[12:01] <rupert> shaantanu: so i was wrong
[12:02] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: wasnt expecting to see uhere :P
[12:02] <shaantanu> so u think i shud go for the linux client ??
[12:02] <shaantanu> I hav been using this channel for over a month
[12:02] <SanketMedhi> what are we talking about?
[12:02] <zoidberg> hey is there an official ubuntu MAC channel
[12:02] <SanketMedhi> ohk
[12:02] <zoidberg> thats like this
[12:02] <SanketMedhi> cool
[12:02] <zoidberg> ?
[12:02] <rsk> zoidberg: #ubuntu-ppc i think
[12:02] <necrofile> Obviously if you're using linux, you should get the linux client ;)
[12:02] <rupert> shaantanu: eee ?
[12:02] <SanketMedhi> client for?
[12:03] <shaantanu> hey ppl I am planning to install vmware on ubuntu and boot windows in it ... what shud i download, VMware Server Windows client package or VMware Server linux client package ?
[12:03] <shaantanu> this was my original question
[12:03] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: hold on
[12:03] <shaantanu> k
[12:03] <[b] urk> (C) does local variables get their value deleted when i leave the block they got declared? or are they still the same when i return to that block?
[12:03] <rupert> shaantanu: workstation is the name of the computer that is runing in virtual enviroment ?
[12:03] <shaantanu> rupert : what do u suggest now ??
[12:03] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192328
[12:03] <shaantanu> hmm lemme check out
[12:03] <rupert> shaantanu: or the name of system that is running natively
[12:04] <mcphail> [b] urk: i think you declare them as static if you want them to persist. Ask in ##c
[12:04] <fyrestrtr> !vmware
[12:04] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[12:04] <[b] urk> thanks mcphail
[12:04] <SanketMedhi> ok one question from my side...how do I change my app's tray icon?
[12:04] <shaantanu> sanket : whats windows vista ??
[12:05] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: forget that
[12:05] <shaantanu> will work for XP ??
[12:05] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: follow the first 3-4 steps for Vmware installation
[12:05] <necrofile> One last quick question; is there anyway that when I click an address bar or input field that it will automatically highlight everything with the first, single click?
[12:05] <C> how do I get my memory stick to work in dapper?
[12:05] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: yes...
[12:05] <shaantanu> ok .. thanx
[12:05] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: once you have vmware working, you can use it to run any OS
[12:06] <shaantanu> C: if ur stick is USB connected .. then ubuntu auto detects it
[12:06] <shaantanu> ok .. gr 8
[12:06] <Ackeubu_> fluxbox
[12:06] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: what arch do you use?
[12:06] <C> not usb - unfortunately internal
[12:06] <shaantanu> pentinum - i386
[12:06] <C> sony memory stick
[12:06] <Ackeubu_> hey what is the shortcut to change input language when running gswitchit_
[12:06] <fyrestrtr> C: what do you mean its internal?
[12:06] <rupert> shaantanu: but which windows do you want to run on vm server ?
[12:06] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: ok
[12:06] <necrofile> If it's an SD card it will detect too
[12:06] <shaantanu> C: what do u mean by internal .. how do u connect it to ur computer ??
[12:07] <necrofile> which is what it sounds like what you mean by internal.
[12:07] <fyrestrtr> C: do you mean its built-in?
[12:07] <shaantanu> rupert : thanx for ur help man .. the problem is now resolved
[12:07] <FirstStrike> anyone have any idea why i'd be unable to mount a windows drive after compiling a kernel?
[12:07] <C> sony computers come with memory stick readers built in or onboard anyway inside
[12:07] <SanketMedhi> FirstStrike: why did you compile the kernel?
[12:08] <FirstStrike> because i needed 2.6.17
[12:08] <SanketMedhi> FirstStrike: did you choose the right modules? NTFS???
[12:08] <thoreauputic> FirstStrike: did you compile in ntfs/ fat support ?
[12:08] <FirstStrike> hmm
[12:08] <Ramunas> hello
[12:08] <FirstStrike> unless it was selected by default, no.
[12:08] <plastic> labas
[12:08] <SanketMedhi> isn't FAT support enabled by default?
[12:08] <SanketMedhi> oops! :P
[12:08] <Ramunas> when i try to write, erase or do anything else on my cd i get this: http://p.pixel.lt/paste/9eea7d5175379ca2dd303261116d04f5/nolines
[12:09] <FirstStrike> it's an NTFS file system
[12:09] <SanketMedhi> you can't rely on the defaults!
[12:09] <Ramunas> any ideas?
[12:09] <FirstStrike> yea, i know.
[12:09] <Ramunas> it used to work fine before
[12:09] <FirstStrike> i followed the guide on the forum
[12:09] <SanketMedhi> FirstStrike:  NTFS won't work like that
[12:09] <FirstStrike> did the tweeks
[12:09] <FirstStrike> hmm
[12:09] <SanketMedhi> FirstStrike: you have to enable NTF
[12:09] <SanketMedhi> NTFS*
[12:09] <FirstStrike> i'll go through it again
[12:09] <FirstStrike> do you know what option it's under?
[12:09] <necrofile> wth
[12:09] <zoidberg> can anyone help me with getting ubntu to work on a G3 POWERBOOK?
[12:09] <SanketMedhi> don't remember sorry
[12:09] <nzk> How do i install linux under windows under mac osx under another linux under a 2nd mac os x
[12:09] <FirstStrike> ok
[12:09] <FirstStrike> i'll take a look
[12:10] <FirstStrike> that's the only thing that's broken though
[12:10] <Sakunix> cant sudo on a fresh install of ubuntu server?
[12:10] <Sakunix> any ideas?
[12:10] <FirstStrike> so i'll consider it good kernel
[12:10] <FirstStrike> :P
[12:10] <FirstStrike> since it's my first compile
[12:10] <Sakunix> error: about gethostbyname()
[12:10] <zoidberg> can anyone help me with getting ubntu to work on a G3 POWERBOOK?
[12:10] <SanketMedhi> Sakunix: the user has to be in the admin group
[12:10] <fyrestrtr> Sakunix: edit /etc/hosts
[12:10] <Sakunix> fyrestrtr, whats it supposed to have in it
[12:11] <jrib> SanketMedhi: make sure the line "<IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost luso<IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost HOSTNAME" is in /etc/hosts, your HOSTNAME is in /etc/hostname
[12:11] <Sakunix> fyrestrtr, I have 3 machines next to eacho ther all with alost identical /etc/hosts
[12:11] <SanketMedhi> jrib: why me?
[12:11] <SanketMedhi> I did not ask the question! :S
[12:11] <shaantanu> lol
[12:11] <fyrestrtr> Sakunix: type 'hostname' , what do you get?
[12:11] <jrib> Sakunix: oops, taht was a typo, I mean: <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost HOSTNAME
[12:11] <jrib> SanketMedhi: because I just woke up :)
[12:12] <SanketMedhi> lol
[12:12] <gotmilk> anyone available to answer some simple questions from a newbie?
[12:12] <jrib> gotmilk: just ask them, if we know we'll help you out
[12:12] <zoidberg> can anyone help me with getting ubntu to work on a G3 POWERBOOK?
[12:12] <fyrestrtr> !anyone
[12:12] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:12] <fyrestrtr> zoidberg: don't repeat, please.
[12:13] <gotmilk> lol ive come from others chans where its frowned apon and u get berated
[12:13] <mcphail> gotmilk: we're friendlier here :)
[12:13] <treb0r> hey chaps - can anybody tell me how to install a pc font in .zip format?
[12:13] <KenSentMe> !fonts
[12:13] <dools> hi, i'm using ubuntu 5.10 powerpc edition to install onto an iBook and i'm getting an error installing initrd tools. has anyone had experience with this?
[12:13] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[12:13] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[12:13] <gotmilk> well im editing my sources.list file to uncomment lines as i installed while it wasnt connect to the net and the installed commented them , but i dont know how to save it after ive made the changes
[12:13] <Sakunix> ok you need root privaledges to edit /etc/hosts yes.. and sudo doesnt work
[12:13] <gotmilk> cli
[12:14] <Sakunix> we have a problem fyrestrtr and jrib
[12:14] <jrib> treb0r: you need to unzip it first I think
[12:14] <KenSentMe> gotmilk: use sudo
[12:14] <jrib> Sakunix: don't you have a root account on the server?
[12:14] <KenSentMe> !sudo > gotmilk
[12:14] <treb0r> jrib: and then what?
[12:14] <Sakunix> I do
[12:14] <KenSentMe> gotmilk: look at the info ubotu sent you
[12:14] <Sakunix> its a fresh install
[12:14] <Sakunix> just booted up
[12:14] <C> Any ideas on the built-in memory stick problem
[12:14] <jrib> treb0r: then follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[12:14] <shaantanu> gotmilk : sudo chmod 770 /etc/apt souces.list
[12:14] <Zyfo> I "installed" my ATI drivers with EasyUbuntu, but apparently they doesn't seem to work, cause I get 1 fps on lots of games which should work. How can I install them "manually"?
[12:14] <Sakunix> sudo doesnt work on this brand spanking new instal
[12:15] <dools> Sakunix: sudo is just a secure method of delegating root access
[12:15] <jrib> Sakunix: you should be able to type 'su -' and get root access
[12:15] <KenSentMe> !ati > Zyfo
[12:15] <Sakunix> kk
[12:15] <treb0r> jrib: thanks dude!
[12:15] <KenSentMe> Zyfo: check what ubotu sent you
[12:15] <k31th> wat is a "challange password" (regarding a ssl cert)
[12:15] <rupert> shaantanu: sorry i was of for few minut so, which one was the good one ?
[12:15] <Zyfo> thx, did
[12:15] <dools> Sakunix: it's quite a clever name actually because it's like 'su do' as in you 'do' an 'su', but also like pseudo root user :)
[12:16] <shaantanu> k31th: its kinda of a public key which the certificate matches withe records
[12:16] <fyrestrtr> its actually, switch user do
[12:16] <shaantanu> rupert : still to try
[12:16] <shaantanu> k13th : try out en.wikipedia.org for more info
[12:16] <k31th> shaantanu: should i mkae it secure or wat?
[12:16] <rupert> shaantanu: sorry i was of for few minut so, which one was the good one ?
[12:16] <scrooloose_> hi
[12:17] <scrooloose_> im trying to turn x off so i can install my video drivers
[12:17] <shaantanu> rupert : I dint try out will let u know soon
[12:17] <scrooloose_> but init 2 isnt doing it
[12:17] <dools> fyrestrtr: was it you in here yesterday who recommended i go from 6.0.6 to 5.10 when it was hanging doing install?
[12:17] <scrooloose_> any hints?
[12:17] <fyrestrtr> dools: no.
[12:17] <rupert> shaantanu: ok
[12:17] <jrib> !nvidia > scrooloose_
[12:17] <shaantanu> k13th: preferably yes
[12:17] <Sakunix> it tells me authentication failed
[12:17] <fyrestrtr> scrooloose_: ctrl+alt+f1, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:17] <Sakunix> when I type the password I typed at the install
[12:18] <gotmilk> so it will save the changes as i make them under sudo?
[12:18] <shaantanu> gotmilk : r u talking to me ??
[12:18] <dools> has anyone installed 5.10 on an iBook?
[12:18] <scrooloose_> Sakunix: thx
[12:18] <SanketMedhi> Sakunix: is the user you tried sudo with in the admin group?
[12:18] <gotmilk> anyone mate :)
[12:18] <shaantanu> gotmilk : sudo chmod 770 /etc/apt souces.list
[12:18] <Sakunix> I just installed installed it so I assume so
[12:18] <jrib> Sakunix: well you can reboot and choose recovery mode from the grub menu, but I'm not sure why you wouldn't be able to su to root unless your password is actually incorrect
[12:18] <shaantanu> this will allow u to save the file
[12:19] <Sakunix> jrib, kk will do
[12:19] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: what ?
[12:19] <mcphail> gotmilk: if you try to edit the file without using sudo, you will not be able to save
[12:19] <Ramunas> dools: I'm sure somebody has, just not me
[12:19] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: chmod to save a file? :S
[12:19] <shaantanu> he cant alter the sources.list file dude
[12:19] <mcphail> shaantanu: that is unsafe
[12:19] <dools> Ramunas: hyuk hyuk
[12:19] <shaantanu> chmod will be changing perms
[12:19] <fyrestrtr> shaantanu: that is not a solution.
[12:19] <shaantanu> by default he does not have the write perm
[12:19] <FirstStrike> in qconf, what's the difference between a dog in a check box and a check mark in the check box?
[12:19] <SanketMedhi> gotmilk: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:19] <mcphail> shaantanu: i repeat, that is unsafe
[12:19] <FirstStrike> er..dot
[12:19] <shaantanu> by my comand it will give him write perm
[12:19] <fyrestrtr> shaantanu: there is a reason for that.
[12:19] <gotmilk> yeah thats what i am using
[12:20] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: changing perms can make the system insecure
[12:20] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: try changing perms of /etc/securetty :P
[12:20] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: you won't be able to login into your own system :P
[12:20] <thoreauputic> shaantanu: the permissions are there for good reasons
[12:20] <fyrestrtr> shaantanu: there is a reason the permissions are set the way they are, and there is a reason why you must use sudo. Don't think you can change permissions on files and make them writable for everyone and nothing will go wrong.
[12:20] <sergio-> hello
[12:20] <sergio-> is there a way to umask only one directory?
[12:20] <sergio-> i mean i want the subdir's and files created in that subdir have perms rwx for goup
[12:20] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: never mess with perms for non-private files
[12:21] <gotmilk> once im in the .list file and changed it how do i save lol (brnad new to linux) as if i have to say that though lol
[12:21] <mcphail> shaantanu: the sources.list is a list of _trusted_ download sites and should not be world-writable
[12:21] <pequatre> hello everyone. Does anyone know if xine supports .pae playback ? f so, which is the packet to dl ? thx
[12:21] <lhds> GUYS i have tried to download a 40 megs file for 5 times and its cutting ... i really need a getright like program i am on ubuntu help
[12:21] <mcphail> gotmilk: what are you using to edit the file?
[12:21] <gotmilk> vi
[12:21] <SanketMedhi> sergio-: chmod 770 filename
[12:21] <fyrestrtr> lhds: sounds like a problem with your internet connection
[12:21] <thoreauputic> lhds: try d4x or gwget
[12:21] <SanketMedhi> gotmilk: vi filename
[12:21] <chemaja> lhds: there's firefox extensions
[12:21] <mcphail> gotmilk: press escape then :wq then enter
[12:21] <SanketMedhi> gotmilk: then Esc + :wq for saving it
[12:21] <pequatre> s/pae/ape
[12:21] <SanketMedhi> yeah
[12:22] <lhds> firefox extensions?
[12:22] <lhds> gwget websource?
[12:22] <SanketMedhi> lhds: use wget
[12:22] <gotmilk> ahh k , is there a document i can read for those types of commands?
[12:22] <mcphail> gotmilk: you might want to try an easier text editor to start off with
[12:22] <SanketMedhi> lhds: gwget breaks up a file if you disconnect it, wget does not
[12:23] <mcphail> gotmilk: vim is very powerful, but there is a lot to learn
[12:23] <SanketMedhi> gotmilk: System >> HElp >> System Documentation or go to wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:23] <lhds> great
[12:23] <thoreauputic> SanketMedhi: umm - that's configurable: gwget can resume
[12:23] <lhds> thats nice to know
[12:23] <SanketMedhi> ok
[12:23] <lhds> so ill wget my mother from now on
[12:23] <SanketMedhi> thoreauputic: I have faced huge probs with gwget when dloading a DVD
[12:23] <goudkov> hi guys, is there any downside to using noatime on a production box?
[12:23] <mcphail> gotmilk: run "vimtutor" from the command line
[12:24] <gotmilk> yeah im doing it from cli ( probably shouldnt but i think ill learn more from the get go ) well actually im doing this so i can install KDE
[12:24] <thoreauputic> SanketMedhi: hmm - well I admist I use wget in a terminal :) just as easy
[12:24] <stray77> id be using a torrent app if i were downloading a dvd
[12:24] <thoreauputic> *admit
[12:24] <SanketMedhi> thoreauputic: wget rocks!  Does anyone know if xine supports .ape playback ? f so, which is the packet to dl ? thx
[12:26] <mcphail> lhds: you can set wget to pass a user-agent string of your choice
[12:26] <pseudomorph> hi folks, I've got a small problem with a patition i accidently filled with a torrent, I've moved the torrent to another partition however /home reports as full (87Mb used 1.1Mb on a 4.5 gig partition)
[12:26] <neenaoffline> can I add "bash mountfs.sh" to rc.local ?
[12:26] <SanketMedhi> I have a command in /etc/rc.local which runs as normal user when I want it to run as root. What can I do to make it run as root user???
[12:26] <fyrestrtr> neenaoffline: use /etc/fstab
[12:27] <neenaoffline> okay
[12:27] <jrib> sergio-: maybe check out ACL's for that
[12:27] <jrib> gotmilk: for vi commands?
[12:28] <shaantanu> sorry i got DC
[12:28] <FirstStrike> SanketMedhi: does "NTFS file system support" sound familiar? :P
[12:28] <shaantanu> sanket u there ??
[12:28] <SanketMedhi> yes
[12:28] <SanketMedhi> FirstStrike: I don't get you
[12:28] <FirstStrike> :>
[12:28] <shaantanu> so .. opening in vi editor will alow u to save sources.list ??
[12:28] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: only if you run it with sudo
[12:29] <stray77> :wq!
[12:29] <LadyNikon> shaantanu: what SanketMedhi said
[12:29] <shaantanu> and y is changing perms not suggested ??
[12:29] <Fudge> hi does ubuntu have a live cd that is downloadable?
[12:29] <stray77> yes
[12:29] <LadyNikon> because you can accidently lock yourself out
[12:29] <zanpakuto> anyone used xen with dual lan cards? how do I enable both on the domU?
[12:29] <KenSentMe> Fudge: the install cd is the live cd too
[12:29] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: it will give access to users who should not be able to access?chnge it
[12:29] <Fudge> ah too easy
[12:29] <KenSentMe> Fudge: go to http://ubuntu.com/download
[12:29] <Fudge> thanks muchly KenSentMe
[12:29] <shaantanu> ok ...
[12:30] <KenSentMe> Fudge: no problem
[12:30] <stray77> make sure youre getting 6.06.1
[12:30] <flo> hi, how can I browse my network using nautilus?
[12:31] <shaantanu> !nautilus
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <SanketMedhi> flo: Places >> Network servers
[12:31] <SanketMedhi> flo: else, Places >> Connect to server
[12:32] <SanketMedhi> hmmm
[12:32] <flo> SanketMedhi: yeah, there is a "Browse Network" Button. Is it possible to get a link to the Tree View, like when I create a link to a custom location?
[12:32] <nrdb> I am trying to get "Lemonade tycoon 2" to run under wine but I get the message "could not MapAndLoad" can anyone help?
[12:33] <SanketMedhi> nrdb: /join #wine
[12:33] <my_key> the shipit page seams down...
[12:33] <nrdb> SanketMedhi: been there :(
[12:33] <SanketMedhi> nrdb: you won't get any wine help here
[12:33] <jrib> nrdb: #winehq ?
[12:33] <SanketMedhi> nrdb: all games don't work on wine
[12:33] <my_key> anybody knows what happend?
[12:33] <nrdb> jrib: ok
[12:34] <SanketMedhi> flo: open nautilus. Go >> Location
[12:34] <KenSentMe> my_key: maybe they're working on it. We should have patience
[12:34] <jrib> nrdb: check the database on the wine site as well
[12:34] <SanketMedhi> try that I am outta ideas
[12:34] <nrdb> jrib: lots more people there.
[12:35] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: you there?
[12:35] <flo> got it -> Custom Location -> network:///
[12:35] <shaantanu> ya
[12:35] <flo> thanx for help
[12:35] <thoreauputic> shipit is up - pingable and open on port 80 anyway
[12:36] <metaloid> i'm getting sick of this:'ve a sony vaio-sz2hp. Everything was working fine, till I installed the latest kernel upgrade, now the i810 glx extensions don't work.qCould you help me out?
[12:36] <metaloid> And now, the most craziest thing. This laptop has 2 graphic cards, the intel and the nvidia.If I uninstall the nvidia-glx package and reinstall the libgl1-mesa-dri and libgl1-mesa packages, the i810 glx extensions work perfectly untill I install the nvidia-glx, that causes them to don't work again.
[12:36] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic: i get a launchpad page
[12:36] <shaantanu> apt-get install wine
[12:36] <shaantanu> Reading package lists... Done
[12:36] <shaantanu> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:36] <shaantanu> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:36] <shaantanu> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:36] <shaantanu> is only available from another source
[12:36] <thoreauputic> shipit is also listening on 443 - KenSentMe ah, I just telneted and pinged, let me look...
[12:36] <shaantanu> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[12:36] <shaantanu> what to do ??
[12:36] <thoreauputic> shaantanu: do *NOT* paste here!
[12:37] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: wine is no longer in the main repos
[12:37] <SanketMedhi> !pastebin > shaantanu
[12:37] <shaantanu> what repo then
[12:37] <SanketMedhi> !pastebin
[12:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:37] <shaantanu> k
[12:37] <Zyfo> uff. that ATI guide really fucked things up :p
[12:37] <metaloid> have u seen my problem?
[12:38] <metaloid> 've a sony vaio-sz2hp. Everything was working fine, till I installed the latest kernel upgrade, now the i810 glx extensions don't work.qCould you help me out?
[12:38] <metaloid> And now, the most craziest thing. This laptop has 2 graphic cards, the intel and the nvidia.If I uninstall the nvidia-glx package and reinstall the libgl1-mesa-dri and libgl1-mesa packages, the i810 glx extensions work perfectly untill I install the nvidia-glx, that causes them to don't work again.
[12:38] <shaantanu> anyways what repo is it in then
[12:38] <DevGet> http://pastebin.se/3454 <- anyone who knowns how to fix so apcupsd will be able to create the look file?
[12:38] <thoreauputic> KenSentMe: yes, confirmed - I get launchpad too
[12:38] <ShaggyDog> metaloid:  does your memory stick reader work on you vaio?
[12:39] <metaloid> lolol... havent tried the memory stick
[12:39] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[12:39] <Zyfo> I had all my file systems set to Ext3, now, after some fuckups I did in ubuntu, it's apparently set to RAW (X is wrongly confg. or so) What can I do to get it back to ext2(3)?
[12:39] <thoreauputic> there was maintenance on launchpad a few hours ago - maybe a few tweaks to do still
[12:40] <kyefun> anyone know how to get unicode to work on rythembox?
[12:40] <metaloid> ShaggyDog : on the computer view there is a sony hs-usb stick,dunno what it is
[12:40] <ShaggyDog> what kernel version are you using?
[12:41] <metaloid> 2.6.15-26-686
[12:41] <tuxub> hello everyone
[12:41] <Zyfo> !ati
[12:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:42] <ShaggyDog> metaloid:  mine doesn't mount at all, nothing happens when I put in a MS
[12:42] <Zyfo> I did  'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and then everything got fucked up. How can I go back to the backed up version using only terminal?
[12:42] <tuxub> i am having a problem with procmail: doesnt this rule * ^Subject: {Spam?} catch all e-mails whose subjects start with {Spam?} and with anything after that???
[12:47] <thoreauputic> !language > Zyfo
[12:47] <Zyfo> well ok, I'm sorry.
[12:47] <gotmilk> is :WQ a special key?
[12:48] <stray77> in vi?
[12:48] <mcphail> gotmilk: no
[12:48] <gotmilk> yeah
[12:48] <thoreauputic> gotmilk: no, you hit escape, then type that ( in vi)
[12:48] <stray77> : signifies a command
[12:48] <stray77> w = write
[12:48] <stray77> q=quit
[12:48] <mcphail> gotmilk: type "escape" to go to command mode then ":wq" to write and quit
[12:48] <ShaggyDog> metaloid:  vaoi vgn-tx1 and a desktop v2m - on neither does it work - is it my kernel?
[12:48] <martinvdk> why is enemy territory running at 10 fps in ubuntu and about 60 fps in windows??
[12:49] <shaantanu> gotmilk : <esc> :x will work just the same
[12:49] <neutrinomass> Zyfo: Check for automatic backups in /etc/X11 . If that fails, run it again. You should have backuped your xorg.conf though ...
[12:49] <Ng> martinvdk: have you installed the binary drivers for your graphics card?
[12:49] <martinvdk> I have installed those drivers from easy ubuntu
[12:49] <neutrinomass> Zyfo: There is a way to automatically detect anything without questions, like during installation, but I can't remember the command ....
[12:49] <Zyfo> neutrinomass: I have no idea how it's done.And yes, there is a bcakup but I don't know HOW to activate it
[12:49] <Ng> martinvdk: what kind of card do you have?
[12:50] <martinvdk> when I look down to the ground I can get it to 70 fps, but when I look up it drops
[12:50] <martinvdk> nvidia geforce 4 420GO 32 mb
[12:50] <neutrinomass> Zyfo: "sudo mv /path/to/backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and then hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:50] <gotmilk> ahh k escape then : then wq lol
[12:50] <Ng> martinvdk: perhaps try turning down some detail levels, but it sounds like its all ok
[12:50] <gotmilk> stupid me was being literal when someone said ESC + :WQ
[12:50] <Zyfo> neutrinomass: where's the backup then? I know it's at some logical place but I don't know where it actually is, you don't happen to know what the name is called?
[12:50] <Ng> martinvdk: you can run "glxinfo | grep vendor" in a terminal to check that you don't have an SGI GL library still being used
[12:50] <SanketMedhi> martinvdk: are you sure your drivers are working fine?
[12:50] <martinvdk> Ng: I've tried running on LOWEST detail and 640x480, it still only runs at about 25 fps
[12:50] <mcphail> gotmilk: vim isn't intuitive
[12:50] <neutrinomass> Zyfo: Um.. not sure. Try looking in /etc/X11 ...
[12:51] <Zyfo> neutrinomass: I know it craeted a backup, I even wrote it up in a .txt file, problem is I can't access that drive anymore... :P
[12:51] <Zyfo> ok, thanks
[12:51] <Zyfo> neutrinomass: how do I list all files in a dir?
[12:51] <gotmilk> much better now its actually communicating with the reps
[12:51] <neutrinomass> Zyfo: 'ls'
[12:51] <SanketMedhi> ls
[12:51] <SanketMedhi> :P
[12:51] <Zyfo> ok
[12:51] <Zyfo> what does "ctrl alt backspace" does?
[12:51] <stray77> ls -ln |more
[12:51] <neutrinomass> Zyfo: Take a look at /var/backups as well, it's likely to be there
[12:51] <SanketMedhi> restart X server
[12:51] <mcphail> Zyfo: dpkg-reconfigure creates a backup itself before changing the file
[12:51] <Zyfo> mcphail: I know, I just don't know how to activate the backup.
[12:51] <mcphail> Zyfo: have you locate dthat backup?
[12:52] <neutrinomass> ...he actually doesn't know where the backup is ... my guess is /var/backup
[12:52] <Zyfo> mcphail: no, I don't know how to do that either.
[12:52] <martinvdk> Ng: glxinfo | grep vendor gives Server glx vendor string: Nvidia Corporation, the same for client glx vendor string, and openGL vendor string
[12:52] <x-s-> what's the ubuntu xgl support channel?
[12:52] <neutrinomass> x-s-: #ubuntu-xgl
[12:52] <SanketMedhi> !xgl
[12:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:52] <KenSentMe> #ubuntu-xgl
[12:52] <Ng> martinvdk: that suggests that the accelerated drivers are working fine. try dropping the detail levels a bit I guess
[12:53] <martinvdk> Ng: It runs at about 25 fps with everything OFF/low and 640x480
[12:53] <mcphail> Zyfo: it will be under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.chainofnumbers
[12:53] <Zyfo> mcphail: thanks!
[12:53] <mcphail> Zyfo: the chain of numbers is the date of the backup
[12:53] <Zyfo> yeah, ty
[12:54] <gotmilk> hrmm i can ping google but its not connecting to the au archives
[12:54] <horrork> Ok here it isHp is 361855-001
[12:54] <gotmilk> should i just use the global ones
[12:55] <shaji> how does one play aveseq files on a dapper install?
[12:55] <mcphail> gotmilk: have you run "sudo apt-get update"
[12:55] <ShaggyDog> metaloid:  any ideas re memory stick?
[12:55] <shaji> avseq files are the mpeg files found on VCDs
[12:55] <gotmilk> yeah ive just run that and its not connecting
[12:56] <tuxtux> ciao
[12:56] <ompaul> gotmilk, paste the contents into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:56] <thoreauputic> gotmilk: you are using au.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[12:56] <gotmilk> yeah
[12:56] <azcazandco> hello everyone, can someone help me regain some key mappings?  for some reason I can no longer get the pound sign nor take screen grabs
[12:57] <thoreauputic> gotmilk: well, it appears to be up
[12:57] <thoreauputic> gotmilk: there are other u mirrors
[12:57] <thoreauputic> umm .au mirrors
[12:57] <ompaul> thoreauputic, use a web browser to prove :)
[12:58] <thoreauputic> ompaul: good advice :)
[12:58] <shaji> ubotu
[12:58] <thoreauputic> ompaul: gotmilk yep it open in FF no problems
[12:58] <thoreauputic> *opens
[12:59] <gotmilk> yeah same here on my laptop but not on the server
[12:59] <roxlu> hi all!
[12:59] <gotmilk> wierd
[12:59] <ompaul> gotmilk, please paste the sources.list in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:59] <roxlu> does anyone know a small / simple c++ editor for ubuntu?
[12:59] <mcphail> azcazandco: have you just switched to xgl/compiz?
[12:59] <[UNLY] mrp> anyone knows of a good streaming audio player for ubuntu to listen to online radio stations? Thanks
[01:00] <azcazandco> mcphail: I have installed it but not using it
[01:00] <nrdb> roxlu: I like gedit
[01:00] <roxlu> ok tahnx
[01:00] <gotmilk> umm id have to type the entire thing lol
[01:00] <thoreauputic> roxlu: nedit or scite perhaps
[01:00] <roxlu> thanx a lot..
[01:01] <thoreauputic> [UNLY] mrp: what kind of streams?
[01:01] <thoreauputic> [UNLY] mrp: you might enjoy streamtuner for shoutcast streams
[01:01] <azcazandco> mcphail: just figured out I can no longer tab for name completion in gaim also
[01:01] <[UNLY] mrp> ok i'll check it out,thanks
[01:02] <mcphail> azcazandco: no idea why, i'm afraid
[01:02] <Tarandus> !firewall
[01:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[01:02] <thoreauputic> [UNLY] mrp: your choice depends on what codecs the station uses really
[01:02] <azcazandco> mcphail: bummer
[01:02] <Zyfo> thanks a lot for your help guys, whoever you were, backup worked :P
[01:02] <thoreauputic> [UNLY] mrp: if you install streamtuner. install streamripper as well :)
[01:03] <Tarandus> my problem is that a) I need to log in and manually start firestarter and b) I cannot setup eth0 automatically to have no default route
[01:03] <Zyfo> !ati
[01:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:03] <azcazandco> oh well... back to try and map them again
[01:03] <Tarandus> that means a) I'd need a way to ifconfig eth0 up automatically without giving it a default gw
[01:04] <Tarandus> and b) then a way to start firestarter or something like that automatically
[01:04] <Tarandus> please help me and you rescue one machine from the grip of Gentoo ;)
[01:05] <mcphail> Tarandus: you don't have to log in to firestarter
[01:05] <mcphail> Tarandus: the rules it creates are present at boot
[01:05] <niekie> Tarandus, do you want to do something before the network connection comes up?
[01:05] <niekie> If so, use pre-up rules.
[01:05] <gotmilk> maybe i should give up on server based and just go desktop
[01:05] <Tarandus> mcphail: I guess firestarter fails to start because I have "internal" net always present (etho) but external net only sometimes (a pluggable WLAN card)
[01:06] <Lattyware> Hey, anyone know how to get an origonal Xbox controller working under Ubuntu?
[01:06] <stray77> gotmilk, try this http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[01:06] <jisatsu> does Ubuntu get installed with any kind of firewall by default?
[01:07] <Tarandus> so, I think I need network-manager to manage the WLAN card, and I need to set eth0 statically so that it will not have a default gateway
[01:07] <gotmilk> yeah ive seen that but for some reason this thing doesnt want to contact the archives keeps failing even though it can resolve goole and such when i ping it
[01:07] <Acid___> jisatsu: yes, iptables
[01:07] <Tarandus> niekie: Where are they located exactly?
[01:07] <gotmilk> google and such
[01:07] <niekie> Tarandus, umm..
[01:07] <jisatsu> Acid___:  how do I configure it to allow port 80?
[01:08] <Acid___> jisatsu: it allows everything by default :)
[01:08] <mcphail> Tarandus: edit /etc/network/interfaces (using man interfaces)
[01:08] <niekie> You need to add them to /etc/network/interfaces
[01:08] <jisatsu> it does? people are having trouble connecting to my httpd, refused connections
[01:08] <gotmilk> should i install breezy and then update to dapper, ive got a breezy install cd
[01:08] <gotmilk> or should i download and burn dapper
[01:08] <stray77> download the latest
[01:08] <niekie> Does anybody know how I should get my USB ext3 drive mounted on bootup?
[01:08] <stray77> use the .torrents
[01:09] <Acid___> jisatsu: humm, what is your internet connection ?
[01:09] <niekie> I have a USB HD partitioned with FAT32 and ext3
[01:09] <jisatsu> dsl
[01:09] <gotmilk> yeah ill install breezy to see if there is something wrong with the network while im download dapper
[01:09] <niekie> I want to mount the USB drive on /media/usbext3 on boot.
[01:09] <Tarandus> rebooting the firewall, brb
[01:09] <drpc> hi
[01:09] <Acid___> jisatsu: usb or ethernet ?
[01:09] <mcphail> niekie: somewhere under /media/
[01:09] <RamiKassab> hey guys, for some reason I get the "Unlock Keyring" popup for Network Manager that asks me to enter a password for default keyring to unlock for nm-applet. is there any way to get rid of this and what exactly is it trying to do?
[01:09] <jisatsu> Acid___:  Ethernet, but I have a DMZ configured
[01:09] <niekie> I tried the following on /etc/fstab: /dev/sda2       /media/usbext3  ext3    auto            0       0
[01:09] <drpc> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:09] <Acid___> jisatsu: ok
[01:10] <niekie> Though that does not work, the HD is not mounted on boot.
[01:10] <mcphail> niekie: the device will be /dev/sdx (where x could be any number)
[01:10] <niekie> However if I do sudo mount -a it does work.
[01:10] <niekie> mcphail, yes, I figured that out :)
[01:10] <drpc> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:10] <cowbud> can someone explain to me how login authenticates against the shadow passwd file?
[01:10] <niekie> /dev/sda1 is the FAT32, /dev/sda2 is ext3
[01:10] <IOU> any ideas why when booting from a CD on one of my computers, just after the Kernel loads, the system restarts?
[01:11] <Acid___> jisatsu: have you looked at netstat ?
[01:11] <mcphail> niekie: there used to be issues between udev and hotplug on boot, but don't know if that has been smoothed out since they were integrated
[01:11] <drpc> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:11] <niekie> mcphail, hmm..
[01:11] <jisatsu> Acid___:  what in particular? not sure how to use it
[01:11] <niekie> Do you know of any possible workaround?
[01:11] <Acid___> jisatsu: to see if it binds to the correct IP
[01:11] <mcphail> niekie: you could try adding mount -a to root's crontab @reboot
[01:12] <jrib> !compile > drpc
[01:12] <DarkRain> hello.
[01:12] <jisatsu> ah ok, good point ^^ lemme check
[01:12] <drpc> how
[01:12] <drpc> how?
[01:12] <jrib> drpc: check your private messages from ubotu
[01:12] <mcphail> niekie: but that is a poor hack
[01:12] <Acid___> drpc: apt-get install build-essential :)
[01:12] <niekie> mcphail, would it give any issues?
[01:12] <mcphail> niekie: it shouldn't
[01:12] <DarkRain> I was wondering, how difficult it is to set up a second monitor in ubuntu. (still trying to find a distro to settle down with)
[01:12] <jisatsu> Acid___:  looks like my IP address changed when I installed Linux, that must be it ^^ thanks for the help, I'll see if changing it fixes it
[01:13] <Acid___> jisatsu: ok :)
[01:14] <KenSentMe> DarkRain: check the forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[01:14] <mcphail> niekie: external usb drives have been problematic since udev was introduced
[01:14] <niekie> mcphail, =S
[01:14] <IOU> any ideas?
[01:14] <niekie> mcphail, it actually is an internal HD, but it's on an external casing, with USB.
[01:14] <niekie> Anyway, let's try adding the cron.
[01:14] <mcphail> niekie: same thing, i'm afraid
[01:15] <niekie> mcphail, I'm not that experienced with cron, how would I add it?
[01:15] <forngren> How can I use my ubuntu dvd to gain root access, in order to fix grub? I can't get http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_use_Ubuntu_Installation_CD.2C_to_gain_root_user_access to work
[01:15] <niekie> sudo -i and crontab -e, then add @reboot whattodo?
[01:15] <mcphail> niekie: type "sudo crontab -e -u root"
[01:15] <zoidberg> can anyone help me with getting ubntu to work on a G3 POWERBOOK?
[01:15] <Acid___> forngren: sudo passwd root
[01:16] <mcphail> niekie: then in the editor type "@reboot mount -a"
[01:16] <niekie> mcphail, allright, thank you very much :)
[01:16] <forngren> Acid___: huh, from live interface?
[01:16] <niekie> I'm going to try it now.
[01:16] <Acid___> forngren: mount your boot partition and fix it :)
[01:16] <niekie> Be back in a bit, I'll tell if it worked.
[01:16] <Acid___> forngren: yep, start a terminal
[01:16] <mcphail> niekie: _hopefully_ it will work
[01:16] <Lattyware> Hey, anyone know how to get an origonal Xbox controller working under Ubuntu?
[01:16] <Acid___> forngren: sudo passwd root <= to acces root account
[01:16] <Acid___> forngren: and then mount your boot partition
[01:16] <gotmilk> do the different desktop enviroments impact on programming development for applications within it?
[01:17] <forngren> Acid___: ok, thanks
[01:17] <mcphail> gotmilk: yes
[01:17] <jatt> gotmilk: no
[01:17] <gotmilk> hugely or just a little bit
[01:17] <gotmilk> lol
[01:17] <IOU> any ideas why when booting from a CD on one of my computers, just after the Kernel loads, the system restarts? Thought it could be a power issue
[01:17] <Acid___> forngren: hope that helps :)
[01:17] <gotmilk> which one :)
[01:17] <Acid___> forngren: query me if you need :)
[01:18] <jatt> gotmilk: Using emacs for development works the same on gnome, kde, etc. It depends on the development tools you use.
[01:18] <mcphail> gotmilk: gnome apps use gtk and gnome libraries. KDE apps use Qt. You _can_ use whatever widget set you want in either environment, but they'll look different
[01:18] <mr3vil> moin
[01:19] <Lattyware> OK, I have my xbox controller connected to my PC via a XBX -> USB cable I created, and I can get it to work with Windows Xbox Controller drivers, but I cannot find any equivalent Linux drivers.
[01:19] <gotmilk> im thinking about using xcfe as id like to use ltsp and not have a huge amount of processing to be done on the server (which is what they say xfce is better for)
[01:19] <Acid___> Lattyware: there's a driver in the kernel
[01:19] <Lattyware> Acid___: How can I get that to work then?
[01:20] <gotmilk> or what would u guys recommend?
[01:20] <Lattyware> Bacause I cannot get anything to recognise the controller
[01:20] <Acid___> Lattyware: modprobe xpad
[01:20] <shaji> any idea on how to play plain Video CDs on dapper?
[01:20] <shaji> i have the w32codecs installed
[01:21] <Zyfo> Is there some way I can transfer my mouse settings from Windows to Ubuntu? I really can't get it right.
[01:21] <KenSentMe> !vlc > shaji
[01:21] <Acid___> Lattyware: and then modprobe joydev
[01:21] <jatt> gotmilk: I don't understand what you are asking for. Do your application depend on a desktop manager? What does your application do?
[01:21] <IOU> brb in 5-10
[01:21] <Lattyware> Acid___: Done both.
[01:21] <Acid___> Lattyware: jstest /dev/js0 ?
[01:21] <shaji> thanks KenSentMe
[01:22] <Lattyware> jstest: No such file or directory
[01:22] <zoidberg> can anyone help me with getting ubntu to work on a G3 POWERBOOK?
[01:23] <Acid___> Lattyware: apt-get install joystick
[01:23] <Lattyware> Acid___: Got it allready
[01:23] <Lattyware> joystick is already the newest version.
[01:24] <Acid___> Lattyware: can you see in your dmesg if it talks about a joystick device
[01:25] <Lattyware> I don't understand, dmesg?
[01:25] <Tarandus> no, I still need to start the firestarter GUI to have the firewall work
[01:25] <jujimufu> ok, so, I went to this site: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building and I downloaded git and git-core, and when I run git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/mesa/drm, it says "/usr/bin/gitfm: fatal error: `chdir' failed: permission denied."
[01:25] <niekie> mcphail, works, thank you very much!
[01:25] <Lattyware> ah.
[01:25] <mcphail> niekie: np
[01:25] <Lattyware> I think I get it
[01:25] <Acid___> Lattyware: just type dmesg | grep js in your terminal
[01:26] <niekie> I'm now formatting it again because I messed something else up though, hehe. :)
[01:26] <mcphail> :)
[01:26] <Lattyware> Acid___: Then what?
[01:27] <drpc> hello
[01:27] <Acid___> Lattyware: have you got lines about a joystick device ?
[01:27] <drpc> it same po
[01:27] <drpc> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:27] <Lattyware> nope.
[01:27] <Lattyware> ah
[01:27] <Lattyware> wait
[01:27] <jatt> drpc: pastbin the whole configure output
[01:27] <neutrinomass> drpc: Have you installed build-essential ?
[01:27] <Thau|walk> is it in here i should ask questions about ubuntu 6.06 lamp php configuration?
[01:27] <Lattyware> [4306087.185000]  input: X-Box pad as /class/input/input5
[01:27] <Lattyware> [4300905.272000]  input: X-Box pad as /class/input/input4
[01:27] <dsas> Thau|walk: Ask away
[01:28] <engla> My Xorg continually uses cpu, does composite affect this, should I turn off composite?
[01:28] <Thau|walk> well i need a little help with configure php so that i can use db3
[01:28] <engla> Or is Continuous 10-40 % cpu usage normal for Xorg? Is it possible to push it to 5-10%
[01:28] <unplugd> Can anybody help? How to make apache/ubuntu read php3 file extensions? (trying to run dialupadmin with freeradius)
[01:29] <Lattyware> unplugd: Go into your httpd.conf
[01:29] <forngren> Acid___: I've mounted by boot partition, can I just sudo grub-install /boot/partition?
[01:29] <unplugd> lattyware: entering http.conf
[01:30] <Lattyware> add index.php3 to your DirectoryIndex list
[01:30] <KenSentMe> unplugd: are you using Apache or Apache2, if the latter, then make you config in apache.conf
[01:30] <Acid___> forngren: you grub-install /dev/xxx
[01:30] <stray77> unplugd, check out http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p6
[01:30] <forngren> Acid___: ok, thanks again
[01:30] <Acid___> forngren: no problem :)
[01:30] <Lattyware> unplugd: I think that's what you want, anyway
[01:31] <Lattyware> I'm not an expert :P
[01:31] <cntb> cntb: hi licensing problem in buying hp or any other portable. since a porable computer is not as modular in the buying sense of word. all companies impose buying an oem Ms license which I don t need in two cases . 1. linux !!! 2. customer already owns Volume license and has an unused license.>>>>>>>>>> so How to fight this ???
[01:31] <unplugd> trying to find directoryindex list ,using apache2
[01:31] <Khamael> if 64-bit isn`t that much faster than 32-bit, what is the point?
[01:31] <Lattyware> 64bit supports more RAM and stuff
[01:31] <Lattyware> I belive.
[01:31] <zoidberg> can anyone help me with getting ubntu to work on a G3 POWERBOOK?
[01:31] <Lattyware> Things like that.
[01:31] <Zyfo> Is there some way I can transfer my mouse settings from Windows to Ubuntu?
[01:31] <unplugd> found directoryindexlist in apache2.conf changed the settings
[01:32] <Lattyware> Acid___: OK, There were two lines refering to Xpad.
[01:32] <Lattyware> [4306087.185000]  input: X-Box pad as /class/input/input5 [4300905.272000]  input: X-Box pad as /class/input/input4
[01:33] <KenSentMe> zoidberg: what problem do you have. Explain what doesn't work and maybe someone here has a solution
[01:33] <Acid___> Lattyware: but none of them are talking us about a physical device
[01:33] <Nightattack> hello, I'm not getting any sound when playing Enemy Territory, can anyone help me please ^^ ?
[01:33] <Lattyware> Acid___: Not as far as I can see.
[01:33] <KenSentMe> Nightattack: do you have other programs running?
[01:33] <Nightattack> only gaim
[01:34] <KenSentMe> Nightattack: maybe close that too. I don't have sound in ET when i have TeamSpeak running
[01:34] <Nightattack> i tried already, didn't work :(
[01:34] <dmsantam> when i try to change resolution in gnome, it claims that: "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension"
[01:35] <dmsantam> how can i turn this on in xorg.conf?
[01:35] <justin_> Nightattack: did you try restarting ALSA?
[01:35] <zoidberg> well guys i'm trying to install Ubuntu Badger on a newworld G3 powerbook 333mhz 64mb ram
[01:35] <Nightattack> jusin_: how?
[01:35] <Nightattack> justin_: how? (ops :P )
[01:35] <zoidberg> when i am intalling it
[01:35] <zoidberg> i get all the way to partitioning diks
[01:35] <zoidberg> disk
[01:36] <zoidberg> and then the screen keeps on going white
[01:36] <zoidberg> any solutions?
[01:36] <KenSentMe> !return
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about return - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <KenSentMe> !enter
[01:36] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:36] <KenSentMe> zoidberg: do you try to install Breezy Badger or Dapper Drake?
[01:36] <zoidberg> breezy badger
[01:36] <zoidberg> i had tried installing xubuntu dapper
[01:36] <KenSentMe> zoidberg: maybe you can try the latest version Dapper
[01:37] <zoidberg> but i found out that dapper doesnt support g3 powerbooks
[01:37] <KenSentMe> zoidberg: ah, ok
[01:37] <justin_> Nightattack:  alsa-utils -restart from what I remember :P
[01:37] <zoidberg> it works randomly on some G3 machines
[01:37] <IOU> does anyone know why when i try booting from a CD on one of my computers, just after the Kernel loads, the system restarts? Thought it could be a power issue
[01:37] <zoidberg> but i had badger working before
[01:37] <zoidberg> i had installed it on this G3 powerbook
[01:37] <zoidberg> its when i tried to upgrade to dapper that i had problems
[01:37] <zoidberg> so i thought i should just install badger again
[01:37] <justin_> Nightattack: try /etc/init.d/alsa-utils -restart
[01:37] <justin_> Nightattack: try /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[01:38] <chris449> in this order: the computer came with xp, i re partitioned and installed ubuntu, grub didn't work, i installed bootmagic, grub runs when i select linux from bootmagic. how do i stop grub running?
[01:38] <zoidberg> and now i get this problem tat i dont know how to fix
[01:38] <justin_> try both with the - and without it
[01:38] <chris449> could someone help me?
[01:38] <zoidberg> anyone have any ideas
[01:38] <zoidberg> ?
[01:38] <Nightattack> justin_: ok i restarted
[01:38] <IOU> zoidberg, does your system do anything when it starts?>
[01:38] <KenSentMe> zoidberg: have you tried manual partitioning?
[01:39] <justin_> Nightattack: Alright, see if you have your sound back
[01:39] <nikon> ne 1 know why
[01:39] <Nightattack> justin_: didn't work, should I try to shut down gaim again?
[01:39] <mcphail> chris449: you didn't install grub to the mbr at your initial install
[01:39] <thoreauputic> zoidberg: I just did a wiki search on ibook G3 - you might find something that helps in there ->>
[01:39] <zoidberg> haventr really tried manula partitoning
[01:39] <nikon> synaptic would just load into memory
[01:39] <thoreauputic> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/G3?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=ibook+G3&fullsearch=Text
[01:39] <nikon> and then not show up ?!?
[01:39] <zoidberg> but how will that be any differien?
[01:39] <mcphail> chris449: instead you installed it to your ubuntu parttition
[01:39] <justin_> Nightattack: Besides gaim what do you have running right now?
[01:39] <justin_> Nightattack: Do you have any browsers open?
[01:39] <Nightattack> justin_: firefox
[01:39] <mistraal> how do I add locales on ubuntu server?
[01:39] <mcphail> chris449: your new bootloader will simply call grub on that partition
[01:39] <thoreauputic> zoidberg: oops sorry you said powerbook
[01:39] <justin_> Nightattack: Close it
[01:40] <KenSentMe> zoidberg: don't know , maybe there's a problem with the automatic partitioner
[01:40] <IOU> any ideas at all on my prob?
[01:40] <Nightattack> justin_: closed and tried et again, but still no sound
[01:40] <justin_> Nightattack: Sometimes flash will close the sound to all other apps, ven XMMS etc..
[01:40] <forngren> Acid___: http://ubuntu.pastecode.com/3226
[01:40] <nikon> ne ideas on my prob?
[01:41] <KenSentMe> nikon: when you run it from terminal, do you get an error or something?
[01:41] <nikon> no thats the thing
[01:41] <justin_> Nightattack: You have no sound in what again. ET right?\
[01:41] <nikon> i will try right now
[01:41] <zoidberg> so how do i use manual partitioning
[01:41] <zoidberg> ?
[01:41] <Nightattack> justin_: yep, in ET
[01:41] <stray77> carefully
[01:41] <chris449> i installed grub to the MBR when i installed ubuntu ( i guess it was automatic)
[01:41] <KenSentMe> zoidberg: it's an option in the installer
[01:41] <KenSentMe> zoidberg: don't know exactly
[01:41] <chris449> but it kept rebooting the comp, so i used a bootcd to install bootmagic
[01:42] <zoidberg> do i need to be in exper mode
[01:42] <mcphail> chris449: by what you have said, you didn't :(
[01:42] <nikon> KenSentMe yer it just
[01:42] <chris449> ok whatever
[01:42] <nikon> sits their cursor flashin
[01:42] <chris449> how do i get rid of it?
[01:42] <nikon> loads into mem
[01:42] <nikon> thats it
[01:42] <KenSentMe> zoidberg: i don't know. It's been a long time since i installed Breezy
[01:42] <alek> hi
[01:42] <thoreauputic> zoidberg: no, don't use expert mode unless you know how to set up sudo and groups
[01:42] <trygg> Heh, what do i have to apt-get to have gtk2-chtheme?
[01:42] <stray77> chris449, what do you want to replace it with?
[01:42] <chris449> bootmagic
[01:42] <chris449> bootmagic is in the MBR atm
[01:43] <thoreauputic> zoidberg: th eexpert install sets a root password and you have to reconfigure sudo manually
[01:43] <alek> which command stops ftp deamon?
[01:43] <chris449> but when bootmagic calls the linux partition, it freezes at GRUB loading stage 2
[01:43] <mcphail> chris449: you should be able to configure your new bootloader to directly boot the linux partition, rather than just calling grub. i have no experience with that bootloader tough, so can't tell you the syntax
[01:43] <nikon> lol it sits in mem
[01:43] <chris449> hmm ok thanks
[01:43] <chris449> i'll give it a whirl
[01:43] <nikon> makin everythin go slow
[01:43] <stray77> alek, which ftp server r u running?
[01:43] <nikon> high processor usage
[01:43] <thoreauputic> alek: depends which one - for example though sudo /etc/init.d/pureftpd stop
[01:44] <alek> vsftpd
[01:44] <eminem2oo> hello
[01:44] <thoreauputic> usually the scrip is in /etc/init.d anyway
[01:44] <alek> oki ill check
[01:44] <alek> it works
[01:44] <alek> =]
[01:44] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:44] <eminem2oo> HOW CAN I CONNECT THRU THE UNDERNET ?
[01:45] <alek> so every deamon is placed into /etc/init.d ?
[01:45] <thoreauputic> eminem2oo: first take the gum out from behind your caps lock
[01:45] <soheil> I havve problem swith many things
[01:45] <thoreauputic> ie stop shouting
[01:45] <KenSentMe> emile: he now has gum behind his power button
[01:45] <soheil> I dowwnloaded some thing using wine
[01:46] <KenSentMe> emile: sorry, i meant thoreauputic
[01:46] <jrib> soheil: try to tell us one thing at a time, or if some things eem related then just let us know
[01:46] <thoreauputic> heh I didn't notice the /quit
[01:46] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:47] <Tarandus> I'd need a way to set up a firewall with external network device absent so that when it is inserted (a pluggable WLAN card) the firewall would start functioning immediately
[01:47] <Nightattack> hello, I have no sound while playing ET, can anyone help me solve that ^^ ?
[01:47] <tjm> So erm.. why do you people use Ubuntu ?
[01:48] <agt> street cred
[01:48] <mr3vil> tjm cause it rocks
[01:48] <KenSentMe> Nightattack: have you tried running ET from terminal, maybe you get a sound error
[01:48] <Tarandus> Firestarter fails if the card is a) not inserted or b) not asociated with an access point
[01:48] <Nightattack> KenSentMe: yes i tried, no errors
[01:48] <jrib> Nightattack: make sure nothhing else is playing any sound before you start ET
[01:48] <XVampireX> tjm: Cause that's the buzzword nowadays, just like: Why do you use mp3's?
[01:49] <ardchoille> tjm: I use Ubuntu because I have found that it works best for what I want to do in Linux :)
[01:49] <lukus001> How can i mount my window xp hard disk. i tired "mount /dev/hdc1/ media window -t ntfs but that just make the drive respond to nothing whereas before is said it couldnt mount w/e
[01:49] <Nightattack> jrib: still didn't work :<
[01:49] <XVampireX> tjm: I'm about to try Gentoo though, I hear it's good and modular :P
[01:49] <jrib> Nightattack: try 'aoos command_for_ET' maybe?
[01:50] <jrib> Nightattack: aoss I mean
[01:50] <Nightattack> jrib: aoss et?
[01:50] <KenSentMe> Has anyone got dual screen working with an Ati 9800 Pro? I've run the tutorial on the ubuntuforums, but it doesn't work for me. The second screen is always the same as the first.
[01:50] <jrib> Nightattack: yeah, you'll need the alsa-oss package installed though
[01:50] <Nightattack> jrib: i get an error regarding sound
[01:51] <soheil> I installed a CD 'strategy' using wine
[01:51] <tsw> any ideas why clean dapper server install says "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device or resource busy" on ifup eth1?
[01:51] <Tarandus> Is there a way to store keys to wlan networks so that network-manager would not always cause the system to ask for a keyring password?
[01:51] <lukus001> No one know why my window hard disk wont mount properly?
[01:51] <chris449> hmm, anyone that remembers my problem from above, i chose to boot straight from the primary partition, and all it says is GRUB
[01:51] <chris449> not even loading stage something, it just says GRUB
[01:51] <KenSentMe> soheil: for problems with wine, most of the time you get them solved quicker at the #winehq channel
[01:51] <BlueEagle> lukus001: Which error message are you getting?
[01:52] <soheil> it yielded a couple of files,including strategy.exe
[01:52] <thoreauputic> !windowsdrives
[01:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:52] <Nightattack> jrib: i have it installed, here's my error btw http://paste.uni.cc/9483
[01:52] <tjm> Ubuntu sucks!
[01:52] <BlueEagle> chris449: does it say GRUB or GRUB>
[01:52] <mr3vil> tjm y?
[01:52] <chris449> the first one, it's not a grub prompt
[01:52] <KenSentMe> tjm: good for you
[01:52] <chris449> i can't type anything
[01:52] <lukus001> blueEagle, well i did the mount command from the guide but it wont leet me in i double click the drive and nothing happends
[01:52] <soheil> but wine doesn't execute strategy.exe
[01:53] <KenSentMe> soheil: like i said, try #winehq
[01:53] <lukus001> blueegale whereas before i did that, i got a error about it not being mounted
[01:53] <soheil> #wine
[01:53] <BlueEagle> chris449: Well then stage1 isn't properly installed. Did you use the livecd or the alternate install cd
[01:53] <jrib> Nightattack: does this suggestion work? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5246&highlight=enemy+territory+sound
[01:53] <BlueEagle> ?
[01:53] <BlueEagle> lukus001: I see. Which filesystem is on the partition in question?
[01:53] <Fracture_> does ubuntu have a 'recommended hardware' spec ?
[01:53] <lukus001> NTFS windows xp
[01:54] <jrib> Nightattack: some people are saying to just 'killall esd' before running the game, maybe that might work too
[01:54] <chris449> blueeagle: stage 1 sits in the MBR, bootmagic is in my MBR. Stage 2 is on the hdd, bootmagic selects the linux part of the hdd to boot from
[01:54] <BlueEagle> lukus001: try this in a terminal: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/DEVICENODE /mnt
[01:54] <BlueEagle> lukus001: you'll ofcourse need to change DEVICENODE to the device node of the partition (ie. hda1)
[01:54] <lukus001> change devicenode with hdc1?
[01:54] <KenSentMe> Fracture_: no it doesn't, but you can check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport if your hardware will work fine
[01:54] <lukus001> lol ^^
[01:55] <BlueEagle> chris449: Ahh, so you're using bootmagic to multiboot?
[01:55] <chris449> yes
[01:55] <chris449> sorry if that didn't come through earlier
[01:55] <tearfate> whats the different between kubuntu edubuntu and ubuntu?
[01:55] <BlueEagle> chris449: if so then you need to put stage1 on hdd as well.
[01:55] <chris449> o, how should i do that?
[01:55] <niekie> Hmm... now, how would I stop mounted drives from automatically appearing on the desktop?
[01:56] <BlueEagle> chris449: Are you using the livecd?
[01:56] <Nightattack> jrib: killall esd doesn't work, the suggestion gives me an error: 'permission denied' even with sudo
[01:56] <thoreauputic> tearfate: kubuntu - KDE desktop edubuntu - educational focus ubuntu - gnome desktop
[01:56] <niekie> If that is even possible.
[01:56] <chris449> not atm, ubuntu is on the hard drive
[01:56] <BlueEagle> chris449: Do you know if your network was properly detected when you booted from the live cd? (ie. did you try to browse the web from it?)
[01:56] <jrib> Nightattack: you mean: echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss   ?
[01:56] <Nightattack> jrib: yes
[01:57] <tearfate> theres no major different right?
[01:57] <chris449> i can't remember
[01:57] <chris449> but i'm not using the network from a live cd
[01:57] <jrib> Nightattack: do 'sudo -i', login, do the command, exit
[01:57] <thoreauputic> tearfate: all part of the same distribution
[01:57] <BlueEagle> chris449: I see. Well I will need you to boot from the live cd and then start an IRC client from it. Then I'll walk you trough fixing your GRUB from there.
[01:57] <jrib> Nightattack: note, I don't know what that actually does, it's just what the forums suggest in several places
[01:57] <chris449> blue eagle thanks
[01:57] <alek> when I run my comp, ubuntu asks me for login and pass. Can he login automaticly?
[01:57] <Nightattack> jrib: thanks jrib, that one work xD
[01:58] <tearfate> thoreauputic,i can find all the stuff in ubuntu right?
[01:58] <KenSentMe> tearfate: the difference are the desktops, Kubuntu uses KDE, Xubuntu Xfce and Ubuntu Gnome
[01:58] <thoreauputic> tearfate: in fact youcan have ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed at the same time in your system and choose which one to use on login
[01:58] <edgy> Hi, apt-get install ktranslator gives: E: Couldn't find package ktranslator though I can see there is a http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/kde/ktranslator, what's wrong please?
[01:58] <thoreauputic> tearfate: right
[01:58] <lukus001> BlueEgale, that didnt work either - same thign happen and it just doesnt respond.    The actuall error message i get is "error device is no removable" and error: could not execute pmount
[01:58] <Fracture_> KenSentMe: thanks
[01:58] <stray77> ive got kde, gnome and xfce all runnin on the same box
[01:58] <tearfate> that mean i have to dl all three to have all the feature?
[01:58] <KenSentMe> alek: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/desktop-tips.html
[01:58] <BlueEagle> edgy: using dapper or edgy?
[01:58] <edgy> BlueEagle: dapper
[01:59] <Mewshi> why haven't there been any updates for a while?
[01:59] <thoreauputic> tearfate: you can install them with synaptic or apt
[01:59] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell edgy about source-o-matic
[01:59] <tearfate> oh okie,nice thanks
[01:59] <BlueEagle> edgy: you need to add some repos to your sources.list.
[01:59] <thoreauputic> tearfate: for instance   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:59] <BlueEagle> edgy: Please have a look at the url ubotu sendt you.
[01:59] <tearfate> okie
[01:59] <BlueEagle> edgy: the file goes to /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <edgy> BlueEagle: I already have deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[02:00] <fblade> hey guys can anyhelp me my grub boot loader has messed up and i have lost the option to boot to windows
[02:00] <thoreauputic> tearfate: synaptic is the graphical installer app, or you can also use add/remove programs for most things
[02:00] <BlueEagle> edgy: Well it might be in the dedicated kde repos?
[02:00] <Tarandus> Hee hee, removed the check for external interface, and now it loads on startup, and is ready when I insert the card
[02:00] <c0nfidencal> hey all! hows going? uhm, i have a few questions! 1) which ftp client with fxp feature do u suggest? 2) u know... there was this app, with it u can add widgets like... whats the weaether in new york or something...  I've got ktranslator avail with apt-get
[02:01] <fblade> get my boot loader back so i can boot into windows again
[02:01] <Tarandus> Only problem is, it prompts for the WPA key every time I insert the card and associate with an AP
[02:01] <c0nfidencal> ?\:
[02:01] <edgy> BlueEagle: is your system 64bits or 32bits?
[02:02] <BlueEagle> c0nfidencal: gftp, gkrellm, /etc/X11/xorg.conf or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:02] <Tarandus> Is there a way to store WPA keys so that the machine wouldn't ask anything when I enter a wireless network?
[02:02] <BlueEagle> edgy: I am running 32bit
[02:02] <Mewshi> why haven't there been any updates for a while?
[02:02] <stray77> fblade, boot from your xp cd into recovery mode, logon to your windows install, run fixmbr and bootcfg /rebuild
[02:02] <lukus001> BlueEagle, that didnt work either - same thing happens and it just doesnt respond.    The actuall error message i get is "error device is not removable" and "error: could not execute pmount"
[02:02] <fblade> will that add the option to my grub?
[02:02] <richiefrich> c0nfidencal   vsftp, conky , /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:03] <stray77> no it will remove grub
[02:03] <c0nfidencal> BlueEagle: thx, but that gkrellm ... no no no, maybe u know other? i used other one... :\ i remember it was @ repos too
[02:03] <c0nfidencal> thx richiefrich too :)
[02:03] <c0nfidencal> gonna check em all
[02:03] <KenSentMe> stray77: he wants to keep grub and be able to run windows from grub
[02:03] <richiefrich> conky is better imo
[02:03] <fblade> i would like it to have the option to boot to windows thorugh grub
[02:03] <richiefrich> u can do more
[02:03] <c0nfidencal> :P
[02:03] <fblade> how can i add windows to the boot list
[02:03] <c0nfidencal> bah i forgot.. there was good one
[02:03] <c0nfidencal> :|
[02:03] <BlueEagle> lukus001: which command did you execute? Ie. which device node did you use?
[02:04] <c0nfidencal> gonna check forum :) maybe i can find that post again
[02:04] <richiefrich> c0nfidencal  http://conky.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
[02:04] <lukus001> Blueeagle?   i did what you list above and i used hdc1 which is my 40GB drive that fdisk lists
[02:04] <c0nfidencal> lemme check, thx:P
[02:04] <richiefrich> c0nfidencal thats conky.. u can use there  ~/.conkyrc there under the pics
[02:04] <BlueEagle> lukus001: ok. now try (in a terminal): ls /mnt
[02:04] <BlueEagle> lukus001: does it show your files?
[02:05] <c0nfidencal> :)
[02:05] <richiefrich> c0nfidencal thats what u remember?
[02:05] <edgy> BlueEagle: ok maybe it's sources.list but in my infinite wisdom to understand how things work, why would I need more than this line of deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse to be able to install ktranslator
[02:06] <lukus001> bash: /mnt: is a directory
[02:06] <BlueEagle> edgy: because there is a repo that is called deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main
[02:06] <c0nfidencal> richiefrich: dont think so actually ;|
[02:06] <c0nfidencal> that one was more stylish ^^
[02:06] <c0nfidencal> gonna let u know when i find, looking atm
[02:06] <richiefrich> ok
[02:07] <BlueEagle> edgy: and since ktranslator is a KDE package I would assume that is the repo in which you must look.
[02:07] <brush01uk> Greetings Everyone,  have a good day :-)
[02:07] <forngren> When I try to use "sudo grub-install /wantgrubhere" I get this: Format of install_device not recognized. Any ideas? (I'm trying to reinstall GRUB after a win install)
[02:07] <KenSentMe> brush01uk: same to you
[02:08] <ardchoille> ktranslator is in the universe repo
[02:08] <edgy> BlueEagle: but isn't http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/kde/ktranslator shows it's in the universe repo? if now how can I tell the real repo of the package?
[02:08] <BlueEagle> forngren: You'll need to chroot to the filesystem in which linux is installed.
[02:08] <lukus001> BlueEagle: all i get is bash: /mnt: is a directory
[02:08] <thoreauputic> !info ktranslator
[02:08] <ubotu> ktranslator: Translation program for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 149 kB, installed size 720 kB
[02:08] <BlueEagle> lukus001: from: ls /mnt/
[02:08] <BlueEagle> lukus001: ?
[02:08] <brush01uk> hi ken, new to linux unbuntu yesterday
[02:09] <BlueEagle> forngren: First mount your root filesystem on /mnt/
[02:09] <forngren> BlueEagle: ok
[02:09] <justin_> Where does WINE keep "windows/programfiles" ?
[02:09] <WYSIWYG> if i execute rm -f /, that will EMPTY the active disk/partition, wont it?
[02:09] <lukus001> BlueEagle sorry never notice the ls : ls: /mnt/: Permission denied
[02:09] <BlueEagle> forngren: then mount any /usr/, /boot/, /var/ or other partitions you might have on their appropriate places in /mnt/
[02:09] <BlueEagle> lukus001: sudo ls /mnt
[02:09] <thoreauputic> WYSIWYG: wrong synatx, and a bad idea :)
[02:09] <ardchoille> WYSIWYG: Do not perform that command unless you want to trash the entire system
[02:10] <WYSIWYG> i want to clean a disk
[02:10] <WYSIWYG> how do i do that?
[02:10] <lukus001> BlueEagle ok that lists all my files :)
[02:10] <BlueEagle> wysiwyg: fdisk to remove any partitions then create any parittion(s) you'd like
[02:10] <richiefrich> WYSIWYG u want to del it?
[02:10] <ardchoille> WYSIWYG: Look into formatting the partition
[02:10] <fblade> would this boot windows ? title Windows root (hda1) chainloader +1 ,
[02:10] <BlueEagle> wysiwyg: then mk*fs to format the partition to the filesystem you would like.
[02:11] <c0nfidencal> richiefrich: screen http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/350/screenshot2cn.png but i cant find app name, maybe u know from this screen?
[02:11] <BlueEagle> lukus001: good. Now have you got an entry for /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab ?
[02:11] <richiefrich> fblade what is your  windoews partition ?
[02:11] <BlueEagle> forngren: you done mounting?
[02:11] <fblade> hda1
[02:11] <lukus001> BlueEgale I havnt put one in there so nope?
[02:11] <raveneye> justin_: on my machine wine keeps it in :~/.wine/drive_c
[02:11] <drpc> hi
[02:12] <c0nfidencal> hi
[02:12] <drpc> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[02:12] <justin_> raveneye: Ok, so lets say when I uninstall WINE - will it remove the files along with it ? - or will I need to --purge?
[02:12] <drpc> the same
[02:12] <thoreauputic> drpc: install build-essential
[02:12] <fblade> richefrich: sorry its hda1
[02:12] <ardchoille> !b-e
[02:12] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:12] <forngren> forngren: yes now I am, /mnt/grub, shall I mount home asmwell?
[02:12] <richiefrich> fblade no that wont...
[02:12] <WYSIWYG> ok thx ppl :)
[02:12] <fblade> what can i do to get it to work?
[02:12] <BlueEagle> forngren: You don't need /home
[02:12] <BlueEagle> forngren: now try this command: sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc
[02:12] <forngren> ok
[02:12] <chris449> BlueEagle: remember me? is it possible to do it without being on irc off the live cd?
[02:13] <drpc> how i install
[02:13] <richiefrich> fblade u need this --> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/1dPuCs70.html
[02:13] <BlueEagle> chris449: Well I am helping forngren with the exact same problem now.
[02:13] <BlueEagle> chris449: but being on IRC would definetly help.
[02:13] <raveneye> justin_ when you apt-get remove --purge the program settings in your homedir are not touched.
[02:13] <lukus001> BlueEagle: theres no hdc1 entry in fstab
[02:13] <thoreauputic> drpc:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:13] <chris449> o damn i haven't been reading
[02:13] <ardchoille> drpc: Which app are you looking for?
[02:13] <BlueEagle> forngren: did that work at all or do you get unknown flag ....?
[02:13] <thoreauputic> !docs > drpc
[02:13] <forngren> BlueEagle: replace /mnt/proc with my mount path?
[02:13] <raveneye> justin_: when you want to get rid of that you need to go into your homedir and rm -rf .wine
[02:13] <jatt> drpc: you have written the same problem many times. If installing build-essential and if `which gcc` shows you a compiler, probably the problem lies in your configure script. *pastbin* the whole output of your configure script.
[02:14] <BlueEagle> forngren: Did you not mount it to /mnt/?
[02:14] <fblade> richfrinch and that will work, i dont  need to make any changes do it?
[02:14] <fblade> i*
[02:14] <c0nfidencal> http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/350/screenshot2cn.png <- anyone knows this uhm... widget appz name? :p ^^
[02:14] <justin_> raveneye: Alright..
[02:14] <chris449> o did i forget to mention? the comp i'm fixing is not this one
[02:14] <richiefrich> fblade no thats for  hda1 windows
[02:14] <drpc> Package build-essential has no installation candidat
[02:14] <raveneye> yw justin_
[02:14] <justin_> raveneye: thnx
[02:14] <forngren> I mounted it in a subdir to /mnt/, using discs manager...
[02:14] <richiefrich> fblade thats on my parents box..  /me got them on linux w00t
[02:14] <jatt> uh
[02:14] <thoreauputic> drpc: then your apt aources are wrong
[02:14] <thoreauputic> *sources
[02:15] <BlueEagle> forngren: yes. if you mounted your / filesystem somwhere other than /mnt then replace it with the proc directory of your installed filesystem.
[02:15] <thoreauputic> drpc: is this a new ubuntu install?
[02:15] <drpc> 5.10
[02:15] <fblade> thanks
[02:15] <BlueEagle> forngren: now, did that work?
[02:15] <forngren> BlueEagle: it seemed to work, no errors atleast
[02:15] <thoreauputic> drpc: no, I mean is it recently installed? Have you changed the sources.list?
[02:15] <BlueEagle> forngren: ok, good.
[02:15] <drpc> yes
[02:15] <drpc> i changed
[02:16] <BlueEagle> forngren: now, is your filesystem on IDE disk(s) or sATA or SCSI disk(s)?
[02:16] <thoreauputic> drpc: why?
[02:16] <chris449> that's me on my other comp
[02:16] <thoreauputic> drpc: that's your problem right therer
[02:16] <drpc> ok
[02:16] <Shinzetsu> hey guys, ubuntu can read fat32 right?
[02:16] <drpc> can u send me one new
[02:16] <ucordes> is there a way to create a custom live cd /dvd ?
[02:16] <drpc> ?
[02:16] <thoreauputic> !sources
[02:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:16] <drpc> yes
[02:17] <thoreauputic> !easysource > drpc
[02:17] <forngren> BlueEagle: How do I chroot it?
[02:17] <ardchoille> ucordes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06
[02:17] <thoreauputic> drpc: read ubotu's /msg please
[02:17] <unplugd> help? trying to open a .php3 file inside firefox. Firefox ask what to do with the file. How to run this file?
[02:17] <BlueEagle> forngren: Please answer my questions when I ask them. Is your filesystem on IDE disk(s) or SATA or SCSI disk(s)?
[02:17] <Shinzetsu> how do I wipe a harddrive and make a fat32 partition? Im going to make a ubuntu/winxp dualboot but I wanna backup my stuff
[02:17] <CarinArr> hey, i have a question about ldap.. I'm using ldap on my work machine. Now apparently they gave us all a new ca.cert last week, and I shouldn't be able to connect with the old ca.cert. However it works fine, so I'm wondering if my security settings are off somewhere.. I've got TLS_CACERT set up in my ldap.conf, does anyone know where else i could be going wrong?
[02:18] <BlueEagle> forngren: If you do not understand the questions please let me know. Don't try to skip ahead. :)
[02:18] <forngren> BlueEagle: ohh, sorry, I didn't see them, SATA/SDA6
[02:18] <ardchoille> !lamp > unplugd
[02:18] <drpc> man
[02:18] <chris559> i have ide drives, does that affect me differently?
[02:18] <BlueEagle> forngren: ok. Now run this command: sudo cp /dev/sda* /mnt/dev
[02:19] <drpc> i dont undrstand english good
[02:19] <BlueEagle> forngren: You'll need thoses deveice nodes.
[02:19] <lukus001> BlueEagle: I have nothing in Fstab for hdc1?   what do i need to add?
[02:19] <SirKillalot> hi, is there anybondy who knows how that frontend was called to easily configure compiz?
[02:19] <Shinzetsu> can I change a filesystem of a partition without formatting?
[02:19] <Shinzetsu> like transform it
[02:19] <thoreauputic> drpc: what is your first language?
[02:19] <richiefrich> c0nfidencal that is a widget
[02:19] <c0nfidencal> ye
[02:19] <c0nfidencal> well
[02:19] <c0nfidencal> to add it
[02:19] <c0nfidencal> u need app, no? :)
[02:19] <jatt> Shinzetsu: no
[02:20] <drpc> norsk
[02:20] <Shinzetsu> jatt: how do I wipe a harddrive and make a fat32 partition on it?
[02:20] <snoops> SirKillalot gset-compiz but it's out of date as far as I'm aware
[02:20] <unplugd> ardcholille: what do u mean?
[02:20] <thoreauputic> !no
[02:20] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[02:20] <c0nfidencal> uh, i gonna get back to live cd and check if all works, if so... gonna install new version of ubuntu ;) btw. how come sudo apt-get install xchat doesnt work? repos... maybe someone can share their repos, which has that xchat? :p
[02:20] <ardchoille> unplugd: read the pm that ubotu sent you
[02:20] <forngren> BlueEagle: cp: writing `/mnt/dev': No space left on device
[02:20] <BlueEagle> lukus001: /dev/DEVICENODE       /media/winxp    ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0
[02:20] <BlueEagle> lukus001: that's what I've got.
[02:20] <BlueEagle> forngren: oh?
[02:20] <richiefrich> c0nfidencal yes i dont know the name.. i dont use gnome/kde/xfce4   i use e16 = enlightenment  so i dont use  widgets.. sorry all ask someone that might know
[02:21] <BlueEagle> forngren: is your / partition full=
[02:21] <BlueEagle> ?
[02:21] <chris449> BlueEagle: i have my linux partition mounted and proc and dev bound to it, what now?
[02:21] <forngren> I'm on a livecd
[02:21] <BlueEagle> forngren: and did you substitude /mnt/dev with the path to the dev direcotry on your mounted linux system?
[02:22] <drpc> can u send me sources
[02:22] <forngren> Err, no
[02:22] <lukus001> BlueEgale, ok now thats saved, - how do i change its permissions currently i have 0 acccess? only owner:read
[02:22] <c0nfidencal> richiefrich: ok:P thx anyway, but uhm.. maybe u can check my other question? :P
[02:22] <c0nfidencal> that about xchat n repos
[02:22] <richiefrich> c0nfidencal  i was told the weather one was -->  gDesklets
[02:22] <c0nfidencal> YES
[02:22] <c0nfidencal> richiefrich: thx
[02:22] <unplugd> ardcholille: thanks, read it. Using ubuntu server w/lamp. How to configure the system to handle .php3 extention?
[02:22] <c0nfidencal> it is gDesklets ;P
[02:22] <c0nfidencal> i remember
[02:22] <richiefrich> c0nfidencal np man
[02:23] <BlueEagle> lukus001: a) did you change the mountpoint in your fstab from /media/winxxp? b) have you got a directory called /media/winxp?
[02:23] <xmoogle> hiya
[02:23] <c0nfidencal> hey
[02:23] <drpc> thoreauputi can u send me sources.list
[02:23] <lhds> i need a decent tv application other than tvtime and xawtv any suggestions _
[02:23] <BlueEagle> forngren: Well since you apperantly didn't mount it on /mnt/ as I suggested you will ofcourse need to change such directories to where your filesystem is mounted. :)
[02:23] <lukus001> BlueEagle : yes i can see it but i cant access it due to permission set only for admin and not my user
[02:23] <thoreauputic> drpc: mine would not help you - they are an australian mirror
[02:23] <BlueEagle> forngren: There was a reason why I suggested /mnt/ :)
[02:24] <BlueEagle> lukus001: that didn't answer my questions.
[02:24] <drpc> ok man
[02:24] <xmoogle> i was just wondering a couple things..you know the ubuntu 6.06 free cds? does it still come in a set of a livecd and an installer? and if there's a livecd still, does it come with xchat?
[02:24] <forngren> BlueEagle: damn it, I'm noobisch XP
[02:24] <unfun> !rpm
[02:24] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[02:24] <drpc> thanks for u help
[02:24] <thoreauputic> drpc: wait a few minutes - I'll see what I can do
[02:24] <richiefrich> c0nfidencal glad i could help
[02:24] <c0nfidencal> :)
[02:24] <c0nfidencal> k, askin again:P i gonna get back to live cd and check if all works, if so... gonna install new version of ubuntu ;) btw. how come sudo apt-get install xchat doesnt work? repos... maybe someone can share their repos, which has that xchat? :p
[02:24] <drpc> ok
[02:24] <lukus001> BlueEagle i have media/windows/   and there is a directory call that
[02:24] <BlueEagle> forngren: ok. so cp /dev/sda* /path/to/dev
[02:24] <chris559> BlueEagle: i have partition mounted with proc and dev bound to it. If i do a grub install from here, by default it will re-write the MBR, which is not what i want
[02:24] <BlueEagle> forngren: with a sudo in front.
[02:25] <unfun> Do I have to use an anti virus program when I use ubuntu?
[02:25] <xmoogle> unlikely unfun
[02:25] <BlueEagle> lukus001: sudo umount /dev/DEVICENODE && sudo mount /media/windows
[02:25] <BlueEagle> lukus001: then your /media/windows should be accessible to your user
[02:25] <xmoogle> there's not really linux viruses beyond proof of concept ones that seem to ask your permission to infect things..
[02:25] <forngren> BlueEagle: /path/to/dev?
[02:25] <BlueEagle> chris559: have you chroot-ed into the filesystem.
[02:25] <BlueEagle> ?
[02:26] <unfun> But is there malware and such like that?
[02:26] <BlueEagle> forngren: yes. You will need to susbstitute that to the dev directory on the mounted linux file system.
[02:26] <chris559> BlueEagle: i knew i forgot something
[02:26] <forngren> ok
[02:26] <lukus001> BlueEagle, Thanks it all works now <3
[02:26] <BlueEagle> forngren: since you didn't mount on /mnt/ I'll use /path/to/ instead.
[02:26] <xmoogle> unfun, it's very difficult for malware to work on linux because of the security model, ie, you don't run as root/admin so things can't automatically install n go overwriting system files. there *are* the occasional rootkits around, but not really
[02:26] <BlueEagle> chris559: and don't run grub-install but just grub
[02:27] <xmoogle> there's free software to scan for rootkits too
[02:27] <xmoogle> if you're paranoid
[02:27] <ardchoille> unfun: Did you install libapache2-mod-php5 and php5-mysql ?
[02:27] <unfun> haha
[02:27] <unfun> thanks
[02:27] <unfun> :)
[02:27] <AnAmiC> hey there, one question: what IM Client for linux is most similar to miranda?
[02:27] <lhds> whats root kits_
[02:27] <BlueEagle> chris559: then root(hdX,Y) and setup(hdX,Y) where X and Y represents the disk number and parititon number of your root filesystem (assuming you haven't got a separate /boot parition)
[02:27] <Gargoyle> miranda...
[02:27] <c0nfidencal> anyone? ;o
[02:28] <BlueEagle> chris559: remember that GRUB counts from 0
[02:28] <Gargoyle> is there any?  Miranda is so powerful.
[02:28] <ardchoille> unplugd: The link ubotu sent you tells yo how to install php and how to troubleshoot it
[02:28] <BlueEagle> chris559: so /dev/hdb4 will be (hd1,3)
[02:28] <xmoogle> lhds, a set of binaries, usually installed via some software exploit, that allow a remote user (preferably root) access to your system
[02:28] <AnAmiC> miranda does not work under linux does it?
[02:28] <BlueEagle> forngren: now where were we?
[02:28] <xmoogle> AnAmiC, no
[02:28] <oskude> c0nfidencal: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=xchat&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[02:28] <AnAmiC> too bad ^^
[02:28] <trygg> animal_: kopote is pretty close.
[02:28] <BlueEagle> forngren: ahh did you get the sd* device nodes copied yet?
[02:28] <xmoogle> AnAmiC, apparently it might under wine though
[02:28] <trygg> whops, AnAmiC
[02:28] <c0nfidencal> o :) oskude: thx
[02:29] <unplugd> Can sombody help? I'm using ubuntu server w/lamp. How to configure the system to handle .php3 extention?
[02:29] <xmoogle> AnAmiC, some people've apparently got it running that way
[02:29] <brush01uk> dccdcc
[02:29] <lhds> what scanner y suggest_
[02:29] <chris559> BlueEagle: the partition i'm using is hda4, so yeh thatnks. except trouble is my chroot isn't working
[02:29] <ardchoille> unplugd: The link ubotu sent you tells you how to fix that
[02:29] <AnAmiC> well wine is something I need to setup anyway, so why not now ^^
[02:29] <BlueEagle> chris559: sudo chroot /path/to/rootfs/ /bin/bash
[02:29] <AnAmiC> k, thx!
[02:29] <stray77> unplugd, vi /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[02:29] <stray77> and change DirectoryIndex to
[02:30] <raveneye> xmoogle edit your /etc/apt/sources.list comment everything out exept the cd line then sudo apt-get update and start synaptic
[02:30] <xmoogle> lhds, i rarely bother with root kit scanners, you could have a search through debian packages or the ubuntu repositories for software that mentions "rootkits" or "root kits" in the description?
[02:30] <stray77> [...] DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.cgi index.php index.php3 index.pl index.xhtml[...]
[02:30] <stray77> minus the [...]  of course
[02:30] <BlueEagle> chris559: so then you'd use root(hd0,3) and setup(hd0,3)
[02:30] <xmoogle> raveneye, why would i want to do that? i'm not on ubuntu right now, i'm just wanting to know what software comes on the livecd
[02:30] <BlueEagle> chris559: then bootmagic should be chainloading grub (in theory atleast)
[02:30] <thoreauputic> drpc:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20761
[02:31] <xmoogle> well specifically i want to know if it comes with xchat and an IM client that supports msn :)
[02:31] <xmoogle> i know there should be firefox n openoffice already
[02:31] <BlueEagle> xmoogle: firefox, thunderbird, openoffice, irc clients, msn clients, icq clients, a whole bunch of servers, gnome is the windowmanager on it. What else do you want to know?
[02:31] <stray77> chris559, another option is to use windows boot and a proggy called bootpart
[02:31] <BlueEagle> xmoogle: ofcourse there is a whole array of mediaplayers provided.
[02:31] <drpc> thoreauputic thanks man
[02:32] <stray77> but stick with grub if you can get it workin
[02:32] <thoreauputic> drpc: that list should work OK
[02:32] <BlueEagle> xmoogle: and if it isn't on the live cd it's probably in the repos. :)
[02:32] <xmoogle> BlueEagle, thank you :) i was getting a friend with a screwed windows installation to order some discs so she has a workable backup system, wanted to make sure she'd be properly equipped :)
[02:32] <drpc> ok
[02:32] <drpc> :)
[02:32] <drpc> i try and i will back if not work
[02:32] <xmoogle> BlueEagle, this friend is very non-geeky, i don't know if i'll be able to get her to do an actual harddrive install
[02:32] <BlueEagle> forngren: you still here?
[02:32] <thoreauputic> drpc: don't foget to run apdate
[02:32] <drpc> thnks for u help
[02:32] <drpc> ok
[02:32] <chris559> stray77: thanks but that sound like a whole lot more learning
[02:32] <thoreauputic> drpc: I mean update
[02:32] <raveneye> xmoogle: I don't know if it comes with xchat but gaim is on the livecd ant that supports both irc and msn (spit).
[02:33] <CarinArr> anyone know anything about ldap?
[02:33] <BlueEagle> xmoogle: Does she use a webcam on a regular basis? If so you'll not win her over as webcam support in linux is still quite miserable. :/
[02:33] <unfun> !rpm
[02:33] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[02:33] <BlueEagle> xmoogle: ofcourse it depends somewhat on the webcam in question...
[02:33] <thoreauputic> drpc: ah - that list is for dapper, not 5.10
[02:33] <BlueEagle> xmoogle: not sure if any msn clients support webcams as of yet.
[02:34] <thoreauputic> drpc: if you have 5.10 you need to change all "dapper" to "breezy"
[02:34] <xmoogle> BlueEagle, true, and amsn supports webcams i think..certainly supports recieving them anyway
[02:34] <thoreauputic> drpc: did you read that?
[02:34] <tuxtux> reboot
[02:34] <raveneye> kopete seems to support webcam but then i'd install Kubuntu instead.
[02:34] <BlueEagle> xmoogle: :)
[02:34] <\sh> moins
[02:35] <\sh> does anyone has a HP DL360 G4P server with Compaq SmartArray P600 SAS Controller ?
[02:35] <BlueEagle> working at home is the best. :)
[02:35] <xmoogle> BlueEagle, lucky you, i have to smoke outside here :)
[02:36] <xmoogle> though i don't work right now, so i'm at home at least..lol
[02:36] <stray77> chris559, check this out ->http://technoraj.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/restoring-grub-in-drapper-drake-ubuntu-606/
[02:36] <xmoogle> hehe
[02:36] <raveneye> the smoke and coffee/tea bit is verry tempting tho.
[02:36] <BlueEagle> raveneye: purring is no prerequisite for me scratching someone behind their ear. :p
[02:36] <chris449> stray77: thanks
[02:36] <xmoogle> i'm actually about to switch to ubuntu
[02:37] <xmoogle> i've got annoyed with some of freebsd's quirks
[02:37] <BlueEagle> stray77: remember that he doesn't want grub on the MBR
[02:37] <raveneye> lol BlueEagle i would not sugest scratching behind my ear if i am not purring. Things might get ugly verry fast. >:)
[02:37] <xmoogle> so since that made me want to go back to some form of linux anyway, and i like most distros derived from debian...thought i'd give ubuntu a try :)
[02:37] <unfun> Wich linux distrubution is the best one?
[02:37] <chris449> BlueEagle: something very odd happened
[02:37] <oskude> unfun: ubuntu, of course!
[02:37] <thoreauputic> unfun: for what?
[02:37] <xmoogle> unfun, whichever you think is for the purposes you want
[02:37] <ardchoille> unfun: The only person who can answer that is you.
[02:37] <Skaag> I have a problem with my Ubuntu's "Sound" preferences panel, I select my Altec Lansing USB Speakers, in the drop-down, I close the panel, open it, and it's on the Intel ICH6 sound card again...! I don't want to disable the Intel in the Bios just to use the USB speakers. Is there a workaround?
[02:38] <dsas> \sh: Someone by the name of ScislaC was in here a couple of days ago with a SAS raid, no idea what kind though.
[02:38] <chris449> BlueEagle: i selected the linux option in bootmagic, and then it literally ran grub
[02:38] <inv_Arp> unfun: distrowatch.com
[02:38] <BlueEagle> chris449: it will.
[02:38] <xmoogle> aren't we giving philosophical sounding answers?
[02:38] <BlueEagle> chris449: now if you don't wan the bootmenu (which you do) you can set the timeout to 0 in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:38] <\sh> dsas: hmmm...had he problems with it and grub?
[02:39] <chris449> BlueEagle: ah, and it will only run ubuntu then? and i use bootmagic to run the rest?
[02:39] <doublehp> I have got "*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption " problem with nearly all applications; how can I solve this in a generic way ?
[02:39] <BlueEagle> chris449: that is correct. You can also remove the windowsXP option from menu.lst
[02:39] <xmoogle> ooh, um, i assume that if my friend's computer is hooked up to a router (which provides net access n presumably does the normal dhcp thing), booting ubuntu'll set her up for net access all automatically?
[02:39] <dsas> \sh: He was asking about a kernel panic
[02:39] <rkd> xmoogle: it should do, yeah
[02:39] <thoreauputic> xmoogle: should do , yes
[02:40] <BlueEagle> chris449: I do recomend having the boot menu so you can run different kernels and safemode if you once get a kernel that doesn't work properly.
[02:40] <xmoogle> yay
[02:40] <St0n3-C0l> well....is there any KEY assigned to taking a screenshot on mplayer ?
[02:40] <xmoogle> any sensible OS does... does windows do that yet?
[02:40] <\sh> dsas: oh different problem :)
[02:40] <BlueEagle> xmoogle: it will provided that her network card is automatically detected. (most are)
[02:40] <xmoogle> BlueEagle, i was working under the assumption of ethernet cards usually working fine :)
[02:40] <BlueEagle> xmoogle: windows doesn't provide a livecd afaik. :p
[02:40] <thoreauputic> xmoogle: it does - but I'm not sure if that needs config on windows
[02:40] <chris449> BlueEagle: yeh i might just leave it as is, i can't fit anything else on this harddrive anyway
[02:41] <doublehp> St0n3-C0l: no way, mplayer default uses Xv; if you want to try screenshots, try using option '-vo x11'
[02:41] <xmoogle> BlueEagle, you can make them though! apparently
[02:41] <dsas> \sh: ok, good luck with yours :)
[02:41] <chris449> BlueEagle: thanks for ur help i'm off to bed
[02:41] <BlueEagle> xmoogle: and assumptions are the root of most relationship breakups.
[02:41] <St0n3-C0l> doublehp: and with what key I'll be able to take screenshots ?
[02:41] <doublehp> console tools like "scrot"
[02:42] <raveneye> No xmoogle they are not it are the reactions on the assumptions.
[02:42] <thoreauputic> BlueEagle: especially assumptions about assumptions ;)
[02:42] <xmoogle> BlueEagle, my computer won't leave me, it wuvs me! hehe actually built by my ex for my 21st birthday..
[02:42] <ad> instead of dd if i cloned my disk to move it to a new one - what would happen?
[02:42] <ardchoille> St0n3-C0l: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223758
[02:42] <BlueEagle> xmoogle: that's because your boyfriend assumes more than your puter does. :p Should we take this to #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps? :p
[02:43] <St0n3-C0l> thankx alot
[02:43] <Skaag> I have a problem with my Ubuntu's "Sound" preferences panel, I select my Altec Lansing USB Speakers, in the drop-down, I close the panel, open it, and it's on the Intel ICH6 sound card again...! I don't want to disable the Intel in the Bios just to use the USB speakers. Is there a workaround?
[02:43] <raveneye> tea ready smoke built. let the purring commence.
[02:43] <ad> anyone moved installation to a new disk using drive cloning (BootIT NG) ?
[02:44] <ardchoille> ad: I use partimage for that, it works well.
[02:44] <ardchoille> !info partimage
[02:44] <ubotu> partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional.  You roll a smoke/cigarette. And let's take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:44] <murif> hey, what are the hotplug subsystems?
[02:45] <ardchoille> ad: None. But you might want to read the docs for it as there are diff options
[02:45] <ad> ard: so in theory if i copied my whole installation bitperfect to a new drive it would work?
[02:46] <ardchoille> ad: I have 11 machines and I install Ubuntu on one, use partimage to make a clone of the partitions, take the clone to other pc's and use partimage to copy them over. Works great.
[02:47] <ad> ard: amazing, i thought there would be device conflicts etc?
[02:47] <ardchoille> ad: You may need to tweak things for hardware on the new boxes, but it should work, yes
[02:47] <doublehp> ardchoille: take care with hostnames, and SSH server keys
[02:47] <BlueEagle> ad: udev is your friend.
[02:47] <apollo13> hi, i have got a little question: which architecture to choose if i want install the ubuntu server edition on an intel pentium 64 bit system, amd64 or am i mistaken?
[02:47] <ad> !udev
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <ad> blueEagle: udev?
[02:49] <AlexC_> Hey,
[02:49] <BlueEagle> ad: It is the program that handles your devices.
[02:49] <AlexC_> Are the forums down for ubuntu?
[02:49] <BlueEagle> ad: well device nodes.
[02:49] <BlueEagle> ad: the kernel is the one handling the devices.
[02:49] <pseudomorph> hi, i have a problem where my /home partition is reporting as full, when i check the properties of the drive in nautilus it shows that 1000+ files take up 87Mb or so and only a few 100k of space left. is it possible the rest of the space is taken in hidden files/folders that I can't see? any help appriciated.
[02:50] <BlueEagle> ad: However in the earlier days (with static /dev directory) device "conflicts" (read: missing nodes) were more common.
[02:50] <ad> blue: gotcha, reading the faq, cheers
[02:50] <c0nfidencal> :)
[02:50] <raveneye> pseudomorph try df -h
[02:50] <c0nfidencal> where was that xorg.conf file?
[02:50] <BlueEagle> pseudomorph: and how big is your /home partition?
[02:51] <ardchoille> c0nfidencal: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:51] <BlueEagle> pseudomorph: and mount (to check that your /home partition is mounted in the right place)
[02:51] <pseudomorph> raveneye: shows up 100% full, problem is i cant find what is using the space
[02:51] <doublehp> I have got "*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption " problem with nearly all applications; how can I solve this in a generic way ?
[02:51] <raveneye> ok cd to /home/yourname and run du -h its not entirely reliable but it should give you some clues as to where the problem resides
[02:52] <raveneye> ow sorry that last one was for pseudomorph
[02:52] <neutrinomass> doublehp: Ouch.... is this with all apps ?
[02:52] <doublehp> neutrinomass: several
[02:53] <neutrinomass> doublehp: Dapper by upgrade ?
[02:53] <doublehp> neutrinomass: stil breezy (?)
[02:53] <drpc> thoreauputic thanks man alot alot alot it install now
[02:53] <doublehp> but I uncommented some lines in sources
[02:53] <drpc> :)
[02:53] <neutrinomass> doublehp: Um... not sure what could be wrong :-/ That's usually a coding error ...
[02:54] <neutrinomass> doublehp: I would try "sudo aptitude reinstall glibc" but I'm not sure it will help ... is it up to date ?
[02:54] <doublehp> neutrinomass: how the hell upgrade to a not freezing glibc ? I have had this bug on many distros ... and generic fix is: upgrade glibc !
[02:54] <pseudomorph> raveneye: i was in /home when i ran it first time, shows dev/hada3 (mounted as /home) is 100% is there any way of getting a listing of all files in a tree under a directory?
[02:54] <ad> blueeagle: so udev is standard in dapper and it will do most of the work for me?
[02:54] <doublehp> neutrinomass: updated yesterday and this morning
[02:55] <raveneye> pseudomorph it should default show you everything. hmmmm hang on a min.
[02:55] <rkd> pseudomorph: du -h --max-depth=1 ~
[02:55] <BlueEagle> ad: udev will handle the device nodes. You will still need to make sure that the kernel has got drivers for all your devices. (by default it has got support for nearly everything)
[02:55] <rkd> pseudomorph: that's du, not df
[02:56] <neutrinomass> doublehp: I've never had this problem :-/ It could be a gcc bug as well, I'm not sure....
[02:56] <ad> BlueEagle: thanx, still used to windows; it's great when things just work isn't it? :-)
[02:56] <doublehp> neutrinomass: actually Firefox 1.5 (after I upgraded FF because original was already buggy )
[02:56] <nraider> i wonder if someone can help me with a question i have about Eye Of Gnome
[02:56] <pseudomorph> rkd cheers, strange thing is the largest file it shows up is about 9.5Mb
[02:56] <freakabcd> hi all
[02:57] <erUSUL> !anybody > nraider
[02:57] <freakabcd> where can i download the dapper livecd ?
[02:57] <freakabcd> i can;t seem to find a list of mirrors carrying the livecd iso
[02:57] <AlexC_> Are the forums down for ubuntu?
[02:57] <neutrinomass> doublehp: Well, try http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash to get a backtrace of a program that crashes
[02:57] <erUSUL> freakabcd: www.ubuntu.com >> download
[02:57] <ardchoille> AlexC_: Apparently
[02:57] <erUSUL> freakabcd: it is labeled desktop cd
[02:57] <BlueEagle> ad: in most cases ubuntu "will just work"(tm), but sometimes with some hardware you'll just need to fiddle. Also Windows makes some assumptions and do rely on "generic" drivers to "just work". (ie. the fact that it's working doesn't mean that it's working as it's supposed to)
[02:58] <rkd> pseudomorph: odd
[02:58] <freakabcd> erUSUL, i meant the LiveCD
[02:58] <torpor> is there any way to get gcc 4.1 for ubuntu?
[02:58] <freakabcd> is that the same as the desktopcd ? i doubt it. thats the install disk
[02:58] <rkd> pseudomorph: du -m --max-depth=1 ~ | sort -n just to make sure
[02:58] <nraider> i can't get Eye Of Gnome to show the 2nd,3rd, etc pages of a multiple page tiff file, am i just being stupid and overlooking something?
[02:58] <torpor> i'm on dapper drake - is it possible to get the gcc-4.1 package from edgy installed?
[02:58] <gerl> hi!
[02:58] <doublehp> neutrinomass: MALLOC_CHECK_=0 didnt help
[02:58] <neutrinomass> torpor: Why ?
[02:59] <drpc> every thing is working now thanks
[02:59] <BlueEagle> ad: I know a guy who ran on generic ide drivers for a year and always complained about his puter being slow. I keept asking him if he had the latest drivers installed and he always replied yes. So once I did a reinstall for him and used the right IDE drivers and suddenly he had DMA working on his disks and teh puter just flew. :)
[02:59] <rkd> pseudomorph: du -m --max-depth=2 /home | sort -n as well
[02:59] <Skaag> I heard a team was assembled to answer questions about ubuntu?
[02:59] <torpor> neutrinomass, coz i'm trying to build a cross-compiler for my ARM board, and it requires gcc > 4.0 to build glibc ..
[02:59] <Skaag> how do I post questions for the new team?
[02:59] <tuxtux> ciao
[02:59] <BlueEagle> ..and back to -offtopic I go. :/
[02:59] <jonass> xgl is not working properly (no window toolbar) with kernel 2.6.15-26, but with -23 it is
[02:59] <pseudomorph> rkd i did manage to acciently fill /home with a misdirected torrent however i moved the file to a different partition, could this be causing and issue, on a side note in gnome system administration disks will no longer load either...
[02:59] <neutrinomass> doublehp: It could be a bug in some other library, not glibc (I don't really think it is anyway)- the backtrace may help to pinpoint the library
[02:59] <torpor> so how about it, anyone know where i can get a gcc-4.1 package for dapper?
[03:00] <BlueEagle> jonass: #ubuntu-xgl please
[03:00] <gerl> my ubuntu 6.06 give me an error enabling dma. The chipset is VIA (VT82xxx). What can I do?
[03:00] <jonass> BlueEagle: thx
[03:00] <M_Fatih> hi there, i have a problem with my mime-type database. when i try to "open with other application" for my php files, i'm selecting my different application from list (or input) gnome says "Could not add application to the application database" and i can't run my .php files from nautilus launcher mechanism. i want to change my default application for .php files. it runs with bluefish. i want to change it to quanta plus. i want to run my php files with quan
[03:00] <M_Fatih> ta when i'm doubleclicking.. what this error, how can i fix this? (sorry my english. bad language :( )
[03:00] <BlueEagle> jonass: np. :)
[03:00] <rkd> pseudomorph: very odd
[03:01] <jonass> how can i remove unused packages? i installed amaroK (kde libs were required), but after uninstalled amaroK the kde libs are still there
[03:01] <jatt> jonass: debfoster
[03:01] <raveneye> pseudomorph are you by any chance using gtk-gnutella?
[03:01] <jatt> jonass: and deborphan
[03:01] <pseudomorph> rkd it's got me... i'm still learning the ins and outs of the debian/ubuntu file system so it's wholely possivle i've done something stupid
[03:02] <jatt> jonass: or aptitude
[03:02] <pseudomorph> raveneye nup, just using azureus atm
[03:02] <doublehp> neutrinomass: MALLOC_CHECK_=0 DOES help (mistake was that I forgot the trailing '_'  )
[03:05] <freakabcd> whats the difference between 6.06 LTS and 6.06.1 LTS ?
[03:05] <anonymeeee> I need to edit my smb.conf file and it keeps telling me not authorized
[03:05] <anonymeeee> sudo -e smb.conf   right?
[03:06] <jumper> hi, i use ubntu dapper drake and i have a problem with kino 0.8.0. when i import a video in DV AVI TYPE 1/2 form my minidv cam, kino crash with this error: "KIno experienced segmentation fault, Dumping stack from the offending thread" Help me
[03:06] <freakabcd> some important bugfixes warranted a minor release? cos the mirror i'm going to get it from has only 6.06 :(
[03:06] <[b] urk> freakabcd, not much difference, if you do regular updates on a 6.06 you'll have a 6.06.1
[03:06] <oskude> anonymeeee: more like: sudo nano smb.conf
[03:06] <anonymeeee> nano?  that's a new one
[03:06] <pseudomorph> oh well, might spend some of tomorrow evening reformatting, was feeling the need of removing that useless windows partition anyway
[03:06] <[b] urk> freakabcd, run:  lsb_release -a
[03:06] <freakabcd> [b] urk, ok. because i wanted to try it on my friend's laptop where _breezy_ live cd fails to load
[03:07] <oskude> anonymeeee: then use a text editor to your liking...
[03:07] <_Indy_> Hello. I need a good, X, source editor other than Gedit.
[03:07] <jatt> _Indy_: emacs
[03:07] <Rookie-> Vim
[03:07] <CheetahMk2> nano
[03:07] <anonymeeee> Thank you
[03:07] <CheetahMk2> oh wait, nano isn't x
[03:07] <due> kate! :D
[03:07] <anonymeeee> I guess it defaults to pico?
[03:07] <Rookie-> vim is the best editor you can find ...
[03:07] <_Indy_> Rookie-:  a good, X, source editor
[03:08] <[b] urk> emacs
[03:08] <oskude> _Indy_: i like kate atm, even thou their "tabs" suck (and is a plugin :/)
[03:08] <anonymeeee> I'm hearing more about emacs
[03:08] <CheetahMk2> It goes down to pico, but then has an int overflow back to emacs
[03:08] <_Indy_> CheetahMk2:  a good, X, source editor
[03:08] <_Indy_> oskude: ok
[03:08] <pseudomorph> rkd, raveneye, thanks for your help
[03:08] <oskude> _Indy_: i changed from bluefish...
[03:08] <anonymeeee> you can develop macros for emacs?
[03:09] <jatt> anonymeeee: sure
[03:09] <_Indy_> jatt: I don't want to install xemacs. It is a vary memory-requiring package.
[03:09] <CheetahMk2> you can surf the net in emacs
[03:09] <_Indy_> * very
[03:09] <_Indy_> Does anyone have Komodo?
[03:09] <CheetahMk2> "EMACs is a perfectly fine operating system, all that it lacks is a decent text editor"
[03:09] <jatt> anonymeeee: there's an entry in the emacs manual for that
[03:10] <jatt> _Indy_: xemacs is different than emacs
[03:10] <_Indy_> I know.
[03:10] <_Indy_> emacs is not X
[03:10] <_Indy_> And I want an X source editor.
[03:10] <pseudomorph> rkd is it possible it's hiding in the root .Trash??
[03:10] <jatt> _Indy_: the X in XEmacs has nothing to do with the X Window System
[03:10] <_Indy_> is emacs console or X ?
[03:10] <jatt> _Indy_: emacs and xemacs are different programs. And emacs runs on the X Windows System
[03:10] <jatt> _Indy_: both
[03:11] <_Indy_> ok
[03:11] <_Indy_> how do I start emacs?
[03:11] <CarinArr> ;)
[03:11] <_Indy_> emacs is preinstalled in my system
[03:11] <jatt> _Indy_: typing emacs
[03:11] <CarinArr> you type "emacs" in console..
[03:11] <_Indy_> emacs is not preinstalled in my system :P
[03:11] <rixxon> does the livecd use grub?
[03:12] <rixxon> _Indy_, apt-cache search emacs
[03:12] <_Indy_> sudo apt-get install emacs
[03:12] <_Indy_> I executed the command above.
[03:13] <pseudomorph> whoot! there it was.
[03:13] <rixxon> there are many different emacs versions in the repos
[03:13] <jatt> _Indy_: AFAIK the package is called emacs21
[03:13] <_Indy_> Has anyone ever tried Komodo?
[03:13] <_Indy_> jatt: ok
[03:13] <_Indy_> The following extra packages will be installed:
[03:13] <_Indy_>   emacs21 emacs21-bin-common emacs21-common emacsen-common xaw3dg
[03:13] <jatt> _Indy_: yes that's ok
[03:13] <_Indy_> ok
[03:14] <naga44> how can i install ubuntu without gnome or kde?
[03:14] <rixxon> does livecd use grub?
[03:14] <_Indy_> naga44: install ubuntu, and remove Gnome
[03:14] <naga44> bah..
[03:14] <oskude> naga44: install xubuntu or server...
[03:15] <naga44> mabye xubuntu and remove xfce?
[03:15] <_Indy_> yes, do that
[03:16] <raveneye> naga: you could even download the alternate install iso and preform a minimal install (just textmode)
[03:17] <naga44> raveneye...would that come with ndiswrapper?
[03:17] <epla> ubot-it: mp3
[03:18] <raveneye> naga: dunno.
[03:19] <tRSS> sorry if this a n00b question, but I would like to compile (k)ubuntu on my pocket pc phone. is it possible?
[03:19] <naga44> so in the directory of ubuntu downloads its the "alternate" one?
[03:19] <raveneye> aye naga that is the one.
[03:20] <jatt> tRSS: I doubt it. Which are the hardware specifications of your "pocket pc phone"?
[03:20] <tRSS> i can see it has intel pxa270 processor
[03:20] <tRSS> 2GB SD Card
[03:21] <picasso> I just tried to upgrade 5.10 -> 6.06 w/ update-manager, and i get "Could not calculate the upgrade"
[03:21] <neutrinomass> doublehp: Sorry - what is that MALLOC_CHECK ?
[03:21] <naga44> what is the alternate cd?
[03:21] <picasso> A unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrazde. Please report this as a bug.
[03:22] <picasso> does anyone know what could cause this?
[03:22] <Toran> is there a tool like gspot for linux?
[03:22] <jatt> tRSS: ubuntu doesn't support such processor so I doubt it will always compile ubuntu source packages.
[03:23] <Toran> gspot, as in the tool to display info about video files
[03:23] <raveneye> picasso did you try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:23] <jatt> tRSS: *maybe* gcc (and the toolchain) can be configured to crosscompile to that processor, so you can compile your packages on your pc and upload them to your pc phone
[03:23] <tRSS> hmm. may be i can start by compiling the kernel itself on this processor. i just need a starting point.
[03:23] <picasso> hm
[03:23] <selinuxium_> hi all, how do i copy a file to a Windows machine via the command line?
[03:24] <due> selinuxium_: scp
[03:24] <picasso> raveneye: im up-to-date except for kernel
[03:24] <picasso> (bc i didnt want to recompile my wireless stuff)
[03:24] <selinuxium_> due: that wil only work if ssh is running on the windows server. Is there not a sambe way?
[03:24] <picasso> but sure, i'll do this first.
[03:24] <selinuxium_> s/sambe/samba
[03:25] <doublehp> neutrinomass: Gentoo's solution against this bug :)
[03:25] <picasso> raveneye: do i need to *boot* the new kernel before upgrade? hopefully not?
[03:26] <gotmilk> the wierdest thing, ive just installed breezy first part of my screen is ok, about upto where the word thing starts in this sentence but then the rest is blurry and like scrolling
[03:26] <raveneye> picasso: eh did you tell apt where to find the dapper repositories? are you up to date on 5.10 or 6.06?
[03:26] <picasso> 5.10
[03:26] <picasso> was using the GUI button to upgrade to 6.06
[03:26] <picasso> but it restored me previous state when it failed
[03:27] <anonymeeee>  how do I get root access in konsole?
[03:27] <ardchoille> anonymeeee: sudo
[03:27] <siriusly> su or sudo then password
[03:27] <ardchoille> anonymeeee: sudo <command>, it will ask for a password, use your suer password
[03:28] <anonymeeee> sudo gives me a bunch of parameters that I don't recognize
[03:28] <neutrinomass> doublehp: What uses that variable? Heh, I've never heard of it before (and i've used gentoo )
[03:28] <raveneye> ok picasso what you can do is edit your sources.list in /etc/apt/ and point everything to dapper repositories then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade... I must say i never tried that on an ubuntu system but debian works that way so i see no reason why it should fail in ubuntu.
[03:28] <M_Fatih> hi there, i have a problem with my mime-type database. when i try to "open with other application" for my php files, i'm selecting my different application from list (or input) gnome says "Could not add application to the application database" and i can't run my .php files from nautilus launcher mechanism. i want to change my default application for .php files. it runs with bluefish. i want to change it to quanta plus. i want to run my php files with quan
[03:28] <M_Fatih> ta when i'm doubleclicking.. what this error, how can i fix this? (sorry my english. bad language :( )
[03:29] <XeQtoR> does Ubuntu has a divx codec build in?
[03:29] <doublehp> neutrinomass: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81255 :) all Skype users known this; for FireFox on ubuntu, I have binded the desktop icon to a personal script doing: export MALLOC_CHECK_=0 ; firefox $1
[03:29] <anonymeeee> how do I restart samba?
[03:29] <rcklmk> @XeQtoR nope
[03:29] <jrib> !divx > XeQtoR
[03:30] <anonymeeee> trying to get my ubuntu box to act as a print server
[03:30] <neutrinomass> doublehp: ty :) I'll read up on it
[03:30] <jungsonn> hi all
[03:30] <doublehp> neutrinomass: I am now looking for a way to declare this variable for the whole machine, so that all users can inherit this fix, and also for all applications (OOo also bugs); which /etc/??? would help ?
[03:30] <richiefrich> anonymeeee --> /etc/init.d/samba restart ?
[03:30] <anonymeeee> damn sticky business
[03:30] <raveneye> anonymeeee: to get a root terminal you use sudo -i. if you want to use su you first need to sudo passwd root
[03:31] <dverzolla> anyone knows about fetchmail? I'm getting the messages, but, where the program is sending my messages?
[03:31] <bjames> does anyone know of a tutorial online that would tell me how to set up portaudio with kdevelop?
[03:31] <anonymeeee> thank you raveneye!
[03:31] <XeQtoR> is it possible for a linux newb to add a divx codec to ubuntu?
[03:31] <jungsonn> so i have a root question: im trying to login as root into gnome, but to no avail. I checked the tab security under startup, en made sure root is allowed, but i cannot login. anyone an idea? i really need root.
[03:31] <ardchoille> raveneye: Please don't tell people how to enable the root account. Ot os not supported config and can cause problems later.
[03:31] <richiefrich> dverzolla u need something like procmail
[03:31] <richiefrich> dverzolla to sort the mail
[03:31] <richiefrich> dverzolla   i use getmail..
[03:32] <dverzolla> richiefrich, getmail? they work with imap?
[03:32] <richiefrich> yes
[03:32] <ardchoille> !root > jungsonn
[03:32] <neutrinomass> doublehp: I think it's /etc/environment
[03:32] <raveneye> ardchoille: i havent had any problems with activating my root account so far...
[03:32] <murif> what are the hotplug subsystems?
[03:32] <dverzolla> richiefrich, I will see
[03:32] <ardchoille> !worksforme > raveneye
[03:32] <trygg> What do i type to reload my fstab?
[03:32] <bjames> does anyone here use portaudio???
[03:33] <richiefrich> i have  postfix.. procmail. getmail. courier-imap. freepopsd. authdaemond.
[03:33] <richiefrich> dverzolla ^
[03:33] <dverzolla> richiefrich, lol
[03:33] <richiefrich> dverzolla u need them all
[03:33] <richiefrich> dverzolla  for a smtp server
[03:34] <anonymeeee> too late
[03:34] <hackdown> hi guys!!
[03:37] <jumper> hi, i use ubntu dapper drake and i have a problem with kino 0.8.0. when i import a video in DV AVI TYPE 1/2 from my minidv cam, kino crash with this error: "KIno experienced segmentation fault, Dumping stack from the offending thread" Help me
[03:38] <picasso> raveneye: upgraded kernel so i'm 100% up-to-date on 5.10, but i still get the "Could not calculate the upgrade" error
[03:38] <doublehp> neutrinomass: echo "MALLOC_CHECK_=0" >>/etc/environment ; reboot; enjoy :)
[03:39] <chungaroo> can someone help me install my f5d7011 belkin wireless card? all of the guides i've tried haven't worked for me
[03:41] <ardchoille> Can someone explain what #ubuntu-unregged is? I join #ubuntu but my irssi says #ubuntu-unregged. Is this an overflow channel?
[03:41] <jungsonn> well this isn't what i need...
[03:41] <raveneye> hmmm picasso then i dont have any usefull ideas. i gonna look if i can find something.
[03:41] <ardchoille> jungsonn: What's up?
[03:41] <jungsonn> i did all things, but i cannot login in graphicly as root...
[03:42] <picasso> anyone know why i would get "Could not calculate the upgrade" when going from 5.10 to 6.06 (w/ the upgrade GUI tool)
[03:42] <ardchoille> jungsonn: You can't. the root account is disabled and you need to use sudo for admin tasks.
[03:42] <fyrestrtr> jungsonn: you are not supposed to do that.
[03:42] <fyrestrtr> ardchoille: yes.
[03:42] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: Ah, ok, thanks
[03:42] <crazy_penguin> Good afternoon all!:)
[03:42] <zanpakuto> anyone used xen with dual lan cards? how do I enable both on the domU?
[03:42] <jungsonn> well i need to go into a few firefox files, and i dont have acces to them
[03:43] <ardchoille> jungsonn: gksudo nautilus ?
[03:43] <jungsonn> is that with root privelidges>?
[03:43] <ardchoille> yes, so be careful with it :)
[03:44] <jungsonn> ahhh nice! :)
[03:44] <jungsonn> thank you!
[03:44] <ardchoille> jungsonn: I have been using Ubuntu since hoary and have never needed to login as root
[03:44] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[03:44] <ardchoille> jungsonn: use sudo for command line apps and use gksudo for gui apps.
[03:45] <jungsonn> ok that gksudo i was not aware of.. looks handy
[03:45] <chungaroo> can someone help me install my f5d7011 belkin wireless card? all of the guides i've tried haven't worked for me
[03:45] <Jmod> Is there a way to mount to my old Windows drive?
[03:45] <[b] urk> I'm reading this old C tutorial, is there a command in ubuntu for running lint?
[03:46] <fyrestrtr> !ntfs > Jmod
[03:46] <Jmod> yes
[03:46] <Jmod> yes it ntfs
[03:46] <ardchoille> Jmod: check your pm for a msg from ubotu
[03:47] <Jmod> great thanks
[03:48] <soheil_> how to oopen a .chm file?
[03:48] <doublehp> OOoooooooooooopen it :)
[03:48] <jrib> soheil_: xchm
[03:48] <fblade> hey does anyone know where i can get a good desktop recoder
[03:48] <Nathanael> I just downloaded Opera 9, which has the IRC client - this kicks ass
[03:48] <jrib> fblade: you can try istanbul
[03:48] <jrib> !info istanbul
[03:48] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 65 kB, installed size 344 kB
[03:48] <ardchoille> fblade: istanbul ?
[03:48] <Nathanael> Tabbed IRC sessions in your browser!
[03:49] <sergio-me> can somebody tell me what is the correct approach?
[03:49] <joltdude> Anyone know why every X app i run is complaining about authentication errors
[03:49] <fblade> cna i get that through apt-get?
[03:49] <jrib> sergio-me: approach for doing what?
[03:49] <doublehp> fblade: apt-get install stuff
[03:49] <jrib> fblade: yes, as long as you have enabled universe
[03:49] <sergio-me> to add things in sites-enabled or in sites-available?
[03:49] <doublehp> fblade: apt-cache search stuff
[03:49] <sergio-me> using apache
[03:50] <fblade> thanks guys
[03:50] <raveneye> ardchoille: lol how did you do that? some bot is dumping his zen on my crt.
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> seraphim: read /etc/apache2/README
[03:50] <ardchoille> raveneye: that's ubotu, the best bot on the planet ;)
[03:50] <ardchoille> !ubotu
[03:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:50] <joltdude> plus any of the default Xapps, say xclock complain about f Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
[03:50] <joltdude> Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
[03:50] <dapet_> I have a netgear WG111v2 wireles USB adapter, I trie to aktivate it (becuse it shows in the gui under System) but I am not able to use it. I then tried to instal driver to the netgear, but it I found out it were wtandard that I had to work... But I have 2 problems if I solve one of them i think it works.. I get netgear to do what I want, or someone have a good plan to make it work?
[03:50] <raveneye> lol that is way out of my league.. i am glad to know how to connect and join. =)
[03:51] <joltdude> ndiswrapper dapet?
[03:51] <kyefun> anyone know why buddy icons aren't showing up in gaim? for msn
[03:51] <kyefun> all i see is the status icons
[03:51] <soheil_> how to open chm files?
[03:51] <jungsonn> apt-get cache search <name> i guess....
[03:51] <ardchoille> soheil_: xchm
[03:51] <ardchoille> !info xchm
[03:51] <ubotu> xchm: Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.2.0-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 856 kB
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> soheil: sudo apt-get install xchm
[03:52] <soheil_> found no xchm in synaptic
[03:52] <doublehp> jungsonn: apt-cache search stuff
[03:52] <doublehp> jungsonn: apt-get install stuff
[03:52] <jrib> !info xchm
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> soheil_: enable universe and multiverse repositories.
[03:52] <ubotu> xchm: Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.2.0-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 856 kB
[03:52] <dapet_> joltdude, a program to make wireless card work, something about it changes some output/input stuff, but i am a noob to this soo I dont know ;)
[03:52] <jrib> !universe > soheil_
[03:52] <usemody> sersen
[03:53] <usemody> can any one help me please
[03:53] <jungsonn> ok great!
[03:53] <jungsonn> :D
[03:53] <ZennouRyuu> usemody: whats up?
[03:53] <fblade> ok how do i use ISTANBUL
[03:53] <dapet_> anyone can help?!!!
[03:53] <ardchoille> I loved Ubuntu, with the many apps it has. When I learned to enable the universe and multiverse repos, I just stood there and drooled over all the new apps, lol
[03:53] <usemody> need adobe flash and shockwave plugin
[03:53] <doublehp> ZennouRyuu: rmmod him :)
[03:53] <Rookie-> just ask the question .... if anyone can help they will answer
[03:54] <usemody> btw the adobe plugin must be 9
[03:54] <CyberMad> why ubuntu better than kubuntu (i say this because #ubuntu have bigger community than #kubuntu), AFAIK KDE is more popular than Gnome. I want install the distro in my new IBM X31 laptop :)
[03:54] <doublehp> dapet all depend if your card is supported or not :)
[03:54] <Rookie-> ubuntu includes the server version too ;)
[03:54] <Ng> CyberMad: ubuntu uses gnome, so that's the default and people tend to gravitate towards that
[03:54] <jrib> usemody: there is no flash9 or shockwave for linux, contact adobe.  However, you can use wine to run a windows version of firefox with those things
[03:54] <ZennouRyuu> usemody: as far as I know there is no shockwave plugin in linux, it uses directX apis and therefore cant really be made to run in linux
[03:55] <doublehp> ardchoille: Ubuntu is a Debian copy; other non Debian system have even more apps :)
[03:55] <ZennouRyuu> flash 9 is in the works from adobe but no beta or release date has been set
[03:55] <joltdude> Id like to see flash9 ported...
[03:55] <Ng> doublehp: like what?
[03:55] <ardchoille> CyberMad: You can install ubuntu and then install kubuntu-desktop, that will give you access to gnome *and* kde apps.
[03:55] <soheil_> aot-get install xchm didn''t work
[03:55] <Rookie-> if it dosent exist - create it
[03:55] <jrib> soheil_: do you have universe enabled?
 it is i checed
[03:55] <Rookie-> apt-get
[03:55] <doublehp> Ng: LFS, slakware, GEntoo ...
[03:55] <ZennouRyuu> joltdude: they have promised a flash 9.x for linux in the near future, most likely to coincide with the 9.5 release
[03:55] <soheil_> no
[03:56] <filip_> Hello - am used to redhat/fedora,  I am missing the command line for (mail) like mail e-mail@adresse  -s subject
[03:56] <soheil_> how to enable it?
[03:56] <jrib> soheil_: you need to enable universe to get xchm
[03:56] <joltdude> thats good, current flash seems to have a few glitches
[03:56] <usemody> stupid i know ...had hope it exist an fake api
[03:56] <jrib> soheil_: check your private messages from ubotu
[03:56] <CyberMad> ardchoille actually i'm confuse about choosing Gnome or KDE, which one better?
[03:56] <Ng> doublehp: LFS has more applications than ubuntu? haha, good one ;)
[03:56] <ardchoille> doublehp: Ubuntu is not a *copy* of debian, yes, it is based on sid, but it os much different.
[03:56] <filip_> what package do I ned ?
[03:56] <soheil_> how to enable universe?
[03:56] <ZennouRyuu> usemody: there is a directX api implementation through wine or cedega, but I am unsure if this can be made to work with shockwave
[03:56] <chungaroo> can someone please help me set up my wireless card? i installed the driver using ndiswrapper and the driver is present, but my device can't be detected
[03:56] <usemody> and why using wine i can plug my second hd and run windows vista
[03:56] <ardchoille> CyberMad: The only advice I can give you is to try them both and see which one works best for your purposes.
[03:56] <jrib> soheil_: did you receive a private message from ubotu?
[03:57] <syntaxx> hmm no cd torrent on ubuntu.. is it ok that i install old ubuntu version and just update/upgrade it thru internet?
[03:57] <doublehp> Ng: it has whatever you are brave enough to install from the web :)
[03:57] <joltdude> Libc6 dependancy hell
[03:57] <doublehp> Ng: including any app you could virtually write ...
[03:57] <Ng> doublehp: and why is that not also true of ubuntu? :)
[03:57] <soheil_> yes
[03:57] <chungaroo> can someone please help me set up my wireless card? i installed the driver using ndiswrapper and the driver is present, but my device can't be detected
[03:57] <FirstStrike> is there any way to make nautilus permanently show hidden files?
[03:57] <erUSUL> !repeat > chungaroo
[03:57] <qwerty2k> chungaroo, keep reposing wont get you an answer any quicker
[03:58] <jrib> soheil_: those are the instructions for enabling universe, just let me know if you have any problems with them
[03:58] <ZennouRyuu> usemody: wine wont run windows of any version, it simply reimplements the windows API inside of linux so that some windows applications can run in some capactiy
[03:58] <CyberMad> ardchoille i ever tried both and KDE steal my heart ;P because many apps supported by KDE, then why you choose Gnome?
[03:58] <chungaroo> i appologize
[03:58] <doublehp> Ng: because people why want ubuntu may not be brave enough to try installing things that are not Debian packaged ... (begin of troll )
[03:58] <ardchoille> FirstStrike: yes, open nautilus prefs and look in the tabs, there is a seting there to show hidden files
[03:58] <ZennouRyuu> if you actually want to run windows inside of linux you need an emulator like VMWare workstation
[03:58] <Ng> doublehp: then LFS offers those people nothing.
[03:58] <FirstStrike> oh.duh.
[03:58] <FirstStrike> thanks
[03:58] <usemody> ZennouRyuu i know what wine is ...using better cygwin...
[03:58] <ardchoille> CyberMad: gnome just works better for the way I use my computer :)
[03:58] <qwerty2k> my firefox seems to be crashing an awful lot recently
[03:59] <CyberMad> ZennouRyuu AFAIK Virtual PC use less resources than VMWare
[03:59] <usemody> remote desktop acce for alle os
[03:59] <jungsonn> i ran cxoffice, or Corssoveroffice for windows apps, works fine for me.
[03:59] <usemody> under all os
[03:59] <usemody> ;)
[03:59] <syntaxx> hmm no cd torrent on ubuntu.. is it ok that i install old ubuntu version and just update/upgrade it thru internet?
[03:59] <jungsonn> it not free though...
[03:59] <ZennouRyuu> CyberMad: ive not used it myself so I wouldnt know, I try to avoid windows apps alltogether
[03:59] <ZennouRyuu> :-D
[03:59] <KenSentMe> syntaxx: what do you mean by old?
[03:59] <fblade> is there another alternative to istanbul as it doesnt seem to be working properly
[04:00] <syntaxx> KenSentMe, i have ubuntu 5.10 cd
[04:00] <filip_> Does anybody know what I need to apt-get to get mail from shell like this mail e-mail@domain -s subject ?
[04:00] <KenSentMe> syntaxx: better to download an iso. Do you have a problem with torrents?
[04:00] <usemody> same disaster ever ...... no way tu use once of app which has half or full commercial flags
[04:01] <KenSentMe> filip_: try mutt
[04:01] <jaakkos> is ubuntuforum down?
[04:01] <CyberMad> ardchoille ok, i will ask kubuntu channel.. hehe just hoping got ideal answer :) because if i ask ubuntu (of course everyone will tell me to use ubuntu and vice versa)
[04:01] <erUSUL> filip_: mailx ?
[04:01] <ardchoille> CyberMad: True :)
[04:01] <syntaxx> KenSentMe, coz i dont wanna waste my time downloading again i just download it direct and a bad download.. i need torrent coz it has a hash checking
[04:01] <KenSentMe> jaakkos: looks like it
[04:01] <erUSUL> filip_: it should be installed by default afaik
[04:01] <usemody> ZennouRyuu thx for try to help ....
[04:01] <ZennouRyuu> usemody: No problem, sorry i had no good news :)
[04:01] <KenSentMe> syntaxx: so why don't you use the torrent then?
[04:02] <jungsonn> does annyone know a right torrent port? i tryed manuy, all NAT problems with it.
[04:02] <syntaxx> KenSentMe, torrent is for dvd only i dont have a dvd burner though
[04:02] <filip_> Ok KenSentMe and erUSUL
[04:02] <erUSUL> jungsonn: i use 6881
[04:02] <jungsonn> yeah i get errors on that one
[04:02] <ZennouRyuu> jungsonn: I think that will depend on your firewall configuration
[04:03] <usemody> ZennouRyuu not yours ..... to many factors wouldn't open his eyes for the wonderfull world of open source
[04:03] <erUSUL> filip_: mutt is fullscreen curses program. try mailx or mailutils
[04:03] <KenSentMe> syntaxx: torrent is for the cd iso too
[04:03] <jungsonn> ok thanks all, have nice day.
[04:03] <ZennouRyuu> if you can open up ports on your router/firewall/whatever is in front of your network then you can use those ports for torrents
[04:04] <syntaxx> KenSentMe, yeah but i mean in kubuntu.com it says torrent kubuntu-dvd.iso
[04:04] <syntaxx> KenSentMe, .org rather
[04:04] <filip_> Ok KenSentMe and erUSUL  - look fine with mailx  thanx
[04:04] <gebruiker123> my ubuntu is sooo slow! WHY???!??!?!?
[04:05] <usemody> ZennouRyuu did you know any way to emulate or implementate a .net framwork based win32 app direkt into the linux core or the x server core
[04:05] <KenSentMe> syntaxx: try another server. I see kubuntu cd torrents here ftp://ftpserv.tudelft.nl/pub/Linux/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06.1
[04:05] <ompaul> gebruiker123, what hardware have you got?
[04:05] <KenSentMe> syntaxx: it's a dutch server
[04:06] <usemody> i hate to get multiple for administrate UseNeXT
[04:06] <syntaxx> KenSentMe, ok its not a dutch language right?
[04:06] <ardchoille> erUSUL: lol
[04:06] <KenSentMe> syntaxx: the installer is multilingual i think
[04:06] <ZennouRyuu> usemody: Im not certain, but i believe the mono project was created for that http://www.mono-project.com/
[04:07] <syntaxx> KenSentMe, ok theres a kubuntu 6.06 torrent here i can just manually update it to 6.06.1 right?
[04:07] <usemody> ZennouRyuu i've heared about but no plan how it can works
[04:07] <gebruiker123>  ompaul  IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT82 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.13GHz
[04:07] <chungaroo> i'm to the point where i told ndiswrapper the devid of my card and so "ndiswrapper -l" shows that both the driver and hardware are present
[04:07] <joltdude> syn. Yeha
[04:08] <usemody> the newsreader client from usenext is written in visual c++ and .net framework
[04:08] <chungaroo> iwconfig shows no wireless extensions
[04:08] <ompaul> gebruiker123, how much ram? what video card and how much swap space
[04:08] <usemody> as win32 binary