[12:12] <d03boy> ya i just have to go downstairs to try it
[12:12] <FFForever> !info .deb | ffforever
[12:12] <ubotu> Package .deb does not exist in any distro I know
[12:12] <BluesKaj> !language
[12:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:12] <FFForever> ohhh sorry
[12:12] <FFForever> i will :)
[12:13] <gnomefreak> Jucato: you around?\
[12:13] <Xal2> I feel offended by FFForever's use of inappropriate langauge.
[12:13] <Xal2> :(
[12:13] <intelikey> na Jucato's a square.
[12:13] <FFForever> how come there are no ops?
[12:13] <intelikey> :)
[12:13] <BluesKaj> hehe ok , no that I'm such goody 2 shoes myself but...
[12:13] <d03boy> whats the command to install a deb
[12:13] <gnomefreak> FFForever: why?
[12:13] <gnomefreak> d03boy: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[12:13] <d03boy> k
[12:13] <FFForever> j/w
[12:13] <Xal2> There are ops here.
[12:13] <gnomefreak> !deb
[12:13] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[12:14] <Xal2> They just aren't oped atm. That's my guess at least.
[12:14] <gnomefreak> Xal2: right
[12:14] <FFForever> how do i install .debs from konsol?
[12:14] <gnomefreak> FFForever: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[12:14] <Xal2> That way you don't have people PMing the ops about all their personal problems :p
[12:14] <gnomefreak> Xal2: it doesnt stop it
[12:14] <LjL> heh
[12:15] <FFForever> are there ppl with power to kick here?
[12:15] <Xal2> of course
[12:15] <gnomefreak> FFForever: your working on it
[12:15] <FFForever> :(
[12:15] <gnomefreak> FFForever: join #kubuntu-offtopic if you are not here about support related topics
[12:18] <phillijw> hi its d03boy
[12:18] <phillijw> can you give me that link
[12:18] <gnomefreak> !deb
[12:18] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[12:18] <gnomefreak> that one phillijw
[12:18] <gnomefreak> not really a link though
[12:18] <intelikey> !repos
[12:18] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:19] <inkwell> messed up apt database.
[12:20] <intelikey> inkwell i think you messed up /etc/apt/sources.list  not the database.
[12:20] <nathan> how di unlock the pacage database
[12:21] <confusco> d03boy
[12:21] <confusco> just double click it
[12:21] <confusco> and wireless should start working
[12:21] <gnomefreak> nathan: its giving you an error where it says dpkg is locked is another process using it?
[12:22] <UnDeR|CoVeR> wasp_ems:  =)
[12:22] <nathan> yes
[12:22] <wasp_ems> lol
[12:22] <inkwell> yeah that
[12:22] <Xal2> what are canonical and commercial repos?
[12:22] <UnDeR|CoVeR> auto exw kai sto irc tou mad
[12:22] <wasp_ems> UnDeR|CoVeR, brother
[12:22] <wasp_ems> exeis dei thn tainia?
[12:22] <Xal2> nm, i'm lazy
[12:22] <UnDeR|CoVeR> den nomizw
[12:22] <nathan> i don't remember the command to unlock it
[12:22] <Xal2> don't answer my question :p
[12:22] <UnDeR|CoVeR> anyway edw den exei kai pollh voh8eia
[12:23] <wasp_ems> gia pes thn erwthsh
[12:23] <intelikey> Xal2 canonical is ubuntu HQ  and commerical are "non-free"
[12:23] <gnomefreak> Xal2: i dont remember what package are you looking for?
[12:23] <UnDeR|CoVeR> eipa pws na kanw install thn karta kai paparia
[12:23] <phillijw_> dumb irc
[12:23] <gnomefreak> UnDeR|CoVeR: english please
[12:23] <wasp_ems> mpes sto ubuntu
[12:23] <gnomefreak> wasp_ems: you too
[12:23] <wasp_ems> sorry
[12:23] <Xal2> I'm not looking for a package. I was just curious.
[12:23] <UnDeR|CoVeR> soz
[12:23] <nathan> dpkg something something
[12:23] <phillijw_> can someone get me that link that confusco gave me
[12:23] <Bubba_Gump> alderbaran?
[12:23] <wasp_ems> UnDeR|CoVeR, join #ubuntu
[12:23] <intelikey> Xal2 i only answered cause you said not to.
[12:23] <intelikey> :)
[12:23] <gnomefreak> Xal2: you can check on ubuntu.com but i dont remember since there is only dapper repos
[12:23] <Xal2> haha
[12:23] <inkwell> where can i get a new list?
[12:23] <UnDeR|CoVeR> wasp_ems:  i have kubuntu
[12:23] <FFForever> do i have to have sendmail installed?
[12:24] <UnDeR|CoVeR> so i think its best here
[12:24] <wasp_ems> UnDeR|CoVeR, just join it
[12:24] <confusco> http://apt.ubuntu.org.tw/ubtw/bcm43xx-firmware/bcm43xx-firmware_1.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[12:24] <UnDeR|CoVeR> fu
[12:24] <confusco> just double click it
[12:24] <phillijw_> thnaks
[12:24] <confusco> and card should work
[12:24] <Xal2> Is there a free alternative to Cedega for playing Windows games? I haven't had much success with wine.
[12:24] <wasp_ems> finish
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Xal2: wine is about it.
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> Xal2: for i in edgy,-updates,-security}; do echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $i main restricted multiverse universe"; done
[12:25] <inkwell> that was what?
[12:25] <inkwell> cool
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> Xal2: That will give you all you need to have in /etc/apt/sources.list everything else is just worthless comments
[12:25] <inkwell> source list... how do i fix it now?
[12:26] <intelikey> as root copy it to /etc/apt/
[12:26] <luca> inkwell: in the console type "sudo kate /etc/apt/source.list"
[12:26] <h3sp4wn> for i in edgy{,-updates,-security} (missed out the {
[12:27] <intelikey> luca i just dcc sent him a working copy.   if you'd like him to use it.
[12:27] <intelikey> luca we tried that last night but it seems inkwell is very newbish in linux.
[12:28] <luca> intelikey ok I will just watch then for now :)
[12:29] <wasp_ems> hello can anyone help with installing nvidia drivers?for use with beryl
[12:29] <KoluCCi> Does anybody know where could I set in Kubuntu Xinerama option, when the system starts X server?
[12:30] <KoluCCi> [servers]
[12:30] <KoluCCi> 0=/usr/bin/X11/X vt7 -deferglyphs 16 +xinerama
[12:30] <KoluCCi> Like this, for example
[12:31] <KoluCCi> When using gdm it's places at: /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[12:31] <KoluCCi> What about Kubuntu's kdm?
[12:31] <intelikey> KoluCCi most likely /etc/init.d/kdm script.
[12:31] <gnomefreak> wasp_ems: ask in #ubuntu-xgl there is a guide there. and i believe it gives you how to install nvidia 9xxx
[12:31] <KoluCCi> intelikey: 10x. I'll try to find out there
[12:31] <wasp_ems> thanx
[12:31] <intelikey> KoluCCi ah there is a kdm.conf too
[12:31] <gnomefreak> KoluCCi: ~/.kde/something/something
[12:32] <Jucato> gnomefreak: don't believe intelikey.  Which file has an instruction to run X from /usr/bin/X11/X ?
[12:36] <dennister> i have my 7800GT pcie card attached to a digital flat panel lcd monitor via DVI
[12:36] <KoluCCi> intelikey: not from ~ instead. Cause it will be read after X has been started
[12:36] <intelikey> KoluCCi maybe the init script.
[12:36] <KoluCCi> Where is directive to start X when system booting?
[12:36] <dennister> i've got the most basic stuff done, but the advanced options are needed here
[12:37] <intelikey> KoluCCi the init script
[12:37] <KoluCCi> intelikey: which one?
[12:37] <intelikey> kdm
[12:37] <intelikey> kdm is what starts X
[12:37] <dennister> i'm afraid the #nvidia channel is pretty dead, and the #nvnews is mostly windowns ppl at present
[12:37] <intelikey>  /etc/init.d/kdm  <--- that one.
[12:37] <FFForever> how do i install flash for firefox?
[12:38] <intelikey> !flash9
[12:38] <ubotu> You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[12:38] <FFForever> that has never worked for me :-\
[12:38] <gnomefreak> http://www.youmortals.com/ubuntu/packages/
[12:38] <gnomefreak> FFForever: go there than
[12:38] <intelikey> that has never been tried by me.    i don't do flash.
[12:38] <dennister> any experience/knowledge with these issues, gnomefreak?
[12:39] <FFForever> i have to have flash for my job
[12:39] <KoluCCi> intelikey: there are nothing which could help me :(
[12:39] <Jucato> Seveas' flash 9 works perfectly here...
[12:39] <gnomefreak> dennister: not advanced but also depends on what advanced options you mean
[12:39] <gnomefreak> Jucato: it does :)
[12:39] <intelikey> KoluCCi that's too bad.
[12:39] <Jucato> gnomefreak: I do hope he updates it to beta2 though...
[12:39] <FFForever> flashplugin-nonfree?
[12:39] <KoluCCi> intelikey: I know. :(
[12:40] <gnomefreak> Jucato: he will ( i might if i get time)
[12:40] <FFForever> why do i keep seeing packages called *-nonfree
[12:40] <gnomefreak> FFForever: yes
[12:40] <dennister> gnomefreak: i've got to get the gl working properly, advanced timings, xvmc...
[12:40] <KoluCCi> intelikey: that's why I don't like prepacked distros...
[12:40] <gnomefreak> FFForever: they are not open source
[12:40] <gnomefreak> dennister: thats over my head in nvidia
[12:40] <Jucato> FFForever: because they are non-free, in the free/open source sense of the term
[12:40] <intelikey> then use the gentoo distro
[12:40] <FFForever> are they still FREE?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> FFForever: define free
[12:41] <gnomefreak> FFForever: free of charge yes
[12:41] <Jucato> FFForever: they are free, as in no payment needed
[12:41] <KoluCCi> intelikey: I've used gentoo. But there are troubles with software installation procedure...
[12:41] <Jucato> FFForever: but not free/open source software
[12:41] <dennister> ok...thought i'd try...whats xgl/compiz i've heard so much about? is it just for decoration and 'hey, this is neat'?
[12:41] <Xal2> is it possible to use VNC with KDM?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> dennister: join #ubuntu-xgl ;)
[12:41] <gnomefreak> dennister: yes for most part
[12:42] <gnomefreak> Jucato: he pulled the package?
[12:42] <dennister> k, ty gnomefreak, i'll try a few other places :)
[12:42] <Jucato> gnomefreak: who pulled what?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> Jucato: tonio pulled the new package (cant think of name off hand)
[12:43] <icheyne> how do I change the default mp3 player - if I use the right click/open with option, it always stays with slow bloated Amarok.
[12:43] <Jucato> gnomefreak: kpkgmanager? I'm not sure
[12:43] <gnomefreak> yeah
[12:43] <gnomefreak> let me check maybe he just didnt add it to the site
[12:43] <intelikey> icheyne prefered apps ?
[12:43] <icheyne> thx
[12:44] <icheyne>  I'll check now
[12:44] <KoluCCi> intelikey: /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[12:44] <gnomefreak> he did :(
[12:44] <KoluCCi> there are someone, like I'm searching for
[12:44] <Jucato> gnomefreak: it's in his repos now?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> Jucato: no
[12:44] <KoluCCi> I'll try to reboot system now :)
[12:44] <gnomefreak> Jucato: apt-cache policy doesnt find it
[12:44] <Jucato> ah
[12:44] <icheyne> intelikey, no it does not have anything for mp3s
[12:45] <icheyne> :(
[12:45] <icheyne> Jucato, ?? :) any way to change the default mp3 player?
[12:45] <Jucato> gnomefreak: no way to browse his repo through a browser (which I usually do with other repos)
[12:46] <gnomefreak> Jucato: havent tried yet but apt-cache should have found it
[12:46] <Jucato> icheyne: Konueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations
[12:46] <icheyne> Jucato, ok thanks I'll give that a go
[12:48] <icheyne> Jucato, no that only works if I use Konqueror and I either use the desktop or Krusader. :(
[12:48] <icheyne> damn!
[12:48] <Jucato> icheyne: no, it affects the whole system
[12:48] <Xal2> How do you setup vncserver?
[12:49] <icheyne> I just tried it and it started amarok
[12:49] <intelikey> did you save your changes ?
[12:50] <intelikey> kde requires save + exit  not like 'nome
[12:50] <Jucato> icheyne: I'm presuming you put amarok in a lower position and clicked on Apply then OK?
[12:50] <intelikey> save/apply
[12:50] <Jucato> works here just fine. (change mp3's to play in Kaffeine...
[12:51] <Jucato> and make sure you choose in the General tab, not the Embedding tab
[12:51] <icheyne> Jucato, xmms is at the top, but it starts with Amarok
[12:51] <Jucato> hm...
[12:51] <icheyne> Jucato, yes the general tab
[12:51] <Jucato> maybe it has a problem with non-KDE apps?
[12:51] <icheyne> x-mp3?
[12:52] <Jucato> yes, x-mp3
[12:52] <Jucato> icheyne: but it works if you try to play an mp3 from Konqueror?
[12:52] <icheyne> Jucato, no it's amarok from konqueror too
[12:53] <icheyne> I'll send you a screenshot if you like
[12:53] <intelikey> w3m mp3 vim     it's all so confusing !
[12:53] <snowice> I added a child panel, but how do I configure it? right-clicking it configures the default only...
[12:53] <Xal2> How do I start kdm in VNC?
[12:54] <Jucato> icheyne: something's wrong then.
[12:54] <icheyne> pfft
[12:54] <Jucato> snowice: press Alt+F2, then enter "dcop kicker kicker restart". then try configuring again
[12:54] <icheyne> Jucato, is there a way to do it from the command line?
[12:54] <intelikey> Xal2 kdm or just Xorg ?    startx  for an xsession.
[12:54] <snowice> Jucato, ok, I'll give that a go
[12:54] <Xal2> doesn't work. I'm using tightvncserver
[12:55] <Jucato> icheyne: not that I'm aware of. let me check
[12:55] <Xal2> All I get is a console window.
[12:55] <icheyne> Jucato, thanks mate - appreciate it. So annoying!
[12:55] <intelikey> !vnc
[12:55] <Jucato> icheyne: I'm also going to try and check if I can reproduce your problem (installing xmms)
[12:55] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[12:56] <icheyne> I'm starting to *hate* Amarok
[12:56] <icheyne> Jucato, thanks!
[12:56] <Xal2> Thanks, I'll check that out.
[12:56] <intelikey> Xal2 been there ^  ?
[12:56] <intelikey> k
[12:56] <Xal2> nope
[12:56] <icheyne> Jucato, I just tried to change it to Juk and it failed at that too
[12:56] <snowice> Jucato, gives me an error "Error: couldn't connect to dcop server"
[12:56] <intelikey> !freenx | Xal2
[12:56] <ubotu> Xal2: freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[12:57] <intelikey> if your connection is not hyper speed ^
[12:57] <Jucato> snowice: ok, then Alt+F2, "killall kicker" then Alt+F2, "kicker". basically you just need to restart kicker/panel
[12:58] <Jucato> icheyne: no reason to hate it because of what's happening. I can assure you. it's not normal
[12:58] <icheyne> Jucato, I'm only kidding. ;)
[12:58] <icheyne> Jucato, don't care that much!
[12:58] <intelikey> Jucato kde is not normal ???
[12:59] <intelikey> :)
[12:59] <Jucato> icheyne: it just worked here
[12:59] <icheyne> Jucato, Kubuntu has been very good to me on the whole - I'm not complaining. I suppose I could always ask for my money back...
[12:59] <Jucato> playing MP3's with xmms
[12:59] <icheyne> Jucato, :(
[12:59] <intelikey> version differance you two ?
[12:59] <icheyne> Edgy
[12:59] <icheyne> hmm
[01:00] <Jucato> translation "I don't know what else to do"
[01:00] <icheyne> I upgraded this evening and I haven't restarted
[01:00] <Jucato> Kubuntu 6.10, KDE 3.5.5
[01:00] <snowice> Jucato, thanks it works great now
[01:00] <Jucato> er..
[01:00] <icheyne> maybe all those kde updates have fritzed it
[01:00] <icheyne> ?
[01:00] <Jucato> icheyne: you should log out and log in again when you upgrade to a new KDE version
[01:00] <Jucato> ok time to remove xmmssssss
[01:00] <icheyne> Jucato, ah! I'll try that. Just log out and in again - no restart?
[01:01] <intelikey> icheyne only need to reboot for kernel updates.
[01:01] <Jucato> icheyne: yeah. you only reboot when you install a new kernel and want to use that new kernel.
[01:01] <Jucato> you restart X when you change something in xorg.conf
[01:01] <icheyne> you learn something new every day...
[01:01] <intelikey> this is not M$ reboot OS
[01:01] <Jucato> intelikey: don't you need to restart when you change hostnames?
[01:01] <icheyne> ok thanks again. Back in a mo...
[01:02] <Jucato> s/restart/reboot
[01:02] <intelikey> Jucato no just issue a command.
[01:02] <intelikey> but i forget the command....
[01:02] <Jucato> intelikey: ah ok. coz last time I changed my hostname, I couldn't connect to the net until I rebooted
[01:03] <intelikey> yeah there is a command that will fix that.  i had to use it once but i don't recall what....   i asked ##linux and someone,  Quiznos maybe,  just blurted out a command, and i ran it and all was well again.
[01:04] <intelikey> networking is not my forty
[01:04] <intelikey> networking is not my forte' either.
[01:04] <Jucato> lol
[01:04] <Jucato> ditto
[01:05] <icheyne> Jucato, it's no good - still the fat blue wolf... :(
[01:05] <Jucato> ...
[01:05] <icheyne> thanks anyway mate
[01:05] <icheyne> really appreciate the effort
[01:05] <Jucato> that is just plain weird...
[01:05] <icheyne> isn't there a kde channel?
[01:05] <icheyne> I might try there
[01:05] <intelikey> fat blue wolf ?    is that a common referance to amarok ?
[01:06] <Jucato> nope
[01:06] <Jucato> it's just a icheyne reference
[01:06] <intelikey> ok.
[01:06] <intelikey> i kinda liked it....
[01:06] <icheyne> it's about right - the overfed mongrel!
[01:07] <Jucato> maybe I should mod Nuvola to use that logo instead of the stupid speaker icon it uses for Amarok..
[01:07] <icheyne> ok off to the kde channel - thanks again guys
[01:07] <intelikey> i saw amarok one or two times  made up a first impression mind set and haven't seen it sense.
[01:08] <Jucato> since, even
[01:08] <intelikey> made no sence to me either :)
[01:08] <Jucato> first impressions last.. but shouldn't
[01:08] <BluesKaj> amarok is good but a bit overdone with options
[01:08] <abdul> hi
[01:09] <rag> hi all, i have a laptop in front of than dvd not load
[01:09] <intelikey> hey i figure if you dislike something on first glance why stick around until you really hate it.....
[01:09] <abdul> can anyone help me installing an ati driver?
[01:09] <Jucato> it's trying to be a complete music player, so no wonder.
[01:09] <Jucato> intelikey: because sometimes you need to give things a second look. you might have missed something
[01:09] <abdul> i tried every howto i could find but it still doesn't work
[01:09] <BluesKaj> which ati card abdul?
[01:09] <abdul> radeon 9600 pro advance
[01:09] <BluesKaj> oooh.. nice
[01:10] <intelikey> !ati
[01:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:10] <intelikey> that howto ^ ?
[01:10] <rag> abdul: or use fglrx
[01:10] <icheyne> abdul, have you tried the ATI wiki?
[01:10] <BluesKaj> frglx driver should work , abdul
[01:10] <rag> how to dvd, not load for me
[01:10] <rag> why?
[01:11] <BluesKaj> err fglrx :)
[01:11] <abdul> fglrx is loaded, but fglrxinfo gives something with mesa3d
[01:11] <intelikey> Jucato yeah i know.  just rambeling.     but i play all my audio with sox  and all my vidio in vlc  so i don't need anything else......
[01:12] <Jucato> yeah... I know. I just stick to the defaults if they don't give me any trouble.
[01:12] <Jucato> so far I've had no problem with Amarok or Kaffeine
[01:12] <intelikey> sox is the console default.....
[01:13] <icheyne> problem is that I like my apps to start immediately... Amarok takes about 5 secs to load and I use none of the fancy features
[01:13] <icheyne> the UI is overblown as well
[01:13] <abdul> ok i'll try out this binary driver howto
[01:13] <abdul> thank you
[01:14] <intelikey> time to scat.
[01:17] <inkwell> I got it!!!
[01:17] <Jucato> O.o
[01:18] <vyoman> does anyone know where to look for a change log, for adept auto updates? or in other words how do I know why i am updating libgnomevfs2-0_2.16.1-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[01:18] <vyoman> there is summary or explanation in the adept updates
[01:18] <Jucato> vyoman: currently, there's no way to do that with Adept yet
[01:19] <inkwell> where do i get the software to run world of warcraft?
[01:19] <vyoman> ok - is there a web page listing the changes - I can't just go ahead and updates production machines on good will alone :)
[01:19] <bimberi> !wow | inkwell
[01:19] <ubotu> inkwell: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[01:21] <Jucato> !changelogs | vyoman
[01:21] <ubotu> vyoman: changelogs for Ubuntu packages can be found on http://changelogs.ubuntu.com
[01:21] <icheyne> inkwell, http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name?app_id=1185
[01:22] <inkwell> yo
[01:23] <nathan> How do I start easy ubuntu... When I click on it the icon jumps up and down for a while then disappears
[01:23] <nathan> is there a chat room for it?
[01:24] <apokryphos> nathan: #easyubuntu
[01:24] <vyoman> thanks for your help guys! i am thinking of using synaptic for updates it does show the changes...
[01:24] <nathan> thanks. I could have looked eh.
[01:25] <inkwell> what is that?
[01:25] <Jucato> !easyubuntu
[01:25] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[01:27] <inkwell> what's the diffence from wine to that codeweaver?
[01:28] <Skrot-> inkwell: Wine is developed by the community, codeweaver is developed by a firm i think, and is not free
[01:28] <Skrot-> or, codeweaver is the firm, think the product is called crossover
[01:29] <inkwell> i like free better, but is there any diffence?
[01:29] <eilker> !vmware
[01:29] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[01:29] <Skrot-> inkwell: i think codeweaver crossover focuse their energy on a small subset of applications such as Microsoft Office
[01:29] <Skrot-> While Wine is all over the place
[01:30] <Jucato> same as cedega, while using Wine code, optimizes/focuses on running games
[01:30] <FFForever> how long will it take to download kubuntu on dialup?
[01:30] <Jucato> O.o
[01:30] <Jucato> a loooong time
[01:30] <Skrot-> Something like that
[01:30] <FFForever> how long is long?
[01:30] <icheyne> inkwell, I believe codeweavers contribute to wine, but cedega do not - but I'm not sure
[01:30] <Jucato> have you ever tried downloading a whole CD on dial up? that long
[01:31] <icheyne> FFForever, you would be better off ordering it from a cd seller
[01:31] <LjL> Jucato: yes
[01:31] <Jucato> Kubuntu ISO is 690+ MB
[01:31] <apokryphos> FFForever: the CD is around 7mb/sec. If you download at, let's say max 5kb/sec, then :)
[01:31] <apokryphos> *CD is around 700meg
[01:32] <inkwell> wget http://thepiratecove.org/files/wine-0.9.21_wow_i386.deb.......where do i paste that?
[01:32] <icheyne> FFForever, you seem to be in the states - there are loads of cd stores there
[01:32] <icheyne> bye all
[01:32] <campbch> what does it mean when you can't access the hard drive and konqueror says it "stalled," but the OS and all programs opened normally?
[01:33] <FFForever> i know, but my friend is on dialup and hes in san fran and im not gunna do a 2day drive
[01:34] <bobbyd> inkwell: buy cedega
[01:34] <bobbyd> inkwell: it's cheap, less hassle and they keep up with the patches
[01:34] <apokryphos> FFForever: amazon is good
[01:34] <bobbyd> inkwell: but you would paste that in a konsole window
[01:35] <FFForever> whats a gtood bt client for linux like utorrent?
[01:35] <FFForever> good*
[01:35] <apokryphos> ktorrent
[01:35] <Jucato> ktorrent
[01:35] <BluesKaj> azureus
[01:35] <FFForever> is there a way i can disable sharing?
[01:36] <BluesKaj> ktorrent is unstable in edgy
[01:36] <apokryphos> yes
[01:36] <FFForever> ktorrent isnt stable?, how do?
[01:36] <FFForever> how so*
[01:36] <apokryphos> it was fine for me when I used it
[01:36] <Jucato> ktorrent is very stable, since Dapper
[01:37] <xwolf-> !wine
[01:37] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:46] <nathan> is there a way to make an image of a fresh install so that I can revert to it instead of reinstalling from the cd everytime?
[01:47] <Schalken> does anyone know where i can download and install the beta of flash player 9?
[01:47] <Jucato> !flash 9 | Schalken
[01:47] <ubotu> Schalken: You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[01:47] <Jucato> easiest way probably, but it's only beta 1 (beta 2 was already released)
[01:48] <Schalken> so there isnt a deb for beta2?
[01:49] <Jucato> from Seveas? none yet. maybe some other 3rd party repo. but since Seveas is an Ubuntu dev, I'd trust his repo more...
[01:50] <Schalken> okay, if there are too many problems with beta1 i'll get beta2 from adobe
[01:51] <Schalken> Jucato: cheers!
[01:53] <Schalken> i have mutliple lines in my apt sources for edgy, edgy-updates and edgy-backports repectively. can all these be put on the one apt line (so one line has multiple 'distributions')?
[01:54] <Jucato> Schalken: you can have something like "deb http:...... edgy main restricted universe multiverse"
[01:54] <Jucato> edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[01:54] <Jucato> just don't put edgy, edgy-updates and edgy-backports themselves on one line
[01:55] <Schalken> Jucato: but not "... edgy edgy-updates edgy-backports main restricted universe mutliverse"?
[01:55] <Jucato> yes. do *not* do that
[01:57] <Schalken> okay
[01:59] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: How goes?
[02:00] <inkwell> where do you change the desktop theme? i downloaded one.
[02:00] <Jucato> !changetheme
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changetheme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <Jucato> rawr
[02:00] <Jucato> !changethemes | inkwell
[02:00] <ubotu> inkwell: Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[02:01] <DaSkreech> inkwell: Glad to see you!
[02:01] <inkwell> good to be here
[02:01] <inkwell> got my problem fixed thanks to all your help
[02:01] <inkwell> and varios other people i annoyed
[02:02] <DaSkreech> Which problem was that?
[02:02] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: I'm going to assume that you are ok since you are not responding :)
[02:02] <inkwell> ha, the adept one
[02:03] <DaSkreech> Ah right :)
[02:03] <DaSkreech> inkwell: have you got your repositories setup already?
[02:03] <inkwell> yep, got my video driver workin too
[02:03] <inkwell> :)
[02:05] <crazy_bus> Does anyone know if I will be able to fix this problem ;http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=11368.0 or whether it would be better to just reinstall kubuntu
[02:09] <inkwell> i installed kdmtheme but can't find it
[02:10] <Jucato> inkwell: kdmtheme is for KDM Themes, not KDE themes.
[02:11] <inkwell> o
[02:11] <inkwell> where do you change the desktop theme? i downloaded one.
[02:11] <Jucato> inkwell: and to access kdmtheme, press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol" and go to Administration
[02:11] <Jucato> inkwell: I gave you a link already
[02:11] <Jucato> !changethemes | inkwell
[02:11] <ubotu> inkwell: Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[02:12] <grumpy_penguin> Anyone else having trouble with OO freezing Kubuntu ?
[02:12] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: You can just reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[02:13] <DaSkreech> if you don't want to fix the problem
[02:14] <benner> hi!, i just downloaded ati drivers... its a .run file, i have kubuntu 6.10 how to start the installation?
[02:14] <Jucato> !ati | benner
[02:14] <ubotu> benner: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:14] <DaSkreech> !ati | benner
[02:14] <crazy_bus> Do you just click on reinstall.  Or completly remove it.  And then install it
[02:14] <DaSkreech> What the heck?
[02:14] <Jucato> DaSkreech: bleh
[02:14] <DaSkreech> I haven't been able to infomr anyone all day :-(
[02:14] <DaSkreech>  People keeps tealing the glory
[02:14] <DaSkreech> stealing
[02:15] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: I'd press alt+ctrl+F1 and login
[02:15] <Jucato> lol
[02:16] <crazy_bus> What does alt+ctrl do for you?  It doesnt do anything for me
[02:16] <DaSkreech> from there run sudo aptitude remove kdelibs4c2a && sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:16] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: alt+Ctrl=F1
[02:16] <DaSkreech> +F1
[02:16] <benner> Jucato: i did that before, its seem to have worked because the resolution and color was really better and faster window reaction but fonts are so BIG that i cant do nothing.
[02:16] <DaSkreech> !fonts
[02:16] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[02:16] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[02:16] <DaSkreech> Hmm cool
[02:17] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: Oh press Alt+Ctrl+F7 to get back here
[02:17] <DaSkreech> I keep forgetting to do that before :(
[02:17] <DaSkreech> Now he'll never get back
[02:17] <DaSkreech> assuming that crazy bus is a him
[02:17] <crazy_bus> DaSkreech, but Alt+Cntrl+F1 does anothing for me
[02:17] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: What OS are you In?
[02:18] <crazy_bus> KDE is not working for me so Im using XFCE to try and fix it
[02:18] <DaSkreech> really?
[02:18] <DaSkreech> fascinating
[02:19] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: ok before you do aanythign if Alt+Ctrl+F1 woks then you nedd Alt+Ctrl+F7 to get back here
[02:19] <DaSkreech> now
[02:19] <benner> can somebody can help me, i install the ati drivers like you told me, i rebooted its seem to have worked because the resolution and color was really better and faster window reaction but fonts are so BIG that i cant do nothing.. so i restored my xorg.conf in vesa and waiting for help :)
[02:19] <DaSkreech> Holding Alt+Ctrl+F1 at the same time does nothing?
[02:19] <DaSkreech> how big is big?
[02:20] <benner> a letter take the whole screen or almost
[02:20] <dennister> omg! here's the nvidia settings dialog i remember from windblows...
[02:20] <crazy_bus> DaSkreech, it doesnt seem to do anything for me
[02:20] <dennister> now why the heck does none of the kubuntu edgy documetnation even mention nvidia-settings?
[02:20] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: Thats slightly crazy :)
[02:21] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: do you use KDM ?
[02:21] <dennister> and here i was wading through tons of other documentation from multiple sources...lol
[02:21] <crazy_bus> I dont think so
[02:21] <dennister> anyway...i think i can finally handle this now pps...bye for now
[02:22] <DaSkreech> Did you install from a Kubuntu Cd?
[02:22] <crazy_bus> I did
[02:22] <DaSkreech> Hmm LIkely you are using kdm then
[02:22] <DaSkreech> Jucato: you hearing this?
[02:23] <xwolf-> i need to copy kmplot to a cd or whatever medium other than hd. how can i do that?
[02:23] <Jucato> I've heard it since yesterday... and I'm as clueless as he is
[02:23] <benner> can somebody can help me, i install the ati drivers like you told me, i rebooted its seem to have worked because the resolution and color was really better and faster window reaction but fonts are so BIG that i cant do nothing.. so i restored my xorg.conf in vesa and waiting for help :)
[02:24] <DaSkreech> WHy can't he Alt+ctrl+F1 ?
[02:24] <DaSkreech> benner: Which Video card?
[02:24] <DaSkreech> benner: Oh! ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:24] <benner> radeon x1600
[02:25] <benner> ok im trying into #ubuntu-xgl
[02:25] <fyrmedic> what is the command to delete a directory?
[02:25] <DaSkreech> fyrmedic: rmdir
[02:25] <fyrmedic> thanx
[02:26] <fyrmedic> is there a tag to ignore the fact that it is not empty?
[02:26] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: ok well time to do some command line stuff
[02:26] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: can you open a terminal
[02:26] <crazy_bus> yes
[02:27] <DaSkreech> Ok type irssi -c irc.freenode.net
[02:27] <crazy_bus> it says bash: irssi: command not found
[02:28] <benner> what is the command to run a .run file ?
[02:28] <DaSkreech> benner: ./name.run
[02:29] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: sudo aptitude install irssi
[02:29] <DaSkreech> then try it
[02:29] <xwolf-> fyrmedic -r i think
[02:29] <fyrmedic> xwolf; ok thanks I am having issues with it
[02:30] <Jucato> fyrmedic: don't want to delete using Konqueror?
[02:30] <xwolf-> how do i change 'user@machine:/home/whatever$' in konsole and tt1?
[02:30] <DaSkreech> fyrmedic: you can do rm -rf but that's easily the most dangerous command in linux
[02:31] <Jucato> that's why in some cases, it's safer to use Konqueror when deleting directories that are not empty
[02:31] <crazy_bus> I typed it in, should I log into this room from the terminal
[02:31] <fyrmedic> I am just already in terminal and figured it would be easier to type a few characters than go into gui and mess around but I guess I'll do that,.
[02:31] <xwolf-> what's the problem with rmdir -r dir/?
[02:31] <Jucato> xwolf-: no, the rm -rf command
[02:31] <Jucato> xwolf-: also, there's no way to recover something you've deleted in the command line
[02:32] <fyrmedic> xwolf; it just won't delete the directory and all the files and directories in it.
[02:32] <root_> Ive logged into the program from the terminal
[02:32] <root_> Im crazy_bus
[02:33] <DaSkreech> root_: Hello Ok if things go terribly wrong you can login to IRC from that and come back and ask us stuff ok?
[02:33] <xwolf-> well, $rm -r dir/ did just fine
[02:34] <nanotube> does anyone know how to change my bridged interface in vmware-player from eth0 to ra0 ?
[02:35] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: ok you can use that in case of soemthing bad
[02:35] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: you can login here for more help
[02:35] <crazy_bus> yes
[02:35] <DaSkreech> ready to try reinstall Kubuntu?
[02:36] <crazy_bus> ok
[02:36] <DaSkreech> from the terminal run sudo aptitude remove kdelibs4c2a && sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:37] <nanotube> does anyone know how to change my bridged interface in vmware-player from eth0 to ra0 ?
[02:38] <crazy_bus> Im doing that now
[02:39] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: ok :)
[02:40] <crazy_bus> So if everything goes ok with this command, willeverything work alright again?
[02:41] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: Dunno but it's a good bet that it will probably work
[02:42] <crazy_bus> And will all of my programs and settings still be installed?
[02:42] <Hobbsee> root_: please dont do that
[02:42] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: Ummm
[02:42] <Jucato> tsk tsk
[02:42] <DaSkreech> Dunno. All non KDE apps will be installed.
[02:42] <Jucato> someone desperately wants to get kicked
[02:42] <phillijw> i installed kubuntu and i installed 46xx firmware deb and i get this error
[02:42] <phillijw> main: error loading '/lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode4.fw' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:03.0' with driver 'bcm43xx'
[02:43] <phillijw> what do I do?
[02:43] <scotchi> salut benje
[02:43] <DaSkreech> I don't know about the ones that you installed that need KDE might not be there
[02:43] <coreymon77> root_: you need me?
[02:44] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: they should be an easy apt-get away though
[02:44] <root_> No, sorry I was just trying to figure out the commands of this command line irc
[02:44] <coreymon77> oh
[02:44] <coreymon77> okay
[02:44] <DaSkreech> root_: Now you know not to do that one again :)
[02:45] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: hows it going?
[02:45] <root_> Yes i do, sorry :(
[02:45] <crazy_bus> its currently up to removing kword
[02:46] <DaSkreech> Ok it's going to ask you to stop KDM at some point
[02:46] <DaSkreech>  I'm not sure whats going to happen then
[02:46] <crazy_bus> what does KDM do exactly?
[02:47] <flaccid> !kdm
[02:47] <Jucato> handles KDE sessions... that is, login screen :)
[02:47] <DaSkreech> Mostly it's job is to keep X running
[02:47] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 611 kB, installed size 1480 kB
[02:47] <DaSkreech> :-)
[02:47] <ubuntu> ?
[02:47] <phillijw> main: error loading '/lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode4.fw' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:03.0' with driver 'bcm43xx'
[02:47] <phillijw> why cant i load that module
[02:47] <crazy_bus> I logged into xfce from recovery mode
[02:47] <flaccid> display manager calls window manager
[02:48] <crazy_bus> Its removed kdelibs4c2a
[02:49] <DaSkreech> ok it should be trying to install kubuntu-desktop now
[02:49] <nanotube> does anyone know how to change my bridged interface in vmware-player from eth0 to ra0 ?
[02:49] <crazy_bus> its now installing kubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <ubuntu> is there a way to get konquerer to use firefox extensions? i have one extension i cannot live without :-(
[02:49] <crazy_bus> which will take a long time due to slow internet :(
[02:49] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Install firefox
[02:49] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: Doh I should have made you copy over the debs
[02:50] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: long time == days?
[02:50] <crazy_bus> No, around 1 hour 10 minutes to go
[02:50] <DaSkreech> Oh pfft then hang out here and chat :)
[02:50] <DaSkreech> Or have dinner :)
[02:51] <DaSkreech> assuming that it's dinner tiem where you are
[02:51] <crazy_bus> Its not.  Its more around lunch time
[02:51] <DaSkreech> Have lunch then :-)
[02:52] <Jucato> australia?
[02:52] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: did you install a bunch of applications yourself?
[02:52] <crazy_bus> Yes
[02:52] <crazy_bus> Yes to australia and yes to installing a bunch of things myself
[02:53] <DaSkreech> Were a lot of them KDE applications?
[02:53] <Jucato> :)
[02:53] <robotgeek> Kapplication
[02:53] <flaccid> to australia?
[02:53] <DaSkreech> or appliKation
[02:53] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: that works better
[02:54] <crazy_bus> I dont thing I installed many new KDE apps.
[02:54] <crazy_bus> Most of the things I installed were gnome and kde independant
[02:54] <DaSkreech> ok well that's good they will still be there
[02:55] <DaSkreech> I like having a milion small tools :)
[02:55] <darthvader> hello again
[02:55] <darthvader> can anyone help me installing a driver for an ati radeon 9600?
[02:55] <DaSkreech> darthvader: You killed my father!!!!
[02:56] <darthvader> lol
[02:57] <darthvader> please help me, it's driving me nuts!
[02:57] <darthvader> i tried everything but it still doesn't work
[02:58] <robotgeek> !ati | grep darthvader
[02:58] <ubotu> grep darthvader: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:59] <robotgeek> damn! | and grep go together
[02:59] <darthvader> i followed every step in that howto but no success
[03:01] <robotgeek> darthvader: i dont use ati, so sorry
[03:02] <darthvader> wise decision
[03:02] <robotgeek> darthvader: i actually use ati, sorry. but on mac, its old :)
[03:03] <darthvader> ok ty anyway
[03:05] <family> anyone in here use easyubuntu ?
[03:05] <csills> yes
[03:05] <csills> I use it
[03:05] <csills> was curious and wanted to check it out
[03:06] <d03boy> main: error loading '/lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode4.fw' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:03.0' with driver 'bcm43xx'
[03:06] <d03boy> how do I get this driver to work
[03:06] <family> have it working with Edgy Kubuntu by chance ?
[03:07] <csills> yes
[03:07] <family> they say SVN version of it works, but the server is down -- so I can't get it, I'm looking for someone with a _recent_ copy
[03:07] <csills> hmm let me check
[03:08] <robotgeek> family: oh well :)
[03:08] <robotgeek> d03boy: what card do you have? broadcom ?
[03:08] <family> robotgeek, can't blame a guy for trying :)
[03:09] <csills> how do you verify the version for easyubuntu
[03:10] <robotgeek> csills: if you got it off svn, the svn info command tells you
[03:10] <family> probably either as a comment in the python script, or a help menu would be my stabs
[03:13] <family> csills, I get a ton of errors when trying to run it... clean install of Kubuntu Edgy (6.10)
[03:14] <evolus> i edited kdmrc
[03:15] <evolus> for 100 dpi fonts
[03:15] <evolus> since i cant load the system
[03:15] <evolus> Crash
[03:15] <evolus> how can i reedit the file kdmrc ?
[03:15] <evolus> can i do it via live cd ?
[03:16] <robotgeek> evolus: the file should be in /etc/kdm, i think
[03:16] <robotgeek> you can hit ctrl + alt + f1 and edit
[03:16] <family> csills, what install method did you use for EU (easyubuntu) ?
[03:16] <csills> I had some errors at first.
[03:17] <csills> I had installed under gnome desktop
[03:17] <csills> and did not work
[03:17] <Benner> Grrr it did 3 days im trying to make work my Radeon X1600 in kubuntu 6.10.. i installed the ati drivers, seem to have worked fine because the resolution seem good, the colors are better than vesa, and window can be move without flickering.. BUT all the fonts are so big that i can't do nothing. even start a konsole.. but when i load xwindows from recovery mode, startx.. load perfect without that bigs fonts... Please somebody help
[03:17] <evolus> robotgeek: i cant use these commands
[03:17] <evolus> freeze screen
[03:18] <csills> Looks like I downloaded the wget http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/files/easyubuntu-3.023.tar.gz
[03:18] <csills> and installed it again
[03:18] <csills> it has worked ever since then
[03:18] <robotgeek> evolus: are you sure its frozen?
[03:18] <evolus> yes
[03:19] <evolus> the underscore is frozen
[03:19] <robotgeek> evolus: okay, reboot. maybe boot into recovey mode
[03:19] <csills> it works under gnome and KDE desktop now
[03:19] <evolus> i tried
[03:19] <evolus> that doesnt works
[03:19] <robotgeek> evolus: do you have the live cd/install cd, try from there
[03:19] <evolus> yes
[03:19] <evolus> i am on the live cd now
[03:20] <evolus> how can i access to my system ?
[03:20] <robotgeek> evolus: there should be a "repair" my pc option
[03:20] <evolus> cause when i try to access partition /
[03:20] <evolus> i dont see these option
[03:21] <evolus> i searched
[03:21] <csills> family do you need the file again?
[03:21] <robotgeek> evolus: okay, you have me confused.
[03:21] <evolus> i must work and i cant access to my system
[03:21] <evolus> i hope i dont **** all
[03:21] <evolus> all my work / config is precious :(
[03:22] <family> csills, i get errors with that... I'll try again though .
[03:23] <family> csills, are you using a pretty bare Kubuntu ?
[03:23] <csills> nope
[03:23] <family> ubuntu ?
[03:23] <csills> I upgraded Ubuntu a good while ago
[03:24] <csills> yes the base install was ubuntu
[03:24] <family> See, before I had to install the Ubuntu-desktop on Kubuntu before it would work
[03:24] <family> lot of extra junk I'm not really wanting to install
[03:24] <csills> then I installed Kubuntu on top of Ubuntu
[03:24] <csills> yes I know
[03:24] <csills> well I was new to Ubuntu and was just playing around
[03:24] <csills> not that I regret it
[03:25] <csills> works flawlessly now
[03:25] <csills> love it
[03:25] <confusco> does anybody have an idea why my game is running slow? I've installed the nvidia driver correctly and direct rendering is on.
[03:25] <family> I like easyubuntu, but don't want to install 750Meg of extra _junk_ to run it ;)
[03:26] <csills> so you have a clean kubuntu install right
[03:26] <unix_infidel> Anyone here play XBL?
[03:26] <inkwell> how do i install a kde theme?
[03:27] <robotgeek> family: heh, just use the wiki :)
[03:28] <family> robotgeek, easyubuntu wiki ?
[03:29] <luca> !theme
[03:29] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:29] <robotgeek> family: no, ubuntu wiki
[03:29] <luca> !install_theme
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install_theme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <luca> !install theme
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install theme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <robotgeek> luca: hmm, you might go want ot look at www.kde-look.org
[03:29] <Jordan_U>  confusco: what game?
[03:29] <luca> I was trying to find a good guide for inkwell :)
[03:30] <confusco> Tribes 2
[03:30] <luca> not able to explain it properly now - I am on gnome
[03:30] <luca> and do not remember every step
[03:30] <inkwell> where do i......!install theme?
[03:31] <inkwell> what is !install theme
[03:32] <robotgeek> !yourself | inkwell
[03:32] <ubotu> inkwell: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:32] <Jordan_U> !changethemes
[03:32] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[03:32] <ironfroggy> anyone know a firefox extension that does something like add a button to quickly bookmark a page as "read later"
[03:32] <ironfroggy> and maybe also a button to "read something marked for later"
[03:32] <robotgeek> ironfroggy: i like the add bookmark here extension
[03:33] <robotgeek> ironfroggy: create2 folders on your toolbar, and you are done
[03:33] <starhawk> hi all
[03:34] <ironfroggy> thanks
[03:34] <robotgeek> hi starhawk
[03:34] <evolus> erf, i must reinstall all
[03:34] <evolus> :(
[03:35] <robotgeek> evolus: err, no
[03:35] <robotgeek> evolus: linux users never reinstall :)
[03:35] <robotgeek> evolus: okay, are you dual booting or single booting?
[03:35] <evolus> dual boot
[03:35] <starhawk> I am tring to set up my internet I downloaded kubuntu 6.10 it is wireless linksys b the wireless pannel dosnot see it
[03:36] <robotgeek> !wireless | starhawk
[03:36] <ubotu> starhawk: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:36] <starhawk> oh it is usb adapter
[03:36] <robotgeek> starhawk: see if your card is supported first
[03:37] <starhawk> I dont see it in the docs
[03:37] <starhawk> been there
[03:37] <evolus> robotgeek: why ?
[03:37] <robotgeek> starhawk: complete model of card please
[03:37] <Benner> Grrr it did 3 days im trying to make work my Radeon X1600 in kubuntu 6.10.. i installed the ati drivers, seem to have worked fine because the resolution seem good, the colors are better than vesa, and window can be move without flickering.. BUT all the fonts are so big that i can't do nothing. even start a konsole.. but when i load xwindows from recovery mode, startx.. load perfect without that bigs fonts... Please somebody help
[03:38] <robotgeek> evolus: okay, what happens when you boot into rescue mode from cd?
[03:38] <evolus> idem
[03:39] <evolus> frozen when loading of tty fonts
[03:39] <family> robotgeek: probably me looking in the wrong place, but I'm not finding much help
[03:39] <evolus> error with ndiswrapper but i dont think that is the problem
[03:39] <robotgeek> evolus: hmm, strange. and all this because you changed dpi?
[03:39] <evolus> because my fonts were ugly
[03:39] <evolus> thats stupid XD
[03:39] <robotgeek> family: i can guide to the page on the ubuntu wiki, i am also trying to get on to the svn :)
[03:40] <family> robotgeek: I would appreciate that
[03:40] <robotgeek> family: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:40] <starhawk> it is a linksys b wireless usb adapter 2.4 ghz wusb11ver. 2.8
[03:40] <family> robotgeek: I've already been to that page, it doesn't have much to do with getting easybuntu running though
[03:41] <starhawk> it is a linksys b wireless usb adapter 2.4 ghz wusb11 ver. 2.8
[03:41] <BluesKaj> lenny from lalaland
[03:41] <robotgeek> starhawk: can you tell the output of "lsusb -v" and paste it somewhere?
[03:42] <starhawk> it will be a minite or two
[03:42] <robotgeek> family: sorry, cant do much about easyubuntu right now.
[03:42] <robotgeek> starhawk: sure
[03:44] <yanqing> howto call the katapult
[03:44] <yanqing> it has run, how to call out?
[03:44] <robotgeek> yanqing: alt + space
[03:45] <yanqing> I got nothing with alt+space
[03:45] <robotgeek> yanqing: hmm, strange.
[03:45] <ank> works right out of the box here
[03:46] <yanqing> edgy?
[03:46] <robotgeek> yanqing: it worked for me in dapper too
[03:46] <yanqing> yes, in dapper it's ok
[03:47] <ank> edgy here
[03:47] <robotgeek> evolus: it does not make a lot of sense, to be honest
[03:48] <Benner> Grrr it did 3 days im trying to make work my Radeon X1600 in kubuntu 6.10.. i installed the ati drivers, seem to have worked fine because the resolution seem good, the colors are better than vesa, and window can be move without flickering.. BUT all the fonts are so big that i can't do nothing. even start a konsole.. but when i load xwindows from recovery mode, startx.. load perfect without that bigs fonts... Please somebody help
[03:48] <robotgeek> Benner: binary driver?
[03:49] <evolus> ill test some tips
[03:49] <evolus> ++
[03:49] <evolus> thanks robotgeek
[03:49] <robotgeek> starhawk: this page says your card might work wth ndiswrapper: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#L
[03:49] <Benner> i installed drivers like when you type !ati here
[03:49] <confusco> does anybody have an idea why my native game(Tribes 2) is running slow(Half FPS of Win). I've installed the nvidia driver correctly and direct rendering is on.
[03:49] <robotgeek> Benner: maybe uninstall, then?
[03:49] <ceros> i'm having trouble burning the dvd iso image for kubuntu on the ppc
[03:50] <Benner> ok for install, but how to remove ?
[03:50] <ceros> when using k3b, the error i keep receiving is that images over 4gb are not supported
[03:50] <robotgeek> Benner: you can use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:51] <robotgeek> Benner: by going to "ctrl + alt + f1" and back by "ctrl + alt + f7"
[03:51] <Benner> yes i did that alots of time, tried fglrx and ati..   the ati one freeze the boot, but fglrx have jumbo fonts... what is weird, is when im in recovery mode, it works fine
[03:52] <robotgeek> Benner: i dont use ati, i dunno. sorry
[03:52] <Benner> ctrl-alt-f1 gives me a orange distortioned image, ctrl-alt-f7 goes normal
[03:53] <ceros> anyone know of another way to burn the dvd?
[03:53] <robotgeek> Benner: it should ave given you a terminal
[03:53] <robotgeek> ceros: k3b does not work?
[03:53] <ceros> ok, what other way can i burn this dvd?
[03:54] <Benner> ok looks like im having drivers problem if i cant go into others console... tell me, the page with ati instructions you gave me, was for ubuntu 6.10.. but im running kubuntu..is it the same instruction?
[03:54] <robotgeek> Benner: should be
[03:55] <intelikey> ceros gnomebaker k3b xcdroast are all frontends to     cdrecord
[03:55] <intelikey> or used to be.
[03:55] <Benner> i downloaded ati drivers from ati.com.. it's a 50mb .run file.. how i can start this app?
[03:55] <alex__> could anyone give me some advice on installing a lexmark z611 printer?
[03:55] <ceros> is there anything i can do on the command line?
[03:56] <fribuntu> ceros: you could use cdrecord directly, but I am not sure if it supports images > 4GB
[03:56] <intelikey> Benner chmod 755 *.run ;./*.run
[03:57] <intelikey> ceros cdrecord is cli
[03:57] <alex__> i have the drivers unpackaged but when i go to install them from printer management list, there's no z611
[03:57] <Benner> intelikey: thanks let me try.. in recovery mode or in a konsole is ok?
[03:58] <intelikey> Benner yes either   may need sudo.
[03:58] <intelikey> !sudo
[03:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:59] <intelikey> Benner sudo chmod 755 *.run ;sudo ./*.run    <--- with sudo.
[04:00] <Benner> intelikey.. ok it's installed.. i'm rebooting...
[04:01] <ceros> the thing is the dvd iso image for kubuntu on the ppc is 4.2GB
[04:02] <intelikey> 0,0
[04:02] <ceros> cdrecord keeps giving me the error that it can't burn images over 4gb
[04:02] <Benner> intelikey: ok it's installed correctly, but i still have my jumbo font problem :(
[04:03] <intelikey> kcontrol  set all fonts
[04:04] <Benner> when i put my xorg.conf in vesa mode, everything is fine, with flgrx jumbo fonts... i think i will take a photo of the screen to show you
[04:04] <FFForever> how do i install a newer kernel?
[04:05] <intelikey> newer than ?
[04:05] <FFForever> .17r5
[04:05] <rhodri> hi, i'm trying to change the colors of my kubuntu, but can't find the setting for the main frame in the file browser, can anyone help!??!  thanks
[04:05] <intelikey> FFForever get the source and build it.
[04:05] <FFForever> i cant just use apt-get?
[04:06] <kuja__> cdrecord doesn't do dvds, it only does cds.  dvd+rwtools burns dvds
[04:06] <intelikey> FFForever for newer than 2.6.17   not likely
[04:06] <intelikey> FFForever dapper still uses 2.6.15
[04:07] <starhawk> I am a dummy and cant make the floppy work or the internet
[04:08] <intelikey> starhawk sudo mkdir /media/floppy ;sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy -o umask=000
[04:08] <Benner> intelikey: can i send you the pictures i took to give you an idea of my problem?
[04:08] <starhawk> I am not good with the command line thats why I choose kubuntu
[04:08] <intelikey> Benner no.
[04:08] <intelikey> dialup.
[04:08] <starhawk> for the graphical interface
[04:08] <robotgeek> starhawk: are you still trying to get the outut?
[04:09] <kuja__> dialup can be rather painful to get working in linux....
[04:09] <starhawk> wireless tooo
[04:09] <intelikey> kuja__ not if you have a modem
[04:09] <intelikey> it is a pain if you are playing with a winmodem
[04:10] <robotgeek> starhawk: okay, just tell me what the id: xxxx is on lsusb
[04:10] <kuja__> True enough.
[04:11] <Benner> i though i could have a great experience using kubuntu for the first time... my first step is already alots of problems not even able to make my ati card working... i really tried but unfortunaly i have to go back at windows :(
[04:12] <root_> exit
[04:12] <intelikey> Benner you have the worst vidio card possable for a linux configuration....   or next to it...
[04:12] <starhawk> id 0000
[04:12] <kuja__> ATI on Linux? Ewwww
[04:13] <robotgeek> starhawk: what about dev: xxxx
[04:13] <intelikey> yep.  linux + ati = yuch
[04:13] <Benner> the thing who make me mad, it's a font problem not a driver problem...
[04:14] <kuja__> What sort of font problem?
[04:14] <starhawk> device 001
[04:14] <intelikey> scaling
[04:14] <Benner> can i send you screenshot kuja?
[04:14] <starhawk> as far as I can tell
[04:14] <kuja__> sure, why not
[04:15] <Benner> kuja__it's does that right after fgrlx install
[04:16] <kuja__> does what? I've yet to see anything
[04:16] <Benner> doesnt allow me to send to dcc server says
[04:17] <Benner> i'll give you an url
[04:17] <renato__> boa noite alguem poderia me ajudar a instalar minha webcam?
[04:18] <Benner> kuja__ http://<IP_ADDRESS>:81/1.jpg
[04:18] <Benner> kuja__ http://<IP_ADDRESS>:81/2.jpg
[04:18] <Benner> kuja__ http://<IP_ADDRESS>:81/3.jpg
[04:18] <renato__> se tiver alguma alma abenoada ai pra fazeresta beno :(
[04:19] <robotgeek> Benner: holy crap!
[04:19] <robotgeek> !es
[04:19] <kuja__> Oh my ...
[04:19] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:19] <robotgeek> binary driver are evil!
[04:19] <ash211> !pa
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <Benner> yes holy crap!
[04:19] <kuja__> So, does the card work at all without the proprietary drivers?
[04:20] <Benner> yes in vesa mode it's works fine.. and it's work fine in fgrlrx but only if i go in recovery mode and type startx
[04:20] <alex__> anyone know why i wouldn't be able to view my printer driver cups?
[04:20] <kuja__> recovery mode = bad idea
[04:20] <kuja__> I have an idea
[04:20] <Benner> good
[04:21] <kuja__> go into a terminal
[04:21] <kuja__> type in
[04:21] <kuja__> adduser testfont
[04:21] <kuja__> su - testfont
[04:21] <kuja__> startx
[04:21] <kuja__> You'll have to kill x first though
[04:21] <robotgeek> kuja__: dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig wont help him?
[04:22] <crimsun> robotgeek: for...?
[04:22] <kuja__> Maybe it will, maybe it won't?
[04:22] <intelikey> startx will fail if x is already running
[04:22] <robotgeek> crimsun: he has huge fonts, i was just guessing :)
[04:22] <crimsun> ah
[04:22] <Benner> im in recovery mode in the console now.. so wich one first ?
[04:22] <kuja__> Well, he said the fonts are fine if he's root (a different user), so I wondered if it could have something to do with user specific configuration
[04:23] <crimsun> (btw, in edgy it would be dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config )
[04:23] <robotgeek> in feisty, it will be fontconfig-config-config
[04:23] <intelikey> oh that's like redondantly repetitive
[04:24] <Benner> Native, Autohinter or auto?
[04:24] <Benner> oups auto = none
[04:24] <kuja__> Do you have a CRT or LCD monitor?
[04:24] <Benner> CRT
[04:24] <kuja__> try native ... if I remember right hinting doesn't look right on some crts
[04:25] <crazy_bus> Thank you to the person who was helping me.  KDE works again now.
[04:25] <Benner> enable fontmapping per default?
[04:25] <nathan> I can't seem to access the internet with my rt2500 card with 6.10 any ideas
[04:26] <Skeez187> How do I manually save a session in Kubuntu?
[04:26] <intelikey> i dont know what an rt2500 is but there may be a wiki on it.
[04:26] <kuja__> It's in the K-Menu
[04:26] <intelikey> !wifi
[04:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:27] <intelikey> !network
[04:27] <kuja__> > enable fontmapping per default?
[04:27] <kuja__> yes
[04:27] <lascar> does anyone know how to add additional display resolutions to the x-server?
[04:27] <Benner> ok i rebooted, did the same
[04:27] <nathan> I can see the network but it won't connect
[04:28] <intelikey> lascar get a better card ?
[04:28] <lascar> ::sighs::
[04:28] <lascar> i got a bigger monitor
[04:28] <kuja__> Benner: might as well try my idea then
[04:28] <intelikey> lascar all joking aside. reconfigure X
[04:28] <Benner> i'll have to try you idea kuja, but tommorow i copy paste your lines
[04:28] <lascar> intelikey: I know.  How?
[04:28] <Benner> because i really have to go now :(
[04:29] <intelikey> lascar sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:29] <kuja__> later
[04:29] <Benner> tanks guys i ll come back tomorrow!
[04:30] <kuja__> Hope he wrote it down, I certainly won't be in tomorrow, have to work.
[04:30] <intelikey> benner needs a new keyboard.  his "h" isn't working.
[04:30] <kuja__> *work the day after tomorrow, really, really, really early that is
[04:30] <kuja__> intelikey: lol
[04:30] <intelikey> see there is no h in tohmarrow
[04:30] <intelikey> :)
[04:31] <intelikey> kuja__ you laughed to soon and ruined that one.... ;/
[04:31] <intelikey> :)
[04:32] <Skeez187> Alright I cant find it
[04:33] <kuja__> I guess it was worth dropping in... haven't touched IRC in years
[04:33] <intelikey> kuja__ glad ta have ya with us.
[04:34] <nathan> how do I check what driver kubuntu is using for my wirless card
[04:34] <kuja__> The servers I liked died, kind of like how the forums I like die, &c
[04:34] <intelikey> nathan lsmod ?
[04:35] <campbch> anyone know why the mlnet core won't load on kmldonkey?
[04:36] <Skeez187> I'm using edgy, how doi manually save my session
[04:36] <Skeez187> ?
[04:36] <robotgeek> Skeez187: K-Menu -> Save Seeion
[04:37] <Skeez187> .. owned by stupidity.
[04:37] <campbch> !p2p
[04:37] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[04:37] <intelikey> Need to get 240kB/54.9MB of archives.
[04:37] <intelikey> After unpacking 183MB of additional disk space will be used.
[04:38] <kuja__> I never thought to look there either. It still stumps me as to why I can't save it from kcmsmserver
[04:39] <intelikey> that's for installing kde.... i don't think i will.
[04:40] <intelikey> hah to install gnupg   it says   The following extra packages will be installed:
[04:40] <intelikey>   libusb-0.1-4
[04:40] <intelikey> why would gnupg depend on libusb-0.1-4 ???
[04:40] <alex__> could anyone give me some help with installing a printer?
[04:41] <intelikey> !cups
[04:41] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:41] <lascar> intelikey: no thanx; i've used that before, and it certainly doesn't ADD resolutions
[04:41] <lascar> there's some manual editing involved
[04:41] <lascar> and i'd like to know where
[04:41] <lascar> !x-server
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <mad> hey everybody ))
[04:42] <intelikey> add repos ? lascar what are you on about ?
[04:42] <lascar> display resolutions.  Same as before?
[04:42] <mad> #ubuntu
[04:42] <kuja__> You have to check which resolutions you'd like when doing the reconfigure-xserver, afterwards it should be able to change it from systemsettings
[04:43] <intelikey> lascar sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   <--- if you will answer the questions correctly.  that is what you want.
[04:43] <BluesKaj> !X
[04:43] <lascar> kuja_: and how would i do that?
[04:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:43] <intelikey> it does add resolutions if you configure correctly.
[04:44] <kuja__> It has, or should have, a question regarding resolutions (it doesn't seem to behave quite the same in edgy though)
[04:45] <intelikey> kuja__ i can't speak for edgy.  dapper is as far as i go.
[04:45] <lascar> tell me about it
[04:45] <intelikey> try adding -plow
[04:46] <lascar> nothing wrong with the refresh rate
[04:49] <lascar> kuja_: what if i edited the Screen section of the xorg config?
[04:50] <intelikey> kuja__ have they indeed removed the only useful part of the reconfig process in edgy ?
[04:51] <kuja__> No, I just remember it misbehaving once or twice before, I'll double check now to check though
[04:52] <intelikey> or should i say root's home.
[04:53] <kuja__> Seems to still have all functionality to me *restores backup*
[04:54] <intelikey> asked for the rez's like a good reconf should ?
[04:55] <kuja__> yup
[04:56] <lascar> kuja_: for the record, there was no change
[04:57] <intelikey> that's nice.
[04:58] <dragonfly7> What is a good GUI app to burn data CDs?
[04:58] <bipolar> dragonfly7: k3b
[04:58] <kuja__> Now that I think really hard about it, I think it was linked to my closing out konsole in the middle of a reconfigure :P
[04:58] <lascar> intelikey: look, whatever problems you have, kindly get over them.  This is a support channel hosted over the internet.  What personal issues could you possibly have with me?
[04:58] <dragonfly7> bipolar: Thank you.
[04:58] <intelikey> lascar that's nice.
[04:58] <bipolar> dragonfly7: yw
[05:01] <raphael1> sup
[05:01] <raphael1> guys
[05:01] <lascar> bonsoir
[05:01] <intelikey> kuja__ that's do it... seeing that you have the option to write certan sections befor moving to the next section.... a forced exit after the first write would definitely hose the config.
[05:02] <intelikey> s/'s/'ll/
[05:05] <kuja__> ah, I see, user error strikes again ;)
[05:05] <intelikey> pebcak
[05:08] <kuja__> Hmm, looks like the room went quiet on me allofasudden
[05:08] <intelikey> al  lof  as  ud  den   ?
[05:09] <intelikey> #ubuntu is prolly still krazy
[05:09] <intelikey> if you like scrolling text
[05:10] <crazy_bus> For some reason the music in The Battle of Wesnoth has a sort of crackle to it.  The sound effects don't and neither does anything else.  Does anyone know how to fix it?
[05:11] <kuja__> A hammer will give you a good start.
[05:11] <intelikey> have hammer and mace.  need a longbow.
[05:12] <kuja__> What do you run it in anyway, wine I presume?
[05:12] <intelikey> crazy_bus i turn the music off in wesnoth.  play my own audio files....   never have even dl'd the music files for it.
[05:13] <crazy_bus> No.  It's a open source multiplatform game
[05:13] <intelikey> kuja__ no it's native
[05:13] <kuja__> amazing, those are far and few between :O
[05:13] <intelikey> !wesnoth
[05:13] <ubotu> wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.8-1 (edgy), package size 1820 kB, installed size 4140 kB
[05:13] <brett> is there any graphical c++ coding environments for linux?
[05:13] <intelikey> and the official channel is here on freenode.
[05:13] <intelikey> #wesnoth
[05:13] <kuja__> brett: try kdevelop
[05:14] <brett> kuja__: the channel?
[05:14] <crazy_bus> I know, I joined it 2 minutes ago
[05:14] <intelikey> !kdevelop brett
[05:14] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[05:14] <kuja__> channeL/
[05:14] <intelikey> !kdevelop | brett
[05:14] <kuja__> **channel?
[05:15] <brett> oh
[05:15] <brett> heh
[05:15] <david> does anyone here use frostwire?
[05:15] <david> I've been having problems connecting lately any ideas why?
[05:15] <intelikey> david is this a poll or is there an ensuing quarry ?
[05:15] <CVirus> hehe
[05:16] <brett> thanks
[05:17] <david> i was just wondering if anyone else is having problems with it, frostwire that is
[05:17] <david> I haven't been able to establish a connection for about 1 week
[05:17] <brett> I found a program in add/remove or adept.. i dont remeber which that allowed me to switch my desktop behavior to a more Windows like interface... but now i forgot ... does anyone know what it is called?
[05:18] <kuja__> which behavior are you trying to change?
[05:18] <brett> the clicking mostly... i want to click to select
[05:18] <brett> rather then to run
[05:18] <lascar> ah
[05:19] <kuja__> In other words, to make it click to select, doubleclick to run?
[05:19] <lascar> brett: system settings -> peripherals -> mouse
[05:20] <msl> david, I didn't have any problems earlier today
[05:20] <lascar> change the settings in the "Icons" box under the "General" tab
[05:20] <brett> lascar: thanks
[05:20] <lascar> brett: np
[05:21] <brett> with kdevelop can i design forms in a gui or only through text?
[05:22] <kuja__> through the gui
[05:22] <FFForever> how do i install flash?
[05:24] <crazy_bus> does anyone know what the path would be for the main folder of Battle of Wesnoth?
[05:25] <rerere> does anyone know where  to configure the log in screen on 6.10
[05:26] <crazy_bus> Don't worry I've found it
[05:26] <msl> crazy_bus: /usr/share/games/wesnoth/
[05:26] <msl> nm :)
[05:27] <kuja__> rerere: you can use kcontrol to do it
[05:28] <rerere> i'll tryed but if i set a different backround it will show the backround after i loged on not on the main log on screen
[05:30] <kuja__> rerere: It's a Kubuntu issue ... never had any trouble with that in Debian. You'll probably have to do something more complicated to be able to switch it.
[05:30] <rerere> and the changes i made in /etc/kde3/kdm don't work as well
[05:31] <rerere> yes debian no prob
[05:31] <rerere> i just need to find the path where the log in screen is configured
[05:32] <FFForever> anyone wanna help me get sound in flash9?
[05:35] <LeeJunFan> rerere: /etc/kde3/kdm
[05:35] <rerere> and the changes i made in /etc/kde3/kdm don't work as well
[05:35] <LeeJunFan> rerere: changes to kdm? you need to disable the theme, that overrides everything else.
[05:35] <LeeJunFan> rerere: Theme=no or whatever.
[05:36] <rerere> i c i will try that
[05:36] <LeeJunFan> rerere: if you look you'll see that line having to do with enabling theme in kdmrc
[05:37] <rerere> ok thanks
[05:37] <crazy_bus> Has anyone here installed The Battle of Wesnoth from add/remove programs and then later added in the sound files with adept?
[05:38] <FFForever> nope, why would u do that?
[05:40] <crazy_bus> I installed the game in Add/remove programs because I saw it there.  But the version there is the one without campaign and music packages.  And it didn't say so
[05:40] <rerere> LeeJunFan: /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu got it thanks
[05:40] <LeeJunFan> rerere: ah, you changed the theme to suit your needs then instead of disabling it?
[05:41] <crazy_bus> So to get the music I chose the package in adept.  However the music in the Wesnoth game has a crackle in it
[05:42] <rerere> LeeJunFan: no worrys i will find my way around now
[05:43] <FFForever> why dose the vlc player for firefox say no video?, but if i download and play it it works
[05:53] <sdlnxgk> Happy Thanksgiving Everyone !!!
[05:53] <crazy_bus> Is it thanksgiving?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> It will be in 6 min...
[05:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:54] <Dr_willis> here at least.
[05:54] <crazy_bus> Is it still Wendnesday where you are?
[05:55] <FFForever> how do i make vlc's firefox plugin work with wmv's?, it just says no video
[05:57] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis I hear  ya on the 6 mins have to go to work and didn't want to forget :)
[05:57] <sdlnxgk> ya still Wed here 2100hrs
[05:57] <sdlnxgk> Wed Nov 22 21:04:54 PST 2006
[05:58] <Dr_willis> allready had one turky dinner at work....
[05:58] <Dr_willis> get another one tomorrow....
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Yummm......
[05:58] <Dr_willis> I can feel my self getting sleepy now..
[05:58] <sdlnxgk> I will have three when it's all  said and down
[05:58] <sdlnxgk> having one at work tonight
[05:58] <sdlnxgk> then at home tomorrow
[05:58] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to install the latest "Battle of Wesnoth" to fix my problems.  If I followed this tutorial, what would I need to change to make it work in Kubuntu?
[05:58] <sdlnxgk> then at work again
[05:58] <crazy_bus> http://gaming.gwos.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=63
[05:59] <Dr_willis> crazy_bus,  may be easier to just get the latest source and install it in your users home dir.
[06:00] <sdlnxgk> nice webpage  have to bookmark that one
[06:00] <crazy_bus> How would I do that? Dr_willis?
[06:00] <sdlnxgk> trying  to get this patch installed for WoW right now which is a big FAT no go...
[06:00] <Dr_willis> crazy_bus,  thats absicially what that guide is doing.
[06:00] <sdlnxgk> talking to cedega channel to get it fixed
[06:01] <Dr_willis> crazy_bus,  you may just need to install some gnome dev pacakges..  follow the guide and see if any errors pop up.
[06:01] <crazy_bus> ok, I'm trying it now
[06:01] <Dr_willis> crazy_bus,  or try          ./configure   instead of  ./configure --disable-gnome1  --with-gnome
[06:02] <Dr_willis> I perfer to ./configure --prefix=/home/willis/mystuff
[06:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:02] <Dr_willis> that way it stays in my homedir.. not installed systemwide
[06:02] <crazy_bus> I'm just not very adventurous with installing having my KDE recently break :(
[06:03] <changeagent> just curious, but why did gaim 2 make it into Ubuntu edgy and not Kubuntu edgy? (yea, I know but I don't like Kopete)
[06:04] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. you mean installed by default? the 2 should be using the same repositories.
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !info gaim2
[06:04] <ubotu> Package gaim2 does not exist in any distro I know
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !info gaim
[06:04] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 3712 kB
[06:05] <changeagent> ubuntu advertises it as being available in edgy
[06:06] <Dr_willis> we have advertisements?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> egads wesnoth-1.1.12.tar.gz   is 70mb.. thats a large amount of source for a game.
[06:07] <Starwatcher> hey all question has anyone have a problem with thunderbird v1.5.08 linking with firefox v2?
[06:07] <crazy_bus> Yes, considering I just downloaded the older version to have it not work properly
[06:08] <DFM> evening
[06:09] <Starwatcher> older version thunderbird or firefox i have to problem with firefox bring up thunderbird but thunderbird can do no updates or search for extention without it being able to call on firefox
[06:10] <Starwatcher> to=no
[06:20] <DFM> I want to install Ubuntu 64bit on my system that already dual boots xp/kubuntu
[06:20] <DFM> when I install will it add itself to grub?
[06:20] <DFM> or will it rewrite grub and cause me to loose access to the 32bit version?
[06:21] <DFM> I have been searching but guess I don't know what to look for.
[06:27] <kuja__> DFM: it will rewrite your grub such that it will use the grub menu.lst from the new installation. It should detect both of the others though
[06:28] <LeeJunFan> DFM: that's right, when your system boots you will have your choice of all 3 OS'es but the grub it will be using will be the one on your new installation, so if you need to edit grub then edit the one on your newest installation.
[06:29] <DFM> ok
[06:29] <DFM> if I uninstall the 64 bit version how do I reset grub like it was before?
[06:30] <LeeJunFan> DFM: first boot into the 32 bit version and run sudo grub-install hd0, or whatever your HD is.
[06:30] <LeeJunFan> DFM: running that from your 32 bit install will install it's grub config to the HD.
[06:31] <DFM> i see
[06:31] <DFM> then edit grub to remove reference to 64 bit?
[06:31] <FreddyM> Jucato, ping
[06:32] <Jucato> FreddyM: pong
[06:32] <FreddyM> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137758
[06:32] <FreddyM> can you confirm this
[06:32] <FreddyM> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+bug/72522
[06:32] <FreddyM> using that data
[06:33] <Jucato> FreddyM: I can't set bugs in KDE to CONFIRMED. only devs can do that
[06:33] <DFM> final ?.....do you recommend that I put 64 on win hd since I only use it for gaming and if something messes up then nothing is lost
[06:33] <Jucato> I'll just comment that I'm experiencing it to
[06:33] <FreddyM> Jucato, we can't get it fixed because LP is a non-KDE site and the KDE team needs feedback to KDE apps on their page
[06:33] <Jucato> s/to/too
[06:33] <DFM> or add more partition's to linux drive?
[06:33] <FreddyM> Jucato, no i mean leave the same comment you left on the LP page on the b.k.o page
[06:34] <Jucato> oki dokie
[06:34] <FreddyM> Jucato, that's what i mean
[06:34] <LeeJunFan> FreddyM: I've never seen that, really it sounds like your lag might actually be loss, and rexmitting the away message to the IRC server because the ACK timed out.
[06:34] <LeeJunFan> FreddyM: you on wireless?
[06:34] <FreddyM> LeeJunFan, no
[06:35] <FreddyM> i connect via DHCP to my shcoo networks
[06:35] <Jucato> FreddyM: done. and why aren't you using your regular nick? :P
[06:35] <kuja__> I'm not experiencing any trouble like that, and my lag is far worse. I'm using a different server though...
[06:35] <FreddyM> I can check the /raw file  around sunday
[06:35] <FreddyM> Jucato, the other nick is connected at my school computer, 200 miles away
[06:35] <Jucato> oh....
[06:36] <LeeJunFan> FreddyM: if it's a registered nick you can kick it.
[06:36] <LeeJunFan> /msg nickserv help
[06:36] <FreddyM> LeeJunFan, i know but I like to have my uptime
[06:37] <FreddyM> arg i got dc'ed somehow
[06:47] <stuart> can someone advice how to remove software not showing in synaptic
[06:47] <stuart> advise that was
[06:47] <Dr_willis> how did you install it?
[06:50] <Dr_willis> that way they can have more shopping days. :)
[06:51] <darkangel> hi!! I need an expert opinion... what's better, open office or star office? XD
[06:52] <Admiral_Chicago> darkangel, i like Koffice
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Open office is the free varient that used to be staroffice i thought.
[06:52] <Dr_willis> is there still an actual staroffice?
[06:53] <darkangel> mmm why? koffice, what's the difference?
[06:53] <Dr_willis> i find abiword does what i need.
[06:53] <Jucato> KOffice integrates well with KDE
[06:54] <Jucato> OpenOffice.org is cross platform and probably handles ODF formats better than the others
[06:54] <Jucato> Abiword can't even open .odt, I think
[06:54] <Admiral_Chicago> darkangel, you'll find it's a matter of what you like, i like Koffice and abiword and hate Open Office
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> other people HATE Koffice and love OpenOffice
[06:55] <Jucato> OopenOffice is also a bit heavy, and usually needs Java (you can turn it off)
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> but i still reccomend OpenOffice to Windows users
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, i'll keep that in mind, i hate java
[06:56] <darkangel> ok I think I should try koffice, thank's for advice!
[06:56] <archangel_> Hey anyone here know how you can access your bluetooth cell phone (Razr) through kubuntu?
[06:56] <archangel_> can you do that?
[06:56] <archangel_> Windows XP cant do it very well at all
[06:57] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, yes
[06:57] <Dr_willis> thers severral bluetooth packages you can install that enable it.. it can be a little bit of work..
[06:57] <archangel_> sweet, I had a feeling you could
[06:57] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup might help
[06:57] <crazy_bus> Abiword can open odt
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Bluetooth seems to be one of those over hypped things.. :) it was just supposed to revolutonize everything!
[06:58] <archangel_> I have blue tooth software installed
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Its slowly gaining ground i guess.
[06:58] <archangel_> I just dont know how to run it
[06:58] <omari> man i hate to be the guy dependent on windows but there is too many configurations that are needed to be done before linux is a good machine
[06:58] <omari> for the home consumer
[06:58] <Jucato> Dr_willis: time to step outside the house  :)
[06:58] <omari> that is
[06:58] <Jucato> O.o
[06:58] <omari> but thats what you pay for with windows
[06:58] <omari> ease of mind and hassle
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> omari, i've heard the opposite
[06:59] <omari> even more so than with linuxx
[06:59] <omari> i mean dont get me wrong windows ihas alot that needs to be done also but
[07:00] <omari> most of it is point click
[07:00] <Admiral_Chicago> omari, i installed Kubuntu on a guy's computer and he told me "I hated setting up drivers in windows"
[07:00] <omari> mental capability of a 5 year old
[07:01] <omari> bubut at least with windows you know your getting the latest drivers
[07:01] <Jucato> Kubuntu is specifically built for the home consumer/desktop user. You barely have to do any setup, unless you have some exotic hardware. What takes time is to set it up the way Windows is set up (like codecs). but that's unique to Kubuntu
[07:01] <omari> not some patch created by joe blow in the attic
[07:01] <omari> i love the concept of linux
[07:01] <omari> GNU
[07:01] <omari> i am forcing myself to get into it
[07:02] <Jucato> omari: Kubuntu does not even recommend using patches or drivers from 3rd party repositories
[07:02] <Jucato> from some "joe blow in the attic"
[07:02] <omari> i got suse on the tlap adn kubuntu on the desk
[07:02] <omari> but is gets tiring
[07:02] <Jucato> bottom line: Linux is not for everyone, just as Windows or Macs aren't for everyone
[07:02] <omari> tru tru
[07:03] <Admiral_Chicago> omari, i think it's more of a "set up out of the box" with Kubuntu, Windows is a long process
[07:03] <Lynoure> omari: I'd love to take this discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic but I do not want to take part of it here as it is not a support matter
[07:03] <Jucato> [end of -offtopic discussion]
[07:03] <omari> oh this is a a support froom
[07:04] <omari> i just thought it was the kubuntu community room
[07:04] <omari> my b
[07:05] <omari> i still like it thats why im not done with it yet thanks
[07:21] <archangel_> how can I connect via data cable to my Razr?
[07:24] <archangel_> anyone?
[07:24] <archangel_> I will ahve to pick this up tomorrow
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, maybe check the forums
[07:24] <archangel_> I cant keep my eyes open
[07:25] <archangel_> thanks Admiral_Chicago
[07:35] <family> whats the command to give the old "first time kde" setup wizard ?
[07:35] <Jucato> family: the program is called KPersonalizer. not installed by default
[07:35] <family> one that askes if you would like to go with a certain style, change timezone, and turn off program-start feedback etc
[07:36] <family> Jucato: thanks
[07:51] <inkwell> Edit your ~/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc.......how?
[07:51] <PurpleMonkey> help needed. How to set the Networking DNS so that it will NOT reset when the computer go to sleep. I am using a router. The Firefox cannot connect to internet when that happen
[07:55] <isecross> Hello, i need help, I installed yesterday firefox 2.0 and when i'm goint to page starting of https:// i got that error:
[07:55] <isecross> Check to make sure your system has the Personal Security Manager
[07:55] <isecross>     installed.
[07:55] <Schalken> where are icons stored?
[07:56] <Jucato> Schalken: icons installed by admin or through a package manager /usr/share/icons/ icons installed by the user using System Settings/KControl ~/.kde/share/icons
[07:58] <Schalken> Jucato: sry yeah thats what im looking for, thanks!
[08:18] <smaggard> happy thx giving!!! gobble gobble!
[08:19] <Jucato> hehe :)
[08:21] <d03boy> i need some help getting wireless to work
[08:23] <d03boy> help me or i'll eat your soul
[08:28] <unix_infidel> d03boy: is that a question?
[08:29] <eilker> !vmware > eilker
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> !wireless : d03boy
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless : d03boy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> !wireless | d03boy
[08:32] <ubotu> d03boy: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:32] <XVampireX> Anyone tried ktorrent 2.1beta1?
[08:33] <Emess> nope
[08:33] <musya3d> anyone here know how to use kopete? or does use t?
[08:33] <musya3d> it*?
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> XVampireX, no but ti want know
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> musya3d, what about it?
[08:34] <musya3d> i cant seem to get my accounts to log on, and it asks for my wallet password which i give to it but it says incorrect password, and its not incorrect thats for certain.
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> musya3d, did you try your log in password?
[08:37] <musya3d> yea i did
[08:37] <musya3d> how would you go about relogging into your accounts anyway i cant seem to find that option?
[08:39] <XVampireX> Admiral_Chicago: I'm compiling, will tell you how it goes
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> musya3d, delete your ~/.kde/shares/kdewalletmanager I believe it is
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> XVampireX, cool
[08:43] <musya3d> Admiral_Chicago: where is that file at?
[08:44] <RoC_MM> musya3d, that's the path
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> /home/user/.kde
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> user being your log in name
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> ~/ is shorthand
[08:45] <musya3d> cant seem to find that directory nor file
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> musya3d, please open up konsole
[08:47] <cntb> clicking links here on xchat brings konqueror. I would like firefox to show links by default instead.HOw?
[08:47] <Schalken> where are the system color schemes stored?
[08:48] <Jucato> Schalken: /usr/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes or ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes
[08:49] <musya3d> is terminal the same as konsole?
[08:49] <Schalken> musya3d: yes
[08:49] <Schalken> Jucato: cheers!
[08:49] <musya3d> ok its open now what?
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> musya3d, cd ~/
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> ls
[08:51] <eilker> hi people, anyone experienced in vmware ?
[08:52] <unix_infidel> eilker: what would you like to know?
[08:53] <eilker> unix_infidel:i wanna try other operating systems(like redhat,suse,bsd,win 2003 server etc.) in my linux/kubuntu, is free products of vmware enough for me ? or should i buy commercial softwares ?
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> musya3d, can you PM me?
[08:53] <unix_infidel> eilker: what do you want to use the Operating Systems for?  General worksation testing, Enterprise Worksation Testing, SOHO Server Testing, Enterprise Server Testing?
[08:54] <unix_infidel> eilker: you should also be asking yourself...What software will i be running on the Guest Operating System.
[08:55] <eilker> unix_infidel:first step for me, to know those operating system desktop enviroment, its structure etc, my aim is on experience, nothing related with complex thing at the moment
[08:56] <unix_infidel> eilker: Then finally you should ask yourself, What is my host hardware?  Will it support my testing needs.
[08:57] <unix_infidel> eilker: I'd personally recommend using no less than p4 and 512MB RAM for vmware anything.
[08:57] <eilker> unix_infidel:p4 2.4 and 512 ram here already
[08:58] <londo4> How can I Check whether your application uses OSS instead of ALSA???
[08:58] <unix_infidel> eilker: that's bare minimum.  If you have the opportunity to upgrade to atleast 1GB RAM that would be favorable.
[08:58] <londo4> Hallo Admiral_Chicago?
[08:58] <unix_infidel> londo4: use alsa-oss and it wont matter, you can have legacy oss apps use alsa :)
[08:58] <Admiral_Chicago> londo4, hello
[08:58] <Admiral_Chicago> is your system wokring
[08:59] <londo4> No man
[08:59] <londo4> I` m trying untill now
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> londo4, i think it is in sytem settings, sounds or something
[08:59] <londo4> Do you can give me that instruction again?
[08:59] <peanutb> how would i set up my windows wifi driver with ndiswrapper? it seems to give an error on boot up, something about invalid argument and modprobe
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> i'd check but i'm afk my main computer at home. on windows :|
[09:00] <londo4> ok
[09:00] <eilker> unix_infidel:i see, thank you
[09:01] <peanutb> anyone
[09:01] <unix_infidel> eilker: you want to run vmware on linux or windows?
[09:01] <londo4> I have a old computer that mean I`m using OSS application ?
[09:01] <Admiral_Chicago> !ndiswrapper
[09:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> peanutb, that's the best i could do
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not a networking person at all
[09:03] <peanutb> its time for me to get a native linux wifi card, i guess.
[09:04] <eilker> unix_infidel:i wanna run it in my kubuntu
[09:04] <unix_infidel> eilker: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
[09:04] <unix_infidel> get that and go for it.
[09:05] <unix_infidel> Be aware though, that using vmware server 1.0 with Server 2k3 has some SERIOUS Limitations.
[09:05] <eilker> unix_infidel:yeah i was already there:) , and should i need to download vmware player thing ? it is free too, what is it for ?
[09:06] <unix_infidel> eilker: yes, its totally free. its a program
[09:07] <unix_infidel> eilker: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209
[09:07] <unix_infidel> That tutorial is to install windows xp, the Linux installs are very similar.
[09:07] <Schalken> where is trash stored?
[09:07] <Jucato> O.o
[09:07] <cntb> NV11DDR [GeForce2 MX          100 DDR/200 DDR]  (rev b2) i slegacy or not ?
[09:08] <Jucato> Schalken:
[09:08] <Schalken> Jucato: can you search hidden files?
[09:08] <Jucato> Schalken: ~/.local/share/Trash/
[09:08] <eilker> unix_infidel: i have already checked the tutorial too, thanks:) but i couldnt undstand your warning  "Be aware though, that using vmware server 1.0 with Server 2k3 has some SERIOUS Limitations."
[09:08] <cntb> Schalken, maybe trash is per user ? in .trash ?
[09:09] <Jucato> Schalken: afaik, yes
[09:09] <Schalken> cntb: thats what i thought :P
[09:09] <Schalken> where is the search thing anyway?
[09:09] <unix_infidel> eilker: You mentioned earlier that you wanted to use windows server 2003 with Vmware Server 1.0.
[09:09] <Jucato> Schalken: Find Files/Folder in the K Menu, or Ctrl+F in Konqueror
[09:09] <cntb> in konsole Schalken
[09:10] <cntb> Schalken, cd ~
[09:10] <cntb> user@pc1ubuntu:~$ cd .Trash/
[09:10] <cntb> user@pc1ubuntu:~/.Trash$
[09:10] <eilker> unix_infidel: ohh 2k3 means windows server 2003:) got it
[09:11] <Schalken> cntb: no such folder as ~/.Trash it appears it's actually ~/.local/share/Trash/ as Jucato said
[09:11] <Schalken> Jucato: only the latter searching method works
[09:11] <Schalken> Jucato: what is the command for what would normally be 'find files/folders' in the kmenu?
[09:11] <cntb> ah on my sys tis exactly there ok
[09:12] <Jucato> Schalken: kfind
[09:12] <Schalken> Jucato: cheer
[09:12] <Schalken> s
[09:13] <eilker> unix_infidel: i am excited of wmvare, i am gonna try many os, it is a great software right ?
[09:13] <Jucato> it should be in the K Menu by default anyway, beneath Add/Remove Programs
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> night all, especially you Jucato
[09:13] <unix_infidel> eilker: Vmware Server will do what you want it to do.  It's not great software by any means, its very limited compared to ESX or Xen or even XenE
[09:13] <Schalken> Jucato: my kmenu is still the same as i had configured it in suse
[09:14] <peanutb> ohh my wifi card is alinksys, thats why it dosnt work very well.
[09:14] <Jucato> Schalken: that's weird. it should have these by default beneath Utilties: Add/Remove Programs, Find Files/Folders, Help, System Settings
[09:14] <Jucato> anyway, off to bed for a while.
[09:15] <Schalken> lol, 'for a while'
[09:15] <Jucato> quick nap.
[09:15] <Jucato> quick afternoon nap to subdue my asthma
[09:16] <eilker> unix_infidel: esx is also vmware company product too as i know, do u suggest me to use Xen or XenE ? i can change my mind with your comments...
[09:17] <eilker> !Xen
[09:17] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[09:17] <unix_infidel> eilker: Vmware server will be your most cost efficient solution.
[09:20] <eilker> unix_infidel: i see, may i send you a private msg ?
[09:21] <unix_infidel> eilker: I'd prefer you keep it in the channel as others might benefit from your  questions and comments.
[09:22] <kruemeltee> morsche
[09:22] <eilker> unix_infidel: may be it is not allowed here to ask one of my question, ok no problem :)
[09:24] <eilker> unix_infidel: anyway thank you very much for your help, see you
[09:25] <[Nige] > anyone got ati drivers working with edgy?
[09:40] <sYnie> hey there. am i allowed to use pictures on a homepage, that are under the gpl ? like the icons, coming with KDE ?
[09:40] <crimsun> as long as you cite them.
[09:40] <crimsun> (give credit where credit is due)
[09:41] <sYnie> of course, i'll do.
[09:46] <musya3d> How do i open up ports on a kubuntu system? anyone know?
[09:47] <rerere> unix_infidel: so XEN is free and you can boot xp inside kubuntu?
[09:47] <unix_infidel> rerere: the first part is true, the second part is iffy.
[09:47] <rerere> iffy?
[09:48] <unix_infidel> rerere: google Xen and Windows.
[09:48] <kasim> Hi, is 'qt4-assistant' available in kubuntu edgy? Seems to be missing for qt4-demo.
[09:48] <rerere> thanks already at it
[09:49] <kasim> musya3d: network ports? use python.
[09:50] <Daviey> Does kubuntu edgy use usplash or splashy as the boot splash screen?
[09:51] <rerere> XenSource has succeeded in booting Microsoft Windows on top of Xen software
[09:51] <devinus> I thought that Kubuntu used Firefox by default. What happened?
[09:51] <T3hWiz0rd> can anyone trouble shoot why SWAT wouildn't be working
[09:51] <kasim> rerere: in kubuntu i hope?
[09:52] <rerere> well i will try
[09:53] <rerere> any other solutions to avoid dual booting
[09:53] <rerere> FREE
[09:53] <kasim> rerere: im also interested, so this was more a question?
[09:54] <rerere> yes i will give it a try
[09:54] <devinus> Does anybody know what happened to Firefox in Kubuntu?
[09:54] <kasim> there is dual-boot, wine, qemo, xen, .... nothing is perfect yet imho
[09:54] <musya3d> devinus, nothing it should be there
[09:55] <musya3d> but then agian i installed mine over ubuntu
[09:55] <musya3d> you can get it with apt-get
[09:55] <achmet_> why when i try to enable the nvidia drivers its give me the message (
[09:55] <achmet_>  unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[09:55] <achmet_> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[09:55] <kasim> devinus: firefox is not included in a out-of-the-box kubuntu but can be installed manually
[09:55] <rerere> kubuntu comes without firefox apt-get
[09:56] <musya3d> devinus do this, sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:56] <achmet_> what's wrong with nvidia drivers? why i can't enable them?
[09:56] <devinus> musya3d: will firefox use kde programs for playing video and such?
[09:57] <musya3d> mmm, not sure, what kind of videos?
[09:57] <musya3d> most web based video or games are in java or flash,
[09:58] <T3hWiz0rd> SWAT seems to not start at all
[09:59] <kasim> again: anyone aware of Qt4-Assistant?
[10:02] <family> where do I go to turn off the launch feedback ?
[10:02] <family> where it does the bouncing icon as an app loads ...
[10:03] <kasim> T3hWiz0rd: i also gave up on SWAT, after a very short testing time. Dont know what kubuntus default way of Samba-Handling is. I use naked config files ...
[10:07] <family> application startup notification .. thats what I wish to turn off
[10:08] <noiesmo> open system settings go advane then session manager
[10:08] <noiesmo> family, ^^^^
[10:08] <noiesmo> family, open system settings go advance then session manager
[10:09] <noiesmo> doh family it's service manager
[10:09] <pred2k3> hi, will my installed packackes be deleten when I upgrade to edgy?? (ps: how can I see my latest version?)
[10:09] <family> whats it called in there ?
[10:09] <T3hWiz0rd> kasim: so swat never worked for you
[10:10] <family> noiesmo: still don't see it
[10:11] <kasim> T3hWiz0rd: not immediately, gave up after some minutes. I use smb.conf directly
[10:12] <T3hWiz0rd> kasim: i can't get smb.conf to join my doamin
[10:12] <T3hWiz0rd> domain
[10:12] <T3hWiz0rd> i want to be able to log into my nt4 domain users
[10:14] <fuzzy> how mount windows partitions in kubuntu?
[10:14] <kasim> T3hWiz0rd: so you have an nt4-server running and want to use kubuntu as client? Then use Konqueror with url smc://nt-server/share
[10:14] <ruzle> Dven  flink a :D
[10:14] <fuzzy> jepp ;)
[10:15] <fuzzy> men vil gjerne ha svar  da
[10:15] <fuzzy> :P
[10:15] <ruzle> fr nok svar snart
[10:15] <fuzzy> for jeg begynner  g lei eminem - when i'm gone
[10:15] <fuzzy> :P
[10:15] <T3hWiz0rd> kasim: i want to be able to LOG INTO my domain users
[10:15] <T3hWiz0rd> kasim: not just "Brows" their shares
[10:15] <T3hWiz0rd> log in with them
[10:16] <fuzzy> how mount windows partitions in kubuntu
[10:16] <fuzzy> sjekk loggen din da vel ruzle??
[10:16] <ruzle> looking 4 it
[10:17] <kasim> T3hWiz0rd: i dont understand what you mean by 'log into a domain user'?
[10:18] <ruzle> finner faen ikke annet enn logg fra idag
[10:18] <fuzzy> bah
[10:19] <fuzzy> kasim: can you help me? how mount windows partitions in kubuntu?
[10:19] <Fiyawerx> ?? bugs on the floor stop moving
[10:19] <Fiyawerx> nice, wrong chan :)
[10:20] <kasim> fuzzy: you CAN mount (with command 'mount') vfat and ntfs partitions
[10:20] <fuzzy> thx
[10:20] <Jucato> !ntfs
[10:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:21] <kasim> fussy: i assume you have those partitions on a dual-boot Kubuntu and Win Box
[10:22] <mike-ekim> Hi guys, i tried going from gnome to Kubuntu-desktop, i installed pacakage KDE, and kubuntu-desktop, and i see many KDE applications, including "Konsole" but it still boots into gnome
[10:22] <mike-ekim> any help with this
[10:22] <kasim> Jucato: what? I have a XP-ntfs partition mounted to my kubuntu FS
[10:22] <ruzle> fuzzy: wget wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[10:22] <ruzle> no just : wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[10:22] <ruzle> hehe
[10:23] <fuzzy> kasim: i'm totally new with this kubunti thingy.. what i did was formatting the hd windows was on.. installed kubuntu.. and on the other hd i have all the mp3, moovies etc.. i want to find that
[10:23] <ruzle> fuzzy: jeg har funnet ut av det ffs...
[10:23] <fuzzy> kjk
[10:23] <fuzzy> men jeg skjnte ikke hva du mente
[10:23] <ruzle> Se p kompete
[10:24] <kasim> fuzzy: is this mp3-HD formatted with NTFS or vfat|fat32 filesystem? What OS was it?
[10:25] <mike-ekim> can someone please help me with this kubuntu-desktop issue?
[10:25] <kasim> mike-ekim: i did that some time ago and had to DEINSTALL some gnome progs
[10:27] <T3hWiz0rd> so, i've supposedly got my computer successfully joined to my windows domain
[10:27] <T3hWiz0rd> when logging into linux, how do i point it to a domain login?
[10:28] <Jucato> mike-ekim: have you chosen KDE from the Sesssion in the menu at login?
[10:28] <T3hWiz0rd> i know on a mac to log into a domain it would be domainname/user
[10:28] <Seeker`> mike-ekim: Did you change the session you were loggin in to?
[10:29] <mike-ekim> no
[10:29] <mike-ekim> lol
[10:29] <mike-ekim> sec.
[10:29] <mike-ekim> im so stupid sorry giys
[10:29] <mike-ekim> too late
[10:30] <kasim> T3hWiz0rd: you want the user-authentication be done by that nt-box?
[10:30] <T3hWiz0rd> kasim: yeah so i can log into my domain user when i need to
[10:31] <XVampireX> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/KTorrent_2_1beta1_has_been_released
[10:31] <kasim> T3hWiz0rd: you keep repeating the phrase 'log into my domain user'. Cant you tell in other words what that is for you?
[10:32] <T3hWiz0rd> kasim: as in log into my nt users account via linux
[10:32] <T3hWiz0rd> i have user profiles on the nt server that i want to log into. The same profiles i log into via windows.
[10:33] <kasim> T3hWiz0rd: log in with which prog. ssh? Grafical stuff vnc, nx?
[10:33] <T3hWiz0rd> kasim: i want to be able to log into it as an account
[10:33] <T3hWiz0rd> kasim: the same way a mac can, using the domain account
[10:33] <T3hWiz0rd> this computer needs to be a domain client
[10:34] <T3hWiz0rd> i want to be able to log into the computer using my samba domain user profile
[10:35] <unix_infidel> why in the world would you use smb/cifs to authenticate?
[10:36] <T3hWiz0rd> unix_infidel: because its a network with a domain?
[10:40] <T3hWiz0rd> net rpc says it joined the domain
[10:58] <fuzzy> How can i watch webcam in Kopete?
[11:05] <luca> hi everyone
[11:05] <luca> is anybody using eclipse, by chance?
[11:07] <ubuntu> hello
[11:07] <Seeker`> luca: yes
[11:07] <ubuntu> what up?
[11:07] <luca> Seeker: how would I import a project? I am trying to learn, I am really newbie with the program :)
[11:08] <luca> I am trying to use bioclipse
[11:08] <Seeker`> i dont know what bioclipse is
[11:09] <Seeker`> and where do you want to import a project from?
[11:09] <ubuntu> i dont know this program
[11:09] <luca> http://www.bioclipse.net/ it is something like a project? plugin? I dunno how to define it...
[11:09] <luca> something which should be run in eclipse...?
[11:09] <luca> I am new as I said :(
[11:11] <ubuntu> it's a science software?
[11:11] <Seeker`> have you managed to install bioclipse?
[11:11] <luca> yes perfectly
[11:11] <luca> yes ubuntu
[11:11] <ubuntu> ok
[11:12] <luca> what should I do now?
[11:12] <Seeker`> http://wiki.bioclipse.net/index.php?title=Getting_Started
[11:12] <luca> I have tried to use the executable, and tried to import the zip into the eclipse, but no good :(
[11:13] <ubuntu> im graphic designer
[11:13] <luca> Seeker: problem is I do not get to the first screen
[11:13] <luca> I guess there lots of plugins for your work too :)
[11:14] <rerere> ubuntu: graphic desiner on linux?
[11:14] <luca> should I paste the error message on pastebin?
[11:14] <ubuntu> in mac too
[11:14] <rerere> linux what programes you use?
[11:14] <ubuntu> in linux: gimp. inkspace
[11:14] <Seeker`> luca: Yes
[11:15] <ubuntu> sodipodi
[11:15] <ubuntu> sribus
[11:15] <ubuntu> just freesoftware
[11:16] <rerere> thats what i try but coming from cs2 photoshop and corel draw x3 is quite difficult
[11:17] <luca> url should be this: http://pastebin.com/831205
[11:18] <ubuntu> my web
[11:18] <ubuntu> refritostudio.com
[11:18] <ubuntu> www.refritostudio.com
[11:20] <Seeker`> i dont know what would cause that
[11:20] <ubuntu> hola macro
[11:20] <ubuntu> eres de chile por lo que veo
[11:22] <luca> firstly it would not see the java, so I followed the faq and tried to change the ini - this is what I get :(
[11:23] <linux_> hey all
[11:23] <ubuntu> hi linux
[11:25] <luca> hi
[11:25] <linux_> he ubuntu how long are you into the linux now ?
[11:28] <luca> nothing, there seems to be some problem with java :(
[11:28] <linux_> how can I remote control my windows 2003 server with linux ?
[11:28] <luca> in general, in any case, how would I use an eclipse-generated program or plugin?
[11:31] <devin_> is there a page that describes fiesty fawn and expected features?
[11:31] <devin_> i want kde4 :-D
[11:35] <nikko> Hi to all. I have installed Gnome under Kubuntu. With "apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" can i remove it? Or there is any other way to remove it? Thnaks
[11:40] <luca> nikko: no way
[11:40] <luca> nikko: if you remove only ubuntu-desktop, you will remove nothing from your computer
[11:41] <luca> nikko: maybe aptitude can do the trick, from console, but from synaptic, it is a pain, you have to track the packages manually :(
[11:41] <nikko> luca: Is there any other way?
[11:41] <Brushwell> ubuntu-desktop is a dummy package. It's safe to remove.
[11:42] <luca> not that I am aware of
[11:42] <luca> which does not mean much actually :)
[11:43] <nikko> When you install ubuntu-desktop you can select which enviroment you want. There is the same option when u try to remmove it?
[11:43] <zezelle> salut
[11:43] <zezelle> jai un probleme
[11:44] <defrysk> !fr | zezelle
[11:44] <ubotu> zezelle: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:49] <linux_> my firefox won't play flash ??
[11:49] <linux_> I already have installed diverend things
[11:50] <Jucato> have you install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[11:52] <XVampireX> !flash | linux_
[11:52] <ubotu> linux_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:52] <linux_> oke thanks guys
[11:52] <XVampireX> Weird, should have given some info on Flash
[11:52] <XVampireX> not just freeformats in general
[11:52] <XVampireX> or restricted
[11:53] <defrysk> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[11:53] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:53] <T3hWiz0rd> anyone got any idea why kubuntu is saying smbfs is not a correct file system type?
[11:54] <Jucato> XVampireX: the instructions for installing flash is in the RestrictedFormats page
[11:54] <velle> hi, I cant find a way to set a keyboard shortcut for changing keyboard layout. Is it possible?
[11:55] <Jucato> velle: System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[11:55] <Jucato> (on Dapper, that would be System Settings -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts)
[11:56] <XVampireX> Jucato: I know, but it should have at least given a direct link, like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#flash (Or whatever it was)
[11:57] <Jucato> XVampireX: it's hardly practical to give a specific link for each and every codec/plugin, specially since those specific anchors could change anytime, while the RestrictedFormats page does not (or rarely)
[11:59] <velle> Jucato: thanks :) i have been looking there before, but for some reasons i did not see it in the list
[12:00] <visik7> anyone succeed to get zeroconf working on kde ?
[12:00] <visik7> through zeroconf:/
[12:00] <visik7> anyone succeed to get zeroconf working on kde through zeroconf:/ ?
[12:00] <visik7> sorry
[12:04] <cntb> bbl
[12:04] <eilker> lets say i have two users, first is x, second is y, what happens if igive this command "sudo adduser x y"
[12:12] <teledyn> god i hate konqerrror
[12:12] <Jucato> ?
[12:13] <teledyn> how the heck to i get it to stop automounting /media/cdrom0?  i don't even have an entry for it in fstab but konqerror goes and does its own thing anyway
[12:13] <eilker> !tee
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: look in kcontrol
[12:13] <teledyn> there's a "mounting" tab in the properties thing if you right click it, but its greyed out
[12:14] <kuoke> fedora core 6 rulz
[12:14] <teledyn> kcontrol -> Disks and Filesystems is just a glorified front-end to edit /etc/fstab
[12:15] <kuoke> !fedora
[12:15] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[12:15] <defrysk> teledyn, settings > controlcenter >peripherals > storage media > advanced tab > turn enable blah blah off
[12:15] <Jucato> it's hardly Konqueror's fault, though. there might be something amiss in fstab, or in the control module that defrysk pointed out
[12:16] <teledyn> defrysk: thanks
[12:16] <defrysk> teledyn, stop hating ;)
[12:16] <Jucato> Konqueror itself does not automount anything
[12:16] <teledyn> defrysk: i want to :-)
[12:16] <defrysk> ;p
[12:17] <teledyn> defrysk: its been a bad day.  i did have to build my own kernel because of a couple bugs with the stock ubuntu 2.6.17 generic
[12:17] <defrysk> teledyn, control center is your friend :)
[12:17] <teledyn> defrysk: that must be why its not in the ubuntu menu by default?
[12:17] <defrysk> it is in mine
[12:17] <defrysk> setting > controlcenter
[12:17] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: look under storage media
[12:18] <Jucato> System Settings -> Notifications -> Storage Media Notifications
[12:18] <teledyn> defrysk: in the Storage Media Advanced tab there's only one box: Enable medium application...   the other 2 are selected but greyed out
[12:18] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: under peripherals
[12:18] <teledyn> i'm in kcontrol as root
[12:18] <Jucato> defrysk: KControl or the Settings menu is not enabled in Kubuntu K Menu by default
[12:18] <Jucato> you don't need to be root afaik
[12:19] <defrysk> hmmm
[12:19] <teledyn> either way the options are greyed out
[12:19] <defrysk> Jucato, thats not good i thiink
[12:19] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: bet cd polling is active
[12:19] <Jucato> defrysk: why? System Settings is already there anyway
[12:19] <teledyn> Linux_Galore: it is but i can't dselect it
[12:19] <Jucato> note: I don't want to get into a System Settings vs KControl discussion right now
[12:19] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: sudo kcontrol
[12:20] <teledyn> Linux_Galore: read above.  that's what i'm doing.
[12:22] <Linux_Galore> sounds like a service is mounting the device
[12:23] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: kdesu, please
[12:23] <teledyn> Linux_Galore: right now the media is ejected
[12:23] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: dont forget fstab is an old init thing Ubuntu doesnt use init
[12:24] <teledyn> Linux_Galore: really?  I didn't know that.   what does it use instead?
[12:24] <Linux_Galore> upstart
[12:24] <teledyn> wow.  thanks for that info.
[12:24] <Jucato> but it still uses fstab
[12:24] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: yes but once it up from what Im reading it doesnt really need the fstab anymore
[12:25] <Jucato> or are you talking about the UUID stuff?
[12:25] <teledyn> Jucato: but konqueror ignored my fstab entry for /dev/hdc including the mount point i set and did its own thing
[12:26] <Jucato> hm... wish I had more time to help. but gtg
[12:26] <Jucato> but if you guys are still around in around 45 minutes, I'll try to help again
[12:26] <Jucato> it would be good to pastebin your fstab to let others check
[12:26] <teledyn> /dev/hdc        /cdrom   udf,iso9660 unhide,user,noauto     0       0
[12:27] <teledyn> but konqerror mounts it at /media/cdrom0
[12:27] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: put a # in front of it
[12:27] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: aaah
[12:27] <teledyn> Linux_Galore: i tried that too
[12:27] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: yeah thats normal
[12:28] <teledyn> i think this is a konqueror issue unrelated to fstab
[12:29] <T3hWiz0rd> can someone explain to me why kubuntu will NOT. for the life of it, automount a samba drive in fstab
[12:29] <teledyn> well its not the end of the world.  the real show stopper earlier was the buggy 2.6.17 generic kernel which was giving sense erorrs on /dev/hdc and spewing in syslog about not being able to mount blank media
[12:30] <teledyn> my 2.6.18 custom fixed that plus an ACPI error
[12:30] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: if you mount it under /cdrom konqueror wont see it
[12:30] <teledyn> Linux_Galore: that would be perfectly fine with me.
[12:30] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: konqueror only sees /home /media  as a user
[12:30] <teledyn> in fact, preferable
[12:31] <teledyn> oh that's not good
[12:31] <teledyn> yeah i noticed that under ubuntu.  i just switched from sid not long ago.
[12:31] <Linux_Galore> theres a file under ~/.kde  to set the security
[12:31] <teledyn> i wish there were something like sid but a bit more tested and less unstable
[12:33] <teledyn> too bad debian is so badly managed that its spawned a zillion forks
[12:37] <teledyn> UseSecurityManager=true in konquerorrc   but that's all i can find.  setting it to false doesn't seem to have any effect.
[12:42] <xpoint> !apcupsd
[12:42] <ubotu> apcupsd: APC UPS Power Management. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.12.3-1 (edgy), package size 295 kB, installed size 1056 kB
[12:43] <xpoint> no howto :(
[12:43] <kuoke> lol
[12:44] <octan> xpoint, for howto try google :P
[12:44] <xpoint> i have apcupsd running as server on my gentoo box as master, but i like to add it to my ubuntu as client, problem for me is that the ubuntu is compiled without nis
[12:44] <octan> or the wiki
[12:44] <octan> !wiki
[12:44] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[12:45] <jerod> hallo
[12:45] <octan> hi
[12:45] <jerod> wie war eigentlich noch der name fr deutsche kubuntu hilfe
[12:45] <jerod> des chatraums
[12:46] <octan> !ubuntu.de
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu.de - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <octan> erm
[12:46] <xpoint> octan: there should be a way to be here
[12:46] <octan> !wiki apcupsd
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wiki apcupsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <octan> nop
[12:46] <octan> jerod english pls
[12:46] <jerod> can anybody help me  i need the roomname from the german help for kubuntu
[12:48] <Alter-Ego> !german
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about german - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <fabioFx> hi.. how to alternate workspace in kde (edgy)? with Ctrl+TAB does not function :(
[12:49] <apokryphos> it should... if not, change the shortcut from the system settings
[12:50] <fabioFx> thank's
[12:52] <MARTA> ubuntu edgy wont see on new lg core duo notebook  wired netcard RT8168/8111 . what is the cure ?
[12:53] <xpoint> octan: google is not nice here
[12:54] <octan> google is on you webbrowse .. last time i checked it was. www.google.com/linux :)
[12:54] <xpoint> octan: /etc/init.d/apcupsd start gives error cant connect to <IP_ADDRESS> port 3551
[12:55] <teledyn> jerod: vielleicht kubuntu-de
[12:56] <fuzzy> how can i watch webcam in the kopete msn thingy?
[01:01] <wildchild> !terminatorx
[01:01] <ubotu> terminatorx: A realtime audio synthesizer. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.82-7ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 326 kB, installed size 1300 kB
[01:02] <fuzzy> !amsn
[01:02] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[01:11] <Azzco> Hello I've got a small problem here... I've got the 1.42 version of Zsnes but I want to dowgrade to 1.36 due to some new problems in it... how do I do that with adept?
[01:16] <[GuS] > Bonjour tout le monde...
[01:24] <larsivi> are anyone experiencing crashes (in KDE apps, mainly konqui and kopete) that seems to originate in QPixmap ?
[01:25] <fuzzy> can anyone help me with telling me howto install a webcam?
[01:36] <ermak> i am using kubuntu 6.10, everywhere fonts are just perfect (i have installed msttcorefonts), but in openoffice fonts are ugly and i don't know how to change them, can anyone help me, please?
[01:40] <fribuntu> Hi all
[01:51] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hi
[01:57] <gtwy> happy thanksgiving
[02:03] <Th3_Cr0up13R> when is thanksgiving ?
[02:03] <Th3_Cr0up13R> what is it ? only us has it dont they ?
[02:04] <Skrot-> Th3_Cr0up13R: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=thanksgiving
[02:11] <Th3_Cr0up13R> Skrot-: i was saying like y do they have to do something like that?
[02:11] <Th3_Cr0up13R> usually only in america is big
[02:11] <Th3_Cr0up13R> and give thanx to what for what
[02:11] <Th3_Cr0up13R> ?
[02:11] <Th3_Cr0up13R> you know what i mean ?
[02:12] <Skrot-> Read the wikipedia article, I'm not from the US so I don't know :)
[02:12] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hehehe
[02:12] <Th3_Cr0up13R> me neither
[02:12] <gtwy> Th3_Cr0up13R: when the first settlers in america came here
[02:12] <gtwy> it was rough and people died alot
[02:12] <ZmAY> hello.. yesterday i switched my picture on 2 displays (TV as second display), now when i reboot system i cant go into system, instead of login screen there shows only kubuntu logo and stops.. on second display appars nothing, any help??
[02:13] <Jucato> it's beyond us to question countries' holidays... and hardly the channel to talk about it.
[02:13] <Jucato> don't mind me... :P
[02:13] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hehe do you want us to stop Jucato
[02:13] <gtwy> but after they had made initial peace with the indians and were starting to learn how to grow crops and live here they gave thanks
[02:13] <maverick> am wondering did anybody here successfuly install matlab on edgy
[02:13] <maverick> wiz everything working fine
[02:13] <maverick> ?
[02:14] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: just don't forget to check once in a while if someone's question has been overlooked :)
[02:14] <Th3_Cr0up13R> sounds good for what 500 years ago
[02:14] <fuzzy> can anyone tell me how to install quickcam? i've found the driver. tar.gz file.. but i'm n00b with this so i don't know how to install
[02:14] <gtwy> i was wondering the other day, which repository do i have to add to my list to install kismet ?
[02:14] <Th3_Cr0up13R> Jucato: what do you mean
[02:16] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: I mean that some valid Kubuntu-support question might be overlooked or buried with offtopic discussion
[02:16] <Jucato> which is why offtopic is usually discouraged
[02:16] <gnomefreak> gtwy: universe repo
[02:16] <Th3_Cr0up13R> Jucato: you are right, i am sorry
[02:16] <gtwy> gnomefreak: so i just add "univserse" after the url then, correct?
[02:17] <gtwy> if not ill just google it further
[02:17] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i just wanted to make conversation since noone was speaking at the time
[02:17] <maverick> So, no matlab users here
[02:17] <gnomefreak> !repos | gtwy
[02:17] <maverick> ?
[02:17] <ubotu> gtwy: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:17] <gtwy> :) thanks
[02:17] <gnomefreak> read that link ;)
[02:17] <maverick> So, no matlab users here?
[02:17] <tim_flatus> Hi, I've been trying to install kubuntu on a machine that originally had ubuntu hoary installed. Is the upgrade path known to be broken?
[02:17] <ZmAY> anyone here for display (Xorg) help?
[02:18] <tim_flatus> ZmAY, no, but I may be having similar problems. ;)
[02:18] <Hobbsee> tim_flatus: maybe a little.  you'll have to upgrade hoary --> breezy --> dapper --> edgy though
[02:18] <ZmAY> did u read my problem
[02:18] <Hobbsee> tim_flatus: so it's rpobably easier to download a cd
[02:18] <visik7> !zeroconf
[02:18] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB
[02:19] <tim_flatus> Hobbsee, I guessed you would say that. I've gone hoary -> Breezy -> Dapper so far and now have broken xorg.
[02:19] <scheuri> hi all
[02:19] <Hobbsee> tim_flatus: why's it broken?
[02:19] <ZmAY> maybe if someone know how to access Xorg.conf file?
[02:20] <tim_flatus> Hobbsee, claims not to able to find keyboard and mouse modules, although they're clearly installed.
[02:20] <Hobbsee> hrm
[02:20] <Hobbsee> ZmAY: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:20] <larsivi> are anyone experiencing crashes in QPixmap (in Konqueror, Kopete, etc) with Kubuntu 6.10 ?
[02:21] <ZmAY> brb
[02:23] <tim_flatus> Hobbsee, I think half my problem is that I'm used to the Debian way of doing things and I'm not up to speed on the Ubuntu approach. BTW I'm basically setting up a machine for a computer virgin who wants kastrolog. I thought a K/ubuntu system would be easier.
[02:24] <tim_flatus> Probably will be once I've figured out how to install it properly.
[02:24] <Hobbsee> tim_flatus: true, but X shouldnt break.  debian should handle it more or less the same way, too
[02:25] <tim_flatus> Hobbsee, that's what I thought.
[02:26] <tim_flatus> Maybe a driver issue with this particular video card :(S3 virge):
[02:26] <gtwy> what graphics card?
[02:26] <fuzzy> how come I can't run Amsn.. it starts loading, and then it just stops and disappears
[02:27] <tim_flatus> gtwy, you asking me? S3 virge
[02:27] <gtwy> i am not sure on ubuntu, but when i put gentoo on my amd64bit i had to recompile the kernel with modules enabled and download, compile and install the nvidia driver
[02:27] <gtwy> hmm not sure about S3
[02:28] <tim_flatus> gtwy, Hobbsee, I don't think I'm really asking the right questions. I'll come back in a bit.
[02:28] <gtwy> sorry i couldnt help
[02:28] <guiden> hello
[02:29] <tim_flatus> gtwy, np. Thanks for trying. ;)
[02:30] <guiden> anyone who knows a good guide to make the 3d acceleration for my ati radeon 9800 pro card to work properly?
[02:30] <Hobbsee> tim_flatus: i'd just clean install edgy on it.  that's probably safest.  however, dist-upgrades are mostly supported
[02:30] <Hobbsee> !ati | guiden
[02:30] <ubotu> guiden: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:31] <Momal> !mp3
[02:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:31] <guiden> uboto: thanks
[02:32] <guiden> ubotu*
[02:32] <gtwy> on this repository guide it is saing to use dapper-commercial main... actually a lot of the links say dapper, was that the last release?
[02:33] <gtwy> because all mine say edgy, which i know is the current release
[02:33] <gtwy> and it's telling me to add "dapper-commercial", but i feel i should be adding edgy-commercial
[02:34] <_al_> gtwy: if you use edgy add edgy-commercial
[02:35] <Momal> HELP! K3b wont let me make an audio cd when i drag in mp3s it says its an unsupported format but the mp3's play in amarok and other media players fine. I used to beable to make audio cds but for some reason just now I can't :S
[02:35] <Jucato> although edgy-commercial is practically empty
[02:35] <Jucato> Momal: do you have lame installed?
[02:35] <gtwy> would it mess anything up if i added dapper since edgy is empty?
[02:36] <Jucato> not really sure
[02:36] <Momal> Jucato: yes its installed
[02:36] <smoenux> is anyone here using Kopete for the Jabber protocol on Google Chat? I cannot get mine to work
[02:36] <Jucato> Momal: oops wrong package. you're trying to burn an audio cd right?
[02:37] <tim_flatus> Actually, one of the reasons I'm trying to avoid CD install is that I'm having problems burning CDs. Is it possible to mount the ISO directly from the hard drive somehow and install from that?
[02:37] <Jucato> smoenux: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support
[02:37] <Momal> Jucato: yea so I can use it in normal cd players :)
[02:37] <Jucato> Momal: you need libk3b2-mp3
[02:37] <Jucato> !libk3b2-mp3
[02:37] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 100 kB
[02:38] <smoenux> Thanks Jucato
[02:39] <defrysk> Momal, read : https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/burning-cds.html
[02:39] <Momal> Jucato: thanks it worked :D... weird I how it got removed.. I have burnted an audio cd before :S.
[02:39] <gtwy> who is having problems with google chat?
[02:42] <guiden> I can't become root
[02:42] <guiden> I never made a root account
[02:43] <Jucato> !sudo | guiden
[02:43] <ubotu> guiden: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:43] <guiden> ubotu: ok
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <Jucato> guiden: ubotu is a bot :)
[02:44] <guiden> haha what a good bot :)
[02:44] <scheuri> aye, he is nice...
[02:44] <scheuri> !cookie
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cookie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <scheuri> hm
[02:44] <gtwy> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support
[02:44] <scheuri> but does not accept cookies from strangers...
[02:44] <guiden> He already given me two usefull webpages
[02:44] <jpatrick> scheuri: biscuits, FTW
[02:45] <scheuri> jpatrick: ah, right...;)
[02:46] <Jucato> !botsnack
[02:46] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:46] <Jucato> scheuri: ^^^^^
[02:46] <smoenux> LMAO
[02:46] <scheuri> riiiight...but still...does not take cookies from strangers...;)
[02:46] <smoenux> oops... soz caps
[02:46] <guiden> How big is ubotu's script code? It must be huge if it's that "ntelligent"
[02:47] <Jucato> !ubotu | guiden
[02:47] <ubotu> guiden: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:47] <guiden> cool,
[02:49] <guiden> Is the kubuntu dist like an "outsider" or is the user like anyone who is using ubuntu generally?
[02:50] <gtwy> arent all us linux users outsiders ;)
[02:50] <DaSkreech> Does the Live CD come with LVM support?
[02:51] <Healot> iirc, no DaSkreech
[02:51] <guiden> Hehe I guess so ^o-o^
[02:52] <DaSkreech> great. So the CD is useless :(
[02:52] <gtwy> i have been using linux as a server OS since 1997, and honestly i am very very impressed with ubuntu/kubuntu as a desktop os.
[02:53] <DaSkreech> gtwy: Great spread the word!
[02:53] <DaSkreech> gtwy: Never mind just spread the CDs :-)
[02:53] <fuzzy> can anyone help me with a small issue?
[02:53] <fuzzy> how can i watch other peoples webcam in kopete?
[02:53] <defrysk> !anyone | fuzzy
[02:53] <ubotu> fuzzy: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:54] <fuzzy> jeje
[02:54] <defrysk> hehe
[02:54] <fuzzy> can you help me or not
[02:54] <gtwy> fuzzy: we'll never know if we don't know what's wrong
[02:54] <guiden> Well the only thing I'm not impressed of is the ammount of software available, the adept installer doen't have much programs, or have I missed something?
[02:54] <gtwy> eh use the package manager
[02:55] <DaSkreech> fuzzy: What protocol?
[02:55] <guiden> isnt't the adept installer the package manager?
[02:55] <fuzzy> hey i'm n00b.. talk english :P hehe
[02:55] <angasule> I believe nvidia has released new drivers and now the beta drivers are no longer needed to use AIGLX? I haven't installed Edgy yet to check, but if I'm right https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX needs to be updated
[02:55] <fuzzy> msn i guess if that was the question
[02:56] <gtwy> guiden: sure, but i figured you meant going though "add remove programs" because there is significantly less that way
[02:56] <DaSkreech> fuzzy: Ah I think there is a entry in the menus
[02:56] <gtwy> which programs are missing that you want? although i noticed 2 apps i wanted didnt exist, but it may be from legal issues
[02:56] <fuzzy> tried to find out.. looked everywhere in the menus.. :/ no such thing =/
[02:57] <fuzzy> DaSkreech: i can accept invites etc, but no picture comes up
[02:57] <DaSkreech> Ahh ok :)
[02:57] <gtwy> fuzzy: use kopete its an instant messenger that can do msn
[02:57] <DaSkreech> You could ask in #kopete
[02:57] <fuzzy> gtwy: i use kopete...
[02:57] <fuzzy> but i need to figure out how to view other peoples cam
[02:58] <gtwy> oh, got a little behind in the chat didn't realize that
[02:58] <fuzzy> ;)
[02:58] <angasule> fuzzy: you're on edgy? I was planning on installing edgy mainly because it should support msn webcams
[02:58] <fuzzy> do you know how to view the cams?
[02:58] <fuzzy> angasule:  i'm on edgy
[02:58] <Jucato> !webcam
[02:58] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:59] <angasule> fuzzy: and have you tried watching someone else's webcam? or just tried to send yours?
[02:59] <DaSkreech> angasule: someone else's I'd bet
[02:59] <fuzzy> yup.. tried several times.. but nothing happens
[02:59] <fuzzy> i accept the invite but theres nothing happening
[03:00] <gtwy> could issues with webcam be related to firewalls?
[03:00] <angasule> gtwy: I'm pretty sure it is, yes
[03:00] <angasule> I think msn's webcam is not NAT friendly
[03:00] <gtwy> fuzzy: figure out what port its on and forward that port to your computer
[03:01] <gtwy> and then send an invite
[03:01] <fuzzy> ok, that tells me nothing.. :P this is my first day using other things than windows :P hehe
[03:01] <gtwy> fuzzy: this would be something you would do on your router
[03:01] <guiden> How do I know which version of KDE I'm using?
[03:02] <gtwy> fuzzy: did msn webcam work when you were on windows fine?
[03:02] <angasule> guiden: pretty much all KDE programs have an 'about KDE' in the help menu
[03:02] <DaSkreech> guiden: open some random app and look under help
[03:02] <fuzzy> kk... i opened up several ports on my router.. but how can i find out what port the cam is on?
[03:02] <fuzzy> yes webcam worked perfectly
[03:02] <gtwy> google
[03:02] <gtwy> hmm if it worked fine before then it may not be the router
[03:02] <fuzzy> ok
[03:02] <Don-XY> Hallo everyone
[03:03] <gtwy> the people you tried to use it with, were they the same people you used it with before?
[03:03] <Don-XY> How are you doing?
[03:03] <Don-XY> I need some help, I` newbie man
[03:03] <guiden> But it said on the kubuntu page that it has kde 4, I only have 3.5.5 I'm maybe out of date