[19:03] <ActionParsnip> Black: delete ~/.bash_history  then make a new blank file and mark it as read only
[19:03] <arunce> foxtrot9: do you have that options on ati control panel?
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> Black: do you not use the history at all, its supremely handy
[19:03] <foxtrot9> arunce: yes
[19:03] <satyanash> ActionParsnip, haha nice trick..
[19:04] <foxtrot9> arunce: it says 3rd monitor disabled
[19:04] <mmirai> Hello Linux Ubuntu people!
[19:04] <arunce> foxtrot9: I had that problem some months ago
[19:05] <arunce> foxtrot9: let me check
[19:05] <bittin> Chips N Bricks: http://scenesat.com/listen/normal/mid.m3u
[19:06] <Jon--> I recently moved up to 11.10 and I get this message when I attempt to install certain software: http://pastebin.com/ubUyp03w
[19:06] <mmirai> neat song, bittin
[19:07] <v0lksman> when is 12.04 golden?
[19:07] <mmirai> Pidgin should be installed already, Jon
[19:07] <mmirai> It was when I installed 11.10 anyways
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> !12.04| VoveriusNibiruPl
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> !12.04| v0lksman
[19:08] <v0lksman> hrm...doesn't say when it will be released though (or scheduled to be)
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> v0lksman  here's the schedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[19:09] <v0lksman> MonkeyDust: thanks!
[19:09] <TeoBigusGeekus> @jon: Try sudo apt-get install -f
[19:09] <yoshimi-pink> its a trap!
[19:09] <yoshimi-pink> D:
[19:10] <Tech-1> el oh el
[19:10] <satyanash> Hi, Can someone help me with my dual head setup ?
[19:11] <satyanash> Is there any way I can have a one workspace displayed on one screen, while another workspace on another screen ?
[19:14] <BigR> niom
[19:14] <BigR> niom
[19:14] <waxstone> satyanash, well you can make a window show on all worksheets I dk if that will solve your question. i.e. same program on 2nd monitor and different ones on 1st monitor
[19:14] <BigR> moin
[19:15] <arunce> foxtrot9: try this - 1. backup your xorg.conf file; 2. sudo aticonfig --initial; 3. restart x
[19:16] <foxtrot9> arunce: already did that
[19:16] <arunce> foxtrot9: I did that sometime ago, but now i'm back on two identical screens due to tear.
[19:16] <foxtrot9> arunce: my 3rd screen still isn't detected
[19:17] <satyanash> waxstone, I want a functionality exactly as described by the poster here  --> http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/11443/multiple-workspaces-per-screen-openbox-or-and-openbox-hackers-there/
[19:18] <Porkman> Anyone able to help? I need to remap the meta key into, for example, left win key
[19:18] <dizaster> hi, does anyone know of a decent launcher that I can use while using gnome-classic? I like the launcher portion of unity, but not the rest. :-(
[19:19] <Jon--> I recently moved up to 11.10 and I get this message when I attempt to install certain software: http://pastebin.com/ubUyp03w
[19:19] <pfifo> satyanash, look into awm I think it can do what you want
[19:19] <neyder_> hola!
[19:20] <neyder_> hi!, i mean.
[19:20] <satyanash> pfifo, awm ?
[19:20] <dizaster> Jon--: run sudo apt-get update
[19:20] <Destiny> Can the Lost video game run on windows vista?
[19:20] <Jon--> dizaster, I did before running that command.
[19:20] <neyder_> How can I hide users from lightdm? i have put in /etc/lightdm/users.conf but it doesn work
[19:21] <pfifo> !info awesome | satyanash
[19:21] <OerHeks> Destiny, why?
[19:21] <satyanash> pfifo, I use Xmonad.
[19:21] <Destiny> I want to play the game...
[19:21] <Destiny> dur...
[19:21] <BigR> 03a903a903a9
[19:21] <sambagirl> is crunchbanglinux.org a wordpress site?
[19:21] <Jon--> Also, my volume pop up, and gnome-panel look very, very ugly when using Ubuntu classic (after installing gnome-panel). Unrelated issue though.
[19:22] <BigR> did someone of you know a monitoring tool witch runs on ssh. so that you can see anything right-away in the console session?
[19:22] <jrib> neyder_: did you restart lightdm service?
[19:22] <pfifo> satyanash, Then I guess its time to break out the IDE and cusomize it at the source
[19:22] <jrib> BigR: monitoring of what?
[19:22] <Destiny> So can a Windows Vista run it?
[19:22] <BigR> the whole server. traffic, ram, CPU balace
[19:22] <neyder_> jrib yes, I do
[19:22] <Jon--> I recently moved up to 11.10 and I get this message when I attempt to install certain software: http://pastebin.com/ubUyp03w [I have run apt-get update before this]
[19:23] <OerHeks> Destiny, how would we know? this is Ubuntu support
[19:23] <auronandace> Destiny: why are you asking in #ubuntu?
[19:23] <ssta> sambagirl: the blog part is...
[19:23] <satyanash> pfifo, So I guess this cannot be solved by just editing the global xorg.conf.. Probably because worspaces are handled by the WM and not X.. Thanks!
[19:23] <bazhang> Destiny, ask in ##windows
[19:23] <jrib> satyanash: default xmonad behavior is to behave as you describe I believe
[19:23] <pfifo> satyanash, correct
[19:23] <Destiny> because someone else sent me here from #alephone
[19:23] <sambagirl> ssta their download page is really nice
[19:23] <BigR> the whole server. traffic, ram, CPU balace
[19:23] <jrib> satyanash: I may have missed your original question, but each screen in xmonad will correspond to a workspace
[19:23] <bazhang> Destiny, this is the wrong place to ask
[19:23] <satyanash> jrib, is it ? Do  Ihave to use TwinView ? Xinerama ? or Separate X Screens ?
[19:24] <jrib> satyanash: hmm, works here with twinview
[19:24] <Destiny> then it's Wrkncacnter's fault
[19:24] <satyanash> jrib, if that works, it would be a pleasant surprise.. :) I am using Fvwm2 atm.
[19:24] <BigR> did someone of you guys know a monitoring tool witch is displayed in the console session (SSH)
[19:24] <z0rk> I have a quick question about terminal and bash.
[19:24] <auronandace> Destiny: you can recify the problem by typing: /join ##windows
[19:25] <Destiny> I clicked on it. Already there
[19:25] <Destiny> thanks for the help
[19:26] <jrib> satyanash: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Frequently_asked_questions good troubleshooting section there as well as a brief description of default behavior and options available earlier (search for "multi")
[19:26] <Praxi> BigR, something other than TOP?
[19:26] <trism> neyder_: you want to hide all the users on the greeter? or just specific ones
[19:26] <17WAAZD4Z> BigR: what are you trying to monitore? If it is net traffic you can use iptraf.... for example
[19:26] <jrib> satyanash: are you using twinview atm?
[19:26] <z0rk> When I enter the command '$RANDOM' into terminal I get : command not found
[19:26] <satyanash> jrib, no. Separate X screens.
[19:26] <BigR> hey there. did some of you guys know a ssh server or something similar witch displays traffic, cpu load, ram load etc. right away in the ssh console session???
[19:26] <z0rk> why its that?
[19:27] <neyder_> trism specific ones, or if i can make the user put their user name
[19:27] <jrib> satyanash: ah yes, I don't think that would work
[19:27] <gr33n7007h> echo $RANDOM
[19:27] <satyanash> jrib, requires X restart.. Cleaning up work at hand..
[19:27] <Praxi> ! patience | bigr
[19:27] <Praxi> !patience | bigr
[19:27] <pfifo> gzip source comes in a gzipped tarball, but if you dont have gzip how are you supposed to extract and install it?
[19:27] <z0rk> gr33n thanks
[19:28] <Porkman> Anybody able to help? My keyboard setup somehow doesnt have the meta key, and i need it (to play nethack!)
[19:28] <z0rk> the man didnt say I needed the prefix echo
[19:28] <17WAAZD4Z> BigR: For net traffic you can use iptraf, for the rest i like to use htop
[19:28] <trism> neyder_: yes if you hide the users a login prompt will be added to allow the users to enter their names, add greeter-hide-users=true to the SeatDefaults section of /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and then sudo restart lightdm;
[19:28] <gr33n7007h> lol
[19:28] <pfifo> Porkman, i think you can press escape twice instead
[19:29] <neyder_> trism, i do that and only guest user i showed, and no option to other user
[19:29] <Porkman> pfifo, double esc isnt workin
[19:29] <neyder_> *it showed
[19:29] <spych102> I can't get my game to run and i'm not sure why
[19:29] <Praxi> nice call on htop 17WAAZD4Z, looks good, never actually used it hehe
[19:29] <trism> neyder_: which greeter are you using?
[19:29] <trism> neyder_: also which ubuntu version are you on?
[19:29] <pfifo> Porkman, run `onboard`
[19:29] <neyder_> lighdm defaul (fresh install
[19:30] <Porkman> how do i run onboard?
[19:30] <pfifo> Porkman, from cli type 'onboard'
[19:30] <neyder_> lightdm deafult from edubuntu (fresh install), i mean
[19:30] <trism> neyder_: yes but which version of ubuntu
[19:31] <neyder_> 12.04
[19:31] <Fyodorovna> Porkman, runs from dash as wel.
[19:31] <Jon--> I recently moved up to 11.10 and I get this message when I attempt to install certain software: http://pastebin.com/ubUyp03w [I have run apt-get update before this]
[19:31] <auronandace> spych102: more details, what game?
[19:31] <Porkman>  not working on dash either.. is there anyw ay i could make sure it maps somewhere?
[19:31] <spych102> zenbound2
[19:32] <auronandace> spych102: you running it in wine?
[19:32] <trism> neyder_: 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1 , and I'm not sure what greeter defaults on edubuntu, we can continue this in #ubuntu+1
[19:32] <spych102> auronandace: no, i installed the deb that came from the humble bundle
[19:34] <auronandace> spych102: how are you running it?
[19:34] <spych102> auronandace: first through unity and then through the cmd line
[19:35] <auronandace> spych102: what is the output via terminal?
[19:35] <spych102> auronandace: it just returns Setting Video Head to 0 and Setting Resolution to 1366, 768
[19:35] <spych102> .. and then returns to the prompt
[19:35] <pfifo> Jon--, run `sudo apt-get install -f`
[19:36] <beam> I do not know whether this is the place, and certainly does seem a bit frivolous, but I still wonder. with ubuntu 10.4 am and I've installed opera from opera_11.61.1250_i386.deb. his opera itself actually works perfectly, but when you open the icon that appears on top of the panel to the notification area is slightly unsized (slightly smaller than that of starter and any glare and reflections). I know not, who knows what the problem, but irritates me. I hope s
[19:36] <beam> omeone knows where the system loads the icon to change it to another level.
[19:36] <pujaan> #BINUSHACKER
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> beam: could find your own icon and apply it
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> Beam: try a right click -> properties
[19:39] <beam> but where apply it
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> Beam: you can also manually edit the file in /usr/share/applications to edit it. Alacarte should be able to edit it too
[19:39] <beam> right click -> properties is for opera
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> Beam: you can put it wherever you want.
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> Beam: /usr/share/icons would be good too
[19:41] <CharminTheMoose> I'm trying to compile a kernel, but when I do make modules_install, I get the following output: http://pastebin.ca/2130131 What am I doing wrong?
[19:41] <beam> and when I start Opera from there it will load icon
[19:41] <AndChat-> Dang blackspots
[19:42] <spych102> auronandace: i might try using the other AMD driver to see if it makes a difference
[19:43] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, nothing
[19:43] <dusf> can anyone explaing to me why apt-get aborts this operation despite my confirming it by entering y? http://pastebin.com/uFzzEbvv
[19:43] <beam> in /usr/share/icons is no icon for opera
[19:44] <dr3mro> hello  , I have a problem with ubuntu 11.10 that when I log out or switch users i just get blank screen and i have to hard reset to make it work again .. any help  !???
[19:45] <stillParsnip> Dusf: is there free space on the partition?
[19:45] <pfifo> dusf, use a lower case y or just press enter
[19:45] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, erm, so what's the problem with the modules not installing correctly?
[19:45] <auronandace> spych102: you might try running the game from a different desktop environment, just incase compiz is at fault
[19:45] <stillParsnip> dr3mro: what gpu? What make and
[19:46] <stillParsnip> dr3mro: make and model system?
[19:46] <dusf> pfifo: tried both
[19:46] <dusf> stillParsnip: should be, confirming...
[19:46] <dr3mro> stillParsnip, it worked fine before but all of sudden it behave like that i have fujitsu siemens amilo pi 1505 with i945 gpu and dual core cpu @ 1.8 and 3gb or ram
[19:47] <dusf> stillParsnip: sorry, what's the best command to check? i don't usually look at my / partition nycg
[19:47] <dusf> much
[19:47] <comunistu> hello
[19:47] <m112> seacher russia people
[19:48] <comunistu> ubuntu 10.04 vs 10.10?
[19:48] <stillParsnip> dr3mro: I'd check ram health. Is it caused by switching / logging off any user?
[19:48] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, what is the problem?
[19:48] <stillParsnip> dusf: df -h
[19:48] <dr3mro> stillParsnip, all is it's something with lightdm !!
[19:48] <auronandace> comunistu: 10.10 is eol next month
[19:49] <spych102> auronandace: i tried running it from unity 2d, should that do the trick?
[19:49] <stillParsnip> dr3mro: could install gdm and try that instead
[19:49] <m112> what format usb flash memory?
[19:49] <stillParsnip> M112: what size and will it be used in windows systems?
[19:49] <auronandace> spych102: unity2d doesn't use compiz, so yes, that would rule out compiz if it still doesn't work
[19:50] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, I was building a 2.6.39 kernel patched with aufs support and used an 'allmodconfig' to generate the .config. I built everything, but when I try to install the modules, the above pasted error happens.
[19:50] <belgianguy> could someone tell me how to see what name is assigned to sda, sdb
[19:50] <Bambino> should i re configure my ubuntu if i've changed my hd from a netbook to a laptop? ( and if i should how could i do that?)
[19:50] <m112> no linux
[19:50] <rhizmoe> belgianguy: dmesg | grep sd
[19:50] <stillParsnip> comunistu: maverick is eol next month so i wouldnt bother with a clean install of it
[19:50] <beam> m112 - fat32
[19:50] <m112> file system iso9660
[19:50] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, a warning is not an error, im not seeing a problem anywhere
[19:50] <spych102> auronandace: i've started to install the restricted AMD driver to see if that helps.. although last time i used it was not that great
[19:51] <stillParsnip> m112: how big is it?
[19:51] <comunistu> yes i try 10.04.4
[19:51] <m112> yes
[19:51] <rhizmoe> belgianguy: also df
[19:52] <stillParsnip> comunistu: i would, or 11.10. Either will give easy upgrade to precise too :-)
[19:52] <blop> hello
[19:52] <dusf> stillParsnip: http://pastebin.com/UQujiejz
[19:52] <m112> hello
[19:52] <comunistu> i hate unity
[19:52] <m112> help?
[19:52] <auronandace> spych102: i've only used nvidia, so i couldn't help you with ati/amd
[19:52] <stillParsnip> m112: how big is the flash storage?
[19:52] <blop> i have a problem creating a vlan on a bond0 interface .. it does not work since upgrade to 11.10 .. any idea ?
[19:53] <sskalnik> I noticed that while Oracle's site says that Ksplice Uptrack is only supported for Ubuntu desktop, there's a ksplice package in the repos for Ubuntu Server. Is that a totally separate thing?
[19:53] <auronandace> comunistu: you can use 11.10 without using unity
[19:53] <dusf> stillParsnip: apologies, pressing enter did do it but i don't know why entering y did not?
[19:53] <dusf> pfifo: ty
[19:53] <belgianguy> rhizmoe, thanks
[19:53] <auronandace> comunistu: there is kde4, gnome3, xfce, lxde, enlightenment
[19:54] <itatitat> Hi
[19:54] <itatitat> Im working with ubuntu server
[19:54] <comunistu> yes but i have same problem with panel
[19:54] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, True. But the weird thing is that despite 'allmodconfig' making everything it can be a module, only those specific .ko files (the crypto ones) are installed into /lib/modules/<version>. :/
[19:54] <itatitat> I have a problem
[19:54] <itatitat> because I need to install a app, but I cant access to internet
[19:54] <itatitat> any Idea?
[19:54] <bazhang> !offline | itatitat
[19:54] <m112> 72
[19:55] <bazhang> m112, whats that
[19:55] <Aciid> why is it that when im trying to set up ad-hoc network on one of my wlan cards. It sets up the both cards to the same mode
[19:55] <m112> size
[19:55] <itatitat> wo
[19:55] <itatitat> good
[19:55] <stillParsnip> comunistu: unity is only one of the four officially supported ubuntu variants. So hating unity isn't really an excuse to not use oneiric
[19:55] <itatitat> thanks a lot
[19:55] <m112> flash
[19:55] <itatitat> yoiu have saved me
[19:55] <itatitat> thanks
[19:55] <FloodBot1> itatitat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:55] <m112> ok dont"s flood
[19:55] <bazhang> m112, ubuntu support question?
[19:56] <m112> yes.
[19:56] <comunistu> maybe after upgrade ram
[19:56] <m112> 0
[19:56] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, I have no idea why, theres nothing in your paste that hints at a problem
[19:56] <bazhang> m112, what is the ubuntu support question you have
[19:57] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, are you running the kernel you built?
[19:57] <belgianguy> rhizmoe, I'm looking in GParted to a partition I'll need to delete
[19:57] <belgianguy> but I can't find the real name through dmesg or df
[19:57] <m112> read closed
[19:57] <belgianguy> it's called /dev/sdb5
[19:58] <m112> flash read closed
[19:58] <m112> help?
[19:58] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, No, I'm not. But I can paste the .config of the kernel
[19:58] <Aciid> hey does anyone know, why network-manager sets both wifi cards to same AP/connection?
[19:58] <rhizmoe> belgianguy: check fstab and see if it's a GUID
[19:58] <auronandace> !details | m112
[19:58] <CharminTheMoose> the kernel I'm building that is
[19:58] <belgianguy> rhizmoe, thanks
[19:58] <rhizmoe> m112: once again, in english
[19:58] <bazhang> m112, all of your question on one line
[19:58] <rhizmoe> belgianguy: no prob
[19:59] <itatitat> OK, i have the script
[19:59] <itatitat> to install
[19:59] <IWorld> Hello.
[19:59] <itatitat> and now?
[19:59] <rhizmoe> itatitat: stop that
[19:59] <itatitat> aaah
[19:59] <itatitat> okok
[19:59] <itatitat> sorry
[19:59] <rhizmoe> /ignore itatitat
[19:59] <FloodBot1> itatitat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:59] <IWorld> I have a quick question: comes Ubuntu 12.04 with HUB?
[19:59] <belgianguy> rhizmoe, fstab gives command not found
[19:59] <bazhang> IWorld, yep
[19:59] <belgianguy> yet I can remember using it :s
[19:59] <rhizmoe> belgianguy: it's a file. /etc/fstab
[19:59] <bazhang> IWorld, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 please
[20:00] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, boot into that kernel and try again
[20:00] <IWorld> ok
[20:00] <belgianguy> oops :$
[20:00] <m112> beam help
[20:00] <rhizmoe> belgianguy: man fstab
[20:00] <m112> read file system
[20:00] <m112> help
[20:00] <rhizmoe> m112: how old are you?
[20:01] <OerHeks> m112 try #ubuntu-ru if you can not explain your problem
[20:01] <m112> read only file system
[20:01] <belgianguy> rhizmoe, it's not listed in fstab, but this is a Dual Boot machine
[20:01] <m112> i not problem
[20:01] <itatitat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/891196/
[20:02] <belgianguy> it's an NTFS partition I want to get rid off, to give more room to Ubuntu
[20:02] <chalcedony> i need help with a backup and a problem: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=viRMnWxG
[20:02] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, I'm building it in a chroot.. Is there any particular reason I shouldn't be able to install all modules on their own via make modules_install? My .config for the chroot kernel is: http://pastebin.ca/2130148
[20:02] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, cause of uname -r giving bad information
[20:03] <mcb_1> belgianguy: Try $ ls -lah /dev/disks/by-label It will list all devs that are attached. You should find your drive there.
[20:04] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, I don't understand. Why would uname -r come into this? :/ Even if I did boot into the kernel, I wouldn't be able to mount / 'cos the modules aren't installed.
[20:04] <belgianguy> mcb_1, thanks, this shows some of the sd* devices
[20:05] <pfifo> chalcedony, I gave you the fix to your problem 2 days ago
[20:05] <mcb_1> belgianguy:  It should show you all the disks you have.
[20:05] <chalcedony> pfifo, oh.. relooking
[20:06] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, I dont know.. WHY would uname -r have anything to do with this :D ... to the google mobile!
[20:06] <mcb_1> belgianguy: Try $ ls -lah /dev/disk/by-uuid/ In case you have disks without labels.
[20:06] <belgianguy> mcb_1, the partition is called sdb5 in GParted, and I can't see it in the by-label list
[20:07] <belgianguy> so I'll try the by-uuid now
[20:07] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, hehehe, guess I sounded a bit pissy. My bad. :P
[20:07] <pfifo> chalcedony, you need to rename his home director and create a new one from /etc/skel
[20:07] <chalcedony> pfifo, did you mean this? :Mar:17:19:54:58 <pfifo>    chalcedony, try this 'sudo mv /home/chalcedony /home/old && sudo cp -a /etc/skel /home/chalcedony && sudo chown -R chalcedony:chalcedony /home/chalcedony'
[20:07] <belgianguy> mcb_1, it's there, :)
[20:08] <pfifo> chalcedony, yes exactly
[20:08] <belgianguy> now to find to see what's on it
[20:08] <chalcedony> pfifo, i was scared to do that
[20:08] <belgianguy> eg, if it's my Windows 7 boot partition, I'm stuck
[20:08] <mcb_1> belgianguy: Just mount it. $mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[20:08] <pfifo> chalcedony, it will fix your problem right away
[20:08] <belgianguy> I hope it's some random data that I can back up, and then delete the partition
[20:08] <Chaitanya> I have a huge 1 tb hard disk on which I want to use some command line utility to find files faster
[20:09] <TotalOblivionc> hello! I want to intall a chm viewer at ubuntu 10.04. Any idea how?
[20:09] <pfifo> chalcedony, of course youll need to replace chalcedony with his username
[20:09] <chalcedony> pfifo, *smile* - yes that wasn't the scary part
[20:10] <bazhang> TotalOblivionc, apt-cache search chm suggests a few
[20:10] <chalcedony> pfifo, should we check how much room he has on that hd first?
[20:10] <gr33n7007h> apt-get install gnochm
[20:10] <TotalOblivionc> bazhang: and after that sudo apt-get install <name> right?
[20:10] <bazhang> TotalOblivionc, yep
[20:10] <pfifo> chalcedony, ther is no copying or deleting, all your doing is renaming /home/chalcedony to /home/old
[20:10] <TotalOblivionc> bazhang: thanks a lot man! :)
[20:10] <gr33n7007h> apt-get install chmsee
[20:11] <Chaitanya> can you suggest any file finding utilty that works faster than find command
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> !find chm
[20:11] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, it installs the modules in /usr/lib/uname -r so get your kernel to where it can boot and then configure the way you want
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Chaitanya: locate
[20:12] <Chaitanya> locate cannot find files by size, date, etc
[20:12] <chalcedony> *hugs* ActionParsnip :)) good to see you
[20:12] <csongor> hello!
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: howdy :-)
[20:12] <chalcedony> :)
[20:13] <csongor> Somebody can hlp me please?
[20:13] <Chaitanya> locate is faster than find command response but it cannot find files by size, date, etc.
[20:13] <Pici> !ask | Chaitanya
[20:13] <Pici> Chaitanya: sorry, mistab.
[20:13] <Pici> csongor: Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[20:13] <bazhang> csongor, with what
[20:14] <spych102> auronandace: the proprietary amd/ati driver has done the trick for zenbound2
[20:14] <auronandace> csongor: you'd need to explain your problem to get help
[20:14] <Chaitanya> sorry
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Chaitanya: you can pipe the results of locate to other commands to get size and date...
[20:14] <auronandace> spych102: awesome, well done
[20:14] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, According to the makefile it installs it as: MODLIB  = $(INSTALL_MOD_PATH)/lib/modules/$(KERNELRELEASE). And /usr/lib/modules contains both 2.6.38 (stock ubuntu) and my own 2.6.39-sandbox directories with only the crypto modules in it. I'll just 'make modules' and hope for the best. :/
[20:15] <spych102> auronandace: and it looks like the drivers are better than they were with my hardware
[20:16] <spych102> auronandace: thanks for your help
[20:16] <Chaitanya> can you give any example of piping the results of locate to any other command. I have done this find $(locate -d external.db "this is my file.txt"). But it doesn't print file names with spaces or special character
[20:16] <belgianguy> okay, so I cleaned out the partition I no longer need
[20:16] <chalcedony> pfifo, after we do this, what do we need to do?
[20:16] <davide_at_debian> quit
[20:16] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, wait was make modules_install your first make command? that would explain everything
[20:16] <auronandace> spych102: no worries :)
[20:16] <belgianguy> there's only System Volume Information left
[20:17] <belgianguy> how much of a danger would it be to delete it and reclaim the space through GParted?
[20:17] <pfifo> chalcedony, after wards, all your files will need to be moved from /home/old back into your new directory. youll want to omit configuration files that you absolutly do not need
[20:18] <CharminTheMoose> pfifo, nope. I did 'make', built the kernel + modules. Then I went to do 'make modules_install'.. and the kernel only installs those crypto modules.. Despite the kernel building nearly everything as a module.
[20:18] <V_PauAmma_V> Trying to troubleshoot a NIS/NFS problem, got it narrowed down to "something's wrong with my NIS setup" (ypcat on master server can't display passwd.byname), but nothing in config files looks obviously wrong to me. Details in http://paste.ubuntu.com/891212/ including /var/log/syslog excerpts. Which configuration file(s) should I blame?
[20:18] <pfifo> CharminTheMoose, ahh, then n/m
[20:18] <chalcedony> pfifo, i made a space on his 2nd hard drive to back it up to- would that help or not?
[20:18] <mcb_1> belgianguy: If you delete a partition, all files are lost. Only by a  backup restore will you see the files again. It is an important system partition, you can make all the system unusable.....
[20:18] <pfifo> chalcedony, that is not needed
[20:19] <CharminTheMoose> Cheers. :)
[20:19] <belgianguy> mcb_1, I double checked, and made a backup^of what was on it (only pictures)
[20:19] <csongor> I isntalled ubuntu 10.10 mini cd and i want to create my own ubuntu without any programs i don't need. I installed a minimal gnome without any themes and i want to install ubuntu software center but the shell say's i must insall any dependecies and these dependencies dont i can't isntall these dependencies
[20:19] <belgianguy> but it's just a partition, not a whole HDD
[20:19] <chalcedony> pfifo, i see - let's see what happens :)
[20:19] <belgianguy> so I don't know how Windows will take the change
[20:19] <auronandace> !remaster | csongor
[20:19] <belgianguy> I'm in Ubuntu atm
[20:20] <mcb_1> If it only image, should be pretty safe..... As long as you alny mess with this partition and no other....
[20:20] <Pici> n
[20:20] <csongor> THX
[20:21] <doherty> What does adduser's --system option do? How is a system user different from a regular one?
[20:22] <metasansana> doherty: system users don't need home folders
[20:22] <mcb_1> belgianguy: Just to be sure. You are messing in a Windows partiotion? If so, I cant be sure what will happen, it can be safe it is not the windows system partition, but this is what i think, i dont know for sure.....
[20:24] <belgianguy> mcb_1, I can't see any Windows folder in the other partitions of this HDD
[20:24] <belgianguy> my swap space is in the partition I want to delete though
[20:24] <belgianguy> but that shouldn't be a problem, right?
[20:25] <MrHanjrah> !ping
[20:25] <chalcedony> can someone pfifo? remind me please of the command line command to reboot ?
[20:26] <MrHanjrah> chalcedony: to reboot the pc?
[20:26] <mcb_1> belgianguy: I never used a system without swap, and i must think that you can get problems if you use too much RAM and need to use swap space. It is not a good idea not to have a swap area.
[20:26] <MrHanjrah> as root, reboot
[20:26] <chalcedony> MrHanjrah, yes
[20:26] <belgianguy> I know, but I have 2 GB, which should be sufficient
[20:26] <chalcedony> ty
[20:26] <belgianguy> and I plan on reallocating swap space once the old NTFS partition is gone
[20:27] <mcb_1> belgianguy: Nevertheless, you shoud do $swapoff before you start messing with the this partition.
[20:27] <pfifo> chalcedony, i use `sudo init 6`
[20:27] <belgianguy> can I just "enlarge" my EXT4 partition?
[20:27] <belgianguy> ah, thanks
[20:27] <goddard> how can i remove the "chat" link from my notification thing ... i removed empathy and installed pidgin.
[20:27] <chalcedony> pfifo, thanks sudo reboot worked - it was at the login in the gui and i did your command via ssh .. let's see now
[20:27] <belgianguy> swap is off
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> mcb_1: you need swap for hibernate etc
[20:28] <trism> goddard: the chat item will disappear once you restart the indicators (so log in/log out should do it)
[20:28] <goddard> oh.. ok let me give it a shot
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Goddard: so make pidgin not use notifications?
[20:29] <mcb_1> ActionParsnip: But he want only to rezise the partition. So i think that a swapoff, resize end then swapon should be no problem. Whatt you think?
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> mcb_1: sounds fine if that is the plan :-)
[20:30] <belgianguy> ActionParsnip, that is the plan
[20:30] <belgianguy> I'm just wondering if Windows will accept that change as well
[20:30] <belgianguy> or if it'll cr*p itself if it can't find it
[20:31] <mcb_1> belgianguy: If you told is right, and that is your Linux swap partition, Windows will not even know that something has changed.
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: too much swap, so shrink swap then turn swap back on. With 2Gb RAM it should be ok
[20:31] <belgianguy> yeah, but the swap is only part of it, I'll upload a pic so I'm double sure
[20:31] <belgianguy> because I've broken it once
[20:32] <belgianguy> and it took me days to get it all back up
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: take a backup first
[20:32] <tbruff13>  can anyone help me figure out what package Kubuntu power manager is so i can update a bug report
[20:32] <tbruff13> this is in 12.04
[20:33] <auronandace> tbruff13: 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1 until released
[20:33] <tbruff13> auronandace: i know but i assume the package name is the same as in other versions
[20:34] <mcb_1> belgianguy: You cant have something else in the same partition as the Linux Swap....... Can you?????? I never heard of it. You may have more than partition on the same disk, but a Linux Swap Partition will be only good for that and nothing else. As far as i can tell. Please tell me otherwise.
[20:34] <auronandace> tbruff13: dangerous to make assumtions
[20:34] <tbruff13> auronandace: i am waiting in that channel
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: still in #ubuntu+1 til release please
[20:34] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip: ok
[20:34] <tbruff13> sorry
[20:34] <belgianguy> mcb_1, true, I'm uploadin a pic of GParted
[20:35] <chalcedony> pfifo, where is 'home/old' ? it doesn't show in ls
[20:36] <pfifo> chalcedony, its /home/old not home/old
[20:36] <auronandace> chalcedony: you mean /home/old
[20:36] <chalcedony> ok .. looking
[20:36] <belgianguy> http://i39.tinypic.com/w0ial1.png
[20:36] <belgianguy> the big part on the right should go/shrink
[20:36] <belgianguy> but it contains the swap (red)
[20:37] <belgianguy> the left blue part is the current Ubuntu allocated space
[20:37] <dysun> i have a pcie 4 port serial card. everytime i login i have to insmod to get the driver to work. is there a way i can get the card to work without using the insmod command?
[20:37] <V_PauAmma_V> (need to go, will ask again later or tomorrow)
[20:37] <BigR> hey, hwo can i install usenext and start the webserver via SSH ???
[20:37] <belgianguy> which is running out
[20:37] <Cache_Money> I'm attempting to install Ubuntu on a new laptop, it is already partitioned, however, the /dev/sda4 that I want to install it on has 'no root file system defined'.  sda2 is ntfs,
[20:37] <Cache_Money> I'm within the Ubuntu installer, do I change/delete/revert the sda4 partition?
[20:38] <chalcedony> pfifo, oh ok goody! now i see them!
[20:38] <auronandace> Cache_Money: you need to pick a partition to use as /
[20:38] <chalcedony> pfifo, cp (or mv) directory > what?
[20:39] <pfifo> chalcedony, are you able to log in I assume?
[20:39] <njaxx> Is there a guide or how to tips for hardening and securing an Ubuntu server, exposed to the internet, in the cloud?
[20:39] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  I want to use sda4.
[20:39] <Cache_Money> /dev/sda4
[20:39] <chalcedony> pfifo, yes logged in with my husband's login in the gui :)
[20:39] <auronandace> Cache_Money: what filesystem is on sda4?
[20:40] <Cache_Money> auronandace   /dev/sda
[20:40] <chalcedony> pfifo, but like we all know, command line is faster ;)
[20:40] <auronandace> Cache_Money: what filesystem, ext4?
[20:40] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  how do I find that?  I'm within the Ubuntu installer currently
[20:41] <auronandace> Cache_Money: show us a screenshot
[20:41] <john__> hey guys, i isntalled ubuntu in vmware, how do i install the vmware program so I can have shared folders?
[20:41] <pfifo> chalcedony, good, now there is a file (or directory) in that /home/old that is causing the problem, you dont want to move that back over or else the problem will reappear. So youll want to move stuff one directory (or file) at a time.
[20:41] <john__> i clicked install vmware tools and it mounted, but when i try to open the virtual cd drive it tells me
[20:41] <john__> not authorized
[20:41] <chalcedony> pfifo, yes i understand :)
[20:41] <nibbler_> john__, open it as root?
[20:41] <mcb_1> belgianguy:look my private msg. I will try to write a lot there.
[20:41] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  imagebinl.org/204252
[20:41] <john__> nibbler_: how
[20:42] <Cache_Money> *imagebin.org/204252
[20:42] <pfifo> chalcedony, its safe to say is in a hidden directory or file (something starting with a .) and it obivously isnt your photos and personal files.
[20:42] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  sorry.  http://imagebin.org/204252
[20:42] <auronandace> Cache_Money: you need to format it
[20:42] <pfifo> chalcedony, I recommend using nautilus to move stuff little by little testing along the way.
[20:43] <chalcedony> pfifo, that makes sense, yes - except that Adobe 9 thing.. he's going to have to find something else to do with pdfs.
[20:43] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  I'm currently booted off a USB.  Do I need to go back into Windows to do that or can I do it from the Ubuntu installer?
[20:43] <pfifo> !info evince | chalcedony
[20:43] <auronandace> Cache_Money: select sda4 and press the change button
[20:43] <gr33n7007h> Cache_Money, mkfs.ext3 -b 4096 /dev/sda4
[20:44] <moonunitzappa> Anyone know of a alternitive to cs3 adobe flash for linux?
[20:44] <chalcedony> pfifo, i would have thought so too.. dunno for what he wanted Adobe- maybe to write to pdfs?
[20:44] <auronandace> gr33n7007h: no need to complicate matters, he can do it from the installer
[20:44] <gr33n7007h> auronandace, sorry
[20:44] <chalcedony> and pfifo my initial question is where am i copying things TO?
[20:45] <auronandace> moonunitzappa: don't hurt me for suggesting this: gimp
[20:45] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  should I use as: Ext3 journaling file system ?
[20:45] <Cache_Money> gre33n7007h:  Should I run that command from the terminal?
[20:45] <auronandace> Cache_Money: or ext4 yes, and make it / as the mountpoint
[20:45] <wonderman> hi, can someone tell me if the latest drivers frmo jockey support nvidia 630m ?
[20:46] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  which do you suggest?  ext3 or ext4?
[20:46] <pfifo> chalcedony, to the new home directory.
[20:46] <levitsky> gaiieeez
[20:46] <auronandace> Cache_Money: i use ext4, its the default
[20:46] <chalcedony> pfifo, ok and how can i test them in nautilus?
[20:46] <levitsky> does ubuntu work on i686?
[20:46] <wylde> chalcedony: hiya! getting all sorted out I hope.
[20:46] <chalcedony> wylde, good day to you :)
[20:47] <chalcedony> wylde, what a long strange trip it's been ;)
[20:47] <auronandace> Cache_Money: also 512gb is rather big for your ubuntu partition, planning on using up all that space?
[20:47]  * Cache_Money is formatting his hard drive
[20:47] <pfifo> chalcedony, it really doesnt matter, you could leave them in /home/old if you wanted, or move them to the backup partition you wanted. You dont test in nautilus, every so ofte log out and back in to make sure you did copy the bad configs over
[20:47] <wylde> chalcedony: no doubt, I imagine you needed to do a re-install of the OS?
[20:47] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  No, but the laptop came with 1TB hard drive..
[20:47] <Mongoose> how do I tell if a usb port on front of my computer is working and what the number is?
[20:47] <moonunitzappa> auronandace, I  use gimp for img editing didnt know if could do f lash
[20:47] <pfifo> wylde, no
[20:48] <chalcedony> wylde, umm no.. moved home!
[20:48] <moonunitzappa> Totally new to flash, have no idea where to begin
[20:48] <auronandace> moonunitzappa: oh, flash, sorry misunderstood you
[20:48] <wylde> chalcedony:  excellent! Glad you're getting sorted out :)
[20:49] <BobSapp> is this the right room to talk about Description:Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS nvidia drivers breaking?
[20:49] <dlentz> wonderman, don't install nvidia drivers
[20:49] <chalcedony> wylde pfifo i can't tell you how much i appreciate your help! - give me a few to explain it to my husband (in writing)
[20:49] <chalcedony> thank you a LOT!
[20:49] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  What does this  mean? http://imagebin.org/204257
[20:49] <auronandace> moonunitzappa: flash is made by adobe so i don't know of any open source flash editors (if thats what you call them)
[20:49] <dlentz> wonderman, gt630m is an optimus/hybrid design, so you need bumblebee/ironhide drivers
[20:49] <BobSapp> auronandace: openlaszlo can build flash files from a custom xml format
[20:50] <BobSapp> but flash is an outdated technology anyway these days, its all about html5
[20:50] <Mongoose> how do i tell what ports are in use?
[20:50] <BobSapp> Mongoose: sudo netstat -vatnp
[20:50] <Mongoose> tnx
[20:50] <wonderman> dlentz: can you explain more?
[20:50] <BobSapp> the p on the end tells you what program is running on what port
[20:51] <auronandace> Cache_Money: it means you need to recreate the partition
[20:51] <wonderman> i am getting a kernel error on boot, i am getting round it with 'nomodeset' as i used to have problems with an older laptop and this worked before
[20:51] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  I deleted the partition and I'm creating a new one with EXT4.  Should the 'type for the new partition:' be Primary or Logical ?
[20:51] <auronandace> Cache_Money: delete that partition and make a new one in that space
[20:51] <Cache_Money> Logical is default
[20:51] <esmirlin> is anyone using gnome shell instead of unity?
[20:51] <auronandace> Cache_Money: stick with logical
[20:51] <wired_> esmirlin: yes
[20:52] <esmirlin> wired_: which version?
[20:52] <esmirlin> and how do you have it configured?
[20:52] <wired_> i'm actually not sure what version - my girlfriend has my laptop at the moment
[20:52] <wired_> configured in what way?
[20:52] <moonunitzappa> im using 10:10 with gnome
[20:52] <esmirlin> i want a full gnome shell experience but it seems ubuntu doesn't want the last things from them hehe
[20:52] <ChrisFromTheBay> Hey guys. I'm trying to view a local PHP file in Firefox, and have the PHP actually execute. On windows there's a program called WAMP, which allows you to do this. Is there something like this in Ubuntu? I'm a little new to Linux...
[20:53] <moonunitzappa> lamp
[20:53] <moonunitzappa> ChrisFromTheBay,
[20:53] <esmirlin> wired_: like scrollbars and global menus from unity, do you have them or removed them?
[20:53] <kbrosnan> the first *amp!
[20:53] <ChrisFromTheBay> :)
[20:53] <wired_> i kept them
[20:53] <wired_> do you want a screenshot?
[20:53] <esmirlin> please
[20:54] <esmirlin> hehe
[20:54] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  what is swap space?  http://imagebin.org/204259
[20:54] <esmirlin> i just find something weird with the global menu
[20:54] <esmirlin> when i launch an app it hides for a second the global menu until it reappears again
[20:54] <esmirlin> that's ennoying
[20:54] <auronandace> Cache_Money: if you p;an on hibernating you will need at least the same amount of swap as ram
[20:54] <auronandace> plan
[20:54] <ChrisFromTheBay> kbrosnan: Should I install Apache, or something?
[20:55] <josvuk> How to boot ubuntu without Xorg? I know this can be done .... think it has something to do with grub
[20:55] <kbrosnan> apache, php, mysql
[20:55] <kbrosnan> yeah
[20:55] <wired_> esmirlin: i sent you a PM
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[20:56] <chalcedony> [16:48:59] <BobSapp> is this the right room to talk about Description:Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS nvidia drivers breaking?
[20:56] <chalcedony> [16:49:00] <dlentz> wonderman, don't install nvidia drivers
[20:56] <FloodBot1> chalcedony: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:56] <chalcedony> [16:49:04] <chalcedony> wylde pfifo i can't tell you how much i appreciate your help! - give me a few to explain it to my husband (in writing)
[20:56] <kbrosnan> ChrisFromTheBay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP might be a bit dated but gives the basics
[20:56] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  I have 8gb of SSD.  How do I link it to the partition?
[20:56] <wonderman> does anyone have a good guide on installing opitmus drivers on ubuntu ? a very up-to-date one, ie 2012?
[20:56] <auronandace> Cache_Money: what? ssd means solid state drive, ram is your memory
[20:57] <ChrisFromTheBay> thanks kbrosnan
[20:57] <kbrosnan> ChrisFromTheBay: https://www.google.com/search?q=lamp+ubuntu+11.10 as well
[20:58] <auronandace> Cache_Money: most partition setups consist of a / partition and a swap partition, if you don't plan to hibernate you don't need the swap partition
[20:58] <chalcedony> husband still looks like i killed his best friend.
[20:58] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  I want to assign a swap partition to the 8gb SSD -- in case I need to hibernate.  It's unclear how to assign the swap partition
[20:59] <Cache_Money> unless it's going to mess things up since I'm dual booting
[20:59] <auronandace> Cache_Money: you make a partition just like you did with the new ext4 partition you made
[20:59] <auronandace> Cache_Money: its just a different file system:swap
[21:00] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  Ubuntu installer doesn't give me that option..  Oh well, sounds too difficult
[21:00] <auronandace> Cache_Money: msdos partitioned drives support 4 primary partitions, to use more than 4 you need to have an extended  partition into which you can make multiple logical partitions
[21:01] <belgianguy> anyone know how I could safely expand sdb4 in this scenario: http://i39.tinypic.com/w0ial1.png
[21:01] <auronandace> Cache_Money: you can't make more partitions if you don't have unallocated space
[21:02] <belgianguy> sdb3 can go, I've turned swap off and sdb5 is empty now
[21:02] <glacier> SASL Enable
[21:02] <auronandace> belgianguy: resize sda5 then move the swap and then resize sda3 then resize sda4
[21:03] <Cache_Money> auronandace:  that makes sense.  I doubt I'd use hibernation anyway
[21:03] <belgianguy> auronandace, and would I need to update GRUB (this is a dual boot machine)
[21:03] <auronandace> Cache_Money: ok, i don't either so i don't have a swap partition
[21:03] <j0bi> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: gconf2 (>= 2.28.1-2)   trying to install deepin-scrot to ubuntu 10.04
[21:04] <auronandace> belgianguy: i don't think so
[21:04] <auronandace> belgianguy: unless you are removing/adding operating systems then no
[21:04] <j0bi> gconf2 is installed
[21:05] <belgianguy> auronandace, no I'm not adding or removing OS'es, but sdb4 is the one that is running Ubuntui
[21:05] <belgianguy> can I resize it while it's "in use"?
[21:05] <bazhang> belgianguy, no
[21:05] <auronandace> belgianguy: no, you will need to do it from a livecd or other install
[21:06] <belgianguy> I have created a live USB some time ago
[21:06] <root> hi
[21:06] <mdpatrick> Varnish keeps giving a 503 error whenever I'm trying to send a large upload (several hundred mess) to my web server over http… can anyone help me understand whats going on? heres the relevant log section… http://pastebin.com/uNYY8mws
[21:06] <auronandace> belgianguy:  you can only resize partitions when they are unmounted
[21:06] <belgianguy> auronandace, yeah, thought as much
[21:07] <guntbert> Guest25129: don't irc as root - don#t do any day to day work as root
[21:07] <j0bi> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: gconf2 (>= 2.28.1-2) trying to install deepin-scrot to ubuntu 10.04
[21:07] <belgianguy> It'll have to wait then, I was planning on freeing up some space for the new Ubuntu
[21:07] <belgianguy> because it already complains each time when it updates :/
[21:08] <belgianguy> but then expanding my Ubuntu set up will take some more planning ;)
[21:09] <belgianguy> but thanks for outlining it for me, I understand how and what I should do
[21:09] <lion42> belgianguy, if you're going to be installing two copies of ubuntu alongside eachother on the same disc, you shouldn't need to "manually" repartition. If you can use the regular installer, you can use that to tell it how much of your current ubuntu partition you want to "take away" for the new install. Or am I misunderstanding what you are trying to do?
[21:09] <swarze> ciao
[21:09] <Guest25129> root
[21:09] <swarze> !list
[21:09] <Guest25129> ?
[21:10] <auronandace> lion42: check his partitions
[21:10] <lion42> Guest25129, it seems like you're logged in as the administrator of your computer. This makes you more vulnerable than if you are logged in as a regular user. If this is your computer, log out and log back in as your regular user account- not as root.
[21:11] <lion42> I didn't even know users could ordinarly login as root on plain-old-ubuntu?
[21:11] <auronandace> lion42: its disabled by default
[21:11] <pfifo> how bout that, I can log in as root on your computer too :)
[21:12] <josvuk> How can I boot wihtout X11?
[21:12] <andrew_wmf> ^ super soaker
[21:12] <auronandace> !text | josvuk
[21:12] <andrew_wmf> my answer was funnier
[21:12] <Guest25129> *Black_risker
[21:13] <Guest25129> Black_risker
[21:13] <Guest25129> you here
[21:13] <Guest25129> Black_risker
[21:13] <pfifo> !seen Black_risker
[21:13] <lion42> Guest25129, there's no user here by that name.
[21:14] <lion42> -NickServ- black_risker is not registered.
[21:14] <Guest25129> we hackerx
[21:14] <Guest25129> hackerz
[21:14] <lion42> ...
[21:14] <lion42> rofl.
[21:14] <ChrisFromTheBay> you took a risk coming here...
[21:15] <lion42> Man, I was hoping that entertainment would continue.
[21:15] <triscuit> I'm downloading 12.04 .. so excite
[21:15] <mrmcgibby> If I upgrade now to 12.04 beta, will I have to reinstall when the actual release happens?
[21:15] <BlueEagle> !ot
[21:15] <josvuk> Can I boot without X11 if I use yaboot?
[21:15] <Sidewinder1> He/she's gone
[21:15] <dlentz> !release | triscuit
[21:15] <auronandace> !final | mrmcgibby
[21:15] <dlentz> err yeah, i meant 'final'
[21:16] <wonderman> hi, i am trying to install bumblebee, can somebody tell me if this guide should work fine? http://www.ivegotavirus.com/blog/2012/01/23/installing-bumblebee-3-0-tumbleweed-on-ubuntu/
[21:16] <gggo> ubuntu or debian as a distro for someone who'd like to learn some stuff about linux? i fear ubuntu is going to spoonfeed too much.
[21:17] <OerHeks> wonderman, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee & the channel #Bumblebee
[21:17] <auronandace> gggo: slackware or linux from scratch, to learn true linux
[21:17] <ikonia> gggo: try them, see what you like
[21:17] <wonderman> thanks OerHeks
[21:17] <dlentz> wonderman, that looks right, but i don't personally have an optimus system
[21:17] <ikonia> gggo: if you can't even work out which distro to use, sounds like some spoon feeding will get you started
[21:18] <BlueEagle> gggo: I started out on Mandrake linux back in the days. I think that tinkering around with a pretty well out-of-the-box setup is a good place to start. After you get the hang of the basics you can move on. Then you can go to something like a server setup and build on that to suit yourself and then try Gentoo and LFS if you really want to sit and watch stuff compile.
[21:18]  * pfifo is building an LFS right now
[21:19] <dougmencken> hi
[21:20] <mrfunk> hello, according to this website http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ my ports are closed and i need to open some of them
[21:20] <dougmencken> I can launch alien arena game
[21:20] <josvuk> What starts Xorg in my configuration files?
[21:20] <auronandace> josvuk: gdm (11.04 and under) lightdm (11.10+)
[21:21] <mrfunk> i need to permanently open some ports as 445, could anyone help me out please?
[21:21] <pfifo> mrfunk, no you dont want to just open ports
[21:22] <mrfunk> pfifo: i really need it for this game i play, please help me man
[21:23] <imapiekindaguy> afternet.org
[21:23] <dr3mro> hello i am having issue with oneiric .. i cant switch users and only i can use the user that is autologin if i tried o switch users i only get black screen and i have to reboot to make it work again ,,,
[21:23] <OerHeks> mrfunk, few hours back you got many suggestions, open ports in your router, and open ports in your firewall
[21:23] <josvuk> where are the man pages from gdm?
[21:23] <pfifo> mrfunk, that site doesnt report the port as open unless there is something listening on the port
[21:24] <mrfunk> OerHeks: yea i know, the thing is i didnt really get it to work as expected, according to this site: http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ the ports are still closed, i need to permanently open (and being able to close them when i stop playing) some ports
[21:25] <mrfunk> pfifo: still, i need this game to have the ports open otherwise it doesnt work as expeted, i cannot play ladder games &/or host :\
[21:25] <pfifo> mrfunk, I recommend learning how to forward ports on your router and open ports on your firewall
[21:26] <mrfunk> pfifo: i already did that, and im using a modem..
[21:26] <pfifo> mrfunk, so then whats the problem?
[21:26] <mrfunk> maybe there is no way to do this in ubuntu?
[21:26] <jsebean> Hi
[21:26] <mrfunk> pfifo: i cannot host any games
[21:27] <pfifo> mrfunk, then you did something wrong
[21:27] <jsebean> We had a script on a server that caused the site get hacked how do I completely uninstall all phpmyadmin files in ubuntu and reinstall?
[21:28] <pfifo> jsebean, if you got haced you need to format everything and reinstall the OS
[21:28] <mrfunk> pfifo: i already tried everything, i disabled the firewall, added the rules to allow in from 6112 to 6119 and still
[21:28] <triscuit> Does anyone have experience with the unity dock in 12.04?
[21:28] <OerHeks> mrfunk sounds like your provider does not allow running a service, do they?
[21:28] <OerHeks> mrfunk they closed port 1-1024?
[21:28] <mrfunk> OerHeks: yes they do
[21:28] <pfifo> mrfunk, in that case you ISP is blocking those port, theres nothing you can do about that
[21:28] <dr3mro> hello i am having issue with oneiric .. i cant switch users and only i can use the user that is autologin if i tried o switch users i only get black screen and i have to reboot to make it work again ,,,
[21:29] <mrfunk> pfifo: my isp is not blocking any ports man
[21:29] <TorbenBeta> How can I write in a shell script, that a process should be put on hold?
[21:29] <krusty> !list
[21:29] <pfifo> mrfunk, well then... you did something wrong
[21:29] <OerHeks> mrfunk, disable your firewall temporarely and see if the ports are open?
[21:30] <Cache_Money> I just installed Ubuntu from USB, it told me I needed to restart.  However, after restarting it went straight into booting Windows.  How do I make it so I can choose which OS to boot?
[21:30] <mrfunk> OerHeks: i disabled the firewall and according to http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ the ports i need are still closed, although 445 is open
[21:31] <dlentz> Cache_Money, you need to install grub, which installer should have done
[21:31] <Cache_Money> dlentz:  Hmm.. Do i need to change a setting in BIOS?
[21:31] <OerHeks> mrfunk, a) your modem has its own firewall-rules, or b) you are not allowed to use ports 1-1024
[21:32] <dlentz> Cache_Money, http://askubuntu.com/questions/24479/no-grub-after-installing-ubuntu-10-10-beside-windows-7-straight-to-windows#24486
[21:33] <mrfunk> OerHeks: i used to host with this modem, and my isp doesnt have any rules regarding ports
[21:33] <bean> maybe they do now
[21:33] <bean> and didnt before.
[21:33] <bean> and / or your router has firewall setup
[21:34] <mrfunk> bean bro i dont use a router
[21:34] <bean> ah, sry "bro"
[21:34] <OerHeks> mrfunk then it makes no sence. firewall down, no modem-firewall ...
[21:35] <Zaitzev> evening folks
[21:36] <bean> mrfunk, are you connected to IRC from that connection?
[21:36] <pfifo> mrfunk, are you testing your ports with the game running?
[21:36] <user_> hi
[21:36] <mrfunk> bean: yep, pfifo nope gonna give it  a try, brb
[21:36] <pfifo> mrfunk, well duh, nothing using a port = port closed
[21:37] <bean> "bro" thinks he knows what he's talking about imo.
[21:37] <bean> his port 6112 is open now
[21:37] <Zaitzev> all of a sudden i've started getting these purple pixels all over the place, randomly
[21:37] <user_> ldldlldldl
[21:37] <Zaitzev> playing videos, on certain parts of the desktop..
[21:38] <pfifo> Zaitzev, try turning off video overlay
[21:38] <Zaitzev> ?
[21:38] <Zaitzev> it wasn't like this last night
[21:38] <mrfunk> pfifo: you were right, i opened the game, tried to host and one of the 8 ports i need to host was open, still no luck with hosting :\
[21:38] <dlentz> Zaitzev, so what changed, any system updates, etc?
[21:38] <Zaitzev> this started randomly just recently
[21:39] <matt_symes> TorbenBeta: Check out kill with SIGSTOP, SIGCONT and pgrep
[21:39] <Zaitzev> I have no idea how either, I haven't done anything in particular
[21:39] <Zaitzev> I have tried resetting unity, rebooted, no change
[21:39] <bean> mrfunk, is this for warcraft3?
[21:39] <pfifo> mrfunk, good, and we cant help you with the games internal problems, youll have to contact the developer or distrubitor
[21:39] <dlentz> Zaitzev, have you tried a livecd or other OS?
[21:39] <mrfunk> bean: yea
[21:40] <mrfunk> pfifo: its weird because it used to work, maybe the game is fuckd up then :\
[21:40] <Zaitzev> dlentz: not yet no, was hoping it could be resolved before doing anything "drastic"
[21:40] <dr3mro> please help me with light dm fail with black screen
[21:40] <pfifo> !language | mrfunk
[21:40] <mrfunk> pfifo: what bothers me is that others can host right now and i cannot
[21:40] <Zaitzev> dlentz, here's a short videoclip of how it looks like: http://speedy.sh/fvUtP/IMG-0133.MOV
[21:40] <dlentz> trying a livecd/usb won't change anything and is good to rule out hardware failure
[21:40] <mrfunk> pfifo: sorry sorry sorry
[21:41] <bean> mrfunk, i was able to see port 6112 open up for you. and that's really the only one that is needed for Wc3
[21:41] <bean> mrfunk, unless you changed settings for your hosting port in the options
[21:41] <mrfunk> bean, is that the only port?
[21:42] <pfifo> mrfunk, maybe your banned from hosting due to cheating?
[21:42] <bean> mrfunk, http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/firewall-configuration-for-blizzard-games#q-4
[21:42] <dlentz> Zaitzev, I'd also double-check the cable and make sure it's toght
[21:42] <mrfunk> pfifo: lol nope, it wouldnt let me even start to play, as soon as i get to the game and the host has to be resolved bam
[21:42] <Zaitzev> dlentz: it is, that's the first thing I checked hehe
[21:44] <pfifo> mrfunk, pastebin the output of `ip addr`
[21:44] <mrfunk> thank you bean, everything seems to be clear now, the server is not working properly maybe?
[21:44] <mrfunk> pfifo: okay
[21:44] <ChrisFromTheBay> I've had issues with WC3 on PC too...
[21:44] <ChrisFromTheBay> good game though
[21:44] <mrfunk> http://pastebin.com/ibssMTJp
[21:45] <Krambiorix> hi guys, in which channel should i be for virtualbox?
[21:45] <Zaitzev> dlentz: The "Additional Drivers" dialog, which of the two choices should I use? There's "Recommended" and "version current-updates" to choose from. The "Recommended" is active and has been since day 1
[21:45] <codeshah> hey guys exec: 34: /lib/init/upstart-job: not found
[21:45] <guntbert> Krambiorix: #vbox
[21:45] <codeshah> … anyone seen this? I cant start sshd
[21:45] <codeshah> ubuntu 10.04
[21:45] <Krambiorix> thx!
[21:46] <mrfunk> ChrisFromTheBay: yea man, do you have any tips for this issue?
[21:46] <bean> mrfunk, are you on dialup? o.o
[21:47] <Cache_Money> dlentz:  I went through this tutorial and it still boots straight into Windows  http://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows
[21:47] <mrfunk> bean: dsl with a modem, i have a username and password..
[21:47] <guntbert> codeshah: try   sudo service ssh start
[21:47] <ChrisFromTheBay> mrfunk: if you have PeerGuardian, it can block Blizzard ips
[21:47] <codeshah> guntbert: unknown service ssh
[21:47] <codeshah> hmm
[21:47] <Cache_Money> dlentz:  is there a difference between GRUB and GRUB2?
[21:48] <mrfunk> ChrisFromTheBay: i dont seem to have it
[21:48] <OerHeks> guntbert, codeshah sudo service sshd start
[21:48] <codeshah> hmm… sshd: unrecognized service
[21:49] <codeshah> should I uninstall openssh-server and reinstall?
[21:49] <guntbert> codeshah:  what does apt-cache policy  ssh-server say?
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> Cache_Money  of course, or there would be need to rename it => point 2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[21:49] <guntbert> OerHeks: wrong, alas :-)
[21:49] <codeshah> ssh-server, installed: (none), candidate (none), version table empty
[21:49] <bean> mrfunk, your connection could just be too slow to host.
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> no need*
[21:49] <bean> mrfunk, / i wouldn't try to host on that slow of a connection
[21:50] <dlentz> Cache_Money, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy_LiveCD_Files
[21:50] <codeshah> guntbert: something wrong with install? uninstall it?
[21:50] <dlentz> sorry, i should have been more specific
[21:50] <bean> I also don't know how well hosting a windows game on a linux box would work, mrfunk
[21:50] <guntbert> codeshah: no, the service is named ssh
[21:50] <mrfunk> bean: i used to host with 1/4 of this without any delay man
[21:50] <dlentz> Zaitzev, if the recommended driver worked, then try reinstalling it
[21:50] <codeshah> guntbert: any ideas what should I do?
[21:51] <guntbert> codeshah: I'm searching
[21:52] <oCean> guntbert: codeshah package is openssh-server     apt-cache policy openssh-server
[21:52] <bean> mrfunk, can you connect to battle.net at all?
[21:52] <guntbert> oCean: thx,
[21:52] <jaha> how do i control an upstart job without sudo
[21:52] <jaha> EX: start foojob, stop foojob
[21:52] <jaha> i added the setuid and setgid but no go
[21:52] <codeshah> installed: 1:5.3p1-3ubuntu7 candidate (same)
[21:53] <codeshah> guntbert: letm e paste somewhere sec
[21:53] <bean> mrfunk, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3126 says that you need to get a patched version of WINE
[21:53] <guntbert> !paste | codeshah
[21:53] <codeshah> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/891383/
[21:53] <mrfunk> bean: yes, as soon as i enter any ladder games that I have to host i get disconnected immediately, if the other player is hosting i can play, also i cannot seem to be able to host any custom games
[21:54] <dr3mro> please help me i can't switch users , when I switch users i get blank screen and i have to reboot
[21:54] <bean> mrfunk, what version of wine are you running?
[21:54] <codeshah> guntbert: I get exec: 34: /lib/init/upstart-job: not found … when trying to run it from /etc/init.d … I wonder why. upstart-job shouldn't be missing
[21:54] <drounse> is the method of booting an .img different than booting an .iso
[21:55] <codeshah> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/839764
[21:55] <mrfunk> 1.3.28
[21:55] <mrfunk> bean: 1.3.28
[21:55] <bean> mrfunk, you need to upgrade your WINE
[21:55] <bean> mrfunk, you need at least 1.3.4
[21:56] <diskinetic> my display chops off the bottom and top of the screen.
[21:56] <bean> err, nvm, mrfunk
[21:57] <guntbert> codeshah: the problem (in my eyes) is that we are in the middle of a migration from sysv to upstart - and very often cannot know which mechanism will work
[21:57] <mrfunk> bean: what should i do then?
[21:57] <dlentz> bean, there was no wine 1.3.40
[21:57] <codeshah> guntbert: sorry can you elaborate? sysv to upstart?
[21:57] <bean> dlentz, i said 1.3.4, not 40
[21:57] <bean> and i was wrong.
[21:57] <codeshah> guntbert: should I maybe install an older openssh version?
[21:57] <bean> mrfunk, does your wine console show you any errors when you disconnect hosting?
[21:58] <red_> buenas
[21:58] <mrfunk> bean: fixme:winsock:WS2_async_accept AcceptEx accepting socket closed but request was not cancelled
[21:58] <guntbert> codeshah: not very important (sorry for the aside) - no installing another version will not help - my concern was that there are several ways to start a service
[21:58] <mrfunk> bean: i think that is what i need to fix
[21:59] <pfifo> why can't i remove lsb-release and lsb-core
[21:59] <ikonia> why do you want to ?
[21:59] <ikonia> they help identify ubuntu to the package manager and provide the base install
[22:00] <pfifo> because I dont like the lsb standard
[22:00] <guntbert> codeshah: lets start simple:    type  /etc/init.d/ssh status     (no sudo needed)
[22:01] <ikonia> pfifo: you don't like it ? in what way ?
[22:01] <gr33n7007h> service ssh status
[22:01] <ikonia> pfifo: you don't like the base components that are used to make up ubuntu ?
[22:01] <mrfunk> bean: i know that shouldnt be an issue but i keep seeing this message: fixme:winsock:WS2_async_accept AcceptEx accepting socket closed but request was not cancelled
[22:01] <mrfunk>  and people are not able to join the game
[22:02] <dlentz> mrfunk is it warcraft3?
[22:02] <diskinetic> my display does odd things indeed
[22:02] <mrfunk> dlentz: yes, frozen throne
[22:02] <diskinetic> it doesn't fit all the screen elements onscreen
[22:02] <codeshah> guntbert: sorry give me 1 sec...
[22:02] <kesi> Anybody know how to add a CPU and HDD temperature monitor to the unity top panel?
[22:02] <dlentz> there are 2 others complaining of that same error: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3126
[22:02] <codeshah> guntbert: I am on web console so a bit slow :(
[22:02] <Benkinooby2> hi, i am looking for benchamrks of different media players on ubuntu but my google-fu wasn't strong enough... anyone can send me a useful link? or show me a way to benchmark on my own?
[22:02] <guntbert> codeshah: no worries
[22:02] <pfifo> ikonia, its forcing me to operate my system in a predetermined fashion and eliminating the freedom ive come to expect from open source software.
[22:03] <bean> dlentz, mrfunk I wonder if it has to do with him being on ppp0 as opposed to eth0, though it shouldn't matter.
[22:03] <ikonia> pfifo: what are you talking about
[22:03] <pfifo> ikonia, i dont know
[22:03] <ikonia> pfifo: how is it stopping you doing anything ?
[22:03] <mrfunk> bean: i dont know either man
[22:03] <ikonia> pfifo: right - so stop making stuff up
[22:03] <ikonia> pfifo: it's not stopping you do anything
[22:04]  * pfifo stops fiddling with his cannocial branded handcufss and goes back to laboring in the salt mine
[22:05] <dlentz> bean, i would try the latest version of wine (1.4), and if that doesn't fix it, seek help from wine experts
[22:05] <bean> dlentz, agreed.
[22:05] <freddy> test
[22:05] <bean> mrfunk, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[22:05] <dlentz> freddy, ack
[22:06] <mrfunk> bean: im actually on linux mint man but its the same as ubuntu 11
[22:06] <freddy> i am u french newbe
[22:06] <codeshah> guntbert: agh web console is crashing sec :(
[22:06] <mrfunk> bean, dlentz how can i upgrade wine?
[22:06] <oCean> mrfunk: mint is not supported here, and for help with wine, please /join #winehq
[22:06] <diskinetic> I just want to say how much I love ubuntu
[22:07] <diskinetic> and my screen is jacked up
[22:07] <m1chael> i'm trying to burn a mpg to dvd using growisofs... the dvd skips in a dvd player, otherwise it plays fine. anyone have any suggestions for me?
[22:07] <szal> !mint | mrfunk
[22:07] <codeshah> rebooting system :(
[22:07] <mrfunk> oCean: yea i know man, but as its the same thing i thought you could help me out, im sorry for any inconvenience
[22:07] <nate_h> is there a way to make aptitude ignore gpg keys?
[22:07] <nate_h> i have some sources that don't have gpg keys that I need to ignore for testing purposes
[22:07] <OerHeks> mrfunk, mint has its own issues.
[22:07] <guntbert> codeshah: try again afterwards - but I'm on my way to bed -- Good luck :-)
[22:08] <dlentz> mrfunk, install wine1.3 package (actually, it's version 1.4) from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa
[22:08] <oCean> mrfunk: nope, it is not the same. #linuxmint-help is not on Freenode, but irc.spotchat.org fyi
[22:08] <thetinyjesus> anyone know how to get a nvidia GT310m card working 100%
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> mrfunk  mint is almost but not quite the same
[22:08] <Guest58281> forgive my insolence friends, but I was curious if there's a way to make Ubuntu 11.10 more Mac-like (than it already is.) As in, replace the Unity launcher with AWN while keeping the app-menu?
[22:08] <Guest58281> :D
[22:09] <mrfunk> i know please forgive me for what ive done i really dont want any trouble
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> Guest58281  there's an ubuntu based, mac-like distro, but that's not supported here
[22:09] <oCean> mrfunk: no problem at all
[22:09] <adac> I'm trying to remove an old kernel: http://pastebin.com/fTC1DvQr but I get an error. unfortunately my boot partition is full, so i cannot execute apt-get -f install. Any ideas?
[22:10] <Pumpkin-> nate_h: -o APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated I think from memory. If not that, something similar.
[22:10] <dlentz> thetinyjesus, if you've installed the driver, it should work "100%"
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> Guest58281  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:12] <OerHeks> thetinyjesus, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/658657, you need the x-swat ppa >> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[22:12] <Guest58281> MonkeyDust, thank you anyway.  I'll go see what I can find out in the offtopic channel.  Take care.
[22:12] <thetinyjesus> ubottu: thank you
[22:12] <dlentz> i didn't know 310m was a hybrid chip?
[22:13] <jeagle> Quick question, does anyone know how to install fonts for /usr/share/ghostscript/9.04/Resource/Font/ ? This is a Ghostscript issue. :(
[22:13] <thetinyjesus> OerHeks: thanks
[22:13] <jeagle> For some reason I keep getting "Unable to load times-roman font
[22:13] <jeagle> "
[22:14] <Praxi> are there any current light weight image editors?  similar to irfanview but without running wine?
[22:14]  * Sidewinder1 Thought that Times Roman was default in just about everything..
[22:14] <Praxi> gimp is nice and all, but its way too much
[22:15] <Benkinooby2> Praxi, there are progs with less functions too, ya know ;)
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> Praxi  gthumb
[22:15] <Sidewinder1> Praxi, F-spot?
[22:20] <dlentz> jeagle, did you try reinstalling gsfonts package?
[22:20] <Praxi> ok will take a look any you guys think are better/easier?
[22:20] <Praxi> f-spot or gthumb?
[22:20] <l33t911> Hello
[22:20] <jeagle> dlentz: Well, it wasn't originally on, so I just installed it, and still nothing. :(
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> Praxi  best way to find out, is trying
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> both
[22:20] <l33t911> RTFM
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> !rtfm| l33t911
[22:21] <l33t911> can I use Ok?
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> ok
[22:22] <l33t911> I think you should censor
[22:22] <l33t911> its your life
[22:22] <nate_h> hey
[22:22] <oCean> l33t911: do you have an actual support question?
[22:22] <nate_h> i'm running 2.7.12 in ubuntu
[22:22] <nate_h> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/puppet/ssl/key.rb:46:in `initialize': Neither PUB key nor PRIV key:: header too long (OpenSSL::PKey::RSAError)
[22:22] <nate_h> i'm sorry wrong chan
[22:22] <FloodBot1> nate_h: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <dlentz> jeagle, do you have /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts/n021003l.pfb
[22:25] <jeagle> dlentz: if that 31 is an L and not a 1 then yes. :P
[22:30] <dlentz> jeagle, i'm stumped, maybe try running update-gsfontmap
[22:30] <Praxi> hmm ok F-Spot and Gthumb are just light weight image viewers.  Heres what I like about irfanview.  I open it, hit ctrl V, and bam got my screenshot right there ready to work on.  It has a tool bar to draw lines and makes boxes for tutorial type screenshots.  Without being as advanded as gimp can anyone think of anything simple like that?
[22:30] <jeagle> dlentz: ok i'll try that! thanks :) I'll keep you informed. :)
[22:31] <satoshi_> Unity sucks!
[22:31] <fubsi> why?
[22:31] <oCean> satoshi_: this is not the right place for such rants.
[22:32] <Zaitzev> dlentz: Hey again. I'm on Windows now. The problem doesn't occur here at all, so it is definitely an Ubuntu issue.
[22:33] <satoshi_> Too long to find what you need with the search field...
[22:33] <dlentz> Zaitzev, that's good news
[22:33] <Zaitzev> in a way, it is
[22:34] <Zaitzev> at least it's not a hardware issue. I tried removing the nvidia driver, as well as installing the one I didn't use, and then back again. Nothing helped.
[22:34] <satoshi_> I installed back my Lucid.
[22:34] <Praxi> satoshi_, try gnome-do?
[22:34] <ripper_> I'm having issues with skype
[22:34] <ripper_> when someone tries to send me video it kills my session
[22:35] <ripper_> any ideas?
[22:35] <satoshi_> Me too ripper =)
[22:35] <ripper_> like it fully logs you out? ! satoshi_
[22:35] <Quantum_Ion> satoshi_, Why because of Unity ?
[22:35] <ripper_> i've tried using various window managers too
[22:35] <ripper_> and still zip
[22:35] <dlentz> !enter | ripper
[22:36] <ripper_> dlentz, sorry
[22:36] <satoshi_> Yes And because of sounds issues since i update my 11.04 to 11.10  64
[22:36] <ripper_> i'm using 12.04 if that helps
[22:36] <Quantum_Ion> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin)
[22:36] <Zaitzev> dlentz: I suspect Unity being the perp, but I can't say for sure.
[22:36] <dalek_> how do I get to a terminal? My PC won't boot after removing nvidia drivers.......
[22:36] <satoshi_> And many issues with flash plugins too.
[22:36] <jeagle> dlentz: This is the error I keep getting... "Can't find (or can't open) font file /usr/share/ghostscript/9.04/Resource/Font/Courier." does this for helvetica, and times-roman as well...
[22:36] <satoshi_> Yeah ripper.
[22:37] <dlentz> Zaitzev, then you hsould try some lightweight environment like lxde just to see
[22:37] <Zaitzev> dlentz: Uh, what?
[22:37] <fubsi> ripper_, 12.04 is still beta
[22:37] <dlentz> instead of using unity log in to lxde
[22:37] <Praxi> dalek_, ctrl alt F2?
[22:37] <Zaitzev> how do I do that exactly? choose at the login prompt or something?
[22:38] <satoshi_> Lot of trouble with gnome 3 and nvidia drivers.
[22:38] <fubsi> ripper_, wot do u get from the shell when u start skype from there?
[22:38] <Zaitzev> nvidia drivers are problematic regardless..
[22:39] <dalek_> ok I got a terminal... now I am getting command not found for nvidia-xconfig
[22:39] <Seryth> Hey all, quick question. I popped in a blank DVD, and dragged some .avi files onto it. Perfect, works great. However, I'd like to be able to re-name the disc? Atm it's just called "Blank DVD+R Disc" and I'd like to rename this...how can I do that easily?
[22:40] <tosh> alguien me podŕia echar la mano... recien bajé un archivo .jpg en ubuntu 11.10 se creo un icono de mundo en el panel inferior que es un enlace url a esa foto inernet y por mas que quiero no la puedo quitar o borrar del panel inferior??????????????
[22:40] <dlentz> Zaitzev, yes, but you need to install lxde first (sudo apt-get install  --no-install-recommends lxde)
[22:40] <CFHowlett_> !es|tosh
[22:40] <dalek_> I installed nvidia-current .....what else do I need to install to get nvidia drivers running again?
[22:40] <Quantum_Ion> Do you know if this is stable - > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[22:40] <Zaitzev> dlentz: I'm gonna boot into Ubuntu again soon, I'll try and remember it.
[22:40] <Quantum_Ion> Ubuntu Linux 12.04 LTS ?
[22:41] <Zaitzev> I'm probably gonna forget it, but heck.. :P
[22:41] <CFHowlett_> Quantum_Ion   it's beta.  *beta*!
[22:41] <dlentz> Quantum_Ion, not officially
[22:41] <Quantum_Ion> dlentz, CFHowlett_, okay
[22:41] <dlentz> Zaitzev, then just remember to install lxde package
[22:42] <Zaitzev> dlentz: yeah, but that whole no-recommend thing.. guess I should write it down. :p
[22:42] <diskinetic> my screen chops off some of the graphics of the desktop and has weird sizing issues
[22:43] <dalek_> I am getting nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[22:43] <fubsi> diskinetic, resolution of screen issue?
[22:43] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  type /join #ubuntu+1
[22:43] <diskinetic> I'm unsure
[22:44] <fubsi> diskinetic, have u changed screen already, did u try?
[22:44] <fubsi> i mean resolution
[22:44] <diskinetic> fubsi it worked well as a live usb, but the install chops up the screen
[22:44] <diskinetic> yes
[22:44] <ripper_> fubusi havent tried that
[22:45] <diskinetic> the resolutions change, but the screen loses about say a centimeter on each side
[22:45] <fubsi> ripper_, try to start from terminal and look wot he says after crash
[22:45] <diskinetic> btw, using xubuntu, if that helps
[22:45] <fubsi> diskinetic, sounds like screen problem, no?
[22:45] <ripper_> fubsi, thats the problem, after it crashes, so does X
[22:45] <Zaitzev> diskinetic: are you on single or multiple monitors?
[22:45] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, Thanks
[22:45] <jeagle> Does anyone know what this error means and how to fix it in ghost script..? :) "Can't find (or can't open) font file /usr/share/ghostscript/9.04/Resource/Font/Courier."
[22:45] <diskinetic> single
[22:46] <fubsi> ripper_, ah right! :-)
[22:46] <fubsi> forgot
[22:46] <ripper_> fubsi, any ideas?
[22:46] <Zaitzev> diskinetic: alright. Google "disper" and see if that can do anything for you. It's for multi-monitors mainly, but might do the trick.
[22:46] <ripper_> is there a way to grep output to stdout and pipe to a file?
[22:46] <diskinetic> k
[22:46] <fubsi> ripper_, start skype like: "skype > log.txt"
[22:46] <fubsi> ripper_, after u can see wot is written in log file
[22:47] <ripper_> hmm going to try this
[22:47] <MonkeyDust> or skype| tee skype.log
[22:47] <fubsi> ripper_, remember 12.04 is beta
[22:47] <ripper_> is there a way to revert back to 11.10?
[22:47] <fubsi> or like MonkeyDust says
[22:47] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, Is the release date for 12.04 -> April 12 2012 ?
[22:47] <CFHowlett_> ripper_   reinstallation
[22:48] <ripper_> CFHowlett_, there has to be another way
[22:48] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  yes, but better ask that in the channel i just gave
[22:48] <fubsi> ripper_, I dont know
[22:48] <oCean> ripper_: 12.04 is not supported in this channel, /join #ubuntu+1 for that
[22:48] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  april 26
[22:48] <fubsi> ripper_, best is: data backup and reinstall
[22:48] <josef_> q
[22:48] <josef_> exit
[22:49] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, thanks
[22:49] <josef_> howto quit irssis?
[22:49] <ripper_> type /quit
[22:50] <m1chael> i'm trying to burn a mpg to dvd using growisofs... the dvd skips in a dvd player, otherwise it plays fine. anyone have any suggestions for me?
[22:55] <dumnut> hi, i want to find out if my laptop is 32-bit or 64-bit, what is the terminal command to find thaqt out?
[22:56] <Quantum_Ion> dumnut, How much memory do you have ?
[22:56] <dumnut> Quantum_Ion: 21gb left
[22:56] <Quantum_Ion> dumnut, Memory 4GB or more = 64 bit
[22:56] <CFHowlett_> dumnut   if more than 64 gigs of ram = 64 bit
[22:56] <dumnut> Quantum_Ion: how do i find what memory i have?
[22:57] <dumnut> ram memory
[22:57] <CFHowlett_> dumnut   free -m
[22:58] <CFHowlett_> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[22:58] <dumnut> thankyou for your help Quantum_Ion and CFHowlett_
[23:00] <gdea73> hello. Is there any way I can still install sun-java6-jre via a package rather than configuring everything manually?
[23:00] <gdea73> I'd much rather have a package to install so it's easier to remove and will work automatically for all users, provided that update-alternatives is set.
[23:00] <gdea73> I know there is no more sun-java6-jre package in the Multiverse repository but is there a 3rd party one that hosts it?
[23:01] <MonkeyDust> gdea73  sun-java is no longer adviced, use open-java
[23:01] <nyRednek> open-java is certified compatible
[23:01] <Quantum_Ion> dumnut, This is also a good command for checking memory on your system - > sudo dmidecode --type memory
[23:02] <gdea73> MonkeyDust: okay thanks, though I found it anyway, it was ppa:sun-java-community-team/sun-java ;)
[23:02] <gdea73> though wait, are you saying that openjava executes Java code the exact same as Sun Java (performance-wise)? Will I not find any incompatibilities with Java apps or performance drops?
[23:02] <MonkeyDust> gdea73  oracle no longer supports java for linux
[23:02] <gdea73> what?? well they still *provide* it, don't they? Their repository still works ...
[23:03] <gdea73> so for example, would OpenJDK be sufficient for Minecraft server hosting, etc.?
[23:03] <BryanRuiz1> no java for linux? thats crazy
[23:03] <itaylor57> MonkeyDust, that is not actually correct
[23:03] <BryanRuiz1> sun java*
[23:03] <gdea73> no proprietary Sun java, is what he was saying. But they still have it to some degree, right?
[23:03] <gdea73> right.
[23:04] <itaylor57> i am running oracle 7
[23:04] <nyRednek> itaylor57: oracle 7 what?
[23:04] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, That is not true check here - > http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
[23:04] <itaylor57> i am running oracle 7 java
[23:05] <Quantum_Ion> itaylor57, Me too
[23:05] <gdea73> where's the default plugin directory, where I'd find libnpjp2.so?
[23:05] <nyRednek> itaylor57: ok, consider, oracle makes a lot of products...you need to be specific
[23:05] <Cache_Money> Previously, I was having trouble booting into Ubuntu, WIndows would boot automatically.  Now, when I ran the Boot-Repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  My computer automatically boots into Windows.  Why can't I bring up an option to choose?
[23:05] <Quantum_Ion> MonkeyDust, Check this out - > http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[23:05] <gdea73> ^ I can't find the file libnpjp2.so. I thought that's what it was called...
[23:05] <Quantum_Ion> Cache_Money, Might have to reinstall grub
[23:06] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, Are you 64bit or 32bit ?
[23:06] <gdea73> 64bit
[23:06] <gdea73> I installed sun-java6-plugin, but I can't find the .so file to copy/link into Opera's plugin directory.
[23:06] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   easiest way to get the menu is to press the shift key after P.O.S.T. completes
[23:06] <Cache_Money> Quantum_Ion:  I thought I just did that.. maybe it was GRUB2.  Is there a difference?
[23:07] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   grub is not grub2
[23:07] <CFHowlett_> grub2 is default since 9.10 IIRC
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> Quantum_Ion  gdea73 itaylor57 offtopic: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/java-to-be-removed-from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-user-machines/
[23:08] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, Uninstall sun-java6-plugin and follow this - >  http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[23:08] <gdea73> whoa weird
[23:08] <gdea73> aww I don't want to do it manually, Quantum_Ion... lol
[23:08] <gdea73> it should work fine installed by a package I just can't find the plugin file.
[23:08] <gdea73> actually the JRE works fine, I just need the plugin.
[23:09] <gdea73> java -version recognizes Sun Java the way I did it (installing from the ppa ppa:sun-java-community-team/sun-java)
[23:10] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, This is ->  ‘sun-java-6′ package is garbage follow this - > http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[23:10] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_ :  Pressing SHIFT didn't work.  How do I reinstall grub?
[23:10] <CFHowlett_> !grub2|cache_money
[23:10] <gdea73> except Quantum_Ion, I only want Java 6, and the JRE alone for now
[23:11] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, that file is usually found in - >  /usr/local/java/jre1.7.0/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
[23:11] <nyRednek> Quantum_Ion: seriously, you're starting to sound like a spambot
[23:11] <nyRednek> Quantum_Ion: give it a rest
[23:11] <Quantum_Ion> or  /usr/local/java/jdk1.7.0/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
[23:11] <gdea73> well locate libnpjp2.so brought up nothing, but I'll check
[23:11] <nyRednek> gdea73: it's under /usr/java
[23:11] <gdea73> Quantum_Ion: well that assumes I installed Java 7, and manualy at that
[23:11] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, find  / -name libnpjp2.so ?
[23:11] <gdea73> I installed Java 6 via apt-get. I just can't find the plugin.
[23:11] <gdea73> oh ok 1s
[23:12] <gdea73> a lot of permission denied errors...
[23:12] <gdea73> and no results, afaik
[23:12] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_:  Because I'm having so much trouble trying to dual boot, what do you think of the idea of just installing Ubunut on my computer and runnings Windows 7 in a VirtualBox on the few instances that I need it..
[23:12] <gdea73> Never mind, got it, thanks Quantum_Ion.
[23:12] <nyRednek> gdea73: yeah, find isn't the ideal way to get to your file
[23:13] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   so long as you uderstand the VBox option will run slower than a native installation, I think it's a reasonable compromise
[23:13] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, run the command as root ?
[23:13] <qhartman> Cache_Money, as long as whatever you are doing in Windows can tolerate the performance hit of running in a VM, it's a great way to go. It's what I do most of the time.
[23:13] <gdea73> I got it to work now, Quantum_Ion
[23:13] <nyRednek> Cache_Money: personally, i prefer XP for those few instances
[23:13] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   IOW, we won't hate you :)
[23:13] <gdea73> only problem is the version I installed was update 21, but I don't realy care
[23:13] <gdea73> * really. -_-
[23:13] <Quantum_Ion> I need to smoke some spinach
[23:14] <gdea73> lol, you know it
[23:14] <gdea73> ... I mean, ... just lol.
[23:14] <gdea73> well, I have work to do... bye all
[23:15] <chime> me he instalado hace unos dias un sistema operativo basado en ubuntu llamado pinguy os, totalmente basado en ubuntu como si del mismo ubuntu trataramos, pero el problema es que el fondo de pantalla se me cambia automaticamente sin yo haber elegido esa opcion y no se como puedo ponerlo para que no se cambie automaticamente , solamente quiero que se quede mi fondo de pantalla actual
 alguien me puede ayudar¿?
 ademas de ello, de que se cambia automaticamente, tambien se ponen unas imagenes que se descargan automaticamente al ordenador
 cada 5 minutos tengo una imagen nueva en mi ordenador y automaticamente de fondo de escritorio
[23:15] <FloodBot1> chime: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:15] <CFHowlett_> !es|chime
[23:15] <Quantum_Ion> chime, Entonces mannana sin falta
[23:16] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_ : with that in mind, is there any way to UN-partition my hard drive?
[23:16] <Kotus> Cache_Money, testdisk
[23:17] <EsaSt> 0.0
[23:17] <Zaitzev> hm
[23:17] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   you mean return the partition to windows availability?  I would think you could boot the live CD, and use gparted to resize the windows partition...
[23:18] <Zaitzev> wow, LXDE is seriously ugly ><
[23:18] <CFHowlett_> *this WILL cause windows to hiccup*
[23:18] <mneptok> Zaitzev: you have used this channel enough to know that such a comment is offtopic.
[23:18] <Quantum_Ion> CFHowlett_, How about Partition Magic it is so easy to destroy partitions on a hardisk
[23:19] <Zaitzev> mneptok: It's related to what I've been struggling with for a couple of hours, been talking with dlentz for a while too.
[23:19] <CFHowlett_> Quantum_Ion   never used = no opinion...
[23:19] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_: I have 1 TB HD, but it's currently partitioned into 2 500GB partitions.    Should I even attempt to?
[23:19] <mneptok> Zaitzev: sorry about that. but only the stuff in your life that is relevant to Ubuntu support questions and answers belongs on this channel.
[23:19] <Quantum_Ion> CFHowlett_, You can even use Ubuntu Live disk to destroy your windows partition
[23:20] <Quantum_Ion> CFHowlett_, Read this - > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToRemoveWindows
[23:20] <Zaitzev> mneptok: which it is. I don't know if you were around an hour ago or so, when I was talking about the weird issues I suddenly got.
[23:21] <mneptok> Zaitzev: "this is ugly" is not a question or answer. and you may find more LXDE help in #lubuntu
[23:21] <Zaitzev> I was stating an opinion. Guess that's a big no-no here..
[23:22] <mneptok> Zaitzev: it's irrelevant to any meaningful support discussion in a channel with 1500 members.
[23:22] <nyRednek> here's one, why not make a fvwm-crystal spin? fubuntu FTW
[23:22] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   I tend to think long-term; in the long term, *my needs* are better served by a dual boot.  Currently, win7 is balking.  The windows hiccup has caused grub to also hiccup meaning I have to terminal boot grub each time.  This adds 15 seconds to boot.  Eventually, I'll get it back to normal.  BUT I have the patience to do this on *my* machine.  At work?  Production environment?  I...
[23:22] <CFHowlett_> ...might need a solution that *just works*.  What is right for you?
[23:23] <josvuk> How to switch in singel user mode? I don't use grub
[23:23] <Kotus> josvuk, init 1
[23:24] <nyRednek> Kotus: does that actually still work?
[23:24] <Kotus> i don't know
[23:24] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_ : How do you terminal boot grub?  I wouldn't mind do something extra, it's just currently I can only boot into Ubuntu (before I could only boot into Windows)
[23:24] <josvuk> does init 1 stops Xorg?
[23:24] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   pm?
[23:24] <AgamemnonZ> Hi all! I tried to figure this out myself, but will 11.10 update LibreOffice to 3.5 or stay with 3.4?
[23:24] <Quantum_Ion> CFHowlett_, You can try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:25] <raido> josvuk: ya, single user is tty only
[23:25] <nyRednek> Kotus: i thought upstart(or whatever replaced it) screwed up the sysV runlevels
[23:26] <josvuk> is the network conection also  stoped?
[23:26] <raido> josvuk: yep
[23:26] <Kotus> mm
[23:26] <nyRednek> josvuk: if you're in single user, network is down
[23:26] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_  Sure
[23:27] <bfrederi> Hey, I'm using mint-ubuntu, and I'm not sure if openconnect works the same in it, but it supposedly gets installed into the network manager. The problem is, when configure the vpn connection, I can't figure out where to enter vpn secrets.
[23:27] <josvuk> can I activatte the network agin in singel user mode? so does pon dsl-provider works ?
[23:28] <bazhang> bfrederi, then go to mintsupport
[23:28] <nyRednek> josvuk: you'll have to bring up your tcp/ip before using pon
[23:28] <bfrederi> I know there is another channel for mint-ubuntu, but there just isn't anyone active in there, and I thought I'd give this a shot.
[23:28] <bazhang> !mintsupport | bfrederi
[23:28] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   see the pm I sent
[23:29] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   > Cache_Money if you can boot to the grub: prompt, you can probably get boot grub with the right commands. In my case, it's configfile (hd0,4)/boot/grub/grub.cgf
[23:29] <CFHowlett_> 	*grub.cfg*
[23:29] <CFHowlett_> 	I found this by careful reading of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[23:29] <bfrederi> bazhang: right. I was just hoping that openconnect worked the same in Ubuntu.
[23:29] <chalist> hi all. i can download torrent file on windows with 10MB in p/s but in linux just 1MB with Deluge or vuze. why? anybody can help me? thanks a lot
[23:29] <jeagle> quick question, how do I install ghostscript with gsfonts? :)
[23:29] <bazhang> chalist, what about transmission
[23:30] <jeagle> apt-get install -y ghostscript gsfonts?
[23:30] <meganerd> chalist: do you have all the required ports forwarded?
[23:30] <ripper_> http://nopaste.info/3095eca611.html can anyone help with this?
[23:30] <AgamemnonZ> Anyone got a clue on this question? Will 11.10 update LibreOffice to 3.5 or stay with 3.4? If going to 3.5, how can I see when this will approximately happen?
[23:30] <chalist> bazhang: wait please to test. 1 minit
[23:34] <chalist> bazhang: transmission is like other clients too
[23:35] <bazhang> chalist, lower the upspeed to 100k
[23:36] <ghostconn> has anyone found a way to make audacious have a feel like itunes or winamp? I absolutly love audacious however I hate how I cant browse albums and they dont show cover art
[23:36] <chalist> bazhang, up speed is 1kb :D but not changed anything
[23:37] <ghostconn> ?
[23:37] <NewWorld> ghostconn:  audacious is meant to be simplistic and light. They've just only added a library feature. It CAN look like XMMS though :) Maybe another player is better suited for you
[23:38] <Quantum_Ion> NewWorld, I miss xmms it was light and clean
[23:39] <NewWorld> Quantum_Ion:  I've switched from XMMS to Audacious - you can even make it look like XMMS
[23:39] <ghostconn> can you reccomend a better music player.  I have tried banshee,rhythmbox,audacious and amarok I cant stand either of them... I like audacious however Im lacking the search ability and album cover art
[23:40] <ghostconn> any suggestions much appreciated thanks to all :)
[23:40] <Quantum_Ion> NewWorld, I used VLC and Totem to listen to mp3's
[23:41] <NewWorld> Quantum_Ion:  hahaha terrible choices for music imo!
[23:42] <ghostconn> totem is even worse then what I have mentioned
[23:43] <ghostconn> someone has to know of a good winamp/itunes like media player... I just want to serach my albums and view cover art.... cover flow would be amazing !!! :p
[23:52] <gr33n7007h> qmmp
[23:53] <dabaR> Is there something needed to turn on ssh agent forwarding?
[23:58] <ghostshadow_> ciao
[23:58] <ghostshadow_> !list


[04:53] <Kilos> morning everyone
[06:09] <chesedo> morning all
[06:51] <inetpro> good evening
[07:03] <chesedo> evening inetpro, have you tried spotting Jupiter next to the full moon yet :P
[08:07] <thatgraemeguy> morning peoples
[08:09] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy
[08:50] <superfly> morning thatgraemeguy, Kilos, chesedo, inetpro, Cryterion_
[08:50] <Kilos> ohi my fly
[08:51] <Kilos> oh and hi kmf too
[08:51] <Kilos> sorry im busy outside lots today
[08:54] <superfly> Kilos: some of the developers of the LoCo portal are trying to update it and get development on it going again. I remember that we used it for some stuff, and then the wiki for other stuff. What was the reason for using the wiki over the LoCo portal?
[08:55] <kmf> hiya Kilos
[08:59] <Kilos> ?
[09:03]  * chesedo wonders who the ? is for
[09:04] <dlPhreak> Mawnin yawl
[09:12] <Kilos> for the fly
[09:13] <Kilos> i saw  that in mails but head to sore to follow up
[09:13] <Kilos> hi dlPhreak
[09:13] <dlPhreak> Kilos: How are you ?
[09:15] <Kilos_> alive ty
[09:16] <dlPhreak> Well that's more than some of us can say.. lol vampire joke :)
[09:16] <Kilos> haha
[14:35] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:41] <Kilos> inetpro  sop die reen ne
[15:00] <kmf> rained lekker in JHB
[15:01] <kmf> spelling like a boss
[15:05] <Kilos> lol
[15:05] <Kilos> we had 11mm in 10 mins and long power off
[18:14] <inetpro> Kilos: 15mm + 7mm last night
[18:14] <inetpro> good evening
[18:14] <Kilos> good
[18:14] <Kilos> hello inetpro
[18:14] <Kilos> is bell.ogg the sound know as system beep
[18:15] <Kilos> known
[18:30]  * Kilos goes hunting for bell.ogg
[18:56] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:56] <Kilos> see ya more