[12:13] <nagyv> Is there a way to teach openoffice to use kprinter? I have heard about an spadmin program, but aptitude does not now it.
[12:13] <mortici> yettenet: through samba as in winxp/linux or linux to linux?
[12:13] <intelikey> !wacom
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <kevin> i tried loading the drivers for it but it gave me an error that it could not load the module
[12:13] <mortici> !tablet
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <yettenet> Linux to Windows
[12:14] <kevin> ok
[12:14] <mortici> yettenet: you want to use samba
[12:14] <yettenet> mortici: Ok... how to?
[12:14] <mortici> kubuntu? edgy? breezy?
[12:14] <yettenet> kubuntu edgy
[12:15] <Sanne> nagyv: I remember doing this when I used the binary from openoffice.org as I still used Debian. The spadmin app came with the package. Maybe it's already on your (or my, for that matter) system?
[12:15] <mortici> you should have samba pre installed
[12:15] <adeline> bonsoir *
[12:15] <yettenet> Installing
[12:15] <Sanne> nagyv: I will look around, sec
[12:15] <nagyv> Sanne: it isn't
[12:15] <yettenet> mortici: Installed
[12:16] <mortici> yettenet: now just go to remote places, its the button next to the kmenu
[12:16] <cacg> hi
[12:16] <mortici> then click on samba
[12:16] <Sanne> nagyv: 'locate spadmin' gives me two files in /usr/lib/openoffice/program/, try this also.
[12:16] <mortici> make sure both computers are on the same workgroup :)
[12:16] <mortici> kevin: im searching around
[12:17] <kevin> ok
[12:17] <yettenet> mortici: Isn't there a command line solution instead? I'd much more appreciate it
[12:17] <Sanne> nagyv: it even starts if I cll it like that :)
[12:17] <mortici> kevin: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151
[12:17] <nagyv> Sanne: that's it, here is the setup if you would like to add it too: http://susewiki.org/index.php?title=KDE's_printing_with_OpenOffice.org
[12:17] <mortici> yettenet: you mean you want to access shares through a shell?
[12:17] <intelikey> well i prolly just borked somfin else but that should get my printer working
[12:18] <yettenet> mortici: I mean I want to SHARE something which is on a Linux computer, not to access it
[12:18] <Sanne> nagyv: thanks a lot... there's no text in that page, though ;)
[12:18] <mortici> ahhhh
[12:18] <mortici> ok
[12:18] <mortici> you have no gui?
[12:19] <kevin> mortici it says to "Edit this below Section "InputDevice" under the "Configured Mouse". Make sure you use the right "Device" based on how your pad is connected. ie: USB or serial.
[12:19] <kevin> i do not know which file it is talking about
[12:19] <kevin> i have seen this thread b4
[12:19] <yettenet> mortici: I do, but I like it the old way - typing and such
[12:19] <mortici> kevin: /etc/X11/xorg.conf :P
[12:19] <nagyv> Sanne: didn't you missed somehow the link? it works for me
[12:19] <kevin> thanks
[12:20] <Sanne> nagyv: weird. I used the search and found that page, so thanks again :)
[12:20] <mortici> yettenet: ok, you will have to edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf file
[12:20] <mortici> then do smbpasswd -a <username>
[12:21] <mortici> to add a trusted username/password
[12:21] <eric_> what is the path the kde?
[12:21] <Sanne> nagyv: kprinter is very nice. OpenOffice has it's own pdf output, in case you wanted to use kprinter for that (but I guess you already know that...)
[12:21] <eric_> im installing desklist
[12:21] <eric_> for kopete
[12:21] <Krishean> when i go into the System Settings and try to change the window colors, every once and awhile the entire system will lock up. is there any way to fix this?
[12:22] <mortici> yettenet: if you want you can do alt + f2 then type kcontrol and go under internet & networking and click samba and edit a VAST amount of configuration
[12:22] <mortici> stuff you really would have to spend days figuring out throught he conf file :P
[12:22] <nagyv> Sanne: actually I would like to set up a konqueror link to convert things to pdf/print without opening the file, and openoffice has a command line to print, but not to export pdf :)
[12:22] <igorjr> hi, i have problem with samba
[12:22] <yettenet> Thanks, mortici
[12:23] <Sanne> nagyv: ah, clever. I thought this must be for some advanced trickery :)
[12:23] <mortici> yettenet: no a problem :P i love sharing, although i found out that Vista refuses linux to access its shares, but will access any linux share with no attitude
[12:23] <mortici> pos vista gah
[12:23] <igorjr> hi, i have a problem with samba. even though i added a username and assigned a password, it doesn't work when i try to connect with the other pc
[12:24] <nagyv> Sanne: I don't know it yet, but will see soon. Never ever wrote a konqueror "extension" before.
[12:24] <unholyskorn> Anyone ever setup Beryl on kubunut/ubuntu and wanna help me out!?
[12:24] <rbrunhuber> is wwwoffle in feisty not usable if there is not network connection?
[12:24] <Eagle_101> how do you take a screen shot on kubuntu?
[12:24] <Sanne> nagyv: you meand the right click entry thingy? Sevicemenu? I made some, it's very convenient we have that functionality.
[12:25] <test34> nagyv, if you right click on the file, choose print and then a PDF wouldnt that work ?
[12:25] <nagyv> Sanne, test34: that's what I would like to have, but I have no print/pdf option :(
[12:25] <mortici> unholyskorn: i have it running just fine
[12:25] <mortici> unholyskorn: what vid card do you have?
[12:26] <Eagle_101> how do you do a screenshot? (I'm not in kubuntu, but is there some button you can press somewhere?)
[12:26] <test34> nagyv, I have one and I dont think I installed anything extra.. I dont know what make it show up
[12:26] <mortici> igorjr: did you do smbpasswd -a <username>
[12:27] <mortici> Eagle_101: print screen
[12:27] <igorjr> i think so
[12:27] <test34> nagyv, it just says: Print to File (PDF)
[12:27] <igorjr> i did everything the wiki-guide told me
[12:27] <eric_> has anyone installed the desklist plugin for kopete correctly?
[12:27] <mortici> igorjr: what wiki guide?
[12:27] <nagyv> test34: I have a print option for htmls, but not for odt-s or pdf-s
[12:27] <Eagle_101> mortici, and where is that? (on the keyboard?)
[12:27] <igorjr> mortici: there is an guide available
[12:27] <mortici> right next to f12
[12:27] <mortici> igorjr: link me :P
[12:27] <igorjr> mortici: kk
[12:28] <mortici> Eagle_101: should be next to f12
[12:28] <Eagle_101> ok thanks :D
[12:28] <mortici> :P
[12:28] <igorjr> http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/redir.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Feasylinux.info%2Fwiki%2FUbuntu_dapper
[12:29] <igorjr> but it would appreciate it very much, if you could help me anyways
[12:29] <unholyskorn> Mortici i have the ati aiw radeon x800xt
[12:29] <igorjr> i half the way to madness
[12:29] <unholyskorn> im trying to Creating the login session entry
[12:30] <mortici> unholyskorn: eeeek i don't know how to do it with a ati card, ive only done nvidia and intel, ask in #beryl i know xsacha is runnig on a ati card and can help you
[12:30] <mortici> igorjr: gimmie a sec i know it was never extreamly complicated for me to share
[12:30] <igorjr> yeah
[12:30] <mortici> do you want authentication? as in a user name and password, and do you want read and write?
[12:30] <lordmaynoth_> does anyone know if these errors are because I need something for QT installed
[12:30] <lordmaynoth_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9004/
[12:31] <igorjr> i want read and write in the folders i share
[12:31] <igorjr> i want to copy the 6.10 kubunto iso, so i can burn it
[12:31] <igorjr> don't have a cd-writer in my pc
[12:31] <mortici> lordmaynoth_: what is that from, and no qt is fine its talking about some device
[12:32] <mortici> so your trying to share a folder on your linux box? and access it from a winxp?
[12:32] <igorjr> mortici: the other pc is a windows machine, as you probably guessed
[12:32] <test34> nagyv, how about from the command line ?
[12:32] <stdin> !baddevice
[12:32] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[12:32] <xnp> lordmaynoth_: you have to edit your xorg.conf to remove some wacom things
[12:32] <xnp> cause you dont use them
[12:33] <joel> lordmaynoth_: Looks like harmless warnings. Do you have an issue with the application?
[12:33] <nagyv> test34: what you mean?
[12:33] <test34> nagyv, something like: http://blog.vojta.name/archives/2005/04/03/T23_43_03/
[12:34] <mortici> igorjr: how about you try this, it might be easier, press alt + f2 then type kcontrol then go to internet & network and click on samba, click administrator mode and add your share
[12:35] <eMaX> ne1 here uses cvs on ubuntu? for some reason I keep getting connection refused
[12:35] <igorjr> mortici: trying
[12:35] <mortici> igorjr: that wiki is wacky i never did any of that stuff
[12:36] <igorjr> ah, but i started from 0 about 3 days ago
[12:36] <igorjr> gives me a feeling of security in this very complicated world of linux
[12:36] <mortici> igorjr: you can also do it the simple way of right clicking on the folder going to properties then click on the share tab and then configure sharing :P
[12:37] <igorjr> ofcouse, but i get the login-window anyway
[12:37] <igorjr> nearly made me crazy
[12:37] <igorjr> worked, can acces now
[12:37] <mortici> igorjr: i know :P
[12:38] <mortici> :P
[12:38] <igorjr> thank you very much ;)
[12:38] <mortici> not a problem :D
[12:38] <Sanne> igorjr: do you have the links to the official ubuntu and kubuntu wikis?
[12:39] <stdin> eMaX: I use it all the time, works here
[12:39] <igorjr> no, sanne
[12:39] <raindog>  Is there a reason why KDE would run much slower with Beryl while Gnome with Beryl barely takes a performance hit?  (note:  I have turned off the kde menu effects/shadows and such.)
[12:39] <stdin> !wiki | Sanne
[12:39] <ubotu> Sanne: wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[12:40] <unholyskorn> how do i copy files in kubuntu terminal?
[12:40] <Sanne> igorjr: here there are: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ https://help.ubuntu.com/
[12:40] <Sanne> stdin: thanks, that was mainly for igorjr ;)
[12:40] <unholyskorn> sudo copy xgl-desktop /usr/share/xsessions
[12:40] <unholyskorn> ?
[12:40] <stdin> Sanne: :P
[12:41] <eMaX> stdin: what did you do to make it listen?
[12:41] <stdin> eMaX: listen ?
[12:41] <tarnold> oi oi
[12:41] <unholyskorn> How do i copy files in terminal?!
[12:41] <eMaX> cvspserver
[12:41] <Sanne> igorjr: also the help entry on your kmenu is very helpful if you're starting out with Linux and Kubuntu.
[12:41] <stdin> eMaX: ahh, the server
[12:41] <stdin> eMaX: hmm, it should work
[12:42] <eMaX> I have cvspserver      2401/tcp and /udp in /etc/services yet that's apparently not sufficient
[12:42] <igorjr> thx, sanne
[12:42] <igorjr> can you tell me, how to set all samba settings to default?
[12:42] <Sanne> igorjr: in the server guide in there there's even a chapter about samba, maybe you want to have a look at that also.
[12:44] <tarnold> what is a good KDE music player?
[12:44] <K`zan> Anyone have an idea why this mounts, but doesn't show up when running "df":
[12:44] <stdin> tarnold: amarok
[12:44] <K`zan> xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:/nettmp    /nettmp         nfs     defaults 0      0
[12:44] <Sanne> tarnold: most people would recommend amarok. For me, it's xmms, a bit old school, but I like the simplicity.
[12:45] <Sanne> tarnold: I have to add, xmms is not kde per se, it's a gtk1 app.
[12:45] <tarnold> oh
[12:45] <tarnold> how do get the add printer option?
[12:46] <lordmaynoth_> xnp,  what wacom things do I need to remove?
[12:46] <tarnold> im looking at a book: moving to linux kiss the blue screen of death good bye- chp 8 under printers
[12:46] <stdin> lordmaynoth_: look at http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[12:46] <lordmaynoth_> thanks
[12:47] <Sanne> tarnold: in Kubuntu, I just used the printer entry in System Settings.
[12:47] <Krishean> under linux you don't get the blue screen
[12:47] <Krishean> it just locks up
[12:47] <tarnold> sanne: ok
[12:47] <stdin> eMaX: is there an entry for it in /etc/inetd.conf
[12:47] <coreymon77> Krishean: its called a kernel panic
[12:47] <stdin> ?
[12:48] <Krishean> i don't get any messages
[12:48] <tarnold> yes im aware kissing blue screen of death goodbye is the subtitle referring to moving from windows to linux
[12:48] <lordmaynoth_> if its harmless I wont even mess with it
[12:48] <WackedChild> hi dawn
[12:48] <WackedChild> :)
[12:48] <WackedChild> dawn: hello buddy
[12:48] <Krishean> the screen just displays the same image
[12:48] <dawn> hello buddy
[12:48] <Zancat> hello people
[12:49] <Krishean> whatever the last state was before it froze
[12:49] <dawn> we are getting snow
[12:49] <coreymon77> Krishean: its very hard to make that happen in linux though
[12:49] <Krishean> well i've done it twice
[12:50] <Krishean> consistently
[12:50] <coreymon77> Krishean: so have i
[12:50] <coreymon77> Krishean: but still
[12:50] <Krishean> just by typing in a text box
[12:50] <tarnold> hey gang if my printer is wireless how would i add it under the add printer options?
[12:50] <NDPTAL85> Why email client do you guys prefer? I'm trying to choose between Evolution and Thunderbird.
[12:50] <coreymon77> tarnold: very very easy
[12:50] <coreymon77> tarnold: whats the printers ip adress
[12:50] <raindog>  Is there a reason why KDE would run much slower with Beryl while Gnome with Beryl barely takes a performance hit?  (note:  I have turned off the kde menu effects/shadows and such.)
[12:50] <Krishean> the html color code box in the window colors preferences
[12:50] <NDPTAL85> Bah I meant "Which"
[12:50] <Sanne> Krishean: sometimes it can be due to bad ram, or maybe a video driver error.
[12:50] <Krishean> i try to type in a color and boom its locked up
[12:51] <WackedChild> dawn: ok I am departing\
[12:51] <WackedChild> cyas
[12:51] <coreymon77> Krishean: thats your computer's problem, not linux's
[12:51] <Krishean> i tested my ram with the memtest thing and its fine
[12:51] <Krishean> and it has the default nv driver
[12:51] <carutsu> hello
[12:51] <Krishean> it is not the computer
[12:51] <tarnold> ok
[12:51] <coreymon77> tarnold: what is the ip adress of your printer?
[12:52] <carutsu> scuse me, where can i get the multimedia codecs for Kubuntu.. i find them for ubuntu
[12:52] <dawn> ok
[12:52] <stdin> NDPTAL85: it's up to personal preference, I like TBird, others like KMail, some like Evolution.  I used the html color entry multiple times.
[12:53] <Krishean> yeah
[12:53] <coreymon77> tarnold: okay, so, go to the kde add printer wizrd
[12:53] <Krishean> i can use everything else fine
[12:53] <Krishean> but when i try the color config it does that
[12:53] <coreymon77> Krishean: do you have window shadowing on?
[12:53] <carutsu> stdin no
[12:53] <Krishean> im not shure
[12:53] <Krishean> where do i check that?
[12:53] <coreymon77> Krishean: cause that could be the problem
[12:53] <Krishean> titlebar shading?
[12:54] <Krishean> gradient
[12:54] <Krishean> w/e
[12:54] <stdin> carutsu: what do you mean "no", what are you saying no to?
[12:54] <carutsu> stdin the codecs for gnome are for totemo or something... but i use kafeine
[12:54] <coreymon77> Krishean: do you have shading enabled?
[12:54] <carutsu> stdin sorry i was typing
[12:54] <Krishean> i don't know
[12:54] <Krishean> coreymon77: how do i check?
[12:54] <stdin> carutsu: have you looked at the help page for installing codecs?
[12:54] <carutsu> stdin: yep
[12:54] <carutsu> they are for xine
[12:55] <coreymon77> tarnold: wait 2 secs and ill continue with you
[12:55] <carutsu> the strange is i can play mp3 but no mpg
[12:55] <tarnold> ok
[12:55] <tarnold> thanks
[12:56] <carutsu> stdin i use kfeine and those are for totem... :S
[12:56] <aleska> gnome user here, but currently trying out kde and really impressed so far!
[12:57] <carutsu> aleska i love KDE
[12:57] <aleska> is nautilus' replacement in kde konquerer?
[12:58] <Eagle_101> does xchat work in kubuntu?
[12:58] <bxnp> aleska: use dolphin instead of konqueror this will allso be the default filemanager in kde4
[12:58] <Admiral_Chicago> Eagle_101: ya
[12:58] <aleska> yes xchat does...I'm using it now
[12:58] <stdin> carutsu: totem can use either the xine engine, or the gstreamer one, which engine you have installed depends on what you install, but you can just use the command on the help page to grab them all
[12:58] <Eagle_101> if so how come sudo apt-get install xchat not work
[12:58] <coreymon77> tarnold: anyways
[12:58] <Eagle_101> sorry :S
[12:58] <coreymon77> tarnold: have you opened the kde add printer wizard?
[12:58] <carutsu> i have kubuntu... what does kaffeine use? Xine?
[12:59] <stdin> carutsu: "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui" should get you just about everything
[12:59] <carutsu> err
[12:59] <carutsu> ok
[12:59] <tarnold> ok so amarok doesn't play MP3's and i hit add mp3 support and adept fetched the packages and i still got teh same messages
[12:59] <Eagle_101> and xchat? by any chance something else required?
[12:59] <tarnold> coreymon77: yes ive KDE add printer wizard open
[01:00] <bxnp> aleska: have you heard about dolphin
[01:00] <stdin> tarnold: have you restarted amarok after you installed the codec?
[01:00] <coreymon77> tarnold: okay, so, choose the network printer (tcp/ip) option
[01:00] <tarnold> stdin: nope
[01:00] <stdin> tarnold: yeah, you need to do that :)
[01:00] <derek_> is there any way that you can see whats going on during boot, like f2 for other distrobutions during boot...?
[01:00] <tarnold> coreymon77: ok,   did that
[01:00] <aleska> is dolphin something I would apt-get, or should it already be installed?
[01:00] <Krishean> so how do i check for this window shading thing?
[01:00] <carutsu> stdinalthough is very weird i downloaded a library and i can play mp3 for example... and wmv but something failed when i tried to open a mpg
[01:00] <derek_> because my computer wont boot
[01:01] <tarnold> stdin: how do i restart it, it just goes to the system tray
[01:01] <stdin> tarnold: right click it (in the system tray), choose Quit
[01:01] <aleska> bxnp: I haven't heard of dolphin
[01:01] <coreymon77> tarnold: do you see the box that says "printer address:"?
[01:01] <tarnold> stdin: ok now what>
[01:01] <tarnold> coreymon77: yes
[01:01] <coreymon77> tarnold: enter your printers ip adress into that
[01:02] <stdin> tarnold: then just start it up again, and it should work
[01:02] <coreymon77> tarnold: and then press next
[01:02] <tarnold> stdin: ok
[01:02] <carutsu> stdin... when i boot my pc, it says that there are diferences betwen the sector of /dev/hda1 and its backu the point is is my windows partition i dont want it to check it anymore, how do i turn that of or at least stop it from cheking it... it takes quite some time...
[01:02] <Eagle_101> ideas on why it can't find xchat?
[01:02] <Krishean> shade sorted column in lists?
[01:02] <tarnold> coreymon77: ok adding ip address now
[01:03] <tarnold> tryign to multitask wiht printer, set up amarok and talk to grandparents
[01:03] <coreymon77> tarnold: once you press next, the select driver page will show up
[01:03] <tarnold> coreymon77:  what port?
[01:03] <coreymon77> tarnold: all you need is the ip adress
[01:04] <stdin> carutsu: if the line for that partition has something like "0 1", change it to "0 0"
[01:04] <tarnold> coreymon77: alright hitting next now then
[01:04] <bxnp> well aleska this will be the future anyway take a look at http://www.postproductie.nl/burningman/deskje1.png
[01:04] <coreymon77> tarnold: what printer is it again?
[01:04] <stdin> carutsu: (in /etc/fstab) sorry :)
[01:04] <aleska> bxnp: thx, will do...is it in repositories?
[01:04] <BluesKaj> I hope dolphin has the option to sort files by type , which it doesn't do now
[01:04] <tarnold> coreymon77: said no printer found at this IP address/printer'
[01:04] <carutsu> stdin lol, i was just wbout to ask
[01:04] <MetaBookfoziS> !print
[01:04] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:04] <tarnold> an HP photosmart 2710 all in one printer
[01:05] <coreymon77> tarnold: are you sure that in the correct ip?
[01:05] <bxnp> yes but that is an old version
[01:05] <MetaBookfoziS> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpPrinterInstallationAndMaintenanceDapperw
[01:05] <bxnp> i would download the source and compile it yourself
[01:05] <MetaBookfoziS> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpPrinterInstallationAndMaintenanceDapper
[01:05] <MetaBookfoziS> sorry
[01:05] <MetaBookfoziS> so where i found this in kubuntu
[01:05] <MetaBookfoziS> ?
[01:05] <carutsu> stdin: what will that do? ot better asked what does that mean?
[01:05] <BluesKaj> !dolphin
[01:05] <ubotu> dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 238 kB, installed size 932 kB
[01:05] <tarnold> should be...i see an IP address  under HP network configuration page under General Information
[01:05] <bxnp> yes 0.6 is the old version aleska
[01:06] <bxnp> you dont have the sidebar with 0.6
[01:06] <coreymon77> tarnold: did you check the network config page on the printer
[01:06] <carutsu> stdin it has 0 1, so i change it to 0 0?
[01:06] <stdin> carutsu: the 1st number doesn't do much, but the 2nd number decides the order that a filesystem is checked, setting it to "0" means don't check it
[01:06] <tarnold> where would that be?
[01:06] <stdin> carutsu: yeah, to 0 0
[01:07] <eMaX> stdin thanks that wasit
[01:07] <coreymon77> tarnold: does your printer have its own little lcd screen?
[01:07] <carutsu> stdin thanks i always like to know what i'm doing
[01:07] <stdin> eMaX: isn't it annoying when there isn't an init script :P
[01:07] <tarnold> yes it doess
[01:08] <stdin> carutsu: no problem :)
[01:08] <coreymon77> tarnold: okay, press the setup button on the printer
[01:08] <tarnold> ok
[01:08] <igorjr> hey, i got still problems with samba
[01:08] <tarnold> have to go over there, what am i looking for- so i don't have to make several small trips
[01:08] <igorjr> if i just share the folder, i get the "guest" login
[01:08] <igorjr> even though i haven't assigned a password
[01:09] <coreymon77> tarnold: first press the setup button
[01:09] <coreymon77> tarnold: then on the window that pops , scroll to "Network"
[01:09] <igorjr> !samba
[01:09] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:09] <aleska> LOVING yakuake BTW!
[01:09] <tarnold> ok
[01:10] <tarnold> where about for network...?
[01:10] <coreymon77> tarnold: then in the network menu
[01:10] <Eagle_101> Ok, what is wrong with this command http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9022/ < error loading xchat for some reason
[01:11] <coreymon77> tarnold: click on "View Network Settings"
[01:11] <bxnp> yes yakuake is great
[01:11] <bxnp> but aleska how long did you use gnome and why did you switch to kde
[01:11] <coreymon77> tarnold: then on the network seetings page, scroll to "view Wired Summary"
[01:11] <coreymon77> tarnold: on that page, there should be an ip address
[01:11] <unholyskorn> omg kubuntu is a piece of crap
[01:11] <Flying_Eagle> oh yea
[01:12] <stdin> Eagle_101: make sure you have the universe repository enabled
[01:12] <coreymon77> tarnold: put that ip address that is shown into the printer adress box on the kde printer wizard
[01:12] <Eagle_101> and how do you do that (I'm giving this info to an absolute newbie so a command line command would be nice)
[01:12] <aleska> bxnp: used gnome for about a year.  had no real qualms.  frankly was just curious to see how the otherside lived ;-)
[01:12] <tarnold> ok
[01:12] <carutsu> stdin: anoter issue i though i had the version 9 of flash player
[01:13] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: okay, what the hell, you come into the kubuntu irc channel just to say that kubuntu is a piece of crap
[01:13] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: thats called trolling
[01:13] <unholyskorn> yah it works like crap
[01:13] <stdin> Eagle_101: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu will tell you how
[01:13] <unholyskorn> i just installed it and already adept wont run
[01:13] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: if thats all you are here for, leave now
[01:13] <Eagle_101> stdin, thanks
[01:13] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: if you want support, ask your question politely
[01:13] <aleska> bxnp: I changed the panel layouts to resemble something I was more used to...and now I'm thinking I really like this, especially these kde apps (amarok for starters!)
[01:14] <carutsu> stdin: i can open youtube, hoever opening metacafe it says that cant be opened i tried installing the non-free but it says is for mozilla-like engines and i want to try Konqueror for a while, how can i fix this?
[01:14] <unholyskorn> adept wont run, and admin mode wont run in computer settings
[01:14] <tarnold> coreymon77:  ok well the IP on the printout summary is the same as on the lcd screen
[01:14] <bxnp> lol, i dont use the specific kde apps like amarok
[01:14] <Krishean> actually adept crashed on me once too
[01:14] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: what do you mean wont run
[01:14] <bxnp> it uses way to much resources, for just simple letting me enjoy music
[01:14] <BluesKaj> unholyskorn, if you have problem these kind ppl will help, but with your attitude they might just let you stew for a while '
[01:14] <aleska> no?  but amarok is so wonderful
[01:14] <stdin> carutsu: Konqueror will use the mozilla plugin
[01:14] <bxnp> xmms is enough for me
[01:14] <aleska> ah
[01:15] <unholyskorn> well, adept sits there with the loading icon then disapears
[01:15] <bxnp> i dont look at amarok, i listen to music
[01:15] <aleska> :)
[01:15] <unholyskorn> and the admin mode i click it and it goes to a blank screen
[01:15] <carutsu> stdin: thank you
[01:15] <bxnp> and how nice it maybe looking its not my first priority :)
[01:15] <stdin> carutsu: just make sure you have the bacports repository enabled, and install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:15] <Sanne> bxnp: ha! another one :) I also love xmms.
[01:15] <aleska> makes sense
[01:15] <cecko> Hi all, what info should I submit with a bug report if my ThinkPad's wifi does not work sometimes? in kNetworkManager it shows no networks and WlanAssistant "No useable wireless devices found"
[01:15] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: doesnt a window pop up asking you for a password?
[01:15] <bxnp> my god, Sanne are you a male of female
[01:15] <unholyskorn> nope
[01:15] <bxnp> cause in holland sanne is a female name
[01:15] <stdin> carutsu: flash9 is only in backports, it's version 7 in the normal universe repo
[01:15] <Eyeless> cecko: is your networkcard on?
[01:16] <carutsu> backports... ok
[01:16] <carutsu> stdin: backports... ok
[01:16] <slyfox> Where do I set how often Kmail should check for email ?
[01:16] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: how long have you waited for the window to pop up
[01:16] <cecko> I hope so, the HW switch does work only for BT
[01:16] <Sanne> bxnp: in Germany also (but more a nickname of the full name). And I'm in Germany, so... ;)
[01:16] <unholyskorn> minutes
[01:16] <Eyeless> cecko: the lil green wifi logo below the screen
[01:16] <cecko> Eyeless: it never lights, even when it's on
[01:16] <Eyeless> because you can turn the wificard on and off with fn+f5 or something like that
[01:17] <bxnp> kee, amnyway xmms is great however i have some strange redrawing problems when i run xmms
[01:17] <aleska> I like the fact that amarok seems to work well in transferring files to my rockboxed iPod.  Does xmms have similar capabilties?
[01:17] <stdin> carutsu: it will be a line that looks like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" in your sources list
[01:17] <Sanne> bxnp: really? For me it's quite stable.
[01:17] <bxnp> well xmms is stable
[01:18] <cecko> Eyeless: Fn+F5 does not do anything either (the right combination)
[01:18] <carutsu> stdin yep i already actived it
[01:18] <bxnp> look i will give you a screenshot what happends to my other windows when i play music with xmms
[01:18] <stdin> carutsu: just making sure :P
[01:18] <Sanne> bxnp: ok
[01:18] <Eyeless> cecko: hold on a sec ill check on my thinkpad
[01:18] <joel> I have had lagging while moving the xmms window sometimes. But that was like six years ago.
[01:18] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: and how does adept not work
[01:18] <ComputerHermit> ello Iam on the fourm and I dont see wheir to post a new thread Iam on the new post why ?
[01:19] <unholyskorn> already said why it doesnt work
[01:19] <coreymon77> unholyskorn: be a little more specific\
[01:19] <unholyskorn> it sits there with the loading icon near my cursor, and the loading adept in the taskbar
[01:19] <ubuntu__> I'm having trouble installing on a brand new external hard drive. I get the error: "the ext 3 file system creation in partition #3 of SCS13 (0,0,0) sdb failed"  Can anyone help me?
[01:19] <cecko> Eyeless: you wrote the right combo, in windows it works an lights alright, not in Kubuntu even though the wifi work 97% of time
[01:19] <unholyskorn> then dissapears
[01:19] <unholyskorn> and doesnt run, obviuosly
[01:19] <unholyskorn> obviously*
[01:19] <Eagle_101> by chance is it still in your list of processes?
[01:20] <bxnp> http://www.postproductie.nl/burningman/garba.png look sanne
[01:20] <cecko> Eyeless: I've got Z60t
[01:20] <carutsu> stdin thank you
[01:20] <Eagle_101> unholyskorn, ?
[01:20] <Sanne> bxnp: eeeek
[01:20] <stdin> carutsu: you're welcome :)
[01:20] <bxnp> yeah, you can say hat
[01:20] <bxnp> that
[01:20] <unholyskorn> what eagle?
[01:20] <Sanne> bxnp: what if you try another window decoration style?
[01:20] <bxnp> i have it allso when i use the program kaffeine
[01:20] <unholyskorn> how else can i explain it
[01:20] <Eagle_101> by chance is it still in your list of processes?
[01:20] <unholyskorn> it sits there and doesnt load
[01:21] <bxnp> dunno But i loke this decoration
[01:21] <bxnp> loke
[01:21] <carutsu> stdin: i've heard is a shame that they had to give it to us (the 9 flash plug in) however i think that is a good thing... it means they are taking seriously linux
[01:21] <bxnp> like
[01:21] <bxnp> sorry
[01:21] <Eyeless> cecko: i got a t51 i think. anayway that key was the only thing i could think of. My wifi dies sometimes but toggling it on and off with fn+f5 usally fix that
[01:21] <Sanne> bxnp: yes, sure, but just to see if it has anything to do with that specific style.
[01:21] <MetaBookfoziS> cool under kubuntu i set up 1000tiems faster a hp printer than on windows
[01:22] <unholyskorn> well im out, thanks for the help
[01:22] <unholyskorn> guess i gotta uninstall it
[01:22] <stdin> carutsu: it's a shame we had to wait so long, we had to wait from version 7 to version 9
[01:22] <Sanne> bxnp: it's a nice style, btw. Which one is it?
[01:22] <bxnp> oh i understand, well no i have it allso with other window decoration
[01:22] <Sanne> ah
[01:22] <carutsu> stdin: well that's true
[01:22] <stdin> ComputerHermit: which forum are you on?
[01:22] <Eagle_101> underdog5004, did you check your list of processes?
[01:22] <cecko> Eyeless: any idea what info|konsole output I should submit with the bug?
[01:22] <bxnp> dunno let me look
[01:22] <Sanne> ok
[01:22] <Eagle_101> gah
[01:22] <Eagle_101> unholyskorn, did you check your list of processes
[01:23] <Eyeless> cecko: id try and ask in the forums before submitting a bugrepoert
[01:23] <carutsu> stdin was a pleasure to talk to you, and thank you for your help
[01:23] <stdin> carutsu: no peoblem, that's why I'm here :)
[01:23] <cecko> Eyeless: alright, thx
[01:23] <bxnp> Sanne: its suse2 windows decoration
[01:24] <bxnp> suse2
[01:24] <Eyeless> cecko: no need, i couldnt actuly help you :P
[01:24] <mortici> brb
[01:24] <carutsu> stdin i hopw we meet again, see you later (unfortunetly university homework cant made itself
[01:24] <Sanne> bxnp: thanks, might try it :)
[01:24] <stdin> carutsu: I'm normally here, see you later
[01:24] <bxnp> kwin-style-suse2 to be exact
[01:25] <bxnp> but you live in germany Sanne
[01:25] <carutsu> stdin ;)
[01:25] <Fizzbane> How do i check to see what hd my windows is installed in so i can add it to grub?
[01:25] <popow> WHat is a good *nix replacement for MS Project? Preferably a KDE thing? Kplato seems a bit weird
[01:25] <bxnp> then its very late overthere
[01:25] <joel> bxnp: Is that graphic error driver-related?
[01:25] <ComputerHermit> lol I got it
[01:25] <Sanne> bxnp: yes, I was born here ;) And I'm a night owl.
[01:25] <ComputerHermit> Iam very tired
[01:25] <ComputerHermit> hahah
[01:26] <bxnp> hi joel to be honest i dont know, i might be, but i get it when i play music with xmms or with kaffeine
[01:26] <Sanne> bxnp: looks nice, that style, thanks for the tip
[01:26] <bxnp> what do you think it is joel
[01:26] <bxnp> Np Sanne
[01:26] <Fizzbane> is there a partition thingy on linux i can use to look at my partions?
[01:27] <joel> bxnp: Maybe you could try change resolution or, if you dare do some x configuration: Try vga or vesa driver.
[01:27] <bxnp> sanne www.postproductie.nl/burningman/firefox.png icons look at the lower part of the screen
[01:27] <bxnp> let me look at my x configuration
[01:27] <bxnp> one sec
[01:27] <userund> Fizzbane: qtparted or gparted
[01:27] <joel> bxnp: I have something similar with SLAX on some computers I sit with.
[01:27] <userund> Fizzbane: or of course fdisk
[01:27] <igorjr> fuck this
[01:28] <igorjr> i 'm so goddam angry
[01:28] <Fizzbane> how do i use them?
[01:28] <Sanne> bxnp: pretty
[01:28] <igorjr> i add a user at samba, assign a password and then he disappeas
[01:28] <nalioth> igorjr: your language will not help you, please be civil
[01:28] <igorjr> sorry
[01:28] <userund> Fizzbane: well, you have to install them if they aren't already.  fdisk is installed by default, so you can go to a terminal and type fdisk
[01:28] <Eagle_101> hey Saga-Linux :D
[01:28] <Saga-Linux> Hey
[01:28] <Fizzbane> ok
[01:28] <Eagle_101> hope these folks can help
[01:29] <joel> bxnp: I'd try xrandr first, before fiddling with xorg.conf
[01:29] <bxnp> well joel i cant change the resolution cause this is the hights resolution and dont want to do 800x600 but i could try vesa
[01:29] <Saga-Linux> I'm having trouble setting Firefox as my default browser on kubuntu
[01:29] <bxnp> does vesa do 1024x768
[01:29] <Saga-Linux> Currently it uses Konqueror - but I tried using Firefox's settings, but it doesn
[01:29] <joel> try xrandr to set it to a diffrent just for a while.
[01:29] <Fizzbane> i typed fdisk and all i got was examples
[01:30] <Saga-Linux> doesn't do anything...
[01:30] <bxnp> i am on a laptop joel
[01:30] <coreymon77> igorjr: watch the language
[01:31] <joel> bxnp: Yeah... so? Will it not work?
[01:31] <igorjr> oh well
[01:31] <userund> Fizzbane: type sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda (or sda if you have a sata drive)
[01:32] <Fizzbane> i want to check my sata drive. does it matter if its mounted?
[01:32] <userund> no
[01:32] <joel> bxnp: I dont know your computer, but I was under ipression even laptops could display other resolutions than the optimal.
[01:32] <bxnp> yes one sec
[01:33] <userund> Saga-Linux: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[01:33] <kmi> hi... I can't find anywhere, how can I change the resolution of my kubuntu console (alt-f1)?
[01:33] <Fizzbane> Ok, how do i add my windows to grub?
[01:33] <userund> !grub | Fizzbane
[01:33] <ubotu> Fizzbane: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:33] <Saga-Linux> Thanks userund
[01:34] <joel> bxnp: I dont suggest you change permanently, only to see if the corruptions occur on more than your standard res.
[01:34] <joel> :)
[01:34] <bxnp> how can i yes :) i am lookig how to change it whit xrandr
[01:35] <bxnp> never used it
[01:37] <mortici> wth how come normal users can't acces my windows partition :/
[01:37] <posingaspopular> permissions
[01:37] <intelikey> umask=
[01:37] <coreymon77> mortici: ntfs right?
[01:37] <mortici> should i set the options to users,ro and not defaults
[01:37] <mortici> coreymon77: yes
[01:37] <coreymon77> mortici: well, there you go
[01:38] <mortici> ok :P
[01:38] <mortici> lol
[01:38] <intelikey> no permissions on M$ fs's
[01:38] <Fizzbane> how do i save the menu.lst?
[01:38] <mortici> intelikey: ???
[01:38] <coreymon77> mortici: my suggestion is to chop off a bit of space from your laregest hard drive
[01:38] <coreymon77> and format it as fat32
[01:38] <coreymon77> thats what i did
[01:39] <mortici> nah i got the drive split in two
[01:39] <coreymon77> i use it as a shared os storage drive
[01:39] <mortici> 320gb's for the win :D
[01:39] <igorjr> mortici: can you help me please
[01:39] <bxnp> oke joel
[01:39] <bxnp> i am at 800x600 no lets open xmms to see if it happends again
[01:39] <igorjr> mortici: i just don't get it
[01:39] <joel> bxnp: yay, good luck :)
[01:39] <intelikey> umask=022
[01:40] <bxnp> yes i have it again
[01:40] <joel> doh
[01:40] <Fizzbane> 500gb external FTW
[01:40] <igorjr> mortici: in the share modus i'm able to browse the shared folders, but i can't access them, i get a guest-login window
[01:40] <mortici> igorjr: whats the issue?
[01:41] <igorjr> mortici: i can't add users though, cause the get deleted again
[01:41] <joel> bxnp: Well, I'd try vesa to rule out the possibility anyway. But do take a backup on the config file if you do attempt it.
[01:42] <Fizzbane> how do i add grub and dont send me those links again cuz i have read them and they dont help. so far i have "title windows, root (sda1)" what else do i have to type in?
[01:42] <joel> bxnp: This weekend, I didnt >_<
[01:42] <mortici> igorjr: i just used the right click method on a folder
[01:42] <mortici> then made it a windows share
[01:42] <bxnp> no problem i have allways a live cd, besides that when i edited a file with vi it does the backup file automaticly
[01:42] <mortici> i didn't use a password/username
[01:43] <bxnp> atleast in my configuration
[01:43] <intelikey> Fizzbane chainloader+1 boot
[01:43] <Fizzbane> all one line?
[01:44] <intelikey> 2 lines
[01:44] <Fizzbane> type it out as you would in the terminal
[01:44] <Fizzbane> cuz i am not following
[01:44] <joel> bxnp: Hehe, yeah. Well suffice to say, I did many incremental changes. (automatic backup is only so good.)
[01:44] <dell190> i have a problem with Kubuntu looking for a file Resolv.conf, and when i try to put it in the directory is says that access is denied, anyone know how to get around this ??
[01:44] <intelikey> chainloader+1
[01:44] <intelikey> boot
[01:45] <intelikey> duh
[01:45] <joel> In the end, I discovered it was other bugs. Yeeehhcs! took me four hours.
[01:45] <bxnp> change the permissions of that file dell190
[01:45] <Fizzbane> im new at linux, i have done alot of work in DOS though, but thank you
[01:45] <dell190> when i try to.. it also says Denied...
[01:46] <igorjr> mortici: doesn't work for me
[01:46] <bxnp> oke let me test it joel maybe you could help dell190 with a little permission problem
[01:46] <Fizzbane> How do i save the menu.lst for grub now?
[01:46] <bxnp> while i do a reboot into my new vesa driver
[01:46] <joel> dell190: try:  -->      ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[01:46] <intelikey> dell190 don't change the permissions.   use sudo to write it.
[01:47] <dell190> ok i am new to this, so i really dunno what yall are talkin bout
[01:47] <intelikey> joel /etc/* should not be world writable.
[01:47] <intelikey> !sudo | dell190
[01:47] <ubotu> dell190: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:47] <intelikey> !kdesu | dell190
[01:47] <ubotu> dell190: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[01:48] <NixHex> hey, has anyone experienced a 64bit kernel being installed onto a 32bit OS, or vice versa? cause I just experienced that last night--today
[01:48] <intelikey> NixHex 32bit in a k8 box is common.
[01:48] <joel> dell190: What are you trying to do? Put the file in what directory?
[01:49] <Fizzbane> How do i save the menu for grub that i just edited in terminal?
[01:49] <NixHex> intelikey: no, I installed 32bit edgy, when I updated everything, the kernel ended up as the 64bit kernel
[01:49] <dell190> ECT directory... the KPPP said it needs it
[01:49] <intelikey> Fizzbane if you didn't edit as root you save it to your home dir and sudo cp it over then chown it to root
[01:50] <Fizzbane> i edited as root
[01:50] <intelikey> then just save it.
[01:50] <Fizzbane> HOW?
[01:50] <intelikey> what editor ?
[01:50] <joel> dell190: name servers can be added via kde control center (at least my version)
[01:50] <Fizzbane> the konsole terminal
[01:50] <joel> oops... sorry.
[01:50] <joel> forgot to scroll down.
[01:50] <intelikey> konsoe is not an editor
[01:51] <intelikey> konsole even
[01:51] <Fizzbane> ....i typed stuff in it......
[01:51] <intelikey> Fizzbane what did you type in ?
[01:51] <intelikey> if i don't know what editor you are using i can't tell you how to use it can i
[01:51] <Fizzbane> im in the konsole
[01:52] <igorjr> mortici: it worked now, my bad....
[01:52] <igorjr> we'll, i fought against my own stupidity
[01:52] <igorjr> well..
[01:52] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: What did you type?
[01:52] <Fizzbane> i typed in title windows, root (sda1), chainloader+1,boot
[01:52] <intelikey> ok this is going no where. Fizzbane when you graduate primary grammer  we'll talk.
[01:52] <userund> Konsole is only a program to access a shell.  You have to use a command-line editor like nano or vim to EDIT files from the Konsole
[01:53] <igorjr> is windows xp able to handel ext3 ?
[01:53] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: Are you trying to change a grub entry or fix a resolv.conf problem?
[01:53] <igorjr> handle..
[01:53] <intelikey> Fizzbane if you put those strings in a konsole  you have done nothing.
[01:53] <jhutchins> igorjr: Not natively, no.
[01:53] <Fizzbane> i typed in sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst to access the menu. I am trying to edit Grub to include my windows installation.
[01:53] <jhutchins> igorjr: There are ext3 drivers available.  Use at your own risk.
[01:53] <intelikey> except seen some interesting  bash: error messages.
[01:53] <igorjr> jhutchins: thank you
[01:54] <intelikey> Fizzbane ok  nano
[01:54] <jhutchins> Fizzbane: You are using the nano editor.
[01:54] <userund> Then you used nano.  Ctrl+X saves with nano.  It's at the bottom of the screen.....
[01:54] <Admiral_Chicago> ctrl + 0 does
[01:54] <Fizzbane> it says control+x is exit
[01:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Ctrl + X exits, asks to sawe if there have been edits
[01:54] <intelikey> Fizzbane at the bottom of the nano screen there is a command key....   the  ^ means hold the [ctrl]  key down and press....
[01:54] <jhutchins> igorjr: Using fat32/vfat is the most common way to share partitions between Windows & Linux.
[01:54] <userund> well, if you've made changes it asks to edit.  how I always use it
[01:54] <Fizzbane> i know that intel
[01:54] <joel> okay, here's how to do it from a console providing you dont have it yet: su -c 'echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" >> /etc/resolv.conf'
[01:55] <Fizzbane> so Ctrl+O saves?
[01:55] <intelikey> Fizzbane and just above that there is an information line that will ask you questions as you give commands.
[01:55] <joel> dell190: of course you need to change the ip adress to your nameserver.
[01:55] <joel> :)
[01:55] <intelikey> Fizzbane yes.
[01:55] <Fizzbane> ok
[01:56] <Fizzbane> The terminal came up with the file name and i clicked enter to save. It says wrote 153 lines. Did i do everything correctly?
[01:57] <joel> dell190: ...in the previous example (forgot to tag it with your name)
[01:57] <userund> Fizzbane: well, if you didn't, I hope you made a backup
[01:57] <intelikey> how should we know ?  you're the one looking at it.
[01:57] <Fizzbane> im also the new linux user
[01:58] <Fizzbane> I guess ill test it and see if it worked.
[01:58] <dell190> isn't possible to drag and drop it in that folder??
[01:58] <intelikey> it wrote what is in the buffer all 153 lines to the file listed in the information line
[01:58] <Sanne> Fizzbane: you can paste your menu.lst to the pastebin so we can have a look first, if you want. Paste it to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:59] <Fizzbane> how do i paste in that?
[01:59] <igorjr> jhutchins: yeah, i prepared it that way, i was just wondering, whether i was able to use the linux-partitions too
[01:59] <userund> !pastebin | Fizzbane
[01:59] <ubotu> Fizzbane: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:59] <Sanne> Fizzbane: you can open it in a graphical editor with the command: kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:00] <Fizzbane> ok...
[02:00] <Sanne> Fizzbane: then just copy the text and paste it to the website.
[02:01] <intelikey> igorjr there is a e2fsexplorer.exe for M$ that can read from ext# fs's as long as they are in normal partitions.   but it's kinda like linux writing to ntfs.   should be used readonly or with extreem caution.
[02:01] <Fizzbane> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9030/ there it is
[02:03] <Sanne> Fizzbane: the only thing you edited is the last entry for windows?
[02:03] <Fizzbane> and the hiddenmenu
[02:03] <joel> dell190: No, it should not be unless you are running as root via "kdesu"
[02:03] <intelikey> (sda1) <<< unless that is in /boot/grub/devices  i don't think that will work.
[02:03] <igorjr> intelikey: thx
[02:04] <dell190> ok i will try the thing you gave me  BRB
[02:04] <Fizzbane> how do i add it to the /boot/grub/devices?
[02:04] <bxnp> joel: well it did not change anything
[02:04] <intelikey> should be something like (hd1,0)
[02:04] <bxnp> anyway, i learned already to live with it
[02:04] <Fizzbane> (sda1) is the hd that my windows is on
[02:04] <bxnp> maybe when i do a new installation of kubuntu it will go away
[02:04] <Fizzbane> (hd0) is where linux is
[02:04] <igorjr> even though linux tends to make me crazy, i like the attitude of you guys
[02:04] <intelikey> yes but grub doesn't use real addressing.
[02:05] <Sanne> Fizzbane: I can paste you the lines I used when I had Windows 98, maybe you can adapt it to your situation.
[02:05] <bxnp> cause this is kubuntu edgy from breezy
[02:05] <bxnp> so maybe there went something wrong in the proces joel
[02:05] <Fizzbane> (hd0,0) is linux sorry
[02:05] <intelikey> so look in /boot/grub/devices   and see if there is a listing for (hd1,0)
[02:05] <Sanne> Fizzbane: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9031/
[02:05] <joel> bxnp: Ah, yeah. There's hope. :)
[02:05] <Fizzbane> Sanne: my linux and windows are on different hds
[02:06] <intelikey> yes.  so look and see
[02:06] <Fizzbane> how do i open /boot/grub/devices?
[02:06] <Sanne> Fizzbane: still, there are differences I don't know if they are important. And sda is not what grub uses, listen to intelikey :)
[02:06] <joel> uh, wait a minute now. Does kubuntu not set a root password by default?
[02:06] <saw2434> Hey, I just bought an external Hard Drive that I want to install kubuntu on.  It's is preformatted as a FAT32 system which I believe Ubuntu can't be installed on.  Can I convert it to NTFS when I install kubuntu or do I need to do it in Windows?
[02:06] <intelikey> Fizzbane cat /boot/grub/devices  in the konsole
[02:07] <shahid> hi does anyone know if there is a Mepis channel?
[02:07] <intelikey> joel no
[02:07] <intelikey> !root | joel
[02:07] <ubotu> joel: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:07] <joel> crap, I just used su to help dell190.
[02:07] <jhutchins> saw2434: First, you actually can install linux on fat32, but it's not usually a good idea.  Second, installing it on NTFS would require quite a bit of custom work.
[02:08] <Fizzbane> I keep getting "file not found"
[02:08] <intelikey> Fizzbane is there a listing in the devices*     add *
[02:08] <saw2434> jhutchins: So what kind of custom work?
[02:08] <jhutchins> saw2434: The preferred filesystem for k/ubuntu is a unix filesystem known as ext3.
[02:08] <saw2434> ok
[02:08] <intelikey> seems like it is  devices.list  or some such...
[02:09] <jhutchins> saw2434: You'd have to set up the installer's kernel to have write access to NTFS filesystems, among other things.
[02:09] <charlie5> hi folks ... just updated kubu and my external usb drives are no longer being mounted ... would this be a general prob, or a problem local to my setup ?
[02:09] <Fizzbane> oh now you tell me
[02:09] <saw2434> jhutchins: So should I be able to use Gparted to just format it to ext3?
[02:09] <intelikey> grub is too weak to boot my system so i can't look and see...
[02:09] <intelikey> it's all from memory.
[02:09] <jhutchins> saw2434: I think that's what the installer uses.
[02:09] <Fizzbane> nice memory
[02:10] <intelikey> you'll get old some day.
[02:10] <jhutchins> saw2434: Could use cfdisk or fdisk.
[02:10] <Fizzbane> haha not for along time
[02:10] <jhutchins> saw2434: and mkfs.
[02:10] <Fizzbane> for a long time*
[02:10] <intelikey> sooner than you think
[02:10] <Fizzbane> I'm 14
[02:10] <intelikey> sooner than you think
[02:10] <jhutchins> intelikey: lilo?
[02:10] <intelikey> jhutchins yeah
[02:10] <saw2434> jhutchins: yeah, however when I first tryed doing it (with a brand new preformatted in Fat32 HD) I got an error saying the ext3 file system creation in partition 3 of SCS13 ... failed.
[02:11] <Fizzbane> I just want to boot windows!
[02:11] <saw2434> jhutchins: are those linux programs?
[02:11] <VanessaE> anyone over here know much about using X in 8bpp mode?
[02:11] <Sanne> Fizzbane: I would just try my entries, according to the grub manual you need the three lines: 1. rootnoverify (your_hd) 2. makeactive 3. chainloader +1
[02:11] <intelikey> so is there a listing for the disk ?
[02:11] <jhutchins> saw2434: Yes.  The DOS fdisk won't work with non-MS filesystem types.
[02:11] <Fizzbane> cat /boot/grub/devices does not work
[02:12] <jhutchins> saw2434: If I were doing it manually, I would use fdisk to change the partition type, then I would use mkfs to "format" it.
[02:12] <intelikey> VanessaE !i  but i have used that  256 colour.
[02:12] <jhutchins> saw2434: I would also make it all one partition, but that's just my preference.
[02:12] <saw2434> jhutchins: alright... so I do those in windows?
[02:12] <VanessaE> is it normal to only get what looks like 7bpp (128ish colors) with a StaticColor visual?
[02:12] <jhutchins> saw2434: You'll either need a boot disk or you'll need to install a bootloader on your default boot drive.
[02:12] <Fizzbane> I'll be back in a bit. I need some supper.
[02:12] <saw2434> jhutchins: ok
[02:12] <jhutchins> saw2434: I would boot the the Live CD.
[02:13] <saw2434> jhutchins: so they're linux then
[02:13] <jhutchins> yes.
[02:13] <jhutchins> (There aer a few BIOSes that allow you to pick your boot device, that's another possibility.)
[02:13] <saw2434> jhutchins: So when I boot from the live CD, how would I use Fdisk?
[02:13] <intelikey> VanessaE yes it is.  looks pretty krappy.
[02:14] <VanessaE> shit.
[02:14] <VanessaE> how do I fix it?
[02:14] <intelikey> at least when i used it...       go to 15 bit mode  :)
[02:14] <VanessaE> can't
[02:14] <intelikey> then i don't know.
[02:14] <VanessaE> running wine to run an 8bpp app :)
[02:15] <intelikey> and it wont run in an 15bit env ?
[02:15] <b-rad> good evening everyone :)  has anyone found a solution for no audio for an intel HD audio chipset?  I've tried everything in the forums to no avail....
[02:15] <jhutchins> saw2434: you open a console, sudo fdisk /dev/XXX, where XXX is the device you want.
[02:15] <VanessaE> haven't tried 15 bpp yet
[02:16] <saw2434> jhutchins: so I think mine was sdb
[02:16] <jhutchins> saw2434: Most likely the USB drive will be /dev/sda as long as you don't have SCSI or SATA drives.
[02:16] <intelikey> i'd try it.   15 is pretty flexable   works where 16 wont.
[02:16] <saw2434> jhutchins: My computers (win xp) hard drive was sda
[02:17] <jhutchins> saw2434: Then it'll be the next one, /dev/sdb.
[02:17] <VanessaE> nope, no good
[02:17] <VanessaE> it explicitly wants 8bpp
[02:17] <saw2434> jhutchins: ok, so I boot of the kubuntu live cd, and then open a console and type "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"?
[02:17] <intelikey> then use 8 and hope for someone that knows....
[02:17] <intelikey> ;/
[02:17] <VanessaE> heh
[02:18] <VanessaE> well thanks just the same :)
[02:18] <jhutchins> saw2434: fdisk -l will show you the current drives and partitions.
[02:18] <intelikey> np
[02:18] <intelikey> sudo fdisk -l
[02:18] <jhutchins> saw2434: You might try sudo cfdisk, fdisk is a bit opaque.
[02:18] <intelikey> as user sometimes shows nothing.
[02:18] <jhutchins> saw2434: cfdisk has menus.
[02:18] <saw2434> jhutchins: ok
[02:18] <jhutchins> intelikey: I presume fdisk and cfdisk are both available on the CD?
[02:19] <intelikey> yes should be.
[02:19] <intelikey> were as of dapper
[02:19] <compilerwriter> Is it possible to specify that you will allow any host on a network to use a given box for an x session?  IE 192.168.0.*
[02:19] <compilerwriter> brb
[02:19] <jhutchins> gtg
[02:19] <VanessaE> I'd keep googling for this (been at it for hours now) but I'm running out of ideas for search terms that might give me something other than source code snippets :)
[02:20] <bxnp> tcpwrappers compilerwriter
[02:20] <saw2434> jhutchins: thanks for your help
[02:20] <pete> adept crashed on me - now when i try to bring it back up it says something else is using the processes.....   how can i get it working again?
[02:20] <intelikey> compilerwriter i think ranges.  [0-255]     but i'm network illiterate
[02:20] <stdin> !aptfix | pete
[02:20] <ubotu> pete: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:21] <ODC> Hey there, I'm a *nix newbie and am installing Kubuntu for the first time, can someone help me?
[02:21] <userund> !ask | ODC
[02:21] <ubotu> ODC: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:21] <compilerwriter> intelikey: Can a person get away with specifying it in the kdmrc as I have proposed?
[02:21] <bxnp> compilerwriter: http://www.clug.org/presentations/security/tcpwrappers.html
[02:21] <ODC> okay, I burned the iso, put it in the cd tray, it loaded the Kubuntu menu and I selected "Start or Install..."
[02:22] <ODC> it went to a progress bar for a bit, but not its just a black screen with a white blinking cursor
[02:22] <ODC> is it still installing?
[02:22] <shahid> Does anyone know of a SimplyMepis Help Channel like this one?? Whether one exists/?
[02:22] <compilerwriter> I should also say I am doing it via xdmcp I guess.
[02:22] <stdin> shahid: tried #simplymepis   ?
[02:22] <compilerwriter> brb
[02:22] <intelikey> ODC never has started installing anything.   the graphic user interface on the liveCD has failed you.
[02:22] <shahid> nope didnt try that thanks will now
[02:23] <ODC> oh... so what do I do?  Try again?
[02:23] <intelikey> !alternate | ODC
[02:23] <ubotu> ODC: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[02:23] <Thehound666> Hello. I am getting upset with my isp dropping my connections less than 1 second several times a day and having to type commands to reconnect all my ssh sessions. Any way to automate reconnects?
[02:23] <shahid> stdin nobody in there :(
[02:23] <stdin> ODC: you could try loading in Safe Graphics mode, an option on that menu you saw at boot
[02:23] <napsterman> hi. i dont know whats wrong but i cant for the life of me understand how to run kismet at all ive used adept to install it. if i cant get it too work i might go back to xp-pro if i cant get this resolved. can some please tell me what im doing wrong?
[02:24] <ODC> okay, I think it was the liveCD, yeah okay I"ll try the safe graphics mode
[02:24] <ODC> running to other room to try brb
[02:24] <pete> ubotu thanks
[02:24] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:24] <intelikey> that "For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD. "  <<< is so lame.
[02:24] <pete> lmao
[02:25] <stdin> shahid: maybe ask in the main mepis room, #mepis
[02:25] <intelikey> but why not it !worksforme so you should all use it.
[02:25] <joel> dell190: How's it going?
[02:25] <shahid> awesome thanks
[02:25] <Thehound666> my hand is starting to fall off at typing ssh blah blah blah on every disconnect
[02:25] <pete> ok, im trying the latest 'alpha' install disk, and adept brings up this window that says debconf, asking me to insert an integer between -20 and 19.... what gives?
[02:25] <shahid> stdon how do i add mepis channel or any other channel for that matter to favourite channels?
[02:26] <shahid> stdin* woops
[02:26] <stdin> shahid: in what client ?
[02:26] <ODC> okay, I selected the safe graphics mode option, its sitting at the blue bar bouncing back and forth
[02:26] <shahid> konversation
[02:26] <intelikey> ODC how much ram ?
 konversation
[02:26] <joel> dell190: I need to get to bed. And I forgot that kubuntu does not use 'su' but 'sudo'
[02:27] <ODC> interlikey: 1 GB
[02:27] <joel> dell190: revised command for sudo: sudo sh -c "echo nameserver xx.xx.xxx.xx >> /etc/resolv.conf"
[02:27] <Thehound666> actually the hack for that is give root a password and do sudo su root
[02:27] <intelikey> well that's not the problem.
[02:27] <joel> replace xxxx with correct numbers, and use your password for auth.
[02:27] <stdin> shahid: File -> Server List -> (Choose the server) Edit -> Auto join channels, Add
[02:27] <ODC> okay follow up, I'm going to be installing WoW, I got the directions to install it in Ubuntu and it says to use WINE.  Does it come installed or is Kubuntu a similar thing?
[02:27] <shahid> ahh thank u
[02:28] <intelikey> ODC i still say get the alternate.   use the text mode installer.
[02:28] <stdin> joel, dell190: easier to just to "echo nameserver xx.xx.xxx.xx | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf"
[02:28] <ODC> okay, so install Kubuntu and then WINE?
[02:28] <intelikey> ODC wine is not installed by default.  but is avalable.
[02:29] <ODC> gotcha, thanks
[02:29] <pete> ODC- that should work but be warned - a lot of people have been banned doing what you are trying to do
[02:29] <joel> stdin: Is it? :)
[02:29] <Fizzbane> How can i open up grubs devices?
[02:29] <intelikey> pete ?
[02:29] <pete> yes?
[02:29] <stdin> joel: yeah, rather than sudo -c "echo this and that >> some place"
[02:29] <intelikey> banned for trying to install ?
[02:30] <ODC> wtf okay it just failed in safe graphics mode
[02:30] <ODC> what now?
[02:30] <pete> you know, i might have not known what you were talking about, I assume WoW is World of Warcraft
[02:30] <stdin> joel: plus you'll have yo escape charactors if you want to add other ones to a file, like a >, # or "
[02:30] <intelikey> use the alternate install CD.....
[02:31] <Thehound666> is my question in some FAQ somewhere or something? is that why no replies?
[02:31] <napsterman> oh and btw im runing kubuntu on a dell inspiron 1200 with 30gb hd and 1gb ram. so far i like linux the bat life is longer and lots of diff programs to run . but im new to linux.
[02:31] <intelikey> pete probably.   but why would anyone be banned for trying to install/run that ?
[02:31] <pete> if it is, the blizzard servers think that their game running through wine violates user agreements and ban the users......... but sorry if you were talking about something else
[02:31] <joel> stdin: I dont really see any difference, you cant do echo >>
[02:31] <Thehound666> many MMO ban you for any sort of mod
[02:32] <ODC> yeah I am talking about WoW
[02:32] <joel> stdin: err.. well okay, it work.
[02:32] <intelikey> oh.  a server ban.   i thought you meant an irc ban   ha ha at me.
[02:32] <slyfox> does kopete file transfer work in msn ?  :P
[02:34] <Sanne> Thehound666: I guess nobody knows the answer to your question. Usually the nice people here answer, even if it is in an faq :)
[02:34] <soda> w
[02:34] <intelikey> Fizzbane sets the partition active   aka bootable.
[02:34] <joel> stdin: sudo sh -c "echo '>_< ^_^ ' "
[02:34] <joel> stdin: no escape characters yet :)
[02:34] <stdin> joel: yeah, but you used a ', that's cheating :P
[02:34] <Fizzbane> so i want to add that to the windows selection i just set up?
[02:35] <intelikey> can't hurt anything.
[02:35] <Fizzbane> ok thank you
[02:35] <stdin> joel: tee is just nicer, as you don't need to run 3 shells
[02:35] <Fizzbane> and i checked the devices and my sda1 was hd1
[02:35] <joel> stdin: haha :) well... it's always nice to have different ways of doing the same thing. And with bash and c.o. there's 1000+ ways.
[02:36] <ODC> pete: I had read that one, but it seems like it was probably the keyboard
[02:36] <ODC> not WINE
[02:36] <Hirvinen> Thehound666: For passwordless login: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AdvancedOpenSSH#head-f06532af79917a251e68c7ccf567cb5c399e0aba
[02:36] <ODC> but thats not confirmed of course
[02:36] <intelikey> i don't know for sure about grub  but lilo also supplies boot-as=0x80    # means make it c:
[02:36] <Thehound666> password isn't the issue
[02:36] <Thehound666> I just want it to reconnect upon disconnecting
[02:36] <Thehound666> instead of me having to type commands in 10 windows
[02:37] <Fizzbane> Well thank you intellikey. I am going to go see if i can boot windows now.
[02:37] <pete> odc yeah i just read through it and that seems to be the case...  good luck man
[02:37] <ODC> pete: thanks for the concern though, I appreciate the heads up
[02:39] <intelikey> Fizzbane bet ya half of nothing it don't.  the error will be that (sda1) is invalid entry.
[02:39] <Hirvinen> Thehound666: Instead of "ssh <target>" use "while true; do ssh <target>; sleep 5; done"
[02:40] <Fizzbane> I changed the sda1 to hd1. Grub devices said sda1 is hd1
[02:40] <intelikey> or until false ;do blah ;done
[02:40] <Thehound666> I am sorry I fail to understand
[02:40] <Sanne> Fizzbane: you need hd1,<partition_number>
[02:40] <Thehound666> normally I must retype ssh -D port username@host
[02:40] <intelikey> Fizzbane k it should work then.
[02:40] <Thehound666> then password
[02:40] <Fizzbane> hd1 and partition #?
[02:41] <Hirvinen> Thehound666: Then you just type while true; do ssh -D port username@host; sleep 5; done
[02:41] <Sanne> Fizzbane: look again at my sample, please, and adapt to your situation: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9031/
[02:41] <intelikey> yes unless you want to pass the boot process off to sda and let the boot loader on that disk take over
[02:41] <Thehound666> I just add that to the command when I login?
[02:41] <intelikey> either will work
[02:42] <ODC> okay, while I was downloading the alternate I ran the CD check, its coming up with a bunch of these errors towards the end:
[02:42] <intelikey> Thehound666 what he is sujesting is to loop the ssh command.  so as soon as it closes it will respawn.
[02:42] <Fizzbane> Im not sure if there is a boot loader on the other hd. and if there is it might not have the windows on it.
[02:43] <ODC> Buffer I/O error on device hdd
[02:43] <intelikey> ah a bad burn.
[02:43] <intelikey> you made a coster
[02:43] <compilerwriter> Alrighty then.  I guess my question should have been can a person specify any port on a given network in the /etc/kde3/kdm/Xaccess file like 192.168.0.* ?  Or is that some risky stuff?
[02:44] <intelikey> ODC one tidbit of advice on installation iso  burn slowly.
[02:44] <Fizzbane> The first partition on a hd would be (hd1,0) right?
[02:44] <Hirvinen> Thehound666: Or use "until [[ $failed != 0 ] ]  ; do <ssh command>; failed=$?; done
[02:44] <ODC> intelikey: Thanks will do that
[02:44] <intelikey> correct Fizzbane
[02:44] <Sanne> Fizzbane: yes, think so
[02:44] <Fizzbane> thank you
[02:45] <compilerwriter> intelikey: ODC:  That is the truth I had trouble with disks I burned until I finally burned them at something like 8x.
[02:45] <Thehound666> can anyone pastebin me the exact way to do it say with port 1111 name anyone host <IP_ADDRESS> as an example if it's not too much trouble?
[02:45] <Thehound666> I am poor learner
[02:45] <Fizzbane> I am off to try out grub now. wish me luck.
[02:45] <ArthurB> Hi everyone
[02:45] <Hirvinen> Thehound666: Just replace <ssh command> with the command you use now.
[02:45] <ArthurB> after some upgrades to feisty
[02:45] <Sanne> Fizzbane: good luck :)
[02:45] <ArthurB> I find that my lvm won't work anymore
[02:45] <Fizzbane> thanks. bye
[02:45] <compilerwriter> Break a leg Fizzbane
[02:45] <ArthurB> if I boot from a livecd, all is fine, I can mount my lvm partitions in /dev/mapper
[02:46] <intelikey> until false ;do ssh anyone@<IP_ADDRESS>:1111 ;sleep 3 ;done
[02:46] <ArthurB> but the boot from grub goes fine
[02:46] <ArthurB> until it says it can't find /dev/mapper
[02:46] <intelikey> Thehound666 ^
[02:46] <ODC> okay reburning at 20x now, less than half the speed as before
[02:46] <ArthurB> anyone knows about that issue ?
[02:47] <intelikey> 8x might even be good.
[02:47] <compilerwriter> ODC Highly suggest you have more patience than that.
[02:47] <ODC> okay well I'll try this cd since its already burning, if that doesn't work i'll do it even slower
[02:47] <compilerwriter> ODC intelikey types correctly.
[02:47] <ArthurB> I think mdamd messed things up
[02:48] <intelikey> raid... yuch.
[02:50] <compilerwriter> No biters on my Xaccess question?  I guess I shall just have to try it.
[02:50] <intelikey> ArthurB cant find /dev/mapper  isn't a grub error.   initramfs.img maybe.
[02:50] <ODC> okay trying the 20x burn wish me luck
[02:50] <ArthurB> intelikey: looks like it from google
[02:50] <intelikey> tre bon chance
[02:50] <ArthurB> ok
[02:51] <compilerwriter> !fr | intelikey
[02:51] <ubotu> intelikey: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:51] <ArthurB> I tried update-initramfs -u
[02:51] <ArthurB> and I get mdadm errors
[02:51] <ArthurB> I mean warnings
[02:51] <ArthurB> W: mdadm: unchecked configuration file: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[02:51] <ArthurB> and so on
[02:51] <bitmaker> i need un tutorial to create dc++ server with ubuntu
[02:51] <bitmaker> plas hlp me
[02:53] <ODC> yeah, that 20x didn't even boot
[02:53] <hazard_> bitmaker, find some manual about the server software, and read it.
[02:53] <ODC> 4x okay?
[02:53] <aleska> could anyone tell me how, in konquerer, when browsing files to make a single left-click only select a file and not actually "launch" it?
[02:54] <Thehound666> I tried it in Konsole and it opened up a session
[02:54] <Thehound666> now it will reconnect when my isp has pms?
[02:55] <Sanne> aleska: It's somewhere in System settings or KDE Control Center, I'll find it for you, sec.
[02:55] <intelikey> ArthurB it's fstab/mount addressing.    /dev/mapper/* is the addressing for the / (root fs)  but in the initramfs.img there is no /dev/mapper/  so you need to either change the boot options to address the correct device or build an initramfs.img that includse /dev/mapper/* listings for the file system.
[02:55] <stdin> aleska: Kmenu .> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse -> "Double-click to open files and folders"
[02:55] <stdin> Sanne: found it
[02:55] <Sanne> aleska: listen to stdin (thanks) :)
[02:55] <intelikey> and mdadm is probably the root cause of the issue. yes.
[02:56] <aleska> many thanks!
[02:56] <Sanne> aleska: you're welcome
[02:56] <ODC> okay burning at 4x
[02:57] <aleska> well that was easy enough
[02:57] <intelikey> might want to md5 that iso also ODC ...  8*|
[02:58] <Sanne> aleska: :)
[02:58] <ODC> I don't see that option
[02:59] <ArthurB> intelikey:  do I *need* mdamd for lvm?
[03:00] <intelikey> not unless you raid something or do append mounting.  as per order of questions
[03:00] <intelikey> ArthurB is that sata drive ?
[03:01] <aleska> I don't know if this is normal/expected, but I've noticed that my keyboards volumes control doesn't really work in kubuntu, but does under gnome.  Shows volume toggling between 0% and 10% only, yet sound doesn't actually change.  :-/
[03:01] <aleska> anyone experienced this?
[03:01] <ArthurB> intelikey: no
[03:02] <ArthurB> intelikey: but whem I apt-get removed mdadm it remove lvm-common and lvm2 as well
[03:02] <ArthurB> that's why I'm asking...
[03:02] <ArthurB> also in /etc/fstab I have strange line with UUID=....
[03:02] <intelikey> ArthurB this is not the "best" answer but it's a simular problem + work around. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=409595
[03:03] <Sanne> ODC: md5sum is a unique checksum calculated for a file. There's an md5sum file in the ftp directory where you downloaded the iso. youwould then do: 'md5sum your_iso_file' to calculate the md5sum of your downloaded file and compare it with the corresponding entry in the md5sum file from the ftp directory. If it doesn't match, the iso is borked.
[03:04] <ODC> Sanne: Ah thank you
[03:05] <Sanne> ODC: np ;)
[03:05] <intelikey> ok i'm out again.  see yous guys laters.
[03:06] <Sanne> bye intelikey
[03:10] <ODC> Sanne: How do I get the md5sum from windows?
[03:10] <ODC> I have the one for the file before I burn
[03:10] <ODC> just need a way to get it from the cd
[03:11] <Sanne> ODC: oops. I guess you would need to look for a md5sum calculator for windows.
[03:11] <doppelganger_> hi guys..  doesn't anyone here have vmware workstation installed as host
[03:11] <Sanne> ODC: oh, from the cd?
[03:11] <Flying_Eagle> dont the ubuntu-cds include a self-sanity-check you can choose when you boot em?
[03:11] <doppelganger_> i need one file..  or just a pastebin on one config file, that's it
[03:12] <ODC> Sanne: Correct, I'm burning it to CD, its almost done, I just need to get the MD5 of it and all I have is Windows
[03:12] <Flying_Eagle> ODC, im quite sure, there is this sanity-check
[03:12] <ODC> Flying_Eagle: Yes, but it takes quite a while and the first time I did it it took until the very end
[03:12] <Sanne> ODC: there are md5sum files on the cd, but I guess that's what's the self test is for, it checks itself. So if you do the self check from the boot menu of the cd (if it boots), it will then test.
[03:13] <ODC> sanne: k
[03:13] <Sanne> ODC: if you want to check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded in Windows, you need a windows md5sum calculator.
[03:14] <Flying_Eagle> ... it took till the end. i should have bet on that...
[03:14] <ODC> k
[03:14] <ODC> Flying_Eagle: Murphy's Law
[03:14] <Flying_Eagle> :P
[03:15] <Sanne> ODC: seems there are some: http://www.google.com/search?btnG=Google+Search&q=md5sum+windows
[03:15] <stdin> !md5sum
[03:15] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[03:15] <stdin> ^^ includes windows instructions
[03:16] <Sanne> I'm *always* forgetting the bot! thanks stdin.
[03:16] <stdin> :)
[03:18] <|Daisuke_Ido|> !iso
[03:18] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:18] <Flying_Eagle> why are metallica making such good metal?
[03:18] <ODC> alright, this one actually booted, i'm running the cd checker now
[03:18] <|Daisuke_Ido|> offtopic, but are we thinking of the same metallica?
[03:19] <Sanne> ODC: woot
[03:19] <Flying_Eagle> maybe. i didnt find anything to this in the faq ;)
[03:20] <Flying_Eagle> i just tuned in orion - and it just burst me away...
[03:21] <aleska> any chance any of you have insights as to why my keyboard volume control doesn't seem to actually change sound volumes?  (btw - only used  KDE for a few days now)
[03:21] <|Daisuke_Ido|> track name?
[03:22] <Flying_Eagle> orion
[03:22] <Flying_Eagle> like...
[03:23] <Flying_Eagle> aleska, i dont, but perhaps the keyword "kmilo" plus the ubuntu-wiki may help you on
[03:23] <coreymon77> guys
[03:23] <coreymon77> whats that file again
[03:23] <|Daisuke_Ido|> okay, that's *really* old metallica, back when they did make good music
[03:23] <coreymon77>  /etc/interfaces or something like that
[03:23] <coreymon77> where the wifi settings are kept
[03:23] <|Daisuke_Ido|> like...  1983 or somn
[03:24] <ODC> awesome, cd check came out clean, its installing now
[03:24] <Flying_Eagle> |Daisuke_Ido|, st.anger was for fun (like steal this album by SOAD) and the next one will just be amazingererizzleler
[03:24] <Sanne> ODC: double woot!
[03:24] <coreymon77> guys, where are the wifi interface settings kept
[03:24] <aleska> Flying_Eagle: I'll check it out; thx!
[03:25] <Flying_Eagle> coreymon77, /etc/network/interfaces
[03:25] <Flying_Eagle> plus extra-shit in the /etc/network subdirs
[03:25] <ODC> about how long is the kubuntu install?
[03:26] <Flying_Eagle> depends on cd drive and hd
[03:26] <coreymon77> auto ath0
[03:26] <coreymon77> iface ath0 inet static
[03:26] <coreymon77> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:26] <coreymon77> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:26] <coreymon77> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:26] <coreymon77> wireless-essid cohens
[03:26] <coreymon77> wireless-key 1a1e28f24d
[03:26] <coreymon77> does that mean it will start automatically
[03:26] <stdin> !paste
[03:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:26] <coreymon77> with boot
[03:26] <Flying_Eagle> coreymon77, si
[03:26] <coreymon77> okay
[03:26] <coreymon77> good
[03:27] <Flying_Eagle> ODC, on this machine the copy-part of the install takes about a quarter hour
[03:27] <Flying_Eagle> the complete install about half an hour - depending on the beta-status of the partitioning-tool ;/
[03:29] <Flying_Eagle> compared to the hours i spend to hunt a fistful of shit during the winxp install i love linux-installs
[03:29] <Flying_Eagle> even xandros ;)
[03:30] <desi007> is there any application that will convert minidv to dvd just one touch without transferring 1st to HDD/
[03:30] <coreymon77> guys
[03:30] <coreymon77> how od i install the newer java
[03:30] <coreymon77> the one on the apt repos is out of date
[03:31] <stdin> coreymon77: you mean version 6?
[03:31] <coreymon77> i meant jre
[03:31] <stdin> coreymon77: yeah, jre version 6?
[03:31] <coreymon77> whatever the newest sun-jre is
[03:32] <Sanne> night all
[03:32] <stdin> coreymon77: just enable the backports repo
[03:32] <stdin> coreymon77: and make sure you have multiverse in it too
[03:32] <coreymon77> but thats java 5
[03:33] <stdin> coreymon77: no, not in backports it isn't
[03:33] <stdin> !info sun-java6-jre dapper-backports
[03:33] <ubotu> sun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~dapper1 (dapper-backports), package size 6174 kB, installed size 14144 kB
[03:33] <stdin> same for edgy too
[03:33] <coreymon77> oh crap
[03:33] <coreymon77> i dont have the backports repos
[03:33] <coreymon77> what are they
[03:33] <coreymon77> ?
[03:34] <stdin> !backports
[03:34] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[03:35] <desi007> is there any application that will convert minidv to dvd just one touch without transferring 1st to HDD/
[03:36] <computrius> I am having issues installing ndiswrapper.
[03:36] <computrius> I installed ndiswrapper utils, and there were no errors
[03:37] <computrius> did ndiswrapper -i <driver> successfull..
[03:37] <computrius> no errors
[03:37] <computrius> did ndiswrapper -m, good
[03:37] <computrius> ndiswrapper -l good
[03:37] <computrius> finally modprobe, and it works.. However, no interface ever shows
[03:37] <pinoshaw> ola amigos
[03:37] <computrius> and ideas?
[03:37] <pinoshaw> tem algum brasileiro ai?
[03:39] <computrius> for some reason usbcore seems to be claiming the ndiswrapper module
[03:39] <computrius> dmesg |grep ndis outputs: "usbcore: registered new interface driver ndiswrapper"
[03:39] <rbrunhuber> Can i configure konqueror that it does not rely on network manager for localhost?
[03:40] <rbrunhuber> Can i configure konqueror that it does not rely on network manager for localhost?
[03:40] <dewey> good day mates
[03:40] <computrius> anyone have any clue what the issue could be?
[03:41] <coreymon77> computrius: are you sure you needed to use ndkiswrapper, because if you dont have to, you shouldnt
[03:42] <computrius> positive
[03:42] <computrius> there were no drivers detected for my card
[03:42] <computrius> dwl 520
[03:42] <computrius> im kind of curious why usbcore would claim the module
[03:43] <coreymon77> computrius: thats why i made sure i got a wireless card with an atheros chipset, they work automatically out of the box
[03:43] <coreymon77> computrius: w/o ndis
[03:43] <kubuntero> hi coreymon77
[03:43] <coreymon77> kubuntero: hi
[03:44] <computrius> perhaps, I had it working at one point under fedora
[03:44] <computrius> but fedora isnt exactly a good solution if you dont want crap
[03:44] <kubuntero> jhutchins: Hello :)
[03:44] <coreymon77> computrius: lol
[03:44] <coreymon77> kubuntero: you need something?
[03:44] <Flying_Eagle> coreymon77, liked that one :D
[03:44] <computrius> if I could do it without ndis, trust me, I would jump on it
[03:44] <coreymon77> Flying_Eagle: ???
[03:45] <kubuntero> coreymon77: Help
[03:45] <ODC> alright, great news, Ubuntu is now installed.
[03:45] <ODC> Kubuntu even
[03:45] <Flying_Eagle> i almost suggested you to stick with fedora...
[03:45] <ODC> Now... how do I install wine?
[03:45] <ODC> WINE
[03:45] <computrius> DDC: congratz, but installation is only 40% of the battle
[03:45] <computrius> :)
[03:45] <kubuntero> !wine | ODC
[03:45] <ODC> oh god
[03:45] <ubotu> ODC: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:45] <swanfl> wine is in adept
[03:45] <ODC> what now?
[03:46] <ODC> I'm applying all the Adept stuff right now
[03:46] <kubuntero> ODC: What are you trying to do?
[03:46] <swanfl> or use sudo apt-get wine
[03:46] <ODC> I didn't see WINE in it now
[03:46] <coreymon77> kubuntero: what do you need?
[03:46] <Flying_Eagle> ODC, what about reading?
[03:46] <ODC> Kubuntero: Play WoW
[03:46] <swanfl> do you have all the repositories?
[03:46] <ODC> swanfl: dunno
[03:46] <Flying_Eagle> youre asking already explained crap here the whole time
[03:46] <computrius> agg.. why do I always have the rare problems that no-one else has or knows the solution to?
[03:46] <coreymon77> computrius: believe me, you dont
[03:47] <coreymon77> computrius: you wouldnt have believe my sound problems
[03:47] <ODC> Flying_Eagle: Well, maybe to someone who plays in the environment the whole time, but as I've done none of it, the amount of info that you say is so easily readable, is in fact, not
[03:47] <Flying_Eagle> there are a shitload of tutorials in the web, ODC
[03:47] <kubuntero> !wow
[03:47] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:47] <swanfl> o hok
[03:47] <kubuntero> coreymon77: still the same problem from early in the day
[03:47] <computrius> funny, on fedora sound didnt work, wireless did
[03:47] <Flying_Eagle> ODC, there is ubuntu.com with an incredible readable wiki
[03:47] <computrius> now on ubuntu sound does work, wireless doesnt
[03:47] <coreymon77> kubuntero: which was...
[03:48] <coreymon77> kubuntero: remind me
[03:48] <kubuntero> I want to mount the /home partition on my drive as the /home of the FHS used by the Live CD
[03:51] <Admiral_Chicago> Flying_Eagle: language please
[03:52] <kubuntero> !language | Flying_Eagle
[03:52] <ubotu> Flying_Eagle: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:52] <Flying_Eagle> yes, i know
[03:52] <coreymon77> kubuntero: okay
[03:52] <Admiral_Chicago> i can tell you are frustrated but everyone gets frustrated. users looking for support, people giving support...etc.
[03:52] <coreymon77> kubuntero: cant do that
[03:53] <driggett> okay I'm back, using Konversation now
[03:53] <coreymon77> kubuntero: what you can do is mount your /home directory to another location
[03:53] <Flying_Eagle> Admiral_Chicago, i know. whether i am polite or quiet
[03:53] <kubuntero> coreymon77: can I mount my / for use by the Live CD?
[03:53] <coreymon77> kubuntero: nope
[03:54] <computrius> are there drivers for prism based Wlan cards?
[03:54] <coreymon77> kubuntero: but you cant mount it to a different location
[03:54] <tarnold> hey im installing the gstreamer packages with adept- will they work with the defualt movie players and such?
[03:54] <Flying_Eagle> computrius, yes
[03:54] <tarnold> like kaffiene?
[03:54] <coreymon77> kubuntero: follow these insctructions
[03:54] <computrius> specifically dwl 520
[03:54] <kubuntero> coreymon77: can I mount it somewhere else and make that my path?
[03:54] <Flying_Eagle> i had prism 2 and prism54 working
[03:54] <Flying_Eagle> latter with firmware
[03:54] <coreymon77> kubuntero: not sure
[03:54] <coreymon77> kubuntero: why would you need to?
[03:54] <computrius> where do I get firmware?
[03:55] <Flying_Eagle> if not supplied by ubuntu (like for acx) then in the web i suggest...
[03:55] <coreymon77> kubuntero: ill help you moutn the partitions
[03:55] <coreymon77> kubuntero: open a konsole window\
[03:56] <computrius> either way apparently ubuntu doesnt come with prism drivers
[03:57] <coreymon77> kubuntero: is one open?
[03:57] <kubuntero> coreymon77: I can mount them the issue I'm having is that the live cd user is 999 and my UID is 1000
[03:57] <Flying_Eagle> computrius, what about the "restricted modules"?
[03:57] <kubuntero> I guess I can copy the config files over and change the UID :(
[03:58] <coreymon77> kubuntero: i guess
[03:58] <push2882> i tried to install ubuntu 6.06 lts (dapper drake) with original dvd and i get an error : unable to locate rsdp
[03:58] <Flying_Eagle> i got a pc with orinoco/prism card and it worked out of the box, computrius
[03:58] <coreymon77> kubuntero: if you can mount them, whats the problem
[03:58] <push2882> and with kubuntu its the same thing
[03:58] <kubuntero> coreymon77: I just told you :)
[03:59] <computrius> hrrm
[03:59] <computrius> maybe feisty is different
[04:00] <computrius> I am looking in /lib/modules/....
[04:00] <kubuntero> Argh I just locked my self out of sudo
[04:00] <computrius> and nothing to the effect of prism
[04:00] <kubuntero> Rebooting
[04:00] <push2882> i tried to install ubuntu 6.06 lts (dapper drake) with original dvd and i get an error : unable to locate rsdp with kubuntu its the same thing somebody can help me
[04:02] <push2882> i tried to install ubuntu 6.06 lts (dapper drake) with original dvd and i get an error : unable to locate rsdp with kubuntu its the same thing somebody can help me
[04:02] <Flying_Eagle> computrius, i dont know the dwl 520, but if its a prism2-card then the driver is called orinoco
[04:03] <dewey> is flash 9 available in kubuntu?
[04:03] <Linux_Malay> Assalamualaikum w.b.t.
[04:03] <Flying_Eagle> dewey, yes
[04:04] <computrius> no errors with modprobe, but no device made either
[04:05] <Flying_Eagle> push2882, lesson 1: when you get an error-message and dont know how to handle it: google for it
[04:05] <Flying_Eagle> first hit should help
[04:07] <Krishean> ok, this is probably a simple question, but why can't i install xmms-mp4 or xmms-flac with apt-get?
[04:07] <dewey> Flying_Eagle, where is it?
[04:08] <Flying_Eagle> i think in some experimental repository at least for dapper, dewey
[04:08] <Krishean> its on the packages.ubuntu.com site, but it dosen't show up if i do dpkg -l 'xmms*'
[04:08] <dewey> hmmm ok I am on edgy
[04:08] <Flying_Eagle> Krishean, search per apt-cache search
[04:09] <Flying_Eagle> i dont know why, but dpkg -l doesnt show you everything
[04:09] <Krishean> apt-cache --help?
[04:09] <Flying_Eagle> apt-cache search whatever
[04:09] <Flying_Eagle> but apt-cache --help isnt uncorrect either ;)
[04:10] <Krishean> niether of the packages show up
[04:10] <Krishean> i get basically the same stuff as i get from dpkg
[04:11] <Flying_Eagle> did you add the regarding repositories and if so, did you "apt-get update"?
[04:11] <Krishean> i dunno how to add repositories
[04:11] <Krishean> but i have done apt-get update
[04:12] <Flying_Eagle> then read how you do that -> wiki
[04:12] <Flying_Eagle> dude, i hope that the english wiki is compareable to the german one
[04:13] <Krishean> as far as i have seen the wiki is confusing in english
[04:17] <stdin> dewey: looking for flash 9?
[04:17] <Flying_Eagle> lp.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[04:17] <Flying_Eagle> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[04:18] <Flying_Eagle> that should get you further, Krishean
[04:18] <stdin> !repos
[04:18] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:19] <Flying_Eagle> okay... i searched for "repository" and got nothin useful
[04:20] <tarnold> alright how do i play dvds?
[04:20] <stdin> knowing the bot commands saves me tons of time :P
[04:21] <tarnold> i added the restricted repositories but can't get casablanca to play
[04:21] <Flying_Eagle> tarnold, why dont you just use kaffeine?
[04:21] <tarnold> yesah
[04:21] <tarnold> but its not working
[04:21] <tarnold> says its encrypted
[04:21] <stdin> tarnold: take a look at, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs you probably need libdvdcss2 (for protected disks)
[04:21] <Flying_Eagle> libdvdcss
[04:22] <tarnold> yes, but i though i had that- guess not, what do i need to do?
[04:22] <sep1318> you may have it, but you need to extract it. or some other words that make a bit more sense.
[04:23] <Flying_Eagle> first of all, youll probably need to break the law :(
[04:23] <sep1318> take stdin's suggestion, and look at the webpage
[04:23] <sep1318> hehe yeah, that too.
[04:23] <stdin> Flying_Eagle: it's a stupid law anyway :P
[04:23] <sep1318> but i'm not quite sure on where that does/n't apply
[04:23] <sep1318> hehe.
[04:23] <sep1318> i second that.
[04:24] <Flying_Eagle> yes. but the gentleman who cracked the encryption got much trouble for his noble work
[04:24] <sep1318> ah.
[04:25] <tarnold> ok all reading the webpage
[04:25] <sep1318> :)
[04:25] <tarnold> i thought i enabled gstreamer in my package manager...what else is there to do?
[04:25] <tarnold> im still confused
[04:25] <wifioh> is there any way to force checkinstall into not using the packagename-version-release.deb syntax. i'd like checkinstall to use packagename-version.deb syntax instead
[04:27] <albert> hi, i just had a strange crash. i installed edgy, did the security-updates and then my system froze
[04:27] <albert> after that it wouldn't boot...
[04:28] <Flying_Eagle> kernel panic?
[04:28] <Flying_Eagle> can you boot an  older kernel version or sth?
[04:28] <stdin> wifioh: it uses the debian standard (name_version-release_arch.deb), you could tho, set the release to be blank, and see if that works
[04:28] <albert> yeah, kernel panic
[04:28] <albert> i formated
[04:29] <albert> but i wonder, why this would happen
[04:29] <Flying_Eagle> i think - w/o further info - anyone else, too ;)
[04:30] <Flying_Eagle> maybe the kernel was to be updated and the update failed
[04:30] <albert> hopefully it will work this time
[04:30] <wifioh> stdin: i can't seem to get it to default to anything other than 1. if i provide --pkgrelease '', it defaults to 1
[04:30] <albert> i'm getting tired of reinstalling all the time ;)
[04:31] <wifioh> stdin: also, same goes for --pkgarch '', it defaults to i386
[04:31] <Krishean> ok, it crashed again
[04:31] <Krishean> froze
[04:32] <emilio> #kubuntu-es
[04:32] <Krishean> wasn't in the color configuration dialog this time either
[04:32] <tarnold> can i get the wireless to connect to a network on start up instead of having to manually activate it?
[04:32] <ODC> I really like this so far
[04:32] <stdin> wifioh: hmm, don't know then, but why do you want to change it ?
[04:33] <Flying_Eagle> tarnold, yes. when not per gui then you could add "auto whateverdevicename" to your /etc/network/interfaces
[04:34] <tarnold> what do you mean when not per gui?
[04:34] <snowrichard> hello
[04:34] <tarnold> if the device is my wireless, and ive a broadcom(forget device name atm)?
[04:34] <Flying_Eagle> tarnold, you should be able to do it in the controlcenter. but you can also do it manually by editing /etc/network/interfaces
[04:35] <tarnold> ah- how in hte control center?
[04:35] <Krishean> how do i find out whats freezing my machine?
[04:36] <Flying_Eagle> it should be obvious like "enable at bootup"
[04:36] <EADG> Is it possible to have an audio preview in Konqueror while hovering over a .mp3? Where do i config that?
[04:36] <wifioh> stdin: i wrote some custom scripts to check version numbers in that way, so having anything after that is garbage i rather not have. also, i find it aesthetically unappealing
[04:36] <wifioh> i have to go home now, but i'll be back in a bit, thanks for your help thus far stdin
[04:37] <stdin> EADG: install the packagel libarts1-mpeglib
[04:37] <stdin> *package
[04:37] <deathnote> hi im trying to instlal kubuntu edgy on my evo compaq laptop..it keeps going into BusyBox
[04:37] <deathnote> why?
[04:37] <Kubuntuero> ODC: Welcoome to the kubunt Fold :)
[04:37] <underdog5004> so, is there any way to stream video from a home-server that I've got? Cause right now I have to download vids to a tmp file and then wait for them to download...
[04:38] <tarnold> flying_Eagle: i appearently can't find it im looking at kcontrol now, and am in internet options
[04:38] <Flying_Eagle> look in the network-options
[04:38] <ODC> Kubuntuero: thanks, I'll be exploring a lot here in the near future
[04:38] <EADG> stdin: Thanks.
[04:38] <deathnote> why am i keep going into BusyBox v1.1.3
[04:38] <albert> my adept manager won't download the extra-codecs
[04:38] <ODC> so far I've installed WINE and am working on the World of Warcraft thing
[04:39] <Flying_Eagle> albert, they are in the multiverse-repository
[04:39] <ODC> Thanks to Flying_Eagle's tough love, I've found a section all about WoW in the Ubuntu help files
[04:39] <albert> Flying_Eagle: i activated them, but the download won't start
[04:39] <stdin> underdog5004: yeah, just use samba, nfs, ssh or ftp to stream, or you can use VLC to stream over network too
[04:39] <albert> ah, finally
[04:39] <albert> took about 5 minutes
[04:39] <underdog5004> stdin, how can I use ssh/ftp to stream?
[04:39] <Flying_Eagle> ODC, hrhr, thanks :D
[04:39] <deathnote> OHHHHHHHHH SHIT
[04:39] <ODC> =)
[04:39] <tarnold> Flying_Eagle: well i can't find it, so im not to sure about it,  but teh fact taht its 10 40 pm may have something to do with it
[04:39] <deathnote> i am booting from a USB CD ROM
[04:39] <deathnote> is it because kubuntu can't detect
[04:40] <deathnote> the cd rom
[04:40] <deathnote> cos i read the log it seems like so
[04:40] <tarnold> !language | deathnote:
[04:40] <ubotu> deathnote:: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:40] <deathnote> ?
[04:40] <deathnote> who are u?
[04:40] <tarnold> no ohh SH!T
[04:40] <tarnold> commen curetesy
[04:40] <stdin> underdog5004: just set your media player to play from ftp://yourserver/dir/filename , some also work with fish://user@server/dir/filename , if not, you can mount both ftp and ssh with fuse
[04:41] <deathnote> lol..u can't even spell
[04:41] <underdog5004> gotcha, thanks a lot, stdin
[04:41] <underdog5004> you rock
[04:41] <stdin> I know :P
[04:41] <tarnold> ah hah bugger off if your gonna act like a twit
[04:41] <stdin> you're welcome. underdog5004 :)
[04:47] <EADG> stdin: package libarts1-mpeglib installed but no .mp3 preview. Any other suggestions off the top of your head?
[04:49] <stdin> EADG: 1st, make sure it's set right in View->Preview->Sound files, then, you may have to restart Konqueror to have it take effect, if that doesn't work, try logging out and back in
[04:51] <makuseru> how can i change the default audio track on an ogm file?
[04:54] <EADG> Gonna try restarting X
[04:57] <EADG> :(
[05:02] <Emerald> Hello, I have a problem with my Kubuntu install- Whenever I try and boot from the LiveCD it will load up until a blue screen with a cursor
[05:02] <Emerald> Then it will stop completely, and I can move my mouse- but do nothing else
[05:03] <Emerald> So I'm wondering- What would generaly be the issue here?
[05:07] <makuseru> how can i change the default audio track on an ogm file?
[05:07] <stdin> something to do with the graphics card you have probably Emerald
[05:13] <krammer> has anyone installed the desklist plugin for kopete?
[05:15] <krammer> i ran successfully, but it doesn't show up in my plugin list
[05:15] <Emerald> Ah, I have a 7800 GT, does that chip often cause problems ?
[05:18] <albert_> !ati
[05:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:18] <aphroguy> !1280x1024
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 1280x1024 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <aphroguy> !resolution
[05:18] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:18] <rpvonz> hi
[05:19] <krammer> !kopete
[05:19] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 6824 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[05:19] <rpvonz> how come i cant log into my su?
[05:19] <Emerald> Thanks for that, but I can't boot up the Live CD, so I'm not running linux right now.
[05:19] <Emerald> It just stops when it gets to the blue screen. I have a cursor that I can move, but that's about it.
[05:19] <albert_> hi, are there special drivers for each radeon serie?
[05:19] <rpvonz> do i use the password i assigned?
[05:19] <makuseru> aphroguy: having problems getting 1280x1024
[05:19] <stdin> Emerald: you can try booting to the Safe Graphics mode or, if that still fails, you can download the alternate install CD, which is the same as the Desktop install CD, except it's a text based installer
[05:20] <aphroguy> Emerald, what are your hardware specs?
[05:20] <rpvonz> albert: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28binary%29%7C%28driver%29
[05:20] <aphroguy> Makuseru, yes, I am.  Can't get above 1024x768
[05:20] <Emerald> Okay, I have a AMD Athlon 4000+, 1 GB of DDR RAM, NVidia 7800 GT, Creative Sound Blaster Value 2
[05:20] <emet> kello kere
[05:20] <Emerald> ANd a MSI
[05:20] <Emerald> K8N Neo4 Platinum
[05:21] <makuseru> aphroguy: i have the same problem, the way i get 1280x1024 is to reconfigure X and choose 1280x1024 when it asks for resolution
[05:21] <emet> can I have your video card
[05:21] <rpvonz> i'm trying to run gksudo, it wont let me...
[05:21] <albert_> rpvonz: am i able to uninstall the drivers, if they fail to improve my performance or even reduce it?
[05:21] <rpvonz> what is your card...
[05:21] <Emerald> Okay, one sec
[05:21] <albert_> it happened to me in dapper, that they dropped my perfomance heavily
[05:22] <rpvonz> albert: video card?
[05:22] <albert_> ati radeon (diamond) 9600
[05:22] <rpvonz> heh... should work...
[05:22] <aphroguy> Emerald, wow, definitely shouldn't be a hardware restraint.  But it could be the video card.  Try the alternate CD, and see if you're able to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg before you actually boot to Kubuntu.  You may even have to get the nvidia drivers before booting to KDE.
[05:22] <albert_> k
[05:22] <rpvonz> i'm just installing for my x1300
[05:22] <Dr_willis> ati 9600 should work fine with the fglrx drivers
[05:22] <albert_> k, but in dapper the driver dropped my performance
[05:22] <albert_> couldn't watch videos anymore
[05:22] <stdin> rpvonz: gksudo? that's the gnome one, use kdesu
[05:22] <rpvonz> oh thanks!
[05:22] <Emerald> Okay, I've got a eVGA N517 GeForce 7800GT
[05:23] <Emerald> Alright then
[05:23] <rpvonz> *i made a newb mistake :(*
[05:23] <Emerald> I'll try that
[05:23] <aphroguy> Makuseru, I've been through that a DOZENS of times, doesn't work.  Causes my x-server to crash at login, kicking me back to the login screen for an endless loop.
[05:24] <krammer> nevermind i got it working
[05:24] <makuseru> doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:24] <Emerald> I'll try doing that using the alternate- THanks so much!
[05:24] <elijah> hi somerville
[05:25] <aphroguy> Makuseru: Exactly.  If I try to select anything higher than my current resolution, it crashes.
[05:25] <albert_> should i choose the open-source drivers or the ati drivers?
[05:25] <makuseru> hmmm
[05:25] <Dr_willis> aphroguy,  you get to the KDM login? and then the X server crashes after you login?
[05:25] <makuseru> does your moniter support it?
[05:25] <Ashex> so, my menu bar just died
[05:26] <elijah> hi everyone
[05:26] <rpvonz> nother newb question i opened kdesud, but i mistyped the directory, now it says warning kdesud is running...
[05:26] <aphroguy> That's right, Dr, takes me back to the login screen after it goes blank.
[05:26] <Dr_willis> aphroguy,  and you have an ati card?
[05:26] <Ashex> what's the name of the k app that's that bar?
[05:26] <stdin> Ashex: you mean kicker?
[05:26] <Ashex> stdin, that's the one!
[05:26] <elijah> why some controls like system date & network properties are disabled using my log-in?
[05:27] <stdin> :)
[05:27] <Ashex> yeah, it crashed when kaffeine launched
[05:27] <aphroguy> No, crappy HP Pavilion notebook and S3 graphics twister integrated video.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> elijah,  ther should be an 'administrator mode' button thats at the bottom of the panel/window. BUT i find that often the window is sized where its not noticeable at first.
[05:27] <kubuntero> Where is kopete info kept?
[05:27] <aphroguy> But the card supports up to 1280x1024, as does the 17" CRT that's plugged into it.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> aphroguy,  Hmm.. i had a similer issuw with ati cards, and the 'accelerated' video mode.. but not tried a S3.
[05:28] <aphroguy> The LCD display is shot, can't see a display at all.
[05:28] <elijah> dr willis, is there any other way for me to find that?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> elijah,  maxamize the window
[05:28] <elijah> or maybe can i make my log-in equivalent to root?
[05:28] <makuseru> aphroguy: dunno why it shoudl work i have ATI 7000 and a 15"
[05:28] <makuseru> crt
[05:28] <makuseru> and i use 1280x1024
[05:28] <Dr_willis> elijah,  you are trying too hard. :) just maxamize the window.
[05:29] <elijah> he he
[05:29] <rpvonz> ...ugh whats the default password for kdesu!!!
[05:29] <elijah> ok thanks
[05:29] <elijah> i'll try that
[05:29] <makuseru> same as your root pass rpvonz
[05:29] <rpvonz> i tried it...
[05:29] <elijah> thank you so much dr willis
[05:29] <rpvonz> it don't work...
[05:29] <Dr_willis> elijah,  i got no idw why the problem happens in kubuntu. other kde based disrtos dont have the issue.
[05:29] <NixHex> rpvonz: its your personal password
[05:29] <Dr_willis> elijah,  however. once ya mazamize the window once.. i think it rembers and shows up right from then on. :)
[05:29] <stdin> kubuntero: what do you mean by "kopete info"? the settings?
[05:30] <rpvonz> i tried that...
[05:30] <rpvonz> i think i forgot it...
[05:30] <rpvonz> ...
[05:30] <kubuntero> stdin: Yes I want to move my accounts to a new machine
[05:31] <rpvonz> it keeps sayin permission denied....
[05:31] <NixHex> rpvonz: whats the command you are trying?
[05:31] <stdin> kubuntero: it would be in the ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/ directory and the ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc file
[05:32] <rpvonz> kdesu gedit gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[05:32] <rpvonz> no two gedits sry
[05:32] <stdin> rpvonz: use kate, not gedit
[05:32] <NixHex> rpvonz: its not gedit...its kate or even kwrite
[05:32] <makuseru> or nano
[05:32] <rpvonz> oh
[05:33] <rpvonz> too used to gnome!
[05:33] <aphroguy> NANO IS TEH BOM!
[05:33] <rpvonz> ha it worked, you guys are the best...
[05:34] <aphroguy> I'd recommend Nano for anything.
[05:34] <rpvonz> kk
[05:34] <aphroguy> INCLUDING a stellar HTML IDE. :-D
[05:34] <rpvonz> heh... how do i enable the disabled ati modules...
[05:35] <rpvonz> could someone do this for me... like over a vnc client??? :)
[05:35] <rpvonz> i know i'm going to screw something up...
[05:35] <makuseru> what are you trying to do
[05:35] <rpvonz> install ati drivers
[05:35] <makuseru> its not hard
[05:35] <rpvonz> ill screw something up...
[05:36] <rpvonz> seriously i havetried this like 5 times before
[05:36] <rpvonz> i will
[05:36] <rpvonz> *will
[05:36] <makuseru> if you do remember just use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:36] <makuseru> so you can get back in
[05:36] <rpvonz> i cant remember that!!!
[05:36] <makuseru> write it down
[05:36] <rpvonz> ugh, do it for me! :)
[05:37] <makuseru> no, its prefectially simple to get flgrx drivers
[05:37] <makuseru> i use ati
[05:37] <rpvonz> ...and thats why ive had to reinstall this os like ten times...
[05:37] <aphroguy> Rpvonz, you can do it from Konsole, as long as you log out once you're done and restart the X-server.
[05:37] <makuseru> even though my card is too old for flgrx
[05:37] <rpvonz> i'm uncomfortable doing it, do it for me ;)
[05:38] <makuseru> just because you mess up installing a video driver dosnt mean you have to reinstall the OS
[05:38] <makuseru> you just do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:38] <rpvonz> ...ahem
[05:38] <rpvonz> just do it for me please!!
[05:38] <rpvonz> you can try vnc!
[05:38] <rpvonz> i need a linux pro!
[05:38] <makuseru> pro?
[05:39] <makuseru> im a highschool student
[05:39] <rpvonz> i'm middle school goin to highschool...
[05:39] <makuseru> and just a sophmore at that
[05:39] <makuseru> you can figure it out
[05:39] <makuseru> it is not hard
[05:39] <rpvonz> ah whatever
[05:39] <makuseru> and demanding things will never get you what you want
[05:39] <rpvonz> i know
[05:39] <makuseru> like the ubuntu forums say, we are not employees, weare volunters
[05:40] <rpvonz> your very nice volunteers :)
[05:40] <rpvonz> who strive to make ubuntu perfect!
[05:40] <albert> can anybody tell me the command line for downloading java?
[05:40] <rpvonz> well how do i enable the module, i'm in the config file...
[05:41] <golum83> hi i have a problem, i have already downloaded the flash player tu see videos on youtube
[05:41] <golum83> but i can watch it
[05:41] <rpvonz> it not flash player 9
[05:41] <rpvonz> or whatever the latest is
[05:41] <stdin> !flash9
[05:41] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[05:41] <albert> !java
[05:41] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:41] <makuseru> !java
[05:41] <makuseru> haha
[05:41] <golum83> let me see thanks
[05:41] <albert> yeah, i finally learned to think
[05:41] <makuseru> theres the package albet
[05:41] <kubuntero> stdin: Righteous
[05:41] <golum83> !flash
[05:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:42] <Bearcat> hey folks
[05:42] <makuseru> so sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[05:42] <aphroguy> Hi Bearcat
[05:42] <rpvonz> what would this be -> DISABLED_MODULES="ath_hal fc fglrx ltm nv" is it the ati drivers... or should i leave it alone???
[05:43] <rpvonz> hmmm???
[05:43] <albert> !multiverse java
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multiverse java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <Bearcat> i'm having a bit of  a problem here. I have a fix, but it feels more like a patch. kppp does not handle the default gateway properly. i can fix that by using route, but when i reboot it is back to it's bad behavior. It strikes me that this should have been fixed a long time ago so i must be doing somehting wrong. See here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/53877
[05:44] <NixHex>  hey, anyone know if they have done a 64bit port of flash plugin? (already asked in Ubuntu+1...waiting response)
[05:44] <NixHex> in feisty
[05:44] <Bearcat> NixHex: nope. It doesn't exist for any distro
[05:44] <rpvonz> DISABLED_MODULES="ath_hal fc fglrx ltm nv" i'm going to delete this disabled module!!1
[05:44] <stdin> NixHex: there is no 64bit flash (from adobe/macromedia), you'll have to make do with gnash
[05:45] <userund> you can run a 32bit firefox, that's what I hear some people do to get around flash
[05:45] <rpvonz> do i just delete the fglrx part of it!
[05:45] <NixHex> stdin: nah, I'll just install 32bit firefox...just wondering if they came up for a port of it in feisty
[05:46] <stdin> NixHex: they can't, the ubuntu devs don't make flash
[05:46] <aphroguy> Bearcat: Shell script?  You're right, it would be more of a patch, but unless you want to edit the program itself, it's PROBABLY the only option.  Granted, I'm not that familiar with kppp.
[05:46] <rpvonz> makuseru: do i delete fglrx off of this line to get it working???... DISABLED_MODULES="ath_hal fc fglrx ltm nv"
[05:47] <Bearcat> aphroguy: doesn't it strike you as strange that such a basic bug would be over 6 months old?
[05:47] <userund> Bearcat: not really.  I've seen worse.
[05:47] <makuseru> rpvonz: i dont know, dont use flgrx
[05:47] <aphroguy> In the software dev world, no.
[05:47] <rpvonz> kk...
[05:47] <stdin> Bearcat: have you checked that the bug has been reported ?
[05:47] <rpvonz> i did it...
[05:47] <rpvonz> hope it doesn't get screwed
[05:47] <Bearcat> because not that many people use dial-up anymore?
[05:48] <Bearcat> stdin: on bugs.kde.org? nope
[05:48] <stdin> Bearcat: no, on launchpad
[05:48] <Dr_willis> the only pc i got with a modem.. is my laptop. :)
[05:48] <Dr_willis> and ive never used that feature.
[05:48] <stdin> Bearcat: https://bugs.launchpad.net
[05:48] <Bearcat> stdin: yeah, i posted a link to it in my question. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/53877
[05:49] <golum83> !backports
[05:49] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[05:50] <Bearcat> i'm not using kubuntu myself, i'm just supporting it. I suppose i'm gonna have to make a script to do this. Is it suficient to just put it in rl 3?
[05:50] <albert> !screenshot
[05:50] <ubotu> Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr]  button or the File -> Acquire menu in the GIMP.
[05:51] <Bearcat> i'll try putting it in bootmisc
[05:51] <rpvonz> i dont like nano how do i exit without saving!!!
[05:51] <stdin> Bearcat: runlevel 2 is the default runlevel
[05:51] <stdin> rpvonz: Ctrl-X, then press n
[05:51] <Bearcat> stdin: right, but it would have to run after the network script, wouldn't it?
[05:52] <stdin> Bearcat: yeah, but the scripts for rl 3 are never run, unless the user runs "init 3"
[05:53] <Bearcat> stdin: what? I'm still confused by ubuntu.
[05:53] <elijah> hi, im trying tu use the adept updater but it says the apt is not properly configured.
[05:53] <elijah> what should i do?
[05:53] <stdin> Bearcat: the system boots in to runlevel 2, and stays there
[05:54] <Bearcat> stdin: then how does the system even get to kde since that's all in rl 5?
[05:54] <rpvonz> i think i might have installed the ati drivers correctly!!!
[05:54] <stdin> Bearcat: no, it's in rl 2
[05:54] <golum83> hi i have already the <IP_ADDRESS> version of flash and installed as deb file but still can't play videos on youtube any help
[05:54] <stdin> Bearcat: no, it's in rl 2, /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm starts KDE
[05:55] <rpvonz> can i pm someone knowledgeable to see if its right (i ran fglrxinfo)
[05:55] <stdin> Bearcat: well, KDM antway
[05:55] <Bearcat> stdin: isn't that counter to standards? Not that it's a bad thing.
[05:55] <stdin> Bearcat: it's just the way all debian based systems work
[05:56] <rpvonz> i think i got it!
[05:56] <elijah> stdin, im trying tu use the adept updater but it says the apt is not properly configured.
[05:56] <kubuntero> juc/j #kubuntu-devel
[05:56] <rpvonz> thanks for your guys' help onto installing xgl!!!
[05:56] <Bearcat> stdin: i'll mess with it and bug you if i have problems. Thanks :P
[05:56] <ctw> Hi, I have a weired apt-get / dpkg issue that I'm hoping somebody might be able to help me out with
[05:57] <ctw> earlier today I got an error message during an upgrade concerning libgphoto2-2
[05:57] <ctw> I uninstalled it and that triggered the uninstall of kubuntu-desktop and several other packages
[05:58] <ctw> I then tried to reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[05:58] <ctw> and now I'm getting dependency problems for the packages that were previously deinstalled
[05:58] <ctw> I'm running Feisty
[05:58] <stdin> elijah: open Konsole (Kmenu -> System -> Konsole" and type "sudo dpkg --configure -a", then tell me what happens
[05:58] <ctw> but I'm running it on two computers
[05:58] <ctw> and it only affects one
[05:59] <ctw> does anybody have any idea what to do?
[05:59] <ctw> I'm hitting a wall ...
[05:59] <stdin> ctw: run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and post the output to http://pastebin.ca so I can have a look
[06:01] <ctw> http://pastebin.ca/384576
[06:01] <ctw> stdin: see the above lin
[06:01] <ctw> k
[06:01] <ctw> thanks for taking a look ... any idea?
[06:02] <elijah> thanks stdin, i'll try that
[06:03] <mardi> hi, anyone here use knode and knows how to filter cross posts?
[06:03] <NightBird> huh... kubuntu doesn't like it when I try to shutdown or log out...
[06:03] <matt____> kubuntu doesnt see my cd rom, do I need to get drivers somewhere or something?
[06:03] <carutsu> hello
[06:04] <carutsu> how in world do i turn on zeroconf
[06:04] <kubuntero> !zeroconf
[06:04] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB
[06:04] <carutsu> shouldnt it be ZERO conf for that...
[06:04] <carutsu> omg its not even installed
[06:04] <carutsu> then is pointles
[06:04] <golum83> !flash
[06:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:04] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[06:04] <NightBird> matt____, wow, it doesn't see your cdrom?  uh... do other operating systems detect it?
[06:05] <carutsu> thats weird
[06:05] <stdin> ctw: wow, those are some strange errors there
[06:05] <carutsu> stdin hello
[06:05] <matt____> windows sees it and it shows up in the bios
[06:05] <NightBird> matt____, and you installed from it as well I'm guessing, right?
[06:05] <matt____> ya
[06:05] <NightBird> hm...
[06:05] <stdin> hey carutsu
[06:05] <NightBird> most curious...
[06:06] <matt____> I am pretty sure it doesnt see it, I cant find it anywhere
[06:06] <carutsu> stdin i had to instal xine and now kaffeine is pointless on my pc. xD
[06:06] <ctw> stdin: I know
[06:06] <NightBird> matt____, have you checked the dev directory?
[06:06] <ctw> stdin: I have no idea what to do
[06:06] <matt____> how would I go about checking it
[06:06] <NightBird> it may just be that it isn't automounting cd's for some reason..
[06:07] <carutsu> !zeroconf
[06:07] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB
[06:07] <NightBird> matt____, the directory is in /dev/
[06:07] <carutsu> how do i turn it on?
[06:07] <NightBird> but I don't know what device it would be..
[06:07] <NightBird> carutsu, did you install it?
[06:07] <carutsu> NightBird yes
[06:07] <aleska> in gnome's nautilus, I was able to add a hard delete along with the typical move to trash.  Is there a way to do so in konquerer as well?
[06:07] <carutsu> but the daemon isnt runing...
[06:07] <mardi> why even produce a news reader that can't filter cross posts?
[06:08] <carutsu> NightBird but the daemon isnt runing...
[06:08] <K`zan> aleska: shift-del in konq to just delete...
[06:08] <NightBird> carutsu, go to system settings, advanced, and there should be something about auto run, or daemons, or something similar...
[06:08] <aleska> thx K'zan
[06:08] <NightBird> (I have windows open right now due to having to work on some homework
[06:08] <carutsu> services?
[06:08] <aleska> anyway to make it appear as an option when right-clicking a file?
[06:08] <NightBird> so I can't tell you what it is exactly..
[06:08] <NightBird> yeah, services
[06:08] <NightBird> go in there, see if it's on that list
[06:09] <carutsu> system services or Services Administrator?
[06:09] <NightBird> system services
[06:09] <NightBird> if it is, start it, and then set it to autostart
[06:09] <carutsu> NightBird ok
[06:09] <carutsu> NightBird i still cant belive its not on by default ZEROconf, xD
[06:09] <ctw> stdin: any idea what I could try?
[06:10] <NightBird> carutsu, yeah, if you install it, I would have imagined that it would have auto started it, but maybe not
[06:10] <carutsu> its not listed
[06:10] <stdin> ctw: have you tried reinstalling the package libcaca0, files from that seem to be the problem
[06:10] <carutsu> NightBird its not listed
[06:10] <carutsu> NightBird should i restart? omg i'm still windowed xD
[06:10] <albert> !ftp
[06:10] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[06:10] <jnl> whats going on here?
[06:10] <NightBird> ok, what about going to konsole, and try typing the begining of the name
[06:11] <NightBird> then tab
[06:11] <carutsu> i did
[06:11] <NightBird> no good?
[06:11] <carutsu> it says error dont-know-what needed
[06:11] <NightBird> so there was a program named that?
[06:11] <albert> !kasamblanca
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kasamblanca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <albert> !Kasablanca
[06:11] <ubotu> kasablanca: fast and free ftp client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1build1 (edgy), package size 160 kB, installed size 612 kB
[06:11] <NightBird> carutsu: try using kdesu on it
[06:11] <albert> !kftpgrabber
[06:11] <ubotu> kftpgrabber: KDE FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0beta1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 989 kB, installed size 2792 kB
[06:12] <carutsu> usage error
[06:12] <carutsu> zeroconf [-f|--force]  [-v|--verbose]  [-n|--no-fork]  [-i|--interface]  <interface>
[06:12] <carutsu> where:
[06:12] <carutsu>         -f      force zeroconf to run on the specified interface
[06:12] <carutsu>         -v      report verbose information
[06:12] <carutsu>         -n      do not fork into the background
[06:12] <carutsu>         -i      which interface to run on [required]
[06:12] <NightBird> whoa
[06:12] <carutsu> omg sorry mistaken
[06:12] <NightBird> uh...
[06:12] <NightBird> include the interface you want to use zeroconf on
[06:13] <carutsu> it says something that mdnsd the daemon isnt runing
[06:13] <intelikey> how many in here know that  apt-get remove 'blah' will break dependancies ?
[06:13] <intelikey> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[06:13] <intelikey> and all i did was apt-get remove -y blah
[06:13] <ctw> stdin:http://pastebin.ca/384586
[06:13] <NightBird> intelikey, yeah, it can
[06:14] <intelikey> NightBird yes, i know.  but it shouldn't.
[06:14] <carutsu> NightBird should i restart?
[06:14] <ctw> stdin: any idea how I can reinstall libcac0?
[06:14] <NightBird> intelikey, why not?
[06:14] <ctw> stdin: see the link to the error above
[06:14] <NightBird> apt-get isn't intelligent enough to detect that kind of stuff
[06:15] <intelikey> nightbird that's the whole reason behind apt.
[06:15] <NightBird> no, apt-get just downloads detected dependencies on install
[06:15] <carutsu> NightBird should i restart?
[06:15] <stdin> ctw: try "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libcac0"
[06:15] <NightBird> carutsu: no
[06:15] <NightBird> aptitude and it's console version auto handles removal of dependines, and will warn about breaking known dependencies
[06:16] <NightBird> carutsu, which interface do you want to configure?
[06:16] <NightBird> eth0? eth1? wlan0?
[06:16] <carutsu> none of them
[06:16] <NightBird> ..
[06:16] <carutsu> i want to acces a shared
[06:16] <carutsu> resource
[06:16] <NightBird> uh..
[06:16] <NightBird> !zeroconf
[06:16] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB
[06:17] <albert> !image
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <NightBird> zeroconf handles configuring your network interfaces..
[06:17] <ctw> sdtin: these errors keep getting stranger: http://pastebin.ca/384591
[06:17] <carutsu> zeroconf is also for shared services as far as i know
[06:17] <albert> !picture
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about picture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <raylu> NightBird, wouldn't that be the same as ifconfig/up/down?
[06:17] <elijah> hi stdin
[06:17] <NightBird> what kind of shared resources?
[06:17] <raylu> albert, are you trying to get an image viewer?
[06:17] <carutsu> printers
[06:17] <NightBird> raylu, it probably does things a bit more elagently :P
[06:17] <golum83> hi i have already the <IP_ADDRESS> version of flash and installed as deb file but still can't play videos on youtube any help?
[06:18] <albert> yeah, sth like irfanview in windows
[06:18] <albert> small and easy to use
[06:18] <raylu> golum83, what browser?
[06:18] <golum83> firefox
[06:18] <carutsu> i found it
[06:18] <carutsu> finlly
[06:18] <carutsu> enable zero conf network browsing
[06:18] <stdin> hey elijah :)
[06:18] <NightBird> uh.. ok
[06:18] <raylu> albert, i'm not familiar with irfanview or sth...but gwenview should serve your purposes
[06:18] <santos> albert,  gwenview
[06:18] <elijah> stdin i tried what you said but to no avail, i tried "apt-get update" on the console but it says that "E: 'cdrom' is unknown"
[06:18] <albert> thank you two
[06:19] <raylu> golum83, when you go to youtube, doesn't it ask you to install a missing plugin?
[06:19] <stdin> ctw: I'm beginning to think that you have some disk corruption
[06:19] <elijah> why the update is pointed to the cdrom?
[06:19] <kubuntero> carutsu: Where?
[06:19] <golum83> yes i have already downloaded and with alien convrted to deb and installed
[06:19] <stdin> elijah: because you have a CD as a source in your sources.list
[06:19] <raylu> golum83, you shouldn't have needed to convert with alien
[06:19] <carutsu> kubuntero is im not sure how is spelled on english, something like network preferences
[06:19] <elijah> stdin where will i remove that?
[06:19] <golum83> i convert the rpm file
[06:20] <raylu> golum83, I'm guessing you had to do a manual install?
[06:20] <ctw> stdin: is there anything I could to to test that
[06:20] <golum83> yes manual from konsole
[06:20] <raylu> o.0..strange
[06:20] <raylu> there is a libflash-mozplugin
[06:20] <kubuntero> carutsu: ah ok
[06:20] <ctw> stdin: I turned off to computer this morning without properly shutting it down ... might that be part of the problem?
[06:20] <raylu> and a flashplayer-mozilla
[06:20] <raylu> !flashplayer-mozilla
[06:20] <ubotu> flashplayer-mozilla: Macromedia Flash Player. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6.0.79-0.2 (edgy), package size 685 kB, installed size 1528 kB (Only available for i386)
[06:21] <raylu> !libflash-mozplugin
[06:21] <ubotu> libflash-mozplugin: GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.13-8ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 100 kB
[06:21] <raylu> hm...I can't tell which one you need
[06:21] <dtc_> anyone know of a nice gui for mounting iso's like Windows daemon ?
[06:21] <jack> hello all
[06:21] <raylu> dtc_, acetoneISO, but it didn't work for me
[06:21] <stdin> elijah: in Konsole, type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" then add a # to the beginning of the line the cd info on it (should be the top line), then press Ctrl-O, then Crtl-X
[06:21] <raylu> !hi | jack
[06:21] <ubotu> jack: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:21] <golum83> let me install libflash the other one i have already installed and not working
[06:22] <dtc_> thanks raylu... I'll try that
[06:22] <lupo> buon giornno
[06:22] <raylu> dtc_, if you're mounting the same stuff over and over, I suppose you could write a script for it
[06:22] <ctw> stdin: I have jfs
[06:23] <stdin> ctw: it could be, I'd run a check by shutting down with "sudo shutdown -rF now" (will shutdown and restart immediately)
[06:23] <dtc_> kind of... I've got like 15 iso's that are movies sitting on an external drive, don't want to write a different script for each though
[06:23] <stdin> ctw: jfs?
[06:23] <elijah> thanls stdin
[06:23] <golum83> I installed libflash-mozplugin and not working
[06:23] <elijah> i'll try it again
[06:23] <stdin> ctw: notsure if fsck works on jfs
[06:24] <stdin> ctw: but give it a try, it defiantly looks like some files got messed up
[06:24] <lupo>  la prima volta che uso un canale irc chi mi spiega le regole?
[06:25] <stdin> elijah: after you change the file, and save it, you'll have to run "sudo apt-get update" first, to make the changes take effect
[06:25] <carutsu> i cant
[06:25] <carutsu> i just cant
[06:25] <stdin> !it | lupo
[06:25] <ubotu> lupo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:25] <carutsu> this is the only drawback i can find
[06:25] <raylu> dtc_, er, no, you can specify arguments in the script of course
[06:25] <ctw> sdtin: it seems like fsck will work, but it warns me about not running it on a mounted filesystem
[06:25] <lupo> come devo fare?
[06:25] <raylu> golum83, I still think it should install automatically when you tell it to in FF
[06:25] <ctw> sdtin: so I guess I'll get a live CD and check it
[06:26] <ctw> sdtin: thanks so much for your help
[06:26] <lupo> buon giorno dal lupo
[06:26] <stdin> ctw: no problem, let me know how it turns out :)
[06:26] <dtc_> yea thats true... thanks for the help... gonna try the acetoneISO thing first though
[06:27] <raylu> don't make the mistake I did of compiling it yourself :D
[06:27] <raylu> wait...perhaps that's why...
[06:28] <ctw> sdtin: it'll have to wait until tomorrow ... I currently don't have physical access to the computer ... it's at work ... I'm ssh'ing into it right now
[06:28] <golum83> FF? sorry mi ignorance
[06:28] <raylu> firefox
[06:28] <golum83> ok well let me continue trying thanks
[06:29] <stdin> ctw: no problem, I'm always here, even when I'm not actually here :P
[06:30] <stdin> ctw: and it's stdin, not sdtin, I keep missing your messages :P
[06:30] <carutsu> NightBird it says NT acces denied
[06:30] <mardi> anyone here use knode and knows how to filter cross posts?
[06:30] <raylu> tab ftw!
[06:32] <NightBird> carutsu, I'm working on homework right now, I won't be able to help you
[06:32] <NightBird> plus, I don't know anything about getting printers to work
[06:32] <makuseru> how can i convert .ogm to .avi or .mpg?
[06:32] <raylu> carutsu, what says NT access denied?
[06:33] <raylu> !ogmtools
[06:33] <ubotu> ogmtools: Tools for manipulating Ogg multimedia streams. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.5-2.1 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 472 kB
[06:33] <raylu> i've never used it, so I don't know what will happen ^
[06:33] <ctw> stdin: oh sorry ... I actually did a lot of writing recently where I used the abbreviation SDT
[06:33] <raylu> but it *might* work
[06:33] <ctw> stdin: of course stdin makes much more sense ... :)
[06:33] <carutsu> when i try to find the printer
[06:33] <carutsu> raylu
[06:33] <stdin> ctw: heh, it's ok, I've been called worse ;)
[06:33] <ctw> stdin: but it's so engrained in my fingers now
[06:34] <ctw> stdin: :)
[06:34] <raylu> carutsu, er...with what?
[06:34] <carutsu> with the prinder manager of KDE
[06:34] <carutsu> its shared on a windows pc
[06:34] <stdin> ctw: you can always just use the tab key to compleat my nick, like std<TAB> goes to stdin :)
[06:35] <ctw> stdin: wow I didn't know that
[06:35] <ctw> stdin: thanks!
[06:35] <stdin> stdin: no problem :)
[06:35] <raylu> [23:30:46]  <raylu> tab ftw!
[06:35] <raylu> :(
[06:36] <ctw> stdin: oh I missed your message about the check at restart
[06:36] <ctw> stdin: will try that out now
[06:37] <raylu> carutsu, are you in administrator mode?
[06:37] <stdin> ctw: you'll be disconnected, and it may ask for user input at the box, so it may not be a good idea right now
[06:38] <ctw> stdin: too late ... oh well I'll have physical access to it tomorrow
[06:38] <ctw> stdin: don't need to stay connected right now
[06:38] <ctw> stdin: let's see if it comes up again
[06:39] <carutsu> yes
[06:39] <stdin> ctw: heh, well at least you have a clue of what may be wrong with it now
[06:39] <carutsu> raylo: yes
[06:39] <raylu> hm...I dunno then
[06:39] <raylu> now that I think about it, I've never actually printed anything with this computer on linux, ever