[00:00] <JustKemp> i got ubuntu last night
[00:00] <UKGent> j/ #xubuntu
[00:00] <UKGent> lol
[00:00] <JustKemp> after deleting windows by mistake
[00:00] <puff> eTranquility_: Later on I found that there were certain function key combinatiions that would convert it into that mode (usually used with projectors, so that's a good google term to add to your search).
[00:00] <eTranquility_> puff, I got that for a little while but when Ubuntu booted it switched to my laptop screen and my external monitor is blank. It doesn't seem to detect the external monitor in screen resolutions.
[00:01] <puff> Patg7590: Well obviously "xorg.conf.backup" was just an example, you have ot use the actual path and filename for oyur backup file.    The old paradigm - the mental model of the interface that oyu've built up through experience - no longer applies, so your intuition is mis-educated.  You have to internalize the new paradigm.  No big deal.
[00:02] <puff> Patg7590: Okay, what filename did you give the backup file on your desktop?
[00:03] <djcip> i have a fujitsu 5010 and i'm trying to get the tablet functionality to work - does anyone here know where i could find a step-by-step tytiruak
[00:03] <Patg7590> puff: i didnt. I just copy and pasted it to the desktop
[00:03] <ckwalsh> Grrrr...
[00:03] <ckwalsh> I'm getting close to saving my databases, wiping the partition, and updating to Jaunty
[00:03] <Patg7590> puff: its called xorg.conf just like the broken one in etc/x11
[00:03] <puff> Patg7590: Okay, os it should be xorg.conf on your desktop.  Check on it with this:  "ls -l ~/Desktop/xorg.conf"
[00:04] <puff> Patg7590: If that shows you the file, then "sudo cp ~/Desktop/xorg.conf /etc/x11/xorg.conf"
[00:04] <djcip> *tutorial on how to enable wacom support
[00:04] <Patg7590> puff: it gave me a greater than sign
[00:04] <puff> Patg7590:  Hrm
[00:04] <puff> Patg7590: pastebin it.
[00:04] <Patg7590> puff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139875/
[00:05] <ckwalsh> How stable is Jaunty?
[00:05] <chotaz> My firefox window just greyed out, what does that mean?
[00:05] <chotaz> |jaunty
[00:05] <chotaz> !jaunty
[00:05] <Patg7590> ckwalsh: about a seven
[00:05] <puff> ckwalsh: ask on #ubuntu+1 maybe?
[00:06] <ckwalsh> Will there be an upgrade path from the beta to release?
[00:06] <lstarnes> ckwalsh: I believe so
[00:06] <puff> lstarnes: Really?
[00:06] <puff> lstarnes: That's cool, they're improving then.
[00:07] <puff> Patg7590: That > means that the command line is waiting for you to enter the rest of the command.   This is because you had a quote at the end of your command, but only one quote, so it's waiting for you to type the contents of the quote and then close it.
[00:08] <puff> Patg7590: Type a second quote " and hit enter. or just hit ctrl-c.
[00:08] <Patg7590> puff *facesmack*
[00:08] <puff> Patg7590: It's a mistake folks make all the time.
[00:09] <puff> Patg7590: Well, not *all* the time (or it would have been changed to prevent that) but frequently enough that it's not a huge surprise.
[00:09] <heavenmetal> hi anyone know about 'kernel alive' lock?
[00:09] <Patg7590> puff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139879/
[00:09] <sertac> does anyone knows how to get the built in microphone working on a vaio fw ?
[00:10] <heavenmetal> i just see that message when i'm trying to boot from cd.. then the video goes out and the system reboots a moment later
[00:10] <prince_jammys> Patg7590: X11, not x11
[00:10] <puff> Patg7590: My mistake, it's capital-x
[00:10] <puff> prince_jammys: Thanks.
[00:11] <puff> sertac: I'm kinda curious about that with my thinkpad mic.
[00:11] <tonsofpcs> how do i see what files a package installed from a command line?
[00:11] <puff> tonsofpcs: pdkg -L packagename
[00:11] <tonsofpcs> thanks
[00:11] <prince_jammys> tonsofpcs: dpkg -L packagename
[00:11] <puff> Whoops, typo. Dangit, I almost beat prince_jammys that time, too :-).
[00:11] <prince_jammys> :)
[00:11] <puff> My tpying has really suffered of late.
[00:11] <sertac> puff: sorry whats that?
[00:12] <prince_jammys> my typing always sucks
[00:12] <puff> sertac: I am curious about the same question, how to get my built-in mic working, only on a thinkpad.
[00:12] <Patg7590> puff, prince_jammys: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139880/
[00:12] <puff> Patg7590: good 'nuff, now reboot.
[00:12] <prince_jammys> Patg7590: success.
[00:13] <sertac> i see, its been a real while but still no solutions
[00:13] <puff> Patg7590:  It can be isconcerting, but linux command line stuff very typically doesn't tell you anything if everything wen tokay.
[00:13] <PatrickGleason> puff, prince_jammys: I was waiting for some kind of confirmastion or something....
[00:13] <puff> PatrickGleason: It also doesn't ask you to confirm before overwriting a file :-)
[00:13] <PatrickGleason> puff: yeah exactly lol- and even if this works- Im back to square one- nothing past 800*600 lol
[00:14] <puff> PatrickGleason: Unless you use the -i  option (e.g. "sudo cp -i ~/Desktop/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf")
[00:14] <perlsyntax> how can i get emacs 23 on ubuntu 8.10?
[00:14] <puff> PatrickGleason: sorry.
[00:14] <perlsyntax> ?
[00:14] <tonsofpcs> how do i setup sbnc?
[00:15] <perlsyntax> does anyone know where i can get emacs 23?
[00:15] <puff> perlsyntax: I don't see 23 in the repositories, so you may have to track down an emacs 23 package.
[00:15] <perlsyntax> that why i asking
[00:16] <Linkin> hi!
[00:16] <Linkin> i have weird arabic symbols in ubuntu
[00:17] <Linkin> can someon help , i can not login because of this
[00:17] <mdvsm> hi
[00:17] <Linkin> :( it happened right after an ugrade
[00:17] <mdvsm> hi
[00:18] <mdvsm> /120
[00:19] <daddy242> anybody got a good understanding of apparmor
[00:21] <iceroot> daddy242: i think so that there is anybody with this skill
[00:21] <iceroot> !anyone | daddy242
[00:21] <puff> Ah, neat, ubuntu now has a USB flash drive installer tool.
[00:21] <jedimind> how would i go about getting Gnome 2.26 going on Ubuntu 8.04 ; including all the nautilus, evolution, etc updates ?
[00:21] <fbc> Could someone take a look at this and tell me what I have to do to remove this package? http://pastebin.ca/1375271
[00:22] <Hobz> My touchpad stopped working after my last upgrade and I can't find qsynaptics in the universe repo.  Where can I find it?
[00:22] <pronoy> fbc : use apt-get
[00:23] <pronoy> fbc: the package name is tspc or what ever
[00:23] <Hobz> I'm running kde, qsynaptics isn't available.  Can I use gsynaptics instead until ksynaptics is updated?
[00:23] <fbc> pronoy, I've already tried remove ,autoclean, purge nothing works
[00:23] <PatrickGleason> puff: why would restarting my computer many times make me have an awesomely small and detialed resolution out of nowhere
[00:23] <puff> Does anybody know if I can just install usb-creator on my regular ubuntu machine and create ubuntu-booting usb drives from that?
[00:24] <puff> PatrickGleason: Idaknow...
[00:24] <daddy242> I am trying to setup an apparmor profile for sshd, but I am now stuck with complaints from pid=XXX profile=null-complain-profile
[00:24] <puff> PatrickGleason: Did you ever restart your computer after your initial install, before mucking with xorg.conf?
[00:24] <pronoy> fbc: i guess you've tried reinstalling it only...? am i correct ?
[00:24] <Hobz> puff, unetbootin
[00:25] <fbc> pronoy, yeah.. it fails too.. what can I do to fix this?
[00:25] <PatrickGleason> puff: yes many many times- after every edit- the display was fine when i installed on a nice flat panel but now im on this old crt
[00:25] <puff> PatrickGleason: Maybe it was at 800x600 because that was the default when you installed it, but then you messed up xorg.conf, but after you restored xorg.conf and restarted, xorg found the higher resolution
[00:25] <puff> PatrickGleason: Okay, I guess that's not the explanation then :-)
[00:25] <sparky1492> Can someone please point me in the right direction for a good tutorial on Netatalk please.  I have Googled and and none of them are really up to date
[00:25] <PatrickGleason> puff: what can i do to make sure this survices reboots
[00:25] <pronoy> fbc: you could like check all possible packages related to this particular one from synaptic and manually remove them using apt-get
[00:25] <PatrickGleason> survives***
[00:25] <jedimind> how would i go about getting Gnome 2.26 going on Ubuntu 8.04 ; including all the nautilus, evolution, etc updates ?
[00:25] <puff> PatrickGleason: I wish I knew.
[00:26] <puff> Hobz: unetbootin?
[00:26] <Roasted> Does anybody here use a network cloning solution besides clonezilla to clone a large number of Ubuntu machines?
[00:26] <Hobz> universal boot installer
[00:26] <PatrickGleason> puff: lol i unplugged the monitor and replugged it in and after the reboot its gorgrous
[00:26] <puff> Hobz: Ah... and?
[00:27] <Hobz> puff: google it, read the wiki, and decide if it's right for you
[00:27] <Hobz> works on windows and linux, it'll even download ubuntu for you
[00:27] <fbc> pronoy,  same problem through synaptics.
[00:27] <puff> Hobz: Okay.
[00:27] <Hobz> puff: sorry, forgot I was on the #ubuntu channel
[00:28] <Deichgraf> hello, how may I backup my IMAP mail?
[00:28] <pronoy> fbc: don't uncheck the packages ..just generate a list.....and use it to manually remove them using apt
[00:29] <puff> Deichgraf: Check into fetchmail.
[00:29] <puff> Odd, usb-creator was already installed.
[00:29] <fbc> pronoy, hmm,, i've never done that before.. let me see what I can do.
[00:31] <PatrickGleason> puff: thanks so much for your knowledge and patience
[00:31] <daddy242> Does anybody know how to get rid of apparmor complaints like requested_mask="::r" denied_mask="::r" name="/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl-2.7.so" pid=6792 profile="null-complain-profile" namespace="default" for a sshd profile
[00:32] <fbc> pronoy, ok I have a list of the installed files for that package and dependencies.. where do I go from here?
[00:33] <pronoy> fbc: actually its gonna be tiring......check all dependencies and packages
[00:33] <pronoy> manually remove em using apt-get
[00:34] <Iceman_B^Ltop> is there any way to do a Ubuntu 8.10 server install over the network ?
[00:34] <Roasted> Does anybody here use a network cloning solution besides clonezilla to clone a large number of Ubuntu machines?
[00:34] <danny__> i have a .bin file how do i change it to a executable file?
[00:35] <iceroot> danny__: chmod +x filename
[00:35] <bigm2793> can someone help me? im a noob at this. the video drivers say type sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.29-pkg2.run but i have no idea how to
[00:35] <danny__> thanks iceroot
[00:36] <iceroot> bigm2793: sure you have a 64bit system?
[00:36] <bigm2793> yeah i downloaded the 64 bit version
[00:36] <iceroot> bigm2793: then open a terminal and type the command
[00:36] <jedimind> how would i go about getting Gnome 2.26 going on Ubuntu 8.04 ; including all the nautilus, evolution, etc updates ?
[00:37] <cubas> is there any "must have" libraries package which is good to install after fresh installation ?
[00:37] <iceroot> cubas: depending of what you need of course
[00:37] <pronoy> cubas: all i can suggest is a full upgrade using synaptic llike 230 mb download
[00:37] <bigm2793> it says it cant open it
[00:38] <iceroot> bigm2793: sudo sh NVI......
[00:38] <iceroot> !sudo | bigm2793
[00:38] <pronoy> cubas: you get almost everything a basic user requires
[00:38] <jimi_hendrix> hmm i thought more people would leave for earth hour </OT>
[00:39] <johni> hello everybody; have a question about ext3 (or any filesystem for that matter), is possible to cache in memory contents of files transparently? for example on a system with lots of memory I want to speed up reads by having some contents cached in memory
[00:41] <billybigrigger> hey, is anyone aware of anyway to tell how much power im drawing from my psu in realtime? i just switched out an x2 5000+ brisbane (65w) for an x2 7750 kuma (95w) and want to know how close i am to maxing out this PSU, for some reason i can't power 1 of my SATA disks anymore, but I also added a front 120mm case fan
[00:42] <billybigrigger> either a linux or windows app that will run in wine
[00:42] <PatrickGleason> does anyone have experience fixing a problem with the virtual resolution after using an external display such as a tv?
[00:42] <pronoy> billybigrigger: did you overclock ur processor ?
[00:43] <Hobz> where do I find xorg.conf?
[00:43] <pronoy> Hobz: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:43] <PatrickGleason> hobz: etc/X11
[00:44] <PatrickGleason> hobz: thats the root of my problems for the last 6 hours :D
[00:44] <Hobz> PatrickGleason, mine too, touchpad issues
[00:45] <billybigrigger> pronoy, yes...but even at stock speeds i couldnt get the sata disk to work
[00:45] <PatrickGleason> hobz: mine is display-always display
[00:45] <billybigrigger> i can plug in the SATA disk and my bios sits for at least a minute or 2 before it realises theres no disk, and BIOS isn't detecting a disk
[00:45] <PatrickGleason> does anyone know what the thing in compiz is called that is called expose in OSX?
[00:46] <billybigrigger> pronoy, im wondering if i've maxed this psu :P
[00:46] <Guest28811> how do i change a .bin formatted file to a executable file?
[00:46] <PatrickGleason> where all open windows are up at once and you can pick which one to bring to the front?
[00:46] <iceroot> Guest28811: chmod +x
[00:46] <digitalchemist> @PatrickGleason: Scale
[00:46] <Guest28811> is there a special order?
[00:47] <iceroot> Guest28811: chmod +x yourbinfile
[00:47] <BobTheBlueBerry> does anyone know how I completely disable Intel graphics kernel modules?
[00:47] <pronoy> Guest28811: lemme guess trying to install real player ?
[00:47] <genii> !blacklist | BobTheBlueBerry
[00:47] <iceroot> BobTheBlueBerry: look for it with lsmod, remove it with rmmod
[00:47] <iceroot> BobTheBlueBerry: yes or use blacklist
[00:47] <puff> PatrickGleason: Pass it on down the line to the next guy (which may be me, when I have a mac question :-).
[00:48] <genii> BobTheBlueBerry: If you remove the module live as iceroot suggests, use: sudo modprobe -r and not not rmmod
[00:48] <PatrickGleason> digitalchemist: THANKS!!! can i set it ti only need a mouse moving into corner-rather than needing a click as well?
[00:48] <puff> PatrickGleason: I guarantee you there have been and iwll be times when I'm the clueless one and somebody else has been incredibly helpful.   The first tab is "Bindings"
[00:50] <ivair> Boa noite, este canal é ubuntu br ?
[00:50] <digitalchemist> Patrick: well, enjoy it   :-)
[00:50] <PatrickGleason> digitalchemist: haha i was looking under the mouse and not the screen
[00:51] <PatrickGleason> digitalchemist: because to me... that is a mouse thing(in my mind at least) and not so much a screen thing lol
[00:52] <PatrickGleason> digitalchemist: ok....one more thing lol is there a way to have the windows scaled WHILE it goes to expo? (like in osx) :-P
[00:53] <digitalchemist> PatrickGleason: I'm not familiar with OSX... what do you mean?
[00:53] <fbc> how do I update my i686 ubuntu ubuntu install to an x64 install?
[00:53] <glitsj16> PatrickGleason: you could try to emulate that by playing with the speed settings of the scale effect in ccsm i guess
[00:54] <PatrickGleason> digitalchemist: well scale shows all open windows....and expo shows all desktops....in osx you can show all windows--->then all desktops to have all windows in all desktops scaled: making it easy to move windows around
[00:54] <PatrickGleason> but I cant expo until ive chosen a window.....so i cant expo while im scaled
[00:56] <BlackCoffee> is there a way of downloading the seamonkey composer without having to download the whole app suite?
[00:56] <Iceman_B^Ltop> whats the big difference between Ubuntu 8.10 desktop and server edition ?
[00:56] <Dulichion> hi can anyone help me with an update issue
[00:56] <digitalchemist> PatrickGleason: I'm not sure how to do that... There's the Expo plugin which shows all desktops and allows you to drag windows between them; The Scale plugin lets you show windows on the current desktop or windows on all desktops... will a combination of those things work?
[00:57] <Dulichion> stdout : No space left on device when i try to upgrade I get an error output
[00:57] <ishmandoorebop> i just reinstalled virtual box but when i clock the launcher for it now, nothing happens
[00:57] <ishmandoorebop> when i try to run it in terminal, it says installation not found
[00:57] <ishmandoorebop> any ideas?
[00:58] <blinkin_gremlin> quick question
[00:58] <blinkin_gremlin> need a terminal that has a function similar to PuTTY's highligh and copy function
[00:58] <Nikola-Debian> I had some troubles when installing .deb in Ubuntu, is Ubuntu losing it's support of .deb slowly?
[00:59] <iceroot> Nikola-Debian: of course not
[00:59] <blinkin_gremlin> or pointers on how to replicate this in Terminal
[00:59] <iceroot> Nikola-Debian: its based on .deb
[00:59] <BlackCoffee> whats the best program to burn iso images?
[00:59] <tsuna27> when the next ubuntu comes out do the system requirments get higher as they do w/ windows, like do i need a better comp 4 it 2 run as fast?
[02:00] <PhotoJim> tsuna27: gradually, generally, yes.
[02:00] <PhotoJim> tsuna27: although with Linux you have more options about changing the settings to permit it to run well on a more modest machine.
[02:01] <ivair> Boa noite a todos, estou com duas máquinas ligadas, esta conectada (ubuntu), a outra xp em rede, mais não há trafego entre elas nem ping!
[02:01] <tsuna27> photojim: how much ram should i hav 4 the 9.0 version
[02:01] <duvld> If I'm using gnome ubuntu, metacity, with compiz... where should I look for theme's? I assume compiz-themes.org, but they have sections for compiz themes, emerald themes, and metacity themes.  Should all emerald themes work?
[02:01] <Dulichion> anyone know a way to clear previous updates and old kernels?
[02:01] <ivair> alguém pode me ajudar???
[02:01] <glitsj16> tsuna27: evolution never ceases, but you could try one of the "lighterweight" ubuntu's to keep your hardware alive reasonably well
[02:01] <BlackCoffee> hey he's speaking portuguese
[02:01] <PhotoJim> tsuna27: It depends on what you want to do, I recommend a gigabyte.  but more is always good.  you can do ok with less.
[02:02] <tsuna27> these light ubuntus can i still use compiz and custimize the same?
[02:02] <Kevdog> blinkin_gremlin: How about gnome terminal?
[02:02] <glitsj16> tsuna27: yes you can
[02:02] <tsuna27> glitsj16: then y doenst every1 use it
[02:02] <blinkin_gremlin> Kevdog:  that's what i'm using now, can't quite figure out how to enable the function i want
[02:03] <BlackCoffee> he says he has two machines connectet,one with ubuntu and the other one with xp on a network but there's no traffic or ping between them
[02:03] <PhotoJim> tsuna27: as far as I know, yes.  or you could run an older version, preferably one that is stlil supported with updates.  but a slower system with a good amount of RAM will still do ok.
[02:03] <tsuna27> glitsj16: will it use that ext5 thats extrmemly fast?
[02:03] <Kevdog> blinkin_gremlin: Not sure what you want -- there is a cut and paste function
[02:03] <BlackCoffee> how can he check out what's going on
[02:03] <blinkin_gremlin> to be clear, what i'm trying to replicate is PuTTY's ability to automatically copy to the clipboard what is hilighted (without shift+ctrl+c or some such)
[02:03] <ivair> Is this really ubuntu-br channel ???
[02:03] <duvld> ext5? i thought ext4 was new, and only thing new was bigger hard drive capability, like 100's of terabytes
[02:03] <Hobz> no
[02:04] <BlackCoffee> ivair,eu nao sei,mas estou perguntando pros caras que você pode fazer
[02:04] <Hobz> ubuntu bavaria?
[02:04] <BlackCoffee> nao,e so Ubuntu
[02:04] <BlackCoffee> !ubuntu-br
[02:04] <tsuna27> duvld: o them i mean ext4 the new one that makes start up 2 secs
[02:04] <clearscreen> !english | BlackCoffee
[02:04] <PhotoJim> ubuntu-br will be Brazilian (I presume Portuguese).
[02:04] <digitalchemist> Does anyone know where I could go to figure out how to use a single X screen across two video cards?
[02:04] <Alex_21> When I try "Apt-get -f install" with Sudo of course I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139902/
[02:04] <Alex_21> Any ideas Please
[02:04] <Alex_21> Are appreciated
[02:04] <BlackCoffee> ivair: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:04] <ivair> To me , I see Ubuntu br channel
[02:04] <blinkin_gremlin> Kevdog:  Putty has the ability to automatically copy to the clipboard anything highlighted in the terminal window
[02:04] <BlackCoffee> dá uma olhada nesse site
[02:04] <Alex_21> It would be helpful
[02:05] <duvld> tsuna27: ah I didn't know, read 1 thing just talked about bigger capacity capability
[02:05] <blinkin_gremlin> Kevdog:  it then pastes by a single right click
[02:05] <clearscreen> Alex_21: are you running out of disk space?
[02:05] <Kevdog> blinkin_gremlin: Its like the cygwin terminal
[02:05] <Alex_21> Maybe
[02:05] <ivair> Black cooffee, pode me ajudar?
[02:05] <blinkin_gremlin> Kevdog: yes, i think that's correct
[02:05] <Kevdog> blinkin_gremlin: Do you have a 2 or 3 button mouse
[02:05] <Iceman_B^Ltop> can anyone tell me the big difference between Ubuntu Desktop and Server editions ?
[02:05] <duvld> Anyone know what type of theme's I should try for Ubuntu with compiz? emerald themes - compiz themes - metacity themes???
[02:05] <blinkin_gremlin> Kevdog: (been awhile since I messed with Cygwin)
[02:06] <Alex_21> But I can't remove packages without getting an error asking me to do the -f with Apt-get.
[02:06] <blinkin_gremlin> Kevdog: any thoughts?
[02:06] <BlackCoffee> ivair: eu sou novo no ubuntu,nao sei quase nada
[02:06] <digitalchemist> duvld: do you have Emerald installed? If so, try those
[02:06] <Kevdog> blinkin_gremlin: side comment -- cygwin is great -- hence my lack of new info with putty since I havent used in a while
[02:06] <clearscreen> Alex_21: try a "sudo apt-get clean"
[02:06] <BlackCoffee> na realidad,nao sei nada
[02:06] <ivair> Eu tb !
[02:06] <duvld> digitalchemist: yep thx
[02:06] <ivair> e de Ingles tb
[02:06] <Kevdog> blinkin_gremlin: What terminals have you tried?  2 or 3 button mouse?
[02:06] <clearscreen> !english | ivair
[02:06] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: the server edition is optimized for server use, primarily intended not to be used with a graphical user interface, and it defaults to having very little software installed.  as a server admin, you'll generally know what you want, and you can manually install it.
[02:07] <Kevdog> blinkin_gremlin: And which desktop or WM are we talking about?
[02:07] <digitalchemist> duvld: Emerald themes are for window decoration, if that's what you're looking to change
[02:07] <ivair> Thanks Ubontu, for your help
[02:08] <Kevdog> Ubontu is a stinkin bot!
[02:08] <Kevdog> No need to thank a stupid bot!
[02:09] <Alex_21> It still won't let me uninstall anything
[02:09] <Alex_21> It is weird
[02:09] <Iceman_B^Ltop> PhotoJim: Okay. thanks. here is my situation, I'm a relatively new linux user, but Ive dabbled with Ubuntu for a while now. I had a desktop install on a pc which I was primarily using remotely
[02:09] <JorgeJorgesson> How to do a simple search for a filename/directory within my whole file system?
[02:10] <Iceman_B^Ltop> so I almost never need a GUI, but if there is a serious issue, I could use a GUI to help me out
[02:10] <Takagami> when I logged in the channel went 1337... wo0t!
[02:10] <ivair> how can I change to #ubuntu-br channel, my english is so bad ?
[02:10] <Hobz> JorgeJorgesson, whereis [FILE]
[02:10] <digitalchemist> @ivair:   "/join #ubuntu-br"   ?
[02:10] <Hobz> /join #ubuntu-br
[02:10] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: I don't recommend you use a GUI on a server.  better to keep the resources free for actual serving.  the learning curve is steeper but it's manageable.  Desktop, different matter of course.
[02:10] <JorgeJorgesson> Hobz: does it matter where I currently am in my directory structure?
[02:10] <BlackCoffee> isso
[02:10] <bertodsera> Hi! My sound card often becomes unusable and I have to restart the system, which is annoying. Is there a command line thing I can use to restart just the sound?
[02:11] <blinkin_gremlin> Kevdog: 4 button mouse, GNOME on Ubuntu 8.04 (8.10 gives me initramfs errors), and I've tried Gnome Terminal most recently, and Xterm in the past
[02:11] <Takagami> so I'm trying to tinstall guimup on a MINIMAL openbox install of hardy. Gdebi complains about libcairomm-1.0-1 missing, but I have JUST installed the same version...
[02:11] <Hobz> JorgeJorgesson, it will look through $PATH, I think
[02:11] <ivair> Thanks digitalchimist
[02:11] <Iceman_B^Ltop> PhotoJim: that makes sense. though, im running on a shoddy old Dell Dimension 8200
[02:11] <blinkin_gremlin> Kevdog:  really haven't branched out as much on terminals as I have on other stuff (like script IDEs and such)
[02:11] <Iceman_B^Ltop> P4 1.6 Ghz and 256 meg of RDram
[02:11] <ivair> I will try
[02:11] <Iceman_B^Ltop> does it matter which version I install ?
[02:11] <digitalchemist> @ivair: no problem
[02:11] <JorgeJorgesson> Hobz: Thanks.  Worked perfectly
[02:12] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: the shoddier, the more you don't want to run a GUI. :) my about-to-be-retired server was a modest PII-333 with 768 MB of RAM, but would have easily run ok with 256M of RAM.  no GUI though.
[02:12] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okay
[02:12] <Hobz> np
[02:12] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: depends on what you want to do and how much traffic it will handle, of course.  but a modest machine can do a lot if you don't saddle it with handling a GUI.
[02:12] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okay
[02:12] <BlackCoffee> he says he already joined #ubuntu-br but it brought him to #ubuntu
[02:12] <Iceman_B^Ltop> then I'll try a server isntall this time
[02:12] <joetromondo> Hi , how do I moint my external HD?
[02:12] <Iceman_B^Ltop> finally, can I install it from the network(internet) ?
[02:13] <Hobz> well, I"M in #ubuntu-br
[02:13] <Nikola-Debian> Why is Ubuntu so popular?
[02:13] <fbc> is it by design that the amd64 disc will not boot in a core2duo?
[02:13] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: you can, you need a boot CD/DVD to get it started, and it will install some packages off CD but the rest off the Internet.
[02:13] <Takagami> joetromondo: you know what format the external is in?
[02:13] <ivair> I'm liking this channel, i',m learning about Ubuntu and english
[02:13] <BlackCoffee> i was,but nobody said hi...so i just left.
[02:13] <digitalchemist> I just tried to join #ubuntu-br and it worked
[02:13] <Hobz> joetheodd, do dmesg | tail in a console, look for the device, then mkdir /mnt/[DEVICE] then mount /dev/[DEVICE] /mnt/p[DEVICE]
[02:13] <genii> Nikola-Debian: It's an easy to use distribution with a friendly face and decent community support
[02:14] <Iceman_B^Ltop> PhotoJim: by default? what about a via PXE? saves me downloading and burning a cd
[02:14] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ive got this windows laptop to server any files needed
[02:14] <Iceman_B^Ltop> *serve
[02:14] <joetromondo> Takagami: I think it is NTFS
[02:14] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: I've never done an Ubuntu installation that way, so I really don't know.
[02:14] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okay
[02:14] <BlackCoffee> so ,anyone knows if there's a stanalone version of seamonkey/netscape/mozilla composer for ubuntu?
[02:15] <iceroot> BlackCoffee: firefox, thunderbird, compozer, lighting?
[02:15] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: unless you have a very slow Internet connection, I recommend you do the traditional installation.
[02:15] <ivair> Urdetuga , do you speak portuguese ?
[02:15] <Flannel> BlackCoffee: "seamonkey" is a package, yes.
[02:15] <BlackCoffee> yeah,i know.but i just want the composer
[02:15] <fbc> is it by design that the amd64 disc will not boot in a core2duo?
[02:15] <BlackCoffee> hence my question
[02:16] <PhotoJim> fbc: the amd64 disc should boot with a Core 2 Duo.
[02:16] <iceroot> BlackCoffee: ist called kompozer if you mean the html editor (earlier called nvu)
[02:16] <BlackCoffee> lemme see
[02:16] <fbc> PhotoJim, What would be the reasons it wouldn't?
[02:17] <BlackCoffee> hoho,there it is....i was seartching "komposer" instead of "kompozer"
[02:17] <PhotoJim> fbc: bad burn?  computer isn't booting off CD properly?
[02:17] <BlackCoffee> thanks iceman
[02:17] <Iceman_B^Ltop> PhotoJim: dont you mean fast?
[02:17] <fbc> Photo ok thanks..
[02:17] <fbc> PhotoJim, thanks
[02:17] <digitalchemist> I've got onboard VGA and a video card with 2-DVI ports... two monitors are connected to the video card via DVI, and they work fine.... however, I can't seem to figure out how to get the onboard VGA to display... how could I get both devices to act as a single screen?
[02:17] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: no, I said I recommend a standard CD-based installation, *unless* your Internet connection is very slow.
[02:18] <Iceman_B^Ltop> oh
[02:18] <Iceman_B^Ltop> to download the image
[02:18] <Iceman_B^Ltop> right
[02:18] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: you can still download it on a slow connection.  but it will take a long time.  if your connection is that slow, best to order a CD, or have a friend burn you one.
[02:18] <Iceman_B^Ltop> nah thats not the issue
[02:18] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: I have a modest broadband connection and it only takes a few minutes for me to download an image.
[02:18] <Iceman_B^Ltop> its more that I dont wanna burn a cd :)
[02:19] <joetromondo> Can any one help me mount my external USB drive which I think is a NTFS hardrive?
[02:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> since I'll probably only use it once
[02:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> but meh
[02:19] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: ret some rewriteables, then you don't have to waste the disc.
[02:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> i;ll go with what you suggested
[02:19] <BlackCoffee> man i hate KDE!
[02:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I have bad experiences with burnig ISO's to cdrw's
[02:19] <BlackCoffee> reminds me of windows!
[02:19] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: I have booted off rewriteables many times.  just get good ones.  the best ones are the old, slow, 4x ones.  take longer to burn, but they tend to work a lot more reliably.
[02:20] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: and you can still buy them.  some burners don't support any faster than 4x for rewriteables.
[02:20] <Iceman_B^Ltop> the problem is that I cant erase them afterwards
[02:20] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I can when I just burn data to them
[02:20] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: then you possibly have a bad burner.  CD-RWs should be useable a hundred times or more if you take care of them.
[02:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I know its physically possible, but once I burn an ISO image to a cdrw, I cant delete it
[02:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> in all other cases its fine
[02:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> but I'll grab a cdr
[02:21] <puff> So, with ubuntu booting off a flash drive, how do I save stuff between boots?
[02:22] <CaptainMorgan> !sendmail
[02:22] <puff> Does it just automatically save settings changes and/or /home stuff?
[02:22] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: that's a software issue, or a burner issue.  there is nothing inherently different about burning a data CD-RW versus burning an .iso image to CD-RW.
[02:22] <R0b0t1> How can I install the latest Nautilus versions from apt-get or synaptic?
[02:23] <teh_pwnzor> sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:23] <chuy_max> !kernel
[02:24] <R0b0t1> teh_pwnzor: Well, sorry to not mention it, but I mean "unstable" releases, etc.
[02:24] <chubby> hai
[02:24] <BlackCoffee> ladies and gentleman!chubby!
[02:25] <glitsj16> puff: if you mean session info, that should be under $HOME/.cache/sessions
[02:25] <spydon> Is there any good utility that monitors your browsing? Like sees which javascripts are executed and so on?
[02:25] <glitsj16> spydon: the firebug addon for firefox is one option
[02:25] <spydon> glitsj16, is it easy to use? :)
[02:26] <VioletsPie> upgrading to jaunty
[02:26] <VioletsPie> hoorah
[02:26] <Guest2309> hi ,everyoe
[02:26] <glitsj16> spydon: i'm not a programmer and i can use it yes, it helps if you're able to read javascript, html and css etc of course
[02:27] <ishmandoorebop> i want to make a launcher to quickly play a sound, any ideas?
[02:27] <spydon> glitsj16, then its perfect, thx :)
[02:28] <fbc> My screen goes blank after I choose Install on the amd64 alt CD. Is there anyway to make if choose a different video mode, like vga maybe?
[02:28] <duvld> no answer on #compiz-fusion yet: I have ubuntu, compiz, and emerald theme manager. I just downloaded and loaded an emerald theme in emerald theme manager, but it's not applying.  In CompizConfig Settings Manager, Windows Decorations points to /usr/bin/compiz-decorator, should this be pointing to emerald or what do I have to do to use emerald theme manager?
[02:29] <glitsj16> spydon: you're welcome, by the way, it has great documentation --> http://getfirebug.com/
[02:29] <ishmandoorebop> does anyone know how i can have a launcher play a short sound?
[02:29] <glitsj16> duvld: point it to emerald yes
[02:30] <duvld> glitsj16: ok must need restart, thx
[02:30] <fbc> My screen goes blank after I choose Install on the amd64 alt CD. Is there anyway to make if choose a different video mode, like vga maybe?
[02:30] <clearscreen> !repeat | fbc
[02:30] <clearscreen> fbc: hit ctrl + alt + f2
[02:30] <clearscreen> that'll take you to TT2 (a shell you can work in)
[02:31] <clearscreen> if you have an nvidia card, you're going to want to install some nvidia driver like 'nvidia-glx-177' and run the 'nvidia-xconfig' tool
[02:31] <fbc> clearscreen, and it will just automatically continue the instal in the new session?
[02:31] <pur3> any1 who can translate 1 hungarian word for me ?
[02:31] <clearscreen> oh, you're still installing?
[02:31] <glitsj16> ishmandoorebop: you could use a shell script with the launcher to do that yes, if you have pulseaudio it could be as simple as "paplay /full/path/to/audio/file" in combination with your other commands
[02:31] <ishmandoorebop> can people see my questions at all?
[02:32] <teh_pwnzor> 1337
[02:32] <ishmandoorebop> will that launch a program or just play it?
[02:32] <Flannel> ishmandoorebop: Just make the launcher do the following: [make sound];[launch program]
[02:32] <fbc> clearscreen, yeah,, I put my disc in and click english, then install and then a blank screen and nothing for a long time until reboot.
[02:33] <glitsj16> ishmandoorebop: the script will do whatever you write into it yes, so it can do both (in fact playing audio is also launching an application)
[02:33] <fbc> clearscreen, I'm thinking it must be a video mode conflict of something.
[02:33] <Jason2gs> Hi guys. I'm currently using Gutsy Gibbon, but a friend recently asked me if I was going to upgrade to Jaunty when it comes out. I told him that I was still behind the current distro. Question is, is there a big advantage to upgrading whenever a new distribution is released, or is there anything that I can get from a new distribution that I can't get from synaptic, etc.?
[02:34] <ishmandoorebop> Flannel: what does that mean?
[02:34] <ishmandoorebop> glitzj16: how do i start writing a script
[02:34] <Flannel> ishmandoorebop: On the command line, you can do command1;command2 and that will execute command1 and then command2
[02:34] <tonyyarusso> Jason2gs: Check the release notes for new versions.  If you see something you want, upgrade.  If you don't care, don't.
[02:35] <BobTheBlueBerry> Jason2gs: You don't get very good updates with older versions (e.g. old Pidgin version in repository).
[02:35] <clearscreen> Jason2gs: most software on the 8.04 repositories are almost a year old, it's definitely worth upgrading if you can afford to run a beta version
[02:35] <ishmandoorebop> Flannel: what is [make sound]
[02:35] <BobTheBlueBerry> Jason2gs: I wouldn't install Junty yet, it's quite unstable.
[02:35] <ishmandoorebop> and what would i have to do to start writing a script?
[02:36] <unop> ishmandoorebop, a script is just a text file with commands in it .. so any editor that can save text as a text file will be a first start
[02:36] <BobTheBlueBerry> YEAY!!!!!!!
[02:36] <clearscreen> BobTheBlueBerry: i've been running jaunty for about 2 weeks now, no stability issues what so ever.. so I suppose 'quite unstable' is really subjective
[02:36] <Jason2gs> Thank you guys.
[02:36] <BobTheBlueBerry> oh. oops...
[02:37] <Jason2gs> tongueroo, BobTheBlueBerry, clearscreen: Thank you.
[02:37] <ishmandoorebop> okay, so what commands should i use? what would play a sound quickly without loading a visual program?
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> clearscreen: well, if you use python for anything it's been broken for a few days...  And it could decide not to boot at any time.  :P
[02:37] <glitsj16> ishmandoorebop: take Flannel's advice on this one, if you want to get a view on writing shell scripts, ubuntu has a package called abs-guide (advanced bash scripting guide)
[02:37] <djcip> hey - trying to get my Fujitsu Tablet 5010 to work with the jaunty  - so far everything is supported except for my wacom tablet screen - how can i enable the pen functionality?
[02:37] <BobTheBlueBerry> I blacklisted intel_agp and Ubuntu doesn't freeze on boot!
[02:37] <clearscreen> tonyyarusso: I don't use python, I use real men's languages! mahahaha
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> djcip: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty support
[02:38] <jedimind> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qaQ_3YyTx0
[02:38] <jedimind> err
[02:38] <jedimind> wrong channel, sorry
[02:38] <ishmandoorebop> Flannel: what commands should i use? what would play a sound quickly without loading a visual program?
[02:38] <FloodBot1> jedimind: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:38] <unop> ishmandoorebop,  aplay /path/to/audio_file
[02:39] <iceroot> i need a tool (http) so analyse traffic from apache
[02:39] <chotaz> jklock: there?
[02:39] <iceroot> something like webalizer
[02:39] <unop> iceroot, apache has mod_status
[02:39] <slimjim> has anyone here been able to succesfully get windows live mail to work with evo or tbird. like how it words with outlook. I have finaly had it with windows and ahve been running 8.10 for the weekor so and only 8.10 no M$ what i want to know tho is i hate having to goto there web page, i rather have a email client like evo or tbird to get my mail. anyone have any ideas
[02:40] <iceroot> unop: ok i will have a look at it
[02:40] <matt__> What is a really good cd ripper? I want something to rip to good quality cbr 320 mp3
[02:40] <Flannel> slimjim: Only old hotmail accounts have POP support, but there are things available that'll allow you to do it (basically, it scrapes the webpages).  Here's some choices: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=hotmail&searchon=all&suite=intrepid&section=all
[02:41] <matt__> slipstenen: Go gmail?
[02:41] <save77_> need some help dual booting xp & ubuntu.  in installed xp first and then installed ubuntu and now it doesn't show xp as an option.....only option is ubuntu
[02:41] <ishmandoorebop> what files does aplay use?
[02:41] <Flannel> save77_: Alright.  Please pastebin the output of `sudo fdisk -l` (that's a lowercase L)
[02:42] <franklinR> @matt__ I take it you've tried Sound Juicer?
[02:43] <save77_> Disk /dev/sda: 60.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>6 bytes
[02:43] <save77_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7297 cylinders
[02:43] <save77_> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[02:43] <save77_> Disk identifier: 0x082f082e
[02:43] <save77_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:43] <FloodBot1> save77_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:43] <save77_> /dev/sda1   *           1        4398    35326903+  83  Linux
[02:43] <Flannel> !pastebin | save77_
[02:43] <slimjim> i would go gmail but have tons of people who are already emailing me at my live account
[02:43] <slimjim> and i use it for work
[02:43] <slimjim> Flannel i knew about those i need something to read to show me how to config them
[02:44] <save77_> sorry...new to irc
[02:44] <Flannel> save77_: It's alright.
[02:44] <ishmandoorebop> how do you use aplay? what kind of files does it play?
[02:44] <duvld> Still having trouble using emerald theme.  to anyone - I am 99% sure I have everthing installed - I d/l emerald theme import to emerald theme manager although it does not seem to be selected(even though it's the only theme).  In CompizConfig Settings Manager under Window Decoration I changed "command" to "/usr/bin/emerald"(the command is there).  What is it I have to do to use the theme? What else can I try? I don't see a w
[02:44] <duvld> ay to "deactivate" human theme in "appearance".  Unchecking Window Decoration in Compiz Config does make title bar disappear, so compiz must be controlling it...???
[02:44] <Flannel> slimjim: Try this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/send-and-receive-your-hotmail-messages-through-evolution.html
[02:44] <largeprime> greetings all.  trying ubuntu on a zd8000.  got no nic or wireless.
[02:46] <duvld> single/double clicking theme in emerald only selects the theme, next Emerald-theme-manager restart it's unselected
[02:46] <slimjim> Flannel thank man i will give that a try and see what comes of it.
[02:46] <ishmandoorebop> does anyone know how to solve the following error: aplay -t wav /home/ben/Desktop/rimshot.wav
[02:46] <ishmandoorebop> aplay: test_wavefile:782: can't play WAVE-file format 0x0055 which is not PCM or FLOAT encoded
[02:47] <largeprime> google says this is a known issue.  any ideas how to fix?
[02:47] <Flannel> save77_: If you wouldn't mind pastingthat again to pastebin, the channel blocked a lot of it.
[02:48] <Jhs> hi. does anyone know where/how i can find drivers for an Acer Aspire T136? website only has windows drivers.
[02:49] <franklinR> @jhs What kind of drivers do you need?
[02:49] <djcip> i'm running ubuntu on my Fujitsu 5010 - its a tablet pc - i'm trying to get the wacom drivers to work - lspci doesn't show that my tablet is installed - can someone help?
[02:49] <Flannel> save77_: Is that all of it?  Your second harddrive should likely have at least one partition.
[02:50] <sveakex> can i run .bat files on linux?`
[02:50] <Iceman_B^Ltop> whats the best FS to use on a server system ?
[02:50] <scream> Where is the boot log located... for example... the messages behind the splash screen on boot?
[02:50] <sveakex> or do i have to translate them to bash
[02:51] <h00k> sveakex, you would have to translate into bash
[02:51] <sveakex> h00k: ok, but that is not a problem, thanks :)
[02:51] <PhotoJim> scream: type dmesg at a console, or cat /var/log/dmesg
[02:51] <scream> k
[02:52] <franklinR> Iceman_B^Ltop: I'd go with EXT3, but I'm not an expert in any sense
[02:52] <glitchd> how come kde wont connect to wireless after suspend??
[02:53] <BobTheBlueBerry> glitchd: you'll find half your hardware doesn't work after suspend.
[02:53] <teh_pwnzor> because kde sucks. use openbox
[02:53] <h00k> Iceman_B^Ltop, ext3 is great because it has journaling, if you lose  power or something, it should help not losing data
[02:53] <clearscreen> lol
[02:53] <glitchd> whats open box?
[02:53] <Flannel> save77_: Talking in the channel is easier, actually.  Ok, well, if that's all of it...  You don't have Windows installed at all.  I have no idea why your second harddrive is entirely empty.
[02:54] <h00k> glitchd, openbox is another window manager
[02:54] <h00k> !openbox | glitchd
[02:54] <zaccour> how do i find out what my subnet mask is?
[02:54] <PhotoJim> Iceman_B^Ltop: yes, ext3 strongly recommended over ext2.  it runs well even on very old systems.  I have ext3 on a 486sx25..  not much of a noticeable difference in performance.
[02:54] <save77_> alright i guess i'll reformat that partition and install xp again
[02:54] <glitchd> i jus installed kde
[02:54] <BlackCoffee> has anyone used lindows?
[02:55]  * j0n0 slaps franklinR around a bit with a large trout
[02:55] <glitchd> i use ubuntu as my regular window manager
[02:55] <h00k> BlackCoffee, lindows has since been renamed, its now linspire
[02:55] <franklinR> zaccour: your subnet mask should appear in the second line of ifconfig ( Mask: )
[02:55] <glitchd> or gnome i guess u could say
[02:55] <BlackCoffee> oh
[02:55] <BlackCoffee> and have you used it?
[02:55] <LjL> j0n0: that seemed random. please stick to the channel topic
[02:55] <largeprime> greetings all.  trying ubuntu on a zd8000.  got no nic or wireless after install.  any help
[02:55] <cman> how can i record me screen in ubuntu? like make a video?
[02:55] <BlackCoffee> i just wanna know if it can actually run windows based apps?
[02:55] <h00k> BlackCoffee, no, I have not
[02:56] <BlackCoffee> thing is i have only ubuntu,but my kid wan't something where he can run games and windows stuffs
[02:56] <zaccour> franklinR, thats my ip
[02:56] <glitchd> anyone know how to fix the connect after suspend?
[02:56] <largeprime> blackcoffee google wine
[02:56] <BlackCoffee> yeah,i have that
[02:56] <BlackCoffee> wine
[02:56] <BlackCoffee> but can't get it to work with some apps
[02:56] <Hobz> BlackCoffee, have you considered virtual machines?
[02:56] <franklinR> Your subnet mask should appear in the ifconfig output as well - as an example, mine is <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:57] <BlackCoffee> i'm kind of a lamo...if you know what i mean
[02:57] <PhotoJim> BlackCoffee: Tell your kid to get and maintain his own machine ;)
[02:57] <franklinR> zaccour: Your subnet mask should appear in the ifconfig output as well - as an example, mine is <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:57] <BlackCoffee> LOL he's 12
[02:57] <zaccour> franklinR, maybe i dont have a subnet mask
[02:57] <glitchd> can anyone tell me how to get kde to connect after resume?
[02:57] <h00k> BlackCoffee, perhaps check if there are any alternative applications to run what they are used to
[02:57] <PhotoJim> BlackCoffee: Seriously, you could get him a modest machine with Windows.  good incentive for him to learn how to maintain a system.  it's doable at 12.
[02:58] <zaccour> franklinR, oh i see it, thanks
[02:58] <franklinR> zaccour: no problem. Glad I could help
[02:58] <BlackCoffee> i was thinking about buying him a pentium 4,but as a birthday present...that would be on october though
[02:59] <BlackCoffee> i was going to install winxp along with ubuntu,but restoring grub seems like a pain in the arse
[02:59] <BobTheBlueBerry> Thankyou people here at the IRC by blacklisting intel_agp I got it to work! Only took 5-8 hours
[02:59] <Schmick> BlackCoffee: 12 yrold are good or better than most adults in building their own machine.. trust me.. I made my first circuit at 8.
[02:59] <chuy_max> hey guys, how do I find out if a kernel is integrated in a kernel, or if it is a module?
[02:59] <zaccour> franklinR, how do i know if i have a secondary dns or not?
[03:00] <BlackCoffee> at 8!
[03:00] <Schmick> yep... first digital circuit at 8, first computer (chip by chip) at 11.. so don't underestimate a 12 yr old. :P
[03:01] <BlackCoffee> i guess i'l just install xp with ubuntu before i buy him his pc
[03:01] <Flannel> !grub | BlackCoffee
[03:01] <Schmick> they are not scared of doing challenging stuff.
[03:01] <Flannel> BlackCoffee: First link.   :P
[03:02] <Flannel> BlackCoffee: Obfuscated swearing still is.  Please refrain.
[03:02] <Iceman_B^Ltop> you ate an hour of my time !
[03:02] <clearscreen> eh.. did my ubuntu time screw up or did the clock just advance 1 hour
[03:02] <scarby> anyone know what prog to burn a .mpg file to DVD disc? k3b won't have it :S
[03:02] <stormchas2000> i have my brother on the phone, he has compac he has xp on it,  he tried to dual boot. but when he rebooted windows comes up,  no grub loader
[03:02] <iceroot> clearscreen: its normal
[03:02] <scarby> clocks go forward an hour tonight due
[03:03] <BlackCoffee> Flannel: i will tell god to smite me first thing tomorrow morning
[03:03] <iceroot> clearscreen: its called sumertime here
[03:03] <BlackCoffee> :)
[03:03] <scarby> dude*
[03:03] <clearscreen> ah, didnt know :P
[03:03] <zaccour> is nameserver my dns?
[03:03] <iceroot> zaccour: its the dns you are using
[03:03] <franklinR> zaccour: nameserver is indeed dns
[03:04] <BlackCoffee> ok people,i think i've learned enough here today.my brain is already hurting.thanks for all the valuable infos.
[03:04] <zaccour> ok thanks
[03:04] <BlackCoffee> bye
[03:04] <Treybuchet> well...
[03:04] <Treybuchet> that was odd
[03:04] <Treybuchet> my metacity just
[03:04] <clearscreen> dns = domain name server :P
[03:04] <Treybuchet> freaked out
[03:04] <clearscreen> or service
[03:04] <FloodBot1> Treybuchet: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:04] <clearscreen> not sure
[03:04] <joetromondo> When I play any video here, it is not showing the propper colors, I dont believe is a Codec thing because it some times works fine
[03:04] <iceroot> is there a security-problem to run this public to all? http://alpha-unix.de/status
[03:05] <stormchas2000> any help
[03:05] <largeprime> trying ubuntu 8.10 on a zd8000.  got no nic or wireless after install.  any help?
[03:05] <franklinR> stormchas2000: did your brother install Linux, then Windows?
[03:06] <scarby> anyone know which program burns .mpg to DVD discs? (for playing in a home DVD player)? thanks
[03:06] <david13> What do you think would be the simplest way to backup a laptop on a cifs filesystem?
[03:06] <stormchas2000> franklinr he had xp then wanted to dual boot ubuntu 8.10
[03:06] <iceroot> scarby: k3b with plugins i think
[03:06] <stormchas2000> so he had xp first
[03:06] <Schmick> some notebooks come with an Atheros wireless.. Atheros support comes with backports.
[03:06] <scarby> i was trying with k3b, i thought i had the plugins.. i'll double check though, thanks :)
[03:06] <Schmick> google for Atheros ubuntu for instructions on how to enable it.
[03:07] <kevin_zhong> hello! I just installed Ubuntu, everything is updated. I have an nvidia geforce4 MX card, and all I can get for resolution is 800x600, is there  anything I can do?
[03:07] <slimjim> can anyone here help me with my firefox, i did something with a theme and scripts reverted back but when i goto goole and some other sites were the txt should be it is dark grey back with black text and is almost impossiable to read can anyone help me with this.
[03:07] <david13> I have a 1TB network drives accessible only through smb
[03:07] <gaintsura> has anyone used quicksynergy before? or synergy in general?
[03:07] <Torhal> Is there any way to get my hard drive to stop thrashing with Ibex? I have 6GB RAM, and somehow I only have 482,604k free...and the drive sounds like it's constantly paging.
[03:07] <iceroot> !anyone | gaintsura
[03:07] <Schmick> kevin_zhong: check if you have enabled the propietary drivers in system hardware for your card.
[03:07] <scarby> kevin_zhong System/Administration/Hardware Drivers
[03:08] <scarby> damn, beat me
[03:08] <scarby> :D
[03:08] <kevin_zhong> i did, and it downloaded and just made it smaller :(
[03:08] <Schmick> lol
[03:08] <franklinR> stormchas2000: That seems a little strange. Did your brother tell the installer during install that he wanted to dual boot? (I have little knowledge regarding dual-booting, I have no use for it).
[03:08] <PhotoJim> Torhal: are you using a 64-bit version of Ubuntu?  If not, you are probably only using 4 GB of your RAM.
[03:08] <david13> who has the athros card that doesn't work?
[03:08] <gaintsura> iceroot: that really was supposed to be a generalized question... it was kind of a poll/who has used it. Most people, when asked about something will tell you more than you ask for =)
[03:08] <Torhal> PhotoJim: I am. Quad-core Phenom.
[03:08] <gaintsura> david13: ar500*EG?
[03:08] <david13> I had to compile some source code to get the ar 5006 to work
[03:08] <gaintsura> or ar242X
[03:08] <mastershake> whooooo!
[03:08] <PhotoJim> Torhal: 32-bit Linux (and Windows too) won't support more than 4 GB of RAM.
[03:08] <mastershake> first time ubuntu user!
[03:08] <eseven73> gaintsura: polls are a no no here
[03:08] <mastershake> just got installed!
[03:08] <david13> gaintsura: You'll need to compile the module yourself.
[03:08] <mastershake> <--- noob
[03:08] <FloodBot1> mastershake: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:09] <mastershake> sorry floodbot
[03:09] <gaintsura> eseven73: uhg, you missed what I meant...
[03:09] <Torhal> PhotoJim: I'm using the 64-bit version
[03:09] <david13> gaintsura: let me see if I can find the name of the source code
[03:09] <stormchas2000> franklinr  he says it did not ask he only adjusted the partitaion
[03:09] <gaintsura> david13: indeed, using either madwifi or ndiswrapper
[03:09] <PhotoJim> Torhal: oh, ok.  and good.  not sure why you have the disk space issue.
[03:09] <eseven73> gaintsura:  lol sorry :)
[03:09] <Torhal> PhotoJim: Mem:   5345616k total,  4863012k used,   482604k free,   114824k buffers
[03:09] <kevin_zhong> anybody have an idea on how I can get my screen resolution working?
[03:09] <Torhal> PhotoJim: All I'm running at the moment is Firefox and XChat
[03:09] <david13> gaintsura: madwifi works but not the modules with ubuntu need to compile...
[03:09] <iceroot> PhotoJim: linux 32bit support more then 4gb ram, but not more then 4gb ram for 1 prozess (motherboard must support this option)
[03:09] <gaintsura> eseven73: np =) it was an app that I read about on lifehacker, but I want to see more info on it
[03:10] <gaintsura> david13: install backports?
[03:10] <PhotoJim> Torhal: open a shell and type "free" and then type "vmstat" after that.  it'll give some information as to memory usage.
[03:10] <kevin_zhong> anyone?
[03:10] <PhotoJim> ice	 yup, 32-bit > 4GB is kludgy.  I was oversimplifying.
[03:10] <david13> gaintsura: no there is a tarball I used
[03:10] <largeprime> how can i tell which nic i have in my machine in ubuntu?
[03:10] <franklinR> stormchas2000: So he definitely did an install after he adjusted the partition?
[03:10] <scarby> sorry Kev, I'm just a beginner myself. :)
[03:10] <gaintsura> david13: yeah, most kernels need the backports modules and build essential installed at the minimum
[03:10] <kevin_zhong> :)
[03:10] <Excell> kevin_zhong:  did you install nvidia settings manager from synap?
[03:11] <david13> I couldn't get any of the backports to work.  I installed build essentials and the kernel headers...
[03:11] <kevin_zhong> i dont think so, how do I do that?
[03:11] <eseven73> largeprime: maybe lspci
[03:11] <david13> I compiled the module myself
[03:11] <Torhal> PhotoJim: Ok
[03:11] <kevin_zhong> I downloaded the drivrs manually, but the encoding to open it wasn't available
[03:11] <stormchas2000> franklin   yes it is there and he can see it he just can not get ubuntu to load up
[03:11] <kne> hello there
[03:11] <Excell> sys/admin/synap...search/nvidia
[03:11] <david13> It worked.  But I can't remember the name need to do a find
[03:11] <kne> i need help configuring port forwarding for my ps3 under ubuntu with firestarter
[03:12] <david13> I am using a wireless N usb adapter now
[03:12] <kne> some1 can help me?
[03:12] <kevin_zhong> ok....
[03:12] <alma> rrrrjkjrklejsyhtr
[03:12] <largeprime> lspci?  thanks i'll google that
[03:12] <alma> htrjhkkjjjjjlikkk
[03:12] <alma> gcjjhgkkkkkkkkkxstttttttttttttttttttttt
[03:12] <eseven73> alma please stop that
[03:12] <franklinR> stormchas2000: Hmm, that really does seem strange - GRUB should be installed by default (I think). It would seem this is a little out of my depth. Sorry.
[03:12] <gaintsura> david13: have you blacklisted the right module and  either rebooted or modprobed ath_pci ?
[03:13] <Torhal> Feh. Drive is just churning constantly. It did the same thing when I only had 2GB physical RAM, no idea why the hell it's so greedy that it eats 5.5GB RAM.
[03:13] <david13> Yeah I had to blacklist the ath modules.
[03:13] <stormchas2000> franklin   ok well we went to the forums and tried to load grub   but still it doaes not seam to take,   unsure how to help him
[03:14] <eseven73> Torhal: try looking in htop......sudo apt-get install htop       then just type htop in a terminal
[03:14] <basti> stormchas2000, xp overwrites grub when installed after ubuntu, so you have to reinstall grub using a live cd
[03:14] <Torhal> eseven73: Danke, trying now.
[03:14] <largeprime> ok my nic is a Realtek 8139
[03:14] <sagredo> does anyone know how to force mplayer to use a specific resolution to output video?
[03:14] <stormchas2000> basti   xp was on there first then ubuntu was installed second
[03:15] <gaintsura> david13: sudo modprobe -r ath_pci && sudo modprobe ath_pci ?
[03:15] <gaintsura> and did you disable the restricted driver (if any?)
[03:15] <largeprime> should not ubuntu understand this hardware?
[03:15] <basti> stormchas2000, well then maybe he didnt install grub - just reinstall it
[03:15] <VioletsPie> wow jaunty's resolution is so much better on my laptop
[03:15] <Torhal> eseven73: Heh, Swap is 5MB/2188MB, so I dunno why the drive sounds like it's paging like mad. Makes sense as to why it's using almost all physical RAM, though.
[03:15] <stormchas2000> basti  we did sudo grub
[03:16] <mercutio22> I am trying to share a folder between two ubuntu pcs. I right click on the folder icon in nautilus and share it, but I get an error message in the the pc trying to access it saying "failed to retrieve share list from server". What can I do?
[03:16] <dublisk> hey all, I'm trying to get internet to work, ifconfig does not show eth0, and neither does system->admin->network, what should I look at
[03:16] <david13> gaintsura: I had to compile the new module... erase the old before I did a make install on the source code
[03:16] <stormchas2000> !grub
[03:16] <largeprime> perhaps ubuntu is confused?
[03:16] <eseven73> Torhal: it should list the process that is hoggin everything up
[03:17] <basti> stormchas2000, read restoregrub
[03:17] <david13> gaintsura: I blacklisted the other module ath_5k something and then I think it picked up the compiled module
[03:17] <eseven73> Torhal:  i bet its trackerd
[03:17] <calc> komputes: ping
[03:17] <marqueed> what is the difference between aptitude install and apt-get
[03:17] <puff> Hm, I'm having trouble burning an iso.
[03:17] <david13> I still have the source code I downloaded somewhere...  if you give me a second I'll tell you the tarball name
[03:18] <marqueed> puff: be more specific?
[03:18] <Flannel> marqueed: There isn't much difference anymore.  Feel free to use whichever you prefer.  Aptitude provides a GUI if you run it without arguments.
[03:18] <puff> I follow the instructions here for burning from ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:18] <eseven73> marqueed: if you just type aptitude you'll see one difference right away
[03:18] <david13> I am used to running kde, so I need to figure out how to find a file with the gui
[03:18] <Platypus-Man> I'm trying to use remote desktop between my HTPC and my normal PC, and found this guide: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-use-remote-desktop-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html - but I can't connect because the field where I type in the password doesn't come up
[03:18] <puff> And I get: "there was an error writing to the disc"
[03:18] <david13> scince I can't tell where gnome mounts a smb filesystem via nautilus
[03:18] <erds> Hi all
[03:19] <marqueed> Flannel: anymore? what was the difference?
[03:19] <marqueed> david13: it's somewhere weird in .gnome-vfs, i think
[03:19] <marqueed> ~/.gnome-vfs/
[03:19] <david13> Yeah it is weird.
[03:19] <marqueed> hrmmm, i may have lied
[03:19] <Flannel> marqueed: Removal of unused dependencies, basically.
[03:19] <marqueed> .gvfs, sorry
[03:20] <FoolsRun> not really this channel's field, but does anyone know python? I'm editing a script and am stuck --can't get into #python because I can't get IDENTD going.
[03:20] <david13> I found it
[03:20] <puff> So then I tried the command line burning instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning and got http://paste.ubuntu.com/139947/
[03:20] <david13> running find in a console
[03:20] <Hydrant> How can I find the current working directory for a process?  I have a mystery process and I want to find where the binary is
[03:20] <Flannel> FoolsRun: Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:20] <Hydrant> ps -eaf doesn't give me the current working directory
[03:20] <FoolsRun> Flannel: thanks
[03:20] <marqueed> FoolsRun: i can help, probably
[03:20] <doink1212> Can VLC player use the .ds2 format? It is specific to Olympus Voice Recorders and I am shopping...
[03:21] <david13> "madwifi-hal-<IP_ADDRESS>-current.tar.gz" is the name of the tarball... I had a hell of a time finding it.
[03:21] <david13> It's somewhere on the madwifi site
[03:21] <david13> Worked for me
[03:21] <Hobz> The audio doesn't work in VLC.  I've tried removing audiopulse and switching to the OSS and ALSA modules, but no luck.  Any idea what else i can do?
[03:22] <david13> Hobz: Pray
[03:22] <marqueed> Hobz: install the extra audo plugins
[03:22] <Hobz> david13, I was thinking sacrifice
[03:22] <marqueed> Hobz: vlc-plugin-pulse
[03:22] <erds> does anyone know a good how-to for make the macbook pro unibody's trackpad working good ?
[03:22] <Hobz> marqueed, I tried that before removing pulseaudio, no go
[03:23] <erds> (on jaunty)
[03:23] <dublisk> Hi all, I cant get ethernet to work, cant find anything about eth0 : I've posted some more info here http://codepad.org/35oMUD0L  any help is appreciated
[03:23] <doink1212> Does .ds2 format work in VLC?
[03:23] <eseven73> hobz try sudo alsa force-reload
[03:23] <marqueed> Hobz: anything in the vlc logs?
[03:23] <Hobz> haven't tried those
[03:23] <Hobz> hang on
[03:23] <eseven73> hobz then in sound settings make sure everything is on Alsa
[03:23] <jnsears>  /join #easypeasy
[03:23] <Hobz> marqueed, where would I find those?
[03:23] <marqueed> Tools > Messages
[03:24] <puff> marqueed: Any suggestions?
[03:24] <puff> marqueed: MD5 sum matches. Hm.
[03:24] <largeprime> ok so why cant ubuntu use my realtec8139 nic?
[03:24] <gartral> why does a middle click on an icon act like a double click, furthermore, how do i turn that off?
[03:25] <david13> No one in offtopic
[03:25] <david13> ]bummer
[03:25] <Torhal> eseven73: Could it be this?
[03:25] <Torhal> eseven73: Gah
[03:26] <Torhal> COpy/paste didn't work
[03:26] <valman> How to connect to the Internet at Ubuntu (wifi)
[03:26] <eseven73> Torhal: dont paste it here, use paste.ubuntu.com
[03:26] <puff> So I used usb-creator and that sets up a usb drive to effectively run the liveCD iso from the USB drive, and also keep persistent data on the USB drive.
[03:26] <Torhal> 29:32.47 /usr/bin/pulseaudio -D --log-target-syslog
[03:26] <subsume> How can one remap the space-bar without a space-bar? =)
[03:26] <Torhal> eseven73: One line, or I would use a pasty
[03:26] <maximo_> !time
[03:26] <marqueed> puff: i'm not much of an expert on this, sorry
[03:26] <bah> It is now Saturday March 28 2009 10:26:42 PM UTC-4 (EDT). (24 hour time is 22:26:42).<PHONE_NUMBER> seconds since 00:00:00 UTC, January 1, 1970. (Not counting leap seconds.)
[03:26] <Platypus-Man> I'm trying to use remote desktop between my HTPC and my normal PC, and found this guide: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-use-remote-desktop-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html - but I can't connect because the field where I type in the password doesn't come up.
[03:27] <puff> However, I've seen mention of actually installing ubuntu on the USB drive, not as a live CD but as a regular install.  But I've also seen forum posts saying "that's bad" but not really explaining why it's bad.  Anyone know?
[03:27] <segin> puff: Flash drives are generally slow in terms of I/O.
[03:27] <puff> segin: So how is that different from running the live CD off the flash drive?
[03:27] <segin> puff: Also, it can be hard to pin down the /dev node for the flash drive. It can change between boots.
[03:27] <kne> i need help configuring port forwarding for my ps3 under ubuntu with firestarter or iptables can someone help me?
[03:28] <segin> puff: IIRC, the full install caches the devnode, the LiveCD scans for it
[03:28] <puff> Ah-hah... hm.
[03:28] <suwei> help
[03:28] <segin> puff: You could have two drives plugged in
[03:28] <eseven73> Torhal: just going by that im not sure,..
[03:28] <puff> Sounds like somebody oughta develop an in-between version where it's a full install that scans.
[03:28] <segin> puff: Your boot drive could move from /dev/sda to /dev/sdb and would break booting
[03:29] <puff> Hm, that's interesting.  I just tried to change a user password with passwd, mistyped the password the second time,so it failed, but the last line of output from passwd was "password updated successfully".
[03:29] <Torhal> eseven73: Alrighty. Nothing is using excessive CPU, and I'm only using 5MB swap...that had the highest CPU time overall and it is writing to syslog so it was a guess.
[03:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> holy crap, NTFS move operations between a single harddrive are.....slow
[03:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> :/
[03:29] <eseven73> Torhal: under cpu% you'll see a list, the hoggier ones at the top
[03:29] <marqueed> puff: i think it always says that
[03:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> 5-6 MB/
[03:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> s
[03:30] <marqueed> i lied
[03:30] <puff> marqueed: Time to get all inigo montoya on them.
[03:30] <Torhal> eseven73: Yah, I know top...only reason I'm here is I'm going nuts. My drive is making thrashing sounds for no reason :)
[03:30] <Torhal> Either Ubuntu is doing something really weird or the bastard is about to die.
[03:30] <marqueed> Torhal: could it have something to do with the hdparm "bug" from awhile back?
[03:30] <Torhal> I'm hoping that it's not the latter,.
[03:30] <Torhal> Dunno...didn't investigate that, thankye.
[03:31] <eseven73> Torhal: you could temporarly disable swap sudo swapoff -a            and see if that helps
[03:31] <marqueed> are you on a laptop - there was previously a problem with bad default settings, causing the drive to try to park too quickly and have to spin up again
[03:31] <Torhal> marqueed: Nope. Desktop unit./
[03:33] <Platypus-Man> okay, now I disabled password, asking for confirmation and encryption - and it still won't connect
[03:33] <Torhal> eseven73: Thankye for htop, though. I'd never used a cures-based top before.
[03:33] <eseven73> yeah np, htop is pretty nice :)
[03:33] <eseven73> so is iptraf......another curses based app
[03:34] <largeprime> ok i found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74497
[03:34] <Torhal> eseven73: Ah, iptraf is nice.
[03:34] <eseven73> it is great :)
[03:34] <largeprime> apparently there are 2 8139 nic devices
[03:35] <largeprime> that thread has a bad link.  antone know how i can switch drivers?
[03:35] <Platypus-Man> "Important note :-Remote Desktop will only work if there’s a GNOME login session.Leaving your computer with an unattended GNOME login session is not secure and not recommended." - what exactly does that mean?
[03:36] <Platypus-Man> do I have to log out before I can use Remote Desktop?
[03:36] <david13> How can I tell how fast my cdr burner can burn so I can buy the right cdrs?
[03:37] <jrgp> what is the best usenet client for ubuntu:?
[03:37] <david13> jrgp: Tin?
[03:37] <Platypus-Man> bah
[03:37] <Platypus-Man> I give up
[03:37] <lockd> will the Ubuntu alternate install disk allow me to install via a serial console?
[03:37] <ramiro> hi
[03:37] <largeprime> chatzilla?
[03:37] <eseven73> !best | jrgp
[03:38] <ramiro> I copied my id_dsa.pub to authorized_keys in the server I want to connect to. But now everytime I try to login it still asks for the passphrase for the id_dsa key. how do I make ubuntu (or whatever) remember the key so I don't have to type in the passphrase?
[03:38] <ramiro> I'm not running any GUI if that matters at all.
[03:38] <david13> I need to leave... You can't have opinions here and I am very opinionated.  Bye.
[03:39] <lockd> mainly I'm looking to set up a server without a monitor or keyboard
[03:39] <jrgp> ramiro, have you checked the file permissions on the .ssh's?
[03:40] <largeprime> according to this link my problem is fixed with kernal 2.6.12 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91746
[03:40] <largeprime> how can i update without a net connection
[03:40] <largeprime> pleas
[03:41] <Hobz> get your friend to read you the kernel source over the phone
[03:41] <CaptainMorgan> I'm having a lot of trouble trying to install postfix for like the 100th time... the common error I'm receiving is "ERR: config file is missing" or similar. reading up on it leads me to remove it, then reinstall it.... I do: sudo apt-get purge postfix, and then sudo apt-get install postfix, agreeing to install related packages, but even the install apt-get command returns multiple "ERR: config files missing" errors... how can t
[03:41] <CaptainMorgan> hat be when I'm doing a fresh install of the package? what is it I need to do so apt-get retrieves the files needed?
[03:41] <Hobz> then do it again to verify it
[03:41] <CaptainMorgan> source.list is appropriately set too...
[03:41] <elky> Hobz, dont be silly, please.
[03:41] <ramiro> jrgp: yes, they're alright.
[03:42] <jrgp> try this on both machines: chmod -R 666 .ssh
[03:42] <Hobz> elky, my bad.  it's in my nature
[03:42] <LetsGo67> Trying to use Microsoft Lifecam NX-6000 in Ubuntu...
[03:42] <dublisk> Hi all, I can't get any ethernet or any mention of eth0 on my system. Here is more info http://codepad.org/35oMUD0L   what should I try ?
[03:42] <valman> who spoke in Russian?
[03:42] <ramiro> ssh-agent and ssh-add did the trick
[03:42] <jrgp> yay
[03:42] <riez-al_> hallo
[03:43] <riez-al_> i am newbie in ubuntu
[03:43] <elky> largeprime, you can download the packages from packages.ubuntu.com and transfer them by usb key. you may need to go back and get more if you need dependancies, but you shouldnt for the kernel
[03:43] <lockd> the kernel afaict has tons of dependencies
[03:43] <riez-al_> anyone to help me
[03:43] <LetsGo67> Can someone help?  Trying to use Microsoft Lifecam NX-6000 in Ubuntu...  only in Cheese does it work.
[03:43] <largeprime> thanks
[03:44] <largeprime> elky
[03:44] <riez-al_> i have problem with my vista sp1 in hardy
[03:44] <lockd> riez-al_: using VirtualBox?
[03:45] <largeprime> elky can you point me to what i wish in packages.ubuntu.com?
[03:45] <largeprime> intreped updates?
[03:45] <scunizi> I've just installed a Brother networked MFC printer and have got it to print but am having issues with getting xsane to recognize that it's there.  I can grep the driver but xsane just blinks on the screen then disappears.. Any hints or suggestions would be greatly appriciated.
[03:45] <lockd> riez-al_: or some other virtualization software like VMware?
[03:47] <Platypus-Man> I'm trying to use remote desktop between my HTPC and my normal PC, and found this guide: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-use-remote-desktop-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html - but I can't connect because the field where I type in the password doesn't come up... I then tried to untick the checkboxes about password, encryption and asking for confirmation, but it still didn't work - then I tried to log out before I tried to connect, whi
[03:48] <mrpockets> where do the Ubuntu Updates come from?
[03:48] <hardcampa> God
[03:48] <Hyren> lol :P
[03:48] <jrgp> mrpockets, ubuntu maintained repositories
[03:49] <largeprime> elky can you point me to what i wish in packages.ubuntu.com? where are the kernal updates?
[03:50] <eseven73> kernel*
[03:50] <elky> largeprime, can you stop repeating and let me have time to look first?
[03:50] <gartral> largeprime: you should get a little icon by the clock with an exlimation makr, thats the updater
[03:50] <largeprime> thanks  eseven73.  sorry
[03:50] <eseven73> :)
[03:51] <gartral> largeprime: note: the updater only appears if there are updates
[03:51] <largeprime> gartral.  the laptop has no net at all.  trying a workaround
[03:51] <LetsGo67> !pulse
[03:51] <elky> gartral, he's offline
[03:51] <zaccour> how do i find my dynamic ip address?
[03:51] <gartral> largeprime: ohhhh
[03:51] <kindofabuzz> zaccour, ifconfig
[03:51] <CaptainMorgan> I'm having a lot of trouble trying to install postfix for like the 100th time... the common error I'm receiving is "ERR: config file is missing" or similar. reading up on it leads me to remove it, then reinstall it.... I do: sudo apt-get purge postfix, and then sudo apt-get install postfix, agreeing to install related packages, but even the install apt-get command returns multiple "ERR: config files missing" errors... how can t
[03:51] <CaptainMorgan> hat be when I'm doing a fresh install of the package? what is it I need to do so apt-get retrieves the files needed?
[03:52] <kindofabuzz> or wireless iwconfig
[03:52] <largeprime> i am currently on a lenovo s10.  very small and i try to blame it for my fat fingering
[03:52] <Hyren> there are also numerous sites you can google to find your IP
[03:52] <largeprime> like myip.com
[03:52] <CaptainMorgan> zaccour, ifconfig ?
[03:53] <zaccour> i did ifconfig, but how do i know if that is static or dynamic?
[03:53] <lockd> largeprime: even the standard ethernet driver doesn't work properly? or does it even have one?
[03:53] <jrib> zaccour: your qusetion doesn't make sense
[03:53] <Hyren> also, what do you mean by dynamic IP anyway? since you can only find your current IP, you probably can't predict the next one you will get
[03:54] <Hyren> your IP will (generally) stay the same as long as you stay connected zaccour
[03:54] <elky> largeprime, which version of ubuntu are you on? i'm not having luck looking when i have to search through all of them
[03:54] <lockd> zaccour: canyouseeme.org will tell you what your external IP is, and will let you check open ports
[03:54] <largeprime> lockd i do not know how do answer you.  i belive i am loading the wrong nic driver. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=522773#post522773
[03:54] <lockd> largeprime: well, is it wired?
[03:55] <largeprime> elky 8.10 no updates of course
[03:55] <Megarain> Any one got a fix for extremely low sound on the dell XPS m1530. For exam, volume at 50%, can't hear ANYTHING.
[03:55] <largeprime> lockd no net at all.  wired or wless
[03:55] <Hyren> hey, curious, can anyone else get into #handbrake? seems my address is banned, even though I've never been here before... O.o
[03:56] <LetsGo67> What is PulseAudio and why isn't it working with Skype?
[03:56] <lockd> largeprime: hey, that eth0 looks like it's connected in ifconfig. what happens when you ping the gateway?
[03:56] <gartral> largeprime: ndis wrapper?
[03:56] <elky> largeprime, then you're already above that kernel number. it is not compatible with your system
[03:56] <tj83> hi all.... can anyone say they have had success with nvidia 9500gt 1gb vram in 8.04.2?  I can get it up in 8.10 with manual xorg.conf edit from recovery mode and drop to root to fix... however in 8.04 this does not work, checked for restricted modules, tried envy, even got the source code from nvidia site up to date and built kernel module... someone plz say they have this working.
[03:57] <largeprime> ok guys really love the help but need to slow it down for me
[03:57] <Megarain> tj83: Nvidia driver version?
[03:57] <elky> largeprime, describe what the problem you want to solve is please
[03:57] <tj83> 172.xxx.xxx.28 i think Megarain
[03:58] <largeprime> i have no net connections after install of 8.10
[03:58] <tj83> Megarain, its re-installing 8.10 so i cant double check that
[03:58] <getoo> any room for the beta 9.04
[03:58] <largeprime> laptop zd8000 no wired or wless
[03:58] <Megarain> Try 188 driver. That should work.
[03:58] <lockd> largeprime: install of 8.10 from what? the old stable release?
[03:59] <largeprime> cd
[03:59] <gartral> largeprime: do you know what thype of wifi card it uses?
[03:59] <tj83> Megarain, worth a try,
[03:59] <elky> largeprime, let me look for info on that then. it will take time
[03:59] <largeprime> broadcom
[03:59] <gartral> largeprime: a broadcom ????
[03:59] <elky> and what wired card?
[03:59] <Megarain> Yeah, I warn you, you may need to install via synaptic.
[03:59] <tj83> largeprime, use "lshw | grep network"
[04:00] <largeprime> elky, i could dl a naew release and burn,then reinstall
[04:00] <mercutio22> I can't share a folder between computers using samba. It should not be that hard. Can someone help me debug? I am getting the error message "failed to retreive list of shared folders"
[04:00] <puff> So, why does this ubuntu iso show up as ls -l size -> 732766208, but in Gnome GUI apps it shows up as 698MB?
[04:01] <puff> 698.8 MB.
[04:01] <gartral> mercutio22: you have samba ports open in all your firewalls, yes?
[04:01] <largeprime> net 0,1 disabled
[04:01] <lockd> puff: because that's 698 MB
[04:01] <largeprime> tj83
[04:01] <puff> lockd: ?
[04:01] <lockd> puff: ls -l size reports the number of bytes
[04:02] <tj83> largeprime,  if nothing there, then you can try lspci | grep net or lsusb | grep net or simply lsusb and lspci to look for your hardware info
[04:02] <largeprime> gartral i think so yes
[04:02] <mercutio22> gartral> I don't have a firewall installed. Can it be a problem with my router/.
[04:02] <lockd> puff: 1 KB = 1024 bytes, 1 MB = 1024 KB
[04:02] <mercutio22> gardar> ? that was a question
[04:02] <imbrandon> ls -lh ( h == human readable , like k,MB, or GB )
[04:02] <elky> largeprime, 8.10 is the newest release. try the older release, 8.04
[04:02] <largeprime> tj83 looked for it and foure is a bug with realtek 8139 nicsnd that the
[04:03] <getoo> I'm using ERC Version 5.2 with GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2008-09-05.
[04:03] <jay> hi!
[04:03] <nicholas_> good night all my eyes are sagging
[04:03] <largeprime> elky reinstall from 8.04?
[04:03] <gartral> largeprime: i was asking what specific broadcom card it is, if we can find drivers, we can ndis wrap them and make wireless work
[04:03] <Elijah> Hi, where could I find documentation on how brainstorm.ubuntu.com was built? It's current source code.
[04:03] <tj83> largeprime, i have some realtek hardware here... what is the exact line showing your hardware?
[04:03] <puff> 1024*1024*698.8
[04:03] <Guest64559> Do you have idea how to get the microphone to work with ubuntu?
[04:04] <Guest64559> anyone?
[04:04] <tj83> largeprime, my example : lsusb give me "Bus 006 Device 002: ID 0bda:8197 Realtek Semiconductor Corp."
[04:04] <puff> lockd: Ah, I see. Dunno why I didn't expect that.
[04:04] <nicholas_> u have to unmute the mic
[04:04] <getoo> Guest64559: i am tryin to get it to work with yahoo chat
[04:04] <getoo> its very weak
[04:04] <getoo> gyachi
[04:04] <puff> getoo: Me too.
[04:04] <nicholas_> for me it was auto mute
[04:04] <getoo> you can hear just fine tho
[04:04] <getoo> also the muting  part dont work
[04:05] <Guest64559> hmm
[04:05] <Guest64559> I get a bunch of errors
[04:05] <Guest64559> my microphone does not work at all
[04:05] <getoo> i heared it works with pulseuadio
[04:05] <Guest64559> audacity wont record a thing
[04:05] <nicholas_> not in yahoo but setting of pc
[04:05] <PerryArmstrong> hey i was told to use XAMPP for webshost so that i can try PHP programs...but thats for Windows...can anyone tell me an alternative for windows
[04:05] <lockd> some sound cards don't work well with pulseaudio
[04:05] <PerryArmstrong> hey i was told to use XAMPP for webshost so that i can try PHP programs...but thats for Windows...can anyone tell me an alternative for *ubuntu
[04:05] <getoo> better chance of gettin help in linux,freebsd,solaris:1
[04:06] <getoo> in yahoo chat
[04:06] <glitsj16> Elijah: the bottom banner on brainstorm.ubuntu.com mentions http://www.ideatorrent.org/
[04:06] <ddd707> evening, is jaunty off topic here being beta?
[04:06] <getoo> one of the developers comes to that room
[04:06] <puff> When setting up a liveCd/USB flash drive, it lets you choose how much space to use for persistence.  What's the implication o doing this, is this purely a constraint on how much space the running liveCD will let oyu use, or does it keep you from using space for other stuff on that USB disk?
[04:06] <eseven73> ddd707: yep join #Ubuntu+1
[04:06] <largeprime> lspci says ehternet is RTL-8139/8139c/8139c+ rev 10
[04:06] <ddd707> thanks eseven..
[04:06] <tj83> largeprime, how about lsusb?
[04:06] <eseven73> np
[04:06] <puff> PerryArmstrong: LAMP.
[04:06] <Psuedo> Greetings
[04:06] <Psuedo> !dvd
[04:06] <hacker07> is it possible to use a server computer as a normal desktop
[04:07] <lockd> getoo: not much of a better chance in Solaris unless you are using Nexenta
[04:07] <Psuedo> !installation-dvd
[04:07] <PerryArmstrong> puff; ohkk thanq
[04:07] <redscare> can CEDET semantic parse the STL?
[04:07] <getoo> got it
[04:07] <eseven73> hacker07: yes, but the kernel is a bit different for server
[04:07] <puff> hacker07: Yes, if the server computer has a graphics card, etc.
[04:07] <largeprime> lsusb says usb root hub and bluetooth
[04:07] <puff> eseven73: I thought he was asking about server hardware, not about using an ubuntu server install.
[04:07] <Psuedo> Does anyone know if the Installation DVD for Ubunut 64-bit includes anything extra apart from language packs?
[04:07] <hacker07> so if is it easy if you do
[04:07] <glitsj16> PerryArmstrong: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for details on how to install & configure etc.
[04:07] <lockd> hacker07: it's generally a bad idea to use a server as a desktop concurrently
[04:08] <hacker07> okay thanks
[04:08] <puff> PerryArmstrong: XAMPP is just a windows installer for several apps that you can trivially install on linux - apache, mysql (or postgres), php, perl, python, etc.
[04:08] <Psuedo> although, I have server 2008 on my home comp
[04:08] <Guest64559> Also, I'm considering downloading the pandora gadget for Adobe Air
[04:08] <Psuedo> Does anyone know if the Installation DVD for Ubunut 64-bit includes anything extra apart from language packs?
[04:08] <Guest64559> but it isn't free software
[04:08] <Elijah> glitsj16: You da man!
[04:08] <PerryArmstrong> puff..so which do you think is better XAMPP of LAMP
[04:08] <tj83> largeprime, it would seem your hardware is not being shown at all? certain the lspci output shows your wifi not your wired ethernet?
[04:08] <getoo> Guest64559: join gyachi
[04:09] <PerryArmstrong> glitsj16; thanxx
[04:09] <Elijah> glitsj16: Bummer it won't work with mysql though
[04:09] <getoo> sorry #gyachi
[04:09] <getoo> :X
[04:09] <glitsj16> Elijah: i'll forward that friendly comment to the easterbunnies, thanks
[04:09] <Psuedo> PerryArmstrong: Same thing
[04:09] <puff> PerryArmstrong: LAMP is  just a linux box running apache, mysql and php/perl/python.
[04:09] <lockd> hacker07: desktop drivers like nVidia can bring the system down. ouch, if it's also being used as a server
[04:09] <largeprime> tj83 lspci says network controller Broadcom BCM4318 airforce one 54g rev 02
[04:09] <Guest64559> Adobe air runs a bunch of java scripts and has internet connectivity
[04:09] <jamiejackson> how do i launch synaptic as root from a non-admin account?
[04:09] <Psuedo> Does anyone know if the Installation DVD for Ubunut 64-bit includes anything extra apart from language packs?
[04:09] <Psuedo> Does anyone know if the Installation DVD for Ubuntu 64-bit includes anything extra apart from language packs?
[04:09] <CaptainMorgan> zaccour, ifconfig ?
[04:09] <PerryArmstrong> Pseudo, puff; ohkk...thank you very much
[04:09] <puff> PerryArmstrong: XAMP is just somebody trying to make that handy combination available on windows without too much pain and blood (aside from the pain and blood that windows inflicts just by being on your machine).
[04:09] <CaptainMorgan> I'm having a lot of trouble trying to install postfix for like the 100th time... the common error I'm receiving is "ERR: config file is missing" or similar. reading up on it leads me to remove it, then reinstall it.... I do: sudo apt-get purge postfix, and then sudo apt-get install postfix, agreeing to install related packages, but even the install apt-get command returns multiple "ERR: config files missing" errors... how can t
[04:09] <CaptainMorgan> hat be when I'm doing a fresh install of the package? what is it I need to do so apt-get retrieves the files needed?
[04:09] <Megarain> Grrr, still cant get that sound working right.
[04:09] <largeprime> tj83 both show
[04:10] <largeprime> tj83 lspci says network controller Broadcom BCM4318 airforce one 54g rev 02
[04:10] <eseven73> puff: ah i thought he meant the ubuntu server software :/
[04:10] <Elijah> glitsj16: Thanks ;)
[04:10] <lockd> jamiejackson: su to an admin account "su user"
[04:10] <largeprime> lspci says ehternet is RTL-8139/8139c/8139c+ rev 10
[04:10] <genii> I asked in #ubuntu-server but it's pretty quiet there: Any way to send a network alert when ups kicks in?(so all the other boxes can nicely shut down when there's like 2 minutes left of power for instance). APC SmartUPS1400
[04:10] <puff> eseven73: Idaknow what he means now :-).
[04:10] <tj83> largeprime, the BCM4318 is your wifi.... google.
[04:10] <tj83> i will take a look also
[04:10] <hacker07> so what if you don't use it as a server
[04:10] <CaptainMorgan> I did --reinstall too... and it still reports the same error
[04:10] <PerryArmstrong> puff; is there any .NET alternative in linux
[04:10] <largeprime> tj83 and the driver is broke
[04:10] <puff> PerryArmstrong: LAMP was an acronym coined in, hm, around 2000, give or take a year.
[04:10] <largeprime> it seems
[04:10] <Psuedo> double P?
[04:10] <lockd> hacker07: then install from the desktop distro, so you get a desktop kernel
[04:10] <kindofabuzz> PerryArmstrong, mono?
[04:11] <d0nkeyBOB> mono . .
[04:11] <puff> PerryArmstrong: Depends on what you mean by ".net alternative".  There's a .net port called Mono.
[04:11] <eseven73> hacker07: are you talking about like a real physical server, like what google uses? or are you tlaking bout the software Ubuntu Operating system?
[04:11] <PhotoJim> genii: absolutely possible depending on the UPS you have.  see apcupsd package, e.g., if you have an APC UPS.
[04:11] <Psuedo> Does the Installation DVD for Ubuntu 64-bit include anything extra apart from language packs?
[04:11] <PerryArmstrong> kindofabuzz, puff; i meant for windows apps we build it through .NET...what about in linux
[04:11] <puff> PerryArmstrong: So 2000 was The Year Of The Platform. That's when the buzzword "development platform" became very popular, replacing "enterprise server".
[04:11] <tj83> largeprime, so it was working before?
[04:11] <d0nkeyBOB> when does gnome 2.26 come
[04:11] <largeprime> nope
[04:11] <hacker07> im talking about a physical server system
[04:11] <genii> PhotoJim: Thanks
[04:11] <d0nkeyBOB> do i have to wait for 9.06
[04:11] <largeprime> never
[04:12] <puff> PerryArmstrong: You biuld what through.net, XAMPP?
[04:12] <largeprime> just did the install
[04:12] <puff> erryArmstrong: Also around 2000, a lot of people were coding up web apps in just-plain-old apache, mysql and php, running on linux servers.
[04:12] <eseven73> ok puff you were right lol
[04:12] <tritium> d0nkeyBOB: gnome 2.26 is out.  It will be in ubuntu 9.04, which will be released 4/23.
[04:12] <eseven73> he means like  an hp server
[04:12] <d0nkeyBOB> no way to get it for 8.10?
[04:12] <lockd> Psuedo: not sure exactly, but there's jigdo which will allow you to build your own disc
[04:12] <kindofabuzz> d0nkeyBOB, 2.226 is in Jaunty, don't know if intrepid will upgrade, i doubt it
[04:12] <puff> PerryArmstrong: So somebody (I think at O'Reilly & Associates) coined the acronym LAMP (Linux+Apache+Mysql+Perl/Python/PHP;  originally mostly perl, these days mostly PHP).
[04:13] <tj83> largeprime, ubuntu wifi docs says its supported... your radio switch on? pastebine the output of iwconfig and iwlist scan
[04:13] <tj83> pastebin*
[04:13] <d0nkeyBOB> oh . . .bummer
[04:13] <kindofabuzz> d0nkeyBOB, download it and build it yourself is always possible
[04:13] <Psuedo> lockd: Okay
[04:13] <PerryArmstrong> puff; no no..i have to do a college project using .NET software in Windows...a live project to be implemented in college. I dont like using Windows except for gaming and i want to know whether its possible to build in linux
[04:13] <puff> PerryArmstrong: to point out that this was an organically emerging web application "platform" that was rivaling the heavily marketed web application "platforms" like J2EE, etc.
[04:14] <d0nkeyBOB> i was trying to look for garnome 2.26 . . but i can't find it
[04:14] <largeprime> tj83 cant pastebin have to save file and sneaker net it to this pc
[04:14] <PerryArmstrong> puff; yes yes....i really want to know whether php is better or j2ee
[04:14] <puff> PerryArmstrong: Oh, well if you have to meet an arbitrarily imposed limitation of developing in windows .net...
[04:14] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: it really depends on what you are using from .NET
[04:14] <puff> PerryArmstrong: the answer is "it depends", but that's really not a question for #ubuntu.
[04:14] <tj83> well any useful info from those commands?
[04:14] <PerryArmstrong> puff; asked that on curiosity
[04:14] <puff> PerryArmstrong: I have been doing web programming since 1994 (not kidding, I remember when they added background image support :-).
[04:15] <puff> PerryArmstrong: And I have done a lot of first perl, then java, and lately PHP.
[04:15] <puff> PerryArmstrong: They all have their strengths.
[04:15] <tj83> largeprime, any useful info from those commands?
[04:15] <kindofabuzz> d0nkeyBOB, garnome is only at 2.24 looks like
[04:15] <tj83> largeprime, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy
[04:15] <macman_> guys i want to boot up a mac with ubuntu cd .. any ideas ?
[04:15] <d0nkeyBOB> yea i saw that . . .but gnome says to use garnome 2.26 . . .so i'm at a loss
[04:15] <puff> PerryArmstrong: They all have their weaknesses.  I would be happy to discuss this at length at some othre date, because right now I'm actually working on a critical project deadline.
[04:15] <gartral> kindofabuzz: what is garnome, ive only heard of it recently
[04:15] <kindofabuzz> d0nkeyBOB, actuall only 2.22, 2.24 isn't even done yet
[04:15] <d0nkeyBOB> nice . . .
[04:16] <PerryArmstrong> puff; can i have an appoitment with you
[04:16] <kindofabuzz> gartral, GARNOME is a build utility that allows users to build the GNOME Desktop
[04:16] <PerryArmstrong> puff; can i have an *appointment with you
[04:16] <d0nkeyBOB> it helps you compile gnome
[04:16] <puff> PerryArmstrong: I'll PM you some contact info.
[04:16] <puff> PerryArmstrong: Btw, where are you?
[04:16] <PerryArmstrong> puff; india
[04:16] <PerryArmstrong> puff; you
[04:16] <puff> Fun.
[04:16] <puff> Good food.
[04:16] <PerryArmstrong> puff; spicy food
[04:16] <d0nkeyBOB> i had indian tonight . . .aloo matter
[04:17] <d0nkeyBOB> so good
[04:17] <d0nkeyBOB> sorry off the subject . .
[04:17] <Digital7> mythtv under 8.10x64 with avermedia hybrid volar max (native drivers) just flickers when i try to 'watch tv', any input welcomed
[04:17] <PerryArmstrong> d0nkeyBOB; great
[04:17] <d0nkeyBOB> oh well . . .guess i'll have to wait for jaunty.
[04:18] <d0nkeyBOB> will it be safe to upgrade right away hen it comes out?
[04:18] <lockd> I am currently running the unstable releases. I would say no
[04:18] <digitalpsyko> room for jaunty beta?
[04:18] <d0nkeyBOB> ha\
[04:18] <eseven73> im resizing a 40 gig hdd to 50 % of that, how long is this going to take ?! it's an old IDE hdd on a Dell Demented(tion) 2400...
[04:18] <ddd707> ubuntu+1
[04:19] <ddd707> digitalpsyko - #ubuntu+1
[04:19] <digitalpsyko> ty sir
[04:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I have a harddrive of 150GB(usable), whats a good size for the swap partition?
[04:19] <largeprime> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/139963/ tj83
[04:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> im setting up a server system that has 256 MB of ram
[04:19] <tj83> Iceman_B^Ltop, 2x your ram
[04:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okay
[04:19] <lockd> and I would upgrade the ram if at all possible
[04:20] <eseven73> gparted says 00:09:08   is that 9 hours? O.o
[04:20] <Iceman_B^Ltop> lockd: I wish
[04:20] <gartral> eseven73: 9 minutes
[04:20] <Iceman_B^Ltop> but I cant find RDram for cheap anywhere
[04:20] <tj83> largeprime, you have something there. wlan0 showing a working wifi chip
[04:20] <Iceman_B^Ltop> so if you have anything to spare, I'll take it :)
[04:20] <TwoToneSpirit> What command will tell me everything there is to know about an IP address on my LAN?
[04:20] <eseven73> gartral: hmmm its' been way over 9 minutes
[04:20] <Hobz> Iceman_B^Ltop, 1 gig is plenty
[04:21] <tj83> but no access point detected largeprime
[04:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> Hobz: alright
[04:21] <gartral> eseven73: then its either stuck, or you have a MASSIVE drive
[04:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I'll partition that then
[04:21] <lockd> Iceman_B^Ltop: ah, right, I have a system with 500MB and it's DDR.. still can't find that
[04:21] <eseven73> gartral: just 40 gigs
[04:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I have data on the drive so I dont want to destroy all data
[04:21] <gartral> eseven73: is it changing at all?
[04:21] <eseven73> gartral: im shrinking it to 20 gigs
[04:21] <largeprime> how do i connect with it?  i think it has the wrong driver
[04:21] <eseven73> no :(
[04:22] <gartral> eseven73: are you sure theres not more than 20 gigs used?
[04:22] <cappicard> any program that supports qcelp? i am trying to play videos off my phone and it uses qcelp audio...
[04:22] <largeprime> i think BOTH my broadcom and mt realtek have the wrong drivers loaded
[04:22] <nothing> im blasted
[04:22] <eseven73> gartral: yeah, its a 40 gig IDE hdd about 4 years old
[04:22] <tj83> largeprime, without a detected access point i am not sure.. i do know the manual connnect syntax is like iwconfig wlan0 essid wifiname
[04:23] <gartral> eseven73: yes, but are you sure theres NOT more than 20 gigs of data ALREADY on it?
[04:23] <hacker07> what is a good place to learn c
[04:23] <pchater> Any really experienced computer guys in here (Mainly System Builders / troubleshooters)?
[04:23] <tj83> largeprime, assuming you do get connected you will have to run dhclient wlan0
[04:23] <hacker07> I am a system builder
[04:23] <Digital7> pchater: what's the issue?
[04:23] <largeprime> tj83 i cannot get the net connection manager to even look for anything
[04:23] <darvin> aham
[04:24] <eseven73> gartral: theres about 10 gigs used, another Ubuntu OS
[04:24] <eseven73> so 30 gigs is free/empty
[04:24] <pchater> Digital7: Black Screen won't POST - AsRock Penryn1600SLIX3-WIFI board. Done a full system diagnostic; processor, hard drives, graphics are fine.
[04:24] <gartral> eseven73: and are the counters moving, at all?
[04:24] <eseven73> nope
[04:24] <gartral> eseven73: its stuck...
[04:24] <eseven73> stuck at 00:09:08
[04:24] <eseven73> :(
[04:24] <eseven73> now what?
[04:24] <darvin> vcs sao americanos?
[04:25] <Digital7> pchater: checked the power supply yet?
[04:25] <largeprime> tj83 command not found?
[04:25] <tj83> largeprime, i am afraid i dont know how to better help :(
[04:25] <Digital7> pchater: the 110/220 switch, that is
[04:25] <Digital7> pchater: there's a little red switch that says 110 or 220 -- i've seen them cause that
[04:25] <gartral> eseven73: not sure, you sure the drive was ok before you started
[04:25] <gartral> ?
[04:25] <eseven73> gartral: yep worked just fine
[04:25] <tj83> largeprime, do iwconfig --help maybe i had the syntax wrong.. i cant try it as i am online currently
[04:25] <pchater> Digital7: Power Supply is also fine. Motherboard Powers on, and the drives all spin etc. But it doesn't post. Also I believe the 110 / 220 is a voltage increase so I don't want to make my Power Supply go BANG :P
[04:26] <largeprime> you pointed out my bdcom wless should be using legacy drivers.  can you tell me how to install thoes?
[04:26] <bazhang> pchater, ##hardware for that
[04:26] <tj83> largeprime, no, you will have to do more research
[04:26] <|v|aster> anyone know a channel i could get help with a SQL error?
[04:27] <bazhang> |v|aster, /msg alis help
[04:27] <tj83> largeprime, it was talking about actually flashing the firmware... not sure i would attempt that just yet
[04:28] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okaym I have a 150GB drive, the first part is a NTFS partition of 40GB, the rest, I just formatted to Ext3. how can I mount the Ext3 parition and copy my date from the NTFS partition to the Ext 3 one ?
[04:28] <tj83> Iceman_B^Ltop, you will need to do from ubuntu instead of windows... you cant mount the ext3 drive in windows natively
[04:28] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I am on ubuntu right now
[04:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> well, Im running the 8.10 live cd
[04:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I want to convert everything to Ext3, and keep my daa
[04:29] <tj83> both partitions should show under places then Iceman_B^Ltop
[04:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> *data
[04:29] <largeprime> tj83 iwconfig wlan0 essid "myroutereesid" gave operation not permitted
[04:29] <Iceman_B^Ltop> oh, right
[04:30] <tj83> largeprime, use sudo
[04:30] <|v|aster> largeprime, try it with sdo
[04:31] <largeprime> did.  worked?  ping something?
[04:31] <tj83> largeprime you have to run dhclient wlan0
[04:31] <tj83> to get your ip address
[04:31] <tj83> largeprime, then run ifconfig to see if you have anything
[04:31] <Iceman_B^Ltop> tj83: I cant paste files from the one partition to the other :/
[04:32] <Omeil> Hi all, I'm having an issue i downloaded some standard app updates for ubuntu and restarted then suddenly it just freezes during login with distorted logo have tried to fix X server and also uninstalled GDM and reinstalled
[04:32] <Omeil> I have some images here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1105926 but haven't had any forum replies
[04:32] <largeprime> nope.  pastebin it?
[04:32] <Techfoo_0> greetings all
[04:32] <tj83> Iceman_B^Ltop, any errors? look a the details. permissions?
[04:33] <tj83> largeprime, wouldnt hurt
[04:33] <Iceman_B^Ltop> no errors
[04:33] <Iceman_B^Ltop> when I select the files and hit copy
[04:33] <ynk> which glade package should i get? 'glade' or 'glade-gnome'?
[04:33] <Iceman_B^Ltop> "paste"stays gryed out
[04:33] <tj83> Iceman_B^Ltop, try the mv command from terminal
[04:34] <Iceman_B^Ltop> k
[04:34] <Iceman_B^Ltop> pwd
[04:34] <Iceman_B^Ltop> err
[04:34] <Iceman_B^Ltop> wrong keyb
[04:36] <tj83> Iceman if paste is greyed out its likely a permissions error.. you will have to go to the mounted drive in /media then run sudo chmod -R /media/disk/ "where disk represents the drive path"
[04:36] <tj83> Iceman if paste is greyed out its likely a permissions error.. you will have to go to the mounted drive in /media then run sudo chmod -R /media/disk/ "where disk represents the drive path" Iceman_B^Ltop
[04:36] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ok
[04:36] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ive got highlights on both nicks :)
[04:36] <kevin_zhong> hmmm, Ubuntu is running in "low graphics" mode, but it is now giving me the option to run at 1024x768 while with the correct drivers it would not, what is wrong?
[04:36] <tj83> Iceman if paste is greyed out its likely a permissions error.. you will have to go to the mounted drive in /media then run sudo chmod -R 777 /media/disk/ "where disk represents the drive path" Iceman_B^Ltop
[04:37] <tj83> "777" correction
[04:37] <Omeil> Hi all, I'm having an issue i downloaded some standard app updates for ubuntu and restarted then suddenly it just freezes during login with distorted logo have tried to fix X server and also uninstalled GDM and reinstalled I have some images here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1105926 but haven't had any forum replies
[04:37] <tj83> Iceman_B^Ltop, once you have all data set you will want to learn how to use chown and chmod to get your perms the way you want them
[04:38] <kevin_zhong> hmmm, Ubuntu is running in "low graphics" mode, but it is now giving me the option to run at 1024x768 while with the correct drivers it would not, what is wrong?
[04:39] <TualatriX> Hi, Does anyone know how to make a daily-build bot for launchpad PPA?
[04:40] <bazhang> https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart TualatriX
[04:40] <jamiejackson> Omeil: intel graphics?
[04:41] <largeprime> tj83 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/139964/
[04:41] <kevin_zhong> can anyone help me? I upadted a driver for my nvidia card because all I could get is 800x640, and the driver failed but now under low graphics mode I can use 1024x768, can I leave it in low graphics mode permanently?
[04:41] <clearscreen> !repeat kevin_zhong
[04:41] <clearscreen> !repeat | kevin_zhong
[04:42] <TualatriX> bazhang: Thanks. I've owned my PPA. But I don't know how to implement the daily build.
[04:42] <kevin_zhong> sheesh, the robot is consoling me :)
[04:42] <tj83> largeprime, sorry bro... keep searching... the answer is out there.... took me 2 solid weeks to figure mine out.
[04:42] <bazhang> TualatriX, what about asking the appropriate channel ( #launchpad )
[04:42] <Omeil> jamiejackson, No ATI Radeon HD2600 but i have put the original xorg.conf "vesa" back in place
[04:43] <tj83> largeprime, and when you do create a page like this for others
[04:43] <tj83> !realtek
[04:43] <TualatriX> bazhang: Oh, Sorry! Thank you. I will go to the channel.
[04:43] <kevin_zhong> :(
[04:44] <largeprime> thanks for trying tj.  think i am gonna install 8.04 as elky? suggested
[04:45] <jvm_> hi. i lost my terminal. i can start many instances of gnome-terminal, but they do not show up. they are not minimized, they are not on the other desktop. they are just..nowhere. maybe on my second monitor, which is not connected. what to do to get it back?
[04:45] <tj83> largeprime, worth a try... 8.10 tends to have better support for newer hardware but 8.04 is runs more stable.
[04:45] <claytronic> Anyone running the Intel 82801DB-ICH4 chipset? Have a long standing issue with the volume controls. For some reason the headphone volume isn't controlled by the master volume
[04:48] <bazhang> !give me a test
[04:48]  * Cosmo gives bazhang :bazhang!n=bazhang@unaffiliated/bazhang PRIVMSG #ubuntu :+!give me a test.
[04:49] <bluenzo^nix> What is the most common/popular mp3/media player that has visualizations and whatnot...
[04:49] <Cpudan80> hmm that's debatable
[04:49] <bazhang> !players > bluenzo^nix
[04:49] <usser> yep debatable
[04:49] <Cpudan80> rhythmbox comes with ubuntu
[04:49] <Cpudan80> dont think it has visualizations though
[04:49] <bluenzo^nix> thanks bazhang
[04:49] <clearscreen> Cpudan80: it does
[04:50] <drfreema> bluenzo^nix:  vlc has visualizations
[04:50] <Cpudan80> oh I stand corrected
[04:50] <drfreema> and supports lots of codecs
[04:50] <bluenzo^nix> i have VLC, id ditn know it had visualizations :P
[04:50] <bluenzo^nix> XMMS2, comes with ubuntu?
[04:51] <bazhang> bluenzo^nix, audacious is the replacement for xmms
[04:51] <bluenzo^nix> bazhang, k thanks
[04:53] <zaccour> do all network hubs work with Ubuntu or just certain ones?
[04:53] <jvm_> zaccour, all of them.
[04:53] <Cpudan80> zaccour: every last one
[04:53] <Alex_21> Lol
[04:54] <zaccour> ok thanks
[04:54] <Alex_21> Lol
[04:54] <Cpudan80> zaccour: if you find one that doesn't work - smash it with a hammer
[04:54] <Cpudan80> as its not worth anything
[04:54] <zaccour> hahaha okedokey
[04:54] <themurmish> Hi
[04:54] <zaccour> just wanna make sure i buy a good one
[04:54] <Heimark> I agree
[04:54] <Cpudan80> zaccour: don't buy a hub
[04:54] <Cpudan80> buy a switch
[04:54] <Alex_21> I second that
[04:54] <Cpudan80> you probably cant even buy a hub now adays
[04:54] <Alex_21> Buy a switch
[04:55] <themurmish> I am having a Mongrel server running on port 3001 and can reach it from the machine itself. However I cant connect to it via the network
[04:55] <zaccour> Cpudan80, where do i get a switch?
[04:55] <Alex_21> It is on my LAN and works great
[04:55] <Cpudan80> Hubs take the incoming line and split it across all clients (100 MB in, 10 clients = 10MB / client). A switch gives the full smash to everyone
[04:55] <Alex_21> I really prefere switches
[04:55] <zaccour> what are they called? network switches?
[04:55] <Cpudan80> zaccour: any legit retailer walmart, bestbuy ...
[04:55] <themurmish> Switches also prevent collisions
[04:56] <bazhang> !ot
[04:56] <clearscreen> you can use some cheap-ass 20 euro router as a switch too :)
[04:56] <Cpudan80> zaccour: they are called switches --- anything by linksys will do
[04:56] <clearscreen> just disable DHCP and you're set :P
[04:56] <zaccour> ok thanks
[04:56] <clearscreen> Oh, and plug in your wan cable in one of the LAN slots, not WANslot
[04:56] <genii> Or use a crossover
[04:57] <kevin_zhong> is there anyway I can force Ubuntu to run in "Low Graphics Mode"
[04:57] <themurmish> Does anyone have any idea why I can't reach port 3001 (or any other port other than 80)?
[04:57] <zaccour> the reason i need a switch is because my internet wont connect to my ps3 without being connected to a computer also
[04:57] <genii> kevin_zhong: Specify on grub line option:   vga
[04:58] <zaccour> do switches connect to the computer and the game console at the same time? the name switch sounds like one or the other
[04:58] <kevin_zhong> how do I do that?
[04:58] <zaccour> i mean, with a switch would it be connected to 2 different machines at the same time??
[04:58] <lockd> zaccour: the PS3 uses DHCP correct?
[04:58] <themurmish> zaccour the switch distributes the network packets to the proper recipients
[04:59] <genii> zaccour: Yes, or however many it has plugs for. Typically 4,8,12, and 16 plugs
[04:59] <zaccour> ok thanks
[04:59] <zaccour> whats the difference between a switch and a hub?
[04:59] <themurmish> the hub just forwards to everyone
[04:59] <kevin_zhong> genii: how can I specify on grub line option?
[04:59] <puff> Hm, I just got a mysterious failure when using the usb-creator to create an Ubuntu live CD on a flash drive.  It just said "failed with "Install command exited with code:: 256"
[05:00] <themurmish> that also might result in collisions and costs you bandwidth
[05:00] <themurmish> but with 2 systems connected this is neglectable
[05:00] <genii> kevin_zhong: For one-time boot, hit ESC when grub prompt begins. Then e to edit the loading line, etc. After editing it will boot with that option, but only that once. For permanent add the option in the line which loads the kernel in the /boot/grub/menu.lst   file
[05:01] <bluenzo^nix> does Audacious has a visualizer?
[05:01] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me whats required to learn to learn linux OS programming
[05:01] <andrewfree> I just plugged a flash drive in, it has 3 partitions how can I tell what they are named in dev?
[05:02] <Hobz> PerryArmstrong, have you had any experience with the C language?
[05:02] <|v|aster> learn perl and shell scripting, you will go far, PerryArmstrong
[05:02] <pines0ul> andrewfree: you could check /var/log/messages or you could mount the partitions and have a look at what's inside
[05:02] <PerryArmstrong> Hobz; i had in my 1st year in college...i have learnt upto stack , queue programming
[05:03] <pines0ul> whoa wait i'm in #ubuntu ... uh i'm sure there's some gui thing for that
[05:03] <zaccour> hubs are probably less expensive. would a hub be able to connect to both my computer and my ps3?
[05:03] <themurmish> zaccour: yes and yes
[05:03] <Hobz> PerryArmstrong, any particular area of the OS you're interested in?
[05:03] <lockd> I thought you said hubs are probably not even easy to come by anymore
[05:03] <PerryArmstrong> |v|aster; i have done some initial programming of shell like adding two numbers...etc i have it i this semester
[05:03] <themurmish> however I don't know how big the price difference is
[05:03] <andrewfree> pines0ul: nothing in the log :/
[05:04] <themurmish> you probably could even just use a crossover cable
[05:04] <themurmish> taht should be cheapest
[05:04] <andrewfree> wait
[05:04] <zaccour> whats a crossover bable?
[05:04] <puff> zaccour: An ethernet switch is a slightly smarter version of an ethernet hub, almost all such are switches these days and the cost difference should be negligible.
[05:04] <zaccour> cable
[05:04] <andrewfree> think I found it...
[05:04] <pines0ul> andrewfree: you could also do 'ls -lct /dev|grep sd' and see what's on top
[05:04] <PerryArmstrong> Hobz; i never programmed the OS..so i dont have much idea...but yes i do like to improve the performance
[05:04] <andrewfree> its sdb1
[05:04] <PerryArmstrong> of linux
[05:04] <andrewfree> I think it was in my log.
[05:04] <Hobz> PerryArmstrong, you might want to look into kernel programming, then
[05:05] <puff> zaccour: An ethernet hub replicates the signal on all cables plugged into it, a switch is smart enough to see which cable belongs to which MAC address and only replicate the signal on the cable for the MAC address it's intended for.
[05:05] <PerryArmstrong> Hobz; whats the difference between OS and kernel.. i have been trying to know this simce long time
[05:05] <zaccour> puff so a hub would be better for my ps3 to be connected at the same time?
[05:05] <themurmish> zaccour: You only ant to connect PS3 and PC right?
[05:05] <puff> How would I reformat a USB flash drive to fat32, just use fdisk?
[05:05] <pines0ul> puff: that will work
[05:05] <puff> zaccour: I have no idea what would be good for a ps3.
[05:06] <bluenzo^nix> I just installed xmms2 for kicks, i dont see it in my application menu
[05:06] <puff> pines0ul: Thanks.
[05:06] <zaccour> themurmish, my modem has 1 port, and it requires computer connection for the signal to be transmitted to the ps3
[05:06] <Flare183> puff: You can use gparted
[05:06] <Hobz> kernel is the os, essentially.  I can explain it here, but you're probably better off with the wikipedia article
[05:07] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: the kernel is part of the OS
[05:07] <Hobz> PerryArmstrong, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computer_science)
[05:07] <themurmish> zaccour: so I would then recommend to get a router instead and connect to that. If that's to expencive get a crossover cable and just conect PC and PS3 with that
[05:07] <ubuntnoob> i just did a fresh install of xubuntu and i went to synaptic to install samba and i got the folowing errorE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[05:07] <ubuntnoob> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[05:07] <kevin_zhong> genii: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic root=UUID=A68868BB88688C1D loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro ROOTFLAGS=syncio quiet splash  would be where I put it?
[05:07] <PerryArmstrong> lockd; ohkk so whats required to learn to program the kernel...embedded C??
[05:07] <andrewfree> pines0ul: so I found its sdc1.
[05:07] <zaccour> themurmish, whats a crossover cable?
[05:07] <themurmish> zaccour: If you had a router your PC wouldn't have to be on all the time you are playing with the PS3
[05:07] <pines0ul> andrewfree: congrats :)
[05:08] <genii> kevin_zhong: Right after where the word "splash" is
[05:08] <andrewfree> But when I try to mount it it says cant find it in fstab
[05:08] <Flare183> ubuntnoob: That means that you need to report it as a bug
[05:08] <kevin_zhong> ok, thanks!
[05:08] <ubuntnoob> and i'm scared
[05:08] <themurmish> zaccour: A crossover cable allows you to connect to devices directly
[05:08] <Flare183> !bugs | ubuntnoob
[05:08] <caeroe> so on #mythtv-users they're telling me my kworld 120 should just work.   is there anything in ubuntu 8.10 x64 that is conflicting with this tuner card?
[05:08] <pines0ul> andrewfree: try mounting it as superuser
[05:08] <genii> kevin_zhong: You're welcome
[05:08] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: C, the kernel's API, IRQs, etc
[05:08] <kevin_zhong> ill restart now and see if it works :)
[05:08] <puff> themurmish: Oh, is that what he wants?  Yah, you need a router to share an internet connection between to machines.
[05:08] <PerryArmstrong> lockd; IRQ??
[05:08] <Serraphyn> caeroe: which Tuner Card is it?
[05:08] <zaccour> thanks yall, i guess im out to wal-mart to see what they have there
[05:08] <bluenzo^nix> or hub
[05:08] <Hobz> andrewfree, did you make a directory for it in /mnt/?
[05:08] <themurmish> zaccour: with hub or switch you cna connect more than 2 devices but you need one cabe for eahc devices
[05:09] <puff> zaccour: Most routers you can buy these days also have a built-in 4-port switc.
[05:09] <puff> zaccour: But chekto make sure, obviousyl.
[05:09] <andrewfree> Hobz: no.
[05:09] <Hobz> ah
[05:09] <zaccour> ok, thanks
[05:09] <themurmish> zaccour: Good luck shopping!
[05:09] <caeroe> kworld 120, clone of x8000a atsc/ntsc hybrid
[05:09] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: interrupts. you may need to learn/reverse engineer how to get a device initialized, as well
[05:09] <caeroe> i have the firmware in /usr/lib
[05:10] <puff> zaccour: And, like themurmish  said, you'll also need one cable for each conneciton, so that's one for each machine plus one for from the router to the DSL modem or cable modem
[05:10] <themurmish> Does anyone have any idea why I can't reach port 3001 (or any other port other than 80)?
[05:10] <Hobz> andrewfree, you'll want to set up your /mnt/ directory like it was before you rebooted
[05:10] <sirstan> I was installing Ubuntu 8.04 server and it failed at the package selection -- so i just installed grub and rebooted.  Did I miss some important configurations steps?
[05:10] <caeroe> just taking a stab, hoping someone is familiar with it, albeit a longshot
[05:10] <Flare183> themurmish: Because there isn't a application that has that port opened
[05:10] <Serraphyn> caeroe: I have my 878 card running on 8.04 right out of the box but its on a 32-bit distro.  Do you have any SCSI cards installed? I had an issue with those
[05:11] <PerryArmstrong> lockd; i have got so much information now...but what i need to know is its not normal C programming thats required for kernel programming..so how do i lern that
[05:11] <caeroe> nope.  my old atsc card worked flawlessly though  :)   but it's a paper weight now
[05:11] <Heimark> any suggestions for ftp server and client program for Ubuntu? I want to be able to access the music on my desktop from my netbook without having to transfer 7 gigs at a time through a USB drive
[05:11] <sirstan> PerryArmstrong: *very* carefully.  The kernel has no memory manager.
[05:11] <PerryArmstrong> lockd *learn that
[05:11] <andrewfree> Hobz: I have no idea what it was before I rebooted. hda and live is all thats in it now.
[05:11] <Flare183> Heimark: yes
[05:11] <Serraphyn> caeroe: did you just install the 8.10 64-bit?
[05:11] <caeroe> er make that my old ntsc... durrr
[05:12] <Hobz> andrewfree, The mkdir stuff should be in the install.pdf
[05:12] <PerryArmstrong> sirstan; ohh what does this make sense of??
[05:12] <Flare183> Heimark: proftpd for the server and filezilla for the client
[05:12] <Hobz> andrewfree, what step are you at?
[05:12] <puff> themurmish: Depends on a lot, please explain what you're seeing in more detail, i.e. reach port 3001 from what machine to what machine?
[05:12] <sirstan> PerryArmstrong: ... what did you just say?
[05:12] <caeroe> i was using x64 bit, it could have been 8.04 back then
[05:12] <Serraphyn> Heimark: setup samba sharing? thats what I do with my MP3 directory
[05:12] <Heimark> Flare183: thank you
[05:12] <Flare183> Serraphyn: That's also a good idea
[05:13] <basti> how can i assign the harddrives listed in nautilus a name to be shown rather then there size?
[05:13] <Serraphyn> caeroe: reason I'm asking is just cause you can try a quick install of 32 bit to see if it works.
[05:13] <zaccour> i just found a wireless router for sale on lsn. do all wireless routers work fine on Ubuntu?
[05:13] <andrewfree> Hobz: root@bt:~# mke2fs /dev/sda1 but I was trying to find out what my flash drive was named. Being as its not sda1
[05:13] <PerryArmstrong> sirstan; if the kernel has no memory manager...what do i need to derive from this concept??
[05:13] <zaccour> I checked lsn before leaving to walmart and found a wireless router for 30
[05:13] <Hobz> andrew_, if you've found it, just continue with the steps.  Your device shouldn't be mounted yet.
[05:13] <Serraphyn> zaccour: you do know that the router has very little to anything to do with your OS
[05:14] <ziroday> zaccour: err if connected via ethernet then yes
[05:14] <puff> themurmish: If you're expecting something to be listening on port 3001 on your machine, you can check by doing the following form the shell on the same machine:  a) telnet localhost 3001, then hit enter once or twice.
[05:14] <Heimark> Serraphyn: I thought Samba was for Windows/Linux mixed systems
[05:14] <Hobz> woops, andrewfree even
[05:14] <sirstan> PerryArmstrong: its amazingly easy to crash yor system trying to develop kernel modules
[05:14] <zaccour> ok thanks
[05:14] <puff> themurmish: b) run netstat -lnp
[05:14] <ziroday> basti: right click on the drive in nautilus's places menu and click rename
[05:14] <Serraphyn> Heimark: it can do *nix to *nix, or nix to win
[05:14] <saysay> I having problems booting Ubuntu Luks with 2 harddrives, but booting with one works, Anyone seen this problem ?
[05:14] <Hobz> andrewfree, there isn't even a filesystem to mount yet
[05:14] <andrewfree> true...
[05:14] <PerryArmstrong> sirstan; ohh so this is what you meant...then how do we learn...we can't risk our systems..is there any simulation type
[05:14] <Serraphyn> saysay: SATA?
[05:15] <sirstan> PerryArmstrong: vmware?
[05:15] <saysay> SATA 2 raptors
[05:15] <ziroday> Serraphyn: Heimark: however as a general rule *nix to *nix is better done with NFS :)
[05:15] <sirstan> PerryArmstrong: Xen?
[05:15] <basti> ziroday, this option is not accessable
[05:15] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: I would suggest either VirtualBox or QEmu for fiddling with kernels
[05:15] <ziroday> basti: why not?
[05:15] <PerryArmstrong> sirstan; that's a really awesome idea...
[05:15] <andrewfree> Hobz: but it has sda1 and sda2 I only have sdb1 the other drives are the internal ones that are my moms stuff. I dont want to touch that.
[05:15] <Serraphyn> ziroday: true, but I use samba as most friends that come over to get on wireless use windows still and it makes life easier to just have a share they can connect to
[05:15] <claytronic> themurmish netstat -lnp | grep 3001
[05:15] <Heimark> sorry, I might be a little slow, trying to use two computers at once
[05:16] <basti> ziroday, how should i know. it is shown but i cant access it
[05:16] <PerryArmstrong> lockd; i suppose Vbox is better as its sun product
[05:16] <PerryArmstrong> better engineered
[05:16] <ziroday> Serraphyn: sure, you should also check out giver. Its a neat tool for sharing files over a LAN and is cross platform
[05:16] <Hobz> andrewfree, you say hda is the only directory in /mnt?
[05:16] <ziroday> basti: err have you mounted the drive yet?
[05:16] <andrewfree> no
[05:16] <sirstan> PerryArmstrong: poor assumption; but run with it.
[05:16] <andrewfree> there is live too Hobz
[05:16] <basti> ziroday, sure. they are all in fstab
[05:16] <caeroe> it may be detecting just a generic atsc card.... (preemptive "yay")
[05:16] <Serraphyn> ziroday: true, I just tend to tell people the most headache free way that I've seen to avoid ongoing issues.
[05:17] <claytronic> and Vbox will be even better after Sun is an IBM product ;)
[05:17] <lockd> VBox is generally easier to get running, though
[05:17] <Hobz> andrewfree, don't worry about live, live is you.  hda is your mom.  ls /mnt/hda/ and you should see some windows stuff
[05:17] <ziroday> basti: okay, and when right clicking the drive that option is just not there?
[05:17] <PerryArmstrong> sirstan; i used vbox for running XP...so which according to you is better
[05:17] <basti> ziroday, it is there, but it is "blanked" out
[05:17] <Hobz> PerryArmstrong, just go with what you know until it breaks
[05:17] <ziroday> basti: okay, thats because the hard drive is not mounted. Is there a mount option on the right click menu?
[05:17] <andrewfree> lol Hobz shes on osx. And hda has boot and BT4... 0.o
[05:17] <PerryArmstrong> Hebz; thats a good
[05:18] <themurmish> puff: , :claytronic netstat tells me that ruby is listening there. Everything else would be suprising since I cna reach the serve rfrom Firefox from the local machine
[05:18] <basti> ziroday, they are mounted
[05:18] <basti> mount -l proves that
[05:18] <ziroday> basti: how are they mounted?
[05:18] <Hobz> andrewfree, enter dmesg into a terminal
[05:18] <themurmish> However it does neither work from my windows Laptop nor my gf's Mac
[05:18] <basti> ziroday, like i said,listed in fstab
[05:18] <PerryArmstrong> Hebz; thats a good idea...but i dont want to grow old experimenting each and everything only to leran when i become very old that this is what i have to use
[05:18] <andrewfree> Hobz: and?
[05:19] <PerryArmstrong> Hebz; sometimes we have to learn from others experiences also
[05:19] <Hobz> PerryArmstrong, that autocomplete is killing me, bro
[05:19] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: at least make sure you can get a serial terminal to communicate with the host os. if you can't, you're not ready for kernel programming
[05:19] <themurmish> and there is no firewall running
[05:19] <PerryArmstrong> Hebz; autocomplete??
[05:19] <Hobz> andrewfree, sorry, run dmesg | grep sdb
[05:19] <Hobz> who are you talking to?
[05:19] <Hobz> hobz or hebz?
[05:20] <ziroday> basti: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[05:20] <Xn^uTh> so why the whole sudo thing
[05:20] <PerryArmstrong> lockd; serialterminal??
[05:20] <Xn^uTh> I can't kill processes from top
[05:20] <basti> ziroday, no usb
[05:20] <ziroday> basti: it will still work for sata/ide drives
[05:20] <lockd> themurmish: does nmap say it's listening
[05:20] <puff> Hm, "fdisk -l" shows the USB flash disk at /dev/sdd1, but "sudo gparted /dev/sdd" says "cannot stat device sdd - no such file or directory"
[05:21] <jaem> is there any easy way to script password tries for gpg on the command line?    Given the length of the passphrase, there's still well over 100 possible combinations, and I don't have the patience to sit there that long >_<
[05:21] <andrewfree> Hobz: yes its in my logs/messages
[05:21] <lockd> themurmish: there's a good chance it's listening only on loopback
[05:21] <basti> ziroday, will cheggit out
[05:21] <puff> Ah-hah, "sudo gparted /media/disk" (which is where the flash drive is mounted) says it's mounted read-only. WTF?
[05:21] <claytronic> themurmish: make sure Ruby is not set to only listen for local IP traffic
[05:21] <Hobz> andrewfree, is there an sdb1?
[05:21] <themurmish> lockd: How do I run nmap?
[05:21] <ziroday> puff: you have to unmount the drive first
[05:21] <lockd> themurmish: nmap localhost
[05:22] <themurmish> thx
[05:22] <puff> Doh!
[05:22] <puff> ziroday: Thanks.
[05:22] <themurmish> it only shows the following: PORT     STATE SERVICE
[05:22] <themurmish> 631/tcp  open  ipp
[05:22] <themurmish> 1527/tcp open  tlisrv
[05:22] <themurmish> 3001/tcp open  nessus
[05:22] <themurmish> 3306/tcp open  mysql
[05:22] <FloodBot1> themurmish: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:22] <themurmish> 8000/tcp open  http-alt
[05:23] <ziroday> themurmish: please put multilined outputs in pastebin
[05:23] <ziroday> !pastebin | themurmish
[05:23] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: serial console, it lets you forward the console to a terminal (like xterm) on the host OS
[05:23] <puff> themurmish: I dont' know ruby's deal, but if you're setting it up in to work with apache, as is the case with java, then it's probably only accepting localhost connections on 3001 and apache should proxy to it using mod_proxy.
[05:23] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: otherwise, you won't have a way to copy and paste kernel errors
[05:24] <Stimp1> Request assistance with running ubuntu on my HP NC6000 laptop.
[05:24] <themurmish> Sorry for the multiline post. I hardly ever use IRC.
[05:24] <jaem> Stimp1: what's your problem?
[05:24] <puff> themurmish: Is that supposed to be ruby on port 3001 or some ruby app?
[05:24] <PerryArmstrong> lockd; ohhh..so xterm is a terminal??
[05:24] <puff> themurmish: e.g. ruby on rails?
[05:24] <lampe> hello
[05:24] <Stimp1> Dont know if it is a driver prob or what. I cannot seem to mount my Card reader on this thing
[05:25] <puff> themurmish: Also, you might want to check on #ruby for advice.
[05:25] <lockd> PerryArmstrong: actually a terminal emulator, like gnome-terminal, Terminal, rxvt, etc
[05:25] <themurmish> puff: Ok it seems we identified the problem. I will try to fid how to solve this myself sinc eit seems to be a Rails (yes) problem
[05:25] <lampe> can some one help me with eclipse and ruby?
[05:25] <themurmish> puff: Yeah I think so too. Thank you for helping me identify the problem!
[05:25] <lockd> themurmish: what exactly is this ruby server supposed to be doing anyway?
[05:25] <themurmish> lol another Ruby problem
[05:26] <ziroday> lampe: if we know whats wrong we can try
[05:26] <themurmish> lampe: What's the problem?
[05:26] <Flannel> jaem: There is.  gpg can be used with an option that'll accept a passphrase (or another that'll take it from stdin).  You can use something simple like clearsign to verify.
[05:26] <andrewfree> Hobz: yes there is sdb1
[05:26] <claytronic> a lot of interest in Ruby these days
[05:26] <lampe> i want to get eclipse work with ruby and i found a tut but the server dont work so i cant install ruby to eclipse
[05:26] <Hobz> andrewfree, qtparted might help
[05:26] <andrewfree> Hobz: its in /dev
[05:26] <Hobz> 0k
[05:27] <themurmish> lockd: I am running redmine (redmine.org) which is a project managment software. It has a bug with Google chrome taht I wnat to fix. therefore I have to reach t with my laptop since Chrome is not available on Ubuntu yet
[05:27] <PerryArmstrong> lockd; so which one do i use
[05:27] <Stimp1> I understand that it could be a specific problem with the computer i have but is there something I can do to see if the card reader is even working?
[05:27] <Flannel> jaem: Also, there's language bindings for gpg as well.
[05:27] <lockd> lampe: were you able to get RDT?
[05:27] <lampe> no
[05:27] <themurmish> lampe the server hosting the Eclipse plugin?
[05:27] <Hobz> andrewfree, how about an sdb2/3?
[05:28] <lockd> themurmish: and it is a standalone http server?
[05:28] <Iceman_B^Ltop> right so, Im trying to burn the 8.10 Server iso
[05:28] <Iceman_B^Ltop> but Nero keeps complaining about block size
[05:28] <Iceman_B^Ltop> something
[05:28] <andrewfree> Hobz: no thats the confusing part :/
[05:28] <lampe> http://updatesite.rubypeople.org/release this is what i got
[05:28] <lampe> but it dont work
[05:28] <themurmish> lockd: No as a Railsapp you have the choice bewteen diffeent servers. I am running Mongrel
[05:28] <Hobz> andrewfree, type mount in a terminal and see what's mounted, don't mind the loop stuff
[05:29] <kevin_zhong> genii: thanks! At least my screen is a 1024x768, although I have no drivers, so my refresh rate is at 0
[05:29] <lampe> can some one pls help :)
[05:29] <andrewfree> Hobz: no sdb 1,2, or 3.. figures they dont have a filesystem yet.
[05:29] <Hobz> andrewfree, what about sda?
[05:30] <themurmish> lampe Are you trying to install RadRails???
[05:30] <Hobz> andrewfree, sda might be your mom, then
[05:30] <andrewfree> nope
[05:30] <lampe> iam trying to develop ruby in eclipse
[05:30] <andrewfree> my mom is... let me look
[05:30] <lockd> themurmish: I'm searching for the listen option.. you might have better luck since you actually have the packages installed
[05:31] <andrewfree> yea my mom is not mounted
[05:31] <default_> nick booty
[05:31] <Hobz> andrewfree, run qtparted from the menu, that should give you a list of attached devices
[05:32] <claytronic> Anyone running Juanty?
[05:32] <andrewfree> much better