[05:41] <Nutubuntu> Ah! ... no, but I will ... : )
[05:41] <Xiao> But I'm guessing this is a kernel issue.
[05:41] <UbuntuServerUser> BTW using CLI
[05:41] <Truma1> hende:  hold on a second
[05:41] <Nutubuntu> osxdude|palmTX,  open the mp3s in a text editor?
[05:41] <Xiao> Feisty too
[05:42] <banlieue> oh, i'm stupid
[05:42] <Madpilot> skyfalcon866, not really. and it fixes itself - that's what the "fsck" is every 25-30 boots
[05:42] <RobDude> Which version of Ubuntu is Feisty?
[05:42] <osxdude|palmTX> Nutubuntu: Yes.
[05:42] <banlieue> i could just run a cron on start-up of course
[05:42] <Xiao> Maybe my keyboard is too new and needs a fix in hid-core.c
[05:42] <andy> RobDude: 7.0.4
[05:42] <RobDude> andy:  Thank you
[05:42] <Xiao> 7.04*
[05:42] <TheCreationist> osxdude|palmTX: Why on Earth should he do that?
[05:42] <skyfalcon866> i got 8% fragmentation though
[05:42] <ans_> anyone? How do I reset the alsa sound drive settings back to default values?
[05:42] <UbuntuServerUser> Quick question, how do i shutdown computer so that next time I can start it using WOL via CLI I'm in ubuntu server on SSH
[05:42] <gerro> skyfalcon866: what that mean?
[05:42] <Xiao> do you have jackd running, ans_
[05:42] <Xiao> ?
[05:42] <osxdude|palmTX> TheCreationist: To compare them, I guess.
[05:42] <RobDude> So hey - do any of you guys go to Linux user groups?  There is one in my area, I'm thinking of attending.  Anyone have any idea as to how 'newbie' friendly they typically are?
[05:42] <bjupton1> nutubuntu: thanks, I'll try that perhaps
[05:43] <Xiao> that would always kill ALSA for me, so I kill jackd and then everything works
[05:43] <ans_> Xiao, not sure, how would I check? ps?
[05:43] <gerro> UbuntuServerUser: set WOL in the bios?
[05:43] <Truma1> hende:  quit out of beryl-manager, open a terminal and run beryl-manager from there, see if it gives you any errors.. then tell it to switch to the beryl window manager and check again
[05:43] <skyfalcon866> 8% of my files are fragmented
[05:43] <Xiao> Ctrl-Esc
[05:43] <hende> while truma is lookin for something for me how do i check what session im in
[05:43] <Xiao> see if jackd is on the list
[05:43] <Nutubuntu> osxdude|palmTX,  it would spoil the suspense if I told how they ended? (Hint, it was not the butler after all )
[05:43] <Xiao> and you might have to sudo killall
[05:43] <andy> what's the startup script for all users, I want to have a program start when anyone logs in
[05:43] <Xiao> jackd
[05:43] <gerro> skyfalcon866: then run fdisk
[05:43] <hende> no idea how to do any of that truma
[05:43] <bjupton1> how difficult would it be to add Gnome to Xubuntu? would that be less painful, since I know that Xubuntu installs nicely
[05:43] <firebird611> NigelS: Unfortunately, that did not solve the problem. I still do not have 1680x1050 as an option.
[05:43] <osxdude|palmTX> * TaJMoX waits for it Nutubuntu: Find all the encoders and install 'em.
[05:43] <slavik> andy: why not start it with the system?
[05:43] <UbuntuServerUser> gerro Yes sir, just wondering how to shut it down now so I can restart it via WOL but the shutdown now command is confusing me....-H  locks system IDK just want clean shutdown with WOL support
[05:44] <osxdude|palmTX> oops
[05:44] <Truma1> hende:  K, go to applications>accessories>terminal
[05:44] <makuseru> hi, i have a HP DVD Writer, and it burns CDs fine, and it reads DVDs fine, but  when ever i try to burn a DVD it wont do it, it just gives me errors. Ive tried K3B, Nero For Linux, and a few other programs, what could be causing this?
[05:44] <gRaCiOsO> i have a problem with my nvidia card driver i install it and it works but when i reboot the pc i have to install the driver again couse it doesnt work after reboot
[05:44] <andy> slavik: which file is that?
[05:44] <hende> k
[05:44] <slavik> UbuntuServerUser: shutdown -p now
[05:44] <mongolai> bjupton1, not too hard. long d/l though.
[05:44] <osxdude|palmTX> Nutubuntu: Find all the encoders and install 'em.
[05:44] <Truma1> hende:  actually, first, right-click on the little beryl-jewel and select "quit"
[05:44] <hende> i did
[05:44] <slavik> andy: checkout the /etc/rc2.d/ directory :)
[05:44] <Anubis> is there usb stick wireless support in ubuntu?
[05:44] <Nutubuntu> t/y TheCreationist & osxdude|palmTX ... /me goes to read and learn :)
[05:44] <slavik> -p powers off
[05:44] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik
[05:44] <mongolai> bjupton1, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:44] <Truma1> hende:  k, now in the white terminal window that's open, type "beryl-manager"
[05:44] <andy> slavik, thanks
[05:44] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik that doesn't work, says p is wrong
[05:45] <banlieue> alright, my question shifted now... how do i make crontab perform a command only once after 2 minutes?
[05:45] <slavik> eh?
[05:45] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik "invalid option: -p"
[05:45] <NigelS> firebird611: so it just boots up into 1280x1024? Try using the latest nvidia drivers perhaps - other users have reported success with that monitor so it must be possible
[05:45] <ans_> Xiao, is that part of the libasound2-plugins package?
[05:45] <slavik> ahh, capital P :P
[05:45] <klobster> what is the apt-get suffix to reinstall a prog?
[05:45] <UbuntuServerUser> Thanks ;)
[05:45] <Frogzoo> !hardware | Anubis
[05:45] <ubotu> Anubis: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:45] <hende> cant execute
[05:45] <bjupton1> mongolai: from my existing xubuntu install?
[05:45] <TheCreationist> klobster: You need to remove first then install.
[05:45] <hende> its critical
[05:45] <osxdude|palmTX> hende: sudo apt-get instal beryl-manager
[05:45] <Xiao> I have a problem with my USB and keyboard, regarding "status -32"; hundreds of these messages show up at boot making it impossible to read anything or use the shell; I know it's the keyboard and mouse, I tried them separately and still got the errors. Is it a kernel issue? Is my hardware too new?
[05:45] <`Nick> is their a liveCD with wireless cards enabled?
[05:45] <Truma1> hende:  Did you cut the quotes off?
[05:46] <TheCreationist> klobster: If you want a completely fresh install, do this :  sudo apt-get autoremove --purge [package]  && apt-get install [package]
[05:46] <PurpZeY> `Nick: Yes. It is possible depending on your setup.
[05:46] <mongolai> bjupton1, yes. Then logout, and in the login screen (XDM?) select GNOME for the new session
[05:46] <`Nick> PurpZeY: you know of any with wireless enabled?
[05:46] <firebird611> NigelS: yes, it boots to 1280x1024. Thanks for all of your help. I can give the latest drivers a try. Do you mean nvidia.com or install the latest that is in Synaptic?
[05:46] <slavik> any ideas about getting sound working in ET? I can use aoss, but sound is choppy ...
[05:46] <hende> yeah
[05:46] <hende> i typed it how do you copy and paste with linux
[05:46] <klobster> I don't think I need a fresh install, I just think it missed a file or two, and I want to force a reinstall
[05:47] <Truma1> hende:  middle-click
[05:47] <shiester_miester> :O Hobbsee did you just UNban someone?
[05:47] <NigelS> firebird611: the latest in the repos are pretty out of date - I'd go for the nvidia ones
[05:47] <Xiao> ans_, jackd is part of the jack package I believe
[05:47] <Truma1> hende:  just type beryl-manager into the terminal
[05:47] <hende> im using a touch pad
[05:47] <Hobbsee> shiester_miester: yes
[05:47] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik hmm, WOL doesn't work after I use shutdown -P now :(
[05:47] <PurpZeY> `Nick: No, no, the LiveCD is Wireless enabled. But, if your card wouldn't work out of the box, then it might need further configuration which wouldn't be worth doing (or impossible) on a liveCD.
[05:47] <hende> i did
[05:47] <shiester_miester> incredible... O_O
[05:47] <sdouble> hey guys, I installed Skencil through apt-get and it doesn't load  Anyone else see this problem?
[05:47] <taylor> TheCreationist: Thanks for the help, I'm in ubuntu, and I got grpahics running smooth :)
[05:47] <osxdude|palmTX> hende Did you try --sudo apt-get install beryl-manager-- (minus da dashes)?
[05:47] <`Nick> PurpZeY: it works, but some livecds dont enable it
[05:47] <TheCreationist> klobster: Still, that would be a good command to run.  Keep in mind, though, that the "--purge" part removes any settings you used to have.
[05:47] <slavik> UbuntuServerUser: is WOL enabled in BIOS?
[05:47] <sivik> anyone here have expirence using alti-console in ubuntu/linux
[05:47] <taylor> NigelS: Thanks for the help, I'm in ubuntu, and I got grpahics running smooth :)
[05:47] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik yes
[05:47] <TheCreationist> taylor: I don't remember helping you, but you're welcome :P
[05:47] <firebird611> NigelS: One thing I notice in the Screen Resolution Preferences it is at 50 Hz. Shouldn't it be 60 Hz. Also, should I uninstall the ones in Synaptic first?
[05:47] <PurpZeY> `Nick: There is only one Fiesty Ubuntu LiveCD
[05:48] <ans_> Xiao, I'm looking in the synaptic package manager and I don't see it. I'm on feisty. If I had that what would it help with?
[05:48] <NigelS> firebird611: I made a typo! one sec
[05:48] <slavik> UbuntuServerUser: I dunno what to say (I've never used WOL)
[05:48] <`Nick> PurpZeY: ubuntu=not working with this lappy
[05:48] <hende> its not working like that
[05:48] <PurpZeY> `Nick: Well, there is server and desktop, but that's the only 2.
[05:48] <slavik> when you send the WOL signal, do your broadcast it?
[05:48] <firebird611> NigelS: Ok.
[05:48] <PurpZeY> `Nick: What card/chipset?
[05:48] <andy> is anyone having trouble with firefox freezing after playing a flash video?
[05:48] <taylor> TheCreationist: you told me sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.... that worked :)
[05:48] <`Nick> PurpZeY: to be honest i have nooo idea
[05:48] <Xiao> jackd goes with anything that uses the Jack audio, most programs can
[05:48] <`Nick> PurpZeY: not my lappy =p
[05:48] <Truma1> hende:  What happens when you type what osxdude|palmTX said?
[05:48] <TheCreationist> taylor: Ah, yes.  Well good... glad I could help.
[05:48] <Xiao> but just try "sudo killall jackd" in a terminal
[05:48] <niuq> hi
[05:48] <Xiao> see what it says then
[05:48] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik I'm using DD-WRT firmware to try the WOL, IDK what you mean by broadcast it, it says "netbroadcast <IP_ADDRESS>"
[05:48] <NigelS> firebird611: http://pastebin.com/942969
[05:49] <NigelS> taylor: cool :)
[05:49] <osxdude|palmTX> andy: Today my firefox froze on a tab close while a flash movie was up
[05:49] <niuq> how can i check if my video card is installed?
[05:49] <firebird611> NigelS: OK
[05:49] <PurpZeY> `Nick: Is your goal to see if you can get it to work on the LiveCD so that, you can install knowing the hardware works?
[05:49] <jtmoulia> osxdude|palmTX: yeah... my firefox actually does that a lot
[05:49] <`Nick> hm
[05:49] <ans_> Xiao, "no process killed" I don't have it
[05:49] <osxdude|palmTX> it was just text too
[05:49] <`Nick> PurpZeY: more liek the hd is shot and i need to get online =p
[05:49] <PurpZeY> `Nick: I mean, what are you trying to do?
[05:49] <NigelS> taylor: in future that kind of error shouldn't happen - xorg is almost able to get settings right without being told them
[05:49] <slavik> UbuntuServerUser: so it is sending to a broadcast address (meaning it will be sent to every port)
[05:49] <J^u^d^e^> Question Why does my Xchat crash on startup???
[05:49] <andy> osxdude|palmTX: have you found a fix
[05:49] <TheCreationist> niuq: You can always try "glxinfo" in a console and see if it displays the proper info at the top.
[05:49] <NigelS> andy: yeah I get that - I don't think there's a fix yet - it's the buggy flash player
[05:49] <Xiao> ans_, k that's not the problem
[05:49] <osxdude|palmTX> andy: I think there was an update.
[05:49] <PurpZeY> `Nick: And wired is unavailable ?
[05:50] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik uh, I'm pretty sure its using mac address
[05:50] <hende> i got it opened thru the the terminal
[05:50] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik but the lights on the network card aren't lit
[05:50] <`Nick> PurpZeY: wired is 2 feet from me and i'm in my basement - i need it upstairs in my bedroom by all the external hardware
[05:50] <slavik> UbuntuServerUser: now that is something ... try to power it up and power down during post
[05:50] <Truma1> hende:  K, with the terminal still open, tell it to switch to beryl by right clicking the jewel, "Select Window Manager" and then choose Beryl
[05:50] <PurpZeY> `Nick: So, why don't you plug in the laptop and then you need not worry about wifi?
[05:50] <ans_> Xiao, I fiddled with various settings in the Sound Preference panel, as well Volume Control. I'd like to just bring it back to what it was when Feisty was installed. Possible?
[05:51] <Mirdan> connecting to a #channel on another server how do i go about doing that?
[05:51] <`Nick> PurpZeY: because like i just said - i need it UPSTAIRS by the external hardware for it, but the wired connection is DOWNSTAIRS
[05:51] <_C_> What's the best media player that has a visualizer in a deb package?
[05:51] <mongolai> ans_, have you run alsamixer
[05:51] <|-|3d> Sorry to be a bother, I was hoping to get a little help.
[05:51] <sahib> hello, i need help with ubuntu
[05:51] <osxdude|palmTX> Nick: move the router upstairs :P
[05:51] <slavik> Mirdan: did you connect to the server?
[05:51] <hende> ok done
[05:51] <frost_> I'm really new to linux and I'm trying to get the functionality I had with Windows with my new linux install
[05:51] <bjupton1> mongolai: thanks, I will give that a try.  can't take longer than this is taking!
[05:51] <Mirdan> thats really my question how to connect to server
[05:51] <ans_> mongolai, yeah, but I'm not sure what to look for.
[05:51] <Truma1> hende:  Did it give you any output int he terminal window?
[05:51] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik HMM interesting, the lights are still off after power on/power off
[05:51] <Carnage\> _C_: amaroK
[05:51] <slavik> Mirdan: then open the buddy list, press CTRL + C and pick proper network and type in channel name :)
[05:51] <hende> no
[05:51] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik using power button
[05:51] <firebird611> NigelS: I'm going to restart now and see if that fixes it. BRB and I'll let you know.
[05:52] <sahib> subtitles in a movie on ubuntu is very hard
[05:52] <riotkittie> frost_:  what kind of functionality is that?
[05:52] <`Nick> osxdude|palmTX: theirs no working cable connection anywhere near my bedroom
[05:52] <TheCreationist> Man, I've never tried this beer before, but not only am I insanely buzzed after 3, but I've got to pee for the 2nd time. :P  BRB
[05:52] <mongolai> bjupton1, yea, it's a long download!
[05:52] <mongolai> ans_,
[05:52] <PurpZeY> `Nick: If wireless doesn't work out of the box, you'd probably need to run an NDISWrapper type setup...Trying running the command iwconfig at a terminal
[05:52] <frost_> I want to stream to the xbox 360. I think I found a way of doing it with wmv files but I can't find a way to convert avi files easily to wmvs... I found programs that should do that but I don't know how to work them
[05:52] <_C_> Carnage: It has a tiny visualizer, I want a full screen one like itunes or windows media player.
[05:52] <Truma1> hende:  was "beryl" already selected, or did you move it from another one?
[05:52] <Xiao> VLC supports VobSubs.
[05:52] <osxdude|palmTX> anyone know how to make fsck work with ntfs-formatted drives?
[05:52] <Xiao> And SRT files.
[05:52] <slavik> UbuntuServerUser: that's why you aren't having WOL work, the card has no power to it at all (it should be drawing from the 5VSB line for WOL)
[05:52] <`Nick> PurpZeY: thanks, i'll try it
[05:52] <Dave_> hello all
[05:52] <|-|3d> Everytime I try to run XMMS...it opens fine, but if I click play...it causes GNOME to start locking up and if I try to run Amarok, it wont even finish loading.  Any ideas?
[05:52] <Xiao> osxdude|palmTX, there is ntfsfix
[05:52] <shiester_miester> for some reason whenever anyone says "fsck" i think they are swearing :/
[05:52] <sahib> hola alguien habla espaol
[05:52] <niuq> how can i make a network...
[05:52] <PurpZeY> `Nick: It's just a command to see if ubuntu recognizes your card...You'll have to let me know what it says
[05:52] <hende> i moved it the first time you asked me on the desktop taskbar and when i tried it in the terminal it was already on there
[05:52] <riotkittie> !es | sahib
[05:52] <ubotu> sahib: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:52] <shiester_miester> !es | sahib
[05:52] <PurpZeY> !es | sahib
[05:52] <shiester_miester> lol
[05:52] <shiester_miester> hahhaha
[05:52] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik I could have sworn the lights did go on at some point, anyway, so how would I fix this?
[05:52] <Truma1> shiester_miester:  Read Little Gamers?
[05:53] <sahib> ja
[05:53] <shiester_miester> nope
[05:53] <`Nick> PurpZeY: i'm using debian right now cuz ubunu hates my monitor
[05:53] <sahib> ok
[05:53] <niuq> well i have two computeres and i'd like to access to the files of my second computer
[05:53] <Truma1> shiester_miester: They use it all of the time to curse.. I have that same problem
[05:53] <Xiao> So anyway, does "status -32" just mean there's no real support for my hardware in the kernel?
[05:53] <slavik> UbuntuServerUser: I have no clue :(, is it an ATX spec system?
[05:53] <sahib> someone can put subtitles in avi
[05:53] <ans_> mongolai, hmm under the [Capture]  view Mic does not show a bar, should it?
[05:53] <shiester_miester> how do you pronounce that :/  you cant
[05:53] <shiester_miester> like "fisk"?
[05:53] <mongolai> ans_, just a sec, lemme take a look...
[05:54] <Truma1> shiester_miester:  Ah, I guess so.. I dunno; it's a webcomic, so I guess they never had to deal with that obstacle
[05:54] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik yes....I have 3 network cards, 1 is wireless on the first pci, the othre two are the exact same card kingston something
[05:54] <PurpZeY> `Nick: I think it is going to be a hard task anyway, but, you'll definitely need the computer in front of you to work on it.
[05:54] <shiester_miester> yeah obviously, cos its all written
[05:54] <hende> truma did you get what i said
[05:54] <riotkittie> where in startup are the TTYs brought up? are they networking related?
[05:54] <osxdude|palmTX> it's fsck
[05:54] <`Nick> PurpZeY: the lappy is right here
[05:54] <Truma1> hende:  Nothing after "no output"
[05:54] <diesel_power> please a spanish channel???
[05:54] <mongolai> ans_, I'm sorry, but I forgot your original problem.
[05:54] <PurpZeY> !es | diesel_power
[05:54] <ubotu> diesel_power: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:54] <Truma1> hende:  Sorry, the text scrolls by so fast :\
[05:54] <riotkittie> !es > diesel_power
[05:55] <slavik> UbuntuServerUser: the regular network cards are they PCI?
[05:55] <hende> oh i changed it from the desktop when you first asked me. then i quit it oppened thru terminal and it was already selected....
[05:55] <slavik> or built in?
[05:55] <Nutubuntu> TheCreationist,  t/y again. I'm playing me some toonz even as I type these words :)
[05:55] <frost_> I tried vlc but it gives me weirdness in that the video goes solid black... so I looked further and learned that transcode and mencoder should be able to convert avi to wmv but I can't figure out how to work them
[05:55] <PurpZeY> `Nick: Ok, so, run the command iwconfig
[05:55] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik yes there in the 2nd and 3rd slot
[05:55] <robby> the only thing i can see about -32 error is due to the usb driver
[05:55] <|-|3d> Everytime I try to run XMMS...it opens fine, but if I click play...it causes GNOME to start locking up and if I try to run Amarok, it wont even finish loading.  Any ideas?
[05:55] <Truma1> hende:  Hmm, is the terminal still open?
[05:55] <Xiao> so my devices are unsupported?
[05:55] <TheCreationist> Nutubuntu: Glad to hear it.
[05:55] <Xiao> :/
[05:55] <orbisvicis> how can i add jack input to alsa ?
[05:55] <Nutubuntu> I'm glad to hear 'em myself :)
[05:55] <shiester_miester> |-|3d, rhythmbox?
[05:56] <|-|3d> Never heard of it.
[05:56] <osxdude|palmTX> Nutubuntu: Hey, Try Totem. You can find out the codecs there.
[05:56] <hende> did you get it that time truma
[05:56] <`Nick> PurpZeY: that isn't a command on debian apparently
[05:56] <Frogzoo> |-|3d: maybe try audacious
[05:56] <shiester_miester> |-|3d, use it :P
[05:56] <slavik> UbuntuServerUser: I think you need an extra cable for WOL (connect the card to the motherboard), since WOL is not handled over PCI
[05:56] <shiester_miester> i use rhythmbox, its great
[05:56] <homerj> totem-gstreamer > totem-xine
[05:56] <hende> truma will you go to ubuntu efects
[05:56] <|-|3d> XMMS worked fine about 2 hours ago.
[05:56] <al3xfur> can anyone help me undo an Ubuntu partition?
[05:56] <Truma1> hende:  Try switching to another window manager and then back to beryl, that should give some output int he terminal window
[05:56] <ans_> mongolai, my mic was working, but was really faint, I fiddled with the Sound prefs. and volume control settings and now it doesn't work at all. Ideally, I would like to return it to default values if possible so at least I know it would work again.
[05:56] <Mirdan> hmmm ok is there a basic command to connect to irc.urladdress and then to #channel?
[05:56] <PurpZeY> `Nick: I am not trying to be rude but, if you are running it on debian why not get support through debian?
[05:56] <Nutubuntu> osxdude|palmTX,  t/y - but I'm doing fine now with Rhythmbox
[05:56] <firebird611> NigelS: That did not correct the problem either.
[05:56] <Truma1> hende:  ubuntu effects?
[05:56] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN I'm looking, hold on letme open the box up and see
[05:56] <osxdude|palmTX> Nutubuntu: okay
[05:56] <Dave_> I tried to get WiveCVS installed on my Xubuntu installation but it gave me a weird error
[05:56] <Frogzoo> al3xfur: undo? just reformat it as whatever you like, or is the grub on it causing problems?
[05:56] <`Nick> PurpZeY: i'm askin everyone cuz i've been trying to get it working for the past 2 days
[05:57] <riotkittie> Mirdan:  /server irc.serverhere    and then on the next line /join #channel
[05:57] <Dave_> something like test error
[05:57] <al3xfur> like reformat what i want
[05:57] <firebird611> NigelS: It still boots to 1280x1024.
[05:57] <mongolai> ans_, OK. First off I'm using alsamixer from a terminal. Put the volume slider at about 30% and try again
[05:57] <slavik> UbuntuServerUser: that's the cable (the picture is a picture of connectors on it)
[05:57] <riotkittie> Mirdan: though it may differ, depending on your client. but, afaik, that should work across the board
[05:57] <al3xfur> because my Windows partition has little space on it left
[05:57] <PurpZeY> `Nick: Well, I certainly can't help you a debian problem. Maybe someone here can, but, notwithstanding the fact that Ubuntu is debian based, I don't think this is really the best place to get support for it.
[05:57] <Truma1>
[05:57] <`Nick> PurpZeY: alright
[05:58] <TheCreationist> So, just curious.  Is there any way to move space from Partition #1 to Partition #3 on my HD?
[05:58] <|-|3d> MP3's play fine in Audacity
[05:58] <robby> www.linux-usb.org/devices.html
[05:58] <osxdude|palmTX> Nick: See if there is #debian on this server
[05:58] <Sputnike> Hey All, does anyone know of a piece of software that will allow me to format a hard drive that has Windows installed? I need to format it to NTFS
[05:58] <ans_> mongolai, volume slider for what? Master?
[05:58] <mongolai> ans_, mic
[05:58] <|-|3d> All I did before this XMMS problem was uninstall a couple games I don't play.
[05:58] <KikkomanChow> hi, i just installed ubuntu for the first time.. i need help readjusting my resolution.. its currently at 1024x768.. i cant increase it..
[05:59] <hende> ok i switched to compbiz
[05:59] <osxdude|palmTX> Sputnike: use the Windows installer
[05:59] <riotkittie> Sputnike: you can use gparted. or you can use a Win install CD
[05:59] <Sonicadvance1> Is there a shortcut to open Terminal?
[05:59] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik OK i opened it, I don't have those cables and there isn't any spot on the network cards to put it on
[05:59] <Truma1> hende:  Now go back to Beryl and see if it tells you that everything is "passed" in the terminal
[05:59] <slavik> maybe the cards don't support WOL ... check the manual
[05:59] <osxdude|palmTX> I just noticed that I always run the Root terminal
[05:59] <Sputnike> Yeah my Vista disk is messed up, it tried an install now it black screens constantly, not allowing me to install anything else, it dual booted with Ubuntu... Il give gparted a try
[05:59] <Sputnike> thanks
[05:59] <hende> how do i run the terminal again to see that
[05:59] <frost_> can someone please help me with converting avi files to wmv files?
[06:00] <Xiao> you're gonna need windows for that, frost_
[06:00] <mongolai> Sonicadvance1, you can drag and drop Applications\Accessories\Terminal to the quick launch bar
[06:00] <orbisvicis> !jack
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <KikkomanChow> anyone? (how to increase resolution > than 1024)?
[06:00] <hende> i mean what do i type
[06:00] <osxdude|palmTX> frost_, I m sry, but no video converters for ubuntu
[06:00] <Truma1> kikkomanChow What graphics card do you have?
[06:00] <riotkittie> !res | KikkomanChow
[06:00] <ubotu> KikkomanChow: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:00] <Sputnike> KikkomanChow: Go to System, Preferences, Screen Resolution... it should allow you
[06:00] <NigelS> firebird611: that's annoying :( http://pastebin.com/942972 is the latest I thought about - but really it ought to have worked as far as I can see.  The file isn't the normal layout because you're run the nvidia settings tool.  If using that and the latest nvidia drivers doesn't work then I am not sure what is at fault.  Possibly that it's missing somethng ubuntu wants but I doubt it.  Give that a go but I have to sleep -  I seem to have forgotten to do so and it's
[06:00] <Sonicadvance1> well, it would be nice to have a keyboard shortcut
[06:01] <Truma1> hende:  you don't have to type anything in the terminal if it's still open, just switch back to beryl
[06:01] <osxdude|palmTX> frost_: U can use Windows Media Encoder.
[06:01] <KikkomanChow> Truma1 i think its some intel onboard one from dell.. i cant increase it > than 1024
[06:01] <robby> xiao: www.linux-usb.org/devices.html
[06:01] <frost_> there's no video converters for linux?
[06:01] <robby> might help
[06:01] <Truma1> kikkomanchow:  You could try sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select whatever rez you want
[06:01] <ans_> mongolai, huh how bizarre, now my output sound has disappeared.
[06:01] <osxdude|palmTX> Frost_: nope. At least none that I know of.
[06:01] <osxdude|palmTX> at least none in the respritories.
[06:01] <Truma1> KikkomanChow: err, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:01] <frost_> transcode, mencoder, vlc...
[06:01] <frost_> I just don't know how to use them
[06:01] <riotkittie> dpkg
[06:02] <firebird611> NigelS: OK, I will give that a try. Thank you very much for all of your help.
[06:02] <hende> its not open sorry
[06:02] <mongolai> ans_, did you change the other settings like Master or PCM?
[06:02] <osxdude|palmTX> at least none that work
[06:02] <riotkittie> oh dear, i'm slow tonight ^_^
[06:02] <hende> hey truma can you go to ubuntu effects so i can understand you
[06:02] <riotkittie> TTYs are brought up with networking during the startup process, right?
[06:02] <orbisvicis> frost_, interested in dvds get lxdvdrip and dvd::rip, interested in encoding files get avidemux and dvdauthor
[06:02] <Truma1> hende:  that's fine, go ahead and close out of beryl-manager .. then go to applications>accessories>terminal and type "beryl manager" -- what do you mean ubuntu effects, like the channel?
[06:03] <NigelS> firebird611: nps - as I say ppl on the net claim to have gotten this mode to work though some think it was switching to the latest driver...they might have altered their xorg while doing so though and that could have been the real cause
[06:03] <ans_> mongolai, figured it out, yeah, I had adjusted Master down to 30 thinking that's what you meant, and brought it back up, but it muted it. Fixed it... trying mic now...
[06:03] <osxdude|palmTX> riotkittty" yes
[06:03] <hende> yes
[06:03] <Dave_> I tried to install the nvidia driver for my xubuntu installation but now I can't log into my linux, it gives me can't start X until I fix the problem?
[06:03] <osxdude|palmTX> sry bad typin tday
[06:04] <riotkittie> Alright. Now I need a workaround because my networking's not starting.  hmm.
[06:04] <osxdude|palmTX> Ewww, "Wicked" soundtrack lol jk
[06:04] <hende> tell me how to paste bin and ill paste what it says
[06:04] <Dave_> is there a way to fix the entry in the config file, cause my card is Agp but it shows up as PCI in the log
[06:04] <Xiao> Thanks so much , robby
[06:04] <hende> how do you copy and paste???
[06:04] <Xiao> I think it could be my hub
[06:04] <TheCreationist> osxdude|palmTX: I'm so excited to actually see it, though! :P
[06:04] <robby> xiao  chances are your going be required to edit some driver files yourself
[06:04] <riotkittie> well, a work around other than my current, which is loading getty from an xterm
[06:04] <riotkittie> brb
[06:04] <firebird611> NigelS: Well I knot other Distros have worked out of the box at that res for me, but I prefer using Ubuntu and I am sure ubuntu can get to that res as well, just will take a lot of working on it evidently.
[06:04] <ans_> mongolai, nope nothing, still no input
[06:04] <firebird611> NigelS: Thanks again.
[06:04] <mongolai> ans_, are you running an actual microphone or something else like a guitar, etc...
[06:04] <Xiao> yea i kinda hope not
[06:04] <Sonicadvance1> someone was talking about opening terminal in the working directory
[06:04] <Sonicadvance1> how did that turn out?
[06:04] <osxdude|palmTX> TheCreationist: you havent seen it? neither have I...
[06:04] <Truma1> hende:  #ubuntu effects won't open, but I'm in #ubuntueffects now
[06:05] <slavik> Sonicadvance1: there is a package with that script in the repo
[06:05] <TheCreationist> osxdude|palmTX: Not yet.  I'm hoping to see it a week from Tuesday, though.  I love the music and the whole premise of it.
[06:05] <KikkomanChow> i checked the screen resolution preference.. i dont seem to able to incrase it
[06:05] <KikkomanChow> o i mean.. im at 1280 x
[06:05] <KikkomanChow> or maybe im just stupid and the card only supports upto 1280?
[06:05] <Sonicadvance1> and what would the packages name be?
[06:05] <KikkomanChow> eek
[06:05] <ans_> mongolai, actual logitech mic, like I said it was working albeit quietly
[06:05] <Truma1> KikkomanChow: Do you have your latest drivers?
[06:05] <shiester_miester> back
[06:05] <osxdude|palmTX> TheCreationist: nice.
[06:06] <ans_> mongolai, here's what I have in alsamixer:
[06:06] <orbisvicis> ive installed jack, but in system, prefs, sound: i cant output to jack ... how can i fix this ?
[06:06] <Nutubuntu> Hm ... Serpentine doesn't normalize audio levels when burning an audio CD? ... :/ okayyyy ... that's been a confirmed bug for over a year. What's a good audio CD burner that normalizes levels?
[06:06] <riotkittie> i wish i could run the fiesty live cd. :|  i want to know if it's worth the upgrade or something i would hate, without having to install to find out
[06:06] <banlieue> is there any way to incorporate a 'sleep 10' into a start-up program?
[06:06] <mongolai> ans_, stupid question, but are you absolutely sure it's plugged in properly?
[06:07] <robby> OMG!! MMMM!! Bannana cream pie
[06:07] <banlieue> aka, is there a way of making a start-up program wait 10 seconds before running (on start-up)?
[06:07] <osxdude|palmTX> Nutubuntu: K3B. it's KDE, but is rocks
[06:07] <kikkomanchow> lost connection >.>
[06:07] <nickrud> banlieue, write a script wrapper
[06:07] <orbisvicis> Nutubuntu, maybe run sound converter first before burning
[06:07] <osxdude|palmTX> !good
[06:07] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:07] <Nutubuntu> osxdude|palmTX,  k3B does not currently normalize before burning ...
[06:07] <Sonicadvance1> that was helpful I guess
[06:07] <banlieue> nickrud: is there a commandline way as well?
[06:07] <Nutubuntu> orbisvicis ... sound converter? (I'll go research ...)
[06:07] <nickrud> banlieue, specifically?
[06:07] <orbisvicis> banlieue, create a file in /usr/share/local with the command sleep 10 xxx; make it executable, and add it to startup
[06:08] <orbisvicis> * ;xxx
[06:08] <osxdude|palmTX> Nutubuntu: Rly? oops. I think that's a software-wide lunix bug.
[06:08] <slavik> anyone aware of good audio/video encoding front ends? the kind that only deal with audio or only video ...
[06:08] <banlieue> nickrud: um, a way to make it work without having to make a file for it?
[06:08] <niuq> iv'e just shared a folder, but i dont know how to access to that folder with my other computer, we are in the same network (i guess)
[06:08] <nickrud> banlieue, not that I'm aware of
[06:08] <shiester_miester> niuq, i have a similar problem
[06:08] <osxdude|palmTX> slavik, there is soundconverter
[06:08] <shiester_miester> if anyone could help niuq, I'd be interested in the solution
[06:08] <Nutubuntu> osxdude|palmTX,  sadly yes. there was a symlink "fix" suggested but I've read that doesn't work
[06:08] <osxdude|palmTX> !info soundconverter
[06:08] <ubotu> soundconverter: convert sound files to other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 67 kB, installed size 360 kB
[06:09] <klobster> whay cant I have totem-xine and totem-gstreamer at the same time?
[06:09] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik is WOL possible through wireless?
[06:09] <firebird611> NigelS: That did not work either :-(
[06:09] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik only information i could get concerning this card is that it is "PCI" interface, no WOL anywhere :(
[06:09] <Nutubuntu> orbisvicis ... so I'd pipe from soundconverter into ... cdrecord? I would guess?
[06:09] <slavik> UbuntuServerUser: dunno, depends on the spec ... I see why someone would want it a reason why you wouldn't ... and a reason why it can't be done
[06:09] <ans_> mongolai, thanks for asking :) but yeah it is
[06:09] <nickrud> klobster, because totem-gstreamer is still a piece of something, and needs replacement?
[06:09] <slavik> UbuntuServerUser: then it prolly doesn't support WOL
[06:10] <riotkittie> niuq: is that other computer a linux box? windows?
[06:10] <osxdude|palmTX> Nutubuntu:Thas too bad. Sorry, man.
[06:10] <orbisvicis> Nutubuntu, if sound converter is what you want .. on second thought not sure
[06:10] <robby> Try audacity
[06:10] <banlieue> alright, i'll stop nagging and just use an external file for it
[06:10] <niuq> riokittie: linux
[06:10] <banlieue> thanks a lot, nickrud (and orbisvicis)
[06:10] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik damn http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:EHc7PgGZSGsJ:www.shopping.com/xPF-Kingston-KINGSTON-10-100-NIC-22443100+"kne110tx"&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us
[06:10] <Nutubuntu> orbisvicis,  it's fine either way ... google and I are friends :)
[06:10] <mongolai> ans_, My guitar always comes unplugged, and it takes me about 10 minutes to realize it, every time!!
[06:10] <riotkittie> niuq: ah. im completely clueless at linux > linux networking :P sorry
[06:10] <osxdude|palmTX> oh yeah audacity. it rocks.
[06:11] <osxdude|palmTX> UbuntuServerUser: Hey! That' an IP address!
[06:11] <ans_> mongolai, here are part of my settings: Master = 100%, Master M = mute,Master S=mute,Headphone=mute,PCM=81%,Surround=mute,Surround=Shared,Center=mute,LFE=mute,Line=mute,Line Jack=mute,CD=80%,Mic=32%,Mic Boost=on,Mic Select=Mic1,Phone=mute,IEC958=off,
[06:11] <robby> you can run it from cmd
[06:11] <shiester_miester> one would think that linux -> linux networking should be rather easy?
[06:11] <robby> or start it from it rather
[06:11] <shiester_miester> especially if there is nothing complex about the setup
[06:11] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik so how do you suggest I turn this headless computer on in my back closet? its mounted way high so its kind of hard to lift it and press power button every time
[06:11] <banlieue> shiester_miester: is that an open or a rhetorical question?
[06:12] <Truma1> Can someone help hende out with Beryl?  He's got this pastebin http://pastebin.ca/605369, and I'm not sure what that means
[06:12] <shiester_miester> banlieue, im having a problen with networking and it's annoying, thats all
[06:12] <maxagaz> what is the reference newspaper for nerds ?
[06:12] <riotkittie> shiester_miester: i imagine it is, but i've only got linux on my laptop and my husband has no interest in it and wont let me put it on the desktop :P so i've never had reason to look into it
[06:12] <`Nick> anyone ever used SAM Linux
[06:12] <osxdude|palmTX> UbuntuServerUser: use a ladder
[06:12] <slavik> UbuntuServerUser: how are you with soldering wires? (relocate the power switch)
[06:12] <mongolai> ans_, for one thing, turn up master m, and master s
[06:12] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: what's the issue?
[06:12] <maxagaz> i forgot the name...
[06:13] <shiester_miester> i just have 2 computers connected with a crossover cable, no firewalls or routers or anything fancy in between them, and they just refuse to ping most of the time, and then when they do, I can't get file sharing working
[06:13] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik lol OK i get it I'll stop being lazy and use a ladder, thanks osxdude|palmTX
[06:13] <Frogzoo> maxagaz: slashdot?
[06:13] <maxagaz> an american newspaper...
[06:13] <maxagaz> Frogzoo: yes!
[06:13] <shiester_miester> i did have it working once, along with internet connection sharing, so its definitely possible
[06:13] <maxagaz> thanks
[06:13] <osxdude|palmTX> hender ill be back
[06:13] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik so no way wireless WOL will work huh?
[06:13] <slavik> UbuntuServerUser: prolly not
[06:13] <niuq> iv'e just shared a folder, but i dont know how to access to that folder with my other computer, we are in the same network (i guess)
[06:13] <UbuntuServerUser> slavik ok thanks
[06:13] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: does ifconfig show a proper ip address on both machines?
[06:14] <banlieue> i'm out of questions to ask again, now ;(
[06:14] <banlieue> means i've not been working hard enough
[06:14] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, gimme a sec to turn the other one on
[06:14] <mongolai> ans_, then hit the tab key to switch to the capture setting, and turn that up to 80 or so
[06:14] <Truma1> Can anyone help with this http://pastebin.ca/605369 ?
[06:14] <osxdude|palmTX> hende: reinstall bery
[06:14] <osxdude|palmTX> l
[06:14] <dibblego> is it possible to find all installed packages
[06:14] <dibblego> ?
[06:15] <ans_> mongolai, that was at 100%
[06:15] <mongolai> ans_, shoot, I was hoping that was it. :(
[06:15] <osxdude|palmTX> Truma1: It looks sorta X-y, but it seems like Beryl can't find an X screen.
[06:15] <robby> lol.  wallop
[06:16] <mongolai> ans_, what program are you using to capture from the mic?
[06:16] <Truma1> osxdude|palmTX: He said that he may have more than one beryl installed, tho I dunno how that's possible .. is it apt-get remove beryl-manager?
[06:16] <kikkomanchow> hrmm how do i get widescreen resolutions on my ubuntu?
[06:16] <ans_> mongolai, what about line in? That's muted right now
[06:16] <ans_> mongolai, I was trying to get skype to work
[06:17] <ans_> mongolai, so I have been testing with their testing service
[06:17] <osxdude|palmTX> Truma1: probaby 2 different version far apart from each other. and yes it is.
[06:17] <robby> kik: try system - preferences - screen resolution
[06:17] <mongolai> ans_, try unmuting that, also, is it a USB mic or a 1/8 inch standard type?
[06:17] <Truma1> osxdude|palmTX: I gotcha; could that cause that problem?
[06:17] <Truma1> osxdude|palmTX: Not sure why I'm acting as proxy for hende :\  Where'd he go?
[06:18] <hende> ok sorry
[06:18] <osxdude|palmTX> Kikkomnchow: What is your card's manufacturer?
[06:18] <Truma1> hende:  np
[06:18] <kikkomanchow> robby: doesnt display those resolution
[06:18] <kikkomanchow> osxdude|palmTX: intel integrated
[06:18] <ans_> mongolai, standard type
[06:18] <hende> it hard to read in here
[06:18] <hende> so does anyone think they know what to do
[06:18] <Truma1> hende:  sudo apt-get remove beryl-manager
[06:18] <the_padawan> hi all, how can i search for the ip addresses of machines in my network that i can ssh into?
[06:19] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, taking longer than expected, sorry.  it keeps crashing :P
[06:19] <osxdude|palmTX> hende: sudo apt-get remove beryl-* (this will remove evrything beryl
[06:19] <sonoml> Is there a command to reset the sound card or driver?  I have nothing with sound running but XMMS says the sound card is in use and other programs produce no sound. but i cant logout or restart due to a download
[06:20] <osxdude|palmTX> hende: then sudo apt-get install beryl-manager
[06:20] <mongolai> ans_, do you have the sound recorder app, or audacity installed? If not install one of them and try to record with it
[06:21] <kikkomanchow> ...
[06:21] <kikkomanchow> my screen looks so stretched >.<
[06:21] <ans_> mongolai, yeah tried the sound recorder app, but had other problems (couldn't save b/c it said something like "error parameters wrong")
[06:21] <osxdude|palmTX> kikkomanchow: omg! omg! omg! install 915resolution!
[06:21] <mongolai> ans_, I'm stumped. I wish I could think of something else.
[06:22] <osxdude|palmTX> !info 915resolution | kikkomanchow
[06:22] <ubotu> kikkomanchow: 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-10ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[06:22] <kikkomanchow> whats 915 resolution?
[06:22] <hende> it uninstalled and then i did install and it said it unpacked
[06:22] <hende> and its up in the taskbar
[06:22] <ans_> mongolai, okay, thanks for trying. I'm about pooped on it myself, so it's a good time to give up.
[06:22] <kikkomanchow> its my first time using linux.. im confused
[06:22] <MISTERTibbs> !915 resolution
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 915 resolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <hende> theres only one in system tools now though
[06:22] <UbuntuServerUser> quick question, does ubuntu server support pnp and should I enable it in my bios???
[06:22] <osxdude|palmTX> !info 915resolution
[06:22] <mongolai> ans_, no problem. Good luck with that!
[06:22] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-10ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[06:22] <Truma1> hende:  try getting the effects to work
[06:23] <osxdude|palmTX> install it using Synaptic Package Manager
[06:23] <Dr_willis> UbuntuServerUser,  ive not noticed PNP settings n the bios having any effect on my Linux systems.
[06:23] <Skiguy> is nvu still in the universe?
[06:23] <MISTERTibbs> !nvu
[06:23] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.
[06:23] <osxdude|palmTX> !info nvu
[06:23] <ubotu> Package nvu does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:23] <hende> it wont open where i can customize
[06:23] <Dr_willis> UbuntuServerUser,  i cant think of why you would disable it.
[06:23] <UbuntuServerUser> dr_willis k, you have it enabled?
[06:23] <UbuntuServerUser> dr_willis ok
[06:23] <UbuntuServerUser> dr_willis I will enable it, thanks
[06:24] <sonoml> Is there a command to reset the sound card or driver?  I have nothing with sound running but XMMS says the sound card is in use and other programs produce no sound.
[06:24] <Truma1> hende you may have to restart x .. hit ctrl+alt+backspace and then re-log in -- this will close all of your windows, so save anything important
[06:24] <Skiguy> !html
[06:24] <osxdude|palmTX> bye hende
[06:24] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[06:24] <kikkomanchow> ok.. i downloaded this: 915resolution-0.5.3.tar.gz what do i do with it?
[06:24] <Sretsnom> DCC SEND "onetwothreefourfivesixseveneight"
[06:24] <MISTERTibbs> !915resolution
[06:24] <Skiguy> hm. well. who's tried all the editors? anyone have any favorites?
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 915resolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <Frogzoo> !ops
[06:24] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[06:25] <Truma1> kikkomanchow: you should be able to sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[06:25] <Truma1> kikkomanchow: and not have to worry about the .tar.gz stuff
[06:26] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, FINALLY it starts
[06:26] <osxdude|palmTX> kikkomanchow.Actually, go to Applicaions>System Tools>Root TErminal, and do what TRuma1 said
[06:26] <kikkomanchow> thx truma ill try that
[06:26] <shiester_miester> for some reason it crashed like 10 times :/
[06:26] <shiester_miester> the old computer is a piece of junk :P i installed ubuntu on it in an attempt to rescue it and make it useful
[06:26] <Truma1> hende:  Any luck?
[06:26] <hende> k back
[06:26] <kikkomanchow> it says Couldn't find package 915resolution
[06:26] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, now to do the ifconfig...
[06:27] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: doesn't sound good - maybe choose "memtest" from the grub menu, also might be power issues
[06:27] <hende> no i cant even get to the controls to change the animations
[06:27] <Truma1> kikkomanchow: try sudo apt-get update
[06:27] <Truma1> kikkomanchow:  and then the other command
[06:27] <MISTERTibbs> I installed feisty on an A31 Thinkpad and it runs great
[06:27] <kikkomanchow> that updates some sort of library eh?
[06:27] <osxdude|palmTX> Truma1: I think we need to help him with the repo settings...
[06:27] <hende> me???
[06:27] <robby>                                        Consequently, even if you are using a 30-inch monitor and the sexi-
[06:27] <robby> est video card in the universe, you may find that your Ubuntu Linux system insists on displaying everything
[06:27] <robby> at a resolution like 1024768
[06:27] <Truma1> osxdude|palmTX: Oh yeah, I had to add universe to the main ones before that'd work.. I don't remember where that is, tho
[06:27] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, ok, they are both reporting the valid IP addresses that I assigned to them
[06:27] <osxdude|palmTX> hende: not you
[06:28] <hende> oh what about me
[06:28] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: can you ping the other ips?
[06:28] <kikkomanchow> hrmm
[06:28] <MISTERTibbs> !ping
[06:28] <ubotu> pong
[06:28] <kikkomanchow> ok i did that ..
[06:28] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, you mean can they ping each other?
[06:28] <osxdude|palmTX> Truma1: Prefrences>Software Sources
[06:28] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: by ip address
[06:28] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, nope
[06:28] <osxdude|palmTX> !info ping
[06:28] <ubotu> Package ping does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:29] <shiester_miester> it just returns "destination host unreachable" constantly
[06:29] <the_padawan> can anyone tell what would it take to set up a local dns so that if i type $ ssh computer2  it will connect me to computer2?
[06:29] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: can you ping the local ip ?
[06:29] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, which IP is that? the local address for this computer?
[06:29] <osxdude|palmTX> Ping yourself!
[06:29] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: yes
[06:29] <shiester_miester> ah ok
[06:29] <hende> i dont wanna ping myself!!!\
[06:29] <shiester_miester> yep, it pings just fine
[06:29] <hende> did osx and truma give up on me
[06:29] <sonoml> I have every program closed yet i still get the error my soundcard is in use.  My sound normally has never had a problem. is there a way to make it refresh the soundcard or restart it
[06:30] <Truma1> hende:  Sorry, umm...
[06:30] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: both comps on the same network range?
[06:30] <MISTERTibbs> pinging yourself is illegal in the 48 states
[06:30] <kikkomanchow> truma1: Setting up 915resolution (0.5.2-10ubuntu1) ...
[06:30] <kikkomanchow> Starting 915resolution: Panel id function not supported
[06:30] <kikkomanchow> *** Your 915resolution was not automatically configured! ***
[06:30] <kikkomanchow> Please read /usr/share/doc/915resolution/README.Debian then define
[06:30] <kikkomanchow> MODE, XRESO, and YRESO manually in /etc/default/915resolution .
[06:30] <kikkomanchow> For now a default will be set, which might be inappropiate.
[06:30] <kikkomanchow> 915resolution.
[06:30] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, both have the same subnet mask, IP addresses are <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:30] <sonoml> kikkomanchow, follow the instructions and read those pages
[06:30] <kikkomanchow> k
[06:31] <TaintedTux> Im looking for a good movie player for ubuntu that supports .mov format well...any suggestions?
[06:31] <Truma1> kikkomanchow: Was that through apt-get?
[06:31] <kikkomanchow> Truma1: yes
[06:31] <K`zan> Hi folks, adept hung and I had to kill it and now it still thinks adept is running - lock file someplace?
[06:31] <Hobbsee> Frogzoo: he's long gone
[06:31] <kikkomanchow> after apt-get i got this Update Manager thing.. and it is now updating all these files too..
[06:31] <Frogzoo> Hobbsee: sure, thanks, sorry for bothering you
[06:32] <Truma1> kikkomanchow:  Hmm, maybe it'll work after that
[06:32] <robby> kik: so screen resolution wont let you change the res?
[06:32] <Truma1> osxdude|palmTX: Do you have any idea for hende?  I'm out of my league there :\
[06:32] <kikkomanchow> well.. my max is 1280 x.. and there are no widescreen res
[06:32] <MISTERTibbs> TaintedTux, just get realplayer
[06:32] <TaintedTux> ok...thatll work i suppose
[06:32] <TaintedTux> thanks didnt think of it
[06:32] <Truma1> kikkomanchow: I had that same problem on my macbook, that 915resolution thing fixed it for me after it got all set up
[06:33] <K`zan> Hi folks, adept hung and I had to kill it and now it still thinks adept is running - lock file someplace - not in /var/lock :-(
[06:33] <osxdude|palmTX> hende: reinstall...
[06:33] <Dr_willis> !fixadept
[06:33] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:33] <kikkomanchow> Truma1: did u have to manually configure something on your 915?
[06:33] <Shadowpillar_> feisty has to be the most unstable ubuntu I've used yet
[06:33] <shiester_miester> Shadowpillar_, really?
[06:33] <robby> i wonder if that will make my screen res better
[06:33] <kikkomanchow> its feistastic
[06:33] <shiester_miester> how unstable is it, for you?
[06:33] <Truma1> kikkomanchow: Not that I remember; after the apt-get install thing, it did everything by itself.  I think I may have had to restart my computer or maybe just restart x
[06:33] <Dr_willis> Shadowpillar_,  i find it the most stable so far.. actually they all have been very stable.
[06:33] <Shadowpillar_> network manager randomly disables my connection completely
[06:33] <shiester_miester> kikkomanchow, lmao
[06:33] <Shadowpillar_> to where I have to restart
[06:34] <shiester_miester> wow, thats terrible
[06:34] <Shadowpillar_> like every 10 hours
[06:34] <kikkomanchow> truma1: what is "restart x".. i dunt even know what is x
[06:34] <ReDWolfLH> hi all
[06:34] <osxdude|palmTX> !x
[06:34] <Shadowpillar_> or the system will randomly freeze
[06:34] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:34] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: does 'sudo mii-tool eth0' show the link as up?
[06:34] <Shadowpillar_> never had this issue with dapper or edgy
[06:34] <Nutubuntu> Shadowpillar_,  same hardware?
[06:34] <kikkomanchow> o.. i thought ubuntu uses something called GNOME or something
[06:34] <robby> ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:34] <Shadowpillar_> yep
[06:34] <Shadowpillar_> nothing changed
[06:35] <Nutubuntu> It's been rocksteady for me
[06:35] <kikkomanchow> whats GNOME compare to X
[06:35] <osxdude|palmTX> !x > kikkomanchow (see PM from ubotu)
[06:35] <Nutubuntu> Shadowpillar_,  last time you ran memtest?
[06:35] <Dr_willis> X is the foundation, GNome is the House. :)
[06:35] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
[06:35] <kikkomanchow> o
[06:35] <Shadowpillar_> Nutubuntu: the crashing thing I think is the madwifi driver
[06:35] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: both ends
[06:35] <Sonicadvance1> anyone know how to hook a Xbox 360 to a computer with 2 LAN cards with 1 LAN card being hooked to the internet and the other to the 360 and allowing the 360 to have internet?
[06:35] <osxdude|palmTX> Gnome IS x, man.
[06:35] <kikkomanchow> !x GNOME
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x gnome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <Truma1> kikkomanchow: The shortcut to restart is ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:35] <J^u^d^e^> wohow do i control my mouse by a cellphone?? I've done it in windows and i want to do it in ubuntu
[06:35] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, on the other end it says "no MII transceiver present!"
[06:36] <Truma1> kikkomanchow: But that closes everything, so be careful
[06:36] <kikkomanchow> do i have to restart the computer to restart x?
[06:36] <osxdude|palmTX> Sonicadvance1: I have tried that with computers; no luck.
[06:36] <Dr_willis> osxdude|palmTX,  Gnome is a Desktop Enviroment, a set og programs that run on top of X. Gnome is NOT X.
[06:36] <kikkomanchow> or i can i just restart the x part from terminal of some sort?
[06:36] <Sonicadvance1> It has to be possible to do it
[06:36] <MISTERTibbs> Sonicadavance1, a gaming router just for the xbox runs about $30.  much more if you buy the "official" xbox router
[06:36] <Madpilot> kikkomanchow, no. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace will restart X - and all the programs in it
[06:36] <robby> xserver is it?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> gnome is one of many 'gui's you can use on linux.
[06:36] <osxdude|palmTX> Dr_wills: Oh, right.
[06:36] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: then try:  sudo ethtool  eth0
[06:36] <ReDWolfLH> sonic you can press ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:36] <hende> hey everyone i got beryl but i cant get to where you can change animations and stuff
[06:36] <Sonicadvance1> I mean, seriously, if a router can do it, why can't a PC
[06:36] <kikkomanchow> Madpilot: oic.. ic ic
[06:36] <Sonicadvance1> ReDWolfLH fuck no
[06:37] <kikkomanchow> ok ill do just that after the updates
[06:37] <Sonicadvance1> I'm not restarting X
[06:37] <shiester_miester> Sonicadvance1, its definitely possible, maybe its just not implemented
[06:37] <Dr_willis> kikkomanchow,  alt-ctrl-backspace will FORCE X to quit/restart Right then and there.. :)
[06:37] <ReDWolfLH> That's how you restart X
[06:37] <Truma1> hende:  the jewel is sitting in the top right hand corner, but it won't let you click on it?
[06:37] <ReDWolfLH> isn't that just what you asked?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> Do not pass go.. do not collect $200.. kills it then and there. :)
[06:37] <robby> lol sonic
[06:37] <hende> no
[06:37] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, anything specific that I'm looking for in the output of that?
[06:37] <kikkomanchow> Am i crazy to learn how to use linux, install LAMP, learn one of the Ps, and make a webpage by Tommorrow night?
[06:37] <osxdude|palmTX> Sonicadvanced1: You have to relly feck up your setting to make the router thing work
[06:37] <therealnanotube> Sonicadvance1: look up routing, ip forwarding. if you don't know about networking, it's hard to tell you what to do in few words. so just go and learn about it on google. :) 'how to set up a linux router' would be a good start...
[06:37] <hende> it wond let me truma now i cant even get to those settings when i reinstalled it
[06:37] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: right at the bottom "link detected:"
[06:37] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, it says "link detected: yes", among other things
[06:38] <Sonicadvance1> Aye captain
[06:38] <Madpilot> Sonicadvance1, install Firestarter, and have a look at http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[06:38] <ReDWolfLH> oh sorry I'm using IRSSI I looked away for a second, it was someone else who wanted to restart X
[06:38] <Toma-> How do you import a perl module? (.pm)
[06:38] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: nothing else to do: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces from both machines
[06:38] <hende> truma???
[06:38] <Truma1> hende:  try sudo apt-get remove beryl-* again, and then sudo apt-get install beryl-manager emerald-themes
[06:39] <osxdude|palmTX> Madpilot: Does that work on windows?
[06:39] <Madpilot> osxdude|palmTX, Firestarter? don't think so.
[06:39] <ReDWolfLH> is this CD burning problem common with Feisty?
[06:39] <robby> lol  lynx
[06:39] <kikkomanchow> o, random question , would beryl work on a crappy video card like mines?
[06:39] <robby> text browsing brings back memories
[06:39] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, on it
[06:39] <Madpilot> osxdude|palmTX, it should work with a Windows machine using the Ubuntu box to get to the net
[06:39] <hende> abort
[06:40] <Truma1> hende:  ?
[06:40] <hende> thats what i got
[06:40] <commonlyUNIQU3> banshee question for somebody...
[06:40] <Truma1> did you say "Y" after the sudo apt-get remove beryl-* ?
[06:40] <commonlyUNIQU3> are there any command-line switches for banshee to queue music?
[06:40] <Truma1> hende:  Or, try closing beryl first
[06:40] <Madpilot> commonlyUNIQU3, "man banshee" should tell you
[06:41] <Dr_willis> commonlyUNIQU3,  try banshee --help
[06:41] <commonlyUNIQU3> i set banshee as the app to open .mp3 files from nautilus
[06:41] <commonlyUNIQU3> hang on
[06:41] <Shadow6363> hey, when running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, theres some parameter you can pass to make it like start all over, any ideas what it is?
[06:41] <commonlyUNIQU3> already tried "man banshe", no man page
[06:41] <osxdude|palmTX> I wanted to do the same thing but from  a Win to Lun
[06:41] <bruenig> commonlyUNIQU3, banshee maybe
[06:42] <hende> removed and tried that apt get emeral themes did not work
[06:42] <bruenig> hende, emerald themes maybe
[06:42] <commonlyUNIQU3> Dr_willis: "banshee --help" did the trick, thanks!
[06:42] <travis> how do i change my nickname in x-chat without re-logging
[06:42] <commonlyUNIQU3> forgot to try that one when man didn't work
[06:42] <bruenig> travis, /nick newname
[06:42] <ReDWolfLH> travis /nick YourNewNIckHere
[06:42] <Truma1> hende: sudo apt-get install beryl-manager emerald-themes ?
[06:42] <commonlyUNIQU3> once again - the ubuntu community saves the day!
[06:42] <travis> thanks :)
[06:43] <Truman> Aha!
[06:43] <bruenig> commonlyUNIQU3, you should have just looked on the blogs where the ubuntu documentation is kept apparently
[06:43] <hende> got it
[06:43] <hende> its downloading
[06:43] <Truman> hende:  K
[06:43] <travis__> lol too many damn travii
[06:43] <commonlyUNIQU3> @bruenig: well, I rarely visit the IRC channels, so I guess you'll have to forgive my laziness just this once ;)
[06:44] <commonlyUNIQU3> goodnight all!
[06:44] <blazemonger> anyone in brasil?
[06:44] <bruenig> !br
[06:44] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:44] <ReDWolfLH> #ubuntu-br
[06:44] <blazemonger> iive thought abou8t retiring in brasil
[06:44] <bruenig> then you would have to use dream linux
[06:44] <ReDWolfLH> lol bruenig
[06:44] <travis__> heh
[06:45] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, almost done :P
[06:45] <Hitomaro> could the reason I was having trouble loading the ubuntu cd be because of me downloading the x86version rather than the 64bit?
[06:45] <hende> k now what
[06:45] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, here we are http://pastebin.com/942990
[06:45] <travis__> lol
[06:45] <Shadow6363> anyone know the parameter/switch?
[06:45] <Truman_> hende:  Try to start beryl-manager again -- should be under applications somewhere
[06:45] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: looking
[06:45] <blazemonger> why would i have to use dream?
[06:45] <ReDWolfLH> for what Shadow6363?
[06:45] <travis__> oh wait... thought you had other way around... would think x86 would be backwards compatible on x64
[06:45] <Hitomaro> how can I tell which is my system running under?
[06:45] <bruenig> blazemonger, brazilian distro of course
[06:45] <ReDWolfLH> the x86 is backwards compatable
[06:46] <Shadow6363> redwolflh: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, theres something you can add so it starts all over
[06:46] <ReDWolfLH> I'm running it right now
[06:46] <Hitomaro> oh
[06:46] <bruenig> x64 is backwards compatible you mean
[06:46] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, sorry that took so long, i had to go and find a usb stick because the other computer doesnt have a functional network connection with which i can pass data along :P
[06:46] <hende> ya its got a different settings menu now but how do i apply settings
[06:46] <ReDWolfLH> oh just hit ctrl-alt-backspace do it manually Shadow lol
[06:46] <mongolai> no, x86 is *forward* compatible
[06:46] <shiester_miester> and I'll be damned if i'm writing it down
[06:46] <Hitomaro> should I just stop trying to run ubuntu?
[06:46] <travis__> lol sigh
[06:46] <Truman_> hende:  You should just be able to pick what you want and then hit "quit"
[06:46] <blazemonger> oh my friend loves dreamlinux
[06:46] <blazemonger> dream isn't bad...
[06:46] <travis__> whatever backwards/forward compatible
[06:46] <Hitomaro> what are my other options?
[06:46] <ReDWolfLH> er.. so englisch isn't my strong point
[06:46] <hende> that doesnt apply them
[06:46] <bruenig> blazemonger, it is good
[06:46] <ReDWolfLH> english*
[06:46] <Truman_> hende:  After you go to "swtich window manager" and hit "beryl"
[06:46] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: I'd add in there "network <IP_ADDRESS>" under eth0 on both
[06:47] <therealnanotube> i have a little java plugin problem. please check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=489128 for details. any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated.
[06:47] <hende> its already on there
[06:47] <robby> lol he did it
[06:47] <ReDWolfLH> How can I configure my system so I recognises my DVD burner to write DVDs and CDs.. it reads them fine, just wont allow me to burn.
[06:47] <hende> truman its already on there
[06:47] <ReDWolfLH> ?
[06:47] <Truman_> hende:  k, hmm
[06:47] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, under which eth0?  its mentioned in both files numerous times
[06:48] <shiester_miester> "auto eth0" is at the start and end, and then there is also "iface eth0 inet static"
[06:48] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: under "iface eth0 inet static"
[06:48] <shiester_miester> ok
[06:48] <Truman_> hende:  what are you trying to add?
[06:48] <shiester_miester> brb
[06:49] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, I'm late to this thread.  U can't install ubuntu???
[06:49] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: then 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop" 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking start"
[06:49] <Hitomaro> MISTERTibbs, yes
[06:49] <Hitomaro> MISTERTibbs, I'm having problems running the livecd
[06:49] <hende> well i added emerald themes but i just wanted the windows effect
[06:49] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, ok, thanks a lot for your help
[06:49] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, Livecd won't even run?
[06:49] <Hitomaro> MISTERTibbs, no.. :(
[06:50] <Truman_> hende:  like the burning and stuff?
[06:50] <jerbear> is there a way for me (as a regular user, not root) to run a script on an event (suspend, resume)?
[06:50] <hende> YES
[06:50] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, and you've set your bios to detect the cd, yes??
[06:50] <hende> you know what im talking about
[06:50] <Hitomaro> MISTERTibbs, of course
[06:50] <travis__> how far do you get Hitomaro?
[06:50] <Hitomaro> MISTERTibbs, I get all sorts of errors once I pass the ubuntu main menu
[06:50] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, did you download the iso and burn it or do you have an  canonical disk
[06:50] <Truman_> hende:  if you go to beryl settings manager and then "visual effects" on that next window, do you have "animations" listed on the left?
[06:51] <Ricket> What is the shell program that easily lists and removes session startup programs? I forget the name, I know it's long and with a couple hyphens though.....
[06:51] <hende> no its emerald themes menu
[06:51] <mongolai> Hitomaro, try disabling both ACPI  and APIC
[06:51] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, i'm confused.  thought livecd wouldn't come up at all??
[06:51] <Hitomaro> yes I tried that
[06:51] <Ricket> Nevermind, I found it! It's gnome-session-remove
[06:51] <Ricket> Thanks.
[06:51] <Truman_> hende:  do you have one called beryl settings manager?
[06:51] <Ricket> exit
[06:51] <Hitomaro> mongolai
[06:51] <Ricket> oops haha
[06:51] <travis__> Hitomaro, have you tried alternate install cd?
[06:51] <Hitomaro> I typed nolistic noalic whatever that means
[06:51] <therealnanotube> Ricket: heh, i was about to say "something starting with 'gnome-session' " :)
[06:52] <hende> ya but
[06:52] <Truman_> hende:  That's where the burning and stuff is on mine
[06:52] <mongolai> Hitomaro, I mean as a kernel parameter, not in your BIOS.
[06:52] <Hitomaro> kernel?
[06:52] <Hitomaro> yeah I get fatal kernel errors
[06:52] <travis__> lol noalic and nolistic sound like kernel options to me
[06:52] <travis__> not bios settings
[06:52] <mongolai> Hitomaro, a boot parameter.
[06:52] <travis__> ouch
[06:53] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, , brb, restarting network on this computer
[06:53] <sputnike> Hey All, I need to change a Disks file system to NTFS (currently it thinks it doesn't have one), but I have files on it that I need to keep
[06:53] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, try the alternate install method.  also, you matched 32 or 64 bit version to your cd??
[06:53] <sputnike> Anyone got any ideas?
[06:53] <jerbear> is there a way for me (as a regular user, not root) to run a script on an event (suspend, resume)?
[06:53] <Hitomaro> I have no idea MISTERTibbs
[06:53] <therealnanotube> sputnike: back up files, reformat drive, put files back. :)
[06:53] <travis__> lol id just be happy if i could suspend
[06:54] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, no idea on what??
[06:54] <Hitomaro> what you meant by matching 32or 64
[06:54] <OmegaConsole> travis__: are you using NetworkManager?
[06:54] <shiester_miester> back
[06:54] <Truman_> hende: mine was in "beryl settings manager" > "visual effects" > "Animations" > then under "Close" I did "Burn" for #1 and #2
[06:54] <Frogzoo> sputnike: if you've got files on it - there's definately a file system there - before you format it as ntfs, you'll need to move your files somewhere else
[06:54] <kravlin> can anyone help me out with choosing memory for a computer or point me twords a channel that would?
[06:54] <travis__> OmegaConsole, no im configuring nic on boot
[06:54] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, ok.  there's a 32 bit version for most of us and a 64 bit version for servers.
[06:54] <Truman_> hende: And make sure animations is checked
[06:54] <Nutubuntu> kravlin,  #hardware
[06:54] <Frogzoo> travis__: you edited /etc/default/acpi-support ?
[06:55] <robby> yar balls
[06:55] <robby> tar
[06:55] <Hitomaro> ok
[06:55] <OmegaConsole> travis__: ah, cause thats often a problem for suspend/resume.
[06:55] <kravlin> nutubuntu: Thanks.
[06:55] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, i use the 32 bit and don't know all the differences.  pretty sure you need to have the correct hardware version
[06:55] <travis__> Frogzoo, nope... havent been told to edit acpi-support
[06:55] <mundungus> hello,cud someone know how to use gnokii?
[06:55] <Frogzoo> travis__: at the bottom: ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE=true
[06:55] <Hitomaro> I guess I do MISTERTibbs
[06:55] <travis__> hmm
[06:56] <Hitomaro> how does one find out their hardware settings?
[06:56] <therealnanotube> jerbear: why not just run as root, but su to your user in the script?
[06:56] <Hitomaro> version*
[06:56] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, ok.  have u tried the alternate installation method??
[06:56] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, still not working! :(
[06:56] <shiester_miester> bah!
[06:56] <travis__> Hitomaro, depends, what settings you want?
[06:56] <therealnanotube> jerbear: that way you could just add something to the systemwide suspend/resume.sh...
[06:56] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: interesting
[06:56] <Hitomaro> I've tried safemode
[06:56] <Hitomaro> thats about it
[06:56] <jerbear> therealnanotube: i gotcha. that will work
[06:56] <MISTERTibbs> !lspci
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <shiester_miester> it was working before :(
[06:56] <shiester_miester> i know! ill take the "IT Crowd" solution and turn it off and on again until it works!
[06:56] <therealnanotube> jerbear: cool :)
[06:57] <travis__> lol shiester_miester
[06:57] <shiester_miester> hey, it just might
[06:57] <shiester_miester> and when it does, I'LL be the one laughing!
[06:57] <robby> lol shiester
[06:57] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, system>Preferences>Hardware Information
[06:57] <travis__> anyone else here using xubuntu? :)
[06:57] <shiester_miester> occasionally i can get an internet connection on that computer if i restart it enough times if the modem is plugged into it
[06:58] <travis__> i cant be the only mouse here
[06:58] <Alives> anyone know how to get the fiesty livecd to pxeboot?
[06:58] <mongolai> shiester_miester, don't forget to unplug the power cord and blow in the opening!
[06:58] <klobster> why cant I have totem-xine and totem-gstreamer at the same time?
[06:58] <shiester_miester> mongolai, good idea!
[06:58] <therealnanotube> i have a little java plugin problem. please check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=489128 for details. any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated.
[06:58] <travis__> hmm for pxeboot, you'd need the floppy image
[06:58] <travis__> you cant just do the whole cd i dont think
[06:58] <Hitomaro> I'm using windows right now... I want to partition ubuntu so I can experience linux on my pc
[06:58] <Alives> oh and then i mount the iso via nfs?
[06:58] <shiester_miester> Hitomaro, welcome to ubuntu!
[06:58] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, first defrag 2X
[06:59] <Hitomaro> ok
[06:59] <shiester_miester> Hitomaro, to experience linux, all you have to do is boot from the live cd! no installation necessary
[06:59] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, dual boot or ubuntu only?
[06:59] <Frogzoo> Alives: you can pxe boot the livecd ?
[06:59] <shiester_miester> MISTERTibbs, why do you have to defrag?
[06:59] <travis__> lol he's tried booting livecd
[06:59] <travis__> he gets kernel panics
[06:59] <Hitomaro> dual boot.. but I don't mind trying ubuntu only
[06:59] <travis__> tux is shy
[06:59] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[06:59] <Hitomaro> if it'll get ubuntu installed
[06:59] <shiester_miester> heh
[06:59] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: you using eth1 for anything?
[06:59] <sputnike> Sorry had to run out quickly there... there 200gb of data on the drive, in essence, I can't back it up
[06:59] <mongolai> shiester_miester, Hitomaro is having problems getting the cd to work :(
[06:59] <MISTERTibbs> shiester_miester, hidden files are all across the disk.  moving them avoids conflicts
[06:59] <robby> lol
[07:00] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, yeah, my internet connection
[07:00] <robby> tux is shy
[07:00] <shiester_miester> MISTERTibbs, thats interesting
[07:00] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: no - you're using eth0..
[07:00] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: oh ic
[07:00] <MISTERTibbs> shiester_miester, wha'ts really puzzling is that u DON'T have to defrag linux!
[07:00] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: it needs to be on a different network though
[07:00] <travis__> its like "i dont like the way that bios just touched me... aieeeeee!!!"
[07:00] <shiester_miester> ive set eth1 to automaticaly get IP from the ISP
[07:00] <Truman_> Hitomaro: Have you tried doing that "verify disk integrity" thing when it tries to boot the ubuntu disk?  Maybe something weird happened when you were burning it
[07:01] <travis__> (kernel panic)
[07:01] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, how do i make it so that its on a different net work
[07:01] <shiester_miester> *network
[07:01] <Ubertastic> Could anyone tell me why my sound (in Ubuntu 7.04) just became extremely low quality (crackles, heavy disortion, etc)?
[07:01] <travis__> good idea truman, maybe bad cd
[07:01] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: change eth1's address <IP_ADDRESS> -> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:01] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, back up your data before messing with your system
[07:01] <Hitomaro> Truman_, the disk works perfectly fine
[07:01] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, then i won't be able to connect to the internet
[07:01] <robby> Dude tux pulls the ladies
[07:01] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, do you mean eth0?
[07:01] <Hitomaro> Truman_, I sucessfully installed ubuntu on my pc in my livingroom
[07:02] <Hitomaro> other*
[07:02] <Truman_> Hitomaro: Ah, I gotcha.
[07:02] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: or use a different network range for eth0 - your choice
[07:02] <travis__> total lack of ladies with this here penguin
[07:02] <Hitomaro> but this is the pc I use on a day-to-day basis
[07:02] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, if u want both xp and linux, you must have windows installed first.  then u can install ubuntu.  NOT the other way!
[07:02] <varustah> hey
[07:02] <Hitomaro> I have windows installed
[07:03] <gerro> Hitomaro: or you can use virtualbox to use windows inside of linux
[07:03] <Jude> Ubertastic: restart your computer if that does not help then let me know
[07:03] <gerro> Hitomaro: or you can use wine www.winehq.org to run windows programs in linux
[07:03] <Ubertastic> Jude, does ctrl + alt + backspace count?
[07:03] <travis__> alright g'night all
[07:03] <slavik> night all
[07:03] <robby> you tux must have a strange pder
[07:03] <Jude> Ubertastic: no
[07:03] <Hitomaro> yeah but I first have to be able to run live-cd. :)
[07:03] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, makes no difference :/
[07:03] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, i'll tell you what i did.  First back up all essential files, run "clean up" and defrag
[07:04] <Ludo__> hey im running ubuntu 7.04, fresh install. have a MSI MS-6852 Wifi/bluetooth adaptor. It connects to my network or says it does, but i have no internet activity
[07:04] <Ubertastic> Jude: Ok, will try. Be right back.
[07:04] <travis__> good luck Hitomaro
[07:04] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: you'll need to restart networking again
[07:04] <MISTERTibbs> !gpart
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, oh ok
[07:04] <Jude> Ubertastic: your sound card should reboot
[07:04] <mundungus> guyz,is there any other mobile application aother than gnokii?
[07:04] <varustah> can i make floating password dialog in xubuntu? onboard wont input them...
[07:04] <robby> ubotu is slacking
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is slacking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <Jude> mundungus: try ekiga s
[07:05] <unfo> hi all : I want to start contributing to one of the not-yet-OSS Sonic the Hedgehog 2-D engines.  Project Mettrix is written in portable Watcom C/C++.  The other, Retro Sonic, uses DirectX; I haven't checked if Retro Sonic works on Wine yet.  If I can make it work on Wine, is there any reason to favor Project Mettrix?
[07:05] <therealnanotube> !gparted
[07:05] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:05] <varustah> i love ubu
[07:05] <unfo> s/it/Retro Sonic
[07:05] <mundungus> Jude: k,thanx,btw, does it work with most phones as gnokii?
[07:05] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, it did something slightly different
[07:05] <Jude> yes
[07:05] <mongolai> Hitomaro, It is most likely a hardware conflict. Can you post your system specs at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/   and then provide a link here for us to look at?
[07:05] <OmegaConsole> Is python interpreter installed in ubuntu by default?
[07:05] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, then i installed ubuntu.  Installation proceeded normally.  Be careful at the parition state and make sure you understand your selections.  REALLY easy to wipe out here!
[07:05] <robby> POPCORN
[07:05] <mundungus> thanx man!
[07:05] <shiester_miester> now when i try to ping the other computer from this one it says "ping: sendmsg: operation not permitted"
[07:05] <therealnanotube> unfo: well... portable software gives that nice warm feeling. :)
[07:06] <varustah> kde i like
[07:06] <mongolai> OmegaCenti, Yes. it is
[07:06] <therealnanotube> OmegaConsole: yes it is
[07:06] <Hitomaro> mongolai, ok
[07:06] <mongolai> oops...
[07:06] <dibblego> when I boot the Feisty i386 CD, X crashes with "Fatal Server error Caught signal 11" server aborting - am I screwed?
[07:06] <unfo> therealnanotube, directX is portable as long as you have wine.
[07:06] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, I made 4 partitions: 1 very small one for boot files, 1 for the windows system, 1 for ext3 and ntfs in linux.
[07:06] <unfo> therealnanotube, I suppose though that watcom is portable to way more platforms.
[07:07] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: 'ping 192.168.0.x' ?
[07:07] <Nutubuntu> shiester_miester,  that reads as if you're firewalling your ping and not letting it through ?
[07:07] <hende> im gonna huck my laptop out the window
[07:07] <therealnanotube> unfo: heh yea, wine is kind of like the ugly sibling of portability. you can run things with it, but it doesn't make me happy. :)
[07:07] <onexused> I'm trying to set up an NFS share.  I allowed NFS through the firewall (using firestarter) both ways, and allowed the computer I'm trying to connect from using "Administration>Shared Folders", but when I try to connect (# mount -t nfs server:Shared /mount/point), I'm told "Permission denied".  What can I do about it?
[07:08] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, i changed the IP addresses on both computers...should i only have changed it on one?
[07:08] <varustah> is there a way to get onboard at the login window?
[07:08] <therealnanotube> i have a little java plugin problem. please check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=489128 for details. any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated.
[07:08] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: both ends, of course
[07:08] <shiester_miester> yeah
[07:08] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: you'd need to change the network range also
[07:08] <shiester_miester> oh, to what?
[07:08] <MISTERTibbs> hende, don't do it!\
[07:08] <unfo> dibblego, boot in Safe Graphics Mode from the boot menu
[07:09] <sputnike> Ok basically I have a 300gb drive, with 200gb of it used up storing files... I need to shrink the main partition down to 240gb and have another 60gb partition running, so I can install Windows/Linux on, however g partition tool doesn't recognise the file format, I need to change it to NTFS without loosing all my files... any ideas?
[07:09] <dibblego> unfo, tried that unsuccessfully
[07:09] <Truman_> hende: This is what Linux is all about, man
[07:09] <shiester_miester> Truman_, lol
[07:10] <unfo> dibblego, find out what's wrong and file a bug report once you do? :)
[07:10] <MISTERTibbs> sputnike, don't think it can done.  even windows won't let you change the files system AFTER you've selected it.
[07:10] <unfo> dibblego, does it work in another distro such as OpenSUSE?
[07:10] <dibblego> unfo, it seems to be quite a common and recurring problem (regression)
[07:10] <unfo> dibblego, it sadly is.
[07:10] <barnydan> windows sux
[07:10] <dibblego> unfo, the machine is running dapper right now
[07:10] <sputnike> MISTERTibbs: That's what I don't understand, I formatted it to NTFS using Windows, now it's not recognised in ubuntu...
[07:10] <berent> which is the best mobo for e6600
[07:11] <berent> asus / intel and which make?
[07:11] <sputnike> MISTERTibbs: it can see there are files on it, and I can open the files, I just can't shrink it
[07:11] <Truman_> berent:  depends what you want to do with it
[07:11] <Jude> mundungus:
[07:11] <Jude> did that help??
[07:11] <therealnanotube> sputnike: what does ubuntu say it's formatted as? (use command "sudo fdisk -l" )
[07:11] <onexused> I'm trying to connect to an NFS share.  I know I'm allowed through the firewall on the server, and there's no firewall on the client.  When I try to connect I get "Permission denied".  What am I doing wrong?
[07:11] <MISTERTibbs> sputnike, u might be ok. lemme think
[07:11] <sputnike> therealnanotube: hold on, plus it's not my primary drive at the moment, I assume that command will work for all drives?
[07:11] <Bllz> Hey all.  I cant seem to mount my FAT32 partition... i followed the instructions on the ubuntu help page, but that hasn't helped.  I own the partition as far as I can tell.  Also, I don't mind reformatting if need be
[07:11] <dibblego> unfo, I'm going to reboot and try again
[07:11] <therealnanotube> sputnike: yes, it will list all drives...
[07:12] <mundungus> Jude, nah am still googling it up,u know am connected to phone using my nokia as modem! the net is not that first
[07:12] <Bllz> so any help wouold be greatly appreciated
[07:12] <therealnanotube> sputnike: as long as they are actually connected and powered on :)
[07:12] <berent> Truman_ : I want to have the maximum comfort for a techie and economy
[07:12] <geekkit> im trying to connect to the files on my nokia phone via usb .. i found a page: http://olivierberger.com/weblog/index.php/2006/11/12/66-transfering-files-to-the-sony-ericsson-k610i-from-gnu-linux-through-usb-obex that walks through settings up obexfs  (e.g., adduser youuser fuse), then adding to fstab: /etc/fstab : obexfs#-u0 /media/phone fuse defaults,user 0 0, then mkdir /media/phone, hgrp fuse /media/phone, and finally chmod g+w /media/
[07:12] <geekkit> phone but when i click on the icon in nautilus i'm told i need super user permissions ... *or* setup permissions in udev ... i don't know how to set up the permissions for udev ...anyone know how to do this?
[07:12] <onexused> Bllz: Do you get any errors when you try mounting it?
[07:12] <mundungus> Jude,am using my nokia as modem!
[07:12] <MISTERTibbs> sputnike, double check this.  I think you have to use the windows partition manager to alter the set up.
[07:12] <Jude> k
[07:12] <varustah> can i make floating password dialog in xubuntu? onboard wont input them...
[07:12] <Bllz> onexused... yes i believe i do
[07:12] <Truman_> berent: Are you gonna SLI video cards?  What sort of RAM are you looking at?  Do you use IDE or SATA hard disks?
[07:12] <Bllz> what's the command to mount again? i'll try it real quick and let you konw what the output is
[07:13] <MISTERTibbs> sputnike, u can also find partition magic as a free download if u search on the net.
[07:13] <sputnike> therealnanotube: It says: "This doesn't look like a partition table"
[07:13] <therealnanotube> oh, wow... i guess that means something is really messed up there.
[07:13] <dampierd> any folks from down under?
[07:13] <berent> Truman_ : ge force , RAM-ddr3 atleast 1GB both pata and sata support also want wifi
[07:13] <onexused> Bllz: sudo mount <filesystem> <mount point> (where filesystem is something like /dev/sdb1 and mount point is something like /media/sdb1)
[07:13] <therealnanotube> sputnike: try booting into windows, and run a chkdisk on it
[07:14] <sputnike> MISTERTibbs: yeah the problem is, I want to install Vista on my drive again, but since running it last I used a 40gb hard drive as my primary, however Vista won't install on that drive, so I am wondering what the heck's going on...
[07:14] <sputnike> Hmm looks like I'll have to reinstall XP :(
[07:14] <therealnanotube> sputnike: ubuntu has some chkdisk-like tools on it too, but windows is less likely to mess up an ntfs partition.
[07:14] <Truman_> berent:  lol, have they even released ddr3 ram for motherboards yet?  I heard they were gonna, but I thought it was a bit further off
[07:14] <shiester_miester> sputnike, XP > Vista
[07:14] <sputnike> yeah I suppose
[07:14] <Bllz> onexused, wait... what goes in the <filesystem> part?
[07:14] <MISTERTibbs> sputnike, vista?  VISTA?  I'm officially out of this thread.  I only have XP and have NO plans to upgrade.  Good luck!
[07:14] <Bllz> sorry... someone walked me through this last time too... i'm a complete and utter noob
[07:15] <onexused> Bllz: what partition do you want to mount?
[07:15] <berent> Truman_ : me too not sure but does ddr2 will be upward compatible?
[07:15] <geekkit> anyone know how to set up udev permissions for usb under feisty?
[07:15] <Ubertastic> Jude: Same story.
[07:15] <Bllz> onexused:  it's sda3.  i only have one harddisk so whatever the default device is
[07:15] <Truman_> berent:  I doubt that the ddr2 slots will accept ddr3 ram whenever that finds its way to the market
[07:16] <sputnike> MISTERTibbs: heh, I have used Vista for a long time and am happy with it... I'm now sick of XP, and my job - I write applications in Visual Basic so I need to use Windows, but I run Ubuntu on my laptop. Sadly this senario sucks... Maybe my friend will lend me his drive to copy files accross, who knows.
[07:16] <Bllz> uh oh. onexused. i can't seem to send PMs!
[07:16] <berent> Truman_ ok lets keep it ddr2 then!
[07:16] <sputnike> meanwhile, looks like I'm using XP
[07:16] <Truman_> berent:  Aha, it looks like they've released a couple of boards
[07:16] <onexused> Bllz: >.<
[07:16] <sputnike> right see you all, I have an XP install to attend to. .
[07:16] <Truman_> berent: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06/05/pipe_dreams_six_p35-ddr3_motherboards_compared/
[07:16] <onexused> Bllz: /dev/sda3 would go first.
[07:16] <Bllz> onexused, lol you have AIM?
[07:17] <onexused> Bllz: Not lately.  I'm using gaim/pidgen right now
[07:17] <MISTERTibbs> sputnike, all I've read on Vista suggest serious issues with mounting other OS's, even Windows OS's!  Back up your backups!
[07:17] <Bllz> okay so sudo mount /dev/sda3?
[07:17] <Bllz> sorry no...
[07:17] <onexused> Bllz: what folder/directory do you want to mount it to?
[07:18] <Bllz> um. i guess in media/sda3
[07:18] <barnydan>  sudo mount /dev/sda3  /mnt/destination
[07:18] <berent> Truman_ : even that is ddr2
[07:18] <barnydan>  sudo mount /dev/sda3  /media/sda3
[07:18] <Ivis> Hello,i know this is not right chanle where ask ..... but i need a help wery much.Who listen a Dj tiesto songs ? please help abaout this
[07:18] <onexused> Bllz: If it's already created, "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/sda3"
[07:19] <Bllz> okay it looks like it succeeded silently...
[07:19] <Bllz> but i don't see an icon on my desktop
[07:19] <onexused> Bllz: Okay.  I don't know how to put one there.
[07:20] <bruenig> Bllz, look for it in /media/sda3
[07:20] <berent> Truman_ : here it is http://in.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=534 the P5KC is ultimate
[07:20] <mongolai> berent, If you go the intel route, you should get a mobo that has the new chipset (i think its P35) to future-proof yourself for the new core processors coming out.
[07:20] <therealnanotube> i have a little java plugin problem. please check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=489128 for details. any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated.
[07:20] <Bllz> oh wow... there it is
[07:20] <shiester_miester> bruenig, whast wrong with the word "folder"?
[07:20] <Bllz> i was able to open the directory, so i guess it's working?
[07:21] <berent> mongolai : but what about other features like ddr2 ddr3
[07:21] <bruenig> shiester_miester, what is a folder, it is an icon
[07:21] <shiester_miester> i thought it meant the same as "directory" ?
[07:21] <Truman_> berent: I bet those are crazy expensive
[07:21] <shiester_miester> like the "home folder"
[07:21] <onexused> Bllz: Looks like it.  Do you want it to mount automatically?
[07:21] <Bllz> so if i put stuff in that folder, it's on the partition and if i reinstall it should all be there?
[07:21] <Bllz> onexused, yes that would be great!
[07:21] <bruenig> shiester_miester, no it became that when guis had it as a folder and stupid people just said folder
[07:21] <Truman_> berent: I got a nice motherboard with the nvidia 680 chipset
[07:22] <shiester_miester> oooh ok
[07:22] <berent> Truman_ : which one
[07:22] <shiester_miester> because they used a little icon of a folder ;)
[07:22] <hende> ummm somehow i removed the tops of my windows where the close window x is how do i make it become visible again
[07:22] <Truman_> berent: umm
[07:22] <onexused> Bllz: You'll have to edit your fstab file.  $ sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:22] <mongolai> berent, most P35 boards support both ddr2 and 3, but only partly. I'd stick with ddr2 though because the net return of ddr3 is negligible
[07:22] <therealnanotube> bruenig, language evolves. it is basically a fact that 'folder' == 'directory' in common usage. no use fighting it. :)
[07:22] <bruenig> gksudo gedit
[07:22] <Truman_> berent: EVGA Nvidia 680i SE
[07:22] <berent> mongolai : are you sure?
[07:22] <onexused> bruenig: right.  I keep forgetting
[07:22] <Jude> does anyone know why does my azureus crash on startup??
[07:22] <barnydan> Directory is more linux style!
[07:23] <onexused> Bllz: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:23] <bruenig> people can use what they want, I am not that anal, but since he said folder/directory kind of reminded me of it
[07:23] <Bllz> onexused, it's open
[07:23] <Truman_> berent: Appears to be really good for SLI, got ddr2 800 ram
[07:23] <therealnanotube> bruenig: heh :)
[07:23] <Bllz> onexused, done
[07:23] <onexused> Bllz: Okay.  Hold on a second.
[07:24] <robby> bored
[07:24] <berent> Truman_ : true
[07:24] <mongolai> berent, no, not so much ;) But price is an issue, especially in the immeadiate future. If you want ddr3, then you should wait for it to become the new *de-facto* standard
[07:24] <hende> hello
[07:24] <robby> hi
[07:24] <Hitomaro> hey
[07:24] <hende> somehow i removed the task bar from my windows how do i get it back
[07:24] <berent> mongolai : i agree
[07:24] <Hitomaro> who was the person that asked me to get my system specs?
[07:24] <mongolai> Hitomaro, did you get that pastebin up?
[07:25] <onexused> Bllz: type "/dev/sda3" <tab> "/media/sda3" <tab> "auto" <tab> "umask=0000" <tab> "0 0"
[07:25] <onexused> Bllz: got it?
[07:25] <hende> !!!
[07:25] <Hitomaro> http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/8348/systemspecshitobd2.jpg
[07:25] <Truman_> berent:  I think it was only like $150, which seemed comparable to other boards in the same range; had great reviews, too
[07:25] <bruenig> ewww windows
[07:25] <Truman_> hende:  you mean in your ubuntu, or in windows itself?
[07:25] <Hitomaro> I know
[07:26] <robby> ?
[07:26] <onexused> Bllz: confirm, please?
[07:27] <Bllz> onexused. one second
[07:27] <mongolai> Hitomaro, was this a pre-built PC, and if so what make/model#
[07:27] <onexused> Bllz: ok
[07:27] <Hitomaro> not pre-built
[07:27] <Bllz> onexused, am i typing that in the console or in the fstab document?
[07:27] <Hitomaro> I buit it myself
[07:27] <Hitomaro> built*
[07:27] <onexused> Bllz: the fstab document
[07:28] <bruenig> man I forget how ugly windows is
[07:28] <Bllz> top line? does it matter where i type it?
[07:28] <mongolai> Hitomaro, and you downloaded the x86 version of ubuntu?
[07:28] <Hitomaro> yes
[07:28] <mongolai> hmmm
[07:28] <onexused> Bllz: I'd put it on the last line
[07:29] <onexused> Bllz: (a new line)
[07:29] <Bllz> onexused, done
[07:29] <Bllz> is there a tab betweent he last two zeros?
[07:29] <mongolai> Hitomaro, I'm looking up your motherboard now...   When you reboot, it should mount automatically and be writable by regular users
[07:30] <Bllz> onexused:   okay done. so do i save and exit?
[07:31] <mongolai> Hitomaro, yea I know. I'm looking for any common linux-based issues with it
[07:31] <onexused> Bllz: yes.  When you reboot, it should mount and be writable by normal users.
[07:31] <Hitomaro> oh I figured that. :) thanks
[07:31] <Lattyware> Is there any way to stop me having to disable two of my three network devices at boot to get one to work?
[07:31] <Bllz> onexused, thank you!  so now anything i put in that particular folder goes to the partition?
[07:32] <onexused> Bllz: Yes.
[07:32] <Bllz> okay thank you!
[07:32] <onexused> Bllz: If you want to write to it now, you should remount it using the umask=0000 option. "sudo umount; sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/sda3 /media/sda3"
[07:32] <TheFuzzball> Hi, I have a really big issue with Ubuntu, I just started using Ubuntu rather than Kubuntu but whenever I right-click on the desktop and select Change Background Image, I wait for a couple of seconds and a window pops up for a millisecond and then goes
[07:33] <TheFuzzball> what can I do to fix this?
[07:33] <onexused> Bllz: no problem
[07:34] <TheFuzzball> hello?
[07:34] <mongolai> Hitomaro, this is one of the first links I've found. Doesn't look too promising so far: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=160230    lemme look around a bit more
[07:35] <onexused> I'm trying to connect to an NFS share.  I know I'm allowed through the firewall on the server, and there's no firewall on the client.  When I try to connect I get "Permission denied".  What am I doing wrong?
[07:35] <danfg> where does X store the current resolution setting? /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[07:36] <Hitomaro> mongolai, not promising at all. :(
[07:36] <Truman_> Hey, I've got a problem:  When I vnc into my desktop computer, it won't respond if it's running beryl, but works fine if it's running gnome.  Is there any way to get it to automatically switch window managers when I vnc in?
[07:36] <ryan8403> ok...where can I add my server's host name in the apache.conf file? I can't find it in there
[07:36] <danfg> Truman_: is windows being used anywhere?
[07:36] <ImLukeEkblad> Hi
[07:37] <ImLukeEkblad> Yes
[07:37] <ImLukeEkblad> 90% of people that use computers use windows
[07:37] <Truman_> danfg: Nope, Ubunto>Ubuntu for me; I can't speak for the rest of the world, tho
[07:37] <onexused> unfortunately
[07:37] <danfg> Truman_: ok
[07:37] <Bllz> onexited, it mounts but i don't have write permission
[07:38] <ninix> hi, im searching someone who use KDevelop
[07:38] <ninix> i got a little problem with #define.
[07:38] <Truman_> or is there a way to get vnc to work from gnome > beryl?  because I see the original desktop, but it won't respond to my commands
[07:38] <onexused> Bllz: can you upload /etc/fstab to pastebin?
[07:38] <danfg> where is the screen resolution setting stored in ubuntu?
[07:39] <Lattyware> Is there any way to stop me having to disable two of my three network devices at boot to get one to work?
[07:39] <Hitomaro> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399362&highlight=775i65GV
[07:39] <Hitomaro> could that be the answer?
[07:39] <ImLukeEkblad> Um, I have Ubuntu, and when I installed it, i irased vista home premium and office 07.    So, whats better bout ubuntu since thats all I can use now?
[07:39] <onexused> !NFS
[07:39] <Hitomaro> I also had Kernel Panic
[07:39] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:39] <Truman_> ImLukeEkblad: It's free
[07:39] <ImLukeEkblad> Ya, i know
[07:39] <Hitomaro> @ mongolai
[07:39] <ImLukeEkblad> Besides that
[07:39] <onexused> ImLukeEkblad: no mandatory DRM
[07:40] <Truman_> ImLukeEkblad: People don't make fun of you for using it
[07:40] <ImLukeEkblad> Huh?
[07:40] <mongolai> Hitomaro, lemme check it out..
[07:40] <ImLukeEkblad> English pleas
[07:40] <bjupton1> mongoloi: thanks again for your help getting gnome working.  worked like a charm.  it wasn't that bad of a download, really
[07:40] <T-Connect> How come Doom 3 is lagging with ATI 9550 graphics card? Intel 4 3.20ghz and 2 gb of memories.
[07:41] <ryan8403> ok...where can I add my server's host name in the apache.conf file? I can't find it in there
[07:41] <James> hi all.  I love ubuntu, but it has bugs when i try to install it on a powerbook G4.  The powerbook G4 needs linux, can anyone recommend another distro i might like considering my enjoyment of Ubuntu?
[07:41] <mongolai> bjupton1, cool!! Glad it worked@
[07:41] <ImLukeEkblad> Ok
[07:41] <Hitomaro> how do I impliment that come mongolai?
[07:41] <Hitomaro> I really truely think thats the solution
[07:41] <ImLukeEkblad> Whats better about the OS,  I dont care if everyone makes fun of me and I dont care bout money.    So, whats better?
[07:42] <Bllz> onexcused, pastepin is www.pastebin.com?
[07:42] <mongolai> Hitomaro, is the onboard graphics card disabled it the BIOS?
[07:42] <T-Connect> I read that ATI drivers have some issue.
[07:42] <Truman_> ImLukeEkblad: Most programs can be installed and uninstalled with a simple command
[07:42] <Hitomaro> I have no idea
[07:42] <danfg> is 1280x1024 a valid screen resolution for vesa?
[07:42] <Truman_> ImLukeEkblad: It has a huge support base
[07:42] <ImLukeEkblad> ok
[07:42] <ImLukeEkblad> ok
[07:42] <Hitomaro> I don't even use my onboard graphics card
[07:42] <tank-man> do your own homework
[07:42] <Truman_> ImLukeEkblad: You can change anything about the OS that you want
[07:43] <ImLukeEkblad> Ok, how do I change the color of the task bar?  :)
[07:43] <mongolai> Hitomaro, do that first. You have a nice 7600 anyway!
[07:43] <Truman_> ImLukeEkblad: Provided that you know what you're doing; otherwise you can make it crash really easy
[07:43] <dudicus> what's up yall
[07:43] <ImLukeEkblad> ok
[07:43] <dudicus> crush it like a corner stone!
[07:43] <Hitomaro> how can I disable it?
[07:43] <dudicus> give me the reference
[07:43] <Truman_> ImLukeEkblad: You'd have to ask someone else about that; I'm just beginning to get used to Ubuntu myself
[07:43] <robby> LOL Bum Fights
[07:43] <Hitomaro> system bios?
[07:44] <ImLukeEkblad> ok
[07:44] <onexused> ImLukeEkblad: right click it > properties > background tab.  Check the radio button that says "solid color" and choose the color.  Click close.  (If you're using gnome)
[07:44] <mongolai> Hitomaro, I don't know exactly. Go into the CMOS/BIOS  settings when you reboot...
[07:44] <mongolai> Hitomaro, yea
[07:44] <maxsoft> hi all. how to see the folder installationn of an application? than k you
[07:44] <James> I like Ubuntu, but need to use another distro for another purpose.  Can anyone recommend a similar distro?
[07:44] <Bllz> onexcused, nevermind. i think i figured out the problem! typographical error :-)
[07:44] <onexused> James: PCLinuxOS is supposed to be easy to use, also.
[07:45] <mongolai> James, ubuntu is based on debian, so that would probably be the most similar
[07:45] <onexused> Bllz: glad to hear you fixed it.
[07:45] <James> okay, thanks
[07:45] <Fathefner> does anyone know about mbr grubs
[07:45] <Hitomaro> the thing is.. I think I have the same problem as the user who posted on the board, and some other user gave the solution which worked for the user who had the problem.
[07:45] <Hitomaro> :/
[07:45] <Fathefner> and how to remove them
[07:45] <danfg> i edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf and added "1280x1024" resolutions, but the option doesn't show up in System > Preferences > Screen Resolution even after restarting X. wtf else do i need?
[07:45] <Truman_> danfg: What graphics card do you have
[07:45] <mongolai> Hitomaro, well, at least that's promising, no?!
[07:45] <Hitomaro> :)
[07:45] <Bllz> onexcused. i'll check in if that doesnt fix it. lol
[07:46] <paganjew> danfg, are you using nvidia
[07:46] <Hitomaro> yeah but I don't know how to enter the code
[07:46] <Hitomaro> do I just press f6
[07:46] <danfg> Truman_: i'm running it under QEMU, it's set to vesa
[07:46] <T-Connect> Everyone read this? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=735&num=1
[07:46] <Hitomaro> then enter that?
[07:46] <onexused> Bllz: Okay.
[07:46] <paganjew> T-Connect, why.
[07:46] <Truman_> danfg: What's physically installed on the computeR?
[07:47] <T-Connect> Talk about ATI issue.
[07:47] <mongolai> Hitomaro, first disable the on-board graphics in the BIOS, then just try the live-cd again.
[07:47] <paganjew> ok, i use nvidia not so relevent
[07:47] <danfg> Truman_: nvidia fx5200
[07:47] <Hitomaro> ok.. I'll try that.
[07:47] <Hitomaro> brb
[07:47] <Hitomaro> I hope
[07:47] <ImLukeEkblad> How do I got a higher resolution  that 1024 bye  768  ?
[07:47] <paganjew> danfg, me too
[07:47] <danfg> paganjew: yay
[07:47] <danfg> :)
[07:47] <Truman_> danfg: Did you install the nvidia-glx driver?
[07:48] <T-Connect> How fast the grphics with Nvidia?
[07:48] <paganjew> danfg, yay
[07:48] <T-Connect> On Linux
[07:48] <danfg> Truman_: the question is: would QEMU support it/know how to deal with it?
[07:48] <danfg> Truman_: i can install it, i've done it before once. ages ago
[07:48] <paganjew> i personally hope many of us will begin to use open source gpu but that will only happen in a few years
[07:48] <Truman_> danfg:  That's a very good question; I don't have any experience with QEMU, but if it's virtualizing all of ubuntu, I dunno why not
[07:48] <berent> Truman_ what about this?
[07:48] <ImLukeEkblad> Guys.   Question:    How do I got a higher resolution  that 1024 bye  768  ?        <<<
[07:49] <berent> Truman_ what about this : http://www.ciao.co.uk/ASUS_P5B_MX_WiFi_AP__6623659#productdetail
[07:49] <danfg> Truman_: ok i'll install it then, if my computer explodes, i'll blame you!
[07:49] <Truman_> danfg: Alright; just warn me before you start blaming, and I'll change my nick
[07:49] <danfg> will do
[07:49] <hende> ok can anyone help me with beryl
[07:50] <ImLukeEkblad> I can'
[07:50] <Truman_> berent: Lemme look
[07:50] <defrysk> hende, /j #ubuntu-effects
[07:50] <hende> i have the taskbar which is the manager right how do i get the actual program
[07:50] <T-Connect> Is Ubuntu made to run on Core 2 Duo only?
[07:50] <onexused> ImLukeEkblad: Have you added 1280x1024 to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[07:50] <ImLukeEkblad> um
[07:50] <hende> ?
[07:51] <bruenig> T-Connect, it can run on nearly any processor
[07:51] <ImLukeEkblad> Go to the package maneger and type beryl
[07:51] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and provide the link here so others can look at it
[07:51] <Truman_> berent: It looks alright, only two slots for RAM
[07:51] <hende> done that it didnt help
[07:51] <paganjew> does anyone use sqlite for anything, i mean personally use it
[07:51] <Vaske_Car> how to install QuickTime 7 plugin for Firefox?
[07:51] <T-Connect> I don't think Linux run as fast as XP on the grpahics.
[07:51] <ImLukeEkblad> mongolai:    Huh?
[07:52] <bruenig> Vaske_Car, sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[07:52] <onexused> /quit: Leaving
[07:52] <onexused> oops
[07:52] <paganjew> T-Connect, i use the command line most of the time anyways
[07:52] <bruenig> T-Connect, you are wrong
[07:52] <shiester_miester> hey guys, is it easy to print from ubuntu with a canon pixma ip1000?
[07:52] <paganjew> T-Connect, and i agree with bruenig
[07:52] <Vaske_Car> bruenig, I have that but it does not play, file have extension .mp4 and on the site they said that it need quicktime 7
[07:52] <bruenig> Vaske_Car, link
[07:53] <shiester_miester> ive never printed anything from ubuntu, how do i go about setting it up?
[07:53] <T-Connect> How come DOOM 3 run fine on XP and not on Linux?
[07:53] <shiester_miester> T-Connect, doom 3 runs fine for me
[07:53] <bruenig> shiester_miester, system>administration>printing
[07:53] <shiester_miester> actually it runs better :P
[07:53] <paganjew> T-Connect, because it is somewhat emulated
[07:53] <bruenig> shiester_miester, or localhost:631 in browser
[07:53] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, hit alt+f2. In the prompt enter gksudo gedit   then enter your password, if it asks.  Then with gedit open /etc/X11/xorg.conf....
[07:53] <shiester_miester> paganjew, no you use ID's linux binaries
[07:53] <shiester_miester> ID software made different binaries for it specifically to run on linux
[07:53] <dannyx84> hi
[07:53] <ImLukeEkblad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28758/
[07:54] <paganjew> shiester_miester, even if it is ID's linux binaries it is meant to run on windows and i think it makes a difference.
[07:54] <shiester_miester> no, its not
[07:54] <shiester_miester> they are binaries made SPECIFICALLY for linux
[07:54] <shiester_miester> made to run on linux
[07:54] <shiester_miester> its not emulated
[07:54] <T-Connect> Doom 3 doesn't get normal speed with Linux here.  No, follow the instructions about 20 lines up^^ let me nkow when you've gotten that far.
[07:55] <shiester_miester> paganjew, what?
[07:55] <paganjew> assume = ass out of you and me
[07:55] <bruenig> T-Connect, that is a bad port, that is not the fault of the operating systems kernel which is far more supportive of lower end hardware than windows is
[07:55] <shiester_miester> oh
[07:55] <shiester_miester> lol
[07:55] <shiester_miester> thast so cheesy -_-
[07:55] <bruenig> that abbreviation doesn't even work
[07:55] <bruenig> aoofyam
[07:55] <Jud2> my azureus keeps crashing on startup
[07:55] <paganjew> exactly the lower end stuff, linux is just as good
[07:55] <Truman_> Does anyone have any ideas for this:   When I vnc into my desktop computer, it won't respond if it's running beryl, but works fine if it's running gnome.  Is there any way to get it to automatically switch window managers when I vnc in?
[07:55] <berent> Truman_ does any graphic card has a inbuild TV tuner in it
[07:56] <Truman_> berent:  I have no idea there
[07:56] <shiester_miester> bruenig, the "add printer" dialog doesnt have my printer model in it :(
[07:56] <bruenig> not just as good, far far better
[07:56] <bruenig> shiester_miester, canon is near impossible from what I understand
[07:56] <shiester_miester> =(
[07:56] <bruenig> bruenig, hp is good though, go get one
[07:56] <T-Connect> So Doom 3 port for Linux is bad. I see now. Maybe I need to install the game on XP then.
[07:56] <ImLukeEkblad> mongolai:    k?
[07:56] <berent> Truman_ i heard some USB is there that can do it
[07:56] <paganjew> Truman_, sure because you can change the window manager in the command line you should give it a script before signing in
[07:56] <shiester_miester> i have an ip1000, would it stand a chance of working if i chose ip2000 from the list?
[07:56] <ImLukeEkblad> mongolai: i'm that far now
[07:56] <shiester_miester> or something else altogether?
[07:56] <Jud2>
[07:57] <bruenig> linuxprinting.org
[07:57] <robby> lol
[07:57] <T-Connect> Thanks for clear this up.
[07:57] <robby> port
[07:57] <shiester_miester> theres nothing bad about it
[07:57] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, now copy and paste that text into a new pastebin. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/     provide the new link here.
[07:57] <Truman_> paganjew: How do you open the terminal if I can't interact with the remote computer while it's in beryl?
[07:57] <ImLukeEkblad> wait
[07:57] <paganjew> Truman_, can you sign in ssh?
[07:57] <ImLukeEkblad> I opened that text thing
[07:57] <ImLukeEkblad> then i paist that stuff there?
[07:57] <Truman_> paganjew: Ah, I dunno
[07:58] <paganjew> Truman_, that would be a way
[07:58] <Smerity> Truman_, it may also be worth trying to VNC into it as I think that's on for Ubuntu by default
[07:58] <bur[n] er> vnc is not on by default
[07:58] <Smerity> My mistake ^_^
[07:58] <paganjew> Truman_, if you can make an id that is running metacity or whatever for vnc only that would be a way
[07:58] <bur[n] er> installed, not on :)
[07:58] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, Yea, you opened /etc/X11/xorg.conf? if you did, copy and paste that into a new pastebin  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and provide the link here
[07:59] <ImLukeEkblad> I opened what????
[07:59] <bruenig> lol
[07:59] <Jude> hello
[07:59] <bruenig> hey jude
[07:59] <paganjew> Truman_, you there?
[07:59] <Vaske_Car> bruenig, check pm
[07:59] <Truman_> paganjew: Sorry, yeah
[08:00] <bruenig> don't make it bad
[08:00] <paganjew> Truman_, so what about the special id for vnc login?
[08:00] <bruenig> Vaske_Car, nothing
[08:00] <ImLukeEkblad> mongolai:  wait,   All i did was opened that text thing, thats it
[08:00] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, do like you did before but instead of pasting the file name to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  paste the *contents* of the file
[08:00] <Truman_> paganjew: I was reading up on how to SSH in; how would I go about setting up a special id?  I thought it just went straight to whatever was currently running on the remote computer
[08:00] <ImLukeEkblad> there are no contents
[08:01] <robby> Just write a script for ImLuke to run that pipes the data from the file to a txtor something
[08:01] <ImLukeEkblad> its a blank page
[08:01] <Hitomaro> :(
[08:01] <paganjew> Truman_, when you sign in you would ask for a special id, for instance create an id like "VNC" on your computer for sigining in vnc style
[08:01] <paganjew> Truman_, look at SSH its worth it
[08:01] <Hitomaro> mongolai
[08:01] <mongolai> Hitomaro, no good so far?
[08:01] <Hitomaro> I still get the same errors
[08:02] <Hitomaro> http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/6774/125errorshitood3.jpg
[08:02] <Truman_> paganjew: Alright; is SSH just command-line stuff, or does it do the graphical interface, too?
[08:02] <bur[n] er> paganjew: there is no user for vnc
[08:02] <Hitomaro> thats a screenshot of my errors
[08:02] <mongolai> Hitomaro, you should download the alternate cd and try that. then we can get X working later.
[08:02] <paganjew> Truman_, it is command line and it does GUI stuff graphical user interface stuff ie gnome
[08:02] <bur[n] er> tunnelling vnc through ssh is a good idea :)
[08:02] <mongolai> Hitomaro, I'm looking at that...NOW
[08:02] <ImLukeEkblad> :-/
[08:02] <paganjew> Truman_, bur[n] er is right
[08:02] <bur[n] er> Hitomaro: try the "check cd for errors" ?
[08:02] <Truman_> paganjew: K, cool .. I think I found an article on the internets that'll help me out
[08:03] <paganjew> Truman_, good it may take a while to set it up, its a little tricky
[08:03] <shiester_miester> hey guys, what was the name of the software that u can use to run windows within linux?
[08:03] <Hitomaro> lol I labeled by image "Errors Hito" now it's "errorshit"
[08:03] <T-Connect> Doom 3 and Quake 4 mpdemo is remove. I'm moving those onto xp.
[08:03] <bruenig> !virtualization
[08:03] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[08:03] <macogw> shiester_miester: virtualbox
[08:04] <T-Connect> =D
[08:04] <mongolai> bur[n] er, Hitomaro has a well documented problem with his motherboard
[08:04] <shiester_miester> macogw, thanks
[08:04] <paganjew> shiester_miester, qemu, vmware, virtual box, wine
[08:04] <bruenig> there are tons
[08:04] <Truman_> aha, and another for vnc over ssh .. I love the internet
[08:04] <shiester_miester> paganjew, i meant run the windows operating system
[08:04] <bruenig> vmware virtualbox, qemu, virtualpc
[08:04] <shiester_miester> not just run windows applications
[08:04] <paganjew> Truman_, :)
[08:04] <ImLukeEkblad> Guys
[08:04] <macogw> sorry about the freakout earlier guys
[08:04] <anandanbu> How to install and run the compiz-fusion
[08:04] <ImLukeEkblad> Waiting...
[08:04] <bruenig> anandanbu, #ubuntu-effects
[08:04] <shiester_miester> anandanbu, ask in #opencompositing
[08:04] <Hitomaro> I think the solution was in that thread
[08:04] <T-Connect> Anything neww comming to Ubuntu?
[08:04] <shiester_miester> bruenig, ubuntu effects isnt compiz-fusion, doesnt it use an older version of compiz?
[08:05] <paganjew> compiz such a waiste of cpu
[08:05] <paganjew> owell just my preferences
[08:05] <shiester_miester> paganjew, no way, its got so many useful features
[08:05] <paganjew> shiester_miester, yes ?
[08:05] <ImLukeEkblad> Is anyone still helping me?
[08:05] <shiester_miester> some of them are just useless eye candy, but some are really good
[08:05] <bruenig> shiester_miester, ubuntu-effects is anything that deals with destop effects
[08:05] <bruenig> desktop*
[08:05] <anandanbu> shiester_miester: but that doesn't help me out
[08:05] <paganjew> shiester_miester, for instance?
[08:05] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[08:05] <Ivis> hi, i know this is not right chanel to ask but i need a help please.... i need a people who listen dj tiesto
[08:05] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, just a minute
[08:05] <ImLukeEkblad> ok
[08:05] <shiester_miester> anandanbu, if you ask them, they will help you
[08:05] <bruenig> I still use beryl and probably will for quite some time
[08:05] <macogw> i was having the segfaultiness for hours about a month ago and the ubiquity people told me to redo it and get logs with --debug for ubiquity, but when i tried, it went so *death* that i got told i didnt have permission to use vi or gedit or nano to look at the logs, and no way to save or copy them or anything in order to report the bug with any useful sort of info, so there was a very annoying circle ensuing
[08:06] <shiester_miester> paganjew, like the ability to invert the colours of a window...i use that all the time
[08:06] <paganjew> shiester_miester, lol
[08:06] <shiester_miester> paganjew, being able to have an unlimited amount of desktop space
[08:06] <paganjew> shiester_miester, i like bash shell more than anything
[08:06] <bruenig> unlimited desktop space?
[08:06] <shiester_miester> being able to group windows together into a single tabbed window
[08:06] <anandanbu> shiester_miester: who should i ask
[08:06] <paganjew> shiester_miester, just my preferences
[08:06] <shiester_miester> well ok not UNLIMITED
[08:06] <shiester_miester> but a freaking LOT
[08:06] <bruenig> you have the same amount with or without effects
[08:06] <shiester_miester> true
[08:06] <bruenig> in fact without effects you can have much more
[08:07] <shiester_miester> good point, bruenig
[08:07] <bruenig> you can like 12 workspaces
[08:07] <Hitomaro> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399362&highlight=775i65GV
[08:07] <macogw> negative and scale are some of the awesomeness of desktop effects
[08:07] <shiester_miester> uhh you can have heaps more than that anyway
[08:07] <paganjew> shiester_miester, its a matter of control and the command line can do it better and faster than nautilus, etc.
[08:07] <Hitomaro> hey mongolai
[08:07] <macogw> i think you can have up to 24 or 32 with desktop effects
[08:07] <macogw> not just 12
[08:07] <Hitomaro> I think thats the solution
[08:07] <shiester_miester> yeah scale is great
[08:07] <Hitomaro> whatever "todoporron" wrote
[08:07] <bruenig> macogw, you would be able to have an equal amount, but for the cube, you need four yes
[08:07] <shiester_miester> paganjew, yeah except on the command line...you are on a command line.  good luck using things that need a mouse
[08:07] <bruenig> command line is amazing, I use that more than about anything
[08:07] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, ok, hit alt+f2. in the prompt copy and paste this:     gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:08] <macogw> negative is great for people (like me) who think white backgrounds (like on websites) are evil and feel too much like staring at a lightbulb
[08:08] <mongolai> Hitomaro, here in this channel!
[08:08] <mongolai> ?
[08:08] <shiester_miester> although you pretty much have to use the command line in linux anyway
[08:08] <Hitomaro> hey todd
[08:08] <Hitomaro> lol
[08:08] <shiester_miester> hey just thinking on that...why hasn't nobody ever tried to improve the command line?
[08:08] <bruenig> command line is so much better than no command line
[08:08] <bruenig> imiprove, how?
[08:08] <shiester_miester> its like the most commonly used feature of the whole OS
[08:08] <Yasumoto> ... improve it?
[08:08] <shiester_miester> and yet its just the same as its always been
[08:08] <macogw> because the command line is already awesome
[08:08] <paganjew> shiester_miester, they have there are a number of projects that use the command line with gnome
[08:08] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: it doesn't get improved all the time?
[08:09] <macogw> most of what you use on it isnt part of the command line, it's just the command line interface of a myriad number of programs
[08:09] <bruenig> shiester_miester, how can you improve on it, what else can you do
[08:09] <Hitomaro> I don't see todd anywhere
[08:09] <Hitomaro> ..
[08:09] <Yasumoto> 23:08:31  shiester_miester: hey just thinking on that...why hasn't nobody ever tried to improve the command line?
[08:09] <shiester_miester> bruenig, i dunno :P im not one of those people who implements radical ideas
[08:09] <paganjew> shiester_miester, the cli with gnome is really unbeatable in my opinion
[08:09] <mongolai> Hitomaro, but you think you've found a solution?
[08:09] <Yasumoto> sry X_X
[08:09] <Hitomaro> I don't know how to execute it
[08:09] <bruenig> shiester_miester, the command line is so straight forward and simple, I can't imagine what else you can do
[08:09] <Yasumoto> i meant
[08:10] <shiester_miester> i dunno
[08:10] <Yasumoto> it's the kind of thing that grows on you, and makes more sense after use
[08:10] <shiester_miester> well think about the difference in window managers between like, windows 95 and ubuntu with compiz-fusion
[08:10] <Yasumoto> at first, i had no idea how to use anything, but eventually I realized how different commands can be used together and such
[08:10] <bruenig> bash might could use some advances like fall through case statements and stuff so you don't have to use work arounds like nested case statements in for loops and what not, but the shell itself is amazing
[08:10] <anandanbu> how do install and run compiz-fusion in ubuntu 7.04
[08:10] <paganjew> shiester_miester, i use gnome-core and with gnome-terminal for an awesome experience - at least how i see it
[08:10] <ImLukeEkblad> mongolai: what do I do with all the text?
[08:10] <shiester_miester> and then think about the differences between ms-dos command line and ubuntu command line...there isnt a huge amount of difference in functionality
[08:10] <bruenig> shiester_miester, windows managers are pointless
[08:11] <shiester_miester> jeez guys, im not knocking the terminal
[08:11] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: there is tooo!!!
[08:11] <bruenig> !codecs > Vaske_Car
[08:11] <bruenig> you have tabs
[08:11] <bruenig> you have color
[08:11] <bruenig> you have tab completion
[08:11] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: tab-completion, colors, better apps...  screen, ssh
[08:11] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, now copy and paste that to a new pastebin here :   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:11] <shiester_miester> true, i didnt say its identical
[08:11] <bruenig> you have what amounts to a full fledged interpreted language almost
[08:11] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, be sure to provide the link here
[08:11] <shiester_miester> but compare the difference between the user interfaces and there is MASSIVE difference
[08:11] <shiester_miester> and there is less so in command lines
[08:11] <paganjew> shiester_miester, tab completion, and built-ins make the 2 almost completely different
[08:11] <bruenig> gui is pointless and wasteful
[08:12] <matt__> bruenig: you have tab completion, and can have colors, in the dos command line.
[08:12] <oscarello> hi guys, is there anybody from Finland here? I want to ask you some questions...
[08:12] <bruenig> it is the most wasteful thing that exists
[08:12] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: i'd argue there are huge ;)  being someone that uses a term on a daily basis
[08:12] <shiester_miester> bruenig, thats a bit of an exaggeration...
[08:12] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: you think it's less because you use a gui everyday
[08:12] <paganjew> :)
[08:12] <shiester_miester> bur[n] er, you cant use linux and not have to use the terminal on a daily basis :P
[08:12] <bruenig> shiester_miester, what good is it, graphics is good, I like graphics but as an interface I hardly use it
[08:12] <matt__> and pretty much everything that can be done in shell can be done in batch files.
[08:12] <bruenig> hardly
[08:12] <ImLukeEkblad> mongolai:      http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28759/    There we go
[08:12] <paganjew> its a matter of automation shiester_miester
[08:13] <matt__> the difference is that linux lets you do anything that can be done on the system from a shell, which ISN'T possible in windows.
[08:13] <bruenig> matt__, you can write an entire package manager in bash
[08:13] <matt__> or zsh.  :)
[08:13] <bur[n] er> matt__: but it's a pain in the ass to set ;)  plus, in Ubuntu, we can just type "firefox blahblah" from a term and it runs... or "<insertanyapp>" where on windows you cannot unless it's in your path, and nothing is every in your path that's worth $.02
[08:13] <shiester_miester> yeah bruenig, maybe for you, but for almost everyone else who isnt a pro at [insert OS here] , you really do need an intuitive way of interacting, and command lines are NOT intuitive, at all
[08:13] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, ok great! Now lemme look at that for a minute!
[08:13] <bruenig> mkdir is pretty intuitive
[08:13] <bruenig> make directory
[08:14] <bur[n] er> godlygeek: you beat me to my point ;)
[08:14] <Hitomaro> How do I "Edit your /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file:"
[08:14] <Anubis> does ubuntu support usb wireless cards?
[08:14] <shiester_miester> its only intuitive after you know about it
[08:14] <shiester_miester> and thats kinda not what the definition of intuitive is
[08:14] <paganjew> the cli interface is intuitive but its much more sensitive than most people are ready for
[08:14] <bur[n] er> Hitomaro: "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[08:14] <shiester_miester> command lines require you to already know what you want before you do it
[08:14] <olkalau> shiester_miester, can you please help me with installing a scanner. Model Benq Scanner 5000BL.  You haven't installed a different graphics card?
[08:15] <bruenig> what does file have to do with quit
[08:15] <godlygeek> paganjew: i meant to send that last one to shiester_miester ... *shrug*
[08:15] <shiester_miester> bruenig, there are components of it that arent, of course, but overall its far more so than a command line where there is NOTHING to go by
[08:15] <Hitomaro> bur[n] er
[08:15] <bur[n] er> godlygeek: point taken :)  I still can't work my way around a DOS term like I can a gnome-term
[08:15] <ImLukeEkblad> mongolai: nope,
[08:16] <Hitomaro> where do I have to be in order to execute that
[08:16] <bruenig> shiester_miester, it isn't intuitive at all
[08:16] <shiester_miester> bah
[08:16] <paganjew> godlygeek, its all the same, people get the wrong idea about the cli so i am all into getting converts however its done
[08:16] <bur[n] er> Hitomaro: alt+f2
[08:16] <godlygeek> shiester_miester: you're wrong.  man, apropos, which, etc are your best friends.
[08:16] <shiester_miester> so why does everyone like using them?
[08:16] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, Do you have a wide-screen monitor?
[08:16] <olkalau> shiester_miester, can you help?
[08:16] <bruenig> shiester_miester, double click? seriously?
[08:16] <bruenig> shiester_miester, what is this double click
[08:16] <bur[n] er> Hitomaro: if you have no gui and only term, you can use nano instead of gedit
[08:16] <Jude> can anyone tell me some good torrent clients??
[08:16] <bruenig> Jude, utorrent
[08:16] <bur[n] er> Jude: deluge-torrent!!!
[08:16] <Anoninon> Jude: Get wine + utorrent.
[08:16] <ImLukeEkblad> Mongolai:  Yesh,  Thats the problem, cuz i'm use to higher wider rez
[08:16] <shiester_miester> why is it that every single popular OS spends a lot of time working on the UI?
[08:16] <bur[n] er> Jude: getdeb.net has deluge .deb files
[08:16] <hanasaki> trying to write an ISO using right click and wirte to disk... nautilus is saying "error writting to disk" there are no details shown
[08:16] <Hitomaro> I'll try that
[08:16] <olkalau> paganjew, can you please help me with installing a scanner. Model Benq Scanner 5000BL. Im running Ubuntu 6.06
[08:16] <shiester_miester> if the command-line is so much more intuitive, they should just use that instead, right?
[08:16] <ImLukeEkblad> mongolai: hold on, i need to brush my teeth,  brb
[08:16] <Hitomaro> brb
[08:17] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, ok
[08:17] <paganjew> shiester_miester, because the sparkle sells but it isn't really useful
[08:17] <shiester_miester> i know! lets make a release of ubuntu that is just a command line
[08:17] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: becaust it's the 21st century :)
[08:17] <godlygeek> i barely use GUI's...  i use gui's exclusively for webbrowsing and instant messaging.
[08:17] <paganjew> shiester_miester, bad ass
[08:17] <godlygeek> shiester_miester: there is one.  server.
[08:17] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: ubuntu-server
[08:17] <olkalau> paganjew, can you please help me with installing a scanner. Model Benq Scanner 5000BL. Im running Ubuntu 6.06
[08:17] <Anoninon> godlygeek: what irc client do you use ?
[08:17] <shiester_miester> no, its because most people need to use their computers! and they cant if its just a command line
[08:17] <godlygeek> irssi
[08:17] <bruenig> shiester_miester, that means nothing, either something is intuitive or it isn't whether OSes work on it means nothing
[08:17] <paganjew> shiester_miester, or what used to be nubuntu
[08:17] <Lo_Pan> irssi
[08:17] <Anoninon> same here
[08:17] <hanasaki> how do i burn an iso under gnome
[08:17] <hanasaki> ?
[08:17] <bruenig> shiester_miester, linux has the flashiest gui out there and it is bottom of the barrel
[08:17] <godlygeek> shiester_miester: i do much more in the terminal than i do in the gui.  gui's are so slow.
[08:17] <bur[n] er> hanasaki: double-click it ;)
[08:18] <Anoninon> hanasaki: use cdrecord from the command line : google cdrecord burn iso
[08:18] <olkalau> paganjew, can you please help me with installing a scanner. Model Benq Scanner 5000BL. Im running Ubuntu 6.06
[08:18] <defrysk> hanasaki, right click the iso select burn to disk
[08:18] <hanasaki> bur[n] er: that opens the archive manager
[08:18] <shiester_miester> bruenig, but thats not because of the gui, thats because of the popularity and ubiquity of windows
[08:18] <bur[n] er> wtf, cdrecord from command line?!??!?!  that's ridonkulous
[08:18] <paganjew> hanasaki, just right click and it should let you burn it, or use cdrecord in the command line :)
[08:18] <bruenig> shiester_miester, that is my response to you then
[08:18] <hanasaki> defrysk: that gives "error writting to disk"
[08:18] <bur[n] er> hanasaki: right click, write to cd ;)
[08:18] <bruenig> cdrecord name.iso
[08:18] <bruenig> yeah hard