[00:07] <snap-l> EVening. :)
[13:35] <rick_h_> morning
[13:35] <rick_h_> everyone dug out?
[13:37] <brousch> mostly
[14:35] <brousch> rick_h_: Wow, it loos like you got 2-3x more snow than we did
[14:35] <brousch> Usually we get more
[14:37] <snap-l> brake repair woo woo
[14:42] <jjesse> i live on top of a hill and it hasn't been plowed yet
[14:43] <jjesse> working from home so i don't slide into the main street like I saw someone else do
[14:45] <brousch> Heh
[14:45] <brousch> I saw someone walk slide just short of Chicago Drive last night
[14:45] <brousch> Someone who was walking
[15:38] <rick_h_droid> brousch about 5 or 6 inches
[17:34] <snap-l> Howdy.
[17:35] <snap-l> http://www.dadhacker.com/blog/?p=1843
[17:37] <snap-l> http://www.dadhacker.com/blog/?p=1849
[19:45] <dzho> people need to remember to turn off comments on their "About" pages and such.
[19:46] <dzho> turn off comments, or monitor your damn wordpress instance for spam
[19:46] <dzho>   www.dadhacker.com/blog/?page_id=1348
[22:23] <snap-l> Yeah, no kidding
[22:23] <snap-l> I think lococast has comments enabled on our contact page.
[22:25] <rick_h_> ?
[22:25] <rick_h_> I didn't know we had a contact page :/
[22:41] <snap-l> rick_h_: It might have been our about page too
[22:41] <snap-l> http://lococast.net/about
[23:01] <snap-l> OMC is on http://metalinjection.fm


[01:01] <AxD09> Trying to uninstall chromium from the 11.10 Beta 2 and it insists that I install firefox in its place. Really?
[02:00] <rawfodog> hey guys. fresh install, first time user. How do I get a brightness applet on my panel ?
[02:29] <toi> Does lubuntu have a dock that doesn't use compiz ?
[02:30] <toi> And that is transparent/and or simple
[03:22] <kimmy_x_99> hi guys
[03:22] <kimmy_x_99> new to lubuntu
[03:23] <kimmy_x_99> what are the minimum requirements please
[03:24] <jmarsden> If you are willing to use the alternate installer and create a swap partition first, a Pentium II, 128MB RAM, and around 4GB hard drive space.  But that's not likely to be a very enjoyable general purpose machine...
[03:25] <kimmy_x_99> i have an old laptop, 512 MB memory
[03:25] <kimmy_x_99> 10 Gb free space
[03:26] <jmarsden> That sounds likely to be fine... what CPU?
[03:26] <kimmy_x_99> 1.2 GHZ
[03:26] <kimmy_x_99> intel
[03:26] <kimmy_x_99> celeron
[03:27] <kimmy_x_99> it runs XP prof @ the moment
[03:27] <jmarsden> No problem there.  You should be good with that level of hardware.
[03:28] <kimmy_x_99> thanks alot
[03:29] <jmarsden> You're welcome.  You can probably try it out by booting from the Lubuntu CDROM using the "Try it first" menu item, if you want to get a feel for it before you actually install it.
[03:29] <jmarsden> "Try it without installing" ?  I forget exactly what the menu item says ... something like that :)
[03:30] <kimmy_x_99> great thanks, is there much difference, I want to use it mostly for torrents, will uTorrent work on it
[03:31] <jmarsden> well, it's pretty different to Windows XP :)  There are some torrent programs that run fine in Lubuntu, I'm not an expert on which of them are better than the others...
[03:31] <kimmy_x_99> i've used fedora before
[03:32] <jmarsden> OK.  So the basic ideas of Linux will be the same, the exact look of the GUI and the package management will be different from Fedora, but you should pick it up easily enough; and when you get stuck, as here for help.
[03:32] <jmarsden> *ask here for help.
[03:33] <kimmy_x_99> thanks for  you advice.
[03:34] <jmarsden> No problem.  Have fun with Lubuntu :)
[03:35] <kimmy_x_99> thanks
[14:32] <bioterror> phillw, thank you ;)
[15:18] <usuario_> Hola ¿que tal? necesito un visor para pps/ppt que no sea pesado
[16:02] <leszek> hi
[16:39] <hyper_ch> hello there, I wonder, is Lubuntu the "lightest" official ubuntu variant?
[16:41] <bioterror> yes
[16:42] <hyper_ch> might give it a try then for my backup vm :)
[16:43] <hyper_ch> I wonder if I already should go oneiric
[16:45] <bioterror> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/
[16:45] <hyper_ch> no oneiric iso?
[16:47] <hyper_ch> btw, who can edit the lubuntu help wiki? I just found a small spelling error
[19:34] <silverarrow> can I use any software for debian in lubuntu?
[19:35] <silverarrow> I am looking for a way to have softmaker in my system
[19:35] <m6locks> lubuntu uses ubuntu repo so whatever you can use in ubuntu should work
[19:36] <silverarrow> hmm, I cannot find anything especially for ubuntu either
[19:37] <silverarrow> softmaker has all the features, and much lighter than the other offices
[19:37] <m6locks> never heard of it
[19:37] <m6locks> does it work?
[19:38] <silverarrow> it does
[19:38] <silverarrow> I am trying it in puppy linux
[19:38] <silverarrow> however, I have major printing issues in puppy
[19:38] <m6locks> aye, they hard to conf
[19:39] <silverarrow> yes, it uses CUPS and I am having a hard time with it
[19:39] <silverarrow> I might be able to use drivers directly from hp
[19:39] <silverarrow> hmm
[19:41] <silverarrow> softmaker seems all comparable to the rest of the offices, in every respect
[19:41] <silverarrow> but much lighter and smaller
[19:42] <silverarrow> 2008 version is open and free
[19:42] <silverarrow> I don't mind libre office really
[19:43] <silverarrow> it works fine


[04:18] <mup> Bug #1748010 changed: "Unconfigured" interface in MAAS becomes DHCP interface on deployed node <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1748010>
[09:06] <mup> Bug #1762673 opened: maas insists on running the proxy, even when it's disabled <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762673>
[09:15] <mup> Bug #1762673 changed: maas insists on running the proxy, even when it's disabled <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762673>
[09:18] <mup> Bug #1762673 opened: maas insists on running the proxy, even when it's disabled <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762673>
[13:37] <mup> Bug #1762579 changed: HA region controllers offer different NTP servers <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762579>
[13:37] <mup> Bug #1762673 changed: maas insists on running the proxy, even when it's disabled <cdo-qa> <MAAS:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762673>
[13:46] <mup> Bug #1762673 opened: maas insists on running the proxy, even when it's disabled <cdo-qa> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762673>
[20:24] <bladernr> Hey guys, silly question, but in a MAAS subnet, if I set up a reserved range, say <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>, MAAS WILL NOT issue any IP addresses from that range, correct?
[20:27] <bladernr> also, if that range includes static assigned IPs for BMCs does that mean MAAS can no longer access those BMCs?
[20:27] <bladernr> roaksoax, ^^
[20:28] <bladernr> just trying to figure out why I suddenly can not access either BMC (directly) nor can MAAS.  It coudl be a lab issue though.
[21:20] <mup> Bug #1762836 opened: 2.4 DHCP service not started till system restarted <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762836>
[21:23] <mup> Bug #1762836 changed: 2.4 DHCP service not started till system restarted <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762836>
[22:49] <Hey_> I cna't seem to comission a node.
[22:50] <Hey_> Node says power On


[02:24] <nlsthzn> totsiens
[05:20] <nuvolari> g'morning
[05:27] <kbmonkey> morning!
[05:44] <superfly> morning
[05:53] <nuvolari> :'(
[05:53] <nuvolari> anyone with the same problem:
[05:53] <nuvolari> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libreoffice-common_1%3a3.3.0~rc2-3lucid1_all.deb (--unpack):
[05:53] <nuvolari>  trying to overwrite '/etc/bash_completion.d/ooffice.sh', which is also in package openoffice.org-common 1:3.2.0-7ubuntu4.1
[05:53] <nuvolari> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[05:57] <superfly> nuvolari: you need to tell dpkg to overwrite the file
[05:58] <superfly> something like "dpkg -i  /var/cache/apt/archives/libreoffice-common_1%3a3.3.0~rc2-3lucid1_all.deb --force-overwirte"
[06:33] <sakhi> moonin
[06:37] <nuvolari> superfly: thanks, I got it solved
[06:38] <nuvolari> at last :P
[06:38] <nuvolari> moonin sakhi
[10:40] <Kilos> afternoon superfly and everyone else
[10:40] <superfly> afternoon Kilos
[10:40] <Kilos> can you just verify if this command is right to get permissions on my external please
[10:41] <Kilos> sudo chown -R miles:miles /media/backup
[10:41] <Kilos> i named it backup with gparted
[10:42] <superfly> Kilos: you might want to use /media/backup/* because using just /media/backup will set the owner of the /media/backup directory itself to you
[10:43] <Kilos> oh is that bad
[10:43] <Kilos> but i will do it your way ty very much superfly
[10:45] <superfly> Kilos: well, you might find that gparted complains when you want to unmount it
[10:46] <Kilos> oh ty superfly
[11:34] <kodez> compliments for the new season and a prosperous 2011 for the ubuntu-za family
[11:35] <Kilos> same to you ty kodez
[11:35]  * kodez thanks kilo
[11:37] <Kilos> i have a partition on my harddrive labelled as storage but without a mount point. it shows in places but i cant put anything in it. the permissions bit again
[11:38] <Kilos> i dunno if i must put other mounted partitions first in the chown command
[11:39] <Kilos> and i be bang of chown
[11:42] <deegee> hi kodez
[11:42]  * kodez waving back at deegee
[11:43] <kodez> hello deegee
[14:19] <Kilos> hi perseus
[14:19] <Kilos> you new here
[14:31] <perseus> hi kilos. yes, first time.
[14:31] <perseus> any activity on this channel?
[14:31] <Kilos> now and again but normally when there is someone with a problem
[14:32] <Kilos> or for meetings
[14:32] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[14:32] <perseus> when do you have meetings?
[14:32] <perseus> thanks :)
[14:32] <Kilos> wait we ask maiatoday
[14:32] <Kilos> hi maiatoday you here?
[14:33] <Kilos> perseus, do you need help with anything
[14:33] <perseus> not really, other than asking if anyone tried 10.10 Netbook edition
[14:33] <perseus> and what they think of it
[14:34] <Kilos> there must be quite a few
[14:34] <perseus> but thanks anyway
[14:34] <Kilos> only everyone got the new years job prob
[14:34] <Kilos> work work work
[14:35] <Kilos> drubin, hi you here
[14:35] <Kilos> drubin, is our boss man
[15:36] <inetpro> good afternoon
[15:36] <inetpro> Kilos: hoezit?
[15:37] <superfly> hi inetpro
[15:37] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[15:37] <inetpro> superfly: heh, how you?
[15:37] <superfly> inetpro: hot and sweaty, thanks, and you? have a good holiday?
[15:37]  * inetpro very upset this afternoon
[15:38] <superfly> what's wrong?
[15:38] <inetpro> neighbor has 6 pigs running in a very small pen 30 meters from our living area
[15:38] <inetpro> it stinks liek you won't believe
[15:39] <inetpro> and coming from a farm I should be used to it
[15:39] <superfly> hehe
[15:39] <inetpro> just to damn close
[15:39] <superfly> inetpro: I don't think pigs are normally very stinky, to be honest, so there must be something not right there
[15:39] <superfly> Kilos would know ;-)
[15:40] <inetpro> I've tried several times to get hold of him but I think he's still on holiday
[15:40] <Kilos> kill the pigs
[15:40] <Kilos> hehe
[15:40] <Kilos> and pray for rain
[15:41] <Kilos> its most likely from all the rain we been having
[15:41] <inetpro> yep
[15:41] <Kilos> wet pig dwang no smell lekker
[15:42]  * inetpro can't even get away from teh smell inside the house
[15:42] <Kilos> eish
[15:42] <inetpro> s/teh/the/
[15:43] <Kilos> where do they make theuir droppings inetpro
[15:43] <Kilos> you can cover them with sand and that should help for a while
[15:43] <Kilos> they normally go to same place
[15:44] <Kilos> but each pig might have its own place
[15:44] <Kilos> hehe
[15:44] <inetpro> heh, it's a very small pen part cement and part open ground IIRC
[15:44] <Kilos> with no roof?
[15:44] <inetpro> all 6 together in one pen
[15:44] <inetpro> with a roof
[15:45] <Kilos> can the rain still get in to wet the pen
[15:45] <inetpro> Kilos: yep, but even their water is leaking
[15:45] <Kilos> eish
[15:45] <inetpro> yep, eish
[15:46] <Kilos> those things are normally bred in dry places then the smell not so bad
[15:46] <Kilos> but a layer of sand will help
[15:46] <Kilos> if it doesnt rain anymore
[16:56]  * inetpro happy to have gotten hold of the neighbor who will sort things out with the pigs
[17:03] <drubin> Kilos: Sorry I was out the whole day
[19:39] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight


[13:16] <shane4ubuntu> rye, ok, u1 has made a mess of things for me.  I'm convinced this is tied to the soft link that I have in that folder, it has duplicated that folder over and over again inside itself.
[13:16] <rye> shane4ubuntu, o_O I am all ears about how to reproduce this
[13:17] <shane4ubuntu> rye, I explained my folder structure in the bug, I can tell you the structure here too.
[13:17] <shane4ubuntu> I have a folder with a soft link to another folder, and somehow u1 doesn't like that.
[13:18] <rye> shane4ubuntu, could you please remind me of the bug # ?
[13:18] <shane4ubuntu> I have IglesiaBautistAncla linked to a folder that is one folder up and two deep linked to ../Messages/IglesiaBautistAncla
[13:19] <shane4ubuntu> I have my rsync log too, of exactly what was duplicated, it is pretty incredible
[13:20] <shane4ubuntu> over 2mb of text in the rsync log
[13:20] <shane4ubuntu> getting bug#
[13:21] <shane4ubuntu> Bug #667499
[13:21] <ubot4`> shane4ubuntu: Bug 667499 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/667499 is private
[13:21] <shane4ubuntu> I think I will post the sync log there.
[13:32] <shane4ubuntu> rye, ok updated bug, that is really really odd.
[13:32] <shane4ubuntu> I also removed my soft link, although I have to do that on the laptop too.
[13:33] <rye> shane4ubuntu, under ideal conditions that symlink should be ignored. Testing how to break that
[13:34] <shane4ubuntu> rye, one would think so, but seems something is not quite right there.
[13:34] <shane4ubuntu> perhaps because I have both computers setup very similarly? with sym links?  I'm not a programmer, so I really don't know, but just think that is odd.
[13:35] <shane4ubuntu> laptop has the same problem with alot of duplicated files.
[13:43] <shane4ubuntu> rye, I guess we will see what tomorrow holds, I deleted the symlink and replaced it with a normal folder with all content that was in the symlinked folder, hopefully tomorrow nothing!
[13:45] <rye> shane4ubuntu, ok, created symlink, trying to do something with it
[14:08] <shane4ubuntu> rye, as a side note, it is odd the indicator is reporting that I have 1.8GB, which just yesterday I had 600+MB uploaded, something there isn't right either.
[14:08] <rye> shane4ubuntu, is the gauge showing the proper reading at https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ ?
[14:09] <shane4ubuntu> incredible, no I just checked and now there is only 163MB on the server, lol, that is incredible
[14:09] <shane4ubuntu> rye, somehow the server dumped a bunch of my stuff.
[14:10] <shane4ubuntu> it wasn't deleted on my cpu though, because I would have it in my logs
[14:10] <rye> shane4ubuntu, could you please count the total usage for all ubuntuone-backed folders using du -sh $foldernames ?
[14:11] <rye> btw that's a nice idea for the script, validate that storage online == storage locally
[14:12] <shane4ubuntu> rye, yes, but since my folders have never finished uploading, I haven't got that far yet. :)
[14:13] <shane4ubuntu> du -sh Booklets IglesiaBautistAncla prayerletter Songs
[14:13] <shane4ubuntu> 9.7M	Booklets
[14:13] <shane4ubuntu> 928M	IglesiaBautistAncla
[14:13] <shane4ubuntu> 4.9M	prayerletter
[14:13] <shane4ubuntu> 182M	Songs
[14:13] <shane4ubuntu> I didn't count bin, because I removed that
[14:14] <shane4ubuntu> rye, ^^  I always used du -cah --max-depth=1  folder     ---- -sh was much easier.
[14:17] <rye> shane4ubuntu, so it should be around 1.1Gb
[14:17] <shane4ubuntu> right, basically, yesterday there was 600MB
[14:19] <shane4ubuntu> ok, be back later.
[14:27] <shane4ubuntu> rye, one more quick question, is there a way to recover the 500mb that was uploaded?  I mean I have the docs here, but it is slow uploading
[16:14] <levu> Hi i'm here because of https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+question/130508 and the fact is that i had to run "apt-get install couchdb" after upgrading from lucid to maverick, else the checkboxes for contacts and bookmark sync are greyed in ubuntuone-client-gtk. If i install maverick from the iso there is no problem.
[16:19] <rye> levu, you may want to install desktopcouch and uninstall couchdb. desktopcouch requires couchdb-bin which provides the actual couchdb server. "couchdb" package provides system-wide CouchDB server
[16:21] <levu> rye: yes, i know, but i really have to install "couchdb". It may be ridiculous but it seems like couchdb has to be there... it's reproducible...
[16:21] <rye> levu, hm, do you have 'desktopcouch' installed?
[16:21] <levu> rye: yes
[16:26] <rye> levu, ok, can  /usr/lib/desktopcouch/desktopcouch-service run?
[16:30] <levu> rye: ResourceNotFound: ('db_not_found', 'could not open https://couchdb.one.ubuntu.com/u%2Ff18%2F2ea%2F81043%2Fgwibber_accounts/')
[16:30] <levu> i get many errors like that one, also with other db names
[16:31] <levu> but it doesn't crash
[16:31] <rye> levu, that's ok, since these databases are not yet on the server
[16:33] <levu> rye: ok, i don't know what's the problem since it runs with the couchdb package... i hope that's just a problem with my installation... :)
[22:24] <shane4ubuntu> anyone home?  Is uploading generally such a difficult task?
[22:25] <shane4ubuntu> I have a few large docs (35-40mb) and it seems like it uploads them and then uploads them again?  odd.
[22:28] <duanedesign> shane4ubuntu: so you end up with duplicate files on your other computers?
[22:39] <shane4ubuntu> duanedesign, from the upload you mean?  or are you referring to this AM?
[22:40] <duanedesign> it uploads them and then uploads  them again
[22:41] <shane4ubuntu> oh, I don't think I get dups, let me check
[22:41] <shane4ubuntu> no, at least I haven't yet.
[22:41] <duanedesign> what makes you think it is uploading twice?
[22:42] <duanedesign> i.e. after it appears in the cloud you still see data uploading?
[22:42] <shane4ubuntu> well, because I'm setting here working and occasionally I run u1sdtool --current-transfers, and it 'seems' to finally finish the large document, and the next thing I know it started over
[22:43] <duanedesign> ok
[22:43] <duanedesign> hmm.
[22:44] <shane4ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/522319/  I didn't note the time for these, but look at that.
[22:44] <duanedesign> I am afraid I have to board a plane. Leaving UDS and heading back home. I will play around on the plane and try and reproduce/better understand what the issue might be
[22:44] <shane4ubuntu> duanedesign, ahh, ok, have a good flight
[22:44] <shane4ubuntu> not a big deal, just odd for me.
[22:45] <duanedesign> shane4ubuntu: that doees look a bit odd at first glance
[22:45] <duanedesign> thank you shane4ubuntu :)
[22:45] <shane4ubuntu> ok, have a good flight, catch you later.
[22:52] <det> I bought 2 song about 5 minutes ago and they just say "Transfering to your ubuntu one storage"
[22:52] <det> You progress appears to be taking place
[22:52] <det> honk
[22:53] <shane4ubuntu> det, it is a little slow here, most people were at the Ubuntu Dev Summit, which apparently ended, so many are traveling today
[22:53] <shane4ubuntu> I can't be of much help to you sorry


[10:38] <devhelper> still waiting for gnome-tweaks 40, any idea when?
[13:55] <ice9> will the new installer in 21.10 have the option to encrypt the entire disk including /boot?
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> ice9: this is a bit of the latest news i saw on the new installer; https://9to5linux.com/ubuntus-new-desktop-installer-is-now-available-for-public-testing-heres-how-to-test-it


[14:40] <gadago> hi all
[14:41] <gadago> I'm trying to test out ubuntu openstack using the auto-pilot installer (I have maas up and running) but seem to have got stuck
[14:43] <gadago> I'm at the "Bootstrapping Juju" part, my node boots just fine and the cloud-init script runs, but when it finishes, it just sits there and the auto-pilot install still says Bootstrapping Juju: xxx time elapsed couting up
[14:43] <gadago> any idea?
[14:43] <gadago> I've been following the guide here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack
[16:15] <gadago> could anyone help me with the ubuntu openstack installer?
[16:16] <gadago> no matter what install type i choose (Autopilot, Multi, Single) I can't get passed "Bootstrapping Juju"
[16:17] <gadago> MAAS start the installer, etc, etc, seems to create network bridge for Juju, all seems to okay, but then just sits there at the login prompt
[16:18] <gadago> the openstack installer just continues to say "Bootstrapping Juju"
[16:18] <gadago> no idea what I'm doing wrong
[16:24] <balloons> gadago, probably best to ask in #juju or #ubuntu-server
[16:24] <gadago> balloons, thanks
[16:24] <balloons> your welcome, good luck!
[16:24] <balloons> bah; you're