[07:53] <nhaines> Well, time to find out if Ubuntu dropping the AMD Catalyst drivers means I can't boot graphically anymore.  Will be fun times!
[07:53] <nhaines> It's exciting because that's how I wanted to spend my evening.
[07:57] <daxcat> radeon works well these days
[07:57] <daxcat> which graphics card do you have?
[07:58] <DonkeyHotei> there's a new kernel driver, amdgpu
[07:59] <daxcat> yep. Volcanic Islands cards use that, and I think Sea Islands can too but not 100% sure. Everything else is radeon.
[08:37] <nhaines> daxcat: sort of a Radeon HD 6520G.
[08:41] <DonkeyHotei> i don't think catalyst has supported that in a long time
[08:50] <nhaines> Well, that'd be wrong.
[08:50] <nhaines> In any case, there's just vesa support now.
[08:54] <DonkeyHotei> there should be radeon
[08:56] <nhaines> It isn't loading.  But I think Ubuntu didn't uninstall fglrx cleanly, so making the appropriate changes.
[08:59] <nhaines> Seems to work now.
[09:03] <nhaines> Video playback is smoother on the occasional trouble videos, too.  Have to test gaming, but so far this is auspicious.
[09:13] <nhaines> We'll maybe call it suboptimal.
[09:38] <daxcat> radeon does video and desktop stuff better. fglrx does gaming better and everything else worse
[09:38] <daxcat> since the only good game is nethack, radeon ftw
[09:58] <nhaines> I do most of my gaming in Windows, so it will be a slight inconvenience, but it should suffice.


[06:04] <Kilos> morning all
[06:24] <magespawn> good  morning all
[06:24] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[06:25] <magespawn> any progress with the modem
[06:25] <magespawn> ?
[06:25] <Kilos> i dont understand that update bit it doesnt seem to do anything to the modem
[06:26] <Kilos> all the stuff wants to install to the pc not the modem
[06:27] <Kilos> and it stayed online all day yesterday and cut off in the evening only
[06:28] <magespawn> so maybe it is more a signal thing then anything else
[06:29] <Kilos> but once disconnected nm cant start it again so i switch to old modem again and that connects
[06:29] <Kilos> really puzzling
[06:30] <magespawn> strange, did you try the linux drivers?
[06:30] <Kilos> and it is a vodafone modem
[06:30] <superfly> GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING!
[06:30] <Kilos> not yet thats something ill need help with i think
[06:30] <Kilos> HeeeeLLoooo superfly
[06:31] <superfly> hi
[06:31] <Kilos> did you hit a jackpot superfly ?
[06:31] <magespawn> hey superfly
[06:31] <superfly> nope. I just thought I'd be different
[06:31] <Kilos> that was a serious good morning
[06:31] <Kilos> haha
[06:31] <magespawn> you are that never doubt
[06:33] <magespawn> i see ubuntu edge is just under 7 million, which means they are going to have to do 1 041 822.125 dollars per day to get to the target
[06:33] <Kilos> i wonder if its not because of being vodafone and using 8ta sim it is quirky magespawn
[06:34] <magespawn> maybe, lets see if there is 8ta software for the e220 modem
[06:36] <Kilos> might need flashing not just upgrading
[06:37] <Kilos> the mobile doctor did diagnostics and says all passes
[06:38] <magespawn> okay so maybe it does need a firmware update
[06:39] <magespawn> just had a quick look at the 8ta website they only have the latest modems
[06:39] <Kilos> yeah but i only find the firmware update links for vodafone
[06:39] <Kilos> aw
[06:40] <magespawn> that should be okay the firmware should be the same for all the modems, it is just the pc side software that usually differs
[06:41] <magespawn> did you have a look at th huawei site? i cant remember what links i posted
[06:41] <magespawn> s/th/the
[06:41] <Kilos> http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/downloadCenter.do?method=toDownloadFile&flay=software&softid=NDEzMzg=
[06:41] <Kilos> hi tonberry352_
[06:42] <tonberry352_> hallo
[06:42] <Kilos> http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/downloadCenter.do?method=toDownloadFile&flay=software&softid=NDcxMjQ=
[06:43] <Kilos> that mobile partner thing starts the modem and connects on win
[06:43] <Kilos> but dont upgrade firmware
[06:44] <magespawn> i think i have the last firmware floating around here on a drive, i will check it out
[06:44] <magespawn> got to go out for a bit
[06:44] <Kilos> cool ty
[06:44] <magespawn> bbl
[06:44] <Kilos> go safe
[07:23] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[07:23] <Kilos> 2013-07-26: the forums are up running again and being tested privately by Forum administrators.
[07:32] <Vince_0> Haai
[08:09] <Kilos> hi psyatw
[08:09] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:58] <Kilos> sigh! unity keeps rebooting to password login page
[09:08] <Kilos> i go try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-12-10-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop
[09:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[09:11] <superfly> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[09:16] <inetpro> good morning
[09:19] <mazal> Morning everyone
[09:36] <Kilos> grrr lightdm again, only fix was installing gdm
[10:40] <mazal> Oom Kilos on what version of ubuntu you struggling with ?
[10:41] <Kilos> 12.04
[10:41] <mazal> fx5500 ?
[10:42] <Kilos> had this prob before and only installing gdm in place of lightdm worked
[10:42] <Kilos> ya
[10:42] <mazal> I wish someday we could have no display issues
[10:43] <psyatw> hi mazal
[10:43] <psyatw> hi inetpro
[10:43] <psyatw> hi superfly
[10:43] <mazal> Hi psyatw
[10:43] <psyatw> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[10:43] <Kilos> maybe its another video card i forget which one is here
[10:43] <psyatw> what about 13.04?
[10:45] <Kilos> no man 13.03 not lekker
[10:46] <superfly> hi psyatw
[10:46] <Kilos> 12.04 is good but lightdm sucks
[10:48] <Kilos> 8ta tec just been here. its no wonder everything takes so long
[10:49] <Kilos> he subcontracts to them
[10:49] <Kilos> then he reports to 8ta and they then report to telkom mobile
[10:49] <mazal> oi
[11:21] <Kilos> i hate the internet
[11:22] <Kilos> try get software for modem and it keeps going to online dating junk
[11:22] <Kilos> grrr
[11:32] <charl> good afternoon all
[11:32] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[11:32]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[11:32] <Kilos> hi charl
[11:32] <charl> hi Kilos
[11:32] <charl> in the category of "weird standards": http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dessez-homenet-googleplus-interconnect-01
[11:33] <charl> "Connecting Home Networks via the social network GooglePlus"
[11:33] <charl> at first i thought it was a joke but it seems like they are actually serious
[11:36] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[11:37] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[11:37] <Maaz> charl: No problem
[11:43] <Kilos> charl, you got some time?
[11:51] <confluency> Kilos: you can replace lightdm with gdm.
[11:51] <Kilos> i did ty confluency
[11:51] <confluency> \o/
[11:52] <confluency> Oh, I see you said that earlier. :)
[11:52] <Kilos> forgot this last time i installed that lightdm was up to much good
[11:53] <Kilos> even did a clean install a week or so back because of the same prob
[11:53] <confluency> I had to ditch lightdm on my old home laptop because there was a ~10 second lag between me moving the mouse to a screen and the controls moving to that screen. Which made actually entering login details a thrilling game of whack-a-mole. :P
[11:53] <Kilos> hahaha
[11:54] <Kilos> lightdm really has probs
[11:56] <confluency> It works perfectly on my campus machine, which has a gajillion times the memory and processing power. I thought the point of something called "light" was lightness.
[11:57] <Kilos> lol
[11:58] <charl> Kilos: i got some time yes
[11:58] <charl> right now, anyway
[11:58] <Kilos> http://unlocke220.blogspot.com/2009/03/unlocking-procedure-i.html
[11:59] <Kilos> near the top is some blue writing to get the extra software but i keep ending with online dating stuff
[11:59] <Kilos> what am i doing wrong
[11:59] <charl> blue writing?
[11:59] <charl> sorry not sure what you are referring to
[11:59] <Kilos> oh red sorry
[12:00] <charl> this: "Required Softwares for the Hack. Here it is again for free !!! "
[12:00] <Kilos> required softwares for the hack
[12:00] <Kilos> ya that
[12:00] <charl> go here: http://lp.ezdownloadpro.info/sido/?q=E220UnlockSoftwarePack.rar
[12:01] <Kilos> as soon as i touch the download block i get adds
[12:01] <charl> yeah it's a crapsite
[12:01] <charl> one of these shady download sites full of ads
[12:01] <Kilos> how did you find that now?
[12:03] <Kilos> nope thats still wrong
[12:03] <Kilos> should be 7m and only under 1 m in the download
[12:08] <charl> no idea
[12:08] <Kilos> at least now it says its an exe file
[12:08] <charl> looks like a small download
[12:08] <charl> yeah looks like a windows app ?
[12:08] <Kilos> ill try it ty
[12:08] <Kilos> ya its for win
[12:33] <mazal> Enjoy the evening everyone
[12:34] <mazal> bye
[13:31] <inetpro> wb Kilos
[13:31] <Kilos> ty inetpro
[13:31] <Kilos> did the modem firmware update with on win7 now ubuntu dont see it anymore
[13:32] <inetpro> charl: interesting draft document
[13:32]  * Kilos cries
[13:38] <Kilos> hi drussell hows you?
[13:39] <drussell> Kilos: buried under a mountain of email following 2 weeks holiday... but apart from that, great!
[13:39] <Kilos> eish
[13:58] <Kilos> wbb gonna try sakis3g to configure modem
[14:07] <Kilos> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/zi5mw63dbayg/7a0aa7414cud40h/E620_LMT_internet_Linux.zip
[14:07] <Kilos> will try that if nm still dont see e220
[14:21] <Kilos-> yay e220 working here again on nm
[14:23] <Kilos-> wb magespawn
[14:27] <magespawn> afternoon Kilos-
[14:28] <magespawn> what a day wrangling with Internet connections
[14:28] <Kilos-> you too?
[14:31] <magespawn> yup spent most of the day out the shop fighting with other peoples, then get back here and mine goes down 10 sec after i get back, ironic
[14:32] <Kilos-> ai!
[14:32] <Kilos-> after the firmware upgrade ubuntu didnt see the e220 anymore
[14:33] <magespawn> so i see, i wonder why?
[14:33] <Kilos-> had to use sakis3g to configure it and uncomment one file somewhere
[14:33] <magespawn> is it working again?
[14:33] <Kilos-> i think the vodafone install comes with linux stuff in and the plain firmware dont
[14:33] <Kilos-> yeah
[14:34] <magespawn> maybe, that is good news i suppose
[14:34] <Kilos-> now just gotta see if it still loses connection
[14:34] <Kilos-> what was wrong your side magespawn ?
[14:36] <magespawn> adsl account problems, for some reason the adsl account not the line or the connection is restricting the speed of the connection
[14:37] <Kilos-> ai!
[14:38] <magespawn> yah well now it has been handed over to the isp's technical department
[14:38] <Kilos-> ouch and they dont rush anything
[14:40] <magespawn> again we will see hoping for the best naturally
[14:40] <Kilos-> hehe
[14:41] <magespawn> home time for me
[14:41] <Kilos-> later
[14:42] <magespawn> cheers
[14:54] <Kilos-> hi ThatGraemeGuy sorry i been too busy to concentrate
[14:55] <Kilos-> superfly, are you near that place called gardens
[14:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> no worries :)
[16:48] <inetpro> Kilos-: and what's that tail all about?
[16:48] <Kilos-> oh my
[16:48] <Kilos-> sorry
[16:48] <inetpro> ai!
[16:48] <inetpro> good evening
[16:48] <Kilos> evening inetpro
[17:03] <SilverCode> anyone have much experience with OpenVPN?
[17:04] <SilverCode> from a setting it up and debugging perspective
[19:05] <Kilos> naand julle
[19:06] <Kilos> inetpro, ping
[19:06] <inetpro> Kilos: pong
[19:06] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:06] <inetpro> sjoe?
[19:06] <Kilos> my ou modem en die e220 wou nie meer werk nie
[19:07] <Kilos> toe boot ek van remastersys dvd en dit het het gewerk to instaleer ek weer
[19:07] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:07] <Kilos> upgrade download speed peaked at 590kB/s
[19:07] <inetpro> werk daai e220 nie op die nuwe router van jou nie?
[19:08] <Kilos> ja maar ek kon nog nie die pc kry om aanlyn te gaan daardeur nie
[19:08] <inetpro> 590kB/s = 4720 Kbps
[19:09] <inetpro> ai!
[19:09] <Kilos> nee man
[19:09] <inetpro> is
[19:09] <Kilos> ohmm...
[19:10] <Kilos> i get mixed up with that everytime
[19:10] <Kilos> 590 kB/s is over 1/2 mB/s
[19:11] <inetpro> 4720 Kbps = 4.609375 Mbps
[19:13] <Kilos> oh ya you right as usual
[19:13] <inetpro> ai!
[19:13] <Kilos> but ive never had over 400kB/s before
[19:14] <inetpro> so what are you trying to tell us?
[19:14] <Kilos> you showed wrong man
 590kB/s = 4720 Kbps
[19:15] <Kilos> shoulda been 4.609375 Mbps
[19:15] <Kilos> right?
[19:15] <inetpro> 590 x 8 = 4,720
[19:15] <Kilos> im sure you do it to mess with my brain
[19:16] <inetpro> 4,720 / 1024 = 4.609375
[19:16] <inetpro> 1 byte = 8 bits
[19:17] <Kilos> so thats 4.6 mb/s
[19:17] <inetpro> yebo yes
[19:17] <Kilos> and you said what??
[19:17] <inetpro> you started
 590kB/s = 4720 Kbps
[19:18] <inetpro> ai!
[19:18] <Kilos> so thats good anyway because its been around 2.2mb/s
[19:18] <Kilos> what ai! jy
[19:18] <Kilos> gaan dit goed boet?
[19:18]  * inetpro trying to figure why he sounds confused
[19:19] <Kilos> hehe
[19:19] <Kilos> ek oud man
[19:19] <inetpro> goed dankie en daar oom
[19:19] <Kilos> beter nou dankie
[19:19] <Kilos> 8ta ou was hier
[19:19] <inetpro> so 8ta het kom fix?
[19:19] <Kilos> op hom gespring bietjie
[19:20] <Kilos> hy het sy modem hier in gesit en syn was ook sleg
[19:21] <Kilos> toe druk ek hom om te erken dat syn nie kan op en af nie as ons die toring kan sien
[19:21] <Kilos> toe se hy ja dis telkom wat moet reg maak
[19:21] <inetpro> mooi!
[19:22] <Kilos> anyway i gotta download over 700m night surfer data before month end but dunno what
[19:22] <inetpro> nou moet jy net oppas dat jou data nie vinnig verdwyn nie
[19:22] <Kilos> ek sal dit beloer met iftop
[19:22]  * inetpro gaan vroeg slaap
[19:23] <Kilos> mooi , hoog tyd dat jy meer slaap
[19:23] <Kilos> jy word oud nou
[19:25] <Kilos> what must i download with that night surfer data thats gonna expire
[19:25] <Kilos> dont tell me porn
[19:25] <Kilos> grrr
[19:27] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:27] <inetpro> jy sal self moet besluit oor daai ene
[19:28] <Kilos> ai!
[19:29] <inetpro> nag oom
[19:29] <Kilos> lekker slaap
[20:31] <Kilos> night guys. sleep tight
[20:40] <Squirm> oh yes, for those of you that like signing into other services using your Facebook account(this site is safe though), http://www.takethislollipop.com/


[01:08] <ChinnoDog> chirp
[01:40] <InHisName> Does it work ? with lotsa hours ?
[02:52] <ChinnoDog> It does so far. I won't know how long it actually lasts until I go through a few discharge cycles.
[09:27] <rmg51> Morning
[09:35] <JonathanS> Morning.
[12:17] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else
[12:27] <rmg51> jedijf: Roling's Bakery is still open
[12:28] <rmg51> I went by yesterday morning and they were open
[12:32] <jedijf> darn
[18:14] <ChinnoDog> I just compiled a C++ program on my phone. That is pretty neat.
[19:16] <InHisName> phones can compile without tying up phone for hours and hours ?
[19:17] <waltman> And without draining the battery?
[19:47] <ChinnoDog> It compiled pretty quickly. I wrote Qt application of a few lines and compiled and ran it
[19:47] <ChinnoDog> idk about the battery drain. 99% of the time will be spent in the editor so I don't imagine that gcc will do much harm even if it is CPU intensive.
[19:48] <ChinnoDog> If you want to see for yourself then you have to get C4droid.
[19:51] <waltman> ChinnoDog: You seem to be confusing clock time with cpu time
[19:51] <waltman> When you're editing, the cpu spends most of its time idle and consuming very few resources
[19:52] <ChinnoDog> Yes, and the screen draws the most power
[19:52] <ChinnoDog> We were talking about compiling though
[19:53] <waltman> At least on my iphone, it's true that the screen consumes a lot of power. But the screen PLUS something else consumes a ton more.
[19:53] <waltman> e.g. running the gps for an extended period, it gets pretty warm
[19:54] <waltman> or trying to connect when I have a weak cell signal
[19:58] <ChinnoDog> The S3 battery drain from the screen is above average because of the technology in use. The drain while using the editor shouldn't be bad. Yes, I wouldn't want to do that all the time though given that I more than tripled my battery capacity yesterday I could probably get away with it pretty easily.