[02:42] <csatlose> hi guys, can anyone help me with rescue cd parameters?  I'm trying to start linux from an external hd.
[02:42] <john> theres a windows emulator who is able to bridge a video card?
[02:42] <unagi> so cat ~/etc/X11/xorgorig.conf yes?
[02:42] <wilberfan> ShackJack, just the blank (illuminated, but blank) screen...
[02:42] <WisdomWolf> hopefully I'll be able to ignore Vista partition for the most part, but I still need it for WMDC
[02:42] <unagi> what does cat do anyway
[02:42] <john> preview a text file
[02:42] <WisdomWolf> unless someone has some kind of activesync replacement for Linux finally
[02:42] <wilberfan> ShackJack, someone in that thread is saying i might need to upgrade my BIOS...
[02:42] <ShackJack> wilberfan: You mean blank when going into gdm?
[02:42] <Jordan_U> unagi, cat just means read this file to standard out, if the file does not exist then cat will not exit successfully
[02:43] <unagi> ok lemme try that
[02:43] <wilberfan> ShackJack, yeah, i guess...   I got the spinning icon...but never got any kind of ubuntu startup screen, etc...
[02:43] <vamsi> help with streaming mms videos embedded in firefox
[02:43] <vzduch> anandanbu: or you could pastebin your /etc/fstab for us to get some clues
[02:43] <atlantis> Had enough of this 64-bit ver. takes too long to startup numerous apps that won't run. DAMN, its the only ver. that will find all my memory.
[02:43] <Szeraax> wilberfan: sounds like bad video driver choice to me
[02:43] <anandanbu> vzduch: says mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/sda1': File exists
[02:43] <Jordan_U> unagi,  command1 && command2 means do command2 if and only if command1 exits successfully
[02:43] <WisdomWolf> ok here goes nothing
[02:43] <trend> can someone help me with my sshd_config file setting it up for tunneling?
[02:43] <ahorner> i can help people with (a few questions ) while im updating
[02:43] <ShackJack> wilberfan: You got spinning icon, but no startup screen?
[02:44] <wilberfan> ShackJack, yeah...
[02:44] <trend> i want to be able to have Putty forward http connections through my ssh
[02:44] <wilberfan> icon, just for a sec...
[02:44] <Szeraax> wilberfan: oh, not video driver then
[02:44] <ShackJack> wilberfan: You should be gold if you get spinning icon, hmmm...
[02:44] <trend> I have: AllowTcpForwarding yes
[02:44] <atlantis> Yah, running a new shuttle xpc with 4 gb ram 320gb hd 22" samsung lcd and intel core 2 duo 2.13..... not to shabby.
[02:44] <trend> but.. outside of that, it should be stock
[02:44] <Szeraax> try true
[02:44] <ahorner> wow nice setup
[02:44] <wilberfan> ShackJack, let me try a couple of things from that thread....
[02:44] <vamsi> any idea how to view mms videos embedded in firefox
[02:44] <ShackJack> wilberfan: I think Szeraax has idea...
[02:44] <anandanbu> vzduch: How do i pastebin
[02:45] <atlantis> only running ubuntu feisty 64-bit
[02:45] <vzduch> !pastebin | anandanbu
[02:45] <ubotu> anandanbu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:45] <wilberfan> ShackJack, what idea is that?
[02:45] <Szeraax> ShackJack: ha. and what idea was that?
[02:45] <ShackJack> Szeraax: Oh, I dunno you said it wasn't video driver.. which it doesn't seem to be...
[02:45] <ziggy> Hey I have a question. I have a game installed in the directory usr/local/games/ and To run it I have to go to the directory, click on the icon, and then click run in console. Is there a way where I can make ashortcut to this on my desktop?
[02:46] <Szeraax> ShackJack: i at first suggested a bad driver in the Xorg.conf, but if there is the spin, it couldn't be that
[02:46] <ShackJack> Szeraax: thought you were following up.. :)
[02:46] <ahorner> i have 19", 512 mb ram, 200 hd (1 80gig 1 120gig), 1 dvd burner(cd part doesnt work) 1 cd/dvd combo 3.2 ghz
[02:46] <atlantis> no not stock running a nvidia 7200 I think maybe a 7600 whatever its a 256 pci-x kinda a waste on ubuntu but hey
[02:46] <ShackJack> Szeraax: Almost like wilberfan is missing gdm (!)
[02:46] <ahorner> ziggy: you can make an alias
[02:46] <WisdomWolf> what is the .ICEauthority file?
[02:46] <ziggy> ahorner: How?
[02:46] <Szeraax> ShackJack: i was thinking out loud, and hoping someone else is smarter :)
[02:46] <anandanbu> vzduch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29968/
[02:46] <ShackJack> Szeraax: Gotta
[02:46] <WisdomWolf> all it seems to do is create headaches for me
[02:46] <wilberfan> ShackJack, 'cept if i use vega driver...it DOES start...
[02:46] <osklen`> some brazilian here ?
[02:46] <scoobtits> oMG
[02:46] <ahorner> ziggy: right click create alias
[02:47] <ahorner> its like a shortcut
[02:47] <scoobtits> FINALLY FIGURED OUT HOW TO CHANGE RES
[02:47] <Szeraax> oh
[02:47] <Jordan_U> ziggy, use alacarte to add a menu item with the command "gnome terminal /path/to/program"
[02:47] <ShackJack> wilberfan: Ah, O.K.  what's wrong with using VGA driver?
[02:47] <ShackJack> er... vesa
[02:47] <ahorner> aww :-(
[02:47] <wilberfan> ShackJack, 640x480!
[02:47] <ziggy> ahorner: Is that the same thing as "Launcher"?
[02:47] <nickrud> !pt | osklen`
[02:47] <ubotu> osklen`: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:47] <ahorner> ziggy: i dont know
[02:47] <Szeraax> wilberfan: that can be fixed
[02:47] <scoobtits> how do i check if i got hardware ecceleration working/
[02:47] <wilberfan> ShackJack, and strobe-y
[02:47] <Szeraax> wilberfan: i garentee it
[02:47] <ShackJack> wilberfan: did you try setting default depth to 24 instead of 16?
[02:47] <wilberfan> Szeraax, yeah...that makes sense, huh?
[02:48] <ziggy> Jordan_U: Ok
[02:48] <ahorner> i still cant get my 1440x900 res to work
[02:48] <atlantis> anyone know if you can run xchat without a desktop (command-line) that would be cool
[02:48] <wilberfan> ShackJack, not yet...   let me try some Horiz and Vert numbers from that thread, too...
[02:48] <nickrud> atlantis, irssi
[02:48] <Flannel> atlantis: you want irssi
[02:48] <vzduch> anandanbu: according to your fstab, your (hd0,0) is an NTFS partition
[02:48] <osklen`> i have problems with my intel pro 3945abg! it's habilited but situation say "not is use"
[02:48] <ShackJack> wilberfan: Yeah I don't think that's the issue really if you're getting the icon...
[02:48] <Jordan_U> ahorner, What GPU?
[02:48] <ahorner> radeon x200 intregrated
[02:48] <Szeraax> can you post your xorg.conf file please wilberfan
[02:48] <atlantis> irssi k-thanks
[02:48] <ziggy> Jordan_U: It worked, thank you for your help.
[02:49] <ShackJack> wilberfan: I might see if you can go in in "recovery mode" then try to manually start gdm    sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:49] <vzduch> anandanbu: please pastebin the output of 'fdisk -l /dev/sda'
[02:49] <wilberfan> shall we try to get vesa at the proper rez first...?
[02:49] <ahorner> i did what i usually do to get the res working (ive reinstalled ubuntu a couple times[not at once] )
[02:49] <Jordan_U> wilberfan, Not post, but pastbin ( just to be clear )
[02:49] <anandanbu> vzduch: says can't open
[02:49] <wilberfan> Szeraax, my pastebin is:   http://pastebin.ca/619762
[02:49] <ahorner> i installed the manufacturers driver
[02:49] <Szeraax> wilberfan: at least pastebin the xorg.conf so we can pour over it while you reboot and such
[02:49] <osklen`> i have problems with my intel pro 3945abg! it's habilited but situation say "not is use"
[02:49] <Szeraax> wilberfan: thanks
[02:49] <vzduch> anandanbu: then put sudo in front
[02:49] <ahorner> that usually works but it didnt this time
[02:50] <Jordan_U> Szeraax, A lot of times when you ask someone to "post" something they will post it in the channel instead of using pastebin
[02:50] <peepsalot> anyone running tilda?
[02:50] <peepsalot> it just crashes every time i try to run it
[02:50] <Szeraax> wilberfan: ok
[02:50] <vzduch> wilberfan: some ops don't like pastebin.ca because it has ads..
[02:50] <Szeraax> Jordan_U which is why i then state to pastbin it
[02:50] <PaulyHog> !glutRoot
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glutroot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <Szeraax> Jordan_U and, wilberfan isnt' dumb like that
[02:51] <ShackJack> Szeraax: Jordan_U - I had recommended to wilberfan that he force the vert refresh because he said he was getting "blank screen"
[02:51] <ahorner> what all does greasemonkey extention do
[02:51] <wilberfan> vzduch,  what's a better choice for pasting?
[02:51] <Szeraax> wilberfan: yeah, i think i see your problem in the conf file
[02:51] <wilberfan> Szeraax, yeah??
[02:51] <ahorner> !pastebin
[02:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:51] <vzduch> !pastebin | wilberfan
[02:51] <ubotu> wilberfan: please see above
[02:51] <anandanbu> vzduch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29969/
[02:51] <ahorner> lol
[02:51] <ahorner> yay
[02:51] <PaulyHog> are .sh files executables and how do i run them?
[02:51] <ahorner> sudo sh filename.sh
[02:51] <peepsalot> ahorner, it does whatever you want
[02:51] <wilberfan> that was the pastebin i used with OpenSuSE...sorry...   that's the only one i knew about...
[02:52] <Jordan_U> PaulyHog, chmod +x filename && ./filename
[02:52] <tomer> hi folks
[02:52] <ShackJack> PaulyHog: see above...
[02:52] <tomer> how do i change the timezone in ubuntu
[02:52] <aztracker1> Okay, took back the HP laptop... glad I did... Lenovo 3000 N100 works pretty much without issue now.. :)  Ubuntu 7.04-32bit
[02:52] <wilberfan> Szeraax, what do i need to change in my xorg...?
[02:52] <tomer> without gui
[02:52] <tomer> command line only
[02:52] <aztracker1> :D
[02:52] <aztracker1> smoothest Linux install yet..
[02:52] <BeOSMrX> is there someone here that knows LOTS about linux partitions and FS then contact me, I have a challenge for them :)
[02:52] <peepsalot> ahorner, greasemonkey has the power to alter the appearance and functionality of websites on the client's computer
[02:52] <wilberfan> ShackJack, and how do i set default depth?
[02:53] <ShackJack> wilberfan: In screen section...
[02:53] <vzduch> anandanbu: looks like your fstab is defective.. can you access /media/hda1?
[02:53] <Szeraax> wilberfan: with the "defaultdepth 24 #or whatever"
[02:53] <ahorner> coool
[02:53] <ShackJack> wilberfan: And you should refresh your pastebin ;)
[02:53] <PaulyHog> thank you
[02:53] <PaulyHog> ill try again
[02:53] <wilberfan> ShackJack, ah...i see it's set to 16 now...
[02:53] <wilberfan> ShackJack, refresh it because...
[02:53] <wilberfan> ?
[02:54] <ShackJack> wilberfan: Just to see our changes and what you're actually trying to use to start X
[02:54] <anandanbu> vzduch: i not able to access it
[02:54] <atlantis> Nah, just sitting here drinking some nasty Sparks.... a beer-of-sorts.
[02:54] <Wizek> shat should i do if my ubuntu live cd installer says there isn't any root-filesystem set? O.o
[02:54] <ahorner> can i possibly use greasemonkey to set a timer on a webpage to 0
[02:54] <wilberfan> ShackJack, you can CHANGE my pastebin?     I didn't know that....
[02:54] <Szeraax> wilberfan: just hold on, i am working on it
[02:54] <peepsalot> anandanbu, is that that energy drink/beer stuff?
[02:54] <trend> great got it guys... thanks
[02:54] <mccdo> BeOSMrX: what is your partition problem
[02:54] <ShackJack> wilberfan: Yeah, just scroll to bottom and paste in new stuff...
[02:55] <PaulyHog> Jordan_U,  i did that but nothing hapened, im expecting it to run my game :(
[02:55] <wilberfan> ShackJack, wow.  how cool is THAT?!
[02:55] <anandanbu> peepsalot: what are you asking about
[02:55] <BeOSMrX> talk to me in a dialog
[02:55] <ahorner> cool an icon
[02:55] <peepsalot> lol, woops wrong nick
[02:55] <ShackJack> wilberfan: pastebin's majot strength is its a collabotration tool so anyone who visits can make changes, update, etc...
[02:55] <Wizek> What should i do if my ubuntu live cd self-installer says there isn't any root-filesystem set? O.o
[02:55] <Jordan_U> PaulyHog, Nothing at all? No output?
[02:55] <wilberfan> ShackJack, i didn't know that...  i though it was just like a picture-post place...
[02:55] <wilberfan> read-only, as it were...
[02:55] <andre_> Hi, I'm looking for help. My tray on panel disapeared...
[02:56] <ShackJack> wilberfan: code-porn - YAY!
[02:56] <andre_> How do I recover it?
[02:56] <Szeraax> wilberfan: ok, go look at your pastebin
[02:56] <wilberfan> ShackJack, lol
[02:56] <ahorner> rm /db/var/.applesetupdone
[02:56] <Pelo> Wizek,  I assume you were making your own partitions manualy ?
[02:56] <Jordan_U> Wizek, You need to mark a partition for /
[02:56] <esupertons> Ebony1985
[02:56] <ahorner> yay
[02:56] <wilberfan> Szeraax, ok... give me a sec...
[02:56] <anandanbu> vzduch: you there
[02:56] <Szeraax> wilberfan: try the values i used for the hor refresh and vert refresh
[02:56] <mccdo> BeOSMrX: if we go away others can not see and also help; i cannot guarantee i can solve your issue
[02:56] <rasa> $50 via paypal, if someone can help me get Kubuntu to use 1920x1200 on my inspiron 1705(9400) (I've spent *HOURS* and am ready to give up!)
[02:56] <wilberfan> Szeraax, ok... i found some in that thread, too....
[02:56] <Szeraax> wilberfan: and also the default depth (which you already know about)
[02:56] <vzduch> anandanbu: I thought that.. I suggest you 'sudo umount /media/sda1', edit /etc/fstab in that you comment the "Entry for /dev/sda1" out (put a # in front of the 2 lines), then 'sudo mount -t ext3 -o defaults /dev/sda1 /media/sda1'.. then you can access your Fedora menu.lst by opening /media/sda1/boot/grub/menu.lst with a text editor
[02:56] <wilberfan> Szeraax, just in general, what did you change....
[02:57] <PaulyHog> Jordan_U,  no output at all just went to the next line
[02:57] <Szeraax> wilberfan: they should allow you to go to 2048x1536 if your monitor can handle it
[02:57] <ShackJack> Szeraax: I don't see changes to wilberfan 's pastbin.. Here? http://pastebin.ca/619762
[02:57] <anandanbu> vzduch: can you help me with thses step by step
[02:57] <Szeraax> http://pastebin.ca/619802
[02:57] <atlantis> what is the command to change read/write file permissions always been use to chmod +x 777 or similar
[02:57] <anandanbu> vzduch: may i im you
[02:57] <Wizek> Pelo ---> yes, i wanted to set it by myself, because i want to delete my old partitions... can i do it anyway else?
[02:57] <WisdomWolf> ubuntu is awesome...Vista still works!
[02:57] <Szeraax> wilberfan: dang, i thought it would update yours...
[02:57] <Jordan_U> PaulyHog, Can you pastebin the .sh file?
[02:58] <Szeraax> WisdomWolf: SWEET
[02:58] <ShackJack> atlantis: chmod +x filename (sudo as appropriate)
[02:58] <andre_> Hi, I'm looking for help. My tray on panel disappeared, how do I recover it? Thanks.
[02:58] <wilberfan> Szeraax, shall i paste it to the official place...?
[02:58] <Szeraax> did you go to my pastebin and look in there at the refresh rates?
[02:58] <ShackJack> andre_: right-click panel - add to panel..
[02:58] <Pelo> Wizek,  like  jordan said you need to set one partition for /  (root,  whre the os and software is installed)
[02:58] <atlantis> hmm tried that and failed a few times, doubt it was a keystroke error.....
[02:58] <atlantis> will try again.... thx
[02:59] <ShackJack> atlantis: you might need to sudo depending on file owner...
[02:59] <Jordan_U> andre_, Did they just disappear or did you accidentally delete them?
[02:59] <Pelo> Wizek,  I don'T allow /msg , you need to speak to me in the channel
[02:59] <PaulyHog> Jordan_U, what do you mean
[02:59] <BeOSMrX> well my issue i that last night I successfully expanded my etx3 into an empty partition with logvol
[02:59] <atlantis> yah trying to change a file with root priv. to usr priv. so it can be deleted or whatever without logging in under root
[02:59] <Jordan_U> andre_, nvm I thought you said and not on
[02:59] <BeOSMrX> but now i have two partitions with LogVol00 but I want one partition with LogVol00
[03:00] <akos_> Hi there... I've got no sound at all... can you help me?
[03:00] <andre_> Jordan, yes I removed it. I think it happened when I've removed an applet that shows the battery status of my laptop.
[03:00] <Szeraax> try taking my pastebin and place it in your xorg.conf file
[03:00] <Jordan_U> PaulyHog, .sh files are text files, pastebin the contents
[03:00] <PaulyHog> ok
[03:00] <Wizek> pelo ---> is there any other kind of partition needed for install? like swap.
[03:00] <ShackJack> atlantis: that's not chmod, that's chown... i.e. chown root:root filename
[03:00] <wilberfan> Szeraax, where do we stand now?
[03:00] <atlantis> yah the root:root was missing
[03:00] <andre_> ShackJack, do you know the name of the applet?
[03:00] <Szeraax> did you see the differences in mine and yours?
[03:01] <astro76> atlantis, either way you have to sudo so just sudo rm it
[03:01] <novato_br> how to create bootable linux pen driver on  ms windows  xp ?
[03:01] <mccdo> what tool did you use to expand the partition
[03:01] <Jordan_U> andre_, What do you mean by tray?
[03:01] <atlantis> oh did I type chmod.... see maybe it was a keystroke error.... huh :)
[03:01] <Wizek> pelo ---> is there any other kind of partition needed for install? like swap.
[03:01] <WisdomWolf> before installing beryl I should install nvidia drivers which I can do directly from synaptic, right?
[03:01] <Pelo> Wizek,  the basic you need are  /  and /swap ,  /home is nice to , it allows you to reinstall without whipping out your data and settings
[03:01] <Szeraax> Wizek: how much ram?
[03:01] <conorkirkpatrick> Someone said something to me a while ago and it dissapeared up my chat log, could they repeast it if they remember?
[03:01] <PaulyHog> Jordan_U, when i try to open it, it says archive type not supported
[03:01] <Szeraax> Wizek: if 2 GB or over, then probly not
[03:01] <Pelo> Wizek,  it takes you over 3 minutes to come up with a question , can I have more then 10 sec to reply
[03:01] <ShackJack> andre_: notification area (under utilities)
[03:01] <Szeraax> yes
[03:01] <Wizek> Pelo i hav 2048MB :-D
[03:01] <andre_> Jordan_U, I mean the area where update notifications and icons for skype, amsn and Rhytmbox appears.
[03:02] <ShackJack> atlantis: man chown for details.... can do recursively for directiories, etc..
[03:02] <wifenfeffer> Hi, I want to install the most current version of gmpc, what's the best way to do that ?
[03:02] <dxdemetriou> how can I define what plugin will be for each type in firefox? for ex. the ogg is with vlc, mplayer and totem, it works with totem but I want it to work with vlc
[03:02] <andre_> ShackJack, found it.
[03:02] <Pelo> Wizek,   5-10 gig for / ,  2x RAM for /swap , the rest for /home
[03:02] <andre_> Thankyou very much, fellows.
[03:02] <wilberfan> Szeraax, try this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29970/
[03:02] <wilberfan> ?
[03:03] <Wizek> pelo, so 4GB is for swap, am i right?
[03:03] <sn0> !swe
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <sn0> !se
[03:03] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[03:03] <wilberfan> ShackJack, can i get to a command line from my blank screen?
[03:03] <atlantis> anyone know any specific apps that won't run without swap.... I know some that will warn of low/no swap
[03:03] <Pelo> Wizek,  sounds about right
[03:03] <ShackJack> wilberfan: Yeah should be able to... ctrl-alt-f1?
[03:03] <Jordan_U> wilberfan, try ctrl+alt+F1
[03:04] <wilberfan> ShackJack, nuthin'....
[03:04] <pablo_> hi, does ubuntu installs private drivers although i dont add the multiverse repos?
[03:04] <ShackJack> wilberfan: what about ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X
[03:04] <Jordan_U> Pablo, Private drivers?
[03:04] <wilberfan> ShackJack, i'll try that next time...   rebooting...
[03:04] <wilberfan> :-|
[03:04] <Szeraax> wilberfan: try ctrl+alt+f2
[03:05] <pablo_> Jordan_U: closed source drivers i mean
[03:05] <wifenfeffer> Hi, I want to install the most current version of gmpc, what's the best way to do that ?
[03:05] <wilberfan> Szeraax, tried that too....   none of those worked....   machine unresponsive after the failure to start gdm...
[03:05] <atlantis> I want a text-based install with optional add/no-add app. (like fedora) I don't like this automatic add-everything means
[03:05] <Szeraax> ok
[03:05] <Szeraax> wilberfan: go to your "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29970/"
[03:05] <anachronik> anyone with skype?
[03:06] <wilberfan> Szeraax, what am i looking for when i get there?
[03:06] <Szeraax> wilberfan: grab that whole paste, and replace what you have in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf with it
[03:06] <Szeraax> wilberfan: ok?
[03:06] <Jordan_U> Pablo, Proprietary drivers are in Restricted not multiverse generally
[03:06] <pedro> Good night
[03:06] <wilberfan> Szeraax, i don't see that you've changed anything....
[03:06] <pedro> :)
[03:06] <Wizek> pelo, swap, ext3/, and home hav to be primary drives? or is it nvm?
[03:06] <Szeraax> the refresh rates
[03:07] <Szeraax> and defauly depth
[03:07] <atlantis> Can someone direct me to some decent themes. I would like a nice looking yet functional window border / controls
[03:07] <pedro> I am trying to get Rosegarden to sound with General MIdi device but I can't
[03:07] <nickrud> atlantis, get the server install then. it'll install the minimal, and you can then add whatever
[03:07] <pedro> can anyone help me?
[03:07] <Szeraax> wilberfan: hmm
[03:07] <wilberfan> Szeraax, what, specifically is different...just to make sure i'm looking at the right thing....?
[03:07] <freebse> damn my system is shuting down every 1/2 hour
[03:07] <Stormx2> atlantis: gnome-look.org. Look under GTK+, sort by most downloaded
[03:07] <Szeraax> wilberfan: lets try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29971/ then
[03:07] <atlantis> still using CDE-Motif and Iris controls
[03:07] <Pelo> Wizek, you can only have 4 primary partitions on a hdd I beleive , so if your total exceeds some will need to be logical
[03:07] <Szeraax> wilberfan: my bad
[03:07] <freebse> temperature is okay, guess the power thingi is broken
[03:08] <atlantis> I did not finding anything good from the pics anyways
[03:08] <Jordan_U> atlantis, If you like orange: http://www.taimila.com/orange-look.php
[03:08] <wilberfan> Szeraax, so i should try 29971?
[03:08] <Szeraax> yes
[03:08] <Szeraax> wilberfan: if you search it for " HorizSync" you will see what i changed
[03:09] <atlantis> hold-shiit that's alot of orange
[03:09] <Szeraax> get the satanic ubuntu skinner then
[03:09] <wilberfan> Szeraax, yeah...  "31.5 - 150", right?
[03:09] <Szeraax> and the 60-85
[03:09] <atlantis> hold that's funny I meant holy-----
[03:09] <Szeraax> and teh default depth to 24
[03:09] <Szeraax> only 3 i changed
[03:09] <Wizek> pelo: ok, i'm trying it again (4th times), jitter me :)
[03:09] <ShackJack> Szeraax: that sounds like a winner :)
[03:10] <Szeraax> (and uncommented the horiz and the hert too)
[03:10] <atlantis> I need a 64-bit ver of Pidgin / Limewire
[03:10] <Pelo> Wizek,  you'll be fine
[03:10] <Szeraax> ShackJack: i got those numbers from my back|track live cd that seems to work on every monitor that i have ever seen. :)
[03:10] <EliasAmaral> May someone answer a question about the 'setupcon' utility?
[03:10] <wilberfan> Szeraax, let's see what happens....
[03:10] <Szeraax> wilberfan: did you also uncomment too?
[03:11] <wilberfan> Szeraax, I went  back to the vesa driver, yes?
[03:11] <Stormx2> atlantis: I use murrina-gilouche.
[03:11] <Szeraax> wilberfan:  yes
[03:11] <SurfnKid> hi
[03:11] <Wizek> pelo: i hope so, but i wasn't so lucky before...
[03:11] <atlantis> besides simplicity of ubuntu anyone think that Fedora or Sun (totally different cat.) are better in stability and daily-usability
[03:11] <SurfnKid> can anyone tell me how to re-write GRUB back to the MBR?
[03:11] <Szeraax> SurfnKid: Hi
[03:11] <Pelo> Wizek, luck is not involved here
[03:12] <SurfnKid> I have installed WinXP/Ubuntu
[03:12] <ShackJack> atlantis: nope... Ubuntu stable and highly usable...
[03:12] <wilberfan> Szeraax,  nope.   back to the scrambled X FAILED TO START screen....
[03:12] <novato_br> essa comunidade eh uma bosta, mesmo
[03:12] <novato_br> ki porra
[03:12] <conorkirkpatrick> Anybody had any succes with Ubuntu Feisty and an nVidia GeForce FX 5200?
[03:12] <SurfnKid> but WinXP has written to the MBR and I have no menu, I'd like to use grub as the bootloader
[03:12] <Pelo> !grub | SurfnKid
[03:12] <ubotu> SurfnKid: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:12] <Szeraax> ok, what is the error it gives?
[03:12] <ariox> conorkirkpatrick, That's what I have.
[03:12] <SurfnKid> ok thanks
[03:12] <gumjo> hello, is there any app that will recognize multiple copies of same pictures and the delete them?
[03:12] <Szeraax> wilberfan: it should say (EE) ___________________
[03:12] <Stormx2> atlantis: Sun is a company, I guess you mean solaris? Ubuntu is stable, unless you have some totally groovy hardware.
[03:12] <conorkirkpatrick> ariox: Did you have to do anything special with Ubuntu
[03:12] <novato_br> how can I make to mkfs.ext2  format on windows?
[03:12] <conorkirkpatrick> ariox: because the livecd can't start X
[03:12] <novato_br> is there utilitary ?
[03:13] <wilberfan> Szeraax, it's all scrambled... with non-english characters, etc...
[03:13] <ariox> I didn't have to do anything in particular.
[03:13] <atlantis> yah but they have so many now, solaris, sun-desktop, and something else I think
[03:13] <ariox> But if you want to use the card, you must install the drivers through synaptic.
[03:13] <conorkirkpatrick> ariox: See, X wont even start
[03:13] <Stormx2> atlantis: if you want to try solaris, be our guest.
[03:13] <Szeraax> wilberfan: wtf...
[03:14] <atlantis> I have tried it but about 2 years ago with antique hardware, never on new
[03:14] <conorkirkpatrick> ariox: Can you name the drivers so I can install them?
[03:14] <Stormx2> wilberfan: In the X error dialog, or the log itself?
[03:14] <amidaniel> atlantis: Solaris is really much more a server OS than a desktop. They're trying to move into the desktop game, but it's still really only for servers IMO
[03:15] <W_l_c_e> Hi: a quick package question, I can't find a package I've been asked to install, and I believe I've enabled _everything_ in the list.  Where else can I look for packages?  google is petulantly refusing to be useful!
[03:15] <wilberfan> Szeraax,  all i get is a 640x480 blue screen..w.here the text isn't justified properly, and there are weird, non-english characters...
[03:15] <scoobtits> which is the best media player for linux that handles huge amounts of music?
[03:15] <conorkirkpatrick> Can anybody list all the nVidia drivers that are required for Ubuntu to start X?
[03:15] <atlantis> XMMS - ha I love it
[03:15] <wilberfan> Szeraax, if you look closely, you can see it says "X Failed to start properly"..but the rest is almost unreadable...
[03:15] <jamman> scoobtits, AMAROK! i love it man!
[03:15] <atlantis> scrolling long lists is a pain in the ass though
[03:15] <ShackJack> scoobtits: What is huge?
[03:16] <Stormx2> scoobtits: AmaroK seems the de-facto standard for tag-based stuff.
[03:16] <conorkirkpatrick> Can anybody list all the nVidia drivers that are required for Ubuntu to start X?
[03:16] <mysqlchange> !cvs
[03:16] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[03:16] <ShackJack> scoobtits Stormx2 Exaile is worth a look - it's an up & comer...
[03:16] <Stormx2> scoobtits: You might want to check out Exaile, which is an AmaroK clone that uses GTK+ (GNOME's graphical toolkit)
[03:16] <ShackJack> Esp for GNOME..
[03:17] <W_l_c_e> !devel-core
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about devel-core - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <conorkirkpatrick> Can anybody list all the nVidia drivers that are required for Ubuntu to start X?
[03:17] <ShackJack> Stormx2: The SVN version is especially nice.
[03:17] <Stormx2> ShackJack: I mostly torrent my music, so tag editting isn't an option. So I use mpd and sonata...
[03:17] <scoobtits> amarok ?
[03:17] <scoobtits> aight
[03:18] <wifenfeffer> Hi, I want to install the most current version of gmpc, what's the best way to do that ?
[03:18] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: nvidia-glx
[03:18] <Stormx2> wifenfeffer: Find the site and download it? ;-)
[03:18] <Moridin> amarok is a music player
[03:18] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: xorg.conf should have nvidia listed as the driver...
[03:18] <Guinness2702> damn, why doesn't the internet have a pause option
[03:19] <wifenfeffer> Stormx2, it has a couple packages I'd need to update as well, plus, I'd rather install it from a repository.
[03:19] <jamman> scoobtits, if you use gnome, itll take a while to load, but after that it is amazing. i have about 3000 tracks and it screems.
[03:19] <atlantis> Because you haven't invented it yet. - Get to it.
[03:19] <scoobtits> word
[03:19] <Stormx2> wifenfeffer: By the looks of thing there isn't a repo. You can checkinstall it tho.
[03:19] <scoobtits> i got about 34k songs
[03:19] <Szeraax> Guinness2702: it does, its called time.freeze = 1
[03:19] <ShackJack> jamman: I got 8,000 on Exaile :P
[03:19] <laultima> whats an easy way to install ubuntu by floppy?
[03:19] <wifenfeffer> Stormx2, what's checkinstall ?
[03:19] <amidaniel> jamman: What software is this?
[03:20] <ShackJack> laultima: Floppy - ouch - does it have an Ethernet card?
[03:20] <atlantis> floppy
[03:20] <Guinness2702> Szer: ahh, thanks - i can go and get a beer from the fridge without missing anything now
[03:20] <atlantis> damn
[03:20] <Szeraax> Guinness2702: its just really hard to unfreeze time, when you have exactly .0000000 seconds to move you hand and change  the value back to 0
[03:20] <Stormx2> wifenfeffer: Instead of ./configure && make && sudo make install             you do        ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall
[03:20] <atlantis> that's sure RETRO of you
[03:20] <Moridin> by floppy?  hmmmm.  no cdrom?  I installed ubuntu with a crossover network cable and a vmware image
[03:20] <laultima> Shackjack: It does, would that be easier?
[03:20] <ShackJack> wifenfeffer: checkinstall makes a .deb file instead of directly installing..
[03:20] <wifenfeffer> Stormx2, aah
[03:20] <Stormx2> wifenfeffer: It creates a .deb package and installs it, so it can be managed as if it came from a repo, and easily remove/upgraded
[03:21] <wifenfeffer> ShackJack, thanks :)
[03:21] <Moridin> yes much easier with a network card
[03:21] <jamman> ShackJack, HOLY CRAP!! I don't like Exaile too much though. Until it will do everything my amarok can, ill stick to kde.
[03:21] <laultima> Moridin: Know of a good tutorial for it?
[03:21] <kbrooks_> !language | jamman
[03:21] <ubotu> jamman: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:21] <wifenfeffer> Stormx2, so can I do that with all the libraries that gmpc 0.15 requires ?
[03:21] <jamman> kbrooks_, my bad...
[03:21] <alecw1> a little bit of an exageration, kbrooks_?
[03:21] <ShackJack> laultima: I think so, yeah... No CD, eh?
[03:22] <kbrooks_> alecw1, maybe
[03:22] <Stormx2> wifenfeffer: Just libmpd I thought?
[03:22] <wifenfeffer> Stormx2, a few others are outdated
[03:22] <wifenfeffer> I think
[03:22] <Stormx2> wifenfeffer: You might want to check out sonata, gmpc is pretty awful.
[03:22] <ShackJack> laultima: Yep - no CD?
[03:22] <alecw1> !codec
[03:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:22] <Zombie> prboom is locking my box.
[03:22] <laultima> My situation: Laptop, broken cd drive, wont boot windows anymore, but has network card and floppy drive
[03:22] <alecw1> !rythmbox
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rythmbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <ShackJack> laultima: got a USB port?
[03:22] <wifenfeffer> Stormx2, I need profiles, I have a few mpd servers running here, and want this ubuntu machine to be able to use them all
[03:23] <laultima> ShackJack: Yes
[03:23] <Stormx2> alecw1: Who's that for?
[03:23] <atlantis> what - exaile is a decent app
[03:23] <wifenfeffer> Stormx2, but I can do that with libraries too, right ?
[03:23] <Szeraax> laultima: ever heard of winner?
[03:23] <Stormx2> wifenfeffer: Correct.
[03:23] <jamman> atlantis, true, but amarok is better :)
[03:23] <ShackJack> laultima: if you can get it to boot from USB, that would be best..
[03:23] <SurfnKid> I have a * on the wrong boot partition
[03:23] <Stormx2> wifenfeffer: Again, I think you only need libmpd.
[03:23] <wifenfeffer> Stormx2, thanks :)
[03:23] <SurfnKid> seems like grub-install didnt change it
[03:23] <wifenfeffer> Stormx2, I'll try it and see
[03:23] <wifenfeffer> Stormx2, thanks :)
[03:23] <laultima> ShackJack: Know a good tutorial or walkthrough for it?
[03:23] <ShackJack> laultima: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick?highlight=%28usb%29%7C%28install%29
[03:24] <Zombie> I need someone to tell me how to make a Deb of prboom 2.4.7
[03:24] <Stormx2> alecw1: please /msg ubotu if it is for yourself.
[03:24] <laultima> ShackJack: Thanks, I'll give it a look
[03:24] <vzduch> quick question: after adding an entry to Grub by hand, is it necessary to run 'update-grub' or something?
[03:24] <Stormx2> Zombie: Is it not in the repos?
[03:24] <Zombie> 2.4.6 is.
[03:24] <Zombie> and its locking X
[03:24] <Stormx2> !checkinstall | Zombie
[03:24] <ubotu> Zombie: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[03:25] <conorkirkpatrick> Is this good enough for Ubuntu? Pentium 3 800MHZ, 256MB ram, nVidia GeForce FX5200 (128MB)
[03:25] <Zombie> I'm accustomed to the RPM way of packaging.
[03:25] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: That'll do nicely - get more RAM if you can, otherwise I might suggest Xubuntu...
[03:25] <Stormx2> conorkirkpatrick: Yeah, fine.
[03:26] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: RAM is uber-cheap...
[03:26] <Stormx2> conorkirkpatrick: You might want to consider getting more RAM and/or running xubuntu
[03:26] <ShackJack> Stormx2: JINX!
[03:26] <kbrooks> ShackJack, ubuntu works on 256 mb of ram.
[03:26] <bruenig> I would use zenwalk, much lighter
[03:26] <atlantis> Hell I install ubuntu on a Pentium 4 1.8 Ghz 100Mhz FSB Dell with 40 GB HD 7200 and 16MB ATI Graphics with 512 MB Ram..... and it runs slow-as-shit
[03:26] <conorkirkpatrick> shackjack: It should be, it is PC100 lawl. The main problem is X wont start.
[03:26] <kbrooks> ShackJack, i have that setup
[03:26] <Stormx2> ShackJack: We keep saying the same stuff.
[03:26] <Zombie> I don't trust myself to do this.
[03:26] <jamman> conorkirkpatrick, yes you can. i have kubuntu installled on a sys a little worse than that but i have 512 megs of memeory.
[03:26] <ShackJack> kbrooks: Oh, it does, but I find GNOME a little sluggish... 384MB is a good minimum
[03:26] <arooni_> hey folks!
[03:27] <Zombie> Could I have someone else build me a Deb?
[03:27] <piuke> hi guys
[03:27] <conorkirkpatrick> JAmman: with the FX 5200?
[03:27] <kbrooks> ShackJack, ah
[03:27] <bruenig> !hi | arooni
[03:27] <ubotu> arooni: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:27] <jamman> ZombB, i could pull it off.
[03:27] <Stormx2> Zombie: From source?
[03:27] <Zombie> Yeah. prhboom
[03:27] <Zombie> Yeah. prboom
[03:27] <ShackJack> kbrooks: Course I'm rockin' 1 GB :P
[03:27] <arooni_> i have a  Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100  ... and now i'm trying to figure out which driver to put in the xorg.conf (currently its vesa... i think i want mesa) ???
[03:27] <arielprogrammer> Hey guys, do you suck?
[03:27] <allbert> #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007
[03:27] <Nutubuntu> apt-get and aptitude both now offer removal of orphaned support files, yes? so, do they use the same database? Would it create a problem to use both, or should I use only one and stay with it?
[03:27] <arooni_> i have a  Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100  ... and now i'm trying to figure out which driver to put in the xorg.conf (currently its vesa... i think i want mesa) ??? (ubuntu 7.04 + ibm t61 laptop)
[03:27] <jamman> conorkirkpatrick, no, with a neo-geo on a laptop. 500mhz p3.
[03:27] <Flannel> Zombie: prboom is in the repositories
[03:27] <arooni_> sorry for repost ;p
[03:27] <allbert> Linux linuxgeeks.us 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:27] <kbrooks> arielprogrammer, no! we rule!!!
[03:28] <ShackJack> Nutubuntu: Yep - same DB - no problem... I like aptitude
[03:28] <conorkirkpatrick> Anybody had any succes with Ubuntu Feisty and an nVidia GeForce FX 5200?
[03:28] <atlantis> Tried to convert my mothers dell from xp to ubuntu gonna have to go back to xp her comp. temp is raising to meltdown levels trying to keep up with it
[03:28] <Zombie> Flannel: Its gor lockup issues.'
[03:28] <Nutubuntu> t/y ShackJack :)
[03:28] <bruenig> conorkirkpatrick, should be no problem
[03:28] <Zombie> Flannel: The version on my box will freeze X
[03:28] <Zombie> Known bug.
[03:28] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: Nvidia cards work great esp 5+ series...
[03:28] <conorkirkpatrick> bruenig: I know it should work, but X won't start
[03:28] <bruenig> atlantis, use a lighter distro
[03:28] <dwmyers> Is there a channel for Ubuntu on the PS3?
[03:28] <bruenig> conorkirkpatrick, should
[03:28] <conorkirkpatrick> ShackJack, My X won't start, I have no idea why
[03:28] <bruenig> dwmyers, no
[03:29] <ariox> conorkirk: I installed Ubuntu for my little brother on his P3 500 with 256.
[03:29] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: you have right driver specified in xorg?
[03:29] <ariox> Runs slowly, but it works.
[03:29] <bruenig> conorkirkpatrick, checked to see that it is using the nv driver or you can switch it out for vesa if that doesn't go
[03:29] <ariox> 256 MB RAM, that is.
[03:29] <atlantis> 32-bit ver ubuntu..... only thing lighter is xubuntu and this is a 50-yr old women I'm talking about she would notice that dosen't work like xp
[03:29] <conorkirkpatrick> shackjack: In xorg I have nVidia set as the driver
[03:29] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: nuke the captial  "V"
[03:29] <bruenig> atlantis, there are lighter distros
[03:29] <atlantis> I don't know of any lighter than xubuntu
[03:30] <conorkirkpatrick> shackjack: I have it like this: "nvidia" in xorg, I just say nVidia whenever I talk :D
[03:30] <bruenig> atlantis, zenwalk, dsl, puppy
[03:30] <ShackJack> atlantis: there's fluxbuntu,,,
[03:30] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: what does error say?
[03:30] <atlantis> flux can you imagine my mother (if you knew her) on flux-box
[03:30] <atlantis> lol :)
[03:30] <Zombie> I need help still
[03:30] <bobsomebody> how can i adjust the balance of my audio output?
[03:30] <bobsomebody> (left right balance)
[03:30] <bruenig> atlantis, zenwalk is nice, get that
[03:30] <ShackJack> atlantis: xubuntu is really minimum usability for most ppl :)
[03:31] <cyphase> Interesting.. the trailer butttons on apple.com work with firefox and totem
[03:31] <conorkirkpatrick> shackjack: Starting gnome display manager: ..... [fail]
[03:31] <ShackJack> bobsomebody: volume control or alsamixer
[03:31] <conorkirkpatrick> shackjack: then a dialog box (text mode) comes up saying that it failed to start X
[03:31] <atlantis> my mother likes her pogo (flash/java must work easily) and she pays her bills online and prints shit (so hp drivers are a must) ubuntu just seem to fit good
[03:31] <bobsomebody> ShackJack, i dont see balance in the VCM at all
[03:31] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: yes, but scroll down with keys - should be error message?
[03:31] <ketzerei> is there a daemon tools like program for linux/ubuntu?
[03:31] <warjo> Cant i install beryl on ubuntu with my ATI graphic card?
[03:31] <atlantis> yes
[03:32] <ShackJack> bobsomebody: use alsamixer (run from terminal)
[03:32] <Flannel> !checkinstall | Zombie
[03:32] <ubotu> Zombie: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[03:32] <bruenig> atlantis, hp drivers are super easy, ubuntu hasn't done anything that any other distro hasn't done as far as that is concerned
[03:32] <Stormx2> Flannel: Already showed him that.
[03:32] <Zombie> I'm not willing to risk my box luike that
[03:32] <ShackJack> warjo you can -- go to #ubuntu-effects for better help..
[03:32] <ketzerei> is there a daemon tools like program for linux/ubuntu?
[03:32] <conorkirkpatrick> shackjack: Undefined device, "Generic Video card" referenced by screen "default screen"
[03:32] <Flannel> Zombie: you alos might want to email the maintainer, and ask him to upgrade the one in gutsy, since it's still the same version
[03:32] <bruenig> ketzerei, mount
[03:32] <warjo> Thnx shackHack
[03:32] <ketzerei> can you run a game that way?
[03:32] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: Can you pastebin your xorg?
[03:32] <Zombie> Whose the maintainer?
[03:32] <hwilde> How to force baud rate of mct u232 - serial convert?   dmesg shows this error:  [15308.548000]  drivers/usb/serial/mct_u232.c: MCT USB-RS232: unsupported baudrate request 0x1005, using default of B9600
[03:32] <atlantis> tried fedora core 6 (previously) and no dice on the hp printer. ubuntu right away no flaws print/scan/yada yah
[03:32] <conorkirkpatrick> ShackJack: Can that be done from the shell? ;)
[03:33] <jamman> Zombie, hey, I'm building the .deb now.
[03:33] <bobsomebody> ShackJack, ah, never knew this was there
[03:33] <ubuntu> Does someone familiar with Ubuntu's Live persistence with USB and the UnionFS issues have a few minutes they can help me with something....
[03:33] <anandanb1> vzduch are you there
[03:33] <bruenig> atlantis, hplip and cups, that is the secret formula
[03:33] <ketzerei> bruenig: can you run a program from an iso?
[03:33] <vzduch> anandanb1: here
[03:33] <atlantis> yah hplip....... was that included with fc6 I know its on 7
[03:33] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: Oh, right... hmm...
[03:33] <bruenig> !mountiso | ketzerei just mount it and do whatever
[03:33] <ubotu> ketzerei just mount it and do whatever: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:33] <jamman> ketzerei, just mount and then you can.
[03:33] <Zombie> Thank you.
[03:33] <ketzerei> thanks
[03:34] <bobsomebody> ShackJack, i got into alsa mixer but i dont see how to adjust the balance, is it a specific key?
[03:34] <conorkirkpatrick> ShackJack: Any way that I could use some sort of thing to send it from the console? Like a version of Wget that sends?
[03:34] <bruenig> atlantis, I know it is on zenwalk, zenwalk actually has better setup than zenwalk on printer because it uses the gnome-cups-add thing just like regular ubuntu
[03:34] <ariox> bobsomebody: try your arrow keys
[03:34] <bruenig> atlantis, than xubuntu*
[03:34] <phreck> anyone got a minute?
[03:34] <conorkirkpatrick> ShackJack: I have a Mac (OSX) which is BSD on it's network
[03:34] <Stormx2> bobsomebody: Do you not have a GUI? Run gnome-volume-manager
[03:34] <explorer> What command do I run in shell window to find out what version linux I'm running - had it written down but can't find it. Thanks
[03:34] <arooni_> does anyone know how to install beryl
[03:34] <bruenig> explorer, uname -a
[03:34] <arooni_> with a intel 3100 graphics card
[03:34] <bobsomebody> ariox, thats volume or switch to dif input
[03:34] <vzduch> anandanb1: if you're registered --> '/msg nickserv ghost anandanbu yourNickServPassword'; '/nick anandanbu', '/msg nickserv identify yourNickServPassword'
[03:34] <atlantis> we all got minutes
[03:34] <ubuntu> oh, my user name is ubuntu when I use the live disc, hence why everyone's lines are showing up as red... lol
[03:34] <bruenig> !beryl | arooni_
[03:34] <ubotu> arooni_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:34] <phreck> arooni: go to #beryl
[03:34] <atlantis> were on here
[03:34] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: the names don'[t line up in xorg...
[03:34] <explorer> thx bruenig
[03:35] <bobsomebody> Stormx2, i dont have a balance adjuster in VCM in Gnome
[03:35] <conorkirkpatrick> shackjack: huh?
[03:35] <Stormx2> bobsomebody: Can you not enable it under preferences?
[03:35] <jimmygoon> Can someone tell me which patched ISO I should use to use the Live USB Persitence with Feisty?
[03:35] <ShackJack> Under Mointor and screen section of xorg - they should match... refer to each other best I cna explain..
[03:35] <dissection> I want to be able to login to my PC in a shell when I'm away from home. What do I need to setup on my PC for that?
[03:35] <MEEUH> http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
[03:35] -MEEUH:#ubuntu- http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
[03:35] <MEEUH> http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
[03:35] <Stormx2> !ssh | dissection
[03:35] <ubotu> dissection: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:35] -MEEUH:#ubuntu- http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
[03:35] <jimmygoon> !ssh | diseaser
[03:35] <ubotu> diseaser: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:35] <MEEUH> http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
[03:35] <bobsomebody> Stormx2, preferences only allows me to add input src's
[03:35] -MEEUH:#ubuntu- http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
[03:35] <atlantis> oh yah btw: Finally bought my new car the other day 07'HondaCivic Si---- Love it. Hate it.  Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[03:35] <MEEUH> http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
[03:35] <Nutubuntu> !ops
[03:35] -MEEUH:#ubuntu- http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
[03:35] <astro76> !ops | MEEUH
[03:35] <ubotu> MEEUH: please see above
[03:35] <jimmygoon> woops, sorry diseaser, wrong person
[03:36] <dissection> Stormx2: Thank! I wasn't sure what to google for :)
[03:36] <dissection> *thanks
[03:36] <explorer> bruenig - is there anoter commd. i can run that gives me more info?
[03:36] <bruenig> explorer, like what
[03:36] <pal_> gusty gibbon uses other chat client other than Gaim why?
[03:36] <allbert> Linux linuxgeeks.us 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:36] <Stormx2> The ops are totally asleep
[03:36] <hwilde> !ops
[03:36] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[03:36] <alex_> its not other chat client, aim sued gaim, they're pidgin now
[03:36] <nikin> hy. I mistyped the icon theme in xffm , and now i cant start it... any idea how to fix that? or where do i find the config file?
[03:36] <bruenig> he's gone
[03:36] <hwilde> they're not asleep they are just busy
[03:36] <bobsomebody> lol @ input from bots IP
[03:36] <Nutubuntu> pal_,  same thing different name
[03:37] <bobsomebody> did anyone else get scanned by him?
[03:37] <nalioth> hwilde: yes?
[03:37] <hwilde> nalioth, -MEEUH/#ubuntu- http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/  is spam
[03:37] <bruenig> nalioth, MEEUH was /noticing everyone but he left
[03:37] <nalioth> hwilde: and meeuh is klined
[03:37] <explorer> ummm think i'm running kde based on debian - but not sure - if so need to ask ? ? ?'s in rught forum as well
[03:37] <bruenig> right
[03:37] <pal_> Nutubuntu: It is developed by different people?
[03:37] <bobsomebody> ShackJack, did you get my last post @ u?
[03:37] <bruenig> explorer, what information do you need to know
[03:37] <hwilde> nalioth, how to force baud rate of mct u232 - serial convert?   dmesg shows this error:  [15308.548000]  drivers/usb/serial/mct_u232.c: MCT USB-RS232: unsupported baudrate request 0x1005, using default of B9600
[03:37] <brunner> I've never owned a laptop that had an ATI video card. Can anyone tell me if the support is as good as it is for NVIDIA?
[03:37] <bobsomebody> ShackJack, i got into alsa mixer but i dont see how to adjust the balance, is it a specific key?
[03:37] <Flannel> Zombie: looks like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but you should double check to make sure.
[03:37] <Nutubuntu> pal_,  gaim = pidgin
[03:37] <alex_> pal_ AOL sued gaim, they renamed themselves to avoid lawsuit
[03:38] <conorkirkpatrick> ShackJack: I have SSH access into my mac
[03:38] <brunner> I've always intentionally chosen NVIDIA
[03:38] <nalioth> hwilde: i'm so far out of that loop, i couldn't tell ya  :(
[03:38] <atlantis> the pidgin icon is sooooooooooooo GAYYYYYYYYYYYY
[03:38] <Stormx2> brunner: Not nearly as good, but okayish in places
[03:38] <atlantis> who made that..... were they drunk
[03:38] <brunner> Stormx2: thanks
[03:38] <jimmygoon> Which ISO should I use from this page: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubuntuFeistyPatched/
[03:38] <nikin> hy. I mistyped the icon theme in xffm , and now i cant start it... any idea how to fix that? or where do i find the config file?
[03:38] <explorer> is there command i can run that tells me more specifically if running debian with kde etc.?
[03:38] <Stormx2> atlantis: It's happy? It looks like one joyous bird
[03:38] <supertones> what irc client do you guys find best i'm currently using bitchx but there is definitely a learning curve when compared to mIRC
[03:38] <ShackJack> bobsomebody: one sec
[03:38] <bruenig> atlantis, it's a pidgin so....?
[03:38] <hwilde> nalioth,  lol me too
[03:38] <Stormx2> supertones: X-Chat.
[03:38] <bobsomebody> ShackJack, k, thanks man
[03:38] <Zombie> I lost you.
[03:39] <conorkirkpatrick> What command tells me my computers ip?
[03:39] <atlantis> I'm fine with a bird (kinda-sorta) but the design looks like my niece drew it DRUNK
[03:39] <Zombie> Does someone have a
[03:39] <Zombie> Did the build succeed?
[03:39] <Stormx2> conorkirkpatrick: The fact that you can connect? o.O
[03:39] <Nutubuntu> conorkirkpatrick,  ifconfig
[03:39] <nalioth> conorkirkpatrick: ifconfig
[03:39] <ShackJack> bobsomebody: run gnome-volume-control instead...
[03:39] <brunner> has anyone heard of a <15" laptop with resolution of 1400 x 1050 or better?
[03:39] <Flannel> explorer: debian?  No. You could use lsb_release to find out what version/etc you're running, but that can still change (you can run Ubuntu but then install Kubuntu later, etc)
[03:39] <jimmygoon> conorkirkpatrick, inside your network or outside?
[03:39] <conorkirkpatrick> thnx
[03:39] <phreck> brunner: mine did 1600x1200
[03:39] <hwilde> nalioth, I posted to the wiki.  tell your friends, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarmenSickLaserS300
[03:39] <Nyle> what
[03:39] <ShackJack> bobsomebody: might be under sound video.. or you have to enable it under edit menu in panel..
[03:39] <Flannel> brunner: 14" T60s have 1400x1050
[03:39] <atlantis> If you look at my penis from 500 yards it has a resolution of 1400 x 1050 some say better :) lol
[03:39] <bobsomebody> hey, do you guys think I should offer a free onsite install of linux on any computer that has windows installed (overwrite windows, not share the drive)
[03:39] <Nyle> dude
[03:39] <hwilde> !coc | atlantis
[03:39] <ubotu> atlantis: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[03:39] <Nyle> atlantis: bad
[03:40] <conorkirkpatrick> how can I allow SSH'ing into my linux box within the shell?
[03:40] <tofaffy> I have a 64 bit amd dual core processor...my mouse keeps freezing up. Do you think if I isntalled the 64 bit version of ubuntu, it would be better and maybe stop that issue, and make my hardware more efficient?
[03:40] <explorer> flannel - ahh - you're on the right track - that's the info i needed thx much...
[03:40] <jimmygoon> conorkirkpatrick, make sure the openssh-server is running
[03:40] <Nutubuntu> tofaffy,  no
[03:40] <Flannel> conorkirkpatrick: install openssh-server
[03:40] <tofaffy> What could be the problem with my mouse?
[03:40] <tofaffy> It's a usb mouse.
[03:40] <brunner> Flannel: wonderful!
[03:40] <brunner> phreck: what is it?
[03:40] <atlantis> no my mouse skipps around alot tried 2 of them but both were RF
[03:40] <explorer> gottcha on the other desktop install - was considering that
[03:41] <bobsomebody> ShackJack, ok, i got it figured out, it wasnt giving me 2 bars at all, but it just started doing that
[03:41] <nikin> bobsomebody: depends on what hardware... for average stuff.. yes.. fro special stuff... a google around could help.
[03:41] <bobsomebody> so i can balance the output
[03:41] <tofaffy> It randomly freezes up and unplugging and plugging back up doesn't fix it. I try and restart X and it freezes my whole computer. I've tried modprobing my usb port...it does nothing but freeze up my keyboard too.
[03:41] <atlantis> I have a kensington Pilot mouse it SUCKS-AS** (happy **)
[03:41] <jamman> ZombB, do you still need it?
[03:41] <conorkirkpatrick> What is the Ubuntu LiveCD's default passwordf
[03:41] <kyncani> tofaffy: have you checked /var/log/syslog ?
[03:41] <ShackJack> bobsomebody: sweet!
[03:41] <jimmygoon> conorkirkpatrick, there isn't one
[03:41] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: there is none...
[03:41] <jamman> conorkirkpatrick, ubuntu i believe
[03:41] <bobsomebody> nikin, well of course there will be the liability waiver and unsupported hardware possibility notice in the service agreement
[03:41] <jimmygoon> wait, to log back into gnome, should be ubuntu/ubuntu I believe
[03:41] <jamman> conorkirkpatrick, looks like im wrong.
[03:42] <larson9999> i swear i listen to more music now that the riaa made me seek out free music.
[03:42] <ZombB> jamman, are you talking to me?
[03:42] <conorkirkpatrick> shackjack: I am ssh'ing into my linux box, it needs a pass, and pushing enter doesn't work
[03:42] <tofaffy> i've checked /var/log/messages...i'll check it next time. This has been going on for a few days...it started when i first installed ubuntu on this new pc. (a few days ago :)) and yeah...it's really annoying cause I have to completely restart.
[03:42] <bobsomebody> but this way i can help the Ethnical Cleansing of Windows from all HDD's
[03:42] <jamman> ZombB, yea.
[03:42] <atlantis> Made you seek out ..... :( that is never a good thing
[03:42] <pal_> I like how gusty gibbon looks I downloaded the test 2
[03:42] <ZombB> jamman, you mean Zombie
[03:42] <jimmygoon> conorkirkpatrick, you have to set a password than, why are you using openssh with the live disc :S
[03:43] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: then p/w should be your pw...?
[03:43] <ZombB> jamman, I am ZombB
[03:43] <jamman> looks like i do. ;)
[03:43] <bobsomebody> but hey, if linux can run on 80% of my hardware that wont run windows that kinda makes it a plus to have someone install it for free on your old dead PC from 2k
[03:43] <jkthecjer> bah, my apt-get is being silly: The file /etc/vmware/vmnet8/dhcpd/dhcpd.conf that this program was about to install already exists.  Overwrite? [yes]
[03:43] <conorkirkpatrick> jimmygoon: because I can't get X to start, and shackjack wants my xorg.conf
[03:43] <bobsomebody> then sell support and training
[03:43] <bobsomebody> then profit
[03:43] <conorkirkpatrick> shackjack: p/w nor pw work
[03:43] <jimmygoon> conorkirkpatrick, I think you may have to set the root pw
[03:43] <jamman> Zombie, do you still need it?
[03:43] <jkthecjer> it asks this and similar questions 6 times during each install of new packages
[03:43] <conorkirkpatrick> jimmygoon: how
[03:43] <Zombie> Yes,.
[03:44] <jimmygoon> but you should be able to log in as<EMAIL_ADDRESS> w/ pw of ubuntu
[03:44] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: Names just have to match thats what error is... under screen device and monitor -- cross referene themmm.
[03:44] <jimmygoon> then issue sudo commands, esp since ubuntu doesn't have a root user
[03:44] <bobsomebody> alright #ubuntu, im out, qwerty on!
[03:44] <gnuvince_> Can I install Feisty Fawn x86 on my AMD64?
[03:44] <atlantis> me too ---- peace-out
[03:44] <sdouble> gnuvince_: yes
[03:44] <kyncani> tofaffy: yeah, really annoying, /var/log/syslog and google may give you some directions
[03:44] <gnuvince_> sdouble: thank you.
[03:44] <kyncani> tofaffy: (hope)
[03:44] <sdouble> I have it on mine
[03:45] <jimmygoon> Which ISO should I use from this page: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubuntuFeistyPatched/
[03:45] <conorkirkpatrick> shackjack: how do you create the nvidia device files? (is it modprobe?)
[03:45] <macabro22> Hello
[03:46] <jamman> Zombie, workin on it now.
[03:46] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: device files?
[03:46] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: your names just need to match up in X - in those sections i said...
[03:46] <kiwiturnAUS> hey
[03:46] <arooni_> how do i know if i have the mesa video driver installed?
[03:47] <conorkirkpatrick> shackjack: I did, screen says nvidia geforce fx5200 and the other section for device says nvidia geforce fx5200
[03:47] <brunner> Flannel: those T60's have ATI cards
[03:47] <kiwiturnAUS> how do i uninstall ubuntu (on a mates computer) ?
[03:47] <macabro22> I changed the file permissions of my home folder in Nautilus and now I get an annoying message every login telling me only the user should be able to write home folder files. How can I undo what I did?
[03:47] <ZombieCall> !botsnack
[03:47] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:47] <tofaffy> Did someone say somethign to me before I quit? My mouse froze up again and I didn't look...
[03:47] <jamman> ZombieCall, what was up with that?
[03:47] <ZombieCall> bot's gotta eat too
[03:48] <ZombieCall> :D
[03:48] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: yeah sorry it's an error in that I fogot your original error message but names don't match up...
[03:48] <nj786> hey is there a way i can install windows again without delteing ubuntu
[03:48] <jimmygoon> tofaffy, not really
[03:48] <kiwiturnAUS> please
[03:48] <jimmygoon> nj786, yeah but its not fun
[03:48] <nj786> jimmygoon: meaning?
[03:48] <jimmygoon> nj786, you resize the ubuntu partition, reinstall windows and then reinstall grub
[03:48] <arooni_> anyone know how to get 3d mesa driver working on a t61
[03:49] <astro76> kiwiturnAUS, do you need to restore the windows bootloader?
[03:49] <jimmygoon> resizing is always a bit "touchy" supposedly, though i've never had a problem with it
[03:49] <tomer> where did the /etc/inittab go in 7.04???
[03:49] <nj786> jimmygoon: um....how do i do that/?
[03:49] <hwilde> tomer,  locate inittab
[03:49] <bastidraZor>  mount: mount point /media/iso does not exist   .. what am i doing wrong?
[03:49] <tomer> ok thanks
[03:49] <tomer> any idea on how to change the time zone in 7.04?
[03:49] <hwilde> tomer, oops it is not there!
[03:49] <bastidraZor> aren't i creating that mount point ?
[03:49] <conorkirkpatrick> shackjack: Section "device" Identifier "nvidia geforce fx 5200" Section "screen" device "nvidia geforce fx5200"
[03:49] <jimmygoon> nj786 using a SysRescCd and then the ubuntu live disc, let me see if I can find an article, otherwise someone will have to walk you through it, I can't because I need to leave soon
[03:49] <tomer> hwilde: right where is it
[03:49] <arooni_> i see: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:49] <astro76> bastidraZor, mkdir /media/iso first
[03:49] <sdouble> tofaffy: is it just your mouse freezing?  Can you still use the keyboard?
[03:49] <hwilde> tomer, /etc/timezone
[03:49] <arooni_> how can i fix this?
[03:49] <tomer> wierd
[03:50] <conorkirkpatrick> How do you create a root password from the shell?
[03:50] <DaveyJ_> is there any reason i'm not getting sound to playback on my 3g2 files?
[03:50] <tomer> conorkirkpatric: passwd
[03:50] <jimmygoon> conorkirkpatrick, you have to activate the root account first, why don't you ssh as "ubuntu" and then use sudo
[03:50] <tofaffy> yes, I can still use the keyboard. If I unplug and plug back in, it still is frozen, and if It ry to restart X it freezes the computer.
[03:50] <tofaffy> they are both usb devices
[03:50] <nj786> jimmygoon: pl
[03:50] <nj786> ppl
[03:50] <nj786> ok*************
[03:50] <WisdomWolf> if I install nvidia-glx and then do nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --composite and then instlal beryl emerald-themes is that all I need to do to make Bery work?
[03:50] <hwilde> tomer, http://blog.mypapit.net/2007/03/where-can-i-find-inittab-in-ubuntu-edgy-eft-or-feisty-fawn.html
[03:50] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: Isn't there the command line reconfigure thing dpkg xorg-server --reconfigure or something, which will rebuild your xorg?
[03:51] <conorkirkpatrick> shackjack: That has been suggested to me before, and when run, there was no change with the error
[03:51] <tomer> thx
[03:51] <hwilde> !beryl | WisdomWlf
[03:51] <ubotu> WisdomWlf: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:51] <tofaffy> SD_, thats all it's doing...
[03:51] <jimmygoon> nj786, follow this loosely, interjecting modifications as necessary http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Windows_-_Add_MS_Windows_to_Your_System76_Machine
[03:51] <phreck> any word on bisoncam drivers?
[03:51] <phreck> =D
[03:51] <nj786> jimmygoon: how long does this take?
[03:52] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: K sorry I'm tapped if I can't see xorg (and might be even if I could ;))
[03:52] <wizek> do someone know what to do with Error 21 during installion ubuntu 7.4???
[03:52] <jamman> wizek, when do you get it?
[03:52] <jimmygoon> nj786, depends, have you ever done this before? somewhere between an hour and two, though it could take 30 minutes (minus the time to install windows)
[03:52] <wizek> jamman, afther the restart
[03:52] <conorkirkpatrick> shackjack: YAY! I ssh'd into my linux box, and did cat on the xorg file, and copy and pasted it! http://pastebin.ca/619849
[03:52] <nj786> jimmygoon: ok
[03:52] <ZombieCall> if i install kde on my ubuntu installation, will gnome be over-written? if not, i hope they will not run at the same time? How do I choose which one runs, when?
[03:52] <WisdomWolf> hwilde, no one is responding in that channel
[03:53] <jamman> Wizardo55, hmm... grub error?
[03:53] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: K I'll take a look..
[03:53] <kiwiturnAUS> astro 76 : yes i do
[03:53] <Nutubuntu> ZombieCall,  no; they won't; you choose at login prompt (session options)
[03:53] <kiwiturnAUS> its using the grub boot loader at the moment
[03:53] <wizek> jamman,
[03:53] <jamman> Zombie, i cant get it to work.
[03:53] <conorkirkpatrick> jamman: gimme a random number, from 1-3
[03:53] <jamman> sorry man.
[03:53] <jamman> 3
[03:53] <conorkirkpatrick> thnx
[03:53] <Zombie> can't get what to work exactly?
[03:53] <Nutubuntu> ZombieCall,  you may have pretty cluttered menus though
[03:54] <jamman> conorkirkpatrick, what was that for?
[03:54] <Zombie> Who maintains prboom in Ubuntu?
[03:54] <ZombieCall> Nutubuntu, thanks for the info! After, I assume, I do sudo apt-get install kde how can i keep my gnome apps and kde apps seperator from one another?
[03:54] <conorkirkpatrick> jamman: bored, I put friends on thoose numbers of who to call :D
[03:54] <jamman> Zombie, make: *** [build-stamp]  Error, and a couple of others.
[03:54] <wizek> GRUB Loading stage1.5.
[03:54] <wizek> GRUB loading, please wait
[03:54] <wizek> Error 21
[03:54] <jamman> wizek, thats what i figured.
[03:54] <Zombie> Allright.
[03:54] <conorkirkpatrick> jamman: also determining whether humans are allowed life, and you killed everyone :D
[03:54] <jamman> wizek, how old is your comp?
[03:54] <Zombie> So we need to speak to the maintainer.
[03:54] <Zombie> Whose the mainatiner
[03:54] <jamman> conorkirkpatrick, NO!!!
[03:54] <conorkirkpatrick> lol
[03:54] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: those two zeros shouldnt be after default screen in Server Layout section..
[03:54] <ZombieCall> Nutubuntu, if i make another account, say, ZombieKDE and then i do apt-get install kde. . . will the kde apps only be shown on that account and not on, say ZombieGNOME account?
[03:55] <wizek> jamman, i bought it some months ago
[03:55] <wizek> :D
[03:55] <kbrooks> um, question
[03:55] <Nutubuntu> ZombieCall, I don't know that one ... ask the chan generally :)
[03:55] <nj786> jimmygoon: can i use my ubuntu live cd instead of downloading this other 1 they r asking me?
[03:55] <jamman> wizek, remove any hard drives? also does it have sata drives?
[03:55] <kbrooks> ZombieCall, no
[03:55] <telliott> Any Wubi experts here?  I'm having trouble starting it up.
[03:55] <kbrooks> ZombieCall, apt-get install is global
[03:55] <ZombieCall> ok
[03:55] <alecw1> I'm just curious what people here prefer: Evolution or Thunderbird
[03:55] <kbrooks> telliott, wubi is unofficial
[03:56] <jimmygoon> nj786, gimme a sec
[03:56] <ZombieCall> is there a non-global installation command?
[03:56] <ShackJack> alecw1: T-Bird FTW
[03:56] <jamman> alecw1, thunderbird!
[03:56] <ZombieCall> user specific
[03:56] <conorkirkpatrick> shackjack: got rid of them, same error, it needs device files, and I think it is with modprobe, but i forget what to modprobe :D
[03:56] <kbrooks> ZombieCall, no. well, you can hack it around, but think of it like this.
[03:56] <alecw1> I'm leaning towards evolution..
[03:56] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: What was error again?
[03:56] <jimmygoon> nj786, yes you can use your disc
[03:56] <ZombieCall> kbrooks, sorry about not doing the name thing . . . im new to the IRC thing
[03:56] <conorkirkpatrick> ShackJack: I can give you the log, if you know where the log for X is ;)
[03:56] <jamman> alecw1, thunderbird lets you do quite a bit more, man!
[03:57] <ShackJack> No just that error you said before..
[03:57] <wizek> jamman: well it is an old ide winchester which i want to install on my linux... but at all my pc is some months old...
[03:57] <kbrooks> ZombieCall, it is easier to do it globally than it is to do it locally and have to edit files automatically, tell you to log out, etc
[03:57] <WisdomWolf> ya I agree, use thunderbird
[03:57] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: ^
[03:57] <tomer> ok so now with this upstart system
[03:57] <Zombie> What is Ubuntus Developer channel.
[03:57] <ZombieCall> ah, ok
[03:57] <jimmygoon> alecw1, after using evolution for a while and then trying thunderbird, I'm sad that I used evolution for soo long, it was bad.
[03:57] <jamman> wizek, ok. well... no hds removed?
[03:57] <tomer> how do we make ubuntu not start the X system on boot up?
[03:57] <kbrooks> ZombieCall, a installer SHOULD NOT edit files automatically. it should do its best task: install
[03:57] <ZombieCall> kbrooks, thanks for the insight
[03:57] <alecw1> Anybody have a suggestion for a CSS/XHTML programming app (no wysiwyg)?
[03:57] <tomer> previously the inittab took care of it
[03:57] <jimmygoon> though I like the column display that evolution has... but there's probably a thunderbird extension for that.
[03:58] <bruenig> alecw1, gedit is good
[03:58] <bruenig> alecw1, or vim
[03:58] <conorkirkpatrick> ShackJack: (EE) NVIDIA(0): that the NVIDIA device files have been created properly
[03:58] <alecw1> I'd like automatic tabbing...
[03:58] <Nutubuntu> alecw1,  I've gotten to like jEdit
[03:58] <alecw1> jedit, vim?
[03:58] <kbrooks> ZombieCall, this is my opinion, but other people are most likely to share my opinion, since no one likes change
[03:58] <astro76> tomer, /etc/event.d/rc-default
[03:58] <nj786> jimmygoon: im not going to bother using this becuase i know i am going to screw up
[03:58] <wizek> jamman: but yes, a sata2 winchester... it is newer... but i removed it because i would like to avoid conflicts... i have my win on it
[03:58] <alecw1> !vim
[03:58] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[03:58] <mrssellout> could someone help me troubleshoot my wireless card: it works on the liveCD but not on the installed version
[03:58] <jimmygoon> nj786, that is your only option
[03:58] <alecw1> !html
[03:58] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[03:59] <nj786> jimmygoon: i am going to need somebody walking me through this
[03:59] <alecw1> !css
[03:59] <jimmygoon> nj786, unless you install windows inside like vmware or parallels or virtualbox or qemu
[03:59] <ingo> !html
[03:59] <jamman> wizek, well, did you have the hd plugged in during the install?
[03:59] <jimmygoon> nj786, that is what they will walk you through, unless you have specific questions about a step
[03:59] <XSign> hi room
[03:59] <C|icK> hi evrybody
[03:59] <nj786> kimmygooi understand but how will they walk me through when i am not in IRC
[04:00] <nj786> jimmygoon: *
[04:00] <baishi> baishi
[04:00] <jimmygoon> nj786, :P
[04:00] <jamman> wizek, do you get to a selection screen?
[04:01] <nj786> jimmygoon: i understand but how will they walk me through when i am not in IRC
[04:01] <jimmygoon> nj786, I dunna :P
[04:01] <mrssellout> I've tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide but haven't had any success
[04:01] <alecw1> !gedit
[04:01] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[04:01] <alecw1> !code
[04:01] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[04:01] <alecw1> !gvim
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gvim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:01] <alecw1> !KDevelop
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <astro76> alecw1, you can /msg ubotu !whatever if it's for yourself
[04:02] <nj786> jimmygoon: thanks
[04:02] <nj786> lol
[04:02] <alecw1> oh, ok.
[04:02] <jimmygoon> nj786, sorry, I really don't know what to tell you, thats the only thing I can offer you, sorry :S
[04:02] <bruenig> you don't need the ! when you /msg ubotu
[04:02] <ferret_0567> Any tips on how to get 32-bit programs working on 64-bit?
[04:03] <bruenig> ferret, 32 bit will execute fine in 64 bit
[04:03] <hwilde> !64bit | ferret_0567
[04:03] <ubotu> ferret_0567: AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[04:03] <ferret_0567> bruenig: I know that
[04:03] <mysqlchange>  cnfig.status: error:cannot find input file:
[04:04] <ferret_0567> you need to configure stuff first though
[04:04] <nopcode> hey
[04:04] <bruenig> ferret_0567, ok so then my tip is to install the 32 bit programs and then launch them
[04:04] <nopcode> i'm trying to run enemy territory (a 32 bit executable) on my 64 bit xubuntu
[04:04] <kbrooks> ferret_0567, erm
[04:04] <brunner> I wish there was a vmware product that would let me boot OS X in Linux
[04:04] <kbrooks> ferret_0567, you can install 32 bit ubuntu on 64 bit
[04:04] <nopcode> it is very sluggish at times and the reason seems to be a wrong /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1.2
[04:04] <nopcode> theres no "nvidia" string in there
[04:05] <brunner> I'm thinking about getting a mac, but I'd feel a little silly if I couldn't run OS X at all
[04:05] <conorkirkpatrick> shackjack: sorry it is so big :( http://pastebin.ca/619854
[04:05] <kbrooks> nopcode, no, not the reason.
[04:05] <nopcode> how do i uninstall that libGL and install the right one? shouldn't envy take care of that?
[04:05] <taxman> brunner: there's a version of OS X that can be installed on any intel hardware isn't there?
[04:05] <bruenig> brunner, a mac? because you like overpriced hardware?
[04:05] <kbrooks> nopcode, it's not libgl
[04:05] <taxman> someone released a hack IIRC
[04:05] <nopcode> kbrooks: oh
[04:05] <nopcode> kbrooks: what then?
[04:05] <kbrooks> nopcode, skip libgl, and look at
[04:05] <brunner> bruenig: because venture capital is paying for it, so money is no object
[04:05] <kbrooks> !nvidia  | nopcode
[04:05] <ubotu> nopcode: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:06] <rickympl> hi
[04:06] <nopcode> kbrooks: my drivers are installed
[04:06] <Wizek> jammen: My linux freezed :/ could u repeat that if u said anything?
[04:06] <ferret_0567> kbrooks: yeah, I know that
[04:06] <kbrooks> nopcode, 100% sure?
[04:06] <ferret_0567> I'm not a newb
[04:06] <phreck> uhm
[04:06] <phreck> i cant move any of my windows around
[04:06] <kbrooks> ferret_0567, why can't you do that then?
[04:06] <bruenig> brunner, but what is the point, if you can get the same hardware for less money, I mean I will sell you one for 200,000 if you want
[04:06] <brunner> bruenig: I doubt I'll actually get one. I'm having a hard enough time finding a laptop I like in the first place.
[04:06] <nopcode> kbrooks: 26000 fps in glxgears, direct rendering, loads of extensions...
[04:06] <phreck> what have i done wrong
[04:06] <arooni_> when i run glxinfo i get this error: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". (ubuntu 7.04 + ibm thinkpad t61 + intel x 3100 card)  ... any ideas on how to fix?
[04:06] <tomer> how to prevent starting X windows in 7.04 upon reboot?
[04:07] <nopcode> kbrooks: the 64 bit libGL mentions "nvidia"... the 32 bit libgl the game uses doesnt
[04:07] <alecw1> !pdf
[04:07] <jimmygoon> phreck, your windows? your MS Windows, your Pella Windows or your Metacity windows, or your Emerald windows?
[04:07] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[04:07] <alecw1> What program can I make PDF with?
[04:07] <kbrooks> nopcode, ah, use preload, and it'll work then, albeit with some more fixes needed (in theory)
[04:07] <jimmygoon> I'm going to buy a IBM Thinkpad :)
[04:07] <kbrooks> alecw1, open office!
[04:07] <Wizek> jamman: My linux freezed :/ could u repeat that if u said anything?
[04:07] <nopcode> kbrooks: what should i preload?
[04:07] <jimmygoon> alecw1, most programs have a PDF printer, so you can "print" to PDF
[04:07] <alecw1> lol, thanks kbrooks. :)
[04:07] <nopcode> kbrooks: i dont seem to have the 32 bit nvidia opengl library
[04:08] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: Only odd thing I see is ServerLayout is at bottom of xorg when usuaslly at top dunno if that makes a difference..
[04:08] <rickympl> launching anope irc services as normal user and when a user registers sendmail gives this error: can not chdir(/var/spool/mqueue-client/), but if i run anope with sudo all is well, how can i run it as normal user and not get this error, fresh install of ubuntu btw
[04:08] <Stormx2> Guys, umount says "device is busy". How can I find out what is using it?
[04:08] <kbrooks> nopcode, LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/64bitlibgl.so game
[04:08] <Nutubuntu> alecw1, if you can't print directly to pdf you usually can print to ps and then run ps2pdf
[04:08] <jimmygoon> rickympl, you can't. its meant to be run as sudo
[04:08] <nopcode> kbrooks: the 64 bit version wont work with the game
[04:08] <kbrooks> alecw1, better solution to ps2pdf: cups pdf
[04:08] <kbrooks> nopcode, hm, ok. that is all.
[04:09] <rickympl> jimmygoon:- anope says that running as superuser is not a good idea
[04:09] <kbrooks> jimmygoon, no, not by default
[04:09] <nopcode> kbrooks: i suppose envy just forgot to install the 32 drivers
[04:09] <Wizek> jamman: My linux freezed :/ could u repeat that if u said anything?
[04:09] <alecw1> What is the command in the terminal that will replace my cursor with a "skeleton", and it will kill any app? Or, what is the linux equivelant to "Windows Task Manager"?
[04:09] <dissection> !irc
[04:09] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[04:09] <kbrooks> jimmygoon, you installed cups pdf
[04:09] <jimmygoon> you probably need to configure sendmail for regular users
[04:09] <kbrooks> !envy | nopcode
[04:09] <ubotu> nopcode: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[04:09] <jimmygoon> kbrooks, um not for gedit :S
[04:09] <RoC_MasterMind> alecw1, xkill
[04:09] <kbrooks> jimmygoon, ??
[04:09] <Wizek> jamman: are u here? please replly, i'm in big trouble!
[04:09] <alecw1> do I need to do a "sudo"?
[04:09] <jimmygoon> kbrooks, I'm running off a live disc (nothing installed) and I can print to a pdf from gedit :S
[04:09] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: You sure you have nvidia-glx installed? Maybe reinstall?
[04:09] <RoC_MasterMind> alecw1, you can type "ps fax" to see processes..or use a GUI app that does the same only slower.
[04:10] <rickympl> jimmygoon:- ok thx, any suggestions?
[04:10] <kbrooks> Wizek, ask here
[04:10] <mysqlchange> hey #mysql room are bastards where i can tell that they don't work good
[04:10] <nopcode> kbrooks: the last time i checked the official sources didn't have cutting-edge versions of the driver
[04:10] <kbrooks> jimmygoon, can or cant
[04:10] <jimmygoon> rickympl, nah, I've never used sendmail
[04:10] <jimmygoon> kbrooks, _can_
[04:10] <ShackJack> conorkirkpatrick: You want to look for EE (error) or WW warning in xorg...
[04:10] <alecw1> what's a GUI app?
[04:10] <kbrooks> jimmygoon, ah ok. i cant help sorry
[04:10] <lomat> !list
[04:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:10] <Flannel> brunner: not if you get the Intel graphics
[04:10] <alecw1> Sorry, what GUI app can I use as task manager
[04:10] <Wizek> kbrooks: kk, do u know what to do with error 21?
[04:10] <jimmygoon> kbrooks, lol, I don't have a problem :P I'm just advising alecw1
[04:10] <jimmygoon> :)
[04:10] <kbrooks> Wizek, no, ask here generally
[04:10] <hwilde> Any help with this error from dmesg?   usb 3-1: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by ftdi_sio while 'brltty' sets config #1
[04:10] <CerebroJD> I have no idea whats managing my wireless card right now
[04:11] <jimmygoon> CerebroJD, driver-wise or config-wise?
[04:11] <CerebroJD> config-wise
[04:11] <CerebroJD> ndiswrapper is the driver for it
[04:11] <ShackJack> alecw1: system monitor... under admin..
[04:11] <Wizek> Do someone what to do with ERROR 21 during installion, after the restart?
[04:11] <CerebroJD> and I know that *something* is working, cause I can see networks
[04:11] <Wizek> Do someone know what to do with ERROR 21 during installion, after the restart?
[04:11] <CerebroJD> and if the encryption is WEP, I can connect to networks
[04:11] <jimmygoon> CerebroJD, can "See" them with what?
[04:12] <CerebroJD> Network Manager
[04:12] <jimmygoon> that is whats managing the config... what else do you mean
[04:12] <CerebroJD> the problem is when I try to connect to my home WPA2 network
[04:12] <mysqlchange> don't enter in #mysql room they are bastards
[04:12] <taxman> Wizek: search google for the error code you get
[04:12] <CerebroJD> it refuses to connect and I dont know why
[04:12] <jimmygoon> hmm
[04:12] <shadeofgrey> has anybody here had sucvcess with installing ubuntu on the new macbookpro'swith nvidia graphics cards
[04:12] <mysqlchange> they tell bad words.
[04:12] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, dont say that
[04:12] <jimmygoon> CerebroJD, sorry, I dunna anything about the differnt securities
[04:13] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, you will most likely get kicked out
[04:13] <mysqlchange> kbrooks, why,now in the moment i'm thehre
[04:13] <mrssellout> does anyone know why a wireless card would work on the live cd but not after installation?
[04:13] <CerebroJD> To restate the problem:  Feisty will connect to my home network when I'm using WEP security, but not when I'm using WPA2
[04:13] <kbrooks> CerebroJD, yup.
[04:13] <mysqlchange> kbrooks, lets the peoples know that #mysql room speak bad words,and are not kicked
[04:13] <kbrooks> CerebroJD, wpa2 isnt supported in ubuntu.
[04:13] <supertones> clear
[04:13] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, it doesnt matter.
[04:13] <taxman> mrssellout: no nut if you compare the dmesg from each boot it may help find out why
[04:13] <CerebroJD> kbrooks, wtf?!  how about in Gutsy?
[04:13] <jimmygoon> mrssellout, sometimes the restricted drivers get fscked up when you install a new kernel, make sure the restricted modules for your kernel is installed
[04:13] <mysqlchange> kbrooks, it is matter
[04:13] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, you should not incite a fight
[04:14] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, in here
[04:14] <alecw1> I"m having a small problem; I can connect to my modem, but after about 10 minutes, it dies, and I try to reconnect, and eventually it will, but I can't access the internet. My Windows laptop can do it flawlessly... any ideas as to whats wrong?
[04:14] <kbrooks> or in #mysql
[04:14] <mysqlchange> kbrooks, hmmm,i have installed ubuntu
[04:14] <jimmygoon> alecw1, "connecting" to what modem? dsl? cable? etc?
[04:14] <mysqlchange> kbrooks, i will not watch someone to say bad words
[04:14] <Stormx2> mysqlchange: Are you compiling mysql, or something?
[04:14] <alecw1> It's a DSL box with wireless built in, jimmygoon
[04:15] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, so? that does not give you the right to criticize a channel in here by simply announcing that they swear and to not go there.
[04:15] <jimmygoon> alecw1, I'm so sorry
[04:15] <mrssellout> Thanks: I will check the dmesg and restricited modules
[04:15] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, well, you can criticize, but you cant start channel wars
[04:15] <jimmygoon> mysqlchange, then install a plugin to censor "bad words" or leave the channel, this isn't the #criticize#mysqlroom
[04:16] <mysqlchange> kbrooks, this all right to say that mysql room
[04:16] <alecw1> jimmygoon, you're so sorry?   Is that just in Feisty, or in Gutsy etc. too?
[04:16] <mysqlchange> kbrooks, yes man yes that is.
[04:16] <jimmygoon> mysqlchange, what do you want us to say? we're sorry for their bad words, "ya they are bad" ... what?
[04:17] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, it's not allowed in here. it's not on topic. this is a ubuntu support channel, not a war channel.
[04:17] <alecw1> jimmygoon, it's not done me any harm so far, it's just my ubuntu machine that can't hold a connection....
[04:17] <mysqlchange> kbrooks, this is not war channel,this is to peoples know
[04:17] <shadeofgrey> so
[04:17] <teratoma> so what's the cool iTunes clone for ubuntu these days ?
[04:17] <jimmygoon> mysqlchange, then create a #publicserviceannouncements channel
[04:17] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, people in here dont care about mysql
[04:17] <preaction> teratoma: rhythmbox
[04:17] <shadeofgrey> nobody has installed ubunti on the new macbookpro's with nvidia chips?
[04:18] <jimmygoon> alecw1, hm, not really sure, nothing should be causing that problem in ubuntu, it just sends packets like any other time/computer/os/etc
[04:18] <taxman> teratoma: whatever comes up when you plug in your ipod? :)
[04:18] <preaction> shadeofgrey: mbps are using nvidia now? nice
[04:18] <mysqlchange> kbrooks, they care man
[04:18] <jimmygoon> alecw1, check any logs you can find, see if ubuntu is doing something silly, etc
[04:18] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, or a "filled with curse words", you claim, channel like #mysql
[04:18] <mysqlchange> kbrooks, from mysql say that is ubuntu
[04:18] <shadeofgrey> preaction, yeah -- 8600 nvidia mobile chipsets
[04:18] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, no, they do not. period. and i'm ending this discussion at this line.
[04:19] <alecw1> ok jimmygono
[04:19] <alecw1> thanks :()
[04:19] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, because it is offtopic, and we  both are not being civil.
[04:19] <contradiction-pi> how do i take off the delay when opening menus in kmenu, for example. i don't want to wait half a second after i mouse over System to see the stuff i have
[04:19] <alecw1> :)*&
[04:19] <tomer> this inittab change is RETARTDED
[04:19] <tomer> so much more work now god damn it
[04:19] <preaction> shadeofgrey: sucks... my mbp has the ATI chip, making linux loading an effort in fun :( i imagine it would be the same thing as the ATI one, just less failure
[04:19] <tomer> whose fucking idea was it
[04:19] <tomer> ???
[04:19] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, i don't want this to escalate, so please stop tallking about the channel immediately and drop it.
[04:19] <preaction> !ohmy | Toma-
[04:19] <Wizek> Do someone know what to do with ERROR 21 during installion, after the restart?
[04:19] <ubotu> Toma-: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:19] <Flannel> !enter | tomer
[04:19] <ubotu> tomer: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:19] <preaction> er... tomer
[04:19] <mysqlchange> kbrooks, ok then but now peoples know that mysql are bad
[04:19] <taxman> Wizek: did you google for the error like I mentions?
[04:20] <shadeofgrey> preaction, well..  see - ive NEVER had issues installing ubuntuon anty computer with nvidia chips
[04:20] <shadeofgrey> ive never had a single success with ati's
[04:20] <Flannel> tomer: upstart has it's benefits.  They didn't change inittab just for the fun of it afterall
[04:20] <vzduch> mysqlchange: cut the bull****
[04:20] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, you don't claim that mysql is bad. you claim the channel on here is bad. but anyway.
[04:20] <AlgorthmicContro> What x server driver does ubuntu use by default for ATI cards?
[04:20] <Stormx2> kbrooks: Are you in #ubuntu-uk? They gave him some pretty solid advice and he has ignored it.
[04:20] <tomer> thats great... so the benefit for me is that i have to spend 3 hours figouring out how to make X not start on boot up
[04:20] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, drop it now.
[04:21] <mysqlchange> kbrooks,  didn't  you say that you will stop ?
[04:21] <tomer> i used to do it in 1 min
[04:21] <mysqlchange> kbrooks,  what to drop?
[04:21] <contradiction-pi> tomer: isn't it rc-update del xdm default ?
[04:21] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, only if you stop
[04:21] <jimmygoon> Stormx2, what he's doing this other places also? this is just spam.... can't he just be kicked o_0
[04:21] <tomer> i have no idea
[04:21] <preaction> tomer: update-rc.d
[04:21] <contradiction-pi> try that
[04:21] <Wizek> taxman: i did, but they only wrote about raid things and just like tose... but i don't use raid HDDs...
[04:21] <teratoma> tomer: i dont run X on startup, what problem are you having ?
[04:21] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, if you dont drop it, we both will bbe kicked for being offtopic and/or warned. so, your turn please first.
[04:21] <taxman> Wizek: I've never had the error, but some one yesterday asked and a gogole search found the answer
[04:22] <taxman> kbrooks: no not his turn first, be the bigger person and you stop too
[04:22] <tomer> the system boots up with X running
[04:22] <brunner> are there any laptops out there that have a screen smaller than 15", resolution better than 1400x1050, and NVIDIA graphics
[04:22] <alecw1> In thunderbird, when viewing plain text messages, everything is light  grey, and it's driving me crazy.... is anybody else having this problem?
[04:22] <tomer> i want to change the runlevel to 3 where all is running but X
[04:22] <teratoma> tomer: ubuntu?  kubuntu ?
[04:22] <tomer> i used to go to inittab
[04:22] <kbrooks> taxman, all right
[04:22] <tomer> and change the 5 to a 3
[04:22] <Flannel> !enter | tomer
[04:22] <ubotu> tomer: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:23] <tomer> it is ubuntu
[04:23] <mysqlchange> hmm
[04:23] <kbrooks> tomer, yes, but ubuntu isn't necessarily a standard linux.
[04:23] <teratoma> tomer:  i think the way inittab is interpreted is different for each unix.
[04:23] <mysqlchange> kbrooks, i see that you leave?
[04:23] <vzduch> tomer: to my knowledge *buntu has changed the runlevels so that runlevels 2 - 5 are essentially the same
[04:23] <alecw1> !thunderbifd
[04:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thunderbifd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:23] <kbrooks> tomer, it has to change. or it doesn't.
[04:23] <alecw1> !thunderbird
[04:23] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[04:23] <teratoma> tomer: i think you should just update gdm with update-rc.d
[04:24] <tomer> how do i do that..?
[04:24] <tomer> by the way, change should also maintain backwards compatibility
[04:24] <Stormx2> alecw1: I've told you this earlier. /msg ubotu if it's for yourself.
[04:24] <teratoma> tomer: update-rd.d gdm remove
[04:24] <Stormx2> alecw1: That's a final warning.
[04:24] <kbrooks> tomer, upstart has started trying to, but it will be very temporary.
[04:24] <kbrooks> tomer, but that is a guess
[04:24] <teratoma> tomer: i mean 'sudo update-rc.d gdm remove' .  like i said, the way inittab is intepreted is different in ubuntu / redhat / freebsd
[04:25] <tomer> ok thanx ill try that
[04:25] <mysqlchange> kbrooks, you are in mysql,insist on op,bad person.
[04:25] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, dont start.
[04:25] <Toma-> !hello | preaction
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <preaction> tomer: sometimes change requires breaking backwards compat, that should not stop forward progress (you have to weigh the good with the bad). upstart replaces a bunch of system daemons and ensures that you can't mess up the order of init scripts
[04:25] <Toma-> right..
[04:26] <preaction> Toma-: i got careless with a tab-completion, many apologies
[04:26] <mysqlchange> i love ubuntu
[04:26] <mysqlchange> kisss kisss
[04:26] <Toma-> preaction: no problem :)
[04:26] <gnomefreak> mysqlchange: join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything not related to support for ubuntu
[04:27] <tomer> ok fine.. i hope it will work out
[04:27] <mysqlchange> gnomefreak, look in up that insist on ubuntu
[04:27] <choronzon> hi. im using this guide to install ubuntu from hard drive, http://news.softpedia.com/news/Alternative-Installation-Methods-for-Feisty-53461.shtml. but i have a problem, my monitor only goes up to 800x600 and it seems the live desktop is in a higher resolution, any way to change it? thanks!
[04:28] <Stormx2> !xorg | choronzon
[04:28] <ubotu> choronzon: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:28] <Dark-Star> Hey all I am having serious problem my browser is not openng many pages I install Opera but same  result:(
[04:28] <mysqlchange> Stormx2, the solution,man
[04:28] <Wizek> jammer, have i spore to u recently?
[04:28] <gnomefreak> mysqlchange: nothing you stated in an hour had anything to do directly with support
[04:28] <Wizek> jammer, or to jammen?
[04:28] <Dark-Star> plz help some 1
[04:28] <ziggy> Can anyone tell me if there is any way to do a no cd crack for Battle field 2 using wine? My cd is cracked and scratched, and I dont wanna spend a week downloading an ISO. Is there any way to get a no cd patch?
[04:28] <mysqlchange> gnomefreak, it was that apt-get install fail to update
[04:28] <supertones> i'm trying to get into high level scripting what language perl or python do you guys think is the best to start with?
[04:29] <Flannel> choronzon: You might check out these howtos instead: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-b751f1c9b3b4e0c27d6bc8828a831de92eb57a70
[04:29] <Dark-Star> Some1  tell plz
[04:29] <taxman> ziggy: get some brasso and use some elbow grease. you can fix most scratches that haven't hit the data layer
[04:29] <vzduch> Dark-Star: details please
[04:30] <choronzon> flamesrock, Stormx2 thanks
[04:30] <Wizek> taxman: i did, but they only wrote about raid things and just like tose... but i don't use raid HDDs...
[04:30] <Wizek> taxman: sorry, mistell
[04:30] <ziggy> tasman: No dude, the cd is ruined, its cracked in half, and I tried that already.
[04:30] <Wizek> Do someone know what to do with ERROR 21 during installion, after the restart?
[04:30] <gnomefreak> mysqlchange: well it must have beena  while ago because you have been offtopic for a long time. either ask your question again if it was not answered or join #ubuntu-offtopic to talk to kbrooks on why he left or anything else that is non support related
[04:30] <Dark-Star> My browser is not opening any page not even ggoogle except1  or like ubuntu forum. The problem happened after I cleard the history after lots of bulk in my history after that its not opening pages .. I thought installing other browser would do but same with opera :( But my net is fine
[04:30] <mysqlchange> gnomefreak, who is kbrooks i don't know him
[04:31] <nickrud> um de dum de dum
[04:31] <vzduch> Dark-Star: what's the error?
[04:31] <gnomefreak> mysqlchange: you have been talking to him. so you know enough to know who he is.
[04:31] <Dark-Star> no erro
[04:31] <Dark-Star> error
[04:31] <gnomefreak> mysqlchange: this is not a debate
[04:31] <Dark-Star> tha pages did not show up
[04:31] <Dark-Star> some hanged or some keeps on loading :(
[04:31] <Dark-Star> I am on 256 kbps net
[04:32] <mysqlchange> gnomefreak, bah,i don't know this,is this animal
[04:32] <kbrooks> mysqlchange, i am not an animal.
[04:32] <pavan> ubuntu / debian newbee question: How do i convert a software package release for i386 to work with x86_64??
[04:32] <teratoma> Dark-Star: you could delete your .opera folder and start over, if you don't have any bookmarks that you need
[04:32] <nickrud> pavan, recompile
[04:32] <vzduch> Dark-Star: sounds pretty slow.. ask your provider or try w/ another OS (live CD/Windows)
[04:32] <pavan> is there any documentation for this.. is this app specific??
[04:32] <nebopolis> AlgorthmicContro: at least for my ati card it used the open-source "ati" driver
[04:32] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, thank you
[04:32] <nickrud> pavan, what in particular
[04:32] <pavan> hey nickrud.. so the idea is to get the source.. compile..
[04:33] <daveriver> a question, can the livecd read ntfs partition and am I able to move files from there to a fat32 partition?
[04:33] <Dark-Star> and how to over come this error in firefox
[04:33] <nickrud> pavan, yes, unless there's a package.
[04:33] <Flannel> pavan: or just download the 64bit dev
[04:33] <Flannel> pavan: deb, even.  If it's in the repos.
[04:33] <vzduch> daveriver: you won't be able to move, just copy.. move would require write access on the NTFS partition which is not possible w/ the live CD
[04:33] <pavan> nickrud.. the last time i asked about C++ IDE.. ajuntha was specified.. so looked around for it.. and found a version 1.2.4 in ubuntu repo.. but ajuntha.org talked about 2.2.0
[04:33] <teratoma> what do i need to download to get rhythmbox to read m4a files ?
[04:34] <pavan> googling for 2.2.0 gives me a i386 version of deb files..
[04:34] <daveriver> oh ok but I can copy stuff from ntfs to fat32 correct
[04:34] <taxman> teratoma: doesn't it read non DRM'd files by default?
[04:34] <Dark-Star> ok I'll ask my ISP btw thanks :) How to overcome this error in Firefox.. My net seems to be fine while downloading updates only happen while browsing
[04:34] <SlimG> Language question: what is the shortened version of longer series of words called? example of what i mean -> AMD = Advanced Micro Devices (then AMD would be a ... ?)
[04:34] <nickrud> pavan, that is old
[04:34] <vzduch> pavan: you mean anjuta?
[04:35] <seanp2k> does anyone have a default sources.list I can look at?
[04:35] <kbrooks> gnomefreak?
[04:35] <pavan> man...yes anjuta.. sorry
[04:35] <vzduch> SlimG: acronym?
[04:35] <gnomefreak> SlimG: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:35] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: ?
[04:35] <teratoma> taxman: I can read the m4a file in VLC, so I assume the file is not under DRM, unless VLC is more awesome than I thought
[04:35] <mysqlchange> gnomefreak,  if you want to speak a offtopic go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:35] <taxman> teratoma: I don't know I just thought it read them by default
[04:35] <SlimG> vzduch: I believe that's the one :) thank you :)
[04:35] <nickrud> pavan, looks like anjuta is only now saying 2.x is stable, that's probably why ubuntu still has 1.x
[04:35] <kbrooks> bbl
[04:36] <gnomefreak> mysqlchange: what is your reason for being here exactly?
[04:36] <conorkirkpatrick> Does anybodys irc log go back a LONG way>
[04:36] <conorkirkpatrick> ?*
[04:36] <seanp2k> when i run apt-get it tells me it can't read my package lists
[04:36] <daveriver> ty for the help vzduch
[04:36] <mysqlchange> gnomefreak, solution
[04:36] <Flannel> !logs | conorkirkpatrick
[04:36] <ubotu> conorkirkpatrick: Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[04:36] <gnomefreak> mysqlchange: solution to your problem?
[04:37] <mysqlchange> gnomefreak, hmm,for ubuntu
[04:37] <gnomefreak> a solution to ubuntu?
[04:38] <mysqlchange> apt-get not working
[04:38] <seanp2k> yes
[04:38] <vzduch> mysqlchange: error msg?
[04:38] <mysqlchange> and then gaim fail and exit from ubuntu channel
[04:38] <gnomefreak> mysqlchange: well i suggest you put the full command and errors on pastebin
[04:38] <nickrud> seanp2k, apt-get update ?
[04:38] <seanp2k> see topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501143
[04:38] <conorkirkpatrick> flannel: I was trying to find the last couple of times where shackjack addressed me, because I was away for a bit
[04:38] <conorkirkpatrick> And the online log doesn't have it
[04:39] <mysqlchange> gnomefreak, maybe someone hack
[04:39] <seanp2k> too long to paste here, basically I get Reading package lists... Error! on apt-get update
[04:39] <programme1> hi.  i seem to have `lost` the bottom `bar` (the one like windows taskbar) on my gnome desktop (not sure what i did :o) ..  can anyone  tell me how to get it back?
[04:39] <vzduch> good night folks :)
[04:40] <Flannel> programme1: right click near the bottom of the screen, "add panel" and then right click the panel, "add to panel" to add things back to it
[04:40] <nickrud> seanp2k, not the problem, but you do need to uncomment the main lines
[04:40] <shane2peru> hey my gaim is not working correctly
[04:40] <Stormx2> Folks, what command is called to re-generate grub's menu.lst?
[04:40] <gnomefreak> mysqlchange: are you going to give us the errors or not? best to use pastebin
[04:41] <seanp2k> nickrud: do you have a default sources.list?
[04:41] <Flannel> !easysource | seanp2k
[04:41] <ubotu> seanp2k: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:41] <mysqlchange> gnomefreak, one moment
[04:41] <gnomefreak> Flannel: its outdated
[04:41] <Flannel> gnomefreak: oh?  fair enough
[04:41] <gnomefreak> Flannel: it hasnt been kept up
[04:41] <scooter> mysqlchange: try http://pastebin.on.nimp.org/233fffg
[04:41] <nickrud> seanp2k, yeah, but you have something else wrong
[04:41] <mysqlchange> gnomefreak, i'm searching for it,
[04:41] <h1pp1e> hi
[04:41] <pavan> sorry.. something was up with my X.. it just froze.. i was just talking about converting a i386 release of anjuta to amd64 version...anjutha version i am talking about is 2.2
[04:41] <mysqlchange> gnomefreak, bah,i can't see the icons
[04:41] <h1pp1e> somebody help me!!!
[04:41] <conorkirkpatrick> !hi | h1pp1e
[04:41] <ubotu> h1pp1e: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:42] <gnomefreak> damn
[04:42] <seanp2k> nickrud: i installed a beta (i think) of SQLite to support the dev version of aircrack-ng, maybe that has something to do with it?
[04:42] <pavan> short of building the anjutha source.. is there any other way
[04:42] <shane2peru> gaim isn't working with yahoo for me, all I can see are squares when someone replies
[04:42] <h1pp1e> what is the group of the user apache2 ??
[04:42] <Flannel> h1pp1e: www-data:www-data
[04:42] <shane2peru> hellllpppp
[04:43] <h1pp1e> Flannel, thanks
[04:43] <Dark-Star> Hey The problem still is there
[04:43] <Dark-Star> I deleted both .opera and .mozilla but still same error
[04:43] <Flannel> h1pp1e: that's configurable in apache2.conf, by the way
[04:43] <wifenfeffer> hrrm
[04:43] <programme1> thanks flannel.
[04:43] <shane2peru> anyone out there use gaim?/???
[04:44] <Dark-Star> Hey
[04:44] <nickrud> seanp2k, don't know, that is an odd one. Flannel gave you a good link, start there I'd guess
[04:44] <Dark-Star> The browsing problem still there
[04:44] <h1pp1e> Flannel, what is the commad for view the users and groups exists in my computer...?
[04:44] <wilberfan> Oh, man...who were the 2 dudes that were trying to help me with my screen rez on my Inspiron 1100?
[04:44] <wifenfeffer> help, checkinstall is giving me an error:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/crtbegin.o', which is also in package gcc-4.1
[04:44] <shane2peru> any one use yahoo messenger?
[04:44] <Dark-Star> I deleted .opra and .mozilla folder but nothing happened
[04:44] <wilberfan> Started with S's....
[04:44] <wifenfeffer> but my package doesn't even have that file :(
[04:45] <milllmannn> anyone know what I can do to resolve these issues when compiling PHP5 from source?
[04:45] <milllmannn> double to string conversion tests [Zend/tests/double_to_string.phpt]
[04:45] <milllmannn> Bug #16069 (ICONV transliteration failure) [ext/iconv/tests/bug16069.phpt]
[04:45] <milllmannn> iconv stream filter [ext/iconv/tests/iconv_stream_filter.phpt]
[04:45] <milllmannn> XMLWriter: libxml2 XML Writer, Elements & Attributes [ext/xmlwriter/tests/007.phpt]
[04:45] <milllmannn> XMLWriter: libxml2 XML Writer, Elements & Attributes [ext/xmlwriter/tests/OO_007.phpt]
[04:45] <GenNMX> !paste | milllmannn
[04:45] <ubotu> milllmannn: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:46] <cotyrothery> Is it possible to integrate ubuntu and xp
[04:46] <milllmannn> i know...
[04:46] <Flannel> cotyrothery: define integrate
[04:46] <gnomefreak> than use it milllmannn
[04:46] <GenNMX> !flood | milllmannn
[04:46] <artchy> hi
[04:46] <gnomefreak> GenNMX: he knows already
[04:46] <milllmannn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29979/
[04:47] <cotyrothery> Flannel: I heard of a seamless integration were they run at the same time
[04:47] <Flannel> cotyrothery: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization  Might be one solution to what you're looking for
[04:47] <artchy> does anyone know how i can switch from red hat 9 to Ubuntu 7?
[04:47] <cotyrothery> Flannel: I'm on xp now
[04:47] <RoC_MasterMind> artchy, sure...backup your stuff..then install Feisty!@
[04:48] <Flannel> artchy: If you have a home partition, you can reinstall around that.
[04:48] <gnomefreak> artchy: download ubuntu install cd/dvd and install it
[04:48] <teratoma> what's that goofy thing that lets you run unix on top of windows... no not vmware, it's acutally running it as a windows app.  i can't remember the name of it
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> virtual pc
[04:48] <artchy> I backed up my data (music, pictures, important files) already
[04:48] <teratoma> no it's something else
[04:49] <artchy> so i download feisty?
[04:49] <Gamma-X> anyone know of a data forensics channel on any server? sorry to be off topic
[04:49] <rcy> teratoma: wine?
[04:49] <h1pp1e> i have a question
[04:49] <Flannel> artchy: right.  Desktop CD or Alternate CD, alt CD has support for things like LVM, if you're looking into that
[04:49] <h1pp1e> where is the mysql.sock???
[04:50] <programme1> teratoma -- cygwin? or that mk thing (Cant remember name - think it begins with mk)
[04:50] <artchy> I have an Ubuntu 5 CD (installation CD and Live CD)
[04:50] <artchy> but i want the latest one, ubuntu 7
[04:51] <artchy> so i am currently downloading it off firefox
[04:51] <gnomefreak> artchy: 7.04
[04:51] <h1pp1e> where is the file mysql.sock??
[04:51] <h1pp1e> what is the path of the socks ??
[04:52] <RoC_MasterMind> Why do people leave off the last part of the Ubuntu versio numbers?
[04:52] <gnomefreak> h1pp1e: did you look in /etc/.....
[04:52] <nickrud> h1pp1e, /var/run/mysqld
[04:52] <h1pp1e> thanks :D
[04:52] <Flannel> RoC_MasterMind: because they don't know any better.  They're used to one number versions.  instead of year.month
[04:52] <artchy> so what do i do after the download is 100%? do i burn it on a blank DVD and then rebot and install Ubuntu.
[04:53] <Flannel> artchy: right.  Burn on media at 4x, and reboot with it
[04:53] <gnomefreak> artchy: is it dvd or cd iso you downloaded?
[04:53] <artchy> ok thanks a lot
[04:53] <artchy> i can do either
[04:53] <artchy> which ever is better
[04:53] <gnomefreak> burn as cd image if you downloading the cdrom version
[04:53] <gnomefreak> dvd as dvd image i assume
[04:54] <artchy> I'm not sure what version i'm downloading, gnomefreak... I do know it's the desktop version
[04:55] <seanp2k> so i fixed my sources.list but aptitude still doesn't work as i suspected
[04:55] <sn0> nite
[04:55] <Flannel> artchy: What's the file name?
[04:55] <wifenfeffer> can anyone help me fix  checkinstall problem ?  I'ts trying to install the file /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/crtbegin.o even though it's unrelated, and refusing to install
[04:55] <gnomefreak> the version is on the page you got it from, this is handy to know becasue if you install the wrong version you could be unable to boot it
[04:55] <premier_> !grubfix
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grubfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <premier_> !grub
[04:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:56] <DrkCodeman> they ever port blindwrite to linux?
[04:56] <artchy> file name is: ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[04:56] <gnomefreak> artchy: than you are downloading 7.04
[04:56] <Flannel> artchy: that's the CD version
[04:56] <sebas_> artchy: are you doing a full install or dual boot?
[04:56] <artchy> oh ok, sorry
[04:57] <artchy> I'm not really sure... just want Ubuntu. If it keeps redhat9 on a different partition or something i won't mind
[04:58] <sebas_> well, good luck artchy
[04:58] <artchy> thanks.
[04:58] <supermatthew> i need help, im getting an error on install(using Microsoft Virtural PC)
[04:58] <pablasso> how can i 'turn off' compiz fusion without uninstalling it?
[04:58] <taxman> supermatthew: what's the error?
[04:59] <artchy> I'm leaving for a week so I won't get to use Ubuntu for a while, i have only tonight to finish downloading and installing. So i really do need the luck, heh.
[05:00] <artchy> one last question guys.
[05:00] <brunner> does anyone know if there's such thing as a modern laptop with a screen smaller than 15", resolution equal to or greater than 1400x1050, and with NVIDIA graphics?
[05:01] <artchy> When the download is complete, where can i find it, will it be under "/home/nick/Desktop"?
[05:01] <wifenfeffer> brunner, dell sells one
[05:01] <CerebroJD> Havent heard/seen of one
[05:01] <CerebroJD> orly?  MX 1210?
[05:01] <pablasso> i want to use metacity instead of compiz just for some minutes, before i just used beryl-manager, but how can i do it with compizfusion?
[05:01] <brunner> wifenfeffer: if they do, I haven't been able to find it
[05:01] <wifenfeffer> brunner, look at the 1421
[05:01] <supermatthew> im having the folowing error when running "Check CD for defects" "could not find kernel image lesystem.manifest-desktopPX$"
[05:02] <Flannel> artchy: It'll be whereever your firefox downloads to
[05:02] <taxman> pablasso: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[05:03] <BlendArt> hello I get this error "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[05:03] <BlendArt> open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy"
[05:03] <brunner> wifenfeffer: is that an Inspiron or XPS?
[05:03] <artchy> oh ok... that must be desktop. thanks. bye bye, gonna turn my PC on "lock screen" and wait for Ubuntu to finish downloading. thanks!
[05:03] <taxman> pablasso: I don't have it running but it's possible System -> Preferences -> desktop effects would work to turn it off
[05:03] <wifenfeffer> brunner, either should come with an nvidia card and a high res screen option
[05:04] <supermatthew> anyone?
[05:04] <arooni_> how can i tell what version of xorg i have installed?
[05:04] <wifenfeffer> supermatthew, don't bother asking, noone will answer
[05:04] <brunner> wifenfeffer: I've looked at what they have but can't find anything with better than 12__ x ___ resolution on less than a 15" screen
[05:05] <wifenfeffer> brunner, 2 questions..  1) what's wrong with a 15.4 ?  it's .4 inches over your requested size, and 2) why do you need the increased size ?
[05:06] <cereal> brunner: Lenovo Thinkpad X60 or similar - their tablet should do that.
[05:06] <brunner> cereal: thanks, I haven't looked at their tablet
[05:06] <Flannel> brunner: the 14" T60s with Intel graphics do that.  I just bought myself one.
[05:06] <cereal> brunner: my friend has one and pretty sure its at 1400 minimally
[05:07] <brunner> wifenfeffer: I could live with 15.4, I guess... I really wanted to keep it down to 14" though
[05:07] <supermatthew> ill figure it out
[05:07] <brunner> Flannel: I really desire NVIDIA graphics
[05:07] <pimpster_mcgee> i'm stumped and have searched everywhere, can someone point me in the right direction of scrolling animated desktop items
[05:07] <pimpster_mcgee> icons that is
[05:08] <wifenfeffer> brunner, I've got a 1521 about to ship in a few days, and it's a very capable system worth looking into
[05:09] <brunner> excellent! the ThinkPad X60 Tablet has it!
[05:09] <brunner> but I'm not sure about the graphics yet
[05:10] <brunner> I can't tell what graphics these ThinkPads ship with
[05:10] <cereal> brunner: They're all Intels / ATI chips.
[05:11] <brunner> lame.
[05:11] <cereal> brunner:  They dont do NVIDIA on the T60's I don't believe.
[05:11] <Sam__> Does anyone know how hard it is to change from KDE to gnome whitout reinstalling????
[05:11] <Wizek> Do someone know what to do with GRUB ERROR 21 during installion, after the restart?
[05:11] <brunner> so there's not a damn laptop in the world with the specs I want
[05:11] <teratoma> How do I determine what driver my wireless card is using ?
[05:11] <cereal> brunner: Not off the top of my mind.
[05:11] <wifenfeffer> teratoma, lsmod
[05:11] <CerebroJD> teratoma, one second, I might know
[05:12] <cereal> brunner:  Most companies screw the NVIDIA chips to save money on laptops where most of their users wont know the difference anyways.
[05:12] <brunner> how does compiz act on Intel graphics?
[05:12] <Sam__> teratoma, use fedora.  its really good with wireless stuff.. hehe
[05:12] <taxman> Wizek: asking the same question isn't likely to help. please read the FAQ about asking better questions
[05:13] <cereal> brunner:  I don't know at all...never done it.  My thinkpad is an ATI chipset - and my friend doesnt run linux.
[05:13] <CerebroJD> dunno
[05:13] <wifenfeffer> Wizek, are you using sata ?
[05:13] <Sam__> HAS anyone changed from KDE to gnome without reinstalling ???  how was it?
[05:13] <brunner> there's some bug with compiz that causes black windows on my current graphics chipset. I just want something with enough video RAM that I can run compiz
[05:14] <cereal> Sam__:  You should just need to install gnome via a package manager or apt-get install
[05:14] <Sam__> cereal  i know  im doing it now..
[05:14] <Sam__> what im asking is how was it?  easy ?? hard???
[05:14] <wifenfeffer> brunner, intel chipsets will run compiz, nvidias will too, just much better.
[05:14] <cereal> Sam__:  I've done it before - nothing to it.
[05:14] <Sam__> cereal  cool.
[05:15] <cereal> Sam__:  At least thats what I remember....what actually happened may be different lol.
[05:15] <Sam__> cereal hehehe  isnt that always the case!!!hahaha
[05:16] <Sam__> i HATE KDE!!!! its rather pants... i cant wait to get back onto Gnome.
[05:16] <wifenfeffer> rather pants ?
[05:16] <Optimus55> rather pants.. lol
[05:16] <Sam__> wifenfeffer  good point... its totally pants.
[05:17] <wifenfeffer> what the hell is pants ?
[05:17] <Sam__> are you guys american??
[05:17] <wifenfeffer> only pants I know are the ones I wear
[05:17] <cereal> i dont wear pants.
[05:17] <Optimus55> yes but that doesnt make it good. its still pants
[05:17] <Sam__> not those pants..in the UK we say pants  but it means crap
[05:18] <wifenfeffer> !language Sam__
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language sam__ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <wifenfeffer> !language
[05:18] <Optimus55> so can pants in my pants?
[05:18] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:18] <cereal> ROFL
[05:18] <wifenfeffer> !language > Sam__
[05:18] <brunner> graphics chipsets are usually built into laptop motherboards, right? I mean, it's not possible to transplant video chipsets, right?
[05:18] <wifenfeffer> brunner, it's possible in newer systems I think
[05:18] <Sam__> thanks for the warning but i hardly think thats bad language wifenfeffer!!!!
[05:18] <cereal> brunner:  its plausable.
[05:18] <cereal> you'd have to do some research.
[05:19] <xtknight> brunner: no, you can't really transplant them
[05:19] <pimpster_mcgee> anyone know if there is a .ape plugin for amarok?
[05:19] <xtknight> not without special equipment
[05:19] <cereal> Video cards are usually just that, cards in laptops now.  But every manufacturer can have different types.  I've done it on a laptop before but it would be VERY easy to get something that simply would not work.
[05:20] <wifenfeffer> I pantsed myself :(
[05:20] <Sam__> hahahaah
[05:20] <fajro> http://www.iloveubuntu.com ???
[05:20] <cereal> Plus taking apart the laptop could uhm...be a disaster.  Last time I saw someone open one up, they fried it as a pin landed on the motherboard right before they turned it on...bad news.  But its very plausable if you do your research.
[05:21] <cereal> wow....
[05:21] <Optimus55> mmm... i like pants
[05:21] <wifenfeffer> cereal, never had any problems opening laptops before, it's completely safe as long as you're cautious
[05:22] <cereal> wifenfeffer:  Agreed - note I was not the one stupid enough to destroy it - just what i happened to observe at a LAN Party.
[05:22] <cereal> wifenfeffer:  I've opened many laptops and such.
[05:23] <brunner> I've never had a problem opening up laptops before, aside from losing screws every now and then
[05:23] <brunner> I can't imagine why it'd be more risky than opening up a desktop
[05:23] <hansin321> Anyone know where I disable the system bell (at a lower level than in Gnome, as I am running XFCE)?  Speakers are fine, but the bell is killing me.    I suppose I can then add it to the blacklist so it doesn't reload at reboot.
[05:25] <fajro> anibody knows why www.iloveubuntu.com redirects to microsoft.com ??  :-P
[05:25] <wifenfeffer> okay, I am FED UP with checkinstall.  I've been adding files to --exclude for some time now, and it just keeps pulling in more.
[05:25] <wifenfeffer> hansin321, the alternative is to open your case and just disconnect the jumper.
[05:26] <wifenfeffer> and now i've specified a file to exclude, and it refuses to exclude it
[05:26] <seanp2k> k
[05:26] <brunner> I really really dig the ThinkPad X60 Tablet, but I hate that it has an ATI card. I wonder how well it works under Linux. I've always made an effort to stick with NVIDIA in the past.
[05:26] <hansin321> wifenfeffer: But it is a laptop, and as the thread above is saying...  Well, you know...
[05:27] <hansin321> But I found it, so thanks.  It was pcspkr.
[05:27] <wifenfeffer> hansin321, as I was saying in the above thread, why not open laptops, it's perfectly safe :P
[05:27] <DrkCodeman> dpkg-deb: `nerolinux-<IP_ADDRESS>-x86_64.rpm' is not a debian format archive
[05:27] <Flannel> brunner: Have you checked out the 61s?  Theyve got nvidia available.
[05:28] <wifenfeffer> DrkCodeman, alien
[05:28] <brunner> Flannel: no high-resolution screen =/
[05:28] <brunner> it's like you have to pick
[05:28] <DrkCodeman> cody@drkcodeman:~$ rpm -i nerolinux-<IP_ADDRESS>-x86_64.rpm
[05:28] <DrkCodeman> rpm: To install rpm packages on Debian systems, use alien. See README.Debian.
[05:28] <brunner> maybe I could buy two and swap screens LoL
[05:28] <brunner> just kidding.
[05:28] <DrkCodeman> no clue :(
[05:28] <Optimus55> QUESTION: 7.04 live cd asks to restart b4 it enables nvidia desktop effects. is there a way to enable the effects without actually having to restart?
[05:29] <DrkCodeman> alien?
[05:29] <brunner> or maybe more realistically, swap graphics cards
[05:29] <Flannel> Optimus55: just restarts the Xserver, not the liveCD
[05:29] <Optimus55> cus a restart would mean just booting the os all over again...
[05:29] <wifenfeffer> DrkCodeman, it's a program name
[05:29] <DrkCodeman> oh
[05:29] <Optimus55> Flannel: how?
[05:29] <Flannel> DrkCodeman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto
[05:29] <Flannel> Optimus55: ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:29] <DrkCodeman> why doesnt dpkg work?
[05:29] <Flannel> DrkCodeman: because dpkg only works with deb files
[05:29] <DrkCodeman> isn't that what it is?
[05:29] <Flannel> DrkCodeman: it's an rpm
[05:29] <wifenfeffer> rpm != deb
[05:30] <hansin321> wifenfeffer: I just got on, so only caught the end of the thread.    But removing the k mod worked great.  I can figure enough to blacklist it for future.
[05:30] <DrkCodeman> rpm -i should work then
[05:30] <Optimus55> Flannel: k thanks
[05:30] <unagi> Jordan_U, thank you
[05:30] <wifenfeffer> hehe, alright hansin321
[05:30] <Flannel> DrkCodeman: better to use alien and then dpkg
[05:30] <unagi> Jordan_U while your suggestion didnt initially work i came up with a similar idea that does work
[05:31] <unagi> sudo killall requires a password of course so there for it doesnt work well when ran at the start of the session......so i just took out awn and wrote the script to start awn if xorgorig.conf exists......that way when the composite is off awn wont load.......then a separate script to run maya
[05:33] <Wizek> Do someone know what to do with GRUB ERROR 21 during installion, during the restart? xD
[05:33] <Szeraax> WisdomWolf: Hi again, were you able to find help?
[05:34] <tofaffy> HA! I FOUND THE FIX! Just one problem...the fix only runs on windows.
[05:34] <xhaan> fix for what?
[05:35] <LeChacal> does anyone know much about Ubuntu Ultimate because i did the upgrade install thing that is on its desktop and i received an ton of errors and i dont think that everything installed it seemed like the install blew up part of the way through. What did get installed seems to work works.
[05:35] <tofaffy> Well...ubuntu and the current bios for my dell pc don't work well with my usb hub...supposedly, if I flash to the new bios...it will fix that...only one problem...the bio flash program is only for windows...and I have no idea how to do this.
[05:35] <unagi> im totally out of things to complain about
[05:35] <unagi> linux rocks my socks
[05:36] <banlieue> you say that in here daily lol
[05:36] <banlieue> see you tomorrow with your new problems ;P
[05:36] <xhaan> tofaffy, you wouldnt happened to have windows installed as dual boot would you?
[05:36] <unagi> i know
[05:36] <unagi> lol i always find something to gripe about
[05:36] <tofaffy> xhaan, no
[05:36] <unagi> but this was a big thing for me........so anything from here on is probably  minor
[05:36] <dissection> !seen dvd
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen dvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <unagi> im dual booting with vista....
[05:36] <dissection> oops
[05:36] <Optimus55> i must say, support in this chan DEFINITELY beats windows...
[05:36] <dissection> !dvd
[05:36] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:37] <unagi> windows has support?
[05:37] <Flannel> LeChacal: Ubuntu Ultimate is a third party version that has a bunch of stupid things done to it.  You're better off getting an official version and then adding the stuff you want to it from the official repositories
[05:37] <strabes> Optimus55: that's because there is no windows support channel
[05:37] <Optimus55> yeh.. "technet"
[05:37] <Wizek> Do someone know what to do with GRUB ERROR 21 during installion, during the restart?
[05:37] <unagi> interesting
[05:37] <xhaan> tofaffy, you may be stuck... unless you want to take the chance of trying to run it with wine
[05:37] <dissection> !rip
[05:37] <unagi> anyone here have a customized grub screen?
[05:37] <dissection> !dvdrip
[05:37] <dissection> !dvd-rip
[05:37] <strabes> Wizek: http://www.mepis.org/node/7330
[05:37] <tofaffy> and possibly kill my whole computer...HELL no
[05:37] <ubotu> For information about the Sound Juicer ripping application see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping. To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar
[05:37] <tofaffy> :)
[05:37] <John`> Wizek: are you dual booting?
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdrip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd-rip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <strabes> Wizek: http://www.google.com/search?q=grub+error+21
[05:37] <dissection> !dvd-ripper
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd-ripper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <John`> Wizek: with 2 or more hardrives
[05:38] <dissection> !dvdripper
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdripper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <pi-meson> I'm looking to configure a new service to start/stop through an init script -- is there an ubuntu initscript template I should use?
[05:38] <Flannel> !fishing | dissection
[05:38] <ubotu> dissection: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:38] <xhaan> tofaffy, yeah i didnt think you would want to lol
[05:38] <unagi> am i the only one that doesnt like KDE?
[05:38] <Szeraax> dissection: dude, its called "dd"\
[05:38] <dissection> Oh, okay
[05:38] <tofaffy> unagi, I dun like KDE
[05:38] <dissection> Sorry
[05:38] <unagi> cool
[05:38] <Flannel> !dvd | dissection
[05:38] <ubotu> dissection: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:38] <xhaan> tofaffy, though you could install windows and then flash it then reinstall ubuntu
[05:38] <dissection> Szeraax: I didn't understand. What is that?
[05:38] <tofaffy> taht would take to long :P
[05:38] <Szeraax> a tool to rip any dvd or cd
[05:39] <Szeraax> example
[05:39] <unagi> tofaffy: what problem are u having?
[05:39] <dissection> Szeraax: How do I run it?
[05:39] <tofaffy> I have the fix...
[05:39] <tofaffy> I need to install the new bios for my dell pc.
[05:39] <dissection> I'm looking for converting them to XviD
[05:39] <Szeraax> dissection:  "dd if=/dev/cdrom/ of=/home/user/Desktop/blah.iso
[05:39] <Szeraax> input file
[05:39] <Szeraax> and output file
[05:39] <unagi> oh oh oh avant window navigator is updated......sweet joy pops!
[05:39] <Szeraax> the in is the device to copy
[05:39] <dissection> Szeraax: Does it convert them to XviD format?
[05:39] <Optimus55> oh pants!
[05:39] <cafuego> dissection: `tovid'
[05:40] <Szeraax> nope
[05:40] <cafuego> dissection: or dvd:rip
[05:40] <Szeraax> but it will take any copy protection
[05:40] <Szeraax> and you can use it to convert between many file types... (iso, .bin, .mds...)
[05:40] <Toma-> dissection: k9copy is a fantastic app.
[05:41] <unagi> gnome or die!
[05:41] <unagi> =)
[05:41] <unagi> sorry
[05:41] <LeChacal> Flannel: I know that it is a third party thing i have regular Ubuntu also the Ultimate version was something that i was just playing with on a extra hard drive that i had i was just wondering if anyone out here had and experience with it.
[05:41] <PanzerMKZ> when you mount something it puts an icon on the desktop. How do stop it from putting the icon on the desktop
[05:41] <dissection> Toma-: Okay, I'm checking it out.
[05:41] <unagi> why would you want to do that PanzerMKZ
[05:42] <PanzerMKZ> because I have alot of stuff mounted in the same spot. I don't need icons on all my desktops that basicly point to the same place
[05:43] <Flannel> LeChacal: we don't support it here (obviously, since we have no control over it), so you're best off asking... uh, whatever forums or whatnot whomever puts it out has.
[05:43] <Szeraax> PanzerMKZ: there is an option in somewhere...
[05:44] <Szeraax> i think the control center type thing
[05:44] <PanzerMKZ> ok
[05:44] <PanzerMKZ> I will look there
[05:44] <LeChacal> Flannel: i didnt really find an organized forum maybe i was looking in the wrong place
[05:44] <unagi> is there a way to add 'sort by type' to the desktop menu?
[05:45] <unagi> did i scare everyone off?
[05:45] <Optimus55> yes
[05:45] <mememe> can anyone tell me how to enable apport?...ive got a crashing app that id like to send in a report for.
[05:46] <Chikubu> i just got here, you havent had time to scare me off yet