[11:15] <fudgey> have you played starcraft?
[11:15] <fudgey> or any blizzard game?
[11:15] <pointfivezero> yep, many moons ago
[11:15] <pointfivezero> yeah I have diable II installed on here
[11:15] <fudgey> you knwo you need the cd to play?
[11:15] <pointfivezero> yeah, use a nocd patch aye
[11:15] <fudgey> what if there is nun?
[11:15] <fudgey> and its like another program
[11:16] <pointfivezero> erm, does the cd work ?
[11:16] <whiz2_> ok I've made a little progress, but I've reached another obstacle
[11:16] <fudgey> cd works
[11:16] <Eltran> hello
[11:16] <Eltran> I have a problem while I'm compiling LMMS
[11:16] <fudgey> im trying to install some kind of server tool
[11:16] <Eltran> I always get this message when I try make
[11:16] <Eltran> plugins/organic/Makefile.am:29: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
[11:16] <fudgey> that requires a cd to run
[11:16] <fudgey> but it cant find the cd
[11:16] <Eltran> what can I do pls
[11:17] <Eltran> The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
[11:17] <whiz2_> trying to get vncserver to run as my user (not as root) on boot. have made a script that runs vncserver on boot, and put that script into /etc/init.d then made it executable, but it still runs it as root.
[11:17] <pointfivezero> hmm
[11:17] <whiz2_> is there a way to make it run as my user without stopping to prompt for a password?
[11:17] <fudgey> its like trying to run starcraft without a cd
[11:17] <fudgey> no cd patch
[11:18] <pointfivezero> ah, you need the cd to start off with aye
[11:18] <fudgey> yeah
[11:18] <fudgey> I ment without the no cd patch
[11:19] <fudgey> ahh nvm
[11:19] <fudgey> its like trying to fix wine
[11:19] <fudgey> haha
[11:20] <fudgey> if your a developer than yeah...
[11:20] <whiz2_> can anyone help me here?
[11:20] <MuJ> which reminds me..
[11:20] <pointfivezero> try http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=51
[11:20] <MuJ> gotta be ready for lanparty ;)
[11:20] <fudgey> hl?
[11:21] <fudgey> halflife?
[11:21] <fudgey> LOL
[11:21] <whiz2_> I've found where to put the script. I just need to know the syntax for makng the program run asme without stopping the boot process to request a password from the local keyboard
[11:21] <MuJ> yes.. my friends play natural selection :|
[11:21] <fudgey> try hl2
[11:21] <fudgey> I play ep 1
[11:21] <MuJ> nah.. I don't play games
[11:21] <fudgey> =)
[11:21] <Eltran> hl2 sucks
[11:21] <fudgey> NO!
[11:21] <fudgey> you just did not say that!
[11:21] <pointfivezero> offtopic no
[11:21] <fudgey> offtopic hellz yes!
[11:21] <fudgey> -D
[11:21] <Eltran> YAI OFFTOPIC
[11:21] <fudgey> =D
[11:22] <fudgey> you
[11:22] <fudgey> hypocrite!
[11:22] <fudgey> hypot
[11:22] <Eltran> lol but can ya help meh to solve my problem ?
[11:22] <fudgey> you should repost
[11:22] <fudgey> haha
[11:22] <Eltran> I always get this error when I try make : Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined  The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and `autoconf' again.
[11:22] <pointfivezero> the make issue?
[11:23] <whiz2_> I guess no one knows the command?
[11:23] <Eltran> but the problem is... AC_PROG_LIBTOOL is already in configure.in
[11:23] <Eltran> but when I did configure, I saw that : ./configure: line 4454: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL: command not found
[11:23] <premier_> where does firefox keep its plugins?  I need to get rid of some of theme
[11:24] <Eltran> I have libtool installed, how can I define it ?
[11:24] <SolidSource> premier_: depends, but usually /home/USER/.mozilla/firefox
[11:24] <fudgey> premier_ /usr/share/firefox
[11:26] <premier_> mplayer appears to be the only plugin that actually plays media, and the rest just interfere, but I can neither find nor disable the rest (totem, in particular)
[11:26] <premier_> yeah, their not there
[11:27] <whiz2_> nobody likes me!
[11:27] <whiz2_> :-p
[11:28] <pointfivezero> whiz2_: su -c $user -c $command
[11:28] <pointfivezero> oops
[11:28] <pointfivezero> whiz2_: su -l $user -c $command
[11:28] <pointfivezero> might work if the user has an empty password?
[11:29] <whiz2_> the user has a set password
[11:32] <juka> is there a DOWNLOAD LIMITER for linux? something like net-limiter in windows
[11:34] <ninniuz> hi I updated to feisty and I experienced something odd with knetworkmanager
[11:34] <ninniuz> using kwifimanager to get wireless access
[11:35] <SolidSource> and?
[11:35] <ninniuz> and when knetworkmanager is up as well even though not using it I cannot get web pages nor check mail with kmail
[11:36] <ninniuz> had to close it and everything works fine
[11:36] <ninniuz> any explanation for this behaviour?
[11:37] <SolidSource> well it is still only in development...so its probably something they haven't fixed
[11:37] <spikeh> Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy liveCD refuses to start any applications, including the installation script
[11:38] <SuPrem0> hi
[11:38] <spikeh> could this be related to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:39] <SuPrem0> my kubuntu not start in my notebook travelmate 210
[11:39] <SuPrem0> why this????
[11:44] <pointfivezero> I have a question about kdevelop (tried there, no reply - yet): how do I set up the correct documentation for kdelibs etc?
[11:53] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to compile kaffeine but I'm getting this error.  What should I do? configure: error: could not find cdparanoia headers
[11:54] <Jucato> !info libcdparanoia0-dev | crazy_bus
[11:54] <ubotu> crazy_bus: libcdparanoia0-dev: Shared libraries for cdparanoia (development files). In component main, is optional. Version 3a9.8-13 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 152 kB
[11:54] <Jucato> crazy_bus: here's a clue. when configure complains about not being able to find foo headers (foo stands for anything), try looking for a foo-dev package
[11:55] <pointfivezero> !info kdevelop
[11:55] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[11:55] <pointfivezero> !info kdevelop-doc
[11:55] <ubotu> kdevelop-doc: An IDE for Unix/X11 - documentation. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2410 kB, installed size 3080 kB
[11:55] <Jucato> !info kdelibs4-doc | pointfivezero
[11:55] <ubotu> pointfivezero: kdelibs4-doc: developer documentation for the KDE core libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.1 (edgy), package size 39044 kB, installed size 325340 kB
[11:55] <crazy_bus> thanks.  I just thought that I had all packages since I installed build-essential and kde-devel
[11:55] <Jucato> pointfivezero: I'm still installing it now if it will install the KDE API reference in Kdevelop documentation
[11:55] <Jucato> crazy_bus: of course not. :)
[11:56] <pointfivezero> jucato: it was a doxyden index in /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdelibs-apidocs/ :)
[11:56] <Jucato> crazy_bus: build-essential - compiling tools; kde-devel - basic headers to compile basic kde apps
[11:58] <pointfivezero> jucato: it also didn't install htdig when I choose to install the kdelibs4-doc
[11:58] <Jucato> pointfivezero: it really won't. htdig is a separate package, nothing to do with it
[11:58] <Jucato> why it's not installed by default? sure as hell puzzles me
[11:59] <pointfivezero> how does it search documentation otherwise :s
[12:01] <pointfivezero> is there a shortcut key to start the default text editor?
[12:01] <fudgey> hey
[12:01] <Jucato> pointfivezero: none. but you can make your own
[12:01] <pointfivezero> using kmenuedit? will do :)
[12:01] <Jucato> pointfivezero: right-click on Kate in the K Menu -> Edit this item ->
[12:02] <fudgey> is it possible to run gdm without a graphics card in the configuration because I dont know what card im using and its not detected...
[12:03] <fudgey> ???
[12:03] <peibol> hola a todos
[12:03] <fudgey> hallo
[12:03] <peibol> tengo una duda rapida sobre la administracion de usuarios
[12:03] <fudgey> admin
[12:03] <peibol> a ver si alguien puede ayudarme....
[12:03] <Jucato> peibol: english please
[12:04] <peibol> better in english xD
[12:04] <fudgey> yes
[12:04] <Jucato> is that Portuguese or Spanish
[12:04] <peibol> i will try... y not practice english a lot time ago...
[12:04] <Jucato> ?
[12:04] <fudgey> LOL!
[12:04] <peibol> im spanish...
[12:04] <Jucato> !es
[12:04] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:04] <fudgey> Jucato
[12:04] <fudgey> thats hilarious
[12:05] <Jucato> fudgey: sorry. I wasn't trying to be funny
[12:05] <fudgey> o
[12:05] <fudgey> but how can you not know?!
[12:05] <Jucato> why? should I know?
[12:05] <fudgey> yeah
[12:05] <Jucato> why?
[12:06] <fudgey> unless you're lock outside frmo the world
[12:06] <peibol> please...i activate the root user...
[12:06] <Jucato> !sudo | peibol
[12:06] <ubotu> peibol: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:06] <Eltran> !fr
[12:06] <fudgey> how to activate root user?
[12:06] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:06] <Eltran> !ch
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <Eltran> !hk
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <Jucato> fudgey: sorry. but I hardly know how to differentiate those two
[12:06] <peibol> and now i want that my normal user will not have admin users
[12:06] <Jucato> !botabuse | Eltran
[12:06] <ubotu> Eltran: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:06] <Eltran> Jucato, are you a b0t ?
[12:06] <Jucato> Eltran: no
[12:07] <waylandbill> fudgey: change it's password.
[12:07] <Eltran> ok
[12:07] <Jucato> peibol: that page on RootSudo explains everything
[12:07] <fudgey> LOL
[12:07] <fudgey> thanks but yeah
[12:07] <fudgey> is it possible to run gdm without a graphics card in the configuration because I dont know what card im using and its not detected...
[12:07] <fudgey> ???
[12:08] <fudgey> gdm failed to start
[12:08] <fudgey> cuz the card configuration is wrong
[12:09] <fudgey> so I think I just guess what card im using
[12:09] <fudgey> ohh shiett
[12:09] <Jucato> fudgey: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to reconfigure X and set the graphics card properly
[12:10] <fudgey> I did about 40 times
[12:10] <fudgey> I dont know what card im using
[12:10] <ChaosEddie> I'm writing a college personal statement with a few words on OSS/ubuntu/copyleft etc. would anyone like to read, revise, help me on it? im just looking to make sure i didn't make TOO many mistakes.
[12:10] <Jucato> fudgey: if you don't know what your graphics card is, you can use the vesa driver as a temporary default
[12:10] <fudgey> THANKS!
[12:10] <Jucato> !offtopic
[12:10] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter.  :-P
[12:18] <fudgey> awesome
[12:18] <fudgey> il do that
[12:18] <fudgey> =)
[12:18] <fudgey> jkjkjk
[12:18] <fudgey> NOT
[12:18] <fudgey> aw shit forgot the "pause"
[12:19] <pointfivezero> jerry:  try kmobiletools
[12:19] <pointfivezero> ah shit
[12:19] <fudgey> I use my palmone zire 72 with ubuntu!
[12:19] <waylandbill> fudgey: you can charge them for training instead. hehe
[12:20] <fudgey> =D
[12:33] <SolidSource> alright....out of no where problem...amarok won't start for nothing
[12:33] <la> hi
[12:34] <SolidSource> heres what runining in terminal gives http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6543/
[12:34] <la> how to instal any plugins for amarok ?
[12:35] <ubuntu> hi all
[12:35] <la> hi ubuntu
[12:35] <ubuntu> how are yoe<
[12:35] <ubuntu> you
[12:35] <donald> hi everybody :)
[12:36] <la> aha, i'm good, how are u
[12:36] <ubuntu> i'm fine, thanks
[12:36] <ubuntu> where are you?
[12:36] <SolidSource> alright....out of no where problem...amarok won't start for nothing and heres what runining in terminal gives http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6543/      I have tried amarok channel and amarok troubleshooting guide with no luck
[12:36] <donald> ubuntu can you help me with something?
[12:37] <donald> or can somebody else help me with something?
[12:39] <pointfivezero> donald: whats the prob?
[12:40] <la> i'm already here
[12:40] <la> and i'm from poland   and where are u from\
[12:41] <kg0wx> can anyone help with a wine question?
[12:41] <donald> i have two problems: i can't get .wmv videos to play, and i have kmplayer and mplayer downloaded, and they still dont work if opened with those programs, and i need help getting my conexant 56k modem installed and working
[12:42] <waylandbill> !ask | kg0wx
[12:42] <ubotu> kg0wx: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:42] <la> he asked my question<!
[12:42] <kg0wx> I need to make a desktop launcher calling up a windows program with wine.
[12:42] <donald> kg0wx, where did you get your wine from?
[12:43] <waylandbill> use wine as the program to start and the windows program to start as the argument to it.
[12:43] <waylandbill> donald: you may have problems getting the conexant modem working. That's a winmodem IIRC
[12:44] <waylandbill> for the wmv file, did you download the win32codecs?
[12:44] <donald> no i don't think i have. where would i download them from?
[12:44] <kg0wx> where do I enter the argument in the launcher create prog?
[12:44] <donald> adept package manager?
[12:45] <waylandbill> !RestrictedFormats | donald
[12:45] <ubotu> donald: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:46] <crazy_bus> I compiled kaffeine and I don't remeber seeing errors but when I load it I get this message ""
[12:46] <crazy_bus> Loading of player part 'xine_part' failed.
[12:47] <waylandbill> kg0wx: if you are doing a 'Create Link to Application' then you put all that in the Command box in the Application tab.
[12:47] <clau> crazy_bus:  maybe you should have compiled it with xine support? don't know if it's by default compiled
[12:48] <clau> try ./configure --help
[12:49] <kg0wx> I get an error saying it can't find the win prog. If I open a term window, then type cd <enter> then cd '/home/kg0wx/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/CoaxTrap' <enter> then Wine Trap <enter> it works
[12:52] <kg0wx> Basically, I need either to learn the right way to do this or how to make a batch file....
[12:52] <Eltran> I R NOOB U
[12:53] <donald> This https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats you gave me doesn't help much as it explains for Ubuntu, but I have Kubuntu. I am new to Kubuntu just started it 7 hours ago.
[12:53] <fudgey> BLENDER 2.43!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:54] <fudgey> zogm zomg
[12:54] <Eltran> I R NOOB U
[12:54] <kg0wx> never mind - I just figured it out
[12:54] <Tm_T> Mind to behave?
[12:55] <waylandbill> kg0wx: you need to specify that directory as the working directory.
[12:55] <kg0wx> I created a blank file on the desktop, wrote my terminal entries in it then selected open with bash
[12:56] <SolidSource> no ideas on: amarok won't start for nothing and heres what runining it in terminal gives http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6547/       I can see that its probably this "QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image"...but can't find anything on it
[12:56] <waylandbill> kg0wx: that's another way to do it, but does it open a terminal up?
[12:56] <kg0wx> how do I specify the working directory?
[12:56] <kg0wx> Waylandbill: Yep :(
[12:57] <donald> ok guys another question: i am downloading and installing wine from adept package manager, and after that how will i run windows programs with it?
[12:57] <fudgey> has anyone installed the new blender?????
[12:57] <crazy_bus> I did ./configure --feature-xine but it still doesn't work
[12:57] <Tm_T> fudgey: Less ? thank you.
[12:57] <waylandbill> kg0wx: if you use the create link to application dialog, then the working directory is another box on the application tab
[12:58] <fudgey> LEss?
[12:58] <Tm_T> donald: Doubleclick exe, or run from konsole: "wine /path/to/program.exe"
[12:58] <krinns> hi all
[12:58] <Tm_T> fudgey: One questionmark is enough.
[12:58] <krinns> i need to update my konqueror
[12:58] <fudgey> awe come on
[12:58] <krinns> what new version is stable
[12:58] <Tm_T> fudgey: I will come...
[12:58] <krinns> n how i update that
[12:58] <fudgey> ITS BLENDER 2.43!
[12:59] <fudgey> well im thinking your not a designer
[12:59] <fudgey> most likely not 3d
[12:59] <fudgey> prob not 2d either
[12:59] <Tm_T> fudgey: I know well what Blender is and how good it is, still I recommend to behave.
[12:59] <fudgey> recomend me to behave
[12:59] <fudgey> .
[12:59] <Sekaab> bye and have fun
[01:00] <Tm_T> krinns: kubuntu.org has KDE upgrading stuff. :)
[01:00] <wsjunior> hi. i have here a fat32 partition that im able to mount and use but it doesnt appear under kde storage media, how to fix this?
[01:00] <waylandbill> donald: ubuntu or kubuntu installing win32codecs would be the same: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[01:00] <fudgey> why not just stick with ubuntu?
[01:00] <fudgey> whats the diff?
[01:01] <Tm_T> fudgey: KDE vs Gnome
[01:01] <wsjunior> does anybody here knows anything about media:/ ioslave?
[01:01] <Tm_T> wsjunior: What you need to know?
[01:02] <wsjunior> i have here a fat32 partition that im able to mount and use but it doesnt appear under kde storage media/
[01:02] <krinns> i need to update konqueror
[01:02] <krinns> only
[01:02] <wsjunior> Tm_T: any idea?!
[01:02] <Tm_T> krinns: Yes, well, it's same procedure anyway.
[01:02] <Tm_T> wsjunior: Yes, you need to add it to fstab
[01:02] <wsjunior> Tm_T: its already there dude
[01:03] <kg0wx> Thanks for the help guys, I got it. :)
[01:03] <wsjunior> Tm_T: do i need some special option there?!
[01:03] <Tm_T> wsjunior: Hmm, then it _should_ appear in media:/
[01:03] <wsjunior> Tm_T: ya i know it should
[01:03] <pointfivezero> mounted the device as /media/device?
[01:03] <Tm_T> pointfivezero: Not need to.
[01:03] <wsjunior> Tm_T: thats why im asking why it isnt there
[01:04] <Tm_T> wsjunior: Uhm, user mount allowed?
[01:04] <wsjunior> ya
[01:04] <wsjunior> rw also
[01:04] <Tm_T> D'oh, then I don't know, sorry.
[01:04] <Tm_T> Works perfectly here and here.
[01:04] <pointfivezero> Tm_T: ok, sorry - ill butt in some other time :)
[01:04] <wsjunior> here it just shows the root partition
[01:04] <donald> yes! i got wmv's to work on here!
[01:04] <Tm_T> pointfivezero: Who's butt is in?
[01:04] <donald> that last link you sent me worked perfectly
[01:04] <Tm_T> donald: :)
[01:05] <Tm_T> wsjunior: Ouch.
[01:05] <Woosta> 2 questions: how do I know what version of kubuntu I have installed .. and how do I upgrade to the latest? Surely it's more than just keeping my packages up-to-date ..
[01:05] <donald> Woosta thats a good question, I want to know the same.
[01:05] <Tm_T> Woosta: cat /etc/issue
[01:05] <Tm_T> Woops, not that!
[01:05] <Woosta> OK, that's #1 .. thanks :)
[01:06] <wsjunior> hehe
[01:06] <Woosta> Oh? it's close though .. just says Ubuntu :)
[01:06] <Tm_T> Hmm, no, yes thats ok, I did it wrong tab here. :p
[01:06] <Woosta> Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[01:06] <Tm_T> Yup, it's what you got.
[01:06] <waylandbill> the repositories in your sources.list determine which version you will have installed.
[01:07] <krinns> Tm
[01:07] <Woosta> Ahh
[01:07] <krinns> where i find that
[01:07] <krinns> n which version is good
[01:07] <Tm_T> krinns: kubuntu.org?
[01:07] <krinns> any idea
[01:07] <pointfivezero> Tm_t: now now, lets not get too frisky we don't even have each others sex and preference yet
[01:07] <Tm_T> There's newest stuff.
[01:07] <Woosta> So if I change my /etc/apt/sources.list to edgy, it will dist-upgrade
[01:07] <Tm_T> pointfivezero: It was you who said that!
[01:07] <Woosta> Or will it just turn into a pile of molten crud?
[01:08] <Tm_T> Woosta: Hmm, you should use "tool" for that, wait.
[01:08] <Tm_T> !upgrade
[01:08] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[01:08] <Woosta> ta
[01:08] <krinns> is there any way to ypdate konqueror through apt-get
[01:08] <Woosta> *exactly* what I want .. a doc .. so I only bother you guys with REAL questions :)
[01:08] <Tm_T> krinns: Yes, though you likely need to upgrade most of KDE along with it.
[01:09] <Tm_T> Woosta: Define real question. ;)
[01:09] <Woosta> Tm_T: For example: My wadge is stuck in a constant flench. Can anyone loan me a drengo?
[01:10] <pointfivezero> Tm_T: oops
[01:10] <Tm_T> Ok, time to test new hardware, have fun kids and remember to behave. ;) ->
[01:11] <darthdual> Woosta, Try some vasoline
[01:11] <Woosta> LOL
[01:11] <Woosta> thanks for the tip :)
[01:11] <krinns> well i have ubuntu
[01:11] <krinns> for some reasons am using konqueror on ubuntu
[01:11] <donald> Ohhh... this wine is working perfectly also.
[01:12] <donald> I'm going to try and install Firefox 2 using wine to run it
[01:12] <pointfivezero> donald: why do that?
[01:12] <donald> because when I install Firefox from adept package manager, it never shows up under Internet or anywhere else.
[01:13] <pointfivezero> so its not in the list?
[01:13] <darthdual> Linux Firefox acts silly sometimes, based on own experience
[01:13] <darthdual> I thought about what you're doing donald
[01:13] <donald> It is in the list available for download, but when I install it, it doesnt show up anywhere
[01:13] <darthdual> Let me know how that works
[01:14] <pointfivezero> tried firefox at the konsole?
[01:14] <johny_> hey, how to set a font in open office interface?
[01:14] <donald> i'll try again at Adept Manager, and hopefully it works
[01:15] <crazy_bus> a unofficial ubuntu kaffeine .deb is also not working.  I get the same error and when I expand the error message I get "xine_part.desktop not found in search path."
[01:15] <ofek> someone can help me ?????? i need help
[01:16] <ofek> i need to set my mouse to move slower
[01:17] <pointfivezero> ofek: settings:/Peripherals/Mouse
[01:17] <pointfivezero> put that inside konqueror
[01:17] <pointfivezero> as a url
[01:18] <donald> okay I downloaded and installed firefox from adept manager, and the only way i can open it is by using Alt+F2 and typing in firefox
[01:18] <pointfivezero> donald: you can manually add the menu entry using kmenuedit, internet=>new
[01:19] <pointfivezero> not sure if thats the best way to do it or not, but it works
[01:19] <donald> alright, and i just added a shortcut to the desktop and it works properly
[01:19] <donald> i like firefox more than konqueror
[01:19] <pointfivezero> sweet
[01:19] <Jucato> donald: it doesn't appear in the K Menu _> Internet?
[01:20] <waylandbill> firefox is placed in the K menu under internet
[01:20] <donald> no it doesnt
[01:20] <donald> i've checked again and again and its not there
[01:20] <n4cht> ahhh.  done playing WoW.  i feel better now.
[01:21] <crazy_bus> the install.txt file tells me to just type ./configure.  But the readme.txt tells me to ./configure --prefix=KDEDIR.  would following the readme instructions fix my problem?
[01:21] <Jucato> donald: please run this command in Konsole and then try checking again: kbuildsycoca
[01:21] <Jucato> donald: ignore the error messages
[01:22] <fudgey> BANANA!
[01:23] <pointfivezero> !kbuildsycoca
  If your K menu is out of date, like after installing an application and not finding it in the K menu, you should type "kbuildsycoca" in a terminal to rebuild the KDE configuration cache
[01:23] <fudgey> !ubuntu
[01:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[01:23] <Jucato> er?
[01:23] <fudgey> !jucato
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jucato - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <fudgey> =)
[01:23] <donald> oooo it appears under Internet now
[01:23] <pointfivezero> i wanted a definition to know what it does :)
[01:24] <Jucato> !kbuildsycoca
[01:24] <fudgey> =D
[01:24] <ubotu> If your K menu is out of date, like after installing an application and not finding it in the K menu, you should type "kbuildsycoca" in a terminal to rebuild the KDE configuration cache
[01:24] <Jucato> ok that's better
[01:24] <fudgey> !gimp
[01:24] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[01:24] <fudgey> !blender3d
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blender3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <fudgey> !blender
[01:24] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[01:24] <Jucato> !botabuse | fudgey
[01:24] <ubotu> fudgey: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:25] <fudgey> LOL!
[01:25] <Jucato> try not to flood the channel. thanks :)
[01:25] <fudgey> you are my brother
[01:25] <fudgey> my mean brother
[01:25] <Jucato> and btw, blender 2.43 has been released :P
[01:25] <fudgey> but I still love you!
[01:25] <fudgey> YEAH
[01:25] <Jucato> lol
[01:25] <fudgey> thats why
[01:25] <donald> what is blender?
[01:26] <fudgey> !blender
[01:26] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[01:26] <Jucato> unfortunately, I don't know if 2.43 will make it to Feisty
[01:26] <Jucato> donald: read up :)
[01:26] <Jucato> or down..
[01:26] <fudgey> =)
[01:26] <donald> lol.
[01:26] <Jucato> whichever direction you prefer
[01:26] <donald> i like to read sideways
[01:26] <fudgey> left to right?
[01:26] <donald> :]
[01:26] <donald> right to left, actually
[01:27] <fudgey> awesome
[01:27] <crazy_bus> where is kde stored so I can link a compile to it?
[01:27] <Jucato> crazy_bus: er?
[01:28] <crazy_bus> ./configure --prefix=KDEDIR  (What is kubuntus default kde install directory)
[01:28] <donald> and to think I switched from Windows about 8 hours ago.. i <3 kubuntu
[01:29] <Jucato> crazy_bus: you can check with "kde-config --prefix" (it's /usr)
[01:29] <Jucato> crazy_bus: by default, if you don't specify --prefix=$KDEDIR, it will install in $KDEDIR
[01:29] <Jucato> so in this case ./configure --prefix=/usr will be redundant
[01:30] <crazy_bus> does that mean it wont fix my problem?
[01:30] <Jucato> what's the problem this time?
[01:30] <donald> hmmm... no LimeWire under adept manager.... :[
[01:30] <Jucato> !frostwire | donald
[01:30] <ubotu> donald: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[01:31] <donald> well good god
[01:31] <donald> this bot knows everybody
[01:31] <darthdual> Anyone know how to do "internet sharing" on ubuntu
[01:31] <darthdual> routing
[01:31] <crazy_bus> Jucato: when I load kaffeine I get the error: Loading of player part 'xine_part' failed.   --details-- Loading of player part 'xine_part' failed.
[01:31] <darthdual> easily
[01:32] <cntb> \o
[01:32] <crazy_bus> I also get the same error on my compiled version and an unofficial .deb
[01:32] <cntb> jucato cannot recall easy solution to audio/x-wav to play wav in firefox
[01:34] <Jucato> crazy_bus: hm.. ok I'm thinking...
[01:34] <Jucato> cntb: hm... sorry no idea.. I don't use firefox
[01:34] <waylandbill> darthdual: easiest is to have a router. :)
[01:35] <cntb> ok jucato how do you play wav in konqueror
[01:35] <xoss> firefox might have some extensions available for download to play audio/x-wav
[01:35] <Jucato> crazy_bus: not really sure... but did you have libxine-dev installed when you compiled?
[01:36] <Jucato> cntb: it should just either launch Kaffeine or run the kaffeine or kmplayer embedded viewers
[01:36] <donald> ok guys i will be back in a bit, im going to update my installation of Kubuntu from 6.06 to 6.10
[01:36] <cntb> try to play this http://vancouver-webpages.com/plugins/diodes-wav.html
[01:36] <crazy_bus> Jucato: yes I had it installed.
[01:36] <Jucato> !upgrade | donald
[01:36] <ubotu> donald: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[01:37] <Jucato> cntb: ok hold on
[01:37] <donald> yup i am on that now :)
[01:37] <donald> is it worth upgrading?
[01:37] <geniusvicks> i'm trying to remove sun-java5-bin from my PC. When I use terminal I get this error ( http://www.pastebin.ca/363453 ). Plz help
[01:37] <Jucato> imho yes, if you want newer versions of apps
[01:37] <donald> ok
[01:37] <Jucato> crazy_bus: plays fine here. the embedded kmplayer is the one being used
[01:38] <crazy_bus> Jucato: wrong user
[01:38] <Jucato> er sorry crazy_bus
[01:38] <Jucato> cntb: plays fine here. the embedded kmplayer is the one being used
[01:39] <geniusvicks> anyone help
[01:39] <cntb> I see jucato. in konqueror it did it for me too
[01:39] <cntb> ty still I want firefox fully functional
[01:39] <donald> cntb, i just got my firefox working
[01:39] <cntb> myabe I will ask at irc.mozilla.org/firefox then
[01:39] <Jucato> cntb: you have mozilla-mplayer installed?
[01:40] <cntb> donald ? firefox to play wav ?
[01:40] <waylandbill> geniusvicks: run as super user (sudo) ?
[01:40] <christian23nv> hi there is there someone who can help me?
[01:40] <Jucato> !someone
[01:40] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:40] <cntb> is that the name mozilla-mplayer ? checking
[01:41] <Jucato> cntb: yep
[01:41] <christian23nv> ok i've got a problem with kubuntu it isn't recognizing wifi
[01:41] <moredhel> can someone tell me how to change the colour of the font of the other person in gaim? i'm using a dark theme and can't see their writing
[01:41] <cntb> installing now
[01:41] <cntb> bbl 5 min
[01:41] <Jucato> moredhel: check GAIM's settings or ask in #ubuntu because GAIM is a GNOME app and they might now better
[01:42] <moredhel> good point, thanks
[01:42] <moredhel> though i use it in kde ;)
[01:42] <Jucato> yep. but KDE doesn't really control GNOME apps' appearances
[01:42] <christian23nv> before try to install beryl wifi works ok, but after that wifi stop working
[01:42] <Jucato> at least not to a certain extent...
[01:43] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[01:44] <waylandbill> moredhel: I don't think you can change their color. Tell them that you cannot read what they are typing.
[01:44] <ForgeAus> is there a way to change KDE so that I have to click twice to open things?
[01:44] <geniusvicks> waylandbill, I did that
[01:45] <ForgeAus> so that single click to selects double opens
[01:45] <Jucato> ForgeAus: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse
[01:45] <ForgeAus> thanx Jucato  :)
[01:46] <moredhel> no, i can't, and i did :P
[01:46] <cntb> ok donald have mozilla-mplayer
[01:46] <donald> no, i do not
[01:47] <donald> i'll go get it immediately :)
[01:47] <liviux> hi all guys
[01:47] <Jucato> cntb: working now?
[01:47] <waylandbill> moredhel: my daughter always uses a microscopic font, but I think she does it to irritate me.
[01:47] <donald> hi liviux :)
[01:47] <cntb> jucato . checking
[01:48] <moredhel> hehe
[01:48] <fudgey> good night
[01:49] <cntb> joe__: ?
[01:49] <donald> alright, i have mozilla-mplayer
[01:49] <donald> what did i need it for again?
[01:50] <cntb> donald firefox played wav right with mozilla-mplayer?
[01:50] <donald> i didnt test it. i just installed mozilla-mplayer about a minute ago. i dont even know what its for.
[01:50] <liviux> I would to know where is "modprobe.conf" file in Kubuntu system. Does anyone know this?
[01:51] <moredhel> does anyone know if there is any good documentation on making skins for kde or metacity/gtk ?
[01:51] <waylandbill> liviux: look at /etc/modprobe.d/
[01:51] <cntb> jucato suggested it would be the helper the plugin for mozilla firefoxto play wav
[01:51] <donald> i'm going to see if i am able to install this game that was made for windows..
[01:51] <Jucato> it's actually the plugin to play any media in firefox using mplayer
[01:52] <donald> does wine simulate the windows registry and directx?
[01:52] <lenscape> donald: yes
[01:53] <liviux> than you very much waylandbill
[01:53] <lenscape> donald: have you checked the compatibility list on winehq?
[01:53] <donald> oooo good then i can play this game..
[01:53] <lenscape> donald: not necessarily
[01:53] <lenscape> donald: but no harm in trying
[01:54] <donald> yes i will try and if it wont work then oh well :)
[01:54] <cntb> now looking here http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialMimeTypesAndApplications.html
[01:56] <mart81> Is there a place in kde where one can configure the amarok super-z/x/c/v/b keyys?
[01:57] <Jucato> mart81: Settings -> Configure Global Shortcuts
[01:58] <mart81> Jucato: wow, that was easy, i should have found this... Thanks!
[01:59] <donald> okay the installation of that game didnt go too well.
[02:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[02:00] <donald> When I insert the CD for the game to install, it comes up with the screen letting me select to Install, Play or Exit, and I click Install and it brings up InstallShield Wizard, and it then says it was interrupted before the installation could complete, but it doesn't appear installation even began.
[02:01] <tuco> Hi all. Anyone would know what Firefox cannot be downloaded or installed through adept or sudo?
[02:01] <donald> Tuco
[02:01] <ForgeAus> 2.0 I think
[02:01] <moredhel> can anything else?
[02:01] <donald> I just downloaded it from Adept Package Manager less than an hour ago.
[02:01] <waylandbill> donald: wine isn't 100% compatible, so you may run into problems. on top of that, the directx is only implemented as far as 8.
[02:01] <liviux> What does means "cannot connect to X server" from bash when I try to launch one file from root?
[02:02] <donald> oh. it requires DirectX9.0 although its a fully 2D game
[02:02] <ForgeAus> donald don't you hate that!
[02:02] <ForgeAus> me too...
[02:02] <donald> yes, very annoying
[02:03] <donald> but i am enjoying kubuntu more than i was windows xp 9 hours ago
[02:03] <BluesKaj> get an xbox or PS :)
[02:03] <esaym> anybody know anything about this repo: http://kubuntu.org/packages/
[02:03] <ForgeAus> hehe yeah kubuntu's kewl
[02:03] <esaym> Is it just for edgy or what?
[02:04] <Jucato> esaym: it contains KDE/Kubuntu specific upgrades and packages ranging from Dapper to Edgy (even Feisty)
[02:04] <ForgeAus> essaym yeah looks old
[02:04] <BluesKaj> old pkgs esaym
[02:04] <Jucato> ForgeAus: actually they're not
[02:04] <BluesKaj> kde 3.5.2 not old ?
[02:05] <Jucato> since when did Amarok 1.4.5 and KDE 3.5.6 become too old?
[02:05] <esaym> hmm, so shoudl I add it or not? lol
[02:05] <ForgeAus> isn't hoary old?
[02:05] <Jucato> esaym: only add the ones you need. instructions are in the various announcements in http://kubuntu.org
[02:05] <ForgeAus> ahh IC
[02:05] <Jucato> ForgeAus: please look at the whole list
[02:05] <ForgeAus> Jucato's right
[02:05] <ForgeAus> it has kde3.5.6 as well
[02:05] <esaym> Oh I see
[02:06] <esaym> thank you
[02:06] <BluesKaj> 3.5.6 test
[02:06] <BluesKaj> why?
[02:06] <ForgeAus>  kde-356/
[02:06] <tuco> Donald the message I get is: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages
[02:07] <Jucato> BluesKaj: it's a repository. there's no rule on what should be. if the maintainers want to add a kde-356-test-failed directory, so be it. not everything there is supposed to be used anyway :)
[02:07] <mart81> donald: don't tell cartmen...
[02:07] <tuco> maybe my repositories are wrong?
[02:07] <esaym> ah here's something I can use: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php ;)
[02:08] <BluesKaj> IC Jucato , so ppl who want an older more stable vers od pkgs have a place to get it ...I can dig that :)
[02:08] <Jucato> esaym: if you're on Edgy, the latest is 3.5.6
[02:09] <esaym> I use dapper
[02:09] <Jucato> BluesKaj: sometimes, that repo also holds test packages. hence the -test
[02:09] <tuco> ok yes repositories were wrong changed them and ot works now! Sweet me.
[02:09] <Jucato> esaym: ah ok. then 3.5.5 it is.. :(
[02:09] <BluesKaj> yup, gotcha , Jucato
[02:09] <donald> ok guys another question. i downloaded FrostWire from frostwire.com in the form of a .deb file for Ubuntu, how do i use this file?
[02:09] <ForgeAus> use dpkg to install it probably
[02:09] <waylandbill> donald: dpkg .. -i in this case.
[02:10] <ForgeAus> or rightclick it in konqueror and find the installer in the submenu
[02:10] <Jucato> right-click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package to be exact
[02:10] <ForgeAus> thats the one
[02:10] <donald> oh yes i believe its working now =]
[02:10] <esaym> Jucato: I am on 3.5.2 right now
[02:11] <esaym> I wonder what the changes are?  And why hasn't this be uploaded to the official repos?
[02:11] <donald> what do i type to reinstate the cache to the Internet under k menu
[02:12] <Jucato> donald: depends. usually it
[02:12] <Jucato> donald: depends. usually it's automatic
[02:12] <Jucato> but if for some reason, some app you installed doesn't show up, "kbuildsycoca" is the command
[02:14] <donald> it requires java right? is java defaultly installed with kubuntu?
[02:14] <ForgeAus> I almost wish it was!
[02:14] <donald> lol.
[02:14] <donald> that means i have to go throught the hassle of downloading it. great. :D
[02:15] <Jucato> donald: use the command line, "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin"
[02:16] <Jucato> then "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and choose the Sun Java as your default Java version
[02:16] <ForgeAus> Jucato why not 6?
[02:16] <Jucato> you can have sun-java6-bin if you enable your backports repository
[02:16] <Jucato> presuming you're on dapper
[02:16] <Jucato> er.. I mean edgy
[02:16] <donald> im on dapper, and i replaced that 5 with a 6 and its downloading
[02:16] <Jucato> oh cool
[02:17] <Jucato> yeah both
[02:17] <Jucato> !info sun-java6-bin dapper-backports
[02:17] <ubotu> sun-java6-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~dapper1 (dapper-backports), package size 25604 kB, installed size 76680 kB
[02:17] <donald> i enabled all listed repositories when i was in Adept Manager and viewing repositories
[02:18] <Jucato> oh my :)
[02:18] <donald> is that bad?
[02:19] <Jucato> not really
[02:20] <donald> ok there i have java installed and set to default
[02:21] <donald> There now FrostWire works perfectly
[02:21] <donald> God I love Kubuntu.
[02:22] <ForgeAus> hehe
[02:22] <ForgeAus> LimeIce :)
[02:22] <BluesKaj> Frostwire sucks , i found that the result has very relationship to whatever you type into the searchbar
[02:23] <BluesKaj> little relationshp
[02:23] <donald> I am using FrostWire right now with no problems
[02:23] <BluesKaj> doh! , better have another coffee
[02:23] <donald> What I type in the search bar... it correctly gives me the correct results
[02:23] <Jucato> yay blender 2.43 runs! without compiling! :)
[02:24] <ForgeAus> I've had trouble with gnutella fabricating results
[02:24] <BluesKaj> must be looking for pron then :)
[02:24] <ForgeAus> blender is kewl :)
[02:24] <ForgeAus> what do you mean without compiling? klik? install/binary copy?
[02:25] <ForgeAus> most kubuntu apps from adept are simply installed not compiled right?
[02:25] <Jucato> ForgeAus: the .tar.gz they provide has an executable file already
[02:25] <Jucato> !info blender
[02:25] <ubotu> blender: Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.42a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 6104 kB, installed size 16072 kB
[02:25] <Jucato> 2.43 was just released today
[02:25] <ForgeAus> I installed mine from adept
[02:25] <ForgeAus> but it probably isnt the version you said
[02:26] <Jucato> yep. the one in Adept is 2.42 ^^^
[02:26] <ForgeAus> lol I rarely have even used it but I've only ever heard good things about it
[02:27] <donald> alright guys i am going to go for now. thank you all for all your help :) you're great.
[02:27] <donald> i'll definitely be back.
[02:27] <BluesKaj> more eye candy ...get vista or OSX
[02:28] <Jucato> Blender is the reason why I'm on Linux right now...
[02:28] <ForgeAus> trying to get OSX
[02:28] <BluesKaj> :)
[02:28] <Jucato> indirectly... (and offtopic :P)
[02:28] <ForgeAus> blender worx under windows tho
[02:29] <vge> blender is in the repos if im not mistaken?
[02:29] <Jucato> let me rephrase that: Suzanne introduced me to Tux :)
[02:29] <Jucato> vge: yes. but not the latest release
[02:29] <Jucato> they're kind enough to provide an .tar.gz that needs no compilation
[02:29] <ForgeAus> vge its very recent
[02:30] <vge> well, i can only use 3dmax (barely) :)
[02:30] <ForgeAus> 3DStudioMax is like Autocad ++
[02:30] <Jucato> oh, then you'll probably hate blender's UI :)
[02:30] <ForgeAus> I found Blender quite comfortable
[02:30] <ForgeAus> I just had no idea what I was doing in it thats all :)
[02:30] <s3rv3r> hi an alle hier
[02:30] <vge> Jucato: yup :/
[02:31] <s3rv3r> ist hier wer der deutsch kann und sich was besser mit kubuto auskennt ?
[02:31] <Jucato> ForgeAus: I found it quite comfy too, and a bit closer to Lightwave's UI/workflow, which I was a bit used to
[02:31] <Jucato> but like you... I don't know what I was doing 95% of the time
[02:31] <tuco> Guys do you know the best options to have Kubuntu displayed properly on two screens? 1280 on the laptop and 1280x1024 on 19 inch lcd (Neovo F-419). I can't seem to have the resolutions working properly on each screen.
[02:31] <Jucato> !dual
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <Jucato> er...
[02:32] <Jucato> !dualhead
[02:32] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[02:32] <BluesKaj> !de | s3rv3r
[02:32] <ubotu> s3rv3r: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:35] <DrMight> this is the kubuntu support channel?
[02:35] <tuco> Basically when I run on 1280x1024 on the laptop it is displayed in more or less the same or bigger on the 19 inch and vice and versa. I tried a lot of stuff to no avail.
[02:35] <Jucato> DrMight: yes
[02:36] <DrMight> ok, got this problem at install, it hangs on: io scheduler cfq registered
[02:41] <DrMight> My install hangs on:  io scheduler cfq registered. any iedas?
[02:41] <wbadger> hello people can someone please recommend the best way to manage memory on kubuntu? it seems like every program says something different about the amount of RAM I'm using
[02:42] <johny_> Hey, what is in your opinion the quickqiest way to find out whether a program is installed in the system?
[02:42] <crystufer2000> OMFG!!!! I love kubuntu!!!
[02:42] <crystufer2000> I'm actually considering switching from my doze!
[02:43] <Jucato> !memory | wbadger
[02:43] <ubotu> wbadger: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[02:44] <wbadger> Jucato, thanks :)
[02:45] <Jucato> johny_: command line: aptitude search <packagename>. it will give a list of packages matching that name. if the line start's with an 'i', that means the package on that line is installed
[02:47] <wbadger> johny_, I think a faster way would be to try `dpkg -l <packagename>` if you're using a debian distro
[02:47] <wbadger> johny_, (debian-based)
[02:47] <donald> Hey guys in need of some help again. Konversation is starting itself up at startup. How do I disable this?
[02:47] <johny_> Jucato: yeah, but it's quite slow -:)
[02:48] <Jucato> donald: completely close it (File -> Quit) before logging out
[02:48] <donald> Oh...
[02:48] <Jucato> johny_: slower than launching Adept, entering your password, and typing the package name to search?
[02:48] <johny_> Jucato: didn't mean that
[02:49] <johny_> Jucato: jus wanted to make a challenge
[02:49] <Jucato> what challenge?
[02:49] <johny_> Jucato: I mean, I wanted to see your ideas.._D
[02:49] <Jucato> :)
[02:50] <aziz> hey gals'n guys. is there a command line tool that can check files for spelling errors in the English language?
[02:50] <Jucato> johny_: wbadger way might actually be faster
[02:50] <johny_> Jucato: I like your idea
[02:50] <BluesKaj> !spelling
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spelling - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <johny_> Jucato: what are you using anyway?
[02:51] <BluesKaj> !spellcheck
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spellcheck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <Jucato> johny_: aptitude
[02:51] <aziz> ubotu seems to know nothing regarding this :)
[02:51] <Jucato> aziz: I think aspell can be used in the command line
[02:51] <lumark> What?
[02:51] <aziz> ok, i'll have a look at it
[02:52] <lumark> You're...
[02:52] <BluesKaj> !aspell
[02:52] <ubotu> aspell: GNU Aspell spell-checker. In component main, is optional. Version 0.60.4-4 (edgy), package size 124 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[02:52] <johny_> Jucato: what's about wbadger? if you please of course :)
[02:52] <lumark> I love Wynton Marsalis
[02:52] <Jucato> johny_: <wbadger> johny_, I think a faster way would be to try `dpkg -l <packagename>` if you're using a debian distro
[02:53] <blue|palm> If I have taken something from an svn repo (mine actually) how do I gain write access to it? Ive been using windows up and till now so im not too clued up when it comes to linux :) I cant actually write to the files in the folder I have downloaded from the svn
[02:53] <johny_> Jucato: Ah....sorry :-|
[02:54] <wbadger> blue|palm, try chmod +w <file>
[02:54] <DrMight> any got an idead wht to do when my install hangs on  io scheduler cfq registered?
[02:54] <johny_> yeah "dpkg -l" is nice as well, but aptitude does dissplay a short list of similar packages
[02:55] <Jucato> DrMight: sorry, none
[02:55] <johny_> ther's also this diffrence "dpkg)=4 lett aptitude=8...
[02:55] <Jucato> johny_: and dpkg requires you to know the exact package name
[02:55] <johny_> Yeah that's to say
[02:56] <blue|palm> wbadger: what does the +w do?
[02:56] <johny_> I've been using "apt-cache" search so far, ...
[02:56] <Jucato> gives write access
[02:56] <wbadger> blue|palm, it gives you writing permission to <file> provided you are the owner of the file or root
[02:56] <johny_> I'm gonna define some aliases
[02:56] <Jucato> johny_: apt-cache is nice too, but not when you're trying to find out if something is installed or not
[02:56] <MetaMorfoziS> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1400 (linked before the parent post) is intresting
[02:57] <Jucato> johny_: alias search='aptitude search'
[02:57] <Jucato> johny_: that's one of mine
[02:57] <cntb> package names can be investigated thru >> sudo apt-cache search name
[02:57] <MetaMorfoziS> but, why they mess with fonts? My kde starts up 8sec with near 2000 fonts at my laptop, and 4-5sec on hot load...
[02:57] <blue|palm> wbadger: thanks
[02:58] <Jucato> cntb:  <johny_> Hey, what is in your opinion the quickqiest way to find out whether a program is installed in the system? <-- apt-cache search doesn't show if it's installed or not
[02:58] <Jucato> cntb: btw, no need for sudo there
[02:58] <cntb> OK Jucato
[02:58] <johny_> Jucato: that's true, the policy command does..
[02:59] <BluesKaj> when trying to find something i just type the name in konq ...it usually finds it ;)
[02:59] <Jucato> er?
[02:59] <blue|palm> wbadger: if i do that what you said (chmod) under sudo, it makes no difference and with no sudo it of course says operation not permitted
[02:59] <Jucato> johny_: that works too. although policy has a different usage
[03:00] <johny_> yeah I know
[03:00] <wbadger> blue|palm, well you see what you did with sudo is actually give the user "root" permissions to write
[03:00] <johny_> better time has just began...
[03:00] <Jucato> blue|palm: you only need to use sudo with chmod if your user doesn't have permissions to modify the file's permissions
[03:00] <blue|palm> wbadger: yeah, i figured that
[03:01] <wbadger> blue|palm, so what you need to do is perhaps sudo chmod a+w <file>
[03:01] <blue|palm> Jucato: now my user does not have permission to modify the file's permissions, how do i change that
[03:01] <johny_> what program are you using foe mailing lists?
[03:01] <Jucato> blue|palm: what exactly did you get from svn and what are you planning to do with it?
[03:01] <blue|palm> wbadger: thanks again
[03:01] <wbadger> blue|palm, the a is for "all"
[03:01] <blue|palm> Jucato: Its my own code lol
[03:01] <blue|palm> Jucato: Ive been using this svn repo from windows with no probs but im new to linux so everything is a little strange
[03:02] <Jucato> wbadger: if the file is owned by root, giving it +w won't really do much would it?
[03:02] <Jucato> johny_: kmail
[03:02] <Jucato> unless. it's rw-rw-rw-....
[03:02] <johny_> Jucato: just thought that -:)
[03:02] <wbadger> Jucato, notice I changed it to a+w
[03:02] <blue|palm> wbadger: a+w worked thanks
[03:03] <wbadger> blue|palm, :)
[03:03] <Jucato> would probably best if he changed the ownership of the file since it's his anyway...
[03:03] <blue|palm> wbadger: and youve taught me a little bit more :) thanks again
[03:03] <blue|palm> wbadger: how would you give only one user though?
[03:04] <wbadger> blue|palm, Jucato, that's right actually, you could simply make the file yours by using chown <user> <file>
[03:05] <wbadger> blue|palm, of course you will need to run that command with sudo because you still don't own it
[03:06] <johny_> I can't make my mplayer to run a movie under full-console mode. I tried to use "mplayer -vo fbdev" option but it doesn't start
[03:06] <blue|palm> wbadger: thanks
[03:09] <johny_> I do have all the codecs installed, when it fails to run prints "can't run /dev/ fb0"
[03:10] <johny_> "no such device"
[03:11] <Jucato> it seems to be searching for a floppy disk?
[03:11] <waylandbill> I thought fb is a framebuffer device
[03:12] <Jucato> oh yeah
[03:13] <ashields-WMF> hello, this is andrew shields from wikipedia, I'm trying to help someone use wireless with kubuntu edgy eft
[03:13] <ashields-WMF> I would GREATLY appreciate any help
[03:14] <abattoir> !wireless | ashields-WMF
[03:14] <ubotu> ashields-WMF: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:14] <ashields-WMF> thank you
[03:14] <abattoir> ashields-WMF: which chipset?
[03:14] <ashields-WMF> I'm an intern trying to solve a problem for a foundation member and I'm about to have a heart attack
[03:16] <BluesKaj> ashields-WMF, just ask your question
[03:16] <ashields-WMF> first: stupid question, do you need to reboot from windows xp to get into the linux OS?
[03:16] <abattoir> ashields-WMF: yes
[03:16] <abattoir> ashields-WMF: after POST, you'd be asked to choose which OS to boot into
[03:16] <abattoir> ashields-WMF: choose the linux entry instead of windows
[03:17] <ashields-WMF> gotcha, I'm going to ask him some more specific stuff, brb with more questions
[03:18] <ashields-WMF> anyone have a link to a hardware profile for hp dv5264ea?
[03:18] <ashields-WMF> need the name of the built in wireless card
[03:19] <ashields-WMF> got it
[03:19] <abattoir> ashields-WMF: are you on windows or linux now?
[03:20] <ashields-WMF> I'm on windows, not on his PC
[03:20] <ashields-WMF> he's sitting behind me
[03:20] <ashields-WMF> waiting
[03:20] <ashields-WMF> !!
[03:20] <ashields-WMF> what would be the best way to setup his network card?   	Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 802.11a/b/g Integrated Wireless LAN
[03:21] <ashields-WMF> he's able to connect in his windows OS, but not his kubuntu
[03:22] <abattoir> ashields-WMF: doesn't work out-of-the-box ?
[03:22] <waylandbill> might need to use ndiswrapper
[03:22] <abattoir> ok, dumb question...
[03:23] <johny_> how to disable "/away" command?
[03:24] <Jucato> johny_: /back
[03:24] <johny_> Jucato: thanks
[03:25] <waylandbill> ashields-WMF: my recommendation is to use ndiswrapper. it's not installed by default, so you'll have to get it installed. Easiest is to hook to wired LAN.
[03:26] <abattoir> ashields-WMF: are you on that laptop?
[03:29] <krinns> hi all
[03:29] <krinns> i am on ubuntu i have konqueuror  3.5.2-0ubuntu27
[03:30] <krinns> its crashing for some reason
[03:30] <krinns> i want to update this
[03:30] <krinns> what should i add in my source list
[03:30] <krinns> any idea
[03:30] <Ace2016> what version of ubuntu?
[03:30] <Jucato> krinns: are you on Dapper?
[03:30] <krinns> yes
[03:30] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php
[03:31] <Jucato> KDE 3.5.5 for Dapper
[03:31] <krinns> but am using ubuntu
[03:31] <Ace2016> but kde 3.5.6 is available for dapper
[03:31] <UnKnownMan> how change mac address ?
[03:31] <krinns> i have a java based website which carshes it oftenly
[03:31] <Jucato> Ace2016: no it isn't
[03:31] <Ace2016> i mean edgy
[03:31] <Ace2016> i meant edgy
[03:31] <Jucato> krinns: you're using Konqueror on Ubuntu?
[03:31] <Jucato> Ace2016: but he's on Dapper..
[03:31] <Ace2016> but wrote dapper for somer eason
[03:31] <krinns> yes
[03:32] <krinns> my webased application only works on konqueror
[03:32] <krinns> am working on it to have it on firefox
[03:32] <Ace2016> krinns: any chance of talking you into being a kde user?
[03:32] <krinns> but for then am using konquror
[03:32] <krinns> no
[03:32] <waylandbill> :)
[03:32] <Eltran> I R NOOB U
[03:33] <Jucato> krinns: oh. do you have an updated Java installed? if you add the repository for kde 3.5.5 from Kubuntu.org, you can just upgrade konqueror and the related/depending packages
[03:33] <krinns> yes
[03:34] <krinns> yes i habe sun-jre-1.5
[03:35] <krinns> well i have kubuntu source pointed on my sourcelis
[03:35] <Jucato> krinns: specifically the one for kde 3.5.5 for dapper
[03:36] <krinns> but when i do apt-cache search konqueror its shows me the version i already have installed
[03:36] <krinns> how i add that in source list file to spicifically download that kde 3.5.5 konqueror
[03:36] <Jucato> krinns: just add one of the repositories given in that link I gave above
[03:37] <Jucato> krinns: also follow the instructions in downloading and adding the GPG key used to sign those packages
[03:37] <krinns> which link
[03:38] <Ace2016> add it to the sources.list, get synaptic to reloat or apt-get upate, and then find konqueror and right click on it and upate
 http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php
[03:38] <Ace2016> reload*
[03:41] <krinns> why i sign those packages
[03:44] <Jucato> krinns: no you didn't sign those packages. they were signed by the packager. you need to download the GPG Key so that apt-get will know that it's a trusted repo. (instructions are on that page)
[03:47] <the-erm> Has anyone here ever installed kubutu on an Everex notebook?  I was thinking about getting one, and wista ... er vista home basic comes on it, and from what I understand of vista 1 GB of memory is required.  It only comes with 512.
[03:50] <waylandbill> that's nothing new. there was windows 98 systems sold with 16mb memory and xp systems with 256 or even 128mb of memory. That's called upgrades. :-)
[03:50] <BluesKaj> the-erm, kubuntu will run very nicely oa anotebook with 512MB memory
[03:51] <waylandbill> I can attest to that. I hardly ever use 512MB on this laptop.
[03:51] <BluesKaj> most linux memory is cached so don't listen to the ppl who say kubuntu uses it all
[03:52] <BluesKaj> it only appears so
[03:52] <the-erm> I guess it's one of those ... buy it and see. Kubuntu has been very nice to my cheapo $500 emachine desktop.  I couldn't get mandriva to install on it, so I'm pretty sure all I need to do pop in the cd and see what happens.
[03:52] <slyfox> Does anyone know anything about wine? Or channel I can talk to someone at? I just need to know how to enable Russian-Cyrillic fonts in wine ?
[03:53] <Jucato> slyfox: try #winehq
[03:53] <BluesKaj> my pc isn't the greatest .. altho 1G memory helps ...but i paid only 600 CDN for the box , it serves me well
[03:54] <skole> HI, someone who has conected Nokia 6233 with kubuntu?
[03:55] <slyfox> Jucato: thanks. Is there a good free virtual machine program for Linux?
[03:55] <BluesKaj> !VMWare
[03:55] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[03:55] <slyfox> skole: look at kbluetooth or kmobiletools forums
[03:55] <Jucato> slyfox: VMWare (free as in free beer) and Virtualbox (open source license)
[03:55] <skole> txs
[03:55] <slyfox> Jucato: any idea which one is better ?
[03:55] <Jucato> not really sure
[03:56] <Jucato> then there's also Xen and Qemu too
[03:56] <waylandbill> vmware server is a little better as you can make machines easier.
[03:56] <Jucato> I think you can do that with virtualbox as well
[03:56] <slyfox> Jucato: Free Virtual Machine Player for Linux - in package manager.    Player ? is that a media player
[03:57] <ashields-WMF> I'm sorry like 20 things just happened, I'm going to be back in a bit to try and solve this, waylandbill I copied down what you wrote, thanks
[03:57] <Jucato> slyfox: no. vmware-player allows you to run pre-made virtual machines (you can download some of them for free in the vmware site)
[03:58] <slyfox> Jucato: ah ok, so I have to grab the VMWare from official site
[03:58] <Jucato> slyfox: there's also http://www.easyvmx.com/ which lets you create virtual machines
[03:58] <Jucato> slyfox: no. you can just install vmware player from the repositories. but you need to find virtual machines (these are the virtual images) to use with vmware player
[03:58] <BluesKaj> Jucato, so you can't can't run an existing windows install in VMWare player ?
[03:59] <slyfox> Jucato: I was thinking of installing VMWare and then installing windows XP with it? No ?
[03:59] <Jucato> BluesKaj: nope
[03:59] <Jucato> slyfox: you can do that. please check the links given above
[04:05] <mitocondrio> hi
[04:05] <mitocondrio> ciao
[04:05] <mitocondrio> qualche italiano???
[04:06] <Jucato> !It | mitocondrio
[04:06] <ubotu> mitocondrio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:07] <Ace2016> Desktop Environment of the Year - KDE (56.58%)
[04:07] <Ace2016> Yay
[04:07] <Ace2016> oh thats the linux questions thing
[04:08] <ScarFreewill> Ace2016: can you give me the link? i want to se the other de s
[04:09] <Ace2016> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=530202
[04:09] <ScarFreewill> Ace2016: thanks
[04:10] <Ace2016> gnome only had 30.56%
[04:12] <BluesKaj> gnome is too different for ppl moving to linux from windows
[04:12] <Ace2016> so why do people use it? since most of the people who switch to linux come from windows?
[04:12] <BluesKaj> kde is more familiar looking ...IMO anyway
[04:13] <Chousuke> Ace2016: Some people don't like KDE :)
[04:13] <Jucato> let's not get into a GNOME vs. KDE thing shall we?
[04:13] <BluesKaj> hehe:)
[04:13] <Chousuke> I'll just say I used to prefer Gnome over KDE for example.
[04:13] <ScarFreewill> Jucato: :-|
[04:13] <Chousuke> nowadays I use neither. :P
[04:13] <XenThraL> what do you use?
[04:14] <Ace2016> xfce?
[04:14] <Chousuke> Well, I'm on OS X at the moment. But on Linux I use ion3 or xfce4
[04:14] <BluesKaj> fluxbox, xfce
[04:14] <Ace2016> i was half right i guess
[04:14] <ele> KDE is the number 1  :) http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8040/skrmdump6hl4.png  my desktop :)
[04:14] <ScarFreewill> fluxbox is a window managers is it not?
[04:14] <Chousuke> yes
[04:14] <ScarFreewill> *manager
[04:14] <ScarFreewill> so its not really a desktop env
[04:14] <BluesKaj> some ppl just it tho
[04:15] <BluesKaj> use
[04:15] <Chousuke> not everyone needs a DE
[04:15] <ScarFreewill> i some times use dsl...
[04:15] <ScarFreewill> Chousuke: what do you mean? like cli?
[04:16] <ScarFreewill> !cli
[04:16] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:16] <Ace2016> cli is the lack of a desktop, so you can't call it a desktop
[04:17] <Chousuke> ScarFreewill: no, just a WM
[04:17] <ScarFreewill> but he said not everyone needs a DE and cli is not a de
[04:17] <waylandbill> I need a DE to make my CLI sessions look prettier. ;-P
[04:17] <Chousuke> Ace2016: that's not a good definition :/
[04:17] <ScarFreewill> waylandbill: yeah loving that transpricy
[04:17] <Chousuke> I can use the CLI in KDE.
[04:18] <Chousuke> or gnome.
[04:18] <Chousuke> or anywhere.
[04:18] <ScarFreewill> ok then just cl
[04:18] <Chousuke> that's not good, either ;P
[04:18] <ScarFreewill> ok then just bash?
[04:18] <Ace2016> i said cli isn't a desktop, and it isn't, cli is in konsole on your desktop, but still doesn't make cli a desktop
[04:19] <Chousuke> I never said it's a desktop, either.
[04:19] <Chousuke> but those have nothing in common. :/
[04:19] <Chousuke> I mean, it's comparing apples to oranges.
[04:19] <Chousuke> You can have a DE without a desktop :P
[04:19] <Chousuke> ScarFreewill: console?
[04:20] <waylandbill> tty
[04:20] <ScarFreewill> not everyone needs a DE, do you mean like fluxbox can be used without a de
[04:20] <Chousuke> yes.
[04:21] <ScarFreewill> ok now i get it :P
[04:21] <Ace2016> what does tty stand for?
[04:21] <Chousuke> I wonder if fluxbox would work as KDE's window manager in place of kwin
[04:21] <Ace2016> why would you want it to?
[04:22] <Jucato> Ace2016: TeleTYpe
[04:22] <Chousuke> well, perhaps fluxbox is more advanced than kwin :)
[04:22] <Jucato> Ace2016: if you wanted, for example, a faster or lighter wm, and don't mind losing kwin features or integration w/ KDE
[04:22] <Irayo|AFK> I'm trying to follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu but knetworkmanager and network-manager don't exist in my repository...?
[04:22] <ScarFreewill> beryl's efects but not the window manager
[04:23] <Ace2016> Jucato: oh ok
[04:23] <Ace2016> emerald is the window manager
[04:24] <Jucato> no
[04:24] <Jucato> Beryl is the window manager. Emerald and Aquamarine are Beryl window decorations
[04:24] <Ace2016> oh, emerald is teh windeco
[04:24] <Ace2016> the*
[04:24] <Ace2016> now i get it
[04:26] <ScarFreewill> Ace2016: my bad :P emerald then
[04:29] <the-erm> I tried Beryl and couldn't get it to go, it crashed X.  I think it might be my sub standard on board graphics card.
[04:29] <Chousuke> intel?
[04:29] <the-erm> I'm not worried about it so no help needed.
[04:29] <Chousuke> aren't they supposed to work pretty well
[04:30] <the-erm> Works good for me, not with Beryl
[04:30] <Chousuke> though beryl is new and still a bit unstable I suppose.
[04:30] <waylandbill> and then some
[04:30] <Chousuke> so it's not a surprise if you have trouble.
[04:31] <BluesKaj> beryl is merely eye candy and window dressing anyway ...it doesn't do anything to enhance the computing experience in the real world . :)
[04:31] <the-erm> I'll wait a couple of months, and try it again.  I'd rather not waste a bunch of cpu on rendering a nice desktop this one is good enough.
[04:31] <soulrider> BluesKaj: io use beryl, but i agree
[04:31] <Jucato> BluesKaj: technically it does.
[04:31] <Chousuke> BluesKaj: actually, it does.
[04:31] <Chousuke> it doesn't use the CPU for rendering :)
[04:31] <Chousuke> or shouldn't, anyway
[04:32] <BluesKaj> everyone has their opinion ,,, that was mine :)
[04:32] <Jucato> and "enhance computing experience" is a subjective term... your experiences may vary
[04:32] <soulrider> i dont think it really adds anything except for a few times
[04:32] <waylandbill> there are things that are useful. The window scaling is nice.
[04:32] <Chousuke> well it offloads rendering from the cpu to the gpu.
[04:32] <Chousuke> or should
[04:32] <Chousuke> should make things faster.
[04:32] <Jucato> Compositing window managers using AIGLX/XGL also technically have improved window drawing and handling
[04:32] <soulrider> i think what kinda useful about beryl is the expose kind of thing it has and the new alt tab
[04:33] <BluesKaj> yup , I suppose i'd use beryl if my graphics card wasn't so rudimentary or ATI :)
[04:33] <Chousuke> however, it's still alpha so I suppose the benefits aren't very visible yet.
[04:33] <soulrider> i feel so dirty, im using a theme that makes my windows look like vista, im gonna change it right now
[04:33] <Chousuke> but in the future a 3d-accelerated desktop will be standard in Linux too :P
[04:33] <BluesKaj> hehe'
[04:33] <Jucato> or not so evident. everyone's focusing on the eye candy
[04:34] <ScarFreewill> this is my opinion, beryl is merely eye candy, it does not make your pc better but it atrackes pll to linux
[04:34] <Jucato> Chousuke: that would largely depend on the openness of graphic drivers in the future
[04:34] <Jucato> (of course opinions don't always reflect reality...)
[04:34] <Chousuke> ScarFreewill: but the point is that it's *not* merely eye candy
[04:34] <soulrider> ScarFreewill: the alt tab is quite useful and so is window scaling
[04:34] <Chousuke> people just see the eye candy, but it's the underlying technology that matters more.
[04:35] <Chousuke> and most people don't have a clue about that :P
[04:35] <BluesKaj> I tried a RC Vista last fall for a few days ..nice graphics etc .. too bad my dvdrom wouldn't work and my network ...was lucky it even saw the router i guess
[04:35] <ScarFreewill> ok maybe not but when i used it, it was basicly just eye candy
[04:35] <Chousuke> ScarFreewill: you think that because that's what you see :/
[04:35] <waylandbill> Many computer users don't appreciate the code that goes into programs either. That's just the way it is
[04:36] <ScarFreewill> I have Vista, it sucks i hate it
[04:36] <Jucato> ScarFreewill: that's why it's "underlying", you don't "see" it :)
[04:36] <soulrider> ScarFreewill: why do you have it then ?
[04:36] <ScarFreewill> soulrider: its not woth the effort to through it away
[04:36] <soulrider> ScarFreewill: just format the partition and youll get more free space!
[04:36] <waylandbill> fdisk
[04:37] <ScarFreewill> Jucato, Chousuke i used beryl long time ago
[04:37] <ScarFreewill> soulrider: i ment the dvd, i don't have it on my pc anymore
[04:37] <soulrider> ahh
[04:37] <soulrider> ScarFreewill: i think i have  avista dvd around.. somewhere... full of dust and dirt
[04:38] <BluesKaj> ScarFreewill, why did you dump it ?
[04:38] <hofnarr> r
[04:38] <soulrider> i use beryl but i barely have any effects on
[04:38] <Chousuke> ScarFreewill: The real good thing about beryl is that it takes advantage of 3d acceleration, and as a side-effect you get nice eye-candy and a snappier desktop. :)
[04:38] <ForgeAus> hmmm how do you run linneigbourhood?
[04:38] <LjL> if it worked, yeah :p
[04:38] <Chousuke> that is, unless you encounter bugs in beryl :P
[04:38] <BluesKaj> ScarFreewill, does kubuntu do everything you want and need ?
[04:39] <ScarFreewill> BluesKaj: the weather bar is wasted, it tells me my non pirated software is pirated lots of resons
[04:39] <LjL> Chousuke: "unless", haha
[04:39] <Chousuke> LjL: yeah
[04:39] <waylandbill> s/unless/when/
[04:39] <Chousuke> maybe in a year or so it'll be okay.
[04:39] <ForgeAus> kde4 will have some 3D beryl-like funcitonality
[04:40] <ScarFreewill> BluesKaj: i just use xp when i lan and that was like last year last, otherwise i use kubuntu
[04:40] <Chousuke> most people are pretty excited about it.
[04:40] <LjL> so i heard
[04:40] <soulrider> ScarFreewill: vista tells you its pirated while its not?
[04:40] <LjL> anyway hope beryl and friends will be up to speed fast. i don't care much myself (though i wouldn't mind *good* acceleration for the desktop), but the vista factor, you know
[04:40] <cpalmerini> ccccccccccccccccc
[04:40] <LjL> yes, i see
[04:41] <waylandbill> :)
[04:41] <Chousuke> KDE4 sounds like it might be really good, but I won't be expecting too much. :P
[04:41] <cpalmerini> et
[04:41] <ScarFreewill> soulrider: no, if i install like my printer driver it tells me its pirated software and i must put in the origanal cd LOL it sucks
[04:41] <LjL> i'm scared of it. i'm afraid it'll take out all the features i like :P
[04:41] <BluesKaj> i would migrate totally to kubuntu except for some video stuff and scanner programs..the kooka scanner program works but not as well the HP version in windows...things like that are important to us
[04:41] <ScarFreewill> Chousuke: same here about kde4
[04:41] <soulrider> somewhere i heard KDE had some big funding issues, but i dont know if its true
[04:42] <ScarFreewill> i just wonder how the new kicker will be in kde4
[04:42] <waylandbill> ScarFreewill: that was one of the problems reported. If you change too much of the system, it counts against your installation number limitation.
[04:42] <soulrider> how different can it be? =/
[04:42] <LjL> no idea... the current plasma and friends sites look more like hype than anything else :P
[04:43] <ScarFreewill> i use kbfx with kicker atm i don't like the user frienly ness of kbfx, but it does its job
[04:43] <Jucato> LjL: depends on who you put under "friends"
[04:43] <fanscore> !fr
[04:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:43] <LjL> Jucato: eh, whatever the kicker replacement is called
[04:43] <ForgeAus> wow microsoft services for linux installs (interix) basically a linux subsystem for windows
[04:43] <Jucato> plasma :)
[04:43] <LjL> yeah, well then plasma and no friends
[04:44] <Jucato> LjL: unlike the other KDE 4 project though, major Plasma work can't really start until the libs really start to settle down. which is why it's a bit late
[04:44] <Jucato> er.. that shouldn't have been addressed to you LjL
[04:44] <soulrider> uhm.... wth is palsma? :P
[04:44] <LjL> well, i was interested anyway
[04:45] <Jucato> !plasma
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plasma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <Jucato> er.. sorry
[04:45] <LjL> i'm not sure i like the sound of it at any rate... interpreted applets? hmm
[04:45] <Jucato> soulrider: http://plasma.kde.org/
[04:45] <soulrider> thanks Jucato
[04:47] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[04:47] <soulrider> it sais youll eb able to write add ons in java :) maybe i can create some
[04:47] <Jucato> javascript, I think. not java
[04:47] <soulrider> it sais both
[04:47] <Jucato> ok
[04:47] <LjL> aka from bad to worse
[04:48] <Jucato> anyway, the only visible development so far from the Plasma corner is krunner. most of the other changes are under the hood... so nothing to be announced yet
[04:48] <Jucato> LjL: well, it doesn't mean that they will be using only those solely :)
[04:48] <soulrider> !krunner
[04:49] <LjL> hope so. and hope we won't see a load of terrible interpreted applets installed by default
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krunner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <Jucato> soulrider: nothing in ubotu :)
[04:49] <soulrider> damn :(
[04:49] <Jucato> as superkaramba is a sort of "inspiration" for Plasma, you can expect python too :)
[04:49] <Jucato> of course, KDE is still C++ mostly... but they're trying to push for other languages too
[04:49] <soulrider> i **NEED** to learn python and C++
[04:50] <ForgeAus> hehe Python is kewl!
[04:50] <soulrider> no one ever uses java.... :(
[04:50] <ForgeAus> C++ isn't such a huge step from Java
[04:50] <Jucato> er.. let's not get into those things in here ok?
[04:50] <ForgeAus> the syntax is very similar
[04:50] <soulrider> ill be learning c++ this semester
[04:50] <Jucato> not surprising, Java is based on C/C++
[04:50] <Jucato> soulrider:  good luck :)
[04:50] <LjL> KDE isn't C++ anyway :P
[04:51] <ForgeAus> I thought alot of KDE was Python-based
[04:51] <Jucato> ForgeAus: you're confusing KDE with Kubuntu
[04:51] <angasule> uh? KDE uses lots of C++
[04:51] <Jucato> LjL: KDE -> Qt -> C++
[04:51] <BluesKaj> is plasma going to be the "new look" for kde4 ...is that what the site implies ?
[04:51] <LjL> Jucato: well no, it's some custom language that happens to be strikingly similar to C++, which is compiled into a C++ program before being compiled to machine code ;P
[04:52] <angasule> LjL: hehehe
[04:52] <LjL> BluesKaj: the site is devoid of any real contents IMHO :P
[04:52] <Jucato> say what you want. Qt is still C++ :)
[04:53] <BluesKaj> so plasma is just going to be a layer that runs on top of kde ?
[04:54] <LjL> Jucato: sure, just like this is:
[04:54] <LjL> !p2c
[04:54] <LjL> :P
[04:54] <Jucato> BluesKaj: right now, it's a bit hard to define.
[04:54] <ForgeAus> what so its going to be plasma -> KDE -> QT -> Xwindows -> KERNEL ?
[04:54] <ubotu> p2c: Pascal to C translator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.21alpha2-2.1 (edgy), package size 311 kB, installed size 764 kB
[04:54] <ForgeAus> Pascal is awesome :)
[04:54] <Jucato> ForgeAus: huh?
[04:54] <LjL> ForgeAus: you mean like right now it's Kicker -> KDE -> blah blah?
[04:54] <Jucato> Plasma *is* part of KDE
[04:54] <Chousuke> pascal :(
[04:54] <Jucato> LjL: Plasma isn't a single app
[04:54] <Jucato> er sorry
[04:55] <Jucato> ForgeAus: Plasma isn't a single app
[04:55] <Chousuke> We were forced to use pascal to draw and animate pictures :(
[04:55] <LjL> Jucato: surely, it's a plasmatic concept :)
[04:55] <ForgeAus> you mean plasma is an interface that basically integrates many KDE elements? right?
[04:56] <LjL> oh, in the end it's going to be the KDE shell minus file browser, if i can make a bet
[04:56] <Jucato> ForgeAus: for now, we can loosely define Plasma as a project and a concept
[04:56] <ForgeAus> btw LjL kde isn't just kicker... kicker is just the panelbar/kmenu
[04:56] <LjL> that we know
[04:57] <LjL> plasma surely isn't going to be the entirety of KDE either. they'd call it "KDE" otherwise :)
[04:57] <Jucato> of course :)
[04:57] <Jucato> but then, we can go philosophical and discuss on what "KDE" really refers too... (re: aseigo's blog)
[04:58] <ForgeAus> omg microsoft linux for windows.. erm sorry microsoft services for unix is 200+mb!
[04:58] <LjL> he, let's not even get started on that
[04:58] <Jucato> :P
[04:58] <Jucato> let's not :)
[04:58] <ForgeAus> I thought it was an abbreviation for K DEsktop... as for what the K part stands for I don't know
[04:59] <Jucato> it doesn't stand for anything anymore really
[04:59] <LjL> Jucato: my views are roughly expressed in this document i wrote when i had nothing else to do https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KnowThyUbuntu but then it says everything and nothing :)
[04:59] <ForgeAus> otherwise it could just as easily have been TDE or JDE or YDE, of course it'd be silly if it was IDE or CDE...
[05:00] <Jucato> ForgeAus: there is/was a CDE already
[05:00] <ForgeAus> Jucato thats why I said it'd be silly if it was CDE
[05:00] <Jucato> that's why they couldn't call it Cool Desktop Environment
[05:00] <ForgeAus> thats unix's desktop environment right?
[05:00] <Jucato> LjL: oookay.... a document I should read when I have nothing else to do, too :)
[05:00] <ForgeAus> oh so its kewl (or kool?) desktop environment?
[05:01] <ForgeAus> 217 mb to be more exact...
[05:01] <LjL> Jucato: :-P well anyway only the part about desktop environments is pertinent to the discussion here
[05:02] <dwidmann> Hmmm, what does this look like to [insert your  name here] : http://images.xnowherex.net/booterror.jpg
[05:02] <ForgeAus> is there a Motif desktop environment?
[05:02] <waylandbill> It's because K came after L
[05:02] <ForgeAus> is there even a Motif window manager?
[05:03] <Jucato> ForgeAus: http://kdemyths.urbanlizard.com/myth/55
[05:03] <waylandbill> in some alphabet. Forget which one.
[05:03] <ForgeAus> the greek one?
[05:04] <waylandbill> whichever one K comes after L. :-)
[05:04] <ForgeAus> wayland why L I mean LDE?
[05:04] <ForgeAus> Greek K is before L.. kappa lambda
[05:05] <waylandbill> L was the first letter of linux.
[05:05] <ForgeAus> what do you mean was? did they go and change it on us or something?
[05:05] <waylandbill> :-/
[05:06] <ForgeAus> lol I'm just kidding
[05:08] <waylandbill> it's because it was before in the latin alphabet.
[05:09] <waylandbill> The "K" originally stood for "Kool" ("C" as in "cool" was already given away to the Common Desktop Environment), but was changed soon after to stand simply for "K", which is "The first letter before 'L' (which stands for Linux) in the Latin alphabet."
[05:10] <Jucato> [00:02]  <waylandbill> It's because K came after L
[05:10] <waylandbill> Jucato: guess what. I was incorrect. :-)
[05:11] <Jucato> :)
[05:11] <waylandbill> that's what you get for listening to me. :-P
[05:11] <Jucato> I was just watching you try to "prove" your earlier statement :)
[05:12] <joyrider> Hi, newbie question - where do programs normally go? Starting with the root?
[05:12] <waylandbill> Jucato: I knew I had something wrong and went looking for the source.
[05:13] <waylandbill> joyrider: normally /usr/bin
[05:13] <ForgeAus> http://kdemyths.urbanlizard.com/myth/69 I disagree with this one
[05:13] <joyrider> waylandbill: thanks :)
[05:13] <joyrider> what goes to /lib ?
[05:13] <ForgeAus> Kate and Ark at least are "built into" konqueror
[05:13] <Jucato> huh?
[05:13] <ForgeAus> juk can be indepenant  not sure about amarok
[05:13] <Jucato> ForgeAus: do you actually know what you're talking about?
[05:14] <waylandbill> joyrider: kernel related libraries.
[05:14] <ForgeAus> yes the myth that says kde forces "me" to install applications I don't want
[05:14] <Jucato> Kate is not built into Konqueror. it is a separate app, but part of kdebase
[05:14] <waylandbill> joyrider: program libraries tend to go in /usr/lib
[05:14] <ForgeAus> hmmm ark at least
[05:14] <Jucato> ForgeAus: don't confuse what KDE provides/ships and how distros provide KDE packages
[05:15] <Jucato> ForgeAus: Ark is not even part of kdebase.
[05:15] <ForgeAus> not sure why the page mentions JuK that doesn't have to be installed
[05:15] <Jucato> it's in kdeutils
[05:15] <Jucato> because it doesn't
[05:15] <Jucato> (at that time, Juk and Kaboodle were the more popular media apps)
[05:16] <ForgeAus> (Amarok replaced them?)
[05:16] <ForgeAus> but doesn't Konqueror require Ark?
[05:16] <Jucato> in popularity
[05:16] <Jucato> er no
[05:17] <Jucato> technically konqueror doesn't require anything except kdelibs and some stuff from kdebase
[05:18] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:18] <ForgeAus> hmmm so its just a konqueror-integrated app in kubuntu desktop?
[05:19] <ForgeAus> adept didn't like me wanting to remove ark...
[05:19] <waylandbill> it doesn't even suggest ark
[05:19] <waylandbill> konqueror that is
[05:19] <Jucato> ForgeAus: you're talking about kubuntu-desktop metapackage
[05:19] <ForgeAus> I wouldn't expect it to suggest
[05:20] <ForgeAus> jucato yes the kubuntu-desktop metapackage its just an app that integrates into konqueror thats in the metapackage?
[05:20] <Jucato> ForgeAus: some KDE Apps like Ark, Kate, Kaffeine, have KParts. basically, these are embeddable parts of the apps that you can use in other apps, like Konqueror
[05:20] <Jucato> this is why it "looks like" Konqueror is integrated with Ark and vice versa
[05:20] <ForgeAus> kinda like ole?
[05:20] <waylandbill> kinda
[05:20] <Jucato> ForgeAus: kubuntu-desktop has nothing to do with KDE
[05:20] <Jucato> ForgeAus: kinda. but OLE done right
[05:22] <ForgeAus> yeah I know kubuntu desktop has nothing to do with kde (although kde is a part of the package - or at least kubuntu's built-in kde)
[05:22] <Jucato> ForgeAus: kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage (a package that depends on/points to/installs other "real" packages) that installs the necessary packages that make up a default *Kubuntu* (not KDE) system
[05:22] <Jucato> it just so happens that Kubuntu wants Ark to be installed by default, as the default archive program for Kubuntu
[05:22] <joyrider> hmm, having a little trouble installing TeamSpeak manually. I can't run the script which installs the app, I've already changed the install path to /usr/bin/ ?
[05:23] <Jucato> so the kubuntu-desktop metapackage depends on Ark. trying to remove Ark will remove kubuntu-desktop *only*.
[05:28] <krinns> hay i dont have apt-key
[05:28] <ubuntu> hi i got a problem
[05:28] <ubuntu> i accidentaly clicked on create new partition table on my disk
[05:28] <ubuntu> and all my partiotions with data r lost
[05:29] <ubuntu> is there any way how can  i restore my partiotions and data as well please?
[05:29] <waylandbill> ubuntu: did you back up your data first?
[05:30] <ubuntu> waylandbill:  no :[
[05:30] <ubuntu> r are those data lost?
[05:30] <ForgeAus> erm there are some recovery programs around but its klunky at best...
[05:31] <ubuntu> any way i can restore plz?
[05:31] <waylandbill> there is not an easy answer
[05:32] <ForgeAus> ubuntu you can recreate empty partitions easily enough but recovering the data isn't easy...
[05:32] <ForgeAus> and normally even if you try you need a space to store the recovered data... which isn't guaranteed to be reliable at all
[05:32] <ubuntu> :[
[05:33] <ubuntu> ok thx so i will installl kubuntu
[05:33] <ForgeAus> I'm sorry but partitions can be nasty to mess with
[05:33] <ubuntu> and never again fkn suse
[05:34] <waylandbill> you have plenty of space now :-)
[05:34] <ForgeAus> I don't like suse either
[05:34] <ubuntu> i will also install windows
[05:34] <ubuntu> can QTparted make ntfs partitions as well<
[05:34] <ForgeAus> XP and Kubuntu dual boot well together :)
[05:35] <waylandbill> ubuntu: you'll want to install windows first and it makes ntfs just fine
[05:35] <ForgeAus> um not certain but I'd suggest doing Windows first
[05:35] <ubuntu> ok
[05:35] <ubuntu> thx
[05:35] <uranther> can someone help me with compiling gtk-webcore? i get this error on ./configure http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6588/
[05:36] <ForgeAus> hmmm.. damn dind't get a chance to tell him not to make the entire diskspace full with the ntfs part
[05:36] <uranther> i have those packages in version 2.0 afaik
[05:37] <hatta> uranther, you probably need the development packages
[05:37] <hatta> so glib-2.0-dev for instance
[05:37] <uranther> oh
[05:37] <uranther> ok that makes sense
[05:37] <Jucato> might also want to ask in #gtk if there's a channel like that
[05:38] <uranther> thanks :)
[05:44] <uranther> that worked hatta
[05:46] <WashAmOnster> Can anyone help? I can't get my video card to function with kubuntu.   I'm on a Desktop PC with a Radeon x700 card 1GB of ram, Intel p4 3.2 Processor.  My Radeon wont even launch kubuntu live CD without me tampering with my xorg.conf and setting it to use Vesa drivers, let alone upgrade to FGLRX it locks me out of my desktop.  What do I do?
[05:47] <uranther> get a NVIDIA video card :P
[05:47] <uranther> there is a radeon driver for X
[05:47] <uranther> not sure how it works with the newer cards though
[05:47] <WashAmOnster> Which doesn't involve changing my video card.  I can't afford to change right now and it's a PC that I'm borrowing from work so I can't change parts
[05:48] <WashAmOnster> The x700 is a fairly common card, there has to be some work around?
[05:48] <BluesKaj> WashAmOnster, use the vesa drivers for ( edgy 6.10) until you can install the binary fglrx driver from here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b
[05:49] <donald> Can somebody help me with getting my conexant 56k modem working?
[05:49] <uranther> WashAmOnster: installing the binary ATI drivers is a pain, but it can be done
[05:49] <ForgeAus> wash that works for my Radeon 9600 AGP all in one wonder card... x700 is kinda like the next step up ffrom that...
[05:49] <uranther> most of the time..
[05:49] <ForgeAus> (pcie possibly)
[05:49] <WashAmOnster> That's hte problem, after upgrading to the new drivers it locks me out of my desktop
[05:49] <ForgeAus> still it should work fine...
[05:50] <WashAmOnster> and it's PCI-E
[05:50] <donald> Can somebody help me with getting my conexant 56k modem working?
[05:50] <ForgeAus> Wash perhaps theres some configuraiton fault?
[05:50] <ForgeAus> I highly doubt its the x700 thats the only problem
[05:50] <BluesKaj> donald, we heard you the first time ...if someone can they will
[05:51] <donald> sorry BluesKaj i have OCD
[05:51] <juka> O M G!!!!!!!!
[05:51] <juka> Linux DC++ downloaded stuff into a folder that does not exist!
[05:51] <juka> wtf?!?!
[05:51] <ForgeAus> doesn't exist?
[05:51] <ForgeAus> are you certain?
[05:51] <juka> where do I find the files I downloaded?!?!?!
[05:51] <cpk1> it probably made it
[05:51] <juka> yes! it says bla bla bla/Znet
[05:51] <juka> and the real folder is bla bla bla/ZNet
[05:51] <juka> with a capital N
[05:52] <ForgeAus> juka I don't know much about DC++ but it might be in a folder that has a . before it
[05:52] <ForgeAus> that might be hidden from you
[05:52] <donald> what's the big hipe about? lol.
[05:52] <WashAmOnster> Hm, I might try with another distro to see if it's just a kubuntu problem.  Maybe gentoo or something
[05:52] <BluesKaj> OCD ?
[05:52] <cpk1> juka: look in your home directory for a dccrecv folder
[05:52] <donald> yes: obsessive compulsive disorder
[05:52] <ForgeAus> or if you have not got root priveleges you might not see the rest of the filesystem above the /home directory
[05:52] <BluesKaj> donald, then go wash yer hands :)
[05:52] <juka> there are few files
[05:52] <juka> nothing
[05:53] <juka> i tried to search
[05:53] <ForgeAus> lol BK... that wasn't funny
[05:53] <juka> nothing
[05:53] <DonMCN> lol
[05:53] <DonMCN> I'm not that type of OCD
[05:53] <juka> like it downloaded nothing!
[05:53] <ForgeAus> not for serious OCDers anyway
[05:53] <DonMCN> there are different types of OCD
[05:53] <WashAmOnster> Gentoo is a pain to set up though
[05:53] <ForgeAus> wow really I didn't know there were different types
[05:53] <BluesKaj> yes i know ... we all have a touch of it in different forms i think
[05:54] <ForgeAus> Many do, ADD is often highly related to OCD
[05:54] <ForgeAus> (I myself have ADD)
[05:54] <srdjant> Hi, I need a certain package, but can't find it in the apt repositories [multiverse/universe included] . What can I do?
[05:54] <BluesKaj> I'm just lazy
[05:54] <srdjant> I need m68k-linux-gcc
[05:54] <ForgeAus> it also links into likelyhoods of getting dependant/addicted to things like drugs and alcohol ...
[05:55] <BluesKaj> google it srdjant , usually there's arepos somewhere
[05:55] <ForgeAus> srd you mean for a powerpc?
[05:55] <srdjant> I found this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/source/emile   but says package not avaliable
[05:55] <juka> how do i enable linux kubuntu to show hidden files&folders???????????
[05:55] <srdjant> ForgeAus: no I need this for a x86 to cross-compile
[05:55] <ForgeAus> srd, wish I could help you..
[05:56] <cpk1> juka: if you are using a console its ls -a
[05:56] <ForgeAus> qemu can emulate (well more like virtualize) most of those systems but its not a good solution...
[05:56] <juka> i'm using GUI
[05:56] <cpk1> juka: otherwise in konquerer there is an option to show hidden files
[05:56] <juka> i can't find it
[05:57] <ForgeAus> view menu?
[05:57] <juka> yeah
[05:57] <juka> i found it
[05:57] <juka> but how do i make the change permanent?
[05:57] <juka> so I don't have to click show hidden files everytime?
[05:57] <ForgeAus> I think it stays if you don't change it
[05:58] <ForgeAus> at least it has done for me sofar
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Yep - i think so
[05:58] <juka> okay...
[05:58] <juka> this is unbelieveable!
[05:58] <ForgeAus> the default is for it to be off tho, so if you upgrade or something it might possibly go back ... but otherwise shouldn't be a problem
[05:58] <ForgeAus> (with any luck)
[05:58] <juka> the files aren't anywhere on my PC
[05:59] <juka> wtf did Linux DC++ do with them?!?!!?!?!
[05:59] <cpk1> if you used konversation i think it creates a dccrecv folder in your home directory when you dcc something juka
[05:59] <ForgeAus> juka check out where the program saves things too
[05:59] <ForgeAus> there aught to be a setting to alter that
[05:59] <BluesKaj> yes it does juka , cpk1
[05:59] <ForgeAus> go therough the menus or to preferences/options or whatever DC++ calls it
[06:00] <juka> it saves to a folder that does not exist
[06:00] <ForgeAus> there's likely a way to change where to save the files to, I'd be suprised if there wasn't
[06:00] <juka> okay, i found the dc++ folder in my home
[06:00] <ForgeAus> then just copy that path and paste it in konqueror
[06:00] <ForgeAus> or browse there :)
[06:00] <cpk1> ah, so it does exist after all =)
[06:01] <juka> THE FILES ARE THERE OMG!
[06:01] <juka> BUT
[06:01] <juka> they are "incomplete"
[06:01] <juka> while actually they are complete
[06:01] <juka> will just have to rename them
[06:01] <juka> guys, thanks a lot (tear in my eye) :)
[06:01] <cpk1> now scroll up 10 minutes ago to when i first said they were in the dccrecv folder...
[06:01] <ForgeAus> awww... how sweet...
[06:02] <ForgeAus> good luck with ur downloads juka
[06:03] <juka> the folder was hidden
[06:03] <juka> i don't get it why 95% of the linux folders are hidden
[06:03] <juka> not like i can do any harm not using root
[06:03] <cpk1> dccrecv shouldnt be hidden its not .dccrecv
[06:03] <DonMCN> Can somebody help me with mounting this other hard drive of mine? It worked in Windows before I reformatted to Kubuntu.
[06:04] <juka> the folder is /home/juka/.dc++/Incomplete
[06:04] <juka> not really dccrecv
[06:04] <bodzio> hrello
[06:04] <DonMCN> It gives me this error: Could not mount device. The reported error was: mount: can't find /dev/kdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:05] <cpk1> kdb is a logical name?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> ive never heard of that one.
[06:05] <DonMCN> sorry
[06:05] <DonMCN> its hdb1
[06:05] <BluesKaj> DonMCN, is it a seperate drive or a partition on the same drive ?
[06:05] <cpk1> that makes alot more sense =)
[06:05] <DonMCN> It is a seperate drive
[06:06] <cpk1> DonMCN: is it formatted? if so what file type? and is it all one partition?
[06:06] <DonMCN> The hard drive that works is under system:/media/hda1
[06:06] <DonMCN> It was formatted in Windows under NTFS.
[06:06] <DonMCN> and that's the last formatting i've did to it.
[06:07] <DonMCN> and its all one partition, yes
[06:07] <cpk1> DonMCN: do you have a folder in /media already created where you want to mount it?
[06:07] <cpk1> or anywhere on your system relly
[06:07] <cpk1> really*
[06:08] <DonMCN> yes its been there and its named 15G Media
[06:08] <DonMCN> and it has a hard drive icon
[06:08] <DonMCN> My other hard drive it says 38G Media and has a hard drive icon
[06:09] <cpk1> DonMCN: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/somefoldername doesnt work?
[06:09] <schuppi> The Desktop-Live-Install tells me, that I didn't choose a root-filesystem
[06:09] <schuppi> Is this a known bug?
[06:09] <DonMCN> I am in the Storage Media folder where it lists what i have
[06:09] <juka> in K3b, if I leave the "Multisession" on "Auto" rather than "No Multisession" does it mean I can write more sessions on one dvd?
[06:10] <DonMCN> my 38G Media hard drive is already under hdb1
[06:10] <cpk1> DonMCN: so its mounted then?
[06:11] <DonMCN> yes my 38G Media one is, but not my other one, 15G Media
[06:11] <DonMCN> I'm trying to get my 15G Media one to mount
[06:11] <cpk1> DonMCN: so whats the logical name of the 15g media?
[06:11] <DonMCN> hdb1
[06:12] <DonMCN> ooo my 38G Media is under hda1
[06:12] <cpk1> DonMCN: soooo "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/somefoldername"
[06:14] <lontra> hi i'm thinking of migrating my opensuse box to kubuntu but i'm not really sure if i'd be gaining anything and i fear that i'd lose a lot of the nice customizations that opensuse has done...i.e. beagle integration with konqueror, kickoff, etc.
[06:14] <lontra> also i've heard that kubuntu is slow...any opinions
[06:15] <DonMCN> Kubuntu is awesome :)
[06:15] <cpk1> "slow"? if your already using kde then i doubt there would be a difference
[06:15] <cpk1> dunno about beagle though
[06:15] <DonMCN> cpk1: that returns this mount: mount point /media/somefoldername/ does not exist
[06:16] <DonMCN> ok i changed somefoldername to 15G Media and it came up with a bunch of things
[06:16] <cpk1> DonMCN: errors?
[06:16] <DonMCN> not errors
[06:17] <DonMCN> donald@donald-desktop:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1/ /media/15G Media/
[06:17] <DonMCN> Usage: mount -V                 : print version
[06:17] <DonMCN>        mount -h                 : print this help
[06:17] <cpk1> hrmm maybe its -o ne second
[06:17] <DonMCN>        mount                    : list mounted filesystems
[06:17] <BluesKaj> lontra, i dumped suse due to the yast repos problem...kubuntu is much more stable and sensible in it's package manager setup and useage.
[06:17] <DonMCN>        mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels
[06:17] <DonMCN> So far the informational part. Next the mounting.
[06:17] <DonMCN> The command is `mount [-t fstype]  something somewhere'.
[06:17] <DonMCN> Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.
[06:17] <HymnToLife> !paste | DonMCN
[06:17] <ubotu> DonMCN: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:17] <DonMCN>        mount -a [-t|-O]  ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab
[06:17] <DonMCN>        mount device             : mount device at the known place
[06:17] <DonMCN>        mount directory          : mount known device here
[06:17] <DonMCN>        mount -t type dev dir    : ordinary mount command
[06:17] <DonMCN> Note that one does not really mount a device, one mounts
[06:18] <cpk1> no its -t ntfs
[06:18] <DonMCN> a filesystem (of the given type) found on the device.
[06:18] <DonMCN> One can also mount an already visible directory tree elsewhere:
[06:18] <DonMCN>        mount --bind olddir newdir
[06:18] <DonMCN> or move a subtree:
[06:18] <DonMCN>        mount --move olddir newdir
[06:18] <DonMCN> A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom,
[06:18] <cpk1> stop pasting
[06:18] <DonMCN> or by label, using  -L label  or by uuid, using  -U uuid .
[06:18] <DonMCN> Other options: [-nfFrsvw]  [-o options]  [-p passwdfd] .
[06:18] <DonMCN> For many more details, say  man 8 mount .
[06:18] <DonMCN> sorry..
[06:18] <DonMCN> sorry i have never heard of it.
[06:18] <DonMCN> i did that
[06:18] <DonMCN> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6595/
[06:19] <HymnToLife> DonMCN, you have a space in your mountpoint, you need to escape it
[06:19] <HymnToLife> /media/15G\ media <= like this
[06:20] <DonMCN> use a \ instead of a space?
[06:20] <HymnToLife> no
[06:20] <cpk1> no use \ before the space
[06:20] <waylandbill> both
[06:20] <DonMCN> oh ok
[06:20] <HymnToLife> put a \ _before_ the space
[06:20] <HymnToLife> not instead of it
[06:20] <cpk1> which is why I always use underscores instead of spaces since you cant always tab complete
[06:20] <Dr_willis> 'spaces hurtzzzzzzz us.... massssster.....'
[06:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:21] <DonMCN> now it says /media/15G Media/ does not exist
[06:21] <HymnToLife> make sure it exists then :p
[06:21] <DonMCN> i did and it exists with a space in the name under Storage Media
[06:21] <DonMCN> and its unmounted
[06:22] <cpk1> DonMCN: do this: sudo mkdir /media/test
[06:22] <DonMCN> k
[06:22] <cpk1> DonMCN: and then: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1/ /media/test
[06:22] <DonMCN> ok
[06:24] <DonMCN> What it gave me: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6596/
[06:24] <cpk1> oops i copy pasted your code on accident sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/test
[06:26] <DonMCN> ok it mounted, but now it tells me Could Not enter folder /media/test.
[06:26] <cpk1> DonMCN: kdesu konquerer
[06:27] <cpk1> and then navigate to it
[06:27] <tuco> Hello all. I need some help with my audigy card please. Thank you
[06:28] <Dr_willis> tuco,  still fighting that PCMCIA audigy card?
[06:28] <DonMCN> ok it let me, but there is a Recycler and System Volume Information folders in it. must i leave them there?
[06:28] <tuco> Ah Willis geez yes
[06:28] <cpk1> DonMCN: is there any data on this drive that you need to keep?
[06:29] <DonMCN> cpk1: nope
[06:29] <tuco> I have no idea why it is not fucntioning, the onboard sound works though and comes out from the laptop speakers.
[06:29] <cpk1> DonMCN: then you should make it easier on yourself and format it to ext3
[06:29] <DonMCN> can you give me instructions on how to do so?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> tuco,  the logic of that statement eludes me.. :)
[06:30] <DonMCN> i'm completely new to kubuntu, as you can tell, but i can work it if i receive instructions
[06:30] <Dr_willis> tuco,   ive never used 2 sound cardss however.. so there maybe some easy way to 'switch' alsa to default to the other.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> assuming that card is getting seen/configured right.
[06:30] <waylandbill> DonMCN: QtPartEd will do that for you.
[06:31] <tuco> Well I have the onboard sound functioning and coming out of the inbuilt laptop speakers, I want the sound to come out from the 2.1 system that I have and by using the pcmia audigy 2 zs card :-)
[06:31] <cpk1> i think easiest way would be to do sudo mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 right Dr_willis?
[06:31] <DonMCN> waylandbill: where do you find QtPartEd
[06:31] <Dr_willis> tuco,  your card is a ------>  PCMCIA Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Notebook
[06:32] <Dr_willis> correct?
[06:32] <tuco> yes my Lord
[06:32] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, doesn't he have to blacklist one card so the other will be the default
[06:32] <Dr_willis> tuco,  aparently it does work in some of the newer disrtos.. suse 10.2 forums mention it.
[06:32] <tuco> It worked last time I used Kubuntu a few months ago :-)
[06:32] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  thats possible... ive always disabled the onboard in bios.. but since its a laptop..
[06:33] <Dr_willis> tuco,  thats a good sign then.
[06:33] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[06:33] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:33] <BluesKaj> yes in the peripherals
[06:33] <waylandbill> DonMCN: it's on the installation cd.
[06:33] <tuco> no possibility to disable onboard sound in my laptop :-)
[06:33] <Dr_willis> there may be some alsa docs at that url to tell it what sound card to use.
[06:33] <juka> something is not right with this Linux DC++ ................. the directories i set to share he shares the whole drive, or my home dir or something else....... ?
[06:33] <lerneaen_hydra> is there a known problem with the recent update to GRUB?
[06:33] <DonMCN> let me go get the installation cd
[06:33] <lerneaen_hydra> in the APT reps
[06:34] <Dr_willis> tuco,  easiest way would be to figure out what the onboard sound card is using (for modules) and blacklist them in  /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[06:34] <tuco> Somebody gave me a trick here a while ago, but I lost my notes :-(
[06:34] <tuco> so I do sudo....?
[06:34] <cpk1> DonMCN: just do sudo aptitude install qtparted
[06:34] <waylandbill> DonMCN: if you're already running, then get it out of the apt repo.
[06:34] <tuco> Intel HDA is what is been used
[06:34] <DonMCN> oh ok
[06:35] <DonMCN> let me load that up here
[06:35] <DonMCN> i can get it from Adept Package Manager?
[06:35] <waylandbill> correct
[06:35] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_change_default_soundcard
[06:35] <Dr_willis> looks like it has some info. :) not suer how Good it is
[06:35] <Dr_willis> tuco,  what does            sudo asoundconf list
[06:36] <Dr_willis> show.
[06:36] <DonMCN> i go to load adept and it looks like its loading on the bottom and it just keeps doing that until it disappears lol
[06:36] <Apoc> hello?
[06:36] <DonMCN> ok its getting things
[06:37] <Dr_willis> hello....
[06:37] <Apoc> ok, i've got a question.
[06:37] <Apoc> i can't for the LIFE of me figure out how to change the desktop resolution
[06:37] <tuco> it doesn't show up even though it shows in Kmix
[06:37] <Dr_willis> tuco,  yea..neither does mine.. that guide may be old now. :(
[06:37] <tuco> back in 4
[06:38] <Apoc> anybody have a clue :(
[06:38] <Dr_willis> Apoc,  you installed the proper drivers for your video card? (what is your video card?)
[06:38] <Apoc> Geforce 6600GT
[06:38] <Apoc> i'm running off a live CD
[06:38] <hellcattrav> hey Firefox isn't working
[06:39] <Dr_willis> in that case you may not be able to change the res.
[06:39] <Apoc> until i can get a spare HDD to install for real on
[06:39] <Apoc> hm
[06:39] <Apoc> ok then.
[06:39] <Dr_willis> there MAY be some livecd-cheat codes you can use to force it higher.. but not sure.
[06:39] <Dr_willis> i rarely use the kubuntu livecd.
[06:39] <cpk1> Apoc: how much ram you have?
[06:39] <Apoc> 2 gigs
[06:39] <hellcattrav> i tried to go to imdb.com  but it stopped
[06:40] <cpk1> then you should be able to install the nvidia drivers ^^
[06:40] <Apoc> hm, ok
[06:40] <cpk1> and then restart X
[06:40] <Apoc> nvidia.com?
[06:40] <BluesKaj> usually it can be changed at the prompt , before the livecd loads
[06:40] <cpk1> Apoc: use apt
[06:40] <Apoc> ? apt?
[06:40] <slyfox> How do I backup my Cron jobs ? Where are they located ?
[06:40] <Apoc> i'm new to this whole linux thing, trying to get away from winXP
[06:40] <cpk1> Apoc: thats why ubuntu is so cool
[06:40] <Dr_willis> restrting X on the live cd - wont kick the system into reboot/shutdown? :)
[06:40] <Dr_willis> seen some lame livecd's that do that.
[06:41] <cpk1> Dr_willis: no idea, he should still have tty1 though
[06:41] <cpk1> Apoc: apt is how you will be downloading everything
[06:41] <waylandbill> If no linux experience it may be simpler to wait until installation is possible.
[06:41] <Apoc> ah, gotcha
[06:41] <Dr_willis> sad that we cant have live cd's with the proper drivers... :(
[06:41] <Apoc> haha
[06:41] <Dr_willis> but thats the silly comanies for ya
[06:41] <BluesKaj> yeah i think F3 is the help button before the live cd loads X
[06:42] <Apoc> ok, well thanks for the help guys, i've gotta get going
[06:42] <cpk1> Apoc: follow these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:42] <Apoc> most likely i'll be back this way soon
[06:42] <tuco> it shows now Willis!
[06:42] <tuco> in the sudo asoundconf list
[06:42] <johny_> do you know is there any script for uninstalling all the videos drivers in the ystem?
[06:42] <janek> Hi i have problems with czech characters in opera menu, is there any czech user ? :)
[06:43] <hellcattrav> how can I get firefox to work?
[06:43] <BluesKaj> !cz
[06:43] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[06:43] <slyfox> Has anyone tried Kubuntu Feisty Herd 4 ?
[06:43] <cpk1> hellcattrav: sudo aptitude install firefox
[06:43] <BluesKaj> slyfox, what's yer hurry ?
[06:44] <johny_> !cz|janek
[06:44] <ubotu> janek: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[06:45] <tuco> OH yes it worked! Audigy2 now functioning...one down :-)
[06:47] <cpk1> Dr_willis: now that I think about it, you could probably go to tty1 then stop kdm and start it up again, that probably would run the least risk of killing X going into shutdown
[06:48] <CapaH> Does anyone here use kvpnc ?
[06:48] <slyfox> BluesKaj: because I just got a new laptop - latest hardware, perhaps feisty will have a good support for it. It is just that upon isntalling Edgy 6.10 I will do a lot of updates to kde 3.5.6 and many other ones. I also heard that faisty has a better laptop support
[06:49] <sredna> hi
[06:49] <srdjant> Is there a package for m68k-linux-gcc anywhere? I can't find it in multiverse/universe in dapper.
[06:49] <cpk1> slyfox: for what its worth on my 3 year old laptop fiesty is working jsut fine, but remember fiesty is use at your own risk
[06:49] <sredna> do you know if there is a nonbroken konversation package available somewhere that can be installed on kubuntu?
[06:50] <tuco> Well I want to play stuff in Amarok but connot load the cd...ah well I will found out.Thanks for your help Willis and the others...I will be back :-)
[06:50] <trav> ok so i don't know what to firefox didn't work after i tried getting it with sudo aptitude install firefox, and it's still not working
[06:51] <sredna> cpk1: i have heard that the feisty packages should be better, but i'm in edgy
[06:51] <cpk1> sredna: this is on edgy
[06:51] <sredna> cpk1: and there are various problems with the package
[06:51] <sredna> i have 1.01 too, but it doesn't work well
[06:52] <cpk1> ?
[06:52] <slyfox> cpk1: so by instlaling fiesty, and just keeping up with all the updates, I will have the final release when it comes out ?
[06:52] <cntb> !????
[06:52] <sredna> well, i have a text filter that does not work, but i'm told by the konversation maintainer that it works in other distros packages
[06:52] <cpk1> slyfox: pretty sure thats how it works
[06:53] <cntb> !mime
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <cpk1> text filter? you mean autoreplace?
[06:53] <sredna> for highlighting
[06:53] <cntb> why not write a factoid about mime guys ?
[06:53] <sredna> what ever they call it
[06:54] <cpk1> test
[06:54] <sredna> cpk1: dont think it is easy
[06:54] <cpk1> say test for me sredna =P
[06:54] <slyfox> cpk1: But I will not be able to install Edgy packages in faisty ?  I mean if the site has a prepackaged Edgy .deb file, will I be able to install it ?
[06:54] <sredna> test is not the issue
[06:54] <sredna> maybe foo/bar/test/baz
[06:54] <cpk1> sredna: nevermind some else said test in another channel and it highlighted it for me
[06:55] <cntb> my /etc/mailcap has this line
[06:55] <sredna> cpk1: you are not listening
[06:55] <cntb> audio/x-wav; vlc '%s'; nametemplate=%s.wav; description="WAV Audio"; test=test -n "$DISPLAY"
[06:55] <cpk1> slyfox: you will "be able to" install it =P
[06:55] <cpk1> sredna: so what isnt working?
[06:56] <cntb> was there a split 30 sec. ago ?
[06:56] <sredna> cpk1: i have a filter 'kate', and it works in most cases, but not in the kde-commits channel where 'kate' is usually in a path, like '/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kate/part/...'
[06:56] <sredna> very inconvenient
[06:57] <cpk1> sredna: so you were saying your example of foo/bar/test/baz shouldnt have highlighted for me?
[06:57] <sredna> cpk1: that is what happens for me
[06:57] <pixelation> how do I go into wine... find an .exe file I like... link it to desktop?  wouldn't I have to have the "wine" wine command written in a very small script or something?
[06:58] <cpk1> sredna: odd, because it highlighted for me =\
[06:58] <sredna> cpk1: i can't explain that
[06:59] <sredna> i just wish it would work for  me too
[06:59] <klaus__> hallo
[06:59] <waylandbill> pixelation: right click the desktop, select new link to application and in the dialog use a command "wine path/to/program" and make sure to set the working directory
[06:59] <soulrider> hi!
[06:59] <pixelation> waylandbill, you rock, thanks!
[07:02] <atidem> hello
[07:07] <Kite_DH> a little question, i updated from KDE 3.5.5 to 3.5.6...how can u get 3.5.5 again?
[07:07] <ForgeAus> lol intersting question not sure why you'd want to...
[07:08] <Kite_DH> because 3.5.5 was running better..somehow
[07:08] <ForgeAus> um not sure how that some of them downgrades work....
[07:08] <Kite_DH> but if not, i'll leave it
[07:09] <waylandbill> 3.5.6 is in an addon repo yet isn't it?
[07:13] <janek> how i can configure aliases for bemused server ?
[07:15] <drbeams> hi, i am looking for some promotional posters in scribus that i can post
[07:16] <srdjant> hmm, pmount mounts remvable storage as noexec :(
[07:30] <Kite_DH> i wish mplayer plugin for mozilla would have a volume control -_-
[07:31] <eXistenZ> Kite_DH, keep wishing! ;-)
[07:32] <Kite_DH> eXistenZ: i want to know where to request that stuff, lol
[07:33] <Assid> heya
[07:34] <Assid> i currently got 6.06 already installed. i just got the 6.10 dvd..
[07:34] <Assid> should i reload and install from scratch
[07:34] <Assid> OR .. should i just update
[07:34] <Kite_DH> ...im a noob, but i wuold update i think...ask the pros here
[07:34] <Kite_DH> dunno where they are lol
[07:34] <Assid> to be frank, i dont really have much data in there anyways
[07:35] <Assid> so i dont mind a fresh install either which way
[07:35] <Kite_DH> if u dont mind of ur file
[07:35] <Kite_DH> files*
[07:39] <ForgeAus> !tarballs
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tarballs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <ForgeAus> seriously? wow
[07:39] <ForgeAus> !tarball
[07:39] <ubotu> Files with ".tar.gz", ".tar.bz2" or ".tgz" extensions are compressed archive formats, similar to ZIP files. See !tar for extracting them. Some of these files contain programs in source code form; see !compile for getting them to run.
[07:39] <ForgeAus> !compile
[07:39] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:49] <main2> i would like to convert my ext3 system partition to XFS, is this hard to do..?
[07:49] <main2> (i do have various live distro discs :)
[07:49] <cntb> \o
[07:49] <cntb> check that http://www.juancarlosproductions.com/2.htm . how do I hear it in FF2
[07:49] <Xbehave> how can i find a problem in a peryl script
[07:50] <weatherman> hi, I have a usb modem, sometimes it connects to the internet sometimes it doesn't, does anybody know why?
[07:53] <janek> can any1 help me how to share internet with mobile phone via bluetooth ?
[07:53] <dodo> yo
[07:53] <dodo> :P
[07:54] <dodo> any body speak romanian?
[07:56] <archangel_> I have a hacking question
[07:57] <archangel_> (for my parents)
[07:57] <archangel_> anyone?
[07:58] <archangel_> I have a hacking question
[07:58] <archangel_> remote desktop programs
[07:59] <archangel_> wow am I the only one here alive?
[08:00] <parkerw207> heya archangel
[08:01] <parkerw207> sorry i werent paying attention :P
[08:01] <parkerw207> whats up?
[08:03] <archangel_> no prob
[08:03] <archangel_> remote desktop programs
[08:04] <archangel_> I need to connect to my familys pc's (using XP) from out of town, I use Kubunto
[08:05] <skarface> rdesktop?
[08:05] <archangel_> its easier while using the same software, but what do I now that I have switched to linux
[08:05] <archangel_> yeah, can I still fix their pc from my house and not have to travel to do it?
[08:06] <archangel_> or did I screw myself?
[08:06] <skarface> should be able to with rdesktop
[08:06] <archangel_> hmm
[08:06] <archangel_> ok
[08:08] <archangel_> wjat is the difference in Krdc and Krfb?
[08:08] <archangel_> both share connections, but i have oth
[08:08] <archangel_> both
[08:08] <skarface> well you don't want to share yours, you want to connect to a share
[08:08] <skarface> krfb is the server
[08:09] <skarface> I don't know if krdc will work with windows, it's for vnc
[08:09] <archangel_> oh ok
[08:09] <skarface> they'd have to install a separate server for that I believe
[08:09] <archangel_> ahhh
[08:09] <skarface> rdesktop works directly with windows remote desktop
[08:10] <archangel_> ok
[08:10] <archangel_> so they can do the whole request and yada yada, just like before
[08:10] <archangel_> ?
[08:11] <archangel_> thats sounds good
[08:13] <skarface> just type rdesktop at the terminal and you'll see all of the parameters and such. I don't know if there's a convenient gui for it.
[08:13] <archangel_> ok, thank you
[08:15] <intelikey> hmmm having more trubble with installing printer from kcontrol.   now the wizard won't even start.  anyone have cluse as to what to check ?
[08:20] <intelikey> kcontrol problems???
[08:23] <drbeams> hi, i cannot get my monitor and display settings to set
[08:23] <elliott__> I have firefly (mt-daapd) running on a server and want Amarok to see the files? how
[08:24] <sredna> intelikey: set the hostname of the cups server to your IP (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[08:26] <fredsmilder> Hello
[08:26] <intelikey> sredna it's set to localhost  is that not enough ?
[08:27] <adydas> !tvout
[08:27] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[08:27] <drbeams> hi, i cannot get my monitor settings to stay
[08:27] <sredna> intelikey: try the corresponding IP
[08:27] <sredna> intelikey: i had to do that, and many others
[08:30] <BluesKaj> !TV Wonder Pro
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv wonder pro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <BluesKaj> !ATI TV Wonder Pro
[08:32] <sredna> BluesKaj: try 'gg: <yoursearchword>' in konqueror, or in the kde prompt
[08:32] <sredna> ;)
[08:32] <adydas> holey moley that stuffs confusing
[08:34] <intelikey> sredna set in /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf   or /etc/cups/cupsd.conf  ?
[08:35] <adydas> Anyone here by chance got an eg of xorg.conf using a tv out i just want to compare it to my understanding from !tvouts link
[08:36] <sredna> intelikey: i used the kcm module to set it
[08:36] <sredna> let me check
[08:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> I have a problem and I just want to know what the name of this problem is, and if it could be a problem with my graphics card drivers: when I scroll a document, or firefox, or move anything around on the screen, it takes a second to refresh, and you can visibly see it refreshing from the top of the screen to the bottom... anyone know what this is?
[08:37] <intelikey> sredna looks like /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf should work.
[08:37] <KennethP> Anyone here who knows how to move the OSD of Konversation around?
[08:37] <intelikey> i'll go test it    back later.
[08:37] <soulrider> hi
[08:44] <Schuenemann> !wma
[08:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:45] <BluesKaj> !it | Matrix
[08:45] <ubotu> Matrix: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:48] <Matrix> volevo chiedere se c'e' qualcuno che utilizza vdr-xine su scheda dvb
[08:48] <Matrix> oppure con kaffeine
[08:49] <Matrix> o altro prg dvb-s che utilizza con plugin
[08:49] <Matrix> su Kubuntu ......
[08:49] <Schuenemann> !it
[08:49] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:49] <Matrix> mi soddisferebbe anke una risp. entro il 2007 :P
[08:50] <BluesKaj> already tried that Schuenemann...he doesn't read it
[08:50] <Schuenemann> =(
[08:51] <BluesKaj> !it > Matrix
[08:51] <Schuenemann> he already quitted
[08:52] <Schuenemann> or quit
[08:52] <BluesKaj> yup
[08:54] <Schuenemann> which repository should I add to install w32codecs?
[08:55] <hektik> when i boot up kubuntu amd64 desktop cd it always freezes up when it reaches the x server. any idea or documents to read toh elp me ?
[08:55] <draik> Hello everyone
[08:56] <BulletXt> you must disable acpi hektik
[08:56] <hektik> how do i do that
[08:56] <draik> What is the channel for help with Spector?
[08:56] <BulletXt> in the boot add acpi=off
[08:56] <hektik> are you sure that will fix my problem ?
[08:56] <hektik> i dont mean to question you but i want to make sure if you can
[08:56] <BulletXt> 90% yes
[08:56] <hektik> thx ill try
[08:56] <hektik> vbrvb
[08:56] <BulletXt> go
[09:07] <hektik> i put apci=off in the boot options it still freezes once the x server loads up
[09:08] <Bxnp> hektik: just install windows, and your problems dissapear like snow infront of the sun
[09:09] <hektik> why must you resort to saying something stupid
[09:09] <soulrider> Bxnp: windows sucks
[09:09] <Bxnp> man o man, where is your humor
[09:09] <BluesKaj> hektik, live cd ?
[09:09] <Bxnp> yes we know windows sucks blah blah, thats why we are here in this channel
[09:09] <soulrider> intelikey: is here
[09:09] <soulrider> ask him, he is pro :P
[09:10] <intelikey> still no add printer app...    someone good with trubble shooting kcontrol problems ?
[09:11] <BluesKaj> did you try he wizard in sys/settings/printers
[09:11] <intelikey> BluesKaj yes  that's what i'm saying   it doesn't start
[09:12] <intelikey> i get a pid from it but no window ever opens     1771 ?        S      0:03 kaddprinterwizard [kdeinit]
[09:12] <BluesKaj> bummer, maybe it already sees a printer driver
[09:15] <soulrider> guys, is there any app to see if my HD is working correctly ? yesterday it was making noises, and now my Pc wouldnt boot unless i disconnected it
[09:16] <soulrider> im using the safe mode thing now
[09:17] <cris> prova di scrittura in chan
[09:17] <soulrider> !diagnose
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diagnose - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <BluesKaj> !diagnostic
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diagnostic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <intelikey> soulrider badblocks will check the disk  but  if the problem is in the controler that will give false reading sometimes...
[09:18] <WoostaToo> I'm trying to do a dist-upgrade, but it's tripping over on firefox-dev as it has a file also in firefox .. I've tried 'apt-get remove firefox firefox-dev' but that doesn't work
[09:19] <intelikey> sudo apt-get remove 'firefox*'
[09:20] <julio> ola
[09:20] <sageek> I'v installed ubuntu recenetly and grub too, tho i can't add my old win xp into grub menu.lst, when i try to boot its says unsupported executable format
[09:20] <julio> alguem de portugal
[09:20] <intelikey> !pr
[09:20] <BluesKaj> !pt
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <WoostaToo> intelikey: that would seem to be what I already did ..
[09:20] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:20] <intelikey> yeah pt
[09:20] <julio> obrigado
[09:21] <stanek> serdeczne pozdro dla wszyskich
[09:22] <BluesKaj> !pl
[09:22] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:24] <intelikey> going to localhost:631 gets me the cups page just fine but nothing in the cups page does anything...
[09:25] <intelikey> i click it says waiting for reply from blah...     ?
[09:25] <soulrider> !autostart
[09:25] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[09:25] <Ash-Fox> Anyone know how to get the PID of a application one is launching in a bash script?
[09:25] <intelikey> pidof blah
[09:26] <DonMCN> hey everybody :)
[09:26] <intelikey> Ash-Fox example    pidof bash
[09:27] <DonMCN> Can somebody give me a link to an article for updating from 6.06 Dapper to 6.10 Edgy?
[09:27] <intelikey> !upgrade
[09:27] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:27] <BluesKaj> !update
[09:28] <DonMCN> thank you very much
[09:28] <Ash-Fox> intelikey, well.. that returns the pids of proccesses under those names doesn't it.. But I'm trying to store the pid of process I'm launching in a variable so I can kill it later.. I can't kill the other proccesses that are launched earlier, inbetween either.. :/
[09:30] <intelikey> DonMCN try   $!
[09:31] <dettoaltrimenti_> hey- I formatted an old computer while installing linux, and got an error message halfway through saying it couldn't write to the drive, and that it's probably a hard disk error- can I run fsck on a live cd, or somehow run diagnostics on the harddrive that is now completely formatted?
[09:34] <BluesKaj> yes dettoaltrimenti_ , if you can burn a live cd "GParted" ..it may be able to detect your prob , it's also a CG partition editor
[09:34] <BluesKaj> CG = VG=very good
[09:34] <Assid> err..
[09:35] <sageek> a progesss, I'm trying to boot winxp with two single lines (root (hd0,4) and chainloader +1) getting to the "starting up..." level and stuck, ideas?
[09:35] <Assid> something is wrong here.. i have a drive which had kubuntu 6.06 no issues.. now i am trying to install 6.10 from scratch.. and its acting strange
[09:35] <detto> hey- I formatted an old computer while installing linux, and got an error message halfway through saying it couldn't write to the drive, and that it's probably a hard disk error- can I run fsck on a live cd, or somehow run diagnostics on the harddrive that is now completely formatted?
[09:35] <Assid> after formatting.. it gets stuck at 90% .. (superblocks stage)
[09:36] <BluesKaj> yes detto, if you can burn a live cd "GParted" ..it may be able to detect your prob , it's also a CG partition editor
[09:36] <BluesKaj> oops
[09:36] <BluesKaj> ignore the CG
[09:38] <xaoc> nabend
[09:40] <Assid> weird.. i was able to pass that stage in oem mode
[09:40] <Assid> something is wrong here
[09:42] <edgy> Hi, suddenly my keboard in my thinkpad stopped working. It types nothing. In windows it works great, how can I resolve this please?
[09:46] <carlos_> hi
[09:55] <DrNickRiviera> this question isn't directly related to kubuntu, but how can i add up all numbers found in a text file? (expect i have to use egrep but am unsure how exactly to do it)
[09:57] <lontra> DrNickRiviera: with a calculator?
[09:58] <DrNickRiviera> that way is starting to take a while with around 50 numbers and rising :(
[09:58] <lontra> DrNickRiviera: i'm sure there's a way...i just don't know how
[09:58] <edgy> DrNickRiviera: may be you just replace all spaces with +
[09:59] <edgy> replace all from an editor
[09:59] <edgy> then do cat file | bc
[09:59] <edgy> may be it works
[10:00] <hatta> DrNickRiviera, you want to use awk or something like that
[10:00] <hatta> is the file in any specific format?
[10:01] <edemilson> Ola
[10:01] <DrNickRiviera> hatta: it's a .tex file
[10:01] <edemilson> alguem poderia me dar uma ajuda
[10:01] <zerak> some fun classes like [:digit]
[10:01] <DrNickRiviera> was hoping to get around learning an entirely new language ;)
[10:03] <esben> DrNickRiviera: Try bc
[10:03] <esben> DrNickRiviera: together with sed, I suppose
[10:03] <hatta> oh hm
[10:04] <esben> or copy+paste them into an octave vector :o)
[10:04] <esben> if they are space seperated, I often do it that way :)
[10:05] <BluesKaj> !br | edemilson
[10:05] <ubotu> edemilson: pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[10:06] <froud> what can one use to scan to pdf?
[10:08] <DrNickRiviera> esben: thanks for suggesting sed, i've now managed to get just the numbers, but they're all in lines on their own, so i just need to figure out how to add them up
[10:09] <cntb> !ro
[10:09] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[10:10] <hatta> DrNickRiviera, try something like s/\n/+/
[10:10] <hatta> and feed that into bc
[10:11] <DrNickRiviera> hatta: that was my idea too, doesn't seem to work just like that
[10:11] <DrNickRiviera> will play around with it for a while, sure i'll find a way to do it
[10:12] <hatta> oh yeah it probably woulnd't as sed processes line by line
[10:12] <hatta> perl would be easier, could pu the whole file into a string and then substitute
[10:12] <DrNickRiviera> should be able to do it in bash too really
[10:13] <DrNickRiviera> might be a bit slower though, but it's not exactly a huge file
[10:13] <jott> DrNickRiviera: awk can do the job.... do something like  cat bla | awk '{ sum += $1; } END { print sum; }'
[10:13] <will> I need some help, I'm trying to get my wacom tablet to work under Kubuntu edgy.  I installed wacom tools, modified my xorg.conf to be able to detect it, it works for hovering and clicking, but I can't "Hold" down the tablet to say draw a stroke etc
[10:14] <DrNickRiviera> will: that worked perfectly, thanks a lot :)
[10:19] <DrNickRiviera> meant thanks jott, got confused with the lines
[10:20] <jott> DrNickRiviera: actually you don't even need to cat .. just awk '{ sum += $1; } END { print sum; }' filename .. ;)
[10:22] <carlos> hi
[10:22] <DrNickRiviera> i'm getting the numbers using egrep and sed anyway, so it doesn't really matter ;)
[10:22] <carlos> can anyone help me installing ubuntu server in a dell poweredge 840 with raid 1?
[10:23] <DrNickRiviera> might have to look into awk when i've got a bit more time, could come in handy now and then
[10:23] <crystufer2000> Yo.
[10:24] <crystufer2000> Hey, my system is not utilizing any of the swap space I gave it.
[10:24] <crystufer2000> Any way I can force it to?
[10:25] <crystufer2000> !swap
[10:25] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[10:26] <Jared555> hello, what is "install in oem mode"?
[10:27] <cntb> is the http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/ in repos ? how do I sudo apt-get install it and configure to play pronunciations in wav like in www.m-w.com
[10:28] <cntb> Jared555: this is interesting mode you can produce and sell ready installed systems
[10:28] <Jared555> cool
[10:29] <Jared555> any restrictions on it?
[10:29] <DonMCN> !update
[10:29] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:29] <cntb> cool ? nice to think more enthusiasts will spread the system
[10:30] <Jared555> I am trying to get it to start up on this one system but it isn't working..
[10:30] <premier_> when Im logging out of my account to down boot my computer, there is a long period of time when the computer is only showing a black screen, as if it was waiting for some program to close.  Sometimes it never completes and
[10:30] <Jared555> it works on a lot of my other PCs, there any way to make kubuntu show what it is doing when booting off the dvd?