[18:04] <kevindf_> how can i startup this bash file i created in /etc/openvpn/bridge-start/
[18:04] <brx> thanks derFlo
[18:05] <brx> thanks OerHeks
[18:05] <OerHeks> larry614, format for what?
[18:05] <agent_white> larry614: What are you using to format the usb drive?
[18:05] <larry614> flash drive. im putting my videos on it
[18:06] <dreamminder> a little of topic: How often when you give an advice or help someone do you rely on your own knowledge and how often you just google it for that person?
[18:06] <OerHeks> larry614, depends on what machines you want to use it. fat32 would be universal but has a 4 gb filelimit
[18:06] <kevindf_> How to excecute a bash file in ubuntu? Does anyone know
[18:06] <dreamminder> sure
[18:06] <kevindf_> i created a bash file in /etc/openvpn/bridge-start but want to excecute it now
[18:06] <dreamminder> kevindf_, set chmod +x thefile
[18:06] <dreamminder> and then ./thefile
[18:06] <larry614> 15R (N5110)  dell
[18:07] <kevindf_> ok i'll try that out
[18:07] <agent_white> larry614: Are you wanting to use that usb drive on windows as well as linux computers?
[18:07] <larry614> yes
[18:07] <dreamminder> chmod +x sets execute bit so that the file can be executed by user and ./ is a generic "command" for executing anything
[18:07] <backman> dreamminder: googling to confirm my knowledge :-D
[18:07] <Guest26186> can someone help me
[18:08] <dreamminder> I realized that nowadays the ability to find information is just as valuable as any kind of knowledge
[18:08] <OerHeks> never ask and then change your name, guest26186
[18:08] <agent_white> larry614: Do you know the path to your usb device?
[18:08] <kevindf_> dreamminder, i've set the permission set chmod +x bridge-start when in the directory then i type ./bridge start but it says bash: ./bridge-start: Permission denied now
[18:08] <dreamminder> try with sudo?
[18:08] <larry614> physically yes otherwise no
[18:09] <kevindf_> tried says command not found then
[18:09] <agent_white> larry614: Basically, don't plug it in. Run `lsblk` and `df`. Look at the output. then plug it in, and run both again.
[18:09] <agent_white> you'll see which is yours, usually it's /dev/sdc
[18:09] <dreamminder> kevindf_, do ls -l on that directory. If the file you set chmod +x is not marked green then it doesn't have the chmod+x
[18:10] <larry614> what will that do? do you want me to past the output?
[18:10] <kevindf_> dreamminder,  "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   745 Oct 20 19:58 bridge-start"
[18:10] <dreamminder> so it means that it doesn't have the proper chmod set
[18:10] <agent_white> larry614: Check it out yourself, they WILL be different by a single entry. That single entry will be your usb device.
[18:10] <kevindf_> i'll try excute again
[18:10] <dreamminder> it has read write for user, read for group and read for others
[18:10] <dreamminder> try chmod +x with sudo
[18:10] <kevindf_> ok thanks
[18:11] <dreamminder> it's very important to have at least a basic knowledge about permissions in linux
[18:11] <agent_white> larry614: OR... `sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog` and then plug it in, you'll see some lines pop up.
[18:11] <larry614> sdb1?
[18:11] <richac> dreamminder: do you use selinux?
[18:11] <kevindf_> i will try to do sosme more research on that
[18:12] <agent_white> larry614: Mmm what all you you have in the left-hand column when running `lsblk` ?
[18:12] <dreamminder> richac, nope\
[18:12] <dreamminder> kevindf_, can you execute it now?
[18:13] <agent_white> Also, if you think it's sdb1... using `lsblk`, check out the column for "size" and see if it's the size of your usb device.
[18:13] <larry614> http://pastie.org/9663453
[18:13] <kevindf_> dreamminder, still not green, even typed sudo su then went to the directory and tried again
[18:13] <mariusz_k> can anyone help with gpt partition
[18:13] <kevindf_> dreamminder, when i type "sudo set chmod +x bridge-start" it says sudo: set: command not found
[18:14] <dreamminder> because there is no such command as set
[18:14] <agent_white> larry614: If you're on a time-constraint, check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/22381/how-to-format-a-usb-flash-drive   -- Though using the terminal is a better learning experience :)
[18:14] <dreamminder> you are supposed to execute sudo chmod+x bridge-start
[18:14] <mariusz_k> got problem with installation of ubuntu
[18:14] <kevindf_> ok, let me try that
[18:14] <dreamminder> mariusz_k, what's the problem?
[18:14] <agent_white> larry614: You are correct, sdb is the device :)
[18:15] <kevindf_> dreamminder, it is turned green now both start & stop thank you ;)
[18:15] <larry614> ok how does that help me with my formatting question?
[18:15] <kevindf_>  Mon Oct 20 20:15:18 2014 TUN/TAP device tap0 opened Mon Oct 20 20:15:18 2014 Persist state set to: ON
[18:15] <kevindf_> :)
[18:15] <dreamminder> kevindf_, very good :)
[18:15] <agent_white> larry614: Now, to format it to a fat32 filesystem, we do `sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1`
[18:15] <kevindf_> thanks
[18:15] <agent_white> larry614: It's another way to do it :P
[18:16] <dreamminder> before you start doing anything in bash get at least a basic understanding of how everything works in linux, otherwise you can do some serious harm to it, especially if you execute your scripts with sudo
[18:16] <agent_white> then make a directory somewhere (in your home folder), and `sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /home/larry/UsbDirectory`
[18:16] <kevindf_> dreamminder, yes i been working for about 1-2 months with linux for first time on desktop and server envoirment so still alot to learn :)
[18:17] <dreamminder> do you like linux, kevindf_
[18:17] <kevindf_> dreamminder, i like it alot
[18:17] <nixfreak> Question: What is the quickest way to install ia32-libs* in Ubuntu 12.04 and then copy it to another Ubuntu 12.04 installation (All of this using the install of Ubuntu 12.04 alternate x86_64)
[18:17] <kevindf_> dreamminder, really enjoying working with it so far especially the server version
[18:17] <zzara4> Hi, I am unsure as to whether the printer driver must be installed with the printer connected or not. First printer connection then driver or first driver then printer connection?
[18:18] <backman> Guest57894: with?
[18:18] <Laurenceb> hi
[18:18] <Laurenceb> i have a problem, firefox kills my pc
[18:18] <dreamminder> Laurenceb, how does it kill it xD
[18:18] <Laurenceb> instant reboot if i load a large jpeg
[18:18] <Guest57894> backman: sorry?
[18:18] <dreamminder> do you have sufficient memory, Laurenceb ?
[18:18] <Laurenceb> if the size is over ~4k pixels
[18:18] <Laurenceb> 4GB
[18:19] <Laurenceb> its memory related, but how come it kills the machine
[18:19] <Laurenceb> that should be impossible surely?
[18:19] <agent_white> What do you mean 'kills'?
[18:19] <Laurenceb> instant reboot
[18:19] <dreamminder> Laurenceb,  do you have swap enabled?
[18:19] <Laurenceb> screen turns off and everything goes dead
[18:19] <Laurenceb> yes
[18:20] <Laurenceb> i hope...
[18:20] <dreamminder> check it
[18:20] <Laurenceb> it may have broken
[18:20] <Laurenceb> yeah
[18:20] <dreamminder> basically turn task manager on
[18:20] <dreamminder> and see if it has swap
[18:20] <zzara4> The printer is a CANON PIXMA
[18:20] <Laurenceb> it does now
[18:21] <agent_white> Laurenceb: You may also want to peek through /var/log/kern.log
[18:21] <Laurenceb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/622849
[18:21] <agent_white> And possibly /var/log/boot.log
[18:22] <ilk> why is FF so slow and glitchy lately?
[18:22] <zzara4> I couldn't get it to work before. Now I am giving it another shot. Want to make sure I am doing everything correctly.
[18:22] <agent_white> Laurenceb: Good find, though 'hanging' and rebooting are very different.
[18:22] <Laurenceb> i know
[18:22] <Laurenceb> not the same as i see
[18:22] <ilk> iceweasel is even worse!
[18:22] <Laurenceb> kernel: [23844181.403083] [drm:i915_gem_do_execbuffer] *ERROR* 1292 objects [6 pinned], 388128768 object bytes [106278912 pinned], 106278912/234881024 gtt bytes
[18:23] <Laurenceb> ^related?
[18:23] <lionrouge> hi !
[18:23] <zzara4> It does not install automatically. (driver must be downloaded and installed, also for scanner)
[18:23] <ilk> re: firefox and iceweasel ----->  http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/b3/b3d24fb241ec203b8c27ae3d4d3fd60e16a6b4f94af1816bdd4e44a8954a4ec9.jpg
[18:23] <lionrouge> after recent update my flashplayer stopped working
[18:23] <lionrouge> maybe i should go for lightspark?
[18:24] <zzara4> Also I am not sure whether to install first the printer driver and then the scanner driver or viceversa.
[18:24] <agent_white> Laurenceb: -ish?  You may want to grab both /var/log/messages, /var/log/kern.log, /var/log/boot.log and poke through to see what happened right before the shutdown.
[18:24] <ilk> almost all browsers are glitching lately....its gotten so bad i use lynx
[18:24] <ilk> using lynx on mobile sites
[18:25] <lionrouge> ilk, lynx is cool !
[18:26] <Laurenceb> hmm
[18:26] <Laurenceb> it may have been a x sever restart
[18:26] <agent_white> Laurenceb: `/var/log/messages | grep firefox`
[18:26] <agent_white> ^^ :D
[18:26] <EriC^^> i don't think that command does anything
[18:27] <Laurenceb> sudo cat
[18:27] <EriC^^> nevermind
[18:27] <agent_white> ;)
[18:27] <EriC^^> there's no messages anyways
[18:27] <agent_white> No need to cat to grep. Just grep it!
[18:27] <EriC^^> haha, yeah
[18:27] <EriC^^> grep firefox /var/log/syslog
[18:27] <Laurenceb> nothing there
[18:27] <Laurenceb> hmm
[18:28] <Laurenceb> Oct 20 18:30:03 laurence-desktop AptDaemon: INFO: Shutdown was requested
[18:28] <Laurenceb> WUT
[18:29] <Laurenceb> hmm that might not be the first thing that happened
[18:29] <agent_white> Only privileged programs can request a shutdown
[18:29] <Laurenceb> Oct 20 18:23:08 laurence-desktop kernel: [23843873.220824] [drm:i915_gem_do_execbuffer] *ERROR* Failed to pin buffer 2 of 3, total 168230912 bytes: -28
[18:29] <Laurenceb> ^first issue
[18:30] <agent_white> Laurenceb: Pastebin your output, if you don't mind. Closest ones to the shutdown.
[18:30] <jjavaholic> when is gimp 2.10 likely to be included in the ubuntu repositories?
[18:30] <agent_white> `last -x | less` and `last reboot | less`
[18:30] <larry655> usb 3.0 transfer speed is only 4.7 mb/sec is that normal?
[18:31] <Laurenceb> just a sec theres confidential stuff in there :P
[18:32] <agent_white> No worries at all! Don't pastebin it if it's a hassle.
[18:32] <agent_white> Just keep sifting :D
[18:32] <moein> sometimes my ubuntu 14.04 starts, its fonts size(menu fonts) become small!
[18:32] <moein> what is the problem?
[18:32] <Laurenceb> http://pastie.org/9663482
[18:32] <Laurenceb> error is line 2
[18:33] <Nokiabot> ~Ping
[18:33] <Laurenceb> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31520
[18:34] <Laurenceb> lol i need to stop running old stuff
[18:34] <agent_white> ;P
[18:35] <larry655> usb 3.0 transfer speed is only 4.7 mb/sec is that normal?
[18:35] <dreamminder> depends on the device
[18:35] <agent_white> Laurenceb: Did you see that `lspci -vvnn` ? Check the output.
[18:35] <dreamminder> I guess you are talking about pendrive?
[18:35] <OerHeks> depends on how many small files too
[18:35] <agent_white> But... maybe just update and see what happens ;D
[18:36] <dreamminder> larry655, if you have a pendrive and it has slow memory then even if it was USB4 (non existant yet xD) then the speed would be the same
[18:36] <larry655> k
[18:36] <Gaming> long time ago when using irc, what was the command to change my name?
[18:37] <dreamminder> why do you think there's such a great difference in prices between pendrives that have the same ammount of memory
[18:37] <Laurenceb> 00:02.1 Display controller [0380]: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2e13] (rev 03)
[18:37] <dreamminder> Gaming,  type /nick
[18:37] <Laurenceb> probably sufferes from same bug
[18:38] <testxxx> thank you :)
[18:41] <rgb-one> hello
[18:42] <ProjectHardcore> Hi
[18:42] <rgb-one> How are you?
[18:42] <ProjectHardcore> I'm fine, how about you?
[18:42] <rgb-one> same :)
[18:42] <ProjectHardcore> how was your day :P?
[18:43] <rgb-one> Its been ok
[18:43] <rgb-one> working on an assignment
[18:43] <ProjectHardcore> aha cool
[18:43] <ProjectHardcore> I've been working at my work, lame
[18:45] <rgb-one> I have a presentation on /etc files
[18:45] <rgb-one> comming up wednesday
[18:46] <h00> I am trying to setup networking on a system with 2 nics. one dhcp, one static. I want the def gw to use an address on the static network. does anyone have any documentation on how this can be configured? Ideally I don't want to do this via the gui
[18:49] <Nokiabot> Hola crap name ubuntu 15.04
[18:50] <ProjectHardcore> Haven't been using ubuntu for a while lol, version 15.04 already?
[18:50] <pavlos> h00, http://www.sudo-juice.com/how-to-set-a-static-ip-in-ubuntu-the-proper-way/
[18:51] <h00> pavlos, thanks for the link. I will take a look in a few
[18:52] <ProjectHardcore> guys, simple question; if im using python terminal and filling memories, do they persist in memory after closing the python terminal? I don't think so, right?
[18:52] <agent_white> ProjectHardcore: Nope! Python has a garbage collector.
[18:52] <Nokiabot> Projecthardcore:lol thats due in 2015 i was taking of the name as i can barely spell it :p
[18:53] <ProjectHardcore> haha, ok thanks :D
[18:54]  * OerHeks is making artwork with blue balls for 15.04
[18:56] <jimmy51v_> how can i completely remove a package and all associated configuration files?  ex: package name is BigMessyApp.  apt-get remove --purge BigMessyApp   or something like that?
[18:58] <ProjectHardcore> jimmy51v_ Hi, i tought it was like sudo apt-get --purge programname, followed with sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:59] <jimmy51v_> that sounds familiar
[18:59] <ProjectHardcore> jimmy51v_ what you are doing with that latest command is removing the unneeded packages after you removed the program that used those, so i guess that's what you was looking for :)
[19:00] <jimmy51v_> yeah.
[19:00] <jimmy51v_> i've got a script that installs a lot of tools (and whatever dependencies are needed for them).  I want it such that if they re-run it, it blows away all of the previous and starts over in case they've messed something up.
[19:03] <cryptosidd> i need help mounting my pfsense hdd into ubuntu, to edit 2 file
[19:03] <cryptosidd> im about to panic
[19:04] <bprompt> jimmy51v_:    should be ->    sudo apt-get purge PACKAGE; sudo apt-get autoremove;      and I think you'd need to issue a "yes"  with an ->  echo "y" to it by means of a pipe to it goes unattended
[19:05] <cryptosidd> http://pastebin.com/PEjF42uL
[19:05] <cryptosidd> i need help please.
[19:06] <h00> the gateway on my dhcp assigned nic is still trumping the gateway defined for my static nic
[19:07] <cryptosidd> anyone^
[19:07] <cryptosidd> i need help please
[19:07] <cryptosidd> why cant i mount my freebsd partition into ubuntu
[19:07] <cryptosidd> http://pastebin.com/PEjF42uL
[19:07] <mansour> hello
[19:08] <Jordan_U> cryptosidd: Please calm down and be patient. Repeating yourself won't get you help any faster.
[19:08] <pbx> cryptosidd, instead of pleading, give more context.  have you succeeded at this before? what context is not in the paste? can you summarize the issue without making people read the console session first?
[19:09] <cryptosidd> the issue is im unable to mount my freebsd hdd in ubuntu, i need to mount it so i can edit 2 file and fix my pfsense installation
[19:09] <cryptosidd> i never suceed no, never had this prob before
[19:10] <mansour> guys i have a question ,,, i've been trying to sniff traffic on my network i tried wireshark i wrote a python scapy code ,, it seems that i cant sniff any traffic other then my on -- i set my interface on promisc by ifconfig nothing seems to work ?????????? what do i doooooo???
[19:10] <cryptosidd> all i need is to write /boot/loader.conf and /boot/device.hints but im unable to mount the partition:(
[19:10] <bprompt> cryptosidd:    shouldn't you be mounting   sda1?  rather than sda?
[19:10] <Nuovo> w i korn
[19:10] <cryptosidd> its sda1, i tryed sda also
[19:10] <cryptosidd> since sda1 isnt working
[19:11] <mansour> helloooo any one !!
[19:11] <bprompt> well... sda would be the device itself...not a mountable partition
[19:11] <Jordan_U> cryptosidd: You are trying to mount /dev/sda, which is a reference to the entire drive. You need to be passing at least a partition number (if not a bsd subpartition). Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid". Also note that there are many different variants of UFS, and you should therefore always be careful when writing to a UFS volume created by one OS in another.
[19:11] <Terabyte> hey i'm trying to create an upstart script, but whenever i start it, and check its status it says it's stopped, the upstart script exec's a script that's installed locally, that script contains an exec for java, am i doing something wrong?: https://gist.github.com/danielburrell/bf87ee04fa6d1d8bee7f
[19:11] <mansour> try df -h any see witch device !
[19:12] <mansour> guys i have a question ,,, i've been trying to sniff traffic on my network i tried wireshark i wrote a python scapy code ,, it seems that i cant sniff any traffic other then my on -- i set my interface on promisc by ifconfig
[19:12] <Jordan_U> mansour: df only lists devices that are already mounted.
[19:12] <cryptosidd> jordan as i said i tryed with sda1 also
[19:13] <Terabyte> mansour wired or wireless?
[19:13] <mansour> sorry jordan i wasn't following from the beginin
[19:13] <cryptosidd> and blkid dont list sda and sda1
[19:15] <mansour> guys i have a question ,,, i've been trying to sniff traffic on my network i tried wireshark i wrote a python scapy code ,, it seems that i cant sniff any traffic other then my on -- i set my interface on promisc by ifconfig
[19:15] <mansour> anyone helpa
[19:16] <Jordan_U> cryptosidd: Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" anyway. Please also pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo grub-fstest /dev/sda ls -- -l".
[19:17] <Jordan_U> mansour: Try asking in #wireshark.
[19:18] <mansour> i dont think Jordan that the issue is with wireshark
[19:18] <mansour> coz when i sniff on a virtual mechine it works
[19:19] <Jordan_U> mansour: It may not be, but those in #wireshark may be familiar with these problems.
[19:19] <cryptosidd> Jordan_u: http://pastebin.com/zNZFj941
[19:19] <cryptosidd> im 100% sure the partition i need to mount is sda1
[19:19] <cryptosidd> im not able to mount it, this is my problem
[19:20] <cryptosidd> error say i dont use the right fs
[19:21] <Jordan_U> cryptosidd: No, sda1 is not the correct device. sda1 points to another BSD style partition label, which itself has two more partitions.
[19:21] <cryptosidd> ho^
[19:22] <cryptosidd> so what is the partition i need to mount^
[19:22] <jimmy51v_> bprompt:    sudo apt-get -y --force-yes purge PACKAGE; sudo apt-get -y --force-yes autoremove;
[19:23] <cryptosidd> Jordan_U i only see sda and sda1
[19:23] <jimmy51v_> hah!  i sent my previous message to my wife on IM.  i mean to ask if there's a recommended way to choose between echo'ing 'y' or passing -y --force-yes
[19:24] <mansour> jimmy51v_  hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[19:24] <jimmy51v_> mansour: ?
[19:25] <EriC^^> jimmy51v_: i think -y would be better
[19:25] <cryptosidd> Jordan_U:  still there^
[19:25] <mansour>  jimmy51v_ >>>>>>>>>>i sent my previous message to my wife on IM.  i mean to ask if there's a recommended way to choose between echo'ing 'y' or passing -y --force-yes
[19:25] <Jordan_U> cryptosidd: Yes. Please be more patient.
[19:25] <cryptosidd> sorry im in panic mode
[19:25] <cryptosidd> :)
[19:26] <jimmy51v_> thanks
[19:27] <Jordan_U> jimmy51v_: I would recommend almost never echoing y, and only slightly less rarely using --force-yes. The nice thing about a command having a -y option is that you know that the developer thought about what might happen in an unattended situation, and tried to avoid the possibility of -y doing really bad things. That is not true of --force-yes (which implies that the developer didn't think it was a good idea to just ...
[19:27] <Jordan_U> ... blindly always choose yes) and is also not true of echoing y, where the developer didn't plan for it at all.
[19:32] <dyauspitar> I just installed ubuntu 14 and its awesome
[19:32] <dyauspitar> almost bug free
[19:32] <LMNOP> lol
[19:32] <LMNOP> hi
[19:32] <LMNOP> hey where is everyone
[19:32] <dyauspitar> been getting my browser inline with how it was on the windows machine
[19:33] <LMNOP> FF?
[19:33] <LMNOP> Chrome?
[19:33] <dyauspitar> got the plug inst, flash player, adobe connect, silverpipe plug in
[19:33] <dyauspitar> life is good
[19:33] <Terabyte> hey i'm trying to create an upstart script, but whenever i start it, and check its status it says it's stopped, the upstart script exec's a script that's installed locally, that script contains an exec for java, am i doing something wrong?: https://gist.github.com/danielburrell/bf87ee04fa6d1d8bee7f
[19:33] <dyauspitar> yeah
[19:33] <LMNOP> I need flash it has only been about 6 months
[19:33] <dyauspitar> both really
[19:33] <LMNOP> without it
[19:33] <dyauspitar> java is a bish to update
[19:33] <cryptosidd> well
[19:33] <cryptosidd> Jordan_U^
[19:33] <LMNOP> you can say that again
[19:34] <Pici> dyauspitar: Is there a support question here somewhere?  If not, you can join #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat.
[19:34] <LMNOP> he was reporting that Ubuntu was sorking
[19:35] <LMNOP> working*
[19:35] <LMNOP> isnt this the # to discuss ubuntu?
[19:35] <dyauspitar> ok thansk ill join
[19:35] <Pici> LMNOP: This is a support channel.
[19:35] <cryptosidd> Jordan_U can i pv you^
[19:36] <pavlos> cryptosidd, not sure if this helps ... http://rcjbp.wordpress.com/2010/05/13/mount-a-freebsd-filesystem-in-ubuntu/
[19:36] <LMNOP> where do people go to talk about using ubuntu
[19:36] <LMNOP> meh
[19:36] <dyauspitar> I cant find an ubuntu compatible 32 bit download for java 8u25 update
[19:37] <cryptosidd> nope same error
[19:37] <cryptosidd> it say wrong fs type
[19:37] <vitimiti> Hi
[19:38] <LMNOP> may i help u
[19:38] <LMNOP> hi
[19:39] <dyauspitar> hi
[19:39] <dyauspitar> I cant find an ubuntu compatible 32 bit download for java 8u25 update
[19:39] <dyauspitar> I went thro the instructions on java.com but
[19:39] <Slart> dyauspitar: I assuming you're not a java developer since you didn't mention that you're looking for oracle java and not just any java
[19:39] <dyauspitar> when I check my java thro the java site it still reports version 7u25
[19:39] <OerHeks> dyauspitar, if you really need that closed source version, http://ppa.webupd8.org/post/100077683311/oracle-java-7u72-and-8u25-available-in-ppa
[19:40] <dyauspitar> youre correct
[19:40] <Slart> dyauspitar: have you tried the openjdk java that is in the repositories? if it works it's easier to maintain
[19:40] <dyauspitar> I did down load that and its plug in
[19:40] <dyauspitar> ice tea
[19:40] <Slart> dyauspitar: is there a specific reason you need java?
[19:40] <OerHeks> openJDK works for me too, if it fails i question the service
[19:40] <kevindefrene> this might be a stupid question, but what are the advantages of running your OpenVPN server for example bridged on your network compared to non bridged?
[19:40] <dyauspitar> yes i take classes online.  No error yet but I was being proactive
[19:40] <ZZRMike> Does anyone know the default tmp folder for mysql?
[19:41] <dyauspitar> maybe "if its not broke dont fix it?"
[19:41] <Ben64> you'll usually have much less trouble using the one in the ubuntu repositories
[19:41] <dyauspitar> maybe i have ice tea plug in enabled and thats why its working
[19:41] <Slart> dyauspitar: I would go with openjdk then, for now.. and if you run into problems you can switch to oracle java.. I doubt you'll see any differences in your course
[19:41] <dyauspitar> I havent actually had a problem yet, just the java.com version check
[19:41] <nulldata> Hey
[19:42] <dyauspitar> okay ill stay with my config
[19:42] <dyauspitar> Thanks Slart
[19:42] <Slart> dyauspitar: you're welcome
[19:42]  * dyauspitar puts the kettle on for some tea
[19:43] <nulldata> I've just bought a new laptop ( Acer Aspire E 15 ) and both under the installation ( from USB ) and now that the system is installed the touchpad doesn't work.
[19:43] <nulldata> I've tried the `modprobe psmouse` trick but no luck
[19:44] <nulldata> The touchpad device isn't listed under `xinput` either
[19:44] <pavlos> cryptosidd, there is a ufsutils package, do you have that?
[19:45] <nulldata> Only "Virtual core XTEST pointer" and an empty string is listed under "Virtual core pointers", the empty string pointer the id: 11
[19:45] <capruro> Hi
[19:46] <EriC^^> hi
[19:49] <capruro> anyone can help me whit ssh?
[19:50] <dyauspitar> any funny bot commands in this channel?
[19:50] <genii> dyauspitar: The amusing ones are reserved for #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:51] <dyauspitar> thnx
[19:51] <Nokiabot> Dyausptair:unfortunately no infobot here :(
[19:52] <dyauspitar> oh I see
[19:52]  * dyauspitar straightens tie and dress shirt
[19:53] <nulldata> Hmm it seems like I have the same problem as this guy, but his problem haven't received any attention either: http://askubuntu.com/questions/530896/touch-pad-dosent-work-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04-dual-boot-with-windows-8
[19:54] <LMNOP> this blows i have to go to the store because i forgot stuff and then i have to try to install ubunto
[19:55] <LMNOP> maybe some help
[19:56] <Slart> LMNOP: what seems to be the problem?
[19:56] <LMNOP> for starters i dunno which version
[19:56] <Slart> LMNOP: of regular desktop ubuntu?
[19:56] <k1l_> LMNOP: "ubuntu"
[19:57] <LMNOP> i kinda want a pxe setup if poss but yeah deskto[
[19:57] <k1l_> LMNOP: if you make a more specific question you get more specific answers
[19:57] <LMNOP> it is for games
[19:57] <LMNOP> yeah totally
[19:58] <k1l_> pxe is a install setup, you are aware?
[19:58] <Slart> LMNOP: sounds like you want a regular desktop install.. I would go with 64 bit if your cpu can handle it
[19:58] <Jordan_U> LMNOP: If this is the first time you're installing Ubuntu for the first time, doing so via PXE is probably not a good idea.
[19:58] <Quantumpants> hi guys, can anybody tell me how to get itunes for my ubuntu
[19:58] <LMNOP> i do pxe so i can fire up a bunch of vms
[19:58] <arubi> Hi all, today I got this message on my motd : "/dev/sda1 will be checked for errors at next reboot". this is my /boot partition. running 14.04.1 Server 32bit, this never happened before (been running for months now). should I be worried?
[19:59] <LMNOP> to test it there are sooooooo many distros
[19:59] <k1l_> Quantumpants: ask apple for a linux client :) or use wine to use the windows one
[19:59] <Slart> Quantumpants: use wine and a windows version of itunes? I'm not sure if there is an itunes for ubuntu/linux
[19:59] <Quantumpants> thanks guys
[19:59] <Jordan_U> LMNOP: PXE and virtual machines are mostly orthoginal concepts. What is your end goal?
[20:00] <Slart> arubi: it does that every X boots in the default settings.. not sure if X is 10 or 30 or whatever.. but it's quite normal
[20:00] <LMNOP> i want to be able to use a pxe boot
[20:00] <LMNOP> Jordan_U, ^
[20:00] <LMNOP> it is my preferred method for booting
[20:00] <troii> discordianuk has been admitted into hospital
[20:00] <Jordan_U> Quantumpants: I would highly recommend that you just use one of the native music library software options available in Ubuntu instead of trying to use iTunes.
[20:01] <arubi> Slart, thanks. not much rebooting was done on this machine, but it is running for a long time now. good to know it's a 'once in a while' thing.
[20:01] <Jordan_U> LMNOP: Why do you wnat to boot via PXE? What machine will be running the tftp server?
[20:01] <LMNOP> probably a windows vm
[20:02] <LMNOP> i have a lot of hardware with no cdrom
[20:02] <arubi> Slart, I mean, I checked SMART right after I saw this and everything was ok, so I wasn't too worried. thanks for the tip.
[20:02] <k1l_> LMNOP: you can install ubuntu from usb-pen drive
[20:02] <LMNOP> no i cannot
[20:02] <Jordan_U> LMNOP: What machine will be running the tftp server though?
[20:02] <LMNOP> a vm
[20:02] <Jordan_U> LMNOP: On what physical machine?
[20:03] <LMNOP> my Arch Linux PC
[20:03] <Avenger> i downloaded and set up docky.  I'm trying to test out Ubuntu Desktop Next. When I boot the Live USB, I get a "Not a COM32R image" error. By pressing TAB and typing "live", I can get to the desktop environment, but am greeted to a black screen with nothing but a cursor on it. Is there a way to run the USB on live mode?
[20:05] <Avenger> MonkeyDusk : i am very new still. where can i get it, and what do you mean by  Lightdm?
[20:05] <Jordan_U> LMNOP: Ubuntu 14.04, which is the latest release, and is also a long term support release.
[20:05] <k1l_> LMNOP: the answer is plain "ubuntu" if you dont specify anything
[20:05] <ido_> I'm running a machine with i5-760 and GT220 by the way
[20:05] <LMNOP> i wnat to have a grub partition
[20:05] <LMNOP> that i can select iso
[20:05] <LMNOP> mainly Ubuntu, Fedora
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> Avenger  cairo is in the software center; Lightdm is the login menu
[20:06] <LMNOP> Jordan_U, ok as long as it has the latest nvidia
[20:06] <LMNOP> blob
[20:06] <Avenger> MonkeyDust : sudo apt-get install Cairo?
[20:06] <Jordan_U> LMNOP: We can help with booting Ubuntu isos via grub, but not with booting Fedora isos via grub. For booting Fedora isos via grub, you'll have to ask in #fedora (though off the top of my head, I don't think they support loop booting at all).
[20:06] <BluesKaj> ido_, try disabling secure mode in the uefi/bios
[20:06] <Rienzilla> Hey there. If I change /etc/security/limits.conf to increase the max number of open files, what do I do to activate that change?
[20:07] <LMNOP> well it will NEED to boot from iso
[20:07] <LMNOP> they don't?  so they changed it mayhaps
[20:08] <Jordan_U> LMNOP: Ask in #fedora and find out.
[20:08] <ido_> BluesKaj: Is it possible that it is even enabled if stable ISO's and beta versions work and only Desktop Next daily doesn't?
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> Avenger  i guess it's called cairo-dock
[20:08] <k1l_> LMNOP: last time now: what is your actual specific ubuntu question?
[20:08] <LMNOP> when i get back from the store i need dish soap
[20:08] <LMNOP> ok heres another specific q k11
[20:09] <LMNOP> k11 where is some docs on PXE
[20:09] <k1l_> !pxe | LMNOP
[20:09] <LMNOP> pm me if u want i bbl thx
[20:09] <LMNOP> !fail
[20:09] <pavlos> Rienzilla, just logout/login will do
[20:09] <Jordan_U> LMNOP: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[20:09] <LMNOP> ahh thank you
[20:10] <LMNOP> bbl
[20:10] <Rienzilla> pavlos: it's for a process that is started via start-stop-daemon -c user:group
[20:11] <CryptoSiD> hey Jordan_U problem fixed, i used mfsbsd
[20:11] <CryptoSiD> and you were right, there is 2 other partition
[20:11] <talisman87> ll
[20:12] <Rienzilla> hmm, and even logout/llogin doesn't work
[20:13] <pavlos> Rienzilla, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/108603/do-changes-in-etc-security-limits-conf-require-a-reboot
[20:14] <Rienzilla> pavlos: that's apparently not true
[20:14] <Rienzilla> a new ssh session still has the old values
[20:16] <alexgl> I need to figure out a way to create and deploy images of windows 7 drives and I would like to use an ubuntu virtual machine as the server. VM issues aside, so far trying to setup clonezilla on 14.04 lts is just plain old agravating as the packages do not mach instructions I can find. Has anyone had success with this combo ubuntu 14.04 lts and clonezilla drbl for win7?
[20:18] <arubi> alexgl, this isn't an answer to your question, but as a side note, I was successful in running a live win7
[20:18] <arubi> (tbc)
[20:18] <alexgl> arubi: the live clonezilla cd?
[20:18] <arubi> over pxe-tftp from hiren's bootcd
[20:19] <arubi> I clonezilla is a major part of drbl so.. but I didn't try running that
[20:20] <arubi> (sorry for the typos, I'm not on my native keyboard)
[20:20] <alexgl> arubi: that's part of the problem, when configuring drbl on 14.04 it says i'm missing a bunch of packages
[20:20] <arubi> like which?
[20:21] <Jarli> Anyone out there familiar with Gnome Nanny?
[20:21] <alexgl> arubi: mkswap-uuid drbl-chntpw mkpxeinitrd-net freedos
[20:22] <arubi> you should probably run some type of dhcp server and tftp server
[20:23] <arubi> alexgl, is the ubuntu setup only there to host the win7 image? maybe use the drbl image and that's it?
[20:24] <alexgl> arubi you don't need a full ubuntu server running drbl?
[20:24] <alexgl> arubi could you point me to a link where i can see how to set it up?
[20:25] <Jordan_U> alexgl: How did you try to install drbl?
[20:25] <arubi> alexgl, http://drbl.sourceforge.net/
[20:25] <Jarli> #ubuntu-gnome
[20:25] <arubi> more specifically : http://drbl.sourceforge.net/download/
[20:26] <arubi> the live image is perfect
[20:28] <alexgl> Jordan_U: I've been going through how-to on clonezilla and the official ubuntu how-to at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Clonezilla_Server_Edition
[20:31] <Jordan_U> alexgl: At what point did you get the error message about missing a bunch of packages? Did you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list at all?
[20:33] <alexgl> Jordan_U arubi i am actually a bit stuck at Server Setup for clients step on that last link I sent
[20:33] <alexgl> Jordan_U arubi I thought I added it with a command, it was last week...
[20:35] <Jordan_U> alexgl: You thought you added what with a command? The instructions about editing your sources.list are only for 6+ year old versions of Ubuntu, so you really shouldn't have followed them.
[20:35] <alexgl> Jordan_U: I did notice that so I wasn't able to follow that step
[20:35] <arubi> alexgl, on that live image, two scripts are on the desktop. one for setting up drbl (for pxe booting iso's or for thin clients), and the other for setting up a clonezilla server. both pretty much automatic
[20:36] <Jordan_U> alexgl: Good. Did you run "sudo apt-get install drbl" to install drbl?
[20:37] <alexgl> Jordan_U: i found it in the Ubuntu Software Center and installed it through that
[20:38] <alexgl> Jordan_U: it says drbl is already the newest version.
[20:39] <Jordan_U> alexgl: Great. So where were you seeing an error message about "missing a bunch of packages"?
[20:40] <Happy10years> Happpy birthday!
[20:41] <alexgl> Jordan_U: i ran this: drblsrv -i
[20:42] <Jordan_U> alexgl: Please pastebin the exact output of that command.
[20:43] <alexgl> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8606249/
[20:43] <alexgl> Jordan_U: at the bottom
[20:44] <Avenger_> Is there an app to use with linux ubuntu for defraging the hard disk? i remember old versions of windows my dad would always defrag
[20:45] <dyauspitar> yeah good question
[20:45] <k1l_> Avenger_: ubuntu uses another filesystems that dont need that
[20:45] <pavlos> Avenger_, linux does not need defrag
[20:45] <Avenger_> oh no kidding.
[20:45] <dyauspitar> okay best OS ever
[20:45] <bekks> Avenger_: Linux isnt Windows, and linux filesystems work quite differently - no need to defrag on linux.
[20:45] <Avenger_> that is really neat.
[20:46] <Avenger_> you are both nice people. thank you for the support.
[20:48] <Jordan_U> alexgl: I'm not sure how do deal with that.
[20:52] <vox_> ATTENZIONE: Non e' stata intercettata la versione originale di lynx.
[20:52] <vox_> Questo script e' in grado di funzionare sono con lynx e non links2.
[20:52] <k1l_> !it | vox_
[20:53] <alexgl> Jordan_U arubi so is 14.04 LTS just too new for drbl?
[20:53] <alexgl> on drbl page they say instructions work for 14.04 but... they don't seem to
[20:54] <bekks> alexgl: They dont see to what? :)
[20:55] <alexgl> bekks: at the bottom of this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8606249/ and this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8606374/
[20:56] <arubi> alexgl, I think you might not have all the needed repositories, take a look at this : http://free.nchc.org.tw/drbl/pool/drbl/stable/
[20:56] <arubi> all those missing packages are found there
[20:58] <miss_sunshine> d
[20:58] <miss_sunshine> str(round(1,7)) in Python, then how can I make it return 1,70?
[21:01] <trism> miss_sunshine: round(1, 7) would round the number 1 to 7 digits, which is still 1, also #python is more appropriate to these sorts of questions
[21:03] <alexgl> arubi: how would i ad them to sources?
[21:04] <bekks> alexgl: Described here: http://drbl.sourceforge.net/installation/02-install-required-packages.php
[21:05] <bekks> alexgl: As you can see the URL for the packages is the same for 12.04 to 13.10, so a quick look at the URL content should reveal that they will work on 14.04 as well.
[21:08] <JCT> what's that unity3d webplayer fork being called on ubuntu again? i sitalled it and forgot it's name, but i'm running xubuntu and chromium, and the unity3d web games won't launch even though i installed it
[21:09] <JCT> it uses wine and i have wine already
[21:09] <JCT> do i have to start a program for it to work?
[21:09] <trism> JCT: you should check if it works in firefox, it is probably an NPAPI plugin and so won't work in chrome/chromium anymore
[21:09] <arubi> alexgl, I can't find that repo's gpg key, but technically you'd need to create a file "drbl.list" in "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/", and in it paste the line "deb http://free.nchc.org.tw/drbl/ drbl stable"
[21:10] <JCT> yea, i noticed chromeapps that use NPAPI don't work almost at all...
[21:10] <JCT> okbai
[21:10] <arubi> alexgl, then `sudo apt-get update`, and those packages should be found next time. if they're compatible with 14.04, I can't really tell...
[21:11] <MagicSpud> hello why Terminal is not among the options to open a script in shell? using ubuntu 14.04 hre
[21:12] <MagicSpud> and how could I bring it up
[21:13] <alexgl> arubi bekks ok i got it to pull them from drbl repository, i think
[21:13] <OerHeks> JCT go for PPAPI  versions, like pepperflash
[21:14] <arubi> alexgl, you can try running `apt-cache policy <package-name>` for each of the packages that were not found. if you're getting a sane output out of that, then you have a source for those packages.
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> MagicSpud  right click on the file, properties > permissions > Allow executing etc
[21:14] <MagicSpud> done
[21:14] <alexgl> arubi: so far so good it's downloading them and looks like unpacking
[21:15] <MagicSpud> but it will open the file with gedit MonkeyDrone
[21:15] <MagicSpud> but it will open the file with gedit MonkeyDust
[21:15] <arubi> great, hope those really are compatible ubuntu debs'
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> MagicSpud  right click, open with
[21:15] <MagicSpud> yep and terminal is not in the list!
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> MagicSpud  after you set "make executable", it should ask if you want to run it terminal
[21:17] <MagicSpud> It wont
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> MagicSpud  then i don't know
[21:18] <MagicSpud> I only can run it from terminal
[21:18] <alexgl> Jordan_U arubi bekks thank you guys, looks like it's installing packages now
[21:18] <MagicSpud> pathfinding the file
[21:19] <MagicSpud> thanks anyway MonkeyDust, I think I ll add a shortcut the old way
[21:19] <arubi> good luck alexgl
[21:21] <MagicSpud> MonkeyDust, I got it working adding first the shortcut in main menu using alacarte
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> MagicSpud  great!
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[21:24] <acerspyro> GIMP never remembers the settings I gave it the last time I ran it, anyone know why?
[21:24] <acerspyro> iei
[21:26] <ses1984> i have a samba share set to mount in /media/foo when i boot, and on my desktop i have some symlinks pointing to locations within this share. am i doing something wrong or atypical here?
[21:26] <ses1984> if my network flakes out even a little bit, the symlinks report as broken, even after the network comes back
[21:26] <ses1984> i either have to delete and recreate the symlinks, or restart the desktop environment
[21:27] <ses1984> is there some other pattern i can follow instead that will be more tolerant of a flakey network?
[21:28] <arubi> acerspyro, what's the output of `ls -l ~/.gimp-2.8` ?
[21:28] <rcix> got a bit of a puzzle for everyone here
[21:28] <rcix> i use ibus-hangul, and i was troubleshooting some issues with it (mostly by reinstalling things)
[21:28] <acerspyro> rcix: What's blue and teleports?
[21:28] <rcix> lol acer
[21:28] <ghutzriop> HI! I'm using ubuntu 14.10 and I have both kde and gnome installed. now I try to use an vpn, but even tough the network manager says it's connected, it is simply ignored(whatismyip.com shows my original ip). how can solve this?
[21:28] <rcix> and when removing and reinstalling ibus and ibus-hangul
[21:29] <rcix> ...i no longer have a system settings app
[21:29] <rcix> either that or im completely forgetting what its called
[21:29] <xangua> !14.10 | ghutzriop
[21:29] <k1l_> rcix: see the apt logs in /var/log to see what packages got removed
[21:31] <simonor> Question for all you 14.10 Beta's: Any improvement in Broadcom support?(I'll find out on Thursday anyway)
[21:33] <kostkon> simonor, #ubuntu+1 for 14.10
[21:33] <rcix> well okay then
[21:33] <rcix> for some reason it decided to remove unity-control-center
[21:33] <rcix> to apt-get
[21:33] <simonor> Thanks KostKon. Ciao.
[21:35] <ghutzriop> xangua: kthxbye
[21:35] <rcix> okay i have system settings
[21:35] <rcix> that leaves me with my original problem, which seems to be an ibus-hangul one
[21:36] <rcix> anyone here able to help with that, or is there a better channel i canl ook in?
[21:37] <acerspyro> rcix: Please hold on while we process your request
[21:38]  * acerspyro turns the request into a cheezeburger
[21:38] <rcix> lol
[21:38] <rcix> the problem being it won't combine characters - ㅇㅏㄴㄴㅕㅇ should look like 안녕 (copied from a web IME)
[21:38] <rcix> it was behaving until this morning
[21:39] <imbezol> makes it hard to draw alien laser war ascii animations
[21:39] <DX099> hi all
[21:39] <DX099> is anyone testing daily utopic unicorn isos ?
[21:40] <benzhninja> also if anyone here has played jetpack joyride, I've got a really funny video to show you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh2zgELokkY
[21:40] <DX099> I want to try using one on  Virtualbox and graphics are broken
[21:40] <imbezol> DX099: try #ubuntu+1
[21:40] <DX099> imbezol, thanks !
[21:40] <rcix> ah ha, i found #ibus
[21:40] <paris> is this Linux Mint chat?
[21:40] <acerspyro>  '/==[ ---- Oo.oOo.oO
[21:40] <acerspyro> paris: no
[21:41] <bean1020> Hey, does anyone here know how to make gnome desktop background into a live website?
[21:41] <bean1020> been trying to find a solution to it and can't wrap my head around it
[21:41] <paris> So how can I join Linux mint?
[21:41] <acerspyro> paris: take a wild guess
[21:41] <kostkon> !mint | paris
[21:42] <kostkon> paris, there you go
[21:45] <Kyte_> Could anyone point me to a good tutorial for learning how to operate Linux?
[21:49] <bazhang> !manual | Kyte
[21:49] <bazhang> !rute | and this Kyte
[21:50] <Nectar> Can someone tell me if i can install the latest lubuntu on on the toshiba ac100?
[21:50] <Kyte> What about for more CLI type tutorial, so for Linux in Gerneral?
[21:50] <Kyte> General*
[21:51] <bo`> you want to start learning unix then
[21:51] <tonyg3622> i'm trying to upgrade the kernel and initrd image for pxe booted ubuntu 14.04 installation. i am using the same conf files and modules as before, however for one class of my machines I get "can't open /run/net-eth0.conf kernel panic not syncing init." i have the right modules as checked against my previous version. does anyone have any idea why simply upgrading would break this?
[21:51] <Kyte> I s'pose I do. heh
[21:51] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[21:51] <Kyte> Thanks
[21:53] <cordyceps> is there a command that returns the type and quantity of RAM?
[21:54] <jhutchins> cordyceps: lshw will
[21:54] <genii> cordyceps: sudo lshw -C memory
[21:54] <cordyceps> thx!
[21:54]  * cordyceps goin in...
[21:54] <jhutchins> genii: thx.  Can never remember the syntax.
[21:55] <jhutchins> cordyceps: lshw may not be installed...
[21:55] <OerHeks> !info dmidecode
[21:55] <ajax0x217> First time using IRC and I'm already feeling at home.
[21:57] <acovrig> Is it possible for Client laptop to connect to a LAN behind another OpenVPN client (see this diagram: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8606998/)?
[22:00] <ajax0x217> Things are dead here
[22:00] <genii> ajax0x217: It ebbs and flows. Should be pretty busy in 3 days when 14.10 arrives.
[22:01] <Avenger_> Docky keeps disappearing! im getting pissed now. why does it keep going away? all i want is a neat task bar at the bottom of my screen!
[22:01] <ajax0x217> haha I cant wait for that
[22:01] <MagicSpud> hello! one particular case here in which I formated system partition when upgrading but not home one...the point is all the programs installed using wine are still there but the menu shortcuts are not working...which would be the best way to re-sync or if better to re-create them?
 First timer
[22:03] <ajax0x217> Why do I feel so happy to be on IRC? The geek part of my soul is amazed
[22:06] <kaddi> ok, for the last few days Iǘe had horrible issues with my wifi.. can't stay connected for more than a few minutes before the transmitted rate drops to 0b/s
[22:10] <Hardcore7> kaddi, i know your trouble; it sucks...
[22:10] <Hardcore7> have you tried a different driver?
[22:10] <MagicSpud> just to get to understand wine a bit better...does it work entirely from the home folder...or does it need host system files to get the applications working?..I guess as being installed on ubuntu via apt... It is just like anyother program and I will need to reinstall all the applications I got on the previous ubuntu version...right?
[22:10] <tgm4883> kaddi: what card?
[22:11] <kaddi> i ve reverted to a previous kernel version, which improves things a bit
[22:11] <kaddi> lemme get that for you.. i've witched to win8 for now
[22:11] <kaddi> (and knowing how much i dislike win8... that means a lot :p)
[22:11] <kaddi> itś intel
[22:12] <tgm4883> MagicSpud: I believe that is incorrect. You have a ~/.wine/ folder that contains all of your windows programs and stuff. You would need to install Wine after the upgrade, but it should automatically see everything you previously installed
[22:12] <MagicSpud> thanks for the tip
[22:12] <tgm4883> kaddi: I don't know the current status, but I recall seeing quite a few posts about the intel drivers and needing to disable N and/or power management on them
[22:12] <MagicSpud> that was my first thought...
[22:12] <ajax0x217> I switched from windows to Ubuntu and I am alot happier than before must be the trust tar taste it has
[22:13] <kaddi> MagicSpud, iǘe already done that.. it helped until about 2 weeks ago
[22:13] <MagicSpud> but trying to sync shortcuts with wine folder applications is driving me nuts
[22:13] <Hardcore7> i'm running a quadraboot xD windows 2012 R2, windows 8.1, arch linux and ubuntu xD
[22:13] <MagicSpud> it didnt work kaddi
[22:13] <kaddi> MagicSpud, how do you mean?
[22:14] <Hardcore_> xxx
[22:14] <kaddi> ah sorry, got you mixed up
[22:15] <kaddi> tgm4883, itś a samsung ativ book 9 with an intel ac7260 wifi card. I think this problem relates to mine: http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2014-10/msg14009.html
[22:16] <squinty> MagicSpud:  fwiw, there is a #wine channel here on freenode
[22:17] <madalin__> screen
[22:20] <tgm4883> kaddi: were you able to test what david wood stated was helping him in that bug report
[22:20] <tgm4883> kaddi: also, it's much easier to follow that bug report here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1354975
[22:20] <kaddi> no, not yet. tgm4883... just found it now that iḿ able to actually use the wifi to google
[22:20] <kaddi> :p
[22:20] <zenman11_> had 12.04 server (encrypted homedir) on an ssd, attempted to remove cryptswap using instructions here: http://www.logilab.org/blogentry/29155. machine no longer boots, am i totally screwed trying to erase this drive?
[22:21] <zenman11_> i just want to zero the drive out, can't even mount it on a mac, or pc either - not being recognized
[22:22] <kaddi> tgm4883, gonna try now bbiaw
[22:23] <bean1020> @zenman11 try zeroing the drive and starting from scratch
[22:23] <genii> Alternately, just zero out the MBR
[22:23] <squinty> zenman11_:  gparted see it maybe?
[22:24] <t-ask> Hi, Has anyone a nice triple head xorg.conf file with just one graphics card working? I'm using the Nvidia 770 with three screens while two of them are from the same manufacturer and all are FullHD.
[22:24] <zenman11_> bean1020: i want to zero it out, but all i have is a mac and a pc, neither of which can detect the drive
[22:24] <zenman11_> squinty: i don't have another linux machine
[22:24] <zenman11_> squinty: unless i use virtualbox on my windows pc maybe - but i doubt it'll be able to see the drive there
[22:25] <squinty> zenman11_:  gparted live usb or cd/dvd
[22:25] <ObrienDave> zenman11_, try a live cd/dvd?
[22:25] <zenman11_> ObrienDave, squinty : don't have an optical drive
[22:25] <zenman11_> basically fucked
[22:25] <ObrienDave> install live system to USB stick?
[22:25] <Spec> zenman11_: language pls
[22:26] <cinnamonrollz> Guys Ive got a question, Whats the last build of ubuntu that doesnt require pae
[22:26] <zenman11_> i guess i could make a live usb, boot my windows pc up with that, and attempt it?, sorry Spec
[22:26] <squinty> zenman11_:  read my comments again and please remember this is a family channel
[22:26] <bean1020> @zenman11_ give me a second, you can make a bootable usb to wipe it
[22:27] <zenman11_> squinty: if i do a live usb, i'd have to use my windows pc - boot that up using the usb stick, and then plug in the ubuntu drive with another usb thingy, and then wipe it?
[22:27] <squinty> zenman11_:  why not just plug it in to the machine with the problem?
[22:28] <zenman11_> squinty: it's mobo doesn't support usb booting - it's from 2006 lol
[22:28] <zenman11_> squinty: Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe
[22:28] <squinty> zenman11_:  pretty much limits your choice then  :)
[22:28] <ObrienDave> BIOS might have "external drive". try that
[22:29] <zenman11_> ObrienDave: it has "Removable" which corresponds i guess to a floppy
[22:29] <bean1020> @zenman11_ do you have dvd booting then? or cd booting
[22:29] <zenman11_> bean1020: i don't have any optical drive, no
[22:29] <ObrienDave> no optical
[22:29] <Bashing-om> cinnamonrollz: see; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2211590 .
[22:29] <bean1020> @zenman11_ http://www.killdisk.com/downloadfree.htm
[22:29] <bean1020> try going there
[22:30] <bean1020> see if one of those will work for you
[22:30] <squinty> bean1020:  no need for the @ when typing someones nick
[22:30] <bean1020> squinty thanks!
[22:30] <squinty> bean1020: yw
[22:30] <zenman11_> bean1020: does this software require that the OS can see the disk? If so, it won't work - no OS I have can recognize the drive
[22:30] <bean1020> squinty does it turn a different color when I use your username? I am very new to the irc
[22:31] <EriC^^> zenman11_: virtualbox can see the disk if you use a rawdisk image
[22:31] <bean1020> zenman11_ try hooking it up into your windows computer and reboot the computer
[22:31] <squinty> bean1020:  yes.  you can type the first few letters of someones nick and then press the tab key for auto complete
[22:31] <zenman11_> bean1020: i'll give it a shot, thx - EriC^^: what do you mean by rawdisk?
[22:31] <bean1020> squinty,  that makes it so much easier too
[22:32] <EriC^^> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk
[22:32] <bean1020> zenman11_, after the reboot, open up diskmanagement
[22:32] <squinty> bean1020:  some irc software will also allow  double click on the nick and then paste so no typing is needed
[22:32] <EriC^^> zenman11_: you create a file that represents the disk, and use it as the vm's disk
[22:33] <zenman11_> bean1020: right now when i go in diskmanagement, it can see the disk - it wants to initialize it, but then fails saying "Disk not ready". I'm guessing this is just the encrypted partition failing to mount
[22:33] <bean1020> zenman11_, from there format it
[22:34] <bean1020> zenman11_,  right click and it should have an option to format
[22:34] <zenman11_> bean1020: can't though, everything just fails
[22:34] <ObrienDave> zenman11_, how are you trying to read the drive currently? what size drive?
[22:34] <zenman11_> ObrienDave: I have a USB>SATA connector, powered by wall power. It's a 128gb SSD, toshiba
[22:35] <ObrienDave> k
[22:35] <bean1020> zenman11_, it might be fried
[22:35] <miso> hi , is there easy way to full table ps_stock_availability ? i  have it empty and stock managment is not working beecouse its empty :)
[22:36] <bean1020> squinty, is there a way to make it so I don't have to see everyone who logs in and out?
[22:36] <zenman11_> bean1020: the only evidence i have to the contrary, is that i * was * able to boot the old server up with the drive in it. that was until i attempted to remove cryptswap and probably borked the drive
[22:36] <ObrienDave> bean1020, right click channel, hide join/part
[22:36] <ObrienDave> in settings
[22:39] <zenman11_> bean1020: tried killdisk - couldn't do it either. i'm almost convinced now that this drive is still encrypted. i'm guessing my best play is the Live USB route then
[22:39] <zenman11_> when I do get that going, squinty, ObrienDave, how can I erase/decrypt if it ever becomes visible again?
[22:40] <zenman11_> these were the commands i ran previously: http://www.logilab.org/blogentry/29155
[22:40] <ObrienDave> zenman11_, kill the partition, make new one
[22:40] <bean1020> ObrienDave, I am using xchat, and i don't see it in the settings
[22:40] <bean1020> zenman11_, agreed, kill the partition
[22:40] <ObrienDave> bean1020, right click channel, settings, hide
[22:40] <ObrienDave> bean1020, do yourself a favor, install HexChat
[22:41] <bean1020> ObrienDave, much better?
[22:41] <ObrienDave> try it :))
[22:41] <bean1020> ObrienDave, and that fixed my problem
[22:43] <bean1020> ObrienDave, Just got it
[22:44] <bean1020> ObrienDave, It is fantastic in comparison
[22:44] <ObrienDave> knew you would like it
[22:45] <bean1020> ObrienDave, much more visually pleasing for chat
[22:47] <biella_> d
[22:50] <bean1020> ObrienDave, do you know anything about virtualbox?
[22:51] <ObrienDave> a bit, but
[22:51] <ObrienDave> OT for this channel
[22:52] <Avenger_> hey friends.
[22:52] <bean1020> ObrienDave, yeah, I know I am just struggling to get this to work :-(
[22:52] <zenman11_> bean1020: i can also maybe answer questions
[22:53] <ObrienDave> bean1020, #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:53] <NCS_One> hi
[22:53] <NCS_One> anyone using evrouter?
[22:55] <ObrienDave> bean1020, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:55] <bean1020> kk
[22:57] <squinty> bean1020:  there is also #vbox on freenode which is a specific channel for virtualbox
[22:57] <azizLIGHT> help i have this shadow on my screen and i dont know how to get rid of it?
[22:57] <azizLIGHT> ubunt 14.04 with a nvidia gtx 770 using the xorgedgers ppa with 340.46
[22:57] <azizLIGHT> heres what it looks like: http://i.imgur.com/pBOKTMh.png
[22:58] <zenman11_> ohhh, squinty, ObrienDave - i just booted the drive back up in the old machine...no idea why it let me boot. now is there a way to decrypt this drive from within itself?
[23:00] <zenman11_> interestingly when it booted this time it didn't report the encrypted swap being mounted, it mounted the new swap i made up in /dev/sda5
[23:01] <zenman11_> anyone have experience decrypting ubuntu server drives?
[23:01] <LinusTorvaldII> hi squinty are u the one from PA?
[23:01] <zenman11_> he left LinusTorvaldII
[23:01] <LinusTorvaldII> ok
[23:01] <LinusTorvaldII> ty
[23:04] <kaddi> tgm4883,  how do i do the last two steps of the instructions with the firmware?
[23:15] <kaddiii> tgm4883, you still around?
[23:17] <unclescratchie> help with wifi,  connection is good, hulu streams slow, youtube is fine
[23:28] <Avenger_> Hiw do i change my computers hostname?
[23:30] <Bashing-om> Avenger_: edit " /etc/hosts , /etc/hostname " .
[23:30] <Avenger_> Bashing-om : do i type that in terminal?
[23:31] <zenman11_> anyone know why i can't wipe this drive that had ubuntu server 12.04 lts installed on it?
[23:31] <Bashing-om> Avenger_: no will have to activate a text editor with the privileges to edit a system file.
[23:32] <Avenger_> Bashing-om : i am too new to try this. that sounds too scarry and my dad said not to listen.
[23:32] <Avenger_> thank you very much for the responce though friend.
[23:34] <_temp_> hi, i'm trying to follow steps from a bug report, but I don't know how to do the following steps
[23:34] <_temp_> 4. loaded firmware version <IP_ADDRESS> op_mode iwlmvm
[23:34] <_temp_> 5. linux-firmware 1.127.7
[23:34] <_temp_> how do I get a specific version of firmware and how do I check if ti's loaded
[23:34] <celroc> Avenger_: Typing "gksu gedit /etc/hostname" in a terminal without the quotes and pressing enter, then inputting your password at the prompt and pressing enter again should open it in a GUI editor with proper privileges
[23:34] <_temp_> (and finally what does op_mode iwlmvm" mean
[23:35] <Avenger_> celroc : i will try that.
[23:35] <Avenger_> celroc : i think you are a nice man. thank you very much for being friendly.
[23:36] <celroc> Avenger_: Thanks, I give credit to Bashing-om for listing where the files were located, too.  I sort of springboarded off of his response, so to speak
[23:36] <zykotick9> !hostname | Avenger_
[23:36] <zykotick9> Avenger_: careful, i think celroc's suggestion, by itself, will break sudo on your system!
[23:37] <celroc> zykotick9: It will?  I'm sorry, I didn't hear about that
[23:37] <Avenger_> celroc : (gedit:3800): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[23:37] <Avenger_> i tried to name is Tobasco and press save
[23:38] <celroc> Avenger_: Um, I might have messed up, apparently.  I was not aware of the issue zykotick9 brought up.
[23:38] <Avenger_> zykotick9 : i have done something terriable!
[23:39] <zykotick9> Avenger_: i dount it's "terrible" but, i don't know the fix, good luck.
[23:39] <zykotick9> s/dount/don't/
[23:39] <Avenger_> zykotick9 : holy mother of turok have i brke something???
[23:40] <Avenger_> sudo apt-get will not work anymore?
[23:40] <zykotick9> Avenger_: try "sudo ls" ans see if that works...
[23:40] <Bashing-om> Avenger_: All fixable .. do not PAnic.
[23:40] <Avenger_> zykotick9 : brandon@brandon-HP-Pavilion-TS-Sleekbook-14:~$ sudo ls
[23:40] <Avenger_> Desktop					 Pictures
[23:40] <Avenger_> Documents				 PlayOnLinux's virtual drives
[23:40] <Avenger_> Downloads				 Public
[23:40] <Avenger_> examples.desktop			 Slideshow
[23:40] <Avenger_> Firefox_wallpaper.png			 Templates
[23:40] <unopaste> Avenger_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:41] <celroc> Avenger_: It looks like sudo is still working
[23:42] <Avenger_> celroc what is sudo?
[23:42] <ObrienDave> Avenger_, Super User DO
[23:42] <celroc> Avenger_: It is a tool commonly used in the linux command-line to run things as the root ("super") user
[23:43] <Avenger_> i wanted to change my host name to TobascoSauce
[23:43] <celroc> ObrienDave: I may be wrong, but I believe it is actually "Switch User Do" as you can actually use sudo to run commands in accounts other than the root, too.  Root is just the default :-)
[23:43] <zykotick9> ObrienDave: actually "switch user" i believe...
[23:45] <kaddi> bleh
[23:45] <kaddi> tgm4883: did everything that's in that list.. still having problems
[23:46] <celroc> Avenger_: If you open a new terminal, does it list the hostname you typed in that file earlier?
[23:46] <Bashing-om> Avenger_: MY file -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8607982/ , see where " 1404mini", change in your file to " TobascoSauce " -> gksudo gedit /etc/host <- ; next is to change "/etc/hostname" .
[23:48] <Avenger_> Bashing-om : what file do i open on my computer sir?
[23:49] <celroc> Avenger_: Try "gksu gedit /etc/hosts" to get the file he lists
[23:50] <Bashing-om> Avenger_: In terminal do:  -> gksudo gedit /etc/host <- opens the file for editing, make the edit and save the file.
[23:51] <Avenger_> okay i pressed save
[23:51] <Avenger_> now exit the editor?
[23:51] <bella> when updating ubuntu, the computer froze and now the computer is extremely slow and the font on the desktop changes and then changes back to the original font, its weird. also my external usb drives dont work so i cant backup files. please help
[23:52] <Avenger> bashing-om : my host name did not change
[23:53] <Bashing-om> Avenger: Well, did you 'save' the file after making the edit ( changing whatever was in that field to TobascoSauce ) ?  - easy does it !
[23:53] <squid22> hello
[23:54] <zenman11_> can anyone help me get ubuntu off a hard drive so i can install windows on it?
[23:54] <Avenger> Bashing-om yes sir i changed it to tobascosauce and clicked save. terminal still says a big host name from before
[23:54] <squid22> @zenman11: all you have to do is format the hard drive
[23:54] <Avenger> i like tobascosauce and i hope i can name my computer it.
[23:54] <celroc> Avenger: You may need to open a new terminal to see the change in hostname
[23:55] <Avenger> celroc : i did that too my friendship and it still says brandon-HP-Pavilion-TS-Sleekbook-14:~$
[23:55] <Avenger> my name is brandon
[23:55] <Bashing-om> Avenger: I said above, we must edit 2 files .. right ? .. so next is -> gksudo gedit /etc/hostname <- .. where the old name was, change to "TobascoSauce", save the file and exit. Log off and back on to see the change.
[23:56] <OerHeks> you need to logout/login to let it take effect
[23:56] <Avenger> okay friends i will try.
[23:57] <bella> when updating ubuntu, the computer froze and now the computer is extremely slow and the font on the desktop changes and then changes back to the original font, its weird. also my external usb drives dont work so i cant backup files. please help
[23:58] <celroc> bella: Sorry, I don't know a direct fix.  If you can open a terminal, try "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" to run the updater, maybe it will help fix whatever broke
[23:59] <squid22> bella: you can also try "sudo apt-get -f install"


[02:27] <lfittl> is it intentional that /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.19-*/include/linux/config.h does not exist anymore?
[04:58] <Slyth100> I keep getting this error message when I try to compile kernel-source 2.4.27 for kernel 2.6.15-23-386. Have I got the right kernel source? I presume so because it came with the cd. Here is the error message: gcc-3.3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o scripts/mkdep scripts/mkdep.c
[04:58] <Slyth100> make: gcc-3.3: Command not found
[04:58] <Slyth100> make: *** [scripts/mkdep]  Error 127
[06:32] <minghua> hi, after an update in feisty, my computer can't boot anymore
[06:32] <minghua> the dev-mapper seems to be looking for physical volume before ide kernel modules are loaded
[06:33] <minghua> so of course it can't find any hard drives and decide there is no LVM VG to activate
[06:33] <minghua> and then I don't have a root file system
[06:33] <minghua> what package should I file bug against?
[10:38] <tormod> I filed a bug on 2.6.19, but it seems nobody get notified, and it is not fed to the kernel-bugs ML.
[07:55] <matjan> hi i follwed this guide to detect cpu temperature, but when i do 'sudo modprobe i2c-sensor' it says: FATAL: Module i2c_sensor not found. what could be the problem?
[08:00] <pmjdebruijn> matjan, I don't think that module exists... at all...
[09:43] <tormod> Anyone knows how to force DMA (on ATA drives) in 2.6.19 ?
[10:50] <matjan> hi, i followed a guide for being able to monitor the cpu temperature: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_detect_CPU_temperature.2C_fan_speeds_and_voltages_.28lm-sensors.29
[10:51] <matjan> when i did 'sudo modprobe i2c-sensor' it gave an fatal error saying that it could not find module i2c_sensor
[10:51] <matjan> is there a way i can solve this?