[06:56] <paissad-hp> ziroday, ok thx
[06:56] <c_nick> I dont have a bootable CD.. only an iso file.. i am currently having U9.10 Desktop version installed on my machine
[06:56] <spO> samba doesn't start at startup. I tried updated-rc samba defaults  .... but it says the links are already there evne though it doesn't start at startup
[06:57] <uncmar> c_nick: what version are you currently running?  The 9's have a USB boot creator in the system menu. for Ubuntu.
[06:58] <uncmar> c_nick: just had a frightful thought.  You are running Windwows?
[06:58] <fusion> nobody else has had a mouse issue?
[06:59] <c_nick> nope uncmar been quite a while since i was on Windows :)
[06:59] <c_nick> no USB boot creator works but while installation it gives an error
[06:59] <uncmar> navid: have you looked at your xorg.log in /var/log ?
[06:59] <iflema> c_nick: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles theres options there for win mac lin. 4 lin graphical and command line. dd is used in the command line stuff
[06:59] <twb> I have an 8.04 LTS desktop and a SATA CD drive.  The former doesn't appear to auto-detect the latter.
[06:59] <spO> samba doesn't start when i boot up , but I did  update-rc.d samba defaults and it doesnt' change anything
[06:59] <twb> Does 8.04 support SATA CDs at all?
[06:59] <fusion> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/479033 I have this same problem. help?
[06:59] <c_nick> ok iflema currently following that only
[07:00] <dsnyders> c_nick, check www.pendrivelinux.com.  I think they have instructions for booting an ISO off of a USB
[07:00] <MagicVibe> hi could someone assist me? i have a fresh install of unbunt 9.10 but i cant seem to get the broadcom (wired)ethernet to connect with my router....
[07:00] <MagicVibe> fairly new user here<--
[07:01] <uncmar> c_nick: what was the error?
[07:01] <c_nick> ok .. but first with iflema here
[07:01] <c_nick> i am following her site
[07:01] <c_nick> uncmar:  Boot error
[07:01] <c_nick> thats all
[07:01] <c_nick> then it said loading GRUB
[07:01] <c_nick> and my Normal Ubuntu started
[07:01] <uncmar> c_nick: never got a menu?
[07:01] <c_nick> nope
[07:02] <uncmar> c_nick: are you sure your USB boot is set for HDD or Harddrive or ZIP and not Floppy?
[07:02] <luckymurali> Hi to all
[07:02] <brianherman> uncmar: doesn't grub by default disable the display of grub
[07:02] <uncmar> c_nick: some systems don't auto-detect.
[07:03] <fuzzykittens> hello
[07:03] <c_nick> uncmar: uhh,,, it does :)
[07:03] <c_nick> iflema: doing sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/devicenode bs=1M
[07:03] <fuzzykittens> I am attempting to make my soundcard work, how do I rebuild the packages for my soundcard like ALSA and such?
[07:03] <fuzzykittens> or download drivers
[07:03] <c_nick> whats dd and bs ?
[07:04] <luckymurali> I am using ubuntu server 64 bit, my network printer is attached with the windows ,How can i access that printer???
[07:04] <brianherman> fuzzykittens: dl drivers
[07:04] <DaZ> c_nick: man dd
[07:04] <luckymurali> please tell me
[07:04] <DaZ> and bs is dd parameter.
[07:04] <dsnyders> c_nick, dd is disk duplicate, bs is block size
[07:04] <c_nick> ohk
[07:04] <iflema> %
[07:04] <uncmar> c_nick: man dd.  It is a disk dump or data duplicate or whatever.  It is RAW copy of drive data.
[07:05] <uncmar> luckymurali: is it shared from windows?
[07:05] <iflema> c_nick dd will not leave you any space
[07:05] <iflema> freespce
[07:05] <luckymurali> uncmar, yes
[07:05] <fuzzykittens> brianherman: dl drivers?
[07:05] <spO> samba doesn't start when I boot up, I did a update-rc.d samba defaults  but it doesn't work
[07:05] <octaveous> hi all,. i have this error while building OMNETPP on ubuntu,   opp_makemake: --deep is neither an existing file/dir nor a valid option
[07:05] <brianherman> fuzzykittens: download drivers
[07:05] <octaveous> can anyone help
[07:06] <c_nick> iflema: dd is convert and copy.. got that if is input file of is output file but the last thing bs=1M
[07:06] <fuzzykittens> brianherman: okay, I am running on a server, SSH, no gui, I don't feel like messing with links. is there no apt-get to get drivers?
[07:06] <c_nick> thats byte Size = 1 MB ??
[07:06] <iflema> block size i imagine iM
[07:06] <uncmar> fuzzykittens: apt-cache search drivername
[07:07] <kevin__> hmm
[07:07] <kevin__> Out_Cold
[07:07] <fuzzykittens> uncmar: thanks
[07:07] <uncmar> fuzzykittens: you might not find the driver you are looking for, but then again, you might.
[07:07] <kevin__> using my windows system I see that there are missing date entries in the flash movie
[07:07] <c_nick> hmm ok
[07:07] <iflema> c_nick: block size = 1Mb
[07:08] <fuzzykittens> uncmar: yeah, got no idea how many things I just got from apt-cache search audio
[07:08] <c_nick> difference between block and bytes
[07:08] <fuzzykittens> is there no blanket xf86-audio drivers?
[07:08] <uncmar> fuzzykittens: which audio card?
[07:09] <luckymurali> which cups i need to install to use my printer attached on windows systems???
[07:09] <iflema> c_nick and what you said
[07:09] <fuzzykittens> uncmar: some random card I just tossed in the machine
[07:09] <brianherman> fuzzykittens: no there is no blankets in linux
[07:09] <brianherman> fuzzykittens: only nails
[07:09] <uncmar> fuzzykittens: lspci -v | less
[07:09] <fuzzykittens> brianherman: I do archlinux, blanket is a loose term
[07:09] <uncmar> fuzzykittens: look for you sound card in there.
[07:10] <c_nick> iflema:  1 Block = 512 Bytes :)
[07:10] <uncmar> fuzzykittens: less will let you naviage up and down the returned data.
[07:10] <fuzzykittens> uncmar: I know
[07:10] <c_nick> so you are setting the Block size to a MB
[07:10] <fuzzykittens> !not-a-noob
[07:10] <c_nick> so now 1 Block is 1000 Bytes
[07:10] <brianherman> fuzzykittens: use the / character to search
[07:11] <myremixhelp> help me, how to configure my netbook webcam
[07:11] <fuzzykittens> brianherman: well, I'll just leave the channel because I hate being treated like a complete noob
[07:11] <iflema> c_nick input block size.... sounds like hddd talk... me not sure
[07:11] <kevin__> locate halo
[07:11] <uncmar> brianherman: I'll let fuzzykittens use vi next.  <evil grin>
[07:11] <c_nick> hmm
[07:11] <kevin__> opps
[07:11] <c_nick> ok done now restarting.. keep your fingures crossed
[07:11] <kevin__> wrong window
[07:11] <brianherman> uncmar: lol
[07:11] <iflema> uhuh
[07:12] <uncmar> sensitive people.  I don't know a person's level until the tell me.  sheesh.
[07:12] <octaveous> hi all,. i have this error while building OMNETPP on ubuntu,   opp_makemake: --deep is neither an existing file/dir nor a valid option
[07:12] <brianherman> octaveous: paste the error to lisp.paste.org
[07:12] <Fog> ubuntu is only allowing me to have 2 work spaces, it used to allow 4, what happened?
[07:13] <myremixhelp> anybody help me? give me a link to configure my camera laptop on buntu 9.10
[07:13] <brianherman> fog: right click the workspace switcher
[07:13] <iflema> Fog: right click on the switcher
[07:13] <mediaprodigy> trying to use Ubtuntu Software Center but do not see the install button... running 9.10.. does anyone have the same issue
[07:13] <uncmar> Fog: 2 thoughts.  Setting or memory limit.
[07:13] <Fog> thanks
[07:13] <octaveous> brianherman:  is that an irc channel? i cant find it
[07:13] <ian_> my laptop acts like it doesn't see the battery when it resumes from the suspend state.
[07:14] <brianherman> octaveous: Copy your terminal output and paste it to http://paste.lisp.org
[07:14] <uncmar> octaveous: no, it is a website you paste your data there and then give us the link to see it.
[07:14] <uncmar> octaveous: prevents channel flooding.
[07:14] <octaveous> thx will do it in a second
[07:14] <myremixhelp> my laptop can't play mp3 file too? why?
[07:15] <brianherman> octaveous: try this: apt-get install omnetpp
[07:15] <sumoduno> myremixhelp> do u have the restricted extras?
[07:15] <myremixhelp> i run it from usb
[07:15] <brianherman> fuzzykittens: are you still haveing trouble?
[07:16] <ian_> why would my computer act like it's hooked up to ac power when it's not?
[07:16] <sumoduno> is there like a ccleaner thing for ubuntu?
[07:16] <mediaprodigy> I am able to search and display apps.. in software center but unable to download them... install button is missing.. can anyone provide some feedback.. someone mentioned it depended on the bit version that i am running.
[07:16] <uncmar> brianherman: fuzzykittens left.
[07:16] <myremixhelp> how to run repository online?
[07:16] <uncmar> sumoduno: what is that? a cache cleaner?
[07:17] <sumoduno> uncmar yea.
 well for windows it is crap cleaner. it cleans like the registry and what not
[07:18] <Moc> How do I remove a package, but the i386 arch only of the package ?
[07:18] <mediaprodigy> Also, i run Computer Janitor and i get the following message: "Essential package dash is missing. There may be problems with apt source.list or Packages files may be missing? can anyone provide any assistance or insight?
[07:18] <crash21081> What's the difference between /dev/ttyS1 and /dev/ttyHS1 ?
[07:18] <iflema> myremixhelp: try the application cheese.. if cam works then ya on.
[07:18] <iflema> myremixhelp: janitor can be risky... yeah
[07:18] <uncmar> sumoduno: well, ubuntu doesn't have a registry.  the /tmp/ folder is wiped new everytime you start.   Isn't that a shell?
[07:20] <iflema> myremixhelp: do you have little free harddrive space? if not avoid that one i say... janitor that is
[07:21] <uncmar> sumoduno: you used remove?
[07:21] <steven_> Is oodraw supposed to be the oo's replacement for Adobe Illustrator?  It appears to me.
[07:21] <mneptok> mediaprodigy: what does "which dash" tell you?
[07:21] <ian_> is there something i said to offend someone?  if so, i promise it wasn't intentional.
 from synaptic
[07:21] <uncmar> sumoduno: I bet you didn't go cli.  Humm, used synaptic. Hmm. you don't want to remove those programs you want to purge them.
[07:22] <uncmar> ian_: so it is a laptop?
[07:22] <ian_> yeah
[07:22] <Xfact> when the Lcuid lynxwill out then direct update to it from hardy will be possible?
[07:22] <c_nick> I finished with dd then i rebooted.. i checked the booting priority i got a grub menu and in that it gave me 4 options.. when i selected the first it just generally booted
[07:22] <mneptok> Xfact: yes
 whats the command to uninstall from cli?
[07:22] <c_nick> it was not like any other stuff like Install Ubuntu or Run Ubuntu without making any changes
[07:22] <c_nick> etc
[07:23] <c_nick> plus the file system now is isofs
[07:23] <uncmar> ian_: did you use an noapic or no acpi switch during install for any reason?  Sounds like Power Management is disabled.
[07:23] <Xfact> oh! then it's easier then updating again and again to normal releases 8.10>9.04 then finally 9.10!
[07:23] <c_nick> iflema, your site.. i followed and i got this.. cau you help me out
[07:23] <crash21081> Excuse me.  Can I forward the port /dev/ttyHS1 to /dev/ttyS1?
[07:23] <iflema> c_nick: i did say ittl leave you no free space..
[07:24] <ian_> well i didn't notice actually, i just installed it with all of the default settings.
[07:24] <uncmar> sumoduno: sudo apt-get purge program-package; sudo apt-get autoremove
[07:24] <mediaprodigy> mneptok: i am new to ubuntu so i am still learning about it..
[07:24] <mneptok> mediaprodigy: type "which dash" (no quotes) in a terminal
[07:24] <iflema> c_nick: its just like a cdrom
[07:24] <mediaprodigy> mneptok: just got it installed.. and i am trying to install a vnc solution.. but not sure if these errors are normal
[07:24] <c_nick> iflema,  but that also is not working.. like in the earlier it said replace isolinux with syslinux
[07:25] <c_nick> this has syslinux if i try to edit it say read only medium
 ah yes. thank you. ill do that from now on
[07:25] <Xfact> anybody knows any cool games for ubuntu to time pass?
 runescape. LOL
[07:26] <ian_> but i did notice something about apic in the installation menu.
[07:26] <mneptok> Xfact: i've been playing Maelstrom for ~17 years :)
[07:26] <iflema> c_nick: arghh... extract iso, mess with whatever, mkisofs back together and dd
[07:26] <sumoduno> oh another question. i have 2 dvds and i want to create one iso file from it. what programs do u guys recommend?
[07:26] <uncmar> Xfact: any game involving a penguin would be cool cause pengiuns live in cold areas and are always cool.
[07:26] <iflema> c_nick: ive missed the earlier part of ya conversation. sorry
[07:26] <mediaprodigy> mneptok: /bin/dash
[07:27] <mneptok> mediaprodigy: so it's obviously not missing
[07:27] <mneptok> mediaprodigy: that Computer Janitor app has severe problems, IMO. i'd never use nor recommend it.
[07:27] <c_nick> iflema, ??
[07:27] <c_nick> extract iso?
[07:28] <mediaprodigy> mneptok: well i was trying to figure out why the software center displays apps but no install buttons
[07:28] <uncmar> c_nick: problem with mkisofs may not keep the boot flag intact when creating the iso.
[07:28] <Xfact> uncmar: best one!
[07:28] <iflema> c_nick: right click on the image file if ya in gnome and open with archive manager
[07:29] <mediaprodigy> mneptok: so i was trying to determine what bit version i have.. someone mentioned it might have something to do with it..
[07:29] <mneptok> mediaprodigy: "bit version?"
[07:29] <chiisai> helloes. I just ran dist-upgrade to upgrade a few packages that had been held back for a while. this completed successfully (according to logs). now, whenever I boot, nothing happens after "* Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables." (the tables are fine). the last line of dmesg is always "EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with writeback data mode." (the filesystems are also fine, I've ran fsck). so, it appears the boot proces
[07:29] <c_nick> ok n
[07:30] <mediaprodigy> mneptok: 32 bit vs 64 bit... or maybe they were pulling my leg.
[07:30] <c_nick> hmm ok
[07:30] <c_nick> i got you iflema
[07:30] <mneptok> mediaprodigy: uname -a
[07:30] <iflema> c_nick: sorry to put off ya mission
[07:31] <c_nick> iflema, how  to mkisofile from the extracted one
[07:31] <mneptok> mediaprodigy: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:31] <iflema> c_nick: i seen another graphical app on the link i sent earlier you try that?
[07:31] <c_nick> yea
[07:31] <Xfact> mealstrom is not a good game (i think)
[07:31] <c_nick> but does not good
[07:31] <iflema> c_nick: man mkisofs
[07:31] <Xfact> How is Aline Ariana ?
[07:31] <mediaprodigy> mneptok: 2.5.31-14-generic #48
[07:31] <iflema> c_nick woops
[07:32] <ian_> i'm still very new with using ubuntu, and the only reason i've installed it so many times is because i've experimented with doing things with the terminal, so it's not because i'm annoyed or anything, i just like to try things different ways pretty much.  :)
[07:32] <Xfact> anybody please suggest me a good game to pass my boring times :)
[07:32] <zamboli> lagno
[07:32] <uncmar> ian_: cat /prroc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state | grep "ging stat"
[07:32] <iflema> c_nick: its there but noi man pages
[07:32] <uncmar> ian_: cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state | grep "ging stat"
[07:32] <Xfact> ???
[07:33] <sumoduno> i have 2 dvds and i want to create one iso file from it. what programs do u guys recommend?
[07:33] <mneptok> Xfact: sudo apt-get install wesnoth-all
[07:33] <ian_> thanks, i'll try that.
[07:33] <zamboli> i can't beat the computer in lagno
[07:33] <c_nick> Xfact,  how about videogames
[07:33] <c_nick> you have dosbox installed.. then just find the videogames online and start playing
[07:33] <mediaprodigy> mneptok: thanks.. i hope it fixes it.. cheers
[07:34] <Xfact> c_nick: any cool game that plays on Ubuntu
[07:34] <c_nick> nice games like kungfu fighter etc
[07:34] <mneptok> mediaprodigy: np
[07:34] <uncmar> Xfact: I tend to play soduko.
[07:34] <iflema> Xfact: age?
[07:34] <zamboli> chess
[07:34] <iflema> Xfact: theres a good fps
[07:34] <Xfact> I am 13 but I've already player GTA san Andres  (so i think it doesn't matter) :)
[07:35] <Xfact> *played
[07:35] <iflema> Xfact nexuiz
[07:35] <DaZ> urban terror <:
[07:35] <uncmar> ian_: that will only display your charging status.  In otherwords whether you have a battery or not.
[07:35] <Xfact> iflema: it should not be kid game....
[07:35] <Xfact> looking....
[07:35] <iflema> Xfact: its not
[07:35] <mindstorm> if you like FPS games, nexuiz is nice
[07:35] <Xfact> thanks for suggestions :0
[07:35] <ian_> it says charging state: discharging
[07:35] <uncmar> ian_: charging state:     charging
[07:36] <uncmar> ian_: cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
[07:36] <afroman> hello. I have screen tearing problem, especially when watching videos. I have ati radeon mobility hd 3470
[07:37] <nomad77>  /cl
[07:37] <uncmar> ian_: do it again a few seconds later and see if the present voltage value decreases.
[07:37] <jellow> Xfact try tremulous aswell or enermy trritory
[07:37] <BlackCow> so i updated from 9.04 to 9.10, it totally borked my install, when i try to boot it up it says something about a mountall errror terminated with status 127
[07:37] <Xfact> currently installing game 'wesnorth' I hope it'll be a cool game :)
[07:37] <jellow> Xfact: enemy territory*
[07:37] <BlackCow> anyone else run into that problem? I searched forums and people just said to reformat
[07:38] <Xfact> jellow: thanks
[07:38] <ian_> yeah it did a little bit, actually it seems to be working fine right now, but i can suspend it and see if it causes the problem again.
[07:38] <Xfact> all games on count...I'll install all 1 by 1
[07:38] <afroman> anybody can help me with screen tearing?
[07:38] <uncmar> BlackCow: ouch, I would try to recover any data I could before a reformat.
[07:39] <uncmar> ian_: um, if it says discharging, then the AC does not appear to be attached and you are running on battery.
[07:39] <iflema> Xfact: flight gear, billard, warsow, chromium... try chromium.
[07:39] <BlackCow> yeah, my important stuff is backed up on my other partition, im sure i could boot up on back track to make sure i have everything, i just dont think i can trust an upgrade anymore :-/
[07:40] <Xfact> yes, my I am also sick of 'screen tearing' can anybody tell me why it' happening and how to remove it?
[07:40] <ian_> yes i am, but it shows the battery icon right now like it should.  but whenever my computer wakes up after being suspended, it doesn't show the battery icon at all, and it shows the power source as ac under the power menu.
[07:40] <sebsebseb> BlackCow: 9.04  to 9.10 upgrades,  yes those are known to go bad.  upgrading useually is fine though
[07:40] <iflema> Xfact: you got 3d eabled?
[07:40] <uncmar> BlackCow: oh, well, I never have.  I had too many problems with Windows upgrades in the past.
[07:41] <sebsebseb> BlackCow: those Ext3 9.04 installs won't be converted to Ext4 on upgrade, and no Grub 2 either on upgrade
[07:41] <Xfact> iflema: I guess it's enabled in default, but how to check it weather it's enabled or not?
[07:41] <Xfact> *by default
[07:42] <iflema> Xfact: argh usually no. nvidia ati intel... what u got  4 graphics
[07:42] <BlackCow> is that the reason why, because i know my 9.04 install was on Ext3, does it screw up trying to go to Ext4?
[07:42] <c_nick> iflema, how to make a iso file from a folder
[07:42] <c_nick> i tried with man mkisofs gave error
[07:42] <uncmar> Xfact: lspci | grep VGA
[07:42] <Fog> how come in compiz when I hold alt and scroll-wheel down it doens't decrease the window's opacity?
[07:42] <Xfact> I use Nvidia Gforec 6100 nForec 405 graphic card with 256 Mb graphic ram...
[07:43] <ian_> and it also doesn't dim the display.
[07:43] <iflema> Xfact the sytem menu / administration / hardware drivers
[07:43] <Xfact> and I am also having latest driver for it
[07:43] <iflema> c_nick: whatd it say?
[07:43] <c_nick> e 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available.
[07:43] <Xfact> iflema: yes the driver is already enabled....
[07:43] <uncmar> ian_: lucky you.  I don't think I can suspend my laptop.
[07:43] <sebsebseb> BlackCow: no  it does not even try to upgrade to Ext4
[07:43] <iflema> Xfact: tearing?
[07:44] <sebsebseb> BlackCow: it's other things why it didn't go well, but I am not sure what exactly
[07:44] <Xfact> iflema: should i change some settings on 'nvidia X server control panel'?
[07:44] <Christoph_vW> sarg (squid analysis report generator) is completely unusable in ubuntu 9.10 :/  can someone update it to version 2.2.6?
[07:44] <iflema> Xfact: hard to say..
[07:44] <Xfact> iflema: yes tearing sometimes with desktop (compiz) animations or with video playing...(mainly in fast movements)
[07:45] <iflema> c_nick: ill google how to mkisofs.. i forget
[07:45] <c_nick> mkisofs -o cd.iso cd_dir
[07:45] <Xfact> anybody can help...cause I think it's not a uncommon problem
[07:45] <c_nick> here they are stating an option -R -r
[07:45] <c_nick> i am not able to understand what to chose and how to go about it..
[07:46] <iflema> c_nick: http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/mkisofs8.html
[07:46] <ian_> it's not really a big deal i guess, but thanks for helping me anyways.
[07:46] <sebsebseb> BlackCow: have a look at the release notes to find out about some of the 9.10 issues
[07:46] <sebsebseb> !9.10 | BlackCow
[07:46] <uncmar> ian_: I use to could hibernate but it throws errors now. :(
[07:47] <iflema>  Xfact: you have the power? cpu, ram etc....
[07:47]  * uncmar installed conky and doesn't know how to use it.
[07:47] <ian_> see my solution to that would be a reinstall, but i'll probably end up damaging my disc drive eventually or something.  haha.
[07:47] <BlackCow> ive got the partition mounted in backtrack right now, besides my home directory can i back up any gnome settings?
[07:48] <uncmar> ian_: I didn't reinstall.  From fluxbuntu 7.10 to ubuntu 9.04.  it worked under 7.10 but not 9.04
[07:49] <Xfact> iflema: what kind of power, I have 2.01 GHz AMD atlon CPU with 1 GB DDR II ram and realtek HD sound card and that Nvidia card like other normal normal computers
[07:49] <ian_> oh okay, actually my sound didn't work with 9.04, but it works with 9.10.
[07:49] <hRedBeard> hi all
[07:50] <hRedBeard> Anyone see or know of an gnome app to manage multiple SSHFS mounts?
[07:50] <hRedBeard> even KDE would be OK
[07:50] <iflema> Xfact: just checkn the fundamentals...
[07:51] <Xfact> : : : : : : : : :
[07:51] <uncmar> hibernate:warning: Tuxonice binary signature file not found.
[07:51] <uncmar> Some modules failed to unload: nvidia
[07:51] <uncmar> hibernate: Aborting suspend due to errors in ModulesUnloadBlacklist
[07:51] <c_nick> iflema, so i go mkisofs -o mycd.iso /home/me/file will it work
[07:52] <iflema> Xfact: to make iso with alternate contents... if its the man its in the man
[07:52] <Xfact> [[07:52] <Xfact>
[07:53] <Xfact> iflema: Actually I don't understand anything,,,, remember I am just 13
[07:54] <Xfact> well thanks .... i would google about it...
[07:54] <uncmar> That explains the gaming questions.
[07:59] <gravityblock> hi
[08:00] <paykoob> hi all. what's the best software for edit MP3 tags?
[08:02] <iflema>  paykoob: Ex Falso does just fine
[08:03] <iflema>  paykoob: and all the media players/most
[08:05] <paykoob> iflema: thanks all
[08:05] <militant> what's the quickest little cmdline tool to convert a flac to an mp3?  i'm only gonna use it once on like a 3 second file
[08:05] <Alan502> paykoob, amarok has an auto mp3 tagger
[08:06] <c_nick> no luck
[08:06] <crash21081> militant:  ffmpeg -f file.flac file.mp3  Something like that.
[08:06] <militant> crash21081, sweet thx
[08:06] <crash21081> I forget the flag.
[08:06] <crash21081> So you have to fix it yourself.
[08:07] <Maletor> should i put ext4 on my flash drive?
[08:07] <MASARUwota> if you dont want windows to be able to read it, YES
[08:08] <c_nick> iflema: help me
[08:08] <Maletor> F$CK msft as far as i'm concerned
[08:08] <MASARUwota> Maletor: =)
[08:08] <c_nick> damn thing does not work
[08:08] <MASARUwota> c_nick: whats happening?
[08:08] <MASARUwota> !doesntwork|c_nick
[08:08] <c_nick> cant create a usb bootable
[08:09] <MASARUwota> c_nick: ON ubuntu
[08:09] <c_nick> yes
[08:09] <MASARUwota> k
[08:09] <Maletor> It's pretty funny in Ubuntu I have to adjust for overscan but in Windows 7 I have underscan. Go figure.
[08:10] <c_nick> MASARUwota: i tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB%20Installation%20Media
[08:11] <MASARUwota> c_nick: thats  for windows, to create an ubuntu bootable disk
[08:11] <MASARUwota> :/
[08:11] <c_nick> huh
[08:11] <c_nick> scroll down :)
[08:11] <MASARUwota> c_nick: or the second one? :p
[08:11] <MASARUwota> LOL nvm :X
[08:11] <c_nick> both
[08:12] <MASARUwota> c_nick: do you get errors or what?
[08:12] <c_nick> no errors
[08:12] <MASARUwota> c_nick: so, it works? :/
[08:12] <c_nick> it just does not boot from usb
[08:12] <c_nick> i saw in bootmenu everything etc
[08:13] <MASARUwota> c_nick: so you set the BIOS up right?
[08:13] <c_nick> duh yea
[08:13] <MASARUwota> c_nick: just checking ;)
[08:13] <ugliefrog__> whats the command to got to cli mode and then come back...hope that made since
[08:14] <MASARUwota> ugliefrog__: ctrl+alt+backspace, i think, is to kill X
[08:14] <MASARUwota> ugliefrog__: then just logout and log in to reset X, and you can use it again
[08:14] <c_nick> so can someone help me ?
[08:14] <ugliefrog__> MASARUwota, thanks ill give it a try
[08:15] <MASARUwota> c_nick: well, its the least busy time of the day. europeans are at work and americans are sleeping
[08:15] <rzm61_> How would you go about changing the boot order on a dual boot ubuntu box?
[08:15] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: what do you want to accomplish?
[08:15] <rzm61_> boot regular Ubuntu 9.10 first instead of Ubuntu Studio
[08:15] <MASARUwota> whats with all the underscores in peoples name :/
[08:15] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: both show up in your GRUB?
[08:16] <ugliefrog__> MASARUwota, ive got a cli browsser and wanted to see how it performed in cli....curious
[08:16] <rzm61_> Yeah, with a ton of options as well. Is that normal?
[08:16] <MASARUwota> ugliefrog__: just open a terminal then :p
[08:16] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: you installed ubuntu studio LAST?
[08:16] <ugliefrog__> MASARUwota, lol...ive done that...wanted to see it in pure cli
[08:16] <Ilmatic> How do you mask your user info in these chat rooms?
[08:16] <nuker> y0
[08:17] <Ilmatic> I feel so exposed..
[08:17] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: yeah it probably is normal
[08:17] <rzm61_> Yes. Is that going to be a problem?
[08:17] <rzm61_> I figured
[08:17] <nuker> hello
[08:17] <nuker> ♥
[08:17] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: ask for a cloak in #freenode, i think
[08:17] <ugliefrog__> i know theres a way to go back in forth from x to cli just cant remeber the commands
[08:17] <Ilmatic> What the heck is #freenode?
[08:17] <faileas> ugliefrog__: easy way is control alternate f1 to f6
[08:17] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: the main channel of freenode irc :/
[08:17] <MASARUwota> make snese doesnt it
[08:18] <faileas> ugliefrog__:  ctrl alt f7 will bring you back to the x session you were on
[08:18] <ugliefrog__> faileas, thats it...ty
[08:18] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: edit your menu.lst file and just select and pull it under the other options
[08:18] <MASARUwota> :/
[08:19] <acamilo> Hello, i have a mildly random question regarding ipv6. ping6 wont accept a link-local fe80 address unless i specify the interface. however, it will acccept ::1 . Is this because i have two interfaces both with link local addresses?
[08:19] <rzm61_> okay, and here is a colorful question....where would I find the menu.lst? Should I open it through the terminal?
[08:19] <faileas> er.. if its the latest, there's no menu.lst ;p
[08:19] <nuker> hey can i open iso to ext3 drive and install the grub and save changes to menu.lst its work for me i don't have dvd drive
[08:19] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: its an editable file, i suggest opening gedit as root: open a terminal and type: gksudo gedit
[08:20] <MASARUwota> does ubuntu studio use grub1 or grub2? :/
[08:20] <Ilmatic> Masaru: do I just go in there and ask for one?
[08:20] <rzm61_> Alright, so far so good
[08:20] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: the file is probably /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:20] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: thats what i did =)
[08:21] <rzm61_> Alright, let me take a look
[08:21] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: PLEASE back it up first D:
[08:21] <nuker> :(
[08:21] <rzm61_> as in save it?
[08:21] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: yeah, just save it next to it like menu.lst.backup or something
[08:21] <rzm61_> before i make changes of course
[08:21] <MASARUwota> yeah :p
[08:21] <faileas> rzm61_: under another name. if bad things happen you can change it back with a livecd
[08:22] <rzm61_> yeah
[08:22] <nuker> bye
[08:22] <rzm61_> this is going to be fun
[08:22] <rzm61_> I love dicking around with Ubuntu
[08:22] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: =)
[08:22] <nuker> lulz
[08:22] <kamiro87> Hello, I'm having some trouble with the latest version of ubuntu and a nvidia GeForce 6600 graphics card. i get a siaplay full of random collored blocks.
[08:22] <rzm61_> by the way I'm brand new to all of this
[08:22] <MASARUwota> !aimtalk|nuker
[08:22] <Ilmatic> Hey how do I talk on that channel?
[08:22] <MASARUwota> !aimspeak|nuker
[08:23] <Ilmatic> Keeps on telling me to register with services
[08:23] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: REGISTER first then
[08:23] <MASARUwota> :/
[08:23] <Ilmatic> But how
[08:23] <Ilmatic> What commands I mean.
[08:23] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic, youre probably using xchat or something, so go to your server tab
[08:23] <nuker> :(
[08:24] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: type /msg nickserv REGISTER
[08:24] <nuker> i want to install backtrac but i don't have dvd drive :(
[08:24] <MASARUwota> itll giev you an explanation of what to type, i think
[08:24] <MASARUwota> nuker: ask #linux
[08:24] <MASARUwota> also, backtrack is for wannabe CRACKZORZ
[08:24] <MASARUwota> !cracking|nuker
[08:25] <MASARUwota> :/
[08:25] <MASARUwota> wrong one
[08:25] <MASARUwota> !hacker|nuker
[08:25] <MASARUwota> thats what i wanted to trigger =)
[08:25] <crash2108> Does anyone here know about GPSD?
[08:26] <faileas> nuker: not really on topic but you can get it running using unetbootin- which runs on ubuntu. however, i think anyone who wants to learn the internals of a computer would know that ;)
[08:26] <Ilmatic> Hey masar
[08:26] <Ilmatic> it says I'm not logged in
[08:26] <Ilmatic> what the heck..
[08:26] <nuker> ok :)
[08:26] <faileas> MASARUwota: well, its meant for forensics, which is not as sexy as tv makes it look ;p
[08:27] <MASARUwota> faileas: :/ "forensics"
[08:27] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: let me google
[08:27] <ugliefro1> i love ubuntu...it reminds me of the good old days of dos
[08:27] <Ilmatic> k
[08:27] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: /msg nickserv register <your-password> <your-email>
[08:27] <domino14> i'm watching a movie on vlc and it just keeps hiccuping, the audio skips and the video gets jagged, and my cpu load is at ~7% for each of the two cores, only 31% memory usage of 2 GB, nothing crazy running, what could be going on?
[08:27] <c_nick> dos rocked..
[08:27] <ugliefro1> cant believe im excited about runnung things in cli
[08:27] <nuker> thanks guys bye
[08:27] <faileas> MASARUwota: i do mean actually forensics and incident response
[08:27] <Ilmatic> err..does it have to be legit?
[08:27] <MASARUwota> domino14: vlc uses build-in codecs, it is known for acting weird. lol
[08:28] <faileas> which is utterly dry ;p
[08:28] <c_nick> It used to make me feel like a god amongst all my coll girl friends.. even though all i was doing was cls cd folder go in and in and in ;)
[08:28] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: yeah
[08:28] <ugliefro1> wow u can build a really low end machine using just cli
[08:28] <w3lly> i do have a question. which week number do we have?
[08:28] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: you need to check it
[08:28] <faileas> hmm
[08:28] <MASARUwota> w3lly: offtopic. lol
[08:28] <MASARUwota> w3lly: also, week 1 i think
[08:29] <faileas> what's the name of that package you need on a livecd to make it installable?
[08:29] <yiggor> 2
[08:29] <MASARUwota> :/
[08:29] <c_nick> faileas: u just click on it on desktop
[08:29] <faileas> c_nick: i'm trying to make my own. not sure if remastersys supplies it
[08:29] <MASARUwota> oh whow, i love having to use internet explorer at work, it just crashed out of a sudden, i wasnt even using it for 5 minutes :/
[08:29] <Gumby> hi all.  I am trying to run something and is coming back with a perl error telling me it cant find SI/Parse.pm  anyone know what package this might be in?
[08:30] <Ilmatic> Wait, so is it asking me for the email and password I use to log in on ubuntu forums?
[08:30] <faileas> MASARUwota: eheh. which one? 6?
[08:30] <c_nick> MASARUwota: on this site http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/4-ways-to-create-bootable-live-usb.html i am following option 3.. Cmd Line now tell me do i have to rename the isolinux with syslinux
[08:30] <MASARUwota> faileas: 7 actually
[08:30] <xiaomai> i've mounted an nfs partition rw, but when i attempt to write to that partition (as root), i get permission denied errors.  how can that be?
[08:30] <c_nick> xiaomai: try with sudo
[08:30] <faileas> MASARUwota: ahh. that's what i have in my windows boxen. never use it tho ;p
[08:31] <MASARUwota> faileas: you should be really happy :X its a pain in the ass
[08:31] <faileas> MASARUwota: small company. i use EVERY single incident to move my users towards... more sensible options
[08:31] <c_nick> i need someone to help me
[08:31] <MASARUwota> faileas: people like you help make this world a better place =)
[08:32] <faileas> MASARUwota: oh, if only i could move them to linux ;p
[08:32] <DryGrain> !ask | c_nick
[08:32] <MASARUwota> faileas: lol
[08:32] <kinja-sheep> faileas: No wonder why your small company remains small. :-)
[08:32] <faileas> c_nick: any particular reason you're using the cli? also that method ONLY withs with a img - an image
[08:33] <faileas> kinja-sheep: er.. family business, and very specialised
[08:33] <c_nick> nope
[08:33] <c_nick> but all i want to know is .. in the cd there is isolinux .. but it said on ubuntu forum that isolinux has to be replace with syslinux
[08:33] <faileas> c_nick: and that won't work with an iso. syslinux and isolinux are not the same
[08:33] <c_nick> do i have to do that
[08:33] <faileas> c_nick: yes. syslinux is for usb. isolinux is for isos
[08:34] <Tniffoc> Off topic but I love how I just owned Antivirus live on my friend's comp. Professional help didn't get it but I beat it in 10 mins with only 1 CD. A live CD for Ubunut
[08:34] <MASARUwota> Tniffoc: =)
[08:35] <faileas> kinja-sheep: we pretty much are consultants - we hire who we need, when we need em, and work anywhere we are needed. so we have very few permanant staff
[08:35] <MASARUwota> faileas: got any job openings?
[08:35] <faileas> kinja-sheep: 2 engineers, a tech, a PA, and a small dog
[08:35] <Fragsworth> Ok hulu stopped working, ubuntu 9.10... apparently I need a new flash
[08:35] <Fragsworth> how do I install it?
[08:35] <MASARUwota> faileas: just kidding :p
[08:35] <Tniffoc> MASARUwota: He almost formatted his drive, then I was like... WTF? Just go in to linux, it will ignore the drive's security... Delete the virus files, then go into windows and restore your reg values... WIN
[08:35] <faileas> MASARUwota: well, the small dog often skips work... so there might be a vacancy... but i doubt you fit
[08:35] <kinja-sheep> faileas: o.O
[08:35] <MASARUwota> Fragsworth: go to the adobe flash download page and get the ubuntu .deb package
[08:36] <Fragsworth> MASARUwota: It is telling me bad platform; i386
[08:36] <ziroday> !offtopic
[08:36] <faileas> Tniffoc: i'd also have tried an AV livecd
[08:36] <faileas> >_>
[08:36] <Tniffoc> HOLY !@#$
[08:36] <MASARUwota> faileas: im dutch so i doubt i will be able to travel that far :p
[08:36] <ziroday> Tniffoc: please don't swear :) (yes asterisking it out still counts)
[08:37] <MASARUwota> !swearing
[08:37] <Tniffoc> ziroday: oh come on. this is in fact the internet...
[08:37] <faileas> lol
[08:37] <Fragsworth> When I try to install the .deb for the new flash player I get this error: "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'"
[08:37] <MASARUwota> Fragsworth: :/ get the correct package for your system then
[08:37] <Tniffoc> Fragsworth: Make sure to download the ubuntu one and not the windows one
[08:37] <ziroday> Fragsworth: are you currently using 32 or 64bit version of ubunut?
[08:37] <dtownhero> Fragsworth: you need the 64bit version
[08:37] <MASARUwota> Tniffoc: its a .deb, it cant be for windows
[08:38] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[08:38] <Fragsworth> I don't see that one available on Adobe's website...
[08:38] <dtownhero> Fragsworth: if you're using 9.10 you can grab it in add/remove software and search for flash
[08:38] <Tniffoc> MASARUwota: Oh. Sorry. I just came back from a 4 year break of having a life
[08:38] <OerHeks> use the flashplugin-installer in synaptic, it will install flash 10.0 r42
[08:38] <Fragsworth> dtownhero: I'll try that right now
[08:38] <MASARUwota> Fragsworth: what version of ubuntu are you running?
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[08:38] <Tniffoc> !download
[08:38] <MASARUwota> !flash
[08:39] <BlackCow> i was going to say, use the installer for flash in synaptic, i had the same issues on my 64 bit machine
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[08:39] <BlackCow> why is floodbot flooding the server lol
[08:39] <orkungunay> lol
[08:39] <mneptok> the Flash plugin provided by the repos is the i386 version, which also installs nspluginwrapper
[08:40] <Fragsworth> dtownhero: that worked, thanks
[08:41] <alyssum> how does ubuntu (8.04) handle the TTL of ping packets?  does it ever set it to a value different than 64?
[08:41] <BlackCow> its not the flash plugin you want out of the repo, its the flashplugin-installer that does the trick
[08:41] <mneptok> native x86_64 Flash is not yet out of beta. it has to be installed manually.
[08:41] <dtownhero> Fragsworth: np
[08:42] <Fragsworth> dtownhero: actually, it's only partially working. It seems buggy now, I can't click on things inside of the flash player
[08:42] <mneptok> BlackCow: flashplugin-installer installs the i386 version, even on 64-bit systems
[08:42] <OerHeks> mneptok not true
[08:43] <kinja-sheep> mneptok: True.
[08:43] <alyssum> also how can i check the *pong* packets that an ubuntu server is sending out?  is there any easy to use network traffic tool for this?
[08:44] <dtownhero> Fragsworth: did you get the adobe version?
[08:44] <Fragsworth> dtownhero: Yes
[08:44] <dtownhero> hmm did you restart the browser?
[08:44] <mneptok> OerHeks: most certainly true
[08:44] <Fragsworth> I can't make hulu videos fullscreen anymore in firefox
[08:44] <Fragsworth> I can't change volume, or do a number of things anymore
[08:45] <dtownhero> hmm I dunno I've never had that happen
[08:45] <Fragsworth> I can click on these new buttons... "next video" and "continuous play"
[08:45] <Fragsworth> but not on the normal stuff
[08:45] <dtownhero> oh hulu does bug out on me kinda sometimes
[08:45] <mneptok> Fragsworth: go to "about:plugins" in Firefox
[08:45] <OerHeks> flash installer installed <IP_ADDRESS> ( it's 64 bit ) and the 32 bit version is beyond 10.1
[08:45] <tayhe> hi everyone , my virtualbox cant catch my microphone, how can i fix this ?
[08:45] <Fragsworth> mneptok: Ok
[08:46] <mneptok> OerHeks: The following NEW packages will be installed:   flashplugin-installer nspluginwrapper
[08:46] <mneptok> OerHeks: if the plugin ewas native, i wouldn;t need nspluginwrapper
[08:46] <mneptok> Fragsworth: is the Adobe plugin the only Flash handler? no GNASH?
[08:47] <Fragsworth> mneptok: No GNASH.
[08:47] <Ilmatic> Hey, how do I get a cloak?
[08:47] <mneptok> Fragsworth: great
[08:47] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: try #freenode
[08:47] <mneptok> Fragsworth: download this  - http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-<IP_ADDRESS>.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[08:47] <maco> Ilmatic: ubuntu members are granted cloaks. otherwise, donating to freenode does it
[08:47] <morpheus_>  hi all
[08:47] <Ilmatic> do I just go in the channel and ask for one?
[08:47] <maverick_> my dns keeps changing automatically in resolv.conf after restart even if i try to change it manually :(
[08:48] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: you can get a cloak without donating simply by asking a freenode staffer
[08:48] <mneptok> Fragsworth: tell me when you have it.
[08:48] <tayhe> hi everyone , my virtualbox cant catch my microphone, how can i fix this ? any suggestion?
[08:48] <scyx> hi, does anyone know how i can start programs after connecting to a wlan successfully?
[08:48] <Fragsworth> mneptok: I got it
[08:48] <Gumby> does anyone know where I might find theperl module to solve this problem "Can't locate SI/Parse.pm in @INC"
[08:48] <Fragsworth> mneptok: What do I do with the .so file?
[08:49] <mneptok> Fragsworth: close Firefox. open a terminal and paste "sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer nspluginwrapper"
[08:49] <mneptok> Fragsworth: (no quotes)
[08:49] <Fragsworth> mneptok: done
[08:50] <mneptok> Fragsworth: when that's done, restart Firefox and check about:plugins
[08:50] <morpheus_> after compiling core <IP_ADDRESS> nvidia drivers not installing, log: http://pastebin.com/d59acea2e
[08:50] <mneptok> Fragsworth: make sure Flash is gone
[08:50] <Ilmatic> Do staff members ignore people purposely or is it just me?
[08:50] <Fragsworth> mneptok: I have another flash
[08:50] <maverick_> my dns keeps changing automatically in resolv.conf after restart even if i try to change it manually :(..i have uninstalled network manager too..any ideas?
[08:50] <Ilmatic> No one has responded yet.
[08:50] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[08:50] <mneptok> Fragsworth: where did it come from?
[08:50] <Fragsworth> mneptok: Shockwave Flash 10.0 d20
[08:51] <mneptok> Fragsworth: did you install a .deb from Adobe?
[08:51] <Fragsworth> I may have done that
[08:51] <morpheus_> help plz, after compiling core <IP_ADDRESS> nvidia drivers not installing, log: http://pastebin.com/d59acea2e
[08:52] <mneptok> Fragsworth: open your home directory
[08:52] <Fragsworth> mneptok: ok
[08:52] <mneptok> Fragsworth: hot ctl-h to show hidden files. open ".mozilla/plugins"
[08:52] <mneptok> Fragsworth: what's in there?
[08:53] <Fragsworth> .mozilla does not contain a plugins folder/file
[08:53] <smokey> i installed ubuntu linux on the my pc and i create an unrealirc with it
[08:53] <Fragsworth> there is .mozilla/extensions and .mozilla/firefox
[08:53] <mneptok> Fragsworth: then whatever plugin you have is installed globally
[08:53] <scyx> hi, does anyone know how i can start programs after connecting to a wlan successfully?
[08:54] <mneptok> Fragsworth: try "grep ash ~/,bash_history"
[08:54] <mneptok> Fragsworth: got a line there containing "dpkg -i" ?
[08:54] <nizua> so I ran "apt-get upgrade" on jaunty and now wireless networking is hosed
[08:54] <mneptok> Fragsworth: try "grep ash ~/.bash_history"
[08:54] <mneptok> Fragsworth: sorry, typo
[08:54] <Fragsworth> mneptok: history isn't long enough
[08:55] <maverick_> if i try to start wicd, i get this error: Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface.  Check the wicd log for error messages. any ideas?
[08:55] <Fragsworth> mneptok: I think I can try to take it from here
[08:55] <mneptok> Fragsworth: well, you have a package installed and i don;t know its name.
[08:55] <mneptok> Fragsworth: so i can;t help you uninstall it
[08:55] <morpheus_> help plz, after compiling core <IP_ADDRESS> nvidia drivers not installing, log: http://pastebin.com/d59acea2e
[08:55] <smokey> [11:01:08] <smokey> i installed ubuntu linux on the my pc and i create an unrealirc with it
[08:55] <ardchoille> Fragsworth: try "gedit ~/.bash_history" and then control+f and search for flash
[08:55] <Fragsworth> mneptok: thanks for your help
[08:55] <nizua> then I downloaded the alternate cd which upgrades without the internet from what I read yet it keeps trying to connect to the internet.
[08:55] <mneptok> Fragsworth: the shared object file for the 64-bit Flash beat goes in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[08:56] <mobal> hi
[08:56] <MASARUwota> !hi|mobal
[08:56] <kinja-sheep> mneptok: Thanks for the updated link. My libflashplayer.so is now at Shockwave Flash 10.0 r42 instead of 10.0 r32
[08:57] <mobal> need some help. ubuntu server 9.10. i got an error when wants to try logwatch. "sudo logwatch" Can not open HTML Header at /usr/share... no such file or directory
[08:57] <mneptok> kinja-sheep: rawk
[08:57] <MASARUwota> mobal: you need a file in there
[08:57] <mobal> ohh
[08:58] <Sacho> why does free show 99% of memory used, but when I run top I can add up the memory usage to about 10%?
[08:58] <mneptok> Sacho: http://linuxatemyram.com
[08:58] <nizua> so anywyay, to rephrase my question is: is there a way to upgrade from jaunty to karmic without becoming a homosexual?
[08:58] <Fragsworth> mneptok: is there a global mozilla plugin folder?
[08:59] <mobal> hmm
[08:59] <Sacho> ah I see
[09:00] <Sacho> well it seems my pc is having lag spikes, and I can't really determine why, since cpu/mem usage are low-ish
[09:00] <mneptok> Fragsworth: try /usr/share/mozilla
[09:00] <maverick_> my dns keeps changing automatically in resolv.conf after restart even if i try to change it manually :(
[09:00] <ardchoille> mneptok: I wonder if he's got anything in  /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer
[09:00] <Ilmatic> what the heckkkkkk
[09:01] <mneptok> ardchoille: no idea. i'm using 64-bit Ubuntu and the native plugin beta.
[09:01] <ardchoille> maverick_: I had that problem too, turned out it was due to the cheapie router I'm using
[09:01] <FluxD> Is it possible to select certain packages to install from group packages like build-essential and ubuntu-desktop ?
[09:01] <mobal> now it says: Can not open HTML footer at /usr/share... logwatch too. But thanks for the help yes i now created header.html
[09:02] <maverick_> ardchollie: my system was fine until i screwed around with the settings, some piece of software is doing it, i dont think the hardware is responsible
[09:02] <Fragsworth> mneptok: I have a libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[09:02] <Fragsworth> mneptok: Is it safe to delete this?
[09:02] <ardchoille> maverick_: Ah, ok
[09:02] <mneptok> Fragsworth: yessah
[09:02] <maverick_> ardchollie: i cant even get wicd to run :(
[09:02] <tayhe> can you use microphone in virtualbox ?
[09:02] <kinja-sheep> maverick_: You could make the file read-only. Just a thought.
[09:03] <maverick_> kinja-sheep: tried that too, no avail
[09:03] <MASARUwota> tayhe: #vbox
[09:03] <ardchoille> kinja-sheep: didn't work for me, root could still edit it, I had to chattr +i mine
[09:03] <Ilmatic> what the heck
[09:03] <tayhe> MASARUwota: thanks
[09:03] <Ilmatic> there are no staff members online currently?
[09:03] <kinja-sheep> maverick_: Here you go. Use ardchoille's advice. Make it immutable!
[09:03] <Ilmatic> i want a frikkin cloakkkk
[09:04] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: wait then :/
[09:04] <maco> Ilmatic: whinging here won't help
[09:04] <Ilmatic> i know but..
[09:04] <Ilmatic> there's not much else I can do..
[09:04] <MASARUwota> !offtopic|Ilmatic
[09:04] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: you can whine on #freenode ;)
[09:04] <maverick_> kinja-sheep: the thing is i cant get any network config tool to run properly
[09:04] <Ilmatic> lol
[09:05] <iflema> tayhe: what you running in vbox....sorry... but first make sure mic is not muted on virtmach
[09:05] <morpheus_> help plz, after compiling core <IP_ADDRESS> nvidia drivers not installing, log: http://pastebin.com/d59acea2e
[09:06] <DryGrain> i am very very frustrated and require assistance with compiling JasPer from source.
[09:06] <tayhe> iflema: i'm sure that mic is chosed and not muted in host and guest
[09:06] <FluxD> Is it possible to select certain packages to install from group packages like build-essential and ubuntu-desktop ?
[09:06] <iflema> k
[09:06] <iceroot> FluxD: that are meta-packages
[09:06] <MASARUwota> morpheus_: the logs look good :/
[09:06] <DryGrain> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271188 <- i am using this for instructions, but when I run ./configure i get all sorts of errors
[09:06] <iceroot> FluxD: they just install many other packages
[09:07] <FluxD> iceroot, I wish to install ubuntu-desktop without open-ffice
[09:07] <kinja-sheep> FluxD: By installing all certain packages instead of using ubuntu-desktop.
[09:07] <MASARUwota> FluxD: yeah, just install the packages themselves instead of the metapackage
[09:07] <morpheus_> MASARUwota lol yes:)
[09:07] <FluxD> MASARUwota, kinja-sheep iceroot too many packages in the lsit :(
[09:07] <iceroot> FluxD: then you have to install all packages the meta-package is installing without openoffice
[09:07] <MASARUwota> FluxD: what do you want to install then?
[09:07] <kinja-sheep> FluxD: c0py 4nD p4st3
[09:07] <iceroot> FluxD: or install ubuntu-desktop and remove open-office
[09:07] <iflema> tayhe: what os is running virtually
[09:08] <FluxD> MASARUwota, kinja-sheep iceroot I have space issues 4 gb / and 3.1 already full
[09:09] <iceroot> FluxD: i give you a list, instead of using purge use install without openoffice
[09:10] <iceroot> !purekde | FluxD
[09:10] <MASARUwota> FluxD: what packages DO you want then?
[09:10] <iceroot> FluxD: there are all packages ubuntu-desktop is installing
[09:10] <DryGrain> What is my 'BUILD' type, as far as ./configure is concerned?
[09:10] <faileas> ... oh sweet. the livecd version of my ubuntu remix is 200+ mb only
[09:10] <user___> is anyone else having problems with services not starting recently? e.g. my cups server cant be started
[09:10] <FluxD> iceroot, MASARUwota openoffice is a big chunk so I think rest can be installed and thanks iceroot
[09:11] <DryGrain> ...anyone?
[09:11] <luckymurali> Hi how to add a windows based network printer to ubuntu???
[09:12] <MASARUwota> luckymurali: CUPS
[09:12] <luckymurali> i added it
[09:12] <MASARUwota> !cups
[09:12] <luckymurali> but still not working
[09:12] <DarkS7ar> hi all
[09:13] <luckymurali> thanks
[09:13] <user___> MASARUwota, my cups has recently stopped running, ive heard others are experiencing this too
[09:13] <MASARUwota> user___: search on the forums and launchpad
[09:15] <DryGrain> drygrain@bluebook:~/jasper-1.900.1$ sudo make install
[09:15] <DryGrain> Making install in src
[09:15] <DryGrain> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/drygrain/jasper-1.900.1/src'
[09:15] <DryGrain> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[09:15] <DryGrain> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/drygrain/jasper-1.900.1/src'
[09:15] <FloodBot3> DryGrain: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:15] <DryGrain> make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
[09:15] <alyssum> my understanding is the default TTL on ping packets to an Ubuntu system is set to 64.  is there any reason why ubuntu may set the TTL of ping packets to 128?
[09:15] <DryGrain> oh  lovely, i crtainly appreciate all the help i recieved befor i flooded
[09:15] <Wunderkind> can anyone understand this crap from my log- kernel ACPI: I/O resource 0000:00:1[0x18c0 - 0x18df] conflicts with ACPI region SMBI [0x18c0 - 0x18cf]
[09:15] <DryGrain> grand
[09:15] <error_name> HELLO! can i find a little help here?
[09:15] <DryGrain> i suppose i'll just dick around until it works or breaks
[09:15] <DryGrain> thanks
[09:16] <Wunderkind> and most importantly how do i fix it?
[09:16] <DryGrain> probably not error_name
[09:16] <Wunderkind> lol
[09:16] <error_name> so sad
[09:16] <Oyoz> HI GUYS,HOW CAN I INTALL NERO 4 UBUNTU 9.10
[09:16] <error_name> i have a strange problem
[09:16] <Wunderkind> describe
[09:17] <error_name> that im not sure if i can even explain it exactly
[09:17] <faileas> error_name: if you can't explain, how would we know?
[09:17] <kinja-sheep> Oyoz: Application --> Accessories --> CD/DVD Creator.
[09:17] <Wunderkind> tell us what you see
[09:17] <raven_> FFMPEG: how to add two wave-files (l.wav r.wav) to a video as stereo?
[09:17] <Wunderkind> or don't see
[09:17] <kinja-sheep> Oyoz: Applications --> Sound & Video --> Brasero.
[09:18] <error_name> faileas: i can try but dont know how exact would it be
[09:18] <ExtremePC> Good morning guys
[09:18] <error_name> well its resolution bug
[09:19] <Ilmatic> Yello
[09:19] <kinja-sheep> error_name: The only bug is that you can't commit to your 2010 resolutions. :-\
[09:19] <c_nick> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB%20Installation%20Media subtopic>"Creating bootable USB manually" here it said do syslinux -s /dev/sdxx then you get a bootable USB.. it should boot and give a boot prompt.. but it just gives boot error
[09:19] <kinja-sheep> !fixres | error_name (need more details).
[09:19] <DryGrain> good gravy
[09:19] <DryGrain> !make | DryGrain
[09:19] <iflema>  c_nick: do you have more usb dives?
[09:20] <Ilmatic> Hey people, am I cloaked?
[09:20] <DryGrain> !compile | DryGrain
[09:20] <c_nick> yea
[09:20] <error_name> i have notebook with 15,6" monitor which native reoslution is 1366x768. but when i try to start smth on full screen and its resolution isnt set to 1366x768,my screen is being split into 6 similar to each other screens
[09:20] <c_nick> why ?
[09:20] <DryGrain> help me bot
[09:20]  * DryGrain kicks ubottu
[09:20] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: You're not.
[09:20] <iflema> c_nick: im assuming youve tryed another.
[09:20] <Ilmatic> What the heck, that freenode staff said I was.
[09:20] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[09:20] <Ilmatic> Damn it..
[09:20] <c_nick> I already have another bootable... one..which someone else made
[09:21] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: Sign out and sign in.
[09:21] <iflema> wipe it... oooh. keen
[09:21] <ExtremePC> Every time I power up my ubuntu 9.19 machine I get an Error telling me ("cannot start ICEauthority")
[09:21] <c_nick> iflema: its not like that.. just try to think this way..
[09:21] <c_nick> : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB%20Installation%20Media subtopic>"Creating bootable USB manually" here it said do syslinux -s /dev/sdxx then you get a bootable USB.. it should boot and give a boot prompt.. but it just gives boot error
[09:22] <ardchoille> ExtremePC: you mean 9.10 ?
[09:22] <iflema> c_nick the graphical app built in to ubuntu s recent versions does the job...
[09:22] <ExtremePC> yes
[09:22] <iflema> .
[09:22] <ExtremePC> ardchoille: yes ;)
[09:22] <stillmatic> what the heck
[09:22] <iflema> c_nick: if after a reformat and a reimage it still no work.... argh... try another
[09:23] <error_name> i have notebook with 15,6" monitor which native reoslution is 1366x768. but when i try to start smth on full screen and its resolution isnt set to 1366x768,my screen is being split into 6 similar to each other screens
[09:23] <c_nick> whic one .. in System "make StartUp Disk"
[09:23] <error_name> can u help
[09:23] <DryGrain> wow nifty
[09:23] <kinja-sheep> stillmatic: Use the account you registered. Not random nicknames. Registration help available in #freenode
[09:24] <DryGrain> im so glad #ubuntu is so dependent on Synaptic now that no one can assist me with compiling a program from source
[09:24] <DryGrain> someone please put jasper into a package on the repositories and i'll shut up
[09:24] <iflema> c_nick: system/administraton/usb strtup dsk creator
[09:24] <DryGrain> until then i'm going to break my 'make' command
[09:24] <Ilmatic> hello
[09:24] <c_nick> ok will also give it a shoy
[09:24] <ExtremePC> ardchoille: howto solve that?
[09:25] <ardchoille> ExtremePC: I don't know
[09:25] <iflema> c_nick also?
[09:25] <gvandeweyer> hi, i have a question regarding xscreensaver. I've installed all and all seem to work fine. There is however something called 'dna logo' screensaver that's disabled. What's this and how can it be enabled?
[09:25] <Ilmatic> Hey is my user info still visible?
[09:25] <iflema> c_nick: again..
[09:25] <MASARUwota> gvandeweyer: some screensavers arent installed by default
[09:25] <gvandeweyer> I only found one mention on the interwebz, but nothing on how to install it (or which package they are in)
[09:25] <c_nick> yes iflema cause initially when i did that.. it worked but during installation to just went off
[09:25] <c_nick> got an error
[09:25] <roracle> hey guys, i have a problem with my sound.  i don't know what the model is, first off.  second, it doesn't work at all
[09:25] <c_nick> will try again
[09:26] <Ilmatic> Am I not cloaked yet?
[09:26] <roracle> it's a dell optiplex 330, it's at my workplace and my boss wanted to check out ubuntu
[09:26] <ExtremePC> ardchoille: and can you know what kind of problem I am dealing with?
[09:26] <shelby> Is there some traffic compression software available?
[09:26] <morpheus_> can i delete sources of kernel after compiling?
[09:26] <ardchoille> ExtremePC: no
[09:26] <MASARUwota> gvandeweyer: try installing the  extra packages: xscreensaver-gl-extra & xscreensaver-data-extra
[09:27] <MASARUwota> gvandeweyer: also, are you dutch by any chance? :)
[09:28] <grindey> can someone help me to add Universe and Multiverse repository so i can download software
[09:28] <MASARUwota> grindey: go to synaptic preferences
[09:28] <ziroday> grindey: sure! Go to System > Administration > Software Sources
[09:28] <grindey> yep
[09:28] <grindey> and then
[09:28] <morpheus_> can i delete sources of kernel after compiling?
[09:28] <ziroday> grindey: and tick the universe and multiverse check boxes
[09:29] <MASARUwota> morpheus_: if you have verified that it worked, sure
[09:29] <gvandeweyer> MASARUwota: Vlaams :-)
[09:29] <gvandeweyer> MASARUwota: I have those packages
[09:29] <MASARUwota> gvandeweyer: allee manneke
[09:29] <MASARUwota> :p
[09:29] <ziroday> grindey: sorry they are called "Community-maintained Open Source software" and "Software restricted by copyright or legal issues"
[09:29] <grindey> they are all ticked except source code. i have also selected main server.
[09:29] <ziroday> grindey: okay, then those servers should be enabled
[09:30] <grindey> i wanted to download NVU webpage editor
[09:30] <ziroday> grindey: could you please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:30] <morpheus_> MASARUwota it's work, but nvidia drivers cant be installed. on old kernel all is OK
[09:30] <error_name> hello i have notebook with 15,6" monitor which native reoslution is 1366x768. but when i try to start smth on full screen and its resolution isnt set to 1366x768,my screen is being split into 6 similar to each other screens. can u help
[09:30] <gvandeweyer> MASARUwota: you also then :-) , anyway DNA logo is the only one in the list from xscreensaver-demo that's grayed out
[09:30] <grindey> i am totally new to linux, what is pastebin ?
[09:30] <ziroday> grindey: I don't see any programs by the name of nvu in the repository...
[09:30] <MASARUwota> gvandeweyer: i see, let me google
[09:31] <kinja-sheep> !pastebin | grindey
[09:31] <MASARUwota> !pastebin|grindey
[09:31] <MASARUwota> :X
[09:31] <kinja-sheep> :3
[09:31] <morpheus_> MASARUwota i think nvidia can't be installed, because sources was deleted
[09:31] <ziroday> grindey: ignore what I asked you to pastebin, as far as I can tell NVU is not in the repositories
[09:31] <BUSTACAP> like windows and using 32bit vs 64bit, in linux, do you have to use 64bit to use all 4gb of ram?
[09:31] <raven_> which is able to work with surround-files (ac3, wav 6 chan, ...)?
[09:31] <grindey> me too. I did read on a website that i can type sudo apt-get install nvu, then it said i must have these multiverse and universe things activated
[09:31] <ec2lt> salut
[09:32] <grindey> ok ok...
[09:32] <ziroday> grindey: which website?
[09:32] <grindey> sweet
[09:32] <grindey> let me check again
[09:32] <raven_> which tool is able to work with surround-files (ac3, wav 6 chan, ...)?
[09:32] <MASARUwota> grindey: get kompozer. its an improved version of NVU with bugfixes
[09:32] <error_name> !xorg
[09:32] <grindey> http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-nvu-the-web-authoring-system
[09:32] <grindey> up top it says i must have these things activated
[09:32] <MASARUwota> grindey: get the ''kompozer" package
[09:32] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: Yes.
[09:33] <Ilmatic> Yes what?
[09:33] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: Yes, you're cloaked.
[09:33] <scyx> is there a way to start a script after successfully connecting to a wireless internet connection?
[09:33] <BUSTACAP> do i have to use 64bit ubuntu to use 4gb of ram?
[09:33] <Ilmatic> yayyyyyy
[09:33] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[09:33] <grindey> okay i'll give that a go
[09:33] <ziroday> grindey: those commands are old and dangerous, I wouldn't follow them
[09:33] <Ilmatic> thank you for noticing kinja
[09:33] <ziroday> BUSTACAP: that or the PAE kernel
[09:33] <grindey> i see
[09:34] <BUSTACAP> ziroday: would using 64bit perform better anyway? or would you recommend using PAE kernel?
[09:34] <grindey> i'll try to get this komposer package
[09:34] <ziroday> BUSTACAP: I would recommend the 64bit, it has better performance then the PAE kernel
[09:34] <BUSTACAP> ziroday: thank you
[09:34] <ziroday> BUSTACAP: here are some benchmarks if you are interested http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1
[09:34] <Ilmatic> Hey how often do people get hacked on here?
[09:35] <ziroday> Ilmatic: hacked?
[09:35] <BUSTACAP> ziroday: thanks, very helpful
[09:35] <Ilmatic> Err..did I say it wrong?
[09:35] <ugliefrog__> hopefully never
[09:35] <ziroday> BUSTACAP: have fun
[09:36] <grindey> kompozer looks exactly like Nvu
[09:36] <BUSTACAP> ziroday: always with ubuntu :P
[09:36] <grindey> i'll give it a go
[09:36] <ziroday> grindey: it is :)
[09:36] <grindey> thanks a lot for helping me out
[09:36] <MASARUwota> grindey: its a fork which is being developed (NVU pretty much died)
[09:36] <kinja-sheep> grindey: The link you posted earlier was in 2005 -- Very old. :)
[09:36] <ziroday> grindey: no problem, have fun
[09:36] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: I have been using IRC for years and have never heard any case of it
[09:37] <Ilmatic> Oh.
[09:37] <Ilmatic> You have no idea how relieved I am.
[09:37] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[09:37] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: If you're not running any world-facing servers, you don't have to worry about it too much with Ubuntu
[09:37] <CAiRO__> hi
[09:37] <raven_> which tool is able to work with surround-files (ac3, wav 6 chan, ...)?
[09:38] <CAiRO__> where can i get kernel backports for hardy? i need a kernel >= 2.6.27 for my mainboard sensors to work
[09:38] <nickapalooza> raven_: you mean to play them?
[09:38] <Ilmatic> Some guy I was talking to earlier said he was hacked by someone scoping out IPs.
[09:38] <Ilmatic> Placed a root kit or so in his box.
[09:38] <scyx> is it even possible to start a script after connecting to a wireless internet connection? or do i have to manually write a script for it that detects the connection?
[09:38] <raven_> nickapalooza, no to process it or to mix own surround sounds
[09:38] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: Just remember, computer security is a process, not a product
[09:38] <MASARUwota> scyx: not possible with network-manager, afaik
[09:38] <kraut> moin
[09:39] <nickapalooza> raven_: editing...yeah i wouldn't know
[09:39] <Ilmatic> I'll keep that in mind when I buy Norton.
[09:39] <ziroday> scyx: putting a script in /etc/network/if-up.d/ might do it, not sure
[09:39] <Ilmatic> LOL.
[09:39] <nickapalooza> scyx: i wouldn't know
[09:39] <Ilmatic> jp
[09:39] <Ilmatic> jp
[09:39] <FloodBot3> Ilmatic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:40] <ziroday> ardchoille: you've got it wrong. It's "security is a journey, not a destination"
[09:40] <Ilmatic> Muted?
[09:40] <scyx> ziroday: afaik those are executed when the device powers up, so it probably isn't connected at that point
[09:40] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: Temporarily because you were flooding.
[09:40] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: you submitted too many lines of text too close together
[09:41] <Ilmatic> Damn..I didn't know it was like that on irc.
[09:41] <anand_> hai
[09:41] <ardchoille> ziroday: hmm.. I heard that somewhere :)
[09:41] <MASARUwota> !hi|anand_
[09:41] <Ilmatic> that's crazyy..
[09:41] <ziroday> scyx: I was under the impression the scripts were run as soon as a network connection was established, feel free to try it out
[09:41] <MASARUwota> !off-topic|Ilmatic
[09:43] <militant> hmmm this is odd.  when i copy or paste, my mouse cursor freezes for like a second.  right about a second.
[09:43] <Ilmatic> Hey guys, what do I download to make my desktop really flashy?
[09:44] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: Spend some time at http://www.gnome-look.org
[09:44] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: get a mac. :/
[09:44] <mobal> hi
[09:44] <Ilmatic> I have one.
[09:44] <mobal> need some help about Transmission Web Interface
[09:44] <MASARUwota> D:
[09:44] <Ilmatic> I'm just experimenting with ubuntu
[09:44] <MASARUwota> mobal: yes?
[09:45] <mobal> i can connect but 409: Conflict
[09:45] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: a linux user that cares about it being flashy inst a true one
[09:45] <mobal> and thanks for the Logwatch help. now works fine :)
[09:45] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[09:46] <jani_87> hello
[09:46] <mobal> hi
[09:46] <MASARUwota> !hi|jani_87
[09:46] <Ilmatic> Well I mean, I really don't care for it to be flashy or not. I just wanna try out that little cube thingy I saw on youtube.
[09:46] <jani_87> Im trying to capture something wireless #data, but I cant? I get very low amount of data - weird.
[09:46] <MASARUwota> Ilamtic: turn on desktop effects in gnome
[09:46] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: That would be compiz
[09:46] <jani_87> It has been running for 13 minutes, I have 10 #data
[09:46] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: desktop effects in gnome, that runs compiz
[09:46] <MASARUwota> afaik
[09:46] <ziroday> Ilmatic: to configure compiz (for the cube) install compizconfig-settings-manager package
[09:47] <kinja-sheep> !cube | Ilmatic
[09:47] <Ilmatic> sudo install compizconfig-settings manager package?
[09:47] <brad> anyone familiar with setting up Wolf:ET? I get this error with 2.55: "The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1"
[09:47] <jani_87> Im trying to capture something wireless #data, but I cant? I get very low amount of data - weird.
[09:48] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: "sudo aptitude install packageName"
[09:49] <jani_87> Im trying to capture something wireless #data, but I cant? I get very low amount of data - weird.
[09:49] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: http://tinyurl.com/yzgzd7h -- Learn a little about aptitude
[09:49] <MASARUwota> !apt|Ilmatic
[09:50] <Ilmatic> Oh mann...all these commands look so complicated..
[09:50] <Ilmatic> It's a wonder how anyone can be fluent with linux.
[09:51] <djem> Hi, I'm having some strange problem on my unr installation. The network shows all connected. both Wifi and wired seams to work fine, got the right IP form DHCP and all, but no internett. Any Ideas?
[09:51] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: It gets easier the more you use it
[09:51] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: its better then clicking everything CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK
[09:51] <MASARUwota> :X
[09:51] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[09:51] <star3am> (wave)
[09:51] <Ilmatic> You must admit though, clicking is a much easier method.
[09:51] <Ilmatic> No memorization involved.
[09:52] <Ilmatic> Just using your eyes.
[09:52] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: for beginners, yes. commands and shortcuts are wayyyyy quicker and easier once you get the hang of it.
[09:52] <jani_87> anyone help me ? i can't get any data with wlan
[09:52] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: you can use your eyes to read manuals, right?
[09:52] <jani_87> i got 30 data, it has been running for 19 min
[09:52] <Ilmatic> So with terminal, you can do essentially EVERYTHING?
[09:52] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: I felt that way 8 years ago too, now I'd die without my terminal
[09:53] <gvandeweyer> ardchoille: second that
[09:53] <Slart> Ilmatic: well... image editing is hard...
 for real
[09:53] <MASARUwota> ardchoille: thirthing =)
[09:53] <Slart> Ilmatic: but ordinary admin stuff.. yes
[09:53] <Ilmatic> Oh whattt..
[09:53] <Ilmatic> that's crazy
[09:53] <Ilmatic> I thought terminal was just for commands
[09:53] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: all apps *are* commands
[09:53] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: it is, the commands are the core of linux, graphical tools are just frontends
 try links -g even browse images of websites in terminal :D
[09:54] <MASARUwota> =)
[09:54] <Ilmatic> -g myspace.com?
[09:54] <Ilmatic> like that?
[09:54] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: im chatting in a terminal atm =)
[09:54] <alabd> Hello , what are differences between apt-get upgarde and apt-get dist-upgarde  ?
[09:54] <nmvictor> how do i get the kannel sources in ubuntu, i did sudo apt-get source kannel and i got"Cant get source for package kannel", am i supposed  to add something to source.list/
[09:54] <Ilmatic> whattt..lol
[09:54] <Ilmatic> that's crazy
[09:55] <MASARUwota> alabd: dist-upgrade upgrades to the newest version of linux
[09:55] <MASARUwota> alabd: upgrade just gets the newest packages for the current version
[09:55] <MASARUwota> *ubuntu GNU/Linux
[09:55] <Slart> alabd: dist-upgrade upgrades more stuff.. things that might require you to reboot.. install or remove other packages and so on... at least I think so
[09:55] <Ilmatic> Hey guys, now that I've installed compiz, where do I go to go use it?
[09:56] <maverick_> i installed network manager (latest) using make install, is there any way i can uninstall it, i think it has screwed up my wicd..i get this error on trying to start it Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface.  Check the wicd log for error messages.
 preferences -> appearence
[09:56] <Slart> MASARUwota: newest version of linux? you mean the kernel?
 visual effects
[09:56] <djem> What is Bcast address when running ifconfig? Does that have anything to do with gateway?
[09:56] <DryGrain> lol, this place looks like #vistahelp
[09:56] <Slart> MASARUwota: oh.. nevermind.. didn't see that last line?
[09:56] <MASARUwota> MASARUwota: that aswell, the last one that ubuntu has in its repos
[09:57] <ardchoille> MASARUwota: No talking to yourself here
[09:57]  * ardchoille hids
[09:57] <MASARUwota> Slart: that aswell, the last one that ubuntu has in its repos
[09:57] <MASARUwota> ardchoille: im just stupid sometimes :X
[09:57] <jani_87> i got 30 data, it has been running for 19 min
[09:57] <nmvictor> how do i get the kannel sources in ubuntu, i did sudo apt-get source kannel and i got"Cant get source for package kannel", am i supposed  to add something to source.list/
[09:57] <jani_87> Im trying to capture something wireless #data, but I cant? I get very low amount of data - weird.
[09:57] <Ilmatic> Hey it's already set to extra.
[09:57] <Ilmatic> So err..how do I access the cool looking cube?
[09:57] <faileas> maverick_: make uninstall should. next time get and use checkinstall to make a deb. its easier
[09:57] <MASARUwota> SPINNAN CUBEZZ
[09:58] <ilkkarga> slm
[09:58] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: System --> Preferences --> CompizConfig Setting Manager
[09:58] <ardchoille> !checkinstall | maverick_
[09:58] <maverick_> faileas: i tried checkinstall, but it could not make a deb only for this package
[09:58] <ilkkarga> selam
[09:58] <ilkkarga> hi
[09:58] <MASARUwota> !hi|ilkkarga
[09:58] <ilkkarga> okey
[09:58] <ilkkarga> heyy
[09:58] <ilkkarga> girl
[09:58] <MASARUwota> :/
[09:59] <Darkedge> For some reason I unmounted a CD now nomore CDs get automounted.
[09:59] <ilkkarga> ne
[09:59] <Ilmatic> I don't see a compizsetting manager option
[09:59] <jani_87> u shouldnt
[09:59] <jani_87> reinstall
[09:59] <Slart> !info linux-source | nmvictor
[09:59] <ilkkarga> heyyyyyyyy
[09:59] <MASARUwota> ilkkarga: what do you want?
[09:59] <ilkkarga> howare you
[10:00] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: Did you install compizconfig-settings-manager ?
[10:00] <MASARUwota> ilkkarga: good, do you have a question?
[10:00] <maverick_> removed network manager, still getting Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface.  Check the wicd log for error messages. in Wicd, any ideas?
[10:00] <Ilmatic> in the terminal i put a command that went like this: sudo aptitude install package compiz
[10:00] <ilkkarga> heyyyy man
[10:01] <ilkkarga> howare you
[10:01] <MASARUwota> !off-topic|ilkkarga
[10:01] <Slart> ilkkarga: this isn't a social channel.. this channel is for ubuntu support only.. go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat
[10:01] <ardchoille> Ilmatic:  sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:01] <ilkkarga> I tuka
[10:01] <ilkkarga> turka
[10:01] <maverick_> Ilmatic: sudo apt-get install ccsm
[10:01] <ilkkarga> heyy
[10:01] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: "sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager"
[10:01] <Slart> !tr | ilkkarga
[10:01] <MASARUwota> !tr|ilkkarga
[10:01] <ardchoille> !info ccsm | maverick_
[10:02] <MASARUwota> Slarta: D:
[10:02] <Slart> !ccsm | maverick_
[10:02] <MASARUwota> Slart: D:
[10:02] <Slart> 9
[10:02] <Slart> :)
[10:02] <ilkkarga> :)
[10:02] <maverick_> hehe
[10:02] <ilkkarga> hehehe
[10:02] <Ilmatic> ccsm?
[10:02] <Ilmatic> would that work?
[10:02] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: mo
[10:02] <maverick_> sorry my bad
[10:02] <ardchoille> Ilmatic:  sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:02] <ilkkarga> eheehe
[10:02] <ilkkarga> :)
[10:02] <MASARUwota> !tr|ilkkarga
[10:02] <ilkkarga> slm lan
[10:03] <ilkkarga> ibneler
[10:03] <MASARUwota> !tr|ilkkarga
[10:03] <ilkkarga> kimsinsen lennnnn
[10:03] <MASARUwota> ilkkarga: please dont speak turkish here D:
[10:03] <MASARUwota> ilkkarga: join #ubuntu-tr
[10:03] <ilkkarga> yes
[10:03] <Ilmatic> damn you guys are really fluent with your commands.
[10:03] <Ilmatic> lol
[10:03] <ilkkarga> turist
[10:04] <MASARUwota> ilkkarga: go be a tourist in #ubuntu-tr
[10:04] <djem> why does 'netstat -nr' return nothing? Is that normal?
[10:04] <LewisDre4m> Hello, does anyone here use Cairo Dock? I need some help.
[10:04] <ilkkarga> turkish
[10:04] <ilkkarga> name cem
[10:04] <ilkkarga> girl
[10:04] <gvandeweyer> hmm, if anybody is wondering, the segmentation faults arising in ubuntu 9.10 when using seamlessrdp are solved by manual install of a previous version of rdesktop (1.5)
[10:04] <ilkkarga> wanht
[10:04] <MASARUwota> ilkkarga: dont sociallize or speak turkish.
[10:05] <LewisDre4m> Please help, is there anyone who used Cairo Dock here?
[10:05] <ilkkarga> no rpomlem
[10:05] <ilkkarga> promlem
[10:05] <ardchoille> hiçbir Türk burada konuşuyoruz. -> #ubuntu-tr
[10:05] <maverick_> removed network manager, still getting Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface.   Yemek yemek!
[10:06] <kinja-sheep> ilkkarga: #ubuntu-tr
[10:06] <Slart> djem: what kind of network connection do you use?
[10:06] <ilkkarga> sieee
[10:06] <djem> Slart: I have both wireless and wired atm, but for some reason the internett wont work
[10:07] <MASARUwota> Seeker: thank you
[10:07] <MASARUwota> *Seeker': thank you
[10:07] <LewisDre4m> Slart: Wicked, man I am new to all of this stuff and am very confused. I have the dock on but the windows miminize to the bottom pannel, then when I try click them I click the dock by mistake? What should I be doing differently? If i remove the bottom panel which I think people do where will my minimized windows go? sorry for a stupid question
[10:07] <Seeker`> MASARUwota: ironically, the first one hilighted me, the 2nd didn't
[10:07] <Ilmatic> Hey guys, how do I access the cube?
[10:07] <MASARUwota> Seeker: :o
[10:07] <LewisDre4m> Slart: So If I remove my bottom panel, where will my minimized windows go?
[10:08] <kinja-sheep> !away > JimmyJ|zz
[10:08] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: SPINNAN CUBEZ
[10:08] <Slart> djem: hmm.. I'm not really sure if the routing table is empty if you don't get an ip (either static or via dhcp).. that would be my first guess
[10:08] <Ilmatic> Err...how?
[10:08] <Ilmatic> is there a certain command?
[10:08] <Subby> LewisDre4m: they arn't shown anymore, nothing else :)
[10:08] <Slart> LewisDre4m: you can get the minimized windows from the dock.. or you can move the bottom panel to somewhere else.. say one of the sides or the top
[10:08] <djem> Slart: I've got an IP address from my DHCP that shows up using ifconfig
[10:08] <LewisDre4m> Subby: what do you mena man?
[10:09] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: do you get a cube when pressing SUPER (windows or mac button) + TAB?
[10:09] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: right click the top panel, choose Add to panel, find the Window List applet and add it. When that is done you can delete the bottom panel
[10:09] <LewisDre4m> mean*
[10:09] <LewisDre4m> omg I feel totally naked with out that panel how scary!
[10:09] <Slart> djem: then I don't really understand why it would be empty.. I've never really messed with the routing.. it normally "just works" on every system I've played with
[10:09] <MASARUwota> LewisDre4m: some people like to work without a panel, just at systray app =) (see: dwm)
[10:10] <gvandeweyer> Ilmatic: you have to configure it in compiz-settings-manager, including keybindings under rotate-cube
[10:10] <LewisDre4m> this is wierd
[10:10] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: It will look like this: http://picasaweb.google.com/ardchoille42/Screenshots#5422189670043288322
[10:10] <Subby> LewisDre4m: you have at least one panel, do you?
[10:10] <mindstorm> Ilmatic: I think ctrl+alt+holding button 1 on mouse is the default bind
[10:10] <safwanahmed> Can you people please download and play Tap Race from Android marcket com.mindcob.tapRace.activities and suggest me of improvements
[10:10] <LewisDre4m> Subby: Yes
[10:10] <maverick_> can someone help me with this: http://paste.debian.net/55751
[10:10] <safwanahmed> Please give reviews
[10:10] <djem> Slart: Thanks, this is the first time I've expereinced this too. I guess I'll have to go for SuSE instead then.
[10:10] <Subby> And your minimized windows arnÄt there anymore?
[10:10] <MASARUwota> safwanahmed: please visit #android
[10:11] <safwanahmed> I'll be thankful of you
[10:11] <ardchoille> safruhanix: not in this channel
[10:11] <safwanahmed> ok thanx alot of help
[10:11] <Slart> djem: you're welcome
[10:11] <LewisDre4m> Subby: I deleted my bottom panel so there are no minimized windows there anymore. I see they have now gone to the Cairo dock
[10:11] <Ilmatic> Oh whaatttt
[10:11] <kinja-sheep> LewisDre4m: Right-click on any panel and add applet "Windows List"
[10:11] <Ilmatic> that's frikkin clean
[10:11] <Ilmatic> lol
[10:11] <MASARUwota> :/
[10:11] <Subby> LewisDre4m: just right click and "Add to panel" and choose windowlist (or sth. like that I got it in german)
[10:11] <Ilmatic> dangg
[10:11] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: What's wrong?
[10:11] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs22/f/2008/027/1/1/AwesomeWM_Desktop_27_01_by_Gigamlol.png
[10:11] <Ilmatic> nothing at all
[10:12] <Ilmatic> lol
[10:12] <Ilmatic> i'm amazed by the effects
[10:12] <LewisDre4m> Slart: Here is something thats confusing me, when I launch a program from my dock EG Chrome, Say I wanted to launch another one (rather than use tabs) it seems to just be opening the same one over and over again not a new browser. Only letting me have one open you know?
[10:12] <Slart> LewisDre4m: right click on the shortcut in the dock.. select "Launch New"
[10:13] <LewisDre4m> I get you!
[10:13] <LewisDre4m> Slart: nice one
[10:13] <maverick_> can someone help me with this: http://paste.debian.net/55751
[10:13] <LewisDre4m> hmmz let me have a fiddle see if anything else confuses me :). Thank you for your help all of you so muhc.
[10:14] <ubuntunewbie> can I use .ttf fonts from window and apply on ubuntu ?
[10:14] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: yes.. you can put them in ~/.fonts
[10:14] <ardchoille> maverick_: Which version are you running?
[10:15] <MenZa> ubuntunewbie: Yes, copy them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ or ~/.fonts, then run sudo fc-cache -r
[10:15] <maverick_> ardchoille: 1.6.1
[10:15] <ubuntunewbie> Slart: thanks would it appear on open office to print ?
[10:15] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: yes
[10:15] <ardchoille> maverick_: I meant the distro
[10:15] <Ilmatic> Hey ardchoille, what are the shortcuts to bring up the cube?
[10:15] <maverick_> ardchoille: karmic
[10:15] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: No idea, I don't use compiz
[10:15] <ubuntunewbie> Slart , MenZa: thanks again :-)
[10:15] <Ilmatic> Oh.
[10:15] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: you'll have to restart openoffice though.. and perhaps use that command MenZa suggested
[10:16] <MenZa> Indeed.
[10:16] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: you're welcome
[10:16] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: try grabbing an open area of the desktop with the mouse and dragging it, that used to invoke the cube
[10:16] <LewisDre4m> Slart: Do you not find that (for example) when you go to click in the type box for this chat for example the icons in the dock jump up and get in the way?
[10:17] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: You'll probably get better advice in #compiz
[10:17] <Ilmatic> Oh whatttt
[10:17] <Ilmatic> they actually have a channel for that?
[10:17] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[10:17] <ardchoille> yep
[10:17] <Ilmatic> you learn something new everyday
[10:17] <Ilmatic> okay
[10:17] <theball> use left ctrl alt down arrow and left right arrow
[10:17] <Ilmatic> thanks for all your kind advice ardchoille
[10:17] <ardchoille> yw
[10:17] <Slart> LewisDre4m: I don't have my Irssi window that far down.. but sometimes when I have to click something near the dock it will pop up and "steal the click".. yes..
[10:18] <LewisDre4m> Slart: steal the click rofl
[10:18] <LewisDre4m> I have just turned the zoom level down a tad etc.
[10:18] <maverick_> ok, can anyone suggest any network conf tools except wicd and NM?
[10:18] <maverick_> for wired connections
[10:19] <faileas> maverick_: do it the old fashioned way
[10:19] <maverick_> faileas: interfaces?
[10:19] <faileas> maverick_: yes
[10:19] <Juggalo> hello room i installed UNR 9.10 at netbook and something is wrong with the desktop... there's no way to put an icon or right-click it (btw i put the classic gnome desktop look)
[10:20] <maverick_> faileas: lol thats what i did, but i still need a gui network manager :P..
[10:20] <faileas> maverick_: why?
[10:20] <faileas> if its a wired connection, just let it do it automatically
[10:20] <faileas> for wireless, just use a script
[10:21] <maverick_> faileas: hmm good point..hehe
[10:22] <nmvictor> hi guys, i need help. I wish to recompile the package kannel so i want to get  the source with apt-get source, i have tried this and its not working, someone please tell me, do i need to add something in source.list, i know their is an answer to this.Please help
[10:22] <snowrichard> nmvictor its not spelled kannel its kernel
[10:23] <faileas> nmvictor: get download the source from their website. use apt-get to work out the deps, then built it using that source
[10:23] <snowrichard> but its unlikely you need to compile it yourself
[10:23] <nmvictor> snowrichard: sorry, i mean kannel.http:www.kannel.org
[10:23] <nmvictor> snowrichard: sorry, i mean kannel.http://www.kannel.org
[10:23] <FloodBot3> nmvictor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:23] <faileas> nmvictor: you don't use apt for compiling from source, in general
[10:24] <nmvictor> faileas: ok, i have the source from their website, would you please point me to a perfet HOWTO on how i could build the deps?
[10:24] <snowrichard> oh sorry i never heard of that app
[10:26] <nmvictor> faileas: so you mean the ./configure make and make install stuff, how do i come up with a .deb with that procedure?
[10:26] <maverick_> nmvictor: use checkinstall and make a deb
[10:26] <maverick_> nmvictor: sudo apt-get checkinstall and then instead of sudo make install, type sudo checkinstall
[10:27] <militant> Is it common for mouse pointer to freeze for a second or so when copying, and again when pasting?  even with very small blocks of text?  i wouldn't think so..
[10:27] <NET||abuse> Hey folks, trying to get a server started up in kvm here.. having trouble.
[10:28] <NET||abuse> i'm a bit new to using virsh, so i'm not 100% on the knowledge front,,
[10:28] <faileas> nmvictor: there's a proper way, and there's checkinstall - replace make install with checkinstall, and install the produced deb with dpkg
[10:28] <nmvictor> maverick_: thanks,thats a perfect help, someone else would have left me figure out where to run the checkinstall
[10:28] <NET||abuse> i run virsh, then i list, i see the 5 vm's on that box, 1 is booted automatically it seems.  there are 2 others i need to get up and runningn ow.
[10:28] <maverick_> nmvictor: no problems :D
[10:28] <NET||abuse> i try start [vmname] and i get bind(): failed.
[10:28] <nmvictor> faileas: thanks, got that from maverick_
[10:30] <faileas> nmvictor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/HandsOn this is the 'proper' way
[10:30] <koichirose> Hello!
[10:31] <nmvictor> faileas: yea, thats proper
[10:31] <Wazzzaaa> Anybody knows /ml
[10:31] <koichirose> super quick question: which filesystem should I use for a storage hard drive? It would be used only on unix systems (would be great if I could use it with other OSes, not essential though)
[10:31] <faileas> its useful to point that out. lots of people hate checkinstall ;p
[10:32] <nowthatsamatt> ext3
[10:32] <nmvictor> faileas: why?
[10:32] <faileas> koichirose: ext3 is a safe bet. you can use it with other OSes with additional software
[10:32] <koichirose> nowthatsamatt, why ext3? and why not ext4?
[10:32] <faileas> nmvictor: its not the 'right' way to do it. personally i use checkinstall for personal stuff ;p
[10:33] <nowthatsamatt> because i've never heard of ext4 and i'm using an ext3 filesystem right now to share over samba to windows/osx/linux boxes
[10:33] <nowthatsamatt> and it works fine
[10:33] <faileas> koichirose: firstly, not all the non-linux drivers for ext support ext4. also, there are a few bugs with ext4.
[10:33] <nowthatsamatt> if i knew anything more about it, that'd be kinda nerdy, wouldn't it?
[10:33] <faileas> nowthatsamatt: samba totally ignores your filesystem actually
[10:33] <nowthatsamatt> oshi
[10:33] <nmvictor> so the ubuntu deelopers dont use checkinstall too/
[10:34] <faileas> nmvictor: never. they probably have a proper build environment setup
[10:34] <koichirose> faileas, so I made the wrong decision choosing ext4 for my ubuntu 9.10 installation?
[10:34] <faileas> koichirose: not really
[10:34] <faileas> koichirose: but if think you may need to access it from windows or os x, ext3 is more likely to work
[10:35] <kinja-sheep> koichirose: External hard drive?
[10:35] <koichirose> faileas, thank you, I will use ext3
[10:35] <koichirose> but I'd like to discuss ext4 bugs...
[10:35] <faileas> hmm
[10:35] <koichirose> kinja-sheep, yes, it is a sata hard drive in a usb box
[10:36] <nmvictor> ok, since recompiling kannel seems like a bad direction, maybe the problem im facing can easily be solved here, anyone here using kannel  with no problems?
[10:36] <faileas> http://ostatic.com/blog/recent-bug-report-details-data-loss-in-ext4-tso-explains-cause-and-workarounds they should be fixed by now, but this came to mind
[10:36] <kinja-sheep> koichirose: And as for storage (and access by other OSes), you're creating separate partition for that one?
[10:36] <faileas> nmvictor: it isn't a bad direction - but it depends on what the bug is
[10:37] <koichirose> faileas, thanks
[10:37] <nmvictor> i could point you to the link describing the bug, do you mind?
[10:37] <koichirose> kinja-sheep, no. I was thinking a single partition. It'll happen maybe once a year that it will have to be used on non unix oses
[10:38] <faileas> if its a genuine link, and it'll help, sure. question i'd also ask is, do you think the bug will be fixed in a newer version than the repo one?
[10:39] <nmvictor> faileas: the kannel version from repo is same as the version from their website
[10:39] <nmvictor> faileas: i might be wrong since the link actually talks of ubuntu 8.04
[10:40] <derik> is good to have swap activate on a vps
[10:40] <nmvictor> http://kerneltrap.org/17017
[10:40] <nmvictor> faileas: http://kerneltrap.org/17017
[10:40] <nmvictor> faileas: sorry http://kerneltrap.org/node/17017
[10:42] <koichirose> another question: I need to clone a ntfs hard-drive to this newly bought ext3 hard drive
[10:42] <zaggynl> that's not a question
[10:42] <koichirose> it seems that gparted can't clone ntfs drives
[10:42] <maverick__> koichirose: master slave and copy?
[10:42] <koichirose> ?
[10:43] <maverick__> kochirose: connect both the hard disks and just copy?
[10:43] <sick_fox> hi I need small help - does anybody have experience with booting Ubuntu from usb key on eee 1005?
[10:43] <koichirose> maverick_: copy and paste via nautilus? I was hoping to something more professional
[10:43] <koichirose> maverick_: copy and paste via nautilus? I was hoping for something more professional
[10:43] <kinja-sheep> sick_fox: What's the real issue?
[10:43] <maverick__> koichirose: then i can help you no further hehe
[10:43] <_ruben> you cant clone from ntfs to ext3 .. copy the data, sure .. but not clone
[10:44] <nibbler> hi. when will 9.04 support end?
[10:44] <maverick__> nibbler: 2011 i think
[10:44] <kinja-sheep> koichirose: Define professional.  As long as it get the job done, then yes, that's one way to go. There are no "professional tools" -- Just various. You might want rsync, I suppose.
[10:45] <nibbler> maverick_: so same as 8.04 lts? great ,-) thanks
[10:45] <sick_fox> kinja-sheep: I tried various utilities that created bootable usb key with ubuntu, but it is not possible to boot from that key (even with right settings in bios)
[10:45] <koichirose> _ruben, you are right, I did not use the correct term. I need something to copy everything thoroughly from ntfs to ext3, i was thinking rsync but was wondering if there was something else
[10:45] <Wazzzaaa> Anybody knows how I can format HTML in gedit? (like indenting)
[10:45] <kinja-sheep> nibbler: April 2011
[10:45] <Wazzzaaa> automagically
[10:45] <maverick__> nibbler: 9.04 is not LTS..LTS support is for 5 years
[10:46] <nmvictor_> faileas: sorry, i lost my connection momentarily, did you get the link?
[10:46] <kinja-sheep> sick_fox: You want to install on the netbook?
[10:46] <MASARUwota> koichirose: just once? just copy paste it
[10:47] <sick_fox> kinja-sheep, I only want to boot from usb key on netbook (but it is very strange - it doesnt work)
[10:47] <kinja-sheep> koichirose: rsync -avz --progress --human-readable :)
[10:47] <koichirose> MASARUwota, I don't feel that safe copying and pasting 750gb of data and I wanted to avoid doing each folder one by one
[10:48] <kinja-sheep> sick_fox: I see. Have you tried unetbootin or Ubuntu Startup Disc Creator (under System --> Prefs/Admin)?
[10:48] <faileas> nmvictor_: hmm. its a waaay old version of ubuntu
[10:48] <LewisDre4m> Slart: Hey man, I am trying to work out how to add Gnome panel applets to the cairo dock? The Search one wasn't hard as I could find it in applications --> accesories --> and then drag the icon to the doc. But what about the others? I know the dock has it's own but I had some favourites from the gnome ones?
[10:48] <sick_fox> kinja-sheep, exactly I tried everything you mentioned
[10:49] <faileas> sick_fox: is the usb key in the boot order before say, the hard drive and cd drive?
[10:49] <Slart> koichirose: try rsync.. that's what I used when I moved data between two hard drives recently... you can abort it and resume if you want.. it does all kinds of checking and so on
[10:49] <sick_fox> faileas, yes it is
[10:49] <koichirose> Slart, yes, I was just refreshing my memory by reading the man
[10:49] <sick_fox> faileas, key, cddrive, hdd
[10:50] <nmvictor_> faileas: so you think the bug is fixed, i have just purged the repo kannel and now i want to intsll the development on,
[10:50] <nmvictor_> faileas: *one
[10:50] <Slart> LewisDre4m: I have no idea.. I've never even tried using gnome applets in the cairo dock
[10:50] <CAiRO__> where can i get kernel backports for hardy? i need a kernel >= 2.6.27 for my mainboard sensors to work
[10:51] <LewisDre4m> Slart: Ok, but I have managed to do some as they are in the applications menu and I just drag the icon. . . maybe If I knew where the panel apps are stored I could drag them from there?
[10:51] <kinja-sheep> !backport | CAiRO__ (it is in the repo already)
[10:51] <faileas> nmvictor_: its an old bug. it ought to be
[10:52] <Slart> LewisDre4m: I have no idea.. I'm not even sure they are executable in the same way as regular apps.. they might just be some kind of scripts
[10:52] <MASARUwota> koichirose: rsync is an open source utility that provides fast incremental file transfer
[10:52] <MASARUwota> seems pretty good for your purpose
[10:52] <LewisDre4m> oh, ok man thanks anywya
[10:52] <costinel> heloo
[10:52] <kinja-sheep> CAiRO__: Search for "linux-backports-modules-hardy"
[10:52] <koichirose> MASARUwota, yes. I will use that with -ah
[10:53] <CAiRO__> kinja-sheep: well, i then find http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-backports-modules-hardy which only has 2.6.24
[10:53] <LewisDre4m> Slart: As an example man, I have no recycle bin now . . . how can I add that to the dock?
[10:53] <CAiRO__> which is not newer than the normal 8.04 kernel
[10:53] <Slart> LewisDre4m: there is a recycle bin applet for the cairo dock.. check the preferences
[10:53] <LewisDre4m> k
[10:53] <faileas> hmm
[10:54] <CAiRO__> kinja-sheep: how's <IP_ADDRESS>.28 a backport?
[10:54] <koichirose> I was wondering if there's a way to make rsync recognize a simple filename change during a backup. Otherwise it will treat it as a new file and transfer it again
[10:54] <faileas> nmvictor_: hmm.. wait. from what they are saying, it sounds like a hardware problem
[10:54] <nmvictor_> faileas: ok, thats what it sounds, the disk fragmentation part
[10:54] <kinja-sheep> CAiRO__: Backports is for patches being made (after the release date) on the hardwares. (To ensure that you're getting better supports on certain hardwares such as Wifi).
[10:55] <kinja-sheep> CAiRO__: Compiling a kernel is one way to go.
[10:55] <CAiRO__> kinja-sheep: no, backports are packages from newer ubuntu versions backported to an older one
[10:55] <faileas> CAiRO__: if nothing else works, you might want to take a look at kernelcheck- though the release version is buggy- so you might need to patch it for it to work
[10:56] <faileas> its an app that makes compiling a new kernel very easy
[10:56] <nmvictor_> faileas: but whoever authored the artical found otherwise, that its an arrayIndexOutOfBounds thing, that is if java was the language behind kannel
[10:56] <NickRiviera> morning (gmt -3)!
[10:57] <dnivra> anyone having issues accessing in.archive.ubuntu.com; got an error "Network unreachable" when running "sudo apt-get update"? I'm able to access sites. is the server down or something?
[10:57] <ltsampros> hello.
[10:57] <ltsampros> is there any way to follow ubuntu's development ?
[10:58] <MASARUwota> Itsampros: launchpad, afaik
[10:58] <ltsampros> e.g. on debian one can follow testing or unstable ?
[10:58] <NickRiviera> hey... I woke up today to find out my windows had no 'top bar'... so I did 'sudo metacity --replace &' and now my transparent background beelds to the desktop rather than showing the windows bellow...
[10:58] <NickRiviera> any clues?
[10:58] <Slart> dnivra: it works for me when I type it into a browser
[10:58] <dnivra> I did download the lists from "security.ubuntu.com" successfully. just not possible to access in.archive.ubuntu.com.
[10:58] <dnivra> Slart, yeah works like that for me too. terminal and update manager however cannot access it
[10:58] <Slart> ltsampros: there are prerelease versions of the next version coming along.. but we don't have rolling releases like they do in debian
[10:59] <Slart> dnivra: not sure what could be wrong then.. sorry
[10:59] <dnivra> Actually it says this "59% [Connecting to in.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)] [Connecting to archive.canonical.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]"
[10:59] <Slart> ltsampros: you can go to #ubuntu+1 and ask for more info there.. that's the official channel for the next version
[10:59] <ltsampros> Slart: thanks!
[11:00] <dnivra> Slart, cool. thanks.
[11:01] <nibbler> will support for ati cards that were supported before, but not in 9.10 anymore, ever come back, or is this dropped?
[11:02] <LewisDre4m> Slart: I promise this is the last question lol. I was just on my merry way navigating through my computer . . Minimised the home folder I was looking in and POOF! gone. tried it again and POOF! gone. Seems as though minimising windows do not go to the dock?
[11:02] <andrey_> ghbdtn
[11:02] <andrey_> приет
[11:02] <bevans> .
[11:02] <Slart> LewisDre4m: if you put a shortcut to nautilus on the cairo dock they should end up there
[11:02] <Slart> !ru | andrey_
[11:03] <LewisDre4m> Slart: What is natilus?
[11:03] <Slart> LewisDre4m: nautilus is the file browser.. like explorer.exe in windows
[11:03] <LewisDre4m> how do I add that?
[11:03] <Slart> LewisDre4m: the think that opens if you double click on a folder on the desktop, for example..
[11:04] <LewisDre4m> Slart: How do I add that? Is there an option in configuration?
[11:04] <MASARUwota> LewisDre4m: its setup by default
[11:04] <LewisDre4m> Well clearly it isn't lol
[11:04] <Slart> LewisDre4m: I think I just dragged a window to the dock.. I guess you can create the launcher yourself if you want to
[11:05] <MASARUwota> LewisDre4m: create a launcher with the "nautilus"command in it
[11:05] <LewisDre4m> All I wanna do is be able to have my minimised windows to the dock. Stupid if im browsing my music for example and I minimise it it disapears
[11:05] <LewisDre4m> MASARUwota: is there an option in configuration I can tick?
[11:05] <MASARUwota> LewisDre4m: idk
[11:06] <Slart> LewisDre4m: don't other apps go to the dock when you minimize them?
[11:06] <LewisDre4m> yes but a browsing window is not an app man
[11:06] <LewisDre4m> thats the problem
[11:07] <LewisDre4m> :( im gonna hvae to stop using this program If i cant find a way. So your saying if you were in "my music" and you minimised it you would get it in your dock
[11:08] <Slart> LewisDre4m: yes
[11:08] <DeaCon> get it on the dock , right click , make it a launcher?
[11:08] <nmvictor_> faileas: do you program in C?
[11:08] <LewisDre4m> deacon I am a newbie and don't get what yoru saying lol
[11:09] <Slart> LewisDre4m: look.. just right click on the dock and select "Add a custom launcher"
[11:09] <LewisDre4m> ye I dont know what to type as the commmand
[11:09] <DeaCon> if you right click the icons on the dock you can make them launchers
[11:09] <Slart> LewisDre4m: launcher name, I use File Manager.. you can use anything you like
[11:10] <Slart> LewisDre4m: "command to run on click" is on my system "nautilus --browser computer:///"
[11:10] <dr0id> the video at http://codeigniter.com/tutorials/watch/intro/ can't be played, can anyone tell me how do I play it?
[11:10] <Slart> LewisDre4m: image's name or path is system-file-manager
[11:10] <candeira> I just bought a replacement laptop, and I would like to just put the old one's drive into it instead of installing again
[11:11] <Slart> LewisDre4m: that should do it
[11:11] <candeira> how can I then make ubuntu recognise the hardware?
[11:11] <MASARUwota> dr0id: its quicktime :/
[11:12] <Slart> candeira: as long as you're using the same architecture you should be fine.. ie 32bit x86, 64bit x86 and so on
[11:12] <LewisDre4m> Slart: Perfect man thank you
[11:12] <candeira> Slart, but I mean the network card etc
[11:12] <dr0id> MASARUwota: do I need to download anything for that?
[11:12] <LewisDre4m> christ knows why that wasn't included in mine. I must have buggered something
[11:12] <Slart> candeira: that should work without any big problems
[11:12] <LewisDre4m> there must be a GUI option for that somewhere but Icouldn't find it
[11:13] <LewisDre4m> Thank you so much for your help Slart really appreciate it
[11:13] <LewisDre4m> Thank you to everyon else who helped too.
[11:13] <candeira> Slart> thanks
[11:13] <Slart> dr0id: it kind of works on my system.. playing in embedded totem player.. not sure what I've installed
[11:13] <candeira> see you all in 15 minutes
[11:13] <Slart> LewisDre4m: you're welcome
[11:13] <Ilmatic> why don't more people use ubuntu????
[11:14] <Ilmatic> i'm having the funnest time with these compiz effects
[11:14] <Ilmatic> lol
[11:14] <raven_> which tool is able to edit surround-files (ac3, wav 6 chan, ...)?
[11:14] <MASARUwota> dr0id you can give qt4linux or openquicktime a try
[11:14] <dr0id> Slart: when I open the page my browser finds for MPEG-4 AAC decoder
[11:14] <MASARUwota> dr0id tho i dont think thatll work :X
[11:14] <Slart> raven_: audacity might work
[11:15] <raven_> Slart, possibly it can open theese files but it cannot create more than stereo - you know more?
[11:15] <dr0id> what all do I need to install from synaptic to play the video>
[11:15] <dr0id> videos*
[11:15] <dr0id> ?
[11:16] <Slart> dr0id: yes.. I can open it in vlc as well.. it's a .mov file with mp4a audio and avc1 video (or at least that's the codec it's using to play it)
[11:17] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: because we prefer usefull stuff to bloatware. Which other companies (apple, windows) see in a totaly different light.
[11:17] <MASARUwota> The unix philosophy is: Write a program that does one thing, and that does it well.
[11:17] <Ilmatic> But it's sooo pretty though..lol.
[11:17] <meway> What is the command to start wine in a terminal I am running ubuntu 9.10 karmic
[11:18] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: you shouldnt judge a book by its cover, which is what mac users do
[11:18] <dr0id> I have installed everything which I get on searching for quicktime in synaptic package manager. but still the video isn't playing.
[11:18] <Slart> meway: wine in a terminal? you mean the text only wine thing?
[11:19] <dr0id> which player do I search for now?
[11:19] <MASARUwota> dr0id: its quicktime, apple never made a linux quicktime player
[11:19] <Slart> meway: try wineconsole
[11:19] <meway> no i mean sudo wine start      something
[11:19] <Ilmatic> Mac is a great OS
[11:19] <dr0id> MASARUwota: so what do I do now?
[11:19] <Slart> meway: ouch.. never run wine as root.. never.. ever
[11:19] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: i beg to differ, but lets not get into that
[11:19] <Ilmatic> Lol. K.
[11:19] <meway> slart ok
[11:19] <BlouBlou> Slart: It will run graphically, but all commands... will appear in a terminal
[11:19] <MASARUwota> dr0id: download the vid and play it locally
[11:19] <Slart> meway: just run "wine someprogram"
[11:19] <meway> Slart: well I think it may be haveing issue's
[11:20] <MASARUwota> dr0id: if youre running firefox you can find the properties of the vid, and you should just wget that
[11:20] <meway> Slart: it is not running programms it useually dose
[11:20] <meway> Slart: I can not get itunes to work.
[11:20] <Slart> meway: I'm not really sure what you're trying to do.. you might want to ask in #winehq instead.. that's the offical wine support channel
[11:20] <dr0id> MASARUwota: ?
[11:20] <meway> oh they have a room?
[11:20] <dr0id> wget?
[11:22] <Ilmatic> Hey is there a ubuntu general chat channel?
[11:22] <BlouBlou> Ilmatic: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:23] <Ilmatic> thanks mucho bloublou
[11:23] <Ilmatic> : )
[11:23] <BlouBlou> no problem
[11:23] <MASARUwota> dr0id: the wget command in your terminal its an application to download stuff
[11:23] <dr0id> isn't it aptget?
[11:23] <dr0id> apt get?
[11:24] <MASARUwota> dr0id: no, thats for installing software using aptitude
[11:24] <MASARUwota> dr0id: wget is for regular downloads
[11:24] <MASARUwota> :/
[11:24] <dr0id> so what should I do in the terminal?
[11:24] <dr0id> which command?
[11:24] <candeira> to do what?
[11:24] <MASARUwota> dr0id: cd <directory you want to download it to>
[11:24] <dr0id> play the codeigniter video tutorial
[11:25] <yetifoot> hi all, what's a paint program, say on the scale of kolourpaint but for gnome?  i tried gnu paint, but that has no undo etc, and gimp is too much to learn for this 4 minute job i need to do
[11:25] <MASARUwota> dr0id: then:    wget <location of the file to download>
[11:25] <Slart> yetifoot: why not go with kolourpaint then.. you can use KDE apps in gnome if you want
[11:25] <MASARUwota> yetifoot: there isnt such a tool, but i know that fspot has such a thing
[11:25] <yetifoot> Slart, i don't want all of KDE4, i hate kde4
[11:25] <meway> well you just directed me to a room with over 100 afk people slart
[11:25] <nicky> hi, running karmic, I'm having trouble with apache2, when i tried to restart it (after executing  a2enmod rewrite) an error appeared:  (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address.  any thoughts?
[11:25] <yetifoot> or any of it
[11:26] <Slart> yetifoot: it will install the KDE libraries that you need automatically
[11:26] <yetifoot> i don't want them
[11:26] <Slart> yetifoot: ok.. nevermind then
[11:26] <MASARUwota> lol yetifoot
[11:26] <meway> lol
[11:26] <raven_> Slart, do you know something about audacity and surround?
[11:26] <yetifoot> i've ditched kde for a reason
[11:26] <yetifoot> it'a appalling now
[11:26] <Slart> raven_: not really.. no
[11:26] <meway> raven how much is audacity?
[11:27] <yetifoot> jeebus, all a man wants to do is shoop the popes head onto an ugly fat woman
[11:27] <MASARUwota> yetifoot :/
[11:27] <Slart> yetifoot: go learn gimp already... =)
[11:28] <yetifoot> it took me about 2 hours last time just to crop one row of pixels in gimp, the kind of thing that takes me 1 minute to learn in any other program
[11:28] <MASARUwota> yetifoot: youre doing something wrong then
[11:29] <Slart> yetifoot: then use something else.. something you're used to.. virtualbox lets you run windows stuff if you think that's easier
[11:30] <simonsoft> Hi all
[11:30] <MASARUwota> !hi|simonsoft
[11:30] <faileas> yetifoot: when did you last use KDE?
[11:31] <MASARUwota> yetifoot: http://www.gnu.org/software/gpaint/gpaint_screenshot.png
[11:32] <yetifoot> MASARUwota, that kind of looks like the thing i just installed, it didn't even have undo...
[11:32] <yetifoot> faileas, a few weeks ago
[11:32] <MASARUwota> lol
[11:33] <faileas> yetifoot: hmm, how about a online application? say http://aviary.com/tools/phoenix
[11:34] <tiger__> how i can  connect the internet with tp-link wr541+
[11:34] <tiger__> i mean with wireless
[11:34] <yetifoot> faileas, i'm trying it out now, thank you, i see it has undo already
[11:34] <faileas> lol
[11:34] <tiger__> I  don't know how to configure it
[11:34] <faileas> most important thing one needs
[11:36] <faileas> tiger__: that seems to be a router - so plug in a system to ethernet, work out its ip address, configure it there, then connect as per normal
[11:36] <meway> dose anyone know of an alternate synthesia game that works with ubuntu?
[11:36] <ARishi> Is there a way to just update a specific PPA, running sudo apt-get update everytime I had a PPA for a small application takes 10 minutes to finish on my slow connection (eventhough I have only the default PPAs till now)
[11:37] <BryanCT> I plan to start doing iPhone development on Linux and I've decided to go with Ubuntu.  I have 2 harddrives. 1 is 40 gigs holding my Windows installation and then I have a second harddrive . I already have files on it so I want to create just a tiny partition maybe 30gb tops. I burned 9.10 to disc and I get to the Ubuntu menu but soon as I press enter, my screen goes black and then if I hit a button keyboard I see some stuff about unmount
[11:37] <BryanCT> able
[11:37] <mkultra_> hi boys
[11:37] <BryanCT> And yes I would need to dual boot. I don't need Ubuntu for anything else. I may dab with it from time to time but my main focus is iPhone development
[11:38] <mobius2> Greetings Ubuntu Channel
[11:38] <mkultra_> i would virtual machine it @ that point
[11:38] <mkultra_> whats up
[11:38] <mobius2> I have a most odd  but seemingly simple problem
[11:38] <yetifoot> ok, thanks for suggestions, i'm gonna give up and install a windows one
[11:38] <mobius2> apparently there is a webserver daemon already running on  my system but I dont remember installing or starting one
[11:38] <andrzej> hahaha
[11:39] <andrzej> hahaha
 maybe it was a dependency of some other app
[11:39] <draco_> http://dracojesi.com/Forum/showthread.php?tid=67 <-- Linus to Receive Nobel Peace Prize?
 netstat -l will show youo what ports are listening :\
[11:39] <BryanCT> mkultra: Why? 1) iPhone SDK is supported only by osx x but people have managed to get it working under Linux and Windows. I don't want to use any of the MSYS or Cygwin. So I decided to opt for Linux.
 lsof | grep apa or similar will show you what files are open, from there you can go check it out :D
[11:39] <mobius2> I was installing a development server called xampp and when it attempted to start up thats when the "webserver daemon already running" error appeared... and no  there is some kind of server running in deed on port 80 of my machine
[11:39] <mobius2> :/
[11:40] <mobius2> it's serving a simple  "it works"  html file
[11:40] <om26er> !test
[11:40] <BryanCT> Anyway besides what I want to do with Ubuntu. Anybody have an idea to my installation woes?
[11:40] <mobius2> I'd love to kill that process but TOP shows nothing
[11:41] <tia> quit........
[11:41] <mkultra_> ps aux | grep firefox
[11:41] <lpsmith> why is ulimit broken under karmic koala?
[11:41] <mkultra_> kill -n 9 pid
[11:41] <tia> i dont understan about you aren talk
[11:41] <lpsmith> I'm a developer trying to debug a broken process,  and it's not killing the process when it allocates too much memory
[11:42] <tia> hy............
[11:42] <lpsmith> in fact,  I can set ulimit -d 0;  ulimit -m 0  and still start processes
[11:42] <faileas> mobius2: given a choice, you really don't want to be using xampp
[11:42] <faileas> its not secure
[11:43] <mobius2> I think it's a built in server called apache2
[11:44] <mobius2> but  why would it be serving actively ?
[11:44] <mobius2> and  how to kill it?
[11:44] <mobius2> faileas  thanks  but I have no intention of  diong anything other than developing with the lampp  project
[11:44] <mobius2> what an odd thing though
[11:45] <Ilmatic> Hey guys, can wireshark be installed on ubuntu?
[11:45] <jmeng> yeah, the package is called wireshark, too
[11:45]  * mkultra_ punches Ilmatic in the face
[11:45] <jmeng> apt-cache search wireshark
[11:45] <mkultra_> yes
[11:46] <Ilmatic> what was the punch for?
[11:46] <mkultra_> what cant be installed on ubuntu
[11:46] <Ilmatic> virus
[11:46] <mkultra_> i have compiz installed on linux from scratch
[11:46] <Ilmatic> : )
[11:46] <mkultra_> you would have to write a chitty little virus and install it yourself to do that
[11:47] <faileas> mobius2: in which case, how about trying to change the ports xampp's apache listens to?
[11:48] <mkultra_> prolly in the apache configs?
[11:48] <jmeng> I'm having a problem with gnome shortcuts, namely when I try to invoke, say, xterm or gnome-terminal using a hotkey, the terminals don't start in ~, but in /. Using the menus will make them end up in ~, however. Any idea what the problem is here?
[11:48] <faileas> xampp has its own set of confids iirc
[11:49] <Slart> jmeng: I think you need to add a switch to change the starting directory
[11:49] <mkultra_> ekkk gnomes fugly
[11:49] <bazhang> !ot | mkultra_
[11:49] <mkultra_> except for glunarclock
[11:50] <mkultra_> !ot | bazhang
[11:50] <mobius2> yay
[11:50] <mobius2> I figured it out
[11:50] <mobius2> apachectl -k stop
[11:50] <mobius2> thats the command which killed the apache server
[11:50] <mobius2> except mine was apache2
[11:51] <jmeng> Slart, huh, the weird thing is that the command in the menu editor is plain gnome-terminal, too
[11:51] <dr0id> I can't see the codeigniter videos
[11:51] <dr0id> I need help please
[11:51] <jmeng> I mean it looks like shortcuts somehow don't source some environment stuff
[11:51] <jmeng> which is utter and complete garbage :/
[11:52] <Slart> jmeng: not really sure what difference there is between running a shortcut from say the Desktop and running it from the menu
[11:52] <jmeng> hm, ok, well I'll try my friend google. He's cool.
[11:52] <jmeng> Thanks, though :)
[11:53] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: Since you installed Ubuntu for first time recently, have you done everything for looks to your likings?
[11:53] <nelson8874> hello everybody
[11:54] <nelson8874> i'm very noob, so i have a very noob question
[11:54] <mobius2> star3am you are the bomb
[11:54] <kinja-sheep> Hello nelson8874 -- Ask away.
[11:54] <mobius2> thanks a million
[11:54] <nelson8874> i've downloaded a program and it is a tar.gz file. what do i do with this?
[11:55] <fogobogo> nelson8874: decompress
[11:55] <nelson8874> doe
[11:55] <kinja-sheep> nelson8874: What program is it?
[11:55] <nelson8874> done
[11:55] <faileas> nelson8874: read the readme file
[11:55] <nelson8874> it'a a wbfs manager
[11:55] <fogobogo> nelson8874: next step is probably compile
[11:56] <Slart> !compile | nelson8874
[11:56] <firekool> with ubuntu 9.10 you can still install on the bootsector and not the mbr correct?
[11:56] <catlady> yep
[11:56] <firekool> Can you do that with the regular live cd and not the alternate cd
 nice one bro. you did it all :)
[11:57] <faileas> nelson8874: hmm. if you don't mind, link where you got it from - all references i can find are for a windows app
[11:57] <mkultra_> why did xubuntu go to install only
[11:57] <nelson8874> faileas: ok
[11:57] <kinja-sheep> nelson8874: Same as https://launchpad.net/wiithon ?
[11:57] <mkultra_> i must have xubuntu in live cd form
[11:58] <Ilmatic> hey I can't find wireshark for ubuntu
[11:58] <Ilmatic> any ideas?
[11:58] <faileas> mkultra_: try asking the xubuntu channel
[11:58] <jmeng> the package is called wireshark
[11:58] <faileas> didn't wirechark change their name?
[11:58] <nelson8874> faileas: http://code.google.com/p/linux-wbfs-manager/downloads/list?q=label:Featured
[11:58] <Younder> xubuntu? considered a tiled window manager?
[11:58] <mkultra_> ffs theres an xubuntu channel
[11:58] <Slart> !info wireshark | Ilmatic
[11:59] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: We gave you link to search for packages.  Learn how to use it first will make things much much easier for you.
 lol
[11:59] <Slart> Ilmatic: sudo apt-get install wireshark will install it
[11:59] <Younder> I was thinking of stumpwm
[11:59] <mkultra_> ./configure --help will help your wire shark situation
[12:00] <Ilmatic> yayyy thanks slart
[12:00] <faileas> nelson8874: ok, we can be semi sute it'll work.. so..  read the readme - make sure the prerequisites it mentions are installed. then
[12:00] <Younder> ok, so I also like vim
[12:00] <Younder> rather than gvim
[12:00] <mkultra_> i like elvis
[12:00] <catlady> elvis would have loved ubuntu
[12:00] <Tiders> Ilmatic, A useful command to know is "apt-cache search <name>" and that will give you a list of packages that contain that word or phrase
[12:00] <Younder> mkultra_, well, still a vi clone
[12:01] <faileas> nelson8874: ./configure first - if it works, then 'make', then either sudo make install, or sudo checkinstall - the latter needs the checkinstall package but it makes a package instead of installing, which is easier later
[12:01] <Ilmatic> thanks mucho tiders. : )
[12:01] <mosfet> hi... anyone know how many size is a base system installation with ubuntu minimal disc?
[12:01] <mkultra_> ./configure && make && su -c 'make install'
[12:01] <mkultra_> lets be gangsta about it
[12:01] <Younder> mosfet, 8 MB
[12:01] <kinja-sheep> mosfet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[12:02] <faileas> mkultra_: you don't use su on ubuntu, generally
[12:02] <mkultra_> su -c?
[12:02] <catlady> when does LTS come out?
[12:02] <faileas> mosfet: under a gig
[12:02] <Younder> mkultra_, see sudo
[12:02] <faileas> catlady: next release is LTS- its due in april
[12:02] <mkultra_> ive only installed sudo on my LFS box i dont have sudo on here
[12:02] <oeil2lynx24> hi
[12:02] <faileas> mkultra_: this isn't LFS. this is ubuntu, and it uses sudo
[12:02] <nelson8874> faileas: i'm noob, i do not understand what you're saying. And english is not my first language...
[12:02] <Younder> mkultra_, you have to set it up.
[12:02] <catlady> thanks...I'm on Jaunty....Karmic upgrade was disaster....decided to wait it out
[12:02] <oeil2lynx24> hello the world
[12:03] <Younder> mkultra_, on ubuntu it is already set up
[12:03] <Slart> catlady: 2010, month 4... hence the version number 10.04
[12:03] <mkultra_> su -c should be as good as sudo on ANY nix system
[12:03] <catlady> ok
[12:03] <faileas> nelson8874: ok. you have extracted the archive. there should be a readme file there. it should tell you what other packages you need.
[12:03] <nelson8874> faileas: are you're saying i should configure it? what does that mean?
[12:03] <faileas> also, read that link about compiling
[12:03] <candeira> it worked!
[12:03] <Slart> mkultra_: ubuntu doesn't have a root password set.. su uses the root password
[12:03] <oeil2lynx24> ya til d francofones ici ?
[12:03] <Younder> catlady, good choice. I have just now gotten everything to work again
[12:03] <nelson8874> faileas: ok packages...
[12:04] <faileas> nelson8874: its a command. ./configure basically checks to see if you have everything you need, and tells you if anything is missing.
[12:04] <Slart> mkultra_: and just in case.. no we don't support having a root password set either
[12:04] <mkultra_> i see your saying root is completely locked down
[12:04] <catlady> jaunty works perfect for me...karmic had screen resolution problems, faulty disk notices...and ubuntu one glitches..nightmare
[12:05] <Slart> mkultra_: I don't know about locked down.. but the root password isn't set.. you can still use sudo for your root things.. sudo -i for a shell and so on
[12:05] <Younder> Slart, I have it set.. I just use it if I have to log in for maintenance if X boot should fail
[12:05] <fogobogo> nelson8874: mind you will need the -dev packages. else the linker will fail
[12:05] <faileas> nelson8874: if it works, go on to using the command 'make' . if that works 'make install' puts everything where it should be. checkinstall is an optional package that makes a deb instead of installing it- i prefer this approach since i can add and remove self compiled apps with apt or dpkg
[12:05] <faileas> you use make install or checkinstall, depending
[12:05] <Tiders> mkultra_, Ubuntu does not have a root account because it is more secure.  If someone is going to hack into your system the first name they would try to use is "root" because every system woudl have this it is harder to guess a username.  Also this makes it able for every user to have a different admin password instead of everyone sharing the root account so if you need to remove admin rights from someone you can remove them from the
[12:05] <Tiders>  sudoer list and not have to change the root password and re-tell everyone the new password
[12:05] <Slart> Younder: the recovery mode will get you a root shell.. and you can still login in with your regular user if X fails to start
[12:06] <Younder> Slart, yes but the root shell requires a root password
[12:06] <Slart> Younder: but anyways.. it's not forbidden to have a root password.. it's just that we don't support it here in this channel
[12:06] <mkultra_> but with sudo you could sudo passwd
[12:06] <Slart> Younder: no
[12:06] <nelson8874> faileas: installing that program is complicated, i've tried another one, instaled with no proble,  but it says "You can not access the partitions because the user who launched wiithon not belong to the group "disk"." Showing the games of the last session.
[12:06] <mobius2> well everybody have a good night from Colorado
[12:06] <Younder> Slart, to log in you need to add the text option to the grub line
[12:06] <nelson8874> what does thast mean?
[12:06] <Slart> mkultra_: noone has said it's impossible.. but we do no support it here
[12:06] <faileas> nelson8874: hmm- that's fixable - you add yourself to the group
[12:06] <catlady> good night mobius2
[12:07] <nelson8874> faileas: how??
[12:07] <Slart> Younder: there is a recovery option in grub that will get you a root shell.. without root password.. without extra switches and so on
[12:07] <Slart> Younder: not sure if it's just busybox or a real shell.. but still
[12:07] <szpuni> hi
[12:08] <nelson8874> faileas: damn, that is the hard part of linux, instaling things is almost everytime a dificult task
[12:08] <szpuni> how I can check who changed or readed file in ubuntu?
[12:08] <szpuni> is there any command which I can use
[12:08] <faileas> nelson8874: 'sudo usermod -g disk username' should work for the latter
 cioa dude
[12:08] <faileas> nelson8874: it gets easier with experience
[12:09] <geirha> faileas, nelson8874: No that's bad. Use adduser instead. ''adduser user group'' adds user to group
[12:09] <geirha> (with sudo in front of course)
[12:09] <uk72tab> DID
[12:10] <geirha> faileas: usermod -g will change the gid of the user
[12:10] <Younder> geirha, that's bad advice, just adduser doesn't set up the groups right
[12:10] <nelson8874> geirha: adduser: O utilizador `user' não existe
[12:11] <geirha> nelson8874: sudo adduser yourusername thegrouptoadditto
[12:11] <uk72tab> DID
[12:11] <uk72tab> KPO
[12:11] <uk72tab> PHP
[12:11] <uk72tab> DE
[12:11] <dr0id> how can I get quicktime on ubuntu?
[12:11] <uk72tab> SS
[12:11] <FloodBot3> uk72tab: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:11] <geirha> Younder: What do you mean?
[12:11] <uk72tab> DF
[12:11] <uk72tab> LS
[12:12] <faileas> geirha: adduser will erase other groups your in, iirc
[12:12] <nelson8874> geirha: ahhh, ok...:-[
[12:12] <uk72tab> OK
[12:12] <faileas> nelson8874, geirha : http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/
[12:12]  * mkultra_ punches uk72tab in the face
[12:12] <Younder> geirha, tried that. You are better off using off using the menu system -> administration -> users and groups
[12:12] <mikebeecham> hi there...I'm having problems mounting my HTC Hero onto Jaunty...can anyone help?
[12:13] <mkultra_> is it an ISO?
[12:14] <mikebeecham> mkultra_: are you talking to me?
[12:14] <nelson8874> geirha: adduser: the user myusername do not exist
[12:14] <catlady> nelson8874: I'm looking to buy a webcam for my Dell that will play nice in Ubuntu...any suggestions?
[12:14] <mkultra_> yeah mikebeecham
[12:14] <Younder> catlady, any webcam will do
[12:14] <mikebeecham> mkultra_: it's an android phone!
[12:15] <Slart> catlady: webcams can be tricky.. I would go find a model that seems nice.. then search the ubuntu forums to see if there are a lot of people asking about it or reporting success stories
[12:15] <catlady> thanks
[12:15] <geirha> Younder: adduser is the preferred way in the terminal. Maybe you confuse it with useradd?
[12:16] <geirha> nelson8874: Sure you got it right? It's case-sensitive
[12:16] <nelson8874> geirha: should i create a user name first?
[12:16] <mkultra_> fix your skeleton first
[12:16] <Younder> geirha, been a while since i did it, but I seem to remember you you need a fe addgrp's as well
[12:16] <Younder> few
[12:17] <unop> Younder, the 'disk' group already exists as a system group tho
[12:17] <geirha> nelson8874: Didn't you want to add your current user to the group?
[12:17] <mkultra_> man usermod
[12:18] <mkultra_> its usermod -g group
[12:18] <mkultra_> its usermod -g <group>
[12:18] <geirha> mkultra_: NO! that changes the primary group
[12:18] <unop> gee
[12:18] <mkultra_> lol i pointed @ the manual first
[12:18] <edeca> I installed a bunch of packages from a repository by mistake before pinning.  Am I safe to remove them, pin correctly in /etc/apt/preferences and then reinstall them?
[12:19] <Younder> edeca, no
[12:19] <nelson8874> geirha: i just installed the program, and it keeped saying "You can not access the partitions because the user who launched wiithon not belong to the group "disk". Showing the games of the last session." since... I should create a username and join the group...?
[12:19] <edeca> Younder: So what's the best fix?
[12:19] <edeca> Younder: I basically want to revert to the versions of packages before I did the mistaken upgrade
[12:19] <nelson8874> geirha: wiithon is a wbfs partition manager
[12:20] <unop> nelson8874,  just run this command, as it is.   sudo adduser "$USER" disk
[12:20] <unop> nelson8874, and no, you don't need to create any further users or groups
[12:21] <Younder> edeca, the source for this kinda thing is www.ubuntugeek.com
[12:21] <mkultra_> caugh usermod
[12:21] <unop> edeca,  remove them and then use the -t flag to apt-get or aptitude to force target release
[12:21] <nelson8874> unop: it says that i'm already a member of disk
[12:21] <edeca> unop: That's what I planned
[12:21] <geirha> nelson8874: For the new group membership to take effect, you need to logout and log back in
[12:21] <Younder> edeca, also thegeekstuff is woth reading
[12:21] <Younder> worth
[12:22] <unop> edeca,  i.e.   apt-get install -t karmic package ...
[12:22] <edeca> unop: I've pinned correctly now, so it should stick to the right versions :)
[12:22] <edeca> unop: It's actually debian-backports (for apt-dater-host, which isn't in anything else)
[12:22] <edeca> unop: But obviously I don't want apache/mysql/etc from debian backports :)
[12:22] <Younder> versionining is a real problem in Karmic
[12:22] <unop> edeca, hmm, as long as you know what you are doing
[12:23] <Younder> one that has not been successfully solved
[12:23] <nelson8874> unop: do you know this program. Can i use it to format my pen in wbfs?
[12:23] <unop> nelson8874, which program? I guess not
[12:24] <nelson8874> geirha: how do i logout
[12:24] <petsounds> hi. can anybody tell me, i forgot the ssh cmd for nautilus to share file between two ubuntu computer. thanks
[12:24] <edeca> petsounds: scp
[12:24] <unop> nelson8874,  errm, log off - from the gnome menu
[12:24] <nelson8874> i'm almost rippig my hair off!!!!!
[12:25] <BCMM> is it possible to "install" packages while running the ubuntu live cd?
[12:25] <BCMM> (as in, for the live session)
[12:25] <unop> nelson8874,  you know the menu item you use to shutdown/restart the PC, beside these options is something like "logout"
[12:25] <petsounds> edeca, no. sthe like " name.ipaddress "
[12:25] <unop> petsounds, errm,    ssh -X  hostname nautilus
[12:26] <nelson8874> unop: restart the pc, right?
[12:26] <unop> nelson8874, no, you don't need to restart, just logout and log back in
[12:26] <Younder> any easy way to convert a old macs \r to \n
[12:26] <Younder> ?
[12:26] <Younder> Or ill just do it the old way in C
[12:27] <unop> Younder,   perl -i -0pe 's/\r/\n/g' file
[12:27] <Guest6877> hello
[12:27] <Younder> unop: thaks. I just realized sed wouln't cut it
[12:28] <unop> Younder, sed can do it, as long as you change the "pattern space" (I guess that's the term) - but that's unweildly
[12:28] <geirha> Younder: And tr: tr '\r' '\n' <file >newfile
[12:29] <nelson8874> IT WORKED, IT WORKED
[12:29] <Younder> geirha, ah forgot about tr
[12:29] <nelson8874> FINNALLY
[12:29] <unop> yay!!
[12:29] <catlady> congrats
[12:29] <Younder> nelson8874, don't scream...
[12:30] <nelson8874> i'm to happy, sorry...
[12:30] <nelson8874> :)
[12:30] <Guest6877> are organizing a osscamp for all the linux enthusiasts in chandiagrh
[12:31] <Guest6877> for any further info please join the googler group : http://groups.google.com/group/osscampchandigarh
[12:31] <nelson8874> but the program do not do what i expected :'(