[00:28] <msaikia> @smoser Makes sense. Rebased to masted
[16:53] <rangerpb> smoser, larsks while tracing down this hostname issue in Azure, im observing that eventually in cloud.py (https://git.launchpad.net/cloud-init/tree/cloudinit/util.py#n1048) cloud.get_hostname() is called ... where 'cloud' is DataSourceAzureNet ... but no get_hostname method is in that class ... so what gives
[16:53] <rangerpb> what is it calling ?
[16:54] <larsks> rangerpb: get_hostname is defined in the parent class.
[16:54] <larsks> (cloudinit/sources/__init__.py)


[00:28] <gilvan> oi
[01:11] <BCB> Remoteip module on my ubuntu 22 is install but apache2 fails to restart after adding RemoteIPProxyProtocol On to the apache2.conf file and my google fu is failing me.  Any suggestions?
[01:22] <MTecknology> How do you get nvidia-dkms to stop trying to be in charge of it's own certificate? I'm already managing a certificate for the device and dkms itself is already fully functional and able to sign kernel modules.
[02:03] <rodo> hola
[02:41] <MTecknology> Found it! Ubuntu's shim-signed uses hard-coded paths, completely disregarding the standard created by the dkms package. (seems like a bug)
[02:51] <ismaelr> hello
[03:50] <webchat24> My CPU is not properly throttling. I am using AMD 7965WX CPU on a WRX90E-SAGE motherboard, and running Ubuntu 23.10. When running at full load, the temperature can quickly exceed max operating temp for the CPU (95C). What is the best way to set thermal limits so that CPU (and ideally GPUs as well) are heavily throttled when CPU temp exceeds
[03:50] <webchat24> threshold (ideally 91C)
[03:51] <webchat24> When I check `less /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor`, it is set to powersave. Only other option in scaling_available_governers is performance
[03:52] <webchat24> my understanding is that powersave mode will not thermally throttle ... will performance mode throttle?
[03:53] <webchat24> Also, when I try to set to "performance" governer in `/etc/init.d/cpufrequtils` and reboot, it has no effect. still in "powersave" mode
[03:53] <rock8787> why in apt upgrade it says packages have been kept back. im on beta 24.04 should i worry about it?
[03:54] <rbox> !phasedupdates
[03:54] <rock8787> oh cool thanks rbox
[04:20] <webchat24> My CPU is not properly throttling. I am using AMD 7965WX CPU on a WRX90E-SAGE motherboard, and running Ubuntu 23.10. When running at full load, the temperature can quickly exceed max operating temp for the CPU (95C). What is the best way to set thermal limits so that CPU (and ideally GPUs as well) are heavily throttled when CPU temp exceeds
[04:20] <webchat24> threshold (ideally 91C)?
[05:34] <tyrone_j> jeremy31 tomreyn: ok so there's news about installing ubuntu mate 22.04.4 on a non-uefi pc. now that i let the installer create gpt on the ssd and create a bios_grub partition on the ssd, the install succeeds, but it doesn't boot after install
[05:35] <tyrone_j> it's like that joke "the surgery succeeded, but the patient died"
[05:35] <tyrone_j> the installer doesn't even check if i've booted in uefi mode (checking if /sys/firmware/efi exists)
[05:41] <tyrone_j> and the installer wants me to create the efi esp on the ssd, for reasons unknown
[05:42] <rock8787> maybe you go into bios boot menu and see if you can select the disk
[05:43] <rock8787> then set the bios to use that disk to boot
[05:44] <tyrone_j> rock8787: that's the job of the installer to do
[05:45] <rock8787> sometimes the bios doesnt do the right disk if you have multiple ssds
[05:46] <tyrone_j> rock8787: i just have one ssd (well it's through a sata raid card)
[05:46] <rock8787> hmm. dang
[05:47] <tyrone_j> so the sata raid shows as one ssd to the system
[05:48] <tyrone_j> /dev/sda
[05:48] <tyrone_j> it's not a big deal. i can make the system boot, if i create a mbr on the ssd, but i'm not sure if i should spend effort in creating a bug report about this
[05:48] <tyrone_j> if i'm the only person still installing on bios/mbr system
[05:49] <rock8787> yeah lol
[05:49] <tyrone_j> i already have one bug at launchpad that doesn't go anywhere
[07:05] <tyrone_j> ok i precreated mbr on the ssd, created the two partitions, one for btrfs and one for swap. the installer and os boot work fine
[07:11] <rock8787> nice 👍
[07:53] <tyrone_j> maybe before creating the bug report, if somebody could test it too so i don't spend my time in vain?
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> tyrone_j: before filing bugs, check the latest bugs on launchpad first, there are tons reporting regarding uefi
[08:01] <ice9> randomly I'm getting this without I do anything:
[08:01] <ice9> Warning: The unit file, source configuration file or drop-ins of apt-news.service changed on disk. Run 'systemctl daemon-reload' to reload units.
[08:01] <ice9> Warning: The unit file, source configuration file or drop-ins of esm-cache.service changed on disk. Run 'systemctl daemon-reload' to reload units.
[08:20] <NickH> I'd have thought postinstall scripts for the relevant packages should have done that.
[08:20] <NickH> Did you have an update that did not complete cleanly?
[08:21] <NickH> Eg what is the output of: dpkg --audit
[08:23] <ice9> NickH, empty output
[08:24] <NickH> Do you what packages provide those sevices?
[08:24] <ice9> NickH, no
[08:25] <NickH> Could find out if you have dlocate or apt-file installed.
[08:25] <NickH> Are either of them? Eg output of:  dpkg -l |grep -E 'dlocate|apt-file'
[08:28] <ice9> NickH, both belongs to package: ubuntu-pro-client
[08:30] <NickH> Ok. If there is a /var/lib/dpkg/info/ubuntu-pro-client.postinst it would be interesting to know what is in it
[08:31] <ice9> NickH, https://pastebin.mozilla.org/zCgBSEow
[08:33] <NickH> Seems to be a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-advantage-tools/+bug/2055239
[08:33] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2055239 in snapd "Warning: The unit file, source configuration file or drop-ins of {apt-news,esm-cache}.service changed on disk. Run 'systemctl daemon-reload' to reload units."  Now, after about a month i am noticing the system occasionally hangs and i am thinking it has to do with the wear of the sd card. So i am clicking on the install ubuntu button to install it to the hard drive. However, the casper-rw drive just dissapears and reappears and there is no installation procedure starting... Any idea?
[14:44] <Jim`> What is the latest LTS ?
[14:44] <leftyfb>   22.04 with 24.04 due to release on Thursday
[14:45] <Jim`> leftyfb: M$ pushing their Win11 but u no can installz
[14:45] <Jim`> So looks like I gotta do something beforen xt year
[14:48] <Jim`> leftyfb: Anywho, XFCE or Lubuntu for faster GUI?
[14:48] <Jim`> Xubuntu*
[14:48] <leftyfb> Jim`: try them both and decide which one works best for you
[14:48] <Jim`> leftyfb: Lubuntu looks more how I'd want
[14:50] <Jim`> leftyfb: But yeah, looks like I'll just wait a few days after I decide if my printer gonna work for 24.04, but go on and try 22.04 now to see if I can get it working
[14:55] <jp__> is there a way to install ubuntu without a live usb?
[14:55] <leftyfb> jp__: what is preventing you from installing from usb?
[14:56] <jp__> I have a live persistent usb but seems the install button isn't working
[14:56] <leftyfb> make a new one?
[14:57] <jp__> yeah, but why doesn't it work
[14:57] <jp__> I dont have another usb laying around
[14:57] <jp__> I'm on the ubuntu right now
[14:57] <jp__> can't i dd my current install onto the hdd or something
[14:58] <jp__> Or is this a question out of your leaugue and i shouldn't try whatever you might suggest because it will deff break the install?
[14:59] <leftyfb> jp__: you think offending someone is a great way to get their help?
[14:59] <jp__> Not trying to offend you
[14:59] <jp__> But sometimes i also give advice on IRC
[14:59] <jp__> Even though i am not a super expert
[15:00] <jp__> i didn't know you was i am sorry
[15:04] <leftyfb> jp__: I would not suggest dd'ing the live usb with persistent storage to your hard drive. It's not a real install and uses an immutable filesystem(squashfs)
[15:04] <jp__> ok
[15:05] <leftyfb> jp__: I would just wipe your usb and put the iso installer onto it and install that way. You can then restore your files from backups
[15:05] <jp__> yeah i made cloud backups
[15:05] <jp__> but i was hoping there was a shortcut
[15:06] <jp__> My terminal won't open anymore as well so maybe that is the only option left indeed
[15:06] <leftyfb> there are, but it's non-trivial and will take longer to accomplish.
[16:46] <michaelette> hello guyz :^)
[17:16] <meandrain> Hi. I want to separate OS vs Data, on my ubuntu 22.04 install. Do you guys know what directories are used for data and which for os?
[17:17] <meandrain> I am using the machine as LAMP + Mail
[17:18] <meandrain> I want to use ZFS on root and create different datasets for different directories, but when updating ubuntu I want only to do changes in directories where the OS is installed (I will use snapshots to rollback a failed update)
[18:04] <kaleido> which kernel version is shipping with 24.04?
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> kaleido: currently 6.8
[18:10] <jiggawatt> yeah ubuntu silverblue!@
[18:10] <jiggawatt> coming friday
[19:42] <donofrio> if I can ping yahoo but cannot access the repo's what is my network issue?
[19:42] <bprompt> donofrio: the repos?
[19:42] <bprompt> didn't know yahoo had a repository :|
[19:44] <donofrio> yah <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:44] <donofrio> goes 404 on me ;(
[19:44] <leftyfb> donofrio: yahoo repo for what?
[19:44] <donofrio> no yahoo is my "test ping" site, they do not block icmp
[19:45] <leftyfb> donofrio: can you show us what error you are getting as it relates to ubuntu?
[19:45] <bprompt> donofrio: so yahoo.com is working, but apt-get isn't installing anything?
[19:45] <leftyfb> donofrio: also, you're running WSL right?
[19:46] <bprompt> donofrio: a network setup can disallow ICMP packets at the same time it can allow other connections, or it can restrict connections only through certain ports only
[19:47] <donofrio> https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/d9d17174841e
[19:47] <donofrio> bprompt, yep
[19:48] <donofrio> tried to install pianobar because I seen that audio is pipewire and I was like hummm
[19:48] <leftyfb> donofrio: is this WSL?
[19:49] <donofrio> leftyfb, yah that should be an instant exclude for support fwiw....
[19:49] <donofrio> shouldn't I meant
[19:49] <leftyfb> donofrio: no, but it's certainly an additional layer that could affect your network access
[19:50] <leftyfb> donofrio: can you access http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libu/libunibreak in your browser in Windows?
[19:51] <donofrio> yep
[19:52] <leftyfb> ok, I'm going to go with this has something to do with the WSL networking layer.
[19:52] <leftyfb> I would ask for help with it in #windows-wsl
[19:52] <leftyfb> also, you're running nobel which isn't released nor supported yet
[19:53] <donofrio> I can curl that url just fine from xfce-termial
[19:53] <donofrio> leftyfb, it is in code freeze (aka almost released)
[20:01] <generalist> hej
[20:04] <bprompt> donofrio: you can always check in your webbrowser if  you can reach "<IP_ADDRESS>:80", if  you can't, then is blocked
[20:07] <mdmbkr> anyone willing to help out a little with setting up a persistent ssh tunnel as a systemd service
[20:07] <donofrio> bprompt, browser not installed, but curl works
[20:08] <leftyfb> mdmbkr: look at autossh
[20:08] <mdmbkr> right now I'm looking at https://github.com/mkopa/ssh-tunnel
[20:08] <mdmbkr> but I don't know what I don't know
[20:09] <leftyfb> mdmbkr: use autossh which is in the ubuntu repos and supported by Ubuntu
[20:09] <mdmbkr> roger thanks
[21:43] <kr1ss> hey
[22:42] <joalyson> I deleted PCSX2 and its launcher is still in the menu when opened super, what do I do to remove it?
[22:48] <charlz> Good day all. Does Ubuntu 24 server come with some facility to join active directory during (or post) installation? Currently, using legacy PBIS and not opposed to manual setup, but would love a modern option for virtual machines.
[22:49] <charlz> Also interested in options other than manual configuration for Ubuntu 20/22.
[23:14] <toddc> charlz: later versions have a AD option during install I have not tested it and would need to check which versions 1 sec wile I look for informarion
[23:21] <toddc> charlz: I think it is only part of 24.04 install that should be released on the 25th
[23:26] <charlz> @toddc, thanks! I'm responsible for the rollout every other year and I try to start testing as soon as the final image drops in April, with the plan that we switch to the most recent LTS for all deployments by end of summer. This year, I'm trying to get rid of PBIS (PowerBroker open) since they dropped support for it, and I'd rather not have to
[23:26] <charlz> write up howto's on manual configuration. *crosses fingers for a built-in solution on Ubuntu Server*
[23:26] <toddc> charlz: 1 sec I anm testing 24.04 to verify
[23:30] <toddc> charlz: I just verified that there is a option during first install on 24.04 to join AD and also you can always do it after install on any version
[23:33] <toddc> I did test the desktop version not the server version
[23:44] <MinusSeven> 24.04 should be out soon?
[23:47] <toddc> 24.04 april 25 three days
[23:47] <Guest66> How can i install this package? https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/jammy/benchmark
[23:47] <Guest66> I added universe apt repository but still cannot install it.
[23:52] <aatki> JOIN #cha1
[23:52] <aatki> JOIN #cha1
[23:52] <aatki> PASS poi
[23:53] <arraybolt3> aatki: you need a / in front of join
[23:53] <arraybolt3> also you may have just exposed your password in a public room.
[23:53] <arraybolt3> #cha1 doesn't seem to be a channel on libera.chat, are you sure you're on the right IRC server?
[23:56] <oerheks> unregistered users need help
[23:56] <oerheks> lolz


[00:34] <WickedDekciw> Hello. Got a weird problem with a Synaptics touchpad. Tapping on the touch area to left/right click doesn't work anymore, I specifically have to tap the buttons. Any idea about this!?
[00:34] <WickedDekciw> Especially tapping to drag windows, I heavily depend on this and for whatever reason it just paused itself from working
[06:28] <ANGEBACI> ho masterizzato il cd immagine come faccio installare kubuntu? come secondo sistema operativo
[06:29] <ANGEBACI> il primo è windows 11
[07:08] <lordievader> Good morning
[12:57] <user|65> my clipboard doesnt copy images
[12:57] <user|65> any help
[13:21] <Alabalistic> how you do it
[13:33] <Maik> already gone
[14:54] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[18:16] <ericvan> how can i connect mi microsoft account on kubuntu?
[18:20] <genii> What, hotmail?
[19:25] <derek-shnosh> Curious if anyone is avail to assist with screen tearing that I can'
[19:25] <derek-shnosh> ... can't seem to resolve.
[19:26] <derek-shnosh> I've put details in a reddit thread, is that OK to link here?
[19:26] <derek-shnosh> Very new laptop with Kubuntu 21.10 and Plasma 5.23.4.
[19:41] <valorie> derek_shnosh: link away
[19:41] <derek_shnosh> https://www.reddit.com/r/Kubuntu/comments/rs7qdw/kubuntu_2110_screen_tearing/
[19:46] <Alabalistic> is it a real issue, or just make us jelous about your gear
[19:48] <oerheks> derek_shnosh, your intel will be supported by a newer kernel, see the !hwe option >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1299067/ubuntu-20-04-no-driver-loaded-for-intel-iris-xe-graphics
[19:48] <derek_shnosh> Alabalistic ... what? Def a real issue, this gear is good?
[19:48] <oerheks> !hwe
[19:49] <derek_shnosh> I mean I know its a decent laptop, but its my work laptop... my home gaming and VR PCs are monsters compared to this.
[20:02] <derek_shnosh> oerheks are you saying that my config/setup isn't supported fully in 5.13? To be clear all of my display devices have the right resolution and refresh rate.
[20:02] <oerheks> oh oke, you are on the latest already, i repeated an earlier answer
[20:03] <oerheks> then no, tearfree should work, no other tweaks like dri=3 are needed
[20:05] <derek_shnosh> Yeah I'm not using LTS, on 21.10 with 5.13 kernel. So if "Tear Free" doesn't work, I'm out of luck, eh?
[20:05] <oerheks> yes, it will not be a youtube racemonster
[20:06] <derek_shnosh> Ehh, not so concerned about YT videos as I am tearing while simply dragging a window across the screen.
[20:06] <derek_shnosh> ... semi briefly
[20:07] <derek_shnosh> I'm one of those smooth as butter 120hz kind of guys (even though my main/center display only supports 95hz currently).
[20:07] <derek_shnosh> 120hz+ I mean
[22:04] <zerof> hi all
[23:04] <gant> hola a todos
[23:43] <freetester> hi guys
[23:43] <freetester> someone online?
[23:43] <freetester> i would like to ask you something
[23:51] <freetester> im following this guide
[23:51] <freetester> https://invent.kde.org/plasma/latte-dock
[23:51] <freetester> but i dont know how to install the dependecis nedded


[01:00] <rsalveti> infinity: qemu-linaro for armel failed to upload due: qemu-system_1.2.0-2012.09-0ubuntu1_armel.deb: deb contents timestamp check failed: E:Tar checksum failed, archive corrupted
[01:00] <rsalveti> infinity: just I just trigger a rebuild?
[04:37] <skaet_> plars, balloons - I just updated my quantal system to pick up the latest packages, and now am no longer able to get to the global menu bars for applications.   Are either of you seeing reports of this from others or could this be a problem specific to my system?  Global menus were working fine prior to me updating tonight.
[04:38] <skaet_> I've opened bug:1054850 to track the issue.
[04:40] <skaet_> If anyone else is seeing this issue,  could you please confirm the bug.
[04:48] <bkerensa> skaet: I am not seeing it and I just updated about 4 minutes ago
[08:35] <iulian> skaet_: I've just upgraded now and am affected by it too.
[08:35]  * iulian switches back to xmonad.
[08:37]  * iulian accepts rakudo.
[08:44] <tumbleweed> aww, you beat me
[10:03] <tumbleweed> gah, lp doesn't like that one
[10:03] <tumbleweed> shell loop time
[10:04] <Laney> which?
[10:04] <Laney> banshee?
[10:04] <tumbleweed> yeah
[10:05] <Laney> weird, the problem is usually bug closing and that only closes 5
[10:10] <tumbleweed> no joy yet
[10:11] <tumbleweed> one has a handful of duplicates...
[10:12] <Laney> maybe just wait for that LP deployment on Monday
[10:12] <Laney> (or whenever)
[10:14] <tumbleweed> yeah
[13:06] <skaet_> thanks iulian.   I've marked it as confirmed then.     It might be the same as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1053288,  but that one had no comments since 9/20,   and there were uploads on Friday that could be interacting.
[13:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1053288 in unity "Broken UI and no window management" [Critical,Confirmed]
[13:07] <cjwatson> tumbleweed: if it's not urgent, leave it until the next LP deployment so we can use it as a test case
[13:09] <skaet_> popey,  do you have any further data on the broken UI and missing global menus as reported in 1053288 and 1054850?
[13:10] <popey> hi skaet
[13:11] <popey> for bug 1053288 I think Laura had staging enabled, so had a bit of a strange setup compared to most
[13:11] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1053288 in unity "Broken UI and no window management" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1053288
[13:12] <skaet_> that could be.    For 1054850,  its coming purely from the main archive.
[13:17] <skaet_> coming from a staging environment would explain om26er's comments on the bug.   But what I was seeing definitely wasn't coming from anything experimental.
[13:18] <skaet_> popey,  can you please work with olli to find the right people to start digging into this today
[13:18] <popey> ok
[13:19] <skaet_> thanks.   I'm going to be leaving for the airport in an hour,  and won't be online for most of the day in North America.
[13:20] <knome> skaet_, what do you think are the possibilities to get an ACK for a B2Fe today?
[13:21] <skaet_> pgraner, infinity,  ^ please help.
[13:21] <tumbleweed> cjwatson: it isn't - leaving it
[13:21] <knome> thanks
[13:21] <skaet_> knome,  depends on the detail?    what's the bug number?
[13:22] <knome> skaet_, there's no bug yet, but the details are ready: we'd really like to update our themes with bugfixes + push a recolored USC icon to our icon theme
[13:22] <knome> skaet_, doesn't affect others
[13:23] <knome> skaet_, (at most US, but i'm quite certain they want these fixes too)
[13:24] <skaet_> knome,  open a bug for FFe/UIFe,  if its limited to you,  yeah,  we can look at getting it reviewed and in.   Am assuming your docs folk are ok with it?
[13:24] <cjwatson> tumbleweed: OK.  It'll take a little extra ops work after the deployment (adding a cron job and setting a feature flag), but I'll make sure that happens
[13:24] <skaet_> (ie,  no screenshots to redo)
[13:24] <knome> skaet_, docs folks eg. me, yeah i'm happy with it
[13:24] <knome> skaet_, i'll file the bug in a minute.
[13:24] <tumbleweed> hypera1r: FYI ^^^
[13:25] <cjwatson> Excellent to have a known-previously-bad test case, actually.  wgrant and I had hoped this freeze would provide useful confirmatory data.
[13:27] <cjwatson> Decent hope of being able to remove nearly 2000 LoC from LP on Friday ;-)
[13:27] <tumbleweed> do you have a 2k sized feature in mind to fill the gap? :)
[13:28] <cjwatson> Most of my near-term stuff will be net negative
[13:28] <cjwatson> Maybe I can trade some of it for Adam's livefs buildd work
[13:29] <cjwatson> I want to get chroot management sorted out in a bit, but that will probably end up negative by way of removing the old script
[13:32] <tumbleweed> so we've still lost you to lp for the forseeable future?
[13:39] <cjwatson> No, the guts of this project are done
[13:39] <cjwatson> Just some loose ends
[13:40] <cjwatson> But I want to keep my hand in because it's handy to have somebody whose main focus is Ubuntu who's comfortable working on LP
[13:41] <tumbleweed> absolutely
[13:44] <cjwatson> (not the only one anyway; I know e.g. Brian and Bryce have contributed a fair bit)
[14:30] <hypera1r> tumbleweed: what?
[14:36] <iulian> hypera1r: It was about banshee. Read the scrollback.
[14:37] <hypera1r> iulian: um, about the launchpad bug closing problem?
[14:38] <tumbleweed> yeah, we're going to leave the upload unapproved until the LP fix for that lands next week
[14:38]  * iulian nods.
[14:39] <hypera1r> oh i see.
[14:39] <hypera1r> okay
[14:39] <hypera1r> sure
[14:40] <knome> release team, bug 1043506
[14:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1043506 in xubuntu-artwork "12.10.5 xubuntu default settings - ubuntu software center icon is the same as Synaptic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043506
[14:45] <iulian> knome: You said earlier there was no bug filed.
[14:45] <iulian> Anyway, -release subscribed.
[14:45] <knome> iulian, yeah, i didn't know there was, and i filed a dup few minutes ago... :)
[14:46] <iulian> Could you please mark that as a duplicate then?
[14:46] <knome> sure
[14:47] <knome> eh, it is marked :)
[14:47]  * knome has started losing track of everything, running xubuntu, preparing training lectures and working with clients at the same time
[22:08] <olli>  iulian, seems the webapps, unity, WM issues are resolved?
[22:09] <olli> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-appmenu/+bug/1054850
[22:09] <olli> https://bugs.launchpad.net/libunity-webapps/+bug/1053288
[22:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1054850 in indicator-appmenu "after applying latest updates, global appmenus are not appearing on the top of screen." [Critical,Confirmed]
[22:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1053288 in unity "Broken UI and no window management" [Critical,Confirmed]
[22:09] <olli> couldn't quite tell how, was there an updated libunity-webapps pkg?
[23:44] <xnox> queue bot is asleep
[23:55] <phillw> xnox: it appears he has been poked into being awake :)