annoying.
[02:10] <joel> hi
[02:10] <delire> JonnyBoy: yeah sure. pm me
[02:10] <JonnyBoy> delire: yea, the keyboard is USB
[02:10] <r0bby> then dist-upgrade
[02:10] <ucordes> when i type sudo apt-get install fglrx in recovery nothing happens. what's wrong?`
[02:10] <Warbo> Can anybody help me with my CD writing troubles? Don't make me boot up a windoze system
[02:10] <orbin> cyphase: have you made a backup?
[02:10] <AngryElf> guys, how do i make my optical-out audio work?
[02:10] <cyphase> orbin, yes
[02:10] <johnnybong> Warbo: do both systems use the same model of CD writer?
[02:10] <nbx909> !tell ucordes about fglrx
[02:10] <Flannel> ucordes: wrong package name, probably.
[02:11] <jain> warbo: what is the problem?
[02:11] <xfcefreak> Double_D: dont do that please unless an op asks what the person is doing its not really nice to give op instructions
[02:11] <orbin> cyphase: then try it.....i seem to recall the best option to choose was the one that just let you set a max supported res. though
[02:11] <Warbo> johnnybong: Nope
[02:11] <Double_D> xfcefreak: understood.  apologies.
[02:11] <xfcefreak> all good just wanted to make you aware of it
[02:11] <matsavhalev> aaron_:  try   ./configure -x-includes /usr/includes -x-libraries /usr/lib --prefix=/usr   otherwise you might need some xorg development libraries installed
[02:11] <Warbo> jain: I can't write CDs. One system just crashes t#any CD writing program and the other spits out corrupt discs (not fixated)
[02:11] <ucordes> !tell me about fglrx doesnt work
[02:12] <jsestri2> why dosent the make file in the kernel source work?
[02:12] <xanadia> Anybody can indicate me a good isdn usb modem compatible with Ubuntu ?
[02:12] <ucordes> @nbx
[02:12] <hyperactivecrond> ucordes: /msg ubotu fglrx
[02:12] <jain> warbo: can you read CDS
[02:12] <Warbo> jsestri2: You have configured it, right?
[02:12] <cyphase> orbin, now, do i choose simple, medium, or advanced?
[02:12] <johnnybong> Warbo: you using Nautilus CD burner?
[02:12] <Nothus> r0bby: Well thanks much, and if this breaks my box... Well, I didn't want to do any work today anyway.. :-)
[02:12] <jsestri2> Warbo: i thought i did
[02:12] <nbx909> ucordes, do apt-cache search fglrx
[02:12] <Warbo> jain: I can thanks to my DVD drives, but one system the CDRW drive is completely gone
[02:12] <orbin> cyphase: iirc, medium
[02:12] <ucordes> cool thx
[02:13] <ucordes> ill try that
[02:13] <r0bby> Nothus, it shouldn't
[02:13] <Warbo> jsestri2: Does it actually make the kernel (takes ages, you would notice) but you don't know what to do next?
[02:13] <r0bby> I've been running dapper for over a year now
[02:13] <r0bby> pretty stable
[02:13] <nbx909> ucordes, what is the package name so i can change the bot's message
[02:13] <delire> JonnyBoy: can you 'lsmod | grep usbkbd' for me?
[02:13] <r0bby> X just borked for a few months
[02:13] <matsavhalev> aaron_: try   sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev  and then try ./configure again that might do the trick (instead of the other command line i just sent you)
[02:13] <rever> Hi I installed the latest Dapper about a week ago. I just installed Mythtv 0.18. Does the Mythtv in the repos come compiled with XvMC already or will I need to compile and install 0.19 with XvMC myself?
[02:13] <jsestri2> Warbo: no i'm trying to 'make modules' and its missing a rule for some random module
[02:13] <cyphase> orbin, i selected 1600x1200 @ 60Hz
[02:13] <aaron_> ok
[02:14] <orbin> cyphase: ok, sounds good
[02:14] <xanadia> Anybody can indicate me a the compatibility page for Ubuntu? please
[02:14] <cyphase> an 24-bit..
[02:14] <kevin1> Anyone successful using madwifi driver in dapper?  I am expierencing huge number of receiving errors
[02:14] <cyphase> and*
[02:14] <Warbo> jsestri2: Ah, I had to get around that a while ago by basically disabling EVERYTHING I knew I didn't need (save the config in case you need it later, it takes a while to do again!)
[02:14] <cyphase> done
[02:14] <xfcefreak> kevin1: did you read the wiki?
[02:14] <Mixx> nbx909 did you finally get credit for last night?
[02:14] <viator> broadcom 4318 wont work with bcm43xx drivers wth
[02:14] <nbx909> Mixx, yes i did :P
[02:14] <kevin1> xfcefreak what wiki
[02:14] <xanadia> bsh
[02:14] <xfcefreak> ubotu tell kevin1 -about madwifi
[02:14] <Mixx> good
[02:14] <orbin> xanadia: as in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSuppot?r
[02:14] <jsestri2> Warbo: hah, what a pain
[02:15] <xfcefreak> kevin1: the one in your pm
[02:15] <viator> looks like ill have to try ndiswrapper :(
[02:15] <orbin> cyphase: good luck
[02:15] <Nothus> r0bby: *grins* There's a "shouldn't" in there :-) I've managed to break most distros.. And then I'm one of these stubborn people who turns off gnome and uses FVWM, so it's going to hate me for that.. And I have an xterminal doing XDMCP to this desktop as well, I imagine it will blow that away..
[02:15] <jsestri2> Warbo: actually looks like i got it going...have you by chance installed lirc?
[02:15] <xfcefreak> i lied :(
[02:15] <aaron_> matsavhalev it just said that it can't find package xserver-xorg-dev
[02:15] <xfcefreak> !wifi
[02:15] <ubotu> somebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:15] <cyphase> brb
[02:15] <Warbo> jsestri2: I don't even use a custom kernel anymore (I forget why I did it now)
[02:15] <bur[n] er> anyone know if dapper-updates are open now?
[02:15] <matsavhalev> aaron_: you might have to enable the universe repository in synaptic
[02:15] <xfcefreak> grrrrr
[02:15] <jain> warbo: what is the output of dmesg|grep CD
[02:15] <crimsun> bur[n] er: they were open yesterday :-)
[02:15] <aaron_> I think I already did, but I'll check again.
[02:15] <jsestri2> Warbo: i just need it compiled to compile a special module against it
[02:15] <bur[n] er> crimsun: neato
[02:15] <Walter> hola alguien que hable espaol
[02:15] <wims> are there any 'lazy' way of upgrading my kernel ?
[02:15] <Warbo> jsestri2: No (the only reference I have ever seen to it is mplayer saying that I don't have it)
[02:15] <xfcefreak> kevin1: hold on ill get it
[02:16] <xfcefreak> !es
[02:16] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:16] <MisterN> n8
[02:16] <nbx909> !tell Walter about es
[02:16] <jsestri2> Warbo: alright thanks for the help though
[02:16] <majd> Hey, I'd like to be able to access my localhost remotely
[02:16] <rever> What package do I need to install to get lXxf86vm
[02:16] <majd> is this the wrong place and time to ask that question?
[02:16] <Walter> ok muchas gracias
[02:16] <zelux> what is XGL?
[02:16] <nbx909> !tell majd about ssh
[02:16] <luis_> when I try to run firestarter, it says "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display".. what's wrong?? it was installed from Add/Remove...
[02:16] <hyperactivecrond> !tell zelux about xgl
[02:17] <zelux> ?
[02:17] <zelux> is game?
[02:17] <newcomplexlife1> :(
[02:17] <r0bby> I started with Hoary, switched to Breezy, then to Dapper =)
[02:17] <Flannel> zelux: no, it's a graphics library.
[02:17] <orbin> rever: what is that?
[02:17] <zelux> hum....
[02:17] <r0bby> only release i never used was warty
[02:17] <zelux> thanks
[02:17] <newcomplexlife1> who can help me?
[02:17] <xfcefreak> kevin1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManagerMadwifi?highlight=%28madwifi%29
[02:17] <rever> orbin: it is a libray need to compile mythtv
[02:17] <Warbo> jain: dmesg | grep gives http://pastebin.com/752503
[02:18] <zelux> what the proposity?
[02:18] <nbx909> newcomplexlife1, what is your problem?
[02:18] <zelux> is XGL?
[02:18] <newcomplexlife1> well
[02:18] <orbin> rever: try searching http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:18] <hyperactivecrond> zelux: cool looking window manager
[02:18] <hyperactivecrond> zelux: WM eye candy
[02:18] <rever> orbin: thanks
[02:18] <kevin1> xfcefreak thanks!
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> luis_: How were you trying to run it?
[02:18] <HotDrive> back
[02:18] <newcomplexlife1> dapper cant run in graphic mode in normal user
[02:18] <zelux> ok......thanks hyperactiv
[02:18] <PreZLaptop> I wish I could figure out why when I installed grub when I had this as a linux box, vmware had no problem with it, but on ubuntu it has all shades of problems :(
[02:18] <HotDrive> johnnybong, still there?
[02:18] <ucordes> how can i reconfigure xorg?
[02:18] <jain> warbo: dmesg|grep CD
[02:18] <newcomplexlife1> but with root i dont have problems
[02:18] <xfcefreak> kevin1: yw ;)
[02:19] <aaron_> matsavhalev, yeah it says I have all of the repositories installed
[02:19] <johnnybong> hotdrive: yes.. how you getting on?
[02:19] <luis_> tonyyarusso, through the terminal, since throught the 'internet' menu nothing happens when I click it
[02:19] <bimberi> ubotu tell newcomplexlife1 about xhangs
[02:19] <Warbo> jain: That's what I meant (that is what the output is for)
[02:19] <Flannel> PreZLaptop: ubuntu is linux, by the way.
[02:19] <RadiantFire> does anyone know how to turn off the annoying as hell beep in anjuta after a build?
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> ucordes: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:19] <zelux> you used KDE?
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> luis_: What command?
[02:19] <newcomplexlife1> any ideas?
[02:19] <HotDrive> driver is included in 2.6.* kernels
[02:19] <jain> warbo: its weird
[02:19] <luis_> tonyyarusso, simply 'firestarter'
[02:19] <matsavhalev> aaron_ : hold on a sec i will try and find out
[02:19] <zelux> who used KDE?
[02:19] <PreZLaptop> Flannel, heh, mis-spoke - when I had it as a gentoo box (instead of ubuntu) grub would work under vmware
[02:19] <PreZLaptop> now it won't :(
[02:19] <kevin1> xfcefreak im not using wpa, I am using wep... but ill give the directions a try anyways
[02:19] <jain> warbo: you should get something like
[02:20] <xfcefreak> zelux: alot of people in #kubuntu do ;) some here now as many
[02:20] <nbx909> !tell newcomplexlife1 about reconfigurex
[02:20] <jain> hdc: SONY CD-RW/DVD-ROM CRX830E, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[02:20] <jain> [4294675.549000]  hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)
[02:20] <jain> [4294675.549000]  Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[02:20] <xfcefreak> s/now/not
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> luis_: I don't remember for sure, but I think it might need to be run as root.  Try 'gksudo firestarter'.
[02:20] <HotDrive> I think I need to tell ubuntu that my tv card is the /dev/video1 so that the programs can find it
[02:20] <xfcefreak> jain: dont paste
[02:20] <Warbo> jain: The system I am on now seems the best hope, but I got an error (brand new CDR discs, by the way) and k3b said that TAO mode may help, but it didn't
[02:20] <HellDragon> anyone know the name of a staffer ?
[02:20] <luis_> tonyyarusso, tried already, returns the same error
[02:20] <xfcefreak> staffer of what?
[02:20] <HellDragon> i know its not the channel to ask that but on #freenode it takes 4 years to get a voice to talk
[02:20] <hyperactivecrond> HellDragon: freenode?
[02:20] <HellDragon> staffer of freende
[02:20] <zelux> ok xfcefreak
[02:20] <johnnybong> hotdrive: did you see my message about card numbers?
[02:20] <rever> orbin: Thanks that work
[02:20] <HellDragon> i need to ask for my cloak... i donate 256$ and still no cloak
[02:20] <hyperactivecrond> Seveas is one
[02:20] <HellDragon> donated*
[02:20] <xfcefreak> ubotu tell HellDragon about freenode
[02:20] <newcomplexlife1> i did it
[02:21] <rever> orbin: Booked marked that page for futur use
[02:21] <HotDrive> sorry, maybe not
[02:21] <HellDragon> no staffer name in faq
[02:21] <newcomplexlife1> but nothing
[02:21] <xfcefreak> HellDragon: on that site it tells you how to check for a staff memeber
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> luis_: This is within Gnome right, not a tty?
[02:21] <HellDragon> ok ty xfcefreak
[02:21] <luis_> tonyyarusso, what's a tty? well yes, it's gnome
[02:21] <Cornellius> Can Ubuntu and Kunbuntu co-habit on the same HD without trouble ?
[02:21] <HellDragon> you donate 256$ and no support !!!!!!!!!!!1111
[02:21] <nbx909> Cornellius, yes
[02:21] <xfcefreak> Cornellius: yes
[02:21] <hyperactivecrond> Cornellius: on seperate partitions
[02:21] <matsavhalev> Cornellius, yes but why not install them together in the same install?
[02:21] <bimberi> newcomplexlife1: look for errors in file in the /var/log directory
[02:21] <xfcefreak> with xubuntu too ;)
[02:22] <newcomplexlife1> ok
[02:22] <nbx909> Cornellius, you have them on the same install even
[02:22] <HellDragon> i see... /stats p :)
[02:22] <Warbo> Cornellius: You may want to install GRUB in the MBR for one and to a partition for the other, then chainload it
[02:22] <lz> im having problems booting from the cd, no menu comes up, somebody want to help me?
[02:22] <ro> Can anybody here run Xnest with a depth of 8?
[02:22] <hyperactivecrond> lz: check your bios settin
[02:22] <cyphase> orbin, still 1280x1024
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> luis_: cli terminal that you can get to with Ctrl-Alt-F(number 1-6) (7 will get you back).  Okay, hmm...  (pondering..)
[02:22] <nbx909> Cornellius, just install ubuntu then do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:22] <newcomplexlife1> what archive?
[02:22] <johnnybong> hotdrive: ok, no worries. basically, the driver gives all supported cards a number; then, when you load the driver, you need to tell it which card number you use. i'll explain next
[02:22] <newcomplexlife1> xorg.log?
[02:22] <ucordes> oooh how can i configure my resolution and stuff in recovery mode. dpkg-reconfigure xorg-servers wont work
[02:22] <ucordes> ?
[02:22] <hyperactivecrond> lz: make sure you didn't burn just the ISO file by itself (are you in windows?)
[02:22] <Cornellius> I can't just use apt and download kubuntu ?
[02:22] <xfcefreak> Cornellius: yes
[02:22] <hyperactivecrond> ucordes: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:23] <Cornellius> Ok
[02:23] <nbx909> Cornellius, yes whati just said
[02:23] <lz> yeah, how to?
[02:23] <xfcefreak> Cornellius: you cant install both during install
[02:23] <Warbo> Cornellius: Yes you can. Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same system, just the install discs contain different parts
[02:23] <hyperactivecrond> Cornellius: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> ucordes: It's xserver-xorg
[02:23] <ucordes> d'oh
[02:23] <orbin> cyphase: i'm still betting your horzsync & vertrefresh rates are getting configged wrong... i can't find anything in google and your monitor isn't listed here: http://www.apple.com/support/manuals/display/  is this some rare model or something? :-/
[02:23] <lz> i just used nero
[02:23] <Cornellius> I know :)
[02:23] <Cornellius> I just use both often
[02:23] <nbx909> Cornellius, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:23] <hyperactivecrond> lz: did you burn an image or a file
[02:23] <semq> hi i've a problem at starttup my ubuntu system hangs just after " running local boot scripts"
[02:23] <newcomplexlife1> Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
[02:23] <johnnybong> hotdrive: first thing you need to do is find which card number to use. i *think* all the card numbers should be listed in /var/log/messages.
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> luis_: You might try reconfigure or reinstalling firestarter?
[02:23] <cyphase> orbin, i would think it's pretty common..
[02:23] <orbin> cyphase: and probably a stupid question: are you even sure it supports 1600?
[02:23] <Warbo> Cornellius: But to install 2 Ubuntu systems you should do the bootloader thing (if you want Fedora as well, for example)
[02:24] <lz> i just pointed nero to the iso and let it do the default
[02:24] <luis_> tonyyarusso, well.. I tried already :P
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> luis_: Of course you did.  Dang.
[02:24] <orbin> cyphase: did you get a manual or something with it?
[02:24] <hyperactivecrond> lz: double click your cd drive w/ the cd in
[02:24] <cyphase> orbin, no, i got it used
[02:24] <lz> yeah i get the autorun
[02:24] <cyphase> hmm
[02:24] <klormexor> luis_: what happens with firestarter?
[02:24] <orbin> cyphase: well what about the support question?
[02:24] <xfcefreak> Warbo: why burn 2 isos when all you have to do is install kubuntu-desktop?
[02:24] <cyphase> orbin, 1 sec
[02:24] <hyperactivecrond> lz: then reboot, go into your bios and change the boot order to boot from a cdrom drive b4 the hard drive
[02:24] <johnnybong> hotdrive: if not, you can use card number 1, which is the philips reference design and it should work. what you need to do, is edit /etc/modules and add "saa7134 card=x" where x is your card number
[02:24] <luis_> klormexor, it says "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display"
[02:24] <semq> howcan i repair my ubuntu install?
[02:24] <lz> yeah i already checked that
[02:24] <klormexor> oh
[02:25] <lz> thats why im here :P
[02:25] <xfcefreak> luis_: uses gksudo does that but should open
[02:25] <newcomplexlife1> i dont know what i look
[02:25] <klormexor> running gnome?
[02:25] <orbin> cyphase: b/c it's tripped people up before....some monitors just can't go that high.
[02:25] <Warbo> xfcefreak: I was commenting on running 2 Linux installs from 1 HD without screwing up the GRUB menu.lst being overwritten
[02:25] <tonyyarusso> semq: That depends what's wrong with it.
[02:25] <lz> checked the sum and everything
[02:25] <hyperactivecrond> Warbo: then don't install GRUB again to the MBR
[02:25] <klormexor> i just installed mine and opened from the menu bar
[02:25] <hyperactivecrond> just add it by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:25] <semq> tony my system hangs b4 i can get in startup menu
[02:25] <HotDrive> I'm trying to find the card number in /var/log/messages
[02:25] <luis_> xfcefreak, even with gksudo I get the same message
[02:25] <hyperactivecrond> after installaing
[02:25] <newcomplexlife1> i going to update
[02:25] <klormexor> didnt have any errors thats strange not sure
[02:25] <Nihni> Just upgraded breezy -> dapper, now Xorg can't find the "kbd" or "mouse" drivers, and refuses to start. Any ideas?
[02:25] <johnnybong> hotdrive: then unload and reload the saa7134 driver (sudo rmmod saa7134, then sudo modprobe saa7134) - you might need to reboot.
[02:25] <lz> are there any pre-reqs?
[02:25] <Madpilot> Anyone else had trouble doing a dist-upgrade from Breezy w/ the k7 kernel? My install has been well and truely fubar'd - no network, no sound, no auto-mounting of CDs...
[02:25] <Warbo> hyperactivecrond: Exactly what I said, install the second to a partition and chainload it
[02:25] <xfcefreak> luis_: it should say that but should still open the file or app
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> semq: You mean before the login screen?
[02:26] <roostishaw> could some one help me with network manager?
[02:26] <Cornellius> Warbo: What do I have to do exacly. After I've download the Kubuntu deb from Apt ?
[02:26] <semq> yes
[02:26] <hyperactivecrond> Warbo: why chainload?
[02:26] <xfcefreak> Madpilot: i havent seen anything that bad yet
[02:26] <luis_> xfcefreak, well but it won't open!
[02:26] <poningru> Madpilot: hmm weird, it went fine for me
[02:26] <roostishaw> join flood so i can post the error
[02:26] <Warbo> Cornellius: At the login screen you can change session to KDE or GNOME
[02:26] <xfcefreak> luis_: what command are you running?
[02:26] <hyperactivecrond> Warbo: just edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst to your liking for the linux partition.
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> semq: Is there any potentially useful output that you get?
[02:26] <luis_> xfcefreak, 'firestarter', 'sudo firestarter', 'gksudo firestarter'...
[02:26] <HotDrive> how do I find the card number in /var/log/messages
[02:26] <klormexor> luis i also opened with root privileges and it came up quickl, got one error initially, due to no permissions
[02:26] <lz> ive got the same problem on two computers, it reads from the cd, the cursor blinks for a while, then it goes into windows without starting the cd
[02:26] <Madpilot> poningru: you run k7?
[02:26] <xfcefreak> luis_: gksudo "firestarter"
[02:27] <Warbo> hyperactivecrond: so you can run 2 GRUBs and they can each update their own menu.lsts when you install new kernels
[02:27] <hyperactivecrond> Warbo: that works
[02:27] <IcE-bOy> hi
[02:27] <Cornellius> Warbo: Yes, but I mean the chainload. Never used that command before
[02:27] <luis_> xfcefreak, same message
[02:27] <gambit> why is my  /etc/apt/sources.list blank?
[02:27] <IcE-bOy> are there any problem in dapper and speedstep ?
[02:27] <xfcefreak> luis_: it doesnt open?
[02:27] <hyperactivecrond> luis_: sudo firestarter?
[02:27] <xfcefreak> luis_: are you pon gnome?
[02:27] <semq> strange codes ofter the message: 'running local boot scripts /etc/rcsomething
[02:27] <hyperactivecrond> minus the ? run that
[02:27] <Bilford> can someone please tell me what Virtual Memory is
[02:27] <xfcefreak> s/pon/on
[02:27] <IcE-bOy> i don't see modules in 2.6.15-23-686 for speedstep
[02:27] <Madpilot> gambit: it certainly shouldn't be...
[02:27] <luis_> xfcefreak, no it won't open.. and yes, it's GNOME
[02:27] <HotDrive> I have a "card=0-autodetected" message
[02:27] <semq> ive gnome, kde and xfce
[02:27] <IcE-bOy> and i can't change my centrino processor speed
[02:27] <xfcefreak> luis_: killall gnome-panel
[02:27] <johnnybong> hotdrive: open a terminal and try "less /var/log/messages | grep saa7134" (the | character is above the \ character on a UK keyboard)
[02:27] <hyperactivecrond> Bilford: what ur comp uses when you dont have any more ram left.
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> IcE-bOy: There was on my machine at one time a while back (for a few hours) but it seems fine for me now.
[02:27] <luis_> hyperactivecrond, no luck with that either...
[02:27] <Warbo> Cornellius: Don't pay attention to that. It is part of GRUB (lets it load other systems, like Windows or another GRUB) but you only have 1 Linux system
[02:28] <hyperactivecrond> aka a swap file
[02:28] <hyperactivecrond> luis_: what does it say?
[02:28] <klormexor> luis_: I get about 20 error messages on Terminal running sudo firestarter, but it opens
[02:28] <Bilford> hyperactivecrond, ty
[02:28] <xfcefreak> luis_: once gnome-panel comes back it should be in menu
[02:28] <deus_> msg ubotu upt1me
[02:28] <deus_> msg ubotu up
[02:28] <hyperactivecrond> np Bilford
[02:28] <reconciliation> if I have a fully updated 6.06 RC is that the same as todays official release
[02:28] <aaron> alright, anyone know what I have to do when I try to compile source for k9copy I run ./configure, then it says that it can't find X includes, can anyone help me out?
[02:28] <Hemorrhage> Where is the ubuntu (distributor-logo) icon logo located that is on the panel next to "applications"?  I'm using a custom theme and not sure which folder the logo is in as a slocate turns up up like 9 results
[02:28] <Nihni> Bilford: when the computer runs out of main memory, it copies the unused parts to the hard drive to free up main memory space, then reads them back if needed
[02:28] <lz> ive got the same problem on two computers, it reads from the cd, the cursor blinks for a while, then it goes into windows without starting the cd
[02:28] <gambit> Madpilot: i reinstalled and its still blank
[02:28] <xfcefreak> redguy: yes
[02:28] <luis_> xfcefreak, it was always in the menu, but I click it and nothing happens
[02:28] <hyperactivecrond> Nihni: i got it
[02:28] <xfcefreak> reconciliation: yes
[02:28] <ProN00b> can i change the computername ?
[02:28] <Madpilot> gambit: odd.
[02:28] <luis_> hyperactivecrond, it says "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display"
[02:28] <Cornellius> Warbo: Okies :) Yep, HD 1= Ubuntu + Kubuntu, HD 2= Windows XP
[02:28] <Madpilot> ubotu: tell gambit about repos
[02:28] <xfcefreak> luis_: sounds like a permissions issue
[02:29] <klormexor> luis_: remove firestarter and install it again?
[02:29] <hyperactivecrond> luis_: export DISPLAY=:0, sudo firestarter
[02:29] <klormexor> :P
[02:29] <Madpilot> gambit: check the bot's PM, it's got a good sources.list URL on it
[02:29] <luis_> klormexor, tried already
[02:29] <Warbo> Hemorrhage: I think the logo is in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/distributor-logo.png or something
[02:29] <hyperactivecrond> sorry not , ;
[02:29] <tonyyarusso> ProN00b: Yep.  Change it in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[02:29] <xfcefreak> luis_: you didnt happen to enable su did you?
[02:29] <hyperactivecrond> type all of that at one line
[02:29] <Bilford> Nihni, ok ty
[02:29] <lz> any help?
[02:29] <Hemorrhage> Warbo, ok thanks, just wasn't sure of the right one
[02:29] <hyperactivecrond> export DISPAY=:0 ; sudo firestarter
[02:29] <roostishaw> anyone, why does network manager keep saying
[02:29] <roostishaw> WARNING **: Error saving passphrase in keyring.  Ret=2
[02:29] <ProN00b> tonyyarusso, are those the only places ?
[02:29] <hyperactivecrond> run that
[02:29] <roostishaw> ?
[02:29] <luis_> xfcefreak, no I didn't
[02:29] <xfcefreak> luis_: also try sudo -s
[02:29] <ro> How can I run an app in 8bit depth if xdpyinfo onlyy gives me support for 24 or 32 planes?
[02:29] <xfcefreak> luis_: let me know if it gives you a #
[02:29] <Warbo> Cornellius: If you have windows as well then you can look in /boot/grub/menu.lst to see what chainloading is (look at the bit which boots windows)
[02:29] <cyphase> orbin, i feel like an idiot
[02:30] <hyperactivecrond> luis_: export DISPLAY=:0 ; firestarter
[02:30] <HotDrive> johnnybong, I did that... long message...
[02:30] <hyperactivecrond> all on one line w/ the ;
[02:30] <tonyyarusso> ProN00b: Should be, yep.  Might not fully take effect without a reboot - not sure.
[02:30] <ucordes> Configuring xserver-xorg: after selecting 1280x800 as available res setting, I can't select it in "..select monitor's best video mode." How's that?
[02:30] <orbin> cyphase: doesn't support it?
[02:30] <semq> [xxxx.xxxx]  something <IP> something
[02:30] <Hexidigital_> trying to access a Fat32 partition on my dual-boot system... getting "inaccessible" as status in System -> Admin -> Disks... any ideas?
[02:30] <cyphase> orbin, nope
[02:30] <cyphase> orbin,http://support.apple.com/specs/displays/Apple_Cinema_Display_20_inch.html
[02:30] <orbin> cyphase: :)  i should have asked that first really
[02:30] <klormexor> ucordes: are you running ATI?
[02:30] <Warbo> Hemorrhage: It was that in Breezy I think, but I've lost all of my custom icons I made so I haven't bothered changing it in Dapper yet
[02:30] <tonyyarusso> Hexidigital_: That means it's not mounted.
[02:30] <luis_> xfcefreak, ahh not it opened :D
[02:30] <cyphase> orbin, i just assumed it did because it was so big :P
[02:30] <cyphase> mine is m7649
[02:30] <HotDrive> I have a "UNKNOWN/GENERIC [card=0,autodetected] " <- is that it?
[02:31] <johnnybong> hotdrive: did it say anything about card numbers? (sorry, i'm not at the machine with tv card in it at the mo)
[02:31] <Hexidigital_> tonyyarusso:: i feel like an idiot now, thanks :)
[02:31] <ucordes> klormexor: yes
[02:31] <deus_> say, shouldnt there be a large update for dapper?
[02:31] <deus_> i mean
[02:31] <orbin> cyphase: :)  ah well.  at least you know why now. :)
[02:31] <deus_> i ran upgrade
[02:31] <luis_> xfcefreak, but it showed me bunches of error messages..
[02:31] <Hexidigital_> tonyyarusso:: i missed the obvious
[02:31] <Warbo> Any help for CD writing? I really need this disc written so I can boot a new kernel
[02:31] <ucordes> klormexor: ati mobility radeon x700
[02:31] <deus_> but i didnt get a anything
[02:31] <rackerz> can somebody help, when my friend tries a sudo apt-get update he gets this, Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg
[02:31] <rackerz> Could not connect to localhost:8118 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:31] <Flannel> deus_: what were you running?
[02:31] <roostishaw> anyone, why does network manager keep saying
[02:31] <roostishaw> ?
[02:31] <tonyyarusso> Hexidigital_: Of course ;)
[02:31] <roostishaw> WARNING **: Error saving passphrase in keyring.  Ret=2
[02:31] <cyphase> orbin, thanx for the help anyway
[02:31] <Hexidigital_> hyperactivecrond:: lol
[02:31] <deus_> Flannel: i was running dapper before it was testing
[02:31] <hyperactivecrond> np Hexidigital_
[02:31] <xfcefreak> luis_: yeah most will if you get time paste them opn pastebin and lets see what poped up
[02:31] <lz> ive got the same problem on two computers, it reads the install cd, the cursor blinks for a while, then it goes into windows without starting the cd, any help?
[02:31] <orbin> cyphase: no worries... where is the 19inch on that page though?
[02:31] <Flannel> deus_: hmm? so, its a few weeks old? or have you updated since then?
[02:31] <cyphase> orbin, it's 20inch i guess
[02:31] <luis_> xfcefreak, all of them are regarding files... "Error reading file blablabla No such file or directory"
[02:32] <rackerz> can somebody help, when my friend tries a sudo apt-get update he gets this, Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg
[02:32] <rackerz> Could not connect to localhost:8118 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:32] <deus_> Flannel: i updated often
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> lz: You probably haven't configured the boot order to use the CD drive first.
[02:32] <hyperactivecrond> cyphase: just to get it straight, we ARE talking about monitors, right ^_^?
[02:32] <Flannel> deus_: did you update yesterday?
[02:32] <orbin> cyphase: ah
[02:32] <lz> i already checked that
[02:32] <deus_> Flannel: yes
[02:32] <Warbo> rackerz: Check in the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:32] <lz> it is reading the disk
[02:32] <Flannel> deus_: then you're up to date.
[02:32] <lz> just not running it
[02:32] <deus_> yay
[02:32] <klormexor> ucordes: there is a problem on the 8.18 version i think and u have to dl the 8.25 version, check the ATI site for compatibilit, I have a 1280x800 monitor and was alwasy at 768 and couldnt chose 800. install the ATI driver and it should fix that just follow the complete instructions and run the xorg-xserver command in the end to reconfigure, chose fglrx
[02:32] <deus_> now i can go and solve that locale problem
[02:32] <rackerz> Warbo: I asked him too, it's exactly the same as mine.
[02:32] <HotDrive> johnnybong, I also found this: [4302868.087000]  saa7134[0] /alsa: saa7134[0]  at 0x24000000 irq 11 registered as card -1
[02:32] <klormexor> !ATI
[02:32] <ubotu> ati is probably http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[02:32] <Madpilot> what's the command to manually mount a CD?
[02:32] <cyphase> hyperactivecrond: monitors? what're you talking about?
[02:33] <hyperactivecrond> !tell klormexor about msgthebot
[02:33] <HellDragon> wooh i got my cloak and PDPC donor thing into it
[02:33] <tonyyarusso> lz: What do you mean by reading it though?  Just because it spins it up doesn't mean it intends to boot it.  You've checked the boot order configuration in your bios utility?
[02:33] <Warbo> rackerz: Maybe this will help?
[02:33] <Warbo> !tell rackerz about universe
[02:33] <klormexor> ucordes: Fixed mine, its now 1280x800 and renders beautifully
[02:33] <lz> it goes to black screen for a while reading the cd
[02:33] <Warbo> rackerz: That gives you a sources.list to check
[02:33] <lz> then quits out withou an error and goes to windows
[02:33] <ucordes> nice. with 8.25 from the ati page?
[02:33] <semq> ive prob at startup (b4 login screen): any log file i can edit to diagnoze the problem?
[02:33] <hyperactivecrond> lz: does it work on another machine
[02:33] <lz> nope
[02:33] <klormexor> ucordes: let me give you the link hang on a sec
[02:33] <iwilcox> Does ubuntu ship with no MTA by default?
[02:34] <hyperactivecrond> lz: reburn @ a slower speed
[02:34] <ucordes> thx a lot
[02:34] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: man mount, I would suppose ;)  (Translation - I have no idea, so that's where I'd look.)
[02:34] <klormexor> np
[02:34] <Cerveza> what is the apt-get command to reinstall?
[02:34] <hyperactivecrond> lz: check the md5sum
[02:34] <johnnybong> hotdrive: ok, you don't need to worry about that - it's basically saying that the sound system has picked up the tv card sound and registered it as a second sound card.
[02:34] <hyperactivecrond> Cerveza: reinstall what?
[02:34] <Cerveza> a package
[02:34] <Warbo> Cerveza: sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename
[02:34] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: thanks (I think)... Dapper has f'd up my install really good...
[02:34] <lz> ok then ill try it
[02:34] <tonyyarusso> lz: Have you checked the CD for download/burning errors?
[02:34] <lz> the sum is good though
[02:34] <tonyyarusso> okay
[02:34] <HotDrive> so: card number is 0, right?
[02:34] <ro> All: Anyone here got any experience with Xnest?
[02:34] <lz> and the autorun comes up in windows
[02:34] <piratepenguin> what's the package I need to get mp3 files playing? why isn't it included - is it not a free as in GNU free package, or is it a patents thing?
[02:34] <Warbo> ro: A little
[02:34] <rackerz> Warbo: if the error still occurs, is there anything else you can think of?
[02:34] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Icky.
[02:35] <hyperactivecrond> !tell piratepenguin about mp3
[02:35] <hyperactivecrond> that'll help piratepenguin
[02:35] <Warbo> rackerz: Not really...
[02:35] <distanceisdeath> is dapper worth upgrading or what!?
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> piratepenguin: It's a patents thing.
[02:35] <ro> Warbo: ever tried running Xnest in 8 bit depth?
[02:35] <rackerz> Warbo: Ok thanks :)
[02:35] <hyperactivecrond> distanceisdeath: yep
[02:35] <piratepenguin> hyperactivecrond: thanks
[02:35] <distanceisdeath> can you tell me how?
[02:35] <distanceisdeath> without the discs?
[02:35] <hyperactivecrond> piratepenguin: np. bill's in the mail
[02:35] <johnnybong> hotdrive: as a try, i'd suggest you edit /etc/modules and add "saa7134 card=1" to the end, which will set the card up as philips reference design, which should at least give you a tv picture.
[02:35] <Warbo> rackerz: Nope. I've used it from within chroots and that's about it
[02:35] <klormexor> ucordes: Middle of the page says 1024x768 gettin stuck http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide
[02:35] <Warbo> rackerz: Sorry, wrong person :)
[02:35] <HotDrive> ok, I'll try that
[02:36] <hyperactivecrond> !tell distanceisdeath about upgrade
[02:36] <hyperactivecrond> follow his instructions distanceisdeath
[02:36] <delire> HotDrive: what is the model of card? my hauppage uses the saa7134
[02:36] <distanceisdeath> thanks
[02:36] <Warbo> ro: I've used it to get a display from within a chroot but that's all
[02:36] <ucordes> ok thank you
[02:36] <hyperactivecrond> np distanceisdeath
[02:36] <distanceisdeath> if i upgrade will i lose all ym interformation?
[02:36] <distanceisdeath> my* info*
[02:36] <johnnybong> hotdrive: easiest probably to reboot after the change and then try tvtime - you might need to play with input config to get tuner
[02:36] <klormexor> ucordes: Download the driver here http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.25.18-x86.run
[02:36] <hyperactivecrond> distanceisdeath: not if you don't format
[02:36] <distanceisdeath> is that an option?
[02:36] <Cornellius> Which drivers are better
[02:36] <hyperactivecrond> distanceisdeath: not if you dont boot off of a cd
[02:36] <distanceisdeath> i really cant lose one of my drivers.
[02:36] <klormexor> Worked for me, come back and I'll try to help
[02:37] <Cornellius> Ones from NVidia
[02:37] <Warbo> distanceisdeath: The automatic update won't change your personal stuff, only the system. If you wipe and reinstall the latest from scratch you will lose stuff
[02:37] <Cornellius> or ones from synaptics ?
[02:37] <hyperactivecrond> !tell Cornellius about binarydrivers
[02:37] <hyperactivecrond> !tell Cornellius about nvidia
[02:37] <distanceisdeath> well, i have a pci driver for wireless internet and i cant lose that.  if i upgrade from the websites will lose that?
[02:37] <hyperactivecrond> distanceisdeath: not if you dont boot off of a cd.
[02:37] <Warbo> distanceisdeath: Drivers will stay if you leave the kernel (linux-image package) alone, but upgarding will alter that
[02:37] <ro> Warbo: It seems to work fine if I run it normally but if I use either the -class or -depth option for anything other than native it throws me an error...
[02:38] <HotDrive> johnnybong, do I need to roll the driver like you said?
[02:38] <Cornellius> hyperactivecrond: Thanks
[02:38] <distanceisdeath> well, im not using a cd. so will i be okay?
[02:38] <hyperactivecrond> np Cornellius
[02:38] <Nihni> I think I figured what broke Xorg -- using "upgrade" instead of "dist-upgrade". I'm sure the wiki said just "upgrade", could someone check and correct if necessary? I'd do it myself but I suck at text based browsers...
[02:38] <h3sp4wn> distanceisdeath: are you using ndis-wrapper ?
[02:38] <ro> Warbo: It gives me Fatal server error: Unable to find desired default visual.
[02:38] <Cornellius> Can we talk about emulators here ?
[02:38] <distanceisdeath> yes
[02:38] <kbrooks> Cornellius: Ak.
[02:38] <kbrooks> ask
[02:38] <Warbo> ro: Why would you want to, it's not like it is actually running at that depth (ahh, Amigas with their multiple resolutions on one monitor...)
[02:39] <johnnybong> hotdrive: you can try unloading / reloading the driver after you've edited /etc/modules, or you can reboot (system might not let you unload saa7134 if it's in use - so you'll have to reboot then)
[02:39] <weeyaad> does anybody know of a good compatible PCMCIA 802.11 card?
[02:39] <distanceisdeath> yes, i have ndiswrapper, does that matter?
[02:39] <Warbo> I came in here for help and I'm solving everyone's problems except my own :(
[02:39] <poningru> weeyaad: many
[02:39] <ro> Warbo: I'm having problems running anything written with the srgp api (That's simple raster graphics)
[02:39] <HotDrive> ok, I'll try it now
[02:39] <poningru> weeyaad: where do you live?
[02:40] <ucordes> how can i search by keyword for installed packets in console?
[02:40] <weeyaad> alaska
[02:40] <r0xoR> i'm trying to do an ubuntu install on an ibook but it froze last time during boot
[02:40] <Cornellius> I'm having trouble with Zsnes. It works, but the graphics are so-so. Just like if there was water on the screen, like the frame-skip wasn't able to follow. I ''think'' it might be a problem with my Nvidia drivers, because it works @ 100 % on windows with the same hardware.
[02:40] <johnnybong> hotdrive: let me know how you get on
[02:40] <Nihni> are the dapper package servers dying? I'm stuck at "Waiting for headers", and connections to other servers seem OK...
[02:40] <deville75> hi can someone help me figure out if i'm using Breezy or Dapper, and what the difference is
[02:40] <tonyyarusso> Warbo: Ask yours again - we have a high turnover right now
[02:40] <r0xoR> i did a check-powerpc at the boot: prompt for the CD installer
[02:40] <Warbo> ro: I'm way out of my depth then, sorry (I think using "-ac" is an advanced option)
[02:40] <ro> Warbo: But it works if I run it in 8bit depth, so I thought why not Xnest an 8bit x?
[02:40] <poningru> weeyaad: I will point you to the one I bought
[02:40] <poningru> works out of the box
[02:40] <r0xoR> but it's gotten hung on "Checking ./casper/filesystem.squashfs"
[02:40] <r0xoR> it's been there for like over 10 minutes
[02:40] <tonyyarusso> Nihni: I don't know, but it's possible.
[02:40] <ferris_> hey how do you make the panels transparent?
[02:40] <hyperactivecrond> r0xoR: is the md5sum correct?
[02:41] <r0xoR> hyperactivecrond, yes it is
[02:41] <Nihni> And now connections failing entirely~
[02:41] <hyperactivecrond> ferris_: transset
[02:41] <Warbo> ro: I'm guessing the Xnest session isn't starting and then the window cannot be assigned to it (because it's not there) which is why yuou get an error, or something like that
[02:41] <hyperactivecrond> r0xoR: what version?
[02:41] <r0xoR> hyperactivecrond, the interesting thing is that that the live version boots fine
[02:41] <h3sp4wn> ro: You should use xserver-xephr in preferance to xnest - see the ouput of aptitude show xnest
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> ferris_: Right-click properties and poke around I think.
[02:41] <r0xoR> hyperactivecrond, dapper
[02:41] <Nihni> are there any up to date dapper mirrors?
[02:41] <hyperactivecrond> r0xoR: have you smited the ubuntu gods yet?
[02:41] <hyperactivecrond> Nihni: ubuntu.com/download
[02:41] <ferris_> thanks hyperactivecrond
[02:41] <sloof3> sudo: Timestamp to far in the future.  I suspect it'd because I just synced my clock backwards almost a day
[02:41] <r0xoR> hydroksyde, wtf?
[02:41] <ucordes> klormexor: i can't install it cause when i boot i get black screen :-(
[02:41] <hyperactivecrond> bill's in the mail (aka np)
[02:41] <r0xoR> hyperactivecrond, er i mean wtf?
[02:42] <distanceisdeath> if i upgrade to dapper will i lose my ndiswrappers?  (not from cd...from update manager)
[02:42] <matgates> I'm having trouble with the CD installer - hangs just after the splash screen. and after a few mins I get IO error messages.  Have tried two different media so far, burning #3 now... anyone else?
[02:42] <hyperactivecrond> r0xoR: i'm lost in other words
[02:42] <Cornellius> Anyone knows good repositories for Dapper ? I'm using just those who came with Dapper at the install atm.
[02:42] <klormexor> ummmm
[02:42] <r0xoR> hyperactivecrond, yes i see that
[02:42] <Warbo> I really need to get a CD written to let me boot my Ubuntu system (USB, long story) and I've tested my image in QEmu and stuff and it is fine, but I cannot write it to CD
[02:42] <ro> Warbo, h3sp4n: Cheers guys. I'll have a poke at that.
[02:42] <krazykit> distanceisdeath: no, it should still work just fine
[02:42] <klormexor> you gonna have to manually change a string in the xorg.conf i think. let me look that up. so you can boot back to your graphical desktop
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> matgates: Make sure to burn at a low speed.
[02:42] <distanceisdeath> oh okay. thanks krazy
[02:42] <klormexor> ucordes: are you in irssi
[02:42] <poningru> weeyaad: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16839130011
[02:43] <ucordes> would be very kind of you
[02:43] <titanium_platypu> I finally figured out what to do
[02:43] <poningru> weeyaad: thats the best one I found
[02:43] <poningru> and cheapest too
[02:43] <hyperactivecrond> titanium_platypu: enlighten us
[02:43] <klormexor> ucordes: or on another bo
[02:43] <klormexor> x
[02:43] <matgates> tonyyarusso: ok, I'll try that, thanks.
[02:43] <titanium_platypu> download the main .iso from the Czech Republic mirror! :-P
[02:43] <ucordes> i'm in the recovery mode. what is irssi?
[02:43] <johnnybong> Warbo: where is it failing in the write process?
[02:43] <delire> ucordes: an irc client
[02:43] <hyperactivecrond> woah cd's done time to install
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> ucordes: An irc client, so you can talk in places like this.  I use it.
[02:43] <h3sp4wn> ro: /usr/bin/Xephyr :1 -ac -screen 1024x768 (is how you start it) DISPLAY=:1 then just run your command
[02:43] <klormexor> ucordes: chat client. ok let me check something
[02:43] <r0xoR> grrr
[02:43] <r0xoR> oh well
[02:43] <ucordes> ah i'm on my other machine with mirc
[02:44] <ucordes> windows :-/
[02:44] <matgates> tonyyarusso: although the default is only to burn at ~4x
[02:44] <Cornellius> irssi= terminal basewd irc
[02:44] <klormexor> ucordes:  oh ok
[02:44] <Warbo> johnnybong: The drive's light turns red and stuff (it does that when it is writing) but k3b's progress bars don't move and it says failure, and that TAO mode may fix it. If I use TOA then it cannot fixate the disc
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> matgates: That should be slow enough...
[02:44] <ucordes> but i have direct acces to the console here
[02:44] <klormexor> ucordes: were you able to log in before thru gnome? just not now
[02:45] <matgates> tonyyarusso: This new burn is fresh media... the others were on older stuff.
[02:45] <ucordes> yes. when i first booted i had display
[02:45] <coz_> evening all
[02:45] <johnnybong> Warbo: is it an .iso you're burning? if so, are you electing to burn CD image?
[02:45] <ucordes> i think the fglrx driver from "restricted packages" or so where madwifi drivers are included also
[02:45] <delire> Warbo: have you tried Gnomebaker?
[02:45] <klormexor> ucordes: ok, there's a way by setting 'vesa' somewhere in a file to get back the display
[02:46] <deville75> wuts the difference between Dapper and Breezy
[02:46] <distanceisdeath> Why isnt update manager finding dapper?
[02:46] <matgates> deeel: breezy is the old version, dapper is fresh today!
[02:46] <coz_>  I have a puzzle here, I installed wayv hand writing recognition, it works fine logged as root but not in the user account, all permission have been set for user and it is owned by user ,, andy ideas?
[02:46] <delire> deville75: 'wuts'?
[02:46] <matgates> deeel: sry, wrong nick
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> matgates: That's a point too - make sure you're burning a CD image.
[02:46] <Warbo> johnnybong: Yes, I know I'm choosing all of the right options as I've done it a million times before, but now it is not working on a brand new set of CDR discs (I've tried it with some others as well)
[02:46] <deville75> What is the difference between Breezy and Dapper
[02:46] <matgates> deville75: breezy is the old version, dapper is fresh today!
[02:46] <klormexor> deville75: One is a Diaper like and the other one Breezes the smell. Lol ...joking theyre versions I guess
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> distanceisdeath: Give it the -d switch.
[02:46] <ucordes> klormexor: hmm but how do i do so?
[02:46] <distanceisdeath> say what tony?
[02:47] <Toma-> where the torrent for ubuntu-6.06-live?
[02:47] <klormexor> ucordes: gime a sec
[02:47] <matgates> tonyyarusso: I get the boot screen, but after I select "check media" or "install" I get the IO messages.
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> distanceisdeath: Run update-manager -d instead of just update-manager.
[02:47] <Warbo> delire: I tried Nautilus first, then Gnomebaker and then k3b (which seems to work when all else fails). I would also try cdrecord from the command line, but it works dodgy on 2.6 kernels
[02:47] <delire> deville75: dapper is newer and has many new features, from the kernel to the desktop
[02:47] <distanceisdeath> ohh
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> matgates: Was the md5sum on your download okay?
[02:47] <johnnybong> warbo: strange. since you're using k3b, are you on kubuntu?
[02:47] <matgates> tonyyarusso: yeah.
[02:47] <delire> Warbo: hmm cdrecord works fine here.
[02:48] <klormexor> ucordes: Note 1: If after reboot, your system hangs at a black screen before taking you to a graphical login - reboot to 'recovery mode' and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use 'vesa' instead of 'ati'. Then continue with the steps below.
[02:48] <delire> Warbo: what speed are you burning at?
[02:48] <Warbo> johnnybong: No I am in Gnome, and I've also tried k3b with gksudo as that sometimes solves stuff but no luck
[02:48] <matgates> Can I run md5sum on /deh/hdc to check if the burn is OK?
[02:48] <Warbo> delire: 4x (on a 40x drive)
[02:48] <klormexor> That Should get the screen back
[02:48] <matgates> */dev/hdc
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> matgates: I think that would work.
[02:48] <Cornellius> Warbo: CD Drive brand ?
[02:48] <deville75> so how do i kno which one is mine?
[02:49] <Warbo> Cornellius: Benq
[02:49] <delire> Warbo: how many different species of media (disks) have you tried?
[02:49] <johnnybong> warbo: have you tried right-clicking on the iso and selecting 'write to disc'? (use nautilus cd burner instead)
[02:49] <Warbo> delire: 2 so far, but I don't hink I have any more available
[02:49] <Warbo> johnnybong: That's what I did first (I always used 4x)
[02:49] <klormexor> guys whats a good terminal editor
[02:49] <delire> klormexor: this blank on X problem seems to be hitting alot of upgraders..
[02:49] <distanceisdeath> tony: "gksudo "update-manager-d"" does not work
[02:49] <ucordes> with which command do i change this value?
[02:49] <Hexidigital_> when i try to mount my Fat32 partition (after editing /etc/fstab) i get "mount: mount point /media/hda4 does not exist"
[02:50] <ucordes> gedit?
[02:50] <klormexor> delire:  ouch
[02:50] <Hexidigital_> any ideas?
[02:50] <delire> klormexor: i use vim
[02:50] <klormexor> ucordes: need one in text so u can change that file
[02:50] <klormexor> delire: ah let me see that
[02:50] <delire> klormexor: but i've done so for so many years no, my bias should be taken with a grain of salt ;)
[02:50] <deville75> delire: how do i know which version i hhave?
[02:50] <Stormx2> hey folks, hows it going?
[02:50] <tonyyarusso> distanceisdeath: A space between manager and -d.
[02:50] <Warbo> I'll try cdrecord and see if it actually works (complains about linux 2.6  before)
[02:50] <Fee^> Hexidigital_: make sure that directory is still located in /media
[02:50] <johnnybong> warbo: sorry, i'm stumped.. not doing too well tonight!
[02:51] <Fee^> also, check dmesg and verify that hda4 is still detected
[02:51] <CpuWhiz> i upgraded my other system today and the dapper kernel is not detecting my NIC: Realtek RTL-8169
[02:51] <ucordes> oh i don't know what to type
[02:51] <tonyyarusso> Hexidigital_: mkdir /media/hda4
[02:51] <ucordes> <-noob
[02:51] <klormexor> delire: hehe
[02:51] <deville75> delire: i'm guessing i hav Dapper since i jus recently got it shipped.. but it's better to kno for sure i guess.
[02:51] <Warbo> johnnybong: My pile of unused CDR discs is gradually diminishing :)
[02:51] <klormexor> delire: can you explain ucordes how to open up a file?
[02:51] <Overand> (Dapper final on PPC)  trying to install xchat-gnome, it just hangs at the "Setting up xchat-gnome (...)" chunk
[02:51] <klormexor> delire:  thru vim please
[02:51] <delire> deville75: of Ubuntu? lsb_release -r
[02:51] <tonyyarusso> Hexidigital_: Might need a sudo on that - not sure of the permissions on /media
[02:51] <deville75> oh kool
[02:52] <Hexidigital_> Fee^, tonyyarusso:: thank you guys...
[02:52] <Hexidigital_> tonyyarusso:: yes, sudo was needed
[02:52] <johnnybong> warbo: presumably to make nice beer mats? :-/ Oh dear...
[02:52] <delire> ucordes: to find out 'where you are' in the Linux filesystem first type 'pwd'
[02:52] <klormexor> im getting the grip of vim ucordes so i can get you to open that file
[02:52] <deville75> delire:  it jus gives me version number (5.10) how do i kno if this is Dapper or Breezy
[02:52] <jeffer> i just installed the new version of java and it still wont work with firefox
[02:52] <jeffer> can someone let me know how to instal the plugin
[02:53] <Fee^> 6.06 is Dapper
[02:53] <Warbo> johnnybong: There is one positive aspect. I can hurl them across the room after they eject with an error
[02:53] <hyphenated> deville75: you can also look at /etc/issue, which has version number and release name
[02:53] <jeffer> i followed the directions on the java web-site but it still doesn't work
[02:53] <Fee^> 5.10 is Breezy
[02:53] <klormexor> FirstLite: Harvard!
[02:53] <Overand> scrollkeeper-update is throwing weird errors when i try to install or remove xchat-gnome
[02:53] <delire> ucordes: (that's always a good thing to start off knowing) now 'sudo vim /path/to/file' to open it
[02:53] <Warbo> OK I have an idea, give me a sec
[02:53] <ucordes> in root
[02:53] <johnnybong> warbo: lol
[02:53] <MadMerC_> can anyone help me to create a shortcut or whatever its called in linux so that i can start thunderbird as root please ???
[02:53] <delire> ucordes: if it's a system file, yes.
[02:54] <Fee^> MadMerC_: why?
[02:54] <delire> ucordes: (eg not in your /home/ucordes directory
[02:54] <thomas> MadMerC_: why would you want to do that?
[02:54] <dli> MadMerC_, don't do that :(
[02:54] <Fee^> do you need root mail specifically?
[02:54] <ucordes> ok i navigated to / with cd ..
[02:54] <tonyyarusso> MadMerC_: Why?
[02:54] <ucordes> i'm so skilled lol
[02:54] <Fee^> just make all root mail goto your username
[02:54] <MadMerC_> Fee^ i need to start thunderbird as root so i can access my webmail accounts as well as my normal isp account
[02:54] <delire> ucordes: ucordes that's fine. what file are you wanting to edit?
[02:54] <thomas> hey guys, i've just updated to dapper, and I installed all the goodies with easy ubuntu, however in totem my dvd playback's sound is choppy. any idea why/how to fix it?
[02:54] <klormexor> ucordes: use this as the open path  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:54] <ucordes> klormexor: do i have to select vesa for desired X server driver?
[02:55] <klormexor> let me open the file one sec
[02:55] <Warbo> Hmmm, so far so good. Nautilus is at least seeing the blank CD
[02:55] <Fee^> MadMerC_: how does your regular username prevent that?
[02:55] <luis_> I'm trying to install Azureus but it wants to install Mozilla Suite, why's that?
[02:55] <delire> ucordes: ahah xorg.conf. so 'sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[02:55] <reconciliation> IS there a Internet Explorer .VMX appliance for VMplayer
[02:55] <tonyyarusso> MadMerC_: That doesn't make any sense.  You should be able to do it normally.
[02:55] <disposable> jeffer: which java did you install?
[02:55] <jeffer> jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin
[02:56] <ProN00b> how can i disable the dhcp client ?
[02:56] <delire> ucordes: once vim has opened the file, type the following to provide highlighting ':syn on' and hit enter. the entire document should now be in colour for easy reading in the terminal.
[02:56] <ucordes> im in the configuration guide now
[02:56] <deville75> hyphenated: hmm, i cant find the issues folder in /etc.
[02:56] <semq> hi anyone help me please
[02:56] <MadMerC_> Fee^ when i installed the webmail and hotmail extensions the only way i could get them to work was to start thunderbird with sudo so i then setup my hotmail account and now when i start thunderbird i cant access any of my accounts with my normal username
[02:56] <disposable> jeffer: did you debianize it before install?
[02:56] <Overand> http://pastebin.com/752568 - a chunk of the error that scrollkeeper is throwing when I try to install or remove xchat-gnome
[02:56] <uccoffee_loves_B> anyone 's using linux here?
[02:56] <semq> system hangs just after the "running local boot scripts /etc/rc.local"
[02:56] <raldi> I have a laptop that i was running Debian-testing on for two years, and i just recently installed Ubuntu dapper. It runs much hotter now. And i mean that objectively -- i have the temperature reading in my shell prompt
[02:56] <deville75> see the reason i need to kno what i have (Dapper or Breezy) is because i need to install the plugin for MPlayer for Firefox
[02:56] <uccoffee_loves_B> wrong forum....
[02:56] <tonyyarusso> deville75: It's /etc/issue, and it's a file, not afolder.  Better would be lsb_release -a
[02:57] <jeffer> i followed the directions on the java web-site and everything worked fine....i just ran into problems with the plug-in for firefox
[02:57] <raldi> It used to be around 110 F, and now it's like 140 F
[02:57] <wims> anybody know what might be wrong when i modprobe ndismapper and get an error message telling me there's no such module?
[02:57] <Warbo> uccoffee_loves_B: GNU/Linux yes
[02:57] <raldi> even when i'm not doing anything
[02:57] <deville75> but supposedly thers two plugins
[02:57] <deville75> one for breezy, one for dapper
[02:57] <dli> wims, ndiswrapper
[02:57] <klormexor> ucordes: in the Section "Device" Driver it should say "ati"  change that to "vesa" and save the file
[02:57] <disposable> jeffer: am i correct to assume java is enabled in you firefox?
[02:57] <delire> ucordes: then use the PageUp and PageDown keys to navigate to the section you're looking to edit.
[02:57] <wims> dli, sorry dniswrapper obviously
[02:57] <ucordes> when i try this vim i only see blue ~
[02:57] <deville75> YES i finally found it
[02:57] <jeffer> when i tryed to instal it it told me that the file already existed and it did not replace the old plug-in file
[02:57] <deville75> thanks guyts
[02:57] <wims> arg, i can't type, ndiswrapper
[02:57] <jeffer> yes it is enabled
[02:57] <kbrooks> !info
[02:57] <DrSpin> Dapper's MySQL-Admin is broken :O
[02:57] <klormexor> wims: lol
[02:58] <kbrooks> !info pida
[02:58] <ubotu> pida: (Python Integrated Development Application, a Python IDE), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.2.2-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 131 kB, Installed size: 892 kB
[02:58] <wims> i know i typed it correct though when i tried to install it
[02:58] <jeffer> the old plug-in is in the folder and i cannot replace it with the new one
[02:58] <klormexor> wims: dnis like whoa is that new :P
[02:58] <dli> !tell wims about ndiswrapper
[02:58] <kbrooks> !info pida dapper
[02:58] <Fee^> MadMerC_: uninstall the extensions as root, then install them as your regular user?
[02:58] <delire> ucordes: you can also use the Cursor Keys to navigate to the position.
[02:58] <ubotu> pida: (Python Integrated Development Application, a Python IDE), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.2.2-2ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 131 kB, Installed size: 892 kB
[02:58] <Warbo> Is checkinstall fixed yet? (it was broken in Dapper recently)
[02:58] <ZamoGordon> ok
[02:58] <wims> dli,  yeah well, i've done those
[02:58] <aaron> when I'm trying to configure a file for install it says that I don't have Qt, what does that mean?
[02:58] <klormexor> delire:  how is the file saved when one is done
[02:58] <disposable> jeffer: then your problem probably is with alternatives. have a look at update-alternatives
[02:58] <crimsun> Warbo: nafaik
[02:58] <roh> mmmh. much worse. speedstep is still broken
[02:58] <wims> dli, it works in breezy, but when i upgrade to dapper it fails miserably
[02:58] <Warbo> crimsun: dammit
[02:58] <wims> now i'm back to breezy :/
[02:58] <disposable> jeffer: and choose which java you want to use as default
[02:58] <MadMerC_> Fee^ as far as i know i did install them as user they just wouldnt work untill i used sudo to start thunderbird
[02:59] <dli> wims, did you upgrade kernel also?
[02:59] <Warbo> YAY! I love Nautilus!
[02:59] <jeffer> alright
[02:59] <Overand> I can't use my package manager anymore because scrollkeeper-update throws errors because of a queued removal for xchat-gnome - can someone help me out?
[02:59] <delire> klormexor: first he'll need to go into edit or 'insert mode'. once done ':wq' writes and quits
[02:59] <kbrooks> wims: grab the ubuntu cd :-)
[02:59] <klormexor> ah
[02:59] <wims> kbrooks,  i would if i had the cd
[02:59] <Warbo> Note To Self: Don't write CD images which are coming from a USB1.1 device
[02:59] <Overand> I've even pastebinned one of the chunks of the error message
[02:59] <luis_> I'm trying to install Azureus but it wants to install Mozilla Suite, why's that?
[02:59] <ucordes> wow this vesa stuff worked
[02:59] <wims> a cd*
[02:59] <klormexor> ucordes: make sure nothing else changes!
[02:59] <kbrooks> wims: "grab" = d/l
[02:59] <ucordes> thanks a lot delire and klormexor
[02:59] <delire> ucordes: so, when you've found the part you want to edit (i assume changing "ati" to "vesa") hit the 'i' key to go into Insert mode.
[02:59] <wims> kbrooks,  yeah, it was another typo
[02:59] <klormexor> heeh Hooray
[02:59] <wims> it's getting late here
[02:59] <MadMerC_> Fee^ apparently the thunderbird files that the extensions need to use are read only unless i use root
[03:00] <ucordes> now i will try to follow your guide, klor to install the good fglrx with 1280
[03:00] <klormexor> thanks delire, didnt know how to use vim now i do :D learned something new too
[03:00] <ferris_> /msg nothing
[03:00] <distanceisdeath> someone please send me the bot for the upgrade of dapper
[03:00] <disposable> jeffer: 'update-alternatives --all'
[03:00] <jeffer> where do i type that
[03:00] <klormexor> ucordes: go for it, it should work. Ive got an 8600 inspiron wide screen
[03:00] <tonyyarusso> MadMerC_: Then you want to chmod the extensions.
[03:00] <ucordes> i edited it with the reconfigure xorg stuff
[03:00] <disposable> jeffer: into a terminal as root
[03:00] <thomas> hey guys i need to find out where my dvd drive is in /dev how do i do that?
[03:00] <jeffer> o i c
[03:00] <delire> ucordes: then use backspace and/or the delete key. type away but be very careful. once done type ':wq' to Write and Quit.
[03:01] <klormexor> ucordes: good, perfect itll be better that way
[03:01] <distanceisdeath> how do you upgrade to dapper? (bot)
[03:01] <delire> ucordes: that 'saves' out the file.
[03:01] <Overand> I can't use my package manager anymore because scrollkeeper-update throws errors because of a queued removal for xchat-gnome - can someone help me out?  (I think my client was screwed up before, sorry if that's a repeat) - I even have a pastebin of some of the error
[03:01] <ucordes> i will save the log of this here and review the vim method later
[03:01] <delire> !tell distanceisdeath about upgrade
[03:01] <kbrooks> brb.
[03:01] <ucordes> but i'm happy to see the gui again now
[03:01] <delire> ucordes: cool.
[03:01] <delire> ucordes: did it work?
[03:01] <jeffer> There are 4 alternatives which provide `pager'.
[03:01] <jeffer>   Selection    Alternative
[03:01] <jeffer> -----------------------------------------------
[03:01] <jeffer>       1        /bin/more
[03:01] <jeffer>       2        /usr/bin/pg
[03:01] <distanceisdeath> thank you
[03:01] <jeffer> *+    3        /usr/bin/less
[03:01] <ucordes> i <3 my dapper desktop
[03:01] <jeffer>       4        /usr/bin/w3m
[03:01] <deville75> how do i install a Deb file?
[03:02] <Eleaf> ;p
[03:02] <jeffer> ?
[03:02] <ucordes> oh oh bad pasting
[03:02] <Madpilot> jeffer: next time use pastebin!
[03:02] <wims> pastebin that
[03:02] <delire> ucordes: hehe
[03:02] <klormexor> ucordes: run the dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver at the very end of all the setup, copying, installing etc etc
[03:02] <Eleaf> I think it looks quite nice.
[03:02] <Overand> deville75: dpkg -i packagename
[03:02] <jeffer> mybad
[03:02] <Overand> (as root)
[03:02] <deville75> k thx
[03:02] <Overand> so sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:02] <luis_> I'm trying to install Azureus but it wants to install Mozilla Suite, why's that?
[03:02] <axisys> after upgrading to dapper.. now I cannot make gnomebaker work.. i get this error message http://pastebin.com/752577
[03:02] <Eleaf> jeffer, it's so cute.
[03:02] <Overand> but you should try to get it just from the repository if you can
[03:02] <ucordes> ok klox
[03:03] <disposable> jeffer: DON'T paste like this. just go over all the choices, leave them all as default until you come to java. select your desired one.
[03:03] <ucordes> don't you think i should remove anything related to fglrx first?
[03:03] <TLE> /?
[03:03] <kbrooks> Overand: dont recommend that
[03:03] <Cornellius> Apollon is awesome
[03:03] <kbrooks> !installdeb
[03:03] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kbrooks
[03:03] <Warbo> Just making sure, linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7 is a current package in Dapper, yes?
[03:03] <Cornellius> Best giFT frontend I've ever used
[03:03] <Overand> kbrooks: And what should I recommend?
[03:03] <hyphenated> Warbo: packages.ubuntu.com will tell you
[03:03] <delire> axisys: hmm seems cdrecord is playing up. this was with 'sudo gnomebaker'?
[03:03] <ucordes> klormexor: ..Before I install the new driver
[03:04] <kbrooks> ubotu: installdeb  is <reply>Find the .deb file in the "File Manager" and then double click on it. No need to use the terminal.
[03:04] <axisys> delire: i called from application menu
[03:04] <ubotu> okay, kbrooks
[03:04] <Hexidigital_> Warbo:: yes (if you have a k7 architecture)
[03:04] <jeffer> i instaled the new java stuff in a folder on the desktop and it doesn't have it as a selection
[03:04] <kbrooks> Overand: this:
[03:04] <kbrooks> !installdeb
[03:04] <ubotu> Find the .deb file in the "File Manager" and then double click on it. No need to use the terminal.
[03:04] <Overand> \yeah
[03:04] <jeffer> it only has the old java location
[03:04] <klormexor> ucordes: um u wanna remove the xorg stuff? like what
[03:04] <delire> ucordes: if the xorg-driver-fglrx from ubuntu doesn't work you can always (as a last resort) use the fancy installer from ati.com directly.
[03:04] <HotDrive> johnnybong, still there?
[03:04] <AlienX> wee, downloading dapper DVD at 1.4 mb/sec
[03:04] <delire> ucordes: though it really should. worked here.
[03:05] <MadMerC_> tonyyarusso the extensions are owned by user its the thunderbird files that are causeing the issue because they are owned by root
[03:05] <tonyyarusso> MadMerC_: Which files?
[03:05] <delire> axisys: try it again from the terminal (out of interest). 'sudo gnomebaker'
[03:05] <johnnybong> hotdrive: yes.. not for long though (it's 2 in the morning)
[03:05] <sorush20> how do I find out why when I try to install amarok from this source there is always a break in the package? http://www.google.com/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official
[03:05] <johnZay_> What is a good webcame to get for Ubuntu?
[03:05] <Warbo> Hexidigital_: OK thanks (making sure my boot disc is still supported)
[03:05] <Overand> so, I can't install, remove, or update packages, because scrollkeeper-update throws a ton of errors on trying to remove xchat-gnome
[03:05] <Hexidigital_> Warbo:: np
[03:05] <johnZay_> *What is a good webcam to get for Ubuntu?
[03:05] <disposable> jeffer: i don't think you can install it there. it should be somewhere like /usr/lib/j2re1.5....... etc
[03:05] <cluehammer> i can't believe 'most' didn't make it into main, it's so deliciously bloated!
[03:05] <Warbo> OK, I'm going to try my new disc. Bye
[03:05] <Overand> as it did when it tried to install it too
[03:05] <ucordes> delire: oh installer? this sounds great. how can i do this (what pack do i need) and what has to be done before i can install?
[03:06] <ferris_> you guys having a rough time with the new upgrade?
[03:06] <GameOver69> can someone help me, im away on vacation, and all of a sudden my network manger in kubuntu isnt finding any of my wirelss cares
[03:06] <ro> h3sp4n: It works, thanks a lot btw. "Xephyr :1 -ac -screen 800x600x8" I only ask for help after wasting at least four hours on it myself : )
[03:06] <GameOver69> cards
[03:06] <HotDrive> LOL... did what you said... have more options on TvTime, but still canot capture chanels... :(
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> Overand: Try apt-get -f install - read what it says it's going to do carefully before going ahead.
[03:06] <MadMerC_> tonyyarusso not sure really but when i look in the extension settings something in there tells me that the thunderbird folder doesnt have write permissions or something like that
[03:06] <klormexor> ucordes: follow method #2 if it dont work we'll set it back to 'vesa' again and start on method #1
[03:06] <jeffer> can i just cut and paste it to the correct location through the terminal
[03:07] <Overand> odd, somehow it ended up removed from the queue
[03:07] <delire> ucordes: you have tried the xorg-fglrx-driver though?
[03:07] <tonyyarusso> MadMerC_: Well you can always give write permissions.
[03:07] <jeffer> i know i can but how?
[03:07] <HotDrive> johnnybong: I think tomorow will be a better day to try other options. Thanks a lot
[03:07] <matgates> After burning the CD, I can't even see it in my existing installation.  I get weird messages from dmesg:  [4296575.355000]  hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
[03:07] <matgates> [4296575.355000]  ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[03:07] <matgates> [4296575.605000]  hdc: ATAPI reset complete
[03:07] <MadMerC_> how do i do that ??
[03:07] <delire> HotDrive: what is the TV card you're using?
[03:07] <johnnybong> hotdrive: ok, maybe you need to find out exactly which card you've got. i should be on again tomorrow eve. good luck!
[03:07] <kholerabb1> Whats a good CSS edtor?
[03:07] <LabThug_hm> Anyone know how long the update from Breezy to Dapper takes?
[03:07] <HotDrive> delire: Its a Easy TV card
[03:07] <ucordes> ok
[03:07] <disposable> jeffer: you can try.. but i suggest you install it again and properly this time
[03:07] <Stormx2> kholerabb1: Gedit, bluefish, screem
[03:07] <delire> HotDrive: right, not the Hauppuage
[03:08] <haasteem> hi, can you upgrade to dapper from breezy without having ubuntu-desktop installed?
[03:08] <axisys> delire: now i get this error http://pastebin.com/752583
[03:08] <disposable> jeffer: it should default to that location
[03:08] <MadMerC_> LabThug_hm my updates were 560Mb in size so took about 2hrs on a 512k ADSL connection
[03:08] <HotDrive> hardinfo says it has a Phillips chipset
[03:08] <disposable> jeffer: i'm off
[03:08] <delire> HotDrive: i would go to #v4l and ask there. this is the 'video for linux' channel
[03:08] <Madpilot> haasteem: better to re-install it before you dist-upgrade
[03:08] <tonyyarusso> haasteem: you can, but not recommended.
[03:08] <jeffer> ok
[03:08] <jeffer> thnx for your help
[03:08] <ferris_> haasteem you can
[03:08] <gambit> anybody have a link to what /etc/apt/sources.list should look like for amd64
[03:08] <tonyyarusso> haasteem: You won't get the same result, so I'd say reinstall, upgrade, and re-remove what you don't want.
[03:08] <haasteem> ferris_: how to avoid trouble?
[03:08] <delire> gambit: there shouldn't be a need to touch it.
[03:08] <HotDrive> ok, thank you too delire
[03:08] <LabThug_hm> MadMerC_: I'm on a cable modem, shouldn't be too much longer then :-)
[03:09] <gambit> delire: its blank
[03:09] <anyday> can anyone point me in the right direction? i installed ubuntu 5.10 x86 then i followed the instructions to install kde using apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, now i cant figure out how to make it my default window manager
[03:09] <HotDrive> untill other time...
[03:09] <matgates> oops sry for flood.
[03:09] <delire> axisys: it looks to me like gnomebaker is open at the same time somewhere else.
[03:09] <nomasteryoda> Congratulations Ubuntu developers and Community!!
[03:09] <MadMerC_> LabThug_hm yours should take less time i assume umless ur in a busy cable area
[03:09] <delire> gambit: what's blank?
[03:09] <haasteem> tonyyarusso: ok... but if i re-install it, i get a lot of other stuff installed... i don't really like that...
[03:09] <nomasteryoda> anyday, why not 6.06?
[03:09] <klormexor> ucordes: I had no idea of the 1024x768 crap. until after installing 8.18 and saw 2 gaps on my screen. Then I followed step 2 and uninstal xorg, install driver, follow the rest of the instructions until the reconfigure and youre done :)
[03:09] <delire> gambit: the sources.list?
[03:09] <smshaner> so anyone know if the LiveCD works on PowerPC with an ATI gfx card now?
[03:09] <LabThug_hm> MadMerC_: something tells me good old SC isn't a busy cable area :-)
[03:09] <anyday> nomasteryoda, ah 5.10 is the cd i had handy
[03:09] <tonyyarusso> anyday: When you select it from the Sessions menu and log into KDE, it will ask whether you want to make it default.
[03:09] <smshaner> I tried the dapper betas with no luck
[03:10] <gambit> delire: /etc/apt/sources.list  yes
[03:10] <tonyyarusso> haasteem: True.
[03:10] <axisys> delire: hmm let me try again
[03:10] <nomasteryoda> but you can upgrade it ...
[03:10] <aaron> what files do I need so I can configure something to install that I downloaded from the internet?
[03:10] <delire> gambit: strange. are you on Breezy currently?
[03:10] <MadMerC_> LabThug_hm lol i have no idea where SC is :P
[03:10] <klormexor> ucordes: be sure youre on sudo
[03:10] <anyday> tonyyarusso, i picked kde, it started up with the kubuntu logo then all the sudden it went back to ubuntu with gnome
[03:10] <ucordes> klormexor: ok so i'll skip to #2 immedeatly
[03:10] <klormexor> yes
[03:10] <gambit> delire: yes
[03:10] <haasteem> tonyyarusso: what is ubuntu-desktop for anyways?
[03:11] <Cornellius> I was going to try Dapper RC on the 31 May, and read that Dapper was being release on June 1st, so I<ve waited :)
[03:11] <ThE-LiGhT> hey, what should i do if i got this message during upgrading to dapper?
[03:11] <ThE-LiGhT> If you don't have 'universe' enabled these packages will be suggested for removal in the next step.
[03:11] <tonyyarusso> haasteem: It's a metapackage that keeps track of things that should be installed by default.  The dependencies on it have changed since Breezy, so not having it will mean you don't get some of the new packages.
 Cornellius: this is where we talk about developing the desktop, not heling people
[03:11] <Hexidigital_> Cornellius:: good choice :P
[03:11] <sampan> okay, next issue -- no sound at all.
[03:11] <ucordes> this will blow up my madwifi driver but i will install latest version then
[03:11] <IB-> hi, is there a livecd for 6.06 out yet ?
[03:11] <tonyyarusso> ThE-LiGhT: enable universe
[03:11] <Stormx2> yep
[03:11] <Cornellius> About #ubuntu-desktop
[03:11] <Hexidigital_> Cornellius:: did you install yet?
[03:11] <klormexor> if it dont work we'll go back to 'vesa' and find another way to get this going but it should work.
[03:11] <sampan> xmms/beep/amarok/system bell -- no sound at all :/
[03:11] <kbrooks> um
[03:11] <delire> gambit: i would 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && gksudo "update-manager -d"' that should do it.
[03:11] <ThE-LiGhT> tonyyarusso, how?
[03:11] <IB-> hi, is there a livecd for 6.06 out yet ? can't find it in http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[03:11] <Cornellius> Heartsbane: Yes, using it right now :)
[03:11] <axisys> delire: same error
[03:12] <tonyyarusso> anyday: Then I am truly confused.
[03:12] <LabThug_hm> MadMerC_: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=29407
[03:12] <Stormx2> IB-: it is.
[03:12] <tonyyarusso> IB-: Yes, but it's called the "Desktop CD" now.
[03:12] <ThE-LiGhT> tonyyarusso, thx a lot
[03:12] <IB-> why ? to confuse ppl ?
[03:12] <delire> axisys: were you burning CD's ok on Breezy?
[03:12] <haasteem> tonyyarusso: could you give some examples of such packages?
[03:12] <LabThug_hm> SC is #51 in the 50 United States
[03:12] <IB-> lts, desktop, whatelse ? :)
[03:12] <axisys> delire: yeap
[03:12] <Stormx2> IB-: ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[03:12] <IB-> if i use the "desktop" version, can i make it save persisent installation / stuff i a HD partition?
[03:12] <IB-> without "insatlling it" ?
[03:12] <tonyyarusso> IB-: No, b/c it has install capability too now with Espresso, so just calling it a Live CD wouldn't technically be correct.
[03:13] <Stormx2> IB-: No. The prefered method of installation is now the live cd
[03:13] <IB-> w8, so 'desktop' and 'install' is the same now
[03:13] <Stormx2> IB-: Why not install it?
[03:13] <charle97> i prefer the alternate install
[03:13] <MadMerC_> LabThug_hm im assuming that is somewhere in the US ??
[03:13] <delire> axisys: hmm. i'd tell the folk in #ubuntu-devel that you can no longer burn CD's after upgrade. i'd also make a forum post about this. it's a rare problem but important nonetheless.
[03:13] <IB-> w8, is there a file explaining all ?
[03:13] <johnZay_> why is the Wengophone on the repositories version 0.99 when they are on version 2.0?
[03:13] <axisys> delire: thnx
[03:13] <tonyyarusso> haasteem: Um...I could, but it would take some digging, so I won't right now.  You could go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and check the dependencies on ubuntu-desktop for differences between Breezy and Dapper yourself though.
[03:13] <IB-> what is mark nicks btw ?
[03:14] <delire> axisys: sorry i can't help more. there will be a fix. there always is.
[03:14] <IB-> what is "	ubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso" ?
[03:14] <Vez> why cant i get qparted to work so that i can create a dual boot system?
[03:14] <Stormx2> IB-: There are two CDs you want to worry about. The Live CD/Installer, and the Alternate Text Installer.
[03:14] <tonyyarusso> IB-: As in Shuttleworth?  sabdfl.
[03:14] <Overand> uh, am I losing my mind, or should I be able to type: tar -jxvf filename.tar.bz2?
[03:14] <Stormx2> IB-: Exactly what it says. the DVD version.
[03:14] <Overand> ohhh
[03:14] <IB-> ahh, cool, so the livecd/insallaer is what i need
[03:14] <Overand> it's not a .tar.whatever
[03:14] <pepinito> hi, what does it mean, "ubuntu-alternative"
[03:14] <IB-> what does the dvd have inside ?
[03:14] <Overand> it's just a .bz2- nevermind
[03:14] <ProN00b> how can i disable that annoying dhcp client for connections that do not need it ?
[03:14] <Cornellius> IB-: The three architectures
[03:15] <haasteem> tonyyarusso: ok, i will check on that...  i saw though that e.g. evolution is installed when installing ubuntu-desktop... i have never used it
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> pepinito: Alternative is the same as the old text-mode installer.
[03:15] <Overand> the intelligent tab completion in ubuntu is amazing
[03:15] <delire> ProN00b: use the network-manager or see System-->Administration-->Network
[03:15] <Cornellius> Shipit is awesome
[03:15] <Overand> (paramaters, not just filenames)
[03:15] <Cornellius> Nice little 'official' CDs :)
[03:15] <ThE-LiGhT> tonyyarusso, universe and multiverse are already marked
[03:15] <ProN00b> delire, i can only disable it if i set an ip, but i don't want to set an ip
[03:16] <ProN00b> or rather i can't
[03:16] <delire> ProN00b: simply deactive all the connections you don't want to use on startup.
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> ThE-LiGhT: Then you should be good.
[03:16] <LabThug_hm> MadMerC_: yeppers
[03:16] <Cornellius> I say, except the codename, 6.06 is a success :P
[03:16] <MadMerC_> how can i make a little terminal script thing like the windows batch file ??
[03:16] <ProN00b> delire, the connection needs to be active because i tunnel my pppoe over it
[03:16] <kbrooks> WHY DO people want the newest versions of applications such as xorg 7.1? what's the big deal?
[03:16] <ProN00b> but it needs no ip
[03:16] <ProN00b> kbrooks, cool features
[03:16] <delire> ProN00b: perhaps set it all in the /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:16] <ThE-LiGhT> tonyyarusso, so it all should be cool?
[03:16] <jiping> hi
[03:16] <MadMerC_> LabThug_hm well thats whyt i had no idea lol im in australia :P
[03:16] <Vez> how do i install ubuntu on my win xp machine
[03:16] <IB-> happy dapper day, rofl ;)
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> ThE-LiGhT: I think so.
[03:17] <klormexor> Vez boot to a CD/DVD
[03:17] <IB-> what is the "server" edition ?
[03:17] <kbrooks> ProN00b: like what?
[03:17] <ThE-LiGhT> tonyyarusso, thx dude
[03:17] <jiping> does anyone know how to install skype on dapper,
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> Vez: and keep Windows too you mean?
[03:17] <ProN00b> delire, can i set it so it comes up but it uses no dhcp and it doesn't have an ip
[03:17] <IB-> i mean, why is it a diffrent installation?
[03:17] <Vez> i am using live cd right now
[03:17] <klormexor> Vez: if you have extra space on another partition you an dual boot to it
[03:17] <kbrooks> IB-: a diff kernel optimized for servers
[03:17] <Vez> i have tried creating a partition, but there seems to be some restictions on what i am doing
[03:17] <IB-> k
[03:17] <jiping> can i just download the one on the website of skype and  install it?
[03:17] <pepinito> ok
[03:17] <Vez> i have admin rights
[03:18] <klormexor> Vez: as far as I know you can repartition NTFS  with Partition Magic
[03:18] <Cornellius> Vez: Do some backups before
[03:18] <delire> ProN00b: yes i can't imagine that's too hard. for fancy network connections like you require, i'd make a cup of coffee and 'man ifconfig'. it won't be time wasted.
[03:18] <ProN00b> kbrooks, for example i installed the new gaim beta because it had this really cool feature called psychic mode, where the im window opens as soon as the other person opens a window to you
[03:18] <Cornellius> Vez: If you're going to install on the same HD as XP
[03:18] <klormexor> Vez: I wiped my NT partition, split the new drive in 2 and did NT/Linux on it
[03:18] <IB-> i hate a gentoo aprtition
[03:18] <tonyyarusso> Vez: I don't recommend Partition Magic.  I'd stick with Gparted on a live cd.
[03:18] <kbrooks> ProN00b: teasing!
[03:18] <IB-> can i install ubuntu over gentoo ? :)
[03:18] <ProN00b> kbrooks, what ?
[03:18] <tonyyarusso> IB-: Over (replacing) or side by side?
[03:18] <IB-> replacing
[03:18] <IB-> i hate gentoo
[03:18] <IB-> :)
[03:19] <ucordes> klormexor:
[03:19] <LabThug_hm> MadMerC_: Nice to meet ya!
[03:19] <Vez> can i do that while chatting here for advice?
[03:19] <ProN00b> IB-, the ubuntu installer can reformat the gentoo partition and use it
[03:19] <altprsona> iv just updated from breezy to dapper via sudo apt-get dist-up , with the help of mwe , i have 2 issues upon rebooting. 1.  2. my desktop selection part of my task bar is gone.
[03:19] <delire> IB Gentoo is fine in a universe where time can't be measured.
[03:19] <IB-> i loved gentoo
[03:19] <IB-> but it's emerge is slow
[03:19] <MadMerC_> LabThug_hm lol yeah u too:P
[03:19] <IB-> delire: yeah :)
[03:19] <Cornellius> tonyyarusso: Yeah, PMagic failed on me once :-/
[03:19] <klormexor> Vez: um i dont think so, can u get on another box?
[03:19] <DJ_Danni> HELP
[03:19] <kbrooks> IB-: its PYTHON based
[03:19] <IB-> i've heard archlinux is like gentoo only with binaries
[03:19] <IB-> but i'm tired of it
[03:19] <ucordes> klormexor: when i removed the drivers the guide says i need to select "ati" in the xorg config. but i can't :-( there is no ati to select
[03:19] <aaron> alright, so can anyone help me?  I'm having problems installing software that I downloaded from the internet, I ran configure, it completed.   THe big part is to configure the distro to your needs after, so it can do all the things you do on Windows,
[03:20] <ucordes> ok
[03:20] <IB-> welp
[03:20] <IB-> laters all
[03:20] <IB-> tnx
[03:21] <skippy81> i guess this is now the dapper channel guys?#
[03:21] <MadMerC_> delire how do i do that ??? is there a line i need at the start of the file ??
[03:21] <DJ_Danni> ?
[03:21] <kbrooks> skippy81: yes.
[03:21] <klormexor> ucordes: the standard device linux points to is "ati" well standard for my install, others could be set at vesa
[03:21] <delire> MadMerC_: start with '#!/bin/sh' write a your commands underneath that, chmod +x it and away you go ..
[03:21] <ucordes> klormexor: there is no more fglrx either
[03:21] <klormexor> sup skippy
[03:21] <MadMerC_> delire ok thanx for that
[03:21] <klormexor> ucordes: um
[03:21] <ucordes> only vesa
[03:21] <delire> MadMerC_: chmod +x the file. that sets the file executable.
[03:21] <LabThug_hm> MadMerc, create a file with #!/bin/sh at the to and chmod +x the file
[03:22] <semq> "running local boot scripts (etc/rc.local)      [ok] "
[03:22] <MadMerC_> delire roger that
[03:22] <LabThug_hm> yeah, like delire said
[03:22] <delire> MadMerC_: then you can './file.sh' or 'sh file.sh' to exectute it.
[03:22] <semq> eth0 ipv6 router not present
[03:22] <H080J03> k guys i have some really good news
[03:22] <skippy81> elo :) Ive just spent nearly 24 hours playing Chaos Strikes Back hehe ( had to set up a 32bit Chroot just to play it for some reason)
[03:22] <klormexor> ucordes: ok let me back track a second and find out if you have to do something additional prior to what you just did
[03:22] <klormexor> hang on
[03:22] <H080J03> i am eraseing my entire hard drive for ubuntu
[03:22] <delire> MadMerC_: or yeah, simply click on it in Gnome.
[03:22] <Vez> i have tried partition magic, qparted and some other partitioning software, but nothing seems to help.  my hdd already seems to have some partitions that are factory made with os sys backups. could this be causing the problem?
[03:22] <H080J03> no going back
[03:22] <delire> H080J03: that's the spirit ;)
[03:22] <H080J03> i know
[03:22] <semq> system hangs for a while then
[03:22] <Burgundavia> delire: please do not suggest to people that they tell #ubuntu-devel about a problem
[03:22] <H080J03> k i have to restart and install ubuntu
[03:22] <Cornellius> Vez: Just use gParted (typo ?)
[03:23] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me?
[03:23] <skippy81> Vez, if you PC has a hidden partition on the disk it shouldnt matter
[03:23] <ppires> hi there. anyone is having problems installing vmware-player?
[03:23] <kbrooks> Burgundavia: when did he do that?
[03:23] <ucordes> i removed xorg-driver-fglrx, fglrx-control and inux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[03:23] <Burgundavia> delire: if it is a bug, it should be filed in Launchpad. If it a support issue, they need to try the forums and the mailing list if nobody can help them here
[03:23] <delire> Burgundavia: i think that person had reached a point where he should register a bug, tell developers if he sees fit and post it in a forum.
[03:23] <semq> [xxxxx.xxxxx]   xxx xxxxxx IP xxx xx
[03:23] <semq> 5 lines
[03:23] <h3sp4wn> kbrooks: Is easyubuntu going to be written in a compiled language ever ?
[03:23] <klormexor> ok
[03:23] <semq> then hangs completely
[03:23] <skippy81> DJ_Danni, repeat your question please, new people joining every 2 seconds :)
[03:23] <Doomhammer> guys i'm having some trouble getting /etc/fstab to automount some samba shares
[03:23] <Doomhammer> this is what I've got so far:
[03:23] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: never.
[03:23] <delire> Burgundavia: which is why i suggested forums also.
[03:23] <Cornellius> easyubuntu ?
[03:23] <Burgundavia> delire: no, users should not tell developers about bugs. It is useless. We have a bug tracker for that
[03:23] <semq> since i updated to dapper)
[03:23] <Vez> well with all the software i have tried it says that my ntfs partition is not able to be resized
[03:23] <BioVorE> !easyubuntu
[03:23] <ubotu> I guess easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[03:23] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: python is not a compiled language.
[03:24] <nomasteryoda> man sure is interesting to see how many torrent seeds and peers there are
[03:24] <delire> Burgundavia: ok
[03:24] <Doomhammer> /<IP_ADDRESS>/ajrdata /mnt/ajrdata smbfs username=ajr,password=xxxx 0 0
[03:24] <Burgundavia> delire: thanks
[03:24] <h3sp4wn> kbrook: I know which makes it slow
[03:24] <LabThug_hm> Vez, check your drive for errors.  I had one with errors and I couldn't resize it either
[03:24] <ThE-LiGhT> hey, finished the upgrade... asked to restart now, i've clicked it and now its freezed
[03:24] <DJ_Danni> Skippy81 i am trying to go to Add Aplicasion and se say it is somthang running byt in system monitor i cannoat found it:S
[03:24] <aaron> Can anyone answer a question for me?
[03:24] <ppires> anyone is having problems installing vmware-player?
[03:24] <Cornellius> Should run a defrag no ?
[03:24] <klormexor> ucordes: did you run this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  I ran the Breezy installation step by step until the NOTES section
[03:24] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: talk in #easyubuntu about easyubuntu
[03:24] <no0tic> hi all!
[03:24] <Vez> i did chkdsk in winXP and no errors came up
[03:25] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: not here. #ubuntu is incredibly busy
[03:25] <Vez> ran defrag about 20 times too
[03:25] <delire> Cornellius: there shouldn't be a need, there is no such thing as fragmentation on an ext2/ext3 system as such.
[03:25] <LabThug_hm> Vez, how much freespace?
[03:25] <delire> Cornellius: or is this prior to partitioning on the windows side..
[03:25] <Vez> 81%, i got a 70.5gd drive
[03:25] <ThE-LiGhT> hey, finished the upgrade... asked to restart now, i've clicked it and now its freezed (the upgrading tool window)
[03:25] <ppires> i try to install vmware-player but it's dieing. anyone knows anything about this?
[03:25] <DJ_Danni> Skippy81 i am trying to go to Add Aplicasion and se say it is somthang running byt in system monitor i cannoat found it:S
[03:25] <klormexor> ucordes:  whats your card again x600?
[03:25] <Cornellius> delire: Yep, that's what I meant
[03:25] <ucordes> klormexor: now im a lil confused: i used this one http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide
[03:25] <klormexor> ucordes: is that the laptop model
[03:25] <squid> #ubuntu-es
[03:25] <skippy81> DJ_Danni I dont quite understand, are you gettng an error?
[03:26] <ucordes> using the #2 method
[03:26] <klormexor> ucordes:  yes thats fine, but i thought you had run the HowToATI before sorry i didnt ask :)
[03:26] <ryan_d> does anyone have a clean sources.list that i can use to then upgrade to dapper?
[03:26] <ThE-LiGhT> someone? my upgrading tool window is freezed
[03:26] <skippy81> i dont understand "se say it is somthang running byt in system monitor i cannoat found it:S" can you rephrase it please DJ_Danni
[03:27] <xfcefreak> !+sources
[03:27] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:27] <delire> ucordes: did you try the xorg-driver-fglrx after all?
[03:27] <Vez> i have tried doing alot of "walk-throughs" and with each of them i get different messages that halt my progress to partitioning my hdd and installing ubuntu
[03:27] <xfcefreak> ryan_d: the last link on there is dapper sources
[03:27] <semq> ryan i found this sources.list on the ubuntu forum
[03:27] <xfcefreak> ack
[03:27] <DJ_Danni> I am trying to go to Add a Software and when i trying to open it i get error.
[03:27] <ucordes> umm but that guide tells me to reinstall what i just removed. but i thought i need the new fglrx version from ati?
[03:27] <ryan_d> xfcefreak: thank you
[03:27] <xfcefreak> hold on a sec
[03:27] <semq> but now system hangs
[03:27] <xfcefreak> ryan_d: its not working
[03:27] <charle97> xfcefreak, do you like xfce?
[03:27] <Hexidigital_> DJ_Danni:: what error>?
[03:28] <ryan_d> that last repo isn't working?
[03:28] <snoops> hmm
[03:28] <LabThug_hm> Vez, can you post some of the messages?
[03:28] <skippy81> ryan_d,  http://pastebin.com/752602
[03:28] <Hexidigital_> xfcefreak:: gnomefreak?
[03:28] <DJ_Danni> It say there is som Acheept or somthang runnung but i cannoat found it:S
[03:28] <ryan_> Does any one have time to help me mount my ntfs hard drive, im having trouble..
[03:28] <altprsona> k, how do i check my video driver version?
[03:28] <snoops> has anyone had problems doing a clean install with sata drives?
[03:28] <ucordes> klormexor: umm but that guide tells me to reinstall what i just removed. but i thought i need the new fglrx version from ati?
[03:28] <Vez> i didnt write them down, and i am using a live cd right now
[03:28] <xfcefreak> ryan_d: no its not i had put a clean list in the bot someone pulled it out
[03:28] <xfcefreak> hold on let me get it
[03:28] <snoops> What we think might have happened is, the grub bootloader installed itself on the wrong mbr
[03:28] <imc_> hey y'all - important question: does windows media player play back .ogg files?
[03:29] <ryan_d> xfcefreak: perfect, i'm off to try it, thanks again
[03:29] <klormexor> ucordes: right i guess its maybe why youre not seeing ati cuz it was never run
[03:29] <snoops> the ide drive that is, instead of the sata one it was supposed to be on
[03:29] <xfcefreak> ryan_d: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.com/751665
[03:29] <xfcefreak> Hexidigital_: yes
[03:29] <klormexor> ucordes: keep doin method #
[03:29] <klormexor> 2
[03:29] <ThE-LiGhT> can someone please help me with the freezed upgrading tool?
[03:29] <Hexidigital_> xfcefreak:: :) nice
[03:29] <xfcefreak> ;)
[03:29] <DJ_Danni> Hexidigital_ It say there is som Acheept or somthang runnung but i cannoat found it:S
[03:29] <klormexor> ucordes: so you dont get fglrx
[03:29] <ryan_> Does any one have time to help me mount my ntfs hard drive, im having trouble...
[03:29] <skippy81> ThE-LiGhT, where abouts has it frozen?
[03:29] <snoops> imc_ not without some ogg vorbis codec on your system I don't believe
[03:29] <Cornellius> xfcefreak: I suppose you're running Xubuntu, judging by your username ? :P
[03:30] <imc_> Ah, thanks. I'm trying to share something with a windows user.
[03:30] <semq> after "running local scripts", what's the next command before login screen?
[03:30] <charle97> imc_, use winamp
[03:30] <delire> imc_: tell him to install VLC from http://videolan.org
[03:30] <skippy81> ThE-LiGhT, try opening a terminal, and typing the word "top", see if wvdialconf is at the top of the list
[03:30] <ThE-LiGhT> skippy81, at the end.. i was asked to restart now, i clicked that button and it freezed
[03:30] <ucordes> well i selected vesa now
[03:30] <imc_> oh, thanks. Much appreciated!
[03:30] <xfcefreak> Cornellius: just for a lil bit ive been customixing it but i used this name for lack of people beeping me while away
[03:30] <klormexor> ok
[03:30] <klormexor> ucordes:  when you run sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx what do you get ?
[03:30] <DJ_Danni> Hexidigital_ Do you know what Wrong?
[03:30] <skippy81> ThE-LiGhT,  oh i see, dont worry about checking the processes
[03:30] <ryan_d> xfcefreak: should i use the first or second repo?
[03:30] <snoops> delire using vlc for a music player is pretty inane
[03:30] <Cornellius> gnomefreak: hahaha
[03:30] <charle97> gnomefreak, do you like gnome?
[03:31] <Vez> who can offer a noob some assistance
[03:31] <Hexidigital_> DJ_Danni:: researching it now... hold please
[03:31] <gnomefreak> ryan_d: use the one that has gnomefreak.pastebin
[03:31] <DJ_Danni> ok
[03:31] <ucordes> klormexor: i will reboot and install the 8.25 packet. but i noticed that you sent me the link to a 32bit. where can i find x64?
[03:31] <skippy81> ThE-LiGhT, can you press alt-control-f2 and see if it does anything
[03:31] <ryan_d> ok
[03:31] <delire> snoops: it's the only application i've heard that plays *.ogg on win32 systems out of the box.
[03:31] <DJ_Danni> Hey hang on i am gonna Copy the messages
[03:31] <gnomefreak> charle97: sometimes
[03:31] <delire> snoops: there will be others though surely.
[03:31] <klormexor> um, oh didnt know that. isnt it in that page too hang on
[03:31] <charle97> gnomefreak: do you have a guide for using xfce?
[03:32] <h3h_timo> what version of open office comes with dapper?
[03:32] <ucordes> oh yes. 8.2518 right?
[03:32] <gnomefreak> charle97: there is one in xfce
[03:32] <Hexidigital_> DJ_Danni:: do you have the exact message?
[03:32] <skippy81> h3h_timo,  version 2.0
[03:32] <Cornellius> Man, I just love RhythmBox
[03:32] <DJ_Danni> Unable to get exclusive lock
[03:32] <jworr> I have a problem with apt
[03:32] <Blake7984> trying to install kubuntu and create a software raid 1 mirroring array following:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178400    however, i never see a raid option...how do i do what hes talking about in step 3/4
[03:32] <gnomefreak> charle97: there are many guides all over the wikis for different things
[03:32] <semq> shit
[03:32] <klormexor> ucordes: his guide refers to the 32bit version of the driver. If you are using a x86_64 System you need the 64bit Installer. The installation procedure should be the same as for 32bit, except some filenames will differ slightly.
[03:32] <DJ_Danni> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first
[03:32] <h3h_timo> well i have a list.. and i have it twice.. when i upgraded it mustve not removed...
[03:32] <gnomefreak> semq: language
[03:32] <DJ_Danni> This is get
[03:32] <delire> DJ_Danni: ensure no other apt using application is running, like Synaptic for instance
[03:32] <charle97> gnomefreak: but i'd like to learn from the xfcefreak
[03:32] <delire> DJ_Danni: also ensure you're using 'sudo'
[03:32] <DJ_Danni> How can i fix this?
[03:33] <jworr> can someone help me with my apt problem?
[03:33] <gnomefreak> charle97: take the offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:33] <DrSpin> whod o I report application stability issues to?
[03:33] <klormexor> ucordes: If youre running x64 here's the link to dl the ATI driver www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/64bit/ati-driver-installer-8.25.18-x86_64.run
[03:33] <Cornellius> DJ_Danni: Taskbar, check is Synaptic is running
[03:33] <delire> DrSpin: file a bug
[03:33] <DJ_Danni> ok
[03:33] <gnomefreak> jworr: what about it?
[03:33] <DrSpin> delire: donde estas?
[03:33] <MadMerC_> omfg my accounts have disappeared i cant even get to them using sudo
[03:33] <delire> DrSpin: they are read and rated
[03:33] <jworr> here is what it tells me
[03:33] <jworr> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg
[03:33] <jworr>   Could not connect to localhost:8118 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[03:33] <klormexor> ucordes: thanks for reminding me, assumed u were on x32
[03:34] <gnomefreak> jworr: dont paste in here please
[03:34] <jworr> sorry
[03:34] <delire> !bugs
[03:34] <DJ_Danni> syslogd is running
[03:34] <DrSpin> delire: none of the mysql GUI apps are stable on a clean dapper install
[03:34] <gnomefreak> jworr: can you ping it?
[03:34] <SEJeff> Does anyone know how to install the "fully supported lamp stack with 1 command" as per the release? apt-cache search isn't giving me much love at the metapackage name
[03:34] <jworr> yeah
[03:34] <Munchkinguy> Any way to set up printers in the terminal?
[03:34] <LabThug_hm> MadMerC_: are the home directories still there?
[03:34] <delire> DrSpin: https://launchpad.net/malone
[03:34] <gnomefreak> jworr: is the word deb infront of that repo in your sources.list?
[03:34] <LabThug_hm> and did you backup /etc before starting?
[03:34] <delire> DrSpin: right, which in particular?
[03:34] <MrObvious> Who here has got a wireless WMP54GS made by Linksys to work with 6.06 Ubuntu?
[03:34] <h3h_timo> !removekde
[03:34] <ubotu> Want to remove gnome/kde completely? Look at debfoster, it's a great help
[03:35] <delire> DrSpin: perhaps you should look at the Server install?
[03:35] <jworr> hmm let me see
[03:35] <DJ_Danni> Hey Cornellius the syslogd is running
[03:35] <ryan_> Can anyone help me mount my ntfs hd, I'm having trouble
[03:35] <cef> gnomefreak: also check for proxy settings
[03:35] <luis_> damn azureus is very buggy on dapper! it wasn't on breezy... you minimize. it disappears! it's popup messages lock down, you click 'hide' and the computer's monitor turns OFF! very bug, needs working;;;
[03:35] <DrSpin> delire: the server seems to work fine
[03:35] <pjw> Hi all, where can I change the name of my account instead the oem? During installation?
[03:35] <MadMerC_> LabThug_hm yeah they are i will just try to see if i can switch identities
[03:35] <nbx909> !tell ryan_ about ntfs
[03:35] <gnomefreak> jworr: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://gnomefreak.pastebin.com/ please
[03:35] <jworr> yeah deb is in front
[03:35] <jworr> k
[03:36] <gnomefreak> cef: how much you know about -proxies?
[03:36] <anthony> Hello, I have installed myspell-en-us, but my spellcheck in OpenOffice.Org Writer does not seems to be working. What is the problem?
[03:36] <ryan_> thanks
[03:36] <Overand> I'm getting a lot of mixed messages about how to set up my Airport Extreme (Powerbook G4 1.33 12") chipset BCM43xx - some resources say that dapper includes the driver, some say it doesn't
[03:36] <Doomhammer> how do I give a non-root account permissions to mount / unmount things ???
[03:36] <cef> gnomefreak: a little. that error could be caused by connecting to a proxy (setup in apt.conf or apt.conf.d)
[03:36] <skippy81> jworr,  this is what your sources.list should be like : http://pastebin.com/752602
[03:36] <gnomefreak> one of 2 things either proxie or dns and i dont do either ;)
[03:36] <jworr> there
[03:36] <jworr> I just posted it
[03:36] <Vez> looking for some advice her on how to partition hdd and install ubuntu
[03:36] <MadMerC_> hmm there is no identities option
[03:36] <DarkMageZ> anthony, in openoffice, check what region it is set to, and install the appropriate myspell pack :)
[03:37] <nbx909> !install
[03:37] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[03:37] <SillyRabbit> Doomhammer: can you use "su"
[03:37] <ThE-LiGhT_> skippy81 ??
[03:37] <skippy81> jworr you have to paste the link here lol :)
[03:37] <DJ_Danni> Hey Cornellius the syslogd is running is that one you was telling me aboat??
[03:37] <Doomhammer> sillyrabbit: i could, but i'd really rather not
[03:37] <nbx909> !tell Vez about install
[03:37] <LabThug_hm> It's updated, it's updated!!!
[03:37] <Doomhammer> sillyrabbit: isn't there some group i can add myself to ?
[03:37] <ThE-LiGhT_> skippy81 i'm now from the other pc
[03:37] <LabThug_hm> New icons are snazzy
[03:37] <cef> gnomefreak: would help more, but I've got a security update to address.. back soon
[03:37] <imc_> Trying to export from audacity to mp3; it complains it needs to know where libmp3lame.so is. can't find exactly that, apt-cache tells me Im at the right version of lame. What can I do ?
[03:37] <Cornellius> DJ_Danni: Just check for any word with 'apt' in it, like Aptitude or Synaptic
[03:37] <SillyRabbit> Doomhammer:  I am not sure how to do that in Ubuntu, sorry
[03:37] <jworr> here is my old one http://gnomefreak.pastebin.com/752612
[03:37] <Vez> i have tried "walk-throughs" and am not getting anyware
[03:37] <SEJeff> Overand: It includes the latest work in the kernel to make it work. The actual firmware can't be redistributed due to legal issues on the licensing for it.
[03:37] <Doomhammer> sillyrabbit: np
[03:37] <skippy81> ThE-LiGhT,  ok is your linux box totally frozen up? or can you get a terminal with control-alt-F2?
[03:38] <jworr> still did not work
[03:38] <jworr> apt tries to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:38] <Vez> i think it might have to do with how my pc came out of the box and the hdd was configured, maybe...
[03:38] <DJ_Danni> Cannoat see 'apt' Aptitude or Synaptic in System monitor.
[03:38] <ThE-LiGhT_> skippy81 i pressd alt+ctrl+f2, i wrote "reboot"
[03:38] <jworr> but when I boot into single user mode it works fine
[03:38] <ThE-LiGhT_> skippy81 now its freezed
[03:38] <anthony> DarkMageZ: It is set to United States English, and that's the MySpell package I have installed.
[03:38] <Vez> i just cant seem to partition hdd
[03:38] <Cornellius> DJ_Danni: Check if you do not have two Synaptic windows open, or if another terminal is using the command
[03:38] <gnomefreak> jworr: do you connect through a proxy?
[03:38] <anthony> !spellcheck
[03:38] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, anthony
[03:38] <SEJeff> DJ_Danni: What about gnome-app-install ?
[03:38] <jworr> nope
[03:39] <jworr> no proxy
[03:39] <Cornellius> DJ_Danni:... the command 'apt', sorry
[03:39] <imc_> Any audacity users?
[03:39] <anthony> !myspell
[03:39] <ubotu> anthony: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:39] <skippy81> ThE-LiGhT,  if it really wont respond to anything you will have to hard reboot it
[03:39] <jworr> and synaptic doesn't work either
[03:39] <MadMerC_> would it be safe to give myself write permissions on my /usr/bin folder ???
[03:39] <imc_> MadMerC no
[03:39] <SEJeff> MadMerC, no
[03:39] <Doomhammer> how can I allow a non-superuser account to mount / unmount filesystems in ubuntu ?
[03:39] <skippy81> ThE-LiGhT,  try and do it when theres no hard disk activty
[03:39] <gnomefreak> jworr: does sudo apt-get update get any of the repos?
[03:39] <GaiaX11> anthony, have you set up my-spell in the openoffice options?
[03:39] <Munchkinguy> Please, I would like to know how to add a printer using the terminal, or in non-GUI mode.
[03:39] <pjw> Can I change the name of my account instead the oem, during installation? Where is an option?
[03:39] <jworr> none
[03:39] <resonant> God damnit, I can't get .m4a's to play in Rhythmbox for the life of me!
[03:39] <imc_> Munchkinguy man lp
[03:39] <ThE-LiGhT_> skippy81 ok :) thx for your hep
[03:40] <resonant> I've added all of the required gstreamer-plugin-* packages