[21:03] <lolBanana> I am setting up LXD for the first time and I want to get it so it would put any new containers on my local network just like a VM would, I am following the guide here: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/04/07/lxd-networking-lxdbr0-explained/ but I am a bit confused, since my port isn't eth0 should i replace eth0 with whatever the name of the port I have?
[21:03] <Outy> ifconfig
[21:04] <Outy> lolBanana: ifconfig will show your network devices very well
[21:05] <lolBanana> Outy: i know  that but i am confused as to how i should issue the command so that LXD containers would use my local network rather its own bridge
[21:05] <lolBanana> Outy: article says the command is "lxc profile device set default eth0 parent eth0" should I replace 'eth0' with the name of my port that shows in ifconfig?
[21:05] <nacc> lolBanana: well it still uses its own bridge, it's just a bridge to an actual physical device
[21:06] <nacc> lolBanana: that is nont what the article says (containerbr) at the end
[21:06]  * TheSHAD0W will leave SMBv1 enabled for now, wannacrypt probably won't make it onto his intranet but you never know
[21:06] <TheSHAD0W> Thank you ioria.
[21:06] <nacc> lolBanana: but yes, you want to s/eth0/your device name/
[21:06] <TheSHAD0W> ... Who's gone.
[21:07] <Outy> lolBanana: is ther a lot code to replace?  maybe someone knows how to redirect or link eth0 to whatever eth* device you have
[21:07] <lolBanana> nacc: ok so, my port is enp0s3 so the command should be "lxc profile device set default eth0 parent enp0s3" ?
[21:07] <Outy> like a virtual device
[21:08] <Outy> thats what i thougt of
[21:08] <nacc> lolBanana: no.
[21:08] <nacc> lolBanana: again, you seem to be misreading the page?
[21:08] <nacc> lolBanana: you are oly chaning eth0 to somethign else
[21:09] <lolBanana> nacc: so how should i write command?
[21:09] <nacc> lolBanana: ok, read the page again. You are only changing eth0 to enp0s3. Not other strings to other stringns.
[21:10] <nacc> lolBanana: you can start at the sentence 'Sometimes, though, ...'
[21:10] <lolBanana> nacc: those aren't commands, i read that but those aren't commands
[21:10] <nacc> lolBanana: what?
[21:10] <nacc> lolBanana: which method are you trying to do?
[21:11] <anarky999> Can someone answer a question about gnu ddrescue?
[21:11] <Outy> anarky999: i can
[21:12] <Outy> anarky999: doingg this all day helping me to rescue data for my customers
[21:12] <anarky999> Ok the hard drive stopped being readable after 1tb of data was recovered
[21:12] <anarky999> cannot find input
[21:13] <anarky999> is the img file still recoverable?
[21:13] <Outy> anarky999: how big is the hdd in total
[21:13] <anarky999> 3TB
[21:13] <Outy> anarky999: and yes there are ways
[21:14] <anarky999> i used the disks utility to try restoring the img and it says it will take 24 hrs
[21:14] <sruli> i am trying to copy a ecryptfs dir with cp i get an error for most files that "file name is too long", i tried with rsync -azvh and it shows at the end errors encountered without specifying and the target dir is larger than the source.. wha is the best way to copy such a dir?
[21:16] <Outy> anarky999: is it possible (with opened pc) to pull power cable and reattach it again - cause hdd will get available again under linux then you can run ddrescue command again with same options to continue the rescue. but only in case you set a logfile
[21:18] <Outy> anarky999: my command goes like this  ddrescue -d -vv /dev/sdX  /targetpath/image.dd /targetpath/image.log
[21:18] <anarky999> I tried that it only worked a couple times. Now the drive won't load even on windows. My question is about the already recovered data. Is it usable in its current form?
[21:18] <anarky999> tried the unpluging thing*
[21:18] <Outy> anarky999: yes: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[21:19] <Outy> anarky999: sudo testdisk /pathtoimage/image.dd
[21:21] <Outy> anarky999: testdisk -> no log -> Intel Partition if Windows File System on it or GPT when dealing wind Windows 8 and up
[21:21] <anarky999> you lost me hold on
[21:22] <Outy> anarky999: the you can try the file utils to copy all available files
[21:22] <Outy> anarky999: if no partition is found use analyse option before
[21:22] <lolBanana> nacc: i am trying to get any LXD containers to grab ip addresses of my local network 192.168.4.x and be accessible via openssh
[21:23] <Outy> anarky999: sorry where're you lost ?
[21:24] <sergio_> Hi all, I  am having problems to boot Wifislax
[21:24] <anarky999> hold on running testdisk I am a noob here
[21:24] <sergio_> Failed to load COM32 file vesamenu.c32
[21:24] <nacc> lolBanana: ok, I know that.
[21:24] <nacc> lolBanana: which method on that page are you trying to do?
[21:25] <Outy> anarky999: i opened private chat window see it ?
[21:30] <otherRick> How to set a custom name to an input_dev?
[21:32] <shazbotmcnasty> sergio_: did you resolve your issue?
[21:32] <sergio_> no
[21:32] <sergio_> I copied the file and other to /
[21:32] <sergio_> but nothing
[21:34] <sergio_> any idea?
[21:35] <shazbotmcnasty> sergio_: is it a live disk you're trying to boot to? And is it USB or CD or other?
[21:36] <sergio_> yes live usb
[21:37] <shazbotmcnasty> how did you create the live disk?
[21:37] <sergio_> i used unebootin
[21:38] <shazbotmcnasty> Seent this: ? http://www.ajopaul.com/2014/10/21/linux-usb-boot-disk-error-failed-to-load-com32-file-menu-c32/
[21:39] <sergio_> yes
[21:39] <otherRick> I create two event input device with a single module; but I need register the inputs using custom names
[21:39] <otherRick> ??
[21:39] <sergio_> but nothing
[21:39] <lolBanana> nacc: "lxc profile device set default eth0 parent eth0" and the command below
[21:39] <lolBanana> nacc: so the macvlan method
[21:40] <sergio_> i see that could be due to an old version of UNetbootin
[21:40] <nacc> lolBanana: ok then change every instance of eth0 in that to whatever is correct for your system
[21:40] <lolBanana> ok so it would be enp0s3
[21:40] <lolBanana> let me try
[21:42] <sergio_> no I have the lastest one
[21:43] <lolBanana> nacc: root@ubuntu1:/tmp# lxc profile device set default enp0s3 parent enp0s3
[21:43] <lolBanana> error: The device doesn't exist
[21:43] <lolBanana> enp0s3    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 08:00:27:ac:b6:dc
[21:43] <lolBanana>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>
[21:43] <kenrin> wifislax is just a distro?  Why not just use dd if=/path/to/iso of=/path/to/usb   ?
[21:44] <nacc> lolBanana: hrm, you are doing that on the host, right?
[21:45] <lolBanana> nacc: yes issuing commands on the host, via openssh
[21:46] <nacc> lolBanana: `lxc profile list`?
[21:46] <nacc> lolBanana: in a pastebin
[21:46] <lolBanana> nacc: im not sure how to obtain that
[21:46] <nacc> lolBanana: and maybe provide the full messages from the `lxc profile device ...`
[21:46] <nacc> lolBanana: you run that command.
[21:47] <lolBanana> nacc: default and docker
[21:47] <lolBanana> are the two things
[21:47] <lolBanana> root@ubuntu1:/tmp# lxc profile list
[21:47] <lolBanana> default
[21:47] <lolBanana> docker
[21:47] <nacc> lolBanana: yes, use a pastebin in the future, but that's good
[21:47] <nacc> lolBanana: ok, can you pastebin the full output from the `lxc profile device set...` ?
[21:48] <CoffeeMonster> Hi all. I have an old laptop with a broken screen, that I turned into a Ubuntu desktop (so with GUI, using an external monitor). I installed 17.04 on it, and was able to disable the laptop's internal monitor; all was well. I just upgraded to 17.10, and now all I see on my external monitor is a purple-ish screen. I am able to move the mouse further to the left, as if there was another screen:
[21:48] <CoffeeMonster> this makes me think the upgrade re-enabled the laptop's internal monitor. Any idea how I could disable the internal monitor again? Something like win+p in Windows.
[21:48] <nacc> lolBanana: oh wait, i see now, i was wrong
[21:48] <lolBanana> nacc: sorry but what's the full command
[21:48] <lolBanana> am i grabbing for the enp ether port?
[21:48] <shazbotmcnasty> aww he lef'
[21:48] <nacc> lolBanana: try `lxc profile device set default eth0 parent enp0s3`; `lxc profile device set default eth0 nictype macvlan`
[21:49] <nacc> lolBanana: that says to set the parent of the eth0 device in the default profile to enp0s3
[21:49] <nacc> lolBanana: and then to set the nictype of the eth0 device in the default profile to macvlan
[21:49] <CoffeeMonster> I have SSH access to the laptop btw
[21:50] <lolBanana> nacc: ok it did not reject those commands let me spin up a container
[21:51] <lolBanana> nacc: is there any particular answers i would need to give after "lxd init"?
[21:51] <nacc> lolBanana: wait, you should have allready run `lxd init`
[21:52] <lolBanana> nacc: i did and i just went with the default answers but i was not sure if i had to select something different since what i am wanting to do is not done by default
[21:53] <nacc> lolBanana: no, you first do `lxd init`, then do the config changes
[21:53] <lolBanana> nacc: so having selected the default choices i should be fine?
[21:53] <leftyfb> CoffeeMonster: 17.04 is no longer supported
[21:54] <leftyfb> CoffeeMonster: sorry, I didn't finih reading :)
[21:54] <nacc> lolBanana: sorry, you ran `lxd init` before ora fter the macvlan changes?
[21:54] <CoffeeMonster> leftyfb np :D
[21:54] <lolBanana> nacc: before
[21:55] <nacc> lolBanana: ok, then yes, you're finne
[21:55] <leftyfb> CoffeeMonster: try https://superuser.com/questions/297819/move-window-to-another-monitor-in-ubuntu-using-keyboard
[21:56] <leftyfb> CoffeeMonster: sorry, open up the display utility and use the above to move it to your screen
[21:57] <leftyfb> CoffeeMonster: unity-control-center display  #  being the util
[22:03] <fluvvell> can somebody remind me what the top bar in a unity session is called?
[22:03] <fluvvell> with date/time on right etc
[22:11] <lolBanana> nacc: is there a choice for ext4 format or no?
[22:11] <lolBanana> nacc: i see a choice between zfs and dir
[22:12] <nacc> lolBanana: sorry?
[22:12] <nacc> lolBanana: note there is a #lxcontainers channel as well
[22:12] <lolBanana> oh ok
[22:12] <lolBanana> i wasn't aware
[22:12] <lolBanana> nacc: storage pools is what i am talking about, https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/07/12/storage-management-in-lxd-2-15/
[22:13] <nacc> lolBanana: right, 'format' is the wrong concept
[22:13] <nacc> lolBanana: container storage isn't formatted
[22:13] <nacc> lolBanana: zfs is less about the fs-parts of it and more about how zfs can do disk management
[22:13] <lolBanana> i see ok
[22:14] <CoffeeMonster> leftyfb: the wmctrl command returns "cannot open display", unity-control-center says "unable to init server: could not connect: connection refused" and "cannot open display", and even xrandr says "can't open display" :/
[22:14] <lolBanana_> spotty internet
[22:15] <lolBanana_> nacc: thanks again for the explanation and earlier help
[22:15] <CoffeeMonster> i'm starting to get the feeling i should just crack open the laptop and physically disconnect the internal monitor lol
[22:18] <akik> CoffeeMonster: the unable to init server comes because of wayland
[22:18] <akik> CoffeeMonster: try selecting the ubuntu on xorg in the login screen
[22:20] <CoffeeMonster> akik I can't see the login screen, I think it's on the internal monitor of the laptop (which i can't see). i literally see nothing except a purple screen and my mouse
[22:21] <akik> nice...
[22:22] <nacc> lolBanana_: yw
[22:22] <CoffeeMonster> Is there a way to start a graphical remote connection to Ubuntu Desktop, a bit like RDP on Windows? I found something about xRDP, but it also said it was only available on Ubuntu Server
[22:22] <nacc> CoffeeMonster: nothing is "only" available on "Ubuntu Server"
[22:22] <nacc> CoffeeMonster: it's all the same set of packages
[22:22] <nacc> CoffeeMonster: you can use rdp, i believe, or you can use vnc, or ssh -X, etc.
[22:23] <lolBanana_> CoffeeMonster: you can use teamviewer as well
[22:23] <hidari> i use xrdp on all my systems.  works great
[22:24] <hidari> works better than vnc for me
[22:25] <CoffeeMonster> Oh, I like the sound of Teamviewer... I'll try these suggestions, and I'll come back to cry if it doesn't work
[22:25] <CoffeeMonster> Thanks :)
[22:27] <lolBanana_> CoffeeMonster: just keep in mind you will need to install teamviewer through CLI, and force the install
[22:27] <otherRick> Hi, I develop a module with two event inputs; how assign a custom name to the input handlers for examplel: /dev/input/keypad0 ?
[22:29] <nacc> otherRick: do you mean a kernel module?
[22:30] <otherRick> yeah
[22:31] <otherRick> I develop a driver module with two event inputs, all works; but I need register the event inputs using custom names in order to difference each input?
[22:32] <nacc> otherRick: you want a kernel channel
[22:32] <nacc> otherRick: not the ubuntu support channel
[22:33] <otherRick> thanks
[22:50] <FrameFever> nacc: I want to download libstdc++-6-dev
[22:50] <FrameFever> but ubuntu cannot find it
[22:50] <FrameFever> what is wrong?
[22:51] <FrameFever> E: Unable to locate package libstdc++-6-dev
[22:51] <nacc> FrameFever: for what version of ubuntu?
[22:51] <FrameFever> 16.04
[22:52] <nacc> !info libstdc++-6-dev xenial
[22:52] <nacc> FrameFever: --^
[22:52] <FrameFever> nacc: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libstdc%2B%2B-6-dev&searchon=names&suite=artful&section=all
[22:52] <FrameFever> I found it here
[22:52] <FrameFever> how can I download it?
[22:53] <nacc> FrameFever: that's is for artful (17.10)
[22:53] <nacc> FrameFever: you can't use it on 16.04.
[22:53] <pavlos> I think the name is libstdc++6
[22:54] <thyriaen> I am looking for a way to configure a dedicated key ( lets say F12 ) to open a terminal ( or if i already opened one to bring it back up - and if it is already up to minimize it )
[22:56] <lakitu> hey real real quick: is upgrading your os a lot better now? i'm looking at 17.04 being upgraded
[22:56] <nacc> lakitu: 17.04 is eo
[22:57] <lakitu> recommended? dos, don'ts?
[22:57] <nacc> *eol
[22:57] <lakitu> i know
[22:57] <lakitu> that's why i gotta upgrade
[22:57] <nacc> lakitu: so not sure what you're asking?
[22:57] <lakitu> i'm in 17.04
[22:57] <nacc> better than what, it's required in your case
[22:57] <lakitu> better than times of yore
[22:57] <lakitu> when a upgrade was a risky proposition
[22:57] <nacc> lakitu: please be specific.
[22:58] <lakitu> anyone else know how reliable it is to?
[22:58] <nacc> lakitu: you are not doing a normal upgrade anyways, you're doing an eol upgrade
[22:58] <nacc> lakitu: in general, keep your system up to date in the first place and the upgrades are painless, ime
[22:59] <lakitu> i have updates in their default settings. i am now required to upgrade to the next version, & seeing if that's doable, in the modern iteration
[22:59] <lakitu> ((of Ubuntu))
[23:00] <nacc> lakitu: it's always been 'doable'. you are being very vague
[23:00] <nacc> lakitu: perhaps you would be happier on a LTS relelase
[23:01] <lakitu> some versions were not smooth to upgrade from, to
[23:01] <lakitu> maybe google / someone else has an opinion
[23:02] <pavlos> lakitu: upgrades worked without issues, can you be specific?
[23:03] <lakitu> nah.
[23:03] <nacc> lol
[23:03] <lakitu> in the past there were issues
[23:03] <lakitu> with some
[23:03] <nacc> lakitu: ok, this is the support channel. If you have an actual support issue, please ask.
[23:04] <lakitu> obviously i don't nacc haha. only asking if it is a safe proposition to upgrade my whole system...
[23:04] <lakitu> i'll google from now on
[23:04] <oerheks> lakitu, you will never know for sure, untill you do: backup your data .. wait, if you don't have a backup, your data is unimportant :-D
[23:04] <nacc> lakitu: eol upgrades are (IMO) inherently more tricky. It should work fine, but you'll need to follow the instructions
[23:04] <nacc> !eolupgrade | lakitu
[23:05] <lakitu> right, backup is a good idea
[23:07] <hidari> get used to disaster recovery and using linux will easier to use.
[23:08] <hidari> well works for me anyways.  wrote scripts to do everything for me since reinvent the wheel so much
[23:08] <lakitu> well i wrote a back up script
[23:09] <hidari> i moved on to restic.  pretty nice backup program.
[23:09] <lakitu> yeah backups are a good topic. how to, what programs are best to, what you need
[23:09] <lakitu> etc, etc...
[23:11] <lordcirth> deja-dup is nice and simple for personal backups
[23:11] <FrameFever> nacc: FYI using sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test
[23:12] <lakitu> (backing up now)
[23:12] <FrameFever> fixes my issue
[23:12] <nacc> FrameFever: which is not an ubuntu repository
[23:12] <FrameFever> now I can download the package
[23:12] <nacc> FrameFever: so you are only supported by those PPA developers
[23:12] <nacc> FrameFever: given that the repository is called 'test', i would ot necessarily use it in production
[23:56] <jack> hello
[23:57] <jack> hi
[23:58] <nacc> jack: do you have a support question?
[23:58] <jack> hello
[23:59] <nacc> jack: you said that already


[04:43] <hallyn> sarnold: jdstrand: fwiw I spent a week trying to reproduce on my server specifically on ext3...  but tha tdoesn't mean ext3 isn't involved of course
[04:43] <hallyn> down to 104M.  that's impressive
[04:43] <hallyn> call it a feature and call it a day :)
[04:45] <sarnold> hallyn,jdstrand, did you ever have any luck recreating the problem on your server?
[05:32] <hallyn> sarnold: I never did.  not once
[05:32] <hallyn> now there is a bug i was sru'ing today which made reference to qcow2 corruption due to try_fiemap(), but i dont' think it's related
[05:33] <hallyn> infinity: bug 139209, a straight sync looks sane to me.  since you last touched it, just wanted to make sure you didn't have any objections
[05:54] <hallyn> well, seems fine.  few more test-builds
[06:09] <darkxst> slangasek, could you take a look at bug 1391102 its been sitting in unapproved for nearly two weeks now
[07:26] <didrocks> diwic: hey! not sure if you noted, but cyphermox uploaded bluez5 to the ppa, if you can upload a snapshot of pulseaudio soon, that would help us knowing if bluez5 support works (as it's one of the first use-case to test)
[07:27] <diwic> didrocks, cool, thanks for the heads up
[07:27] <didrocks> yw!
[08:22] <dholbach> good morning
[08:27] <LocutusOfBorg1> hi dholbach :)
[08:29] <dholbach> hi LocutusOfBorg1
[08:42] <seb128> @pilot in
[08:45] <tjaalton> gpg-agent doesn't seem to start on utopic, and there's no logfile created either.. anyone else seeing this?
[08:49] <seb128> tjaalton, gnome-keyring is the defautl gpg agent
[08:50] <tjaalton> well gpg-agent worked fine on trusty, and it has an upstart session job too
[08:50] <tjaalton> gnome-keyring doesn't know about my key, seems to be running though
[08:50] <tjaalton> how to configure it?
[08:54] <seb128> tjaalton, could be a fallover from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/1271591
[08:54] <seb128> see recent comments
[08:54] <tjaalton> ah
[08:54] <tjaalton> thanks
[09:07] <seb128> xnox, hey, is https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu-seeds/platform-init/+merge/225850 still a thing?
[09:07] <seb128> slangasek, ^ you could maybe review that one? it's the sponsoring queue since july
[09:18] <seb128> cjwatson, hey, do you have an opinion on https://code.launchpad.net/~tj/ubuntu/trusty/grub-installer/lp1354730/+merge/230222 ? It's in the sponsoring queue since august, would be nice to have it out one way or another :-)
[10:18] <Laney> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768600 ← could we apply similar to ureadahead in Ubuntu?
[10:18]  * Laney just got a trigger cycle
[10:53] <seb128> @pilot out
[11:37] <mardy> greyback: hi! Can you please join #ubuntu-touch?
[11:43] <xnox> Laney: yes.
[12:06] <Laney> xnox: ya, uploading
[12:07]  * Laney finds the triggers documentation hard to grok
[12:11] <xnox> Laney: yes, currently the policy maintainers are looking for reviewers to review the triggers implementation to review the triggers policy patch for sanity.
[12:11] <xnox> Laney: no takers yet....
[12:11] <Laney> interesting - I didn't look in policy
[12:11] <xnox> Laney: well, it's not /in/ policy yet =) because it's too cryptic to find reviewers to +1 it.
[12:12]  * xnox set off world rebuilds and now off for lunch.
[12:55] <infinity> hallyn: I feel like that bug number was probably missing a digit...
[12:59] <mdeslaur> Riddell: FYI, I'm still working on your updates, it's taking a while because I have to rebuild a bunch of dependencies in the -security pocket
[13:38] <hallyn> infinity: doh
[13:39] <hallyn> infinity: bug 1392095
[13:39] <hallyn> basically, sync libcap2.  seems to work.  built fine, let me still build qemu/lxc at lest.
[13:41] <hallyn> mdeslaur: is there any part of qrt that would exercise libcap2?
[13:47] <infinity> hallyn: Seems fine to me, go for it.
[13:47] <hallyn> thanks, will do.
[13:58] <mdeslaur> hallyn: not sure, maybe test-kernel-security.py
[14:11] <hallyn> mdeslaur: ooh, nice.  maybe i should find time to move some of the old ltp tests into there
[14:24] <caribou> seb128: thanks for sponsoring libnss-ldap, though there were concerns expressed around the changelog descriptions
[14:24] <seb128> caribou, those concerns should have been expressed on the bug then I guess?
[14:25] <caribou> seb128: agree
[14:25] <seb128> caribou, well now it's done, sorry about that
[14:26] <caribou> seb128: you don't have to be sorry, I should have done better & remove the debdiff
[14:27] <caribou> seb128: that's the problem with doing merges w/o upload rights, it is mostly useless
[14:28] <seb128> caribou, it's not useless
[14:28] <seb128> well depending of how complex the merge is and how much you are trusted
[14:29] <seb128> caribou, but it's at least useful in the sense you get sponsoring and experience which puts you on the way to ask for upload rights ;-)
[14:30] <caribou> seb128: yeah right, but in that case, it leaves the merge bugs in situation prone to errors
[14:30] <seb128> well, my fault as a sponsor for not spotting the error
[14:30] <seb128> it's also not of the best taste to have somebody reviewing it/having comments and not writing those on the bugs to avoid duplications or errors
[14:32] <caribou> seb128: tbh, I prefer to have it uploaded in that state (missing a more explicit changelog description & one useless Build-Dep) than the opposite
[14:32] <caribou> currently, all of the libnss-ldap package in the archive will generate Segfaults and unbootable systems if they're rebuilt
[14:33] <seb128> urg
[14:33] <seb128> that merge was also overdue
[14:33] <seb128> so thanks for putting efforts on it, it was non trivial
[14:33] <caribou> seb128: good learning experience I must say. Anything I should do to complete ?
[14:34] <caribou> seb128: like propose a debdiff with the missing bits in a new version ?
[14:34] <seb128> caribou, if you want to do a followup upload with some extra fixes/changes feel free yes
[14:34] <caribou> seb128: missing bits == more descriptive debdiff & remove po-debconf from the Build-dep
[14:34] <caribou> seb128: ok, will do. I have it ready but got dragged into other things
[14:35] <seb128> caribou, thanks
[14:35] <jdstrand> sarnold: I don't have a server. I was talking to them yesterday and they said it would be useful to have both the pre-corrupted image and then the corrupted image, so they could compare the qcow2 data structures for before and after
[14:35] <jdstrand> sarnold: so I was able to do that for them
[14:51] <mwhudson> mitya57: are you awake still?
[14:54] <mitya57> yes I am
[14:58] <mwhudson> mitya57: i commented on bug 1393583, i'm a bit confused as to what happened though
[15:00] <mitya57> mwhudson: the patch headers are correct, I just ran quilt refresh locally to remove some noise from there.
[15:00] <mitya57> (to be more precise, I have QUILT_REFRESH_ARGS="-p ab --no-timestamps --no-index" in my .quiltrc)
[15:00] <mwhudson> mitya57: then why does applying the patch fail to add the last two lines of the file?
[15:01] <mitya57> And the reason for it FTBFS is probably some change between utopic and vivid.
[15:01] <mwhudson> no
[15:01] <mwhudson> (i do really need to get around to setting up quilt properly)
[15:02] <mitya57> Hmm indeed the last two lines are missing.
[15:02] <mwhudson> quilt bug?!
[15:03] <mitya57> maybe it is, my gccgo-stdlib-ignore ends with
[15:03] <mitya57> +       "unicode":             true,
[15:03] <mitya57> +       "unicode/utf16":       true,
[15:03] <mitya57> +       "unicode/utf8":        true,
[15:03] <mitya57> +       "unsafe":              true,
[15:03] <mitya57> +}
[15:03] <mwhudson> the difference i see between the patch i uploaded and the one quilt made for you is that mine says @@ 1,143
[15:03] <mwhudson> and yours says @@ 1,141
[15:04] <mitya57> I see, it's probably my fault
[15:04] <mitya57> Sorry, and let me fix it
[15:04] <mwhudson> np
[15:04] <mwhudson> and let me finally set up a .quiltrc
[15:05] <mitya57> $ cat ~/.quiltrc
[15:05] <mitya57> QUILT_DIFF_ARGS="-p ab --no-timestamps --no-index --color=auto"
[15:05] <mitya57> QUILT_REFRESH_ARGS="-p ab --no-timestamps --no-index"
[15:06] <mwhudson> mitya57: thanks
[15:09] <mitya57> mwhudson: uploaded
[15:11] <mwhudson> mitya57: yay thanks
[15:15] <mitya57> no need to thank me, it was my fault after all :)
[15:16] <mitya57> (and it built this time)
[15:16] <mwhudson> mitya57: well thanks for looking at my patch at all :)
[15:17]  * mwhudson reads about SRUs
[15:18] <mwhudson> (this bug breaks lxd when compiled with gccgo)
[15:19] <ogra_> you could fix it in lxe then
[15:22] <caribou> seb128: new debdiff is ready for LP: #1389152
[15:23] <caribou> seb128: the debdiff is over the .ubuntu1 version that you uploaded recently, not over the orig debian pkg
[16:15] <seb128_> caribou, great, thanks, going to review that in a bit
[18:40] <teward> has anyone noticed that the time it takes apport to actually generate error report data for the user to see has drastically increased since 10.04 all the way up to 14.04?  It takes, sometimes, 20 minutes to get data from the apport 'report error' window when xorg crashes, even in 14.04...
[19:11] <sarnold> jdstrand: heh, I hjadn't considered that a before-and-after might be more useful than just the "after" -- but it makes a lot of sense. nice work grabbing one :)
[19:14] <jdstrand> sarnold: thanks! though the idea to compare was rharper's. it makes a lot of sense


[00:40] <pfifo> ok now im running into a real problem, I am trying to build unity-system-compisitor, but I cannot find the file 'mir/pause_resume_listener.h' well technically >I< can find it, its at '/usr/include/mirserver/mir/pause_resume_listener.h' it looks like it was installed into the wrong location, or perhaps the install locations changed and unity-system-compisitor hasnt updated their code yet? What should I do?
[01:37] <pfifo> well I gave up on trying to build it myself, and installed the binary package, but that created all sorts of problems :( I think im going to have to hold off on mir hacking til it gets a bit more


[04:10] <lubuntik> HI
[04:10] <lubuntik> hello world
[04:10] <Random6> Hi
[06:44] <chris4285> hello
[07:30] <centrix_> I am using this script https://dpaste.com/BT4T5HFQ3 to clean out the SW installed for icinga2.
[07:30] <centrix_> However, reinstall cannot be done for various problems. Mainly with PHP.
[07:32] <centrix_> Eg.: https://dpaste.com/E75354FV3
[07:33] <centrix_> Before reviewing the script - it's been written quickly. No art. I need to clean out to install again a FULLY working Icinga.
[07:33] <centrix_> I am testing at a VM with a snapshot where only OS was installed.
[07:34] <centrix_> Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS. ISO downloaded at Feb 12. 2024.
[07:35] <centrix_> There are many brutal removals due to the fact that uninstalling the packages a HOST of leftovers are still at the disk.
[07:36] <CosmicDJ> centrix_: man apt, search for purge
[07:38] <centrix_> CosmicDJ, I've just issued the apt purge command and "find / -name "*php*"" still delivers php related files.
[07:55] <CosmicDJ> centrix_: dpkg -S /path/to/php/file to check which package this file belongs to
[12:27] <Gunwoo> Alt, Control, Windows_Start, Shift, arrow_up/down/left/right deletes the currently selected text/cells in Firefox and Libreoffice-Calc but not in Libreoffice-Writer. and it only moves the cursor to the first character of the selection without deleting in Google Docs on Firefox. and this bug does not happen when firefox is running on X-wayland... Does anyone have any clue how to fix it?
[12:27] <Gunwoo> sway 1.8.1-2 is downloaded from Ubuntu. the version of ubnutu is 23.10.
[12:27] <Gunwoo> My first impression about the bug is written here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1438491#answer-1636603
[12:32] <PeGaSuS> I hate cross posting but I've been trying to get help on #ubuntu-server and I couldn't get any. so, when compiling UnrealIRCd, I'm facing this issue on one of my machines: /usr/bin/ld: error: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1: file too short
[12:33] <PeGaSuS> tried to reinstall `libkeyutils1` and `libkeyutils-dev` to no avail. ideas?
[12:44] <ogra_> PeGaSuS, sounds like filesystem corruption (the .so is only in the library package, not in -dev FWIW)
[12:49] <PeGaSuS> I find it weird because all was working before updating the system
[12:50] <PeGaSuS> I just did `apt update && apt dist-upgrade`, rebooted the machine, tried to recompile UnrealIRCd (it compiled perfectly fine before) and hit the error
[12:57] <ogra_> also /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1 is actually a symlink, does the target file exists and does the file command correctly detect it as ELF object ?
[13:26] <PeGaSuS> `ls -l /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1` returns: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Feb 13 13:24 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1 -> libkeyutils.so.1.9
[13:26] <PeGaSuS> `file /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1.9` returns: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1.9: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, BuildID[sha1]=ff27227afa5eeddccab180dd29bd7fcff94aea7c, stripped
[13:43] <PeGaSuS> I guess I'll have to reinstall the system?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:11] <PeGaSuS> hello BluesKaj :)
[14:23] <BluesKaj> hey PeGaSuS
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> PeGaSuS: usualy apt knows what to do in case it spits out errors
[14:54] <PeGaSuS> well, I tried to reinstall even libgcc, etc. reinstalled the system and I'll see what happens next
[14:54] <PeGaSuS> there was only UnrealIRCd running there, so no big loss
[15:05] <ogra_> PeGaSuS, you could just use an lxd container for building, it is trivial and wouldnt taint your host then ...
[15:07] <leftyfb> mmmmmm containers ......
[15:08] <ogra_> leftyfb, did you see https://documentation.ubuntu.com/lxd/en/latest/howto/access_ui/ yet btw ?
[15:08] <leftyfb> ew
[15:09] <leftyfb> :)
[15:09] <ogra_> well, turned off by default 🙂
[16:00] <PeGaSuS> isn't a VPS already a container? :P
[16:10] <plastikman> no
[16:10] <plastikman> its a VM
[16:23] <leftyfb> it could also be a container
[18:20] <cent> A question off the topic - I ahve a ubuntu ISO I want to install onto a dell server. Is it possible to UPLOAD the ISO into the iDRAC "space". Not map a REMOTE ISO, but to have that locally available. Thanks.
[18:22] <cent> Some sort of the "iDRAC has kinda memory chip you can use to store your files" thing.
[18:22] <cent> Thank you.
[18:22] <leftyfb> cent: no. Not unless you have the sd/microsd card flash module installed and write the iso to that
[18:23] <leftyfb> I've been running into this issue a lot lately. The iso is apparently just big enough to be a little too much to be mounted over the internet to some locations
[18:39] <plastikman> Why not just setup MAAS or Cobbler (yes its redhat, but it works with ubuntu), or FAI (is that still a thing?)
[18:41] <leftyfb> plastikman: that's not what they were asking for
[18:46] <plastikman> I know....but like, the real way to deploy servers is with a deployment tool :)
[18:47] <cent> leftyfb, rhanks. That is what I suspected. To your additional note, I do not use large ISOs as I take care to have the Inet access to a repo off of which I can install packages etc..
[18:47] <cent> Bu that ISO location would be neat to have.
[18:47] <leftyfb> plastikman: the real way is using the tools and resources you have available to you and those that fit your workflow and abilities
[18:47] <cent> Location, storage
[18:47] <plastikman> leftyfb: fair.
[18:48] <leftyfb> cent: you asked about Ubuntu. The latest 22.04.3 iso is fairly large and in my experience across dozens of deployments, it's become and issue mounting it remotely using the iDrac
[19:25] <rodney_> Hy all, please, it's my first time here and I'd like to know how to check through terminal in ubuntu if my hardware supports avx - I installed vinegar to run roblox in ubuntu, but roblox is not opening.
[19:25] <rodney_> I'm using 22.04 version
[19:26] <leftyfb> rodney_: I typed: linux "avx" into google and got "https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37480071/how-to-tell-if-a-linux-machine-supports-avx-avx2-instructions
[19:27] <rodney_> Fine leftyfb, I gonna try it now, thank you :)
[19:27] <bprompt> rodney_: grep avx /proc/cpuinfo   <--- at the console, ** shamelessly taken from https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37480071/how-to-tell-if-a-linux-machine-supports-avx-avx2-instructions **
[19:28] <rodney_> bprompt, thank you very much !
[19:28] <leftyfb> it's the same link I already posted
[19:29] <bprompt> heheh, notice that, that just means we're fast typist =), and yes, it was the 1st link in the results
[19:31] <rodney_> Please leftyfb and bprompt, I'm confused with this output: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1307231
[19:31] <leftyfb> rodney_: if you got output, it means it found it
[19:31] <rodney_> I really can't understand through this information if avx is supported or not by my computer
[19:32] <leftyfb> rodney_: grep -o avx /proc/cpuinfo
[19:32] <leftyfb> rodney_: grep -o avx2 /proc/cpuinfo
[19:32] <oerheks> that means you have 8 cores
[19:33] <oerheks> err 4 cores, i have 8
[19:34] <rodney_> leftyfb and bprompt and oerheks, it has returned avx2 four times after typed 'grep -o avx2 /proc/cpuinfo'
[19:34] <oerheks> That sounds good.
[19:34] <leftyfb> rodney_: yes, your CPU supports avx and avx2
[19:36] <rodney_> Ok, thank you. I really can't understand why roblox is not opening - I installed vinegar and made the configuration in the configuration file according a  tutorial that explains how to install it in ubuntu.
[19:36] <leftyfb> rodney_: you'll have to seek support from the vinegar project
[19:37] <leftyfb> !wine | rodney_ you can also try this channel:
[19:38] <bprompt> rodney_: I'd like to point out there's a #vinegarhq channel
[19:39] <rodney_> thanks leftyfb and ubottu - First of all, I'd like  to get any irc channel for vinegar
[19:39] <rodney_> bprompt, is this channel found in libera.chat ?
[19:39] <bprompt> rodney_: from what I can see, yes
[19:40] <leftyfb> rodney_: type: /join #vinegarhw
[19:40] <rodney_> Ok, I'll check it around there, thank you very much :)
[19:40] <leftyfb> though it doesn't look very active
[19:41] <rodney_> Yes, there is anyone over there
[19:41] <rodney_> Is there anyone how have installed roblox in ubuntu here successfully ?
[19:43] <oerheks> some use flatpak / grapejuice https://flathub.org/apps/net.brinkervii.grapejuice
[19:44] <rodney_> Does grapejuice works fine in ubuntu ? Some people have related several issues with grapejuice
[21:01] <heyeyey> does anyone know why firefox is extremely laggy on startup? this only happens with ubuntu. I usually have to close it and reopen it for it to be normal again. I'm using ubuntu 20.04 lts
[21:04] <kawal> you have a dual boot system?
[21:05] <heyeyey> no, normal boot with ubuntu
[21:05] <kawal> try to flush firefox cache, or start with a clean config double check you didn;t install bad extensions.
[21:06] <kawal> maybe your hardrive is getting slower.
[21:07] <heyeyey> but why would it work again until I turn off my computer? Once it works, firefox works perfectly until I shut down my computer
[21:07] <heyeyey> yeah maybe it's an extension problem
[21:07] <leftyfb> heyeyey: it's more than likely due to just being a snap
[21:07] <leftyfb> snaps have an issue on the very first boot
[21:08] <heyeyey> firefox is a snap?
[21:08] <leftyfb> once you open the app, it should load fine after until you reboot again
[21:08] <leftyfb> yes
[21:08] <heyeyey> yep that's what happens
[21:08] <heyeyey> is there a way to install it normally?
[21:08] <leftyfb> it is installed
[21:09] <leftyfb> "normally"
[21:09] <kawal> leftyfb is snap the only available firefox now? or .deb package still around?
[21:10] <xangua> There's an official Deb repository around now
[21:10] <leftyfb> not from the official ubuntu repos. Mozilla has a package, but it's not supported by the Ubuntu community
[21:10] <leftyfb> xangua: it's not official from Ubuntu
[21:10] <heyeyey> maybe i'll switch to debian than
[21:10] <xangua> By Mozilla*
[21:10] <heyeyey> s/than/then
[21:10] <heyeyey> it's a shame
[21:10] <leftyfb> heyeyey: are you constantly rebooting?
[21:10] <heyeyey> yeah basically everyday
[21:11] <kawal> only the snap is ubuntu official firefox then.
[21:11] <oerheks> it is lagging at 1st startup .. because you did not run updates first, properly, after boot
[21:11] <oerheks> it checks online
[21:11] <leftyfb> heyeyey: and 2-5 seconds is too long to wait for the first time to load an app once your computer boots up?
[21:11] <oerheks> can do 10 seconds, or 25?
[21:12] <heyeyey> it's not 2-5 secs, it's like a constant lag that doesn't go away until I restart the program
[21:12] <heyeyey> it can go on for a long time
[21:12] <leftyfb> heyeyey: ah, then that's not likely a snap problem
[21:12] <oerheks> a lag .. per new page? how much ram do you have?
[21:12] <heyeyey> i have modern specs, it's not a computer problem i think
[21:13] <heyeyey> and it doesn't even use more ram than usual neither does it use cpu
[21:13] <heyeyey> maybe it's a firefox bug
[21:14] <heyeyey> but what makes me suspicious is that i've used many distros and ubuntu is the only one with this problem
[21:14] <heyeyey> *where i have this problem
[21:40] <cdriscoll> Is this the correct channel to ask how to remove/disable the default Firefox snap package from the 22.04 desktop ISO (so it's not installed as a snap upon initial login) ?
[21:41] <leftyfb> cdriscoll: sudo snap remove firefox
[21:42] <cdriscoll> @leftyfb: Heh, but I want it removed during install.  I'm already preseeding a 22.04 Desktop install, but all of my attempts to disable the snap haven't worked :(
[21:42] <leftyfb> add the command to your autoinstall script
[21:44] <cdriscoll> Adding something like 'in-target sudo snap remove firefox --purge' to the ubiquity/success_command section?
[21:44] <leftyfb> I don't know, I don't have a need to remove firefox. Also, all my customizations I do through ansible after Ubuntu is installed
[21:45] <leftyfb> you can try it
[21:45] <cdriscoll> I did.  It doesn't work.  I want it to not be installed during OS installation.
[21:46] <leftyfb> why not just remove it after?
[21:46] <tanath> just do oem install
[21:46] <leftyfb> or just leace it
[21:46] <leftyfb> leave*
[21:47] <cdriscoll> @leftyfb: I don't want users to have to run a script or command to remove the snap post-install.  I just want the snap to not be there.
[21:47] <tanath> cdriscoll: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[21:48] <leftyfb> why not just let the users have firefox?
[21:48] <cdriscoll> @leftyfb: I have Firefox installed via the Mozilla repo.
[21:48] <tanath> you can set it up how you want, then prepare, and image the disk
[21:48] <tanath> assuming you want an image you can replicate
[21:48] <leftyfb> cdriscoll: or you could just leave it installed as a snap by default
[21:48] <cdriscoll> I could, yes, but I need disk encryption setup during install.
[21:48] <tanath> or if you just want the one system you're done
[21:49] <cdriscoll> I don't want the Firefox snap.
[21:49] <leftyfb> why?
[21:50] <cdriscoll> Does it matter?  It's a preference.  I can look into the OEM setup.
[21:51] <leftyfb> cdriscoll: you're spending all this effort because you "prefer" to not use snaps? You know firefox works, looks and acts exactly the same either way right?
[21:51] <cdriscoll> I want the .deb package installation method, seems pretty easy to understand.
[21:58] <tanath> leftyfb: it's needless bloat though, duplicating dependencies. it's not like there aren't good reasons to avoid it
[21:59] <leftyfb> tanath: half-truths
[21:59] <tanath> oh?
[21:59] <oerheks>  you need some trickery tricks to add the official firefox repo keys ..
[21:59] <oerheks> * with correct priority
[22:00] <cdriscoll> @oerheks: I'm currently extracting the ISO, unsquashing the filesystem and customizing packages there, which is where I'm adding the Mozilla repo keys and apt preferences, etc.  I just don't wasnt two Firefox packages installed (snap and deb).
[22:02] <leftyfb> cdriscoll: you have yet to give a valid reason to add a 3rd party, unsupported repo and install a duplicate package already installed on the system by default
[22:02] <cdriscoll> @leftyfb: Nope, I'll just ignore your unhelpful responses.
[22:03] <Menzador> I mean, "I don't like snap" is a valid reason, sure, but deb isn't the only solution
[22:03] <tanath> cdriscoll: if you want an example, here's one for mint, but would be same for ubuntu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0uY24H1o5k
[22:03] <Menzador> (I don't like snap either; I install and self-support a Flatpak instance myself)
[22:04] <Menzador> The reason people are getting mad is most likely because the snap is the officially supported way to install Firefox
[22:04] <Menzador> Everything else, ymmv
[22:08] <greenleaf> hello
[22:09] <oerheks> Menzador, and the mechanism, after 1st boot snaps check themselves.
[22:10] <greenleaf> I just installed a cli terminal termux on my android device
[22:10] <leftyfb> greenleaf: you might be looking for #android
[22:11] <tanath> there's a #termux channel
[22:11] <oerheks> How is that ubuntu support related?
[22:11] <greenleaf> ^ no way a termux on this server?
[22:11] <tanath> yep
[22:11] <oerheks> jolly
[22:11] <greenleaf> thank you fo4 telling me!
[22:12] <greenleaf> im using irssi and weechat on an old android tablet lol it rocka
[22:12] <greenleaf> rocks*
[22:12] <tanath> you're using both? 🤨
[22:12] <greenleaf> yes
[22:13] <greenleaf> beats carrying a laptop around
[22:13] <plastikman> take it to a general
[22:13] <leftyfb> greenleaf: feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:20] <bprompt> greenleaf: well, using a laptop beats "tying with one finger" on a keyboard covering half of the screen real state
[22:20] <bprompt> s/tying/typing/


[02:26] <Strav> He. Anyone else having random Dolphin crashes when trying to delete files/move them to trash? (ultimately, dolphin ends-up crashing kwin too.) I'm having this problem on kde 4.11.2 and also had it on kde 4.10
[06:29] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:28] <tapout> hey guys, i've hooked up my logitech camera and it works .. but I cannot see any settings related to it under System Settings... I wanted to configure what level it captures at
[10:56] <Paddy_NI> Hello I have an MP4 file that I would like to transcode/burn to a DVD to be played on just about any home dvd player
[10:56] <Paddy_NI> I would ideally like to use K3B
[10:57] <Paddy_NI> I also have a bucket load of codecs installed as well as ffmpeg
[10:57] <Paddy_NI> brb.. bathroom
[11:35] <zhuyaxu> cn
[11:46] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:41] <tazz> What is that site we sue to figure out what time to hold a meet. It has these hourly slots, we tick when we are free.
[13:41] <tazz> I totally forgot the site's name.
[13:49] <tazz> got it. doodle.
[14:09] <hplc> how to get rid of that annoying password popup windows that keeps coming back no matter what one type in it? it looks like some network password related thing
[14:12] <BluesKaj> hplc, do you mean the wallet ?
[14:38] <hplc> BluesKaj, yes, it might be that
[14:39] <hplc> BluesKaj, it labeled "secret"......something, how to terminate that?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> hplc, the nexttime it pops up click in the user and pw fields but don't enter anything , then click apply
[14:49] <hplc> no i was wrong, it a window asking for the wifi password, but i no longer need that, but it keeps coming up
[14:49] <hplc> delete entire wifi network to make it go away?
[14:53] <BluesKaj> hplc, you should be able to disable the wifi in your network manager if it's active there or even in your router if wifi isn't required by any other pcs or laptops or phones
[14:55] <BluesKaj> !multiarch > BluesKaj
[14:56] <BluesKaj> !multiarch-support > BluesKaj
[14:56] <BluesKaj> odd it's in the repos
[14:59] <Roey> BluesKaj:  Which other distributions do you like as a desktop, aside from the Debian-derived ones?  I'm trying out OpenSuSe in a virtualbox
[14:59] <Roey> (with KDE of course)
[15:00] <BluesKaj> open suse is a nice OS , tried fedora a while back , but open suse would be my choice for a second OS
[15:03] <Roey> ah
[15:03] <Roey> BluesKaj:  I hear that integration of KDE with the rest of the OS is pretty good in OpenSuse
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Roey, yes it is , kde runs well on opensuse
[15:11] <Roey> does opensuse have any KDE software (dialogues, etc.) that Kubuntu does not?
[15:11] <Roey> I imagine that there would be KDE-Yast integrat
[15:11] <Roey> integration.
[15:11] <BluesKaj> yup
[15:11] <BluesKaj> we should be in offtopic , Roey
[15:11] <Roey> aye
[17:36] <lattera> so I'm getting an access denied when trying to browse to an smb share with dolphin
[17:37] <lattera> how would I go about seeing why I'm getting an access denied?
[17:49] <genii> lattera: Where is the share, on a remote Windows box, the same machine you are trying to browse it from, or a remote *nix box?
[17:50] <lattera> it's an fbsd box on the local network
[17:50] <lattera> configured with samba
[17:51] <genii> lattera: Would check the logs there. Most likely your logged in username on Kubuntu doesn't match up with the default connection name over there
[17:52] <lattera> genii: even if I specify the username, using smb://username@host/share I get access denied
[17:52] <lattera> but I'll check the logs there, too
[17:55] <lattera> hrmm, just getting this error: create_connection_session_info failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[17:56] <genii> lattera: Maybe try connect on cli with smbclient and -v switch for more info
[17:57] <lattera> smbclient works
[18:10] <genii> lattera: Apologies on lag, work required me. Do you have fusesmb installed?
[19:00] <lattera> genii: nope, I don't... do I need it?
[19:04] <genii> lattera: Couldn't hurt.
[19:08] <lattera> genii: nope, still didn't work in dolphin after installing fusesmb
[19:08] <genii> lattera: If you run dolphin from in Konsole and pastebin the output it might have something enlightening
[19:09] <lattera> no output
[19:11] <genii> Odd.
[19:12] <genii> lattera: No output even if you do like: dolphin smb://user@host/share/   ..?
[19:15] <lattera> nope
[19:15] <lattera> no output
[19:16] <lattera> well, nothing that pertains to the problem at hand
[19:21] <genii> lattera: If you can temporarily mount it in cli and then check what fs it's using, what does it say? Something with gvfs or so?
[19:21]  * genii ponders mount.cifs
[19:26] <lattera> mount.cifs mounts it as cifs
[19:26] <lattera> I did have to specify -ouser=shawn
[21:13] <fuesiufe> 12.04 LTS, AMD HD 7700, Catalyst Center with administrative rights prompts for password, but when i type it and press enter it just seems to "crash", Catalyst Center without administrative rights works, but tells me i need administrative rights to set something,
[22:01] <root_> hello
[22:49] <Scunizi> What happened to "kate" the editor?  suddenly disappeared from my system.  I can't even find it with an Alt+F2 search.
[23:19] <slimkid> anyone here use IBus? I'm using Kubuntu 13.10 beta2 and it's pretty dysfunctional on there


[00:09] <ScottK> Be careful about bumping build-dep versions for libs we aren't updating.
[00:13] <yofel> the script doesn't support that idea yet, it force-updates kdelibs, kdepimlibs and lib*. I'll do a manual check
[00:13] <yofel> do you know if python3-support-bytecode.patch an be completely dropped in 4.9 as well?
[00:14] <yofel> seems like it can
[00:16] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1085519] Does KDE SC 4.10 process cookies differently than 4.9? @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1085519 (by Marco Parillo)
[00:21] <apachelogger> it's a bugestion
[00:22] <yofel> it's an apachelogger!
[00:23] <apachelogger> what? where? :O
[00:24] <yofel> on the backside of the moon ;P
[00:26]  * apachelogger believes that to be an iron sky reference and fails to see the connection but cheers anyway
[00:42] <yofel> 33 packages were updated
[00:48]  * ScottK thought yofel said back side of the muon.  It would have been more topical.
[00:48] <yofel> lol
[09:10] <Riddell> ScottK: no GFDL invariant sections are not allowed, have one slipped in?
[10:31] <simplew> how can i change the unlock background image?
[10:31] <simplew> yofel_: prong
[13:38] <yofel> http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/ppa/494q.html
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:10] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.  In kdesdk - ./scripts/kde-emacs/kde-emacs-tips.texi  ./scripts/kde-emacs/kde-emacs-doc.el
[14:17] <ScottK> yofel: Can you write the release team list about the symbol changes in pimlibs?  We shouldn't have that in a point release.
[14:17] <ScottK> Particularly not missing ones.
[14:18] <yofel> well, I was just wondering about those. They seem to be caused by the fix for the ABI breakage in 4.9.3, or I'm misreading something.
[14:18] <yofel> I'm off for dinner, will take another look later
[14:18] <yofel> s/dinner/lunch/
[14:18] <kubotu> yofel meant: "I'm off for lunch, will take another look later"
[14:20] <simplew> yofel: could you tell which package i need to uninstall to have the item "Pinter Applet" removed from systray?
[14:25] <simplew> yofel: nevermind, its done
[14:37] <ScottK> yofel: But we had the ABI breakage fix patch in 4.9.3, so that shouldn't be a diff for 4.9.4.
[14:37] <ScottK> Could be related though.
[14:37]  * ScottK didn't investigate.


[10:50] <sbalneav> KeithWeisshar: Best bet would be to talk to Dell tech support, and ask them.
[10:50] <cap601> Anyone?
[10:50] <jrib> Led_Zeppelin: there are really two settings it seems, "default language" under language settings and spell check language under "writing aids" -> edit... with Spellchecker selected
[10:50] <jrib> !please > cap601 (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:50] <Led_Zeppelin> jrib: its selected as "English (USA)"
[10:51] <jrib> Led_Zeppelin: and it has the letters "abc" with a checkmark on the left?
[10:51] <degreseven> can anyone help me get a samba share mounted? The fstab entry i used in another distro doesnt work for me. I am able to browse the share using smb://path, but i can't mount it
[10:51] <Azu1> gotta go play with fluxbox more
[10:51] <Azu1> bbl
[10:51] <Shankysv87> i have a problem, instead of my computer going to screensave it logs out or puts it on pause or something
[10:51] <INTit> heyho
[10:51] <Led_Zeppelin> jrib: no
[10:52] <Shankysv87> like if i sign back in, all my programs start up from the beginning again, but they all open again at least
[10:52] <frolle> I have this line, how do i have to change it to use it in fstab? sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/FROLLE /media/frolle -o username=Administrator%frolle
[10:52] <jrib> Led_Zeppelin: then degreseven was correct, you need to install myspell-en-us
[10:52] <Led_Zeppelin> jrib: do I need a package for spellchecking?
[10:53] <nullkuhl> guys  i have 2 question ,, how to send a file using blue tooth in gnome,, and how to change the booting splash of ubuntu using usplash
[10:53] <Veinor> can anybody help me with my iPod problem?
[10:53] <kitche> !usplash | nullkuhl
[10:53] <ubotu> nullkuhl: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[10:53] <jrib> Veinor: I probably cannot, but you need to state the problem
[10:53] <akari> join #vaidas_beryl
[10:53] <akari> Ups
[10:54] <Veinor> Whenever I send a playlist to my iPod in GTKpod or Amarok, it says it was sent, but I can't access it. It's still there when I reconnect; it's like a 'phantom zone', where gtkpod and amarok can see it but the iPod itself can't.
[10:54] <blue42> huh, is ubotu a bot?
[10:54] <UNDERsoN> whre I can download DVD image
[10:54] <UNDERsoN> !dvd
[10:54] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:54] <jrib> blue42: yes
[10:54] <blue42> sewpe
[10:54] <blue42> sewper
[10:54] <jrib> ubotu: tell blue42 about yourself
[10:54] <kitche> UNDERsoN: from the ubuntu site
[10:55] <degreseven> frolle: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_mount_network_folders_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read
[10:55] <Led_Zeppelin> jrib: yep, it works! thanks!
[10:55] <jrib> Led_Zeppelin: np
[10:55] <jk2> bollards
[10:55] <jk2> went and set account and still wont let me access other drives
[10:55] <jk2> :(
[10:55] <blue42> thanks jrib
[10:57] <blue42> \clear
[10:57] <jk2> gah dman
[10:57] <jk2> I give up
[10:58] <ruben-> Which package includes: "libXext.so.6" ?
[10:58] <smamoune> hiii
[10:58] <crdlb> !find libXext.so.6 | ruben-
[10:59] <ubotu> ruben-: Package/file libxext.so.6 does not exist in feisty
[10:59] <ruben-> !find libXext.so | ruben-
[10:59] <Wips> How do I open folder from root? Something like nautirus, dont remember the name :O
[10:59] <barnydan> anyone in here play BF1942?  I can't install the linux server in ubuntu.  http://battlefield2.filefront.com/file/Battlefield_1942_full_linux_Server;23188
[10:59] <sbalneav> ruben-: libxext6 I beleive
[10:59] <jrib> ruben-: you can use packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file on your own system to find out, but sbalneav is right
[11:00] <UNDERsoN> Is there installation dvd of ubuntu not live but alternate
[11:00] <nickrud> Wips, to run the file manager as root, gksudo nautilus <-- dangerous
[11:00] <Veinor> ugh, end of my rope here.
[11:00] <Bluhd> Where should I set CVSROOT to be in Ubuntu?
[11:00] <ruben-> jrib: apt-file doesn't work
[11:01] <Wips> nickrud: Hi Again. You gave me a command to insert to fstab once. about how do change the rights on the vfat harddisk.. but I cant figure it out
[11:01] <barnydan> anyone know why I can't install bf1942 linux server in ubuntu but I can in other linux distro's?
[11:01] <jrib> ruben-: did you do 'sudo apt-file update' first and then do 'apt-file search libXext.so.6'?
[11:01] <ruben-> "apt-file" isn't a command
[11:01] <Shankysv87> i'm having a problem with idling and signing off
[11:01] <jrib> ruben-: you need to install it
[11:02] <smallfoot> zomg, this compiz 3d stuff made me cream my pants
[11:02] <smallfoot> but then i wanted to log out
[11:02] <smallfoot> and my computer froze
[11:02] <smallfoot> and i had to shut down it by switch on power supply
[11:02] <nickrud> Wips, defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 are the options you'd put on the vfat partition
[11:02] <Bluhd> smallfoot: holding the power button for 5 secs didn't work?
[11:02] <smallfoot> idk, i didnt know that was possible
[11:02] <smallfoot> lol
[11:03] <smallfoot> but ctrl-alt+del didnt work
[11:03] <smallfoot> numlock, caps lock, scroll lock, didnt work either
[11:03] <Bluhd> smallfoot: holding the power button is a hardware function, so it works all the time
[11:03] <nickrud> smallfoot, I had the same issue myself: for some reason if I did sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm every time I logged in, I could log out.
[11:03] <Lilacor> anyone having trouble reaching google?
[11:03] <smallfoot> ubntu kinda less stable than windows xp lol
[11:03] <barnydan> anyone want to try and install bf1942 linux server on their ubuntu box to see what the problems might be?  http://battlefield2.filefront.com/file/Battlefield_1942_full_linux_Server;23188  there is the download address.
[11:04] <smallfoot> atlerast windows gives bluescreen so you know something wrong
[11:04] <Bluhd> Where should I set CVSROOT to be in Ubuntu? I'm new to using CVS and I figure I should get some practice right now
[11:04] <smallfoot> on linux, it just freeze and gives you the silent treatment
[11:04] <Netham45> can someone press alt+prnt scrn+b for me? it's not working for me.
[11:04] <SpeakerMania> Is it possible to scan my Windows drive for problems with Ubuntu?
[11:04] <Netham45> it's supposed to do something with the kernel.
[11:04] <ipx> Sometimes my sound dont work in games, but then a reboot is enough to get it back. But not this time? How many reboots i now make, i still have no sound in whatever game i try. MP3s in XMMS work tho. Any thoughts?
[11:04] <Netham45> LOL
[11:05] <Netham45> XD
[11:05] <vip3rousmango> SpeakerMania: Yes, there is, I saw a tutorial on google. Search for Accessing Windows with Ubuntu
[11:05] <Bluhd> hehehe
[11:05] <Bluhd> Netham45: I'm surprised that worked
[11:05] <SpeakerMania> thanks
[11:05] <Netham45> wow
[11:05] <Netham45> that was cheap
[11:05] <vip3rousmango> yeah, no problem
[11:05] <jrib> Bluhd: export CVSROOT=whatever
[11:05] <Pozaro> !!!! you have to pay for cedega  :(
[11:05] <Netham45> lol
[11:05] <sbalneav> Bluhd: What are you doing, learning a SCCS?  If so, bazaar or Subversion would be better choices.
[11:05] <Netham45> kde2525, sorry, that was cheap.
[11:05] <Bluhd> sbalneav: I'm trying to use Anjuta and its CVS capability with the Sourceforge servers
[11:05] <kde2525> what do you mean?
[11:05] <Bluhd> Netham45: or this:
[11:05] <Netham45> press alt+prnt scrn+b
[11:05] <Pozaro> this sux
[11:06] <Bluhd> what's the command for exiting the program in IRC?
[11:06] <jrib> Bluhd: sourceforge does svn as well
[11:06] <Netham45> bluhd: /quit
[11:06] <Bluhd> Netham45: :P
[11:06] <Lilacor> Bluhd: /quit
[11:06] <Bluhd> LOL
[11:06] <Cybe> Does anyone know a good program to verify a big proxy list with? So they will be sorted after the best ping etc.?
[11:06] <Bluhd> we got one
[11:06] <Bluhd> I think
[11:06] <Shankysv87> my some reason, my os will randomly go to a logged out state, however all my programs will continue to run, however when i "sign in" my programs start over but stay going. What is going on?
[11:06] <sbalneav> Bluhd: Well, probably best bet would be to create something in your home directory, i.e. cvsstuff, then CVSROOT=/home/Bluhd/cvsstuff
[11:06] <jrib> Bluhd: please don't do that here, try to stay on topic
[11:06] <Bluhd> there was a blank quit message, looks suspicious :P
[11:06] <Bluhd> jrib: k
[11:06] <nullkuhl> guys how to send a file using bluetooth in gnome ,, wat tools to use or get ?
[11:07] <smallfoot> i noticed that in Slackware, ALOT of apps are installed by default, but in Ubuntu, very few are, no XMMS, no VLC, no MPlayer
[11:07] <Bluhd> sbalneav: does this directory maintain every cvs repository present in the system?
[11:07] <jrib> smallfoot: they are easy to install with APT
[11:07] <barnydan> anyone want to try and install bf1942 linux server on their ubuntu box to see what the problems might be?  http://battlefield2.filefront.com/file/Battlefield_1942_full_linux_Server;23188  there is the download address.  Please!?!?
[11:07] <adaptr> smallfoot installing 100 programs takes about 10 minutes, so what is your damage ?
[11:07] <ipx> Sometimes my sound dont work in games, but then a reboot is enough to get it back. But not this time? How many reboots i now make, i still have no sound in whatever game i try. MP3s in XMMS work tho. Any thoughts?
[11:07] <sbalneav> Bluhd: Probably OT for this channel.  But yes, anything you check out will be rooted there.
[11:08] <nullkuhl> guys how to send a file using bluetooth in gnome ,, wat tools to use or get ?
[11:08] <barnydan> BF1942 is an old game,  the linux server runs on other distro's but not my lovely Ubuntu!!!
[11:08] <barnydan> What gives!~!
[11:08] <vip3rousmango> nullkuhl: there are a bunch of bluetooth apps in the Add/Remove programs list, look there.
[11:08] <sbalneav> Instead of asking us to download 100 megs of stuff, why don't you tell us what error you're getting?
[11:08] <nullkuhl> mostly kde i think
[11:08] <nullkuhl> vip3rousmango: ..
[11:09] <vip3rousmango> sbalneav: ok one sec, let me look for bluetooth for KDE environment
[11:09] <vip3rousmango> er.. wrong name =\
[11:09] <vip3rousmango> nullkuhl:
[11:09] <M3L> I have two soundcards which one of them is external (Hercules Dj Console) the default currently is the internal one and I would like to change it to the external, how can I do this ? thanks
[11:10] <sbalneav> vip3rousmango: Understandable.  Our names are real close :)
[11:10] <nullkuhl> vip3rousmango: i want bluetooth stuff for gnome not kde
[11:10] <nullkuhl> i dun have kde
[11:10] <barnydan> ok, I install bf1942 linux server, it uncompresses, than asks if I accept the agreement, I type accept and I get this.    Update it to use /bin/bash instead
[11:11] <jrib> !dash > barnydan (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:11] <KI4IKL> I know this is a long shot, but is there a way to share speakers between a windows and a linux pc?
[11:11] <jk2> sudo mount -o media/disk-1/uploads /home/FTP-shared/download
[11:11] <HymnToLife> KI4IKL, with a Y-shaped connector ?
[11:11] <fac3less> Split 'em kI
[11:12] <KI4IKL> Yeah...but can you do it with software?
[11:12] <Shankysv87> for some reason, my os will randomly go to a logged out state, however all my programs will continue to run, however when i "sign in" my programs start over but stay going. What is going on?
[11:12] <KI4IKL> I dun wanna have to buy the stuff...my mom wont take me to the store...
[11:12] <barnydan> jrib, I'm not sure but this is just one file that is over 100meg.  Is that the script your refering to?
[11:12] <Shankysv87> how can i fix this?
[11:12] <jrib> barnydan: I don't know, I've never used this thing.  Is it a script?  What does 'file /path/to/your/file' return?
[11:13] <zaggynl> Hi, I installed fail2ban, but it's not banning at all
[11:13] <Nergar> hello fellow ubunters!
[11:13] <nullkuhl> guys wat can i use to send bluetooth files from gnome???
[11:13] <barnydan> jrib  bf1942_lnxded-1.6-rc1.run: Bourne shell script text executable  "I guess its a script"
[11:13] <jrib> barnydan: yeah, so open it in a text editor and fix the first line
[11:14] <barnydan> jrib ok thanks man!
[11:14] <jk2> sudo mount -o media/disk-1/uploads /home/FTP-shared/download <--- anyproblem ?
[11:14] <Nergar> anyone know how to make alias permanent in Bash??
[11:14] <Nergar>  alias ssh='ssh algo@algunlado -p 123'
[11:14] <jrib> jk2: what is the '-o' for if you have no options?
[11:14] <jrib> Nergar: put it in ~/.bashrc
[11:14] <hajhouse> Nergar: add the command creating the alias to ~/.bashrc
[11:15] <barnydan> jrib I get an error something about make sure your not trying to open a binary file.
[11:15] <M3L> where can I change the default soundcard in Kubuntu
[11:15] <Nergar> thnx jrib, hajhouse
[11:15] <jrib> barnydan: how are you trying to open it?
[11:15] <omegacenti> My sound sounds clipped (almost busted/different speakers test sounds same, second set of test speakers are HIGH quality) Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty, AC97 Intel corporation multimedia card. Don't know how to check driver/mixer. I have searched ubuntu help and google and might be using the wrong keywords. Need some advice/walkthrough help.
[11:15] <barnydan> jrib gedit
[11:15] <jrib> barnydan: does it open anyway?
[11:15] <jk2> mount: special device media/disk-1/uploads does not exist <--- jrib - that now :|
[11:15] <Nergar> what does rc stands for in .bashrc?
[11:16] <hajhouse> Nergar: resource
[11:16] <jrib> jk2: yeah, what are you trying to do exactly?
[11:16] <Nergar> thnx
[11:16] <barnydan> jrib nope it won't open.  I'll try vi or something aswell.
[11:16] <jk2> failing to set up a user account in gproftpd
[11:16] <jrib> Nergar: "run commands"
[11:16] <jrib> barnydan: k
[11:16] <hajhouse> Nergar: you will find that it's common for the user's configuration file for some program to be called .<program name>rc; examples .muttrc, .vimrc
[11:16] <jk2> all I want is to set the user up on a different drive
[11:17] <barnydan> jrib nope "bf1942_lnxded-1.6-rc1.run" [Incomplete last line] [converted]  403860 lines, 1626
[11:17] <barnydan> 99864 characters
[11:17] <barnydan> Press ENTER or type command to continue
[11:17] <omegacenti> My sound sounds clipped (almost busted/different speakers test sounds same, second set of test speakers are HIGH quality) Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty, AC97 Intel corporation multimedia card. Don't know how to check driver/mixer. I have searched ubuntu help and google and might be using the wrong keywords. Need some advice/walkthrough help.
[11:17] <jrib> barnydan: what does   'head -n 1 /path/to/file'  return?
[11:17] <barnydan> hey wait it is open in vi, but it gave me that error to start with.  If I save it might it be a corrupt file now?
[11:18] <bruno> i have a problem with grub
[11:18] <jrib> barnydan: well make a backup
[11:18] <barnydan> jrib ok.
[11:18] <jk2> jrib you wouldnt know would you ? to set up an user account so that it accesses a different drive on the pc
[11:18] <Allex> hi everyone, does anyone know if its possible to make it so i can se buddies comments that they have in msn?
[11:18] <jrib> jk2: I can tell you how to mount another partition but I don't know anything about gproftpd
[11:18] <agimuno> I have friend who have an Acer TravelMate 4604, he uses a logitech bluetooth keyboard and mouse, he has had problems even booting the livecd, he succeded once, he burned his livecd to an dvd at 2x, any suggestions?
[11:18] <Veinor> I cannot get amarok or gtkpod to send playlists to my iPod. They appear to put them somewhere where they can read them, but the iPod can't Does anybody have any idea why?
[11:19] <bruno> i've installed windows xp and i can no longer boot into ubuntu
[11:19] <jrib> !grub > bruno (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:19] <agimuno> he has never used ubuntu before, so It would be nice for him to get it to work, so he might get interested in GNU/Linux
[11:19] <Tomasu> are there any 3rd party mirrors for the feisty-commerical repo? the one at canonical is rather slow. :(
[11:19] <stefg> !grub | bruno
[11:20] <ubotu> bruno: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:20] <omegacenti> !sound
[11:20] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:20] <zaggynl> I can't get fail2ban to work, it doesn't ban anything :(
[11:20] <jk2> jrib - mount: special device media/disk-1/uploads does not exist <--- disk-1 is a separate drive
[11:20] <bruno> i've reinstalled the mbr but it doesn't work
[11:20] <jrib> jk2: you want to use  /dev/something
[11:20] <zaggynl> I have configured it and restarted it, auth.log entries appear, fail2ban.log only shows some info stuff
[11:20] <SM7X> hi there
[11:20] <SM7X> i have a problem with my apt-get
[11:20] <fac3less> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&hs=2yq&q=vistapages+reviews&btnG=Search&meta=
[11:20] <fac3less> er
[11:21] <fac3less> ignore that.
[11:21] <fac3less> What I meant was this: aticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Bad file descriptor.
[11:21] <SM7X> get the errormessage sh-3.00# apt-cache update
[11:21] <SM7X> W: Couldn't stat source package list
[11:21] <SM7X> and so on
[11:21] <SM7X> i updatet the sources.list in /etc/apt
[11:21] <fac3less> Yet the file opens fine -- curious why it would output the error?
[11:21] <SM7X> and allready googled
[11:21] <jrib> SM7X: pastebin the entire error message
[11:21] <jrib> !enter | SM7X
[11:21] <ubotu> SM7X: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:21] <SM7X> jrib: k 1sec
[11:21] <bruno> i can just boot into xp with the boot&tools menu in SGD
[11:21] <fac3less> paste2.org! Forget pastebin. :p too slow.
[11:22] <sldkfj> !pastebin > sm7x
[11:22] <SM7X> here it is jrib http://rafb.net/p/mh3Oo723.html
[11:22] <omegacenti> My sound sounds clipped (almost busted/different speakers test sounds same, second set of test speakers are HIGH quality) Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty, AC97 Intel corporation multimedia card. Don't know how to check driver/mixer. I have searched ubuntu help and google and might be using the wrong keywords. Need some advice/walkthrough help.
[11:22] <SM7X> sorry for that i thought it was just 2 lines :(
[11:22] <neverblue> i updated today, restarted my system, and it will not boot.  I had the following error: 'Starting Up.... [29.016770]  crc error [29.017559]  Kernel panic- not syncing VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)
[11:22] <jrib> SM7X: you are using hoary?
[11:22] <jk2> dev/something ?
[11:22] <meleahbee> how do i change to spanish dictionary to default in openoffice?
[11:22] <jrib> jk2: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[11:22] <SM7X> jrib --> Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l
[11:22] <neverblue> i am currently running memtest on the system to eliminate tha RAM as a possible issue
[11:22] <jk2> I am in dev
[11:23] <stefg> bruno: win overwrites the MBR without mercy during install. you have to restore grub to the MBR. read the link ubotu gave you
[11:23] <hjmills> how can I install multiple versions of wine?
[11:23] <neverblue> what is a crc error, and could this be the HD as well?
[11:23] <jrib> meleahbee: I think you can go to tools -> options -> writing aids -> spellechecker -> edit... -> language?
[11:23] <neverblue> hjmills, ask in #wine?
[11:23] <jrib> SM7X: you should upgrade, hoary hasn't been supported for a while
[11:24] <hjmills> neverblue, ok, thanks
[11:24] <neverblue> np
[11:24] <hjmills> neverblue, which irc network is it on?
[11:24] <sldkfj> yeah, it's almost criminal the way windoes is designed to treat the mbr
[11:24] <bruno> stefg: i've restored grub to the mbr but it doesn't work
[11:24] <SM7X> jrib: so its no chance for me to get some packets?
[11:24] <stefg> !doesntwork
[11:24] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[11:24] <neverblue> this one
[11:24] <barnydan> jrib I changed the header to #! /bin/bash  saved the file and doublechecked it.  I ran it and it ran, but I got the same error at the same place. Please type 'accept' or 'decline': accept
[11:24] <barnydan> [: 19: ==: unexpected operator
[11:24] <barnydan> [: 19: ==: unexpected operator
[11:25] <SM7X> jrib: this server is of a friend of mine and it has to run.. if i update i have to reinstall dont i?
[11:25] <neverblue> oh ops
[11:25] <bruno> without SGD i can't boot anywhere!
[11:25] <neverblue> no its not :/
[11:25] <neverblue> sorry
[11:25] <jrib> SM7X: no, you can upgrade
[11:25] <sldkfj> haha, doesn't work :)  I like that entry
[11:25] <hjmills> neverblue, tis ok, ill google it
[11:25] <jrib> !upgrade > SM7X (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:25] <SM7X> k
[11:25] <neverblue> i know there is a wine related channel on here somewhere
[11:25] <SM7X> th
[11:25] <SM7X> x
[11:25] <stefg> !wine
[11:25] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:25] <hjmills> neverblue, #winehq
[11:25] <jrib> barnydan: then I guess I was wrong.  But to be sure, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash' and choose bash as your default.  Let's see what happens
[11:26] <codeCowboy> hi. i have mapped a remote server which appears on ubuntu desktop. it does not appear within applications in the file browser dialog though. any ideas how to fix?
[11:26] <barnydan> jrib ok.
[11:26] <bruno> when SGD try to boot into ubuntu the result is error 15 file not found
[11:26] <SM7X> jrib: dont want to bother but... no way to get old packets for it?
[11:26] <meleahbee> jrib:  I looked within writing aids.  I changed the layout to spanish, everything to spanish besides the User Interface, and by default I still get english spell check.  Under english is the multiple spanish dictionaries, but i have to scroll through everytime english picks up a mispelled word
[11:27] <neverblue> ah
[11:27] <neverblue> there you go hjmills
[11:28] <codeCowboy>  if i add a 'place' from the places menu, where does this exist on the filesystem? its not in /mnt or /media.
[11:28] <barnydan> jrib It only lets me install Dash again,  but nothing else.
[11:28] <jrib> SM7X: well security updates aren't guaranteed anyway so you really should upgrade
[11:28] <sebas_> Nutubuntu: which were the opendns' IPs?
[11:28] <sldkfj> a 'place' is added to Places when bookmarking in Nautilus
[11:29] <jrib> meleahbee: specifically, you went to writing aids, then selected the spell checker, clicked "edit" and changed the language there?  And does the language have an "abc" with a checkmark next to it?
[11:29] <jrib> barnydan: it asks you a question, choose "no"
[11:29] <sldkfj> I think it's just a notation of that item being held special by the Places
[11:29] <barnydan> jrib ok I done that, but it dumps me back to the prompt.
[11:29] <jrib> SM7X: you could also try a different mirror, maybe it's just that mirror
[11:30] <jrib> barnydan: yes, does your install still fail?
[11:30] <SM7X> jrib i allready tried 3
[11:30] <barnydan> jrib nope it worked!  Wahoo!
[11:30] <AlexTheGreat> Hello
[11:30] <SM7X> the problem lies somewhere else i guess
[11:30] <Shankysv87> i have a huge problem!
[11:30] <barnydan> jrib you rule!
[11:30] <SM7X> i made an apt-cache update
[11:30] <SM7X> fails
[11:31] <AlexTheGreat> Ok, I just installed xubuntu last night on an old gateway PC
[11:31] <SM7X> apt-get install software fails
[11:31] <AlexTheGreat> and it crashed and when I went to reboot
[11:31] <jrib> barnydan: tell whoever created that file, that they have bashisms and need to call bash specifically
[11:31] <AlexTheGreat> And now it says "Operating System not found" whenever I try to boot
[11:31] <barnydan> jrib ok I'll leave a not on their website.  and see if I can e-mail them.  thanks
[11:31] <jrib> SM7X: well, I would recommend upgrading, or at least trying a live cd to test things out
[11:32] <Bluhd> argh
[11:32] <ladydoor> AlexTheGreat: Do you have access to a LiveCD or somesuch so that you can start that computer and look around on it?
[11:32] <SM7X> jrib: its a server in an RZ no way to get there and use a livecd
[11:32] <SM7X> :((
[11:32] <Allex> does anyone know if its possible to make pidgin display buddy comments?
[11:32] <Bluhd> How do I set a permanent environment variable?
[11:32] <stefg> AlexTheGreat: might be harddisk failure. boot the live cd and check if your installation is still there (seems not)
[11:32] <AlexTheGreat> What if it is still there?
[11:32] <vip3rousmango> AlexTheGreat: Try running a LiveCD copy and see, or you can run ERD Commander BootCD and emulate a windows environment to take a look at things
[11:33] <kishan> Allex, umean notify u when one comes in and out
[11:33] <leonidas> hello all
[11:33] <stefg> AlexTheGreat: tehn reinstall grub
[11:33] <stefg> !grub | AlexTheGreat
[11:33] <ubotu> AlexTheGreat: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:33] <AlexTheGreat> Is it a problem that only xubuntu is installed on the PC?
[11:34] <Allex> kishan, nah...i meen: in msn you can write a comment thats not part of your name, its displayed after the name in msn, Asmsn och monkeymessenger
[11:34] <meleahbee> jrib: i got language settings ->writing aids->select hunspell spellchecker and click edit.  I then select spanish(mexico).  It does have an ABC next to it.  But when i go back to that option english again is selected
[11:34] <kitsune> how do I remove the "Show Desktop" button from Kiba Dock?
[11:34] <Allex> kishan, but i cant se them in pidgin
[11:34] <stefg> AlexTheGreat: no, xubuntu is a full fledged OS... nothing else needed :-)
[11:34] <tiop> Anyone know the name of the package for that expanded menu applet Suse ships with nowadays?
[11:34] <neverblue> i updated today, restarted my system, and it will not boot.  I had the following error: 'Starting Up.... [29.016770]  crc error [29.017559]  Kernel panic- not syncing VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)
[11:34] <kishan> http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=843 allex
[11:35] <AlexTheGreat> Ok thanks I will try that and get back to you
[11:35] <marcus_> Hello. Is there any reason I could not run gnome and kde switchable on the same computer?
[11:35] <corpuscallosum> anyone know a programme that i can control my cpu speed and fan
[11:35] <jrib> meleahbee: weird, I have to go now so I can't test it out, but I recommend trying in #ubuntu-es as I am sure most there have done what you are trying to do and can probably help you better than I can
[11:35] <sldkfj> Kishan, I dare ya to try this as a search in Google:    remove buttons "Kiba Dock"
[11:36] <maccam94> ugh, i have a really borked mysql server, can someone help me uninstall it?
[11:36] <Allex> kishan, yeah...i have that. not what i meen.
     Kitsune, I dare ya to try this as a search in Google:    remove buttons "Kiba Dock"
[11:36] <tiop> Nevermind, it /was/ gnome-main-menu.
[11:36] <meleahbee> jrib: thank you.  I apologize, it seems i have to deselect all other dictionaries. I cannot simply make one default.
[11:36] <Shankysv87> for different reasons, sometimes will go to a hibranative ish state
[11:36] <mmcji> afternoon
[11:36] <megasquid> anyone know why ubuntu feisty, can't find the rubygems package using apt-get?
[11:36] <Bluhd> How do I set a permanent environment variable? Every time I use export, it's only for that single terminal instance
[11:37] <Shankysv87> my os
[11:37] <kishan> allex go to plugin select libnotify--configure it
[11:37] <mmcji> anyway to clear the arp cache in ubuntu without rebooting my server?
[11:37] <tcv> When I launch Firefox from GNOME, one of my plugins causes Firefox to hang. If I run it from command-line using same command, then it works okay. I am quite confused. What can I look at here?
[11:37] <kitsune> sldkfj: haha...
[11:37] <family> Hey you  guys. having a bit of trouble after upgrading from edgy to fiesty. Bootup hangs at the loading splash screen and gives me some weirdo green lines at the top of the screen
[11:37] <megasquid> anyone know why ubuntu feisty, can't find the rubygems package using apt-get?
[11:37] <tiop> mmcji: arp?
[11:37] <sldkfj> channel alert: 'third party items'  don't get much help here.
[11:38] <ladydoor> Bluhd: try putting it in your .bashrc
[11:38] <Allex> kishan, hmm, how to explain, its something you can write besides your name in msn....and is displeyed next to the name
[11:38] <tiop> ^ Person Message?
[11:38] <tiop> Personal, even.
[11:38] <corpuscallosum> megasquid,  control you sources list
[11:38] <dukedave> Bluhd: Place the export command at the bottom of the ~/.bashrc file
[11:38] <dukedave> Ooh, beaten :)
[11:39] <kishan> oops i got iti can use as status beside avaliable
[11:39] <Bluhd> dukedave: ok
[11:39] <mmcji> from ksh run arp
[11:39] <dukedave> (that gets processed every time a terminal is opened)
[11:39] <wy> It seems ubuntu removed acroread from the repository
[11:39] <megasquid> corpuscallosum:right, how would i know which repository its a part of?
[11:39] <mmcji> you will see what i am talking about
[11:39] <agimuno> how can I boot the livecd and see what the os is initiating, like you can see on many other distros
[11:39] <agimuno> like debian
[11:39] <agimuno> I have forgot
[11:39] <mmcji> i wish to clear this information, but would prefer not to reboot my server
[11:40] <wy> How can I install acroread for ubuntu 7? The one downloaded from adobe will not work.
[11:40] <corpuscallosum> megasquid, sudo wget http://rubyforge.org/frs/download.php/11289/rubygems-0.9.0.tgz try that
[11:40] <comrade> i have an issue with an ati radeon 9600 usnig the fglrx driver, it seems to crash when I switch from X to a veritual console via alt-tab, has anyone expierenced the same thing or have any work arounds
[11:41] <maccam94> comrade: that sounds familiar, it may be a bug
[11:41] <comrade> maccam94, it happens in ubuntu and arch so I think it is, it's odd though it doesn't affect my laptop which uses radeon m200 express
[11:41] <comrade> maccam94, was just checking to see if anyone had work arounds though
[11:42] <sldkfj> agimuno, enter 'dmesg' in a terminal and see what is logged?
[11:42] <maccam94> comrade: there might be, lemme google it
[11:42] <agimuno> I mean while booting
[11:42] <comrade> maccam94, haha you don't gotta do that, I already tried, and don't expect you to go that far
[11:44] <corpuscallosum> guys i need a programme that controls the cpu speed and fan
[11:44] <premier_> hello, my sound is broken (something with alsa) and i really don't know how to fix it: http://pastebin.ca/559748
[11:44] <atrus> hrm. nm-applet will connect to my wpa2 ap, but it fails to connect to open access points. /var/log/daemon.log suggests it's using wpa-supplicant, but i can't figure out what for
[11:45] <tyler_d> I have an external usb hd that I would like to share... ?
[11:45] <hajhouse> i'm seeking a recommendation for a good introductory/howto book on parser/lexer writing
[11:46] <maccam94> comrade: are you using fglrx or the xorg-ati driver?
[11:46] <KI4IKL> When I use gnome-art to download backgrounds, where does it put the files?
[11:46] <comrade> fglrx
[11:46] <comrade> i think its a bug for sure
[11:46] <maccam94> comrade: yeah, i think i remember that from the days i used gentoo with one of those cards
[11:46] <maccam94> try the xorg driver
[11:46] <comrade> nah its too slow
[11:46] <ladydoor> premier_: Out of curiosity, is the problem just that sound won't play? If so, would you mind pasting the output of the command "groups"?
[11:46] <maccam94> comrade: ooo
[11:46] <damianos_> hi
[11:47] <maccam94> i think i got it
[11:47] <tcv> When I launch Firefox from GNOME, one of my plugins causes Firefox to hang. If I run it from command-line using same command, then it works okay. I am quite confused. What can I look at here?
[11:47] <comrade> thanks though, the xorg is a lot more reliable but its slow as hell compared to fglrx
[11:47] <damianos_> I am looking for some solution to make videoconference with my wife
[11:47] <sn0> tcv run firefox in safe mode, then disable/uninstall/fix the plugin
[11:47] <sldkfj> KI4IKL, using firefox?
[11:47] <KI4IKL> no, the program gnome-art
[11:47] <maccam94> comrade: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/30447/comments/37
[11:47] <tyler_d> tcv: permissions?
[11:47] <sldkfj> try the tmp folder
[11:47] <premier_> ladydoor: yes, thats the problem in a nutshell... hold on
[11:47] <sn0> add -safe-mode to the end, when starting from the terminal
[11:47] <maccam94> i think that did it for me a while back
[11:47] <KI4IKL> Also, is there a way to get rid of the bars ont he side of my task bars?
[11:47] <premier_> premier adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin fuse
[11:47] <damianos_> She's got windows and we would like to see and talke via voice chat in one program
[11:48] <damianos_> is it possible in linux ?
[11:48] <premier_> ladydoor: it was working just yesterday
[11:48] <comrade> maccam94, alright I'll give it a try and see what happens
[11:48] <sn0> damianos_ check out wengaphone or ekiga
[11:48] <damianos_> ?
[11:48] <damianos_> sn0:
[11:48] <sldkfj> KI4IKL, those are the hide buttons,  look in preferences
[11:48] <tcv> sn0: But the plug in works when I run the same command from command-line.
[11:48] <ladydoor> premier_: Ah. And you changed the config since then?
[11:48] <KI4IKL> yeah, but there are still bars there after I remove those.
[11:48] <tyler_d> damianos: applications:internet:ekiga
[11:48] <damianos_> wengaphone is able for videoconference
[11:48] <damianos_> ekiga ?
[11:49] <damianos_> tyler_d:
[11:49] <tcv> tyler_d: Are permissions inherently different for applications run from GUI vs. command-line?
[11:49] <sn0> ekiga used to be called gnomemeeting, i used to use it for talking to people with ms netmeeting on windows, but not sure if it supports msn etc
[11:49] <damianos_> tyler_d: are you sure will this work ?
[11:49] <tyler_d> tcv: no, I am refering to how the plugin was installed.... and no
[11:49] <sn0> wengaphone is a seperate app, there is a client for ubuntu and other os too
[11:49] <premier_> ladydoor: well, no.  See, I was changing alsa, and then I got it how I wanted it, then I rebooted and it was fine.  But I rebooted a secound time and it didn't work.
[11:49] <sldkfj> KI4IKL, try xkill ina terminal and the cursor turns to a skull and crossbones,   they click the taskbar with it
[11:49] <tyler_d> damianos_: what do you mean work?
[11:49] <premier_> ladydoor: all I really changed was ~/.asoundrc
[11:49] <sldkfj> they = then
[11:50] <hajhouse> tcv: no they are the same
[11:50] <sldkfj> it will refresh
[11:50] <damianos_> work: I start it and my wife will be able to see me and hear me
[11:50] <ladydoor> premier_: Okay, that's just weird. I'm afraid I don't know in that case.
[11:50] <ladydoor> premier_: Sorry.
[11:50] <damianos_> webcam != videoconference
[11:50] <marcus_> Hello. Is there any reason I could not run gnome and kde switchable on the same computer?
[11:50] <mneptok> marcus_: no
[11:50] <Nutubuntu> marcus_ -  no reason
[11:50] <tyler_d> marcus_: no
[11:50] <sn0> damianos_ check the screenshots http://www.openwengo.com/index.php/openwengo/public/homePage/openwengo/public/projectsNgScreenShots
[11:51] <KI4IKL> sldkfj, that just kills X
[11:51] <KI4IKL> and restarts.
[11:51] <marcus_> Thank you.
[11:51] <KI4IKL> They are moving buttons.
[11:51] <sn0> on ubuntu you can install wengophone from your ubuntu sources, in apt-get/synaptic etc
[11:51] <sldkfj> nope
[11:51] <AlienX__> anyone know of a convenient way to search recursively through various directories in a given directory and gzip everything that contains a string of characters?
[11:51] <sldkfj> try killall gnome-panel ina terminal
[11:51] <AlienX__> err specific string of characters
[11:51] <damianos_> sn0: I will check it
[11:51] <Delirium-NL> How do i unrar *.R01>R02 etc files on ubuntu ?
[11:51] <sn0> hope it helps
[11:51] <tiop> damianos: Not that I've used, but a lot of people seem to like openwengo. There's also Ekiga, early version of Skype for Linux doesn't support video conferencing quite yet.
[11:51] <tyler_d> sn0: nice software, here's a quick one for you, do you know of a free switch for transmitting faxes ??
[11:52] <crimsun> Delirium-NL: unrar e (or rar e)
[11:52] <sldkfj> KI4KL, you do use gnome right?
[11:52] <Delirium-NL> thanks crimsun
[11:52] <tyler_d> sn0: ie. not over my phone line
[11:52] <tiop> Is there even a Windows port of Ekiga?
[11:52] <sn0> tyler_d to do what exactlly?
[11:52] <damianos_> tiop: Excuse me that i ask again
[11:52] <sn0> tiop i dont believe so, ekiga used to be for compatibility with netmeeting which is no more
[11:53] <tyler_d> sn0: to send a fax over the internet (free) and have it recieved on the other end
[11:53] <damianos_> is ekiga eble to make videoconference (voicie and video in one time)
[11:53] <tiop> damianos: Was actually scrolled up and didn't notice someone else had already replied, my bed. :P
[11:53] <damianos_> ?
[11:53] <sn0> tyler_d have you tried efax-gtk ?
[11:53] <comrade> maccam94, still crashes :/, damn ati and their lame drivers
[11:53] <KI4IKL> Okay, another question...is there a way to make windows go over taskbars?
[11:53] <tiop> It can but there isn't a Windows client.
[11:53] <tyler_d> sn0: yes
[11:53] <damianos_> I am askig because I ma useing kde in laptop so I need to download many libs form gnome :)
[11:53] <tyler_d> sn0: and gfax is glitchy
[11:54] <tiop> There's actually a beta version for the Windows port. :o
[11:54] <tyler_d> sn0: and kfax is a pain, wants every fax to be printed to a psp
[11:54] <sldkfj> not that I know of, I could be wrong though
[11:54] <sn0> damianos_ wengaphone uses qt libraries, what kde uses
[11:54] <sldkfj> KI4KL, you do use gnome ?
[11:54] <hatter> sn0, hylafax can send and receive faxes
[11:54] <damianos_> sn0: Ok thank you I will try wengaphone :)
[11:55] <tyler_d> hatter: hylafax is a server based fax program....
[11:55] <hatter> sn0, actually, hylafax is receives, but the website has quite a few clients
[11:55] <tyler_d> hatter: and it doesn't support internal modems... ie /dev/modem
[11:55] <sn0> tyler_d there you go hatter kindly mentioned another app
[11:55] <sn0> must admit i haven't done much faxing
[11:55] <sn0> damianos_ your welcome
[11:55] <tyler_d> sn0: tried that one....
[11:55] <hatter> tyler_d, internal modems ?  you mean winmodems ?
[11:56] <tyler_d> hatter: yes
[11:56] <sldkfj> KI4IKL, you do use gnome ?
[11:56] <agimuno> can someone help me find out how to see the boot text while booting from a live-cd, isn't there a button or a button combination to be pressed?
[11:56] <hatter> tyler_d, they work on linux ?
[11:56] <tyler_d> hatter: yes they do
[11:56] <agimuno> please
[11:56] <KI4IKL> Yeah, sldkfj
[11:56] <tyler_d> hatter: bit of a pain to get there, but the point is I don't want to have to use a modem.... want it over the net right :)
[11:56] <damianos_> sn0: there is no any info about wengaphone in google - strange
[11:57] <hatter> over the net ?  you need a provider then
[11:57] <SM7X> thx for support have to leave
[11:57] <SM7X> bye
[11:57] <hatter> email to fax gateway
[11:57] <sn0> wengophone damianos_
[11:57] <Delirium-NL> Anyone know how to fix viewing WMV file's on ubuntu? It works on my pc but the video's quality is fairly poor compared to windows.
[11:57] <tyler_d> hatter: looking for a free one... and yes
[11:57] <damianos_> sn0: ooo I see :)
[11:57] <hatter> well if you find a free one let us all know :)
[11:57] <tyler_d> hatter: lmfao
[11:58] <tyler_d> hatter: might just buy a whole bunch of winmodems and set them up on a server.... that would be cool
[11:58] <heroin>  Delirium-NL woon je in haarlem bij toeval?
[11:58] <tyler_d> hatter: then I will let you know
[11:58] <sldkfj> KI4KL, then that previous answer of mine should be restated as no  (having app windows cover the taskbar)
[11:58] <hatter> tyler_d, then you have to pay for the phone calls :)
[11:58] <damianos_> sn0: Do you have an account in wengophone /
[11:58] <tyler_d> hatter: I would think there should be a free one out there, seeing as how they are into voip and such
[11:58] <damianos_> ?
[11:58] <KI4IKL> sldkfj, yes, I use gnome.
[11:58] <heroin> Delirium-NL: which video player are u using and are u sure of the qaulity?
[11:59] <tyler_d> hatter: its just a transmit switcher.
[11:59] <Delirium-NL> @heroin, groningen =p
[11:59] <sn0> damianos_ i do
[11:59] <Delirium-NL> @heroin, yep the quality is fine but i see glitches in the video
[11:59] <heroin> Delirium-NL: ah ok because there is a club named delerium in haarlem :) but yah which video player are u using?
[11:59] <tyler_d> sharing an external drive over the network from the root, or a workaround?
[11:59] <KI4IKL> Does anyone know a way to make the taskbars sorta ghost and let windows go over them?
[11:59] <sldkfj> KI4IKL, that's what I use also
[11:59] <Delirium-NL> standard gnome " Movie Player "
[11:59] <Delirium-NL> works fine on avi etc
[12:00] <tyler_d> KI4IKL: define ghost?
[12:00] <heroin> KI4IKL: u mean that the taskbar is transparent?
[12:00] <tcv> Here's what's odd about my issue: When I launch firefox from the GUI, the plug-in works fine twice, but the third time is when it fails. And, again, if I run it as my user from cli, it works fine. I am testing with one page.
[12:00] <KI4IKL> no, I mean like where windows can go over them.
[12:00] <KI4IKL> They are behind windows.
[12:00] <heroin> Delirium-NL: movie player = totem.. urm.. if u have the disk space try VLC or mplayer and see if its totem related
[12:00] <tyler_d> KI4IKL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=302570
[12:00] <kharloss> hi there. if i want to installl kDE over an ubuntu server  how can i do this   ?  i have a nvidia card too
[12:01] <tyler_d> sudo apt-get install kde


[17:14] <krytarik> In context of  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2343305 , and the forums staff's reasoning for this, I've asked them if they deem it appropriate to do the same with our dedicated subforum there too, since it's really low-traffic as well - so should benefit both the forums and the users.  If anyone is opposed to this, please speak up.
[17:39] <krytarik> ..Oh, the reasoning is in another thread, here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2343728&p=13571828#post13571828
[18:19] <eylul> krytarik: I would argue that the role of multimedia subforum is different then what ubuntustudio is for. not content consumption, but content creation. thus it is different topics. *drops 2 cents*
[18:20] <krytarik> eylul: Did you read the topic of that though?
[18:20] <eylul> I read both topics
[18:21] <eylul> I am not against the idea of not having an ubuntustudio forum, but multimedia is a different thing than content creation
[18:21] <krytarik> For everyone else: "The place for your multimedia software questions: everything about using software for audio, video and image editing, display, or viewing and listening. This is also the place for Mythbuntu, or for MythTV installed in a flavour of Ubuntu. There is a dedicated sub-forum for Ubuntu Studio."
[18:26] <eylul> krytarik that still doesn't change that fact. basic image editing of family photos and discussion of advance topics of physics based materials in 3-D modeling doesn't belong in same forum, and would both mean very basic information and advanced level information different people are looking for would get lost in the din. I am happy to be outvoted through if people disagree.
[18:40] <krytarik> And as it looks, due to it being a dedicated flavor subforum, they are posting general questions there as well, unrelated to anything just mentioned.
[18:43] <krytarik> And afaics, we'll then be the only flavor with a dedicated subforum there.