[05:24] <ArGGu^^> Hello, does anybody know how to change password with encrypted home so that the KWallet works?
[05:24] <ArGGu^^> As the password is not login password when using encrypted home.
[05:29] <valorie> !password
[05:29] <valorie> ArGGu^^: that *might* cover it
[05:40] <ArGGu^^> valorie Thanks, but unfortunately there is nothing related to KWallet
[05:40] <valorie> right, because only Kubuntu uses it
[05:41] <valorie> #kde might be better for that aspect
[05:41] <valorie> I don't know much about kwallet because it always Just Works for me
[05:42] <ArGGu^^> I think this is Kubuntu only thing, because pam-kwallet uses login password to open the Kwallet. But it is different when using encrypted home that Ubuntu and it variants support.
[05:43] <valorie> well, it isn
[05:43] <valorie> t working in Kubuntu in 18.04
[05:44] <valorie> we removed the option in the installer because it was *not* working
[05:44] <valorie> maybe it worked before, I don't know
[05:44] <ArGGu^^> Well it works on 17.04 and 17.10
[05:44] <ArGGu^^> Have not yet tried 18.04
[05:45] <ArGGu^^> But the problem is when changing password
[05:45] <valorie> yes
[05:45] <valorie> and I don't know
[05:45] <valorie> :(
[05:45] <ArGGu^^> The encrypted home still works after changing password, but not KWallet.
[05:46] <ArGGu^^> Or I mean it does not open KWallet on the login.
[05:47] <ArGGu^^> But the real mystery is what is the password on KWallet by default when using encrypted home. As it is not the login password or the encryption key.
[05:48] <valorie> which is why I suggested #kde
[05:48] <valorie> or even filing a bug report on bugs.kde.org
[05:49] <ArGGu^^> Well I will ask there if they would know
[05:59] <valorie> ArGGu^^: best in Euro-working hours
[05:59] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:05] <nxiss7> hello
[10:32] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:38] <nepenthe187> Hi BluesKaj
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Hi nepenthe187
[10:43] <mkokorev> hello can you help me with 3 monitors in KDE?
[10:45] <thatmuppit> hi peeps
[10:46] <thatmuppit> on a fresh install, but can't find the "Night Color" function I've tracked down online that should be in this release. Can confirm?
[10:53] <thatmuppit_> hi hi
[10:54] <thatmuppit_> fresh setup of bionic
[10:54] <thatmuppit_> looking for the "Night Color" feature that should be present
[10:54] <thatmuppit_> unsure if running Wayland here - just running a stock box
[10:57] <BluesKaj> that would be X11
[10:57] <acheronuk> thatmuppit_: not a feature available in a X session
[10:58] <thatmuppit_> so KDE/Kubuntu still on X11? I was under impression wayland was default on ubuntu for a while (since unity?)
[10:58] <BluesKaj> he's crossposting in #ubuntu too
[10:59] <BluesKaj> err #kde
[11:00] <acheronuk> thatmuppit_: X11 is default on ubuntu and kubuntu in 18.04.
[11:01] <acheronuk> wayland was tried for ubuntu 17.10, but they switched back for the LTS for maximum stability
[12:19] <dubis22> What meaning org.kde.pim.imapresource: Expunge failed in akonadi console
[12:33] <dubis22> kmail is not working well since upgraded from 17.10 to 18.04 may I've help
 @thatmuppit as far as I know there is no night mode in KDE
 I always intalling redshift and plasma widget for gim
[13:08] <irishman2020> Anyone else checking out 18.04? I installed Kubuntu 18.04, and I'm less than impressed with it. I was running 17.10 Kubuntu, and having little issues, and after installing a fresh copy my system wouldn't boot... it kept locking up when starting services (different services everytime). I installed a fresh copy, and multiple things that were working in 17.10, are now not working in 18.04. Examples:
[13:09] <irishman2020> I had a quad monitor setup, with nvidia 1050ti gfx card, and it now wont display all four monitors, only 3. as soon as I connect the last monitor, the entire 4 screens blank out. I even installed the latest nvidia drivers...
[13:11] <irishman2020> grated, I have 2x 4k and 2x 1080p monitors, but i should be able to handle that.
[13:37] <irishman2020> Hmm just tried 18.04 with standard ubuntu live, tried installing the nvidia-drivers-390 and its still not working properly, killed ubuntu with 3 monitors...
[13:37] <irishman2020> gnomeshell crashed
[13:46] <BluesKaj> irishman2020, if you're using ghnome then you should take your issues to #ubuntu chat , this Kubuntu( KDE/plasma) support
[13:46] <BluesKaj> gnome
[13:47] <irishman2020> Please read my earlier post stating that I tried kubuntu 18.04 first, then I testing with the ubuntu gnome live cd to validate that it was not a KDE plasma issue
[13:47] <BluesKaj> makes no difference
[13:48] <irishman2020> Ooook. I'll let it go. The original issue still stands, 18.04 kde/plasma crashes with nvidia-drivers-390, and 4 monitors (2x 4k, 2x 1080p
[13:50] <irishman2020> neauveu drivers didnt work either
[13:52] <BluesKaj> irishman2020, you'll probly have more luck since #ubuntu is a much larger chat
[13:52] <irishman2020> Ya, I think I'll need to take it to Xserver eventually.
[13:53] <irishman2020> rolling back to 16.04 for now... no time to wait for resolutions...
[13:53] <irishman2020> I'll do my testing with livecds
[18:05] <EvilRoey> hey does anyone here use EyeWitness? I'm getting the following error running it on my Kubuntu box: [*] RDP libraries not found. / [*] Please run the script in the setup directory! <-- note, I did this already though..
[18:29] <irishman2020> isn't that designed for kali?
[18:30] <irishman2020> evilroey: https://github.com/ChrisTruncer/EyeWitness/issues/239
[18:31] <EvilRoey> ok
[18:31] <EvilRoey> I did pip install rdpy, and now it works.
[18:31] <EvilRoey> thank you for that, irishman2020
[18:31] <irishman2020> no problem
[18:31] <EvilRoey> yeah, I just.. can't stand gnome
[18:31] <irishman2020> << same. they offer kali in kde now
[18:32] <EvilRoey> ok
[18:32] <irishman2020> but still... gnome > unity
[18:32] <EvilRoey> irishman2020: thanks for that
[18:33] <EvilRoey> hey hey now, we're in #kubuntu for a reason :)
[18:33] <EvilRoey> irishman2020: and thank you for that web page
[18:33] <EvilRoey> I was looking for just that kind of error report and responses by others for how to reoslve it
[18:44] <irishman2020> anyone used rabbitvcs with dolpin?
[22:09] <jordanthetoyboy> Bonsoir
[23:51] <chcknrub> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpKR4LZUsh4


[00:25] <Bashing-om> wxl: In UWN; anything we can blurt as to the nominations for the Community Council ?
[00:36] <wxl> Bashing-om: we stop accepting nominations on the 29th so i don't think so :(
[00:39] <Bashing-om> wxl: Are you getting nominations ? Maybe a article on how these are progressing ?
[00:41] <wxl> Bashing-om: we've got more than the required number, but not many more :/
[00:44] <Bashing-om> Great - We then await for sabdfl's list :D


[00:51] <waltman> sshing from the iphone is a lot more practical on the 4s
[00:52] <waltman> my train got as far as overbrook and stopped.
[00:55] <waltman> bored
[00:59] <waltman> I knew i should have taken the el/nhsl instead of the trai…we're moving!
[01:06] <JonathanD> waltman: regional?
[01:07] <waltman> yeah
[01:07] <JonathanD> new one?  So many suits on the train.
[12:08] <TheLordOfTime> heh
[12:08] <TheLordOfTime> try that every day
[12:08] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[16:54] <JonathanD> waltman: you see the cposc announce.
[18:59] <jedijf> he's still wearing a dress and a funny hat probably
[18:59] <jedijf> and people /are/ taking pictures
[19:03] <waltman> JonathanD: what cposc announce?
[19:03] <waltman> I've been mostly offline since 8 am
[19:04] <JonathanD> waltman: they announced a date.
[19:04] <JonathanD> etc
[19:06] <waltman> I'll check it out.
[19:06] <JonathanD> waltman: october 27th
[19:06] <waltman> I see.
[19:12] <argv_turk> quick programming question....
[19:13] <JonathanD> argv_turk: you missed a ;
[19:13] <argv_turk> I want to efficiently set a verbose flag
[19:13] <JonathanD> nevermind :P
[19:13] <JonathanD> thats usually a pretty surefire answer, too, darnit
[19:15] <argv_turk> wouldn't the best way to do that is just write the output to a stream?
[19:16] <argv_turk> then redirect that stream to cout if verbose flag is set?
[19:17] <argv_turk> my C++ skills are weak
[19:24] <TheLordOfTime> so're mine :P
[19:28] <TheLordOfTime> but i bet my ubuntufu is better
[20:13] <InHisName> JonathanD: the aug 11 item, does it need advance registration?
[20:13] <JonathanD> InHisName: you should register.
[20:14] <JonathanD> We'll take at the door regs if we still have space.
[20:15] <InHisName> So they might have a 'sellout' crowd.  Advance could be helpful.
[20:16] <JonathanD> Yes.


[18:01] <w-mute> Hi, folks. CPU frequency scaling is broken in hardy on my iBook G4. Against which package do I have to file the bug?


[10:28] <tjaalton> how come we have a bug report about nvidia-319?
[10:29] <mlankhorst> because people are insane
[10:29] <ricotz> tjaalton, probably someone using xedgers
[10:30] <tjaalton> ok, where do I throw it then?
[10:30] <tjaalton> in the 'invalid' bin?
[10:32] <ricotz> tjaalton, probably a misconfigured optimus setup
[10:32] <ricotz> tjaalton, so i guess unsupported/invalid then
[10:35] <tjaalton> yeah, closed
[11:37] <tseliot> ricotz: I have packaged the nvidia-modprobe tool which nvidia-319 requires. Is it already in edgers? Shall I upload it there?
[11:38] <ricotz> tseliot, hi, it isnt in edgers, feel free to upload it there with a matching version suffix
[11:39] <tseliot> ricotz: ok, good
[11:40] <ricotz> tseliot, i hope it is debsrc3?
[11:40] <ricotz> nvidia-settings should be transformed to it too, so the original upstream bz2 tarball can be used
[11:41] <tseliot> ricotz: yep, the file says 3.0 (quilt)
[11:41] <ricotz> good :)
[11:41] <tseliot> ricotz: yes, I can do that too
[15:35] <bjsnider> tjaalton, it was reported on a package called nvidia-319?
[15:42] <ricotz> bjsnider, xedgers contains those
[15:45] <bjsnider> ricotz, you said above that it wasn't in edgers
[15:45] <bjsnider> or did you just mean the modprobe thing?
[15:46] <ricotz> bjsnider, i mean the nvidia-319 package
[15:52] <tjaalton> bjsnider: it mentioned nvidia-319
[15:52] <tjaalton> against xorg
[16:11] <mlankhorst> and with that horrible hack posted on the switching stack bug, I declare EOD
[18:33] <tjaalton> omg, bug 1170074
[18:34] <tjaalton> a game doesn't work on nouveau
[18:36] <tjaalton> updated the headline
[18:38] <mlankhorst> meh ill look tomorrow
[18:38] <mlankhorst> finally something interesting nouveau wise ;D
[18:42] <smallfoot-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1170074
[18:42] <smallfoot-> April 17 Mesa update introduced regressions
[18:43] <tjaalton> ha, updated the headline already ;)
[18:43] <smallfoot-> I am on a GeForce 8600 using nouvoue driver, Tibia worked yesterday, today it doesn't
[18:43] <smallfoot-> ah, I see
[18:43] <smallfoot-> yeah, I don't know if its just on nouvoue or on across the board of all Mesa
[18:44] <mlankhorst> is there a demo or something?
[18:44] <smallfoot-> yes
[18:44] <smallfoot-> http://static.tibia.com/download/tibia985.tgz
[18:44] <smallfoot-> around 25 mb
[18:44] <tjaalton> url on the bug
[18:44] <smallfoot-> it segfaults on startup
[18:44] <smallfoot-> commercial proprietary game by CipSoft GmbH, german company, the executable is clean
[18:45] <tjaalton> pastebin the segfault?
[18:45] <mlankhorst> It's eod, but I'll look at it first thing in the morning..
[18:45] <smallfoot-> the segfault is just "Segmentation fault", nothing more
[18:45] <smallfoot-> eod?
[18:45] <smallfoot-> end of day? oh, I see
[18:45] <tjaalton> here it just complains about libGL.so.1
[18:46] <smallfoot-> oh sorry, I forgot to mention that
[18:46] <smallfoot-> if you're on ubuntu 64, you might need to install ia32libs
[18:46] <tjaalton> k
[18:46] <smallfoot-> as the tibia binary is 32-bit only
[18:47] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: dont you dare ;P
[18:47] <tjaalton> heh
[18:53] <tjaalton> works fine on intel anyway
[18:54] <mlankhorst> good!
[18:54] <mlankhorst> I was afraid I'd have to break into your home and leave your toilet seat up, then you'd get in trouble with your significant other, bahahha
[18:57] <tjaalton> she's not around
[18:57] <tjaalton> :)
[18:57] <tjaalton> kids are, but asleep by now
[18:57] <tjaalton> apitrace doesn't seem to work
[18:58] <tjaalton> so I'll just skip and let you deal with it tomorrow
[19:02] <smallfoot-> so its nouvoue specific, possibly nv50 specific
[19:04] <bryce> smallfoot-, can you run `gdb Tibia`, then `bt full` and paste the output of that into the bug?
[19:04] <smallfoot-> Okay
[19:04] <smallfoot-> "No stack."
[19:04] <smallfoot-> :(
[19:06] <bryce> smallfoot-, ah sorry, do `run`, then let it crash, and then do `bt full`
[19:06] <smallfoot-> oh
[19:10] <smallfoot-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5716784/
[19:12] <bryce> smallfoot-, thanks that's helpful.  Mind a few more steps to gather some extra data?
[19:12] <smallfoot-> sure
[19:14] <bryce> smallfoot-, apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 xserver-xorg-core-dbg
[19:14] <bryce> smallfoot-, then repeat the procedure (gdb Tibia, run, then bt full)
[19:14] <bryce> er wait
[19:15] <bryce> smallfoot-, apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri-dbg:i386 xserver-xorg-core-dbg
[19:15] <bryce> smallfoot-, then repeat the procedure (gdb Tibia, run, then bt full)
[19:15] <mlankhorst> don't you need libgl1-mesa-glx-dbg:i386 too?
[19:16] <bryce> couldn't hurt, but looks like most symbols are in the dri pkg
[19:17] <smallfoot-> should i get libgl1-mesa-glx-dbg:i386 too?
[19:17] <bryce> smallfoot-, sure, why not.
[19:17] <bryce> the more -dbg's the merrier
[19:17] <bryce> :-)
[19:17] <smallfoot-> ok :)
[19:17] <bryce> bbiab (lunch)
[19:21] <smallfoot-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5716822/ -- backtrace with debug libraries
[19:54] <bryce> smallfoot-, perfect, thanks
[19:54] <smallfoot-> :)
[19:59] <bryce>          tmp = 0x4 <Address 0x4 out of bounds>
[20:00] <smallfoot-> *clueless*
[20:00] <smallfoot-> hmm adress out of bounds sounds bad :s
[20:03] <bryce> yup
[20:04] <bryce> question is why it's set to '4'
[20:05] <bryce> (memory addresses usually look like 0x88e6e08)
[20:08] <mlankhorst> no, my mesa bug, and I'll look at it tomorrow :'(
[20:14] <bryce> fine :-)
[20:26] <bryce> tjaalton, mesa 9.1.1 changes not pushed to git?
[20:27] <tjaalton> bryce: still on ubuntu+1
[20:27] <bryce> mlankhorst:
[20:27] <bryce>   * Add some more patches to fix image copy regressions on nouveau.
[20:27] <bryce> ^ would help to list what patches were added, for grepping purposes.
[20:28] <mlankhorst> I thought I just lazily copied them to debian/patches/series
[20:28] <tjaalton> the four patches on series
[20:28] <tjaalton> oh hell
[20:28] <tjaalton> it still has the patches from anholt commented out :D
[20:29] <tjaalton> shouldn't be there at all
[20:29] <mlankhorst> [Supermassive fail (instant)]
[20:29] <bryce> seems there's some cruft too... patch 116 not in series, and there's two 118's
[20:30] <mlankhorst> second one needs to be removed
[20:30] <mlankhorst> merge failure
[20:30] <mlankhorst> 116 was kept for historical reasons, can be dropped
[20:30] <tjaalton> I don't have those here
[20:30] <tjaalton> so probably local cruft?
[20:31] <smallfoot-> new minor X.org Server was released today, it contains security fix
[20:32] <mlankhorst> yeah and unless you plug in usb devices and chvt, you won't hit it..
[20:32] <bryce> tjaalton, ah was looking at the wrong branch
[20:32] <smallfoot-> Ubuntu has updated their X.org Server?
[20:32] <bryce> seem to be cleaned up on ubuntu+1.  just need to merge that to ubuntu.
[20:33] <mlankhorst> I don't know, but it makes me want to look for more vulnerabilities in xserver, to get sru's done faster..
[20:34] <tjaalton> bryce: yes, actually the other way around, then push the result as ubuntu
[20:34] <tjaalton> with additional force
[20:34] <tjaalton> if needed
[20:38] <tjaalton> actually, easiest is to just add the changelog entry and force push it then as ubuntu
[20:38] <tjaalton> merging old upstream there ends up in misery
[20:39] <tjaalton> nevermind, old 'merge -s ours' trick worked
[20:41] <tjaalton> pushing it
[20:41] <tjaalton> there
[20:42] <tjaalton> now pull, and use the ubuntu branch for changes
[20:45] <Prf_Jakob> Hmm so I tried the beta2 CD on my MacBookPro5.1, in the past I have allways needed to use nomodeset but the X server at least start in the installer now it doesn't start :-/
[20:48] <tjaalton> does it work without nomodeset?
[20:48] <Prf_Jakob> nope, nouveau fails to set the mode
[20:49] <mlankhorst> it would be nice if you come up with those things before it's so close to release ;P
[20:49] <Prf_Jakob> haha :p
[20:49] <Prf_Jakob> the nouveau thing is a old bug.
[20:49] <Prf_Jakob> happens on 12.10
[20:50] <Prf_Jakob> actually looks like I lied, X doesn't start on the 12.10 installer either.
[20:50] <Prf_Jakob> Which is weird because I'm pretty sure I installed it via the gui...
[20:54] <Prf_Jakob> okay got X to work by installing nvidia-current
[20:59] <bjsnider> Prf_Jakob, what nvidia chip does the crackbook have?
[21:01] <Prf_Jakob> its a 9400GT/9600GT combo
[21:01] <bjsnider> surprised there's  nouveau issue on that
[21:01] <Prf_Jakob> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/specs/macbook-core-2-duo-2.4-aluminum-13-late-2008-unibody-specs.html
[21:01] <Prf_Jakob> ops no
[21:04] <bjsnider> isn't the 5.1 newer than 2008?
[21:04] <Prf_Jakob> http://everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook-pro-core-2-duo-2.8-aluminum-15-late-2008-unibody-specs.html
[21:04] <Prf_Jakob> nope
[21:04] <Prf_Jakob> I think there is a 2009 model as well
[21:04] <Prf_Jakob> ^ thats what I got anyways


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[03:39] <firecrotch> Okay, I have an install that's pretty much the default with Apache, PHP, mySQL... slight problem though... How do I get apache to handle perl scripts properly?
[03:40] <firecrotch> Instead of the script executing, it wants me to download it
[04:28] <GNu_Joe> Where do the ubuntu-server devlopers hang out?
[04:29] <lionel> here and on ubuntu-devel
[04:31] <GNu_Joe> not here, no one ever talks about ubuntu-server
[04:34] <hyrax_> heh. I just tried out ubuntu-server. To me it is a good base install for setting up a desktop where the defaults are not so "ubuntusized"
[04:35] <hyrax_> As a server install though, I saw X and alsa stuff being included in the base install. But man did not get installed.
[04:36] <hyrax_> Not sure why I'd want X and alsa on the type of servers I run. I guess I could trim back the base install some after the fact.
[04:45] <hyrax_> that being said, my install of ubuntu-server was the first unbuntu flavor install that did not annoy me in any way.
[04:46] <hyrax_> and seems to be a solid basis for a GNU/Linux insall
[05:18] <ivoks> X isn't a part of ubuntu-server
[05:19] <ivoks> oh, he left :/
[05:39] <dballester> hi to all
[05:41] <dballester> where can i get info about canonical movements to put ubuntu in the enterprise world? Any roadmap or similar ? Thanks and regards
[06:06] <dballester> I'm trying to install ubuntu-server arch amd64/em64T into one Dell Poweredge 860 ( http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/pedge_860?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd ) by now is the second time that install cd ( 2 different burns ) claims that  libiw28 packages is corrupt
[06:06] <dballester> md5sum for the iso image is correct
[06:06] <dballester> any tip ?
[08:07] <yomm>  Is it possible to completely boot off a server ,and run the OS 100% native on the client ? So in other words a diskless ubuntu-box ...Can anyone point me in the right direction ?
[08:09] <GNu_Joe> yomm, edubuntu has that function ( via the LTSP.org )
[08:09] <yomm> Gnu_Joe : I have a small spare box , and i Like to store several OS Images on
[08:10] <yomm> the server , so I can select which one to boot .. Is that possible with Edubuntu/LTSP ?
[08:10] <GNu_Joe> humm not sure
[08:10] <yomm> Gnu_Joe : I was under the impression that ltsp was still also not 100% native on the client
[08:10] <ivoks> boot client from server?
[08:11] <ivoks> wihtout a disk?
[08:11] <yomm> ivoks ; yes , but 100% native
[08:11] <yomm> if that is possible :)
[08:11] <GNu_Joe> ya LTSP runs on the server the client is just a terminal
[08:11] <ivoks> 100% native?
[08:12] <ivoks> it's normal linux
[08:12] <GNu_Joe> He wants a BIS
[08:12] <GNu_Joe> Boot Install Server
[08:12] <yomm> ivoks : native in the sense that all aps & processes run on the client not the server
[08:12] <ivoks> yomm: of course
[08:12] <ivoks> yomm: you need dhcp server, tftpd-hpa and ethernet card
[08:12] <ivoks> i have cluster set up like that
[08:13] <ivoks> all clients (60 of them) boot from network
[08:13] <yomm> ivoks: so tftpd-pha is the package to look at ?
[08:13] <ivoks> they have no disk, but all apps run on client
[08:13] <yomm> ivoks , yes thats what I wwant
[08:13] <ivoks> yomm: yes, it's trivial FTP which serves kernel to clients
[08:14] <ivoks> once client grabs kernel, mounts / over NFS
[08:14] <yomm> ivoks : does it support all OS ?
[08:14] <ivoks> and that's all...
[08:14] <ivoks> yomm: all OS?
[08:15] <yomm> ivoks :would I be able to serve any OS  that would run on the client itself ?
[08:15] <GNu_Joe> yomm, http://www.schnozzle.org/~coldwell/diskless/
[08:15] <ivoks> yomm: if by any you mean redhat, ubuntu, debian, suse, then yes
[08:15] <ivoks> if you want windows, you should talk to guys from redmond
[08:16] <yomm> ivoks : and if by any I mean windows , OpenStep ,& Darwin ?
[08:16] <ivoks> (i highly doubt that's dooable)
[08:17] <yomm> lol , the concept seems simple , just serve a disk to a client  .. but apparently not
[08:17] <ivoks> it's not that simple
[08:18] <yomm> :/
[08:18] <ivoks> your client has to get an IP, start portmap and nfs client
[08:18] <ivoks> mount network share as /
[08:18] <ivoks> pivot root from ram to mounted system
[08:18] <ivoks> and then continue to boot
[08:18] <yomm> ivoks : I see !
[08:19] <ivoks> that's called PXE boot
[08:19] <ivoks> great way to install ubuntu on lots of computers :)
[08:19] <yomm> ivoks : I heard of that
[08:19] <ivoks> or to manage cluster and not worry about updates on clients
[08:20] <yomm> ivoks , is  tftpd also a pxe variant ?
[08:20] <ivoks> yes
[08:20] <yomm> Gnu_Joe : thanks for the link
[08:20] <GNu_Joe> np
[08:22] <yomm> ivoks : you too , thanks a lot for the information , I'll go fire up my vmware server & start experimenting with tftpd ,I'll probably bug you guys a lil' more later on :)
[08:22] <ivoks> np; i'll give you my bank account :)
[08:22] <yomm> lol
[08:22] <yomm> i'll give you my money
[08:23] <yomm> <------ as if he has any !
[08:23] <yomm> ;)
[08:31] <yomm> ivoks : would this procedure approach what you described :    http://reilly.homeip.net/folding/linux.html
[08:34] <ivoks> there is more than one way to do it
[08:35] <ivoks> you should use ubuntu kernel
[08:35] <ivoks> http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[08:35] <ivoks> this is about installint ubuntu over network
[08:36] <yomm> ok thx
[08:38] <yomm> lol I'm having soo much fun with Linux :)
[08:41] <ivoks> heh
[08:41] <ivoks> it's not point and click
[08:41] <ivoks> but you can learn a lot
[08:52] <yomm> the clicky path is not necessarily the better :)
[08:52] <ivoks> i agree
[08:52] <yomm> though we all like some eye-candy once in a while :)
[11:45] <AMSmith42> When I apt-get install kubuntu-desktop I get a 403 Forbidden. Where should I start?
[11:46] <xenalise> a 403? O_o
[11:46] <AMSmith42> Yes.
[11:46] <AMSmith42> Just a sec. I'll get one of the messages...
[11:46] <mralphab1t> have you been bad?
[11:46] <AMSmith42> All the time, yes.
[11:46] <mralphab1t> heh
[11:48] <AMSmith42> "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main [etc]  403 Forbidden [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] "
[11:49] <AMSmith42> The "etc" is the package. It has it for all of them.
[11:49] <xenalise> Hmm
[11:50] <AMSmith42> Indeed.
[11:51] <mralphabet> have you changed anything in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:51] <AMSmith42> I just installed ubuntu-server and this was the first thing I tried to do. I also got an error during install regarding not being able to fetch some packages.
[11:51] <AMSmith42> And that I should "investigate this soon" or some-such.
[11:52] <AMSmith42> I have not edited sources.list
[11:52] <mralphabet> did you do a sudo apt-get update? or sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:52] <mralphabet> or is this from aptitude
[11:52] <AMSmith42> This is an apt-get and update does the same thing.
[11:53] <AMSmith42> I don't have any trouble from Kubuntu desktop doing the same sort of thing.
[11:54] <AMSmith42> I can opent the console and sudo apt-get all day long.
[11:54] <mralphabet> and I don't have any trouble from an ubuntu server doing the same thing . . . I just did it no more then 5 mins ago
[11:54] <mralphabet> that's an odd one
[11:54] <AMSmith42> Huh.
[11:54] <AMSmith42> Oh, well.
[11:54] <AMSmith42> For another day, I suppose.
[11:54] <AMSmith42> Thanks for your help.
[11:55] <AMSmith42> Have a good day.
[11:55] <mralphabet> sorry we couldn't be more help
[11:58] <xenalise> Oh one thing.... is your sources.list okay?
[11:58] <xenalise> Maybe (I doubt it, but better safe then sorry) something could be wrong there?


[13:21] <Sven_vB> hi :)
[13:22] <Sven_vB> i managed to fix a crash in update-manager (missing error handling in ubuntu-support-status) on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS, which is still present in the development branch, so usually i'd open a pull request but they use bzr. is there any chance i can use my git skills to submit it in an easy-to-integrate format? (easier than having to manually apply my patch file)
[14:02] <kurain> hello all
[14:03] <kurain> how to use autopilot for calling slots of qt class?
[14:04] <kurain> I have read the documentation of autopilot, but there is no docs for this topic
[14:34] <tsimpson> Sven_vB: push your branch to launchpad and propose it for merging into the source branch
[14:34] <Sven_vB> trying... i'm still waiting for the original branch to finish downloading
[14:35] <Sven_vB> at least i found a PPA for git-bzr-ng in the meantime
[14:36] <Sven_vB> should be here in about 2 hours =) maybe i should just make a traditional patch file already
[15:00] <Sven_vB> noes it ran out of disk space D:
[15:15] <mitya57> Sven_vB: I usually use `bzr branch --stacked lp:somebranch` for "big" branches.
[15:16] <mitya57> This way it takes less time to clone, but commands like diff and commit will need internet & more time.
[15:16] <Sven_vB> thanks, i'll try that later
[15:16] <mitya57> Also, "traditional patch files" are also welcome
[15:17] <kurain> join #ubuntu-autopilot