[18:11] <ioria> yungBLUD,  i really don't know why you don't have those 2 packages .... maybe , at this point, you could miss others
[18:12] <ioria> yungBLUD,  try to install them
[18:13] <yungBLUD> ioria, would i do that just with sudo apt-get install? And what would the package names be?
[18:13] <yungBLUD> ioria, really appreciate you time and help
[18:13] <ioria> yungBLUD,  yes... see above ... update-manager  and software-properties-gtk
[18:15] <iamrohit7> how come i can create a hotspot from debian which i can use on ubuntu with gnome-network-manager but not on ubuntu?
[18:15] <yungBLUD> ioria, update-manager installed but software properties said already newest version
[18:16] <ioria> yungBLUD,  run software-properties-gtk ?
[18:18] <yungBLUD> ioria, Ok i have done that and gone across to additional drivers. it has Nvidia legacy binary drover version 304.125 from nvidia-304 (proprietary) selected
[18:18] <ioria> yungBLUD,  ok
[18:18] <yungBLUD> ioria, would you like a list of the other options?
[18:19] <ioria> yungBLUD,  no, thanks i'm fine
[18:20] <blistov> Anyone here know heaps about ntfsundelete and perhaps be able to explain how $age is determined?
[18:23] <raz_> I would recommend testdisk for data rescue purposes... Its simple and very good
[18:24] <hotarun> where should I go to talk about 15.10
[18:24] <yungBLUD> ioria, does this mean the driver is fine?
[18:25] <ioria> yungBLUD,  which driver ?
[18:25] <ioria> yungBLUD,  for your video card ?
[18:25] <yungBLUD> ioria, yes
[18:25] <ioria> yungBLUD,  can you paste sudo lshw -c video ?
[18:27] <yungBLUD> ioria, paste.ubuntu.com/12544662/
[18:27] <ioria> yungBLUD,  you have an Hybrid laptop intel / nvidia ...
[18:28] <hotarun> so in 15.10 is there no libzip2
[18:28] <yungBLUD> ioria, yes so it should be working ok? So it is using the nvidia and not just the intel?
[18:28] <blistov> raz_: doesn't testdisk just use ntfsundelete ?
[18:28] <yungBLUD> ioria, i have software and updates in my system settings now
[18:29] <ioria> yungBLUD,  good, yes intel is for common tasks and nvidia for heavy tasks ...
[18:29] <yungBLUD> ioria, thats great thanks. My only issue now is my poor wifi and unstable connection. Do you know anything that may help with this?
[18:29] <ioria> yungBLUD,  but you need to install and learn to run nvidia-prime
[18:30] <raz_> blistov: I am not sure, i never checked the "how" :P. I used it professionaly in my Computer Shop to Recover Los Files and it worked every time (except for headcrashes)
[18:30] <ioria> !info nvidia-prime
[18:30] <rafaelsoaresbr> hello, is there a way to install ubuntu in UEFI mode without installing grub?
[18:30] <ioria> yungBLUD,  take a look : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[18:31] <yungBLUD> ioria, oh Ok. I installed nvidia-prime before and my log in screen kept flickering and wouldn't let me log in.
[18:31] <yungBLUD> ioria, i had to ctrl, alt + f1 to remove it and reboot
[18:31] <ioria> yungBLUD,  good..... read the link ... you could have missed something
[18:32] <ioria> yungBLUD,  sorry.... read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[18:32] <jaska__> sub
[18:33] <jaska__> whata u guys think shuld i use gnome or unity?
[18:34] <yungBLUD> ioria, i will do this now. Should i install nvidia-prime, then nvidia-331 and reboot then
[18:35] <ioria> yungBLUD,  to be honest, i don't have an hybrid system ... so i can't tell ... but the tutorial should be fine
[18:36] <jaska__> sudo apt-get install ram to gvet more ram free
[18:36] <jaska__> gg
[18:37] <jaska__> ping is over 9000
[18:37] <jaska__> lagsssss
[18:37] <jaska__> let me just leave
[18:37] <jaska__> lel
[18:38] <jaska__> i am like only one here
[18:38] <jaska__> deez_nuts
[18:42] <yungBLUD> ioria, i have the same issue with the log in screen flashing and not letting me type
[18:43] <ioria> yungBLUD,  open a console and sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[18:43] <ioria> yungBLUD,  with (*)
[18:44] <yungBLUD> ioria, just doing that now. This is what I had to do before.
[18:45] <ioria> yungBLUD,  you still had a nvidia driver installed ....
[18:46] <yungBLUD> ioria, could an update of reinstalled an nvidia driver?
[18:48] <yungBLUD> ioria, if i go to additional drivers now x.org x server is selected
[18:51] <ioria2_> yungBLUD, how it's going ?
[18:51] <Rimann> great
[18:51] <ioria2_> ^_^
[18:51] <yungBLUD> ioria2 i have rebooted and on additional drivers selected another nvidia driver
[18:51] <Rimann> Flash player keeps crashing on firefox though
[18:51] <yungBLUD> ioria2, I'll reboot and see how it works
[18:52] <ioria2_> yungBLUD, good  job
[18:52] <yungBLUD> ioria2, just want to get my Wifi sorted after but not sure where to start with that one.
[18:52] <ioria2_> yungBLUD, first fix you graphics... i'd say
[18:53] <asher128> Rimann, flash on Firefox is VERY old
[18:53] <Rimann> should i be using Chrome?
[18:53] <asher128> Rimann, if you want a faster version of flash (+more stable), use google-chrome
[18:53] <yungBLUD> ioria2, just rebooting
[18:53] <ioria2_> yungBLUD, ok
[18:53] <Rimann> sweet
[18:54] <asher128> Rimann, why not :)
[18:55] <Rimann> i usually use chrom, just installed Ubuntu for first time, been using Firefox just because its pre-installed
[18:55] <asher128> Rimann, or chromium also (but more difficult than google chrome, because you need to install a lot of stuffs separately, like pepper flash player or some codecs for html 5)
[18:55] <asher128> Rimann, ah yeah i understand. But Firefox is VERY VERY slow... :)
[18:55] <yungBLUD> ioria2, same issue, purging again. Think i must have selected the wrong driver from the list.
[18:55] <asher128> Rimann, try chrome and you will see :) the flash on chrome is faster because it is updated (which is not the case of Firefox)
[18:55] <ioria2_> yungBLUD, do you have 331 in the list ?
[18:56] <Rimann> i'll probably stick with Chrome for now, What exactly is chromium? ive seen it in the app directory
[18:56] <asher128> Rimann, chromium is the same source code of google chrome
[18:56] <asher128> Rimann, but :
[18:56] <ROKO__> hello
[18:56] <asher128> Rimann, chromium doesn't contain some non-free modules
[18:56] <ROKO__> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1427330
[18:57] <ROKO__> i have same issue
[18:57] <ROKO__> with lenovo z50-75
[18:57] <ROKO__> fx7500
[18:57] <ROKO__> when notebook is in sleep mode suspend
[18:57] <asher128> Rimann, installing google-chrome is easier (because everything will be built-in : flash and the proprietary codecs for html5)
[18:57] <ROKO__> after wake up cpu work only in 1.1GHz
[18:57] <ROKO__> and doesnt increasing his speed
[18:57] <asher128> Rimann, http://www.howtogeek.com/202825/what%E2%80%99s-the-difference-between-chromium-and-chrome/
[18:58] <ROKO__> must reboot to get back normal work
[18:58] <ROKO__> any ideas?
[18:58] <asher128> ROKO__,  cpufreq?
[18:58] <yungBLUD> ioria2, no, just 346.82, 2 versions of 304.125, 2 versions of 340.76 and one of 346.82. and the x.org
[18:58] <yungBLUD> ioria2 i think i chose 346.82 just
[18:58] <ROKO__> asher128 so i check with cpufreq and cpupower
[18:58] <asher128> ROKO__, command: cpufreq-set -g performance
[18:58] <ROKO__> frequency is only 1.1GHz
[18:58] <asher128> ROKO__, try this
[18:58] <ROKO__> i tried doesnt change frequency
[18:59] <asher128> ROKO__, strang
[18:59] <ROKO__> only change governor to performance but frequency doesnt move from 1.1GHz
[18:59] <asher128> ROKO__, strange. i never had this problem
[18:59] <asher128> ROKO__, what: "lscpu" give you?
[18:59] <ROKO__> is it something specific for lenovo bios ?
[19:00] <asher128> ROKO__, maybe
[19:00] <Rimann> thank you asher
[19:00] <Guest16060> Salve
[19:00] <ROKO__> asher128 http://paste.ubuntu.com/12544997/
[19:00] <Rimann> thank you asher
[19:01] <Rimann> how do I add another chat room?
[19:01] <asher128> ROKO__, you can increase your cpu to 2100 Mhz
[19:01] <asher128> ROKO__, what is the result of "cpufreq-info"
[19:02] <ROKO__> asher128 now i can because i reboot it and dont able to sleep/suspend
[19:02] <foxmolder> rosso malpelo
[19:02] <martinrame> Hi, I added a 2nd IP to a nic, nic is p2p1, then I added p2p1:0 and assigned the 2nd ip. Now, how can I add a route for this 2nd nic?.
[19:03] <foxmolder> http://www.eccoprogram.it/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/rosso_malpelo_1.pdf
[19:03] <foxmolder> http://www.studenti.it/materie/italiano/riassunto-rosso-malpelo.php
[19:03] <foxmolder> Ho cercato "rosso malpelo" (Max 3 U.R.L). BuDuScRiPt Search Engine Version 5.0 - By UDA'Software - [ http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft ]
[19:03] <ROKO__> asher128 http://paste.ubuntu.com/12545020/
[19:03] <martinrame> I tried: sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> p2p1:0, but route -n shows p2p1 and not p2p1:0.
[19:04] <yungBLUD> ioria2 which do you think i should try?
[19:04] <ROKO__> asher128 just for info on windows is same issue..
[19:04] <ROKO__> i forget to mention that
[19:04] <ROKO__> ...
[19:04] <ROKO__> so if on both OS have same issue maybe i have to ask lenovo support
[19:05] <ioria2_> yungBLUD, did you already install nvidia-prime  ?
[19:05] <yungBLUD> ioria, yes but not again since i purged. was that the issue before?
[19:07] <ioria2_> yungBLUD, let prime alone for now... maybe there's something not right with your card ... and the driver
[19:08] <asher128> ROKO__, yeah maybe
[19:08] <ioria2_> yungBLUD, did you install bumblebee ?
[19:08] <asher128> ROKO__, but look
[19:08] <yungBLUD> ioria, i was going to install it before but someone told me it was no longer used due to nvidia-prime and other drivers
[19:08] <asher128> ROKO__, you have the possibility to increase: hardware limits: 1.10 GHz - 2.10 GHz
[19:09] <ioria2_> yungBLUD, so... any nvidia-driver that you select from the gui gives you a login problem ?
[19:09] <ROKO__> asher128 now yes because notebook doesnt go to suspend mode
[19:09] <asher128> ROKO__, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CPU_frequency_scaling#CPU_frequency_driver
[19:10] <ROKO__> but if suspend after resume pstates just doesnt working
[19:10] <yungBLUD> iroia, i haven't tried them all. I will go through them now
[19:10] <asher128> ROKO__, is it the same when you suspend with windows?
[19:10] <yungBLUD> iroia, should i leave legacy ones till last?
[19:10] <yungBLUD> iroia2, should i leave legacy ones till last?
[19:10] <ioria2_> yungBLUD, can you paste ubuntu-drivers list ?
[19:10] <ROKO__> asher128 yes
[19:10] <ROKO__> same
[19:11] <ROKO__> https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-P-Y-and-Z-series/Hey-question-about-my-new-IdeaPad-z50-75-AMD-fx-7500-cpu-do-not/td-p/1801352
[19:11] <ROKO__> http://notebooks.bigresource.com/Lenovo-z50-75-P-Y-Z-series-CPU-do-not-clock-up-on-IdeaPad-4Za5lFnT.html
[19:11] <ROKO__> look report from another user
[19:11] <yungBLUD> ioria, my wifi has just gone again on the laptop... i will type them
[19:11] <ROKO__> i cant open because internet in UK is shit in my region
[19:12] <ioria> yungBLUD, just the final numbers...
[19:12] <yungBLUD> ioria, nvidia-346, -304-updates, -346-updates, -340, -304, -340-updates (all with nvidia infront)
[19:13] <ioria> yungBLUD,  which have you tried ? 346 ?
[19:14] <yungBLUD> ioria, yes
[19:15] <ioria> yungBLUD,  try 304
[19:16] <yungBLUD> ioria, the one with updates or without?
[19:16] <ioria> yungBLUD,  without, for now
[19:17] <HackerII> yeh
[19:17] <HackerII> YEEEEE_HAAAA!
[19:18] <HackerII> sry
[19:20] <yungBLUD> ioria, this one seems ok :)
[19:20] <yungBLUD> ioria, is there anything i should test?
[19:21] <ioria> yungBLUD,  good... not sure you can use prime with 304 :-(
[19:21] <yungBLUD> ioria, do i need to use prime? is that just to switch between the two?
[19:21] <yungBLUD> ioria, if i loaded a game should it use nvidia?
[19:22] <ioria> yungBLUD,  yes... but you can't switch
[19:22] <yungBLUD> ioria, so it is always running on nvidia now?
[19:22] <ioria> yungBLUD,  yes
[19:23] <yungBLUD> ioria, could this cause any issues such as overheating?
[19:23] <ioria> yungBLUD,  yes
[19:23] <ioria> yungBLUD,  consume... i mean
[19:24] <ioria> yungBLUD,  not overheating
[19:24] <yungBLUD> ioria, what do you mean by consume?
[19:24] <SunnySingh> hi guys
[19:24] <ioria> yungBLUD,  your battery
[19:25] <yungBLUD> ioria, ok, shouldn't be too much of an issue as i plug it in most of the time but could switch to windows if i needed it on battery i suppose
[19:25] <SunnySingh> I installed Ubuntu (kinda) on my laptop but at start up I don't get taken to choosing between booting Windows 10 or Ubuntu but rather something called 'GNU GRUB'
[19:26] <yungBLUD> ioria, thanks for all your help, going to look into the wifi issue now!
[19:26] <ioria> yungBLUD,  yes... if you are always plugged your battery will hear that...
[19:27] <SunnySingh> any ideas?
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> yungBLUD  to prevent overheating, install thermald (daemon) and indicator-cpufreq (applet)
[19:28] <sardu> ciao a tutti
[19:30] <SunnySingh> similarly when I put Windows to the top of the boot menu I can choose between Windows 10 and Ubuntu at start up as I'd like but I select Ubuntu and it doesn't work: a screen comes up saying that a file is missing (\ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr) and there is a status (0x000007b)
[19:30] <SunnySingh> whereas I can select to boot Windows 10 just fine
[19:31] <yungBLUD> monkeydust cpufreq wont install :/
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> !find indicator-cpufreq
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> hm
[19:32] <Pici> weird.
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> !find indicator-cpufreq trusty
[19:32] <yungBLUD> monkeydust hold on lol, my wifi dropped again haha thats why
[19:32] <Pici> the bot must have been trying to quit vim
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> yungBLUD  it's there in 14.04, but not in 15.04
[19:32] <yungBLUD> monkeydust im on 14.04, its because my wii dropped again lol sorry
[19:33] <U15Install> Help needed: I installed Ubuntu 15 on my 2nd partition, there is 1404 on 1st. I selected to mount old one as /home and new /. Also new is boot. But still it boots to old U14 from old partition... How to fix this? Only installing U15 on the 1st partition?
[19:34]  * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[19:35] <homojen> hoo ?
[19:37] <ioria> yungBLUD,  you can try the 340 (remember to purge other nvidia  with *) , then  install prime and set Intel it in nvidia-settings ...
[19:40] <SunnySingh> can I get a little help with something?
[19:40] <yungBLUD> ioria, what difference will the other driver make?
[19:41] <ioria> yungBLUD,  under 331 it's hard to get prime working...
[19:42] <yungBLUD> ioria, ill give it a try now
[19:43] <ioria> yungBLUD,  fix your wifi , first
[19:45] <yungBLUD> ioria, i'm reading about wifi now but not sure where to start so i'll leave drivers downloading while i look.
[19:45] <mustmodify> This morning I added memory to two machines sitting next to each other. Since then I have been experiencing intermittent connection failures, though both machines seem to be running fine.  I'm tailing the logs and during the most recent issue, I noticed this: "logopolis kernel: [11031.982884] r8169 0000:02:00.0 p1p1: link down" What does it mean? Google suggests that maybe the nic is bad, which would be unfortunate since it's the onboard one.
[19:45] <mustmodify> or that the drivers are wrong.
[19:46] <ioria> yungBLUD,  first you run sudo lshw -c network and lspci -nn | grep Network ... in this way you identify your card, pciid and driver... then you search the web for issue related to them
[19:48] <yungBLUD> ioria, thanks i'll do that. that driver didnt work by the way so i'll go back to the 304 and leave it at that
[19:48] <ioria> yungBLUD,  what laptop is that ?
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> i wonder why ubottu won't find indicator-cpufreq for 15.04, just installed it
[19:49] <ioria> !info indicator-cpufreq
[19:49] <yungBLUD> ioria, fujitsu lifebook ah532/g21
[19:50] <DammitJim> what should I look at on my ubuntu machine? I can't log on using domain credentials even though I have joined the machine to the domain
[19:50] <DammitJim> when I say log on, I mean through ssh
[19:51] <DammitJim> actually, it doesn't work even when I log on directly to the machine
[19:52] <ioria> yungBLUD,  have to go... i wish you all the best
[19:52] <yungBLUD> ioria, thanks for all your help!
[20:09] <Trest> Torres: test
[20:09] <youcef> s
[20:09] <Trest> x:
[20:09] <ROKO__> test failed
[20:09] <Trest> OMG
[20:16] <yungBLUD> Can anyone assist with poor wifi connection on a centrino wireless -n 2230?
[20:16] <yungBLUD> I can't even see my network at the moment
[20:16] <yungBLUD> Although i can see it using Wicd
[20:19] <yungBLUD> I have tried 11n_disable=8 but no luck
[20:27] <imbcmdth> i think this is the biggest IRC channel
[20:28] <imbcmdth> hello
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> imbcmdth  this is the ubuntu support channel, did you have a question
[20:30] <imbcmdth> yes I did
[20:31] <imbcmdth> i mean I still do
[20:31] <imbcmdth> So I use Lubuntu
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> imbcmdth  kepp your question in one line, that's easier to read and repeat
[20:31] <imbcmdth> does Ubuntu run on a 64 bit CPU with 2 GB RAM and just  Intel GMA graphics?
[20:32] <teward> imbcmdth: it should.  it may be a little slower.   Thanks guys
[20:33] <wileee> imbcmdth, xubuntu might be the best between.
[20:34] <imbcmdth> I have no dedicated graphics. will xubuntu run smoothly? 64-bit?
[20:34] <jr_> I turned my computer off and now I think ubuntu doesnt detect the wifi card. What should I do?
[20:35] <wileee> imbcmdth, should, it is your definition of  'smoothly' how you use it in general.  Also I have two batteries, one is internal and cant be removed
[20:41] <jswe> hi guys - the nvidia drivers aren't playing ball with my system and i can't even log in. Is there a  way i can change back to default drivers thru a live cd?
[20:41] <wileee> jswe, You can work from the tty command line, ctrl-alt-f1
[20:42] <wileee> at login in
[20:42] <jswe> wileee: ty but i can't even get that far
[20:42] <jswe> command line goes blank also
[20:42] <EriC^^> jr_: turning it off as usual, removing the battery, holding the power button for a few seconds while its out maybe, and then putting the battery back in and starting the pc
[20:42] <wileee> jswe, try the recovery in the grub menu, a live is a chroot is all, not the easiest move.
[20:43] <jswe> Thanks wileee will try..
[20:44] <du_> anybody knows is there is any command to display ppl joining and leaving in irssi ?
[20:44] <du_> i mean un-display
[20:45] <EriC^^> !quietirc | du_
[20:45] <wileee> jswe, I'm not up on nvidia and it's control at boot, not sure but a nomodeset might be fine from grub. Common drivers however good help here in general.
[20:46] <jswe> wileee: i agree - after 3 reformats i've isolated the issue to proprietary drivers.
[20:46] <Rafen> So I recall adding some CLI tool (htop???), but now I cant remember the command. Is there a quick way to find out what CLI tool I installed (some time ago)?
[20:47] <jswe> wileee, can you remind me the command to access grub on boot? ctrl+alt+f1 tries to use the display drivers and disappears after 2 seconds :/
[20:47] <Rafen> @jswe I had same problem, I re-installed ubuntu and did the update via adding a repository I think. I tried d/l the drivers manually and got that blank screen like 3 times
[20:47] <jswe> Rafen: strange - i've done the reverse (thru repo) and had nothing but problems
[20:48] <wileee> jswe, shift if msdos and esc for uefi I believe to see grub
[20:48] <jswe> thanks
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> Rafen  type 'sudo apt' and then the up key, until you find the command you need
[20:48] <Rafen> let me see if I can find the link I used to guide me.
[20:48] <Rafen> thanks MonkeyDust
[20:49] <Rafen> wait Moneky
[20:49] <Rafen> That recalls previous commands, but I installed this cli tool/command weeks ago
[20:49] <Rafen> I recall having to do a sudo apt-get to install this basic tool to monitor network traffic
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> Rafen  less ~/.bash_history
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> Rafen  but thazt won't show more history than ctrl-r
[20:51] <EriC^^> Rafen: less /var/log/apt/history.log
[20:53] <Rafen> here is the link I used to update nvidia drivers. http://www.binarytides.com/install-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-14-04/
[20:54] <Rainbow_Warrior> At which point at a normal socket call does the client the DNS-Request?
[20:54] <jswe> why do i only get a command line with grub ;_; not even a recovery-mode option?
[20:54] <daftykins> grub rescue?
[20:54] <Rafen> @ jswe at that point I gave up and formated :)
[20:54] <daftykins> because it's misconfigured most likely
[20:55] <jswe> haha i could of just reformatted in the time i've spent trying to change drivers from grub
[20:56] <rpm_33> hello, I can't delete a file in /usr/share/applications
[20:56] <jswe> Rafen, did you ever get proprietary drivers working?
[20:56] <cocosushi> did you try as root ?
[20:56] <EriC^^> jswe: do you get a grub menu when you hold shift?
[20:56] <cocosushi> sorry @rpm_33 did you try as root ?
[20:57] <EriC^^> ( as the pc first boots )
[20:57] <jswe> @EriC^^: no, goes to logo
[20:57] <EriC^^> jswe: the ubuntu logo?
[20:57] <Rafen> Using Nvidia driver 340.76 Per Nvidia X Server settings
[20:58] <jswe> @EriC^^:  yep
[20:58] <ZuZuD_> Hi everyone
[20:58] <daftykins> hi
[20:58] <ZuZuD_> I need some help to BootPXE UEFI my Ubntu 14.04
[20:58] <EriC^^> jswe: how are you getting a grub prompt then? O.o
[20:58] <daftykins> err, why PXE?
[20:58] <jswe> @EriC^^:  Esc
[20:58] <espartanog> lol
[20:58] <espartanog> hola
[20:58] <daftykins> ZuZuD_: err, why PXE?
[20:59] <espartanog> lol
[20:59] <ZuZuD_> I'm using grub2 to load my ubuntu installer, but it seems to failed to create my EFI partition (vfat) and then grub won't install
[20:59] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, do you have a live usb?
[20:59] <jswe> @EriC^^:  Correct, ready to go:)
[20:59] <ZuZuD_> because i need to install remotely
[20:59] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:00] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/PXE-netboot-install
[21:00] <jswe> @EriC^^:  What does that do?
[21:00] <EriC^^> jswe: pastebins the partition table and gives a link back
[21:01] <ZuZuD_> Any idea?
[21:01] <jswe> @EriC^^:  Thanks, just checking
[21:01] <EriC^^> np
[21:03] <jswe> @EriC^^:  It didm;t like the -1 option
[21:03] <jswe> *didn't
[21:03] <daftykins> ZuZuD_: why remotely?
[21:03] <EriC^^> jswe: it's a small L
[21:04] <jswe> haha! thanks
[21:04] <ZuZuD_> because they are many daftykins  !
[21:04] <jswe> EriC^^:  http://termbin.com/kcvo
[21:04] <jswe> what a nifty tool
[21:05] <EriC^^> jswe: yeah, very handy
[21:05] <EriC^^> jswe: is your ubuntu encrypted?
[21:06] <jswe> EriC^^:  90% sure its not
[21:06] <jswe> this is fresh install from tonight
[21:06] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, type sudo apt-get install lvm2
[21:07] <jswe> EriC^^:  yup
[21:08] <EriC^^> jswe: type sudo vgchange -ay
[21:08] <jswe> EriC^^:  oke cool
[21:09] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, type sudo lvscan | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:09] <jswe> EriC^^:  http://termbin.com/cs6y
[21:10] <elaleph> I install numix icons in ubuntu 15.04. Numix circle are working, but numix standard aren't. What can I do?
[21:11] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, type sudo mount /dev/ubuntu-gnome-vg/root /mnt
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> !cosmetics
[21:11] <k1l> elaleph: iirc numix is payware. so please ask the numix guys if you happen to have issues
[21:12] <elaleph> ok, thanks
[21:12] <jswe> EriC^^:  thanks - done
[21:12] <ZuZuD_> So Nobody on PXE UEFI ?
[21:14] <daftykins> ZuZuD_: have you used https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/PXE-netboot-install ?
[21:14] <EriC^^> jswe: type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[21:14] <daftykins> you should try and obtain logs to show why your installs fail
[21:14] <EriC^^> jswe: the whole line from for i til ; done is the command
[21:15] <joeman1> hello... having trouble starting docker on my Ubuntu 12.04.05 system. Getting Module br_netfilter not found. any ideas - kernel is 3.13.0-63-generic.
[21:15] <jswe> EriC^^:  ok thanks giving it a shot now
[21:16] <ZuZuD_> daftykins: yes i read it
[21:16] <daftykins> so, logs of your failed install attempts?
[21:16] <ZuZuD_> No problem with all that
[21:16] <jswe> EriC^^:  didn't log anything back so i guess its all good hehe
[21:16] <ZuZuD_> Just failed with preseed
[21:16] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, sounds good
[21:17] <EriC^^> jswe: type sudo chroot /mnt
[21:17] <ZuZuD_> It's like my ubuntu installer won't create my EFI partition
[21:17] <jswe> EriC^^:  nice! I'm in
[21:17] <ZuZuD_> so it failed on installing grub :(
[21:17] <Jay_> hi there!
[21:17] <EriC^^> jswe: so what was installed before and what driver did you try out?
[21:17] <daftykins> ZuZuD_: is there anything existing already on the disk(s)?
[21:17] <Jay_> is there any support for HP P840 RAID in 14.04?
[21:18] <daftykins> Jay_: what's that cards lspci entry?
[21:18] <ZuZuD_> daftykins: yeah maybe something already exist, i've tried many install
[21:18] <jswe> EriC^^:  I had the default nouveau drivers installed - then i tried nvidia graphics 346 via the software updater
[21:19] <daftykins> ZuZuD_: try dd'ing the first 10MB with zeroes then try again, that'll get rid of any partition table
[21:19] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, type apt-get purge nvidia*
[21:20] <jswe> EriC^^:  done. should i give it a reboot?
[21:20] <ZuZuD_> daftykins: maybe there is ubuntu installer version where EFI part is not available ?
[21:20] <EriC^^> jswe: not yet, type apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[21:20] <daftykins> ZuZuD_: as in you want to try avoiding it and installing legacy?
[21:20] <Jay_> currently i do not have access to the box - 3   PCI-Express Gen3      8x/x8           8 GB/sec        Smart Array P840 Controller is the boot read - will have to get the pci entry in a few hours once i have access
[21:21] <nicomachus> daftykins or EriC^^: is screenfetch in any of the repos? the github page lists it as being in the default repos >14.04, but it's not in any of my repos on 15.04 (or Mint 17, for that matter)
[21:21] <ZuZuD_> I can't install legacy
[21:21] <YamakasY> can I see in some way when php is updated for the last time on my server ?
[21:21] <jswe> EriC^^:   "unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"
[21:21] <daftykins> !find screenfetch trusty
[21:21] <daftykins> nicomachus: search on packages.ubuntu.com
[21:21] <daftykins> ZuZuD_: in my experience that's never true, but i didn't know what you meant
[21:22] <k1l> YamakasY: look at the logs in /var/log/apt/
[21:22] <EriC^^> jswe: type exit, then reboot
[21:22] <YamakasY> k1l: no other options ?
[21:22] <EriC^^> jswe: oh, try apt-get -f install
[21:22] <jswe> EriC^^:   is there a command that will upload this terminal session to a paste bin, for later study?
[21:22] <jswe> ok thx
[21:22] <ZuZuD_> daftykins: i've got a 4TB system on RAID10 system
[21:22] <nicomachus> daftykins: no result.
[21:23] <daftykins> nicomachus: guess it's a no then
[21:23] <daftykins> ZuZuD_: right but you said you were EFI installing a large set of PXE clients, they can't all have that RAID...
[21:23] <daftykins> also, if you were sensible you would not try and boot from that RAID :)
[21:23] <daftykins> always better keeping the OS away
[21:24] <k1l> YamakasY: or look at the changelogs from that specific packages you want
[21:24] <Jay_> daftykins : do not have the pci info
[21:24] <YamakasY> k1l: yeah, found it thanks
[21:24] <EriC^^> jswe: yeah, you can press edit > select all, then go to paste.ubuntu.com and paste it there
[21:25] <Amoz> nicomachus, what version are you running?
[21:25] <jswe> EriC^^:   haha okay thanks ^^... rebooting now
[21:25] <daftykins> Jay_: can't offer you anything more than to google then
[21:26] <gharzc> hi guys. i am running on virtualbox. was doing an application update/upgrade and i accidental shutdown the vm. it boots but it doesn't go to the log in page. it just plain pitch black and a mouse cursor. is there a way i can fix the system like a safe mode? please help. thank you.
[21:26] <Amoz> nicomachus, because it's right here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/screenfetch
[21:26] <Jay_> k, tx daftykins
[21:26] <ZuZuD_> daftykins: i can't I need I/O for the OS
[21:26] <ZuZuD_> specific use
[21:26] <daftykins> SSD :>
[21:27] <daftykins> ZuZuD_: well, whatever way you want to do it, it makes no sense to me why you want to PXE boot install such a specific server setup
[21:27] <daftykins> you can't be telling me you have rows and rows of these same configs ;)
[21:27] <jswe> EriC^^:   Thank you so much. You've taught me a valuable skill
[21:29] <ZuZuD_> daftykins: lol i have
[21:29] <ZuZuD_> but i can't tell you more
[21:29] <ZuZuD_> and that not why i'm here
[21:29] <EriC^^> jswe: no problem :)
[21:30] <dj_who> hi all
[21:30] <dj_who> can anyone help with ubuntu and wine?
[21:30] <daftykins> ZuZuD_: that sounds somewhat ridiculous, but anyway as i've said without logs of the failed install you're not going to get anywhere - so try the 'dd' i mentioned and see if makes any difference - then come back with logs if it doesn't work
[21:30] <daftykins> dj_who: ask the question
[21:31] <dj_who> i have problem with older games and new wine
[21:31] <tgm4883> dj_who: that... isn't a question either
[21:31] <tgm4883> it's a statement
[21:31] <dj_who> some games starts but some kind of freezing appears
[21:31] <jswe> EriC^^:   There is some weird stuff going on with the display tho, fonts, colours, window backgrounds. could this be from the driver reinstalling incorrectly?
[21:31] <tgm4883> similiar to "I like cheeseburgers"
[21:31] <daftykins> still a statement :)
[21:32] <daftykins> dj_who: where are you and where do you want to be?
[21:32] <tgm4883> A question usually has a question mark on the end and makes your voice go up when you say it
[21:32] <EriC^^> jswe: hmm, i have no idea, try the guest account to see if it's a user config issue
[21:32] <tgm4883> like "Shaggy?" and "Yea Scooby?"
[21:32] <dj_who> game is "unfreezyng" if i press alt+tab
[21:33] <jswe> EriC^^:  Okay, no worries cheers
[21:33] <daftykins> dj_who: you're still not asking a question :(
[21:33] <EriC^^> haha
[21:33] <tgm4883> You can even have a statement, then follow up with a question. Such as "daftykins , I like cheeseburgers, how about you?"
[21:34]  * daftykins is getting hungry despite just having eaten
[21:34] <EriC^^> jswe: did you try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nouveau after apt-get -f install?
[21:35] <dj_who> how to solve given problem (question is obvious)
[21:35] <jswe> EriC^^:  negative, i might try it again now. However it only seems to be the 'dark theme' doing this. Still annoying tho
[21:35]  * jswe shuns his eyes
[21:36] <daftykins> dj_who: not without a game title it's not, also go talk to #winehq
[21:36] <dj_who> i'm guesing it can be unity  fault
[21:36] <dj_who> hitman 1
[21:36] <dj_who> indiana jones and the infernal machine
[21:36] <daftykins> !wine
[21:36] <k1l> !wine | dj_who
[21:37] <daftykins> please try in the relevant channels above
[21:37] <k1l> dj_who: and see the wine app database what to do for those games to work
[21:39] <EriC^> jswe: did you get my last msg about lspci?
[21:40] <tgm4883> dj_who: I suppose you could maybe script a cron job to hit alt+tab for you
[21:40] <jswe> EriC^^:  Sorry i didn't... i haven't seen anything regarding lspci
[21:41] <EriC^> jswe: ok, type lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA
[21:41] <EriC^^> jswe: type lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA
[21:41] <EriC^^> what's it say for driver in use?
[21:41] <EriC^> oh wow..
[21:42] <daftykins> there's two Erics O_O
[21:42] <jswe> EriC^^:  kernel driver in use: nouveau
[21:43] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, looks good, try to reinstall it though
[21:43] <jswe> EriC^^:  i just did and got the same 'unmet dependencies' issue. googling now
[21:44] <EriC^^> jswe: type sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nouveau | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:44] <de_fact0> Is there any way to make a backup of my Ubuntu partition that captures my applications, drivers, various packages, and system preferences without it being an actual disk image? So that it can be put on a partition of a different size?
[21:45] <bekks> !backup | de_fact0
[21:45] <bekks> de_fact0: "Yes." :)
[21:45] <jswe> EriC^^:  http://termbin.com/nail
[21:45] <de_fact0> thanks bekks, do you have any particular favorites?
[21:46] <bekks> de_fact0: Depending on the particular use case, I'M using tar, rsync, rdiff backup, LVM snapshots or Areca Backup.
[21:46] <hetii> Hi
[21:46] <hetii> Is there any limitation to install by installer ubuntu server 15.04 on usb drive ?
[21:47] <bekks> hetii: Which limitation do you have in mind?
[21:47] <hetii> cause installer stop on "instalation system" after partitioning system
[21:47] <EriC^^> jswe: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:47] <bekks> hetii: How long did you wait?
[21:47] <hetii> on dmesg I see just  mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts:  errors=remount-ro
[21:47] <bekks> hetii: Thats normal.
[21:48] <hetii> bekks: I don`t wait its show up at 1%
[21:48] <bekks> hetii: So wait, if you didnt wait. :)
[21:48] <hetii> that I cannot continue cause of erros
[21:48] <bekks> hetii: Which errors?
[21:48] <jswe> EriC^^:  http://termbin.com/frra - weird, it only output to term bin and not to my console :/
[21:48] <hetii> installer don`t show that
[21:48] <bekks> hetii: Then how do you know there are errors?
[21:49] <jswe> EriC^^:  should i install?
[21:49] <EriC^^> jswe: oh, yeah
[21:49] <hetii> bekks: Installer show up a message that he cannot continue cause some errors happen but don`t provide any additional information about it
[21:49] <hetii> maybe its just becasue my language that I select (PL) is not supported fully by installer
[21:50] <bekks> hetii: So take a look at the terminal at alt+f2, f3, f4, to see what happened.
[21:50] <hetii> but will try run it again with english version to see if got some additional info
[21:51] <jswe> EriC^^:  seems like that one went all good :)
[21:52] <EriC^^> jswe: cool :)
[21:52] <EriC^^> try restarting
[21:53] <nicomachus> Amoz: I'm on 15.04.
[21:54] <ZuZuD_> I think ive found my problem
[21:55] <nicomachus> but: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12546656/
[21:56] <hetii> bekks: ok as I see on other console the error is "Could not find any live images"
[21:56] <jswe> EriC^^: we're back to square one :(
[21:56] <hetii> I put iso on my pendrive via unetbootin
[21:57] <jswe> EriC^^: no display on boot
[21:57] <nicomachus> Amoz: there's conflicting info everywhereeeee. going to try to contact the dv on Rizon.
[21:57] <hetii> form with I start installation
[21:57] <bekks> hetii: Which Ubuntu do you use?
[21:57] <nicomachus> s/dv/dev
[21:57] <hetii> bekks: This one http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/ubuntu-15.04-server-amd64.iso
[21:58] <bekks> hetii: Then you can use dd to put it onto the usb, you dont need unetbootin. And whats the target of the install, your harddisk?
[21:58] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, boot the live usb again
[21:59] <hetii> bekks: what bs should I use when use dd ?
[21:59] <EriC^^> jswe: the nouveau one wants xserver-xorg-core, but you have the xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid one, so it removed the lts-vivid ones to install it
[21:59] <jswe> EriC^^: okay I'm back in
[21:59] <bekks> hetii: Something like 16M
[21:59] <hetii> bekks: finaly I will install on external usb 3.0 drive.
[21:59] <jswe> EriC^^: ah right
[22:00] <EriC^^> jswe: sudo apt-get install lvm2
[22:00] <jswe> EriC^^:  i'll repeat the process from before and stop at the reinstall/uninstall bit
[22:01] <hetii> bekks: 16M not to high ??
[22:01] <EriC^^> jswe: ok
[22:01] <bekks> hetii: No.
[22:01] <bekks> hetii: Lower it, if you want to wait longer for dd to finish :)
[22:01] <hetii> ::)
[22:03] <jswe> EriC^^:  cool, I'm there. what should i purge now?
[22:03] <EriC^^> jswe: try grep -m1 vmlinuz /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:04] <hetii> bekks: ok md5sum checked and its fine, so dd is in progress
[22:04] <EriC^^> jswe: i think if you use the non lts-vivid kernel it might work
[22:05] <jswe> EriC^^:  weird. no such directory on /boot/grub/grub.cvg
[22:05] <jswe> must be something seriously wrong with my grub
[22:05] <EriC^^> jswe: are you in the chroot?
[22:05] <jswe> yes
[22:05] <EriC^^> ah
[22:05] <EriC^^> we didn't mount /boot
[22:05] <EriC^^> type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot
[22:05] <jswe> ah
[22:06] <jswe> EriC^^:  "mount point /mnt/boot does not exist"
[22:06] <EriC^^> jswe: sorry
[22:06] <EriC^^> jswe: i had a typo
[22:06] <jswe> nps
[22:06] <hetii> skopiowane 645922816 bajtów (646 MB), 91,2384 s, 7,1 MB/s
[22:06] <EriC^^> type mount /dev/sda2 /boot
[22:06] <EriC^^> ( 2 not 1 0
[22:07] <jswe> EriC^^:  got it :)
[22:07] <stankystink> jswe: you
[22:07] <jswe> EriC^^:  grep worked
[22:07] <EriC^^> ok, try grep -m1 vmlinuz /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:07] <EriC^^> cool, which kernel is it?
[22:07] <EriC^^> 3.19?
[22:08] <jswe> yup
[22:09] <stankystink> jswe: next u can get it
[22:09] <EriC^^> ok, type apt-get purge linux-generic-lts-vivid
[22:10] <jswe> EriC^^:  "unable to locate package linux-generic-lts-vivid" :S
[22:10] <stankystink> jswe: Trojan
[22:10] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, type dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:11] <k1l> stankystink: any helpful from your side?
[22:12] <the_count> Uh oh... My mouse/cursor gave up the ghost... It apperrs for a second on bootup and then on login but then quickly disappears.
[22:12] <jswe> EriC^^:  http://termbin.com/qmz1
[22:12] <stankystink> k1l: what
[22:13] <jswe> kll: thank you. he's still sending my abusive PM's tho
[22:13] <EriC^^> jswe: which ubuntu do you have?
[22:13] <jswe> gnome on 14.04
[22:13] <Keroshin> Hi, I'm unable to install anymore software due to a system program problem.
[22:14] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, try apt-get purge linux-image-generic-lts-vivid
[22:14] <Keroshin> Something to do with dependencies.
[22:14] <the_count> Bashing-om, maybe you could help if you don't mind me bothering you again
[22:14] <EriC^^> jswe: and apt-get purge linux-image-3.19.0-{25,28}-generic
[22:15] <jswe> EriC^^: what does that do? its removing a lot of things no?
[22:15] <EriC^^> jswe: did you run it? if not hold on
[22:15] <jswe> not the second one.
[22:15] <EriC^^> ok, good
[22:16] <jswe> oops:S hehe
[22:16] <zykotick9> Keroshin: i'd suggest posting the output of "sudo apt-get -f install" to paste.ubuntu.com
[22:16] <EriC^^> after it's done type dpkg -l | grep linux-image and check which kernel is there
[22:17] <jswe> so run the purge on linux-image-3.19.0.... ?
[22:17] <EriC^^> noo
[22:17] <jswe> ok cool
[22:17] <Keroshin> Okay.  I've done that before but I'm not root admin.  This comp used to belong to a school.
[22:17] <Keroshin> But I'll try again
[22:18] <jswe> EriC^^:  still 3.19
[22:18] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, type apt-get install linux-generic
[22:18] <jswe> EriC^^:  ok:) d/ling
[22:19] <EriC^^> ok, cool :)
[22:19] <Keroshin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12546920/
[22:21] <jswe> EriC^^:  okay we good.
[22:22] <zykotick9> Keroshin: well, this seems to be the same error at http://askubuntu.com/questions/664196/apt-get-install-f-got-the-error-message i'm not clear what's going wrong though...
[22:24] <Keroshin> Yeah I'm not sure either.  It's a broken dependency or something.  I'm not sure if I need to reinstall ubuntu or not.  I'm having trouble accessing my boot menu to do so.
[22:24] <the_count> rOr does anyone know how to fix a mouse which has disappeared?
[22:25] <griffrez_> Hello! I have Ubuntu 15.04 installed and I got a networking issue. Ubuntu detects my Ethernet adapter correctly, detects my network exists, but it keeps trying and trying to connect to it, but never with result. It's just stuck there. Thanks for any help.
[22:25] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, type apt-get purge linux-image-3.19.0-{25,28}-generic
[22:27] <wileee> griffrez_, look for that hardware by running lspci and include in your inquiry.
[22:27] <jswe> EriC^^:  no worries. done
[22:27] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, cool
[22:27] <EriC^^> type exit and try to reboot
[22:27] <jswe> ok thanks will do
[22:27] <Salambo> hi, is there any WeeChat apparmor profile available by any chance?
[22:28] <griffrez_> wileee, the relevant device to the problem is: 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (2) I218-V (rev 05)
[22:29] <jswe> EriC^^:  loots of errors haha
[22:29] <EriC^^> jswe: oh
[22:30] <jswe> EriC^^:  can't boot. a [fail] on starting gnome display manager
[22:30] <hetii> bekks: ok after dd I was able to install system without any issue, thx:>
[22:30] <wileee> griffrez_, include this, not sure myself. https://askubuntu.com/questions/677249/ethernet-adapter-is-recognized-but-isnt-able-to-connect
[22:30] <EriC^^> jswe: can you press ctrl+alt+f1?
[22:30] <jswe> yep
[22:30] <EriC^^> cool
[22:30] <jswe> logged in
[22:30] <the_count> I am running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS with the 3.19.0-28-generic kernel, and Today the cursor disapeared after starting up to computer. The only things which may have caused it are: holding down the power button to shut off(it was taking way way much more time than it normally takes, not the best practice, yes... But unlikely in my mind to cause an issue, and autoremove pachages which I don't think hurt anything)
[22:31] <griffrez_> wileee, what do you mean by including? That askubuntu post was me, indeed, if that's what you're asking.
[22:32] <griffrez_> Hello! I have Ubuntu 15.04 installed and I got a networking issue. Ubuntu detects my Ethernet adapter correctly, detects my network exists, but it keeps trying and trying to connect to it, but never with result. It's just stuck there. Thanks for any help. AskUbuntu post with some information on the issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/677249/ethernet-adapter-is-recognized-but-isnt-able-to-connect
[22:32] <wileee> griffrez_, Could it be the phone? Yes the link, it has more info that would be used.
[22:32] <Keroshin> zykotick9 I tried what it said to do and I still can't install anything
[22:32] <griffrez_> wileee, as I've said on that post, the issue exists before connecting the phone.
[22:32] <the_count> Keroshin: What's your problem?
[22:33] <griffrez_> wileee, and after, of course.
[22:33] <zykotick9> Keroshin: sorry, i don't personally have any suggestions... good luck.
[22:33] <EriC^^> ok, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-core libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx
[22:33] <wileee> griffrez_, ah, cool, not sure here, does not sound like your interrupting the link with a proxy...etc.
[22:33] <EriC^^> jswe: ^
[22:33] <jswe> EriC^^:  kernel says 3.13 btw
[22:33] <jswe> EriC^^:  ok thanks
[22:33] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[22:33] <pdanek> Does Ubuntu phone have SElinux or apparmor running by default please?
[22:34] <k1l> pdanek: iirc yes. but better ask in #ubuntu-touch
[22:35] <griffrez_> wileee, it's also like this on the installer, so it's a problem from scratch. I've done no configurations at all.
[22:35] <jswe> EriC^^:  reboot?
[22:35] <EriC^^> jswe: also try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg
[22:35] <Keroshin> the_count : I'm unable to install anything due to a system program error I posted the results of -f install on this link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12546920/ and tried what it said on askubuntu about it and it's not working.
[22:36] <EriC^^> jswe: yes
[22:36] <jswe> EriC^^:  done.
[22:36] <jswe> EriC^^:  ok thx
[22:36] <pdanek> k1l thx
[22:36] <Keroshin> Says something about unmet dependencies.
[22:37] <wileee> griffrez_, how about wifi?
[22:37] <jswe> EriC^^:  still no boot, same error
[22:37] <jswe> *fail
[22:38] <griffrez_> wileee, it's a desktop system without Wi-Fi capabilities.
[22:38] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, press ctrl+alt+f1, then type sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:39] <jswe> EriC^^:  http://termbin.com/bx03
[22:41] <the_count> Keroshin: Try, sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-extra-3.13.0-63-generic_3.13.0-63.103_i386.deb
[22:42]  * zykotick9 wonders what ubuntu used 3.13
[22:42] <EriC^^> jswe: type uname -r
[22:43] <the_count> Keroshin: That should ignore the problem, and then you can go from there
[22:43] <jswe> EriC^^:  3.13.0-63-generic
[22:44] <Keroshin> Ok
[22:45] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, type ls -l /var/log/gdm | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:45] <Keroshin> No such file or directory
[22:45] <griffrez_> Hello! I have Ubuntu 15.04 installed and I got a networking issue. Ubuntu detects my Ethernet adapter correctly, detects my network exists, but it keeps trying and trying to connect to it, but never with result. It's just stuck there. Thanks for any help. AskUbuntu post with some information on the issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/677249/ethernet-adapter-is-recognized-but-isnt-able-to-connect
[22:46] <jswe> EriC^^:  permission denied on /gdm :(
[22:47] <EriC^^> jswe: oh, try sudo ls -l /var/log/gdm | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:47] <the_count> Keroshin: I typed that by hand, verify the filename with the link you posted
[22:47] <jswe> oh ja of course zzz
[22:47] <jswe> EriC^^:  http://termbin.com/6pyr
[22:48] <Keroshin> one moment
[22:48] <jswe> key arabic in my logs
[22:48] <jswe> *kek
[22:49] <EriC^^> jswe: is there a gdm.log file when you type sudo ls -l /var/log/gdm ?
[22:49] <the_count> Anyone have expertise in fixing missing cursors in Ubuntu?
[22:50] <jswe> EriC^^:  yes of course
[22:50] <EriC^^> jswe: ok, cool, type sudo cat /var/log/gdm/gdm.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:51] <robert__> Sup lads
[22:51] <jswe> EriC^^:  no such file :(
[22:51] <daftykins> and ladies
[22:51] <robert__> My apologies
[22:51] <Keroshin> I tried the name from the paste but still says no such file or directory.  Ugh..so frustrating
[22:52] <chachin> what's the best znc version for ubuntu so far?
[22:52] <jswe> EriC^^:  was there a typo in that? /var/log/gdm/gdm.log ?
[22:52] <Keroshin> I'm gonna eat dinner
[22:53] <EriC^^> jswe: *shrug*
[22:53] <the_count> Keroshin: Try this one, I'm sure it is right: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-extra-3.13.0-63-generic_3.13.0-63.103_i386.deb
[22:53] <EriC^^> jswe: try sudo service gdm restart and see if it mentions any error
[22:54] <jswe> EriC^^:  no error
[22:54] <tripelb> L
[22:54] <jswe> feel free to throw in the towel
[22:54] <EriC^^> jswe: does it open the login screen?
[22:54] <jswe> no it just says
[22:55] <jswe> stop: unknown instance:
[22:55] <EriC^^> jswe: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdm
[22:56] <jswe> EriC^^:  we back to the login screen :)
[22:56] <jswe> whew
[22:57] <EriC^^> cool! :)
[22:58] <jswe> EriC^^:  Thank you. Should i be reinstalling/changing anything to get other things back to normal?
[22:58] <jswe> i've lost track of what we did
[22:59] <griffrez_> Hello! I have Ubuntu 15.04 installed and I got a networking issue. Ubuntu detects my Ethernet adapter correctly, detects my network exists, but it keeps trying and trying to connect to it, but never with result. It's just stuck there. Thanks for any help. AskUbuntu post with some information on the issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/677249/ethernet-adapter-is-recognized-but-isnt-able-to-connect
[22:59] <EriC^^> jswe: i dont think so
[23:00] <the_count> griffrez: That is not going to help anything, resending what you have already said
[23:00] <jswe> EriC^^:  Thanks dude. I guess I'm pretty cornered when it comes to graphics drivers then, huh?
[23:01] <daftykins> griffrez_: does it work in the live session of the media you installed from?
[23:01] <EriC^^> jswe: hmm, there are some stuff that it removed that seem kind of odd, like gnome-control-center
[23:01] <the_count> griffrez_ You can see the link halfway up the page
[23:01] <EriC^^> jswe: this is the list of stuff it removed in case it comes in handy http://termbin.com/frra
[23:02] <jswe> ah yeah, it removed the steam libraries and such
[23:02] <jswe> thanks
[23:02] <the_count> Keroshin: Whenever, I've got a solution for you... when you get done with supper
[23:02] <jswe> "cheese empathy gem" haha
[23:02] <jswe> *gdm
[23:03] <EriC^^> haha
[23:04] <hetii> Hi
[23:04] <hetii> Q: How I can escape this to shell script: echo "OUTPUT=\`xrandr -display :0 -q | sed '/ connected/!d;s/ .*//;q'\`"
[23:05] <hetii> This !d paste some last command
[23:05] <the_count> Hey you all, I have a broken cursor problem, when I last logged in, The cursor appeared for a second and then disapeared.... I am left cursorless
[23:05] <hetii> I try escape it by \\ but without success
[23:06] <lehzm> ubuntu 15.10 beta torrents get pulled?
[23:06] <lehzm> getting errors on my torrents about authorization
[23:07] <debdeb> Hi there. How can I edit the gthumb options? I am seeing no button or menu for that
[23:07] <daftykins> lehzm: #ubuntu+1
[23:08] <lehzm> thanks
[23:08] <deadmund> My computer reboots instead of shutting down.  Any ideas?
[23:09] <daftykins> logs
[23:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: You around?
[23:09] <deadmund> daftykins: which one would you like?
[23:10] <deadmund> daftykins: I've looked and can't find anything.
[23:10] <daftykins> i don't want any :) they should help you though
[23:11] <the_count> :D
[23:13] <pc_> im trying to install win7 using yumi, but appears "No default or UI configuration directive found". on the line below "boot:". i used unetbootin but a blank screen appears. i really need help. what can i type to boot the win7 installation?
[23:13] <the_count> daftykins: Do you know anything about fixing a broken/missing cursor
[23:13] <ikonia> pc_: not really an ubuntu issue
[23:14] <wileee> pc_, There is a windows usb loader.
[23:15] <wileee> from MS
[23:15] <nug700> join #csharp
[23:15] <daftykins> pc_: that's not an ubuntu Q :)
[23:15] <nug700> oops
[23:16] <daftykins> the_count: you're gonna have to give a bit more background
[23:16] <pc_> ikonia: i'm just want make the usb bootable and i'm using ubuntu
[23:16] <Bashing-om> the_count: I just am .. just in time to see .
[23:16] <ikonia> pc_: not really an ubuntu issue
[23:17] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok... The cursor has completely disappeared at system strtup as of today, last time it worded was before I held down the power button to shut my computer off
[23:18] <the_count> Bashing-om, daftykins: Otherwise, I have no clue
[23:18] <pc_> wileee: which one?
[23:19] <pc_> ikonia: is it against the rules help someone who is trying to install windows?
[23:19] <daftykins> the_count: guest account work?
[23:20] <the_count> daftykins: I'll try now
[23:20] <the_count> pc_: Try ##windows
[23:20] <the_count> pc_: There is a helpful group of people there.
[23:20] <Bashing-om> the_count: Interrupted shut down always calls for a file system check/repair ; if still a problem exist, one starts reading log files ..
[23:20] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok
[23:21] <Bashing-om> the_count: You recall how to run a file system check from the liveDVD ?
[23:21] <wileee> pc_, https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/windows-usb-dvd-download-tool  that is all I can do here.
[23:21] <pc_> the_count: ok. i just tought it was a compatibility issue an somebody here could help me
[23:22] <the_count> Bashing-om: I have no DVD drive
[23:22] <Bashing-om> the_count: liveUSB works as well .
[23:23] <the_count> Bashing-om: I don't have on imediately avaliable at the moment
[23:23] <du_> What mail client you guys use to stop NSA cucking in your mails?
[23:23] <Spec> lol^
[23:24] <the_count> I've got nothing to hide
[23:24] <weatherman> thunderbird
[23:24] <ikonia> the client is nothing to do with how external people access your mail
[23:24] <ikonia> it's snooped on the wire
[23:24] <ikonia> so you're client does not matter
[23:24] <k1l> du_: its not about the client. its about the servers involved an if you encrypt the messages or not
[23:24] <orfeo> hello folks
[23:25] <weatherman> encrypting on servers and trying a vpn
[23:25] <orfeo> I want to move ~/.vimrc into ~/.vim and alias it. could someone help me please?
[23:25] <daftykins> "mv .blah .blahblah"
[23:26] <orfeo> I think I need a alias to replace the ~/.vimrc doc, but itis not a bash aliash.
[23:26] <Bashing-om> the_count: Well, We can go no further until that file system is verified. In this instance a liveUSB might be required. We can do a quicky file system check from the install prior to booting all the way up. But will not be as comprehensive as 'e2fsck' from the liveUSB environment .
[23:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: Xorg.0.log says config/udev: Adding extended imput device PS2/2 Synaptics Touchpad (/dev/input/mouse0) and then No input driver specified, ignoring this device
[23:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: A device may have been added with another device file, but i see no log of that above
[23:31] <the_count> Bashing-om: there is a bit more, read it here... I'm having troubles typing it all, but this is everything: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12547983/
[23:32] <surfer> whats the best way to consume DMT?
[23:33] <ikonia> DMT ?
[23:33] <the_count> DynaMyTe?
[23:34] <daftykins> surfer: no tripping here thanks, go elsewhere.
[23:36] <Bashing-om> the_count: reading.
[23:38] <bindi> maybe slightly offtopic, maybe not, has anyone tried budgie desktop on 14.04, is it worth my time to test it out?
[23:38] <Pici> 5
[23:38] <bindi> hmm, apparently its still in really early stages for ubuntu. :)
[23:38] <bindi> or wait, that was 1 year ago.
[23:39] <daftykins> if it's not in the repos it's technically not supported here, so more an offtopic thing perhaps
[23:40] <bindi> I guess I'll just try solus os in a VM ->
[23:40] <daftykins> knock yourself out! :)
[23:43] <Bashing-om> the_count: Hard to say " This device may have been added with another device file. " -> What returns 'lsusb' .
[23:45] <the_count> Bashing-om http://pate.ubuntu.com/12548205
[23:49] <Bashing-om> the_count: Well, is the touchpad Sunplus or Elan ?
[23:51] <TheLorax> anybody know how I can get the name of the processor I have in my computer? I know it's an i7...that's all.
[23:51] <the_count> Bashing-om: Looks like Elan, but I have no clue how to tell for sure
[23:51] <johnny_linux> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[23:52] <TheLorax> johnny_linux, model: 26, family 6. What does that tell me? I want a new motherboard and don't know what is compatible.
[23:52] <johnny_linux> TheLorax, google I-nex, great little tool
[23:53] <Bashing-om> TheLorax: What release ? as 14.04 supports ' sudo dmidecode ' for all kinfs of info . A quick way kust for the BPU info ' cat /proc/cpuinfo ' .
[23:54] <Bashing-om> the_count: Well, what reurns ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ' ?
[23:55] <TheLorax> ehhh, I'm not actually running ubuntu right now to be honest...old habit coming here
[23:56] <Bashing-om> TheLorax: Boot up a liveDVD ?
[23:56] <TheLorax> I can run dmidecode though :P
[23:56] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12547983/
[23:56] <TheLorax> dmidecode: no /dev/mem right now
[23:57] <neonixcoder> Good day team..
[23:58] <the_count> How's it going?


[00:12] <tsimonq2> Oh
[00:12] <tsimonq2> Right.
[00:35] <Unit193> Specifically, I think it's a bit of a detriment.


[00:22] <Tooncenator> holstein - this is UncleJed - someone nabbed my nick. lol.
[00:23] <Tooncenator> Have been following your directions - lsusb sees it. aplay and arecord both see it just fine. Jack server starts without any errors. I have disabled internal audio.
[00:24] <Tooncenator> i opened audacity, dropped in a tune, played it and can hear perfectly. I check the sound settings and the signal is definitely being sent to the m-audio box.
[00:26] <Tooncenator> Here's the part I don't get. The m-audio box only shows up on jack on the ALSA tab with a midi channel. Nothing on audio.
[00:27] <Tooncenator> So if I understand correctly, the sound I'm hearing is not actually being routed through jack - it's going straight to the box from the computer.
[00:28] <Tooncenator> Ok - i think saying that helped me think through it a bit. Doing more experimenting - will get back.
[00:32] <Tooncenator> No luck....no matter which interface i choose in the jack settings (i tried all multiple times), the only place the m-audio box shows up is for ALSA midi. No audio.
[04:07] <Tooncenator> Anyone know what this might mean? It was a message in qjackctl:
[04:07] <Tooncenator> (qjackctl:9526): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[04:33] <Tooncenator> holstein - does this patch information help? I'm pretty sure the Fast Track Pro is quite different than most external boxes and doesn't work as-is with qjackctl. I'm just getting nowhere with your suggestions.
[04:33] <Tooncenator> http://alsa.opensrc.org/M-Audio_FastTrack_Pro
[05:02] <OvenWerks> Tooncenator: The gtk messages are not audio related. They seem to not affect qjackctl's operation. I think it is the window manager using gtk while the application uses QT as a gui toolkit
[14:05] <Tooncenator> OvenWerks: Thank you. I suspected that, but as part of troubleshooting, I thought I'd open every possible door. Appreciate the response.
[15:08] <holstein> Tooncenator: it may not say 'maudio box' in jack or alsa
[15:09] <holstein> Tooncenator: what i do is, i'll literally eliminate the variable. i'll disable, or remove other audio interfaces.. i'll take the usb device to a *different* machine with *no* other audio devive
[15:09] <holstein> device*
[15:09] <holstein> i'll run a live iso, to remove my installed OS and config from the equation
[15:10] <holstein> i'll run on other hardware to remove my chipset drivers, and USB hardware, and motherboard, and othher hardware from the equation
[15:10] <holstein> i'll do whatever it takes to make sure i see *only* that maudio usb device
[15:10] <holstein> i'll then route *all* of the ins and outs to something i have, as i suggested, already learned about exectly how to use
[15:11] <holstein> for example, ardour, with the internal audio device. i will have already sucessfully learned to create a channel, and route my internal audio device's inputs to a channel in ardour, and record it
[15:11] <holstein> be sure you have done that, and know the proceedure, and what that should look like
[15:11] <holstein> i wouldnt expect to use audacity and jack together
[15:15] <holstein> Tooncenator: if its me, i donwload the AVlinux live iso, as well as the latest ubuntustudio, and the last LTS.. i'll just run those live, testing with *only* the one audio device
[15:16] <holstein> anything you learn from those live environments will be applicable to your installation now


[06:38] <mup> PR snapcraft#2891 closed: meta: always generate snapcraft-runner to workaround classic (#2889) <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2891>
[11:26] <mup> PR snapd#8048 opened: tests: disable system-usernames test on core20 <⚠ Critical> <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8048>
[17:14] <mup> PR snapd#8048 closed: tests: disable system-usernames test on core20 <⚠ Critical> <Created by zyga> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8048>
[18:59] <mup> PR snapd#8042 closed: tests: remove revision leaking from remodel-kernel <Test Robustness> <Created by zyga> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8042>
[20:00] <mup> PR snapd#8038 closed: tests: fix gadget-update-pc test leaking snaps <Test Robustness> <Created by zyga> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8038>
[20:00] <mup> PR snapd#8039 closed: tests: remove revision leaking from ubuntu-core-refresh <Test Robustness> <Created by zyga> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8039>
[21:27] <mup> PR snapd#8049 opened: tests: fix revisions leaking from snapd-refresh test <Test Robustness> <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8049>


[15:09] <NohaDrake> hello
[15:10] <NohaDrake> is there anyone?
[15:11] <NohaDrake> i think no :)
[15:11] <HarryHaaren> depends... what's the reason to ask?
[15:11] <NohaDrake> C U
[15:11] <NohaDrake> that great
[15:12] <NohaDrake> i wanna learn more about Ubuntu studio
[15:12] <NohaDrake> and also share my experences
[15:12] <NohaDrake> anyway thank U for your response Harry
[15:14] <cub> !ask
[15:15] <cub> Also NohaDrake there's the help.ubuntu.com link in the channel topic. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio also contains good information.
[15:21] <NohaDrake> thank you Guys, i really aprreaciate yours reponses. I will ask you, if i dont find find the response on the forums or the Internet.
[15:21] <NohaDrake> i am really happy to be in your community
[15:21] <NohaDrake> tks
[16:02] <RenderedLife> hi, i'm upgrading from 13.04 —> 13.10 … i recently purchased a second monitor and I'm trying to extend my desktop .. so far, i'm only able to clone my desktop on two monitors ..  does 13.10 make this easier? I have an integrated Intel gfx on a Gigabyte mother board .. is it a limitation of my gfx card?
[16:51] <holstein> RenderedLife: graphics driver support will make that "easier", or potentially possible
[16:51] <holstein> RenderedLife: i use arandr
[16:51] <holstein> !info arandr
[16:52] <holstein> its point and click and choose simple when the vendor supports linux
[16:52] <holstein> intel usually does, so, maybe try a few different GUI tools and see if you can make it work
[16:59] <RenderedLife> holstein: thanks .. turns out i have arandr installed already … i started it, but don't see any option for clone or extend .. all i can do is place the virtual relative position .. i guess i should assume the integrated card can't do this .. which is kind of strange .. since it provides both VGA and DVI ports …
[17:00] <holstein> RenderedLife: you can also try a custom xorg.conf.. i'll generate them from live cd's such as knoppix
[17:01] <RenderedLife> holstein: wait ! i didn't click apply, because i assumed there was nothing to apply .. but presto .. it worked … thank's a ton! i was starting to think i was going to be stuck with mirrored monitors ...
[17:01] <holstein> RenderedLife: cheers..
[21:20] <w0rmie> an ASUS (i'm not in front of now) using realtek ALC660 (working on windows) doesn't send any sound even after updates
[21:21] <w0rmie> alsamixer settings look fine
[21:21] <w0rmie> any suggestions?
[22:08] <holstein> !audio | w0rmie
[22:08] <holstein> w0rmie: you can run lspci in a terminal to see if the device is showing up there.. you can run "alay -l" and/or "arecord -l" and see if alsa is trying to provide support for it
[22:09] <holstein> w0rmie: its could also be that you are not using JACK, but you are launching something that is trying to start JACK, and breaking your audio
[22:09] <holstein> w0rmie: i would see that, from a fresh reboot, start something simple, such as vlc, with known good audio file that you have codec support for, and try using pavucontrol to route the audio
[23:16] <Potcho> Hi !
[23:16] <holstein> o/
[23:17] <Potcho> o/
[23:17] <Potcho> i'm looking for some help with Rosegarden
[23:17] <holstein> sure
[23:17] <holstein> do you have JACK running stable?
[23:18] <Potcho> it trash when i try to open a project or when i try to register a track either from a blank song
[23:18] <Potcho> thanks for you help
[23:19] <Potcho> yes Jack is stable
[23:19] <holstein> Potcho: i would try renaming the config file in your user /home, and try lanuching again, and see if you can make a new session
[23:20] <Potcho> ok
[23:20] <Potcho> i can create a new ubuntu user maybe ?
[23:21] <Potcho> oh non sorry ok i try
[23:25] <Potcho> holstein : can't find config file in /home/username
[23:27] <holstein> Potcho: it'll likely be hidden
[23:27] <holstein> Potcho: control+h should show the hidden directories
[23:27] <holstein> .g rosegarden config file location
[23:28] <Potcho> no, can't find it
[23:29] <Potcho> it should be named .rosegarden ?
[23:29] <holstein> Potcho: there is no "should".. just a file in the users home somewhere.. i'll keep searching the internet
[23:33] <holstein> Potcho: what output do you get if you start rg from the terminal? any errors?
[23:34] <Potcho> nothing
[23:34] <holstein> Potcho: what exactly happens?
[23:34] <Potcho> inknown command
[23:34] <holstein> Potcho: then, that is not the command to launch rg
[23:35] <holstein> Potcho: use the autocomplete function to be sure you are issueing the proper command
[23:35] <Potcho> sorry
[23:36] <Potcho> i tryed rg but it's mean RoseGarden
[23:36] <Potcho> so when i launch rosegarden in a terminal it'o Ok
[23:37] <Potcho> but when i push the red button it crach
[23:37] <Potcho> crash
[23:38] <Potcho> saying :
[23:38] <Potcho> JackAudioDriver::ProcessGraphAsyncMaster: Process error JackEngine::XRun: client = rosegarden was not run: state = 1
[23:40] <holstein> Potcho: i would just relax the jack settings and try
[23:41] <Potcho> It seems that jack was down
[23:42] <Potcho> now jack is launched but rg freeze
[23:44] <Potcho> i've got message in qjack
[23:44] <Potcho> ERROR: Failed to find port 'rosegarden:record monitor out R' to destro
[23:44] <Potcho> and many other like that


[02:32] <atmark> 619
[02:34] <atmark> sir e1mer musta?
[02:34] <atmark> ehehe
[17:28] <MarkDude> Anyone practice any Baybayin or writing like that?
[17:29]  * MarkDude is really enjoying learning, hoping to find others :)
[22:03] <e1mer> atmark, hey, how are you :)


[11:11] <CIA-9> hw-detect: cjwatson * r114 ubuntu/ (29 files in 5 dirs): merge from Debian 1.72
[14:35] <__algol__> Hi! can anyone here help me with the casper's live CD boot process?
[14:35] <cjwatson> perhaps, what's the question?
[14:36] <__algol__> well, I would like to make a live USB with the filesystem.squashfs on some other directory, but I can't figure out how
[14:38] <cjwatson> you mean some directory other than /casper? why?
[14:39] <__algol__> yep, cause I want to have more then one live system in that USB pen
[14:40] <cjwatson> hmm, you'll have difficulty with the installer there too I expect
[14:40] <cjwatson> you could use multiple containing filesystems rather than changing the directory name
[14:40] <cjwatson> casper supports a UUID to (effectively) specify the filesystem to use
[14:40] <__algol__> well, I don't care about the installer, I just want the live system...
[14:42] <cjwatson> right now there's no way to specify a different directory short of hacking the code; I think using multiple containing filesystems (i.e. multiple partitions on the stick) and using UUIDs to control which gets used might be easier
[14:43] <__algol__> hmmm... maybe but I would like to have it this way so that I can easly change the live systems I carry on my USB pen
[14:44] <__algol__> I know that on gentoo has a "subdir" boot param and on debian I has "live-media-path", but what about ubuntu?
[14:45] <cjwatson> like I say, it doesn't right now, although I can probably suck in the change from Debian
[14:45] <cjwatson> but that won't help you for existing releases
[14:46] <__algol__> I did something near it by using "iso-scan/filename" param, but it makes it a very slow boot process, as it has to read the whole iso
[14:47] <__algol__> the thing is that debian uses other boot script...
[14:48] <__algol__> do you know about the "iso-scan/filename" param?
[14:52] <cjwatson> I do, but it isn't relevant to you
[14:52] <cjwatson> it's for use by the alternate/server installer, not the live CD boot process
[14:53] <cjwatson> Debian's live CD boot script is a derivative of Ubuntu's, so changes are portable
[14:53] <__algol__> well, it did the trick for me
[14:53] <__algol__> the live system booted with no problem when I used it
[14:53] <__algol__> iso-scan/filename=/linux/ubuntu/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[14:54] <__algol__> but I had to copy the iso file to that path, of corse
[14:54] <cjwatson> oh, well lupin does support it
[14:54] <cjwatson> but in that case it's only intended for use by wubi
[14:54] <__algol__> yep, thats in that script
[14:55] <__algol__> I didn't use wubi... I started it with gurb
[14:55] <__algol__> *grub
[14:56] <cjwatson> I realise that, I just said it's only *intended* for use by wubi
[14:56] <__algol__> :)
[14:56] <cjwatson> you can use it if you like, it's just not really a great approach
[14:56] <cjwatson> (for this case)
[14:57] <__algol__> I think you are right, that's why I'm still asking of other method :)
[14:57] <cjwatson> there is no method built into casper right now
[14:57] <CIA-9> casper: cjwatson * r630 trunk/ (debian/changelog debian/manpage/casper.7 scripts/casper):
[14:57] <CIA-9> casper: * Port from Debian (thanks, Daniel Baumann):
[14:57] <CIA-9> casper:  - Added live-media-path as suggested by Jordi Pujol.
[14:57] <cjwatson> ^- that commit to karmic adds one
[14:58] <__algol__> ??
[14:58] <cjwatson> but you'll still have to use something else for older releases; iso-scan/filename will probably do OK
[14:59] <__algol__> you are saying that you asked for future realeses to support "live-media-path" param?
[15:00] <__algol__> so, for oldler realeses there is only two ways... iso-scan/filename, and change the script myself...
[15:01] <__algol__> think I will choose the first :)
[15:01] <__algol__> *releases
[15:03] <__algol__> does "iso-scan/filename" param make the system load entierly from the iso?
[15:03] <cjwatson> no, I'm saying that I *made* future releases support that parameter
[15:03] <cjwatson> yes, it does
[15:03] <__algol__> so, I don't need any other file to boot?
[15:04] <cjwatson> you probably need the initramfs in place
[15:04] <__algol__> like vmlinuz, initrd.gz?
[15:05] <__algol__> initramfs ? , initrd.gz?
[15:06] <__algol__> of corse I need  initrd.gz, the boot script is there....
[15:07] <__algol__> that way I will need just two files, ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso, vmlinuz and initrd.gz, right?
[15:08] <__algol__> wrong! that't three files LOL
[15:10] <__algol__> is the "preseed" file needed for the live system or just in the instalation process?
[15:17] <cjwatson> just the installation process
[15:17] <cjwatson> initrd.gz is an initramfs these days, but you're unlikely to care about the distinction (which is why we never bothered renaming the file)
[15:19] <__algol__> ok, thanks alot for the help
[15:20] <__algol__> I'm impressed for the quickness of the acceptance of kind of a suggestion like the "live-media-path" param...
[15:22] <__algol__> have you actually coded it already?
[15:27] <cjwatson> __algol__: the message you saw from CIA-9 was a commit message, i.e. code
[15:28] <__algol__> great! you'r realy quick then :)
[15:30] <__algol__> so, I could download the new CVS version and make a new intrd.gz, for my USB pen ;)
[15:30] <cjwatson> well, it's not cvs, but sure, I guess so; but only if you know your way around very well
[15:31] <__algol__> ...in witch script is it?
[15:32] <__algol__> casper, ok
[15:32] <__algol__> sorry
[15:35] <__algol__> I just can't find the source code, but I guess it would be just following some steps from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[15:35] <cjwatson> suppose so
[15:46] <__algol__> :( went to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/casper/+changelog, but can't find it... but now I know that you use bazaar ;)
[15:47] <evand> it hasn't been uploaded yet
[15:47] <cjwatson> you can find the code from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/casper/trunk if you're desperate
[15:49] <evand> you'll have to branch casper (bzr checkout lp:casper casper.ubuntu)
[15:49] <evand> ah
[15:51] <CarlFK> I am trying to run the net installer in xen, but I get: Error: (2, 'Invalid kernel', 'elf_xen_note_check: ERROR: Will only load images built for the generic loader or Linux images')
[15:52] <__algol__> well, not desperate... I was just couriose to see the changes you have made :) I think I would die if I didn't :)
[15:53] <__algol__> Thank a lot again!
[15:53] <__algol__> bye, hve to go back to work...
[15:56] <__algol__> nice talking to you!
[20:48] <CIA-9> hw-detect: cjwatson * r115 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.72ubuntu1


[02:50] <davekempe> hey anyone here played with lvm-snapshots much - I have a quick question about i/o memory usage with em
[02:51] <fabbione> davekempe: just ask...
[02:51] <fabbione> somebody might answer
[03:20] <davekempe> hey fabbione - thanks for all your hard work btw
[03:20] <fabbione> thanks
[03:20] <fabbione> davekempe: ask your question? :)
[03:20] <fabbione> i did play a bit with lvm snapshotting
[03:20] <davekempe> i am just having general troubles with performing lvm snapshots when a server is under heavy load. using breezy with xen 3.0.0 kernel and packages
[03:20] <fabbione> so i migth be able to answer
[03:21] <davekempe> i get memory errors and lockups on removing the lvm snapshot
[03:21] <fabbione> we don't support xen sorry
[03:21] <davekempe> lvremove hangs indefinitely
[03:21] <davekempe> yeah i know
[03:21] <fabbione> there were a lot of bugfixes in dapper for snapshots
[03:21] <fabbione> you really want to try to upgrade
[03:22] <davekempe> yeah i upgraded one of my machines to dapper with the debian 2.6.16 kernel today and lvm snapshot seemed to behave better
[03:22] <davekempe> so thats basically it...
[03:22] <davekempe> I figured it was going to be upgrade to dapper - not that i mind
[03:22] <davekempe> just wanted a second opinion
[03:23] <fabbione> there was a bug where doing a lot snapshots in sequence was giving problems
[03:23] <fabbione> that's how i got to test it
[03:23] <fabbione> high load and blablabla
[03:23] <davekempe> ahh
[03:23] <fabbione> we had to upgrade to lvm2 2.0.somethingmorenewthanwehad
[03:24] <davekempe> yeah this machine was rsyncing off an lvm snapshot and the next snapshot hung
[03:24] <davekempe> yeah 2.0.2 i think
[03:24] <davekempe> fixes it
[03:24] <fabbione> yeah something like that
[03:24] <fabbione> but .15 is good enough to do the job
[03:24] <fabbione> no need of .16
[03:38] <davekempe> yeah no xen for .15 though... but its cool. dapper it is :)
[02:38] <pab1> With VMware, I have no DNS name resolution in my guest.  The DNS servers are valid and I entered them manually.  Using bridged ethernet.  Anyone ever run into this or have any ideas?
[02:42] <vars> hey i need a ubuuntu server
[02:42] <vars> here's the good news i'm an idiot
[02:55] <vars> hey
[02:55] <vars> beezly, how is this project comming?
[11:51] <beezly> vars: hi
[11:53] <beezly> slowly - right now, i'm just looking at what the impacts of running /etc over bzr are
[11:53] <beezly> i'd like to get dpkg to do a bzr commit after it makes changes, but i don't think there's a low-impact way of doing that - i suspect it needs changes to dpkg.
[12:01] <infinity> beezly: If you always use apt, you can do it in an apt post-run hook, but there's no sane way to do it in dpkg itself, no.
[12:01] <beezly> infinity: yeah - i thought that might be the case :/
[03:52] <mgalvin> fabbione: ping?
[04:32] <fabbione> mgalvin: pong?
[04:45] <mgalvin> fabbione: hey
[04:46] <mgalvin> did you happen to get to read that email the other day?
[04:48] <fabbione> mgalvin: yes but i am quite busy with the release now
[04:48] <fabbione> also some of the info you are asking are kind of company only
[04:49] <mgalvin> fabbione: i understand, was just wondering about a few things since the meeting is coming up
[04:49] <fabbione> 1 and 2 i can't answer
[04:49] <fabbione> 3) yes, everything that is supported by a FC-HBA controller should work. I am using Emulex controllers here in my house with an old SAN system.
[04:50] <fabbione> 4) The suite is tested. i do the tests personally. got bugs and fixed them from other users (positive reports from upstream too about our packaging).
[04:51] <fabbione> GFS is part of tests of 4
[04:51] <fabbione> OCFS2 is integrated into 4) and it works
[04:52] <fabbione> also there.. good test reports from upstream
[04:52] <fabbione> not just us
[04:52] <fabbione> let me slam this in the email
[04:52] <mgalvin> cool, that should be good enough for now... the CIO really just wants to hear some one else (in addition to me) say this stuff works
[04:53] <mgalvin> thanks a lot fabbione
[04:53] <fabbione> well i did the packaging..
[04:53] <fabbione> and tested them
[04:53] <fabbione> if that's enough....
[04:53] <mgalvin> when you refer to upstream, does that mean redhat?
[04:54] <fabbione> for the cluster suite and GFS I mean some of the upstream developers of the suite (ex sistina) that now work for RH
[04:55] <fabbione> for OCFS2 i mean a couple of developers that works on it
[04:55] <mgalvin> k cool
[04:55] <fabbione> but it's not like you will write at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and get these information
[04:55] <mgalvin> i know :)
[04:55] <fabbione> ok
[04:55] <fabbione> just that we understand eachother
[04:55] <mgalvin> yup
[04:56] <mgalvin> hopefully jane will be able to get back to me before the meeting, the CIO is actually more interested in some success stories... but this info you are giving me certainly helps too :)
[04:57] <fabbione> just to make it clear.. i don't know the answer to 1) and 2)
[04:57] <fabbione> sometimes there are success stories that are not our customers
[04:58] <mgalvin> yea, i know, no prob, mdz seemed to think jane might be able to help us there, no worries
[04:58] <fabbione> ok
[04:58] <mgalvin> thanks again... i'll let you get back to work :)
[04:58] <fabbione> i am not worried
[04:58] <fabbione> your CIO is welcome to contact me for more tech info if he wants them
[04:58] <mgalvin> k cool, i will let him know you offered
[04:58] <fabbione> mgalvin: or show him my office: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/office/
[04:59] <fabbione> that's where the cluster suite is packaged and tested
[04:59] <fabbione> ;)
[04:59] <mgalvin> nice!!!
[04:59] <mgalvin> i want one
[10:12] <Burgwork> hey all
[10:12] <infinity> Hey Corey.
[10:12] <Burgwork> I am about to write you all a shiny new page for the website about why the ubuntu server is great
[10:12] <Burgwork> but I need some ideas
[10:13] <infinity> Can you ask me for great ideas tomorrow, when I've had some sleep (and am not innebriated)? :)
[10:13] <Burgwork> infinity, sure
[10:13] <Burgwork> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/Desktop <-- something similar to this
[04:41] <BlankB> Is there a place that describes the differences in the linux-image.2.6.15.-23-XXX images? Like the difference between -server and -server-bigiron?
[04:49] <mgalvin> BlankB: there is a brief explanation at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta#head-0267ca58bb4998011f8a1749714aa566d3fd918c
[04:52] <BlankB> mgalvin: Looking at that now...
[04:54] <BlankB> mgalvin: That is probalby what I was looking for.
[04:54] <BlankB> I should look at the differences of the two kernel configs for them and see what the real differences are.
[06:22] <thefish> anyone got any opinions on which to use between xen and vmware-server?
[06:23] <beezly> thefish: imho, xen is more elegant, if you can do it. vmware-server is easy.
[06:24] <spike> thefish: considering vmware-server is vmware playground released with the only intention to not lose too much visibility with Xen increased populatiry, Xen.
[06:24] <beezly> i would go with Xen too, assuming you can
[06:24] <thefish> mmm
[06:25] <thefish> i have only used vmware, and its as easy as peeing into a well, tried xen ages ago and pulled a lot of hair, i guess it has got a bit easier though
[06:25] <spike> vmware-server is and always will be "beta". Xen is meant to be run in production
[06:25] <thefish> whats it like to install on ubuntu?
[06:25] <beezly> spike: is that true?
[06:25] <spike> beezly: it is
[06:25] <beezly> my understanding is that vmware server is to replace vmware GSX
[06:26] <thefish> they recon on their site that Q2 will be final for vmware server, and they will start selling support and maintenance for it
[06:26] <thefish> beezly: thats what vmware.com says
[06:26] <beezly> thefish: that's my understanding too
[06:26] <thefish> i like the idea of xen though, a lot of good hackers working on it
[06:26] <thefish> but i dont want a server to go down and not have a clue about where to start
[06:27] <beezly> thefish: xen is architecturally much better. it has far lower overhead than vmware.
[06:27] <thefish> iirc xen vms are moveable to other hosts?
[06:27] <spike> speaking f overhead, I like openVZ
[06:27] <beezly> thefish: yes - whilst keeping them running
[06:27] <thefish> that is sexy
[06:27] <spike> thefish: as long as they are on the same subnet, yes
[06:27] <thefish> k
[06:27] <beezly> i'm not familiar with openvz
[06:27] <thefish> swsoft/plesk product no?
[06:28] <spike> beezly: well, when it comes to overhead, the point is you're not running a kernel per guest, which saves a lot
[06:29] <spike> but architecturally it's completely different, sw Vs hw virtualization
[06:29] <beezly> spike: ah, I see.. it's quite like Solaris Zones.
[06:29] <spike> yes, exactly
[06:31] <spike> about the vmware-server, when it came out afaik it wasnt planned to replae GSX afaik, things might have changed, yet I hardly believe it will ever properly supported
[06:31] <thefish> apparently there are some nice new cpus coming out with much more support for virtualising on i386
[06:32] <beezly> thefish: that's true - both AMD and Intel have chips coming along (I think they are due this year) with instructions to support virtualisation.
[06:32] <beezly> i'm not too sure what the impact of that is though.
[06:32] <thefish> running windows in xen
[06:32] <thefish> without modification
[06:33] <spike> unmodified guests
[06:34] <beezly> i'm aware of that, but i'm unsure how it achieves that. I've not looked into it that much
[01:02] <Hardtrac> hello
[01:02] <Hardtrac> can any1 help me?
[11:08] <kermit> http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/
[03:20] <shawarma> Just did an upgrade to Dapper on a server with software RAID.. I got a mail with subject: "FW: Debconf: Configuring mdadm -- Initialise the superblock if you reuse hard disks
[03:20] <shawarma> Does that ring a bell to anyone?
[03:22] <shawarma> It says that if I'm using a RAID array from an earlier installation I should zero the superblock...
[03:22] <shawarma> I'm not sure what to make of that.
[04:12] <trs80> shawarma: it's talking about if you move hard disks used in raid between machines
[10:45] <xerophyte> is there anything like Fedora Directory server for Ubuntu ???
[09:24] <crazy_penguin> hi all!
[09:25] <crazy_penguin> small question if i may. is the apache package for ubuntu preconfigurated to a certain level or it is raw?
[09:39] <lionelp> crazy_penguin: like Debian package
[09:39] <lionelp> it serve a localhost (/var/www)
[09:39] <lionelp> in most cases, it will need a little work for sysadmin :)
[09:40] <crazy_penguin> lionelp: ok. thx:)
[11:57] <NobodHere> hey all...is this an OK place to ask about jumbo frame problems?  I have a feeling #ubuntu wouldn't be much help :-|
[12:28] <NobodHere_> anybody home?
[05:42] <gpd>  /var/run is mounted as varrun type in dapper
[05:42] <gpd> which causes ln /var/run/foo /var/spool/bar to fail
[05:42] <gpd> for a chroot postfix -> courier-authdaemon
[05:42] <gpd> no idea where to start on this one...
[05:46] <jsgotangco> its pretty new :)
[05:46] <gpd> not yet released - some might say :)
[05:47] <fabbione> gpd: how old is your installation?
[05:47] <fabbione> tmpfs on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[05:47] <fabbione> dapper updated as of today
[05:47] <fabbione> everything has been reverted to be tmpfs
[05:48] <jsgotangco> actually this would be the 2nd ubuntu-server release
[05:48] <jsgotangco> (officially)
[05:49] <gpd> let me check
[05:50] <gpd> varrun       tmpfs       57488        76     57412   1% /var/run
[05:50] <gpd> it's not so much the type that is the problem but the different device
[05:50] <gpd> and i am current with dapper dist-upgrade
[05:51] <fabbione> gpd: file a bug on launchpad, add infos, conffiles etc.
[05:51] <fabbione> assign it to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:51] <gpd> again - not sure if it is a bug or if i am jsut not doing it correctly
[05:51] <fabbione> gpd: ok, start filing a bug so that somebody will start looking at it
[05:52] <gpd> chroot postfix and courier-authdaemon normally talk via:
[05:52] <gpd>  /var/spool/postfix/var/run/courier/authdaemon/socket
[05:52] <fabbione> timelimit for any upload is tomorrow
[05:52] <gpd>  /var/run/courier/authdaemon/socket
[05:52] <fabbione> so you better file a bug or it will pass unseen
[05:52] <gpd> ok will do
[05:55] <gpd> what package?
[05:56] <gpd> initscripts or courier-foo
[05:57] <fabbione> hmm
[05:57] <fabbione> courier-foo
[06:03] <gpd> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/46858
[06:03] <gpd> my first bug report - probably useless :(
[07:52] <infinity> gpd: Changing that from a hardlink to a symlink should solve the problem.
[07:52] <infinity> gpd: I can't test that locally, though.
[07:53] <infinity> gpd: If I make fixed packages, can you test them for me before I upload them?
[07:53] <gpd> symlink won't work across a chroot :(
[07:55] <fabbione> gpd: please try what infinity asked
[07:55] <fabbione> if the symlink was working before, it will work later
[07:55] <fabbione> it's a matter of creating the proper one
[07:55] <gpd> no ln was working
[07:55] <gpd> not ln -s
[07:55] <gpd> very different
[07:55] <fabbione> i know the diff
[07:55] <infinity> No, he's rish.
[07:55] <infinity> right, to.
[07:55] <infinity> too,
[07:56] <fabbione> hmm
[07:56] <infinity> Argh.  Just woke up.
[07:56] <fabbione> oh well i need to get ready to fly to london
[07:56] <fabbione> but a -f might solve
[07:56] <fabbione> ln -f
[07:56] <infinity> No, dude.
[07:56] <infinity> A symlink can't work across chroots, and a hardlink can't be done across devices.
[07:56] <gpd> fabbione: if you are in a chroot you cannot see outside it
[07:56] <fabbione> go scott!
[07:57] <infinity> No worries.  It's fixab;e.
[07:57] <fabbione> i am not worried
[07:57] <fabbione> gpd: right...
[07:57] <gpd> is /var/run mounted as varrun a recent idea?
[07:58] <gpd> I don't understand what it achieves?
[07:58] <gpd> is it a security thing?
[07:58] <infinity> gpd: mkdir -p /var/spool/courier/authdaemon/ ; ln /var/spool/courier/authdaemon/socket /var/spool/postfix/var/run/courier/authdaemon/socket ; ln -s ln /var/run/courier/authdaemon/socket /var/spool/courier/authdaemon/socket
[07:58] <infinity> gpd: If that makes it work, I'll just do that.
[07:58] <fabbione> what i don't understand is why gpd keeps having varrun fs
[07:59] <fabbione> it was changed back to tmpfs naming, wasn't it?
[07:59] <fabbione> oh well
[07:59] <fabbione> whatever..
[07:59] <infinity> fabbione: He doesn't.  varrun is the name of the mount.
[07:59] <infinity> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[07:59] <fabbione> bleah
[07:59] <gpd> varrun       tmpfs       57488        76     57412   1% /var/run
[08:00] <fabbione> let me tell you something
[08:00] <infinity> gpd: Can you try the above for me?
[08:00] <gpd> that was df -T
[08:00] <gpd> infinity: yes - one sec
[08:00] <fabbione> i am supposed to be the server project leader to drive infinity ... and given my management position, i am NOT supposed to understand shit :P
[08:00] <infinity> fabbione: *grin*
[08:00] <fabbione> infinity: it's all your :) have fun ;)
[08:01] <fabbione> i need to fly to london
[08:01] <fabbione> cya late
[08:01] <infinity> gpd: /var/run on tmpfs makes sense for a varienty of reasons.  It's just a bit of a pain to have to transition everything, that's all.  And this corner case is a fun one we didn't spot.  That's all.
[08:01] <infinity> variety, too.  I really shouldn't even try typing right after I wake up.
[08:02] <ajmitch> hm, redhat decided to rewrite authconfig in python
[08:02] <ajmitch> how useful
[08:05] <gpd> infinity: gpd@www:~$ sudo  mkdir -p /var/spool/courier/authdaemon/
[08:05] <gpd> gpd@www:~$ sudo ln /var/spool/courier/authdaemon/socket /var/spool/postfix/var/run/courier/authdaemon/socket
[08:05] <gpd> ln: accessing `/var/spool/courier/authdaemon/socket': No such file or directory
[08:06] <gpd> the original socket is in: /var/run/courier/authdaemon/socket
[08:06] <infinity> Right, what do I need installed to test this locally? :)
[08:06] <infinity> Oh, the socket is in /var/run?
[08:06] <infinity> Right, I should have read more closely.
[08:07] <gpd> postfix, courier-authdaemon, rest of courier
[08:08] <infinity> What's responsible for doing the above linking magic?
[08:08] <infinity> Oh, a HOWTO... We don't ship it like this?
[08:08] <gpd> i had to add it manually to /etc/init.d/courier-authdaemon
[08:08] <gpd> correct
[08:09] <gpd> this is to allow courier to work with chroot postfix (which you do ship as)
[08:09] <infinity> Okay, I see in the howto, lots of ln magic.
[08:09] <gpd> i would probably not worry too much for the release
[08:09] <infinity> You'd probably get away with circumventing all of that (for courier, mysql, etc), by just bindmounting /var/run to /var/spool/postfix/var/run
[08:09] <gpd> i was just encouraged to post the bug
[08:10] <gpd> you might be right!
[08:13] <gpd> nope - didn't work
[08:13] <gpd> /var/run               57M   76K   57M   1% /var/spool/postfix/var/run
[08:13] <gpd> nevermind
[08:13] <gpd> have to go - thanks for the help
[08:13] <infinity> Nevermind, as in "nevermind, it did work", or "nevermind, it didn't"?
[08:14] <infinity> Certainly looks like it should work.
[08:14] <infinity> (And if so, I'd recommend you update that wiki to reflect that)
[07:06] <gpd> infinity: thanks for your help - I got your suggestion to work after a minor chmod on a directory :)
[07:06] <gpd> chmod 755 /var/spool/postfix/var/run/courier/authdaemon