[00:01]  * Arby leaves multimedia compiling and goes to sleep
[00:01] <Arby> see you tomorrow folks
[00:02] <a|wen> night apachelogger
[00:02] <a|wen> sry shoud've been Arby instead
[00:47] <JontheEchidna> ...and kdewebdev-kde4 is done
[00:50] <JontheEchidna> Only kdesdk, kdebindings, and kdebase-workspace left to go
[00:55] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: great!
[00:55] <JontheEchidna> oh, and l10n if we're doing it
[00:56] <JontheEchidna> oh, and multimedia and pim are in progress
[00:56] <JontheEchidna> so I guess it's a bit more than I though but we're still almost done. ;)
[00:58] <JontheEchidna> so what are the intrepid packages waiting for?
[01:00]  * JontheEchidna debuilds kdesdk
[01:07] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: I think the mainlines ones are all done for intrepid, still extragear to do
[01:15] <vorian> Riddell: linky?  :)
[01:16] <JontheEchidna> the batcave must be out of date then
[01:19] <Riddell>  /msg'ed
[01:19] <JontheEchidna> 1.666666 hour eta on kdesdk
[01:20] <vorian> thanks :)
[02:48] <jjesse> this is interesting, in vmware workstation when i try to click on anything on the task bar the configure panel section opens up
[02:49] <ScottK> jjesse: I was going to reply to your kubuntu-devel mail, but since you're here ...
[02:49] <jjesse> yes ScottK
[02:50] <ScottK> jjesse: We now have a KDE4 version of Guidance Power Manager in Intrepid.
[02:50] <jjesse> oh yay so i should try to use intrepid instead?
[02:50] <ScottK> So as long as the kernel supports suspend/resume for your hardware, it ought to work as well as KDE3 would have.
[02:50] <jjesse> good
[02:50] <ScottK> No promises.
[02:50] <jjesse> i wouldn't hold it to you
[02:51] <jjesse> my old hard drive was just too small to dual boot + run vms
[02:51] <ScottK> Personally, I'm not running intrepid yet, but I'm also happy in KDE3.
[02:52] <jjesse> i've b een running vista since hardy's release
[02:52] <jjesse> but don't tell anyone ;)
[02:57] <jjesse> wow that quieted the crowd :)
[02:57] <jjesse> anyways thanks for the info scott
[02:57] <jjesse> ScottK
[02:57] <jjesse> off to bed before the baby wakes up
[04:35] <nixternal> evenin' :)
[04:38] <vorian> yo!
[04:38] <nixternal> yo yo
[04:39] <vorian> how's things?
[04:40] <nixternal> busy as usual
[04:40] <crimsun> finished w/ school?
[04:40] <nixternal> went on a nice ride through Chicago last night, took a nice hot ride today, and I am working on planning out a 50+ mile ride for tomorrow
[04:40] <nixternal> ya, I dropped out of school yet again...went back to work, and starting riding my bikes hardcore again
[04:41] <crimsun> cool
[05:01] <vorian> whoot
[05:02] <vorian> that's enough for one night
[05:04] <vorian> apachelogger: you have a bunch of mail heading your way
[08:29] <Arby> apachelogger: does the batcave have tarballs for the extragear packages somewhere?
[09:22] <apachelogger> jeez
[09:24] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna, vorian, Arby, smarter: I love you guys!
[09:27] <Arby>  that's what we're here for :)
[09:28] <Arby> apachelogger: where can we get tarballs for extragear?
[09:28] <apachelogger> Arby: extragear in the batdirectory
[09:29] <apachelogger> 100% fresh :D
[09:29] <Arby> I see them, I didn't think that was there before :)
[09:29] <apachelogger> that is why they are 100% fresh
[09:29] <apachelogger> and not 99 or 80
[09:30] <Arby> are these just backports or do they need packaging for intrepid as well?
[09:30] <apachelogger> Arby: vorian already did them
[09:30] <Arby> ok cool
[09:30] <apachelogger> besides, I still think we should do them post-release and focus on QA for now :P
[09:31]  * apachelogger still has that user in mind claiming debian has better quality control
[09:32] <Arby> ok so what do we need to do for testing?
[09:32] <Arby> I suppose I should try to whip up an intrepid vm just for fun
[09:33] <apachelogger> Arby: hardy testing is more important
[09:33] <apachelogger> for intrepid we can always say it's WIP ;-)
[09:33] <Arby> true true
[09:34]  * apachelogger wants a server for a prepreprepre-kde-release repo
[09:34] <Arby> have we got a list of stuff somewhere, other than the bug lists I mean
[09:35] <apachelogger> Arby: stuff?
[09:35] <Tm_T> don't stuff me!
[09:35] <Arby> to be tested
[09:35] <apachelogger> Arby: maybe Nightrose can come up with something
[09:35] <apachelogger> she is always complaining ;-)
[09:36] <Nightrose> haha
[09:36] <apachelogger> Arby: I suppose starting KDE 3 apps is broken for example
[09:36] <Nightrose> morning
[09:36] <Nightrose> right
[09:37] <Nightrose> also "recently opened files" in kate never worked so far in kde 4
[09:37] <apachelogger> well
[09:37] <apachelogger> that is upstreamish
[09:37] <apachelogger> doesn't work in intrepid either
[09:37] <Nightrose> is the dolphin crash fixed?
[09:37] <Nightrose> the one when you hover over video files
[09:37] <Nightrose> apachelogger: i know
[09:37] <Nightrose> ;-)
[09:38] <Nightrose> just trying to remember what i have been complaining about
[09:38]  * Arby opens kate
[09:38] <apachelogger> Arby: the video hover should be fixed with a newly compiled stack actually
[09:38]  * apachelogger thinks that was some abi breakage or something
[09:38] <Nightrose> is klipper starting up?
[09:39] <Nightrose> and can i start it without having to type "klipper" in krunner again now?
[09:39] <Nightrose> (auto starting that is)
[09:40] <Nightrose> hmm I think those are the things that bug me most right now ;-)
[09:40] <Arby> in dolphin, what is supposed to  happen if I hover on a video file. some sort of preview?
[09:40] <Nightrose> it should not crash if you have the info bar added ;-)
[09:41] <dotancohen> Hi all, first time here. I'm having a real hard time building Digikam SVN on Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 4.1rc1
[09:41] <dotancohen> I can install all the dependencies,
[09:42] <Arby> ah, I don't. I'll add it back
[09:42] <dotancohen> but Digikam itself doesn't get through cmake
[09:42] <dotancohen> This is the end of cmake:
[09:42] <dotancohen> CMake Error: The following variables are used in this project, but they are set to NOTFOUND.
[09:42] <dotancohen> Please set them or make sure they are set and tested correctly in the CMake files:
[09:42] <dotancohen> QT_QTOPENGL_LIBRARY (ADVANCED)
[09:42] <dotancohen>     linked by target "kipiplugin_slideshow" in directory /home/hardy/digikam-notes/graphics/kipi-plugins/slideshow
[09:42] <dotancohen>     linked by target "kipiplugin_imageviewer" in directory /home/hardy/digikam-notes/graphics/kipi-plugins/imageviewer
[09:42] <dotancohen> ...
[09:42] <apachelogger> dotancohen: #kde
[09:42] <apachelogger> or #kubuntu
[09:42] <apachelogger> or #kubuntu-kde4
[09:42] <dotancohen> I did try #kubuntu, they sent me here :)
[09:42] <apachelogger> cool
[09:43] <dotancohen> I'll try asking on #kubuntu-kde4 though I do think that the -devel channel is the right place
[09:43] <Arby> Nightrose: that would be a fail then
[09:43] <apachelogger> no it is not
[09:43] <apachelogger> dotancohen: who sent you hear
[09:43] <Arby> dolphin locks up hovering on a video file
[09:43]  * apachelogger needs to beat someone up :P
[09:44] <apachelogger> Arby: with a completely new stack?
[09:44] <Arby> no, this is 4.0.98
[09:44] <apachelogger> well, compile a stack and try again :P
[09:44]  * apachelogger can upload akonadi, soprano, automoc, phonon and kdelibs
[09:44] <Arby> what do you mean by stack exactly, recompile kde?
[09:45] <apachelogger> Arby: aye
[09:45] <apachelogger> actually
[09:45] <Arby> yikes
[09:45] <apachelogger> everything we updated
[09:46] <apachelogger> which are basically the above + runtime + workspace + base
[09:46] <apachelogger> Nightrose:   * Removed kubuntu_13_hide_klipper.diff:
[09:46] <apachelogger>     - Don't use NoDisplay since that breaks autostart
[09:46] <apachelogger>   * Fixed klipper.install not to install the desktop file
[09:46] <apachelogger> Nightrose: so, yes to the first
[09:46] <apachelogger> no to the second question
[09:47] <Arby> apachelogger: does neon do kde nightly builds?
[09:47] <Arby> just trying to think of alternatives
[09:47] <Arby> I don't really want to break this machine
[09:47] <apachelogger> Arby: well, that is my point :P
[09:47] <apachelogger> if it breaks your machine
[09:48] <apachelogger> we have a serious problem
[09:48]  * Arby spots a vm approaching
[09:48] <apachelogger> oh, runtime finished
[09:48] <Nightrose> apachelogger: cool
[09:48] <apachelogger> hoooray
[09:48] <Arby> which I will then be unable to report because my machine exploded :P
[09:49] <Arby> google says yes
[09:50] <apachelogger> Arby: you should know how to use irssi :P
[09:50] <apachelogger> hum
[09:50] <Arby> bye typing alt-f2 conversation :)
[09:50] <Arby> s/c/k/
[09:50] <apachelogger> my mediaserver server exploded
[09:52] <apachelogger> that looks pretty awful http://aplg.kollide.net/images/snapshot052.png :S
[09:52]  * Arby rummages for a hardy cd
[09:52] <apachelogger> oh
[09:52] <apachelogger> but runtime finished
[09:52] <apachelogger> hooray
[10:02] <apachelogger> Riddell: did you not add kubuntu_09_kickoff_favourites.diff to workspace's series file by intention?
[10:14] <smarter> hey there
[10:22] <apachelogger> hm
[10:22] <apachelogger> hoy smarter
[10:22] <apachelogger> CMake Error at /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindPhonon.cmake:49 (message):
[10:22] <apachelogger>   Phonon library or includes NOT found!
[10:22]  * apachelogger hands vorian the FTBFS flag :P
[10:30] <smarter> vorian: I see that you have packaged guidance-power-manager 4.1.0, so don't forget to commit your changes to the bzr branch ;)
[10:35] <apachelogger> I think my brain will explode soon
[10:35] <apachelogger> that much reviewing is just not healthy
[10:36] <smarter> :P
[10:38] <apachelogger> vorian: fixed pimlibs
[10:52] <Wubbbi> hello :)
[10:53] <toma> apachelogger: you have akonadi ready?
[10:53] <toma> apachelogger: this one might be interesting: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167524
[10:54] <toma> apachelogger: in what package is /trunk/KDE/kdepim/akonadi ?
[10:54] <toma> because that is what he is missing
[10:55] <apachelogger> toma: packaged 1.0.0
[10:55] <apachelogger> toma: and I think we just didn't backport the changes I made for rc1 in intrepid
[10:56] <apachelogger> so that should hopefully be fixed with the upcoming packages :)
[10:56] <toma> that is the /trunk/kdesupport/akonadi part
[10:56] <apachelogger> IIRC akonadi was not built properly at all
[10:57] <toma> i still would like to know the name of the package that holdsthe stuff from /trunk/KDE/kdepim/akonadi
[10:58] <apachelogger> toma: akonadi-server, libakoandiprivate1, libakonadi-dev
[10:58] <apachelogger> though
[10:58] <apachelogger> no
[10:58]  * apachelogger diggs
[10:58] <toma> thats all kdesupport stuff
[10:59] <toma> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ would help if it was up
[10:59] <apachelogger> toma: akonadi-kde
[10:59] <apachelogger> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+package/akonadi-kde
[10:59] <toma> i expect that to be kdepimlibs/akonadi
[11:00] <apachelogger> nope
[11:00] <apachelogger> built from kdepim
[11:00] <apachelogger> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepimlibs/4:4.0.98-0ubuntu1
[11:00] <apachelogger> kdepimlibs' binaries
[11:01] <toma> righty
[11:01] <toma> thanks
[11:01] <toma> i'll close the report
[11:08] <Nightrose> Arby: can you check if kde 3 apps start from kickoff or krunner if you have their kde 4 version installed
[11:08] <Nightrose> doesn't work since rc 1 in hardy
[11:09] <Nightrose> would be good to fix that with final
[11:09] <Nightrose> (it starts their kde 4 version instead)
[11:28] <Arby> Nightrose: OK, I'm just trying to get a vm set up for testing.
[11:29] <Arby> then I need to go out for a while, so I'll do some testing later this afternoon
[11:30] <Nightrose> Arby: great :)
[11:30] <Nightrose> thanks
[11:30] <Arby> Nightrose: for testing kde3 apps, do you mean on a kde
[11:30] <Arby> sorry
[11:30] <Arby> kde3 desktop or kde4, or both
[11:30] <Nightrose> kde 4 desktop
[11:30] <Arby> k
[11:44] <Riddell> apachelogger: no, kubuntu_09_kickoff_favourites.diff should be added
[11:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: I'll add it to the series then
[12:10] <JontheEchidna> I'll take konq-plugins for hardy
[12:11] <JontheEchidna> damn, vorian totally ripped up extragear for intrepid
[12:11]  * JontheEchidna is impressed
[12:44]  * JontheEchidna is almost done with kdesdk
[12:45] <apachelogger> phew
[12:45] <apachelogger> workspace done
[12:46] <JontheEchidna> guidance-power-manager is upstream now?
[12:46] <Riddell> we like to contribute back
[12:47] <JontheEchidna> That's awesome
[12:47] <JontheEchidna> woo! kdesdk done
[12:49] <vorian> apachelogger: which ftbfs flag is that?
[12:49] <vorian> :)
[12:51] <apachelogger> vorian: the one saying "apachelogger is cooler than I"
[12:51] <vorian> haha
[12:51] <vorian> which package, pim?
[12:51] <apachelogger> pimlibs
[12:51] <apachelogger> oh righto
[12:51] <apachelogger> I should testbuild kdepim
[12:51] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: kdesdk coming your way
[12:51] <apachelogger> otherwise people will eat us again
[12:51] <JontheEchidna> \o/
[12:51] <vorian> haaaa
[12:52] <apachelogger> oh nicy
[12:52] <apachelogger> we have a dep issue
[12:52]  * apachelogger looks
[12:52] <JontheEchidna> do you think that these packages I've built against the 4.0.98 libs are safe for consumption?
[12:52] <vorian> apachelogger: i think kpovmodeler needs to go multiple binaries
[12:52] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: might as well not
[12:53] <JontheEchidna> eh yeah, it's just a bug fix release anyway
[12:53]  * JontheEchidna will be patient
[12:53] <apachelogger> I think I am going to start uploading to the build servers in ~12 hours
[12:53] <JontheEchidna> coolness
[12:53] <apachelogger> so we have enough time if something breaks
[12:53] <apachelogger> vorian: what makes you think that?
[12:53] <vorian> all the files that don't get installed :P
[12:54] <apachelogger> sounds reasonable
[12:54] <vorian> i threw in a kpovmodeler.install file with usr/*
[12:54] <vorian> but I think it can be done better
[12:55] <apachelogger> well IMO splitting only makes sense for multiple binaries which are mostly independent and for libs
[12:55] <JontheEchidna> vorian: do you know where I can get the extragear tarballs?
[12:55] <apachelogger> like I wouldn't have split the amarok 1.4 package into amarok and amarok-common
[12:55] <vorian> hmmm
[12:56] <vorian> It appears there can be data doc and libs binaries
[12:56] <apachelogger> yep
[12:56] <apachelogger> but they don't always make sense ;-)
[12:56] <vorian> haha
[12:56] <apachelogger> like for amarok it would be a much better idea to make it amarok and amarok-docs
[12:57] <apachelogger> since they are quite big and could save some space on the CD for example
[12:57] <vorian> nod
[12:58] <apachelogger> hm, something is defenitely wrong here http://paste.ubuntu.com/30890/
[12:58] <apachelogger> Nightrose: either amarok is having threading problems or kde 4.1.0 does
[12:58]  * Nightrose looks
[12:58] <vorian> uh
[12:59] <Nightrose> apachelogger: how old is your build?
[12:59] <apachelogger> Nightrose: yesterdayish I think
[12:59] <apachelogger> or even todayish
[13:00] <Nightrose> ok
[13:00] <apachelogger> yesterday evening
[13:00] <Nightrose> k
[13:00] <Nightrose> apachelogger: forwarde
[13:00] <Nightrose> d
[13:00] <apachelogger> thx
[13:01]  * apachelogger tears vorian's kdebase-runtime apart :P
[13:01] <vorian> wha!
[13:02] <apachelogger> Depends: kdebase-runtime-data-common (>= ${source:Version}) | kdebase-data (<< 4:4.0.0-1)
[13:02] <apachelogger> Replaces: kdebase-data (<< 4:4.0.0-1), kdebase-bin (<= 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2), drkonqi
[13:02] <apachelogger> sometimes I am really wondering how these kde4 packages work at all :P
[13:04] <vorian> Conflicts: xserver
[13:04]  * vorian runs
[13:05] <apachelogger> I wouldn't be surprised to find that somewhere :P
[13:05] <vorian> haha
[13:06] <vorian> ah cool
[13:09]  * apachelogger installs example-content
[13:10] <vorian> apachelogger: i emailed you all those extragear packages because I'm not sure how much i'll be around monday and tuesday
[13:10] <apachelogger> I think we will get to extragear post-tuesday anyway
[13:10] <apachelogger> lots of testing to be done :(
[13:11] <apachelogger> Nightrose: video crash fixed
[13:11] <apachelogger> klipper autostart fixed
[13:11] <apachelogger> icons not appearing for the kickoff categories fixed
[13:11] <Nightrose> \o/
[13:11] <Nightrose> excellent
[13:12] <apachelogger> Nightrose: kde3 app start fixed
[13:12] <Nightrose> wohooo
[13:13]  * Nightrose hands cookies to everyone who helped
[13:13] <Nightrose> ;-)
[13:13] <JontheEchidna> :)
[13:13] <apachelogger> oh, I get all the cookies I guess :P
[13:13] <Nightrose> :P
[13:14]  * apachelogger hands the packaging crew some bottles of beer and scuttles off for kdepim testbuilds
[13:14] <JontheEchidna> you can just leave the extras for everybody who helped backport
[13:14] <JontheEchidna> Do you think it might be a good idea to make a testing ppa?
[13:14] <JontheEchidna> We can copy the binaries over if they're good
[13:14] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: yes in about 10 hours
[13:14] <apachelogger> though
[13:14] <JontheEchidna> or would people just switch to that new ppa anyway
[13:15] <apachelogger> I think soyuz should provide some kind of closed down ppa
[13:15] <JontheEchidna> and then complain when crap breaks
[13:15] <Nightrose> JontheEchidna: likely
[13:15] <Nightrose> ;-)
[13:18] <apachelogger> vorian: what is the status of hardy kdepim?
[13:18] <vorian> suck
[13:18] <apachelogger> cool
[13:18] <vorian> stuck*
[13:18] <vorian> hehe
[13:18] <apachelogger> vorian: but why?
[13:18] <vorian> ftbfs
[13:18] <vorian> fails at 14 or 15%
[13:18] <vorian> I tried a few tricks, and had to go to work
[13:19]  * apachelogger demands a paste
[13:19] <vorian> you'll need to wait a moment then :)
[13:19] <smarter> We could use ~kubuntu-members-kde4 to upload kde4.1.0 to intrepid, nobody is supposed to use that repo for intrepid anyway :P
[13:20] <apachelogger> smarter: I rather don't care whether 4.1.0 hits intrepid in time :P
[13:21]  * apachelogger needs to write some scripts for information gathering
[13:21] <apachelogger> we just need more debdiffs :D
[13:23] <vorian> har har
[13:34] <apachelogger> Arby: kdeaccessibility-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) hardy; urgency=low ;-)
[13:35] <apachelogger> fixed
[13:35]  * JontheEchidna goes to breakfast
[13:46] <apachelogger> Oo
[13:46] <apachelogger> Arby: something is defenitely wrong with kdegames - a debian directory should never be 86mib
[13:50]  * JontheEchidna guesses that debian dir just needs a debuild clean
[13:53] <apachelogger> righto
[13:54] <apachelogger> Arby: please clean your debian dir next time :)
[13:54] <apachelogger> 86mib is really a bit strange
[13:54]  * apachelogger wouldn't have looked into it for 85 ;-)
[13:58] <vorian> apachelogger: it was the patch in pim
[13:59] <apachelogger> god, I hate patches
[14:04] <apachelogger> vorian: kdebase-kde4 (4:4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) intrepid; urgency=low
[14:04] <apachelogger> I think we need a script for the changelog maniuplation :)
[14:04] <vorian> pfft
[14:04] <vorian> beast2
[14:04] <vorian> that's me!
[14:05]  * apachelogger restarts pbuilder
[14:06] <Hobbsee> apachelogger: you don't have one?
[14:06] <apachelogger> not yet
[14:06] <vorian> kubuntu-backport-tools
[14:09] <apachelogger> including a tarball renamer
[14:09]  * apachelogger always forgets to suffix the tarballs
[14:11] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: libphonon-dev (>= 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) ... usually you would just go with 4:4.2.0
[14:11]  * JontheEchidna just edited what was there
[14:12] <JontheEchidna> namely the 4.x.x stuff
[14:12] <smarter> vorian: you saw my highlight about guidance?
[14:12] <vorian> smarter: yeah :)
[14:12] <vorian> I'll push the change
[14:12] <smarter> ok, thanks ;)
[14:12] <vorian> I think all I did was add a manpage
[14:12] <devfil> Riddell: please take a look at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/245682 so kdelibs can finally be fixed
[14:13] <smarter> vorian: don't forget to do "bzr add *" so that it add the new file then
[14:13] <vorian> roger
[14:13] <vorian> ah, no
[14:13] <vorian> patch had to be dropped
[14:14] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: that ~hardy1~ppa1 was probably not there :P
[14:14] <smarter> vorian: which patch?
[14:16] <vorian> klocalize-crash
[14:16] <smarter> why?
[14:17] <vorian> it would not apply
[14:17] <apachelogger> vorian: then you should update it rather than removing :P
[14:17] <smarter> yep
[14:18]  * apachelogger can't read anymore
[14:18] <apachelogger> all packages got the 10% backport review
[14:18] <apachelogger> and even that was too much
[14:18] <smarter> vorian: need help? (:
[14:19] <vorian> smarter: you can do all of it, i don't mind
[14:20] <smarter> ok, send me your diff.gz :)
[14:21] <vorian> smarter: check your inbox :)
[14:21] <smarter> thanks
[14:24] <smarter> vorian: I don't see any manpage?
[14:24] <vorian> 13:13:36 < vorian> ah, no
[14:24] <vorian> 13:13:43 < vorian> patch had to be dropped
[14:25] <vorian> i was wrong, as always it seems
[14:25] <smarter> ah, only patch, okay then :)
[14:40] <smarter> apachelogger: guidance-power-manager update debian/ available on lp:~kubuntu-members/guidance/powermanager-ubuntu
[14:53]  * Arby reads the highlights
[14:54] <Arby> apachelogger: I thought something was up with games.
[14:54] <Arby> I'm never quite sure what is safe to remov thought
[14:54] <apachelogger> Arby: debuild clean
[14:54] <apachelogger> or debuild -S -sa
[14:54] <apachelogger> the latter invokes the former
[14:54] <Arby> I thought I did that
[14:54] <Arby> oh well
[14:55] <Arby> do you need me to re-send or did you fix it
[14:56] <apachelogger> fixed it
[14:56]  * apachelogger needs to run debuild -S -sa anyway :)
[14:56] <Arby> thanks
[14:59] <Arby> apachelogger: are the kde4 ppa and neon repository compatible or are they intended to be mutually exclusive?
[14:59] <Arby> i.e. can I use both without exploding the world
[14:59] <apachelogger> you should ;-)
[15:00] <Arby> ok. I will :)
[15:02] <Nightrose> Arby: i use both
[15:02] <Nightrose> no problems so far
[15:03] <Arby> excellent
[15:03] <txwikinger> eploding the world... interesting concept
[15:03] <txwikinger> +x
[15:04] <apachelogger> neon is way cooler than kde4 ppa anyway :P
[15:04] <Arby> for a certain value of world :)
[15:04] <apachelogger> libplasma-dev (>= 4:4.2.0)
[15:04] <apachelogger> interesting dep
[15:05] <txwikinger> well... back from the future?
[15:05] <apachelogger> back to the future(tm)
[15:06] <apachelogger> Nightrose: how did I explain that in promo language?
[15:07] <apachelogger> ...it's not actually wrong, just future-proof ...
[15:07] <apachelogger> something similar at least
[15:07] <Nightrose> :P
[15:08] <txwikinger> what do you mean, it is not wrong?
[15:08] <txwikinger> It will fail if you don't have anything 4.2.0 or higher
[15:08] <txwikinger> Do we already have 4.2.0?
[15:10] <apachelogger> that is the wrong attittude
[15:10] <apachelogger> txwikinger: tell me again in december :P
[15:10] <txwikinger> Well.. I will.. with a different accent though
[15:11] <apachelogger> oioi
[15:21] <txwikinger> Ah.. another amarok bug :D
[16:40] <apachelogger> who was working on the kdebindings backport?
[16:41] <vorian> apachelogger: you?
[16:41] <apachelogger> not on the backport
[16:41] <apachelogger> someone started work but apparently gave up
[16:41] <vorian> hmmm
[16:41] <Arby> me
[16:41] <apachelogger> Arby: what is the problem?
[16:41] <Arby> something to do with smoke and phonon
[16:42] <vorian> apachelogger: here is the pim failure http://paste.ubuntu.com/30945/
[16:42] <Arby> hang on let's see if I can find the error
[16:42] <apachelogger> MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive
[16:42] <apachelogger> Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.
[16:42] <apachelogger> god
[16:42] <apachelogger> sometimes
[16:42] <vorian> Arby: i would advise against smoking phonon
[16:42] <apachelogger> I hate soyuz
[16:42] <vorian> it'll give you cancer
[16:42] <Arby> :P
[16:42] <apachelogger> vorian: it will????
[16:42] <apachelogger> how can you give phonon cancer?
[16:43] <apachelogger> plasma seems reasonable, but phonon?
[16:43] <vorian> no, If you smoke phonon, *you* get cancer
[16:43] <Arby> apachelogger: the error was http://paste.ubuntu.com/30661/
[16:43] <vorian> but, if you smoke plasma, phonon turns to platinum?
[16:43] <apachelogger> vorian: dpkg -S kcfg2dbus.xsl
[16:44] <vorian> kdepimlibs-data: /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/akonadi-kde/kcfg2dbus.xsl
[16:44] <apachelogger> vorian: did you upgrade kdepimlibs yet?
[16:44] <vorian> yes
[16:44] <vorian> ah, but i didn't install it
[16:44] <apachelogger> Arby: either a build-dep is missing or the source tree isn't clean
[16:44] <apachelogger> vorian: ;-)
[16:45] <vorian> silly hardy
[16:45]  * apachelogger has 3gib of packages in his repo due to autopublishing upon successful build :P
[16:45] <jtechidna> \o/
[16:46] <jtechidna> I thought you could only have 1 GiB?
[16:46] <vorian> sudo dpkg -i *.deb ftw
[16:46] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: not in the ppa
[16:46] <apachelogger> my my repo
[16:49] <JontheEchidna> what the heck? Where'd CSS go for launchpad?
[16:49] <Arby> apachelogger: the debian/control is http://paste.ubuntu.com/30652/
[16:49] <Arby> do you see anything obviously missing?
[16:50] <apachelogger> libsoprano-dev missing
[16:50] <Arby> k
[16:51] <apachelogger> looks good otherwise
[16:51] <apachelogger> Arby: maybe you should get yourself a stack ;-)
[16:51] <Arby> a stack?
[16:52] <apachelogger> a 4.1.0 package stack that is
[16:53] <Arby> and I would do that how?
[16:53] <Arby> apart from the ones I've done locally
[16:54] <apachelogger> asking me to upload
[16:54] <apachelogger> but
[16:54] <apachelogger> considering my connection suxx0rs
[16:54] <apachelogger> I think I'll better do the backport myself ;-)
[16:54] <Arby> ok
[16:55] <apachelogger> Arby: I hope you don't mind
[16:55] <apachelogger> otherwise I can of course start uploading right away
[16:55] <vorian> grrr
[16:55] <Arby> hang on you've lost me
[16:55] <Arby> backports of what are we on now
[16:56] <apachelogger> Arby: bindings
[16:56] <Arby> I've started bindings building again
[16:56] <Arby> oh ok
[16:56] <apachelogger> Arby: well maybe it builds
[16:56]  * apachelogger meanwhile prepares to jump in, in case it doesn't
[16:56] <Arby> stranger things have happened :)
[16:56] <Arby> although not recently
[16:57] <apachelogger> vorian: apparently we do backports
[16:57] <apachelogger> so go ahead and modify the l10n script if you want
[16:58] <apachelogger> I guess you just need to get it to use hardy as distro and suffix the version number
[16:58] <vorian> apachelogger: hmm?
[16:58] <JontheEchidna> btw, @KDE 4.1 packaging team:
[16:58] <JontheEchidna> http://tinyurl.com/57acua
[16:58] <apachelogger> vorian: l10n backports
[16:58] <apachelogger> of course you could also backport them manually ;-)
[16:59]  * JontheEchidna hears the screams of 1,000 dead packagers^
[16:59] <apachelogger> hm
[16:59] <vorian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30950/
[16:59] <vorian> Same flippin problem
[16:59] <vorian> pim can die
[17:00] <vorian> :P
[17:01] <apachelogger> vorian: you borked it
[17:01] <apachelogger> I knew it
[17:01] <apachelogger> omg
[17:01] <apachelogger> vorian: send over the debian
[17:01] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: now I am confused
[17:02] <Arby> apachelogger: bindings failed again, feel free to take over
[17:02] <Arby> too hard for me :(
[17:02]  * apachelogger burns bindings
[17:02] <Arby> good plan
[17:02] <apachelogger> oh
[17:02] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: why?
[17:02] <apachelogger> star wars in the amarok
[17:02]  * Arby passes the petrol
[17:03]  * JontheEchidna passes the 9-volt battery and steel wool
[17:03]  * toma grabs the marshmellows
[17:03] <toma> however that is spelled correctly
[17:03] <Arby> marshmallows
[17:04] <Arby> or something like thta
[17:04] <smarter> hey guys
[17:04] <smarter> still messing with backports? (:
[17:07] <smarter> what/where is "PPA aplg"?
[17:07] <Wubbbi> Hello to everyone :D
[17:07]  * apachelogger kicks smarter in the balls
[17:07] <apachelogger> tp secret
[17:07] <Wubbbi> *autsch* xD
[17:07] <apachelogger> tach Wubbbi
[17:08] <smarter> apachelogger: it's so secret it does not even exist :P
[17:08] <Wubbbi> hi ... sagmal weißt du ob es möglich ist unter mandriva, debian pakete zu bauen? :/
[17:09] <Wubbbi> Ich hab ... *schluck* gewechselt  ^^
[17:10] <smarter> apachelogger: maybe we should setup a secret irc channel for this kind of stuff? ;-)
[17:11]  * apachelogger thinks of a secret name
[17:11] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: sollte in nem chroot möglich sein
[17:11] <smarter> #kubuntu.packaging-ninjas :p
[17:11] <apachelogger> nah
[17:11] <vorian> apachelogger: you've got mail etc...
[17:11] <Wubbbi> ok danke :)
[17:34] <Arby> hmm, how do I start krunner manually if it dies
[17:35] <JontheEchidna> krunner
[17:35] <Arby> alt-f2 no longer does anything. bit wierd
[17:35] <JontheEchidna> run krunner from konsole
[17:36] <JontheEchidna> that should start it back up
[17:36] <Arby> uh uh
[17:37] <Arby> brb
[18:10] <jussi01> Oh lovely, qt looks horrible :/
[18:10] <jussi01> http://imagebin.ca/view/8EvyxNN1.html
[18:12] <Jucato> what happened? O.o
[18:13] <jussi01> Jucato: no idea, I should check what im looged into I suppose... (have neon and members repo)
[18:13] <Jucato> heh :)
[18:14] <jussi01> is there a way to do that from inside the session?
[18:16] <apachelogger> jussi01: kde4-config --localprefix
[18:16] <apachelogger> if it is .kde4 its the members if it is .kde-neon it is neon
[18:17] <jussi01> apachelogger: Its neon
[18:19]  * jussi01 ggoes to check if its the same in members
[18:20] <jussi01> hehe, neon doesnt log out right now...
[18:48] <devfil> Riddell: there?
[18:51] <Riddell> hi devfil
[18:51] <devfil> Riddell: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/245682
[18:53] <devfil> Riddell: with this and the rebuild of kdelibs the bug of libavahi-qt3 instead of libavahi-qt3-1 is fixex
[18:53] <devfil> fixed
[18:54] <Riddell> devfil: uploading avahi
[18:55] <devfil> Riddell: for kdelibs do you need a debdiff with the rebuild (when avahi has builded) or you can do the giveback?
[18:56] <Riddell> devfil: a debdiff means you get the karma :)
[18:56] <devfil> Riddell: ?
[18:57] <devfil> I'm not understanding
[19:00] <Riddell> devfil: if you give me a debdiff you get the launchpad karma
[19:02] <devfil> Riddell: ? if I remember right the karma depends on reply at bugs, translation etc... no other
[19:04] <jpds> devfil: You create a bug on it.
[19:05] <Riddell> uploads too I think
[19:05] <devfil> pffff I don't want to create bugs
[19:07] <devfil> Riddell: I don't think
[19:08] <jpds> devfil: So therefore you aren't?!
[19:08] <devfil> Riddell: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/0.6.23-2ubuntu1 the missing dep is in intrepid
[19:09] <devfil> universe
[19:13] <Riddell> grrr
[19:13] <Riddell> devfil: fancy writing the main inclusion report?
[19:14] <devfil> naaaa
[19:14] <devfil> if possible drop the dependency
[19:18] <devfil> Riddell: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464712
[19:19] <Riddell> ah, libcap1 is already in main, that means no main inclusion report needed
[19:19] <devfil> good
[19:27]  * Riddell uploads it to build with libcap1
[19:45] <Nightrose> apachelogger: looks like eean gives a **** about neon not building...
[19:46] <Nightrose> he wants you to fix it
[19:55] <Wubbbi> hi :) I'm Back :D
[20:04] <devfil> Riddell: remember to rebuild kdelibs please
[20:04] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: sooo ich hab jetzt meine debian paketbau umgebung soweit eingerichted. Kann ich eigentlich auch pakete für z.B. Intrepid bauen ( Bugfixes und so ein zeug ) und die dann Uploaden lassen? Also ein paketbuilder sozusagen
[20:04] <Wubbbi> sorry for my german in here but this was an important question ^^
[20:08] <JontheEchidna> German people like (K)Ubuntu a lot, it seems. ;P
[20:08] <Wubbbi> ^^
[20:08] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: you are from?
[20:08] <JontheEchidna> USA
[20:13] <Wubbbi> UHHH :D I Like the USA :D
[20:14] <Wubbbi> apachelogger seems to be away :(
[20:16] <devfil> Riddell: in kdelibs should be libavahi-*-dev (>= 0.6.23-2ubuntu2)
[20:16] <devfil> in buld-dep
[20:19] <Wubbbi> Well I have learned so much about "How to make a .deb package" and I wanted to ask, if it was possible, that I build some .deb packages for (K)Ubuntu intrepid. Is that ok? So I need to be in a team. Or is this not possible? :(
[20:20] <JontheEchidna> yeah, that's ok. You don't need to be in a team or anything
[20:21] <Wubbbi> and how to do that? So wheren can I show that packages need to be build?
[20:21] <Wubbbi> show = see ( english is a bit diffrent than german ^^ )
[20:22] <JontheEchidna> find something that needs packaging and package it ;)
[20:22] <Wubbbi> ohhh that easy? ok ^^
[20:23] <JontheEchidna> plasmoids are usually easy: http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=70
[20:23] <JontheEchidna> (just make sure they haven't been packaged first)
[20:24] <Wubbbi> and after I have build a .deb? what I have to do then?
[20:25] <JontheEchidna> once you've packaged it you'll need to upload the source package to revu so an MOTU can review it
[20:25] <JontheEchidna> I'll get a link in a second
[20:25] <JontheEchidna> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU?highlight=%28Revu%29
[20:26] <Wubbbi> so let me build the plasmamoid "Tea Cooker" ^^
[20:26] <JontheEchidna> ok, that one hasn't been done yet
[20:27] <Wubbbi> ok
[20:27] <Wubbbi> D
[20:27] <Wubbbi> :D
[20:27] <JontheEchidna> btw, we've been naming plasmoids plasmoid-whatever
[20:27] <JontheEchidna> plasmoid-teacooker
[20:28] <Wubbbi> ok ... thats :D
[20:28] <JontheEchidna> You can "apt-get source plasmoid-weather" to see a plasmoid I packaged
[20:30] <Wubbbi> ok
[20:42] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: how to get the e-mail adress of the creater? On kde-look i cant find :/
[20:42] <JontheEchidna> usually it's in the source code
[20:42] <JontheEchidna> Wubbbi: ^
[20:43] <Wubbbi> cant find :/
[20:43] <Wubbbi> what I have to do now?
[20:43]  * JontheEchidna takes a look at the source code
[20:44] <Wubbbi> ^^
[20:46] <JontheEchidna> Wubbbi: It's in plasma-teacooker.cpp
[20:46] <JontheEchidna> Copyright (C) 2008 by Swizec<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:46] <Wubbbi> can I use the same "dh_sameversiondeps" and "kde.mk" that you have?
[20:47] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: ahhh thank you :D
[20:47] <JontheEchidna> yeah, just copy the rules file and the cdbs directory over from what I have
[20:47] <Wubbbi> ok
[20:48] <Wubbbi> ok I'm finished now ... lets build :D
[20:50] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: do I need a bug report? oO
[20:50] <JontheEchidna> it would be preferred
[20:50] <JontheEchidna> (yes :P)
[20:52] <Wubbbi> and how should it call?
[20:52] <JontheEchidna> ?
[20:52] <JontheEchidna> [needs-packaging] plasmoid-teacooker
[20:53] <JontheEchidna> then just give a link to the kde-look page and give a small description
[20:53] <JontheEchidna> you can look at my bug report
[20:54] <Wubbbi> ok
[20:57] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: is that ok? bug 252388
[20:57] <JontheEchidna> ya, that's good
[20:59] <Wubbbi> :)
[21:01] <Wubbbi> thats easyer than I thought ^^
[21:02] <JontheEchidna> filing the bug report?
[21:03] <Wubbbi> wait. I need the libplasma-dev package. Im here on gnome. So that can take a while ^^
[21:04] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: nooo ... build a fresh package :)
[21:04] <JontheEchidna> oh
[21:04] <Wubbbi> befor I have just builded done packages ... that was brong ^^
[21:04] <Wubbbi> boring
[21:04] <JontheEchidna> well now you have to upload it to revu and have it revu'd
[21:05] <Wubbbi> ok :D
[21:05] <JontheEchidna> It's not over yet!
[21:05]  * JontheEchidna laughs maniacally
[21:05] <Wubbbi> lol xD
[21:09] <Wubbbi> CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.6/Modules/FindKDE4.cmake:35 (MESSAGE):
[21:09] <Wubbbi>   ERROR: Could not find KDE4 kde4-config
[21:09] <Wubbbi> emmm ... what dows this mean?
[21:09] <Wubbbi> does
[21:10] <JontheEchidna> got the -dev packages for kde?
[21:11] <Wubbbi> ohhh ... forgott ^^ sorry
[21:11] <Wubbbi> xD
[21:13] <JontheEchidna> installing libplasma-dev should fix it
[21:13] <Wubbbi> apt is working :)
[21:16] <devfil> Riddell: there?
[21:20] <Wubbbi> "ERROR: Could not find KDE4 kde4-config" there is no kde4-config package :/
[21:21] <JontheEchidna> Wubbbi: what happens if you try to debuild plasmoid-weather?
[21:22] <Wubbbi> nothing
[21:22] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: is that intrepid?
[21:22] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: no ... hardy but with kde 4.1 paa "quellen" xD
[21:22] <JontheEchidna> that's the problem
[21:22] <Wubbbi> -_-
[21:22] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: you need to add /usr/lib/kde4/bin to your $PATH
[21:22] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: why did you switch to mandriva anyway?
[21:23] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: He's using intrepid cdbs, which is the problem
[21:23] <JontheEchidna> I thought he was in Intrepid
[21:23] <apachelogger> well
[21:23] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: I have switched back ;)
[21:23] <JontheEchidna> so I told him to apt-get source plasmoid-weather and copy cdbs and rules from it
[21:23] <apachelogger> I told you in the hardy cycle we should add the stuff to cdbs or create cdbs-kde4
[21:23] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: what to do now? Instell intrepid or a workaround
[21:23] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: sounds reasonable ;-)
[21:24] <JontheEchidna> Wubbbi: I thought you were using Intrepid
[21:24] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: Is that a big problem?
[21:24] <JontheEchidna> sorta
[21:24] <Wubbbi> I mean I can install it. If you want. But a workaround would be better ;)
[21:24] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: ;)
[21:24] <apachelogger> I hate workarounds!
[21:24] <JontheEchidna> you could build it with pbuilder
[21:25] <apachelogger> getmywine.com
[21:25] <JontheEchidna> which would be preferred
[21:25] <apachelogger> hm
[21:25] <apachelogger> I really should stop listening to web radios advertising wine :S
[21:26]  * apachelogger thinks about opening up a bottle
[21:26] <JontheEchidna> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#head-2979f8a826fc15379a92139c25bb513633d2023c
[21:26] <JontheEchidna> ^That way you can testbuild stuff without installing Intrepid
[21:26] <smarter> Riddell: do you know why cdbs 0.4.52ubuntu2 FTBFS'd?
[21:27] <apachelogger> smarter: what is the error?
[21:28] <smarter> apachelogger: something with a dep
[21:28] <apachelogger> the best error description ever ;-)
[21:29] <devfil> dblatex: Depends: texlive-xetex (>= 2007) but it is not going to be installed
[21:29] <smarter> has this been fixed?
[21:30] <devfil> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/texlive-xetex
[21:30] <devfil> the package exists and is in main
[21:30] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: ok I have done it. Now I need to creat a .dsc? how to do that? I forgoot xD
[21:30] <devfil> so where is the problem?
[21:30] <apachelogger> devfil: maybe it was not at build time
[21:30]  * smarter tries to pbuild it
[21:31] <devfil> apachelogger: then who can should do the giveback
[21:31] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: ok found xD
[21:31] <apachelogger> devfil: a core dev I guess
[21:32] <crimsun> s/core dev/archive admin/
[21:32] <JontheEchidna> Wubbbi: good ;)
[21:33] <apachelogger> devfil: an archive admin I guess
[21:33] <apachelogger> :P
[21:36] <smarter> Dear strigidaemon, please stop using 100% of two cores, dear Xorg, please stop using 500 MB of RAM, kthxbye
[21:39] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna:  it works :)
[21:40] <smarter> New error with cdbs: texlive-xetex: Depends: dvipdfmx which is a virtual package.
[21:41] <apachelogger> so I was right when I said that everything breakable is already broken so we can stop updating packages all day long ;-)
[21:42] <JontheEchidna> Wubbbi: cool, now upload to revu and poke somebody
[21:42]  * smarter don't really understand why cdbs needs latex stuff
[21:42] <apachelogger> smarter: doesn't look very virtual for me
[21:43] <JontheEchidna> smarter: dear strigidaemon, please stop using 10 Gb hdd space
[21:43] <JontheEchidna> kthx
[21:43] <apachelogger> ohhhhhhh
[21:43] <apachelogger> hum
[21:43] <apachelogger> smarter: I think it happens because that package is actually in universe
[21:44] <smarter> it was demoted?
[21:44] <apachelogger> bug 248605
[21:44] <apachelogger> needs to be promoted
[21:45] <smarter> grmbl
[21:45] <apachelogger> +1
[21:46] <smarter> that main/universe distraction is really annoying
[21:46] <smarter> *distinction
[21:46] <apachelogger> +1
[21:46] <apachelogger> -1
[21:47]  * smarter should not type at 11PM :p
[21:47]  * apachelogger should not be up
[21:47] <apachelogger> bindings is at 33%
[21:47]  * JontheEchidna should be up at 5 PM
[21:48] <apachelogger> if I am lucky it's only gonna take 45mins more
[21:54] <Wubbbi> test
[21:56] <yuriy> how am I supposed to call KIconLoader::global() in python?
[21:57] <JontheEchidna> take enough drugs so that the riverbankcomputing docs make sense
[21:57] <JontheEchidna> ...in regards to python
[21:57] <smarter> :P
[21:59] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: I have some problems. How to make a .deb now? I have the .dsc, source.build, source.changes and tar.gz
[22:02] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: hello?
[22:03] <JontheEchidna> hi
[22:03] <JontheEchidna> you'll need intrepid for that, I think
[22:03] <JontheEchidna> since you're making an Intrepid package
[22:04] <Wubbbi> -_- ... ok I will Install Intrepid Tomorow ;) Let me go the bed now. Its 23:03 o'clock. k?
[22:04] <JontheEchidna> lol, you can go to bed whenever you want
[22:04] <Wubbbi> my energy is low xD
[22:04] <Wubbbi> ^^
[22:04] <yuriy> you can make intrepid packages in pbuilder
[22:04] <yuriy> make an intrepid pbuilder on hardy
[22:04] <apachelogger> hum
[22:04] <Wubbbi> yuriy: done ... but how to make a .deb now?
[22:04] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: how comes you can go to bed and I can't :P
[22:05] <yuriy> Wubbbi: sudo pbuilder build nameoffile.dsc
[22:05] <yuriy> and the .debs will be in /var/cache/pbuilder/result/
[22:05] <Wubbbi> yuriy: I have done this but no .deb file :/
[22:05] <Wubbbi> ahhhh
[22:05] <Wubbbi> xD
[22:05] <Wubbbi> yuriy: why dont you told me earlyer ^^
[22:06] <JontheEchidna> damn, I have a lot of debs in there...
[22:06]  * apachelogger doesn't :P
[22:06]  * JontheEchidna didn't know about that
[22:06]  * apachelogger stores results in ./build/ relative to the dsc :P
[22:06] <JontheEchidna> Wubbbi: your deb won't be hardy compatible though
[22:06] <apachelogger> who needs hardy anyway?
[22:07]  * JontheEchidna really needs to find time to upgrade
[22:07] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: one is supposed to do this right after the new series is open for development
[22:07] <apachelogger> no problems at upgrade then ;-)
[22:08] <JontheEchidna> heh
[22:09] <a|wen> Riddell: the meeting on wednesday is scheduled to be the same time as a platform team meeting ... and the kubuntu meeting is not listed on the fridge; so we are probably the ones going to move either place or time
[22:11] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: the .deb file is created ... YEAH. And it seems to work. How to upload it now?
[22:11] <JontheEchidna> you don't upload the .debs to revu ;P
[22:12] <Wubbbi> -_- ... what to I upload?
[22:12] <JontheEchidna> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU?highlight=%28Revu%29
[22:13] <apachelogger> a|wen, Riddell: I think we could do it as well in here
[22:16] <a|wen> apachelogger: yeah, moving the place is often the best (to not disturb peoples schedules) ... if Riddell agrees I suppose he'll add that to the fridge then :)
[22:17] <apachelogger> nixternal would have to do that
[22:17] <apachelogger> but nixternal is all busy with is new favorite operating system :P
[22:18] <JontheEchidna> visternal has been strangely absent lately...
[22:18] <a|wen> uhh, that sounds frightening
[22:19] <Wubbbi> Warning: The execution of '/usr/bin/scp' as
[22:19] <Wubbbi>   'scp -p /home/egon/Desktop/plasmoid-teacooker_0.2.0-0ubuntu1.dsc /home/egon/Desktop/plasmoid-teacooker_0.2.0-0ubuntu1.tar.gz /home/egon/Desktop/plasmoid-teacooker_0.2.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes anonymous@revu.ubuntuwire.com:/incoming'
[22:19] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: work
[22:19] <Wubbbi> what dows this mean?
[22:19] <Wubbbi> Uploading to revu (via scp to revu.ubuntuwire.com):
[22:19] <Wubbbi> Permission denied (publickey).
[22:19] <Wubbbi> lost connection
[22:19] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: read the wiki page :P
[22:19] <apachelogger> you have to join revu-uploaders and wait for your key to be synced in
[22:20] <apachelogger> or poke a revu admin to kick off the syncing
[22:20] <JontheEchidna> ^That's what I did
[22:20] <JontheEchidna> once it's up there poke me for a revu
[22:21] <JontheEchidna> though my revus don't really "count" for advocacy and such
[22:21]  * apachelogger is wondering whether his do
[22:21] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: so what I got to do now?
[22:23] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: read the
[22:23] <apachelogger> Register as a REVU uploader
[22:23] <apachelogger> section on the wiki page
[22:25] <Wubbbi> I have done everything on there
[22:25] <yuriy> hmm according to the docs I should be able to do KIconLoader.global() but it says syntax error
[22:25] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: *switchlanguage* kannst du mir das man auf deutsch erklären? also ich hab alle punkte die da stehen gemacht
[22:25] <Wubbbi> upppppppps
[22:26] <Wubbbi> key not added ^^
[22:27] <Wubbbi> ok done
[22:27] <Wubbbi> but still wont work
[22:27] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: du musst warten bis der in den schlüsselbund von revu übernommen wurde
[22:27] <Wubbbi> das dauert wie lange?
[22:27] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: oder du findest nen revu admin der gerade online ist und bittest ihn ganz lieb den key zu syncen
[22:28] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: maximal 24h
[22:28] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: steht auch irgendwo auf der wiki page ;-)
[22:28] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna:  are you a revu admin?
[22:28] <apachelogger> jpds is
[22:28] <apachelogger> dunno if he is awake though
[22:28]  * jpds arises.
[22:28] <Riddell> a|wen: mm, fooey, poke nixternal
[22:28] <Wubbbi> jpds: can you syncen my key?
[22:28] <Wubbbi> please
[22:29] <jpds> Wubbbi: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/ - log in with LP id.
[22:29] <Wubbbi> jpds: done
[22:29] <jpds> Wubbbi: Now upload.
[22:29] <apachelogger> omg
[22:29] <apachelogger> new revu
[22:29] <apachelogger> jeez
[22:29] <JontheEchidna> new revu?????
[22:29] <jpds> They put me outta my job :( The whole thing is automatic now..
[22:29]  * JontheEchidna clicks
[22:29] <smarter> jpds: :P
[22:29] <apachelogger> jpds: you could get them to use oxygen icons :)
[22:29] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: how to upload?
[22:30] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: wiki :P
[22:30] <Wubbbi> jpds: i think its done
[22:30] <jpds> Wubbbi: dput revu *_source.changes
[22:30] <Wubbbi> hmm still get the error
[22:30] <jpds> smarter: I feel unloved.
[22:30] <jpds> apachelogger: Poke NCommander in -motu.
[22:30]  * smarter hugs jpds :P
[22:30] <apachelogger> jpds: we still love you :)
[22:30] <Wubbbi> Uploading to revu (via scp to revu.ubuntuwire.com):
[22:30] <Wubbbi> Permission denied (publickey).
[22:30] <Wubbbi> lost connection
[22:30] <Wubbbi> not goood
[22:30] <smarter> you just need to remind everyone to click on "Merge REVU accounts" :p
[22:30]  * jpds performs sudo killall quasselcore on smarter's shell.
[22:31]  * jpds hugs apachelogger
[22:31] <smarter> noooo
[22:31] <a|wen> nixternal: can you add our meeting on wednesday to the fridge? ... and we've ended up in the same time as a platform meeting, so it'll be held in #kubuntu-devel instead
[22:31] <apachelogger> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/stats.py
[22:31] <apachelogger> I am #4
[22:31] <apachelogger> how cool is that
[22:31]  * apachelogger rehugs jpds
[22:31]  * JontheEchidna is #98
[22:31] <apachelogger> hm 2 comments an I am #2 :D
[22:31] <JontheEchidna> oh, we're looking at different lists
[22:31] <apachelogger> who wants a free revu?
[22:32] <JontheEchidna> lol
[22:32] <apachelogger> ah
[22:32] <Wubbbi> I have loged in in REVU. I have send my key via "gpg --send-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 8067091B" but why I cant upload? -.-
[22:32] <apachelogger> xand3r wants
[22:33] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: you have to configure your key in launchpad
[22:33] <Wubbbi> how
[22:33] <jpds> Wubbbi: Have you registered it on LP?
[22:33] <smarter> anyway, good night everybody
[22:33] <Wubbbi> jpds: yes and I'm loged in in REVU
[22:33] <JontheEchidna> g'night
[22:33] <Wubbbi> ohhh
[22:34] <Wubbbi> how to regist on launchpad?
[22:34] <jpds> night smarter
[22:34] <Wubbbi> oO
[22:35] <jpds> Why does LP have to change everytime I visit it?
[22:35] <Wubbbi> How to register my Key on Launchpad?
[22:35] <a|wen> jpds: you might consider visiting it more often ;)
[22:35] <smarter> Launchpad is polymorphic.
[22:36] <JontheEchidna> by the way, the utnubu team no longer exists
[22:37] <apachelogger> did they run out of work?
[22:37] <JontheEchidna> no
[22:37] <JontheEchidna> it just sorta died I guess
[22:37] <jpds> JontheEchidna: They're ubuntu-dct now - or something
[22:37] <JontheEchidna> oh
[22:37] <apachelogger> what does dct stand for?
[22:38] <jpds> Debian Collorbration Team
[22:38] <smarter> Debian is Cool Too :P
[22:38] <JontheEchidna> it would have been nice for the person who said it was on the utnubu mailing list to tell me that
[22:38] <a|wen> Wubbbi: login to LP, go to your profile page, click change details in upper right corner, choose SSH Keys
[22:38] <jpds> Wubbbi: https://edge.launchpad.net/~jpds/+editpgpkeys
[22:38] <apachelogger> well, he should change the nick ;-)
[22:38] <jpds> Err, s/jpds/wubbi/
[22:38] <apachelogger> jpds: ncommander is not aroundish
[22:39]  * apachelogger starts crying
[22:39] <jpds> apachelogger: Strange, he's in East US.
[22:42] <JontheEchidna> lawl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5470051#post5470051
[22:44] <Wubbbi> jpds: ok is done :D
[22:44] <jpds> Wubbbi: Not SSH, GnuPG key.
[22:44] <Wubbbi> done
[22:44] <Wubbbi> but i still get the error :/
[22:45] <jpds> Now login to revu again
[22:45] <Wubbbi> done
[22:45] <Wubbbi> and now?
[22:45] <jpds> Wubbbi: https://edge.launchpad.net/~wubbbi/+editpgpkeys
[22:46] <Wubbbi> ADC05343F823000F964D7C17DC0DBE2F8067091B
[22:46] <a|wen> jpds: lol
[22:46] <Wubbbi> thats the key
[22:46] <Wubbbi> I have done
[22:46] <Wubbbi> and now?
[22:46] <jpds> Check your inbox for a confirm email.
[22:46] <jpds> a|wen: ?
[22:47] <a|wen> JontheEchidna: lol
[22:47] <JontheEchidna> found it on digg
[22:47] <a|wen> jpds: ^^ ... can't hit the right keys atm :P
[22:47] <jpds> a|wen: Ah yes, the dreaded tab.
[22:48] <Wubbbi> jpds: ok done
[22:48] <Wubbbi> but still the same error
[22:48] <jpds> Wubbbi: Now login to REVU
[22:48] <a|wen> jpds: yeah ... after beeing afk for 3 weeks and you just need to get back into the game :)
[22:48] <Wubbbi> jpds: done
[22:49] <Wubbbi> still the error
[22:49] <jpds> Wubbbi: And "dput revu" the *.changes package you have.
[22:49] <jpds> a|wen: Nice holiday?
[22:49] <Wubbbi> still error
[22:49] <jpds> Wubbbi: Was machst du?
[22:50] <Wubbbi> wie was mach ich?
[22:50] <jpds> pastebin the error at paste.ubuntu.com
[22:50] <a|wen> jpds: yeah ... and leaving for another week tomorrow; so expect me to be back to highlight you in error again then :P
[22:51] <Wubbbi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/31037/
[22:52] <jpds> Wubbbi: Please pastebin /etc/dput.cf
[22:52] <jpds> a|wen: Have a nice trip!
[22:52] <Wubbbi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/31039/
[22:53] <a|wen> jpds: thanks
[22:54] <Wubbbi> jpds: find the mistake?
[22:54] <jpds> Wubbbi: Versuche mit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/31040/
[22:54] <Wubbbi> still error
[22:55] <jpds> Hmm.
[22:55] <jpds> Same one?
[22:55] <Wubbbi> yes
[22:56] <jpds> It shouldn't be using scp, but *shudder* FTP.
[22:56] <Wubbbi> Active keys
[22:56] <Wubbbi> 1024D/8067091B
[22:56] <Wubbbi> the key is activ
[22:56] <Wubbbi> jpds: how to change that?
[22:57] <a|wen> Wubbbi: did you get someone to sync revu after you added your gpg key?
[22:57] <jpds> Wubbbi: Did you sign the package with that key?
[22:57] <Wubbbi> jpds: yes
[22:57] <jpds> a|wen: The process is automatic now, and is done by simply logging into REVU.
[22:57] <Wubbbi> a|wen: I dont understand ... I got a e-mail and i have activated it
[22:57] <jpds> Wubbbi: Do: dput revu plasmoid-teacooker_0.2.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes
[22:58] <a|wen> jpds: ahh, cool :) ... Wubbbi: never mind then
[22:58] <Wubbbi> jpds: still the error
[22:58] <Wubbbi> -.-
[22:59] <jpds> Wubbbi: Poke RainCT in #ubuntu-motu, ich muss jetzt gehen zu schlafen.
[22:59] <jpds> G'night.
[22:59] <Wubbbi> nice google translater ^^
[22:59] <Wubbbi> good night ;)
[22:59] <jpds> Wubbbi: (I spent last summer learning German),
[23:00] <Wubbbi> jpds:  xD
[23:00] <Wubbbi> the words are right but the grammar is still english ;)
[23:00] <a|wen> gutenacht jpds
[23:03] <a|wen> ich soll auch jetzt schlafen gehen :P ... goodnight
[23:05] <Wubbbi> gn
[23:11] <apachelogger> yay
[23:11] <apachelogger> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/stats.py
[23:11]  * apachelogger starts dancing
[23:19] <devfil> Riddell: there?
[23:20] <Riddell> hi devfil
[23:20] <devfil> Riddell: please consider to upload http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/31046/
[23:27] <Riddell> ok
[23:36] <Riddell> thanks devfil
[23:36]  * Riddell snoozes
[23:37] <devfil> Riddell: thanks at you
[23:37] <apachelogger> SolarWar: btw, I usually don't notice queries ;-)
[23:37] <SolarWar> apachelogger, no problem didn't want to flood the channel :)
[23:37] <apachelogger> SolarWar: that was perfect topic
[23:38] <apachelogger> otherwise there is always -motu :)
[23:38] <SolarWar> okie, from now i'll just bother you here then haha
[23:38] <SolarWar> so if you get a chance, could you check out the revu package?
[23:39] <apachelogger> doing right now
[23:39] <apachelogger> SolarWar: if you write review requests public change is that someone else also starts to review
[23:39] <SolarWar> i'm considering putting a watch file in as well, but i need to read up on uscan
[23:41] <SolarWar> oh okay, i was going to request public reviews once you had had a chance to look it over, but i can ask publically as well
[23:42] <apachelogger> that is one minimal debian/rules file :D
[23:43] <SolarWar> seemed to do the job, i used another package as an example (gnomad2)
[23:44] <apachelogger> SolarWar: just weird, usually people add too much stuff in your case I have to check whether something is missing ;-)
[23:48] <SolarWar> ahh, I didn't know which helper scripts to call :) i think the call to dh_installexamples is largely useless as i have no examples
[23:49] <SolarWar> and i'm not sure about dh_gencontrol either
[23:51] <apachelogger> SolarWar: every debhelper script has a manpage
[23:52] <apachelogger> dh_gencontrol - generate and install control file
[23:52] <apachelogger> quite important ;-)
[23:52] <apachelogger> theoretically everything under dh_installman shouldn't be removed
[23:53] <SolarWar> i read the manpage for dh_gencontrol and it says that it will create a control file, but I already have a control file
[23:53] <apachelogger> SolarWar: dh_gencontrol is basically a wrapper for dpkg-gencontrol
[23:53] <apachelogger> I think it mentions that in the manpage
[23:54] <apachelogger> or I rather hope it does ;-)
[23:54] <apachelogger> SolarWar: so take a look at the dpkg-gencontrol manpage, that should lighten things up :)
[23:55] <SolarWar> okie doke
[23:55] <apachelogger> raphink: why is it that revu-report can't store it's stuff in a subdirectory :S


[00:05] <sidi> Just wanting to confirm something I strongly suspect: there is no way for Quilt to support patches on or additions of binary files? I'm patching theme packages and need to add additional PNG files.
[00:27] <wgrant> sidi: quilt itself can't, but the 3.0 (quilt) Debian source package format can include extra binaries listed in debian/source/include-binaries.
[15:04] <Odd_Bloke> wgrant: I assume that you are depending on armhf cloud images for ScalingStack, right?
[15:05] <Odd_Bloke> (cjwatson: ^)
[15:08] <Odd_Bloke> Oh, wait, perhaps you're using the arm64 images for the armhf builders.
[15:25] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: Right.  We could use the armhf images in principle, but multi-architecture builders can be more efficiently deployed so we'd prefer that.  I believe there's an SRU in process to let us emulate armhf more accurately.
[15:28] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: OK, so if we were to drop armhf cloud images in xenial, that wouldn't make you sad?
[15:33] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: It *probably* won't affect us, but wgrant is a little more current on this
[21:59] <wgrant> Odd_Bloke: Why would you drop armhf cloud images?
[22:00] <wgrant> We don't current use them, but they're pretty handy for testing and it'd be nice to leave the option open/
[22:00] <wgrant> Given they don't even have a bootloader, are they non-trivial to build?
[22:04] <wgrant> Odd_Bloke: (but other consumers of scalingstack, eg. pitti, want to use armhf cloud-images and I'm trying to sort the cloud config out so they can)
[23:23] <sergio-br2> launchpad seems slow today


[01:12] <OvenWerks> StevenJayCohen[m: Studio Controls should just work in Debian same as ubuntu. It is just a script after all. It would just be a matter of making sure the depends align. In other words, it just needs to be packaged for debian. Packaging is something the packagers for each distro need to take care of.
 "Steven Jay Cohen: Studio..." <- Understood. It seems that the 20.04 version works but the 21.10 version does not (on Debian 11). Also, I tried adding the PPA and got an error complaining of a file missing so the PPA would be disabled. Sorry, forgot to write down the error. I can try it again if that is helpful at all.
 "Understood. It seems that the 20..." <- Ign:4 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-ppa/backports/ubuntu jammy InRelease... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/67ab8adabd278b6b3d4a5108eccddcb48279b622)
[13:25] <StevenJayCohen[m> > <@stevenjaycohen:matrix.org> Ign:4 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-ppa/backports/ubuntu jammy InRelease... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/a076e638ea583af542c6ba7dbed4698e5d297ca5)
[17:07] <Eickmeyer[m]> Steven Jay Cohen: There have been no packages published for Jammy in the PPA because one does not backport from a development branch to itself. Jammy is, as of now, unsupported everywhere.
[17:08] <Eickmeyer[m]> Backports is, by definition, backports of newer packages in the development branch to the currently supported releases.
[17:08] <Eickmeyer[m]> Basically, that error is expected.
 "Basically, that error is..." <- Got it!


[12:15] -ubottu:#ubuntu-ops- jailbreak called the ops in #ubuntu (kokomop3n0r)
[12:38] -ubottu:#ubuntu-ops- In #ubuntu-bots, lotuspsychje requested: !no next is <reply> Noble Numbat is the codename for Ubuntu 24.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality
[16:06] -ubottu:#ubuntu-ops- In #ubuntu-bots, Eickmeyer requested: !no ubuntustudio-channels is <reply> #ubuntustudio is the Ubuntu Studio support and creativity discussion channel, #ubuntustudio-devel for discussion regarding development of Ubuntu Studio, and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Thanks!
[21:24] -ubottu:#ubuntu-ops- Eickmeyer called the ops in #ubuntu (Guest42 Belligerant user, violating code of conduct, refusing help.)
[21:25] -ubottu:#ubuntu-ops- arraybolt3 called the ops in #ubuntu (Guest42 is causing disruption)
[21:26] -ubottu:#ubuntu-ops- Eickmeyer called the ops in #ubuntu (Guest42 now with multiple guideline and CoC violations)
[22:36] <Montresor> Eickmeyer: ...I don't think 3 calls in a row is helpful..
[22:36] <Eickmeyer> Montresor: Yeah, neither is two.
[22:37] <Montresor> Correct.
[22:38] <Eickmeyer> Dude started throwing people on /ignore if he didn't like what they were saying.
[22:39] <Montresor> It happens, we've also had regulars that announced to users when they were too annoying and got /ignored. :/
[22:40] <Eickmeyer> Right, but you know I don't abuse the !ops trigger. In fact, I avoid it.
[22:43] <Montresor> Not saying it's not warranted, but 2+ doesn't usually make people come quicker.  Not saying you're trigger happy or anything. :P
[22:43] <Montresor> I'll be around for a bit, hopefully he's done for the day..


[19:36] <kward> What /topic
[19:36] <kward> oops
[19:37] <kward> ooooooo
[19:37] <kward> argh, i'm switching keyboards
[19:46] <kward> OK, lets try this again, not sure how to proceed now with LP #1706284 The patches and relevant information is in there including the patch/debdiff, but no-one bar me has got around to reproducing it bar me, what status do i leave it in, New?
[19:47] <kward> at the moment its In Progress (while i was working on the patches), I've done all I can
[19:49] <kward> wasn't sure whether to query in here or -devel


[18:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- slyon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4704 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination


[00:14] <McNever> anybody up for some fun with firewire?
[00:15] <McNever> backend is detecting my STB, or at least it sees the ID, but i'm not getting a channel lock
[00:16] <McNever> i assume if its seeing the GUID my firewire card and the port on the cable box are ok
[00:16] <McNever> and its more of a config/compatibility issue within myth then
[00:20] <McNever> only thing i appear to be getting in my logs are a bunch of "LFireDev(001E6B7F9F240000), Warning: No Input in ### S" errors
[00:41] <dedi> hey. i just installed 10.4 beta. after changing the frontend skin i cant access several "pages" in the frontend, one of them is the apearance settings so i cant change it back. i deleted .mythtv in home, dont know how to reset the skin
[00:47] <dedi> i also tried purging package mythtv-frontend, did not help. so please tell me how to reset the skin or whole frontend config
[00:50] <superm1> there is a frontend option for it
[00:50] <superm1> mythfrontend --help
[00:52] <dedi> perfect, thanks superm1 :)
[01:29] <dwmcqueen> Hello - is there an easy fix for a "2010-03-21 16:05:27.647 DVBChan(1:/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0) Error: SetChannelByString(48): Failed to initialize multiplex options" error?
[01:54] <ZykoticK9> Last night I installed Mythbuntu Lucid Beta1 on my htpc box, I have nvidia and tried to select using the closed source driver from the installer (perhaps this was the problem?), but after install Xorg would not start.  I just installed Ubuntu beta1 and Xorg worked fine.  Nvidia 6150 (onboard), anyone else reporting similar?
[02:09] <superm1> ZykoticK9, does it work if you enable the nvidia driver post-install using the hardware drivers tool?
[02:16] <ZykoticK9> superm1, i'm affraid I can't test as i now have Ubuntu installed (I will probably reinstall Mythbuntu to test again), I was totally unable to get into Xorg with the Mythbuntu install (tried with and without Xorg, but X didn't start) - on reinstall i'm certainly going to select the Open Source option for nvidia.
[02:19] <superm1> ZykoticK9, okay great.  if you can identify that's the option causing problems, then we can try to look closer into what's up
[02:20] <ZykoticK9> superm1, thanks for the replay (asked a few times today in #ubuntu+1 with links to pastebins with the xorg logs) no one gave a reply
[02:21] <Saviq> hi again, any idea how to fight "DVB: Unable to find symbol stv090x_attach()"?
[02:22] <Saviq> two bugs about it already https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/483618 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/502393
[02:22] <Zinn> [bugs.launchpad.net] Bug #483618 in linux (Ubuntu): “TechnoTrend TT-budget S2-1600 init fails”
[02:22] <ZykoticK9> superm1, on a perhaps related note - if i chose "Install Ubuntu" from the LiveCD although the main window worked fine, everything else on screen did not update, so dragging the window around left "trailers".  This behaviour did not occur if i used Try Ubuntu then launched the installer.
[02:23] <superm1> ZykoticK9, you are referring to the mythbuntu media or the ubuntu media?
[02:24] <ZykoticK9> superm1, Mythbuntu - didn't try the install on Ubuntu
[02:24] <superm1> ZykoticK9, it's quite possibly a nouveau bug going on here then too
[03:17] <ZykoticK9> So it appears that Lucid does not solve Hauppauge HVR-1600 remote not working https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lirc/+bug/454371 I was REALLY hoping it would
[03:17] <Zinn> [bugs.launchpad.net] Bug #454371 in lirc (Ubuntu): “Hauppauge HVR-1600 Remote Not Detected”
[03:38] <superm1> ZykoticK9, lirc hasn't been touched yet for lucid much, so it's still possible to get fixed
[03:39] <ZykoticK9> superm1, well that's "almost" good news ;)
[03:39] <superm1> but that's an annoying bug
[03:39] <ZykoticK9> tell me about it!
[03:40] <ZykoticK9> it worked perfect in 9.04 - since then, not so much
[03:40] <superm1> particularly from the perspective of fixing it :)
[03:40] <ZykoticK9> that's not what i wanted to hear.
[03:43] <ZykoticK9> superm1, and you would happen to be a mythbuntu-dev, so you probably know what your talking about!  bad news for my 1600 i guess.
[03:46] <superm1> ZykoticK9, yeah.  i'll take a closer look at it again soon, but its also especially hard to figure out the right solution without having that hardware for doing experiments and looking at details with how the system is handling things
[03:47] <ZykoticK9> i can certainly see how not having the h/w would make it MUCH more difficult!
[04:41] <ZykoticK9> superm1, so i reinstall mythbuntu - selecting the open source driver from the install works correctly, but once I enabled nvidia-current and rebooted X no longer starts.  Uninstalled nvidia-current rebooted and got into low graphics mode, enabled the 173 driver from jockey rebooted and again X would no longer start.  Any suggestions?
[04:41] <superm1> ZykoticK9, well when X doesn't start, do you get a collection of logs to work from at the command line?
[04:42] <superm1> er well let me start here..
[04:42] <superm1> so it recommended nvidia-current or 173 for you?
[04:42] <ZykoticK9> superm1, i can certainly pastebin the xorg.log.0 or similar if you'd like
[04:42] <ZykoticK9> it recommended current
[04:42] <superm1> okay so that's probably what got installed from the live installer too
[04:43] <superm1> so with nvidia-current installed, what you want to do is run "ubuntu-bug nvidia-current" from the command line
[04:43] <superm1> and it will file a bug with everything that is needed
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> superm1, will do!  right now.
[05:00] <ZykoticK9> superm1, submitted bug #544793 but perhaps my already uninstalling nvidia-current will corrupt the bug - I noticed that  "DkmsStatus: nvidia-173" is listed in bug report -- do you think i should mark this invalid reinstall 195 then resubmit?
[05:00] <Zinn> Bug 544793 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "With nvidia-current Xorg fails to start" [Undecided, New] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/544793
[05:02] <superm1> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device PCI:0:5:0.
[05:02] <superm1> that's your error
[05:02] <superm1> [   16.214387] NVRM: failed to map registers!!
[05:02] <superm1> [   16.214392] NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed! (0x10:0x32:1356)
[05:02] <superm1> [   16.214403] NVRM: rm_init_adapter(0) failed
[05:03] <ZykoticK9> superm1, would 195 vs 173 nvidia play a role?
[05:03] <superm1> it's possible, you can compare logs with 173 to see if it's any better
[05:04] <superm1> or you can have some dying hardware here perhaps?
[05:04] <ZykoticK9> superm1, are you (we) seeing the 195 or 173 error though?  I'm guessing 173
[05:04] <ZykoticK9> superm1, it's certainly working fine with the Karmic install - dual boothing the two
[05:04] <ZykoticK9> s/boothing/booting
[05:04] <superm1> ZykoticK9, you have 173 in that log...
[05:04] <superm1> i thought you installed current?
[05:05] <superm1> and which one are you using in karmic?
[05:05] <ZykoticK9> superm1, origionally i did - but to try and fix it i removed current (no change)
[05:05] <superm1> ZykoticK9, so i think need to compare what the logs say with -current (195)
[05:05] <ZykoticK9> superm1, so do you think it would be more valuable if i reinstalled current and resubmitted bug?
[05:05] <superm1> probably,
[05:06] <superm1> because NV is not really fixing bugs on the old drivers
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> superm1, ok, thanks for all your help by the way
[05:07] <superm1> no prob.  it's better to fix problems now before it's too late with the gold media cut :)
[05:45] <ZykoticK9> superm1, I'm sure you have better things to do then help me with this bug, but does bug #544817 give more helpful information?  It should be back to 195 driver now.
[05:45] <Zinn> Bug 544817 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "Nvidia 6150 fails to start Xorg with nvidia-current" [Undecided, New] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/544817
[05:52] <Ghost1227> anyone able to tell me how to move the restore/minimize/close buttons back to the right side of windows?
[05:53] <ZykoticK9> Ghost1227, http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/move-buttons-to-right-side
[05:54] <Ghost1227> ZykoticK9: i know about that, but this version doesn't appear to use metacity
[05:54] <ZykoticK9> Ghost1227, ahh good point!  I have no idea man
[05:54] <Ghost1227> lol
[05:55] <superm1> there is an option in the window settings for xfce in the GUI actually
[05:55] <superm1> settings->window manager
[05:58] <superm1> ZykoticK9, looks like the same error
[05:58] <superm1> so i'd follow what it says in looking for common problems in the README (in that xorg log)
[05:58] <ZykoticK9> superm1, doesn't surprise me at all - same outcome with both
[05:58] <superm1> and see if there is anything that stands out for what might be causing it
[05:59] <Ghost1227> superm1: you rule, thanks
[06:00] <Ghost1227> next question... how do you disable rxvt transparency?
[06:25] <superm1> rxvt?  rxvt isn't installed in mythbuntu
[06:34] <Ghost1227> no, but i installed it because i dislike the xfce terminal :P
[06:34] <Ghost1227> i figured it out though
[07:23] <ZykoticK9> superm1, thanks again for the guidance earlier (i really appreciated it).  Turns out I have a short memory, there is an issue with Nvidia and Hauppauge 1600 where simply adding "vmalloc=256MB" to /etc/default/grub solves the issue - this issue was present in Karmic as well, I of course forgot about it since installing Karmic (i have already marked by 2nd bug invalid).  Thanks again.
[07:23] <Ghost1227> hmm
[07:24] <Ghost1227> off the wall question... anyone know a way of adding an embedded addressbar to a website?
[17:57] <dewman> has anyone seen where there are channels on qam64 and on qam256?
[18:22] <McNever> anybody up for some fun with firewire?
[18:22] <McNever> backend is detecting my STB, or at least it sees the GUID, but i'm not getting a channel lock
[18:22] <McNever> i assume if its seeing the GUID my firewire card and the port on the cable box are ok
[18:23] <McNever> and its more of a config/compatibility issue within myth then
[18:30] <mrand> McNever: not many people using firewire here I don't think.  Probably have better luck searching on forums or mythtv mailing list.
[18:34] <rhpot1991> McNever: did you check for encryption?
[18:35] <rhpot1991> thats the most common thing that will cause you to not get a channel lock
[18:55] <dewman> is there a mythfill database log somewhere?
[18:56] <mrand> mine is in /var/log/mythtv
[19:02] <dewman> thanks. I am trying to figure out a channel mapping issue. The channel is actually espnHD but in the frontend it is showing guide data as a local....
[23:13] <zuixro_> I have a userjob that edits commercials out of my recordings after they have been flagged. I need to delay it from running until after the recording has finished transcoding and flagging. Is there an easy way to do that?
[23:30] <rhpot1991> zuixro_: I thought that happened by default
[23:31] <rhpot1991> check in mythtv-setup where you enable user jobs there are a few settings in there
[23:31] <zuixro_> Nope. It queues up all the jobs at all the jobs at once, and since I have 2 backends, it runs multiple at once
[23:32] <zuixro_> I looked through them, I didn't see anything that seemed relevant. It allows you to defer transcoding for a day, but that's it.
[23:37] <rhpot1991> hmmm just the option to transcode before commflagging it seems
[23:37] <rhpot1991> have your job check for commflagging or transcoding and sleep until its done
[23:43] <zuixro_> Good idea. I'll have to study up on my shell script-fu.  I'd rather have it not even enqueue it until the transcoding was complete though. I'll look into it


[06:40] <dholbach> good morning
[15:28] <JanC> DHL was at my door today with a package from Promese  ☺
[15:29] <JanC> (unfortunately I wasn't home yet)
[15:29] <JanC> but that's really quick, considering yesterday was a holiday...


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[01:56] <xubuntu32i> hahah i know chanserv
[01:56] <xubuntu32i> dang
[01:56] <xubuntu32i> fedora was a mistake
[13:40]  * ssarah says hi
[13:40] <knome> hello
[13:44] <akxwi-dave> yo!
[21:52] <ngomes> hello
[21:53] <ngomes> can anyone tell me where the wallpapers for xubuntu 16.04 are located ?
[21:54] <Unit193> dpkg -L xubuntu-wallpapers → /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops
[21:56] <ngomes> thanks
[22:38] <xubuntu82wDan> Help please! Installed 16.04 on a MSI Cubi N3050 box and unable to get HDMI to work. Display app can only detect DP1. VGA only.
[23:01] <xubuntu82wDan> Anyone have any ideas please. Purge intel drivers? I want to force HDMI1 to turn on. Thanks Dan
[23:05] <xubuntu65i> Install works fine but on reboot screen just gos to multy color snow/static. Radon R5 Kivardy on board as best as I can tell. 14.02 worked out of box but it is not on download page.
[23:08] <xubuntu65i> Got redhat running out of box ... nevermind.
[23:22] <xubuntu82wDan> any experts in the house? still waiting for advice. hdmi refuses to work - thanks Dan
[23:34] <xubuntu82wDan> i've got to run, will come back here again tomorrow if the problem persists


[19:56] <lug|97> topic says aug 15?
[20:00] <pleia2> I don't have ops here anymore (since the move?) so someone else will have to fix it :)