[08:55] <lee__> kismet best sniiffer for linux ubuntu ?
[08:55] <kimmey> but vmware workstation costs money
[08:55] <ignignokt00> get vmware player
[08:55] <ignignokt00> i think?
[08:55] <adobeman> Jordan_U: Cool, thanks for the link.
[08:55] <DarkFame> kimmey: I haven't tried vmware server in windows, why is the performance so bad?
[08:55] <Jordan_U> kimmey, Is that true with Ubuntu running as host and guest also?
[08:55] <wols> lee__: aircrack-ng perhaps
[08:55] <wols> !best > lee__
[08:55] <T-Connect> I wonder when ntfs-3g-1.616 will be listed on Synaptic Package Manager?
[08:56] <wols> T-Connect: with gutsy? why do you need it?
[08:56] <kimmey> DarkFame: probably cus server are made for use by monstermachines (quad core ex)
[08:56] <DarkFame> kimmey: runs like a dream on my AMD64 X2
[08:56] <kimmey> the delay made me crazy
[08:56] <T-Connect> I have non gutsy ubuntu version.
[08:56] <kimmey> Not mine
[08:56] <DarkFame> but the host is linux not windows
[08:56] <T-Connect> 7.04
[08:57] <DarkFame> delay?
[08:57] <kimmey> atleast it didnt work well in windows
[08:57] <Jordan_U> T-Connect, Why do you need that specific version of ntfs-3g?
[08:57] <kimmey> ye, about 0.5-1 sec for each typing
[08:57] <DarkFame> lol
[08:57] <DarkFame> sounds really bad
[08:57] <siimo> when will edgy be disappearing from ubuntu archive mirrors??
[08:57] <T-Connect> I have another hard drive for storage
[08:57] <DarkFame> it's not anything like that on my system
[08:57] <ignignokt00> Jordan_U: any other advice for power management?  i can't watch movies away from my computer :'
[08:57] <wols> DarkFame: support time is 18 months I think
[08:57] <TheFallenArchAng> Hello everyone
[08:57] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | T-Connect
[08:57] <ubotu> T-Connect: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:57] <kimmey> But I made it work a bit better with a patch for x2-cpus and vmware-tools
[08:57] <ignignokt00> :'( that was supposed to be
[08:57] <Lowlande1> Anyone ever booted ubuntu with virtual med on Dell RAC? Booting ok, but can't find cd-rom for install :\
[08:57] <Flannel> siimo: A good while.  It's supported for 18 months.
[08:58] <DarkFame> wols: I think you answered the wrong guy. :P
[08:58] <kimmey> and, its in the name.. server and workstation..
[08:58] <TheFallenArchAng> anyone who wants to offer some help with wifi???
[08:58] <wols> !ask | TheFallenArchAng
[08:58] <ubotu> TheFallenArchAng: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:58] <Jordan_U> TheFallenArchAng, What chipset?
[08:58] <DarkFame> kimmey: difference, workstation cant run as a service. server does.
[08:59] <TheFallenArchAng> needin some help settin it up can't get it to rec. my chipset
[08:59] <TheFallenArchAng> atheros
[08:59] <TheFallenArchAng> 5007rg
[08:59] <TheFallenArchAng> eg
[08:59] <wols> !madwifi | TheFallenArchAng
[08:59] <ubotu> TheFallenArchAng: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:59] <RoC_MasterMind> kimmey, there is a comprehensive difference list....google it
[08:59] <DarkFame> kimmey: I've been running 3-4 virtual machines while playing ET online
[08:59] <TheFallenArchAng> been there done that and also tried madwifi
[08:59] <kimmey> what pc do you have?
[08:59] <DarkFame> AMD X2 4200+, 2 GB RAM
[08:59] <T-Connect> Oh God. I hate faq.
[09:00] <CVD> where is the grub menu located ti edit something?
[09:00] <kimmey> with ubuntu as main-os?
[09:00] <Flannel> CVD: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:00] <ignignokt00> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:00] <DarkFame> no, PCLOS 2007
[09:00] <CVD> thnx
[09:00] <TheFallenArchAng> i have tried ndiswrapper, driver loader etc. nothing so far works
[09:01] <wols> !doesn't work TheFallenArchAng
[09:01] <kimmey> i could never done that here in winxp :O
[09:01] <T-Connect> I past on NTFS faq
[09:01] <TheFallenArchAng> with ndiswrapper it tells me invalid driver driverloader tells me it can't load the sys file
[09:01] <wols> !doesn't work |TheFallenArchAng
[09:01] <veneboy_> jordan_U: restarting X...   will i come back... ????
[09:01] <ubotu> TheFallenArchAng: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[09:01] <DarkFame> kimmey: why are you in XP?
[09:01] <Jordan_U> T-Connect, Why, it is ~ one paragraph?
[09:01] <Tom47> how would i install just gnome (not the whole ubuntu-desktop) ?
[09:01] <kimmey> on this machine i need it for work
[09:01] <wols> Tom47: install gnome
[09:01] <ignignokt00> sudo apt-get install gdm?
[09:01] <wols> ignignokt00: gdm is not gnome
[09:02] <kimmey> when i wanted to virtualize ubuntu, freebsd etc.. and it didnt work well
[09:02] <ignignokt00> my bad
[09:02] <TheFallenArchAng> the restriced drivers says hal is in use but when i open network mang. it shows wired network and dial up no wireless
[09:02] <ignignokt00> is there any way i can get ubuntu to tell me what mobo chipset i have?
[09:02] <Tom47> wols thats it huh ok want to do it in a server vm
[09:02] <Jordan_U> TheFallenArchAng, Is your card set to roaming mode in network-admin?
[09:02] <Polygon89> ignignokt00, you can try "sudo lshw"
[09:02] <kimmey> i worked with it a few days without any good performance (amd 64x2 3600+, 3gb, 250 sata)
[09:02] <Flannel> Tom47: gnome-core is what you want, not gnome.
[09:02] <DarkFame> kimmey: virtualize winxp
[09:02] <TheFallenArchAng> dont know i am kinda new to ubuntu
[09:03] <Jordan_U> TheFallenArchAng, Go to System -> Administration -> Networking
[09:03] <Tom47> Flannel ah ok
[09:03] <kimmey> Then ill try it vice versa later
[09:03] <assasukasse> hi all, i have a problem with a xerox workcentrer 250, when i try to print it comes out alot of white pages..
[09:03] <assasukasse> how can i do?
[09:03] <Jordan_U> TheFallenArchAng, Make sure that your wireless card is set to roaming mode
[09:03] <kimmey> Atleast xp didnt like it.. :-p
[09:03] <TheFallenArchAng> ok there
[09:03] <assasukasse> ubuntu recognize as workcenter 450 but is 250
[09:04] <T-Connect> I'm afraid that I will install that broken NTFS back.
[09:04] <TheFallenArchAng> wired connection is set to auto dhcp
[09:04] <Jordan_U> T-Connect, What broken ntfs? Do you mean a broken version of ntfs-3g? If so what problems did you have and where did you install it from?
[09:05] <kimmey> vmware server dosent suppor sound?
[09:05] <chowmeined> kimmey: it does, you need to add a sound card
[09:05] <DarkFame> kimmey: it does
[09:05] <TheFallenArchAng> jordan_u how can i set a setting that dosent exsit
[09:05] <Ace_NoOne> what could be wrong with this command: find . -name *.php -exec sed s/\?\>\s+$/\?\>/ '{}' \; (replacing whitespaces at the end of PHP files)
[09:05] <Jordan_U> kimmey, It does, you just need to add a sound card
[09:05] <T-Connect> Install it from Synaptic Package Manager
[09:05] <emman101> how do i edit my log out my ubuntu and "deep freeze" my desktop?
[09:05] <zachinglis> Hey all, tried http://pastie.caboo.se/74674  and tried http://pastie.caboo.se/74676 - any idea?
[09:05] <wols> T-Connect: broken in what way?
[09:05] <paolo_> ... "man 2" doesn't work on my ubuntu. which package should i download?
[09:05] <Jordan_U> TheFallenArchAng, So you don't see your wireless card in network-admin either?
[09:06] <TheFallenArchAng> no
[09:06] <T-Connect> unmount is broken
[09:06] <wols> paolo_: none. you didn't specify a manpage
[09:06] <Flannel> T-Connect: 'umount' not unmount
[09:06] <TheFallenArchAng> my lspci shows atheros communications  device unknown
[09:06] <wols> T-Connect: broken how?
[09:06] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: update-pciids
[09:06] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: and the madwifi driver is the proper one if the the chipname you gave us is right
[09:06] <Jordan_U> TheFallenArchAng, When you run "iwconfig" do you see an ath0?
[09:07] <TheFallenArchAng> correct
[09:07] <T-Connect> I get a red dot on the screen saying that I can't unmount with NFTS.
[09:07] <TheFallenArchAng> yes and it says no wireless device
[09:07] <siimo> T-Connect: red dot??? wtf
[09:07] <veneboy> wow... what a mess! hehe.
[09:07] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: it means a file is open on that mount
[09:07] <kimmey> DarkFame: how is gaming with xp as guest-os in ubuntu? have you tried it?
[09:07] <TheFallenArchAng> ??
[09:07] <DarkFame> kimmey: gaming in vmware!?
[09:08] <wols> T-Connect: it means a file is open on that mount or the mount was shut down unclean
[09:08] <T-Connect> There wasn't anything open
[09:08] <veneboy> video woke up... but some other things didn't.
[09:08] <veneboy> :(
[09:08] <kimmey> DarkFame: yeah! :-p
[09:08] <wols> T-Connect: how do you know?
[09:08] <DarkFame> kimmey: there is no 3d support in vmware
[09:08] <Jordan_U> T-Connect, Did you have a file browser open, or a terminal cd'd to a directory on it?
[09:08] <shrimants> on an HP DV9500t, should i install ubuntu or will it have bad functionality?
[09:08] <TheFallenArchAng> this is a fresh install and not been shutdown yet
[09:08] <veneboy> had no network connection... no icons... no sound...
[09:08] <T-Connect> I reboot it many imes.
[09:08] <veneboy> and no consoles...
[09:08] <veneboy> hehe
[09:08] <T-Connect> Nothing helps
[09:08] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: was wrong nick complete, sorry
[09:08] <TheFallenArchAng> ok
[09:08] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: as for your problem: have you installed and loaded the madwifi drivers?
[09:09] <TheFallenArchAng> yes but not this time
[09:09] <veneboy> so... i think i'm going to sleep now.
[09:09] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: that means no
[09:09] <T-Connect> Maybe NTFS is open?
[09:09] <TheFallenArchAng> i have installed and reinstalled ubuntu 4 times trying a different method each time
[09:09] <veneboy> bye.
[09:09] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: do not reinstall. ubuntu is not windows
[09:09] <Jordan_U> T-Connect, What do you mean by that?
[09:09] <ignignokt00> can i get a usb flash drive to work with a freedos boot disk
[09:09] <wols> ignignokt00: OT
[09:10] <TheFallenArchAng> like i said this is a fresh install have not even updated ubuntu yet due to the sound issues
[09:10] <emman101> wew
[09:10] <T-Connect> Could it be it confused?
[09:10] <ignignokt00> wols: what?
[09:10] <wols> T-Connect: you are confused
[09:10] <wols> ignignokt00: what you ask is OT
[09:10] <ignignokt00> oh, sorry
[09:10] <TheFallenArchAng> i had to reinstall i updated my bios i had to use windows
[09:10] <T-Connect> Well I won't put it back because it doesn't work right.
[09:11] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: that is no rason if you have a DOS based flash program. all you do is burn a bootable CD or floppy with freedos
[09:11] <wols> T-Connect: suit yourself
[09:11] <TheFallenArchAng> i know i found that out afterwords
[09:11] <Jordan_U> T-Connect, I doubt that your problems are being caused by ntfs-3g
[09:12] <T-Connect> Want me to reinstall it?
[09:12] <T-Connect> Then show you?
[09:12] <Jordan_U> T-Connect, Yes
[09:12] <wols> T-Connect: we don't want you to do anything. you want something, we don't
[09:12] <Jordan_U> T-Connect, Install ntfs-config
[09:12] <xjkx> is the word tux trademarked?
[09:12] <wols> T-Connect: all we can say is if you want read/write access to ntfs partitins, ntfs-3h it is under ubuntu
[09:12] <Jordan_U> wols, Actually I am curious :)
[09:12] <emman101> how do i edit my log out to my ubuntu and "deep freeze" my desktop?
[09:13] <wols> emman101: put it in a freezer. carefu with the powercable tho. and condensation!
[09:13] <Jordan_U> emman101, By deep freeze to you mean suspend to disk?
[09:13] <TheFallenArchAng> from many forums i have read that it works out the box have not seen that yet
[09:13] <T-Connect> Huh ubuntu already have that?
[09:13] <Frogzoo> emman101: sys -> prefs -> session "save now"
[09:14] <shrimants> intel 4965 is currently unsupported by ubuntu/linux, correct?
[09:14] <T-Connect> wols?
[09:14] <RememberPOL> What's the easiest way to find out the type of video card (if any) a machine that I'm ssh'd to has installed?
[09:14] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: stop whining. you haven't said anything constructive about your problem yet at all. maybe you should start?
[09:14] <TheFallenArchAng> like what
[09:14] <Jordan_U> wols, please try to be more polite
[09:14] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: and it's very unlikely that your problem solves on its own. if you want something to solve it for you, with you not lifting a finger: hire a conslutant
[09:15] <emman101> Frogzoo:  there is not prefs inside sys folder
[09:15] <Frogzoo> RememberPOL: lspci
[09:15] <RememberPOL> I did and there's nothing about 'ideo'
[09:15] <Frogzoo> emman101: through the gnome menu
[09:15] <T-Connect> Who the ubuntu programmers?
[09:15] <ignignokt00> what does one use to write an image to a floppy?
[09:15] <TheFallenArchAng> no i am tring to learn myself i have read many post and tried many differnt options
[09:15] <wols> T-Connect: ubuntu has (almost) no programmers
[09:15] <cyphase> isn't rhythmbox supposed to auto-install codecs like totem does?
[09:15] <RememberPOL> Frogzoo: but dmesg returns [   15.146816]  Boot video device is 0000:01:00.0
[09:15] <wols> T-Connect: the vast number of software is written by other people than ubuntu
[09:16] <Jordan_U> cyphase, Not yet AFIK
[09:16] <wols> cyphase: it's supposed to prompt you.
[09:16] <emman101> Frogzoo: im using ubuntu
[09:16] <Frogzoo> RememberPOL: if lspci doesn't help, try lshw
[09:16] <wols> !codecs | cyphase
[09:16] <ubotu> cyphase: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:16] <T-Connect> You didn't help write ubuntu?
[09:16] <RememberPOL> Frogzoo: Actually, this must be it .. 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 02)
[09:16] <gordonjcp> morning
[09:16] <wols> RememberPOL: and what is "0000:01:00.0"? note that linux can run headless
[09:16] <gordonjcp> silly question, but is there a way to tell synaptic to ignore an upgrade?
[09:17] <cyphase> wols: i'm just bringing up the issue because i'm playing with tribe 2.. i already have all my codecs installed
[09:17] <crdlb> !pin | gordonjcp
[09:17] <ubotu> gordonjcp: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[09:17] <wols> gordonjcp: you can h9ld back packages. no clue how to do that in synaptic tho
[09:17] <TheFallenArchAng> here is my "lspci" 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 001c (rev 01)
[09:17] <wols> gordonjcp: hold back
[09:17] <RememberPOL> wols: Not sure, i just grep'd dmesg for 'ideo'
[09:17] <kjw75> is the next version called gusty or gutsy?
[09:17] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: I told you: run update-pciids
[09:17] <ignignokt00> gutsy
[09:17] <shiester_miester> T-Connect, id be willing to bet that none of the people in here at all are actual ubuntu programmers at all
[09:17] <T-Connect> lol
[09:17] <T-Connect> XD
[09:18] <kjw75> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gusty has both
[09:18] <TheFallenArchAng> trhough a term or syn pack
[09:18] <ignignokt00> what should i use to write an image to a floppy?
[09:18] <Sepero> Ubuntu Goatsy
[09:18] <T-Connect> I was talking to the wrong people then.
[09:18] <ignignokt00> ahahaha
[09:18] <wols> RememberPOL: it has a built in vga chip yes. via unichrome. bad chip but ok on a server I guess
[09:18] <wols> ignignokt00: dd
[09:18] <ignignokt00> thanks
[09:18] <DarkFame> ignignokt00: dd if=imagefile.img of=/dev/fd0
[09:18] <RememberPOL> wols: Any driver I can use to get better performance than vesa?
[09:19] <mat1980> !bootfloppy | ignignokt00
[09:19] <ubotu> ignignokt00: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:19] <eternalswd> does anyone know of a gtk text editor, preferably tabbed, that doesn't lose the selection buffer on a left-click?
[09:19] <wols> RememberPOL: sis I think. 2D only
[09:19] <RememberPOL> still
[09:19] <RememberPOL> maybe "via"?
[09:19] <wols> could be too
[09:19] <wols> damn 3rd rate videocard makers!
[09:19] <kjw75> wonder why so many people have it as gusty on their websites
[09:19] <TheFallenArchAng> wols ok my lspci now says 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[09:19] <gordonjcp> wols: hrm, nope
[09:20] <eternalswd> wols, what videocard?
[09:20] <gordonjcp> even after pinning the kernel it went ahead and updated it anyway :-/
[09:20] <wols> eternalswd: RememberPOL's
[09:20] <wols> gordonjcp: did I say anything about pinning? I said hold back
[09:20] <TheFallenArchAng> still nothing in my network manger
[09:20] <TheFallenArchAng> just wired and daidl up
 hold is a status flag which tells apt (or aptitude) not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package, 'echo pkgname hold|dpkg --set-selections' or use = in aptitude's curses interface. You can ignore a hold by using apt-get install foopkg; or by using + in aptitude's curses interface. [Note that this is *NOT* the same as packages which have been "held back"
[09:20] <Jordan_U> cyphase, But it is being integrated into the gstreamer back end so I assume it will in the next version
[09:20] <wols>  becaus they require packa ges that are not currently (or tri
[09:20] <gordonjcp> wols: it shouldn't try to override a "non-standard" decision anyway
[09:20] <eternalswd> wols, ah, right, misread that.
[09:21] <eternalswd> RememberPOL, what videocard?
[09:21] <wols> gordonjcp: do you have limx-image-2.6 installed?
[09:21] <Jordan_U> TheFallenArchAng, There was a restricted module update today, that might fix your wifi issues
[09:21] <cyphase> Jordan_U: i see
[09:21] <gordonjcp> wols: s/limx/linux/
[09:21] <emman101> how do i edit my log out to my ubuntu and "deep freeze" my desktop? i don't want users to change my desktop
[09:21] <TheFallenArchAng> hmm let me update
[09:21] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: so you loaded madwifi?
[09:21] <gordonjcp> wols: I'm running 2.6.20-15-lowlatency
[09:21] <TheFallenArchAng> no
[09:22] <wols> gordonjcp: that's not what I asked
[09:22] <TheFallenArchAng> just upadatedpciids
[09:22] <RememberPOL> eternalswd: S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter
[09:22] <RememberPOL> thanks wols Frogzoo
[09:22] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: then why did you expect it to work now?
[09:22] <yousefm87> I need some help
[09:22] <yousefm87> my sound isn
[09:22] <TheFallenArchAng> i will try madawifi again
[09:22] <yousefm87> 't  working
[09:22] <wols> !doesn't work |yousefm87
[09:22] <ubotu> yousefm87: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[09:22] <T-Connect> Will this work? http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[09:23] <yousefm87> anyone have an intel 82801g(ICH7 family) sound card
[09:23] <wols> T-Connect: no. and it's OT here
[09:23] <wols> !anyone | yousefm87
[09:23] <ubotu> yousefm87: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:23] <yousefm87> so I can see which sound device i have but i can't get any sound out of it
[09:23] <T-Connect> Whats OT?
[09:23] <yousefm87> i've tried running it on both 6.10 and 7.04 but it doesn't work
[09:23] <shiester_miester> T-Connect, off topic
[09:23] <shiester_miester> means, dont ask about it :P
[09:23] <Jordan_U> T-Connect, There is nothing wrong with the ntfs-3g from the repos
[09:24] <Jordan_U> T-Connect, And if you think there is you should file a bug against it
[09:24] <T-Connect> I want the lates version. :(
[09:24] <yousefm87> Does anyone know how to help me? I am running Feisty and my sound isn't working; however my sound card is being recognized by the hardware manager
[09:24] <Jordan_U> T-Connect, Critical changes are backported
[09:24] <eternalswd> emman101, do you mean you don't want someone accessing your desktop while you are still logged in but idle, or you don't want someone to change your desktop background, or maybe I'm completely lost.
[09:25] <wols> T-Connect: if you do, you are on your own and OT for this channel. ask someone else
[09:25] <shiester_miester> yousefm87, try asking in #alsa , they helped me with a similar problem
[09:25] <L0cKn> hi Remotes_90
[09:25] <Remotes_90> hi!
[09:25] <yousefm87> awesome thanks
[09:25] <T-Connect> X(
[09:26] <shiester_miester> T-Connect, what are you trying to do?
[09:26] <T-Connect> I want a stable ntfs-3g
[09:26] <zachinglis> Hey all, tried http://pastie.caboo.se/74674  and tried http://pastie.caboo.se/74676 - any idea? i have multiverse etc enabled and installed php/mysql/ruby/svn/etc
[09:26] <shiester_miester> T-Connect, the standard one should be stable
[09:27] <niuq> hello, how can i uninstall netbeans5.5?
[09:27] <shiester_miester> T-Connect, have you seen otherwise?
[09:27] <TheFallenArchAng> when i get to the step to ifconfig ath0 down and wifi down i get this messege ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[09:27] <shiester_miester> niuq, go to the netbeans website, download the packages
[09:27] <niuq> i wants to install it again, cause i moved some files and it doesnt works :S
[09:27] <mat1980> niuq: sudo apt-get install netbeans5.5
[09:27] <T-Connect> I can't it with ubuntu because it not listes
[09:27] <niuq> shiester_miester: download package?
[09:27] <T-Connect> listed
[09:27] <niuq> no no i want to UNinstall
[09:27] <shiester_miester> oh ok, sorry
[09:28] <shiester_miester> i misread
[09:28] <niuq> shiester_miester: np
[09:28] <Quiz> how can i update nautilus via sudo apt-get update?
[09:28] <T-Connect> Older version is listed.
[09:28] <xlp> in the event i want to uninstall ubuntu, i can just plug back in my winxp hdd and then later connect my linux hdd and format from winxp?
[09:28] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: the driver is not loaded
[09:28] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: or not properly. run dmesg and check
[09:29] <shiester_miester> xlp, as long as you dont mess with your hardware, yes, but you wont be able to format the ubuntu partition in winxp
[09:29] <wols> niuq: same place you installed it. synaptic can uninstall too
[09:29] <mat1980> niuq: Exec the uninstaller in netbeans-5.5/_uninstall.
[09:29] <eternalswd> xlp, as long as the winxp hdd still has it's MBR intact, then yes, but you'll have to switch the pin configuration on the linux hdd to be a slave drive
[09:29] <wols> zachinglis: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libconfig-inifiles-perl&searchon=names&subword=1&version=feisty&release=all
[09:29] <wols> zachinglis: as you can see: universe is needed
[09:29] <shiester_miester> xlp, well, not with explorer anyway, since it can't see ext3 partitions, but you could do it with a different app
[09:29] <xlp> shiester_miester, well, then i could just throw in the live cd and format the hdd from there?
[09:30] <shiester_miester> xlp, yes
[09:30] <zachinglis> wols: i have universe enabled too: http://pastie.caboo.se/74678
[09:30] <niuq> hey, i have netbeans install it, but i fuck it up some files and now it does not works, if i install it via sudo apt-get install netbeans5.5, it's going to make another installation over the existing or a new one, leaving the old one there
[09:30] <T-Connect> I wish ubuntu just stick to NTFS and Fat32
[09:30] <TheFallenArchAng>  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[09:30] <imbecile> what does Segmentation fault (core dumped) mean?
[09:30] <shiester_miester> T-Connect, thats impossible
[09:30] <niuq> sorry for the language....
[09:30] <TheFallenArchAng> eth0: link down
[09:30] <TheFallenArchAng> fromdmesg
[09:30] <xlp> shiester_miester, what about the mbr on the nix hdd? given that the winxp mbr will be read first, i still dont want the nix one laying around
[09:30] <wols> niuq: no. it will tell you netbeans is already installed
[09:30] <Quiz> Can anywon help ???!! How can i update nautilus? Thanks for answer
[09:30] <wols> !apt- | zachinglis
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt- - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <Sepero> emman101: Other users cannot change your desktop.
[09:31] <wols> !apt | zachinglis
[09:31] <ubotu> zachinglis: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:31] <shiester_miester> xlp, what do you mean "laying around"?
[09:31] <shiester_miester> xlp, if you set the boot priority properly, it will boot from the winxp drive and not from the ubuntu one
[09:31] <eternalswd> shiester_miester, xp should detect the partition, it just won't load it as a drive.  would have to use Administrator Tools' Drive Management or whatever it's called
[09:31] <Sepero> emman101: Only you and anyone who can 'sudo' can change your desktop.
[09:31] <xlp> shiester_miester, i rather have grub off of it than still sitting on it
[09:31] <kjw75> is gutsy somewhat stable, or is it just a mess to use?
[09:31] <novato_br> !wine
[09:31] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:31] <mat1980> niuq: I've told you the solution. In the install directory of netbeans there is a directory called _uninstall with an installer inside. Exec that installer.
[09:31] <zachinglis> wols: I know that much. And ?
[09:31] <wols> !ot | kjw75
[09:31] <shiester_miester> xlp, just format the drive then, that gets rid of grub, i think
[09:31] <ubotu> kjw75: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:32] <novato_br> !vmware
[09:32] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[09:32] <niuq> wols: i tried to run it with     netbeans5.5 but it says it is not installed
[09:32] <T-Connect> Ok wols I'm on my own on NTFS. So no go.
[09:32] <wols> niuq: how did you install netbeans then?
[09:32] <shiester_miester> T-Connect, what do you mean?
[09:32] <niuq> matl1980: ok ok i'll try it now
[09:32] <eternalswd> xlp, yep reformatting will delete the MBR as well
[09:32] <T-Connect> I gave up.
[09:32] <shiester_miester> T-Connect, the ntfs drivers work perfectly, im using them myself
[09:32] <xlp> nice
[09:32] <zachinglis> wols: Why did you show me that? I know what apt is/does?
[09:32] <niuq> wols: i downloaded the files from netbeans.org
[09:32] <T-Connect> Which version?
[09:33] <askand> samba service is not started on boot..I have to do a "sudo /etc/init.d/samba start" can I fix that?
[09:33] <xlp> last noob question, where do i get all the fancy desktop managers? :D
[09:33] <shiester_miester> xlp, beryl is all you need, just google it
[09:33] <xlp> :D
[09:33] <wols> askand: ls -l /etc/rc.d/*samba*
[09:33] <wols> niuq: then ask them how to unisntall. not us
[09:33] <shiester_miester> T-Connect, im not sure which :/ if i do "ntfs-config --version" it gives me version 0.5.5
[09:34] <ignignokt00> zachinglis: apt updates nautilus automatically
[09:34] <wols> shiester_miester: dpkg -l | grep ntfs
[09:34] <ignignokt00> ..and everything else
[09:34] <eternalswd> xlp, depends on what you mean by fancy.  I prefer fluxbox myself :p
[09:34] <shiester_miester> ah ok
[09:34] <wols> zachinglis: but you don't know how to use it
[09:34] <xlp> noob proof
[09:34] <shiester_miester> T-Connect, version 1.328-1
[09:34] <zachinglis> wols: How do I not know how to use it? Postfix is having problems, maybe conflictions.
[09:35] <shiester_miester> xlp, noob proof - buy a mac
[09:35] <wols> zachinglis: you start by reading the url
[09:35] <askand> wols: Should i put samba in rc.d instead of init.d?
[09:35] <shiester_miester> linux is most certainly NOT noob-proof, lol
[09:35] <xlp> LOL
[09:35] <xlp> i was afraid of that
[09:35] <wols> zachinglis: and paste your sources.list. imho your universe repo is wrong or you don't know how to use apt
[09:35] <shiester_miester> the solution is to not be a noob
[09:35] <Flannel> xlp: #ubuntu-effects is the ubuntu channel for eyecandy, they should have tutorials/walkthroughs in the topic.
[09:36] <zachinglis> wols: Once again, I know how to use apt-get. My sources.list is fine.   You have edgy's universe enabled.
[09:39] <wols> askand: dpkg -l |grep samba
[09:40] <askand> wols: ii  samba                                      3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2                          a LanManager-like file and printer server fo
[09:40] <askand> ii  samba-common                               3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2                          Samba common files used by both the server a
[09:40] <zachinglis> wols: Reading the documentation will not get me any closer to finding out what the reason behind the issues are. I suspsect it is conflictions personally. Though easily could be wrong. So how about, if you're going to hang around a support channel, that you want to help. Rather than acting like it's such a burden to help people and get off your high horse ;) and yes, you think 'helping people who don't help themselves...' bullshit,
[09:40] <zachinglis> Flannel: Thank you.
[09:40] <wols> askand: use rcconf
[09:40] <wols> zachinglis: the issue is apt cannot find the packages. since packages.ubuntu.com does, you did something wrong setting up apt with your universe repos. QeD
[09:41] <Sepero> grep is the most popular Ubuntu package around. I find that quite impressive considering most people probably don't know how to use it. :)
[09:41] <wols> zachinglis: and I told that to you time and again. if you don't want to listen: your choice. good day
[09:41] <metbsd> is there a way to turn an ide hard drive into a usb hard drive?
[09:41] <TheFallenArchAng> ok kinda of i stupid question i think i know the answer but to be sure the first command says  sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` -----uname -r means ???
[09:41] <wols> Sepero: grep is part of base isntall. always needed :)
[09:41] <xlp> i think im going to get banned but... i like osx lol
[09:41] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: your kernel vesion
[09:42] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: your kernel version
[09:42] <askand> wols: samba is not in rcconf...
[09:42] <Sepero> wols: Yeah, but grep even beats perl :)
[09:42] <TheFallenArchAng> thx
[09:42] <T-Connect> XD
[09:42] <wols> askand: do you know what a symlink is?
[09:42] <zachinglis> wols: you never gave me any direction apart from 'read about the function', I'd of been happy to help myself with more of a clue.
[09:42] <wols> question: what Sxx does samba use in ubuntu (check /etc/rc2.d)
[09:42] <askand>  wols: know what it is but not have to make one..
[09:43] <Sepero> metbsd: You could try searching for a case that might allow you to do that.
[09:43] <wols> 09:29 < wols> zachinglis: as you can see: universe is needed 09:29 < wols> zachinglis: as you can see: universe is needed09:35 < wols> zachinglis: and paste your sources.list. imho your universe repo is wrong or you don't know how to use apt
[09:43] <zachinglis> wols: Never got those messages.
[09:43] <wols> zachinglis: if you know how to use apt, this should be all you need to check for yoursefl. in case if you don't know about apt: read the howto
[09:43] <defrysk> zachinglis, you di get those , we all did
[09:43] <wols> zachinglis: they are public in channel
[09:43] <zachinglis> (Im currently visiting my fiancs in Malaysia so on a 56k.)
[09:43] <zachinglis> defrysk: I LITERALLY didn't get those
[09:43] <Flannel> guys, drop it.   I just know what I see.
[09:45] <wols> zachinglis: even 56k can keep up with #ubuntu, IF nothing else is running
[09:45] <zachinglis> And yet I have other things running.
[09:45] <bruenig> unless he disconnected or something
[09:45] <Sepero> xlp: What wine tutorial?
[09:45] <zachinglis> Anyway, this is a poor 56k at that.
[09:45] <xlp> !wine
[09:45] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:45] <TheFallenArchAng> svn command not found
[09:45] <zachinglis> Wifi with 5 people. And drops.
[09:45] <bruenig> !info svn | TheFallenArchAng
[09:45] <J-_> Is there something I use to probe my server to see if there are any vulnerabilities?
[09:45] <ubotu> thefallenarchang: Package svn does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:45] <Flannel> TheFallenArchAng: you need to install subversion
[09:45] <TheFallenArchAng> directed towards wols sorry
[09:46] <zachinglis> Anyway, what's with such accusations.
[09:46] <wols> zachinglis: as bruenig said, then you are only lagged. only way to miss something is to disconnect due to excessive lag. youd didn't. now go and fix your problem
[09:46] <TheFallenArchAng> flannel how may i ask
[09:46] <Flannel> Guys, it's over and offtopic, drop it.
[09:46] <wols> J-_: nessus
[09:46] <J-_> wols: thanks
[09:46] <Flannel> TheFallenArchAng: install the package 'subversion' thorugh your favorite package manager
[09:46] <bruenig> the latency ate the packets
[09:46] <J-_> !info nessus > J-_
[09:46] <wols> TheFallenArchAng: buy installing the package ubotu just messaged you about
[09:46] <wols> J-_: simply message the bot. don't do a selftell
[09:47] <J-_> wols: selftell?
[09:47] <zachinglis> Whatever. I know what I see wols. But then again, as I have found out ... you're better than everyone else ;D Really, I have nfc what's up with everyone here. I'm a decent guy having troubles, I spend a LOT of time giving advice in my own fields and I never treat anyone the way you guys have treated me.
[09:47] <DrkCodeman> any idea when flash will be supported in 64bit version?
[09:47] <Flannel> DrkCodeman: whenever macrodobe releases a 64bit version
[09:47] <bruenig> DrkCodeman, never?
[09:47] <wols> DrkCodeman: no one does. ask adobe
[09:47] <magnetron> DrkCodeman: when gnash is ready.
[09:47] <wols> bruenig: one day they will
[09:48] <wols> magnetron: good point
[09:48] <J-_> wols: well, why flood the channel with a trigger/package I need to know about?
[09:48] <ignignokt00> zachinglis: what do you want?  have you enabled universe repos?
[09:48] <defrysk> zachinglis, /j #ubuntu-wining
[09:48] <bruenig> I doubt gnash will ever be ready
[09:48] <wols> magnetron: but seeing things like GNU java, HURD, etc: make it an "IF" :
[09:48] <DrkCodeman> im not downgrading firefox for flash ;P
[09:48] <bruenig> it will be like wine, it might get close enough to be reasonably usable, but never really that great
[09:48] <Flannel> zachinglis: did you see the issues with your sources.list and get it resolved?
[09:48] <magnetron> bruenig: why not?
[09:48] <wols> magnetron: cause flash is a moving target
[09:49] <bruenig> magnetron, because flash is evolving, by the time they caught up to 7, or pretty close to what is 7, adobe puts out 9 and so forth and so on
[09:49] <wols> magnetron: and the reason to replace is is a fringe one
[09:49] <zachinglis> Not yet, I have been trying to work out why I was treated in such a manner. It pisses me off.
[09:49] <bruenig> and 7 was the only flash for a very long time
[09:49] <waggggg> olaaaaaaa
[09:49] <ignignokt00> zachinglis: they did treat you a little bit roughly, but you were being kind of hard to help there for a while
[09:49] <wols> zachinglis: simply put: ayou accused people wrongly not telling you and you told disprovable lies. we know how irc works
[09:49] <magnetron> wols, bruenig: they already support all flash7, and now they support the flash8 of google video and youtube
[09:50] <zachinglis> wols: And I know what I see.
[09:50] <wols> zachinglis: and we know what we see. no go away with your whining. you are OT
[09:50] <bruenig> !manners | zachinglis
[09:50] <ubotu> zachinglis: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:50] <wols> zachinglis: if you wanna complain about me: !ops | wols was mean to me
[09:50] <bruenig> magnetron, flash 7 was static for a very long time
[09:50] <logan> Can anyone recommend me a good music player, playlists and randomization is nice
[09:51] <bruenig> logan, exaile
[09:51] <wols> magnetron: I haven't seen anyone using gnash successfully with youtube/video yet. maybe I haven't looked hard enough
[09:51] <bruenig> !best | logan
[09:51] <ubotu> logan: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[09:51] <magnetron> wols: they would need the SVN version
[09:51] <bruenig> it will work with youtube and google video because they are both flash 7 compatible
[09:51] <Sepero> zachinglis: There are good and bad people in every community. Ubuntu and Linux communities are no exception. We don't get paid here.
[09:52] <zachinglis> The ISPs here are awfull, this is a developing country. it drops, it flatlines, it does a variety of different things. It's 56k max. Anyway, I'm tired of this so this is the last i'll say on the matter. Volunteers: Do people goto Africa, help starving kids out, then slap them around the face? I was grateful for all your help but I did not get those lines, literally. I help out on #rubyonrails for MOST of the day. I am not a help va
[09:52] <wols> !OT | zachinglis
[09:52] <ubotu> zachinglis: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:52] <xlp> hey, i got a friend who is installing ubuntu, where can he get wireless drivers for his usb card?
[09:52] <bruenig> xlp, what is the card
[09:52] <wols> xlp: depends on the card (or rather the chip inside)
[09:52] <ignignokt00> how can i format a floppy for msdos?
[09:52] <xlp> the live cd didnt see it, netgear usb wg111
[09:53] <wols> ignignokt00: mfks.fat or such
[09:53] <magnetron> !hardware | xlp
[09:53] <ubotu> xlp: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:53] <bruenig> zachinglis, analogy doesn't fit
[09:53] <ignignokt00> thanks
[09:54] <bruenig> !wifi | xlp
[09:54] <ubotu> xlp: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:54] <zachinglis> It fits perfectly. I asked for help, I responded nicely, trying to work out the problem.  You might get shitty answers one hour, and great answers the next.
[09:54] <ignignokt00> i formatted it as vfat, is that not right?
[09:54] <zachinglis> And then, since I complained, I keep getting told off for suggesting that I was treated unfairly.
[09:54] <zachinglis> I don't see why this community has to be a rude one?
[09:55] <HowardTheCoward> zachinglis: because it is a big one
[09:55] <ignignokt00> again, it's not a rude community, but you may think 2 people in here are rude
[09:55] <wols> !ot | zachinglis
[09:55] <ubotu> zachinglis: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:55] <defrysk> zachinglis, please leave and see a therapist
[09:55] <xlp> i just installed ubuntu 7.04, do i have feisty and what is feisty?
[09:55] <bruenig> zachinglis, the africa analogy doesn't fit. If you go to africa, you have by traveling there already committed to helping. By sitting in this channel there is no commitment to help. And so if someone is complaining or crying, it is not like helping and then slapping in the face, it is just not helping
[09:55] <leagris> ignignokt00, vfat or msdos, quite same for e floppy. Vfat refer to FAT32 and long names support both needed on large devices
[09:55] <ignignokt00> right
[09:55] <ignignokt00> mkfs.msdos gives me back "failed whilst writing FAT"
[09:56] <wols> xlp: yes you do. feisty is the "name", codename actually of this version
[09:56] <zachinglis> bruenig: It is an unwritten rule, that the IRC channels are generally for giving help and receiving help when you need it. especially the people whi SIT in the channel. I keep getting told that this is not an off-topic channel.
[09:56] <leagris> ignignokt00, it may be feseable in gnome. Right click on the disk icon ore some graphical tool
[09:56] <Sepero> xlp: Yes, feisty is version 7.04
[09:56] <Sepero> xlp: Dapper is version 6.06
[09:56] <bruenig> !manners | zachinglis I already fired this one off I believe
[09:56] <ubotu> zachinglis I already fired this one off I believe: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:56] <wols> xlp: gives the version a more "human" face. kinda like windows XP isn't called 5.1 but "XP"
[09:56] <Sepero> xlp: Gutsy is going to be 7.10
[09:56] <illusin1> How can I make the ubuntu update manager just download/install updates automatically instead of prompting me?
[09:56] <ignignokt00> leagris: what may be feasible? i just want to be able to write a freedos boot floppy that works, so will vfat/fat32 work for that?
[09:56] <zachinglis> I don't believe I am behaving badly right now? How am I? I suggested the value of being rude, but that's about it?
[09:56] <bruenig> illusin1, write a cronjob
[09:57] <Flannel> wols: actually no, 7.04 is the official name once it's released.  Feisty was a codename during development, not a nickname.
[09:57] <wols> zachinglis: you are since you are OT
[09:57] <ignignokt00> azchinglis: OT OT OT
[09:57] <HowardTheCoward> ignignokt00: the filesystem on floppies is fat12 iirc
[09:57] <alesan> hi do you have an idea what is the correct procedure to transfer a thunderbird account to a new computer?
[09:57] <illusin1> bruenig: how might this cron job work?
[09:57] <tbtroja> zachinglis, you're off-topic and being rather annoying.
[09:57] <alesan> I saved the .thunderbird directory, now what?
[09:57] <Flannel> alesan: export it, then import.
[09:57] <xlp> so the database says it works with my friends usb wifi card but doesnt support wep
[09:57] <xlp> so, he is SOL?
[09:57] <Sepero> zachinglis: Please repeat your problem.
[09:57] <bruenig> illusin1, I believe if you did something like this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade it would allow for an unattended upgrade
[09:57] <ignignokt00> howardthecoward: so what do you recommend i do to format a floppy for msdos?
[09:57] <defrysk> Sepero, zachinglis IS the problem ;p
[09:58] <bruenig> illusin1, so you write a cronjob to run that once a day or so and you are good to go
[09:58] <zachinglis> defrysk: Mature ;)
[09:58] <leagris> ignignokt00, I used freedos ready made boot floppy images, mounted them as loop and added some bios flash tools i needed, then unmounted the loop device then dumped it to a floppy using dd
[09:58] <illusin1> bruenig: brilliant, thanks :D
[09:58] <wols> Sepero: he's been helped a long time ago. but he'd rather whine about his treatment. please don't feed him
[09:58] <wols> !ops | can you tell zachinglis to go to #ubuntu-ofttopic or shut up please?
[09:58] <ubotu> can you tell zachinglis to go to #ubuntu-ofttopic or shut up please?: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[09:58] <ignignokt00> leagris: that's exactly what i want, if you could just clarify the dumping to a floppy using dd
[09:58] <Myrtti> wha
[09:59] <elkbuntu> zachinglis, please behave.
[09:59] <T-Connect> ubotu is a person?
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a person? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <leagris> ignignokt00, dd if=floppyimagefile.img of=/dev/fd0 is for dumping the image file to the floppy
[09:59] <wols> T-Connect: it's a help bot
[09:59] <T-Connect> Ok
[09:59] <wols> ignignokt00: and that dumping already formats it
[09:59] <amanda99999999> joint #polska
[09:59] <amanda99999999> join #polska
[09:59] <zachinglis> Ok, I'm gonna leave as over-talking the situation apparently won't help. But a tip for you guys. In the IRC channels I'm in, we're generally not rude shits for asking for help on a help channel. It makes the community nicer, the developers want to help more.  Really, I can't see the issue about complaining somoene was a dick to me. but whatever.
[09:59] <Sepero> ubotu: Did you program your bot?
[09:59] <leagris> ignignokt00, don't forget to unmount the loop device if you mounted the miage for modifications
[10:00] <druk> Hola, haber tengo un problema con mi impresora que va por red local lexmark x1500 que usa el driver en windows de la x1100 pero es que ese driver no esta disponible que puedo hacer???
[10:00] <T-Connect> What happen? The screen blink.
[10:00] <Flannel> !es | druk
[10:00] <ubotu> druk: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:00] <wols> Sepero: ubotu's "father" is either dpkg or it's a customized blootbot
[10:00] <ignignokt00> leagris: don't i need to have this formatted correctly before i write the freedos image to it?
[10:01] <Sepero> ubotu: I think there is a bug in your code. Sometimes it doesn't post anything when given a direct command.
[10:01] <leagris> ignignokt00, the image is a block copy. So no need to format a filesystem because the filesystem is already within the image
[10:01] <wols> Sepero: dpkg being the bot of that name in #debian
[10:01] <ignignokt00> leagris: ah.  thanks
[10:01] <Sepero> wols: gotcha
[10:02] <Noor> nas
[10:02] <shiester_miester> Sepero, ubotu is a BOT, not a person, you cant talk to him, at all, ever
[10:02] <T-Connect> XD
[10:02] <shiester_miester> there is nobody reading things on his end
[10:02] <bruno_> Riddell: ping
[10:02] <Sepero> ?
[10:03] <xlp> !wine
[10:03] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:03] <shiester_miester> giving advice to ubotu is pointless, its like talking to a car and pointing out that its engine isnt working
[10:03] <bruenig> shiester_miester, when he is talking to the bot and referring to his code, I think he knows it is a bot
[10:03] <T-Connect> Bot that does nothing but list or ban.
[10:03] <metbsd> what's best file system for usb HD?
[10:03] <leagris> ignignokt00, if you have memories of the old times where format meant low level formatting, delimiting blocs, sectors and cylinders on a floppy. Nowadays, it is all handled by the floppy device itsef. Each time you write some track or block to disk it perform a low level format automatically.
[10:03] <metbsd> anhyone knwo?
[10:03] <shiester_miester> T-Connect, it also gives helpful advice
[10:03] <bruenig> metbsd, fat32
[10:03] <Sepero> shiester_miester: This line didn't look very bot-ish: ubotu can you tell zachinglis to go to #ubuntu-ofttopic or shut up please?
[10:03] <T-Connect> Yea that too.
[10:03] <metbsd> bruenig, does it allow 5G file?
[10:04] <leagris> ignignokt00, so now, formatting mostly mean, building the filesystem structure.
[10:04] <mat1980> metbsd, it depends on your needs
[10:04] <bruenig> metbsd, don't think so, if you want a dedicated usb drive that just runs linux, then ext3
[10:04] <ignignokt00> leagris: i don't have memories of the old days, haha, i just frankly never need to use floppies so i've no idea how to work with them
[10:04] <T-Connect> What is swap?
[10:04] <bruenig> metbsd, but if you want to be able to plug it into windows machines, fat32
[10:04] <Flannel> !swap | T-Connect
[10:04] <ubotu> T-Connect: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[10:04] <metbsd> bruenig, but .. i have windows and bsd system that needs to access this usb
[10:05] <wols> Sepero: I said !ops | <text>
[10:05] <T-Connect> Ok I see. Thanks.
[10:05] <shiester_miester> metbsd, then use fat32
[10:05] <niuq> hi i just installed netbeans.5.5 with sudo apt-get install netbeans-5_5-linux.bin
[10:05] <T-Connect> It would be nice to have XP swap.
[10:05] <bruenig> metbsd, fat32 then, either that or install drivers so that windows can see it, or install ntfs-3g so your *nix machines can
[10:05] <T-Connect> XD
[10:05] <shiester_miester> T-Connect, XP does have swap
[10:05] <Sepero> wols: Gotcha
[10:05] <niuq> but at the end says that i had to install netbean's ide
[10:05] <leagris> ignignokt00, bewae with the DOS flash tools. Sometimes they can mangle make your bios invalid. I had to order a new chip online for may SN25P Shuttle
[10:05] <bruenig> I don't know if bsd works with ntfs-3g
[10:05] <Hobbsee> wols: how about you be nice to people?
[10:05] <shiester_miester> T-Connect, pretty much every OS that is usable has to have swap or it won't work properly
[10:05] <niuq> i tried, but i cant, this appears
[10:05] <mkuzu> hello
[10:05] <T-Connect> Ok
[10:06] <niuq>  No Java Development Kit(JDK) was found on this system.
[10:06] <mkuzu> can you advice me a channel for pppoe problems on ubuntu
[10:06] <tbtroja> niuq, so install a JDK?
[10:06] <niuq> tbtroja: already did
[10:06] <shiester_miester> T-Connect, you can configure the amount of swap space in windows in the "my computer" settings somewhere, i think
[10:07] <metbsd> but i have file size over 5G, can i still use fat32?
[10:07] <shiester_miester> metbsd, nope
[10:07] <wols> Hobbsee: you can do the same what was done with zachinglis or whatever you want. as you know I am not here for getting help. also I didn't call him a dick ro similar
[10:07] <mariarosasfm> sheila
[10:07] <mat1980> T-Connect: XP already swap, but keeps it swap in a file, not in a partition
[10:07] <shiester_miester> metbsd, use an NTFS partition, both windows and linux can read/write to those
[10:07] <metbsd> but i have bsd and linux system to write to hd, can i still use ntfs?
[10:07] <metbsd> ext3?
[10:07] <bruenig> shiester_miester, ntfs cannot be natively written by linux
[10:07] <metbsd> can windows access ext3?
[10:07] <wols> mat1980: linux can do that too
[10:07] <tbtroja> niuq, is netbeans multiverse/restricted?
[10:07] <mariarosasfm> ola
[10:07] <shiester_miester> bruenig, i didnt say natively ;)
[10:08] <bruenig> metbsd, you need to install drivers for windows to access ext3
[10:08] <niuq> tbtroja: not sure what it means that
[10:08] <wols> metbsd: yes. but it's OT
[10:08] <bruenig> shiester_miester, well both windows and linux can rw ext3
[10:08] <metbsd> OT?
[10:08] <shiester_miester> really? i didnt know that
[10:08] <tbtroja> niuq, what sources do you have enabled?
[10:08] <shiester_miester> well...the more you know
[10:08] <Hobbsee> wols: that's great, but try helping without a RTFM, etc, attitude.
[10:08] <mat1980> wols: I know.
[10:08] <leagris> shiester_miester, there are cases you can work without swap at oll. And its ok in Linux and the Microsoft os as well. Either you have enough RAM. I barely never use swap with 2GB RAM for a normal desktop use. Embeded systems based on Linux hav no swap at all. But, with no swap, as soon as you get out of RAM space, It may crash.
[10:08] <bruenig> I didn't say natively ;)
[10:08] <MacDrunk> hello all
[10:08] <bruenig> look how clever I am
[10:08] <MacDrunk> any one here uses nextel ???
[10:08] <MacDrunk> need some info
[10:08] <niuq> tbtroja: do you mean what i've installed ?
[10:08] <metbsd> can ext3 hold 5G file?
[10:08] <xlp> so is cedega/transgaming better than wine?
[10:08] <shiester_miester> leagris, i was referring to general usability of an OS by average people around the world ;) try doing that without swap
[10:08] <bruenig> metbsd, yes
[10:08] <xlp> for games that is
[10:09] <bruenig> xlp, yes
[10:09] <insmod> metbsd>yes
[10:09] <wols> metbsd: yes. en.wikipedia.org and search for ext3. it shows you various limits
[10:09] <metbsd> can winxp rw ext3?
[10:09] <shiester_miester> leagris, obviously its physically possible, but impractical for general use
[10:09] <wols> metbsd: you are reapeating yourself and you are OT
[10:09] <shiester_miester> metbsd, apparently yes
[10:09] <bruenig> metbsd, you have to install fs-driver.org for windows to rw ext3
[10:09] <metbsd> i've no access to wthat page
[10:09] <Myrtti> metbsd: yes, but with some limitations
[10:09] <metbsd> ok
[10:09] <insmod> metbsd>of course why would it not
[10:09] <tulga> howto install windows fonts?
[10:09] <bruenig> tulga, msttcorefonts
[10:10] <tulga> thanks
[10:10] <mat1980> !fonts
[10:10] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[10:10] <wols> tulga: install msttcorefonts
[10:10] <shiester_miester> wols, ease up a little on the OT, im not saying its ok to flood the channel with random crap but give people a bit of room to discuss things relevant to their problem
[10:10] <metbsd> can bsd system rw ext3?
[10:10] <shiester_miester> metbsd, yes
[10:10] <wols> shiester_miester: he was answered that question already. no need to repeat it
[10:10] <tbtroja> niuq, I'm pretty sure that netbeans is proprietary software, I can't help you out, but maybe someone else can
[10:10] <leagris> shiester_miester, it's true. In that concern, Linux has a more efficient approch in having swap space on a block device partition instead of on a file.   Just install the package.
[10:12] <stefg> xlp: probably not. you need a bootloader to be able to switch between Os's
[10:12] <shiester_miester> nazis arent american either...
[10:12] <tulga> bruenig: am I must restart after install font?
[10:13] <mat1980> niuq: what's the problem? Have you uninstalled netbeans?
[10:13] <niuq> Flannel: i tried netbeans5.5    but this appeared at the end
[10:13] <leagris> metbsd, ther is a est2 filesystem service for windows. Search the web. It's free. This service maykes you able to read write to ext2/ext3 partitions. But as it is very different os and security approch. Writing files from windows it will not be aware of users from Linux. So files will be written as root or predefined UID. Same problem in writing files from Linux to an NTFS partition.
[10:13] <shiester_miester> thx
[10:13] <niuq> matl1980: i could not
[10:13] <Hobbsee> is there anyone else who does not wish to behave, and stay on topic, and not act as an op?
[10:13] <bruenig> tulga, no
[10:13] <T-Connect> Reboot
[10:13] <Hobbsee> when they are not one?
[10:13] <Flannel> tulga: nothing in linux requires a restart except kernel upgrades.  And even that can happen at your leisure.
[10:13] <mat1980> niuq: why?
[10:13] <insmod> :)
[10:13] <tulga> corefonts installed well, but cannot see fonts
[10:13] <niuq> matl1980: now i cant make it work, im trying to install it but there are problems
[10:13] <tulga> in fonts box
[10:14] <yousefm87> Can someone help me? my sound isn't working, here is my alsa-info.sh script info
[10:14] <yousefm87> http://pastebin.ca/595002
[10:14] <leagris> tulga, sudo fc-cache rebuild may help
[10:14] <niuq> matl1980: well ubuntu thinks it is not install it.. or something like it
[10:14] <stefg> tulga: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[10:14] <insmod> Hobbsee: f u
[10:14] <tulga> thanks
[10:15] <shiester_miester> insmod, u probably want to not speak to an OP like that
[10:15] <niuq> !pastebin
[10:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:15] <krinns> hi all
[10:15] <shiester_miester> lmao
[10:15] <krinns> i have install 3ware raid with 2 sata disks
[10:15] <Hobbsee> seriously, what are people *on* tonight?
[10:15] <shiester_miester> oh well, at least i have the common sense to take the hunt
[10:15] <mat1980> niuq: obviously, as you installed it directly with the netbeans installer. have you tried the uninstaller of netbeans as I suggested?
[10:15] <shiester_miester> *hint
[10:15] <niuq> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27731/
[10:15] <krinns> n installed ubuntu
[10:15] <krinns> all good
[10:15] <shiester_miester> Hobbsee, im not sure
[10:15] <yousefm87> http://pastebin.ca/595002
[10:15] <krinns> but suddenly my pc gets restart
[10:15] <Hobbsee> shiester_miester: some form of strong crack, i think
[10:15] <Flannel> Hobbsee: I think it's the heat.
[10:16] <shiester_miester> but they seem to be generally angry for some reason
[10:16] <yousefm87> can anyone help me?
[10:16] <krinns> now my raid configuratio shows me one disk degraded i rebuid raid n start ubuntu
[10:16] <shiester_miester> yousefm87, maybe
[10:16] <Flannel> niuq: oh, how... odd.
[10:16] <tulga> someone here use Asus laptop?
[10:16] <Hobbsee> shiester_miester: woulda thought it was kind of obvious not to pick a fight with an op, to say the least...
[10:16] <krinns> afeter 1 hr i reboot my machine again it says degraded raid
[10:16] <krinns> why
[10:16] <krinns> any idea
[10:16] <shiester_miester> Hobbsee, you would be surprised what some people think of as 'obvious'
[10:16] <Hobbsee> shiester_miester: seeing as the op tends to hold everyone's access to the channel in their hands :P
[10:16] <Hobbsee> true that
[10:16] <niuq> mat1980: not sure.... sorry i just thought i could reinstall it without problems, but now i dont know what is happening
[10:17] <tulga> I cannot control Asus A6Va CPU. please suggest me any software?
[10:17] <shiester_miester> was there any solution to the pppoe problem posed earlier?  id really like to use my adsl modem through usb with ppoe...
[10:17] <stefg> krinns: hardware trouble?
[10:17] <Seeker`> hmm. My volume level keeps on fluctuating - any suggestions?
[10:17] <krinns> no
[10:17] <mat1980> niuq: well... give me the output of locate _uninstall
[10:17] <niuq> Flannel: then i tried to install that package and when i run it appears JDK IS NOT FOUND
[10:17] <krinns> it works perfect
[10:17] <krinns> i wont reinstall
[10:18] <shiester_miester> at the moment i just have to plug it in to the ethernet port, but I'd rather use that port for a LAN
[10:18] <niuq> Flannel: then i install jdk, and try again and the same
[10:18] <niuq> mat1980: ok ok
[10:18] <shiester_miester> if my calculations are correct, getting a pppoe driver to work will enable me to use it through a usb port
[10:18] <niuq> mat1980: i put that in terminal? _uninstall netbeans5.5
[10:18] <niuq> mat1980: well i have no idea
[10:18] <shiester_miester> but it seems that such a feat has never been accomplished in the history of the universe
[10:19] <mat1980> niuq: sorry, typed enter too quickly. No, type in a terminal "locate uninstaller" and give me the output
[10:19] <shiester_miester> niuq, you could always try a different IDE...there are plenty of alternatives to netbeans
[10:19] <shiester_miester> although im aware that this is both OT and not helping your problem, so i won't comment further
[10:19] <yousefm87> Can someone help me? My sound isn't working although it can recognize my card, my alsa-info is on http://pastebin.ca/595002
[10:20] <shiester_miester> yousefm87, did you ask for help in #alsa
[10:20] <niuq> shiester_miester: yeah i know there is eclipse, but im used to netbeans
[10:20] <yousefm87> yeah noone responds to me
[10:20] <shiester_miester> yousefm87, wait until someone responds, try again tomorrow maybe
[10:20] <niuq> mat1980: ok
[10:20] <stefg> !intelhda | yousefm87
[10:20] <ubotu> yousefm87: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[10:20] <knotgifted> is there a way to have terminal (or tilda) automatically add the '&' after programs?
[10:21] <shiester_miester> knotgifted, there is but you won't want to do it
[10:21] <knotgifted> i.e. firefox & or abiword <file here> &
[10:21] <knotgifted> oh
[10:21] <knotgifted> i guess i'll take your word for it.
[10:21] <shiester_miester> what you meant is "is there an EASY way ..."
[10:21] <niuq> mat1980: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27733/
[10:21] <knotgifted> oh
[10:21] <knotgifted> lol
[10:21] <ignignokt00> leagris: can you walk me through mounting the freedos image as a loop, adding files, and unmounting?
[10:21] <stefg> knotgifted: that would be quite stupid. if you look for a way to detach the terminal read !screen
[10:21] <shiester_miester> and there is not that I'm aware of
[10:22] <Flannel> knotgifted: well, it means you'll never really be able to use a terminal again.
[10:22] <knotgifted> thanks for the advice.
[10:22] <shiester_miester> not necessarily, he could write an app that parses terminal in/output and automatically adds the & in the right spot :P
[10:22] <MacDrunk> hello
[10:22] <alesan> what is the latest version of thunderbird in the repositories?
[10:22] <knotgifted> stfg, flannel, and shiester_miester.
[10:22] <MacDrunk> no help
[10:22] <shiester_miester> or he could re-write the code for the terminal himself
[10:23] <alesan> I just installed it but I still have v1.5
[10:23] <shiester_miester> stfg?  i havent heard that before
[10:23] <knotgifted> or i could not.
[10:23] <stefg> !screen
[10:23] <shiester_miester> did you mean to type "stfu"?
[10:23] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[10:23] <knotgifted> *stefg
[10:23] <mat1980> niuq: ok, then just type the command /home/zero/Programs/netbeans-5.5/_uninst/uninstaller in the terminal, and the uninstaller should start
[10:23] <knotgifted> my apologies
[10:23] <knotgifted> nono
[10:23] <Flannel> knotgifted: if you want to do it after the fact, ctrl-Z, and then use 'bg %' (where % is the job number) to send it to the background
[10:23] <shiester_miester> ah
[10:23] <tbtroja> alesan: sudo apt-cache show mozilla-thunderbird
[10:23] <Sepero> !stfu
[10:23] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[10:23] <ignignokt00> haha
[10:23] <Flannel> alesan: 1.5 is the one in the repositories.  Because 2.0 was released too late for feisty
[10:23] <niuq> mat1980: ok
[10:24] <mardicas> mkay
[10:24] <shiester_miester> Sepero, it would be a good idea to read a word in context with the other words around it
[10:24] <ignignokt00> how do i mount/unmount a floppy image file in a loop?
[10:24] <alesan> Flannel, ok but I thought repositories could be updated then
[10:24] <knotgifted> Flannel: that helps plenty. i'll be making use of that :)
[10:24] <niuq> mat1980: this appeared :
[10:24] <niuq>                                          No Java Development Kit(JDK) was found on this system.
[10:24] <symtab> hi
[10:24] <mardicas> install JDK
[10:24] <knotgifted> i think that is all i needed for now. thanks guys/girls.
[10:24] <Sepero> shiester_miester: I wasn't directing that at anyone. I was just curious what ubotu had to say about it. :)
[10:24] <Flannel> knotgifted: 'fg' will bring it back to the foreground, and 'jobs' will display a listing of the jobs on the terminal.
[10:24] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[10:25] <mardicas> Synaptic -> search JDK
[10:25] <symtab> anyone that knows a link where i can read about the next ubuntu release?
[10:25] <stefg> ignignokt00: mount -o loop floopy.img (filetype should be recognized automagically)
[10:25] <sidlet> There is a nvidia GLX update for me, if i download it, will it auto replace what i'm using and when i restart my X server will it be using the new "modules" or will i have to run nvidia-glx-config enable again?
[10:25] <leagris> ignignokt00, ok. sudo mkdir /media/loop; sudo mount /path/freedosimage.img /media/loop -t msdos -o loop
[10:25] <Flannel> !gutsy | symtab
[10:25] <ubotu> symtab: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[10:25] <b3t0> hello
[10:25] <b3t0> i got a problem
[10:25] <niuq> mardicas: i am actually uninstalling netbeans, why should it ask for jdk ?
[10:25] <stefg> ignignokt00: mount -o loop floppy.img /mnt (filetype should be recognized automagically)
[10:25] <mardicas> sidlet: it will work
[10:25] <niuq> mat1980: any idea?
[10:25] <sidlet> mardicas, alll out of the box, right?
[10:25] <b3t0> i just got the ubuntu live cd, the 64-bit i think
[10:25] <mardicas> sidlet: should be
[10:25] <b3t0> and it wont work on my laptop
[10:25] <Flannel> alesan: No, repositories are more or less frozen per each release.  Except for bugfixes/security updates.  Gutsy will have TB2.0
[10:26] <tbtroja> b3t0, is your laptop a 64bit?
[10:26] <mardicas> if i remember correctly then the -config option jsut changes ur xorg.xconf
[10:26] <alesan> Flannel, :(
[10:26] <b3t0> i dont know
[10:26] <mardicas> but the module names are the same after the update
[10:26] <tbtroja> b3t0, what processor does your laptop have?
[10:26] <b3t0> i got vista on it
[10:26] <mardicas> so there shouldn't be a problem
[10:26] <c_> How do you install fonts?
[10:26] <sidlet> thats what i was wanting to know :)
[10:26] <Flannel> alesan: it provides for a better experience ;)  You can backport the one from gutsy if youd like.  There are automated tools to do it too.
[10:26] <Flannel> !prevu | alesan
[10:26] <ubotu> alesan: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[10:26] <sidlet> thanks mardicas
[10:26] <b3t0> its n amd turion64
[10:26] <mat1980> niuq: I guess you should have jdk installed. Let me do a search.
[10:26] <niuq> mat1980: so it is not actually installed?
[10:27] <leagris> ignignokt00, then sudo cp /path/whateverfiles /media/loop  When finished sudo umount /media/loop; sudo dd if=/path/freedosimage.img of=/dev/fd0; sudo sync then you can remove the floppy
[10:27] <niuq> mat1980: i've installed jdk, im pretty sure, im being doing that since netbeans stick asking for it
[10:27] <tbtroja> b3t0, okay, and what happens when you insert the CD and reboot (with the CD still in)?
[10:27] <b3t0> it turns it on
[10:27] <niuq> mat1980: i've installed jdk, im pretty sure, i've*** being doing that since netbeans stick asking for it
[10:28] <b3t0> like i get the ubuntu menu
[10:28] <tbtroja> b3t0, doesn't do anything with the CD, just goes right to Vista?
[10:28] <xlp> i installed wine and installed a windows app but i dont know where it went lol
[10:28] <b3t0> NO IT GOES INTO THE CD
[10:28] <ignignokt00> leagris, i'm getting an i/o error when i try to dd
[10:28] <b3t0> it runs it
[10:28] <tbtroja> b3t0, then you try to boot into Ubuntu (and please don't use all caps, it's annoying)
[10:28] <leagris> ignignokt00, sudo sync is very important because it will flush cached data to the device. Missing it may result in incomplete corrupted data on the floppy
[10:28] <b3t0> but theres this part where it freakin like does something to my screen
[10:28] <tulga> my Asus A6Va's earphone not working. speaker working well. howto solve it?
[10:28] <T-Connect> Ok it look like fstab issue on unmount.
[10:29] <T-Connect> http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3957/screenshotxi2.png
[10:29] <b3t0> it either turns it black, or sand colored pixel by pixel
[10:29] <ignignokt00> well i did sync, but only after trying "dd" once unsuccessfully
[10:29] <ignignokt00> soo i should start over?
[10:29] <tbtroja> b3t0, have you let that sit for a little bit and see if it loads, and have you tried the Check CD for Defects at the Ubuntu Menu when you boot?
[10:29] <b3t0> ya i checked for defects
[10:29] <niuq> mat1980: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27735/, this appeared, at the end of the installation, when i tried      sudo apt-get install netbeans5.5
[10:29] <Chads> Would anyone be willing to PM me and walk me through Ubuntu?
[10:30] <b3t0> well i havent let it sit cuz it freaked me out
[10:30] <mat1980> niuq: I know, it's the reason why I didn't suggest you to install it.
[10:30] <b3t0> i was like wtf, so i should let it do that?
[10:30] <tbtroja> b3t0, I'm guessing no defects were found?
[10:31] <Lowlande1> Are there any quick way to make server kernel preemptive, or must i compile a new kernel?
[10:31] <bottle> i want method for avoid my little brothers to browse sex website?
[10:31] <xlp> anyone know where WINE installs itself?
[10:31] <b3t0> nope it said everything was ok
[10:31] <leagris> ignignokt00, read error may be caused by bad blocks on the floppy
[10:31] <T-Connect> What that ubuntu bugs report channel again?
[10:31] <Chads> How do you get Ndiswrapper off the Ubuntu CD. I've looked in packages. Synaptics. Add/remove and none of them show Ndiswrapper-utils.
[10:31] <leagris> ignignokt00, I suggest you try with another floppy
[10:31] <Flannel> Chads: this is 7.04 or 6.06 or what?
[10:31] <mattycoze> hey can someone help me mount a windows network?
[10:31] <Chads> 7.04 Flannel
[10:31] <Flannel> T-Connect: launchpad.net
[10:32] <ignignokt00> leagris: will do
[10:32] <tbtroja> b3t0, okay, have you tried messing with the settings that you can select before you choose to boot? (Screen resolution, etc.)  If not try the resolution that you use on Vista or maybe lower to be safe and try that.
[10:32] <Flannel> Chads: Unfortunately (for reasons unbeknownst to me), ndiswrapper was taken off the CD for feisty.  You'll have to get a USB drive or something and sneakernet it (you can get it from packages.ubuntu.com)
[10:32] <Chads> I've read the Ubuntu help files etc and it all says ndiswrapper is on the cd but I cant seem to find it.
[10:32] <niuq> mat1980: ohhh ok, the first time i installed it, i did not have any problem, i just followed instructions from netbeans.org and worked fine
[10:32] <Chads> Mind you I havent a clue about linux.
[10:32] <b3t0> ok well ill try l8er on
[10:32] <T-Connect> Huh? launchpad.net?
[10:32] <T-Connect> What that for?
[10:33] <mat1980> niuq: yes. synaptic actually doesn't install netbeans directly, it just download the installer for you and exec it. The result is the same as you download the installer by yourself.
[10:33] <b3t0> so is my laptop compatible with linux
[10:33] <b3t0> the live cd i got?
[10:33] <Chads> Ahhhhhhh that makes sense then.
[10:33] <Chads> Whats this sneakerpet business?
[10:33] <leo|term> how do i check free space on a hdd?
[10:33] <tbtroja> b3t0, alright, let me know how it turns out.  And yes, a 64bit laptop with a 64bit CD should be fine.
[10:33] <Flannel> Chads: try https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/internet/C/connect-to-internet.html
[10:33] <leagris> ignignokt00, you may try dd if=thefile of=/dev/fd0 sync noerror or erasing the floppy first with dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/fd0 sync noerror
[10:33] <mat1980> niuq: well.. I can't understand why it's asking you jdk... did you uninstall jdk for some reason?
[10:33] <b3t0> what if its a32 bit?
[10:33] <b3t0> will it be ok?
[10:34] <ignignokt00> leagris: i'm trying a new floppy, it appears to be working but it's in the process
[10:34] <niuq> mat1980: not really, the problems started when i moved some directories
[10:34] <tbtroja> b3t0, no, but you said it was an AMB Turion64, right?
[10:34] <tbtroja> AMD*
[10:34] <b3t0> ya
[10:34] <tbtroja> b3t0, than you should be fine.
[10:35] <b3t0> let me chek to be sure
[10:35] <niuq> mat1980: suddenly nothing worked, i tried to put the directories as they were, but didnt  work, so i thought i could reinstall it, but it is not working either
[10:35] <mat1980> niuq: uhm... probably there are some enviroment variables misconfigured now
[10:35] <ignignokt00> leagris: seemed that it worked, will now reboot
[10:35] <b3t0> so how can i have dual boot
[10:35] <Flannel> Chads: hmm, well, that seems to indicate that it is infct on the CD.  It gives you instructions on how to install (if you read and follow the windows wireless driver link).  Let me know if it is actually on the CD, once you figure it out.  Mind you, you might not need ndiswrapper at all.
[10:35] <b3t0> vista and linux?
[10:36] <Chads> Flannel thanks for the link but call me stupid and I can be at times but none of these help sites explain things in a "I've never used Linux in my life" kind of a way.
[10:36] <mat1980> niuq: you should know which enviroment variable the uninstaller read to find the jvm
[10:36] <niuq> mat1980: yeah, that's why i thought if could uninstall it, i could just install it again
[10:36] <Chads> I downloaded Ndiswrapper yesterday but I havent a clue how to get it on the PC.
[10:36] <niuq> mat1980: the jvm?, why, the problem is that does not read the jdk
[10:37] <Flannel> Chads: Put it on a USB drive, and then walk it to the linux PC, and plug it in (walking, on sneakers, hence the "sneakernet")
[10:37] <imbecile> hey guys, how do add a gpg key to a repo in "software sources" please and thank you in advance
[10:37] <b3t0> ok its  AMD TURION(TM) 64 MOBILE TECHNOLOGY MK-36
[10:37] <Flannel> !easysource | imbecile
[10:37] <ubotu> imbecile: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:38] <b3t0> does that work with the live cd?
[10:38] <niuq> mat1980: and i dont feel like learning another ide, im used to netbeans, i really like it
[10:38] <tbtroja> b3t0, http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first
[10:38] <Chads> Is that similar to windows. The file seems to be in a tar format.
[10:38] <Flannel> imbecile: at the top of that page (after you create one), there's instructions on what to do.  (and you can use that to get the GPG keys of your local mirrors too)
[10:38] <Chads> I can see the eyes rolling.
[10:38] <tbtroja> b3t0, there might be a better guide then that, but if you want something better, look for yourself :P
[10:39] <kraut> moin
[10:39] <ignignokt00> leagris: thanks so much, my bios is updated :)
[10:39] <niuq> mat1980: should i try removing all package i found?
[10:39] <leagris> ignignokt00, cool
[10:40] <Chads> ok looked up sneakernet on google......now I've the idea.
[10:40] <Chads> once on the USB stick and Ubuntu sees it what do I do with it?
[10:40] <Flannel> Chads: you've got the ndiswrapper deb file for your version of ubuntu, right?  If so, copy it onto your desktop (so you'll have it for later if you need it) and then double click it.
[10:40] <tbtroja> b3t0, I'm off to bed, I hope everything works out.
[10:41] <b3t0> ok thanx
[10:41] <xlp> so i installed warcraft 3 using wine but i cant locate the warcraft3 folder, anyone?
[10:41] <Chads> I take deb is debian? Think so. Got it from the ndiswrapper site. Think its 1.47.
[10:41] <umop> why would my computer not be able to ping google.com? it just says 'ping: unknown host google.com'
[10:41] <imbecile> Flannel,  i know the gpg key and i have the repo added in "software sources" already.. i just need to know how to add the key..
[10:41] <Flannel> Chads: if you don't have it in a deb for your vrsion, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ndiswrapper&searchon=names&subword=1&version=feisty&release=all  click the package you want, then at the bottom of that page, there's a table with arches (386, x64, etc), click the one you want, and you'll get mirrors.
[10:42] <Flannel> imbecile: right, at the top of that page after you've generated, it gives instructions for how to add the GPG key.
[10:42] <Chads> Just one question though looking through some of the help files sometimes it says my wireless lan is supported out of the box the next it says it isnt. It has a realtek 8185 chipset.
[10:42] <niuq> mat1980: any idea?
[10:42] <Flannel> xlp: ~/.wine/drive_c/ or somethign like that
[10:42] <Chads> Your some guy flannel. Cheers mate.  Appreciate the help.
[10:42] <magnetron> link, Chads?
[10:42] <imbecile> Flannel,  the link you gave me doesnt have the repo i am trying to use
[10:43] <umop> why would my computer not be able to ping google.com? it just says 'ping: unknown host google.com'
[10:43] <mat1980> niuq: uhm.. I don't know if it's a good idea. The only thing I can suggest you is to ask on netbeans forum. Your problem is not related to ubuntu. There you will receive more help. Explain that you moved some directory and now it doesn't work. Someone probably will give you the solution.
[10:43] <Flannel> Chads: deb is debian format, yeah.  But debian debs aren't necessarily compatable with ubuntu ones (because of naming/versioning differences with dependencies, mostl)
[10:43] <xlp> Flannel, thats the thing, i dont see the folder anywhere
[10:43] <Flannel> xlp: ctrl-H to show hidden folders.  Everything that starts with a . is 'hidden'
[10:43] <Chads> magnetron is that the link to my card?
[10:44] <xlp> LOL
[10:44] <magnetron> umop: maybe you have no connection to the internet? or the pings is filtered out by i firewall?
[10:44] <xlp> there we go
[10:44] <niuq> mat1980: ok, thank you!
[10:44] <Flannel> imbecile: that's ok.   Bran is digitus.
[10:47] <Chads> brand sorry
[10:47] <agamezg> f df
[10:47] <umop> magnetron, ping: unknown host www.google.com
[10:47] <agamezg> afgga
[10:47] <magnetron> umop: dns problems?
[10:47] <umop> magnetron, must be something broken with dns
[10:47] <NewGuy> Question: Is it better to get 7.04, or the current build for 7.10 of Ubuntu??
[10:47] <umop> ok but how can i find the problem
[10:47] <Flannel> NewGuy: 7.04.  7.10 is alpha still
[10:48] <Chads> Flannel just out of interest why did they remove ndiswrapper from ubuntu?
[10:48] <NewGuy> Flannel: Thanks. I'd heard 7.10's alpha 2 wasn't veyr buggy. When does it release?
[10:48] <Flannel> Chads: I don't know.
[10:48] <mattycoze> got a q, i wanna try and access a windows computer from my ubuntu box; all i get is; mount error 13 = Permission denied
[10:48] <Flannel> NewGuy: 7.10 releases in 10 of 7.  So, october.... mid/late month I believe, 20 something.
[10:48] <gordonjcp> mattycoze: right username and password?
[10:49] <Chads> ARe any of you guys involved in the development of Ubuntu?
[10:49] <mattycoze> gordonjcp i don't know which user name/password and where to put it
[10:50] <gordonjcp> mattycoze: same username and password as you'd use for the windows pc, presumably
[10:50] <Flannel> Chads: I looked in the mailing lists, didn't see any mention of it.  Which is odd by itself.  More odd is that they still seem to think it's in there.
[10:52] <magnetron> Chads: there seem to be a bug in the driver for that card
[10:52] <mattycoze> gordonjcp i've got this; sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/username/ /home/mattycoze/RobsPC/
[10:52] <mattycoze> where do i put the password?
[10:53] <gordonjcp> mattycoze: I don't know
[10:53] <gordonjcp> I don't really use Windows much
[10:53] <gordonjcp> or indeed at all
[10:53] <mattycoze> oh mmm
[10:53] <mattycoze> in an ideal world we all wouldn't be
[10:53] <Chads> ahhh ok magnetron I might have problems then?
[10:54] <OmegaCenti> I want my serial consoles to have green text on black background. How do I go about doing this?
[10:54] <umop> gordonjcp, he is accessing windows from ubuntu, not the other way
[10:54] <gordonjcp> umop: I know
[10:54] <gordonjcp> umop: still doesn't mean I know where to put the password for it
[10:54] <umop> same as linux
[10:55] <gordonjcp> umop: ?
[10:55] <gordonjcp> umop: he's using cifs to connect to a windows pc
[10:55] <mattycoze> true, i can already access my Ubuntu box via XP
[10:55] <mattycoze> and i've turned all firewalls off too
[10:55] <gordonjcp> I haven't got any windows PCs to try it with
[10:56] <Flannel> OmegaCenti: console-tools is probably the easiest route
[10:56] <OmegaCenti> Flannel: just type that in as a command?
[10:56] <umop> mattycoze, sudo mount //<IP_ADDRESS>/linux /media/sharename/ -o username=myusername,password=mypassword,dmask=777,fmask=777
[10:56] <Flannel> OmegaCenti: it's a package.  Probably has a command that's similar, but I don't know for sure.
[10:56] <umop> mattycoze, the first address is what you are mounting, second is where you are mountiing to
[10:57] <OmegaCenti> Flannel: hmmm.
[10:57] <Flannel> OmegaCenti: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=console-tools&version=feisty&arch=i386  seems to be a suite of utilities
[10:57] <mattycoze> okay umop - i'll give that a try mate
[10:58] <umop> mattycoze, it's a little different if you are doing it from /etc/fstab and i can show you that as well if you need it
[11:00] <mattycoze> umop; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27742/
[11:00] <mattycoze> mmm i did something wrong
[11:02] <mattycoze> umop i dunno what the /linux was doing there so i left it
[11:03] <umop> mattycoze, the /linux is the directory on that ip address you want to mount, maybe just leave it off and see what happens
[11:03] <umop> like it could be /music
[11:03] <imbecile> how do i add a gpg key in terminal? here is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27743/  what i am trying to add is repo for screenlets at the very bottom... someone pleeeaaseee give me a straight answer
[11:03] <mattycoze> oh okay lol
[11:03] <niuq> !pastebin
[11:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:04] <mattycoze> umop; same error
[11:04] <imbecile> was that pastebin to me?
[11:04] <Flannel> imbecile: Go to that site, hit "send", hit "create sources.list", then read the 8th line: gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[11:05] <Flannel> imbecile: I already said that, by the way.
[11:07] <umop> mattycoze, are you mounting a directory that is actually shared? (the /whatever needs to be shared by the sindows box)
[11:07] <imbecile> Flannel,  well when i generate a new sources.list what happens to my old repos like trevino and such? i did it a completely different way installing trevino.. seems like your way is alot more difficult and still pretty vague
[11:07] <umop> mattycoze, maybe also create a directory inside /home/Nakarath/ just so we know permissions arn't a problem
[11:08] <temOo> bonjour
[11:08] <Flannel> imbecile: Generating the sources.list is just on the website, it doesn't do anything to the one on your computer.  All I was saying is that the list that is generated gives you the commands to add keys.  Which, I also appended to my comment about how to get there.
[11:08] <Flannel> imbecile: gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[11:09] <mattycoze> umop - shit you're right that's meant to be /home/mattycoze/Nakarath; but i get this now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27745/
[11:09] <OmegaConsole> Alright, so I am still not understanding consolechars. I am trying to read the man, but I can't findout if my console supports green text or not, and I canot find out how to tell how many columns and rows are curently available
[11:09] <mattycoze> sorry for my stupidity
[11:09] <OmegaConsole> I just want a green font :(
[11:10] <Flannel> OmegaCenti: you probably want a vga option on the kernel for that. add `vga=ask` and then after you've figured out what option you want, go back and make that permanant
[11:10] <OmegaConsole> Flannel: add that to menu.lst?
[11:11] <dromer> how do I activate qemu's accelerator? kqemu
[11:11] <Flannel> OmegaConsole: yeah, in the commented kopt line.  But the first time (the ask) you could just edit it at the grub menu as well
[11:12] <umop> mattycoze, not sure, that means it thinks your password is wrong, or the directory you're trying to mount doesn't exist
[11:12] <OmegaConsole> Flannel: hmmm.. looking for kopt line now
[11:12] <OmegaConsole> Flannel: Do you mean the kernal line for the specific one I boot up to?
[11:13] <wietz0r> How do I delete a user ?
[11:13] <wietz0r> deluser just complains "User not logged in currently"
[11:13] <Flannel> OmegaConsole: yeah.  it'll go at the end of that.  And you can use setterm to set the attributes (color) of your terminal as well.
[11:13] <Frogzoo> wietz0r: deluser
[11:14] <OmegaConsole> Flannel: setterm, just a command or another kernal option?
[11:14] <Flannel> OmegaConsole: that's a command
[11:14] <Flannel> OmegaConsole: kopt should be near the top, before the generated kernel lines
[11:14] <wietz0r> Frogzoo: I just said it just complains that the user isn't logged in
[11:15] <OmegaConsole> Flannel: there is only one kopt?
[11:15] <OmegaConsole> Flannel: found it
[11:16] <wietz0r> Frogzoo: Hmm, apparantly --force did the trick
[11:16] <Flannel> OmegaConsole: yeah.  It's commented out (keep it commented out)
[11:16] <OmegaConsole> Flannel: what is the kopt=root=UUID=Lots of weird number ro
[11:17] <geniusvicks> does anyone know how to install pidgin?
[11:17] <ziroday> geniusvicks: theres a .deb at getdeb.com
[11:17] <wietz0r> geniusvicks: apt-get install pidgin ?
[11:17] <Flannel> OmegaConsole: That's the stuff that gets put into your Ubuntu lines.  each time you install a new kernel (upgrade, etc), your sources.list gets regenerated.  the kopt line is used to recreate the lines
[11:17] <OmegaConsole> alrighty then
[11:17] <OmegaConsole> I uncommented and added that
[11:18] <OmegaConsole> I am going to try and reboot
[11:18] <Flannel> OmegaConsole: no.  DONT uncomment it.
[11:18] <geniusvicks> wietz0r no such package
[11:18] <Flannel> !pidgin | geniusvicks
[11:18] <ubotu> geniusvicks: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[11:19] <yangl> hello
[11:22] <Chads> ok back again.Booted up the old Ubuntu machine. Now I have on me laptop the Ndiswrapper packages. Do I need Common, Utils or source?
[11:23] <yohan> i lost my /usr/src/linux when i removed some header package by mistake, how do i get it back?
[11:23] <Jester> Is uTorrent available for linux?
[11:23] <geniusvicks> I downloaded an icon set called "Iris" how do I use it. I went to themes preferences and clicked on icons tab and then install theme and clicked on "index.theme" in that Iris folder. I get an error message saying "not valid file format"
[11:23] <Flannel> OmegaCenti: DONT uncomment it.  (go back and recomment it)
[11:23] <OmegaCenti> lol I can't even tell if I screwed things up or not... I might have chose too many rowsxcolumns
[11:23] <OmegaCenti> Flannel: okay
[11:23] <yohan> i need to patch the kernel as in http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[11:23] <OmegaCenti> Flannel: going back and uncommenting
[11:23] <incorrect> how can i generate an md5 hash from the command line?
[11:24] <Flannel> OmegaCenti: No.  DONT unomment.  re-comment.  Put a # infront of the kopt
[11:24] <RainCT> Hi
[11:24] <RainCT> how can I retrieve the changelog of a package in the repositories on Ubuntu (it has no importance wheter on Synaptic or in the terminal)?
[11:25] <yohan> i lost my /usr/src/linux when i removed some header package by mistake, how do i get it back?
[11:25] <mattycoze> umop how come i can't just type in the address of the other computer and access it like that?
[11:25] <tulga> howto speed up boot and shutdown time? I'm using feisty
[11:25] <OmegaCenti> Flannel: didn't know if that was sensitive information or not, so sent as pm
[11:26] <xenex> Jester, you can use wine with utorrent
[11:26] <Troubleee>
[11:26] <xenex> Jester, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_use_.C2.B5Torrent_under_Wine
[11:27] <Jester> xenex Thanks... or is there a better torrent client to use in ubuntu?
[11:27] <Troubleee>    ?
[11:27] <Troubleee>
[11:27] <Troubleee>
[11:27] <Troubleee> ?
[11:27] <xenex> Jester, you could use azureus but its quite memory intensive
[11:27] <yohan> i lost my /usr/src/linux when i removed some header package by mistake, how do i get it back?
[11:27] <Troubleee> !!
[11:27] <ld> hi, I'm trying to connect to an ftp server with lftp, but I get stuck at "making data connection"... it just gets stuck and doesn't do anything more... any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[11:28] <Troubleee> PEOPLE
[11:28] <ld> (it works with any other ftp client)
[11:28] <xenex> Jester, you could try ktorrent, thats supposed to be a replica of utorrent
[11:28] <Troubleee> i can speak english..cool..where iam
[11:28] <Troubleee>
[11:28] <Troubleee>
[11:29] <Troubleee>
[11:29] <Troubleee>
[11:29] <Jester> wth?
[11:29] <Troubleee> )))))))
[11:29] <praveen_> heh no volume in my laptop speaker after i installed feisty fawn
[11:29] <Troubleee> )
[11:29] <szaemon_> Hello. Is this the right place for a beginner to ask for assistance?
[11:29] <OmegaCenti> !help | Troubleee
[11:29] <ubotu> Troubleee: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:29] <OmegaCenti> !ops | Troubleee
[11:29] <ubotu> Troubleee: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[11:29] <Sepero> Is redhat going to say 'I do' to a microsoft marriage?
[11:30] <Troubleee> im from belarus :)
[11:30] <OmegaCenti> !belarus
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about belarus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <xlp> anyone know how to get 4.1 sound to work in ubuntu? i have a soundblaster audigy
[11:30] <Jester> szaemon If you can get through the hecticness of it, yes it is. :P
[11:30] <Amaranth> Troubleee: Please try to stay on topic
[11:30] <compengi> Troubleee, zaidi v #ubuntu-ru
[11:30] <Amaranth> Sepero: you too
[11:30] <OmegaCenti> Amaranth: hes trying to get help and I can't tell how he is typing.
[11:30] <szaemon_> Thank you Jester
[11:31] <OmegaCenti> #ubuntu-ru
[11:31] <compengi> Troubleee, tam tebe vse poryski obesniat :)
[11:31] <PriceChild> szaemon_, yes just ask your question :)
[11:31] <RainCT> how can I get the changelog of a package in Ubuntu?
[11:31] <mewt> hi, can anyone tell me how to upgrade to pidgin ? as im still on gaim... im on feisty and i have backports in my sources.list
[11:31] <Iwizzard> HI: in Amorak in the "colllection" manager is there a way to play the songs without havint to first drag them/dubble klick them so thay end upp in a playlist.
[11:32] <Chads> Has everyone retired for the day?
[11:32] <RainCT> mewt: there's an unofficial repository that provides it, one moment
[11:32] <PriceChild> mewt, pidgin probably won't be appearing in feisty and so no official support
[11:32] <szaemon_> I'm trying to migrate from Win XP Pro to Ubuntu. Can I/Should I try to run Office 2000 on Ubuntu?
[11:32] <Chads> RainCT: Could you walk me through installing Ndiswrapper?
[11:32] <mewt> shouldnt it be updated throught backports tho ?
[11:32] <PriceChild> szaemon_, No
[11:32] <PriceChild> szaemon_, we have "open office"
[11:33] <Jester> szaemon_ OpenOffice.org 2 would be my suggestion.
[11:33] <Amaranth> mewt: why? is there some major bug in gaim?
[11:33] <TexasTaz> szaemon_: Just use Open Office it will open all your Office docs usually unless you have sophisticated macros in them
[11:33] <RainCT> mewt: there it is   deb http://www.telemail.fi/mlind/ubuntu feisty main    it has Pidigin and Thunderbird 2
[11:33] <Amaranth> RainCT: No.
[11:33] <PriceChild> szaemon_, there's a windows version yuo can install on the desktop cd... put it into your computer while windows is running and you'll get the option to install openoffice in windows so you can try it out
[11:33] <RainCT> Amaranth: ?
[11:33] <mewt> Amaranth, not really, but i have pidgin on my laptop that's running fedora 7 and i like the color scheme
[11:33] <mewt> Amaranth, :p
[11:33] <Amaranth> !worksforme | RainCT
[11:33] <ubotu> RainCT: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:34] <RainCT> Amaranth: Gaim is a RC, Pidgin a stable release lol
[11:34] <szaemon_> Thanks
[11:34] <TexasTaz> szaemon_: Save all your Office Docs an to dvd/cd another system and then go ahead and install ubuntu, I did it about 3 months ago and i am glad I did
[11:34] <Amaranth> RainCT: and that's a 3rd party repo
[11:34] <OmegaCenti> I need some guides on consoles.. I would really like to understand them more, I am having problems setting fonts, columnxrows(don't know what this is formally called), trying to set vga mode in realtime(is this even possible?) without usuing a kernal option, and understanding how everything works in general on console.
[11:35] <Amaranth> RainCT: your probably just ruined any chance mewt had of upgrading to 7.10 when it comes out
[11:35] <RainCT> Amaranth: yes but iirc it's owned by the same one that packaged Pidgin for gutsy
[11:35] <TexasTaz> i am on a Windows machine now that is about to get convereted lol I hate Windows
[11:35] <Jester> I continued to use OpenOffice even in XP after a while... heh.
[11:35] <Amaranth> RainCT: No, that guy doesn't package anything for Ubuntu proper afaik
[11:35] <mewt> Amaranth, why should he have done that ?
[11:35] <mattycoze> do i need to have samba running on windows so i can access it from the Ubuntu box?
[11:36] <Chads> Would somebody be willing to help me get me Ubuntu machine on the internet. Flannel was helping....
[11:36] <TexasTaz> What's up Chads
[11:36] <szaemon_> Ubuntu and Windows in seperate partitions on one system. Can I access my windows files directly through Ubuntu?
[11:36] <mewt> well on a sudo apt-get upgrade, the only 2 packages updates were rythmbox and thunderbird
[11:36] <mewt> :s
[11:36] <Ayabara> I'm trying to build qsvn and get " /usr/local/lib/libsvn_subr-1.so: undefined reference to `apr_uuid_get' ". anyone know what's missing?
[11:36] <Chads> Just installed Ubuntu yesterday Texas....dual boot with Vista.
[11:36] <TexasTaz> szaemon_: Yes you can however they would be in read only format
[11:36] <aLTer> Hey there! Does any body know if Eclipse Europa would be merged in Fiesty repositories?
[11:37] <TexasTaz> So why can't you get on the internet my friend
[11:37] <mewt> gaim was kept back >.<
[11:37] <Jester> Is anyone worried that Ubuntu is becoming too main-stream... or is that a foolish thing to think?
[11:37] <Chads> Texas: Cant find Ndiswrapper on Ubuntu even though it says its on the CD. I beleive I need this for my WLAN card.
[11:37] <szaemon_> Only in FORMAT?? What does that mean?
[11:37] <xipi> hi
[11:37] <aLTer> Jester, it's good thing.
[11:37] <Chads> Texas: Chipset Realtek 8185.
[11:37] <TexasTaz> Chads: Did you add the universe respository in the sources/list
[11:37] <root___> can someone paste me the sudoers file please?
[11:37] <TexasTaz> sources.list
[11:38] <gregors> one question how do I backup all my data on another ubuntu machine over nfs
[11:38] <TexasTaz> Hold on let me check something might take a few chads
[11:38] <Jester> aLTer Maybe it'll lead to more compatibility at least. :)
[11:38] <Chads> Now see your talking posh...lol Take me as a bloke who has just yesterday installed Linux and errrrr thats as far as I know. Ask me about windows and I may just be able to communicate.
[11:38] <dotdashandy> Thank GOD.
[11:38] <dotdashandy> 5.10 is finally installing
[11:39] <gregors> :)
[11:39] <xipi> i got a hd problem and need to burn data to a dvd. it would be best to use a live-cd, which can run completely from ram (1gig). which would you recommend - preferrably using k3b?
[11:39] <TexasTaz> Wow Chads you in England or somewhere other than the US
[11:39] <PriceChild> dotdashandy, 5.10 has reached EOL and is no longer supported afaik...
[11:39] <Chads> yeah pal.
[11:39] <dotdashandy> I know, but it's a start
[11:39] <TexasTaz> Chads: Where?
[11:39] <dotdashandy> I've been trying for 9 hours and finally something is installing
[11:39] <Chads> Well Germany to be honest but from UK.
[11:39] <Chads> From Manchester
[11:39] <PriceChild> dotdashandy, you should dist-upgrade it to dapper asap
[11:40] <dotdashandy> Ubuntu 7, Ubuntu 6, Fedora 7 6 5 and 3
[11:40] <dotdashandy> and this is the only thing.
[11:40] <TexasTaz> Oh my Gawd okay let me see if I still have my Skype working I need to call ya on this and walk you through
[11:40] <root___> can someone paste me the sudoers file?
[11:40] <dotdashandy> PriceChild: Oh trust me I plan on it
[11:40] <TexasTaz> I would get Carples from typing as much as I need to to help you
[11:40] <TexasTaz> lol
[11:40] <Chads> Just trying to get me head round Ubuntu. I beleive once I can get it on the internet I can then find the info by surfing from that machine. At the minute am up and down using the laptop.
[11:40] <kane77> if I removed mysql-server will I have my data back after reinstall??
[11:41] <Chads> True.....but are your hands upto the job...
[11:41] <TexasTaz> Hey Chads goto How to forge they have a good article on using and dling ndiswrapper, make sure you have the actual inf file though
[11:41] <Flannel> Chads: you want the -utils package (but grab them all, just in case)
[11:41] <TexasTaz> oh and the sys file as well
[11:41] <mattycoze> do i need to have samba running on windows so i can access it from the Ubuntu box?????
[11:42] <TexasTaz> Flannel: Really where is that on at? Or what name is it?
[11:42] <TexasTaz> I have always done it by hand lol
[11:42] <Flannel> TexasTaz: what?  in the repository
[11:42] <TexasTaz> Flannel: Got ya okay cool
[11:42] <TexasTaz> There ya go Chads I didn't even know that thanks Flannel
[11:42] <Chads> Flannel: Cheers mate. I'll put them all on me USB stick and then if I place them on the Ubuntu desktop I should just be able to doubleclick them?
[11:43] <TexasTaz> Well it's an apt-get package isn't it Flannel
[11:43] <root___> i have modified the sudoers can someone paste me the default configuration please?
[11:43] <Chads> Is that using the terminal?
[11:44] <TexasTaz> No I think it uses Synaptic or something via the gui Chads
[11:44] <Flannel> TexasTaz: yeah.
[11:44] <Flannel> Chads: you double click the utils one, since that's the one you use. Or, from what I understand.  I've never done it.
[11:44] <Chads> Ok I'll give it a whirl.
[11:45] <Chads> Just dont go too far....
[11:45] <TexasTaz> howtoforge.org hunt for-> The Perfect Desktop Ubuntu 7.0.4 It will guid you through it chads
[11:45] <TexasTaz> guide you through
[11:45] <Flannel> Chads: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[11:45] <TexasTaz> Chads -><EMAIL_ADDRESS>if ya need anything just email me there
[11:45] <Flannel> TexasTaz: Noooooo.  Howtoforge is Horrible horrible horrible.
[11:45] <szaemon_> How should I work with MS Publisher files in Ubuntu and still maintain the same fonts,clip art, and such.
[11:46] <TexasTaz> rofl Flannel only place I know how to get going
[11:46] <Flannel> TexasTaz: help.ubuntu.com
[11:46] <TexasTaz> Use shoot I forgot what it was called Calc in OOo
[11:46] <Flannel> TexasTaz: the community section there for a good deal of stuff, and the non-community stuff has a lot of stuff on getting things up and running as well.
[11:47] <TexasTaz> Okay Flannel I will use that but I like the tutorials they get you started in the right direction
[11:47] <TexasTaz> quick
[11:47] <pmjdebruijn> Hi I just installed Ubuntu (server), and used LILO instead of GRUB, how can I install GRUB, _and_ get the automatically updated grub.conf/menu.lst when updating my kernels
[11:47] <TexasTaz> I have found that getting an answer can take days sometimes weeks
[11:48] <Chads> Flannel: I just find that help.ubuntu assumes you have some knowledge of Linux. For someone like me, although a quick learner its like reading ancient greek.
[11:48] <melchior7> i will trade my soul for one of these: http://www.hermanmiller.com/CDA/SSA/Product/1,1592,a8-c1345-p8,00.html
[11:48] <melchior7> any takers?
[11:49] <Cupps> melchior7 Ooh... me likey.
[11:49] <TexasTaz> Shoot forgot the command for away
[11:49] <O-Sugeti> whats the default configuration for the sudoers file?
[11:49] <O-Sugeti> URGENT MATHER
[11:49] <TexasTaz> lol melchoir, i have one of those or one similar it was 139 US Dollars at Office Depot
[11:49] <Flannel> Chads: That wiki page should lay it out pretty well.  It even covered how to use sneakernet too.
[11:50] <TexasTaz> Thanks Flannel for hellping didn't know some of those resources
[11:51] <Flannel> O-Sugeti: O-Sugeti http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27751/
[11:51] <TexasTaz> My wife hates me when I go on my Buying binges lol'
[11:52] <Bogaurd> I have a headless ubuntu box, with a working ralink wireless card. how can I tell it to associate to a network with WPA?
[11:53] <saviola> hola
[11:53] <xlp> jesus, flash doesnt work on ubuntu 64
[11:53] <OmegaCenti> !curses
[11:53] <Cupps> Has anyone checked out the alhpa 2?
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about curses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <OmegaCenti> !cli
[11:53] <xlp> NO YOUTUBE!
[11:53] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[11:54] <praveen_> hi
[11:54] <Cupps> Evenin'.
[11:54] <magnetron> !flash64 | xlp
[11:54] <ubotu> xlp: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:54] <Flannel> Cupps: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy stuffs
[11:54] <Montier> is that hard to cat /etc/sudoers?
[11:54] <Montier> please
[11:54] <Flannel> Montier: I did aleady.
[11:55] <Montier> i was out
[11:55] <Montier> can u do that again please
[11:55] <praveen_> i have problems with laptop speaker volume itz very very low ...... its normal in other OS
[11:55] <Flannel> Montier: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27751/
[11:55] <Flannel> Montier: now, remember to edit with visudo.
[11:55] <Montier> i'm in text mode
[11:55] <Flannel> Montier: so?
[11:55] <Montier> just paste the User privilege section
[11:55] <Montier> here
[11:55] <Flannel> Montier: wget
[11:56] <Flannel> Montier: root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[11:56] <Montier> thanks
[11:56] <lmc_phx> wow, if you type your password in xchat it comes out all stars! mine: **********
[11:56] <Cupps> Someone's been reading bash lately.
[11:56] <xlp> jesus, all that to watch youtube
[11:56] <Flannel> !ops
[11:56] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[11:57] <gnomefreak> ?
[11:57] <Flannel> lmc_phx
[11:57] <Flannel> gnomefreak, lmc_phx is a troll/whatever
[11:57] <gnomefreak> Flannel: k
[11:57] <xlp> whens 64bit support coming out for flash?
[11:57] <lmc_phx> i was just goofin
[11:57] <pmjdebruijn> xlp, ask Adboe
[11:57] <Cupps> w00t! Done burning... I'm off to install 7.04, wish me luck!
[11:58] <pmjdebruijn> xlp, ask Adobe
[11:58] <babo> Could not find information on interface eth1:avahi in /proc/net/dev   ... anyone have any idea on how to fix this message ?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> xlp: use gnash
[11:58] <gnomefreak> there wont be a 64 flash or a ppc flash as they are not interested in making it
[11:58] <delete> apt-get install openssl ?
[11:58] <delete> what is cmd for instlal openssl
[11:58] <delete> ?
[11:59] <babo> delete: sudo apt-get install openssl ?
[11:59] <babo> sudo apt-cache search openssl
[11:59] <delete> E: Couldn't find package opensll
[11:59] <babo> delete: try the second one then ...
[12:00] <xlp> can i install gnash through add/remove? :D
[12:01] <pmjdebruijn> xlp, only one way to find out
[12:01] <jez> wow, there's a lot of people in here
[12:02] <xlp> guess not
[12:02] <jez> ...Are there a lot of people in here?
[12:03] <Flannel> xlp: yeah.  It's in universe I believe.
[12:03] <jez> that is, is anyone talking?
[12:03] <kane77> my phpmyadmin wont let me in... I use login name root and correct password but I get: "#1045 - Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: YES)" what am I doing wrong??
[12:03] <gnomefreak> xlp: yes you can. what version of ubuntu?
[12:03] <xlp> 64
[12:03] <xlp> err 7.04 64bit
[12:04] <gnomefreak> xlp: ty join #ubuntu-mozillateam please for a moment
[12:04] <Chads> Ok at the Ubuntu PC. I've installed the ndiswrapper packages where do I find them?
[12:05] <Flannel> Chads: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-ccd66d4fcaaab3a6e7a5c47162c1b7c6f52d41e5
[12:05] <Quiz> !packman
[12:05] <lmc_phx1> kane77: go to the phpmyadmin folder and do: sudo chmod 755 *.*
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about packman - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <Chads> Flannel: your some bloke!
[12:05] <Quiz> !linux
[12:05] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[12:06] <kane77> lmc_phx1, no that didn't help...
[12:09] <lmc_phx1> i think i gave you bad info, go to the phpmyadmin parent directory. then issue sudo chmod 755 phpmyadmin
[12:10] <compengi> if i want to unplug ps2 keyboard and plug another one do i need to reboot?
[12:10] <Chads> Flannel: I just did lspci from the terminal and it recognised my card does this mean I should be able to use it?
[12:10] <Flannel> Chads: no idea.  Whatever that page says is the extent of my knowledge.
[12:11] <peanu1> is there any way to access my ntfs drive? i'm running ubuntu (6.06) off a livecd, and i can't get to any of my files.
[12:11] <kevor_> Hi, can see daapdddd
[12:11] <kevor_> +
[12:12] <kevor_> oh, sorry
[12:12] <kevor_> accident
[12:12] <arash> Hi!, I have three hardware "speakers", one is a speaker set and I have two headphones, though only one seems too be active/working? Anyone know how to fix it?
[12:12] <Chads> ok pal..cheers
[12:12] <RainCT> what package is responsible for mounting CD's?
[12:12] <lmc_phx1> any luck with that kane77?
[12:13] <kevor_> cant see daap shares in rhythmbox, iTunes to iTunes works fine, so it is not the network that is giving the problem
[12:15] <DaNbO> k
[12:15] <bearss> @login x
[12:15] <bearss> @l x
[12:15] <ubotu> Invalid arguments for login.
[12:16] <bearss> @l fffffffff
[12:16] <DaNbO> @l k
[12:16] <DaNbO> .l k
 Invalid arguments for login.
[12:16] <Chads> I can't even create a folder in my home folder????
[12:16] <arash> are you spamming?
[12:16] <Dave_K> Hi :)
[12:16] <arash> Chads - how come?
[12:16] <arash> HI Dave_K
[12:17] <OmegaCenti> I don't think my laptop does the whole "system beep" thing.. what gives?
[12:17] <OmegaCenti> !beep
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <ignignokt00> by home folder you do mean /home/chad right
[12:17] <ignignokt00> not /home/
[12:17] <Ivis> killall gnome-panel
[12:18] <Chads> Its just blank. Its not an option thats highlighted.
[12:18] <ignignokt00> what isn't?
[12:18] <Chads> I right click I can see the create folder but it wont let me use it.
[12:18] <ignignokt00> if you go into a terminal and type "mkdir /home/chad/folder" what happens
[12:19] <Chads> I want to create a folder in "home" called drivers
[12:19] <arash> firs tof all, is it in /home/ or /home/<username>/ ?
[12:19] <Chads> home
[12:19] <arash> I don't think your supposed to be touching things in those system directories, not sure though
[12:20] <Chads> well i'm trying to follow the instructions for ndiswrapper
[12:20] <ignignokt00> yeah
[12:20] <sky_walkie> hi people , I've problem with running ubuntu gutsy in Vmware ... it starts to gdm and then only restarts the session ...
[12:20] <ignignokt00> you don't have access to make a folder in /home/
[12:20] <arash> post result for "ls -l /home/"
[12:20] <Chads> it gives you an example of placing the drivers in ~/drivers/drivername.inf
[12:20] <ignignokt00> if you need to make a folder in there, go to terminal and type "sudo mkdir /home/<folder>"
[12:21] <ignignokt00> oh
[12:21] <ignignokt00> ~ means /home/chad
[12:21] <variant> ignignokt00: of course not, you nead to be root
[12:21] <ignignokt00> variant: that's my point?
[12:21] <variant> ignignokt00: ok, sorry
[12:21] <ignignokt00> haha it's cool
[12:21] <variant> anyone know an easy way to remove all restricted-modules type stuff?
[12:21] <variant> i removed it from sources.list
[12:21] <lmc_phx1> what do you guys recommend for an irc client?
[12:22] <mrigns> irssi
[12:22] <arash> lmc_phx1 - I use Chatzilla :)
[12:22] <jokerwitte> installed ubuntu 7.04 a week ago. tried mounting ipod (5th gen) -- but i does not show up. any advice on how to get it to work?
[12:22] <z3r0ph3wl> hej im trying to connect from one ubuntu pc to other using vnc. but then i enter password and i get window of remote machine-its black and nothing changing!why so?
[12:22] <variant> z3r0ph3wl: how did you enable the vncserver on the remote pc?
[12:23] <OmegaCenti> I don't think my laptop does the whole "system beep" thing.. what gives?
[12:23] <arash> is VNC Open Soruce?
[12:23] <variant> jokerwitte: use a program such as gtkpod or amarok
[12:23] <kane77> lmc_phx1, not yet :/ it worked fine before... now it doesnt...
[12:23] <variant> arash: there are open source vnc server/clients and closed source ones
[12:23] <z3r0ph3wl> variant: system>system preferences>remote desktop
[12:23] <arash> OmegaCenti - I rememver somone having the same problem as you before in this channel....
[12:23] <jokerwitte> gtkpod does not recognise it either -- and all help guides seem to start at the point where at a minimum the ipod shows up on the desktop.
[12:23] <TheFallenArchAng> hello
[12:23] <variant> z3r0ph3wl: ok, did you require that the remote user allow the connection?
[12:23] <OmegaCenti> arash: any ideas would be appreciated
[12:24] <variant> jokerwitte: if you still need help later to day i will be back
[12:24] <variant> jokerwitte: but right now i gotta tidy the house
[12:24] <jokerwitte> variant: thanx!
[12:24] <lmc_phx1> kane77 you mean apache / phpmyadmin was working and then one fine day it quit? what changed?
[12:24] <z3r0ph3wl> variant: no
[12:25] <alesan> !skype
[12:25] <TheFallenArchAng> need some help with setting up wifi i have used ndiswrapper madwifi and driverloader ndiswrapper tells me the driver is installed but its invalid madwifi is missing ath_pci and driver loader tells me device is not present
[12:25] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:25] <z3r0ph3wl> variant: could it be that on remote machine screen went off and vnc cant back it?
[12:25] <kane77> lmc_phx1, no I was fiddling with apache (trying to get Ruby on Rails working) and then nothing worked.. so I purged everything (apache and phpmyadmin) and reinstalled... now phpmyadmin displays but won't let me in...
[12:26] <variant> z3r0ph3wl: the remote machine doesn't require a monitor
[12:26] <arash> OmegaCenti - Might be worth taking a peek at System : Preferences : Sound : System Beep
[12:26] <TheFallenArchAng> dmesg tells me  ar5211.sys: export not found: IoOpenDeviceRegistryKey (ntoskrnl.exe)
[12:26] <variant> z3r0ph3wl: as long as the user is logged in
[12:26] <variant> z3r0ph3wl: also, don't use it with beryl or compiz (desktop effects) that is pretty compliated to set up with vnc
[12:26] <lmc_phx1> ok, if you do an ls -al /phpmyadmin who is the owner of the files?
[12:26] <tenzin> hi .. in ubuntu, where are the desktop background pictures like "simple ubuntu" located?
[12:26] <variant> and wont work by default
[12:27] <arash> I have three hardware "speakers", one is a speaker set and I have two headphones, though only one seems too be active/working? Anyone know how to fix it?
[12:27] <variant> tenzin: /usr/share/backgrounds or pixmaps
[12:27] <z3r0ph3wl> variant: yeah on remote machine runing compiz :S
[12:27] <variant> z3r0ph3wl: disable it
[12:27] <tenzin> variant: ok
[12:27] <z3r0ph3wl> variant: thanks! :(
[12:27] <z3r0ph3wl> :)
[12:28] <TheFallenArchAng> varient can you spare the time to help a newbie out
[12:28] <lmc_phx1> kane77, ok, if you do an ls -al /phpmyadmin who is the owner of the files?
[12:28] <terrorpup> anyone know of  a  website that will show where     an IP is in thhhe work that is free and good. Most offff the free ones suck
[12:28] <kane77> lmc_phx1, I changed to www-data (previously was root)
[12:28] <theTrav> ok, I got an iso here, how do I mount it?
[12:28] <arash> !iso |theTrav
[12:28] <ubotu> theTrav: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:29] <theTrav> ta
[12:29] <lmc_phx1> kane77, so world has at least read access right?
[12:29] <kane77> lmc_phx1, I tried asking at #phpmyadmin, but it's pretty dead there...
[12:29] <kane77> lmc_phx1, yep
[12:30] <xeon_> So, why do you think ubuntu has blown up to be as big as it is now? Is it mostly because of how it's so much easier to use or ? Does it make using linux more comfortable? Is the roar mostly newbies or? because it's based off debian so the vibe i get is the user friendlyness that is what makes it so popular
[12:30] <theTrav> hmm
[12:30] <Assassyn> hi
[12:30] <lmc_phx1> kane77, apache2 right? still running under www-data, or possibly under your user?
[12:30] <Assassyn> need some help
[12:30] <kevor_> Anyone know why i cant access the itunes shares whith rhythmbox?
[12:30] <theTrav> do I need to create a new mount point for it?
[12:30] <xeon_> just asking cause i don't realy konw. i don't mind ubuntu.. since i love debian and if its based off debian than great
[12:30] <Flannel> xeon_: #ubuntu-offtopic is the best place to ask that
[12:30] <theTrav> how do I go about that?
[12:30] <arash> assassyn - with what?
[12:30] <xeon_> k
[12:30] <Assassyn> i installed a new package from update and now my linux ubuntu doesn`t boot in graphical mode anymore
[12:30] <kane77> lmc_phx1, yes it's apache2 and yes running under my user
[12:30] <arash> theTrav-  well, you have to mount it just like you mount a drive I think, with a mountpoint
[12:31] <Assassyn> a packed for 3d acclerating mode from ati
[12:31] <theTrav> I haven't mounted drives before
[12:31] <Chads> anyone off any help on this ndiswrapper
[12:31] <ignignokt00> yes trav, sudo mkdir /media/loop
[12:32] <arash> assassyn - tried "sudo apt-get remove <packagename>" ?
[12:32] <ignignokt00> then
[12:32] <theTrav> ignignokt00: does that make a mountpoint called loop?
[12:32] <ignignokt00> !mount | theTrav
[12:32] <ubotu> theTrav: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:32] <lmc_phx1> kane77, sorry for the dumb questions... if you create any ol' php doc in that dir, will apache serve it up for you?
[12:32] <Assassyn> how can i search for the last update package.. and remove it?
[12:32] <ignignokt00> or ignore that
[12:32] <Assassyn> arash i don`t know the package name :((
[12:32] <theTrav> oh
[12:32] <theTrav> partitioning
[12:32] <kane77> lmc_phx1, yes. that works...
[12:32] <wietz0r> How do I add a user to certain groups ?
[12:32] <ignignokt00> no dude, my bad, don't partition
[12:32] <ignignokt00> sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso/file /media/loop
[12:33] <jokerwitte> ubuntu does not automatically find my ipod. any ideas?
[12:33] <doojin> hi
[12:33] <theTrav> so there's already a mount point called /media/loop?
[12:33] <Assassyn> is there any command to list all installed packages by date/last modified...
[12:33] <doojin> I can't write on NTFS partitions whild on linux
[12:33] <theTrav> used for temporary stuff?
[12:33] <doojin> *while
[12:33] <arash> assassyn - antything intersting hjappens with "apt-get -u" ?
[12:33] <wietz0r> doojin: apt-get install ntfs-2g
[12:33] <doojin> Who knows how to handle it?
[12:33] <wietz0r> doojin: apt-get install ntfs-3g
[12:33] <doojin> ?
[12:33] <ignignokt00> theTrav: you have to "sudio mkdir /media/loop", there shouldn't be there one now
[12:33] <wietz0r> 3g not 2g
[12:33] <doojin> What are 2g, 3g?
[12:33] <doojin> ok
[12:33] <theTrav> ok, so a mount point is just a dir?
[12:34] <lmc_phx1> kane77, and the permissions show that you are the owner of the file? if so, try a sudo chown -R youruser /phpmyadmin
[12:34] <theTrav> I could call it whatever I want?
[12:34] <ignignokt00> yeah
[12:34] <ignignokt00> yup
[12:34] <theTrav> ok cool
[12:34] <dxdemetriou> how can I refresh my libraries?
[12:34] <TheFallenArchAng> needin some help with ndiswrapper
[12:34] <arash> theTrav - yep :),, what else could it be? "D:\" ;)?
[12:34] <Assassyn> -u?
[12:34] <doojin> wietz0r : where did you get that info?
[12:34] <OmegaCenti> Anyone know vga tables for linux? I am trying to find a very big vga table as I am using a widescreen resolution.
[12:34] <theTrav> rad, that worked
[12:34] <wietz0r> doojin: google mostly
[12:35] <theTrav> thanks ignignokt00
[12:35] <ReK_> where can i dl the kernel headers for 2.6.20-15.27? packages.ubuntu.com only seems to have -16
[12:35] <doojin> wietz0r : but google mostly displays useless infos
[12:35] <arash> Assassyn - does it return anything of intrest?
[12:35] <wietz0r> doojin: google "ntfs reading writing ubuntu"
[12:35] <Dave_K> Excuse me for that question, but I am new on linux... I'd like to know how to change somethin' about Nautilus. See, when a file or a folder as a long name, the vertical alignement change to match the length of the file/folder. I don't like this. Can comeone explain how to change it ?
[12:35] <doojin> wietz0r : smart
[12:35] <theTrav> actually I'm probably going to have to mess with wine to pretend that it is D:\
[12:35] <wietz0r> doojin: NO, you just gotta learn howto use google
[12:35] <theTrav> but that can come later
[12:35] <Assassyn> nope
[12:35] <doojin> wietz0r : I'm not good at making search words
[12:35] <wietz0r> doojin: practice
[12:36] <ReK_> where can i dl the kernel headers for 2.6.20-15.27? packages.ubuntu.com only seems to have -16
[12:36] <Assassyn> arash
[12:36] <Assassyn> where asre this packages stored?
[12:36] <Assassyn> when they are installed..
[12:36] <ignignokt00> late, but no prob theTrav
[12:36] <lmc_phx1> just for grins, any vb/asp guys in here?
[12:36] <nightrid3r> anyone knows how to change the mac address of a ethernet device?
[12:36] <Assassyn> there must be a place for the package
[12:37] <arash> Assassyn, hmmm, let me see...
[12:37] <doojin> wietz0r : do I need to reboot to see the effect take place?
[12:37] <ignignokt00> no
[12:37] <wietz0r> doojin: I've already forgotten what you are trying to do
[12:37] <ignignokt00> you only need to reboot if you want to start using a kernel update
[12:37] <doojin> wietz0r : I installed ntfs-3g
[12:37] <wietz0r> doojin: oh, you gotta remount the ntfs partition with "mount -t ntfs-3g "
[12:37] <Daviey> nightrid3r: http://whoozoo.co.uk/mac-spoof-linux.htm
[12:37] <AutumnCat> nightrid3r: ifconfig
[12:37] <doojin> thanks
[12:38] <ReK_> where can i dl the kernel headers for 2.6.20-15.27? packages.ubuntu.com only seems to have -16
[12:38] <Zaibot> Hi. I was playing and got some heavy lag so I restarted my computer. Now it won't show my wireless connection in network settings. I found this in my system log: hultiz-desktop kernel: [   322.630146]  eth0: Media Link Off. Do anyone know how to solve this?
[12:38] <wietz0r> Zaibot: eth0 = wired
[12:38] <arash> assassyn - maybe jjust in /etc/
[12:38] <Amaranth> Zaibot: do you have a wireless kill switch?
[12:38] <wietz0r> Assassyn: .debs are saved in /var/cache/
[12:38] <doojin> wietz0r : how do I write on /etc/fstab?
[12:38] <OmegaCenti> Anyone know the VGA mode for 1280x768?
[12:39] <Zaibot> Amaranth; I dont know what that is
[12:39] <arash> doojin - prefarably not manually
[12:39] <Daviey> ReK_: apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.20-15
[12:39] <doojin> arash : ?
[12:39] <wietz0r> doojin: with the sudo command, if you're not sure what you're doing however, don't do it and ask someone who knows
[12:39] <doojin> arash : what do you mean?
[12:39] <Amaranth> Zaibot: the thing you have to push before they'll let you use your computer on an airplane
[12:39] <Assassyn> ok.. brb
[12:39] <doojin> wietz0r : I replaced ntfs with ntfs-3g in /etc/fstab
[12:39] <wietz0r> how can I add a user to certain groups ?
[12:39] <ReK_> Daviey: cant, no net connection on linux. and i dl'd the linux-headers package, i need the full kernel source apparently
[12:39] <Amaranth> Zaibot: it's a hardware button that disables the wifi
[12:40] <ignignokt00> administration>users and groups
[12:40] <cupps> I just installed 7.04, and I'm having trouble getting my wireless card working.
[12:40] <AutumnCat> doojin: it's dangerous to edit fstab
[12:40] <arash> doojin - I'm no expert, but I would guess that you should doc ommands such as "mount" and "umount" from terminal instead of editting fstab manually
[12:40] <doojin> AutumnCat : but if I don't edit fstab, I can't do it automatically
[12:40] <Chads> Anyone willing to work with a total newb to get this ndiswrapper working?
[12:40] <Zaibot> Amaranth no I don't have such a button
[12:40] <ignignokt00> if it's something you're going to use every time you boot, you should add it to fstab
[12:40] <AutumnCat> doojin: so you must be careful
[12:40] <arash> doojin - whats your issue?
[12:40] <wietz0r> AutumnCat: It's not dangerous if you do it for partition that aren't vital for the system
[12:40] <ignignokt00> back it up before you do anything: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak
[12:40] <doojin> AutumnCat : I wrote ntfs-3g in /etc/fstab and it still works fine
[12:41] <doojin> but I can't still write
[12:41] <Amaranth> Zaibot: you have to
[12:41] <AutumnCat> doojin: ?
[12:41] <ignignokt00> doojin
[12:41] <AutumnCat> doojin: what do you mean
[12:41] <doojin> hmm
[12:41] <doojin> ok
[12:41] <Zaibot> Amaranth: the wifi card is blinking happily even though ubuntu doesn't seem to find it so it should be on
[12:41] <ignignokt00> copy and paste your /etc/fstab to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:41] <cupps> How can I update the driver for my wireless card in Ubuntu?
[12:41] <Amaranth> Zaibot: what does iwconfig say?
[12:41] <doojin> # /dev/sda1
[12:41] <doojin> UUID=38C87770C8772B70 /media/sda1     ntfs-3g    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=000 0       1
[12:41] <Amaranth> Zaibot: does it see your wifi?
[12:41] <doojin> I did it like this
[12:42] <doojin> from ntfs to ntfs-3g
[12:42] <Zaibot> Amaranth: lo    no wireless extensions; eth0    no wireless extensions
[12:42] <Amaranth> doojin: drop the UUID and put /dev/sda1 in there, ntfs-3g doesn't like to work with UUID
[12:42] <Amaranth> Zaibot: so it's not even seeing eth1
[12:43] <Amaranth> Zaibot: i still say wireless kill switch
[12:43] <doojin> Amaranth : I think it works in terminal but not in notilus
[12:43] <Amaranth> Zaibot: if you think you don't have one you don't know if you hit it
[12:43] <Zaibot> Amaranth: I do not know of this, where would it be located?
[12:43] <ReK_> where can i dl the kernel headers for 2.6.20-15.27? packages.ubuntu.com only seems to have -16
[12:43] <arash> >	I have three hardware "speakers", one is a speaker set and I have two headphones, though only one seems too be active/working? Anyone know how to fix it?
[12:43] <Amaranth> Zaibot: it'd be a Fn combo key or a big button under the screen
[12:43] <Zaibot> Amaranth: i've checked the wifi card quite throughly and I can't find one
[12:43] <tapas> Zaibot: many notebooks have function keys to dim the display, adjust volume etc..
[12:43] <farrioth> I'm a gentoo user who had used dpgk before, and I wish to learn more about Ubuntu.  Where
[12:44] <Amaranth> Zaibot: look for a button that looks like it means wireless
[12:44] <doojin> oops
[12:44] <farrioth> 's a good place to start?
[12:44] <Zaibot> Amaranth so its a key on the keyboard?
[12:44] <doojin> ntfs-3g doesn't activate the cut and paste function in notilus
[12:44] <tapas> Zaibot: and these notebooks have a special key called "Fn" or something used to trigger this extra functionality
[12:44] <Amaranth> Zaibot: it seems to be on most dells so that's certainly possible
[12:44] <doojin> ntfs-3g but activates deletion
[12:44] <Amaranth> Zaibot: probably something like Fn+F4
[12:45] <OmegaCenti> Anyone know the VGA mode for 1280x768? for startup?
[12:45] <arash> Fn+F4 opens calculator for me :)
[12:45] <ReK_> where can i dl the kernel headers for 2.6.20-15.27? packages.ubuntu.com only seems to have -16
[12:45] <tapas> where do i find info on software versins in the next ubuntu release
[12:45] <Zaibot> Amaranth: This is not a notebook, and there is no fn-key
[12:45] <tapas> s/release/version/
[12:45] <Amaranth> Zaibot: oh
[12:45] <ReK_> where can i dl the kernel headers for 2.6.20-15.27? packages.ubuntu.com only seems to have -16
[12:45] <Amaranth> Zaibot: make sure the card is seated firmly in the pci slot
[12:45] <Amaranth> Zaibot: turn the computer off first, of course
[12:46] <Chads> if I have a driver from realtek for my wlan card how do I get into Ubuntu?
[12:46] <tapas> Zaibot: what does lspci say?
[12:46] <Amaranth> Zaibot: or, even better, try moving it to another pci slot
[12:46] <Zaibot> Amaranth: I will try that
[12:46] <dqdev> hello all. Sorry to ask here, but it's quite urgent. A need a library (libg2c.so.0) for 32bit. I have a 64bit machine and this library for the 64bit is installed. But where do I get the one for the 32 bits?
[12:46] <tapas> post it to some pastesite
[12:46] <tapas> Zaibot: also try ifconfig -a
[12:46] <tapas> [maybe it was just down]
[12:47] <arash> ReK_ this is something i found easily with googling, dunno if it is what you want https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/2.6.20-15.27 , personally I hardly know what a kernel is
[12:47] <supremesonic> anyone know how to a tab in xchat show all users online in current channel ?
[12:47] <Zaibot> Amaranth: It finds "lo" and "eth0"
[12:47] <ReK_> how would i go about compiling and installing a new kernal? no custom stuff, just upgrading from 2.6.20-15 to -16
[12:47] <dxdemetriou> what is the command to reload my libraries?
[12:47] <tapas> ReK_: why would you want t o compile it?
[12:47] <doojin> There is a good news for me
[12:48] <ReK_> because i dont ahve -16
[12:48] <tapas> ReK_: justdo apt-get update, apt-get upgrade :)
[12:48] <doojin> After re-login, I can see ntfs-3g work fine with notilus
[12:48] <ReK_> cant
[12:48] <ignignokt00> ReK_: if you want update, use apt
[12:48] <ignignokt00> why not?
[12:48] <ReK_> no net conn on linux partition