[07:18] <ManDay> ah, whats the shortcut for marking a package as COMPLETE removal then? "Del" marks for removal
[07:18] <iNutshell> schiggy: is it checked ?
[07:18] <pangloss> exit
[07:19] <schiggy> no, it isn't checked
[07:19] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: I have no idea, but it can't be pre-2004
[07:19] <orange-wedge> vertix got to get back to work... but will check the iso file shortly
[07:19] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: Tungsten Graphics
[07:20] <iamtechno> CPUFreak91: Just a second I got a hunch
[07:20] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: OpenGL Renderer String: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 852GM/855GM
[07:21] <chipgeri> how do i enable 3d mode in inbuilt chess? it says no  python opengl support...how do i install it?
[07:21] <iNutshell> schiggy: oh...
[07:21] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: hehe, I think you're right. The OpenGL renderer string has x86 MMX and SSE2 in it
[07:21] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: well I turned off the compiz special effects settings before the computer overheated and rebooted
[07:22] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: and it's not slowing down any more with several apps open like it used to
[07:22] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: still though, I'm interested in your hunch ;)
[07:23] <indian_munnda> hi guys, i have installed vitrualbox to run *.vmdk file in it. But when i start virtual box i gives a error "VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED).". Can anyone help???
[07:23] <doc``> how do i install a 32bit java jdk ? trying to use gwt
[07:24] <simplexio> indian_munnda: no knowledge, but quess is that you need vmbox host drivers
[07:24] <yaris123456789> a windows software running in wine has frozen ...what to do ?
[07:25] <indian_munnda> simplexio: it says "The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason"
[07:25] <arunreddy> Need some help :  laptop integrated web cam not working with cheese,  Ubuntu Jaunty Amd 64 , says no camera found.
[07:25] <vertix> orange-wedge, hey, bt looks quite allright, but the did not add the maximize title button, what a pity, otherwise looks like a reasonable client
[07:25] <indian_munnda> simplexio: i even install generic modules
[07:25] <CPUFreak91> yaris123456789: Wine has problably frozen. I press Alt + F2 and type xkill and click on the windows app
[07:25] <CPUFreak91> to free things up
[07:25] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:yea id like to get you off that but could you please give more details aboout the error
[07:25] <albech> what would be the easiest way to route all port 80 traffic of a network through a remote proxy?
[07:26] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: yes dude why not wait a sec
[07:26] <yaris123456789> CPUFreak91: thanks!
[07:26] <vertix> maaaan, they have 256 seeders! weow myau myau
[07:26] <indian_munnda> !pastebin
[07:26] <CPUFreak91> vertix: A perfect power of 2 ;)
[07:27] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:ok
[07:27] <vertix> actually true :)
[07:27] <vertix> its called 2 of us
[07:27] <yaris123456789> hey guys im having some weird issues trying to watch youtube. first theres a large grey area with a play button that i have to click inorder to view the youtube video player. when the video plays its very poor quality, like squares and stuff. same video showed fine in windows. also, the mute and volume button on youtube seems to not function
[07:27] <iamtechno> CPUFreak91: My hunch is that when you're laptop is defaulting to software rendering because your drivers are not installed correctly, using the wrong drivers, or DRI is not enabled
[07:28] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: see this dude http://paste.ubuntu.com/171308/
[07:28] <iNutshell> albech: iptables ?
[07:28] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: glxinfo tells me that direct rendering is enabled
[07:28] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:ok dude,im on it
[07:28] <vertix> maaan, if this 9.04 does not weik as advertized, ima gonna release all those rootkits on you! grrr :)
[07:29] <mzuverink> 32 bit firefox on a 64 bit insta, how to anyone, please respond with link or if not possible
[07:29] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: when i run virtual box i get this error
[07:29] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: but you're right the drivers are probably messed up. I'll try to remedy those tomorrow. Thanks for your help!
[07:29] <CPUFreak91> mzuverink: why do you need 32-bit firefox?
[07:29] <albech> iNutshell, can i tell iptables to forward all traffic width destination port 80 to be changed to port 3128 on my proxyserver?
[07:29] <iamtechno> CPUFreak91: yw. Its only a hunch. you might try installing Intel's drivers.
[07:29] <fantasai> I have a laptop that's 1400x900 and I have connected it to an LCD monitor that is 1680x1050. I want to use the monitor at 1680x1050, but Ubuntu seems to insist on keeping it at 1162x864: even when I manage to set the resolution correctly with xrandr, it insists on keeping the screen that size (thus using only part of the monitor).
[07:30] <vertix> hey, anybody wants a truckload of rootkits, top kwality?
[07:30] <iamtechno> CPUFreak91: OOOOOOh almost forgot are you using UXA by chance?
[07:30] <fantasai> This worked fine with 8.04
[07:30] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: alright. I'll start there and remember not to turn on anything OpenGL until I fix this ;)
[07:30] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: UXA?
[07:30] <iNutshell> albech: maybe， the 80 port is on localhost ?
[07:30] <mzuverink> CPUFreak91, seems icedtea java is a slow slow monster, want to use sun java
[07:30] <iNutshell> albech: or to remote host
[07:31] <CPUFreak91> mzuverink: Weird. I used 64-bit Ubuntu and never had a problem with the default Java
[07:31] <CPUFreak91> mzuverink: tho I don't know what kind of java it was that I was using ;)
[07:31] <CPUFreak91> mzuverink: I presume you mean the java packages for development, right?
[07:32] <chipgeri> how do i enable 3d mode in inbuilt chess? it says no  python opengl support...how do i install it?
[07:32] <vertix> orange-wedge, hey, i am beginning to smell something different, thanx for your help, i owe ya
[07:32] <mzuverink> CPUFreak91, the packages of the standard repos
[07:32] <iamtechno> CPUFreak91: Its the newest acceleration arch from Intel. most if not all the rest have XAA, intel used to have EXA and now intel has UXA
[07:32] <CPUFreak91> chipgeri: start the package manager and search for python-opengl and see if it's installed
[07:32] <mzuverink> CPUFreak91, Ill figure it out later, was just looking for a how to
[07:32] <CPUFreak91> chipgeri: or start a terminal and type sudo apt-get install python-opengl
[07:32] <cpg> hi, i am trying to find out if a group of hard drives are sata 1 or sata 2 ... hdparm does not seem to do it (hear as i can tell). any way to do it?
[07:33] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:fine why dont you type this at the terminal sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup and tell me the output
[07:33] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: hmm. I honsetly don't know
[07:33] <CPUFreak91> I'll check into it
[07:33] <CPUFreak91> thanks again :)
[07:34] <iamtechno> CPUFreak91: pull up your xorg.conf file and check it for the words XAA, EXA, or UXA.
[07:34] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: grep reveals nothing for any of those :(
[07:35] <SkyNetMaster> hi, does anyone can advace some advance caclulator with log and antilog etc
[07:35] <chipgeri> CPUFreak91:its installed...but when i open the game it quits automatically
[07:35] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: it just gives this output yar  * Usage: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv {start|stop|restart|status}
[07:36] <CPUFreak91> how can I have a kernel module load at boot?
[07:36] <iamtechno> CPUFreak91: Hmmm I'm just as stumped as you are. Best as I can say is try reinstalling your video drivers or switch to using the Intel propriatery drivers
[07:36] <nmvictor> indian_munnda: are you sure you typed that   sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup ?
[07:37] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: I'll go to hell for that, but oh well ;)
[07:37] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: just a sec dude let me pastebin it
[07:37] <iamtechno> CPUFreak91: could you pastebin the output of ps aux
[07:38] <Livingroom> hey
[07:38] <Livingroom> listen up
[07:38] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: see this dude http://paste.ubuntu.com/171312/
[07:38] <Livingroom> atheros wifi card in a laptop. shitty terrible throughput. runs great on wired connection but all wireless has dropped packets and lags like a bitch. what do i do
[07:38] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: one sec
[07:38] <xso232> I've got some trouble ... o boy fresh install of ubuntu
[07:39] <Flannel> Livingroom: Please mind your language.
[07:39] <Livingroom> flannel: sorry, didnt know this was a family channel
[07:39] <xso232> what channel can I goto for support
[07:39] <Mylisto> does anyone know if there is a speech to text program for ubuntu?
[07:40] <tank-man> mylisto, fistival (?) and flite
[07:40] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: http://paste.ubuntu.com/171313
[07:41] <nelop> i need some help to update ubuntu
[07:41] <xso232> I installed Ubuntu and vista is not showing up in the boot loader :o
[07:41] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: you saw that?
[07:41] <vertix> is there any Usenet client for ubunto that can connect to multiple severs simultaneously (like hamster in windows)?
[07:42] <akshayshah> nelop: what, specifically, do you need help with?
[07:42] <Achelis> Hi room, Could any one help me in creating gfxboot theme
[07:42] <nelop> i am using ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn
[07:42] <Achelis> ?
[07:42] <nelop> thanks akshayshah
[07:42] <nelop> the thing is apt-get update
[07:42] <nelop> and synaptic don't work
[07:43] <arunreddy> Need some help :  laptop integrated web cam not working with cheese,  Ubuntu Jaunty Amd 64 , says no camera found.
[07:43] <akshayshah> nelop: no problem. What are you trying to upgrade to?
[07:43] <nelop> i just need to install some packages
[07:43] <SrEstroncio> hello everyone
[07:43] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:ok,type this at the terminal  uname -r,whatever the output,open sysnaptic and install a package linux-headers-<version-here>  where version here should be replace with what you uname -r gave.
[07:43] <SrEstroncio> i was wondering if someone could enlighten me on something
[07:43] <nelop> i am behind a proxy though and tried configuring it
[07:43] <Mylisto> tank-man: I need a speech to text...not text to speech
[07:44] <akshayshah> nelop: what happens when you type "sudo apt-get update"?
[07:44] <TheNano> nelop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[07:44] <nelop> i get all the sources 404 Not Found
[07:44] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:after that,repeat sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[07:44] <akshayshah> nelop: Follow the link above...
[07:44] <iamtechno> CPUFreak91: My be my hunch was wrong then because it seems IMHO tbird, firefox, and  especially xorg are relatively in spec.
[07:44] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: already installed dude
[07:44] <SrEstroncio> I am using a HP Pavilion dv5 laptop with an AMD 64 bits processor
[07:44] <Achelis> arunreddy, Who is your cam manufacturer?
[07:45] <chipgeri> when i open chess it closes automatically..how do i fix it?
[07:45] <SrEstroncio> and it makes a reallly high pitched beeep when I run ubuntu on it
[07:45] <SrEstroncio> kinda scares me
[07:45] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: do i need to installed al headers of that version or just generic or main one.
[07:45] <indian_munnda> ?
[07:45] <nelop> the thing is that apt-get doesn't work
[07:46] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:at the terminal
[07:46] <nmvictor> SrEstroncio:dont wonder if you should wonder,just wonder anyway whats the prob?
[07:46] <nelop> in ALL the sources it reads:
[07:46] <SrEstroncio> ohh
[07:46] <TheNano> nelop: sorry did't saw proxy thing , do you need to log in to the proxy also ?
[07:46] <SrEstroncio> Right now I am using windows
[07:46] <SrEstroncio> but
[07:46] <SrEstroncio> I installed ubuntu 8.10 a while ago
[07:46] <SrEstroncio> and 9.04 recently
[07:46] <SrEstroncio> the thing is
[07:46] <Achelis> hi room, how to create gfx boot theme?
[07:46] <SrEstroncio> my laptop makes a really scary beeping sound when running ubuntu
[07:47] <SrEstroncio> it's not coming from the speakers, it comes from inside the case
[07:47] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: installing.....
[07:47] <nelop> Failed to fetch http://.... 404 Not found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 8080]
[07:47] <SrEstroncio> not to mention kinda gets into your nerves after a whle
[07:47] <nelop> in all of the sources
[07:47] <iamtechno> CPUFreak91: I just ps aux'ed my machine at my firefox is at 0.5, 3.7 cpu, mem respectively. Of course I am running a waaaaaayyyy faster machine
[07:47] <KillGuta> Hello all
[07:48] <Achelis> SrEstroncio, open volume control
[07:48] <nelop> and TheNano, nope... i don't need to login to the proxy
[07:48] <KillGuta> How do I force an cd eject?
[07:48] <vertix> looks like transmission bt client is a high performance client. I am impressed
[07:48] <CPUFreak91> iamtechno: yeah, this is an old, single core 32-bit clunker
[07:48] <Vesayth> Hello all. I just upgraded my router's firmware to DD-WRT v24-sp2 (micro version). I'm having trouble getting it to forward port 80 correctly to my web server. I'm running apache2 on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit. It was running fine when I was using the stock Linksys firmware on the router. I can't seem to figure out what the problem is.
[07:48] <vertix> bandwidth utilization is about 99%
[07:48] <Achelis> SrEstroncio, select preferences and select check box pc beep
[07:48] <nelop> i tried to configure the proxy already in many different places
[07:48] <TheNano> nelop: I googled it and found if you don't need to, then you tell apt in /etc/apt/apt.conf to use you proxy server
[07:49] <SrEstroncio> Could someone give me an idea of what's causing my laptop to make a scary beeping sound when running ubuntu?
[07:49] <SrEstroncio> Archelis: Wait, what?
[07:49] <nelop> my apt.conf is listing the proxy
[07:49] <indian_munnda> KillGuta: press button on the cdrom. ;)
[07:49] <Livingroom> any suggestions for very bad performance of an atheros internal wifi card on a laptop?
[07:49] <vertix> uggggh, scary beeping sounds = no good!
[07:49] <TheShahFactor> Hello All!
[07:49] <nelop> but it's like apt-get and synaptic do NOT read apt.conf
[07:49] <KillGuta> indian_munnda: LOL, that doesn't work
[07:49] <KillGuta> Says something that he can't unmount
[07:49] <nelop> my apt.conf
[07:49] <nelop> reads
[07:50] <Achelis> SrEstroncio, did u read my previous comments?
[07:50] <SrEstroncio> Yes
[07:50] <SrEstroncio> but
[07:50] <nelop> Acquire::http::Proxy "http://proxy.kuins.net:8080";
[07:50] <TheShahFactor> I am looking to make my Ubuntu desktop look really good...What a nice app for that?
[07:50] <nelop> and yet, both don't work
[07:50] <Johnny_B_Good> hey, how can I update my firefox 3.0.10 to the newest version?
[07:50] <nelop> and i need to add packages
[07:50] <SrEstroncio> Could explain what's happening to me?
[07:50] <TheNano> nelop: if it is not working then maybe you could redirect your proxy by ntlmaps and use http://localhost:5865 as server in apt.conf
[07:50] <iamtechno> CPUFreak91: As far as specs my old machine was a little bit worse. I really didn't have much of a problem until I tried to run a game. I must point out that it was a desktop not a laptop.
[07:50] <SrEstroncio> or what's supposed to happen?
[07:51] <vertix> TheShahFactor, this is something new. i wish i had that app myself
[07:51] <Achelis> SrEstroncio, what ver. u r using?
[07:51] <nelop> ok
[07:51] <Achelis> version
[07:51] <Johnny_B_Good> hey, how can I update my firefox 3.0.10 to the newest version?
[07:51] <nelop> how do i use ntlmaps
[07:51] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:install both so you are sure you gave vboxdrv what it wants,i think the generic one is what it needs
[07:52] <indian_munnda> KillGuta: then i have one more option, there is a small hole in cdrom front side put a pin in that and press it in. cdrom will come out.
[07:52] <vertix> Johnny_B_Good, i thought that IS the latest version. or they got a new one last week?
[07:52] <vertix> Johnny_B_Good, you should be able to push help button i think
[07:52] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: generic was already installed i m installing others now
[07:52] <Achelis> SrEstroncio, just open volume control then select mute the pc beep
[07:52] <KillGuta> indian_munnda: Wow, I never realised that little hole :O
[07:52] <TheShahFactor> vertix give me something man..I am  bored looking at my non fancy-desktop
[07:52] <Johnny_B_Good> vertix, hmmm..ok...thank you anyway
[07:52] <indian_munnda> KillGuta: lol
[07:52] <marlun> How can I enable DRI after it has been disabled? It has been disabled since there were a bug with Intel graphics but it seems as if the bug has been fixed in an older package then I haveb ut DRI is still disabled.
[07:53] <TheNano> nelop: google , you can download the package in firefox and install it by dpkg then use it ant see what happens
[07:53] <nelop> ohhh yeap
[07:53] <nelop> let me try
[07:53] <vertix> Johnny_B_Good help -> check for updates
[07:54] <maxagaz> In which order the services are launched in Ubuntu ?
[07:54] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: its not working yar
[07:54] <TheNano> nelop: yes. i will not be here but 1432 other will be to help you again if you need later .. bye
[07:54] <SrEstroncio> Archelis: Sorry for the delay in answering, not used to IRC
[07:54] <SrEstroncio> Why is the PC beep intermitenly on?
[07:54] <SrEstroncio> and, I am using 9.04
[07:55] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: same output of sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[07:55] <nmvictor> killGuta:right click the CD on the desktop and select eject from the menu,you might have to unmount it first.
[07:55] <nmvictor> killGuta:right click the CD on the desktop and select eject from the menu,you might have to unmount it first.
[07:56] <Vesayth> I just upgraded my router's firmware to DD-WRT v24-sp2 (micro version). I'm having trouble getting it to forward port 80 correctly to my web server. I'm running apache2 on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit. It was running fine when I was using the stock Linksys firmware on the router. I can't seem to figure out what the problem is. Anyone have any ideas?
[07:56] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: u there dude?
[07:58] <nmvictor> whats version of virtual box do you have,im sorry my prepaid modem will be disconnecting us in a while
[07:58] <losher> maxagaz: it's complicated. It depends on the filenames in /etc/rc5.d among other things. Want to tell us why you need to know this?
[07:58] <xso232> Oh man, I've looked everywhere... all I can find is "Add Linux to Vista Bootloader" and I want to do the opposite
[07:59] <vertix> strange, some ppl with mtorrent are downloading ubunto 9.04. Is there mtorrent for ubuntu?
[07:59] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: 1.5.6_OSE
[08:00] <nelop> ok, here i go again
[08:00] <yaris123456789> hey guys in firefox all the flash are grey boxes with gian play button in the middle...what gives??
[08:00] <xso232> 9.04 update is about to finish and reboot - anyone have some quick tips they can tell me?
[08:00] <nelop> can somebody help me with proxy settings in apt-get
[08:00] <nelop> synaptics?
[08:00] <nelop> apt.conf has ben set up
[08:00] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: virtualbox version is 1.5.6_OSE
[08:01] <maxagaz> losher, i have a problem with mysql, i don't know why, but the owner of /var/run/mysqld is often changed from mysql to root (i suspect zoneminder), when this is changed, mysql can't run, and for some reason, the network service is not run too
[08:01] <syntax\> games menus disappeared? what should i do?
[08:02] <maxagaz> losher, if i could run the network serive before, at least i could have an access to the server from a remote computer
[08:03] <losher> maxagaz: the easiest fix might be to chown /var/run/mysqld from /etc/rc.local. That always runs last. As for no network service, can you start it by hand? Does it say anything unusual when you do?
[08:03] <nelop> somebody?
[08:03] <nelop> proxy solution?
[08:03] <nelop> nothing?
[08:03] <sacarlson> nelop: setup apt.conf like they tell you here?  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/55599-configuring-proxy-synaptic-package-manager-ubuntu.html
[08:03] <nmvictor> indian_munnda;maybe you need to reinstall virtual box with the new sysem settings
[08:03] <nmvictor> indian_munnda;tell me the outpu of cd /dev  gedit vboxdrv  i hope my modem can  hold a while longer
[08:03] <nmvictor> indian_munnda: cd /dev then   gedit vboxdrv
[08:04] <mib_s5fiwtmz> hi all , i need to confirm if i can install compiz and use it properly with my config : dell inspiron 6400 laptop with 1gb ram and this graphics controller : description: VGA compatible controller              product: Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller              vendor: Intel Corporation
[08:04] <nelop> sacarlson i did that already
[08:04] <indian_munnda> syntax\: right click on Applications and click on edit menus and then select ayou game menu from there
[08:04] <nelop> it doesn't work
[08:04] <chuck_> indian_munnda, thats a pretty old version i have 2.1.4
[08:04] <nmvictor> indian_munnda: sorry that wont work,thats a strict kernel file
[08:04] <nelop> apt.conf is correct
[08:05] <sacarlson> nelop: does your proxy work for your browser?
[08:05] <CoBaY_> -fr
[08:05] <nelop> and yet only 404 not found error
[08:05] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: you mean the command u just gave me?
[08:05] <nelop> yes it works
[08:05] <nelop> even right now that im using this irc
[08:05] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:did you receive any errors while installing virtual box?
[08:05] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: nopes
[08:05] <CoBaY_> hello
[08:05] <CoBaY_> my name is cobay :x
[08:06] <sacarlson> nelop: paste.ubuntu your apt.conf file
[08:06] <maxagaz> losher, when i start the network service by hand, it works fine
[08:06] <mib_s5fiwtmz> m using ubuntu 9.04 and i think compiz core comes by default with this version...so i've to install compiz-fusion, right? please guide me installing this...thanks
[08:06] <HasanNoori> Hi, i,m using ubuntu9.04 on Toshiba satellite pro s300-ez2501, but i cant hear any sound
[08:06] <CoBaY_> vous parler french ?
[08:06] <HasanNoori> it seems that unknown sound device
[08:07] <HasanNoori> help me please1
[08:07] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: no dude i didn't get any errors while installation of virtualbox
[08:07] <Stueh> Hello. I've got a small problem I'm trying to find a fix for. to connect to the internet, my laptop connects to a linksys WAP54G access point. This laptop is on pretty much 24/7 downloading. thing is, seemingly randomly, the wireless drops out. Ubuntu will say it is connected, but I cannot even ping the AP. I cannot refresh the connection etc. and the only way to get a connection back is to reboot.
[08:07] <Stueh> Does anyone know of a way to automatically fix the connection without having to reboot? Perhaps a crontab entry as sudo that will do to the wireless card what happens during reboot?
[08:07] <losher> maxagaz: what about the output on the console at boot time. Does it give any indication of why networking doesn't start?
[08:07] <CoBaY_> il y a quelqu'un des français ?
[08:08] <losher> !fr | CoBaY_
[08:08] <maxagaz> losher, so you think i should add "/etc/init.d/networking restart" before exit 0 in /etc/rc.local ?
[08:08] <mib_s5fiwtmz> @hasan may be you have to install driver fro your hardware from toshiba guys site...just google out or check out thshiba site for dirver support in linux...you might get one
[08:08] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:and chuck_  is right,get the latest version,probably that obsolete versions doesnt have its proper configuration settings in jaunty
[08:08] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:download the .deb file from their website,forget that one in the Add/Remove, its too old
[08:08] <nelop> Acquire::http::Proxy "http://proxy.kuins.net:8080";
[08:08] <maxagaz> losher, i don't know, i didn't check it
[08:09] <losher> maxagaz: it would be harmless to do so, but without knowing why it fails first time, there's no guarantee it will fix the problem
[08:09] <HasanNoori> i searched for it but no suggestion
[08:09] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: u mean to download virtual box version?
[08:09] <losher> maxagaz: no harm in trying it though...
[08:09] <nelop> the other line is the same but with ftp
[08:09] <nelop> instead of http
[08:09] <HasanNoori> @mib, can u help me?
[08:09] <nelop> and that is all
[08:10] <sacarlson>  nelop: so it's just one line?
[08:10] <nelop> two lines
[08:10] <nelop> one for http
[08:10] <nelop> the other for ftp
[08:10] <nelop> nothing else
[08:10] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:download the latest .deb file from their website(should be http://www.virtualbox.org ) forget that one in the Add/Remove, its too old
[08:10] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:yea,the latest version
[08:11] <chuck_> Stueh,  There is an automatic connect button for wireless in network manager
[08:11] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: but i m on HARDY i haven't upgraded to jaunty
[08:11] <HasanNoori> I'm playing some music but no sound
[08:11] <vertix> Johnny_B_Good, why did you suggest dloading ubuntu 9.05 i386 vs AMD?
[08:12] <RHorse> HasanNoori that's how I listen to it
[08:12] <sacarlson>  nelop: well I asked to see them
[08:12] <Bob_Dole> anyone here successfully installed Unreal Tournament on Ubuntu 9.04?
[08:12] <nelop> how do i paste the whole file?
[08:12] <vertix> orange-wedge, why did you suggest dloading ubuntu 9.05 i386 vs AMD?
[08:12] <Bob_Dole> I'm trying to, but get: Verifying archive integrity...tail: cannot open `+6' for reading: No such file or directory
[08:12] <nelop> (although it's only two lines)
[08:13] <sacarlson>  nelop: if you think it will come out ok
[08:13] <nelop> (one for http, the other for ftp with the same address and same port)
[08:13] <HasanNoori> RHorse, I'm using ubuntu 9.04 at toshiba satellite pro s300-ez2501, but no sound
[08:13] <Vesayth> Still looking for help on this issue. I just upgraded my router's firmware to DD-WRT v24-sp2 (micro version). I'm having trouble getting it to forward port 80 correctly to my web server. I'm running apache2 on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit. It was running fine when I was using the stock Linksys firmware on the router. I can't seem to figure out what the problem is. Anyone have any ideas? I've played with all the DNSMasq settings I could, and I'm fresh o
[08:14] <nelop> nelson@mex-station:/etc/apt$ more apt.conf
[08:14] <nelop> Acquire::http::Proxy "http://proxy.kuins.net:8080";
[08:14] <nelop> Acquire::ftp::Proxy "ftp://proxy.kuins.net:8080";
[08:14] <indian_munnda> Bob_Dole: have ever installed half-life in ubuntu?
[08:14] <RHorse> HasanNoori have you flung it against the floor a couple of times?
[08:14] <Bob_Dole> indian_munnda, Nope. Don't own halflife
[08:14] <sacarlson>  nelop: I'm not sure this is working I see some kind of a face in the text
[08:14] <nmvictor> indian_munnda: just get the latest version for your hardy,doesnt hurt to have the latest version of whatever package just like everyone else
[08:14] <indian_munnda> Bob_Dole: ok
[08:14] <nelop> like emoticon?
[08:15] <kj4> Bob_Dole, hello, i voted for you in '94
[08:15] <Bob_Dole> Bob Dole!
[08:15] <ishmandoo> hey, i am using jaunty and scrolling in firefox is really slow
[08:15] <ishmandoo> does anyone know how to fix that problem?
[08:15] <kj4> sorry your wife lost her seat
[08:16] <Bob_Dole> Yeah :(
[08:16] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: i have started downloading vbox of jaunty version, will it work in hardy
[08:16] <RHorse> !sound | HasanNoori
[08:16] <losher> vesayth: I suggest you downgrade your router
[08:16] <Bob_Dole> ishmandoo, what hardware do you have?
[08:16] <kj4> i voted for her a few months ago, now that i think about it
[08:16] <ishmandoo> Bob_Dole: an integrated intel chip
[08:16] <ishmandoo> Bob_Dole: do you want the exact chip?
[08:16] <Bob_Dole> ishmandoo,  yeah
[08:16] <kj4> Bob_Dole, also, i enjoy your bananas and pineapples
[08:17] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: do u hear the login sound of ubuntu when you login in ubuntu?
[08:17] <Chr|s> !ot
[08:17] <ishmandoo> Bob_Dole: intel corporation 82801G, thanks a lot by the way
[08:17] <kj4> Bob_Dole, how's the gimpy arm doing?
[08:18] <Vesayth> losher: I upgraded my firmware so that I could put a stop to the maximum bandwidth usage my roommates use for limewire
[08:18] <vertix> !players | vertix
[08:18] <Bob_Dole> Same as always. ishmandoo I get the impression support was dropped for that...but I'm trying to verify now
[08:18] <Vesayth> losher: Unfortunately, the linksys firmware does not allow me to do that without blocking it alltogether
[08:18] <JymmmEMC> Running 9.04 on a Thinkpad T60. Internal is fine, but when I try to use external (solo) or both displays, then it can't detect the ext display and max res is 1024x768 but ext is capable of 1600x1200. Suggestions?
[08:19] <ishmandoo> Bob_Dole: is there any solution if support was dropped?
[08:19] <ishmandoo> can i roll back the driver?
[08:19] <xso232> my life is over since I installed ubuntu
[08:19] <d_OoO_b> hi. the firewall filters the keywords, so i cannot go through it. any proxy software can go through it? or any help? thanks
[08:19] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:might,with a little "sysem patches",bit if their aint for hardy then i would recommend the one for intrepid,they are just 6 months apart unlike jaunty which is a year and two months ahead of hardy
[08:19] <Bob_Dole> There's a new accel method for the older intel chips, I think it's not as good as the original support, but better than default... but has/had bugs.
[08:20] <losher> vesayth: sorry, but it doesn't sound like a Ubuntu problem. Try a different version of the firmware? Yours sounds broken. Port forwarding should just work, it's pretty damn basic
[08:20] <Gorlist> Morning, trying to get suspend working on Ubuntu 9.04 - shuts down fine and recovers when I press the power button - how can get wake from keyboard working?
[08:20] <Vesayth> losher: I'll try that. Do you know of any rooms that I can join for specific help with this stuff?
[08:20] <Gorlist> I found some topics but very old
[08:21] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: i think then upgrading the system is a better option. I'll update my system tonight. :P
[08:21] <losher> vesayth: google dd-wrt irc channel
[08:21] <ManDay> When I change my desktop on a freshly installed Ubuntu (!) I get an error:    "An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for gnome-panel. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly. Failed to contact configuration server, some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due ti a system crash... Details - 1:Could not send message to gconf d
[08:21] <ManDay> aemon; Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus))"
[08:21] <ManDay> What is the issue
[08:22] <ManDay> I admit I removed some programs tho
[08:22] <xso232> u know something's wrong with ubuntu when the only documentation u can find on configuring the bootloader for linux says "Use the Vista bootloader"
[08:22] <lexr> hello fellow linux users
[08:22] <HasanNoori> indian_munnda, no! no sound any where
[08:22] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:to intrepid,right?
[08:23] <xso232> I must now restart to complete the update
[08:23] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: wat if i update it to jaunty itself?
[08:23] <nmvictor> xso232:hey,just concerned,what the prob?
[08:24] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: ok then check whether your hardware is ok or not.
[08:24] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:you cant do that,violation of protocol
[08:24] <HasanNoori> indian_munnda, but how?
[08:24] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: sorry dude didn't get u?
[08:25] <HasanNoori> it worked at windows
[08:25] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: was the sound working before with this soundcard
[08:25] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: oh ok
[08:25] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: wat is the name of your soundcard
[08:26] <joemac> My CUPS is not working, can anyone help?
[08:26] <HasanNoori>  i don't know, how can find it's name?
[08:26] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:you can only upgrade from hardy to interpid or intrepid to jaunty,not hardy to intrepid or even gutsy to interpid,you get that order,just the way they were released is the way to upgrading
[08:27] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: oooo
[08:27] <HasanNoori> indian_munnda: how can identify sound card on ubuntu?
[08:27] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:sorry,not hardy to jaunty
[08:27] <troopperi> HasanNoori: type aplay -L to terminal
[08:27] <losher> vesayth: you're welcome, it was a pleasure...
[08:28] <nmvictor> ..ppppssss!!!
[08:28] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:...ppppssss!!!
[08:28] <HasanNoori> basiri@ali-laptop:~$ aplay -L
[08:28] <Bob_Dole> intel chips users might find this interesting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance
[08:28] <HasanNoori> front:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
[08:28] <HasanNoori>     HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog
[08:28] <HasanNoori>     Front speakers
[08:28] <HasanNoori> surround40:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
[08:28] <HasanNoori>     HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog
[08:28] <FloodBot2> HasanNoori: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:28] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: oh i got it now, it means we upgrade version wise in order.
[08:28] <losher> you too, mazagaz. Does no-one even bother saying thank you any more?
[08:29] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: | !pastebin
[08:29] <HasanNoori> ok SORRY
[08:29] <HasanNoori>         Help -    Search -    Members -    Calendar      Full Version: HOWTO: Connect to IRC with Pidgin   Zantherus Community > Zantherus Activities > The Library > Tutorials              akiratheoni   Nov 1 2007, 08:15 PM       So first of all, download Pidgin here:
[08:29] <HasanNoori> http://www.pidgin.im
[08:29] <HasanNoori> And install it. I hope you guys know how to install it if you're on Windows. If not, I'll eventually make a guide for it. Ubuntu 7.10 users, Pidgin is already pre-installed.
[08:29] <HasanNoori> This guide is done on Ubuntu 7.10 but I'm 99.999999999999% sure it's the same process on Windows.
[08:29] <FloodBot2> HasanNoori: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:30] <joemac> I am getting the following error "There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'httpConnectionEncrypt failed'" can anyone help?
[08:31] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:yea,their you are...do that tonight and we'll be sailing on the same bot.im still in intrepid,ive dealt with so much jaunty-upgrade issues on this channell,dont think i wanna face them right now.got quite enough to worry about
[08:31] <painted> I'm trying to increase my mouse wheel scroll to six lines but I don't see the option can anyone help me please?
[08:31] <HasanNoori> basiri@ali-laptop:~$ aplay -L front:CARD=Intel,DEV=0     HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog     Front speakers surround40:CARD=Intel,DEV=0     HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog     4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers surround41:CARD=Intel,DEV=0     HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog     4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround50:CARD=Intel,DEV=0     HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog     5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers surround51:C
[08:32] <itai_> hi, i played with vlc's skins and now getting an error whever it runs, i thought i would just purge and reinstall but i keep getting the same error, is there no way to start from the begining with vlc?
[08:32] <ziroday> itai_: what is the error?
[08:32] <itai_> ziroday, skins2 interface error: cannot find the skins DTD
[08:32] <rickard> I discoved that my mysql installation don´t support innodb.. can I run both myisam / innodb and how do I install it?
[08:32] <ziroday> itai_: you need to remove that skin to clear the error
[08:33] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: ok dude i'll definitly update and let u know about vbox problm, When u come online here? i mean at wat time?
[08:33] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: can u show me the output of lspci . Dont paste it here use pastebin
[08:33] <itai_> ziroday, which skin?
[08:33] <HasanNoori> indian_munnda: Sorry, did u see my message?
[08:34] <ziroday> itai_: skins2 I would imagine
[08:34] <HasanNoori> oh OK
[08:34] <joemac> I am getting the following error "There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'httpConnectionEncrypt failed'" can anyone help?
[08:34] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:now whats the time over their?its 10:30 AM here
[08:34] <itai_> ziroday, check out the full  error running from teminal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/171348/
[08:34] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: 1.11 pm here
[08:35] <ziroday> itai_: it appears to be the WMP11.vlt skin, I would imagine that #vlc would be more helpful
[08:35] <ziroday> itai_: err correction #videolan
[08:35] <Skarpz> Can anyone help me? my sound just stopped working
[08:35] <itai_> ziroday, thanks, but i wonder if i could just reinstall it
[08:36] <ziroday> itai_: no that won't work as it won't delete your settings (unlike in windows)
[08:36] <nmvictor> indian_munnda:when will 6pm here correspond to  ever their?thats when i might surface,but i can make it earlier if you insist.
[08:36] <ManDay> When I change my desktop on a freshly installed Ubuntu (!) I get an error:    "An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for gnome-panel. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly. Failed to contact configuration server, some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due ti a system crash... Details - 1:Could not send message to gconf d
[08:36] <ManDay> aemon; Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus))"
[08:36] <ziroday> ManDay: this is a fresh install? Nothing funky?
[08:37] <ManDay> nothing funky
[08:37] <ManDay> some programs removed i admit
[08:37] <ManDay> but gconf and everything else is still there
[08:37] <ManDay> plus, that has happend last time too, on a really fresh install
[08:37] <ziroday> ManDay: please pastebin ps aux | grep gconf and what programs did you remove (gnome related?)
[08:38] <indian_munnda> nmvictor: actually my day has just started and i update my system mostly in night. And night is atleast 10 hours away from now. So i can meet u tommorow here at around 10am to 2 pm.
[08:38] <ManDay> alot, but i made sure nothing essential
[08:38] <Skarpz> How can I find out how to get my sound back?
[08:39] <nmvictor> 10am t0 2pm over their or over here?
[08:39] <ziroday> ManDay: can you pastebin it please
[08:39] <ManDay> one sec
[08:39] <itai_> ziroday, apparently it was  rm -rf ~/.config/vlc ,they told me in #videolan, thanks for help
[08:39] <spencer> how do i install vcdk?
[08:39] <ziroday> ManDay: err did you remove anything gnome related? (gnome-session would be helpful)
[08:40] <spencer> $sudo apt-cache search vcdk does nothing
[08:40] <ManDay> no, i didnt remove gnome-session
[08:40] <ziroday> itai_: well that is one way to reset your settings, next time you might want to do mv ~/.config/vlc ~/.config/vlc.old so if something breaks you still have your old config
[08:40] <itai_> ziroday, thanks for the tip
[08:41] <ziroday> itai_: have fun
[08:41] <Skarpz> hmm
[08:41] <ankurwidguitar> Can somebody tell me about Scribus alternative which can handle .sla file and supports Indic text too?
[08:41] <ManDay> zicho, http://manday.pastebin.com/m3fe803cd
[08:41] <ManDay> ziroday, http://manday.pastebin.com/m3fe803cd
[08:41] <ManDay> sorry gotta go
[08:41] <ziroday> ManDay: okay, gconfd is working
[08:41] <ManDay> ill be back in a while
[08:41] <ManDay> thanks already
[08:41] <ziroday> ManDay: I probably won't be here, but I'm sure someone else will be able to help you
[08:42] <ankurwidguitar> Can somebody tell me about Scribus alternative which can handle .sla file and supports Indic text too?
[08:42] <Skarpz> So, my sound isn't working, what can I do about it?
[08:43] <ziroday> !repeat > ankurwidguitar
[08:43] <ziroday> Skarpz: you checked to make sure PCM volume is up to the max?
[08:43] <ankurwidguitar> Can somebody tell me about Scribus alternative which can handle .sla file and supports Indic text too?
[08:44] <ziroday> ankurwidguitar: that is a fairly specialised question, repeating it ever minute isn't going to get you far :)
[08:44] <troopperi> Skarpz: type alsamixer at terminal and check out if sound levels are down or muted.
[08:44] <ankurwidguitar> I am sorry! But I am desperate to know the solution
[08:44] <Skarpz> hmm yeah simple mistake sorry it went mute on me
[08:45] <Skarpz> new to this
[08:45] <HasanNoori>  indian_munnda: Sorry, did u see my message?
[08:45] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: no
[08:45] <spencer> ia32-libs what is this and why should i care?
[08:45] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: didn't gogt any
[08:46] <ziroday> spencer: its a library to get many 32bit apps to run on 64bit
[08:46] <ziroday> spencer: and you should probably keep it if you're on 64bit
[08:46] <spencer> i see, a tutorial says i should keep it/get it before i continue on this thing
[08:46] <spencer> how do i ensure i have it because it doesn't explain
[08:46] <painted> been using ubuntu for about a week now... i'd never use windows if it weren't for games now
[08:47]  * painted pats self on back
[08:47] <ziroday> spencer: do sudo apt-get install ia32-libs it will tell you if you need it, what is the tutorial?
[08:47] <HasanNoori> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82567V Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03)
[08:47] <spencer> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_Catalyst_8.4_Driver_Manually
[08:47] <spencer> method 2, it's a real pain in the ass
[08:47] <Skarpz> troopperi: Thanks about the alsamixer in the terminal
[08:47] <ziroday> HasanNoori: stop. Pastebin.
[08:47] <troopperi> Skarpz: np :D
[08:47] <ziroday> spencer: why are you installing it like that?
[08:47] <spencer> because nothing else works
[08:47] <HasanNoori> ok
[08:48] <HasanNoori> ziroday, what can i do?
[08:48] <ziroday> spencer: you do understand that method is outdated and a bad idea right?
[08:48] <ziroday> HasanNoori: stick it in pastebin
[08:48] <ziroday> !pastebin | HasanNoori
[08:48] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: use pastebin service or u will be kicked by the floodbot
[08:48] <spencer> ziroday: i understand that ATi are retarded
[08:48] <techtonik> Where should bugs/usability proposals spotted at install time go?
[08:48] <spencer> and the open source drivers didn't work
[08:48] <nmvictor> painted:cool linux games are out in the wild,you aint looking good,consult google always
[08:49] <ziroday> techtonik: http://bugs.launchpad.com/ubuntu or http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com if it's a particularly ambitious idea
[08:49] <painted> nmvictor, yeah I know linux has games, but i meant more mainstream games, if you know what i mean
[08:49] <ziroday> techtonik: and/or fancy one :)
[08:49] <Skarpz> I'll be back in the future I'm sure. Laterz
[08:49] <ziroday> spencer: what version of ubuntu?
[08:49] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: your sound card is not in PCI
[08:49] <ziroday> spencer: and what card?
[08:49] <Bob_Dole> It'd be nice if I could get Unreal Tournament GoTY to install.. but the .run from loki gives "Verifying archive integrity...tail: cannot open `+6' for reading: No such file or directory" and the --keep option I saw doesn't help.
[08:49] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: check your hardware
[08:50] <ziroday> Bob_Dole: sounds like a bad download
[08:50] <HasanNoori> indian_munnda: ok, help me
[08:50] <spencer> i don't remember which version. it's a HD4850
[08:50] <Bob_Dole> ziroday, That's 3 different downloads
[08:50] <HasanNoori> please
[08:50] <indian_munnda> ziroday: HasanNoori's soundcard is not showing up in PCI
[08:50] <spencer> 8.10 probably
[08:50] <Bob_Dole> from 2 different sources. Am I that unlucky?
[08:50] <ziroday> indian_munnda: I don't know sorry
[08:51] <ziroday> Bob_Dole: probably not, unfortunately I have no experience with loki or UT sorry
[08:51] <HasanNoori> see the following again
[08:51] <ziroday> spencer: do lsb_release -a to see your ubuntu version
[08:51] <techtonik> ziroday: thanks, there is nothing very special in install I guess, but still would be nice to see - like hint what combination changes keyboard layout on the page with proposal to test this layout
[08:51] <spencer> Description:	Ubuntu 8.04.2
[08:51] <HasanNoori>  indian_munnda: but wat i can i do now?
[08:51] <ziroday> techtonik: well feel free to create a bug, and a brainstorm idea and then link the bug to brainstorm
[08:52] <ziroday> spencer: okay, go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[08:52] <HasanNoori>  ziroday: can you help me?
[08:52] <ziroday> spencer: and if you use a later version of ubuntu the open source drivers work great for that card
[08:52] <ziroday> HasanNoori: nope, sorry
[08:52] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: give me the output of sudo cat /etc/asound/cards
[08:52] <spencer> ziroday: i don't know how to upgrade, also Hardware Drivers is no longer present in my list
[08:52] <HasanNoori> ok
[08:53] <painted> nmvictor, i downloaded a lniux game, what's the terminal command to install a package?
[08:53] <ziroday> spencer: how about System > Administration > Restricted Drivers Manager?
[08:53] <spencer> no
[08:53] <ziroday> painted: if its a package just double click
[08:53] <spencer> i'm sure they were there earlier..
[08:53] <HasanNoori> indian_munnda:  cat: /etc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
[08:53] <ziroday> spencer: okay, I recommend you either upgrade or reinstall
[08:53] <spencer> god damnit
[08:54] <spencer> last time i tried to reinstall i lost access to windows
[08:54] <ziroday> spencer: well we can help you with that, after you reinstall
[08:54] <painted> ziroday, i did but it opens it with a text editor = /
[08:54] <spencer> hah funny, they said that last time and i couldn't boot into an OS
[08:54] <ziroday> spencer: or if you prefer you can upgrade, but that might be more likely to break
[08:54] <nmvictor> painted:im not a dedicated gamer,so obviously i dont get what you mean,but no prob.what the package,.tar achirve or a .deb or a .bin package?depends you know
[08:54] <ziroday> painted: what game and what does it end in?
[08:54] <spencer> why is it likely to break? i thought ubuntu was supposed to be better and modular..
[08:55] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: oh sory it is sudo cat /proc/asound/cards
[08:55] <painted> the file's full name is supertux-0.1.3.x86.package
[08:55] <spencer> so what am i downloading?
[08:55] <ziroday> spencer: because do an entire system upgrade is extremely hard to test and can lead to bad results
[08:55] <ziroday> spencer: everybodies setup is different
[08:55] <HasanNoori>  0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[08:55] <spencer> 9.04?
[08:55] <HasanNoori> HDA Intel at 0x92100000 irq 22
[08:55] <ziroday> spencer: yes, that is the latest version
[08:56] <spencer> i understand that but i never had issues on Windows doing a service pack update
[08:56] <spencer> i'm being unfair.. i just expected Linux to be so much cleaner
[08:56] <ziroday> spencer: this isn't a service pack upgrade, this is like going from XP to Vista to Windows 7
[08:56] <ziroday> spencer: you have already been through to "service packs" on your current system
[08:57] <ziroday> s/to/two
[08:57] <spencer> oh right, cool
[08:57] <spencer> can i install from memory stick again? i don't have a blank CD?
[08:58] <ziroday> Hi, anyone know of an app that can take my extremely messy ~/Music dir and organize it into a nice new music dir, deleting duplicate songs, fixing tags and adding artwork?
[08:58] <ziroday> spencer: you can install from a memory stick, but cd will be easier
[08:58] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: check this out may be it will help you http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=47392
[08:58] <painted> what's the directory for desktop?
[08:58] <spencer> no CDs i'm afraid, i know my way around BIOS
[08:59] <sacarlson> ziroday: It won't orginize it but removes duplicates I think is called lint
[08:59] <ziroday> painted: ~/Desktop
[08:59] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: try all commands which have been used there
[08:59] <ziroday> sacarlson: thanks, I'll look into it :)
[08:59] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: Are u on toshiba laptop?
[08:59] <HasanNoori> yes
[09:00] <ziroday> sacarlson: hmm, there is no package called lint, did you mean fslint?
[09:00] <nmvictor> ziroday:maybe rhythmbox,exail music player or gmusicbrowser
[09:00] <spencer> ziroday: do i just destroy this partition? or can i write over it easily?
[09:00] <HasanNoori> i'm on toshibasatilte pro s300-ez2501
[09:00] <ziroday> nmvictor: none of those have to option to delete duplicate music files
[09:00] <ziroday> spencer: you can write over it easily
[09:00] <HasanNoori> indian_munnda: Thanks for all
[09:00] <karl_> Hi
[09:00] <Bob_Dole> Only games I really play are Tremulous(in the repos already), Vendetta Online(has a nifty .sh file to install, doesn't need root, but also doesn't install "normally." I added it to my application's menu manually.) And games that run well under WINE, excluding UT:GoTY for some reason.. it's a DirextX...6-8(can't remember which for some reason) game, yet it doesn't "just work" like my other games. This -isn't- ubuntu's fault, but
[09:00] <Bob_Dole> WINE's I'd imagine.... if I can figure out what's going on with this installer for UT:GoTY I'll be all set.(and Unreal Tournament has issues on windows, too, with a default install if you have the ability to run more than 1 thread at a time. such as dual-core cpu's or hyperthreaded cpu's)..But overall, Gaming on Linux without windows isn't too difficult. Whoa, I think this is going to be absurdly long...sorry D:
[09:00] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/how-i-fixed-sound-on-my-toshiba-alc268-567376/
[09:01] <karl_> i need support for driver install in ubuntu?
[09:01] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: check this. It the same as your problm is
[09:01] <indian_munnda> HasanNoori: me gtg
[09:01] <indian_munnda> bye
[09:01] <HasanNoori> thanks bye
[09:02] <Bob_Dole> that was even longer than I thought it was going to be. f$*k.
[09:02] <Spremi> hi all folks.
[09:02] <ziroday> Spremi: Hi!, how can we help you today?
[09:02] <painted> supertux-0.1.3.x86.package is the name of the file and it's on the desktop but sudo aptitude install ~/Desktop/supertux-0.1.3.x86.package returns "couldn't find any package whose name or description matched"
[09:03] <Spremi> hi ziro, I'm seeking help on a feature of the "diff" shell command
[09:03] <ziroday> painted: that is not a debian package
[09:03] <ziroday> Spremi: sure, what confusing you?
[09:03] <iceroot> painted: sudo apt-get install supertux
[09:04] <Spremi> ziroday: well I've to diff a bunch of HTML/PHP source file to track the changes. I want to ignore the whitespace, but the -w options doesn't really do the trick
[09:04] <ziroday> painted: why not install supertux from the repo's?
[09:04] <iceroot> painted: use the one from the repos
[09:04] <Ademan> sudo apt-get purge supertux
[09:04] <painted> ziroday, but it's downloading it again...
[09:04] <Ademan> ....
[09:04] <painted> why should I get it from the repos when I already have the latest version?
[09:04] <mmu_man> http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ 404  !??
[09:04] <ziroday> !latest | painted
[09:04] <Ademan> if you're looking for some mario business grab an emulator or super maryo chronicles from getdeb
[09:04] <bullgard4> Klicking User Switcher applet > Suspend /var/log/pm-suspend.log: "success; performing suspend." After pressing the Power button of the laptop computer hard disk and fan start but the display remains dark. It is recommended to unload on trial some modules before Suspend. But with which should I start?  There are 57 loaded. My video driver is radeon_drv.so.
[09:04] <iceroot> painted: because you always have to use the paketmanager for a clean and safe system
[09:04] <ziroday> painted: because installing from the repo's is easier, safer and better in the long run
[09:04] <Ademan> mmu_man: is SSE your game?
[09:05] <mmu_man> hmm ah no not this one
[09:05] <mmu_man> Ademan:  ?
[09:05] <Bob_Dole> I'm running jaunty, and have been running it since the beta...because I couldn't get 8.04 to boot. I Have a Radeon HD 3850, is it normal for the graphical live-cd to hardfreeze the moment X tries to display something?..and then the alternate install to do the same after being installed?
[09:05] <ziroday> bullgard4: wireless and video?
[09:05] <Spremi> ziroday: in particular, a line like <p>Hello</p> is seen different from <p>[CR]Hello[CR]</p> where CR is a Carriage Return, any suggestion how to treat these two texts like equivalent with diff? Thanks in advance.
[09:05] <ziroday> Bob_Dole: the 3850 might be a bit new for hardy
[09:05] <Ademan> mmu_man: nvm I thought mmu was a reference to the SIMD multimedia instruction sets (including SSE)
[09:06] <Bob_Dole> 8.10 did the same thing, actually.
[09:06] <ziroday> Spremi: sorry, I don't I really don't use diff that heavily and when I do I use it with meld
[09:06] <painted> gotcha... what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get
[09:06] <mmu_man> Err http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/main php5-cli 5.2.3-1ubuntu6.5 404 Not Found
[09:06] <Bob_Dole> mmu= Memory Management Unit, from all I've ever known.
[09:06] <ziroday> painted: they maintain packages differently, they are interchangable and you can use whichever one you prefer
[09:06] <mmu_man> indeed
[09:06] <bullgard4> ziroday: There is no 'wireless'. But I will give 'video' a try.
[09:06] <ziroday> mmu_man: gutsy is EOL
[09:06] <ziroday> bullgard4: this is a desktop?
[09:06] <Spremi> ok no prob ziroday :)
[09:07] <bullgard4> ziroday: No. A laptop computer.
[09:07] <ziroday> bullgard4: it has a wireless card, no?
[09:07] <nmvictor> gtg guys,life's calling.bye to all we've chatted with.thanks to all who've helped and anytime for those i've assisted in anyway.
[09:07] <bullgard4> ziroday: It does not have a wireless card nor controller.
[09:07] <ziroday> bullgard4: ah right
[09:09] <Ademan> Bob_Dole: yeah, I'm silly late at night... all of the SSE functions are prefixed with _mm though, my brain removed the u and made a connection, rather than the obvious one lol
[09:09]  * Bob_Dole goes to see if the netami project has any new news on their "modern" Amiga. which lacks an MMU
[09:10] <rossnixon> I want to mount my hibernated Windows drive. When I try "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/disk -o ro" it says "fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/disk: No such file or directory"
[09:10] <Ademan> ross:   ls /media    is disk in there?
[09:11] <Ademan> rossnixon: ^^
[09:11] <ziroday> rossnixon: do sudo mkdir /media/disk ; sudo chown <youruser>:<youruser> /media/disk
[09:11] <segin> How do I install the standard manual pages for the GNU C Library?
[09:12] <rossnixon> My c: drive does not appear in /mount, but it is mounted automatically if I shut windows down before booting up in Ubuntu.
[09:12] <segin> It is package glibc-doc?
[09:12] <sacarlson> rossnixon: I think you must create the mount directory first
[09:12] <Ademan> ziroday: why would he chown it?
[09:12] <ziroday> Ademan: because otherwise it belongs to root and he can't read it
[09:12] <Ademan> can't *read* it or can't write it?
[09:12] <ziroday> Ademan: both
[09:12] <Ademan> eh?
[09:13] <ziroday> Ademan: if I create a dir as root, I can't read or write to it as me
[09:13] <Ademan> ziroday: you should be able to read it, unless your mask is wierd...
[09:13] <ziroday> Ademan: sorry, read not write :)
[09:14] <Ademan> no problem, I was just wondering if there was something at play I didn't know/understand, maybe specific to mount points
[09:14] <Ademan> I rarely if ever mount things by hand...
[09:15] <brodsta> I'm having trouble connecting to a WPA2-PSK network using wpa_supplicant and the rt61pci driver, although networkmanager seems to work flawlessly.  When I connect using wpa_supplicant "ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such file or directory" seems to disrupt it and it reconnects and so on and so on.  Don't suppose anyone has ideas on this?
[09:16] <rossnixon> Thanks heaps ziroday!!! I have mounted it with your help.
[09:16] <ziroday> rossnixon: great to hear
[09:17] <Spremi> bye folks
[09:17] <Kartagis> on any page, flash movies are replaced with a huge play button. what may cause this?
[09:17] <amanda-b> so i'm adding a bunch of usb drives (like, 12 of them) to a system. all are ext3. what are appropriate options in fstab?
[09:17] <Chriss_> hello, anyone has experience with MailScanner?
[09:17] <rossnixon> Ziroday, now I want to put the two commands into a script. Do I need a certain file type? Sorry for newbie talk.
[09:18] <joemac> I am getting the following error "There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'httpConnectionEncrypt failed'" can anyone help?
[09:18] <brodsta> Kartagis: flashplugin is installed properly?
[09:18] <ziroday> rossnixon: not at all, are you trying to have this file mounted at boot?
[09:18] <Kartagis> brodsta, yes
[09:18] <Ademan> rossnixon: no, you just open a file and put them in there, save it (.sh if you want it to be easily identifiable as a shell script)   chmod a+x whateveryourfileis
[09:18] <Ademan> the extensions in linux basically don't matter
[09:19] <ga_bash> hi.. having trouble with #make in /usr/src. kernel build..
[09:19] <rossnixon> Ideally the script would run automatically if my c: drive was hibernated.
[09:19] <ziroday> amanda-b: well it depends on what you want, doing there UUID then filesystem then options then 0 0 is usually the best way to go
[09:19] <Ademan> rossnixon: oh right, and at the top you will need #!/bin/bash
[09:19] <ziroday> rossnixon: well you can add the force option to fstab and it will always mount the drive
[09:19] <ziroday> rossnixon: but mounting the ntfs partition whilst hibernated is dangerous
[09:19] <Ademan> yeah if you always want it to be mounted you want /etc/fstab
[09:20] <amanda-b> ziroday i'm not doing uuid, actually, i'm doing /dev/disk/by-label. uuid is too big a pita for that many drives. :-)
[09:20] <peerless> hi .. My cpu usage is hovering around 80% at most times.i use 8.10..any ways to reduce it?
[09:20] <rossnixon> Only as read-only of course - hence the "ro"
[09:20] <ga_bash> make: *** No rule to make target `include/config/auto.conf', needed by `include/config/kernel.release'.  Stop.
[09:20] <Ademan> peerless: what's taking up all of the cpu?
[09:20] <ga_bash> anyone
[09:20] <ziroday> amanda-b: understandable, feel free to pastebin what you have so we can have a quick glance over it
[09:20] <Ademan> ga_bash: have you run the kernel configuration utility?
[09:21] <ziroday> amanda-b: and out of curiosity, what are you doing with twelve usb drives?
[09:21] <peerless> Ademan: x mostly.. and firefox at times
[09:21] <Ademan> she's a klepto :-p
[09:21] <ga_bash> Ademan, i copied the config file to /usr/src from /boot/config...xyxyz
[09:21] <ga_bash> Ademan, the file i renamed to .config
[09:21] <ziroday> rossnixon: right, then probably easiest just to add the force option in your fstab file
[09:21] <Ademan> ga_bash: are you following a tutorial or anything?
[09:21] <ziroday> rossnixon: and that way the drive will always be mounted
[09:21] <ga_bash> Ademan, no..
[09:22] <ga_bash> Ademan, i just want to know what the error signifies.
[09:22] <ziroday> rossnixon: or even better if there are errors it can remount it ro otherwise, rw
[09:22] <Ademan> ga_bash: I've never built my own kernel, but I recommend running the config utility since it may touch other files
[09:22] <ziroday> ga_bash: building your own kernel is not supported here
[09:22] <Ademan> ga_bash: its missing that file include/config/auto.conf   that's all it means
[09:22] <ziroday> (and a really bad idea)
[09:22] <Ademan> ziroday: well technically it's a gnu make question :-p
[09:22] <ga_bash> Ademan, to reduce the problem of configuration i took the configuration file from /boot/ which is a working kernel.
[09:22] <amanda-b> ziroday, mostly a huge media collection, live recordings of my fav band. sizes vary based on when i bought the drives, 250 300 500 750 1t
[09:22] <rossnixon> OK thanks, will google command syntax - hopefully it will mount as read-write if not hibernated, and *only* mount readonly if hibernated.
[09:23] <ga_bash> ziroday, its ubuntu kernel.
[09:23] <ga_bash> ziroday, i am having trouble with ubuntu.
[09:23] <Ademan> peerless: hrm, high X usage means something is doing alot of drawing.... have you tried logging out then back in? also are you using an intel graphics card?
[09:23] <ziroday> amanda-b: great, whilst UUID's are a good way to go "just in case" /dev's are just fine too
[09:24] <ziroday> ga_bash: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile and its still not supported
[09:24] <GnosticAscension> weeeheeeeeee
[09:24] <ga_bash> ziroday, all right i would see that
[09:24] <amanda-b> ziroday, i learned the hard way that eg /dev/sdh1 can change between boots depending on the usb subsystem, ergo, why i went with drive labels
[09:24] <ziroday> rossnixon: feel free to pastebin your new fstab too, and we'll glance over it
[09:24] <peerless> Ademan: No i dont have a separate  graphics card.. Log outs didnt help
[09:25] <ziroday> amanda-b: personally I still prefer UUID's and they're really easy to see with a quick blkid
[09:25] <sauvin> uuids, however, are impossible to remember.
[09:25] <peerless> Ademan: Gui apps like firefox vlc takes more of cpu often
[09:25] <jamelon> hello
[09:25] <Ademan> sauvin: I would hope you don't go around remembering uuids :-p
[09:25] <jamelon> i've problem :(
[09:26] <amanda-b> ziroday but i can't remember them :-) i also have the drives physically labeled, so when one goes south on me, i know which physical unit it is :-) when 300a took a shit ... i knew which box to yank.
[09:26] <sauvin> Ademan, nope, but, lemme see...<PHONE_NUMBER>2714997497291687453, was that the library disk or the binaries disk...?
[09:26] <bingungaja> how to download file from rapidshare in ubuntu ?
[09:26] <ziroday> bingungaja: just click on the link?
[09:26] <Ademan> sauvin: that's why fstab has comments :-)
[09:26] <ziroday> amanda-b: makes sense :), and watch the language please
[09:26] <sauvin> It's also why I tend to mount by label :D
[09:26] <Ademan> peerless: are you on jaunty? and if you don't have a separate graphics card, doesn't that mean you have an intel graphics chip?
[09:26] <jamelon> i downloaded ubuntu, and at the end it is corrupted file , 4GB :(
[09:27] <amanda-b> okay my fstab at http://pastebin.com/m1c9d8f23
[09:27] <bingungaja> ziroday: no, using rapidshare-dl or other download manager, seems it will only downloaded the html file
[09:27] <Ademan> jamelon: use torrents!
[09:27] <jamelon> link please?
[09:27] <Ademan> jamelon: you're using the dvd i assume?
[09:27] <ziroday> amanda-b: looks fine to me
[09:27] <jamelon> yes
[09:27] <Ademan> 4gb is a bit large for a cd ;-)
[09:27] <GnosticAscension> @bingungaja download managers not compatible with RS etc
[09:27] <jamelon> :(
[09:27] <Ademan> ubuntu i386 desktop? (or alternate?)
[09:28] <RaverWild> hello guys. need help - i need to get basic understanding of what the mail spool is , how it works. what online stuff u reccomend reading? i tried with google last 30mins but looks i ask wrong questions. help please
[09:28] <jamelon> yes i386
[09:28] <amanda-b> ziroday, my concern now is that, at boot, the usb subsystem will not be running and drive scans have settled, and so mounting fstab will cause the boot to hang.
[09:28] <jamelon> downloaded this   ubuntu-9.04-dvd-i386.iso
[09:28] <Ademan> do we even have ppc anymore? I remember ppc was no longer officially supported but someone was still maintaining it...
[09:28] <painted> ademan, i use DVDs for ISOs, just because they write and read faster than CDs
[09:28] <Ademan> but that was a few releases ago
[09:28] <xukun> !ati
[09:28] <painted> well ademan, PS3's still use PPCs
[09:29] <ziroday> amanda-b: it shouldn't do, if fstab can't mount something it should just continue on its merry way with the rest
[09:29] <peerless> Ademan: I am with Intrepid .. I dont have a separate graphics card..but guess my intel mother board has an integrated graphics chip
[09:29] <bingungaja> GnosticAscension: i've been googling and found one console download manager called rapidshare-dl, others seems successfull using that, but not me
[09:29] <bingungaja> or anyone can tell me what's free download manager in windows works in wine ?
[09:29] <GnosticAscension> bingungaja: hm, thanks for *that* info :P
[09:29] <amanda-b> ziroday, would it be better, given my concern, to set all the external drives to noauto, and then mount them at the end of the boot process, through eg an S99mountallthedrives script?
[09:29] <huepm> chao cac pac
[09:30] <Ademan> peerless: ah, alright, hrm, because I know intel graphics chips have been having issues with jaunty....
[09:30] <GnosticAscension> Ademan: I heard Intel stuff was slower on jaunty
[09:30] <GnosticAscension> that true?
[09:30] <ziroday> amanda-b: AFAICT if fstab can't mount something it just moves on, but that can't hurt
[09:30] <Ademan> GnosticAscension: for some chipsets, yes
[09:30] <jamelon> i downloaded this   ubuntu-9.04-dvd-i386.iso
[09:30] <amanda-b> ziroday, even if the boot doesn't fail, if the drives aren't mounted because the usb subsystem isn't ready when it tries to mount them, it still defeats the purpose, which is to have the drives mounted and shared when the system comes up
[09:30]  * jamelon waiting :(
[09:30] <xukun> during the upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 I get a warning saying that there is no fglrx suport for may ati card. Can I ignore this and just install the drivers?
[09:31] <Ademan> jamelon: yeah, hold on
[09:31] <ziroday> amanda-b: fstab should mount the drives after the usb subsystem comes up
[09:31] <jamelon> sorry :D
[09:31] <Ademan> jamelon: no problem, I just don't normally download the dvd
[09:31] <jamelon> what's different between dvd and cd? i think dvd have alot of software, right?
[09:31] <Ademan> GnosticAscension: yeah there's a PPA with newer kernels with supposedly better intel drivers though, so the problems being solved, but right now, yeah, some intel chipsets are slower, like apparently horribly slower
[09:32] <Ademan> jamelon: I would assume, but like I said I don't use it :-p
[09:32] <amanda-b> i suppose now is the time to test it ... how do i turn off kdm at boot?
[09:32] <amanda-b> i just want a prompt on this box
[09:32] <GnosticAscension> jamelon: there is a solution on this page [ http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=143658 ]
[09:32] <GnosticAscension> it says
[09:32] <GnosticAscension> jamelon : "I got a corrupt ubuntu .iso and fixed it thusly:  Get a torrent for the same .iso and point it's download dir to where you have your incomplete one (I used utorrent), it will go through the whole file and work out what it still needs to download, just let it do it's thing and you should have the full uncoorrupted .iso."
[09:33] <GnosticAscension> (this is what the site says)
[09:33] <GnosticAscension> dunno whether it works, but worth a try i think
[09:33] <Ademan> O_o where the heck are the dvd torrents?!
[09:35] <jamelon> thanks GnosticAscension
[09:36] <Ademan> jamelon: did GnosticAscension take care of you? otherwise  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/release/ubuntu-9.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent   does that look right?
[09:37] <Ademan> for some reason it wasn't in the main releases.ubuntu.com anywhere I saw...
[09:37] <Ademan> jamelon: here's the full list of options I found: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/release/
[09:37] <farciarz84> what is the checksum of ubuntu 9.04 32-bit?
[09:37] <jamelon> thanks Ademan
[09:38] <farciarz84> I mean iso image
[09:38] <Ademan> farciarz84: it's in MD5SUM at releases.ubuntu.com
[09:38] <jamelon> farciarz84, question for me?
[09:38] <NativeAngels> how well are usb wireless cards supported by ubuntu 9.04
[09:38] <Ademan> farciarz84: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/MD5SUMS
[09:38] <farciarz84> tnx
[09:38] <Ademan> MD5SUMS not MD5SUM apparently
[09:38] <Ademan> no problem
[09:39] <jamelon> i checked MD5SUM and it is totally different with my iso
[09:39] <Ademan> NativeAngels: it all depends on which one
[09:39] <Ademan> jamelon: :-/ lol
[09:39] <amanda-b> and sure enough, boot failed, CTRL-D to continue or root password. something's gorked. exactly what i wanted to avoid. good thing i'm here to fix it. :-(
[09:39] <NativeAngels> its an old wanado one
[09:39] <NativeAngels> cohiba
[09:39] <Ademan> amanda-b: I don't mean to be "that gross geek" but its pretty awesome you're into this kinda stuff and capable to boot...
[09:40] <Ademan> !wifi
[09:40] <NativeAngels> if i have the windows drivers can i use them in ubuntu ?
[09:40] <niff> #ubuntu.fr
[09:40] <Ademan> NativeAngels: maybe with ndiswrapper
[09:40] <amanda-b> ademan: uh?
[09:41] <Bob_Dole> I'm disgusted. Yahoo sent me an e-mail telling me to "upgrade" to Internet Exploder 8.
[09:41] <Ademan> amanda-b: disregard that hah
[09:41] <Ademan> NativeAngels: it may not be necessary depending on whether there's a native driver
[09:41] <amanda-b> ademan: only reason i'm hear asking for help was because i couldn't get debian squeeze to boot properly on my mac mini. the ubuntu installer can handle efi, but the debian installer can't yet. why escapes me.
[09:42] <amanda-b> <-- debian girl all the way
[09:42] <CapitanAwesome> whats the "get deps" command for apt-get ?
[09:43] <Ademan> amanda-b: you can always drop into a terminal in the middle of the debian installer though, unless there's a new non-ncurses one lately
[09:43] <maxagaz> is there any repositories for emacs on hardy ?
[09:43] <amanda-b> ademan: and do what tho? (and yes, there is a gnome installer)
[09:43] <sacarlson> Bob_Dole:  just change your user agent to look like E8 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59
[09:43] <Ademan> maxagaz: what do you mean repositories? what do you need that's not in an official package?
[09:44] <maxagaz> Ademan, tramp in emcas doesn't work in hardy, but works in jaunty
[09:44] <Ademan> amanda-b: efi-install /dev/hda1 ? I don't know squat about efi, but I'm sure refit provides some relevant tools
[09:44] <maxagaz> Ademan, but i have to use hardy at work
[09:44] <Ademan> maxagaz: and you have root access? nifty
[09:45] <amanda-b> ademan: wasn't available on a business card install. :-)
[09:45] <maxagaz> Ademan, yes i do
[09:46] <rusiru> hey i installed jaunty in my toshiba laptop bluetooth worked at first now its not working can anyone helpme
[09:46] <Ademan> maxagaz: you can do the horrible thing I've done and add the jaunty repos, update, install new package(s), remove repos, update.  although I would never do that on my work computer... it took alot of courage to do it at home... i just wanted python2.6 that badly :-)
[09:46] <THE_MAC> im trying to set up ubuntu in my house, the first computer .. ubuntu doesnt see the linksys wifi card .. its a wmp54g pci card.. any ideas?? i cant change the other 6 computers till i figure this out first..
[09:47] <CapitanAwesome> whats the 'fix dependencies' command for apt-get ?
[09:48] <devindersingh> hi
[09:48] <Ademan> CaptainMorgan: have you checked the man page?
[09:48] <devindersingh> can i install DHCP server on ubuntu desktop
[09:49] <CaptainMorgan> Ademan, why whould I?
[09:49] <aaroninfidel> would someone consider pointing me or compiling a version of ubuntu that has EFI enabled for boot?
[09:49] <aaroninfidel> pointing me too a download*
[09:49] <AnnonyMouse> has anyone else gotten a bad KVM apt update?
[09:49] <Ademan> CaptainMorgan: because the man pages are great resources so that you can operate more independently?
[09:50] <CaptainMorgan> Ademan, and you don't think I already know that?
[09:50] <THE_MAC> i just want to get these computers running on ubuntu so i can get rid of windows all together
[09:50] <jamelon> what's the best version of Linux? Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, or? O_o
[09:50] <AnnonyMouse> jamelon : ubuntu's the most forgiving
[09:51] <jamelon> y?
[09:51] <AnnonyMouse> jamelon : ubuntu's a debian derivative, fedora's more 4 biz
[09:51] <THE_MAC> it is.. it just doesnt see linksys wifi cards but everything else works great
[09:51] <AnnonyMouse> bsd is a bit hard-core security
[09:52] <maxagaz> Ademan, i have another solution... but hard to do... install a thin client server on jaunty, i boot my computer on it
[09:52] <matitaccia> Hello everyone. Is it possible to open .mdi files under linux? Is there some utility that can convert this .mdi files in something less exclusive?
[09:52] <ido_> I have a ridiculous question: How do I stop backspace from deleting characters in openoffice word processor?
[09:52] <jamelon> i see
[09:52] <Ademan> CaptainMorgan: considering the third option listed in the OPTIONS section in the man page is what you want and could have been found by searching for either dependency or dependencies, apparently not...
[09:52] <acalvo> hi, is there an easy way to migrate from desktop to server?
[09:52] <CaptainMorgan> Ademan, I don't want to check any man pages. Thanks.
[09:53] <AnnonyMouse> jamelon : but most of 'em have live boot disks, so you can "try before you buy" on most of em
[09:53] <dyess002> is there a good program like poweriso for linux out there?
[09:53] <AnnonyMouse> dyess002 ???
[09:53] <Ademan> maxagaz: if you're comfortable using emacs from the command line you could just ssh home, and that would be very fast, or use X11 over ssh and use the emacs gui, which would likely be fairly slow
[09:53] <dyess002> ?
[09:53] <CaptainMorgan> Ademan, maybe there is someone else you intend to win over with the checking of man pages?
[09:53] <matitaccia> AnnonyMouse, quite a lot of questions today.
[09:53] <THE_MAC> what is the package for linksys wireless cards
[09:53] <acalvo> dyess002, google is fyour friend! http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[09:54] <AnnonyMouse> matitaccia : any regarding a bad KVM patch?
[09:54] <dyess002> thanks
[09:54] <jamelon> @AnnonyMouse, to buy?
[09:54] <matitaccia> AnnonyMouse, no, no...
[09:54] <CaptainMorgan> Ademan, and I wouldn't even know where to begin, since I don't know which man pages you are pointing to.
[09:55] <acalvo> THE_MAC, I believe it depends on the wifi chip that is bundle with the wireless card
[09:55] <AnnonyMouse> dyess002 : u can look as dd & loop mount for built-in tools
[09:55] <dyess002> i have tried google, but sometime i just can't think of what to say in the search
[09:55] <CaptainMorgan> dyess002, Brasero
[09:55] <THE_MAC> ok then what wireless cards work with ubuntu then ?
[09:56] <Ademan> CaptainMorgan: *that* is ok, the reason why I asked in the first place is because the man pages really are your friends
[09:56] <matitaccia> AnnonyMouse, do you have any idea how to convert .mdi files in something more accessible?
[09:56] <Ademan> CaptainMorgan: man <program name> is the general form, so in this case     man apt-get
[09:56] <AnnonyMouse> jamelon, matitaccia : I broke my KVM (Kernel VM) on my Hardy-64 when I applies the "critical update", & now I'm a bit screwed
[09:56] <acalvo> THE_MAC, ehm, again, it depends on the model and the chip that is bundle with the wireless card. popular chips like athereos or intel work pretty well
[09:56] <CaptainMorgan> Ademan, that's great. And I know they are -- again, why would I check them? Why are you intent on showing me man pages of whatever command you think I should look up?
[09:56] <phased> Use FreeBSD.
[09:56] <Ademan> CaptainMorgan:  you can search by hitting / and typing your search and hitting enter, n and N go back and forth through the results
[09:56] <phased> http://www.freebsd.org/
[09:57] <CaptainMorgan> Ademan, STOP -- WHY are you insisting I need man pages?
[09:57] <phased> Because; you're a novice CaptainMorgan perhaps ?
[09:57] <THE_MAC> ok so i have a wmp54g wirless card from linksys.... hw do i tell if this will work ??
[09:57] <CaptainMorgan> phased, uhm... no.
[09:57] <AnnonyMouse> matitaccia : many, many options. if you're looking for 1:1 replacements for apps, look at osalt.com
[09:57] <dyess002> Brasero, is it in the synaptic?
[09:57] <Ademan> CaptainMorgan: because knowing how to use them will serve you well...
[09:57] <CaptainMorgan> phased, Ademan contacted me FIRST. I said nothing.
[09:57] <acalvo> CaptainMorgan, I agree with Ademan
[09:58] <GeekThunder> Hello, should I download amd64 ISO file for inter 64bit cpu?
[09:58] <CaptainMorgan> acalvo, and I don't agree? I beg differ -- I use them extensively.
[09:58] <AnnonyMouse> CaptainMorgan : man is the be-all & end-all. also look @ info, apropos, & whatis
[09:58] <dyess002> can't find it, maybe i am looking wrong
[09:58] <CaptainMorgan> AnnonyMouse, why am I getting this attention? Flannel you around?
[09:58] <AnnonyMouse> CaptainMorgan :  hencce the term "RTFM"
[09:58] <matitaccia> AnnonyMouse, no, I just would like to open the file, and read the presentation. I don't know why this professor used that crappy file format instead of the normal .ppt
[09:58] <CaptainMorgan> AnnonyMouse, RTFM yourself
[09:58] <acalvo> THE_MAC, I know it works
[09:59] <AnnonyMouse> hehehe
[09:59] <calwig> Hello, How does the 2200/2916 intel card work with Ubuntu?
[09:59] <Ademan> CaptainMorgan: you're being overly hostile towards an honest attempt to help you, that's why you're getting attention...
[09:59] <calwig> Wifi miniPCI card
[09:59] <acalvo> THE_MAC, and I believe it works by default
[09:59] <ga_bash> how does nvidia card work with ubuntu?
[09:59] <AnnonyMouse> matitaccia : if it's a prez, then OpenOffice
[09:59] <CaptainMorgan> Ademan, I WAS NOT looking for help
[09:59] <THE_MAC> ok .. how do i get it to work or make ubuntu see it ??
[09:59] <Macfuddy> All my applets dissapeared
[09:59] <acalvo> calwig, iti should work well
[09:59] <CaptainMorgan> Ademan, I suggest you go BACK and check the conversation - I never contacted you.
[10:00] <acalvo> THE_MAC, do a dmesg | grep linksys
[10:00] <matitaccia> AnnonyMouse, ... I'll try to open it from OO.
[10:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Macfuddy: applets?
[10:00] <acalvo> THE_MAC, that should tell you if it is being recognaized
[10:00] <THE_MAC> where do i do that
[10:00] <CaptainMorgan> no. You contacted me about man pages and assumed I knew nothing about them. I NEVER contacted you.
[10:00] <CaptainMorgan> Ademan,
[10:00] <THE_MAC> terminal ?
[10:00] <painted> what's a good cpp compiler for ubuntu
[10:00] <acalvo> THE_MAC, alt+f2, gnome-terminal
[10:01] <Macfuddy> yeas, the little things up by the date and volume control
[10:01] <Ademan> CaptainMorgan: you, uh, need to chill out, but you're right, I meant to respond to CaptainAwesome in the first place... heh
[10:01] <calwig> acalvo: as far as roaming, software wise and compatibility, does it depend on the model of the computer? or should it work with most models that support the miniPCI ? For example I have an intel 3945 or the such and works well with the dell 6400
[10:01] <Macfuddy> like nm-applet and the suchlike
[10:01] <jamelon> i have old PC Pentuim1 , cpu 233, ram32 , any good OP for it? :D
[10:01] <Paddy_EIRE> Macfuddy: so you just re-add them
[10:01] <matitaccia> AnnonyMouse, cross fingers... It's trying to import it.
[10:01] <Bob_Dole> Pentium MMXs can still browse text-based web with a few pictures... but flash content kills them'
[10:01] <mechdave> painted, gcc is the compiler, to install it sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:02] <andycas> could someone recommend me a data recovery program for usb thumb drive? Drive has had 2 quick formats on it, very few writes on it and the file im trying to recover is in size about 1-3KB big
[10:02] <CaptainMorgan> Sorry. But when someone is mistakenly trying to force something and I have no clue why they're doing it, contacting me out of the blue -- you might see why I'd be responsive
[10:02] <AnnonyMouse> jamelon :  that's streatchingg it a bit. may b ok for a VoIP server or to run damnsmall on
[10:02] <acalvo> calwig, it does not depend on the model of computer -- maybe on the chipset that controls the miniPCI
[10:02] <matitaccia> AnnonyMouse, ... looks like OO is crashing.
[10:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Macfuddy: right click the panel that they where on and  then click "add to panel"
[10:02] <Kilominha> hm is php-cgi borked? I dont get anything in apache2/mods-enabled so it cant be started
[10:02] <painted> mechdave, what about dev C++
[10:02] <aaroninfidel> has anyone ever done ubuntu on a usb key with a mac?
[10:02] <CaptainMorgan> acalvo, AnnonyMouse, take note of what Ademan said, thanks.
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> wl
[10:03] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | aaroninfidel
[10:03]  * Bob_Dole had a Pentium MMX clocked at 285mhz once. used it for listening to music and browsing the web...2 years ago.
[10:03] <matitaccia> AnnonyMouse, ... lol... just a bunch of nonsense chars
[10:03] <Guest94171> hi
[10:03] <Macfuddy> can't find nm-applet
[10:03] <mechdave> painted, gcc will do c and c++
[10:03] <calwig> acalvo: ah ok, well i only do intel pcis, no VIAs or any other
[10:03] <aaroninfidel> Paddy_EIRE: yeah yeah... I was asking because I need help doing it.
[10:03] <Ademan> Bob_Dole: man, that makes even my machine look speedy
[10:03] <calwig> acalvo: all the hardware i purchase is intel
[10:03] <acalvo> calwig, then you shouldn't have any trouble
[10:04] <mechdave> painted, included in gcc is g++ which is a c++ compiler
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> aaroninfidel: it goes in the notification area anyway.. its not individually added
[10:04] <Guest94171> [SiS] 771/671  VGA  driver !!
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> errr Macfuddy
[10:04] <Ademan> mechdave: g++ isn't installed with the gcc *package* though is it?
[10:04] <Bob_Dole> Ademan, I have a pentium MMX 133mhz laptop with 24MB of RAM, too. But my main desktop is a 2.8ghz Core 2 Duo @3.4ghz, with 4GB of PC6400 DDR2 RAM.
[10:04] <Guest94171> Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks
[10:04] <acalvo> Ademan, you should install build-essential instead
[10:04] <mechdave> Ademan, I thought so... but I could be wrong
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> aaroninfidel: better to ask complete questions thats all :P
[10:04] <Macfuddy> nm-applet is not in the list
[10:04] <VBNewUser> Has anyone experienced Skype crashes after upgrading from Ubuntu 8.10 (64 bit) to Ubuntu 9.04 (again 64 bit)?
[10:04] <painted> how come ubuntu programs use so much less hard drive space than window counterparts
[10:04] <aaroninfidel> Paddy_EIRE: alright thanks.
[10:05] <Paddy_EIRE> Macfuddy: read the last thing I said
[10:05] <Ademan> Bob_Dole: and that rig makes all of my machines look like piles of slag... lol
[10:05] <calwig> acalvo: because i have now a truemobile card, but it doesnt support wpa2, and whatever WEP it supports it functions with a huge overload of struggle and my throughput is max 50KBps, i have thought its the encryption that is causing that, because my other laptop with the better intel card, does up to 1.9MBPS with WPA2 so
[10:05] <acalvo> painted, because they do not bring crap to your computer
[10:05] <Paddy_EIRE> Macfuddy: it goes in the notification area anyway.. its not individually added
[10:05] <Ademan> painted: because they share very large parts of their code with each other (the byproduct of this is that each program has umpteen billion different dependencies) it makes them more compact on disk and in memory
[10:05] <Macfuddy> but it is not there
[10:05] <acalvo> calwig, what chip does it have?
[10:05] <aaroninfidel> know where I can find an ISO of ubuntu that has efi enabled for booting on mac? it was said here that its possible http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=869324
[10:06] <daacosta> join #locombia
[10:06] <Bob_Dole> Ademan, the ATI Radeon HD 3850 doesn't hurt either ;D  But yeah..lots of flash still makes firefox act like it was running on the Pentium MMX, though @,@
[10:06] <Macfuddy> it is gone
[10:06] <Ademan> aaroninfidel: amanda-b is wrestling with that at the moment
[10:06] <painted> mechdave, i installed build-essential but I do not see g++ under applications
[10:06] <tbtroj> I am using Ubuntu 9.04, and I have a printer connected to a Windows computer on my network, but I can't access the printer (trying to set it up using the "System>Administration>Printing" dialog)
[10:06] <Ademan> Bob_Dole: haha yeah, I can't wait for gnash to move along
[10:06] <matitaccia> AnnonyMouse, oohh fuck.... you can't open *.mdi files under linux.
[10:06] <matitaccia> nore convert them
[10:06] <tbtroj> (Oh, the dialog closes when I try to browse for a Windows printer)
[10:06] <Macfuddy> nor is it in the list that I get when I click add to panel
[10:06] <Ademan> painted: it's a command line program ,if you want an IDE you want anjuta or kdevelop
[10:06] <aaroninfidel> Ademan: so when shes figures it out... are they going to release an iso I can have? :D
[10:06] <acalvo> painted, could you try from a terminal g++ --version?
[10:06] <Bob_Dole> Scrolling to the bottom of a page shouldn't take 3 minutes on a machine of this caliber!
[10:07] <TheSaint> Anyone using Skype on Ubuntu 9?
[10:07] <AnnonyMouse> matitaccia, you can open pretty much anything; just have to find the right app
[10:07] <mechdave> painted, it is used on the command line eg: g++ -o executable_file_name file_to_compile
[10:07] <amanda-b> aaroninfidel, the standard i386 isos will work
[10:07] <calwig> 600M = Truemobile 1300 (the poorer card for wpa2) although with no encryption it works normal, but still lacks much more than any other cards. i6400 = Intel Wireless PRO 3946 or so and i can be over 200 meters away from an access point (as I am now) and be online, its a-ma-zing
[10:07] <matitaccia> AnnonyMouse, ... and have the time for it. ;-) Thx.
[10:07] <acalvo> aaroninfidel, you can use refit instead, and install ubuntu then
[10:07] <Ademan> painted: or eclipse-cdt
[10:07] <AnnonyMouse> what is the app ?
[10:07] <Ademan> !efi | aaroninfidel
[10:08] <AnnonyMouse> matitaccia :  mdi from what app?
[10:08] <Ademan> aw man...
[10:08] <aaroninfidel> amanda-b: they'll work when booting from usb? which type of format do you use for the usb fat32?
[10:08] <Bob_Dole> I have refit on my iMac. And had ubuntu, but it didn't like the idea of pairing with my wireless keyboard...
[10:08] <Paddy_EIRE> the bot seems to be down.... again
[10:08] <Paddy_EIRE> someone twating around with it
[10:09] <painted> mechdave, meh... i'd rather use an IDE than commandline
[10:09] <acalvo> calwig, "The TrueMobile 1300 is a 54g(TM) wireless LAN mini-PCI card based on Broadcom's BCM4306/BCM2050 chipset"
[10:09] <AnnonyMouse> matitaccia :  if they insist on giving you files in some crappy windoze app, you can always run the win app inside wine
[10:09] <matitaccia> AnnonyMouse, ... I think it was made with Office from microsoft. As far as I can see from uncle google.
[10:09] <aaroninfidel> acalvo: that won't work. it wouldn't boot because rEFIt doesn't support legacy booting very well.
[10:09] <Macfuddy> paddy_EIRE: the pidgin thing, the deluge thing and the nm-applet thing are all gone from my top right panel thing
[10:09] <acalvo> painted, it's a shame, that chipset is reverse-engineering, so it won't work perfectly, nor support all the encryption protocols
[10:10] <Ademan> painted: did you see the IDES i mentioned?
[10:10] <skoef> 2
[10:10] <matitaccia> AnnonyMouse, yeah. I'm not such an expert to install wine and all the other stuff in a reasonable amount of time. I really need a windows machine.
[10:10] <tbtroj> Macfuddy, sounds like your system notifications is gone ;]
[10:10] <painted> yes, i did, ademan, thank you
[10:10] <Macfuddy> but the volume thing works fine
[10:10] <Paddy_EIRE> Macfuddy: I already told you to re-add the notification area twice
[10:10] <acalvo> aaroninfidel, well, I've it in my iMac and macbook
[10:10] <amanda-b> aaroninfidel, you said boot on an efi box i thought, eg a mac. i boot from the internal hard drive on the mac. i've never attempted to boot from a usb drive.
[10:10] <mechdave> painted, sorry I am a cli compiling guy, even with fancy ide's I still use the command line... I find it much more powerful. You could possibly try eclipse tho
[10:10] <matitaccia> AnnonyMouse,  and someone willing/able to convert that in some normal format.
[10:10] <Ademan> painted: no problem, just making sure you saw them, there are a few more, less popular options, but anjuta, kdevelop or eclipse-cdt are probably your best bets for an IDE
[10:10] <FezK> hey guys, what core number does my ati x1400 relate to? is it above r500??
[10:10] <Macfuddy> hey, it works
[10:11] <calwig> acalvo: correct, and the bcm4306 has an issue with the rev.2 and 3 and 4, so im trying to move away from those issues, it also conflicts (as a dell defect) with the intel pro 1000 wired card, so im trying to get the bcm4306 out
[10:11] <tbtroj> Macfuddy, right click the panel up top, select "Add to panel" and find "Notification Area" and click on it and hit the "add" button
[10:11] <Macfuddy> no, I got it
[10:11] <aaroninfidel> acalvo: I was specifically talking about booting from usb devices.
[10:11]  * Macfuddy thanks
[10:11] <aaroninfidel> amanda-b: oh ok.
[10:11] <AnnonyMouse> matitaccia : no hassles. go to apps, add/remove, pick wine. once installis finished, install the file-reading app per usual & off u go!
[10:12] <acalvo> aaroninfidel, ok ok, didn't get that
[10:12] <aaroninfidel> amanda-b: apparently it works well once you enable grub for efi booting, but I can't find an iso that has it enabled.
[10:12] <matitaccia> AnnonyMouse, kk... could give it a try. Thanks.
[10:12] <Ademan> painted: oh also vim :-p (no not really, well, sorta, vim was like driving nails under my fingernails for a while, but it actually broke me of my IDE habit, I'm much faster now with vim than I ever was with visual studio)
[10:12] <YaManicKill> can someone say my name? cause i'm testing something out?
[10:12] <amanda-b> aaroninfidel, i had no problem installing ubuntu server on my mac, 9.04, using the standard iso.
[10:13] <Ademan> YaManicKill:
[10:13] <painted> how do you mount an iso with ubuntu
[10:13] <YaManicKill> Ademan: thanks :D
[10:13] <YaManicKill> it works :D
[10:13] <gordonjcp> painted: mount -o loop thing.iso /path/to/mountpoint
[10:13] <Ademan> YaManicKill: no problem, did you set up a notification or something?
[10:13] <FezK> painted: try gmountiso
[10:13] <YaManicKill> Ademan: aye...i've set it up to send it to notify-osd :D
[10:13] <gordonjcp> YaManicKill: have enough people said your name yet
[10:13] <aaroninfidel> amanda-b: agree'd its worked for me like that, but my mac's HD is quite small, and I need all the space I can get, if I can boot from usb it'd be ideal.
[10:13] <YaManicKill> gordonjcp: yeah thanls :D
[10:13] <mechdave> painted, you sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /where/it/is/to/be/mounted
[10:13] <painted> what is the -o for?
[10:14] <YaManicKill> s/thanls/thanks/
[10:14] <Ademan> YaManicKill: nifty, did you write anything yourself? you should post it somewhere if you did
[10:14] <FezK> painted: or this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[10:14] <amanda-b> aaroninfidel, i dunno if that's possible, as the usb subsystem is kernel-dependent ...
[10:14] <YaManicKill> Ademan: no...i managed to find an irssi script somewhere
[10:14] <Ademan> YaManicKill: ah, haha
[10:14] <YaManicKill> http://tinyurl.com/o65uuh
[10:14] <jamelon> i have question, Photoshop or adobe products will work under Ubuntu?
[10:14] <YaManicKill> i'm not that clever :P
[10:14] <amanda-b> jamelon: wine.
[10:14] <Ademan> :-p
[10:14] <aaroninfidel> amanda-b: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=869324 it says here its possible.
[10:14] <amanda-b> aaroninfidel, good luck then.
[10:15] <aaroninfidel> amanda-b: :P yeah.. thanks
[10:15]  * YaManicKill is happy
[10:15] <AnnonyMouse> !kvm
[10:15] <Ademan> jamelon: http://appdb.winehq.org will let you know if they work under wine, some do some don't, and some sortof work, I can look up a few for you if you'd like.  Alternatively you could run windows in a VM for photoshop and whatnot
[10:15] <Bob_Dole> jamelon, Some under WINE.. last I tried(about 3 updates ago, i think) CS3 didn't work. But I mostly use the GIMP, and don't use photoshop even on windows systems where it's installed.
[10:16] <mechdave> painted, if you type man mount into a terminal it will give you a manual page about mount. This is the case for most programs in ubuntu. The -o is an option
[10:16] <Ademan> Bob_Dole: I think cs3 is still in the same state but i'm not positive
[10:16] <AnnonyMouse> last call b4 bed-tiem: no one here updated a bad KVM patch?
[10:16] <calwig> acalvo: i just want to know if there is a person here or if there is a well documented and tested site where i can see that 2200 or 2916 are well supported up to 8.04/9.04 so i can get the wifi card and either load the module or compile it (though it may already be well in the kernel) By the way, have you got any opinions about MIMO?
[10:16] <JohnSourcer> help help help
[10:16] <JohnSourcer> qq
[10:16] <Ademan> !ask JohnSourcer
[10:16] <Ademan> !ask | JohnSourcer
[10:16] <jamelon> thanks folks ^_^
[10:16] <JohnSourcer> noob here: got 9.04 installed and have kicked windows
[10:16] <mechdave> painted, it accepts a comma seperated list of options
[10:16] <AnnonyMouse> !wifi
[10:16] <JohnSourcer> I am running an Nvidia driver
[10:17] <indus> hi
[10:17] <Paddy_EIRE> !enter | JohnSourcer
[10:17] <indus> folks ^_^
[10:17] <JohnSourcer> lol. whenever I reboot my desktop revets to 800x600?
[10:17] <TheSaint> Skype crashes after upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 (64-bit). Has anyone experienced this?
[10:18] <AnnonyMouse> JohnSourcer: use EnvyNG
[10:18] <Ademan> egad, the chromium daily builds are horrific! lol (not that I should expect any more from pre-pre-alpha software...)
[10:18] <AnnonyMouse> TheSaint : I had issues under 64
[10:18] <mechdave> JohnSourcer, Welcome to Ubuntu, if you have a question please ask it and we will do our best to answer
[10:18] <AnnonyMouse> TheSaint : resolved by using ubuntu-tweak
[10:18] <painted> mechdave, how do you compile with g++?
[10:18] <painted> it gave me no input files when i tried what you said
[10:19] <Ademan> painted: from the command line?   g++ foo.cpp -o foo
[10:19] <JohnSourcer> excellent
[10:19] <Ademan> that compiles foo.cpp and creates the executable file foo
[10:19] <Bob_Dole> I hate how everytime I use a CRT, Ubuntu refuses to allow me a resolution above 640x480(usually) or 800x600(occasionally).. But the 1 system using a CRT is gone, so it no longer affects me. :|
[10:20] <AnnonyMouse> I get this issue when trying to load the KVM critical patch: http://pastebin.com/m53670cc4
[10:20] <jamelon> ubuntu system can be installed under HDD partition NTFS?
[10:20] <painted> thanks ademan, and where is foo located at?
[10:20] <Ademan> painted: -o is output just for the record, I've seen people write  g++ -o foo foo.cpp   which apparently works, but I prefer the first way since it's more clear
[10:20] <Ademan> painted: the current directory
[10:20] <Bob_Dole> jamelon, I think wubi allows it, but it emulates the ext3 filesystem and causes a performance hit.
[10:21] <mechdave> painted, try this url, it is very basic but it may be of some use (I am assuming you already know how to write a c++ program) --> http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~beechung/ref/gcc-intro.html
[10:21] <Bob_Dole> and I think it has to be installed from within windows that way, too, jamelon
[10:21] <Ademan> painted: if you wanted something different:   g++ foo -o /home/painted/some/where/else/foo
[10:21] <jamelon> good, thank you ^_^
[10:21] <Paddy_EIRE> Ademan: lmao... he is asking where "foo" is located
[10:22] <AnnonyMouse> jamelon : u can run ubuntu as an "app" on win, or resize your HDD partition & to a proper install. rather add another disk or external USB drive
[10:22] <Ademan> Paddy_EIRE: oh.... lol
[10:22]  * Bob_Dole doesn't use windows, so hasn't a clue about wubi.
[10:22] <gordonjcp> painted: you'll probably want to look into some sort of build system, like either a Makefile or SCons or something
[10:22] <painted> ademan, where is the current directory? I think it compiled but id on't know where it put it
[10:22] <Ademan> painted: the current directory is wherever you are. if you type ls, it will show you the contents of the current directory, and you should see the compiled file
[10:22] <mechdave> painted, what are you trying to compile?
[10:23] <painted> mechdave, just a cout program
[10:23] <painted> i'm just trying to see how this gcc thing works
[10:23] <Ademan> painted: what command did you use to compile it? (just copy and paste)
[10:23] <jamelon> i'm thinking to install ubunto  in external Hdd, thanks :)
[10:23] <painted> ademan, thank you very much
[10:23] <jamelon> ubunru*
[10:23] <mechdave> painted, try g++ -o program.out program.cpp
[10:23] <ValentineX> why i cannot boot jaunty aunty with usb :(
[10:23] <jamelon> ufff, ubuntu*
[10:24] <stanman1> anyone running openvz on ubuntu?
[10:24] <ValentineX> mechdave: that is not easy method to compile, is there any easy method in ubuntu to work with c? for beginners
[10:24] <Ademan> painted: oh you've got it under control now? nevermind then, I don't need to see the command
[10:24] <Ademan> ValentineX: use an IDE like eclipse-cdt anjuta or kdevelop
[10:24] <simplexio> ValentineX: apt-get install build-essentials
[10:25] <Ademan> mechdave: why *do* some people put the output file first? it always seemed far less clear to me...
[10:25] <painted> ademan, how do i run the command in terminal to see if it compiled correctly?
[10:25] <Ademan> painted: ./foo
[10:25] <Ademan> where foo is the name you put after -o in your compile command
[10:25] <mechdave> ValentineX, that's how I started out, although you can switch around the command like this --> g++ program.cpp -o program.out
[10:25] <ValentineX> Ademan: netbeans that is in ubuntu supported?
[10:26] <skazhy> Hi! How do I add network folders in PCMan folder manager?
[10:26] <ValentineX> simplexio: what that will install
[10:26] <painted> ./ is the command for run?
[10:26] <Ademan> ValentineX: I don't know about "supported" but yeah you can install and use netbeans with their c development plugin
[10:26] <jamelon> thanks for the help, see you later folks ^_^
[10:26] <mechdave> Ademan, it is just how the man page did it in RedHat 5.04, that is where I learned C++
[10:26] <jamelon> byeeeee
[10:27] <Ademan> painted: actually no, . is the current directory, and / is the path separator so you're saying    ./foo    (in the current directory, the file foo) it runs runnable things if they're the first thing in your command
[10:28] <painted> ademan, why can't I just type foo instead of ./foo then
[10:28] <JGodbout> My sound just suddenly died (8.04) I installed Rosegarden, jackd, Qjackctl, and timidity (which wouldn't install properly, had some sort of error at the end of the apt-get install, so I then apt-get removed it). Now, no sound will work at all. In totem and rhythmbox, I get the error "Failed to connect stream, Invalid argument". In Preferences->Sound, when I click Test for any of the options, I get the error "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 !
[10:28] <mechdave> painted, you need to tell the computer where the file is you want to run
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> painted: you can if you symlink it.. put it in /usr/bin
[10:29] <Ademan> painted: a command is more or less setup like     [thing to run] [options]  so actually the only reason why you can't just run foo is because [thing to run] needs to have an explicit path OR be located in your $PATH variable. which contains a list of directories to look in
[10:29] <ValentineX> i am using pidgin of linux in xp :D
[10:29] <ValentineX> xp is slow :(
[10:29] <Ademan> Paddy_EIRE: eugh!
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> Ademan: :P
[10:29] <AnnonyMouse> ValentineX : Y?
[10:29] <painted> i see, thank you paddy and ademan
[10:29] <Ademan> no problem painted, I tend to ramble so I hope that made sense...
[10:29] <painted> if i compile an exe under ubuntu, it wouldn't run under windows, would it?
[10:30] <mechdave> painted, nope
[10:30] <Ademan> painted: no, not the way we showed you
[10:30] <painted> not at all, ademan, it makes a lot of sense, your rambling
[10:30] <Ademan> painted: there are ways to "cross compile" for windows though
[10:30] <ValentineX> AnnonyMouse: i dont know ubuntu was fast but i formated my disks now waiting for my ubuntu 9.04 cd then will install ubuntu again
[10:30] <JGodbout> I'm going to restart my computer, please have an answer ready when I get back :)
[10:30] <JGodbout> brb 1 min
[10:30] <simplexio> ValentineX: gcc (compiler) some needed stuff for compile, for idea anjuta, eclipse and netbeans are easy, some say that nano is good editor and some say that vi is best ever
[10:30] <mechdave> painted, it is possible to do what is called cross compile, but that is a lot more complicated than what we have shown you
[10:31] <painted> mechdave, okay, not interested in cross compiling, i was just curious :)
[10:31] <mechdave> painted, phew :)
[10:31] <Ademan> mechdave: not interested in dealing with mingw? :-p
[10:31] <painted> i kinda like gcc, mechdave, ademan
[10:31] <ValentineX> simplexio: i save your line will try that
[10:31] <TheSaint> AnnonyMouse: what ubuntu tweak are you referring to?
[10:31] <painted> it seems much simpler
[10:31] <Ademan> painted: cool! it's the best :-)
[10:31] <painted> plus i like playing around with terminal
[10:32] <mechdave> Ademan, what is mingw?
[10:32] <simplexio> ValentineX: for fast start you dont need anything else than build-essential and text editor
[10:32] <Ademan> painted: the terminal will quickly become a very powerful tool for you, i'm sure, especially if you're interested in exploring it
[10:32] <acalvo> does the netmix version of ubuntu fits on an old p3 notebook?
[10:32] <YaManicKill> wooop got the firefox and thunderbird addons for notify-osd as well
[10:32] <YaManicKill> :D
[10:32] <Ademan> mechdave: a port of gcc to windows, which was ported (back to?) linux/bsd for cross compiling for windows
[10:32] <painted> ademan, I used windows all my life, so it seems so crazy that I can download and install programs all from a single terminal command... :D
[10:33] <ValentineX> simplexio: what is text editor, like notepad in xp?
[10:33] <mechdave> painted, it is very different to using windows, I have used some kind of Linux for last 10 years, I now have problems with windows :/
[10:33] <Ademan> painted: yeah! apt-get is the original reason why I stuck with ubuntu after I tried it
[10:33] <simplexio> ValentineX: yeh.. something to use write code, i learned my C using nano as editor and gcc as compiler
[10:33] <Ademan> mechdave: I can't tell  you how frustrating it is working on windows machines these days...
[10:33] <AnnonyMouse> TheSaint : http://ubuntu-tweak.com/ is ALL the propietary software I use
[10:33] <YaManicKill> mechdave: i struggle using windows now as well :P
[10:34] <mrpurple> hello i'm running ubuntu 9.04 64bit yesterday i try to install the driver linux for xerox phaser 6128mfp provided in the cd for redhat is RPM file. with a friend running on ubuntu 32 we try to use alien to convert it in deb. Then i forced the architecture for the installation but didn't work. there is a solution ?
[10:34] <AnnonyMouse> including skype
[10:34] <Ademan> it doesn't help that my gnome setup is way different from windows' taskbar setup...
[10:34] <simplexio> painted: tell me more about i, i just cursed why i have to first search and download free ms sql test versio, then click 10 times before its installed
[10:34] <painted> lmao @ simplexio
[10:34] <mrpurple> here the driver page http://www.support.xerox.com/go/results.asp?Xtype=download&prodID=6128MFP&Xlang=en_US&Xcntry=USA
[10:34] <painted>  ademan, what kind of gnome set up you got?
[10:34] <simplexio> i have built my windows dev virtual machine for 5 days now.. i got ubuntu dev machine up in 1 day
[10:34] <mechdave> Ademan, windows now is like a major step back... I tend to open a dos window and wonder why ls doesn't work, then I realise I am in windows and not Linux
[10:34] <TheSaint> AnnonyMouse: Thanks. I am looking at that. But in my case, I had no issues with Skype on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit
[10:35] <ValentineX> simplexio: nano is already installed in ubuntu?
[10:35] <TheSaint> AnnonyMouse: it is only after I upgraded to 9,04, Skype crashes/ hangs silently.
[10:35] <AnnonyMouse> i used skyp on all my 64 ubuntu's. there was/is issues w pulse audio
[10:35] <TheSaint> AnnonyMouse: It appears that I am online, but the program does not respond.
[10:36] <TheSaint> AnnonyMouse: I have had some issue with 8.04 in the past wrt audio. But that got fixed with the upgrade to 8.10
[10:36] <mechdave> painted,  you are new to Ubuntu?
[10:36] <AnnonyMouse> TheSaint : I had crached w skype plug-ins & still do to some extent, especially my stype-piding plug-in
[10:36] <painted> mechdave, one week new so far, and liking it a lot
[10:36] <homeskill> does ubuntu use a memory hierarchy, whereby CPU registers, dram, ram chips, virtual memory, etc, are all part of the overall memory system?
[10:36] <dino__> i need help from someone   with a problem installing drivers for my Polaroid digital camera
[10:36] <TheSaint> AnnonyMouse: "crached" == crashed?
[10:36] <AnnonyMouse> yes
[10:36] <njamin> @mechdave - I think Powershell has fixed that http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/management/powershell/default.mspx (correct me if I'm wrong)
[10:36] <AnnonyMouse> homeskill : check devices under /dev & /prov
[10:36] <mj___> my firefox has spaced out wide fonts tried remove then reinstall--no luck still the same--greatly thankful for any ideals
[10:37] <q_> is there a terminal stopwatch?
[10:37] <Iderik> www.thezeitgeistmovement.com
[10:37] <mechdave> painted, what I did was go out and buy a dictionary of unix commands, many of the commands are the same in Linux, although you may be able to buy a gnu command dictionary now days
[10:37] <robin0800> 1
[10:37] <AnnonyMouse> mj___ : move your ~/.mozilla/firefox somewhere safe & restart FF
[10:37] <YaManicKill> http://svn.df7cb.de/debian/irssi-scripts/trunk/scripts/tinyurl.pl
[10:37] <painted> mechdave, i found this site http://www.linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[10:38] <painted> no need for dictionary :D
[10:38] <robin0800> act 1
[10:38] <mj___> ok i try that thanx
[10:38] <TheSaint> AnnonyMouse: Does ubuntu tweak have something in specific for Skype?
[10:38] <AnnonyMouse> TheSaint : just does the install very nicely 7 pretty stable
[10:39] <dino__> can someone tell me where to find drivers for a polariod digital camera
[10:39] <TheSaint> AnnonyMouse: I have already got Skype installed. Do I need to uninstall that first?
[10:40] <mechdave> painted, looks good, I shall bookmark that one, thanks :)
[10:40] <AnnonyMouse> TheSaint : not a requirement, but makes installing those apps a snap
[10:40] <painted> you're quite welcome, mechdave :D
[10:40] <AnnonyMouse> no hacking & linking 32 to 64 bit libs & etc
[10:40] <robin0800> man irssi
[10:40] <andycas> How to recover bin files with foremost, any ideas please?
[10:40] <AnnonyMouse> andycas : ???
[10:41] <dino__> painted : can i get some help please
[10:41] <painted> what you need dino_
[10:41] <dino__> need help finding drivers for my polariod diggy cam
[10:41] <andycas> AnnonyMouse: Well it only recovers known file types, i lost a firmware due to a quick format. I created an image with gddrescue and ran foremost on it, but it only recovered some pictures and rar files... non essential stuff
[10:42] <Ademan> andycas: bin files should start with 7F ELF  but you could probably search for just ELF
[10:42] <dino__> i have the i534
[10:42] <AnnonyMouse> andycas : disk recovery is extremely difficult; I've not had much luck w it
[10:43] <mechdave> njamin, interesting to see a UNIX shell on windows
[10:43] <painted> dino_, i don't know much about finding drivers... try...  System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[10:43] <q_> whats the fastest way to find a PID?
[10:43] <painted> dino_, that program found all my drivers
[10:43] <tiz> Hi all... is there a way to force a reboot remotely when "reboot" isn't doing the job?  It claims to be bringing the box down but 20minuts later I can still ssh in :(
[10:43] <dino__> thanks  ill try really fast
[10:43] <pellefrank> what library do i have to install if i get this message: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmk4
[10:44] <mechdave> tiz, is ssh enabled as a startup service?
[10:44] <bingungaja> what's this mean ? "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libltdl3 (>= 1.5.2-2)"
[10:44] <Ademan> andycas: assuming by bin files you mean executables and shared libraries that is... otherwise you can probably search for the "magic numbers" for other file types, png files start with PNG and jpg starts with JPG I believe, but you'd want to google that, the magic number is usually 4 bytes, so i think png is actually "PNG "  you should be able to rather easily find png files searching for that
[10:44] <tiz> mechdave: Yes
[10:44] <Ademan> bingungaja: either that library isn't in the repositories, or it conflicts with something you already have installed
[10:44] <tiz> I think it's a wedged NFS mount that's causing it not to reboot
[10:44] <mechdave> tiz, how are you communicating with this box at the moment?
[10:45] <tiz> mechdave: SSH, obviously.
[10:45] <maynards-girl> k9copy is crashing. what else can i use to extra a dvd to .iso ?
[10:45] <bingungaja> Ademan: any idea how to fix that ? i want to install gyachi
[10:46] <tiz> mechdave: Why is that relevant?
[10:46] <Ademan> bingungaja: run   apt-cache search libltdl3 and see if it shows it, first of all, if not then make sure you have the right repositories enabled (you can do that easily from synaptic)
[10:46] <mechdave> tiz, sorry I misread your question, reboot will only reboot the machine... it will startup again and be fully functional, if you want it to stay down try sudo poweroff
[10:46] <robin0800> cycle%
[10:47] <tiz> mechdave: You might still be misundrstanding... I have issued the reboot command, but no reboot has occurred.
[10:47] <tiz> SSH and friends are still running.
[10:47] <tiz> Nothing seems to have been killed.
[10:47] <robin0800> CYCLE %|rockbox
[10:47] <robin0800> CYCLE %|#rockbox
[10:47] <tiz> So I'm looking for a "more forceful" kind of reboot, maybe one that doesn't bother cleanly stopping thigns
[10:47] <Ademan> robin0800: uh... what are you doing?
[10:47] <mechdave> tiz, righto, and you used sudo to obtain root priv for the command?
[10:48] <tbtroj> tiz, hold power button?
[10:48] <tiz> Yes, and I get the message saying the machine is goign down
[10:48] <tiz> tbtroj: My arm doesn't stretch the 5 miles it would need to :)
[10:48] <Ademan> tiz: can you force unmount nfs?
[10:48] <mechdave> tiz but uptime is telling you it has not rebooted?
[10:48] <tbtroj> tiz, ah, didn't realize it was a server, I just came back.
[10:49] <robin0800> CYCLE %|[rockbox]
[10:49] <tbtroj> s/server/remote machine/
[10:49] <tbtroj> robin0800, can I help you?
[10:49] <tiz> Ademan: Nope... it's in use by programs that I can't kill because the NFS mount has broken :(
[10:49] <tiz> (God, I hate NFS)
[10:49] <tiz> The things using the NFS won't die even with kill -KILL
[10:50] <pro-rsoft> I'm only getting a wireless connection *after* I logged in to gnome. What could be the problem?
[10:50] <Ademan> tiz: egh, I dunno if shutdown -r now would do what you wanted, that's probably what reboot is an alias for, but it might be worth a whirl
[10:50] <tbtroj> pro-rsoft, what's the problem exactly?
[10:50] <pro-rsoft> do I need to add my wifi interface to /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:50] <pro-rsoft> tbtroj, I dont use gnome that often
[10:50] <pro-rsoft> tbtroj, I normally only use cmdline, without logging into gnome
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> pro-rsoft: That's what Network Manager does by default - you may be able to use the checkbox for "is a system setting"
[10:51] <pro-rsoft> hm
[10:51] <pro-rsoft> wher can I find that setting?
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> pro-rsoft: manually configuring the interface would work too
[10:51] <tiz> Ademan: Same result, but ta for the suggestion.
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> pro-rsoft: It's somewhere in the N-M dialogues.
[10:51] <tiz> Ah well, looks like I'll have to wait till I get home.
[10:51] <tiz> Ta for trying peeps.
[10:51] <q_> tiz, you can kill different ways you know?
[10:51] <pro-rsoft> nm-system-settings? ok
[10:51] <bingungaja> Ademan: it shows "libltdl7-dev - A system independent dlopen wrapper for GNU libtool
[10:51] <bingungaja> "
[10:51] <Ademan> tiz: no problem... sorry nothing's working :-/ kill -9 on the offending processes doesn't work either?
[10:52] <mechdave> tiz, I don't know of anything, maybe you might have to go for a 5 mile drive?
[10:52] <tiz> Ademan: kill -9 is the same as kill -KILL I believe, which as I said I've tried.
[10:52] <tiz> I'll give it a go though
[10:52] <pro-rsoft> tiz, isnt kill -9 the same as kill -HUP ?
[10:52] <painted> ademan, i want a text editor with transparent background so i can match it with my command terminal, can you help me
[10:52] <pro-rsoft> tiz, oh wait sorr
[10:52] <pro-rsoft> hmm
[10:52] <q_> tiz, http://www.linuxcommand.org/lts0080.php#killing_a_process
[10:52] <aar_> Hi, I find the font highlighting colour a bit too dark in ooffice 3.1 (under ubuntu hardy). Is there any way of changing this?
[10:52] <tbtroj> painted, you could use a terminal editor, such as vim.
[10:52] <Ademan> tiz: I think it is, sorry I missed where you said that, I've only been sorta following your issue :-/
[10:53] <painted> tbtroj, what's a terminal editor
[10:53] <tbtroj> painted, I mean a terminal text editor. Text editor used in the terminal. (nano is a more friendly one than vim is)
[10:53] <Ademan> painted: I wouldn't use vim, I love the hell out of it, but it's definitely *not* an easy editor to learn
[10:54] <painted> hmmm, why does the idea of a text editor used in terminal not sound very easy?
[10:54] <dino__> http://www.polaroid.com/service/software/opensource/ov511.c   can someone tell me what am i suppose to do with this open source
[10:54] <painted> i just want a transparent text editor, it shouldn't be hard to find
[10:54] <dino__> so i can install it
[10:54] <Ademan> egh, gedit doesn't support transparency?... :-/
[10:54] <Ademan> painted: kate might support it, one second
[10:54] <tbtroj> gEdit should be able to have a transparent background (as you say, it shouldn't be hard to find the option)
[10:54] <tiz> q_: Thanks... no joy.  I wouldn't expect it to work though, the process is in state D which is "uninteruptable sleep" - there's virtually no circumstances in which the kernel will let such a process die because it leaves internal kernal structures in an inconsistent state.
[10:55] <Ademan> tbtroj: i'm looking for the option and I don't see it, I'm as surprised as you...
[10:55] <q_> tiz, oh, hmkay
[10:55] <brennus> ok, I have a tarball on my desktop I want to install
[10:56] <brennus> ok, so I have a tarball on my desktop I want to install, and I can't seem to do so with synaptic. how can I install it?
[10:56] <tbtroj> Ademan, wow, I just looked to.. I always thought it did, heh. Scribes or something should have it I assume..
[10:56] <aar_> Hi, I find the font highlighting colour a bit too dark in ooffice 3.1 (under ubuntu hardy). Is there any way of changing this?
[10:56] <tbtroj> I don't really feel like apt-getting random text editors right now though, heh.
[10:56] <pro-rsoft> brennus, most likely that tarball contains source code, you'll need to compile it first
[10:56] <tbtroj> brennus, what is the application you are trying to install? There is probably a .deb file somewhere for it.
[10:56] <brennus> pro-rsoft: how would I do that?
[10:56] <dino__> how do u compile a source code for installation
[10:56] <maynards-girl> what can i use to mae an iso from a dvd?
[10:57] <brennus> tbtroj: truecrypt. it's not in the repositories.
[10:57] <Ademan> ack, kate wants all of the kde deps, I don't know how I don't have them already for k3b and amarok, but I don't....
[10:57] <bingungaja> Ademan: it shows "libltdl7-dev - A system independent dlopen wrapper for GNU libtool"
[10:57] <q_> brennus, it is
[10:57] <aar_> dino__, usually it involves ./configure then make then sudo make install
[10:57] <aar_> dino__, you must have the correct libraries and dependencies though (hence the hassle of compiling normally)
[10:57] <Ademan> bingungaja: where are you getting the package for gyachi ?
[10:57] <dino__> fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[10:57] <brennus> q_: not when I search for it. I get easycrypt and another gui, but not truecrypt itself
[10:57] <pro-rsoft> brennus, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=899505
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | dino__
[10:58] <tbtroj> brennus, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-truecrypt-with-gui-tool-in-ubuntu-gutsy.html
[10:58] <dino__> that bits :))
[10:58] <pro-rsoft> brennus, first google result
[10:58] <pro-rsoft> ah
[10:58] <q_> brennus, why not taking the GUI along?
[10:58] <pro-rsoft> brennus, use tbtroj 's link
[10:58] <brennus> q_: the repositories only had the gui, not the actual app itself.
[10:58] <brennus> thanks all
[10:58] <dino__> aar_   u want to look at the source and tell me what u think ?
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> Ademan, tbtroj: From a quick peek around it appears that if gedit is capable of doing background transparency, it would be through creating a custom gtksourceview style file.  See /usr/share/gtksourceview-2.0/styles/.  (This is where colors are - I still don't know if transparency is an option.)
[10:59] <mechdave> !swear | dino__
[10:59] <q_> !language
[10:59] <mechdave> Ooh I thought ubottu would know about that
[10:59] <dino__> yea my bad didnt know i cant swear
[10:59] <tbtroj> tonyyarusso, we were looking to see if it did to suggest for someone else, thanks for the info though :P
[10:59] <bingungaja> Ademan: here .. http://ubuntusite.com/gyachie-yahoo-messenger-for-linux/
[10:59] <mechdave> q_, thanks
[11:00] <tbtroj> brennus, it says for Gutsy, but it should work for whatever version you are using, I think.
[11:00] <aar_> dino__, sorry I can't do that right now. Is there a readme file tarred with the code? It might contain instructions about installation. Else, try the ./configure/make/sudo make install option.
[11:00] <dino__> http://www.polaroid.com/service/software/opensource/ov511.c   cant someone look at this source and tell me how to compile it
[11:00] <bluegoon> Hi guys.
[11:00] <crazybyte> hi! did the signing key on herdy security repository changed? I keep getting bad signing key error on apt-get update. thank you!
[11:00] <crazybyte> err herdy/hardy
[11:00] <tbtroj> brennus, and make sure you go to the download link and select Ubuntu x86 instead of the default option for downloading.
[11:01] <c_nick> is it possible for me to go access the pidgin messenger on some other computer in ubuntu i know comp passwords
[11:01] <brennus> tbtroj: even if I have the 64-bit version/
[11:01] <mechdave> dino__, is this a kernel module?
[11:01] <Ademan> tonyyarusso: thanks for picking that one out, unfortunately I don't think a global modification for the gtksourceview widget would be terribly wise... or within the current capabilities of the user that wants it
[11:01] <tbtroj> brennus, well than get the 64 version :P (I just assumed you were using 32, sorry)
[11:01] <mechdave> dino__, on closer inspection it is a kernel module
[11:01] <dino__> its the only open source i can find for the web cam drivers on my cam
[11:02] <Ademan> can anyone confirm that kate *also* doesn't support transparency? I'm getting really surprised here...
[11:02] <q_> brennus, why do you want to complie it? there is a .deb
[11:02] <brennus> tbtroj: it's cool, I'm always welcoming advice
[11:02] <c_nick> the user had already logged on to the pidgin messenger so if i get access to his comp can i also open it and view the conversation tabs
[11:02] <dino__> i cant find a package to install on it
[11:02] <aar_> dino__, check this www out: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/compiling-c-program-and-creating-executable-file/
[11:02] <adkins> hello.i have problems with my Dell Vostro1510-Fan, it runs too often too high-its annoying. Under windows xp i can force it to run more quiet with the programm i8kfan. The i8kfan alternative programm "dellfand" always crashes the system. the usual way to control fans in ubuntu with "lmsensors" doesnt work since sensor-detect cant find any sensors. I called the dell support and they`re gonna change the fan. It has been said: "Users with this pro
[11:02] <Ademan> kate does appear to have a vi mode though ;-)
[11:02] <brennus> q_: nvm, I'm figuring it out. thank you!
[11:02] <mechdave> dino__, you need to install build-essential and the kernel headers to be able to compile that one
[11:02] <q_> brennus, k :) have fun encrypting
[11:02] <painted> shame, ademan, a transparent text editor would be awesome....
[11:03] <sacarlson> Is there any software like frostwire that still works on the Gnutella net  frostwire on Ubuntu 8.04 is broken missing .jar file. gtk-gnutella is also broken.  Would like just one that works.
[11:03] <dino__> <<<<< newbie
[11:03] <dino__> speak english
[11:03] <mechdave> painted, you can use nano or joe or vim with the terminal set to transparent
[11:03] <Ademan> painted: there's definitely one out there, tonyyarusso seems to suggest there *is* a way to make gedit do that, but it sounds like far more of a pain than it's worth to you...
[11:04] <Kartagis> on any page, flash movies are replaced with a huge play button. what may cause this?
[11:04] <dino__> ok well im ouy
[11:04] <YaManicKill> :)
[11:04] <dino__> out tc  thanks for the help i gues
[11:04] <OB1FoShoB> i broke my mythtv database, and it seems impossible to fix, rest of my desktop works like a dream, is there an alternative program i can use, just want to watch atsc in a window while working from my desktop?
[11:05] <aar_> I find the font highlighting colour a bit too dark in ooffice 3.1 (under ubuntu hardy). Is there any way of changing this or is it hard-coded?
[11:05] <mechdave> dino__, you could try #linux for help on compiling a kernel module or maybe even #kernel
[11:05] <painted> alright guys, thanks a lot for the help, it's time for me to get to sleep
[11:05] <brennus> q_: ok, so I have the .deb file; when I open it in the package installer, it won't let me hit install. ideas?
[11:05] <painted> especially ademan and mechdave
[11:05] <tbtroj> painted, look into nano, it's a terminal text editor (so it will look just like your terminal) but it is really quite easy to use.
[11:05] <mechdave> painted, no worries, glad to help a newbie :)
[11:06] <q_> brennus, no, just wanted to do the same and have the same problem
[11:06] <q_> anyone who has advice? http://q-garden.de/screens/tmp_27_29846.png
[11:06] <brennus> damn
[11:07] <OB1FoShoB> atsc alternative to mythtv?
[11:07] <Ademan> painted: no problem, happy to help, sorry we couldn't get you that transparent editor
[11:08] <tbtroj> brennus, I'm looking into it on my system, one second
[11:08] <q_> brennus, ooops, have you left synaptic open just as me?
[11:09] <brennus> q_I do not believe so
[11:09] <maynards-girl> how do you turn a dvd into an iso?
[11:09] <q_> brennus, hm, didnt solve the problem to close it
[11:10] <tbtroj> When I use the script provided in the tar.gz I get the option to install right away or extract .deb, I extracted the .deb and ran it and was able to click install right away, brennus
[11:10] <brennus> q: have you tried installing straight from the setup file within the tarball, rather than extracting the .deb?
[11:10] <Ademan> maynards-girl: a physical dvd? you'd rip it, is it a movie dvd or a data dvd?
[11:10] <Lartza_> How do I configure postfix for external mail?
[11:10] <Lartza_> I can only send localhost to localhost
[11:10] <maynards-girl> ademan, a home movie dvd
[11:10] <Lartza_> with gmail I get Relay access denied
[11:10] <dieter> Hey all.Does anyone else having problems to start up postgresql-server since the latest kernelupdate in intrepid?
[11:11] <Ademan> Lartza_: O_o people use postfix? haha erm, I'm going to be honest, I think you'll have trouble getting help for that in here
[11:11] <swiftarrow> Lartza_, you probably need a domain and a mailserver somewhere on the net to relay your mail.  You probably know more than i do tho.
[11:11] <Ademan> Lartza_: but is your gmail account setup to allow pop3 and imap access? that'd probably be helpful
[11:11] <Lartza_> What should I use then?
[11:11] <Ademan> wow, I stand corrected haha
[11:11] <Lartza_> Adweman: I'm trying to send mail regularly
[11:11] <Lartza_> swiftarrow: I have my ISP's SMTP server in use
[11:12] <Lartza_> I guess it uses it :P
[11:12] <swiftarrow> Lartza_, if you just have one account, you dont need postfix...  you need an email client like evolution.
[11:12] <q_> brennus, yes, same thing
[11:13] <Lartza_> swiftarrow: I want my own mailserver...
[11:13] <brennus> how does one change directory on the command line?
[11:13] <robin0800> 4:
[11:13] <Lartza_> swiftarrow: I have done it in windows days ago and now need it in ubunt
[11:13] <Lartza_> u
[11:13] <mechdave> Lartza_, I used sendmail as a forwarding server for my own emails once
[11:14] <swiftarrow> Lartza_, postfix, sendmail, private mailservers are for companies with big internal networks and lots of internal email communication.  If you are one of those, then don't ask me!
[11:14] <swiftarrow> I know nothing about it. truely.
[11:14] <sacarlson>  brennus: cd /directory/youwant/tocdto
[11:14] <swiftarrow> I could help you make a big mess though *scratches chin thoughtfully*
[11:14] <q_> anyone else who has problems with CheckGmail right now? (wrong password)
[11:14] <Lartza_> mechdave: So...
[11:15] <Lartza_> mechdave: I could use sendmail and not postfix
[11:15] <mechdave> Lartza_, you are just using it for your personal mail?
[11:15] <Lundt> Hello =)
[11:15] <Lartza_> mechdave: For now
[11:15] <ValentineX> Lundt: dont smile like that
[11:15] <Lundt> ValentineX: why not ?
[11:16] <resemblinghuman> Yeah, makes us nervous.
[11:16] <ValentineX> haha
[11:16] <joemac> Can anyone tell me why jaunty sets my volume to 0 after every reboot?
[11:17] <dieter> q_: Did you upgrade the kernel recently (today)?
[11:17] <q_> dieter, installed the updates today, yes
[11:17] <mechdave> Lartza_, try starting here --> http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[11:17] <Lundt> Ehm im having trouble with "Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN"
[11:17] <Lundt> It can find it in [System Testing] But it does not work..
[11:17] <Lundt> Please i need someone to guide me i can't get any guides online to work..
[11:17] <mechdave> Lartza_, that should give you a start :)
[11:18] <dieter> q_: are you using SSL to check your mail-account?
[11:18] <q_> dieter, (if there came a kernel update along, I didn't check it)
[11:18] <Lundt> Trouble with Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
[11:18] <Lundt> Help please.
[11:18] <Lartza_> Yeah well the problem is it's configured already, but local only :/ but I'll check
[11:19] <q_> dieter, wait, looks like it works now
[11:19] <resemblinghuman> Lundt: you got dual boot on there, or just Ubuntu?
[11:19] <henry-nicolas1> Hello everbody, I'm running 9.04 with ext4, sometimes I got crash when running apps which performs a lot of IO (like rsync).
[11:19] <henry-nicolas1> The new 2.6.30 will include patches to fix that, are we going to have a backport of those patches into our jaunty kernel ?