[12:47] <MiSS_n00b> i had to use root coz they were root folders i wanted to delete
[12:47] <Astxist> :/
[12:48] <kbrooks> Chousuke, no one told him/her
[12:48] <Chousuke> right.
[12:48] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, SO *why* REMOVE THEM?
[12:48] <Chousuke> kbrooks: no need to shout.
[12:48] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, I need to compile an apache module, but it needs that argument to be set, but I don't know what to set it as
[12:48] <MiSS_n00b> they were on the desktop
[12:48] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, don't overuse root!!!
[12:48] <^BoyHenyo> did anyone here know how to connect ubuntu to windows system?
[12:48] <Chousuke> MiSS_n00b: you used the absolute path
[12:48] <gustav_> it was just a extra / before usr that meant doom
[12:48] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, so? ~/Desktop/usr != /usr
[12:49] <frogzo1> ^BoyHenyo: terminal server client ?
[12:49] <MiSS_n00b> i mucked up installing sometihing and they ended up on the desktop
[12:49] <Chousuke> you should've rm -r'rf usr/ instead :)
[12:49] <^BoyHenyo> there?
[12:49] <Chousuke> ed*
[12:49] <^BoyHenyo> where can i find it
[12:49] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, yeah so?
[12:49] <Chousuke> MiSS_n00b: anyway, you need a re-install. and next time be careful with sudo.
[12:49] <MiSS_n00b> so im a n00b i only started using this linux stuff yesterday:(
[12:49] <Ng> kbrooks: the "n00b" part of the nick shoul dbe the giveaway - everyone mucks up an rm sooner or later :)
[12:49] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, reinstall :)
[12:49] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: Oops. Can't help you.
[12:49] <frogzo1> ^BoyHenyo: applications -> internet -> terminal server client
[12:50] <MiSS_n00b> for the 4th time in 1 day:) yay
[12:50] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, fine you're a newbie.
[12:50] <frogzo1> ^BoyHenyo: I just add it to the task bar
[12:50] <Astxist> MiSS_n00b, should've used sudo
[12:50] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, but at least stop overusing root
[12:50] <Astxist> ;)
[12:50] <kbrooks> Astxist, um doesnt matter
[12:50] <kbrooks> sudo also has a major disadvantage too
[12:50] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru: problem solved, i recreated the partition using fdisk
[12:50] <Chousuke> should've NOT used sudo :)=
[12:51] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru: thank you
[12:51] <xxMEL0Nxx> ls
[12:51] <Chousuke> use sudo only if you do system administration
[12:51] <frogzo1> how to get sudo to redirect? eg sudo echo blah > /etc/blah   - doesn't redirect with root permission
[12:51] <gustav_> Did absolutely right exept for the /usr/ instead of usr/. The files were owned by root
[12:52] <Ng> MiSS_n00b: do you have /home on a separate partition? If not, you might want to, it makes re-installing much easier because you don't lose your files :)
[12:52] <Toma-> frogzo1: sudo echo "blah" | tee /etc/blah
[12:52] <Toma-> frogzo1: sorry,
[12:52] <MiSS_n00b> no seperate partition
[12:52] <Toma-> frogzo1: echo "blah" | sudo tee /etc/blah
[12:52] <frogzo1> Toma-: ah, nice thx
[12:52] <Toma-> np
[12:53] <kbrooks> Toma-, er, "tee" -> T. you send data to tee
[12:53] <kbrooks> and tee sends data to the file
[12:54] <kbrooks> and outputs it too
[12:54] <frogzo1> kbrooks: the point is that sudo tee can write files with root perm, whereas sudo echo > can't
[12:55] <kbrooks> frogzo1, all because of the magic of pipes
[12:55] <frogzo1> mind you, that still leaves >> with no sudo
[12:55] <steve_laptop> hello all
[12:56] <steve_laptop> ? whats the command to re-configure X
[12:56] <gustav_> steve_laptop: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:56] <steve_laptop> tnks
[12:59] <dAndy> anyone seen system clock gaining about 1 hour per day on breezy amd64?
[12:59] <Thorondor> does anyone know why the network settings manager keeps forgetting my WEP-key?
[01:01] <Ng> dAndy: does your cpu usage also seem unreasonably high even when the machine is idle? I've seen reports about a problem that shows up with the clock running fast and the cpu high
[01:02] <Ng> dAndy: otherwise it could just be that your motherboard has a cruddy clock (lots of them do) - installing ntp-server should help a lot
[01:02] <dAndy> Ng: i have ntp-server installed, but using /etc/init.d/ntp-server start does nothing
[01:02] <dAndy> Ng: my load average stays right around 0 most of the time
[01:03] <dAndy> DFI Lanparty nf4-D motherboard
[01:03] <dAndy> i run sudo /usr/sbin/ntpd manually just now, it kept running I will see if that works
[01:04] <Ng> "ntpq -p" will query the local server and show you how offset you currently are from the servers it's talking to
[01:04] <Nikusan> my gnome-bt works fine, but azureus wont. it shows the correct number of seeds and peers, but wont connect to any of them?
[01:09] <cafuego> !test
[01:09] <ubotu> Stop poking me!
[01:11] <javahollic> anyone got Firefox 1.5 running on AMD64 yet?
[01:12] <knotty_ian2005> hey
[01:12] <knotty_ian2005> i just wanna ask...this is not really a good question
[01:12] <knotty_ian2005> but i hope i get some help
[01:12] <knotty_ian2005> please
[01:13] <rowanjl> knotty_ian2005, the general rule is that if you need to ask a question, just ask. instead of annoying the hell out of people by asking if you can ask
[01:14] <knotty_ian2005> haha ha
[01:14] <knotty_ian2005> sorry
[01:14] <rowanjl> :)
[01:14] <knotty_ian2005> here's the question
[01:14] <knotty_ian2005> where can i download porns ?
[01:14] <rem_> the question is where CANT you ... ?? lol
[01:15] <Flessan> seek and ye shall find
[01:15] <rowanjl> Something about a new nova organization would be worth searching for
[01:16] <rem_> If an Ubuntu is installed over a Mandrake and I dont format the /home partition will It install Ubuntu and not erase my mdk files ... ? (Just making sure..)
[01:16] <docta_v> nova organization?
[01:16] <rowanjl> Can the hint get any bigger? :P
[01:16] <rowanjl> .org
[01:16] <docta_v> tpb is already there
[01:16] <rem_> ...anyone ?
[01:17] <docta_v> rem_: it won't erase the files in /home if you don't format it
[01:17] <dAndy> Ng: more info, killing ntpd , running ntpdate, running ntpd then monitoring with ntpq shows steadily increasing offsets
[01:17] <docta_v> however, the entire mandrake install isn't in /home it's everywhere else
[01:17] <dAndy> well steadily decreasing negative offsets
[01:18] <rem_> ok...
[01:18] <rem_> thx
[01:18] <dAndy> after maybe 1 minute of time since ntpdate I am about 5 seconds ahead of my top ntp server
[01:18] <docta_v> not sure what you're trying to do
[01:18] <rem_> it sound logical..but you never know ..
[01:18] <knotty_ian2005> where can i download porns?
[01:18] <rowanjl> knotty_ian2005, what kind of prons?
[01:19] <tristan> knotty_ian2005 : best way would be BitTorrent I think
[01:19] <knotty_ian2005> porns...anything
[01:19] <YukiIkyuta> knotty_ian2005, just google?!
[01:19] <Ng> dAndy: hmm, it's been a while since I last had to do it, but ntpd can either slew or step the time, you might want the step option, or there are tools like chrony for badl drifing clocks. not sure what else to suggest I'm afraid - the last clock problem I had was solved by not using an smp kernel, but that was a P4
[01:19] <rowanjl> knotty_ian2005, google for new nova, but make sure it ends in .org
[01:19] <knotty_ian2005> na...googling takes you to paysites
[01:19] <knotty_ian2005> nova waht?
[01:19] <docta_v> knotty_ian2005: have you ever heard of bit torrent?
[01:19] <rowanjl> "new nova"
[01:19] <knotty_ian2005> yeah
[01:20] <knotty_ian2005> i tried bit torrent
[01:20] <knotty_ian2005> but i always end up waiting for nothing
[01:20] <docta_v> then...you suck
[01:20] <dAndy> Ng: well I do have an smp kernel :)
[01:20] <rowanjl> Then make sure you pick a torrent with plenty of seeds
[01:20] <tristan> knotty_ian2005 : that means that you ail? This is really the best way IMO
[01:20] <rowanjl> knotty_ian2005, new nova .org
[01:20] <Ng> knotty_ian2005: does your ISP have a usenet (newsgroups) server? there's always alt.binaries... ;)
[01:20] <rowanjl> haha
[01:20] <DJ_Necrogami> im Recompiling PHP from Source Where do i redirect --with-mysql= to? for mysql Librarys so PHP Builds with MYSQL
[01:21] <YukiIkyuta> DJ_Necrogami, hello to you too!
[01:21] <DJ_Necrogami> hi
[01:21] <Ng> dAndy: hmm, well my problem was that I was running an smp kernel on a single hyperthreading cpu and it was seeing two clock ticks so running the clock twice as fast - I don't think that's the same as is happening to you. perhaps google can turn up something for your cpu/motherboard and clock issues?
[01:21] <knotty_ian2005> ha ha ha
[01:22] <knotty_ian2005> thanks people
[01:22] <knotty_ian2005> u r all great even helping people like me in great needs of crazy things
[01:22] <DJ_Necrogami> anyone know the answer you my question?
[01:22] <melonipoika> hi, i have problems installing eclipse-platform using synaptic, something with the repositories... does anyone witch one contains eclipse?
[01:22] <dAndy> Ng: didnt find anyone with similar issues with my mobo, anyway, It is very possible I am not setting up ntp right, thanks for the help
[01:22] <Ng> DJ_Necrogami: if you have the mysql dev package installed it should find it itself. are you sure you need to compile php by hand though?
[01:22] <DJ_Necrogami> yes NG
[01:22] <DJ_Necrogami> i need mysql support and Fastcgi support
[01:23] <Ng> mysql is available in the ubuntu php package, not sure about fastcgi though. I tend to just rebuild the package rather than build the tarball
[01:23] <Ng> php4-cgi - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (CGI binary)
[01:23] <Ng> that not do?
[01:23] <docta_v> knotty_ian2005: i messaged you a site to use
[01:23] <DJ_Necrogami> dosnt have mysql support
[01:24] <Ng> php4-mysql
[01:24] <knotty_ian2005> hey docta_v...i did not received anything
[01:24] <Ng> does :)
[01:24] <DJ_Necrogami> cant find it on my list
[01:24] <DJ_Necrogami> not in apt-get
[01:24] <DJ_Necrogami> and i want PHP 5 not 4
[01:24] <Ng> do you have universe enabled?
[01:24] <docta_v> knotty_ian2005: it's in another window...you might want to learn how to use IRC while you're learning bit torrent
[01:24] <DJ_Necrogami> doubtful
[01:24] <Ng> well enable universe and install php5-mysql and php5-cgi :)
[01:25] <DJ_Necrogami> meh
[01:25] <bigfoot1> hi
[01:25] <DJ_Necrogami> im not a fan of packaging
[01:25] <bigfoot1> how can i get japanese text input support in Opera browser?
[01:25] <Ng> DJ_Necrogami: your loss :)
[01:25] <czr> DJ_Necrogami, why don't you use gentoo then
[01:25] <czr> DJ_Necrogami, or build your own (LFS)
[01:26] <knotty_ian2005> i didn't get any window
[01:26] <DJ_Necrogami> because im not a fan of gentoo
[01:26] <Ng> DJ_Necrogami: to be fair, this is an ubuntu support channel, you are asking for php support by not using the packages in ubuntu, imho
[01:26] <kbrooks> DJ_Mirage, so?
[01:26] <DJ_Necrogami> Slackware Debian then Ubunutu
[01:26] <DJ_Necrogami> no
[01:27] <DJ_Necrogami> actaully i was asking where to find the lib for mysql in ubuntu
[01:27] <DJ_Necrogami> so that i CAN build php
[01:27] <Ng> DJ_Necrogami: in apt, of course. look for a -dev package
[01:27] <Seveas> DJ_Mirage, in php4-mysql
[01:27] <czr> libmysql-dev?
[01:27] <Seveas> or php5-mysql
[01:27] <Seveas> or libmysqlclient-dev (oslt)
[01:27] <knotty_ian2005> hey docta...what's the site?
[01:27] <Seveas> use the search, luke
[01:28] <dragoon> well my ubuntu install just finished on my desktop - using it now
[01:28] <dragoon> :)
[01:28] <tristan> docta_v : PM
[01:28] <docta_v> that's what i did man
[01:28] <docta_v> he doesn't know how to use that
[01:28] <docta_v> i think it's a lost cause
[01:29] <DJ_Necrogami> Seveas Ng, i got it
[01:29] <tristan> docta_v : I send you a pm
[01:30] <Ng> :)
[01:30] <bigfoot1> anybody use opera here? I'm trying to get Japanese input support. please help
[01:31] <tristan> bigfootl : sorry no
[01:31] <docta_v> tristan: ah...i hadn't signed in. send again please
[01:31] <som1> why on earth cant i use mpg321? it says "cant find suitable libao driver (is device in use?)"
[01:32] <som1> but it isnt, bullshit
[01:32] <tristan> docta_v : did you get it. I am not use to PM in IRC.... I just clicked right on your name and choose open a dialogue box. Is that the right thing to do?
[01:32] <som1> and that stuff only happens on ubuntu
[01:33] <docta_v> tristan: well i guess it only works if you've identified yourself with NickServ
[01:33] <kestas> som1, I assume you have libao installed
[01:34] <som1> kestas: yea
[01:34] <som1> oh and ogg123 says "cannot open device esd"
[01:34] <Nikusan>  my gnome-bt works fine, but azureus wont. it shows the correct number of seeds and peers, but wont connect to any of them?
[01:34] <YukiIkyuta> som1, tell us what "ps aux | grep esd | wc -l" and "ps aux | grep artsd | wc -l" say.
[01:35] <docta_v> Nikusan: does the firewall test work?
[01:35] <YukiIkyuta> Nikusan, (Mr Meat?!), sounds like your firewall needs fixing ..
[01:35] <bigfoot1> guys, i think i found a webpage that can help me get japanese input into my opera. but i don't know which post, if any, applies to me. Could someone please read through http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76985&highlight=opera+japanese and tell me.
[01:35] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, is Japanese working at all?
[01:35] <YukiIkyuta> As in, can you enter it elsewhere?
[01:35] <som1> its not running
[01:35] <som1> w8
[01:36] <som1> works ok now
[01:36] <som1> thx
[01:36] <YukiIkyuta> x_x
[01:36] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: with uim, i can enter japanese in other programs, such as gedit and openoffice writer, but not opera. i think it's because opera is using QT libraries, or so i hear.
[01:37] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, hmm, I agree. I'm using uim as well, and Firefox won't accept my input either.
[01:37] <YukiIkyuta> Reading that article now.
[01:37] <Nikusan> docta_v, YukiIkyuta firewall is fine
[01:37] <bigfoot1> oneigaishimasu
[01:37] <docta_v> Nikusan: the azureus firewall test passes?
[01:37] <Nikusan> docta_v, it sure does
[01:38] <docta_v> and you don't get any errors on the torrent? like maybe you need to register on the site?
[01:38] <siorai> why am I getting "bash: make: command not found" errors ?
[01:38] <basfrank> hi
[01:38] <Appie1> hi there
[01:38] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=434851&postcount=18 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=434851&postcount=19
[01:38] <siorai> I didnt' think that was possible, I'm SURE ubuntu comes with MAKE right?
[01:38] <YukiIkyuta> And I think you mean `onegai* shimasu'.
[01:38] <Appie1> can somebody helpme
[01:38] <Nikusan> docta_v, tested the exact same torrent in gnome torrent and it works
[01:38] <YukiIkyuta> siorai, It doesn't come with the GCC system at all.
[01:38] <basfrank> how can i configure my old isa creative sb 16 for ubuntu?
[01:38] <zal> question
[01:39] <wezzer> siorai: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:39] <YukiIkyuta> siorai, it is of course readily available via APT.
[01:39] <siorai> YukiIkyuta,  that's pretty effing basic though isn't it?
[01:39] <zal> i have a password problem
[01:39] <Appie1> does ubuntu uses amd x2 proc
[01:39] <dragoon> make: no target to make.
[01:39] <siorai> Lemme guess liscensing crap?
[01:39] <YukiIkyuta> Wellark, yes, but for the base system, it is left out.
[01:39] <YukiIkyuta> zal, what's wrong?
[01:39] <dragoon> thats on a default ubuntu install with X
[01:39] <dragoon> not server install
[01:39] <YukiIkyuta> Oops ..
[01:39] <Appie1> question
[01:40] <siorai> geeez
[01:40] <Appie1> does ubuntu uses the amd x2 proc
[01:40] <YukiIkyuta> siorai, definitely not licensing. If you follow wezzer's instructions as before (apt-get install build-essential), you'll get all the stuff you need.
[01:40] <basfrank> can anyone help me?
[01:40] <zal> thanks, i installed 5.10 on my ibook and when it restart the log and pass seems wrong
[01:40] <YukiIkyuta> There *is* no licensing. ^^
[01:40] <siorai> so THAT's why none of my make commands ever worked
[01:40] <knotty_ian2005> i have my fat32 partitions mounted already but i can't seem to change the files...how can i change that?
[01:40] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: i read through posts 18 and 19, but will they work with Opera?
[01:40] <siorai> Yeah, but why isn't that basic install ?
[01:40] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, SCIM is said to. That's what I read, at least.
[01:40] <zal> so i have to reset those, is there a way to do it without reinstalling?
[01:40] <siorai> I mean, for petes sake, that really SHOULD be bundled right?
[01:41] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: shall we both try it?
[01:41] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, sure thing.
[01:41] <knotty_ian2005> i have my fat32 partitions mounted already but i can't seem to change the files...how can i change that?
[01:41] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: okay, here i go.
[01:41] <YukiIkyuta> siorai, remember that one of Ubuntu's main concepts is to become a desktop, as well as a developer OS. I suppose that they expect developers can get the build essentials through APT themselves! ^^
[01:41] <basfrank> how can i configure my old isa creative sb 16 for ubuntu?
[01:41] <siorai> Yeah, but, lol, I'm not a developer, ; /
[01:41] <Thorondor> as a desktop user you don't need make. only as a programmer.
[01:41] <dragoon> alsaconf ?
[01:41] <siorai> and I've found uses for that already
[01:41] <Ng> siorai: most users will never need gcc
[01:41] <bimberi> siorai: make is on the CD, but not installed by default
[01:42] <basfrank> thanks
[01:42] <siorai> Gotta be kidding me
[01:42] <Ng> so putting all of the build stuff in the default install is pointless
[01:42] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, APT seems to be missing cim...
[01:42] <siorai> freaking wierd
[01:42] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: do you mean scim?
[01:42] <knotty_ian2005> i have my fat32 partitions mounted already but i can't seem to change the files...how can i change that?
[01:43] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, no `cim' ...
[01:43] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: is that needed?
[01:43] <YukiIkyuta> I would assume so, but I'm not sure.
[01:43] <YukiIkyuta> Let's see ...
[01:44] <Secreth`X> wtf.. FireFox crashes when it plays a video? :X
[01:44] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta:  i didn't see the word "cim" in the posts
[01:44] <YukiIkyuta> In #18, the first line:
[01:44] <YukiIkyuta> `sudo apt-get install scim scim-gtk2-immodule scim-modules-socket scim-modules-table scim-pinyin scim-tables-zh scim-input-pad'
[01:44] <siorai> My goal here is to be able to use alien, heh
[01:44] <knotty_ian2005> why do i always get unsuccessful torrent download?
[01:44] <YukiIkyuta> I'll just install scim and see what happens ...
[01:44] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: i see many "scim"s but no "cim.
[01:45] <bigfoot1> yux
[01:45] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: me too
[01:45] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, ah well. Also install scim-tables-ja if you want Japanese support. xP
[01:45] <knotty_ian2005> is there anyway i can force my torrent downloader to move faster?
[01:45] <zal> I have a problem:    ok here is my problem, yesterday i installed 5.10 on my ibook g4 and entered the same log and pass for 2 years. when it rebooted and i tried to log it was impossible, wrong log or pass...so is there a way to reset log and pass whitout reinstalling?
[01:45] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: what do you mean if i want japanese support? Japanese support is all i want..
[01:46] <rss> hi, I have a Microsoft IntelliMouse, its middle button and scroll wheel is not working, what to do?
[01:46] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, I know, it was kind of a joke - I maen, also install scim-tables-ja!
[01:46] <bigfoot1> By the way, Post 20 says he got the debs from a different source http://svn.ubuntu.org.cn/ubuntu-cn/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/scim/
[01:47] <YukiIkyuta> Hmm.
[01:47] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: but which deb(s) should we d/l and install?
[01:47] <YukiIkyuta> I think you will find that's the same as the normal site.
[01:47] <YukiIkyuta> He dpkg --installed the .deb files directly.
[01:47] <YukiIkyuta> But APT should be fine.
[01:48] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: ok. here i go with the apt.
[01:48] <YukiIkyuta> OK.
[01:48] <mbruemmer> hello having a question again: how do i run the minimal installer script??
[01:48] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: "E: Couldn't find package scim-modules-socket"
[01:49] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, I get similar errors. Just try "apt-get install scim" and it'll do the dependencies for you.
[01:49] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: ok.
[01:49] <YukiIkyuta> I'm going to restart X to see if it works, brb.
[01:50] <_triablo> how to install codecs for kaffeine ? I cp essential codecs in /usr/lib/win32 but does'n work
[01:52] <mbruemmer> hello having a question again: how do i run the minimal installer script??
[01:52] <dragoon> type server
[01:53] <dragoon> what are the codecs called
[01:53] <dragoon> like i know in gentoo there called win32codecs
[01:53] <_triablo> essential from mplayer home page
[01:54] <basfrank> dragoon,  there is no alsaconf inubuntu, is it?
[01:54] <Secreth`X> ubotu: tell dragoon about w32codecs
[01:54] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, it seemed to just make my system run a whole lot slower.
[01:54] <dragoon> yes
[01:54] <dragoon> apt-get install alsa-utils
[01:54] <basfrank> aaaaaha
[01:55] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, plus, it didn't actually work in Firefox either.
[01:55] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: does japanese input work?
[01:55] <bigfoot1> oh
[01:55] <ulinskie> where can I get glib-2.0?
[01:55] <bigfoot1> post 18 says you need to do 2 more sudo commands. did you, YukiIkyuta
[01:55] <bigfoot1> ?
[01:56] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, yes, of course.
[01:56] <SirGir> hmm no "msttcorefonts" for Ubuntu x86_64 ?
[01:56] <mbruemmer> dragoon: sever is the same as minimal??
[01:56] <YukiIkyuta> ulinskie, try "apt-get install libglib2.0-0"
[01:56] <crimsun> !info msttcorefonts
[01:56] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ]
[01:56] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[01:56] <dragoon> yeah i think so
[01:56] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: if i were using firefox, i think i'd use scim.
[01:56] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, well, it didn't seem to work, unfortunately.
[01:56] <bigfoot1> but because i use opera, i must use try anonther solution
[01:56] <bigfoot1> i see.
[01:57] <SirGir> crimsun, odd, can't find it
[01:57] <YukiIkyuta> SirGir, there seems to be a 64-bit version.
[01:57] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: does it work with other programs?
[01:57] <mbruemmer> dragoon: thank u! 4 ya help
[01:57] <dragoon> no problems
[01:57] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, no more than UIM worked with.
[01:57] <crimsun> SirGir: you don't have multiverse enabled, eh?
[01:57] <dragoon> anyway im off to bed... 23:27 here and i need to be awake at 6
[01:57] <dragoon> ciao
[01:57] <SirGir> crimsun, ah..
[01:57] <SirGir> Thanks
[01:57] <YukiIkyuta> See you, dragoon .
[01:57] <YukiIkyuta> Hm.
[01:57] <YukiIkyuta> 23:57 here.
[01:58] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta:  when i was on hoary, i got japanese support in firefox. how about you?
[01:58] <YukiIkyuta> Hah, I never used Hoary.
[01:58] <YukiIkyuta> I started on pre-5.10.
[02:00] <siorai> So, if I'm not wrong, the rpm-4.1.i386.tar.gz has a bunch of files in it's own tech tree that are supposed to go into my file system under the same tree
[02:00] <YukiIkyuta> Sionide, where did you get *that*?
[02:00] <YukiIkyuta> siorai*!
[02:00] <siorai> typing in "sudo tar -x rpm-4.1.i386.tar.gz"
[02:00] <Ng> siorai: rpm is available in apt if you really need it, but you shouldn't really need it
[02:01] <siorai> for alien? said it was required
[02:01] <Ng> ugh, alien ;)
[02:01] <Ng> if you install alien with apt it will install rpm too
[02:01] <siorai> Well, I guess I did it the hard way
[02:02] <Ng> always search apt first :)
[02:02] <Ng> most things you'll want will be in there
[02:02] <siorai> meanwhile my terminal is STILL taking forever
[02:02] <Ng> ?
[02:02] <siorai> typing in "sudo tar -x rpm-4.1.i386.tar.gz"
[02:03] <siorai> which, shuodl do what I want correct?
[02:03] <Ng> nope
[02:03] <siorai> no? lol
[02:04] <Ng> that'll be waiting for you to feed it a tarfile on stdin
[02:04] <siorai> .... to do what?
[02:04] <Ng> you would need tar -xzf foo.tar.gz  (the z means unzip and the f means a file)
[02:04] <Ng> stdin means what you type, basically
[02:04] <Ng> so it's waiting for you to type/paste a tar file into the terminal
[02:04] <Ng> ctrl-c it and install alien with apt, would be my recommendation :)
[02:05] <_triablo> how to set the path to codecs ? kaffeine is very minimal in kubuntu ?
[02:05] <Ng> (tar is a very old program originally designed to work with tape drives, not files, which is why it has some odd behaviours)
[02:05] <siorai> sudo apt-get alien ?
[02:05] <Ng> sudo apt-get install alien
[02:06] <siorai> then why is it practically the ONLY form of zip I see everywhere for binaries and junk?
[02:06] <Ng> ?
[02:06] <siorai> I see all kinds of crap in tar.gz
[02:06] <siorai> all over hte place
[02:06] <Ng> siorai: yeah, the developers of the software just release a tarball, the individual distributions then make packages
[02:07] <Ng> apt-get is installing alien/rpm from ubuntu's servers, not the alien/rpm authors' servers
[02:07] <siorai> ... if it's so old and crappy, why is it still use?
[02:07] <julo> hi again !
[02:07] <Ng> siorai: unix is 30 years old, your argument falls down instantly :)
[02:07] <siorai> ... I knew that, but, wouldn't it be better to get it from the authors? heh
[02:07] <Ng> no
[02:08] <julo> I noticed that Ubuntu doesn't have a /etc/rc.local script. Where should I add a command for it to be launched on boot, after all the services have been started ?
[02:08] <crimsun> julo: man update-rc.d
[02:08] <Chousuke> siorai: if you want the latest and greatest of everything, you can install gentoo
[02:08] <Chousuke> siorai: gentoo makes it really easy to install most recent releases of software.
[02:09] <Chousuke> only you have to do a lot of compiling :/
[02:09] <Ng> and it's way more hacky
[02:09] <siorai> Well, I don't mind doing a lot of work, I really don
[02:09] <Chousuke> gentoo's way is easier for installing packages with restricted licences.
[02:09] <siorai> But I'm rather fond of this community.. hehe
[02:09] <Chousuke> but I still prefer the Debian way :)
[02:10] <siorai> hm, what's the syntax for alien?
[02:10] <Ng> siorai: there's a lot to be said for doing things the hard way - you learn a lot about how the system works. I've been doing it long enough that I appreciate ease of use more than anything now ;)
[02:10] <Chousuke> Probably because my currently borken machine that used to run Debian/Ubuntu wasn't exactly a speed demon.
[02:10] <Chousuke> And I started with Debian too.
[02:10] <Chousuke> my first ever successful Linux install.
[02:11] <siorai> hahaha ng, if I wanted ease of use I'd go back to winders
[02:11] <adiabatty> I don't know why, but I had an easier time with the Gentoo install procedure than I did with the old Debian installer.
[02:12] <Ng> siorai: that's a pretty bizarre argument, but ok
[02:13] <Hentai^XP> hmm
[02:13] <siorai> I'm saying I despise ease of use
[02:13] <Chousuke> Windows ease of pretty much means a lot of wizards.
[02:13] <Chousuke> +use
[02:13] <Hentai^XP> windows, ease of use, hmmm
[02:13] <Chousuke> Windows isn't that good if you just want to get things done.
[02:13] <Ng> siorai: and I'm saying that's a pretty bizarre argument, the easier the system is to use the more time you can spend being productive, unless your goal is to use your system just to configure it ;)
[02:13] <Chousuke> your way, that is.
[02:14] <Chousuke> if you want to get them done the way MS thought you would, then it's nice.
[02:14] <maestro> where can i find a repository list to Breezy 64 bits?
[02:14] <jeremywhiting> Windows idea of ease of use is don't let the user change anything
[02:14] <Ng> maestro: synaptic can show you a full list of available packages, that's probably the quickest way, if you have X installed
[02:15] <siorai> ... I think MS's ultimate goal was to DE nerdify the computer world...
[02:15] <chrissturm> hey! is there a way to convert from ext3 to fat32 without losing data?
[02:15] <Chousuke> jeremywhiting: no. the idea is to let third party software do the stuff for you
[02:15] <siorai> and they almost have, the typical computer user is no long a geek, heh
[02:15] <jeremywhiting> Gentoo's idea of ease of use is don't do anything at all unless the user specifically asks for it to be done
[02:15] <mjr> chrissturm, no free way that I know of
[02:15] <Chousuke> siorai: yes, and it's a good goal
[02:15] <mjr> chrissturm, except, of course, backup, mkdosfs, restore
[02:15] <siorai> Chousuke I hate that idea
[02:15] <chrissturm> mjr: it seems that partitionmagic and partitionmanager also cant do it
[02:15] <Chousuke> siorai: too bad they failed. but it's still profitable.
[02:16] <Chousuke> they only managed to make the UI to emulate a nerd that's controlled by a clueless user.
[02:16] <Ng> siorai: surely linux therefore provides the best solution? the user interface is easy to use, but there is a fully fledged "geek" system underneath if you want to touch it :)
[02:17] <Chousuke> The UI is a bit geeky too
[02:17] <Chousuke> lots of stuff that's of no interest to non-geeks
[02:17] <chrissturm> ng: maybe you are talking about osx?
[02:17] <Chousuke> like interface names in a GUI network interface managers.
[02:17] <Thorondor> does anyone know why the networking manager forgets my WEP-Key? :(
[02:18] <lordlucless> Could anyone help me get ipop3d setup on ubuntu? Ive installed the package, but I dont know how to register it as a service
[02:18] <Hentai^XP> well siorai if you go back to windows, don't run as a admin
[02:18] <Ng> chrissturm: I try not to do that :)
[02:18] <Seveas> lordlucless, the package should do that by itseld
[02:19] <siorai> Hentai, I CAN"T go back to winders
[02:19] <Chousuke> OS X is a nice system too.
[02:19] <Hentai^XP> k siorai
[02:19] <lordlucless> I thought it should - all the other servers I installed did. But I cant get a connection on 110 - is there a way I can re-run the setup scripts from the package
[02:19] <lordlucless> ?
[02:19] <Hentai^XP> and whys that siorai ?
[02:19] <siorai> Well
[02:20] <maestro> Ng, in ubuntuguide.org, show how to install java sun pack, using APT, but this doen't work, have any another way?
[02:20] <dpupp> how do i remove a user and all their files?
[02:20] <siorai> I have a notebook, and my screen is shattered.  Normally, I can just push it out through the external with the touch of a button, but I've killed my notebook keyboard as well
[02:20] <dpupp> i was going to delete a user account but its saying files wont be deleted. and i want it all gone.
[02:20] <_jason> !ubuntuguide
[02:20] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[02:20] <Ng> maestro: firstly, close ubuntuguide and never go back, then look at the restrictedformats ubuntu wiki page, I believe that should tell you how to install sun's java :)
[02:20] <_jason> ubotu, tell maestro about java
[02:21] <jeremywhiting> lordlucless: first verify that it's not running on the port, try netstat -tlpn and see if port 110 is in the list
[02:21] <lordlucless> Nope, nothings running on 110
[02:21] <dpupp> is it safe to delete the home folder of a user that is no longer??
[02:21] <siorai> hm... crap
[02:22] <_jason> dpupp, there is an argument you can pass-- you will want to read the man page "man deluser" since there are a couple of options
[02:22] <jeremywhiting> lordlucless: then see if you have inetd running/installed, maybe it's supposed to use that
[02:23] <dpupp> thanks _Jason.
[02:24] <Hentai^XP> guess I will install debian
[02:24] <siorai> apt-get install java/jre neither worked... how odd
[02:24] <frogzo1> !java
[02:24] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:24] <ptlo> hi. is there a mini-cd of ubuntu that i could use just to boot the install process, and do a network install? i wouldn't want to download the entire image for that
[02:24] <lordlucless> ps -ef | grep inetd only returns the grep copmmand itself, so I assume inetd is not running
[02:24] <Ng> inetd isn't installed by default, if that's of any help?
[02:24] <jeremywhiting> lordlucless: and see if there's an init script for it in /etc/init.d/ if so do sudo /etc/init.d/scriptname start
[02:24] <jeremywhiting> lordlucless: you are correct
[02:25] <jeremywhiting> I think, I've never used ps -ef before though
[02:25] <jeremywhiting> what do those options do to ps?
[02:25] <jeremywhiting> yeah, that works
[02:25] <lordlucless> Because I just had a quick look in the man file to see how to list every process and thats what it said :P
[02:25] <dpupp> ok... its not allowing me to delete the user. Not accepting my sudo PW... :(
[02:26] <lordlucless> there arent any /etc/init.d scripts either
[02:26] <lordlucless> Well, nothing to do with pop3 anyway
[02:27] <lordlucless> There's nothing in /etc/inetd.conf about pop3 either, so I assume its supposed to run as a standalone
[02:28] <jeremywhiting> that probably means it's supposed to use inetd and get started when someone connects to that port
[02:29] <lordlucless> But theres no metion of it in /etc/inetd.conf - I thought it would have to be referenced in there to be used with inetd
[02:29] <cricek> guys i need a good ubuntu repository
[02:29] <jeremywhiting> I personally have only used inetd in debian, and haven't been able to use it the same way in ubuntu, but have just installed servers that run as daemons instead of using it so far
[02:29] <cricek> where's that site for repository creation ?
[02:29] <jeremywhiting> it's the lazy way out, don't learn it, just work around it :)
[02:29] <lordlucless> Yeah, no other servers Ive installed are using it atm
[02:29] <Seveas> !tell cricek about easysource
[02:30] <jeremywhiting> I'd do a search on ubuntuforums.org for ipop3d and see what turns up
[02:30] <lordlucless> okily dokily
[02:30] <cricek> Yeah done
[02:30] <cricek> :)
[02:30] <cricek> tnx
[02:30] <frogzo1> jeremywhiting: inetd has security features, or better, xinetd
[02:30] <frogzo1> *xinetd*
[02:30] <trappist> I love qpopper for pop3
[02:31] <frogzo1> !wine
[02:32] <siorai> !pastebin
[02:32] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:32] <_jason> what does gnome-pty-helper do?  I have 101 instances of it running
[02:32] <Jowi> hello everyone
[02:32] <siorai> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/452421
[02:32] <bertrand> test
[02:33] <jack_> Hi!! How can I install microsoft fonts such as "Trebuchet"  ..
[02:33] <Seveas> jack_, apt-get install msttcorefonts
[02:34] <_jason> jack-, you'll need multiverse enabled as well
[02:35] <jack_> I have.. I try.. respect to you... haha..
[02:35] <Jowi> jack_: if you already have the fonts on your harddisk you can simply copy them to your /home/username/.fonts directory.
[02:35] <lordlucless_> grr
[02:35] <everton137> Hi, does someone here have upload photos from a mobile on Linux? Any tips? I have a Nokia 6235. Thanks
[02:35] <cricek> Hmm and how to install KDE 3.5 ?
[02:35] <cricek> any idea ?
[02:35] <aeon17x> cricek: get the kubuntu-desktop package.
[02:35] <aeon17x> but wait... that's for kde 3.4, so...
[02:36] <barton__> hello all
[02:36] <aeon17x> I believe there are instructions in the kubuntu site.
[02:36] <cricek> OK i'll try to find em
[02:36] <_jason> can someone do "ps aux | grep -c gnome-pty-helper"  I'd just like to know if having 101 instances of this thing is normal.  thanks
[02:36] <siorai> yea!
[02:36] <siorai> **GOAL ACHEIVED**
[02:37] <MoonRanger> how do you install inetd
[02:37] <barton__> where can I find cedega and it's engine sources for free??
[02:37] <jeremywhiting> _jason: not normal
[02:37] <Jowi> _jason: 1 - but i am not running gnome (may or may not be important)
[02:37] <jeremywhiting> I have one instance
[02:38] <jeremywhiting> and I am running gnome
[02:38] <_jason> jeremywhiting, Jowi: thanks.  Anyone have any ideas why?
[02:38] <barton__> where can I find cedega and it's engine sources for free??
[02:39] <jeremywhiting> barton__ good luck
[02:39] <barton__> :-)
[02:39] <barton__> it is so hard to find it?
[02:40] <Jowi> barton__: not really, but this is not a warez channel.
[02:40] <jareth> barton_: if you want it plz pay for it
[02:40] <chrissturm> barton__, if you want to do warez, why dont you use windows?
[02:40] <chrissturm> that reminds me, i need to cancel my cedega subscription
[02:40] <barton__> I thought that linux open source soft is free
[02:41] <_jason> barton__, if you want to read the source code, I believe it is available on the main site.  try googling "cedega source".  Although I don't use cedega so I don't know what the "cdega engine" refers to
[02:41] <Ng> barton__: you can download the cedega source and compile it yourself
[02:41] <everton137> haha
[02:41] <everton137> (wasntme)
[02:41] <Ng> barton__: you won't get all of the features though
[02:41] <aeon17x> barton__: "free" doesn't mean it's in price.
[02:41] <chrissturm> cedega only runs acceptable on nvidia cards
[02:41] <Ng> barton__: some software is open source, but not all of it, there is plenty of commercial software for linux if you want to pay for it, but thankfully most of the time you don't need to :)
[02:41] <barton__> I have one
[02:41] <_jason> barton__, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[02:42] <barton__> Ng: so there no warez for windows at all? (((
[02:43] <Ng> barton__: I expect there is a lot of warez for windows, but I don't care about either
[02:43] <barton__> :) but I don't need cedega in Windows
[02:44] <Ng> so download the cedega source and compile it yourself, problem solved
[02:44] <Ng> or pay $15
[02:44] <jareth> barton_: support the developpers and buy cedega. you will get full-feature
[02:44] <barton__> thanks
[02:45] <Jowi> barton__: if you're trying to just get an older game going, try wine. sometimes it is good enough to work.
[02:46] <schmoe> hey there - anyone like to talk kphone/fwd/nufone/800-number? :D
[02:47] <barton__> and what can I use in Ububntu for MuOnline going?
[02:47] <ZigZag> Hi! Does anyone know how to enable a PS2 wireless mouse via a PS2->USB adapter in ubuntu?
[02:47] <ZigZag> I need it real bad, a school project is depending on this
[02:47] <sig> lately I've been getting errors after my laptop has been on for a few days.... What happens is I click an application and it fails to start.. (firefox, evolution, etc...). I get failed to write to read system only. Has anyone else been getting these errors?
[02:48] <poningru> Zibby: um the ps2 mouse should be detected automatically
[02:49] <poningru> can you give the model number?
[02:49] <ZigZag> poningru: we've tried like three of them now. most of them are logitech
[02:50] <Ng> sig: does the laptop go into suspend/hibernate modes? sometimes that can confuse things and it doesn't restore properly
[02:50] <ZigZag> poningru: it's a liveCD version too, I should add
[02:50] <Ng> sig: otherwise, you might want to run memtest for a while on it
[02:50] <sig> Ng: yeah it started doing this when I upgraded to the latest kernel
[02:50] <Jowi> ZigZag: question is, would you try to detect the mouse as usb or ps2 when it is connected like that?
[02:50] <ZigZag> it doesn't recognize it... which maybe isn't very strange since it's going through a PS2-to-USB adapter
[02:51] <ZigZag> Jowi: precisely. I don't know. But it didn't autodetect on boot
[02:51] <poningru> ZigZag: why arent you directly connecting the ps2?
[02:51] <Ng> sig: hmm, in that case you should definitely report a bug to ubuntu
[02:51] <ZigZag> poningru: no ps2 port :/
[02:51] <poningru> oh doh
[02:51] <poningru> hehe
[02:51] <phiqtion> how can i get azureus on ubuntu?
[02:51] <ZigZag> poningru: otherwise I wouldn't be panicking and asking around irc...
[02:51] <sig> Ng: ok
[02:51] <poningru> ZigZag: true
[02:52] <poningru> !azureus
[02:52] <ubotu> it has been said that azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[02:52] <ZigZag> poningru: any ideas?
[02:52] <Ng> sig: also might be worth downgrading the kernel and see if it still happens
[02:52] <sig> yeah
[02:52] <poningru> ZigZag: yeah there was a howto written for logitech mouse
[02:52] <phiqtion> poningru: thanks
[02:52] <poningru> trying to find it
[02:52] <ZigZag> poningru: thx
[02:52] <poningru> but which model was it again?
[02:52] <Jowi> ZigZag: well, when you configure the kernel by hand, i have not seen a mousedriver like that. either USB, PS/2 or Serial are supported as far as I have seen. No idea how the kernel would make of a connection like that. See if you can get a "normal" mouse to work first, without an adapter.
[02:52] <sanjay> does BitTorrent still work ?
[02:53] <poningru> ZigZag: wait you are not using the livecd right?
[02:53] <deltron_> I use the bittorrent commandline :P
[02:53] <phiqtion> poningru: you're the man
[02:53] <ZigZag> Jowi: normal mice work just fine. both wireless and regular. just not with the adapter.
[02:53] <ZigZag> poningru: yes I am
[02:53] <ZigZag> why?
[02:53] <poningru> ZigZag: hmm that might cause problems supposedly
[02:54] <ZigZag> poningru: with adapters specifically? I'm willing to do hackish stuff like rebooting xorg and stuff...
[02:54] <poningru> dude when the live cd boots up go for options, and then try to look for usb
[02:54] <Ng> ZigZag: did the adapter come with the mouse?
[02:54] <ZigZag> Ng: no.
[02:55] <Ng> give up
[02:55] <ZigZag> Ng: why?
[02:55] <poningru> oh ZigZag then its not going to work
[02:55] <poningru> oh well maybe it will
[02:55] <Ng> generally the adapters are pretty dumb, the mouse detects which kind of port it's in and behaves differently
[02:55] <ZigZag> but how are they supposed to work otherwise?
[02:56] <Jowi> ZigZag: you probably would need a special driver for the adapter itself.
[02:56] <Ng> so if it's a mouse that doesn't know how to be both ps2 and usb it won't work
[02:56] <poningru> ZigZag: the problem is with usb mouse dont have a standard protocols
[02:56] <Ng> unless the adapter is able to do the translation itself
[02:56] <USER014921> WORKS1
[02:56] <ZigZag> ok. the adapter looks pretty generic... we got it here at uni
[02:56] <Ng> but if it's a little tiny plastic thing from another mouse it almost certainl can't
[02:56] <ZigZag> Ng: ok
[02:56] <poningru> ZigZag: whats the model of the adapter?
[02:56] <cricek> hmmm win32codecs repository ?
[02:57] <poningru> !win32codecs
[02:57] <ubotu> methinks win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[02:57] <ZigZag> how do you check that?
[02:57] <ZigZag> it's just a wire
[02:57] <poningru> ZigZag: should be on the adapter somewhere
[02:57] <poningru> oh
[02:57] <poningru> hmm what about the packaging or something
[02:57] <ZigZag> the wire says things like HAURTIAN
[02:57] <ZigZag> have no package
[02:57] <ZigZag> just found the wire =)
[02:57] <poningru> wtf
[02:58] <ZigZag> the ports are right. must be an adapter
[02:58] <poningru> haurtian what?
[02:58] <ZigZag> LL112842
[02:59] <ZigZag> AWM I/II A FT2
[02:59] <ZigZag> where are you looking poningru?
[02:59] <Tenoch> Hi
[02:59] <poningru> ZigZag: just google
[03:00] <ZigZag> poningru: I've been googling my ass off lately... seem to be googling wrong somehow =))
[03:00] <Kimppa> Hi. I killed esd "killall esd" and now I need to restart it.. but don't know quite how? :P
[03:01] <poningru> ZigZag: yeah dude this thing would need some sort of driver or something
[03:01] <poningru> I cant find it on google at all
[03:02] <Jowi> ZigZag: the color of the PS/2, is it green or purple?
[03:02] <poningru> ZigZag: what do you need to do? as in why are you using the livecd?
[03:02] <Bizzeh> hey, is there any way to get ubuntu to install to a second partiton and NOT kill the xp boot sector on the main partition
[03:02] <poningru> Bizzeh: ofcourse
[03:02] <ZigZag> Jowi: I have both. plugged in to the green one, it has a small mouse painted on it
[03:02] <Bizzeh> even if i tell it to install to the partition and NOT the mbr, it still fucks with the mbr
[03:03] <poningru> Bizzeh: it probably installed grub
[03:03] <Jowi> ZigZag: yeah, green is for mouse alright. similar to this one: http://www.usbgear.com/USB_TO_PS2_CONVERTER/
[03:03] <poningru> you should have have it not install grub
[03:03] <Bizzeh> when i told it not to do?
[03:03] <Bizzeh> "install boot loader to this parition"
[03:03] <Kimppa> any ideas how I can get esd back up?
[03:03] <poningru> Bizzeh: how did you tell it not to install grub?
[03:03] <ZigZag> poningru: using a laptop that isn't mine.
[03:03] <keizers> hello guys, is there anybody who know printing?
[03:04] <poningru> ZigZag: ah ic
[03:04] <Bizzeh> i told it to just use the partition its on, and keep away from everything else, everything else is out of bounds, do not touch anything outside hda2
[03:04] <ZigZag> Jowi: looks like that yes
[03:04] <poningru> Bizzeh: I dont understand what you are saying how did you tell it to do that?
[03:04] <ZigZag> similar at least, the ports are the same
[03:04] <poningru> during which part of the installation did you specifiy that?
[03:04] <Bizzeh> when install asks me how do i want to set up the drive
[03:05] <Bizzeh> i say "use partition x only"
[03:05] <Jowi> ZigZag: Does it work in any other OS?
[03:05] <poningru> Bizzeh: thats not what that means
[03:05] <Bizzeh> "where do you want to install the boot loader to" "partition x, NOT mbr"
[03:05] <Tenoch> I have a question about the live CD : does it mount the hard drive at all ?
[03:05] <ZigZag> Jowi: we have windows. didn't seem too... but then windows desn't have the installed drivers that linux has
[03:05] <Tenoch> I need to use it on a computer that's not mine
[03:05] <keizers> when i want to print a photo at 4x6 the photo only comes on the and of the page, about 2 cm, what to do :S
[03:05] <Tenoch> and without leaving marks of it...
[03:06] <poningru> Bizzeh: if my memory serves me correctly it doesnt have that option, dont remember though
[03:06] <ZigZag> Tenoch: you should be fine. I'm doing it now...
[03:06] <Kimppa> Hmm... I guess I'll have to do the same thing as in Windows - reboot to get something to work :/
[03:06] <Bizzeh> ok, ubuntu gets thrown then
[03:06] <Bizzeh> ill move back to getnoo
[03:06] <Tenoch> ZigZag: cool :)
[03:06] <Bizzeh> gentoo even
[03:06] <poningru> Bizzeh: go for it
[03:06] <Jowi> ZigZag: so the adapter may be broken then. according to the page for the other usb/Ps2 converter, no driver should be needed in either win or linux.
[03:07] <poningru> Jowi: going from usb->ps2 is different
[03:07] <poningru> going from ps2->usb would need drivers
[03:07] <ZigZag> poningru: but that one looks like a PS2->USB. look at the picture
[03:07] <poningru> especially if its for keyboard+mouse
[03:07] <poningru> oh where?
[03:07] <keizers> when i want to print a photo at 4x6 the photo only comes on the and of the page, about 2 cm, what to do :S
[03:07] <poningru> link?
[03:07] <ZigZag> on the link
[03:07] <ZigZag> http://www.usbgear.com/USB_TO_PS2_CONVERTER/
[03:07] <Jowi> poningru: yeah, but it is a usb -> ps/2
[03:08] <poningru> oh hmm
[03:08] <ZigZag> depends on which way you look at it from
[03:08] <cricek> Hmm w32codecs on amd64 ?
[03:08] <keizers> when i want to print a photo at 4x6 the photo only comes on the end of the page, about 2 cm, what to do :S
[03:08] <valdyn> cricek: dont work
[03:08] <cricek> anyone ?
[03:08] <poningru> hmm you are right
[03:08] <poningru> cricek: no
[03:08] <cricek> at all ?
[03:08] <poningru> none
[03:08] <valdyn> cricek: at all
[03:08] <cricek> damn
[03:09] <poningru> ZigZag: yeah dude then it must be the adapter
[03:09] <cricek> how come my suse 9.3 played evrything ?
[03:09] <poningru> cricek: what format?
[03:09] <poningru> cricek: err what codec?
[03:09] <cricek> xvid...nso
[03:09] <valdyn> cricek: its video player can be 32bit even if the 'system' is 64bit
[03:09] <deltron_> videolan client :D
[03:10] <ZigZag> but how can the adaptor know what kind of stuff is plugged into it? It should need some configuring or drivers or something it seems...
[03:10] <poningru> xvid is the free implementation of divx and can be played in vlc
[03:10] <netdur> which debian respo (stable or unstable) should I use with breezy?
[03:10] <poningru> ZigZag: apperantly not
[03:10] <poningru> netdur: neither
[03:10] <Jowi> ZigZag: probably a chip in between the usb and ps/2 connector that does all the translation.
[03:10] <cricek> Uff ok
[03:10] <ZigZag> poningru: 2 minutes ago someone said it didn't work at all...
[03:10] <netdur> poningru, so what to do with missing packages?
[03:10] <Ng> ZigZag: if it's just a tiny little adapter that came with a mouse, it won't be doing anythig, the mouse will need to translate ps2/usb
[03:10] <ishit> how do i kill a program in ubuntu
[03:10] <poningru> netdur: what are you looking for?
[03:11] <poningru> ishit: go into system monitor and end process
[03:11] <Ng> ZigZag: if it's a separate product for connecting ps2/usb mice then you can ignore what I said, but if it came with a specific mouse and you're using it with another, my money says it won't work
[03:11] <netdur> avidemux
[03:11] <Flessan> how does one tell at what level one is looged in at?
[03:11] <Jowi> ishit: kill or xkill (xkill is point and click to kill a window/program)
[03:11] <ZigZag> Ng: it has ports for both mouse and keyboard. don't know what it came with.
[03:12] <poningru> ishit: yeah right click on an empty portion of a panel
[03:12] <_jason> ishit, you have a couple of options:  you can add the "force quit" applet to your panel (the others were mentioned above)
[03:12] <poningru> and add to panel a force quite
[03:12] <ishit> i tried that but it gives an error
[03:12] <poningru> netdur: if you can just get the .deb then it should be fine
[03:12] <ishit> $ kill esd
[03:13] <ishit> bash: kill: esd: arguments must be process or job IDs
[03:13] <ishit> this is wat i get
[03:13] <Jowi> ishit: "killall esd"
[03:13] <netdur> deb has it dependens!!! on site they I should use this "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main"
[03:13] <ishit> kk
[03:14] <Jowi> ishit: "ps -A | grep esd" will give you a job ID. then use "kill idnumber" to kill it. or use "killall esd".
[03:14] <netdur> sorry for typos
[03:14] <poningru> netdur: if the package is not in ubuntu you probably are fine using the repositories
[03:14] <ishit> thnx it worked
[03:14] <poningru> but the problem is if in future its added to ubuntu it will conflict and mess it up
[03:15] <keizers> isn't there anybody who can help me with my problem
[03:15] <Ng> adding the marillat repositories is generally not a good idea
[03:15] <Ng> they are for debian
[03:15] <poningru> keizers: whats the problem?
[03:15] <Jowi> keizers: ask and you might be lucky
[03:15] <netdur> poningru, yeah... but they has three repos, stable, unstable and testing... which one is "closed" to ubuntu?
[03:15] <keizers> when i want to print a photo at 4x6 the photo only comes on the end of the page, about 2 cm, what to do :S
[03:16] <Ng> netdur: which packages do you need from that repository?
[03:16] <poningru> closest would be unstable, but I seriously recomend just compiling it yourself
[03:16] <lordlucless> Why is postfix trying to delete /etc/localtime?
[03:16] <netdur> Ng, avidemux
[03:16] <Seveas> netdur, don't use debian/marillat
[03:16] <Seveas> avidemux is in the cipherfunk ubuntu repository
[03:17] <kestas> in a bash script is there any way to set a hook for ctrl-C, so when I press ctrl-C it runs the function before stopping?
[03:17] <netdur> Seveas, url
[03:17] <Seveas> kestas, yes
[03:17] <deltron> cipherfunk repos?
[03:17] <Seveas> trap INT stop_func
[03:17] <deltron> cipherfunk is a wicked name :D
[03:17] <Seveas> function stop_func() { ...}
[03:17] <keizers> mm, then no body know an answer i think :S:S :(:(\
[03:17] <Jowi> keizers: I don't have a printer here. but first, do a "print testpage" and see if that one comes out alright. if it does, check the print properties to see if all the settings are correct.
[03:17] <poningru> !cipherfunk
[03:17] <ubotu> poningru: Not a clue
[03:17] <Seveas> deltron, ftp://ftp.cipherfunk.org
[03:17] <Ng> keizers: trap
[03:17] <deltron> sweet, thanks Seveas
[03:17] <keizers> a normal a4 does print normaly
[03:17] <Ng> keizers: see what Seveas says
[03:17] <keizers> only 4x6 paper doesn;t
[03:18] <Ng> err
[03:18] <Ng> kestas I mean
[03:18] <Ng> sorry
[03:18] <keizers> Ng what did saveas say?
[03:18] <lordlucless> Can anyone tell me why postfix is trying to delete /etc/localtime when I run it?
[03:18] <Jowi> keizers: then i don't know, sorry
[03:18] <kestas> Seveas, Ng thanks
[03:18] <Ng> keizers: sorry, I meant to talk to kestas, please ignore what I said :)
[03:19] <keizers> Ng ok cool
[03:19] <Jowi> keizers: have you checked here?
[03:19] <Seveas> kestas, man trap
[03:19] <Jowi> !printing
[03:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, printing is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[03:19] <Seveas> I had it wrong :)
[03:19] <Seveas> it's trap stop_func INT
[03:19] <Flessan> how does one tell at what level one is looged in at?
[03:19] <kestas> Seveas, its the oth-- ah k
[03:19] <kestas> was about to tell you ;)
[03:19] <netdur> Seveas, can you tell me how do I enable cipherfunk respo?
[03:19] <Seveas> or even SIGINT
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> Flessan: hm.? whoami?
[03:19] <Seveas> !tell netdur about easysource
[03:19] <frogz> Flessan: runlevel - usually 2
[03:19] <Jowi> Flessan: "runlevel"
[03:20] <Flessan> I am very new to all this
[03:21] <keizers> does anyone know cedega in here?
[03:21] <ishit> anybody some help on jack
[03:21] <frogz> Flessan: everyone starts somewhere
[03:21] <Jowi> Flessan: "most" linux distros uses other numbers I've seen, but ubuntu uses 2 for normal graphical level.
[03:21] <Flessan> true
[03:21] <whyameye> Breezy crashes ocassionally on my Dell D600 laptop. How might I troubleshoot this?
[03:21] <ishit> i try to start it but it says cannot load alsa module
[03:21] <Jowi> graphical and multiuser that is
[03:22] <Jowi> whyameye: is it an app that hangs or is it the whole system?
[03:22] <jeremywhiting> whyameye, when you say crashes, what do you mean?
[03:22] <frogz> whyameye: 1st - check /var/log/messages for errors
[03:22] <whyameye> Jowi, jeremywhiting: if I leave it on the screensaver, it will eventually hang. Doesn't matter which screensaver.
[03:23] <frogz> !tell ishit about sound
[03:23] <Jowi> whyameye: sounds like acpi/apm and the hybernation thing that causes it. but i have no laptop here
[03:24] <whyameye> Jowi, after much fiddling, acpi works. I disabled all power management in the screen saver, but that doesn't help.
[03:24] <frogz> whyameye: what is your gfx card?
[03:24] <whyameye> frogz: ATI Mobility 9000. I am using the ATI drivers that came with the Breezy installation.
[03:24] <Jowi> !laptop
[03:24] <ubotu> methinks laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[03:25] <Jowi> look at those links whyameye, they might give you a hint
[03:25] <frogz> whyameye: suggest you install the fglrx drivers
[03:25] <whyameye> ubotu: I checked those already. They say the D600 works.
[03:25] <ubotu> whyameye: Are you on ritalin?
[03:25] <Jowi> whyameye: ubotu is a bot
[03:25] <whyameye> frogz: the fglrx drivers are known not to work with hibernation and/or standby according to many sites.
[03:25] <frogz> whyameye: ubotu is a bot, btw
[03:26] <ZigZag> gotta go now. thanks for all your help guys!
[03:26] <jeremywhiting> whyameye: have you tried disabling the screensaver altogether?
[03:26] <Jowi> ZigZag: good luck to you
[03:26] <ZigZag> you rock and rule like a rock and a ruler
[03:26] <ZigZag> thx
[03:26] <frogz> whyameye: but dont't give me trouble with my screensaver :)
[03:26] <whyameye> jeremywhiting: I suppose that's a good idea. Then leave it and see if it hangs, huh?
[03:26] <jeremywhiting> yeah
[03:26] <jeremywhiting> that might be one workaround at least
[03:26] <tristan> whyameye : what's your screen resolution?
[03:26] <whyameye> frogz, if I don't have hibernation or standby, basically I'm goin back to WinXP. Hate to say it. I'm travelling with my laptop all the time.
[03:27] <whyameye> tristan, 1400x1050
[03:27] <jeremywhiting> my ati desktop machine would hang on certain opengl screensavers for some reason
[03:27] <jeremywhiting> so I just set mine to blank screen only and it works fine
[03:27] <whyameye> jeremywhiting: yes this is definitely a possibility. I noticed that it is crashing with OpenGL screensavers....
[03:27] <tristan> whyameye : so it is a wide screen. My screen resol is 1280 x 800. My xorg.conf works fine. Want me to copy/paste the part for the screen in a chat with you?
[03:27] <jeremywhiting> some day I'll go through and disable the ones that hang so I can enjoy all the others
[03:28] <whyameye> tristan: are you suggesting I run at a lower resolution?
[03:28] <Hellfried> I just upgraded from hoary to breezy and have this problem that my computer hangs, and I haven't any clue about what it is. It's not about starting a special application or anything, it just hangs every now and then.  And I've found nothing in syslog or kernellog
[03:28] <frogz> tristan: yes please - I'd like a look 2
[03:28] <jeremywhiting> Hellfried: mine did too, then I realized it was a motherboard problem
[03:29] <whyameye> tell me about this ubotu bot. I had no idea. Is it just reading the posts and using some sort of pattern rec to "offer" something?
[03:29] <jeremywhiting> cause windows would do the same thing
[03:29] <Jowi> whyameye: nah, you have to ask/tell it what you want
[03:29] <frogz> Hellfried: your psu up to the task?
[03:29] <deltron> whyameye: ubotu is an infobot hybrid
[03:29] <Hellfried> jeremywhiting: it never hung with hoary, you're suggesting that it's got broken just now?
[03:29] <frogz> !tell whyameye about ubuto
[03:29] <Hellfried> frogz: psu?
[03:29] <jeremywhiting> Hellfried: I'm just telling you what happened to me
[03:30] <frogz> !tell whyameye about ubotu
[03:30] <jeremywhiting> breaking at the same time you upgraded can happen, stranger things have, that's for sure
[03:30] <matthew_w> What's a program similar to "fruityloops" or "cakewalk" for Ubuntu?
[03:30] <Hellfried> agreed
[03:30] <whyameye> matthew_w: try rosegarden
[03:31] <crankshaft> how does one install thesaurus for openoffice.org2 -- i'm using synaptec and can't find the package ( i found it for version openoffice.org 1 however selecting it uninstalls openoffice.org v.2)
[03:31] <tristan> whyameye : cannot use chat. I have to register. Any idea where I can paste it?
[03:31] <matthew_w> Rosegarden, gotcha, thanks!
[03:31] <frogz> !pastebin
[03:31] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[03:32] <whyameye> tristan, is the pastebin going to work?
[03:32] <rednaxel> !ubotu
[03:32] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[03:32] <Hellfried> frogz: psu?
[03:32] <frogz> psu = power supply unit
[03:33] <Hellfried> ah
[03:33] <Hellfried> i guess so
[03:33] <zAo^> what MP3 player are you using??
[03:33] <tristan> whyameye : done on .com
[03:33] <Hellfried> anyone have an idea about where to look for messages that may give me a hint?
[03:34] <frogz> Hellfried: grep -i error /var/log/messages
[03:34] <Jowi> zAo^: software: rhythmbox, hardware: Samsung yp6z
[03:34] <jeremywhiting> Hellfried: install sensord and see if any voltage alarms go off in your logs
[03:34] <zAo^> Jowi, thnx, but rhythmbox just crashes here now and then
[03:35] <whyameye> tristan: got it. What are suggesting is the problem or rather how is this conf going to help me?
[03:35] <tristan> whyameye : my ati drivers are the new one from the ATI website
[03:35] <frogz>  Hellfried another possibility is install smartmontools & run a disk check
[03:35] <Jowi> Hellfried: I would use a livecd to see if i would get the same prob. but that's just me. maybe your pc manufacturer also have a hardware diagnostic tool that you can run on the computer.
[03:35] <jeremywhiting> I did that and got ton's of em, then once I rebooted the motherboard only recognized one processor socket on my dual processor motherboard and all was fine afterward
[03:35] <whyameye> tristan: so you are suggestiong the fgrlx (or something like that) drivers?
[03:35] <zAo^> Hellfried, tried to boot single-user?
[03:35] <whyameye> tristan: do you use hibernate or suspend?
[03:36] <tristan> whyame : no the ATI drivers on ATI website
[03:36] <tristan> I don't know what my screensaver do after sometime
[03:36] <tristan> It just goes black screen
[03:36] <Jowi> zAo^: there is also xmms, beep media player etc
[03:36] <whyameye> tristan: okay so do I have to install the drivers from the ATI website first?
[03:37] <tristan> whyame  : yes
[03:37] <zAo^> Jowi, tried both, now on Banshee. I use xfce and wanted intergration like Rhythmbox
[03:37] <whyameye> tristan: cool. Will do.
[03:38] <Jowi> zAo^: Rhythmbox is stable for me. I disabled ESD completely and only use ALSA. Works fine for me.
[03:39] <zAo^> Jowi, how can I disable ESD? Urls?
[03:39] <ishit> wen i try to start jack i get this error    $ jackd -R -p 512  -d alsa
[03:39] <ishit> jackd 0.99.0
[03:39] <ishit> Copyright 2001-2003 Paul Davis and others.
[03:39] <ishit> jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
[03:39] <ishit> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
[03:39] <ishit> under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
[03:39] <ishit> loading driver ..
[03:40] <ishit> creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
[03:40] <ishit> control device hw:0
[03:40] <ishit> configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames, buffer = 2 periods
[03:40] <ishit> Couldn't open hw:0 for 32bit samples trying 24bit instead
[03:40] <ishit> Couldn't open hw:0 for 24bit samples trying 16bit instead
[03:40] <Jowi> zAo^: "killall esd" in a terminal. System->prefs->sound: disable sound server at startup. System-> prefs-> multimedia something: default output sink: alsa
[03:40] <ishit> jack_create_thread: error -1 switching current thread to rt for inheritance: Unknown error<PHONE_NUMBER>
[03:40] <Shadowline> wf
[03:40] <ishit> cannot start watchdog thread
[03:40] <ishit> cannot load driver module alsa
[03:40] <zAo^> Jowi, did that before, no sound anymore :) thanks anyway :)
[03:40] <Lord_Epsylon> nas
[03:40] <Jowi> zAo^: ah :-)
[03:41] <ishit> wat should i do wen it says cannot load watchdog thread and cannot load alsa module driver
[03:42] <sexcopter8000m> are there command(s) to try to free up swap and ram?
[03:43] <whyameye> ishit: esd is not running? No other app is using ALSA?
[03:44] <Overdrive_X> Anybody have the link on how to install vmware on ubuntu, i found it yesterday but i cant find it again
[03:44] <whyameye> ishit: -R is realtime. Will work only with kernel patch or when running as root. Did you already know this?
[03:44] <Jowi> sexcopter8000m: best way is to limit number of daemons loaded at startup that you dont need. switch to a lighter desktop works as well. Gnome is pretty hungry.
[03:44] <Jowi> !tell Overdrive_X about vmware
[03:45] <UbuntuRob> Does anyone in here have a job/career in Linux????
[03:45] <sexcopter8000m> Jowi, i don't need to compeltely revamp my installation... just one application is whoring resources
[03:45] <Hellfried> thanks for al lyour suggestions, much appreciated!
[03:45] <ishit> no i hav killed esd dunno wat other ones r running. how do i find out
[03:45] <Jowi> sexcopter8000m: which one?
[03:45] <barton_> people, how can I work with Windows FTP resources in my LAN with Ubuntu?
[03:45] <sexcopter8000m> maple. it's a piece of maths software
[03:46] <whyameye> ishit: just try the same command as root and/or try without the -R parameter first. This will help us troubleshoot...
[03:46] <chris_hh> hi
[03:46] <Jowi> sexcopter8000m: haven't heard of that one. maybe you can find an alternative?
[03:46] <sexcopter8000m> Jowi, if i close it and reopen it it still seems to gobble up stuff, not sure why
[03:46] <sexcopter8000m> Jowi, no, i don't think so :p
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> barton_,  you mean 'what ftp client are there for ubuntu' ?
[03:47] <sexcopter8000m> Jowi, but when it's running it runs a process just called "java" which is the one which is hogging resources
[03:47] <chris_hh> Hi, can me help somebody ? --- terminal server problem Ive got
[03:47] <barton_> yes
[03:47] <barton_> I mean ftp client
[03:47] <frogz> chris_hh: just state your problem
[03:48] <whyameye> I want to send audio from one machine to another. Just a one-to-one audio stream deal so something like Shoutcast isn't appropriate. Running ubuntu on both. Any suggestions for software?
[03:48] <Jowi> sexcopter8000m: "killall java" maybe. you can also run "pstree" to see what it is connected to and try to kill the main process maybe.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> barton_,  theres literally DOZENS of ftp clients out. :P even the gnome file manager can doit. Depends on what features ya want in one. I recall a 'ftp file system' thing somewhere the could even mount them. (never used that however)
[03:48] <chris_hh> i want to set up ltspcfg but it tells that XDMCP is not installed but i am usig gdm, how that?
[03:48] <whyameye> barton_: gFTP is you are running Gnome is V.G.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> barton_,  fire up synaptic and search for 'ftp' and see wht look good.
[03:49] <kestas> Seveas, on a similar note as last time, if I have a bash function which I've forked, is there any way to send a signal to that forked function (sigint would be good) from the parent script?
[03:49] <Seveas> yes
[03:49] <Hellfried> frogz: loads of erros, but seem unrelated, i.e. they don't occur on hangups
[03:49] <kestas> Seveas, like a way of killing all child processes
[03:49] <Jowi> chris_hh: gdmsetup and tick the XDMCP box, that should prompt you with an installation box if i remember it correctly...
[03:49] <kestas> Seveas, how? :p
[03:49] <kestas> :o even
[03:49] <Seveas> save the result of fork (it's the pid)
[03:50] <kestas> ahhh :)
[03:50] <kestas> thanks
[03:50] <Seveas> and use kill -WHATEVERSIGNALYOUWANT $pid
[03:50] <ishit> hey thnx a million it worked!!!!
[03:50] <chris_hh> I have the gdmsetup box activated
[03:51] <Jowi> chris_hh: and can you use the XDMCP option in gdm when you log in?
[03:51] <whyameye> ishit: is this to me? What worked? If running as root worked, then you have to run all audio apps as root, which isn't good.  If either of these worked, you need realtime-lsm. I can email a link for directions....
[03:51] <chris_hh> how do I use the option Jowi?
[03:51] <frogz> chris_hh: libxdmcp6 is installed by default - think you just need to do some reading
[03:52] <chris_hh> its installed
[03:52] <Seveas> kestas, you're looking for $!
[03:52] <Jowi> chris_hh: Should be in the options menu when you log in. if that works, xdmcp is not your problem.
[03:52] <kestas> Seveas, lmao
[03:52] <kestas> how did you know?
[03:52] <Seveas> :))
[03:52] <whyameye> ishit: you are probably going to need to install realtime-lsm to get what you want. Instructions here: http://fort.xdas.com/~kor/oss2jack/install.html
[03:52] <Seveas> command &
[03:52] <twitch101> can anybody give me a link to an already compile unrar or somthing that i can use to unrar a file
[03:53] <Seveas> kill -HUP $!
[03:53] <chris_hh> i run gdm, isnt it automatically activated?
[03:53] <frogz> !winrar
[03:53] <ubotu> frogz: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:53] <deltron> twitch101: unrar?
[03:53] <frogz> !rar
[03:53] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[03:53] <lordlucless> Whats the "xpm" in regards to the gd2 lib? Is it some graphics file format?
[03:53] <frogz> yep
[03:53] <Jowi> chris_hh: i think it activates when you try to use it.
[03:53] <deltron> unrar-free is the package
[03:54] <twitch101> but im using a live cd so i cant use the synaptice package getter
[03:54] <chris_hh> ok Ill try
[03:54] <twitch101> i have to have all the files idownload on an external HD
[03:54] <whyameye> twitch101: the Archive Manager should already be on the live CD....
[03:54] <chris_hh> I relogg
[03:55] <twitch101> on hoary hedgehog 5.04 it is unsupported
[03:55] <twitch101> or they took it out before release or somthing...
[03:55] <twitch101> i already tried the archive manager and said that it couldnt
[03:56] <lordlucless> Hmm, my php config file is in /etc/php4/apache2/, even though Im running apache 1.3. That normal?
[03:56] <saintiss> hi
[03:56] <saintiss> are there people who succeeded getting eclipse running on ppc?
[03:56] <whyameye> twitch101: sorry, then. Don't know...
[03:57] <twitch101> i have to install the unrar-free or unrar-nonfree from the multiverse can i do that without syaptic
[03:57] <chris_hh> relogged- have only options gnome and terminal
[03:57] <twitch101> *snynaptix
[03:57] <learnfromscratch> i erased a rw cd... with blank=fast.. now when i mount it it says wrong fs type!!!
[03:57] <Jowi> chris_hh: brb, will check
[03:58] <ikor> twitch101: sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[03:58] <twitch101> alright
[03:58] <whyameye> ikor: is apt-get going to work when running from a live CD?
[03:59] <twitch101> it did earlier but it got started and said E: somthing
[03:59] <tristan> whyameye : did it work?
[04:00] <twitch101> im waitin for it to start
[04:00] <twitch101> the terminal
[04:00] <deltron> twitch101: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and remove the cdrom and if you didn't yet, add in the universe
[04:00] <ikor> whyameye: hmm, i never tried. but may be it will work
[04:01] <Jowi> in gdmsetup: Security -> Enable XDMCP. In gdm login screen: Actions -> XDMCP Chooser. worked for me
[04:01] <whyameye> tristan: I haven't tried yet. :-) I'm using the Dell which is the problem right now. I gotta go anyway. If you hang out in the channel a lot, I can let you know in a day or two. Sound good?
[04:01] <twitch101> is there a command to clear my cache? my comp is runnin kinda slow right now
[04:01] <whyameye> twitch101: if you run from the LiveCD it's going to be slow...
[04:01] <twitch101> i know but when i clear my cache it runs faster a lil bit
[04:01] <twitch101> is there one?
[04:02] <Jowi> you can also tick in gdmsetup Security -> Show Actions Menu -> Allow running XDMCP
[04:03] <twitch101> ok here is what i got when i id the  "sudo apt-get install unrar-free"
[04:04] <twitch101> Reading package lists... Done
[04:04] <twitch101> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:04] <twitch101> E: Couldn't find package unrar-free
[04:04] <chris_hh> brb
[04:04] <kevor> what windows program can be used to tunnel programs via ssh?
[04:04] <chris_hh> Jowi?
[04:04] <Jowi> chris_hh: in gdmsetup: Security -> Enable XDMCP. In gdm login screen: Actions -> XDMCP Chooser. worked for me
[04:04] <Jowi> chris_hh: you can also tick in gdmsetup Security -> Show Actions Menu -> Allow running XDMCP
[04:04] <lordlucless> kevor: putty
[04:04] <kevor> tunnel programs via ssh
[04:04] <kevor> not just get on my box with ssh
[04:05] <whyameye> kevor: I use ssh in cygwin on my windows box for stuff like tunnelling...
[04:05] <lordlucless> twitch101, : unrar-free is in the universe repository
[04:06] <ikor> twitch101: add this line " http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages" to /etc/apt/sources.list and do apt-get update
[04:06] <ikor> twitch101: then try again
[04:06] <twitch101> is that on my disk already?
[04:06] <chris_hh> Jowi_: i have allowed running, but i dont have the option actions->XDMCP Chooser
[04:06] <lordlucless_> Gee, that gets old fast
[04:06] <lordlucless_> putty can tunnel ssh too, kev
[04:06] <kevor> whyameye: how can i install ssh in cygwin?
[04:07] <deltron> install it with setup
[04:07] <lordlucless_> twitch: You need to give ubuntu the reference to the universe repository
[04:07] <Jowi> chris_hh: i answered that questions already. in gdmsetup : Security -> Show Actions menu -> Allow runnign XDMCP
[04:07] <lordlucless_> Someone else here is probly better to explain it than I am - I only installed ubuntu a few hours back
[04:07] <chris_hh> Jowi: I have activated running XDMCP
[04:08] <whyameye> kevor: on your windows box, go to http://www.cygwin.com/. Run the "Install or update now!" thing. Choose a mirror. When you get the list of packages, let it install what it wants, and also choose openssl or openssh or some name like that. You'll love cygwin if you like Linux and you use Windows.
[04:08] <Jowi> chris_hh: so in Security, you have activated "Enable XDMCP" and "Allow running XDMCP chooser from the login screen"?
[04:09] <tristan> yeah. Cygwin was my first try for Unix/Linux environment because it could un xmgrace. Now, I am mainly using Ubuntu and sometime Windows
[04:09] <stardust> what is a foo?
[04:09] <chris_hh> Jowi: yes it is so
[04:10] <chris_hh> do i have to activate the ticker above?
[04:10] <Jowi> chris_hh: then I have no idea since it work fine for me with that setup.
[04:10] <Jowi> chris_hh: which ticker?
[04:10] <chris_hh> allow configuration from login
[04:11] <Jowi> chris_hh: don't know. it is activated for me.
[04:11] <twitch101> ikor: is that in filesystem/bin somewere?
[04:11] <chris_hh> theres the submenu X-Server
[04:11] <Jowi> chris_hh: i think that is only for configuring gdm from the login screen...
[04:11] <Jowi> chris_hh: i haven't touch the xserver tab
[04:11] <lordlucless_> Night all
[04:11] <Jowi> s/touch/touched
[04:12] <chris_hh> do i have to choose server-def: cooser?
[04:12] <Jowi> don't know
[04:12] <chris_hh> i try it, wait a min
[04:13] <meepy> Hey, what's up?
[04:14] <Jowi> meepy: not too much. coffee in a minute or two
[04:15] <randabis> gah automatix needs a page i can't find the link in the thread
[04:15] <meepy> Oh I see. Is there anyone here using the last Clearlooks 0.6.2 (I think)?
[04:16] <meepy> Because I got a few problems with it, I like to have sortet
[04:16] <meepy> d*
[04:17] <Jowi> meepy: well, if you need help it will give you more responce by asking a direct questions. with a bit of luck there may be someone who can answer it
[04:19] <randabis> grr where
[04:20] <randabis> man...
[04:20] <eth42> How can I set the locale so that I basically have the German settings but with language set to English?
[04:20] <eth42> (I hope that doesn't sound ridiculous. I just want to have centimeters instead of inches, a proper date format, etc. But still I want the programs in English.)
[04:20] <chris_hh> re
[04:20] <chris_hh> it did not work
[04:20] <meepy> Wait a moment. I don't think I got a "problem" with the new Clearlooks anyway
[04:20] <meepy> It should look like that? :|
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> meepy,  look like what? :P
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> does it look 'clear' ?
[04:23] <meepy> I want my display to be like those on theese screenshots: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26757
[04:23] <ufk> hiya
[04:23] <chris_hh> re
[04:23] <milestone> hi all
[04:23] <chris_hh> did not work
[04:23] <meepy> As far as I can read it needs Clearlooks theme. The newest. I found the *.deb package on Ubuntu forums I installed. But after I install the Graphite theme, only the colors change on the clearlooks theme?
[04:24] <milestone>  i have customized the ubuntu installer to use my custom kernel, because i have a RAID Controller inside my machine that is not supported by default.
[04:25] <twitch101> before i leave ill make one suggestion for the development team of ubuntu.   the team should try to port a small version to be ablt to use on the xbox kernel
[04:25] <twitch101> alright well thanks for the help ikop
[04:25] <milestone> now when i boot the installer the last i see is... RAMDISK: Compressed image found ... VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) ... VFS: Cannot open root device "rd/0" what am i missing in my kernel?
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> thats a lot of little downloads for a 'theme' :P lol
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> welli guess i dont need the firefox and other bits.
[04:26] <ufk>  i can't use any of the admin tools on gnome-panel, it asks for the root password and doesn't go from there or even say that i wrote a bad password, any ideas?
[04:27] <Kyral> ubotu tell ufk about RootSudo
[04:27] <robotgeek> ufk: you havent enabled root, right?
[04:27] <meepy> Hmm
[04:27] <ufk> ahhmmm
[04:27] <ufk> enabled root in what?
[04:27] <milestone> anyone else customized the installer disk before?
[04:27] <Kyral> I love ubotu :D
[04:27] <Kyral> Makes this easy
[04:27] <meepy> I only want the window border to look like that
[04:27] <Kyral> ufk: read what Ubotu sent you
[04:28] <robotgeek> ufk: if you don't know what i am talking about, you probably havent enabled it :)
[04:28] <ufk> cool :)
[04:28] <ufk> reading thanks
[04:28] <sley> ubotu tell sley about RootSudo
[04:29] <randabis> hi
[04:29] <Royce> When I try to play internet radio streams, the program (xmms & others) continually buffers, complete s then rebuffers, any ideas?
[04:29] <Royce> this is a pretty fresh install of ubuntu
[04:29] <Jowi> milestone: Device Drivers->Multi-device support+RAID support (and select which raid)?
[04:29] <Kyral> Royce: Streamtuner?
[04:30] <robotgeek> Royce: do you have all the codecs and stuff? (tho, xmms should not need one)
[04:30] <Royce> Kyral: streamtuer is a program, or an engine?
[04:30] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Royce about mp3
[04:30] <adrian__> are there any local update sites (instead of update.ubuntu.com, update.ubuntu.ro, .de, .uk etc)
[04:30] <milestone> Jowi I amtrying to run my customized installer. It loads my kernel, and cannot mount the CD afterwards
[04:30] <Kyral> !find streamtuner
[04:30] <ubotu> streamtuner: (A GUI audio stream directory browser), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 0.99.99-5ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 581 kB, Installed size: 2064 kB
[04:31] <milestone> cramfs is inside the kernel
[04:31] <Kyral> Royce: its a program
[04:31] <milestone> initial ramdisk is inside the kernel
[04:31] <Royce> ive tried ogg and mp3 streams
[04:31] <Kyral> Doesn't Initrd depend on cramfs?
[04:32] <robotgeek> Royce: if ogg doesn't play, it definetly is not a codecs issue.
[04:32] <Seveas> milestone, no, it's in the initrd aka Initial RamDisk
[04:32] <Seveas> not in the kernel
[04:32] <adrian__> are there any local update sites (instead of update.ubuntu.com, update.ubuntu.ro, .de, .uk etc)???
[04:32] <Kyral> like mirros?
[04:33] <Seveas> adrian__, {ro,de,uk,....}.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:33] <Royce> yeah, it connects and buffers perpetually
[04:33] <Kyral> Royce: then I don't know...sory
[04:33] <Royce> sound werks for ubuntu, i have all the pretty boot stuff
[04:33] <Kyral> I don't listen to internet streams
[04:33] <robotgeek> Royce: just playing an mp3/ogg works?
[04:34] <Jowi> milestone: Device Drivers -> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support -> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support IDE -> Enhanced IDE/MFM/RLL -> Include IDE/ATAPI CDROM support
[04:34] <Royce> robot, good question, i need samba to connect to windoze networks right?
[04:34] <Jowi> milestone: either compile it into the kernel or load as a module. personally i have it in the kernel itself
[04:34] <eth42> How can I set the locale so that I basically have the German settings but with the actual language set to English?
[04:34] <robotgeek> Royce: most probably, unless you have an ftp/http server running there
[04:35] <Royce> robotgeek: excellent call, brb with that info
[04:35] <milestone> Jowi That is in there too
[04:35] <milestone> could it be that the ubuntu installer uses the /dev filesystem
[04:35] <milestone> and this is no longer insde kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:35] <Kyral> maybe
[04:35] <Jowi> milestone: that is wierd. maybe
[04:36] <Kyral> jump to 2.6.15
[04:36] <milestone> Kyral is it in there again?
[04:36] <Kyral> is what in where?
[04:36] <milestone> should be under pdeudo filesystems -> /dev filessystem support, correct?
[04:36] <robotgeek> the ubuntu installer is able to resize ext3 partitions?
[04:36] <milestone> Kyral, the /dev fs support
[04:37] <Kyral> I think so...its been a while since I rolled my own
[04:37] <Kyral> I haven't played with the 2.6.15
[04:37] <Jowi> Wow, I recommend rolling your own kernel. my boot time went from 65 to 38 seconds!
[04:37] <Kyral> I did that
[04:38] <Kyral> but for some reason module loading broke
[04:38] <robotgeek> Jowi: that only matters if you restart your box, heh
[04:38] <Kyral> and I had to redo the Nvidia module everytime
[04:38] <Jowi> robotgeek: i do it frequently, well, once per day maybe :-)
[04:39] <|iDo|> Hi :)
[04:39] <Kyral> robotgeek: on a laptop boottime is important :D
[04:39] <rohan> hi all
[04:39] <rohan> is ubuntu recomended for a Piii 550mhz 256mb ram ?
[04:39] <Kyral> rohan: yes
[04:39] <robotgeek> Kyral: i don't ever shut my 2 laptops down. sleep -> resume!
[04:39] <Kyral> You may have to run minimal
[04:39] <Jowi> but that was only a nice side-effect for me. needed custom kernel and patch for via epia dri support
[04:40] <Kyral> robotgeek: I don't trust those :P
[04:40] <Glossary> Hey guys :) does anybody know a bit about mySQL and apache??
[04:40] <rohan> Kyral: but it is the fastest one for the given computer ? or there are alternatives ?
[04:40] <mahangu> Glossary, #mysql
[04:40] <Kyral> rohan: Linux is Linux
[04:40] <rohan> Kyral: really ? then why is gentoo much faster than most other distros ?
[04:40] <Kyral> I was about to say that the Distros have a different way of doing things
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> rohan,  PROVE its 'much faster'
[04:41] <Kyral> Gentoo compiles everything from scratch
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> since the stats ive seen dont show that.
[04:41] <rohan> Dr_Willis: i cant.
[04:41] <robotgeek> Glossary: my knowledge is limited to installation
[04:41] <Kyral> so to a point it will be faster
[04:41] <mahangu> rohan, what kyral was trying to say is that all linuxes have the same base or core
[04:41] <qweo> hi to all
[04:41] <|iDo|> :) i have a "kernel panic" when i try to boot with a new DSDT on my acer laptop, does anyone can help me ?
[04:41] <rohan> Kyral: well.. anyway .. is there any other distro faster than ubuntu or no ?
[04:41] <mahangu> but different distros implement that in different ways
[04:41] <rohan> robotgeek: hi :)
[04:41] <Glossary> robotgeek, well if you have any idea how to make it connect or configure mysql please help
[04:41] <robotgeek> the amount of time you save compiling makes it all up :)
[04:41] <Kyral> rohan: its a matter of opinion and configuration
[04:41] <Kyral> and computer ;P
[04:41] <mahangu> Glossary, you need to get in #mysql
[04:42] <Kyral> I run Ubuntu on both my laptop and desktop
[04:42] <infernall> will firefox 1.5 be out for ubuntu soon?
[04:42] <rohan> Kyral: ah... the typical answers :P
[04:42] <mahangu> infernall, with dapper
[04:42] <infernall> dapper?
[04:42] <Kyral> my laptop feels quicker, but because I have a very minimal install
[04:42] <mahangu> infernall, next version of ubuntu
[04:42] <qweo> can anybody help with Radeon 3D acceleration over R300 driver (in ubuntu)?
[04:42] <Kyral> Its faster than Windows ;P
[04:42] <rohan> lol, Kyral
[04:42] <infernall> mahangu, whats the hold up with breezy and firefox 1.5?
[04:42] <g47o> Hola !
[04:42] <rohan> Kyral: ther "server" install ?
[04:42] <Kyral> yah
[04:42] <cion> hey all Im scared like shit, i installed gftp and all my files hust gone, they disappeared!!!!!
[04:42] <mahangu> infernall, it was not ready for packaging at the time of release
[04:42] <Kyral> I would reccommend Xubuntu(XFCE Default)
[04:42] <robotgeek> Glossary: i've setup using the Mysql documentation
[04:43] <robotgeek> rohan: hi
[04:43] <Glossary> mahangu, im asking there too
[04:43] <Kyral> rohan: do you know how to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[04:43] <infernall> mahangu, so just add the dapper repositories?
[04:43] <ufk> hiya, my user is in the admin group, still when i try to use sudo it gives me "Sorry, try again", and just su with the same password works. any ideas?
[04:43] <rohan> Kyral: yes.
[04:43] <mahangu> infernall, no no! there may be a breezy backport soon though
[04:43] <Kyral> rohan: okay, when you get to the server install
[04:43] <mahangu> for now you'll need to compile yourself
[04:43] <Kyral> add Multiverse and Universe
[04:43] <Kyral> then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:43] <Jowi> cion: gftp is a ftp client (not a server). if they are gone then you deleted them yourself
[04:43] <robotgeek> Glossary: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?highlight=%28mysql%29
[04:44] <rohan> Kyral: oh, xfce .. eek :P
[04:44] <cion> no Jowi
[04:44] <Kyral> whats wrong with XFCE? ;P
[04:44] <mahangu> rohan, XFCE is quite neat actually
[04:44] <mahangu> i like it
[04:44] <cion> i didn't
[04:44] <Kyral> I liked it
[04:44] <chris_hh> I have a problem with XDMCP ; i have it activated in the gdm setup; but ltspcfg says XDMCP is not istalled; how thaT?
[04:44] <infernall> mahangu, i hope so.  I really would like to drag and drop tabs...
[04:44] <Kyral> Built in compositing that is more stable than KDE and GNOME's
[04:44] <Kyral> YUM!!
[04:44] <Kyral> but I run Flux on both machines now
[04:44] <mahangu> infernall, get a extension man!
[04:45] <mahangu> ff 1.x has done that for _ages_
[04:45] <mahangu> with the right extension
[04:45] <infernall> bah
[04:45] <Kyral> wait for the Backport
[04:45] <mahangu> infernall, if that is your main reason to upgrade
[04:45] <mahangu> just get the extension
[04:45] <Kyral> Epiphany does it by default :D
[04:45] <g47o> pliss
[04:45] <g47o> the channel
[04:45] <mahangu> Kyral, true that
[04:46] <g47o> speak spanish
[04:46] <triple5> hello all,
[04:46] <_jason> !es
[04:46] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:46] <g47o> a channel !speak spanish
[04:46] <g47o> a channel !speak spanish
[04:46] <chris_hh> I have a problem with XDMCP ; i have it activated in the gdm setup; but ltspcfg says XDMCP is not istalled; how thaT?
[04:46] <raimian> hi, i need some help with drivers
[04:46] <meepy> How do I install fonts?
[04:46] <Kyral> g47o: #ubuntu-es
[04:46] <Kyral> !fonts
[04:46] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[04:46] <meepy> Thanks
[04:47] <g47o> kyral Gracias !
[04:47] <Kyral> !botsnack
[04:47] <ubotu> thanks kyral :)
[04:47] <ufk> sudo gives me password incorrect while su works. any ideas?
[04:47] <Kyral> dangit I forgot how to say Your Welcome in spanish
[04:47] <Kyral> ufk: did you enable the root account
[04:48] <ufk> i can login with root if that's what you're asking
[04:48] <raimian> im in need of drivers for a XG-701A usb wifi dongle, can anyone help???
[04:48] <Kyral> then sudo is dead in the water
[04:48] <eth42> where is the default locale stored in ubuntu?
[04:48] <Kyral> you have to use su ;P
[04:48] <Digimag> Hello!
[04:48] <ufk> ok i'll disable root account
[04:48] <rambo3> realy
[04:48] <Digimag> Can i get help here, please?
[04:49] <Kyral> Digimag: of course, just ask
[04:49] <ufk> ok.. now i have root disabled
[04:49] <rambo3> !trashcan
[04:49] <ubotu> rambo3: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:49] <ufk> same problem!
[04:49] <Kyral> sudo pass is your userpass
[04:49] <ufk> great.. now i don't have root... and sudo doesn't work
[04:49] <Kyral> and I have to run to class......I apologize
[04:49] <Digimag> Ubuntu is installed, but Grub install didn't work
[04:49] <raimian> where can i get ubuntu driver files????????
[04:49] <Digimag> I tried to do it manually
[04:50] <Royce> robotgeek: the apt-get plugins from that wiki don't seem to valid anymore, how would i track them down
[04:50] <Jowi> eth42: /etc/environment i think
[04:50] <robotgeek> Royce: do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[04:50] <Digimag> now I can boot on my partition, but I get always a kernel panic
[04:50] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Royce about repos
[04:50] <Royce> robotgeek: i dont know sorry
[04:50] <Royce> thanx
[04:50] <eth42> Jowi: yes, exactly. thanks!
[04:50] <rambo3> Digimag , alot can make grub not work .
[04:51] <Digimag> I tipe those commands in grub: root (hd0,4); kernel root=/dev/hda5; boot
[04:51] <Digimag> ubuntu is installed on /dev/hda5
[04:51] <ufk> ok can you please help me  out here? you told me that sudo won't work if i have root enabled ,so  i disabled it. now i have no root and no sudo
[04:51] <raimian> can somebody help me please????
[04:51] <rambo3> like my usual foult , installing linux on partition that cant be accessed buy bios
[04:51] <psi> can i run the dapper kernel on breezy?
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> raimian,  clarify the issue. and be concise. :P
[04:52] <robotgeek> ufk: to disable root, you must have run a sudo command?
[04:52] <raimian> i need drivers for a usb wifi dongle
[04:52] <ufk> yeah.. i ran sudo command while being root with su!
[04:52] <yatesy> you can't disable root, your system would be useless if you did
[04:52] <everton137> Hi, I want mount device /dev/sda1 for USB to upload photos form my mobile. But this device doesnt exist
[04:52] <Digimag> rambo3: I have  a PC.. What do you mean by  cant be accessed buy bios ?
[04:52] <everton137> does someone know why?
[04:52] <yatesy> everton137: your mobile might not be detected as sda
[04:52] <yatesy> use dmesg and find out what its been assigned
[04:53] <robotgeek> ufk: hmm, i think you need to boot into recovery mode and edit your sudoers file.
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> raimian,  may want to hit the ubuntu forums and wikis, searhing for your specific brand of 'dongle'
[04:53] <raimian> ok
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> dongle... :P what a word..
[04:53] <everton137> yatesy, how should I mount it? it's USB and ubuntu found that its a nokia 6235
[04:53] <ufk> recovery mode will run root even if it's disabled?
[04:53] <rambo3> well , if you have 160 gig HD , and first c: is on first 80 gig, then some bios cant acess /boot/grub/ if its on that last partition . do you get any error code?
[04:53] <everton137> yatesy, let me run it
[04:53] <Digimag> everton137: please past here a part of your dmesg message
[04:54] <yatesy> everton137: do i need to repeat? use dmesg and find out what device its been assigned
[04:54] <yatesy> err no
[04:54] <everton137> yatesy, ok, thank, I havbent red, sorry
[04:54] <everton137> yatesy, I will past on #flood
[04:54] <adrian__> hello, are there any local download sites for updates (Ex:   update.ubuntu.ro)
[04:54] <raimian> i have searched the forums and there is nothing about my wifi dongle on there
[04:55] <Jowi> adrian__: there are, yes. i use the french servers myself
[04:55] <lzap> Hi, I am using this great program and cannot find it in the Ubuntu packages. In the Debian there is 2.0.4. Can somebody explain how Debian packages "migrate" to universe?
[04:55] <everton137> yatesy, done
[04:55] <Digimag> So, for my grub... I can't boot. I have a kernel Panic and I get "device hda5 not found" or someone else
[04:55] <adrian__> Jowi what's the address?
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Digimag,  has it ever worked?
[04:56] <Digimag> But I have my hda5 partition with ReiserFS...
[04:56] <lzap> Sylpheed --- I am using this great program and cannot find it in the Ubuntu packages. In the Debian there is 2.0.4. Can somebody explain how Debian packages "migrate" to universe? (sorry for the above post)
[04:56] <Jowi> adrian__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive will list some of them (scroll down)
[04:56] <Digimag> Dr_Willis, i have just installed ubuntu
[04:56] <adrian__> Jowi thank you very much
[04:56] <Digimag> But GRUB installation fails
[04:56] <Digimag> I did it manually
[04:56] <rambo3> sudo grub-install
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> Digimag,  Hmm.,.. reiserfs.... every time i see some onemention reiserfs.. its some problem with it., :(
[04:57] <rambo3> or was it update
[04:57] <lzap> any1 using Sylpheed in Ubuntu here? :-(
[04:57] <Digimag> I try it with a chroot environement
[04:57] <everton137> yatesy, how do I discover the device seeing dmesg output?
[04:57] <yatesy> read what it says?
[04:57] <Digimag> $ dmesg | grep device
[04:58] <Digimag> or $ dmesg | grep -i usb
[05:01] <cion> guys i was installing GFTP but my system crashed, now i can't find all my files in the home directory help!
[05:01] <Digimag> How can I install lilo with ubuntu?
[05:01] <Digimag> apt-get lilo?
[05:01] <dave_> lzap: Make sure to have universe and multiverse repositories enabled and then you can easily use sylpheed with Ubuntu
[05:01] <Jowi> Digimag: yeah "sudo apt-get install lilo"
[05:01] <Digimag> apt-get install lilo
[05:01] <Digimag> yes
[05:01] <Toma-> !lilo
[05:01] <ubotu> Toma-: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:01] <Digimag> but it demands a CD
[05:02] <Toma-> oh dear
[05:02] <Digimag> it ask for an installation cd
[05:02] <Toma-> Digimag: disable your install cd as a source for apt
[05:02] <Jowi> Digimag: comment out the cd in /etc/apt/sources.list and run "sudo apt-get update"
[05:02] <Digimag> It's not a problem
[05:02] <Digimag> but Grub...
[05:02] <g47o> Ubuntu aja :D
[05:03] <lzap> dave_: the problem is there is only 2.0.0 in these repositories... it seems this grat MUA is not in universe...
[05:03] <lzap> dave_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=543843
[05:03] <Chrizz> hi there, installed and configured psybnc, now when i want to start it, I get "bash: psybnc: command not found
[05:03] <Digimag> How can i install Grub... and configure it
[05:03] <dave_> lzap: apt-cahe show sylpheed = version 2.1.1-1
[05:03] <Royce> is there a keyboard shortcut to kill a window in x?
[05:04] <Jowi> Chrizz: "whereis psybnc" might help you
[05:04] <rambo3> sudo grub-install and then edit menu.lst
[05:04] <lzap> dave_: yes, its the devel version, I do not use devel, I use latest stable, which is 2.0.4
[05:04] <Digimag> Royce: [CTRL] +[ALT] +[Back]
[05:04] <cion> guys i was installing GFTP but my system crashed, now i can't find all my files in the home directory help!
[05:05] <Chrizz> Jowi: i get "psybnc:" then
[05:05] <rambo3> maby thay are in lost and found
[05:05] <Digimag> Royce: Sorry, it kills your X server
[05:05] <Royce> yup, ill live
[05:05] <Royce> pickin on a newb, or accident?
[05:06] <eth42> is there a CD player in Ubuntu which can read cd-text?
[05:06] <Jowi> Chrizz: maybe the command is different from what you think. Open up synaptic, select the package, click Properties and Installed Files.
[05:06] <chrisx1> is there a way i can transfer A Lot of Files To FTP From Terminatl?
[05:06] <chrisx1> *Terminal
[05:07] <rambo3> man ftp
[05:07] <maledot> hallo! www.maledicta.net avantgarde metal from italy! in the website is possible listen our songs!
[05:08] <shastry> hey anyone giving away laptops for free ?
[05:08] <Chrizz> ah damn its running alrdy, but i got not msg that its running :S
[05:08] <wolfi> hi
[05:08] <tristan> shastry : maybe santa claus
[05:08] <shastry> hehe
[05:08] <shastry> i heard santa is gonna be in #ubuntu :P
[05:08] <cion> guys how can i find my files again?
[05:09] <oskude> chrisx1, i think there was something with "mput" command in "ftp"...
[05:09] <cion> if i pull out hard disk how do I see in it with windows?
[05:09] <Stork> how can i get subtitles working with totem?
[05:09] <chrisx1> yer i saw that oskude
[05:09] <Chrizz> how can i kill a process?
[05:09] <erUSUL> cion, try a livecd like knoppix
[05:10] <erUSUL> Chrizz, kill PID
[05:10] <cion> oh ok ill try that
[05:10] <Chrizz> how i get PID?
[05:10] <cion> is xfce on ubuntu good?
[05:10] <Royce> is there a keyboard shortcut to kill a window in x?
[05:10] <erUSUL> Chrisx_, ps ax | grep name
[05:10] <erUSUL> Royce, try xkill
[05:10] <Stork> how can i get subtitles working with totem?
[05:11] <dave_> cion: I use xfce on Ubuntu and love it
[05:11] <_jason> Chrizz, if you know the name of the process, you can use: killall NAMEOFPROCESS -- or you can run xkill and then just click on the window
[05:11] <erUSUL> Royce, there is apanel applet that comes very handy for the task
[05:11] <Jowi> cion: yep, very. But i don't like the default Rodent icons at all. look like a three year old made them :-) Appart from that....
[05:11] <Royce> erUSUL: is that a program?
[05:11] <cion> dave_: is it ok for newbies?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> cion,  the xfce-desktop is fairly welldone.
[05:11] <erUSUL> Royce, yes
[05:11] <Stork> how can i get subtitles working with totem? i've got the .srt file
[05:11] <Toma-> Royce: kde has ctl-alt-esc...
[05:11] <Royce> do a packet search for xkill?
[05:11] <dave_> cion: I don't think that XFCE is as easy as gnome, but it won't take long to get use to
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Xfce tries to be very.. (CDE?)ish?  I think.
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> but ive never used CDE
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> xfce is nice for a vnc session or other light needs..  it also seems to handle the gnome and kde  applications well.
[05:13] <cion> is it graphicly configurable like gnome? meaning gdesklets, apps and all?
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> cion,  not tried the gdesklets. but they should work.
[05:13] <dave_> cion: XFCE is a lot more lightweight than either KDE or GNOME so I think that the "slight" learning curve is well worth it.  The learning curve is indeed small
[05:13] <sephadex> plz i install mplayer but /dev/dsp no such device
[05:13] <rambo3> cion if you want something good and light go for fluxbox
[05:13] <cion> what shoudl be my pilar to learn bout xfce?
[05:14] <_jason> ubotu, tell sephadex about mplayer
[05:14] <cion> whats fluxbox, desktop?
[05:14] <dave_> XFCE, I believe that gdesklets will work.  However, gdesklets are pretty resource intensive so I don't use them much
[05:14] <Storkme> how can i get subtitles working with totem? i've got the .srt file
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> cion,  install the xubuntu-desktop and have at it. :P thats the full 'xfce' desktop enviroment I think.
[05:14] <cion> how? i can't do it during installation
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> cion,  learning the basics of xcfe will take about 15 min tops. :P if you bother to read their docs.
[05:14] <cion> u mean with syn?
[05:15] <dave_> cion: I am still running GNOME desktop environment, but using the xfwm4 (window manager) to replace metacity.  I like this setup
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> metacity - is a bit of a pain in ways. :P
[05:15] <dave_> Dr_Willis: I agree that metacity is a pain
[05:16] <rambo3> explain
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> dave_,  when they did the switch from sawmill to metacity - ages ago.. i gave up on gnome for a LONG time.
[05:16] <cion> but how do i install xubuntu during installation? i need to do it after ubuntu installation right?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> cion,  yes.. after ya get installed and running, and updates set up..
[05:16] <cion> ok ill try to recover my files now
[05:17] <dave_> Dr_Willis: I have another computer running GNOME Desktop and Sawfish as the window manager.  I like this too
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/11/xubuntu-xfce-ubuntu/
[05:17] <cion> after i will see bout xfce
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> dave_,  yea - sawfish is a love it or hate it thing also. :P
[05:18] <Storkme> how can i get subtitles working with totem? i've got the .srt file
[05:18] <Xtreme984> hi people
[05:18] <chakal> hi man
[05:18] <Xtreme984> I was wondering if anyone could help me get my brother's WiFi card to work on Ubuntu
[05:18] <chakal> ow, me too
[05:19] <chrisx1> is there a way i can transfer A Lot of Files To FTP From Terminal?
[05:19] <Xtreme984> it's a RaLink 2500 chipset if I'm correct
[05:19] <chakal> i need help to use my 802.11b/g in de ubuntu
[05:19] <Xtreme984> same
[05:20] <Storkme> how can i get subtitles working with totem? i've got the .srt file
[05:21] <rambo3> deja vue
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> chrisx1, wget is handy for that.
[05:21] <Storkme> how can i get subtitles working with totem? i've got the .srt file
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> chrisx1,  or mc, for a ftp front end.
[05:22] <Dragma> Is my grub config file correct?
[05:22] <Dragma> default 0
[05:22] <Dragma> timeout 5
[05:22] <Dragma> title=Ubuntu
[05:22] <Dragma> root (hd0,4)
[05:22] <Dragma> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/hda5
[05:22] <testmach1ne> lookslike good
[05:22] <testmach1ne> moment
[05:23] <Xtreme984> anyone know how to get a wireless card with a RaLink 2500 chipset to work??
[05:23] <testmach1ne> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-386 (recovery mode)
[05:23] <testmach1ne> root            (hd0,0)
[05:23] <testmach1ne> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro single
[05:23] <testmach1ne> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-386
[05:23] <testmach1ne> boot
[05:23] <testmach1ne> Dragma: has to be something like that
[05:23] <testmach1ne> Dragma: 2.6 kernels need initrd
[05:24] <Dragma> ok
[05:24] <Dragma> thank's
[05:25] <nox-Hand> Hey
[05:25] <nox-Hand> Can you set Ubuntu to auto switch off?
[05:25] <Xtreme984> hi
[05:25] <nox-Hand> at a specific time or after x hours?
[05:27] <nox-Hand> Very quiet in here
[05:27] <testmach1ne> Dragma: np
[05:27] <sephadex> mplayer audio dont run
[05:27] <nox-Hand> got codecs?
[05:28] <testmach1ne> nox-Hand: i dong know
[05:28] <Xtreme984> :(
[05:28] <nox-Hand> ah, how did you install Mplayer?
[05:28] <kestas> nox-Hand, sudo sh, then 'hours=5; sleep `expr 60 \* 60 \* $hours`; halt'
[05:28] <kestas> or use cron
[05:28] <Dragma> testmach1ne, I reboot
[05:28] <nox-Hand> cron?
[05:29] <sephadex> with manual in spanisch
[05:29] <chrisx1> Dr_Willis, i thought wget was to download?
[05:29] <nox-Hand> What is Cron?
[05:29] <kestas> nox-Hand, man 5 crontab
[05:29] <Xtreme984> anyone know how to get a WiFi card to work in Ubuntu 5.10??? (it's a RaLink RT2500 chipset)
[05:29] <nox-Hand> will that make it auto shut down after 5 hours?
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> chrisx1,  :P i missread.
[05:30] <nox-Hand> sephadex: I shall just find the code for installing Mplayer codecs
[05:30] <nox-Hand> sephadex: Do you have 32 bit ubuntu?
[05:30] <kestas> basically sudo sh then 'hour=5; minute=20; echo "$minute $hour * * * halt" >> /etc/crontab'
[05:30] <sephadex> no
[05:30] <chrisx1> i tried usin gftp Dr_Willis But It Keeps Stalling
[05:31] <kestas> itll halt every day at $minute in $hour
[05:31] <nox-Hand> sephadex:  64 bit then?
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> chrisx1,  sounds like it maybe a ftp server side issue.  I rarely every use ftp any more.. ssh is the way to go.
[05:31] <nox-Hand> kestas: How do I stop it again then?
[05:31] <chrisx1> how can i use ssh to get files then?
[05:31] <sephadex> i have p3 233
[05:32] <chrisx1> in behind nat
[05:32] <MarcN> kestas: halt?  shutdown is a nicer choice.
[05:32] <kestas> MarcN, they all do the same thing right?
[05:32] <nox-Hand> sephadex: What distro Ubuntu? i386?
[05:32] <Digimag> Sorry
[05:32] <kestas> MarcN, init 0 would be just as good
[05:32] <Digimag> Now, my grub config is finished
[05:32] <Digimag> how can I install it?
[05:33] <MarcN> kestas: halt kills processes hard,  shutdown does it gracefully letting daemons to shut themselves down cleanly.
[05:33] <chrisx1> Dr_Willis, how can i use ssh to get files then?
[05:33] <rambo3> just save the changes
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> chrisx1,  scp - makes it fairly easy to copy files frm one machine to another.
[05:33] <MarcN> chrisx1:     scp user@the.intern.net:/home/some/file.txt .
[05:34] <nox-Hand> MarcN: Shutdown? How do I do that then?
[05:34] <kestas> MarcN, how does it do it more gracefully?
[05:34] <MarcN> nox-Hand:     sudo shutdown -h now
[05:34] <chrisx1> can i use wildcards MarcN , Dr_Willis
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> i just alwas gets the command line backwards the first few times i try scp it seems.
[05:34] <kestas> MarcN, if youre the only user on the sys you dont need a 'shutting down in xx mins' message beforehand
[05:34] <MarcN> chrisx1: sure.
[05:34] <kestas> and apart from that it's the same thing, init 0
[05:34] <MarcN> kestas: that is why I do 'shutdown -h now'
[05:34] <chrisx1> Can U Explain How MarcN
[05:35] <kestas> MarcN, well thats the same thing as 'halt' just longer
[05:35] <julo> hi
[05:35] <nox-Hand> MarcN: Sudo shutdown -5 now   - Will that make my com shut down after 5 hours?
[05:35] <MarcN> kestas: right, because it gives processes a few moments to save themselves.  Not nice when you are running say mysql
[05:36] <MarcN> nox-Hand: no, it shuts it down now.  For 5 hours from now, use      sudo shutdown -h +5h
[05:36] <MarcN> nox-Hand: see the manpage for shutdown
[05:36] <kestas> MarcN, I assume you mean mysqld, but halt sends a TERM signal before KILL, just like shutdown
[05:36] <Xtreme984> mysql is a b*tch when it doesn't have time to shutdown
[05:36] <julo> I have a script that automatically creates users using adduser -p CRYPTED_PASSWORD. On Ubuntu, adduser doesn't seem to accept the -p otion. Is there another way to change a password in a bash script ?
[05:37] <Digimag> How do I setup grub? My cofnig file is /boot/grub/grub.conf... And now? What do I do for boot my Ubuntu?
[05:37] <nox-Hand> MarcN: Manpage?
[05:37] <kestas> nox-Hand, man shutdown
[05:37] <Digimag> I don't have man
[05:37] <Digimag> on my Ubuntu
[05:37] <MarcN> kestas: hmm, man page for halt says it just does a shutdown.  So should be the same amount of time.  previously halt was very unnice.
[05:38] <bshumate> julo: useradd(8) accepts -p
[05:38] <MarcN> nox-Hand: the manual page.  Open a terminal window and type       man shutdown
[05:38] <nox-Hand> MarcN: Ah, cheers
[05:38] <nox-Hand> Thanks a lot ;)
[05:38] <nox-Hand> Downloading SuSE. Just wanna check it out. No need to let the com be on all night.   :P
[05:40] <Xtreme984> @phiqtion doesn't ifconfig work??? (should display all connections if I'm correct
[05:40] <nox-Hand> 5+ week uptimes? Sorry, you lost me. I too like to shut down my com. Uses a lot of power
[05:40] <bshumate> phiqtion: ifconfig, and netstat will show even more info than "ipconfig" does
[05:40] <kestas> less power usage, less noise, I cant stand the 'it's okay that it takes 5min to boot up because you shouldnt turn it off' defence
[05:40] <julo> bshumate: thanks :)
[05:40] <nox-Hand> Dr_Willis: Do you 'live' here? ;)
[05:40] <kestas> Dr_Willis, not tallking about my servers though :P
[05:40] <SWAT> bor, ping
[05:41] <Stork> HOW do i get subtitles working with totem? I have a .avi file and a .srt file
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> nox-Hand,  it does? hmmm...    lets see.. 300W power supply.. actually as far as noise  - I built theis one to be quiet. :P my fish tank makes more noise.
[05:41] <Xtreme984> oh btw, where do I open a terminal window??? (first time on linux)
[05:41] <Stork> Xtreme984,  Applications > Accessories > Termina,
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> a PC with a 400W Power supply - is it constantly drawint 400W ?
[05:41] <Royce> is there an aac+ codec out there for ubuntu?
[05:41] <Xtreme984> ah, thanks Stork
[05:41] <Stork> no problem
[05:41] <kestas> Dr_Willis, nope thats max supply
[05:41] <Royce> Dr_Willis:  NO, it only draws what it needs
[05:42] <kestas> not actually sure how you measure power consumption
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> yea..  i was thinking it maybe drawing that much..  however.. guess not. I will ask the Electrians at work.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Heck they proberly got some meter - i can borrow
[05:42] <Xtreme984> I've tried to use a Fedora Core 4 liveCD once... was absolutely horrible... this works quite nicely so far :)
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> They got all sorts of load-meters and so forth.
[05:43] <Royce> you can purchase  a [iece to put on the outlet and then plug your puter into it, will measure wattage and such, not sure where to find one though
[05:43] <Stork> HOW do i get subtitles working with totem? I have a .avi file and a .srt file
[05:43] <lzap> installation under qemu failed in the second stage, is any1 running it? what about VMWARE PLAYER, can I use it? :-(
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  hve you even checked the wikis  and forums for Totem/Ubuntu yet?
[05:43] <nox-Hand> Right, dinner time.. Time to go away. I shall try 'living' like Dr_Willis for a night now. Allthough will not be back untill much later. C ya
[05:43] <trappist> lzap: you can't create new vms in the vmware player
[05:43] <Stork> Dr_Willis, yes, about four times
[05:44] <lzap> is vmware faster than qemu with the kqemu?
[05:44] <greenpenguin13> yes
[05:45] <Xtreme984> the CDs I ordered through shipit just arrived today :D
[05:45] <trappist> I've never used qemu, but I'm going to say yes
[05:45] <greenpenguin13> but xen is quicker still
[05:45] <lzap> really:?
[05:45] <greenpenguin13> mine arrived weeks back :p
[05:45] <lzap> I have Gentoo and want to try Ubuntu
[05:45] <Xtreme984> <_<
[05:45] <greenpenguin13> it uses para-virtualisation or something
[05:45] <lzap> no free partitions :-)
[05:45] <Xtreme984> I've tried Fedora Core 4 before this, it didn't work...
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  i just googled.. and it seems to be a command line option.
[05:45] <greenpenguin13> aah
[05:45] <Stork> Dr_Willis, i tried that, didn't want to work
[05:45] <greenpenguin13> stick w/ quemu
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  could be your subtitle file is bad.
[05:46] <greenpenguin13> im using ubuntu and i want to try gentoo :p
[05:46] <lzap> greenpenguin13: lol :-) why? I am bored of compilation a bit
[05:46] <Xtreme984> although I'm kinda having problems with my mouse now... it's a wireless optical mouse (it doesn't respond all that nice on Ubuntu yet)
[05:46] <lzap> neverending story
[05:46] <lorion> Can someone recommend a good tape backup solution for ubuntu, one that can also backup windoze boxes?
[05:47] <guillen> what's the best p2p software for ubuntu?
[05:47] <greenpenguin13> i just want to try it out
[05:47] <greenpenguin13> ive got free partitions
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> guillen,  depends on your needs. theres a p2p ubuntu wiki page that sumarizes them all.
[05:47] <Xtreme984> hold on, brb
[05:47] <lorion> Xtreme984: which optical mouse are you using?
[05:47] <Stork> Dr_Willis, there's nothing wrong with it
[05:47] <guillen> ok thanx
[05:47] <Padre> can someone explain the setup process for spanning my root partition over two HDD's using the LVM?
[05:47] <lzap> greenpenguin13: theres no need to reboot a machine during the installation process :-) you can do it in your U
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  logicially somting is wrong. :P  try some other players  is the next step in truble shooting would be my advice.
[05:48] <greenpenguin13> in ur U?
[05:48] <lzap> Ubuntu :-)
[05:48] <greenpenguin13> lol
[05:48] <cion> hey all just installed xfce
[05:48] <cion> wow it rocks man
[05:49] <greenpenguin13> ive got free partitions anyways, so why not :)
[05:49] <cion> things just go fast here
[05:49] <lorion> What are you guys using for backups on Ubuntu?
[05:49] <Xtreme984> Lorion, I dunno, it's my dad's it says the brand A4-tech on the cover
[05:49] <greenpenguin13> we dont have #xubuntu
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> lorion,  i tend to use Mondo/Mindi
[05:50] <cion> guys something weird happened i can't see my files but instead of my directory i see 3 points
[05:50] <cion> like ...
[05:50] <cion> and i can't access
[05:50] <bshumate> lorion: check out rsync, or unison, they're pretty cool
[05:50] <greenpenguin13> oh wait we do
[05:50] <cion> i can't get my files
[05:50] <cion> why?
[05:50] <greenpenguin13> try #xubuntu
[05:50] <lorion> Xtreme984, I have a MS Bluetooth wireless mouse that works great.. just wondering if you had the same mouse.
[05:51] <lorion> Dr_Willis, thanks, I will check them out.
[05:57] <phiqtion> l
[05:57] <phiqtion> sup guys
[05:58] <mikejw> phiqtion: sup :)
[05:58] <phiqtion> mikejw: enyoying ubuntu
[05:59] <mikejw> good for you
[05:59] <phiqtion> hell yeah
[06:01] <davix> excuse me for ignorance but what does port 139 do? why is it opened? and shall I be worried?
[06:01] <thefish> davix: its for windows shares
[06:02] <davix> oic
[06:02] <davix> lovely
[06:02] <davix> :)
[06:02] <davix> tnx
[06:02] <thefish> if you are running a samba server its ok, as long as its not reachable from the net
[06:02] <legolas> hi guys, can i ask what is difference between debian and ubuntu
[06:02] <Jowi> davix: cat /etc/protocols will give you a nice list
[06:02] <davix> tnx Jowi
[06:02] <thefish> or even better: grep 139 /etc/services
[06:03] <MarcN> legolas: ubuntu is a derivative of debian.
[06:03] <Jowi> davix, thefish; yeah, services is better
[06:03] <legolas> MarcN, so commands, and structure are same?
[06:03] <legolas> so if i buy debian book to learn linux, its same like with ubuntu
[06:04] <trappist> legolas: most of what you learn will apply to ubuntu, but there will be a few surprises
[06:05] <legolas> can you suggest some some nice book to learn ubuntu/debian (linux)
[06:05] <linux_n00b_e> How is everyone today?
[06:05] <shinu> how can i change the picture that shows up when ubuntu is loading ?
[06:06] <Jowi> linux_n00b_e: great. but that is quite a big generalisation since "everyone" doesn't talk to me ;-)
[06:06] <LoPMX> hi
[06:06] <Jowi> shinu: there is several posts in the ubuntu forums (look in the tips and tricks section)
[06:06] <LoPMX> how can i change default window manager?
[06:07] <shinu> Jowi: okies thanks for the hint
[06:07] <Jowi> LoPMX: install whichever you want. If if gets added automaticly (xfce, kde, gnome) just choose it in the gdm login manager as a session. If not, you need to execute it in your .xsession file.
[06:08] <obe1> ok i used make-kpkg to build a custom kernel, but i realized, i need the nvidia driver. anyone know the "ubuntu" way for doing nvidia drivers with custom build kernel.. i.e. what to do with the linux-restricted-modules package? thanks
[06:08] <linux_n00b_e> I have a question: Is there a way to replace or upgrade the processor and CPU in a computer?
[06:08] <MarcN> linux_n00b_e: yes.
[06:08] <Jowi> linux_n00b_e: it depends on your motherboard
[06:09] <Matthew> i installed ubuntu "server" because i wanted to load xubuntu
[06:09] <Matthew> but my networking is not working
[06:09] <linux_n00b_e> Really? Where could I find info on that?
[06:09] <LoPMX> Jowi: thanks
[06:09] <MarcN> linux_n00b_e: you need to know what you are doing though.  Don't buy anything until you are sure.
[06:10] <Matthew> so far, the only way i have gotten this little card to work is the gentoo installation cd. NOT my own gentoo when i compiled the kernel, mind you
[06:10] <Jowi> LoPMX: no probs. if (like me) you install some unknown window manager like Oroborus, you need to add a line like "exec /usr/bin/oroborus" at the end of your .xsession file and choose "Default" as sesion in GDM
[06:10] <Matthew> how do i set up ethernet from terminal - type interface?
[06:10] <linux_n00b_e> I have a computer with a Pentium II and I'd like to upgrade the chip, but I figured I'd have to replace the whole entire motherboard and CPU in order to do that....
[06:10] <sambagirl> is there a help channel for irc?
[06:11] <potus> can someone tell me that tar command to take a 'snapshot' of my whole system (premission and all)
[06:11] <jeed890> sambagirl yes there is
[06:11] <joachim-n> what does this mean in synaptic: "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com ..."
[06:11] <potus> apt-get update
[06:11] <jeed890> is seveas here?
[06:11] <joachim-n> linux_n00b_e, CPU & processor are the same thing
[06:11] <sambagirl> do you know it's name jeed890?
[06:11] <hedonick> linux_n00b_e: probably true with a computer that old. It's not like you can cram any newfangled processor in there.
[06:12] <jeed890> no ill get it
[06:12] <Jowi> Matthew: ifconfig eth0 inet dhcp up (should work if you use dhcp)
[06:12] <jeed890> for you
[06:12] <Agrajag> linux_n00b_e: you'll also need new RAM
[06:12] <sambagirl> much thanks
[06:12] <jeed890> #userhelp
[06:12] <Matthew> i typed ifconfig and i got something back under eth0
[06:12] <Agrajag> linux_n00b_e: and probably a new power supply
[06:12] <Jowi> Matthew: does it have a "inet addr:"?
[06:12] <linux_n00b_e> So how would I go about finding out what particular items I'd need to upgrade this Gateway 2000?
[06:12] <Agrajag> ugh
[06:12] <jeed890> thats it sambagirl
[06:13] <Agrajag> a gateway?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> Eww. :P
[06:13] <Matthew> jowi now
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> Lol.
[06:13] <sambagirl> thank yopu
[06:13] <Agrajag> You'd be better off buying a new computer
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> considering the nice machines ya can get for $300 now a days...
[06:13] <jeed890> anytime sambagirl
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> which make good little Linux boxs
[06:13] <Matthew> jowi lo has inet addr but not eth0
[06:13] <reagleBRKLN> [4478350.969000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0). [4478350.969000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known." my syslog is full of those two lines, how to fix it so they don't fill the log?
[06:13] <Eddie> Does anyone know of an application I can use to capture stills from my webcam
[06:13] <Jowi> Matthew: how do you usually connect to the internet?
[06:13] <Eddie> Ive tried "webcam" it just freezes my PC
[06:14] <Matthew> jowi - i'm on a different computer.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Eddie,  Mine does also.. whats your webcam?
[06:14] <Matthew> jowi - on that computer, in windows, both the ethernet and a pcmcia wireless card work
[06:14] <Eddie> Dr_Willis: trust spacecam 120
[06:14] <Matthew> jowi - i have taken the wireless card out tho
[06:14] <phiqtion> is gnome and kde the only window managers? where can i get more?
[06:14] <jeed890> eddie try www.donload.com for webcam still programs
[06:14] <Sanne> reagleBRKLN: I believe this is a known kernel bug, wait a sec, I'll get you the info.
[06:14] <Jowi> Matthew: you connect the ethernet to a router?
[06:14] <Eddie> download.com does Linux software?
[06:14] <Matthew> jowi yes
[06:14] <jeed890> it should do
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Eddie,  I got a creative WebCamNX  - everytime any prgram acces it. the whole pc locks up. :(
[06:15] <jeed890> ive got some linux software from it before
[06:15] <Agrajag> Why would you use download.com for linux software?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> freshmeat.net - may be a better place for linux software
[06:15] <Agrajag> Rather than synaptic?
[06:15] <Jowi> Matthew: what does "ifconfig eth0 inet dhcp up" do for you?
[06:15] <nox-Hand> Hey
[06:15] <BlueDevil> Dr_Willis: same happens to me with another cam
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> now ya could use freshmeat and download.com - to search for programs and then find them with synaptic. :P
[06:15] <nox-Hand> Agrajag: I thought you lost your last life in the cathedral of hate? ;)
[06:15] <phiqtion> is gnome and kde the only window managers? where can i get more?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> and install them with synaptic.
[06:15] <Matthew> jowi: dhcp: Host name lookup failure
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> phiqtion,  synaptic has several dozen.
[06:16] <reagleBRKLN> Sanne: ok, thanks
[06:16] <Agrajag> nox-Hand: that's later, I haven't even been to stavromulla beta yet
[06:16] <phiqtion> Dr_Willis: which ones you recommend?
[06:16] <lou_> Hey all, anyone know how to check how much space I have on my filesystem?
[06:16] <BlueDevil> phiqtion: try xfce, flubbox, blackbox...
[06:16] <Eddie> basically I need a linux clone of "amcap" on windows
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> phiqtion,  check out 'icewm' 'windowmaker'   and others.. depends on what you want.
[06:16] <BlueDevil> phiqtion: fluxbox
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> phiqtion,  xubuntu-desktop   - is very good also.
[06:16] <nox-Hand> Agrajag: Oh, right. My mistake. Good luck then
[06:16] <rambo3> afterstep
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Afterstep - Lol. :P aint seen that onementioned in ages
[06:17] <phiqtion> Dr_Willis: xubuntu desktop, what is it
[06:17] <lou_> Hey all, anyone know how to check how much space I have on my filesystem?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> !info xubuntu-desktop
[06:17] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[06:17] <BlueDevil> lou_: df -h ; man df
[06:17] <lou_> tx
[06:18] <Sanne> reagleBRKLN: install rcconf and disable hotkey-setup. Details here: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17569
[06:18] <reagleBRKLN> thanks
[06:18] <phiqtion> Dr_Willis: im downloading xubuntu, any else?
[06:18] <Sanne> reagleBRKLN: you're welcome
[06:18] <fr500> !backports
[06:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.   :P
[06:18] <Thorpe> I need help with music on Ubuntu.
[06:19] <phiqtion> Dr_Willis: okay, what are the names. like xubuntu-desktop
[06:19] <Matthew> jowi - are you still here? when i typed just ifconfig eth0 inet up  something happened
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> phiqtion,  synaptic has a search feature :P   also may want to look at  http://www.plig.org/xwinman/
[06:19] <Jowi> Matthew: yeah, was searching the forums :)
[06:20] <Jowi> Matthew: you got an ip now?
[06:20] <Matthew> jowi - i don't think so
[06:20] <Matthew> i get more stuff.
[06:20] <Howdy125> It's probably your spca5xx video driver locking up your cams .. needs to be recompiled with an older version of gcc ...
[06:20] <jeed890> does anybody know where seveas is?
[06:20] <Jowi> define "stuff"
[06:20] <Thorpe> Anyone know where I can get plugin to play MP3?
[06:20] <fr500> !extras
[06:20] <ubotu> it has been said that extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:20] <jesse_> hi folks .. how do I partition a second HD on a dual boot system? Can I use my Ubuntu cd and then use the partioner there?
[06:21] <jeed890> jesse yes u can
[06:21] <Jowi> jesse_: yep
[06:21] <Matthew> jowi - no ip
[06:21] <Jowi> Matthew: what is the router address?
[06:21] <jesse_> do I use "manual partition"?
[06:21] <filou2> hi
[06:22] <Matthew> jowi. how do i find that out? :)
[06:22] <Jowi> Matthew: is the computer you're at now connected to the router?
[06:22] <moonstone> Hi!
[06:22] <Jowi> hello Moofed
[06:22] <joachim-n> jesse_, I'd recommend a live CD with gparted on it
[06:22] <Jowi> hello moonstone even
[06:23] <Jowi> (autocomp. sometimes is to quick for me)
[06:23] <Matthew> jowi yes
[06:23] <Matthew> jowi this comp is connected to router
[06:23] <filou2> I'm trying to execute the useradd command through a PHP script. For security reasons, it doesn't want to execute it. So I create a C program that runs it, and I set it +s. Now, if I login as www-data, I can execute this program and it works. But from the PHP command system (), it doesn't work. Any idea ?
[06:23] <jesse_> joachim-n OK I have it and am familiar with gparted
[06:23] <moonstone> Any musicians here? I need help with rosegarden4.
[06:23] <Jowi> Matthew: what is the ip address for that computer?
[06:23] <jeed890> jesse just load normal boot then go to partition and let it choose the patitions then edit them
[06:23] <fr500> hello
[06:23] <fr500> is mono 1.1 available in backports?
[06:23] <fr500> i want the new banshee
[06:24] <_null> try another repo
[06:24] <HappyFool> fr500: packages.ubuntu.com will let you search backports
[06:24] <jeed890> seveas i have info u asked for
[06:24] <fr500> kk
[06:24] <_null> fr500, deb http://debian.meebey.net/ ./
[06:24] <jesse_> jeed890 do I need a logical and a primary on the second HD
[06:24] <jeed890> i would go with that
[06:24] <jeed890> but let it decide for you
[06:24] <jeed890> i recomend it for large hdds
[06:25] <Matthew> jowi. according to whatismyip.com mine is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:25] <jeed890> wot size is the hhd ur partitioning
[06:25] <fr500> _null:  should i disable those after installing?
[06:25] <jeed890> ???
[06:25] <_null> fr500, I didn't do that...
[06:25] <jesse_> jeed890 OK si its basically the same process as when I parttioned the first HD? (216 GB)
[06:25] <jeed890> wot siz
[06:25] <Jowi> Matthew: that is your public address. your computer and router has got a local address. check the ipaddress of the computer you're on now. Windows or linux machine?
[06:25] <filou2> /join ~php
[06:25] <filou2> /join #php
[06:25] <filou2> /join #php
[06:25] <jeed890> that plenty
[06:25] <jesse_> si I meant
[06:25] <Matthew> jowi windows
[06:26] <filou2> :)
[06:26] <jesse_> so
[06:26] <jeed890> what version are u using ?
[06:26] <highvoltage> /join #php should do :)
[06:26] <rambo3> ./j #php
[06:26] <jesse_> hoary
[06:26] <Jowi> Matthew: start -> run -> cmd. "ipconfig" will give you the address
[06:26] <jeed890> 5.04?
[06:26] <jesse_> yes
[06:27] <jeed890> same as me
[06:27] <jesse_> :)
[06:27] <jeed890> so just go to partitioning normal boot
[06:27] <jeed890> go to manual edit
[06:27] <jeed890> choose partition on the hdd u wanna use
[06:27] <orphaned> can anyone help me with regards to a laser printer installation?
[06:27] <orphaned> please?
[06:28] <jeed890> then make a new partition
[06:28] <jeed890> maybe 2
[06:28] <jeed890> make sure file types are
[06:28] <jeed890> swap
[06:28] <Matthew> jowi <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:28] <Jowi> !tell orphaned about printing
[06:28] <jeed890> and ext2 or ext3
[06:28] <olicat> does anyone know of a service that lets you  have use ssh? i'm trying to test a server, but need to test it from 'outside'
[06:28] <jeed890> ok jesse?
[06:28] <jesse_> two really big swap partitions?
[06:29] <jeed890> 1 over 1.6 gb swap and another ext2 or ext3
[06:29] <orphaned> its regarding an error I get when I try to run the setup script provided by Xerox...
[06:29] <Jowi> Matthew: Your router address (gateway for your computers) is <IP_ADDRESS>. in linux: "ifconfig eth0 inet <IP_ADDRESS> up"
[06:29] <jesse_> OOOOOOOO Thanks
[06:29] <toothpick> I want to move my home partition to a new partition.
[06:29] <hd420> % sudo /sbin/ifconfig eth0 inet <IP_ADDRESS> netmask 0xffffff00 down
[06:29] <jesse_> now I understand
[06:29] <jesse_> many thanks
[06:29] <hd420> SIOSIFADDR: File exists
[06:30] <jeed890> toothpick just do copy partition
[06:30] <toothpick> Do I just do this: cp -rf /home  TO THE NEW PARTITION?
[06:30] <hd420> SIONETMASK: Cannot assign requested address
[06:30] <jeed890> anytime jesse any problems get back to me
[06:30] <toothpick> Then in fstab mount the NEW PARTITION as /home ?
[06:30] <jeed890> that should work
[06:30] <orphaned> I tried the wiki already. I did the instructions but this is what I get: /home/orphaned/.setup14045: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:30] <jeed890> or get a partitioning program
[06:30] <Matthew> jowi - now i have an inet
[06:30] <crankshaft> hi, how do I run "dict" when i have installed "dict" and "moby-thesaurus" .... i really need a thesaurus and can't figure out how to actually run the program
[06:30] <jeed890> to do it for you
[06:30] <Matthew> how do i tell if it is working?
[06:30] <Jowi> Matthew: "ping -c 5 <IP_ADDRESS>"
[06:31] <Danielle-> hi, are the ubuntuforums being DDoSed atm? i'd do some traceroute times but i'm still abit of a newbie with Ubuntu and don't have the correct tolls
[06:31] <hd420> what gives?
[06:31] <hd420> % sudo /sbin/ifconfig eth0 inet <IP_ADDRESS> netmask 0xffffff00 up
[06:31] <hd420> SIOSIFADDR: File exists
[06:31] <hd420> SIONETMASK: Cannot assign requested address
[06:31] <Bufferfly> hey people, i burnt the cdrom with nero, but it wont boot....bios options checked. any ideas?
[06:31] <orphaned> does this mean I have to install libgtk-1.2?
[06:31] <Jowi> Danielle-: forums just got slow a few minutes ago. noticed it myself
[06:31] <Matthew> jowi - it did it ok once, then 4 "destination host unreachable"
[06:31] <toothpick> jeed copy partition?