[08:30] <bob2> ubuntu: you need to ask a whole question
[08:30] <bob2> on one line
[08:30] <bob2> stating what you want to have happen
[08:30] <ubuntu> i would like to know how to simulate ubuntu in my normal windows xp system
[08:30] <bob2> "simulate ubuntu on my normal system" is not very descriptive
[08:30] <bob2> ubuntu: go get the live CD then and boot into it
[08:30] <ubuntu> emulate
[08:30] <ubuntu> like on a window
[08:30] <sukrit> ubuntu: buy vmware and install ubuntu using it
[08:31] <ubuntu> ...
[08:31] <\dev\goat`work> virtual pc
[08:31] <laserline> Hello everyone
[08:31] <bob2> ubuntu: if you mean "Run Ubuntu inside Windows.", then www.vmware.com and have your credit card ready
[08:31] <ubuntu> virtual pc?
[08:31] <sukrit> hey laserline
[08:31] <ubuntu> o thx
[08:31] <bob2> or Qemu
[08:31] <laserline> i would be glad for some assistence...
[08:31] <Madpilot> jkindy: http://linuxcommand.org/
[08:31] <bob2> but that will require reading documentation, etc
[08:31] <ubuntu> any free stuff?
[08:31] <sukrit> laserline: shoot
[08:31] <bob2> ubuntu: google for qemu then
[08:32] <sukrit> ubuntu: ya there free stuff... knock off windows, install linux. then run windows in ubuntu
[08:32] <paulproteus> laserline: Ask your question.
[08:32] <Madpilot> jkindy: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[08:32] <ubuntu> what is qmu
[08:32] <laserline> I own a Fujitsu Siemens S-4546, Working with Ubuntu 5.04 for 5 months now, I ave ACPI problems...
[08:32] <bob2> ubuntu: no, go use google
[08:32] <esc> ok, I follow the instructions on adding repositories...but I am still having the same problem.
[08:32] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: google is your friend
[08:32] <ubuntu> which program do i need for emulation?
[08:32] <uthini> why is the ubuntu repository so out of date with nvidia drivers?
[08:32] <ubuntu> in that vmware.com
[08:32] <bob2> esc: ignore all documentation aisde from wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:32] <laserline> yesterday i got my battery fixed, and i'm able to suspend and hibernate
[08:32] <bob2> ubuntu: again, use google
[08:32] <sukrit> esc: do u already have java installedo n ur system?
[08:32] <esc> no
[08:33] <ubuntu> excuse me, which software do i need from vmware.com to simulate ubuntu?
[08:33] <bob2> uthini: er, it's not that out of date.  hoary froze in like january, remember
[08:33] <laserline> but when the system comes back from hibernation all is well except esd taking 100% juice and i have to kill it.
[08:33] <bob2> ubuntu: have you actually read their website?
[08:33] <ubuntu> no...
[08:33] <ubuntu> where in the webstie
[08:33] <el_toro> heh
[08:33] <bob2> ubuntu: then do so
[08:33] <ubuntu> website
[08:33] <ubuntu> please
[08:33] <bob2> ubuntu: no, be quiet and read the website
[08:33] <ubuntu> fine
[08:33] <bob2> enjoy
[08:33] <uthini> bob2, unfortunately i don't remember cos i only got ubuntu 3weeks ago
[08:33] <deFrysk> mindless questions
[08:33] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: this is an ubuntu help channel - we can't give help on vmware
[08:33] <paulproteus> lol, ubuntu! :)
[08:33] <bob2> asking us to read a website for you is a bit silly
[08:33] <laserline> when it comes back from sleep (ram suspension) network doesn;t come back.... it says device not found and only reboot fixes it...
[08:33] <esc> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:33] <esc>   azureus: Depends: sun-j2sdk1.5 but it is not installable or
[08:33] <esc>                     java2-runtime but it is not installable
[08:33] <ubuntu> sorry
[08:34] <bob2> the product you'd want is "vmware workstation"
[08:34] <ubuntu> can u give me a link?
[08:34] <bob2> esc: so, stop pasting crap and read
[08:34] <deFrysk> mindless flooding..
[08:34] <uthini> on another note, how can i setup my machine to accept terminal server/remote desktop connections?
[08:34] <bob2> esc: what didn't work on wiki.ubuntu.com/Java?
[08:34] <laserline> anyne could help with the ACPI ?
[08:34] <ubuntu> bob2 are u an ubuntu supporter?
[08:34] <uthini> do i use the remote desktop settings in the admin menu?
[08:34] <Madpilot> deFrysk: just another evening on #ubuntu... ;)
[08:34] <bob2> laserline: report a bug on the linux component
[08:34] <bob2> ubuntu: oh, stop it
[08:34] <_frank> uthini: install ssh server
[08:34] <bob2> you're not going to shame me into thinking you're not lazy
[08:34] <paulproteus> bob2: You're either with Ubuntu or against it!
[08:34] <ubuntu> ...
[08:34] <ubuntu> u are rude
[08:34] <laserline> bob2 - how do i do that ? this is the first bug i encounter...
[08:35] <deFrysk> Madpilot, morning here and coffe hasnt kicked in yet :s
[08:35] <esc> sorry guys.
[08:35] <durt> esc http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[08:35] <paulproteus> bob2: And ubuntu is the *name* of Ubuntu!
[08:35] <esc> ok
[08:35] <adriyel> wtf?
[08:35] <bob2> ubuntu: and you're being ridiculously lazy
[08:35] <esc> I added hoary-extras
[08:35] <ubuntu> o well
[08:35] <ubuntu> lets shake hands
[08:35] <bob2> laserline: bugzilla.ubuntu.com, linux is the component
[08:35] <adriyel> www.google.com
[08:35] <ubuntu> and stop the argue
[08:35] <benplaut> ubotu tell ubuntu about google
[08:35] <adriyel> I assume your keyboard is functional Ubuntu
[08:35] <esc> but when I search for sun-j2re1.5
[08:35] <bob2> ubuntu: stop flooding the channel please, it's highly annoying
[08:35] <esc> nothing comes up
[08:35] <laserline> laserline: ok
[08:35] <Madpilot> deFrysk: 2330 here and I've just opened a beer...
[08:35] <laserline> ok
[08:35] <bob2> esc: so, stop
[08:35] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: please stop - bob2 is always helpful: you haven't done your homework
[08:35] <cihad> hi
[08:35] <adriyel> noise:signal ratio falling....
[08:35] <paulproteus> esc: That's sad.  Did you run aptitude update?
[08:35] <cihad> peoples
[08:35] <deFrysk> Madpilot, lucky you
[08:35] <ompaul> ubuntu, go read uncle google he has many, many good tails to tell if you ask him correctly :)
[08:35] <ubuntu> bye guys
[08:35] <ubuntu> :D
[08:35] <ubuntu> o yea
[08:35] <ubuntu> bob2
[08:35] <adriyel> thats tales :P
[08:36] <ubuntu> i wonder
[08:36] <ubuntu> if there is any free software?
[08:36] <cihad> selam millet
[08:36] <ompaul> adriyel, correct
[08:36] <ubuntu> does bochs work?
[08:36] <cihad> aranzda
[08:36] <uthini> _frank, after that? settings and stuff?
[08:36] <adriyel> *slaps forehead&
[08:36] <paulproteus> ubuntu: Look up qemu; it's better than bochs.
[08:36] <adriyel> :wow
[08:36] <bob2> ubuntu: I already suggested Qemu
[08:36] <Madpilot> esc: j2re is in Hoary Extra repo, se the bottom of the AddingRepositories wiki page for more info...
[08:36] <ubuntu> ok
[08:36] <ubuntu> bye
[08:36] <ompaul> shhhhhh its very quite
[08:36] <thoreauputic> what a relief...
[08:36] <adriyel> g'night everybody
[08:36] <laserline> and what would that do ? will in be fixed next version, or somone will be able to show me how to fix that in current version of hoary?
[08:36] <Madpilot> wow, how without common clue can you be? ;)
[08:36] <_frank> uthini: well once you have the ssh server running. users will be able to login remotely with a ssh client
[08:36] <laserline> .
[08:36] <bob2> laserline: depends on what the problem is
[08:36] <benplaut> ubotu ubotu google is <reply> Someone is trying to let you know that you should always search on www.google.com before asking a question.
[08:36] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, benplaut
[08:36] <esc> yes, I have that added as well
[08:36] <deFrysk> ubuntu can rest now from his hard work
[08:37] <deFrysk> ;p
[08:37] <uthini> _frank, does that include a windows login?
[08:37] <bob2> esc: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[08:37] <Madpilot> !tell benplaut about question
[08:37] <esc> ok
[08:37] <_frank> uthini: you mean login from a windows machine? use putty for windows
[08:37] <paulproteus> esc: Did you run e.g. apt-get update?  Sorry if I missed your answer.
[08:37] <benplaut> Madpilot, that's not in there, either :P
[08:37] <cafuego> bob2: "Filing message in /var/spool/vmail/cafuego.net/me//.Trash/"   - WOO!
[08:37] <esc> paulproteus - yes I did
[08:37] <esc> several times
[08:37] <_frank> uthini: that will give you shell access. It's more complicated for graphical applications
[08:37] <bob2> cafuego: oh, nice
[08:37] <paulproteus> esc: Okay.
[08:37] <benplaut> ubotu google is Someone is trying to let you know that you should always search on www.google.com before asking a question.
[08:37] <ubotu> okay, benplaut
[08:38] <bob2> cafuego: with sieve?
[08:38] <cafuego> bob2: Nop, courier maildropfilter
[08:38] <Madpilot> !tell benplaut about ask
[08:38] <bob2> laserline: no need to /msg me
[08:38] <bob2> laserline: it's red because I started the line with your name, and your client coloured it
[08:38] <pulk> is there any gui interface in ubuntu for editing the order of init scripts at boot?
[08:38] <cafuego> bob2: turned out to be a matter of explicitly telling postfiox to use maildrop as virtual_transport
[08:38] <uthini> _frank, why so complex? anyways
[08:38] <uthini> will sort out l8r
[08:39] <uthini> gotta go to the office and make sure i still ahve a job
[08:39] <cafuego> bob2: If you want the cfg, let me know and I'll mail it through.
[08:39] <esc> ok /etc/apt/sources.list posted into #flood
[08:39] <_frank> uthini: well you need xserver on your windows computer for graphical apps
[08:39] <bob2> cafuego: mmmm, that would be very handy
[08:39] <laserline> cool, so when i write start a line with a name, for example "bob2: blah blah" (w/o the quotes) you see it coloured ?
[08:39] <cafuego> bob2: msg me an addy :-)
[08:40] <bob2> laserline: yes, most clients do that.  it's possible to disable/change the colour/etc, tho, and it all happens on the client end
[08:40] <laserline> bob2: is there any more information i shoud put in the bugzilla ?
[08:40] <IceDC571> whats the offtopic channel?
[08:41] <bob2> esc: apt-cache search j2sdk -> #flood
[08:41] <nalioth> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:41] <bob2> laserline: laptop details, as much output as you can capture, versions, etc
[08:41] <esc> bob2 ok
[08:41] <ompaul> pluk no there isno gui however if you look in the /etc/init.d files and then look in the various rc.d directories S## is for startup order and K## is for shudown order
[08:42] <_frank> pulk there is ubm
[08:42] <ompaul> pluk if you believe that such a tool is required there is nothing to stop you from building one :)
[08:42] <_frank> pulk: ubuntu boot manager
[08:42] <pulk> ok
[08:42] <_frank> !ubm
[08:42] <ubotu> _frank: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:42] <benplaut> !bum
[08:42] <ubotu> it has been said that bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[08:42] <_frank> oops
[08:42] <bob2> esc: apt-cache search j2
[08:42] <lew> I've heard there is a major Ubuntu release every 6 months, but I can't find on the website when the next major release will be. Anyone happen to know?
[08:43] <_frank> lew in october
[08:43] <laserline> bob2: when i run sleep from gnome menu it really runs /etc/acpi/sleep.sh - so if i sudo it from terminal, it'd be good input (or am i wrong?)
[08:43] <TheRaginAsian> there is a roadmap somehwere
[08:43] <lew> _frank, TY
[08:43] <bob2> lew: october...
[08:43] <bob2> lew: hm?
[08:43] <bob2> TheRaginAsian: yes, on the wiki
[08:44] <ompaul> so wheres the repo for bum?
[08:44] <_frank> http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[08:44] <_frank> maybe in backports I don't know
[08:44] <roberts> load ircprimer
[08:45] <benplaut> it's in breezy :)\
[08:45] <nalioth> lew: the ubuntu release version numbers are the year/month of their release
[08:45] <ompaul> so no use to me _yet_ :)
[08:45] <laserline> bob2: does sleep from gnome meny the same thing as sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh
[08:45] <bob2> laserline: afaik, yes
[08:45] <bob2> I always run the script manually, anyway
[08:45] <Nexinarus> oh that makes sense heh
[08:46] <bob2> esc: oh, bah
[08:46] <_frank> ompaul: you can install manuallt
[08:46] <bob2> esc: it's not your fault, the backports people screwed up
[08:46] <esc> bob2 oh?
[08:46] <bob2> esc: wget http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[08:46] <ompaul> _frank, this is true
[08:46] <_frank> backports screwed up where?
[08:46] <bob2> esc: sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[08:46] <bob2> esc: then try installing azeeures again
[08:47] <bob2> _frank: their Packages.gz file is incorrect, it seems
[08:47] <esc> ok im wget that right now
[08:47] <esc> lets see if it works
[08:48] <cafuego> bob2: sent
[08:48] <nobile> hi
[08:48] <bob2> cafuego: dankeshan
[08:49] <laserline> bob2: i only see linux as OS after choosing Ubuntu as product, should i put Linux in the package dialogue ?
[08:49] <nobile> I was wondering how can I download the lastest version of gaim, because it won't dl from synaptic
[08:49] <cafuego> bob2: I haven't written a php front end for it yet (but i do now have a suid wrapper to recursively trash mailboxen via a web page)
[08:49] <nobile> and using the site, I don't know which package I should get
[08:49] <bob2> laserline: hm, no, I think me memory sucks
[08:49] <x3ndou> What is the network in /dev/
[08:49] <bob2> cafuego: hah
[08:49] <benplaut> nobile: look in the forums for how to do it via autopackage
[08:50] <_frank> nobile: there is a newer one in backports I think
[08:50] <bob2> cafuego: I have vague plans for a zope-based thing
[08:50] <bob2> x3ndou: nothing
[08:50] <bob2> interfaces don't have device nodes
[08:50] <laserline> bob2: so.... how to report the bug in the best way ?
[08:50] <Nexinarus> !dvd
[08:50] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[08:50] <x3ndou> well
[08:50] <x3ndou> how is VMware supposed to connect to the ethernet
[08:50] <nalioth> cafuego: squirrelmail beats sneakernet
[08:51] <x3ndou> It defaultly tries to connect to /dev/vmnet0
[08:51] <bob2> x3ndou: do you mean tun?
[08:51] <x3ndou> tun?
[08:51] <bob2> that's created by the vmnet module
[08:51] <x3ndou> I tried that
[08:51] <bob2> it's not a normal network interface
[08:51] <x3ndou> /dev/net/tun
[08:51] <x3ndou> argh
[08:51] <bob2> you don't want tun if you're using vmware
[08:51] <x3ndou> I wam using vmware
[08:51] <bob2> the vmware install worked out of the box for me
[08:51] <x3ndou> XD
[08:51] <dabar> I switch from the f7, to alt+ctrl+f1, and when I go back to f7, it is just a black screen, and I hear  the little ubuntu sound, so I know its wokring in the background. This is a new install of Hoary on an HP computer, all HP hardware/whatever they use,... Does one of you guys have any idea what I can do to fix this?
[08:51] <x3ndou> bvargh
[08:52] <x3ndou> wait
[08:52] <x3ndou> do me a favor
[08:52] <x3ndou> look at what the ethernet is set to
[08:52] <Tribune> i need help
[08:52] <bob2> "what the ethernet is set to"?
[08:52] <cafuego> nalioth: yes it does, with a massive wooly cricket bat
[08:52] <x3ndou> yeh
[08:52] <bob2> I have no idea what that sentence means
[08:52] <x3ndou> what device
[08:52] <x3ndou> is it using
[08:52] <bob2> is what using?
[08:52] <bob2> vmware?
[08:52] <x3ndou> yeah
[08:52] <bob2> it presumably uses /dev/vmnet or whatever
[08:53] <x3ndou> yeah
[08:53] <x3ndou> it's not finding that on my setup
[08:53] <bob2> it had better be, since it tainted my kernel to do so
[08:53] <bob2> so
[08:53] <x3ndou> /dev/vmnet0
[08:53] <bob2> remove it all
[08:53] <Tribune> try to apt-get install for realplayer but i receive this message : E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:53] <x3ndou> and reinstall it?
[08:53] <bob2> run "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[08:53] <HrdwrBoB> Tribune: try to manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:53] <thoreauputic> Tribune: and did you?
[08:53] <x3ndou> I did that
[08:53] <bob2> then download vmware workstation 5.0
[08:53] <bob2> then install it from scratch
[08:53] <Tribune> how to do?
[08:53] <esc> bob2 - thanks for your help. azureus/java are now installed
[08:53] <bob2> esc: cool
[08:54] <x3ndou> so uninstall vmware
[08:54] <x3ndou> and then reinstall it?
[08:54] <thoreauputic> Tribune:  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:54] <dabar> thoreauputic: :)
[08:54] <Tribune> i will try it now
[08:54] <x3ndou> will uninstalling it delete my virtual drives?
[08:54] <x3ndou> Because I want it to
[08:55] <dabar> Tribune: I hope it does not fix it, cause I will have to die if it does.
[08:55] <jkindy> do any of u know of a external HDD that has bios support
[08:55] <bob2> jkindy: that's a bios question, not a hard disk one
[08:55] <x3ndou> yeah
[08:55] <jkindy> oo
[08:55] <x3ndou> my bios supports usb drives
[08:55] <x3ndou> Many don't
[08:56] <thoreauputic> Tribune: and I suggest in future you *not* interrupt installations with apt/synaptic/dpkg
[08:56] <Tribune> ic
[08:57] <DrSpin> ok -- when I logout of my X session, how can I nicely end dbus-daemon-1 and gam_server so that I don't get 10-15 instances running at any one time??
[08:57] <Tribune> i want to install azureus:
[08:57] <dabar> so, noone of you had an issue where switching between consoles, like f1 and going back to f7 there is a black screen instead of X?
[08:57] <Tribune> in my terminal recieved that message
[08:57] <DrSpin> dabar: Are you using Warty??
[08:57] <Tribune> now the message inform differently
[08:57] <dabar> DrSpin: a new hoary install.
[08:57] <Tribune> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:57] <Tribune>   azureus: Depends: sun-j2sdk1.5 but it is not installable or
[08:57] <Tribune>                     java2-runtime but it is not installable
[08:57] <Tribune> E: Broken packages
[08:57] <bob2> dabar: that usually means your hardware or your X driver sucks
[08:57] <DrSpin> dabar: nvidia or ati??
[08:57] <bob2> Tribune: please don't paste things in here
[08:57] <x3ndou> haha
[08:57] <Tribune> ok
[08:57] <x3ndou> someone just had that problem Tribune
[08:57] <Tribune> sorry bob2
[08:58] <thoreauputic> !tell Tribune about java
[08:58] <Tribune> gosh... i need to install lots of mp3 songs
[08:58] <bob2> ubotu: get java on i386 is 'wget http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb', then 'sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb'
[08:58] <ubotu> bob2: okay
[08:58] <bob2> Tribune: do the above
[08:58] <bob2> oh
[08:58] <Tribune> i'm running in kubuntu now... should i change to ubuntu-destop to do that?
[08:58] <cafuego> !get java on i386 =~ s/wget /wget -c /
[08:58] <ubotu> OK, cafuego
[08:59] <dabar> DrSpin: no graphics card, and restarting the server does not help, and   it does start as normal and works as long as I dont change to console...
[08:59] <_frank> Tribune: no just open a konsole
[08:59] <DrSpin> dabar: LOL -- you have to have a graphics card for the display to function
[08:59] <dabar> start as normal=when you boot,..
[09:00] <dabar> DrSpin: and by no graphics card, i mean its an onboard thing.
[09:00] <DrSpin> dabar: ok
[09:00] <x3ndou> Integrated you mean, dabar
[09:00] <dabar> whatever.
[09:00] <dabar> :)
[09:00] <DrSpin> dabar join #flood and past the result of # lspci for me
[09:00] <dabar> im not there.
[09:01] <dabar> DrSpin: you got the part where: it works when I boot, until I switch to console?
[09:01] <DrSpin> dabar: yes
[09:01] <dabar> ok, so I should try getting help when I am at that computer?
[09:01] <dabar> ok.
[09:01] <DrSpin> dabar: in the last release of ubuntu this was a problem -- I'm getting some information to work with so maybe I can help you fix it
[09:02] <DrSpin> xsession :: How can I kill applications when I logout like dbus-daemon-1 and gam_server
[09:02] <DrSpin> ??
[09:03] <dabar> I will try again when I am where this computer is... also, I tried installing colony 3 today, and base install fails...I have so far tried burning the ISO twice, but onto the same RW, and the md5sum for the file is good.
[09:03] <dabar> and I was installing that Hoary today, and I forgot the CD at home:)
[09:04] <dabar> so...good night guys.
[09:04] <x3ndou> nighto.
[09:06] <Tribune> my konsole show nothing happen during wget
[09:07] <Tribune> for java
[09:07] <jkindy> the command to reset the menus?
[09:07] <_frank> you should get a progress bar
[09:07] <Tribune> nope.. i did paste exactly as ubotu url
[09:08] <_frank> Tribune: does it output anything?
[09:09] <Tribune> ok ok
[09:09] <Tribune> now's working
[09:09] <Tribune> lol.. how stupid i am :D
[09:09] <jkindy> tried to download visualboyadvanced from package manager and got 50% done and said couldnt connct to the server? any ideas?
[09:10] <_frank> try again?
[09:10] <Digi> quick question
[09:11] <Digi> when trying to install flash player in terminal I got this error
[09:11] <Digi> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[09:11] <_frank> Digi: do you have multiverse enabled? do you run x86?
[09:11] <Digi> yes, x86 and I'm sorry i don't know what multiverse is
[09:11] <Digi> <-- new to linux
[09:11] <_frank> !repositories
[09:11] <ubotu> repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:12] <_frank> this should help ;-)
[09:12] <_frank> good night
[09:12] <Tripp> Hello, does anyone know how to install pengaol?
[09:15] <Madpilot> has anyone ever set a parallel-port scanner in Ubuntu?
[09:15] <jkindy> i allways wondered thers 470 ppl in here and not even 10% talk
[09:15] <Madpilot> lots of us never, ever logout even when we're not actually here
[09:15] <bluefoxicy> wow
[09:15] <DrSpin> #linux went from a conversation about eating habits to health to masturbation as a form of exercise!! LMFAO :)
[09:16] <bluefoxicy> having synaptic search description and name for nmap returns nothing
[09:16] <bluefoxicy> just name gives nmap
[09:16] <Madpilot> besides, right now it's late at night in the Americas, early morning in Europe, and dinnertime in NZ/Oz. it's usually slow around now
[09:17] <jkindy> its like 3 in ther morning here
[09:18] <Madpilot> yeah, it's 0020 here. "late at night/really  early morning in the Americas", if you want to nitpick!
[09:18] <DrSpin> 0020 here as well
[09:19] <crimsun_> crazy leftcoasters :p
[09:19] <DrSpin> _left_coasters ?!? LOL
[09:19] <punkass> 0020 here to
[09:19] <jkindy> i am on the east coast philly to be presice
[09:19] <Madpilot> crimsun: you'd better believe it. I'm a crazy Canadian, to boot...
[09:19] <DrSpin> how 2 dimensional ;)
[09:19] <adriyel> 0319EST
[09:20] <crimsun_> DrSpin, lends itself nicely to a 2d screen ;)
[09:20] <punkass> Madpilot: and another ;)
[09:20] <gabriel> hi
[09:20] <Mestapheles> and another
[09:20] <thoreauputic> DrSchlauf: the earth is flat! It's obvious! Look out he window! *grin*
[09:20] <bluefoxicy>  nmap pop.gmail.com -p 110
[09:20] <bluefoxicy> PORT    STATE    SERVICE
[09:20] <bluefoxicy> 110/tcp filtered pop3
[09:20] <bluefoxicy> oh wow.
[09:20] <bluefoxicy> gmail filters pop3 but offers pop3 anyway
[09:20] <bluefoxicy> (yes it instructs pop.gmail.com be used, doesn't specify a port)
[09:20] <thoreauputic> oops
[09:20] <DrSpin> crimsun_ lmao indeed :)
[09:20] <gabriel> i need to instal samba on hoary? or is it already installed?
[09:20] <jkindy> does anybody know who don vito is
[09:21] <DukGalNamu> how do i mount a samba file system?
[09:21] <orlok> jkindy: as in the godfather?
[09:21] <Madpilot> so, old parport scanners? anyone? the sane projects claim it's fully supported, but the drivers mentioned don't seem to be in Ubuntu repos...
[09:21] <orlok> don vito corleone?
[09:21] <jkindy> no as in viva la ba
[09:21] <jkindy> bam
[09:21] <DukGalNamu> ?
[09:21] <jkindy> mtv man ...do u live under a rock lol
[09:22] <crimsun_> well, not everyone has/watches tv
[09:22] <thoreauputic> !tell DukGalNamu about samba
[09:22] <jkindy> lol
[09:22] <durt> help! i messed something up: how can i uninstall libc6 and use an older version without having to uninstall everything that depends on it?
[09:23] <jkindy> well if u ever get a chance check out viva la bam on mtv great shom
[09:23] <crimsun_> durt, force a downgrade? That can be messy.
[09:23] <thoreauputic> durt: practically anything and everythig depends on libc6...
[09:23] <gabriel> i get an error installing samba-common because in synaptic i have only 3.0.10 but smb-client needs 3.0.14a?
[09:23] <crimsun_> durt, essentially, you'll have to downgrade its rdepends anyway
[09:24] <durt> crimsun: how can i do it?
[09:24] <jkindy> does anybody use Knoppix?
[09:24] <crimsun_> gabriel, do you have a breezy deb line in there somewhere?
[09:24] <bob2> durt: what did you do to break libc6 to begin with?
[09:24] <bob2> jkindy: #knoppix
[09:24] <Tribune> i did use knoppox last time :D
[09:24] <Tribune> but using live cd
[09:25] <crimsun_> durt, just downgrade libc6 and accept the fact that you'll lose its redepends
[09:25] <gabriel> crisum_: i have hoary. i don't know if i have samba installed by defaut maybe?
[09:25] <crimsun_> durt, otherwise you'll end up with an even more broken system
[09:25] <gabriel> crimsum_: i have hoary. i don't know if i have samba installed by defaut maybe?
[09:25] <durt> i was being stupid and installed the breezy version so i could upgrade wireless tools
[09:25] <Tribune> can ubuntu communicate with pocket pc running mobile 2003?
[09:25] <crimsun_> gabriel, hoary definitely doesn't have 3.0.14a
[09:26] <bob2> gabriel: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[09:26] <crimsun_> durt, then why not just completely dist-upgrade to Breezy?
[09:26] <gabriel> crimsun_, so i can't install samba right?
[09:26] <crimsun_> gabriel, please heed bob2's instructions
[09:27] <gabriel> crimsun_ google for "bob2's"?
[09:27] <bob2> 17:26:20 @         bob2 | gabriel: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[09:28] <random003> does ubuntu 5.04 come with a cd burning program?
[09:28] <bob2> yes
[09:28] <bob2> a number of them, including the default file manager
[09:28] <random003> bob2, I'm after one that is able to burn iso files, that doesn't require being downloaded (or is on the cd)
[09:28] <durt> crimsun_: good idea, ill try breezy
[09:28] <knowledge> I'm happy to announce that I have officially wiped out my windows partition...
[09:29] <random003> knowledge, good work :D
[09:29] <jkindy> i am a noob who is trying to lern...were is telnetvand how do i get to it..everyone tell me to use ssh but i want to use telnet because that is what is being used in a tutorial i am using
[09:29] <gabriel> bob2, ok
[09:29] <bob2> random003: right click on the .iso in the file manager.  select "burn". enjoy!
[09:29] <Pimpachu> How can I kill X server to install the latest NVIDIA drivers?
[09:29] <Pimpachu> I just need to kill X
[09:29] <knowledge> I booted it up today and I was using it for a little...and it just didn't feel right...I was like mann, nothing like linux...
[09:29] <bob2> Pimpachu: don't bother
[09:29] <bob2> the instructions are wrong
[09:29] <Pimpachu> bob2, Sup?
[09:29] <random003> thanks bob
[09:29] <knowledge> even after installing OS X on my laptop, I came back to linux
[09:29] <Nermal> jkindy, ssh is more secure than telnet
[09:29] <Pimpachu> bob2, I already installed the old ones
[09:30] <Thardas> Is there any downsides in adding universe to sources.list?
[09:30] <bob2> jkindy: it's not worth it
[09:30] <bob2> jkindy: ssh user@ipaddress
[09:30] <Pimpachu> I need the new ones because i'm running 7800GTX in SLI
[09:30] <Pimpachu> I need the latest drivers.
[09:30] <jkindy> do i need to download ssh or is it allready installed
[09:30] <bob2> Pimpachu: ok, but don't bother killing X
[09:30] <Nermal> its already installed
[09:30] <Nermal> just type ssh -l <username> <hostname>
[09:30] <Nermal> man ssh :P
[09:30] <gabriel> bob2,  is flood a xchat user or a chan?
[09:31] <knowledge> but now I have a question...I have a hard drive with OS X installed on it (6 gig partition) and the drive is a 60 gig, how can I move my current linux install onto that without any sort of problems?
[09:31] <bob2> gabriel: a channel...
[09:31] <Nermal> gabriel, channel
[09:31] <Pimpachu> bob2, nvidia tells me it cannot install while X is running.
[09:31] <Nermal> Pimpachu, so stop X ?
[09:31] <DukGalNamu> hey, does anyone know of a graphical network interface??
[09:31] <bob2> Pimpachu: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[09:31] <Nermal> DukGalNamu, ?
[09:31] <Nermal> X ?
[09:31] <bob2> lord those drivers are terrible
[09:31] <DukGalNamu> Nermal: network
[09:31] <Nermal> DukGalNamu, X ?
[09:32] <bob2> DukGalNamu: you seem to have forgotten a word from your question
[09:32] <DukGalNamu> Nermal: as in ethernet server client network
[09:32] <Nermal> DukGalNamu, eh ?
[09:32] <bob2> DukGalNamu: are you perhaps looking for a tool to configure your network interfaces?
[09:32] <Nermal> speak properly
[09:32] <Nermal> or a dictionary
[09:32] <DukGalNamu> bob2: no a tool to mount other hard drives graphically
[09:32] <Nermal> right 5 minutes of n00bs is enough for me today
[09:32] <Pimpachu> bob2, It says it's still running X
[09:32] <bob2> DukGalNamu: so, say that
[09:32] <Pimpachu> bob2, That's a good command to know though.
[09:32] <DukGalNamu> bob2: over thernet
[09:33] <DukGalNamu> bob2: *ethernet
[09:33] <gabriel> bob2, ok done it
[09:33] <bob2> DukGalNamu: www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:33] <bob2> gabriel: ask on the backports forums, I guess
[09:34] <zcat[1] > brb
[09:34] <Pimpachu> bob2, The apt-get version of the driver is too old for what i'm running
[09:34] <gabriel> bob2, sorry. what are the backports forums? not here?
[09:35] <bob2> gabriel: www.ubuntuforums.org, I assume
[09:35] <bob2> it's very likely the issue is with you using the backports
[09:35] <bob2> Pimpachu: I'm not saying I don't believe you...
[09:35] <jkindy> i have a addiction to that nibbles game
[09:35] <DukGalNamu> does anyone know of a gui that mounts bob2 thats all nice and dandy, but i am not using gnome, and all of my attempts at command line shareing have failed
[09:35] <DukGalNamu> oops
[09:35] <bob2> wtf
[09:35] <gabriel> bob2, i go there and give it a try
[09:35] <Pimpachu> bob2, Do you know why even though X is dead NVIDIA would say it is not dead?
[09:36] <gabriel> bob2, thanks
[09:36] <bob2> DukGalNamu: you're going to have a lot of problems getting help with that attitude
[09:36] <bob2> DukGalNamu: things mising from your question include: explaining what sort of files yo uwant to share, what OS the other system runs and how secure you want it to be.
[09:36] <bob2> Pimpachu: no
[09:36] <nalioth> DukGalNamu: we need information
[09:37] <DukGalNamu> bob2: sorry, the other os is gentoo, it requires a username and password, no encryption, security is not an issue, folder is shared with samba
[09:37] <bob2> so...
[09:38] <parka> hi all ... i don't understand how to search in aptitude. if i search for xfce4, it displays some packages but not the main xfce4
[09:38] <bob2> when you said "hey, does anyone know of a graphical network interface??" you meant "Can someone help me mount a SAMBA share?"?
[09:38] <nalioth> parka: do you 'have' to use aptitude? try synaptic if you can
[09:38] <knowledge> parka: use synaptics
[09:38] <Pimpachu> bob2, tty7 just has a black screen with a blinking cursor that won't accept input.
[09:38] <bob2> Pimpachu: yes, X is no longer running on it
[09:38] <zcat[1] > DukGalNamu: apt-get install telnet-server
[09:39] <bob2> Pimpachu: it sounds very much like the nvidia installer being shit
[09:39] <Pimpachu> bob2, I figured it out
[09:39] <bob2> DukGalNamu: do try to be clearer in future...
[09:39] <DukGalNamu> bob2: actually, i had found a GUI program that uses kde that give a nice little interface into mounting things... but if i can figure out how to do it command line then all the more power to me
[09:39] <bob2> DukGalNamu: sudo mount -t smbfs -o ro //<IP_ADDRESS>/snap /mnt/ooder
[09:39] <DukGalNamu> bob2: sorry, i am very tired and don't make sense some times
[09:39] <parka> nalioth, knowledge: thanks, i know ... i just wanted to get used to aptitude. have heard it solves dependencies better
[09:39] <bob2> DukGalNamu: where the IP is the IP of the remote machine, snap is the share name and /mnt/ooder is the local mount point
[09:39] <bob2> the man page explains how to use a a username
[09:39] <nalioth> parka: aptitude and synaptic are the primary frontends to apt-get
[09:40] <knowledge> parka: it is my understanding that it is the same thing one's gui and one is command based
[09:40] <knowledge> but I could be wrong
[09:40] <bob2> they're similar, yes
[09:40] <bob2> and both use the same backend
[09:40] <DukGalNamu> bob2: how do i enter the username aslo?
[09:40] <sukrit> they're similar, yes
[09:40] <DukGalNamu> also
[09:40] <bob2> DukGalNamu: 17:39:56 @         bob2 | the man page explains how to use a a username
[09:41] <DukGalNamu> ...
[09:41] <parka> ah, so would you recommend synaptic over apt-get?
[09:41] <bob2> aptitude or synaptic should be used instead of apt-get, yes
[09:41] <nalioth> parka:  synaptic is a frontend to apt-get
[09:41] <bob2> aptitude is basically a drop-in replacement
[09:41] <bob2> e.g. sudo aptitude install blah
[09:42] <bob2> DukGalNamu: come on dude, man smbmount
[09:42] <knowledge> question...I have a hard drive with OS X installed on it (6 gig partition) and the drive is a 60 gig, how can I move my current linux install onto that without any sort of problems?
[09:42] <bob2> DukGalNamu: the first page shows how to specify the username
[09:42] <bob2> knowledge: I wouldn't bother
[09:42] <knowledge> bob2: good stuff...
[09:42] <nalioth> knowledge: depends on your current linux distro
[09:42] <parka> okay, thank you all
[09:42] <knowledge> bob2: not even try to make an image?
[09:42] <DukGalNamu> bob2: no man for smbmount...
[09:42] <knowledge> nalioth: Ubuntu
[09:42] <Pimpachu> bob2, What's the package name for the Kernel source to apt it down so I can build the nvidia drivers?
[09:42] <joseph> a lil prob here cant connect to internet but i can still chat on messenger
[09:42] <bob2> DukGalNamu: then you need to install it
[09:43] <bob2> Pimpachu: you don't want the kernel source; sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:43] <dennis__> hEllo
[09:43] <nalioth> knowledge: better to install from scratch ubuntu on the hd, and just move your HOMEDIR over
[09:43] <dennis__> cAN ANYOne help  me with some totem problems?
[09:43] <knowledge> nalioth: I could definitely do that
[09:43] <joseph> connection to internet problems....helppp
[09:43] <nalioth> knowledge: what kind of mac?
[09:43] <bob2> knowledge: eh? moving will be tricky and annoying, and involve a boot disk.   why not just use that partition for something else?
[09:43] <dennis__> Anyone?
[09:43] <knowledge> nalioth: Dell Inspiron 8200
[09:44] <dennis__> I'm having problems with stupid totem :(
[09:44] <nalioth> knowledge: i'm very confused, but thats a common constant with me
[09:44] <knowledge> dennis__: what's the prob?
[09:44] <bob2> dennis__: dude, we've done thise twice already today
[09:44] <dennis__> Hehe
[09:44] <bob2> dennis__: just ask your question already
[09:44] <knowledge> nalioth: it's the osX86 version of os x
[09:44] <dennis__> One sec
[09:44] <nalioth> knowledge: just install ubuntu of whatever flavor on it, and it should be no prob
[09:44] <cyphase> lol
[09:44] <cyphase> linuxjournal.com is gettind DoS'ed
[09:44] <dennis__> When I try and open a file in totem
[09:44] <dennis__> I get this
[09:45] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu:  sudo aptitude install smbfs
[09:45] <dennis__> otem could not startup.
[09:45] <dennis__> Resource busy or something else
[09:45] <dennis__> :/
[09:45] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: i got it, and it still doesn't work
[09:45] <dennis__> Even though I restarted x and rebooted the computer after the X reboot didn't work
[09:45] <dennis__> :/
[09:45] <knowledge> nalioth: yeah, I know what you mean...honestly even though I got it to run clean, it still doesn't seem like a mac, you know what I mean?
[09:46] <dennis__> This always seems to happen when I install new graphic drivers
[09:46] <Pimpachu> bob2, The latest Hoary only uses 2.6.10-5?
[09:46] <bob2> Pimpachu: that's what was stable when hoary froze 6+ months ago
[09:46] <maan84> Excuse me... I'm trying to play an *.mkv file and it run's very laggy in Xine, anyone know where I can get good codecs or a solution to the problem? Thank you
[09:46] <nalioth> knowledge: i'm sure the macs that have intel inside are gonna be tweaked to their last squeak
[09:46] <Pimpachu> bob2, Is there no way to use a greater version?
[09:46] <dennis__> bob2 did you see my question?
[09:46] <bob2> Pimpachu: of course there is, but why?
[09:46] <bob2> dennis__: yup
[09:46] <Pimpachu> bob2, I know I could compile it myself, but I fear the worst lol
[09:46] <Digis> Will ubuntu breezy would work on such a hawdware ibm thinkpad 240 (celeron 300mhz, 128 ram), now I am running sarge on it, and planning installing ubuntu...
[09:46] <nalioth> maan84: what hardware are you running it on?
[09:46] <dennis__> ANy idea whats up with it?
[09:46] <bob2> I don't use totem
[09:46] <crimsun_> Digis, yes
[09:47] <Pimpachu> Pimpachu, There's a problem with the NVIDIA driver and Kernels < 2.6.11
[09:47] <dennis__> :/
[09:47] <bob2> Digis: it will run as well as sarge
[09:47] <Digis> maybe even faster?
[09:47] <Digis> what do U think?
[09:47] <nalioth> Digis: plan on installing breezy in october
[09:47] <maan84> nalioth: P4 3.2Ghz, 512 662DDR2 mem, SATA 10,000rpm, GF4
[09:47] <dennis__> nalioth can you help?
[09:47] <knowledge> nalioth: I'm sure, but I thought it was cool that macs had a processor that was unique, and from what I understand...the PPC arch was a MUCH better design, but then again, I'm not a programmer so I can't care that much
[09:47] <bob2> DukGalNamu: no need to /msg me...
[09:47] <nalioth> maan84: try using vlc
[09:47] <bob2> Digis: about the same
[09:47] <DukGalNamu> bob2: its my actuall username and password....
[09:47] <Digis> nalioth, I am running breezy on my work pc, and it runs not bad
[09:47] <maan84> nalioth: I'm very new, vlc? :)
[09:47] <DukGalNamu> bob2: :P
[09:48] <orlok> knowledge: actually, thre have been unix systems running that CPU family for a looooooooong time
[09:48] <bob2> DukGalNamu: I know, but there's no need to show that to me at all...
[09:48] <DukGalNamu> bob2: well it fails emerging
[09:48] <nalioth> dennis__: sorry, am not familiar with totem or multimedia in general
[09:48] <bob2> "emerging"?
[09:48] <IceDC571> how would you test a dpkg package to see if it would install correctly or not?
[09:48] <dennis__> :/
[09:48] <DukGalNamu> bob2: duuur, i mean it fail mounting
[09:48] <dennis__> Is anyone here familiar with totem?
[09:48] <nalioth> knowledge: politics is the decision maker in the switch
[09:48] <bob2> IceDC571: try and install it
[09:48] <Wilf> just installed ubuntu, but x won't start. S3 Trio video card, is this the cause?
[09:48] <nalioth> maan84: videolan client, it plays dang near everything video
[09:49] <bob2> DukGalNamu: so
[09:49] <bob2> DukGalNamu: I can't see your screen.  or your logs.  or how yo uset things up. etc.
[09:49] <orlok>  knowledge: IBM's RS6000 systems, i remember seeing a PPC604e based one
[09:49] <maan84> nalioth: Ok :) Where can I get a hold of it?
[09:49] <bob2> DukGalNamu: telling me "it dont work" does not let me help at all
[09:49] <thoreauputic> Wilf: S3 Trio? Is this an old machne?
[09:49] <DukGalNamu> bob2: sorry
[09:49] <Wilf> yes
[09:49] <thoreauputic> *machine
[09:49] <bob2> anyway, hometime
[09:49] <dennis__> thoreauputic, how about you?
[09:50] <dennis__> YOu familiar with totem?
[09:50] <nalioth> !info vlc
[09:50] <Wilf> says there are errors
[09:50] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[09:50] <Wilf> with symbols not found
[09:50] <thoreauputic> Wilf: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the vesa driver
[09:50] <Digi> can someone tell me what to do about this error message?
[09:50] <Digi> Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-RO M recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[09:50] <Wilf> ok
[09:50] <nalioth> maan84: you need the universe repo enabled and you can get vlc using synaptic
[09:50] <thoreauputic> dennis__: I use totem-xine sometimes
[09:50] <knowledge> nalioth: agreed, in the end, it's money and politics
[09:50] <dennis__> Well
[09:50] <dennis__> For some reason
[09:50] <dennis__> After I installed the ati drivers for my video card
[09:50] <thoreauputic> dennis__: I wouldn't say I'm "familiar" with it ;)
[09:51] <dennis__> Totem fucked up :/
[09:51] <maan84> naloth: ok thanks, I'm pretty sure I got universe added in the sources list, do I use some apt command to get it? :)
[09:51] <dennis__> It says it is busy and can not play the file
[09:51] <dennis__> Even after a reboot
[09:51] <nalioth> maan84: you can use "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[09:51] <maan84> nalioth: Thank you
[09:51] <dennis__> and I searched running tasks and totem is not there
[09:51] <thoreauputic> dennis__: possibly an esd issue - just a guess
[09:51] <knowledge> orlok: true, but it's not a mac, I don't know how to explain it...but to me, a mac was something special....elite I guess you could say...I mean I'm sure that there will be another OS that will still use Risc procs...but it's not the same
[09:52] <dennis__> thoreauputic, esd?
[09:52] <nalioth> knowledge: another OS (you mean like linux?)
[09:52] <thoreauputic> dennis__: Enlightened Sound Daemon
[09:52] <knowledge> nalioth: yeah
[09:52] <\dev\goat> http://www.mailnation.net <-- how badass is that
[09:52] <thoreauputic> dennis__: try killall esd and re-run totem
[09:53] <nalioth> knowledge: i have 2 macs now running ubuntu, and am working on gettin 2 more running ubuntu
[09:53] <nalioth> knowledge: i find OSX overrated
[09:53] <dennis__> Thor :/
[09:53] <dennis__> Didn't work
[09:53] <DukGalNamu> bob2: its called smb4k
[09:54] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[09:54] <ubotu> methinks doesn't work is something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[09:54] <athlon> is digital camera supported by ubuntu stock kernel   ?
[09:54] <dennis__> hehe
[09:54] <knowledge> nalioth: yeah, I agree, I was so hyped about using OSX on my own computer, so I could fool around with all the ins and outs...but after about an hour I was like...this is it? I just think the cases looked nice. Also, I don't even know where to begin looking for mobos and processors to build a PPC comp
[09:55] <dennis__> Thor, same error message
[09:55] <gabriel> but in hoary is samba istalled by default or not?
[09:55] <dennis__> "Reource busy ...blah blah"
[09:55] <nalioth> knowledge: there are not a lot of PPC mobos other than via apple
[09:55] <jesper> athlon: yes, most are..
[09:55] <knowledge> nalioth: exactly...
[09:56] <Seveas> gabriel, depends on what you need
[09:56] <knowledge> nalioth: so even if there are distros and os' that can utilize PPC, there's no longer a point after 2Q '06
[09:56] <Seveas> gabriel, the samba part in nautilus is there, the samba daemon or smbfs program/library not.
[09:56] <dennis__> esource busy or not available.
[09:57] <gabriel> Seveas, i just need to share files beetween hoary and wxp under vmware
[09:57] <Seveas> can't you just mount the XP disks or does VMware hide them?
[09:57] <bob2> DukGalNamu: so, when you were talking about mounting things, you only meant SMB shares, ok
[09:57] <knowledge> rawr
[09:58] <DukGalNamu> bob2: yeah, although that program is great for all other shares
[09:58] <gabriel> Saveas. let me check
[09:58] <DukGalNamu> bob2: i still can't figure out why it doesn't mount....
[09:58] <athlon> Ive removed the stock kernel some time ago  and use a custom kernel. I am trying to install it again but strangely synaptic only has linux-image up to 2.6.11
[09:58] <bob2> "all other shares"?
[09:58] <DukGalNamu> bob2: ntfs
[09:58] <DukGalNamu> bob2: and such
[09:59] <bob2> athlon: synaptic won't know or care about packages that aren't in apt repositories
[09:59] <bob2> Pimpachu: you'll be on your own then, no ubuntu kernels above 2.6.10 work on hoary
[09:59] <DukGalNamu> bob2: it sees everything on the network and can mount something if its available
[09:59] <gabriel> Seveas, do you mean i should mount the virtual file of vmware?
[09:59] <athlon> oh, okay. I just thought it's a bug or something
[10:01] <Wilf> thor|away, that didn't work
[10:01] <DukGalNamu> bob2: its late, i am sorry if i don't make sense
[10:01] <Wilf> changed the driver to vesa
[10:01] <Wilf> but i get no symbol found error a few times
[10:01] <Wilf> then "fatal server error: no screens found"
[10:02] <gabriel> Seveas, i cant see xp disks under vmware
[10:03] <Thardas> gabriel: share them.
[10:03] <maan84> Weird, *.mkv won't play at all in VLC =/ And I tried open a *.avi that plays fine in xine, it plays in vlc but without sound :P
[10:04] <gabriel> Thardas, should i shear the whole xp disk under xp in vmware?
[10:04] <Madpilot> does anyone know if the Ubuntu kernal includes the ppSCSI module, or a way I could check for it? I'm not interesting in compiling my own kernal...
[10:05] <Thardas> gabriel: it would probably be the easiest way.
[10:05] <Thardas> Do you have Simple Sharing enabled?
[10:06] <gabriel> Thardas, hei man,it was the easyest way! Thanks
[10:06] <Seveas> Madpilot, CONFIG_SCSI_PPA=m
[10:06] <Seveas> is that it?
[10:06] <Thardas> gabriel: you're welcome.
[10:06] <Internat> any users of bluez in here?
[10:07] <Madpilot> Seveas: possibly. I'm just googling on getting an old parport scanner working - does that mean the module I'd need is already in the Ubuntu kernel?
[10:07] <Madpilot> Seveas: http://www.kirchgessner.net/sanehpfaq.html#HPFAQ3A
[10:08] <DukGalNamu> bob2: apperently something is wrong with my system, cause it can't see any network or any of the computers on my network...
[10:08] <DukGalNamu> bob2: ohh, could it be because i set my system to DMZ?
[10:09] <DukGalNamu> bob2: that now i am not allowed to talk to other computers on the network for samty reasons
[10:09] <DukGalNamu> safty
[10:09] <catfox> morning all. i'm struggling with my synaptics touchpad on a different distro(work laptop). the same touchpad works fine on my other laptop though, so can anyone point me to the default haory config  for it, please?
[10:10] <DukGalNamu> nope i can ping it
[10:10] <bob2> wtf
[10:11] <bob2> DukGalNamu: go to bed, dude
[10:11] <DukGalNamu> bob2: yeah ok
[10:11] <DukGalNamu> bob2: gnight :P
[10:12] <ekimus> catfox: i could give you a (quite) generic howto on the synaptics touchpad
[10:12] <catfox> ekimus, sure
[10:12] <ekimus> catfox: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Gentoo_Acer_Travelmate_803LCi_Manual#Synaptics_Touchpad
[10:12] <catfox> ekimus, thanks, i'll take a look
[10:13] <Madpilot> catfox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowto <-- not sure about this for Hoary - it seems to be for Warty - but have a look
[10:13] <Madpilot> (and update it if you can when you get your touchpad working!)
[10:13] <catfox> Madpilot, cheers i'll check that out too
[10:15] <onkarshinde> anyone trying colony 3? How is it? Does it contain GNOME 2.12 (unstable)?
[10:15] <Burgundavia> oneleaf, yes
[10:15] <Burgundavia> onkarshinde, yes, it contains 2.11 (which will become 2.12)
[10:15] <thoreauputic> Wilf: this might help (no guarantees) >>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg  and say "no" to the framebuffer question
[10:16] <Wilf> ok
[10:16] <onkarshinde> Burgundavia: How is colony 3 as compared to Hoary?
[10:16] <Burgundavia> onkarshinde, much better
[10:16] <Wilf> ok thoreauputic, brb
[10:16] <onkarshinde> Burgundavia: Any specific improvements?
[10:16] <Wilf> thanks for helping by the way
[10:16] <Wilf> i really appreciate it
[10:17] <thoreauputic> np
[10:17] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:17] <Burgundavia> onkarshinde, wiki.ubuntu.com/QuickTourDraft is a quick guide to some of the latest cool things
[10:18] <Wilf> thoreauputic, S3 or Vesa?
[10:18] <Jowi> hello everyone
[10:19] <thoreauputic> Wilf: I would stick with vesa - it works for anything, normally
[10:19] <thoreauputic> Wilf: if not , you might need to rerun the command and try other drivers
[10:19] <Wilf> ok
[10:22] <onkarshinde> why isn't vlc included in Ubuntu by default though it is better than totem.
[10:22] <bob2> better sounds fairly subjective
[10:22] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: when did you stop beating your wife?
[10:23] <thoreauputic> leading questions...
[10:23] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: What is that?
[10:23] <thoreauputic> never mind
[10:23] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: :)
[10:25] <Wilf> thoreauputic, nada.
[10:25] <thoreauputic> Wilf: :(
[10:27] <thoreauputic> Wilf: have you tried running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choosing the simple options? Like trying to get it working at 800x600, choosing low values for vid memory etc?
[10:27] <Wilf> yep.
[10:28] <Wilf> all configs are set low by default due to the limitations of the video card
[10:29] <dooglus> can someone please help me find /usr/lib/perl5/Curses.pm in 'breezy'?
[10:29] <dooglus> I see this:    $ apt-file search /usr/lib/perl5/Curses.pm
[10:29] <dooglus> libcurses-perl: usr/lib/perl5/Curses.pm
[10:30] <gabriel> Thardas, i got to the smb shared folder from linux onto xp but i get a log request. none of the username + psw go well. it asks username domain and psw. what should i use?
[10:30] <dooglus> but I've installed libcurses-perl, and the file didn't appear.
[10:30] <Jowi> sorry for breaking in, but Wilf, have you had a look with "sudo ddcprobe" to see what is supported?
[10:30] <Wilf> nope Jowi, will do that now
[10:31] <dooglus> gabriel: try blank username and password, and put the workgroup name for the domain
[10:31] <Wilf> all the settings seem to be within limitations of the card...
[10:32] <Jowi> so what is the problem?
[10:33] <Wilf> x wont start :\
[10:33] <Wilf> "fatal server eror: no screens found"
[10:33] <Jowi> ouch. alright. so no sceen is configured in xorg.conf? have you posted xorg.conf in the pastebin already?
[10:34] <Wilf> xorg.conf in the pastebin?
[10:34] <Jowi> yeah. copy your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:34] <toonX> i am trying to run some X app from console logged as root , but i get this error that the app can't connect to the X server , i did a set and saw i have no DISPLAY variable for user root, how can i export one ?
[10:34] <Jowi> and give us the link to your post
[10:34] <Wilf> different computer
[10:34] <drcode> any one know about free backup software client /server with nice gui ?
[10:35] <Wilf> and the other one is not set up to the internet yet
[10:35] <Wilf> but
[10:35] <Jowi> Wilf: nasty :P
[10:35] <Wilf> i could copy it to a floppy and copy it over
[10:35] <Wilf> this is a fresh install by the way
[10:35] <Wilf> never worked from the word go
[10:35] <Jowi> lowtech. i like it. lol
[10:35] <Jowi> yeah, something is wrong in the xorg.conf file i'm sure
[10:36] <Wilf> i used ubuntu for a while on this computer, until my studies took priority (3DS Max) :\
[10:36] <Wilf> worked fine on this machine
[10:37] <Jowi> ...but the other one does not get a "screen" according to xorg...
[10:37] <Wilf> yup
[10:37] <gabriel> the net server doesn't open anymore.
[10:37] <Wilf> it also says "screens found, but none with a useable configuraion"
[10:37] <Wilf> if that helps
[10:38] <Jowi> Wilf: if you can find a way to give us a taste of your xorg.conf it would help alot. useless advise you'll get otherwise
[10:38] <toonX> why do i get this err when trying to some some X apps from Terminal as root ? Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server and Xlib: No protocol specified and
[10:38] <Wilf> ok, give me a minute
[10:38] <toonX> and Error: unable to open display :0
[10:39] <Thardas> gabriel: are you sharing from Windows to Linux?
[10:39] <Wilf> Jowi: sorry about the noobie questions, but how do i mount a floppy?
[10:40] <Wilf> i've forgotten :\
[10:40] <Wilf> mount (something) /mnt/fdd0
[10:40] <Jowi> erhm... should be mount /media/floppy
[10:40] <Wilf> my mandrake is showing :\
[10:40] <ndlovu> hi all. I'm having trouble installing samba. not sure if it's a problem on my side or with the repositories. I get this error:
[10:40] <ndlovu>  smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1) but 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 is to be installed
[10:40] <ndlovu> any ideas?
[10:41] <Jowi> i don't have a floppy on this computer so i'm lost there. was a few years ago
[10:41] <gabriel> Thardas, yes under vmware. now i can't open the net window no more i think i should reeboot
[10:41] <Seveas> ndlovu, disable backports...
[10:41] <thoreauputic> Wilf: if it helps, my old pentium 200 here with S3 Trio Gx or DX is using depth 16 rather than 24, with the vesa driver, and running at 1024x768
[10:41] <ndlovu> thanks Seveas, will try that
[10:43] <thoreauputic> Wilf: mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy for the floppy
[10:43] <Tribune> i did finish do wget http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb. after this i need to do sudo apt-get install ..?
[10:44] <Seveas> dpkg -i sun*deb
[10:45] <Tribune> !ubotu
[10:45] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:45] <Tribune> gosh... what my next step. how stupid i am
[10:46] <thoreauputic> Tribune: Seveas just told you above
[10:46] <Tribune> oohh
[10:46] <Tribune> isee
[10:46] <thoreauputic> Tribune: insert " sudo " before that command, BTW
[10:47] <Tribune> thanks
[10:47] <Tribune> if i finish install my java.. is it i can use m limewire & azarues?
[10:48] <Tribune> real player format? which application can i use?
[10:48] <Jowi> realplayer
[10:49] <Madpilot> Tribune: rm can be played by Totem or nearly anything
[10:49] <Madpilot> !restricted
[10:49] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:50] <maan84> Hello, in Mplayer I get that subfont.ttf is missing, and I googled some and found out that any *.ttf file will work (Arial) was default, so I thought I'd copy a font to ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf, though where can I find a font to copy? :D *new*
[10:50] <Wilf> hrmmm
[10:50] <Wilf> should it be too big for a floppy?
[10:50] <Jowi> Wilf: xorg.conf is about 3kb
[10:50] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: unless you like listening to BBC radio, in which case realplay is the only option afaics
[10:50] <arcanistherogue> say, anyone here use legacy doom?
[10:50] <hussam> anybody here using openofficeorg2 from http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m125/Build-1/ ?
[10:50] <Wilf> :\
[10:51] <arcanistherogue> I have a question
[10:51] <Wilf> where should it be?
[10:51] <arcanistherogue> is there a switch that lets me play it in a window?
[10:51] <Jowi> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:51] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: really? gack. all the net radio I've used so far has worked fine in Totem...
[10:51] <Wilf> ah, wrong place, stupid me.
[10:51] <Wilf> sorry, brb :P
[10:51] <thoreauputic> Wilf: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:52] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: they use a "BBC player" that relies on realplay to work (it's really dumb)
[10:52] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: my respect for the Beeb just went down a notch...
[10:53] <k31th> wat was ubuntu docs channel
[10:53] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: a while back they had ogg vorbis feeds, but it was experimental and they stopped
[10:53] <k31th> im ment to be helping out with that
[10:53] <maan84> Anyone know where I can find Arial.ttf or another ttf font file? Which location on the harddrive? :)
[10:54] <Jowi> maan84: the packagename is called msttcorefonts
[10:54] <dooglus> maan84: /mnt/c/WINDOWS/FONTS/arial.ttf
[10:54] <k31th> wtf is the mp3 codec called?? i cant play mp3s in any player yet if i hover the mouse over the sound file it plays
[10:54] <dooglus> (or wherever you mount your C: drive)
[10:54] <Ng> Madpilot: they use Real because nobody else was doing decent hardware encoder boxes when they introduced the service. they are writing their own Free codecs though.
[10:55] <maan84> Jowi: ok thank you so I have to install a package to find fonts? :)
[10:55] <maan84> dooglus: Not running windows, but thank you :)
[10:55] <Madpilot> Ng: interesting. I use other Real feeds, though, and they work fine in Totem... bah, audio is just a mess...
[10:55] <dooglus> maan84: I just used "locate" to find that font
[10:55] <Wilf> yes
[10:55] <Wilf> i got me a conf file.
[10:55] <Madpilot> k31th: do you mean ubuntu-doc channel?
[10:55] <Jowi> maan84: Arial and the like is used under licence. there is a package called msttcorefonts that downloads and installs the fonts from microsofts site
[10:55] <dooglus> locate .ttf
[10:56] <thoreauputic> Ng: are they reiventing the wheel or do their codecs have some special advantage over vorbis and friends?
[10:56] <maan84> Jowi: Ah ok, it don't have to be arial, just a readable ttf font that I can add in the ~/.mplayer/ directory so I can view subtitles, it appears to be missing, and I read that any ttf font would be ok to add there
[10:57] <thoreauputic> Jowi: actually it downloads from various sites - I don't think MS co-operate any more
[10:57] <Jowi> maan84: all installed fonts are in /usr/share/fonts/
[10:57] <maan84> Jowi: Thank you :)
[10:57] <Madpilot> isn't there an "mplayer-fonts" package specially for mplayer?
[10:57] <dooglus> would someone using 'breezy' please try installing and running 'sysv-rc-conf'.  is it broken?
[10:57] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: there is indeed
[10:58] <Jowi> thoreauputic: maybe it changed since last week then :-)
[10:58] <Ng> thoreauputic: pass, I think their dirac video stuff is aimed at working fine with broadcast resolution video
[10:58] <maan84> If there is, I don't seem to have it installed for mplayer :)
[10:58] <thoreauputic> Jowi: ? last time I installed msttcorefonts they came from several URLs ?
[10:58] <gabriel> hei i cant get nautilus to respond anymore how do i kill ilt and restart it?
[10:58] <Prower> Hmm...there's a fastcgi module for apache2, but there isn't a fastcgi package anywhere :/ Is it needed?
[10:59] <Jowi> thoreauputic: yep. and one of them was microsoft connected
[10:59] <thoreauputic> Jowi: ah, OK - my bad
[10:59] <thoreauputic> Jowi: I didn't notice that
[10:59] <dooglus> do you mean libapache-mod-fastcgi, Prower?
[10:59] <knowledge> Good night everyone...I'm out
[10:59] <dooglus> sorry - apache2?
[10:59] <Wilf> Jowi, thoreauputic: http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33289
[10:59] <dooglus> libapache2-mod-fastcgi then.
[11:00] <gabriel> can i only reboot to get nautilus to respond?
[11:00] <Prower> dooglus: Yes, that's right :> On other systems I've used there's also been a fastcgi package that was required for it to work, and in the Debian/Ubuntu guide for rails it also mentions it
[11:00] <dooglus> Prower: I never used it, sorry.
[11:01] <thoreauputic> Wilf: umm - login reuired
[11:01] <thoreauputic> *required
[11:01] <Wilf> oh -_-;
[11:01] <Prower> dooglus: Ahh, no problem, thanks...I'll just have to keep looking around
[11:01] <Jowi> thoreauputic: not important enough to fuzz about. just something i noticed while installing them that's all
[11:01] <Jowi> Wilf: pastebin
[11:01] <Jowi> !pastebin
[11:01] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:01] <thoreauputic> Jowi: sure - interesting though
[11:02] <Wilf> thanks :)
[11:02] <Wilf> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1573
[11:02] <Jowi> thoreauputic: sure is. makes me want to uninstall - reinstall just to doublecheck!
[11:03] <SSkroeder> Hi ... i'm new with ubuntu -- and i've got a question about getting software upgrades ... see, whenever i start gaim, it says to me, that a 1.5.0 version is available --- but when i use the update tool nothing happens .... how can i get gaim 1.5.0, so i don't get an anoying popup anymore ...
[11:03] <k31th> why can i not play mp3s in xmms
[11:03] <k31th> yet i can by hanging my mouse over the file
[11:03] <k31th> ??
[11:03] <Seveas> k31th: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[11:03] <k31th> Seveas: is that an option in xmms ?
[11:03] <Seveas> yes
[11:03] <Jowi> Wilf: run "sudo ddcprobe" again, take notice of the horiz and vertical refresh values because you need to enter them in xorg.conf
[11:04] <thoreauputic> Jowi: heheh - <tinfoilhat> MS have imbedded a trojan in the fonts!!  </tinfoilhat>
[11:04] <Wilf> ok
[11:05] <zcat[1] > /var/lib/defoma/gs.d/dirs/fonts/FreeSans.ttf ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf
[11:05] <zcat[1] > should work?
[11:05] <cafuego> thoreauputic: mr bush rang, he wants his hat back
[11:05] <zcat[1] > err ln -s all that...
[11:05] <Seveas> zcat[1] , yes
[11:05] <Jowi> thoreauputic: nah, they have been freely available for download for the past 5-6 years at least. but that tinfoilhat idea is brilliant!
[11:05] <maan84> Phew, worked so hard to get the *.mkt file running with sounds and videio and all, xine/totem/vlc failed but mplayer could play it, then subs don't work /cry :P
[11:05] <thoreauputic> cafuego: hahah
[11:05] <maan84> mkv*
[11:05] <k31th> damn this xmms has crashed
[11:05] <k31th> i cant find the pid out
[11:05] <k31th> it just hangs there
[11:06] <Wilf> Jowi: is a log of the ddcprobe kept anywhere?
[11:06] <Jowi> Wilf: nope, just prints to the screen. in section "Monitor" add something like this:      HorizSync          30-96
[11:06] <Jowi>      VertRefresh        50-160
[11:06] <Wilf> yep, but those values have scrolled up the screen
[11:06] <Wilf> before i could see them
[11:07] <Jowi> shift+pageup
[11:07] <Wilf> ah
[11:07] <Jowi> Wilf: mouse scrollwheel work too
[11:07] <Wilf> 31 - 69, 50 - 120
[11:08] <SSkroeder> Hi ... i'm new with ubuntu -- and i've got a question about getting software upgrades ... see, whenever i start gaim, it says to me, that a 1.5.0 version is available --- but when i use the update tool nothing happens .... how can i get gaim 1.5.0, so i don't get that anoying popup anymore ... ---anyone ?
[11:08] <Jowi> Wilf: so in xorg.conf, look for "Monitor" and as last option add: HorizSync 31-69
[11:09] <Wilf> ok
[11:09] <Jowi> Wilf: and:  VertRefresh 50-120
[11:09] <Prower> SSkroeder: Sorry, I don't think I've ever gotten a popup like that
[11:10] <neperju> huh?
[11:10] <thoreauputic> Jowi: http://zapatopi.net/afdb/  and  http://zapatopi.net/mindguard/  :D
[11:11] <SSkroeder> Prower: ... it's a popup from inside Gaim --stating that the 1.5.0 now is available - and several bugfixes and such have been resolved...
[11:11] <Jowi> thoreauputic: lol!
[11:12] <thoreauputic> Jowi: the program is a hoot ;D
[11:12] <cafuego> SSkroeder: Any chance it's a spam with a worm download?
[11:12] <deFrysk> SSkroeder, stable version of ubuntu does only do security patches , package versions are frozen till stable next release comes out
[11:12] <Prower> SSkroeder: Oh, I know what you mean, yeah...I've just never got them in Ubuntu before
[11:12] <Pogopuschel-> Download and compile it yourself
[11:12] <Pogopuschel-> http://gaim.sourceforge.net/downloads.php
[11:13] <deFrysk> SSkroeder, only safe option for newer packages is the backports repo
[11:13] <SSkroeder> deFrysk: how often are new stable versions made ...
[11:13] <cafuego> SSkroeder: every 6 months
[11:13] <deFrysk> SSkroeder, every half year, in april and october
[11:14] <SSkroeder> ok
[11:14] <Jowi> thoreauputic: i like this quote: "MindGuard -- the name known and trusted by Amiga users for a decade. Now available for Linux.
[11:14] <Prower> SSkroeder: You could use the 1.4 version in backports, that works well
[11:14] <Jowi> i laughed so hard i got a headache, thanks
[11:15] <thoreauputic> Jowi: heheh - yeah the whole site is very funny: note the license "MGPL"  ;)
[11:15] <SSkroeder> Prower: as in : just keep on using the version, im using now because all the security fixes a bound to come ?
[11:15] <deFrysk> SSkroeder, ubuntu-developers are working hard to make the packages work properly and stable , so safest way is to stick to the ubuntu repositories
[11:16] <SSkroeder> Ok ;-)
[11:16] <Wilf> uh oh :\
[11:16] <imsick> hello
[11:17] <Jowi> Wilf: ?
[11:17] <Wilf> startx
[11:17] <rwabel> hi
[11:17] <Wilf> screen stopped responding (light went orange)
[11:17] <rwabel> is it normal that when upgrading (dist-upgrade) from hoary to breezy over 100packages get removed?
[11:17] <penny> startx 2 > mylog
[11:17] <Jowi> did you put in the vertical refresh as well?
[11:17] <Wilf> yes
[11:17] <Jowi> good
[11:17] <penny> nano mylog
[11:17] <Wilf> dinner, back in a while.
[11:18] <penny> O.O
[11:19] <Madpilot> penny: wrong window?
[11:20] <Jowi> Wilf: next step is to remove your faulty resolutions. in the xorg.conf only use the following modes: "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"  for all colordepths and delete the rest. you can add them later if 1024x768 works fine. that will do the trick. I'm off to watch a movie now
[11:20] <Prower> SSkroeder: Security updates are done for the packages, but they're not necessarily bumped up to the latest version at that time...so you can be pretty confident the version you're using is secure, just not the newest
[11:20] <SSkroeder> Prower:  ok ...
[11:20] <penny> cinema
[11:22] <Jowi> cu guys
[11:23] <bartekp> hi
[11:24] <pef> hello
[11:27] <Madpilot> back in a bit - actually need to shut this box down for the first time in a week...
[11:31] <mediamill> anyone using ubuntu as a production hosting server?
[11:32] <Wilf> ok, back.
[11:32] <Wilf> so i've entered my monitor settings incorrectly
[11:33] <Di42lo> hello
[11:33] <Prower> mediamill: I will be once I have apache configured and everything :>
[11:34] <Di42lo> how can i compile my dialer to the internet in ubuntu if i dont have internet and i cant install gcc
[11:34] <mediamill> I just managed to do Apache2 with php, perl mysql, and phpmyadmin via synaptic. have not checked the config yet but its running.
[11:35] <Di42lo> mediamill: it was designed to be running
[11:35] <gabriel> reboted and nautilus now working again. when i get to shared folder on wxp machine i get prompted for username and password. no user password combination works.. not even blank. how can i gain access to folder?
[11:36] <joseph> i can connect to messenger but cant move on to other internet sites other then file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html.....helppp whats wrong
[11:38] <joseph> it says the operation timeed out when attemptin to connect to www. blah blah.com....need help..i can only connect to messanger but cant go to other sites other thanfile:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[11:38] <joseph> helllllpppppppppppp
[11:39] <penny> ...
[11:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> any gues how long 14GB will take to put into a tar.bz2?
[11:39] <penny> kidding
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> Kamping_Kaiser: a long time
[11:39] <gabriel> when i get shared password wrong 10 times or more i get a nautilus hang. how do i unfreez it?
[11:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh. was hoping for a closer figure ;)
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> Kamping_Kaiser: also gzip would be better
[11:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> gzip? why?
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> bzip2 would hammer your CPU
[11:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh it is
[11:40] <penny> really?
[11:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> joseph: can you ping websites by ip address?
[11:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> so no ;|
[11:41] <Wilf> how do i list all process ID's
[11:41] <can-o-worms> i have a samba share on a ubuntu box that i can access with linux or windows, but not from osx... i know there is nothing wrong with the osx box because it can access a samba share on a gentoo box i have .... anyone seen anything like this?
[11:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> ps or top?
[11:41] <penny> ps uax
[11:43] <kemik> can-o-worms:  well your sambashare seem to work aswell since you can acces it from windows/linux ;)
[11:43] <kemik> can-o-worms:  but it does seem strange
[11:43] <Di42lo> how can i compile my dialer to the internet in ubuntu if i dont have internet and i cant install gcc?
[11:43] <can-o-worms> kemik: it is really strange... it actually locks finder up
[11:44] <kemik> can-o-worms:  maybe you mistyped the adress? or blokcing the OSX machine in a firewall ?
[11:44] <kemik> Di42lo:  apt-get install build-essential.. it could be on the CD, im not sure
[11:44] <kemik> !compile
[11:44] <ubotu> somebody said compile was tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand  Ask me about <compiling>
[11:44] <kemik> !compiling
[11:45] <can-o-worms> kemik: i am just doubling clicking the icon in osx, and there is no firewall, the gentoo box is <IP_ADDRESS> and ubuntu is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:45] <ubuntunobuntu> hi there. ive got some noob question: How can I set an alarm for birthdays in Evolution?
[11:45] <can-o-worms> kemik: do you have an osx box?
[11:46] <kemik> can-o-worms:  so the share "appears" on the network, but trying to access it hangs you OSX application (finder)
[11:46] <kemik> can-o-worms:  luckily no ;) hehe
[11:46] <can-o-worms> kemik: exactly... but windows and another ubuntu box have no problem with it
[11:47] <kemik> and the gentoo box and ubuntu box has the same settings for their shares? (access-wise)
[11:47] <kemik> can-o-worms:  gentoo and ubuntu using hte same version of samba?
[11:47] <can-o-worms> kemik: not exactly, i tried copying the config file straight over and had a few problems
[11:48] <can-o-worms> kemik: but the actually share part is the same.... the global has a couple of different parts
[11:48] <can-o-worms> kemik: do you use samba?
[11:49] <mediamill> big respects to all involved in ubuntu, just installed it and I'm very impressed. My new favorite distro
[11:49] <kemik> can-o-worms:  not much these days.. since i've migrated all my computers to debian / ubuntu .. but sometimes i dualboot this one to windows... so yes i use samba but mostly NFS
[11:50] <kemik> mediamill:  nice ;)
[11:50] <Madpilot> how do I check to see if a SCSI device has been detected by Ubuntu?
[11:51] <michi-23123> hello, please help me
[11:51] <HrdwrBoB> Madpilot: look in dmesg?
[11:51] <michi-23123> does anyone know how to mount a usb stick on solaris
[11:52] <can-o-worms> kemik: it is just that the unbuntu starter guide talks about using a smbusers file, but i just use smbpasswd file
[11:52] <michi-23123> very impotan
[11:52] <michi-23123> very important
[11:52] <kemik> michi-23123:  solaris ?
[11:52] <michi-23123> sun solaris
[11:52] <michi-23123> unix
[11:53] <Madpilot> HrdwrBoB: how can I use the massive output from dmesg and find any mention of SCSI?
[11:53] <kemik> michi-23123:  and this is #ubuntu -linux
[11:53] <michi-23123> i know
[11:53] <Wilf> Jowi, thoreauputic: I WIN!
[11:53] <Wilf> THANKS SO MUCH!
[11:54] <michi-23123> but perhaps there is someboy who knows this
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> Madpilot: pipe it to less
[11:54] <thoreauputic> Wilf: how did you fix it?
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> :)
[11:54] <kemik> michi-23123:  i'd imagine solaris and ubuntu differs quite alot
[11:54] <Wilf> thoreauputic, horizontal and vertical frequencies
[11:54] <Madpilot> HrdwrBoB: thanks, should have thought of that...
[11:54] <thoreauputic> ah!
[11:54] <thoreauputic> Wilf: congrats 1
[11:55] <thoreauputic> heh s/1/!
[11:55] <clem_yeats> michi-23123: join #solaris and ask there
[11:55] <Wilf> ^_^
[11:55] <kemik> can-o-worms:  dont know what can be causing you problems really. could be a bug, bad-config etc..  :/
[11:57] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: or dmesg | grep -i SCSI    I suppose  ?
[11:57] <can-o-worms> kemik: yeah... thanks for your time... thoreauputic might know something
[11:57] <can-o-worms> thoreauputic: do you use samba with your mac?
[11:58] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: hmmm, that gives no output, but I did see something about scsi when I piped to less and read the blasted thing...
[11:59] <thoreauputic> can-o-worms: yes, but it tends to be slow - I use ssh/scp for preference
[11:59] <thoreauputic> can-o-worms: of course that's mostly about me being too lazy to configure samba properly ;)
[12:00] <Madpilot> old-school SCSI tech is great - so *clumsy* compared to USB... ;)
[12:00] <can-o-worms> thoreauputic: well, i have a share on a ubuntu box that locks up finder when i try to open it
[12:00] <can-o-worms> thoreauputic: but i can open the share from linux and windows without a problem
[12:01] <can-o-worms> thoreauputic: the osx box is ok, because it doesn't have any problems opening a samba share on a gentoo box
[12:01] <thoreauputic> can-o-worms: so I gathered - I'm afraid I'm no samba expert - I use nfs and scp here
[12:01] <thoreauputic> although nfs with OS-X is a pain too...
[12:01] <can-o-worms> thoreauputic: fair enough... i suppose it is just a matter of pulling out some more hair
[12:01] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:04] <linux_ubuntu> hello room
[12:05] <steve_> hello
[12:05] <linux_ubuntu> is there anyone can help me?
[12:05] <Madpilot> linux_ubuntu: that depends on your questions
[12:06] <zaphands> Hello everyone! After activating firestarter firewall I can't access my LAN. I'm using eth0 for my modem, eth1 for LAN's router and I don't want internet connection sharing.
[12:06] <linux_ubuntu> my browser is not working at all
[12:06] <linux_ubuntu> dialup connects correctly
[12:07] <linux_ubuntu> is there a problem with firefox?
[12:07] <Wilf> ok all up and running :D
[12:07] <Wilf> how do i make it fluxbox instead of gnome?
[12:07] <steve_> is there any1 in here from blackpool
[12:08] <linux_ubuntu> is this room alive?
[12:08] <Ex_Cyber> linux_ubuntu: what happens when you try to access a web site?
[12:09] <linux_ubuntu> it says could not find address check and try again
[12:09] <Madpilot> linux_ubuntu: try google.com or something that you *know* won't be down...
[12:10] <Ex_Cyber> no
[12:10] <Ex_Cyber> if the address can't be found it doesn't matter if the remote site is down
[12:10] <Ex_Cyber> as you can't contact it to begin with
[12:11] <linux_ubuntu> i tried every thing i know like yahoo and msn
[12:11] <linux_ubuntu> my modem is lucent win modem
[12:11] <Madpilot> linux_ubuntu: are you on dailup right now? IRC is working, then?
[12:11] <linux_ubuntu> no i am at other pc now
[12:12] <linux_ubuntu> i check in the terminal window that ip's assigned correctly
[12:12] <Ex_Cyber> linux_ubuntu: can you paste the contents of the file /etc/resolv.conf to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[12:12] <Ex_Cyber> also, do you have an ethernet interface on your system?
[12:12] <Ex_Cyber> or any other network interface besides loopback
[12:12] <Madpilot> linux_ubuntu: I haven't used dailup in a long time, and never w/ Linux, sorry...
[12:13] <linux_ubuntu> will it be good to use linux on dial up
[12:13] <linux_ubuntu> coz there are lots of mbs data to download
[12:14] <Ex_Cyber> so far it's worked better than XP for me with this ISP, after tweaking some settings that had REALLY strange defaults in Ubuntu
[12:14] <Ex_Cyber> but this ISP isn't very good
[12:14] <Ex_Cyber> either that or something is wrong with my brother's modem
[12:15] <Ex_Cyber> but if you want to do full updates and such prepare to be waiting a while
[12:15] <linux_ubuntu> it will take long time to download from web
[12:15] <Ex_Cyber> if you have an unmetered connection you can probably learn to cope
[12:15] <linux_ubuntu> this is 56k modem
[12:15] <Ex_Cyber> I usually browse with images turned off to speed things up... you don't *need* to do that if your connection is decent, but it helps
[12:16] <stretched_lobes> hello
[12:16] <Ex_Cyber> I just need to do it because performance is really inconsistent on my connection
[12:16] <DocTomoe> linux_ubuntu: so what? Windows Up^MPatches are hardly small :)
[12:16] <linux_ubuntu> some one told me tweak DNS setting . have any idea?
[12:17] <jtan325> does anyone here know anything about maintaining debian/ubuntu packages?
[12:17] <stretched_lobes> i am having a problem configuring my router/phone adapter that came with vonage
[12:17] <DocTomoe> linux_ubuntu: How long have you used linux? Changing DNS is something beginners should not do.
[12:17] <stretched_lobes> what tools if any do i neetd to fix this
[12:17] <Ng> DocTomoe: ?!
[12:17] <linux_ubuntu> its been a week now
[12:17] <Madpilot> jtan325: might want to ask on ubuntu-devel
[12:18] <jtan325> Madpilot, i asked on ubuntu-motu
[12:18] <Ng> DocTomoe: are you saying editing a small file, or using a gui program is beyond a new user?
[12:18] <jtan325> not getting a word...
[12:18] <jtan325> like when i ask any n00b question, politely
[12:18] <jtan325> i seem to be ignored :-(
[12:18] <morbidi> jtan325: ask
[12:18] <DocTomoe> Ng: I am saying changing system-critical files without an idea what may happen is not a good thing to do
[12:18] <jtan325> morbidi, i am building a package for a pretty simple program
[12:18] <chrys_seren> hi
[12:18] <Madpilot> jtan325: ah, OK. not sure what the difference is between -motu and -devel - but somebody here might know anyway...
[12:18] <jtan325> i am following the new maintainer's guide
[12:19] <Ng> DocTomoe: DNS isn't that system-critical and it's clearly broken already
[12:19] <jtan325> and i have reached the chapter on building
[12:19] <jtan325> now, i think i've done all the steps correctly
[12:19] <Ex_Cyber> DocTomoe: yeah, if he edits /etc/resolv.conf his name resolution might break... :/
[12:19] <morbidi> jtan325: that's not a n00b question
[12:19] <jtan325> lol
[12:19] <jtan325> just wait
[12:19] <chrys_seren> i upgraded *something* (linux-headers?) yesterday together with a small unrelated install -- thought it was a security update...
[12:19] <morbidi> I never made a package
[12:19] <zaphands> Anyone undestands the iptables?
[12:19] <chrys_seren> and now have a kernel panic on my hands:
[12:19] <stretched_lobes> I have a networking area and also network tools on the system
[12:19] <jtan325> set up my rules, my control, my copyright
[12:20] <DocTomoe> Ex_Cyber: linux_ubuntu states that he has one mere week of experience with linux. do you think that this level of beginner should really work as root?
[12:20] <stretched_lobes> any other programs to help
[12:20] <Ng> zaphands: probably several of us
[12:20] <DocTomoe> probably he even has not any clue of the shell.
[12:20] <chrys_seren> (reiser fs on /dev/hd6, i think, unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)
[12:20] <Ng> DocTomoe: if he wants his DNS to work, I reckon it'd be a good start
[12:20] <morbidi> zaphands: ask
[12:20] <Ex_Cyber> DocTomoe: considering that the alternative is to not have a system that is useful, yes
[12:20] <zaphands> I can't access the LAN after activating firestarter
[12:20] <Ng> deactivate firestarter then ;)
[12:21] <penny> ...
[12:21] <DocTomoe> Ng: He states that his connection is slow. he also states that his system uses a 56k modem. I do not see how fucking up the DNS configuration can solve this.
[12:21] <Ng> zaphands: can you ping anything on the LAN after? and can anything else on the lan ping you?
[12:21] <Madpilot> later, everyone
[12:21] <zaphands> Ng: ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[12:21] <Ex_Cyber> DocTomoe: he says that he can't get his browser to resolve addresses
[12:22] <penny> ping loopback,localhost,getway and ...
[12:22] <penny> traceroute
[12:22] <Ex_Cyber> in any case, I asked to see resolv.conf, I did not suggest editing it blindly
[12:22] <Ng> DocTomoe: well I wasn't paying all that much attention, but I'm pretty sure he was saying he couldn't resolve things, so it's not working and slow, it's broken. also there's no need to swear
[12:22] <jtan325> the problem i am running into, when i do "debuild -us -uc", is i get stuff about
[12:22] <Ng> zaphands: sudo ping then ;)
[12:23] <DocTomoe> My wrong, *that* info I didn't get.
[12:23] <jtan325> cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub
[12:23] <jtan325> cp: `/usr/share/misc/config.sub' and `config.sub' are the same file
[12:23] <jtan325> make: *** [clean]  Error 1
[12:23] <jtan325> and i can't figure out what i'm doing wrong
[12:23] <penny> ...
[12:23] <penny> ......
[12:24] <Ng> jtan325: do you have a config.sub symlink in your source tree?
[12:24] <jtan325> i think so?
[12:24] <jtan325> yes
[12:24] <zaphands> Ng: Would you care to look at my `iptables -L`? (i'll paste it to #flood)
[12:25] <linux_ubuntu> my firefox is not recognising my dialup connection
[12:25] <linux_ubuntu> so no browsing
[12:25] <morbidi> linux_ubuntu: can you ping something ?
[12:25] <ndlovu> I'm trying to install java, but apt can't find the package (E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5). Wrong repositories?
[12:25] <linux_ubuntu> i tried dig www.google.com
[12:26] <jtan325> Ng, did you have an idea about it?
[12:26] <linux_ubuntu> it said some dns error
[12:26] <Ng> zaphands: could you use pastebin instead?
[12:26] <zaphands> Ng: sure
[12:26] <Ng> jtan325: I'm just wondering if your source has a config.sub symlink to /usr/share whatever, if so rm it
[12:26] <ndlovu> have checked the wiki and ubuntuguide and followed those instructions
[12:26] <jtan325> my program does have to run aclocal, libtoolize, autoheader, automake, and autoconf before the "./configure"
[12:27] <linux_ubuntu> i tried apt-get update and it go well
[12:27] <jtan325> Ng, yeah i will try that
[12:27] <jamal> halo kenalan dong
[12:27] <chrys_seren> all right, i'll boot from cd and have a look at the grub's menu.lst, but if it doesn't work, i'll be back.
[12:27] <zaphands> Ng: Is it #pastebin?
[12:28] <Ex_Cyber> linux_ubuntu: if the update really happened it should take at least a few minutes on dialup
[12:28] <Wilf> how do i go about making ubuntu run fluxbox?
[12:28] <ApellA> good afternoon
[12:28] <Wilf> !fluxbox
[12:28] <ubotu> Wilf: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:28] <Wilf> :(
[12:28] <apokryphos> Wilf: install it?
[12:28] <Ng> zaphands: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[12:28] <linux_ubuntu> yes it did good for some time
[12:28] <jamal> halo
[12:28] <Wilf> apokryphos, is it that easy?
[12:29] <apokryphos> Wilf: probably
[12:29] <ApellA> wilf: never tought about it? :)
[12:29] <Wilf> gnome on a P1 166 with 96mb of ram is bad
[12:29] <ApellA> wilf: if it doesnt work, just deinstall it again, and gone is that problem:)
[12:30] <apokryphos> Wilf: thoreauputic is the one to ask ;-)
[12:30] <Wilf> he is good
[12:30] <Wilf> or she
[12:30] <kemik> Wilf:  use IceWm on such slow system
[12:30] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: no factoid for fluxbox? :/
[12:30] <Wilf> IceWM?
[12:30] <Wilf> ok
[12:30] <kemik> Wilf:  im running icewm on my p2-233 64mb ram laptop
[12:30] <zaphands> Ng: Done.
[12:30] <Wilf> is it better for slower systems?
[12:30] <kemik> Wilf:  icewm is designed to use as little resources as possible
[12:31] <ApellA> anyone knows something about scripting? I would like to make a scipt that shuts down esd just by using a click instead of allways going to the menu and so on
[12:31] <Wilf> ah, i'll use that then
[12:31] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: the hoary package for fluxbox has... some issues
[12:31] <kemik> "The goal of IceWM is speed, simplicity, and not getting in the user's way."
[12:31] <linux_ubuntu> does anyone have answer for me?
[12:31] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: usable?
[12:31] <Wilf> can i just install it?
[12:31] <ndlovu> does anyone know why java's not in the repositories (sun-j2re1.5)?
[12:32] <kemik> ApellA:  touch killesd.sh ; echo "sudo killall esd" ; chmod a+x killesd.sh ;  perhaps. ;)
[12:32] <ApellA> linux_ubuntu: what is your question? (came in only later
[12:32] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: for some people it works fine, others have troubles: the answer is to recompile using --disable-xmb
[12:32] <kemik> ndlovu:  licensing issues i think
[12:32] <ApellA> kemik: thx
[12:33] <kemik> oh.. that echo line is wrong of course
[12:33] <Ex_Cyber> linux_ubuntu: do you have any other networking interfaces on your system?
[12:33] <ndlovu> kemik: is that a new development? I know I've installed it on a computer less than a week ago
[12:33] <kemik> echo "sudo killall esd" > killesd.sh
[12:33] <ApellA> ok, i'm not really getting it:)
[12:33] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: it's in hoary-extras, but the mirror ahd an inaccurate Packages.gz a few hours ago
[12:34] <kemik> ndlovu:  jre is in some repository not the official ones
[12:34] <thoreauputic> !get java
[12:34] <ubotu> thoreauputic: I haven't a clue
[12:34] <thoreauputic> hah
[12:34] <Ng> zaphands: did it give you a url to give me so I can see it? ;)
[12:34] <thoreauputic> bob2 must have wiped his factoid
[12:34] <ndlovu> thoreauputic: thanks, so in other words just wait for a while until it comes back?
[12:35] <Ng> zaphands: actually, never mind, I found it
[12:35] <zaphands> Ng: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/344885
[12:35] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: do you have hoary-extras ? If so yes
[12:35] <HrdwrBoB> !java
[12:35] <ubotu> java is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[12:35] <Ng> zaphands: :)
[12:35] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: the other way is to download the deb directly with wget
[12:35] <ndlovu> kemik: I have all the unofficial repositories installed, so it should be there.
[12:35] <thoreauputic> HrdwrBoB: the repo has a problem
[12:36] <kemik> ndlovu:  follow the guide ubotu opsted
[12:36] <kemik> oh
[12:36] <kemik> or listen to thoreauputic
[12:36] <HrdwrBoB> thoreauputic: ah
[12:36] <ndlovu> thoreauputic: but won't that possibly give issues in the future with upgrades and the like?
[12:36] <Ng> zaphands: my first reaction is that firestarter is junk, but let me read on ;)
[12:36] <thoreauputic> ... unless it's been fixed
[12:36] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: I meant d/l it from the repo itself
[12:37] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: same deb..
[12:37] <thoreauputic> Ng: firestarter is fine: PEBCAK
[12:38] <HrdwrBoB> my first reaction to firestarter is: why are you bothering
[12:38] <ApellA> kemik: sorry for being such a pain in the ass (:)) but could you plz give the command again (correct) cause it doesnt really work:)
[12:38] <zaphands> Is there a better firewall gui?
[12:39] <ndlovu> thoreauputic: thanks for the advice. will wait a few hours and if it's still not there will try wget.
[12:39] <Ng> thoreauputic: does it not do stateful firewalls though? I can construct the same firewall as this by hand in a very few lines :)
[12:39] <Ng> zaphands: I tend to believe that the only way is to do it by hand, but I appreciate that that is too complex for many people to be bothered with
[12:39] <thoreauputic> Ng: I wasn't commenting on elegance ;) Just that it works...
[12:39] <Ng> zaphands: I'd suggest setting your OUTPUT policy to ACCEPt, there's usually little point bothering with output rules
[12:40] <ApellA> kemik: sorry for being such a pain in the ass (:)) but could you plz give the command again (correct) cause it doesnt really work:)
[12:41] <ApellA> wow, suddenly, it all was quit
[12:41] <zaphands> Ng: How do I do that?
[12:42] <Ng> zaphands: I'm afraid I don't know firestarter. the iptables command would be "sudo iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT"
[12:42] <zaphands> Ng: Got it. nevermind.
[12:42] <why-oh-why> Hi!  How can I reboot your computer remotely on Solaris?
[12:43] <TraceGreen> Hello, if i boot linux with bootsplash, then, i will find /proc/splash, is it right?
[12:43] <thoreauputic> why-oh-why: erm, ssh ubuntu.box.box ; sudo shutdown -r now  ?
[12:44] <zaphands> Ng: That is not the rule that's blocking my LAN though.
[12:45] <Ng> zaphands: you'll probably need to add a rule allowing your lan ip range access
[12:45] <zaphands> Ng: Did I say I use two network interfaces? eth0 for modem and eth1 for LAN?
[12:47] <zaphands> Ng: ACCEPT     all  --  <IP_ADDRESS>          anywhere
[12:47] <zaphands> ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:47] <zaphands>  Doesn't work. :-S
[12:47] <thoreauputic> zaphands: in the policy tab of firestarter you should be able to right-click in the policy fields to add rules... Maybe easier than hacking iptables for you (or me for that matter ;) )
[12:47] <Ng> zaphands: well I don't know then, it's a firestarter problem
[12:48] <zaphands> Ng: How can I do it with iptables?
[12:48] <Wilf> god i'm dumb
[12:48] <Wilf> i've just downloaded the AMSN .deb
[12:48] <Wilf> how do i install it?
[12:49] <Ng> sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[12:49] <thoreauputic> Wilf: hmm - no need to do that
[12:49] <zaphands> thoreauputic: That's what I did...
[12:49] <why-oh-why> Milf?
[12:49] <NanoBCN> Wilf, not happy with Gaim?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> Wilf: amsn is in the universe repo afaik
[12:49] <Wilf> i prefer AMSN
[12:49] <Ng> zaphands: sudo iptables -I INPUT 1 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -j ACCEPT
[12:49] <Ng> zaphands: that will allow <IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS> to access your machine
[12:49] <Wilf> dpkg!
[12:49] <Wilf> it's coming back :|
[12:50] <Wilf> thanks Ng
[12:50] <bonvenon> Wilf: sudo apt-get install amsn
[12:50] <zaphands> Ng: What does the "/24" mean?
[12:50] <Ng> zaphands: the same as /<IP_ADDRESS> but in CIDR form - ie a netmask
[12:50] <thoreauputic> Wilf: why are you downloading debs? use the apt tools to get your stuff as bonvenon suggested
[12:51] <Wilf> thoreauputic, it can't find package amsn
[12:51] <Wilf> my lists must be outdated...
[12:52] <thoreauputic> Wilf: enable universe repo
[12:52] <thoreauputic> !repos
[12:52] <ubotu> methinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:52] <thoreauputic> !info amsn
[12:52] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[12:52] <Wilf> ah
[12:52] <Wilf> thanks
[12:52] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:52] <repete> Hi all
[12:52] <repete> Anyone know if the 20050823 ISO was broken?
[12:53] <Wilf> this is good
[12:53] <Wilf> so much faster then 98
[12:54] <zaphands> Ng: It's not working. How do I remove the rule?
[12:54] <Stormx> Hi Sexies
[12:54] <Ng> zaphands: same command again, but with "-D INPUT" instead of "-I INPUT 1"
[12:55] <zaphands> Ng: Maybe I need an output rule as well.
[12:56] <Ng> zaphands: the output policy should be ACCEPT really, unless you have specific need to block outbound traffic
[12:56] <ijal> GESIT
[12:57] <PPower> I am getting Bad Header Line error when connecting to the official ubuntu respritory
[12:57] <zaphands> Ng: iptables -I INPUT 1 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -j ACCEPT Worked! Thanks.
[12:57] <bilge> Hi, I have mysql server and client running, all okay, but i cannot connect to the machine remotely, my db permissions look fine. If i port scan, 3306 does not show? What do i need to do to get remote access working?
[12:57] <zaphands> Ng: Replacing INPUT=OUTPUT.
[12:58] <Stormx> bilge: Port Forward?
[12:59] <Ng> zaphands: also change -s to -d
[12:59] <Ng> (for the OUTPUT one)
[12:59] <zaphands> Ng: Will these settings be saved after reboot?
[12:59] <tahorg> anyone can tell me my 12 applets use 104MB in _RSS_ in breezy ?
[12:59] <Ng> zaphands: no
[01:00] <Ng> tahorg: how much of that is shared though?
[01:00] <tahorg> it uses about 42MB on hoary
[01:00] <Ng> also, linux memory reporting is rubbish ;)
[01:00] <Stormx> PPower: Try using the official repo list
[01:00] <Stormx> !repo
[01:00] <tahorg> Ng: RSS, which means Resident
[01:00] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Stormx
[01:00] <Stormx> !repos
[01:00] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:00] <tahorg> Ng: in virtual it's about the double
[01:00] <PPower> Stormx: I am, I used the one from the Synaptic dropdown combo
[01:01] <Stormx> PPower: You can get errors, its normal, or so Seveas told me.
[01:01] <Ng> tahorg: RSS is code and data, can not the code section include shared libraries and so on?
[01:01] <Ng> virtual is the full map, ignore it, it means nothing
[01:01] <PPower> Would I have better luck with a mirror. I have been getting these error all day and quite a lot last week.
[01:02] <zaphands> Thanks everyone! goodbye.
[01:05] <TraceGreen> Hello, what's the relationship between bootsplash and grub/lilo?
[01:06] <PPower> Are you talking about Project Bootsplash?
[01:08] <repete> TraceGreen: what are you trying to do?
[01:09] <TraceGreen> repete, i want to add bootsplash into knoppix, work just like gnoppix
[01:09] <selinium> hi all, how do you start xmms without it starting a tab on the desktop?
[01:10] <battletux> does anyone know whats going on with the repos?
[01:10] <nerdy2> battletux: something off with them?
[01:11] <battletux> yeah the backports dont seem to jave and a few other packages on them
[01:11] <selinium> battletux: I can find no issue with them
[01:11] <battletux> hmm starge
[01:11] <battletux> brb
[01:12] <thoreauputic> battletux: bob2 said the backports Packages.gz was wrong
[01:12] <thoreauputic> a few hours back anyway
[01:12] <selinium> battletux: java ?    sun-j2re1.5 ?
[01:12] <selinium> hi thoreauputic!
[01:13] <thoreauputic> hi selinium
[01:13] <PPower> TraceGreen: If you are talking about the www.bootsplash.org one then I dunno. But I would like someone to explain to me how to set up the usertools
[01:13] <Seveas> battletux/selinium, you can grab a java deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:13] <selinium> Hi Seveas, cool
[01:13] <Seveas> these packages aren't as brain-dead as the ones from hoary-extras
[01:13] <Seveas> ie: no newer libgcc needed
[01:14] <battletux> selinium yeah sorry j2rel1.5
[01:14] <TraceGreen> PPower, what do you mean?
[01:14] <PPower> Well the main server is still down: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/Release.gpg: Bad header line [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[01:14] <Seveas> PPower, I get no such problem here...
[01:14] <repete> TraceGreen: yea, sorry, bootsplash is a bit of a dark art that i never properly understood
[01:14] <PPower> TraceGreen:When you say bootsplash do you mean the one from bootsplash.org
[01:14] <Seveas> PPower, tru us.archive or se.archive if the problem persists
[01:15] <PPower> Thanks
[01:15] <TraceGreen> PPower, hes. :-)
[01:15] <repete> wasn't sure if you had a simple "how to I tell grub I want to use a bootsplash?" questions :-)
[01:15] <PPower> Well you add splash=silent or whatever to the bootline
[01:15] <TraceGreen> repete, actually, no. i want to add bootsplash to knoppix liveCD
[01:15] <repete> right, saw that...
[01:15] <PPower> Well you will have to remake the cd
[01:16] <PPower> or DVD :-)
[01:16] <Stormx> PPower: Isn't it a case of just copying the image over and editing grub?
[01:16] <repete> Is it possible to do a network install of Ubuntu?
[01:16] <repete> I'm trying to fix a failed install...
[01:17] <Stormx> Also, while anyone is here, can someone tell me why alien isn't working: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/344533
[01:17] <PPower> Stormx:Well from what it says on the webpage it involves adding the splash to the initrd and then calling up the splash from GRUB. Can anyone give me a guide to set up a splash on my box. From the bit where there is those strange commands for the init.
[01:18] <selinium> Seveas: DO you know of a way of starting xmms without it creating a tab? I want to use gxmms but it seems silly to have xmms refenced all over the shop
[01:18] <selinium> referenced*
[01:18] <thoreauputic> Stormx: because you are tring to use alien on a *tar.gz
[01:18] <Stormx> thoreauputic: >.< But seveas said you couuuld
[01:19] <thoreauputic> Stormx: only if it's a slackware package ( .tgz)
[01:19] <Seveas> 'tab'?
[01:19] <Seveas> as in: an icon in your taskbar?
[01:19] <thoreauputic> Stormx: yours is probably source code or maybe a binary - either way you need to untar it
[01:19] <Seveas> Stormx, no
[01:20] <Seveas> alien can work on .tgz - if it is a slackware package
[01:20] <Seveas> .tar.gz is impossible
[01:20] <thoreauputic> Seveas: erm.. I told him above, in case you didn't notice
[01:20] <mjr> is there an easy way to fetch all dependencies for certain packages, regardless of whether they're installed? (apt-get -d --reinstall gets the packages themselves, but no dependencies)
[01:21] <selinium> Seveas: yes the icon in the task bar. It is taking up valuable space! :)
[01:21] <mjr> (if said dependencies are installed, that is)
[01:21] <toosey> how can i prevent apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade linux-image* ?
[01:21] <battletux> Seveas: thanks for your repo, jre is now installing :)
[01:21] <n> How do I regenerate a configure file?
[01:21] <Seveas> selinium, ENOCLUE about that
[01:21] <Seveas> n, dpkg-reconfigure
[01:22] <NanoBCN> hi guys, any of you running Breezy?
[01:22] <selinium> Seveas: Cheers :)
[01:22] <repete> NanoBCN: I would be if I could get it installed :-)
[01:22] <n> seveas: umm, no. I mean I just changed some files in /conf/m4 (of some source code)
[01:23] <NanoBCN> repete, :( I can use that as an answer to what I wanted to ask...
[01:24] <Seveas> n, download the tarball again :)
[01:24] <NanoBCN> I was about to ask if breeze was mature enough to migrate already
[01:24] <repete> NanoBCN: sorry, dude. Just frustrated..
[01:24] <Seveas> NanoBCN, not if you want a stable system
[01:25] <NanoBCN> I migrated to hoary long before it was released and looked pretty stable to me
[01:25] <NanoBCN> that's why I asked
[01:25] <NanoBCN> but I guess I can wait a couple of months more
[01:27] <bonvenon> can someone help me figure out why my usb memory no longer mounts automagicly?
[01:27] <shinu> hello everyone
[01:28] <selinium> NanoBCN: People have installed it and cant even get x running
[01:28] <shinu> hwo do i check what process is still using some folder?
[01:28] <shinu> how*
[01:28] <NanoBCN> selinium, I'll wait. Thanks
[01:28] <bonvenon> I'm running hoary, but with a breezy kernel. I guess that might be the problem, but now I don't even get it to work in the old one...
[01:29] <wolki> NanoBCN: you can try the live cd to see if it works
[01:30] <selinium> wolki: Hadn't even thought about that!
[01:31] <bonvenon> anyone?!
[01:31] <NanoBCN> woki, I'm affraid it's not enough since it might change when installing it
[01:31] <NanoBCN> wolki, sorry
[01:32] <selinium> Seveas: I just auto upgraded with your repo up. It has installed transcode as well. That isn't likely to cause any trouble is it?
[01:33] <battletux> hmm it seems acroread 7 has also disappeared from the backports
[01:33] <selinium> NanoBCN: Live CD just loads into memory. it does not over right your system? Does it?
[01:33] <mwest> is it possible to do a network installation of Hoary via FTP instead of HTTP?
[01:34] <mwest> it looks like the installer is hardcoded to tag "http://" in front of the source mirror :-(
[01:34] <thoreauputic> battletux: it will still be there - the problem is the file Packages.gz is wrong so apt can't find stuff
[01:35] <Seveas> selinium, it's transcode from breezy
[01:35] <battletux> thoreauputic: that may explain also why the mirrormax servers seem down for me, thanks
[01:35] <Seveas> selinium, and the server is NOT online 24/7, so apt-get update may fail at times if you have it in your sources.list
[01:36] <toosey> how can i teach apt-get dist-upgrade not to upgrade linux-image* ?
[01:36] <Seveas> pin it
[01:36] <shinu> can mkfs.vfat make a filesystem on a drive of 20gb in 5 seconds?
[01:36] <Seveas> or put it on version lock in synaptic
[01:37] <selinium> Seveas: Does that meann it will not function. I switched the repo on when you did the wammu/gammu stuff. I switch it stright off
[01:37] <siretart> can please anyone with breezy try to open a png file with the gimp? - this fails for me because of some missing input filter
[01:37] <siretart> I cannot image which package I would miss. can someone confirm this before I make a bugreport?
[01:37] <Seveas> selinium, the server does work, I just switch the thing off at night
[01:38] <Seveas> at that time apt-get update will fail on it ;)
[01:38] <Seveas> siretart, libpng?
[01:38] <selinium> Seveas: I don't have your repo in my list all the time. I meant will the transcode work? :)
[01:38] <thoreauputic> battletux: mirrormax is pingable so it isn't actually down
[01:38] <Seveas> the transcode will work :)
[01:39] <battletux> thoreauputic: for me apt-get update wont retreve listings from thoses servers
[01:39] <siretart> Seveas: is installed.
[01:39] <thoreauputic> battletux: right, the Packages.gz is misconfigured somehow
[01:40] <battletux> oh well i'll just try in a few days see if it gets fixed
[01:40] <klien> ada yg bisa indonesia ga yah?
[01:41] <klien> help ..!!!!
[01:42] <Malin> is it ok to install ubuntu on primary slave disc or should i rather install it on primary master? [i got windows on my primary master disc]
[01:43] <selinium> battletux: acroread-plugins 7 is there. Is that what you want?
[01:44] <selinium> Malin: I had no probs installing it on the Slave
[01:44] <battletux> selinium: yeah, using acroread just installs version 5 for me
[01:44] <siretart> Malin: linux, or better grub does not have any problems with that configuration
[01:45] <siretart> Malin: I think you will need to install GRUB in the MBR, the installer will ask you this question
[01:45] <selinium> battletux: search for acroread-plugins
[01:45] <battletux> selinium: will do thanks
[01:45] <battletux> right lunch time, i'm off: thanks for all the help guys
[01:45] <Malin> siretart, it will not do any harm to my data stored on the primary master disc?
[01:46] <siretart> Malin: no, not I you don't explicitly ask to do so
[01:46] <boze> hello
[01:46] <siretart> Malin: btw, backups are ALWAYS a good idea ;)
[01:46] <selinium> time for me to do some 'real' work. See you all later!
[01:47] <snorks> can someone help me with Could not open "VA.-.Lights.In.Forest-2005-dIz-BFR.rar"
[01:47] <Malin> siretart, it's a bit hard to do 40 GB backup, isn't it? :-)
[01:47] <snorks> Archive type not supported.
[01:47] <Malin> bye selinium
[01:47] <boze> I just installed Hoary 5.04, and it never gave me an option for root password
[01:47] <selinium> cye Malin
[01:47] <selinium> cya
[01:47] <snorks> How do I add support for .rars with the interface archive extracter?
[01:47] <boze> Can anyone help me with that?
[01:47] <bimberi> boze: there isn't one, ubuntu uses sudo for superuser access
[01:48] <bimberi> ubotu: tell boze about sudo
[01:48] <boze> thats new to me, never heard of sudo
[01:48] <Malin> siretart, so i just enter install cd and then choose to format pirmary slave disc and install ubuntu there? nothing will happen to primary master?
[01:48] <snorks> boze: SuperUserDO
[01:49] <Ng> snorks: make sure you have the multiverse repository and grab rar :)
[01:49] <bonvenon> boze: your "root password" is the same as your user password
[01:49] <snorks> Ng: gotcha
[01:49] <boze> ahhh, k, thanks
[01:49] <selinium> snorks: have you installed rar?
[01:49] <selinium> snorks: Yeh do as Ng says
[01:49] <snorks> selinium: I have the added repos, but there is no rar
[01:50] <snorks> selinium: I fetched unrar yesterday
[01:50] <siretart> Malin: partman (the partitioner) will ask you for confirmation of any potential destructive actions.
[01:50] <Ng> snorks: do you definitely have multiverse?
[01:50] <Ng> I'm quite sure it's in multiverse :)
[01:50] <siretart> Malin: just read all messages carfully
[01:50] <Malin> ok
[01:50] <Ng> Filename: pool/multiverse/r/rar/rar_3.30-2_i386.deb
[01:50] <boze> thanks Bimberi and Bonvenom, thats all I needed.. ubuntu looks great so far
[01:50] <Malin> is it possible to install boot loader after installing the whole os?
[01:50] <siretart> it turns out that my png was corrupt.
[01:52] <Malin> i could just switch off the other disc, install ubuntu and then switch it on after installing
[01:52] <Malin> so i'm sure i didn't do anything stupid with my data
[01:52] <snorks> Ng: I added a repo now called hoary 5.04 multiverse (source). why is it source?
[01:52] <Seveas> snorks, you don't need the source repositories as normal user
[01:52] <Ng> snorks: you want the binary one, not the source one
[01:53] <Ng> the source repositories are only if you want the actual source code to edit/recompile
[01:53] <snorks> Ng: ok, changed it to binary, still no rar when I search for it
[01:53] <snorks> Ng: strange :/
[01:53] <Ng> have you refreshed the apt listings?
[01:53] <bimberi> snorks: did you update (or reload)
[01:54] <DjKritical> Hey I just heard about ubuntu... I only really have one question before I give it a go... does Ubuntu use Apt-get like debian?
[01:54] <bimberi> DjKritical: yes
[01:55] <DjKritical> okay and I lied.. one more question.. does Ubuntu use gnome or kde?
[01:55] <Malin> DjKritical: gnome
[01:55] <Ng> bimberi: yours uses the terms that apt/synpaptic would use, which is probably better really. either way is fine if the meaning makes it through though :)
[01:55] <bonvenon> DjKritical: gnome (as default)
[01:55] <Malin> there is also Kubuntu which uses KDE
[01:55] <bimberi> DjKritical: gnome, but there is kubuntu as well
[01:55] <snorks> bimberi: still nothing :/
[01:55] <vader1102> Gnome fot Ubuntu or KDE for Kubuntu
[01:55] <azol> hi all. my old pc has no  cdrom-drive. How can I install hoary? Is it possible to install from floppy+(ftp/http/nfs)?
[01:55] <snorks> bimberi: might be wrong multiverse rep ofcourse. Who knows
[01:55] <DjKritical> Is there a big difference? because I'm more use to KDE... but I'm a noob and willing to listen to some good advice
[01:56] <Malin> so how about that boot loader i asked a moment ago?
[01:56] <Mabus> I'm having some problems importing pictures from my digital camera... gThumb/f-Spot says "Operation not allowed" when trying to get the camera from the USB BUS. If I do 'sudo gthumb' (thus launching it as root), it works ...
[01:56] <Mabus> Any tips ?
[01:56] <Mabus> Maybe my user needs to be in a group that he's not in currently ?
[01:56] <newroz> DjKritical, i like gnome/xfce more.. it looks more proffessional..
[01:56] <thoreauputic> DJ_Mirage: if you like KDE, kubuntu is a better choice - but you can install both from apt repos
[01:57] <Ng> snorks: use http://ubuntu.pastebin.com to show us the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:57] <bonvenon> Malin: I think you will need to install grup into the mbr on the primary disk
[01:57] <bimberi> snorks: wot Ng sed :)
[01:57] <bonvenon> Malin: ...but what do I know
[01:58] <SolidRaven> hi everybody
[01:59] <snorks> Ng: http://pastebin.com/344919
[01:59] <DjKritical> newroz: okay I'm going to give it a go :D
[01:59] <LokeDK> Is there a way to run the kde konsole in gnome? I mean... it looks terrible in gnome
[01:59] <snorks> #
[01:59] <snorks> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse?
[01:59] <ivoks> any1 else having problems with USB2 and breezy?
[01:59] <SolidRaven> conclusion: never drink Active O Iced Berry, its crap, belly hurts because of it :p
[01:59] <onkarshinde> LokeDK: And why do you want to do that?
[01:59] <thoreauputic> LokeDK: some would just say it looks terrible ;)
[01:59] <LokeDK> onkarshinde, Because I like the kde konsole
[01:59] <marlene> ffg rita
[01:59] <SolidRaven> LokeDK > install KDE ;)
[01:59] <marlene> hgfdsqazerty
[01:59] <LokeDK> No I don't like kde heh
[01:59] <newroz> LokeDK, there is a gtk-qt engine ..
[01:59] <SolidRaven> it isn't that hard :)
[01:59] <marlene> azertyazertyazertyazertyazerty
[01:59] <SolidRaven> eventough i needed to reinstall ubuntu after trying but that is just because i am a newb
[01:59] <marlene> tytytyttytytytyytytttttttttttytytytyyyyyyyyyyyty
[01:59] <Selekta> when synaptic says foo cannot be installed
[01:59] <Selekta> what does this mean?
[02:00] <Selekta> like, the dependancies
[02:00] <jamey> Can someone give me some pointers as to how can I promote FOSS?
[02:00] <bonvenon> ivoks: I do, sort of
[02:00] <thoreauputic> LokeDK: use gnome-terminal in gnome - you can customise it to look as you wish
[02:00] <Selekta> for the dependancies
[02:00] <marlene> azzeretrttttyyyyyyyyuuuuiuopo$$^$$$$$
[02:00] <bimberi> marlene: please stop that
[02:00] <marlene> ***************************************************************************************************************************************************************
[02:00] <Selekta> it says blah is selected, blah cannot be installed
[02:00] <ixiz> what is wrong with my soundcard? If I try to open a .mp3 in xmms I just get, could not open audio, and it won't play either in any other music player
[02:00] <thoreauputic> marlene: enough
[02:00] <Ng> snorks: mental, no idea, but you can grab the .deb directly from http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/utils/rar
[02:00] <marlene> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiioooooooooooooooooooo
[02:00] <Ng> any ops around?  I don't know exactly which one.
[02:01] <Ng> snorks: I gave up on that and went back to the i386 tree so things actually worked ;)
[02:01] <bonvenon> ivoks: I actually run hoary, but with the breezy kernel. my usb flash memory doesn't mount automaticly
[02:01] <marlene> wat so name please ?
[02:01] <ixiz> onkarshinde: I did install the libmad and gstreamer0.8-mad0 plugin and the ffmpeg and those
[02:02] <snorks> Ng: ouchie :( amd64 can't extract .rars?
[02:02] <ivoks> bonvenon: ok
[02:02] <bonvenon> ivoks: ...and if I mount it with pmount it's very slow
[02:02] <Ng> snorks: it probably can, you could force the package to install and it'll probably still work ok
[02:02] <ivoks> bonvenon: usb1, right?
[02:02] <Selekta> let me rephrase this better :P
[02:02] <Selekta> that mode no sence
[02:02] <Selekta> in synaptic, when you choose a program, and it needs dependancies, it says some of these dependancies are not installable...what does this mean?
[02:02] <bonvenon> ivoks: usb1 speed maybe, but it's an usb2 device
[02:02] <ivoks> none of my usb2 devices aren't recognized as USB2
[02:03] <bonvenon> ivoks: ok. I see
[02:03] <ivoks> bonvenon: dmesg will tell you
[02:03] <Selekta> amsn runs on ubuntu. it's a known fact
[02:03] <SolidRaven> didn't they release the source of the unrar files?
[02:03] <ivoks> bonvenon: if it says something like: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[02:03] <ivoks> bonvenon: then it's connected via usba (ubci_hcd)
[02:03] <Ng> Selekta: either there is some kind of conflict, a missing package, you need to refresh your package lists or something like that, if you could try it from a terminal with apt-get you'll get a more descriptive error
[02:03] <ivoks> bonvenon: if it's USB2, it should say ehci_hcd
[02:03] <Luna-Tick> Hello  everyone :). Does anyone else have problems with all the flash plugins
[02:03] <Selekta> ok, thanks ng :)
[02:04] <Luna-Tick> None of them seem perfect - no sound and sometimes missing the right hand side etc.
[02:04] <bonvenon> ivoks: hmmm... I don't think we have the same problem after all: "---new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd..."
[02:04] <onkarshinde> ixiz: Did you try this instruction. You sure you didn't miss any package? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=mp3#head-d67b20adc8d30f9d239222912aeb42f2e456b36b
[02:05] <cihad_> ji
[02:05] <phreakysz> hi
[02:05] <linukso> Hi! Has anyone got a pcmcia mmc card reader/writer working with ubuntu? I need one and wonder if anyone can recommend one...
[02:05] <cihad_> selam
[02:05] <snorks> Ng: do you know what the force flag is?
[02:05] <snorks> Ng: for dpkg
[02:06] <Ng> snorks: I think --force-architecture
[02:06] <ivoks> bonvenon: ok then
[02:06] <SolidRaven> linukso > give a bit more detailed info over t hat reader / writer
[02:06] <snorks> Ng: ok ill try. thanks
[02:06] <ixiz> onkarshinde: yes I did, and I did this one too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary?highlight=%28Sound%29
[02:06] <bonvenon> ivoks: but it's still very slow
[02:06] <Ng> snorks: check you have ia32-libs package installed too
[02:06] <SolidRaven> maybe i can find some drivers, have nothing beter to do
[02:06] <snorks> Ng: correct
[02:06] <ixiz> that's why I don't understand why it does not work
[02:06] <snorks> Ng: I think I get errors on that one when trying to upgrade my system
[02:06] <phreakysz> does anyone know how to get phpmyadmin running from the repos?
[02:07] <phreakysz> do i need to manually alias apache?
[02:07] <onkarshinde> ixiz: And are other formats working? If you are using xmms which output plugin is selected?
[02:07] <snorks> Ng: Well I didn't get any "archive not supported" yet :)
[02:07] <Luna-Tick> Thanks anyway, guys :). I'll be off
[02:07] <Luna-Tick> Ciao
[02:07] <SolidRaven> a little question, if i get a new motherboard and cpu, will need to change the ubuntu configuration?
[02:07] <linukso> SolidRaven: I haven't found any yet, just asked if anyone got one to recommend.
[02:07] <SolidRaven> i oh
[02:08] <_SWAT_> I've had this problem a few times know. I think it happens when my PC is on for a week or so. Then suddenly, when I hold a "k"button down, it's only printed once (instead of lots of k's). Anyone any idea how to fix it?
[02:08] <jtan325> hi does anyone here know a bit about debian packaging?
[02:08] <bonvenon> phreakysz: I think you just need to apt-get install it. it will end up in /var/www/phpmyadmin
[02:08] <Ng> snorks: hehe, good good
[02:08] <ixiz> onkarshinde: I use esd in xmms
[02:08] <bonvenon> phreakysz: at least I can't remember I did anything more
[02:08] <ixiz> onkarshinde: Now I can play them in music player for some odd reason, but still not in xmms which is what I want
[02:08] <snorks> Ng: it worked :) thanks a bunch mate
[02:08] <phreakysz> yes, you're right
[02:08] <Ng> jtan325: tried #ubuntu-devel?
[02:08] <phreakysz> i see it nw
[02:08] <Ng> snorks: no probs :)
[02:09] <onkarshinde> ixiz: hmmm. Sorry then I have only this knowledge about it. Can't help you.
[02:09] <jtan325> Ng, ok
[02:09] <phreakysz> tnx
[02:09] <kaptaink> #gnome
[02:09] <ixiz> onkarshinde: it works if I choose the alsa driver
[02:09] <ixiz> :S
[02:09] <kaptaink> #gnome
[02:09] <kaptaink> hello, is it possible to password protect selected folders in ubuntu without setting up multiple accounts?
[02:09] <ixiz> but ubuntu wiki said that esd was the default one strange
[02:10] <onkarshinde> ixiz: make sure that esd server has started. You can choose it to start at machine startup from Preferences.
[02:11] <clem_yeats> kaptaink : why not using multiple accounts ?
[02:11] <SolidRaven> clem_yeats > because that maybe gets messy ?
[02:11] <kaptaink> yes
[02:11] <clem_yeats> what ??
[02:11] <kaptaink> too many multiple accounts
[02:11] <SolidRaven> eventough the user acount limit is one bilion if i remember right :p
[02:12] <kaptaink> is there any other way?
[02:12] <ixiz> onkarshinde: preferences and then what?
[02:12] <SolidRaven> kaptaink > what filesystem?
[02:12] <kaptaink> ubuntu
[02:12] <Brazilian> hi
[02:12] <kaptaink> gnome
[02:12] <nerdy2> you could always encrypt them or such (gpg)
[02:12] <clem_yeats> kaptaink : do you have more than one person per account ???
[02:12] <kaptaink> yes
[02:12] <onkarshinde> ixiz: I think it should be Preferences-?Sound
[02:12] <Brazilian> For those who know hollycow: have you seen here lately?
[02:12] <clem_yeats> kaptaink : this IS messy.
[02:12] <kaptaink> myself and a friend
[02:13] <onkarshinde> ixiz: I mean Preferences->Sound
[02:13] <nerdy2> kaptaink: why not give your friend his own account?
[02:13] <kaptaink> is (gpg) a good way to go?
[02:13] <ixiz> onkarshinde: 'enable sound server at startup' was marked
[02:13] <SolidRaven> kind a
[02:13] <snorks> ixiz: remove it like the pest
[02:13] <SolidRaven> you need the key to decode it
[02:13] <kaptaink> any better alternatives?
[02:13] <clem_yeats> kaptaink : the permission and user management in unix is a tremendous thing, but you need to respect one_person=one_account
[02:13] <ixiz> onkarshinde: but thx anyway it's not that important now that I can play music :)
[02:13] <snorks> ixiz: alsaoutput > all
[02:13] <Brazilian> For those who knows hollycow: have you seen him here lately?
[02:14] <nerdy2> kaptaink: the good way to go would be to have two accounts, one for you and your friend, and then to give appropriate group permissions to whatever you wish to share
[02:14] <clem_yeats> exactly
[02:14] <fl> hi and good day :-)
[02:14] <ixiz> snorks: what you mean?
[02:14] <kaptaink> ok, i guess i could do that
[02:14] <kaptaink> thanx again
[02:15] <Brazilian> anybody know hollycow?
[02:15] <nerdy2> kaptaink: this has many advantages over having the same account  [in addition to not being able to see your porn,  he also can't screw up your desktop,  or your precious work files :)]
[02:15] <snorks> ixiz: esound is slow
[02:15] <snorks> ixiz: using alsa-output is in most cases always better
[02:15] <phreakysz> i would like to run mod_rewrite on the server, but im not sure how to this on a debian distro
[02:15] <ixiz> snorks: well then I should be fine :)
[02:15] <kaptaink> thankyou nerdy2
[02:15] <snorks> oh
[02:16] <clem_yeats> kaptaink : do you have root access ?
[02:16] <SolidRaven> nerdy2 > porn > desktop files :P
[02:16] <kaptaink> yes
[02:16] <SolidRaven> i mean nerdy2:
[02:16] <SolidRaven> :p
[02:16] <DjKritical> stoopid question... whats the url for ubuntu? o_O
[02:16] <fl> all: did you ever see boot issues with isolinux when using CD-RW as opposed to CD-R?
[02:16] <SolidRaven> frikin autonickname script :p
[02:16] <nerdy2> heh
[02:16] <clem_yeats> kaptaink : then the best solution is to create an account for your friend and to change your own password.
[02:16] <SolidRaven> pr0n > desktopfiles
[02:17] <kaptaink> lol, ok so much help...i should be able to go on from here
[02:17] <nerdy2> SolidRaven: we all have to have priorities :)
[02:17] <SolidRaven> btw, you keep those on a flash drive :p
[02:17] <SolidRaven> nerdy2 > like trying to get ndiswrapper to work once
[02:17] <thoreauputic> !ubuntu
[02:17] <ubotu> I heard ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[02:18] <SolidRaven> but concluding that the drivers are realy bad
[02:18] <nerdy2> SolidRaven: heh  fortunately never messed with that
[02:18] <kaptaink> ndiswrapper was so hard to set up
[02:18] <kaptaink> i use a netgear 311v2
[02:18] <kaptaink> but once u learn its easy to setup again
[02:19] <nerdy2> i have an ipw2200,  which i am happy with  [modulo the firmware blob]
[02:19] <SolidRaven> Kaloz > here it crashes when i do modprobe ndiswrapper ;)
[02:19] <SolidRaven> i mean kaptaink
[02:19] <ekimus_> anyone knows where the $PATH is initially set on the live cd?
[02:20] <nerdy2> ekimus_: not in /etc/profile?
[02:20] <kaptaink> ah, sorry im just a noobie and wouldnt know how to help you SolidRaven
[02:20] <kaptaink> i followed the ubuntu ndiswrapper guide
[02:20] <clem_yeats> SolidRaven: does the ndiswrapper -l says everything's fine ?
[02:21] <ekimus_> nerdy2: damn too easy. reamstering damages my brain :)
[02:21] <SolidRaven> yes clem_yeats
[02:21] <SolidRaven> it even says hardware is connected
[02:21] <kaptaink> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation is very helpful
[02:22] <SolidRaven> i did that ;)
[02:22] <clem_yeats> SolidRaven : did you follow the ndiswrapper guide on their website ? finding your PCID and all.. ?
[02:22] <SolidRaven> i got the right drivers
[02:22] <clem_yeats> SolidRaven : was there only one set of drivers on the LIST page for your PCID ?
[02:22] <kaptaink> ndiswrapper -l should show the status of ur installed driver
[02:22] <SolidRaven> ndiswrapper says this: sis136u driver present, hardware present
[02:22] <markrian> Does anyone know how to get Gossip to make use of a transport?
[02:22] <SolidRaven> only modprobe fails
[02:23] <clem_yeats> SolidRaven: find your PCID, and see if there are other drivers for it on the "LIST" page of ndiswrapper.
[02:24] <phreakysz> hi
[02:24] <phreakysz> i cant find apache in the processmanager, but its still running
[02:24] <SolidRaven> clem_yeats > its a crappy topcom USB skyr@cer V2 54mbps
[02:24] <persia> Mounting /boot fails for me about 80% of the time, with the message "/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lib0: p1".  I'm not finding anything useful on google.  Anyone have any ideas?
[02:24] <SolidRaven> and topcom doesn't want to give me the source code of their frikin drivers
[02:24] <SolidRaven> the bitches
[02:25] <clem_yeats> SolidRaven : try the PCID thing..
[02:25] <SolidRaven> were do i find out that pcid?
[02:25] <pao> persia, are U sure that's the complete error message'
[02:25] <pao> persia, ?
[02:25] <clem_yeats> well you can read the ndiswrapper site for a start...
[02:26] <kaptaink> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu   this link should be more helpful
[02:26] <kaptaink> it relates directly to ubuntu gnome
[02:26] <pao> how do I cleanly start a custom service at startup? is there any rc.local script?
[02:26] <persia> pao: That's the entry in dmesg and syslog.  Nothing prints to console.  In both cases, the time since boot preceeds the actual error.  Note that within a single boot cycle it may work, as long as I wait enough.
[02:27] <pao> persia, that's not an error message :-(
[02:28] <persia> pao: Add a file to /etc/init.d/ using start-stop-daemon.  Link this to /etc/rc?.d with a name like S99foo (for /etc/init.d/foo), and a sequence number indicating when you want it to start.
[02:28] <persia> pao: Well then, /boot doesn't mount without an error message.  Any ideas?
[02:28] <pao> persia, thanks... I was looking for a shortcut to that solution ;-)
[02:28] <SolidRaven> kaptaink > don't you need to do modprobe to get them to work :S
[02:28] <pao> persia, ... you said it hangs while trying to mount?
[02:29] <kaptaink> Solid Raven - yes
[02:29] <pao> persia, could you show me your fstab?
[02:30] <SolidRaven> then i might have a chance :)
[02:30] <persia> pao: nothing hangs, just that message shows in dmesg, `ls /boot` returns nothing,  /proc/mounts fails to show an entry, and new files get stored on the / partition.
[02:30] <kaptaink> hope that helps
[02:30] <persia> pao: see #flood
[02:31] <SolidRaven> mhh, now i need to get dhcp working by wireless :|
[02:32] <ntoll> damn... can't find it on the web site... whats the name of the dummy package to install thedevelopment tools such as gcc etc etc
[02:32] <persia> ntoll: build-essential covers most of that
[02:33] <ntoll> persia, aha... thats the one
[02:33] <ntoll> !
[02:33] <ubotu> ntoll: Are you on ritalin?
[02:33] <ntoll> thx
[02:33] <pao> persia, ... relevant dmesg...
[02:33] <ntoll> ritalin?
[02:34] <ntoll> ubotu, I'm on a comfy chair infront of my new breezy install... :-P
[02:34] <ubotu> ntoll: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:34] <thoreauputic> !tell ntoll about ubotu
[02:34] <ntoll> heh
[02:35] <pao> persia, the message is repeated... right?
[02:35] <pao> seems to be an hw problem detecting your ide disk...
[02:35] <b3r0xX> hey
[02:35] <persia> pao: yes, it's repeated.  Some of that is me, and some the boot process.
[02:36] <pao> persia, when it does not mount try issueing mount -av
[02:36] <pao> penguin_roar, what happens?
[02:36] <persia> pao: Alas, if it's hardware, I'll have to investigate otherwise.  Just for fun, I'm pasting a shortcut for /etc/init.d/foo to #flood.
[02:36] <pao> persia, does there exist the ugly, old rc.local :-(?
[02:39] <persia> pao: Thanks.  I'll try that.
[02:40] <ncp_> how is ubuntu with postfix? i have only used debian stable before, so dont know how good it works
[02:42] <thoreauputic> ncp_: you know postfix is the default MTA in ubuntu, right ?
[02:42] <TraceGreen> Can anybody help me with my bootsplash?
[02:43] <TraceGreen> when i boot, just black screen, and after start x, i check /proc/splash, it show:
[02:43] <TraceGreen> "plash screen v3.1.6-2004/03/31 (0xf0, 640x480): off"
[02:43] <ncp_> thomerz, no, never used it before, im reading about ubuntu an it seems to like debian but alot faster with updates?
[02:44] <ncp_> be like*
[02:44] <thoreauputic> ncp_: very similar, but with a freeze/ new release every 6 months
[02:45] <paines> hi
[02:45] <Kokoro> Hi
[02:45] <ncp_> thomerz, what are the main defferences between debian and ubuntu?
[02:46] <paines> anyone know why "~" is only printed when pressing it the second time. german keyboard layout
[02:46] <SolidRaven> kaptaink > going to try it out now
[02:46] <thoreauputic> ncp_: mainly the release model - and more desktop focus
[02:46] <GoClick> What's the difference between the server install and the regular install on 5.04?
[02:46] <kaptaink> good did u visit the ndiswrapper ubuntu specific site?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> GoClick: the server install just installs the base system - no X or gnome
[02:47] <GoClick> Interesting
[02:47] <ncp_> thomerz, du you have any experince with ubuntu as server? just wanne know if theres any reason to switch to ubuntu instead of debian
[02:48] <sweatybob> anyone give me a hand with partition magic?
[02:48] <thoreauputic> ncp_: I don't, no
[02:48] <No1Viking> Hello. I have a mutimachine and wonder if it's possible to set up in Ubuntu. The machine is a Brother MFC890.
[02:48] <fl> paines, you probably have the germen keyboar _with_ "dead keys"
[02:48] <kaptaink> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[02:48] <Erlenmayr> where do i find the mc in ubuntu apt?
[02:48] <paines> fl, ah okay. will check it
[02:48] <thoreauputic> !info mc
[02:48] <GoClick> Does Ubuntu come with a hardware diagnostic tool of some kind? We bought some hardware for a desktop here and it poops out all the time while doing stuff, usually while installing actually tho it has made it (it's a test system rigth now so it's hard Linux installed like 5 times this week)
[02:48] <ubotu> mc: (Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre1-3ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1912 kB, Installed size: 5340 kB
[02:48] <paines> fl, thanks
[02:49] <thoreauputic> Erlenmayr: you need to enable the universe repository
[02:49] <Erlenmayr> apt-get install mc says, there is no package available
[02:49] <Erlenmayr> how do i do this in textmode only?
[02:49] <ubuntu> #ubuntu channel
[02:49] <ubuntu> hi
[02:49] <ncp_> Erlenmayr, you need to edit your /etc/apt/sourcelist
[02:49] <fl> paines, are you using Gnome?
[02:49] <Rockett18> mc is sweet
[02:49] <paines> fl, no gnome
[02:49] <GoClick> textmode sounds so much more friendly than "command line interface".
[02:50] <ubuntu> i would like to know how to run ubuntu in qemu
[02:50] <paines> fl, ups. hahha. i mean kde
[02:50] <ncp_> Erlenmayr, after you have done that, type "apt-get update" an "apt-get install mc" in a terminal
[02:50] <No1Viking> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[02:50] <No1Viking>   mc
[02:50] <No1Viking> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:50] <No1Viking> Need to get 1959kB of archives.
[02:52] <Kokoro> Does anyone here use dosbox?
[02:52] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: there's aqemu howto on the wiki
[02:52] <Erlenmayr> thx
[02:52] <Erlenmayr> ncp_, ok, thx, it works alright now
[02:54] <ubuntu> thx on wiki
[02:55] <ubuntu> btw
[02:55] <ubuntu> whats wiki
[02:55] <snorks> encyclopedia
[02:56] <Kyynara_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[02:56] <ntoll> okay... Realplayer.... I've found realplayer8 in apt repositories... but not Raelplayer 10
[02:56] <ntoll> wiki != encyclopedia. Wiki is user editable web site
[02:56] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: a wiki is a website that anyone can edit, in simple terms
[02:56] <GoClick> How big is the Ubuntu install and is there a way to make it smaller?
[02:56] <ubuntu> excuse me
[02:56] <fl> paines, hehe. *Very* funny. in KDE, this should be in the KDE control panel :-) try to add Option "XkbVariant"  "nodeadkeys" to the Device section of your keyboard
[02:57] <ntoll> Wikipedia (the most famous wiki) is an online wiki encyclopedia
[02:57] <ubuntu> it says that the qemu page cant be found
[02:57] <pancho_> Hello all