[10:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> dylan_, that is your public IP address. When your machine comes online, it asks your ISP for an address. If 2 machines ask for and receive the same IP address, you get that conflict problem. You should either 1. turn off the other machine when using the other. or @. buy a router
[10:31] <czr> dylan_, SBC Internet Services?
[10:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> kong0 one second
[10:32] <chrisx1> Deter[Physics] , m fine tah
[10:32] <chrisx1> *im
[10:32] <SGershon> Hi.
[10:32] <dylan_> czr, yessir
[10:32] <Taxman> chrisx1, yeah, I searched for linux and I get nothing
[10:32] <SGershon> What's the matter with the unregged channel?
[10:32] <czr> dylan_, if so, then you have one public address and probably your ISP doesn't want to you have more
[10:32] <dylan_> The_Isle_of_Mark, i had a d-link router but now im using a switch....should i go back to the router?
[10:32] <The_Isle_of_Mark> dylan_, yes, for sure
[10:32] <chrisx1> Taxman, what are you looking for?
[10:32] <czr> dylan_, the solution is a NAT-router
[10:32] <Deter[Physics] > SGershon, it's to prevent bot attacks...
[10:32] <czr> dylan_, probably the d-link router will do this for you
[10:32] <dnB> RQ, still no change, strange
[10:32] <Taxman> I'm testing at the moment to see if I can get some results
[10:32] <Deter[Physics] > SGershon, register your nick and it wont forward you there
[10:33] <RQ> dnB, hmm
[10:33] <SGershon> Will it be like this for ever?
[10:33] <Deter[Physics] > SGershon, yes, this network encourages registered nicknames
[10:33] <chrisx1> ooo Taxman u mean gtk-gnutella... Did U Install 1 from source forge?
[10:33] <init8> hello people, I got a problem with 5.10 and my USB headset... it works via snd-usb-audio but it always runs at full volume as if it would override the mixers
[10:33] <SGershon> My nick is registered. But X-Chat register its after he open #ubuntu.
[10:33] <acetech> can someone point me to a good guide on preparing for a recovery if ubuntu was going to crash... something that will show how to fix grub, or a broken kernel bootup, etc... basically a resource I could have in the event ubuntu will not work
[10:33] <pete__> hey Deter, everytime i hit install new theme it crashes.
[10:33] <czr> dylan_, other possibility is running linux always on and use that for a router. you'll need two network interfaces for the linux and to learn how to setup NAT with it
[10:33] <dylan_> czr, thanks...will do!
[10:33] <SGershon> Deter[Physics] , My nick is registered. But X-Chat register its _after_ he open #ubuntu.
[10:33] <Stormx2> pete__: Crash-es... been so long since I heard that word.
[10:33] <Taxman> chrisx1, yeah, latest .96b version, sorry
[10:34] <B7su4> is there a peer gaurdian for linux/
[10:34] <pete__> heh Storm
[10:34] <Deter[Physics] > SGershon, then download one of those scripts that enter #ubuntu after nickserv has identified you
[10:34] <djk_> B7su4: yes, PG 1.5 afaik
[10:34] <pete__> it crashes
[10:34] <pete__> :-)
[10:34] <chrisx1> Taxman, lemme check my version
[10:34] <SGershon> Deter[Physics] , Will it be like this for ever?
[10:34] <primo|ubuntu> Does anyone here know a lot of about the sudoers list?
[10:34] <czr> any1 here using amarok with 5.10?
[10:34] <gpd> I am having difficulty with realplayer <IP_ADDRESS>6 on breezy - it is cripplingly slow when playing - nothing in the wiki...?
[10:34] <Deter[Physics] > SGershon, yes
[10:34] <SGershon> ;P
[10:34] <czr> primo|ubuntu, what about it?
[10:34] <init8> hello people, I got a problem with 5.10 and my USB headset... it works via snd-usb-audio but it always runs at full volume as if it would override the mixers
[10:35] <SGershon> Whatever.
[10:35] <czr> primo|ubuntu, there is a man-page for that file
[10:35] <B7su4> djk_,  how do i get it?
[10:35] <atchim> i use a laptop asus l3c60.. with ubuntu breeze.. i used hoary before np.. now just can't configure my keyboard right since i use portuguese language with accentuation... no layout i tryied before fits.. any suggest?
[10:35] <Deter[Physics] > pete__, sorry there mate, no idea why it keeps crashing. perhaps do a restart or something ?
[10:35] <djk_> B7su4: go to the PG site and download it?
[10:35] <primo|ubuntu> here's my problem: I found a linux guide which instructed me to add "USER ALL=(ALL) ALL" to my sudoers list, to allow USER to be able to sudo commands. This works, but I now find that 'sudo su' switches to root without prompting for a password. What should I do to change this?
[10:35] <czr> init8, probably it doesn't have its own mixer
[10:35] <arcanistherogue> hey, im getting an error when I try to run a game called stepmania.  It says that there is an error while loading the shared library liblua.so, and I went into synaptic and installed all packages partaining to lua, but still no go.
[10:35] <chrisx1> Taxman, lolz mine wont load atm being stupid lemme try summit else hold on a sec
[10:36] <czr> init8, and if software is using it directly (without a sound server in between), the volume will be dependant of the application outputting sound
[10:36] <init8> czr, it has got an own USB AUDIO OSS and an USB AUDIO ALSA mixer
[10:36] <gleesond> !java
[10:36] <SGershon> Quick Question: Is there some 'alarm application' that will play a sound (or movie) at a given time?Or is better to use Crontab?\
[10:36] <czr> init8, which one are you using?
[10:36] <gpd> anyone got realplayer working well under breezy?
[10:36] <init8> czr, XMMS volume control also seems to be overriden
[10:36] <pete__> i guess ill restart
[10:36] <gleesond> is there a good tutorial for installing java?
[10:36] <chrisx1> Hey all my programs take a while to load, any suggestions
[10:36] <amias> SGershon: at play sillynoise.wav
[10:36] <czr> init8, meaning that xmms volume control has no effect?
[10:36] <chrisx1> Taxman, i just .96b beta
[10:36] <init8> czr, Speedlink Medusa 5.1 / worked in stereo mode on suse 9.2 / yes, has no effect
[10:37] <czr> init8, xmms does not use the mixer in gnome
[10:37] <green-lantern> hello all
[10:37] <czr> init8, have you tried alsamixer on the command line?
[10:37] <B7su4> djk_,  i tried google but i cant find the right site
[10:37] <SGershon> amias, nice!
[10:37] <czr> init8, if you have multiple cards, alsamixer will use the first one (card 0)
[10:37] <dnB> ubotu, fluxbox?
[10:37] <czr> init8, start with alsamixer -c 1 to control the second
[10:38] <czr> init8, assuming you're using the alsa drivers
[10:38] <KumaSan> anyone playing with Dapper yet? if so, does the beagle search frontend (best) work for you?
[10:38] <dnB> omg, wheres ubotu :P
[10:38] <init8> czr, no more sound after starting alsamixer via commandline
[10:39] <Taxman> chrisx1, problem is firewalling
[10:39] <DC> any powerbook g4 users with screen resoltuion problems? would like to find live cd that's been updated with the fix.
[10:39] <czr> init8, interesting
[10:39] <Taxman> is ubuntu firewalled by default?
[10:39] <chrisx1> im behind nat
[10:39] <czr> init8, but you didn't say whether you use the oss or alsa drivers
[10:39] <chrisx1> taxman im behind nat
[10:39] <czr> init8, you shouldn't be using both
[10:39] <init8> czr, default
[10:39] <czr> init8, I wouldn't what the default is :-)
[10:39] <Deter[Physics] > Taxman, no, it isnt, you could download firestarter tho
[10:39] <init8> czr, I got an OSS and an ALSA USB mixer
[10:40] <init8> czr, dunno where they come from though
[10:40] <Taxman> I'm just trying to get some gnutella hits, Deter[Physics]
[10:40] <czr> init8, where do you see 'oss' and 'alsa usb mixer'?
[10:40] <kong0> The_Isle_of_Mark,  how is it going?
[10:40] <SGershon> amias, how to format the time? "Only UTC Supported".
[10:40] <init8> czr, in the volume control window
[10:40] <czr> init8, started from where?
[10:40] <SGershon> isn't there any crontab GUI?
[10:40] <init8> czr, from my gnome panel
[10:40] <czr> init8, ok
[10:41] <czr> init8, the oss is emulated via alsa
[10:41] <amias> SGershon: format it as UTC
[10:41] <Deter[Physics] > Taxman, why, tho?
[10:41] <SGershon> amias, can you explain?
[10:41] <czr> init8, err, not via alsa. but it is emulated. also it seems that the oss interface is the one that xmms sets
[10:41] <init8> czr, even after quitting 'alsamixer' I got no more sound, trying to unmute the channels...
[10:42] <czr> init8, alsamixer will restore volume to default when you start it. so after setting the volumes, remember to save them
[10:42] <myke> where can i find the 3 dif. commands to install kde
[10:42] <myke> -kde-core , kde, kubuntu-desktop?
[10:42] <SGershon> amias, isn't there any GUI for cron or at?
[10:42] <czr> init8, also sometimes the 'master' volume control doesn't work
[10:42] <myke> but which onje does what
[10:42] <ltibor65> How can I install graphic interface for Mplayer?
[10:42] <KumaSan> myke,  subuntu-desktop should do it.
[10:42] <chrisx1> myke, sudo apt-get install kbuntu-desktop
[10:42] <amias> SGershon: read the at manpage , 'man at'
[10:42] <czr> init8, but the PCM does, try controlling that
[10:42] <maunix> simple question: synaptic doesn't find my cdrom as a repository.  the cdrom is mounted were it always was. i didnt edited the repository list. any hint or link to read about the problem?
[10:42] <KumaSan> myke, er kubuntu
[10:42] <czr> init8, the gnome panel mixer by default only displays the master
[10:42] <Taxman> Deter[Physics] , to be honest, to sample some language lessons
[10:43] <init8> czr, my usbsoundcard (integrated) shows that its actually working
[10:43] <myke> KumaSan will that just install kde and not the apps
[10:43] <myke> ?
[10:43] <czr> init8, but you really should try using only the ALSA-side
[10:43] <init8> czr, how to change that?
[10:43] <djk_> B7su4: phoenixlabs.org IIRC
[10:43] <Deter[Physics] > Taxman, alright, well, there's no reason why you couldnt do that, no firewall exists by default
[10:43] <czr> init8, integrated usbsoundcard?
[10:43] <green-lantern> I have been looking for a solution for quite awhile now, getting Ubuntu to see 2 xp boxes
[10:43] <KumaSan> myke, apt-cache show packagename will tell all it's primary dependencies
[10:43] <green-lantern> samba us running
[10:43] <czr> init8, well, in the gnome volume control application, File/Devices, use the ALSA one
[10:43] <Taxman> Deter[Physics] , it seems my network here it
[10:43] <init8> czr, yes, integrated 5.1 soundcard in the usb cable :D
[10:43] <czr> init8, that is sick :-)
[10:44] <czr> init8, but integrated where? on the motherboard?
[10:44] <czr> init8, or you mean you plug in the card into usb?
[10:44] <init8> czr, the soundcard sits on the same cable as the headset
[10:44] <czr> init8, then it is not 'integrated'. integrated normally means something that is present on the motherboard
[10:44] <czr> init8, ahh
[10:44] <dnB> RQ, apparently doing the menu update reconfiged a file '/etc/X11/fluxbox/fluxbox-menu' which i needed to manually cp to ~/.fluxbox/menu , thanks for the help, everythings there now :)
[10:44] <Jormundgand> Question: How do I get Flash to use ALSA for sound in Firefox 1.5?
[10:45] <SGershon> amias, I tried, but I can't get the grasp!
[10:45] <RQ> dnB, you can simply delete ~/.fluxbox/menu
[10:45] <RQ> the system-wide menu will be used then
[10:45] <chrisx1> i got a q is my memory meant to be 100% use?
[10:45] <czr> init8, you can also check that maybe some volume controls are missing from the gnome volume control (Edit/Preferences)
[10:45] <init8> czr, unmuting all channels, still no sound
[10:45] <dnB> RQ, ah, i see :)
[10:46] <czr> init8, you also need to set levels up
[10:46] <init8> czr, I am not THAT dumb ;D
[10:46] <czr> init8, normally Master + PCM :-)
[10:46] <gpd> is realplayer 10.x known to be slow / broken in breezy?
[10:46] <czr> init8, didn't say you were :-)
[10:46] <Deter[Physics] > chrisx1, umm, no
[10:46] <SGershon> So... Isn't there any crontab/at GUI?
[10:46] <czr> christel, which tool are you using to deduce 100% usage?
[10:46] <amias> SGershon: at 21:46
[10:46] <Deter[Physics] > SGershon, not that i know of, google is your friend tho
[10:46] <amias> SGershon: then it will ask you for commands to run at that time
[10:46] <czr> SGershon, crontab is simple enough not to require GUI
[10:47] <chrisx1> Deter[Physics] , its always in 90's or maybe 100%
[10:47] <chrisx1> slows me down a lil
[10:47] <atchim> can someone aid me?
[10:47] <SGershon> czr, amias, Maybe after yo uget used to it.
[10:47] <init8> czr, anymore ideas?
[10:47] <amias> SGershon: then press Ctrl+D to stop entering commands
[10:47] <czr> SGershon, compared to many other stuff that doesn't have a GUI, crontab is the smallest problem. man crontab
[10:48] <Mabus06> Excuse me, does anyone know why the people of #ubuntu-fr are allowed to be so blatantly not adhering to the CoC?
[10:48] <czr> init8, weird
[10:48] <Mabus06> They say that if you're from Quebec you're not allowed to be there.
[10:48] <Mabus06> Which is extremly prejudiced.
[10:48] <pete__> Deter
[10:48] <cowbud> Mabus06: yah it is irc though and anyone can do what they want..
[10:48] <pete__> thanks the reboot fixed the theme install problem.
[10:48] <amias> Mabus06: well they are french
[10:48] <init8> czr, if i reboot im sure i got 100% again
[10:48] <cowbud> Mabus06: if they want to be ass holes then let them..
[10:48] <Mabus06> amias, read the CoC
[10:48] <cowbud> amias: hah Amen
[10:48] <init8> czr, is there any way to force it through a mixer? ;D
[10:49] <czr> init8, yes, give me a sec
[10:49] <Mabus06> cowbud, no... they are an ubuntu channell and therefore the correct people need to know about this
[10:49] <atchim> err.. Could someone aid me?
[10:49] <chrisx1> closin xchat a min
[10:49] <czr> init8, on command line there is a tool called alsactl
[10:49] <SGershon> amias, thanks. Only now I understood that at was not a one-line command.
[10:49] <czr> init8, it has a manual page, and that would allow you to do whatever
[10:49] <SGershon> Done!
[10:49] <_jason> atchim, you need to aska  question
[10:49] <SGershon> Thanks!
[10:49] <cowbud> Mabus06: if you think so, I think you are just wasting your time
[10:49] <Jormundgand> Mabus06: The channel will be shut down on the 22nd since it'll be in defiance of French law, so =P
[10:49] <amias> Mabus06: login with another nick and tell them you live in tolouse
[10:49] <tlhiv> anyone using Gnome+Xcompmgr
[10:50] <czr> init8, but I'd first try enabling all the mixer choices in gnome volume control and testing on the (Alsa Mixer) side (in gnome volume control)
[10:50] <tlhiv> trying to make gnome-panel transparent but not the icons on the panel
[10:50] <Mabus06> amias, I'm not from Quebec. But I'm still disgusted.
[10:50] <czr> tlhiv, that is not possible
[10:50] <init8> czr, testing...
[10:50] <maunix> simple question: synaptic doesn't find my cdrom as a repository.  the cdrom is mounted were it always was. i didnt edited the repository list. any hint or link to read about the problem?
[10:50] <_jason> Mabus06, you're right, I don't know who you would talk to though.  Wait for one of the ops to be on here
[10:50] <czr> tlhiv, xcompmgr sets the transparency of any window and the panel is one window
[10:50] <tlhiv> czr: is it expected to be anytime soon (gnome panel devel)?
[10:50] <tlhiv> right
[10:51] <czr> tlhiv, you could ask the panel folk. I think it's quite difficult to override, not sure even if possible at all
[10:51] <atchim> i use a laptop asus l3c60.. with ubuntu breeze.. i used hoary before np.. now just can't configure my keyboard right since i use portuguese language with accentuation... no layout i tryied before fits.. any suggest?
[10:51] <czr> tlhiv, it would require using a separate XWindow for each icon in order to work with xcompmgr
[10:51] <init8> czr, got it
[10:51] <tlhiv> right
[10:51] <czr> init8, what was it?
[10:51] <amias> SGershon: the command line just specifies the time to run your commands at , on execution it prompts you for which commands you want to run , press ctrl+d to end
[10:51] <B7su4> can i use rpms in linux?
[10:51] <init8> czr, thanks, but who thought it would be the USB Audia (Alsa Mixer)
[10:51] <init8> czr: on SPEAKER 2 ;D
[10:51] <pete__> Deter i got it installed :-)
[10:52] <Enfors> Having DNS problems: When applications (Firefox, IRC client, etc) run DNS queries, there's a delay of about 20 seconds before they go through. But when I use "nslookup" from the shell, it's instantaneous. Why?
[10:52] <czr> init8, well, alsa mixer mappings are weird sometimes :-)
[10:52] <czr> init8, the drivers assume the mappings and for your hardware they guessed wrong
[10:52] <init8> czr, thanks a lot, interstingly it worked right from start on suse92
[10:52] <pete__> can anyone help me, my microphone does not seem to work?
[10:52] <czr> init8, it's an issue in most alsa sound drivers
[10:52] <amias> B7su4: they are normally a redhat thing but you can use alien to make a .deb version , this might not work for everything
[10:52] <Mabus06> _jason, I did, and it's being looked into.
[10:52] <czr> init8, different version of driver :-)
[10:52] <init8> czr, thanks a lot
[10:52] <Falstius> Enfors: did you double check that all of the servers are correct?
[10:52] <czr> init8, it could be fixed with proper hw-database giving the channel mappings, but I don't think that ubuntu goes that far
[10:53] <czr> init8, np, have fun :-)
[10:53] <B7su4> .deb versions are for ubuntu?
[10:53] <Enfors> Falstius: Yes, the servers are correct (as entered in System -> Admin -> Networking)
[10:53] <pete__> can anyone help me with my microphone?
[10:54] <czr> B7su4, for debian-based distributions
[10:54] <Falstius> *shrug* I've seen similar things when the secondary or tertiary nameservers are wrong
[10:54] <czr> B7su4, ubuntu is debian-based
[10:54] <B7su4> czr, okay
[10:54] <_jason> atchim, have you tried asking in #ubuntu-br?
[10:54] <Enfors> Falstius: Hmm, I'll try removing the secondary one, maybe it's wrong
[10:54] <atchim> not yet.. but thks for advice..
[10:55] <Falstius> did you try pinging them?
[10:56] <Enfors> Pinging works fine (on the first one, removed the second one now)
[10:56] <init8> happy troubleshooting... thanks czr
[10:56] <Enfors> Aha. Removing the secondary DNS server seems to have solved it. It must be wrong then. Thanks for the help!
[10:56] <SGershon> amias, I entered hte command, asked for a "at -l" and it was there.
[10:56] <SGershon> amias, But when the time came,m nothing happened!
[10:56] <jon_> anyone know how I can install fluxbox as my WM?
[10:56] <Chris_Tucker> i just switched to a 686 kernel. now when i try to run a particular source installer, i get this "Makefile:166: *** Cannot find a kernel config file.  Stop."  what do i need to do?
[10:57] <czr> init8, heh, I'm just too lazy to do real work so I'm helping ppl here ;-)
[10:57] !lilo:*! Whoops, forgive that brief glitch on our part.
[10:57] <Falstius> Enfors: no problem
[10:57] <pete__> czr, can you help me with my microphone
[10:57] <czr> pete__, what's wrong with it?
[10:57] <pete__> it doesn't seem to work.
[10:57] <erUSUL> Chris_Tucker, install linux-header for your kernel
[10:57] <acetech> can someone point me to a good guide on preparing for a recovery if ubuntu was going to crash... something that will show how to fix grub, or a broken kernel bootup, etc... basically a resource I could have in the event ubuntu will not work
[10:57] <pete__> my sound works percfectly, but no mic.
[10:57] <czr> pete__, what software are you using?
[10:57] <pete__> teamspeak, sound recorder
[10:58] <pete__> several things.
[10:58] <jon_> Anyone know how to install fluxbox and use it as the default WM?
[10:58] <Chris_Tucker> erUSUL, i'll try, but i think its already installed
[10:58] <czr> pete__, did you check gnome volume control too? (started via the audio -icon on gnome panel)
[10:58] <pete__> yes
[10:58] <erUSUL> Chris_Tucker, sorry i missread your question
[10:58] <pete__> mic is turned up so is line in.
[10:58] <Dido-> What's line should I write to mount /dev/hdb5 to /mnt/187 with write acces to my default user?
[10:58] <czr> pete__, but are they selected for input?
[10:58] <amias> SGershon: are you sure your commands have an effect , textual output will probably be thrown away or emailed and will not appear in the terminal
[10:58] <MaFiaBoY> pete__ > did you ativate it in Volule Control ?
[10:58] <Chris_Tucker> erUSUL, you may be correct regardless
[10:59] <pete__> how do i do this?
[10:59] <czr> pete__, the 'toggle audio capture on/off' button on 'capture' page in volume control
[10:59] <acetech> nm, i think i found it at sysresccd.org
[10:59] <czr> on each potential input channel
[10:59] <czr> I used to do all of this via command line
[10:59] <Chris_Tucker> erUSUL, heh, i was right, you are correct, linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686 isnt installed
[10:59] <pete__> they are
[10:59] <Chris_Tucker> thanks erUSUL
[10:59] <czr> but since you don't do it so often, one has to resort to man a bit too much
[11:00] <pete__> set to capture.
[11:00] <SGershon> amias, I tried to play a movie, on my test, to be sure to see it happening!
[11:00] <czr> pete__, so no red crosses?
[11:00] <pete__> no.
[11:00] <czr> pete__, from the mixer application, go to Edit/Preferences
[11:00] <czr> pete__, then enable everything that is listed there (probably a lot)
[11:00] <pete__> i got it fixed.
[11:00] <pete__> it was set to
[11:00] <pete__> mic
[11:01] <pete__> but it also has option front mic
[11:01] <czr> pete__, oh? heh
[11:01] <pete__> which is where mine is at :-)
[11:01] <tritium> !enter
[11:01] <czr> pete__, good
[11:01] <pete__> god
[11:01] <pete__> eveytime i think
[11:01] <pete__> there is a problem to make me run back to windows.
[11:01] <tritium> pete__, please don't use enter as punctuation
[11:01] <pete__> i love linux more.
[11:01] <pete__> sorry tritium, i am bad at using one sentance :-0
[11:01] <czr> pete__, it will take some time, after couple of years you won't want to use windows
[11:02] <pete__> i don't want to use windows now.
[11:02] <SGershon> !crontab
[11:02] <czr> and ubuntu is one of the nicest/friendliest distributions around (imho)
[11:02] <Seveas> ubotu gone again?
[11:02] <tritium> yes
[11:02] <czr> Seveas, yes
[11:02] <Seveas> cafuego, ICMP_ECHO_REQUEST
[11:03] <pete__> in team speak, the test option still isn't hearing me.
[11:03] <czr> pete__, haven't used the software, sry
[11:03] <czr> pete__, if the sound recorder works, then it's an issue in team speak most probably
[11:04] <pete__> nm, got it working just so many options it's rediculous.
[11:04] <czr> pete__, linux is all about options ;-)
[11:04] <pete__> i meant teamspeak, i am used to ventrilo but they donot have a linux version yet.
[11:04] <Seveas> !test
[11:05] <czr> is team speak a speech/net server for gaming?
[11:05] <kong0> how do i uninstall stuff_!
[11:05] <czr> kong0, synaptic or sudo apt-get remove package_name
[11:05] <kong0> ok thx
[11:05] <Seveas> !repos
[11:05] <Ubugtu> I guess repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource, Seveas
[11:05] <Seveas> right, it works
[11:06] <pete__> czr teamspeak is voice chat.
[11:06] <Chris_Tucker> whats the best kernel for a p4? (please say my nick in reply, i am lagging so chat data floods in)
[11:06] <green-lantern> How can I be sure samba is running?  I cannot see ANY win boxes on network
[11:06] <djk_> Seveas: new bot?
[11:06] <builder> Is there an easier way to install the spca5xx driver that I need for my quickcam than recompiling and installing a kernel? This makes me a little nervous.
[11:06] <czr> pete__, not gaming related?
[11:06] <czr> pete__, commercial/closed source?
[11:06] <Seveas> djk_, only until ubotu returns
[11:07] <pete__> czr yes, it's designed for gamers.
[11:07] <builder> or, to put it another way, is there a way for me to select which version of gcc I want to use to compile a driver?
[11:07] <pete__> closed source yes.
[11:07] <corresponder> ole
[11:07] <starscalling> argishness
[11:07] <djk_> Seveas: ah okay.
[11:07] <czr> pete__, that explains why know 0 about it :-)
[11:07] <starscalling> i cant seem to find a hal layer
[11:07] <pete__> :-)
[11:07] <czr> pete__, the only closed source I use is vmware and intel C++ compiler
[11:07] <i> hey can someone show me an x config with 2 monitors runnin on 2 video cards/ not one
[11:07] <starscalling> nor can i get my alsa stuffzorz to run more than one sound application at a time
[11:07] <czr> pete__, and xbox, but that's a different story :-)
[11:07] <SGershon> amias, I tried with crontab, and it didnot happen again!
[11:07] <pete__> heh i am totally loving linux.
[11:07] <starscalling> like xmms and totem
[11:08] <starscalling> i didnt see what i was looking for in the forums either.... anyone mind pointing me in the right direction?
[11:08] <kong0> ehm...where/how do i uninstall stuff in synaptics?
[11:08] <czr> builder, you should use the same version as you did for the kernel
[11:08] <starscalling> kong0, go to what you installed and right click on it
[11:08] <starscalling> you get a few options like uninstall or remove completely
[11:08] <starscalling> completely means config files too ;)
[11:09] <kong0> ok
[11:10] <pete__> czr, got an x360 yet?
[11:10] <acetech> what is recommended for an install script on ubuntu breezy?  i was checking out http://mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/ and it seems this is mostly for hoary.
[11:10] <czr> pete__, nope. will get it next year after summer
[11:10] <fishhead>  richard pryer died :(
[11:10] <ipricku> why would anyone want a 360?
[11:10] <czr> pete__, don't have a lot of time to play now anyway
[11:10] <pete__> czr i wonder how long till i can get an ubuntu x360 :-)
[11:10] <corresponder> 360?
[11:10] <czr> ipricku, for the same reasons they got xbox?
[11:11] <ipricku> really?
[11:11] <czr> although I've heard that they overheat ;-)
[11:11] <anthony> should I install mplayer-386 or mplayer-586 if my system is 685?
[11:11] <ipricku> so it can set your house on fire, and scratch your data...
[11:11] <anthony> should I install mplayer-386 or mplayer-586 if my system is 686=
[11:11] <czr> ipricku, yes!
[11:11] <ipricku> why would you give him any more money
[11:11] <czr> ipricku, why not?
[11:11] <czr> ipricku, I spend money on less-intelligent stuff as well
[11:12] <czr> and sony is as evil as ms anyway
[11:12] <blue-frog> anthony, m586
[11:12] <ipricku> im not sayin by a ps3
[11:12] <ipricku> you own a cpmouter obviously
[11:12] <ipricku> computer
[11:12] <czr> yes. for the past 16 years. and?
[11:12] <corresponder> ui
[11:12] <fishhead> actually
[11:12] <Seveas> ipricku/czr #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:12] <anthony> blue-frog: thx
[11:12] <ipricku> ok well then lets get back on topic
[11:13] <ipricku> can someone show me a wiki on dual monitors on 2 different video cards?
[11:13] <fishhead> pentium classic/mmx optimizations SLOW DOWN ALL CPU'S except actualy intel pentium classic or mmx
[11:13] <jon_> I installed GCC, but I cannot find it. It isn't in the applications menu...Where could it be? Anyone know?
[11:13] <fishhead> it will slow down a pentium II etc
[11:13] <czr> ipricku, 4 total monitors?
[11:13] <ClayG> What's the console command to display how much space is available and how much is used on a hard drive?
[11:13] <Seveas> jon_, you run gcc from the terminal...
[11:13] <ClayG> something like free but for harddrives?
[11:13] <ipricku> czr: no
[11:13] <jon_> how do I do that...
[11:13] <builder> I have gcc 3.4 and 4.0 both installed, but 4.0 is the version linked as just gcc. I need to use 3.4. How can I switch them?
[11:13] <erUSUL> jon_, gcc will no show up in menus is a command line app
[11:13] <Seveas> ipricku, the gentoo docs have a nice howto on setting up xorg.conf for that
[11:13] <ubuntu_> clay - df
[11:13] <northie> are ./configure:s supposed to end on Hacking autoconf.h?
[11:13] <erUSUL> ClayG, df -h
[11:13] <ipricku> czr: im to lazy to go to the store and get the converter i have 2 video cards pci and agp
[11:13] <ClayG> df
[11:13] <northie> Becase that's where mine seem to end up.
[11:13] <czr> ipricku, you have two devices, each with correct BusID "PCI:1:0:0" or similar
[11:14] <ClayG> thank you
[11:14] <jon_> oh, so if I want to compile something I just copy and paste the source into terminal and it'll compile?
[11:14] <jax0m> http://www.nick15.com/comics/political/freedoms.jpg
[11:14] <jobezone> anyone knows which kernel to use for those which have a non-64bits AMD Sempron? K7, right?
[11:14] <czr> ipricku, so start with lspci listing to get the pci bus numbers and ids, then add the second Section "Device" with proper driver settings etc
[11:14] <ipricku> czr: ok
[11:14] <ipricku> czr ty
[11:14] <czr> ipricku, then you combine them later in ServerLayout section. I think google should help you here, it's not ubuntu-related
[11:14] <ubuntu_> I am running ubuntu livedvd for the first time. Is ubuntu the debian "replacement" or a completely distro all together?
[11:14] <fishhead> jobe k7 or 686 optimizations
[11:15] <czr> I'm doing dual-head with separate screens (not xinerama)
[11:15] <ipricku> czr yeah i found something on google before... i didnt know if it was the same or not
[11:15] <ClayG> and thanks for the -h
[11:15] <ClayG> very clean
[11:15] <Seveas> ubuntu_, ubuntu is a complete linux distro, based on debian
[11:15] <erUSUL> ubuntu_, a completly debian-based different distro
[11:15] <czr> ipricku, ask me later for help if you can't get it working
[11:15] <ipricku> ok
[11:15] <ipricku> tyl
[11:15] <erUSUL> ClayG, np
[11:15] <starscalling> acetech,
[11:15] <ipricku> be back in a few
[11:15] <starscalling> what do you mean by install script?
[11:15] <sexualpotatoes> i finally go my 32 bit cd w00t
[11:15] <starscalling> just usefull things to toss in?>
[11:15] <ubuntu_> thx
[11:16] <dnB> can someone help me out? when i attempt to sudo apt-get update i get 'W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3
[11:16] <dnB> '
[11:16] <sexualpotatoes> what is command to get ati drivers in terminal?
[11:16] <slew> whats an easy way to display my ip to me?
[11:16] <dnB> slew, ifconfig
[11:16] <slew> thanks
[11:16] <roy> hi, i have an iso that I want to emulate so the comp thinks its really on a cd, I know how to do it on windows but not on linux
[11:16] <jobezone> fishhead, thanks. I'm using k7, and wondered if 686 was better...
[11:16] <Jormundgand> roy: Use loopback device and mount it.
[11:16] <mrtwister> hello. installed breezy. now need msttfcorefonts, it is now not in repository. but i have windows at pc. how i can register fonts and update font-cache?
[11:17] <fishhead> yes
[11:17] <Seveas> dnB, gpg --recv 33BAC1B3 --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net && gpg --export --armor 33BAC1B3 | sudo apt-key add -
[11:17] <fishhead> it is
[11:17] <fishhead> don't use 586
[11:17] <fishhead> intel pentium classic and mmx were a very braindead cisc design
[11:17] <Seveas> mrtwister, msttcorefonts is in multiverse
[11:17] <czr> roy, sudo mount -oloop imagefilename.iso /mount/point (mount point needs to exist)
[11:17] <fishhead> optimizations for it actually HURT other cpu's
[11:17] <starscalling> eh there was a command to just add the key to the trusted keyring dnB though i apologize i dont remember exactly what it was....
[11:17] <jobezone> roy: found an howto at http://thomer.com/howtos/mount_loopback.html
[11:17] <dnB> Seveas, thanks, will i also need to do that with eash thats giving me an error?
[11:17] <czr> roy, when you're done, remember to umount /mount/point
[11:17] <starscalling> Seveas, is msttcorefonts fixed again?
[11:17] <mrtwister> Seveas: thank you
[11:18] <dnB> seveas, i also cant use yours :)
[11:18] <B7su4> i have a debian package how do i install it?
[11:18] <Seveas> dnB, only if the error is MISSING PUBKEY
[11:18] <LeeJunFan> is there a dpkg option which will show me the size of the installed packages so I know which ones are taking the most space?
[11:18] <Seveas> starscalling, was it ever broken?
[11:18] <dnB> Seveas, GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[11:18] <starscalling> yeah sure was Seveas
[11:18] <Seveas> B7su4, dpkg -i
[11:18] <czr> fishhead, optimizing for pentium doesn't hurt that much actually
[11:18] <SGershon> every time I open TOTEM, X crashes and I'm thrown to login screen again. Why?
[11:18] <starscalling> the links to the fonts had changed... testing from here now... calli
[11:18] <czr> fishhead, except on fpu-side
[11:18] <Chris_Tucker> whats the best kernel for a p4? (please say my nick in reply, i am lagging so chat data floods in)
[11:18] <fishhead> czr not what I heard in some kernel mailing lists or something
[11:18] <Seveas> dnB, yeah same trick. use the last 8 characters from the keyid
[11:18] <fishhead> but ok
[11:18] <dnB> seveas, thanks
[11:18] <starscalling> wow
[11:18] <starscalling> this is wierd
[11:19] <Jormundgand> Can anyone confirm or deny that a fix for cdrecord has been added to Ubuntu's version to solve this bug on Debian's bugzilla? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=265747
[11:19] <czr> fishhead, depends on many things. cache is different yes, but gcc doesn't optimize for caches
[11:19] <primo|ubuntu> Does root even need to be in the sudoers file?
[11:19] <Seveas> primo|ubuntu, no
[11:19] <fishhead> someone should just write a quick tool to scan cat /proc/cpu for stepping etc and tell you what to use for cpu flags
[11:19] <fishhead> I mean gcc flags
[11:19] <starscalling> it grabbed cabextract.,.. and pops up a screen... devconf stuff... though that might be something i did as i did a dpkg-reconfigure -a recently as i recall
[11:19] <roy> czr or jobezom, why are the things that each of u said different....which shud i do?
[11:19] <czr> fishhead, optimizing is much harder than just throwing random options to gcc
[11:20] <primo|ubuntu> i found that sudo su was logging me in as root without checking for a password
[11:20] <fishhead> czr I know
[11:20] <dnB> Seveas, im still getting the same issue, after i 'gpg --recv 1135D466 --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net && gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -'
[11:20] <roy> jobezone *
[11:20] <czr> roy, which processor do you have? and are you building your own kernel or using ubuntu-one?
[11:20] <primo|ubuntu> so i added !/bin/su to my user
[11:20] <fishhead> czr I am quite linux rusty but I remeber some of this
[11:20] <fishhead> :P
[11:20] <Seveas> dnB, even after apt-get update?
[11:20] <roy> im using ubuntu
[11:20] <dnB> Seveas, yes
[11:20] <primo|ubuntu> and then found that sudo sudo su would log in as root without checking for a password
[11:20] <roy> err kubuntu
[11:20] <roy> but same thing
[11:21] <Millenniumgroup> primo, yeah you stay as root, but it's dangerous too
[11:21] <starscalling> !paste
[11:21] <Ubugtu> Somebody said paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text, starscalling
[11:21] <Seveas> primo|ubuntu, sudo remembers passwords for a certain amount of time...
[11:21] <sklav> does anybody know if i have to use nvidia legacy for a nvidia gforce 2 mx?
[11:21] <czr> fishhead, I wrote a script to generate 2000 permutations of gcc options for couple of benchmarkin softwares, then run it (takes ages), then test the executables on many different systems. it's funny what happens with different gcc-versions, differect -O-settings, different -march-settings. counter-intuitive most of the time
[11:21] <raphink> primo|ubuntu: sudo -i does that too
[11:21] <fishhead> cool
[11:21] <primo|ubuntu> i removed root from the sudoers list, it fixed the problem
[11:21] <czr> roy, which cpu?
[11:21] <Chris_Tucker> whats the best kernel for a p4? (please say my nick in reply, i am lagging so chat data floods in)
[11:21] <fishhead> czr http://flyback.databurn.net/new_room
[11:21] <starscalling> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5580 see?? broken from here
[11:22] <fishhead> czr as you can see I will need a lot of optimization info soon :)
[11:22] <czr> Filbert, heh
[11:22] <czr> uh, sorry
[11:22] <czr> fishhead :-)
[11:22] <Seveas> starscalling, ah....
[11:22] <fishhead> gotta finish washing the motherboards and cases
[11:22] <primo|ubuntu> bash: make: command not found
[11:22] <primo|ubuntu> is this a problem?
[11:22] <fishhead> and then doing a month of burn in testing first though
[11:23] <fishhead> :P
[11:23] <Deter[Physics] > Seveas, may i PM please? :)
[11:23] <Seveas> primo|ubuntu, only if you want to run make
[11:23] <Seveas> Deter[Physics] , sure
[11:23] <raphink> primo|ubuntu: install build-essential
[11:23] <czr> fishhead, it's nice to have a hobby ;-)
[11:23] <starscalling> now Seveas if i follow the link in a browser it goes to http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe?download&failedmirror=cogent.dl.sourceforge.net
[11:23] <starscalling> which is a server select screen
[11:23] <starscalling> so is there a way for me to mod the package?
[11:23] <roy> czr, I have a P4
[11:23] <primo|ubuntu> i figure i might want to sometime... did i miss something during installation?
[11:23] <starscalling> its been borked since breezy came out about
[11:23] <starscalling> [for me]
[11:24] <Seveas> starscalling, right, if I don't forget to fix it, i'll send in a patch next week :)
[11:24] <starscalling> awesome ^_^
[11:24] <czr> roy, use the 686
[11:24] <starscalling> ill remind you if its still no go next weekend then if thats ok?
[11:24] <starscalling> ;)
[11:24] <czr> roy, linux-image-2.6.12-10-686
[11:24] <czr> roy, you have hyperthreading in P4?
[11:25] <Chris_Tucker> whats the best kernel for a p4? (please say my nick in reply, i am lagging so chat data floods in)
[11:25] <corresponder> was issn the scene?
[11:25] <corresponder> oh worry
[11:25] <corresponder> wrong channel
[11:25] <czr> Chris_Tucker, read responses to roy please
[11:25] <Chris_Tucker> czr, 686?
[11:25] <SGershon> every time I open TOTEM, X crashes and I'm thrown to login screen again. Why?
[11:25] <czr> Chris_Tucker, yes
[11:25] <roy> czr, ya HT
[11:25] <Chris_Tucker> thanks czr
[11:25] <jon_> To anyone, do you know if I run through the Ubuntu installer disk I can go to the partitioning oping, partition then exit the cd?
[11:25] <czr> roy, with HT, use 686-smp
[11:25] <Jormundgand> Can anyone confirm or deny that a fix for cdrecord has been added to Ubuntu's version to solve this bug on Debian's bugzilla? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=265747
[11:25] <starscalling> wow that sux SGershon and sup btw :)
[11:25] <sklav> hey guys i have a an issue with my screen display
[11:25] <czr> Chris_Tucker, same goes for you if you have hyper threading, use 686-smp
[11:26] <roy> i already hve linux, I'm saying in linux how do I mount an image
[11:26] <sklav> it does nto seem to be centered properly
[11:26] <sklav> its off approx 4 milimiteres on the left
[11:26] <mister_roboto> czr: do you want smp with a dual-core amd too?
[11:26] <czr> roy, you have scrollback? I just answered that question a moment ago :-)
[11:26] <sklav> oops on the right
[11:26] <B7su4> Seveas, i tried but i do not understand
[11:26] <sklav> how can i fix this?
[11:26] <Chris_Tucker> czr, no HT on
[11:26] <Chris_Tucker> * that system
[11:26] <jon_> o.o
[11:26] <czr> mister_roboto, yes, but k7-smp in that case
[11:26] <B7su4> what all the comands mean
[11:26] <mister_roboto> czr: right... thanks
[11:26] <Seveas> B7su4, sudo dpkg -i filename_of_package.deb
[11:26] <SGershon> and when I try to unninstall totem, it says ubuntu-desktopdepends on it!
[11:27] <czr> Chris_Tucker, then just plain -686 version should be the 'best' :-)
[11:27] <erUSUL> SGershon, maybe problems with the xv extension of X. wich graphic card?
[11:27] <mrtwister> installed opera, need motif library, where it is?
[11:27] <ogg> Hello, I got a NTFS disk with winXP installed on it. I am planning to create a partition for ubuntu (with the partitionmanager during the ubuntuinstall). Will I be able to remove Ubuntu and make this ex3-partition merged with the NTFS later? - Have the same layout as before?
[11:27] <j2daosh> ok stupid question... what is the default pw for the root account for ubuntu?
[11:27] <Goldfish> roy: mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[11:27] <SGershon> erUSUL, ATI
[11:27] <Seveas> !tell j2daosh about root
[11:27] <czr> j2daosh, sudo :-)
[11:27] <roy> thats call czr?
[11:27] <sklav> erUSUL, its an nvidia
[11:27] <sklav> same issue on all 3 systems
[11:27] <j2daosh> i need to change permissions for my other drives but i dont have the default root password
[11:28] <sklav> 2 cards are nvidia 6200
[11:28] <czr> roy, goldfish answered you too
[11:28] <sklav> and 1 is nvidia mx2
[11:28] <Chris_Tucker> yea czr, i dunno about k7 on this notebook though, its amd sempron, but a few hrs ago i jumped to 686 from 386 and its running nice, for my graphics chipset i need 686
[11:28] <SGershon> erUSUL, ATI
[11:28] <czr> j2daosh, the root account is locked. use sudo su - to gain root shell or sudo command options to execute command with root privs
[11:28] <j2daosh> or atleast tell me where i can find it... i am completely new to linux so yeah... im f***ing clueless
[11:29] <sklav> sudo su -
[11:29] <czr> Chris_Tucker, you have a dual-core sempron on a notebook? :-)
[11:29] <roy> czr someone else answered me by giving me a lin, and the link said somethi9ng other than what you aid so I asked which should I use
[11:29] <j2daosh> from a normal terminal window?
[11:29] <czr> roy, both are ok
[11:29] <Jormundgand> j2daosh: use sudo. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo or whatever the link is.
[11:29] <czr> roy, mine was more permissive
[11:29] <roy> ok thanks
[11:29] <jon_> could I run the installer disc back up, and use the partitioning option then exit the installer disc?
[11:29] <j2daosh> oh thank you
[11:29] <SGershon> Why ubuntu-desktop depends on totem?
[11:30] <czr> SGershon, it's a pseudo-package that defines which packages should be installed to call it 'ubuntu desktop'
[11:30] <snafuzius> tach
[11:30] <czr> SGershon, i.e., it's not a normal binary software package at all
[11:30] <corresponder> moin
[11:30] <polf> Hello, I got a NTFS disk with winXP installed on it. I am planning to create a partition for ubuntu (with the partitionmanager during the ubuntuinstall). Will I be able to remove Ubuntu and make this ex3-partition merged with the NTFS later? - Have the same layout as before?
[11:30] <SGershon> So i can unninstall totem?
[11:31] <czr> SGershon, not without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop first (ppl, please correct me if this is not correct for ubuntu)
[11:31] <alanleclech> hello
[11:31] <Davey> SGershon, its used by Nautilus for movie thumbs, but if you don't care...
[11:31] <alanleclech> bonjour
[11:31] <corresponder> ole
[11:31] <roy> mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso ....... do I need a sudo before that.... also can it be /media/iso or does it have to be /mnt/iso?
[11:31] <Jormundgand> roy: If you use sudo then root will own the mount. The mount point can be any folder.
[11:31] <SGershon> So... How to fix X crasing when totem loads?
[11:31] <czr> roy, root is needed, can be whatever you like /media/iso sounds better than /mnt/iso
[11:32] <Dido-> What's line should I write to mount /dev/hdb5 to /mnt/187 with write acces to my default user?
[11:32] <NetGrunt> hi
[11:32] <Chris_Tucker> czr, not dual core sempron :P i didnt say -smp ..
[11:32] <corresponder> hi
[11:32] <NetGrunt> how can I make rythmbox play mp3 ?
[11:32] <Millenniumgroup> I say the future is ours if you can count :D
[11:32] <Goldfish> roy: filename.iso is your image file.../mnt/iso is the mount point you want. These are just examples.
[11:32] <alanleclech> alexissoft
[11:32] <Millenniumgroup> warriors come out and play yayayy ;)
[11:32] <masteryuri> how can i install a printer canon laser shot lbp-1120 ? it's possible?
[11:32] <czr> Chris_Tucker, if you need -686 for a graphics driver, then you need -686. all athlons support all of pentium II instructions, so it's not a problem
[11:32] <erUSUL> !mp3
[11:32] <Ubugtu> Somebody said mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, erUSUL
[11:32] <j2daosh> ok... now im stuck again... i chmodded the hda1, hda5, and hdb1... but it still says i dont have permission to view
[11:33] <j2daosh> do i need to add my user name to the owners group?
[11:33] <NetGrunt> cool, thanks
[11:33] <j2daosh> i thought that when i chmod 777 every user has access to it?
[11:33] <winterborne> is there a tool to choose the fastest server for apt-get.. ?
[11:33] <czr> j2daosh, you're doing something really wrong. what are you trying to achieve?
[11:33] <Chris_Tucker> czr, but its not athlon, its sempron
[11:33] <winterborne> i'm going at 8k/s right now :(
[11:33] <j2daosh> lol i want to be able to get into my other harddrives on the computer
[11:33] <czr> Chris_Tucker, sempron is the same core from compiler view point
[11:33] <techrush> mp3s dont  work "out of the box" on ubuntu ?
[11:33] <corresponder> maybe there are to much users connected?!
[11:34] <czr> techrush, no hey don't
[11:34] <Chris_Tucker> czr, cool
[11:34] <techrush> :(
[11:34] <erUSUL> NetGrunt, install gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[11:34] <AndyR> winterborne, use bit torrent?
[11:34] <techrush> thats really disapointing
[11:34] <techrush> is it hard to setup ?
[11:34] <Goldfish> winterborne: /usr/bin/netselect-apt
[11:34] <guerby> hi, does anyone know if it's possible to install ubuntu 5.10 through PXE (network only) boot?
[11:34] <Ubugtu> Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu Bugzilla bugzilla: not well-formed (invalid token): line 88, column 76
[11:34] <erUSUL> !ubugtu
[11:34] <winterborne> AndyR, eh?
[11:34] <Ubugtu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel
[11:34] <winterborne> Goldfish: thanks :)
[11:34] <czr> techrush, quite easy to setup if you want to violate potential patenting clauses
[11:34] <polf> mp3 does not work out of the box in ubuntu.
[11:34] <alanleclech> coucou
[11:34] <james_> hi all :) has anyone tried to install cedega under ubuntu?
[11:34] <j2daosh> i got 3 harddrives on my desktop but i dont have permission to view any of them... is it because they are windows partitions?
[11:34] <alanleclech> alexissoft ???
[11:35] <Jormundgand> Can anyone confirm or deny that a fix for cdrecord has been added to Ubuntu's version to solve this bug on Debian's bugzilla? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=265747
[11:35] <SGershon> No one saw this before?
[11:35] <czr> j2daosh, probably, never used ubuntu on ntfs-machine, can't be certain
[11:35] <AndyR> winterborne, bit torrents are probably best way to get iso's
[11:35] <alanleclech> alexisssoft
[11:35] <czr> j2daosh, what are you trying to achieve?
[11:35] <masteryuri> how can i install a printer canon laser shot lbp-1120 ?
[11:35] <Goldfish> winterborne: Package is netselect-apt, and it is in the universe.
[11:35] <j2daosh> i wan't access to the harddrives lol
[11:35] <j2daosh> want
[11:35] <techrush> yeah im not worried about patenting clauses or whatever
[11:36] <czr> Jormundgand, can't you install cdrecord and read /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/changelog*?
[11:36] <rem__> how did you mount them j2daosh ?
[11:36] <_jason> Ubugtu, tell masteryuri about print
[11:36] <czr> techrush, check the wiki, there are instructions there
[11:36] <j2daosh> i didn't... ubuntu did
[11:36] <techrush> ok
[11:36] <j2daosh> lol
[11:36] <techrush> still downloading the ISO
[11:36] <j2daosh> and that is why huh
[11:36] <masteryuri> thanks _jason
[11:36] <j2daosh> because i haven't done the mnt hda1 thing huh
[11:36] <Jormundgand> czr: That won't give bugzilla numbers and I can't be sure that it will actually be the bug referred to.
[11:36] <RQ> gnomefreak, wb
[11:36] <_jason> masteryuri, did you receive something?
[11:36] <alanleclech> ALXISSOFT
[11:37] <j2daosh> or whatever the mount command is
[11:37] <masteryuri> yes _jason
[11:37] <czr> Jormundgand, bugzilla numbers are normally in changelog.Debian:s
[11:37] <czr> or at least should be
[11:37] <rem__> what you have when you type "df" in console ?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> ty RQ
[11:37] <_jason> masteryuri, okay because it didn't notify me :)
[11:37] <gnomefreak> screw dapper
[11:37] <jbroome> quack
[11:37] <RQ> gnomefreak, so how 'bout my screwing X? :P
[11:37] <masteryuri> _jason, no problem ;)
[11:37] <RQ> gnomefreak, do you get the same view? :))
[11:37] <oblib> anyone had problems with suspend2?
[11:37] <masteryuri> _jason, he get me two links
[11:38] <masteryuri> gets*
[11:38] <gnomefreak> RQ, no X was fine everything else was broken including x-chat sources so on and so forth
[11:38] <JazzCrazed> hi all
[11:38] <nekostar> yay audio solved :)
[11:38] <_jason> masteryuri, yeah, the first one has ubuntu user comments about printers.  The linuxprinting one is more extensive.  Look for your printer there
[11:38] <nekostar> hi JazzCrazed
[11:38] <oblib> or anyone know how to fix nvidia problems with suspend2?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> firefox broken too
[11:38] <Dido-> damn... What's line should I write to mount /dev/hdb5 to /mnt/187 with write acces to my default user?
[11:39] <RQ> gnomefreak,  :DD
[11:39] <j2daosh> crap... what is the break command for ubuntu?
[11:39] <JazzCrazed> has  nebody here installed ubuntu 5.10 on a computer that has a PATA drive as hda, and 2 drives in RAID 1 as hdb?
[11:39] <Ubugtu> Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu Bugzilla bugzilla: not well-formed (invalid token): line 88, column 76
[11:39] <j2daosh> ctrl + c aint working
[11:39] <JazzCrazed> 2 SATA drives i shud say
[11:39] <zgyeeS> is it possible to install xubuntu without an internet connection?
[11:39] <nekostar> yay now that its fixed on to breaking my machine for the weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:39] <masteryuri> ok _jason, too kind ;)
[11:39] <rem__> highlight and middle button
[11:39] <j2daosh> i cant get out of man
[11:40] <rem__> or right click copy and then paste ..
[11:40] <j2daosh> whats the break command?
[11:40] <rem__> type "q" to get out
[11:40] <Goldfish> nekostar: Go for it!
[11:40] <gnomefreak> zgyeeS, maybe from the cdrom repo
[11:40] <nekostar> ^_^
[11:40] <j2daosh> oh... :) thank you very much rem
[11:40] <zgyeeS> gnomefreak i thing there is no installation cdroom for xubuntu yet.. if so, where can i download it?
[11:40] <JazzCrazed> nebody using PATA drive as hda and 2x SATA drive in RAID 1?
[11:40] <rem__> do you see yuor ntfs (windows) partition in "df"
[11:40] <rem__> ?
[11:41] <Alvi1> I'm having su and sudo problems, sudo <command> returns "sudo: pam_authenticate: Module is unknown" and su returns "su: Module is unknown" -- anyone know what's wrong?
[11:41] <gnomefreak> zgyeeS, i mean from the breezy cdrom
[11:41] <j2daosh> ok i want to just run something by yall real quick... if i see 3 hard drives on my desktop but cant access them... does that mean they aren't mounted?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> zgyeeS, if you installed ubuntu from cdrom there should be a cdrom repo in your sources list if you havent changed it
[11:42] <rem__> theres a tool called gparted, its like partition magic a little if you want to partition in graphic mode ..
[11:42] <Goldfish> j2daosh: Drives that are unmounted will only look like empty directories.
[11:42] <czr> j2daosh, open terminal, run df -T to see all active mounts
[11:42] <User06> hey
[11:42] <nekostar> eh anime then breaking system!
[11:42] <j2daosh> i can see them when i go to /dev/hda1 hda5 and hdb1
[11:42] <zgyeeS> thanks guys
[11:42] <czr> j2daosh, those are the names? if you press right mouse button on the icons, do you see mount or unmount there?
[11:42] <corresponder> me want beer too
[11:43] <Swedish_Chef> how's dapper drake doing right now, in terms of stability and reliability (ie: minimal  broken packages)?
[11:43] <rem__> ok but if they are not mounted you cannot access them ...
[11:43] <Goldfish> j2daosh: /dev/hda1 et al aren't mount points, instead they are device files.
[11:43] <j2daosh> it just says i dont have permission to view them... i chmod 777 but i still dont have permission
[11:43] <johndarkhorse> y'all can drink all the beer you want in #ubuntu-offtopic if you please
[11:43] <czr> j2daosh, but I'd really recommend you learn to use terminal and 'df -T'
[11:43] <rem__> create a directory ...for ex : sudo mkdir /win
[11:43] <j2daosh> when i right click it gives me the option to unmount
[11:43] <Webbie> Please support this channel with a click on http://www.ircsupport.de.pn
[11:43] <czr> j2daosh, then they're mounted
[11:43] <gnomefreak> whos running dapper in here?
[11:44] <corresponder> Webbie: ?
[11:44] <j2daosh> ok... then how am i supposed to give myself access to my drives?
[11:44] <Millenniumgroup> someone kick/Bann webbie
[11:44] <Millenniumgroup> it's a shit site
[11:44] <Webbie>  http://www.ircsupport.de.pn
[11:44] <j2daosh> nevermind
[11:44] <Stork> hi, i'm trying to run an ftp server on my machine. i installed atftpd from synaptic, and tried to use the command "atftpd --port 81 /home/alex/". it then says: "[directory]  must be a world readable/writable directories.
[11:44] <ompaul> !ops
[11:44] <czr> j2daosh, but probably only for root. check your /etc/fstab -file for entries and man mount and man fstab
[11:44] <Stork>  By default /tftpboot is assumed.", so i chmod'ed it to 777, and i get the same problem. any ideas??
[11:44] <Ubugtu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[11:44] <j2daosh> gtg
[11:44] <j2daosh> ty for the help
[11:44] <j2daosh> buh bye
[11:44] <Millenniumgroup> any ops around?
[11:44] <Millenniumgroup> kB Webbie
[11:44] <winterborne> Goldfish: i just ran netselect-apt, but it seems to only list debian mirrors.. do those differ in any useful way from the ubuntu mirrors?
[11:44] <JazzCrazed> i'm havin trouble installing breezy to a raid 1 setup...can ne1 lend some insight?
[11:44] <rem__> then: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /win
[11:44] <action09> anybody knows how to have php working on apache ? i have module installed in httpd.conf but trying to acces a php file ask me to open it with gedit :( apache is not running php
[11:44] <czr> Stork, your home directory is only readable/writable for you
[11:44] <rem__> ok 2bad ..
[11:44] <action09> please
[11:45] <Goldfish> winterborne: Well....that is what I used on my debian machines. :}
[11:45] <czr> rem__, they're already mounted
[11:45] <Stork> czr, oh, okay. where else could i use?
[11:45] <rem__> just makin sure ..
[11:45] <Goldfish> winterborne: BRB
[11:45] <czr> Stork, /var/ftp is the common place
[11:45] <Alvi1> I'm having su and sudo problems, sudo <command> returns "sudo: pam_authenticate: Module is unknown" and su returns "su: Module is unknown" -- anyone know what's wrong?
[11:45] <starbrand> so can you install a newer version of firefox through backports?
[11:45] <Stork> czr, good point, thanks very much
[11:45] <bor> action09: man apache-modconf
[11:45] <sexualpotatoes> how do i get to sources.list?
[11:45] <czr> Stork, also after installing network services you should use the service scripts to start/stop them, not manually
[11:45] <gnomefreak> Alvi1, what are you trying to do? the command and what you want done with it
[11:46] <czr> sexualpotatoes, /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:46] <action09> bor  ok thx
[11:46] <oblib> Here's a tricky one for someone -- I installed nvidia drivers by compiling them, and when the computer boots up, it can't load the nvidia modules. If I ssh in and run startx, it works fine. Why?
[11:46] <Millenniumgroup> I can pm Seveas right?
[11:46] <sexualpotatoes> thanks you
[11:46] <gnomefreak> starbrand, 1.0.7
[11:46] <Millenniumgroup> im not registered
[11:46] <Millenniumgroup> but he's a staff so it should go trough right?
[11:46] <Alvi1> gnomefreak: with sudo, I'm trying "sudo emerge anjuta"
[11:46] <bor> action09: apache-modconf apache enable mod_php4
[11:46] <gnomefreak> sexcopter8000m, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:46] <bor> action09: should work.
[11:46] <czr> oblib, running X over ssh doesn't start X server which needs nvidia
[11:46] <ompaul> oblib, >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org <<may help
[11:46] <N6REJ> ok, I don't know what I did but I've got X all messed up.  First it wouldn't load regular gnome and now it says gnome-failsafe is gone too!  HELP!!!
[11:46] <Seveas> Millenniumgroup, yes you can, but it's always polite to ask first :)
[11:46] <gnomefreak> Alvi1, install anjuta?
[11:47] <Goldfish> winterborne: Heheh. Here's the description on ubuntu's package site----> Choose the fastest Debian mirror with netselect <--- Not what you were looking for. Heheh
[11:47] <starbrand> that's not very new :(
[11:47] <Jormundgand> czr: cdrecord changelog seems to be filled with holes. I can find reference to the offending get_dmaspeed() function in the changelog, but not in changelog.Debian.
[11:47] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install anjuta Alvi1
[11:47] <Swedish_Chef> so nobody in here runs dapper?
[11:47] <Millenniumgroup> Seveas, of course, but I didn't know if you were online or not :)
[11:47] <Alvi1> gnomefreak: what do you mean? Anjuta is the least of my worries at the moment
[11:47] <Alvi1> oh
[11:47] <ompaul> N6REJ, the command I gabe oblib it may help you
[11:47] <Seveas> Millenniumgroup, '/whois Seveas' will tell you
[11:47] <JazzCrazed> ne1 here running ubuntu installed on a SATA RAID 1 setup?
[11:47] <Swedish_Chef> bor: how is it so far?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> Alvi1, emerge is a gentoo command
[11:47] <czr> Jormundgand, compare the dates on bugzilla report and the changelog entry then :-)
[11:47] <Millenniumgroup> I already sent a pm to ya, check your window
[11:47] <gnomefreak> apt-get is for debian
[11:48] <bor> Swedish_Chef: well, all the things I need are still running ;-)
[11:48] <Alvi1> I have emerge on my ubuntu box
[11:48] <Millenniumgroup> K I'll remmeber that in the future :)
[11:48] <czr> Jormundgand, might be that it is already fixed, but not reported in changelog.Debian if the fix was upstream (as it seems)
[11:48] <Alvi1> sudo returns the same error for everything
[11:48] <Swedish_Chef> bor: how buggy is it?
[11:48] <Alvi1> alvin@localhost:~$ sudo apt-get install anjuta
[11:48] <Alvi1> sudo: pam_authenticate: Module is unknown
[11:48] <Jormundgand> czr: Already did. changelog.Debian skips Friday, July 4, 2004, which is listed in changelog with the one reference to get_dmaspeed().
[11:48] <N6REJ> thanks ompaul I was trying xorg-common :(
[11:48] <gnomefreak> bor,  can you please paste your sources list in pastebin for dapper?
[11:48] <Jormundgand> I need an excuse to burn a CD.
[11:48] <djib> I heard that the originator of Ubuntu is now using KDE
[11:48] <bor> the only thing which broke was the fglrx-driver by upgrading to xorg7
[11:48] <Goldfish> Does having emerge on ubuntu constitute a "genuu" distribution?
[11:48] <czr> Jormundgand, debian might do changes at a different pace to upstream, they're normally not in sync
[11:48] <ompaul> Swedish_Chef, it is a development platform - it is not stable it will break that is all there is to say on that
[11:48] <Goldfish> gentuu
[11:48] <ardchoille> is it a bad idea to put sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in a cronjob?
[11:48] <djib> does it mean that Ubuntu is going to become KDE by default ?
[11:48] <Stork> czr, i tried the same thing after making /var/ftp/ and i got the same error
[11:48] <Jormundgand> djib: Kubuntu.
[11:48] <action09> bor ok thx for the doc but doing a "apache-modconf apache enable mod_php4" don't change anything (or with apache-ssl  i'm using)
[11:49] <Swedish_Chef> ompaul: yes, i'm familiar with that, but i want to know if it's comparable to debian sid
[11:49] <Swedish_Chef> which i ran for years before ubuntu
[11:49] <gnomefreak> Goldfish, i dont think ubuntu has emerge at all
[11:49] <bor> gnomefreak: why?  these are the same as they are on breezy.  you just need to substitute breezy with dapper.
[11:49] <czr> Jormundgand, and changelog.Debian is supposed to list what changes debian has done to upstream, so if upstream fixes something, there might not be an entry for that fix in changelog.Debian
[11:49] <Swedish_Chef> sid was quite stable, even though it's far more bleeding-edge than ubuntu
[11:49] <ompaul> Swedish_Chef, no it is more like emm experimental and sid on different days
[11:49] <Alvi1> portage/emerge can run on all systems
[11:49] <Goldfish> Somebody just wrote they had that on their machine. I was trying to think of a name for that.
[11:49] <czr> Stork, did you read my note about service scripts? ah, you disconnected in between
[11:49] <bor> action09: well, have you done a /etc/init.d/apache restart?
[11:49] <kittyfjun> what is the file that tells linux what to do on startup, for instance to start KDE?
[11:49] <action09> bor same
[11:49] <czr> Stork, let me see what the package does, give me a sec
[11:49] <N6REJ> ompaul,  whats the difference between "nv" and "nvidia" in the video card chipset manufacturer lsiting?
[11:49] <Stork> czr, sorry :(
[11:49] <gnomefreak> bor, cause i upgraded and the sources didnt work for 1 not a damn one of them :(
[11:49] <ompaul> N6REJ, no idea - don't do nvidia
[11:49] <czr> Stork, which ftp server was it?
[11:50] <Seveas> Swedish_Chef, ubuntu sync with sid every 6 months
[11:50] <Stork> atftpd
[11:50] <djib> Jormundgand, but Kubuntu is a different project... I mean I find Kubuntu a lot less polished than Ubuntu at the moment
[11:50] <czr> Stork, atftpd is not an FTP server
[11:50] <N6REJ> oh yeah, forgot your a mac guru :D
[11:50] <oblib> czr, what? I don't have a keyboard on the machine so I ssh. It starts up X just fine. What were you saying?
[11:50] <ompaul> N6REJ, no idea - don't do nvidia
[11:50] <czr> Stork, as it says, it's an TFTP server :-)
[11:50] <MrBlowtatoes> can someone tell me how to set up 'jack audio server'?
[11:50] <bor> Swedish_Chef: I don't run GNOME or KDE, I'm running fvwm2 and therefor I'm not able to tell you if anything broke on the desktop.
[11:50] <ompaul> N6REJ, no don't touch macs
[11:50] <Stork> czr, whoops :|
[11:50] <corresponder> MrBlowtatoes: install qjackctl
[11:50] <czr> oblib, when you ssh in and run startx, it will not start X server on the target machine. X server is started when you login locally and use startx
[11:51] <corresponder> or what did aou mean?
[11:51] <polf> gosh, theres soo many different window manager, dont really now which one to stick to :o
[11:51] <gnomefreak> if emerge is able to be used try installing it first also you are using your user name with sudo right?
[11:51] <maxkelley> hmmmm..
[11:51] <kittyfjun> how do i make linux just start on the command lin and not load a desktop?
[11:51] <maxkelley> firefox is segfaulting for me
[11:51] <Swedish_Chef> i love ubuntu's polish, but i miss sid and gentoo's up-to-dateness
[11:51] <polf> btw. hello Swedish_Chef, im also Swedish.
[11:51] <czr> oblib, at least normally. not 100% in ubuntu case though
[11:51] <Swedish_Chef> i ran unstable on both
[11:51] <maxkelley> can someone help
[11:51] <Swedish_Chef> polf: hiya. i'm not ;)
[11:51] <B7su4> Seveas, what was the command again?
[11:51] <_lee_> anyone here ever head of someone getting linux to run on a airpanel?
[11:51] <czr> kittyfjun, disable /etc/init.d/gdm service
[11:51] <Seveas> B7su4, sudo dpkg -i filename_of_package.deb
[11:51] <action09> maxkelley aske your question in the chan
[11:51] <kittyfjun> ty
[11:51] <polf> ur not. oh ok :)
[11:52] <nifelseki> can anyone help me setup my wireless usb adapter (atheros) (dwl-g132)..?
[11:52] <N6REJ> ompaul, can you tell me wether or not the framebuffer should be turned on?
[11:52] <bor> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/458910
[11:52] <oblib> czr, it's a server install. I don't even have xserver installed apparently.
[11:52] <Millenniumgroup> Seveas, did you get my pm??
[11:52] <gnomefreak> ty bor
[11:52] <oblib> xserver-org I should say
[11:52] <mwe> Swedish_Chef: it doesn't matter to me that the base system is not 100% up to date, and if I need something like a new firefox I just install it myself
[11:52] <Seveas> Millenniumgroup, no
[11:52] <czr> oblib, then that is your problem too ;-)
[11:52] <N6REJ> evening Seveas
[11:53] <ompaul> N6REJ, if your using a specific cards driver then it would choose the config so taking framebuffer would not be on - it used to work why keep breaking it
[11:53] <Millenniumgroup> Seveas then I can't pm a staff
[11:53] <oblib> czr, but startx runs the WM just fine
[11:53] <Seveas> Millenniumgroup, try again, the unregistered filter somehow was on for me
[11:53] <Swedish_Chef> mwe: *shrug* i find it an inconvenience to install things myself, though i am running firefox 1.5 that way
[11:53] <Millenniumgroup> k
[11:53] <Seveas> Millenniumgroup, I am not freenode staff..
[11:53] <mwe> Swedish_Chef: I don't care if ftp or bash i the absolute latest version
[11:53] <polf> what window managers do you recommend? except the desktop enviroments GNOME and KDE.
[11:53] <Millenniumgroup> Seveas, no but your the op in this channel
[11:53] <czr> oblib, yes, because it's a wrapper script to start an X session and X protocol runs over ssh and the clients connect to your real X server
[11:53] <czr> oblib, or do you see something on the target host display?
[11:53] <B7su4> Seveas, okay then what?
[11:53] <N6REJ> ompaul, I don't know what I even did.  I rebooted this moring back into *nix from xp and *POOF* NO X,
[11:53] <Swedish_Chef> mwe: neither do i, but i care about packages like firefox, openoffice, postgresql and mysql, etc.
[11:53] <Alvi1> I'm having su and sudo problems, sudo <command> returns "sudo: pam_authenticate: Module is unknown" and su returns "su: Module is unknown" -- anyone know what's wrong?
[11:53] <kemik> !postfix
[11:53] <Ubugtu> I don't know.
[11:53] <kemik> damn
[11:54] <Seveas> B7su4, then done :)
[11:54] <action09> polf  afaik gnome use metacity (wm) an gnome/kde are desktops manager
[11:54] <czr> oblib, you have a display connected to the target host?
[11:54] <kemik> Seveas:  you know much about Postfix?
[11:54] <mwe> Swedish_Chef: yeah.
[11:54] <gnomefreak> bor,  and they work no errors?
[11:54] <oblib> czr, only on the host computer, not on the client where I ssh'd from
[11:54] <maxkelley> #firefox is absolutely useless
[11:54] <czr> oblib, interesting
[11:54] <Seveas> kemik, only as much as necceesary to use it for outgoing mail
[11:54] <N6REJ> ompaul, at least its the workstation that is foobar'd not the server :D  I don't add ANYTHING to the server without ton's of research
[11:54] <czr> oblib, and you see a WM there?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> a generic ubotu?
[11:54] <maxkelley> action09: it's useless.
[11:54] <Swedish_Chef> well, i gotta run. thanks for the help
[11:54] <bor> gnomefreak: yes, they work w/o errors
[11:54] <oblib> czr, I'm just using ssh as a terminal because Ihave no keyboard for it
[11:54] <kemik> Seveas:  that's what i'd need (and incoming too, but outgoing is fine for the moment)
[11:54] <action09> maxkelley what ? asking in the chan ?
[11:55] <nifelseki> can anyone help me setup my wireless usb adapter (atheros)(dwl-g132)..?
[11:55] <oblib> czr, so the SSH session is just like a tty session on the host
[11:55] <czr> oblib, that is probably not a good idea at all though
[11:55] <maxkelley> action09: #firefox is useless
[11:55] <MrBlowtatoes> ok, music config still won't work, how di i start jack?
[11:55] <kemik> Seveas:  i want to be ablo to sendmail from my server with adresses like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:55] <gnomefreak> i had same ones and all they did was give me a stat error all of them :(
[11:55] <Seveas> kemik, edit /etc/mailname, set it to your FQDN (ie: the hostname your provider gives you)
[11:55] <MrBlowtatoes> muse*
[11:55] <Seveas> done.
[11:55] <masteryuri> sorry, i have terminated first part of installation of ubuntu on a notebook, and it says:  please stand by while rebooting the sistem
[11:55] <action09> maxkelley ho ok
[11:55] <czr> oblib, X server will have problems initing input devices and won't be able to use your ssh as a keyboard and mouse device
[11:55] <masteryuri> what do i have to do?
[11:56] <oblib> czr, no keyboard or mouse - it's a mythtv box. Just a remote control
[11:56] <varsendagger> hey how do i make a text file executible " ie chmod"
[11:56] <alanleclech> alexis soft ???
[11:56] <kemik> Seveas:  my ISP gives me one weird addy, but i've regged an adress to be pointed @ this ip, still the same thing ?
[11:56] <njan> varsendagger, chmod a+x executable
[11:56] <shogun_> hi
[11:56] <Alex> alanleclech: What are you bantering on about?
[11:56] <czr> oblib, never used mythtv
[11:56] <shogun_> I'm a noob to linux
[11:56] <Seveas> kemik, yeah, any FQDN pointing to you will do
[11:56] <czr> does anyone use amarok with breezy?
[11:56] <shogun_> and I screwed ip
[11:56] <polf> will I have to resize my NTFS partition, (and make a new one for ubuntu) in partition magic, or is this possible via the ubuntusetup.
[11:56] <Nathan1987> can anyone help me with samba?
[11:56] <kemik> Seveas:  great
[11:56] <njan> varsendagger, or u+x for just executable to the user or g+x for just the group.
[11:56] <kemik> thx
[11:56] <gnomefreak> maxkelley, did you let it reboot?
[11:56] <MrBlowtatoes> how do i configure JACK audioserver to use Arts isntead of ALSA?
[11:56] <shogun_> ok so I screwed up when I installed linux
[11:56] <alanleclech> i am not angliche
[11:56] <Seveas> polf, ubuntu installer can do it
[11:56] <czr> polf, partition magic is a better idea + backups
[11:56] <shogun_> my windows doesn't work anymore
[11:56] <varsendagger> great
[11:57] <shogun_> I'm using ubuntu right now
[11:57] <davidwinter_> hi all - has anyone had any luck installing VHCS on 5.10 using the shell script found here: http://vhcs.net/new/modules/phpwiki/index.php/Installation%20Ubuntu%20%28en%29
[11:57] <maxkelley> gnomefreak: reboot what?
[11:57] <polf> k thx
[11:57] <Seveas> alanleclech, #ubuntu-fr might be more useful for you
[11:57] <varsendagger> njan, thankyou\
[11:57] <njan> varsendagger, or you could do it by octal mode :)
[11:57] <njan> varsendagger, yw
[11:57] <gnomefreak> oops
[11:57] <gnomefreak> sorry maxkelley
[11:57] <alanleclech> du you spick in frenche
[11:57] <shogun_> no
[11:57] <shogun_> negative
[11:57] <varsendagger> njan, like 755?
[11:57] <Alex> alanleclech: un petit.. ca va?
[11:57] <njan> varsendagger, 'man chmod' will give you all the other permutations of the command.
[11:57] <Chousuke> !fr
[11:57] <Ubugtu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:57] <njan> varsendagger, 755 would work
[11:57] <Chousuke> :P
[11:57] <alanleclech> qui es tu ?? alex
[11:57] <erUSUL> MrBlowtatoes, why would you want to do that, is comlplete nosense?
[11:57] <erUSUL> !enter
[11:57] <jeenyusnoboarder> hey how can i get support for my avi files, and my mp3 and mpeg and all that?
[11:58] <Ubugtu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks
[11:58] <MrBlowtatoes> becasue i'm useing KDE not gnome
[11:58] <njan> varsendagger, 755 gives full control & execute permission to the user and then read/execute to group and world.
[11:58] <jeenyusnoboarder> i isntalled the addon cd but it still didnt work
[11:58] <gnomefreak> Masteryuri: did you let it reboot?
[11:58] <MrBlowtatoes> kde doesn't have alsa
[11:58] <shogun_> alright so, do I have to reformat again and use partition magic this time instead of just doing the regular booting?
[11:58] <Xgates> hey just thought I'd let you guys know if anyone is looking for a nice box have one for sale almost new, PM me if interested, thanks
[11:58] <shogun_> my windows is fuxed
[11:58] <MrBlowtatoes> and i need midi support
[11:58] <alanleclech> qui est tu ??
[11:58] <Nathan1987> anyone had problems recognising windows machines over samba?
[11:58] <mumbles2> dose this work ?
[11:58] <czr> shogun_, how is windows 'fuxed'?
[11:58] <jeenyusnoboarder> i can offer windows support in exchange for ubuntu support :D
[11:58] <Quaid_> does anyone happen to know what version of gnome is packaged in 5.10?
[11:58] <alanleclech> wate is it ?
[11:58] <Dido-> How do I add /dev/hdb5 (which is fat32) to fstab so I can have full access with my default user? Please..
[11:58] <jeenyusnoboarder> i have my a+ but im lin noob
[11:58] <czr> shogun_, if NTFS is broken then you shouldn't use any resizing tool
[11:58] <oblib> or anyone know how to fix nvidia problems with suspend2?
[11:59] <Seveas> alanleclech, type /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:59] <Nathan1987> i know shitall about linnux i got it ydesterday
[11:59] <alanleclech> wate is it alex
[11:59] <ompaul> varsendagger, assuming the contents of the file are commands sh filename or chmod NNN filename where the N = 764 gets you -rwxrw-r-- and a 5 gets you r-x your call
[11:59] <Seveas> par la vous puvez parler en francais
[11:59] <shogun_> I think I accidently installed ubuntu on the same partition as windows, when I go into boot menu to choose OS, there is only ubuntu
[11:59] <shogun_> I made a partition for just ubuntu, but it wouldn't allow me to install it with the EXT 3 file system
[11:59] <czr> Dido-, where do you want it to be mounted?
[11:59] <Goldfish> shogun_: Possibly the master boot record has ubuntu's loader on it. Doesn't mean the window boot partition is toast necessarily.
[11:59] <alanleclech> windobe
[11:59] <Alvi1> I'm having su and sudo problems, sudo <command> returns "sudo: pam_authenticate: Module is unknown" and su returns "su: Module is unknown" -- anyone know what's wrong?
[11:59] <shogun_> so, how would I add windows to the boot record?
[12:00] <ompaul> shogun_, bring up a terminal and type >>fdisk -l <<in  it then paste the output in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:00] <shogun_> sorry I am a linux noob


[01:32] <wxl> maybe this is a dumb question, but if i don't run ubuntu normally, could i use a cloud vm to do development?
[14:59] <biggiesmalls> happy haps .. wut up
[15:17] <kunal> Hi dear developers. please help me... please tell me how to connect huawei e303f modem on my ubuntu14.04lts 64-bit..... please help me.... its not working...
[15:26] <kunal_> Hi dear developers. please help me... please tell me how to connect huawei e303f modem on my ubuntu14.04lts 64-bit..... please help me.... its not working...
[15:30] <kunal> Hi dear developers. please help me... please tell me how to connect huawei e303f modem on my ubuntu14.04lts 64-bit..... please help me.... its not working...
[15:33] <kunal> hi developers .... please help
[15:38] <kunal> hi developers please tell me how to connect this huawei e303f modem to ubuntu 14.04lts...
[15:42] <kunal> Hi dear developers. please help me... please tell me how to connect huawei e303f modem on my ubuntu14.04lts 64-bit..... please help me.... its not working...
[15:45] <Elleo> kunal: you're more likely to have luck asking on askubuntu.com, this channel is primarily filled with app developers, so there's not likely to be anyone around who knows about that specific hardware
[15:50] <rpadovani> #ubuntu-irc?
[15:50] <rpadovani> wrong window, sorry


 @valorie, Hi Valorie. What configuration do you use in Settings - Compositor? What settings do you use in  the nvidia settings app? Thanks.
[03:19] <valorie> openGL and just standard
[03:19] <valorie> I made nothing special since adjusting to this laptops hidpi
[03:20] <valorie> haven't messed with it for a year beyond doing recommended upgrades
 @valorie, OpenGL 3.1 or 2?
[03:22] <valorie> 2.0
[03:22] <valorie> this is in cosmic
[03:22] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-Oryx-Pro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.14.2 on Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) powered by Linux 4.18.0-10-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 1999-2000/3800 MHz, RAM: 25832/32118 MB, Storage: 373/1144 GB, 225 procs, 215.14h up
 ok! I was using 3.1. I may give 2.0 a try then!
 How is plasma 5.14 working for you? 🙂
[03:24] <valorie> perfect
[03:25] <valorie> haven't seen a graphics glitch since upgrading
 ooh! Oryx Pro also! Nice! Is it the newer slim factor one?
[03:25] <valorie> no, it's .... 2 or 3 years old
[03:26] <valorie> I love it
[03:26] <valorie> but it doesn't go with me when I travle
[03:26] <valorie> travel
[03:26] <valorie> bit of a beast
 Groovy! Maybe I should upgrade to 5.14 also. Would Kwin have any improvements in 5.14??
[03:27] <valorie> maybe?
[03:27] <valorie> I didn't pay attention
 Beauty AND beast! 😄
[03:27] <valorie> used to freeze occasionally and now doesn't
[03:27] <valorie> so all good for me
[03:28] <valorie> seems lighter, too
[03:28] <valorie> fan doesn't come on as often
 Great! Good to know! I was wondering if 5.14 would be a good choice for now or whether to wait for it to be default.
[03:30] <valorie> I'm not gonna ppa-purge it, for sure!
 "Allow applications to block compositing" - is this better ticked on or off?
[03:32] <valorie> hmmm, dunno
 ok
[03:32] <valorie> I think if you play games you want that
[03:32] <valorie> I didn't mess with it one way or another
 Ok. I have it ticked off at present. I cannot recall what the default state was - on or off. I am not a gamer but do graphic work.
 Arg! I just tried so many combinations in the settings but nvidia will not work properly! Worst of all Krita will not even open! 😞 Back on Intel power saving mode now.
[04:26] <valorie> damn it
[04:26] <valorie> maybe ask in the #krita chan?
 I was having some trouble with nouveau also (stuttering scrolling) and from what I am led to believe only the nvidia driver gives me access to the dedicated graphics. Diogenes gave me a script that fixed glitches and tearing so I am using Intel without issue - but I want the power of the Nvidia to do graphic work if possible.
[12:11] <tichun> What to do when I cannot install boot splash I downloaded?
[12:14] <tichun> Also, why cannot I install e.g. 'lindows' title bars? I got those on other installs and that is not the only package I have problems with, once I couldn't install 'United' theme pack
[12:42] <BluesKaj> Hiya folks
[15:22] <Quantos> Hi, I'm having difficulties replacing winblows with KUbuntu 18.04
[15:23] <Quantos> I've never had a problem installing Linux before
[15:26] <Quantos> I think the problem has something to do with UEFI, but I'm not 100% sure
 Newbie question here...Which is the best tool to create a kubuntu usb on windows?
[15:35] <Quantos> I used ISO to USB
[15:35] <Quantos> Small and efficient
[15:36] <Quantos> Okay, found my problem, its my mouse
[15:36] <Quantos> Installation is working now
 Apparently kubuntu manual suggest's Etcher and unetbootin.....the forums mostly suggest rufus and unetbootin....while i was thinking of Universal usb installer😂
 I feel so dumb now😅
[16:06] <Quantos> Hey, is there a reason that my madcatz mouse doesn't work with KUbuntu 18.04?
[16:06] <Quantos> Is there a driver somewhere for it?
 @Quantos, if there is then open driver manager, wait for a while and you should get an option to install additional drivers. (tcan take some time)
[16:15] <Quantos> That's hardly useful since as soon as the device is connected KDE has a seizure
[16:19]  * Quantos goes back to the drawing board
[16:20]  * Quantos wishes he could draw....
 is that a fresh installation?, if yes then you could try reinstalling it but this time select "install proprieatary drivers" and keep your madcatz mouse connected
 that might work
[16:32] <Quantos> Naw, can't even install with the mouse in question connected
[16:33] <Quantos> Even with a second mouse connected it disables the buttons on both
 try installation only with keyboard
 press tab to move between sections
[16:34] <Quantos> Yeah, I did that first
[16:34] <Quantos> No joy
[16:34] <Quantos> I just found something that 'might' be a solution
[16:34] <Quantos> It's six years old though and I'
[16:35] <Quantos> m a little hesitant to try it
[16:35] <Quantos> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1528982&page=3
[16:35] <Quantos> Does it look safe to try?
 yeah the poster is good
 try it, nothing to lose
[16:38] <Quantos> Okay
[16:38] <Quantos> Thanks for looking
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/j7SfIoa1/file_10598.mp4
[20:25] <Quantos> Trying to get a madcatz cyborg 7 mouse to work on KUbuntu 18.04
[20:25] <Quantos> Tried https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1528982&page=3
[20:26] <Quantos> Is that file supposed to be empty?
[20:35] <valorie> Quantos: we haven't used KDM for .... so many years
[20:35] <valorie> SDDM
[20:36] <valorie> and never do
[20:36] <valorie> never do
[20:36] <valorie> never
[20:36] <valorie> sudo kate
[20:36] <valorie> never, ever
[20:37] <valorie> just edit the file and put in your sudo passw when prompted as you save it
[20:46] <Quantos> Yeah, Okies, couldn't sudo kate anyway
[20:46] <Quantos> It gave me an error and a kick in the behind
[20:47] <Quantos> I've never seen that boot on my pc before
[20:47] <Quantos> :P
[20:47] <Quantos> Think it was steel toed
[21:18] <emma_> hey valorie is ardesia not in the kubuntu repo?
[21:21] <valorie> !info ardesia
[21:22] <valorie> evidently not, emma
[21:22] <valorie> what is it?
[21:41] <Mrokii> Where in kubuntu can I install or make sure that a proper nvidia-driver is used?
[21:43] <emma> valorie: it is supposed to be software that lets you anontate your screen no matter what app you are in.  like microsoft ink
[21:43] <emma> like no matter what app you are using you could draw on the screen if you get me
[21:43] <emma> anything like that in kubuntu?
[22:40] <emma> valorie: is kubuntu using X or wayland>
[22:55] <valorie> emma: you can choose wayland if you have the wayland-session thing installed
[22:55] <valorie> we don't provide it by default as it isn't really ready for the average user
[22:56] <valorie> https://askubuntu.com/questions/909565/how-to-get-a-wayland-session-in-kubuntu
[22:56] <valorie> it basically requires only one package: plasma-workspace-wayland
[23:00] <emma> valorie: that's fine, that's good to know. I was hoping it is still X because that's what the software im finding uses.
[23:00] <valorie> :-)
[23:00] <emma> valorie: im looking for some software that will let you annotate/free draw on the screen in whatever app you are in.
[23:00] <valorie> don't worry, X won't be switched off for a long, long time
[23:00] <valorie> hmmm, don't know about anything like that
[23:01] <valorie> so you'll have a choice for a long time as well
[23:01] <valorie> the plasma devels are working very hard on wayland and have a policy that no patch is accepted if it doesn't work in wayland
[23:02] <emma> hm i see.
[23:03] <emma> Well if Wayland confirs no benefits then why switch
[23:04] <valorie> it does confer many benefits
[23:04] <valorie> hardly anyone is switching yet, but everyone is preparing for the future
[23:05] <emma> I see
[23:05] <valorie> it works much better with hidpi graphics for one
[23:05] <valorie> and everyone is moving to that
[23:05] <emma> !info gromit-mpx
[23:05] <emma> oh no it is gtk+ based
[23:08] <emma> wait it says it is in the kde store: https://store.kde.org/p/1129261/
[23:08] <emma> does it seem odd that a gtk3 port is in the kde store?
[23:12] <valorie> emma: kde store is the old KDE Look which also had Gnome Look and maybe others
[23:13] <valorie> so all workable packages that the maintainers want there are there
[23:13] <valorie> just as in ubuntu you can use anything in the archive
[23:13] <valorie> !info gromit-mpx
[23:14] <valorie> it will bring in some gtk libraries, but if it works, who cares?
[23:16] <emma> Yeah doesn't work anyway I guess
[23:20] <emma> valorie: i guess compiz might have a screen-marker/annotate plugin but I don't think Kubuntu uses compiz does it?
[23:20] <valorie> you can use compiz rather than kwin if you like
[23:20] <valorie> I never have but I know some people who have
[23:21] <valorie> you can use kwin in plain ubuntu as well, or in gnome/another distro
[23:23] <emma> valorie: i know you keep saying you *can* do these things but *should* you? Arent you creating some sort of abomination by mixing and matching and diverging from the pure intentions of the original developers?
[23:23] <valorie> lol
[23:24] <valorie> I say: keep good backups and use what you like in the way that works for you
[23:25] <valorie> you can always reinstall quickly and easily


[11:25] <mup> Issue operator#703 opened: `harness.get_relation_data()` returns `{}` although charm under test has set relation data <Created by AurelienLourot> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/703>
[19:36] <mup> PR operator#704 opened: add tox config for real pebble tests <Created by rwcarlsen> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/704>


[06:21] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[06:21] <knightwise> morning brobostigon
[06:23] <brobostigon> morning knightwise
[06:24] <knightwise> how are you doing today man
[06:25] <knightwise> p
[06:25] <brobostigon> boiled, signs of getting older, and you?
[06:26] <knightwise> ha :) same thing
[06:26] <knightwise> although, i've been doing this mindfullness thing and started to notice it kinda works so .. just the boiled part
[06:27] <brobostigon> :)
[06:28] <knightwise> Have a new outsouring project i"m working on as a contractor, get to be on my own machine all day long.
[06:28] <knightwise> thats nice , now i at least have a full set of unix tools at my disposal ,been learning a lot bout tmux and stuff
[06:31] <brobostigon> :)
[06:33] <brobostigon> been using emacs recently, is ideal really, has the programming stuff builtin, postgresql client, spreadsheet.
[06:44] <knightwise> Thats something I still have to learn
[06:45] <knightwise> sounds very interesting
[06:46] <brobostigon> it is, yes.
[06:48] <knightwise> Hm :( Downside to working on a pi is that RTV (reddit client) can be damn unstable :(
[06:49] <brobostigon> :(
[06:50] <knightwise> gotta figure out why that is, has something to do with the way the Pi handles locale settings
[06:51] <brobostigon> i see.
[06:52] <knightwise> for the rest its behaving quite nicely
[06:52] <brobostigon> cool.
[06:53] <knightwise> i do have to remind myself i'm not working on an I5 with 16 gigs of ram and an SSD anymore.
[06:54] <brobostigon> :)
[07:02] <knightwise> although I was thinking if an old netbook with an SSD would not be a better idea, since I would still be working on the i386 architecture of ubuntu
[07:03] <knightwise> it wouln't be fast but neither is the pi
[08:33] <zmoylan-pi> well reddit has rss feeds so you could put them in a rss reader...
[08:34] <knightwise> yeah , but not quite the same
[08:34] <knightwise> i think that it has mostly to do with the implementation of rtv in raspbian,;
[08:34] <knightwise> i think if i stick to ubuntu mate i'll get it working
[08:34]  * zmoylan-pi wonders what reddit would be like in lynx.... ::opens a new terminal tab::
[08:37] <zmoylan-pi> ok... not that way... :-)
[08:39] <knightwise> have you tried brow.sh ?
[08:39] <zmoylan-pi> nope
[09:14] <knightwise> looks promising