[00:01] <Chaser> Hi, I wish to add custom users to /etc/passwd file (and /etc/group). Is there way to add these custom entries to a different file and the login authentication mechanism picks them up ? I want to keep /etc/passwd distribution default and have my own entries in a separate file if thats possible.
[00:02] <Chaser> Like where you define your own cron entries in /etc/cron.d etc
[00:16] <sorbolene> gah, not sure if my last message went though. just wondering if anyone here that is good with upstart could advise if this script is OK? for loading a node app: http://pastebin.com/9BTXT3ij
[00:17] <wafflejock> Penguinguy: check out xsane for scanning
[00:21] <doctorly> Anyone know how to turn off weird kernel output on 14.04 with kernel 4.1.1
[00:21] <doctorly> By that I mean, it is like tripple overlapped characters and the screen flashes white once.
[00:22] <wafflejock> doctorly: just during startup?
[00:23] <doctorly> wafflejock: Yeah, before ubuntu loads up, just the kernel output, but turning off kernel output in grub didn't fix it.
[00:23] <daftykins> where did you get that kernel?
[00:24] <wafflejock> doctorly: typically the thing that shows the loading screen to not show the verbose output going on is called plymouth
[00:25] <Ivoah> Do I want LVM on a new Ubuntu install?
[00:25] <doctorly> wafflejock: could you rephrase that? I am misunderstanding  what you meant.
[00:25] <daftykins> Ivoah: not if you want to keep things simple.
[00:25] <doctorly> daftykins: one moment, let check my links.
[00:25] <Ivoah> What are the disadvantages to LVM?
[00:25] <wafflejock> doctorly: just the package/program that runs to show you some loading screen instead of the kernel output is called plymouth if you search on ubuntu 14.04 plymouth you may come up with something
[00:26] <wafflejock> doctorly: I've had times I needed to mess with plymouth's configuration or reinstall for it to work properly
[00:26] <daftykins> Ivoah: having to learn how to use it
[00:26] <daftykins> it's mostly for resizing of disks and partitions after the fact.
[00:27] <doctorly> daftykins: it was an official kernel from the ppa. kernel.ubuntu.com.
[00:27] <daftykins> mainline?
[00:27] <doctorly> wafflejock: Oh alright, I will try to mess with that quick.
[00:27] <daftykins> hrmm, those are really only for testing - why are you using it?
[00:28] <doctorly> daftykins: yeah mainline
[00:29] <doctorly> It adds support for trackpad on my computer and is fairly stable, just caused some weird kernel output on start, figure I just need to reconfigure something. I will try what wafflejock suggested now.
[00:29] <doctorly> I think it is considered extremely stable.
[00:54] <estudiante> facebook
[01:16] <Or1on> have anyone experience xwindow crash & logout when using chrome maximized in Unity? I can trigger the crash by using the mouse wheel to change tabs. I can force a crash by switching a lot of tabs with the wheel.
[01:17] <Or1on> This is on ubuntu 14.04
[01:18] <Or1on> chrome 44.0.2403.155 (64-bit) and intel GPU  HD4600 with i915 driver
[01:21] <Or1on> I really like unity... there used to be a 2D Unity that was nice... Is there any other alternative that is similar to the unity experience?
[01:21] <wileee> Or1on, If I rolled you down the stairs, how would you feel, you're somewhat doing the same.
[01:22] <Or1on> wileee, I don't get the analogy. please explain.
[01:23] <wileee> Or1on, using the wheel like that kicks out random code is my guess, your not going from a to b directly, the hardware/software may be over run.
[01:24] <wileee> should work depending on a number of factors is all it would seem, just guessing though
[01:24] <Or1on> wileee, I used that without problems with the nvidia driver/card. and what I described was only how to trigger the crash quickly. it took me a real long time to find out that using the wheel to change tabs created a crash
[01:25] <wileee> cool, just wondering myself
[01:32] <Or1on> I'm going to try using "use system title bar and borders" with chrome to see if that makes a difference.
[01:42] <khaldrogox> does anyone run Cannonical Openstack here?
[01:47] <OerHeks> khaldrogox, some of us do, you might ask in #ubuntu-server too
[01:47] <khaldrogox> OerHeks, thanks! I had a question regarding 10 node licensing.
[01:47] <khaldrogox> site says its free, but I have a "Outage in X days* on my cloud region monitor.
[01:48] <khaldrogox> I am not worried as nothing prod is running there
[01:48] <khaldrogox> but I am in the middle of testing and its a bit concerning
[01:48] <khaldrogox> timer also counts down a lot quicker than days -- more like 2-3 days each day.
[01:51] <Emanuel> help needed please. I have a ubuntu system on my home network. I can see it from My windows 10 system but do not have access to a fold that I am sharing on the network. i used nataulis to make the share. How can I fix this so I can acceess the folder for reading and writing?> I have ssh access only to the ubuntu system right now (too lazy to go to the basement)'
[01:52] <Stanley00> Emanuel: you can use winscp to copy files/folders with ssh
[01:53] <Emanuel> Stanley00, It's not an issue of copying the files. it's an issue that when I try to browse to the shared folder I'm told I lack permission
[01:53] <ericlucio> Hello, i installled ubuntu 15.04 but the nvidia proprietary driver is bugged and i cant start the gui(appear lots of fragments and it freezes), i entering the recovery mode and in the terminal. Whoe can i change the driver or put the generic again?
[01:53] <Stanley00> Emanuel: oh, for the samba part, I cannot help since I've never used it.
[01:54] <Emanuel> Windows says it can't access \\PRINTERSERVER\Plexfolder You do not have permission to access \\PRINTSERVER\Plexfolder. Contact your network administrator to request access'
[02:03] <dragonbite>  :)
[02:08] <daftykins> Emanuel: are you attempting to use user+pass authentication from Windows?
[02:09] <Emanuel> daftykins, No I believe I have guest allowed.
[02:09] <daftykins> 1) Leave the homegroup on the win10 machine (if it's in one) 2) set an smb password on the ubuntu system 3) ensure the share was created properly with 'testparm' 4) restart samba with "sudo service smbd restart" (might be samba, not smbd)
[02:11] <Emanuel> daftykins, How camn i view the shares? My end goal is to be able to use my FireTV to watch movies on my plex system
[02:12] <lkthomas> very strange that some of my ubuntu setup will auto generate 70-persistent-net.rules, some of them didn't
[02:13] <daftykins> Emanuel: view the shares? what do you mean
[02:13] <Steven_M> Dones ubuntu still use unity by default, or has it returned to gnome?
[02:13] <somsip> Steven_M: unity
[02:13] <daftykins> Emanuel: just browsing in Windows to \\IP or name of server\ would work
[02:14] <Emanuel> daftykins, I don't see the Share I made listed in the output of testparm BUT I also don't see the folder that is shared when I use testparrm
[02:14] <artois> Steven_M: Unity is mostly a layer on top of GNOME, however, so there's that
[02:14] <daftykins> Emanuel: oh yeah that'll be due to the nautilus method of sharing the folder you used, probably not gonna work automatically that.
[02:15] <daftykins> not without at the very least a restart
[02:15] <Emanuel> daftykins, a restart of the Ubuntu sysetm or restart of SMB?
[02:15] <daftykins> both
[02:16] <daftykins> though one causes the other ;)
[02:16] <Emanuel> daftykins, Ok let me do a reboot
[02:16] <daftykins> quite honestly a GUI share is never going to be as reliable as a nice proper samba share defined in smb.conf :>
[02:17] <Emanuel> daftykins, I don't have time now to learn how to code a samba share. In November I will but not before then. Quuick & Dirty will work for my fiance for now
[02:18] <nishanth> am having trouble opening a tar file...can someone help with it?
[02:19] <bendun> hi everyone, i'm looking for a confident programmer who is interested in politics.
[02:19] <jthan> roo
[02:21] <daftykins> Emanuel: you'll never change it if you don't get it right first time.
[02:21] <r00t^2> how do i disable IPv6 for the installer via the kernel commandline? i'm booting debian-installer from iPXE.
[02:21] <daftykins> bendun: well you're in the wrong place
[02:21] <daftykins> !ot
[02:22] <bendun> daftykins: well i need to find out how to host something off an ubuntu server
[02:22] <daftykins> bendun: that is not dev or politics :P
[02:22] <Steven_M> somsip: okay, is there a spin-off version for gnome, in the same way that KDE users have Kubuntu?
[02:22] <OerHeks> r00t^2, ask in #debian ?
[02:22] <bendun> daftykins: :P well i better go now lol
[02:23] <somsip> bendun: if you can form a straightforward question about ubuntu, then just ask. But if it's nothign to do with ubuntu really, expect to be told to go elsewhere
[02:23] <somsip> !flavors | Steven_M
[02:23] <wafflejock> Steven_M: yup Ubuntu Gnome edition
[02:23] <r00t^2> OerHeks: i'm booting ubuntu. ubuntu kernel, ubuntu initrd.
[02:23] <Leo7Mario> i have this problem with gdm on ubuntu 12.04
[02:23] <maxilla> leo7mario: say what it is
[02:24] <Steven_M> artois: interesting, I did not know that.
[02:24] <Leo7Mario> whenever i log out or switch users
[02:24] <Leo7Mario> it goes to a black screen
[02:24] <Leo7Mario> and i can't go to another tty or kill X11
[02:25] <xrfang> hi, if I calculate the sha1 of a datablock, then encrypt the sha1 with a safe algorithm, e.g. aes, and send the encrypted hash as "signature" to the recipient, will it be safe to authenticate the data? what's the difference between this simple approach and HMAC?
[02:27] <Leo7Mario> if i hard-shutdown the computer it will go back to gdm and i can be able to log in again, but if i log out or switch users it goes to a black screen and sometimes displays a cursor
[02:28] <limbera> i've created a bash script to setup and run my gunicorn application server but the bash script is not properly setting my env variables
[02:28] <limbera> http://dpaste.com/1GBTZGS
[02:28] <limbera> can someone help me out with that
[02:29] <daftykins> Leo7Mario: check its' logs
[02:29] <Leo7Mario> where does it store the logs
[02:29] <daftykins> limbera: ask in #bash
[02:29] <limbera> thank you
[02:29] <daftykins> Leo7Mario: where all the logs live
[02:29] <Steven_M> somsip: wafflejock: thanks :-)
[02:30] <Leo7Mario>  /var/log?
[02:30] <maxilla> leo7mario: try that
[02:31] <maxilla> Leo7Mario: it's in /var/log/gdm
[02:31] <OerHeks> r00t^2, i think you need to setup your pxe service right, /etc/dnsmasq.conf
[02:31] <Leo7Mario> ok there's 69 different files in there
[02:32] <r00t^2> OerHeks: it's booting just fine. it boots to the installer. please re-read my question.
[02:32] <maxilla> Leo7Mario: what's the most recent one
[02:32] <jthan> Leo7Mario: to clarify, it should be in /var/log/gdm -- simply called gdm.log
[02:33] <daftykins> Leo7Mario: Linux devs are cunning and name logs to do with the program
[02:34] <maxilla> Leo7Mario: put the log on pastebin
[02:34] <maxilla> then post the link here
[02:35] <daftykins> !paste
[02:35] <r00t^2> OerHeks: and before you say it, i'm aware i can do it with a preseed file- but i'm trying to avoid using a preseed file, nor should i need to use one as there's a perfectly good kernel command-line paramater- ipv6.ipv6_disable - yet it is not honoured by the ubuntu installer.
[02:35] <slixpk> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 server. How do I start inetd as a service?
[02:35] <Leo7Mario> ok i have 3 log files with the same timestamp, :0.log, :0-greeter.log, and :0-slave.log
[02:35] <Leo7Mario> should i upload all of them?
[02:35] <r00t^2> OerHeks: so i'll ask again- what boot parameter is the ubuntu installer expecting to disable ipv6 autoconfiguration?
[02:35] <maxilla> Leo7Mario: GDM.LOG
[02:36] <Leo7Mario> there is no gdm.log there is a folder for gdm though
[02:36] <pygmyGeek> look in the gdm folder
[02:36] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[02:37] <Or1on> wileee, one of the indicators (psensor) was causing the crashes I was having when using the mouse wheel to switch tabs on chrome. It seems to be normal now :o)
[02:38] <Leo7Mario> pastebin.com/dMkfPp6q
[02:38] <pygmyGeek> Leo7Mario: were you in /var/log
[02:38] <pygmyGeek> or /var/log/gdm
[02:38] <Leo7Mario>  /var/log/gdm
[02:38] <pygmyGeek> was that the directory with the three files?
[02:38] <Leo7Mario> yeah
[02:39] <pygmyGeek> ls && pastebinit
[02:40] <pygmyGeek> .:Leo7Mario:. pastebin.com/dMkfPp6q
[02:40] <pygmyGeek> what file was that btw
[02:40] <Leo7Mario> :0.log
[02:40] <pygmyGeek> you said there was another gdm folder?
[02:41] <Leo7Mario> pastebin.com/pW2rfPW7 is :0-greeter.log
[02:41] <OerHeks> r00t^2, not sure this multi-pxe is any help, it is still configured serverside https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro
[02:41] <Leo7Mario> and pastebin.com/hA32gwnd is :0-slave.log
[02:41] <pygmyGeek> can you share the full ls for /var/log/gdm?
[02:41] <Leo7Mario> ok
[02:41] <pygmyGeek> Leo7Mario: ls && pastebinit
[02:42] <pygmyGeek> run that
[02:42] <zykotick9> pygmyGeek: ahhh "ls && pastebinit" doesn't seem right?!?  "ls | pastebinit" perhaps?
[02:43] <pygmyGeek> zykotick9: whoops
[02:43] <pygmyGeek> I believe both work
[02:43] <pygmyGeek> but i may be mistaken
[02:43] <r00t^2> OerHeks: that is not helpful. it lists disabling IPv6 disabling for e.g. Fedora, but not Ubuntu.
[02:43] <Leo7Mario> pastebin.com/LjWmrKvN
[02:44] <pygmyGeek> any directories in /var/log/gdm?
[02:44] <Leo7Mario> nope
[02:44] <Leo7Mario> just files
[02:44] <pygmyGeek> try :7.log
[02:44] <pygmyGeek> and :7-greeter.log
[02:44] <pygmyGeek> and :7-slave.log
[02:45] <Leo7Mario> ok those are modified before the problem
[02:45] <Leo7Mario> i just started experiencing the problem today
[02:45] <pygmyGeek> ok that's useful information
[02:46] <pygmyGeek> so I'm assuming the most recent logs were the :0.log files
[02:46] <Leo7Mario> yes
[02:47] <Leo7Mario> and i already pastebinned all 3 of them
[02:47] <pygmyGeek> I saw
[02:48] <Leo7Mario> wait now that i think about it those might not be the troubling logs because the date modified plus my uptime equals the current date and time
[02:53] <c0rd4x> list
[02:53] <c0rd4x> -l
[02:55] <Leo7Mario> i might take a little break. if you think you know what the problem or solution is please tell me
[02:59] <daftykins> Leo7Mario: upgrade to 14.04
[03:01] <pygmyGeek> daftykins: apparently his pc can't run it somehow
[03:01] <daftykins> that seems unlikely
[03:01] <pygmyGeek> yeah
[03:01] <pygmyGeek> we discussed it on another network before he was told to join here
[03:01] <daftykins> well that's useful
[03:01] <daftykins> i'd wager that conclusion is wrong though
[03:10] <Ivoah> I'm having issues with VLC on a fresh Ubuntu install
[03:11] <Ivoah> I insert a DVD and open it in VLC
[03:11] <Ivoah> then click play
[03:11] <Leo7Mario> yeah i cannot upgrade to 14.04 due to my computer's graphics card not supporting hardware acceleration.
[03:12] <Ivoah> but it immediately pauses it
[03:13] <Leo7Mario> also i had this problem where a floppy doesn't mount automatically, i easily fixed that through editing a file.
[03:13] <Leo7Mario> but the problem on highest priority is my gdm black screen issue
[03:15] <Bashing-om> Leo7Mario: Choose a Desktop environment that does not require hardware acceleration ??
[03:15] <Leo7Mario> ok
[03:16] <Leo7Mario> actually if this helps
[03:16] <Leo7Mario> i'm on 64 bit ubuntu 12.04
[03:16] <Leo7Mario> not 32-bit
[03:16] <Bashing-om> Leo7Mario: "ubuntu" does require acceleration . best I recall (L)ubuntu does not .
[03:17] <Leo7Mario> yeah i know
[03:17] <Leo7Mario> but i'm worried packages will get removed
[03:18] <Leo7Mario> i'm gonna be afk got to go to a movie
[03:19] <surgy> hello
[03:20] <surgy> im running lubuntu 14.04 how do i disable sticky keys?
[03:22] <surgy> sorry kubuntu not lubuntu
[03:23] <superteece> Is there a support channel for Duplicity?
[03:23] <daftykins> http://askubuntu.com/questions/120010/how-do-i-turn-on-sticky-keys-from-the-cli
[03:23] <daftykins> !alis | superteece dunno, have a look
[03:23] <Galaxy> ok
[03:24] <Ivoah> I'm having issues with VLC on a fresh Ubuntu install
[03:24] <Ivoah> I insert a DVD and open it in VLC
[03:24] <Ivoah> then click play
[03:24] <Ivoah> but it immediately pauses it
[03:25] <daftykins> but you do see it?
[03:42] <Galaxy> hello
[03:49] <yazeenq> yo
[03:51] <lhuichicoy> hello
[03:51] <lhuichicoy> !!
[03:51] <rocklobster> Can anyone help? I'm having a super hard time changing the brightness on my HP Pavilion G6.
[03:52] <lhuichicoy> I'm new here..
[03:52] <daftykins> lhuichicoy: either ask a support question or go to #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[04:04] <on247> hi
[04:05] <on247> i want to mount a directory as another
[04:05] <on247> but i wamt the files owner by user a appear as if owned by user b
[04:05] <daftykins> what's the directory stored on?
[04:06] <on247> my drive
[04:06] <daftykins> and what's the reason for this crazy approach?
[04:06] <daftykins> !xy
[04:06] <daftykins> i think you've got an xy problem right there
[04:06] <on247> i have user nobody that owns my Samba share
[04:06] <daftykins> mmhmm
[04:07] <on247> i have that share bind mounted in my ubuntu based container
[04:07] <on247> i have a db directory owned by postgres
[04:07] <daftykins> and an itchy enter key finger
[04:08] <Aemith> I have a question.  What you do?
[04:08] <on247> i can no longer access that specific directory from anywhere mounting the share as its no longer owned by nobody , which is the guest user
[04:09] <on247> enjoy the ride ?
[04:09] <daftykins> !ops | Aemith
[04:09] <on247> but lets get back to the share question , i really really dont want to mess with samba setting
[04:10] <on247> DATA directory <- Samba container -> Web dev container
[04:11] <on247> dev has mounted the DATA directory
[04:12] <on247> Cant i just make the folder as if owned by postgres using mount ?
[04:12] <daftykins> not if that user doesn't exist on your system
[04:12] <on247> which system ?
[04:12] <daftykins> the host doing the mounting
[04:13] <on247> it exists there
[04:13] <on247> in the last container in the chain the one writing stuff to the share
[04:13] <on247> via bind mount
[04:14] <daftykins> ok i've decided it's way too late for my brain to unravel that mess :)
[04:14] <on247> :(
[04:14] <on247> no that complex
[04:14] <daftykins> no but it's 5am here
[04:14] <daftykins> my care factor is at an all time low
[04:14] <daftykins> good luck!
[04:15] <on247> A is sharing /DATA by samba using user nobody, B has mounted that directory
[04:15] <Mathewwe> Can anyone help me with an issue I've been having with Ubuntu gnome and Linux in general? Nobody is on the Ubuntu  gnome channel
[04:16] <daftykins> !details
[04:16] <daftykins> don't ask to ask, just ask.
[04:16] <on247> B wants to write files to that folder owned by postgres but then  A wont be able to share the files as no longer owned by nobody
[04:16] <on247> how i could make it work ?
[04:18] <Mathewwe> Alright. So what seems to be happening is for whatever reason whenever I try to use the desktop on Ubuntu gnome is leaves me at a black screen. I know Linux is responding as I can use ctrl alt f1 to get to the terminal and login from there, but I cannot use the DE. I tried installing drivers for my graphics card to no avail. Any suggestions for what to try next?
[04:20] <on247> Anyone
[04:21] <on247> i just want to make all files owned by a appear as i owned by b
[04:21] <on247> using some mount option
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> Mathewwe: Is it Gnome that's not loading, or the login screen?  (Do other DEs work?)
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> on247: Have you seen the uid option to mount.cifs?
[04:23] <Mathewwe> The login screen loads, but as soon as I log in it goes to aforementioned black screen. I've tried using other DEs and even whole other distros(debian)
[04:23] <on247> does it exist for bind mounts ?
[04:24] <on247> B actually doesent access the share as share but as a mounte dir
[04:25] <valcea> .query wxL
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> on247: No, this would be different.  Why not just mount it again?
[04:27] <Mathewwe> @tonyyarusso sorry I forgot to mention you
[04:27] <on247> B actually doesent mount the share but shares a bind mounter directory with the actual samba server
[04:27] <on247> B is a container
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> Mathewwe: Curious...
[04:28] <valcea> hi
[04:30] <on247> Alternatively  could i just tell samba to share the effing files no mater who is the owner as long as they are in /DATA
[04:32] <daftykins> you might be able to just add uid=# and gid=# to your mount options
[04:32] <daftykins> e.g. -o uid=1000,gid=1000
[04:35] <Mathewwe> @tonyyarusso think it might be my graphics card causing the problem?
[04:36] <daftykins> you could pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log to show if there's an issue
[04:36] <daftykins> Mathewwe: ^
[04:39] <Mathewwe> @daftykins Would installing xserver-xorg-video-ati have any effect? I'm not at my computer right now so I'm just brainstorming how I should go about this and doing some research
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> Mathewwe: Either the card, how your card is detected, or how things get configured as a result anyway.  Not really sure from there - the log daftykins mentioned may help.
[04:44] <Mathewwe> @tonyyarusso I've been  looking for a reason to get a new card for while now. Is nvidia compatibility good?
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> Mathewwe: "It depends" :)
[04:46] <Mathewwe> @tonyyarusso I'll look into it when I decide if I'm getting a new card.
[04:56] <marketing3> help...
[05:04] <joral> hello, anyone have any experience with snd-powerpc?
[05:07] <Halelujah> hi! My sound is not working after restart i'm using snd-hda-intel driver
[05:07] <alexbucuresti> hi
[05:12] <Halelujah> gatis@pc:~$ dmesg | grep hda
[05:12] <Halelujah> [   15.115477] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:14.2: CORB reset timeout#1, CORBRP = 0
[05:12] <Halelujah> [   15.115496] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:14.2: no codecs found!
[05:12] <Halelujah> What does this mean?
[05:12] <Leo7Mario> sorry, my computer's battery died
[05:12] <Leo7Mario> so what's the solution?
[05:12] <Leo7Mario> also for your info that gdm bug is new
[05:12] <Leo7Mario> like it just started happening today
[05:13] <Leo7Mario> before it didn't happen.
[05:13] <Leo7Mario> but now it is
[05:13] <Computer> hello?
[05:13] <Leo7Mario> also that trick with removing gnome-screensaver
[05:13] <Leo7Mario> didn't work
[05:21] <Leo7Mario> umm anybody know that problem i had
[05:21] <Leo7Mario> with gdm
[05:21] <Leo7Mario> maybe it has to do with gnomescreensaver
[05:23] <Leo7Mario> nope
[05:23] <Leo7Mario> not even xscreensaver fixes it
[05:24] <Leo7Mario> i thought that was the fix since whenever i switched users it didn't do it.
[05:24] <Leo7Mario> wait a second i have some more info
[05:24] <Leo7Mario> not only does it do that bug where the computer freezes after switching users or logging out
[05:25] <Leo7Mario> wait i got a bios error
[05:25] <Leo7Mario> oh nevermind
[05:25] <Leo7Mario> it's just my computer overheated
[05:33] <mohib> hello
[05:33] <mohib> Does anyone have experience with installing scanners?
[05:33] <Ivoah> I'm having sound issues on my fresh Ubuntu install
[05:34] <Ivoah> It detects a soundcard and everything
[05:34] <Ivoah> but there's not sound coming out of the speakers
[05:34] <mohib> ?
[05:34] <Ivoah> mohib: What's your issue?
[05:35] <mohib> Ubuntu 12.04 installation of Fujitsu ScanSnap S1300i
[05:36] <Ivoah> hmm
[05:37] <Ivoah> well, headphones work
[05:37] <Ivoah> but the speakers don't
[05:37] <mohib> Ivoah do you have experience with Ubuntu 12.04 installation of Fujitsu ScanSnap S1300i?
[05:37] <joral> Ivoah: often the soundcard defaults to muted in mixer.  Have you double checked that its unmuted?
[05:38] <Ivoah> joral: Yeah
[05:39] <aib> Ivoah: try playing around with pavucontrol
[05:39] <Leo7Mario> wait you know how i said something about my gdm problem where when i switch users the screen goes black and only shows a cursor
[05:39] <Leo7Mario> well i think i found the cause
[05:40] <Leo7Mario> i resetted my machine and got welcomed by my bios saying my computer overheated
[05:41] <Leo7Mario> but the weird thing is not only does it do it with gdm
[05:41] <Leo7Mario> it also did it with lightdm as well
[05:42] <daftykins> so your card is toast
[05:42] <joral> Leo7Mario, sounds like an ACPI issue to me, something isn't sleeping correctly.
[05:42] <Leo7Mario> ok.
[05:42] <Leo7Mario> i'm in my bios right now
[05:42] <Leo7Mario> and my computer has cooled down a bit
[05:43] <Leo7Mario> like from 70 C to about 40 C
[05:43] <daftykins> ##hardware :)
[05:43] <joral> Leo7Mario, I will say what you don't want to think though, it is possible the ACPI issue is at the hw level and not sw
[05:43] <Leo7Mario> huh
[05:43] <Johnny_Linux> mmmMMMmmm, toasted card    w/cheese
[05:44] <Leo7Mario> well i did build the computer with my problematic ubuntu install
[05:44] <daftykins> super helpful there, Johnny_Linux
[05:44] <joral> Leo7Mario, what everyone else is saying, it is likely hardware
[05:44] <Leo7Mario> yeah
[05:44] <Leo7Mario> it kinda looks like an overheating issue
[05:45] <Leo7Mario> it is summer where i live and my fans are kinda weak.
[05:45] <Johnny_Linux> prolly need to takw a can of air and clean things
[05:45] <daftykins> please take this topic to the relevant channel ##hardware
[05:45] <Leo7Mario> it doesn't do this in lxdm
[05:45] <Leo7Mario> but it does do it in gdm and lightdm
[05:46] <Leo7Mario> my friends who like to use my computer are all linux noobs
[05:47] <Leo7Mario> like they litterally don't know anything about basic terminal commands like cd or ls or cat
[05:47] <daftykins> that's nice, but you're chatting right now in a support channel - please take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[05:47] <Leo7Mario> i'm just explaining my situation
[05:47] <daftykins> and none of it is relevant
[05:48] <Leo7Mario> so i was wondering if there is a fix to gdm that stops this issue
[05:48] <Leo7Mario> or maybe since it's multiple desktop managers it actually might be an x11 issue
[05:48] <daftykins> someone said you claimed 14.04 won't work on your machine, why was that?
[05:48] <Leo7Mario> because my graphics card
[05:48] <daftykins> what of it? legacy AMD?
[05:48] <Leo7Mario> and i really don't want to deal with package conflicts right now
[05:49] <daftykins> well if you have temperature issues then there's no action to be taken but to resolve those first
[05:49] <daftykins> you don't use software to get around hardware issues like temperature
[05:49] <Leo7Mario> well i am in the bios right now
[05:49] <daftykins> the system doesn't idle properly there.
[05:50] <Leo7Mario> ok
[05:50] <Leo7Mario> booting into ubuntu
[05:50] <daftykins> you need to turn it off and investigate the temperature issue
[05:50] <Leo7Mario> well i really can't since it's late at night
[05:51] <daftykins> best stop talking about it and save it for morning then
[05:51] <Leo7Mario> well is there any way to fix this issue
[05:51] <Leo7Mario> the issue is whenever i log out or switch users
[05:52] <daftykins> i already said resolve temperatures first, do you not read?
[05:52] <Leo7Mario> ok fine
[05:52] <Leo7Mario> i'm probably gonna put a big fan right next to my computer then
[05:53] <joral> Leo7Mario, that doesn't explain why its overheating and can actually make airflow through the case worse if your not careful
[05:53] <cfhowlett> Leo7Mario, or (and this is crazy, I know ...) get off the internet/irc and take your hardware to a computer technician?  IF you actually want it fixed ...
[05:53] <Leo7Mario> actually i built my computer myself
[05:53] <daftykins> apparently it doesn't have enough cooling :)
[05:54] <cfhowlett> Leo7Mario, so it would seem.
[05:54] <joral> Leo7Mario, gonna take a wild guess that you did not use a grounding strap
[05:54] <Leo7Mario> i did
[05:54] <daftykins> !ot
[05:54] <daftykins> take it to ##hardware people, third time of asking now.
[05:54] <cfhowlett> Leo7Mario, indeed.  ##hardware for the experts.
[05:55] <Leo7Mario> i'll try it again in an hour
[05:56] <ayush> hi
[05:56] <joral> is there anything that could override the blacklist.local.conf file, or otherwise explain why a blacklisted modules is still being loaded at boot?
[05:57] <ayush> what joral
[05:57] <ayush> hey
[05:57] <ayush> heru
[05:57] <ayush> s
[05:57] <ayush> s
[05:57] <ayush> sd
[05:57] <ayush> df
[05:58] <joral> ayush: I have a module that I have added to blacklist.local.conf, yet it is still loading at system boot
[06:00] <Leo7Mario> wait when i tried doing it again something different showed up
[06:01] <Leo7Mario> it went to gdm but the computer hung and it repetively played the drum noise.
[06:01] <Leo7Mario> and my computer was cooled down
[06:04] <daftykins> nope :) fix. it.
[06:13] <Halelujah> Is Lubuntu abandoned?
[06:15] <xViper> [ASK] how i can enable user home dir on webserver ?
[06:15] <xViper> like this mydomain.com/~user
[06:17] <Kartagis> xViper: Include conf/extra/httpd-userdir.conf
[06:18] <SuperLag> Canonical Landscape seems $$$$$$$$$.
[06:18] <SuperLag> if you guys have multiple Ubuntu machines to admin, and keep up to date... how do you do it efficiently?
[06:19] <zamba> we want to create a partition with around 40 TB.. which fs do you guys recommend for that?
[06:19] <SuperLag> whoa
[06:19] <SuperLag> that's massive
[06:19] <zamba> SuperLag: is it really?
[06:19] <SuperLag> for a single partition? I'd certainly say so
[06:19] <gingerlyred> need help getting access to my portable hard drive, just installed ubuntu pm me for help please
[06:20] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: plug it in
[06:20] <SuperLag> start with that
[06:20] <gingerlyred> already done, wont recognize is
[06:20] <gingerlyred> it
[06:21] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: how are you making the determination it's not recognizing the drive?
[06:21] <zamba> SuperLag: you'd create different small partitions amounting to around 40 TB in total?
[06:21] <gingerlyred> its not on the file explorer but it is on the disks application
[06:21] <SuperLag> zamba: Depends on what I was using the system for. I've never heard of anyone needing a single fs of that size.
[06:22] <SuperLag> zamba: of course, that's not to say there is no application for something like that... I just don't know what that'd be :)
[06:22] <zamba> hehe
[06:22] <nivv> Hey guys! I'm hosting a private VPS with a vzfs filesystem. The vzfs partiion is full, but the host says they've extended the allowed quota. But I don't know how to allocate the new space
[06:22] <SuperLag> zamba: what are you planning on using it for?
[06:23] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: does the portable drive have data on it? is it formatted already?
[06:23] <gingerlyred> it should have data on it, i havent formatted it since i changed os's
[06:23] <gingerlyred> and i only changed os's an hour ago
[06:23] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: what's on that drive?
[06:23] <gingerlyred> music, books, game setup files
[06:24] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: right, but was this drive for your OS, or a secondary drive you had stuff put on?
[06:24] <gingerlyred> secondary
[06:24] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: and was this something you'd formatted in Windows?
[06:25] <gingerlyred> yea before i put stuff on it
[06:25] <SuperLag> do you remember what type of filesystem you formatted it as? FAT or NTFS?
[06:25] <gingerlyred> ntfs
[06:25] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: you comfy with the command line?
[06:26] <gingerlyred> the terminal says the system on the drive is GPT and the id is ee
[06:26] <jonny_> ciao a tutti
[06:26] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: if not, I suggest you get to that point. It'll only help. :)
[06:26] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: if you run dmesg, what drive letter comes up at/near the end?
[06:27] <jonny_> ci sono toscane?
[06:27] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: something like /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc
[06:27] <SuperLag> jonny_: there's probably an Italian channel for you.
[06:27] <gingerlyred> its dev/sdb
[06:29] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: okay, all one partition, or did you make multiple?
[06:29] <gingerlyred> multiple, made sdb and sdb2
[06:30] <gingerlyred> from what it looks like on disks sdb2 has the 250gbs (not all of that is used)
[06:30] <gingerlyred> sorry it made 3 partitions, sdb,sdb1,sbd2
[06:30] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: try sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[06:31] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: that's only going to be two parititons
[06:31] <gingerlyred> got: mount: block device /dev/sdb2 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[06:31] <gingerlyred> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[06:31] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: sdb is the name of the disk, and sdb1 and sdb2 are partitions on that did
[06:32] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: Okay. Try this, then: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb2
[06:32] <SuperLag> then if you run just "mount" it'll tell you where it mounted it to... probably something in /media/youruser/......
[06:33] <gingerlyred> says only root can do that
[06:33] <SuperLag> sorry... sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb2
[06:35] <gingerlyred> it basically gave me a list of help options
[06:39] <lala> Hello
[06:39] <lala> this is for help, right?
[06:40] <k1l> Guest12422: yes, just ask if its ubuntu support
[06:40] <Guest12422> ok, then i have a question
[06:41] <Guest12422> i'm trying to restore data from an errored harddisk
[06:41] <Afdla> anyone knows how to change mouse sensitivity through terminal in 15.04?
[06:41] <Afdla> xset m doesn't work
[06:41] <Guest12422> I'm trying to restore the data on ubuntu but I can't find any drives in Computer
[06:42] <wafflejock> Guest12422: if you run lslblk, in the terminal do you see the drive there?
[06:43] <Guest12422> " Command 'lsblk' from package 'util-linux' (main) lslblk: command not found"
[06:43] <wafflejock> Guest12422: sorry mistype on my part
[06:43] <wafflejock> Guest12422: meant lsblk
[06:44] <Guest12422> "NAME  MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda     8:0    0 465.8G  0 disk  sr0    11:0    1  1006M  0 rom  /cdrom loop0   7:0    0 962.1M  1 loop /rofs"
[06:44] <k1l> Guest12422: can you see the disk in the bios?
[06:44] <wafflejock> Guest12422: use paste.ubuntu.com to share multiline here
[06:45] <Guest12422> in the bios? how?
[06:46] <Guest12422> wafflejock: what kind of syntax?
[06:46] <wafflejock> Guest12422: was just saying what you pasted earlier that is across multiple lines is better to share here http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[06:48] <Guest12422> wafflejock: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12116433/
[06:51] <wafflejock> Guest12422: okay yeah not showing the disk so probably something not working in the controller on the hard drive or something, not much hope then, like k1l said you could try checking to see if the hard disk can be seen in the BIOS setup in the boot disk section or otherwise but sounds like it's not communicating
[06:52] <Guest12422> okay, i will be right back.
[06:55] <notdaniel> outside of lvm, is there a decent way to 'snapshot' my current ubuntu install? other than, say, imaging the whole thing
[06:58] <bazhang> !info grsync
[06:58] <sogeking99> Hey guys, any idea what Cinnamon appletts are programmed in?
[06:59] <Guest12422> wait i forgot what to do again
[07:00] <Guest12422> i went to BIOS setup, then what
[07:01] <notdaniel> Guest12422: missed your problem, what's the full issue? can't boot from ubuntu, or your computer can't see the disk at all?
[07:02] <Guest12422> my computer can't see the disk at all
[07:02] <notdaniel> is it a new disk? has it ever seen it? have other machines seen it?
[07:02] <Guest12422> i'm trying to restore my files from Hard Disk Error 2F1
[07:02] <k1l> Guest12422: then see if it lists that hdd somewhere. that depends on your actual mainboard/bios. but its about checking if that hdd is working at all or dead.
[07:02] <Guest12422> I mean 3F1
[07:02] <k1l> Guest12422: because if its dead there is nothing ubuntu can do
[07:02] <notdaniel> Guest12422: yeah if it's dead, it's hard to tell. pop it into an external dock if you have one, or similar, to make sure it work at all
[07:03] <Guest12422> i don't have an external dock, unfortunately. plus it's on a laptop so it's hard to take it out
[07:03] <notdaniel> making sure you have AHCI enabled in your BIOS is always good, but usually that's enabled anyway
[07:04] <Guest12422> Well the total memory says its 2 GB which is weird
[07:04] <notdaniel> so i'm guessing you have more than 2gb then
[07:04] <Guest12422> Yes
[07:05] <Guest12422> At least before the crash
[07:05] <notdaniel> check for a bios update exists for your machine. install it. reseat the RAM/HD/whatever else
[07:05] <Guest12422> Oh wait i'm on boot options now
[07:06] <notdaniel> and what does it show you
[07:07] <Guest12422> CD ROM Boot enabled,Internal Network Adapter Boot Enabled, Network Boot Protocol IPv4 legacy...
[07:07] <Guest12422> should that be it?
[07:09] <Guest12422> oh ok i'll search for bios update
[07:10] <Guest12422> wait you can check the updates in the BIOS settings?
[07:12] <notdaniel> Guest12422: no you'll need to boot into something and check your machine's model
[07:12] <notdaniel> but honestly i don't think that's the issue
[07:13] <notdaniel> make sure AHCI is turned on. you are _sure_ this drive is bootable? do you have like a live ubuntu cd or some such thing to boot the machine from
[07:14] <Guest12422> well i have a live ubuntu cd
[07:15] <Guest12422> oh so i use ubuntu. OK
[07:15] <notdaniel> most of the time i see a drive not show up in the boot menu, it's either 1) the drive just plain isn't plugged in right, 2) the BIOS can't boot from UEFI and the drive has a UEFI install on it (or the exact inverse of that problem)
[07:15] <notdaniel> 3) AHCI isn't turned on for some bizarre weird-ass reason
[07:15] <notdaniel> or 4) i have a laptop that honest to god required a couple bios updates before it would boot off certain drives
[07:16] <BotchlaB> notdaniel: USB drives?
[07:16] <notdaniel> BotchlaB: i'm referring to internal sata drives.
[07:17] <notdaniel> this one dell laptop i have refused to boot from anythin UEFI about 70% of the time until a couple updates.
[07:18] <Guest12422> so you just update the BIOS?
[07:18] <notdaniel> Guest12422: i mean, it's hard to tell because this could be any of several problems
[07:18] <Guest12422> but it's one of the solutions, right?
[07:19] <notdaniel> even though it is time-consuming, the first thing i usually do in this case (once i've made sure AHCI is on, UEFI vs legacy boot is corect, etc.) is pull the damn thing out of the computer and make sure it works
[07:19] <notdaniel> (i dropped in here after your original question so i don't know what type of installation is on this drive)
[07:19] <notdaniel> but UEFI vs legacy is another thing, depending on how/where you installed the OS on that drive you cant boot
[07:20] <Guest12422> oh ok
[07:20] <notdaniel> this was a drive that worked until a crash? or this is a new/different drive/install?
[07:20] <Guest12422> well if you're asking for more information my laptop kinda jumps out of places before it crashed
[07:20] <Guest12422> yeah it worked before it crashed
[07:20] <notdaniel> so this drive in question booted, and then crashed, and now does not boot?
[07:21] <notdaniel> ok, and have you booted with a live usb to see if ubuntu can see it?
[07:21] <Guest12422> Yes, I'm having ubuntu rn
[07:21] <notdaniel> not even the file system itself, because that could very well have gotten messed up, but can it see the hardware itself
[07:22] <Guest12422> how do you do that?
[07:22] <notdaniel> if you run 'sudo lshw -class disk -short' from ubuntu, do you see the drive?
[07:23] <k1l> Guest12422: again: if the bios doesnt list the hdd that hdd is most probaply broken. so there is nothing ubuntu can do about it.
[07:23] <Guest12422> i'm booting with UEFI
[07:23] <notdaniel> k1l: drives don't always show up in the boot menu unless there is something on it to boot from, especially on UEFI machines
[07:24] <notdaniel> the days of the "this disk isn't bootable" error started going away after that switch
[07:24] <notdaniel> UEFI doesn't bother even listing it as an option on plenty of machines unless there's a bootable uuid on it
[07:24] <k1l> notdaniel: i am not talking about boot menu.  i am talking baout the hardware settings menu
[07:26] <notdaniel> k1l: oh definitely, but since he wasn't sure about his settings, but is already in a live iso, we should still be able to at least see signs that the thing exists.
[07:26] <notdaniel> but yeah, like i've said, my first move here would've been to yank the thing out and put it in a dock somewhere else and check it
[07:30] <Guest12422_> Here's what it says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12116612/
[07:32] <Guest12422> It says "500GB", which I think is how much memory it has.
[07:36] <notdaniel> Guest12422: if your hard drive is a 500gb drive made by HGST, then it looks connected to me :)
[07:37] <goju> I am using buntu 14.04 LTS and my software updater is showing security updates pending , but when I try to install them it springs up this msg - The upgrade needs a total of 84.0 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 24.2 M of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'. I have few files...
[07:37] <goju> ...in \boot  and grub folder ...how can I decide what to delete
[07:37] <Guest12422> notdaniel: Oh good! :D Then what.
[07:37] <notdaniel> Guest12422: are you trying to make it boot again, or just get data off it or what?
[07:37] <Guest12422> i'm trying to get the data
[07:37] <notdaniel> Guest12422: run 'parted -l' on it and see what it things it's got on it
[07:38] <acepro> hi anyone just anyone i need help
[07:38] <acepro> guys ?
[07:38] <Guest12422_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12116682/
[07:38] <k1l> !details | acepro
[07:38] <notdaniel> Guest12422: do you have an external drive that's as big as this one? because my obligatory disclaimer: when dealing with any sort of potential data loss, i much prefer to totally clone the drive first, so if you mess it up somehow you still have the clone
[07:39] <goju> notdaniel: I am trying to install the updates
[07:39] <Guest12422> Unfortunately, no
[07:39] <acepro> ok so i am not able to dual boot this os
[07:39] <Guest12422> Unless I can use my desktop
[07:40] <acepro> installed windows 7 , 8 , 10 first ! then tried to install ubuntu 15 / 14 LTS ... it wont show the option to dual boot with windows
[07:40] <k1l> acepro: dos partition table? is it at the 4 primary partitions limit already?
[07:40] <acepro>  the install screen > http://imgur.com/wyZECIM  , https://imgur.com/BRzUNmK  , https://imgur.com/Wa2vbHD and if i go something else https://imgur.com/C0WpiAa  it shows whole 500 gb disk :( not the partiton i created for it separately which is un-partitioned ..https://imgur.com/xRQaLSv
[07:41] <acepro> installed windows 7 , 8 , 10 first ! then tried to install ubuntu 15 / 14 LTS ... it wont show the option to dual boot with windows
[07:42] <acepro> i do not know what u mean by partition table
[07:42] <goju> any one to help
[07:43] <k1l> acepro: please go to the "try ubuntu" live system. then open up a terminal and run "parted -l" and pastebin the output and show the link here
[07:45] <acepro> kil so i need to run termilan and type parted-1 ?  and how do i copy the output //? i think it will be gone if i switch to windows
[07:45] <Guest12422> so should I just make a clone to my desktop?
[07:46] <k1l> acepro: you can stay on the live-ubuntu and join this chat
[07:46] <acepro> k1l how can i contact u later in case i come back and ur not here
[07:46] <k1l> acepro: and the command is "parted -l" a small L at the end
[07:46] <acepro> just give me a few minutes ill switch to ubuntu and come back here
[07:46] <k1l> acepro: others can help too with that info.
[07:47] <acepro> k thank u brb
[07:54] <Guest12422_> um...
[07:54] <Guest12422_> or maybe I should buy an external hard drive tomorrow?
[08:06] <mattiasw> ol
[08:06] <mattiasw> dammit, wrong window.
[08:09] <Guest12422_> okay i guess i can't use a hard drive because it's too expensive to me.
[08:10] <ObrienDave> and your point is......?
[08:11] <Guest12422_> um are you asking me?
[08:11] <Guest12422_> i was in the middle of trying to fix my problem... if you're asking.
[08:17] <ace_> k1l
[08:18] <ace_> still here ?
[08:18] <k1l> ace_: yes, a few minutes
[08:18] <ace_> great
[08:18] <ace_> i am on ubuntu
[08:18] <ace_> i ran the command u gave me does not work
[08:18] <k1l> !paste | run "parted -l" and put the output there
[08:18] <ace_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ parted -1 parted: invalid option -- '1' Usage: parted [-hlmsv] [-a<align>] [DEVICE [COMMAND [PARAMETERS]]...]
[08:18] <k1l> ace_: -l     its a L not a 1
[08:19] <ace_> k still does not work
[08:19] <ace_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ parted -l ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[08:20] <cfhowlett> ace_, sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:21] <ace_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12116861/
[08:22] <ace_> so should i say yes or no ?
[08:23] <cfhowlett> ace_, I missed the first part of your issue:  what hardware?  if it runs win8 or newer, it should be GPT
[08:23] <ace_> windows 8.1
[08:23] <ace_> and it is hp15-r250 tu
[08:24] <ace_> i recently bought it installed windows 10 , 7 , 8 and then 8.1 having same issue also tried ubuntu 15 and 14 lts
[08:24] <ace_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2291141
[08:25] <k1l> is that installed in non-uefi mode?
[08:25] <cfhowlett> !uefi | ace_,
[08:25] <ace_> i think yes
[08:25] <ace_> i mean i think
[08:25] <ace_> its non uefi
[08:25] <k1l> the ubuntu installer is booting in uefi mode, so it cant see the non-uefi win8.1
[08:26] <ace_> as its old bios not the new one meaning its blue screen with white text
[08:26] <ace_> how do i boot it in non uefi mode ?
[08:26] <k1l> you can give ubuntu the kerneloption "nonefi" iirc
[08:26] <Guest12422> notdaniel are you there?
[08:27] <ace_> how do i do that k1l
[08:27] <ace_> also how come firefox works so much better in ubuntu xD and not in windows:P
[08:28] <ace_> though when i am in live mode
[08:28] <ace_> ubuntu also wont shut down
[08:28] <ace_> i have to manually turn the laptop off
[08:28] <cfhowlett> ace_, focus: one issue at a time.
[08:28] <ace_> ok sorry
[08:28] <ace_> so how do i boot it in non efi mode
[08:29] <ObrienDave> *looks around for a size 14 boot* ;P
[08:29] <k1l> ace_: change the boot priority to Legacy/BIOS first, then UEFI to get Ubuntu to boot in BIOS (purple screen) mode.
[08:30] <ace_> um how as i have made a pendrive and i just boot from it and it automatically boots so how do i change order
[08:31] <OerHeks> nonefi is an option with F6, during install
[08:31] <ace_> @ OerHeks so i need to press f6 during install screen or while it boots from pendrive ?
[08:32] <OerHeks> ehm, at the point try / install ubuntu
[08:32] <OerHeks> you will see it at the bottom
[08:33] <ace_> thanks OerHeks and k1l and cfhowlett and everyone else let me try that f6
[08:33] <ace_> brb
[08:34] <ace_> well it just mutes on the installer
[08:34] <ace_> let me try to boot in installer and try that brb thanks again'
[08:39] <navetz> hi guys, if I install KDE to ubuntu, will I basically have kubuntu and ubuntu or how does that work?
[08:40] <bazhang> navetz, some duplicate packages
[08:40] <bazhang> navetz, at tleast with kubuntu-desktop
[08:40] <cfhowlett> navetz, ubuntu is the main OS.   kde-plasma-desktop is the gui + apps
[08:40] <bazhang> navetz, you could go for a more minimal thing like the kde core
[08:43] <navetz> what do you guys suggest?
[08:43] <navetz> If I duplicate packages wont it just kind of be like a souped up version of of each?
[08:43] <ObrienDave> after installing ubuntu, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:44] <nodus> navetz: if your willing to do a bit of work cleaning things up, switching things over by installing kubuntu-desktop is fine
[08:44] <acepro12> sadly f6 did not work
[08:44] <ObrienDave> that will get you KDE and the apps
[08:44] <nodus> navetz: but it can definately leave some configs messed up
[08:44] <navetz> nodus, I can clean it up, what kind of things would I need to do?
[08:44] <navetz> ah dang, I've been upgrading since like 10.04 I think I need to reinstall
[08:45] <navetz> then try to install kubuntu desktop alongside it
[08:45] <nodus> i havent installed kubuntu over a ubuntu install in a long time, so i dont know hoof the top of my head
[08:45] <acepro12> guys ?
[08:46] <navetz> nodes it's cool, if anything goes wrong I can uninstall kubuntu right?
[08:46] <navetz> or will the configs still be messed up
[08:46] <acepro12> q.q guys
[08:47] <nodus> navetz: the configs may be messed up, i would backup first.
[08:47] <cfhowlett> navetz, suggestion: test before you do all that stuff.  install virtualbox.  install your test OS to virtualbox.
[08:47] <acepro12> guys
[08:47] <acepro12> any ideas on what i can do >
[08:48] <Ivon365> How can I install the mobile Ubuntu OS onto my Android device (Samsung Galaxy Note 4)?
[08:48] <cfhowlett> !touch | Ivon365
[08:48] <nodus> navetz, cfhowlett: i agree, but with the adendum that virtualbox will be slower than real hardware, and 3d accel wont work
[08:48] <cfhowlett> nodus, indeed.
[08:48] <acepro12> cfhowlett ?
[08:49] <cfhowlett> ?
[08:49] <nodus> acepro12: you need to ask for help in a more clear way than "guys", please describe in what way did it not work
[08:49] <nodus> this is the same ace fellow as before with a diffrent name
[08:49] <cfhowlett> !details | acepro12
[08:49] <acepro12> well sorry i thought u guys were here when i explained it earlier
[08:50] <nodus> i saw that you needed to boot, but what do you mean "didn't work"
[08:50] <nodus> did it boot to windows, did it load the ubuntu menu and go no farther.
[08:50] <nodus> etc
[08:51] <cfhowlett> acepro12, 5 minutes later and I still have ZERO idea what your issue is/was.  no detailz >>> no helpz.
[08:51] <OerHeks> There is a new kernel update, 3.19.0-26.28, i see it in the list, but "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" does not give it to me, i am still @ 3.19.0-20-generic
[08:52] <OerHeks> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2719-1/
[08:57] <osamu> hi all
[08:59] <baizon> !hi | osamu
[08:59] <baizon> !hello
[08:59] <baizon> damn
[09:04] <ace_> sorry something weird happened
[09:04] <ace_>  but im back now
[09:04] <ace_> my issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2291141&p=13340432#post13340432
[09:05] <ace_> ?
[09:06] <ace_> anyone here ?
[09:08] <naruto> hello
[09:08] <Guest558> hello
[09:09] <Guest558> anyone here ?
[09:09] <baizon> Guest558: always
[09:10] <Guest558> this is my issue please help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2291141&p=13340432#post13340432
[09:12] <Guest558> @baizon  ?
[09:13] <Guest12422> here's my problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/270489
[09:14] <Guest12422> i'd like it to be solved before tomorrow.
[09:14] <Guest12422> please?
[09:16] <Guest12422> um...
[09:17] <Ben64> sounds like you have a broken hard drive
[09:17] <Guest12422> you talking to me, Ben64?
[09:18] <Ben64> yep
[09:18] <Guest12422> so they said that my hard disk is still available and then...?
[09:18] <OerHeks> Guest12422, what is the output of " sudo fdisk -l " past it in paste.ubuntu.com please
[09:19] <Guest12422> ok wait i'm gonna turn on my laptop again
[09:20] <OerHeks> those win10/8/7 partitions do not fly away suddenly
[09:22] <vimes> Hello, I am trying to set up a teamspeak server on Ubuntu 14.04 server but ...I'm not quite sure how to, and google only has old guides
[09:23] <vimes> http://pastebin.com/xvNAih3g <- I have downloaded the TS tar.gz and untarred it
[09:24] <baizon> vimes: just run ts3server_minimal_runscript.sh
[09:24] <vimes> thank you : ), I'll try that
[09:24] <vimes> (running without sudo now)
[09:24] <Guest12422> OerHerks I did i before and it said "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted."
[09:25] <baizon> vimes: important passwords to save http://www.sysadminslife.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Teamspeak3-Server-Installation.jpg
[09:25] <baizon> vimes: i recommend to read this https://www.vultr.com/docs/creating-a-teamspeak-3-server-on-ubuntu-14
[09:25] <NTQ> "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxx does not exist.". (initramfs) ls /dev/sd* shows nothing. Why are my harddrives not recognized? mdev failure?
[09:26] <Guest12422> So should I use GNU Parted?
[09:26] <Guest12422> ...
[09:27] <OerHeks> Guest12422, yes > sudo parted /dev/sda print
[09:29] <Guest12422> OerHerks, "Error: /dev/sda: unrecognised disk label"
[09:30] <OerHeks> Guest12422, sounds like a bad disk
[09:31] <dreamcat4> hi. i want a countdown-timer widget / utility for untity. that will run a cmd when time is up
[09:31] <Guest12422> ok, and then what?
[09:32] <Guest12422> should i leave my data deleted or what?
[09:33] <rory> dreamcat4: if you don't care about a visual display, you can do (e.g.:( sleep 60; firefox
[09:33] <rory> dreamcat4: which will run firefox after 60 seconds
[09:34] <Guest12422> um...
[09:35] <OerHeks> Guest12422, "Hard Disk Error (3F1)" , i say replace the hdd with a new one
[09:37] <Guest12422> so it can't be restored?
[09:37] <Ben64> you might be able to get some files back using photorec
[09:37] <dreamcat4> rory: yeah i know about using sleep. the thing is i want to be able to for example: add +5 minutes, -5minutes etc. to a running timer. and also know how much time is remaining
[09:38] <OerHeks> !find alarm-clock
[09:38] <OerHeks> dreamcat4 ^^
[09:38] <dreamcat4> thanks. i'll take a look
[09:39] <Guest12422> ok i'm trying to download photorec on my laptop
[09:41] <daftykins> Guest12422: hmm bad disk huh? are you having issues seeing it?
[09:41] <Guest12422> having issues seeing it how?
[09:42] <daftykins> ah no was a disk label message earlier
[09:42] <dreamcat4> OerHeks: thanks. 'alarm-clock-applet'. it works for my purpose
[09:42] <daftykins> Guest12422: have you confirmed this disks health state with SMART info yet?
[09:42] <OerHeks> dreamcat4, have fun
[09:42] <daftykins> Guest12422: if not, "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[09:46] <vroomac> need support
[09:47] <daftykins> vroomac: need a question asked before that's possible :)
[09:48] <vroomac> daftykins http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2291141
[09:49] <daftykins> vroomac: ensure you're booting the ubuntu media properly in EFI mode, the difference is explained...
[09:49] <daftykins> !efi | vroomac ...here
[09:51] <vroomac> k let me read it brb
[09:53] <daftykins> definitely odd the installer saw nothing on the disk
[09:57] <Guest12422> ok now somehow every time i try to go to mozilla it freezes
[09:57] <daftykins> Guest12422: this is inside an install on this bad disk? or a live session?
[09:57] <daftykins> run the command i mentioned
[09:57] <Guest12422> oh... it's inside a live session.
[09:58] <Guest12422> yes i did
[09:58] <daftykins> and can you paste the link it created here?
[09:58] <daftykins> you may already know it's bad, but i can tell you how bad :)
[09:59] <NTQ> boot-repair has collected data: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12117200/ But I'm still not able to boot up. /dev/sd* do not exist within (initramfs)
[09:59] <Guest12422> it says "failed to fetch http://ubuntu.com/...deb" or something. It's completely stuck so I couldn't go anywhere.
[09:59] <daftykins> Guest12422: ah so your live session has no internet connection
[09:59] <Guest12422> i'll have to restart again.
[09:59] <Guest12422> should i cool it down too?
[09:59] <Guest12422> well it didn't
[10:01] <daftykins> sometimes disks that've gotten too hot will work again for a brief period when cold, yeah
[10:01] <r2000> hallo,
[10:01] <fishcooker> how to know the package will be installed on the trust without installed first?
[10:01] <daftykins> "on the trust"
[10:02] <Guest12422> ok i guess we gotta wait until it cools down
[10:06] <OerHeks> There is a new kernel update, 3.19.0-26.28, i see it in the list, but "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" does not give it to me, i am still @ 3.19.0-20-generic  >> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2719-1/
[10:07] <Halelujah> Hi how to check what's the name of Dvd drive?
[10:07] <daftykins> OerHeks: missing linux-generic maybe?
[10:07] <daftykins> Halelujah: what do you mean 'name' ? /dev/blah or ?
[10:08] <Halelujah> daftykins: yeah
[10:08] <Halelujah> how to check
[10:08] <OerHeks> daftykins, awesome! i wonder why i didn't have it...
[10:09] <daftykins> OerHeks: i've seen some weird stuff remove it here and there, very puzzling :)
[10:09]  * OerHeks noted
[10:09] <NTQ> It's very annoying. Nothing does help.
[10:10] <daftykins> Halelujah: read "dmesg" or "ls -al /dev/c* "
[10:10] <daftykins> you'll see a symlink point to a physical device
[10:11] <NTQ> How can I scroll through dmesg? dmesg | more isn't working correctly withing initramfs
[10:12] <schlerp> dmesg | less
[10:12] <Nelson1> what does it mean when it says 'cannot send to channel'?
[10:12] <daftykins> likely you need to register to speak in that channel
[10:12] <daftykins> Nelson1: this is a topic for #freenode though and NOT ubuntu support.
[10:13] <NTQ> schlerp: less is not available in initramfs
[10:13] <schlerp> hmm
[10:13] <daftykins> NTQ: is it just coincidence or do you know that i wasn't telling you to do dmesg?
[10:14] <schlerp> use tail -n x /var/log/dmesg
[10:15] <schlerp> where x is how many lines.. although that wont work now i think about it
[10:16] <NTQ> daftykins: both
[10:16] <daftykins> ok good stuff
[10:16] <Halelujah> daftykins i found out using commanod "lslk" to be the est
[10:16] <Halelujah> daftykins i found out using commanod "lslk" to be the best
[10:16] <daftykins> lsblk?
[10:17] <Halelujah> yeah lsblk
[10:17] <daftykins> hmmk :P
[10:17] <Guest12422> i don't know why but every time i try to turn on mozilla it kept being stuck
[10:17] <cfdgdfg> !ops
[10:17] <Halelujah> is it safe to burn iso to DVD using dd?
[10:18] <daftykins> Halelujah: you can't afaik.
[10:18] <Halelujah> daftykins why?
[10:18] <daftykins> i don't expect it to work.
[10:18] <Guest12422> help i don't know why i can't even open mozilla
[10:19] <daftykins> Guest12422: the rest of the system might be hung up on trying to access that bad disk, so live sessions might not operate with it even connected.
[10:19] <Halelujah> daftykins what you recommend? I tried to burn iso to DVD using xfburn it damaged my dvd
[10:20] <daftykins> Halelujah: must you use DVD at all?
[10:20] <Halelujah> yes
[10:20] <Guest12422> daftykins so what should i do?
[10:20] <daftykins> it's 2015, flash drives are ace.
[10:20] <Halelujah> i want to keep DVD
[10:20] <Halelujah> flash drives are much more expensive than dvd :)
[10:20] <daftykins> Guest12422: get that system online and then run the command i had suggested
[10:21] <daftykins> Halelujah: yes but optical media is rubbish
[10:21] <daftykins> are we talking one or are you trying to deploy a fleet of 1,000 machines? :P
[10:21] <Halelujah> daftykins all material turns to rubbish
[10:22] <daftykins> Halelujah: this isn't a place for philsophy, it's fact.
[10:23] <gartral> hey all, I've run into a snag while looking through an old hdd of mine... I can't run "ecryptfs-mount-private" or moreover, it returns nothing, i'm on ubuntu 15.04
[10:23] <Halelujah> daftykins but i didnt start it :) i also said a fact
[10:24] <schlerp> are you just trying to burn an iso to disk?
[10:25] <daftykins> Halelujah: so you can try K3B if you're sure you must stay in the past, otherwise i'm sure there are plenty of optical media writing programs out there
[10:26] <schlerp> if you are running ubuntu you can just right click an iso and theres an option to burn it?
[10:27] <daftykins> that might well be a large assumption
[10:27] <Halelujah> daftykins i don't know why you have something against DVD's :)
[10:27] <schlerp> disk image writere is standard on ubuntu, i havent used it but its always how i imagined id burn an iso...
[10:28] <daftykins> because live sessions don't work well from them, often drives are faulty... slow... just all the usual sensible reasons.
[10:28] <schlerp> right click on the iso, open with other application... Disk Image Writer
[10:28] <daftykins> schlerp: right but you're assuming what this person is running
[10:28] <NTQ> schlerp: tail does not really help :(
[10:28] <schlerp> this is the ubuntu channel...
[10:28] <NTQ> head is not available. shit
[10:29] <spybull> Hello there
[10:29] <daftykins> schlerp: yep where people are often wanting to install for the first time :D
[10:29] <daftykins> !language | NTQ
[10:29] <cfdgdfg> !ops
[10:29] <daftykins> NTQ: i think you would be better off investigating from a live session, no?
[10:29] <schlerp> he wants a spare dvd
[10:29] <NTQ> daftykins: :D sorry
[10:29] <Halelujah> daftykins you can store on 10 DVD's like 10 OSe's and 1 flash drive cost like 20 dvd's. That's what's good about it!
[10:30] <daftykins> Halelujah: i'm not going to carry on this pointless discussion with you, knock yourself out :)
[10:30] <Halelujah> daftykins i didn't start it )
[10:30] <schlerp> take it to offtopic
[10:30] <schlerp> NTQ can you use sed?
[10:31] <iuli> anyone?
[10:31] <NTQ> daftykins: I already tried lots of different things from a live session to get my Lubuntu start again. Reinstall kernels, update-initramfs, update-grub, reinstall grub, chrooted apt-get (dist-)upgrade etc
[10:31] <daftykins> iuli: anyone what?
[10:31] <iuli> ok
[10:31] <iuli> hi
[10:31] <daftykins> you just joined...
[10:31] <Halelujah> daftykiins im burning an iso to DVD right now :)
[10:31] <NTQ> schlerp: grep and sed are available
[10:31] <daftykins> Halelujah: ok, no need to give me step by step updates thanks
[10:31] <NTQ> schlerp: What keywords could I grep?
[10:31] <schlerp> initramfs should be a busybox terminal... and im pretty sure most versions of busybox ive used had sed?
[10:32] <Halelujah> I'm going to try LXLE os... since on Lubuntu i can't fix my sound problem and noone has any idea why my sound is not working on Lubuntu
[10:32] <Ben64> Halelujah: ok well lxle isn't supported here, have fun
[10:32] <NTQ> schlerp: Yes, it's busybox v1.21.1
[10:32] <schlerp> try ERR or err with grep
[10:32] <Guest12422> ok it's currently 7%
[10:32] <Halelujah> Ben64 i know but Ubuntu couldn't help me to fix my sound problem
[10:33] <schlerp> NTQ: your dmesg
[10:33] <Halelujah> Pretty much ignoring me
[10:33] <daftykins> aww sad face
[10:33] <Ben64> Halelujah: well to be fair you didn't try very hard. you came in here randomly asking "how to fix sound?" with no details whatsoever
[10:33] <daftykins> Guest12422: 7% of what?
[10:33] <fishcooker> how to know the package will be installed on the *trusty without installed first, daftykins?
[10:33] <Guest12422> erm "7% [1 postfix 115 kB/1,085 kB 11%]
[10:33] <daftykins> fishcooker: no you still don't make any sense
[10:33] <Halelujah> Ben64 oh yes i did, i gave so much details..  I can't run "ecryptfs-mount-private" or moreover, it returns nothing, i'm on ubuntu 15.04
[10:35] <Halelujah> I think most of people here don't understand much about Ubuntu :D
[10:35] <Ben64> Halelujah: you don't have to stay here
[10:35] <vimes> "don't understand much about Ubuntu"
[10:35] <Halelujah> Ben64 why not?
[10:35] <NTQ> schlerp: There is one error: ioapic: probe of 0000:00:00.5 failed with error -22
[10:36] <cfdgdfg> sup bro?
[10:36] <cfdgdfg> need an op
[10:36] <Ben64> Halelujah: you're no longer seeking ubuntu support, the commentary is not needed
[10:36] <vimes> I don't understand much about ubuntu, which is why I am here.
[10:36] <cfdgdfg> been calling for ages
[10:36] <Guest12422> daftykins now it said "Err http://archive.ubuntu/ trusty/main postfix amd64 2.11.0-1 connection failed [IP:<IP_ADDRESS> 80]"
[10:36] <Halelujah> Ben64 i've been seeking ubuntu support for 3 days
[10:36] <Guest12422>  "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main postfix amd64 2.11.0-1 connection failed [IP:<IP_ADDRESS> 80]"
[10:36] <Ben64> Halelujah: and now you're installing lxle, which isn't ubuntu
[10:36] <cfdgdfg> Halelujah: here’s your support - what’s the issue?
[10:36] <schlerp> can we try stay on topic guys, go to off topic for conversations not support related
[10:36] <Halelujah> Ben64 im still seeking
[10:36] <cfdgdfg> DIfferent people on here all the time
[10:36] <daftykins> Guest12422: try a "sudo apt-get update" then repeat my earlier command
[10:36] <Halelujah> cfdgdfg: hi
[10:37] <daftykins> !who | schlerp
[10:37] <Halelujah> cfdgdfg: do you understand something about sound?
[10:37] <cfdgdfg> Halelujah: Yes I do
[10:37] <Guest12422> daftykins: But it's still trying to connect to archive.ubuntu.com
[10:37] <Guest12422> i guess i shall wait
[10:38] <daftykins> Guest12422: no hit ctrl+c
[10:38] <Halelujah> cfdgdfg: here's the problem, installing fresh Lubuntu i had no sound. I purged and reinstalled alsa and my sound came back after restart. But after next restart sound was gone. You have any idea? Sound works on other distros by the way!
[10:38] <Ben64> Halelujah: not the way to get support ----> http://sprunge.us/MPaK
[10:38] <Halelujah> Ben64 i was ignored
[10:38] <daftykins> no, now you're ignored.
[10:39] <Ben64> you asked the most vague questions ever with no details
[10:39] <NTQ> schlerp: any suggestions?
[10:39] <cfdgdfg> Halelujah: I’m listening - ignore the haters, let’s talk about your sound issue
[10:39] <Halelujah> Bend64 again i was ignored
[10:39] <schlerp> NTQ: looking into it
[10:39] <Halelujah> Ben64 i gave more details to people who tried to help
[10:39] <Ben64> because nobody wanted to fight with you to get details
[10:39] <iuli> opinions 'bout Voyager Linux?
[10:39] <daftykins> iuli: only ubuntu is on topic here, ask in #linux
[10:39] <SCHAAP137> no, haven't used it yet
[10:40] <Halelujah> Ben64 ok you are only here to argue not helping me
[10:40] <Halelujah> cfdgdfg: thats my problem
[10:40] <Ben64> Halelujah: you've still yet to give details
[10:40] <SCHAAP137> iuli: or you could try #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:40] <Halelujah> You want alsa-info.sh Ben64?
[10:40] <Halelujah> what exactly do you need?
[10:40] <popey> Halelujah: what type of computer is it?
[10:41] <schlerp> NTQ: how is your system set out, eg, how many ahrddrives and what partitions/mount points?
[10:41] <Halelujah> popey: HP compaq 6715s. im using snd-hda-intel driver
[10:41] <cfdgdfg> Halelujah:  sudo apt-get install FUCK-YOU    !!!!!!!!!!!                        @@@@@@Halelujah:  sudo apt-get install FUCK-YOU    !!!!!!!!!!!                        @@@@@@Halelujah:  sudo apt-get install FUCK-YOU    !!!!!!!!!!!                        @@@@@@Halelujah:  sudo apt-get install FUCK-YOU    !!!!!!!!!!!                        @@@@@@Halelujah:  sudo apt-get install FUCK-YOU    !!!!!!!!!!!
[10:41] <Halelujah> AD1981 codec
[10:41] <cfdgdfg> @@@@@@Halelujah:  sudo apt-get install FUCK-YOU    !!!!!!!!!!!                        @@@@@@
[10:41] <cfdgdfg> bye
[10:42] <Halelujah> Ok
[10:42] <Halelujah> God bless you!
[10:42] <NTQ> schlerp: At the moment there is only one SSD attached with one ext4 root partition. BIOS recognized it correctly, grub is started.
[10:42] <NTQ> schlerp: oh, and ony IDE DVD drive
[10:43] <NTQ> *one
[10:43] <NTQ> Maybe I should try something like noapic?
[10:43] <schlerp> NTQ: ok, so you had a working ubunt install? or is this happening at first boot?
[10:44] <NTQ> schlerp: This server was working a few weeks without restart. In this time there were several kernel updates, but I didn't restart until yesterday.
[10:44] <Guest12422> !tab
[10:44] <Guest12422> oh ok
[10:44] <schlerp> ok, can you mount your system with initramfs?
[10:45] <NTQ> schlerp: No. There is no /dev/sda oder similar. Also there is no /dev/disk/by-uuid directory
[10:45] <schlerp> whats the output from ls /dev | grep sd
[10:45] <schlerp> NTQ: sorry i see the or similar now
[10:45] <NTQ> empty
[10:46] <schlerp> NTQ: i think booting to a live usb would be a good idea, that way we can have a better look around
[10:47] <NTQ> no problem. Give me 1-2 minutes
[10:48] <schlerp> NTQ: you are using stock repo's? like no repos that give you custom kernels?
[10:49] <Guest12422> I was also asking in launchpad and they said "What file system was the disk using initially?" what does it mean?
[10:49] <NTQ> schlerp: Stock Repos from Lubuntu 14.04
[10:50] <daftykins> Guest12422: whether it was NTFS (Windows) or EXT4 (common Linux file system) etc. etc.
[10:51] <schlerp> NTG: ok, good! and are you using standard ext4 (no lvm)
[10:51] <NTQ> schlerp: live session is running.
[10:51] <daftykins> schlerp: most answers to your questions could be had from the very first pastebin shared
[10:51] <NTQ> schlerp: Before it was LVM. Now I copied it to a fresh ssd without lvm
[10:51] <schlerp> i only joined the channel recently, appologies
[10:51] <daftykins> schlerp: < NTQ> boot-repair has collected data: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12117200/
[10:52] <NTQ> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12117200/
[10:52] <NTQ> oh :)
[10:52] <schlerp> thankyou
[10:52] <NTQ> During boot-repair there were two hard drives. The old one with LVM and the new one.
[10:53] <daftykins> hmm that probably didn't help if you ran it then
[10:53] <NTQ> Should I ran it again?
[10:53] <schlerp> can you open disks and check if its there? (or gparted? disks just makes it easy to check the "smart" status of your disk)
[10:53] <NTQ> of course
[10:54] <schlerp> NTQ: sorry i mean check if the hdd is listed
[10:54] <NTQ> schlerp: SMART status is good. Device is listed.
[10:55] <albert88nt> Hy all. I`ve got 2 HDD: 320 gb & 500 Gb, 2 Gb RAM. Wich are the best partition to make for ubuntu?
[10:55] <NTQ> And I can mount it to /mnt for example
[10:55] <albert88nt> is it ok ext4 / =25 GB, swap=4 Gb and the rest for /home on the 32Gb hdd, and the second 500GB HDD ext4?
[10:55] <Guest12422> daftykins I tried apt-get install smartmon tools and now it's stuck on Get:2 with 12%
[10:55] <schlerp> NTW: awesome! have you tried chrooting into the system and running update initramfs
[10:55] <daftykins> Guest12422: something must be up with your connection, or that systems general stability. what actually led to this drive being discovered as bad?
[10:55] <schlerp> NTQ: if not i can guide you through
[10:55] <NTQ> yes, I did this 5 times already
[10:56] <NTQ> But I can do it again ;)
[10:56] <daftykins> albert88nt: make the second disk the /home entirely
[10:56] <Guest12422> nah i think it's the connection. I usually can't download that fast.
[10:56] <Guest12422> how about the SMART status?
[10:56] <ubuntu-mate> hi all
[10:56] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[10:56] <gartral> hey all, I've run into a snag while looking through an old hdd of mine... I can't run "ecryptfs-mount-private" or moreover, it returns nothing, i'm on ubuntu 15.04
[10:56] <daftykins> Guest12422: you need those programs installed to check it.
[10:57] <Guest12422> OK I guess I can start again
[10:57] <albert88nt> @daftykins thank you. Are ok the rest of partition wich i`m trying to do?
[10:57] <NTQ> schlerp: Do I have to bind /dev /proc /run and /sys to the chroot environment?
[10:57] <schlerp> NTQ: and you definately dont have a seperate boot partition?
[10:57] <HewloThere> Hi. I'm simply curious about this, does Ubuntu get sponsored free bandwidth for OS downloads and repo's, etc?
[10:58] <daftykins> albert88nt: yep, depends on how much software you use for the 25GB / though
[10:58] <NTQ> schlerp: no. Not on this new ssd
[10:58] <popey> HewloThere: Yes. Canonical pays for datacentre hosting, and there are volunteer mirrors also
[10:58] <schlerp> NTQ: yes, and cp /etc/resolv.conf to /mnt/etc/resolv.conf
[10:58] <Guest12422> aaand it's stuck to 0%
[10:58] <albert88nt> @daftykins usual software, no video or photo editing
[10:58] <HewloThere> Ohh, okay. :)
[10:59] <Guest12422> is it possible for me to install it on the desktop and insert the file via flashdisk?
[10:59] <schlerp> if the live system has internet, we can apt0get update & upgrade too
[10:59] <NTQ> schlerp: do you mean withing chroot?
[10:59] <daftykins> Guest12422: you could grab the .deb files yes
[11:00] <Guest12422> daftykins OK how do I do that?
[11:00] <schlerp> nah from outside chroot, it will copy in your resolve file which will let youre chroot talk to the internet for running apt-get update etc
[11:00] <daftykins> Guest12422: install "pastebinit" and "smartmontools" on your system then grab the .deb packages from /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:00] <NTQ> I've already copied resolv.conf to the chroot
[11:00] <schlerp> ok cool, so do an apt-get update and upgrade
[11:02] <schlerp> NTQ: then an update-initramfs -k all
[11:02] <Guest12422> daftykins what's the html?
[11:02] <projekt> Hi
[11:02] <daftykins> Guest12422: what html?
[11:02] <NTQ> only linux-libc-dev can be upgraded
[11:02] <daftykins> Guest12422: you're extremely vague.
[11:02] <daftykins> albert88nt: i'm sure it'll be fine
[11:03] <schlerp> NTQ: being a dev package thats probably not gonna help
[11:03] <albert88nt> @daftykins thank you and have a nice day
[11:04] <mnms_> Im looking for a tool to make system snapshot. Can you give me some advice ?
[11:04] <daftykins> clonezilla perhaps could image up the whole machine
[11:04] <Guest12422> daftykins whoops i forgot to tell you that my desktop is running windows 8
[11:04] <daftykins> Guest12422: oh. that makes a bit more sense :P
[11:05] <KrisDouglas> heh
[11:05] <daftykins> Guest12422: so armed with the version of ubuntu that your live session is booting, use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to find and download the packages
[11:05] <daftykins> sounds like that system is just hosed though
[11:05] <daftykins> personally i'd disconnect the hard disk from it and see if the live session behaves normally
[11:05] <Guest12422> daftykins so i still use my laptop instead of my desktop?
[11:06] <daftykins> you have multiple choices
[11:06] <daftykins> try any you feel like
[11:06] <NTQ> schlerp: update-initramfs -c -k all?
[11:07] <schlerp> NTQ yeah
[11:08] <NTQ> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0.{41,45,62}-generic
[11:08] <NTQ> schlerp: No errors
[11:08] <schlerp> NTQ: ok, and you've already done this a few times ay?
[11:09] <gartral> hey all, I've run into a snag while looking through an old hdd of mine... I can't run "ecryptfs-mount-private" or moreover, it returns nothing, i'm on ubuntu 15.04
[11:11] <schlerp> NTQ: try reboot now and hold shift when your computer starts up to catch the grub menu
[11:11] <NTQ> schlerp: I did this a few times. But not after boot-repair
[11:11] <NTQ> schlerp: reboot now
[11:11] <gartral> NTQ: some machiones you need to rapidly hit Shift
[11:12] <schlerp> actually if you havent rebooted yet you could ry dpkg --reconfigure grub2 aswell
[11:12] <NTQ> schlerp: I'm in grub
[11:12] <schlerp> try boot your oldest kernel
[11:13] <schlerp> the one it installed with if its still there
[11:13] <NTQ> schlerp: That kernel is no more there
[11:13] <NTQ> It was 3.16.0-30. Now the oldest is 3.16.0-41
[11:13] <schlerp> NTQ: i guess try the oldest on first and see if it still drops to initramfs
[11:13] <NTQ> schlerp: recovery mode or normal?
[11:14] <schlerp> recovery
[11:14] <Guest12422> daftykins wait turns out there's "postfix configuration" on my laptop
[11:14] <schlerp> NTQ: im not really sure it matters, if its still broken we will prbably end up at an initramfs anyway :P
[11:14] <NTQ> "Switched to clocksource tsc" and waiting...
[11:15] <NTQ> schlerp: "random: lvm urandom read with 2 bits of entropy available"
[11:15] <Guest12422> daftykins it says "Please select the mail server configuration type that best meets your needs"
[11:15] <NTQ> "GAve up waiting for root device
[11:15] <daftykins> Guest12422: weird. local delivery should be fine if listed
[11:15] <NTQ> schlerp: (initramfs) _ ;)
[11:16] <Guest12422> daftykins: what do you mean?
[11:16] <NTQ> schlerp: No /dev/sd* available
[11:17] <daftykins> Guest12422: well does it have choices or not? or must i guess? i'll buy a vowel to start with...
[11:18] <schlerp> NTQ: ok, either boot back into live so we can read dmesg or use sed -n "start,Stop" /file
[11:18] <schlerp> NTQ: start and stop are line numbers and /file should be /var/log/dmesg
[11:19] <NTQ> schlerp: in initramfs there is no /var/log/dmesg. But i can pipe dmesg through sed
[11:19] <Guest12422_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12117552/
[11:20] <schlerp> very good point haha, yeah pipe it in
[11:20] <daftykins> Guest12422_: hit no config then
[11:20] <daftykins> Guest12422_: this is all a live session so really none of this matters
[11:20] <daftykins> and local delivery WAS listed =|
[11:21] <NTQ> schlerp: It's not working. it seems that this 'sed' is an very small version of the 'sed'
[11:21] <schlerp> NTQ: have you seen this question? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1576140
[11:21] <schlerp> damn, yeah i hadnt piped to sed in busybox (i normally use it in android, not initramfs)
[11:22] <Guest12422_> daftykins: it's not clickable unfortunately :/
[11:22] <NTQ> there is also no screen :(
[11:22] <NTQ> schlerp: But we can still grep through dmesg ^^
[11:23] <daftykins> Guest12422_: well pick something
[11:23] <schlerp> NTQ: yeah haha
[11:24] <Guest12422_> daftykins I can't click anything
[11:24] <Guest12422_> daftykins ok nvm
[11:26] <daftykins> yeah, not a mouse interface ;)
[11:26] <Guest12422_> daftykins oh man i feel so embarrassed :/
[11:26] <schlerp> NTQ can you put a usb in and pipe dmesg to that then boot back to the live system and read it there?
[11:29] <NTQ> schlerp: interesting idea
[11:29] <Guest12422_> daftykins OK here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12117589/
[11:29] <schlerp> NTQ: may be a little less painful, im pertty sure we arent going to get any firsther in initramfs because it cant even see the drive
[11:30] <schlerp> *further
[11:30] <daftykins> Guest12422_: i dreamed this day would come!
[11:30] <Guest12422_> daftykins So what do you think?
[11:30] <daftykins> Guest12422_: oh wow that disk is totally trashed
[11:30] <daftykins> 7,248 reallocated sectors... 1631 reallocated event count, 176 pending
[11:30] <daftykins> :S
[11:30] <schlerp> yeah shes not looking too flash, but it reckons it "passed" lol
[11:31] <Guest12422_> daftykins can you explain the details? like what caused it and such?
[11:31] <daftykins> not really no, possibly the heads touched the platter surface and started scraping it up
[11:31] <robur888d> hi
[11:31] <Guest12422_> daftykins oh crap now what
[11:32] <daftykins> basically if you want any data from it, it's probably already too late.
[11:32] <schlerp> it also says its over heated
[11:32] <Guest12422_> daftykins can I still use photorec?
[11:32] <daftykins> nope if you care for anything on that, take itto a professional data recovery company now
[11:32] <daftykins> and i mean now, turn it off and don't try to use it again
[11:32] <robur888d> ok
[11:33] <Guest12422> daftykins well i guess i'd better buy a hard disk tomorrow to backup future data, right?
[11:34] <NTQ> schlerp: I got some messages from dmesg as I put the usb stick in. Things like "New USB device found", "Product", "Manufacturer", "SerialNumber". But no new devices
[11:34] <daftykins> well you'll need a new one to put in that system to keep using it, then you can take the current one to a recovery company
[11:34] <daftykins> might be a good time to check out SSDs :)
[11:35] <Guest12422> SSDs?
[11:35] <gartral> Guest12422: Solid State Drives
[11:35] <gartral> Guest12422: also, always back up to DVDs...
[11:36] <daftykins> DVD? oh dear Tux no
[11:36] <daftykins> Guest12422: nevermind, ##hardware can help you there ;)
[11:36] <gartral> daftykins: why not? dvds don't crash
[11:36] <daftykins> lol.
[11:36] <Guest12422> I can just use hard disks?
[11:37] <daftykins> you might want to look into retention of optical media
[11:37] <daftykins> the above channel can help you pick a new one
[11:38] <Guest12422> daftykins too bad they don't provide ones available in Indonesian stores... i suppose?
[11:38] <daftykins> wat
[11:38] <gartral> hey all, I've run into a snag while looking through an old hdd of mine... I can't run "ecryptfs-mount-private" or moreover, it returns nothing, i'm on ubuntu 15.04
[11:38] <NTQ> schlerp: how could I mount the usb stick? :D
[11:38] <daftykins> i don't quite follow you on what relevance Indonesian stores might have? :)
[11:39] <schlerp> ls /dev | grep sd
[11:39] <schlerp> to find the usb drives letter
[11:39] <NTQ> schlerp: it's empty
[11:39] <NTQ> maybe a mdev problem?
[11:39] <Guest12422> yeah apparently indonesians sell different products than ones usually promoted on english sites so yeah
[11:40] <daftykins> err, ok
[11:40] <Victor111> i need mono 3.12 on my ubuntu server. But the repo ships 3.2.8
[11:40] <Victor111> anyone knows where i can find it?
[11:41] <daftykins> you'd have to look for a PPA which is unsupported here
[11:41] <Victor111> i understand that it is unsupported ofc since its not marked stable
[11:41] <daftykins> no, PPAs aren't
[11:42] <sogeking99> Anyone here familiar with virt-manager with QEMU? I am having an issue where my gues OS is not running at full resolution. Even fullscreen it is boxed at 4:3.
[11:43] <NTQ> schlerp? :(
[11:44] <cfhowlett> !ppa | Victor111
[11:44] <Victor111> yeah already found it, needed mono-complete instead of runtime :)
[11:51] <hidden> hello, i'm looking for a simple and easy to use tool to transfer music to my iphone for ubuntu
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !ipod | hidden
[11:51] <bazhang> !iphone
[11:51] <daftykins> hidden: if you're on a new iOS version you're probably out of luck.
[11:52] <hidden> daftykins ah man
[11:52] <hidden> this sucks big time
[11:53] <cfhowlett> hidden, apple is not known for peaceful co-existence with other OS's ...
[11:53] <hidden> 6.4
[11:53] <hidden> 8.4
[11:53] <hidden> is my ios
[11:53] <cfhowlett> hidden, read the !ipod wiki and try.
[11:54] <hidden> i read it plenty of times
[11:54] <hidden> feels like i have add looking at it
[11:55] <daftykins> hidden: game over then i guess
[11:56] <hidden> i don't want to use stupid windows but oh well
[11:56]  * hidden looks through old hd's gathering dust
[11:56] <rory> hidden: do I know you from Snoonet?
[11:57] <hidden> rory probably not, i don't use this nick many other places
[11:57] <NTQ> daftykins: Maybe you can assist me in figuring out that problem?
[11:58] <hidden> anyways i'm out thanks alot everyone
[11:58] <hidden> need to enjoy my holidays
[11:58] <hidden> byee
[12:00] <elvin> hi
[12:01] <daftykins> NTQ: nah i'd have reinstalled hours ago
[12:01] <daftykins> life is too short ;)
[12:02] <NTQ> daftykins: Yeah, but all these configurations on the system has to be copied and verified. IPSec, OpenVPN, Unison, Samba Share, ...
[12:02] <daftykins> easy.
[12:02] <NTQ> routes, network/interfaces
[12:02] <NTQ> hm
[12:03] <NTQ> Also I want to know how this could happen... I don't want to have the same problem after the next reboot.
[12:04] <elvin_> quit
[12:04] <NTQ> daftykins: At the moment I think the problem is udev or mdev.
[12:05] <daftykins> not much point telling me i'm afraid.
[12:05] <NTQ> And from where was initramfs started if there is only one ssd with one partition?
[12:08] <stan_> ok.
[12:10] <electrologic> e
[12:10] <electrologic> i have a problem
[12:10] <daftykins> !details
[12:13] <cfhowlett> so no details?  I guess Ms. Cleo came back from her coffee break and solved it for you, right?
[12:32] <Kartagis> currently, I have an nvidia card and nouveau is loaded. whenever I get a notification, it looks like http://i.imgur.com/N93gdnH.png. do I need to install nvidia drivers?
[12:32] <daftykins> Kartagis: which card?
[12:33] <Kartagis> daftykins: nvidia 8xxx something
[12:33] <Bern_> Hello. Im trying to access my mac using vnc client Remmina. It seems to connect fine, password correct and a big screen appears and quickly disappears again(so fast I can't identify it.) Then nothing else happens. Any idea of what may be wrong?
[12:33] <Kartagis> daftykins: 8400
[12:33] <daftykins> oh wow, quite old school then
[12:34] <daftykins> i don't think it'd change much but it wouldn't hurt to try nvidia-304 perhaps
[12:34] <daftykins> Bern_: run it in the terminal so you can see what the error is
[12:36] <Kartagis> daftykins: what is the difference between 304 and 340? both are listed here
[12:36] <lacrymology> an update a few days back has rendered my box unusable, it will fail some drivers failing and won't boot. The furthest I got to was a desktop message saying something like there was problems, but I didn't have any input devices working.
[12:36] <lacrymology> I'm in on a livecd now, can someone help me fix this?
[12:36] <NTQ> daftykins: Do you think I could boot again with SuperGrubDisk?
[12:36] <daftykins> Kartagis: a bigger number = newer
[12:37] <Kartagis> okay
[12:37] <daftykins> NTQ: if i had any input of any use for your situation i'd be helping
[12:38] <Bern_> daftykins not really sure how to do so.
[12:39] <hal9000> i just updated the kernel through the Update Manager, now I get nothing but a cursor when booting unless i choose the *.25 kernel
[12:39] <daftykins> Bern_: open the terminal app, run remmina by typing its' name... then repeat the test connect, messages should be flooding the terminal window
[12:39] <daftykins> or maybe remmina even has a log window
[12:39] <hal9000> do i have to reinstall the driver for the new kernel?
[12:40] <Bern_> daftykins , ah so it's enough to just launch the application to get logs? I thought I had to do the connection from terminal aswell.
[12:40] <Jeeves_Moss> ok, I'm having a brain fart here.  I just added a line to fstab, and I can't seem to get it to mount on boot.  so far, I've got "//<IP_ADDRESS>/ownCloud  /media/ownCloud  cifs  username=<User>,passwd='<my password>',iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm  0  0'
[12:41] <Bern_> seems no flooding of messages are appearing.
[12:42] <daftykins> Jeeves_Moss: it's not passwd, it's password=
[12:42] <Jeeves_Moss> daftykins, I've tired both
[12:43] <daftykins> Jeeves_Moss: but "dmesg | tail" on a mount test would tell you what's wrong
[12:43] <Jeeves_Moss> daftykins, I can mount it manually
[12:43] <ioria> Bern_   seems you have to 'Set Color depth to High color (15 bit) or better, otherwise connection will fail'  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleRemoteDesktop    (i don't have a Mac :( )
[12:43] <daftykins> that doesn't prove anything
[12:44] <Jeeves_Moss> daftykins, how do I tail a fstab mount?
[12:44] <BrazenBraden> im running ubuntu 14.04. no external gfx card atm as it fried so running off onboard HD5000. when I fullscreen any web video (flash / html5) all my 4 cores almost hit 100% usage. fine with VLC and other media players. how do I fix this?
[12:44] <Bern_> ioria thanks! That got it sorted.
[12:44] <ioria> good
[12:45] <daftykins> Jeeves_Moss: test it with "sudo mount -a" then "dmesg | tail" to see what it fails on
[12:45] <daftykins> Jeeves_Moss: oh and it shouldn't be "0 0" but more like "0 2"
[12:46] <MoPac> Hello. During an automatic GUI update, I've gotten a window asking to choose 0 or more drives/partitions to install/reinstall grub-pc. My system is dual-boot/multiboot, and it's all EFI, so I'm not sue if I should do anything here or not
[12:46] <Jeeves_Moss> daftykins, thanks.  one sec
[12:47] <MoPac> It gives me a choice of the main sda drive, the partition of it that mounts at /boot, or the crypt volume...but I'm not sure if, with EFI, I should be asking it to install grub-pc at all
[12:47] <Jeeves_Moss> daftykins, thanks.  I figured it out.  I had escaped the password because it has a ! in it
[12:48] <daftykins> Jeeves_Moss: ah. the conventional approach is to declare a credentials file, stored in /root/.smbpass and set that to 400 permissions
[12:49] <Jeeves_Moss> daftykins, yes, that's next on my list.  this box only has admin access anyways.
[12:55] <andywojo> ,
[13:01] <boodllebat> i want to use android mobile as web cam
[13:05] <yinee> hi
[13:05] <yinee> Chinese
[13:06] <daftykins> !cn
[13:08] <yinee> hey i could not log in telegram
[13:08] <yinee> I'm mainland
[13:08] <yinee> in mainland
[13:17] <HanksTs> help
[13:17] <daftykins> ask a question, HanksTs
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !help | HanksTs
[13:17] <ruind> anyone know how I can determine which ftp client I am using at the command line?
[13:18] <daftykins> which ftp?
[13:18] <ruind> daftykins, thats what Im asking
[13:21] <Jeeves_Moss> am I missing something when it comes to a fstab mount that when I try to change the premissions on a remote windows share, I get "premission denied"
[13:22] <daftykins> ruind: i typed it and i was thinking, is ruind going to understand that i mean that as a command? guess not :D "which ftp"
[13:24] <ruind> /usr/bin/ftp
[13:24] <ruind> lol
[13:24] <ruind> daftykins,
[13:24] <daftykins> so ftp --version ?
[13:25] <ruind> daftykins, tried all that no joy
[13:25] <ruind> -version
[13:25] <ruind> -v
[13:25] <ruind> etc
[13:25] <cfhowlett> ruind, dpkg -l ftp
[13:26] <cfhowlett> or apt-cache policy ftp
[13:28] <zetheroo> I am having difficulty joining Ubuntu to a Windows domain .
[13:28] <cfhowlett> !samba | zetheroo
[13:28] <ruind> yeah, it just says 0.17-28
[13:29] <ruind> i mean... there are a billion ftp clients out there with different verion numbers
[13:29] <ruind> which client is it
[13:29] <Pici> ruind: update-alternatives --list ftp
[13:30] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: according to the docs (https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-ad-integration.html) the first step is to "join an AD domain" using "Likewise-open", but it seems PBIS is now the thing to use.
[13:31] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, I've never  - samba'd.  I would think the #ubunut-server folk do all the time, though.
[13:31] <zombiefox> I would use either, I'd use sssd
[13:31] <zetheroo> ok
[13:31] <zombiefox> it's a lot less pain than winbind and the likes
[13:31] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: will ask them then
[13:31] <ruind> Pici, bingo!  netkit-ft
[13:34] <zombiefox> zetheroo: if they can't help, have a look at https://foss.biel-bienne.ch/blog/create-respin-with-uck.html   (the AD integration part)
[13:35] <zetheroo>  zombiefox: ok, thanks. Odd thing is that there are so many how-to's online with how this 'should' work ... :P
[13:36] <zombiefox> zetheroo: the one I linked is in front of me and works
[13:36] <zombiefox> my box is in our AD and I am logged in with my AD user, so I'd say it works :p
[13:36] <zetheroo>  zombiefox: that's great
[13:37] <zetheroo> and you just had to do the "Preparing Active Directory integration" part?
[13:37] <zombiefox> -ish, you have to configure mit-krb5 and sssd, neither is terribly hard
[13:38] <zombiefox> then you take the machine into ad with the command linked in the kinit article listed at the bottom -> done
[13:38] <zombiefox> s/kinit/msktutil/
[13:38] <zetheroo> hmm ... well when we are talking a handful of machines ... no ... but 20 - 40 systems? :)
[13:38] <zombiefox> but in general it's:  1) install sssd and mit-krb5  2) configure both  3) take machine into AD and create keytab 4) done, log in via AD account
[13:39] <zombiefox> so? I assume for a setup like that you have something like salt, ansible or puppet
[13:39] <zombiefox> which means that all of this can be fully automated. If you don't: you probably want to look into that first
[13:40] <zetheroo>  zombiefox: well according to what I was reading there was this straightforward way of adding an Ubuntu systems to AD domain ... so I really want to see if that's a dead end before launching into all this other stuff
[13:40] <zombiefox> I'd say that's rather straightforward, at least about as straightforward as winbind (samba) is. But feel free to try both :)
[13:41] <zetheroo> I am speaking of PBIS
[13:41] <zetheroo> ;)
[13:42] <zombiefox> that looks like a third party, non supported, non open solution
[13:42] <zombiefox> feel free to try it *shrug*
[13:43] <zetheroo> it's in the Ubuntu Server Guide https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-ad-integration.html
[13:43] <zetheroo> the link directs right to it
[13:44] <zetheroo> that's what made me think it was the tried-and-proven way to do it
[13:45] <Haris> hello all
[13:45] <Haris> where's the crontab log ? its not in /var/log ?
[13:47] <Pici> Haris: execution of cron tasks is logged in /var/log/syslog
[14:04] <ubuntu-mate> ola
[14:05] <ubuntu-mate> alguem brasil
[14:05] <daftykins> !br
[14:05] <ubuntu-mate> estou testando a distro
[14:07] <ubuntu-mate> estou de saida vou  instala ela aqui gostei dela muito boa e rapida
[14:07] <cfhowlett> !english | ubuntu-mate,
[14:11] <melody> Hi, come and try our new chat rooms.... www.greekchat.eu
[14:11] <daftykins> melody: no, don't link again
[14:11] <daftykins> !spam
[14:12] <cfhowlett> spam and run ...
[14:12] <phix> Mornin'
[14:20] <segaboy_> test
[14:20] <anonymous_> test
[14:21] <daftykins> !test
[14:23] <JesusSaves> hi
[14:24] <andy__> I am having trouble printing on an Epson Artisan 710 printer.
[14:24] <andy__> It prints one document, but on the second, it says that the printer is disconnected.
[14:27] <phix> andy__: that's nice
[14:27] <phix> what does epson say about it?
[14:27] <phix> as they made the printer
[14:28] <phix> ubuntu didn't make it
[14:28] <cfhowlett> !cups | andy__
[14:28] <andy__> !thanks
[14:29] <andy__> !thanks | cfhowlett
[14:29] <cfhowlett> happy2help! andy__
[14:29] <slaffe> What do I need to do to be able to show the files/folders when browsing to my public_html as a user?
[14:29] <slaffe> www-root folder can be indexed, but not the private user dir
[14:30] <slaffe> will just show as blank page
[14:30] <rajput> helo
[14:31] <aldo> hello
[14:31] <rajput> what you do !
[14:32] <slaffe> Do I need to change something in apache.conf to be able to browse my user-web public_html? Now it just shows a blank page
[14:32] <daftykins> slaffe: ensure all site definitions don't conflict
[14:32] <slaffe> daftykins where do I do this?
[14:32] <kvgeorge1> Hello.  There is something majorly wrong with the current 14.04 patches.  After the latest software update, when I watch anything fullscreen, coming out of fullscreen locks my desktop - no mouse, no screen updates, no keyboard.  The only way to regain control is to forcably poweroff the machine (or I guess I could use another machine and SSH in, but still)
[14:33] <daftykins> slaffe: /etc/apache2/sites-available
[14:33] <daftykins> you know, apache configuration 101 :)
[14:33] <nrdb> hi I am trying to setup a external ssh into my machine (only RSA auth.) I think I have it right... I have setup the routers port forwarding etc ... I tried testing with the routers external IP address, but this is coming back with the error "Connection refused" ... the auth.log does not show any attempt for authentication! ... does anyone know what is wrong?
[14:33] <slaffe> I got no config there saying how my private public_html should show
[14:33] <slaffe> got plenty other configs there though
[14:33] <almark> apache.conf is hardly used on ubuntu
[14:34] <slaffe> my www.hostname.se/ this shows the directories and all the files, but not the www.hostname.se~/slaffe/
[14:34] <slaffe> erm
[14:34] <slaffe> .se/~slaffe/
[14:35] <daftykins> you need to add it to children then
[14:35] <soulja> hi
[14:35] <phix> slaffe: you a sweede?
[14:36] <almark> you've got to enable userdir slaffe
[14:36] <slaffe> i've enabled user dir, I can browse to for instance .se/~slaffe/whateverfile.jpg
[14:36] <mhnmcgk> I am trying to install bspwm on ubuntu. I setup .desktop file on /.xsessions with exec=bspwm. Still, lightdm doesn't go past the login screen
[14:37] <phix> mhnmcgk: what is bspwm?
[14:37] <mhnmcgk> phix: it's a window manager.
[14:37] <phix> mhnmcgk: never heard of it, how does it compare with xfce / gnome?
[14:37] <guest-UaxnAj> hi
[14:37] <phix> hi
[14:38] <kvgeorge1> There is something majorly wrong with the current 14.04 patches.  After the latest software update, when I watch anything fullscreen, coming out of fullscreen locks my desktop - no mouse, no screen updates, no keyboard.  The only way to regain control is to forcably poweroff the machine (or I guess I could use another machine and SSH in, but still)
[14:38] <mhnmcgk> phix: you don't compare a WM with a DE.
[14:38] <kvgeorge1> any suggestions on how to fix this?
[14:38] <phix> ok
[14:38] <slaffe> daftykins what do you mean?
[14:38] <mhnmcgk> phix: google images for bspwm
[14:38] <phix> mhnmcgk: ok
[14:38] <krux> mhnmcgk: try putting exec bspwm on ~/.xinitrc
[14:39] <guest-UaxnAj> iam run mangaka os what is password root deflute
[14:39] <krux> well nvm that will be if you use startx :S
[14:40] <krux> mhnmcgk: look at this link https://github.com/windelicato/dotfiles/wiki/bspwm-for-dummies
[14:42] <mhnmcgk> krux: That's the link I installed it from.
[14:42] <mhnmcgk> mhnmcgk: Unfortunately, It doesn't tell how to troubleshoot my case.
[14:42] <krux> did you restarted the display manager ?
[14:43] <slaffe> So, no one got a clue?
[14:43] <daftykins> someone replied to you
[14:43] <slaffe> Hmm? I got disconnected, missed that I guess
[14:44] <krux> and you copied bspwm-session to /usr/bin ? and bspwm.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/ ?
[14:46] <mhnmcgk> krux: I don't have a bspwm-session file in the contrib
[14:46] <mhnmcgk> and krux: I copied the .desktop
[14:47] <diogo_> oi
[14:47] <leeyaa> hello
[14:47] <diogo_> ola
[14:47] <krux> something you missed then bspwm-session is the binary that stars the wm.
[14:48] <leeyaa> what could be the reason for unattented_upgrade to tell me i have no packages for update but /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check says i have 3 packages for update (security packages)
[14:48] <krux> mhnmcgk: sudo cp contrib/freedesktop/bspwm-session /usr/bin ? << you checked inside freedesktop folder ?
[14:49] <mhnmcgk> krux: https://github.com/baskerville/bspwm/commit/2b5cf373dd3c96dc0c5c3b44fef911ab47f2712a
[14:49] <mhnmcgk> krux: He deleted that file in the latest commit
[14:49] <slaffe> ./etc/apache/mods-enabled/userdir.conf looks like this
[14:49] <slaffe>     DirectoryIndex index.php index index.html default.html default.htm
[14:49] <slaffe>     AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit Indexes
[14:49] <slaffe>     Options MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch IncludesNoExec
[14:49] <slaffe> Should be all ok there?
[14:51] <spacebug^> Is UEFI-boot with GPT only required if boot disk is >2TB? Should I use USEFI anyway? Best practice?
[14:51] <krux> mhnmcgk: read the comment on the bottom of that link
[14:52] <krux> gotta go to work bbl
[14:53] <FrankFromHR> spacebug^: That is correct I believe.
[14:53] <jeskik> hi all
[14:54] <FrankFromHR> spacebug^: You could even boot from a >2TB drive but you'd only be able to create a partition that is 2TB max.
[14:54] <jeskik> what is the php hep channel?
[14:54] <kvgeorge1> Does anyone have experience with video issues using ubuntu 14.04LTS?
[14:54] <jeskik> help]
[14:56] <kvgeorge1> for some reason I got disconnected.  Here is my question again: Does anyone have experience troubleshooting video issues with 14.04?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !help | jeskik
[14:59] <spacebug^> FrankFromHR: ok Thanks
[14:59] <blib> network-manager now broken for 15.04? or is it just me?
[15:00] <gbit86__> Trying to mount a smb share using cifs-utils, and I have it mounting under the right user alright with permissions that look proper, but I still cannot write, or modify the files. I can only read. Any suggestions on what to try in my fstab or something else altogether??
[15:03] <gbit86__> testing, is this working?
[15:03] <jordan_> yes
[15:03] <cfhowlett> !test | gbit86__
[15:09] <leeyaa> can anyone suggest why would /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable give me 3 security packages for update yet unattented-upgrade does not upgrade anything ?
[15:10] <gbit86__> thanks, ubottu
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> leeyaa  that question is hard to read, please rephrase
[15:16] <leeyaa> MonkeyDust: /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable is supposed to tell me how many security packages i have for update
[15:16] <leeyaa> unattented-upgrade usually updates all such packages
[15:16] <leeyaa> for some reason now it doesn't work
[15:17] <leeyaa> or it does not find packages to update i don't know
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> leeyaa  15 here, upgrading now, to see what it does or doesnt do
[15:18] <leeyaa> MonkeyDust: it worked fine on most servers
[15:18] <leeyaa> a few seem to have something wrong or buggy
[15:18] <Bern_> I assume when installing software on ubuntu the software center installs them on the same disc as the OS it self? If so, how can I change it? Dont feel like installing crap on a small SSD
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> Bern_  you can download the source and install it where you want; not sure about dependencies, tho
[15:19] <Dasdre> I have a really weird problem
[15:20] <Dasdre> I get a black screen instead of a login screen
[15:20] <Dasdre> And nomodeset doesn't work
[15:20] <Dasdre> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze that advice is irrelevant
[15:21] <Dasdre> Setting grub_gfxmode doesn't change anything
[15:21] <Dasdre> I can do ctrl alt f1, but no video
[15:21] <daftykins> Bern_: how small are we talking?
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> leeyaa  yes, it upgrades a great deal here
[15:22] <daftykins> Dasdre: test another user / guest session
[15:22] <Dasdre> No login screen
[15:22] <Dasdre> I get the splash screen and then a black screen
[15:22] <Dasdre> Quiet splash shows it booting as usual
[15:22] <leeyaa> Dasdre: you can login from another terminal and check logs
[15:23] <Dasdre> leeyaa the logs seem pretty normal, I can get a root shell with recovery mode
[15:24] <Dasdre> Caps lock doesn't change the led
[15:24] <leeyaa> check X logs too
[15:24] <Dasdre> REISUB works
[15:24] <leeyaa> whatever your window manager is
[15:25] <ladyicarious> sam015:
[15:25] <ladyicarious> hi
[15:25] <Dasdre> Bern_ What about having /home on your HDD and / on your SSD?  Programs will be installed to / but their data is in /home
[15:25] <sam015> hi lady.......
[15:27] <AdyNO3> Hey all
[15:27] <AdyNO3> What is best file system for hidding files from microsoft?
[15:27] <AdyNO3> ext4?
[15:28] <AdyNO3>
[15:28] <baizon> AdyNO3: BTRFS :D
[15:29] <Dasdre> Xorg logs seem normal
[15:29] <daftykins> Dasdre: share it.
[15:30] <pbx> AdyNO3, you're asking what filesystems cannot be read by Windows? i think that ext2 ext3 ext4 can all be read by windows with the right drivers
[15:30] <AdyNO3> Yes exactly that, file system that only linux can read
[15:32] <Dasdre> There are 2 files in /var/crash with the right date a
[15:32] <Dasdre> With relevant names
[15:32] <daftykins> AdyNO3: i think even trying to hide data that way is foolish
[15:32] <Dasdre> _usr_sbin_atieventsd.0.crash
[15:33] <Dasdre> And _usr_bin_sddm_greeter.115.crash
[15:33] <Dasdre> Lots of Base 64 stuff
[15:34] <FrankFromHR> 3
[15:34] <Dasdre> I think I know what it is
[15:34] <daftykins> !pm
[15:34] <Dasdre> Fglrx failed build
[15:35] <daftykins> sounds like your proprietary AMD module is not there
[15:35] <daftykins> Dasdre: had you pastebin'd /var/log/Xorg.0.log then this could've been discovered
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> FrankFromHR  use #test if you want to know you're still connected
[15:36] <Dasdre> No gui
[15:36] <daftykins> you don't need one
[15:36] <Dasdre> Lynx not installed
[15:36] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:37] <Dasdre> Should I reinstall fglrz
[15:37] <daftykins> the above first would be handy to confirm what's going on.
[15:37] <l1n3x> no sound any advice? installed lubuntu with unity and xubuntu installed
[15:38] <FrankFromHR> MonkeyDust: That wasn't what I was doing, that was a typo..
[15:38] <Dasdre> How do I use pastebin from a terminal?  Nectar?
[15:38] <Dasdre> *netcat
[15:39] <daftykins> Dasdre: < daftykins> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:40] <NTQ1> daftykins: I did a complete reinstall of my server without LVM. I think I got all things installed so far except strongswan. This should be the last step.
[15:40] <daftykins> neat
[15:41] <Dasdre> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12118834
[15:41] <NTQ1> This time I also made a how to in case of an other reinstall xD
[15:42] <l1n3x> i guess my only solution is to reinstall?
[15:42] <daftykins> Dasdre: appears you're forcing a config with xorg.conf / xorg.conf.d/<stuff here> content
[15:42] <daftykins> Linlz: try a new user
[15:42] <l1n3x> me try a new user?
[15:42] <Dasdre> Daftykins Not manually
[15:43] <Dasdre> I think I moved xorg.Conf to force auto regen
[15:43] <daftykins> you shouldn't really need one at all
[15:43] <Bern_> I just DC'd. Someone here told me you could install software from source in order to get to pick destination? Im currently installing spotify, "sudo apt-get install spotify-client" would this command land the software on the same disk as the os?
[15:43] <daftykins> l1n3x: yeah sorry, tripped over your silly nick
[15:43] <daftykins> Linlz: sorry!
[15:43] <l1n3x> ok will come back with results
[15:43] <daftykins> Bern_: what's your SSD size?
[15:44] <daftykins> Bern_: and yes it would because you're not telling it to do anything different
[15:44] <Bern_> daftykins , 120gb
[15:44] <daftykins> Bern_: that's plenty for an ubuntu install to have tonnes of software installed there.
[15:44] <Dasdre> Daftykins Should I just reinstall fglrx?
[15:45] <daftykins> Dasdre: would you have installed from package, or official repos?
[15:45] <daftykins> er package being manual download from AMD
[15:45] <Dasdre> Official repos
[15:45] <daftykins> mmm well it finds fglrx ok, but fails to find fglrxdrm - though i suspect that might be optional
[15:46] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt to purge the lot and try again
[15:46] <Dasdre> Apt-get Remove fglrx and apt get install flgrx
[15:46] <daftykins> no, purge
[15:46] <Bern_> daftykins , sure for software. But things like spotify have no need to have quick writing/reading speeds. I would rather sample some games or more heavy software in that. How do I command a different install location?
[15:46] <daftykins> Bern_: no you're being way too paranoid about SSD writes, all software should live on SSD.
[15:46] <daftykins> and you don't :)
[15:48] <Dasdre> Bern_ It might be easier to force OK to ssd
[15:48] <l1n3x> nope tryed new user still no sound
[15:48] <daftykins> l1n3x: well that's the only thought i had
[15:49] <daftykins> unless it's as simple as volume from pavucontrol / alsamixer
[15:49] <l1n3x> should i run sudo apt-get install alsamixer?
[15:49] <Dasdre> Stuck at Kubuntu logo it seems
[15:49] <Dasdre> Also mixer should be installed
[15:51] <Dasdre> Seems to be stuck, it usually boots much faster
[15:51] <l1n3x> ugh seems like im reinstalling wish me luck
[15:51] <BluesKaj> l1n3x: sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils
[15:51]  * YellowNeck what do you do?
[15:51] <l1n3x> have to log back into my sudo account
[15:51] <Dasdre> No disk io
[15:53] <OerHeks> Dasdre, try this: login with ctrl alt f2, sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall # and reboot
[15:55] <zetheroo> so, I have added the Ubuntu machine to the AD domain and am logged in as an AD user, however I cannot browse the domain computers and shares with Nautilus.
[15:55] <zetheroo> with "smbclient -L <windows-server-ip> -U< username>" I can list all the available shares though
[15:56] <ubuntuisawesome> This is a fucking test of changing the IRC mode
[15:56] <Dasdre> OerHoks, running it in recovery
[15:56] <daftykins> zetheroo: smbfs and smbclient installed? plus maybe even the full samba
[15:56] <zetheroo> but when trying to access the domain from within Nautilus I get a message saying "Unable to access location - Failed to retrieve share list from server: Connection timed out"
[15:57] <OerHeks> !language | ubuntuisawesome
[15:57] <ubuntuisawesome> OK
[15:57] <PCatinean> I try to make a symbolic link but the destination address does not have the file I want
[15:57] <PCatinean> Why is it complaining?
[15:57] <PCatinean> It's about nginx sites enabled thing
[15:57] <OerHeks> Dasdre, oke, not possible to do that in recovery i guess
[15:57] <daftykins> PCatinean: are you sure nginx doesn't have a prog to do it for you like apache has a2ensite ?
[15:57] <zetheroo> daftykins: no installation candidate for smbfs
[15:58] <Dasdre> It installed amd64-microcode
[15:58] <zetheroo> daftykins: and yes, samba and smbclient are installed
[15:58] <daftykins> ah well
[15:58] <daftykins> zetheroo: guess you'll have to bury through some logs
[15:58] <OerHeks> Dasdre, oh, oke, microcode is not bad, but not your fglrx?
[15:58] <zetheroo> daftykins: which logs?
[15:58] <Dasdre> Fglrx has already been reinstalled
[15:59] <daftykins> logs pertaining to your issues...
[15:59] <daftykins> i'm not gonna say "read this file and this line number " :)
[15:59] <zetheroo> daftykins: not sure what those would be ... are there Nautilus error logs?
[16:00] <carlos> bbca
[16:01] <ioria> zetheroo,  i don't know AD ... but for win you use samba or cifs-utils
[16:01] <ioria> !info cifs-utils
[16:02] <Dasdre> Is caps lock handled by xorg?
[16:02] <zetheroo> ioria: yes, I have no probs with Windows shares in general - what I am dealing with here is domain shares for which access is handles by AD authentication
[16:02] <Dasdre> Because the part that 'S responsible seems dead
[16:03] <Dasdre> No light
[16:05] <ioria> zetheroo,  have you see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto ?
[16:05] <qkdt> Hello i hope this is the right place to ask those questions. I have an intel core I7 2.20GHz on a laptop and the powersaving is done by intel_pstate driver i chose the performance governor and i set the maximum frequency to 2.21GHz but when i watch youtube videos the frequency is most of the time 3.10GHz which is a lot and the cpu gets to very high temperatures ~85 degrees i also have turbo boost enabled and active if that helps.
[16:07] <qkdt> #ubuntu-ro
[16:07] <qkdt> sorry :D
[16:07] <Dasdre_> Should I uninstall fglrx?
[16:10] <Dasdre_> What to do? Any logs I can share?
[16:11] <daftykins> Xorg.0.log again
[16:11] <daftykins> i'm heading out for a few though
[16:12] <Dasdre_> Daftykins date is the same
[16:12] <daftykins> so it hasn't run
[16:15] <SCHAAP137> anyone running Ubuntu MATE and experience that the indicator icons in the top right don't center-align immediately?
[16:15] <SCHAAP137> only after resizing the upper pane, they do
[16:15] <SCHAAP137> is there a fix for this?
[16:16] <SCHAAP137> initially they bottom-align within the indicator area in the pane, but i'd like them to center-align directly, if possible
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> qkdt  you can use indicator-cpufreq to change it on the fly... also install thermald to manage your machine's heat
[16:17] <qkdt> i already have thermald MonkeyDust, here look at  this: http://codepad.org/hrEKgm9X
[16:17] <snowkidind> newbie question. trying to setup a cron job mysql dump. i want the backup to show the date in the title. i think you use a command like mysqlbackup/msanzo_'date +\%m+\%d+\%Y'.sql but i can’t seem to get it working. Is there something special I don’t know about the tick mark syntax? I believe the command is trying to run a date function, but it isn’t working
[16:17] <qkdt> MonkeyDust: it says  the frequency should be between 1.20 and 2.21 but it goes higher
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> snowkidind: I thnk it's    mysqlbackup/msanzo_$(date +\%m+\%d+\%Y).sql
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> snowkidind: the guys in #bash may be able to advise
[16:18] <snowkidind> that did it
[16:18] <snowkidind> thas a bunch
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> qkdt  odd, but my tip still holds: install indicator-cpufreq
[16:18] <snowkidind> but i still wonder about why tick marks look different sometimes
[16:19] <qkdt> MonkeyDust: oki i will give it a try
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> snowkidind: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unix-linux-appleosx-bsd-shell-appending-date-to-filename/
[16:19] <dryicebomb> snowkidind: it looks like single quotes on the line that you pasted, not backticks
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> or that way
[16:19] <snowkidind> yea whats up with the backticks
[16:20] <snowkidind> what does that tell shell to do? encase a command?
[16:20] <snowkidind> i guess?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: maybe there is a config file to set the panel size to the size you are setting it at and then maybe it will go to the middle
[16:21] <TheEagerPadawan> how do i change the dns server that my computer uses
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: tempoarily or permanently?
[16:21] <SCHAAP137> hmm, interesting approach ActionParsnip, i could try that
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: seems to be in ~/.mateconf/apps/panel/*
[16:22] <TheEagerPadawan> ActionParsnip: permanently
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: not something I use, but worth a play. Just make backup copies of files before you edit them#
[16:22] <snowkidind> oh i get it after reading it is pretty much a like a macro
[16:22] <TheEagerPadawan> brb
[16:22] <SCHAAP137> the aligning seems to take place independently from panel size though, so if i change the panel size and reboot, they're equally unaligned irrespective of the panel size
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> TheEagerPadawan  sudo -e /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base ... nameserver x.x.x.x ...  save ... sudo resolvconf -u ... done!
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: I use  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head personally, add the "nameserver a.b.c.d" lines at the bottom of that file and it will override anything you get from DHCP :)
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: eg:    echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head > /dev/null
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: you will need to rerequest DHCP to make it reapply.If you are using a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces then put the nameserver line directly into /etc/hosts
[16:27] <retro> whatsup
[16:28] <Guest81870> hey
[16:28] <Guest81870> whatsup people
[16:28] <Guest81870> po lypshi ropt me jav qi
[16:29] <Guest81870> besomni
[16:29] <Guest81870> po folni tkarit
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> Guest81870  what's you're language? find a channel accordingly
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> gone
[16:30] <downbeam> does anyone know how to install powerpoint viewer?
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> !powerpoint | downbeam start here
[16:34] <khax> downbeam i use microsoft office installed via playonlinux ..
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> i use ms office in vbox, winxp
[16:35] <khax> nice :)
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> downbeam: have you tried it in LibreOffice ?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> downbeam: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=21697
[16:37] <mojtaba> Hi, I have followed this instruction to install finger print reader, but it just changed the graphic of the system to KDE like graphic. (I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on lenovo T440s) Do you know what should I do to fix it?
[16:37] <mojtaba> http://zecheru.com/thinkpad-fingerprint-ubuntu-14-04/
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> downbeam: the viwer seems to be ok in WINE
[16:38] <maintenance> Hi all, sorry for my bad english, i m a french user ;-) i looking for nautilus script for search files in a folder and children, advice please ?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> maintenance: could use find in terminal....
[16:39] <maintenance> ActionParsnip, Yes, but i prefer graphical interface
[16:39] <TheEagerPadawan> ok back guys, how do i change the dns that use permanently
[16:39] <ioria> !info  gnome-search-tool
[16:40] <maintenance> thanks all and have fun
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: I told you already
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> maintenance: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nautilus+Search+Here?content=126647
[16:41] <demonlove> what is the main  difference between su  and sudo?
[16:41] <SCHAAP137> sudo is used in combination with other commands, demonlove
[16:41] <maintenance> oops i ve forget a litte change, i use cinamom..no problem with cinamom and gnome search tool ?
[16:41] <SCHAAP137> as to execute it with superuser powers
[16:42] <SCHAAP137> su is used for switching between users, mainly from non-root to root
[16:42] <Dasdre_> The new pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/12119199
[16:42] <SCHAAP137> it could be used in similar ways though demonlove, but this would be the main difference
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> demonlove: sudo is more controlled, you can specify what commands a user can run using visudo. su will let you run any command as long as you know the password of the account you are su'ing to
[16:42] <Dasdre_> daftykins
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> maintenance: MATE is based on GTK
[16:43] <maintenance> ActionParsnip, ok thanks
[16:43] <demonlove> do running make command needs any extra plugin?
[16:43] <Dasdre_> My X seems to be completely dead
[16:44] <mojtaba> Hi, I have followed this instruction to install finger print reader, but it just changed the graphic of the system to KDE like graphic. (I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on lenovo T440s) Do you know what should I do to fix it?  http://zecheru.com/thinkpad-fingerprint-ubuntu-14-04/
[16:44] <Dasdre_> When I start it, it freezes, caps led stops working, and monitor goes black
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> demonlove: http://www.differencebetween.net/technology/difference-between-su-and-sudo/
[16:45] <ioria> Dasdre_, try to boot , removing "quite splash", i know is silly ... but it's easy to try
[16:45] <Dasdre_> I've done that
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> demonlove: make (as long as the files are in your user's $HOME) will not need sudo, as you are only writing to files and folders in $HOME, so sudo is not needed)
[16:45] <Dasdre_> It looks like it's booting normally
[16:45] <Dasdre_> But no login screen
[16:45] <ioria> Dasdre_, you can restart lightdm service ?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Dasdre_: if you press CTRL + ALT + F1, can you log in there?
[16:46] <Dasdre_> No screen
[16:46] <Dasdre_> I can log in
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Dasdre_: oh...headless box you mean?
[16:46] <daftykins> Dasdre_: be funny if this whole time you had a second display plugged in
[16:46] <Dasdre_> It becomes headless when I start z
[16:46] <Dasdre_> *x
[16:46] <demonlove> ActionParsnip: no this this my another question free from sudo
[16:47] <ioria> Dasdre_,  ati legacy card ?
[16:47] <Dasdre_> Daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12119199
[16:47] <demonlove> do i need any extra intallation for running make cmd?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Dasdre_: After you start x , drop back to TTY1 and read /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:47] <Dasdre_> 270x, worked fine yesterday
[16:47] <OerHeks> demonlove, try it, any error will give a clue what -dev packages you need
[16:47] <Dasdre_> There's a crash log from the same time
[16:48] <Dasdre_> I logged lut
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> demonlove: you'll need the build-essentials package
[16:48] <Dasdre_> ActionParsnip The xorg log is in the pastebin
[16:48] <daftykins> Dasdre_: still seems pretty unhappy, but no content. make sure there's no xorg.conf (rename it) and perhaps empty xorg.conf.d/
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> or build-essential   I forget
[16:48] <OerHeks>  !build
[16:48] <daftykins> build-essential yep :)
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Dasdre_: if you blacklist the proprietary video driver, is it ok?
[16:49] <BrazenBraden> im running ubuntu 14.04. no external gfx card atm as it fried so running off onboard HD5000. when I fullscreen any web video (flash / html5) all my 4 cores almost hit 100% usage. fine with VLC and other media players. how do I fix this?
[16:49] <TheEagerPadawan> ActionParsnip: what if i use a both IPv4 and IPv6 can i just add nameserver <someip6> in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[16:49] <ismail_> hello
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: the head file contains the text that says "don't edit this file" so any text you add to it will be assumed to be the header. The fact that it is a valid config line is just extra
[16:50] <ismail_> im new
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: or you can set the name servers if you are using the /etc/network/interfaces file by adding more lines
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: the GUI network manager app will allow you to set DNS servers too
[16:50] <Dasdre_> The recovery menu shows äöåöäå in the border instead of whatever it should be
[16:51] <TheEagerPadawan> ActionParSnip: i prefer learning the cli way ;)
[16:51] <nrdb> I am having trouble with ssh :-( ... I can connect successfully locally ... but not remotely ... I setup tcpdump to show me the packets .... when I try to connect remotely, I see the TCP packets come in, but there are no reply packets ... any ideas why?
[16:51] <demonlove> ActionParsnip: how to know which are my essential pacakage?
[16:51] <demonlove> and why did it not come by defalt
[16:52] <demonlove> ?
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> demonlove: experience
[16:52] <TheEagerPadawan> ActionParsnip: thanks for the advice ;)
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: its a hack (the way I do it, but it works)
[16:53] <mojtaba> Hi, I have followed this instruction to install finger print reader, but it just changed the graphic of the system to KDE like graphic. (I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on lenovo T440s) Do you know what should I do to fix it?  http://zecheru.com/thinkpad-fingerprint-ubuntu-14-04/
[16:53] <mojtaba> No one?
[16:53] <Dasdre> http://i.imgur.com/xif7qqa.jpg
[16:53] <mojtaba> Please help :(
[16:53] <TheEagerPadawan> ActionParSnip: even better
[16:53] <Dasdre> Mojtaba do you have the issue with KDE?
[16:53] <daftykins> mojtaba: "graphic of the system" = ?
[16:54] <mojtaba> Dasdre: The top menu is just transparent. I can post a picture.
[16:54] <demonlove> ActionParsnip: one more thing which is  better flavour in term of devlopment gnome or kbuntu or xbuntu
[16:54] <ioria> Dasdre_,  have you tired to remove your drivers ?
[16:54] <Dasdre> http://i.imgur.com/xif7qqa.jpg this might be related to my issue
[16:54] <ioria> *tried
[16:54] <Dasdre> Gonna remove fglrx real quick
[16:55] <dev-code> guys
[16:55] <dev-code> what happen with flash on ubuntu
[16:55] <dev-code> the last upgrade
[16:55] <Ben64> dev-code: explain
[16:55] <Dasdre> Why do you want flash?
[16:55] <dev-code> to see movies on internet
[16:56] <dev-code> for e.j
[16:56] <TJ-> dev-code: what is the actually problem?
[16:56] <Dasdre> Vlx
[16:56] <daftykins> flash in firefox has been pretty terrible for a while, install chromium/chrome and pepperflash if you want a better experience
[16:56] <Dasdre> *vlc
[16:57] <mojtaba> daftykins: Dasdre: http://picpaste.com/df-T8GNCfQg.png
[16:57] <dev-code> i've done the last upgrade on ubuntu and one of them was to update my flash plugin and now, no video online I cant see
[16:57] <mojtaba> daftykins: By graphic I mean appearance.
[16:57] <TJ-> dev-code: using what Browser/version?
[16:57] <daftykins> mojtaba: so the way it's green?
[16:58] <dev-code> Opera, Chromium, Firefox Developer edition Konqueror
[16:58] <mojtaba> daftykins: no. The top menu is transparent and folder icons are like the one in kde.
[16:58] <Dasdre> It works when I uninstall fglrx, but no cursor
[16:58] <mojtaba> daftykins: I do not know why this happened?!
[16:58] <daftykins> ah yeah, funky.
[16:58] <demonlove> i need some recording software for ubuntu to  make video tutorials
[16:58] <Dasdre> Mojtaba what about right click - > panel settings?
[16:58] <daftykins> mojtaba: and this persists across reboots etc?
[16:59] <demonlove> which is best one?
[16:59] <mojtaba> daftykins: yes
[16:59] <mojtaba> Dasdre: How can I check that?
[16:59] <dev-code> demonlove, RecordMyDesktop from Store
[16:59] <dev-code> TJ?
[16:59] <dev-code> TJ-, ?
[16:59] <mojtaba> Dasdre: You mean when I right click on the desktop? (yes the right click panel has also changed
[17:00] <Dasdre> Mojtaba right click on the panel,  panel settings, and then transparency
[17:00] <Dasdre> Or color
[17:00] <demonlove> dev-code but i  think that is ppa
[17:00] <demonlove> installing ppa  isn't right i  think
[17:00] <demonlove> isn't?
[17:00] <mojtaba> Dasdre: Where is the panel?
[17:01] <Dasdre> No mouse /keyboard support now when I disable fglrx
[17:01] <Dasdre> On top
[17:01] <kadiro> demonlove: in some case yes
[17:01] <Dasdre> The green transparent thing with the icons
[17:01] <mojtaba> daftykins: right click does not work there
[17:01] <daftykins> tab complete fail :>
[17:01] <mojtaba> Dasdre: It is unity
[17:02] <Dasdre> Oh. It might have loaded gnome fallback
[17:02] <TJ-> dev-code: I don't have flash-plugin installed it is too much of a security risk. Check the package changelog/report a bug against it if you experience problems.
[17:02] <demonlove> kadiro: how to know which are some good cases don't say  experience.,.
[17:02] <mojtaba> Dasdre: I just followed this: http://zecheru.com/thinkpad-fingerprint-ubuntu-14-04/
[17:02] <mojtaba> Dasdre: and then this mess happened
[17:03] <TJ-> dev-code: The changelog says new upstream release New upstream release <IP_ADDRESS>8  on 10th August
[17:03] <kadiro> demonlove: when we can't find a package from softwere manager then yes we must try some ppa's
[17:03] <ioria> Dasdre_,  maybe it's not completely  purged ....
[17:04] <TJ-> mojtaba: what benefit is the FPR going to give? FPs aren't safe for authentication (i.e. as a substitute for passwords), only for identity
[17:04] <Dasdre> ioria why is my mouse dead?
[17:04] <mojtaba> TJ-: You are right. But it messed up my theme. ( I do not know what else has happened back the scene.) Do you know how can I fix the issue?
[17:05] <Dasdre> It gets power but won't send stuff
[17:05] <Dasdre> Back light works
[17:05] <OerHeks> demonlove, look at the ubuntu-studio package list https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Applications
[17:05] <TJ-> mojtaba: I'm sorry I don't. I tried that FPR GUI some time ago (about 18 months) but it was so problematic (causing random freezes of login) I removed it
[17:05] <daftykins> Dasdre: sure you don't have a TV plugged in? :D
[17:06] <daftykins> the desktop could be over there all along
[17:06] <ioria> Dasdre_,  if you run a script to install it, you have to use it with unistall flag , then purge with apt and check if there still an /etc/ati or a /usr/lib/fglrx
[17:06] <mojtaba> TJ-: I removed it too, but still I have the problem :(
[17:06] <demonlove> and what is actully ppa means can i  assume it as third party software
[17:06] <TJ-> mojtaba: Hmmm... did you follow the instructions about replacing policykit?
[17:06] <kadiro> yes demonlove
[17:06] <ioria> Dasdre_,  and back up an eventually xorg.conf
[17:06] <mojtaba> TJ-: yes
[17:07] <SparkMasterTape> PPA - Personal Package Archive
[17:08] <demonlove> how is plugin diff from ppa?
[17:08] <TJ-> mojtaba: I'm not sure then. Maybe read back through "/var/log/apt/history.log" to find out if any packages were removed/replaced at the time the FPR GUI was installed... and ensure they're installed now if os
[17:08] <TJ-> !ppa | demonlove
[17:09] <dasdre_> Should I kill xorg.conf?
[17:10] <daftykins> Dasdre: i did say this ages ago.
[17:10] <ioria> Dasdre_,  you make a backup
[17:10] <kadiro> dasdre_: xorgcon is a file
[17:10] <daftykins> i guess i shall stop helping
[17:10] <mojtaba> TJ-: Can you figure it out if I pastebinit here?
[17:11] <mojtaba> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12119381/
[17:12] <dasdre_> I removed xorg.conf earlier
[17:12] <dasdre_> It doesn't regen
[17:12] <dasdre_> (before joining this irc)
[17:13] <mojtaba> dasdre_: daftykins: could you please check the output of the apt/history? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12119381/
[17:13] <daftykins> nope sorry.
[17:13] <mojtaba> daftykins: ok, thanks
[17:13] <demonlove> help me with my previous question i   was offline for amoment
[17:14] <kadiro> !ppa | demonlove
[17:14] <ioria> dasdre_, if you run sudo apt-get purge fglrx*   ?
[17:14] <OerHeks> demonlove, comparing the ppa version with our repos ? why ?
[17:14] <demonlove> and what abt plugin
[17:15] <OerHeks> demonlove, don't use ppa's, unless you can fix things yourself.
 no comparison is going on but tell me m  using 14.04 and the link which u  have sent me is for 11.10