[07:15] <dr_willis> c64 geos! ;)
[07:15] <LikwidNarkotix> startx ?
[07:15] <histo> [Saint]: because the alternatives are horrible
[07:16] <l057c0d3r> hey now Saint...  we were all new at one point in time
[07:16] <histo> Grimhound: Why did you want to restart XFCE in the first place what was the problem? I think that is your answer as to why you are having issues.
[07:16] <l057c0d3r> and histo windows 7 was not that bad actually
[07:16] <l057c0d3r> they've made great imporvements
[07:16] <histo> l057c0d3r: then /j #windows
[07:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: blech, are you trolling? you must be trolling *chuckle*
[07:16] <histo> l057c0d3r: Yes the adware and viruses are wonderful
[07:17] <l057c0d3r> hey i didnt say that....
[07:17] <jacob_> Don't i use the sudo rm command now?
[07:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: yeah, on the right file.
[07:17] <l057c0d3r> as a system its not bad though.. its the fact that the common user has no idea how to keep them clean.... people like to just "oh look free smilies:
[07:17] <histo> l057c0d3r: It's insecure and offtopic
[07:18] <l057c0d3r> sorry
[07:18] <histo> s/insecure/unsecure/
[07:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: the biggest risk to a system is between the keyboard and chair, not in the machine.
[07:18] <jacob_> This would be the correct file right? jacob-HP-2000-Notebook-PC:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-wrapper-ppa-quantal.list
[07:18]  * l057c0d3r hands histo a chill pill....
[07:18] <l057c0d3r> k back to what i was doing
[07:18] <l057c0d3r> yes jacob_
[07:18] <dr_willis> jacob_:  if you are in the same direcgtory as the file you  dont need the full path
[07:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: you would not need all that in front, just the file name
[07:19] <[Saint]> My SO still occasionally gets tricked, whilst using Ubuntu, by flashing Aero-themes "You have a virus! Fix it at www.virusriddensite.com" popups :)
[07:19] <dr_willis> jacob_:  use 'ls' to see whats in the directory
[07:19] <[Saint]> Its human. I guess.
[07:19] <shubbar> I connected the SPDIF to the display card, but still not getting sound from the HDMI-to-HDMI cable
[07:19] <histo> jacob_: yes or you could sudo find /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ -iname skype -exec rm {} \;
[07:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: and that is far more than he needed. stuff like that scares folk away from linux
[07:20] <l057c0d3r> shubbar have you went into the sound settings and selected it..
[07:20] <l057c0d3r> you have to select the hdmi output
[07:20] <l057c0d3r> it does not auto switch over.
[07:20] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: but easier for them to just copy and paste
[07:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: copypasta is windows mentality. better to learn.
[07:20] <jacob_> it doesn't give me the directory
[07:20] <shubbar> I also set the sound output device to Internal SPDIF
[07:20]  * [Saint] frowns
[07:20] <one> Ubuntu: I was used to adding a shell script in the /etc/init.d/ directory to invoke a binary on startup. Is there anything special about 12.10 that I should know, uch as this systemV stuff?
[07:20] <[Saint]> teching cpoy+paste == bad.
[07:20] <l057c0d3r> yeah but histo's line if copy pasted would work wonders
[07:20] <[Saint]> *teaching, even.
[07:21] <histo> jacob_: pwd  will show you what directory you are in.
[07:21] <l057c0d3r> yeah hers a nice loop for you to copy :{}]{}{l;
[07:21] <shubbar> Any advice on how to get sound with HDMI output?
[07:21] <l057c0d3r> well thats not really it. but dont try it
[07:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: you are evil, lol.
[07:21] <histo> jacob_: cd /path/to/directory/you/want   so cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   will change directory to the proper one. then you can sudo rm skype<tab>   press the tab key for auto completion.
[07:21] <jacob_> /etc/apt/sources.list.d$ pwd /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[07:21] <geomyidae> That's a good way to get banned or booted from #ubuntu
[07:21] <[Saint]> shubbar: you probably missed it, but were given an answer.
[07:22] <geomyidae> also, that doesn't look right anyway
[07:22] <[Saint]> You actually need to tell your system to use the HDMI out for sound.
[07:22] <l057c0d3r> that's because its not right
[07:22] <histo> jacob_: pwd by itself nothing after it. IT wil print out the directory you are in. Print Working Directory  pwd
[07:22] <l057c0d3r> i would not copy a working bomb here.. i like helping peeps
[07:22] <histo> !who | geomyidae
[07:23] <[Saint]> shubbar: "Sound Settings"; 'play sound through'; select your output
[07:23] <subcool> histo, back- finally
[07:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r: heh, nothin like a fork bomb to ruin your day. I did it in a vm once just to see it work
[07:23] <histo> l057c0d3r: What areyou talking about? doens't he want to remove the skypeblah.conf?
[07:23] <histo> subcool: Yes
[07:23] <one> How do I invoke a binary at boottime?
[07:23] <subcool> ok- so where were we?
[07:23] <histo> one: Which binary?
[07:23] <dr_willis> one a binary that does what exactly? /etc/rc.local is commonly used
[07:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: add it to the startup applications.
[07:23] <subcool> histo, how do i get the ball rolling
[07:24] <histo> subcool: You were going to try installing 12.10 because it has lvm built in
[07:25] <histo> subcool: What happened with that?
[07:25] <[Saint]> wouldn't https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM be better than "upgrade your OS"?
[07:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> especially since 12.04 has 5-year support as opposed to 12.10's 1.5 years?
[07:26] <shubbar> In the Sound setting, there are two option: Digital SPDIF Out and Analog. Neither worked
[07:26] <histo> [Saint]: He is having trouble even mounting lvm from the 12.04 liveusb. Then he manages to mount his partitions and run the installer so who knows what sort of configuration he's got now.
[07:26] <dr_willis> glad i stay  away from lvm
[07:26] <subcool> histo, well, did u want me to install it to the laptop, or just the usb?
[07:26] <one> ntzrmtthihu777: this needs to be invoked as root
[07:26] <histo> [Saint]: So i suggested he install 12.10 to usb because it has lvm2 already
[07:27] <histo> subcool: the USB
[07:27] <[Saint]> LVM is great - when it works. Though, I will admit, switching over a running system is non-trivial.
[07:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> one: no clue then.
[07:27] <histo> subcool: It has all the LVM2 stuff you need out of the box. Rather than booting a 12.04 from usb and installing LVM2
[07:27] <belgianguy> hi, my notifications on the login/greet screen are different from those once logged in
[07:27] <dubbypca>  l057c0d3r: so you guess its problem of the kernel in kombination with my hardware, right? im going to try a livecd of an older version and see if i can redo the crashes there, but im nearly sure it wont crahs. did no changes on hardware and it went well in ubuntu 11
[07:27] <one> dr_willis: what about /etc/init.d/ ?
[07:27] <subcool> histo, right- im setup
[07:27] <belgianguy> how does one set the notifications of the login/greet screen?
[07:28] <l057c0d3r> dubbypca, it could be a number if different things...
[07:28] <histo> subcool: You really need to take the 5minutes to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM so you understand what is going on.
[07:28] <dubbypca> but no clues from the screenshot are possible?
[07:28] <jacob_> With all the commands that is dealing with skype wrapper, it just tells me there is no such file or directory
[07:29] <l057c0d3r> what i seen looked like a graphics fault... but not exactly sure
[07:29] <dubbypca> asomeone told me the profs might see wheres the problem
[07:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: do ls
[07:29] <dr_willis> when  in  doubt LOOK  and see whats there. ;)
[07:29] <histo> subcool: You will see the part about installing and understand what you are doing wrong.
[07:29] <jacob_> ls
[07:29] <jacob_> ok
[07:29] <histo> subcool: You need to install lvm after you install 12.04
[07:29] <histo> jacob_: I came in late what is it that you are trying to do?
[07:30] <dubbypca> propably the nvidia card yes, thats what i feel
[07:30] <jacob_> Get rid of the skype-wrapper ppa
[07:30] <histo> subcool: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM#Install_lvm2_onto_your_new_Ubuntu_Install  just doing this section will fix your problems
[07:30] <histo> jacob_: Any reason you don't just go into software sources and remove it?
[07:31] <histo> jacob_: System Settings > Software Sources
[07:31] <subcool> histo, yeah- that looks familiaer - ill do it...
[07:31] <jacob_> I have tried cant find it in there if you can help me find it in there i may have better luck
[07:31] <subcool> give me a few
[07:32] <shubbar> [Saint], Digital SPDIF Out in sound setting didnt work. I have connected the display card audio in to the motherboard spdif output
[07:32] <dr_willis> jacob_:  if ls dosent show the file.. then its gone
[07:32] <[Saint]> shubbar: that _should_ work...
[07:32] <histo> subcool: Read the whole page first then you will understand that section.
[07:32] <histo> jacob_: why do you think it's installed still?
[07:32] <subcool> ok, -
[07:32] <Safa_[A_boy]> Hi all, I have a simple problem... "Ambiance" theme wont work probebly... everything switch to it Except the window panel (name and X & - buttons)
[07:33] <Safa_[A_boy]> what is the problem?
[07:34] <one> dr_willis: hey doc! its iptraf
[07:34] <dubbypca> might a look into syslog be more helpfull? i posted one yesterday on the german channel. sadly noone had an idea whats the problem: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/413807/
[07:35] <l057c0d3r> Safa_[A_boy], sounds like your windows manager is using a different theme pattern.. for instance..  my system uses gtk themes as well..
[07:35] <l057c0d3r> what wm are you using
[07:35] <jacob_> Ok and Histo I am in the Because the only thing that i have done is remove the grum or what ever the word was and I haven't successfully rm the ppa atleast from what i have noticed in the terminal.
[07:35] <dubbypca> and the xsessions-error. http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/413812/
[07:35] <Safa_[A_boy]> how can I know ? :P
[07:36] <dubbypca> xorg-log is in link one at line 4411
[07:36] <l057c0d3r> did you install ubunut kubuntu xubuntu lubuntu ubuntu-gnome-remix ext
[07:36] <histo> dubbypca: have you done a memtest?
[07:36] <Safa_[A_boy]> yeah
[07:36] <l057c0d3r> which one
[07:37] <Safa_[A_boy]> kde lxde xfce gnome and ciamon
[07:37] <Safa_[A_boy]> all :P
[07:37] <dubbypca> histo, i did.
[07:37] <dubbypca> no errors
[07:38] <l057c0d3r> Safa_[A_boy], you may have to go though all the settings....  and see if you can find all the theme settings and set them to what you want..  since you have so many different ones...  also might want to check out the gnome-tweak tool and ubuntu tweak
[07:38] <Kartagis> good morning #ubuntu
[07:38] <Kartagis> so, I'd installed xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory". I also upgraded the kernel, and I get the same message. why am I getting that? I've got /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6. I've been told that it might be doing it because libc.so.6 can't be located in /lib/, however I looked at another 12.04 ubuntu w
[07:38] <Kartagis> ithout xen installed, and libc.so.6 is at the same place as mine. how can I resolve this? thanks :)
[07:38] <l057c0d3r> some settings will change it for one desktop environment.. but the next might use a different one
[07:38] <jacob_> Well its not even in synaptic packages either.
[07:39] <Safa_[A_boy]> ubuntu tweak wont work, but np
[07:39] <dubbypca> just ubuntu
[07:39] <jacob_> so doesn't that mean it is gone?
[07:39] <l057c0d3r> jacob_, yep
[07:39] <l057c0d3r> should be
[07:39] <jacob_> Ok thank you all for your help
[07:40] <l057c0d3r> jacob_, should still do a sudo apt-get update
[07:40] <l057c0d3r> if you havent already
[07:40] <jacob_> Yeah i was just going to do that
[07:40] <dubbypca> ubuntu.de
[07:41] <cfhowlett> dubbypca, #ubuntu-de for german ...
[07:41] <dubbypca> sry, wrong window while typing ^^
[07:42] <jacob_> Ok my last question is going to be a dumb question but is it normal if you go into setting then go to details and the overview hast the list of memory, processor, and ECT. well the Graphics says unknown, Is that normal?
[07:43] <jacob_> and the driver says unknown too.
[07:43] <l057c0d3r> if you don't have a binary driver installed yeah
[07:45] <Safa_[A_boy]> l057c0d3r, the thing that I can't understand that only this theme have this problem! "Radiance" dont have it :(
[07:45] <jacob_> Ok does that really matter to have? and could that be a reason why steam doesn't run the games so well, Because like i installed steam and team fortress but it runs extremly slow. and i have no idea why it is, because my graphics and memory and prossecer should run the program just fine.
[07:45] <Safa_[A_boy]> opps :|
[07:46] <l057c0d3r> Safa_[A_boy], hmm..  might be an incomplete theme set
[07:46] <l057c0d3r> not sure...
[07:46] <l057c0d3r> sorry i cant help more
[07:46] <one> Ubuntu: /etc/init.d/ runs any shell scripts in the directory at boot time correct??
[07:47] <Safa_[A_boy]> its Ubuntu default theme... and it was working probably !
[07:47] <Safa_[A_boy]> never mind :)
[07:47] <invariant> Is there any e-mail client which works with eml files in attachments?
[07:48] <invariant> By that I mean that it just displays the messages in a configurable order.
[07:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> gui or cli?
[07:50] <subcool> histo, ok- im a lil caught up, but- im not too sure about sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot -
[07:50] <jacob_> Does any one run steam on there system, because it runs extremely bad and i am just wondering if its because my driver for my graphics is unknown?
[07:51] <l057c0d3r> jacob_, yes i run steam
[07:51] <l057c0d3r> and it works great.. if you have the experimental drivers installed for your card
[07:51] <l057c0d3r> i have an adm card.. and had to use the one from the adm website
[07:51] <subcool> histo, i do see a bit of a issue... -
[07:52] <invariant> ntzrmtthihu777, any.
[07:52] <l057c0d3r> what card do you have ?
[07:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> invariant: I don't recall offhand, but I need to re-find it. do you use gmail or what?
[07:52] <invariant> ntzrmtthihu777, how is my mail service provider relevant?
[07:52] <jacob_> Ok, home ram does it use? Because for some odd reason it runs slow, and my system is fairly new, and i have just under 3 gb for memory
[07:53] <invariant> ntzrmtthihu777, I find it annoying when people ask for irrelevant details.
[07:53] <l057c0d3r> well i have 5gb ram and with steam running im using 27% right now and i got other things running
[07:53] <subcool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595328/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595329/
[07:53] <Grimhound> I'm not mad. Just very, very disappointed.
[07:53] <l057c0d3r> jacob_, you will want the binary drivers from the website of your video card manufacture installed
[07:54] <Grimhound> Thought this place was for support and not trolling.
[07:54] <subcool> Grimhound, someone picking on u?
[07:54] <l057c0d3r> !nvidia | jacob_
[07:55] <Grimhound> People told me a series of commands that essentially scrambled my install of Xubuntu
[07:55] <histo> subcool: What issue is that?
[07:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> invariant: it is not irrelevant, the guide I know of assumes gmail and it may not work for other providers.
[07:55] <subcool> Grimhound, happens lol -
[07:55] <histo> Grimhound: They did not. YOUR ISSUES were prior to that command. But you won't open your eyes right now to see that.
[07:55] <subcool> histo, i have two boots.. sda1 and sdb1
[07:55] <Grimhound> So I reformatted, went outside to calm down and shovel through a foot of snow and avoid a brain aneurysm, calmed down, and then hired a hitman.
[07:55] <invariant> ntzrmtthihu777, show me the guide and I will decide on that myself.
[07:56] <Grimhound> I had no issues before that, histo.
[07:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> invariant: gladly
[07:56] <Grimhound> My issue was an icon.
[07:56] <invariant> ntzrmtthihu777, next time just say 'for gmail do URL'.
[07:56] <Grimhound> My issue was a bluetooth icon showing up where it shouldn't.
[07:56] <subcool> Grimhound, so you in the tristate?
[07:56] <histo> Grimhound: You obviously did because running startx as someone else suggested to you will not harm your system.
[07:56] <Grimhound> It wiped my settings and locked me out.
[07:56] <Grimhound> I could only access my computer as Guest
[07:57] <subcool> startx only boots the gui
[07:57] <l057c0d3r> Grimhound, and if you seen what i said.....  bluetooth icon.. then bluetooth is running... remove it from system startup and all should be well after reboot
[07:57] <leptone> anyone know anything about running minecraft on 12.04? :)
[07:57] <Grimhound> Then booting the GUI wipes settings and locks you out
[07:57] <Grimhound> I was on a fresh install as it was
[07:57] <l057c0d3r> and after running a starx..  a reboot should have fixed anything that it did
[07:57] <subcool> leptone, hahah- wow.
[07:57] <Grimhound> leptone: It's a java app.
[07:57] <histo> Grimhound: It does not wipe anything out stop spreading lies
[07:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> invariant: its the only one i am aware of, so again, no reason for bein that specific.
[07:57] <Grimhound> Install java. Play game.
[07:58] <invariant> ntzrmtthihu777, are you ever going to post the URL?
[07:58] <leptone> im seeing 100%-250% CPU usage with open JDK and Sun JDK
[07:58] <Grimhound> histo: I am not. I'm saying what happened to me
[07:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> invariant: as soon as I find it.
[07:58] <invariant> ntzrmtthihu777, nobody cares about your chat.
[07:58] <histo> Grimhound: I'm telling you something else happened to you.
[07:58] <subcool> Grimhound, ya- starting gui doesnt do that, you problably just had something ..
[07:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> invariant: you know what, find it yourself.
[07:58] <subcool> Grimhound, ive messed up startx MANY times..
[07:58] <Grimhound> It was literally a fresh install. Programs installed otherwise: Cheese, Audacity
[07:59] <invariant> ntzrmtthihu777, you know what?  How do you think your desktop starts now?
[07:59] <histo> Grimhound: Try and recreate the issue in a virtual machine. I bet you won't be able to.
[07:59] <l057c0d3r> on my gentoo system.. i don't have it set to auto load a desktop.. since its a server..
[07:59] <histo> Grimhound: fresh install and run startx
[07:59] <l057c0d3r> so if i want a desktop i have to type starx in term every time
[08:00] <Grimhound> I typed "sudo startx" It brought me to a screen which bounced me into a wiped out root login
[08:00] <leptone> running minecraft uses 100%-250% CPU making my system and the game unusable. anyone know anything?
[08:00] <Grimhound> All options were gone
[08:00] <Grimhound> I tried restarting, restart command was gone
[08:00] <Grimhound> So I shutdown.
[08:00] <subcool> Grimhound, dont do sudo
[08:00] <Grimhound> Restarted my computer. Login screen. All passwords refused
[08:00] <l057c0d3r> Grimhound, and it was still messed up after reboot
[08:00] <subcool> Grimhound, sudo boots up root - very bad
[08:00] <l057c0d3r> but yeah.. like subcool said not do sudo with startx
[08:01] <subcool> Grimhound, sudo passwd will create a password for sudo/root
[08:01] <subcool> Grimhound, from there, you can create users.
[08:01] <jacob_> Well great mine isn't even on the list, I have A AMD Vision radeon hd 6310 atleast from what i see
[08:02] <subcool> Grimhound, you can also view ur users and groups to see where everything is.
[08:02] <subcool> Grimhound, heck, you can even delete the password file and start fresh. -
[08:03] <Mishke> how ubuntu 12.10 or 13.04 works with GNOME Shell?
[08:03] <Grimhound> Whoever was having an issue with Minecraft: Take note that while the game look simple, it's actually one of the more intensive games on PC
[08:03] <belgianguy> jacob_: isn't that the 6300 Series then?
[08:03] <SunStar> thus its success
[08:03] <l057c0d3r_> and follow the guide on installing from the website.. in the ati part of the guide.. will work fine on that card
[08:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Mishke: I am not sure about 12.10+, but 12.04 works perfectly fine.
[08:03] <subcool> histo, so anyways-... sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/boot - which do i do- ? sdb or sda?
[08:04] <jacob_> Yeah i am pretty sure
[08:05] <belgianguy> jacob_: I missed the discussion, but if you're looking for the latest beta, those are here: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/RN_LN_CAT13-2_Beta.aspx
[08:05] <histo> subcool: sda is the drive not a partition
[08:06] <Mishke> sda1 sda2 etc its partition
[08:06] <jacob_> No Binary drivers because in my details say that my drivers are unknown and steam doesn't run teamfortress at all, Its so slow and one of the guys who runs steam on his system said it could be because of the binary driver
[08:06] <subcool> histo, so- do sda1?
[08:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone know how to lowercase all letters but the first in a file name via rename?
[08:07] <belgianguy> jacob_: you'll need the latest unstable/beta to run Steam
[08:07] <belgianguy> TF2 runs fine here, although it still crashes from time to time
[08:07] <jacob_> so in that case i just have to switch it to that in the additional drivers?
[08:08] <l057c0d3r_> nope
[08:08] <belgianguy> jacob_: it's not that easy, doing it wrong and it'll be hard to regain control
[08:08] <Grimhound> To anyone currently horribly and hopelessly frustrated, here. weather.com/video/a-squeaky-frog-34537
[08:08] <l057c0d3r_> not sure about yours but mine system did not have the experimental drivers in the additional drivers page
[08:08] <belgianguy> you'll want to be 200% sure abut what you're doing
[08:09] <l057c0d3r_> so i made a deb from the package on the amd website.. its not really that har
[08:09] <subcool> histo, so anyways- i did it- - im chroot'ed
[08:09] <l057c0d3r_> d
[08:09] <jacob_> Oh yeah not in 12.04lts so i can't do it that way, anyways i am in 12.10, And yeah i kinda figure that.
[08:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Grimhound: now that is entertaining
[08:10] <l057c0d3r_> just rememer if you follow the guide..   made it for quantal not percice.. because you are on 12.10
[08:10] <histo> subcool: Now follow the guide to install lvm2
[08:10] <subcool> histo, wha? -
[08:10] <subcool> histo, install lvm2 packages you mean?
[08:10] <histo> subcool: I have no idea anymore where you are intalling ubuntu to. You have duplicate partitions. You have some used as lvm and others outside of the extended partition that aren't lvm.
[08:11] <jacob_> i can get the driver form amd. but the only thing is that i am not sure if its linux 86 or 86_64,
[08:11] <subcool> histo, the ones outside arent anything, mostly for storage
[08:11] <subcool> histo, sooner or later ill install win or something
[08:11] <subcool> histo, lvm is mostly the actual install
[08:12] <subcool> histo, but check this out..
[08:12] <antonio__> I need to find out whats wrong with my system...
[08:12] <histo> subcool: Okay well you need to mount Whatever LVM partition you installed ubuntu to. Then you need to follow that page the after installation steps to get it working
[08:12] <one> Anyone: Trying to invoke iptraf using -i all -B and getting unsupported interface error but it runs on all interfaces in console mode, any help out there?
[08:12] <histo> subcool: /dev/sda1 does nto appear to be lvm.
[08:12] <belgianguy> jacob_: open a terminal and enter "uname -a"
[08:12] <subcool> histo, http://paste.kde.org/690104
[08:12] <subcool> histo, nope-
[08:13] <subcool> histo, ok- ill re-read it
[08:13] <histo> subcool: Which partition do you have mounted/
[08:13] <histo> subcool: that you chrooted to?
[08:13] <i3ear> hey, can anyone tell me how to mount a DVD Rom with the unhide option on?
[08:14] <histo> subcool: paste the output of lsblk right now.
[08:14] <belgianguy> jacob_: you'll want to find a guide, as you'll need to uninstall the old one first, (or things can break), PLUS the beta has an overlay "beta testing only" that you'll need to remove by a script
[08:14] <one> oops... Anyone: Trying to invoke iptraf using -i all -B and getting unsupported interface error but it runs on all interfaces in console mode, any help out there?
[08:14] <histo> subcool: on the usb not in the chroot
[08:14] <subcool> histo, im missing something, everything keeps fialing.
[08:14] <subcool> histo, oh
[08:14] <histo> subcool: When you installed did you tell it to use your seperate var partition?
[08:14] <subcool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595355/
[08:14] <subcool> histo, yes
[08:15] <jacob_> Oh ok maybe they will teach me those things tomorrow at free geek, Because they only deal with Linux, Mainly Ubuntu too. So i will talk to them about it.
[08:15] <jacob_> Thanks you guys
[08:15] <subcool> histo, mount it to /var?
[08:15] <histo> subcool: then you will need to mount the var partition to /where/ever/you/mouted/root/var
[08:15] <antonio__> I'm getting a ton of errors
[08:15] <antonio__> http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/con_movies/media/Screenshotfrom2013-03-07221255_zps68eb4887.png.html
[08:15] <Apoptosis> free geek portland?
[08:15] <jacob_> Yeah, Why?
[08:15] <Apoptosis> neat
[08:15] <Apoptosis> I was there today
[08:15] <histo> subcool: mount the var partition to /mnt/var  and moutn your /tmp partition to /mnt/tmp
[08:16] <histo> subcool: then the rest of the guide shoudl work fine.
[08:16] <subcool> histo, ok- brb
[08:17] <belgianguy> jacob_: http://www.upubuntu.com/2013/01/amd-catalyst-display-driver-131-adds.html
[08:17] <subcool> histo, give me a few- brb -
[08:18] <one> dr_willis: Trying to invoke iptraf using -i all -B and getting unsupported interface error but it runs on all interfaces in console mode, any help out there?
[08:18] <jacob_> Nice Yeah no i am going to go through all there programs and then try and get a job with them, The have one opening right now that i need to send my resume in to right now, and Thank you Belgianguy i will be reading that
[08:19] <belgianguy> jacob_: The one I followed a week ago was slightly different for 12.10, but can't locate it atm
[08:19] <belgianguy> but that article is more recent than what I read
[08:19] <histo> jacob_: what is free geek?
[08:19] <nima_sh> i have problem installing ubuntu
[08:19] <histo> !details | nima_sh
[08:20] <belgianguy> jacob_: this is what I followed: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/09/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-129-driver.html
[08:20] <belgianguy> and you'll want to find the script to remove the watermark
[08:20] <acalvo> has anyone succeed with preseeding an installation?
[08:20] <histo> jacob_: Install the driver from the repos
[08:21] <histo> jacob_: don't use anything else
[08:21] <nima_sh> im using ubunto installer for windows to install ubuntu v12.10 but i recieve an eror : AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_info'
[08:22] <subcool> histo, thats not working out very well
[08:22] <dylan_> can someone help me?
[08:22] <jacob_> Its a nonprofit company that gets peoples old to new computer and test all the donations and builds computers to sell back out in to the protland area and they only deal with upbunt and other linux os, and ok i will, there is there web site for you histo  http://www.freegeek.org/
[08:23] <belgianguy> histo: if you want to play steam reliably, you'll need the latest and greatest
[08:23] <dylan_> i need help with my wifi please, i have the correct driver installed bt see no networks
[08:23] <nima_sh> what can i do?
[08:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> dylan_: what kind of machine is it?
[08:23] <dylan_> its a dell m1330
[08:23] <belgianguy> histo: the changelog explicitly mentions Steam/TF2, so I do think it's related
[08:23] <dylan_> i'm on a friends computer using the wifi to chat right now
[08:23] <subcool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595370
[08:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> dylan_: I have similar issue on my hp dv5, I turned wifi off then on using hardware button and it worked
[08:24] <dylan_> i don't have a hardware button
[08:24] <dylan_> i don't think
[08:24] <dylan_> hold on
[08:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> dylan_: no fn+f# key?
[08:24] <dylan_> not for wifi it doesnt appear
[08:24] <jacob_> it should be like fn f12 or near there
[08:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> dylan_: strange. as jacob_ said.
[08:25] <dylan_> theyre blank
[08:25] <dylan_> i'm googling to see if theres a toggle
[08:25] <l057c0d3r_> on my system if i hit fn f12 it is f12.. otherwise the button does the other operation.. like dimming.. sound down / up ext
[08:25] <one> Hey
[08:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> dylan_: also try using it from the network manager
[08:25] <kjdigh> hello everyone. If someone can explain to me what is exactly the "system()" in the source of syslog-ng, it would be great
[08:25] <dylan_> ntzrmtthihu777: using what?
[08:26] <kjdigh> as defautl I have only internal() and system(), and not unix-strem("/dev/log") and file("/proc/kmsg")
[08:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> dylan_: the disable wireless, enable wireless
[08:26] <nello> \list
[08:26] <dylan_> i don't even see that option
[08:27] <jacob_> through the network settings if you go up in the corner where you can restart there should be a networking symbol
[08:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> !list | nello
[08:27] <jacob_> click it and then there should be network settings or a toggle there
[08:27] <belgianguy> anyone know where the settings of unity-greeter are?
[08:27] <dylan_> jacob_: in network settings all thats listed is wired, and network proxy
[08:28] <belgianguy> my notifications of the login screen are all messed up
[08:28] <Industrial> What package do I install to get tab completion of git in bash?
[08:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> belgianguy: /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter sometingh
[08:28] <dylan_> okay i just dechecked enable networking, then rechecked it, nothing
[08:28] <l057c0d3r_> belgianguy, if your talking about the login screen... then there is no gui app for it
[08:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> Industrial: you don't already have it
[08:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> Industrial: you don't already have it?
[08:28] <belgianguy> l00pback: cli will be fine :)
[08:28] <Industrial> ntzrmtthihu777: when I press tab, nothing happens. no branch names are auto completed.
[08:28] <belgianguy> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks, I'll have a look
[08:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Industrial: wow, strange. you are typing a few keys first, right?
[08:29] <Industrial> ntzrmtthihu777: yes. it just tabs/prints the dir.
[08:29] <dylan_> jacob_:
[08:29] <jacob_> dylan_ its still not showing any wen you did that right?
[08:30] <dylan_> jacob_: right
[08:30] <dylan_> i updated my bios tonite, maybe it got disabled in there, let me check
[08:30] <nima_sh> when i want to install ubuntu v12.10 i get this eror AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_info'
[08:30] <nima_sh> what can i do
[08:31] <jacob_> Looking up the system info si i can see what the problem could be.and ok
[08:31] <bazhang> nima_sh, wubi install?
[08:31] <nima_sh> yes
[08:31] <histo> subcool: sorry i'm back hows it going?
[08:31] <Industrial> ntzrmtthihu777: do you know what package is in charge of this? Maybe I can restart it.
[08:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> try source /etc/bash_completion
[08:32] <subcool> histo, scroll up- bad
[08:32] <bazhang> nima_sh, wubi is more of a test drive you realize, not a real long term dual boot solution
[08:32] <histo> subcool: Are you connected to the internet on this machine?
[08:32] <jacob_> Dylan its ubuntu 12.10 right?
[08:32] <subcool> im on it now :)
[08:32] <histo> subcool: after you chroot apt-get update then install your packages
[08:32] <subcool> histo, update erros
[08:32] <dylan_> jacob_: what do i need to do? btw i checked bios settings theyre fine
[08:33] <dylan_> jacob_: right
[08:33] <nima_sh> bazhang : so what can i do
[08:33] <histo> !patience > nima_sh
[08:33] <jacob_> checking the troubleshoot process.
[08:34] <histo> subcool: Well you will have to paste them I can't read your mind
[08:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> nima_sh: first thing you gotta realize is wubi == fail
[08:34] <subcool> histo, working on it-
[08:34] <histo> !wubi | nima_sh
[08:34] <jacob_> When you installed Ubuntu 12.10 did you check to install the drivers with it?
[08:34] <l057c0d3r_> ntzrmtthihu777, now now... i ran a wubi install for quite a long time with out a problem
[08:35] <l057c0d3r_> was actually nice before i removed windows..l
[08:35] <subcool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595384
[08:35] <l057c0d3r_> just used a simlink to the windows folders in /host for my music/ pictures ext
[08:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r_: as many folk as I hear bellyachinc about their wubi screwing up I see little reason to do it. no benefit, as you are still using windows's filespace, and you could presumeably screw it up with a fragmented drive.
[08:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r_: yeah, I did the same with my dual boot before I completely switched over.
[08:36] <[Saint]> What's wrong with Wubi?
[08:37] <l057c0d3r_> thats what i was saying :-p
[08:37] <[Saint]> Oh noes! A loopback FS!
[08:37] <[Saint]> ;)
[08:37] <jacob_> Has anyone tried JoliOS?
[08:37] <histo> subcool: What command did you chroot with?
[08:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: I would assume chroot
[08:38] <dylan__> jacob_: i got timed out
[08:38] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: really with the issues he's having.
[08:38] <jacob_> When you installed Ubuntu 12.10 did you check to install the drivers with it?
[08:39] <[Saint]> ...there's an option for that?
[08:39] <dylan__> jacob_: all i did was download the iso, install on flash drive, and booted and installed from there
[08:39] <histo> subcool: exit the chroot. Ensure that the machine is connected to the internet. open a terminal chroot /mnt .  Once you are in there apt-get update
[08:39] <[Saint]> AFAIK the only prompts are "download updates" and "download non-free"
[08:39] <[Saint]> (mp3 codec)
[08:39] <dylan__> i didn't see any sort of option for drivers or think to, but under additional drivers in software sources, the proper broadcom driver appears installed and activated
[08:39] <Industrial> Where are the settings for Unity keyboard commands? I want to completely disable WIN/SUPER_L + 1-9. I want to use those for something else.
[08:39] <[Saint]> dylan__: that's because there aren't any.
[08:40] <[Saint]> that's ok :)
[08:40] <histo> !wubi > nima_sh
[08:40] <histo> !dualboot > nima_sh
[08:40] <subcool> histo, just that chroot /mnt
[08:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> Industrial: there is a section in system settings dealing with hotkeys
[08:40] <histo> subcool: paste lsblk again now that you have changed moujnts and stuff.
[08:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> Industrial: called keyboard shortcuts, search your dash for it.
[08:41] <pecc> hello people, my lil' thang has started trying to connect wireless all the time -- doesn't let me untick "Enable Wireless", reboot is of no help, setting 0wlan (or was it wlan0) does nothing, this would be fine but I have for the most times a wired connection and the wireless gets unconnected and the notifications bug me -- running 12.10
[08:41] <jacob_> I am guessing your system is hooked up to the inter net via Ethernet?
[08:41] <subcool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595386/
[08:41] <dylan__> i am on my roomates computer, hooked up to the wifi network
[08:41] <dylan__> mine is next to me
[08:41] <histo> subcool: and you chroot /mnt and then apt-get update errors?
[08:42] <subcool> histo, correct
[08:42] <histo> subcool: please exit the current chroot close the terminal and open a new one. then try to chroot again.
[08:42] <subcool> k
[08:42] <histo> subcool: sudo chroot /mnt too
[08:42] <histo> subcool: use sudo
[08:43] <subcool> k- in..
[08:43] <jacob_> can you hook it up via Ethernet?
[08:43] <subcool> histo, errors
[08:44] <subcool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595399
[08:45] <one> Ubuntu: how come when I add a cd using apt-cdrom it still gets ignored using apt-get?
[08:45] <histo> subcool: paste your /mnt/etc/apt/sources.list please
[08:45] <dlam> if i `crontab -e` and update a job, does it take effect right away?  (or do i gotta restart a service maybe?)
[08:46] <histo> dlam: as far as I know it should take effect immediately
[08:46] <spencer> Can someone tell me is curl going to be better than wget for downloading only new files on a URL?
[08:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> spencer: what kinda files
[08:47] <histo> !better | spencer
[08:47] <subcool> histo, well- lol.. i dont have a /mnt/etc/
[08:47] <histo> subcool: inside the chroot it will be /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:47] <histo> subcool: sorry
[08:47] <subcool> histo, haha- ops
[08:47] <jacob_> Dylan, i am going to send you a link you will need and Ethernet connection but this should work if you have the same/similar specs/networking cards http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2115990
[08:48] <jacob_> dylan, You may want to try that,
[08:48] <subcool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595405
[08:49] <dylan__> i'm trying to find a way to do it without ethernet but i will try this tomorrow
[08:49] <deaw111> .
[08:49] <kimera> can anybody tell me if this http://www.staples.com/Canon-PIXMA-MX432-Wireless-All-in-One-Printer/product_477867 printer works with ubuntu 12.10
[08:50] <kimera> or how I can go about finding out if it does
[08:50] <histo> subcool: try apt-get update again. See if the errors at the top are different. I think you are having connectivity issues
[08:51] <histo> !cups | kimera
[08:51] <subcool> histo, ya- i've seen it. half of it errors, the other half doesnt..
[08:51] <subcool> histo, it does the same thing every time
[08:52] <histo> subcool: The exact same errors each time?
[08:52] <hjalp> hjalp pl0x
[08:52] <subcool> histo, im not sure how the connectivity issues can be a part, its this computer.. haha - im online
[08:52] <spencer> ubottu: sorry not my intent. I am just getting frustrated with wget.
[08:52] <deaw11> .
[08:53] <spencer> ...
[08:53] <subcool> histo, well i havent done a character comparision.. but-
[08:53] <spencer> ubottu: seriously a bot?
[08:53] <[Saint]> spencer: yes, its a bot.
[08:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> omg thats too damn funny
[08:53] <hjalp> hjalp me bot
[08:53] <spencer> That cool and creepy at the same time
[08:54] <hjalp> need my ubuntu fixed
[08:54] <[Saint]> It probably thinks the same thing ;)
[08:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> !details | hjalp
[08:54] <histo> subcool: On the USB opena  terminal and try sudo apt-get update do you get the same errors?
[08:54] <subcool> nah-
[08:54] <hjalp> 12.10 i have problem with Nvidia, after attempting instalation lost my top and side bar
[08:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> hjalp: did you try rebooting?
[08:55] <subcool> histo, really wishing i could forse pastebinit
[08:55] <hjalp> not all i do is from terminal, only desktop and cursosr show up + i AM on s vidio and all is haky
[08:55] <histo> subcool: You should be able to from the usb assuming that working.
[08:55] <hjalp> rebooted and tried lots of stuff
[08:56] <histo> subcool: What country are you in btw?
[08:56] <[Saint]> Send me your PC, I'll debug it ;)
[08:56] <hjalp> n1
[08:57] <subcool> histo, us-
[08:57] <hjalp> i was wondering is there a way to get my enviroment back
[08:57] <jacob_> Oh histo i did sudo apt-get install for pastbin but its not on my system so i am not sure how to get int to and see it
[08:57] <hjalp> like sidebar (if thats what its called in ubuntu)
[08:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> jacob_: apt-get install pastebinit
[08:58] <hjalp> how does one alt tab in ubuntu?
[08:58] <jacob_> I did do that but i am not able to find it anywhere?
[08:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> hjalp: just like that.
[08:59] <[Saint]> with alt and tab
[08:59] <hjalp> cat alt tab terminal
[08:59] <hjalp> *cant
[08:59] <hjalp> maybe exeption
[08:59] <jacob_> no click ctl alt t
[08:59] <hjalp> y
[08:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> hjalp: what exactly do you mean, alt-tab, that does it do
[08:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> *what
[09:00] <histo> subcool: k. let me now how sudo apt-get update works from terminal on the USB
[09:00] <histo> not int he chroot
[09:00] <hjalp> go from one window to another
[09:00] <jacob_> that will get you to the termanil
[09:00] <hjalp> i am huge linux noob
[09:00] <jacob_> terminal*
[09:00] <subcool> histo, itworks fine..
[09:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: what version of ubuntu
[09:00]  * [Saint] states positively that one can indeed alt+tab to the terminal
[09:00] <[Saint]> ...assuming it is open, that is.
[09:00] <hjalp> this is like my 2nd day and i already broke it
[09:00] <jacob_> Oh yeah its alt tab
[09:00] <histo> subcool: Is it trying to connect to http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:01] <[Saint]> the server it connects to is irrelevant.
[09:01] <histo> [Saint]: not for the errors he is getting
[09:01] <hjalp> i also dont have top part of every single window (its place where close and minimise should be)
[09:01] <subcool> histo, - yea..
[09:02] <histo> [Saint]: He maynot be able to reach the us. repos but can reach others.
[09:02] <hjalp> can anyone guess what i did wrong or shall i just reinstall whole thing
[09:03] <jacob_> Here right click on the desktop and go change desktop and go to settings
[09:03] <hjalp> ne?
[09:03] <[Saint]> *change desktop background
[09:03] <histo> subcool: so the USB apt can reach the repos but the chroot'd cant?
[09:04] <subcool> yep
[09:04] <hjalp> how do i minimize irc?
[09:04] <pecc> hjalp: do the toolbars appear when you move your cursor near where they should be?
[09:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> hjalp: use the minimize key.
[09:04] <jacob_> Hjalp go to change desktop beackground by right clicking the desktop, at this point idk
[09:04] <[Saint]> ntzrmtthihu777: he doesn't have one - not in the UI, at least
[09:05] <histo> subcool: okay your hosts and resolv.conf are still jacked up in the chroot
[09:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> hjalp: ohh, I missed that one.
[09:05] <hjalp> what
[09:05] <hjalp> i triend to drag it down but compiz stoped working
[09:05] <histo> subcool: paste your /etc/resolv.conf from the chroot
[09:05] <jacob_> right click  the desktop and go to change desktop background
[09:05] <histo> subcool: and your /etc/hosts
[09:05] <kurteknikk> Hi,  i am running into this issue: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate:
[09:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> and this Is why I am glad I don't have to deal with compiz
[09:06] <kurteknikk> error: error running shared postrotate script for '/var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log '....
[09:06] <hjalp> hjelp me
[09:06] <kurteknikk> I had a look around and everybody says it's a wrong password for the user: debian-sys-maint but the password is right... Any idea what else can be wrong ?
[09:06] <hjalp> pl0x
[09:06] <histo> subcool: actually if we just fix /etc/resolv.conf we should be good.
[09:06] <pecc> anyone know how to effectively disable wireless short of removing the card physically?
[09:07] <subcool> histo, yea- that is empty
[09:07] <jacob_> Hjalp i am trying to help i think your display settings
[09:07] <hjalp> y
[09:07] <l057c0d3r_> pecc if its a lappy toggle it with the fn key
[09:07] <subcool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595433
[09:07] <hjalp> my sidplay is like 800x somethin
[09:07] <subcool> histo, thats my hosts
[09:07] <hjalp> and unindentified
[09:07] <l057c0d3r_> pecc or click on the network symble in the taskbar at top.. and click disable wireless
[09:07] <hjalp> meybe beacuse i am on S-video
[09:08] <jacob_> Because your display settings my not be correct
[09:08] <hjalp> nvidia and 12.10
[09:08] <histo> subcool: and let me see the resolv.conf
[09:08] <subcool> histo, no output
[09:08] <subcool> histo, its empty
[09:08] <deaw11> .
[09:09] <histo> subcool: echo 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' >> /etc/resolv.conf
[09:09] <histo> subcool: do that in the chroot
[09:09] <hjalp> jacob_, shall i do one reinstall and start over? i have this ubuntu for like 2 days
[09:09] <subcool> histo, k
[09:09] <pecc> l057c0d3r: aye, that's he rub: it doesn't LET me disable my wireless that way. I click on it and it just closes the menu, when I reopen it "enable wireless" is still ticked. I tried setting 0wlan/wlan0 off via terminal too, it did nothing.
[09:09] <histo> subcool: then apt-get update
[09:09] <l057c0d3r> hmm
[09:09] <l057c0d3r> how odd
[09:09] <subcool> histo, you rock
[09:10] <deaw11> .
[09:10] <jacob_> you don't have to fully reinstall it if you just go the boot menu instart up and go to recovery.
[09:10] <jacob_> if your going to do that.
[09:10] <pecc> l057c0d3r: also I can't use the menu to edit my connections to check if my Overly Attached Wireless connection is set to connect automatically
[09:11] <subcool> histo, isnt that nameserver for google?
[09:11] <hjalp> i reinstalen once and got same resoult (not sure what i choose) i have live usb
[09:11] <histo> subcool: yes
[09:11] <Fuzzles> have they changed all the icons in 13.04 or is it just the dash icon?
[09:11] <histo> !raring | Fuzzles
[09:11] <histo> subcool: okay so it works now?
[09:11] <subcool> histo, yep :)
[09:12] <histo> subcool: alright those >%gt;  is supposed to be >>
[09:12] <hjalp> jacob_, so how to start boot meny?
[09:12] <hjalp> i have live usb
[09:12] <shubbar> before i connected the display card SPDIF input to the MB output it was connected to the MB CI = chassis intrusion!  Could this have damaged it?
[09:12] <Cyber_Akuma> Are they going to back to A once they hit Zippy Zebra or whatever?
[09:12] <histo> Cyber_Akuma: the world ends then
[09:12] <Cyber_Akuma> aww :(
[09:12] <jacob_> Menu*, Well you turn off the computer or restart it and its either esc or i think f12
[09:12] <subcool> histo, it didnt like it...
[09:13] <histo> kind of like the myan callender
[09:13] <histo> subcool: didn't like what?
[09:13] <subcool> histo, root@kubuntu:/# echo "dm-mod" >>;>>; /etc/modules
[09:13] <subcool> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
[09:13] <hjalp> k
[09:13] <histo> subcool: no echo "dm-mod" >> /etc/modules
[09:13] <hjalp> jacob_, thx for your halp man!
[09:13] <hjalp> have a nice day
[09:13] <jacob_> before you do that make sure you have the right buntu 12.10 for your system wither 32 bit or 64 bit
[09:14] <histo> subcool: root@kubuntu:/# echo "dm-mod" >> /etc/modules     Should look like this.
[09:14] <[Saint]> 64bit running 32bit - no problem; other way around - won;t boot - so, also no problem ;)
[09:14] <subcool> histo, thanks- i got the jist..
[09:15] <cyphase> anyone know how i can find directories that have more than N images? or perhaps list all directories in order of amount of images
[09:15] <histo> subcool: Yeah looks like a formatting error on that wiki page. I'll ahve to see if I can correct it.
[09:16] <subcool> histo, thanks for this-- very helpful. and better than the usual stuff- i actually got a clue about whats going on.. other than this last part
[09:16] <histo> cyphase: You'd have to use a few commands piped together
[09:17] <subcool> so i installed everything
[09:17] <histo> subcool: You learn from fixing rather than reinstalling
[09:17] <histo> subcool: you installed lvm2 and all that hoooplah righ?
[09:17] <subcool> histo, well, yes- but usually the people that help - just kinda tell me what to do- this makes more sense.
[09:17] <l057c0d3r_> right.. this is linux... dont reinstall.. fix
[09:18] <l057c0d3r_> almost everything can be done.../ reversed/ recovered
[09:18] <subcool> histo, not really sure what other hooplah is neccisary- but.. i;ve learned alot about lvm with this :)
[09:18] <subcool> histo, do you think all of this will fix it on boot?
[09:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r_: yeah. Although I recently borked a fresh install pretty baddly so it was better to just reinstall.
[09:19] <histo> subcool: yes if you've done everything in that section reboot unplug thrumb drive and crossfingers
[09:19] <l057c0d3r_> better really
[09:19] <l057c0d3r_> wipe config files.. strip down. and rebuild
[09:19] <l057c0d3r_> :-p
[09:19] <subcool> histo, cool- lets see hwo it goes.. thanks :)
[09:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r_: the bork removed 300 packages =_=
[09:20] <l057c0d3r_> ahh...
[09:20] <l057c0d3r_> well there was a log of what was removed :-p
[09:20] <l057c0d3r_> could have re added... but if it was a fresh install might have been faster to reinstall
[09:21] <l057c0d3r_> what you remove.. ubuntu-unity-desktop
[09:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r_: no, it was a pinguy os install. I did not remove deliberately, it happened after a shutdown during apt-get upgrade
[09:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> thing was it came with a few nice wine goodies already setup, and I did not know how to do them myself, so heh
[09:22] <l057c0d3r_> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:22] <Ohad> Hello, anyone knows how to enable autologin in my Beagleboard's ubuntu?
[09:22] <l057c0d3r_> better in my opinion
[09:22] <l057c0d3r_> but that is an opinion
[09:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> l057c0d3r_: yeah, I use dist-upgrade now, but I did not know at the time.
[09:23] <l057c0d3r_> Ohad, go to system settings...  users.. and auto login option should be in there
[09:24] <histo> Ohad: does it boot to a full GUI?
[09:24] <Kartagis> so, I'd installed xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory". I also upgraded the kernel, and I get the same message. why am I getting that? I've got /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6. I've been told that it might be doing it because libc.so.6 can't be located in /lib/, however I looked at another 12.04 ubuntu w
[09:24] <Kartagis> ithout xen installed, and libc.so.6 is at the same place as mine. how can I resolve this? thanks :)
[09:25] <helmut_> hi
 I've looked there and there is no autologin option there. I have full GUI(LKDE with gdm), I'm using ubuntu 11.10 oneric and can't use the new version (sfot/hard float issues)
[09:27] <histo> Ohad: You have to look up instructions for autologin with gdm
[09:28] <ben1253> does anybody know the best working repository for maverick?
[09:28] <histo> !eol | ben1253
[09:28] <litropy> I'm looking for the package nvidia-smi
 thanks, i'll do that.
[09:28] <litropy> it's not in apt-get ... can't find it on packages.ubuntu.com
[09:29] <histo> !find nvidia-smi
[09:29] <histo> litropy: ^^^
[09:29] <histo> Ohad: http://www.perturb.org/display/entry/812
[09:29] <ben1253> ubottu:yes it is eol!!! but atleast i need to update the repository
[09:30] <histo> ben1253: if you read the EOLUpgrades link it tells you how.
 tried that already, I have no file named  /etc/gdm/custom.conf, and creating it doesnt work
[09:30] <[Saint]> If people read more, half the channel wouldn't be here ;)
[09:30] <histo> ben1253: basically old-releases.ubuntu.com/blah
[09:31] <AsadH> Mann_Dude !
[09:31] <ben1253> histo:i don't want to upgrade the ubuntu!!bec this works very fine.hence
[09:31] <we6jbo> Hi
[09:31] <histo> ben1253: Well then i'm not sure what you want to do.
[09:31] <ben1253> histo:okk!
[09:32] <histo> ben1253: old-releases is the only working repo as far as I know.
[09:32] <histo> ben1253: but you don't want to read the webpage on how to use it. So I'm affraid no one will be able to help you.
[09:32] <ben1253> histo:ok,i am going to do that!!
[09:33] <pecc> ubottu is a bot so there's no point in talking back to it ;)
[09:33] <salz212> hi, how can I extract metadata of ext4 file system.. I need to know node list details, MAC times, Extents blocks information etc..
[09:33] <[Saint]> irony
[09:33] <llutz> salz212: dumpe2fs
[09:34] <pecc> ben1253: this was supposed to go to you but I derped -> ubottu is a bot so there's no point in talking back to it ;)
[09:35] <histo> lol
[09:35] <k1l> ben1253: an update  doessnt help you since there is no new updates in it
[09:35] <k1l> ben1253: that is the point of being EOL
[09:35] <histo> k1l: you're fighting a lost cause
[09:36] <ben1253> histo:i tried ubuntu 12.10 and 12.04 but,due to heavy use of graphics in unity,my laptop ain't able to run it properly.hence i switched back to 10.10.
[09:36] <llutz> !nounity | ben1253
[09:36] <Touhou11> ben1253: You might want to try using Xubuntu
[09:36] <k1l> ben1253: you should consider using xfce or lxde (Lubuntu) if your laptop is not powerfull or old
[09:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: I can say that gnome fallback works rather well
[09:37] <Touhou11> Gnome fallback is buggy, particularly the panel
[09:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> Touhou11: do you even know what you are talking about? I've been running gnome fallback since precise came out
[09:37] <llutz> there are loads of DE/WM out there, pick what you like and what works for you
[09:38] <histo> ben1253: you should switch Desktop Environtments rather than run an EOL distro
[09:38] <l057c0d3r> right right.. while i used to love openbox lxde
[09:38] <Touhou11> ntzrmtthihu777: Your experience must differ
[09:38] <l057c0d3r> i prefer gnome-shell cairo-dock
[09:39] <ben1253> llutz:ok,but my laptop have sis graphic chipset.and if you know that sis is sticked to windows! hence they never release their device drivers for open source os.
[09:39] <histo> ben1253: Use xfce or lxde then or gnome-panel
[09:39] <ben1253> histo:yeah!! i am thinking about it!!
[09:39] <sgo11> hi, is that possible to remove grub version title in the grub? The first line in the grub screen. not OS entries. thanks.
[09:39] <k1l> ben1253: well, sis is  problem that is right. but that should not be a problem of using lxde as the desktop
[09:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> if I read that right, if I remove gnome-shell and keep gnome-panel I keep the gnome-fallback (no effects) login?
[09:41] <ben1253> kll:ok but i don't know about it? would you please tell me,if possible?
[09:41] <l057c0d3r> in my experience.. and since i have a newer computer now i can use what i like.. but on my old system lubuntu was amazing
[09:41] <ben1253> histo:does these things works??
[09:41] <histo> ben1253: What things?
[09:41] <l057c0d3r> thats what im saying what things
[09:42] <l057c0d3r> if talking about buntu... yeah it works
[09:42] <histo> ben1253: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop then you can select them from the login screen
[09:42] <histo> ben1253: or you can download the lubuntu or xubuntu CDs.
[09:42] <ben1253> histo:means xfce,lxde,because i tried lxde in linux mint,but same problem appeared?
[09:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: or if you like how ubuntu used to look go with gnome-shell
[09:43] <l057c0d3r> what problem
[09:43] <histo> ben1253: allegedly they are working on better fallback support in 13.04 also.
[09:43] <histo> ben1253: What was the problem you experienced
[09:43] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: you mean gnome-panel
[09:43] <salz212> guys dumpe2fs -V gives me : Using EXT2FS Library version 1.41.12 but I need ext4 info..
[09:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: true.
[09:44] <histo> salz212: it's supposed to print the version and exit wtih -V flag
[09:44] <l057c0d3r> they need to start adding customization features back in.... unity... gnome... im talking about you
[09:44] <ben1253> histo:i got the desired graphic resolution,but yellow strips were appearing on my screen when i was trying to shutdown.
[09:44] <salz212> yes I need to know info of ext4
[09:44] <salz212> I have used -b flag -h as well nothing.
[09:44] <l057c0d3r> gdm lightdm  that goes for you too
[09:45] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:ok,thanks.
[09:45] <l057c0d3r> ben1253, only during shutdown
[09:46] <l057c0d3r> ?
[09:46] <ben1253> l057c0d3r:no,at starting too!!
[09:46] <l057c0d3r> but it worked fine while using ben1253 ?
[09:47] <Us3r_Unfriendly> what up room
[09:47] <ihoogend> hello
[09:47] <l057c0d3r> because desktop environment / windows managers have nothing to do with startup shutdown screens
[09:47] <ben1253> l057c0d3r:though it work fine? but that thing look weird!!
[09:47] <histo> salz212: I'm sure the sleuth kit has some tools that maybe valuable
[09:48] <adrianrh> hi! I have a question, how can I install something locally using the apt-get command, but without "sudo"
[09:48] <l057c0d3r> u cant?
[09:48] <jrib> adrianrh: what do you mean by "locally"?
[09:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: maybe a deb?
[09:48] <salz212> dumpe2fs -b /dev/sda1  give me dumpe2fs 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010) :(
[09:48] <histo> adrianrh: what do you mean locally?
[09:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> adrianrh: the point is moot, to install anything you need sudo, local or not
[09:48] <Touhou11> adrianrh: Re-enable the root user account, login as root
[09:48] <linusoleander> I'm trying to run the sleep calls inside the parentheses in parallel, but it don't work
[09:48] <adrianrh> jrib: I am working on a community system, and need a local installation on my home area
[09:48] <linusoleander> The script still takes 27 sec, instead of 20, what I'm I doing wrong?
[09:48] <linusoleander> time (sleep 5 && (sleep 7 ; sleep 10) && sleep 5)
[09:49] <jrib> adrianrh: you can't, really.  Ask your admin to install the software
[09:49] <histo> salz212: use lls
[09:49] <salz212> -h worked.
[09:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> Touhou11: why are you suggesting a full root login to an obvious newb?
[09:50] <salz212> but I need to know ext4 related info.. i am using fresh ubuntu
[09:50] <histo> salz212: sudo apt-get install sleuthkit  and use lls possibly?:
[09:50] <amcsi> hi
[09:51] <salz212> okay trying
[09:51] <zero_coder> hi amcsi
[09:51] <ben1253> histo:do you know,if i try lxde ubuntu in my laptop,it works properly?basically with this sis?
[09:51] <kurteknikk> Anybody knows anything about logrotate ?
[09:51] <amcsi> how do I use my gnome network manager vps's in command line?
[09:51] <llutz> !anyone | kurteknikk
[09:51] <Touhou11> ntzrmtthihu777: That's one way of accomplishing what was asked, there's nothing wrong with using the root account if one is careful
[09:51] <Us3r_Unfriendly> what's new in ubuntu these days?
[09:51] <kubuntu> histo, no go
[09:51] <histo> ben1253: I thought you said you tried it already.
[09:51] <histo> kubuntu: What happened
[09:52] <Guest85795> histo, same as usual- boots up, bails when you would see those 5 icons kinda glow or whatever.
[09:52] <Guest85795> the hard dirve etc..
[09:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> Touhou11: if said person did not know you absolutely need superusre priv's to install software said person does not need full root.
[09:52] <ben1253> histo:but i tried it in with linux mint? not ubuntu 12.04 or higher!
[09:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: you want something nice for a low-end machine?
[09:53] <kurteknikk> Hi,  i am running into this issue: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate -- error: error running shared postrotate script for '/var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log '....
[09:53] <kurteknikk> I had a look around and everybody says it's a wrong password for the user: debian-sys-maint but the password is right... Any idea what else can be wrong ?
[09:53] <histo> salz212: sory ils typoed
[09:53] <salz212> okay its installing.
[09:53] <histo> Guest85795: What do you mean bails?
[09:53] <Us3r_Unfriendly> kurteknikk: what is the actual issue?
[09:53] <llutz> kurteknikk: did you test that password? because it really is the cause of that error in most cases
[09:54] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:what kind of nice? like roseberry pi!!!
[09:54] <kurteknikk> llutz, yes i really checked the password it's 100% correct, that's why i'm asking here
[09:54] <jetole> Hey guys. I just got curious about what some of the heavy weight in terms of disk size apt/dpks packages might be based on another thread I was reading where someone just mentioned some he knew of off the top of his head. Anyways. Is there a command I can run to list all packages in the repos my system is using and show size?
[09:54] <llutz> kurteknikk: sry that  i asked ;)
[09:54] <kurteknikk> Us3r_Unfriendly, the actual issue is that i get this email daily that it goes wrong i wannt to fix it
[09:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: something purdy but lightweight, and familiar to old versions of ubuntu
[09:55] <kurteknikk> llutz, no no i understand, i asked that to myself to be sure i'm not doing something stupid
[09:55] <Us3r_Unfriendly> kurteknikk: in crontab: 2>&1
[09:55] <jetole> i.e. not just the packages I have installed though I don't know how to view either apt size or installed size on those either based on dpkg/apt application names
[09:56] <ben1253> ntzrmttihu777:do have something in your mind?please suggest it for me!
[09:56] <histo> ben1253: what happened in linux mint that didn't work?
[09:56] <Guest85795> histo, sorry- lol ill change my name
[09:56] <histo> Guest85795: /nick subcool
[09:56] <histo> SubCool: what happens when it bails? You mean it dumps to busybox?
[09:56] <SubCool> histo, correct
[09:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: you may be interested in pinguy os using the fallback mode.
[09:57] <salz212> i think i need to create/make ext4 filesystem as I dont see any such thinf already there
[09:57] <amcsi> how do I use my gnome network manager vps's in command line?
[09:57] <histo> SubCool: Now that you understand lvm. When you were installing before did you mount / /var /home /tmp to the right places?
[09:57] <SubCool> histo, yea
[09:57] <ben1253> histo:i was unable to play video,no graphic effect,white strips on shutdown and start screen!!
[09:57] <histo> SubCool: okay I'm assuming your /etc/fstab is probably jacked up. We have to take a look at that.
[09:58] <amcsi> I'm not in front of my ubuntu machine where I could connect to the vps with the icon next to the clock. I have to do it remotely through SSH and CLI. How do I do it?
[09:58] <SubCool> histo, ok- ill get into it.. give me a few
[09:58] <histo> ben1253: Depends could ahve been an issue with that kernel.
[09:58] <histo> SubCool: the /etc/fstab from the /  not the USB...
[09:58] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:i have heared it first time,would please tell about it more?
[09:59] <ben1253> histo:i tried,but no remedy!
[10:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: penguy os is a respun version of ubuntu, in other words it is ubuntu but customized already. it has a login version that is low on needs and runs quite well on my machine.
[10:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: no unity.
[10:00] <SubCool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595529 - could u check this
[10:00] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:does it play videos?
[10:01] <histo> SubCool: looks good pastebinit /mnt/etc/fstab   or if you chroot you'd have to install pastebinit
[10:02] <SubCool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595534
[10:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: it comes with all the audiovideo codecs pre-installed, so it can play most everything already.
[10:02] <litropy> What's it called again when you distribute CPU work to multiple boxes?
[10:02] <litropy> not GPU
[10:03] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:ok,i am searching about it,and i found it as "pinguy",do i am correct?
[10:03] <micjan02> are there any tools that use bluetooth PBAP?
[10:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: that should be it.
[10:03] <histo> SubCool: ahh you messed up and mounting var
[10:04] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:what about xfce and lxde version?
[10:04] <SubCool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595536
[10:04] <SubCool> histo, ill see about fixing it
[10:04] <histo> SubCool: sudo umount /mnt/var && sudo mount /dev/mapper/MyVG-Precise_var /mnt/var
[10:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: I'm just telling you about it because its similar to the ubuntu you are using right now.
[10:05] <histo> SubCool: whats the output of blkid
[10:06] <histo> SubCool: on the usb not the chroot
[10:06] <histo> SubCool: sudo blkid
[10:06] <SubCool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595538/
[10:07] <SubCool> histo, that did it - :/
[10:07] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:i know..
[10:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: I don't know about xfce very much, or lxde. I tryed both as lubuntu and xubuntu, and they were not to my liking. its all about personal preference.
[10:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: I cut my linux teeth on lucid, and I liked how it worked, so I stuck with that setup.
[10:08] <sgo11> hi, how to modify "GNU GRUB  version 2.00-7ubuntu11" top line of the grub? by googling, some people suggest to compile grub manually. but how to do that? thanks.
[10:09] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:ok,does pinguy have their own repo?
[10:09] <histo> SubCool: you can try replacing the uuid of the /dev/mapper/myvg in your /etc/fstab.  So where it now says /dev/mapper/Precise-Blah  it would say be3705de-79...  Someone else may have to chime in as to why they aren't getting mounted on boot. But this I believe is the issue right now.
[10:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> ben1253: like I said, pinguy is ubuntu. it has the ubuntu repos, and a few other ones.
[10:10] <histo> SubCool: Not sure if the default is to use uuid or dev when you are using LVM
[10:10] <SubCool> histo, let me read it- i was pretty involved when making that files..
[10:11] <histo> SubCool: It should work though with /dev/mapper being in fstab
[10:11] <SubCool> histo, its just late, and my head is spinning
[10:11] <ben1253> ntzrmtthihu777:ok,thanks for help.
[10:11] <SubCool> wait- ... it should be there to begin with
[10:12] <SubCool> give me a few- .. brb..
[10:12] <histo> SubCool: I just had an epiphany though.  Let me check something
[10:13] <tajamul> HI
[10:13] <tajamul> CAN ANYBODY HELP
[10:13] <Touhou11> tajamul: Yes, but I can't quite hear you
[10:13] <tajamul> i am new to ubuntu
[10:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> !caps | tajamul
[10:14] <histo> SubCool: can you paste bin the output of df -h
[10:14] <tajamul> though installed it sometime back
[10:15] <SubCool> histo, chroot?
[10:15] <histo> SubCool: no
[10:15] <tajamul> i am getting the problem with firefox as it shows connection reset while opening many webpages to it also opens some
[10:15] <SubCool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595553/
[10:16] <janisozaur> tajamul, perhaps your MTU is too large?
[10:16]  * cfhowlett ... MTU?
[10:16] <tajamul> has firefox got virus though used to run ok
[10:16] <spenc25> Hey I want to check that this cron will run every 2 min:
[10:16] <spenc25> */2 * * * * /home/me/bin/script.sh
[10:16] <SubCool> histo, my fstab looks fine :
[10:16] <spenc25> I want to make sure I am not making it go like every 2 sec or something
[10:16] <janisozaur> cfhowlett, tajamul https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_transmission_unit
[10:16] <tajamul> is there some antivirus for ubuntu
[10:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> tajamul: yes, clamav
[10:16] <tajamul> mtu means
[10:17] <histo> SubCool: You can almost fit everything in your /dev/mapper/MyVG-Home on another partition. Like where /dev/sda1-3 are...
[10:17] <janisozaur> tajamul, see my previous message. also, that doesn't sound like a virus
[10:17] <zAo^> spenc25, * 2 * * * * = every 2 mins
[10:17] <histo> SubCool: Yeah that's why I don't understand why you are getting dropped to busy box.
[10:17] <tajamul> thanks
[10:17] <spenc25> zAo^: thanks
[10:17] <Touhou11> zAo^: Incorrect
[10:17] <janisozaur> zAo^, no it does not
[10:17] <spenc25> ?
[10:17] <zAo^> :O
[10:18] <Touhou11> spenc25: You were correct with */2
[10:18] <spenc25> Touhoull: thanks for the correction
[10:18] <histo> SubCool: you sure you installed lvm2 and did those echo commands?
[10:18] <SubCool> yep
[10:18] <zAo^> thanks Touhou11 , sorry spenc25
[10:18] <SubCool> no errors too
[10:19] <histo> SubCool: alright chroot then aptitude reinstall ubuntu-minimal
[10:19] <tajamul> though linux has got immense possiblities to lead but as of now we have to waste a lot of time to rectify problems should be easy to use
[10:20] <histo> !av | tajamul
[10:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> tajamul: the fault is not with linux. its using a windows mentality with linux that causes most issue.
[10:20] <anonymous_> ih , i need help
[10:21] <janisozaur> !ask | anonymous_
[10:21] <cfhowlett> anonymous_: state the issue with details
[10:21] <Touhou11> tajamul: Sounds like the problem is between the chair and the keyboard
[10:21] <BrixSat> Hello
[10:22] <tajamul> i know there is no problem with linux but should be easy to use for a computer illiterate like me should reach the common man
[10:22] <anonymous_> what?
[10:22] <SubCool> histo, i cant install aptitude :/ i have a bunch of error'd installs
[10:22] <cfhowlett> BrixSat: greetings
[10:22] <histo> SubCool: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-minimal
[10:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> tajamul: I am the common man. all I know about computing I learned after switching to linux
[10:22] <histo> SubCool: no sudo sorry
[10:23] <tajamul> tried to install opera many times but fails
[10:23] <BrixSat> How do i get the output of a awk into an array? like i have $1 to $n but i donw know what n might be and i wish i could put it in an array or in some kind of foreach
[10:23] <histo> BrixSat: ask in #linux
[10:23] <BrixSat> thks
[10:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> BrixSat: or #bash
[10:23] <SubCool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595563
[10:23] <tajamul> kindly rectify this can any do this remotly
[10:24] <cfhowlett> tajamul: we are getting somewhat off-topic here.  Perhaps best to have this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:24] <histo> wth
[10:24] <histo> SubCool: was that from aptitude or apt-get?
[10:24] <SubCool> apt-get
[10:25] <andreasEr> Does anyone have a good answer to why the brightness of my laptop turns down to the bottom each time i boot? Asus K56cm
[10:25] <SubCool> histo, how do i clear those from apt-get?
[10:25] <SubCool> autoremove isnt doing it
[10:25] <tajamul> sir am having problem with firefox so am trying to install opera kindly help to rectify problem with firefox or install opera
[10:25] <histo> SubCool: how do you clear what?
[10:26] <cfhowlett> tajamul: install opera via the software center if I'm not mistaken ...
[10:26] <SubCool> histo, remove those error'd installs
[10:26] <histo> SubCool: apt-get clean && apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-minimal
[10:26] <tajamul> perhaps it is not available there now
[10:27] <histo> !info opera
[10:27] <SubCool> histo, haha- nope
[10:27] <histo> !search opera | tajamul
[10:27] <histo> !find opera | tajamul
[10:27] <histo> SubCool: Same error?
[10:27] <SubCool> histo, yep
[10:27] <histo> tajamul: you will have to install opera from the opera site then.
[10:27] <histo> tajamul: or ppa
[10:27] <histo> SubCool: wth did you do to this system.
[10:28] <cfhowlett> tajamul: see the instructions on the opera site ...
[10:28] <SubCool> histo, apt-get upgrade :/
[10:28] <SubCool> histo, ill just reinstall it again- idc
[10:28] <tajamul> downloaded deb package failed to install perhaps was incomplete so tried to redownload but failed so am again downloading it
[10:28] <SubCool> histo, the only thing i care about is /home
[10:28] <histo> ubottu: paste the /var/log/dpkg.log
[10:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: lawl
[10:28] <histo> SubCool: paste the /var/log/dpkg.log
[10:29] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: didn't type s and hit tab
[10:29] <janisozaur> tajamul, got any erros? is there sha1sum available?
[10:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: and it defaulted to ubottu ?
[10:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: oh, you mean you meant su<tab> but did u<tab>
[10:30] <tajamul> will let u know am installing a new downloaded package
[10:31] <oskude> hi, what happened to ubuntu-12.04.2-alternate-i386.iso, i cant find it on any mirror anymore?!
[10:31] <tajamul> shows problem wrong architecture amd 64 help
[10:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> oskude: direct or torrent?
[10:32] <oskude> ntzrmtthihu777: direct
[10:32] <epitamizor> how come changing init runlevels from 1 to 2 is stalling my system, its completely unresponsive
[10:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> oskude: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04.2-alternate-i386.iso
[10:32] <dr_willis> !runlevels
[10:32] <SubCool> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5595581/
[10:33] <tajamul> the opera file is in home downloads and is complete but is failing to install
[10:33] <oskude> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks! now i wonder why its not on the mirrors that are linked on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[10:33] <oskude> it was on the mirrors a week ago
[10:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> oskude: strange. I always go to releases.ubuntu.com/codename
[10:34] <tajamul> anybody help yaar
[10:34] <dr_willis> tajamul: how are yiu installing it
[10:34] <oskude> ntzrmtthihu777: and i just follow the links on ubuntu.com :P
[10:34] <zAo^> tajamul, what is the error? Did you download it for the right architecture? 32bit/64bit?
[10:34] <oskude> ntzrmtthihu777: but what ever. thanks for the link!
[10:34] <histo> SubCool: I'm at a complete loss as to why you can't reinstall ubuntu-minimal
[10:35] <histo> SubCool: perhaps someone else can chime in
[10:35] <SubCool> histo, its because of all those hanging files..
[10:35] <cfhowlett> tajamul: is your computer a 64 bit computer?
[10:35] <SubCool> histo, ill just resinstall the system :
[10:35] <SubCool> histo, and ill follow that guide with the lvm.
[10:35] <tajamul> wrong architecture 64 amd no it is 32 bit
[10:35] <dr_willis> why use lvm? ;)
[10:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: no clue, I ignored SubCool for whatever reason.
[10:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo: oh yeah, I remember.
[10:36] <nearst> hi ppls
[10:36] <TaMpeReN> ntzrmtthihu777: wats subcool?
[10:36] <cfhowlett> tajamul: so download the 32 bit version for your 32 bit computer ...
[10:37] <SubCool> dr_willis, someone helped me migrate my system a while back... a
[10:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> TaMpeReN: a person.
[10:37] <TaMpeReN> ntzrmtthihu777:  lol saw him haha , i googled thinking its a app or something
[10:38] <dr_willis> migrate from what? SubCool  you have been fighting lvm for what now? 4 days
[10:38] <SubCool> dr_willis, yep :/
[10:38] <tajamul> where will i find it as the opera site auto slects the package fit for the system
[10:38] <SubCool> dr_willis, originally it was a resolve so that i could install a few OS's on one box..
[10:38] <cfhowlett> tajamul: "other versions"
[10:39] <dr_willis> opera seems falling out if favor these days.
[10:40] <cfhowlett> dr_willis: agreed.   I need to reinstall grub because I installed Win7.  Suggestions on how to do this?
[10:42] <dr_willis> user bob    it would be  /home/bob
[10:42] <SubCool> histo, :)  i know
[10:42] <cfhowlett> !grub|Apoptosis:
[10:43] <anew> so i'm in ~ on the cli
[10:43] <anew> but i'm ftp into /home
[10:43] <anew> and there is nothing?
[10:43] <anew> wait looks like ~ is /root
[10:43] <dr_willis> anew: you ftp to /home/yourusername
[10:44] <KayAteChef> are you logged in as root?
[10:44] <dr_willis> if you ftp in as bob   it would be /home/bob
[10:44] <dr_willis> dont login directly as root...
[10:44] <anew> yes i'm ftp as root
[10:44] <anew> but i see it now as /root
[10:44] <dr_willis> thats even worse.. ;-)
[10:45] <KayAteChef> yes root user's dir is /root
[10:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> anew: if you are root and in ~ then you are in root's $HOME
[10:45] <anew> ok
[10:45] <anew> thx
[10:49] <zAo^> dr_willis, Sorry, what? ~<user>  = users homedir. ~ is current user?
[10:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> zAo^: no, ~ is the homedir, for root its /root, for any othe user its /home/$USER
[10:50] <zAo^> ntzrmtthihu777, didnt I say that? :$
[10:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> zAo^: not quite. you called ~ the current user, it is not. it is that users home
[10:51] <zAo^> ntzrmtthihu777, ... Yeah. I meant that.
[10:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone know a way to get the total size of all files in a directory from the command line?
[10:52] <zAo^> ntzrmtthihu777, du -m (or -sm) /path
[10:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> zAo^: thankya, cuz i have so many files in this one dir nautilus does not know what to say, lol
[10:53] <zAo^> omg
[10:53] <tajamul123> still not able to install opera
[10:54] <zAo^> ntzrmtthihu777, there are limits to du (or the shell for that matter) too
[10:54] <cfhowlett> tajamul123: details...
[10:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> zAo^: I understand that.
[10:55] <tajamul123> architecture error amd 64
[10:56] <llutz> tajamul123: "uname -m" says what?
[10:56] <cfhowlett> tajamul123: hey, taj.  Did you NOT state that your computer is 32 bit?  64 bit will NOT run.  get the 32 bit version.  it's on the site!
[10:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> cfhowlett: heh, dontcha hate that.
[10:57] <tajamul123> but the site auto selects the package fit for ur computer
[10:57] <dr_willis> so its
[10:57] <dr_willis> ..wrong...
[10:57] <tajamul123> 32 bit package is not available perhaps
[10:58] <cfhowlett> tajamul123: please read this time..  you can select the OTHER VERSIONS available on the download page
[10:58] <cfhowlett> tajamul123: and 32 bit was there when I verified 20 minutes ago ...
[10:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> tajamul123: machines can make mistakes.
[10:58] <llutz> tajamul123: http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?os=linux-i386&ver=12.14&local=y
[10:59] <llutz> tajamul123: guess what "Show other versions" mean if you see the one offered to you is the wrong one
[11:00] <Touhou11> tajamul123: If you're not very good with computers, you're probably better off staying with Windows or Mac
[11:00] <vlad_starkov> Question: I'm newbie to Ubuntu server. What version should I install for using next 2 years: 12.04.2LTS or 12.10?
[11:00] <dr_willis> it wants me to download the android version...  ;-)
[11:00] <dr_willis> bbl
[11:01] <cfhowlett> vlad_starkov: 12.04 will be supported for 5 years ... LTS
[11:01] <cfhowlett> !lts|vlad_starkov:
[11:01] <Touhou11> vlad_starkov: LTS - often when you download enterprise type software, they only support LTS releases
[11:02] <vlad_starkov> Touhou11: is there big difference between 12.04 and 12.10?
[11:02] <zAo^> vlad_starkov, no
[11:02] <mote> Hi. I'm trying to get at switch working with chromium-browser, "--app-window-size=w,h". but can get it to work. Where go i go to get help?
[11:02] <vlad_starkov> zAo^: so if I'll buy the book about 12.10 it's ok for me to use 12.04?
[11:02] <ikonia> mote: does it support that flag ?
[11:03] <cfhowlett> mote: #google or #chromium might be channels
[11:03] <mote> ikonia i sez several places..
[11:03] <ikonia> eG: 120,80
[11:03] <ikonia> mote: and I assume you're actually using numbers instead of w,h
[11:03] <zAo^> vlad_starkov, most of it should do, yes. But why not upgrade?
[11:03] <cfhowlett> tajamul123: chrome or chromium are in the ubuntu software center if you wanted to try that browser ...
[11:03] <mote> cfhowlett trying already
[11:03] <ikonia> mote: where does it say it supports that flag
[11:03] <mote> ikonia yes ;-)
[11:04] <ikonia> mote: sorry to ask the obvious question, but it's a common mistake
[11:04] <mote> ikonia "chromium-browser --app-window-size=400,400"
[11:04] <mote> ikonia i know. ;-)
[11:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> zAo^: those options you had me pas to du, what did they di
[11:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> *do
[11:04] <vlad_starkov> zAo^: what do you mean about upgradeing?
[11:04] <zAo^> ntzrmtthihu777, -s = summary, -m = in megabytes. Other than that: man du
[11:05] <mote> ikonia it is probably something like that i'm doing wrong anyway
[11:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> zAo^: ah, so I have 69+ gigs of text files
[11:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> *6.9
[11:05] <ikonia> mote: just looking for an official google page showing it supports that option
[11:05] <zAo^> ntzrmtthihu777, omg!?
[11:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> zAo^: part of a $50 job.
[11:06] <tajamul123> sorry didnt know i386 means 32 bit
[11:07] <TaMpeReN> i need help i wanna access a shared folder on windows from ubuntu
[11:07] <TaMpeReN> how to ?
[11:07] <mote> ikonia there must be some way to define windows size anyway
[11:07] <ikonia> mote: I'm sure there is, I just can't see your option as a valid parameter
[11:07] <cfhowlett> tajamul123: REALLY suggest you install a browser via the software center ...
[11:07] <mjayk> TaMpeReN do you know what samba is ?
[11:07] <ikonia> mote: can you do a chromium-browser --help see what the options are
[11:07] <TaMpeReN> nope lemme google
[11:08] <mjayk> TaMpeReN ok sure it is the program or service that manages network shares
[11:09] <mote> ikonia there's ALOT of switches.. ;-)
[11:09] <ikonia> mote: no doubt
[11:10] <mote> ikonia it does not say it does
[11:11] <VinceThePrince> is it possible to alias an path? like bla = "~/sites/bla/" ? because that does not work
[11:12] <mote> ikonia would i need to use a gtk switch?
[11:13] <Kartagis> VinceThePrince: alias bla='cd ~/sites/bla' would work
[11:14] <llutz> VinceThePrince: not an alias, but you'd define a var "bla = "~/sites/bla/"   " echo $bla"
[11:15] <VinceThePrince> Kartagis, llutz thanks !
[11:16] <mote> ikonia gtg. thanks anyway.
[11:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> does /root even really need a Desktop dir?
[11:17] <Onixs> is this the proper way to make an ISO bootable > mkisofs -o /NEW.iso -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -r -J CUSTOM_ISO_FOLDER
[11:17] <Touhou11> Of course, for when the root user logs in
[11:18] <rndbit> ntzrmtthihu777, i dont think anyone runs x session on root, unless you are on backtrack or something
[11:18] <mojtaba> Hi, how can I change the $ in the command prompt to #?
[11:18] <Onixs> hey Kartagis :)
[11:18] <Onixs> wazup man
[11:18] <mojtaba> I mean change the user to root
[11:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> Touhou11: with all due respect your opinions on running on root are not what i want to hear
[11:18] <cfhowlett> !root|mojtaba:
[11:18] <llutz> "sudo -i"
[11:18] <llutz> mojtaba:
[11:19] <rndbit> anyone know how to unbind window key? i think some left-over service keeps it bound and cant use it in kde properly.
[11:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> rndbit: no, no backtrack on this machine atm.
[11:19] <Kartagis> nothing much, you Onixs?
[11:19] <Onixs> Kartagis : yup :)
[11:19] <Onixs> good
[11:19] <deaw12> .
[11:19] <mojtaba> I use su and then gave my password which I use with sudo, but It gave me authentication failure
[11:19] <Touhou11> Some people just can't handle the power of root I guess
[11:19] <ikonia> mojtaba: don't use su
[11:19] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I do that?
[11:19] <ikonia> mojtaba: the command is sudo -i
[11:19] <rndbit> mojtaba, i had this, check keyboard layout
[11:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: why?
[11:19] <mojtaba> ikonia: what should I do?
[11:20] <Onixs> got a little proble how to make it bootable
[11:20] <Onixs>  mkisofs -o /NEW.iso -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -r -J CUSTOM_ISO_FOLDER
[11:20] <ikonia> mojtaba: the root account is looked, so su will not work.
[11:20] <llutz> mojtaba: start reading what people answer to you
[11:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> mojtaba: should be sudo su, actualy\
[11:20] <mojtaba> I want to navigate through lost+found directory
[11:20] <llutz> ntzrmtthihu777: no it shouldn't
[11:20] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: it it should not
[11:20] <Onixs> but can't!
[11:20] <ikonia> mojtaba: sudo -i is the correct command
[11:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> Touhou11: no need for root access on this box. not my bactrack machine.
[11:21] <mojtaba> ikonia: thanks
[11:22] <Soham_> hi
[11:23] <linusoleander_> Is there a way make a script block?
[11:23] <linusoleander_> I don't want it to exist
[11:23] <ikonia> linusoleander_: sorry, could you try to explain what you want again please.
[11:24] <linusoleander_> I want to run a script that doesn't exist
[11:24] <ikonia> linusoleander_: why ?
[11:24] <ikonia> linusoleander_: how can you expect to run something that doesn't exist ?
[11:24] <linusoleander_> sleep 5 for example returns exit status 0 after 5 sec
[11:24] <linusoleander_> I don't want that
[11:24] <ikonia> linusoleander_: what do you want then ?
[11:25] <linusoleander_> I want it to execute some code then block and not exit unit ctrl-c
[11:25] <llutz> linusoleander_: read -p "Press any key to exit..."
[11:25] <linusoleander_> llutz: That works, thanks!
[11:26] <llutz> ... where is my anykey....
[11:28] <TaMpeReN> how can i access a shared window's file using ubunti
[11:28] <TaMpeReN> samba seems to work otherway around
[11:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> TaMpeReN: you can use samba on ubuntu, not sure the method but its doable
[11:29] <llutz> TaMpeReN: smbclient you need, not samba
[11:30] <IDROFOX> can i add format option in right click menu for all drives in ubuntu 12.10 ?
[11:30] <TaMpeReN> llutz: i did that too
[11:30] <TaMpeReN> llutz: smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/Shows
[11:30] <TaMpeReN> but it wont open
[11:30] <TaMpeReN> llutz: after installing
[11:31] <TaMpeReN> llutz: i ping that computer its working
[11:31] <Touhou11> IDROFOX: Yes
[11:31] <llutz> TaMpeReN: smbclient -L //<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:31] <mjayk> TaMpeReN you  have to configure stuff like your worgroup etc using smb
[11:32] <icesword> !ime
[11:32] <IDROFOX> Touhou11:Like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/236137/how-to-add-right-click-format-option-to-a-disk-icon-in-the-launcher ?
[11:32] <icesword> !input method
[11:33] <TaMpeReN> llutz: that worked
[11:33] <TaMpeReN> llutz: but now got the workgroup thing
[11:34] <icesword> !ficixt
[11:36] <tajamul01236> finally suceeded in installing opera mini
[11:36] <burtonium> hi everyone, I am using pyrit for wifi password testing :D with nvidia gpu. After running pyrit and stopping it, graphics get changed almost like sephia mode? anyone have any clue why is this happening? or had the same problem?
[11:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> burtonium: wrong channel
[11:36] <burtonium> why? i am using ubuntu
[11:37] <burtonium> otherwise i would ask on backtrack
[11:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> burtonium: still, that is not what we do here.
[11:37] <burtonium> i don't get it? what part is the problematic question?
[11:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> burtonium: and quite frankly I don't understand why anyone uses those tools on anything but backtrack.
[11:38] <burtonium> pyrit? or nvidia gpu? or wifi pass testing?
[11:38] <burtonium> because i can
[11:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> burtonium: all three, in fact.
[11:38] <burtonium> i haven't seen you here before really so i don't trust you
[11:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> burtonium: says the wannabe cracker.
[11:39] <burtonium> you wanna be cracker?
[11:39] <mjayk> burtonium I dont know the answer to your question but I dont see a problem with it.  I had a similar problem with ATI on F17 whenever I ran fullscreen programs and exited them all my fonts would disappear
[11:40] <mjayk> so not really similar differnt card and differnt os lol
[11:40] <one> Bry8Star{EB: hi
[11:40] <burtonium> @mjayk: ty for info
[11:40] <burtonium> mjayk: ty
[11:41] <Bry8Star{EB> hi , one
[11:42] <faLUCE> hello. I have a windows 8 guest on virtualbox under linux (ubuntu, with pulseaudio). when playing audio, I hear some clicks. Is there a way to improve that?
[11:42] <fishsponge> how can I tell the "find" command to search /dir/ for something, but tell it not to search through /dir/snapshots/ ?
[11:43] <fishsponge> for example, I have    /dir/a/    /dir/b/    /dir/c/    and    /dir/snapshots/     - I want to search /dir/ for something, but not go through all the snapshots directory at all - it will take way too long...
[11:46] <Capprentice> Hey anyone knows how get aero efferts on Ubuntu 12 ?
[11:46] <tajamul01236> should i upgrade to ubuntu 12.10
[11:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: most come with unity.
[11:46] <Capprentice> Nope.
[11:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> tajamul01236: no.
[11:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: what sort of effects
[11:46] <mjayk> Capprentice do you mean how to manage the visual effects  ?
[11:46] <tajamul01236> why
[11:47] <Capprentice> Like when I hover an application icon on launcher panel, it has to display the contentents.
[11:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> tajamul01236: because its only supported for another year or so. 12.04 is supported for the next 4 years
[11:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Capprentice: ah I remember that.
[11:47] <idrofox> ubuntu 13.04 for pc released ?
[11:48] <mjayk> idrofox yes
[11:48] <llutz> nonsense, 13.04  ~ april 2013
[11:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> mjayk: isn't it still a bit early
[11:48] <idrofox> mjayk:but it's not in download section of offical ubuntu site ?
[11:49] <tajamul01236> thanks but im a home pc user so dosents matter will upgrade again when another lts ver releases later  give me other reasons
[11:49] <llutz> idrofox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[11:49] <mjayk> idrofox imy bad its not yet what llutz said
[11:49] <Touhou11> Will 13.04 have a new default theme?
[11:49] <idrofox> ok thx
[11:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> tajamul01236: ok, because 12.10 is not lts
[11:50] <tajamul01236> compare 12.04 and 12.10 capability wise
[11:50] <s9iper1> can we use ultra iso to make bootbale ubuntu usb ???
[11:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> s9iper1: from what os
[11:50] <idrofox> can i install updates in ubuntu iso without redownloading it again ?
[11:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> idrofox: you mean 12.04.2?
[11:51] <s9iper1> ntzrmtthihu777: windows 7
[11:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> s9iper1: I used unetbootin to do mine
[11:52] <s9iper1> unetbootin works finr ?
[11:52] <s9iper1> fine
[11:52] <idrofox> i mean that when i installed ubuntu 12.10 from iso, i updated my ubuntu using software updater. Now i want to put those new installed updates from installed ubuntu to ubuntu iso ?
[11:52] <s9iper1> ?
[11:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> s9iper1: it worked fine for me.
[11:52] <s9iper1> ok
[11:53] <mjayk> idrofox you want to create a new iso of you install with the updates installed ?
[11:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> s9iper1: although as you can fit the whole ubuntu iso on a plain cd-rw I dont see why not use that.
[11:53] <idrofox> mjayk:yes i want to created a new iso with all new updates installed so i don't have to download them again next time i install ubuntu again..
[11:54] <mjayk> you can use dd pathofcurrentinstall pathtonewiso to create an iso of ur hdd
[11:54] <mjayk> or ur install depending on how you setup the parameters
[11:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> mjayk: would that work if he was inside the current install?
[11:55] <mjayk> ntzrmtthihu777 not to my knowage no
[11:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> mjayk: then it would be a good idea to pass that info along
[11:55] <idrofox> hmm i will try thanks
[11:56] <mjayk> ntzrmtthihu777 i assume a basic level of competence / the ability to google
[11:56] <mjayk> ntzrmtthihu777 so I would say it was good info to pass.  Cheers for your input though
[11:58] <jery>  :) hello
[11:59] <rmannibucau> hi guys
[11:59] <rmannibucau> is it the right channel to ask package (deb)?
[12:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> rmannibucau: close enough. what you want?
[12:00] <rmannibucau> i would like to ask for a tomee package (since tomcat package exists tomee one would be enough to do)
[12:01] <peco> #channels
[12:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> rmannibucau: did you ever just google for tomee launchpad?
[12:01] <dr_willis> !find tomee
[12:01] <kurteknikk> Hi, i earlier asked about the issue in logrotate and somebody suggested to add  2>&1 to the command. Does anybody know why the logrotate for mysql is failing ?
[12:02] <rmannibucau> last time i didnt find anything
[12:02] <dr_willis> !ppa
[12:02] <dr_willis> search the ppas for it?
[12:03] <jery> what is that?
[12:03] <rmannibucau> ntzrmtthihu777, IIRC tomcat is in default packages so wondered if tomee could be
[12:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> rmannibucau: no clue about tomee or tomcat. I gott go, time to eat.
[12:04] <rmannibucau> have a nice lunch
[12:04] <davis776> hello, why this settings does not work? disk never goes to stand by. It should not be used - can I check it somewhere? http://i.imgur.com/7MKAxdQ.png
[12:06] <Capprentice> How to fix gnome-screenshot tool double flickering ?
[12:07] <Capprentice> its a known bug. Is there any workaround for this  ? I dont like flashing my screen two times after taking one screenshot
[12:07] <llutz> kurteknikk:  run "logrotate -dv -f /etc/logrotate.d/mysql-server" and watch for issues
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> how can i clone a 1tb data drive with ubuntu to another empty drive?
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> (as fast as possible)
[12:15] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Either dd or ddrescue for the whole drive or rsync for the mounted file systems.
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> vlt: tnx ill try with dd
[12:16] <vlt> lotuspsychje: If the file system is nearly completely filled use dd (or ddrescue which is more efficient), otherwise consider mounting and just copying files (with rsync).
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> vlt: would this be the right command: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=32M
[12:18] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Yes.
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> vlt: tnx mate
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> vlt: how fast would that clone the drive?
[12:18] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Mind that the target drive should be at least as big as the source if you do it this way.
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> vlt: yes its for excact 1tb mediadrive cloning all its content
[12:19] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Speed depends on your system. About 100 MB/s I’d estimate.
[12:19] <CatKiller> lotuspsychje: Quite fast, but be aware that if the drive has *any* badblocks on it the whole process will fail
[12:19] <dekroning> is it possible to also redirect all trafic destinationed port 80 to be rerouted via my transparent proxyserver running on localhost 8080 with ufw, or do I need to use iptables?
[12:19] <vlt> lotuspsychje: `fdisl -l /dev/sd?` should give you the exact sizes
[12:19] <CatKiller> lotuspsychje: You'll be able to restart it from where it left off, but after doing some basic maths to compute where exactly it left off and where you restart it
[12:19] <vlt> lotuspsychje: *fdisk
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> Catkiller: its not for a system drive (both external mediaplayer drives
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> but ill clone them from ubuntu
[12:20] <CatKiller> lotuspsychje: Doesn't matter, you can still have badblocks on it
[12:20] <CatKiller> lotuspsychje: If you do, the whole "dd" process will exit, and you'll have to work around the badblock
[12:20] <calwig> hi what is the gnome manager for pgp?
[12:20] <CatKiller> lotuspsychje: ddrescue is usually recommended if you've got the slightest doubt about the health of the HD
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> CatKiller: well ill check the drive first with photorec
[12:21] <CatKiller> No need, you'd be wasting time
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> oh
[12:21] <CatKiller> either use "dd" if you're pretty sure the drive is still good
[12:21] <CatKiller> or use "ddrescue"
[12:21] <CatKiller> ddrescue does the same thing as dd
[12:22] <CatKiller> but with more focus on recovery (it allows errors)
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> CatKiller: ok tnx
[12:22] <CatKiller> In fact ddrescue is usually better because it's more aimed at recovery and duplication
[12:22] <CatKiller> Will do the same thing, at about the same speed as dd
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> !info ddrescue > lotuspsychje
[12:22] <CatKiller> ddrescue indrive outdrive logfile
[12:23] <CatKiller> It's pretty good actually
[12:23] <CatKiller> dd is a bit ageing
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> !info gddrescue > lotuspsychje
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> CatKiller: ok cool ill try that1
[12:24] <CatKiller> no worries
[12:24] <calwig> how do i see my keyring?
[12:26] <Taev> some one help me please, i installed ubuntu and now i can't boot to windows via grub
[12:26] <Taev> i select windows 7 loader, i get a windows repair thing, i try to rescue, it goes back to the same menu
[12:26] <Taev> when i try boot normally
[12:26] <Taev> it just restarts
[12:26] <Fanshawe> Hello everyone. I'm trying to use get_iplayer but only get 'rtmp server sent error' messages in return. The readout is frustratingly short, but I've put it on pastebin anyway: http://pastebin.com/NvQE5H0p
[12:27] <calwig> Taev, do you get the grub menu?
[12:27] <Taev> yes and its loading windows
[12:27] <Taev> but it says windows is damaged
[12:27] <calwig> what do you want to do, repair windows or get to linux?
[12:28] <artrei> hi all i think i'm missing /usr/bin/compiz file, how to fix this?
[12:28] <Taev> i can get to linux, i can't get to windows
[12:28] <Taev> this started after the ubuntu install
[12:28] <calwig> Taev, did ubuntu install on the same partition as windows?
[12:28] <Taev> i created 2 partitions on the same drive
[12:29] <Taev> i used to have the MBR for windows on a separate HD
[12:29] <Taev> but i got lazy
[12:29] <calwig> Taev, have you pressed F8 in Windows to repair?
[12:29] <cfhowlett> Taev: so a dual boot, not windows installer/wubi ... right?
[12:29] <Taev> yes it says loading files
[12:29] <Taev> then back to repair screen
[12:29] <Taev> no matter how many times i click repair
[12:29] <jony> in Double Commander how can be set a network share shortcut?
[12:29] <Taev> when i click boot normally
[12:29] <Taev> the system reboots
[12:29] <cfhowlett> Taev: try reinstalling grub ...
[12:30] <cfhowlett> !recovery|taev
[12:30] <cfhowlett> !grub|taev
[12:30] <Taev> i can boot ubuntu just fine
[12:30] <cfhowlett> Taev: ignore the first factoid
[12:30] <Taev> its messed up windows
[12:30] <Taev> windows told me to come here
[12:30] <calwig> Taev, so ubuntu is working just fine, but windows is screwed, then it isnt a grub issue is it cfhowlett ?
[12:30] <calwig> ah
[12:30] <cfhowlett> Taev: of course they did .... boot the windows cd and repair.  then reinstall grub
[12:30] <calwig> ignore
[12:31] <calwig> yeah what i would do
[12:31] <calwig> cfhowlett, what is the keyring in kubuntu?
[12:31] <calwig> no one is answering in #kubuntu
[12:31] <calwig> keyring daemon
[12:32] <cfhowlett> calwig: keyring is keyring as I understand it ... distro agnositc utility
[12:32] <artrei> anyone know how to fix if /usr/bin/compiz missing?
[12:33] <calwig> i mean what is the gui app to import/export keys
[12:33] <cfhowlett> calwig: thinking
[12:33] <calwig> Oran, servus
[12:34] <cfhowlett> calwig: should appear on your system menu - possibly settings ...
[12:34] <cfhowlett> calwig: as I am on xubuntu, IDK
[12:34] <calwig> cfhowlett, cuz boy i cant find it, i presume i can use a gnome manager, which should be the same
[12:34] <calwig> okies
[12:34] <fatninja> I hear a microphone crackling sound , my voice is ok but there is also a disturbing noise, which on Windows it is not present. I am using Ubuntu 12.10
[12:34] <cfhowlett> calwig: sorry
[12:34] <fatninja> Anyone experienced this ? Or knows a solution ?
[12:34] <calwig> cfhowlett, thanks, np
[12:36] <dr_willis> could be driver issues fatninja  - checked the forums and askubuntu.com for your exact chipset?
[12:37] <jony> I need help with Double Commander and network shares
[12:38] <dr_willis> in what way?
[12:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> and back
[12:40] <fatninja> dr_willis, it's similar to https://friendly.ubuntu.com/12.04/Gigabyte%20Technology%20Co.,%20Ltd./GA-970A-UD3/A:CGyp:GsM:BEG:B8L:B8Lp:Zo:BHe:D5D:BWA/
[12:41] <fatninja> but still the crackling sound when I put the mic in :(
[12:41] <fatninja> I'm starting to think I don't know how to search
[12:43] <Fanshawe> Hi again everyone, I don't think I was clear at first so I'll post again. I'm trying to use get_iplayer but only get 'rtmp server sent error' messages in return. The readout is frustratingly short, but I've put it on pastebin anyway: http://pastebin.com/NvQE5H0p. Can anyone help me get the 'get_iplayer' command working? Or is there a support channel for specific stuff like this? Thank you.
[12:50] <zamba> i have a question about rsyslog.. i want to output the different log files for the different hosts into individual files.. how can i do this?
[12:50] <pseudonymous> Anyone know how to check what options a module is loaded with ? I hope to pass along some values to ZFS via modprobe and I'd like to assure myself that it gets picked up on.
[12:50] <llutz> zamba: http://www.rsyslog.com/article60/
[12:55] <sotelio> pseudonymous, maybe in /sys/module/{module}/parameters :s
[12:58] <pseudonymous> sotelio: yes! Cool (!) I didn't even know of that at all.. In my case it turned out that /sys/module/zfs/parameters has a file for each param containing its value
[12:59] <sotelio> :D
[13:00] <phaidros> I am having troubles an can't solve them, tried hours of howtos, but no go :/ .. trying to boot a VM with crypted lvm, all so far ok, tho the initrd just doesn't ask for the encryption key, it just hangs after: "udevd[88]: starting version 175" .. when using init=/bin/sh as kernel param I get to see the pw request. I thought with 12.04 this is more or less ootb? (I didnt use the installer, as this is a headless server)
[13:00] <Taev> anyone want to know how i fixed my issue?
[13:00] <Taev> for some reason Ubuntu keeps hanging when i have ACPI on
[13:00] <phaidros> any hints on where to looks if the pw request in initrd is missing?
[13:00] <Taev> so i disabled it in boot
[13:00] <Taev> Windows seems to require it
[13:00] <phaidros> Taev: ACPI has strange issues with some HW, I have servers which I have to boot with esotheric settings like "acpi=ht" ..
[13:01] <phaidros> is there any useful way to debug iinitrd?
[13:02] <phaidros> "error: unexpectedly disconnected from boot status daemon" is the one warning I get when using init=/bin/sh
[13:02] <c2tarun> What is difference between $0.0 and Free application in Ubuntu Software Center.
[13:03] <phaidros> c2tarun: I'd guess the license
[13:04] <Taev> so any fix then?
[13:04] <Taev> instead of having to shut ACPI off and turning it on whenever i want to dual boot
[13:05] <janisozaur> when compiling busybox (ARCH=arm), 'let' is missing, is there any config that enables this applet?
[13:05] <c2tarun> phaidros, what do you mean? with $0.0 also we don't have to pay anything, but we have to create some account and put our credit card details there.
[13:06] <phaidros> Taev: acpi=ht helped on that specific hardware to *not* let the machine die in the reboot process :)
[13:06] <nicktopus> So I have my new install of Ubuntu and I plug in my Android phone and it shows up as a media device, fine. It only shows that I have 512 megabytes of storage left, where as really it is more like 10 gigabytes. Why is that?
[13:06] <Taev> well where do i put that?
[13:06] <phaidros> c2tarun: I honestly don't know
[13:06] <phaidros> Taev: which ubuntu version?
[13:06] <dr_willis> c2tarun:  GPL license vs free comercial software
[13:06] <Taev> 12.4.02
[13:06] <phaidros> Taev: check /etc/default/grub
[13:07] <phaidros> c2tarun: .. ^ what dr_willis said :)
[13:07] <c2tarun> dr_willis, ok, but isn't it little risky to give credit card details when even we don't have to pay.
[13:13] <MorpheuxNL> goodafternoon
[13:13] <davis776> how to check disk usage? external disk never goes stand by
[13:13] <MorpheuxNL> i build a ubuntu minimal + cinnamon install. this all went fine
[13:14] <MorpheuxNL> but on boot my network is not loading and when logged in i can get it up easily. could someone point me in the right direction to get it up on boot
[13:17] <sonOfRa> Is it possible to turn off the sound ubuntu makes when power is disconnected/connected from a laptop?
[13:17] <sonOfRa> I'm currently on a train, and the power outlets are seemingly not to stable, and it keeps disconnecting
[13:17] <rexwin_> davis776 , df -Th
[13:17] <sonOfRa> and I'm getting this rather loud and annoying beep about every other minute or two
[13:19] <Conqueror> Hello, we have a problem at wifi card. We laptop models is hp envy dv6-7200et. How do I unblock hard block on ubuntu?
[13:19] <Conqueror> http://askubuntu.com/questions/225898/how-do-i-turn-on-wireless-adapter-on-hp-envy-dv6-7200-under-ubuntu-any-version
[13:19] <MorpheuxNL> anyone any suggestions concerning my problem. i do see in my interfaces file that eth0 and wlan0 both are not mentioned
[13:23] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: how are you setting up the network config
[13:23] <one> MorpheuxNL: let me read the problem
[13:24] <fire> how can i change the language from cli ?
[13:24] <one> MorpheuxNL: there may be a hardware switch
[13:24] <one> MorpheuxNL: check the bios also
[13:25] <ikonia> one: ??? why would it be the bios
[13:25] <ikonia> one: he can up the interface when he logs in
[13:25] <ikonia> it's just not auto starting
[13:25] <MorpheuxNL> ikonia, i just installed ubuntu minimal with cinnamon. and the thing is after it boots and i open up network settings i can connect to my wifi. but if i look in my interfaces file there is nothing mentioned about eth0 and wlan0 should it not be there
[13:25] <MorpheuxNL> one, i did check bios and it is always on
[13:25] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: how are you actually configuing it ? using network-manager ?
[13:25] <IzzoDizzo> MorpheuxNL, its handled by network manager
[13:25] <one> ikonia: oh it is only a boottime problem?
[13:26] <ikonia> IzzoDizzo: if you are using network manager, your interfaces file should be empty
[13:26] <ikonia> oops
[13:26] <MorpheuxNL> ikonia, let me check what it is
[13:26] <ikonia> sorry that was for MorpheuxNL
[13:26] <IzzoDizzo> ikonia, thats what he says ? :)
[13:26] <IzzoDizzo> ah
[13:27] <MorpheuxNL> i think it is network-manager that i am using. it looks like cinnamon is using that to
[13:27] <backVil> quit
[13:27] <one> MindSpark: finally reinforcments have arrived
[13:27] <phaidros> sonOfRa: put headphone jack in ;)
[13:27] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: ok, so that is expected then
[13:27] <MindSpark> one: haha
[13:27] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: the interfaces file should be empty
[13:27] <MorpheuxNL> i also read the log and saw this line
[13:27] <MindSpark> what's the topic?
[13:28] <MorpheuxNL> Mar  8 13:58:22 cinnamonbox NetworkManager[1928]:    SCPlugin-Ifupdown: device added (path: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:03:00.0/net/wlan0, iface: wlan0): no ifupdown configuration found.
[13:28] <MorpheuxNL> i think it has to do with that
[13:28] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: looks like it's not got the config saves/stored
[13:28] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: which makes sense why you can set it up after you login
[13:28] <MorpheuxNL> should i reinstall network-manager
[13:29] <one> MorpheuxNL: needs an ifup file written
[13:29] <MorpheuxNL> ok and how do i get an ifup file written?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:30] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: they should be in place for network manager already
[13:30] <hapster> anyone able to get nouveau working with bumblebee for Ubuntu 12.10?
[13:30] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: I suspect you have not got all the packages in place
[13:31] <one> cat /etc/network/interfaces
[13:32] <one> MindSpark: you pick
[13:32] <MorpheuxNL> ikonia, how do i find out what i am missing
[13:33] <MindSpark> I am currently on a mac and I only have ssh access to an ubuntu server to check… not dure if it has network-manager running on it
[13:34] <one> MindSpark: better to not go with network manager it gives more binaries root access
[13:35] <MindSpark> never did much harm though, as long as it's the desktop system I guess?
[13:35] <one> MindSpark: I kept getting ssh mitm when connecting to an amazon VM
[13:35] <MindSpark> I don't even have it installed on the server, neither do I have X
[13:35] <MorpheuxNL> could it be dbus related
[13:35] <MindSpark> mitm?
[13:35] <one> MindSpark: man in the middle
[13:36] <MorpheuxNL> ikonia, could it be dbus related?
[13:36] <MindSpark> oh… interesting...
[13:36] <one> MindSpark: amazon is part of the beast the whore rides on
[13:36] <kgalahassa> please, i have a problem when i'm configuring my ubuntu one count
[13:37] <MindSpark> one: elaborate on that. How did you have a mitm through network-manager?
[13:37] <one> MindSpark: no ssh, it kept dropping and doing a tracepath it would get rerouted
[13:37] <kgalahassa> it ask me to enter a password to your login keyring
[13:38] <one> MindSpark: amazon needs to be destroyed
[13:38] <kgalahassa> i have a problem when i'm configuring my ubuntu one countit ask me to enter a password to your login keyring
[13:38] <MindSpark> one:  rerouted to where? I have a microinstance running too. Better get some protection
[13:39] <kgalahassa> i have a problem when i'm configuring my ubuntu one countit ask me to enter a password to your login keyring
[13:39] <one> MindSpark: one interruption in the connection and ther key is grabbed
[13:39] <kgalahassa> i have a problem when i'm configuring my ubuntu one count  it ask me to enter a password to my login keyring
[13:40] <one> im like a raisin in the sun im running from deaths invasion
[13:40] <cfhowlett> !patience|kgalahassa:
[13:40] <one> its like locutus trying to get into the borg cube and enter a sleep command
[13:41] <MindSpark> but that must be a flaw in ssh, nothing to do with amazon. no?
[13:41] <MorpheuxNL> ikonia, could it be dbus related
[13:42] <one> MindSpark: no but di you see the black friday behind the sceens, keep feeding the whore with plastic garbage
[13:42] <lmat> I attached a device to my ubuntu computer, but I don't see it showing up. (I'm running headless).
[13:42] <one> it makes one want to puke
[13:42] <lmat> I don't know much about this machine, and it has some configuration previously, so I'm doing a bit of investigative work.
[13:42] <one> crossroads one million miles whats the flashpoint
[13:43] <lmat> I look at fstab and it shows    uuid=8 (for brevity)  /  ext4 ...
[13:43] <one> someone is trolling a seal beyond the flashpoint of a nuclear reactor
[13:43] <lmat> uuid=f   none   swap    and   uuid=a   /root/backup   ext4   auto
[13:43] <one> not of the 7
[13:43] <lmat> So I look up those uuids in     /dev/disk/by-uuid
[13:43] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: is there anything to suggest it's dbus related ?
[13:43] <ikonia> lmat: nothing should be mounted on /root
[13:43] <lmat> ikonia: heh...
[13:43] <lmat> ikonia: why?
[13:44] <ikonia> lmat: because the root user is locked on Ubuntu, so nothing can get to it
[13:44] <TaMpeReN> anyone can help me with  smbclient
[13:44] <lmat> ikonia: (happily, I didn't put it there, so I'll deflect your wrath to the previous admin)
[13:44] <MindSpark> one: hehe. what would you recommend then?
[13:44] <foo357> Hello, I have a computer running 12.04 where a disk has partintioned as one partition for / and another for /home . I'm just wondering, can I safely shrink the / filesystem and enlarge the /home one?
[13:44] <MorpheuxNL> ikonia, well it does not apper to be becauste it tries to load but there is no ifup file or something
[13:44] <TaMpeReN> i cant seems to access my desktop's shared file
[13:44] <one> ikonia: no theres things running as root its only the keyboard that cant get to it
[13:44] <ikonia> lmat: no wrath, just trying to help and make sure you don't lock your self out of the file system
[13:44] <ikonia> one: the root account is locked - please read what I said
[13:45] <ikonia> MorpheuxNL: dbus does not provide the ifup files
[13:45] <lmat> ikonia: I'm in the /root/backup dir now... ls reveals  "lost+found  nohup.out  rsync
[13:45] <lmat> "
[13:45] <one> MindSpark: have to stand strong its coming to the final battle
[13:45] <cfhowlett> !OT|one:
[13:46] <mishke_> never, listen, NEVER, dont instalt ubuntu on netbooks
[13:46] <lmat> okay, so, checking the uuids reveals that  uuid=8  is md1, uuid=a is sdc1  and uuid=f is md0.
[13:46] <ikonia> mishke_: please stop with general warnings
[13:46] <mishke_> its lag many than windows on calculator
[13:46] <mishke_> ikonia, its mega lag, i panic!
[13:46] <lmat> ~panic
[13:46] <lmat> doh
[13:47] <ikonia> mishke_: that's fine - so "you" have a problem, we can try to help you, but pleaes don't tell people not to do it
[13:47] <cfhowlett> mishke_: see interface between keyboard and display
[13:47] <lmat> Is it odd that there's no sda or sdb in fstab?
[13:47] <cfhowlett> mishke_: for netbooks, lubuntu or xubuntu are optimized moreso than ubuntu
[13:47] <TaMpeReN> anyone knows how to resolve the smbclient issue i have
[13:47] <ikonia> lmat: no, you are using uuid's
[13:47] <mishke_> cfhowlett, canonical say's its work good on netbooks, i read is on official ubuntu website
[13:47] <TaMpeReN> i am getting this error
[13:48] <ikonia> lmat: what's the actual problem
[13:48] <mishke_> and this are lair, very very big lair
[13:48] <lmat> ikonia: I've connected a mass storage device (usb) to my ubuntu machine, but I don't know how to use it.
[13:48] <IzzoDizzo> lmat, it is prefered to use the uuid's in fstab
[13:48] <mishke_> sorry :(
[13:48] <lmat> IzzoDizzo: sure. I'm mapping uuids to /dev/ files.
[13:48] <ikonia> lmat: ok - so you should just be able to mount it
[13:49] <lmat> ikonia: What device? How do I find its uuid? what filesysteM?
[13:49] <lmat> To get the filesystem    df [devname]
[13:49] <mishke_> now i using my netbook with ubuntu for create USB Stick with Linux distro. recommend please soft. unetbootin dont helps
[13:49] <ikonia> lmat: ok - so "sudo fdisk -l" you should be able to see the new disk added, or "sudo blkid" to map the uuid's, you can see it get added as a physical device in dmessage
[13:49] <lmat> To get the uuid, go to /dev/disk/by-uuid and find its /dev/ file.
[13:49] <llutz> lmat: sudo blkid
[13:49] <cfhowlett> mishke_: lubuntu and xubuntu are optimized for lower spec (e.g. netbooks) and older machines.  ubuntu is not.  doesn't mean it WON'T run ...
[13:49] <lmat> thanks, I'll work on this for a while :)
[13:50] <llutz> lmat: you won't get any filesysteminfo from df on devices not mountet
[13:50] <llutz> lmat: even on mounted fs you won't
[13:50] <cfhowlett> mishke_: use the startupdiskcreator that's installed with ubuntu ?
[13:50] <lmat> llutz: I can't verify that... I  `df sda` and sda isn't mounted, and it shows "none" as filesystem...
[13:50] <ikonia> lmat: please type "sudo fdisk -l" and put the output in a pastebin
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> mishke_  ubuntu has its own bootable usb creator ans there's also multisystem http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[13:50] <ikonia> lmat: we can solve this in 10 seconds
[13:52] <freedomrun> nautilus is really slowly becoming nothing..
[13:52] <llutz> lmat: "df --version"
[13:53] <lmat> http://pastie.org/private/8iqalshc3lmihjyil3vadq
[13:54] <lmat> there's cat fstab   and others... the last command is that which you asked for ikonia
[13:54] <mishke_> MonkeyDust, i wont burn ubuntu
[13:54] <ikonia> lmat: how big is your usb disk ?
[13:54] <llutz> lmat: df -T does, not df sda
[13:54] <mishke_> i need universal creator
[13:55] <lmat> ikonia: 1 gb maybe...
[13:55] <ikonia> lmat: your usb disk is 1GB?
[13:55] <ikonia> lmat: is it like pendrive type of disk ?
[13:55] <lmat> llutz: http://pastie.org/6420691
[13:55] <MindSpark> I am using awesome as a dm. That's the only thing that keeps my old netbook running
[13:56] <lmat> ikonia: It's a raid, made by drobo.
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> mishke_  those are the only usb creators I know of -- if none do the job for you, then maybe you are doing something wrong or the .iso is corrupt -- try the md5 check
[13:56] <lmat> ikonia: I think it has three 1gbs in it...which means it might be like 1.3 gigs or something.
[13:56] <ikonia> lmat: your usb disk can't be raid
[13:56] <ikonia> lmat: it's only 1 disk
[13:56] <lmat> ok
[13:56] <ikonia> lmat: is this disk a pen drive ?
[13:56] <ikonia> or a physical hard disk ?
[13:57] <lmat> ikonia: I don't know what a pen drive is, but the drobo has three (physical) hard drives in it.
[13:57] <lmat> ikonia: oh, it has moving parts.
[13:57] <ikonia> lmat: hang on
[13:57] <lmat> ikonia: It's not one of those pocket flash drives
[13:57] <ikonia> lmat: so you're not trying to connect a disk
[13:57] <ikonia> lmat: you're trying to connect a usb raid array ?
[13:57] <lmat> ikonia: yeah. But I think it's supposed to expose itself as a disk.
[13:57] <ikonia> lmat: it will do
[13:57] <ikonia> ok this makes more sense
[13:58] <lmat> ikonia: There's already a makeshift raid on the computer. There are two disks that duplicate each other (I think they're sda and sdb)
[13:58] <ikonia> lmat: 17592.2  GB of data
[13:58] <ikonia> lmat: 17592.2
[13:58] <ikonia> /dev/sdd1
[13:59] <lmat> ikonia: df /dev/sdd (and /dev/sdd1 and /dev/sdd2) reveal filesystem=none.
[13:59] <ikonia> lmat df won't work
[13:59] <foo357> Hello, I have a computer running 12.04 where a disk has partintioned as one partition for / and another for /home . I'm just wondering, can I safely shrink the / filesystem and enlarge the /home one?
[13:59] <ikonia> lmat: as you where told earlier....it's not mounted
[13:59] <ikonia> lmat: and there is no /dev/sdd2
[13:59] <llutz> lmat: btw, that shows you the info for the device /dev is mounted on, not for /dev/sda (compare size /dev/sda <-> number 1k-block)
[13:59] <lmat> ikonia: Oh, I see. It's worse than "it won't work". It's working...but working incorrectly, which is MUCH worse!!
[14:00] <ikonia> lmat: ????
[14:00] <ikonia> lmat: you just have to mount it
[14:00] <ikonia> lmat: "sudo mkdir /tmp/test && sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /tmp/test"
[14:00] <lmat> ikonia: Oh, I don't have to specify type...sheesh, my life just got a lot easier.
[14:00] <lmat> ikonia: ls /dev/sdd2   returns "/dev/sdd2"
[14:01] <mishke_> repeat please names of ubuntu for netbook
[14:01] <mishke_> lubuntu and?
[14:01] <ikonia> lmat: why are you doing ls /dev/sdd2 - I just told you there is no sdd2
[14:01] <llutz> mishke_: xubuntu
[14:01] <ikonia> lmat: I've just given you the command to use, please use it
[14:01] <lmat> ikonia: To say that there is a sd2...
[14:01] <lmat> ikonia: I did.
[14:01] <ikonia> lmat: ok, so now df -h /tmp/test
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> foo357  yes, but not while it is running -- backup first and use a live cd or usb -- enlarging partitions without dataloss is possible, but very slow, I tried it
[14:02] <lmat> size 197M  avail 197M
[14:02] <ikonia> lmat: ok, so there you go, you've mounted that disk
[14:02] <ikonia> lmat: (or that partition to be clear)
[14:02] <foo357> Ok MonkeyDust, thanks
[14:02] <lmat> ikonia: I sort of expected something to be on it (and I expected it to be greater than 200Megs)
[14:03] <ikonia> lmat: that's how big the partition is in the output you posted earlier
[14:03] <mishke_> llutz, what faster as you think?
[14:03] <ikonia> lmat: its on a big disk - but that how big that partition is
[14:03] <lmat> ikonia: okay
[14:04] <lmat> ikonia: And it appears that there are no other partitions?
[14:04] <llutz> mishke_: idk, i ran lubuntu on my old atom n270 without problem
[14:04] <ikonia> lmat: not according to your earlier output, you can try to mount /dev/sdd2 if you want
[14:04] <mishke_> llutz, thx
[14:04] <lmat> ikonia: It says "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock ... "
[14:04] <llutz> mishke_: how much RAM you have?
[14:05] <ikonia> lmat: as expected
[14:05] <lmat> ikonia: You've been very helpful, I think I need to look into how the disk works and how it's being exposed without its little software interface thing...
[14:06] <mishke_> llutz, 1gb Asus EEE PC / Atom N570 (2 cores)
[14:07] <Yellowmans> Hello please help with xubuntu. 12.04 not loading live cd wont help
[14:07] <lmat> ikonia: Thanks much!
[14:07] <MorpheusXNL> one, i solved it
[14:07] <llutz> mishke_: try lubuntu, you always could install xubuntu-desktop later and compare
[14:07] <lmat> Yellowmans: Be sure the computer is plugged in.
[14:07] <cacawachi> hi
[14:07] <MorpheusXNL> i just opened my network profile in network manager saved it again and then rebooted and it worked
[14:07] <cfhowlett> cacawachi: greetings
[14:08] <Katelyn> It's raining around the world!
[14:08] <cacawachi> greeting sir :)
[14:08] <ikonia> MorpheusXNL: well done
[14:08] <llutz> mishke_: both should be running fine with 1GB, depends all on the other applications you use
[14:08] <Katelyn> :D
[14:08]  * Katelyn so happy
[14:08] <DJones> Katelyn: And that is an Ubuntu support issue in what way?
[14:08] <cacawachi> no I advise more than 10gb
[14:08] <Katelyn> I figured out what the UNIX bug was.
[14:08] <mishke_> llutz, thx, just ubuntu very very very lags on my netbook, but now i understand why) its just for PC)
[14:09] <Katelyn> reverse-endian by character reverse-sort
[14:09] <mishke_> llutz, i hope lubuntu can fix this)
[14:09] <ikonia> Katelyn: do you have an ubuntu question/problem/topic ?
[14:09] <MorpheusXNL> ikonia, i also did something else and don't know if it had influence but commented out p2pl interface in my interfaces file because don't know what it is.
[14:09] <mishke_> llutz, 32 or 64, prefer 32?)
[14:09] <Yellowmans> Yes lmat is Plugged in
[14:09] <Katelyn> I am just pointing out a UNIX, Windows, Apple, Unix, etc bug :)
[14:09] <ikonia> MorpheusXNL: shouldn't have made a difference, but who knows
[14:09] <llutz> mishke_: stay with 32 in that setup
[14:09] <Katelyn> I am just pointing out a UNIX, Windows, Apple, Linux*, etc bug :)
[14:09] <ikonia> Katelyn: ok, this channel is for ubuntu support discussion only, it would be great if you could keep within that area
[14:09] <cacawachi> is there someone here know some about php ?
[14:09] <MorpheusXNL> how could i check what device that is
[14:10] <llutz> weekend-trolls come in early this week
[14:10] <ikonia> cacawachi: the ##php channel does
[14:10] <cacawachi> thank you ikonia
[14:10] <Katelyn> Also, certs all expire past 8000AD+ and everything except system files delete upon restore
[14:10] <ikonia> Katelyn: stop
[14:10] <MorpheusXNL> well thank you all for your assistance.
[14:10] <ikonia> Katelyn: please re-read what I said before speaking again
[14:10] <Katelyn> ???
[14:11] <lmat> Yellowmans: If you want help, you have to ask a question.
[14:11] <mishke_> llutz, are flash-games can good work on my netbook-configuration?)
[14:11] <Katelyn> ikonia, you have zero-day phobia don't you? Especially when it applies to all platforms?
[14:11] <Yellowmans> Xubuntu 12.04 loads into initramfs ..anyone?
[14:12] <cacawachi> I need invitation for #php :/
[14:12] <ikonia> !register | cacawachi
[14:12] <ikonia> cacawachi: the guys in #freenode can help you if you are stuck with how to join ##php
[14:12] <cacawachi> thanks brothers and sisters
[14:13] <cacawachi> I'm new to this irc :)
[14:13] <ikonia> cacawachi: that's fine, #freenode is the IRC help channel and they will walk you through anything you need
[14:14] <Katelyn> Another glitch is Feb 29 2000 wasn't supposed to occur due to being divisible by 400 years
[14:15] <Yellowmans> What is initramfs?
[14:15] <ikonia> Yellowmans: basically a small file system loaded into ram at boot
[14:15] <compuser> if i can a farm of 10 servers through a hosting provider, how can i determine which one uses the bandwidth most?
[14:15] <mishke_> llutz, are flash-games can good work on my netbook-configuration?)
[14:15] <ikonia> compuser: monitor their interfaces, or ask for a monitor to be put on the switch
[14:16] <compuser> or which has deviant network utilization?
[14:16] <Guest37032> the filesystem that sets things up for the main distro to load
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> compuser  there's also #ubuntu-server
[14:16] <compuser> ikonia, monitor on switch, can you elaborate a bit on it?
[14:17] <ikonia> compuser: traffic monitor on the switch they plug into, or monitor their individual ethernet cards
[14:18] <Guest37032> my ethernet port is broken
[14:18] <compuser> thanks ikonia
[14:18] <Yellowmans> Can i enter xubuntu from initramfs? Thanks ikonia
[14:18] <ikonia> Yellowmans: no
[14:20] <alfirus> hello everyone. is anyone success to disable nvidia graphic card so our battery can stand much more longger in Ubuntu 12? i did follow http://geek.co.il/wp/2012/02/19/nvidia-optimus-on-ubuntu-12-04 but stuck at dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -nc
[14:20] <verzx> How do I install a list of packages, to be more specific : http://zitstif.no-ip.org/bt5/toolslist.txt
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> !clone
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> ^ shows how to use a package list
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> verzx: or maybe:   sudo apt-get install `cat toolslist.txt`
[14:21] <Guest37032> it is also possible to create a local repo
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> verzx: bit easier
[14:21] <llutz> mishke_: idk, idon't play games or use flash
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> Guest37032  i guess you mean a ppa
[14:22] <marcs1989> Hello. New Linux user. I'm trying to learn Unix, and I noticed in one of my directories ls will display all of my files in that directory, and a duplicate of that file with ~ after it. I'm not sure why?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Guest37032: sure, you can use apt-mirror
[14:23] <Guest37032> all i do is, store all the debs in a folder, create an index file, tell apt to use it, and voila
[14:23] <Guest37032> similar to apt-cdrom
[14:23] <verzx> ActionParsnip: That doesn't seem to work.
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> verzx: what is the output of the 2nd command I gave?
[14:24] <verzx> E: Unable to locate package toolslist.txt
[14:24] <llutz> marcs1989: files with ~ are mostly backups of edited text-files
[14:24] <dr_willis> marcs1989:  some text editors auto make backup files with a ~ at the end of the name
[14:24] <dr_willis> not sure if vi does that by default or not.
[14:24] <verzx> ActionParsnip: I've changed directory too.
[14:24] <marcs1989> llutz dr_willis Ah, okay. Thanks guys. I'm using gedit, vi seems a bit complicated, if really powerful.
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> verzx: run:    cd $HOME; wget http://zitstif.no-ip.org/bt5/toolslist.txt; sudo apt-get install `cat toolslist.txt`
[14:25] <dr_willis> marcs1989:  check out the vimtutor program - it teaches you the basics
[14:25] <dr_willis> and yes. it is worth learning vi . ;)
[14:25] <dr_willis> !find vimtutor
[14:26] <dr_willis> just run 'vimtutor' from a shell
[14:26] <marcs1989> dr_willis Thanks, I'll check that out!
[14:26] <Guest37032> look up odzangba kafui how to build local apt repository
[14:26] <Guest37032> i am not him of course
[14:26] <marcs1989> Speaking of shells, does anyone know how to make the background image of a shell stay in a fixed position as I move the window?
[14:26] <nearst> hi ppl
[14:27] <marcs1989> Will vimtutor teach me vim or vi?
[14:27] <dr_willis> marcs1989:  you seeing the wallpaper of the desktop? thats  more of a terminal app setting. not a shell
[14:27] <dr_willis> vim is vi with some extras. so it dosent really matter
[14:28] <marcs1989> dr_willis No, but I'd be fine if it was the wallpaper. A solid color gets a bit hard to stare at after a while.
[14:28] <dekroning> where can I override the dns server given by my default DHCP server ?
[14:28] <dr_willis> marcs1989:  i would consider a wallpaper hard to stare at.. i perfer a nice solid black background for my termiansl
[14:29] <marcs1989> dr_willis And I don't really much like the way images move normally, and other images always seem to large.
[14:29] <carpediembaby> hi. what's the best way of searching for a string in each line of a file and copying the matching lines to another file? given that the input file is huge (~500 million lines)
[14:29] <marcs1989> dr_willis I suppose we all have our preference!
[14:29] <verzx> ActionParsnip: Nope, that didn't  seem to work.
[14:29] <verzx> ActionParsnip: It says now: E: Command line option --list is not understood
[14:29] <carpediembaby> is grep 'search_string' inputfile > output_file efficient enough?
[14:30] <llutz> carpediembaby: easiest "grep pattern file >newfile", but best...?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> verzx: is the file a list of just package names?
[14:30] <dr_willis> marcs1989:  im not sure how you mean images moveing.. You can set a background image for gnome-terminal and it dosent move
[14:30] <verzx> ActionParsnip: Have a look at the link that I gave you.
[14:30] <carpediembaby> llutz: i was wondering if its efficient or not. and if someone knew an efficient solution
[14:30] <carpediembaby> in case grep isn't
[14:30] <verzx> ActionParsnip: wget  http://zitstif.no-ip.org/bt5/toolslist.txt; sudo apt-get  install `cat toolslist.txt`
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> verzx: the file isn't a package list
[14:31] <marcs1989> dr_willis Yes, but then the image is too small or too big and it will always show the top right corner of the image. Otherwise, the image will scroll, and it will do so oddly when I'm reading pydocs
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> verzx: its a whole bunch of extra stuff too
[14:31] <alfirus> hello everyone. is anyone success to disable nvidia graphic card so our battery can stand much more longger in Ubuntu 12? i did follow http://geek.co.il/wp/2012/02/19/nvidia-optimus-on-ubuntu-12-04 but stuck at dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -nc
[14:32] <verzx> ActionParsnip: I want to install everything that is there, I have installed from this before but can't remember how I did it.
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> verzx: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[14:33] <verzx> ActionParsnip: quantal (I'm on ubuntu 12.10)
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> verzx: wget -O correct https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/toolslist.txt; sudo apt-get install `cat correct`