 Hmm, seems that IRC messages aren't reaching Matrix?
[00:16] <AltSuperBox> Yep, they're here in IRC but not in Matrix
[00:16] <UniSuperBox> But I can send from Matrix, so at least we're going one way I guess
 @UniversalSuperBox, Maybe they can try Matrix? ;)
 No
 Messages from IRC
 Are not going into Matrix
[01:06] <UniSuperBox> So we people over here in Matrix land can send messages but not receive them, as far as I can tell
 Solution : Use matrix?
 Or telegram.
 Send a message from telegram to matrix then over to IRV
 Byw
 Bye
 train some pigeons
 Fax machine is better
 it's only a cheap facsimile
 https://thenextweb.com/mobile/2018/04/24/ubuntu-touch-lives-again-on-the-upcoming-crowdfunded-purism-librem-5-smartphone/
 someone is not in the newschannel
[05:30] <ubptgbot> iamasim was added by: iamasim
 Anyone using UT on T-Mobile? Still unable to get the APN settings to work and looking for direction.
[06:29] <ubptgbot> MrYou31 was added by: MrYou31
 hi guys, can i try other phones other than the ones listed at the site?
 @hydrahex, I guess i know my next phone
 @dohbee, Music from SD works flawlessly. No idea what tag editing is.
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/6JfjAYcr.png
 This
[06:33] <ubptgbot> Black_Firefox was added by: Black_Firefox
 @SexyBeast420, Ah cool, thanks. Does it work?
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/qsiFhpPt.png Yes
 @SexyBeast420, In UT? Cant seem to do it in the file manager, nor in the Music App.
 @Jo_Led, I am using samsungs music app
 @SWJLaw, Are they now part of EE,Plusenet etc under BT. Might be able to help if they are if your in the UK that is.
 @SexyBeast420, Ah i see! Thanks.
 hey , anyone knows why the 18.04 still as development for today ? :\
 Actually ubuntu touch is on 15.04
 @nanu_c, not the touch version
 Actually 16.04 is "still" in development
 but I can't see anyknow explains why , thats why I've asked here
 @alan_griffiths, you mean 18.04
 @alan_griffiths, to fix gnome issues ?
 @lexirv, No
 @alan_griffiths, wtf
 UT has no gnome issues
 Ut is not using gnome ;)
 @alan_griffiths, ubuntu unity ?
 No, it uses Unity8
 99 problems, but gnome aint one😂
 @alan_griffiths, I am wondering why the fuck 18.04 is still in development while today is the release date  … do you know why ?
 am not asking about 16.04
 maybe go to canonical with that (attitude?)
 We are not part of canonical so we dont know
[07:39] <ubptgbot> [ deleted ] was added by: [ deleted ]
 really , fuck it , arch is bae
 self destruct in 3, 2, 1
[07:42] <ubptgbot> <[ deleted ]> https://www.reddit.com/r/UbuntuPhone/comments/8f0pz5/can_i_install_ubuntu_touch_on_my_phone_lenovo/?utm_source=reddit-android … Can anyone help me with this question?
 I have yet to see a stable rolling release that's other than Gentoo
 @[ deleted ], Hi @[deleted]
[07:44] <ubptgbot> <[ deleted ]> @YougoChats, Hi hugo.
 Fwd from YougoChats: all supported devices are here: http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices#/ … if your device is not listed and if you are a developer, you may try to port UT to your device
[07:47] <ubptgbot> <[ deleted ]> @YougoChats, Ok thanks hugo. I will check the links
 @lexirv, We are wondering why the fuck you are asking us about something that has nothing to do with UBports or Ubuntu Touch.
 @alan_griffiths, Because didn't find any answer in other groups
 @lexirv, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streetlight_effect
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc.ubports.com/UjwfaYw4.png
 > a draft of the release annoucement … > we advise to wait to june  … » its your system , you can do whatever you want ...
 [Edit] > a draft of the release annoucement … > we advise to wait to june  … > why ? … Because » its your system , you can do whatever you want ...
 very interesting tbh
[08:08] <ubptgbot> 😍❤😘 MADE ITALY 😘❤😍 was added by: 😍❤😘 MADE ITALY 😘❤😍
[08:12] <ubptgbot> <Georg Simon> @YougoChats, Now "sudo ubports-installer" works. Thank you.
 glad i could help😉
[08:23] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> (Photo, 640x640) https://irc.ubports.com/5FZNbkqp.png Canonical прекратила разработку Ubuntu Touch в апреле 2017 года. … Несмотря на это, над проектом Ubuntu Touch трудятся разработчики из UBPorts. Система "живая", приложения появляются каждый день.
[08:23] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> Fwd from Ubuntu/Ubuntu Touch: Canonical has stopped the development of Ubuntu Touch in April 2017. … Despite this, the project is working Ubuntu Touch developers UBPorts. The system is "live", applications appear every day. … #UbuntuTouchfacts
 good to know. so where can i find these guys?
 Hi, welcome @iamasim @MrYou31 @Black_Firefox [ deleted  😍❤😘 MADE ITALY 😘❤😍  Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started
 @YougoChats, Russia maybe ?
 @lexirv, I assume you wont search there anyway
 jk
[08:40] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> @lexirv, Kazakhstan
 @Павел Алексеев, lol
[08:42] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> @lexirv, What?:)
 @Павел Алексеев, you are the channel owner , right ?
 He's not
 @SexyBeast420, he knows him ?
 @lexirv, I dont think so
 @lexirv please, stay on track with this channel topic or go to https://t.me/ubports_ot
[08:51] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> @lexirv, I'm created of this @ubuntu01 channel
 uh
[09:24] <ubptgbot> albin_john was added by: albin_john
 @albin_john, Hi Albin, check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
 Can I install Ubuntu Touch on my Samsung galaxy s2 duos?
 This is the list of supported devices http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices
 You can try to port it yourself https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
[10:14] <ubptgbot> Nykorchuk was added by: Nykorchuk
[10:21] <ubptgbot> Andrey Lubianskii was added by: Andrey Lubianskii
[10:24] <ubptgbot> <Andrey Lubianskii> Hello, can I install the OS on Samsung S3 mini (SM-G730W8)?
 Welcome @Nykorchuk & Andrey !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
 If you'll look at our devices list, you'll see that the Samsung S3 mini is not there, unfortunately. You could try to port UT to it if you have the experience!
[11:12] <ubptgbot> Sharmanishant was added by: Sharmanishant
 @Sharmanishant, Hi Nishant, check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
 @YougoChats, Ha
 @lexirv, I ask you to please not use aggressive or bad language in any UBports group. We follow the Ubuntu Code of Conduct and we cannot tolerate that kind of communication. Thanks for your understanding and enjoy the community.
 @lexirv, Hello, I'm trying to save some of the birthday dates in the calendar of Ubuntu Touch, but the only choice I have is "staff"
 Hello, I'm trying to save some of the birthday dates in the calendar of Ubuntu Touch, but the only choice I have is "staff"
 Have you noticed to be a problem ?
 @lexirv, Racism ???
 😠
 @lexirv, ...
 @Sconio, Can you explain what you did step by step? I've never used that 'thing' but I see it and I can try to test
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/FH6M7l35.png
 Personnel,
 Blocked
 In calendar
 Darn. My TG doesn't display that image.  I will switch to other machine give me about 30 min if thats ok
 personnel should be translated to 'private' i think
 Ok np
 or personal. it's your own default calendar.
 if you want more calendars, you should add them via the service you sync to. (example: go to google calendar and add calendars there)
 Not use sync
 hmm
 Just add birthday , and not possible choose birthday
 you want more than one offline calendar?
 birthday is a returning appointment. you have to add by swiping up
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/n3YW7Kup.png
 I just want to add ( local ) anniversary dates for not to forget them, and normally there is the possibility to choose "staff" or "anniversary" only there , only one staff is used.
 i have  never seen offline preprogrammed anniversary or holiday calenders in UT calendar app.
 I do not want to use synchronization , I do not approve of this method ( personally )
 anniversaries and holidays vary per person/country/religion etc. there is no way to add all of them for everyone. you have to add them for yourself
 @Sconio, What ?
 or get a gmail account and get them from google
 It is possible to add a note to staff without synchronisarion, in case I don't see why the addition of an anniversary date, to be asked? …  problem, the synchronization is an optional choice, no ?
 i'm sorry, that question is just too hard to read.
 @Павел Алексеев, ..
 @lexirv, ..
 @YougoChats, Sorry i use translate :)
 if you want to add an appointment to a calendar, you can do so by swiping up in the calendar view. you dont need sync for that. there is no preprogrammed calendar
 Its possible use personnel
 @Sconio, yeah , didn't mean it that way , .. thought he was kidding at first because there is someone before said he isn't the channel owner
 @Sconio, yes
 And not possible birthday
 personnel does not mean staff. it means private
 you can make an appointment and call it birthday
 No
 Not possible
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/rRloNY0i.png
 Juste Personnel
 go back to calendar view
 swipe up
 make appointment
 Yet the option is there though
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/lNBIBuZf.png
 Not possible switch
 ahh now i see what you mean.
 Yes :)
 Its one litle bug
 i guess it's a read-only calendar. not for you to add things. but then i don't know it's purpose
 i think we have found a good blog topic
 for an upcoming review...
 i actually didn't know you could swipe up haha  i always touched calendar.  nice.
 wait.. nevermnd. ha
 i use lots of calenar programs
 definitely calendar needs some updating and love and it's a core app
 cool. you can show ISO week  numbers :)
 as far as i can see the holiday calendar is empty (not even christmas) and read only.  … as i said ubports can't add every holiday for everyone in the world, so best thing imo is to remove it
 @Sconio is right.  what is the purpose of that 'birthdays & anniversaires' thing because it doesn't show up as a calendar you can add to for me either. it's missing from list.
 or add functionality to manage (make/move/copy/delete) offline calendars
 @YougoChats, i agree. it would be better to remove it and then if you want these holidays you just add to your personal calendar (I'm sure you can do that)
 i have multiple calendars with multiple colors (work, kids, wife etc) but those are managed via google. UT has no way to do this offline
 i smell a feature request
 i can add events to the calendars offline and it syncs whenever.
 (I think)
 but can you make a new calendar?
 and this link might help get stuff into your calendar: … https://www.calendarlabs.com/ical-calendar//
 (or some website like this)
 @YougoChats, allow me to try....
 @wayneoutthere, not the problem though
 @YougoChats, i cannot.  it seems only personal is there and 'add online calendar' but I cannot add 'offline calendar'
 feature request confirmed.
 bingo
 but who will loggit? :)
 paper rock scissors?
 haha
 3
 2
 1
 paper
 🌴
 📢
 It is a shame to have to depend on the calendar synchronized
 i suck at this game
 @Sconio, i think we agree.  it should be your choice
 @Sconio, i agree. thank you for pointing this out
 i will make the feature request tonight
 if you can great.  I think this is the page. I can do it now but i'm not the best githubber … https://github.com/ubports/calendar-app/issues
 i'll try
 this https://github.com/ubports/calendar-app/issues/74
 @YougoChats, Thank you for feedback.
 and this … https://github.com/ubports/calendar-app/issues/75
 @YougoChats, Wife, very important, I can confirm 🤣👍
 very! i have to caerfully schedule it with my "mistress" calendar!
 [Edit] very! i have to carefully schedule it with my "mistress" calendar!
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/gDgsRdll.webp
 I think I saw there is coming soon some another calendar update, with some interesting new festures
 oh?
 do tell
 @YougoChats, It's not holidays. It's "birthdays and anniversaries of your contacts" It's from upstream evolution-data-server and read-only. If you want things to show up in it, you should add birthday or anniversary data to contacts. if that doesn't work in UT, then it's just a bug somewhere in the integration there
 [Edit] I think I saw there is coming soon some another calendar update, with some interesting new features
 @dohbee, Do you know where exactly is that info to edit?
 in Contacts
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/BjY2Kkv0.png
 I can only see email address
 Birthday is missing
 But the contacts options are kind of very limited
 And one more interesting
 In Social
 Is missing Telegram, uMatrix,...
 @milkor73, Where is that ?
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/JsI560hz.png
 Wow. Hidden options
 @milkor73, This would require deeper app integration which doesn't exist yet
 to be useful anyway
 the IM bit there is not really useful on the phone, given the lack of IM
 @milkor73, wow. cool.  yes, we need to write a blog on this, haha.  And yes, this list is nasty out of date.  Diaspora...
 @dohbee, Xenial ?
 no. xenial doesn't fix any of that
 @hummlbach hi Johannes. Are you following this conversation ?
 ok, looks like a date selector and support for birthdays/anniversaries needs added to contacts app
 but if you sync from google some contacts, their birthdays should show up for example
 @dohbee, Yes. Well. At least that is what happens in ios/android
 well in (stock) android/ios by default i think there is no such thing as a local calendar
 or contacts
 but they have UI to add such details in the default app, too
 Anybody here , i am driving, willing to open on GitHub feature request pls
 ?
 For the contacts we spoke now
 i think it's just a bug. the underlying feature is there, just no UI to use it
 Aha
 And should we open it for Vivid or already Xenial?
 as a bug
 Both I thing better
 i guess it won't get fixed in vivid
 Here my another question
 at least, i think contacts app is still only shipped as a deb, not a click
 I think nobody will move unsolved bugs from GitHub vivid to Xenial
 am I right? Would be nonsense
 i don't think issues on github have any relation to branches
 Aha, that is interesting. This would mean everybody should confirm or not his opened bug once Xenial launched?
 i mean, you can already do so really, as there are 16.04 devel builds
 @milkor73 you can just open an issue with the problem, are the devs to decide when and where to fix it
 Thx both for explaining 👍
 No limits, only those my brain builds one 😂
[14:42] <ubptgbot> ChandonMia was added by: ChandonMia
 Welcome @ChandonMia!!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
 No Ubuntu touch for my phone
 😂
[15:21] <ubptgbot> Nitron was added by: Nitron
 @Nitron, Welcome, Nitron! Check out this to get you started! If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or in our Welcome and Install room! … ubports.com/telegram-welcome
 @ChandonMia, 😔
 @ChandonMia, I've seen people get a Nexus 5 for as low as $60 if you're interested
[15:45] <jahtemg> Anyone tested with ulefone s7 ? Its a cheap chinese phone
[15:46] <oerheks> if there is a port, you can test it, i doubt there is one ( yet)
 there is no port
 jahtemg: If you have the time and energy, you could port UT to it
 @amolith, 👌
 jahtemg, likely you can't even port to it unless you take law action against Ulefone to release GPL kernel sources
 FYI I cut my N4 case and made it work for N5
 all you need is a dremmel tool and not care if it's perfect when you're done.
 I saved $2.99 USD
 but I spent $20.00 in my time
 i always found a case to interfere with edge swipes
 UT Tweak Tool is wonderful for fixing edge swipes with a case that messes with it
[16:16] <ubptgbot> Flávio Dias was added by: Flávio Dias
 not having a case works great too
[16:17] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> Good evening. How do I display the weather and battery percentage in the status bar?
 https://open-store.io/app/indicator-weather.bhdouglass
 @Павел Алексеев, the battery percentage with UT Tweak Tool
 https://open-store.io/app/ut-tweak-tool.sverzegnassi
 enjoy this blog before using tweak tool: https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ut-tweak-tool-109
 or just set the setting for battery percentage from CLI using gsettings tool
[16:21] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> @TronFortyTwo, he needs to enter api key
 @Павел Алексеев, it's your passcode
[16:22] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> Indicator weather
 for weather maybe, not for battery
 @Павел Алексеев, oh
 yes
 yep, web services are often a pain that way
[16:28] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> What api key
[16:28] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> ?
 for the weather service. it shoudl say
 either dark sky or openweathermap
 https://ucarecdn.com/2c42f585-7216-48bb-9e51-a2f0e4358d67~2/nth/0/-/format/jpeg/-/quality/lightest/
[16:34] <ubptgbot> <Павел Алексеев> @dohbee, Send please full api key
 no you have to get your own api key
 if it was a shared api key you wouldn't need to enter it.
 Welcome Flávio !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.
[16:57] <ubptgbot> qltele was added by: qltele
 hello ~I would like to ask, the screen problem of nexus 5 is solved?
 what screen problem?
 The problem of  screen cannot be closed
 i'm not sure what you mean
 longlong time ago ,i flash ubuntu touch,but i can't  close the screen display
 you mean the screen backlight would stay on?
 sorry my eng is poor
 @dohbee, yeah
 yes, that was fixed a long time ago
 oh thank you !
 i wiil try ubuntu touch
 [Edit] i will try ubuntu touch
 it mostly works pretty great on nexus 5
 wow ! nice !
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/ufB0kzwo.webp
 and anbox support ?
 is that anbox start to work?
 no, anbox does not work on qcom yet afaik, and is not part of any image builds yet either
 ok thank you very much
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/jrF016ae.webp
 Is it possible to disable or remove the browser app from UT?
 what? Why?
 Someone asked me whether it is possible to disable or remove the browser app and install web apps for parental control
 @Zack, Maybe you can get rid of the icon but a web app needs the browser, too
 @Flohack, Good point! Do you know how I could get rid of the icon?
 So there is 'no access' to the browser through the icon?
 @Zack, you can remove the desktop file for it, its placed in /usr/share/applications
 to make the system rw, do sudo mount -o rw,remount /
 This is something we should allow in later version, to hide icons
 [Edit] This is something we should allow in later version, to hide icons (using UI, not by modifying the system)
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/F39QeqyU.png
 Awesome guys! Thank you for the tips!
[18:09] <ubptgbot> brihadeesh was added by: brihadeesh
 Welcome @brihadeesh !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @brihadeesh, Welcome, Brihadeesh! Check out ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started!
 Lol @Bolly
 Thanks!
 (Sticker, 414x512) https://irc.ubports.com/B84CAEIs.webp
 (Voice, 11s) https://irc.ubports.com/2CSoE79Q.oga
 @SiscoGarcia, Are you sure you have sent that voice message to the right group?
 @SiscoGarcia, What is it?
 a demo saying "no is no"
 @advocatux, Yeah, I hear that now. All I heard before was the whistle
 @amolith, Sorry, i've mistaken chat
 No problem
 @mariogrip, Super developer mode
 @mariogrip, You can set a gsettings key to blacklist icons from the apps scope
 it will still appear in the open store though
[19:12] <ubptgbot> marvingnils was added by: marvingnils
 Welcome @marvingnils ! Please check out https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome , if you havn't already.
 @qltele, What is your main language?
 @Stereofont, Chinese 汉语
 中文
 https://t.me/UBports_Chinese
 @Stereofont, thanks
 Welcome
[19:34] <ubptgbot> SRIDHARDV was added by: SRIDHARDV
 @SRIDHARDV, Hello Sridhar. If you would like to read more about UBports, here is a link … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @Stereofont, Yeah thank you
 Also https://t.me/UBports_India
[20:02] <ubptgbot> guiferpa was added by: guiferpa
 Hi Guilherme. Here is a link for UBports stuff … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[20:41] <ubptgbot> HalJordanGL was added by: HalJordanGL
 @MrYou31, Only if someone does the porting, which is a complicated process. https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
 Welcome @HalJordanGL !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
[21:19] <ubptgbot> Богдан was added by: Богдан
 Hi Богдан! At this moment you are our exactly 1500th member in the group! Congratulations! 🎉 … Because with this many people it get's really busy in no time, there are some more groups for certain topics. You can read this and more at our welcome page: https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[21:47] <ubptgbot> Gustavo was added by: Gustavo
 Welcome Gustavo !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.
[21:54] <ubptgbot> leonardoschneider was added by: leonardoschneider
 Welcome @leonardoschneider !!! Check out this to get you started! If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or in our Welcome and Install room! … ubports.com/telegram-welcome
 @Bolly, Thank you
 Anyone can answer a general Github question? I'm kind of new to use it. I already contributed to a project. Now I want to contribute again but github says that my repo is 38 commits behind. Can I update it to be on the same level again? Or did I get something wrong?
 Yes!
 You can update it
 First, you'll need to add the upstream as a new remote. `git remote add upstream [url of upstream]`
 Then, you can pull the equivalent branch. `git pull upstream [branch]`
 And then you can push with `git push origin`
 But I don't use it on my pc. Its all on the github web UI
 Hmm, I don't think there's a way to do that one.
 Time to get aquanted with the CLI. :D
 @UniversalSuperBox, I don't want to clone it all for a one-line-change 😟
 You’re editing a file in a project you don’t have write access to. Submitting a change to this file will write it to a new branch in your fork, so you can send a pull request. … That message before saving the changes
 That'll do
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/BcM0SLKz.webp
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/c450oDJ0.webp
 Have fun with stickers if you like :)


[00:19] <cyborgcygnus> Anyone got a ubottu link for the xubuntu power buttons/power manager? When I used to open the whisker menu & hit the power  button it would bring up options of what I wanted to do, now it just logs me out of the account & I have to click the shutdown button again from the login menu.
[00:20] <cyborgcygnus> msg ubottu
[00:22] <knome> try xfce4-session-logout
[02:59] <meek_geek> which image viewer is used by xubuntu?
[03:00] <xangua> Don't remember but I think is part of xfce goodies
[03:00] <xangua> I prefer using viewnoir when using xfce
[03:01] <meek_geek> viewnoir ? is it super fast ?
[03:06] <xangua> If you are looking for faster or lightest applications I think xfce default apps are good enough
[04:55] <xx> excuse me, what is the password for exit Light Locker Mode
[05:41] <xx> excuse me, what is the password for exit Light Locker Mode,anybody can help me?
[07:34] <enrico_> hi guys, I'm having troubles installing the proper driver for my printer - epson xp-510. With generic drivers it prints just a bunch of code, and when I try to install the specific driver everything freeze during installation
[07:35] <enrico_> I already tried restarting xubuntu
[07:36] <enrico_> http://www.openprinting.org/driver/epson-201309w/
[07:39] <enrico_> driver installation starts, after a while (30-60sec) I enter the password and everything stops, both from printer settings and software center
[07:39] <ObrienDave> http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/?OSC=LX
[07:40] <ObrienDave> enter your model number
[07:42] <enrico_> .deb right?
[07:42] <enrico_> (yeah, linux noob here)
[07:43] <ObrienDave> yes, 64bit or i486 (32 bit)
[07:43] <ObrienDave> i386, sorry
[07:44] <ObrienDave> don't know what you have
[07:44] <enrico_> 32
[07:44] <enrico_> stuck in software center...
[07:45] <ObrienDave> what's stuck?
[07:45] <enrico_> installation
[07:46] <ObrienDave> of this file? your previous attempt?
[07:46] <enrico_> both
[07:46] <enrico_> after entering pw
[07:46] <ObrienDave> you can't do both at the same time
[07:46] <enrico_> it doesn't move
[07:46] <enrico_> no, I aborted the previous, of course
[07:47] <enrico_> should I try from terminal?
[07:47] <ObrienDave> i suggest a shut down, then come back after a reboot
[07:47] <enrico_> already did that a couple of times
[07:48] <enrico_> I'll try another one
[07:48] <ObrienDave> but you're still stuck
[07:48] <enrico_> just the installation
[07:48] <enrico_> the other stuff work
[07:50] <enrico_> reboot
[07:53] <enrico_> i'm back
[07:53] <ObrienDave> ok, did you save the .deb?
[07:54] <enrico_> yeah
[07:54] <enrico_> should I try from terminal?
[07:54] <ObrienDave> ok, i'd use whatever opens on double clicking the deb
[07:55] <enrico_> software center
[07:55] <ObrienDave> that should work
[07:55] <ObrienDave> it might be D/Ling dependencies also
[07:58] <enrico_> bingo!
[07:58] <enrico_> Thanks a lot!
[07:59] <ObrienDave> most welcome
[07:59] <enrico_> bye, have a good day!
[08:00] <ObrienDave> another satisfied customer LOL
[08:42] <auvajs> please help I recently upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 but now have a bıg problem. when I try to log in into my account after my laptop was in sleep there is a black screen only.. Im writing from text console now...
[08:43] <ObrienDave> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736
[08:44] <auvajs> ok but I cant access a graphic browser.. have console only
[08:44] <auvajs> so no ıdea whats on that page
[08:45] <ObrienDave> well, does your screen work after rebooting?
[08:45] <auvajs> rebooting was somethıng I tried to avoid
[08:46] <ObrienDave> why?
[08:47] <auvajs> cause I simply hate it .. restart only when necessary.. basically only when doing a system upgrade
[08:48] <auvajs> ok ciao
[08:50] <Unit193> Restarting lightdm would work, as would one recommendation in that bug.
[08:51] <ObrienDave> he did not want to reboot. go figure
[08:52] <Unit193> Of course, no need to, there's other ways.
[08:54] <ObrienDave> yes, always other ways, but if it works, what's wrong with rebooting?
[08:58] <ObrienDave> i could see the point if you're talking about some mission critical server or something
[09:26] <uflaig> hello everyone, I am having a quick question, is there a shortcut to make one window transparent?
[09:26] <uflaig> alt + mousewheel up/down seems not do the trick on the title bar
[10:06] <SamwiseGamgee> testing
[10:06] <SamwiseGamgee> Anyone here?
[10:06] <ObrienDave> no
[10:06] <slickymasterWork> !ask | SamwiseGamgee
[10:06] <cfhowlett> SamwiseGamgee not a onne
[10:07] <SamwiseGamgee> ok
[10:09]  * slickymasterWork guess he was just ckecking for life forms
[10:09] <larsm13> Xchat test
[10:09] <cfhowlett> larsm13 yes we see you
[10:09] <larsm13> I am SamwiseGamgee
[10:09] <slickymasterWork> lol, after all he wasn't
[10:10] <cfhowlett> !nick|larsm13
[10:10] <larsm13> Actually, I don't know how to do that, Mr. Bot, because I don't know how to use Xchat
[10:12] <larsm13> I am only use Xchat to test my dns, cause I had problems with the DNS last night
[10:13] <larsm13> I just wanted to know if the dns is working for freenode.  I got my answer.
[10:22] <silentSae> hey people
[10:23] <silentSae> I have xubuntu 12.04 installed on my acer aspire v5-472
[10:23] <silentSae> and I cannot resume from suspend/sleep
[10:24] <silentSae> I have tried everything mentioned on the forums
[10:24] <silentSae> and tried to use a script but it does not work
[10:24] <silentSae> any help would be greatly appreciated
[11:17] <ARM9> so the menu bugged out on me
[11:17] <ARM9> I removed a program I had installed manually but now I can't remove the menu entry for whatever reason
[11:17] <ARM9> it doesn't show up in the menu editor, but it does show up when I open the menu
[11:17] <ARM9> start menu or whatever
[11:18] <ARM9> looks like I'll have to remove it manually, where/how to do this?
[11:21] <eespln> ARM9: have you rebooted?
[11:22] <ARM9> several times
[11:22] <ARM9> I uninstalled it weeks ago
[11:22] <eespln> you're using whisker menu?
[11:22] <ARM9> whatever the default in xubuntu 14.04 is
[11:22] <ARM9> that looks about right yes
[11:23] <eespln> I'm on windows right now :( but the menu entries should be in /usr/share somewhere...
[11:23] <eespln> I'll be in Xubuntu 14.04 in like 2 minutes, though
[11:23] <ARM9> thanks, I'll dig around a bit
[11:25] <eespln> have a look in /usr/share/menu
[11:28] <eespln> what application is it?
[11:29] <ARM9> looks to be nothing in there
[11:29] <ARM9> sublime text 2, installed it manually iirc
[11:29] <eespln> manually as in compiled it etc?
[11:29] <ARM9> so I made the menu entry with menulibre, but for whatever reason it bugged out when I removed the program (put it in /home/me/bin/sublime2)
[11:30] <ARM9> nah, just downloaded and made a menu entry for t
[11:30] <eespln> you can try running
[11:30] <eespln> locate -i sublime
[11:30] <eespln> and see if anything is left
[11:32] <ARM9> need to memorize that command, thanks
[11:32] <ARM9> found some things, I'll try removing them
[11:32] <eespln> ah, locate is easy but really useful
[11:33] <ARM9> yup found the culprit, menu entry is gone, thanks for the help
[11:33] <eespln> you're welcome :)
[11:53] <eespln> flash video on KNOPPIX works fine for me on my laptop, but is choppy as hell on Xubuntu. any ideas what would be causing it?
[13:29] <Xcrashed> If I were to switch from Xfce to KDE, witch major differences would I likely to experience?
[13:30] <SirLagz> Xcrashed: *everything*
[13:31] <Xcrashed> So no troubles Installing KDE on Xubuntu?
[13:34] <holstein> Xcrashed: you might want to read about swiching to kubuntu, though, sometimes i run into challenges expecting the flavor distro meta packages to exist together well, like, adding kubuntu-deskto to xubuntu.. but, installing just kde will certainly be no trouble, and xubuntu is not doing anything to prevent you adding kde
[13:34] <holstein> Xcrashed: will you have troubles? you can have troubles with any part of the process..
[13:36] <Xcrashed> One more question, is Xfce more lightweight in terms of CPU and memory usage?
[13:37] <Hedgework> Xcrashed: than what?
[13:37] <Xcrashed> KDE
[13:37] <Hedgework> Xcrashed: yes
[13:37] <Xcrashed> Thanks that's all.
[13:37] <Hedgework> KDE > Gnome > Xfce4 > fluxbox > i3wm > fvwm
[13:37] <Hedgework> (in terms of resources typically consumed)
[13:37] <holstein> by default.. but, any user could setup a slim kde, or a heavy xfce..
[13:38] <Hedgework> holstein: I said "typically"...I figure if you're seriously changing from the typical set-up you already understand the subject well enough to know what you're doing and not need the info
[13:40] <holstein> Hedgework: sure.. i just dont think that user is aware of any of the facts.. but, they are gone
[13:40] <Hedgework> holstein: right, so I just assumed they'd run stock whatever with a bunch of crap stapled on top :P
[13:41] <eespln> how much RAM would I need to run a default KDE setup comfortably
[13:41] <eespln> ?
[13:42] <m1chael> i am feeling very frustrated. i upgraded to 14.04 when it was released, and if i close the lid of my laptop, and re-open the lid- the computer will never recover from a black screen. i have done updates, tried fixes (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736), i just can't seem to get this fixed.. what would you guys do?
[13:43] <holstein> !kde
[13:44] <holstein> eespln: it depends on more factors.. graphics card support and other system resoures.. i would try a kubuntu live CD and see for youself on your actual hardware
[13:44] <eespln> will do, thanks
[13:56] <xubuntu596> hey
[13:58] <eespln> Hi
[14:17] <Pa^2> How can I increase the size of my windows corner controls (e.g. edges and corners)
[14:23] <eespln> Pa^2: I don't know if this solves your problem but you can right click the top of the window and choose resize if you have difficulty using the corner handles
[14:23] <Pa^2> Thanks
[14:24] <Pa^2> Works great.
[14:24] <eespln> :)
[14:51] <rosa_> hello anybody! i need help with the thema/design from windows and scrollbars and the movement from windows
[14:52] <rosa_> i want to change the actual design.. to a design what is easy to old people
[14:52] <rosa_> thanks for help and greatings from austria/tirol
[14:53] <eespln> rosa_ : what do you mean by 'easy to old people'
[14:54] <cfhowlett_> rosa_ there are high visibility themes included with xubuntu
[14:55] <rosa_> right... in that way... big buttons..
[14:55] <eespln> use xubuntu's built in accessibility
[14:56] <rosa_> where can i find the temes?
[14:56] <eespln> hang on, just starting up my xubuntu laptop
[14:57] <cfhowlett_> rosa_ system > settings > settings manager > accessibility
[14:57] <rosa_> great people :)
[15:00] <rosa_> what is the best way to move a window.. the handpointer comes not verry often
[15:01] <rosa_> and the windowhead is most of the time not visible.. normally windows coud be moved, with clik and hold in the windowhead... anybody understand my question?
[15:03] <rosa_> or is here in xubunte only the way to klick at the menuarrow left on the top at a window.. and select move in the windowmenu
[15:03] <rosa_> ?
[15:09] <eespln> hold alt and drag the window around, rosa_
[15:13] <deshipu> rosa_: hold down alt
[15:13] <deshipu> rosa_: and klick and drag anywhere in the window
[15:14] <deshipu> rosa_: you can also move it with keyboard, the shortcuts are in the window manager settings
[16:42] <rosa_> thanks! Good Job!
[19:15] <yoLo_> guys, is there anyways i can reduce my screen size without changing my resolution screen ?
[19:16] <yoLo_> i know this can be on the PS3, when ubuntu is installed for the PPC architecture
[19:28] <starrats> good afternoon folks!  What is the app on 14.04 to lengthen the time that the desktop stays on, I forgot havent used it for a long time.
[19:28] <Hedgework> starrats: I'm sorry, what do you mean by "the time that the desktop stays on" ??
[19:29] <Hedgework> starrats: are you trying to configure ACPI (power management) or maybe the screen saver?
[19:29] <ObrienDave> you mean like turning off the screen?
[19:31] <starrats> default is a 5 or 10 minute length before it the screen goes black I want to extend that time
[19:32] <ObrienDave> power manager in settings menu
[19:32] <ObrienDave> click on a/c or battery then monitor tab
[19:34] <xubuntu970> ciao
[19:35] <xubuntu970> ho bisogno di aiuto
[19:35] <ObrienDave> !it | xubuntu970
[20:28] <starrats> Well I solved the problem, for awhile at least, I hard wired my laptop to my router and turned off wifi.


[00:03] <kiwilinux> thank you alkisg just asking because my daughter has a acer E1 laptop which is 2 years old and she is currently on 17.04
[00:04] <v3ritas> I guess I got lucky. I have a Lenovo Y70 & fortunately had no BIOS issues
[00:46] <ubuntu-mate> hi there
[10:06] <icezhang> a
[13:12] <mate|7967> como puedo cambiar la resolución de la pantalla?
[13:12] <diogenes_> mate|7967, | !es
[13:12] <diogenes_> !es
[13:12] <mate|7967> gracias
[13:49] <onio> Hi I am having problem with Bluetooth intermittently not working. I have think I am narrowed it down to some "bin" files not being loaded.
[13:49] <onio> see dmesg during a "work/not working" session https://paste.ubuntu.com/26285299/
[13:50] <onio> I am running Ubuntu mate 16.04
[13:56] <alkisg> onio: kernel problems are not a matter of desktop environment, so better ask in #ubuntu, where there are more people
[13:56] <alkisg> The kernel is the same in all ubuntu versions
[13:56] <alkisg> mate is about the graphical components that you see after you log in
[13:57] <onio> alkisg: thanks
[20:24] <ya7y4> salut  ya des fr ?
[20:25] <alkisg> !fr
[20:25] <ya7y4> thanks you =)
[20:26] <alkisg> You're welcome
[23:23] <jimmy_> hi


[01:43] <rob^> a few changes to the faq guide I take it..
[01:55] <mgalvin> yup, and i've got a few more comming soon
[02:03] <rob^> how many new entities are you making?
[02:12] <mgalvin> a bunch, not sure exactly, one for each of the default gnome menu entries, at least the System menu for now
[02:13] <mgalvin> and i am using them in the faqguide and other docs too
[02:15] <rob^> yeah, I just saw an example on the mailing list, much nicer
[02:20] <mgalvin> i just emailed another faqguide patch to the list
[02:20] <mgalvin> once someone (jeffsch, froud, mdke) commits it, feel free to work on it
[02:20] <mgalvin> i am done with the faqguide for tonight
[02:22] <rob^> yeah.. I'm about to go out, so np
[04:35] <mgalvin> good night all
[08:03] <froud> African Greetings
[08:10] <Burgundavia> salut
[08:10] <Burgundavia> my machine boots again!
[08:13] <rob^> howdy
[08:18] <jsgotangco> salut
[10:14] <jsgotangco> hello
[10:54] <jsgotangco> does anyone remember our toolchain listing?
[03:16] <mgalvin> hi all
[03:21] <mdke> hi mgalvin, all
[03:23] <mgalvin> hi mdke
[03:23] <mdke> how's it going?
[03:23] <mgalvin> pretty good, working
[03:29] <mdke> cool
[03:50] <mdke> mgalvin, how are we looking on that commit account?
[03:50] <mdke> hi gtaylor
[03:51] <gtaylor> hey mdke
[03:51] <gtaylor> Just got rained on bigtime by the Dennis remnants
[03:51] <mdke> ?
[03:51] <mgalvin> mdke, still waiting... :-/
[03:52] <mgalvin> i haven't heard anything
[03:52] <mdke> henrik said he added it to the enormous list of things he needs elmo to do
[03:54] <mgalvin> ok, well i guess i'll just keep mail bombing the list for now ;)
[03:54] <mdke> mgalvin, its great work you're doing :)
[03:55] <mgalvin> at least they know about it, patience is a virtue
[03:55] <mdke> yeah i agree
[03:55] <mgalvin> thanks
[03:56] <mgalvin> i'll probably roll my changes into fewer emails, for example i'm gonna add some more menus soon, but i'll send them all in one email
[03:57] <mgalvin> where it makes sense anyway
[03:58] <mdke> perhaps even do em in one patch
[03:58] <mdke> i don't think that is necessarily bad, if you prefer it that way
[04:00] <mgalvin> i can do that too, where it makes sense to do so, jeffsch or froud had mentioned that its prefered having seperate patches in case something needs to be rolled back, its easier to track that way
[04:01] <mdke> yes that is true
[06:00] <rob^> hey froud
[06:01] <froud> hi
[06:01] <rob^> maybe you can help me..
[06:01] <froud> i'll try
[06:01] <rob^> I'm getting this when trying to find and import my gpg key in Lauchpad: Key was claimed, sending email to :.At least one UID should be validated to get the key imported as yours.
[06:01] <rob^> any ideas?
[06:01] <froud> hmmm, no
[06:02] <rob^> apparently I may need to be part of the "web trust"
[06:02] <froud> I know nothing about LP
[06:02] <rob^> ah ok thanks anyway ")
[06:13] <mdke> rob^, who has signed your key?
[06:13] <rob^> as is keyservers?
[06:13] <rob^> in^
[06:13] <mdke> rob^, erm...
[06:13] <mdke> ok here is how it works
[06:13] <mdke> launchpad imports your key from keyservers
[06:14] <mdke> you need to upload it to a keyserver for others to get it from the web
[06:14] <mdke> gpg --send-keys your_key_id
[06:14] <mdke> rob^, key signing is something different
[06:14] <rob^> yes, I have already uploaded it to keyserver.ubuntu.com
[06:14] <mdke> good
[06:15] <mdke> rob^, when someone meets you and you confirm your identity and your key, they can sign it, showing that they trust it
[06:15] <rob^> ah ok, so I need it signed by someone in ubuntu's web of trust?
[06:15] <rob^> yeah
[06:16] <mdke> rob^, i don't know if you need to be in the web of trust to upload the key to launchpad
[06:16] <mdke> i don't think so, because I'm not, and I uploaded mine
[06:16] <rob^> the guys in #launchpad suggested I file a bug report
[06:17] <mdke> okay
[06:17] <mdke> they would know :)
[06:17] <rob^> yeah. figures I guess :)
[06:40] <mgalvin> rob^, ping
[06:47] <mdke> froud, ello?
[06:47] <mgalvin> rob^, did you file that launchpad bug, i could not find it, i also have had this same problem and would like to see it fixed, i can file it if you can't right now
[06:56] <judax> greets
[06:56] <mdke> hey judax
[06:56] <mgalvin> hi judax
[06:56] <judax> hey guys
[07:17] <froud> mdke: hey
[07:18] <mdke> y0
[07:18] <froud> anyone know what installation methods will be supported for 5.10
[07:18] <mdke> froud, just calling to find out what the xpointer situation is
[07:18] <froud> fixed dude
[07:18] <mdke> cool
[07:18] <mdke> thanks
[07:18] <froud> try make ug
[07:19] <froud> anyone know what installation methods will be supported for 5.10?
[07:19] <mgalvin> i think all the current plus the quick install
[07:19] <froud> what about TFTP
[07:20] <froud> NFS
[07:20] <froud> SMB
[07:20] <mgalvin> i think those are all covered as a general Network Installtion type
[07:20] <froud> But are they supported?
[07:21] <mgalvin> we can double check the devs
[07:23] <froud> sure
[07:23] <mgalvin> i just asked on -devel
[07:23] <mgalvin> we'll see what they say
[07:26] <mgalvin> i am pretty sure kickstart will also be supported
[07:29] <mgalvin> froud
[07:29] <mgalvin> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch02s02.html
[07:31] <mgalvin> the officially supported installation methods for breezy are the same as hoary
[07:38] <froud> k
[07:43] <mdke> what is the difference between those docs and ours?
[07:43] <froud> that manual is debian install guide ubuntusized
[07:44] <froud> one of the devs does it
[07:44] <mdke> by Kamion i guess?
[07:44] <froud> dunno
[07:44] <mdke> so what is the difference between that and our docs?
[07:45] <mdke> generally speaking
[07:45] <froud> that doc is totally comprehensive
[07:45] <froud> something a new user will be confused with
[07:46] <mdke> ok i see
[07:46] <mdke> but good reference i guess
[07:46] <froud> we mostly aim a bridging
[07:46] <froud> yes, many such resources
[08:42] <Seveas> anyone around?
[08:42] <froud> mmmHmmm
[08:42] <Seveas> wasn't manning the evil publisher that wouldn't play nice..?
[08:42] <froud> yes, why
[08:43] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/497
[08:43] <Seveas> check that one
[08:43] <Seveas> your opinions on what to do..?
[08:44] <froud> go for it
[08:44] <froud> they want you to be a reviewer
[08:45] <Seveas> so no objections from the docteam are expected?
[08:45] <froud> no
[08:45] <Seveas> ok
[08:45] <froud> you can do what you like
[08:45] <Seveas> don't want to step on the feets of the docteam :0
[08:45] <Seveas> :)
[08:46] <froud> no a few of us had a beef with the way they were pitching people
[08:46] <froud> but that was resolved
[08:46] <Seveas> ok
[08:46] <Seveas> great
[08:59] <mgalvin> hmm, i missed that, it just says [Removed]
[08:59] <mdke> me too
[08:59] <froud> Seveas has been asked to be a reviewer on a book
[08:59] <froud> cool
[09:00] <Seveas> yeah, I removed it again
[09:00] <Seveas> no point in having someones e-mail on a public site
[09:00] <mgalvin> understood
[09:00] <mgalvin> cool
[09:01] <Seveas> but that was the quickest way of showing it without flooding :)
[10:08] <Seveas> hmm
[10:08] <Seveas> an ubuntu booc written in Word
[10:08] <Seveas> odd :)
[10:09] <mdke> worse than odd...
[10:21] <mgalvin> which is the offending doc?
[10:24] <Seveas> the TOC manning sent me to review
[10:25] <Seveas> but I guess it's just a quick mockup of the plans
[10:25] <Seveas> and that's about what word is good for :)
[10:28] <froud> Seveas: you will probably find that the doc was written in OOo Writer and saved to MS Word so that the publisher, who does not use Linux, can open it.
[10:29] <froud> I often have to do the same thing with my clients
[10:29] <Seveas> ahh
[10:29] <Seveas> that explains
[10:33] <mdke> pah
[10:33] <mdke> pdf anyday
[10:34] <froud> Doesn't help if you want people to edit and make comments
[10:34] <froud> mdke: xpointers working for you?
[10:36] <froud> chaps kubuntu-docs-5.10-0.2_all.deb was uploaded today ... yay!!
[10:36] <mgalvin> woohoo
[10:36] <mdke> froud, yeah its working afaics, i was just opening it now to see if I could tidy things up
[10:37] <froud> cool
[10:44] <mgalvin> is anyone doing the ubuntu-docs packaging?
[10:44] <froud> you're welcome
[10:44] <mdke> not yet
[10:44] <mdke> mgalvin, you would be a good candidate :)
[10:44] <mgalvin> i'll do it
[10:44] <froud> btw I heard that elmo is at DebConf
[10:44] <froud> in fi
[10:44] <mdke> yes he is
[10:44] <mgalvin> ah
[10:45] <mgalvin> so he ran away from real work ;)
[10:45] <mdke> but that doesn't mean he doesn't get any work done :) he probably has more time than he did in the UK
[10:45] <froud> hehe
[10:45] <mgalvin> i know, just kidding
[10:48] <mgalvin> so i'll take a peak at the package stuff for ubuntu-doc, maybe we can get that stuff in soon too
[10:49] <mdke> no biggie
[10:49] <mdke> but cool if you wanna do it :)
[11:01] <mgalvin> gotta run
[11:01] <mgalvin> l8r all
[11:07] <froud> later dudes
[11:13] <mdke> damn