[00:00] <goth> precise
[00:01] <goth> for the moment I just try to permanentely enable hw acceleration again
[00:01] <BooG> ubuntu 12
[00:01] <exutux> s/more/alot of/
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> goth: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'             Thanks
[00:01] <maheanuu> exutuxI have a clean external 1.5TB drive as the empty back up drive and the files I am trying to reccover are on another external  drive  that is also a 1.5TB
[00:02] <goth> http://pastebin.com/WjYAENuL
[00:03] <maheanuu> I am running the same, and have no problems, with my flash but my upgrade was only 2 days aGO
[00:03] <exutux> maheanuu: well you can it's enough :D
[00:04] <goth> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/WjYAENuL
[00:05] <maheanuu> exutux  I thought that it would be ok, but looking for the command line stuff I am going to need to do this, I was working in the Directory of Books Ebooks and Audio Books and apparently pumped it into space perhaps Jupiteer as I don't see the debris on Mars
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> goth: sudo apt-get --purge remove gnash gnash-common
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> goth: then:   sudo apt-get --reinstall install adobe-flashplugin
[00:06] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip, U da smarted dood here!!!
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> maheanuu: sometimes
[00:06] <goth> ok I try
[00:06] <goth> I was actually thinking about removing the flashplugin?
[00:06] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip, U my heeerow
[00:06] <goth> how far is gnash?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> hahha
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> goth: not sure, could try it, its free
[00:07] <goth> but flash causes major bugs
[00:07] <goth> so maybe worth a try
[00:07] <goth> also flash stores a lot of data
[00:07] <goth> and then there are the adds/etc
[00:09] <jyc> how can I run xrandr at the login screen?
[00:09] <jyc> I used to be able to use /etc/gdm/Init/Default, but now that ubuntu uses lightdm
[00:09] <m477> what are advantages of using terminal applications instead of window oen
[00:10] <maheanuu> exutux, does foremost recover mp3 files as a lot of my ebooks are audio ones and those are the most important to me
[00:11] <maheanuu> \
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> m477: skills are transferable
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> maheanuu: why do you not have a backup?
[00:11] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip, only one thing I have to say is I'm still dangerous here after all these sessions
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> maheanuu: foremost may be able to recover data, but its not guarunteed
[00:12] <gsr> Hi all.  My unity launcher seems to have disappeard.  If I put my mouse over it, I can still see the names for each program, and I can still click and launch - but its completely transparent.  Same with the bar at the top of the screen.  can I refresh unity without having to restart X?
[00:13] <maheanuu> I do have backups, but I had a major crash and by the time i got finished putting on every version from 10.04 thru 12.04 I lost all sorts of stuff and these drives are external
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> maheanuu: you can go directly from 10.04 to 12.04 as it is LTS to LTS
[00:14] <maheanuu> I see that it does pdf's and mpegs but does mpegs inclued mp3
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> maheanuu: foremost does all files
[00:15] <triad> It's Ubuntu good as server?
[00:15] <maheanuu> I didn't wanna leave 10.04LTS but after a serious crash I had to and Ubuntu kept telling me that I needed to upgrade until I got to 12.04
[00:15] <Debolaz> triad: Yes.
[00:15] <triad> :)
[00:15] <zykotick9> triad: not really... ubuntu isn't "stable"
[00:15] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip, I done tole you i am dangerous!
[00:15] <triad> hm..
[00:15] <jyc> zykotick9: what are you talking about?
[00:16] <jyc> triad: just use ubuntu LTS, you'll be fine. Wikipedia uses ubuntu servers IIRC
[00:16] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip, and not too bright either
[00:16] <triad> lolm are you serious ))?
[00:16] <edgy> Hi, I copied my-huge.cnf to my.cnf and restarted mysql and it didn't come up, what's wrong?
[00:16] <maheanuu> \
[00:17] <triad> why they use Ubuntu instead other type of OS
[00:17] <triad> ?
[00:17] <triad> i use fedora 17 on my netbook and i think to set my server on ubuntu, because centos give's me some serious headache
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> triad: ask them
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> triad: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/casestudies/wikimedia
[00:19] <triad> right now i'm reading that
[00:19] <triad> hehe
[00:20] <goth> ActionParsnip: ok, your procedure didn't help
[00:20] <triad> so i'll think i'll go for ubuntu
[00:20] <triad> :)
[00:20] <goth> ActionParsnip: still the same behaviour, still hw accel deactivated
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> triad: why not use it yourself and form your own opinion....
[00:21] <goth> triad: or use debian for server...
[00:21] <Debolaz> zykotick9: Don't spread fud.
[00:21] <zykotick9> Debolaz: i'm not.  ubuntu isn't "stable" in either of the computer sences of the term... that's "fact"
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> goth: remove all the packages you got in the output and then install the adobe-flashplugin package
[00:22] <Debolaz> zykotick9: What definition of stable would that be then?
[00:22] <goth> that's what I did, remove with purge even
[00:22] <zykotick9> Debolaz: stable 1) non-changing packages 2) none crashing... </OT>
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> goth: yes remove them all so you have zero flash
[00:23] <Debolaz> zykotick9: Ubuntu seems perfectly stable to me then.
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: once its released it's officially stable :)
[00:23] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: used to be.  not anymore, see firefox... ;)
[00:23] <Cromat> zykotick9: What disto do you think is stable more so than Ubuntu, the only one I know is debian stable branch...
[00:23] <zykotick9> Cromat: what i use ;)
[00:24] <Cromat> lol ok
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: ive not seen firefox for the last 3 releases
[00:24] <exutux> I have 15 Ubuntu server running actually and it's all stable
[00:24] <Cromat> zykotick9: I missed the first half of the discussion are you having an issue?
[00:24] <zykotick9> Cromat: no issue here <i'll drop the OT>
[00:25] <triad> lol
[00:25] <triad> there is 12.04 LTS SERVER stable version ?
[00:25] <exutux> triad: yes it is
[00:25] <Debolaz> triad: Yes.
[00:25] <goth> ActionParsnip: that's what I did
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> triad: yes
[00:25] <goth> ActionParsnip: I think it is some setting in firefox
[00:25] <triad> i had ubuntu desktop for 6 months, i know how it works. just asking about the server because i don't know how it is
[00:25] <antonio_> thank you actionparsnip
[00:25] <goth> how do I change the firefox settings?
[00:25] <antonio_> my touchpad work perfectly now..
[00:25] <goth> I forgot
[00:26] <goth> about:config
[00:26] <goth> ok
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> goth: then no idea, your OS is 64bit and the adobe-flashplugin package will install 64bit flash, you could play with /etc/adobe/mms.cfg file
[00:26] <Debolaz> triad: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: what was the magic bullet?
[00:26] <Cromat> goth: The alternative is to use chrome, no need for flash then as a seperate install
[00:26] <antonio_> actually I am sure..
[00:26] <triad> Debolaz: it has installation features, like ..to be able to not install any DE and so on ?
[00:26] <Debolaz> triad: The server edition is very reliable, stable, and generally one of the best server distributions to use.
[00:27] <Debolaz> triad: It does not install any desktop by default.
[00:27] <antonio_> i restart ubunt..
[00:27] <triad> i;m not interested in desktop or any other kinky non-interesting stuff
[00:27] <zykotick9> Debolaz: lol - see debian or rh for a "real" server distro
[00:27] <exutux> triad: server edition doesn't has X
[00:27] <triad> perfect
[00:27] <goth> chrome has some other issues
[00:27] <goth> I prefer firefox
[00:27] <exutux> triad: it's a SERVER! lol
[00:28] <Debolaz> zykotick9: Debian is fine, though I tend to strongly advice people against using RH. CentOS is somewhat better, but still a real pita to deal with compared to Ubuntu/Debian.
[00:28] <Alazare619> anyone used x2go?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> triad: you can install miimal ISO then install the desktop you desire
[00:28] <goth> Grecoo: hmm, so chrome has builtin flash?
[00:28] <goth> what flash/swf/whatever system are they using?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> goth: yes it will continue flash, firefox will probably do something similar
[00:29] <goth> anyway, I still have the same problem
[00:29] <exutux> zykotick9: rh isn't free and debian sure is stable but it doesn' has a dedicated server edition and it's so old for packages versions
[00:29] <goth> for now I'll just use dwhelper to download the flash
[00:29] <exutux> zykotick9: obv it's stable...it's a bit old
[00:29] <goth> and then play it from the harddisk
[00:29] <goth> that never crashes
[00:29] <zykotick9> exutux: if you think debian packages are "old" you've not used rhel...
[00:29] <Debolaz> zykotick9: RH based server distributions tend to require a lot higher level of knowledge about the inner workings of the system. If you want things to just work, Debian or Ubuntu is simply a lot better choice. And unless you are managing a large number of servers, there simply isn't any advantage *at all* with using RH.
[00:29] <goth> but it is soooo anoying
[00:29] <goth> gnight
[00:30] <zykotick9> Debolaz: i'd never personally use rh... but it's an enterprise grade OS
[00:30] <exutux> zykotick9: I've used rh and centOS too and I have some debian server
[00:31] <exutux> ant they has old "stable" packages it's real
[00:31] <Debolaz> zykotick9: "Enterprise grade" means nothing other than that they sell support contracts. Which Canonical does as well of course.
[00:31] <exutux> so I close OT...
[00:31] <exutux> zykotick9: and I repeat RH isn't free
[00:32] <brandonj> CentOS is free
[00:32] <triad> i prefer fedora for my notebook :)
[00:32] <exutux> brandonj: but isn't RH and it doesn't has support like RH
[00:32] <Cromat> I never could get use to fedora
[00:32] <brandonj> exutux: it's pretty much red hat.
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> I'm using xpud more these days
[00:33] <triad> Cromat: what's so different ?
[00:33] <Debolaz> brandonj: And you get no (Official) support contracts for CentOS, which means I certainly wouldn't recommend it for "enterprise" use. And then what's the point? Using it for the sake of using it?
[00:33] <triad> i like fedora because it gets installed very easy with XFCE
[00:33] <triad> gnome crashes at me i think
[00:33] <triad> in fact, i never tested on this netbook
[00:33] <triad> i think i might definitly move to ubuntu
[00:33] <Cromat> triad: Not sure, I don't know rpm really and it just felt uncomfortable.  Might have to give it another try but in the past I had nothing but hardware problems
[00:34] <brandonj> Debolaz: I'm not advocating it's use, but if you want red hat for some reason, but can't afford the commercial product, use centos
[00:34] <Platypus-Man> is there an easy way to check network traffic in terminal? I just want some basic like % / emgabit used, when I search I only find advanced stuff like packet sniffing, web filtering etc
[00:34] <Cromat> tried: Most likely just bad luck on my part
[00:34] <triad> Cromat: hm..
[00:34] <triad> don't know what to say
[00:34] <exutux> brandonj: yeah but it doesn't matetr with discussion :D
[00:34] <Cromat> tried: I'll give it another go now
[00:34] <Cromat> been wanting to do a nothing install on empty drive
[00:34] <triad> i'll check on youtube to see how it works ubuntu on my netbook :)
[00:35] <Debolaz> brandonj: It's just that I can't think of any reason why one would want that. Ubuntu just seems like a superior choice as server compared to RH/CentOS in all but some very, very specific cases.
[00:35] <exutux> Platypus-Man: iftop
[00:35] <exutux> Platypus-Man: or iptraf
[00:35] <Cromat> triad: Plus the ubuntu community has been more help especially for my Asus Zenbook...
[00:36] <Cromat> lol -- tried: The requested URL /pub/linux/fedora/releases/17/Live/x86_64/Fedora-17-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso was not found on this server
[00:36] <triad> :))
[00:36] <triad> fedora doesn't want you
[00:36] <Cromat> triad: see bad luck :)
[00:36] <Platypus-Man> exutux: thanks
[00:37] <Cromat> just a bad mirror going now
[00:37] <brandonj> Debolaz: I tend to agree, but I wouldn't say Ubuntu "blows away" RHEL.  Debian might, though.
[00:37] <Cromat> Does anyone here use SublimeText2? Is it worth the 59.99?
[00:37] <Debolaz> Cromat: Imho, yes.
[00:38] <exutux> Platypus-Man: not at all :)
[00:38] <Debolaz> Cromat: I use it on Mac, Windows, and Linux and it's my preferred editor in all those environments.
[00:38] <Cromat> Debolaz: Is the license good across all os's
[00:38] <dj_segfault> How does SublimeText2 compare to, say, JEdit?
[00:39] <Debolaz> Cromat: Yes.
[00:39] <Cromat> Debolaz: I have a mac book pro at work, and I use only linux at home
[00:39] <exutux> brandonj: what is the difference from debian and ubuntu?
[00:39] <Cromat> Debolaz: cool, then I might have to get it
[00:39] <exutux> brandonj: by using them for server?
[00:39] <Debolaz> Cromat: Keep in mind that you can evaluate sublime for free.
[00:39] <Debolaz> Cromat: So you can see if you like it before you buy it.
[00:39] <Cromat> yea downloading it now
[00:39] <Debolaz> dj_segfault: Never tried jedit.
[00:40] <cschrider> hello
[00:40] <dj_segfault> http://www.jedit.org
[00:40] <Asad2005> How can i get rid off disabled sources enteries aft dist upgrade
[00:40] <Debolaz> dj_segfault: Given that jedit is written in Java, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that sublime is probably more snappy. :)
[00:40] <brandonj> exutux: debian stable undergoes more rigorous testing and auditing, imo, and it seems (to me) to be more stable running in a server environment
[00:40] <exutux> brandonj: for example if you need a web server... why you choose debian instead of Ubuntu server?
[00:41] <cschrider> I just installed 12.04 and now I am trying to get a netgear MA311 wireless card to work.
[00:41] <Debolaz> Cromat: Btw, you can install sublime through apt-get: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/sublime-text-20-stable-released-ppa.html
[00:41] <dj_segfault> Debolaz: That's a safe assumption, yes.
[00:41] <exutux> brandonj: how I said above... debian is old, for that reason is considered stable
[00:41] <Cromat> Debolaz: Cool I just downloaded the tarball
[00:42] <triad> I have 1 GB DDR3, 1 GHz, ASUS EEE PC Seashell Series X1015BX - how it will work ?
[00:42] <brandonj> exutux: debian isn't 'old'?
[00:42] <exutux> but it doeasn't matter with server edition
[00:42] <Cromat> Debolaz: But the ppa might have unity integration by default
[00:42] <Debolaz> Cromat: Installing through the PPA has the advantage that it will integrate it properly into your system.
[00:42] <cschrider> the card is installed in the machine but I don't think it was detected.
[00:42] <Cromat> true
[00:42] <exutux> brandonj: debian packages are older than Ubuntu packages
[00:42] <cschrider> there doesn't seem to be any wlan networking loaded
[00:43] <Debolaz> triad: Ubuntu should run fine on that. I have a rather old netbook with 1 GB RAM myself, and Ubuntu has no problems running on it.
[00:43] <Draugauth> Anyone know how I can team my NIC connections?
[00:43] <Debolaz> triad: Remember to install zram though. :)
[00:43] <brandonj> exutux: in debian stable that's often true, but the same will happen when you're on the third year of an LTS ubuntu release as well.  Bleeding edge packages aren't typically a concern when you're running a server.
[00:43] <exutux> triad: if you want a light dm use lubuntu-desktop or XFCE
[00:43] <Artemis3> Debolaz, the fact that something is new, begs for being more careful, older stuff tends to be better supported, you have to check and double check each component support with linux before purchase
[00:44] <zykotick9> Artemis3: +1
[00:44] <Draugauth> I have a Pro/1000 MT Dual Port NIC and I would like to team the connections as the system is going to be a file/media/cloud server for the house.  Anyone know how to go about doing that?
[00:44] <triad> xfce much better. i'll think about it. right now i will still use fedora as desktop and ubuntu as server :)
[00:44] <Debolaz> Artemis3: Yes, but Ubuntu tends to have among the best documentation available for what hardware is supported.
[00:45] <Debolaz> triad: xubuntu gives you a nice XFCE environment out of the box.
[00:45] <exutux> Artemis3: we speaking about servers
[00:45] <Artemis3> triad, indeed, consider Xubuntu which comes with XFCE by default
[00:45] <maheanuu> exutux, can I use  -t *.* and recover everything that I have deleted in the past few days on this drive that I want to recover the books on, it would be better if I couls do that as I have lost other stuff in this circle jerk
[00:46] <Draugauth> I have a Pro/1000 MT Dual Port NIC and I would like to team the connections as the system is going to be a file/media/cloud server for the house.  Anyone know how to go about doing that?
[00:46] <maheanuu> That way I think that i can recover drive to drive and never see my system drive on this machine
[00:46] <exutux> maheanuu: yes you can
[00:47] <exutux> maheanuu: foremost has alot of options
[00:47] <Artemis3> exutux, what about servers?
[00:48] <exutux> Artemis3: discussion was about choose between debian and ubuntu server
[00:48] <maheanuu> extux, being rather new and really old, I can really get myself in a lot of trouble rather rapidly
[00:48] <Vyk2> anyone know a program like linx for ubuntu?
[00:48] <Artemis3> exutux, i believe someone asked about an eeepc surely not a server ;)
[00:48] <W4sp> Vyk2: Is it Lynx?
[00:49] <exutux> Artemis3: yeah you have to read above..more above :D
[00:49] <exutux> Artemis3: btw was all OT
[00:49] <Debolaz> exutux: Context is overrated.
[00:49] <brandonj> Vyk2: you're going to have to describe what linx is
[00:49] <exutux> Debolaz: right
[00:49] <Vyk2> W4sp: a program that allows you to stress test your CPU giving you a value in Gflops
[00:49] <exutux> Artemis3: so forget my sentence :D
[00:50] <brandonj> Vyk2: you could just try to compile libreoffice
[00:50] <W4sp> Vyk2: Thanks for clarification.
[00:50] <Artemis3> exutux, you mean your ot talk about debian vs ubuntu? well we can try this in offtopic :)
[00:50] <Vyk2> i'd need a program that allows me to compare CPUs in gflops
[00:50] <exutux> Artemis3: yeah I just said that
[00:51] <exutux> Vyk2: stress
[00:51] <Vyk2> i want to get rid of windows, so i don't want to boot that useless OS just to do that
[00:51] <Draugauth> I have a Pro/1000 MT Dual Port NIC and I would like to team the connections as the system is going to be a file/media/cloud server for the house.  Anyone know how to go about doing that?
[00:51] <exutux> or cpuburn uhmm
[00:51] <exutux> !info cpuburn
[00:51] <Vyk2> i'm not actually trying to stress test the CPU, i would like to get a gflop value out of it
[00:52] <cschrider> so how does this work? do I need to be in a queue or something to ask questions?
[00:52] <brandonj> cschrider: just ask your question :)
[00:52] <Debolaz> cschrider: Just ask.
[00:53] <Elchzard> cschrider: Nope, just ask away and if someone can answer they will
[00:53] <W4sp> cschrider: Just ask your question, providing details.
[00:53] <cschrider> ok, I just install 12.04 and now I am trying to get it to work with my netgear MA311 wireless card
[00:53] <Vyk2> exutux: oh i see what you meant there
[00:54] <cschrider> it looks like it isn't even detecting the card. there isn't any indication of anything wlan being installed
[00:54] <Artemis3> exutux, for non support talk please join #ubuntu-offtopic, repeat the question there :)
[00:54] <Draugauth> I have a Pro/1000 MT Dual Port NIC and I would like to team the connections as the system is going to be a file/media/cloud server for the house.  Anyone know how to go about doing that?
[00:54] <cschrider> I tried installing linux-wlan-ng but I'm sure what to do with it next
[00:54] <W4sp> cschrider: Did you check what dmesg has to offer?
[00:55] <exutux> Vyk2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1004406
[00:56] <exutux> Artemis3: I have no question and I have my own opinion about that thanks
[00:56] <cschrider> sorry, I didn't -- I'm kind of a noob at this though I have some experience. Networking has always just worked so I didn't have to mess with it
[00:56] <cschrider> looking at dmesg now
[00:56] <DrManhattan> whats the difference in CPU load for fakeraid vs software raid?
[00:57] <W4sp> Draugauth: Is that's bonding ...? Have two NICs that seemling are one interface?
[00:57] <Draugauth> fakeraid and software raid are basically the same.  I think you mean hardware raid (where the controller handles all the raid duties) and fakeraid where the system handles the raid duties
[00:58] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Could be.  Intell calls it Teaming but yes where 2 or more nics act as 1 interface
[00:58] <Artemis3> DrManhattan, fakeraid in linux is not a good idea, to say the least; even if they had the same cpu usage; you are better off with soft, for reliability, and portability, or even options
[00:58] <DrManhattan> yeah and I can mix raid types with software raid
[00:59] <brandonj> klkjklkjklkjklk
[00:59] <brandonj> dammit
[00:59] <jpmh> I have 12.4 and have used SETTINGS?DISPLAY LOCK but it does not lock, why not
[00:59] <DrManhattan> ie /boot=raid1 /=raid1 swap=raid0
[00:59] <W4sp> Draugauth: You can load balance them.
[00:59] <DrManhattan> thansk Artemis3
[00:59] <W4sp> Draugauth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[00:59] <Draugauth> DrManhattan:  I hear ZFS is very good to use.   I plan on testing it out at some point but right now my raid controller handles all my raid duties instead of the filesystem/fs
[00:59] <cschrider> ok, what am I looking for in dmesg?
[00:59] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Ok thank you
[00:59] <brandonj> Draugauth: I used to use something called ifenslave to accomplish teaming, but that was a long time ago
[01:00] <Draugauth> brandonj:  Alright I will look at ifenslave as well.  Thank you
[01:00] <ratcheer> When I worked on big systems, we used a combination of hardware and software RAID
[01:00] <W4sp> Draugauth: brandonj Yes, that's what you should digest.
[01:00] <cschrider> W4sp: what am I looking for in dmesg?  I don't see anyting related to wlan, MA311 or prism drivers
[01:01] <brandonj> cschrider: is that a pci or usb wireless card?
[01:01] <cschrider> brandonj: pci
[01:01] <W4sp> cschrider: YOu can see what devices are detected. That is, even if there is no driver it tells you it what hardware is available. Among other things, of course.
[01:01] <brandonj> cschrider: does it show up in 'lspci'?
[01:03] <nasa01> W4sp, howdy -- http://pastebin.com/deiT9RUK  && https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/205302 (I did come on the other day, but missed you)
[01:03] <DrManhattan> Artemis3, you know what else - I forgot I have mixed drives - two 320bg WD drives but one with 8mb and one with 16mb cache
[01:03] <cschrider> brandonj: no, it does not seem to be in lspci
[01:03] <DrManhattan> this is not a problem with software eaid
[01:03] <DrManhattan> raid
[01:04] <W4sp> nasa01: YEah, the dbus issue.
[01:05]  * nasa01 hopes there is a solution out there -- but not holding his breath
[01:06]  * W4sp wonders if nasa01 has inhaled by now.
[01:06] <W4sp> nasa01: I don't have a solution. I mentioned in this channel you may contact the author.
[01:07] <nasa01> It's all good.  I thought I would just close the loop
[01:07]  * W4sp gets very nosy now.
[01:07] <W4sp> nasa01: WHat was it...?
[01:08] <Artemis3> DrManhattan, soft raid is very forgiving, of course you will have reduced performance, but even green drives will work (albeit slowly, and you should disable that parking stuff lol)
[01:08] <servvs> well that was fun, I just got some crazy errors after updating
[01:08] <servvs> took me about 2 hours to get my system running agin
[01:08] <DrManhattan> Artemis3, reduced performance vs "fakeraid"?
[01:09] <nasa01> ??
[01:09] <W4sp> nasa01: Well. Did you find a solution?
[01:10] <nasa01> W4sp, I put a question on launchpad, but I haven't tried contacting the developers directly -- and no I live with the problem still today
[01:10] <nasa01> :{
[01:10]  * DrManhattan gives Artemis3 a violent shake
[01:10] <W4sp> nasa01: That's a shame. I have no solution either. :-(
[01:11] <Draugauth> Is there a program for seeing disk and ethernet utilization?
[01:12] <W4sp> Draugauth: iotop...?
[01:12] <Draugauth> W4sp:  will that let me see how much utilization is being done the raid controller or the R6?
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> Draugauth: ntop for the network
[01:13] <Vyk2> exutux: this program seems great but it seems they discontinued the project.. the donload is not available anymore
[01:13] <Draugauth> ActionParsnip:  thank you
[01:15] <W4sp> Draugauth: It shows you th e disk utilisation, for network activity you may find ntop useful. But it is huge.
[01:16] <Draugauth> well I'm trying to figure out where the hangup is.   I haven't bonded the nics together yet but I'm not even hitting 50% of what 1GB should be.
[01:17] <Bethy> hey could anyone help me? i have a samsung n130 netbook running Ubuntu 12.04 and the wireless internet connection switches on and off. i am a new Ubuntu user, any help would be muchly appreciated ^__^
[01:18] <Draugauth> Bethy:  Be careful you're not hitting the power switch for the wireless nic.  Happens all the time.
[01:19] <Bethy> no thats not the problem, i had windows xp running on this before, and i never had this problem
[01:19] <Draugauth> Bethy:  Are you losing power or getting disconnected?
[01:20] <Bethy> getting disconnected from wifi hub
[01:21] <blazingtruth> hi all, i just downloaded ubuntu today (win7 xps 15z) and i'm not entirely sure how to get dual boot starting. i want win7 as primary
[01:21] <Draugauth> Bethy:  Do you have an android phone?  if so download wifi analyzer and watch the signal strength on the router.  It might be crapping out on you.  Can also use that app to find less clogged channels.
[01:22] <Draugauth> blazingtruth:  http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/05/17/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7/
[01:22] <Bethy> i have a iphone
[01:22] <jrib> blazingtruth: install ubuntu.  During install you can choose to keep windows around.  Afterwards,  you can change what boots by default (see ubottu)
[01:22] <jrib> !grub | blazingtruth
[01:22] <Draugauth> Bethy:  try seeing if you can find an app that will pick up Wireless APs and show their signal strength.
[01:22] <Bethy> okies
[01:23] <cfhowlett> blazingtruth: back up your windows data, take your time, follow the dualboot tutorial and happy buntu times...
[01:23] <Draugauth> W4sp:  How do you start iotop?  I installed it but can't find it with the Unity hub
[01:23] <W4sp> Draugauth: Just sudo iotop
[01:24] <Draugauth> W4sp: kk ty
[01:26] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Any ideas on how to speed up a R6 array using a hardware controller?
[01:26] <W4sp> Draugauth: Sorry, no. The ntop is a big one and requires a daemon to run, btw.
[01:27] <Draugauth> W4sp:  That explains why it quit.  What daemon do I need to run for it?
[01:27] <maheanuu> exutux, I am trying to write the command line for foremost, and do I need to put in the -h  after the -v?  Also, the drive I want to recover the files from is /dev/sdb1 and the one I want to use as the drop is /dev/sdc1 and I am not sure what all the files were in the directory but they were text and audio (mp3) for the most part.  can I use as the directory  *ebooks* as a wild card?
[01:28] <W4sp> Draugauth: Did you install it? You are being asked for a password that you later need to attach a client to it.
[01:28] <W4sp> Draugauth: I don't have it installed on the system I'm using right now.
[01:28] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Ok I'll work on it later.  Guess I should focus on trying to improve the speed of the R6 array ;)
[01:30] <W4sp> Draugauth: Is it for a server, eg many io requests from different users?
[01:30] <maheanuu> exutux, I know that I have to be sudo to run, but I will NOT run it until I am sure that my command line is absolutely correct as I want to recoup as much as I can
[01:31] <Bethy> Draugauth: there doesnt seem to be any problems with the router.
[01:31] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Home server.   will have 10+ devices connecting to it at any given time.   Trying to get myself caught up on what has happened in the IT world ;)  Also got WHS coming in next week.
[01:31] <Draugauth> Bethy:  So the signal strength is staying steady right?
[01:32] <W4sp> Draugauth: I trust you are aware that 2008 requires 2GB to idle. ;-)
[01:32] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Server has 8GB of ram.
[01:35] <Draugauth> W4sp:  the server is a Core 2 Duo X6800 on an Asus P5N-SLI motherboard with 8GB of ram (16GB was just to expensive lol) Highpoint Rocketraid 3560 Raid Controller, and a few other goodies
[01:35] <W4sp> Draugauth: All this to proxy IRC on freenode? Just joking.
[01:36] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Well I am gunna use the system to setup a cloud service for friends and family, provide backup services for friends and family, and provide multimedia to the household.
[01:37] <W4sp> Draugauth: Any chance to assist Bethy ? I wonder if it is a powe management thing. On OpenBSD there's a ifconfig <if> -nopowersave that does not seem to exist on Ubuntu.
[01:38] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Well I'm waiting to her from her if the signal strength is staying steady.   Not sure what else.  My laptop that had linux on it got stolen about a year ago ;(
[01:38] <W4sp> Draugauth: There's a way to disable power management per device in a config file but can't remember where it is. :-(
[01:39] <Bethy> Draugauth: the signal strength is nice and steady
[01:39] <W4sp> Draugauth: That sounds exciting. Will you use pf as a firewall?
[01:40] <Draugauth> Bethy:  Hrmm  have you tried loading a different driver for the wireless?   It shouldn't be dropping the connection if the signal strength is steady.  Let me look something up
[01:41] <Draugauth> W4sp:  Not right now.  I have a nice router to handle that and 2 24 port gigabit managed switches coming to play with as well
[01:41] <Bethy> Draugauth:  awww thankyou, im new to Ubuntu, i really appreciate this ^__^
[01:41] <W4sp> Bethy: Do you ahve the Realtek RTL8192E WiFi card in you laptop?
[01:42]  * cfhowlett bets she's got broadcom
[01:42] <Bethy> W4ap: how would one find that out? :)
[01:42] <Draugauth> Bethy:  Disable IPV6 on it and see if that helps.
[01:43] <Bethy> Draugauth: how do i do that?
[01:43] <Draugauth> Bethy:  Click on the network icon and click configure network
[01:43] <Bethy> :S
[01:43] <Draugauth> Bethy:  Then go to wireless if memory serves
[01:44] <Bethy> ah okies, ty
[01:47] <Kre10s_> make: avr32-gcc: Command not found... the only avr package in synaptic is gcc-avr. where do i get avr32-gcc from? is this an alias to something else?
[01:48] <Bethy> Draugauth:  done it, deleted them, and re connected to the network, just waiting to see if it stops, thankyou for helping
[01:48] <Draugauth> Bethy:  No problem.  If it doesn't we'll try checking the drivers and see if we can find you updated ones or not.
[01:50] <Bethy> Draugauth: ahh, no luck, it done it again lol
[01:51] <Draugauth> Bethy:  dang ok click the Unity icon in the top right and search for "additional drivers"
[01:52] <Bethy> Draugauth:  i tried that and there was no additional drivers available. (a friend helpd with that lol)
[01:53] <Draugauth> Bethy:  not sure what else then.   Someone asked if you had a broadcom.   Is the laptop setup for dual boot so you still have windows?
[01:53] <cfhowlett> Bethy: broadcom: yes or no?
[01:54] <W4sp> Bethy: Could you let us know your WiFi card. Open a terminal with Alt+Ctrl+t and type in lspci
[01:54]  * W4sp cfhowlett may now lose or win the bet.
[01:54] <zykotick9> Bethy: "lspci | grep -i network" might show you less output (might not show wireless though :(
[01:54] <AcidRain> ill say this. fedora 17 is nice now that i got the MATE-desktop super pimped out.
[01:54] <Bethy> Draugauth:  no, just Ubuntu.
[01:54] <Bethy> just a sec...
[01:55] <AcidRain> but... i just dont like fedora. its not as good as ubuntu. what is everyones favorite flavor?
[01:55] <AcidRain> i want to install something better.
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: lubuntu imho
[01:55] <AcidRain> also i will say this, ubuntu and windows xp suck at handling my wireless driver. fedora is epic with it
[01:55] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, why do you like lubuntu?
[01:55] <AcidRain> imma google it now
[01:55] <cfhowlett> W4sp: so it's broadcom then?
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: because when you sk it to do something, it just does it and doesn't dance around
[01:56] <W4sp> cfhowlett: I don't know yet. We're awaiting the output of lspci with eager anticipation.
[01:56] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, what seems to be the difference between ubuntu and lubuntu?
[01:57] <AcidRain> im lookinng to do alot of perl programming
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: it uses LXDE as the desktop and openbox as the WM
[01:57] <AcidRain> the gedit in fedora is even down graded from that of ubuntu
[01:57] <Bethy> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[01:57] <Bethy> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[01:57] <Bethy> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[01:57] <Bethy> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:57] <Bethy> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
[01:57] <FloodBot1> Bethy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:57] <Vyk2> i see that my CPU speed is changing between1.6 ghz to 3.3 ghz
[01:57] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip, I am trying to understand and write the command line for foremost, and I am not understanding everything that it wants nor the format of the line, could you help me on this?
[01:57] <W4sp> !pastebin
[01:57] <Vyk2> why is that?
[01:58] <Draugauth> going afk
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> Vyk2: it willclock up and down as needed
[01:59] <kameron> is it possible to have one machine provide an X session for a completely separate set of keyboard/mouse/monitor? for multi users at once?
[01:59] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, so its good as if not better than ubuntu, especially since it uses LXDE, which appears to be close to gnome2
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> maheanuu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Foremost
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: better is an opinion, so is never concrete
[02:00] <AcidRain> lol
[02:00] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, so what is your opinion?
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: lxde rocks, try it
[02:00] <AcidRain> honestly, cause im rly gonna format now if u say its better
[02:00] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, then ill brb in about 1 hr ;)
[02:01] <AcidRain2012> ActionParsnip: ill be right here.
[02:01] <DrManhattan> whats the command to restart networking in 12.04
[02:02] <Vyk2> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/tTEhwriR
[02:02] <DrManhattan> the modern equiv of /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: sudo service networking restart
[02:02] <AcidRain2012> omg. 10min download
[02:02] <Bethy> thanks for all the help but i have to go x
[02:02] <Vyk2> the 1st one wan @ 1.6ghz and the problem size doesnt matter, cause i made several b4 all with 10000 and 1.6ghz
[02:03] <Vyk2> god 40 gflops sucks so much
[02:04] <W4sp> Ooops. Now we will never find out cfhowlett
[02:05] <cfhowlett> W4sp: dang.
[02:07] <DrManhattan> ActionParsnip, stop: Unknown Instance
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: then use status instead
[02:07] <Shazer[2]> Hi.
[02:07] <Shazer[2]> :)
[02:08] <Shazer[2]> i have downloaded Sublime Text 2, and I've extracted it now I need to run the binary.
[02:08] <DrManhattan> whats the console app to config your networking
[02:08] <Shazer[2]> I've done ./sublime_text but it says no such file or directory.
[02:08] <Shazer[2]> Double clicking also won't open it.
[02:08] <Shazer[2]> Anyone have any ideas?
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: are you in the same folder as the file?
[02:09] <Shazer[2]> ActionParsnip, yes, I am.
[02:10] <cvr> Shazer[2]: I just downloaded and extracted the file works fine from here
[02:10] <Shazer[2]> Any idea why it would say that?
[02:10] <Shazer[2]> Hmm :(
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: and is the file marked as executable?, you can check with: ls -l ./sublime_text
[02:10] <Shazer[2]> That's all I tried too.
[02:11] <Shazer[2]> shannon@ubuntu:~/Downloads/Sublime Text 2$ ls -l ./sublime_text -rwxr-xr-x 1 shannon shannon 7972576 Jul 14 10:07 ./sublime_text
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: looks fine
[02:12] <Shazer[2]> But then
[02:12] <Shazer[2]> shannon@ubuntu:~/Downloads/Sublime Text 2$ ./sublime_text bash: ./sublime_text: No such file or directory
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: does it run ok with gksudo?
[02:13] <DrManhattan> yeah sudo service stop doesn't work
[02:13] <cvr> Shazer[2]: did u get the 64/32 bit that suits your install?
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: use TAB to complete the service name
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> cvr: I think you got it
[02:13] <Shazer[2]> I got, Python 2.7.3 compressed source tarball (for Linux, Unix or Mac OS X)
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: what is the output of:   uname -a; file ./sublime_text
[02:14] <Shazer[2]> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/3TV9C2ke
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> cvr: you win
[02:15] <Shazer[2]> What's the problem?
[02:15] <cvr> Shazer[2]: get the 64bit download
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: you have a 32bit ap when your ubuntu is 64bit
[02:15] <Shazer[2]> I don't see a 64-bit link?
[02:15] <Shazer[2]> Oh, right nevermind xD
[02:18] <Shazer[2]> Right now..
[02:18] <Shazer[2]> Is there anyway I can get some files from my windows partition on ubuntu?
[02:18] <dj_segfault> In 10.04 (Gnome 2) is there a way to get X to redetect monitors without logging out?  I hook up a TV to the external port, but if I logged in without that hooked up...
[02:19] <dylan> Shazer[2]:You should be able to mount the windows partition
[02:19] <Shazer[2]> dylan, what do I need to do?
[02:19] <Shazer[2]> I'm completely noob to this.
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: Ubuntu can read NTFS natively. If you used wubi you can use the /hosts folder
[02:19] <Shazer[2]> Oh
[02:19] <AcidRain2012> ActionParsnip: burning to disk
[02:19] <AcidRain2012> ActionParsnip: oh its done ;)
[02:20] <dylan> Shazer[2]: when you open your home folder, you should see something under devices like "64GB Filesystem" or however big your windows partiton is
[02:20] <Shazer[2]> Thanks :)
[02:21] <dylan> Shazer[2]
[02:21] <dylan> whoops
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> Shazer[2]: could just use this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/sublime-text-2?field.series_filter=precise
[02:22] <AcidRain2012> i wonder if there is a way to take every single bit of configuration related to a certain program ex postfix, ices, mumble, esc, and put them onto lubuntu. just in the even that ActionPartition's opinion is right about it, and it, i quote: "rapes" ;p
[02:24] <AcidRain2012> fedora was fast, but poor software center handling, and in my opinion, functionality was low on linux part, and it was hard to do normal ubuntu things
[02:24] <dylan> I had the same experience
[02:29] <AcidRain2012> ActionParsnip: with lubuntu, during the install, it is already failing to connect to the router. :/
[02:29] <AcidRain2012> fedora is better here once more, but i can cope with it
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain2012: its the same OS as Ubuntu, just a different DE/WM thats all
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain2012: so if you had that with Ubuntu, it will be the same in Lubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu
[02:30] <dylan> Then again I was using fedora 14, not the new one
[02:30] <dj_segfault> ActionParsnip: I checked out Sublime since it was mentioned here earlier.  Very impressive.  It seems to have all the key features I like about JEdit, though the documentation is much lighter.
[02:30] <Hijaked> boom
[02:31] <vaks3> anyone know how I can check what kind of vid card my computer will accept I have a desktop and want to buy a new one
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> dj_segfault: cool, if you like it use it :)
[02:31] <vaks3> but I dunno if its PCI 2.0 or w/e
[02:31] <AcidRain2012> ActionParsnip: ouch....
[02:31] <dj_segfault> ActionParsnip: are you associated with that project, or you just like it?
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> vaks3: ask in #hardware
[02:31] <AcidRain2012> ActionParsnip: so im gussing kubuntu is KXDE and x is XXDE?
[02:32] <AcidRain2012> lol
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> dj_segfault: I don't even use it, I use leafpad and nano. A user was simply asking about it
[02:32] <cfhowlett> *xfce*
[02:32] <dylan> vaks3: try #hardware
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain2012: KDE and XFCE, but yes
[02:32] <dj_segfault> vaks3: If you google the motherboard you should be able to find out
[02:32] <vaks3> thx guys
[02:32] <pnorman> For some reason when I do apt-get no-install-recommends remove libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 it wants to *install* dbus-x11 as well as remove parts of postgresql. How could I find out why it wants to do these actions?
[02:32] <dylan> np
[02:33] <pnorman> er, -- in front of no-install-recommends
[02:33] <dj_segfault> pnorman: Could that mean it thinks that package is no longer being used?  Can you try Synaptic and see what it says?
[02:34] <pnorman> dj_segfault: the list for automatically installed and no longer required is a different list
[02:34] <pnorman> dj_segfault: How would I use synaptic?
[02:34] <dj_segfault> Do you have GUI or is this a server?
[02:34] <AcidRain2012> just cause its a server, doesnt mean theres no gui ;) just sayin
[02:35] <IDWMaster> Hi. I was installing Ubuntu on a computer which previously had Windows on it.
[02:35] <dylan> my server has a gui...
[02:35] <dj_segfault> AcidRain2012: Agreed.  I can't imagine setting up a server without GUI but a lot of people here do.
[02:35] <IDWMaster> I used the installer provided to attempt to resize the partition
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> dylan: then its a desktop OS
[02:35] <IDWMaster> It was resizing for about a few hours
[02:35] <IDWMaster> then stopped
[02:35] <IDWMaster> and said that the resize operation had failed
[02:35] <IDWMaster> I tried to reboot the computer off of Windows
[02:36] <IDWMaster> it would not boot
[02:36] <pnorman> No GUI. I'm not actually sure off hand if I installed with a -server image, but I don't think that's what you're really interested in
[02:36] <rypervenche> dj_segfault: All you need are SSH and vim, nuff said :)
[02:36] <dj_segfault> IDWMaster: Did you intend to REPLACE windows or install alongside of it.
[02:36] <IDWMaster> The drive no longer shows in partition editor
[02:36] <IDWMaster> Install alongside it
[02:36] <IDWMaster> I selected that option
[02:36] <dylan> why does it need to lack a gui?
[02:36] <IDWMaster> There was an error during resize
[02:36] <IDWMaster> and now all data on the drive seems to be lost
[02:36] <cfhowlett> IDWMaster: don't panic.
[02:36] <AcidRain2012> IDWMaster: more than likely u didnt. that screen is very tricky and has honestly tricked me in the past. fucked up cause i lost everything.
[02:36] <IDWMaster> Is there any way to recover it?
[02:36] <cfhowlett> IDWMaster: DO NOT panic.
[02:36] <AcidRain2012> it needs to be in big bold letters. WILL ERASE ALL
[02:37] <AcidRain2012> lol
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> dylan: securty, resources and boot time are 3 I can think of quiickly
[02:37] <IDWMaster> It is in big red letters
[02:37] <IDWMaster> I didn't choose that option
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> IDWMaster: use yorbackups
[02:37] <IDWMaster> Resize failed because system ran out of RAM
[02:37] <AcidRain2012> IDWMaster: oh rly
[02:37] <cfhowlett> IDWMaster: reboot your ubuntu disk and see if the windows partition is still there.
[02:37] <AcidRain2012> IDWMaster: must just been to blazed :P
[02:37] <IDWMaster> It doesn't show up in partition editor or Nautilus
[02:37] <dylan> those are just reasons not to have one, there is no law that states "Servers must lack a Graphical User INterface"
[02:37] <dj_segfault> Many sysadmins feel the more software you have installed, the more potential for security problems, and the more daemons running the same thing
[02:38] <IDWMaster> Are there any tools I can use to recover the data?
[02:38] <cfhowlett> IDWMaster: it MIGHT be gone.  Boot your windows disk and run windows repair
[02:38] <MonkeyDust> !recover
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> IDWMaster: foremost possibly, backups will easily restore the data
[02:38] <IDWMaster> This particular system was never backed up
[02:39] <IDWMaster> I've tried testdisk
[02:39] <IDWMaster> can't find the partition
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> IDWMaster: why did you not run a full backup before doing something so drastic?
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> IDWMaster: is your data not important?
[02:39] <IDWMaster> Installed Ubuntu on so many computers before, it's never had a problem partitioning
[02:39]  * cfhowlett ...not gonna say it, not gonna say it ...
[02:40] <IDWMaster> Is there a way in Ubuntu to recover such lost data?
[02:40] <IDWMaster> Or should I contact a forensics specialist
[02:40] <IDWMaster> Or should I contact a forensics specialist?
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> IDWMaster: the default can, just install foremost
[02:40] <dylan> IDWMaster: try somethign like scalper
[02:40] <dylan> scalpel*
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> IDWMaster: you have learned the value of backup the ardest way.
[02:40] <AcidRain2012> IDWMaster: a forensics specialist can only find out what you looked at, and what you did. not the contents of files
[02:40] <dylan> you want file recovery
[02:40] <AcidRain2012> after a partition that is. that is to my understanding what i read from a FBI book
[02:40] <cfhowlett> IDWMaster: imagine IT Tech Yoda: ALWAYS back up your data, you must!
[02:41] <pnorman> I guess what I want to do is figure out the dependency connection between libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 and the other packages
[02:41] <dylan> That's why I have so many cloud accounts
[02:41] <AcidRain2012> cfhowlett: it would be: "Yoda: back up your data always, you must! uhmmmumm
[02:41] <AcidRain2012> lol
[02:41] <dylan> Ubuntu One, Dropbox, Pogoplug, SkyDrive, Icloud
[02:41] <dylan> and a personal server
[02:41] <pnorman> AcidRain2012: did you try the links that ubottu suggested?
[02:42] <AcidRain2012> pnorman: for what?
[02:42] <pnorman> AcidRain2012: whoops, wrong person
[02:43] <pnorman> AcidRain2012: although a data recovery company could likely recover the contents of files, assuming you didn't do anything like encrypt the disk or use fakeraid
[02:44] <AcidRain2012> pnorman: how is that possible? i read in the fbi book, they carry around a briefcase that can clone your hdd. then take it back to the lab, and pull up allocated asm data and hex positioning in some type of table and can accurately guestimate what you did
[02:47] <Platypus-Man> when Challenger exploded, they managed to locate enough of the hdd platters, and fix them up enough to extract data... so yeah, when you can't blow it up with rocket fuel your data can pretty much always be extracted if you throw enough money at it
[02:47] <IDWMaster> Can this company do it? http://www.securedatarecovery.com/hard-drive-data-recovery.html
[02:47] <IDWMaster> Data was lost on an NTFS partition
[02:47] <Debolaz> Which is why you need encryption if you want to really prevent someone from getting your data.
[02:47] <AcidRain2012> Platypus-Man: but the difference here is, that was rocket fuel, this is a repartitioning and format
[02:48] <AcidRain2012> not only a repartitioning, but a fail
[02:48] <IDWMaster> How much money do I need to throw at it?
[02:48] <pnorman> IDWMaster: I've heard that recovery prices start at around $250-$500
[02:49] <CerebralVortex> IDWMaster: At that price you need to decide how valuable that data actually is...
[02:50] <AcidRain2012> IDWMaster: do you have access to tax payer money?
[02:50] <IDWMaster> I wish
[02:50] <AcidRain2012> yeah your screwed
[02:50] <AcidRain2012> lol
[02:50] <pnorman> ah, i figured out why it wants to remove parts of postgresql. postgis depends on gtk
[02:50] <CerebralVortex> IDWMaster: I had a friend use this before not sure if it will apply to your situation : http://www.easeus.com/datarecoverywizard/recover-repartitioned-drives.htm
[02:50] <cfhowlett> *you're* your
[02:51] <AcidRain2012> cfhowlett: cmon man. dont be one of those people
[02:52] <cfhowlett> AcidRain2012: OMG.  I AM one of those people!
[02:52] <CerebralVortex> lol
[02:52] <AcidRain2012> noooooooooooooo your to far gone
[02:52] <malucious> can someone help me with my canon printer? Interesting problem
[02:52] <AcidRain2012> dont correct my nooooooo, your, or to
[02:52] <AcidRain2012> its internet
[02:52] <CerebralVortex> AcidRain2012: lol
[02:52] <cfhowlett> malucious: state the issue
[02:53] <Hijaked> word
[02:54] <malucious> cfhowlett, the yellow tank is empty on my printer. in windows i get a prompt that allows me to ignore and continue printing my document. in ubuntu I get no prompt so the printer will not finish the job
[02:55] <[Toto]> hello my su command no work i got this Cannot execute /bin/bash : No such file or directory
[02:55] <[Toto]> i m talk abour su user
[02:55] <cfhowlett> malucious: nice!  what a great ubuntu challenge!  *Obviously, I don't have the answer...*
[02:56] <cfhowlett> malucious: does Canon provide a printer driver for this device?
[02:56] <malucious> cfhowlett, i haven't checked their site.
[02:57] <cfhowlett> malucious: recommended.  a Canon driver probably works better than a 3rd party driver.
[02:59] <[Toto]> http://pastie.org/4458677
[02:59] <malucious> cfhowlett, just checked their site. no support
[02:59] <[Toto]> anyone give me a hand ?
[02:59] <cfhowlett> malucious: ok.  stay in this channel and re-ask every 15 minutes or so.  also do a search for linux+ubuntu+your printer
[03:00] <malucious> cfhowlett, alright. Thanks for the help though
[03:00] <BIOS_Update> Hi, Is there any BIOS update tool for ubuntu (using phoenix award bios)?
[03:00] <cfhowlett> malucious: best of luck
[03:01] <BIOS_Update> Cussrent BIOS version is 1, from 2005.
[03:01] <BIOS_Update> Current**
[03:01] <cfhowlett> BIOS_Update: dell had one ...
[03:01] <BIOS_Update> I got a Medion PC.
[03:02] <kexibq> hi guys, i have a machine running ubuntu at work, would it be possible to connect to it from home and use irc remotely?
[03:02] <kexibq> same session on both machines sort of
[03:02] <cfhowlett> kexibq: yes:  vinagre
[03:03] <zykotick9> kexibq: i use irssi in a screen session remotely on a regular basis, right now infact...
[03:03] <Calahan> kexibq just ssh to your work marchine and use irc?
[03:04] <Calahan> a lot of irc shell clients out there wonder which is best one
[03:06] <nabawe> test
[03:06] <Calahan> works
[03:06] <nabawe> Ty
[03:06] <Calahan> Enjoy
[03:06] <nabawe> Hellow Underbunty
[03:06] <nabawe> Underbuntuworld
[03:06] <maheanuu> Is there any sensible way to learn the command line?
[03:06] <nabawe> the Man pages
[03:07] <nabawe> also these webs are pretty good
[03:07] <Calahan> maheanuu well each team you need to do somth from command line you learn it :P
[03:07] <maheanuu> The harder I work the more in the crap I get
[03:07] <nabawe> http://ss64.com/bash/
[03:07] <Calahan> maheanuu what you mean?
[03:08] <nabawe> and the wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command-line_interface
[03:08] <maheanuu> I have NO team, I am the only one on an island that uses Ub untu and every one else uses windoze or Crapple
[03:08] <nabawe> check the chart at the bot
[03:09] <maheanuu> I have a real problem with an external disk that stored data and the entire directory somewhere I have no idea where
[03:10] <dj_segfault> maheanuu: You can use the find command to find that file.  Go to the drive and type "find . -name thenameofyourdirectory"
[03:10] <maheanuu> I am trying to use foremost to recover all my books, ebooks, and audio books that dissappeared this morning and I cant make heads or tails out of the command line for foremost
[03:11] <maheanuu> It ISN"T There
[03:11] <maheanuu> Nothing is anywhere on the drive so I must be deleted.....
[03:11] <boolean> evening... looking for a cli based file indexing tool ... anyone ? ( besides doing a massif find and grep script )
[03:12] <Calahan> maheanuu well maybe you accidently deleted files? Imho they aren't there if you cannot find them? Or searching in wrong location.
[03:12] <dj_segfault> maheanuu: Are you absolutely sure the drive is mounted, and you're not just looking at the mount point directory?
[03:12] <maheanuu> dj_seg
[03:12] <maheanuu> Yes the drive is mounted and available, I will not write to it until I recover these files
[03:13] <dj_segfault> maheanuu: Good move.
[03:14] <maheanuu> dj_segfault, I have no idea how it happened, I had used a cut and paste as I was doubling up on files that I had moved from a directory to a sub directory
[03:14] <boolean> maheanuu: ensure that it is read only when mounted to guarantee no change
[03:15]  * boolean is looking for a specific tool that does partition/file recover for ext3 ... gimme a sec
[03:15] <maheanuu> or should I say directories as I have abouty 300 gigs of books there
[03:15] <maheanuu> I am using NTFS
[03:16] <boolean> oh ... then look for any windows style undelete tool
[03:16] <boolean> the net is full of them
[03:16] <FreeFog> Hey there
[03:16] <FreeFog> Any one is versed in the Advanced Format specification from Western Digital?
[03:17] <maheanuu> I use NTFS as every one in my area and I am talking about 5 islands in a group and then the capitol a hundred fifty miles away and they all speak french or tahitian and not a one knows anything about linux
[03:17] <Myrth> hi, i'm trying to skip fsck on boot, and edited the kernel line in boot, added fastboot. but it still auto-runs fsck. what else can i try? thanks
[03:17] <cfhowlett> FreeFog: greetings
[03:17] <FreeFog> Heey there Cfhowlett
[03:18] <FreeFog> any of the Ubuntu IRC branches specializes on fstab and harddrives?
[03:18] <cfhowlett> FreeFog: what's your ubuntu issue?
[03:18] <maheanuu> They have peeps in Papeete who use linux, but very few speak english and even tho I speak French I do not speak or understand technicial french
[03:18] <boolean> Myrth: if during boot, your system is requesting a fsck, you should let it
[03:18] <boolean> Myrth: there is a "dirty
[03:18] <Myrth> boolean, it is a "has gone 224 days without fsck"
[03:18] <boolean> " bit on the fs causing it to launch
[03:19] <newbie|2> Myrth: edit your fstab file
[03:19] <Myrth> boolean: it is more important for me right now to have the server up, than have the profilactic check, which can take hours
[03:19] <Myrth> newbie|2: i can't get to it, because i can't boot the server
[03:19] <boolean> maheanuu: may I suggest then you download hiren's boot cd, boot your box off of that and use the recovery tools there...
[03:19] <newbie|2> use a live cd
[03:20] <FreeFog> I am trying to check if a NTFS drive I use for backups is properly formated under the Advanced Format specification of Western Digital
[03:20] <Myrth> i have remote kvm, and tried remote mount and boot live xubuntu and dsl, but it just gets stuck or too slow
[03:20] <FreeFog> I tested with parted and the align command
[03:20] <maheanuu> BooleaN
[03:20] <FreeFog> but parted (at least in my limited experience) has no way of teling me if the topology was properly set
[03:21] <FreeFog> I really want to know if I achieved the use of 4kB
[03:21] <AcidRain2012> from what i have seen im liking lubuntu
[03:21] <maheanuu> Boolean, the drive is a 1.5 TB and I have a formatted partitioned virgin standing by to do the dump on if I can ever get the gd command line correct
[03:21] <AcidRain2012> i believe i liked fedora just a liiiiiiiiitttle better
[03:21] <FreeFog> I see in parted a phi and logical out put but I am not sure if I achieved what I wanted
[03:21] <[Toto]> i have some problems with /etc/passwd
[03:22] <[Toto]> no one users password works
[03:22] <boolean> Myrth: then take a look at tune2fs to change the interval from X to whatever your heart desires
[03:22] <Myrth> boolean: i can't boot the system
[03:22] <Myrth> the only access i have right now before it starts fsck is grub
[03:23] <Myrth> google shows i have to add "fastboot" to kernel line in grub, but it doesn't help
[03:23] <boolean> maheanuu: another approach might be to use dd the bad disk into an image on the new drive and mount it via loop to see if you can get at it ... ( google search for instructions )
[03:24] <ouyes> any good tutorial about how to use the ubuntu shell, like grep and find, how to write regular expressions( man pages is lack of examples)
[03:24] <jrib> Myrth: what kernel?  What ubuntu version?
[03:25] <boolean> Myrth: if memory servers, while the system does a typical boot up, doesnt it ask you to do the fsck or is it simply forcing it upon you
[03:25] <maheanuu> boolean, I do NOT want to do anything with this drive until I have run foremost, and sure could use some help on the command line
[03:26] <maheanuu> That is all i am asking for
[03:26] <Myrth> jrib: 11.10, 3.0.0-23
[03:26] <chocobogames> question. ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes on my about once a day. everything becomes locked. what steps should i take to identify the cause/resolve the problem, if possible?
[03:27] <maheanuu> I have the bad drive sdb and the new formatted drive sdc I want to do foremost on sdb and dump the files on sdc
[03:27]  * boolean sighs
[03:28] <jrib> Myrth: what are you doing exactly to add the "fastboot" option?
[03:28] <maheanuu> chocobogames, what are you doing when it freezes!?
[03:28] <Myrth> jrib: googling "cancel fsck boot" recommends to add this option to disable fsck
[03:28] <chocobogames> maheanuu, it actually happens randomly. sometimes i'm using chromium, sometimes i'm in eclipse
[03:29] <jrib> Myrth: ok, but that's not my question
[03:29] <chocobogames> maheanuu, nothing about it has been consistent other than that it's a complete freeze
[03:29] <Calahan> maheanuu maybe this helps http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142313/
[03:29] <Myrth> jrib: oh, in grub, click E, go to kernel line, click E, add fastboot, click B
[03:29] <jrib> Myrth: "click E"?
[03:30] <Myrth> jrib: to edit
[03:30] <maheanuu> chocobogames, I had the same problem with 10.04 and found out that Firefox was causing the lockups I downloaded the latest version after I deleted the old one and the problem went away
[03:30] <jrib> Myrth: ok I guess you press e on your keyboard and you probably press something like f10 (can't remember) to actually boot?
[03:31] <Myrth> jrib: the legend on the botton says "B" to boot
[03:31] <Myrth> *bottom
[03:31] <Myrth> which it does
[03:32] <jrib> Myrth: well I'm not sure why fastboot isn't working.  Though on ubuntu, there is usually a message present during fsck that says "press whatever to cancel" while it happens
[03:33] <Myrth> jrib: nope. Esc would cancel it in Mint, but in ubuntu it would just switch between splash and log screens
[03:34] <jrib> Myrth: what filesystem is this?
[03:34] <Myrth> ext3
[03:35] <maheanuu> Calahan, can I use $ find *ebooks* to find the entire directory
[03:35] <pakl> hola
[03:35] <Calahan> maheanuu maybe can also try locate
[03:36] <jrib> Myrth: and you don't have access to the files?
[03:36] <Calahan> maheanuu try locate (folder_name)
[03:36] <Myrth> jrib: it is a remote server, i don't have physical, access, only remote KVM. I've tried to remote mount live ISOs but it takes too long to boot. well i guess i'll try again.. might take 15 mins
[03:37] <jrib> Myrth: how big is the filesystem?  Seems like fsck would likely be done by now
[03:37] <Myrth> jrib: 500GB
[03:38] <Myrth> multiple partitions.. it looks like it tries to fsck all of them at the same time
[03:38] <Myrth> which would be so stupid
[03:39] <jrib> Myrth: only other thing to suggest is change your options in grub so you don't (or do; change whatever is happening now) get a splash screen.  Maybe then you can cancel with escape
[03:39] <Myrth> jrib: i've tried to edit the grub options on boot and add "fastboot" but it's ignored
[03:39] <pakl> hola
[03:40] <jrib> Myrth: yes, I'm suggesting something different
[03:40] <jrib> !es | pakl
[03:40] <Myrth> jrib: oh i see
[03:45] <jrib> Myrth: if that doesn't work, maybe you can change init to /bin/bash (not sure if fsck will still run then) and get access to the files that way
[03:46] <Myrth> i'll try to give it few hours for fsck
[03:47] <Myrth> tell you the truth it doesn't bother me that much.. it's a weekend and night.. but my wife is killing me, as she has some stuff there, heh
[03:48] <tech1> i have an external usb drive "/media/SEA_DISC" which gets mounted automatically. i can open files on it and move them around that drive but if i try to copy them to my home folder(like Documents) with Nautilus i get error: "Error when getting information for file" "No such file or directory" .... but if i copy with "cp" from terminal it copies ok i just reinstalled today and im sure the first time around last week i copied
[03:48] <tech1>  with nautilus
[03:49] <sirblade> when I download 12.04 LTS how come it says 32 bit recommended,
[03:49] <JPeterson> , /bin/tar has diappeared so apt-get install doeant work. where is the tar deb?
[03:49] <sirblade> I think I should have d/l the 64-bit :(
[03:49] <Calahan> maheanuu any success? I think the command you wanted to run could be somth like this # find / -name **ebooks*
[03:50] <Calahan> with 1 * before ebooks :P
[03:50] <sirblade> @tech1 can u browse the files in ur homedir
[03:51] <Amink> Hi, I'm a Ubuntu newbie, and I'm having problems with my audio: 1) When I startup, before it goes to Ubuntu, it says 'HDA-Intel no codecs found', 2) when Ubuntu starts, no audio plays 3) there is no audio icon in the top right, 4) videos play super fast
[03:51] <Amink> can any one give me guidance?
[03:52] <JPeterson> sudo dpkg -i tar_1.26-4ubuntu1_i386.deb fails with "dpkg: warning: 'tar' not found in PATH or not executable."
[03:53] <sirblade> is tar in /usr/local/bin ?
[03:54] <osirisx11> hello my friends, i am stuck in a very low resolution after a game crashed, can anyone please suggest how i can reset to a higher res in terminal?
[03:55] <osirisx11> i tried using the standard gui but it annoyingly won't let me drag it up as my resolution is smaller than the change resolution window
[03:56] <animus> hello there
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> osirisx11, have you tried logging out and back in or rebooting?
[03:56] <tech1> is there a way to run a script from outside ~/bin? like with a certain terminal command
[03:56] <osirisx11> wilee-nilee: no i was trying to avoid tha
[03:56] <osirisx11> t
[03:57] <osirisx11> this is a high reliability machine that i happen to play games on
[03:57] <osirisx11> i'd rather not log out
[03:57] <tech1> what
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> that is a shallow exscuse I must say. ;)
[03:58] <tech1> that makes no sense
[03:58] <tech1> oh i found it bash
[03:59] <osirisx11> i can't reset the resolution on command line?
[03:59] <osirisx11> i thought we were geeks here, work with me
[03:59] <osirisx11> "just log out." pah
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> osirisx11, xrandr -s XXxXX you out in the resoultion
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> put in*
[04:00] <osirisx11> but that is not installed by default, so what is the existing dialog using to set it?
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> you don't have to install xrandr
[04:02] <osirisx11> oh thanks
[04:02] <osirisx11> ahh perfect thanks wilee-nilee!
[04:03] <tech1> if i run a script as sudo "sudo bash datadeploy.sh" will all the commands in the script get sudo privalege no matter how long it takes to run(after sudo timeout)?
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> osirisx11, cool. ;)
[04:03] <osirisx11> get this man a beer! alright you guys have a great night
[04:03] <aminkbtc> is there any way I can get Ubuntu to find HDA-Intel codecs? When I start up, it says "HDA-Intel no codecs found!"
[04:04] <trailbar> when i'm in x how do i drop to console?
[04:04] <trailbar> thought ctrl-alt-backspace or alt-f7 or something but i maybe this got disabled?
[04:05] <JPeterson> how do i schedule a disk check?
[04:05] <JPeterson> on reboot
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> trailbar, crtl==-alt-f7 brings you back to x try crtl-alt-f1
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> doh close
[04:07] <trailbar> wilee-nilee: thanks
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> trailbar, no problem.
[04:08] <trailbar> uh what's the best way of disabling copmositing now? seeing some posts saying edit xorg.conf but i don't seem to have one
[04:08] <aminkbtc> Ubuntu shouldn't be used by newbies
[04:09] <aminkbtc> I thought it would be relatively user friendly, but you need to have decent knowledge of computers or else it's extremely inconvenient.
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> aminkbtc, what should they use?
[04:09] <JPeterson> how do i show the startup text after the login screen has cleared the console history?
[04:10] <stryck3r-lander> hello guys
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> hehe I started using computers with ubuntu seemed easy enough.
[04:10] <stryck3r-lander> ehehh
[04:10] <trailbar> does 12.04 ubuntu use metacity or compiz by default?
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> compiz
[04:11] <trailbar> what's easiest way to switch it to metacity or something that doesn't have compositing
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> the unity desktop is a plugin in compiz trailbar
[04:12] <cvr> trailbar: metacity --replace
[04:12] <trailbar> cvr: permanently?
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> trailbar, try the 2d desktop
[04:15] <trailbar> wilee-nilee: how do i do that?
[04:15] <trailbar> how can i restart x?
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> trailbar, at login there is a dropdoen from a gear icon to the right of the user login.
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> dropdown*
[04:16] <trailbar> wilee-nilee: ok, because compositing does not work my whole ui is screwed and unusable at the moment, is there a way via command line or other to just restart x so i can attempt login again?
[04:17] <vaks> once ubuntu is installed how much space does it take up?
[04:17] <trailbar> ah pkill X worked
[04:18] <JPeterson> how do i show all boot messages and commands? or pause the boot process?
[04:18] <JPeterson> fsck fails but the message run past too fast to see it
[04:18] <JPeterson> i see "checking disk drive for errors" for a second but i cant make out what it says after that
[04:19] <Calahan> vaks you interested only in shell or gui aswell?
[04:19] <agentgasmask> JPeterson: I think dmesg does that.
[04:19] <JPeterson> how do i ask the login screen to not clear the boot screen log?
[04:19] <vaks> gui
[04:19] <vaks> im too noob to go shell only
[04:19] <JPeterson> cat /var/log/dmesg|grep checking returns ""
[04:20] <Calahan> vaks could bet ~5 GB needed
[04:20] <agentgasmask> JPeterson: try the dmesg command insted of catting the log.
[04:20] <vaks> ok cool
[04:20] <vaks> how much faster is linux on an SSD than a standard 7200rpm HD?
[04:21] <agentgasmask> vaks: much faster. It even rocks on my netbook
[04:21] <Calahan> well it is faster as any other OS but how mutch depends
[04:22] <jgcampbell300> i been trying all night to figure out how to print from a 8 1/2" X 4" envelope with a inventory list on it ... can anyone direct me to a site that would tell me how to do this ...
[04:23] <vaks> i guess im curious if it would be worth putting it on SSD with windows or just have it on other HD, I mainly use this comp for gaming
[04:24] <tobeus> hey all, I need help with ssh client/host config in ubuntu 12.04.  Is there a better channel I should check or can anyone help me out here?
[04:24] <agentgasmask> jgcampbell300: what do you mean print "from" an envelope? You are trying to print an inventory list on an envelope?
[04:25] <agentgasmask> vaks: i get 200MB/second compared with 35MB/sec.
[04:25] <Calahan> tobeus i gues can try asking here
[04:25] <deadmund> tobeus, This is probably the best channel to ask.
[04:26] <tobeus> ok, I'll give it a go.  I was trying to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys and was getting confused which commands were run on host and which were run on client.
[04:26] <jgcampbell300> agentgasmask, yes i am trying to print alot of lines with lables to the left of them ... but there is alot of them so i have to print length ways on the envelope and nothing seems to be working on my ubuntu machine
[04:26] <jgcampbell300> well to do that anyways
[04:26] <deadlyninja> my kernel crashed right as i started converting a raid5 to a raid6 with mdadm
[04:27] <tobeus> I wasn't sure how to get the server to recognize a client as an authorized entity and make the connection.
[04:27] <deadlyninja> now it wont mount and im not sure what to do
[04:27] <agentgasmask> jgcampbell300: I know some guys in our office print with a hacked up openoffice writer page. They just kept messing with the margins till it printed right.
[04:28] <y0om4a> hi
[04:28] <Calahan> tobeus you mean you cannot connect to your server with ssh or what is the problem?
[04:28] <y0om4a> I FORGOT MY PASSWORD FOR UBUNTU
[04:28] <y0om4a> HOW DO I FIX THAT?
[04:28] <tech1> lol
[04:28] <agentgasmask> deadlyninja: I'm saying a prayer for you now. Fellas, if you know how to help this guy, please do! :)
[04:28] <jgcampbell300> agentgasmask, do you know how to make it print sideways ... or from bottem to top
[04:29] <deadlyninja> agentgasmask, i dont like the sound of that
[04:29] <y0om4a> DO YOU HAVE  A PASSWORD FINDER PROGRAM FOR UBUNTU TO FIND MY PASSWORD?
[04:29] <tobeus> Correct, cannot connect.  Tried copying keys using ssh-copy-id, but no success.
[04:29] <agentgasmask> jgcampbell300: you are probably looking for the "landscape" setting once you do File->Print.
[04:29] <minimec> y0om4a: boot in recovery mode, drop to a root shell, then 'passwd youruser'
[04:29] <caixa> is there anyway to fix video tearing in ubuntu
[04:30] <minimec> y0om4a: Like that you can get a new password for youruser.
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> y0om4a, here is the info suggested by minimec http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword/
[04:30] <agentgasmask> deadlyninja: I'm not saying there is nothing to do. just off the bat try an: mdadm -D /dev/md0 (or whatever your md number is)
[04:30] <Calahan> y0om4a if you have not encrypted your home dir you can restet passwd with live cd or usb
[04:30] <tech1> wont he need a password to get root?
[04:30] <tobeus> Created rsa keys on host, then used ssh-copy-id but got Permission denied (Publickey).
[04:31] <deadlyninja> agentgasmask, mdadm: md device /dev/md1 does not appear to be active.
[04:31] <tobeus> The home directory is encrypted, but i used the corrective measure described by creating a folder named /etc/ssh/user-name and copied authorized_keys to that folder.
[04:31] <tobeus> on the server
[04:31] <jgcampbell300> agentgasmask, that does sound like what i need ... you know i havent tried making one from scratch ... the envelope wisard is probblay screwing me up ... thanks for the input
[04:32] <deadlyninja> anyone here an expert on raids?
[04:32] <agentgasmask> deadlyninja: try in ##linux too.
[04:32] <tobeus> It appears my client machine has an encrypted home directory too since I find .encryptfs (or something like that) when I use ls -l in the home directory.
[04:33] <tobeus> would that impact my ssh-copy-id though?
[04:33] <deadlyninja> agentgasmask, will do
[04:34] <agentgasmask> tobeus: I know ssh is picky about the permissions on the directory where the keys are stored. the should not be world readable, and I think the default mkdir make it world readable, so double check.
[04:35] <egc> hi
[04:35] <agentgasmask> egc: Hello.
[04:36] <tobeus> agentgasmask, so that would be chmod 755 ~/.ssh on the host, or chmod 755 /etc/ssh/user-name on the server?
[04:36] <bellorinrobert> Hola
[04:36] <tobeus> agentgasmask, and would that be 755?
[04:37] <agentgasmask> tobeus: sorry, shoud be 750 or even 700.
[04:38] <bellorinrobert> Alguien que hable español!
[04:38] <tobeus> agentgasmask, sorry, I meant to type 700, but my brain shot out 755 by habit.  thx, I'll give that a try.  So I'm using chmod 700 ~/.ssh on th host, just for clarification, right?
[04:38] <bellorinrobert> Por aqui
[04:39] <agentgasmask> tobeus: yes, that's what I have here. Also, do it on the /etc/ssh/user-name dir too.
[04:41] <agentgasmask> tobeus: If you are still having trouble, you can try to connect with ssh -vv and it may give you some more hints.
[04:41] <ProtekNickz> hi all, i change my login sound to a custom one and its still playing the drums at login? any clues peeps, i went to /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/ and overwrote the sound desktop-login.ogg and nadda
[04:44] <agentgasmask> ProtekNickz: IIRC it's in Settings->admin->login or session or somthing like that.
[04:44] <agentgasmask> ProtekNickz: You are talking about the drums that play when gdm comes up (the login screen)?
[04:44] <ProtekNickz> yes
[04:45] <ProtekNickz> lightdm
[04:45] <logix_> you want to replace it, not stop it?
[04:45] <ProtekNickz> correct
[04:45] <tobeus> agentgasmask, I wouldn't expect ssh to succeed if I can't get the ssh-copy-id to work though, right?  That is where I'm getting the Permission Denied (publickey)
[04:46] <tobeus> agentgasmask, I've adjusted the permissions on the files and folder on the client and host as we discussed, but I'm still getting a permission denied problem.
[04:46] <logix_> ProtekNickz: I would be interested in doing that aswell, what's the method you're trying now?
[04:47] <ProtekNickz> agentgasmask:  yes i am
[04:48] <tobeus> agentgasmask, I feel like I'm missing something on the server-side.  How does the server know it should trust my public key on the client?  What am I missing?
[04:48] <agentgasmask> tobeus: Oh, you are getting the permission denied error when running ssh-copy-id? It's not that hard to just put your pub key in the authorized-keys file. Just cat key.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized-keys
[04:48] <tobeus> agentgasmask,
[04:48] <agentgasmask> tobeus: yes?
[04:48] <agentgasmask> haha
[04:48] <tobeus> agentgasmask, sry, miskeyed.  typing
[04:48] <ProtekNickz> logix: as far as i've found so far, the sounds are in /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo ogg format
[04:49] <logix_> hmm, and what exactly happened when you overwrote it with another .ogg
[04:49] <ProtekNickz> ive replaces 2 which i thought it was and well  they were not lol
[04:49] <agentgasmask> ProtekNickz: I'm on xubuntu here, but if I remember, it should be in one of the settings in the admin section of the panel menu. I would just click around a bit.
[04:49] <ProtekNickz> same drum sound still
[04:50] <ProtekNickz> agentgasmask:  where is the panel?
[04:50] <ahoneybun> ProtekNickz, I have not read any tutorials about changing the sound, so I don't know if you can
[04:51] <tobeus> agentgasmask, ok, that's probably what it is.  So I have to copy it over manually then?  I thought that's what the ssh-copy-id was for, and wasn't sure how the host knew it was a valid addition.  I'll have to get a monitor and keyboard hooked back up to the server again.
[04:51] <logix_> Name=GNOME Login Sound   Comment=Plays a sound whenever you log in   Exec=/usr/bin/canberra-gtk-play --id="desktop-login"
[04:51] <logix_> Name=GNOME Login Sound   Comment=Plays a sound whenever you log in   Exec=/usr/bin/canberra-gtk-play --id="desktop-login"
[04:51] <logix_> that's on 12.04
[04:52] <agentgasmask> ProtekNickz: at the top left of your screen you have Applications Places System. Under system there is admin, under that there is login-screen. In there you can disable the sound. I don't know how to change it.
[04:52] <ahoneybun> ProtekNickz, http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/12/change-startup-sound-in-ubuntu.html
[04:52] <logix_> ah nope my mistake that's the command for it
[04:52] <agentgasmask> tobeus: No, you'll be good with just ssh access.
[04:53] <tech1> whats the du or other command to show folder/file sizes in a directory of only subfolder level...... so if folder "fruit" contained "apple" and "pear" -which both contained other files, i just want to see the sizes of apple and pear
[04:53] <minimec> ProtekNickz: The file is /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/desktop-login.ogg Just have to change that one...
[04:53] <agentgasmask> tobeus: You can use scp. so scp ~/.ssh/key.pub user@ipaddress:/home/remote_user/mykey.pub
[04:53] <ProtekNickz> ive done that, still drums lol
[04:53] <logix_> have you tried stereo/system-ready.ogg
[04:54] <logix_> change both of them to the .ogg you want
[04:54] <bzzzz> tech1: du --max-depth=1 -h /path/to/fruit
[04:54] <agentgasmask> ProtekNickz: Sorry, that's all I've got.
[04:54] <tech1> thanks buzz
[04:55] <ProtekNickz> no worries
[04:55] <tobeus> agentgasmask, lol, recieved Permission Denied (publickey) again
[04:55] <agentgasmask> tobeus: Do you not have even password authenticated access to the box then?
[04:55] <agentgasmask> tobeus: I guess I was assuming that you did. If not, you'll need the monitor and keyboard.
[04:56] <logix_> ProtekNickz: did you try stereo/system-ready.ogg ???
[04:56] <tobeus> It's been forever since I got that box put together, so my guess is that I do not, so I'll have to get the monitor and keyboard.
[04:57] <tobeus> agentgasmask, No biggie.  It shouldn't be too difficult.  Should I turn on password authentication if the box is exposed to the internet for wan side ssh?
[04:57] <ProtekNickz> BRB maybe reboot lol
[04:58] <agentgasmask> tobeus: It's probably good to just have key-based in that case. Just remember that the key is much more secure if you set a password for the key when you make it. I know it's tempting to just leave it blank, but if our are facine the wan, it might be a concern.
[04:59] <Draugauth> ok followed the tutorial for ifenslave and it shut down the network connections.  any ideas?
[04:59] <dez82> hello!
[05:00] <dez82> how are you all
[05:00] <Draugauth> dez82:  Ok just trying to get bonding working /lol
[05:00] <tobeus> agentgasmask, yeah, I used my more secure password for that.  thx for the tip.
[05:01] <dez82> I just installed 12.04 LTS, and am determined not to go back to winblows
[05:01] <dez82> so i thought I should join here for support
[05:01] <agentgasmask> tobeus: I should be arround for a little bit longer if you need help once you get the monitor and keyboard setup.
[05:01] <agentgasmask> dez82: Welcome! :)
[05:01] <dez82> Thanx agentgasmask
[05:02] <dez82> expect a few "silly" questions from me over the next few weeks
[05:02] <dez82> i trained in fedora and centos, so my ubuntu is a little scratchy
[05:03] <Keegan_> hey when I type once in terminal and then I can't type the command password wonder why??
[05:03] <agentgasmask> Keegan_: try control-q. just a guess.
[05:04] <sirriffsalot> Hey! I'm having these streams of xruns in ubuntu studio 12.04, and I think I need a realtime kernel.. anyone able to confirm this?
[05:04] <sirriffsalot> All I have now is the standard lowlatency kernel that comes with ubuntu studio
[05:04] <tobeus> agentgasmask, ok, thx.  Still wrestling the other equipment.  Should be done soon.
[05:05] <tech1> is there a command i can put in a script to make the terminal running the script go bigger/fullscreen?
[05:05] <tobeus> agentgasmask, I think I'm going to turn on password auth long enough to send the key.  Otherwise I'll have to find an old flash drive.
[05:05] <agentgasmask> tobeus: haha, yeah that should be good.
[05:06] <tobeus> agentgasmask, wow, this thing was back in the 10.04 days.  Going to work on updating that to 12.04 I think later.  Whilst I have keyb/monitor still hooked up.
[05:06] <dez82> hey, out of interest, I'm having to use the nouveou drivers for my nvidia8500GT as the proprietory dual screen support doesnt work. Has anybody found a way to get dual screen working with better performance? (3d etc)
[05:07] <agentgasmask> tobeus: let me know how that goes. :)
[05:08] <ProtekNickz> For any one that wants to know which file it  is , for the login screen sound it's Location: /uar/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/system-ready.ogg
[05:08] <ProtekNickz> Got it :D
[05:08] <ProtekNickz> uar = "usr" lol soz
[05:10] <ProtekNickz> thanks for the help peeps :D
[05:10] <agentgasmask> ProtekNickz: Glad it worked out. Come back anytime.
[05:11] <ProtekNickz> i will and do :D
[05:12] <tobeus> agentgasmask, what was the cat command to append the new public key to the authorized keyfile again?
[05:12] <iToast> Hi.
[05:12] <iToast> I got a ubuntu server
[05:12] <Keegan_> hi
[05:12] <iToast> and I want to back it up in such a way
[05:13] <iToast> I can just take the backup from a 10.4 server and bring it to a 12.4 server
[05:13] <iToast> and still use things like "apt-get upgrade" and it'l reconize all the installed apps from the backups
[05:13] <agentgasmask> tobeus: just cat the public key file to the authorized_keys file. So: cat key.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[05:14] <iToast> I know I need to backup /home /etc /var
[05:14] <iToast> Any other parts of my FS?
[05:14] <agentgasmask> iToast: Is there a question in there somewhere? and don't be afrade of a big block of text. It's better then having a bunch of broken up posts.
[05:14] <goddard> anyone know the KDE overall buttons ?
[05:14] <iToast> agentgasmask:  I'm after making a backup of my ubuntu server
[05:15] <agentgasmask> iToast: do you want to have all the same software installed?
[05:15] <iToast> that I can take to a new ubuntu install of a updated version
[05:15] <iToast> agentgasmask:  yes
[05:15] <iToast> phrakt: !
[05:15] <agentgasmask> Ok. you are looking for dpkg --get-selection on the old server.
[05:15] <tobeus> agentgasmask, awesome, that did it!
[05:16] <iToast> >_<
[05:16] <iToast> Ok, what directorys should I backup?
[05:16] <agentgasmask> tobeus: Sweet! :) I guess once you had the password setup, you could just have used ssh-copy-id. DOGH!
[05:16] <tobeus> agentgasmask, so for future reference, is there really a purpose to ssh-copy-id when using an encrypted home directory?  I tried using that after enabling password login.
[05:16] <ProtekNickz> ok another ponder :D, has anyone got a nice tutorial on how to back up your machine, like what to back up and what not to ect..? if so i would apriciate it
[05:17] <agentgasmask> tobeus: oh, and it still failed?
[05:17] <iToast> So.
[05:17] <tobeus> agentgasmask, I tried and it said it worked, but after I disabled passwords, it gave me the Permission Denied (publickey) problem when I ssh'd in.
[05:17] <iToast> Anyone got a idea on what  I should do...?
[05:17] <iToast> What directories should I backup...?
[05:17] <iToast> I know /var /etc /home
[05:18] <agentgasmask> tobeus: I don't have any experiance with encrypted home dirs. But I would think that once it was mounted, it would act just like a normal filesystem to the programs accessing it.
[05:18] <agentgasmask> iToast: once sec...
[05:18] <tobeus> agentgasmask, it was probably my mistake somewhere.
[05:18] <Platypus-Man> iToast: you could use CloneZilla and back it all up
[05:18] <iToast> Platypus-Man: No downtime.
[05:18] <agentgasmask> tobeus: Oh well. Water under the bridge and all.
[05:18] <iToast> Everything needs to happen while the machine keeps going.
[05:19] <tobeus> agentgasmask, I'm guessing that ssh-copy-id tried to copy the .pub keyfile to the default location on the host of ~/.ssh rather than the new location /etc/ssh/user-name which is where it has to be for the encrypted filesystem.  Either way, thx for the help!
[05:19] <iToast> Anyone got any idea >_<
[05:19] <iToast> I know I can do a more complex backup, so dump all databases copy all files
[05:19] <iToast> and copy my home directory and start fresh
[05:19] <agentgasmask> tobeus: no problem. Glad all my previouse pain could be usefull to someone else.
[05:19] <JPeterson> "sudo apt-get <anything>" crash without message. how to trace the problem?
[05:20] <iToast> JPeterson: Error logs!
[05:20] <tobeus> agentgasmask, yep, looks like it.  I have a brand new file called authorized_keys in the ~/.ssh folder for my encrypted file with the pub key appended.  That's what it did.
[05:20] <JPeterson> iToast: where?
[05:20] <iToast> JPeterson: /var/log I believe.
[05:20] <tobeus> agentgasmask, lol, thx again.  ttyl.
[05:20] <sirblade> how come download page says 32-bit recommended for v12, what if I have 64 bit machine?
[05:20] <agentgasmask> iToast: just relax and drink soem tea for a sec. I'm getting a google page for you now.
[05:20] <iToast> sirblade:  get 64bit.
[05:20] <iToast> agentgasmask: tea tastes horrid...
[05:21] <iToast> well, not one brand of orange tea but I think they closed :(
[05:22] <iToast> Also, anyone got any Idea for a webcam.
[05:22] <iToast> During the night in my room there is strange noises, behavour
[05:22] <ProtekNickz> idea as in what?
[05:22] <iToast> People don't go in my room during the night but things are moved...
[05:22] <agentgasmask> iToast: Ok. so install the software (with method forth comming) and then copy the dirs that you mentioned.
[05:22] <iToast> agentgasmask: thats it"
[05:22] <iToast> ?
[05:23] <iToast> ProtekNickz: One of the strange things that happened was a cable started moving in my room on its own...
[05:23] <agentgasmask> iToast: first on old server run: dpkg --get-selections > selections.txt
[05:23] <iToast> violently. I recorded, amazingly that file went corrupt minutes later...
[05:23] <agentgasmask> iToast: Then, copy that file to the new server and run: dpgk --set-selections < selections.txt
[05:24] <iToast> agentgasmask: and just copy the other directorys?
[05:24] <ProtekNickz> dont worry about it, prolly someone try to steal your copper wire to weight it in lol
[05:24] <JPeterson> iToast: "sudo apt-get" doesnt write anything in /var/log shows `ls -ltr /var/log`
[05:24] <agentgasmask> iToast: Then run sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[05:24] <ProtekNickz> any one got a good tutorial on how and what to back up on linux? and the reasons ect..
[05:25] <iToast> agentgasmask: why can't I just copy my installs over :S
[05:25] <iToast> lol
[05:25] <agentgasmask> iToast: Then copy the dirs. I wouldn't erase /etc on the new server. Just move it in case something breaks.
[05:25] <iToast> ok
[05:25] <Maccer> Does anyone happen to know what the linker flag for opengl happens to be in GCC?
[05:25] <agentgasmask> iToast: you could give it a try, but this isn't that hard.
[05:26] <iToast> so only /var /home and /etc...?
[05:26] <Maccer> (-lGL doesn't work)
[05:26] <agentgasmask> iToast: I just know what worked for me.
[05:26] <agentgasmask> iToast: unless you have data elseware.
[05:27] <agentgasmask> iToast: good luck. I'm off to bed
[05:27] <iToast> agentgasmask:
[05:27] <iToast> agentgasmask I got the command and the file :D
[05:27] <agentgasmask> what.
[05:27] <iToast> So I just install it, then merge my backup...?
[05:27] <Draugauth> is there a utorrent like program for ubuntu?
[05:27] <iToast> Draugauth: I forgot the name..
[05:27] <ProtekNickz> Draugauth:  ktorrent
[05:27] <iToast> its the same one that freenas uses!
[05:28] <Draugauth> ProtekNickz:  Thank you
[05:28] <ProtekNickz> np
[05:28] <agentgasmask> iToast: yes. I would copy one config over at a time and make sure if it breaks then you know what broke it and can copy the orig back.
[05:28] <agentgasmask> Draugauth: transmission or rtorrent
[05:28] <iToast> agentgasmask:  Thanks :)
[05:28] <agentgasmask> iToast: have fun. :)
[05:29] <iToast> agentgasmask: 250gb HDD
[05:29] <iToast> for my backup
[05:29] <agentgasmask> By all. had fun. Talk later.
[05:29] <iToast> weekly mirrors
[05:29] <iToast> nightly of my /home
[05:29] <ProtekNickz> bye agentgasmask:
[05:34] <km0t> hola
[05:36] <stinky> Hi, I am sort of a noobie, I have only ran a few servers remotely. Is there some IRC channel i can try chatting about setting up game servers?
[05:36] <stinky> well, general ubuntu chat I guess
[05:37] <Stanley00> stinky: if it run ubuntu, I think you can ask here :D
[05:38] <stinky> ok :) i thought this was strictly tech, Thanks :)
[05:39] <dsnyders> Hi all!  What file(s) are routes stored in.  I need to change my default route.
[05:40] <douglas> good night
[05:40] <douglas> guys
[05:40] <Stanley00> dsnyders: you can use route command, or use Network manager
[05:41] <dsnyders> Stanley00, I thought the route command only affected the running configuration.  If I reboot, it's back to the original, no?
[05:42] <Stanley00> dsnyders: yep, how about using Network Manager? It has GUI, and remembers what you set.
[05:43] <dsnyders> Stanley00, System>admin>NetworkTools?
[05:44] <Stanley00> dsnyders: right click on your network icon, and you will see it
[05:47] <crazydiamond> Hi. I have a router and Laptop, conncted to it. In laptop I can do ping command to every host, but cannot download any data. What can be a problem?
[05:48] <Stanley00> crazydiamond: try ping <IP_ADDRESS> and ping google.com
[05:48] <stinky> can you write toteh download folder crazydiamond ? do you own it?
[05:48] <dsnyders> Stanley00, It's not prompting for admin rights.
[05:49] <crazydiamond> Staneley: both ok
[05:49] <Stanley00> dsnyders: oh, my bad, the menu call "Edit connection..." ;)
[05:50] <Stanley00> crazydiamond: hmm, then try what stinky said
[05:51] <crazydiamond> write to folder? yes, I can. when I said "cannot download anything, I wanted to say that I cannot open any web page. wget fails also"
[05:51] <ehs> what the version of ubuntu are you using
[05:51] <ehs> <crazydiamond
[05:51] <crazydiamond> ehs: 12.04
[05:51] <ehs> are you the superuser?
[05:52] <stinky> my wife thingks so
[05:52] <ESphynx> lol
[05:52] <crazydiamond> ehs: no. what for?
[05:53] <ehs> if you are downloading the file to any super user folder it wont work
[05:53] <Josh483> Hey can someone help me i just installed xubuntu on my laptop and im having major wifi problems?
[05:53] <crazydiamond> ehs: simply, I cannot use http connection to open a web page, and it's some network configuration problem
[05:54] <ehs> so you are not able to open any website too is it?
[05:54] <Josh483> Hey can someone help me i just installed xubuntu on my laptop and im having major wifi problems?
[05:54] <crazydiamond> ehs: yes. but ping works okay
[05:56] <ehs> dhcp or static?
[05:56] <crazydiamond> dhcp, automatic IP detection
[05:57] <amol> how to install g++ in ubuntu10.10
[05:57] <amol> i tried "sudo apt-get install g++"
[05:57] <amol> ?????????????
[05:59] <fdsa> anyone know of an active security channel?
[06:00] <Stanley00> fdsa: try /msg alis :D
[06:00] <Stanley00> !alis | fdsa
[06:01] <crazydiamond> what's the problem when Ubuntu Laptop can resolve IP, but cannot open any web page?
[06:01] <jaxdahl> DNS server issue
[06:02] <goddard> i installed KDE but I want to uninstall it now how can I remove it and all related programs?
[06:02] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: my Laptop is connected via router. can that be a problem?
[06:02] <JPeterson> how do i regenerate /var/lib/dpkg/status?
[06:03] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, did you assign your laptop an IP address (static) or did you use DHCP
[06:04] <Josh483> Can someone help me please my wifi is really messed up and idk what to do
[06:04] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: it uses DHCP
[06:04] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, ethernet or wireless
[06:04] <bzzzz> JPeterson: what's wrong with it?
[06:04] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: ethernet
[06:04] <JPeterson> bzzzz: it's gone
[06:04] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, ifconfig eth0 and see if it has a DNS server listed
[06:04] <Josh483> jax can you help me
[06:05] <sambagirl> josh483 what means really messed up?
[06:05] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, actually dns might not be listed under there
[06:05] <Josh483> like my wifi icon keeps crashing or dissapearing and i keep rebooting it
[06:05] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: cannot find word "DNS"
[06:05] <bz> JPeterson: what's the output of "ls /var/lib/dpkg"?
[06:05] <Josh483> and now its just off and wont turn on
[06:05] <Josh483> it says network manager isnt running
[06:05] <sambagirl> what version of ubuntu?
[06:06] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: cannot find word "DNS" in output of "ifconfig eth0"
[06:06] <sambagirl> did you do any recent updates?
[06:06] <Josh483> well its xubuntu
[06:06] <bz> JPeterson: what's the output of "ls /var/backups/dpkg*"?
[06:06] <bz> JPeterson: pastebin those two
[06:06] <sambagirl> ahh you need to go to #xubuntu
[06:06] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, cat /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf
[06:06] <Josh483> ohh
[06:06] <sambagirl> they wont help you in here
[06:06] <sambagirl> not at all
[06:06] <Josh483> why
[06:06] <goddard> how can i uninstalled all KDE applications?
[06:06] <sambagirl> because it isnt ubuntu
[06:07] <sambagirl> it is xubuntu
[06:07] <JPeterson> bz: thx ill try to use a backup
[06:07] <Josh483> ok
[06:07] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: server=<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:07] <sambagirl> different distro
[06:07] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: 1 line in file
[06:07] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, do you have a windows computer around
[06:07] <hack2s> any apps
[06:07] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: yes
[06:07] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, type ipconfig /all on windows computer in cmd prompt
[06:07] <jaxdahl> and see what DNS it has configured
[06:08] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: the same, <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:08] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, and you are not able to resolve google.com on the laptop?
[06:09] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Where are the routes stored?
[06:09] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: yes. resolves into <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:09] <iToast> The ghost in the machine.
[06:09] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, what was your problem again?
[06:09] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: cannot open any web page
[06:10] <NastyNaz> are there any ascii web-browsers out there? I want to surf the web from my ubuntu server
[06:10] <tech1> im trying to show folder sizes of 1 level in order of size with "du --max-depth=1 -h" and to display by size "du --max-depth=1 -h | sort -n" but it is stilll showing random order?
[06:10] <iToast> NastyNaz:  yes
[06:10] <iToast> google it NastyNaz  :p
[06:10] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, you are using firefox and pages fail to loads?
[06:10] <NastyNaz> iToast: thanks for being real helpful
[06:10] <iToast> NastyNaz: Lynx
[06:11] <iToast> NastyNaz:  took me 2 secs to google it.
[06:11] <iToast> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser)
[06:11] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: I used: 1 - firefox, 2 - wget http://google.com/ -- both fails
[06:11] <jaxdahl> what error message does firefox give you?
[06:11] <chu> !google | iToast
[06:12] <iToast> chu: It's not google fu.
[06:12] <iToast> It was as simple thing to do first
[06:12] <iToast> "text only web browser"
[06:12] <bazhang> iToast, never recommend google here
[06:12] <iToast> bazhang: I'ts my oppinion and others
[06:12] <NastyNaz> thanks, I'll check it out
[06:12] <iToast> that you help yourself first
[06:12] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: server has disconnected the connection or sth like this
[06:13] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, i wonder if it's a ipv6 issue?
[06:14] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: how do I check that?
[06:14] <jaxdahl> crazydiamond, in firefox go to about:config, and set network.dns.disableIPv6  to True
[06:14] <jaxdahl> then see if things work
[06:14] <jaxdahl> if so, look for an option to disable ipv6 system-wide, not sure where that is
[06:16] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: I disabled IPv6 in Firefox. the same error
[06:17] <jaxdahl> sorry, i'm not sure what the issue is then.
[06:17] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: but, ubuntu is connected via router. can that affect?
[06:17] <Maccer> Is there a way to force re-install pulse audio with its default settings or restore to the default settings?  My mic input worked, and then it stopped all of a sudden
[06:17] <jaxdahl> no idea.
[06:17] <jaxdahl> Maccer, do you own any small pets
[06:18] <crazydiamond> jaxdahl: and lead to that issues. if shortly, what special preferences must I have for router?
[06:18] <Maccer> jaxdahl: nuh uh
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> after i run a python script, python scriptname.py, it gives me commands to ./start running, what do i do after?
[06:21] <JPeterson> this looks interesting: debconf: warning: possible database corruption. Will attempt to repair by adding back missing question samÿþ HBå"_ù©^*}þ¨A_ûã
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[06:23] <jiltdil> Is there any way to rate my laptop under ubuntu like it is in Window?
[06:23] <caixa> does ubuntu block internet ports by default or something?
[06:26] <crimsonmane> caixa: depends on what you're trying to accomplish. what's up?
[06:34] <sikanderkhan> hi everyone!
[06:35] <stinky> Welcome! wWelcome to ubuntu . I am your host.
[06:35] <sikanderkhan> stinky: Hi there!
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> !ftp
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> !info gftp
[06:41] <oorang3> hey folks, i've setup a chroot according to the ubuntu wiki. it works just fine with "schroot -c lucid_i386 -u myuser". however it fails if i "su myuser" with the error : "E: lucid: Chroot not found"
[06:41] <oorang3> any ideas?
[06:43] <jiltdil> Is there any way to rate my laptop under ubuntu like it is in Window?
[06:44] <oorang3> nvm, got it
[06:47] <rhollan> is anyone here? I need HELP!
[06:47] <denys> hello
[06:47] <denys> I am new to Ubuntu
[06:48] <rhollan> my mentally ill son stole my phone and ran into the street. I need someone to cal l 911
[06:48] <denys> got some questions
[06:48] <rhollan> this is not a joke
[06:48] <denys> rhollan go to your neighbours
[06:48] <denys> call from there
[06:49] <denys> can I get help about adobe flash installation?
[06:49] <rhollan> it is late. I am afraid of disturbing them.
[06:49] <theadmin> Okay, so I'm doing the minimal install, and after configuring the HTTP proxy it gets stuck on a purple screen.   Just... what the possible fu-
[06:49] <theadmin> denys: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer # This should be enough
[06:50] <oorang3> in order to get my guest users into chroot they have to : schroot -c my_schroot -u my_user. is there a better way to have this run at login than putting it in ~/.bashrc ?
[06:50] <denys> rhollan, it's your son. Just go and make a call. It's a 911 situation
[06:50] <oorang3> i was hopping i could put it as their login shell, but it doesn't seem to like that
[06:51] <denys> theadmin, hi! so. I downloaded flash-plugin-<IP_ADDRESS>-release.x86_64.rpm what next? I heared something about packet managers and this looks like a Red Hat one. But what next?
[06:51] <goddard> what is the K display manager?
[06:52] <theadmin> denys: Uh, you DON'T use that. Search for Flash in the Ubuntu Software Center OR run the following command in your terminal: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[06:53] <theadmin> goddard: KDM.
[06:53] <theadmin> goddard: If you mean what it's for, then it's your login screen
[06:53] <goddard> theadmin: for KDE?
[06:53] <theadmin> goddard: Yes
[06:53] <goddard> ok
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> denys; is flash not working after installing it?
[06:54] <theadmin> goddard: Well, you can honestly use it with any desktop, but it is a part of KDE.
[06:55] <goddard> i see
[06:55] <denys> theadmin , was testing after making apt install in terminal. It works nice. Thankyou
[06:56] <theadmin> denys: Great. Just so you know, always search for things in the Software Center instead of downloading from websites.
[06:57] <caixa> go
 ok.
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: any idea howto solve a corrupt square-like mouse pointer at first boot(after reboot its fixxed)
[06:58] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Nope.
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: tnx anyway, im trying to solve this bug for years now : (
[06:59] <goddard> how can I remove shortcuts in my dock menu that are not linked properly any more?
[06:59] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: I have a similar issue, and moving the mouse randomly around the right side of the screen seems to help, but that's not a decent explanation is it
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: is it an a machine with ati card?
[07:00] <pizzad> lotuspsychje: graphics card/driver maybe?
[07:00] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Yeah, not using fglrx though.
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> pizzad: the strange thing is, it only happens 1 time a day..after reboot the problem is gone
[07:01] <pizzad> lotuspsychie does it happen on other pc's as well or just that one
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> pizzad: yes i got it on 2 systems with ati card
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> pizzad:ati drivers installed correctly cause compiz effects working fine
[07:02] <dudewhat> Next you need to modify the permissions of /home/ftpusers directory and of any other subdirectories. The owner must be ftpuser while Group must be ftpgroup
[07:02] <dudewhat> how do I do this?
[07:02] <Maccer> Does anyone happen to know why the hell my sound broke when I reinstalled the alsa and pulseaudio package?  They're there.  Pulse and alsa are running.  Alsamixer detects everything, modules seem to be loaded, yet, no sound. :(
[07:02] <dudewhat> pl0x
[07:03] <pizzad> lotuspsychje that is strange indeed especially since it just happens once a day... I use ati aswell and i don't get this issue although I had it on a pc with a much older ati card
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> pizzad: was u able to fix this square on it?
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> pizzad: i must say both systems are kinda older ati cards aswell
[07:04] <dudewhat> anyone?
[07:05] <greenit> hi, my ubuntu has a problem: every first boot it runs in low graphics mode, i can't click anything, only the window appears, but after reset it works normally... can any1 help me get rid of this problem? graphicscard: nvidia geforce GTX 570, driver: nvidia
[07:05] <pizzad> lotuspsychje: The square issue disappeared for me when I installed Ubuntu 10 on it (previously 9.04) and has not returned as of 12.04
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> pizzad:clean install or upgrade?
[07:06] <ashi> hi
[07:06] <ashi> anybody here
[07:06] <pizzad> lotuspsychje: I do a clean install every time a new version comes out. What version are you on now?
[07:06] <dudewhat> 1337
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> pizzad:i think both systems got upgrade...maybe its time for clean :p
[07:06] <ashi> what u mean
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> pizzad:tnx for your feedback mate, this might solve the issua
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> *issue
[07:07] <pizzad> lotuspsychje: well for now try it on one machine and see if it helps, Good Luck! :D
[07:07] <dudewhat> Next you need to modify the permissions of /home/ftpusers directory and of any other subdirectories. The owner must be ftpuser while Group must be ftpgroup
[07:07] <dudewhat> ????
[07:07] <ashi> chown ftp folder path
[07:08] <ashi> then chmod 730 folder path
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> pizzad:tnx
[07:08] <dudewhat> ty
[07:08] <ashi> wc
[07:09] <ashi> then change selinux permission for ftp
[07:09] <dudewhat> so root@thegibson:/home/nick# chown ftpuser:ftgroup /home/ftpusers
[07:09] <ashi> getsebool - a ftp
[07:09] <ashi> yes
[07:10] <ashi> chmod 730 /home/ftpusers
[07:10] <dudewhat> chown: invalid group: `ftpuser:ftgroup'
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> whats the command to see uptime of an ftp with gftp?
[07:10] <dudewhat> oops
[07:11] <ashi> to view /home/users permissions # ls -lZd /home/ftpuser
[07:11] <dudewhat> got it
[07:11] <ashi> u got it?
[07:11] <dudewhat> yes
[07:11] <dudewhat> thanks :D
[07:11] <ashi> u from
[07:11] <ashi> im from india
[07:12] <ashi> any other question
[07:12] <ashi> dudewhat
[07:12] <ashi> hy
[07:12] <ashi> r u working dudewhat
[07:12] <dudewhat> sorta
[07:13] <ashi> what
[07:13] <dudewhat> "working"
[07:13] <ashi> good
[07:13] <ashi> any other
[07:13] <ashi> questions
[07:13] <ashi> dude
[07:13] <dudewhat> not at the moment
[07:14] <ashi> which version of ubuntu u use
[07:14] <ashi> hey dude u from
[07:14] <dudewhat> Linux thegibson 3.2.0-23-generic-pae #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 22:19:09 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[07:16] <dudewhat> 12.04
[07:16] <ashi> is it ubuntu
[07:16] <goddard> i have a bunch of short cuts that are from wine that are valid since I uninstalled them .... How can I remove those ?
[07:17] <ashi> apt-remove wine
[07:17] <goddard> ive already remove wine
[07:17] <ashi> then
[07:18] <ashi> *
[07:18] <goddard> no other way to clean up stuff
[07:19] <ashi> synaptic manger
[07:19] <goddard> synaptic wont remove dead short cuts i dont think will it?
[07:20] <ashi> where is the short cuts
[07:20] <ashi> is in desktop
[07:20] <ashi> or menu
[07:20] <goddard> in the menu
[07:20] <ashi> ahhaha
[07:21] <ashi> right click on menu ok
[07:21] <ashi> u can see the edit menu
[07:21] <ashi> did u get that ?
[07:22] <goddard> ? your talking about the unity dock?
[07:22] <goddard> thats the menu Im talking about
[07:22] <JPeterson> help please http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142526/
[07:22] <ashi> no
[07:23] <ashi> no dock
[07:23] <ashi> u want wine from menu
[07:23] <ashi> ok
[07:25] <ashi> any body want help
[07:25] <ashi> about ubuntu
[07:25] <cfhowlett> ashi: ask with details
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:26] <ashi> u want help
[07:26] <goddard> ashi: huh?
[07:26] <ashi> tell me
[07:26] <goddard> ashi: i do not want wine im trying to remove dead short cuts
[07:27] <ashi> is the shortcuts in menu isnt it goddard
[07:28] <ashi> if u take edit menu u can delete the short cuts also
[07:28] <ashi> just check it now
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> goddard: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21681/how-do-i-correctly-remove-items-from-wine-programs-menu
[07:31] <JPeterson> help please http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142526/
[07:32] <cfhowlett> !patience|JPeterson:
[07:35] <goddard> lotuspsychje: i dont have wine installed any more
[07:36] <tech1> poop
[07:39] <erdeniz> \msg nickserv info len
[07:45] <Guest86898> hey whats up guyz
[07:47] <hederchan> come in?
[07:47] <hederchan> hello
[07:47] <cfhowlett> hederchan: we c u
[07:48] <hederchan> o .thank u
[07:49] <hederchan> 都在讲英文吗
[07:49] <cfhowlett> !jp|hederchan:
[07:50] <hederchan> i am not jap
[07:50] <bitbarron> Is anybody here knowledgeable about gpg?
[07:50] <bitbarron> Or GnuPG?
[07:51] <logix_> in what context?
[07:51] <cfhowlett> !cn|hederchan
[07:51] <bitbarron> logix_, just some basic config questions
[07:51] <hederchan>  thank u
[07:51] <hederchan> you
[07:52] <cfhowlett> hederchan: no worries
[07:52] <logix_> I want to know more about it aswell
[07:52] <bitbarron> logix_, do you know what the purpose of the comment is when you create a new key pair?
[07:53] <logix_> nope, don't know much about gpg
[07:53] <bitbarron> logix_, OK, thanx
[07:53] <logix_> it's the same as pgp only gnu isn't it?
[07:53] <bitbarron> logix_, yes
[07:57] <KatsumeBlisk> How would one uninstall an application they compiled from source? just delete its directory since it's not connected to the package manager?
[07:58] <cfhowlett> KatsumeBlisk: iirc it's sudo dpkg -r foo
[07:59] <KatsumeBlisk> cfhowlett: Thanks. I actually figured out a separate problem that made that question irrelevant. I installed an app from source since it's not in the repos, but it wasn't showing in the dash because it was placed in a weird spot. I found it.
[07:59] <KatsumeBlisk> cfhowlett: I was going to uninstall it to see if I could fix it.
[08:00] <cfhowlett> KatsumeBlisk: best of luck
[08:00] <KatsumeBlisk> cfhowlett: Are most application shortcuts (like the ones the Dash uses) in /usr/bin?
[08:01] <cfhowlett> KatsumeBlisk: that is my understanding
[08:02] <KatsumeBlisk> cfhowlett: Thank you
[08:02] <cfhowlett> KatsumeBlisk: be safe.  have fun.
[08:03] <TotallyWorthIt> can someone help me with these error ??
[08:03] <TotallyWorthIt> http://hpaste.org/73030
[08:09] <defigo> TotallyWorthIt, looks like a broken script
[08:11] <TotallyWorthIt> defigo: i don't have any script in my code...
[08:12] <defigo> TotallyWorthIt, oh, it's your program?
[08:13] <TotallyWorthIt> defigo: yes it is...
[08:14] <defigo> TotallyWorthIt, ah, sorry I don't even recognize the language.. have you tried some programming channels?
[08:15] <Guest78823> hello ,anyone knows where I can download an Xubuntu user handbook?
[08:15] <Guest78823> I can't find it on the offical site
[08:16] <TotallyWorthIt> yes ... i didn't want it to paste these here... i post it the wrong windows
[08:16] <cfhowlett> Guest78823: so far as I know, no such thing.  the ubuntu books/manuals should suffice for almost all needs.  Is there something xubuntu specific I can provide assistance on?
[08:16] <cfhowlett> !who
[08:16] <TotallyWorthIt> sorry fst time
[08:16] <JPeterson> how do i reinstall all packages from the live cd?
[08:16] <defigo> TotallyWorthIt, ok, it happens
[08:17] <Guest78823> I want to know how to change the hot keys
[08:17] <cfhowlett> JPeterson: sudo dpkg -i foo.* (-f to force?)
[08:17] <cfhowlett> Guest78823: media hotkeys?
[08:17] <JPeterson> cfhowlett: what's foo.*?
[08:18] <JPeterson> i mean all packages on sda of course
[08:18] <cfhowlett> JPeterson: foo = insert random file name here
[08:18] <JPeterson> , /dev/sda1
[08:18] <cfhowlett> JPeterson: wouldn't it be easier overall to just reinstall?
[08:18] <JPeterson> ya, that's why i asked
[08:19] <cfhowlett> JPeterson: ah.  I misread your question.  reboot from your live cdrom/usb, install your /root and DO NOT format your /home.  Your data *should* be safe, but, of course, back it up first if it's important.
[08:20] <JPeterson> i have no idea what you mean. give the commands. no explanations
,can you answer my questions?
[08:21] <Guest78823> I have send you a message
[08:21] <cfhowlett> Guest78823: did you mean re-assign the media hotkeys?
[08:21] <Guest78823> not just media hotkeys ,all the hotkeys
[08:22] <cfhowlett> JPeterson: reinstall = install.  boot your ubuntu cdrom/usb.  install your root system.  Choose the existing /home as your /home but do NOT format.
[08:22] <pride> hi
[08:22] <cfhowlett> Guest78823: settings/keyboard has some of the keys you're referencing...
[08:22] <JPeterson> cfhowlett: how do i run apt-get on sda1 from the live cd
[08:23] <pride> how to change 11.10
[08:23] <cfhowlett> JPeterson: some reason you can NOT apt-get update from your system without live boot?
[08:23] <cfhowlett> pride: "change"??  you mean upgrade to 12.04?
[08:23] <JPeterson> cfhowlett: yes
[08:24] <JPeterson> youre arguing with me
[08:24] <JPeterson> i'm asking ho i specify the target file systme for apt-get
[08:24] <cfhowlett> JPeterson: just asking for clarificatoin ...
[08:24] <pride> cfhow no get my computer and al
[08:25] <pride> like basic interface things as on 11.04
[08:25] <cfhowlett> JPeterson: best thing I can do is bail out of this question.  I THINK I understand what you're attempting, but I've never done so not comfortable advising...
[08:26] <Guest78823> still can't find it.Xubuntu looks good but is less convenient than Ubuntu
[08:26] <cfhowlett> pride: so you want your present 11.10 to look/feel more like 11.04, is that it?
[08:26] <glebihan> JPeterson, noone's arguing with you, you asked how to reinstall all packages from the CD, and the only way to do that is to resinstall your whole system, just as cfhowlett told you
[08:26] <pride> yess
[08:27] <pride> may be get more things on desktop
[08:27] <JPeterson> glebihan: can you answer clearly? can i specify the target file system for apt-get or aptitude or not?
[08:27] <cfhowlett> pride: doable.  you'll have to specify what exactly you want changed and work through all the steps...
[08:27] <glebihan> JPeterson, no
[08:28] <_RASPUTTIN> how can i write in hindi in ubuntu ?
[08:28] <cfhowlett> _RASPUTTIN: pretty sure there's language support you can install for that...
[08:28] <pride> use some unicode like software
[08:28] <_RASPUTTIN> i see
[08:29] <cfhowlett> _RASPUTTIN: wait one - looking
[08:30] <pride> how to make ubuntu 11.10 look more handy
[08:30] <cfhowlett> _RASPUTTIN: software center shows 2 entries for "hindi" - installing the overall language support is a system setting that can be easily changed.  Not sure about specific language characters though
[08:30] <pride> handy means get more thiings on desktop
[08:31] <cfhowlett> pride: right click on the desktop and I'm pretty sure a menu will come up for adding shortcuts and the like...
[08:32] <_RASPUTTIN> cfhowlett: i i will see
[08:32] <cfhowlett> _RASPUTTIN: best of luck
[08:34] <Guest12757> nick claudiu
[08:35] <Guest12757> --nickname-- claudiu
[08:35] <Guest12757> bonjour
[08:35] <Guest12757> channel #ubuntu-fr
[08:35] <cfhowlett> Guest12757: /join #ubuntu-fr
[08:36] <Animus123> need help!!!!!!!!!!1
[08:36] <cfhowlett> Animus123: state the issue - without unnecessary !!!!!!
[08:36] <Animus123> how to install oracle 11g in ubuntu 12.04?
[08:38] <goddard> anyone know how to remove virutal box kernel drivers once installed?
[08:39] <Animus123> cfhowlett:do you know,how to install oracle 11g in ubuntu 12.04?
[08:40] <cc11rocks> Hello everyone. I am on my new System76 laptop. I am trying to set up a wifi ad-hoc connection - from this computer to one of my laptops. When I try to set it up on here, I get a "network disconnected" notification or other nonsense. Is this a known bug in Ubuntu 12.04?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> Animus123: personally no experience, however  echizen.blog.com/2012/05/03/ubuntu-12-04-安装-oracle
[08:41] <Animus123> cfhowlett:ok thanks!
[08:41] <cfhowlett> Animus123: not sure that link pasted correctly.  try ubuntu 12.04 + oracle 11g as your search terms
[08:42] <Animus123> cfhowlett:page not found.
[08:42] <cfhowlett> Animus123: not sure that link pasted correctly.  try ubuntu 12.04 + oracle 11g as your search terms
[08:42] <Animus123> cfhowlett:ok
[08:42] <cfhowlett> Animus123: http://edin.no-ip.com/blog/hswong3i/oracle-database-11g-release-2-ubuntu-12-04-howto
[08:43] <cfhowlett> Animus123: sorry it's partially in chinese...
[08:44] <Animus123> cfhowlett:nope,it's in english!
[08:44] <cc11rocks> Anyone have any idea about the ad-hoc issue?
[08:44] <cfhowlett> Animus123: darn great firewall of china is messing with me ...
[08:44] <luftikuss> What IRC network is hosting a radio amateur channel?
[08:45] <Animus123> cfhowlett:ok!
[08:46] <Animus123> cfhowlett:the article procedure is suitable for ubuntu server!
[08:47] <cfhowlett> Animus123: should still work for desktop - just more use of the CLI
[08:47] <Animus123> cfhowlett:ok!
[08:51] <JPeterson> glebihan: why doesnt chroot /mnt apt-get work?
[08:53] <glebihan> JPeterson, well it does work... but won't do what you're looking for : doing that would be exactly the same thing as running apt-get from your current system
[08:55] <amh345> how can i figure out which of my drives is my os drive and which drive is the one i have to manually mount? im trying to setup an automatic mount for the second drive but i cant tell which is which
[08:55] <cc11rocks_1> (I wish I could connect to cc11rocks's ad-hoc channel...)
[08:55] <amh345> currently im using fdisk -l
[08:57] <luftikuss> amh345, command mount:Look for a single ' / '.
[08:57] <amh345> luftikuss: perfect. i see it.  thank you
[08:59] <JPeterson> why doesnt "sudo chroot /mnt apt-get" from the 12.04 live cd output anthing to stdout or stderr?
[08:59] <bekks> JPeterson: What do you expect?
[09:00] <JPeterson> bekks: the stdout stderr from "apt-get"
[09:00] <glebihan> JPeterson, if you're going to ignore everything that's being told to you, why do you bother asking for help ?
[09:00] <JPeterson> glebihan: no offence but i'm asking for advanced help
[09:00] <bekks> JPeterson: apt-get isnt a valid shell, but a valid executable. The chroot command doesnt know the difference, and just executes apt-get, ,which DOESNT give you a shell where you could see output at all.
[09:00] <glebihan> JPeterson, and you already got 2 answers...
[09:00] <bekks> glebihan: err, 3.
[09:00] <glebihan> bekks, yes 3 now
[09:01] <JPeterson> bekks: thanks for the lecture. can you answer how to redirect stdout now
[09:02] <bekks> JPeterson: Unless you extend apt-get to have to code to act as a shell, there is now way. Use a proper shell like bash instead of apt-get in your command sample.
[09:02] <JPeterson> just give the command. no explanations
[09:02] <JPeterson> do i adda bash -c?
[09:02] <Josh9449> Can someone help me?
[09:02] <bekks> JPeterson: chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[09:02] <glebihan> JPeterson, really ? that's the kind of advanced help you're looking for ???
[09:02] <Josh9449> I have xubuntu though but theres noone in that room
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Josh9449: state the issue clearly and with details and we'll try
[09:02] <dygey> hi guys. can someone help me a little with conky?
[09:03] <cfhowlett> Josh9449: the issue is???
[09:03] <Josh9449> OK well my network manager isnt working
[09:03] <Josh9449> Its off and im locked out of it i cant click it or anything to turn it on
[09:03] <bekks> glebihan: Obviously.
[09:03] <cfhowlett> Josh9449: dual boot?  boot windows, turn on the hardware switch, reboot ubuntu
[09:04] <Josh9449> I dont have windows
[09:04] <Josh9449> only xubuntu is on it
[09:04] <glebihan> bekks, in case you didn't follow from the beginning, his intention is to reinstall all default packages from the live CD onto his system
[09:04] <glebihan> bekks, we told him to reinstall the whole system
[09:04] <amh345> is linux a valid format of disk?  re: fstab
[09:04] <Josh9449> i checked to make sure the hardware switch was turned on in BIOS
[09:04] <cfhowlett> Josh9449: so you need to reset the hardware switch in xubuntu.  I THINK there's a way to force it ..
[09:05] <Josh9449> How?
[09:05] <cfhowlett> Josh9449: not sure.  Ask in this channel how to force the hardware switch on in xubuntu.
[09:05] <bekks> glebihan: Sounds like overkill ;) dpkg --get-selection, --set-selection should work too :) But reinstalling is more easy.
[09:05] <JPeterson> bekks. the purpose is to run apt-get on /mnt
[09:05] <Josh9449> Does anyone know how to force the hardware switch in xubuntu???
[09:06] <bekks> JPeterson: Then type apt-get after you got you bash shell.
[09:06] <dygey> ok, no help with conky...a little help with how to copy something or create a new folder in home folder? if i don't ask too much...
[09:06] <Josh9449> I mean force reset
[09:06] <amh345> ok linux is not a valid file system type
[09:06] <bekks> amh345: Expected.
[09:06] <glebihan> bekks, that wouldn't get back to the versions of the packages on the CD (which I can't see why he would need anyway)
[09:06] <bekks> amh345: What exactly are you trying to do?
[09:07] <bekks> glebihan: He wants the _versions_ back? :)
[09:07] <amh345> bekks, im trying to remember how to mount a drive permanently
[09:07] <JPeterson> bekks what? that runs apt-get from /mnt/usr/bin/apt-get
[09:07] <glebihan> bekks, why else would he want the packages from he CD ?
[09:07] <bekks> amh345: mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/mydrive :)
[09:07] <Josh9449> Does anyone know how to force reset the hardware switch in xubuntu?
[09:07] <bekks> JPeterson: Yes.
[09:07] <glebihan> JPeterson, of course it does, that's the point of chroot
[09:07] <amh345> bekks, that's all i need in fstab?
[09:07] <cfhowlett> !patience|josh9449
[09:07] <bekks> amh345: No :)
[09:07] <bekks> !fstab | amh345
[09:07] <amh345> bekks, the instructions im reading has other details
[09:08] <JPeterson> thanks eisntein. maybe this clears things up:
[09:08] <JPeterson> root@ubuntu:/# apt-get
[09:08] <JPeterson> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[09:08] <Josh9449> Ive been up all night looking for answeres
[09:08] <Josh9449> thats why i came here
[09:08] <cfhowlett> Josh9449: still gotta be patience.  Nobody here but volunteers and other people with problems...i.e. not necessarily the "experts"
[09:08] <TJ-> amh345: To find out the file-system used in a partition, use for example "sudo blkid /dev/sdaX" and look at the 'TYPE'
[09:09] <glebihan> !attitude | JPeterson
[09:09] <dygey> yeah, even the simplest answers...lol
[09:09] <TJ-> Josh9449: I missed your issue description. What is the problem? WiFi unable to be enabled when you click "Enable Wireless" in the network-manager applet?
[09:10] <Josh9449> TJ theres not even an opt to enable
[09:10] <cfhowlett> TJ-: per his description, the hardware switch is "off" and he needs to reset - xubuntu only
[09:10] <Josh9449> I cant click it period im locked out
[09:10] <Josh9449> Even ethernet wont work
[09:10] <amh345> TJ-: i saw type when i ran mount at command.  it says it's ext4.
[09:10] <TJ-> Josh9449: OK ... have you already sent the file /etc/network/interfaces to pastebin?
[09:10] <Josh9449> The only thing that shows is a message that says "NetworkManagr is not running...
[09:11] <Josh9449> when i hover over it with the mouse
[09:11] <cfhowlett> Josh9449: did the network EVER work?  say during live boot installation?
[09:11] <Josh9449> Yea but it never stayed connected for long
[09:11] <TJ-> amh345: Then you'd mount it using "sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdX /mnt/point" where "/mnt/point" is a pre-existing empty directory
[09:11] <Josh9449> And it never saved my network for auto connect
[09:12] <TJ-> Josh9449: I'd like to see that file: "/etc/network/interfaces"
[09:12] <Josh9449> In terminal?
[09:12] <cfhowlett> !paste|Josh9449:
[09:12] <Josh9449> I cant i dont have internet
[09:12] <Cantide> ...
[09:12] <bekks> You are in the internet, currently.
[09:12] <Josh9449> Its on my laptop im on a seperate computer
[09:13] <dygey> can somebody tell me how to create a folder in /home for that conky????
[09:13] <TJ-> Josh9449: You can copy the contents manually to a pastebin .. goto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:13] <bekks> Josh9449: You can use an USB stick to transfer the error message, or even write it down. :)
[09:13] <TJ-> Josh9449: if that files contains more than 3 or 4 lines I'd be surprised
[09:13] <Josh9449> I dont have a usb stick lol also i typed it into the terminal and it said permission denied
[09:14] <TJ-> Josh9449: do "cat /etc/network/interfaces"
[09:14] <cc11rocks_1> While we are on the subject of networking...
[09:14] <cc11rocks> I am trying to set up a wifi ad-hoc connection - from this computer to one of my laptops. When I try to set it up on here, I get a "network disconnected" notification or other nonsense. Is this a known bug in Ubuntu 12.04?
[09:14] <Josh9449> ok
[09:14] <TJ-> cc11rocks: use 'Log file viewer' to check /var/log/syslog for clues
[09:15] <Josh9449> Im typing it out now give me a minut
[09:15] <TJ-> Josh9449: will do, take your time :)
[09:15] <Josh9449> :)
[09:17] <TJ-> Whilst Josh is busy, can anyone remind me how, on Xubuntu, to run a GUI text edit as root? is it "gksudo mousepad /path/to/file" from an Alt+F2 command dialog?
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> TJ-:  that should work.
[09:18] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: I thought so - but a long time since I really used one of my Xubuntu notebooks
[09:19] <dygey> can't believe what happened with ubuntu's community...god
[09:19] <cc11rocks> http://pastebin.com/xqhNGYJy
[09:19] <Josh9449> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1142651/
[09:19] <Josh9449> There^^^
[09:19] <TJ-> Josh9449: thanks
[09:19] <Josh9449> Yw ":D
[09:20] <TJ-> Josh9449: that explains your problem and the fix is easy...
[09:20] <cc11rocks_1> That is the relevant log post for wifi ad-hoc failing...It does that over and over for each time I try to create a new one (made sure I deleted it first...even logged out and shutdown in between the first few failures)
[09:20] <dygey> or maybe i'm not in the right place?
[09:20] <Josh9449> :O really?
[09:20] <TJ-> Josh9449: Any network interface listed and configured in that file is *ignored* by network-manager since it assumes you want to manually control that interface
[09:20] <Josh9449> How do i fix it?
[09:21] <TJ-> Josh9449: press Alt+F2, at the command prompt type "gksudo mousepad /etc/network/interfaces", type your password, then delete the entire every line of that file after "iface lo inet loopback" - leave that line in place. Save the file, then restart the PC
[09:22] <TJ-> Josh9449: So the file will just have "auto lo"  and "iface lo inet loopback" and those lines before those which are comments (start with the # character)
[09:22] <Josh9449> is there a space between gksudo and mousepad? also do i select run in terminal?
[09:22] <sachael_> anyone know an application that can create (and export) good looking gantt chart? like for project planning? i tried planner, but wasnt satisfied with it.
[09:22] <TJ-> Josh9449: yes space... and no to terminal
[09:22] <dygey> working with command line specialists, but nobody can tell me where i can find the home folder
[09:22] <Josh9449> kk
[09:22] <dygey> just sensational
[09:23] <TJ-> Josh9449: that command will start a GUI text editor as the root user so you have permission to edit and save that file
[09:23] <TJ-> dygey: echo $HOME
[09:23] <TJ-> dygey: Or "cd ~"
[09:23] <Josh9449> can you pm this all to me its getting lost in all the text ;lol
[09:23] <cc11rocks_1> TJ - Did you have a go at my log I posted or are you just too busy with all the other folks?
[09:23] <TJ-> Josh9449: Have you started the text editor?
[09:23] <Josh9449> Pm?
[09:23] <TJ-> cc11rocks: I have it but I haven't time to investigate yet. Let me get Josh sorted out
[09:24] <cc11rocks_1> Alrighty, thank you :)
[09:24] <TJ-> Josh9449: no to PM... we prefer to let others learn how to solve problems by being able to watch in here
[09:24] <dygey> TJ-" yeah, cd, echo...tells me nothing. this is the first time i'm seeling linux
[09:24] <TJ-> Josh9449: Once the text editor is started and you can see the contents of the file, delete everything from "# The primary network interface" to the end of the file
[09:24] <TJ-> Josh9449: Then save the file, exit the text editor, and restart the PC
[09:25] <Josh9449> Nothing happened when i typed in the command
[09:25] <TJ-> dygey: "echo $HOME" should report the path to the current user's home directory. "cd ~" will change to the home directory. the "~" command is short for $HOME in most shells on Unux/Linux
[09:25] <bekks> dygey: cd /home/myusername
[09:25] <TJ-> Josh9449: hang on...
[09:25] <Josh9449> :(
[09:25] <Josh9449> ok
[09:26] <TJ-> Josh9449: Anyone with 12.04 Xubuntu, can we check the mousepad is the correct GUI text editor please?
[09:26] <Josh9449> Huh?
[09:26] <TJ-> Josh9449: wait .. I'm asking others to confirm this information for you - that mousepad is the text editor on Xubuntu
[09:26] <Josh9449> ohh
[09:27] <TJ-> Josh9449: It's a long time since I used Xubuntu so I don't have it to hand to check
[09:27] <Josh9449> Oh ok
[09:27] <sachael_> TJ-: mousepad is the text editor
[09:27] <dygey> bekks: thanks.
[09:27] <TJ-> sachael: thank you
[09:28] <W4sp> TJ-: Mousepad is but from command line try nano
[09:28] <TJ-> Josh9449: ok, you probably typed the command slightly wrong
[09:28] <TJ-> W4sp: trying not confuse Josh with nano!
[09:28] <Josh9449> Tell me it again?
[09:28] <TJ-> Josh9449: press Alt+F2, type "gksudo mousepad" ... that should start the GUI text editor
[09:28] <W4sp> TJ-: I tell you so it's in your hands.
[09:29] <TJ-> W4sp: I'm reserving that for the fall-back position :p
[09:29] <Josh9449> i typed it in
[09:29] <Josh9449> it asked for ,y pass and i typd that in too
[09:30] <Josh9449> nothing happened
[09:30] <Josh9449> -_-\
[09:30] <TJ-> Josh9449: oh! so that means mousepad is missing ... no worries, we'll do it from a terminal instead
[09:30] <Josh9449> oh -ok :D
[09:30] <cc11rocks_1> Use the terminal to "enable" mousepad :P (sudo apt-get install mousepad)
[09:31] <TJ-> Josh9449: at a terminal command line type "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces" - this should bring up a text based editor with the file loaded ready to edit
[09:31] <cc11rocks_1> Josh9449: Ignore me, listen to TJ-...While what I'm saying is valid, it was more of a joke...
[09:31] <TJ-> cc11rocks: :p
[09:31] <Josh9449> ok lol
[09:31] <TJ-> cc11rocks: We could also just reinstall the entire OS :D
[09:31] <Josh9449> this window popped up
[09:32] <cc11rocks_1> TJ- True, true :P
[09:32] <cc11rocks_1> lolz
[09:32] <TJ-> Josh9449: what's the window?
[09:32] <TJ-> Josh9449: does it show the file contents that you pasted to pastebin?