[00:00] <logan0405> Same with two finger tapping
[00:00] <Remoboth> TJ- -  Permission denied. :|
[00:01] <TJ-> Remoboth: You'll need super-user privileges to alter system files. How about this? "  P="/lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/firewire"; sudo mkdir -p /usr/local/$P && sudo mv $P/*.ko /usr/local/$P  "
[00:01] <TJ-> Remoboth: that moves the files to the same path under "/usr/local/"
[00:03] <Remoboth> TJ- -  It worked!
[00:03] <adam__> genewitch, the default DM or another?
[00:03] <shingshang> what could it possibly mean if I can't ctrl+alt+f1 on the login screen (it's all black)?
[00:03] <Remoboth> TJ- -  Would you happen to know the command line entry I would use to blacklist the driver you suggested earlier?
[00:03] <TJ-> Remoboth: now you need to unload the modules that might be in memory. First check if they are with "lsmod | grep firewire"
[00:03] <shingshang> I've just purged the nvidia drivers, so it looks like it's not nvidia afte rall
[00:04] <logan0405> Just set FingerLow to 1 & High to 2... Wouldn't expect to need that high of sensitivity but it works now
[00:04] <adam__> shingshang, it could be that the driver has an invalid setting for the framebuffer. nvidia?
[00:04] <genewitch> adam__: default
[00:05] <TJ-> Remoboth: If you see modules listed then, for each, do "sudo rmmod <module-name>"
[00:05] <shingshang> adam__: yeah, but I just purged all the nvidia driver though
[00:05] <wallon> alguem do brasil?
[00:05] <TJ-> Remoboth: always remove modules that have 0 dependencies first. Any module with something depending on it cannot be unloaded from memory.
[00:06] <Remoboth> TJ- -  Returned... firewire_ohci          40409  0
[00:06] <Remoboth> firewire_core          68769  1 firewire_ohci
[00:06] <Remoboth> crc_itu_t              12707  1 firewire_core
[00:06] <TJ-> shingshang: have you tried starting with the kernel command-line option "nomodeset" ?
[00:06] <shingshang> TJ-: how do I get there?
[00:06] <TJ-> Remoboth: So remove firewire_ohci first which will no longer depend on firewire_core so you can remove it too
[00:07] <TJ-> !nomodeset | shingshang
[00:07] <Ranieri_> Hey guys. I have a GUI application on my Mac (Rosetta Stone) and I want to access it remotely on my Ubuntu laptop.
[00:07] <genewitch> Ranieri_: with sound?
[00:07] <wallon> alguem teria ai um link de aulas sobre XUBUNTU?
[00:07] <Ranieri_> genewitch: Yea, sound, images, and if possible, microphone.
[00:08] <tonyt> what ever allon said
[00:08] <shingshang> TJ-: thanks will try that
[00:08] <Remoboth> TJ- -  O.k. Both have been removed. WHat next?
[00:08] <TJ-> !pt | wallon
[00:08] <TJ-> Remoboth: nothing, you've unloaded them modules and moved them so they can't be loaded
[00:09] <Remoboth> TJ- -  Much obliged!
[00:10] <BigJ> if I have an encrypted disk could it affect the suspend process?
[00:10] <psusi> BigJ, suspend to ram?  no
[00:10] <TJ-> BigJ: Not for suspend, but possibly for Hibernate
[00:11] <BigJ> I can't get my system to wake from suspend
[00:11] <genewitch> Ranieri_:  Remmina Remote Desktop Client?
[00:11] <genewitch> Ranieri_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleRemoteDesktop
[00:11] <TJ-> Remoboth: in case the kernel gets updated you should also blacklist those 2 modules as per the link I gave you earlier
[00:11] <genewitch> Ranieri_: no idea about sound though, 90% of search results are connecting to ubuntu from mac so i'm not sure if the sound stacks are compatible even
[00:12] <Ranieri_> genewitch: Sounds familiar. I'll do some research, thanks.
[00:12] <TJ-> Remoboth: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Loadable_Modules#Blacklisting_Modules
[00:12] <Ranieri_> genewitch: yeah :'(
[00:12] <shingshang> TJ-: that nomodeset page has broken image links all over, is it just me?
[00:13] <TJ-> shingshang: I think it's just you... are you behind a proxy maybe?
[00:14] <shingshang> not really, but there's a lot of click and discover imageshack links
[00:14] <shingshang> which I assume means it's broken?
[00:15] <shingshang> ugh, this might be hopeless, and I might have to reinstall my os after all
[00:16] <Remoboth> TJ- -  I am trying to edit the blacklist document but I am not sure how to save it...
[00:16] <Remoboth> IT opened up in the command line terminal.
[00:16] <TJ-> Remoboth: if you're using Ubuntu you might feel more comfortable using a GUI text editor. Try "gksudo gedit" which will run 'gedit' as the super-user so you can open/save system files
[00:18] <genewitch> my mouse isn't interacting with desktop windows in ubuntu 15.04; i can't click on firefox and bring it to foreground, or right click, or move windows, resize, etc. it does interact with the menu (i.e. launch firefox or open the home menu, right clicking for contextual). Default DM/WM.
[00:21] <adam__> genewitch, let's make sure the mouse buttons are registering. your issue is rather odd. open a terminal and run   xev      then move the mouse cursor inside the box (you'll see a LOT of output scrolling by, ignore that) then click. does the click register an output?
[00:21] <Remoboth> TJ- -  So I would just add " blacklist firewire_ohci " and " blacklist firewire_core " to the blacklist.config document and close it out?
[00:21] <zakedodead> should ctrl+space minimize windows on 14.04? I'm on cinnamon but I can't find it under settings-->keyboard-->shortcuts
[00:21] <zakedodead> annoying as hell in games
[00:21] <adam__> genewitch, bear in mind that xev will display a huge chunk of data for each pixel move of the mouse, so the slightest movement while clicking may fire off a stream of them
[00:22] <TJ-> Remoboth: Yes
[00:23] <genewitch> adam__: no there's no scrolling
[00:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[00:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> backed up home
[00:24] <adam__> genewitch, sounds like either the mouse is broken or not sending signals to the OS
[00:24] <adam__> here's a classic:  jiggle the cord
[00:24] <genewitch> adam__: the mouse works fine on the left side of the screen and the like top right. the middle it's not doing anything
[00:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> now how do i update
[00:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> lol
[00:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> not doing anything in the middle
[00:24] <genewitch> the desktop area
[00:25] <genewitch> but i can click "Files"
[00:25] <genewitch> And files comes up
[00:25] <genewitch> i can't click in files. this started after an update to 15.04
[00:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[00:26] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: update from what to what
[00:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> saucy to verdt
[00:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> but im think thats not possible
[00:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> im at saucy
[00:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> i want to be at the latest lts
[00:27] <genewitch> is that 14.04?
[00:27] <Remoboth> Final issue... I have a game called "Criticalmass" listed in my start menu list that I thought I Deleted...  I have a game called "Criticalmass" listed in my start menu list that I thought I Deleted... THe problem is that no matter how many times I try to delete the icon it pops up again in " /home/USERNAME/.local/share/applications "
[00:29] <Remoboth> What can I do to finally delete this fucking application?
[00:29] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: in a terminal cat /etc/*release*
[00:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> yeah im at 13.10
[00:29] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: follow that guide and reboot
[00:30] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: that will put you on latest LTS. then just do it again. that will be 14.10. then reboot. then do it again, that will be 15.04.
[00:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok.
[00:30] <adam__> Remoboth, this won't fix the root cause, but you might be able to get rid of the menu entry by chmod 0 /the/file  instead of rm
[00:31] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: you may need to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades to change "Prompt=" to  normal
[00:31] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: but perhaps it already =normal
[00:32] <Remoboth> adam__ -  Damn. DIdn't work.
[00:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> umm how?
[00:32] <nicekiwi__> ANyone know how to add %postinstall script files to the Ubuntu Server ISO?
[00:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> genewitch, ?
[00:32] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: gksudo gedit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[00:32] <adam__> Remoboth, after chmodding it, you'll want to restart the DM. something like  sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[00:32] <genewitch> the last line says "Prompt=normal"?
[00:32] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: ^
[00:32] <adam__> Remoboth, replace lightdm with whatever you're using
[00:33] <adam__> Remoboth, it'll close everything, so save any work you have going
[00:34] <Jakethepython> hello room
[00:34] <genewitch> do LTS upgrade kernels as often? that's my only complaint about ubuntu, really, recompiling all my userspace drivers :-(
[00:34] <genewitch> kernel drivers, userspace, whatever.
[00:36] <adam__> genewitch, those are supposed to resolve themselves, really. as in they should auto-rebuild on each kernel upgrade. external/binary drivers tend to mess with it, but there's a solution for that somewhere. a weekend project for you, perhaps
[00:36] <adam__> i use intel stuff on my ubuntu's, but my arch has nvidia which auto-rebuilds on kernel upgrades
[00:37] <genewitch> adam__: virtualbox drivers don't :-/ at least i always have to do it by hand
[00:37] <adam__> ah yeah i do run into that every damn time  haha
[00:37] <Anonomous> hey guys can anyone tell me how to edit the grub 2 boot screen. ubuntu is at the top followed by a mem test then the win 32 option. id like to have win 32,ubuntu then the mem test listed in that otrder. what file do iedit to do this ?
[00:37] <adam__> i wonder about a post-apt-get hook
[00:37] <shingshang> is there any particular reason why "Preparing to Install Ubuntu" part of the installation takes a long time?
[00:38] <genewitch> Anonomous: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:38] <nicekiwi__> Jakethepython, yo :)
[00:38] <shingshang> I pressed continue and it's still showing the wait mouse cursor
[00:38] <genewitch> Anonomous: be careful make a backup
[00:38] <SaviorX> guys how to update gnome to 3.18 in ubuntu 15.04
[00:38] <SaviorX> staging repository updates it to 3.16
[00:38] <adam__> shingshang, it's loading a lot of files, and if your box has poor i/o performance it can take awhile
[00:39] <genewitch> poor is relative, usually it's the CDROM fault
[00:39] <shingshang> adam__: how long is a while though? It's a brand new laptop I just got a few days ago
[00:39] <shingshang> 14.04 installed fine a few days ago, and now trying 15.04, it's stuck here
[00:39] <genewitch> shingshang: what are you installing from
[00:39] <shingshang> USB
[00:39] <genewitch> probably USB is slow
[00:39] <Jakethepython> i am trying to set up a Domain server on Ubuntu what is the best method of doing this...i want my server to serve 2 purposes. 1 is to have users that work with windows. 2) have storage for some other stuff
[00:39] <shingshang> what time frame are we talking about? It's been 2-3 minutes
[00:40] <zakedodead> is there a way other than settings->keyboard to edit keyboard combinations?
[00:40] <genewitch> shingshang: updating from 14.10 to 15.04 took ~4 hours on my machine
[00:40] <zakedodead> ctrl+space minimizes windows and its annoying in games
[00:40] <shingshang> genewitch: this is just one page of the installer though
[00:40] <shingshang> and it's not even into the partition page yet
[00:40] <genewitch> shingshang: i'd say 15 minutes
[00:40] <YaMoonSun> I had to apply a patch to my wireless driver to get it working because the version provided by the manufacturer's site isn't supported past kernel 2.x; I had it running on 3.13, but after my system upgraded to 3.16 I can't use it. Can I downgrade my kernel?
[00:40] <genewitch> is the USB drive blinking, shingshang?
[00:41] <shingshang> there's no lights on the USB
[00:41] <genewitch> YaMoonSun: if it's still installed you can usually see the old kernel in grub
[00:42] <YaMoonSun> advanced ubuntu options?
[00:43] <genewitch> YaMoonSun: like when the computer boots, the grub menu shows all the kernel versions currently installed
[00:43] <genewitch> i'm looking at my grub.cfg right now
[00:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> here we go
[00:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:45] <genewitch> Anonomous: actually you're supposed to edit stuff in /etc, but i don't know what files, looks like /etc/grub.d and /etc/default/grub
[00:45] <YaMoonSun> Not to my knowledge, but I'll check it out here in a sec
[00:46] <Waldeinsamkeit> hell yueah!!
[00:46] <Waldeinsamkeit> frick
[00:46] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: wat
[00:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[00:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> nop
[00:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> nvm
[00:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> why can't i upgrade to 14.04?
[00:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> UGH!
[00:47] <Pokjiuhgtrcd> Is secureboot available on Ubuntu now?
[00:48] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: you need the do-release-upgrade thing
[00:48] <Waldeinsamkeit> how?
[00:48] <Waldeinsamkeit> please how?
[00:48] <adam__> Waldeinsamkeit, we copied your home directory so you could do a fresh installation instead of upgrading. upgrading will be a major pain, and you'll get done a lot quicker by fresh installing
[00:49] <adam__> you got your home directory copied over to a new drive now, yes?
[00:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[00:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> ohh ok.
[00:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[00:49] <adam__> so now unplug the drive with the copy (just to be sure the installation leaves it alone) and do a fresh installation
[00:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> umm
[00:50] <adam__> then we can plug the drive back in and copy /home/ back over to the new installation
[00:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> best way to do a fresh instal>
[00:50] <adam__> and you wont have to re-download all the steam stuff
[00:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[00:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> my copy speed is ten times faster then my dl speed
[00:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> what do i download?
[00:50] <adam__> the image/iso of the version you want to upgrade to would be best
[00:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[00:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats the latest version of ubonto i can install
[00:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> with out more bugs then now?
[00:51] <genewitch> 15.04
[00:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> ohh
[00:51] <genewitch> 14.04 is lts
[00:51] <adam__> if you don't upgrade often due to a slow connection, i'd recommend going with an LTS
[00:52] <Anonomous> genewitch: thx
[00:52] <Waldeinsamkeit> how to know if 32 bit or 54 bit
[00:52] <Waldeinsamkeit> i can torront things quite fast
[00:52] <adam__> and when you do the fresh installation, be sure that /home/  is on it's own partition. then next time you won't need a second drive. you can just plug the fresh installation into the existing /home/ partition
[00:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> can i leave my steam files on that harddrive?
[00:53] <adam__> Waldeinsamkeit, go with 32 if you aren't sure; it's compatible with both
[00:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> well i have a very new mother board and cpu
[00:53] <adam__> Waldeinsamkeit, you can if you'd like. you can run linux on one drive, and your /home/ partition on another
[00:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> im sure theres a way to check
[00:53] <adam__> you'll get a bit better performance that way too
[00:54] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: 99% sure you want 64 bit
[00:54] <adam__> Waldeinsamkeit,  uname -a
[00:54] <genewitch> you can check with that tho
[00:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> same
[00:54] <genewitch> you only need 32 bit these days for specific reasons (like 512MB ram instances or whatever)
[00:54] <genewitch> or old software
[00:55] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhhh
[00:55] <Waldeinsamkeit> that says im 32
[00:55] <adam__> heh  well perhaps y'all, but i like these old machines i have laying around. i kind of forget where the rest of the world is
[00:55] <genewitch> it'll say X86 or X86_64
[00:55] <adam__> the output should be one line, just paste it here
[00:55] <Waldeinsamkeit> Linux sysop-Satellite-A215 3.11.0-18-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 18 21:13:28 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[00:55] <genewitch> i'm more curious what the cpuinfo says now haha
[00:56] <adam__> i agree
[00:56] <Waldeinsamkeit> this os is from a different computer
[00:56] <Waldeinsamkeit> hence the kernal issues
[00:56] <Waldeinsamkeit> its from a 10 year old computer
[00:56] <Waldeinsamkeit> i just have files on it i need
[00:56] <adam__> yeah that one would be 32bit
[00:56] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[00:57] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i check what i should be running based on my hardware
[00:57] <Waldeinsamkeit> i know what im currently running
[00:57] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: can you pastebin the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo
 how to know if 32 bit or 54 bit    coulda fooled me
[00:57] <genewitch> do like cat /proc/cpuinfo >cpudata.txt && gedit cpuinfo.txt
[00:57] <Anonomous> guys how do i find /edit ?
[00:57] <genewitch> Anonomous: wat
[00:58] <adam__> Anonomous, are you from DOS?
[00:58] <Waldeinsamkeit> model name	: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU G1840 @ 2.80GHz
[00:58] <Anonomous> yea :(
[00:58] <Waldeinsamkeit> which line do you need to know
[00:58] <adam__> edit will be a different command. try  nano   or   pico
[00:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes its 64 bit
[00:59] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: that's a 64 bits, it's haswell
[00:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes its haswell
[00:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> its the cheapest haswell cpu i could find
[00:59] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: haswell is 64bits
[00:59] <cliff1245> I need to share 60GB of data with a number of remote people and would like to set up some way for them to download it from an ubuntu server that I have installed in a VM sitting in my DMZ.  Does anyone have any suggestions on which application to use to serve the files?  I was thinking I could create a website or use ftp. I've never done either and was trying to pick the least difficult to install and issue some sort of authentication. I do not w
[01:00] <Waldeinsamkeit> ftp
[01:00] <genewitch> cliff1245: ftp is fine, but what don't you want?
[01:01] <Amm0n> ftp must die, use sftp :P
[01:01] <genewitch> sftp is crap for large files
[01:01] <genewitch> that's like saying IRC is crap switch to FB chat
[01:01] <Waldeinsamkeit> ubuntu-15.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent    23-Apr-2015 10:54   24K  Server install image for 64-bit PC (AMD64) computers (BitTorrent download)
[01:01] <Waldeinsamkeit> so is that the 64 bit one i need?
[01:01] <Waldeinsamkeit> im not amd im intel...
[01:01] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: no not server, you want desktop
[01:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent   23-Apr-2015 10:50   43K  Desktop image for 64-bit PC (AMD64) computers (BitTorrent download)
[01:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> yess lol
[01:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> thanks
[01:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> tahts the one?
[01:02] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: intel's X64 is something else, X86_64 is called amd64, it's just a naming convention
[01:02] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: that's what i am running
[01:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[01:02] <genewitch> so on intel i7 :-D
[01:02] <Anonomous> guys how do i find /edit ?
[01:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> ohh
[01:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> its only 1.15 gb
[01:02] <genewitch> Anonomous: what are you trying to edit
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> this will not take that long
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> you guys should all seed it ;P
[01:03] <Anonomous> umm grub file !
[01:03] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: it's got webseeds
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> well
[01:03] <zykotick9> Amm0n: "ftp must die" <- so true
[01:03] <genewitch> adam__: is there a bot entry for rearranging grub
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> im going to go play some tf2
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> or portal
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> or something
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> with my friends
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> ill be back when this is downloaded and instaled
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> do i need a flashdrive?
[01:03] <genewitch> SEE YOU IN FIVE HOURS
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have no cd drive
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> naw it should only take like one hour
[01:04] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: then yes, you need a flash drive
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> at most
[01:04] <cliff1245> Thanks!  Do you think I should install vsftp?
[01:04] <genewitch> and unetbootin
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> can i use a harddrive?
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have many harddrives
[01:04] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: not really
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> can i just mount it to a thrid harddrive?
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> ohh ok.
[01:04] <Anonomous> genewitch
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> flashdrive it is
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> ill hunt one down
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> cya
[01:04] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: unetbootin
[01:05] <Thesaurus> I'm trying to mount the data part of a CD-ROM that is identified as an audio disc.  I've tried on a windows PC and a Mac and every system I've tried can only see the CD-Audio part
[01:05] <Thesaurus> I've tried to mount as iso9660 as well http://pastebin.centos.org/28946/raw/
[01:05] <genewitch> Anonomous: i'm not really having enough time to walk through a grub edit with you i am hoping that there's a FAQ or help page for it
[01:05] <zykotick9> unetbootin <- know to cause issues with hybrid isos (like ubuntu's), use with care...
[01:05] <genewitch> zykotick9: when did unetbootin stop working for ubuntu?
[01:05] <cliff1245> Has anyone used vsftp?
[01:05] <Anonomous> i just want to knnow were to find edit folder
[01:05] <Pokjiuhgtrcd> (mute)
[01:05] <zykotick9> genewitch: oh it works... sometimes...
[01:05] <genewitch> because it has a special entry for ubuntu to have non-volatile storage even
[01:06] <genewitch> Anonomous: there's no edit folder
[01:06] <Anonomous> well  the edit dir
[01:06] <zykotick9> genewitch: i actually had one case where unetbootin saved me!  and default ubuntu/debian iso's failed - but that was a very particular case...  <- but still, i'd suggest avoiding unetbootin where possible
[01:06] <genewitch> zykotick9: dd?
[01:07] <hwt62vd> Anonomous: https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[01:07] <zykotick9> genewitch: i like cp/cat better, but dd works...
[01:07] <genewitch> i always "burn" flash drives on windows where it works fine
[01:07] <genewitch> i know the linux version has some issues
[01:07] <genewitch> especially when trying to boot on older hardware
[01:07] <Bashing-om> Anonomous: ?? There is no edit folder in a default install of 'buntus . What is your goal here ?
[01:07] <cliff1245> Also, if I left the server listening to the public, how vulnerable would I be to having an attacker get into the server if I used ftp??
[01:08] <genewitch> cliff1245: 100%
[01:08] <Anonomous> hey guys can anyone tell me how to edit the grub 2 boot screen. ubuntu is at the top followed by a mem test then the win 32 option. id like to have win 32,ubuntu then the mem test listed in that otrder. what file do iedit to do this ?
[01:09] <genewitch> cliff1245: this is on the DMZ? why do you care if someone gets in?
[01:09] <zykotick9> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[01:09] <Anonomous> that is my goal
[01:09] <Anonomous> gut i got th emanual now. seems fairly short and not too coplicated. some ligt reading for bed
[01:09] <cliff1245> I don't want the data being disseminated.
[01:10] <genewitch> cliff1245: sneakernet
[01:10] <cliff1245> not possible.
[01:10] <genewitch> cliff1245: then you need to restrict by IP
[01:11] <adam__> oh man we got a storm brewing over here. may get booted offline. i'm catching up on old mesg now
[01:11] <cliff1245> It's unknown. I was recommended to try sftp?
[01:11] <genewitch> cliff1245: i mean you can write a bash script that is a CGI for like lighttpd or something, you give out a URL, that adds a firewall rule to the DMZ ftpd server. but really
[01:11] <genewitch> cliff1245: you want to restrict by IP
[01:11] <Bashing-om> Anonomous: Then you want to edit the "/etc/default/grub' file . After viewing " /boot/grub/grub.cfg' and counting the menu enties there.
[01:11] <genewitch> you can do that manually. or automate it
[01:11] <Anonomous> Bashing-om: i want to edit the boot screen of grub
[01:12] <Bashing-om> !grub | ano
[01:12] <genewitch> Bashing-om: thank you sir
[01:12] <genewitch> Anonomous: you're probably using grub2
[01:12] <Anonomous> genewitch: yeup
[01:12] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: actually, i think customizing the menu requires editing /etc/grub.d/ files...
[01:13] <zykotick9> ^ recalls it being a big PITA...
[01:13] <genewitch> it's just re-arranging it. really, what he wants is to change the default entry
[01:13] <Anonomous> ahh its not /edit its /etc
[01:13] <genewitch> he wants windows to be the default entry
[01:14] <zykotick9> genewitch: oh, just setting one entry as default is easy, and in Bashing-om's suggested /etc/grub/grub.cfg
[01:14] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Most of the time .. but for the menu entry one can set it in "GRUB_DEFAULT=0 ' line of /etc/default/grub . Then as always run 'sudo update-grub' for the change to propagate.
[01:15] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: ya, sorry.  see above ;)
[01:15] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: :) . I be slow !
[01:15] <genewitch> Anonomous: see what Bashing-om said, you want to set windows to default
[01:16] <genewitch> okay i've paid my penance for asking a dumb question now (hrr reboot to fix)
[01:16] <genewitch> have a good one, fellas.
[01:17] <Jakethepython> I am having trouble installing ubuntu server on my server..it gets to install grub and has a fatal error
[01:18] <adam__> genewitch, i know linux, but this whole irc thing is sort of new to me. i hadn't known of those bots until tonight
[01:18] <drocsid>  when I remove a package file, I notice that it leaves behind some of the configuration. What if I want to completly remove the package and config files. I'm asking because I tried removing them manually, but now when I reinstall the packate, dpkg is not installing the init scripts included with the package.
[01:19] <medfly> help I want to manually configure my connection and ubuntu is overriding my shit what do I need to kill for it to work
[01:19] <medfly> I got a goat ready :D
[01:19] <hwt62vd> drocsid: try purge rather than remove, however you generally do not need to reinstall.
[01:21] <drocsid> hwt62vd: I will try that, thanks
[01:21] <adam__> medfly, check the files in /etc/network/
[01:22] <medfly> nvm I stopped the network-manager service I think it works
[01:22] <zykotick9> drocsid: actually, lesson is "don't delete stuff manually!", but here is #debian's "confmiss" factoid http://paste.ubuntu.com/11753982/
[01:22] <Bashing-om> drocsid: "remove' will not remove config files by design, 'purge' does that - by design .
[01:22] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: BUT, manually removing is something else!
[01:23] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Yeah ! Now ya gone and made the package manager very UNhappy .
[01:23] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: exactly!
[01:25] <wolftune> hey everyone, I have some simple questions: I want to use *only* my new 250GB SSD, but my computer *keeps* using its little 25GB built-in SSD as /
[01:25]  * zykotick9 also notes, ".. apt-get purge foo" doesn't touch the config files in ~
[01:25] <wolftune> so, how do I check if my new SSD has boot set correctly?
[01:26] <god_phantom> wolftune: when you install, are you selecting the correct SSD?
[01:26] <wolftune> god_phantom: this is actually a clone situation, I didn't reinstall
[01:26] <wolftune> god_phantom: I know that would be cleanest, but I'm really close to having everything working already
[01:26] <god_phantom> i understand
[01:27] <wolftune> it's all cloned, the system works, I made symlinks so everything functions
[01:27] <Bashing-om> wolftune: The file system table (fstab). ' cat /etc/fstab ' and see what file systems are booted .
[01:27] <wolftune> but I want to stop using the internal SSD (mainly because in this process, I learned that it is the source of a connection problem in the hardware)
[01:27] <zykotick9> wolftune: grub may also be an issue...
[01:28] <wolftune> zykotick9: yes
[01:28] <wolftune> Bashing-om: I've been editing fstab, problem is: I have a / set of files on the little SSD and a / set cloned to the larger SSD, only I changed fstab on each trying to get this working
[01:28] <wolftune> so, there are three things that *should* be all I need to touch now: boot, grub, fstab
[01:28] <god_phantom> yeah was gonna say grub.conf
[01:29] <wolftune> I figured I'd start at the beginning… doesn't the new drive need a /boot ? Can I check if it does? Or am I confused?
[01:29] <adam__> wolftune,  parted -l
[01:30] <wolftune> adam__: I get nothing from that
[01:31] <Bashing-om> wolftune: "sudo fdisk -lu ; df -h ; sudo blkid " then inspect '/etc/fstab' and ' /boot/grub/grub.cfg' that they all agree with the UUIDs you want to use .
[01:31] <Loshki_> wolftune: depending on your version, there are 3 places you need to look: Grub config files, /etc/fstab, and the master boot record. Be sure to check uuids if they're in use. And run the bootinfoscript (http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/).
[01:31] <mbeacom> Good evening all! Would anyone happen to know why, after resizing my ubuntu server 14.04.2 ext4 partition from 50 GB to 100 GB using fdisk and then resize2fs to expand the FS... The FS states it is expanded, but the free space doesn't reflect the change.
[01:31] <wolftune> Bashing-om: note: with the person who was helping me, I decided to not bother partitioning, so I went with the default msdos — so I have no UUIDs
[01:31] <rypervenche> mbeacom: Did you restart during the process and was it your root file system?
[01:32] <wolftune> that's my understanding
[01:32] <wolftune> Loshki_: see my comment just now: I ended up using msdos, so I don't think that does UUID…
[01:32] <mbeacom> rypervenche: It was indeed my root file system.  I rebooted after the initial fdisk resize, after the reboot, I did a resize2fs, it expanded, rebooted, still 50 G :D
[01:32] <Loshki_> wolftune: Nevertheless, if you pastebin the output of bootinfoscript it should tell us tons.
[01:32] <wolftune> Loshki_: okay
[01:33] <Loshki_> mbeacom: some special reason you didn't use gparted?
[01:33] <TJ-> Loshki_: On a server!?
[01:34] <mbeacom> Loshki_: I am running the server on rackspace with no GUI.
[01:34] <medfly> well I have no idea if it works but it hasn't ended yet
[01:34] <medfly> lol
[01:34] <wolftune> Loshki_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11754033/
[01:34] <medfly> wrong channel sorry
[01:35] <mbeacom> Resizing the filesystem on /dev/xvdb1 to 26214144 (4k) blocks. The filesystem on /dev/xvdb1 is now 26214144 blocks long.
[01:35] <Anonomous> guys how do i access /etc dir ?
[01:35] <TJ-> mbeacom: what does dumpe2fs report?
[01:35] <YaMoonSun> When I used advanced ubuntu options from grub, my mouse and keyboard won't work, and the resolution isn't full screen anymore. With or without recovery mode.
[01:35] <YaMoonSun> I downgraded the kernel from within ubuntu once, but I forget the command.
[01:35] <wolftune> Loshki_: for reference, the sdb is the little drive I want to ignore, the main drive is sda
[01:36] <TJ-> mbeacom: Are you resizing it on the Xen host or in the guest?
[01:37] <wolftune> the reason I made /mount is so that I would get the main drive at all given that it keeps booting with sdb
[01:37] <mbeacom>  TJ-: I am resizing the volume in the guest. I have two volumes attached to the guest.  The original 50 G SDD volume and a cloned 100G volume that has been extended.
[01:38] <hplc> howto limit a process max usage of cpu and / or memory?
[01:38] <wolftune> the commented out UUIDs in the fstab is from my previous set up
[01:38] <TJ-> mbeacom: check what dumpe2fs reports on the file-system
[01:38] <mbeacom> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/AG9ajgDT
[01:39] <Bashing-om> wolftune: You will allways have UUIDs . If I am to assist I will want to see what we are working with . pastebin ' sudo fdisk -lu ; df-h ; sudo blkid ; cat /etc/fstab ' .
[01:39] <TJ-> mbeacom: "Free blocks:              13479619"
[01:39] <xyzzy__> Gnome 3 is the shiz. Just thought I'd put that out there.
[01:39] <medfly> I thought people hate it and think it's unpolished and isn't meant to be used by humans
[01:40] <medfly> editor wars
[01:40] <medfly> i use xmonad
[01:40] <mbeacom> TJ-: Is there a reason this wouldn't be reflected in df -h ?
[01:40] <xyzzy__> Openbox is fun too
[01:40] <medfly> you know a WM is good when you have to edit the config before your first launch to use it
[01:40] <wolftune> Bashing-om: okay, I guess I misunderstood the issues when I was choosing the partition initial set up, anyway, here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11754059/
[01:41] <mbeacom> TJ-: df -h is displaying 50G 47G 0 100% /
[01:41] <wolftune> Bashing-om: as I posted otherwise just now, the commented out stuff relates to my previous set up with an old drive (with multiple partitions)
[01:41] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Look'n .. be advised I have ISP issues presently .. loosing connection . I will do what I can .
[01:41] <wolftune> Bashing-om: okay, thanks
[01:42] <TJ-> mbeacom: Are you sure the volume you think is mounted as / is that one? If you cloned them the UUIDs will be the same
[01:42] <medfly> xyzzy__: my boyfriend has some weird hate for Gnome 3 that I have yet to understand. that would require listening to him tak about it.
[01:42] <mbeacom> TJ-: The mounted file system is /dev/xvdb1 at /.  /dev/xvda1 was my original / device.
[01:43] <TJ-> mbeacom: is the fstab using device nodes not UUIDs then? can you show me "cat /proc/mounts" ?
[01:44] <mbeacom> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/cT1L6rzM
[01:44] <mbeacom> TJ-: fstab is indeed using device nodes and not UUIDs.
[01:44] <mablae> just run it
[01:44] <Techspectre> Is there a way to do a fresh installation without wiping GRUB?
[01:44] <TJ-> mbeacom: the mount point for / is a UUID: check its symlink device: "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/02d3bbc2-d713-4a02-a1c2-7f83f61299a2"
[01:45] <mablae> * wrong tab, sorry
[01:45] <mbeacom> TJ-: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Jun 22 01:25 /dev/disk/by-uuid/02d3bbc2-d713-4a02-a1c2-7f83f61299a2 -> ../../xvdb1
[01:46] <wolftune> Bashing-om: Loshki_: for reference, when I boot up, I see Grub menu and it lets me choose sda1 as the option, but even so, when I end up running it, sdb is where root is… :P
[01:46] <TJ-> mbeacom: and now show me "dumpe2fs /dev/xvda1 | grep UUID"
[01:46] <Jakethepython>  i am getting unable to install GRUB /dev/****
[01:46] <mbeacom> TJ-: Oh boy. hah...  Filesystem UUID:          02d3bbc2-d713-4a02-a1c2-7f83f61299a2
[01:47] <TJ-> mbeacom: As I said, you've cloned the file-systems so they have the same UUID ... so at boot-time /dev/xvda1 is probably discovered first and used as / but then xvdb1 is found and replaces the symlink
[01:47] <Jakethepython> sorry grub-install /dev/126
[01:48] <TJ-> mbeacom: use "tune2fs -U random /dev/xda1" to change that UUID and then reboot
[01:49] <Loshki_> wolftune: sdb1's etc/fstab looks bad. It should mount to / ?
[01:49] <Loshki_> wolftune: line 808 in your paste.
[01:49] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Let's get a usable fstab set up to use that 250 gig hard drive . Is that your desire ? As the SSD will be much faster to house the operating system . But the SSD is partitioned GPT and we need another tool to look at it .
[01:50] <wolftune> Bashing-om: both are SSDs, one is a built-in tiny thing and it is having *connection* problems where the computer sometimes doesn't recognize it so everything crashes. tl;dr: yes, I want to use only the 250GB drive
[01:50] <Loshki_> TJ-: it never occurred to me that there wouldn't be room on a server these days for X11 client libraries. That said, gparted is probably the only gui worth it's weight.
[01:50] <mbeacom> TJ-: Thank you very much!  Now I just need to figure out why xvda1 is still being mounted automatically when xvdb1 is set in /etc/fstab !
[01:51] <wolftune> Loshki_: there's no way to have my system working if I have the fstab on sdb mount sda to / — what happened when I tried that was that sdb was *still* / but then I had no /home!
[01:51] <wolftune> Loshki_: the little sdb has only root but no /home /opt or /tmp
[01:51] <Bashing-om> wolftune: K, What is happening is that grub is not configured to boot the correct /boot directory / We get fstab usable and I do suggest we (RE-)install grub from a liveDVD .
[01:51] <TJ-> mbeacom: has the grub boot line been updated? If GRUB is specifying the root= using the UUID then it's understandable
[01:51] <wolftune> Loshki_: so, to get /home /opt and /tmp, I had to link to those mounted on sda
[01:52] <hplc> howto limit a process max usage of cpu and / or memory?
[01:52] <wolftune> Bashing-om: yeah, I can reinstall grub, I agree that the issue is that grub is not correctly using sda for /boot — it goes to sdb no matter what I do
[01:52] <TJ-> Loshki_: Using a GUI on a *nix server for administration is a great way to get fired, as well as not being taken seriously
[01:53] <Loshki_> TJ-: mere prejudice. It's not like you're running k3b or the gimp.
[01:53] <TJ-> Loshki_: not at all. The more libraries and tools installed the greater the attack surface for malicious software, and the Xorg stack is large
[01:54] <mbeacom> TJ-: Very odd...  `/dev/xvdb1      /               ext4    errors=remount-ro,noatime,barrier=0 0       1` is the only entry in /etc/fstab
[01:54] <wolftune> Loshki_: Bashing-om: here's the fstab already on sda, the drive I *want* to be using: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11754120/
[01:54] <Loshki_> wolftune: dinner time. Will look forward to reading how it turns out...
[01:54] <TJ-> mbeacon but update-grub will translate that into a UUID ... look in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[01:55] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Checking the new fstab . gimme a bit .
[01:58] <Bashing-om> wolftune: In small steps so you understand . the entry " 82174999-4881-4475-8d12-25652dc0db33" tells the system to boot -> /dev/sdb1: UUID="82174999-4881-4475-8d12-25652dc0db33" . OK, so we change that entry to point to sda1's UUID .. with me ?
[01:58] <wolftune> Bashing-om: sure
[01:59] <grinchier> you guys doing cryptab?  feel free to ignore me cause i came in late
[01:59] <wolftune> Bashing-om: but I need to figure out sda1's UUID right?
[02:00] <adam__> wolftune, use blkid for that
[02:00] <adam__> sudo, if needed
[02:00] <grinchier> ^
[02:01] <Squarism> If i want to advance my ubuntu desktop user - what to do
[02:01] <Squarism> user skill
[02:01] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Change " / was on /dev/sdb1 during installation ' to " / is on /dev/sda1 as of 21jun15 and replace the UUID 82174999-4881-4475-8d12-25652dc0db33 on the next line with 16500500-eff4-408e-846b-52717c571b4d . Make sure you UNcommnet this line. Next we do the swap partition assignment.
[02:03] <wolftune> Bashing-om: I made that change (well I left the old lines commented, but I made the active line into what you said)
[02:03] <wolftune> Bashing-om: ready to do the swap assignment then
[02:03] <wolftune> Bashing-om: all this is on the fstab that lives on sda1 of course
[02:04] <mbeacom> TJ-: Usage of /:   47.7% of 98.30GB :D  Thanks!
[02:04] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Documentation for any edit is always important - at some later time. I am preparing the next edit for swap. stand by.
[02:04] <TJ-> mbeacom: easy when you've seen it before :)
[02:04] <Squarism> im a programmer.. so im sorta fluent in bash but i do lack skills in OS workings. Really need to get to the next level with ubuntu desktop (and server).. become more of a power user so to speak
[02:05] <wolftune> Bashing-om: agreed re: docs, I did make a line explaining the situation and the date
[02:05] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[02:05] <adam__> SupaYoshi, cli is your friend
[02:05] <Waldeinsamkeit> so i got the iso downloaded
[02:05] <Waldeinsamkeit> and my fiels backed up
[02:05] <Waldeinsamkeit> but i have no flash driv3e
[02:05] <Waldeinsamkeit> anywhere in the house
[02:05] <adam__> oh tab fail.  Squarism cli is your friend
[02:05] <Waldeinsamkeit> nor do i have a cd drive in my computer
[02:06] <Waldeinsamkeit> soooo
[02:06] <Waldeinsamkeit> any ideas?
[02:06] <Squarism> adam__, CLI = bash right?
[02:06] <adam__> Squarism, cli is 'command line interface'
[02:06] <adam__> learn how to get fancy with it, and then put those commands into a bash script for awesomeness
[02:07] <Bashing-om> wolftune: change " # swap was on /dev/sda9 " to " # swap is on /dev/sda2 as of 21jun15"  and the next line change " 438d66a9-3409-4433-b18a-92b6d483243b ' to " ca9f7c69-96e7-4501-81bc-2b7f7b87e49b " UNcomment this line.
[02:07] <Squarism> adam__, im down with bash / terminal / cli... i think i should learn run levels / services / directory layouts / automated reinstall / api's
[02:08] <Waldeinsamkeit> please guys help me install ubontu to my computer
[02:08] <Waldeinsamkeit> i backed up my home
[02:08] <Waldeinsamkeit> and downlaoded the iso
[02:08] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have no flash drive or cd drive htough
[02:08] <Waldeinsamkeit> so how do i do this?>
[02:08] <adam__> Waldeinsamkeit, without usb or cdrom, options are minimal. give us time to find something, if we can at all
[02:08] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok.
[02:09] <hwt62vd> Waldeinsamkeit: Be careful not to fill the channel with your issue, try to consolidate the comments.
[02:09] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok sorry
[02:09] <hwt62vd> we've al ben there ;)
[02:09] <adam__> Squarism, you'll learn quickest by messing up numerous installations haha    perhaps virtual machines can help ease the pain of reinstalling all the time as you go
[02:10] <grinchier> i don't know if you guys are doing cryptswap,  but the way i got it working,  was just suding /dev/sdx  instead of uuid in crypttab
[02:10] <grinchier> you can't hibernate properly without doing the password prompt setup though
[02:10] <Squarism> adam__, haha.. exactly what i want to avoid.. i dont dare reinstall
[02:10] <Loshki_> Waldeinsamkeit: if you already have grub, newer versions will boot from an on-disk iso. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[02:10] <grinchier> *adding
[02:11] <Squarism> adam__, yep.. definently should look into vagrant and such
[02:11] <wolftune> Bashing-om: okay done, thanks
[02:12] <wolftune> Bashing-om: So, that seems like a good fstab file now
[02:13] <Guest70817> hi
[02:13] <wolftune> Bashing-om: should I just try rebooting or should I now do something with grub (maybe on a live USB boot)?
[02:13] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Next Advise please to the best of your knowlege that your /home resides within the install that is presently 'sda1' .
[02:14] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok guys
[02:14] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have three harddrives in my comp
[02:14] <Waldeinsamkeit> one which is not being used at all
[02:14] <Waldeinsamkeit> could i just wipe that or something
[02:14] <Waldeinsamkeit> and mount the iso there and boot from it?
[02:15] <Bashing-om> wolftune: ^^ If my last is true that /home is on sda1 install then remove all the symlinks you have made . As we will re-install grub . and no other links will be required . IF /home is also included on 'sda1' .
[02:15] <wolftune> Bashing-om: yes, /home is on sda1
[02:15] <wolftune> Bashing-om: the symlinks are *only* on sdb2 though, so can't I just leave them alone?
[02:16] <wolftune> Bashing-om: to clarify, the fstab that lives on sdb2 says to mount sda1 to /mount and the symlinks are all linking /home to /mount/home etc.
[02:17] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Then re,move the symlinks to everything. we will not need them . Then we re-install grub from a liveDVD . A good chance will be good 'nuff, else we step up to a chroot/purg/install routine .// right now sdb is not in the picture . Not even to be considered .
[02:17] <wolftune> Bashing-om: er I meant sdb1
[02:18] <wolftune> Bashing-om: okay, I'm just hesitant because everything is working right now, except being tied to the wonky little drive…
[02:18] <wolftune> Bashing-om: okay, I will remove the symlinks
[02:18] <Bashing-om> wolftune: To be safe and sure, show me the current '/e/tc/fstab' file that is on sda1 .
[02:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[02:18] <wolftune> Bashing-om: hmm, but they are being used right now… I guess I should remove after rebooting with USB stick?
[02:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> so i added one more hd to my computer
[02:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> seems its partinted into two seperate 10 gb partions
[02:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> and a 219 gb partion
[02:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> could i set that 300 gb hard drive up to boot my iso off of?
[02:20] <wolftune> Bashing-om: current fstab on sda1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11754211/
[02:21] <wolftune> Bashing-om: when you say ok, I'll reboot with USB
[02:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> hello?
[02:21] <Bashing-om> wolftune: checking . standby.
[02:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> i need something to manage partitions
[02:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> and to wipe my harddrive with
[02:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> and then something to mount my iso to it
[02:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> soo i can boot from it
[02:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> seems like somehow i can make a spare hard drive work as a flashdrive
[02:23] <daeo> I am trying to find some help with upgrading/updating firmware on an udoo which run udoobuntu.  I know this is not the same distro, but was wondering in general, how does one upgrade firmware for sata controllers?
[02:24] <Bashing-om> wolftune: HUH ?? I see no changes ! Did you not save the file when you made the directed changes ???
[02:25] <wolftune> Bashing-om: all the lines in the top are the same, but they are all commented. The active lines are added at the bottom
[02:26] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Never themind .. I see thwem I see them .. I just got dis-cumbulated. back to checking . sorry .
[02:26] <wolftune> 'sokay, sorry for my quirks in not following your instructions 100%
[02:27] <Deihmos> is there a way to change the colors of window icon from brown?
[02:28] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Is OK, file looks good . It is your system we do it your way . OK, let's boot the liveUSB . Change the boot order in bios for the USB . Advise when ready for next .
[02:28] <Jakethepython> Hello Room, i am trying to set up a raid 1 system the setup is as follows HDD 1 System hdd 150GB HDD2,3 RAID 1 250GB space
[02:28] <wolftune> Bashing-om: will take some minutes to reboot, back soon
[02:29] <Bashing-om> wolftune: If my ISP holds up, I will be here .
[02:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> hey
[02:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i grow my partition with disks
[02:32] <hwt62vd> Waldeinsamkeit: you have to have the partitions unmounted, are they?
[02:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[02:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> i found some new hardrives
[02:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> now maby i can mount my iso to them and install new os
[02:32] <hwt62vd> Waldeinsamkeit: I use gparted so can't help with this app, just checking your close.
[02:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> im downloading gparted right now
[02:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> ubutuns built in partion manger sucks
[02:33] <hwt62vd> Waldeinsamkeit: You need to get a flash drive, or a disc reader, a flash with the live is your best tool always to have around.
[02:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhh
[02:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> no flashdrive here
[02:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> anywhere
[02:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> and its 9:34
[02:34] <hwt62vd> Waldeinsamkeit: Yes we all know that.
[02:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> and my mom is most certnuly not going to get one
[02:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> so im stuck
[02:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> with no flashdrives
[02:35] <hwt62vd> Waldeinsamkeit: Your stuck and exspecting us to help you. Your among many whom have come here in a similiar predicament, not much help generally.
[02:35] <hwt62vd> yo don't hand the doctor a pocket knife for surgery
[02:38] <Bashing-om> hwt62vd: OH contrare . How many times have I picked up a flat river rock to sharpen my pocket knife to cut out an embedded fish hook ?
[02:38] <hwt62vd> no idea
[02:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> hello
[02:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> i got gparted
[02:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i merge partiioons with it?
[02:39] <cfhowlett> Waldeinsamkeit, they have to be physically next to each other to merge, so you probably have to move things first
[02:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> what do you mean?
[02:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> in gparted i have fat32 unallocated and ext4
[02:39] <cfhowlett> Waldeinsamkeit, 1, 3, 2 must be 1, 2, 3
[02:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> i want to merge unalloc ated with ext4
[02:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> ohh ok
[02:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have 28.61 on ynallocated space
[02:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> all my hard drives have unallocated space
[02:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i get rid of it?
[02:41] <cfhowlett> Waldeinsamkeit, merge with your /home partition
[02:41] <hwt62vd> Waldeinsamkeit: small areas between partitions?
[02:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhh
[02:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> yeah
[02:41] <hwt62vd> bingo
[02:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> when i delted partitions
[02:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> i now have left overs
[02:41] <cfhowlett> Waldeinsamkeit, space between parts is normal
[02:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> i want to merge those into my main partition
[02:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> i had one of my hardives partion into three parts for whatever unknow reason
[02:42] <adam__> Waldeinsamkeit, i've always wanted to as well, and haven't foudn a way. i guess it's normal behavior, but the reason behind it baffles me
[02:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> now it has 28.61 gb of unallocated  unused space
[02:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> thats 30 gb of unused space...
[02:42] <adam__> that's... a lot of unallocated space. nvm what i just said
[02:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> yeah
[02:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> i know what your talking about
[02:42] <adam__> i always see like 1mb bits
[02:42] <adam__> ay
[02:42] <adam__> ya*
[02:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> this is not the same thing
[02:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> i had two huge partions
[02:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> and i delete one
[02:43] <adam__> sorry, i'm going back and forth in front of the computer and not
[02:43] <Waldeinsamkeit> now i have a left over one
[02:43] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i merge it back into my main one
[02:43] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: hi it's wolftune
[02:43] <adam__> you would actually resize your main one
[02:43] <adam__> gparted should be able to expand it
[02:43] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes to what?
[02:43] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: I'm on the USB boot now
[02:43] <adam__> gparted will have a dialog where you can drag-drop the partition size a bit
[02:44] <adam__> that should make it (  current size + unallocated size )
[02:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> i see i see
[02:44] <adam__> if you use it all
[02:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes yes very usefull
[02:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> wtf
[02:45] <Waldeinsamkeit> it takes two hours?
[02:45] <adam__> it can vary. what filesystem is that again?
[02:45] <adam__> like... ext4/3
[02:45] <Waldeinsamkeit> ext4
[02:46] <Waldeinsamkeit> 2 hours....
[02:46] <Waldeinsamkeit> i might as just go to bed...
[02:46] <adam__> i suppose it'll just take that long then. it does do some extra stuff, like a full filesystem check, then expand, fs check again, move files, ect
[02:46] <adam__> i'm not nerdy enough for those details, but yeah it takes what it takes
[02:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> well
[02:47] <adam__> the post-operation estimates can be way off, though
[02:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> cya guys
[02:47] <Bashing-om> ksx4system: K, get us a terminal . and in terminal let'sa check what is on sda1 . 1st ,ount that partition : ' sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ' then let's "look" ' ls -al /mnt/vmlinuz* ; ls -al /mnt/home/<your_user_name> ' . If those are positive we proceed .
[02:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> ill do this tommrow
[02:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> and ill get a flashdrive...
[02:52] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: I have vmlinuz
[02:52] <kxstudio> oh wait hmm
[02:53] <Bashing-om> ksx4system: K
[02:54] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: sidenote kxstudio != ksx4system
[02:54] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: ok, yea, all is present
[02:55] <leo__> hello?
[02:55] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Thak goodness, someone has my back ! .
[02:55] <leo__> someone say "hi" if you can hear me.
[02:56] <kxstudio> leo__: hi
[02:56] <leo__> first irc session :D
[02:56] <kxstudio> leo__: ever?
[02:56] <BuzzardBuzz> hi leo_ :)
[02:56] <leo__> since 90's :D
[02:56] <kxstudio> leo__: well, welcome
[02:57] <grinchier> leo__: leo!!
[02:57] <BuzzardBuzz> wow, you been gone for awhile, welcome back
[02:58] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: OK, let's install grub ' sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt /dev/sda ; sudo umount /mnt ' . Done here . reboot and set as 1st boot priority that 1st haed drive as priority number 1 . Please tell me you now boot ubuntu .
[02:58] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: for reference, there are zero systems connected that aren't Ubuntu, so there's nothing else that I could boot ;)
[02:59] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: okay restarting now
[03:00] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: :) . Put a smile on our face and tell me we boot that 1st hard drive .
[03:01] <BigJ> 14.10 is the latest stable version?
[03:01] <zykotick9> BigJ: i look at the date and think 15.04 should exist...
[03:02] <BigJ> how can you go from 14.10 to 15.04?
[03:02] <Bashing-om> BigJ: No, latest release is 15.04 .. latest LTS release is 14.04 .
[03:04] <Bashing-om> BigJ: System is fully updated, upgraded, All PPA are disabled, inclusive of proprietary drivers, and in software sources that "next release' is set .
[03:05] <zykotick9> is 15.05 the fist ubuntu with systemd?
[03:05] <zykotick9> s/15.05/15.04/
[03:06] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Yes indeed, Going to have to do some homework to catch up on systemd .
[03:06] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: cool, thanks.
[03:06]  * zykotick9 notes systemd is different... ;)
[03:07] <BigJ> Bashing-om: I was running 15.04 but I'm having a problem with waking on suspend and 14.10 is the latest version suppourted by the intel graphics installer which I am hoping will solve the problem if I install the driver
[03:09] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: no go :(
[03:09] <zykotick9> oh... is hibernate renabled by default in 15.04?  "systemctl hibernate" <- perhaps even without sudo?! might hibernate systems <warning!>
[03:10] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: what happens is, I end up just at the grub> prompt
[03:10] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: this happened earlier today and someone helping got me to do some things at the prompt which resulted in the situation I had (I could work, but sdb was / etc)
[03:11] <kxstudio> agh, they left, hope they come back!
[03:12] <oldboy1> hey all
[03:12] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: you're back :) did you get that last couple messages?
[03:13] <stiv2k> how do i delete orphaned entries in my applications menu?
[03:13] <stiv2k> i uninstalled wine, but i still have a 'wine' directory in my applications menu
[03:14] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: No I did not get them .. my ISP dropped me . Say again all after XX:05 time .
[03:14] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: what happens is, I end up just at the grub> prompt
[03:14] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: this happened earlier today and someone helping got me to do some things at the prompt which resulted in the situation I had (I could work, but sdb was / etc)
[03:14] <zykotick9> stiv2k: using apt to remove/purge something doesn't touch your home folder!  i but that's what's left over...
[03:14] <stiv2k> zykotick9: right
[03:14] <stiv2k> zykotick9: soo.... how do i fix it?
[03:14] <oldboy1> stiv2k: try this for i in {/usr,~/.local}/share/applications/*.desktop; do which $(grep -Poh '(?<=Exec=).*?( |$)' $i) > /dev/null || echo $i; done
[03:15] <stiv2k> oldboy1:  i tried that, but it did not list anything about wine
[03:15] <zykotick9> stiv2k: ? <- with i knew.  good luck.
[03:15] <zykotick9> s/with/wish/
[03:16] <rockstar__> is there any channel for graph theory and distributed systems? rockstar__
[03:16] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: That ending up at a grub prompt is gub can not find the proper config files. We have a couple of things we can do . I do prefer to try and boot this system from the grub > prompt and once booted try and repair grub .
[03:16] <stiv2k> oldboy1: i got it
[03:17] <stiv2k> tweaked the command to get every file, not just *.desktop
[03:18] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: I do have possibly another computer I could use so I could try that if it's really better way to go
[03:18] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: Are you presently at that grub > prompt ?
[03:18] <kxstudio> kxstudio: I.e. another system so I can still chat while dealing with that
[03:18] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: no, I'm back on the USB boot
[03:19] <OrangeMan>    /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER OrangeMan krjluhhshcqq
[03:20] <xangua> lkuagdsyuliftq
[03:21] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: ISP acting up again . The surer thing is to purge reinstall grub from the liveUSB in a full CHroot routine . But I am afraid I will loose you due to my ISP dropping connection . All we need to do is insure that grub can find it's config files .
[03:22] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: I can use the other computer and go back to the grub prompt or do whatever here, whatever you advise
[03:23] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: I am the more at ease to boot up the install from the grub > prompt . Otherwise I might leave you dangling and really mess up the system . Let's take the safer non-invasive course and boot frpm the grub > prompt .
[03:24] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: what about this option? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:29] <wolft> Bashing-om: hi, I'm on webchat on another computer now, could restart to grub prompt. I could also try that boot-repair utility if you think that's okay
[03:31] <shingshang> hmm, somehow when I'm trying to install freeglut3-dev, apt complains that I have unmet dependencies (gnome-cnotrol-center depends on libcheese-gtk23)
[03:31] <shingshang> but I have both of those installed?
[03:31] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: That is a viable option, but not advised in your case as we have 2 hard drives and grub will be installed to both and then we run into recursive netries in grub.cfg . If you know what you are doing and/or are carefull in the maunaul mode you can direct thsat grub be installed to 'sda' only .
[03:33] <shingshang> hmm, looks like a confirmed ubuntu bug, never mind
[03:33] <dupingping> The awesome software is published, You can use the trial version of Sticky Notes.
[03:33] <dupingping> http://korsoftware.com
[03:33] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: you could advise me in using that with manual options or we could go back to grub prompt, whichever you think
[03:34] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: I do prefer to "try" and boot from the grub > prompt . not at all invasive if we fail .
[03:34] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: okay
[03:36] <Guest71059> \quit
[03:40] <Jakethepython1> can i set up a raid 1 after i install install ubuntu on the main system?
[03:42] <wolft> Bashing-om: thanks for the help, patience sorry for the delay, I had started installing boot-repair just so I'd have it on the USB stick, and it's almost done :P but about to reboot to grub prompt
[03:42] <dupingping> The awesome software is published, You can use the trial version of Sticky Notes.
[03:42] <dupingping> http://korsoftware.com
[03:43] <Bashing-om> wolft: No hurry . At your pace .
[03:43] <adam__> Jakethepython1, you should be able to. setup the one drive, then boot into it and add the other to the array, then rebuild it
[03:43] <Jakethepython1> OK. the main system disk is not in the array of RAID
[03:43] <Jakethepython1> the 2 raid HDDS are for storage only
[03:44] <sir_> ?
[03:44] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay, at grub prompt
[03:44] <adam__> generally speaking, you should be able to take an existing disk of data, take it and another disk and make a raid array, then it'll either start rebuilding, or you'll have to start the 'rebuild' process yourself.
[03:45] <adam__> all rebuilding will do is duplicate the data across drives
[03:45] <Jakethepython1> ok thanks
[03:45] <adam__> assuming raid 0
[03:45] <Jakethepython1> i want a raid 1 on 2 hdds
[03:45] <adam__> assuming radi 1*
[03:45] <adam__> sorry
[03:45] <Jakethepython1> its ok
[03:45] <adam__> raid 0 has to be done at the startd
[03:45] <Jakethepython1> becasue of LVM and EFI i wasn't able to install
[03:45] <crazyhorse18> my entire UI has crashed
[03:45] <crazyhorse18> can i restart it from terminal?
[03:46] <Jakethepython1> ubunut w/ out remove the 2 hard drives w. raid
[03:46] <Jakethepython1> it gave me a grub cannot install error
[03:46] <adam__> crazyhorse18, sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart    though lightdm may need to be  gdm
[03:46] <crazyhorse18> hmm, i haven't got a terminal window open
[03:46] <crazyhorse18> i've got sublime text.. but don't know how to output commands from that
[03:48] <Bashing-om> wolft: OK, let's boot this sucker . We tell grub where the config files are so the kernel knows where it;s files are ; do 6 commands: ' set prefix=(hd1,msdos1)/boot/grub ; set root=(hd1,msdos1) ; insmod linux ; linux (hd1,msdos1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb1 ro ; initrd (hd1,msdos1)/initrd.img ; boot .
[03:49] <Bashing-om> wolft: OH shoot .. I messed up one of them .
[03:50] <wolft> Bashing-om: I didn't enter any yet
[03:50] <wolft> Bashing-om: incidentally "set prefix" didn't work with tab-completion, so that was odd
[03:51] <Bashing-om> wolft: Make that ' linux (hd1,msdos1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro ' here I had that 2nd hard drive on my mind for some reason ! .. we are on sda1 !
[03:52] <wolft> Bashing-om: this is probably what happened earlier! There's hd0 and hd1, I think we tried hd0 before, don't remember for certain
[03:52] <wolft> Bashing-om: please confirm that I want hd1 and not hd0 or otherwise tell me how to check to be sure
[03:53] <Bashing-om> wolft: That could be as expected that tab will not complete , as the location of files is not known at this time .
[03:53] <wolft> Bashing-om: re: tab completion, I thought that "prefix" the word itself would tab complete.  Because if we have this backwards, I'll be back to using the wrong drive, right?
[03:56] <Bashing-om> wolft: I am sure .. booting from grub , grub will alwaysa look to 'hd0' and hd0 is that 1st hard drive 'sda' -> hd0 is grub speak for sda .
[03:56] <tomhardy> hmm i can't boot ubuntu.. how can i get into a terminal window
[03:57] <dupingping> The awesome software is published, You can use the trial version of Sticky Notes.
[03:57] <dupingping> http://korsoftware.com
[03:57] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay, and yeah I got partition info from the prompt too and that confirms it
[03:57] <tomhardy> i've got into the recovery menu.. but it only allows you to boot into a read only prompt
[03:57] <cfhowlett> dupingping don't do that.  no spam in channel, please.
[03:58] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: <this should be a PM but i'm to lazy to ask> i wish your sda -> hd0 grub was true...
[03:58] <dupingping> cfhowlett, yes.
[03:59] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: OK, I am willing to be educated .. why is grub hd0 not the system sda ?
[03:59] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: /dev/sdX is subject to change!  uuid/labels are constant... but sdXY are NOT
[04:00] <tomhardy> hey guys i can't boot my computer, i go in and i get the system is running in low-graphics mode.. your screen / graphics device could not be detected
[04:00] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: often, but not always, what you boot off of will be sda
[04:00] <Bashing-om> wolft: Reaffirm : ' set prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub ; set root=(hd0,msdos1) ; insmod linux ; linux (hd0,msdos1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro ; initrd (hd0,msdos1)/initrd.img ; boot ' .
[04:02] <wolft> Bashing-om: I am now at a prompt, booted, but not at my GUI
[04:02] <wolft> Bashing-om: it's asking me to log in, like as though I had hit ctrl-alt F1
[04:02] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: OH, so true ! many times a USB thumb drive is picked up first and becomes 'sda' .
[04:02] <Bashing-om> wolft: Outstanding ! login !
[04:03] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: in the "good ol' days" it was _more_ likely to be true ;)
[04:03] <Bashing-om> wolft: At this time we do not need a GUI .
[04:03] <wolft> Bashing-om: ok, and then I tried startx but that failed
[04:03] <gagalicious> i'm freshly installing ubuntu 14.04. is there a way i can see all the highest review software installed? like top 100 reviewed ones on ubuntu?
[04:03] <gagalicious> for all categories in one shot
[04:04] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay, well, I'm logged in to my own user prompt anyway...
[04:04] <rypervenche> gagalicious: That would not be a smart thing to do.
[04:05] <Bashing-om> wol ok, run terminal command ' sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda ' .
[04:05] <wolft> Bashing-om: I do see /deve/sda1 on / ... when running mount! :)
[04:05] <cfhowlett> gagalicious, software center does provide ratings
[04:06] <Bashing-om> wolft: We do make progress . just a matter of getting grub straight now .
[04:06] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay that grub-install command is done, no errors
[04:07] <Bashing-om> wolft: Cross finger, ' sudo shutdown -r now ' and let's see if ya come back up with the proper boot .
[04:07] <gagalicious> cfhowlett : top 100 ubuntu software?
[04:07] <gagalicious> rypervenche: why not? i'm installing for pxe boot clients. just try to install the best software
[04:08] <wolft> Bashing-om: I'm all booted up in the system! :)
[04:08] <wolft> Bashing-om: NO!!
[04:08] <wolft> Bashing-om: My / is still sdb!
[04:08] <gagalicious> how come there is no fslint with ubuntu 14.04?
[04:08] <rypervenche> gagalicious: "popular" and "best" don't mean they should be installed on your system. If you aren't using nvidia drivers, but it is in that list...you don't need that.
[04:09] <gagalicious> what's a good backup (time machine) style for ubuntu 14.04 for home folders?
[04:09] <gagalicious> ... with git support will be best.
[04:09] <cfhowlett> !backup | gagalicious
[04:09] <gagalicious> rypervenche: at least i have a list of top 100 so i can know
[04:10] <wolft> Bashing-om: it used the fstab from sdb to get working, I'm still tied to sdb
[04:10] <rypervenche> gagalicious: fslint is in ubuntu 14.04
[04:10] <rypervenche> gagalicious: You may need to enable universe.
[04:10] <gagalicious> how do i enable universe? :)
[04:10] <gagalicious> cfhowlett: thanks. checking
[04:12] <Bashing-om> wolft: K. then we have recursion from within the present /grub/grub.dcg file ! .. we purge grub and re-install .
[04:13] <gagalicious> i have one tiny complain with apt-get... i realised it doesnt download all the things in parallel.
[04:13] <wolft> Bashing-om: do I need to restart from USB again?
[04:13] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I remove the white spaces in a table in MySQL?
[04:16] <tomhardy> i have ubuntu 15.04 is it possible for me to install the latest intel graphics drivers?
[04:17] <Bashing-om> wolft: No, I am afraid of loosing you, we could from the usb, but let's boot back up from the grub > prompt . and purge/re-install  once booted back to the command line in the install .
[04:17] <wolft> Bashing-om: I can stay connected on this computer whether I use USB on the other computer or not
[04:17] <H0bbit> do I need to see a dr about this  http://www.bestgore.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/vagina-growth-500x419.jpg
[04:17] <cfhowlett> tomhardy, yes, intel supports 15.04
[04:18] <wolft> Bashing-om: but anyway, how do I get to the grub prompt now that it boots otherwise?
[04:18] <tomhardy> i can't boot my OS
[04:18] <cfhowlett> H0bbit, stopy your silliness
[04:18] <tomhardy> because of "Low-graphics mode"
[04:18] <tomhardy> it's been working for 4 days fine (new install).. then this morning it just stopped working
[04:18] <H0bbit> tomhardy, rm -rfv --nopreserveroot should fix it
[04:19] <wolft> Bashing-om: right now, I'm running the system normally (with sdb as / ) so I could just use a terminal as normal
[04:19] <tomhardy> H0bbit: go f*** yourself
[04:19] <cfhowlett> tomhardy, no profanity so stop.  don't feed the trolls.
[04:20] <tomhardy> can't stand assholes like that.. what if it had been some new user who was just setting ubuntu for the first time and had actually run the command
[04:20] <H0bbit> tomhardy, I already did fk myself, I beat my meat 3 times a day
[04:20] <cfhowlett> !ops | tomhardy H0bbit
[04:21] <phunyguy> hello
[04:21] <phunyguy> can we please keep it family friendly in here?
[04:21] <tomhardy> so is it likely to be a graphic failure? or do i need to reinstall ubuntu?
[04:21] <tomhardy> phunyguy: sorry
[04:22] <grinchier> that reminds of the guys in games who use to tell people to alt f4 years ago
[04:22] <phunyguy> grinchier: ok enough
[04:22] <adam__> phunyguy, tomhardy can, but H0bbit needed to go
[04:22] <phunyguy> please.
[04:22] <Bashing-om> wolft: Lost it again (ISP) did you get my xx:17 entry ?
[04:22] <grinchier> what did I do?
[04:22] <phunyguy> h0bbit is gone
[04:22] <phunyguy> let's just stay on topic with support pleasre.
[04:22] <phunyguy> -r
[04:22] <wolft> Bashing-om: yes I saw, we need to purge/re-install
[04:23] <wolft> Bashing-om: I can stay connected on this computer whether I use USB on the other computer or not
[04:23] <Forge_ek> please*
[04:23] <wolft> Bashing-om: but anyway, how do I get to the grub prompt now that it boots otherwise?
[04:23] <wolft> Bashing-om: right now, I'm running the system normally (with sdb as / ) so I could just use a terminal as normal
[04:24] <grinchier> tomhardy: did you install or update anything?
[04:25] <tomhardy> grinchier: i wasnt' doing anything except creating directories in ~/Desktop/test
[04:25] <wolft> oh damnit! 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)
[04:25] <tomhardy> i created 7 directories each with permissions on the group from 1 to 7 for some tests
[04:25] <Bashing-om> wolft: Next step up trying to manintain non-invasiveness ' sudo apt-get remove --purge grub grub-pc grub-common ; sudo mv /boot/grub /boot/grub_backup ; sudo mkdir /boot/grub ; sudo apt-get install grub-pc grub-common ; sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda ; sudo update-grub; ' // ignore the erors about grub-pc and just go on .
[04:26] <wolft> now hat I understand, that *might* mean it *is* a connection problem with the main drive!
[04:26] <grinchier> tomhardy: anything in xorg log?
[04:26] <wolft> (not with the disk itself, just replaced that, but with some connection)
[04:26] <tomhardy> the entire screen locked up, and after rebooted
[04:26] <grinchier> syslog, boot log any clues?
[04:26] <grinchier> hmm
[04:26] <tomhardy> ok i'll take a log
[04:27] <Bashing-om> wolft: The above commands booted to the sda1 install from the grub> prompt . else will not work .
[04:28] <gogzo> Hi! I'm trying yo add the Debian DVD's to my Ubuntu repositorie becouse the computer dont has access to the internet. I know it isn't a good idea, but I must do it. apt-cdrom add is not working so I whant to add it manualy. ¿Do anyone know what I need after deb cdrom:?
[04:28] <Bashing-om> wolft: IF bios sees the drive we are OK, IF bios does not recognize the drive then can not pass it off to the operating system .
[04:28] <wolft> Bashing-om: I've never successfully booted from the sda1 ever
[04:28] <tomhardy> ok so xorg.log has 100 lines of "add input device HDA iINtel PCH LINE .. no input driver speicfied, ignoring this dedivce... but it all looks like sound stuff
[04:28] <wolft> Bashing-om: er, never with it as / anyway
[04:28] <tomhardy> is it possible for me to pump the xorg log to pastie?
[04:28] <tomhardy> from command line?
[04:29] <wolft> Bashing-om: since I think there's grub on both drives, I don't know how to trust that boot was from sda
[04:29] <Bashing-om> wolft: HUH ? did we not just do that booting the 6 commands from the grub > prompt ?
[04:29] <tomhardy> i've enabled networking
[04:29] <grinchier> maybe someone can tell you the command to do that
[04:29] <wolft> Bashing-om: yes we did, okay so that's assured?
[04:29] <Loshki_> tomhardy: pastebinit?
[04:29] <tomhardy> Loshki_: thanks i'll check it out
[04:29] <wolft> Bashing-om: I got to the grub> prompt
[04:30] <wolft> Bashing-om: should I just do boot and then do those commands in the normal terminal?
[04:30] <fishcooker> how to logrotate rsyslog with template like this '/logs/%fromhost-ip%/' ?
[04:31] <Bashing-om> wolft: Yes, assured, If ya want to test .. try replacing 'hd0,msdos1' with 'hd1,msdos1' ( i would have to verify that the '/' is installed on sdb to that 1st partition on sdb ).
[04:32] <wolft> Bashing-om: that's okay, I verified enough
[04:32] <grinchier> tomhardy: http://simpledeveloper.com/system-running-in-low-graphics-mode/   worth a shot
[04:33] <tomhardy> thanks i'll try that
[04:33] <Bashing-om> wolft: Yeah, I am trying to do this in the safest way possible so I do not leave you in a hurt if/when I loose connection . Boot via the grub > prompt with the 6 commands. then run the last sequence to purge grub as is present and make up a new one .
[04:33] <tomhardy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11754655/   http://paste.ubuntu.com/11754653/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/11754659/ << syslog, xorg, boot
[04:34] <tomhardy> looks like boot.log stops on LDM
[04:37] <tomhardy> do i want gdm or lightdm as the default graphics manager?
[04:37] <calvinx> lotuspsychje: purchased the ssd and got ubuntu installed in the external ssd. now I can boot up ubuntu on my mac via refind boot manager. blazing fast with the ssd, as you said. very cool. no need to buy a new laptop :-) thanks.
[04:38] <wolft> Bashing-om: that all worked sorta BUT I don't think it affected the grub files on sda because all the commands other than the install affected sdb
[04:38] <adam__> tomhardy, either should work
[04:38] <wolft> Bashing-om: in other words, the purge purged sdb grub, but not sda grub
[04:38] <wolft> wolft: I'm back running but still sdb as /
[04:38] <tomhardy> ok... rebooting.. fingers crossed... i've scripted my entire install process, so even if i have to reinstall everything it should only take me an hour or so
[04:39] <adam__> tomhardy, for less chance of complications though, choose gdm
[04:39] <adam__> aah i was too late. it's no biggie. which did you go with though?
[04:39] <tomhardy> hmm.. lihggtdm.. still in low-graphcis mode
[04:39] <TragicM3LON> question, is it possible to install a bootloader on a macbook so that i can get into linux that was just installed?
[04:39] <wolft> Bashing-om: I think probably the whole source of this is the fact that we cloned the original sdb / to the new sda and so the new sda has some files that still point to sdb. We edited fstab, so it isn't that
[04:39] <TragicM3LON> i'm not dualbooting, i just have linux on there for now
[04:39] <grinchier> tomhardy: ya i don't see anything in those logs i can find man
[04:40] <grinchier> have you tried to start gdm?
[04:40] <wolft> Bashing-om: but I should figure out how to purge grub stuff from sda and reinstall
[04:40] <tomhardy> hmmm so try again.. but this time with gdm?
[04:40] <grinchier> go a tty, login and type gdm just for the hell of it
[04:40] <tomhardy> grinchier: start gdm?  i can reinstall that package
[04:40] <grinchier> oh
[04:40] <tomhardy> i chose lightdm
[04:40] <grinchier> did you recenlty remove it to install ldm?
[04:41] <Bashing-om> wolft: Beyond my cpmprehension how that could have happened ! . We booted sda. purged the then presnt grub and it's config files. sadb should not even be in this picture UNLESS from sdb you "update-grub" . Then the recursion in dsa's grub sets in again . ( we will prevent that happening when we get booting from sda straoght) .
[04:41] <adam__> gdm was an option, so it's already installed just not default
[04:41] <tomhardy> i just followed this guide mode
[04:41] <tomhardy> http://simpledeveloper.com/system-running-in-low-graphics-mode/
[04:41] <grinchier> oh ok see what happens
[04:42] <Bashing-om> wolft: Another thought ! What is set in bios as that 1st boot priority ???
[04:43] <wolft> Bashing-om: every time we booted sda, sdb was / so the *then present* grub files, well, there's /grub/ right? and maybe all the actions (like purge) are happening on /grub which is sdb rather than sda's /grub
[04:43] <wolft> Bashing-om: bios is set to have the sda drive as 1st priority
[04:43] <tomhardy> i got some odd errors when installing .. i got "failed to open connection to "system" message bus: Failed to connect to sockect /var/run/debugs/system_bus_sockets: confnection refused.... and error getting authority   error initializing authority: could not connect: connnection refused (g-io-error-quark, 39)
[04:44] <tomhardy> sorry touch typing that. so not a copy and paste
[04:44] <tomhardy> that was with sudo apt-get install gdm
[04:45] <Jakethepython1> has anyone here set up Samba as a domain controller?
[04:46] <grinchier> umm
[04:47] <grinchier> tomhardy: that just made me crosseyed dude lol
[04:47] <grinchier> have you udpated recenlty i mean apt-get upgrade?
[04:47] <tomhardy> yeah i'm upto the most recent
[04:47] <tomhardy> apt-get update dist-upgrade.. but not this morning
[04:47] <Bashing-om> wolft: In sda's fstab file is set that a particular UUID that is infact sda1 is the booting partition. in that booting file system table there is no reference to any other drive . We boot the sda drive, purge grub, and re-install grub to the boot sector of sda . I can not comprehend with the boot priority set to sda that sdb can even enter into this picture .
[04:48] <tomhardy> i might try this https://askubuntu.com/questions/614198/starting-version-219-bug-after-the-15-04-update
[04:48] <tomhardy> i still can't boot with GDM
[04:48] <adam__> Jakethepython1, i'm not sure what you mean by domain controller
[04:48] <grinchier> did you try your link?
[04:49] <wolft> Bashing-om: I guess I wondered if copying files from sdb to sda originally could result in stuff that referenced sdb and that purging somehow was only purging sdb and not sda, but I dunno
[04:49] <Jakethepython1> FYI adam, i got teh Raid and the System disk all working thanks for the help :)
[04:49] <wolft> Bashing-om: isn't there some grub file I can open to look at?
[04:49] <adam__> glad to hear that
[04:50] <grinchier> tomhardy: ya do that man  worth a shot
[04:50] <Bashing-om> wolft: How about we boot the liveDVD, mount sda1 and have a look at the /etc/fsstab from that environmnet so we KNOW that the file in the correct place (sda1/etc/fstab)? And yes we can look at the main file grub reads for booting .
[04:52] <tomhardy> grinchier: did that' still get error initlizing authority
[04:53] <grinchier> i wonder how we can delete your xorg.conf and then reinitialize it,  but your not using amd or nvidia right,   its vesa on an intel card?
[04:53] <tomhardy> http://c0rp.kz/ubuntu-boot-problem-after-upgrade-14-10-15-04/
[04:53] <grinchier> tomhardy: i actually do see an error here  EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
[04:54] <adam__> grinchier, if you move it ( mv /etc/xorg.conf{,.bak} ) it should regenerate a new one on the next start
[04:54] <tomhardy> ok i'll try that
[04:54] <grinchier> ^  tyr that man
[04:54] <grinchier> i know with amd or nvidia  its xconfig or amd --initial  something like that,  I never used an intel card
[04:54] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay restarting from USB
[04:55] <tomhardy> adam__: : should xorg.conf be in /etc ?
[04:55] <adam__> yes, though the capitilazation may be different
[04:55] <Bashing-om> wolft: K. waiting .
[04:57] <adam__> tomhardy, i just checked on mine and i'm not seeing that file at all, though i suspect your answers lie within  /etc/X11/
[04:58] <wolft> Bashing-om: ok
[05:01] <wolft> Bashing-om: the fstab file is definitely as expected on sda
[05:01] <Bashing-om> wolft: Mount the target partition ' sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ' ; and we check ' cat /mnt/etc/fstab ' compare the UUIDs to the results of ' sudo fdisk -lu ; sudo blkid ' .
[05:01] <grinchier> tomhardy: you might want to install fglrx if it doesn't work
[05:01] <tomhardy> yeah.. i couldn't find any xorg confs.. i'll try that
[05:01] <tomhardy> if all else fails, i might need to format and start again :/
[05:02] <grinchier> whats your card model again?
[05:02] <grinchier> tomhardy: wait
[05:02] <tomhardy> Intel Xeon E3 - 1200 Version 2 Third Generation Core Processor Graphics Controller
[05:03] <ianorlin> tomhardy: what video output are you plugged into for intel you shouldn't need xorg.conf
[05:04] <tomhardy> ianorlin: video output?  i've got two monitors.. one is VGA and one is DVI if that's what you mean?
[05:04] <grinchier> ianorlin: what driver should he use?
[05:04] <grinchier> its using vesa right now
[05:05] <wolft> Bashing-om: all line up correctly
[05:05] <tomhardy> what's particularly odd though, it's not like i was doing sudo apt-get update.. the whole OS was working really well, adn then just froze while i was using terminal, then on reboot the error appeared
[05:06] <wolft> Bashing-om: I could try that boot-repair tool...
[05:07] <Bashing-om> wolft: OK, let's take a look at the main boot file that grub runs ' cat /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg ' . See if we can spot anything strange .
[05:07] <adam__> tomhardy, hate to go the windows route, but have you done a couple reboots since? something about video on ubuntu seems to take reboots
[05:07] <tomhardy> yeah 10 times or more
[05:07] <adam__> aww
[05:07] <adam__> ummm
[05:08] <tomhardy> i see that error appearing all the time
[05:08] <Bashing-om> wolft: We can run boot-repair, but it has been some time since I have used it . My instruction will be a bit iffy .
[05:08] <grinchier> ubuntu has the additional drivers thing right?
[05:09] <Blue1> I am still working on trying to get bluray to work
[05:09] <Blue1> !bluray | blue1
[05:09] <tomhardy> grinchier: i reinstalled fglrx.. OS still won't boot past "started crash report submission deamon"
[05:10] <grinchier> oh it won't boot?
[05:11] <tomhardy> i can only get into recovery mode terminal
[05:11] <wolft> Bashing-om: what am I looking for in that file?
[05:11] <tomhardy> https://askubuntu.com/questions/608130/how-to-run-software-which-requires-the-latest-intel-modules << i could try installing the intel drivers
[05:11] <Blue1> I have had problems with fglrx
[05:12] <Bashing-om> wolft: Any UUID that refers to a UUID from 'fdisk' that is referring to sdb .
[05:12] <wolft> Bashing-om: aha, I found a reference in that grub file that refers to sdb's UUID
[05:12] <wolft> several actually
[05:13] <wolft> it's full of references to the UUID of sdb
[05:14] <Bashing-om> wolft: OK, I can not imagine where grub parses what file to pick it up . Ya want to try the invasive method and purge grub once more totally and rebuild ?
[05:14] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: parses what file?
[05:14] <tomhardy> grinchier, adam__: thanks for your help, i'm thinking at this point i'll have to make a backup of my new files and then go for a reinstall
[05:15] <tomhardy> it's lunch time so i have to head off for a bit :)
[05:15] <grinchier> tomhardy: ya thats the ppa i use too
[05:15] <tomhardy> yeah ok i'll try that ppa first
[05:15] <eXonl> yup im in
[05:15] <tomhardy> then if that doesnt' work.. then reinstall
[05:15] <adam__> sorry it wasn't easier. you win some, and you loose some
[05:15] <wolft> Bashing-om: the "invasive method" being what?
[05:16] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Ya gor me, We have rebuilt 'etc/fstab' to point correctly, purged grub and re-installed, still booting sdb vice sda . and yes boot priority has been checked .
[05:16] <peterPan> Anyone know of a good channel for phone hack information?
[05:16] <Bashing-om> wolft: We chroot into the install from the liveUSB, purge grub and re-install .
[05:16] <EriC^^> try to update-grub Bashing-om
[05:16] <grinchier> tomhardy: wish i was more help man,  but i don't have experience with your type of system lol
[05:16] <grinchier> i can't even find much on google about it
[05:16] <adam__> peterPan, xda-developers
[05:17] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Yeah, we did 'sudo update-grub' at the end of the re-install.
[05:17] <peterPan> thanks
[05:17] <grinchier> if you had an amd or nvida card would be alot easier lol
[05:17] <wolft> Bashing-om: fwiw, the grub.cfg file says the date for it is 6/20/15
[05:18] <Bashing-om> wolft: That file should have been purged ! why not I can not hazzard a guess.
[05:19] <wolft> Bashing-om: there is no grub.cfg on the sdb /
[05:19] <Bashing-om> wolft: As my connection seems stable presntly . Let's do the chroot .
[05:20] <wolft> Bashing-om: and there's a /grub/ directory on sda and not on sdb...
[05:20] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay...
[05:20] <wolft> Bashing-om: we wouldn't want to try manually purging that file and then just reinstalling?
[05:20] <wolft> or?
[05:20] <wolft> whatever you recommend...
[05:21] <wolft> I do have the boot-repair utility and all my data is backed up, so worst worst case, I won't lose important stuff anyway
[05:22] <Bashing-om> wolft: Considering deleteing /grub.cfg . Agreed, can not hurt in the long term .
[05:23] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay removed
[05:23] <adam__> Bashing-om, wolft  instead of deleting, what about renaming it?  mv /grub.cfg{,.bak}
[05:24] <wolft> adam__: oh yeah, that would have been smart, too late now! :P
[05:24] <adam__> i work on live systems, so it's just how i think
[05:25] <Bashing-om> wolft: OK, to re-build grub.cfg we need to chroot into the install, back out of the presnt mount ; 'sudo umount /mnt' . and we set up for CHRoot .
[05:27] <wolft> umounting done, and there's another command for CHRoot set up?
[05:31] <Bashing-om> wolft: A biggy difference : 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -;- for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done  -;- sudo chroot /mnt . where -;- are my separators between commnads. You are now root and in the install for sda1 .
[05:31] <TheChips> have any of you used Plank dock? if so, did you keep it or did you switch to something better?
[05:33] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay done
[05:33] <ianorlin> TheChips: I found it ok although I do not generally like docks
[05:34] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: did you fix fstab before grub-install?
[05:34] <chrisss123456> hey guys, does anyone know how power management is dealt with in Ubuntu 14.10? Specifically, sound driver power?
[05:35] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Yes we did . that was step 1.
[05:36] <Bashing-om> wolft: Now to build the new grub.cfg; do : 'grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg ' .
[05:37] <adam__> chrisss123456, probably the same as any else; it issues a suspend command to the driver. do you have anything more specific?
[05:38] <TheChips> cool, thanks ianorlin , I found it on a 3rd party site instead of the ubuntu software center, so I wanted to check that it's not useless / malware
[05:38] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: I am really stumped on this one, most welcome to peek over my shoulder .
[05:38] <ianorlin> TheChips: it is in 15.04 in the repos not sure about trusty or lts versions
[05:38] <wolft> Bashing-om: it said Found .. (linux and initrd stuff) and then: Found Ubuntu 14.04.2 .. on /dev/sdb1
[05:39] <chrisss123456> adam__: all i remember is that in 14.04 there was some config file for the settings that these sends, where i could turn off the power management for the sound board.
[05:39] <Bashing-om> wolft: That is acceptable .
[05:39] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: isn't ubuntu on sda1?
[05:39] <wolft> Bashing-om: sdb1?
[05:40] <EriC^^> wolft: you have ubuntu on sda1 and sdb1?
[05:40] <wolft> EriC^^: this whole process was about moving to a new drive, so I copied the system from the old drive
[05:40] <EriC^^> so it's still on the old drive?
[05:41] <wolft> EriC^^: so yes, there is a system on both, except that sdb is a small drive and has no space for a full system, just for / without /home and /opt ...
[05:41] <Bashing-om> eric wolft We have ubuntu on 2 drives ( recursion) , wolft os_30=prober runs, and will find all operatingsystems and chainload them to the boot menu. in this case as sda1 as the primary boot authority it is what we want.
[05:41] <EriC^^> ok, looks good then
[05:42] <wolft> Bashing-om: but the sdb1 in this command, doesn't that seem like the source for the issue?
[05:42] <EriC^^> wolft: it found the kernel of sda1, so it's ok
[05:42] <wolft> Bashing-om: if you think we're okay and can go on though...
[05:43] <Bashing-om> wolft: Nope, not at this time - not a problem . IF we were to run update-grub from sdb then it would then create a problem.
[05:43] <wolft> ok
[05:43] <wolft> so, ready for next steps
[05:44] <Bashing-om> wolft: We done here and ready to back out of the CHRoot ?
[05:44] <wolft> if you say so
[05:46] <wolft> Bashing-om: ^
[05:47] <Bashing-om> wolft: IF 'mkconfig' completed, then we back out and boot up . ' exit ; sudo umount /mnt/run ; sudo umount /mnt/dev/pts ; sudo umount /mnt/sys ; sudo umount /mnt/proc ; sudo umount /mnt/dev ; sudo umount /mnt . Reboot - make sure that sda is 1st boot priority ; and let;s see if we have done it !
[05:52] <wolft> Bashing-om: not perfect, started up with sdb as / still, but the .cfg on sda now has the right UUID stuff
[05:53] <wolft> Bashing-om: there's reference to that Ubuntu install that was found on sdb
[05:53] <EriC^^> wolft: did you boot the first entry?
[05:53] <dianne167> hello.  I tried to install the package nautilus-dropbox from the terminal, and it has been stuck now at what appears to be the end for ever...  on my past install i  used ubuntu software center to install it and it worked flawlessly.  after the download, a setupp for dropbox openned.  this time, the terminal is stuck at "Downloading Dropbox... 100%"
[05:53] <Bashing-om> wolft: I can not fathom the why/how sdb could possibly boot !
[05:54] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: i think fstab still has sdb's uuid
[05:54] <dianne167> and in my list of installed apps is "dropbox", the installer, but it will not open
[05:54] <dianne167> and ctrl+c will not stop the terminal
[05:54] <dianne167> i think i am screwed
[05:54] <wolft> Okay, I selected a different option in grub this time, Grub said specifically "on sda1" in the grub menu
[05:54] <dianne167> all because i tried to install it in the terminal
[05:54] <dianne167> please help if you can
[05:55] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: We have checked twice . Wont hurt to look again .
[05:55] <wolft> Bashing-om: so, I know it was booting with sda but still sdb is /
[05:55] <dianne167> i dont want to have to do a fresh install because i mess up my packages
[05:55] <Bashing-om> wolft: How do you know that '/' is from sdb ?
[05:56] <ArifWW> Hi all, is all server listed on http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/server/models/?release=14.04%20LTS&vendors=HP tested for ubuntu openstack ?
[05:56] <PanV> Hey. I got the same problem again.
[05:56] <wolft> Bashing-om: well, I checked the mount points in gparted
[05:56] <PanV> It was fixed my its own yersteday but...
[05:59] <adam__> wolf: pastebin this   dmesg | egrep sd[a-z][0-9]
[05:59] <Bashing-om> wolft: I do have a thought now, as sdb was the original install the recussion is in sdb's grub and when we update sda1's grub it picks up that resurssion from sdb's grub !
[06:00] <wolft> yeah
[06:02] <tomhardy> :( 6kbs
[06:02] <tomhardy> in apt-get update
[06:02] <tomhardy> sla
[06:02] <PanV> http://bit.ly/1Ro7vsu This leads to askubuntu.com. I got a semi-big problem.
[06:02] <Bashing-om> wolft: So what we have to do is re-install sdb's grub; disable sdb's grub's "30_os-prober" . Then purge sda's grub and (RE-)install grub for sda .
[06:03] <grinchier> tomhardy: so you did a reinstall? graphics working right?
[06:03] <tomhardy> haha.. downloading.. but i'm in mainland china so the ppa.launchpads are coming down very slowly
[06:04] <OpenSorce> The update to 3.13.0-55 sends makes grub simply reboot continuously. Known bug?
[06:04] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay, do I need to do this from USB?
[06:05] <Bashing-om> wolft: Yeah, we can do all that from the liveUSB. Be aware I am some kind of tired and my think'n not to clear. so double check me as we go .
[06:05] <wolft> ok
[06:06] <Bashing-om> wolft: Advise when you are at terminal in the liveUSB .
[06:10] <wolft> Bashing-om: ok
[06:10] <georoot> help
[06:12] <wolft> Bashing-om: I mean, I'm there
[06:13] <Bashing-om> wolft: ' sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt ; sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb ; sudo chmod -x /mnt/etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ; sudo umount /mnt ' // next we redo sda .
[06:13] <paulodiovani> `mount` command is not obeying my fstab after I changed it. Is there any other mount config file?
[06:14] <wolft> Bashing-om: warning this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible.
[06:15] <rimdeker> Are there any DEs/WMs that have one big virtual desktop where you pan across it instead of multiple display-sized ones between which you can switch? I think it'd be cool to have one big desktop where you can pan across like in RTS games
[06:15] <wolft> Bashing-om: warning: Embedding is not possible.  ... only use blocklists, however blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
[06:15] <wolft> Bashing-om: error: will not proceed with blocklists
[06:15] <Bashing-om> wolft: !! yikes ! that is right, sdb is a GPT disks . EriC^^ help !
[06:16] <nabn> anyone else facing sound issues? headphones work fine, but i get no sound through external speakers.
[06:16] <wolft> nabn: try alsa-mixer
[06:16] <nabn> and by external, i mean those built into the laptop
[06:17] <PanV> EriC^^, I got the same problem
[06:17] <PanV> Look at the post http://bit.ly/1Ro7vsu
[06:17] <wolft> nabn: oops I mean alsamixer (no hyphen)
[06:17] <PanV> It was fixed but now it is broken again
[06:17] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: sda doesn't use sdb grub, afaik
[06:18] <nabn> wolft: on it.
[06:18] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: why don't you just erase sdb
[06:18] <wolft> EriC^^: there's definitely something going on here, sda is mounting sdb as / even when I boot with sda and fstab file on sda just uses sda as /
[06:19] <EriC^^> wolft: are you in a live usb right now?
[06:19] <wolft> EriC^^: the main reason to hesitate to erase sdb is that it is the one way that the system works at all
[06:19] <wolft> EriC^^: I am on a live USB, yes
[06:19] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:19] <wolft> EriC^^: and I could do reinstalls if truly necessary
[06:19] <nabn> wolft: i don't know what to do with it..
[06:19] <wolft> EriC^^: but I don't want a bricked system and having to reinstall
[06:19] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: The only thing I can come up with is that sda's grub when os-proper runs picks up that corrput grub.cfg from sdb. My experience installing to GPT is limited though I may be able to fumble my way through .
[06:20] <tomhardy> grinchier: it didnt' work
[06:20] <nabn> wolft: i think the problem lies in my comptuer not switching output sources, if i am not wrong
[06:20] <tomhardy> I think a reinstall will be my only option
[06:20] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: i don't think os-prober checks for other grub files
[06:21] <wolft> EriC^^: termbin.com/wcg6
[06:21] <wolft> nabn: alsamixer with all the settings will let you mute / unmute / see everything, adjust
[06:21] <EriC^^> wolft: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[06:21] <wolft> nabn: try left / right arrows and see what space bar does etc.
[06:22] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Well, A while back I did go round and round with my sytem booting and all kinds of ATA errors, When I finally gor grub straight on all installs and 30-osprober turned off on all but the primary booting system . All my problems were solved.
[06:22] <wolft> EriC^^: done
[06:23] <EriC^^> wolft: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[06:23] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: sdb is the GPT disk  for wolft .
[06:25] <OpenSorce> Okay, I want to undo a recent kernel update. I know how to do it from the CLI but I need to show someone how to do it from the GUI. Where would I start?
[06:25] <EriC^^> wolft: (sudo blkid && cat /etc/fstab) | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:26] <EriC^^> wolft: (sudo blkid && cat /mnt/etc/fstab) | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:26] <wolft> EriC^^: /wraj is the one with ./mnt
[06:27] <EriC^^> OpenSorce: software center maybe?
[06:27] <wolft> EriC^^: /h0cd is the one without /mnt
[06:27] <OpenSorce> EriC^^, no kidding... not really apparent how to unintall from there though.
[06:27] <OpenSorce> *uninstall
[06:27] <wolft> EriC^^: the . was a typo above sorry
[06:28] <EriC^^> OpenSorce: never tried that myself
[06:28] <OpenSorce> EriC^^, thanks anyway :-)
[06:28] <EriC^^> OpenSorce: if the old kernel is still there, why don't you just tell them how to delete it from the terminal
[06:29] <OpenSorce> EriC^^, Well it's not something they would remember... and I wanted them to be able to repeat it in the future if there's another problem later.
[06:31] <EriC^^> OpenSorce: there's a history tab in software center, if they type linux-image in the search it should show the last kernel it installed
[06:31] <EriC^^> unfortunately you can't click on it to uninstall
[06:32] <OpenSorce> EriC^^, Yep. Shows it just fine. Just no way to remove it :-)
[06:32] <EriC^^> wolft: ok, did you type the for i command?
[06:33] <wolft> EriC^^: yes
[06:33] <leonic> hello i am trying to configure reshft
[06:33] <EriC^^> wolft: type cat /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:33] <OpenSorce> What I'd like to do is remove it and then try the update again to see if it would work this time. I'd prefer to keep her laptop up to date rather than locking the kernel to the working version
[06:34] <wolft> EriC^^: 18pb
[06:34] <leonic> but i get unknown adjustmet method xrandar
[06:35] <gagalicious> i'm new to ubuntu... anyone has created any special user for special purposes mind sharing their experience here? thanks
[06:35] <gagalicious> from a desktop perspective
[06:35] <sympto> leonic: comment the line out or try xrandr
[06:36] <wolft> EriC^^: Bashing-om : I want to get this fixed but I have to turn in really soon
[06:37] <wolft> it'll be very satisfying if we can solve it but I don't have much longer
[06:37] <EriC^^> wolft: it all looks fine
[06:37] <EriC^^> type cat /mnt/etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:37] <wolft> I know!
[06:37] <wolft> ok
[06:38] <leonic> no more methods to try
[06:38] <wolft> EriC^^: xlh2
[06:40] <EriC^^> wolft: type ls -l /mnt/boot/grub | nc termbin.com
[06:41] <wolft> EriC^^: k7lx
[06:41] <Guest35021> Are there any howto to use flashcache on raspberrypi2 with ubuntu MATE?
[06:41] <EriC^^> wolft: ok, reboot
[06:42] <EriC^^> hold shift so you get grub
[06:42] <wolft> EriC^^: okay
[06:43] <wolft> EriC^^: and?
[06:43] <EriC^^> press e over the entry
[06:44] <leonic> brb
[06:44] <wolft> EriC^^: ok
[06:44] <EriC^^> do you see this line linux	/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-55-lowlatency root=UUID=1650050..... ?
[06:45] <wolft> EriC^^: no, it says the UUID of sdb
[06:45] <EriC^^> ok, you're booting sdb
[06:45] <EriC^^> change the order in the bios
[06:46] <EriC^^> what was the entry called? the one you pressed e over?
[06:46] <wolft> EriC^^: I'm not booting sdb, I have the order set to sda first
[06:46] <jak2000> hi all, anyone here copied from an IPAD Photos/Videos to the Hard Disk? how to?
[06:47] <EriC^^> jak2000: i copy iphone pics/videos usually by mounting it in nautilus then go to DCIM
[06:47] <wolft> EriC^^: first tried just "Ubuntu" and then *all* the entries looked like sdb, then I tried an entry that specified sda1 and that one shows the sda1 UUID under if... else... search stuff but still shows the sdb UUID for the linux line
[06:48] <Bashing-om> wolft: EriC^^ I too am burned out this session. I must cease and desist 'til the morrow,
[06:48] <EriC^^> wolft: are you able to remove sdb?
[06:49] <wolft> Bashing-om: thanks same here, but thanks again
[06:50] <wolft> EriC^^: I don't know, it's not easy, it's built into the computer in some inaccessible place
[06:51] <Bashing-om> wolft: :) . IF EriC^^ does not see a solution, then it is a real bugger bear. We will fight it some more tomorrow.
[06:51] <EriC^^> wolft: ok boot the entry
[06:51] <wolft> EriC^^: at this point, if I'd known it would be this much hassle, I would have probably wiped things and installed fresh
[06:51] <wolft> EriC^^: I booted to the one that specified sda1
[06:52] <EriC^^> ok, type mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:52] <wolft> EriC^^: and I went even further in pushing down sdb in theBIOS
[06:52] <EriC^^> ok
[06:52] <wolft> EriC^^: kmbq
[06:53] <EriC^^> cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:53] <EriC^^> and cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:54] <wolft> EriC^^: 1a77
[06:54] <OpenSorce> EriC^^, does Ubuntu's package manager get along well with Synaptic?
[06:55] <EriC^^> wolft: also the cat /boot.. command
[06:55] <EriC^^> wolft: do you get the grub menu without holding shift?
[06:56] <wolft> EriC^^: 3wyu
[06:56] <ianorlin> OpenSorce: you can install synaptic from the repos but opening synaptic and software center at sametime won't work well as you can only change packages from one place at a time
[06:56] <ianorlin> OpenSorce: otherwise there would be so many ways to break installing stuff with installing from different places at same time
[06:57] <EriC^^> wolft: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mount$i; done
[06:57] <ianorlin> or you can't update with apt-get on the command line and a graphical version at the same time
[06:57] <EriC^^> wolft: /mount not /mnt
[06:57] <OpenSorce> ianorlin, thanks I wasn't going to try to run them simultaneously. Just looking for a GUI method of uninstalling a recent kernal update
[06:57] <EriC^^> wolft: i think grub isn't installed properly on sda and it's skipping it and booting sdb
[06:59] <wolft> EriC^^: so what should I do?
[06:59] <EriC^^> type the for i command
[06:59] <wolft> done
[06:59] <EriC^^> type sudo chroot /mount
[06:59] <wolft> ok
[06:59] <EriC^^> grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[07:00] <wolft> done
[07:00] <wolft> EriC^^: now what?
[07:00] <EriC^^> update-grub
[07:00] <OpenSorce> Well I was hoping to just re-install the latest kernel but there must be a bug it just reboots.
[07:01] <wolft> EriC^^: done
[07:01] <EriC^^> wolft: ok, no errors reported?
[07:02] <wolft> no errors
[07:02] <EriC^^> ok, type exit
[07:02] <wolft> ok
[07:03] <EriC^^> type sudo mv /boot/grub/grub.cfg{,.old}
[07:03] <jak2000> EriC^^ nautils?
[07:03] <jak2000> how to know if i have nautils installed?
[07:03] <EriC^^> jak2000: yes the file manager
[07:03] <EriC^^> jak2000: do you have unity?
[07:04] <wolft> EriC^^: ok
[07:04] <jak2000> i see in file manager
[07:04] <jak2000> mounted the ipad but
[07:04] <EriC^^> wolft: ok, reboot
[07:04] <jak2000> the videos not see
[07:04] <EriC^^> jak2000: click on its name, then you get a bunch of dirs right?
[07:04] <jak2000> yes
[07:05] <EriC^^> is there DCIM ?
[07:05] <OpenSorce> Hmmm... synaptic says it's going to remove all the 3.13.0-55 stuff... but it also says it's removing "linux-generic"
[07:05] <wolft> EriC^^: I landed at a prompt instead of GUI, Grub menu looked different, it showed only Ubuntu and not multiple options
[07:05] <wolft> EriC^^: I'm at my home prompt now
[07:06] <EriC^^> wolft: ok, which install is it?
[07:06] <EriC^^> type cat /etc/fstab
[07:07] <wolft> EriC^^: looks like I'm on the correct sda!
[07:07] <wolft> EriC^^: now I just need to get x running actually, get to the regular system
[07:08] <EriC^^> try sudo service lightdm restart
[07:09] <jak2000> yes i see DCIM folder, 100Apple, 101Apple, 102Apple and others
[07:09] <EriC^^> jak2000: ok, click on DCIM
[07:09] <wolft> EriC^^: to be clear, I have kdm and kde on this install, though it isn't a different distro
[07:09] <jak2000> this folders contains photos
[07:09] <EriC^^> should also have .avi which are videos
[07:09] <wolft> EriC^^: I tried that with kdm, fot a process number
[07:09] <PanV> EriC^^, I srsly need your help
[07:09] <EriC^^> jak2000: i mean .MOV
[07:10] <jak2000> i am copied (removed) from here (moved to a USB memory) but videos not see
[07:10] <wolft> weird lightdm worked sorta
[07:10] <PanV> Is anybody here who can help with remotes?
[07:10] <PanV> *controllers
[07:10] <EriC^^> wolft: what did it say?
[07:10] <PanV> EriC^^,
[07:10] <PanV> I need your help :P
[07:10] <wolft> EriC^^: looks like I have a problem with mounting /tmp
[07:10] <jak2000> EriC^^ where is mounted?
[07:11] <EriC^^> wolft: /var/log/kdm should have info about the problem
[07:11] <wolft> EriC^^: it says to check my installation
[07:12] <wolft> EriC^^: no such file or directory
[07:13] <EriC^^> jak2000: try to search for .mov files maybe
[07:13] <EriC^^> this is your fstab right? http://termbin.com/wraj
[07:13] <EriC^^> in the current install that's booted
[07:14] <jak2000> EriC^^ where is mounted?
[07:14] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows a way to open PSD files on linux and get the fonts etc?
[07:14] <wolft> EriC^^: right
[07:15] <EriC^^> jak2000: where is what mounted?
[07:15] <PanV> !test
[07:15] <PanV> !test | PanV
[07:15] <PanV> Guys can you hear me? I think something is wrong with IRC
[07:16] <wolft> EriC^^: Sorry to be antsy, I need to go to sleep, but we're close, things are mostly working (mounted / on sda) but I can't get my regular system back now
[07:17] <EriC^^> wolft: ok
[07:18] <wolft> EriC^^: any ideas how to get the GUI back?
[07:18] <EriC^^> wolft: try to reinstall kubuntu/kdm
[07:19] <wolft> EriC^^: you mean reinstall the OS?
[07:19] <EriC^^> not the metapackage
[07:19] <EriC^^> *no
[07:19] <EriC^^> wolft: i think it uses lightdm
[07:20] <EriC^^> try sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:20] <wolft> EriC^^: I'm actually on KXStudio, a slightly mofidied Ubuntu, it normally uses kdm
[07:20] <jak2000> the ipad where is mounted?
[07:20] <EriC^^> jak2000: in nautilus
[07:20] <wolft> EriC^^: tm6m
[07:21] <ianorlin> EriC^^: kubuntu 15.04 uses sddm I think
[07:21] <OpenSorce> EriC^^, my solution was to use synaptic to mark all the recently updated kernel packages for re-install. Worked like a charm
[07:21] <wtm_iphone> sudo service lightdm start
[07:21] <wolft> ianorlin: I'm on KXStudio 14.04 which is Ubuntu 14.04 really
[07:22] <wolft> what's the command for reinstalling something? like kdm...
[07:22] <EriC^^> wolft: i think you're using lightdm
[07:22] <EriC^^> type apt-cache policy lightdm
[07:22] <EriC^^> wolft: you're using it
[07:23] <EriC^^> OpenSorce: great
[07:23] <wolft> EriC^^: when I had problems before "sudo restart kdm" worked...
[07:23] <wolft> EriC^^: lightdm brought up a log-in screen I've never seen
[07:23] <wtm_iphone> what is the matter?
[07:24] <EriC^^> wolft: ok, try sudo service lightdm stop
[07:24] <EriC^^> which ubuntu version are you using?
[07:24] <wolft> EriC^^: stop: unknown instance:
[07:24] <EriC^^> 14.04?
[07:25] <wolft> EriC^^: yeah 14.04
[07:25] <EriC^^> ok, if you're sure you're using kubuntu
[07:25] <wolft> EriC^^: I am *not* using Kubuntu
[07:25] <EriC^^> the problem now is that you're not using an official ubuntu, so we're guessing randomly
[07:26] <wolft> EriC^^: I am using KXStudio
[07:26] <wolft> EriC^^: And I am sure it uses kdm
[07:26] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo service kdm restart
[07:26] <wolft> EriC^^: and it identifies as just Ubuntu because it is literally Ubuntu with some extra packages
[07:26] <wtm_iphone>
[07:26] <EriC^^> wolft: actually not
[07:26] <wtm_iphone>
[07:26] <wtm_iphone>
[07:26] <EriC^^> !derivatives | wolft
[07:27] <wolft> EriC^^: I understand but it's not as formally distinct a distro like those others
[07:27] <bruttoecattivo> hi
[07:27] <wolft> EriC^^: but that's fair still
[07:27] <wolft> EriC^^: but really it is Ubuntu with some PPAs added
[07:28] <wolft> not a distinct thing like Mint
[07:28] <EriC^^> ok, does it use the kubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[07:28] <wolft> it might, how do I check?
[07:28] <EriC^^> as i said you could reinstall it and it could fix some issues
[07:29] <EriC^^> type apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop
[07:29] <wolft> yeah, what's the re-install command?
[07:29] <EriC^^> well you could install some packages it depends on as well
[07:30] <EriC^^> apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop | awk '/Depends/ {print$2}' | sudo xargs -y install --reinstall
[07:30] <EriC^^> type that
[07:31] <jak2000> other question, my ubuntu 14.04 (installed in a laptop toshiba) crashed, and i need press button power off for restart the lap, how to know more details, why? thanks
[07:31] <EriC^^> apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop | awk '/Depends/ {print$2}' | sudo xargs apt-get -y install --reinstall
[07:31] <EriC^^> sorry had a typo wolft
[07:32] <wolft> EriC^^: I really really appreciate the help, but I have to get to sleep now, will try more in the morning or go and reinstall my OS...
[07:39] <wrapper> Hi 14.04.02 does not work with some laptops, ie sony vaio - I can download kubuntu 14.04.01 why not Ubuntu?
[07:40] <confrey> hi everybody
[07:41] <jak2000> other question, my ubuntu 14.04 (installed in a laptop toshiba) crashed, and i need press button power off for restart the lap, how to know more details, why? thanks
[07:44] <EriC^^> wolft: sorry, i got dc
[07:44] <EriC^^> anyways, as you wish
[07:45] <chaitime> sup
[07:45] <wrapper> FYI - sony vaio are deliberately fixed to be windows only, I have spent hours getting linux on, 14.04.02 does not work, 15.04 does not work because the wifi is broke
[07:45] <chaitime> can someone help unban me from #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:46] <wrapper> Hi Jak - press esc on boot from the DVD - press F6 - then add reboot=bios to grub
[07:46] <confrey> just installed 15.04-mate, my wifi has a weird behaviour : I get 8.5 Mbps download and 18 Mbps upload, adapter is a AR9565, no problem about router : my android phone gets about 39 Mbps download and 18 upload, I don't know why my wifi adapter is not performing well in downloading, idea?
[07:46] <wrapper> if that don't work, try reboot=PCI or reboot=force
[07:46]  * chaitime crushes wrapper
[07:48] <somsip> chaitime: if you need to be unbanned, you should ask in #ubuntu-ops. You should also avoid silly messages like the last one you posted
[07:48] <joachimhs> I am planning on launching a web service later this year, and I am trying to select an appropriate OS. The servers will either be database-backend (so OS on bare metal), or frontend (virtual machines of some sort). I have quite a bit of experience in Linux via the Raspberry Pi and Raspian/Debian. But I often hear CentOS as proclaimed the best for running production servers. On the other hand, the release schedule and features that go into
[07:48] <joachimhs> Ubuntu Server looks quite appealing...  Any thoughts in this regard would be appreciated :)
[07:48] <chaitime> thanks somsip haram zada
[07:48] <somsip> joachimhs: it's the Ubuntu support channel, so we talk about Ubuntu support. If you want general advice, try #linux
[07:49] <joachimhs> somsip: ok, thanks :)
[07:49] <somsip> chaitime: insults will not get you unbanned either
[07:49] <Lope> I'm running ubuntu 14.04 trusty, and I wanted to run a newer virt-manager (>=1.0). First I checked trusty-backports, but that doesn't have virt-manager. Then I added the utopic sources and preferences for apt. http://pasted.co/a3ba6210
[07:49] <wrapper> OK I will ask again, who do I contact to tell Ubuntu 14.04.01 .not. = 14.04.02 please supply the opriginal download or torrent?
[07:49] <chaitime> somsip, you know gujurati?
[07:50] <Lope> I was able to install the newer version of virt-manager from utopic on trusty, but now when I run apt-get upgrade apt wants to upgrade basically every package on my entire system. What's up?
[07:51] <wrapper> Ok sony won, I'll put Kubuntu 14.04.01 on it
[07:52] <debian88811> ATTENZIONE: Non e' stata intercettata la versione originale di lynx.
[07:52] <debian88811> Questo script e' in grado di funzionare sono con lynx e non links2.
[08:05] <Phveektor> I saw online some weeks back that linux kernel 4 is out, can someone ppls educate me on its advantages?
[08:05] <somsip> Phveektor: www.kernel.org is the best place to read up on it
[08:05] <Phveektor> Thnx
[08:06] <Dbugger> Good morning, my people
[08:07] <Lope> can someone please help me with running utopic packages on trusty?
[08:07] <gagalicious> i have multiple monitors... how do i use yakuake... such that each monitor will display it's own yakuake by pressing F12? currently, when i press F12. only the main monitor shows regardless of which monitor my mouse is at
[08:17] <Thrival> hello everyone. What is the best IRC client for Ubuntu?
[08:17] <jak2000> http://pastie.org/10252602  anyone can help me, why my laptop crash i want to know
[08:18] <ubu> Thrival, hexchat
[08:19] <Thrival> Thank you, Ubu
[08:21] <ubu> Thrival: in Hexchat u can turn off all of these notification messages,  (when people join/quit/change names, etc)  so that it is ONLY messages that u see
[08:21] <dw1> irssi :D
[08:22] <ubu> Thrival: Settings > preferences > general > turn-off-join-messages  & nickname-switch
[08:22] <Lope> can someone help please? why does apt want to upgrade my entire trusty install to utopic? http://pasted.co/424ac6c9
[08:23] <Dbugger> If I have a forwarding rule in "if-pre-up.d/iptablesload", will it run before or after passing the firewall?
[08:24] <nibbler> Dbugger: as part of the firewall?
[08:24] <Phveektor> Lope: guess u're running an old or unstable version
[08:26] <Dbugger> nibbler, what do you mean?
[08:26] <Lope> no I'm running trusty.
[08:28] <ubu> Lope: not sure about ur problem.   But now in Ubuntu, u can just type "apt"  instead of "apt-get".  It's a shortcut that applies to most stuff.  type "man apt" for more info
[08:29] <pandb> anyone want to see what I did with perl + python + SYSV message queues + icecast?
[08:29] <pandb> http://laoche.caster.fm/
[08:34] <Lope> okay, fixed it. Added this to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00default-release APT::Default-Release "trusty";
[08:41] <family> is there somebody
[08:46] <Lope> I think there are numerous bodies.
[08:55] <lyn> hello
[08:55] <lyn> someone here?
[08:56] <lyn> anyone else?
[08:56] <hateball> !ask | lyn
[08:56] <Dbugger> I have this rule in ufw "after.rule": "-A POSTROUTING --dport 80 -j REDIRECT -s <IP_ADDRESS>". What I try to do is forward all incoming through port 80 to <IP_ADDRESS>, but I get this error: `iptables-restore v1.4.21: unknown option "--dport"`. What did I do wrong?
[08:57] <lyn> sorry
[09:05] <tibrox> dropbox is borked for me on ubuntu 14.04.  I've tried via repo (will only run via su - ).  When I install headless I need to run as ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd & .  Ticking the setting in the daemon icon doesn't help either
[09:05] <tibrox> I'm about at my wits end!
[09:21] <RealPanV> Guys. can you help?
[09:23] <edward__> i have added my user to new group but the group is not listed in nautilus permission tab
[09:25] <RealPanV> Could I have some help?
[09:25] <RealPanV> Please?
[09:25] <RealPanV> I am waiting like a whole day.
[09:25] <edward__> i have added my user to new group but the group is not listed in nautilus permission tab
[09:27] <bojan> Hi buddies i have a doubt that i am working as linux admin for past two years without done any certification..I want to move to next level..But i dont know what will be the next level to study and also the openings about..Can anyone pls guide me anout this ??
[09:32] <scx> hello
[09:32] <scx> Is "ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso" LiveDVD image?
[09:33] <k1l_> yes
[09:34] <scx> k1l_: thanks
[09:34] <RealPanV> http://askubuntu.com/questions/639223/problem-with-controller-from-a-local-manufactor-on-15-04 I need help with that
[09:43] <RealPanV> Hey http://askubuntu.com/questions/639223/problem-with-controller-from-a-local-manufactor-on-15-04 This controller is making my life hard. Please read this post which asys everything and help me
[09:48] <RealPanV> Why people ignore me today?
[09:48] <family> problem is hard
[09:48] <mmc> hello everyone
[09:49] <mmc> i installed ubuntu-gnome 14.04.1 on my laptop but i have a big problem with gnome-shell process
[09:49] <DJJeff> I use ubuntu linux to reverse virus and malware does that make me a failure and a looser
[09:50] <mmc> gnome shell process 100% or more usage   please help me to solve it
[09:50] <DJJeff> just yesterday I find botnets that hackers use to ddos people with
[09:51] <DJJeff> I recorded my terminal session and put it online
[09:51] <DJJeff> https://asciinema.org/a/5uxrwlsed1vcclcxb99vtwx5b
[09:51] <DJJeff> *giggles*
[09:51] <k1l_> DJJeff: that better suits into the #ubuntu-offtopic channel. this is ubuntu support only
[09:52] <DJJeff> ok you are right IT Security is off topic and very boring
[09:53] <k1l_> DJJeff: your attitude is not wanted in here and intentional offtopic is unfair to the users joining this channel to get help. now you are  muted.
[10:01] <stupify> Hello, world?
[10:02] <OerHeks> hi stupify
[10:02] <stupify> Oh, wow.
[10:02] <xtpeeps> lol
[10:02] <stupify> I'm searching for a bit of help with lightdm greeting
[10:02] <svetlana> hello, stupify
[10:02] <stupify> i'm on xubuntu 14 and trying to change the wallpaper
[10:03] <stupify> Yet somehow changes in confs doesn't do anything
[10:03] <stupify> I have these two files:
[10:03] <stupify> http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/screenshot-22062015-124603.php
[10:03] <stupify> And set each to be like this: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-22062015-124911.php
[10:04] <stupify> Still I get default xubuntu picture on login
[10:04] <stupify> Only if i delete these files completely, something changes - everything start looking blocky and w95-like
[10:05] <stupify> So please share if you have some insights.
[10:05] <stupify> *wallpaper for login screen
[10:07] <OerHeks> stupify, all i see are 2 .png commented out with #
[10:07] <OerHeks> and the 1st screenshot is so small, cannot read anything
[10:08] <stupify> hm. maybe I did smth wrong with screenshots
[10:08] <stupify> I'll check that...
[10:11] <wrapper> Hi 14.04.02 does not work with some laptops, i.e sony vaio - I can download kubuntu 14.04.01 where can I get Ubuntu 14.04.01?
[10:12] <mmc> wrapper  : does it support UEFI ?
[10:12] <wrapper> no it is older
[10:13] <RealPanV> Can I take some attention? Since I want  a solution soon?
[10:13] <wrapper> I am back from an hour ago no reply
[10:13] <OerHeks> wrapper, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[10:14] <wrapper> cheers that looks like it
[10:14] <OerHeks> RealPanV, you might want to add some info about your joypad, open terminal: lsusb # and paste the line from your pad in your askubuntu post.
[10:14] <RealPanV> Okay thanks
[10:15] <OerHeks> RealPanV, i wonder if that pad is compliant, if it needs a special driver in windows, you have to write a special driver file in linux too.
[10:15] <OerHeks> else i don't know
[10:15] <RealPanV> I bet it didnt have drivers
[10:15] <mmc> why does gnome-shell use 100% - 150% cpu in Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[10:16] <OerHeks> mmc hard to say, open terminal : top # and see what procvess is hanging/ see if there are zombie processes
[10:16] <OerHeks> *process
[10:17] <RealPanV> Done
[10:17] <Semiarty> well, It's not a macos chan, but I hope someone still will be able to help me out as its also unix based iirc, so if I do ssh through terminal (to Univeristy network) and then open a website with browser from command line, will I connect to that website from the Uni network? or my local one
[10:19] <OerHeks> Semiarty, join ##apple for support, i can only give a wild guess: your local browser
[10:19] <vikthor> hi
[10:19] <vikthor> I have a problem
[10:20] <vikthor> my os ssd is not recognize animore after a hard reboot
[10:20] <vikthor> I try to reboot with boot-repair-disk
[10:21] <vikthor> and G-parted doesn't show my ssd, but my hdd yes
[10:21] <vikthor> what can I do?
[10:21] <k1l_> see in bios if the ssd is seen there at all
[10:22] <vikthor> yes it doesn't show...
[10:22] <k1l_> so maybe its a hardware failure. check if the cables are ok. and maybe check if it works on another pc
[10:23] <k1l_> but if its not seen in bios, than its a hardware failure.
[10:30] <vikthor> l
[10:30] <vikthor> lll
[10:37] <archheretic> Hi, I was wondering, do anyone here know if upgrading my windows 7 to windows 10 will affect my ubuntu partition?
[10:38] <xyzzy__> I might be wrong but I don't think it does unless it overwrites grub somehow. Not sure but that's my guess.
[10:38] <IceBot3000> archheretic: Should be fine, as you're doing an upgrade it leaves the partitions alone
[10:38] <RealPanV> BAck OerHeks
[10:39] <RealPanV> NiceColorCode
[10:40] <archheretic> yes that was my though too, worst case scenario it overwrites grub
[10:40] <archheretic> but that is fixable
[10:40] <xyzzy__> In which case, just boot a recovery disc and fixmbr
[10:40] <xyzzy__> no wait... that's if you're getting rid of the ubuntu partition
[10:40] <xyzzy__> nevermind me
[10:40] <IceBot3000> Most computers now don't have a disc drive
[10:41] <xyzzy__> USB bootable
[10:52] <Offer> Hi guys, does anybody know how to quick fix win mbr from root terminal?
[10:52] <k1l_> Offer: use a windows cd.
[10:53] <Offer> ok, is there a tiny win.iso for ?
[10:54] <k1l_> Offer: you want the windows bootloader to be repaired? you will nee a windows cd/usb and the help of ##windows
[10:55] <norbert> does Ubuntu 15.04 not have Steam? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/steam-launcher/
[10:55] <norbert> one cannot apt-get install it?
[10:55] <android_develope> This is not on topic here, but I know that Fedora 20 will reach EOL in 24 hours
[10:55] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:55] <Offer> Thanks, i'll
[10:56] <k1l_> android_develope: you are right, its not topic in here :)
[10:56] <IceBot3000> Fedora? *tips hat*
[10:56] <k1l_> !info steam | norbert
[10:56] <android_develope> Top o' the morning (or night) to ya :)
[10:57] <k1l_> norbert: so make sure multiverse is enabled, then install the package "steam"
[10:57] <android_develope> Yes, it is apt-get install steam
[10:57] <norbert> k1l_: alrighty
[11:10] <Vortexza> Hello all, I have a Nvidia 850M but I am not too sure as to which driver to install? I installed the wrong one yesterday and my ubuntu wouldn't recognize my screens and I had to repair in the console. Any ideas?
[11:10] <Vortexza> It's a laptop GPU
[11:12] <k1l_> Vortexza: what ubuntu is it? and what driver did you test?
[11:13] <ubuntu127> hi all
[11:14] <ubuntu127> i need some help to compile the following library https://github.com/MattNapsAlot/webstor on Ubuntu 14.04.2.
[11:14] <ubuntu127> i have installed the required libraries
[11:15] <ubuntu127> but when i run make i get the following errror
[11:16] <Ben64> ubuntu127: you should contact the developer for help with it
[11:16] <IceBot3000> Ben64: How is it the original authors role to help a newcomer learn about compiling?
[11:17] <ubuntu127> Ben64 yes i know i tried here because i need a quick help
[11:18] <ubuntu127> also because i think it is a problem related to my ubuntu installation because i already managed to compile the library on another pc
[11:19] <k1l_> !paste | ubuntu127 put the whole errors there
[11:19] <Ben64> IceBot3000: it hasn't been touched on github since 2012
[11:20] <ubuntu127> ubottu thank you this is my error http://paste.ubuntu.com/11756166/
[11:24] <murcha> any idea for a sequential backup script on ubuntu?
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> murcha  better ask in #bash
[11:25] <murcha> MonkeyDust: thanks
[11:31] <wrapper> Hi I asked earlier where I could find Ubuntu 14.04.01 because 14.04.02 does not work with some laptops (sony Vaio) because they are ment for windows. I was directed to Kubuntu which I already know about
[11:32] <OerHeks> wrapper, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ but your request is useless, any update will bring you to 14.04.2
[11:33] <wrapper> ?? i can update - they won't install
[11:33] <OerHeks> oh ubuntu, nope, cannot find that one, which is good btw
[11:33] <wrapper> Sony have made it difficult (impossible ) to load linux easy
[11:33] <IceBot3000> Then why are you buying Sony hardware?
[11:34] <wrapper> I am poor and they are cheep second hand
[11:34] <wrapper> I update old hardware to linux and pass it on to other noobs
[11:34] <wrapper> before i was disabled I was a PhD
[11:34] <wrapper> so it is interesting doin hard stuff
[11:35] <Johnny_Linux> was it in english ??
[11:35] <wrapper> it is UK or USA
[11:36] <hateball> OerHeks: the ubuntu image repo looks the same as kubuntus to me http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[11:36] <hateball> as in there is 14.04, and 14.04.1 etc
[11:36] <fullday> CIAO
[11:36] <fullday> ciao
[11:37] <OerHeks> hateball, sure, but i see no desktop 14.04.1/ amd64/i386
[11:37] <wrapper> Thanks - shame there is not a link to that on the download page
[11:37] <OerHeks> only desktop-amd64+mac
[11:37] <wrapper> bugger
[11:38] <hateball> that's what you want
[11:38] <OerHeks> not even the torrent http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[11:38] <hateball> OerHeks: the files still exist tho
[11:38] <OerHeks> hateball, give it to hm then? .. i don't see it
[11:38] <hateball> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[11:38] <OerHeks> + mac iso, wrong one
[11:40] <wrapper> I'll try it if its the only one, bit weird to do that tho'
[11:41] <hateball> OerHeks: ah that's right, my bad
[11:42] <wrapper> I'll post back as soon as I've tried it we'll know for sure...
[11:46] <knob> Hello everyone.  Something happened with one my laptops.  Maybe I powered it off without a shutdown.  Not sure.      The problem is now, when I boot her up, instead of going straight to the WindowManager (Desktop Environment?), she goes into the command line.     She says she is in "Emergency mode".  If I type    systemctl default , she goes into the Desktop Environment just fine.   Yet on a reboot, she does it again.
[11:47] <knob> How can I get "out" of this?   Do I have to run a check command on the disk, or something?  Not sure what to do
[11:52] <zack_s_> how can I connect via ftp to ubuntu server?
[11:53] <sarath> hello
[11:54] <knob> zack_s_, do you have ssh installed on the server?
[11:54] <Guest94291> ??
[11:54] <knob> The computer that you want to use to connect to the server... is it linux? Windows? Mac?
[11:54] <Metalerfag> sop sop
[11:54] <Metalerfag> MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
[11:54] <Metalerfag> YESSSSSSSSSSSS
[11:54] <Metalerfag> FUCK MY ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[11:54] <Metalerfag> CUM IN IT
[11:55] <Guest94291> perverted ubuntu
[11:55] <Guest94291> mallus?
[11:57] <sarath_> sarath
[11:59] <sarath_> friend
[12:00] <Vespero> So, I have an exfat harddrive, and when I try to symlink to a folder on it, I get the error "Error making symbolic link: Function not implemented," which doesn't show up on Google
[12:01] <Vespero> My brother (who is generally better at this stuff) said that he doesn't think the drive format has anything to do with it
[12:01] <Vespero> but I have no idea why I wouldn't be able to symlink
[12:04] <HexaByte> Hi guys, by mistaka I have just deleted /etc/local on Ubuntu 12.*. I have no idea what it is for, so I would appreciate if someone could pastebin contents of his /etc/local, so i can re-create it.
[12:04] <HexaByte> preferrably fom 12.04 LTS
[12:05] <chao> you version is not the same as me
[12:05]  * nomic doesn't see a local
[12:05] <SCHAAP137> don't you mean /etc/rc.local ?
[12:10] <rubber_johnny> sup
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> rubber_johnny: how can we help you?
[12:11] <rubber_johnny> I'm fine, thanks, just wasn't sure if my client is working correctly since I only saw an empty buffer, sorry for the inconvenience
[12:15] <HexaByte> tnx guys for the answer
[12:15] <HexaByte> i guess I have not rewritten anything
[12:15] <HexaByte> :-)
[12:17] <zack_s_> knob: sorry, I want to connect from windows, ssh is installed
[12:17] <zack_s_> the server is ubuntu 14.04.2
[12:17] <knob> zack_s_, have you tried with FileZilla?
[12:17] <zack_s_> I have tried with notepad++
[12:18] <knob> zack_s_, here is the thing.    Your server might not have ftp installed.   Yet, you can connect via ssh to it (sftp)... which it already does have installed, and it's actually secure (unlike ftp).
[12:18] <knob> This is really simple, not complicated.   The thing is, Notepad++ is trying to connect using ftp
[12:18] <knob> You have to tell it to use ssh
[12:19] <knob> I am going to check if notepadd++ has ssh
[12:19] <zack_s_> knob: it has sftp
[12:19] <knob> try you connection with that
[12:19] <zack_s_> and FTPES and FTPS as connection typ
[12:19] <knob> Yet, where do you see it?  I just opened Notepadd++... and can't see it
[12:20] <knob> try sftp fist...
[12:20] <knob> first
[12:20] <knob> easiest
[12:20] <MichaelTiebesl> hi there. i refuse the first time google+ to launch an "app" in unity. now it is not more available. how can i add in to the unity launcher?
[12:20] <zack_s_> knob: this works
[12:20] <zack_s_> thx
[12:21] <knob> awesome