[09:59] <[vali] > mataks: a virtual machine
[09:59] <DeVhuRR> There is no Ethernet option
[09:59] <mataks> [vali] : can i run windows program on vmware?
[09:59] <tehchieftain> what i dont understand, is its my decorators not loading... and its driving me nuts
[09:59] <H264> shoot, I'll try back later...
[10:00] <H264> night
[10:00] <Gesus> what's the best program for burning cds/dvds?  i do a lot of burning ... new to ubuntu.
[10:00] <[vali] > mataks: you can run whole windows in vmware and then any program on int
[10:00] <Gabz> DeVhuRR: what network card do you have ?
[10:00] <bun-bun> Gesus# Serpentine comes preinstalled and it works pretty well.  i use it
[10:00] <[vali] > Gesus: serpentine o k3b
[10:00] <DeVhuRR> Uhh onboard, Realtek Gigabit I believe
[10:00] <mataks> [vali] : kool.. where can i find links for vmware how to
[10:01] <LordLimecat> sleep!
[10:01] <mneptok> tehchieftain: did you install the Metacity replacement?
[10:01] <[vali] > mataks: read above
[10:01] <Gesus> thanks
[10:01] <tehchieftain> lmetacity replacement?
[10:01] <Gabz> DeVhuRR: so the issue is that it doesn't work or that you can't change settings ?
[10:01] <mneptok> tehchieftain: Metacity does not work with compositors.
[10:02] <mataks> [vali] : which one the easyvmx?
[10:02] <DeVhuRR> Internet doesn't work, and I looked at the Ubuntu wiki, there is no "thernet" for me to edit
[10:02] <BobZero> ok now iam sure that there is no ftp server installed or running
[10:02] <DeVhuRR> only Dial Up
[10:02] <DeVhuRR> Ethernet*
[10:02] <tehchieftain> i am trying to get emerald to load with beyrl, but none of my decorators load.
[10:02] <tehchieftain> metacity loads.
[10:02] <mneptok> tehchieftain: for help with anything related to compositing please use #ubuntu-effects
[10:02] <[vali] > mataks: the server
[10:02] <DeVhuRR> sorry, laptop, some keys are stubborn
[10:02] <tehchieftain> but not emerald
[10:02] <mataks> [vali] : dude what server?
[10:03] <[vali] > mneptok: doesnt work or doesnt need ?
[10:03] <BobZero> can someone advise an ftp-server
[10:03] <DeVhuRR> Is there a terminal command to manually set TCP/IP?
[10:03] <Gabz> DeVhuRR: in a terminal type  "sudo ifconfig" and see what it says for eth0
[10:03] <BobZero> can someone advise an ftp-server?
[10:03] <[vali] > mataks:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[10:03] <BobZero> pordftp ? vsftp?
[10:03] <yomm> Devhurr : U could try editing /etc/network/interfaces
[10:04] <[vali] > BobZero: simple and secure -> vsftpd
[10:04] <Gabz> DeVhuRR: ifconfig is the terminal program which looks after the network cards.
[10:04] <[vali] > more options -> pure-ftpd
[10:04] <mataks> [vali] : ok thnx
[10:04] <Gabz> !ifconfig
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <DeVhuRR> okay, inet addr is <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:05] <DeVhuRR> mask is <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:05] <mneptok> BobZero: why ftp?
[10:05] <BobZero> for uploading and downloading files?
[10:05] <Gabz> DeVhuRR: is that for lo or eth0 ?
[10:05] <mneptok> BobZero: this is 2007. no one except public servers should be using ftp.
[10:05] <Latitude^> !fsck
[10:05] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[10:05] <mneptok> BobZero: use scp/sftp
[10:05] <BobZero> ?
[10:06] <BobZero> i dont understand?
[10:06] <mneptok> want help?
[10:06] <DeVhuRR> Um it says
[10:06] <BobZero> sure
[10:06] <DeVhuRR> Link encap: Local Network
[10:06] <DeVhuRR> inet6 addr: 1/128
[10:06] <DeVhuRR> Scope: host
[10:06] <DeVhuRR> orry
[10:06] <DeVhuRR> not local network
[10:06] <DeVhuRR> Local Loopbck*
[10:06] <DeVhuRR> back*
[10:06] <Gabz> !paste | DeVhuRR
[10:06] <ubotu> DeVhuRR: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:07] <DeVhuRR> Sorry, just correcting errors caused by this stupid laptop keyboard :[
[10:08] <mataks> how to install vmware?
[10:09] <finalbeta> mataks: check the how to forums
[10:10] <[vali] > the vmware server comes with a nice tutorial
[10:10] <DeVhuRR> [1:05am]  Gabz  DeVhuRR: is that for lo or eth0 ?
[10:10] <DeVhuRR> Niether
[10:11] <Gabz> DeVhuRR: try this line sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[10:12] <DeVhuRR> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[10:12] <DeVhuRR> shit.
[10:12] <DeVhuRR> No Such Device
[10:13] <[vali] > how about sudo ifconfig -a ? how many devices ?
[10:14] <babo> I thought django was supposed to be in the repos ?
[10:14] <__james> what's the command in terminal to know the disk space?
[10:14] <DeVhuRR> two, lo and sit0
[10:14] <[vali] > babo: did you tried "apt-cache search django"?
[10:15] <babo> [vali] : yes
[10:15] <[vali] > in feisty is a package called python-django
[10:16] <Gabz> DeVhuRR: it seems that your ethernet card isn't installed
[10:16] <Gabz> DeVhuRR: double check that its turned on in your bios settings and you have link lights etc.
[10:16] <[vali] > babo: its in the universe repo
[10:16] <babo> [vali] : it's not in my repos for some reason ....
[10:17] <babo> ahh ...
[10:17] <babo> I'll just check
[10:17] <DeVhuRR> I doubt my MSI disc contains linux drivers, right?
[10:17] <DeVhuRR> ethernet was working on Windows 15 minutes ago
[10:17] <[vali] > DeVhuRR: seems that you dont have the driver
[10:18] <[vali] > DeVhuRR: lspci | grep thernet
[10:18] <babo> [vali] : I have edgy main universe ... but no django
[10:19] <DeVhuRR> [vali]  is that a command
[10:19] <[vali] > too new then... you should wait to feisty
[10:19] <[vali] > DeVhuRR: yes. It tells the chip of the ethernet
[10:20] <DeVhuRR> says command not found; is that LSPCI?
[10:20] <[vali] > lowercase
[10:20] <DeVhuRR> yea but it's an l?
[10:20] <[vali] > yes
[10:21] <DeVhuRR> ok
[10:21] <DeVhuRR> RTL-9169
[10:22] <__james> how to download file using terminal by wget
[10:22] <[vali] > can you paste the whole line ?
[10:22] <[vali] > __james: wget url
[10:22] <babo> [vali] : http://www.pastebin.ca/384760 ... that's my sources.list
[10:22] <babo> where's django ?
[10:23] <DeVhuRR> 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconducter Co., LTD. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)
[10:24] <[vali] > babo: in feisty, not edgy ;)
[10:24] <babo> ahh
[10:24] <babo> [vali] : so what do I do then ? enable the MAIN repos for edgy also ?
[10:25] <babo> s/edgy/feisty/
[10:26] <[vali] > feisty is unstable... wait a couple of months
[10:26] <Robinsjostrom> can i try to install ati drivers and see if it works on the live cd? or do i have to do an ubuntu install first?
[10:27] <babo> [vali] : right, so how is django in the repos then ?
[10:27] <finalbeta> You can do it on the live cd
[10:27] <[vali] > take a look... packages.ubuntu.com
[10:27] <Gabz> DeVhuRR: which version of ubuntu did you install ?
[10:28] <DeVhuRR> How long does it usually take to format 50% of a 120GB hard drive? it's been formatting for the past 20 minutes
[10:28] <DeVhuRR> Ubuntu
[10:28] <babo> [vali] : can  I just enable feisty main and do an apt-get update no ?
[10:28] <babo> apt-cache update
[10:28] <finalbeta> DeVhuRR: not that long.
[10:28] <babo> [vali] : so django isn't in the ubuntu repos then ?
[10:29] <finalbeta> DeVhuRR: formatted 500gig to ext3 yesterday in 5 minutes
[10:29] <babo> unless you happen to be using feisty ....
[10:29] <[vali] > babo: uhmm... its a python package. You can try to install the feisty package
[10:29] <[vali] > get it from the url that i posted before
[10:29] <[vali] > babo: im using feisty, yes XD
[10:29] <babo> [vali] : k thanks. I think I'll stick to the tar ball...
[10:29] <Gabz> DeVhuRR: ubuntu which number ?
[10:30] <alliantdevil> speaking of formatting im having a bit of an issue with my data drive not mounting (ext3)
[10:30] <[vali] > babo: it will probably works... its not a compiled program
[10:30] <DeVhuRR> Oh newest release, 6.1 I believe
[10:31] <finalbeta> alliantdevil: mount it manually, see what error it gives, or do a fsck.ext3 on it right away.
[10:31] <alliantdevil> tried using the "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdd1 /media/data"
[10:31] <norty> can someone help me write some assembly code?
[10:31] <alliantdevil> that should work to mount it manually yes?
[10:31] <norty> i need something pretty simple but i have only 16 bytes to do it..
[10:32] <finalbeta> norty: just go to #asm
[10:33] <norty> thx
[10:33] <Gabz> DeVhuRR: your ethernet card should of automatically installed when you installed ubuntu i can't find any reason why it didn't sorry mate
[10:34] <DeVhuRR> oh well
[10:35] <DeVhuRR> I'll look around for Realtek and MSI drivers, thanks
[10:35] <simontol> hi I need to replicate my ubuntu installation on an other partition
[10:35] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know how to attach a separate dock to the main dock in gimp?
[10:35] <peter1984> Anyone who have problem with movies and beryl? When i rotate the cube or changing opacity. The movie disapears
[10:35] <simontol> is cp -prv /* /newpartition all I need to do?
[10:36] <Gabz> DeVhuRR: the driver you want is a "r8169"
[10:36] <MrKeuner> hi, is it possible to set power settings such that the lcd panel will be dimmed after a minute of idleness?
[10:36] <Latitude^> alliantdevil, you'd also need to edit your  etc/fstab
[10:36] <DeVhuRR> yea I've found a few "drivers" but they are non-existant once clicking on the links
[10:36] <Gabz> DeVhuRR: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCardsRealtek and ubuntu say it's supported
[10:36] <alliantdevil> Latitude^: yep ive done that
[10:36] <simontol> Latitude^: are you talkin to me?
[10:37] <simontol> sorry
[10:37] <Latitude^> simontol, nope
[10:38] <OrTigaS> http://www.fugly.com/videos/7237/vista-vs-linux-ubuntu.html   <--- is this true
[10:39] <babo> mysql-python isn't in the repos either ?
[10:39] <babo> hmm
[10:39] <alliantdevil> its really kind of strange, it was a new drive that i formatted to ext3 using gparted
[10:39] <alliantdevil> edited fstab, and all that jazz but still nada
[10:40] <alliantdevil> i was kinda wondering what happened to the "disks" app that used to be in dapper but isnt in edgy?
[10:40] <DeVhuRR> are there terminal commands to manually change tcp/ip settings?
[10:41] <alliantdevil> that just seems like a strange thing to remove
[10:43] <watson540> I have had constant lockups sincei got this new laptop, tried every boot option i could. Well tonight i was playing around with some grub splashes and junk so i decided to switch framebuffer res. to 1024x768 by the line vga=791, ever since then i havent seen a lockup! -- does this sound reasonable that a gpu with shared memory might actually cause a lockup??
[10:43] <watson540> i never saw a lock in x only in console and a million times over while booting
[10:44] <Latitude^> alliantdevil, i was having a similar problem today. this helped: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux
[10:45] <alliantdevil> Latitude^: i even went through that :(
[10:45] <Latitude^> what sort of problem are you having?
[10:46] <vilefridge> Quick linux question.  If I copy a file with certain permissions to a folder with different permissions on the reiserfs filesystem, or any other linux filesystem for that matter, the file will inherit the folder's permissions, correct, instead of retaining it's own?
[10:46] <alliantdevil> hell i even "unmounted" it revoed the fstab entry and reformatted the drive again to make sure
[10:46] <xelados> I have Windows XP installed onto a separate drive and want to add a menu entry to GRUB so I can boot to it. How can I do that?
[10:48] <MrKeuner> Mar  7 04:47:35 gnome-power-manager: Screen dim because idle mode started
[10:48] <MrKeuner> Mar  7 04:47:35 gnome-power-manager: Screen resume because idle mode ended
[10:48] <MrKeuner> why does this happen?
[10:49] <varkatope_> hi
[10:49] <mypapit> hi varkatope_!!
[10:50] <decoo> hi, maybe someone know why on xgl i have xv working, but on gnome is not working?
[10:54] <djbrown> morning
[10:54] <watson540> hello
[10:54] <watson540> its quiet in here
[10:54] <djbrown> anyone got experience setting up dual screens in ubuntu?
[10:54] <watson540> sorry
[10:54] <watson540> not me
[10:55] <gyaresu> djbrown: Have you installed your nvidia/ati driver yet?
[10:56] <djbrown> gyaresu: yes
[10:56] <gyaresu> djbrown: which one?
[10:56] <djbrown> durr
[10:57] <djbrown> the one from http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu
[10:58] <bullgard1> What is 'Avahi'? Synaptic: "a fully LGPL framework for Multicast DNS Service Discovery. It allows programs to publish and discover services and hosts running on a local network with no specific configuration." Why did Ubuntu install an Ethernet interface (eth1:avahi) on my computer?
[10:58] <gyaresu> djbrown: right so nvidia. Well have a look at mine as an example (keep in mind that it's been upgraded over the years so lots of random comments etc.) http://gyaresu.org/xorg.conf
[10:59] <gyaresu> bullgard1: That's odd.
[10:59] <djbrown> your using two screens from one card yes?
[10:59] <gyaresu> djbrown: Yes.
[10:59] <djbrown> im using two cards
[10:59] <djbrown> from what i read it should just be sufficient to do another device and monitor
[11:00] <djbrown> then just
[11:00] <djbrown> Screen         0 "Default Screen" 0 0
[11:00] <djbrown>     Screen         1 "Default Screen2" RightOf "Default Screen"
[11:00] <gyaresu> djbrown: Have a look at gentoo-wiki I have set up three monitors and that's where I found the best info (6 months ago)
[11:00] <djbrown> not getting anything on the second one though
[11:00] <djbrown> yeah i did it from the gentoo wiki thing
[11:01] <GodSyn> is there any advantage to having a seperate partition for /home (other than backup purposes)
[11:01] <yomm> I tried for a couple of days to setup 3 screens/2 cards , came close , but never got all three together ..
[11:01] <djbrown> you got one on each working?
[11:02] <gyaresu> djbrown: Not much changed then... Have you tried X11/xinerama forums/chat ? Someone must have some up to date info these days. It is extrememly cool afterall.
[11:03] <ubuntu_user7982> GodSyn: I do this so if I want to blat the distro I can without losing the data there.
[11:03] <djbrown> yomm: did you get one on each card working?
[11:03] <ubuntu_user7982> GodSyn: I was on mandrake a few yrs ago and moved to Ubuntu without losing /home makes much easier
[11:04] <GodSyn> ubuntu_user7982: thanks for the info. now for my issue :) #22 on grub. (was able to boot via the super grub cd)
[11:04] <yomm> djbrown :sry can't quite remember :/
[11:04] <djbrown> gyaresu: think you can look a my xorg.conf, see if you spot anything obvious im missing
[11:04] <GodSyn> (no such partition)
[11:05] <ubuntu_user7982> GodSyn: sorry I'm not a grub guru :(
[11:08] <yurimxpxma1> I have a few questions
[11:08] <yurimxpxma1> I am using xwinwrap to change my wallpaper to a screensaver and I it will only stay that way as long as I have the terminal opened
[11:09] <yurimxpxma1> how do I fix that so I can close the terminal and still have it work
[11:09] <ekul`> !fonts
[11:09] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[11:10] <ubuntu_user7982> yurimxpxma1 stick "nohup" before the command
[11:10] <yurimxpxma1> !xwinwrap
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xwinwrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <MrKeuner> my computer does not enter the idle mode, what is the error log to start checking? syslog, and messages shows just two lines, time t entered idle mode , time t ended idle mode
[11:11] <yurimxpxma1> can someone help me with xwinwrap?
[11:11] <yurimxpxma1> I want to use it with the terminal closed
[11:11] <h1st0> yurimxpxma1: okay.
[11:11] <h1st0> yurimxpxma1: you need to make a script for it then and then just execute the script
[11:11] <djbrown> try "xwinwrap &"
[11:12] <yurimxpxma1> how do I go about doing that?
[11:12] <cwill1> apt via socks:  is there any way to do that?
[11:12] <kenthomson> I need some help regarding the linux-restricted-modules for the official nvidia drivers (not-the-ubuntu-supported-ones). I am trying to understand what happens when there is a l-r-module mismatch, and how to solve it. If someone know it, please tell me; i need to paste some stuff and than need a explanation (i have already found something that partially explains this). So i need someone to come-up, and talk separately to avoid flooding the channel
[11:13] <cwill1> kenthomson:  use a pastebin, and post the link
[11:13] <cwill1> !pastebin
[11:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:13] <yurimxpxma1> is the script just what I would type in the terminal?
[11:13] <ubuntu_user7982> yurimxpxma1: try "nohup xwinrap &" then when you close the terminal it will not be closed also
[11:13] <yurimxpxma1> but will it be on when I reboot if I do that?
[11:13] <kenthomson> cwill1, do you know the answer you my question?
[11:14] <h1st0> yurimxpxma1: yes or you can put it in session to start it on boot.
[11:14] <djbrown> nice, got the second screen to start up
[11:14] <kenthomson> Can someone help me with the linux-restricted-modules question?
[11:14] <cwill1> kenthomson: can't say, but paste the text you have to a pastebin, and then re-ask giving that:  it's easier for people to help you that way
[11:14] <djbrown> i just cant click anything on it ;P
[11:14] <yurimxpxma1> h1sto, what do i put in the script?
[11:15] <h1st0> yurimxpxma1: what ever command you wan tot run.
[11:15] <yurimxpxma1> k
[11:15] <yurimxpxma1> I will give it a try
[11:15] <yurimxpxma1> thanx
[11:15] <nounours>  /msg nickserv link nounours 4irc
[11:15] <h1st0> yurimxpxma1: like xwinwrap -ni -argb -fs -s -st -sp -b -nf -o 0.3 -- /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatrix -window-id WID -delay 10000
[11:15] <systemd0wn_> haha
[11:15] <h1st0> yurimxpxma1: then you just make the file executable and put it in /usr/local/bin
[11:16] <kenthomson> Anyone?
[11:16] <norsetto>  /msg nickserv link nounours 4irc
[11:17] <Latitude^> is there way for windows to write on ext3?
[11:17] <h1st0> yurimxpxma1: then you could jsut hit alt+f2 and type the script name in.  Or you could put it in system > preferences > session to load on startup.
[11:17] <h1st0> Latitude^: yes
[11:17] <h1st0> Latitude^: there are ext3 file browsers
[11:17] <h1st0> Latitude^: dunno if they support write though but they can read.
[11:18] <cwill1> Latitude^: h1st0:  ext2 only I thought
[11:18] <cwill1> r/w, but not journalling
[11:18] <djbrown> gyaresu: hmm.. seems im getting the second one as a separat screen not an extenstion of the first one
[11:18] <h1st0> cwill1: no they can do ext3
[11:18] <cwill1> h1st0: are you sure?  ext2 is compatible with ext3
[11:18] <Latitude^> h1st0, have u used it personally?
[11:18] <ubuntu_user7982> https seems to be broken on my system - i've tried reinstalling the appopriate libriaries to no avail tho doesnt work on any browser including lynx!  Any one seen this have any ideas what might be wrong here?
[11:18] <systemd0wn_> how can i tell the kernel version im currently using?
[11:18] <h1st0> systemd0wn_: uname -r
[11:19] <dopry> x11-common in fiesty has bad validation for xserver nice value.
[11:20] <systemd0wn_> h1st0: thanks
[11:20] <djbrown> anyone got dual screens runnig with beryl?
[11:21] <yurimxpxma1> thanks h1st0 it works
[11:21] <yurimxpxma1> I have another question though while I am here
[11:21] <cwill1> h1st0: Latitude^:  http://www.fs-driver.org/ lets you mount ext2 in xp, which is compatible with ext3 (you can read and write, but it's not quite as safe as a true ext3 driver);  there's also several readonly browsers (which again work with both ext2 and ext3, and for read-only, there's no catch)
[11:21] <yurimxpxma1> does anyone know how to change the color of the text on the panels?
[11:21] <Alarm> hello, how can i translate this in kbyte/s : larm@rockpc:~$ ifconfig eth0 | grep 'RX byte'          RX bytes:292816535 (279.2 MiB)  TX bytes:56932362 (54.2 MiB)
[11:22] <h1st0> yurimxpxma1: edit your theme
[11:22] <systemd0wn_> so if i have to verstions installed i should be able to delete another kernel with no problems, right?
[11:22] <h1st0> yurimxpxma1: what are you running with xwinwrap if Imight ask? and how much cpu does it eat?
[11:22] <yurimxpxma1> I am using beryl right now
[11:22] <cwill1> Latitude^: I've used the fs-driver before, although not for anything heavy duty
[11:22] <h1st0> yurimxpxma1: you'd have to edit what ever theme you are using with emerald
[11:22] <yurimxpxma1> hmm
[11:23] <yurimxpxma1> I am not seeing anything in the emerald theme manager about it
[11:23] <cwill1> djbrown: I've done dual screens, but the video card has to support treating it as one giant framebuffer
[11:23] <h1st0> yurimxpxma1: dunno maybe manually edit the theme
[11:23] <cwill1> djbrown: ati cards are capped at 2x1024x768 due to a limitation in the card for that technique
[11:23] <h1st0> systemd0wn_: if you are running a newer kernel you can purge the older ones yes.
[11:24] <yurimxpxma1> how do I do theat?
[11:24] <yurimxpxma1> that*
[11:24] <systemd0wn_> h1st0: thanks again!
[11:24] <Latitude^> thanks cwill1
[11:24] <djbrown> cwill1: i've got the two screens running now it just seems like it's treating the second one as a seperat entity instead of an exstention of the first one
[11:24] <cwill1> djbrown: can you pastebin me your xorg.conf?
[11:25] <cwill1> djbrown: what video card?
[11:25] <BobZero> how i can edit a users group?
[11:25] <ikonia_> BobZero usermod
[11:25] <djbrown> cwill1: 2x7900gtx
[11:25] <cwill1> djbrown: two seperate video cards?
[11:25] <h1st0> BobZero: what do you mean?
[11:25] <djbrown> yeah
[11:25] <cwill1> djbrown: :(
[11:25] <h1st0> BobZero: nvm
[11:25] <DeVhuRR> ali
[11:25] <DeVhuRR> sli
[11:26] <djbrown> not running them in sli atm
[11:26] <yurimxpxma1> does anybody else know how I can change my font color in the panels?
[11:26] <djbrown> cwill1: http://kriegsmarine.se/stuff/xorg.conf
[11:26] <cwill1> djbrown: xinerama (two joined screens) isn't accelerated in that case;  there was a package that was supported to make that work, but I can't remember the name, and I have no idea if it'd work for this case
[11:26] <djbrown> seems people have it running like that accelerated
[11:26] <ikonia_> cwill1 you can do it with twin view, and has he's using sli - he can get acceleration on each screen as it luanches two x servers
[11:26] <djbrown> just not finding much info about setting it up
[11:27] <djbrown> ikonia_: not using them in SLI it's just two identical cards
[11:27] <ikonia_> djbrowneven better
[11:27] <ikonia_> djbrown even better
[11:27] <djbrown> thing is
[11:27] <ikonia_> 1 card per x server = accelerated
[11:27] <djbrown> if i start it up now
[11:28] <djbrown> i get two gnome running
[11:28] <djbrown> and if beryl is running as well it locks up the second screen
[11:28] <ikonia_> djbrown all depends on how you set it up
[11:28] <yurimxpxma1> does anybody know how to change the color of the text in the panels?
[11:28] <djbrown> ikonia_: can you take a look at my xorg there
[11:28] <djbrown> ikonia_: http://kriegsmarine.se/stuff/xorg.conf
[11:29] <zzaza> hi all
[11:29] <yettenet> Could you tell me the name of the window manager with the lowest memory footprint?
[11:29] <djbrown> ikonia_: what i want is for the second one to be an extension of the first if at all possible
[11:29] <h1st0> yettenet: well there are a few that are really low.
[11:29] <cwill1> yettenet: I like using matchbox for extreme requirements, but that's um, a bit extreme
[11:29] <yettenet> h1st0: For example?
[11:30] <h1st0> yettenet: blackbox fwm icewm xfce etc...
[11:30] <yettenet> Hm
[11:30] <h1st0> yettenet: all of those are lower in memory footprint.
[11:30] <yettenet> Isn't blackbox already dead?
[11:30] <ikonia_> djbrown then you need to run xinerama but instead of using 1 card and two ports as most people do you need to use the bus id of twp different cards to it launches 1 xserver per card
[11:30] <h1st0> yettenet: if you just go with xubuntu-desktop
[11:31] <zzaza> talking about window manager whci one would recomnd for an internet cafe
[11:31] <djbrown> ikonia_: so just set up xinerama and define the bus id's in the config?
[11:31] <ikonia_> zzaza personal choice of the owner
[11:31] <shaun__> yo
[11:31] <ikonia_> djbrown thats the basics of it - but make sure the bus id's of of each card, not 1 card sharing the two ports on it
[11:31] <shaun__> hey all
[11:31] <yettenet> Hi
[11:31] <ikonia_> shaun__ say you the first time
[11:31] <ikonia_> saw
[11:31] <shaun__> is josh josh here
[11:31] <shaun__> lolz
[11:31] <ikonia_> shaun__  take a look
[11:32] <zzaza> ikonia, thinking of loe mem, easy to configure, and easy for most of the pepple
[11:32] <ikonia_> zzaza gnome
[11:32] <simontol> hi anyone here who has used debootstrap?
[11:32] <ikonia_> zzaza in my opinion
[11:32] <cwill1> zzaza: do you want to provide a full-desktop, or just the browser?
[11:32] <shaun__> ahhh
[11:32] <shaun__> well i had 2 get rid of ubuntu yesterday
[11:32] <djbrown> ikonia_: giving it a try now then
[11:33] <ikonia_> djbrown I'm a bit rust on xinerma - also be aware of twinview - but I prefer the native xinerma
[11:33] <ikonia_> s/rust/rusty
[11:33] <shaun__> i updated 2 edgy and it wouldnt let me put my graphics drivers on
[11:33] <h1st0> shaun__: why?
[11:33] <ikonia_> h1st0 ugghh feeding
[11:33] <zzaza> cwill1, humm not reall full desktop, browser, acroread, gaim or kopeta and abilty to connect a camera
[11:33] <shaun__> i dont no i have a geforce 7300 LE
[11:33] <h1st0> shaun__: did you try the nvidia-glx package?
[11:33] <djbrown> ikonia_: work but it's accelerated
[11:33] <ikonia_> zzaz gnome for ease - if you have time xfce but configure it
[11:33] <cwill1> zzaza: xubuntu + possibly a lighter wm if you want is probably a good fit
[11:33] <babo> what do I set up my windowing to, if I don't want emacs to keep opening up in X11 ? ... it's 0:0 or something like that
[11:34] <ikonia_> djbrown do you not want accelerated ?
[11:34] <shaun__> yh i tried
[11:34] <ekul`> !xvid
[11:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:34] <neildarlow> i've got some updates that are failing on preconfigure (bad nice value passed). is there any way i can hack the downloaded package to fix it?
[11:34] <djbrown> ikonia_: i want to to be accelerated so i can use beryl
[11:34] <djbrown> ikonia_: it to be*
[11:34] <shaun__> i only wanted 2 play css
[11:34] <djbrown> ikonia_: but now with xinerama it isnt
[11:34] <h1st0> zzaza: or just no wm and just use X then just startx and launch the paps
[11:34] <shaun__> cuz most servers r linux
[11:34] <babo> DISPLAY=:0.
[11:34] <babo> ?
[11:34] <ikonia_> djbrown ok - 1.) use xinerama - its not driver dependent 2.) beryl is dubious on dual headed displays you need to make sure your config is spot on and pray
[11:34] <ikonia_> djbrown it should be
[11:35] <ikonia_> djbrown use the nvidia driver and xinerma  - if not try twinview
[11:35] <cwill1> djbrown: twinview is probably your best bet
[11:35] <shaun__> does any 1 have a gforce 7300 LE
[11:35] <ikonia_> shaun__ no
[11:35] <zzaza> anyone with documenation or any help using xubuntu server for xterminal or thin clients
[11:35] <ikonia_> shaun__ but the nvidia drivers support it fine
[11:36] <shaun__> it dont tho i tried everything
[11:36] <ikonia_> zzaza what sort of help
[11:36] <ikonia_> shaun__ read this link
[11:36] <shaun__> kk
[11:36] <ikonia_> !nvidia >shaun__
[11:36] <shaun__> what link???
[11:36] <zzaza> ikonia, configuration for the xterminal
[11:36] <ikonia_> zzaza what part of configuring it
[11:36] <shaun__> i see no link
[11:36] <ikonia_> why would you give someone an xterm
[11:36] <ikonia_> shaun__ it was sent in a pm
[11:37] <cwill1> zzaza: look up edubuntu, ltsp
[11:37] <cwill1> !ltsp
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ltsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <zzaza> ikonia, cleints desktop configurstion
[11:37] <cwill1> :/
[11:37] <ikonia_> cwill1 ltsp ?
[11:37] <cwill1> he wants thin clients?
[11:37] <ikonia_> zzaza ok - so what you're looking for is netbooting disk less root
[11:37] <ikonia_> zzaza google for that
[11:37] <zzaza> cwill1, i have looked both at edubuntu and www.ltsp.org
[11:37] <ikonia_> diskless clients that should read
[11:38] <h1st0> Is there a command to have grub regenerate the menu.1st?
[11:38] <ikonia_> h1st0 no
[11:38] <h1st0> I removed some old kernels and they aren't removed.
[11:38] <shaun__> yh i have used this 1
[11:38] <ikonia_> h1st0 have you rebooted ?
[11:38] <h1st0> Or a script I know its run when you install a new kernel
[11:38] <shaun__> it does not work
[11:38] <h1st0> ikonia_: no
[11:38] <ikonia_> h1st0 each kernel installs its self in grub
[11:38] <BobZero> i got e user for sftp
[11:38] <BobZero> everything fine
[11:38] <h1st0> ikonia_: I know but when you purge a kernel grub doesn't update
[11:38] <hades> does anyone know how to install the kerio mail server (rpm-package) ?! ...
[11:39] <ikonia_> h1st0 if you remove a kernel - more so if its the running kernel you'll need to reboot to get the rest ot he post-deletion process to update
[11:39] <ekul`> !xvid
[11:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:39] <ikonia_> h1st0 it should do
[11:39] <djbrown> ikonia_: from what im reading it looks like xinerama does not support accelerated graphics
[11:39] <BobZero> but now i want the this user only see his homefolder
[11:39] <ikonia_> hades rpm is not for ubuntu
[11:39] <BobZero> and nothing else
[11:39] <h1st0> ikonia_: I'm not running the kernel I removed.
[11:39] <ikonia_> djbrown I've had it running - I'm %90 certain of that on dual head with nvidia
[11:39] <ikonia_> h1st0 looks like your post script didn't clean up
[11:39] <User2007> hello, can someone help me with cpu frequency scaling? I've installed xubuntu dapper and I don't think it's been detected
[11:40] <hades> in know, but u can convert it with "alien" but the startscipts are wrong ... : /
[11:40] <ikonia_> User2007 what processor do you have- its had issues
[11:40] <ikonia_> hadesbecause the contents of an rpm are not meant to be installed on ubuntu
[11:40] <h1st0> ikonia_: Thats why i'mlooking for the script.
[11:40] <User2007> mobile P3 750 MHz
[11:40] <ikonia_> User2007 don't think they support scaling, they are just low frequency
[11:40] <User2007> it says it has intel speedstep
[11:40] <ikonia_> hades because the contents of an rpm are not meant to be installed on ubuntu
[11:41] <ikonia_> User2007 ahh yes, speed stepping, my mistake
[11:41] <djbrown> ikonia_: hrm.. have to do some more browsing then
[11:41] <User2007> but there may be another reason it isn't working already...I had to install xubuntu on another computer then put that hard drive in this laptop, because I can't boot from cd or floppy on this
[11:41] <ikonia_> djbrown I had beryl working too, but it was a little unstable
[11:41] <User2007> so maybe because the other computer didn't have speedstep it didn't set it up?
[11:42] <ikonia_> User2007 ubuntu isn't portable - you can't swap harddisks like that
[11:42] <User2007> I know it's not usually a good idea, but I didn't know how else to get it on this system
[11:42] <h1st0> ikonia_: update-grub was what I was looking for.
[11:42] <djbrown> ikonia_: beryl works with no problems if im running just one screen
[11:42] <ikonia_> User2007 reinstall
[11:42] <User2007> how?
[11:43] <ikonia_> djbrown yes but you wanted dual screen - so thats a pointless example
[11:43] <ikonia_> User2007 do you not have a cdrom drive ?
[11:43] <User2007> no I don't, not on this laptop
[11:43] <User2007> no floppy either
[11:43] <ikonia_> User2007 netboot is your only option - but thats a lot of effort
[11:43] <MrKeuner> my computer does not enter the idle mode, what is the error log to start checking? syslog, and messages shows just two lines, time t entered idle mode , time t ended idle mode
[11:44] <User2007> is there some way to make it redetect all of the hardware?
[11:44] <shaun__> cheers ikonia im goin 2 reinstall ubuntu which 1 u runnin
[11:44] <Xif> is there a way to bind keyboard shortcuts to launchers (like you can do in Windows)?
[11:44] <CyberCr33p> is possibly using imap2 to hide files that start with . ?
[11:44] <ikonia_> User2007 nope as its an "install"
[11:44] <ikonia_> shaun__ doesn't matter which one I'm running
[11:45] <User2007> I guess going back to XP is the only option for this laptop
[11:45] <varkatope_> is there any linuxbased htpc application like vdr that also supports fullfeatured dvb-s cards and playback of various videoformats like divx and stuff?
[11:45] <shaun__> u runnin edgy or dapper
[11:45] <shaun__> i wanna no which 1 is better
[11:45] <shaun__> just want ur opin
[11:46] <ttmrichter> shaun__: Better for what?
[11:46] <shaun__> my 64 bit pc
[11:46] <Ribs> varkatope_, I don't know what vdr is... but are you looking for something like mythtv?
[11:46] <djbrown> ikonia_: twin view does support accelerated but im not surt it'll work as i want running it on two cards
[11:46] <User2007> oh well, thanks anyway ikonia
[11:47] <ekul`> how do i download and install the dependency libdvdcss2?
[11:47] <h1st0> What am I missing in grub's menu.1st that doesn't automatically append vga=792 when update-grub is run? Here is my menu.1st http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9066/
[11:47] <shaun__> bb ppl
[11:47] <ikonia_> djbrown got to try it
[11:47] <varkatope_> Ribs: indeed, but as far as i know mythtv doesnt support dvb-s cards in general and fullfeatured dvb-s cards in particular
[11:47] <h1st0> I have # defoptions=quiet splash vga=792
[11:47] <ikonia_> shaun__ neither is better - and run 32bit not 64 bit
[11:48] <LePoulpe303> hi all
[11:48] <ikonia_> ekul its in the wiki
[11:48] <ekul`> damn theres a wiki, excellent :D
[11:48] <ekul`> cheers
[11:48] <ubuntu_user7982> https seems to be broken on my system - i've tried reinstalling the appopriate libriaries to no avail tho doesnt work on any browser including lynx!  Any one seen this have any ideas what might be wrong here?
[11:48] <ikonia_> ekul` well done on reading the topic or the ubuntu home page......not
[11:48] <Ribs> varkatope_, my understanding is that it should be okay as long as the proper Linux drivers exist. It works pretty well with the DVB-T cards I have installed.
[11:48] <Ribs> varkatope_, but I'm not an expert :)
[11:48] <LePoulpe303> i have a pretty strange problem ; in order to have 3D detected ; i must fist boot windows then ubuntu ?!? i can't understand that ; anyone has a clue ?
[11:49] <ikonia_> ubuntu_user7982 more detail, whats happening , whats the "appropriate libraries" you think need re-installing
[11:49] <_james> what is the command to check the disk space using terminal?
[11:49] <ikonia_> LePoulpe303 thats nonsense
[11:49] <ikonia_> _james df -h
[11:49] <LePoulpe303> ikonia_: but true
[11:49] <ikonia_> LePoulpe303 yes, but has no purpose
[11:49] <h1st0> _james: du
[11:49] <varkatope_> Ribs: thats my problem, as far as i researched, dvb-t is well featured by almost every htpc-app while dvb-s isnt
[11:49] <LePoulpe303> ikonia_:   cold boot ubuntu )> fglrxinfo : mesa glx ; boot win fist then ubuntu => fglrx gives radeon9600
[11:49] <h1st0> _james: df i'm sorry
[11:50] <Ribs> varkatope_, Is it worth just trying it to see if it's good enough for you?
[11:50] <ikonia_> LePoulpe303 impossible - you're xorg.conf file doesn't change between boots
[11:50] <djbrown> ikonia_: i have a feeling it's going to break horribly ;)
[11:50] <LePoulpe303> ikonia_: i'm not a liar
[11:50] <djbrown> ikonia_: but we'll see
[11:50] <LePoulpe303> ikonia_: neither stupid
[11:50] <varkatope_> Ribs: so there are no alternatives to mythtv or vdr?
[11:50] <ikonia_> LePoulpe303 I don't doubt it-b ut xorg.conf is a static file - you need to investigate if its changing
[11:51] <LePoulpe303> ikonia_: my feeling is that windows tweaks the bios
[11:51] <ikonia_> djbrown trial and error will tell
[11:51] <Ribs> varkatope_, I only use mythtv. as PVR programs go, I'd say mythtv is the most fully featured.
[11:51] <LePoulpe303> ikonia_: for agp settings
[11:51] <ikonia_> LePoulpe303 I find that hard to believe - but possible
[11:51] <ekul`> well im sorry i didn't see it there ikonia_, i was a bit distracted by actually having ubuntu working now
[11:51] <graba> helo, smb know how install new hard disk drive in external enclosure on USB ?
[11:51] <ikonia_> LePoulpe303I suggest you view your xorg.conf files between boots
[11:51] <varkatope_> Ribs: ok, ill give it a try
[11:51] <LePoulpe303> ikonia_: i made the experience 6 times, i wasn't believing it myself
[11:51] <ikonia_> LePoulpe303 did you check the xorg.conf file
[11:51] <varkatope_> Ribs: what kind of mediaplayer does mythtv use to play all sorts of video?
[11:52] <ikonia_> ekul` all the more reason to read the docs - walking before running
[11:52] <peter1984> any way to split files in 2?
[11:52] <LePoulpe303> ikonia_: i tried all the wiki and advice of the www to make this d.mned ati card work without any results
[11:52] <ikonia_> LePoulpe303 did you check the xorg.conf file
[11:52] <ubuntu_user7982> ikonia_: tries to make connection and then gets "stuck" vstrange the libs i reinstalled were the standard ubuntu ssl ones.  Really not sure what caused this! Quite a low level problem as well by the looks of it.
[11:52] <LePoulpe303> ikonia_: i can try putting it read only to be sure
[11:52] <Ribs> varkatope_, it uses it's own built in one. For media files you manually feed it, it can use whatever you tell it to. But for LiveTV and stuff it's recorded itself, it uses it's built in player.
[11:52] <ikonia_> ubuntu_user7982 check the ssl log
[11:52] <ikonia_> LePoulpe303 just check the xorg.conf file to see if its changed
[11:52] <LePoulpe303> ikonia_: but i don't see something modifying xorg.conf at each boot
[11:53] <ikonia_> LePoulpe303 you don't need read only - just check it
[11:53] <varkatope_> Ribs: is the builtin player based on  xine?
[11:53] <ikonia_>               LePoulpe303 no netierh do I but thats the only way the drivers can change - unless its down to loading a kernel module
[11:53] <Ribs> varkatope_, I don't know.
[11:53] <LePoulpe303> ikonia_: but(ill try that in a couple of hours
[11:53] <ikonia_> I don't know the ati drivers that well so I don't know if its a kernal module
[11:53] <Ribs> varkatope_, I suggest you ask in #mythtv-users :)
[11:53] <fn1> Has anyone enabled the 'composite' functionality of metacity ?. I'm not quite fond of an alternate WM like Compiz/Beryl but slight eye-candy wouldn't hurt. What feature does composited metacity bring ?
[11:53] <ikonia_> fn1 google xorg composite
[11:54] <LePoulpe303> ikonia_: as far as i know fglrx is a kernel module
[11:54] <ikonia_> LePoulpe303 check if thats being loaded then
[11:54] <LePoulpe303> but honestly , hypothesis of windows tweaking the bios settings is more probable for me
[11:54] <ikonia_> LePoulpe303 ughhhhh
[11:54] <fn1> ikonia_: xcompmgr, I'm on half way downloading a large package so it's not possible to try it now.
[11:54] <ikonia_> LePoulpe303 you're not listening - the problem is not windows the problem is whats different in ubuntu's behaviour - once you now that you can fix it
[11:55] <aeromix> [1153] [au@dublin:~] $ n="00001"; if [[ $n -eq 1 ] ] ; then echo "JO!"; fi
[11:55] <aeromix> bash: !": event not found
[11:55] <aeromix> why does echo not print ! ?
[11:55] <LePoulpe303> ikonia_: after windows boot it's loaded; when cold boot, it doesn't load "internal agp not handled by kernel 2.6"
[11:55] <ikonia_> LePoulpe303 stop looking at what windows does/doesn't do - and find out whats changing in ubuntu
[11:55] <Ribs> fn1, metacity's eye-candy has to be compiled in. I don't think Ubuntu offers that yet.
[11:55] <LePoulpe303> ikonia_: ok ; i'll see that , then i'll tell you ;)
[11:56] <kekko_> hallo ubuntu people
[11:56] <fn1> Ribs: Probably so, toggling it in gconf editor makes no different. Thanks.
[11:56] <varkatope_> Ribs: i'll do so, thx
[11:56] <kekko_> does anyone know how to copy files from a dir keeping files permissions?
[11:56] <ikonia_> kekko_ man cp
[11:57] <kekko_> ikonia_  :)
[11:57] <ikonia_> kekko_ what ?
[11:58] <kekko_> ikonia: i've cheked there
[11:58] <kekko_> or i won't be here asking..
[11:58] <ikonia_> kekko_ no you've not
[11:58] <fn1> kekko_: search the word 'preserve'
[11:58] <kekko_> ok chekcing again
[11:58] <ikonia_> read it again
[11:58] <banco> Is there any way to givean application a priority on cpu usage to stop glitching when other processes are getting greedy?
[11:58] <ikonia_> banco nice
[11:59] <dbprog> kekko_: cp -p ...
[11:59] <banco> ikonia, nice? nice is an app?
[11:59] <ikonia_> dbprog he's meant to be looking himself - thats basic
[11:59] <fn1> banco: checkout 'nice' command
[11:59] <dbprog> kekko_: parameter p is what you need ;-)
[11:59] <kekko_> ikona_ : you are right
[11:59] <ikonia_> kekko_I know - thats why I told you to look again
[11:59] <kekko_> dbprog: thanks
[11:59] <ikonia_> give a man a fish and he'll eat it, give him a net and he'll eat for life
[11:59] <banco> OK! like it, cheers fn1 ikonia
[11:59] <kekko_> ikonia_ : totally true
[11:59] <ikonia_> we give too many fishes
[12:00] <banco> <<thought ikonia was talking about his grammar
[12:00] <ikonia_> banco its a command
[12:00] <dbprog> some people doesn't want to fish, they just want to eat
[12:00] <ikonia_> dbprog yes, but its tedious
[12:00] <ikonia_> dbprog constant spoon feeding = dumb community
[12:01] <kekko_> ikona_ dbprog : a bit of this a bit of that is perfect
[12:01] <yomm> tar -cvvf myhome.tar /home/myhome/
[12:01] <yomm> Would this be ok to tar up my home dir ? :
[12:01] <kekko_> sort of "both togheter are best"
[12:01] <ikonia_> yomm not with two V's
[12:01] <banco> ikonia, i gotchya ;)
[12:01] <fn1> yomm: yup
[12:01] <dbprog> ikonia I understand
[12:01] <ekul`> I've searched the wiki and cant find anything, i get 18 results for a text search for 'libdvdcss2' about half are in another language, some are just to do lists and nothing on how to install
[12:01] <OSU> .
[12:02] <ikonia_> ekul` search for "restricted formats"
[12:02] <yomm> ikonia : whhat exactly are the V's for , tha man pages say something about name label ...
[12:02] <ikonia_> yomm verbose
[12:02] <dbprog> do you guys know an equivalent of project conduit ?
[12:02] <yomm> ikonia : so the V's shouldn't do any harm ?
[12:03] <fn1> yomm: try it and see.
[12:03] <banco> and another (while i'm here)...
[12:03] <fn1> yomm: the man pages are pretty clear.
[12:03] <ekul`> i've already read that page ikonia, it give a link to the libdvdcss2 package, which i downloaded and tried to install with deb package installer
[12:03] <ekul`> Error: Dependencies is not satisiable: libdvdcss2
[12:04] <nysosym> hi there, has anyone tested the new kde 4 release in feisty fawn? How can i activate them?
[12:04] <yomm> fn : They don't explain why there is a double v
[12:05] <RodneyMcKay> where can i find libofa?
[12:05] <fn1> yomm: yeah, but many commands do consider double (or triple) Vs are even more verbose.
[12:05] <RodneyMcKay> googling seems to show it's in the main pool repo
[12:05] <RodneyMcKay> but i can't find it using synapti
[12:05] <RodneyMcKay> +c
[12:05] <systemd0wn_> how can i see what driver my wireless card is currently using?
[12:05] <yomm> fn1 : I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to do something stupid .. I did read the man pages
[12:05] <yomm> fn1 : ok I see !
[12:06] <BobZero> hi
[12:08] <intelikey> hey bob0
[12:08] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  fuser /dev/ttyS0
[12:08] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  wvdial
[12:08] <intelikey> --> Cannot open ./dev/ttyS0: Device or resource busy
[12:08] <intelikey> can anyone tell me what is causing that error or how to find it ?
[12:08] <kishore> Hi all
[12:08] <kishore> any one help me in using "screen" command
[12:08] <Frogzoo> intelikey: you have a prog open that's using the port
[12:08] <kishore> i ve confused
[12:09] <intelikey> Frogzoo what would it be the process table is all but empty ?
[12:09] <Frogzoo> intelikey: pppd ?
[12:09] <yomm> Intelikey : check : setserial
[12:09] <yomm> !setserial
[12:09] <ubotu> setserial: controls configuration of serial ports. In component main, is extra. Version 2.17-43 (edgy), package size 56 kB, installed size 192 kB
[12:09] <bezibaerchen> which package provides /usr/bin/mail?
[12:09] <peter1984> how do i split a tar file into two?
[12:10] <intelikey> nope that's the problem  i couldn't dial up.    i had to chroot into another installation just to dial out
[12:10] <intelikey> Frogzoo ^
[12:10] <fnf> peter1984: split
[12:10] <yomm> Intelikey : it will free up your serial port
[12:10] <kishore> ubotu: screen
[12:10] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[12:10] <peter1984> fnf, and what operands
[12:11] <intelikey> and if the modem was actualy busy i couldn't have dialed out in the chroot
[12:11] <fnf> !man | peter1984
[12:11] <ubotu> peter1984: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:11] <fnf> peter1984: man split
[12:11] <systemd0wn_> how can i see what driver my wireless card is currently using?
[12:11] <intelikey> Frogzoo any more thoughts ?
[12:12] <Frogzoo> intelikey: old lock file not cleaned up?
[12:12] <fnf> systemd0wn_: lsmod may bring up interesting info.
[12:12] <systemd0wn_> fnf: thanks
[12:12] <intelikey> Frogzoo can't be.   i emptied the dir.
[12:12] <bullgard1>  What is 'Avahi'? Synaptic: "a fully LGPL framework for Multicast DNS Service
[12:12] <bullgard1>           Discovery. It allows programs to publish and discover services and hosts running on a local
[12:12] <bullgard1>           network with no specific configuration." Why did Ubuntu install an Ethernet interface
[12:13] <Frogzoo> intelikey: I mean /var/lock - where it keeps the uucp locks
[12:13] <bullgard1>           (eth1:avahi) on my computer?
[12:13] <intelikey> Frogzoo i do too
[12:13] <intelikey> Frogzoo /var/lock/ is an empty dir
[12:13] <zoro> i have an aiglx/vnc question. how can i vnc to my machine at home, but have it spawn a standard non-aiglx session? :)
[12:13] <Frogzoo> intelikey: you belong to group 'dialout' ?
[12:14] <intelikey> see the prompt.  that was root
[12:14] <bezibaerchen> 07.03.07 [12:09:55]  < bezibaerchen> which package provides /usr/bin/mail?                                                                                _bt
[12:14] <intelikey> and yes root is in the group
[12:14] <intelikey> doesn't need to be but is.
[12:14] <arn_> hi, i have insatlled mysql in my ubuntu using apt-get, can anyone tell me where its installed?
[12:14] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  groups
[12:15] <intelikey> root daemon bin sys adm tty disk lp mail news man kmem dialout fax voice cdrom floppy sudo audio operator shadow utmp video plugdev staff games users crontab dhcp klog syslog Debian-console-log scanner messagebus ssl-cert lpadmin snort haldaemon dip guest nogroup
[12:15] <mavx> locate mysql
[12:15] <Frogzoo> intelikey: suspiciousness -> Cannot open ./dev/ttyS0    what's with the ./dev ?
[12:16] <intelikey> second test Frogzoo tried with normal /dev and also with the static devices
[12:16] <intelikey> device nodes that is.
[12:17] <kishore> ubotu: screen
[12:17] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[12:17] <lnostdal> running feisty here .. the upgrade just now keeps popping up a dialog-thing: "Incorrect nice value  Please enter an integer between -20 and 19"
[12:17] <lnostdal> anyone else seeing this?
[12:17] <intelikey> and that was prior to my actually chrooting and dialing out.   so it wasn't busy then.   not that i can tell. Frogzoo
[12:17] <lnostdal> it seems to happen at the "preconfiguring packages"-stage
[12:17] <kumelk> is java suppose to use 60% cpu and 200mb memory each time I use azureus ?
[12:18] <kumelk> or perhaps there is some other nice torrent apps out there which dont depend on java ?
[12:18] <kumelk> someone know about this java "bug" or ?
[12:19] <intelikey> one point that i should mention.  i have uninstalled all non-essential packages.  that may be the problem but i don't know what would be missing that would cause that.
[12:20] <Frogzoo> intelikey: you could try ckermit or minicom & see if you can connect
[12:21] <Frogzoo> if that works, maybe use plain pppd instead of wvdial
[12:21] <intelikey> not familear with either of those...  i'll give a look.
[12:22] <bullgard1>  What is 'Avahi'? Synaptic: "a fully LGPL framework for Multicast DNS Service Discovery. It allows programs to publish and discover services and hosts running on a local  network with no specific configuration." Why did Ubuntu install an Ethernet interface  (eth1:avahi) on my computer?
[12:22] <Frogzoo> intelikey: they're terminal emulators - you can connect to the serial port & issue hayes commands to the modem
[12:23] <intelikey> Frogzoo ok.  checking.
[12:23] <paul_world10> can I ask
[12:24] <yettenet> Can anyone send me a basic fluxbox menu file? :)
[12:24] <paul_world10> I've got a auto generated source list with dapper
[12:24] <yettenet> I'm just too damn lazy to configure it for myself
[12:24] <paul_world10> # out the universe stuff
[12:24] <paul_world10> still it freezes after 8 of 9
[12:25] <paul_world10> sorry
[12:25] <cMadman> has anyone successfully configured a powermate in edgy?
[12:25] <amorphous_> hi guys -- anyone tell me the command to find out the name of an app by pointing at the window?
[12:26] <_james> where will i get the key serial for the vmware?
[12:26] <paul_world10> kiss kiss
[12:28] <paul_world10> can I ask about my little source list issue?
[12:28] <Frogzoo> _james: the vmware player is free
[12:28] <amorphous_> or a command to kill all print queues?
[12:28] <_james> im installing the vmware server.. and it's asking for key serial.. where can i find it?
[12:29] <omeil> say does anyone know what language this is? Hier kannst Du dich fr einen Account auf Deepthought?
[12:29] <ubunutn00b> hi there, anyone know if automatix.com is removed? The site seemd to be down (404)
[12:29] <mackinac> looks german
[12:29] <JohnRobert> omeil: looks german
[12:29] <ubunutn00b> it is german
[12:29] <bimberi> _james:  you get one (or more) from the vmware websie
[12:29] <omeil> im trying to sign up for an account but can't understand the language lol
[12:29] <systemd0wn_> _james: check out where you downloaded it from on their website.  They will email it to you for free if you sign up
[12:29] <bimberi> *website
[12:30] <mackinac> omeil:  babelfish
[12:30] <_james> yeah from their website and i signed up. but the email hasn't arrived yet
[12:30] <paul_world10> vmware is nice thats what got me into dapper
[12:30] <omeil> 0_o
[12:31] <mackinac> google it
[12:31] <ubunutn00b> automatix? Anyone know anything about it? Is there a mirror somewhere?
[12:32] <amorphous_> the other approach is...
[12:32] <_james> what is the difference between vmware server and vmware player?
[12:32] <cMadman> does anyone have experience getting a griffin powermate (http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate/) to work under edgy?
[12:32] <intelikey> Frogzoo found it.   wvdial was missing some deps.   but apt-get install -f wasn't reporting any missing deps  odd
[12:32] <x2mjokada> hey guys, i just installed photoshop  using wine, but i can't find the installation directory.  Does anyone have an idea where it might be?
[12:33] <ben_underscore> _james: player is for single user desktop type stuff
[12:33] <Frogzoo> the packaging system's good, but not perfect
[12:33] <paul_world10> use nautilus or terminal and ls -a
[12:33] <omeil> say has anyone got the world forge client working? gives me a weird error on mine
[12:33] <ben_underscore> _james: ie if you wanted to run a vm of an os to test it out or something. server is for virtualising whole servers and having lots of users connect to it
[12:34] <intelikey> yeah.   tell me about not perfect.      i've had more trubble with apt than any other packageing system i have ever used.
[12:34] <ben_underscore> x2mjokada: look in your ~/.wine directory
[12:34] <kishore> #ubuntu-ap
[12:34] <intelikey> Frogzoo thanks for the heads up.   later.
[12:35] <_james> ben_underscore:  ok so vmware is better
[12:35] <ben_underscore> x2mjokada: the drive_c directory is a mock version of the windows c drive, funnily enough
[12:35] <paul_world10> vmware is cute I just got sad with the smaller screen in Ubuntu since I am dumb
[12:36] <omeil> lol
[12:36] <ben_underscore> _james: than what? it's pretty good, and you can install it in ubuntu pretty easily
[12:36] <paul_world10> its a cutey with xp its a charm
[12:36] <_james> i mean vmware server is better than vmware player
[12:36] <x2mjokada> ben_underscore, thanks man! i found it.
[12:36] <omeil> they should have made wine create the c directory in example /home/omeil/C/, kinda sucks always gotta .wine
[12:37] <ben_underscore> _james: it depends what you want to use it for ...
[12:37] <ben_underscore> x2mjokada: any time
[12:37] <paul_world10> does wine work with neverwinternights besides the startup screen?
[12:37] <jenda> A friend says he cannot write to his home partition - what's the easiest way of finding where the permission problem is?
[12:38] <Frogzoo> omeil: symlink if you must
[12:38] <paul_world10> ls -lh pop something
[12:38] <omeil> Frogzoo: i would if i could but i just odn't now how :(
[12:38] <_james> ben_underscore: can i install windows file on vmware player?
[12:38] <ikonia_> jenda check he has permissions and the partition is not full or mounted read only
[12:38] <omeil> know*
[12:38] <omeil> paul_world10: why not just download the NWN installer for linux? and run it to the maxtor :D
[12:38] <_james> ben_underscore: like i wanna play games on vmware player like dota online is that possible on vmware player?
[12:38] <paul_world10> omg omeil
[12:38] <lafiel> Hi, my setup had 2 hard drives and my ubuntu installation was on the slave.. The master has now failed. How do I recover my installation?
[12:38] <Frogzoo> omeil: ln -s ~/.wine ~/C
[12:39] <amorphous_> How can I stop a runaway printer queue? the printing docs dont show up in the gnome-cups-man printer queue?!? - this is an apt-get'ed gnome-desktop-environment from an Xubuntu install, it's printing constantly - but theres nothing in any queues i can find. I'm running out of ideas...any suggestions?
[12:39] <paul_world10> wow
[12:39] <lafiel> I'm told that I need to re setup GRUB.. I'm on the LIVE CD atm. Can somebody help me out?
[12:39] <Frogzoo> amorphous_: lpc
[12:39] <ben_underscore> _james: if you have a virtual machine running inside a vmware image, and then you run your games inside of that, then sure no problems
[12:39] <omeil> paul_world10: ?
[12:39] <paul_world10> you guys floor me I wish I could
[12:39] <amorphous_> I've tried checking queues on gnome-cups-manager, xfprint4-manager, lpq
[12:39] <ikonia_> !grub >lafiel
[12:39] <Gabz> amorphous_:  turn off the printer :P
[12:39] <omeil> ? why omg omeil? :D
[12:39] <Frogzoo> amorphous_: sry, 'cancel'
[12:40] <lafiel> thanks ikonia
[12:40] <cMadman> does anyone know how to get a Griffin Powermate working under Ubuntu Edgy please? (http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate/)
[12:40] <Frogzoo> amorphous_: cancel -a printer
[12:40] <amorphous_> Gabz, it's off - but it's needed
[12:40] <omeil> dota is a bad habit...quite annoying really:)
[12:40] <ben_underscore> _james: sorry i should also have said you'd need to install windows obviously ... however to create vm images you need to install vmware worstation ... all of which is free from vmware btw
[12:41] <ben_underscore> omeil: what's dota?
[12:41] <paul_world10> does nwn run from a special script Omeil?
[12:41] <amorphous_> Frogzoo, lpc > status says there's no entries...
[12:41] <_james> ben_underscore: what you mean? my question is, is it possible to install windows game on vmware player
[12:41] <bob_fl> i had a client with > 3000 jobs on queue and cancel queue told me not supporded on remote queues
[12:41] <Frogzoo> amorphous_: it's probably in printer memory anyhow/no longer in the queue - cancel from the printer's controls
[12:41] <Frogzoo> amorphous_: cancel -a printer
[12:41] <_james> ben_underscore:  can i install windows os on vmware server?
[12:41] <amorphous_> cancel -a printer
[12:41] <ikonia_> _jamesyes
[12:41] <ikonia_> _james yes
[12:42] <Frogzoo> amorphous_: the printer is printing from buffer memory - you'll need to reset the printer from it's control panel
[12:42] <ben_underscore> _james: all that vmware player does is provide a virtual machine so that you can install another os on top of that, just like real hardware.
[12:42] <ben_underscore> _james: if you want to install windows then sure, and then you can run games on top of that ....
[12:42] <ikonia_> _james they may run poor though
[12:42] <ben_underscore> _james: you may be able to run them under linux using wine however which is a linux port of the windows 32 binary api
[12:43] <omeil> Defence of the ancients and warcraft 3 map :D
[12:44] <omeil> paul_world10: bioware released a nwn1 installer couple of months or years ago :) its about 22 meg. just google nwn linux
[12:44] <paul_world10> I would love and cry if nwn runs in this linux box me being so sentimental.
[12:44] <omeil> it will run :)
[12:44] <_james> ben_underscore: i can run warcraft on wine but i can't run GG-client on wine ;) that's why i have to install vmware
[12:44] <omeil> hey i might just install nwn too. loved playing it online
[12:44] <ben_underscore> _james: what about cedega http://www.transgaming.com
[12:44] <_james> ben_underscore: will the games will run poor?
[12:44] <omeil> _james: whats GG?
[12:45] <ben_underscore> _james: everything will run slower as it is emulated ie: not native
[12:45] <paul_world10> its just the game I really liked
[12:45] <_james> GG is a game flatform that let you play online on warcraft counterstrike and etc.
[12:45] <omeil> oh ok
[12:45] <_james> ben_underscore:  dude what is transgaming?
[12:45] <systemd0wn_> been googlin around but cant find a good doc on patching orinoco drivers in ubuntu. the kismet docs arent working.
[12:46] <ikonia_> systemd0wn_ patching drivers will differ from distro and kernel release
[12:46] <omeil> _james: transgaming = cedega. based on the .wine engine but designed specifically for running games.
[12:46] <ben_underscore> _james: it is a company that produces software that lets you run windows games on linux - perhaps that might help you out. you have to pay for it though
[12:46] <_james> can you guys help me run GG-client on wine
[12:47] <_james> ben_underscore: kool ok i wil try it
[12:47] <systemd0wn_> ikonia_: aight, well... have any ideas on where to start?
[12:47] <ben_underscore> _james: good luck ... have a good night
[12:47] <omeil> im gonna have a look at this GGclient
[12:48] <koregaonpark> Hey, does anyone know what the minimum requirements for Edgy Eft are?
[12:48] <koregaonpark> I haven't been able to find a page with a summary of hardware requirements.
[12:48] <_james> ben_underscore: dude i think cedega is not free
[12:48] <paul_world10> whats going on with my source list updates even 'autogenerated' with universe disabled is still not cathing everything
[12:48] <xelados> When I attempt to compile Fluxbox, ./configure tells me I need the X11 headers and libraries. Is there a meta package that can install these for me?
[12:49] <ben_underscore> _james: yes, it is commercial
[12:49] <Hobbsee> xelados: xlibs-dev
[12:49] <yeti> is it possible to 'downgrade' xorg? i'm using edgy, but i have this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=298679, so i thought, maybe it would help to use dappers xorg instead. is that possible?
[12:49] <_james> ben_underscore: how can i download it?
[12:50] <omeil> _james:you have msn or yahoo.?
[12:50] <_james> omeil: yes i have yahoo only
[12:50] <ikonia_> yeti not really possible
[12:50] <omeil> _james: what is it ill add you?
[12:51] <_james> matakss <-- add me up
[12:51] <ben_underscore> _james: http://www.transgaming.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=display&file=index&ceid=29
[12:51] <koregaonpark> Um, anyone know where I can find the minimum requirements for Ubuntu Edgy Eft?
[12:52] <alexstacey> hello
[12:52] <_james> ben_underscore:  dude im there but where's the download part?
[12:52] <ikonia_> koregaonpark 128 meg ofr ram 800 meg hard disk - but thats unrealistic 256 ram and 3 gig disk is realistic
[12:52] <ikonia_> P3 800
[12:52] <paul_world10> anyone know if a us robotics 5610b will dial up on edgy eft?
[12:52] <koregaonpark> ikonia_, oh, that's it? Because I've been having some issues....
[12:52] <techie> good morning. Is there a way to copy all my firefox cookes from xp to my ubuntu browser?
[12:52] <ikonia_> paul_world10 check the hardware compatability list
[12:53] <alexstacey> anyone kow how i can get keyring manager to remember my passphrase when i scp from a terminal?
[12:53] <ikonia_> techie go into the cookies folder and swap them onto your ubuntu box
[12:53] <ben_underscore> _james: i've not done it myself but if you read the web page you'll see that you have to subscribe to their service, and subsequent to that you can download the cedega application ... beyond that i don't know any more
[12:53] <paul_world10> whats poppin with my source list ikonia
[12:53] <ikonia_> techie keep in mind a lot of cookies are hostname based so will fail
[12:53] <alexstacey> it works fine from 'connect to server...' but doesn't kick in when i'm in a terminal...=/
[12:53] <ikonia_> paul_world10 pardon ? you didn't meantion your source list
[12:53] <techie> ikonia_ thanks ikonia
[12:53] <_james> ben_underscore: yeah before you download you have to register and the registration has payment
[12:54] <paul_world10> I need some help with my dapper source list auto generated from the Ubuntu website
[12:54] <ben_underscore> _james: yep, it's commerical ... but if you ran windows you'd have to have a licence too
[12:54] <ikonia_> paul_world10 whats the problem with it ?
[12:54] <ben_underscore> _james: in theory
[12:54] <techie> ikonia_ minor detail hehe! But is a there a command for the "swapping" onro ubuntu?
[12:54] <ikonia_> techie no
[12:55] <mx-zoom> paul_world10: what's the problem with the list?
[12:55] <paul_world10> my sudo apt-get update or even gui is pausing
[12:55] <techie> ikonia_ ok. I will figure it out.
[12:55] <ikonia_> techie just copy them over
[12:55] <ikonia_> paul_world10 at what point
[12:55] <techie> ikonia_ ah! got you. thanks.
[12:55] <paul_world10> well i've got 3 different lists you know that I use sometimes I like the simple Ubuntu with no universe enamled
[12:55] <paul_world10> automatix is pausing hard
[12:56] <ikonia_> paul_world10 I don't support automatrix - sorry
[12:56] <paul_world10> can I paste my source list?
[12:56] <ikonia_> !automatrix >paul_world10
[12:56] <ikonia_> paul_world10 you can put them in a pastebin
[12:56] <techie> ikonia_ I had to go to xp last night and now I can see how very slow the xp is compared to ubuntu!!!
[12:57] <ikonia_> techie I don't think there is much of a difference, its more how its setup
[12:57] <yeti> mh okay, so does anybody know how to find out what "X Error: BadMatch   Request Major code 66 ()" means?
[12:57] <ikonia_> yeti need more info
[12:57] <techie> Ikonia_ perhaps is all the extra stuff I had on xp!
[12:57] <ikonia_> techie possibly, which is nothing to do with microsoft and more a user error
[12:58] <techie> ikonia_ I won't argue with your statement.
[12:58] <yeti> ikonia_: i'm trying to start a game (alpha centauri, one of loki's linux ports), and i get to the main menu, but then the game crashes, giving this error message.
[12:58] <ikonia_> yeti speak to loki as he did the port
[12:58] <yeti> ikonia_: several other users on ubuntuforums.org have the same problem since using edgy
[12:58] <thirdalbum> techie, often I find that Windows is slow because of anti-virus and anti-spyware software
[12:59] <yeti> ikonia_: well. it worked with dapper, so it seems it's a X problem...
[12:59] <ikonia_> yeti not nessasarrly
[12:59] <systemd0wn_> is there a doc on patching drivers in ubuntu? the way shown on the kismet website isnt working.
yes I had to remove Norton antivirus which slowed the system tremendously and replaced with paid verisons of avg and another one.
[12:59] <Greggles> Hi anyone can help me with a simple problem on Ubuntu
also i had programs which you accumulate with time that I later removed.
[01:00] <ikonia_> yeti Greggles ask the question
[01:00] <ikonia_> oosp
[01:00] <ikonia_>  Greggles ask the question
[01:00] <techie> you all have a great time, i must run.
[01:00] <techie> bye for now.
[01:00] <CokeNCode> guys
[01:01] <CokeNCode> how do i change the display setting for x
[01:01] <paul_world10> I would love to use edgy but it seems ppp config isnt working with my 5610b like dapper because pon is looking for a string in bin thats not there
[01:01] <CokeNCode> i'm getting an error saying that the display is out of range
[01:01] <CokeNCode> and i can't see anything in gui mode
[01:01] <Greggles> I have just installed Ubuntu 6.10, and managed to successfully configure a printer. All works fine when I print from Ubuntu system, but when I try and add the printer on my Windows XP Notebook, I can see my7 Ubunto machine, but cannot access the printer
[01:01] <meborc> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:01] <Frogzoo> CokeNCode: means you're trying to drive at too high a refresh rate
[01:02] <Frogzoo> CokeNCode: for starters, choose a lower resolution
[01:02] <CokeNCode> meborc thanks
[01:02] <meborc> no prob
[01:02] <CokeNCode> Frogzoo ok, thew eird thing is, it was working fine before
[01:05] <ubunutn00b1> Hi, didnt anyone know anything about Autmatix?
[01:06] <RodneyMcKay> great now my sudo stopped workin
[01:06] <RodneyMcKay> +g
[01:06] <RodneyMcKay> anyone had this before?
[01:06] <RodneyMcKay> sudo <command> does just nothing anymore
[01:06] <RodneyMcKay> stracing says something about setuid but i don't know what has to be setuid
[01:06] <RodneyMcKay> sudo itself is +s in any case
[01:07] <paul_world10> I wish I could get my repos working properly
[01:07] <RodneyMcKay> i can't configure anything without sudo here
[01:07] <RodneyMcKay> man
[01:07] <paul_world10> 10 out of 11 darn
[01:08] <ubunutn00b1> sorry my nagging, but I really need to install autmatix, or is there an alternate GUI ?
[01:08] <deadchip> right
[01:08] <deadchip> i took myself out of the sudo group
[01:08] <deadchip> damn
[01:08] <ilia> hi
[01:08] <paul_world10> maybe automatix really did mess it up
[01:08] <deadchip> is there any way to log in as root directly?
[01:08] <meborc> ubuntun00b1 - there is easy ubuntu ... whish is kind of alternative to automatix...
[01:09] <paul_world10> bummer for little paul
[01:09] <deadchip> bahh
[01:09] <deadchip> brb
[01:09] <meborc> ubuntun00b1 - http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[01:09] <paul_world10> all that dial up time getting the kernal updates
[01:10] <romeomajk> deadchip: try su -
[01:13] <ubunutn00b1> meborc thanx. I'll check it out
[01:13] <paul_world10> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg: Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[01:13] <paul_world10> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/Release.gpg
[01:13] <CokeNCode> hey guys, how do i change my refresh rate from the shell ?
[01:14] <CokeNCode> i went thru dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... but that didn't give me any refresh rate options, so my display is still borked
[01:14] <meborc> CokeNCode it should give you options to chose the best refresh rates... you need to untick the ones too big with space...
[01:15] <meborc> i have no idea why you didn't have that
[01:15] <mackinac> it does?
[01:15] <mackinac> ive never seen it
[01:15] <paul_world10> I feel like crying
[01:16] <meborc> you might try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure phigh xserver-xorg (there might be a "-" infront of phigh... i can't remember)
[01:16] <alleyoopster> paul_world10: let it out
[01:17] <paul_world10> kiss kiss to Ubuntu and darn cry about my modem and my dumb brain
[01:17] <meborc> paul_world10 - maybe try to delete the us. from the sources list and use the main servers... not the us mirrors... update the sources list and see what happens
[01:18] <meborc> aah... sry
[01:18] <meborc> you don't have internet connection?
[01:18] <CokeNCode> meborc ok, i just did htat, didn't give me the option to fill in anything, but it did rewrite my config file at the end
[01:18] <meborc> ok
[01:18] <meborc> try startx
[01:19] <paul_world10> I dial up all the time you guys
[01:19] <CokeNCode> meborc it's already started, what's the command to stop x again ?
[01:19] <paul_world10> oh man I have to cry
[01:20] <meborc> hmm... i'm sorry... my memory is really bad... something like /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:20] <meborc> maybe
[01:21] <scv> meborc,  are you using a redhat?
[01:22] <meborc> :) no...
[01:22] <meborc> as i said... my memory is worse then on my lappy
[01:22] <Lice> how do i check a file size?
[01:22] <paul_world10> did automatix really pop my updates or could a server be down I took out the us
[01:22] <scv> meborc, many other linuxes can't do that
[01:22] <romeomajk> I would try /etc/init.d/gdm-stop
[01:23] <paul_world10> I get them all it just wont get 11
[01:24] <CokeNCode> romeomajk no dice
[01:24] <phlasphy> hello
[01:24] <phlasphy> i have one question about ubunt
[01:24] <meborc> Lice - try ls -s in the directory
[01:24] <phlasphy> ubuntu
[01:24] <webmaren> i'm having a problem upgrading my system
[01:24] <webmaren> i can't install x11-common
[01:24] <CokeNCode> ok, that's enough of this
[01:24] <CokeNCode> time for a reboot
[01:25] <webmaren> it complains about a bad nice value and aborts
[01:25] <phlasphy> is ubuntu only for noobs?
[01:25] <phlasphy> or do pros use it too?
[01:25] <webmaren> !noob |phlasphy
[01:25] <ubotu> phlasphy: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[01:25] <phlasphy> i meant no offence?
[01:25] <paul_world10> if I was smart I would be like you guys
[01:25] <TMM> phlasphy: no, I'm a long-time linux/unix user and I use it
[01:25] <meborc> phlasphy - ubuntu is a debian distro... it can do whatever you like... but it is designed to be as friendly to newcomers as possible
[01:25] <Lice> meborc is that bytes or kilo bytes?
[01:25] <phlasphy> ok
[01:26] <phlasphy> ok kewl
[01:26] <webmaren> so i have a problem with my upgrade, running 7.04 herd5
[01:26] <phlasphy> brb
[01:26] <meborc> Lice - good Q... i have no idea :)... try with a file you know the size of... a movie... and see then
[01:26] <Lice> :(
[01:27] <Lice> meborc its bytes
[01:27] <Lice> or no wait..its kilobytes :O
[01:28] <meborc> Lice - try with "ls -a -l" then you get the bites... in nice order
[01:28] <webmaren> screenshot of problem: http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8379/x11commonnoinstallji1.png
[01:29] <webmaren> should i just reinstall x11-common
[01:30] <paul_world10> I wish I was smart and I didnt have to reinstall my dapper
[01:31] <ks1> webmaren, join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic.
[01:31] <riqz> Hey guys can someone help me with vmware?
[01:31] <riqz> I installed vmware and now im stuck cos i dont know what else to do
[01:33] <fong> how do i restart inetd.conf?
[01:33] <elkbuntu> riqz, there is an unofficial channel on freenode for vmware, it is #vmware. you might try there?
[01:33] <Martyo> If I install ubuntu on a hard drive with windows already installed, will the installer resize the windows partition to make room for ubuntu?
[01:33] <NET||abuse> hey all, anyone able to tell me where to go for desktop toys for gnome? like vista gadgets or osx widgets
[01:33] <webmaren> ks1, ty
[01:34] <servtec> hi
[01:34] <NET||abuse> I'm not being lame and just whoring my desktop to stupid toys, there are actually just one or two little things i would find useful.
[01:34] <kbd> NET||abuse: they are called gdesklets
[01:35] <mackinac> http://www.gdesklets.de/
[01:35] <paul_world10> I guess half way through my beginning linux book I realize something
[01:35] <paul_world10> you people really dont care much
[01:35] <NET||abuse> mackinac, kbd , thanks so much :) i'll go look
[01:35] <kbd> NET||abuse: they can be resource consuming
[01:35] <paul_world10> I wont post
[01:35] <Pici> paul_world10: huh?
[01:35] <paul_world10> I wont be here anymore
[01:35] <NET||abuse> kbd, hmm, well if they are, that's why we're here, to re-write bad coding
[01:35] <paul_world10> but i'll learn it alone
[01:35] <paul_world10> I was only here for friends
[01:35] <kbd> paul_world10: Are you going to whine any more or would you like for me to see what I can do to help you?
[01:36] <paul_world10> because I dont have many in the world and I love computers
[01:36] <NET||abuse> paul_world10, i think your missing the point a bit
[01:36] <phlasphy> whoa what is going on?
[01:36] <paul_world10> maybe I am
[01:36] <paul_world10> but I am near the end anyway with all of it
[01:36] <meborc> paul - what are you having trouble with?
[01:36] <kbd> NET||abuse: well, it depends on which ones it is really. the weather/calendar ones are not that bad. It's the fact that they use either mono or python that makes desklets a resource hog
[01:36] <NET||abuse> paul_world10, we're here because linux is a tool for a job, not because we want a social scene
[01:37] <NET||abuse> kbd, ug, mono,, is python gtk bad?
[01:37] <paul_world10> thats it i'll just say a few more and go, I wont go to school because I know your smarter than me
[01:37] <paul_world10> its ok though I pick up
[01:37] <phlasphy> ok
[01:37] <kbd> NET||abuse: nah, it's just that it's a python image running
[01:38] <kbd> NET||abuse: but that was like 2 years ago that I had problems with python desklets
[01:38] <NET||abuse> paul_world10, no we're not smarter, we've just come to terms with the workings of the world around us.. so don't be so self deprecating
[01:38] <kbd> NET||abuse: python could have sped way up since then
[01:38] <meborc> paul - what are you having trouble with?
[01:38] <NET||abuse> kbd, i'll let you know when i try them out.
[01:38] <bayziders> I am trying to burn a iso what program should I use?
[01:38] <kbd> NET||abuse: yeah, do!
[01:38] <paul_world10> I think my source list is messed
[01:38] <NET||abuse> bayle, aptitude search burn
[01:39] <NET||abuse> bayle, any of those :)
[01:39] <meborc> paul - you can recreate your sources.list file...
[01:39] <paul_world10> I dial up because I am a loser
[01:39] <phlasphy> what is a source list?
[01:39] <meborc> i'll look for the link
[01:39] <kbd> NET||abuse: I saw them in automatix but I didn't want to install them... I should see what has popped up lately. I used to use the gmail desklet alot
[01:39] <paul_world10> I have 3 in stock
[01:39] <kbd> bayziders: gnome-baker is great!
[01:39] <Arafangion> paul_world10: On the contrary, dial-up can sometimes be really, really nice for certain games, if your latency is really low.
[01:39] <paul_world10> I got an ubuntu generated
[01:39] <NET||abuse> kbd, :) automatix is BAD
[01:39] <kbd> NET||abuse: :/
[01:39] <kbd> I wish I had known this
[01:40] <PwcrLinux> bayziders: are you using windows? you can try DeepBurn it's free to burn ISOs
[01:40] <meborc> paul_world10 - try this http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[01:40] <kbd> yeah recently it has forgotten my mplayer32 install :(
[01:40] <NET||abuse> anyway, stick to manual dpkg installs or aptitude repository supplied packages
[01:40] <kbd> so I will have to manually remove it
[01:40] <NET||abuse> kbd, safer
[01:40] <bayziders> PwcrLinux: No I avoid windows, geting BSODed scares me.
[01:40] <marsh> anybody hacve the name of the app to set security settings to make an aoutomatic login at startup
[01:40] <kbd> NET||abuse: I'm on x86_64, that is not always easy to do
[01:40] <NET||abuse> :) i have the same problem on my home pc :P
[01:41] <Latitude^> howcome amarok takes time to open? is that normal?
[01:41] <meborc> paul_world10 - automatix may have added some repos... or easyubuntu... so i would suggest you create a new one from the link i gave
[01:41] <Arafangion> kbd: Just install the 32-bit version. It's easier afaik.
[01:41] <paul_world10> no I have sources saved in a text
[01:41] <NET||abuse> bloody amd 64 machines,, but keep a 32bit laptop as your main platform and run your 64bit desktop and over the next little while things are gonna improve support wise
[01:41] <PatrickBic> hi
[01:41] <PwcrLinux> bayziders: yea, older windows gets BSOD, I dumped the XP out of my lappy, I am running Ubuntu Linux 5.10
[01:41] <paul_world10> I have the source list generated one
[01:41] <anders> when trying to ./configure it says configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:41] <paul_world10> # the univers
[01:41] <Paddy_EIRE> I installed OpenOffice clipart how do I access the images
[01:41] <paul_world10> still hang on the last 7 out of 8
[01:42] <PatrickBic> how do i reinstall grub when running on the live cd atm?
[01:42] <fong> can anyone tell me where to find inetd in ubuntu?
[01:42] <Frogzoo> anders: install build-essential
[01:42] <Gabz> !acpi
[01:42] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[01:42] <anders> FredricR, thank you
[01:42] <kbd> yeah x86_64 was going to be so great... and now it is just another PITA
[01:42] <bayziders> PwcrLinux, I have os x86 ubuntu and windows tri booted on my box.
[01:42] <anders> Frogzoo, thanks
[01:42] <NET||abuse> paul_world10, go to the faq's for your release and add the various repositories that you need. your also best off finding a reliable mirror in your geographic local ;)
[01:42] <kbd> Arafangion: I should try that for mplayer actually. Good idea.
[01:42] <meborc> paul_world10 - you could "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and comment out (#) the source you are having trouble with
[01:42] <nickthorley> hi all - does anyone know about imap folders - if i create a folder called say sent items outside the inbox but within the imap account then will these be syncronised with the server
[01:43] <fong> !inetd
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <PatrickBic> !grub
[01:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:43] <meborc> fong - are you trying to look for init.d?
[01:43] <Symmetria> heh grub seems to be used by a lot of things these days
[01:43] <kbd> Don't copy that floppy!
[01:43] <Symmetria> it works well as well
[01:43] <mcquaid> if I add a user that speaks a different language and I add that language,  Do all apps automagically display in that language or does it require downloading more stuff per application?
[01:43] <meborc> !init.d
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about init.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <mcquaid> And do most apps have a translation?
[01:44] <fong> meborc, its actually inetd.. im trying to restart it, based on a guide i'm following to setup cvs
[01:44] <kbd> mcquaid: if the apps have translations they should display in the new language
[01:44] <Frogzoo> mcquaid: internationalisation gives you multi language support
[01:44] <Arafangion> kbd: I have actually wondered if it were possible to dualboot ubuntu, with 32-bit and 64-bit userlands, and shared /var, /etc and /home partitions and dualboot until support improves, though I'd personally would just manually manage my own chroot and find a pure-64-bit system, but that's just me (if I had a 64-bit system, that is!)
[01:44] <Zero9983> i installed some program using wine , how can i execute?
[01:44] <kbd> mcquaid: most highly popular gnome apps do, yeah
[01:45] <Arafangion> kbd: Though, /var could get corrupted.
[01:45] <mcquaid> thats cool
[01:45] <meborc> fong - ok... srry
[01:45] <kbd> Arafangion: yeah :/
[01:45] <Zero9983> i installed some program using wine , how can i execute?
[01:45] <meborc> fong - try "whereis" command... i have no idea if it will work though
[01:45] <kbd> Arafangion: as far as mplayer and firefox go though, binary installs of the 32 bit versions seems to go well
[01:46] <Arafangion> Zero9983: wine .~/.wine/drive_c/path/to/program
[01:46] <anders> Frogzoo, it says i need a cd-rom... why can't it just download?
[01:46] <kbd> Arafangion: I've only had trouble with the 32bit gtk
[01:46] <Frogzoo> anders: disable the cdrom as a repository
[01:46] <Arafangion> kbd: That makes sense, but I'm too tired to go into it.
[01:46] <fong> meborc, its actually not found..
[01:46] <Zero9983> Arafangion: i dont know where the program located
[01:46] <kbd> Arafangion: yeah
[01:46] <Zero9983> Arafangion: i dont know where the program located , how do i check back?
[01:47] <fong> sleeeepy
[01:47] <kbd> well, I'm off to play some tremulous :D
[01:47] <Arafangion> Zero9983: Sorry, that's the extent of our windows support. :(
[01:47] <systemd0wn_> having problems patching a driver...
[01:47] <meborc> fong - what are you trying to install?
[01:47] <Zero9983> Arafangion: but wine is under linux , i think maybe u should know
[01:47] <PatrickBic> how to install grub to boot windows?
[01:47] <kbd> oops before I do, if you are running beryl and xgl, and you press shift+backspace, does Xgl die for you too? I am getting annoyed by it... :/
[01:47] <fong> meborc, CVS.
[01:47] <systemd0wn_> i do a "patch -p1 --dry-run /patchfile.diff" and it hangs
[01:47] <systemd0wn_> any ideas?
[01:47] <meborc> fong - my eyes are weak... more coffe for me :)
[01:48] <Arafangion> meborc: How do you have your coffee?
[01:48] <fong> in a cup probably
[01:48] <kbd> ooOo yes coffee time
[01:48] <scv> now?
[01:49] <meborc> usually with a lot of milk... and sugar... so it is mostly sweet milk
[01:49] <kbd> I have mine with heavy creme and caramel syrup that usually you put on icecream
[01:49] <anders> Frogzoo, cheers that worked
[01:49] <bh> milk only :)
[01:49] <PwcrLinux> a starbucks coffee
[01:49] <Arafangion> meborc: Bleh, instant crap?
[01:49] <kbd> who has tried milk and tea?
[01:49] <meborc> probably :D
[01:49] <kbd> PwcrLinux: starbucks is not coffee
[01:49] <meborc> i have nothing else
[01:50] <scv> starbucks?
[01:50] <Latitude^> howcome amarok takes time to open? is that normal?
[01:50] <systemd0wn_> can anyone help with patching a driver?
[01:50] <PwcrLinux> kbd: yes it is, all starbucks have a coffee.. mocha and etc
[01:51] <meborc> no starbucks here in estonia
[01:51] <scv> is the name starbucks copied from the tv program?
[01:51] <Arafangion> scv: A popular US chain that sells coffee and operates as a cafe, they vary in quality but they are generally between absolute crap to a decent, but not excellent cup of coffee.
[01:51] <scv> hahaha
[01:51] <kbd> Unless you gently but forcefully agitate your coffee beans that you got from the heart of madagascar in a cool bath and lavish them over a blazing fire with essential oils from plants you've never heard of nor deserve to gaze at ... it's not coffee
[01:51] <derspankster> video card question
[01:51] <derspankster> mouse pointer is not visible
[01:51] <kbd> sorry, had to do that
[01:52] <derspankster> just a fuzzy oblong patch
[01:52] <Arafangion> kbd: I just grind my favorite bean in a conical burr grinder, and then prepare it italian style as a double-shot short black, every time.
[01:52] <OrTigaS> http://www.fugly.com/videos/7237/vista-vs-linux-ubuntu.html <--- is this true?
[01:52] <derspankster> any mouse click freezes display
[01:52] <paul_world10> cute
[01:52] <kbd> Arafangion: sounds good, I should ground my beans and boil like the french do in a pot on the stove
[01:52] <kbd> i am tired of filtered coffee
[01:52] <Arafangion> OrTigaS: If it is, it's more creative than Vista - it's a freaking *chicken* in some languages!
[01:52] <derspankster> bad card or driver issue?
[01:52] <iratik> How do i tell if a modem's line is currently off the hook - how to manually hang-up if stuck off hook via software bug ?
[01:53] <scv> vista is the future!!!
[01:53] <paul_world10> I cant work on computers because my mind is not quick enough and I get nervous around people and in classrooms
[01:53] <Arafangion> paul_world10: Learn to overclock your CPU.
[01:53] <kbd> Why is America so preoccupied with filtering EVERYTHING? We want to filter the internet, cable tv, regular tv, LIVE TV!, beer, milk, radio, and coffee!
[01:53] <scv> hahaha
[01:54] <Pici> !offtopic
[01:54] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:54] <Gabz> scv: wtf ?
[01:54] <Ars-dialog> hello everyone. i'm newbie in linux. i have newer version of some software than ununtu 6.10 has. for example i have newer version of gaim. how can i install it?
[01:54] <OrTigaS> he's funny
[01:54] <derspankster> I give up
[01:54] <OrTigaS> Ars-dialog:  its Ubuntu not ununtu :)
[01:55] <Gabz> Ars-dialog:  do you have a deb file for gaim ?
[01:55] <fong> ortigas, noypi ka?
[01:55] <kbd> Ars-dialog: if you have the .deb package you can dpkg -i packagename.deb
[01:55] <meborc> Ars-dialog - for gaim 2 beta 6 i would do it the easy way... try to find a deb. from the net... or use debuntu.org packages :)
[01:55] <OrTigaS> fong:  yyes
[01:55] <Arafangion> Ars-dialog: A deb file for Ubuntu 6.10, that is, not debian or fiesty :)
[01:55] <deadchip> is it recommendable to upgrade to Feisty (if you somewhat-know what you're doing) ?
[01:55] <OrTigaS> sorry  a little drunk :)
[01:55] <Ars-dialog> i don't have deb file :(
[01:56] <kbd> deadchip: it's not released yet, so probably no
[01:56] <Ars-dialog> is it the only way to install it?
[01:56] <deadchip> mm heh well
[01:56] <kbd> deadchip: don't be a hero
[01:56] <kbd> :)
[01:56] <deadchip> i used to install FC previously at Test 3 stage
[01:56] <deadchip> heh
[01:56] <deadchip> true
[01:56] <deadchip> 6.10 works well enough so, there is no real need
[01:56] <fong> ortigas, long time user of ubuntu?
[01:56] <deadchip> i'd just like to use Xorg 7.2
[01:56] <jasondotgnu> my feisty was broken in today's update, when run apt-get upgrade, it always prompt a error about wrong nice value on setup x11-common, any one can help??
[01:56] <deadchip> whcih btw is prolly another question
[01:56] <deadchip> is there Xorg 7.2 available for Edgy?
[01:56] <kbd> I am on Edgy and X is horribly unstable for certain reasons I do not know
[01:56] <Ars-dialog> can you give a link to some manuals about installing applications?
[01:56] <OrTigaS> fong just user but not long :)
[01:56] <deadchip> kbd: is it 7.1.1 or 7.2?
[01:56] <Gabz> Ars-dialog:  nope but it's the easiest way
[01:57] <Pici> jasondotgnu: try in #ubuntu+1
[01:57] <OrTigaS> still learning things
[01:57] <jasondotgnu> thanks Pici
[01:57] <deadchip> the one thing that interests me on 7.2 are possible/potential (profit?? LOL) improvements for beryl/compiz/etc/alike WMs
[01:57] <OrTigaS> and i like it
[01:57] <dreamerdude> There is 2 package managers in ubuntu right? synaptics and another one. what was the other?
[01:57] <meborc> deadchip - maybe a separate partition to test feisty... the herd 5 is stable enough for me... upgrade from earlier versions is still a bit tricky... depending on your system and soft you have installed
[01:57] <Arafangion> kbd: Using any commercial drivers?
[01:57] <kbd> deadchip: 7.1.1
[01:57] <kbd> Arafangion: fglrx
[01:57] <deadchip> kbd: ok
[01:57] <deadchip> ah
[01:57] <meborc> dreamerdude - synaptics is a GUI for apt
[01:57] <deadchip> fglrx is
[01:57] <Arafangion> kbd: That's why :)
[01:57] <deadchip> realy
[01:57] <deadchip> really
[01:57] <deadchip> really
[01:57] <deadchip> really
[01:58] <Gabz> Ars-dialog: if there is no deb file you have to complie it how this works depends on the program
[01:58] <deadchip> (no my key is not stuck)
[01:58] <deadchip> lol
[01:58] <kbd> Arafangion: user switching is broken
[01:58] <deadchip> really bad
[01:58] <deadchip> yeah
[01:58] <deadchip> kbd: you can not VT switch with fglrx
[01:58] <deadchip> it will just crash
[01:58] <dreamerdude> yeah. but im sure there was another one....started with dg i think
[01:58] <kbd> worked fine on dapper :/
[01:58] <deadchip> seriously do yourself a favour and buy an nvidia card
[01:58] <deadchip> :|
[01:58] <deadchip> that's what i did
[01:58] <deadchip> lol
[01:58] <kbd> deadchip: This is a laptop :/
[01:58] <OrTigaS> hi! why my jre still not working :( ..... i did install
[01:58] <deadchip> i am selling my radeon 9800 now
[01:58] <Pici> !enter > deadchip
[01:58] <deadchip> kbd: aah :|
[01:58] <Arafangion> kbd: Try older versions or newer versions, or even the very latest versions as they get released.
[01:58] <deadchip> Pici: :P i will refrain from now on
[01:59] <deadchip> ok let's see 7.2 for edgy
[01:59] <Arafangion> kbd: Then, the moment you find the version that works, burn it to a CD, and NEVER USE ANY OTHER VERSION!
[01:59] <kbd> deadchip: can't wait until the interchangeable sockets become standard
[01:59] <Pici> deadchip: I have no issues with fglrx and my ati based laptop
[01:59] <deadchip> hmm
[01:59] <kbd> Arafangion: hehe :)
[01:59] <Arafangion> Pici: You're lucky, that's all it comes down to.
[01:59] <deadchip> Pici: well i had the same issues as kbd
[01:59] <deadchip> also the nvidia drivers are far better for beryl/compiz like WMs
[01:59] <kbd> yes they are
[01:59] <Arafangion> As for me, if I use bigdesktop, all my opengl widgets get shifted 2" to the right.
[01:59] <deadchip> 32 Xv ports
[01:59] <kbd> deadchip: fortunately I am only borrowing this laptop
[02:00] <deadchip> indirect rendering is also properly embedded into the entire desktop and effeects
[02:00] <deadchip> kbd: heh
[02:00] <systemd0wn_> anyone be able to help patching orinoco drivers?
[02:00] <Arafangion> kbd: If you do not need bigdesktop or accelerated graphics, I recommend just using the free drivers, it's easier.
[02:00] <kbd> I think I should get some tremulous in now before I start todays work
[02:00] <kbd> Arafangion: I do need the accelerated graphics :/
[02:01] <Arafangion> kbd: Also ensure that standby works, that was broken until the VERY latest ati driver.
[02:01] <kbd> Arafangion: I do have the last version of the driver I used though, I will go back to that tonight
[02:01] <kbd> Arafangion: know the number ? 33?
[02:02] <Arafangion> kbd: Well, standby still crashes sometimes, but it _usually_ works.  It's number 8.34.8  8.33.6 is broken.
[02:02] <kbd> aha!
[02:02] <kbd> awesome
[02:02] <Arafangion> kbd: I don't do user switching, though.
[02:02] <kbd> yeah
[02:03] <kbd> Seacrest out!
[02:04] <matej> howto make a keyboard shortcut for SHOW DESKTOP?
[02:06] <deadchip> matej: try ctrl+d
[02:06] <deadchip> err
[02:06] <deadchip> ctrl+alt+d
[02:06] <deadchip> works here
[02:06] <deadchip> may be just on beryl though
[02:06] <deadchip> otherwise settings -> keyboard shortcuts
[02:07] <meborc> ctrl+alt+d works for xubuntu too by default
[02:08] <VgY> hello
[02:08] <AlexC_> hi
[02:09] <yomm> Anyone here mounting samba shares with a script after boot mind sharing with me how it's done ? I tried fstab , but allthough everything mount fine with mount -a , the shares won't automatically mount after reboot ...
[02:09] <Arafangion> yomm: I'm going to bed, but take a look at /etc/fstab
[02:09] <oggy> hmm
[02:09] <oggy> starts compiling
[02:11] <yomm> Arafangion : Goodnight ! tried fstab , but they just won't mount after reboot ..
[02:15] <BlackJack> anybody knows any opensync plugin for ipod?
[02:17] <eyalw> i compile a simple code (gcc -Wall -c hello.c -o helloBin) and it comes out not binary. and with no execute premissions ?
[02:20] <TVL|Wyvern> hi, how do I mount an NTFS-partition with read/write access?
[02:21] <abusa1> hello
[02:21] <paul_world10> cute and I am dumb
[02:21] <OrTigaS> hello too
[02:21] <paul_world10> good ridance
[02:21] <fotoflo> how do i use apt-get to find out which version of a package i have installed?
[02:22] <OrTigaS> Wyvern_: install ntfs-3g
[02:22] <Wyvern_> I tried that, but I can't find it on apt-get
[02:22] <abusa1> how would it help me to mount NTFS-partition?
[02:23] <andios> ubuntu broked my windows installation
[02:24] <ikonia_> andios doubtful, as ubuntu doesn't touch your windows data
[02:24] <Wyvern_> where can i get the ntfs-3g binary then, if it's not availible in the standard repositories?
[02:24] <OrTigaS> Wyvern_: if you installed ntfs-3g
[02:24] <ikonia_> !ntfs-3g >Wyvern_
[02:24] <andios> ikonia_: i created new partition for ubuntu, now windows boots right to some kinda of BSoD
[02:24] <abusa1> what does it mean to mount NTFS-partition?
[02:24] <OrTigaS> sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS  <--type this
[02:24] <OrTigaS>
[02:24] <Wyvern_> i'm _trying_ to install it, but the package is not found...
[02:25] <OrTigaS> whats is the error?
[02:25] <ikonia_> andios you may have changed the disk layout to a point where it effects windows, but the windows data is untouched by ubuntu
[02:25] <Wyvern_> E: Couldn't find package ntfs-3g
[02:25] <ikonia_> Wyvern_ what is the command you are using
[02:25] <OrTigaS> see i'm newbie... but i can help a little :)
[02:25] <Wyvern_> apt-get install ntfs-3g
[02:25] <OrTigaS> sudo apt-get ntfs-3g
[02:25] <ikonia_> Wyvern_ have you searched the repo for the correct package name
[02:25] <OrTigaS> add sudo :P
[02:25] <Wyvern_> i'm root ^^
[02:25] <scv> ...
[02:25] <OrTigaS> how???
[02:25] <andios> ikonia_: I havent broke it, I just installed ubuntu and booted several times
[02:25] <ikonia_> Wyvern_ search the repo for the correct name
[02:26] <ikonia_> andios great, so there is no problem
[02:26] <Wyvern_> apt-cache search ntfs, returned with only "ntfsprogs"
[02:26] <Wyvern_> which sounds vague
[02:26] <OrTigaS> root@root# ?
[02:26] <andios> ikonia_: there is
[02:26] <ikonia_> Wyvern_ so either you don't have the right repo's enabled or its not in the repo
[02:26] <UB`> Wyvern_ add the universe and multiverse repository
[02:27] <Wyvern_> wanna tell me how to add those repositories then?
[02:27] <mavx> Wyvern_, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[02:27] <ikonia_> Wyvern_ wiki has info on how to add repo's
[02:27] <OrTigaS> why my jre wont work???? :)
[02:27] <Wyvern_> ok
[02:28] <OrTigaS> someone walk me through?
[02:28] <ikonia_> OrTigaS what are you trying to do and whats the error
[02:28] <fotoflo> how do i use apt-get to find out which version of a package i have installed?
[02:28] <OrTigaS> seems ok when i installed
[02:28] <ikonia_> fotoflo dpkg -l
[02:28] <asaup> hello
[02:29] <UB`> fotoflo use dpkg -l |grep <pack>
[02:29] <OrTigaS> but the link i want to open wont work
[02:29] <ikonia_> OrTigaS I'll ask the question again. What are you trying to do and whats the problem
[02:29] <asaup> can anyone explain to me how it is possible when i am not downloading
[02:29] <fotoflo> cool thakns
[02:29] <OrTigaS> i said i want to open a link but in wont work
[02:29] <asaup> that my disk space goes to 0 mb
[02:29] <ikonia_> OrTigaS define won't link and what space
[02:29] <asaup> in front of my eyes
[02:29] <asaup> ??
[02:29] <ikonia_> asaup check /var/archives for backups
[02:30] <asaup> ok thanx
[02:30] <UB`> asaup check also for beagle log in ~/.beagle
[02:30] <asaup> ok
[02:30] <asaup> thanx
[02:31] <eyalw> i compile a simple code (gcc -Wall -c hello.c -o helloBin) and it comes out not binary. and with no execute premissions ?
[02:31] <OrTigaS> "add'l plugins are required to display  all the media on this page"  <--- thats the error
[02:31] <ikonia_> eyalw run file against the output and tell me what it says
[02:31] <UB`> and you can install baobab to analyze the disk and find where it is full
[02:31] <OrTigaS> http://www.goes.noaa.gov/guam/guamloops/guamircolor.html  ,--- heres the link
[02:32] <asaup> i have in var/backups some files called dpkg.status.1.gz and so on
[02:32] <ikonia_> asaup are they big ?
[02:32] <eyalw> bash: ./app: Permission denied
[02:32] <asaup> can i delete them without any problem??
[02:32] <eyalw> ikonia_: bash: ./app: Permission denied
[02:32] <ikonia_> eyalw thats not what I asked you to do. I asked you to run "file" against the output of gcc
[02:32] <asaup> no they are small
[02:32] <eyalw> ikonia_: ha, ok
 <ikonia_> eyalw run file against the output and tell me what it says
[02:33] <ikonia_> asaup probably not it - run du -h and look for big dirs
[02:33] <eyalw> ikonia_: ./app: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
[02:33] <ikonia_> asaup do that from the root file system
[02:33] <ikonia_> eyalw right - so it is a 32bit executable file
[02:33] <ikonia_> so ls -la /app
[02:33] <ikonia_> oops
[02:33] <asaup> ok
[02:33] <ikonia_> eyalw so ls -la app
[02:33] <asaup> i have to do
[02:33] <asaup> run du -h
[02:33] <asaup> ??
[02:34] <ikonia_> asaup du -h . from the root file system
[02:34] <asaup> ok
[02:35] <eyalw> ikonia_: -rw-r--r-- 1 eyalw eyalw 964 2007-03-07 15:35 app
[02:35] <asaup> in the end of the output i found a 21 gb
[02:35] <asaup> but it is only a .
[02:35] <ikonia_> eyalw its not executable
[02:36] <ikonia_> asaup what ?
[02:36] <asaup> in the end
[02:36] <ikonia_> what ?
[02:36] <asaup> i see 21g
[02:36] <eyalw> yes, but why? when i compiled before, it was executable from the start
[02:36] <asaup> and a .
[02:36] <ikonia_> asaup do that command and look for big files, pipe it through | more if you have to
[02:36] <ikonia_> eyalw maybe the umask of the dir you are in
[02:36] <ikonia_> eyalw just change its permissions
[02:37] <eyalw> ikonia_: bash: ./app: cannot execute binary file
[02:37] <ikonia_> eyalw I know - you've showed me that and I've told you the problem
[02:37] <fotoflo> hey is there a way to make XMMC play lots of formats? like m4a and aac and wma?
[02:37] <eyalw> ikonia_: i know, i changed the premission...
[02:37] <ikonia_> fotoflo if you install the codecs it will play most
[02:38] <ikonia_> eyalw show me the permissions
[02:38] <eyalw> ikonia_: i -rwxr-xr-x 1 eyalw eyalw 964 2007-03-07 15:35 app
[02:38] <fotoflo> ikonia, is there a big ole codec package?
[02:38] <ikonia_> fotoflo no - lots ot little ones
[02:38] <ikonia_> eyalw run file against app again
[02:39] <eyalw> ikonia_: app: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
[02:39] <ikonia_> eyalw now show me uname -a
[02:39] <iltomee> X wont start, I have to install the nvidia kernel modul each time i reboot, I just installed some updates, im still using breazy, can someone help
[02:39] <eyalw> ikonia_: Linux EWPC 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:39] <fotoflo> ikonia, how do i get m4a ? and wma?
[02:39] <ikonia_> fotoflo search the wiki
[02:39] <ikonia_> eyalw run ldd file and put the output in a pastebin
[02:39] <fotoflo> ikonia, which one?
[02:40] <ikonia_> fotoflo the ubuntu wiki
[02:40] <ikonia_> why google - its mentioned in the topic of the channel
[02:40] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows how to use multiple lines in a Xchat2 user command?
[02:40] <eyalw> ikonia_:         not a dynamic executable
[02:40] <Zaggynl> I tried with newlines characters, but no luck, the lines just gets cut off there
[02:41] <iltomee> hi, can someone help: X wont start, I have to install the nvidia kernel modul each time i reboot, I just installed some updates, im still using breazy, can someone help
[02:41] <IdleOne> !wma > fotoflo
[02:41] <ikonia_> eyalw I see - looks like its staticly linked against things that are not there
[02:41] <ikonia_> iltomee what is the error
[02:41] <eyalw> ikonia_: i used include stdio.h
[02:41] <ikonia_> eyalw so ?
[02:42] <eyalw> ikonia_: i dont know...
[02:42] <ikonia_> eyalw try ##c channel see if they will walk you through it as this is ubuntu support
[02:42] <iltomee> ikonia: failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel modul
[02:42] <ikonia_> eyalw I've given you the problem - you just need to work out how to resolve it
[02:42] <ikonia_> iltomee are you using the nvidia-glx package
[02:43] <surabaya> oi....
[02:43] <eyalw> ikonia_: how is it linked?
[02:43] <iltomee> ikonia: no, iam not
[02:43] <ikonia_> iltomee so where are you getting the nvidia module  ?
[02:43] <eyalw> ikonia_: its an helloWorld app : )
[02:44] <ikonia_> eyalw join ##c and debug in there
[02:44] <eyalw> k
[02:44] <eilker> aftes upgrading to edgy, splash texts are so small, anyone knows solution ?
[02:44] <iltomee> ikonia: i got a driver from the nvidia's site, which worked until the last ubuntu update, it is in /usr/src/nvidia
[02:45] <ikonia_> iltomee use the ubuntu packages - that way you know you'll get compatability
[02:45] <OrTigaS> what is the java-linux latest version?
[02:45] <ikonia_> OrTigaS look in the repo
[02:46] <OrTigaS> okay.. look look look
[02:46] <iltomee> ikonia: its quite complicated why, but i would still like to stick to the official kernel modul, any suggestions?
[02:47] <ikonia_> iltomee use the ubuntu repo's versions - thats my suggestion
[02:47] <iltomee> ikonia: all right, thx
[02:49] <amar> !upgrading firefox
[02:49] <ikonia_> amar use the firefox versions in the repo's
[02:50] <amar> ikonia_: in repo's i can find only 1.5........ i wanna upgrade it to 2.0
[02:50] <ikonia_> amar why ?
[02:50] <ikonia_> amar if you use packages outside of the repo's you risk breaking you system dependencies
[02:50] <eyalw> ikonia_: it was an object file...
[02:51] <ikonia_> eyalw super
[02:51] <ikonia_> eyalw well done
[02:51] <eyalw> ikonia_: thanks for the help
[02:51] <ikonia_> eyalw you did it on your own, well done
[02:54] <UB`> amar dist-upgrade to Feisty if you want FF 2.0
[02:54] <ikonia_> UB` or edgy
[02:54] <Pici> UB`: Could you please not suggest that, Fiesty is not released at this time
[02:55] <gordonjcp> ikonia_: indeed
[02:55] <UB`> sprry I wanna say Edgy, lapsus
[02:56] <amar_> !upgrade firefox
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upgrade firefox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <dyrne> amar: just download firefox from mozilla website and unpack it move it to your /home/user/ directory and change the launcher link on your taskbar.  basically just tar xfvz firefox.tar.gz; mv directory/ ~/
[02:57] <dyrne> amar: i wouldnt mess with repo version might cause more problems than its worth if you mess it up
[02:57] <amar_> dyrne: can u plz explain me abt launcher link??
[02:58] <ikonia_> amar_ I'll say it again - use the ubuntu repo's if you don't know what your doing, if you do know what you're doing you wouldn't be asking ubotu what to do. You risk breaking your system dependencies
[02:58] <eilker> aftes upgrading to edgy, splash texts are so small, anyone knows solution ?
[02:58] <eilker> how can make it bigger ?
[02:58] <Other`> hello
[02:59] <amar_> ikonia: i'm just experimenting dude....... even if it breaks, i don't mind to install it again...
[02:59] <dyrne> amar_: i havent used gnome in a while but i believe you should be able to right click on the firefox button and change the path to the executable from firefox to /home/username/firefox/firefox
[02:59] <Other`> how to burn iso image under ubuntu 6.06 livecd?
[02:59] <ikonia_> amar_ good luck then
[02:59] <kishore> ubotu: screen
[02:59] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[02:59] <mono> Help! I can't write a mixed-mode CD. k3b doesn't work :'(
[02:59] <amar_> dyrne: i have done dat already....... but it didn't work.....??
[03:00] <Frogzoo> Other`: do you have a cd reader + cd burner?
[03:00] <UB`> Other` you need a cd burner different then the cd reader you use with the live cd
[03:00] <Other`> yes
[03:00] <ikonia_> amar_ experiment
[03:00] <Other`> i have
[03:00] <ikonia_> amar_ doesn't matter if you break it - just play around
[03:00] <Other`> UB` so ? :P
[03:01] <amar_> ikonia: otherwise we can't learn....... rite??? BTW i'm newbie to linux world
[03:01] <Frogzoo> Other`: cool, you should be able to boot with the cd in the readonly drive, right click the iso file & burn
[03:01] <ikonia_> amar_ great, so get playing
[03:01] <asaup> ikonia i cant find the problem
[03:01] <asaup> and i am now in 0 mb
[03:01] <Other`> hmm
[03:01] <Other`> maybe "D
[03:01] <Other`> ;D
[03:01] <asaup> of space
[03:01] <UB`> Other` so I think you cannot with same cd reader/burner
[03:01] <Other`> i don't try it :P
[03:01] <Other`> thx cu
[03:01] <asaup> any other idea ??
[03:01] <mono> Does anyone know how to write mixedmode cds?
[03:01] <amar_> ikonia: thanx : )
[03:02] <ikonia_> asaup du -h shows you all the files on the machine and their size - either look for massive files or lots of little ones in the same dir
[03:02] <ikonia_> asaup I can't help you search your file systems - only you can look
[03:02] <ikonia_> asaup are you using a bittorrent client ?
[03:02] <n0rus> How do I create a directory that will not be accessible by root? I have created a regular account. Created a directory. Set the permisions to 700 but it's still accessible by root
[03:02] <asaup> i saw
[03:02] <asaup> but no result
[03:02] <ikonia_> n0rus you can't
[03:02] <ikonia_> n0rus root owns everything
[03:02] <n0rus> how come it works in debian then?
[03:03] <cwill1> I've got a fresh edgy install, console only.   When the computer boots, the network is configured, but it doesn't work.  If I then ifconfig it with the same configuration, it'll start working.  ifconfig eth0 has exactly the same output before and after though.  What gives?!
[03:03] <ikonia_> n0rus no it doesn't
[03:03] <n0rus> ikonia_, yes it does
[03:03] <Frogzoo> n0rus: you can't lock root out
[03:03] <grim76> I am attempting to use hosts.deny to block access to the daemon vsftpd.  Unfortunately it is not allowing me to block access it seems as though vsftpd is ignoring the hosts.deny file anyone know if this is true or if there is something that I am doing wrong?
[03:03] <flake> how do I grep to see if i have php installed
[03:03] <n0rus> Frogzoo: you need a proof?
[03:03] <cwill1> n0rus: yes :)
[03:03] <ikonia_> n0rus wouldn't mind
[03:04] <n0rus> one sec
[03:04] <n0rus> Where can I paste?
[03:04] <ikonia_> flake dpkg -l | grep -i php
[03:04] <ikonia_> n0rusin in a pastebin please
[03:04] <cwill1> n0rus: make sure it's actually user 0, not just a normal user called root
[03:04] <n0rus> ok
[03:04] <flake> ty
[03:05] <Wyvern_> any way to get some kind of "progress bar" or percentage when copying large amounts of data with cp in a shell?
[03:05] <mono> Does anyone know how to write mix mode cds?
[03:05] <ikonia_> Wyvern_ not for cp - but for things like rsync yes
[03:05] <cwill1> Wyvern_: scp gives one I believe
[03:05] <UB`> cp -v
[03:05] <ikonia_> Wyvern_ scp too
[03:06] <Wyvern_> ah
[03:06] <Wyvern_> you can scp from yourself, to yourself?
[03:06] <Wyvern_> smart.
[03:06] <mono> k3b just sits there checking data, not starting the write
[03:06] <nickthorley> hi all - i would like to have a server download mail from 20 pop boxes and presume fetchmail is the best tool for this - however how would i get around the problem of one of the mail users downloading a large mail and the users lower than this in the list being stopped from downloading mails until the first has finished
[03:06] <Vilhelms> Hey, I'm having an issue where 1 out of 3 boots it crashes in the middle of booting and I can't figure out how to debug the problem. If I boot in recovery mode it always seems to boot fine, but sometimes it just crashes about 1/4 of the way on the progress bar without any error or display. It just stops doing anything. Could anyone point me as to where I could find logs or something to help debug the problem? I tried looking online but couldn't find anythi
[03:06] <Vilhelms> ng :(
[03:07] <ikonia_> nickthorley fetchmail gets all mail in the config - then the users get mail from your box
[03:07] <Chaps> up all night with a new Cing LG and BT ;~
[03:07] <asaup> is sshd a backup tool
[03:07] <Chaps> ?help? - will this be easier with Edgy - cause I have a 6.06 disk???
[03:07] <ikonia_> asaup no
[03:07] <asaup> ok
[03:07] <cwill1> sshd is a commandline remote access tool
[03:07] <nickthorley> ikonia_: i understand how it works but if the config has 30 users - is there a way to prevent one user holding up the rest if a large mail is being received
[03:08] <ikonia_> nickthorley spawn more than one fetchmail
[03:08] <cwill1> Vilhelms: boot it up normally, except change the boot line:  get rid of splash and quiet
[03:08] <uber_newb> hello fellows, trying to set up a 32bit chroot environment in ubuntu edgy using the following howto"http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575&highlight=32+bit+chroot", i get to step 5 and when i try to execute dchroot -d i get the following message "E: default: Chroot not found"
[03:08] <nickthorley> ikonia_: is that possible to run many versions of fetchmail at once
[03:08] <ikonia_> uber_newb you don't have the chroot command in your path - or you're not specifing the chroot path to chroot into
[03:08] <ikonia_> nickthorley no idea
[03:09] <n0rus> pastebin is quite overloaded. here's on my sevrer: http://deformica.com/tmp/debian.txt
[03:09] <Chaps> can't even pair them ?!!?
[03:09] <asaup> is postmaster a backup tool
[03:09] <asaup> ??
[03:09] <Vilhelms> cwill1: Alright, I will try that. Thanks :)
[03:09] <cwill1> !backup
[03:09] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[03:09] <cwill1> asaup: ^^^^
[03:09] <ikonia_> asaup no
[03:10] <ikonia_> asaup forget backup tools and look for the large files !
[03:10] <Wyvern_> actually, "scp file location" copied the file, but without any kind of progress bar. :(
[03:10] <ikonia_> Wyvern_ you need flags
[03:10] <ikonia_> potentially
[03:10] <cwill1> Wyvern_: that -v option might have been what you're looking for
[03:10] <uber_newb> /usr/bin/dchroot -d
[03:10] <uber_newb>  gives me garbage too
[03:10] <ikonia_> uber_newb dchroot ?
[03:11] <ikonia_> uber_newb gives you garabage
[03:11] <cwill1> has anyone ever heard of ifup kinda-not-really bringing a network interface up?
[03:11] <ikonia_> uber_newb if you can't be boethered disscussing the problem in detail, I can't be bothered helping
[03:11] <cwill1> ifconfig shows it being configured,
[03:11] <Wyvern_> actually, cp -v works just as fine as scp -v
[03:11] <uber_newb> what the heck ikonia...
[03:11] <cwill1> but it doesn't actually work until I ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> up
[03:11] <ikonia_> cwill1 use mii-tool or something like that to see the status
[03:11] <Chaps> help with drake BT - Cing. gprs - or even pairing???
[03:12] <Wyvern_> but thanks anyway :)
[03:12] <uber_newb> here's the howto i'm using, "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575&highlight=32+bit+chroot"
[03:12] <n0rus> so, any ideas?
[03:12] <ikonia_> uber_newb "gives me garbage" - how can we debug your problem from that
[03:12] <cwill1> ikonia_:  sweet, thanks, I'll try that
[03:12] <ikonia_> Wyvern_ yes cwill1 suggested that, I had no idea it exited in cp
[03:12] <uber_newb> e: default: Chroot not found, is the response
[03:12] <ikonia_> uber_newb and what is the command you're using
[03:13] <ikonia_> (pay attention to captial letters)
[03:13] <uber_newb> dchroot -d
[03:13] <Wyvern_> too bad the nice progress bar you get when scp'ing to a remote host doesn't work locally tho. :(
[03:13] <Onimae> I just set up a home partition and now whenever I boot, the startup process "/scripts/top" or some such takes an eternity. Anyone else have this problem?
[03:13] <ikonia_> Onimae /scripts /top ?
[03:13] <Onimae> Something like that.
[03:14] <ikonia_> Onimae get exact details if you want help
[03:14] <soundray> Wyvern_: if you use 'localhost:/path/' as the target, scp will behave as if it was copying to a remote host.
[03:14] <Onimae> -_-
[03:14] <cwill1> ikonia_:  mii-tool and mii-diag gives exactly the same output after ifup eth0 and ifconfig'ing manually, but the interface only works after the manual ifconfig
[03:14] <Wyvern_> ..yeah, just thought of that. :)
[03:14] <ikonia_> cwill1 thats very strange
[03:14] <cwill1> I'll say
[03:14] <ikonia_> cwill1 try runing the network init script manually and see how that behaves
[03:14] <asaup> when i make the du -h command the last size that i see is the total space of the folder or of one file
[03:15] <asaup> ??
[03:15] <cwill1> i.e., /etc/init.d/networking?
[03:15] <ikonia_> asaup I've told you - pipe it through more ( | more ) and read the output
[03:15] <ikonia_> cwill1 yeah
[03:15] <asaup> how can i do this more
[03:15] <soundray> asaup: total
[03:15] <asaup> ??
[03:15] <ikonia_> asaup I've told you 3 times
[03:15] <ikonia_> asaup you're on your own
[03:15] <asaup> i am soory
[03:15] <Onimae> Ikonia: The line from the boot screen is "Running /scripts/init-top"
[03:15] <ikonia_> Onimae what version of ubuntu
[03:16] <Wyvern_> this is odd tho... I'm copying _locally_ at a speed of 8 MB/s
[03:16] <ikonia_> Onimae as I'm not aware of any /scripts dir
[03:16] <Onimae> Ikonia: Edgy
[03:16] <ikonia_> Onimae must be something to do with upstart
[03:16] <ikonia_> Onimae I'm not really on top of upstart at the moment
[03:16] <IdleOne> asaup, du -h | more
[03:16] <soundray> ikonia_: mind if I pm you?
[03:16] <ikonia_> !upstart >Onimae
[03:16] <ikonia_> soundray sure
[03:16] <ikonia_> soundray I'm on a dodgy client so it scrolls fast so I may ask you to repeate
[03:17] <eilker> Segmentation fault kiba-dock , any experience ?
[03:17] <eilker> edgy here
[03:18] <cwill1> ikonia_:  /etc/init.d/networking restart didn't do anything differently (no errors either);  I did notice that it calls ifup and ifdown internally though
[03:18] <uber_newb> i feel dumb now... it wasn't installed
[03:18] <uber_newb> phew... 3 hours wasted
[03:18] <Afroman> Hello folks
[03:18] <Afroman> I have a question
[03:18] <cwill1> ikonia_:  I do have to nics in that machine;  the one I'm leaving unconfigured, but do you think there's a chance it's somehow getting the two confused?
[03:18] <cwill1> to=two
[03:18] <ikonia_> cwill1 sorry - one moment
[03:19] <cwill1> np
[03:19] <cwill1> thanks for the help :)
[03:19] <Chaps> help BT in drake ne1?!
[03:19] <Afroman> What's the difference between kubuntu, edubuntu or xubuntu?
[03:19] <IdleOne> !ask | Afroman
[03:19] <ubotu> Afroman: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:19] <IdleOne> Afroman, the window manager
[03:19] <IdleOne> kubuntu=kde xubuntu=xfce
[03:20] <Afroman> so the interface is different?
[03:20] <IdleOne> yes
[03:20] <ks1> IdleOne, the desktop environment you mean :)
[03:20] <IdleOne> ks1, yeah whatever
[03:20] <IdleOne> "P
[03:20] <eilker> Segmentation fault in  kiba-dock , any experience ?
[03:20] <Chaps> did i mention i was trying to do it off the live cd - guess i have to actually format a drive?
[03:21] <Chaps> i just cant get the box to enter the code i set as I pair from the phone
[03:21] <IdleOne> Afroman, if you have a old machine I suggest xubuntu if your machine is new and fast try out kde I prefer good old ubuntu with gnome
[03:22] <Chaps> can I just stick a code in some .file for good ?
[03:22] <andios> hey
[03:22] <andios> my boot-sector has blown up
[03:22] <ikonia_> cwill1 be with you in a minute or so
[03:23] <andios> grub has dissapeared
[03:23] <IdleOne> andios, that's gotta hurt
[03:23] <andios> can i fix it
[03:23] <IdleOne> !grub | andios
[03:23] <ubotu> andios: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:23] <Chaps> am i just in lag-hell?
[03:23] <IdleOne> Chaps, no
[03:23] <andios> i installed windows first and then ubuntu
[03:23] <cwill1> ikonia_: np, I'm just trying stuff
[03:23] <IdleOne> Chaps, try keeping your questions in one line with all relevant info
[03:23] <Chaps> thanks - ill just do drugs and wait my turn
[03:24] <Chaps> live cd - drake - BT usb (kensington) ---to LG phone (Cing) ? one line
[03:24] <IdleOne> !offtopic | Chaps
[03:24] <ubotu> Chaps: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:24] <patrick_> has anyone connected a creative zen v to their ubuntu machine?
[03:24] <patrick_> i cant get mine to work with gnomad2
[03:24] <IdleOne> Chaps, would also help if you made some sense and not assume that we have any idea what you are talking about
[03:25] <omeil> wow 1030 users :)
[03:25] <IdleOne> omeil, yeah it's slow today
[03:25] <IdleOne>
[03:25] <Chaps> ok ok - Im out of order - I want to pair my ubuntu box to a BT phone
[03:25] <derspankster> I've connected a Creative MuVo
[03:25] <CheshireViking> patrick_, I've not used a "zen v", but I am able to connect my "Nomad III" using gnomad2
[03:25] <soundray> omeil: next month after the release, we will top 1400
[03:26] <omeil> nice
[03:27] <omeil> say how do i change my colour? from 32bit to 24?
[03:27] <patrick_> CheshireViking : yeah gnomad2 isnt made for the zen v but ive read online on a few forms that people have done it, yet i cant seem to get it to work correctly...when i plug the zen v in ubuntu doesnt recognize it
[03:27] <cwill1> ikonia_: nvm;  still don't have it solved, but the weirdness is gone:  the default route is some weird localnet instead of <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:27] <omeil> can't seem to find the area to change it
[03:27] <devilsadvocate> how can i increase my mouse pointer speed
[03:27] <knovak> Can anyone help me get my microphone input to work in Edgy? (SB Audigy using CA0106)
[03:27] <cwill1> omeil: /etc/X11/xorg.conf, change the default bitdepth in the top of the screens section
[03:28] <eshaase> what gstreamer plugin do i want to install to enable mp3 support for bmpx?
[03:28] <omeil> devilsadvocate:system-preferences-mouse
[03:28] <Chaps> while booting from a 6.06 live cd - I tried to pair my BT phone to a usb (kensington) ---to LG phone (Cing) ? --- can't see the dialogue box to enter the pairing code on the ubuntu end
[03:29] <anonymeeee> Good Morning!!
[03:29] <Chaps> is there a .place to store pairing info like that code?
[03:29] <asaup> thank you i resolved the problem
[03:29] <asaup> :D
[03:29] <soundray> Chaps: not sure what you mean by "pairing"
[03:30] <Chaps> bluetooth pairing 2 devices
[03:30] <dyrne> knovak: its probably just a matter of running alsamixer and fooling with the settings.
[03:30] <knovak> what package is Alsamixer in, because whenever i try running it, it says command not foudn
[03:30] <anonymeeee> how do I uninstall ubuntu?
[03:30] <soundray> Chaps: the "Bluetooth" keyword was missing from your posts so far. It helps to start at the beginning when you describe a problem.
[03:31] <Chaps> i see the ubuntu machine from my phone - i start - i enter a few numbers for a code - but on the ubuntu end nothing 'pops-up'?
[03:31] <anonymeeee> I want to leave it on this computer and take it off another
[03:31] <Chaps> BT?!!?
[03:31] <meborc> anonymeeee - format the partition it is on
[03:31] <knovak> anonymeeee, why do you want to uninstall it?
[03:31] <knovak> oh
[03:31] <soundray> Chaps: British Telecom in my book.
[03:31] <mudd1> hi everyone
[03:31] <dyrne> knovak: you have alsa-utils installed?
[03:31] <Chaps> I luv u guys - my fault
[03:31] <anonymeeee> meborc: will that get rid of grub?
[03:32] <knovak> I do now
[03:32] <Chaps> 1st ? - would it be better to install edgy for this sorta connection (BT-gprs) or BT-BT
[03:32] <soundray> Chaps: I can't help you much -- I've once managed to pair up a Bluetooth GPS, but it was a matter of calling some programs - no popups.
[03:32] <dhiraj> anonymeee:u wont nid to remove grub in my opinion
[03:32] <mudd1> anyone familiar with setting up wifi?
[03:33] <soundray> Chaps: I ran that GPS off dapper, but edgy's bluetooth capabilities have moved on a bit as far as I know.
[03:33] <omeil> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:33] <omeil> ?
[03:33] <Chaps> i can see my phone with hciscan
[03:34] <soundray> Chaps: I used hcitool. -- Have you found the wiki help on BT? Look at your PMs:
[03:34] <soundray> !bluetooth > Chaps
[03:35] <apokryphos> omeil: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic.
[03:35] <knovak> well I dont see what I should be doing in Alsamixer
[03:35] <soundray> omeil: install build-essential
[03:35] <knovak> all my capture bars are at 100%
[03:35] <omeil> k
[03:35] <apokryphos> knovak: but are they unmuted?
[03:35] <knovak> I cant even tell if they are muted
[03:35] <knovak> I'm hitting M
[03:35] <knovak> but nothing is changing
[03:36] <apokryphos> knovak: the 00 at the bottom of the bar changes to MM when it's muted
[03:36] <apokryphos> knovak: also see /msg ubotu sound
[03:36] <mudd1> I followed several tutorials but none of them worked. I can set up wifi manually... somehow but using /etc/network/interfaces... no way :/
[03:36] <knovak> !ubotu sound | knovak
[03:36] <knovak> aww
[03:36] <knovak> yay
[03:37] <apokryphos> knovak: /msg the bot when it's a factoid for yourself
[03:37] <knovak> Alright
[03:37] <knovak> nothing is muted by the way
[03:37] <cedricsam> #bugs
[03:37] <knovak> IEC958 is, but thats an output I believe
[03:38] <mudd1> and weird stuff happens. Like iwconfig showing the essid I specified under "Nickname", not under "ESSID" where it belongs
[03:38] <mudd1> does that sound familiar to anybody?
[03:38] <mudd1> I should mention I'm trying to use wpa_supplicant
[03:39] <soundray> !wireless > mudd1, please read the private message from ubotu
[03:40] <omeil> Must say feels weird not running antivirus software
[03:40] <soundray> omeil: like shaking of shackles that you've worn for years?
[03:41] <soundray> *off
[03:41] <omeil> yup
[03:42] <omeil> its just that i don't have that feeling that im in a constant battle lol
[03:43] <omeil> the only downside to linux is game compatibility.
[03:43] <pax> you're still in a battle, your new enemy is bugs and there's no 'software' to fight it.
[03:44] <soundray> omeil: there are fantastic games on Linux. Have you tried Compile-A-Kernel?
[03:44] <omeil> although some companies are starting to release games with both linux and windows. like savage 2 they are going to release a linux and win verson on the same date
[03:44] <omeil> compile a kernel is a game?
[03:45] <soundray> omeil: it can be, depending on how you frame the experience for yourself ;)
[03:45] <OuZo_> hi all, how can i make open office auto spell check like in MS word? thanks
[03:45] <omeil> lol
[03:46] <omeil> must say soundray.... well played lol
[03:46] <bulmer> OuZo_: go check the  menus one by one, it is there
[03:46] <soundray> OuZo_: Tools-Autocorrect
[03:46] <OuZo_> soundray: bulmer: thanks
[03:48] <navegaweb> hello beutiful
[03:48] <navegaweb> was is tuis you
[03:49] <navegaweb> hay alguien que spiking spain
[03:49] <Tomcat_> !es | navegaweb
[03:49] <navegaweb> my inglish is very good
[03:49] <ubotu> navegaweb: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:49] <phr4ck> si un poco :)
[03:49] <navegaweb> ooo ok you are
[03:49] <navegaweb> english
[03:50] <Vilhelms> I'm having a problem with booting. About 1 of 3 boots it crashes so I removed the quiet and booted and it stopped after this message "shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version : 0.4" Does anyone have any idea why it would crash after that message when booting?
[03:52] <Vilhelms> I'm having a problem with booting. About 1 of 3 boots it crashes so I removed the quiet and booted and it stopped after this message "shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version : 0.4" Does anyone have any idea why it would crash after that message when booting? It started crashing after I updated to Kernel 2.6.20 but stopped using it because my ATI drivers don't work on it. I am running 2.6.17-11 like before I did the update.
[03:53] <bulmer> Vilhelms: drivers could be faulty? loading modules to kernel that kernel does not like, tend to panic
[03:53] <Vilhelms> bulmer: Then what could I do for it?
[03:53] <Vilhelms> bulmer: do I need that module? could I just disable it?
[03:54] <hcook> ok, this is weird.
[03:54] <CalJohn> ack, anyone quickly know how to stop images being resized to fit the window by default in firefox2?
[03:54] <bulmer> Vilhelms: yeah i guess, possibly remove it from the modules it installed at boot time
[03:54] <hcook> for some reason update manager keeps telling me my password is wrong....I'm using the same password that works fine with sudo...I just checked.
[03:55] <m4n> how do I reprobe for network interfaces
[03:55] <Vilhelms> bulmer: How do I do that?
[03:55] <m4n> i enabled wireless
[03:55] <m4n> but still its not working
[03:55] <mx-zoom> hcook: do you have separate pwds for root and sudo?
[03:56] <Vilhelms> m4n: does it detect your network interface? you could do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[03:56] <bulmer> Vilhelms: i dont know off hand on ubuntu, there is a file something akin to modules.conf
[03:56] <m4n> Vilhelms: no, it has not detected the interface
[03:56] <Vilhelms> m4n: is your interface showing up in dmesg?
[03:56] <hcook> mx-zoom: i certainly didn't set any seperate password...and update manager worked fine when i ran it yesterday
[03:56] <m4n> Vilhelms: let me check that.. but it should be because it was working earlier
[03:57] <Lacerta> how do i format my usb-drive?
[03:57] <Vilhelms> m4n: How are you loading the interface? through ndiswrapper or do you have native drivers?
[03:57] <bulmer> Vilhelms: go see /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and find out which is the corresponding module for that shpd?
[03:57] <ddave> hi guys
[03:57] <ddave> i am new to ubuntu
[03:57] <m4n> Vilhelms: oops I just switched on the wireless thing in laptop