[22:35] <Vinceman> both in seamonkey and firefox I don't see it anymore
[22:35] <pozic> happosade: it is an approximation of random numbers.
[22:35] <Slart> Server_Side: I don't think you can retrieve *any* passwords.. you can set new ones using a live cd or recovery console though
[22:35] <losher> Server_Side: you can't retrieve it, in general. You *can* reset it to something new, though...
[22:35] <mattwj2002> anyone know what the network support is for a Linksys WPC300N is under Ubuntu?
[22:35] <pozic> happosade: cryptography assumes random numbers, which are a mathematical abstraction.
[22:36] <Server_Side> losher: how can i set a new one?
[22:36] <julio> galera tem drive de video S3 ?
[22:36] <mattwj2002> does it run right out of the box?
[22:36] <julio> para ubuntu
[22:36] <julio> ?
[22:36] <happosade> pozic: seems like just writing random data to HD is not enougth
[22:36] <Slart> !br | julio
[22:37] <happosade> SSH-server in other room.
[22:37] <losher> Server_Side: what Slart said. set new ones using a live cd or recovery console
[22:37] <happosade> For his own services
[22:37] <losher> !root
[22:37] <Server_Side> so i have to reinstall?
[22:38] <losher> Server_Side: reinstalling would do it, but it's very drastic. There are simpler ways. Let me see if I can find you a web page...
[22:38] <pozic> happosade: where is the random data coming from?
[22:38] <happosade> HD writing, little networking
[22:38] <pozic> happosade: no, I mean the file which you are writing.
[22:38] <Gualem_> Gualem
[22:39] <happosade> pozic: just script that writes some random data
[22:39] <losher> Server_Side: have a look at http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/How_do_I_reset_my_root_password%3F. Googling turns up hundreds more...
[22:39] <pozic> happosade: there is no entropy in that.
[22:39] <happosade> fast as possible
[22:39] <Gualem_> Gualem steffen1982
[22:40] <linxeh> happosade: what is creating the "random data" then ?
[22:40] <happosade> self-written skript
[22:40] <happosade> Hoorah.
[22:40] <papapep> Gualem_: I think you should try this in a non channel client tab
[22:40] <linxeh> and what is generating it?
[22:40] <pozic> happosade: getting quality random numbers is a problem for servers. Some people solve it by parsing webcam output.
[22:40] <linxeh> or monitoring network traffic, mouse movements, etc
[22:40] <pozic> happosade: hardware random number generators also exist.
[22:40] <Slart> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//dev/random
[22:40] <happosade> Plugging keyboard and hitting that like mainiac made it! o/
[22:41] <losher> !password | Server_Side
[22:41] <mechtech_ny> Slart: you still here?
[22:41] <Slart> mechtech_ny: sure
[22:42] <mechtech_ny> Salrt: having a bear of a time trying to get gnutella to become unfirewalled so I can find stuff
[22:42] <mechtech_ny> !gtk-gnutella
[22:42] <mechtech_ny> was worth a shot
[22:43] <Noble> Is there a compiz function similar to the new aero thing in 7 where you can maximize a window over half the screen if you drag it to the edge.
[22:43] <Slart> mechtech_ny: not sure how gnutella does its thing.. but I'm guessing you need to have a port open in the firewall (if you've closed it) and also port forwarded from your router to the desktop machine
[22:43] <mechtech_ny> Slart...done both...in fact, right now ufw is disabled
[22:43] <Slart> mechtech_ny: that's as specific as I can get.. I don't know what settings are available in gnutella
[22:43] <mechtech_ny> Slart...even installed the GUI for UFW so I could "see" what's up
[22:44] <Slart> mechtech_ny: you can check if the port is open from this site http://nmap-online.com/
[22:44] <losher> mechtech_ny: which port did you open?
[22:44] <ctmjr> Noble: you might ask that in the #compiz channel
[22:44] <mechtech_ny> losher: 5190, I think
[22:45] <aaaaa[^^]> ohh god, i ruined my alsa microphone  , is there a good thread,post or sth in a how to stlyle to reset it ?
[22:45] <mechtech_ny> losher:  lemme check
[22:45] <losher> mechtech_ny: I'm just wondering if your ISP blocks the 'well-known' ports. If all else fails, try again with a different port number....?
[22:45] <bullgard4> What function fulfills the Ubuntu service 'Audio settings management (alsa-utils)'? On one Ubuntu 9.04 computer I did not assert it, and I cannot detect any audio malfunctioning.
[22:45] <mechtech_ny> losher: been using limewire on my wife's mac with great success
[22:45] <macgyver_> hey all
[22:46] <losher> mechtech_ny: on the same port?
[22:46] <mechtech_ny> losher: will check
[22:46] <VirusTB> hey
[22:46] <erUSUL> !frostwire
[22:47] <macgyver_> I am looking for some guidance, I have installed Ubuntu, and I would like to create a backup iso of the installation so in future I have a restore point without having to reinstall all my applications, is this possible?
[22:47] <Slart> !backup | macgyver_
[22:47] <Slart> !clone | macgyver_
[22:47] <mechtech_ny> losher: on router, portmapped 27768
[22:47] <mattwj2002> !bash
[22:47] <erUSUL> macgyver_: you can use partimage to make and image of the partition(s)
[22:47] <macgyver_> Slart, thank you very much!
[22:47] <losher> mechtech_ny: dunno then, sorry....
[22:47] <mattwj2002> !slap
[22:47] <erUSUL> !info partimage | macgyver_
[22:47] <mechtech_ny> losher to my ip address, then hardcoded that ip on this machine
[22:48] <revstray> g'day all
[22:48] <macgyver_> is there a way to make my install into a bootable iso?
[22:48] <revstray> I'm setting up a 9.04 server and a bit confused on how Ubuntu handles multiple IPs on a single interface
[22:48] <mechtech_ny> losher: know how to uninstall gtk-gnutella?
[22:48] <macgyver_> is that the duplicity option?
[22:48] <losher> mechtech_ny: how did you install it in the first place?
[22:48] <revstray> I've seen the network interfaces example, but it doesn't appear to work.
[22:48] <mechtech_ny> losher: what is the current version of gnutella?
[22:48] <mechtech_ny> apt-get
[22:49] <losher> mechtech_ny: then uninstall using 'sudo apt-get remove ....'
[22:49] <mechtech_ny> losher: thanks
[22:49] <losher> mechtech_ny: current version of gnutella, no idea. Google it...
[22:50] <mattgyver> When cups restarts on my server I am getting the ** Restarting CUPS daemon ** text to appear in the login screen, anyone know how to fix this?
[22:51] <losher> MacGyver: http://www.mondorescue.org/about.shtml lets you make backups that you can restore to 'bare metal'....
[22:51] <erUSUL> revstray: the same as any other linux system you add a "virtual" interface. sudo ifconfig eth0:1 newipaddress netmask mynetmask up
[22:51] <manneequin> hello
[22:52] <macgyver_> Slart, the clone option is only for official installed apps yes?
[22:53] <Slart> macgyver_: yes, it only makes a list of the installed packages.. it will just be a text file
[22:53] <macgyver_> basically I have built an image for my small home office, and I would like to simply "clone" this installation
[22:53] <Slart> macgyver_: then use the partimage stuff
[22:53] <macgyver_> is there a way to make my own live CD version of my install?
[22:53] <erUSUL> macgyver_: or clonezilla
[22:53] <macgyver_> ok
[22:53] <mechtech_ny> losher: should I reboot before trying to re-install gtk-gnutella?
[22:53] <Slart> macgyver_: yes, there is software available that can do it.. I just can't remember what it's called
[22:54] <luke> heh. this is totally the channel I need now. I just set up ubuntu 10.4 and installed teh nvidia driver ver. 180, and the control panel told me to run "nvidia-xconfig" - when I did that X told me there was a validation error for the x.conf file (driver must contain an entry or something). I am kind of reluctant to actually restart my X server now....
[22:54] <ctmjr> macgyver_: or Reconstuctor if it is still around
[22:54] <losher> mechtech_ny: shouldn't need to reboot...
[22:54] <losher> !remaster | MacGyver
[22:55] <mechtech_ny> losher: k
[22:55] <Server_Side> chmod 777 is read and write acces to all users?
[22:56] <VirusTB> how do i edit my grub ?
[22:56] <mattgyver> 666 would be read write for everyone 777 will also give execute
[22:56] <papapep> Server_Side: yes, so you should be VERY restrictive assigning this rights
[22:56] <VirusTB> where is the grub file store3d ?
[22:56] <VirusTB> sudo ?
[22:56] <Server_Side> papapep: yes i want to give it access to just me
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> VirusTB:  the menu.lst file is in /boot/grub - BACK IT UP befor you edit it. and its best toread up on grub
[22:57] <papapep> Server_Side: but you don't need 777 for yourself
[22:57] <losher> Server_Side: see man chmod also
[22:57] <Server_Side> papapep: what would i need?
[22:57] <VirusTB> Dr_Willis:  i played with it before, i jsut want to extent the wait time (from 5 secs to 1min) dual bot pc
[22:57] <xamox> Anyone want to help me get my new harddrive configured correctly?  I just installed it, copied files over to it, put the other drive back in. I have it on the primary IDE cable as a slave drive. It is mounted to /media/sdb1 but I know this isn't correct because that is my primary (master) drive.  I can view the files, etc. But if manually try to mount it with mount /dev/sdb1 it mounts the master and not the slave.  I'm guessin
[22:57] <xamox> g udev is automounting it because if I just run mount it isn't listed. Any ideas?
[22:58] <papapep> if you are the computer admin, you got all you need with sudo
[22:58] <VirusTB> dr_ from terminal whats the exact thing i need to type to get my grub open?
[22:58] <losher> VirusTB: back it up anyway. The wait time is a one-line edit...
[22:58] <VirusTB> Dr_Willis:  from terminal whats the exact thing i need to type to get my grub open?
[22:58] <icerazor> good evening
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> VirusTB:  'sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[22:58] <VirusTB> Dr_Willis:  nano ? or gedit??
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> learn to use nano :)
[22:59] <icerazor> salut linuxien
[22:59] <mechtech_ny> losher: when using gnutella, is it supposed to be connected to: http://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.net?
[22:59] <icerazor> someone's here...????
[22:59] <myron> does anyone know how to change the background color of main menu?
[22:59] <VirusTB> Dr_Willis:  :D thanx doctor
[22:59] <papapep> Server_Side: I think taking a slow read to this would be helpful for you: http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[23:00] <papapep> Server_Side: more exactly, this: http://linuxcommand.org/lts0070.php
[23:01] <njovanov08> does anyone here have any knowledge of hardisc recovery
[23:01] <losher> mechtech_ny: I haven't used it in years, but I thought it was supposed to connect to other gnutella servers? And you need some way of finding the servers (some kind of master seed list?). Perhaps that's why it contacts that site? You need to do some reading on that site I think...
[23:01] <myron> njovanov08: for what file system?
[23:01] <njovanov08> IDE
[23:02] <glicks> hey is there a way i can play .m4p files in ubuntu?
[23:02] <njovanov08> I attached an old notebook hardisc hitachi
[23:02] <mechtech_ny> losher: ok...thanks
[23:02] <losher> njovanov08: want to tell us what happened, and maybe we can help?
[23:02] <njovanov08> to the usb
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> glicks:  vlc/mplayer with codecs should be able to play them
[23:02] <njovanov08> you couldnt boot from it
[23:02] <njovanov08> but now
[23:02] <njovanov08> i cant even read it
[23:02] <glicks> what codecs do i need for them?
[23:02] <myron> njovanov08: no, what filesystem is on the hard drive?
[23:02] <njovanov08> there is a clicking sound
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> !codecs
[23:02] <njovanov08> ntfs
[23:03] <myron> njovanov08: and you are running it under ubuntu correct?
[23:03] <phenom> I understand the update manager behavior was changed in Jaunty, does any one have any reasons or lit as to why it should be so, as I am not a fan of it.
[23:03] <phenom> I am thinking about setting it back as in previous distros.
[23:03] <njovanov08> i tried on windows xp and ubuntu
[23:03] <njovanov08> i have to computers with two OS
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> phenom:  ive not noticed any changes, whats differnt?
[23:03] <phenom> with this possibly: gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
[23:03] <njovanov08> two*
[23:04] <blackest_knight> totally offtopic but anyone know a quit smoking channel , I had a heart attack a week ago and stopped but i really want one now
[23:04] <myron> njovanov09: does your bios recognize it?
[23:04] <njovanov08> how do i check that
[23:04] <njovanov08> i put it into slave mode
[23:04] <blackest_knight> ac ig not another heart attack
[23:04] <b0nn> hrm I am trying to install a .deb using dpkg -i, but get "status database area is locked by another process", how do I find what that process is, and unlock it's grip on the db?
[23:04] <losher> blackest_knight: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic & good luck
[23:04] <erUSUL> b0nn: you have apt or synaptic or any other package manager open ?
[23:04] <blackest_knight> b0nn:  usually you have left synaptic running
[23:05] <b0nn> not that I can see
[23:05] <b0nn> and not in the process list neither
[23:05] <erUSUL> !dpkg
[23:05] <erUSUL> !search dpkg
[23:05] <erUSUL> !aptlock | b0nn
[23:05] <blackest_knight> losher:  thanks
[23:06] <ersin_> can anyone tell me some terminal apps
[23:06] <glicks> i installed vlc but it still doesnt play it
[23:06] <VirusTB>  Dr_Willis how do i hide optiong from the boot/grub
[23:06] <ersin_> mplayer
[23:06] <erUSUL> ersin_: to do what?
[23:06] <VirusTB>  its ## right Dr_Willis
[23:07] <ersin_> erUsul : good irc client or msn etc
[23:07] <erUSUL> ersin_: irc client --> irssi (the one i use)
[23:07] <b0nn> erUSUL: spot on, thanks
[23:07] <erUSUL> ersin_: for msn and the like there is biltbee that is controlled trhough and irc client ;)
[23:08] <erUSUL> !info biltbee
[23:08] <ersin_> ok im on irssi now' i like it
[23:08] <b0nn> says the lock was bought on by synaptic, even though I have never (literally) used it
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> VirusTB:  the msnu.lst is special. theres 'grub' options, then thers the ubuntu grub-config options. # denoted a grub option. ## is a grub-config option.
[23:08] <Server_Side> so what number do i use to stop 'other' from accessing file in chmod?
[23:09] <erUSUL> !info bitlbee | ersin_
[23:09] <erUSUL> b0nn: no problem
[23:09] <debac1e> how do I start firefox in safemode? (it crashes on start, so kinda hard to check the web for help too..)
[23:09] <ersin_> erUsul i am logging in to my terminal from Nokia phone'
[23:10] <ersin_> .
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> debac1e:  frirefox --help says --> firefox -safe-mode
[23:10] <debac1e> doh, thanks
[23:10] <ersin_> is it possible to open gui tools via ssh?
[23:10] <myron> does anyone know how to change the background color of main menu?
[23:10] <rootlinuxusr> 770?
[23:10] <papapep> ersin_: ssh -X user@server
[23:10] <ersin_> i use putty
[23:10] <oskar-> Server_Side:  the last cipher has to be 0
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> ersin_:  yes.  - if youa re runnign windows and putty, you will need to install 'xming' also  for a X server
[23:11] <ersin_> very cool
[23:12] <jhonny> I cant get higher resolution than 800x600 in ubuntu. Can anyone help me?
[23:12] <papapep> !help johnny
[23:12] <phenom> Dr_Willis, update-notifier only notifies you once a week about recommended updates.
[23:12] <phenom> vs, immediately as found by daily checks
[23:13] <myron> jhonny: its very complicated but it usually involves changing your xorg configuration
[23:13] <debac1e> phenom: can't you set it to daily instead, if you want?
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> phenom:  never really noticed.  I set it to auto-get most updates I recall.
[23:13] <myron> jhonny: I would search ubuntu forums as there are already some very good guides on doing this.
[23:13] <musikgoat|main> jhonny: do you know what video card you have?  likely your proper video card drivers aren't starting or are not installed
[23:13] <phenom> debac1e, Yes, but even if you do, it will still only notify you of recommended updates once a week.
[23:13] <phenom> Which is where I got massively confused
[23:13] <jhonny> myron:thanks. Ill look it up
[23:14] <musikgoat|main> jhonny: this info may also assist with troubleshooting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[23:14] <Server_Side> oskar-: i have changedthe owner of the file from root to my user and then right clicked selected properties and denied all others access, is this still an ok way to do it?
[23:14] <phenom> They changed the gconf key from /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch true,,, to false
[23:15] <papapep> Server_Side: nope. If it was root owned, sure it has to be so...
[23:15] <manneequin> whats wrong with this people ? registering shell by mail ?
[23:15] <oskar-> Server_Side:  that should result in the same
[23:16] <Server_Side> great thanks guys:)
[23:16] <macgyver_> Slart, I have created a ISO with UCK I will give that a whirl in qemu
[23:17] <zargonovski> night all
[23:17] <danobobano> solution to getting jack to connect to my soundblaster: Disable pulse audio server :P
[23:18] <windmill> I've just noticed that the trash directory has moved...   it used to be ~/.Trash where is it now?
[23:18] <musikgoat|main> !trash | windmill
[23:18] <padawan32> hello worderful world of linux
[23:19] <phenom> !update-notifier
[23:19] <phenom> why,, no you don't.
[23:20] <phenom> !updatenotifier
[23:20] <musikgoat|main> !msgthebot > phenom
[23:20] <macgyver_> Slart,  Fail :)
[23:20] <macgyver_> lol clearly I stuffed that up
[23:20] <windmill> thanks musikgoat|main, wonder why it changed...   it's causing a minor  problem for my backup scripts...  I've just backed up several GB of crap
[23:21] <musikgoat|main> windmill: not sure exactly, likely the gnome devs moved it to follow some sort of protocols
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> general cleaningup of all the dozens+ of .whatever_config type directory  it seems..
[23:21] <Server_Side> i could just get into #php and now it wont let me. i have just registered my nick too
[23:22] <musikgoat|main> Server_Side: i can get into ##php
[23:22] <musikgoat|main> Server_Side: been kicked?
[23:22] <musikgoat|main> whats the error
[23:22] <academy> Why is there no raid option in the partitioning screen on ubuntu?
[23:22] <Server_Side> musikgoat|main: i could just its asking me to regsiter my nick again!
[23:23] <academy> *ubuntu install
[23:23] <kitche> academy: there should be for the alternative
[23:23] <Kernel_n00b> Hi...
[23:23] <Kernel_n00b> Hmmm... where can I ask questions regarding Linux Kernel ? (Memory Swapping to be exact) ?
[23:23] <academy> kitche: ahh, ok
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> ##php proberly requires you to have an regiestered/identified nicnkame
[23:23] <Server_Side> musikgoat|main: no
[23:24] <Server_Side> Dr_Willis: yes i have just registered it
[23:24] <musikgoat|main> Server_Side: you may need to identify
[23:24] <Server_Side> hhow?
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> !identify
[23:25] <raar> /quote ns identify password
[23:25] <raar> (that ubottu response is not very useful)
[23:25] <musikgoat|main> raar: agreed
[23:25] <wdbl> I was playing around with my desktop Background and I accidentally removed one. How do I "cancel" or undo that? I only see a Close button no Apply/Cancel/OK
[23:25] <lakotajames> hey, guys.  Prolly gonna buy a laptop soon.  What's a good one under $500?
[23:25] <lakotajames> good as in, runs linux alright?
[23:26] <wdbl> lakotajames: look at Gizmodo.com, monitor their stories for the "deals" articles. They usually find good ones once or twice a week.
[23:26] <th0r> lakotajames: I have an acer extensa 4420....worked out of the box with jaunty
[23:26] <Kernel_n00b> Hi, Do you know where can I ask qewsutions regarding Linux's Kernel ?
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> lakotajames:  proberly dozens of them.  id be sure to get one with either intel, or nvidia video, Avoide atu
[23:26] <lakotajames> alright, thanks guys
[23:26] <GammaX> Anyone know why my laptop running kubuntu is gettin so hot it will freeze after hours of use? I cant figure it out
[23:26] <wdbl> Guys, what's the deal with no Cancel button on any of the settings dialogs? How do I undo settings if I screwed something up?
[23:27] <wdbl> I'm a newb
[23:27] <musikgoat|main> lakotajames: the bigest gripes are laptops with ati graphics and broadcom wireless, avoid those
[23:27] <fatface> is there a way to determine which type of sound card i have in my computer?
[23:27] <musikgoat|main> lakotajames: i'm partial to intel chipsets/wireless  but nvidia graphic
[23:27] <Talha> Yes.
[23:27] <Talha> Open your computer.
[23:27] <oskar-> fatface:  try lspci
[23:27] <musikgoat|main> fatface: check the output of lspci
[23:27] <Talha> Read the board.
[23:28] <fatface> I'd rather not open the computer
[23:28] <rootlinuxusr> wdbl: you can re-add them from... /usr/share/backgrounds
[23:28] <Talha> Then lspci. >.>
[23:28] <musikgoat|main> fatface: also sudo lshw   is a useful command, gives more info about your hardware
[23:29] <wdbl> rootlinuxusr: thx. but why didn't they put Cancel or Apply buttons on any of the dialogs? I find that to be very silly.
[23:29] <default_>  acad
[23:29] <rootlinuxusr> wdbl: I agree. No idea -shrug-
[23:29] <wdbl> rootlinuxusr: ok thx for your help!!
[23:29] <Lostinspace_46> My xmodmap is giving me some problems.  Some of it is due to permissions, and some of it is due to looking for files that don't exist.
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> wdbl:  gnome 'gui' type design - dosent use  apply, or cancle very much. :) thats windws thinking..
[23:30] <Talha> lshw requires root to be decent.
[23:30] <wdbl> Dr_Willis: "cancelling things" is windows thinking?
[23:30] <Talha> lspci | grep -i "audio"
[23:30] <Talha> ^
[23:30] <Talha> Winblows*
[23:30]  * Talha leaves
[23:30] <stillinbeta> Hello all. I have an FTP server bookmarked, but whenever I click on it from within the places menu it opens in firefox. Where can I change this back no nautilus?
[23:30] <Lostinspace_46> The error msgs are somewhat long, longer than I feel comfortabe pasting in here.
[23:30] <fatface> ok i think its 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[23:30] <rootlinuxusr> Thinking ahead that there will be errors - Windows thinking If I've ever heard it...
[23:30] <musikgoat|main> !paste | Lostinspace_46
[23:31] <wdbl> lol Thinking ahead...yeah that's a bad thing
[23:31] <UnholyLessons> Can someone help me install iTunes on Ubuntu. I am having lots of problems.
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> wdbl:  yes the idea of having 'cancle and apply'  in addation to 'ok' is windows desgign guidelines.. the GNOME guidelines are much different. thats why they are not there.
[23:31] <bonuxer_> hello
[23:31] <musikgoat|main> UnholyLessons: its not possible
[23:31] <fatface> how do I make sure alsa is working, the soundfont instrument in lmms and rosegarden and pmidi programs arent playing any sound
[23:31] <musikgoat|main> UnholyLessons: its not worth it
[23:31] <Marzipan> Can somebody tell me what this error means :P ?
[23:31] <Marzipan> Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load module "libcanberra-gtk-module.so": libcanberra-gtk-module.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[23:31] <UnholyLessons> Really? I see articles with people saying it works using Wine
[23:31] <Kernel_n00b> Is there anyone familier with the Kernel's Swapping device ?
[23:32] <UnholyLessons> So what app should I use to sync my iPhone from now on?
[23:32] <bonuxer_> anybody can help me? i'm new in irc chat with xchat :(
[23:32] <Kernel_n00b> I want to measure the time it takes to do Page-Fault
[23:32] <delicowa> @Unholy_;esson There are other media players that you can use SONGBIRD is a good choice
[23:32] <musikgoat|main> UnholyLessons: ok, maybe i was wrong, appdb says it can be done http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[23:32] <UnholyLessons> Will they be able to sync my iphone applications and so on?
[23:32] <h4f1> hi all. I have specific problem with sound. seems that I can't have many applications running sound at the same time. for Ex Rythmbox or skype or firefox flash etc
[23:32] <rootlinuxusr> What format do I need to name my album art for them to show up like in XP - folder.jpg/.png/.etc...
[23:32] <ianMac> hello, does anyone know if iTunes or comparable app is available for ppc xubuntu?
[23:33] <musikgoat|main> UnholyLessons: but there likely is bugs, and i would be careful as you want syncing capabilities
[23:33] <vlt> Hello. I'm using Ubuntu w/ Gnome for the first time. How can I browse the clipboard history?
[23:33] <wdbl> sounds like the GNOME guidelines were written by lazy programmers who didn't want to have to program Cancel functionality into every dialog. that's pretty lame.
[23:33] <musikgoat|main> rootlinuxusr: i believe gnome will parse every file and check for the preview capabilities as it supports them
[23:33] <Server_Side> desktop widget software?
[23:34] <delicowa> Unholy lessons try gtkpod or HIPO
[23:34] <UnholyLessons> what about games like WorldofWarcraft of Runes of Magic?
[23:34] <musikgoat|main> rootlinuxusr: *nautilus
[23:34] <h4f1>  hi all. I have specific problem with sound. seems that I can't have many applications running sound at the same time. for Ex Rythmbox or skype or firefox flash etc
[23:34] <rootlinuxusr> So no specific format as to what image names or formats?
[23:34] <musikgoat|main> !appdb | UnholyLessons
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> Server_Side:  care to mbe more specific?
[23:34] <Kernel_n00b> Can I Write
[23:34] <Server_Side> Dr_Willis: desktop widget application, g desklets is it?
[23:35] <musikgoat|main> rootlinuxusr: try changing one of your files to no extension, move it to a new directory and check if nautilus still shows it
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> Server_Side:  i know of at least 3 others...  google widgets, opera,   and a few more...
[23:35] <Kernel_n00b> Can I write two lines
[23:35] <Kernel_n00b> Instead of one ?
[23:35] <rootlinuxusr> Oh it still shows, but I'd like it to show as a preview before I even enter the folder.
[23:35] <ianMac> kernel: yes
[23:35] <Rapt0rJezuz> hey guys
[23:35] <h4f1> Kernel_n00b:
[23:35] <h4f1> may be
[23:35] <h4f1> .
[23:35] <wdbl> fuck this stupid OS. No cancelling is the stupidest thing I ever heard of. I was just trying it because it came with my netbook anyway.
[23:36] <rapt0rjezuz> I really need some help with my USB mouse
[23:36] <myron> is anyone familiar with gnomenu?
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> Wow.. giveing up because of a wallpaper settings dialog..... how cool.
[23:36] <rapt0rjezuz> My problem is that my USB mouse freezes, this is apparently a common bug in Ubuntu
[23:36] <rapt0rjezuz> so is there a fix?
[23:36] <yoyoned> !menu
[23:36] <musikgoat|main> wow, didn't know the lack of cancelling could really affect someone
[23:36] <rootlinuxusr> must be a mac-fag
[23:37] <rootlinuxusr> sorry, that was low...
[23:37] <olid> any ideas for a decent "gnome do" like app for kde ?
[23:37] <FloridaGuy> i installed ubuntu 9.04 with netinstall cd...did the advanced use install....gave root access....now i cant open package manager or anything.....Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root. The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator......but in terminal i can use su...password
[23:37] <rootlinuxusr> avant?
[23:37] <linxeh> wat was wbdl's prob ?
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> musikgoat|main:  most people never even notice  how gnome has things streamlined.. and i belive OS-X does the same sort of gui design.
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> linxeh:  wants somthing to be perfect.. as in 'exactly how he thinks things should be perfect' i guess
[23:38] <musikgoat|main> set in his ways
[23:38] <th0r> he was angry that linux lets him do what he wants
[23:38] <rapt0rjezuz> I really really need help with this USB mouse freeze bug... nobody knows how to fix this?
[23:38] <yoyoned> FloridaGuy: what do you mean gave root access?
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> linxeh:  point out that gnome has no 'settings' at all for the Screen saver.. and he would proberly burn his PC.
[23:38] <linxeh> I just read up - I think I agree with him - from a human factors perspsective both gnome and KDE are attrocious
[23:38] <linxeh> but who cares :-)
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> linxeh:  take it up with the gnome gui developers.. they are only human.
[23:38] <stefg> !info policykit | FloridaGuy
[23:39] <FloridaGuy> yoyoned, like mandriva ...fedora...suse...
[23:39] <linxeh> Dr_Willis: they don't want to know :)
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> linxeh:  ive seen similer isses with all os's i have ever used.
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> linxeh:  yep.  When in doubt 'take it out' is the gnome mantra
[23:39] <ianMac> is iTunes availabe for ppc xubuntu?
[23:39] <yoyoned> FloridaGuy: how did you enable root access
[23:40] <th0r>  Dr_Willis actually it isn't the OS at fault...I don't have those problems in xfce
[23:40] <FloridaGuy> yoyoned, the advanced user install on the netinstall cd asked if i wanted root
[23:40] <linxeh> Dr_Willis: as it should be - but too often thats not done in an aesthetic way.
[23:40] <VCoolio> in Midori, how to open a link that gets highlighted by inline search? (like with <enter> in firefox)
[23:40] <h4f1>  hi all. I have specific problem with sound. seems that I can't have many applications running sound at the same time. for Ex Rythmbox or skype or firefox flash etc
[23:40] <FloridaGuy> stefg, i dident get that
[23:40] <Rick> hello all
[23:40] <yoyoned> FloridaGuy: I didn't know that was there, so can you execute synaptic as root?
[23:40] <linxeh> ianMac: it isnt available for ubuntu at all (it has to be run via wine on x86*)
[23:40] <stefg> FloridaGuy: ubuntu is geared towards having no root password. root access for gui apps like synaptic is governed by polickit and policykit-gnome.
[23:40] <Rick> question
[23:40] <musikgoat|main> th0r: i doubt that user would have differenciated the desktop manager to the OS
[23:41] <Rick> how do I replace files in a kernel sourse
[23:41] <Rick> source*
[23:41] <lakotajames> th0r:  your lappy has broadcom wireless?  does it work alright?
[23:41] <VCoolio> olid: can't you use gnome-do in kde? check launchy or kupfer (the latter in development but leightweight and usable)
[23:41] <rootlinuxusr> What's the gui version of clamav?
[23:41] <FloridaGuy> yoyoned, i guess i had to install xchat that way
[23:41] <th0r> musikgoat|main: yeah, I agree with that. But the problems he had were all the fault of the desktop, and linux is the only os I know of that lets you change THAT
[23:42] <olid> VCoolio: thanks i will play with it
[23:42] <FloridaGuy> stefg, ok so what do i do here...to get normal control back
[23:42] <ianMac> :( so I can't sync my iPhone… is there an a comparable app for the iPhone?
[23:42] <funkyHat> Anyone got bluetooth working successfully on an Acer Aspire One (Jaunty)?
[23:42] <th0r> lakotajames: the broadcom worked out of the box, to my surprise. Also to my surprise the atheros external that I use didn't
[23:42] <Rick> anyone
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> 'problems because one does not know how to use the tools' are they really problems? :)
[23:42] <Rick> i got an intel wifi link 5100 agn
[23:42] <th0r> lakotajames: but it came right up when I installed ndiswrapper
[23:42] <stefg> FloridaGuy: install these packages, forget about root passwords on the Desktop
[23:42] <Rick> cant get it to read
[23:42] <Rick> only showing wired
[23:43] <musikgoat|main> ianMac: as long as its not a 3gs http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=16848
[23:43] <yoyoned> Ubuntu really doesn't like people with real root access.  if you cant run synaptic as a regular user the problem is likely sudo
[23:43] <th0r> lakotajames: the acer does have ati video...but since I am not into gaming it works well enough
[23:43] <yoyoned> !sudo:FloridaGuy:
[23:43] <musikgoat|main> ianMac: but someone earlier reported trouble getting it to work
[23:43] <stefg> !root | FloridaGuy
[23:43] <th0r> lakotajames: I can get compiz working...but don't want it. Use xfce and can get its compositor working...but don't use that either
[23:43] <ianMac> cool I'll try it out, thnx
[23:44] <Rick> can anyone help
[23:44] <Rick> i cant get backtrack 4 to read my wireless
[23:44] <lakotajames> oh, ok.  Thanks th0r.  I like teh games, though, so.  Probably won't get it
[23:44] <Rick> only my 5th day using linux
[23:44] <moymoy> th0r: is compositing all you want? you can use metacity as a compositor .. or you can use xcompmgr
[23:44] <th0r> lakotajames: if you want games you definitely should look for nvidia video
[23:45] <macgyver_> ok meeting time back later, thansk for the assisntance guys,
[23:45] <th0r> moymoy:  no...I dont use it....can get it in xfce if I want or gnome...but don't want to waste the resources
[23:45] <Xodiac13> how can i set up directx in wine
[23:45] <janisozaur> musikgoat|main: does wine work on ppc?
[23:45] <Rick> no one knows?
[23:45] <lakotajames> Alright.  thanks, th0r
[23:45] <musikgoat|main> janisozaur: not sure,  check in #winehq
[23:45] <yoyoned> !wireless|Rick
[23:46] <Xodiac13> i installed directx in wine but when i try to play my game it wont load up it doesnt do anything is there a way  i need to set it up
[23:46] <Rick> i got that
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> Ient backtrack some ubuntu variant?
[23:46] <Rick> what it comes down to in
[23:46] <paul_> hello
[23:46] <ctmjr> Rick: backtrack is not supported here ask in #remote-exploit channel
[23:46] <Rick> it says to download 3 files and replace them in my kernel
[23:46] <Rick> sorry
[23:46] <paul_> hello, I have a prob. running intrepid 8.10 and just did a update yesterday. Now whenever I suspend,do a screensaver lockout,I cannot log back in, ie my password will not work also now I don't have sound. In order to fix this I have to reboot.any clues?
[23:46] <Rick> thought it might be the sme
[23:47] <Rick> linux base
[23:47] <olid> not on topic but i had great luck with the experimental 3d on virtualbox
[23:47] <olid> good enough to run most stuff
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> Backtrack4 isent even ubuntu based.. its debian based.
[23:47] <Rick> says ubuntu
[23:47] <Rick> idk
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> wiki page here says Debian
[23:47] <Xodiac13> is there a way to set up directx on wine when i try to run a game it wont load up
[23:47] <Rick> like i said i dont use linux
[23:48] <th0r> paul_: you might try using the earlier version of the kernel...the latest kernel killed my internal wifi card
[23:48] <ctmjr> Rick: they like to keep it all ubuntu in here as you can see there are alot of people here
[23:48] <Rick> just trying to learn as of 5 days ago
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> Rick:  time to spend some time learning linux fundamentals i guess.  crawl, walk, run, FLY... :)
[23:48] <Rick> yup
[23:48] <yoyoned> Rick I don't want to seem rude, but you will get much better help in #remot-exploit
[23:48] <th0r> Rick: check the linux documentation project...tldp.org
[23:49] <william56> Xodiac13: #winehq
[23:49] <Rick> sorry trying to figure out how to change to there lol
[23:49] <Xodiac13> william56: okay
[23:49] <Dr_Willis>  /join #xhannelname Rick
[23:49] <MidasManchu> question: how can I limit a user to be able to only run one command and no others?
[23:49] <Server_Side> how do i start my sql?
[23:49] <yoyoned> !irc|Rick
[23:49] <iamherenow> disconnect
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> MidasManchu:  the bash shell has a 'restricted' mode (rbash) you can use to lock down a user VERY tightly.
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> MidasManchu:  depending on exactly what you want to do. that may or may not be what you need.
[23:50] <TannerS_Laptop> uys can someone help i can get 64 bit to install on my pc
[23:51] <MidasManchu> Dr_Willis, I'm creating an rsync backup account with an rsa pass file on my desktop.  Since that pass file has no password, I want to limit what my backup account can do to to just rsync
[23:51] <yoyoned> MidasManchu: change their path to only ~/bin and simlink the command the the bin directory in their home directory
[23:51] <rootlinuxusr> How do I change default fonts?
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> rootlinuxusr:  default fonts for what? The gnome settings tool has a 'fonts' setting  tool.
[23:52] <stefg> MidasManchu: you will still need a shell to run that... so that makes already 2 commands :-)
[23:52] <FloridaGuy> stefg, policykit and policykit-gnome....are already installed
[23:52] <rootlinuxusr> bah. duh huh. Found it. thanks.
[23:52] <TannerS_Laptop> can anyone help plz
[23:52] <MidasManchu> thanks, I'll give the suggestions a try
[23:52] <stefg> FloridaGuy: and gksudo as well ?
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> TannerS_Laptop:  tell the channel exactly what it is doing and not doiong.
[23:53] <william56> hey, i'm installing an old version of ubuntu (definitely needs a dist upgrade) on some pc, and i want to copy all the packages from this pc (latest version ubuntu stuff) to it and use them when upgrading. can anyone give me direction on doing this?
[23:53] <jeanrussou> when i ssh in and press the HOME key i get a tilde instead of the cursor going to the beginning of the line. CTRL+A works tho. how do i fix that?
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> jeanrussou:  using what program to ssh in?
[23:54] <TannerS_Laptop> Dr_Willis trying to install ubuntu 64 bit, but getting tons and tons of lines of read errors, im pretty sure my pc supports 64 bit i mean i have a 64 bit cpu
[23:54] <Gualem_> lem
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> jeanrussou:  what 'terminal' program.  console? xterm, gnome-terminal? Putty?
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> TannerS_Laptop:  read errors - sounds like a badly burnt cd to me. I tend to make bootable usbflash disks to install from these days.
[23:55] <stefg> william56: look in /var/cache/apt/archives
[23:55] <TannerS_Laptop> Dr_willis im almost 99.9 sure its not the cd, it was ran slow and got verified and loads up, but during install 64 bit wont work but 32 does
[23:55] <william56> stefg: will copying them from the updated computer to the other one and then running apt-get upgrade work?
[23:55] <jeanrussou> Dr_Willis: i am using urxvt, but fyi it doesn't happen always only on some servers i ssh into. echo $TERM = 'xterm'
[23:55] <FloridaGuy> stefg, you mean gksu
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> TannerS_Laptop:  you DO have a 64bit cpu?
[23:56] <rootlinuxusr> william56: I think that with --no-download ?
[23:56] <olid> TannerS_Laptop: what cpu do you have?
[23:56] <mariusz> elo
[23:56] <TannerS_Laptop> AMD athlon 64 bit x2 3800+
[23:56] <stefg> william56: mostly ... there might be some meta- and transitional packages, but whatever is already in the cache won't be d/l'd again
[23:56] <olid> TannerS_Laptop: you sure you are using the 64bit iso?
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> jeanrussou:  yea sounds like a TERM setting thats not correct.   could try  vt100, or you could try 'screen' on the machines. that seems to fix many 'quirks'  for me.
[23:57] <william56> cool. thanks, stefg and rootlinuxusr
[23:57] <TannerS_Laptop> olid possitive just downloaded and burned it off site
[23:57] <Lostinspace_46> musikgoat | main  I have put the error file in pastebin, thanks for the tip, it was most helpful. If anyone here has their xmodmap working, I can sure use some help
[23:57] <mariusz> czy ktos mowi tu po polsku?
[23:57] <h4f1>  I have specific problem with sound. seems that I can't have many applications running sound at the same time. for Ex Rythmbox or skype or firefox flash etc
[23:57] <olid> TannerS_Laptop: you should reboot and do a media check just for kicks
[23:57] <civixier> Okay, I'm stuck. I try to install pygtk2.8.6, but I dont get how to compile it. "./configure --prefix=<bin/python>" gives "bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'"
[23:58] <TannerS_Laptop> olid how do i do that
[23:58] <funkyHat> Anyone got bluetooth working successfully on an Acer Aspire One (Jaunty)?
[23:58] <Lostinspace_46> xmodmap is complaing about permissions, and not finding files.
[23:58] <th0r> h4f1: install either pulse audio or esound
[23:58] <neohashi> hmm did a driver update on 9.04 using nvidias installer 185.x and now I get this error: Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.. what should I do.
[23:58] <olid> TannerS_Laptop: its an option at boot time, i think it says "check media for consistancy"
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> civixier:  you dont use <bin/python> you give it a path to 'install to' like /usr/local
[23:58] <h4f1>  th0r what's best
[23:59] <th0r> h4f1: I like esound, but pulse is apparently the wave of the future
[23:59] <FloridaGuy> stefg, i can find gksu in repo...no gksudo
[23:59] <TannerS_Laptop> olid, ill try it, but fist need to restore grub, my pc reinstaled windows over writting it ut trying out the 64 bit cd gves me errors lol
[23:59] <Lostinspace_46> The thing is, it's asking for permissionns on files that aren't there
[23:59] <h4f1> th0r:  I don't even know what I am using. I know that I am using alsa
[23:59] <Lostinspace_46> oh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/234129/ is the pastebin URL
[23:59] <th0r> h4f1: I don't think pulse installs by default. Check and see...if pulse is not installed yet, install esound...it is the easy way to go


[22:02] <jose> pleia2: should I post cprofitt's email on the fridge?
[22:02] <jose> I'm all ready to do that
[22:03] <pleia2> jose: yeah, but in the citation don't put his name, just say "Community Council" instead
[22:03] <jose> ok!
[22:06] <jose> done :)
[22:40] <pleia2> PaulW2U: wow, quite the news week
[22:41] <PaulW2U> it's looking good :)
[22:41] <pleia2> yeah :)
[23:42] <jose> pleia2: any idea on why the fridge post is not still on the planet? would it be worthwhile to ping IS?
[23:44] <pleia2> jose: it always takes forever
[23:44] <pleia2> jose: IS knows, jono knows, it's the caching on on blogs (xubuntu posts do it too)
[23:45] <jose> hmm, ok then


[10:47] <HanSolo> Hello guys
[10:47] <HanSolo> what is the best way to add my elastic ip in /etc/hosts with cloud-init please
[10:58] <HanSolo> ?
[13:05] <smoser> HanSolo, theres nothing that can do thta for you. :-(
[13:42] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Thanks for the merge yesterday. :)
[13:43] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Here's another little one: https://code.launchpad.net/~daniel-thewatkins/cloud-init/lp-1311463/+merge/253362 :)
[13:43] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, ok. thank yo ufor writing tests.
[13:45] <Odd_Bloke> :)
[14:38] <HanSolo> smoser: I have to use this (ugly) kind of workaround then ? http://ternarylabs.com/2010/09/15/automatically-configure-hostname-for-new-ec2-instances/
[14:39] <HanSolo> I know this is beyond scope of cloud-init sorry for asking :/
[14:39] <smoser> HanSolo, its not really beyond the scope.
[14:39] <smoser> i'd like to have a solution for you
[14:41] <HanSolo> thank you smoser, this is still a great product
[17:59] <harmw> harlowja_: ever seen this with kvm? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1202990
[18:00] <harlowja_> harmw don't think i've seen that
[18:00] <harlowja_> but we don't run on fedora, so thats maybe why
[18:00] <harmw> ah, well, CentOS 7 showed the same
[18:01] <harlowja_> ah
[18:01] <harlowja_> haven't seen that
[18:01] <harmw> are you aware of certain ovs specifics one should be setting?
[18:01] <harlowja_> not off the top of my head
[18:01] <harmw> i'm using an mtu of 1400 here btw, for what its worth
[18:14] <harlowja_> harmw if u jump on #openstack-operators u may find some folks there that have some idea
[18:14] <harmw> oh sure, thanks
[18:14] <harlowja_> np
[18:14] <harlowja_> someone there might of seen this
[18:14] <harmw> I'm gonna try if I can get some results from -not- running through nova
[18:14] <harlowja_> k
[18:15] <harmw> eg, dropping a lot of the extra kvm parameters
[18:15] <harlowja_> ya, maybe u'll figure it out
[18:30] <harmw> probably not though :P
[18:36] <harlowja_> lol
[19:26] <stupidnic> Could somebody help me troubleshoot a long period on cloud-init modules:config
[19:29] <stupidnic> I run cloud-init on a centos6 image and it get's an IP address quickly but then it just sits there for a long duration before completing
[19:29] <stupidnic> http://pastebin.com/XkwiUxsN
[19:29] <stupidnic> that's what the logs show
[23:26] <smoser> stupidnic, i suspect /var/log/cloud-init.log has some WARN in it.
[23:26] <smoser> can you paste that ?
[23:27] <stupidnic> smoser: it does not
[23:27] <smoser> hm..
[23:27] <stupidnic> let me jump into that server again
[23:27] <smoser> its poling something.
[23:27] <stupidnic> that was my thought too
[23:27] <stupidnic> seemed like a timeout or something
[23:28] <stupidnic> cloud-init.log is zero length
[23:28] <stupidnic> I can show the entire cloud-init-output.log if you like
[23:30] <stupidnic> http://pastebin.com/gimfKReE
[23:30] <stupidnic> nothing much really
[23:30] <stupidnic> there is just that huge 500+ second delay between the ci-info output and the modules:config run
[23:31] <stupidnic> I can clone the base image and turn on more debugging, I just don't know how to do that actually
[23:35] <smoser> stupidnic, the log is getting swallowed somewhere.
[23:35] <smoser> oh.. syslog.
[23:35] <smoser> try looking in /var/log/syslog or wherever syslog messages would go.
[23:35] <smoser> grep -r "cloud" /var/log
[23:36] <stupidnic> coming up empty
[23:36] <stupidnic> well not empty empty
[23:36] <stupidnic> but nothing new
[23:36] <smoser> odd. well, anything important here ?
[23:37] <smoser> ie, do you care particularly about the instance
[23:37] <smoser> 2 things to try
[23:37] <smoser> a.) edit /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/05_logging*
[23:37] <stupidnic> It's a customer instance
[23:37] <smoser>  then yes, yes you do :)
[23:37] <smoser> reproduce somewhere else ?
[23:37] <stupidnic> but I can dump the base image out of glance
[23:37] <stupidnic> and then fiddle with that
[23:38] <stupidnic> and the put it back into glance and use it as a base for testing instances
[23:38] <smoser> oh. can you see the console log of the instance ?
[23:38] <smoser> nova console-log ...
[23:38] <stupidnic> Yeah it's more of the same sadly
[23:38] <smoser> that may have WARN on it too
[23:38] <stupidnic> the original pastebin was taking from that
[23:39] <smoser> well, debug messages woudl be useful.
[23:40] <smoser> so that 05_logging.cfg
[23:40] <smoser> just comment otu:
[23:40] <smoser>   - [ *log_base, *log_syslog ]
[23:40] <smoser> that line.
[23:40] <smoser> and then it should log directly to the file
[23:40] <stupidnic> k
[23:40] <stupidnic> let me dump the image and get that taken care of
[23:45] <stupidnic> smoser: okay... what should I be commenting out here? just the stuff under log_cfgs: section?
[23:46] <smoser> just that line.
[23:47] <stupidnic> alright, done... let me load the image back into glance and spin up an instance
[23:52] <stupidnic> well of course... it didn't do it this time
[23:52] <stupidnic> cloud-init took 22 seconds from start to finish
[23:52] <smoser> do you see log too ?
[23:53] <stupidnic> yes
[23:53] <stupidnic> the cloud-init.log is over 140KB in size
[23:54] <stupidnic> About the only difference this time was the size of the instance and the tenant
[23:54] <stupidnic> client instance was 1TB this was only 10GB
[23:55] <stupidnic> possible that the size difference was the delay?
[23:55] <smoser> oh. well, was it the first boot ?
[23:55] <stupidnic> Yes
[23:56] <smoser> yeah. cloud-init resizes the disk
[23:56] <smoser> and on an older kernel, that is very slow.
[23:56] <stupidnic> I thought that occurred in the init ramdisk
[23:56] <smoser> on older kernels, it will rewrite the partition table in the ramdisk
[23:56] <stupidnic> at least in Centos 6
[23:56] <stupidnic> right
[23:57] <smoser> (on newer ones it does that in cloud-init too)
[23:57] <stupidnic> yeah this is a centos 6 image
[23:57] <stupidnic> so 2.6.32 kernel
[23:57] <smoser>  < 3.2 kernel is stupid slow resizing.
[23:57] <smoser> i tihnk its actually 3.10 that is , not kidding, 1000x faster.
[23:58] <stupidnic> hmmm... might be worth going with the centos lt kernels then
[23:58] <stupidnic> Something to consider. I don't want to fragment my images too much though
[23:58] <smoser> is not really taht simple (its hiding some of the operations i think) but, a 'resize2fs from 2G -> 1TB' will be probalby 1000x faster on nwere kernel.
[23:58] <stupidnic> last thing I need is to support five variants of each OS
[23:58] <smoser> yeah. i'd probalby live with it.
[23:59] <stupidnic> Let me try a larger instance and see what it does
[23:59] <stupidnic> I have SAN to burn ;)
[23:59] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1179610


[17:45] <pleia2> nhandler: the last LTS party had about 40-50, we finished 11 pizzas
[17:45] <nhandler> pleia2: But didn't you say that was with jono's help in publicizing?
[17:45] <pleia2> nhandler: so I built in a drop in attendance already
[17:46] <nhandler> Ok, I'll pass it on to our event people :)
[17:46] <pleia2> nhandler: well, I'm hoping that since he works in the city again he can do so again :)
[17:46] <pleia2> thank you


[23:17] <echosa> proq: but I got it fixed with apt-get --reinstall (aptitude wasn't giving any errors, and looked like it was installing fine, but really wasn't doing anything)
[23:17] <Jezz`> oh so i should stick to the ubuntu default then
[23:17] <Aval0n> Adapter: ISA adapter
[23:17] <Aval0n> Core 0: +54.0°C
[23:17] <Jezz`> but its killing my eyes
[23:17] <s3a> i did sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome and now i dont no how to go to another channel (i want to go to #chemistry)
[23:17] <Aval0n> that my cpu temp atm?
[23:17] <nubbie_> Jezz`: read the specs on your display and video card and stay within those boundaries.
[23:18] <Jezz`> eh
[23:18] <cosmodad> my laptop occasionally freezes when I try to play a video after returning from suspend-to-RAM. Anyone know how to fix this? (I'm using the intel i810 video driver)
[23:18] <Jezz`> where can i find that?
[23:18] <soundray> Jezz`: only very old hardware can get damaged that way (~15 years or more)
[23:18] <ricanelite> well i think and hopefully got it the audacity that is already on the package manager is 1.3 which is still in beta form so I went over to audacity website and downloaded 1.2 and so far it is working just like on windows
[23:18] <Jezz`> i have a 8600gt and a lacie electron 22
[23:18] <proq> Aval0n: it depends. compare against your BIOS to be certain
[23:18] <proq> Aval0n: but probably, yes
[23:18] <s3a> Aval0n: how did u check ur cpu temp, i need to no bcuz mine shuts down from overheating from my last install
[23:18] <Christian> I apologize to the channel if I was rude.
[23:18] <nubbie_> !patience | cosmodad
[23:18] <Aval0n> s3a lm-sensors
[23:18] <fserve_> e abre denovo : (
[23:19] <steego> hi, can anyone offer some advice on getting my second usb mouse working? i'm using /dev/input/mice but only one works..
[23:19] <steego> i have both /dev/input/mouse0 and mouse1 in the folder, but when I cat them only one shows any output when moving the mouse
[23:19] <steego> also, dmesg shows the other mouse when I connect it
[23:19] <leveeathan> Hi I need help with something odd.... and I've looked eveyrwhere on ubuntu forums and the fix doesnt help me. I get really poor speeds and problems connecting to the ubuntu repository sites out of nowhere.. using gutsy and hardy.. both having a problem.. I tried removing the .us prefix like it seems to have worked for the rest of the planet and no go...
[23:19] <Jezz`> but why does ubuntu monitor resolution setting limits the refresh rate then?
[23:19] <s3a> Aval0n: if thats a command it doesnt work...its lm-sensors isnt it?
[23:19] <dxdt> sukuri: no I am pretty sure none exist.  Otherwise it would have just worked out of the box without you having to install the codec.  Also, I think this is the reason .ogg was maybe invented
[23:19] <Aval0n> CPU Temp: +37.0°C
[23:19] <soundray> Christian: whatever. It's worth having a go with hardy if that spindown/up problem was preventing you from using earlier versions.
[23:19] <echosa> Lesson learned: if aptitude pretends to install, but your system doesn't change (i.e. no files are actually installed anywhere), try an apt-get --reinstall on the program.
[23:19] <Jezz`> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76387 is this safe to try?
[23:19] <Aval0n> I bet CPU Temp: +37.0°C is my cpu temp :P
[23:19] <proq> leveeathan: try a mirror that is close to you. if it's too slow, try a different one
[23:19] <doug_> html_devilx:  do any those help you?
[23:19] <mindframe-> what do i need to do to be able to disable wireless through the network manager?
[23:19] <Jezz`> look at **
[23:20] <leveeathan> proq: thanks, is there a place where I can get the listings of repositories for every country?
[23:20] <leveeathan> or something like that
[23:20] <nubbie_> dxdt: ogg was invented to be free of patents.
[23:20] <proq> !mirrors
[23:20] <Aval0n> you install lm-sensors then run sensors.. and you can have it try to probe for what sensors there are s3m
[23:20]  * leveeathan will try nl. :D haha
[23:20] <dxdt> nubbie_: yeah I figured as much
[23:20] <Aval0n> then you add them to /etc/modules and modprobe them
[23:20] <html_devilx> well im trying this one --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282999
[23:20] <Christian> soundray: Nah. My main issue with Ubuntu was with all the difficulty getting connected to the internet through a wireless connection.  I had to use ndiswrapper for all my drivers. Then I had to write a connect script and load it into rc.local.  I just tried 8.04 on a live cd...the same problems still exist.
[23:21] <sukuri> dxdt: So that would mean I have illegal software on my computer, now that I've downloaded an mp3 codec...?
[23:21] <Christian> soundray, But I know, drivers aren't ubuntus problem.
[23:21] <nubbie_> Christian: why are you using rc?
[23:21] <doug_> html_devilx:  ah cool and sorry none of mine worked for you.
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Christian $20 for a new wireless card that is supported in ubuntu/linux would not be a bad investment
[23:21] <Christian> nubbie_, I am a newbie and thats all I knew how to do.
[23:22] <html_devilx> well i think this one might work brb im gonna logout and test it
[23:22] <Christian> nubbie_, it worked fine though.
[23:22] <proq> Christian: ndiswrapper is easy. if you're working with those scripts, then do you really have a problem?
[23:22] <Christian> Jack_Sparrow, I guess that could work. I am on a laptop.
[23:22] <mindframe-> kc, newb
[23:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Christian mini-pci, pcmcia or usb.. there are options
[23:22] <grout> any way to edit the extra visual effects to give more eye candy or do i gotta install compiz fusion?
[23:22] <Christian> Jack_Sparrow, They actually make USB wireless cards?
[23:23] <nubbie_> Christian: dongles.
[23:23] <Christian> Jack_Sparrow, I guess I have been in a cave.
[23:23] <Christian> heh.
[23:23] <doug_> sukuri: no you do not have ilegal software.
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Christian yep.. some call them a dongle
[23:23] <Christian> Interesting.
[23:23] <Christian> I shall look them up.
[23:23] <nubbie_> Christian: you can install them internally too, if you have a tower case.
[23:23] <sukuri> doug_: sweet, okay *reading up on it* it seems like a lot of people are claiming to own it
[23:23] <leveeathan> wow.. I'm in Canada, tried prefixes ca. and us. no go... replace with nl. and vrooooooom
[23:23] <Christian> nubbie_, All I have is a dell inspiron laptop.
[23:23] <soundray> Christian: if you want an internal (miniPCI) one, I'd recommend an Intel 2200BG. Tried and tested
[23:24] <musix> wow 1397 waiting !!
[23:24] <nubbie_> the ubuntu live cd (and all ubuntu derivative livecds) fail to boot due to a fault expanding the squashfs. the iso files are not the culprit, and i have tried many times, it is not my burner. I tested this with a program called unetbootin, which adds a livecd to the hard drive and adds a grub option. when booted from the harddrive the cd boots without fault. can somebody please help me figure this out?
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Christian I have three dells all with broadcom bcm43xx that all wnet super easy
[23:24] <proq> leveeathan: some mirrors run slower than others
[23:24] <Yan3> Hi, I want to "link"/mount media/disk to media/cdrom.
[23:24] <doug_> sukuri: i have not found any ilegal software yet for ubuntu. other then torrents of ms software and movies and games
[23:24] <leveeathan> proq: there's slower and continiously stalling
[23:25] <alfonso> hola?
[23:25] <doug_> sukuri: but that can be downloaded with any os rly
[23:25] <leveeathan> It's weird I have a fesity install also and it doesn't have the problems, uses ca.
[23:25] <leveeathan> feisty*
[23:25] <Christian> Jack_Sparrow, Yes, If I use the wired connection it is super easy. However, using the wireless card is the nightmare. I have no trouble with plugging the dsl cable into the slot.
[23:25] <alfonso> how can i go to the server in spanish?
[23:25] <zyx386> i install pyvnc2swf correct, but i did't finde the program in my pc??
[23:25] <steph291> same problem here with ca mirrors, slow
[23:25] <nubbie_> !es | alfonso
[23:25] <soundray> alfonso: /join #ubuntu-es
[23:26] <doug_> leveeathan: how is feisty doing? my first open source distro was her. she was very good to me in alot of ways lol. now i have moved to hardy.
[23:26] <leveeathan> Christian: is that a HP laptop you're talking about? If it's a broadcom chipset you'll need to use ndiswrapper and make sure the usb modules dont load prior to ndiswrapper at boot
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Christian Once I did direct connect and my updates I was able to enable the drivers for wireless and worked the first time on all three
[23:26] <nubbie_> hardy has been nothing but headaches for me.
[23:26] <zyx386> can everyone tell me
[23:26] <zyx386> ?
[23:26] <leveeathan> doug_: seriously I don't see a reason to upgrade ;>
[23:26] <Christian> Jack_Sparrow, Okay. Thats good advice.
[23:27] <proq> hardy works very well for me
[23:27] <Christian> Jack_Sparrow, you did this with 8.04 or earlier versions?
[23:27] <s3a> were on the gnome ubuntu calculator do i press to simplify fractions?
[23:27] <Christian> Jack_Sparrow, I tried with 7.04 and I had no luck with that.
[23:27] <doug_> leveeathan: yes and i ran feisty back in 07 then i moved got me a new comp and got gutsy then upgraded to hardy.
[23:27] <leveeathan> proq: me too, i've got gutsy, feisty and hardy on different machines and they all work well
[23:27] <doug_> nubbie_: i rly have not had many hard troubles with hardy
[23:27] <nubbie_> with hardy, i have problems with EC_TIMEOUTS booting, i can't boot livecds because the SQUASHFS I/O errors, among many other minor headaches.
[23:27] <Christian> I have to say looking at the desktop image, hardy heron is interesting.
[23:27] <Christian> heh.
[23:28] <Jack_Sparrow> 8.04
[23:28] <azexian> does anyone know how well a pci sata card (with quite an old mobo) would work in ubuntu? e.g, what interface name, and can i boot from it, this is probably more hardware related then os, but i want to make sure it's compatible
[23:28] <Christian> Jack_Sparrow, Ah Okay.
[23:28] <nubbie_> doug_: i need to unplug my laptop when i turn it on just to get past GRUB.
[23:28] <leveeathan> Christian: I'd be interested to know what you guys are talking about with the bcm based wlan cards, I struggled so much with mine
[23:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Christian earlier versions I used fwcutter
[23:28] <nubbie_> doug_: and i am by no means an amateur linux user.
[23:28] <doug_> nubbie_:  lol ouch thats a bad bug very bad.
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> leveeathan the 43xx and 943xx ave all together different...
[23:29] <dangerdave> in Ubuntu, what's the command-line equivalent of "open" on OSX or "start" on Windows?
[23:29] <leveeathan> Jack_Sparrow: meaning the ndiswrapper method doesn't work?
[23:29] <nubbie_> doug_: no kidding, and i had absolutely zero problems with gutsy. all of a sudden hardy is not working with my laptop.
[23:29] <mindframe-> what do i need to do to be able to disable wireless through the network manager?
[23:29] <Christian> Lets say I purchase an old computer, and I want to put an earlier version of ubuntu on it due to hardware requirements, ... Can you still download the earlier versions of ubuntu?
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> leveeathan do you have 943xx?
[23:29] <nubbie_> dangerdave: you just type the name of the program...
[23:29] <sharperguy> any reason why sometimes (like at the moment) when you receive a kernel update the packages for some kernel modules don't get updated with it (talking about virtualbox-ose-modules - only has it for the '-16 kernel, but we are now on '-17)
[23:29] <proq> dangerdave: nautilus .
[23:29] <soundray> dangerdave: gnome-open
[23:29] <leveeathan> Jack_Sparrow: hold on I'll check the exact chipset
[23:29] <dangerdave> thanks
[23:30] <nubbie_> Christian: yes, absolutely.
[23:30] <LadyNikon> Christian: you could try a new version than just put a light winmanager .. if you want
[23:30] <s3a> Christian: not that i checked but torrents maybe still exist?
[23:30] <Christian> nubbie_, Where are they located?
[23:30] <nubbie_> Christian: they are all mirrored and hosted still.
[23:30] <crashanddie> jrib, yeah it's on the java website, thanks, cheers
[23:30] <LadyNikon> anyone know how to kill X so that i can install an nvidia driver?
[23:30] <doug_> nubbie_:  have u just thought of burning the hardy iso and do a clean install? or go back to gutsy?
[23:30] <luca> Salve, qualcuno sa come entrare nel canale italiano ubuntu?
[23:30] <JASONCO> hey guys -- im running hardy - ive been using the nvidia hardware driver at 1024x768 quite nicely -- i just applied a batch of updates and now im stuck at 640x480  how do i get back to my good screen size?
[23:30] <soundray> !it | luca
[23:30] <Y-Town> I am tryijng to get the talkd daemon to work on one of my laptop...I have typed talkd in a terminal but doesnt seem to work...What can I do to get it to work?
[23:30] <LadyNikon> JASONCO: good luck.. thats my problem
[23:31] <ruggy> LadyNikon: you can execute the command "init 3" as root
[23:31] <Christian> Here is the next question. Whats going to happen when Z is reached with the version updates? Back to A? hehe.
[23:31] <doug_> LadyNikon: i to have nvidia i used envy to install the drivers.
[23:31] <LadyNikon> ruggy: thanks
[23:31] <s3a> does any1 no how or were i can find out how to simplify fractions using the scientific calculator installed in ubuntu?
[23:31] <LadyNikon> doug_: whats taht?
[23:31] <ruggy> you're welcome
[23:31] <dangerdave> gnome-open was the one i was looking for. thanks.
[23:31] <nubbie_> doug_: that's what i've done, and i don't much feel like reverting. i'm trying to get linuxmint installed right now, but it suffers the same issues as ubuntu when booting livecds failing to expand the squashfs.
[23:31] <azexian> anyone? need to know about using a pci sata card in ubuntu, will it work?
[23:31] <nubbie_> s3a: google could probably do it :)
[23:31] <doug_> LadyNikon: go to ur synaptic manager and type envy and hit apply it will install a program for you to install your nvidia
[23:31] <leveeathan> Jack_Sparrow: haha yeah thats the exact one ;>
[23:32] <JASONCO> LadyNikon, i had it happen once before - someone gave me a way to essentially have xorg rescan
[23:32] <ruggy> anybody know how I can hear my own microphone via my headphones, but I can't record my voice in audacity, or hear my voice tests in skype?
[23:32] <doug_> LadyNikon: if your talking about the vid driver that is.
[23:32] <JASONCO> i just cant remember what it was
[23:32] <Lempface> anyone used gphoto2?
[23:32] <leveeathan> Jack_Sparrow: works like a charm on hardy, using ndiswrapper
[23:32] <LadyNikon> i am just gonna reinstall
[23:32] <LadyNikon> some other weird stuff ins going on :/
[23:32] <Y-Town> anyone know how to get the talkd daemon to work?
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> leveeathan   Here is a howto I used on a 943xx and gutsy  http://invaleed.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/install-bcm94311mcg-wlan-mini-pci-ubuntu-710/     and   one   other   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=607378
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> leveeathan correct
[23:32] <Tetrohead> Kill X w/ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop      This will also shutdown GNOME (or KDE)
[23:32] <Lempface> i'm trying to use --capture-image and -F 3 -I 5 but not sure how to run it
[23:33] <leveeathan> Jack_Sparrow: is it working fine or are you having problems here?
[23:33] <leveeathan> or is Christian
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> leveeathan Mine is fine..
[23:33] <leveeathan> ok :)
[23:33] <Lempface> gphoto2 --capture-image--F 3 -I 5 doesn't work
[23:33] <Christian> leveeathan, I was the one having problems.
[23:33] <leveeathan> by was meaning it's fixed?
[23:33] <Christian> leveeathan, Yes, I fixed it. But I switched back to winxp because of the troubles I was encountering.
[23:34] <nubbie_> Lempface: why not use video4linux?
[23:34] <nubbie_> Lempface: what exactly are you trying to do?
[23:34] <doug_> LadyNikon:  if you need help installing your nvidia drivers feel free to see me when your done. installing
[23:34] <Lempface> im using it to remote capture from a digital camera
[23:34] <leveeathan> Christian: that's too bad :( My parent's laptop with that card is an HP laptop.. no XP drivers... hence why I got them sued to Ubuntu
[23:34] <leveeathan> used*
[23:34] <leveeathan> I suspect yours a Dell?
[23:34] <Christian> leveeathan, Yes.
[23:35] <doug_> leveeathan: no xp drivers for?
[23:35] <leveeathan> doug_: some HP laptop
[23:35] <Reichel> hi
[23:35] <Reichel> !es
[23:35] <Christian> Hewlitt Packward sucks don it?
[23:35] <doug_> leveeathan: no i got that but what was the driver for?
[23:35] <LadyNikon> doug_: thnx
[23:35] <leveeathan> doug_: at least 4,5 things, like the NVIDIA onboard chip, the lan, the sound, ... only the wlan was working almost
[23:35] <doug_> LadyNikon: yw
[23:36] <Lempface> i think my usage string is just wrong
[23:36] <dushich> #ubuntu-ru
[23:36] <rainwalker> how do I see all the errors from a progam? firefox repeatedly becomes unresponsive and I can't figure out why (I tried running it from a terminal as well)
[23:36] <Christian> I was actually thinking about purchasing a dell with ubuntu presintalled.
[23:36] <doug_> leveeathan:  when you went to the hp site did you chat to a live tech person?
[23:36] <nubbie_> Lempface: can you answer my question please? what are you trying to accomplish?
[23:36] <leveeathan> Christian: yeah I saw those just yesterday, pretty awesome heh
[23:36] <nubbie_> Lempface: are you trying to capture a frame from a webcam?
[23:36] <doug_> leveeathan:  i had a real hard time finding xp drivers for my machine that is built for vista. but they helped me get the drivers.
[23:36] <Creationist> I just installed Hardy today and am trying to migrate my Firefox2 settings (I removed Firefox 3 because it wasn't compatible with any extensions).  All of my bookmarks show up in the new FF2, but none of my extensions work.  They're listed as being installed, but they aren't usable and I can't uninstall them either.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[23:37] <ccaic_> hi ,all
[23:37] <leveeathan> doug_: no I didn't. My cousin had to do it for a deffective dvd drive. His painful experience doesn't attract me one bit. Ubuntu it is :)
[23:37] <babolat> hello
[23:37] <Lempface> no nubbie, i said i was trying to capture from a digital camera
[23:37] <Lempface> canon a95 to be precises
[23:37] <Lempface> i figured it out though, the frame number/interval args must be submitted first
[23:37] <nubbie_> Creationist: you see, firefox 3 evolved from firefox 2, and isn't compatible any more.
[23:37] <komputes> Creationist: you need to purge your settings, one sec I have the instructions
[23:38] <Creationist> komputes: What I've done is totally removed my ~/.mozilla/ and copied it from my backup.
[23:39] <leveeathan> doug_: wow. good to know, thanks
[23:39] <soundray> rainwalker: you could try strace firefox, but that's unwieldy. I'd go through the plugins first and see if there are conflicts (typical is gnash <-> Adobe Flash)
[23:39] <Ziroday> rainwalker: run firefox -jsconsole to start firefox with an error console
[23:39] <komputes> Creationist: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/211069/comments/6
[23:39] <Aruza> quick question guys
[23:39] <komputes> Creationist: this worked for me, all my extentions work, i completely removed FF3 while in beta
[23:39] <rainwalker> soundray: it just started happening today, and I don't use gnash
[23:39] <Aruza> i boot into ubuntu and i get to the Busybox shell
[23:39] <Ziroday> rainwalker: you may also want to try firefox -safe-mode -jsconsole and see if that improves your stability
[23:39] <rainwalker> thanks Ziroday I'll try that...
[23:39] <doug_> leveeathan: yw lol when i got the comp home 2 min after i had it i wiped vista put xp on it then ubuntu.
[23:39] <soundray> rainwalker: or start 'firefox -safe-mode' (no plugins/extensions) and see if it's stable then
[23:39] <Creationist> komputes: I don't want to purge my settings, though.  I want to copy my settings from Feisty to Hardy.
[23:40] <Aruza> i boot into ubuntu and i get to the Busybox shell and cant get into ubuntu...please help
[23:40] <Sl4m> This may seem a bit redundant or perhaps even a tad bit stupid, but is vnc being slow and unresponsive when used with vista > ubuntu a known issue?
[23:40] <komputes> Creationist: then backup your setting and put them back after doing what i posted
[23:40] <leveeathan> doug_: I have to wonder if it's possible for one to love both ubuntu and vista as well, it's like being a gay muslim, not that I would have anything against it!
[23:40] <soundray> Sl4m: not really. It's a known issue on slow network connections though
[23:40] <nanita><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:40] <Jezz`> hi
[23:40] <Jezz`> how do i get the cube thing in ubuntu?
[23:41] <leveeathan> Jezz`: compiz fusion, now go googling
[23:41] <doug_> leveeathan:  im running xp for games only since i got a big prob with wine.
[23:41] <doopy> Jezz`: Compiz-Fusion?
[23:41] <komputes> Creationist: otherwise lingering files from FF3 will collide with FF2 and give you glitches
[23:41] <ruggy> lol
[23:41] <babolat> Jezz`: u need to install compiz config setting man
[23:41] <ruggy> I was about to type that
[23:41] <Jezz`> wut?
[23:41] <nubbie_> leveeathan: that was horribly overgeneralizing. i know lots of gay muslims.
[23:41] <Jezz`> lol
[23:41] <dell> #kubuntu-es
[23:41] <ubuntu> Hello. I'm trying to (re)install Ubuntu, and I want to install it on a certain partition on /dev/sdb. However, according to the partition manager /dev/sdb is completely blank. I've got the same problem with Gparted on the installed Ubuntu & LiveCD, it just says that all space is "unallocated". I can see all the partition with other partition managers (and browsing those partition). What can be causing this problem?
[23:41] <sukuri> thanks for y'alls help.
[23:41] <Jezz`> ah open source support <3 :p
[23:41] <leveeathan> nubbie_: really? I stand corrected.
[23:41] <ruggy> Jezz: google compiz fusion
[23:41] <TalibJayid> anyone using oss4?
[23:41] <Jezz`> oh ok
[23:41] <Creationist> komputes: Ah... trying it now.
[23:41] <doopy> Jezz`: http://www.compiz-fusion.org/
[23:41] <babolat> Jezz`: in Add/Remove, look for ccsm
[23:41] <Aruza> when i boot into ubuntu and i get to the Busybox shell and cant get into ubuntu...please help
[23:41] <nubbie_> the ubuntu live cd (and all ubuntu derivative livecds) fail to boot due to a fault expanding the squashfs. the iso files are not the culprit, and i have tried many times, it is not my burner. I tested this with a program called unetbootin, which adds a livecd to the hard drive and adds a grub option. when booted from the harddrive the cd boots without fault. can somebody please help me figure this out?
[23:42] <Jezz`> thnx
[23:42] <leveeathan> nubbie_: by the way I was kidding also :> bad taste
[23:42] <dell> #ubuntu-es
[23:42] <nubbie_> just a little.
[23:42] <Creationist> komputes: Then copy my old ~/.mozilla/ over right?
[23:42] <Sl4m> soundray, strange... got a lan connection I considered rather fast, oh well
[23:42] <kbrosnan> Creationist: delete the localstore.rdf file in ~/.mozilla/firefox/...
[23:42] <ricanelite> is there a way i could stream internet channels like digg nation from my linux to machine to my xbox 360. Similar to what the Media Center in Windows does with the xbox 360?
[23:42] <kbrosnan> Creationist: with firefox closed
[23:42] <Creationist> kbrosnan: I've already deleted all of ~/.mozilla/
[23:42] <komputes> Creationist: yeah, or you can do what I did and just do it selectively
[23:43] <nubbie_> Creationist: then how do you expect to save your settings?
[23:43] <kbrosnan> Creationist: bit excessive when one file is causing the problem
[23:43] <doug_> leveeathan:  join me in room #wwwwede please just click on that.
[23:43] <nubbie_> Creationist: all of firefox's user-specific settings are kept in ~/.mozilla
[23:43] <komputes> Creationist: Just do it clean, by "settings" do you mean add-ons, extentions, skins and stuff?
[23:43] <R3D3Y3> Anyone have any luck with XFI sound cards and Ubuntu?
[23:44] <babolat> !xfi | R3D3Y3
[23:44] <Creationist> komputes: Basically I want all my bookmarks and add-ons back, yes.  I have them saved to an old user's folder.
[23:44] <R3D3Y3> Yes babolat
[23:44] <HaDy> Hello Everyone
[23:44] <nubbie_> Creationist: unless you can recover ~/.mozilla from your trash bin, your settings are not recoverable. follow komputes' instructions on how to get firefox working properly again.
[23:44] <GaintSura> hey all, I've got a fairly fresh install of ubuntu hardy and at random my terminal keeps freezing up, could anyone explain why, or how to fix this?
[23:45] <komputes> Creationist: no biggie, export you bookmarks, mark down your addons and install them clean
[23:45] <Creationist> nubbie_: I don't think you've read what I asked.  I have a backup of ~/.mozilla/
[23:45] <ubuntu> Hello. I'm trying to (re)install Ubuntu, and I want to install it on a certain partition on /dev/sdb. However, according to the partition manager /dev/sdb is completely blank. I've got the same problem with Gparted on the installed Ubuntu & LiveCD, it just says that all space is "unallocated". I can see all the partition with other partition managers (and browsing those partition). What can be causing this problem?
[23:45] <babolat> R3D3Y3: tell me if this is what u're looking for -->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239981
[23:45] <doug_> leveeathan:  please meet me in room #wwwwede please.
[23:45] <Creationist> komputes: Following your instructions to purge firefox 2 and reinstall... now it won't even start :)
[23:45] <rainwalker> Ziroday:  firefox -jsconsole
[23:45] <HaDy> Anyone familiar with ubuntu wireless networking?
[23:45] <nubbie_> Creationist: then purge firefox, reinstall it, and copy ~/.mozilla back to your home directory.
[23:45] <komputes> ubuntu: click on "new" in gparted
[23:45] <rainwalker> Ziroday: isn't giving any errors
[23:45] <jerbull> im getting the error it seems like your greeter application seems to be crashing. attempting to use a different one
[23:45] <nubbie_> !anyone | HaDy
[23:45] <Creationist> nubbie_: lol already done all that
[23:46] <soundray> !wifi | hady
[23:46] <R3D3Y3> yes and no... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571656 is more recent ..
[23:46] <R3D3Y3> I have tried it but no luck so far..
[23:46] <nubbie_> Creationist: i don't know how you can expect the settings from firefox 3 to be compatible with firefox 2.
[23:46] <jerbull> i just upgraded to 8.04 and it started
[23:46] <HaDy> kk
[23:46] <ubuntu> komputes: Won't that erase all my present partitions?
[23:46] <Creationist> nubbie_: Nevermind... I don't think you've read a thing I've written.  Thanks anyway.
[23:46] <komputes> ubuntu: if the disk is not blank then yes
[23:46] <komputes> ubuntu: what format is the data on the disk?
[23:47] <zyx386> i install vnc2swf but i become error "111 conection refused" , can every one help??
[23:47] <ubuntu> komputes: There are several partitions, FAT32, NTFS, ext3, swap
[23:47] <komputes> Creationist: "it won't even start", what do you mean by "it", did you follow my instructions to the letter?
[23:47] <nubbie_> Creationist: there are firefox extensions to back up your bookmarks. install the extension in ff3, use the extension, install ff2, install the same extension and backup your bookmarks.
[23:47] <babolat> R3D3Y3: which driver do u have?
[23:47] <fatfishy> does hardy upgrade better than previous versions
[23:47] <jerbull> i get the error: greeter application seems to be crashing. attempting to use another one after upgrade to 8.04. can anyone help
[23:47] <komputes> ubuntu: NTFS raided or logically merged?
[23:48] <R3D3Y3> babolat the very latest one.
[23:48] <Creationist> komputes: Yeah... I figured it out, though.  I forgot to run chown on the .mozilla/ directory after restoring it.
[23:48] <CorbinFox> are there any benchmarking tools for overall system performance for ubuntu?
[23:48] <babolat> R3D3Y3: as in the latest OSS?
[23:48] <ubuntu> komputes: Neither (?) just ordinary partitions.
[23:48] <komputes> Creationist: oh, because you had a different username or ID on the old PC?
[23:48] <R3D3Y3> no the latest xfi beta from opensource.creative.com
[23:48] <R3D3Y3> and ubuntu 8.04..
[23:48] <Creationist> komputes: Correct :P
[23:49] <R3D3Y3> some have it working ... some not like me.
[23:49] <komputes> ubuntu: bizarre, so the one that says unallocated, what filesystem is that supposed to be?
[23:49] <nubbie_> the ubuntu live cd (and all ubuntu derivative livecds) fail to boot due to a fault expanding the squashfs. the iso files are not the culprit, and i have tried many times, it is not my burner. I tested this with a program called unetbootin, which adds a livecd to the hard drive and adds a grub option. when booted from the harddrive the cd boots without fault. can somebody please help me figure this out?
[23:49] <ryoohki> how can i list files in a package without installing it? like 'apt-get listfiles somepackage'
[23:49] <komputes> Creationist: was it username or user ID# that changed?
[23:49] <babolat> R3D3Y3: coz i'm reading up on an ubuntuforums.org page about the latest http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi driver
[23:49] <jerbull> anyone know how to fix a greeter application error?
[23:49] <Creationist> komputes: However, after purging Firefox and reinstalling... it's the same thing.  The extensions are listed as being installed, but none of them work.
[23:49] <bazhang> Creationist, the non-mozilla branded swiftweasel works with ff2 plugins
[23:49] <soundray> !apt-file | ryoohki
[23:50] <ubuntu> komputes: It's not just with one of the partitions. The entire drive is "unallocated" (but it's very much not, Ubuntu is running on it).
[23:50] <komputes> Creationist: I would install them from the addons page, if that folder touched FF3 it's bugged, get it?
[23:50] <R3D3Y3> babolat that is not in ubuntu 8.04?
[23:50] <Creationist> komputes: I thought you were supposed to be able to have both FF2 and 3 installed side-by-side.
[23:50] <komputes> ubuntu: that is logically not possible
[23:50] <nubbie_> Creationist: FF3 plugins will NOT work with FF2.
[23:50] <Xcell> Hello folks
[23:50] <komputes> Creationist: ha
[23:50] <nubbie_> Creationist: that does NOT mean their plugins are compatible between firefox versions.
[23:50] <babolat> R3D3Y3: what makes u think it's not? of course it is
[23:51] <Creationist> nubbie_: For the last time.... that has nothing to do with what I'm asking.  PLEASE either pay attention or stop trying to "help."
[23:51] <proq> nubbie_: most people don't use firefox plugins
[23:51] <komputes> Creationist: if it weren't for me contacting the MOTU, FF2 wouldn't even be included in Hardy
[23:51] <jerbull> anyone know how to fix a greeter application that is crashing
[23:51] <kbrosnan> Creationist: delete extensions.rdf from ~/.mozilla/firefox...
[23:51] <R3D3Y3> babolat... I though you were going to say it's not in 8.04.. lol..
[23:51] <bazhang> Creationist, the swiftweasel works perfectly well..
[23:51] <ubuntu> komputes: It's obviously something wrong with GParted for not showing me my partitions, when all other partition managers do. And I can access all files on the drive.
[23:51] <doug_> LadyNikon:  i am going afk for awhile but feel free to join room #wwwed and ask me something about the nvidia i will respond when i get back
[23:51] <Creationist> komputes: Well that would have been a damn stupid thing not to include seeing how FF3 is terrible so far in terms of compatibility with add-ons.
[23:51] <komputes> Creationist: try opening FF3 then FF2, it will just open FF3 twice
[23:51] <komputes> Creationist: and that its beta
[23:52] <Creationist> Exactly.
[23:52] <nubbie_> Creationist: i don't think you're understanding what's being told to you. you say you're trying to get the ~/.mozilla folder you had using FF3 working with FF2, and you're wondering why the plugins aren't working. several people, including myself, are telling you they aren't compatible.
[23:52] <komputes> komputes: never understood how a beta made it onto an LTS
[23:52] <babolat> R3D3Y3: try at your own risk as i have *never* done this or met someone who had.. for more info, go here -->http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=740776 and here -->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=734037
[23:52] <proq> Creationist: you can download the firefox2 binary and run it
[23:52] <ryoohki> ubottu: yes but i don't want to install the package.  "yum" i think has an option to list the files in a package without installing it
[23:52] <komputes> oops Creationist ^^^
[23:52] <Creationist> nubbie_: No.  I'm not trying to get FF3 settings into FF2.
[23:52] <ryoohki> ubottu: thanks
[23:52] <CorbinFox> are there any benchmarking tools for ubuntu?
[23:53] <Creationist> I am trying to get my backup of my FF2 settings from Feisty to work with FF2 in Hardy.
[23:53] <proq> CorbinFox: there's time and lots of others
[23:53] <Fishscene> !torrent
[23:53] <Fishscene> criminy. Where do I get the Ubuntu torrent?
[23:53]  * leveeathan wants transmission to use ssl :(
[23:53] <bazhang> Fishscene, !torrents
[23:53] <team1432> Is there a simple way to see the ASCII input from a serial port on my computer? Or is there some software I need to get? If so, what?
[23:53] <Fishscene> !torrents
[23:53] <nubbie_> Fishscene: the ubuntu website.
[23:53] <Fishscene> Thanks Bazhang
[23:53] <[T]an3> blah
[23:53] <HaDy> ok i went to that link to follow the steps on wireless networking
[23:53] <bazhang> ;]
[23:54] <CorbinFox> proq: time? and can you sugest some?  even just a name.  so far my google searches havent been that useful
[23:54] <HaDy> i done that before with no result
[23:54] <HaDy> and i was forced to reformat
[23:54] <ryoohki> !Encode::compat
[23:54] <bazhang> hady what card what chipset what tutorial
[23:54] <R3D3Y3> babolat ok, will do, thanks for the tips.
[23:54] <HaDy> Broadcom
[23:54] <proq> CorbinFox: yes, such as "time python test.py"
[23:54] <ryoohki> !Lingua::EN::Sentence
[23:54] <HaDy> let me get the number
[23:54] <Aruza> can anyone help me get around busybox so my machine will boot?
[23:54] <proq> CorbinFox: "time ruby foo.rb" etc.
[23:54] <Aruza> '
[23:55] <HaDy> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)
[23:55] <CorbinFox> proq: ok, i think i got my answer :) thanks
[23:55] <bazhang> Aruza, in the boot params try all_generic_ide
[23:55] <proq> CorbinFox: apt-cache search benchmark
[23:55] <HaDy> i tried to used ndiswrapper
[23:55] <HaDy> i got the windows drivers and installed them with it
[23:55] <Aruza> Bazhang: =( im a noob i dont even know how to do that
[23:56] <bazhang> Aruza, or in the busybox shell try to modprobe generic ide
[23:56] <komputes> proq: ha i just sent him that in a PM
[23:56] <HaDy> it says Hardware present:yes
[23:56] <HaDy> but i just ca't seem to work
[23:56] <bazhang> HaDy, why not fwcutter
[23:56] <HaDy> uhm
[23:56] <HaDy> i don't know what that is :)
[23:57] <Aruza> bazhang: it says FATAL: Module generic not found
[23:57] <ubuntu> What could cause GParted to not show the partitions on /dev/sdb, when cfdisk shows them?
[23:57] <bazhang> Aruza, you know the grub menu? the one you can enter at the *very* beginning (after bios)?
[23:57] <Aruza> yeah
[23:57] <bazhang> Aruza, ah try generic_ide or generic-ide
[23:58] <ikonia> bazhang: can you modprobe from the grub shell ?
[23:58] <bazhang> ikonia, he is in busybox
[23:58] <ikonia> oooh
[23:58] <ikonia> I was impressed for a second there
[23:58] <bazhang> wubi I would guess
[23:59] <Aruza> bazhang: same result for generic_ide and generic-ide
[23:59] <bazhang> Aruza, I must be mis-rememberating, hang on a sec
[23:59] <Aruza> ok any help is great!