[07:14] <fidel> jarco: do you have an actual issue/problem or just willing to discuss that new gnome-remix thing? if so consider using the offtopic channel?
[07:15] <LiDaR> !ot > jarco
[07:15] <LiDaR> so how about the weather
[07:15] <jarco> I am actually wondering if I am the only one with gnome installed as a default
[07:16] <kay-kay> hi
[07:16] <kay-kay> hi
[07:16] <jarco> sorry i said that wron,g
[07:16] <kay-kay> hi
[07:16] <kay-kay> hi
[07:16] <kay-kay> hi
[07:16] <kay-kay> hi
[07:16] <kay-kay> hi
[07:16] <FloodBot1> kay-kay: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:16] <ikonia> jarco: reading that wiki - yes, it will be a gnome 3 with gnome shell install, with bits missing, but at this stage the whole project looks empty, so I'd ignore it
[07:16] <kay-kay> hello?
[07:16] <Audrey> #
[07:16] <ikonia> kay-kay: you said hello
[07:16] <LiDaR> lots n lots of times
[07:17] <jarco> My actual question. I am the only one who had gnome installed as an alternative to unity on my system? I used unetbootin so perhaps its different.
[07:17] <Audrey> dalyna.hoarau
[07:17] <jarco> I can make a choice. Unity or gnome. It was like that right after install
[07:17] <ikonia> jarco: many people have gnome shell installed instead of unity
[07:17] <omps> hi all
[07:17] <ikonia> jarco: there is more to gnome 3 enviornment than just gnome shell, the wiki page alludes to that
[07:17] <ebs512> just to let you guys know the command for creating a root launcher icon is gksu nautilus
[07:17] <ikonia> ebs512: I know the command
[07:18] <ebs512> in ubuntu 12.04
[07:18] <ikonia> no-one asked for tha
[07:18] <ikonia> that
[07:18] <LiDaR> ebs512: thats what people told you
[07:18] <jarco> ikonia, Ok. But do they also get gnome shell by default in 12.04? Or is that unique here?
[07:18] <ebs512> everyone was giving me the gnome command
[07:18] <ikonia> jarco: you don't get it by default, you have to install/configure it
[07:18] <mancdaz_> are there any known issues with any update servers right now? trying to update 12.04 and getting 404s
[07:18] <jarco> ikonia, Then Unetbootin does this. I didn't install it myself.
[07:19] <ikonia> jarco: unetbootin doesn't do anything but put a install CD onto the USB
[07:19] <jarco> So my whole question about this project is unfounded :)
[07:19] <LiDaR> jarco: i can choose fluxbox and window maker as well you should be jealous of me ;)
[07:19] <omps> i need help my remmina client closes itself when i try to take remote desktop of any window machine,  the same works fine from windows machine
[07:19] <LiDaR> omps: open a terminal and run iot maybe you can get a error message
[07:21] <LiDaR> omps: "its broke" we cant help with but an error message .. they are so useful they almost always lead to a solution
[07:21] <Guest33360> hi guys, i'm trying to configure a hot spot via hostapd and i'm having a bit of trouble, could anyone help?
[07:27] <omps> Thanks LiDaR
[07:27] <omps> i will get the output
[07:27] <devnill> has anyone gotten frequency scaling to work in xfce?
[07:27] <devnill> Specifically a on screen monitor
[07:31] <pyrrhic> I can't get TERA Online running in WINE and the appdb rates it as silver =/
[07:34] <jalexandru> hi, trying to edit a java software using Mercurial, I need to run "ant dist" but I get error with javac compiler the terminal output is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1185254/ ; ubuntu software center shows OpenJDK Java 6 Runtime installed do I need to install something else?
[07:37] <TJ-> jalexandru: When developing Java software you'd want the -jdk packages (Java Development Kit) installed. The standard install is the JRE only (Java Runtime Environment)
[07:40] <Wizard> jalexandru: Perhaps JAVA_HOME does not point to the JDK.
[07:40] <Wizard> Install JDK.
[07:40] <Ascavasaion> I dabbled with LUbuntu, then Lubuntu, and now want to go back to old Ubuntu with Gnome Desktop.  Each time I boot it flashes an Lubuntu screen, then the GDM login, then it opens the Lubuntu desktop.  Please can someone help me and tell me how to get back to a clean no fuss Ubuntu again?
[07:41] <Wizard> Ascavasaion: Select different session in login screen.
[07:41] <Ascavasaion> Wizard: GDM does not allow that.
[07:41] <Wizard> Yes, it does.
[07:42] <Ascavasaion> Wizard: Okay, let me try again.
[07:43] <TJ-> Ascavasaion: There's a 'gear' icon against each log-in name on the greeter screen that allows to select the desktop environment for that log-in
[07:44] <Bahaman> /eixt
[07:44] <herheart> hi could anyone help me with flash on 12.04 x64?
[07:45] <herheart> videos are in fast forward in chrome, only html5 works
[07:45] <herheart> in firefox they're in slow motion
[07:45] <herheart> I've tried disabling/reinstalling different plugins but nothing
[07:45] <CrashRainbowtron> herheart: on which websites?
[07:45] <herheart> youtube, vimeo, facebook
[07:45] <herheart> it's just flash I believe
[07:46] <herheart> I looked it up and this is an old error
[07:46] <herheart> but there's no fixes apparently
[07:46] <Ascavasaion> Wizard: Worked like a charm, thank you.
[07:47] <herheart> anybody have an idea?
[07:47] <Wizard> Ascavasaion: You can now uninstall lubuntu related artwork
[07:47] <emph> How do I make it so that when I open a movie it automatically plays with X player I choose instead of the default one that comes with Ubuntu?
[07:47] <Wizard> dpkg -l | grep lubuntu will show what's installed.
[07:48] <Ascavasaion> Wizard: Thank you.  Could you tell me how I can get back to old Gnome desktop, and not this Unity thing?
[07:48] <herheart> emph: in system settings
[07:48] <CrashRainbowtron> herheart: I've had that problem before in debian and it turned out to be something else, like codecs or something weird like that.  It could easily be different for you, though, especially since this is a different distro and newer version of flash.  I don't remember how I got it working, but hopefully, the hint to look for other problems should help you.
[07:48] <herheart> emph: system settings > other > default applications
[07:48] <herheart> hmm ok
[07:49] <herheart> CrashRainbowtron: I think I reinstalled the ubuntu restricted extras package recently and it coincides with when the errors started
[07:50] <emph> herheart: Thank you very much, now I guess I just have to restart
[07:50] <CrashRainbowtron> herheart: That contains some weird codecs, afaik.  try undoing that change and see what happens.
[07:51] <CrashRainbowtron> emph: you shouldn't have to restart after changing a default app
[07:51] <emph> CrashRainbowtron: Then it hasn't changed, and I have no idea why
[07:52] <emph> I went to Details - Predetermined applications - Changed "Video"
[07:52] <herheart> CrashRainbowtron: I can't remove ubuntu-restricted-extras, I need it to play videos and music
[07:52] <herheart> I don't think it's related
[07:52] <Wizard> Ascavasaion: install gnome-session-classic.
[07:52] <Wizard> Ore something like this.
[07:53] <herheart> oh wait you're right, it contains Flash
[07:53] <emph> I'll restart anyway, see if it changes or not
[07:53] <herheart> I might just remove the package "flashplugin-installer", chrome has its own flash anyway, right?
[07:53] <Wizard> Ascavasaion: BTW, better get used to Unity ;]
[07:54] <CrashRainbowtron> ffs, I was in the middle of typing something for emph
[07:54] <CrashRainbowtron> I told them not to reboot.  Some people just don't listen
[07:54] <vampirnata> morning
[07:54] <herheart> haha
[07:55] <vampirnata> does anyone here have experience with juniper netscreen and racoon vpn tunnels?
[07:55] <TJ-> Ascavasaion: I find Unity gives my mouse more exercise - stops it getting fat; with multiple HiDef monitors it spends a lot of time running up to the top of screens and back down t the lower right quadrant for some programs :D
[07:56] <emph> So I restarted, but it still uses the default player by default
[07:56] <herheart> removed ubuntu-restricted-extras, problem has not been solved :(
[07:56] <emph> Even though when I go to system settings it IS changed
[07:57] <rajvi> Hello all, I discover 12.04 looks less bright on my Toshiba Satellite MX50-MX5.The slider for brightness is set to maximum.I tried to lower it no-effect.Feels like something wrong with my graphics.
[07:58] <Timo> Hello. Help greatly appreciated with the following problem: I have a dual boot system Fedora 17 and Ubuntu 12.04 with 4 users. I would like to use same /home folders for both sides. The user IDs on fedora are 500-503 and on Ubuntu 1000-1003. Mounting folders works fine, but access rights are still a mess. How do I grant access to my users on Ubuntu?
[07:58] <CrashRainbowtron> Ascavasaion: my mouse has hyperthyroidism
[07:58] <TJ-> emph: That sounds like the mime-type of the files you're playing might be over-riding the default application.
[07:59] <Waraudon> Is anyone having problems with Machine Check Exceptions with ACPI in 12.04?
[07:59] <CrashRainbowtron> emph: as I was trying to tell you when you rebooted against my advice, try right-clicking on a file of the type you wish to open and use the "Open with other application" setting.
[08:00] <emph> TJ: I have no idea what you mean, but if it's of any use when I right-click on the file I'm going to reproduce the default Ubuntu player still shows on top while the one I now set to default shows as an alternative option
[08:00] <CrashRainbowtron> emph: wait, I misspoke
[08:00] <TJ-> Waraudon: Not that I've heard. Do you get any errors logged in /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/kern.log ?
[08:00] <CrashRainbowtron> emph: let me find the dialog I'm talking about.
[08:00] <emph> CrashRainbowtron: I followed your advice, but I had to try anyway just in case all it needed was a simple reboot
[08:01] <Waraudon> TJ-: Unfortunately it doesn't make it past boot. It's a kernel panic, and adding acpi=off seems to resolve it. I figured it wasn't an actual hardware problem since Windows has been working fine, as did Ubuntu 11.10 when I used it last
[08:01] <vampirnata> Anyone familiar with the error: "ERROR: phase1 negotiation failed due to send error." when trying to create a VPN tunnel from a private lan to a public Juniper Netscreen firewall?
[08:02] <Waraudon> TJ-: At first I figured it was related to using Wubi, but I also downloaded and verified a 12.04.1 image and put it onto a USB stick, same thing happens when booting live mode
[08:02] <TJ-> Waraudon: Ahhh. Are you able to boot that system with a serial cable attached? If so, you can set the kernel's command line to use the serial console and capture the output on a 2nd PC
[08:03] <CrashRainbowtron> emph: ok, there are two ways to do this.  the "open with other application" dialog that I mentioned earlier(be sure to check "remember this application") or go to the "open with" tab in the file's properties.  The latter should be the most reliable.
[08:03] <Waraudon> TJ-: I might be able to do it technically, but not at the moment. I have a picture of the resulting panic though
[08:04] <TJ-> Waraudon: better than nothing!
[08:04] <raro03> hayhayhay
[08:04] <emph> CrashRainbowtron: The problem is that there is no "remember this application" box/button, else I would have done that before changing the system settings
[08:04] <TJ-> Waraudon: Put it up on http://imagebin.org/
[08:05] <CrashRainbowtron> emph: then use the other method I mentioned.
[08:05] <crimsonmane> Waraudon: are you aware of the Alternate Installers?
[08:06] <emph> CrashRainbowtron: I found the "remember this application", although it was inside the movie's properties, which makes me fear I just saved the configuration for this particular movie
[08:06] <CrashRainbowtron> emph: no, I'm pretty sure that is for every file of that type.
[08:07] <Waraudon> crimsonmane: Yea, but I suspect it might happen with those too, assuming they use the same kernel
[08:07] <TJ-> emph: If you need to tinker directly you need to look at the declared mime-type handlers. Per-user, you'll find the over-rides in ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list and mimeminfo.cache ... more than likely in the "Added Associations" section
[08:07] <rajvi> Graphics:Unknown.How can i resolve it 12.04
[08:07] <Waraudon> TJ-: Unfortunately the quality isn't as good as I thought it was and I didn't capture the entire output, I can boot it up again normally though and get a better image http://i.imgur.com/UI4Ov.jpg
[08:07] <crimsonmane> Waraudon: their purpose is to get around the issue.
[08:08] <rajvi> I think my on some generic monitor.
[08:08] <TJ-> Waraudon: That's a good photo! Better than most I've captured with a camcorder in the past!
[08:09] <CrashRainbowtron> emph: afaik, there is no way of tracking what individual files are opened with which programs.  That would be a nighmarish filesystem.
[08:09] <Waraudon> TJ- : I can tentatively confirm that booting with acpi=off fixes it though, at least nothing has happened yet. I'm in Ubuntu now.
[08:10] <emph> CrashRainbowtron: If so, then brilliant. I'm downloading a video file now to test that
[08:10] <TJ-> Waraudon: So this is a regression on that hardware for a kernel upgrade is it?
[08:10] <rajvi> On 12.04 sliding the brightness bar have no effect.
[08:11] <Waraudon> TJ-: It seems that way, perhaps its related to ACPI somehow on this particular board, it's an MSI P55-GD65 motherboard and the CPU is an Intel i5-750, and 8GB of Corsair XMS3 RAM which has tested fine in Memtest over night
[08:11] <TJ-> rajvi: That depends on the video graphics driver the system is using. For example, by default, the Nvidia proprietary driver doesn't support it
[08:11] <rajvi> I am on on Nvidia
[08:12] <TJ-> Waraudon: Had the file-system been mounted read/write at the time of the MCE? If so, there' might be something in /var/crash (forlorn hope though!) ?
[08:12] <rajvi> My bad, I am not on Nvidia
[08:12] <TJ-> rajvi: That's the reason then. I've recently been working on bringing a new kernel module into Ubuntu that does it. I have it working well here
[08:12] <TJ-> rajvi: OK, scratch my comment then :D
[08:13] <jalexandru> Hi, I'm trying to run ant dist for a project, ant is unable to locate tools.jar (it's expecting to find it in the wrong folder) how can I change the expected folder in ant? or do I need to do it somehow other...
[08:13] <jalexandru> ?
[08:13] <Waraudon> TJ-: I don't think so, although since the installed copy on the hard drive crashes in the same manner as the Live media, I might be able to get some more information about it
[08:13] <foreverwin32> Hey guys, I'm trying to add a PPA but I can't
[08:13] <emph> CrashRainbowtron: Good, now it's the player by default for all video files, thanks
[08:14] <rajvi> Good, I can wait. Its my 60 years dad's  laptop.
[08:14] <foreverwin32> This is the PPA I'm trying to add: https://launchpad.net/~a-v-shkop/+archive/chromium    Please help me
[08:14] <CrashRainbowtron> emph: maybe not for all video files.  You may need to do it again for files oof different formats.
[08:15] <TJ-> Waraudon: When you manage to boot with a serial console attached; remove "quiet splash" and use "debug", or boot to the recovery option with "debug single" that will get maximum logging
[08:16] <TJ-> Waraudon: I'm typing up your MCE so I can decode it through mcelog
[08:17] <Waraudon> TJ-: I was going to try that too but I don't have any experience with mcelog
[08:18] <foreverwin32>  Guys, could you help me add that PPA?
[08:19] <timfrost> foreverwin32: what method are you using to add it?
[08:20] <foreverwin32> ppa:v-shkop/chromium
[08:20] <foreverwin32> Tried now using Y ppa manager, it worked
[08:21] <TJ-> Waraudon: the man-page says this: "When an uncorrected machine check error happens that the kernel cannot recover from then it will usually panic the  sys‐
[08:21] <TJ->        tem.   In  this  case  when  there was a warm reset after the panic mcelog should pick up the machine check errors after reboot.  This is not possible after a cold reset."
[08:22] <TJ-> Waraudon: So it sounds like if you install mcelog package, then when the panic occurs, reboot into an earlier working kernel in recovery mode, you should be able to extract a good MCE log
[08:23] <Waraudon> TJ-: I can try that, a couple of times when it happened it did restart automatically after 30 seconds
[08:25] <TJ-> Waraudon: not too much more info, but http://paste.ubuntu.com/1185308/
[08:27] <Waraudon> TJ-: I went ahead and ran mcelog anyway just to see what it does, and I get "mcelog: warning: 16 bytes ignored in each record" "mcelog: consider an update"
[08:28] <TJ-> Waraudon: Sounds like you have a newer CPU than the current mcelog knows about; maybe use the package from Quantal
[08:30] <gordonjcp> I might put Quantal on my macbook
[08:30] <Waraudon> TJ-: unfortunately it seems the mcelog package in Quantual is the same version
[08:30] <Wizard> Aww..
[08:31] <Waraudon> I might be able to compile it from source depending on how involved it is
[08:32] <cihhan> Hi all! I'm trying to write an ssh client in C++ that will just send some commands to the server. Do you have any suggestions?
[08:32] <gordonjcp> cihhan: what, commands to the shell?
[08:33] <cihhan> gordonjcp: yes, my ssh client will send some commands to another computer
[08:33] <jalexandru> Hi, I'm trying to run ant dist for a project, ant is unable to locate tools.jar (it's expecting to find it in the wrong folder) how can I change the expected folder in ant? or do I need to do it in another way?
[08:33] <cihhan> I have tried this link: http://api.libssh.org/stable/libssh_tutor_guided_tour.html
[08:33] <Wizard> cihhan: Default ssh client can.
[08:33] <cihhan> But Im getting some linking problems
[08:33] <gordonjcp> cihhan: ssh <host> <command>
[08:33] <gordonjcp> it's that simple
[08:33] <TJ-> Waraudon: It looks to be a small package. This Intel document looks like it could help you http://download.intel.com/design/intarch/PAPERS/324077.pdf
[08:34] <cihhan> You are right guys, but my advisor wants me to write a C/C++ program for that
[08:34] <Wizard> ROTFLMAO
[08:34] <Wizard> People are just stupid :D
[08:34] <gordonjcp> cihhan: oh, so we're doing your homework for you now? ;-)
[08:35] <gordonjcp> cihhan: pastebin the error you're getting, and post the link in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:35] <cihhan> not homework, project and im not asking you to do it, im asking for suggestions...
[08:35] <cihhan> if you have ever tried
[08:35] <tsimpson> cihhan: grab the source of the ssh client and see how it works
[08:36] <TJ-> cihhan: Those linking errors will likely be because you're not telling the compiler to link in the SSH libraries that implement the SSH functions  your program is calling
[08:36] <gordonjcp> cihhan: still, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic because it's not directly related to Ubuntu support
[08:37] <cihhan> gordonjcp: Yeah, you are right :) Thanks a lot :)
[08:38] <Waraudon> TJ-: I checked /var/log/mcelog anyway and there's a little more information http://paste.ubuntu.com/1185320/
[08:38] <Timo> How come my users disappear from the users list if I change their UID?
[08:38] <ikonia> Timo: you're making a "new user"
[08:39] <ikonia> the username isn't that important
[08:39] <ikonia> the UID is
[08:39] <gordonjcp> cihhan: I'll see you in #u-ot then; have you got your code pastebinned?
[08:40] <TJ-> Waraudon: bug #809313
[08:40] <TJ-> Waraudon: That bug has the "MCA: Internal Timer error" issue... might be related
[08:40] <Ascavasaion> I am running 11.04... is it worth my while to upgrade to 11.10 and then to 12.04, etc?
[08:41] <Timo> Ikonia: I am trying to share home folders between Fedora and Ubuntu. Fedora user has UID 502 and the Ubuntu user 1002. I changed the Ubuntu user to 502 with the result that it is not possible to log in as him anymore.
[08:42] <ikonia> Timo: that's a low uid
[08:42] <Timo> Low uid means?
[08:42] <ikonia> Timo: is this a system account or an unprivileged user ?
[08:42] <ikonia> Timo: how did you change the uid ?
[08:43] <Timo> Unpriviledged user. timo@timo-desktop:/$ sudo groupmod -g 502 aaron
[08:43] <Timo> timo@timo-desktop:/$ sudo usermod -g 502 aaron
[08:43] <Timo> A normal user that I would like to have access to his home folder both in Fedora and Ubuntu.
[08:43] <ikonia> Timo: that's a group id
[08:44] <ikonia> Timo: that's not the uid
[08:44] <Waraudon> TJ-: It might be related, interestingly enough disabling acpi allows it to boot but it hasn't been on long enough for me to consider it stable yet
[08:44] <Timo>  timo@timo-desktop:/home$ id aaron
[08:44] <Timo> uid=502(aaron) gid=502(aaron) groups=502(aaron)
[08:44] <Timo> However, this 502 aaron is not visible in the login window.
[08:45] <TJ-> Waraudon: Disabling ACPI isn't a great solution though, since it disables control and monitoring of key sub-systems
[08:45] <TJ-> Waraudon: Is the system over-clocked?
[08:45] <ikonia> Timo: I don't see where you have changed the uid
[08:46] <Timo> timo@timo-desktop:/$ sudo usermod -u 502 aaron
[08:46] <ikonia> Timo: ok, so please show me the output of "ls -la /home" in a pastebin please.
[08:47] <sha0coder> hi
[08:47] <TJ-> Timo: Is your problem that you no longer see the user listed on the greeter log-in screen for X?
[08:47] <sha0coder> which tool can i use to manage services?
[08:47] <Timo> http://pastebin.com/3291FQQP
[08:47] <Timo> TJ. Yes!
[08:48] <Waraudon> TJ-: It's not overclocked, but I haven't tried changing any of the CPU related options yet like C1E and Turbo Boost
[08:48] <luftikuss> What does »barcoding« mean in /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/barcoding? My file contains the string '1Z7SS33C121'.
[08:48] <TJ-> Timo:  The lowest UID that can log-in is set in /etc/login.defs as UID_MIN and is usually 1000. You can edit that file.
[08:48] <ikonia> Timo: ok, so you need to sort the permissions out on your /home directory for starters
[08:48] <TJ-> Waraudon: Looks like those can be cuplrits; we must be reading the same search results :)
[08:49] <Sandra888> is there anybody could help me partitioning ?
[08:49] <gordonjcp> !help | Sandra888
[08:50] <spidernik84> Hi guys, which tool do you use to build virtual machines on KVM? I always used ubuntu-vm-builder but I heard development on it has stopped.
[08:51] <ikonia> livbirt ?
[08:51] <Aetion> you could use libvirt
[08:51] <Sandra888> I'm installing xubuntu on a dual boot mini mac, and I can't configure partition properly, how to set mounting point and so on using gparted?
[08:51] <Waraudon> TJ-: Next time I reboot I'll experiment with those settings and see what I can find, probably starting with Turbo Boost
[08:51] <gordonjcp> does libvirt actually create the images, though?
[08:51] <spidernik84> Does it take care of installing the os without user intervention?
[08:51] <Aetion> you can configure the vms using libvirt
[08:51] <ikonia> gordonjcp: it creates the metal/tin for OS install
[08:51] <spidernik84> I think it creates only the vm itself
[08:51] <ikonia> gordonjcp: you tell it to boot/install from $media
[08:52] <gordonjcp> ikonia: yah, that's not the same thing
[08:52] <ikonia> correct, you'll need to install the OS into the VM
[08:52] <TJ-> spidernik84: build? If you launch using kvm/qemu itself you just need kvm-img and the options on the command line (started via  shell script often)
[08:52] <Aetion> the images are qcow2 image, which you make using the qemu-img tool
[08:52] <ikonia> do you want pre-configured machines ?
[08:52] <ikonia> as in OS already installed
[08:52] <spidernik84> What I do with vm-builder is pass some parameters and it will take care of interacting with libvirt, assign resources, bootstrap the os and preseed it to a finished working os
[08:53] <Timo> TJ and Ikonia: chown 502:502 aaron does not work.
[08:53] <TJ-> spidernik84: To install an OS image into a VM, you'd tell KVM to attach an ISO image as the CD-ROM
[08:53] <ikonia> Timo: please define "doesn't work"
[08:53] <Timo> lrwxrwxrwx  1 1001 1001   15 syys   4 10:32 aaron -> /mnt/home/aaron
[08:53] <spidernik84> yes but that's manual :) I'm automating the process since we install tens of machines per day :D
[08:53] <Timo> owner stays 1001:1001
[08:53] <ikonia> Timo: it's a symlink
[08:53] <TJ-> Timo: If the directory and files are already owned by 1000:1000 wouldn't it be more sensible to change the UID of the user in Fedora to 1000 ?
[08:53] <spidernik84> but vmbuilder is basically broken on 12.04, while it works on 10.04.
[08:53] <ikonia> Timo: your data is on /mnt/home/arron
[08:54] <ikonia> Timo: you need to change that
[08:54] <tehpwnz> im trying to setup a mail server and following these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServerCourierSpamAssassin
[08:54] <TJ-> spidernik84: OK, so install one image to a qcow2 then use *overlays* on top
[08:54] <tehpwnz> but on the part where i configure apache2 to listen on the ssl port
[08:54] <tehpwnz> are those instructions correct
[08:55] <tehpwnz> i mean this: ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/ssl.load /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[08:55] <tehpwnz> isnt ln -s supposed to point to a file and not a dir?
[08:55] <Timo> TJ, it is only the mount directory that is owned by 1001 all files are owned by 502.
[08:55] <TJ-> spidernik84: the overlay then collects all the written data and the underlying image stays untouched, you can also merge overlays into images, so you could simply copy the base qcow2 to new files for each VM you want
[08:56] <TJ-> Timo: Ahhh OK! Well you need super-user rights to change the ownership on home directories. "sudo chown ...."
[08:56] <Timo> I did sudo chown, to no avail.
[08:57] <spidernik84> TJ: unfortunately it's not an option: the creation of the vm is very dynamic, we pass parameters through a puppet module. In this way every machine can be created with different resources/ram/cpu depending on the parameters you pass via puppet :(
[08:57] <spidernik84> vm-builder was working so well. Why did they abandon it?
[08:59] <sha0coder> how to stop services on ubuntu?
[09:00] <sha0coder> (whithout service command and init.d ..)
[09:00] <spidernik84> killall :D
[09:00] <TJ-> spidernik84: Maybe because it can all the done better in virsh?
[09:00] <CrashRainbowtron> sha0coder: why would you want/need to?
[09:00] <sha0coder> i can't stop the ssh daemon
[09:01] <sha0coder> i tried service command
[09:01] <CrashRainbowtron> sha0coder: kill
[09:01] <sha0coder> and  also /etc/init.d command
[09:01] <spidernik84> TJ: how can you deploy dozens of vms from bare-metal in a fully automated way?
[09:01] <sha0coder> i cant kill
[09:01] <sha0coder> it is reopened
[09:01] <sha0coder> again
[09:01] <spidernik84> by keeping the flexibility of puppet integration?
[09:01] <sha0coder> and again ..
[09:01] <sha0coder> ubuntu services are not standard
[09:02] <sha0coder> doesnt respect rc2.d links
[09:02] <sha0coder> i'm doing chmod 000 to the binaries ..
[09:02] <CrashRainbowtron> sha0coder: I think ssh servers have a special command to stop them.  look at the daemon's man pages to find the correct command syntax.
[09:02] <sha0coder> o_O
[09:02] <spidernik84> change the executable and kill it so it doesn't respawn :oP
[09:02] <sha0coder> is not a window to manage services?
[09:03] <sha0coder> yes, i chmoded it to 000
[09:03] <sha0coder> and all ok :)
[09:03] <spidernik84> lol
[09:03] <CrashRainbowtron> sha0coder: rtfm
[09:03] <TJ-> spidernik84: Well, vm-builder is jusy python scripts, so write a shim layer that pretends to be vm-builder and translates to virsh, for example
[09:03] <sha0coder> but, i will come back to archlinux XD
[09:03] <sha0coder> CrashRainbowtron, with manual?
[09:03] <sha0coder> services manpage?
[09:03] <sha0coder> *service
[09:04] <CrashRainbowtron> sha0coder: I told you to read the ssh daemon's manual.
[09:04] <sha0coder> oks
[09:04] <CrashRainbowtron> sha0coder: it should telll you how to stop it.
[09:05] <spidernik84> TJ: You know, I'm not supposed to reinvent something that has been working for years :P I don't have the time and, most importantly, the competence to do that. I'll see what I can do. I was just wondering if anyone knew if the project was dead
[09:06] <gordonjcp> spidernik84: what is, ubuntu-vm-builder?
[09:07] <spidernik84> It's a set of python scripts to create and install virtual machines on ubuntu
[09:07] <spidernik84> fully automated
[09:07] <spidernik84> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html
[09:07] <Timo12357> Seems like t low UID was the problem. Rebooted and now Aaron can log in.
[09:07] <ratz> i have a compaq c791tu. I am not able to get my wifi active. can someone please help me
[09:08] <ikonia> Timo12357: you still need to sort the permissions on your home dir
[09:08] <spidernik84> you pass some parameters and it takes care of everything with no user intervention.
[09:08] <Luc_> WINDOWS FTW
[09:08] <ikonia> Luc_: you're welcome to use Windows, this is an ubuntu support channel, so we only help with ubuntu here
[09:08] <TJ-> spidernik84: vm-builder was a hack needed by developers at the time; it got superceded
[09:09] <Timo12357> Ikonia: Only /home/aaron has 1001:1001 all subfolders are now aaron:aaron
[09:09] <spidernik84> eh I've been told so... is there any pre-mande alternative?
[09:09] <ikonia> Timo12357: ok, so you still need to fix that
[09:10] <Timo12357> Ikonia: How? Sudo chown failed.
[09:10] <ikonia> Timo12357: what command are you doing ?
[09:11] <Timo12357> Ikonia: sudo chown 502:502 aaron
[09:11] <ikonia> Timo12357: are you doing that in /home ?
[09:11] <Timo12357> Ikonia: yes.
[09:12] <ikonia> Timo12357: right, so that's the problem, as I told you earlier, /home/aaron is not a directory, it's a symlink to /mnt/home/aaron - you need to change that, not the link
[09:12] <Timo12357> Ikonia: so I should go to mnt for doing that?
[09:12] <ikonia> Timo12357: /mnt/home
[09:13] <ebs512> anyone else having an issue with font color when applying a theme in ubuntu
[09:13] <jalexandru> how can I change my java_home ? to point to jdk ? tried to export the path in /etc/profile didn't worked, tried in ~/bashrc didn't worked anywhere else?
[09:16] <ratz> guyz, i have linux mint 13 installed on my compaq c791tu, and am not able to make my wifi work. can somebody please help me?
[09:17] <Dr_willis> !mint > ratz
[09:17] <forevernix> Hi guys
[09:18] <forevernix> Why is Ubuntu using Linux 3.2 ?
[09:18] <Dr_willis> Why shouldent it be using it?
[09:18] <Auzy> Probably because nothing newer was out at the time forevernix ...
[09:18] <ubuntuTT> forevernix Becouse is the best!
[09:18] <forevernix> Dudes, 3.5.3 is out
[09:18] <ubuntuTT> best of the best man
[09:19] <Auzy> forevernix, They can't just skip to 3.5 in a stable series forevernix randomly.. Otherwise, apps might break, drivers might break, etc..
[09:19] <forevernix> 3.2 was released in Jan 2011
[09:19] <ubuntuTT> it's out but not still tested enoght so it can be very unstable
[09:19] <ubuntuTT> it can harm your PC!
[09:19] <forevernix> Right.
[09:19] <Timo12357> Ikonia: Seems it is not necessary to change the rights of the symlink. All works now.
[09:20] <ratz> ubottu: thanks ... but when i am normally stuck with anything in linux ... i have always received help from this chanell
[09:20] <TJ-> forevernix: No, January 2012
[09:20] <ubuntuTT> it can roast it..
[09:20] <Timo12357> Ikonia: Probably the grand error was the low UID.
[09:20] <ratz> thanx again
[09:20] <Auzy> forevernix, and yes.. as per TJ-
[09:20] <Timo12357> Ikonia: Thank you for the help.
[09:20] <Timo12357> TJ: Thank you for the help.
[09:20] <forevernix> you're right.
[09:20] <Dr_willis> forevernix,  and i imagine 12.10 has the newer kernel.
[09:20] <Auzy> Think about it forevernix.. If you were a corporate user, would you want a OS where "small" updates suddenly break a lot?
[09:21] <Auzy> OSX did that.. they broke protools constantly, with minor updates.. Audio guys loved that
[09:21] <TJ-> forevernix: And 12.04 was released in April. That's a pretty tight deadline for testing before release
[09:21] <forevernix> You're right guys, it's ok
[09:21] <forevernix> Also, software in Ubuntu is pretty outdated aswell
[09:21] <Auzy> TJ-, btw, are you "TheJane"?
[09:21] <forevernix> For example, Chromium is still on 18?
[09:22] <forevernix> Since the latest stable version is 22 I think
[09:22] <TJ-> forevernix: If you want to use the latest kernels, the kernel-team publishes packaged mainline kernels. I'm using 3.6 here and its very much faster, especially for suspend/resume
[09:22] <Dr_willis> Now you know the differance between a rolling release and a 6 Mo release schedulde. forevernix
[09:22] <TJ-> Auzy: No, I was "IntuitiveNipple" though :)
[09:23] <Auzy> forevernix, some is.. I use Chrome anyway.. But, once again, for stuff supported by Ubuntu, they can't update much without risking breakage.. The whole idea is to ensure that a developer can say "oh, well I tested it on 12.04, so it will work on all of 12.04".. But, you can use PPA's
[09:23] <Dr_willis> !backports
[09:23] <equex> hi. i have an old nvidia geforce 6200 that gives me white surfaces instead of proper textures when zooming out from the desktop cube. also the bottom 10% of the desktop is distorted. (not artifacts, its like the drivers dont really care to update that part). i got the same results using prop. nvidia drivers 295 and 173 and the 'nvidia-173' drivers in the repos (thats the nouvau drivers right?)
[09:23] <equex> is there any other drivers i could try? (performance is not an issue but i want a corruption free compiz desktop) some people say try 'vesa dri' i think, but what package is it ?
[09:23] <forevernix> Auzy, already installed Chromium from a PPA. The latest version
[09:24] <Ben64> I accidentally deleted an ISO that I have mounted via loop, how can I undelete it?
[09:24] <TJ-> Ben64: Is the loop still active?
[09:24] <Ben64> TJ-: yep
[09:25] <Auzy> cool forevernix.. Honestly, I wish that Ubuntu put less packages in their repo, and repos from the original developers were more strongly encouraged.. But thats my opinion, and belongs in offtopic honestly
[09:25] <TJ-> Ben64: first... don't do *anything* :D
[09:25] <Auzy> ok TJ- Seems I know two TJ's then..
[09:25] <forevernix> that would be great.
[09:25] <TJ-> Ben64: The kernel will keep files that have active file-descriptors until all FDs are closed... you can recover the file by locating the FD in the /proc/ file-system. It might take some finding, but it can be done.
[09:26] <Ben64> TJ-: i tried that, but couldn't find it there
[09:26] <TJ-> Ben64: off the top of my head I'm not sure how losetup/loop keeps the file but I know it does. Hang on whilst I find out
[09:26] <Auzy> Ben64, Could also just create an image of the file..
[09:26] <Ben64> Auzy: what file? :|
[09:26] <Auzy> if its a mounted ISO, could just image the mount..
[09:26] <Auzy> err.. if its mounted..
[09:27] <Ben64> Auzy: but it's a bootable cd, the info doesn't do me good without being able to boot
[09:27] <tanzbaer> hey hi, I got a problem with my printer (OKI DATA corp 4300 PCL). I just installed a driver. worked out well. but when i tried to print a pdf, the printer only gave me lots of pages full of source code. i have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[09:28] <TJ-> Ben64: Auzy is on the right track. If the device file is there, you can 'dd' from it to an replacement file. e.g. if 'losetup' says it's on /dev/loop0 you can do "sudo dd if=/dev/loop0 of=myfile.iso"
[09:30] <Ben64> TJ-: ah that might just work
[09:30] <pyrrhic> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=12971 Need help with WINE
[09:31] <forevernix> Hmm. Guys. I have a WD usb HDD. It does not seem to work under Ubuntu. Doesn't even show up in Gparted. Help please :)
[09:31] <Auzy> Is it a 3TB forevernix ?
[09:32] <forevernix> Lol. Nope. I think 128 GB?
[09:32] <Ben64> ssd?
[09:32] <forevernix> WD Passport
[09:32] <TJ-> forevernix: Does the USB caddy show up when you check "lsusb" ?
[09:33] <Auzy> ahh ok.. Because, I'm a media player distributor, and we've had a few newer model WD USB HDD's have serious issues on our media players.. It would be interesting to us though if there were problems in Linux too...
[09:33] <forevernix> It shows some "Linux Foundation" stuff, and "Elan Microelectronics"
[09:33] <Ben64> Auzy, TJ-: thanks, 'dd if=/dev/loop0 of=foobar.iso' worked great
[09:34] <TJ-> Ben64: Phew! *wipes brow theatrically
[09:34] <Ben64> forevernix: anything show up in dmesg when you plug it in?
[09:34] <Auzy> Thank TJ...
[09:35] <Burb2> hul
[09:35] <forevernix> Ben64: Dmesg: http://pastebin.com/8F4N2Yq4
[09:36] <pyrrhic> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=12971 -------- HELP PLEASE.
[09:36] <TJ-> forevernix: looks like there's a USB error. Is the USB caddy externally powered?
[09:36] <forevernix> TJ- Yes
[09:36] <Ben64> pyrrhic: you might want to ask in #winehq
[09:36] <TJ-> forevernix: Is it connected directly to a PC port or via a hub?
[09:36] <forevernix> TJ- It worked on Win just fine
[09:36] <ikonia> pyrrhic: that's not a question.
[09:36] <Auzy> forevernix, Is it new?
[09:37] <forevernix> It's not
[09:37] <Auzy> is it plugged in by USB3, or USB2?
[09:37] <pyrrhic> Ben64: No one there is replying
[09:37] <forevernix> 2.0
[09:37] <TJ-> Auzy: USB2
[09:37] <pyrrhic> ikonia: It's wine related and I can't get my game running.
[09:37] <ikonia> pyrrhic: ok, so the guys in #winehq will help - it's a wine issue
[09:37] <pyrrhic> ikonia: No one has replied in several hours..
[09:37] <Auzy> pyrrhic, Unfortunately, wine issues are quite complex.. They may need some debug info..
[09:38] <Ben64> forevernix: have you tried it on the root hub?
[09:38] <pyrrhic> Auzy, I must be missing some form of the tutorial because it's rated as Silver.
[09:38] <ikonia> pyrrhic: then wait
[09:38] <pyrrhic> ikonia: You're being ridiculous..
[09:38] <forevernix> Ben64, How do I do that if you don't mind? :D
[09:38] <ikonia> pyrrhic: ubuntu doesn't make/develop wine
[09:38] <Auzy> pyrrhic, there are so many Windows Apps, that unless any of us have personally tried that game/app here, it would be difficult for us to diagnose pyrrhic
[09:38] <Ben64> forevernix: plug it into the computer's usb in the back, without any other hubs or anything in between
[09:38] <Auzy> And, Windows Apps even break between Wine releases (regressions)
[09:38] <ikonia> pyrrhic: no, I'm not, it's a wine appliction that is rated as silver and is not working, the guys who develop/support wine are your correct audience to get support from
[09:38] <pyrrhic> ikonia: I know that.
[09:39] <pyrrhic> Auzy, What more could I do to clearly address the issue/
[09:39] <forevernix> Ben64. LOL! Works.
[09:39] <Ben64> yay!
[09:39] <forevernix> Thanks
[09:39] <Ben64> forevernix: i had a similar problem tonight :)
[09:39] <forevernix> But why can't I use it with the front USBs?
[09:39] <ikonia> pyrrhic: wait in the wine channel - look for life (some good guys in there) and work it through when someone with the appropriate experience is available.
[09:40] <Ben64> forevernix: well the problem is my front usbs don't give enough power, dunno about your issue
[09:40] <Auzy> pyrrhic, Further more, it might be silver, but, the guy maintaining it may be running an ATI card for instance.. You might be running Nvidia.. Wine is practically an OS in itself.. My only suggestion is: http://www.winehq.org/help/
[09:40] <forevernix> Ben64. Might be that. In the front hubs I couldn't even hear the spinning
[09:40] <pyrrhic> Auzy, Never thought about that. I'm just trying to get as far away from microsoft as possible.
[09:41] <pyrrhic> ikonia, yep
[09:41] <Ben64> pyrrhic: have you tried a clean prefix
[09:41] <Auzy> pyrrhic.. I know.. Truthfully, it is easier if you purchased the Humble Bundles.. When Steam becomes available on Linux, it will be easier..
[09:41] <ikonia> pyrrhic: you'll find a ton of issues, OS, video card, video card driver -> kernel, game, wine version, wine build options all effect it, hence why the why guys and waiting for them is the shorter route than just randomly stabbing at it
[09:42] <Ben64> Auzy: steam linux beta this year :D
[09:42] <pyrrhic> Auzy, This isn't a steam game. :D
[09:42] <TJ-> forevernix: The power issue for front ports is that they will often all share the same 500mA ... ports on the rear back-plane will usually get 500mA per port
[09:42] <pyrrhic> Ben64, Not entirely sure how to make one.
[09:42] <Auzy> It might not be, but, with Steam, will come lots of other games :P
[09:42] <forevernix> Good to know! Thanks.  Please report it against the 'linux' package
[09:44] <Auzy> It could be possible though.. Some motherboards deliver more power for devices such as iPad's/iPhones.. And, to do so might require drivers possibly.. Its a long shot though
[09:44] <forevernix> TJ-, I don't thing it's a kernel bug if that's what you mean. Tried Fedora before (using 3.5.3) and it did not work at all
[09:44] <pyrrhic> Ben64: The main issue I'm running into is, I can't get XMLLite to install
[09:44] <hassi> hi, can anyone tell me how to install .inf driver data ?
[09:44] <Auzy> hassi, Can't.. If its a wifi driver, maybe using NDISwrapper.. Otherwise, its for windows only
[09:44] <TJ-> forevernix: If windows is fine and Linux isn't - that's a kernel bug. Sounds like it's not correctly configuring the USB controller
[09:44] <Auzy> What device hassi?
[09:44] <hassi> damn
[09:45] <hassi> printer
[09:45] <hassi> was my last hope
[09:45] <Auzy> Linux has a lot of printer drivers already.. You might not need a driver
[09:45] <hassi> since xerox does not support 64 bit ubuntu-distributions
[09:45] <Auzy> also, many printers sometimes use the same drivers for multiple models..
[09:46] <hassi> @ auzy so is there any kind of "universal" driver?
[09:46] <Auzy> well.. Some printers support a generic postscript driver for instance.. Some printers simply need one from a slightly different model
[09:46] <fred-fri> im on mint 13 (ubuntu 12.04), what is the recommended way to add something to PATH?
[09:47] <Auzy> fred-fri, Maybe best to ask in #linuxmint.. but, path when and where?
[09:47] <forevernix> Also. During the installation I've formated my secondary HDD as EXT4 and mounted it at "/data" . It does not show up in the File Manager
[09:47] <Auzy> fred-fri, Dunno, but maybe .bash_profile?
[09:47] <fortuna> Hello, I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and would like to get USBFS. Can you please point me how can I configure it?
[09:47] <hassi> i tried servel other models but the printer did not go further than receiving the test-print data
[09:47] <fred-fri> Auzy: i have a program which is located in folder x, i want to add folder x to path so i can access it without its "address" in bash
[09:48] <Auzy> What is in the folder? If its one app you want to access, you could just put a symlink in an existing directory in path.. Otherwise, maybe .bash_profile (not sure the recommended convention these days, but thats how I used to do it)
[09:50] <fred-fri> ill try adding it to .profile
[09:50] <fred-fri> thats the thing, i also dont know what the recommended convention is anymore
[09:50] <fred-fri> theres so many ways of doing it
[09:50] <TJ-> Auzy: fred-fri Usually you'd add to the path in ~/.profile or possibly ~/.bashrc (if you'll always use the bash shell)
[09:50] <Kalidarn> does ubuntu by default install with GPT if you do "guided full disk"
[09:51] <fred-fri> TJ-: thanks for that info
[09:51] <Kalidarn> ie no windows install to mess things up
[09:51] <fred-fri> i guess i need to logout and login after adding something to path?
[09:51] <fred-fri> brb
[09:51] <TJ-> fred-fri:  no
[09:51] <stevecam> any news on the ubuntu for android?
[09:51] <TJ-> fred-fri You can just 'source' the file into your current terminal
[09:56] <Burb2> How can I install internet explorer on Linux ???
[09:57] <Burb2> How can I install internet explorer on Linux ???
[09:57] <dd_> morning everyone :)
[09:57] <Kalidarn> Burb2: why so troll
[09:57] <WarOfTheNerd> Burb2, you realy wan to?
[09:57] <Burb2> But I want Internet Explorer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:58] <Burb2> Yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:58] <dd_> Burb2: Try via Playonlinux
[09:58] <Kalidarn> Burb2: if you're wanting it for web dev purposes use a VM
[09:58] <WarOfTheNerd> Burb2, if so, it's quite easy
[09:58] <WarOfTheNerd> Burb2, apt-get -y install wine winetricks
[09:58] <Burb2> The best browser !!
[09:58] <Auzy> Burb2,  For testing sites.. Just use Browsershots.. Or a VM..  I suggest you go back to troll school and come back when you have at least got a passing mark in trolling.
[09:59] <pyrrhic> VMWare or Wine?
[09:59] <WarOfTheNerd> Pumpkin-, just tell him how then :)
[09:59] <gordonjcp> ie8 works surprisingly well in wine
[09:59] <WarOfTheNerd> It's easy to do with Wine
[09:59] <gordonjcp> I'd venture to say that it works a little better than it does in XP
[09:59] <Burb2> Ok, ok thank you !
[09:59] <Auzy> pyrrhic, Wine performs better.. VMware and Virtualbox might work for games though, if they don't require much performance
[10:00] <Kalidarn> if you want it the best idea is to use a VM because you'll want multiple versions of IE
[10:00] <AdvoWork> how can i get a copy of the sources.list for an old installation, will it be on the dvd?
[10:00] <Kalidarn> ie 7, 8, 9 assuming you do web dev work
[10:00] <Auzy> But, does Wine actually use Trident?? I know it does some stuff with Gecko..
[10:00] <WarOfTheNerd> Kalidarn, Wine is better for that
[10:00] <Kalidarn> yeah afaik it doesn't work properly with ie9 though
[10:00] <Kalidarn> least not the interface
[10:00] <Auzy> I disagree with Wine.. Wine wont render things the same way as Windows either....
[10:00] <Kalidarn> i remember there was ies4linux package around
[10:01] <Kalidarn> Auzy: exactly
[10:01] <WarOfTheNerd> IE9 won't ever work so long as Wine works in userspace
[10:01] <Kalidarn> thats why i'd use a VM
[10:01] <WarOfTheNerd> because IE9 relies on kernel-level features Linux lacks
[10:01] <Kalidarn> and you can't have multiple versions of IE
[10:01] <WarOfTheNerd> Wine lets you have multiple versions of IE
[10:01] <Kalidarn> yeah i mean in a windows vm :P
[10:01] <Kalidarn> which sucks
[10:01] <Auzy> Umm.. I think he was trolling anyway.. Who walks in and says "IE is the best browser"?
[10:02] <WarOfTheNerd> Auzy, there are benefits to IE
[10:02] <Kalidarn> lol the first comment was a troll
[10:02] <TJ-> AdvoWork: Is this any help to you? http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php
[10:02] <WarOfTheNerd> The pop-up blocker is superior
[10:02] <Auzy> I bet most of Microsoft wouldn't...
[10:02] <Kalidarn> (repeating himself using exclamation marks) etc
[10:02] <WarOfTheNerd> in addition to that InPrivate is superior to the competition
[10:02] <WarOfTheNerd> and also SmartScreen is more comprehensive than the competition
[10:02] <TJ-> AdvoWork: That link should be to the home page: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[10:02] <Kalidarn> WarOfTheNerd: adblock plus and noscript are superior ;)
[10:03] <WarOfTheNerd> oh and it sandboxes just like Chrome if you use IE9
[10:03] <Kalidarn> or notscripts if you're on chrome
[10:03] <emph> Problem: I'm trying to install a program, I extracted the .tar.bz2 and now it's in a folder. I get to the folder using the terminal (with cd), then according to instructions I'm using to install it, I have to type "./configure" but when I do it displays "the file or directory doesn't exist". What's wrong?
[10:03] <Auzy> *cough offtopic*
[10:03] <doc_willis> emph:  look in the directory as to what files are there
[10:03] <Ben64> emph: what program? where did you get the tar?
[10:04] <TJ-> emph: You need to 'cd' into the directory the source-code was extracted to. Use "ls" to list what's in the current directory
[10:04] <emph> Ben64: The Red Eclipse videogame, since the repository file isn't updated I had to download it from the official site
[10:04] <Auzy> emph, Are you in the folder? And yes.. What program.. You might not even need to compile it
[10:04] <doc_willis> emph:  'compiling' is a different task then just 'installing' also
[10:04] <Auzy> Even if you do need to compile it, you might need extra dependencies..
[10:05] <Auzy> apt-get install build-essential for starters..
[10:05] <Faek> So i was told to come here for a bad time?
[10:05] <emph> TJ-:  bin bin64 data doc readme.txt redeclipse.sh server.sh src
[10:05] <doc_willis> Faek:  you have a ubuntu support question?
[10:06] <TJ-> emph: If it needs other packages as depencies, and there's an existing (but out of date) package, you can usually get all the required build dependencies using "sudo apt-get build-dep <package-name>" . There may be additional build-deps required by the newer package; ./configure will tell you what is missing if so
[10:06] <emph> doc_willis: I'm within the extracted direcotry
[10:06] <doc_willis> emph:  id start with reading the readme.txt
[10:06] <doc_willis> looks like its compiled to me..
[10:07] <emph> doc_willis: How am I supposed to execute it then
[10:07] <Faek> Yeah just wondering how suitable Ubuntu would be when I have to use red hat elsewhere
[10:07] <TJ-> emph: That looks like the tar.gz included the 64-bit and 32-bit executables. I'd guess that "./redeclipse.sh" will start it correctly, if you've made that file executable
[10:07] <doc_willis> emph:  the .sh files are what you run....
[10:07] <AdvoWork> TJ-, that would have been perfect but i need it for 6.06 dont ask.. trying to test something
[10:07] <gordonjcp> Faek: it's all just Linux
[10:07] <doc_willis> emph:  id start with reading the readme.txt
[10:07] <TJ-> AdvoWork: Hang on... I may have one lying around in my archives
[10:07] <Auzy> Faek, Depends on the applications..
[10:07] <gordonjcp> Faek: they're all pretty much the same
[10:08] <emph> TJ-: Problem: I'm trying to install a program, I extracted the .tar.bz2 and now it's in a folder. I get to the folder using the terminal (with cd), then according to instructions I'm using to install it, I have to type "./configure" but when I do it displays "the file or directory doesn't exist". What's wrong?
[10:08] <emph> TJ-: Oops, wrong paste, sorry
[10:08] <emph> TJ-: root@emph-VGN-NS11S-S:/home/emph/redeclipse# ./redeclipse.sh
[10:08] <emph> /home/emph/redeclipse/bin/reclient_linux: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:08] <doc_willis> emph:  there is no 'configure' your directions are wrong
 emph:  id start with reading the readme.txt
[10:08] <Faek> Thanks
[10:08] <emph> doc_willis: They were generic instructions found on some random website, so okay
[10:08] <doc_willis> !info libsdl_image
[10:09] <emph> Ben64: How can I open it within the terminal? (The readme)
[10:09] <doc_willis> emph:  its allready compiled.. you install the libs it needs and run it.
[10:09] <Ben64> emph: vi, vim, nano, more, less, cat
[10:09] <TJ-> emph: You need to pay attention to the instructions that came with the download, and/or refer to the source site.
[10:09] <emph> TJ-: Alright, sorry, I'm a newbie
[10:10] <Ben64> !info libsdl-image1.2
[10:10] <emph> Ben64: The readme doesn't indicate how to install it
[10:10] <emph> doc_willis: How do I know which libraries it needs, and where do I get them?
[10:10] <doc_willis> just run it..... no need to 'install'
[10:10] <Ben64> emph: then try "sudo apt-get install libsdl-image1.2"
[10:11] <emph> Ben64: Ok, on it
[10:11] <doc_willis> emph:  look at erroe messages.. use the apt packager tools
[10:12] <TJ-> AdvoWork: You can use this as the basis, but if you want to actually pull from the archives, you'll need to change the URLs to point to "http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/" instead.   http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#Repositories
[10:12] <doc_willis> this is why using pre-compiled binaries  from websites/archives is not commonplace in linusx.
[10:12] <emph> Ben64: Done, what now?
[10:12] <Ben64> doc_willis: for games it kind of has to be
[10:12] <Ben64> emph: then try running it again
[10:12] <doc_willis> ive seen very few games that do it. ;)
[10:13] <Ben64> all the humblebundle stuff is like that
[10:13] <emph> Ben64: I used ./redeclipse.sh to open it, and:
[10:13] <doc_willis> most i see are a single exe you run and then it installs
[10:13] <AdvoWork> TJ-, well what ive done is exactly that, so i've got all the old stuff I need, but I need to install a C Compiler,  and I cant find out how to install one, I tried: sudo apt-get install build-essential but it says it can't find it, so thats where i'm at, i was thinking of changing it back to the normal sources.list but no luck, any ideas?
[10:13] <emph> Ben64: root@emph-VGN-NS11S-S:/home/emph/redeclipse# ./redeclipse.sh
[10:13] <emph> /home/emph/redeclipse/bin/reclient_linux: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_mixer-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:13] <foobArrr> I'm using a USB KVM switch, one of the connected PCs runs Ubuntu. Sometimes when I switch to the Ubuntu PC, keyboard and mouse don't respond and dmesg is flooded with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1167055/ . any ideas?
[10:14] <Ben64> emph: then repeat the other step, but with "mixer" instead of "image", then try again
[10:14] <doc_willis> emph:  you will most likely need most of the libSDL packages
[10:14] <TJ-> AdvoWork: Ahhh! OK, you need the gcc packages. You can 'cheat' by checking the archive server's package lists and even if you want to, manually fetching the debs from it
[10:15] <micah_> help!
[10:15] <doc_willis> !details > micah_
[10:15] <Walther> !ask
[10:15] <micah_> my external hard drive with thousands of hours of music and videos randomly wont mount or plug in or whatever now
[10:15] <micah_> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[10:15] <micah_> mount: only root can mount /dev/sdb1 on /media/Elements
[10:15] <micah_> wtf is that
[10:16] <doc_willis> mount it by hand and see if it works.
[10:16] <sergiuff> MAN, YOUR HDD IS BURNED OFF
[10:16] <AdvoWork> TJ-, i tried getting libc6-dev_2.3.6....deb  and it said:  Error dependency is not satisfiable linux-kernel-headers :S
[10:16] <doc_willis> !mount > micah_
[10:16] <micah_> im new idk how to do that
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> micah_  type sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/Elements     you need your password
[10:16] <TJ-> AdvoWork: Are you using the original kernel, too?
[10:17] <micah_> does anyone know what that problem is?
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> micah_  it's normal, mount needs the password
[10:17] <AdvoWork> TJ-, as far as I know yeah
[10:17] <emph> Ben64: It worked, thank you very much!
[10:17] <micah_> how do I give it my log in password?
[10:17] <doc_willis> micah_:  mount command may give some error info
[10:18] <doc_willis> sudo will ask for your password...
[10:18] <micah_> Im in my terminal
[10:18] <emph> Ben64: How can I put it in my sidebar as a permanent icon, though? Using the Ubuntu Program Center that was automatic
[10:18] <micah_> idk how to mount it
[10:18] <TJ-> micah_: You've previously manually created the /media/Elements directory and so the user automounter can't use that directory. You can delete that directory (if it is empty)
[10:18] <micah_> how do I delete it lol idk how i even created it
[10:18] <doc_willis> micah_: you were given the command just moments ago
[10:18] <Ben64> emph: i don't use unity, not sure how to add stuff to it
[10:18] <micah_> and elements is the name of the hard drive
[10:19] <micah_> said !mount event not found
[10:19] <TJ-> micah_: Check if it exists first, and then check which user owns it and what the permissions are
[10:19] <emph> Ben64: Alright
[10:19] <TJ-> micah_: "ls -l /media/Elements"
[10:19] <micah_> im the only user
[10:19] <micah_> kk
[10:19] <doc_willis> micah_:  read what the bot says...   !foo is a bot trigger
[10:19] <micah_> says total 0
[10:19] <TJ-> micah_: No, you're not. Linux has *lots* of user accounts for system services, and for the super-user (root)
[10:20] <micah_> oh im just on the one i created
[10:20] <micah_> total 0 was the output though
[10:20] <emph> How can I add a program I installed to the Unity sidebar, as a permanent icon?
[10:21] <doc_willis> emph:  you dident really install that game.. you can make a launcher for it. and  add the launceher to your menus/sidebar
[10:21] <TJ-> micah_: If it doesn't exist, then the error is because the file-system on the external device is EXT3/4 and that is owned by root. Therefore, as MonkeyDust said, you'll ned to use "sudo..." to mount it
[10:21] <emph> doc_willis: Oh, I see... how can I make an installer of it?
[10:21] <micah_> how do I use sudo to mount it?
[10:21] <doc_willis> emph:  the askubuntu.com site has some info on making your own .desktop file for custome games
[10:22] <doc_willis> emph:  its NOT an installer. you just run it from that games directory...
[10:22] <AdvoWork> TJ-, im in old releases of packages, but don't see individual deb files, or isnt that what you mean?
[10:23] <micah_> How do i use sudo to mount my external, is there a command?
[10:23] <doc_willis> !mount | micah_
[10:23] <emph> doc_willis: I don't really want it in the desktop, just at the sidebar of Unity, how can I create an installer? (Or where can I learn that?)
[10:23] <micah_> cant click that link
[10:24] <micah_> or copy it
[10:24] <TJ-> AdvoWork: Archive servers are just web-servers with a particular directory structure. To get to the packages themselves you navigate to /ubuntu/pool/
[10:24] <doc_willis> in the desktop? you put the game dir whever you want then make a proper gamename.desktop file to launch that script
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> micah_  type sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/Elements     you need your password
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> that is the command
[10:25] <TJ-> AdvoWork: But, I'd concentrate and making sure apt-get can do it as it ought to. If it can't you've got deeper troubles. check the sources.list make 100% sure there are no subtle typos
[10:25] <micah_> monkeyDust: it said mount: can't find /dev/sdbi/media/Elements in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:26] <doc_willis> i is not a 1 micah_
[10:26] <micah_> oh crap!~
[10:26] <x61> good morning. i got a serious problem with my window manager/login manager/X, after a usual reboot my login manager doesnt start again and i can only log in on the console after killing die invisible X server and type startx to get a desktop without window decorations
[10:26] <x61> maybe anyone can help investigating this strange behaviour
[10:26] <TJ-> micah_: You need to separate the program's parameters with spaces, too "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/Elements"
[10:26] <emph> doc_willis: The problem isn't what, but how
[10:27] <doc_willis> emph:  how what?
[10:27] <emph> doc_willis: How to create a launcher...
[10:27] <AdvoWork> TJ-, all i did was take an original sources.list and did a find replace for the old-releases, i've installed other stuff using sudo apt-get install :S
[10:27] <micah_> wow some giant error!
[10:28] <TJ-> AdvoWork: Does your sources.list have the dapper-updates and dapper-security enabled too?
[10:28] <doc_willis> emph:  by creating a 'gamename.desktop' file..
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> micah_  that's called 'learning', trial and error :)
[10:28] <micah_> TJ: says this ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error
[10:28] <micah_> Failed to read NTFS $Bitmap: Input/output error
[10:28] <micah_> NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
[10:28] <micah_> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
[10:28] <micah_> then reboot into Windows twice. The usage of the /f parameter is very
[10:28] <micah_> important! If the device is a SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first activate
[10:28] <FloodBot1> micah_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:28] <doc_willis> emph:  with the right info to run the game.  every app normmalt had such a file on the system
[10:29] <TJ-> micah_: There's your answer... a bad NTFS
[10:29] <x61> join #ubuntuusers
[10:29] <doc_willis> askubuntu.com  had some detailed guides on creating custom launcher/desktop files
[10:29] <x61> #join ubuntuusers
[10:29] <emph> doc_willis: Ok...
[10:29]  * TJ- hands x61 a /
[10:29] <micah_> whaat
[10:30] <micah_> how do I fix the NTFS and what is it?
[10:30] <doc_willis> micah_:  follow the directions it gave.. let windows check it for errors
[10:30]  * TJ- goes back to bed :)
[10:30] <micah_> but I dont have windows on here anymore
[10:30] <micah_> this is a dell with ubuntu
[10:30] <micah_> how do I let it check it?
[10:30] <doc_willis> plug it into a windows m achine...
[10:31] <micah_> I dont have a windows I only have this computer
[10:31] <doc_willis> guess you find one, or a windows live cd..
[10:31] <micah_> so i have to get a windows computer and plug my external into it?
[10:31] <pyrrhic> Doc_willis, know anything about vbox?
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> micah_  type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste the url here in the channel
[10:31] <micah_> in my channel?
[10:32] <doc_willis> pyrrhic:  i test  live cds in it. is about all i do
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> micah_  no, here, in #ubuntu
[10:32] <pyrrhic> doc_willis, perfect. I have the latest version and don't know how to get vbox to read my actual cd/dvd drive
[10:32] <Ben64> micah_: after you run chkdsk on it, you should back up the info and change the filesystem to something more linux friendly
[10:32] <AdvoWork> TJ-, yeah those lines are uncommented. I try and install build-essential, it says it needs libc6-dev, i try and run the deb of that and thats when it says about the kernel problem
[10:32] <micah_> Im so confused Im very nooby at ubuntu
[10:32] <TJ-> AdvoWork: do you do "apt-get install libc6-dev" ?
[10:33] <doc_willis> pyrrhic:  it has menu items in the setting/wizard to add the real cd ad a device i belive
[10:33] <doc_willis> pyrrhic:  i only use iso files wiht it. not the real cd
[10:33] <karthick87> How to install latest version flash player in firefox 3.6 ?? Can anyone help me pls ??
[10:33] <pyrrhic> doc_willis: yeah im trying to use actual cds
[10:33] <Ben64> karthick87: upgrade your firefox
[10:34] <micah_>  MonkeyDust: I cant copy that command
[10:34] <TJ-> micah_: All computers store their files in a 'file-system'. There are lots of different file-systems for different purposes or operating systems. MS Windows primarily uses NTFS. Linux uses other file-systems. When an NTFS file-system fails the best and safest tools for fixing it are on Windows.
[10:34] <AdvoWork> TJ-, i tried from a .deb i found, if i do it via sudo apt-get install libc6-dev it says: the following packages have unmet dependencies: libc6-dev: depeneds linux-kernel-headers (>=<IP_ADDRESS>.0) but it says its not installable
[10:34] <pyrrhic> doc_willis: got it
[10:35] <micah_> MonkeyDust; the output was "The program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[10:35] <micah_> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[10:35] <micah_> "
[10:35] <TJ-> AdvoWork: I suggest we fix that error then! If you can't do it trivially there I can always set up a chroot or VM here to test against.
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> micah_  ok, follow the instructions
[10:35] <AdvoWork> TJ-, ok thanks, so the error is about the linux-kernel-headers then?
[10:35] <karthick87> Ben64: Our software will work only in version 3.6..
[10:36] <micah_> kk
[10:36] <micah_> logged into root
[10:36] <micah_> downloaded pastebin
[10:36] <TJ-> AdvoWork: correct, and we can check what's available by starting in http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/
[10:36] <micah_> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1185482/
[10:36] <Ben64> karthick87: then upgrade your software
[10:38] <TJ-> AdvoWork: The headers are here http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-kernel-headers/
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> micah_  neat, now first read that and get familiar with it // your external disk in NTFS format
[10:39] <micah_> MonkeyDust: kk the external says its Disk /dev/sdb the 2 TB one
[10:40] <micah_> MonkeyDust: what is the device boot start thing for the external?
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> micah_  the device name is /dev/sdb1   that's what's of importance there
[10:42] <micah_> okay gotcha
[10:42] <micah_> will I use that to mount it?
[10:45] <BuGGy> Hi can any one help i cant open a gui window when Im Root, i get an error (gksudo:6966): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 i have googled and tryed a few things so the system is no longer clean :-!
[10:45] <ThinkT510> BuGGy: you are not meant to be root
[10:46] <doc_willis> BuGGy:  what are you doing exactly..
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> micah_  yes, like said before    sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/External
[10:46] <BuGGy> ThinkT510: The app im using whants root to work correctly
[10:46] <gordonjcp> BuGGy: What exactly are you trying to do?
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> micah_  make sure /media/External exists
[10:46] <ThinkT510> BuGGy: then launch it from your user with gksudo
[10:47] <hfic> why wouldn't this work? sudo mv -f *.mp3* /media/blah/music/single.mp3s .. It keeps getting me it can't move into itself,
[10:47] <micah_> its /media/Elements and its plugged in it wont mount it thought idk if it recognizes it
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> hfic  it's [from] [to]   there's no [to] in taht command
[10:47] <micah_> MonkeyDust: it just says "ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error
[10:47] <micah_> Failed to read NTFS $Bitmap: Input/output error
[10:47] <micah_> NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
[10:47] <micah_> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
[10:47] <micah_> then reboot into Windows twice. The usage of the /f parameter is very
[10:47] <micah_> important! If the device is a SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first activate
[10:47] <FloodBot1> micah_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> micah_  looks like the external drive is corrupt
[10:48] <doc_willis> micah_:  if the disk is bad.. you should use windows to check it........
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> micah_  something's wrong with the hardware
[10:49] <micah_> MonkeyDust: can that just randomly happen? I just plugged it in today and it had errors
[10:49] <micah_> shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
[10:49] <micah_> can I get my stuff off of it
[10:49] <hfic> MonkeyDust, [from] is the directory I'm in. I want to mv all files ending in .mp3 into /media/blah/music/single.mp3s
[10:49] <TJ-> micah_: Check the kernel log there may be disk errors: Start "Log file viewer" and open "/var/log/kern.log" . go to the end of the log and look at recent entries at the time the disk is trying to be accessed
[10:49] <micah_> I have over a TB of movies and music
[10:49] <doc_willis> micah_:  so? the fact remains...
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> hfic  then use . to specify the folder you're in
[10:49] <doc_willis> micah_:  if the disk is bad.. you should use windows to check it........
[10:49] <BuGGy> ThinkT510: I have tried that, but heres what it says "''/home/thami/.Xauthority' to '/tmp/libgksu-v8K0ym': Permission deniedthami@none:~$
[10:50] <ThinkT510> BuGGy: what app?
[10:50] <BuGGy> wireshark
[10:50] <AdvoWork> TJ-, does that mean I need to download one of those debs or?
[10:50] <ThinkT510> BuGGy: i can't help you
[10:50] <micah_> TJ: how do I open "/var/log/kern.log"?
[10:50] <BuGGy> OK thanks
[10:50] <TJ-> AdvoWork: Well that may solve it. But it is strange that apt-get isn't finding those seeing as we can see they are there. I suppose you've done an "apt-get update" ? :p
[10:51] <TJ-> micah_: I just told you!
[10:51] <hfic> MonkeyDust, sudo mv -f *.mp3* ./music /media/blah/music/single.mp3s ?
[10:51] <micah_> Im in file viewer
[10:51] <micah_> its all random lines of information
[10:51] <AdvoWork> TJ-, yeah done apt get update. What header do i need, theres loads lol
[10:51] <ThinkT510> AdvoWork: why are you installing debs manually?
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> hfic  a space between . and the rest
[10:51] <tomas__> AHJ
[10:51] <TJ-> micah_: use the 'log file viewer' from the dash, then do File > Open and choose the file "/var/log/kern.log"
[10:52] <TJ-> AdvoWork: The error message said what it was expecting, so I'd go for that one
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> hfic  just a .    not with 'music' following
[10:52] <TJ-> AdvoWork: I'm guessing linux-kernel-headers_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu13_i386.deb
[10:53] <TJ-> AdvoWork: obviously, correct that for the architecture you're using
[10:53] <micah_> TJ: okay im in kern.log
[10:53] <hfic> MonkeyDust, entbox@boc1://media/xblk.share/music$ sudo mv -f *.mp3* . single.mp3s/
[10:53] <penns> I'm having trouble with multiple monitors. I can only use my nVidia card, or only use my ATI card. In Windows, I can use both at the same time with no hassle. Can I use both in Ubuntu?
[10:53] <hfic> MonkeyDust, mv: cannot move `single.mp3s' to a subdirectory of itself, `single.mp3s/single.mp3s'
[10:53] <ThinkT510> penns: not really no
[10:54] <micah_> TJ: it says "Buffer I/O error on device sdb1, logical block<PHONE_NUMBER>"
[10:54] <TJ-> micah_: OK, now, try to mount the device again. Then look at the end of the log-file and you *may* see some messages relating to that disk that indicate some sort of failure. If there aren't any lines added reporting a problem, that would suggest the disk itself os OK
[10:54] <TJ-> micah_: Aha! OK, that's a hardware error. How is the device connected? is it via USB?
[10:55] <onlylove> 	I tried to dial with a zte mf100 usb modem , but I only got Sep 4 04:24:07 localhost pppd[3900]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
[10:55] <penns> thanks, ThinkT510. Back to Windows, I guess
[10:55] <awillson> Does anybody know of a tutorial on how I'd go about upgrading a single package from source, Thunar in this case, so that when the next update for it comes officially the updater wouldn't either miss it or throw a fit?
[10:55] <TJ-> micah_: There is a possibility it could be a temporary problem caused by a bad connection or insufficient power on the connection.
[10:55] <micah_> Tj:Yes its through USB, that is just the last line immediately when i do the mount code it has like 20 lines should I post themf or you?
[10:56] <hfic> penns, why on earth would you use 2 different cards from 2 different manufacturers in the same setup?
[10:56] <TJ-> micah_: Copy them to a pastebin for us
[10:56] <TJ-> !pastebin | micah_
[10:56] <TJ-> hfic: Why not!?!
[10:56] <jrib> awillson: do a "dch -i" before building the package and append something like "~awillson1" to the end of the version
[10:57] <quiescens> mm, getting setmentation fault from Xorg recently, fun
[10:57] <micah_> !pastebin
[10:57] <hfic> TJ-, idk .. architecture for 1 .. cooling for another .. wattage for another?
[10:57] <micah_> TJ:wait how do I send it to pastebin?
[10:57] <hfic> micah_, pastebin.com
[10:57] <penns> hfic: despite how irrelevant that is, I'll answer it: I have 2 different cards from 2 manufacturers, and 2 monitors + a TV, and they can all be plugged in at the same time if I use both.
[10:57] <TJ-> hfic: It's a common requirement for those of us using multi-monitor multi-GPU setups
[10:58] <micah_> TJ: http://pastebin.com/DcmaP8Ai
[10:58] <penns> hfic: I don't suppose that will help you help me....
[10:58] <TJ-> micah_: You select the lines you want in "Log File Viewer" and copy them to the clipboard. Then you paste those via the web browser into the pastebin web-site, and give us the URL of the resulting pastebin
[10:58] <micah_> TJ: its 35 lines of errors lol
[10:59] <hfic> penns, despite how irrelevant? .. Even If I did have the answers. Turning my question into something with an answer that bites .. I'd keep my information.
[10:59] <awillson> thank you jrib, reading up on that now
[10:59] <micah_> TJ: I did its "http://pastebin.com/DcmaP8Ai"
[10:59] <TJ-> micah_: Thanks; that makes it clear you've got a hardware problem. If you're lucky it's caused by a low power condition and you may be able to resolve it
[10:59] <penns> hfic: you are very rude and you should feel bad
[11:00] <micah_> TJ: crap so should I try a different outlet or something?
[11:00] <jrib> awillson: I don't know how far you are, but you may want to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate too
[11:00] <AdvoWork> TJ-, ok, headers installed fine, i installed libc6-dev fine. i tried build essential (via sudo apt get update = failed, but ran from .deb, failed with Error: Dependency is not satisfiable, gcc, so do I just need gcc? but i thought that was part of build essentals?
[11:00] <ThinkT510> penns: you can bug the manufacturers to better support linux
[11:01] <TJ-> micah_: As its a USB connection, the best thing to try first is to connect to one of the primary USB2 ports on the PC. If it's a desktop system that means the ports at the back. If it's a laptop, it means the ports on the side (not connected via a USB hub). Also, ensure the USB caddy is externally powered
[11:01] <micah_> TJ:ahh okay let me try the ones in the back
[11:01] <TJ-> AdvoWork: Dapper is so old I can't remember what build-essentials depends on.
[11:02] <ThinkT510> AdvoWork: what on earth are you trying to do?
[11:02] <micah_> TJ:getting the same error
[11:02] <TJ-> AdvoWork: but yes, it looks as if you've got to do apt-get's job manually :s
[11:02] <micah_> TJ: whats a usb caddy ?
[11:03] <TJ-> micah_: Is the external drive powered by an external power source?
[11:03] <ThinkT510> micah_: caddy = enclosure/case
[11:03] <micah_> TJ:yes its plugged into a power strip
[11:03] <micah_> TJ:the light on the external is on so it should be having plenty of power
[11:03] <jrib> AdvoWork: dapper isn't supported anymore, why not upgrade?
[11:03] <micah_> TJ:and its spinning inside as usual
[11:04] <TJ-> micah_: OK... well, assuming that the external power source is *actually working* it appears that the disk has developed a low-level fault meaning it can't read physical parts of the disk platters. It also seems like important file-system information was stored at those locations, which is why you're seeing the problems.
[11:05] <micah_> TJ:so how do I fix that? will all my files be gone?
[11:05] <TJ-> micah_: It may be possible to recover the data but it is a very involved and complicated process - depending on the extent of the failure - and needs someone with plenty of experience of recovery to do it.
[11:06] <_raven_> which tool is able to run skype-text messages (only textchat, NO voip)
[11:07] <TJ-> micah_: Most disks have an internal monitoring ability that the OS can check called SMART. It may be possible to use the Ubuntu smartmon tools to check if the disk knows it has a problem, which would indicate how serious it is, and if it is recoverable as a working disk
[11:07] <micah_> TJ:how do I use the smartmon tool to check this?
[11:08] <Sidewinder1> micah_, In Disk Utility
[11:08] <TJ-> Sidewinder1: thanks. micah_ As Sidewinder said
[11:09] <micah_> TJ: I have to download it from ubuntu software center real quick
[11:09] <micah_> TJ: they had 2 different ones
[11:09] <Sidewinder1> It'll diagnose; not sure how many "fix-it", tools are there.
[11:10] <TJ-> Sidewinder1: If SMART shows failures its pretty serious I think - certainly more than a novice user will want to deal with
[11:10] <micah_> TJ-:the things I just downloaded isnt showing up at the dash home
[11:10] <Sidewinder1> TJ, No question. As always, back-ups are the answer.
[11:11] <fidel> in case of smart-errors - consider doing a last backup and think about replacing the disk if the data is somehow important ;)
[11:11] <TJ-> Sidewinder1: micah_:  If the disk shows failures I'd be getting a 2nd identical or larger drive, and then using a recovery tool such as "photorec" to do a while-disk recovery of all the files it can find, to the new drive
[11:11] <TJ-> micah_: In the dash "disk utility"
[11:12] <Sidewinder1> TJ, There is also "Testdisk"< use for data recovery.
[11:12] <Sachin__> Are there any alternatives for Access Control Lists for granting secure filesystem access?
[11:12] <TJ-> Sidewinder1: Often though, most users don't realise for large media files they need a set of mirrored drives to be safe
[11:12] <micah_> TJ: i did check file system and it says its not clean
[11:12] <TJ-> micah_: File-system is a high-level thing. What we want to know is the low-level status
[11:13] <tiredbones> I'm getting ready to install ubuntu 12.0 and microsoft. Which one should be installed first?
[11:13] <fidel> tiredbones: ms then ubuntu
[11:13] <micah_> TJ-: just used the smart check thing
[11:13] <Sidewinder1> TJ, Like 6 external eSATA, TB drives? ;-)
[11:13] <Sachin__> Are there any alternatives for Access Control Lists for granting secure filesystem access?
[11:13] <micah_> TJ:SMART data
[11:13] <TJ-> micah_: In other words, a file-system is just a way of organising data on a disk. That can be corrupted but it doesn't damage the disk itself. We want to know if the disk physically believes it has failures
[11:14] <TJ-> micah_: What did it report?
[11:14] <tiredbones> fidel ,  what is a good size for the partition for ms?
[11:14] <micah_> TJ: oh Im running self test now didnt know i had to click that it might be different
[11:14] <fidel> tiredbones: might depend on what you plan to do
[11:14] <_raven_> which tool is able to run skype-text messages (only textchat, NO voip)
[11:14] <fidel> tiredbones: and the windows-version
[11:15] <TJ-> micah_: If the disk believes it is healthy, this could be a fault with the USB-to-SATA interface inside the drive enclosure. I've had that happen to me multiple times
[11:15] <micah_> TJ:should I do the short test or long test?
[11:15] <TJ-> micah_: Short will do for now
[11:15] <fidel> tiredbones: there is no general 'answer on that' while windows 7 should at least have 15 gb if you plan to install at least some SW and patches afterwards
[11:15] <micah_> TJ:kk its almost done
[11:15] <fidel> more is welcome for sure
[11:15] <mumba> icq meme combat
[11:15] <fidel> tiredbones: apart from that -> #windows
[11:16] <fidel> !en > mumba
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> _raven_  you mean skype in a terminal ?
[11:16] <tiredbones> fidel ,  window-version is 7 and I want to teach myself ms.
[11:16] <mumba> sry miss my chan
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> tiredbones  better ask in #windows
[11:17] <tiredbones> ok
[11:17] <fidel> tiredbones: as this is an ubuntu channel - consider asking windows stuff in #windows or ##windows
[11:17] <micah_> TJ it says 134 bad sectors, disk has a few bad sectors idk what that means and it says a lot more in the attributes
[11:18] <fidel> ups - way to late
[11:18] <TJ-> micah_: Does it report the overall SMART status as healthy or something else?
[11:18] <ThinkT510> micah_: sounds like your disk is dying, backup what you need
[11:19] <micah_> TJ:says self assessment passed but "Overall Asessment: disk has a few bad sectors
[11:19] <Braden`> Hello
[11:19] <Braden`> Sep  4 19:16:40 caspar kernel: [4600061.721979] type=1400 audit(1346757400.483:98): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" name="/usr/sbin/mysqld" pid=10257 comm="apparmor_parser" <-- I am getting that whenever I try to launch mysql
[11:19] <gordonjcp> micah_: what it means is, you get to go to the computer shop this afternoon
[11:19] <TJ-> micah_: Disks are designed to tolerate a few bad sectors and they reserve spare sectors to be used to replace bad sectors. But if too many sectors are going bad the disk runs out of spares... and as ThinkT510 says, it's probably time to get a new disk and try to recover as much as possible
[11:19] <micah_> TJ:and says temperature is 124 F, idk
[11:20] <micah_> TJ:if I cant even have it show up on my computer how can I transfer my files
[11:20] <micah_> TJ:lol and its only 1.2 years old is that normal for them to crap out?
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> micah_  there's a hardware problem, errors, struggling disk (which makes it heat up)
[11:21] <TJ-> micah_: Mounting a file-system is not the same thing as the OS seeing the drive. the OS sees it as /dev/sdb . You can use recovery tools to scan the physical device /dev/sdb and recovery as much as it can (I suggested earlier you'd use "photorec" for that)
[11:21] <Sachin__> Are there any alternatives for Access Control Lists for granting secure filesystem access?
[11:21] <micah_> TJ:okay thanks Ill get that, I just dont have nearly enough space on my computer to put much on it from the drive
[11:22] <micah_> Tj:how would I transfer it all at once to another external?
[11:22] <AdvoWork> TJ-, so will i need to get gcc manually?  ThinkT510, jrib  i need to migrate a peice of old unused software, so i need to replicate an old server that has been unused for years, which has dapper on..
[11:22] <TJ-> micah_: Not unusual. If you're storing important data, you'd be best off using multiple disk-drives configured as a mirror array at a minimum. That ensures that at least 2 drives both have copies of everything
[11:22] <micah_> TJ:this is like over a TB of files idk how to do that or where I would have room for it all
[11:22] <jrib> AdvoWork: where's your pastebin with the issues apt-get is giving you?
[11:22] <ThinkT510> AdvoWork: old unused software? why the need to migrate it?
[11:22] <TJ-> AdvoWork: It looks that way it seems For the situ you're in it doesn't make sense to waste time fixing apt-get if you can install the packages manually
[11:23] <Sidewinder1> micah_, If it were me, with irreplaceable data, I would: buy a drive at least twice the capacity of the failing drive; create 2 partitions on the new one; back-up to one partition; using windows di chkdsk /f; at least twice; then back-up again to the second partition of the new disk.
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> Sachin__  ubuntu server?
[11:23] <AdvoWork> TJ-, i tried installing build-essential manually though, or do you mean to install gcc manually
[11:23] <AdvoWork> jrib, ill sort a pastebin
[11:24] <TJ-> AdvoWork: Yes, install the packages themselves manually. "build-essential" is a virtual package that contains lists of packages that are required for building Debian packages
[11:25] <TJ-> AdvoWork: So I'm guessing that'd be libc6-dev, gcc, g++, make, dpkg-dev
[11:27] <AdvoWork> jrib, http://pastebin.com/4CgW9Pen line 21 is the problem.
[11:27] <jrib> AdvoWork: yes, what's the issue with apt-get?
[11:27] <Sachin__> MonkeyDust:yeah
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> Sachin__  better ask in #ubuntu-server, then
[11:27] <jrib> AdvoWork: clamav is the old unused software you need to migrate?
[11:28] <Sachin__> ok thanks
[11:28] <pyrrhic> Anyone know how to file share between pc and virtualbox?
[11:28] <AdvoWork> TJ-, so go into build-essential, look at the package relationships(which are dpkg-dev, g++, gcc, libc6-dev, make, and install those via the .debs in the pool?
[11:28] <jrib> pyrrhic: #vbox can better help you with that.  It's also documented in the vbox manual (it's in one of the menus)
[11:28] <zorgborg> hi, book bout the terminal says to view what the system is doing in near real time use 'sudo tail -f /var/log/messages' but there is no such file, what is the equivalent these days?
[11:28] <pyrrhic> jrib, ty
[11:29] <ThinkT510> !info clamav | AdvoWork
[11:29] <AdvoWork> jrib, well i tried doing the sudo apt-get install build-essential and it gives: Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package. and no, clamav is just one thing i'm having to manually upgrade(but can't due to the lack of compiler
[11:30] <ThinkT510> AdvoWork: what are you attempting to salvage?
[11:30] <AdvoWork> an old email server
[11:31] <jrib> AdvoWork: I'm confused as to why you are staying on dapper to run clamav.  But ok.  « cat /etc/apt/sources.list; sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy build-essential && sudo apt-get install build-essential »
[11:31] <ThinkT510> AdvoWork: so you just need the emails?
[11:31] <_raven_> which tool is able to run skype-text messages (only textchat, NO voip)
[11:31] <ThinkT510> _raven_: i assume only skype, since its their closed protocol
[11:32] <_raven_> ThinkPad but any android tool can also handle it and this has nothing to do with skype
[11:33] <carpup> does anyone know why Chromium is so out-of-date on ubuntu? http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/chromium-browser says its only v18, while wikipedia says v22
[11:33] <ThinkT510> _raven_: my mistake, sorry
[11:33] <omido> Hi.I'm noob.I wanted to know how can i view a list of the ports that i've currently open?
[11:33] <ThinkT510> carpup: no regular maintainer (firefox has a maintainer)
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> omido  lsof -i
[11:34] <ThinkT510> _raven_: if android can do it then it might be jabber for their text
[11:35] <AdvoWork> ThinkPad, i need the whole thing
[11:35] <ThinkT510> AdvoWork: in that case we can't really help you because dapper is no longer supported
[11:36] <carpup> ThinkT510: that's... odd, thanks. wish ubuntu or chromium gave me some sort of alert that I am running a 4-version-old build >_>
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> omido  try netstat -tupl
[11:36] <ThinkT510> AdvoWork: whats wrong with migrating it to a supported release?
[11:37] <fire_> can all the videos can be downloaded from the net ?
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> AdvoWork  is there are rason to use an old release?
[11:37] <fire_> using any of the video downloaders.
[11:38] <fire_> omido: use nmap for that.
[11:39] <fire_> omido: check the nmap site for more info about commands
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> fire_  there's this http://www.tuto-plus.net/2012/07/4k-video-downloader-download-videos.html
[11:39] <omido> Thanks guys
[11:39] <omido> It worked
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> fire_  mind: it's a ppa, not supported here, use at own risk
[11:40] <fire_> MonkeyDust: ok.
[11:40] <AdvoWork> ThinkPad, that version of email only runs on that version of ubuntu, ive checked with the email server creators/support, doing what i'm doing now is unfortunately the only way for stage 1, it will be migrated > later/current version if I can do this first step
[11:41] <ThinkT510> AdvoWork: sounds like a painful process
[11:41] <fire_> MonkeyDust: even can we download commercial videos ?? i am subscribing to a commercial company which provides training videos online. I want to download them. Can i even download the contents if it has strict security restrictions about downloading videos ?
[11:41] <TJ-> AdvoWork: "YES" to your question about installing those packages manually (try apt-get install first; if that fails pull the .debs off old-releases manually)
[11:41] <ThinkT510> AdvoWork: also you keep tab-completing the wrong nick
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> fire_  havent tried it
[11:42] <fire_> MonkeyDust: the demo videos can easily be downloaded by the video downloader
[11:44] <_raven_> any option to use LINHPONE as voicemail client?
[11:46] <fire_> MonkeyDust: ok
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> fire_  apparently you have to pay if you want more than the demos, then
[11:47] <fire_> MonkeyDust: i will pay and get the subscription for 1 months, and will have access to all the videos. So i want to download all the videos to which i will have access.
[11:47] <fire_> bcoz it's impossible to go through all the videos in a month
[11:48] <fire_> i was telling about the demo, bcoz if i can download the demo videos while watching then i can also download full videos.
[11:48] <_raven_> any option to use LINHPONE as voicemail client?
[11:49] <pyrrhic> MonkeyDust, Is gaming realistically possible under vbox?
[11:50] <ThinkT510> pyrrhic: depends what games but i think its still experimental
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> pyrrhic  i'm not a gamer, still in the DOOM stage (1990's) :)
[11:51] <pyrrhic> D00M is Epic.
[11:52] <muindor> hey all
[11:53] <cfhowlett> muindor: greetings
[11:53] <pyrrhic> In my opinion, DOOM has some of the best soundtracks in any game.
[11:54] <fidel> pyrrhic: pretty much offtopic
[11:54] <fidel> !ot > pyrrhic
[11:55] <pyrrhic> fidel: sigh..
[11:55] <muindor> kinda weird, i reinstalled ubuntu on my laptop, version 12.04. now when i connect my iphone it sais "Unable to mount iPhone - Unhandled Lockdown error (-5)". With my old installation this always worked without me installing any extras, was an almost clean install before too
[11:56] <cfhowlett> muindor: "almost clean"?
[11:56] <opieng> my "wine" has stopped installing in Software centre, what can I do?
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> opieng  close software center, open terminal, type   sudo apt-get -f install
[11:57] <fidel> opieng: try to rephrase your problem - what do you mean by 'wine stopped installing' and did you see/get any error output?
[11:57] <fidel> !details > opieng
[11:58] <TJ-> muindor: bug #877440   has some workarounds
[11:58] <muindor> cfhowlett, yes only software i had installed was eclipse
[11:59] <opieng> I have a problem with installing wine I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04, I was installing it in a virtual machine and the virtual machine closed down, when I logged back into  my VM, the wine installation bar in the software centre no longer progresses, I can not see any error messages.
[11:59] <AdvoWork> TJ-, to be expected, i'm going around in circles, any other ways I can install clamav 0.97.5  without compiling it myself? as thats the only thing I think i actually need
[12:00] <TJ-> AdvoWork: Why do you need it? To scan the mailboxes stored in the Dapper system?
[12:01] <TJ-> AdvoWork: If the mailboxes are in maildir style then you could just mount the disk containing the maildirs onto a Precise system and have clamav scan manually across the directories
[12:02] <rochak> hello everybody
[12:03] <funky1_> hi guys, i got some problems, just installed ubuntu 64 bit 12.04 dekstop version, i have a nvidia card GeForce GT 610, installed driver version 304.37, when i want to watch HD videos my video is stuttering, any ideas why?
[12:03] <rochak> Does anyone know is it possible to install xampp outside of /opt folder
[12:03] <jrib> !lamp | rochak
[12:03] <jrib> rochak: use the packages in the repositories, not xampp
[12:03] <ThinkT510> !xampp | rochak
[12:03] <TJ-> funky1: check system log files (/var/log/*) and the ~/.xsession-errors for clues
[12:03] <opieng> Is there any solution for this?
[12:03] <jrib> !helpme | opieng
[12:04] <TJ-> funky1: That ought to be using the VDPAU extensions
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> opieng  close software center, open terminal, type   sudo apt-get -f install
[12:04] <AdvoWork> TJ-, no, it's software sitting on top, which utilises clamav, i had it working, but clamav checks/updates, it did, realised it was old, and broke it
[12:04] <rochak> jrib: I used repositories from another site ie. upubuntu.com
[12:04] <cfhowlett> opieng: sounds like a dpkg lock
[12:04] <AdvoWork> TJ-, so i think i only need the clamav .deb for a later version and i should be good
[12:04] <jrib> rochak: well don't use xampp
[12:04] <jrib> rochak: use the packages in the /official/ repositories
[12:05] <TJ-> AdvoWork: Ahhh... using a later version of the clamav .deb may well not work since it'll have more recent dependencies on core packages
[12:05] <DJones> csdeop DJones
[12:05] <rochak> jrib: but it seems like I need to install php mysql phpmyadmin seperately. is there a single installer
[12:05] <TJ-> AdvoWork: It sounds like getting gcc installed is the answer if you don't want to upset the old system
[12:05] <jrib> rochak: yes.  You can use tasksel.  Read the link
[12:06] <TJ-> AdvoWork: maybe there's an option to clamav to NOT try to update?
[12:06] <rochak> jrib: oks I will now
[12:06] <Auzy> anyone here use Gnome 3 PPA on 12.04?
[12:06] <williamherry> what command can check what file one package contain, like rpm -ql package in redhat
[12:07] <ThinkT510> Auzy: why would you? 12.04 already has gnome3
[12:07] <jrib> williamherry: dpkg -L
[12:07] <Auzy> isn't the default one missing shell extensions and such?
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> Auzy  gnome3 is the default in 12.04, no ppa needed
[12:07] <AdvoWork> TJ-, ive found clamav debs but theres clamav-freshclam, clamav-docs and so on, so i dont know which is correct, trying to install gcc keps saying things werent dependant and so on
[12:07] <ThinkT510> Auzy: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[12:07] <TJ-> AdvoWork: I'm going to try it here in a chroot and see!
[12:08] <markit> hi, what importance has belong to groups dialout,cdrom,plugdev,lpadmin? I've noticed that the "system" user that is created at ubuntu installation belongs to those groups, while if I enter "adduser" new user do not
[12:08] <Auzy> yeah.. But, I thought it was missing shell extensions and a few other things.. Or am I wrong?
[12:08] <TJ-> AdvoWork: I have a dapper i386 chroot... you're using i386 ?
[12:08] <Harlin> Is there a music player for Ubuntu that has channels easily available to it a la winamp?
[12:08] <williamherry> jrib, thanks
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> Harlin  audaciou is very similar to winamp
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> Harlin  audacious is very similar to winamp
[12:09] <Harlin> MonkeyDust, does it have channels available to it? like say a channel that plays a style of music
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> Harlin  i do that with guayadeque
[12:10] <Harlin> hmm ok .. i assume that works together with audacious?
[12:10] <kroonrs> markit: those groups control who has permission to do what on the system
[12:10] <AdvoWork> TJ-, yeah im using i386. I tried to install gcc ,which says it needs gcc-4.0-base but it says i already have a newer version, so I can't remove that without removing loads of stuff
[12:11] <kroonrs> markit: so new users don't have access to mount a cdrom, admin printers, etc.
[12:11] <markit> kroonrs: I supposed, but even if you don't belong to them you can read a cdrom for instance
[12:11] <markit> kroonrs: really? new user can't open a cdrom?
[12:11] <markit> (so nor watch a dvd, I suppose)
[12:11] <funky1_> TJ-: checked syslog no erros and in xsessions-errors i don't think any errors related to my problem, but posted it here: http://pastebin.ca/2200925
[12:11] <funky1_> how to check the VDPAU extensions
[12:11] <funky1_> ?
[12:11] <quiescens> technically, cdrom group is not so much for mounting a cdrom, so much as (usually) for writing a cd/dvd/etc
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> Harlin  no, it's another program
[12:11] <Harlin> ok, it appears guayadeque is its own music player so to speak... thanks much for that MonkeyDust
[12:12] <TJ-> funky1: The place you'd usually see those kind of reports would be /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:12] <markit> quiescens: ah, makes more sense
[12:12] <kroonrs> markit: what normally happens is that the program that mounts the cd runs as a user which may do so
[12:12] <kroonrs> markit: AIUI
[12:12] <kroonrs> markit: so you can only mount the cd through approved programs, for example, but you don't have low level access to write your own programs to do it
[12:12] <kroonrs> markit: (this is a pretty vague explanation, I'm afraid)
[12:13] <TJ-> AdvoWork: If that  system has a newer a version, that must mean you've managed to install packages from a later Ubuntu release. You could uninstall those then install things correctly using apt-get
[12:13] <markit> yep, since don't know how "aproved programs" are aproved / listed / where to configure (I would love to know the insights)
[12:13] <kroonrs> markit: usually if you give a user sudo access, they can do all these things because root is in the groups anyway
[12:13] <Makdaam> hi, how do I disable the "login ready" drums in config files (not in GUI, I don't have System>Preferences)?
[12:13] <AdvoWork> TJ-, the problem is, it said it would remove apt, etc etc, loads of stuff
[12:13] <markit> kroonrs: yep, but the "problem" is that I don't want to give sudo access, but want them to be able to do "normal stuff"
[12:13] <kroonrs> markit: so the bottom line is that the groups are important for the system and its security, but you don't generally need to add users to them individually in general
[12:14] <markit> so no add/remove users or programs, but use whatever is installed
[12:14] <funky1_> TJ-: also there i see no errors related to my problem http://pastebin.ca/2200929
[12:14] <TJ-> AdvoWork: Ahhh... hmmm it sounds like its in a mess (tm)
[12:14] <AdvoWork> TJ-, it is, any other suggestions about getting clamav installed without compiling?
[12:14] <kroonrs> markit: I think your best approach is to create a dummy user, and test its access to see if you're happy with it
[12:15] <TJ-> funky1: It shows it's got VDPAU: "(II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2]   VDPAU driver: nvidia"
[12:15] <quiescens> markit: you might just want to use the gui based user management if available, it should have descriptive checkboxes instead of cryptic group names
[12:15] <TJ-> funky1: Maybe it's something to report to Nvidia via their forums
[12:15] <funky1_> and that means? i'm a little noob to video card stuff
[12:16] <funky1_> there also seem some modules failing to load, could that be anything_
[12:16] <funky1_> ?
[12:16] <TJ-> funky1: I've seen some tearing of video with the new 304 even on the standard Unity desktop and multi-monitors
[12:16] <TJ-> funky1: "nv" and similar, you mean? That's normal. they're no longer shipped.
[12:17] <funky1_> hm, so nothing i can do now?
[12:17] <WeThePeople> anyone here use GLX cario dock?
[12:17] <funky1_> woudl it work in gnome?
[12:18] <TJ-> funky1: It may be an interaction with compiz. You could try the Unity 2D DE
[12:18] <funky1_> will give it a go
[12:18] <funky1_> thanks
[12:19] <nixgeek01> hello, how does magnifying glass work on ubunntu 10.4?
[12:20] <glarey> hi folks
[12:20] <nixgeek01> hello, how does magnifying glass work on ubunntu 10.4?
[12:20] <Googler> hello
[12:20] <nixgeek01> hi
[12:21] <usr13> nixgeek01: Don't know for sure but I think so.  I don't know why it wouldn't.
[12:21] <usr13> nixgeek01: Try it and see.
[12:21] <nixgeek01> what kay are to zoom
[12:21] <markit> kroonrs: quiescens ok, thanks
[12:22] <nixgeek01> keys
[12:22] <Googler> hello guys....im new to this ...can someone explain what this is all about??
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> nixgeek01  in unity, keep the super-key pressed to see the shortcuts
[12:22] <usr13> nixgeek01: I just use xfce
[12:22] <ThinkT510> Googler: this is the ubuntu support channel
[12:22] <funky1> TJ-: unity 2D and same problem, still stuttering HD video
[12:22] <Googler> okay...
[12:22] <nixgeek01> gnome 2
[12:23] <usr13> Googler: #ubuntu-offtopic is for general discussion.  This channel is support, (questions).
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> nixgeek01  what's the outcome of lsb_release -sd ?
[12:24] <nixgeek01> 10.4 ubuntu
[12:24] <nixgeek01> gnome 2
[12:24] <glarey> anyone a clou on 10.04-> 12.04 upgrade troubles? do-release-upgrade failed and left me with kind of a mess http://pastebin.com/QtYEDqRm
[12:24] <usr13> Googler: The folks next door, (in #ubuntu-offtopic), have a lot more freedom.  They entertain general discussion.
[12:25] <Googler> okay...
[12:25] <ThinkT510> glarey: looks like a partial upgrade
[12:25] <cfhowlett> glarey: I generally recommend users do a clean install rather than update. Seems like less hassle.
[12:25] <glarey> ThinkT510: yes, soon after the download the installation aborted
[12:25] <ThinkT510> glarey: did the upgrade get interupted?
[12:25] <glarey> cfhowlett: hehehe :)
[12:25] <ThinkT510> glarey: oh
[12:26] <glarey> ThinkT510: it interrupted itself with fast scrolling list of each and every package it couldnt install
[12:26] <ThinkT510> glarey: i've always fresh installed myself, less things go wrong
[12:27] <glarey> ThinkT510: :)
[12:27] <Maverick_> error: xampp localhost phpmyadmin 2002 access denied
[12:27] <usr13> glarey: What does  lsb_release -r say?
[12:27] <ThinkT510> Maverick_: xampp installs are not supported here
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> !xampp > Maverick_
[12:28] <glarey> usr13: 10.04
[12:28] <Pumpkin-> I'm trying to time a batch process for benchmarking (with /usr/bin/time), and I'm only getting 10ms precision. If I recompile my kernel with a higher HZ value, will I get better results ?
[12:28] <ThinkT510> Maverick_: and if you are using 10.10 that is also no longer supported
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> Maverick_   what's the outcome of lsb_release -sd ?
[12:29] <Queops> !xampp > Queops
[12:29] <usr13> glarey: Download the 12.04.1 alternate CD and upgrade from that, but first, resolve the present issues.
[12:29] <usr13> glarey: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:30] <Googler> can anyone guide me how to apply for GoogleSummerOfCode(GSOC).....!!..im new to all these....
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> Googler this is the ubuntu support channel
[12:30] <glarey> usr13: resolving the present issue is my main issue ;) deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise multiverse main restricted universe
[12:30] <glarey> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise multiverse main restricted universe #Added by software-properties
 but linux foundation also takes part in GSOC
[12:31] <usr13> !paste | glarey
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> Googler  try in the google channel or so
[12:32] <glarey> usr13: thanks for the hint :))
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> Googler  type /join #google
[12:33] <usr13> glarey: I suppose you should rebuild the sources list for lucid insted of precise and do sudo apt-get update
[12:33] <glarey> the good thing is, that libc6 has been upgraded and my installation is still useable :)
[12:34] <glarey> usr13: so you suggest to "downgrade" ?
[12:35] <usr13> glarey: I don't know how far you've gotten, but lsb_release still says 10.04. Right?
[12:35] <glarey> usr13: well, ive gotten as far as libc installation is far regards to a usable working linux installation. i thought that was clear because of my pastebin link.
[12:36] <usr13> glarey: Can you pastebin /var/log/dpkg.log  ?
[12:37] <glarey> usr13: ok, the luxid thingy, i aint gonna do that :)   e2fsprogs util-linux (due to e2fsprogs) hostname upstart (due to hostname)
[12:37] <usr13> What?
[12:37] <glarey> usr13: the lucid "downgrade" leads to allmost every package beeing removed. i cant do that :)
[12:38] <usr13> glarey: Ok.
[12:38] <MaDCaTz> anyone from amsterdam here?
[12:38] <ThinkT510> MaDCaTz: this is a support channel
[12:38] <Googler> monkeydust thankyou:)
[12:38] <usr13> glarey: One minute....
[12:38] <MaDCaTz> I need support in amsterdam
[12:38] <ThinkT510> MaDCaTz: why does it matter where you are?
[12:39] <MaDCaTz> for a paid job
[12:39] <Pici> MaDCaTz: You could try #ubuntu-nl
[12:39] <MaDCaTz> never mind, i guess this will be an effort
[12:39] <hfic> It never seems to amaze me how completely rude and uneducated people are about this channel. It's almost like they don't understand what volunteer means.
[12:40] <usr13> glarey: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:40] <glarey> usr13: Errors were encountered while processing: gcc-4.4 libnih-dbus1 libc6:i386 libgcc1:i386 ... not much difference
[12:41] <JohnFlux> Hi all
[12:41] <usr13> glarey: sudo apt-get update
[12:41] <cfhowlett> JohnFlux: greetings
[12:41] <JohnFlux> I have attached a usb hard disk to my ubuntu system, and want to install ubuntu on that other hard disk
[12:41] <glarey> usr13: o k
[12:41] <JohnFlux> so that I can then detach the hard disk and install it in another device
[12:41] <JohnFlux> How can I best do this?
[12:42] <[cannibalera]> hy
[12:42] <zykotick9> JohnFlux: do you want to install onto the USB or install from the USB onto other hard drives?
[12:42] <ThinkT510> JohnFlux: install as you normally would selecting the right harddisk, make sure the bootloader goes to the right disk too
[12:43] <JohnFlux> zykotick9: it's a USB device that I plugged a SSD drive into, and it makes it appear as a USB device on my system
[12:43] <BluesKaj> JohnFlux, best to install it while connected to the other device due to hardware detection by the installer
[12:43] <JohnFlux> zykotick9: after installing ubuntu on it, I'll remove the ssd and install it into a netbook
[12:44] <glarey> usr13: the dpkg.log isnt much interesting. i put the last few lines on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/8hx3Phj1
[12:44] <JohnFlux> can I mount the ubuntu cd, then run the installer from ubuntu
[12:44] <JohnFlux> and install it to another hard disk?
[12:44] <zykotick9> JohnFlux: ahhh, i'm still not clear what you want.  i don't think you can "install" from an "install".
[12:44] <gordonjcp> JohnFlux: sort of, but it isn't straightforward
[12:44] <gordonjcp> JohnFlux: What exactly are you trying to do?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> JohnFlux: diagram?  'cause I don't understand either...
[12:45] <JohnFlux> I have my working ubuntu laptop.  I now want to put ubuntu on a netbook.  I have taken the SSD card out of the netbook, and connected it via a USB adaptor to my system
[12:45] <gordonjcp> so, boot some install media and install on the SSD
[12:46] <JohnFlux> I was kind of hoping to avoid burning a dvd for this :-)
[12:46] <cfhowlett> JohnFlux: you can install from usb.  don't need dvd
[12:46] <hfic> SSD Card? .. you mean SD card? vs SSD , Solid State Drive?
[12:46] <JohnFlux> hfic: SSD - solid state drive
[12:46] <usr13> glarey: We might be at an impasse.
[12:47] <JohnFlux> hfic: sorry for saying SSD card - slip of the fingers :-)
[12:47] <usr13> glarey: Unless someone speaks up now, my advise would be to back up /home/ and install 12.04
[12:48] <usr13> glarey: If you have /home/ on a second partition, you can just do the install and leave the /home/ partition as is.
[12:48] <wurmphlegm> worried about a dist-upgrade?
[12:48] <cfhowlett> glarey: agreed.  backup /home, reinstall 12.04 AFTER you md5sum check the iso.
[12:48] <glarey> usr13: well, thanks for trying. i dont give up that fast. as i have a usable installation :) ive seen worse :) just thought i drop in, maybe someone had contact with some magic dpkg tricks regarding 10.04->12.04...
[12:48] <hfic> JohnFlux, use gparted to partition the drive in question than just install ubu via iso or usb? .. Is this what ur asking
[12:48] <hfic> or wanting to accomplish anyways
[12:48] <TJ-> JohnFlux: You can, from an existing installation - without an installer ISO - use debootstrap to create the image on the external device and then, when chroot-ed into the base install on the external device. https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/linux-upgrade.html
[12:49] <glarey> yeah, and, thanks for tha instakkation tip to all :) but i assure you i had good reasons and a good chance in suceeding the dist upgrade :)
[12:49] <glarey> have a nice day
[12:49] <wurmphlegm> JohnFlux: are you wanting to turn a usb drive into a live boot?
[12:49] <BluesKaj> glarey, nothing magic about it  LTS to LTS should be a painless release upgrade
[12:49] <usr13> glarey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1959124
[12:49] <glarey> blueskaj: yeah, most of the time :)
[12:49] <usr13> glarey: have you tried   sudo apt-get clean ?
[12:50] <JohnFlux> I think TJ-'s link is exactly what I want
[12:50] <usr13> glarey: sudo apt-get autoclean
[12:50] <usr13> and then autoremove
[12:50] <glarey> blueskaj: bu i seen windowzes, openbsds, and all big flavors of linux fail on this from time to time :) so nothing to worry about
[12:50] <TJ-> JohnFlux: I use that method frequently to install custom configs to USB flash devices, and disk drives destined for other PCs
[12:51] <JohnFlux> TJ-: thanks
[12:51] <TJ-> JohnFlux: In fact, I'm using that method now to create an old Dapper virtual machine for testing
[12:51] <JohnFlux> TJ-: I'll google around for the best set of mkfs.ext4 options for a flash drive
[12:51] <usr13> glarey: Did you follow that link?
[12:51] <wurmphlegm> i need a 3 1/2 inch floppy drive
[12:51] <JohnFlux> uh ssd drive
[12:51] <cfhowlett> wurmphlegm: ???
[12:52] <glarey> usr13: well, then i would loose 4gb worth of downloades packages :) i would not do that either :)
[12:52] <wurmphlegm> cfhowlett: i need to make a copy of Floppix for a VERY old laptop
[12:52] <TJ-> JohnFlux: I think the options are now sensible in terms of no unncessary updates to atime etc. The SSDs themselves have good wear-levelling logic
[12:52] <dassouki> is there a way from terminal, I can list the 10 largest folders on my system, or folders that have more than 5gb in them includnig sub folders?
[12:52] <JohnFlux> TJ-: maybe I should install btfs, to have a play with it :-)
[12:52] <ThinkT510> wurmphlegm: what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[12:53] <TJ-> JohnFlux: Install on a whim; repent at leisure :p
[12:53] <usr13> glarey: You are not going to be able to fix what you have unless you are willing to make some changes.  I think backing up to that point is what it is going to take.
[12:53] <DaniG2k> guys I forgot my ssh passphrase. What can I do to recover/make a new one?
[12:53] <wurmphlegm> ThinkT510: i use peppermint OS
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> dassouki  ind / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \;
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> dassouki  find / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \;
[12:53] <ThinkT510> wurmphlegm: that isn't supported here
[12:53] <usr13> glarey: It's your choice though.
[12:53] <glarey> find / -type d -size +Ssomesize
[12:53] <wurmphlegm> ThinkT510: Doesn't matter, i do support for all Linux OS's
[12:54] <ThinkT510> wurmphlegm: not here you don't
[12:54] <dr_willis> wurmphlegm:  it matters if you want support in this channel
[12:54] <wurmphlegm> ThinkT510: i dont come here with questions, i help people
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> dassouki  better even    find / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[12:54] <JohnFlux> TJ-: does ubuntu 12.04 use grub 2.0 ?
[12:54] <dr_willis> JohnFlux:  yes
[12:54] <DaniG2k> guys I forgot my ssh passphrase. What can I do to recover/make a new one?
[12:55] <ThinkT510> wurmphlegm: that is commendable, but this channel is solely ubuntu support
[12:55] <glarey> MonkeyDust: but i think you missed the -type d
[12:55] <javi_> Hi guys
[12:55] <cfhowlett> javi_: greetings
[12:55] <wurmphlegm> ThinkT510: Ubuntu, Mint, Peppermint...actually all works the same for me, so it's not a problem
[12:55] <Pici> glarey: the size of directories don't reflect the combined size of their contents.
[12:55] <javi_> I do come her with questions :)
[12:55] <dr_willis> DaniG2k:  i dont think you can recover.. make a new key with ssk-keygen  perhaps
[12:55] <cfhowlett> !ask|javi_:
[12:56] <javi_> hahahaha
[12:56] <semitones> Hey you guys
[12:56] <javi_>  somebody knows how to install iceweasel on ubuntu?
[12:56]  * dshiner just lost The Game
[12:56] <cfhowlett> semitones: greetings
[12:56] <semitones> if I hit Ctrl-Z and it quits irssi, how do I restore it?
[12:56] <Pici> semitones: fg
[12:56] <dr_willis> javi_:  find a ppa for it if ita not in the repos
[12:56] <semitones> Pici!!!! Thanks buddy :D
[12:56] <DaniG2k> dr_willis thanks
[12:56] <glarey> Pici: i dont get it, but i try it out. one sec :)
[12:56] <ThinkT510> !ot | dshiner
[12:56] <dassouki> MonkeyDust: thanks
[12:56] <javi_> lets try thanks
[12:58] <JohnFlux> why does apt/sources.list use the code names?
[12:58] <glarey> Pici: intersting. thanks for the hint.
[12:58] <JohnFlux> always makes it tricky, since I never remember the code names
[12:59] <wurmphlegm> JohnFlux: Release specific packages
[12:59] <JohnFlux> wurmphlegm: no, I mean why not use "12.04" instead of "precise"
[12:59] <wurmphlegm> JohnFlux: ah yeah..no idea. haha
[13:00] <dr_willis> 12.04.1 is out now....
[13:00] <cfhowlett> JohnFlux: some people don't remember version numbers, some don't remember code names.
[13:00] <glarey> ok, learne3d something today :) now, back to fixing this ubuntu box :)
[13:00] <glarey> bye
[13:00] <wurmphlegm> GL
[13:00] <dr_willis> i cant remember my own name.
[13:01] <JohnFlux> dr_willis: willis
[13:01] <Sachin__> How to call setfsuid using syscall function?
[13:01] <dr_willis> but.. thats my dads name! ;)    back to support..
[13:02] <Sachin__> How to call setfsuid using syscall function?
[13:04] <jacklw> Hej what's the command to format a USB stick (dd)?
[13:05] <WarOfTheNerd> jacklw, to format?
[13:05] <wurmphlegm> jacklw: fdisk will work as well
[13:05] <WarOfTheNerd> jacklw, what file system would you like?
[13:05] <jacklw> FAT16
[13:05] <jacklw> Probly
[13:05] <WarOfTheNerd> jacklw, mkdosfs is the command you'll wanna look at then
[13:05] <JohnFlux> I'm quite out of date - can ubuntu 12.04 use a swap file for hibernating etc?
[13:06] <JohnFlux> or am I still best off making a 5GB+ swap partition ?
[13:06] <WarOfTheNerd> JohnFlux, technically a file can be used for swap
[13:06] <WarOfTheNerd> JohnFlux, but a swap partition is far superior
[13:06] <usr13> jacklw: But look at the output of  sudo fdisk -l  #and make sure you get the right one.
[13:06] <TheLordOfTime> JohnFlux:  i'd say use a swap partition, its far more superior
[13:06] <jacklw> All I need to do is erase all da shit off /dev/sdb
[13:06] <wurmphlegm> JohnFlux: i always make the swap roughly around the same size as my ram amount
[13:06] <WarOfTheNerd> also you need more swap than RAM
[13:06] <jacklw> What's a command to do so?
[13:07] <usr13> jacklw: mkfs.vfat
[13:07] <WarOfTheNerd> jacklw, securely erase it or just quickly erase it?
[13:07] <jacklw> Quickly
[13:07] <jacklw> :D:D::D:D
[13:07] <wurmphlegm> jacklw: you can also try cfdisk /locations/of/your/thumbstick
[13:07] <usr13> jacklw: mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1
[13:07] <WarOfTheNerd> jacklw, mkdosfs -I /dev/sdb
[13:07] <WarOfTheNerd> if I remember rightly
[13:07] <usr13> WarOfTheNerd: sdb1
[13:07] <WarOfTheNerd> usr13, no sdb
[13:08] <usr13> WarOfTheNerd: Really?
[13:08] <jacklw> lol
[13:08] <WarOfTheNerd> usr13, you do not need a partition, it's a waste of space on a USB stick
[13:08] <jacklw> 3 different options
[13:08] <WarOfTheNerd> you can format the whole device, and leave no partition, so long as it's Windows XP or above, it'll read it
[13:08] <usr13> WarOfTheNerd: I didn't know you could do that.
[13:09] <dr_willis> usr13: ive seen doing that really confuse things also... so i say partition it.
[13:09] <WarOfTheNerd> I say don't partition it
[13:09] <WarOfTheNerd> it's an avenue for malware
[13:10] <WarOfTheNerd> older boot sector viruses can infect an MBR-partitioned stick, but they can't infect a stick without MBR
[13:10] <usr13> "One doesn't always need partitions on MO disks"  hummm.... what is "MO"?
[13:10] <TJ-> AdvoWork: If you're still watching... I'm finally building the Dapper chroot... Had to fix a bug in the debootstrap package first (Dapper used MD5 checksums, but later debootstrap only supports SHA256!)
[13:10] <dr_willis> usr13: magn-optical?
[13:10] <dr_willis> magno-optical
[13:10] <usr13> And I do not see how it would be a waste of space to have a partition.
[13:11] <WarOfTheNerd> usr13, it occupies space on the disk to have the MBR
[13:11] <wurmphlegm> yeah partitions do take up space
[13:11] <dr_willis> usr13:  i dont either.  the mbr is a huge 1 k?
[13:11] <usr13> Don't you have to have an MBR?  (And it's only 512b, right?)
[13:11] <WarOfTheNerd> No you don't have to have an MBR on a USB stick
[13:12] <usr13> or 512B ?
[13:12] <WarOfTheNerd> in fact, it's also a performance hitter if you use XFS
[13:12] <WarOfTheNerd> as XFS is intended to start from the beginning of the disk and not have an offset ;)
[13:12] <jack> hello
[13:12] <WarOfTheNerd> so it takes a tiny few ms longer to mount :P
[13:13] <WarOfTheNerd> overall, if you use a modern PC with a modern OS, there's no point in having partitioning set up
[13:13] <WarOfTheNerd> the only modern system I know that can't handle it is the OS on the Xbox 360
[13:13] <wurmphlegm> lawl
[13:13] <WarOfTheNerd> oh and the 360 can't handle a single FAT either
[13:14] <wurmphlegm> it's all NTFS right?
[13:14] <WarOfTheNerd> which is another waste of space (having two copies is just stupid)
[13:14] <WarOfTheNerd> (Hint as to why it's stupid:  chkdsk can't know which copy is correct)
[13:14] <dr_willis> untill one goes bad... but tthis is getting ot..
[13:15] <mathias56> Hello, trying ubuntu for first time in a while. I got a problem with my flac file playing in slow motion
[13:16] <dr_willis> a flac video file? or you mean an audio   file playing all 'slow'?
[13:16] <mathias56> audio
[13:16] <wurmphlegm> mathias56: you have your third party codecs installed? and what player are you using?
[13:17] <BluesKaj> mathias56, using vlc ?
[13:17] <mathias56> I am not sure I chose third party install when I installed ubuntu and it plays slow on rythmbox and VLC
[13:18] <wurmphlegm> mathias56: any luck with the mplayer command in a term?
[13:18] <dr_willis> where did this flac comefrom?
[13:18] <mathias56> came from my windows machine
[13:18] <dr_willis> you made it then? with what app?
[13:18] <mathias56> No it came from a torrent
[13:18] <virtuaposta> hi eveyone!
[13:19] <wurmphlegm> moin
[13:19] <virtuaposta> can I run single named service over all the interfaces using different SOA name? for example. for the requests coming over eth0 will dig NS as ns1.example.com where as over eth1 as ns1.xyz.com?
[13:19] <BluesKaj> mathias56, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:19] <dr_willis> i would suggest finding a flac from a online site. see if a different flac works properly.
[13:20] <mathias56> I did install restricted extras following a tutorial
[13:20] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: sidenote - flac being free means it SHOULDN'T be in "restricted" extras (i'm not saying it isn't, just that it shouldn't be)
[13:20] <cfhowlett> mathias56: try a different flac
[13:20] <BluesKaj> sounds to me like the player is converting the flac file on the fly to something playable
[13:20] <dr_willis> how big is that problem flac? you could upload it somewhere fro others to try also
[13:20] <mathias56> well it works fine in windows
[13:20] <cfhowlett> mathias56: you have restricted extras.  goodl.  also condier installing medibuntu
[13:21] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, yeah agreed , it usually comes embeddied with a "player"
[13:22] <mathias56> its about 28mb
[13:22] <usr13> mathias56: do you have mplayer installed?
[13:22] <mathias56> no I dont think so
[13:23] <usr13> install it
[13:23] <mathias56> All I have is ubuntu running on virtual machine
[13:23] <BluesKaj> mathias56, you can soundconverter to uncompress the file to a wav , to see if it's inherently slow
[13:23] <Sachin__> Whats are the alternatives to ACL ?
[13:23] <dr_willis> running the media player from the commandline and playing the file might show some info messages also about the file.
[13:23] <Sachin__> Whats are the alternatives to Access Control Lists ?
[13:23] <usr13> mathias56: IMO you are upside down.  Need to have MS Windows as guest OS.
[13:23] <deepin> is there any one uesed deepin linux (bases on ubuntu)?
[13:23] <foobArrr> I'm using an USB KVM switch, one of the connected PCs runs Ubuntu. Sometimes when I switch to the Ubuntu PC, keyboard and mouse don't respond and dmesg is flooded with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1167055/
[13:24] <Sachin__> Whats are the alternatives to ACL ?
[13:24] <Inbread_Adie> font issue: http://i.imgur.com/S8S2k.png
[13:24] <Inbread_Adie> any idea?
[13:24] <dr_willis> !patience  | Sachin__
[13:24] <usr13> mathias56: As dr_willis suggests, try mplayer and see what the terminal output says
[13:25] <usr13> mathias56: or vlc, but from terminal
[13:25] <dr_willis> i wonder if its not some vm audio issue
[13:25] <usr13> dr_willis: yea... i dono
[13:25] <mathias56> how do i run it from a terminal
[13:25] <usr13> mplayer file
[13:26] <mathias56> downloading mplayer
[13:26] <usr13> or vlc file
[13:26] <usr13> mathias56: You already have restricted-extras, right?
[13:27] <mathias56> yes
[13:27] <usr13> mathias56: How are you installing mplayer?  With apt-get ?
[13:27] <mathias56> I installed it from the ubuntu package installer thing
[13:27] <usr13> mathias56: Ok, good
[13:27] <mathias56> software center
[13:28] <usr13> yea ok
[13:28] <dr_willis> id say test the same file with a ubuntu live cd..  show if its a vm issue or ubuntu issue
[13:28] <usr13> good idea
[13:28] <usr13> But see what the terminal output says when playing from mplayer
[13:29] <usr13> first
[13:29] <mathias56> where does it install to how do I ruyn from a terminal?
[13:29] <usr13> mplayer <file.name>
[13:29] <mathias56> sorry I am really new to linux
[13:29] <cfhowlett> mathias56: curious, how much ram did you assign to the ubuntu virtual machine?
[13:29] <mathias56> k
[13:29] <usr13> mathias56: Where did you save the file?
[13:29] <archangelpetro> does anyone know of a tool that can reveal network stats, like... packets captured/dropped/etc?
[13:29] <mathias56> 2GB ram
[13:29] <usr13> mathias56: Downloads?
[13:30] <archangelpetro> not tcpdump
[13:30] <usr13> mathias56: What directory is it in?
[13:30] <archangelpetro> ike a stats monitoring thing, like 'top' for thenetwork
[13:31] <usr13> mathias56: i.e. /home/mathais56/Downloads/..... ?
[13:31] <usr13> mathias56: What is the name of the file?
[13:31] <Abhijit> archangelpetro, netstat
[13:31] <mathias56> its on my desktop Honey Claws - 10 - Digital Animal.flac
[13:32] <archangelpetro> Abhijit, haha, ic ouldn't recall the name ! thanks
[13:32] <mathias56> Says playing Honey. File not found: 'Honey'
[13:32] <usr13> mathias56: Open a terminal, and find where the file is first.
[13:33] <archangelpetro> waiiiiiiiiiiit
[13:33] <mathias56> yeah Im in the dektop directory in the terminal
[13:33] <usr13> mathias56: ls  #Will tell you what is in the current directory.
[13:33]  * Abhijit waits
[13:33] <archangelpetro> Abhijit, ... not convinced.
[13:33] <Abhijit> which is the mint channel?
[13:33] <Abhijit> archangelpetro, nvm!
[13:33] <zykotick9> !mint | Abhijit
[13:33] <Abhijit> on on spotchat right
[13:33] <usr13> mplayer Honey\ Claws\ -\ 10  #hit the tab key and it should auto-complete.
[13:34] <usr13> mathias56: I usually don't save files to a computer when they have spaces in them, I remove the spaces first to simplify things.
[13:34] <tejpalsingh> hi
[13:35] <mathias56> http://imagebin.org/227129
[13:35] <Sidewinder1> usr13, Perhaps part of mathias56' s problem is the space between Honey and Claws?
[13:35] <mathias56> Yeah I think it hung up on the file name
[13:35] <tejpalsingh> i want to install roboform in mozila firfox
[13:35] <usr13> mathias56: What you should end up with is:  mplayer  Honey\ Claws\ -\ 10\ -\ Digital\ Animal.flac
[13:36] <usr13> Sidewinder1: You are correct
[13:36] <tejpalsingh> y
[13:36] <hhubris> hi all, i'm trying to find a way to install the same version of bacula-sd on both 12.04 and 10.04 and can't seem to find existing packages
[13:37]  * Sidewinder1 Hated spaces in directories and filenames.
[13:38] <zykotick9> Sidewinder1: but/ why/ ;)
[13:38] <mathias56> http://imagebin.org/227131
[13:38] <usr13> mathias56: You can also remove the spaces if you like:  mv Honey\ Claws\ -\ 10\ -\ Digital\ Animal.flac Honey-Claws-10-Digital-Animal.flac
[13:38] <mathias56> now its playing in mplayer
[13:39] <zykotick9> fail... but\ why\ ;)
[13:39] <mathias56> lol \
[13:40] <mathias56> It sounds cool slower but
[13:40] <mathias56> how do I turn it off
[13:40] <usr13> mathias56: So speed it up a little if you want.
[13:40] <digen> Hello
[13:41] <mathias56> it sounds like the rap radio when they slow everything down
[13:42] <mathias56> ok it stopped on its own
[13:42] <mathias56> how do i speed it up
[13:43] <JohnFlux> "grub-common" is at version 1.99  - is this basically 2.0 ?  I need grub 2 for btrfs support..
[13:43] <Sidewinder1> mathias56, You may need the program, Audacity to do something like that.
[13:43] <mathias56> oh ok
[13:43] <Sokel> mathias56: It's going to come down to your CPU if it's running slower than it should be.
[13:44] <mathias56> Yeah I noticed the virtual machine is really slow
[13:45] <Sokel> mathias56: You shouldn't try to do stuff like that in a virtual machine. Point of a VM is to do work, not media. At least, in my opinion. You can have stuff like that play in the background, for example, if you use ubuntu as your desktop.
[13:45] <Sokel> mathias56: And then in a VM, have windows or other distros to do work.
[13:45] <mathias56> yeah I am just trying to learn ubuntu like the terminal commands and stuff.
[13:46] <mathias56> I just wanted to test an audio file see how it does
[13:46] <hfic> learn linux .. not ubuntu
[13:47] <mathias56> er linux
[13:47] <mathias56> thanks for the help much appreciated
[13:48] <JohnFlux> I installed btrfs to /dev/sdb
[13:48] <Rovanion> Where are X keybeard maps located?
[13:48] <JohnFlux> then changed my mind, and created a partition sdb1 and sdb2, the first being swap and the second being brtfs
[13:48] <acecase> this new desktop environment is killing me. I have set the power options and "Brightness and Lock" options so that my monitors should not be idleing off, but they still do, and after about one minute idle. Any help please?
[13:48] <JohnFlux> but now i have remanents of brtfs installed
[13:48] <JohnFlux> and grub refuses to install itself to sdb
[13:49] <JohnFlux> online I found a solution to zero /dev/sdb - any other ideas?
[13:49] <usr13> mathias56: In mplayer you can hit the ] key to speed it up, or [ to slow down
[13:49] <JohnFlux> I'm not sure how to zero only the start of /dev/sdb, without messsing up the reset
[13:49] <JohnFlux> rest
[13:49] <ChogyDan> JohnFlux: can you say again what you are trying to do, and all in one message this time?
[13:50] <usr13> mathias56: mplayer -fs  <file-name>  will play it full screen,  ] or [ to speed up or slow down playback speed
[13:50] <usr13> mathias56: or you can just hit f to toggle to and from full screen.
[13:50] <hhubris> JohnFlux: take a look at this http://bit.ly/OUDjZD
[13:51] <ChogyDan> JohnFlux: I don't see why you don't just delete the partition with gparted or something
[13:52] <mathias56> oh cool
[13:54] <TJ-> JohnFlux: You can dd just the first 384 bytes of the MBR
[13:54] <TJ-> JohnFlux: That leaves the partition table intact
[13:54] <bieb> what is the difference between HomeDirUmask=022 and Dir_Mode=0770? Dirmode is in etc/adduser.conf homedirumask is in the likewise-open registry (for AD authentication)
[13:54] <Rovanion> Where are X keymaps located. I've modified a map in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ but
[13:54] <Rovanion>                   | when I set the same map and the same variant that I modified, nothing changes.
[13:55] <JohnFlux> TJ-: yeah just tried that
[13:55] <aamoh3> hi
[13:55] <JohnFlux> TJ-: hmm, actually i zeroed 446 bytes
[13:55] <TJ-> JohnFlux: That'll do!
[13:55] <JohnFlux> TJ-: but I still get:
[13:55] <JohnFlux> o grub-install /dev/sdb
[13:55] <JohnFlux> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a disk with multiple partition labels or both partition label and filesystem.  This is not supported yet..
[13:55] <JohnFlux> TJ-: any ideas?
[13:56] <TJ-> JohnFlux: if grub is thinking it sees a file-system that may be because it's looking further than just the first sector
[13:56] <ska> What do I install on Ubuntu 12.04 to use it for a VMware manager?
[13:56] <TJ-> JohnFlux: Did you create a partition within one of the partitions? I'm a little hazy on the exact state of the device.
[13:56] <ska> Documentation is confusing about how to install various vmware products.
[13:56] <JohnFlux> TJ-: sdb1 = swap  sdb2 = brtfs
[13:57] <JohnFlux> TJ-: that's my (intended) setup
[13:57] <TJ-> JohnFlux: But previously the entirety of /dev/sdb was btrfs?
[13:57] <JohnFlux> TJ-: yes.  I then changed my mind and repartioned
[13:58] <tmartiro> hello all
[13:58] <TJ-> JohnFlux: I'm guessing that is what we need to sort out... tell me, what sector number does partition 1 begin at? We could need to /dev/zero into sectors 2 to p1start-1
[13:58] <TJ-> JohnFlux: If you repartitioned, did you have the kernel reread the partition table? Or remove then reinsert the device?
[13:58] <Kyoko-chan> Hi, Ubuntu 12.04 won't boot, it says it's checking for errors in the disk, and then it reboots the PC, and it loops like that.
[13:59] <JohnFlux> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/WyvLT8pV
[13:59] <JohnFlux> TJ-: hmm, I forgot to do that reread thing
[13:59] <TJ-> JohnFlux: try "sudo partprobe /dev/sdb"
[13:59] <JohnFlux> TJ-: i used "partitionmanager" to create the partitions
[14:00] <YokoBR> hey guys, could you help me to do a simple shellscript + zenity script ?