[03:51] <alejandro> hi
[03:52] <alejandro> someone know how to change the default artwork in ubuntu? When I add an user, it uses the default Human, background, etc.
[03:52] <alejandro> I tried looking in /usr/share/gconf, /etc/gconf/, etc
[03:52] <alejandro> And it doesnt uses the /etc/skel. :-)
[03:58] <alejandro> Ah ok, now it works.


[07:26] <didrocks> btw, I think that people noticed the merger is stuck?
[08:31] <om26er> davidcalle, Hey!
[08:31] <om26er> you may want to take a look at bug 1056814
[08:32] <davidcalle> om26er, hey!
[08:33] <davidcalle> om26er, looking at it and wishing we could have moved it to py3 this cycle... Thanks
[08:33] <om26er> davidcalle, thank you :)
[12:40] <davidcalle> om26er, hey again, I'm wondering about https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-lens-photos/+bug/1049090, why have you removed [UIFe] from the title?
[12:42] <om26er> davidcalle, sorry about that, I thought it was too late for that and did we get a response from design on that?
[12:42] <om26er> its actually a oem-priority to get that fixed
[12:43] <davidcalle> om26er, yeah, everything is ready, design, doc and translators have acked.
[12:43] <om26er> davidcalle, added back the tag
[12:43] <davidcalle> didrocks, ^^^are we waiting on someone else or is it ok for you?
[12:43] <om26er> bug 1049090
[12:44] <om26er> davidcalle, so whats the new key for photo lens?
[12:44] <davidcalle> om26er, thanks, it wasn't an issue for me, just wanted to know :)
[12:44] <davidcalle> om26er, Super+C
[12:44] <om26er> and what does C stand for :O
[12:44] <davidcalle> Camera :P
[12:45] <didrocks> davidcalle: I'll backport it
[12:45] <didrocks> davidcalle: it will be uploaded today
[12:46] <didrocks> davidcalle: what's the task on the shopping lens?
[12:46] <didrocks> ah changing the shortcut as well
[12:46] <davidcalle> didrocks, I've a branch to remove the keyboard shortcut, it doesn't need one
[12:46] <didrocks> ok, please do and propose it :)
[12:46] <didrocks> Mirv: ^
[12:47] <davidcalle> didrocks, the MP is done I think, let me check
[12:47] <didrocks> davidcalle: can you send the link here
[12:49] <Mirv> davidcalle: this one? https://code.launchpad.net/~davidc3/unity-lens-shopping/remove-keyboard-shortcut/+merge/128008
[12:49] <davidcalle> didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~davidc3/unity-lens-shopping/remove-keyboard-shortcut/+merge/128008
[12:49] <davidcalle> Mirv, yes
[12:50] <didrocks> Mirv: not sure if the shopping lens has the merger in TBH
[12:50] <didrocks> Mirv: approved the branch :)
[12:50] <didrocks> davidcalle: thanks!
[12:50] <Mirv> thanks, both d:s
[12:50] <didrocks> davidcalle: can you add the downstream tasks for both on the bug report please?
[12:50] <davidcalle> didrocks, sure
[12:50] <didrocks> Mirv: I'm taking care of the photo lens
[12:54] <Mirv> sil2100 actually has the shopping packaging on his computer, but I poked him about this so that it'll be included in today's release
[12:55] <jono> didrocks, want to come on our marathon hangout for an interiveW?
[12:55] <jono> internview
[12:55] <jono> interview
[12:55]  * jono can't type
[12:55]  * jono can't type
[12:59] <didrocks> jono: can do! maybe rather tomorrow morning (when all you guys will be almost passing out :)) as today is desktop infrastructure and we are pushing unity 6.8?
[13:00] <jono> didrocks, no worries!
[13:00] <didrocks> mhall119: indeed, I will have a "full night of sleep" :)
[13:00] <didrocks> but thinking about you guys, no worry :)
[13:01] <mhall119> didrocks: :P
[15:09] <sil2100> Trevinho: hi! How's the crash fixes going? Merges submitted?
[15:09]  * sil2100 in the bus right now
[15:11] <sil2100> didrocks: any problems with the releases so far?
[15:11] <didrocks> sil2100: some with dconf
[15:11] <didrocks> sil2100: and you not diffing configure.ac
[15:12] <sil2100> In what package?
[15:12] <sil2100> Bamf I'm sure I diffed...
[15:12] <didrocks> the shopping lens
[15:13] <didrocks> depped on the new libunity
[15:14] <sil2100> Ok, about that really sorry, since it was all in a hurry, grrr - yes, this change I didn't bzr merge -c from the previous ubuntu branch...
[15:15] <sil2100> Since I recreated it from 0 in a few minutes with the new tarball :/
[15:16] <sil2100> We even prepped checklists for thimgs like that, not to forget anything, but it all was useless when doing in a hurry, I apologise about that
[15:16] <sil2100> *things
[15:20] <toabctl> Cimi, can you comment/merge https://code.launchpad.net/~toabctl/ayatana-scrollbar/fix-mem-leak-bug-1058205/+merge/127059 please?
[15:20] <sil2100> I blame the buses ;p But I also could have just made cp the whole debian directory instead
[15:21] <Cimi> toabctl: thx, I read and forgot to reply!
[15:21] <Cimi> toabctl: anyway, why you did modify the tests as well?
[15:21] <toabctl> Cimi, the test program looked very ugly.
[15:21] <toabctl> Cimi, it's just cosmetic
[15:22] <toabctl> Cimi, oh. I just realized that I proposed both commits. I can recreate the merge request with only the memory leak fix, if you want
[15:22] <didrocks> sil2100: no worry, but rigor rigor rigor please :/
[15:23] <didrocks> sil2100: this should be automatic after 6 months of practice already…
[15:24] <Cimi> toabctl: the if is redundant in the destroy notify
[15:26] <sil2100> I know I know! This time I assure you - if I only I didnt do it so hastily before going out, I would certainly notice the change, since now its no way not to when we do everything step by step
[15:26] <sil2100> So this will hopefully *not* happen again in normal working conditions
[15:27] <sil2100> I feel so ashamed because we worked so hard this week to get this formalized in our team and it all went to waste with the shopping packaging ;p
[15:27] <Cimi> toabctl: I am checking with our glib expert
[15:27] <toabctl> Cimi, you mean in destroy_private() ? g_slice_free() already checks for NULL?
[15:28] <Cimi> toabctl: destroy notify never get null
[15:29] <toabctl> Cimi, ah. ok. I can remove the if-statement
[15:30] <toabctl> Cimi, what do you want to check? and who's the glib expert?
[15:30] <Cimi> toabctl: ryan lortie
[15:31] <Cimi> desrt on freenode
[15:31] <toabctl> ok
[15:31] <toabctl> Cimi, just let me know what I should change on the branch
[15:32] <Cimi> sure
[15:46] <sil2100> popey I'm running as fast as I can :)!
[15:47] <toabctl> Cimi, thanks
[15:57]  * sil2100 is taking a taxi now
[15:58] <sil2100> didrocks: just wait 5 more minutes!
[15:58] <didrocks> ok, thanks :)
[15:58] <sil2100> I have REALLY bad timing!
[16:05] <sil2100> Launching pc!
[16:33] <didrocks> launching?
[16:33] <didrocks> no unity tarball still?
[16:48] <toabctl> charles, is there something to do for https://code.launchpad.net/~toabctl/ayatana-scrollbar/fix-mem-leak-bug-1058205/+merge/127059 ?
[16:49] <toabctl> charles, would be cool to provide debug symbols in an extra debian package for the scrollbar.
[17:18] <davidcalle> mhr3, could you have a quick look at https://code.launchpad.net/~davidc3/unity-lens-videos/fix-1056814/+merge/128073 ?
[17:19] <davidcalle> didrocks, is it too late for video lens cherrypicking? utf-8 related crash.
[17:19] <didrocks> davidcalle: urgh, really? :/
[17:19] <didrocks> is it new?
[17:20] <davidcalle> didrocks, no, but I'm discovering it, it's a regression from a few weeks ago apparently.
[17:20] <didrocks> davidcalle: I will really mandate automated testing when you get issues like this
[17:21] <mhr3> davidcalle, the first should be uri, that shouldn't need encoding
[17:22] <davidcalle> didrocks, I'm discovering this part of the code. I will update myself on automated testing next cycle :/
[17:22] <didrocks> mhr3: can you review it then?
[17:22] <mhr3> although zg isn't really forcing uris to be properly encoded uris
[17:22] <davidcalle> mhr3, yeah, but the bug report is about the uri not being correctly encoded
[17:22] <didrocks> davidcalle: if you can do the needed change in ack from mhr3 in the coming 3 minutes, I'll upload it :)
[17:22] <mhr3> meh, ack :)
[17:24] <davidcalle> didrocks, mhr3, thanks, om26er pinged me about it this morning but I couldn't access my own computer until know.
[17:24] <davidcalle> now*
[17:24] <mhr3> lenses are getting messy, libunity should do more than it does
[17:26] <didrocks> well, the video lens is still messy, I type the exact string of files name and it can't find them
[17:26] <mhr3> cause it's searching in ~/Videos only
[17:26] <toabctl> didrocks, if I want to add a -dbg package for the overlay-scrollbar, is bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-desktop/ayatana-scrollbar/ubuntu the right place to start a branch?
[17:26] <didrocks> mhr3: no, I see it at first glance
[17:27] <didrocks> toabctl: right, but why do you want to do that?
[17:27] <davidcalle> didrocks, odd, it's using locate.
[17:27] <didrocks> mhr3: I see it in the first panel, with no search
[17:27] <mhr3> didrocks, yes, the no-search results are populated by zg query
[17:27] <didrocks> like sliders.blablabla
[17:27] <didrocks> ah
[17:27] <didrocks> that's weird
[17:27] <mhr3> i think we should sru it to do things properly
[17:27] <didrocks> or not consistent :)
[17:27] <didrocks> yeah
[17:28] <toabctl> didrocks, because of https://code.launchpad.net/~toabctl/ayatana-scrollbar/fix-mem-leak-bug-1058205/+merge/127059 . maybe there will be other problems in the future and then it's nice to have the symbols araound.
[17:28] <didrocks> toabctl: we do have symbols in ubuntu
[17:28] <didrocks> toabctl: we don't need -dbg packages
[17:29] <toabctl> didrocks, hm. how to get the ??? resolved, then?
[17:30] <didrocks> toabctl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[17:30] <didrocks> mhr3: davidcalle: uploaded
[17:30] <davidcalle> mhr3, to be consistent, Zeitgeist could index all your files *cough*
[17:31] <davidcalle> didrocks, thanks!
[17:31] <didrocks> davidcalle: yw :)
[17:31] <davidcalle> mhr3, kidding :)
[17:31] <didrocks> davidcalle: is there any reason why the search doesn't include Zeitgeist?
[17:31]  * didrocks sees mhr3 becoming a green hulk :)
[17:32] <mhr3> davidcalle, yea... no :P
[17:32] <mhr3> it's a log, not an index
[17:32] <mhr3> indexer*
[17:34] <davidcalle> didrocks, the logic has changed this cycle, zg results were in a Recently viewed category in Precise. Now, it's merged, but the search hasn't been added. Would be great indeed.
[17:34] <toabctl> didrocks, cool. thanks!
[17:34] <didrocks> davidcalle: can be a SRU I guess, yep
[17:34] <didrocks> toabctl: yw :)
[17:35] <mhr3> hmm, that reminds me, design often wants something changed visually but forget to tell us how the behaviour should change to deal with that visual change
[17:35] <toabctl> didrocks, how does this work? do you build all packages without optimization and upload the packages to ddebs with the dbgsym suffix?
[17:36] <didrocks> toabctl: we build all package with debug symbols (but optimisations also, it's separate)
[17:36] <didrocks> packages*
[17:36] <didrocks> then, we strip the symbols in another files
[17:36] <didrocks> (pkgbinarymangler is doing that)
[17:36] <didrocks> and upload that in the separate archive (to not double the size of the index)
[17:37] <toabctl> didrocks, that's full automatic? without any -dbg stuff in debian/control files?
[17:38] <didrocks> toabctl: yeah, all packages in ubuntu go throught that
[17:38] <didrocks> toabctl: we just have another package installed in the chroot
[17:38] <didrocks> and hooking that
[17:38] <didrocks> toabctl: you can install it yourself: pkg-create-dbgsym
[18:26] <toabctl> Cimi, charles : I updated the bug report and the branch for the overlay-scrollbar. please review again: https://code.launchpad.net/~toabctl/ayatana-scrollbar/fix-mem-leak-bug-1058205/+merge/127059
[18:26] <charles> toabctl: cool!
[18:26] <charles> toabctl: I was just looking at that too, we're doing a lot of unnecessary work in the hijacked-dispose callback
[18:27] <charles> which was what caused Priv to get called while the widet was being disposed
[18:27] <toabctl> charles, the DestroyNotify callback definitly fixes a mem leak. So imho that's a must.
[18:27] <charles> I was just about to offer that on top of your patch
[18:27] <charles> toabctl: agree
[18:28] <charles> toabctl: but allocating memory and setting it in a widget's qdata in that widget's dispose function... not good
[18:29] <charles> IMO we need two fixes here
[18:29] <charles> toabctl: also, thanks for the test program you submitted to demonstrate the leak. I wish all leak reports were this good
[18:30] <toabctl> charles, agree. allocating mem in a dispose function is bad.
[18:31] <toabctl> charles, I just wanted to port d-feet to Gtk3. Then I ended at the scrollbar while searching for mem leaks :-)
[18:32] <toabctl> charles, btw: there seems to be another leak (reported by valgrind for the same program). but I don't understand it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260522/
[18:36]  * charles looks
[18:37] <charles> toabctl: I think that's a false positive
[18:38] <charles> toabctl: or rather, it's something that's happening deep inside the dependencies that we can't control
[18:38] <charles> toabctl: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2314
[18:40] <toabctl> charles, ah. thanks!
[18:48] <charles> Cimi, toabctl: https://code.launchpad.net/~charlesk/ayatana-scrollbar/lp-1058205/+merge/128087
[19:07] <toabctl> charles, what about the CI comment for your branch? all links are just 404....
[19:08] <charles> toabctl: CI is having a hard day :)
[19:08] <charles> toabctl: alesage is looking at it
[19:08] <alesage> toabctl, on it, a few min
[19:08] <toabctl> alesage, cool.
[19:09] <toabctl> charles, how to get the fix into 12.10? do you do a new release? or should the patch be provided in debian/patches?
[19:11] <charles> that's up to the packager. I didn't check when the last ayatana-scrollbar release was, they may patch or they may release
[19:11] <charles> toabctl: ^
[19:14] <toabctl> charles, I'll ask didrocks. he did the last upload.
[19:15] <toabctl> charles, thanks for the help!
[19:15] <charles> toabctl: seb128's on it
[19:15] <toabctl> charles, ok


[12:34] <john_b> Well I still am unable to get a standalone machine on a ltsp segment to route. Shure would like to get beyond this.
[12:36] <john_b> the edubuntu server is like this eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> default GW is <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:36] <john_b> eth1 is <IP_ADDRESS> and servers the ltsp clients
[12:38] <john_b> No problem with the thin clients but the standalone machines can't get beyond <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:48] <crimsun> john_b, cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[12:50] <john_b> root@edubuntu:/etc/init.d# cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[12:50] <john_b> 1
[12:50] <john_b> root@edubuntu:/etc/init.d#
[12:53] <crimsun> hmm.
[12:53] <crimsun> what subnet are the standalones on?
[12:54] <john_b> <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:56] <john_b> I can ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:57] <john_b> Is there some default security setting / firewall that is enabled with Edubuntu
[12:57] <crimsun> not that I know of. I know there isn't for K/Ubuntu
[12:58] <crimsun> so your standalones cover 10/8?
[12:58] <crimsun> that's a really wide netmask
[01:00] <john_b> yea I started out this AM with 2 class C and it was suggested that although this worked with my centos k12ltsp I should not be using class c
[01:01] <john_b> so now I have a class A and a class C
[01:02] <john_b> root@edubuntu:/etc/network# route
[01:02] <john_b> Kernel IP routing table
[01:02] <john_b> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[01:02] <john_b> localnet        *               <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth0
[01:02] <john_b> <IP_ADDRESS>        *               <IP_ADDRESS>       U     0      0        0 eth1
[01:02] <john_b> default         <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[01:03] <crimsun> on your standalones, what's the route?
[01:04] <john_b> default <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:06] <john_b> never mind - I'm brain dead
[01:06] <john_b> default should be <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:06] <john_b> on the standalone
[01:08] <crimsun> :)
[02:29] <macgyver2> can anyone give me an idea of the approx sizes of fresh installs?
[04:59] <Lord_Athur> hi
[05:04] <Lord_Athur> :S
[05:04] <Lord_Athur> Is it the channel of the education linux distribution?
[07:18] <xuniluser> HELP: when i used mkisofs in a newly installed ubuntu, it worked. Then when i updated my ubuntu, mkisofs tells me that there is an input/output error. What should i do?
[07:21] <crimsun> need more info than just "input/output error"
[07:21] <crimsun> what does dmesg say that's relevant to the issue?
[07:21] <crimsun> what else does mkisofs say?
[07:35] <xuniluser> crimsun: there's nothing more
[07:35] <crimsun> if mkisofs spits out i/o errors, then there's a deeper reason. See dmesg.
[07:35] <xuniluser> Done with: Extension record                        Block(s)    1
[07:35] <xuniluser> Writing:   The File(s)                             Start Block 45
[07:35] <xuniluser> mkisofs: Input/output error. cannot read from '/media/cdrom/mpegav/avseq01.dat'
[07:36] <crimsun> bad media? What light does dmesg shed?
[07:36] <xuniluser> My command syntax is sudo mkisofs -v -o Claveria.iso -J -r /media/cdrom/
[07:37] <xuniluser> ide: failed opcode was 100
[07:37] <xuniluser> end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 1864
[07:37] <xuniluser> Buffer I/O error on device hdd, logical block 466
[07:42] <crimsun> looks like bad media
[12:24] <Gand> hi all
[12:24] <Gand> I've installed moodle but I can have acces to site only from local machine and not from outside
[12:25] <Gand> http://usex.homelinux.org/moodle/
[12:29] <Gand> well, sorry but I've to go now, see you next, thank
[03:47] <Lord_Athur> hi
[03:48] <jsgotangco> hi there
[03:49] <Lord_Athur> jsgotangco, Do you use edubuntu?
[03:50] <jsgotangco> aye
[03:51] <Lord_Athur> I've installed edubuntu
[03:51] <Lord_Athur> but this had problems
[03:51] <Lord_Athur> :D
[03:57] <Lord_Athur> well
[03:57] <Lord_Athur> What special program for the educaion does edubuntu have?
[03:58] <jsgotangco> KDE-Edutainment, GCompris, Blender, etc.
[03:58] <Lord_Athur> Can I install one of this from kubuntu using apt?
[03:58] <jsgotangco> yes
[03:59] <Lord_Athur> ?exist a web page for see what each program does?
[04:05] <Lord_Athur> :D
[04:05] <Lord_Athur> Can someone answer me please
[04:05] <Lord_Athur> ?
[04:05] <Lord_Athur> :D
[04:06] <Lord_Athur> unless this page exist, what is the best for you jsgotangco ?
[04:06] <Lord_Athur> tell one for test
[04:08] <jsgotangco> hmm
[04:08] <Lord_Athur> :D
[04:08] <jsgotangco> try searching for KDE-Edutainment
[04:09] <Lord_Athur> exist edubuntu-desktop?
[04:09] <Lord_Athur> for install from kubuntu
[04:09] <jsgotangco> im not sure
[04:09] <jsgotangco> hmm
[04:09] <jsgotangco> i believe so
[04:10] <jsgotangco> (im in hoary atm)
[04:10] <Lord_Athur> ok
[04:10] <Lord_Athur> don't worry
[04:10] <Lord_Athur> :D
[04:10] <jsgotangco> i think its edubuntu-desktop yes
[04:10] <jsgotangco> if not edubuntu-base
[04:10] <jsgotangco> hmm
[04:10] <macgyver2> Yes, it's edubuntu-desktop
[04:11] <Lord_Athur> apt cannot find that
[04:11] <Lord_Athur> this says that edubuntu-desktop deos not exist
[04:13] <macgyver2> Which repos are you using, hoary or breezy?
[04:13] <Lord_Athur> I don't know
[04:14] <jsgotangco> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:14] <Lord_Athur> no wait, I'm using hoary
[04:14] <jsgotangco> you'll have to do a huge apt-get dist-upgrade to go to edubuntu or reinstall
[04:17] <Lord_Athur> for reinstall, do I have to format the heavy disk?
[04:17] <Lord_Athur> installing kubuntu o ubuntu
[04:22] <Lord_Athur> I've to go
[04:22] <Lord_Athur> I see you late
[06:17] <shiv> I need to install this
[06:17] <shiv> http://www.gnu.org/software/ggradebook/ggradebook.html
[06:17] <shiv> I am new to linux can some one guide me
[06:17] <shiv> plz
[08:41] <hyperactivecrond> ogra: you know how we need a lightweight desktop?
[08:41] <hyperactivecrond> s/we/you
[08:42] <hyperactivecrond> whoops no ogra :\
[08:42] <hyperactivecrond> oh well my suggestion for a lightweight desktop: kdelight
[08:42] <hyperactivecrond> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=425&slide=25 > screens
[08:43] <hyperactivecrond> http://www.gnulinux.de/pocketlinux/index.php/Main/WhyKDELight > site
[08:47] <spacey> bleh
[08:48] <spacey> if lightweight is needed, xfce is there :)
[09:22] <gand> hi all
[09:23] <gand> I've installed moodle using synaptic package manager
[09:24] <gand> but I have no permission to see site from internet, I can browse it only on local machine
[09:36] <EvanCarroll> Does edubuntu have a system like WebCT in place, or do they currently have a need for one?
[09:36] <EvanCarroll> Because I'm currently making something right now, and it just occured to me, it would probably be an excelent code base for oen
[09:37] <EvanCarroll> Anyway if they would be willing to accept a perl code base I could probably tweak up a damn nice testing system, this is written in Mason uses modperl, and postgres
[09:47] <JessicaX^> Hrm, anyone seen Andy around?
[09:47] <JessicaX^> (linescanner)
[10:12] <mpt> EvanCarroll: I suggest asking again when ogra is here (i.e. on Monday or Tuesday)
[10:13] <mpt> EvanCarroll: or ask on the Edubuntu mailing list http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel
[10:18] <EvanCarroll> Alright I still need to finish this, client nagging, I'm making a testing system for an insurance chain just seems like a few slight modifications nad it would fit well with education
[11:31] <EvanCarroll>  /part