[08:46] <stevenj> elcu, 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' -- what is this for in the instructions?
[08:46] <stevenj> elcu, it does not do anything-does it?
[08:46] <elcu> stevenj: dunno, i have an ati card
[08:47] <bignose-ork> phillipc: you can choose to never get anything from the CD again
[08:47] <bignose-ork> phillipc: by commenting out the CD entry in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:47] <phillipc> bignose-ork: ah, thankye. The GUI needs to be able to do that
[08:47] <bignose-ork> phillipc: after an 'aptitude update', your available package list will not include the CD.
[08:47] <eszanthrick> stevenj, it turns on the driver.. if it is on, by default you will see an nividia logo when you boot up
[08:48] <elcu> stevenj: i was actually asking which instructions you used, because i want to upgrade *my* kernel :)
[08:48] <phillipc> bignose-ork: thanks, you're very helpful
[08:48] <bignose-ork> phillipc: the GUI doesn't really need to do that.  going from CD works fine.
[08:48] <bignose-ork> phillipc: welcome
[08:49] <stevenj> elcu, apt get 686 kernel :) thats all
[08:49] <phillipc> bignose-ork: what I mean is, it should let me disable it. It asks me to put the cd in, and if it fails, it doesn't bother hitting the net, it just fails.
[08:49] <bignose-ork> phillipc: under what circumstances does it fail to load from CD?
[08:49] <stevenj> eszanthrick, well all it does for me is this -- "Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[08:49] <stevenj> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[08:49] <stevenj> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[08:49] <stevenj> command:
[08:49] <stevenj> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum
[08:49] <stevenj> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[08:50] <stevenj> from nv to nvidia.
[08:50] <stevenj> oopps sorry
[08:50] <stevenj> is that what its suppose to say?
[08:50] <eszanthrick> stevenj, i had the same problem after turning off the nividia logo... follow the commands(eg.. md5sum ..)
[08:50] <bignose-ork> yep, it's supposed to say "oopps sorry"
[08:50] <phillipc> bignose-ork: when I don't have the cd in, and don't want to put it in.
[08:50] <bignose-ork> I'd file a bug report :-)
[08:51] <elcu> stevenj or anyone else: (1)how do you know if you should change from 386 to 686. (2)is it risky? (3)does it matter if your system is out-of-date (i.e. running Warty, and haven't upgraded all packages because i'm only on dialup).
[08:51] <bignose-ork> phillipc: the GUI is only doing what any apt interface can do
[08:51] <bignose-ork> phillipc: if you want to change the list of sources, there's apt-setup
[08:51] <eszanthrick> stevenj, I'm new to linux, so I don't know what it exactly does.. but I think the md5sum makes sure the file hasn't been modified.. so if you modify it by hand, it will change
[08:52] <bignose-ork> phillipc: 'sudo apt-setup'
[08:52] <stevenj> elcu, read this ------ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28911&highlight=686
[08:53] <stevenj>  elcu, 686 info
[08:53] <elcu> stevenj: thanks.
[08:53] <stevenj>  elcu, I have a P4 so its optimized for my processor
[08:54] <elcu> so do i.  woohoo!
[08:54] <elcu> Linux ubuntu <IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 #1 Tue Oct 12 12:41:57 BST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:54] <stevenj> elcu, just install it and grub will automatically boot with it
[08:54] <stevenj> elcu, run that again and you will see the new 686 kernel
[08:55] <stevenj> elcu, after you reboot :)
[08:55] <elcu> what about my 2nd and 3rd questions?
[08:55] <eszanthrick> elcu, for 2.. I don't think it's risky, you can still boot into the 386 kernel if you want through grub
[08:56] <stevenj> elcu, risky (nothing is safe in IMO) --- I have been using for it for a few hours and everything seemed a little faster
[08:57] <elcu> ok, how about 3?
[08:58] <eszanthrick> stevenj, when you get the nvidia driver to work, you'll probably want to read this.. the NVidia logo is rather bright and annoying.. http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#disablenvidialogo
[08:58] <stevenj> eszanthrick,  dont think its actually nes. to run enable glx -- simply modify xorg to nvidia
[08:58] <cyphase> has anyone had problems installing mod_python on ubuntu?
[08:59] <stevenj> eszanthrick, its working...I just had the question about the enable thing that does'nt do anything :)
[08:59] <cyphase> or can someone tell me what needs to be done besides just apt-getting the packages?
[09:00] <eszanthrick> oh, it works if the md5sum is updated though, through the command provided.. and disable turns it off
[09:00] <locomorto> cyphase what was the original question?
[09:01] <cyphase> locomort: has anyone had problems installing mod_python on ubuntu?
[09:01] <cyphase> locomorto*
[09:01] <cyphase> lol
[09:02] <etvous> hi
[09:03] <locomorto> hi
[09:04] <etvous> i just downoloaded the live iso file, i burned it but cannot boot on it (my bios is ok for that). to burn i used xcdroast
[09:04] <locomorto> check your bios
[09:04] <locomorto> and the boot order
[09:04] <locomorto> in most cases it is set to boot from the hd before the cd
[09:04] <etvous> yes yes the order is ok
[09:04] <locomorto> change that around
[09:04] <locomorto> hmm
[09:05] <etvous> i wonder about the .img file to put the cd bootable what about that ?
[09:05] <cyphase> etvous: are you sure you changed the boot order? because it isn't the only list of devices
[09:05] <etvous> i use my cdwriter to boot on it. is it ok ?
[09:05] <stevenj> whats the deal with the proxyscan.freenode?
[09:05] <cyphase> etvous: yes
[09:06] <cyphase> etvous: do you have more then 1 CD/DVD drive?
[09:06] <etvous> ok and about the .img file do i need that file ?
[09:06] <locomorto> put the cd into our computer NOW, and dont reboot
[09:06] <locomorto> next open up my computer go into the CD drive
[09:06] <etvous> cyphase, yes i have a dvd and a writer
[09:06] <Keizer> Sup guys
[09:07] <Keizer> I'm on PPC Hoary
[09:07] <cyphase> etvous: make sure you selected the correct drive for first boot
[09:07] <etvous> locomorto, i am on a fedora box :)
[09:07] <Keizer> I uncommented the Universe lines but I still can't use Universe
[09:07] <locomorto> ah
[09:07] <locomorto> anyway, do the equivlent of that in fedora
[09:07] <cyphase> Keizer: did you save the file?
[09:07] <Keizer> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-powerpc_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:07] <cyphase> Keizer: it's been known to happen ;)
[09:08] <locomorto> and ensure that you didnlt just cipy the .iso onto the CD
[09:08] <etvous> hmm ok cyphase. and what about the img file do i need that file to make my cd bootable or it is just need to burn the live iso file and that's all ?
[09:08] <Keizer> LOL i'm using the copy I just installed
[09:08] <etvous> locomorto, it's ok i just mounted that new cd and i have all the file hierarchy
[09:08] <cyphase> etvous: you don't need any extra files. all you need to do is burn the iso/img/whatever file onto the CD
[09:08] <Keizer> It's PPC on a G4 PowerBook
[09:09] <Keizer> I think I just forgot to do apt-get update
[09:09] <Keizer> That was it
[09:09] <etvous> ok cyphase thx a lot ... i'll try again
[09:09] <cyphase> etvous: np
[09:10] <locomorto> hmm
[09:10] <etvous> thx to you too locomorto :)
[09:10] <locomorto> try running a md5 command on the iso file you downloaded to ensure it didn'y get corrupted
[09:10] <etvous> ok c u
[09:10] <membreya> gah..my reisferfs has given up the ghost :|
[09:11] <membreya> ReiserFS: sda5: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not find reiserfs on sda5
[09:12] <shinu> hey everyone!
[09:12] <shinu> whats the command to set up my keyboard map?
[09:12] <ompaul> membreya, ReiserFS: $disk: warning: watch me loose your data faster then you can put it on the disk (okay thats not fair but it ate months of stuff on me a couple of years ago)
[09:13] <cyphase> has anyone had problems installing mod_python on ubuntu?
[09:13] <cyphase> or can someone tell me what needs to be done besides just apt-getting the packages?
[09:14] <ompaul> shinu, you can set that from within gnome-control-center - I can never find the button for it so I start it from the command line
[09:14] <membreya> ompaul: should I try reiserfsck to rebuild the superblock?
[09:14] <ompaul> membreya ya
[09:15] <ompaul> membreya ya should do that
[09:15] <shinu> ompaul: but i dont want that :D trying to switch to xfce so i want to change the mapping in the xterm(or something like that :))
[09:16] <locomorto> system -> Prefrences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[09:17] <membreya> ompaul: now I'm getting Bad root block 0 :|
[09:17] <membreya> meep
[09:17] <membreya> its my 90gb partition too
[09:17] <ompaul> shinu, all wms have their own config files it is almost 8 years since I used xfce so no use to you there
[09:19] <ompaul> membreya, ooch
[09:19] <ompaul> membreya, gime a min with a book or two and lets see if I have anything that might be useful for that
[09:21] <imsdle> i can't seem to get my internet sharing working on my unbuntu box.. im using dial up and want to access the internet through the ubuntu box (or did i just say that)
[09:22] <locomorto> what internt provider imsdle?
[09:23] <colombus> bonjour
[09:23] <ompaul> colombus, good morning to you
[09:23] <shinu> :)
[09:24] <locomorto> evi;
[09:24] <locomorto> evil*
[09:24] <etvous> re
[09:24] <colombus> hello
[09:24] <cyphase> can someone tell me what apache directives i need to add to have mod_python process scripts?
[09:24] <colombus> j'ai un probleme avec totem
[09:25] <etvous> i am now on my new ubuntu live cd but cannot become root ... howto do that
[09:25] <locomorto> sudo
[09:25] <GammaRay> close
[09:25] <ompaul> membreya, if you offer the following to the command line what do you get back? fsck -y /dev/sda1 ?
[09:25] <locomorto> actually
[09:25] <GammaRay> sudo su
[09:25] <locomorto> man sudo ;)
[09:25] <etvous> ok thx all :)
[09:25] <locomorto> use sudo
[09:25] <locomorto> its better once you get used to it
[09:25] <GammaRay> locomorto: oh the horror
[09:26] <locomorto> not horror: magic
[09:26] <ompaul> membreya, the fsck command should have some brains to figure out what it is looking at
[09:26] <locomorto> its like spaital nautilus
[09:26] <GammaRay> if man sudo is anything like the typical man sudo....
[09:26] <membreya> ompaul: #flood
[09:26] <GammaRay> etvous won't be seen for days
[09:26] <imsdle> in new zealand
[09:27] <etvous> i think i am not the 'etvous' you know
[09:27] <imsdle> locomorto ... my internet provider is in new zealand..
[09:27] <locomorto> and is called?
[09:27] <imsdle> slingshot
[09:27] <GammaRay> etvous: I know of one?
[09:28] <shinu> how can i put an account in the root group?
[09:29] <etvous> GammaRay, sorry my english is poor 'i know of one ???'
[09:29] <locomorto> I had a similar problem with Debian.  The solution I tried that seemed to
[09:29] <locomorto> work was I had to remove 'auth' from /etc/ppp/options
[09:29] <locomorto> Maybe it is appropriate for you too.
[09:29] <locomorto> foudnt hat on the internet
[09:29] <locomorto> found*
[09:29] <GammaRay> etvous: I don't know of any other etvous is what I tried to say
[09:30] <locomorto> if that fails, you could TRY to call your isp
[09:30] <membreya> ompaul: should I boot to liveCD and do a fsck on the whole drive? my rootFS is reiserFS as well and no problems
[09:30] <locomorto> it might not work however
[09:30] <colombus> i have a problem with totem
[09:30] <locomorto> apt-get install totem-xine
[09:30] <locomorto> then come back
[09:30] <ompaul> membreya, that is a good idea - have you got a spare disk like sdb hanging around?
[09:30] <colombus> no with totem itself
[09:30] <GammaRay> I knew someone who called my isp... was sucked through the tiny holes on the phone
[09:30] <locomorto> i know
[09:31] <locomorto> do that anyway
[09:31] <membreya> ompaul: only a network drive..most of my data, including my backup, was on my 90gb partition
[09:31] <shinu> whats the equivalent in ubuntu of fedora's system-config-users?
[09:31] <ompaul> membreya, arrrrrr
[09:31] <colombus> no doesn't work
[09:31] <locomorto> ok what is your problem
[09:31] <membreya> ompaul: it's no biggy..most of the partition was music vids (43gb)
[09:32] <membreya> oh shiiiiiiiiiiit...my photos!
[09:32] <ompaul> membreya, well it looks like the safest thing to do is to boot from that livecd
[09:32] <locomorto> colombus?
[09:32] <membreya> i have most of my photos backed up thankfully...and the rest I have in emails
[09:32] <colombus> it says ressourse busy or not avaible
[09:32] <ompaul> membreya, well I would try the live cd
[09:32] <torpid> can anyone tell me how to use wget to download every file linked to by url's in a page?
[09:33] <locomorto> can you try opening it from the terminal?
[09:33] <locomorto> ie
[09:33] <torpid> i've read the man page but i can't see any way to do that.
[09:33] <locomorto> totem
[09:33] <colombus> the same with the terminel
[09:33] <GammaRay> torpid: tried -r ?
[09:33] <ompaul> membreya, and then move data around until you can kill the partition and start again
[09:33] <locomorto> what does it say in the terminal tho
[09:33] <membreya> lol
[09:33] <membreya> thanks ompaul :P
[09:33] <torpid> GammaRay that works for a directory listin.
[09:33] <Kartagis> hello
[09:33] <locomorto> dies it have a error message in it?
[09:33] <membreya> when I tried to mount it in the livecd it said it was a swapFS which is bollocks
[09:33] <colombus> same thing it open a dialog box with the same msg
[09:34] <Kartagis> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:34] <Kartagis>   gstreamer0.8-mad: Depends: libid3tag0 (>= 0.15.0b) but it is not installable
[09:34] <Kartagis>                     Depends: libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not installable <--- why does this happen?
[09:34] <locomorto> do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[09:34] <GammaRay> torpid: it also follow links on html
[09:34] <colombus> yes
[09:34] <mebaran151> my xpdf segfaults on AMD64
[09:34] <locomorto> also marrialt can help Kartigis
[09:34] <mebaran151> and compiling from source fails too
[09:34] <locomorto> Kartagis*
[09:34] <membreya> ompaul: I'm starting to think it has something to do with the latest Breezy updates :|
[09:35] <Mestapheles> guys will there ever be a ubuntu-freeBSD?
[09:35] <locomorto> memarn151: try acrobat reader 7
[09:35] <locomorto> no
[09:35] <mebaran151> AMD64
[09:35] <locomorto> BSD != Linux
[09:35] <Mestapheles> or ubuntu-hurd?
[09:35] <mebaran151> locomorto, I can't use adobe yet
[09:35] <torpid> GammaRay it doesn't do anything.
[09:35] <mebaran151> they dont port to me
[09:35] <Kartagis> locomorto: let me see
[09:35] <colombus> there is no msg in the termeinal for totem
[09:35] <torpid> it just downloads the index.html
[09:35] <mebaran151> I doubt that it is statically compiled
[09:35] <ompaul> membreya, if you run a dev system you can get burned
[09:35] <Kartagis> locomorto: both universe and multiverse?
[09:35] <locomorto> yes
[09:36] <ompaul> membreya, at least once every development cycle
[09:36] <membreya> it's not dev..it's just arm and fuzzy daily updates :P
[09:36] <locomorto> mebaran151: why not?
[09:37] <GammaRay> torpid: well wget -r http://fog.ccsf.edu/~gboyd/ certainly does for me
[09:37] <Remenic> what's that, pr0n?
[09:37] <Kartagis> deb http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[09:37] <Kartagis> deb-src http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse <--- locomorto, like this?
[09:38] <mebaran151> locomorto, I cant because it Adobe 7 is i386
[09:38] <mebaran151> I am on AMD64 64 bit native
[09:38] <GammaRay> Remenic: yep.. he just got tenure and he's posting porn already
[09:38] <locomorto> yes
[09:38] <mebaran151> it wont install
[09:38] <colombus> totem bugs since i install fglrx
[09:38] <torpid> it gets all the files in that directory, or all of the files linked to from index?
[09:39] <mebaran151> my xmms also silently fails
[09:39] <mebaran151> no error in console
[09:39] <locomorto> rythem box isn;t that bad actually
[09:39] <locomorto> once you get it too play mp3's
[09:39] <locomorto> mp3s*
[09:39] <Kartagis> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:39] <Kartagis>   gstreamer0.8-mad: Depends: libid3tag0 (>= 0.15.0b) but it is not installable
[09:39] <Kartagis>                     Depends: libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not installable <--- locomorto, still same
[09:40] <mebaran151> xmms starts
[09:40] <mebaran151> has a little console flicker
[09:40] <torpid> GammaRay do you live in SF?
[09:40] <Bazzi> Kartagis add universe aswell
[09:40] <colombus> totem doesn't work
[09:40] <Kartagis> Bazzi: it's there too
[09:40] <GammaRay> torpid: yes
[09:40] <Bazzi> and you apt-get update -d?
[09:41] <Kartagis> oh, I didn't use -d switch
[09:41] <torpid> i work at cpmc davies
[09:41] <edulix> hi !
[09:41] <torpid> at castro and duboce
[09:41] <Bazzi> not with -d switch
[09:41] <Bazzi> :P
[09:42] <edulix> I have a dell inspiron 4150 laptop and want to control fans as my computer gets usually overheated, for example with i8k
[09:42] <edulix> how to activate support of i8k here ?
[09:42] <Kartagis> I used only apt-get update
[09:42] <colombus> wht does it mean resourse busy or inavaible
[09:43] <cyphase> has anyone here gotten mod_python to work?
[09:44] <colombus> ressource busy or not avaible for totem ??
[09:46] <colombus> ressource busy or not avaible for totem what does it mean?
[09:46] <Kartagis> Bazzi: http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=38184
[09:47] <Bazzi> thats not your whole sources.list is it?
[09:47] <Kartagis> Bazzi: these are just the uncommented ones
[09:47] <torpid> this is bizarre GammaRay .  it works for me for your site, but not for mine.  yet if i specificy one of the links on this page by name, it works.
[09:48] <Bazzi> Kartagis the main restricted stuff should be in there too
[09:48] <colombus> ressource busy or not avaible for totem what does it mean?
[09:48] <Kartagis> okay, going back to it
[09:49] <Kartagis> I am apt-get update'ing now
[09:49] <geneo93> anyone had any luck with gnomeradio
[09:49] <Kartagis> yes!
[09:49] <colombus> ressource busy or not avaible for totem what does it mean?
[09:51] <mebaran151> so xpdf segfaults on AMD64
[09:51] <mebaran151> any pkg maintainer out there who wants to fix it
[09:51] <mebaran151> it is supported in regular verse
[09:51] <locomorto> #ubuntu-devel
[09:52] <Kartagis> Bazzi: thank you so much man :)
[09:52] <colombus> ressource busy or not avaible for totem what does it mean?
[09:53] <Bazzi> pas de probleme
[09:55] <IIIEars> e
[09:55] <IIIEars> huh
[09:56] <looksaus> upgrade from warty to hoary problem
[09:56] <looksaus> x-window-system-core is stuck at xfree-4.3
[09:56] <looksaus> all the rest is dist-upgraded
[09:57] <looksaus> but this one is being kept back
[09:57] <looksaus> for whatever reason
[09:57] <colombus> do someone read me?
[09:57] <geneo93> reboot and run it again
[09:57] <membreya> ompaul: I'm in the LiveCD now, doing a  sudo reiserfsck --rebuild-tree /dev/sda5
[09:58] <looksaus> geneo93, was that a suggestion to me?
[09:58] <looksaus> because that obviously doesn't solve anything
[09:58] <geneo93> apt-get -f install
[09:59] <geneo93> hoary uses xorg
[09:59] <imsdle> when i share my interent connection on ubuntu (dialup internet) do i have to setup the proxy ip address on my other xp boxes? if so what is the port i use?
[09:59] <ompaul> membreya, and it is working?
[09:59] <ztonzy> if I want to remove xpdf it asks me to also remove ubuntu-desktop...how safe is this ?
[09:59] <membreya> ompaul: init_source_bitmap: Bitmap 0 (of 32768 bits) is wrong - mark all blocks [0 - 32768]  as used
[09:59] <membreya> Skipping 8906 blocks (super block, journal, bitmaps) 12813643 blocks will be read
[10:00] <ztonzy> I want to use Acrobat Reader 7 instead
[10:00] <membreya> ztonzy, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package..so yes
[10:00] <membreya> ewwww
[10:00] <membreya> ompaul: it's 20% through
[10:00] <ztonzy> membreya, safe to remove ?  meta? what does it consist of ?
[10:00] <membreya> *fingers crossed*
[10:00] <ompaul> membreya, go for a tea or coffee and then come back
[10:00] <ompaul> :-)
[10:01] <Almindor> hello
[10:01] <ompaul> ztonzy, it is the graphical enviornment that you use - so you choose
[10:01] <Almindor> at boot I get "VFS: cannot find an Ext3 filesystem on /dev/hda2(my prim. "/" as reiserFS)
[10:01] <Almindor> is it a problem?
[10:01] <Almindor> (it boots ok)
[10:01] <ztonzy> ompaul, well...Ubuntu wants me to use xpdf AND Ubuntu, and if not I am screwed :P ?
[10:01] <torpid> is getting a socket 478 bad at this point?
[10:05] <matt1987> help i cant burn a dvd
[10:05] <matt1987> i need to burn a dvd.iso can anyone help
[10:05] <matt1987> please
[10:06] <rattboi> are you burning from Ubuntu or making an Ubuntu DVD?
[10:06] <elmaya> use gnome baker
[10:06] <ztonzy> matt1987, you got a dvd burner ;) ?
[10:06] <ztonzy> graveman seems nice too
[10:06] <rattboi> oh, I don't think there is an Ubuntu DVD, is there?
[10:06] <elmaya> nop
[10:07] <rattboi> I use K3B most of the time
[10:07] <rattboi> even though it looks a bit out of place
[10:07] <ztonzy> rattboi, I installed graveman and it looks to fit right into Gnome :)
[10:07] <ztonzy> rattboi, havent used it yet though
[10:08] <imsdle> does anyone kow how to share the dialup connection on ubuntu
[10:08] <rattboi> yeah, I know gbaker and graveman are GTK-based, so they look better, but the feature set isn't up to par yet, I think
[10:09] <ztonzy> rattboi, setup how? how do you mean?
[10:09] <matt1987> i got an ubuntu dvd .iso
[10:09] <matt1987> 2.6 gb
[10:09] <matt1987> oops
[10:09] <matt1987> 2.8
[10:10] <ircbot_> it possible to go from an ubuntu install to a kubuntu install... like add kubuntu deskop, remove gnome?
[10:11] <Choubaka> hmm
[10:11] <Choubaka> I guess
[10:11] <membreya> ircbot_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ..and see how you like it :)
[10:11] <Bazzi> ircbot_ yes, install kubuntu-desktop and remove ubuntu-desktop should do the trick
[10:11] <Choubaka> Bazzi: no it doesn't
[10:11] <rattboi> ztonzy, I was saying that I don't think it has all the features
[10:11] <Kartagis> hmm, I can see that auido and video are not being synchronized. is there something to do about this?
[10:11] <Bazzi> ok then ti doesnt ;(
[10:12] <Choubaka> Bazzi: none of the ubuntu-desktop packages depend on ubuntu-desktop
[10:12] <xerxes1358> I want to edit my menu's. So I open a file browser and typed" applications:///" but I cant get in. it tells me that applications:/// is not  a valid location. What do I wrong ?
[10:12] <Choubaka> nothing :)
[10:12] <ircbot_> hmm
[10:12] <Choubaka> You can't edit the menus that way anymore
[10:12] <ircbot_> that's not a bad idea
[10:12] <torpid> if you are using ddr 400 ram, is it better to have 2 x 512 or 1x1024?
[10:12] <ztonzy> rattboi, maybe not...but then I dont burn mp3 and lot of other mediafiles...even though it seems to have audio capabilities , but you can have K3b as backup tool also
[10:12] <cyphase> what's your guys opinion about Python and PHP's place in web page scripting?
[10:13] <Choubaka> ircbot_: also, see "apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop" to see what is installed with that package
[10:13] <ircbot_> Choubaka: i don't think i will... but i was just kinda curious if i could
[10:14] <ircbot_> because i finally got everything working right
[10:14] <Choubaka> of course it's possible.
[10:14] <Kartagis> Bazzi: hmm, I can see that auido and video are not being synchronized. is there something to do about this?
[10:14] <ircbot_> possible without breaking everything heh
[10:14] <Bazzi> dunno, didnt use multimedia in ubuntu myself yet
[10:15] <ircbot_> cyphase: what an off the wall question
[10:15] <Choubaka> Kartagis: Don't use crappy software mixing such as ESD
[10:15] <cyphase> lol
[10:15] <ircbot_> Choubaka: i use esd
[10:16] <ircbot_> Choubaka: and it works great
[10:16] <ircbot_> Choubaka: especially since i can't really put another sound card in a laptop
[10:16] <Choubaka> ircbot_: but it causes latencies.
[10:16] <matt1987> is there anyway i can write to my windows partiton it says i dont have permissions
[10:16] <Choubaka> so it's not suitable for video
[10:16] <Choubaka> matt1987: what filesystem is the partition?
[10:17] <matt1987> ntfs
[10:17] <Choubaka> forget it
[10:17] <ircbot_> yeah that's true
[10:17] <ircbot_> i do on occasion have problems with it and dvds
[10:17] <Choubaka> write support for NTFS is still crappy.
[10:17] <matt1987> i need to get htis dvd iso to my windows partitoon to burn it
[10:17] <matt1987> this*
[10:18] <Choubaka> though safe, but near useless.
[10:18] <ircbot_> then umm download it in windows matt1987
[10:18] <Kartagis> Choubaka: how do I change that
[10:18] <ircbot_> matt1987: why can't you burn it from whatever you are in now?
[10:18] <Choubaka> matt1987: put it on a fat32 partition
[10:18] <matt1987> what another 2.8 gb
[10:18] <matt1987> it comes up woth errors
[10:18] <Choubaka> or you can burn it using your current OS :P
[10:19] <matt1987> mine is ubuntu
[10:19] <ircbot_> ubuntu burns fine
[10:19] <matt1987> but gnome baker is shit it doesnt work
[10:19] <ircbot_> you watch your tongue
[10:19] <ircbot_> works fine
[10:19] <matt1987> sorry
[10:19] <ircbot_> i didn't mean about the cussing... no need to apologize to me... heh.
[10:19] <matt1987> so how can i put files on to a dvd
[10:19] <Choubaka> matt1987: "it doesn't work" is impossible to fix :P
[10:20] <ircbot_> matt1987: does it recognize your dvd burner?
[10:20] <matt1987> yeah
[10:20] <Kartagis> Choubaka: can I just change the device using Mixer?
[10:20] <matt1987> well itsees the burner
[10:20] <matt1987> and recognizes i have a blank media dvd-r
[10:21] <ircbot_> did you try "burn cd image" option under actions?
[10:22] <ircbot_> i've never had a problem burning ISO's under nix... hence my large collection of distros
[10:22] <BotServer> //quit $me == asshat
[10:23] <Choubaka> Kartagis: you'll also need to disable esd
[10:23] <ircbot_> i haven't been able to get sounds to play with alsa even after i killall esd
[10:23] <ircbot_> but i've had pretty good luck in not getting latency
[10:23] <ircbot_> most of the time
[10:24] <xerxes1358> Guys how do I edit my Gnome Menu ?
[10:24] <xerxes1358> I want to add a new app to it
[10:27] <matt1987> one more problem
[10:27] <BugBearHome> A few months ago someone gave me a sote which outlined how to use Ubuntu and ndiswrapper plus heaps of other things, i have googled but can't find it, does anyone know what it is?
[10:27] <matt1987> in gnome baker the file dosnt come up and in the file browser it disserpears so i have to close it and start it again to see it
[10:29] <ircbot_> matt1987: did you go to burn cd image?  and it only looks for iso's in that case
[10:29] <matt1987> its not a cd
[10:29] <matt1987> its an dvd
[10:29] <ircbot_> well unless there is a burn dvd image i'm thinking it doesn't matter
[10:30] <torpid> is socket 939 significantly better than socket 478?
[10:31] <ircbot_> yes
[10:31] <raywayray> moin
[10:31] <torpid> oh, but that's an amd thing only right?
[10:34] <torpid> why is this proc over 800$?
[10:34] <torpid> http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103496
[10:34] <Bazzi> because its the best
[10:35] <torpid> lol
[10:35] <membreya> i would say it's only 400mhz above my amd64..but it's an FX :P
[10:38] <torpid> i know i'm an idiot, but what's ata/sata compared to ide?  if this box is ata it won't support my ide drives in my current system right?
[10:39] <torpid> i'm trying to prevent having to buy anything extra if i can help it.
[10:42] <eszanthrick> sata is serial ata and uses a different cable. ata uses ide cables
[10:43] <membreya> technically it's SATA vs PATA :P
[10:44] <membreya> torpid: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BRZ/is_11_22/ai_98977132
[10:44] <jfk303> Hey can I apt-get for the java sdk?
[10:44] <membreya> jfk303: you can't, go to www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:45] <mburns> you can*, go to ubuntuguide.ord
[10:45] <mburns> it is quite easy
[10:45] <membreya> :|
[10:45] <mburns> :)
[10:45] <cikilin> hello
[10:46] <cikilin> haw can i cahnge port in bittorrent?
[10:46] <cyphase> i'm currently working on a podcatcher, and am accepting requests for features. whats everyones favorite feature for a podcatcher?
[10:46] <jfk303> membreya, is their any particular bit your pointing e at, can't see anything about the java sdk
[10:47] <torpid> if any of you kind folks could look at this system: http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=0-N82E16856101457
[10:47] <torpid> i have purchased it with an amd 64 939 proc and some ddr400 ram.
[10:47] <Kartagis> Choubaka: still no luck, how can I go to where I mess with ESD and such?
[10:47] <torpid> i have hard ide hard drives, input devices, and monitor.
[10:47] <torpid> oh!  a dvdr
[10:49] <membreya> mburns: my apologies, it appears they have updated that recently..like within the past 2 weeks :|
[10:50] <membreya> jfk303: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[10:50] <membreya> I'm not running those repo's as I'm on Breezy, hang on
[10:51] <mburns> You're on Breez?!
[10:52] <membreya> ya
[10:52] <jfk303> membreya, will this install the java software development kit
[10:52] <membreya> jfk303: jre..hang on
[10:52] <jfk303> so i can run jdeveloper
[10:52] <markuman> can i use a ubuntu live cd for install?
[10:53] <BugBearHome> markuman: nope
[10:53] <BugBearHome> not to my knowledge anyway
[10:53] <Jimmothy> you can use the install cd though
[10:53] <mburns> how are you on breezy, I thought that was the October release that isn't even in beta yet?
[10:53] <Jimmothy> i hear good things of that one
[10:53] <membreya> mburns: it's out ..it's just a dev release :)
[10:54] <shinu_> how can i make shell aliases?
[10:54] <membreya> bewarned.. I fried my reiserfs tonight....recovered it thankfully
[10:54] <BugBearHome> hmmmm, i wonder how long this installing packages takes after installing ubuntu
[10:54] <membreya> shinu_: nano .bashrc
[10:54] <mburns> I don't even know what features I shoudl be excited for yet, let alone ready to install it on a box:)
[10:54] <shinu_> says instead of xterm i want it to run xterm+someoptions
[10:54] <shinu_> membreya: i could as well use vi right?
[10:55] <Jimmothy> like xterm -fg white -bg black etc.?
[10:55] <membreya> shinu_: whatever editor you like
[10:55] <shinu_> cool
[10:55] <Swynndla> I set up ssh on my pc (via apt-get) but I can't ssh to my other two pc's (other two aren't ubuntu) but the other two can ssh to each other ok ... what am I doing wrong?
[10:56] <mburns> seems like you don't have an ssh client on your ubuntu box?
[10:56] <shinu_> membreya: in what for should i put the alias? xterm="xterm -options etc"?
[10:56] <shinu_> membreya: is there a manpage for that?
[10:56] <membreya> jfk303: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java15 go here
[10:57] <Swynndla> mburns, I did apt-get install ssh .. is that a client too?
[10:57] <cyphase> I'm currently working on a podcatcher, and I'm accepting requests for features. What features have you always wanted in a podcatcher?
[10:57] <Swynndla> ... oh and I can't ssh from the remote machines back to this one either
[10:58] <drcodedd2> Hi all
[10:58] <drcodedd2> whats up
[10:59] <mburns> seems like sshd didn't install then. If you can't ssh from that box out, and you can ssh into that box from another. SSH on the Ubuntu box is not functioning
[10:59] <Swynndla> mburns, oh it's working now (but really slow to connect) ...
[10:59] <drcodedd2> How I can setup NIC in console mode
[10:59] <Jimmothy> ubuntu uses grub, right? can i edit how long i have to select OS'?
[10:59] <drcodedd2> Is there some nice gui?
[10:59] <Swynndla> hmmm
[10:59] <membreya> Swynndla: apt-get install openssh-server
[11:00] <drcodedd2> I install Ubntu server
[11:00] <membreya> Jimmothy: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:00] <drcodedd2> I want to change one of the NIC card
[11:00] <Swynndla> ahh ok I'll try it thx
[11:00] <shinu_> membreya: should it work straight away?
[11:00] <mburns> drcodedd2: there is a gui, from the gnome menu, it should be under the System, administration(?) menu
[11:00] <drcodedd2> I dont have gui
[11:01] <drcodedd2> I am at console
[11:01] <Jimmothy> nano a terminal text editor?
[11:01] <membreya> shinu_: I believe once you've created an alias you need to load a new terminal
[11:01] <membreya> Jimmothy: that's the one :P
[11:01] <Jimmothy> can't i use gedit?
[11:01] <membreya> Jimmothy: if you insist
[11:01] <shinu_> membreya: but a terminal IS what i want to load :D
[11:01] <shinu_> membreya: i want to change the default colours
[11:01] <Jimmothy> i much prefer gedit since i can never rememeber the commands for vi etc
[11:01] <membreya> shinu_: I only know how to play around with console :)
[11:02] <membreya> Jimmothy: I suggest you learn a terminal editor in case your gui dies :P
[11:02] <membreya> nano is the easiest
[11:02] <Jimmothy> ok
[11:02] <shinu_> membreya: er..console is what i meant ... i think :D
[11:02] <shinu_> membreya: um...doesnt matter :P
[11:02] <membreya> shinu_: no no ...Konsole..as in KDE
[11:02] <xerxes1358> what does ""multiverse"" means in Ubuntu?
[11:02] <shinu_> membreya: oh... ok then
[11:02] <membreya> xerxes1358: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[11:03] <drcodedd2> is there NIC config in console mode (I install server)
[11:03] <mburns> xerxes1358: should work but is untested/unsupported
[11:03] <Seveas> xerxes1358, it means non-free components
[11:03] <mburns> drcodedd2: ifconfig should do everything you want
[11:03] <membreya> drcodedd2: ifconfig :)
[11:03] <xerxes1358> ah ok thanks guys
[11:03] <drcodedd2> but dose it save the setting
[11:03] <Goonie> has anyone solved this problem? .....
[11:03] <Goonie> ipw2200: Fatal error
[11:03] <Goonie> ipw2200: Start IPW Error Log Dump:
[11:03] <Goonie> ipw2200: Status: 0x00000100, Config: 00000142
[11:03] <Goonie> ipw2200: Start IPW Event Log Dump:
[11:03] <drcodedd2> I want to put static IP to my nic
[11:03] <Seveas> drcodedd2, edit /etc/network/interfaces for that
[11:03] <drcodedd2> k
[11:04] <drcodedd2> thanx
[11:04] <Seveas> drcodedd2, see man 5 interfaces for details
[11:04] <membreya> drcodedd2: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[11:04] <membreya> Seveas: GRRRR
[11:04] <membreya> :P
[11:04] <drcodedd2> sorry thanx
[11:04] <drcodedd2> 1 more thing
[11:04] <drcodedd2> I have old P333 computer
[11:04] <drcodedd2> My PowerSupply semes that it dosnt work
[11:05] <membreya> Seveas: quick question, if my interfaces has an address listed for my eth0..should I take out the auto eth0 comment?
[11:05] <drcodedd2> any one know if I take out all wire of PowerSupply it still need to work?
[11:05] <drcodedd2> I mean the Fan need to work?
[11:05] <mburns> ifconfig eth0 inet <ipaddress> netmask <netmask>
[11:05] <Seveas> membreya, no
[11:05] <drcodedd2> or I mast connect it into the Mother Board?
[11:05] <membreya> ok :)
[11:05] <Seveas> membreya, auto means: bring up at boot
[11:05] <membreya> Seveas: running breezy and it has an odd message for mapping with eth0..but happens to everyone
[11:05] <membreya> :)
[11:06] <shinu_> anyone can help me to set "xterm -bg black -fg green" as my default xterm?
[11:07] <mburns> nano .bashrc
[11:08] <Jimmothy> you don't want green! it's really really bright green
[11:08] <Seveas> shinu_, update-alternatives --set x-terminal-emulator
[11:09] <Kartagis> how can I edit gnome menus?
[11:09] <Seveas> Kartagis, in hoary there is no standard way yet. some people have written editors, search the forum/wiki for them
[11:09] <revelater> how do i burna bin/cue file (as opposed to iso)
[11:09] <shinu_> Jimmothy: its better than blue... unfortunately
[11:10] <shinu_> Seveas: wait ill try that
[11:10] <Kartagis> okay thanks
[11:10] <Valentin-> hey
[11:10] <revelater> how do i burna bin/cue file (as opposed to iso)?
[11:10] <Swynndla> shinu ... or you could set an alias for it?
[11:10] <drcodedd2> I just building now new server p233 with 64mb memory, Aapche , php
[11:10] <Valentin-> is it possible to install the ubuntu dekstop without any other programs, like openoffice and the like
[11:10] <Seveas> Swynndla, that'll only work if started from another terminal
[11:11] <revelater> how do i burn a bin/cue file (as opposed to iso)?
[11:11] <revelater> ??
[11:11] <Seveas> Valentin-, not really, you can uninstall them afterwards though
[11:11] <membreya> revelater: use k3b
[11:11] <shinu_> Swynndla: but it seems that the alias only work if i start things up in a terminal
[11:11] <Seveas> Valentin-, another option is to install a server system and then gnome
[11:11] <revelater> membreya, i need to install kde to use k3b
[11:11] <sandyeggoboy> my LCD monitor will not display 1024x768 res ... only 800x600 How to change?
[11:11] <Swynndla> ahhhhhhhhh ic
[11:11] <revelater> membreya, will graveman work?
[11:12] <shinu_> :)
[11:12] <Valentin-> Seveas, that was what I was thinking of, is there an apt-get command to install the whole gnome desktop server?
[11:12] <locomorto> sandyeggoboy read the forums
[11:12] <Valentin-> Seveas in a kind of package
[11:12] <cikilin> what it means if in synaptic the package has a star?
[11:12] <Seveas> apt-get install gnome (i guess)
[11:12] <membreya> revelater: no you don't, just install kde-libs
[11:12] <Swynndla> ok how about putting 'xterm -bg black -fg green' as an icon?
[11:12] <Jimmothy> is it true ubuntu is heavily based on debian? like debian but with a friendlier installer and nicer out-of-the-box so to speak?
[11:13] <Seveas> Jimmothy, sort of
[11:13] <revelater> membreya, synaptic requires taht i donload all of kde
[11:13] <Seveas> Jimmothy, it is synced with sid every 6 months and then made better :)
[11:13] <ivoks> i love my ubuntu :)
[11:13] <revelater> membreya, but i have graveman, will it work?
[11:13] <cikilin> can somebody tell me what it means if in synaptic the package has a star?
[11:14] <Valentin-> Seveas: E: Package Gnome has no installation candidate
[11:14] <membreya> revelater: no idea.
[11:14] <Jimmothy> cikilin: right click the package, there's a little key that pops up, if i remember right
[11:14] <ivoks> cikilin read help
[11:14] <cikilin> k
[11:15] <ivoks> hm... how to downgrade packages? :)
[11:15] <sandyeggoboy> locomorto, can you hel ppoint me in the right direction? Thanks!
[11:15] <Seveas> Valentin-, install gnome-panel, it will drag in a lot of the dependencies
[11:15] <revelater> does anyone know if graveman will burn a bin/cue??
[11:16] <Jimmothy> revelater: check their site, read the man page, check the docs
[11:19] <spiral> hi
[11:19] <Jimmothy> hi
[11:19] <LAX2PDXandback> Is anyone here?
[11:19] <kev0r> no we are all idle
[11:19] <membreya> lol
[11:19] <LAX2PDXandback> LOL
[11:20] <LAX2PDXandback> how do I had an application to the gnome applications menu
[11:20] <LAX2PDXandback> so I don't have to command it to open all of the time
[11:20] <Valentin-> Seveas do you know a good docu for gnome?
[11:21] <Valentin-> how to install etc.
[11:22] <BugBearHome> This is what i get when i modprobe ndiswrapper FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[11:22] <revelater> how do i download a cvs?
[11:22] <BugBearHome> any ideas?
[11:22] <BugBearHome> do i need to chmod something?
[11:23] <kaouete> BugBearHome: did you sudo this command ?
[11:23] <BugBearHome> i did it from root
[11:25] <revelater> how do i download a cvs?
[11:25] <ivoks> BugBearHome sudo?
[11:25] <BugBearHome> nope
[11:26] <ivoks> no idea
[11:26] <BugBearHome> just did it from sudom to no avail
[11:29] <membreya> BugBearHome: dmesg giving you anything?
[11:29] <IIIEars> there is a good explaination of how to use cvs  (mozilla cvs http://mozilla.org)
[11:29] <IIIEars> spiral - hw do i mask my ip address here?
[11:30] <BugBearHome> membreya: heaps but i don't understand it
[11:30] <spiral> IIIEars: ?
[11:30] <BugBearHome> membreya: ndiswrapper version 1.0rc2 loaded (preempt=yes,smp=no)
[11:30] <BugBearHome> ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:1494): loadndiswrapper failed (1536); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[11:30] <IIIEars> how do i hide my ip address from IRc users?
[11:30] <Jimmothy> it is hidden
[11:30] <Jimmothy> IIIEars<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[11:31] <IIIEars> lol
[11:31] <IIIEars> cool
[11:31] <Jimmothy> server does it for you
[11:32] <BugBearHome> Another question, in GRUB how do i change the default OS?
[11:33] <IIIEars> BugBear - i believe (tho i am very new to this) you can press "e" at boot up and enter edit mode
[11:33] <XplOzIon> hi
[11:33] <BugBearHome> IIIEars: thanks i will try it
[11:33] <IIIEars> just as you see the grub menu
[11:44] <Swynndla> both ssh connections and browsing nfs shares are really slow
[11:45] <smouche> BugBearHome and XplOzIon - I think that only changes the options for that boot --
[11:45] <smouche> if you want to change the defaults for every boot
[11:45] <smouche> you need to edit   /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:49] <IIIEars> Good to know - THANKS
[11:52] <smouche> IIIEars, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[11:52] <smouche> and http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[11:52] <smouche> for details
[11:53] <xvlun> hi
[11:53] <smouche> er, I mean BugBearHome !
[11:55] <xvlun> there has benn an announcement on heise.de last week that dell is planning to ship a copy of a modified ubuntu with their laptops... any idea if this is already available and where? a friend of mine bought his dell already and is very much looking forward to this distribution...
[11:55] <Choubaka> Modified Ubuntu? I wonder in what ways modified.
[11:56] <smouche> maybe they just mean configured to work out of the box with all the hardware in that laptop.
[11:56] <bob2> xvlun: url?
[11:56] <xvlun> smouche, exactly
[11:56] <xvlun> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/58740 german
[11:57] <bob2> that article doesn't mention dell at all
[11:58] <raveli_> just wanna say that, in my personal opinion, Ubuntu pretty much rocks. It seems one of the most well-organized distributions I've ever tried. Most of the things just seem to work (partly thanks to great howtos and faqs people have contributed). so thank to everyone involved :-)
[11:58] <bob2> unless "Dell" is spelt differently in german
[11:58] <bob2> xvlun: did you mean HP?
[11:58] <warcraft3> Hi, I use ubuntu at my desktop, and now want to get my notebook runing with ubuntu... BUT.. when i start boot from ubuntu cd.. and the install proces is going into grafical i guess.. Screen turns black.... Any ideas...
[11:58] <xvlun> ^^ my fault
[11:58] <max> Hi all !
[11:58] <xvlun> sorry
[11:58] <bob2> xvlun: you do mean HP?
[11:58] <xvlun> yes
[11:59] <warcraft3> I have tried t vga=771 with no luck
[11:59] <xvlun> i mixied up the names of dell and hp
[11:59] <warcraft3> "Could not find kernel image: vga=771"
[11:59] <Choubaka> :|
[12:00] <bob2> warcraft3: yes, you would need to give the name in front of any options
[12:00] <Choubaka> warcraft3: your definition is all wrong
[12:00] <membreya> warcraft3: have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[12:00] <membreya> oh wait
[12:00] <membreya> nvm warcraft3 :P
[12:00] <warcraft3> boot: "what to write here?"
[12:00] <smouche> all I want from manufacturers is to simply provide two partitions on the drives in the systems they sell
[12:01] <smouche> one could be installed with windows, the other left unformatted
[12:01] <bob2> warcraft3: did you read the help screens?
[12:01] <smouche> and they could throw in some install disks, various distros
[12:01] <smouche> for people to experiment with
[12:01] <warcraft3> yes... it says try vga=771
[12:01] <warcraft3> "Could not find kernel image: vga=771"
[12:01] <membreya> warcraft3: http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/grub.html
[12:01] <membreya> go there
[12:01] <membreya> it's a grub problem warcraft3 ?
[12:02] <smouche> but of course, Microsoft would pitch a fit, and try to stop it I'm sure
[12:02] <paulfox> hi folks
[12:02] <TommyKLG> how do i set java into the system PATH permenantly?
[12:02] <xvlun> bob2, did yu ever hear of this?
[12:02] <warcraft3> A grub problem? I have yet installed grub? I am trying to install ubuntu..
[12:02] <paulfox> how do i add a wireless network card in ad-hoc mode? i want to use this laptop so my OTHER laptop can connect to the internet via it's wlan
[12:03] <bob2> not easily
[12:03] <shinu> what should i do if mplayer doesnt show the image when i play as normal user but only as root?
[12:03] <shinu> (they didnt help me much on #mplayer :))
[12:03] <bob2> shinu: paste the output of 'groups' here
[12:04] <xerxes1358> guys I can login into my machine ssh from out side. Can someone help me please ?
[12:04] <paulfox> any ideas on wireless networking in ad-hoc mode, anybody?
[12:04] <shinu> bob2: what groups? ^^'
[12:04] <bob2> xvlun: do you mean "can't"
[12:05] <shinu> bob2: got it
[12:05] <bob2> paulfox: it's not simple.  how much do you know about networking?
[12:05] <warcraft3> Is there some newbee friendly way to get ubuntu running on a notebook? With out editing grub... Does the liveCD do all this..?
[12:05] <shinu> bob2: blu adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[12:05] <paulfox> bob2, only bits and pieces really
[12:05] <Goonie> I'm trying to edit my keymap in X ... which file should I edit.. I tried /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.is but that didn't do anything
[12:05] <bob2> paulfox: try asking on the user list, then
[12:05] <xvlun> bob2, ?
[12:05] <bob2> xvlun: yes
[12:05] <paulfox> bob2, sorry i missed what you just said :/
[12:06] <paulfox> i was trigger happy with ^w
[12:06] <smouche> warcraft3, not the liveCD -- you need the install CD
[12:06] <bob2> paulfox: try asking for help on the user list
[12:06] <bob2> it'd would be long and annoying to explain on irc
[12:06] <smouche> warcraft3, you probably won't need to "edit grub" it'll install itself and get you running
[12:06] <warcraft3> smouche : I manga before to get ubuntu into that notebook.. I just put the cd into drive, and boot.. maby i added a command for the screen... Why doesnt that work with the new Hoary cd?
[12:07] <paulfox> bob2, right, i'll try that thanks
[12:07] <warcraft3> smouche : Now when i boot setup, screen turns dark when going into grafical mode
[12:08] <aeho> Can someone help me to install cinelerra? I got errors in "make".
[12:08] <smouche> don't know what to tell you, warcraft3 , sorry
[12:09] <warcraft3> Sombody know the magic "boot" command to tell the boot promt in the install setup?
[12:09] <bob2> warcraft3: did you read the help text or not?
[12:09] <warcraft3> In order for the screen to not turn black
[12:09] <bob2> warcraft3: is that a "no"?
[12:10] <warcraft3> bob2: Yes, and i manga with the previouse release to get it running
[12:10] <bob2> warcraft3: then why won't you use that verion of ubuntu and upgrade?
[12:11] <smouche> what does "manga" mean in this context?
[12:11] <warcraft3> no I cant get it running.. why does not vga=771 work?  I know i last time also needed to add a comand in order for the screen not to durn black when entering grafical mode in the install setup..
[12:11] <aeho> Can someone help me to install cinelerra? I got error in make: "make[2] : *** [OpenEXR-1.2.1/i686/IlmImf/ImfZipCompressor.o]  Error 1".
[12:12] <warcraft3> When the old work, the new should work.. I just need someone to tell me what to put afther the "boot" promt ...
[12:12] <bob2> aeho: you need to talk to the openexr people
[12:13] <shinu> bob2: anything  i could do to fix it?
[12:13] <aeho> who are they?
[12:13] <aeho> installed linux yesterday, so...
[12:14] <warcraft3> boot : vga=771  (new line) "Could not find kernel image: vga=771" is this an error in the boot cd?
[12:15] <BugBearHome> Ubuntu has stuffed up my partitions so now windows won't boot, SHIT
[12:15] <bob2> warcraft3: dude
[12:15] <bob2> warcraft3: you ignored what I said
[12:15] <bob2> warcraft3: and didn't read the help
[12:15] <bob2> warcraft3: you need to provide a kernel name, then whatever options
[12:16] <shinu> bob2: sorry got disconnected... anything you could help with my mplayer?
[12:16] <warcraft3> bob2 : I just found out : ) but why didnt any on tell .. boot: linux vga=771
[12:16] <bob2> warcraft3: because they wanted you to read the documentation
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[12:18] <shinu_> bob2: sorry for the disconnects, you said anything?
[12:22] <aeho> fuck
[12:23] <aeho> I don't have that error anymore, now I got like 1000 errors
[12:23] <bob2> yes
[12:23] <bob2> you need to talk to the authors of the software
[12:23] <smouche> BugBearHome -- WinXp, right?  do you still have your disk for that?
[12:24] <smouche> if you boot from the winxp disk, enter recovery council, and the command is "fixmbr" to restore your ability to boot windows
[12:25] <smouche> but then, I'm not sure how you would go about repair the ubuntu and grub situation afterwards...
[12:25] <smouche> "recovery console"  I meant...
[12:27] <locomorto> council LOL
[12:29] <super_dude2> can someone help me with acssesing files on networks
[12:29] <super_dude2> and the passwords
[12:30] <XplOzIon> heh see this people http://<IP_ADDRESS>/redhat.jpg
[12:31] <XplOzIon> can you all see it?
[12:32] <membreya> XplOzIon: lol :P
[12:32] <bob2> trivial to fake
[12:32] <membreya> shame it's fabricated
[12:32] <membreya> but still funny :)
[12:32] <XplOzIon> heh
[12:33] <XplOzIon> original poster of that image says it isnt fake. hehe
[12:33] <XplOzIon> hmm time to set up a page!! weee
[12:34] <Choubaka> hm, I can't see the image :/
[12:34] <XplOzIon> no?
[12:34] <mjr> it doesn't seem to load
[12:34] <XplOzIon> try again all
[12:35] <XplOzIon> Choubaka, try again
[12:35] <mjr> now it does
[12:35] <Choubaka> yeah
[12:35] <XplOzIon> mjc, lol didnt add the port 80 rule on firestarter =P
[12:35] <mjr> heh
[12:35] <XplOzIon> hmm
[12:35] <shinu_> the image loads very slowly...
[12:35] <super_dude2> what? i dont get it?
[12:35] <shinu_> and btw microsoft did used to use bsd right?
[12:35] <mjr> anyway, yes, it might be fabricated, but I don't necessarily think so
[12:36] <XplOzIon> shinu_, my upstream is 128k and i just got like 200 hits so slow as hell =(
[12:36] <Tomcat_> Well, some new Microsoft product (Virtual Server? Not sure) is known to support Linux officially...
[12:36] <bob2> shinu_: they used to sell a version of unix called xenix
[12:36] <mjr> I seem to recall some earlier stuff about MS using Linux proxy boxes in front of their NT web servers somewhere
[12:36] <mjr> ah well
[12:36] <Choubaka> super_dude2: it's running RedHat :p
[12:36] <bob2> shinu_: and they did at some point use bsd tcp/ip code in windows nt
[12:36] <super_dude2> ok
[12:36] <Tomcat_> And they have always been using Akamai's Squid caches (Linux) in front of their IISs...
[12:36] <shinu_> hehe
[12:37] <ice_1963> ok
[12:37] <Tomcat_> mjr: Yeah, that was Akamai.
[12:37] <mjr> Tomcat_, righto :)
[12:37] <dizzy> a simple command to get cpu% in shell variable ?
[12:37] <ice_1963> deb here
[12:38] <ice_1963> =)
[12:38] <XplOzIon> =D
[12:38] <Prof_Frink> OK, I'm trying to install SDL, and I get the following error message:
[12:38] <Prof_Frink> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/slang/slang1-dev_1.4.9dbs-8_i386.deb  Bad header line [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:38] <Prof_Frink> any advice?
[12:38] <bob2> Prof_Frink: are you behind a proxy?
[12:39] <Prof_Frink> no
[12:39] <membreya> XplOzIon: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~membreya/ms sorry :P
[12:39] <bob2> Prof_Frink: are you really really sure?
[12:39] <Goonie> How can I see which version of ipw2200 I'm using?
[12:40] <XplOzIon> membreya, hehe yeah =P
[12:40] <Prof_Frink> waitaminute, NTL might cache/proxy stuff
[12:40] <Prof_Frink> other stuff has installed fine
[12:40] <Choubaka> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/j/00/00/26/18/1972836.jpg <- that's one eerie-looking cat :)
[12:41] <bob2> Prof_Frink: try using a different url
[12:41] <bob2> like archive.ubuntu.com
[12:42] <XplOzIon> membreya, hey know any newbie tuts for setting up a site in apache+php?
[12:42] <bob2> XplOzIon: install apache.  install php.  read the instructions.  enjoy!
[12:43] <bob2> apache2 and libapache2-mod-php4 are the packages you want
[12:43] <XplOzIon> bob2, hehe i just did
[12:44] <markuman> where are the gamers? went to #ubuntu-gaming ;-)
[12:45] <Prof_Frink> same error without the gb. on the front
[12:46] <Goonie> How can I see which version of ipw2200 I have installed?
[12:46] <locomorto> it shoudl work by default in hoary Goonie
[12:47] <Prof_Frink> hmm, firefox can find the url and offers to download the file
[12:47] <iluciv> Hi where can I find info or a howto on setting up mythtv on ubuntu (hoary)
[12:48] <Goonie> locomorto~ I have errors on boot.. need to see if hoary installs 1.03 by default
[12:49] <mjr> iluciv, I dunno, but hey, if you find some, tell me ;)
[12:50] <shinu_> sorry, where are the system startup scripts?
[12:50] <mjr> shinu_, /etc/init.d
[12:50] <shinu_> mjr: thanks
[12:51] <mjr> shinu_, and links that start/stop them in /etc/rc?.d
[12:51] <Taliesin`> gah
[12:51] <Taliesin`> so hard to get Ubuntu and Skype working :(
[12:52] <mjr> were Skype free, I'm sure it'd be included ;I
[12:52] <iluciv> speaking of skype do you download the .deb package if so how do you install it
[12:52] <iluciv> sorry real noob
[12:52] <Taliesin`> dpkg --install skype.deb :)
[12:52] <iluciv> cool
[12:52] <Taliesin`> you'll beed linqt
[12:52] <Taliesin`> err
[12:52] <Taliesin`> libqt
[12:53] <Taliesin`> which can be apt-get'd
[12:53] <iluciv> what is that the same as synaptic
[12:53] <Taliesin`> (mjr): It is free isnt it? has no cost involved :/
[12:53] <Taliesin`> (iluciv): i just like the die-hard debian way's :P
[12:54] <mjr> Taliesin`, only as in beer, not speech
[12:54] <Taliesin`> :\
[12:54] <smouche> iluciv, synaptic is simply a convenient front-end for apt-get , best for debian newbies
[12:54] <smouche> imho
[12:54] <Lenny1729> Does actually a ps viewer with search function exist in ubuntu?
[12:55] <xxenon> when do we get a good 2.6.11 with the restricted modules (nvidia) ?
[12:56] <bob2> you won't
[12:56] <xxenon> good news...
[12:56] <xerxes1358> and can I export it also to other formats maybe ? outlook/ kontact ?
[12:56] <bob2> 2.6.12 will be out after udu
[12:56] <xerxes1358> how do I export my mail from evolution ? and can I export it also to other formats maybe ? outlook/ kontact ?
[12:57] <xxenon> well, maybe we wont 2.6.12 restricted modules neither
[12:57] <bob2> and maybe the sky will fall
[12:57] <bob2> 2.6.12 will be a supported kernel, from what I hear
[12:58] <xxenon> ok.
[12:58] <iluciv> taliesin, no cost skype2skype charge skype to landline/mobile
[12:59] <Taliesin`> i knew that ;)
[12:59] <WillCooke> is it normal to have to load the ohci_hcd module in order to talk to things on a usb2 controller.  I thought the ehci_hcd mod did that
[12:59] <iluciv> sorry noobie been using computer not very long can you tell :s
[12:59] <Taliesin`> (iluciv): i can now :P
[12:59] <iluciv> ha
[01:00] <Taliesin`> :>
[01:00] <Taliesin`> share the love <3
[01:02] <iluciv> ok ok I'm trying to set up my mythtv at the mo and I'm a little frayed after a little reading about my body weight in text
[01:02] <iluciv> :|
[01:02] <iluciv> :)
[01:02] <iluciv> :D
[01:03] <membreya> iluciv: hah good luck :P
[01:04] <shinu_> is it normal that the additional repositories on ubuntufaq doesnt seem to work properly for me?
[01:04] <iluciv> why is it difficult as far as I can rekon I set up my sql ???? prob 1 then my backend then my front end right???
[01:04] <membreya> iluciv: ...essentially :)
[01:05] <membreya> shinu_: which ones?
[01:05] <iluciv> membreya: any howto guides
[01:05] <bob2> shinu_: because they're broken
[01:05] <membreya> www.mythtv.org? :P
[01:05] <bob2> shinu_: for instance, do not use marillat's source with hoary or breezy
[01:05] <iluciv> :P
[01:06] <shinu_> membreya: the ones here: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[01:06] <shinu_> bob2: uh.... damnit
[01:06] <shinu_> is mplayer on the default repositories?
[01:06] <membreya> marillats work ok ..well the main one does
[01:07] <iluciv> membreya: got nvidia then??
[01:07] <bob2> membreya: no, it does not
[01:07] <bob2> shinu_: it's in multiverse
[01:07] <bob2> shinu_: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[01:07] <shinu_> bob2: ok ill try that
[01:07] <membreya> bob2: main marillat works for me bob2 you just need to add the gpg key
[01:07] <bob2> membreya: ok!
[01:08] <shinu_> bob2: i would prefer to play around with apt-get :D
[01:08] <bob2> apt-get works great, as long as you don't poison it with broken repositories
[01:08] <membreya> apt-get ..synaptic..it's just a gui :)
[01:08] <shinu_> :D
[01:08] <iluciv> I've installed the drivers but when I run glxgears I get:--> lib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:08] <iluciv> glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.
[01:09] <membreya> iluciv: have you edited your xorg.conf?
[01:09] <shinu_> are the links to multiverse in the default sources.list?
[01:09] <iluciv> umm
[01:09] <membreya> iluciv: from a terminal type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:10] <membreya> and check your device section
[01:10] <membreya> it will probably say nv
[01:10] <membreya> it should be nvidia
[01:11] <djones> iluciv: you may also want to add the line         Option           "NoLogo" "1"
[01:11] <membreya> iluciv: and try your luck with renderaccel :P
[01:12] <shinu_> is deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse working?
[01:13] <membreya> by the way shinu, don't forget to do a sudo apt-get update whenever you change your repo's ;)
[01:13] <shinu_> ok :)
[01:14] <iluciv> djones: where??
[01:15] <iluciv> membreya: WT is renderaccel?? :s
[01:17] <membreya> iluciv: http://www3.telus.net/public/dale_d/nvidia.html
[01:17] <_4strO> ohaio
[01:18] <Frafra> hi all
[01:19] <Frafra> how can i use bluetooth adapter on ubuntu?
[01:20] <kandinski> I am trying to do a netbootinstall and I have found the boot.img but not the ramdisk img, where would that be and what would its name be?
[01:20] <Frafra> who can help me?
[01:21] <kandinski> sladen: you in?
[01:21] <iluciv> membreya: I think I'
[01:21] <kandinski> sladen: I got a toshiba m200 and sold the 3500, am trying to install it now
[01:21] <iluciv> ll just get the driver then tvout to work first :P
[01:23] <davix> anybody got an idea why xqf finds only old servers? (2.56)
[01:23] <membreya> iluciv: did you check your driver that xorg is using?
[01:24] <iluciv> membreya: "nv"
[01:25] <membreya> iluciv: change it to nvidia
[01:25] <membreya> and then do a ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:25] <iluciv> membreya: have done do I have to put a nvidia module in as well???
[01:25] <membreya> iluciv: it should automatically load it
[01:25] <shinu> how do i change information and settings of my account?
[01:29] <Frafra> who can help me?
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> frafra with what?
[01:33] <mcmillan_33> hi guys. can someone give me a hand with an nvidia issue?
[01:34] <membreya> shinu: from a terminal, type usermod
[01:34] <membreya> sup mcmillan_33 ?
[01:35] <mcmillan_33> the following
[01:35] <mcmillan_33> i checked ubuntuguide.org to find out how to install nvidia
[01:35] <mcmillan_33> didn't work
[01:35] <shinu> membreya: thanks
[01:35] <membreya> elaborate on "didn't work"
[01:36] <Jimmothy> time to let partition magic do its thing, then installl ubuntu
[01:36] <Jimmothy> byes
[01:36] <mcmillan_33> now i get "bad display name" on the xorg output
[01:37] <queuetue> Is there a way to reset the error count on a network interface?
[01:38] <membreya> mcmillan_33: post your Xorg.0.log to pastebin
[01:39] <membreya> and give us the URL
[01:40] <gds> hi
[01:41] <gds> how can I do to avoid automounting in gnome, when I insert a cd?
[01:42] <LarstiQ> moin
[01:43] <shinu> can i also add a user to a group with usermod?
[01:46] <membreya> shinu: sudo usermod <groupname> -g <username>
[01:47] <shinu> membreya: ok... couldnt figure out the syntax xD
[01:47] <shinu> thanks
[01:48] <BockBilbo> hello
[01:48] <BockBilbo> anyone here has managed to use airsnort with the intel pro wireless card?
[01:49] <shinu> i do it when im root but it still doesnt add my other account to wheel group
[01:49] <BockBilbo> shinu, u talking to me?
[01:50] <shinu> BockBilbo: no :D but if you could help ...:P
[01:50] <membreya> shinu: does ubuntu have a wheel group? :P
[01:50] <shinu> membreya: i think i added one (groupadd wheel)
[01:50] <membreya> shinu: type groups
[01:51] <shinu> for which user? my own? not root right?
[01:51] <BockBilbo> mm
[01:51] <LarstiQ> Mainly, no network is being troublesome
[01:51] <membreya> shinu: ..just type groups
[01:51] <LarstiQ> would anyone have experience with this perchance?
[01:51] <shinu> membreya: for root it gives back: root
[01:51] <shinu> membreya: for my other user it gives:
[01:52] <BockBilbo> anyways...
[01:52] <BockBilbo> cyall
[01:52] <BockBilbo> bye
[01:55] <bob2> eh?
[01:55] <bob2> they're both on your hard disjk
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> how can you tell what video driver you are using?
[01:58] <membreya> glxinfo |grep vendor
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> thank
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> ss
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> *thanks
[02:02] <shinu> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[02:02] <shinu> deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[02:02] <shinu> oops sorry wrong window
[02:03] <LarstiQ> bob2: right, I mean I modprobed them, but they didn't really _do_ much :)
[02:07] <iluciv> membrya: got nvida driver working :D
[02:07] <membreya> good work iluciv
[02:07] <membreya> why so long?
[02:07] <iluciv> had to eat and have shower
[02:08] <membreya> sure sure :P
[02:08] <iluciv> ha truley
[02:08] <iluciv> ha truely
[02:09] <shinu> does it make any dofference if i do sudo make install or make install as root?
[02:09] <Seveas> no
[02:09] <iluciv> decided to let myth pass for tonight I can't even seem to get mp3s to play
[02:09] <membreya> lol iluciv :P
[02:10] <Dalkus> iluciv, www.ubuntuguide.org explains many problems, including how to get mp3s to play
[02:10] <Dalkus> shinu, no
[02:10] <shinu> thanks
[02:10] <Dalkus> np
[02:11] <natecull> I have some printing issues
[02:11] <natecull> HP Deskjet 400
[02:11] <iluciv> ta dalkus: does it explain how to get dvds to play as well I have two I want to watch tonight and I was hope I could get them working before I have to take them back to the vid shop
[02:11] <shinu> is there any faq on how to get mplayer to play properly not as root?...
[02:11] <natecull> the kind that does either colour or black and white depending on what is sent to it
[02:11] <Dalkus> iluciv, yep, it does
[02:11] <iluciv> rad :D
[02:11] <natecull> even though I set the options in the print driver to 'Black and White', whenever I try to print a test page it requests a colour cartridge
[02:12] <natecull> and then, even though I restart the printer and delete all jobs from the queue, I get garbage printing out until I reboot
[02:13] <dave__> ive got 8 updates showing for ubuntu, but when i try and get them i get a 500 internal server error, theyre all from the backports servers.... any ideas?
[02:13] <natecull> any ideas how I should go about troubleshooting printing?
[02:13] <bob2> dave__: don't use backports
[02:13] <dave__> make sure cable isnt dodgy i had that once and was the cable
[02:13] <aeho> What I need to install to extract .rar files?
[02:13] <bob2> aeho: unrar or unrar-nonfree
[02:13] <dave__> i just used the ubuntu guide thing how do i get rid of em
[02:13] <Dalkus> aeho, sudo apt-get install rar
[02:13] <bob2> aeho: best avoid the format entirely, tho, if you can
[02:13] <Dalkus> then use rar -e filename.rar to extract
[02:13] <bob2> dave__: do you use synaptic?
[02:14] <dave__> yeh
[02:14] <bob2> then use synaptic to get rid of them
[02:14] <shinu> how do i remove software that i installed from sourse?
[02:14] <shinu> source*
[02:14] <bob2> wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:14] <dave__> hmm i did get rid of the backports repo's from there yesterday but theyve reappeared
[02:14] <membreya> shinu: sudo make uninstall
[02:14] <bob2> shinu: that's program specific, you need to read the documentation that came with each program you installed
[02:14] <membreya> in your compiled directory
[02:15] <bob2> membreya: not usually
[02:15] <shinu> membreya: ok thanks
[02:15] <shinu> alright
[02:15] <bob2> membreya: and only if he/shekept the compilation dir
[02:15] <membreya> shinu: listen to bob2, he's the oracle :)
[02:15] <membreya> bob2: it's generally a good idea to do that until you know it works..that or make a .deb
[02:15] <shinu> :D
[02:16] <bob2> membreya: to install things from source, you mean?
[02:16] <zzyber> i have two ubuntu installations and i wounder. Is it possible to be a spectator for the other desktop if someone is logged in?
[02:16] <natecull> dave__: This is the same printer and cable I've been using with no problems for years. Though, hmm. It is a new machine, I suppose that might be affecting something
[02:16] <bob2> zzyber: have you asked them?
[02:16] <membreya> bob2: it's a good idea to keep the compiled package directory until you know it works :)
[02:16] <membreya> is what I mean
[02:16] <bob2> membreya: right
[02:17] <zzyber> bob2, :-)
[02:17] <natecull> I have my LPT1 set to ECP in the BIOS, is that likely to be a sensible setting? It was the default.
[02:17] <bob2> zzyber: so you mean "Is there a way to spy on someone else?"?
[02:17] <zzyber> bob2, exactly
[02:18] <bob2> zzyber: of course, if you're root
[02:18] <bob2> no way I'm telling you, tho
[02:18] <bob2> and shame on you for asking
[02:18] <zzyber> omg
[02:19] <jin> anyone with real nice repositories that would add the newest software?? like firefox 1.0.3 nikto 1.34??
[02:19] <iluciv> membreya: that other nvidia tweak you pointed out to me before what the page agian I can't find the page again after cntrl+alt+bkspc (I didn't expect that?? :)
[02:19] <membreya> lol :P
[02:19] <natecull> hmm
[02:19] <bob2> jin: isn't firefox 1.0.3 in breezy?
[02:19] <natecull> that's a good point
[02:19] <membreya> iluciv: don't you log everything? :)
[02:19] <jin> bob: whats breezy?
[02:20] <natecull> aren't the Firefox 1.0.x point releases security updates? Shouldn't they be in the security repository?
[02:20] <bob2> jin: the development version of ubuntu
[02:20] <bob2> natecull: no, read the faq
[02:20] <natecull> jin: The next version
[02:20] <natecull> bob2: Which FAQ?
[02:20] <jin> aha..
[02:20] <iluciv> umm noobie :)
[02:20] <bob2> natecull: (hint: ubuntu backports fixes to the version of the software in stable)
[02:21] <natecull> I can't even find a link to the FAQ page from the Ubuntu page now...
[02:21] <natecull> bob2: Hmm. So what would the latest Firefox package be named then?
[02:21] <bob2> no idea where it is atm
[02:21] <natecull> is it in the wiki?
[02:21] <bob2> no idea
[02:21] <membreya> bob2: firefox is only 1.0.2 in breezy
[02:21] <natecull> or somewhere else?
[02:21] <natecull> the site's getting big...
[02:21] <natecull> I guess that's a good thing
[02:22] <jin> is there anyone using breezy??
[02:22] <membreya> jin: me
[02:22] <bob2> natecull: same as the version in hoary but with an increment after the - in the version
[02:22] <bob2> membreya: ok
[02:22] <bob2> then I guess  you have to wait for 1.0.3
[02:22] <membreya> i thought they took the security updates from 1.0.3 and put them back into 1.0.2 for ubuntu..but I might be wrong
[02:23] <bob2> yes
[02:23] <jin> how about nikto 1.34 security scanner? the latest I find is 1.32
[02:23] <bob2> I've never heard of nikto
[02:23] <natecull> so 'mozilla-firefox-1.0.2-ubuntu5' is equivalent to Firefox 1.0.3?
[02:23] <bob2> so I doubt it get security updates
[02:23] <bob2> natecull: no
[02:24] <natecull> I mean in terms of security
[02:24] <natecull> vulnerabilities
[02:24] <bob2> natecull: it presumably has the security fixes 1.0.3 has
[02:24] <membreya> natecull: they do backporting
[02:24] <natecull> is there any kind of database anywhere where one can check?
[02:24] <membreya> just looked it up in the lists :)
[02:24] <bob2> natecull: the ubuntu-security-announce list archives
[02:24] <natecull> aha
[02:25] <bob2> doesn't appear firefox has been updated
[02:25] <jin> nikto is a web scanner for vulnerability
[02:25] <bob2> perhaps the issues weren't critical enough
[02:25] <bob2> jin: but it's unsupported
[02:27] <a_peck> is it worth going through all the pain in the *55 to install php5?
[02:28] <natecull> dunno
[02:28] <iluciv> membreya: with that nvidia driver I installed can I now edit xorg.conf for svideo out socket so I can plug it into the tv
[02:28] <natecull> a lot of hosting sites I've looked at recently only have php4
[02:28] <natecull> presumably there's a reason
[02:28] <membreya> iluciv: use twinview :)
[02:29] <a_peck> natecull, php5 isn't even in the repositories... I do wonder if it's worth it. Has anyone tried and has a view?
[02:29] <iluciv> membreya: ah yes the old twinview???
[02:29] <membreya> lol! :P
[02:30] <Frafra> i can trasfer file from my tel to my pc by bluetooth
[02:30] <zenwhen> is that a question?
[02:30] <Frafra> but i don't know how do I do for send file to my tel
[02:31] <Frafra> some body can help me?
[02:32] <zenwhen> Frafra, this really depends on the model of your phone, if your phone supports it, and if someone here has experience with your phone.
[02:33] <Frafra> yes
[02:33] <Frafra> i tried it on fedora core 3
[02:33] <membreya> got it working yet iluciv ?
[02:33] <IamJacksUsername> Trying to play DVDs, I was adding "universe" to Synaptic as per http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats 2.1, but got "Could not download all repository indexes": "cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] /dists/hoary/Release: Unable to find expected entry  universe/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[02:33] <Jimmothy> how come there's no ubuntu torrents?
[02:33] <Frafra> and using gnome it goes
[02:34] <natecull> Jimmothy: torrents of the Hoary CDs? I'm sure there are.
[02:34] <iluciv> no twinview in xorg.conf
[02:34] <Frafra> i not know how i must do on ubuntu
[02:34] <membreya> iluciv: thats because you need to put it there
[02:35] <Jimmothy> natecull: found it
[02:35] <propagandhi> anybody can make a torrent anyway
[02:35] <membreya> iluciv: easiest way is to read the README for nvidia ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7174/README.txt
[02:35] <membreya> but if you need help just let me know
[02:37] <plagerism> So would you say breezy is more like Debian experimental than say debian unstable right now??
[02:37] <bob2> yes
[02:37] <bob2> don't use breezy
[02:37] <plagerism> lol
[02:37] <plagerism> Too late
[02:37] <plagerism> Heh
[02:37] <bob2> well, that was silly
[02:37] <plagerism> Yea I am beginning to realize that
[02:37] <natecull> isn't breezy right now just sid?
[02:37] <bob2> no
[02:37] <natecull> ah
[02:38] <plagerism> I wanted something like unstable
[02:38] <XplOzIon> hey is there a problem with the repositories?? apt-get update posting some errors
[02:38] <membreya> how do you tell what AGP rate is currently being used on your card ? NVIDIA(0): Detected AGP rate: 8X in Xorg.0.log, does that mean the rate being used or just the rate detected
[02:38] <Frafra> who can help me?
[02:39] <natecull> Frafra: sorry, I have absolutely zero knowledge of anything Bluetooth related
[02:39] <natecull> except that I suspect each vendor implements it differently
[02:39] <IamJacksUsername> I can't get xine-ui from universe (scroll up), is there something in main restricted that can play DVDs? (already installed css)
[02:39] <Frafra> i used it with fedora with gnome-bluetooth
[02:39] <natecull> hmm
[02:39] <Frafra> i've installed it in ubuntu
[02:39] <bob2> IamJacksUsername: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:39] <vaidas> hello, does someone knows tutorial how to install ubuntu from live cd ?
[02:40] <Frafra> but in the menu doesn't exist "send by bluetooth"
[02:40] <natecull> and does it give any errors?
[02:40] <Frafra> no
[02:40] <bob2> vaidas: you can't
[02:40] <natecull> which menu?
[02:40] <kassh> hi everybody ... i have another prob... when i do ps -A in my shell i point out there too much app runining for nothing how can i do to make not runnig some apps useless at startup??? any idea ??
[02:40] <Frafra> exist "send to..."
[02:40] <IamJacksUsername> bob2: I followed that to add universe, but itg ives an error: "Could not download all repository indexes": "cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] /dists/hoary/Release: Unable to find expected entry  universe/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[02:40] <Frafra> natecull, the menu [right button on the mouse]
[02:40] <Frafra> in gnome
[02:40] <bob2> IamJacksUsername: meh, don't use the cd then
[02:40] <natecull> er
[02:41] <natecull> there are lots of menus in Gnome
[02:41] <bob2> IamJacksUsername: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:41] <natecull> which program?
[02:41] <natecull> Do you mean Nautilus?
[02:41] <natecull> the file manager?
[02:41] <kassh> i mno
[02:41] <kassh> no
[02:41] <kassh> im under kde
[02:41] <kassh> i m gone send u some example
[02:41] <bob2> kassh: meh, what don't you think should be running?
[02:41] <IamJacksUsername> Thanks bob2, I'll try to unCD the repository.
[02:42] <kassh>   PID TTY          TIME CMD
[02:42] <kassh>     1 ?        00:00:00 init
[02:42] <kassh>     2 ?        00:00:00 ksoftirqd/0
[02:42] <kassh>     3 ?        00:00:00 events/0
[02:42] <kassh>     4 ?        00:00:00 khelper
[02:42] <kassh>    16 ?        00:00:00 kacpid
[02:42] <kassh>   117 ?        00:00:00 kblockd/0
[02:42] <kassh>   125 ?        00:00:00 khubd
[02:42] <kassh>   165 ?        00:00:00 pdflush
[02:42] <kassh>   166 ?        00:00:00 pdflush
[02:42] <kassh>   168 ?        00:00:00 aio/0
[02:42] <kassh>   167 ?        00:00:00 kswapd0
[02:42] <kassh>   755 ?        00:00:00 kseriod
[02:42] <kassh>  1119 ?        00:00:00 kjournald
[02:42] <Jimmothy> ...
[02:42] <kassh>  1146 ?        00:00:00 udevd
[02:42] <kassh>  2283 ?        00:00:00 khpsbpkt
[02:42] <kassh>  3901 ?        00:00:00 shpchpd_event
[02:42] <kassh>  4169 ?        00:00:00 pccardd
[02:42] <kassh>  4177 ?        00:00:00 pccardd
[02:42] <Jimmothy> bye
[02:42] <kassh>  4301 ?        00:00:00 knodemgrd_0
[02:42] <kassh>  5968 ?        00:00:00 dhcpcd-bin
[02:42] <kassh>  6000 ?        00:00:00 portmap
[02:42] <kassh>  6360 ?        00:00:00 dd
[02:42] <kassh>  6362 ?        00:00:00 klogd
[02:42] <bassMonkey> flood
[02:42] <XplOzIon> hey is there a problem with the repositories?? apt-get update posting some errors. about missed file
[02:43] <thenuke> we need bots.
[02:43] <bob2> we need people to not be idiots
[02:43] <Frafra> :D
[02:43] <bob2> that would be way simpler
[02:43] <XplOzIon> :P
[02:43] <XplOzIon> true
[02:43] <thenuke> bob2: that just does not happen.
[02:43] <bob2> XplOzIon: have you pasted the error to #flood yet?
[02:43] <natecull> I guess this is why Windows Task Manager by default doesn't list all running daemons unless you go look for them
[02:43] <thenuke> bot are easy to be made True
[02:43] <XplOzIon> bob2, flood? oO /me is a newbie
[02:44] <Dalkus> the channel, #flood
[02:44] <bob2> XplOzIon: there's a channel called #flood.  paste the error to it.
[02:44] <natecull> nice
[02:44] <bob2> kassh: can you not do that please?
[02:44] <XplOzIon> bob2, ok i will. Thanks
[02:45] <plagerism> so bob2 are you one of the 30 paid Ubuntu Employees, or no?
[02:45] <bob2> there aren't 30
[02:45] <bob2> and no, I'm not paid to work on ubuntu
[02:45] <bob2> tho I do work for canonical
[02:45] <plagerism> Oh okay
[02:46] <plagerism> Dont know why I asked that, if I had to pay anyone it would be you though
[02:46] <natecull> mmm, bribes
[02:46] <vaidas> guys i wanna ask is it worth it to install ubuntu on 800mhz p3 with 128mb ram... would it be very slow ?
[02:46] <Seveas> vaidas, it's worth it
[02:46] <bob2> not paid to do anything related to #ubuntu, tho
[02:47] <Seveas> vaidas, i run ubuntu on AMD 900 + 128 mb
[02:47] <Seveas> works like a charm
[02:47] <vaidas> m..
[02:47] <vaidas> thanks..
[02:47] <jintxo> vaidas, I think it would be acceptable. I run it on a 300 (not gnome or KDE for me though:-)
[02:47] <vaidas> im asking becouse live cd is kind slow..
[02:47] <Seveas> 800 mhz is enough for gnome
[02:48] <vaidas> but i gues my cd-rom makes it run slow..
[02:48] <Seveas> vaidas, that's because a livecd generally is slow
[02:48] <bassMonkey> that's slow on any comp...
[02:48] <Seveas> because it runs from the cd
[02:48] <jintxo> it has to read everything from cd first.. slows it down a bit
[02:48] <vaidas> yeh..
[02:48] <vaidas> thanks for info
[02:49] <bassMonkey> My neighbour runs it on a athlon750 192mb and it seems to run well
[02:49] <enebro> hi
[02:49] <Seveas> ih
[02:49] <bob2> kassh: don't /msg people
[02:49] <bob2> kassh: if you think you have uneccessary things running, then say, one ONE LINE, which you think are unecessary
[02:50] <vaidas> btw bob2 i found tutorial how to install from live cd to hdd :)
[02:50] <vaidas> so its possible :)
[02:50] <bob2> where?
[02:51] <vaidas> here http://www.willmer.com/kb/2005/02/installing-ubuntu-hoary-from-livecd/
[02:51] <bob2> vaidas: that doesn't count
[02:51] <bob2> you can manually install from a piece of string if you want
[02:52] <vaidas> yes i know..
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> are the apt repositries for breezy badger up yet?
[02:53] <plagerism> you could also use a hex editor to change the contents of your drive
[02:53] <plagerism> and change it to hoary
[02:53] <plagerism> I saw a tutorial on it!!!
[02:53] <Seveas> Kamping_Kaiser, they are
[02:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool. thanks
[02:54] <bob2> Kamping_Kaiser: please don't switch to it
[02:54] <plagerism> I wonder how awful pinning hoary in the preference file and downgrading from breezy would be
[02:54] <Dalkus> not good, apparently
[02:54] <Seveas> plagerism, downgrading is hard, very hard
[02:55] <plagerism> Seveas, so I hear
[02:55] <plagerism> lol
[02:55] <Seveas> plagerism, switching to breezy is generally a bad idea in this stage of development
[02:55] <aeho> Why kino can't open uncompressed avi files? Can someone help?
[02:55] <plagerism> Well you tell me now
[02:55] <zenwhen> bad idea for you, great idea for all
[02:56] <plagerism> Whos all zenwhen?
[02:56] <zenwhen> I am getting an ibook to use as my main machine
[02:56] <zenwhen> so i can run breezy on my dektop
[02:56] <zenwhen> all is everyone who will once day use breezy
[02:56] <zenwhen> breezy has to be tested to become good
[02:56] <zenwhen> once*
[02:56] <zenwhen> one*
[02:56] <Seveas> zenwhen, breezy will be unstable
[02:56] <Seveas> VERY unstable
[02:57] <zenwhen> until people find the bugs
[02:57] <zenwhen> yes, it will
[02:57] <Seveas> so upgrading is only a good idea if you are willing to help testing and debugging and know about how to debug
[02:57] <plagerism> So in breezy, I noticed when I upgraded, evolution was removed, this is just temporary right??
[02:57] <zenwhen> plagerism, yes
[02:57] <Seveas> zenwhen, the average user does not know this
[02:57] <bob2> breezy is the development version
[02:57] <EvilSporkMan> so i tried hoary-amd64 last night...first time i've ever had linux crash O_O
[02:57] <bob2> things will break if you use it
[02:57] <Seveas> zenwhen, and that's why it is in general not advisory to update
[02:57] <iluciv> the backports repositry in http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#generalnotes doesn't seem to be current anywhere else I can get a current listing??
[02:57] <membreya> which file has a users groups?
[02:57] <plagerism> bob2, I know my chair broke from using it
[02:58] <Seveas> membreya, /etc/group
[02:58] <membreya> ie when you change a users group permissions..where is it stored?
[02:58] <EvilSporkMan> nautilus kept crashing while using it to SFTP the contents of my home directory from my old comp, and then i got it to hardlock by doing the above SFTP plus scping a tar file of my old home directory from a different computer
[02:58] <bob2> iluciv: don't use backports. at all.
[02:58] <zenwhen>  /etc/group
[02:58] <zenwhen> backports made out with my mom
[02:58] <iluciv> ok anyreason why??
[02:58] <zenwhen> it scarred me for life
[02:58] <zenwhen> dont let it happen to you
[02:59] <Seveas> iluciv, backports can damage your system heavily
[02:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> bob2. why not use it, becuase its unstable?
[02:59] <bob2> iluciv: because they're broken and silly
[02:59] <bob2> Kamping_Kaiser: because things will break
[02:59] <Seveas> not neccessarily, but i've seen more bad then good from backports
[02:59] <bob2> brezzy is not ready for end users
[02:59] <bob2> there's a big tool chain update coming soon
[02:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[02:59] <iluciv> can I just comment them out?? incase there unbroken in the future
[02:59] <bob2> if you don't know what that means, it's a sign you shouldn't be using it ;)
[02:59] <bob2> iluciv: yes
[02:59] <membreya> if I change the group file, do I need to do anything to reload it ?
[02:59] <Seveas> massivebreakage...
[02:59] <Anlar> bob2: woo, the selinux stuff in?
[02:59] <zenwhen> iluciv, because I used backports... instead of being able to upgrade to hoary... i had to format.
[03:00] <Seveas> backports stink...
[03:00] <plagerism> bob2, is that like a tool belt??
[03:00] <EvilSporkMan> is it normal for integrated networking on motherboards to make a bit of noise while transferring data? sort of a hiss or staticy noise...
[03:00] <bob2> Anlar: I don't know
[03:00] <Seveas> plagerism, lol :)
[03:00] <promethe> how can I manualy remove all works from the printer
[03:00] <Seveas> EvilSporkMan, no
[03:00] <bob2> zenwhen: you didn't have to format, you just had to remove the backports
[03:00] <zenwhen> EvilSporkMan, no that is not normal.
[03:00] <Anlar> evilsporkman: yes, it's quite common.
[03:01] <bob2> they're broken, but they're not *that* broken
[03:01] <Anlar> they are cheap anyways.
[03:01] <mipfi_> where can i set the sound output in flash to esound
[03:01] <zenwhen> bob2, technically you are right, but it would have been more trouble.
[03:01] <zenwhen> I had installed a ton of debian packages too
[03:01] <zenwhen> I really hosed my warty install.
[03:01] <EvilSporkMan> Anlar, Seveas / zenwhen: care to reconcile your differences real quick? ^^; I'm a bit worried because i just built the comp and it's the first one I've built.
[03:02] <zenwhen> But my hoary install stayed pure hoary and I ran it way before release.
[03:02] <Anlar> evilsporkman: you get what you paid for.
[03:02] <zenwhen> I love hoary. It got rid of my need for such practices.
[03:02] <Seveas> network things making noise dos not sound good...
[03:02] <Seveas> zenwhen, then don't use breeze for now :)
[03:02] <Anlar> nah, it's just some crappy insulation and signals interfering.. nothing bad.. a cheap integrated chip somewhere leaking or something.
[03:02] <EvilSporkMan> Anlar: I don't MIND the noise, I'm just wondering if it's harmful. are you implying I made a poor choice in motherboard? it's Abit's NF8 model for socket 754 (the networking is on it)
[03:03] <EvilSporkMan> Anlar: ah, ok. thanks
[03:03] <Anlar> evilsporkman: no. all the integrated are mostly crap. e100s are slightly better but they still are integrated.
[03:03] <ringmauer> how to format an ntfs disk into ext3?
[03:04] <Seveas> ringmauer, read the manpage for mkfs
[03:04] <EvilSporkMan> Anlar: could you clarify "crap"? do you mean unsafe to use, likely to break in the future, or just noisy?
[03:04] <ringmauer> seveas, tnx
[03:04] <Seveas> ringmauer, you know you'll lose all data and the drive won't be accessible from windows...
[03:04] <Anlar> evilsporkman: just cheap. does the stuff but it has been made as cheap as possible. they usually work good enough for desktops.
[03:04] <gaio> anyone can help me using gftp and ssl?
[03:04] <ringmauer> seveas, i know
[03:05] <Seveas> ok, just had to make sure ringmauer :)
[03:05] <ringmauer> seveas, but i dont understand the man, i want to format /dev/sda7 into an ext3 partion
[03:05] <goldfish> holy god.
[03:05] <goldfish> 495 nicks :)
[03:05] <goldfish> Man, I remember this only had 100 or so.
[03:05] <Seveas> :)
[03:05] <goldfish> Ubuntu will need it's own irc server soon :)
[03:06] <mahmoud> can anyone help in installing linux-686-smp via         apt-get install linux-686-smp
[03:06] <mahmoud> ?
[03:06] <Seveas> mahmoud, what's the problem?
[03:06] <EvilSporkMan> is hoary-amd64 considered harmful? i had nautilus crash a couple times last night and that's enough for me...
[03:06] <bob2> EvilSporkMan: please file a bug
[03:06] <bob2> mahmoud: you haven't told us what the problem is yet...
[03:07] <gaio> anyone can help me using gftp and ssl?
[03:07] <Seveas> gaio, just state the problem..
[03:07] <ringmauer> seveas, can u guide me a little bit, how to format /dev/sda7 into ext3,
[03:07] <goldfish> I'm installing hoary on an old pc i got, 500 pentium 3, 128 mb ram, it current has no ethernet card, but i'm gonna buy one soon, will there be much difficulty in installing an ethernet card on ubuntu? Sorry, I've never installed any hardware b4, and im not using linux too long...
[03:07] <promethe> how can I manualy remove all works from the printer
[03:07] <mahmoud> when i run uapt-get install linux-686-smp ,     I get Bad header line [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[03:07] <mahmoud> Failed to fetch
[03:07] <Seveas> promethe, read the manpage for lprm
[03:07] <gaio> Seveas, i get this string from gftp: FTPS Support unavailable since SSL support was not compiled in. Aborting connection.
[03:08] <kash> hi i come with a small prob ...do u know how can i disable processes at every startup which are are useless ??? any idea ?
[03:08] <Seveas> gaio, that means you need to use another ftp client :)
[03:08] <Seveas> gaio, i believe nautilus can do sftp too
[03:09] <mahmoud> I also got this:  E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-mis sing?
[03:09] <Seveas> kash, processes that ubuntu starts at startup (default install) usually are not useless...
[03:09] <Seveas> mahmoud, run apt-get update a few times, see if it resolves
[03:09] <jintxo> kash, you can use "update-rc.d" to remove services at startup. becareful with what you remove though ;-p
[03:09] <Seveas> jintxo, not good
[03:09] <gaio> kash, use UBM
[03:09] <Seveas> that'll be undone after the next upgrade of that package
[03:10] <SysFail> whats a good value for gxgears????...im getting about 600 or so
[03:10] <SysFail> glxgears
[03:10] <kash> some processes are exactly the same for example apache2 is present 3 times
[03:10] <plagerism> SysFail, depends on your card/drivers
[03:11] <LinuxJones> SysFail, that's a bit low I usually get 1700 with a Nvidia GForce2
[03:11] <Seveas> SysFail, depends on your hardware...
[03:11] <barto-kun> SysFail: I was getting 3000+ on ATi drivers, back when I had a *shudder* ATi card
[03:11] <SysFail> thats what i have...gfroce 2
[03:11] <EvilSporkMan> SysFail: glxinfo | grep render
[03:11] <Seveas> kash, that is normal
[03:11] <jintxo> kash, that's because apache starts up a minimum number of server prosesses when it starts
[03:11] <barto-kun> 6000+ on my GeForce 6600GT
[03:11] <EvilSporkMan> SysFail: you should see Direct rendering: Yes
[03:11] <SysFail> direct rendering: Yes
[03:11] <SysFail> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce2 MX/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
[03:11] <tbird> 3397.000 FPS on a FX5200
[03:11] <kash> what about getty which is present 4 times
[03:11] <EvilSporkMan> SysFail: well, I get 600 fps just using Mesa =P
[03:11] <mahmoud> I did  "apt-get update" several times. I get the same problem with Synaptic: Bad headers. Could the package be corrupted??
[03:12] <SysFail> yeah..something is wrong somewhere
[03:12] <SysFail> 600 cant be right
[03:12] <EvilSporkMan> kash: getty runs once for each virtual terminal
[03:12] <plagerism> Man I feel envy, I gotta get rid of this damn ATI card
[03:12] <SysFail> its a 64 meg card though
[03:12] <Seveas> mahmoud, apt-get update does nothing with packages
[03:12] <kash> oh ok
[03:12] <barto-kun> SysFail: well, it is a GeForce 2
[03:12] <Seveas> just the lists
[03:12] <EvilSporkMan> SysFail: are you using official nvidia drivers or just nv?
[03:12] <tbird> SysFail, are you using nvidia instead of nv in xorg.conf ?
[03:12] <barto-kun> so I wouldn't expect a whole lot from it
[03:12] <Seveas> mahmoud, can you paste your sources.list somewhere?
[03:12] <SysFail> let me check...i think im using nvidia
[03:12] <kash> ok
[03:12] <kash> ok
[03:13] <SysFail> yeah im using nvidia
[03:13] <SysFail> its an old card...maybe 600 is it
[03:13] <SysFail> its still better than the ati 7500 i had in here
[03:14] <goldfish> Just curious, I need to buy en ethernet card for a pc i have hoary on, want to run a server, can anyone recommend a good one that will work with hoary? Or should most new ones do the job?
[03:14] <SysFail> i have glx loaded and dri commented out
[03:14] <plagerism> Yea I get about 300 on my ATI RADEON 9000
[03:14] <plagerism> wtf is 300
[03:14] <tbird> SysFail, sounds right
[03:14] <kash> another question ...  i m trying to install zope/plone since a while but i don't know howcan i do
[03:15] <kash> ...
[03:15] <SysFail> linux hates ati
[03:15] <SysFail> heh
[03:15] <SysFail> that 7500 is a nice windows card though
[03:15] <plagerism> At one point linux was pro ATI and hated nvidia
[03:15] <plagerism> but the tables have turned
[03:15] <tbird> yet ive seen some really nice outputs from ati
[03:16] <LinuxJones> kash, you have to enable the universe repository
[03:16] <plagerism> oh no wait, I am not using fglrx to get 300, I forgot removed them cause dga is all screwey with fglrx
[03:16] <xiaogil> Where is the help page for the restricted formats, i can't find it ?
[03:16] <kash> sorry i m new to linux ?? can u explain
[03:17] <LinuxJones> kash, check this out >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:17] <kash> ok
[03:17] <kash> thanks
[03:17] <mahmoud> Seveas, here's my sources.list :     http://www.millol.com/sources.list.txt
[03:17] <LinuxJones> kash, you should also check out www.ubuntuguide.org it has a ton of great info for new Ubuntu users :)
[03:18] <kash> oki thanks so much
[03:18] <Seveas> mahmoud, that is a normal sources.list weird
[03:19] <Seveas> the archive.ubuntu.com server has no problems now...
[03:19] <LinuxJones> xiaogil, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:19] <mahmoud> The "linux-686-smp" file could be corrupted.
[03:19] <Seveas> shouldn't be
[03:20] <Seveas> mahmoud, apt-get update itself doesn't give problems?
[03:21] <SysFail> wow the GL screensavers are cool
[03:21] <SysFail> never been able to run em before
[03:22] <ringmauer> how to mount /dev/sda7 (EXT3) partion in ubuntu?
[03:23] <mahmoud> Here's the "apt-get update" output:  http://www.millol.com/update.txt
[03:23] <goldfish> Cool, ubuntu server installed worked no problems on this old pc i got ! WOO!
[03:24] <XplOzIon> anyone get this error using ubuntu-geek script? Error: ERROR # 100 : There was an error in msttcorefonts acroread acroread-plugin libdvdcss2 gnomebaker gftp flashplayer-mozilla installation.
[03:24] <XplOzIon> or is it because those has a diff name now??
[03:24] <ringmauer> please help me!!      how to mount /dev/sda7 (EXT3) partion in ubuntu?
[03:25] <tbird> ringmauer,   mount /dev/sda7 dont  work ?
[03:25] <Seveas> ringmauer, mount -t extr /dev/sda7 /your/mountpoint
[03:25] <XplOzIon> ringmauer, sudo mount -t extr /dev/sda7 /Where/You/wantit/
[03:25] <MyKq3> how can i rename on cansole?
[03:26] <Seveas> -t ext3, sorry
[03:26] <MyKq3> terminal
[03:26] <XplOzIon> lmao i made same mistake =/
[03:27] <ringmauer> yes but if i write $ sudo mount dev/sda7 /home/devices/hd1 -t ntfs -o umask =0222
[03:27] <ringmauer> it doesnt work
[03:27] <Seveas> ringmauer, that is for an ntfs disk
[03:27] <XplOzIon> hd1?
[03:27] <Seveas> not an ext3 one
[03:27] <ringmauer> oh sorry ofcourse i write -t ext3 instead
[03:27] <ringmauer> sorry
[03:27] <ringmauer> but it still doesnt work
[03:27] <LinuxJones> MyKq3, you use the mv command (move and rename) it mv test.txt test1.txt
[03:27] <Seveas> ext3 doesn't need the -o umask stuff
[03:28] <Seveas> it doesn't even understand that :)
[03:28] <MyKq3> thanks LinuxJones
[03:28] <LinuxJones> ;)
[03:28] <Xappe> ringmauer: have you created the mountpoint?
[03:28] <ringmauer> okay now it worked whitout the umas
[03:28] <ringmauer> tnx
[03:28] <Xappe> ok
[03:28] <ringmauer> what is the lost+found folder in the ext3 pation=
[03:28] <ringmauer> ?
[03:29] <XplOzIon> =PPP
[03:29] <Seveas> ringmauer, the result of fsck
[03:29] <XplOzIon> lost and found littles childs
[03:29] <ringmauer> can i delete it?
[03:29] <XplOzIon> sure
[03:29] <Seveas> you can but shouldn;t
[03:29] <ringmauer> okay, ill keep it
[03:29] <ringmauer> but it is nothing in it
[03:30] <Seveas> ringmauer, if fsck finds errors in your filesystem, it will store otherwise lost files there
[03:30] <Seveas> so it will recreate it anyway
[03:30] <ringmauer> okay so it doesnt matter if i delete it
[03:30] <bob2> well
[03:30] <bob2> you should check them first
[03:31] <ikaro> mojn
[03:31] <ringmauer> another question, how to defrag the disks in linux?
[03:31] <bob2> you don't
[03:31] <mahmoud> Seveas : Here's the "apt-get update" output:  http://www.millol.com/update.txt and here's the "apt-get install" output : http://www.millol.com/install.txt
[03:31] <bob2> linux filesystems don't really need it
[03:31] <bob2> and none of them have useful defragging tools anyway
[03:32] <bob2> mahmoud: were you complaining about that before?
[03:32] <ringmauer> seveas, I cant write to my newly mounted ext3 partion,, do you know why?
[03:32] <Seveas> ringmauer, because it is owned by root perhaps?
[03:32] <goldfish> how do you change the name of your system?
[03:32] <Seveas> bob2, yes, install error
[03:32] <ringmauer> seveas, i think so, but what should i do to be able to write to it?
[03:33] <Seveas> ringmauer, chown it to your UID
[03:33] <ringmauer> seveas, how? im a beginner
[03:34] <curry_> hello
[03:34] <mahmoud> bob2 : Actuallty it's my first installation. I want the Linux core to support my P4 hyperthreading. I was able to apt-get other programs but not the linux-686-smp
[03:34] <plagerism> ringmauer, I am gonna tell you the most important piece of information you will ever need.  This will make life so much easier. man chown
[03:34] <plagerism> ringmauer, man is your friend
[03:35] <Seveas> mahmoud, weird, i can download it just fine ...
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> mahmoud the smp kernel isnt for HT
[03:35] <Seveas> Kamping_Kaiser, it is
[03:35] <Anlar> actually it is.
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> well it didnt do it
[03:35] <ringmauer> plagerism, yes i know, but i doesnt even know what UID is, and ive really tried to fix it
[03:35] <Anlar> ht is from the kernel perspective 2 cpu smp.
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> no its not. it doesnt work
[03:35] <plagerism> ringmauer, user id
[03:35] <Seveas> Kamping_Kaiser, it does :)
[03:35] <Anlar> you are just out like a snowman.
[03:36] <ringmauer> plagerism, okay and how do i find it
[03:36] <Seveas> ringmauer, what is your username on that system?
[03:36] <ringmauer> seveas, ringmauer
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> seveas :( it didnt for me, so bugger.
[03:36] <Seveas> then do: sudo chown ringmauer /the/mount/point
[03:36] <plagerism> ringmauer UID=ringmauer
[03:36] <curry_> i just upgradet my warthy to hoary, bur now my stime ist half in english and the other half is in german, is there any way to change these setting to german for all. also gnome is 50/50
[03:37] <ringmauer> plagerism, seveas, thanks for your help (i know im a pain in the ass)
[03:37] <Seveas> curry_, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[03:37] <Seveas> ringmauer, you're not :)
[03:37] <plagerism> ringmauer, I was a pain in the ass at one point too!!  I think it supports HT
[03:39] <Seveas> mahmoud, you could try just downloading the .deb files from archive.ubuntu.com and run dpkg -i on them
[03:39] <ringmauer> what whas it i should write?
[03:39] <Seveas> sudo chown ringmauer /the/mount/point
[03:39] <ringmauer> i quitted x-chat by misstake
[03:39] <ringmauer> ok tnx once again
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> the smp kernel works, just there was no second procesor. it defaulited to single cpu mode mahmoud
[03:40] <ringmauer> seveas output is :  sudo: chrown: command not found
[03:40] <Seveas> chown
[03:40] <Seveas> not chrown
[03:40] <Seveas> :)
[03:41] <ringmauer> ok ,, thnx,
[03:41] <bob2> Kamping_Kaiser: right, the single cpu kernel will work fine on dual systems, but only one cpu will be visible
[03:41] <mahmoud> Kamping_Kaiser, I'm sure I saw 2cpus in the System Monitor
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> bob2, what we are dealing with is a SMP kernel on a HT system, and HT counts as one cpu (at least for me)
[03:42] <bob2> perhaps you need some magic apic options or something
[03:42] <Seveas> Kamping_Kaiser, not for the kernel :)
[03:42] <drcodedd2> Hi all
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> well ill try smp under breezy, but it didnt happen under hoary
[03:42] <bob2> Kamping_Kaiser: it should work on any version
[03:42] <ringmauer> seveas, thank you very much, now it works
[03:43] <drcodedd2> If I chose to install server mode , the SSHD load automticly?
[03:43] <bob2> Kamping_Kaiser: you're checking the output of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo', right?
[03:43] <drcodedd2> or I need manualy to setup it?
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> i dont have an smp kernel atm, or i would check agin
[03:43] <mahmoud> Seveas, I don't know witch dependencies i need. apt-get can install them at once if i'm right
[03:44] <curry_> Seveas : that does not work, the gnome title is in english the menue in german for example
[03:44] <liable> drcodedd2: netstat will tell you if sshd is running
[03:45] <alexx__> hi, I've installed hoary but doesn't mount my usb key. I can prin't with the usb printer only if I boot the pc afer swich on the printer why?
[03:45] <enplo> can i install alioth's mono 1.1.6 packages for debian in ubuntu hoary?
[03:45] <drcodedd2> thanx
[03:45] <drcodedd2> I will check it
[03:46] <Dalkus> enplo,  you mean through apt?
[03:46] <Mr_T> alexx__, plug it in and type 'lsusb' into a terminal
[03:46] <alexx__> Mr_T, I've no answer...
[03:47] <promethe> As anyone got good Tiger or Panther-like theme for GNOME? On gnome-look there aren't good versions :|
[03:47] <drcodedd2> ssh didnt loca
[03:47] <drcodedd2> loca
[03:47] <drcodedd2> load
[03:47] <drcodedd2> how I can load sshd
[03:47] <drcodedd2> I have the install CD
[03:47] <enplo> Dalkus: yes
[03:47] <alexx__> Mr_T, not else the prompt
[03:47] <Mr_T> alexx__, try "sudo apt-get install usbutils"
[03:48] <liable> drcodedd2: apt-get install ssh
[03:48] <enplo> Dalkus: I know how to add sources etc, i just don't know if they're compatible
[03:48] <Dalkus> enplo, look at see? You can check synaptic, or if you want to use the commandline: "sudo apt-cache search blah" to search for a package
[03:48] <drcodedd2> I dont have internet there
[03:48] <Mr_T> also "modprobe usbcore"
[03:48] <drcodedd2> its in local lan
[03:48] <drcodedd2> I have the Ubnuto cd
[03:48] <drcodedd2> cdrom
[03:48] <liable> drcodedd2: yes, you can install it from cd
[03:49] <drcodedd2> thanx
[03:49] <Mr_T> drcodedd2, have a look in synaptic package manager#
[03:49] <drcodedd2> I will try it
[03:49] <drcodedd2> I install server mode
[03:49] <drcodedd2> I dont want to run XSERVER
[03:49] <Mr_T> alexx__, any luck?
[03:49] <alexx__> Mr_T, I've do both but nothing is change
[03:49] <drcodedd2> synaptic work on;y in xerver env
[03:49] <Mr_T> hmm
[03:49] <plagerism> Okay attempting to downgrade back to hoary!! Wish me luck!!
[03:49] <liable> drcodedd2: what does your /etc/apt/sources.list have in it
[03:50] <drcodedd2> I dont know
[03:50] <drcodedd2> I on;y install from the cd
[03:50] <enplo> Dalkus, well, ubuntu's repos only have stable mono releases and i need 1.1.6
[03:50] <drcodedd2> I can tell source.list to look in cdrom?
[03:50] <Mr_T> alexx__, does the key have any lights and do they come on at all?
[03:50] <drcodedd2> or apt-get know to go to cdrom
[03:50] <Dalkus> then you'll have to search the internet for it. I would advise looking for a .deb file
[03:50] <Dalkus> then use dpkg -i filename.deb to install
[03:51] <drcodedd2> dalk: I have the ubnuto cdrom
[03:51] <liable> drcodedd2: 'apt-setup' point it to cd
[03:51] <Mr_T> drcodedd2, easiest way to tell it to check CD is to go to system>administration>ubuntu update manager
[03:51] <drcodedd2> k
[03:51] <drcodedd2> thanx
[03:51] <Mr_T> click preferences
[03:51] <drcodedd2> I will go to ehck it
[03:51] <Mr_T> and tick the CD
[03:51] <drcodedd2> thanx
[03:51] <alexx__> Mr_T, yes it make a light when plugged in but afer nothing else
[03:51] <enplo> ok thanks
[03:51] <Dalkus> drcodedd2, I was talking to enplo :)
[03:51] <Dalkus> np
[03:52] <Mr_T> alexx__, ok, try "sudo apt-get install libusb-0.1-4"
[03:52] <alexx__> Mr_T, libusb-0.1-4 is already the newest version.
[03:53] <Mr_T> hmm ok
[03:53] <Mr_T> those are the only usb packages I have installed and mine works
[03:53] <Mr_T> one sec
[03:54] <abelli> hi there
[03:55] <Kartagis> does anyone have any idea why wi
[03:56] <zenwhen> wi wat
[03:56] <Kartagis> does anyone have any idea why either rhythmbox or dc++ doesn't add directories recursively
[03:56] <beezly> Kartagis: rhythmbox does
[03:56] <Kartagis> sorry zenwhen, hit enter by accident
[03:56] <alexx__> Mr_T, can be grub the problem?
[03:56] <Mr_T> can anyone tell alexx__ the command to mount USB
[03:57] <zenwhen> I hate rhythmbox so badly. it crashes trying to import my music.
[03:57] <zenwhen> I use mpd.
[03:57] <Mr_T> trying to find my usb cable to plug in my mp3 player and see what it shows up as
[03:57] <Mr_T> but having no luck
[03:57] <Mr_T> I did however find a welsh dictionary under my desk
[03:57] <Kartagis> beezly: nope, I have over 3000 files and rhythmbox added only 1172 (the main folder)
[03:58] <alexx__> Mr_T, I havn't device sda so I can't mout it with mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[03:58] <beezly> Kartagis: I have over 7000 and it worked :)
[03:59] <beezly> Kartagis: do you have a mix of mp3's and other files?
[03:59] <abelli> does someone have problems with esd and alsa/oss?
[03:59] <Kartagis> beezly: nope, they are all mp3s
[03:59] <liable> alexx__: what does 'dmesg | tail' show when you plug it in
[03:59] <sixtir> hi all, I know I should rtfm but I'm in a hurry so could someone please tell me how to install k3b with dvd support?
[03:59] <skora> Abelli, yup I do i too
[04:00] <skora> after I upgrading to hoary from warty
[04:00] <skora> I was able to ask that question in here ^_^
[04:00] <alexx__> apm: overridden by ACPI.
[04:00] <alexx__> ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team
[04:00] <alexx__> eth1: no IPv6 routers present
[04:00] <alexx__> usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 2
[04:00] <alexx__> usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
[04:00] <alexx__> ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: Unlink after no-IRQ?  Different ACPI or APIC settings may help.
[04:00] <alexx__> SCSI subsystem initialized
[04:00] <alexx__> Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[04:00] <alexx__> usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
[04:00] <alexx__> USB Mass Storage support registered.
[04:00] <beezly> sixtir: #kubuntu would be a better place to ask?
[04:00] <abelli> skora: did you resolve it anyway?
[04:00] <Kartagis> abelli: I was told that totem not sync'ing video with audio was an esd problem
[04:00] <sixtir> ok beezly thx
[04:00] <skora> abelli, nope :(
[04:00] <skora> skora, nah.
[04:01] <beezly> sixtir: np
[04:01] <liable> alexx__: run it again
[04:01] <dockane> installed streamtuner and vlc. then added vlc as the player in streamtuner. vlc says "oss error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)". what went wrong ?
[04:01] <liable> alexx__: the dmesg bit
[04:01] <scottj> when I bootup not connected to the internet it takes forever for the finding network connections to time out. is there a way to do that quicker?
[04:01] <abelli> skora: because here they say that is a problem of gnome libraries if i understand correctly http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/02/msg00981.html
[04:01] <alexx__> liable, but if it isn't plugged do the same answer
[04:02] <liable> alexx__: ?? english
[04:02] <scottj> also, my laptop crashes usually after about five minutes when I disconnect it from AC power--I think the power settings in linux must be messed up somehow, anyone had this problem or know maybe what to do?
[04:02] <skora> abelli, thanks, I checked that out....so I should use helix player instead ?
[04:03] <alexx__> liable, sorry I wold tell you that dmesg | tail tell me the same thing if I plug the usb key or not
[04:03] <Mr_T> scottj, search the ubuntu site for your laptop name/model
[04:03] <Mr_T> see if anyone else has that problem
[04:03] <abelli> skora: dont really know .. but how can we call it free software if we're not able to use xmms :)
[04:03] <plagerism> Okay downgrading seems less painful than I was expecting it to be.  That scares me
[04:04] <Mr_T> skora, use beep media player
[04:04] <jin> anyone here using linuxdcpp?
[04:04] <skora> Mr_T, ill install that.
[04:04] <Mr_T> woah, jtn, yo
[04:04] <Mr_T> oh wait
[04:04] <Mr_T> sorry
[04:05] <skora> xmms freezes when I play mp3s, but I can't find it listed on top
[04:05] <skora> [the cmd]
[04:05] <wdh> killall xmms
[04:05] <wdh> :P
[04:05] <wdh> or 'ps -u skora'
[04:06] <scottj> Mr_T, nice, found it. how do I disable laptop-mode ?
[04:06] <wdh> top doesnt list _all_ processes.. it lists the top X of processes.. hence the name
[04:06] <Mr_T> eerm, one sec
[04:06] <SysFail> ps -aux
[04:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> how do you get the end of a file? like cat, but just the end
[04:08] <wdh> tail file
[04:08] <steve_> Kamping: you can use tail
[04:08] <plagerism> downgrading was painless, I had to do Zero Fiddling
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks
[04:08] <jin> does anyone know how to run linuxdcpp it with active mode?
[04:08] <skora> asta !
[04:09] <steve_> will give you the last 10 lines by default
[04:09] <Mr_T> I can't remember where I saw the option to change laptop-mode to normal
[04:11] <drummer87> anyone here use a dlink wireless pci card dwl-g520+? or one with acx111 chip?
[04:11] <dockane> alsa = works. oss = doesnt work
[04:11] <drummer87> (or any brand with acx111)
[04:12] <dockane> oss error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
[04:12] <Quinn_Storm> though this is likely not what you're talking about, I've had the most luck using alsa & then setting "simple" apps (like 'play one .wav file') to play to the oss-emulation (using an emu10k1 card, sb-live value)
[04:13] <^vir^> does a media library exist for xmms as i like the look of it but it isn't half as good as rythembox ?
[04:14] <skora> just a playlist editor
[04:14] <dockane> what should i do to get vlc's sound  working ?
[04:15] <Quinn_Storm> dockane: it sounds like you have a single-open sound card and you are running esd.  is that right? (do pgrep esd and see if anything comes up)
[04:15] <xxenon> Im recompiling a kernel from the linux-source-2.6.10 package. How to do I generate the initrd as well ?
[04:15] <robertj> xxenon: are you using dpkg?
[04:15] <dockane> Quinn_Storm, yes the pid returns
[04:15] <xxenon> robertj - no.
[04:16] <Quinn_Storm> dockane: then try killall esd before you run vlc
[04:16] <robertj> have you read up on make-kpkg?
[04:16] <xxenon> robertj - no
[04:16] <scottj> ^vir^, not sure,  but I've heard imms is pretty sweet. it's a plugin for xmms that analyzes what you like and how and when and makes decisions for you..the only reason I don't use it is I hate xmms' looks but prefer rhythmbox's UI :)
[04:16] <robertj> xxenon: that's probably what you should do
[04:16] <xxenon> robertj - url ?
[04:16] <liable> xxenon: apt-get install kernel-package
[04:17] <xxenon> done
[04:17] <robertj> http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html
[04:17] <mahmoud> Everybody here have different opinions about P4 HT. Is the linux-686-smp the right kernel for it? What do you think?
[04:17] <xxenon> thx
[04:17] <scottj> so anyone know how to disable laptop-mode?
[04:17] <liable> xxenon: read a howto compile kernels debian way
[04:17] <skora> hmmm I'm wondering, how to fix the xmms, since I have no probs using xine
[04:18] <srbaker> yo
[04:18] <liable> scottj: just remove it or /etc/init.d/laptop-mode stop
[04:18] <srbaker> i have  tv tuner, and tuner type is set to -1
[04:18] <srbaker> is there a gui way to change that setting?
[04:18] <raydogg> why would /dev/sda1 not mount in fstab, but works when i use the mount command?
[04:18] <^vir^> thank you scottj  for your helpful answer
[04:18] <mjr> does softsusp work for anyone with amd64, incidentally?
[04:19] <scottj> liable, what will I lose w/o laptop-mode? the wiki said that would fix my laptop crashing when on battery power, but will that get rid of something I need for laptops, like cpu scaling or better battery power?
[04:19] <ringmauer> what should i write if i want to mount somethig so that i can see it in computer+
[04:19] <ringmauer> =
[04:19] <ringmauer> ?
[04:19] <scottj> liable, like screen dimming on battery power or something
[04:20] <scottj> ^vir^, is that sarcastic? sorry dude, I don't know about a media library but thought I'd share something (imms) that I thought looked cool, since you use xmms
[04:20] <liable> scottj: no, it basically just spins down your hdd, and can scale your cpu if cpufreqd is set up prperly
[04:20] <herjan> hello do somebody know somthing about ubuntu?
[04:20] <herjan> hallo??
[04:20] <webtoe> We all know a little about ubuntu,
[04:21] <^vir^> nah i wasn't being sarcastic i was actually quite interested in what you said
[04:21] <herjan> o right....
[04:21] <robertj> ring: mount it to /media/something
[04:21] <herjan> i wanna install something
[04:21] <webtoe> what do you want to install
[04:21] <liable> scottj: what does your lappie do when it crashes
[04:21] <camcorder> yeah I know some thing about it, isn't it the channel we're in?
[04:21] <herjan> some package you know. it's my first day with ubuntu
[04:21] <mahmoud> ringmauer: mount /etc/your_device /mnt/your_directory
[04:21] <webtoe> along the top of the screen
[04:21] <webtoe> go to System
[04:21] <herjan> can i go prive with you?
[04:21] <webtoe> then administration
[04:21] <webtoe> yes you can herjan
[04:21] <scottj> liable, it actually just stalls. it's a T40, and apparently I don't have /etc/init.d/laptop-mode
[04:22] <liable> scottj: cat '/etc/init.d' look for laptop modish script
[04:22] <scottj> liable, I thought it might have been the hard drive spinning down and not spinning up again. I changed the interval to never in the BIOS but maybe linux doesn't read that cause it still crashes
[04:23] <liable> scottj: you have acpi or apm enabled
[04:23] <scottj> liable, laptop-net?
[04:23] <liable> scottj: no
[04:23] <scottj> liable, I'm not sure..
[04:24] <scottj> liable, how do I check whether acpi or apm? definitely no script in init.d named laptop something. I do have laptop-mode package installed
[04:24] <liable> scottj: dpkg -L apmd
[04:25] <scottj> well, it's installed, but doesn't it come installed on ubuntu by default?
[04:25] <liable> scottj: apmd is installed?
[04:25] <scottj> yeah
[04:25] <scottj> but I don't know if it's running
[04:26] <liable> scottj: apt-get remove --purge apmd
[04:26] <liable> scottj: apt-get install acpid
[04:26] <WeirdAl> How can I make the Firefox Flash plugin use alsa?
[04:26] <scottj> alright, both were installed. I think apmd got installed by ubuntu-desktop
[04:26] <WeirdAl> Oh! And how come I don't have a  symbol in Open Office's Arial font?
[04:27] <jin> how come I cant use alsa? I have to set to esd to have sound?
[04:27] <scottj> liable, anything else I should know before I pull this off AC and test it?
[04:27] <xxenon> robertj - I followed the document..still...I have no initrd.
[04:27] <liable> scottj: my bad, 'ls /etc/init.d'    laptop-mode?
[04:28] <Quinn_Storm> jin: that's b/c you're using a single-open audio device, and ubuntu uses esd by default
[04:28] <scottj> liable, yeah, I saw the error..nope, nothing there
[04:29] <liable> scottj: well, apt-get install laptop-mode-tools
[04:29] <scottj> liable, /etc/power/event.d/laptop-mode ?
[04:29] <robertj> you built the kernel along with --initrd it should work
[04:29] <elcu> i just upgraded from the 386 kernel to 686.  i can't tell any difference.
[04:30] <dantheman> is it possible to install programs from .rpm's on ubuntu?
[04:30] <liable> scottj: when you say you have laptop-mode installed, its a kernel thing your reffering too?
[04:30] <hypno> elcu lol, what did you expect?
[04:30] <jin> dantheman: use alien
[04:30] <dantheman> does it come with ubuntu, or do i have to get it?
[04:31] <elcu> dantheman: yes, use alien to convert it to .deb and then use dpkg.  you probably have to d'load it
[04:31] <^vir^> alien is installed with ubuntu
[04:31] <elcu> hypno: :)  well, someone was saying how they noticed slightly better performance.
[04:31] <jin> how can I play files that require tscc codecs on ubuntu? where Can I get that?
[04:31] <Raskall> hmm.. my laptop (pentium 4M - 2GHz) shuts down when it reaches 95 degrees celsius. Is it risky to raise this limit and if not, where do I change it?
[04:32] <wezzer> aiee
[04:32] <wezzer> 95 degrees celsius is bit much
[04:32] <ringmauer> mahmoud, so if i mount in mnt the device will be seen in computer
[04:32] <zenwhen> Raskall, I would rma it
[04:32] <Raskall> zenwhen: rma?
[04:33] <^vir^> /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/src': File exists /bin/ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/src/linux' to `': No such file or directory Can't find the kernel sources. Please, install them and run this program. <--- i've used get apt-get install  linux-headers then the kernel build what could be wrong do you reckon?
[04:33] <Raskall> wezzer: only gets that way with high disk- and graphics load.
[04:33] <Raskall> it just shut down when my daughter had finally collected enough herrings in a race she had struggled with for some time. :)
[04:34] <liable> scottj: you dont use your eth0 for internet?
[04:34] <Raskall> zenwhen: what does rma mean?
[04:34] <zenwhen> send it back to whereever you got it
[04:34] <zenwhen> that should never happen
[04:34] <elcu> ^vir^: you need to install the kernel-source package that matches your current kernel.
[04:35] <Raskall> zenwhen: I got it for free from my previous employer. They told me to just keep it when I left. :)
[04:35] <herjan> hello i need somebody who can halp me with ubuntu. with installing files?? who can help me?
[04:35] <jin> anyone? tscc codecs for ubuntu?
[04:36] <scottj> liable, I do use eth0 for internet. laptop-mode installed means the debian package is installed
[04:36] <elcu> herjan: just ask your question.
[04:36] <herjan> i wanna know how i can install some programs
[04:36] <^vir^> herjan, you can use apt-get install
[04:36] <Raskall> zenwhen: I guess I will call my hardware-pusher and ask if he can get me som kind of cooling extension.
[04:36] <^vir^> herjan,  many ways exist
[04:36] <herjan> what's the best way?
[04:37] <elcu> herjan: synaptic is the easiest.
[04:37] <scottj> liable, I installed laptop-mode-tools, and now have init.d/laptop-mode, and I pulled out the AC now that I'm not runing apmd (and when I installed laptop-mode-tools it said it was starting) and I guess we'll see how long before this system stalls
[04:37] <herjan> o right elcu
[04:37] <herjan> i have start the program now.
[04:37] <elcu> herjan: check out ubuntuguide.org first to see how you add repositories
[04:37] <liable> scottj: you installed laptop-mode-tools?
[04:38] <scottj> liable, yeah
[04:38] <herjan> thank you elcu
[04:38] <elcu> np
[04:38] <scottj> liable, but actually the wiki said to remove laptop-mode, but since it wasn't running I figured I'll give it a try
[04:38] <liable> scottj: now look in /var/log/acpi and see what happened when you pulled ac
[04:39] <liable> scottj: if you have apmd and acpid running, they tend to fuck things up
[04:39] <srbaker> so where should i put the default options for bttv?
[04:39] <srbaker> in /etc/modutils/bttv ?
[04:39] <Raskall> hmm.. laptop-mode-tools wasnt installed. maybe those will let me configure things to not get so hot?
[04:39] <dantheman> does anyone here use gnome gtray?
[04:40] <liable> srbaker: in its .conf file?
[04:40] <herjan> hello. how can i listen to mp3 and wav files??
[04:41] <liable> Raskall: maybe cpu scaling will help for that
[04:41] <herjan> what's the best program to listen to music?
[04:41] <Raskall> liable: it does cpu-scaling, but I cant configure the cpu to go below 60% of some reason.
[04:41] <srbaker> liable, bttv is a kernel module
[04:42] <raydogg> how do I configure a software raid system after I've installed ubuntu ?
[04:42] <scott_> liable: yeah, laptop stalled again
[04:42] <^vir^> rythembox & xmms are your best bet herjan
[04:42] <herjan> thank you wir
[04:42] <^vir^> xmms is very skinable, has alot of plugins & looks like winamp 2
[04:42] <elcu> herjan: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[04:42] <liable> Raskall: look in your cpufreqd conf if you use it, myabe using performance governor
[04:43] <gnuts> hello all, i've got an ndiswrapper Q. compiled 1.2rc1 from source, installed driver, light comes on, net applet detects networs but i can't get connected to any
[04:43] <herjan> o right
[04:43] <liable> scott_: whats the logs say
[04:43] <aimaz> raydogg: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html
[04:43] <Raskall> liable: will do. :) thanks for the pointer. I have been looking for gui-config for cpufreq
[04:43] <gnuts> iwcofig gives:Warning: Driver for device wlan0 recommend version 18 of Wireless Extension,but has been compiled with version 17, therefore some driver features
[04:43] <gnuts> may not be available
[04:44] <^vir^> herjan, just check that site elcu  pasted its a decent site it will tell you how to set up your box so you can watch films & all sorts
[04:44] <liable> srbaker: /usr/share/doc/bttv? have a look there maybe
[04:44] <raydogg> thx aimaz
[04:45] <liable> Raskall: dunno if it exists, speedstep processor?
[04:45] <scott_> liable, doesn't appear to show anything right before the crash
[04:45] <liable> scott_: the acpi logs?
[04:45] <scott_> liable: yeah
[04:45] <liable> scott_: what about syslog?
[04:46] <scott_> acpid  says stuff 10 minutes before but that's it
[04:46] <elcu> jin: try installing mplayer or the mplayer codecs.  it supports tscc.
[04:46] <Raskall> liable: it seems i only have the gnome-applet for cpufreq installed and not the cpufreqd itself. Might explain a thing or two. :)
[04:46] <liable> scott_: you removed apmd?
[04:46] <elcu> jin: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/codecs-status.html
[04:46] <^vir^> if i 'm using kernel <IP_ADDRESS> do i just need the source for 2.6.10?
[04:47] <liable> Raskall: if you compile your own kernel, ondemand gov, works sweet, but its disabled by default and has to be built in
[04:47] <Raskall> liable: thanks. you might have saved my (computers) life. :)
[04:48] <Raskall> eww... the baby on my chest is making disgusting noises..
[04:48] <elcu> ^vir^: yes.  i think so.
[04:48] <markuman> where are the gamers? went to #ubuntu-gaming ;-)
[04:49] <liable> scott_: lsmod, are there any acpi modules loaded?
[04:49] <herjan> i'm now in synaptic and i have download a tar file from the internet. is it ok?
[04:49] <scott_> liable: ibm_acpi, pcc_acpi, sony_acpi
[04:49] <^vir^> what ever you do don't upgrade to 2.6.7 using apt-get it will crash on load i learnt that the other night :(
[04:50] <drcoded> Hi all
[04:50] <drcoded> whats up
[04:50] <liable> scott_: you removed apmd?
[04:50] <drcoded> I am back with my ubntu server
[04:50] <drcoded> I need some help
[04:50] <scott_> liable, I did apt-get remove apmd, yes
[04:50] <drcoded> I have two computer A and B , I want to use ubntu server as gateway
[04:50] <liable> scott_: sony-acpi??????
[04:50] <elcu> herjan: synaptic lets you install packages in .deb format.  if you've got a tar file, you are "installing from source" and need to follow the instructions that are usually included.  you cannot use synaptic to install via tart files.
[04:51] <liable> scott_: rmmod sony-acpi
[04:51] <drcoded> so it will take the packet from computer B and will forward it to Internet
[04:51] <elcu> s/tart/tar :P
[04:51] <herjan> o right
[04:51] <drcoded> what I need to setyp
[04:51] <drcoded> up
[04:51] <liable> scott_: blacklist it in hotplug and discover
[04:51] <webtoe> drcoded: iptables and NAT routing
[04:51] <scott_> liable, how do I do that?
[04:51] <blk> is it possible to lookup the ip of a linux-host in the local network using the hostname? there's no samba installed so nmblookup won't do, nor are both PCs in a domain
[04:51] <drcoded> well I am realy newbie
[04:52] <drcoded> I need to install iptable and nat?
[04:52] <drcoded> or I can do command line
[04:52] <Xappe> drcoded: shorewall will do that for you
[04:52] <SysFail> turning that into a router is pretty complicated for a newbie
[04:52] <drcoded> what is shorewall?
[04:52] <liable> scott_: discover.conf 'skip sony_acpi'
[04:53] <elcu> herjan: if possible, you should always install via synaptic (or apt-get if you like commands).  it's *much* easier and you'll run into less trouble.
[04:53] <Xappe> drcoded: a frontend for iptables
[04:53] <SysFail> I use IPCop
[04:53] <liable> scott_: hotplug has a blacklist file
[04:53] <drcoded> I can install it with apt-get?
[04:53] <SysFail> its easy
[04:53] <green_earz> drcoded: have a look at shorewall to setup a gateway
[04:53] <drcoded> K
[04:53] <drcoded> I install it
[04:53] <gnuts> hi, I need a little noob help too
[04:53] <liable> scott_: rmmod it, and unplug ac, see what happens
[04:54] <elcu> gnuts: what's your question?
[04:54] <drcoded> k
[04:54] <drcoded> I have intstall it , now I need to edit it
[04:54] <Valentin-> is it possible to create a new categorie under applications?
[04:54] <gnuts> i've got an ndiswrapper Q. compiled 1.2rc1 from source, installed driver, light comes on, net applet detects networs but i can't get connected to any
[04:54] <gnuts> iwcofig gives:Warning: Driver for device wlan0 recommend version 18 of Wireless Extension,but has been compiled with version 17, therefore some driver features
[04:54] <gnuts> may not be available
[04:55] <drcoded> how I start shoewall?
[04:56] <liable> scott_: pcc-acpi too, dont know why the hell they are loaded in the first place
[04:56] <SysFail> you mean...how do I google shorewall i think
[04:56] <SysFail> heh
[04:56] <whiteknight> gnuts, why didn't you use the ubuntu binary?
[04:56] <gnuts> tried it with no success, tried a couple of times
[04:56] <drcoded> I config it
[04:56] <drcoded> I on;y want to start it
[04:56] <liable> scott_: t42 you say?
[04:56] <green_earz> drcoded: have a read of its doc and gateway box is quite a job
[04:56] <whiteknight> gnuts, basically ubuntu's wireless extension is v17
[04:56] <SysFail> type shore <tab> <tab>
[04:57] <SysFail> see what comes up
[04:57] <gnuts> thought it may have been my fault. I could start over again
[04:57] <SysFail> but IPCop would be 100 times easier
[04:57] <whiteknight> gnuts, i recommend you use the ndiswrapper that ubuntu supply
[04:57] <gnuts> ok, so completely remove it all and start over?
[04:58] <whiteknight> gnuts, it is compiled specially for the kernel and you would avoid these sorts of problems
[04:58] <drcoded> thanx
[04:58] <drcoded> I will check it
[04:58] <whiteknight> gnuts, no, just apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[04:58] <gnuts> oh, i did that, just the ndiswrapper source from tar
[04:59] <green_earz> drcoded: and check out > http://www.shorewall.net/
[05:00] <sorin> hi
[05:00] <sorin> how do i tell grub to load the menu instead of the command line?
[05:00] <whiteknight> gnuts, hoary or warty?
[05:00] <sorin> grub displays the grub prompt instead of the menu
[05:00] <gnuts> whiteknight, hoary
[05:00] <liable> sorin: you need to apt-get install gdm
[05:01] <sorin> i can load it with the configfile command
[05:01] <whiteknight> gnuts, so let me get this straight you are using the prerelease 1.2-rc1
[05:01] <whiteknight> gnuts, i recommend you use the stable 1.1 version firstly
[05:01] <sorin> what does grub have to do with gdm?
[05:01] <liable> sorin: you can actually boot the system?
[05:01] <gnuts> whiteknight, of the ndiswrapper-source, yes
[05:02] <gnuts> got n-utils using synaptic
[05:02] <liable> sorin: reinstall grub pointing it to the right partition
[05:03] <sorin> its installed
[05:03] <sorin> and i can boot
[05:03] <gnuts> whiteknight,ok, so remove all the ndiswrapper stuff and reinstll using synaptic?
[05:03] <whiteknight> gnuts, yup
[05:03] <sorin> i had to reinstall it since windows overwrote it
[05:03] <decon> anyone have the new mplayer pre7 wokring in ubuntu 5.04?
[05:04] <sorin> but dow do i make it load the menu by default instead of the command line
[05:04] <green_earz> sorin: here the grub manual its could be use full > http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Device%20map
[05:04] <liable> sorin: so, rerun grub, and point it to the right partition
[05:04] <sorin> i can load it with the configfile
[05:04] <sorin> it points to the right partition
[05:04] <gnuts> whiteknight, can you tell me a short and easy way to remove it all?
[05:05] <whiteknight> gnuts, what exactly do you want to remove?
[05:05] <herjan> i have download a game in deb file. how can i install him?
[05:05] <whiteknight> gnuts, if you compiled something, then run make uninstall in the source directory
[05:05] <whiteknight> gnuts, and then rm -r directory
[05:05] <gnuts> whiteknight, well, what do i need to remove to start over?
[05:06] <whiteknight> gnuts, if you have used synaptic then don't worry, it'll have overwritten it
[05:06] <herjan> i have download a game in deb file. how can i install him?
[05:06] <elcu> herjan: dpkg -i <filename>
[05:06] <herjan> thnx
[05:06] <whiteknight> gnuts, to check, try in the console/terminal ndiswrapper --version
[05:06] <knapjack> /part
[05:06] <gnuts> whitknight, wil it overwrite the 1.2rc1 version i compiled from source?
[05:07] <whiteknight> gnuts, yeah it should od
[05:07] <whiteknight> gnuts, *do
[05:07] <whiteknight> gnuts, check with ndiswrapper --version
[05:07] <whiteknight> gnuts, oh this should help http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[05:07] <EddieX> Anyone using anjuta here?
[05:07] <gnuts> whiteknight, ok, thanks a bunch i'm gonna go give it a shot.
[05:07] <whiteknight> gnuts, though don't do the compiling from source bit, the binaries are much better
[05:07] <whiteknight> gnuts, no worries
[05:08] <herjan> elcu can i go prive with you?
[05:09] <elcu> sure
[05:10] <tsume_> so.. does ubuntu work well on servers?
[05:10] <decon> Does anyone know how to Mount .cue files in linux ???
[05:10] <herjan> elcu i must typ it in that alt-F2 window?
[05:11] <tsume_> decon: you don't mount cue files
[05:11] <decon> tsume_, what do I do then ?
[05:11] <tsume_> decon: google for.. I think.. "cue bin linux convert"
[05:11] <elcu> eh?
[05:11] <tsume_> decon: you must convert the bin and cue first I think.
[05:11] <decon> tsume_, hmm :-/
[05:11] <tsume_> I usually convert them to ISO first
[05:12] <Jimmothy-> i hear people go for debian stable and freebsd for servers, but i don't know much