[07:41] <n0s0r0g> persia, About wifi-toggle key on asus eeepc. Error while installing patched kernel - "Failed to symbolic link /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-8-generic to initrd.img.". No /boot/initrd*. What I need to do?
[07:45] <persia> n0s0r0g, Do you have a /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-8-generic ?
[07:46] <n0s0r0g> No.
[07:46] <persia> Hrm.
[07:47] <persia> Do you have any initrd in /boot as a result of the failed installation?
[07:47] <n0s0r0g> No.
[07:48] <n0s0r0g> Dpkg return something like this: "update-initramfs is disabled on LiveCD" before error.
[07:48] <persia> Ah.  That's it.
[07:49] <persia> It used to not be disabled, but it was confusing because one had to copy stuff manually.
[07:49] <persia> Apparently disabling it broke that behaviour.  There was a new patch to casper to undisable it in certain situations yesterday.
[07:49] <persia> I'll recommend trying again with the Alpha-6 images.
[07:51] <n0s0r0g> Ok, thanks. I'll try alpha6.
[08:52] <ara> morning all :)
[08:52] <ara> morning davmor2! aren't you around?
[08:52] <davmor2> Morning
[08:53] <davmor2> ara: Yes I'm here I was just trying to sort out my email :)
[08:54] <davmor2> evo decided to lock up and not play
[08:55] <davmor2> ara: No back at home only there last night :)
[08:55] <davmor2> slangasek: you still about
[09:18] <nags> mvo, I still notice this bug in Ubuntu 9.04 http://pastebin.com/d511706be
[09:20] <mvo> nags: I remember we talked about it some days ago, what was dokos opinion about it?
[09:22] <nags> mvo, dokos just say, somebody packaged it without testing it
[09:22] <nags> mvo, its really annoying me, when installing / updating the package
[09:23] <mvo> nags: I can fix it, could you please push the diff to debian then?
[09:23] <nags> mvo, oops not sure, how to do that :D
[09:24] <nags> mvo, currently in Ubuntu QA Sprint, UK, with me ara and other team members are here, can I speak with some one here ?
[09:25] <mvo> nags: heh :) sure, it should be easy, just ask around, I'm sure someone did it before
[09:25] <mvo> nags: testing the fix now
[09:25] <davmor2> Morning Chris Gregan how's the head
[09:47] <nags> mvo, sorry got disconnected
[09:47] <nags> mvo, was there any update for me ?
[10:05] <mvo> nags: no, just that its a harder problem than initiially thought, there is at least a nasty bug in python-central involved as well
[10:05] <nags> mvo, oops :)
[10:05] <nags> mvo, will wait then
[10:14] <mvo> nags: bug #341014
[10:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 341014 in python-central "package with no "Python-Version" cause havoc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/341014
[10:15] <nags> mvo, cool thanks, let me add myself to the bug :)
[10:17] <mvo> nags: the problem is with this bug even a fixed python-ropemacs will not help because python-central will not allow install/remove/upgrade of the installed package :/
[10:17] <mvo> that needs to be fixed first
[10:17] <nags> mvo, ok
[10:24]  * ara thinks that mvo is lobbying *again* for a python-central policy change :)
[10:27] <mvo> my last one did not quite went the way I wanted it :)
[10:27] <mvo> still not KISS enough for my taste
[12:22] <davmor2> lool: don't forget to have a look at the shutdown menu on unr :)
[12:34] <lool> davmor2: Ah the netbook is in my room ATM
[13:23] <ara> nags, eeejay: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Automation/OxfordSprint2009/Runner-Spec to track the ldtprunnerbyebye evolution
[13:24] <eeejay> ara, thanks :)
[13:28] <nags> ara, cool
[13:28]  * nags checking
[13:28] <ara> nags: it does not have much right now :D
[13:29] <nags> ara, :)
[16:42] <slangasek> davmor2: candidate images for alpha-6 are up generally, though kubuntu/xubuntu are going to get rerolled to ditch a dep on a package that's not supposed to be on any of our CDs
[16:43] <davmor2> slangasek: no probs.  I've done all the netboot that we cover I'm just working through the Ubuntu desktop at the moment, then I'll move onto alternate
[16:44] <slangasek> sounds good
[16:47] <davmor2> slangasek: trying for a complete coverage being that it is the end of the alphas.
[16:47] <davmor2> might skip lvm due to races issue that cjwatson has hopefully fixed
[16:48] <slangasek> mm, skipping lvm is precisely the wrong thing to do under the circumstances, we need the extra testing to see if this is fixed
[16:48] <cjwatson> even with the old images, LVM will be fine as long as it isn't what's currently on the disk
[16:48] <igascream> have some problems with ati drivers .... blinking white strips in the right side of screen .Is it a known bug?
[16:48] <cjwatson> with a reroll, I *would* like to know if it's gone away
[16:48] <cjwatson> slangasek: provided that the new images will have partman-lvm 65ubuntu2
[16:49] <slangasek> cjwatson: ah, the weather report doesn't give me out-of-date udebs, doh
[16:50] <charlie-tca> so it isn't just me that got an error on installing from xubuntu alternate.
[16:51] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: what error, what situation?
[16:51] <slangasek> libxine wants libavcodec2, which of course isn't on the CD
[16:51] <slangasek> Riddell fixed, am respinning
[16:51] <charlie-tca> DEBUG: resolver (libnewt0.52): package doesn't exist (ignored)
[16:51] <charlie-tca> DEBUG: resolver (ext2-modules): package doesn't exist (ignored)
[16:51] <charlie-tca> DEBUG: resolver (efi-modules): package doesn't exist (ignored)
[16:52] <charlie-tca> It may have been my internet, too. It appears to have failed to download all the packages
[16:52] <slangasek> none of those messages are errors
[16:53] <charlie-tca> eeejay:
[16:53] <charlie-tca> Mar 11 14:58:34 in-target: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[16:53] <slangasek> they all say 'debug' and 'ignored' :)
[16:53] <charlie-tca> Mar 11 14:58:34 in-target: tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[16:53] <eeejay> charlie-tca: you are welcome :)
[16:54] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[16:54] <charlie-tca> Read the stupid log wrong
[16:55] <charlie-tca> I think the "Unable to fetch som archives" must be me, not the image
[16:55] <slangasek> it's probably the xine-lib issue I just outlined
[16:55] <charlie-tca> Okay. I will run everything again after the respin.
[16:56] <charlie-tca> and this thing, too
[16:56] <charlie-tca> Mar 11 14:58:34 in-target: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Xubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Alpha i386 (20090311.1)]/pool/main/x/x11-xkb-utils/x11-xkb-utils_7.4+1_i386.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[16:56] <slangasek> hrm
[16:57] <slangasek> that sounds more like a bad CD burn
[16:57] <charlie-tca> passes md5sum and cd integrity check
[16:57] <charlie-tca> running again to find out, though
[16:57] <charlie-tca> worst part for me. It worked in VirtualBox, but gave me this on hardware
[16:59] <charlie-tca> anyway, no bugs reported yet.
[17:03] <davmor2> slangasek, cjwatson: It's not actually installing lvm that's the issue it's the pain you have to go through to remove so you can do other test so I might just leave them till last rather than not do them if that makes sense
[17:03] <slangasek> davmor2: well, cjwatson clarified that the fix he provided is not on the current CDs
[17:04] <slangasek> but then, I guess the problem is installing over LVM, so leaving those till last seems to make sense still, yeah
[17:04] <slangasek> xubuntu alternate is up again
[17:05] <davmor2> charlie-tca: ^
[17:06] <charlie-tca> thanks!
[17:06] <charlie-tca> I'll grab and test
[17:08] <slangasek> mm, the xine-lib change didn't actually work though
[17:08] <davmor2> :(
[17:08] <slangasek> digging into the logs, then
[17:13] <davmor2> slangasek: What's up with unr 0/0 on the tracker ?
[17:13] <slangasek> partial db changes
[17:14] <slangasek> we'll use the 'UMPC' to track testing of UNR again for this round
[17:14] <davmor2> slangasek: np's just checking :)
[17:16] <slangasek> ah; xfmedia has a Recommends: libxine1-ffmpeg that has to go away
[17:36] <slangasek> kubuntu alternate is up
[17:36] <slangasek> xubuntu still being sorted
[17:47] <davmor2> sbeattie: just a quick note on dl-ubuntu-test-iso there a note about not needing --only.  This is useful for times like now where kubuntu has had to be respun but the rest remain the same.  It's saves all the checks :)
[17:49] <sbeattie> davmor2: I appear to be comprehension-challenged this morning, you're looking for something that skips the md5sum checks except for ones that got updated?
[17:53] <davmor2> sbeattie:  No.  Currently if you need to download one specific set of cd because of a re-spin.  You can run the entire script or just run dl-ubuntu-test-iso --only kubuntu which just grabs the iso's that have changed.  The rest of the time however you want to download all the iso's
[17:53] <davmor2> so I'm asking that --only not be removed from the script it is of use :)
[17:54] <sbeattie> davmor2: Ah, got it! and lo, I am enlightened.
[17:55] <slangasek> kubuntu desktop up
[17:56] <sbeattie> davmor2: is --exclude useful for similar raisins?
[17:56] <davmor2> sbeattie: Yes that's more for everything has changed except for X
[17:57] <davmor2> that or you don't want the hassle of the dvd's
[17:58] <sbeattie> davmor2: the completist in me wonders if more only|exclude options would be useful; e.g. --only-variant or --exclude-variant dvd
[18:02] <davmor2> sbeattie: it would be good if it could be more specific as long as the command doesn't become so long it's quicker to dl all the images than type in the command :)
[19:20] <slangasek> charlie-tca: ok, xubuntu alternate really up now
[19:20] <charlie-tca> Thanks. I'll get it again, then
[19:25] <davmor2> slangasek: Sweet :)
[19:26] <davmor2> slangasek: Is that everything back up now then?
[19:27] <slangasek> no, xubuntu desktop and kde dvd are still rebuilding
[19:27] <davmor2> :(
[19:27] <davmor2> ubuntu desktop done :)
[19:28] <davmor2> I don't think all the red bugs are necessary though  I think someone aught to explain that red is for show stoppers
[19:59] <davmor2> mahahaha Evilness.  I'm testing lvm then I'll use rescue to wipe the partition table ready for the next test :)
[20:02] <davmor2> slangasek: can you get on the tracker?
[20:02] <davmor2> it's alright it's back up
[21:17] <slangasek> xubuntu desktop, kubuntu dvd up
[21:18] <charlie-tca> Thank you.
[21:18] <davmor2> slangasek: should freesoftware only offer nvidia drivers in jockey?
[21:18] <davmor2> do you know
[21:18] <slangasek> I have no idea
[21:19] <davmor2> I'd of thought it wasn't free software
[21:27] <slangasek> jockey is free software.
[21:28] <davmor2> slangasek: Jockey is but the Nvidia binary blob it wants to install isn't :)
[21:28] <slangasek> that's correct
[21:28] <slangasek> but I don't know what the "free software only" option is or isn't promised to do
[21:29] <davmor2> It's never shown up in there before so unless there was a policy change
[21:30] <davmor2> that's what I'm trying to find out whether it should be offered or not :) I'll bug seb128 and pitti about it tomorrow for now I've just left a note about it
[21:37] <lordnoid> Hi I have no sound in flash (swfdec or proprietary doesn't matter)..
[21:37] <lordnoid> in Jaunty alpha 56
[21:37] <lordnoid> 5
[21:39] <lordnoid> oh and im on 64-bit.. could that be it?
[21:40] <davmor2> lordnoid: no Cause I have audio in flash.
[21:40] <lordnoid> oh ok
[21:41] <davmor2> you might be better off asking on #ubuntu+1 though
[21:41] <lordnoid> ah okay
[21:52] <davmor2> stgraber: Good news ltsp seems to be building testing it shortly
[22:32] <davmor2> stgraber: ping
[22:38] <davmor2> stgraber: when you get this why does the default amd64 image point to /opt/ltsp/i386 ?
[22:57] <slangasek> davmor2: have you run into bug #341086?
[22:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 341086 in update-manager "update manager closes unexpectedly" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/341086
[22:57] <slangasek> which I think is the same as bug #340828
[22:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 340828 in update-manager "update-manager crashed with AttributeError in checkFreeSpace()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/340828
[22:58] <slangasek> a regression introduced in update-manager during the milestone freeze, grr
[22:58] <davmor2> slangasek: not on the oems I did earlier
[22:58] <slangasek> so update-manager Just Worked?
[22:58] <davmor2> slangasek: that's the same bug he reported in alpha 5
[22:59] <slangasek> hmm?
[22:59] <slangasek> 341086 was reported 9 hours ago
[22:59] <davmor2> slangasek: I'm not sure if it's a wifi thing
[22:59] <slangasek> no, this is an update-manager bug, that has nothing to do with wifi?
[23:00] <davmor2> slangasek: I'm sure there was one very similar in alpha 5 that the same tester reported unless I'm going mad
[23:00] <davmor2> n-m has worked fine for me
[23:00] <slangasek> this has nothing to do with network-manager!
[23:00] <davmor2> on netboot, alt and live
[23:00] <slangasek> *update*-manager
[23:01] <davmor2> sorry
[23:01] <davmor2> try again
[23:01] <davmor2> tired now just running u-m now
[23:06] <davmor2> meh forgot I've just bork eth connection for ltsp test.  2 secs I'll just fire up my laptop
[23:09] <davmor2> slangasek: right my laptop is a couple of days behind so about 5 minutes I'll ping you and let you know
[23:10] <slangasek> ...ok. :)
[23:20] <davmor2> slangasek: crashes
[23:20] <slangasek> ok
[23:24] <davmor2> slangasek: packages to be installed update-manager and update-manager-core I'm guessing they fix the issue I can install them and check if you'd like?
[23:24] <slangasek> it's already been confirmed that upgrading fixes it
[23:24] <slangasek> I was just needed a check on how reproducible the crash was
[23:24] <slangasek> s/was //
[23:25] <davmor2> slangasek: I've just finish burning a live cd I'll fire it up 2 ticks
[23:27] <davmor2> slangasek: yeap.  crashes on live cd too
[23:27] <slangasek> ok, I'm going to respin images for that
[23:28] <davmor2> slangasek:  :(
[23:28] <davmor2> :'(
[23:29] <slangasek> having CDs which install a system that users can't easily upgrade out of is a problem
[23:30] <davmor2> is that going to affect everything?  Or just ubuntu
[23:30] <slangasek> anything with the broken version of update-manager on it
[23:30] <slangasek> xubuntu and kubuntu already rerolled, so should be fine
[23:30] <davmor2> slangasek: so did xubuntu and kubuntu get the update in the respin?
[23:31] <slangasek> yes
[23:31] <davmor2> I'm going to go to bed now and sleep and start again in the morning
[23:32] <slangasek> affected are ubuntustudio, ubuntu-server, and ubuntu desktop/alternate, from what I see
[23:32] <slangasek> ok
[23:32] <slangasek> g'night then :)
[23:32] <davmor2> night
[23:32] <slangasek> also mythbuntu, MID, and UNR
[23:33]  * slangasek sighs
[23:33] <davmor2> spin ubuntu first then please, I can start straight away in the morning my server will dl them for me :)
[23:48] <mathiaz> slangasek: can you add a new test case to the Ubuntu Server iso in the QA tracker?
[23:48] <mathiaz> slangasek: I've created http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerRAID1 to cover RAID1 installs
[23:48] <slangasek> mathiaz: not in a timely fashion
[23:49] <slangasek> I have to reverse-engineer that bit of the database from the schema, submit SQL in an RT, and wait for IS :)
[23:49] <mathiaz> slangasek: ok. It can wait for after alpha6.


[15:57] <pragmaticenigma> Would someone please help me with two individuals in the #ubuntu who are not adhering to the community guidelines
[15:58] <pragmaticenigma> Lope and aidrocsid have turned to insulting rather than being constructive
[17:24] <Fuchs> yes, hello, just a heads up, mesu-ra who is ranting in #ubuntu does so after having been quieted in #freenode for the same, you might want to have an eye on that
[22:39] <nacc> just receive a PM from Pumpkin: "15:30 <Pumpkim> heard you lick rotten balls of dead animals"
[22:42] <Unit193> nacc: He's out of the channel.
[22:42] <nacc> Unit193: thx


[08:47] <dholbach> hiya
[08:48] <dholbach> I just had a strange experience with jaunty on my x61s - I pulled the plug and the screen went black and I couldn't get it back
[08:48] <dholbach> I had this in dmesg:  [15560.738232] [drm:i915_get_vblank_counter] *ERROR* trying to get vblank count for disabled pipe 0
[08:48] <dholbach> and http://paste.ubuntu.com/120487/ in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[08:49] <dholbach> the only similar bug I found was bug 331685 - not sure if that's the same
[08:49] <ubot3> Malone bug 331685 in linux "Ubuntu hangs in random moments" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331685
[15:03] <Keybuk> /usr/include/linux/byteorder.h:8:3: error: #error Fix asm/byteorder.h to define one endianness
[15:03] <Keybuk> Sparc is broken
[15:11] <smb_tp> Keybuk, where? (which release)
[15:12] <Keybuk> smb_tp: here, now
[15:12] <smb_tp> Keybuk, Meaning Jaunty? :)
[15:14] <Keybuk> yes


[16:55] <BobJonkman> Hi azend|vps_ How was the Ubuntu Hour?
[17:05] <genii> BobJonkman: http://kaulbach.torfree.net/~mike/poster2.jpg  is the poster with purple turned down. The original is there as poster1.jpg for comparison
[17:07] <Diyode-Quassel>   Seth here. The Laser has stopped firing
[17:11] <BobJonkman> Diyode-Quassel: Depending on whether it was pointed at you, that may be a good thing
[17:12] <Diyode-Quassel> I was making a second set of Business cards to take to LA with me today. At least I got one set done. It might jsut need a rest. someone else was on the laser before me, so it has been running all morening :)
[17:12] <azend|vps_> Diyode-Quassel: wrong channel
[17:12] <Diyode-Quassel> ah, sorry, someone left this one open on the main computer


[00:18] <satellit_> dfarning:http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu#VirtualBox_appliance_of_UbuntuSugarRemix  it is just finishing uploading now 30 min to go
[00:19] <satellit_> defarning: It turns out that it was specifiic to one netbook
[00:19] <satellit_> no booting
[00:21] <dfarning> satellit_, Ok thanks.  The underlying maverick code is changing pretty fast so I hesitate  to did too far into the non sugar specific stuff.
[00:21] <satellit_> virtual box appliance works nicely though
[00:22] <satellit_> dfarning: It is easy to install updates and post them as we go.....
[00:23] <satellit_> dinner....afk
[00:45] <satellit_> dfarning: All files Uploaded
[02:24] <satellit_> dfarning: Did DL of USR appliance and imported it...Works well here
[02:24] <dfarning> satellit_, nice
[02:24] <satellit_> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Emulator_image_files#VirtualBox
[14:56]  * dipankar says hi to all
[14:59] <manusheel> dipankar, ishan: Hello.
[14:59] <dipankar> ishan, hi
[14:59] <ishan_> manusheel: Hello
[14:59] <ishan_> dipankar, hi
[15:00] <manusheel> dipankar: First, can you explain Ishan the steps to merge the patch with the mainline git. As you explain, I'll add the steps in a doc file for future reference.
[15:00] <dipankar> ishan_, continuing with last night's bug
[15:00] <dipankar> manusheel, ok
[15:00] <ishan_> dipankar, sure
[15:00] <dipankar> ishan_, lets first discuss how I make the patch
[15:01] <ishan_> dipankar, sure
[15:01] <dipankar> ishan_, First you need to clone the mainline git repo of the package you are targeting to modify
[15:02] <ishan_> dipankar, okay
[15:03] <ishan_> dipankar, by this you mean the folder i which we are making changes
[15:03] <dipankar> for e.g to modify the sugar package files: here is the mainline git repository: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar/repos/mainline
[15:03] <ishan_> dipankar, okay
[15:04] <dipankar> ishan_, patches based on this mainline git repo will be accepted as the patches created from here can be added directly.
[15:04] <ishan_> okay
[15:05] <manusheel> dipankar: Team members have this question on the location where you clone the repository. What do you have to recommend in this matter?
[15:05] <dipankar> ishan_, I don't know much in detail, but Shascha always wanted the patches based on mainline so that he can apply them.
[15:05] <dipankar> manusheel, ok sir.
[15:05] <ishan_> dipankar, okay
[15:06] <dipankar> manusheel, ishan_: I generally clone them in a folder named 'test-s'
[15:06] <dipankar> in home folder
[15:06] <ishan_> which in home folder
[15:06] <dipankar> home folder of Ubuntu
[15:07] <ishan_> dipankar, okay
[15:07] <dipankar> its similar to cloning any git repo
[15:07] <ishan_> dipankar, is it same as we had done for Lp
[15:08] <dipankar> ishan_, to make things clear. Lets suppose for debian packages, you needed to create a patch, which repo will you use?
[15:09] <ishan_> dipankar, i think the repo for the package present in debian
[15:09] <dipankar> ishan_, great
[15:10] <dipankar> ishan_, similarly, if you want to contribute directly to Sugar, where would you base your patch?
[15:10] <ishan> dipankar, in the suga repo
[15:10] <ishan> suga/sugar
[15:10] <dipankar> ishan, nice.
[15:11] <ishan_> dipankar, okay i got it
[15:11] <dipankar> ishan, I think by now you must have got what I wanted to explain :)
[15:11] <ishan_> dipankar, yes
[15:11] <dipankar> remember this hierarchy:
[15:11] <dipankar> Sugar
[15:11] <dipankar> V
[15:11] <dipankar> Debian
[15:11] <dipankar> V
[15:11] <dipankar> Ubuntu
[15:12] <ishan_> okay
[15:12] <ishan_> dipankar, can you also explain the patch numbering system
[15:12] <dipankar> ishan, patch numbering?
[15:13] <ishan_> dipankar, what i meant was V1,V2 ......which you did for your patch
[15:14] <dipankar> ishan_, ok the patch versioning
[15:14] <ishan_> dipankar, yep
[15:14] <dipankar> ishan_, the first patch you submit is always v1.
[15:15] <dipankar> ishan_, if you modify it and upload a new one, then has to indicate that the on you are sending right now is not the first
[15:15] <ishan_> dipankar, okay
[15:16] <dipankar> ishan_, in addition to your versions, you also need to mention a snap of previous versions in the changelog,
[15:16] <ishan_> dipankar, can you explain ^^
[15:16] <dipankar> e.g v1 was Reviewed-By Sascha Silbe<email-id>
[15:16] <ishan_> dipankar, okay
[15:16] <dipankar> changelog is similar to the one in packages, but these are onliner
[15:16] <dipankar> *one liners
[15:16] <ishan_> dipankar, okay
[15:18] <dipankar> just to inform the developers that your previous version was reviewed by another developer
[15:18] <ishan_> dipankar, like you submitted your V1 for review and had to make some changes for V2- so do we have to make changes in the V1 file or we have to make changes in the orignal file
[15:18] <ishan_> in order to make V2 patch
[15:20] <dipankar> ishan_, ohk,
[15:20] <dipankar> for that follow this simple process:
[15:20] <dipankar> - first reset the file that you modified
[15:20] <dipankar> using , git reset in the repo
[15:20] <ishan_> dipankar, okay
[15:21] <dipankar> - after completing the modifications add it for commit
[15:21] <dipankar> using git add
[15:21] <dipankar> - then run git commit --amend
[15:21] <ishan_> dipankar, okay means we are making the V2 patch also from the original file
[15:21] <dipankar> yes
[15:22] <dipankar> ishan_, otherwise it will be a very long process
[15:22] <dipankar> alsroot, ping
[15:22] <ishan_> dipankar, and for git reset we just run git reset command
[15:22] <ishan_> or there are some attributes to be added
[15:22] <dipankar> ishan_, sorry I forgot to add them in quotes.
[15:22] <dipankar> git reset
[15:23] <dipankar> git add
[15:23] <dipankar> git commit --amend
[15:23] <ishan_> dipankar, got it
[15:23] <dipankar> no more flags to be sent
[15:23] <ishan_> dipankar, okay
[15:25] <manusheel> ishan_: Now, try these steps for the bundle id issue, and send the steps to the team in a documented format.
[15:25] <manusheel> ishan_: You can take up any other issue too that you are more comfortable with. The idea is understanding this process.
[15:30] <manusheel> dipankar: In reference to your question, which file are you looking at?
[15:30]  * dipankar is making patch for : http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2180
[15:30] <dipankar> manusheel, that depends on the patch I want to make
[15:31] <manusheel> dipankar: I was referring to your yesterday's query on right click key handler.
[15:31] <dipankar> manusheel, like for the above bug I need: jarabe/util/emulator.py
[15:32] <ishan> dipankar, while making the patch the normal procedure has to be followed right?
[15:33] <dipankar> ishan, yes, git commit -> write the commit message and save-> then git format-patch HEAD^1
[15:34] <manusheel> ishan: yes.
[15:34] <manusheel> same steps.
[15:47] <ishan_> dipankar, manusheel: check the mail
[15:49] <dipankar> ishan_, nice
[15:49] <ishan_> dipankar, thanks sir
[15:49]  * dipankar wonders what [A [B is?
[15:49] <dipankar> ishan_, where did you send the e-mail btw?
[15:49] <ishan> dipankar, only to you
[15:50] <dipankar> ishan, ohk
[15:50] <ishan> dipankar, these [A [B were due to the arrow keys pressed
[15:52] <dipankar> ishan, ok
[15:53]  * ishan_ is away for 10mins
[16:03]  * ishan_ is back
[16:06] <kandarpk> alsroot: hi
[16:06] <kandarpk> around ?
[16:07] <dipankar> manusheel_, sir, I am looking for the file containing the key handlers, or in jarabe/view/ dir
[16:08] <manusheel_> dipankar: Ok. Coming to that directory.
[16:14] <dipankar> manusheel_, I think this file might be useful: jarabe/journal/objectchooser.py
[16:14] <alsroot> kandarpk: pong
[16:14] <manusheel_> dipankar: Why do see this file would be useful?
[16:15] <dipankar> manusheel_, sir, it has some statements like : self.tree_view.connect('button-release-event',
[16:15] <dipankar>                                self.__button_release_event_cb)
[16:16] <dipankar> not sure though
[16:16] <kandarpk> alsroot: can you help me with #2323
[16:16] <ishan_> kandarpk, sir i am working on bug #1858
[16:16] <alsroot> kandarpk: whats the problem?
[16:16] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1858 in gajim "gajim look and feel" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1858
[16:16] <ishan_> kandarpk, can you provide me any pointers on that
[16:17] <kandarpk> alsroot: I dont know how to work with clpboard
[16:17] <dipankar> manusheel_, let kandarpk finish discussing with alsroot, then I will ask him. Meanwhile I will try to dig in more
[16:17] <manusheel_> dipankar: Ok. Yes, those functions seem useful.
[16:19]  * alsroot didn't work w/ clipboard as well
[16:19] <kandarpk> ishan, please see http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-September/027094.html
[16:19] <kandarpk> it has some replies as well
[16:20] <ishan_> kandarpk, okay
[16:20] <alsroot> kandarpk: you can grab some info in gtk docs, http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/gtk-Clipboards.html
[16:20] <kandarpk> alsroot, ok, thanks.
[16:21] <dipankar> alsroot, I am still working on the volume display in journal view
[16:21] <dipankar> alsroot, I want to check where I can add a right click option for the journal icon in the journal view
[16:22] <alsroot> dipankar: you don't need to code it directly, just add create_palette method to create button palette, the rest will be processed by existed code (invoker created by parent class)
[16:23] <dipankar> alsroot, I already added the create_palette(). but it seems that it is not working
[16:23] <alsroot> dipankar: did sugar log any errors?
[16:24] <dipankar> alsroot, no
[16:24] <dipankar> alsroot, let me check once again
[16:27] <dipankar> alsroot, today it is showing some error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/500386/
[16:28] <dipankar> alsroot, sorry about my denial to errors first :(
[16:30] <alsroot> dipankar: does this error happen after right clicking on journal button?
[16:30] <dipankar> alsroot, yes
[16:32] <alsroot> dipankar: could you pastebin your patch
[16:32] <dipankar> alsroot, the strange thing is, sometimes the error comes and sometimes it doesnt'
[16:33] <dipankar> alsroot, just asec
[16:34] <dipankar> alsroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/500389/
[16:35] <dipankar> alsroot, I will back after sometime. Going for dinner
[16:35]  * dipankar is off for dinner
[17:28]  * ishan_ is away for dinner
[17:41] <manusheel> mukul: Hi Mukul.
[17:41] <manusheel> Around?
[17:50] <dipankar> alsroot, sorry, I got disconnected.
[17:50] <dipankar> dfarning, around?
[17:50] <dipankar> manusheel, around?
[17:50] <manusheel> dipankar: Hi Dipankar.
[17:51] <dfarning> dipankar, yes
[17:51] <manusheel> dipankar: Did we send the patch to sugar-devel?
[17:51] <dipankar> manusheel, yes sir. The patch for fullscreen bug has already been sent
[17:52] <manusheel> dipankar: Great.
[17:52] <alsroot> dipankar: could pasterbin your entirely patch (`git diff`) otherwise I dunno how code you posted before is intended to work(there are missed symbols)
[17:52] <dipankar> dfarning, just came across your e-mail on tomeu's guidelines
[17:53] <dipankar> alsroot, I just added the whole create_palette(). nothing more
[17:53] <dipankar> alsroot, the original code is without the whole function
[17:53] <alsroot> dipankar: anyway it is more useful practice to pastebin a patch not a piece of code
[17:53]  * ishan_ is back
[17:54] <dipankar> alsroot, ok. Will do that from now.
[17:54] <alsroot> dipankar: then I dunno why it didn't fail any errors (except you posted)
[17:54] <dfarning> dipankar, yes.  Bernie set up patchwork a couple of days ago to help keep track of patches.  I just wanted to make sure that you guys were keeping track of your patches.
[17:54] <dipankar> dfarning, manusheel : Aren't tomeu's guidelines for patches same as Sascha's?
[17:55] <alsroot> dipankar: could you add debug logging to create_palette and try to right click on joural button to see if your debug was logged
[17:55] <dfarning> dipankar, yes.
[17:59] <dipankar> alsroot, you want me to add a debug logging in the func so that if the function is called, a message is sent to log
[17:59] <dipankar> ?
[18:01] <alsroot> dipankar: yup, just to be sure that your create_palette was called
[18:09] <dipankar> alsroot, I added a line: logging.debug('Right Click')
[18:09] <dipankar> alsroot, but that message is not appearing in shell.log
[18:10] <alsroot> dipankar: is your loglevel DEBUG?
[18:11] <dipankar> alsroot, didn't get your question
[18:11] <dipankar> alsroot, shall I try changing the Level to info?
[18:13] <alsroot> dipankar: did you set log level to debug, I meant, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/BugSquad/Get_Logs#Enabling_Sugar_debug_logging
[18:13] <alsroot> dipankar: otherwise you won't see debug() messages
[18:14] <dipankar> alsroot, I have already done the settings required
[18:14] <dipankar> afair
[18:17] <alsroot> dipankar: got it, see where JournalButton is created, code sets palette manually
[18:23] <dipankar> alsroot, JournalButton is created? I am unable to get there. please give me two more minutes
[18:24] <alsroot> dipankar: just grep for "JournalButton("
[18:24] <dipankar> alsroot, doing
[18:25] <dipankar> alsroot, found it
[18:26] <dipankar> volumestoolbar.py; line 46
[18:30] <dipankar> alsroot, ?
[18:30] <alsroot> dipankar: as you can see, it sets palette manually, thus your create_palette won't be called
[18:31] <dipankar> alsroot, as in button.set_palette(Palette(_('Journal'))) right?
[18:31] <alsroot> yup
[18:32] <dipankar> alsroot, that means i need to change it here, perhaps change the argument.
[18:32] <alsroot> dipankar: just remove this line and let create_palette work
[18:32] <dipankar> so that it calls the JournalButton.create_palette()
[18:33] <dipankar> alsroot, ok
[18:34] <dipankar> alsroot, now nothing is showing up
[18:34] <alsroot> dipankar: see shell.log
[18:37] <dipankar> alsroot, I think we are expecting this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/500460/
[18:38] <alsroot> well, not me :)
[18:41] <dipankar> alsroot, I can find create_palette being called. but how come  'global name 'JournalPalette' is not defined'
[18:41] <dipankar> ??
[18:42] <alsroot> dipankar: just read error message, python dunno what is "JournalPalette"
[18:42] <alsroot> dipankar: did you import this symbol before?
[18:43] <dipankar> alsroot, here : from jarabe.view.palettes import VolumePalette
[18:43] <dipankar> ^^ JournalPalette is missing
[18:43] <alsroot> dipankar: but there is JournalPalette?
[18:44] <dipankar> alsroot, how about:  from jarabe.view.palettes import VolumePalette, JournalPalette ?
[18:44] <alsroot> if jarabe.view.palettes contains JournalPalette then it should work
[18:46] <dipankar> alsroot, ^^ yes it is there. crosschecked
[18:47] <dipankar> alsroot, now this error : NameError: global name 'home_activity' is not defined
[18:47] <alsroot> dipankar: I guess error is obvious :)
[18:48] <dipankar> alsroot, shall i pass no argument then?
[18:48] <alsroot> dipankar: see JournalPalette sources
[18:54] <dipankar> alsroot, I can't leave it blank
[18:54] <dipankar> :(
[18:55] <dipankar> it takes exactly two arguments
[19:01] <alsroot> dipankar: yup, btw do you really need JournalPalette
[19:01] <dipankar> alsroot, I tried some argument: self._home_activity -- not working
[19:01] <dipankar> alsroot, I guess no
[19:01] <alsroot> dipankar: hmm, does JournalButton have self._home_activity?
[19:02] <dipankar> alsroot, no..
[19:05] <dipankar> alsroot, How can I pass an argument? :P
[19:05] <dipankar> * I mean which argument to pass
[19:06] <alsroot> dipankar: just grep source for all JournalPalette objects to know what its argument is
[19:06] <alsroot> ..and where you can find this argument
[19:07] <alsroot> ..or ask yourself, do you really need JournalPalette and maybe bettert ot implement new palette class w/ just free space progress bar
[19:08] <dipankar> alsroot, I would like the second option.
[19:08] <dipankar> alsroot, since I need to display only volume, not the other options
[19:09] <alsroot> dipankar: so, go ahead :), use JournalPalette as an example of progress bar
[19:12] <dipankar> alsroot, but, what was the home_activity about then?
[19:13] <alsroot> dipankar: Activity class
[19:13] <alsroot> ..object
[19:15] <dipankar> alsroot, then I need to send some argument, don't i?
[19:16] <dipankar> * I will be making a new palette, but I really want to know what can I pass in the argument..:)
[19:17] <alsroot> dipankar: grep for all JournalPalette invocations to see what its argument is
[19:17] <dipankar> self._home_activity
[19:18] <dipankar> alsroot, ^^
[19:18] <alsroot> dipankar: well, grep for "self._home_activity =" to know where it was set
[19:19] <dipankar> ok
[19:20] <dipankar> alsroot,
[19:20] <dipankar> /usr/share/pyshared/jarabe/frame/activitiestray.py:        self._home_activity = home_activity
[19:20] <dipankar> /usr/share/pyshared/jarabe/view/palettes.py:        self._home_activity = home_activity
[19:20] <dipankar> /usr/share/pyshared/jarabe/view/palettes.py:        self._home_activity = home_activity
[19:20] <dipankar> /usr/share/pyshared/jarabe/desktop/favoritesview.py:        self._home_activity = self._home_model.get_active_activity()


[12:34] <mort> so, kdenlive doesn't work anymore it seems
[12:34] <mort> at least the video preview doesn't work
[16:02] <tomreyn> c'est mort, totallement.
[16:03] <oerheks> Hardstikke dood, jochie!
[16:03] <oerheks> hi tomreyn
[16:36] <tomreyn> hi oerheks


[06:32] <duflu> smspillaz around?
[08:20] <didrocks> mmrazik|otp: FYI, branch subscribers in most of projects are a mess, I'm fixing them
[08:46] <tsdgeos> Trevinho: can you approve it now https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/nux/const_get_position/+merge/131856 so i don't get another conflict in the ABI line?
[08:54] <didrocks> Mirv: I commented on https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/ubuntu/quantal/gnome-settings-daemon/ubuntu.fix1058004/+merge/127430
[09:02] <Mirv> didrocks: thanks, it indeed needs to be in raring first
[09:02] <didrocks> yep ;)
[09:02] <didrocks> Mirv: I think it still worth a SRU if you want to :)
[09:03] <Mirv> sure
[09:05] <didrocks> thanks :)
[10:46] <pitti> hello folks
[10:46] <pitti> I'm doing my first steps with autopilot, and can't seem to convince it to discover my tests
[10:47] <pitti> did anyone use autopilot already and could give me a hand with this?
[10:58] <tsdgeos> pitti: i've used it, how are you running it?
[10:59] <pitti> tsdgeos: I'm following the tutorial, and created a ~/gedit_test.py (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1379193/)
[10:59] <pitti> "autopilot list ." crashes, "autopilot list gedit_test" and "autopilot list gedit_test.py" both find no tests
[10:59] <tsdgeos> ok
[10:59] <tsdgeos> so what i did
[10:59] <tsdgeos> which i'm not an expert at all
[10:59] <tsdgeos> is this
[10:59] <pitti> tsdgeos: I also tried putting it into a package (gedit_tests/, with __init__.py and tests.py), doesn't help
[10:59] <tsdgeos> ah
[11:00] <tsdgeos> that's what i did
[11:00] <tsdgeos> worked for me
[11:00] <pitti> hm
[11:00] <pitti> I'm using ppa:autopilot/ppa with quantal
[11:00] <pitti> well, on raring, but the quantal packages from the PPA
[11:00] <pitti> tsdgeos: perhaps I'm missing some magic in my .py file itself?
[11:03] <tsdgeos> i don't see anything bad, but as said i'm not an expert
[11:03] <tsdgeos> pitti: so if you put it in a package
[11:03] <pitti> ok, thanks for having a look
[11:03] <tsdgeos> and then do autopilot list gedit_tests from the dir containing gedit_tests what happens?
[11:04] <pitti> $ mkdir gedit_tests
[11:04] <pitti> $ cp ~/gedit_test.py gedit_tests/test.py
[11:04] <pitti> $ touch gedit_tests/__init__.py
[11:04] <pitti> $ autopilot list . -> ValueError: Empty module name
[11:04] <pitti> ooh
[11:04] <tsdgeos> from parent dir?
[11:04] <pitti> $ autopilot list gedit_tests
[11:04] <pitti> that works
[11:04] <pitti> odd, it just hanged with that some minutes ago
[11:05] <tsdgeos> it's my magic touch :D
[11:05] <pitti> now running it fails with RuntimeError: Unable to find Autopilot interface.
[11:05] <pitti> but one step further :)
[11:06] <pitti> ah, it only fails with that if I close my gedit window
[11:07] <pitti> the self.keyboard.press_and_release('Ctrl+q') doesn't seem to work
[11:07] <pitti> but anyway, I'll poke at this
[11:07] <pitti> tsdgeos: thanks!
[11:12] <pitti> oh, it's apparently because there is no autopilot-gtk module; the autopilot-gtk package is empty (and also only available for i386)
[11:20] <pitti> filed as https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1082326
[11:29] <pitti> tsdgeos: ah, FTR, got it (see bug followup)
[11:30] <tsdgeos> interesting
[11:30] <tsdgeos> i was using autopilot-qt
[11:30] <tsdgeos> that has stuff inside
[12:46] <pitti> tsdgeos: do you know how to access the widget tree in an autopilot-gtk test?
[12:47] <pitti> there is zero documentation about it, and dir(self) and dir(self.application) don't have something obvious either
[12:47] <tsdgeos> pitti: nope, have you tried "autopilot vis" that gives you an app that shows you the properties of the thing
[12:47] <pitti> yes, I did try it
[12:47] <tsdgeos> then no sorry, all autopilot i used was with qt
[12:47] <pitti> but that doesn't give me any identifiers for the labels (such as the one in the GtkBuilder file)
[12:48] <pitti> tsdgeos: how do you do it in Qt?
[12:48] <pitti> dash = ... # Get the dash object from somewhere
[12:48] <pitti> ^ in the doc
[12:48] <pitti> it's the "in the somewhere" that needs some expansion
[12:48] <pitti> err, "from somewhere"
[12:49] <tsdgeos> i do
[12:49] <xnox> pitti: if only gtk exported the gtkbuilder id's and let you query them.....
[12:49] <tsdgeos>         results = self.app.select_single("Results")
[12:49] <tsdgeos> where Results is the class i'm looking for
[12:49]  * xnox did file a bug report about it, and it was dismissed as not needed.
[12:49] <pitti> tsdgeos: ah, thanks; that's not even in in dir() (or perhaps doesn't exist for gtk)
[12:49] <pitti> xnox: too bad :(
[12:50] <xnox> pitti: the reason was "you don't need it in C", and I was like "but you do want in OO languages & for interspection", I was dismissed as a lunatic.
[12:51] <pitti> ah, I was printing the wrong dir(), ignore me
[12:51] <xnox> pitti: it's in the internal gtkbuilder structure.... which I can code a ld_preload library to expose.
[12:51] <pitti> xnox: do you happen to have the bug link at hand?
[12:51] <xnox> pitti: hm... let me try to find it.
[12:54] <xnox> pitti: I have irc chat logs only & no bug #.
[12:54] <pitti> ah, so it's perhaps worth another attempt; thanks
[14:11] <Trevinho> tsdgeos: done
[14:24] <mvo> Trevinho: hi, did you get a chance to read my questions around the lp:~mvo/unity/sc-launcher-integration-fixes branch? I need some help to understand the change better :)
[14:28] <Trevinho> mvo: no sorry... looking now
[14:28] <mvo> thanks
[15:05] <Trevinho> mvo: gave a look.. Basically I mean that once you've installed the app, then you can make apt to send to unity the desktop id of the new file... So this means "/tmp/software-center-agent:desktop-id.desktop" for instance... At this point you don't need to do all the manual search you're doing to get from it the real path... Just get the id substring and use the utility function
[15:08] <mvo> Trevinho: ok, so that would mean that there needs to be a new dbus call for unity, right? to replace a existing launcher icon (the temp one that is just valid during the install) with the new one?
[15:08] <Trevinho> mvo: imho that would be better, so that you can keep all the low level stuff there
[15:09] <Trevinho> whie unity will be just informed with the actual result
[15:10] <Trevinho> mvo: or just pass that during the "On-Finished" signal...
[15:10] <mvo> Trevinho: ok, I will think about it
[15:11] <Trevinho> mvo: but if you don't want to do that, it's fine to use the current way, but use the utility function for doing the real parsing
[15:16] <mvo> Trevinho: ok, thanks. I would prefer to leave it as is for now, but I will use the utility function
[18:09] <cariveri> hey there. does anyone know the current email adress of jason smith or any other way to context ihm?
[18:09] <cariveri> *contact him
[20:54] <conscioususer> larsu: from a modal dialog I can access the menubar of its parent... is this a bug?
[20:56] <larsu> conscioususer, right now all windows in an application have the same menu bar. That's more an api limitation than a bug :)
[21:07] <larsu> conscioususer, hey wait, you probably mean something other than me. You want the menu to disappear in that case? Or have everything disabled?
[21:43] <bobweaver> Hello there I am not sure what I did in the last 4 hours but I can not seem to get cmake to configure right. after rm <source>/build/*  I keep on getting a linked lib error for unityshell for the compiz plugin  I will pastebin error
[21:43] <bobweaver> well it is not that big
[21:43] <bobweaver> CMake Error at plugins/unityshell/CMakeLists.txt:13 (add_dependencies):
[21:43] <bobweaver>   add_dependencies Adding dependency to non-existent target: unity-shell
[21:44] <bobweaver> but target is there ?
[21:45] <bobweaver> cmake command I am running
[21:45] <bobweaver> cmake ../  -DCOMPIZ_PLUGIN_INSTALL_TYPE=local -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/joseph/Desktop/ubuntu-tv-3d/trunk/build -DGSETTINGS_LOCALINSTALL=O
[21:47] <bobweaver> I will hack away at plugins/unityshell/CMakeLists.txt for now
[21:57] <bobweaver> Work around : hardcode in unity version and move the linking of unityshell to the end and it is building now
[21:58] <bobweaver> libunity-6.0-5 *
[22:26] <conscioususer> larsu: disabled would be expected, as this is the case for DEs without global menus
[22:26] <conscioususer> oops, he left