[00:01] <CyberDems> think I found it :] seems this distro renamed udevadm to udevadm.upgrade and replaced the original with this script, because it was intended for chroot only
[00:03] <G3ntLm1> h
[00:11] <c4ptnh0wdy> hey can someone help me on how to create a folder within ~/Downloads/ i tried to go to the folder i want to create folder in and typed in "mk ./lpthw/" and "mk /lpthw/" then tried "mk --help" and "mk -man" which neither existed. PS: is there a site that offers this info up? i know a handful of necessary commands within the terminal and im learning python scripting but can (obviously) use a website that could help me to learn the
[00:11] <c4ptnh0wdy> BASH commands on a linux dist running unity/debian
[00:12] <tgm4883> c4ptnh0wdy: to make a dir, you want mkdir
[00:12] <c4ptnh0wdy> oh ok, let me try that..thank you
[00:13] <G3ntLm1> man something
[00:14] <MonkeyDust> c4ptnh0wdy  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[00:14] <c4ptnh0wdy> MonkeyDust: ty
[00:14] <JohnnyMonday> Cool celebrity of the week!
[00:16] <c4ptnh0wdy> ive been using linux since win10...its made so messed up that its easier for my grandma to operate than me anymore as compared to the versions that ran DOS in the background so you could get out of situations windows corruped or bugged and undermine it with the proper knowledge of MSDOS. Ubuntu is awesome, hotkeys, terminal commands...reminds me of the good ole days
[00:18] <G3ntLm1> Yes its awsome
[00:18] <Guest6318> hello
[00:21] <energizer> I have a directory tree where i keep and save files for my big web application. Where in the file system hierarchy should this go?
[00:23] <c4ptnh0wdy> ok now to move a directory it looks like i type "mv folder -t destinationfolder" do i have to type entire directory of each folder or can i move a folder within ~/Downloads by being at the dir the folder is in, in this case "c:~/Downloads$" and type "mv foldertomove -t destinationdirectoryfolderwithout~/Downloads"
[00:24] <JohnnyMonday> Nailed it@
[00:24] <G3ntLm1> OMG
[00:24] <G3ntLm1> oh my Gentoo
[00:26] <temp12321> hellp
[00:26] <jedininjarob> hey guys how would you with the fewest possible commands change:    that/D,C,v,r       <<<string   ,   into   >>>    that/1,2,3,4,    with D=1,C=2,v=3,r=4....    ???
[00:31] <tgm4883> jedininjarob: huh?
[00:31] <pavlos> echo "D,C,v,r" | tr '[DCvr]' '[1234]'
[00:31] <pavlos> echo "that/D,C,v,r" | tr '[DCvr]' '[1234]'
[00:34] <G3ntLm1> yes throw it
[00:35] <G3ntLm1> what a pitty
[00:36] <lunixc128> Hello. Does anyone know how to make mplayer automatically reconnect during the recording of an MMS stream when the connection gets reset?
[00:37] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: I am confused by the windows speak " c: " . Are you adressing the ubuntu directory from Windows ?
[00:38] <jedininjarob> ok good sudjestion thank you
[00:38] <jedininjarob> pavlos: thank you
[00:39] <lunixc128> Or any other idea for recording an MMS stream while using a function to reconnect automatically?
[00:40] <temp12321> exit
[00:41] <c4ptnh0wdy> Bashing-om: sorry for the confusion, i was trying to type the dir i was in eg... ~: in the terminal so from default home or C:~: i did cd Downloads...so the prompt in terminal shows C:~/Downloads$
[00:41] <c4ptnh0wdy> and im running ubuntu as a second partition so no windows interaction between the two
[00:42] <jedininjarob> pavlos: what if the string didnt alway falow the 1234 sequence what about    3412  or something...tr would just replace it with no stopping ,i need it to replace every ( D,  with a 1,    ect.. no matter where in the string it is..
[00:43] <c4ptnh0wdy> from there im trying to get it to recognize the dir im trying to move to my new folder lpthw like this, and it isnt quite working "mv ./Learn Python The Hard Way_files -t ./lpthw"
[00:44] <c4ptnh0wdy> i am missing a syntax or something because it isnt recognizeing the file, im typing it in case sensitive because i know the BASH requires the right case
[00:44] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: Your prompt, still do not understand where you are comming from . My prompt " sysop@1404mini:~/Downloads$ " where my Present Working Directory is "Downloads" .
[00:44] <amir107> guys look this video it helped me with windows 10 update it is better than the other one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL_ife-TNdQ&feature=youtu.be
[00:44] <amir107> sorry wrong channel
[00:45] <c4ptnh0wdy> and i assume that ./ is a substitution for the dir you are in
[00:45] <c4ptnh0wdy> both folders are in ~/Downloads
[00:46] <pavlos> jedininjarob, like this? echo "that/D,C,v,D,D,D,r" | tr '[DCvr]' '[1234]'
[00:46] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: Part of the problem is " Learn Python The Hard Way_files " .. linux sees this as 5 files . a space in linux is a deliminator . There are ways to deal with these spaces, however .
[00:47] <c4ptnh0wdy> in the terminal, you open it up and depending on your computers name, and the username you set up, it starts you in home in the terminal...so specifically in my case... "superuser@superuser-Satellite-S50-C:~$
[00:47] <jedininjarob> pavlos: sweet i though that whats you ment... thank you
[00:47] <c4ptnh0wdy> ok, yes it was looking for a folder named Learn
[00:49] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: With Downlods as your PWD. do you see your target directory with terminal command ' ls -al ' ?
[00:50] <c4ptnh0wdy> i see it w/ ls and no args, but ill try it with those
[00:50] <jedininjarob> pavlos: there a problem...hicup i think.... should ever the string change like   that to Dang or Donut, it would change to.....i think we may need something that looks at the second feild only or strips the word in front first....hmmm any ideas?
[00:51] <lordcirth> jedininjarob, to get specific fields, you can try "cut"
[00:51] <jedininjarob> echo "Donut/D,C,v,D,D,D,r" | tr '[DCvr]' '[1234]'   =1onut/1,2,3,1,1,1,4
[00:52] <pavlos> jedininjarob, which delimiter separates words (/). which numbers (,) ?
[00:53] <jedininjarob> cut with    cut -d "/"  ?
[00:53] <c4ptnh0wdy> yes has the folder listed in blue w/ spaces, if it helps the folder is for viewing an html doc while offline, and im just trying to basically downloads all the files from http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/
[00:53] <jedininjarob> pavlos   yes
[00:53] <jedininjarob> that dosent change
[00:53] <jedininjarob> word/,n,u,m, b,de,r
[00:54] <jedininjarob> formate
[00:54] <jedininjarob> sorry,     word/n,u,m,b,e,r,
[00:55] <c4ptnh0wdy> and the stuff next to the folder w/ the -al shows drwxr-xr-x
[00:56] <pavlos> jedininjarob, you may need 2 commands, first to change word/n,u,m,b -> w/n,u,m,b and then the tr to substitute
[00:57] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: K . linux handles relative directory paths : one could - with Downloads as the PWD - do ' cp -R " Learn Python The Hard Way_files" folderB/ ' Where my folderB is your actual target directory residing in the directory downloads.
[00:58] <Guest96042> can anyone give me idea on how to change my guest username here ..kind of new
[00:58] <c4ptnh0wdy> Bashing-om: so instead of mv or move, i want to do "cp -R" or copy recursive
[00:58] <_44trent_> is it a bad idea for me to update to linux 4.8 to try and get AMDGPU working with my GPU?
[00:58] <c4ptnh0wdy> ?
[00:59] <jedininjarob> some thing like  cut -d'/'   ?
[00:59] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: Well ,, preference .. I prefer to copy any omportant file .. and once sure of the result remove the original . Just my preference . mv does not allow for errors .
[01:00] <c4ptnh0wdy> Guest96042: your username on here (irc), go to freenode and type in the command "/nick username" if it is not a registered username, it will change you from showing as guest#### to whatever you type after /nik
[01:00] <Guest96042> esdf
[01:02] <c4ptnh0wdy> Bashing-om: i think we share that preference, i was just making sure i understood everything you were saying (cp means copy, -r = recursive) aslo is PWD something like "Prompt Directory"?
[01:03] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: So far so good .. PWD as shown above Presnt Working Directory .
[01:04] <pavlos> jedininjarob, echo "Donut/c,v,f" | sed 's/\(\w\)\w*/\1/g'
[01:05] <jedininjarob> i think i got it...   echo "danginggo/D,C,v,r," | cut -d'/' -f2 | tr '[DCvr]' '[1234]'
[01:05] <jedininjarob> 1,2,3,4,
[01:05] <jedininjarob> yup
[01:06] <jedininjarob> ok now how do i recombine then now...
[01:06] <jedininjarob> hmmm
[01:06] <jedininjarob> thank you pavlos
[01:06] <jedininjarob> you sett me in the right track i think
[01:06] <pavlos> jedininjarob, I thought you needed the 1st chat of the word, try the sed example I sent
[01:06] <jedininjarob> ok
[01:07] <pavlos> char
[01:07] <pavlos> Donut/c,v,f -> D/c,v,f
[01:07] <c4ptnh0wdy> Bashing-om: its still giving me the error..paraphrasing cp: cannot start ' Learning Python The Hard Way_files' no such file or directory. i also tried typing the entire directory ~/Downloads/Learn Python The Hard Way_files and its acting as though the dir doesnt exist
[01:07] <jedininjarob> hmmm...the word in front need to not change only the tags in the second feild
[01:08] <jedininjarob> the first one you gave me worked
[01:08] <jedininjarob> now i need to recombine them
[01:08] <jedininjarob> word/1,2,3,4,
[01:08] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: You understand the quoting of the string Learn Python The Hard Way_files , right ?
[01:08] <c4ptnh0wdy> Bashing-om: oh for future coms are the options you gave me for list called arguments, switches, or what? im refering to -al or -a -l after list
[01:09] <c4ptnh0wdy> yes i put it in quotes
[01:09] <pavlos> jedininjarob, echo "Donut/c,v,f" | sed 's/\(\w\)\w*/\1/g' | tr '[DCvr]' '[1234]'
[01:09] <c4ptnh0wdy> let me wrestle w/ the syntax for a bit, im sure its some tiny mistake in how im typing it in, and thanks for your patience w/ a newb...i really appreciate it
[01:10] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: what is the target directory you are attempting to copy "Learn Python The Hard Way_files" to ? .. maybe we need to adjust for the target ?
[01:10] <jedininjarob> sorry pavlos that isnt what i need i think
[01:10] <jedininjarob> it changes the word
[01:11] <jedininjarob> but we are on right track i think thought,,
[01:11] <c4ptnh0wdy> target dir is ~/Downloads/lpthw/
[01:11] <c4ptnh0wdy> both are within ~/Downloads, both are folders
[01:11] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: in a command the descriptor ' argument' or 'switch' either is acceptable . both mean the same .
[01:12] <c4ptnh0wdy> ok thanks for clearing that language up for me :)
[01:13] <pavlos> jedininjarob, give me the source and dest string
[01:14] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: Not to know is not a sin .. we were all new to linux at one time . None of us were born  knowing what we know .
[01:14] <c4ptnh0wdy> ok awesome i got it...
[01:14] <jedininjarob> source=   that/D,C,v,r,    needed=    that/1,2,3,4,
[01:16] <c4ptnh0wdy> Bashing-om: heres what i typed exactly from PWD ~/Downloads: cp -r "./Learn Python The Hard Way_files" -t "./lpthw" it gave no errors so i did "cd lpthw" then ls -la, the file was copied
[01:16] <c4ptnh0wdy> now how does one remove the origional file from downloads?  rm?
[01:16] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: Though often not required .. I do like to be explit with paths ..in that I explit;y tell the system that I am dealing with directoroes .. a traling slash (/) on the folder name declars this as a directory .
[01:17] <pavlos> jedininjarob, echo "Donut/c,v,f" | cut -d'/' -f2 | tr '[DCvr]' '[1234]'
[01:17] <jedininjarob> yup thats what i got
[01:18] <jedininjarob> now to brind feild 1 and 2 together after processing
[01:19] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: When you try rm <directory> the sytem tells you " no can do" the directory is not empty .. so when you know what is in the directory, and are happy to delete the directory and ALL contents ,.. the (R) switch the the rm command .
[01:19] <d13337> don't you need to also use the -f flag if the directory isn't empty?
[01:19] <d13337> rm -rf ./<non-empty-directory>
[01:19] <c4ptnh0wdy> Bashing-om: so your saying instead of being lazy and using "./" go ahead and type the directory long form as in "~/Downloads/Learn Python The Hard Way_files"?
[01:20] <c4ptnh0wdy> i did the rm -r...it worked...not sure what the -f switch is
[01:20] <d13337> force
[01:20] <c4ptnh0wdy> ohh, thanks
[01:22] <c4ptnh0wdy> in this case it deleted it and the files within, now i just have to move the html file to the same directory...givin what mr Bashing has taught me, im hoping i can do that without asking more questions...about to put it to the test lol
[01:23] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: in that ^ the system will tell you that you are nuts ! . relative paths / the expression " ./ " says this thing right here in the PWD . lets say the original directory is Learn Python The Hard Way_files , and the destination to be copied to is lpthw . then cp -R "Learn Python The Hard Way_files" /lpthw ..... is all that is needed .
[01:24] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: A great teacher : http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Arguments .. is Greg Wooledge .
[01:25] <youtubepromoter> hello people please can you check this youtube channel out :)
[01:25] <youtubepromoter> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFkIoSv9Qzs3lvdIB3PNjMA
[01:26] <d13337> youtubepromoter's nick checks out
[01:26] <i-> o.o
[01:26] <c4ptnh0wdy> Bashing-om: thank you so much, these copy move and remove commands are essential to understand and i realize its some real simple stuff to a lot of people, i really appreciate you holding my hand through it till i got it right, a lot of people get annoyed
[01:28] <c4ptnh0wdy> Bashing-om: i bookmarked the arguments page you sent...gonna definately check that out because i know very little about args other than -la for ls and -r (recursive for most args)
[01:28] <Bashing-om> d13337: that 'f' in rm -rf is (F)orce, selcom needed and only when there is no other recourse . to Force the system .
[01:29] <Bashing-om> !terminal | c4ptnh0wdy
[01:29] <d13337> I mean, short of emptying a directory file by file, then going to ../ and rm -r ./<folder>
[01:29] <d13337> then rm -rf <path-to-non-empty-directory> is the quickest, easiest way to rm a non-empty folder
[01:30] <c4ptnh0wdy> Will be much easier to run my python scripts from the same PWD..already wrote them and ran them (up to exercise 21" in windows, but thought it would be good practice to try again from scratch on linux so i can run python scripts in both os
[01:32] <c4ptnh0wdy> currently learning the boolean logic, but really its a refresher, the only previous scripting ive done was .html in the 90's before flash and java was all over every page and whatever you would call the programming language in a Texas Instruments TI-83 calculator (made programs to prompt for two givin values in algebra equations like ohms law and acceleration due to gravity...made college math a breeze)
[01:33] <c4ptnh0wdy> that one worked off of labels and display type commands "Disp D" Lbl 1"
[01:37] <c4ptnh0wdy> join #freenode
[01:37] <c4ptnh0wdy> woops
[01:40] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: My take ; once you are confortable with the terminal .. and your desire is a good foundation in linux : http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FullBashGuide .
[01:41] <c4ptnh0wdy> Bashing-om: thank you again, bookmarked thatone
[01:41] <ceon> Hi
[01:42] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: :) .. that will keep you occupied for a while .
[01:42] <ceon> Does any of u work with wine?
[01:42] <c4ptnh0wdy> internet security question, is my IP address on display for anyone who types /whois for me or does freenode automatiacally mask you? i know it gives me the info if i /whois myself
[01:42] <Bashing-om> ceon: There is a channel devoted to wine .. #wine .
[01:42] <ceon> okay thanks
[01:43] <ceon> Im new ti ICQ sorry
[01:43] <c4ptnh0wdy> Bashing-om: i love to learn...i have no real reason to learn python scripting, but my mind is always racing i find it constructive to learn things that interest me even if they seem daunting
[01:43] <Paul_1967> is there a room for ubuntu-mate?
[01:43] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: If ya want to mask your IP .. ask in #freenode for a cloak .
[01:43] <ceon> but besides visible and IP?
[01:43] <ceon> how does it work with a service like ICQ?
[01:44] <ceon> I think u have to be some admin?
[01:44] <ceon> most stuff in net is "jusr" redicte by rifgts lol*
[01:45] <ceon> rights
[01:45] <ceon> simple chmod
[01:45] <ceon> anyhow
[01:46] <ceon> But I do not like to work as root on machine
[01:46] <c4ptnh0wdy> Bashing-om: im kinda new to IRC's more complicated functions, but thanks for the help. if there is such a thing as a friends list feel free to add me and private message anytime if just to shoot the breeze. i have registered this nick
[01:46] <ceon> no u englis is to perfect c4
[01:46] <ceon> but thanks
[01:47] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: Here we are just one (mostly) happy family .
[01:47] <ceon> Mine graphic looks still like shit
[01:48] <ceon> two screens 1 KVM
[01:48] <Bashing-om> language | ceon
[01:48] <ceon> usal  seems to be simple
[01:48] <ceon> mine native language is Styrian
[01:48] <c4ptnh0wdy> Bashing-om: alrighty, well ill let you help some other folks and stick around incase i can help someone for the night
[01:49] <ceon> Austria - like Falco, Mozart and Dr. Semmelweiß?
[01:49] <ceon> who the fuck cares?
[01:49] <Bashing-om> c4ptnh0wdy: Good thought . Hang loose . One can waste time worse elsewhere .
[01:50] <ceon> Debian language is english
[01:50] <ceon> the code is lol*  hmm
[01:50] <ceon> C ?
[01:50] <ceon> C is okay
[01:50] <ceon> its straight and always does what human say ;-)
[01:52] <ceon> Next week I have to buy some software
[01:52] <ceon> windows 10
[01:53] <ceon> Mine son in law s laptop need a service :-)
[01:53] <ceon> he ai nt like linux - to bad.
[01:56] <ceon> I got problems with graphix and xrandr
[01:57] <ceon> everytime I boot mine pc
[01:57] <ceon> it will just regonize on screen
[01:57] <ceon> and the othert is on 1024xshit
[01:57] <ceon> :-)
[01:58] <YankDownUnder> ceon: You can create a script with xrandr...
[01:58] <ceon> okay
[01:58] <ceon> could u help me with it?
[01:59] <YankDownUnder> ceon: I go through this every time I boot - I have a dual monitor setup - and in order to properly deal with the resolution and layout, I have installed "arandr" (a GUI for xrandr) and created a script to reset my configuration(s)
[01:59] <YankDownUnder> ceon: I can only try my best, mate.
[01:59] <ceon> I allready dis and plugged again min Belkom KVM
[01:59] <ceon> thanks
[02:00] <ceon> arandr :-)
[02:00] <YankDownUnder> ceon: You shouldn't have to deal with plugging/unplugging hardware - as that is not the issue - the issue is the software and OS - so you need to work those out - and you'll end up with a happy situation.
[02:00] <ceon> you seem to be very wise
[02:00] <YankDownUnder> ceon: What is the desktop you're using - Unity, Mate, Cinnamon, XFce, LxDE?
[02:00] <YankDownUnder> ceon: No...I just have broken many things :)
[02:00] <ceon> gnome?
[02:00] <ceon> I surg a Kali
[02:00] <ceon> f
[02:01] <ceon> it worked so wonderfull
[02:01] <YankDownUnder> ceon: Ok...fair enough...here's the easy go -> Open a terminal, and type: sudo apt-get install arandr
[02:01] <ceon> and git almost all codes I need for university installed :-(
[02:01] <ceon> thanks
[02:03] <YankDownUnder> ceon: After you install "arandr" - start the application, set the primary monitor, set the resolutions you wish, then when you do "Save" - you'll see that you can generate a script (bash script) that will force the configuration - so, you can set that script in your "Autostart" folder/directory - and it will set up your monitors for you when you login to Gnome3, mate.
[02:04] <ceon> I got no rights this account
[02:04] <ceon> but I ll try it thanks
[02:06] <YankDownUnder> ceon: You do definitely need to have the permissions to reset the monitor configurations...
[02:06] <iamrohit7> i am trying to set the desktop background of ubuntu unity using a python script. using gsettings, i was able to do this. but how do i apply effects like fill, stretch and tile as found in the desktop preferences from the script?
[02:06] <bre> Hi, is there anyway to make a cloud-image local mirror?
[02:07] <ceon> yes or the cabel ;-)
[02:07] <ceon> Last days a had a lotta trouble at all with HP engines
[02:07] <zhipeng> a
[02:08] <ceon> fuck bios?
[02:08] <ceon> Update and after update they cant boot cause look like for frontfan they ai nt haveß!
[02:08] <eelstrebor> i have a few questions out what xsensors (ubuntu) is giving me - how do a present a screenshot to this group so that you can see what i'm seeing?
[02:09] <ceon> any how
[02:09] <ceon> Thank u for help
[02:09] <YankDownUnder> eelstrebor: http://past.ubuntu.com
[02:09] <ceon> I love Debian
[02:09] <YankDownUnder> ceon: Peace
[02:09] <ceon> and I hope Debian loves me to  ;-)
[02:09] <ceon> too
[02:10] <ceon> Peace
[02:10] <trism> iamrohit7: if you used the org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri key, there are other keys in the same namespace, picture-options for example, you can use gsettings range to get the allowed values
[02:10] <daemonl055> anybody know how i could prevent the flickering on my screen when i take out the plug?
[02:11] <YankDownUnder> daemonl055: not quite sure what you mean...you really shouldn't be plugging/unplugging screens when the power is on...
[02:11] <ceon> Yank would u scripz in python or do I have to lern some strange bash cash lol*
[02:11] <eelstrebor> YankDownUnder, is this for an image file? (jpeg)
[02:11] <YankDownUnder> eelstrebor: Yes
[02:12] <kikero> Hello.
[02:12] <daemonl055> yankdownunder its a latop i just want to know how to fix this problem
[02:13] <ceon> laptop Acer?
[02:13] <ceon> lenovo?
[02:13] <ceon> HP?
[02:13] <kikero> I have Xubuntu 16.10 LTS. How do I install MATE w/o reinstalling Ubuntu Mate?
[02:13] <daemonl055> yandownunder its a asus
[02:14] <YankDownUnder> daemonl055: Which screen is flickering - the laptop screen, yes?
[02:14] <ceon> most laptops are real bitches - at least if they older as 3 years
[02:14] <daemonl055> yes when i take out the cable
[02:14] <ceon> besides u good a high quality alien ware or stuff
[02:15] <ceon> so u akku is broken?
[02:15] <YankDownUnder> daemonl055: What happens if you switch to a console and then right back to the desktop? (i.e., CTRL+ALT+F1, then CTRL+ALT-F7)
[02:15] <ceon> U tested this?
[02:15] <ceon> I need  xrandr
[02:16] <ceon> It makes me crazy lol*
[02:16] <daemonl055> yankdownunder i rather not use the cli
[02:16] <YankDownUnder> ceon: xrandr is already on the system --> you just need to install "arandr" as a GUI to "set" the configurations and generate a script
[02:16] <ceon> mine hardware is very old
[02:16] <ceon> I need new one!
[02:16] <ceon> the last three days
[02:17] <bazhang> !ot | ceon
[02:17] <ceon> mine windows  hmm  had an headacke
[02:17] <YankDownUnder> daemonl055: By switching to the console and back, not logging in - just switching for a second - refreshes the screen...
[02:17] <ceon> I tried with wine to install
[02:17] <daemonl055> hoq do i switch back
[02:17] <bazhang> ceon please take chit chat somewhere else, this is support only
[02:17] <daemonl055> how*
[02:17] <ceon> mine embroiderysoftware on Ubuntu
[02:17] <ceon> anyhow
[02:18] <ceon> worked
[02:18] <ceon> include dongle
[02:18] <YankDownUnder> daemonl055: I just told you. CTRL+ALT+F1 to the first TTY, then CTRL+ALT+F7 to get back to the "desktop"
[02:18] <ceon> so I just need some wine config
[02:18] <ceon> zo change some errors import
[02:18] <ceon> anyhow
[02:18] <bazhang> #winehq for that ceon
[02:18] <ceon> bazhang
[02:19] <bazhang> ceon, again, stop the chatting here
[02:19] <ceon> dort habe ich loklaverbot
[02:19] <ceon> I philosoph a lot+
[02:19] <ceon>  so
[02:19] <bazhang> ceon, not here, wrong channel
[02:19] <ceon> Hi bazhang
[02:20] <ceon> are u a specialist?
[02:20] <ceon> can u programm C and Mono?
[02:20] <ceon> and help me a little?
[02:20] <ceon> Ubuntu is cool
[02:20] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic <------ ceon go there
[02:21] <ceon> okay thanks
[02:21] <ceon> how?
[02:21] <ceon> copy paste?
[02:21] <ceon> Im new to ICQ sorry - U got still hopes ;-)
[02:21] <ceon> O
[02:21] <ceon>  i
[02:22] <sarenord> hey what IRC clients is everyone using?
[02:22] <daemonl55> yankdownunder nop doesnt work
[02:22] <ceon> I follow rivers - u foller streams - thats the difference
[02:22] <iamrohit7> trism: thanks, that worked
[02:23] <YankDownUnder> daemonl55: And what if you got into "Displays/Monitors" in settings - does that help in the least?
[02:23] <Sajon> Hello
[02:23] <iamrohit7> trism: where are the docs at?
[02:23] <ceon> no
[02:23] <Sajon> I have a question if you all have a moment.
[02:23] <Ben64> ceon: "/join #ubuntu-offtopic" is how to do it in most clients, do not continue using this channel for other topics besides ubuntu support
[02:23] <ceon> I could restart
[02:23] <sarenord> i got u sajon
[02:23] <sarenord> idk how helpful i'll be
[02:23] <ceon> If I restart "his" brother the windows server
[02:24] <ceon> hmm
[02:24] <ceon> not good
[02:24] <daemonl55> yankdownunder it doesnt have that option
[02:24] <Sajon> On Ubuntu 16.04 the Unity top menu. Is there a way to remove it from my extra monitors?
[02:25] <sarenord> the bar on the left?
[02:25] <trism> iamrohit7: don't know I just listed the keys to see what was there
[02:26] <Sajon> No: The bar on the top.
[02:27] <transhuman> hi is there any way to force ubuntu to rescan for all operating system partitions found on a system and get it to add entries to grub2? It missed ubuntu grub menus on install on a system that has lots of debian partitions
[02:28] <transhuman> I am only able to boot into old partitions not new one
[02:28] <YankDownUnder> daemonl55: You have NO options for changing the displays/monitors at all - in the control centre?  Or could this be residual effect from plugging/unplugging your external monitor...hmm?
[02:31] <i_need_new_nick> !ops ubotty
[02:31] <i_need_new_nick> !ops trolls
[02:31] <sarenord> hey where's the rules in here?
[02:31] <i_need_new_nick> !ops
[02:31] <daemonl55> no i just installed ubuntu 16.04 yesturday so no
[02:32] <i_need_new_nick> there
[02:32] <YankDownUnder> http://ubuttu.com/y/gl
[02:32] <i_need_new_nick> !ops
[02:32] <Ben64> sarenord: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[02:32] <i_need_new_nick> !ops
[02:32] <i_need_new_nick> !ops
[02:32] <transhuman> surprisingly Bashing-om it detected it thanks
[02:32] <i_need_new_nick> !ops
[02:32] <transhuman> rebooting
[02:32] <YankDownUnder> daemonl55: You might want to check to see if you've got the proper graphics driver(s) installed...and make sure your system is updated, too...
[02:32] <daemonl55> how exactly do i do that?
[02:33] <Bashing-om> trism: Bo surprise . Grub is smart .. GRand Unified Bootloader that is is .
[02:33] <YankDownUnder> daemonl55: Check the Software Centre, firstly...
[02:33] <Saklovich> ln -sr storage/app/public public/storage <--- i am running this command on my dev environment, as well as prod, both using same version of ubuntu. dev works as expected, prod creates a link to public that goes on infinitely
[02:33] <daemonl55> what do i search?
[02:33] <Sajon> Does anyone know?
[02:34] <YankDownUnder> daemonl55: The Software Centre will tell you  if you're requiring third party drivers.
[02:34] <Ben64> Sajon: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107583/how-can-i-remove-duplicate-second-unity-launcher-on-a-dual-screen-setup
[02:35] <sarenord> i think i checked that link he's talking about the top bar not the side one
[02:35] <daemonl55> nop i got nothing
[02:36] <Sajon> I am not talking about the launcher. I am wanting to remove the top menu bar at the top of the screen.
[02:36] <sarenord> Ben64: i think i checked that link he's talking about the top bar not the side one
[02:36] <daemonl55> i think the software center is buggy
[02:36] <daemonl55> it took a rebook to show all the available software
[02:36] <daemonl55> i liked the old software center
[02:36] <Ben64> sarenord: ohh
[02:36] <Ben64> Sajon: i don't think it's currently possible
[02:36] <YankDownUnder> daemonl55: Oddly enough it works for thousands and thousands of people...so meanwhile, you can very easily install "synaptic" - the old software centre...
[02:37] <sarenord> Ben64: yeah that's the impression i got
[02:37] <Sajon> Okay... Thanks for your help. God Bless!
[02:38] <sarenord> Sajon: i found a link here http://bit.ly/2bqbA2J
[02:38] <daemonl55> yankdownunder do i tell you the details for you could help me find the drivers
[02:39] <YankDownUnder> daemonl55: It's your machine, you know the hardware, I can only point you in the right direction.
[02:39] <daemonl55> i know the machine
[02:39] <daemonl55> i just want a headstart
[02:40] <sarenord> i sent sajon the link to the wiki page on installing arch and he left... #rekt
[02:40] <YankDownUnder> daemonl55: So you'll know the hardware - the graphics card that's in the machine.
[02:42] <YankDownUnder> daemonl55: If you want to let things "figure it out automatically", there's an easy way to begin by using the terminal - not the "Software Centre"... you open a terminal, and you type: sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ==> then you wait until it's done doing what it's suppsoed to do => then you do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ==> and then, when that's done, reboot...see what that does to the stability of the system...
[02:42] <YankDownUnder> hmm?
[03:10] <bennabiy> What is the package for Xenial for python-xlib? I notice there is not one listed in the listing on launchpad
[03:11] <bennabiy> I am trying to create a branch to pull in upstream patches for my ppa
[03:13] <Bashing-om> !nfo python-xlib trusty
[03:13] <Bashing-om> !info python-xlib trusty
[03:13] <Bashing-om> !info python-xlib xenial
[03:14] <ceon> I m bored as hell
[03:14] <Bashing-om> bennabiy: ^ universe repo enabled ?
[03:14] <chandu20> ceon: go and play video games!
[03:16] <ceon> I m unfortunatly no gamer
[03:16] <bennabiy> Bashing-om: I have the file, I just need to update the source
[03:16] <ceon> O programm some shit
[03:16] <Guest14234> I just got wow to work on ubuntu
[03:16] <ceon> cool
[03:16] <ceon> I love Debian
[03:16] <ceon> :-)
[03:17] <ceon> and Ubuntu is some ckild
[03:17] <chandu20> Guest14234: what you got?
[03:17] <devan> Anyone else with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on an older ATI radeon card getting random freeze-ups when gaming or using any application that needs 3d acceleration?
[03:17] <Bashing-om> bennabiy: :) above my pay grade .
[03:17] <Guest14234> world of warcraft on 16.04 LTS NVidia 750 ti
[03:17] <ceon> Ubuntu is fully cool
[03:17] <chandu20> nice
[03:18] <ceon> mine love to linux startet with Knoppix
[03:18] <devan> did I mention running on mesa drivers..
[03:18] <ceon> devan - je quiter u are - the more u can hear
[03:19] <ceon> I m not quiet
[03:19] <ceon> actuallyx hmm
[03:19] <ceon> linux is a bitch
[03:19] <ceon> and windows is boring :-)
[03:20] <ceon> O love Linux and machines
[03:20] <ceon> so sorry - I love Linux  no human :-)
[03:20] <ceon> 7 Brücken
[03:21] <ceon> and I got deep resüect, even Im a admin, for programmets
[03:21] <ceon> most time :-9
[03:21] <ceon>  :-)
[03:21] <ceon> p
[03:22] <logic1> ls
[03:23] <ceon> ls - la
[03:23] <ceon> I always forget the commands
[03:23] <kubuntu__> Help! Any Live USB Linux Expert?
[03:24] <ceon> and I want fun - before I fall in Komma lol*
[03:24] <ceon> aye3
[03:25] <kubuntu__> any reply?
[03:25] <Anekdotin> ubuntu..whats bvest gpu monitor in terminal?
[03:27] <kubuntu__> How can I transfer a file from a Live USB to a Hard Drive in Linux?
[03:27] <ceon> mount
[03:28] <Anekdotin> how to mount from terminal?>
[03:29] <wolflarson> hello I seem to have some issues updating my ubuntu 16.04 home server
[03:29] <wolflarson> I get 404 for every package I try to download
[03:29] <wolflarson> they seem to try to pull down 16.04.1 packages and only 16.04.2 are in the repo?
[03:29] <FORK-BOMBS> I don't understand olympic gymnastics....
[03:29] <FORK-BOMBS> Since when is spreading your legs considered a respectable way to make a living?
[03:31] <Bashing-om> wolflarson: Pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' . We see if any problem in your sources .
[03:31] <kubuntu__> Why doesn't Live USB let me copy a file from the pen drive to my hard drive?
[03:31] <kubuntu__> I can't use Terminal in Live USB Linux.
[03:32] <Anekdotin> kubuntu permissions or incorrect filesystem on usb
[03:32] <Bashing-om> kubuntu__: Have you tried the GUI file manager with 2 open windows ? easiest way for a new user .
[03:33] <wolflarson> @Bashing-om http://pastebin.com/bgBW4K5U
. It works with Live USB Linux?
[03:35] <Bashing-om> wolflarson: Yep : see: http://ppa.launchpad.net/jpsutton/cockpit/ubuntu/dists/ . xenial is not supported .
[03:35] <wolflarson> thats fine
[03:35] <wolflarson> I am OK with removing that
[03:35] <wolflarson> this issue happened before I added that
[03:35] <Bashing-om> kubuntu__: Yeah .. may have to open the file manager from terminal with elevated priviledges .
. How can I do that? Root privlige?
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[03:37] <Bashing-om> !info libquadmath0
[03:38] <riz0n> On an Ubuntu Server, is there any real advantages to using EXT4 w/ LVM over a plain EXT4 partition? Also, just out of curiosity, is there any advantage to having /boot in a separate partition than in the /root ?? Thanks so much!
[03:40] <Bashing-om> wolflarson: Bunch of othr 404's I can not presently explain . what returns ' ping -c3 us.archive.ubuntu.com ' ?
[03:40] <YankDownUnder> riz0n: LVM allows for dynamically resizing or adding to volumes...but it's more a matter of "resource" and choice...does that make sense? As well, the preference for /boot is entirely up to you - it's residual from "the old days" - where the /boot could be on a completley different drive - and replaced if required...again, it's choice...and resource...
[03:40] <wolflarson> 64 bytes from economy.canonical.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=36.6 ms
[03:40] <wolflarson> Bashing-om:  ^^
[03:40] <YankDownUnder> riz0n: As well, there is #ubuntu-server => nice place to query server based issues
[03:42] <riz0n> YankDownUnder: Thank you so much. When the system is set up, the /root partition will be given 100% of the remaining disk space (minus 1 gb for swap). i can't see any reason to need to adjust the partition size after that.
[03:43] <YankDownUnder> riz0n: Fair enough - logical enough.
[03:44] <wolflarson> Bashing-om:  I feel like apt update is not really pulling in the latest data
[03:45] <wolflarson> but its not giving any errors
[03:45] <Bashing-om> wolflarson: More to the point is ' ping -c3 us.archive.ubuntu.com ' as it is the us.archive you need to talk to .
[03:45] <wolflarson> goes through just fine economy.cononicale.com <IP_ADDRESS> less than 40 ms
[03:47] <energizer> I'm having a lot of issues with apt
[03:47] <energizer> gpg error
[03:47] <energizer> http://paste.openstack.org/show/556764/
[03:47] <Bashing-om> wolflarson: Sorry, mis understanding on my part . Presently I can not explain the 404's on xenial-upfates .
[03:48] <riz0n> YankDownUnder,  I'm finding it is harder to manually configure GRUB on a freshly partitioned LVM partition after restoring the system from a tar backup file made from a second system.
[03:57] <Ansxc> http://askubuntu.com/questions/760615/ubuntu-16-04lts-does-not-boot-after-package-upstart-sysv-is-installed
[03:57] <Ansxc> Options to use systemd not to offer!
[04:06] <Bashing-om> wolflarson: Regret to say . but I have no idea what other can cause the 404's in xenial-updates .
[04:06] <wolflarson> from what I am reading its almost like the 16.04 has reached EOL.
[04:06] <wolflarson> apparenlty this is what happens to 12.04 when ti reached EOL
[04:07] <wolflarson> wonder how I messed it up ... thanks for takign a look Bashing-om
[04:07] <wolflarson> i'll ask again in 12 hours and see if others are online
[04:08] <Bashing-om> wolflarson: I too am interested in learning the why .
[04:10] <wolflarson> its just asking for the wrong version of the packages ... I cleared apt cache to no effect.
[04:11] <Bashing-om> !info libgomp1
[04:14] <Bashing-om> wolflarson: All I can figure is perhaps PPAs holding them to the lower versions ???
[04:15] <wolflarson> its possible I guess ... I can remove the opensuse ppas and see if that helps
[04:17] <wolflarson> nope same issues
[04:19] <Bashing-om> wolflarson: While awaiting others smarter, let's take a stab . what returns ' apt-cache policy libgomp1 ' ?
[04:20] <wolflarson> http://paste.openstack.org/raw/556770/
[04:21] <wolflarson> however 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.1 does not actually exist in the repo
[04:21] <wolflarson> its 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.2
[04:22] <Bashing-om> wolflarson: Yeah. so I was exploring . why I get directed to PPAs in my think'n .
[04:25] <Bashing-om> wolflarson: I do not see a PPA in this one . what bites back with ' sudo apt install libgomp1 " ?
[04:27] <wolflarson> http://paste.openstack.org/raw/556771/
[04:29] <k-stz> hey, when I close my laptop lid I want it to run a particular command.. where would I put that?
[04:30] <bjdiaz1> quit
[04:31] <wolflarson> k-stz: you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopLidAndDockScripts
[04:31] <wolflarson> ?
[04:31] <Bashing-om> wolflarson: Yikkie . No further progress . What is killing us is " 202 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."  That 202 .
[04:32] <k-stz> wolflarson: yes a bit, looked too involved, hoped for a simpler approach. I literally only want to run a oneliner
[04:34] <k-stz> especially since it was tested for 10.04 maybe something new surfaced
[04:34] <Bashing-om> wolflarson: Hey .. what archetecture do we have ? there is " 5.3.1-14ubuntu2 [ports]: arm64 armhf powerpc ppc64el s390x " for xenial ! : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgomp1&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all
[04:34] <Kirito> Does the current release of HandBrake in the repositories not properly support embedded MKV subtitles?
[04:35] <Kirito> It's not detecting the subtitles for a video I'm trying to encode, and it unquestionably does have subtitles associated with it
[04:35] <wolflarson> amd64
[04:36] <reisio> Kirito: just use ffmpeg
[04:36] <reisio> Kirito: could be hard subs, though, theoretically
[04:36] <Kirito> reisio, That has nothing to do with my question
[04:36] <reisio> Kirito: no, it has to do with my sugggestion :)
[04:36] <Kirito> ffmpeg does not support burning in subtitles either
[04:36] <reisio> which has to do with your question
[04:36] <reisio> Kirito: you want to hardcode subs?
[04:36] <reisio> :/
[04:36] <reisio> are you swedish?
[04:36] <Kirito> ...No?
[04:36] <cfhowlett> ?
[04:37] <reisio> very popular among the swedish for some reason
[04:37] <reisio> can I ask why you want to hardcode subs?
[04:37] <Kirito> ..Or for when you want to stream videos online
[04:37] <reisio> there's not really a great reason to do it for that, either
[04:37] <reisio> but that's a reason, at least :)
[04:37] <reisio> what do you plan on streaming with?
[04:37] <Kirito> I'm not sure why you seem to think it's not a good reason, but okay.
[04:38] <reisio> how will the end user consume?
[04:38] <Kirito> I'm not going to explain what I'm doing in detail, I just asked a simple question, I will pull Handbrake and built it directly from upstream
[04:38]  * reisio shrugs
[04:39] <Ben64> use mkvmerge?
[04:39] <Kirito> Oh, they actually have a PPA.
[04:39] <Kirito> Everyone has a PPA on Ubuntu, that is nice.
[04:39] <wolflarson> do they have a snap?
[04:39] <Ben64> just be aware PPAs are 3rd party repositories, and are not supported
[04:40] <k-stz> speaking of PPA, if I do a apt-get update do the ppa packages also get updated? I'd like to block this if this was the case
[04:40] <reisio> https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/HowToBurnSubtitlesIntoVideo
[04:40] <Kirito> Yes. Why would you want to block it though?
[04:40] <reisio> handbrake is based on ffmpeg, after all
[04:40] <Kirito> Do you mean upgrade, not update?
[04:40] <reisio> I used to use another app for it, though, back when I wasted time on hard subs
[04:40] <reisio> (for DVD video, back in the day)
[04:40] <amincd> hi, is there is a log in Ubuntu for what packages I've downloaded, and when I upgraded which programs?
[04:41] <k-stz> Kirito: the ppa has a broken set up, and I fixed it by hand, updating it might break it again
[04:41] <Kirito> You can have apt hold packages back if needed, though you should generally be cautious when doing that
[04:41] <Kirito> ah, have you sent a bug report in about it?
[04:41] <Kirito> And yeah, you could hold the package back temporarily
[04:42] <k-stz> Kirito: no bug report, cause it is very specific. What's the hold command? How to google its use?
[04:42] <Kirito> https://askubuntu.com/a/18656
[04:42] <k-stz> Kirito: thx
[04:43] <Kirito> amincd, /var/log/apt/history.log
[04:43] <amincd> Kirito: I open that with a regular text editor?
[04:43] <Kirito> Sure, you can. Or just "less /var/log/apt/history.log" in your terminal.
[04:43] <Bashing-om> wolflarson: Is this : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-5/5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.1/+build/10316295 what we are looking at ???
[04:44] <amincd> Kirito: thanks
[04:44] <Kirito> \o
[04:46] <Kirito> Yay. Now subtitles are being detected.
[04:51] <arsinek> hello?
[04:51] <swift110-phone> hey
[04:51] <Bashing-om> arsinek: Yes ?
[04:51] <arsinek> Just seeing if people were alive
[04:52] <arsinek> Never used irc before
[04:52] <Richard> neither lol
[04:52] <swift110-phone> hey
[04:53] <Bashing-om> !info gcc
[04:53] <arsinek> Can someone give me some advice on remote desktop or remote access from Windows into Ubuntu?
[04:53] <reisio> arsinek: locally, or over the internet at large?
[04:54] <YankDownUnder> VNC...
[04:54] <arsinek> Well I was thinking locally
[04:54] <reisio> VNC will probably make you happy locally
[04:54] <arsinek> I want to turn my ubuntu machine into a web server though
[04:54] <reisio> arsinek: and?
[04:54] <k-stz> would it be bad to remove a ppa while I still have the software installed?
[04:54] <reisio> k-stz: not sure that's actually possible
[04:54] <EriC^^> k-stz: you wouldn't get any updates in the future
[04:55] <k-stz> that is what I want
[04:55] <k-stz> :I
[04:55] <reisio> yeah if you just mean the path in your sources
[04:55] <reisio> or pin it
[04:55] <baizon> k-stz: i recommend to use ppa-purge for that
[04:55] <k-stz> baizon: that sounds brutal, will my program stay on my machine tho?
[04:56] <baizon> k-stz: no
[04:56] <k-stz> ok holding it is..
[04:59] <arsinek> @reisio what if I wanted to access my machine over the web?
[05:00] <k-stz> well it is just: sudo apt-get mark <package>, so no problem..
[05:01] <k-stz> *hold before package name
[05:08] <nagendra> Hi
[05:12] <arsinek> Lets swing!
[05:13] <reisio> sway?
[05:22] <bennabiy> why does xenial not show up in launchpad for python-xlib?
[05:22] <bennabiy> does 16.04 use 14.04 package?
[05:24] <reisio> probably because there's no build for 16.04
[05:24] <reisio> bennabiy: sometimes that'll work, sometimes not
[05:24] <bennabiy> https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-xlib/+all-branches
[05:24] <baizon> bennabiy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=python-xlib&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[05:25] <bennabiy> I am looking for the launchpad page though,
[05:25] <reisio> launchpad is for ppas, though, basically
[05:25] <bennabiy> I basically need to update the code into a ppa
[05:25] <reisio> which usually don't waste time making packages that exist in repos already
[05:25] <bennabiy> reisio: package is in repo, but not the latest
[05:26] <reisio> separate issue
[05:26] <reisio> why do you need "the latest"?
[05:27] <bennabiy> I worked with upstream to fix a problem, but I have many locations which need the fix, so I want to put it in a PPA which can pull it in
[05:27] <bennabiy> and there are MANY code changes between the two versions
[05:29] <reisio> so what version do you need?
[05:30] <bennabiy> .17
[05:30] <bennabiy> 0.17
[05:30] <baizon> bennabiy: then build from source and / or create a ppa with 0.17
[05:30] <bennabiy> yes, that is what I want to do
[05:30] <bennabiy> I have the source for 0.17
[05:31] <bennabiy> but not sure the best way to get that into my ppa
[05:32] <baizon> bennabiy: example http://ghantoos.org/2008/10/19/creating-a-deb-package-from-a-python-setuppy/
[05:32] <baizon> bennabiy: or this https://pypi.python.org/pypi/stdeb
[05:33] <bennabiy> thank you :) I will look those over
[05:33] <bennabiy> that has been my difficulty
[05:39] <tux_> hey
[05:43] <rohan_> hi
[05:43] <rohan_> hi all
[05:43] <rohan_> new to linux
[05:49] <milesg> @rohan Do you need help with anything? (also, Welcome!)
[05:50] <freakyy> guys what is this new "apt" does it replace apt-get?
[05:50] <freakyy> or isnt it new? oO
[05:51] <Tin_man> new to me, and it works, saves a few key strokes.
[05:51] <milesg> Apt is part of apt-get, and other apt commands.
[05:51] <milesg> Apt is not new.
[05:51] <freakyy> ok ;D
[05:52] <Tin_man> but minus the get is to me anyway..
[05:52] <Tin_man> just seen it the other day.
[05:53] <milesg> You can find a list of the commands it can do related to it by typing apt in terminal.
[05:53] <Jordan_U> milesg: freakyy: Apt is in fact a newly implemented from scratch front end for dpkg.
[05:53] <milesg> It is?
[05:53] <milesg> Oh, my bad.
[05:54] <Jordan_U> milesg: freakyy: It's somewhat confusing because people used to, and still do, refer to the "apt-get" and "apt-cache" family as "apt" but the command that is simply "apt", as in "apt upgrade" is in fact new.
[05:55] <milesg> So it is more like a shorter way to mange packages?
[05:55] <milesg> manage(
[05:55] <milesg> manage**
[05:56] <Bashing-om> freakyy: milesg :: see: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/26q2sm/apt_vs_aptget/ http://www.howtogeek.com/234583/simplify-command-line-package-management-with-apt-instead-of-apt-get/
[05:56] <Bashing-om> https://mvogt.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/apt-1-0/
[05:57] <milesg> Okay.
[05:57] <milesg> I have to go so I will do it later.
[05:57] <milesg> Thanks for the information!
[05:58] <Tin_man> found this link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/445384/what-is-the-difference-between-apt-and-apt-get
[05:59] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, nice find!  bookmarked!
[06:00] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: I got curious .. and went look'n .. amazing what you find when you seek .
[06:01] <cfhowlett> yep.  might have to rewrite the old ubuntu command line cheatsheet
[06:01] <freakyy> thanks Bashing-om
[06:02] <Bashing-om> that is an oft asked question . be good to have it handy .
[06:02] <cfhowlett> set up a bottu trigger?
[06:02] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Glad to help .
[06:02] <temmi_hoo> similar thing related to ifconfig vs ip might be nice
[06:03] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: A trigger would be nice .
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om, cfhowlett usefull triggers report to dax
[06:03] <temmi_hoo> although i personally would really prefer people to fix broken programs instead of making new replacements that don't get 100% ready and will eventually be replaced because the next guy starts a replacement that...
[06:36] <freakyy> doesa anyone know how i can get skype for 16.04 Xenial?
[06:37] <freakyy> and does anyone know what the best IRC client for gnome is?
[06:37] <cfhowlett> freakyy, "best" is the only you prefer --- too subjective for us to state
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> freakyy: you can also try better alternatives like telegram or ring.cx for linux
[06:39] <freakyy> no i need skype
[06:42] <reisio> so install skype
[06:43] <YankDownUnder> Is it allowed to install Skype(tm) on Sunday?
[06:44] <baizon> freakyy: skype got an new alpha. IRC, imho hexchat
[06:45] <freakyy> baizon: where can i get this alpha
[06:45] <baizon> freakyy: well i would guess google can tell you that
[06:47] <dsjkl> i tried to install ubuntu, and the installer crashed
[06:47] <dsjkl> now the computer boots into the grub prompt
[06:47] <dsjkl> any ideas how to fix that?
[06:47] <baizon> dsjkl: then install it again
[06:47] <dsjkl> not an option
[06:48] <baizon> dsjkl: my guess would be, your configuration was bad
[06:48] <elias_a> dsjkl: Is it a fresh installation?
[06:49] <dsjkl> as not an upgrade? yes
[06:50] <elias_a> dsjkl: And you have data in /home that makes reinstallation a non-option?
[06:50] <cfhowlett> dsjkl, reinstall is really the best and sanest option
[06:50] <dsjkl> but why should i reinstall? what if it crashes again?
[06:51] <dsjkl> i can chroot into it from the install cd, but i have no idea what to do next
[06:52] <elias_a> dsjkl: First check your installation media that it is ok (md5sum). Then reinstall and you may choos /home not to be formatted if you wish.
[06:52] <freakyy> i have another question about ubuntu-gnome. the "online accounts" program doesnt show me any accounts i could add it just says it doesnt have any services to be added. but on my laptop i can add google, onedrive etc. why not on ym big pc?
[06:52] <dsjkl> ubuntu does not have /home
[06:52] <elias_a> dsjkl: Well it depends on your choices.
[06:52] <cfhowlett> dsjkl, so you have not data to lose then.
[06:53] <dsjkl> ubuntu does not give a choice to have a /home
[06:53] <elias_a> dsjkl: If you have not defined a separate /home partition that's a reason to reinstall.
[06:53] <cfhowlett> dsjkl, of course it does.  use the "install something else" option at install time or set up a /home post-install
[06:53] <baizon> dsjkl: yes it does
[06:53] <elias_a> dsjkl: Yes it does. Use advanced configuration when partitioning.
[06:55] <elias_a> dsjkl: Having a separate /home partition is a brilliant idea because 1) you can backup the data on that and 2) you can leave that partition intact when upgrading or installing.
[06:56] <elias_a> Of course one can backup data elsewhere as well but it is so simple to just backup a whole partition.
[07:00] <mathlover97> Hello. Could someone take a look at my 'sudo chkrootkit' output? Just let me know on which website should I paste. Thanks.
[07:00] <cfhowlett> !paste | mathlover97
[07:03] <mathlover97> Here you go; http://paste.ubuntu.com/23054743/
[07:08] <dsjkl> well it did it again
[07:08] <cfhowlett> dsjkl, did you md5sum the .iso?
[07:08] <cfhowlett> and the USB
[07:09] <dsjkl> it was torrent
[07:09] <cfhowlett> not what I asked you.
[07:09] <cfhowlett> you downloaded an .iso.  DID you verify the .iso with md5sum?
[07:09] <dsjkl> i didn't download an iso, i torrented it
[07:09] <cfhowlett> DID YOU VERIFY THE ISO?
[07:10] <cfhowlett> :)
[07:10] <baizon> dsjkl: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/how-to-verify
[07:11] <dsjkl> guys you know how torrents work, right?
[07:11] <baizon> ou dear
[07:11] <cfhowlett> dsjkl, do you know how to answer a simple question?
[07:11] <baizon> dsjkl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto#On_hard_disk
[07:13] <tomreyn> mathlover97: did you create the user account of username23 yourself (or someone else managing this computer)?
[07:14] <mathlover97> tomreyn, the username23 is my current user account's name (I know .. weird name to pick)
[07:15] <dsjkl> install medium verified ok
[07:16] <tomreyn> mathlover97: ok. about ebury, here's some ways to verify manually: https://www.cert-bund.de/ebury-faq
[07:17] <tomreyn> i'd also double check with rkhunter, and keep in mind those utilities do not provide complete coverage and are prone to false positives (and probably false negatives, too)
[07:18] <tomreyn> kind of like a virus scanner
[07:20] <mathlover97> tomreyn, I see. How do I find my eruby's version? eruby --version isn't working
[07:22] <tomreyn> mathlover97: eBURy (not eRUBy) is a malware. it won't provide a --version output.
[07:23] <mathlover97> tomreyn, i thought it was program that could get compromised for a moment. anyway :)
[07:25] <RalphBa> good morning
[07:26] <tomreyn> mathlover97: no, think of it more as the name given to a specific attack.
[07:26] <tomreyn> hi Ralph
[07:32] <mathlover97> tomreyn, the 'ipcs -m' command returns me a lot of stuff, including this one; '0x00000000 10387487   username23<PHONE_NUMBER>2   2          dest'
[07:32] <mathlover97> the article talks about up to 3megabyte files. this one is 30
[07:33] <dsjkl> i tried to install ubuntu, and the installer crashed
[07:33] <dsjkl> now the computer boots into the grub prompt
[07:33] <bmintz> how do i change my dns servers globally? also how do i install wicd
[07:33] <bmintz> re-install dsjkl?
[07:33] <cfhowlett> !dns | bmintz
[07:34] <bmintz> no i don't want to host one cfhowlett
[07:36] <tomreyn> mathlover97: it also discusses memory segments onwed by root, and not destroyed, though. you'd probably be better off asking those application specific questions in an application specific channel (if there is one).
[07:36] <mathlover97> tomreyn, ok, thanks :)
[07:37] <cfhowlett> dsjkl, clarify: the INSTALLER crashes?  at what stage?
[07:38] <dsjkl> when it configures the system
[07:38] <Furai> Hey.
[07:38] <Furai> What DMs are now popular?
[07:38] <dsjkl> the window appears saying the installer just crashed
[07:38] <dsjkl> Furai: gnome3 and unity
[07:38] <cfhowlett> dsjkl, but this is a different error than you first reported, yes?
[07:38] <dsjkl> i presume it crashes in the same spot every time
[07:39] <cfhowlett> dsjkl, ....
[07:39] <Furai> dsjkl, so either using stock or going back to basics?
[07:39] <dsjkl> but i will not install it in the 3rd time just to check
[07:39] <dsjkl> cfhowlett: what?
[07:39] <cfhowlett> you're not interested in verifying the fault so ... best of luck?
[07:40] <Furai> What about all these k-/x-/l-/ubuntu flavours? They just use different DEs? Right?
[07:40] <cfhowlett> !flavors | Furai
[07:40] <baizon> Furai: more or less
[07:41] <Furai> So far I odn't like unity. Maybe I'll just go with pure gnome.
[07:41] <baizon> Furai: maybe
[07:41] <Furai> What DEs people usually use?
[07:41] <antonio2> I've got an external monitor hooked up to my laptop via VGA.  How can I force my laptop to use the external monitor from startup?  (The laptop screen is busted)
[07:41] <alkisg> Furai: there's also ubuntu-mate, if it suits your better
[07:41] <bmintz> i use XFCE
[07:41] <cfhowlett> Furai then one they installed.  anyway, easy enough to test
[07:41] <bmintz> woopwoop
[07:41] <bmintz> cfhowlett, using popcon i assume?
[07:42] <cfhowlett> Furai, sudo apt install lxde xfce4 will grab those those 2 DE. logout/choose a DE/login
[07:42] <dsjkl> i'm not interested in verifying anything, i want my computer working
[07:42] <baizon> antonio2: which ubuntu version?
[07:42] <Furai> Yeah, I heard som rumours about xfce.
[07:42] <Furai> Seems it's good.
[07:42] <baizon> cfhowlett: its xubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop metapackaage
[07:42] <cfhowlett> dsjkl, you reported one error at first.  then you reported a different error.  troubleshooting practice is to reproduce the error and verify the details.  you are not will to do so ...
[07:42] <bmintz> no not lxfce
[07:42] <bmintz> never :D
[07:43] <dsjkl> cfhowlett: what different error? can't you read?
[07:43] <cfhowlett> baizon, true but I was only referencing the DE, not the full meal deal.
[07:43] <baizon> cfhowlett: ou ou, ok
[07:43] <cfhowlett> dsjkl, best you get help elsewhere.  again: best of luck
[07:43] <Furai> so xubuntu uses xfce?
[07:43] <cfhowlett> Furai, indeed
[07:44] <Furai> Ok, thanks.
[07:44] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[07:44] <Furai> I think I can go from this point.
[07:44] <bmintz> yes
[07:44] <bmintz> cfhowlett, then get xfce4 i think
[07:44] <alkisg> dsjkl: the best thing to do is to try to reinstall, and when the installer crashes, to come here and ask for help, so that people here can ask for error logs, try certain actions etc. "It crashed and now it doesn't boot" is too generic to get help from that.
[07:44] <Furai> Maybe last thing - anyone using mainline kernels with ubuntu?
[07:44] <cfhowlett> !kernel | Furai
[07:45] <dsjkl> screw error logs, I asked how to fix the broken system
[07:45] <Furai> cfhowlett, I've seen that before.
[07:45] <alkisg> dsjkl: we answered; reinstall
[07:45] <Furai> But that doesn't cover my question.
[07:45] <Furai> I've asked if anyone here actually uses it.
[07:45] <dsjkl> alkisg: i reinstalled it and it crashed again
[07:46] <cfhowlett> Furai, see the part where the mainline kernel is mentioned as an option and NOT the default?  that is your answer
[07:46] <bmintz> ok great! now that you reinstalled you should have the error logs. can we have them please?
[07:46] <alkisg> dsjkl: I understand, but without knowing what's going wrong at the point of the crash, we don't know if the installation can be fixed at all, or not
[07:46] <bmintz> ^
[07:46] <dsjkl> bmintz: where?
[07:46] <bmintz> when it crashed did you get a "report this error" screen?
[07:46] <alkisg> dsjkl: e.g. if the crash happened when installing grub, then only grub needs to be reinstalled, while if it happened when copying files, all the installation needs to happen again
[07:47] <bmintz> ^
[07:47] <bmintz> how do i change my dns servers globally? also how do i install wicd
[07:47] <bmintz> whoops hit ctrl+w expecting to delete a word
[07:48] <bmintz> can i just do `sudo apt install NetworkManager; and sudo apt install wicd`?
[07:48] <alkisg> bmintz: you can specify dns settings in the network manager connection settings...
[07:48] <bmintz> ik that
[07:49] <bmintz> but nm is so dumb you have to do that for EACH connnectin
[07:49] <dsjkl> and of course I don't have any logs as they were in a livecd session
[07:49] <cfhowlett> bmintz, probably.  simulate it: apt-get -s install wicd will tell you
[07:50] <cfhowlett> dsjkl, reboot.  go to "try ubuntu".  THEN start the install process.  when it crashes you will have logs available
[07:50] <bmintz> ^^^^^^^
[07:50] <bmintz> that's also liveCD
[07:50] <dsjkl> again?
[07:50] <bmintz> dsjkl, reboot.  go to "try ubuntu".  THEN start the install process.  when it crashes you will have logs available
[07:50] <bmintz> yes
[07:51] <alkisg> dsjkl: yes, the key point is that you have to be inside the live session when you report the error to know what went wrong, either to report it or even to just work around it
[07:53] <alkisg> bmintz: you can speifyc dns=none in NetworkManager.conf, and put your nameservers in resolv.conf
[07:53] <alkisg> man NetworkManager.conf
[07:54] <bmintz> omg
[07:54] <bmintz> ty
[08:00] <OnceMe> can I from volume control bar, remove microphone volume option?
[08:30] <intx> hi, I'm trying to get a script (pwnat) to run automatically when a wireless interface is brought online, because it needs to know the ip address of the interface, how do I do this?
[08:33] <alkisg> intx: are you using network-manager? put it in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d
[08:33] <intx> I'm using the default, so I think so, thanks :)
[08:36] <intx> alkisg: how would I get the ip address of the interface being brought online?
[08:38] <Ben64> well your script should already do that
[08:39] <ducasse> intx: parse the output of ip or ifconfig
[08:47] <JabberMouth> Is it possible to install a DHCP server on Ubuntu desktop or do I have to install Ubuntu server?
[08:48] <JabberMouth> also i might  need a tftp daemon
[08:50] <OnceMe> my ssh agent or whatever seems to be broken, I cannot login to any server via ssh
[08:50] <EriC^^> JabberMouth: the repos are in common between ubuntu and ubuntu server
[08:50] <JabberMouth> EriC^^: so I can use a dhcp server on a laptop that runs ubuntu?
[08:50] <JabberMouth> and are there any good fake dns servers out there?
[08:51] <jatt> try with ssh's -v flag
[08:51] <YankDownUnder> OnceMe: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-regenerate-openssh-host-keys/
[08:52] <JabberMouth> I need to run dhcp and dns on the wifi network at school on my laptop
[08:52] <JabberMouth> hand out addresses that are in the right subnet, the only difference from the real DHCP server being that it would be directing clients to use me as a DNS
[08:53] <JabberMouth> then I just need a DNS relay that replaces all queries with a porn site
[08:53] <JabberMouth> and the entire school gets nothing but porn
[08:53] <JabberMouth> is this a feasible plan?
[08:53] <Ben64> no, and doesn't belong in this channel
[08:53] <ducasse> JabberMouth: this is nothing we will help you do.
[08:53] <sruli1> hi
[08:54] <JabberMouth> ducasse: what if I just bring in a laptop and a windows tablet and run a few simultaneous iperf tests between them
[08:54] <JabberMouth> thats pretty harmless right?
[08:54] <Ben64> you're in the wrong channel, guy
[08:54] <ducasse> JabberMouth: why not ask the school admin?
[08:55] <JabberMouth> ducasse: you mean my I.T. teacher?
[08:55] <JabberMouth> he's a bumbling idiot
[08:56] <JabberMouth> i want to see him try to figure out whats going on
[08:56] <JabberMouth> in class
[08:56] <Ben64> JabberMouth: take this crap somewhere else. it isn't ubuntu support
[08:56] <JabberMouth> Ben64: it is if the laptop is running ubuntu with a linux based dhcpd
[08:57] <Ben64> nope, this is an ubuntu support channel, not a #wannabeascriptkiddie
[08:57] <JabberMouth> oh is that a real channel?
[08:57] <Ben64> yes
[08:59] <JabberMouth> liar
[08:59] <malkauns> lol
[08:59] <Ben64> you joined it, right? then it's real
[09:00] <JabberMouth> lol
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[09:00] <JabberMouth> I don't understand olympic gymnastics....
[09:00] <JabberMouth> Since when is spreading your legs considered a respectable way to make a living?
[09:00] <Ben64> JabberMouth: so get on topic or go away
[09:01] <JabberMouth> Is on topic related to Selena Gomez
[09:01] <Ben64> meh
[09:03] <Azitrex> think i have root user and alice user , alice have encrypted partition on their Home , could main root user to open files of encrepted partition of /home from alice ? this question is for security level of encrypted partition that is encrypted always or root could to decrypte them
[09:03] <loradcosta> hi
[09:03] <loradcosta> hello
[09:03] <loradcosta> k fam
[09:03] <Ben64> Azitrex: if alice is logged in, then yes
[09:05] <Azitrex> Ben64: no alice is not loggined and root wants to see what are the alice files in their home path
[09:05] <Ben64> can't then
[09:05] <bekks> Azitrex: Then root needs to ask alice for the password.
[09:06] <Azitrex> even main root ?
[09:06] <bekks> Yes.
[09:06] <Ben64> it's not a permissions issue, it's encrypted
[09:06] <bekks> Being root doesnt mean you know all the passwords.
[09:07] <Azitrex> yes ben it's logical but i thinked encrypte key maybe stored in any config file that main root could to see it
[09:07] <Ben64> if it worked like that, it'd be useless
[09:07] <bekks> Azitrex: The password is not stored anywhere.
[09:10] <Azitrex> i want to used a encrypted partition for sensetive database (mysql) files and main project on the server and i afriad from my admin to check them oneday and copy them if he want to sell to any person
[09:10] <Ben64> you should use a machine you control
[09:10] <bekks> Your database will fail to start then.
[09:11] <bekks> And you should be using a machine under your control, as Ben64 said.
[09:11] <Azitrex> if mysql service had to user permision then dont could to work in encrypted partition ?
[09:12] <bekks> Forget about permissions.
[09:12] <Azitrex> main server is shared in our company and any section of working have a place for work , but admin is not have healthy personality !
[09:12] <bekks> How do you want to run a database from an encrypted folder when you are not the admin?
[09:14] <Azitrex> bekks: i have a root user permision in server , and i could to make more username by it
[09:14] <bekks> If you are root - why is someone else root, too?
[09:14] <Azitrex> my root is not main root , i have root username with root permision but not as main root
[09:15] <bekks> There is no such thing as "main root" at all.
[09:15] <Azitrex> because law of admin !
[09:15] <bekks> If you have root, it means "I am the one having access to the root account of a machine".
[09:15] <Azitrex> yes it's
[09:16] <bekks> So you are root.
[09:16] <bekks> Why is someone else root, too?
[09:17] <Azitrex> but what is solution for this case ? i have a not healthy admin and must be running a sensetive Project in machine and i dont want to see copy of project in any other hand
[09:17] <Ben64> run it on a machine only you have root on
[09:17] <Ben64> only way
[09:18] <Azitrex> bekks: i dont know , main admin defined that and say to our must be work with that
[09:18] <bekks> Azitrex: Forget the state of mind of anyone else. Ensure you are the only one having root access to that machine.
[09:18] <bekks> If you cant ensure that, dont run your mysql stuff there.
[09:20] <Azitrex> a technical question when i had a service that worked with files in a encrypted partition and with all permission why dont worked with files ?
[09:20] <bekks> Can you rephrase that, it doesnt make any sense so far.
[09:22] <Azitrex> but it's a require feature i think !
[09:22] <bekks> Azitrex: Can you rephrase what you said, it does not make any sense.
[09:23] <bekks> Azitrex: If you want to encrypt your server, install a server onl you have access to, and use full disk encryption.
[09:23] <bekks> *only
[09:25] <Azitrex> many thanks guys
[10:32] <Ice_Strike> When user logged in, it will automatically execute  dircolors -b
[10:32] <Ice_Strike> Where that come from?
[10:33] <Ben64> ~/.bashrc
[10:34] <OerHeks> Ben64 +1  http://askubuntu.com/questions/389021/explain-eval-dircolors-path-to-dircolorsdb
[10:35] <bekks> If "eval" is the answer, the qestion is wrong.
[10:35] <bekks> *question
[10:40] <rictoo> hey guys, i have some circular dependency problem, please help :(
[10:40] <rictoo> http://pastebin.com/8VZEquk6
[10:40] <rictoo> i tried installing python-pip and this happened.
[10:40] <rictoo> im not able to use apt-get at all for any package
[10:41] <tomreyn> please show the output of apt-get update; apt-cache policy
[10:42] <tomreyn> also: apt-get -f install
[10:42] <ikonia> it's going to be a ppa
[10:42] <bekks> rictoo: can you pastebin "apt-cache policy python2.7" and "apt-cache policy libpython2.7-minimal", in addition please?
[10:43] <Ben64> it's always a ppa
[10:43] <ikonia> the name "container0" suggests it maybe an lxc container too which may have packages locked/altered from the hypervisor
[10:44] <rictoo> tomreyn, http://pastebin.com/D4cJn4jT
[10:44] <rictoo> bekks, http://pastebin.com/XBj0MR0b
[10:46] <rictoo> indeed it is an LXC container, the line that started all this was me typing: "sudo apt-get install python-setuptools python-dev build-essential"
[10:48] <ikonia> so there are some basic pre-sript errors, I'd look at them first
[10:48] <ikonia> I'd then do a clean up
[10:48] <ikonia> then look at what's left
[10:48] <tomreyn> rictoo: sudo apt-get install -f
[10:48] <ikonia> yeah, thats not going to help
[10:48] <rictoo> tomreyn, i have the output for that as the last part of the paste to tomreyn
[10:48] <rictoo> oh thats you sorry :P
[10:49] <tomreyn> rictoo: you ran it without sudo though
[10:49] <rictoo> this is so sad i wish i had made a snapshot T.T
[10:49] <Ice_Strike> What is the difference between: bash -c scp -t /etc/nginx/filename and scp -t /etc/nginx/filename
[10:49] <tomreyn> rictoo: sorry ignore that, you are working as root
[10:49] <rictoo> ah
[10:49] <rictoo> yeah
[10:52] <i52lofed> hi
[10:52] <i52lofed> you 're faggots
[10:52] <i52lofed> The best Operating System is Microsoft Windows XP
[10:52] <Sven_vB> Ice_Strike, in the first command with "bash -c" there are probably quotes missing
[10:53] <hiya> is there a way to upgrade Intel graphics drivers in 14.04?
[10:53] <hiya> i52lofed: lol
[10:53] <i52lofed> chupadme la polla
[10:53] <tomreyn> rictoo: so this is a strange issue, i have not run into it before:  unable to make backup link of './usr/share/doc/libpython2.7-minimal/changelog.Debian.gz' before installing new version: Operation not permitted
[10:53] <Ice_Strike> Sven_vB Is there a way to enable log scp what file has been recieved via remote?
[10:54] <tomreyn> rictoo: your file system might be full (check: df -h), but it's more likely to do with lxc capabilities / apparmor
[10:54] <Sven_vB> Ice_Strike, you could redirect the output of scp to a logfile
[10:55] <Ice_Strike> how?
[10:55] <Kirito> http://www.guayadeque.org/index.php?p=/page/Download lol that contradictory enthusiasm
[10:55] <Sven_vB> Ice_Strike, scp [args] 2>&1 | tee ~/scp.log
[10:55] <Kirito> "To install guayadeque in Ubuntu 10.10 and later, you can now use the ubuntu software center! (Not recommended!)"
[10:56] <Ice_Strike> Sven_vB I meant someone send me a file to my server.
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> Kirito  yes, but that's for #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:56] <Ice_Strike> and on my server I want to log it
[10:56] <Sven_vB> Ice_Strike, then you'll have to refer to your SSH server's manual
[10:57] <Sven_vB> Ice_Strike, i'm pretty sure usual server software can log that, just don't know the details :)
[10:57] <Ice_Strike> ok ;)
[10:57] <Ice_Strike> thanks
[10:57] <Sven_vB> Ice_Strike, are you going to have a program react to incoming files?
[10:57] <Kirito> MonkeyDust, Sure, if you consider the Ubuntu Software Center offtopic, I guess
[10:57] <Ice_Strike> Sven_vB No, just logging purpose.
[10:57] <Sven_vB> ok
[10:58] <OerHeks> Kirito, big fun, no files at all, https://sourceforge.net/projects/guayadeque/files/
[10:58] <Kirito> yep :/
[10:59] <Kirito> Seems to be abandoned completely actually. Not even in the Ubuntu repositories any more. Oh well
[10:59] <six519> hello world!
[10:59] <OerHeks> Kirito, tons of other mediaplayers
[11:00] <Kirito> Yeah. I was just looking that one up on a passing reference. Unfortunately I haven't really found any that I like enough to use daily
[11:01] <Kirito> of course I also mostly just listen to Spotify
[11:02] <Kirito> I guess Spotify technically counts since it can play local audio too though, just can't do what I was looking for :D which is output to ALSA directly, instead of pulseaudio
[11:02] <Zanzibar82> Hello, can someone help me with driver issues?
[11:02] <bekks> Zanzibar82: You need to ask a specific question before. :)
[11:05] <Zanzibar82> thanks bekks. I am on ubuntu 16.04, machine is a dell studio 1555, issue is about overheating, probably because of vga drivers. Gpu is RV710
[11:07] <bekks> Zanzibar82: "probably" doesnt indicate any problem. What is the exact problem you are having, and why do you think it is a problem with your vga drivers?
[11:10] <OerHeks> Zanzibar82, did you install  & setup lm-sensors?
[11:10] <OerHeks> can you pastebin the output of 'sensors' ??
[11:14] <OerHeks> oh wait, core2duo t6500 ... max temp 105°C / 221 F ..
[11:14] <Zanzibar82> 0erHerks installing now, reporting back soon
[11:14] <Pr070cal> hi guys i installed 16.04 now my network interface isnt working
[11:18] <bekks> Pr070cal: Why not?
[11:20] <Zanzibar82> 0erHeks here you go http://pastebin.com/6P72Xp25
[11:21] <OerHeks> Zanzibar82, i see all within limits, and the dell hardware is recognised.
[11:21] <OerHeks> i checked intel > http://ark.intel.com/products/39311/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-T6500-2M-Cache-2_10-GHz-800-MHz-FSB
[11:21] <OerHeks> that gave me a clue, it is a hot cpu
[11:24] <Zanzibar82> OerHeks you're right, but things change as soon as any "gpu-intensive" task is on, like browser flash contents or hd videos
[11:25] <OerHeks> Zanzibar82, are you on 16.04??
[11:25] <Zanzibar82> on a different OS it's cooler anyways
[11:25] <Zanzibar82> yes I am, sir
[11:25] <OerHeks> AMD is supported by the open radoen driver ( or AMDgpu for newest cards)
[11:25] <OerHeks> c/radeon
[11:25] <OerHeks> still the temps are within the specs ...
[11:26] <OerHeks> I don't think we can do something about that :-(
[11:26] <bekks> Except cleaning the fan :)
[11:27] <OerHeks> indeed, bekks, but i doubt it makes a huge difference
[11:28] <Zanzibar82> well I guess you guys are right and it' all in my mind, and I'm asking too much to this old machine. Thanks for the help, I'll try cleaning up the fan as soon as i have the time, as really it looks like the only thing I can try.
[11:28] <OerHeks> play video full screen, that could release some stress from the CPU/GPU
[11:29] <Zanzibar82> 0erHeks yes indeed
[11:30] <Zanzibar82> but I'll try the fan cleaning, never did that since 2009. Guess the time has come
[11:31] <Zanzibar82> Thanks for support, have a nice day.
[11:37] <Zanzibar82> Here again, the other question I had: there's an application that launches by terminal with sudo, but crashes at start if launched by its icon
[11:38] <Zanzibar82> c
[11:38] <bekks> Zanzibar82: you should not start graphical applications using sudo.
[11:39] <EriC^^> Zanzibar82: try launching it without sudo from the terminal and see any errors
[11:39] <Zanzibar82> but that's the only way to launch it
[11:39] <bekks> Zanzibar82: using sudo to start a graphical application is NOT the right way to do that.
[11:39] <bekks> Zanzibar82: And which application do you talk about?
[11:40] <elacheche> Hey there! Ubuntu 16.04 uses Linux 4.4.. So is it possible to use a new nstalled kernel without rebooting?
[11:40] <bekks> elacheche: No.
[11:41] <elacheche> Why not bekks, live pathing was supposed to be supported in linux 4.0, it's not there yet?
[11:42] <bekks> elacheche: "was supposed"? Never heard of it.
[11:42] <bekks> elacheche: And even with the mechanisms developed by redhat and oracle, it is not possible to 100% exchange a running kernel.
[11:42] <k1l_> elacheche: its included since kernel 4.0 iirc. but you need to make special kernels for that features (which ubuntu doesnt atm)
[11:43] <Abe_> when i try to get an iso on an usb drive it always freezes on 49% and after a while this error appears http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=19530721 using startup disk creator.
[11:43] <elacheche> Oh! I see k1l_ :) thx :)
[11:43] <elacheche> bekks: http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/linux-4.0-goes-live-with-live-kernel-patching.html
[11:43] <bekks> Abe_: How do you "get an iso on an usb" then?
[11:43] <bekks> elacheche: Did you already take a deep look into technologies like ksplice?
[11:43] <elacheche> k1l_: the server kernel don't come with that as well?
[11:44] <k1l_> elacheche: i doubt since the kernel is the same for server and desktop.
[11:44] <capum321> hello, is there a standard which specify user writable folders? eg. I have a .py file, was told to copy to /usr/local/bin, but my os doesn't have this path.
[11:44] <nikre> how can i fix this mbr problem?     Boot sector info:  According to the info in the boot sector, sda2 starts at sector 2048. But according to the info from fdisk, sda2 starts at sector<PHONE_NUMBER>.
[11:44] <bekks> capum321: that pasth isnt user writable. Only paths under the users home are writable to the user.
[11:44] <nikre> output of bbot-repaır*
[11:44] <nikre> boot
[11:44] <elacheche> bekks: kspplice is not free to use :) Thx bekks & k1l_ :)
[11:44] <Abe_> well i need it to make it bootable and i used startup disk creator before and it worked on a different usb. buy this stick was never used.
[11:45] <k1l_> elacheche: take a look at this: http://chrisarges.net/2015/09/21/livepatch-on-ubuntu.html
[11:45] <elacheche> OK k1l_
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> Abe_  sounds like a hardware / stick error, then
[11:47] <bekks> Abe_: Are you using an Ubuntu ISO?
[11:47] <Abe_> i found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/173615/an-uncaught-exception-was-raisedinvalid-version-string-gnu-linux-when-creat
[11:47] <Abe_> no
[11:47] <amjed121> hi
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> Abe_  then what iso?
[11:48] <capum321> bekks: ok, will copy to $home then, thansk
[11:48] <akik> elacheche: http://www.ksplice.com/try/desktop says it's free for ubuntu and fedora
[11:49] <Abe_> debian
[11:56] <Pr070cal_> i installed 16.04 and now my network interface isnt working when i unplug the cable and plug it back in it doesnt look for a new ip but it works fine in windows, i did a fresh install and it still doesnt work not even on 16.04 live cd but works on windows theres no eth0 but there is enp3s0 but it acts funny with ifconfig unknown interface
[11:58] <OerHeks> Pr070cal_, perfectly normal, with SystemD there is a change, predictable interface naming
[11:58] <OerHeks> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[12:00] <OerHeks> you can change back, but you better get used to it
[12:01] <Pr070cal_> is that why it not eth0 ?
[12:01] <bekks> yes
[12:02] <k1l_> yes. other distros did change to the new naming sheme some time before but ubuntu kept the old naming a while.
[12:03] <Pr070cal_> ok thats fine i dont mind the new scheme i used it in my last instal
[12:03] <Pr070cal_> lol need a new keyboard
[12:03] <Pr070cal_> why is my interface not working properly
[12:04] <kelvinella> hello
[12:04] <kelvinella> how to install acestream in ubuntu 16.04?
[12:05] <Kirito> https://bpaste.net/show/ca5e3aecc53d So, I'm assuming this dumb package manager logic is a solid indicator that you can't actually uninstall pulseaudio on Ubuntu 16.04 in any way?
[12:05] <kelvinella> after I upgrade to 16.04 from 14.04, I can't install acestream
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> !info acestream
[12:06] <k1l_> kelvinella: ask the 3rd party repo or packages maintainer you used before
[12:09] <kelvinella> so, nothing i can do?
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> kelvinella  16.04 is not (yet) in the list ... http://wiki.acestream.org/wiki/index.php/AceStream_3.0/en
[12:10] <OerHeks> I think acestream p2p never will be in our repos.
[12:13] <abdulhakeem> For some reason, some Conky widgets are appearing in a new Window, rather than just appearing on the Desktop. Never seen that before and Google isn't finding anything either. Anyone know why that's happening? Running 16.04
[12:14] <abdulhakeem> most of the Conky widgets are doing it but not all of them
[12:16] <dave101> hi. I have 6 monitors setup connected to six rasberry pi's
[12:16] <OerHeks> 1st think i learned scripting, conky scripts. I think you need to edit them to your needs, abdulhakeem
[12:17] <wilson> ?
[12:17] <dave101> I want to be able to connect to each pi indiviually and change what is dsiaplyed on the monitors
[12:17] <dave101> can i use tightvnc to access the console session as such to do this?
[12:17] <OerHeks> abdulhakeem, 2300+ pages with conky examples > https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=2325 ( longest post i ever seen)
[12:17] <Kirito> http://kodi.wiki/view/PulseAudio/HOW-TO:_Disable_PulseAudio_and_use_ALSA_(without_removing_PulseAudio)_for_Ubuntu Nevermind, I found a less (or more) violent solution :D
[12:18] <dave101> i know how to bring the X session back to me but i never needed to do it the other way round before.
[12:18] <dave101> any help is much appreicated
[12:19] <dave101> so essentially everytime i move the mouse its clones what im doing on a reote laptop up on the monitors
[12:19] <dave101> remote*
[12:19] <Tims_Tech> hi
[12:19] <Tims_Tech> can I ask things about the bash for windows tool?
[12:20] <k1l_> !ubuwin | Tims_Tech better ask there:
[12:20] <OnceMe> I run this rsync -aAXv --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} / /media/stefan/StefanData/mylatestbackup/
[12:20] <OnceMe> and it completed with errors, its due that I didnt runned it with sudo I guess, when I run sudo sudo rsync -aAXv --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} / /media/stefan/StefanData/mylatestbackup/
[12:20] <OnceMe> sudo rsync -aAXv --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} / /media/stefan/StefanData/mylatestbackup/
[12:20] <Tims_Tech> #ubuntu-on-windows
[12:20] <OnceMe> it starts all over again, can I somehow only sync the files which failed during the sync, and not all over again?
[12:20] <Tims_Tech> 13 people
[12:20] <Tims_Tech> great
[12:20] <Tims_Tech> going good
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> OnceMe  FWIW: with grsync, you can simulate it and see what syntax it uses
[12:23] <dave101> Is what im trying to achieve dooable?
[12:26] <OnceMe> MonkeyDust: how can I exclude home
[12:26] <OnceMe> I get rsync: link_stat "/home/*}" failed: No such file or directory
[12:26] <dave101> The only wat i've found to do this so far is to create an extended desktop with xrandr but then i have to be connected into the hdmi port for each individual pi which isnt practical. Could 'screen' help ?
[12:26] <OnceMe> for sudo rsync -aAXv --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found", "/home/*"} / /media/stefan/StefanData/mylatestbackup/
[12:27] <dave101> OnceMe: you can also add "--stats --progress" to see whats happening
[12:27] <OnceMe> dave101: i do see whats happening
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:28] <filter85> sup guys
[12:28] <dave101> OnceMe: ok, thought that might be of use
[12:28] <ducasse> dave101: screen is a terminal application, so no
[12:29] <OnceMe> dave101: how to exclude home from backup?
[12:29] <dave101> ducasse: ok. culd you invoke xrandr through ssh in some way perhaps?
[12:30] <ducasse> dave101: eh, yes, but i don't see how that would help
[12:31] <Dev_> Hi. If Ubuntu 16.10 has MIR as an option, when 16.04.2 appears will it possible to install MIR on 16.04 ?
[12:32] <akik> OnceMe: are you sure about the rsync syntax? { } might be wrong
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> dave101  is this useful (xdotool) ... http://null.redcodenetwork.ro/xdotool-simulating-keyboard-and-mouse-on-linux/
[12:33] <Ice_Strike> tail -f auth.log | grep -v -f exclude_strings.txt
[12:33] <Ice_Strike> Why this wont out?
[12:33] <dave101> ducasse: just firing ideas about ...
[12:33] <Ice_Strike> In  exclude_strings.txt I included strings (line by line) to not show in trail -f
[12:34] <ducasse> dave101: i think your best option is vnc, then you control the remote display. or x2go, which is pretty similar.
[12:35] <ashraful> hi friends
[12:35] <OerHeks> Dev_, no confirmation about unity8+mir, i don't think it will land in this LTS release.
[12:36] <Dev_> OerHeks ok thank you !
[12:36] <akik> oh well { } works with rsync
[12:36] <OerHeks> usually ubuntu introduces new stuff in the version in between, 16.10 - 17.10 .. 18.04 will be the next LTS.
[12:37] <vadrag> Hello everyone :D i just installed ubuntu :)
[12:37] <Dev_> OerHeks I understand. Hardware Enablement Stacks introduce new Kernel+Xorg in LTS. So if 16.10 has MIR, shouldn't HWE has a kernel+MIR option?
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> !manual | vadrag great!
[12:38] <dave101> ducasse: ive loked at tghtvnc but it doesnt display the remote display
[12:38] <k1l_> Dev_: xorg will be there for a very long time
[12:38] <ducasse> dave101: it should. which desktop is running?
[12:39] <ducasse> dave101: remotely, that is.
[12:39] <dave101> ducasse: if im running "awesome" then i try to start the vnc server it fails
[12:39] <ducasse> dave101: that should work.
[12:39] <dave101> both desktops are running awesome
[12:39] <Dev_> k1l_ ok, thank you
[12:40] <ducasse> dave101: why does it fail? i assume it prints an error?
[12:40] <vadrag> thanks MonkeyDust
[12:41] <V7> Hello
[12:41] <V7> 28.046s click-system-hooks.service
[12:41] <V7>          24.294s<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:41] <V7>          23.715s<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:41] <V7> How I can make them load faster at the booting ?!
[12:41] <OerHeks> !paste
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> V7  use a !pastebin
[12:42] <V7> sorry
[12:42] <V7> I know about that ... I thought ... 3 lines isn't big
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> V7  have you installed preload?
[12:42] <geeker> heeeyyy everybody
[12:43] <V7> Nope
[12:43] <dave101> ducasse: so if on the local machine i start 'awesome' i see it appear on the monitor. Then i start the vnc server with "vncserver :0 -geometry 1920x1080 -depth 24" also on the local machine thats fine. But when i now try to connect from a remote machine to the vnc server i get the error "xtightvncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused"
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> !info preload | V7
[12:43] <V7> Port opened ? dave101
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> V7  also, in a terminal, paste this line ... sudo sed -i s/PRELINKING\=unknown/PRELINKING\=yes/g /etc/default/prelink; sudo /etc/cron.daily/prelink
[12:45] <geeker> I have a question about openstack, anyone here with knowledge about that ?
[12:45] <V7> cmosguy: can't read /etc/default/prelink: No such file or directory
[12:45] <V7> I've install preload
[12:45] <V7> installed *
[12:45] <ducasse> dave101: try to turn on logging on the server, see if you can get any details. vnc can be a bit fiddly to get working, the client i've usually had the easiest time with is remmina.
[12:45] <V7> I need to start it now with Alt+F2 ?
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> V7  no, it's a daemon, no config required (it is available, tho, for advanced use)
[12:46] <OerHeks> geeker, try #openstack or #ubuntu-server, more suitable channels i guess.
[12:46] <V7> Also ... I have a lot of Memory used by smth.
[12:46] <V7> I don't know what
[12:47] <geeker> OerHeks , I will try those
[12:49] <dave101> ducasse: Yes i see what i can grab. Thanks
[13:01] <OnceMe> hello I want to install windows and then ubuntu after that
[13:01] <OnceMe> do I choose boot from UEFI Kingston USB or just KingstonDataTraveler, no UEFI?
[13:01] <OnceMe> which one to use?
[13:02] <geeker> depends on ur previous install of windows
[13:02] <geeker> try non UEFI first
[13:02] <geeker> if that does not work than try the other
[13:02] <geeker> how old is the PC?
[13:02] <OnceMe> 1 year
[13:02] <OnceMe> but I have a weird stuff
[13:02] <EriC^^> did you install windows yet?
[13:02] <OnceMe> yo EriC^^ lol
[13:03] <OnceMe> you helpmed me the last time I was installing the windows/ubuntu if you remember :D
[13:03] <OnceMe> helped*
[13:03] <EriC^^> :D
[13:04] <EriC^^> i thought your nick looks familiar
[13:05] <jianu81> hi
[13:05] <jianu81> guys
[13:05] <EriC^^> did you install windows yet?
[13:05] <jianu81> what ubuntu distro would fit in a 3 gb partition ?
[13:05] <jianu81> i can go for older versions too
[13:05] <vadrag> so excited , to see 1867 ppl online using ubuntu :)
[13:05] <jianu81> would xubuntu 14.10 work ?
[13:06] <jianu81> i don't want minimal cd btw nor server versions
[13:06] <jianu81> no one ?
[13:07] <k1l_> jianu81: 14.10 is dead already
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> jianu81  14.10 is dead
[13:07] <EriC^^> jianu81: 12.04 , 14.04 and 16.04 are supported right now
[13:07] <EriC^^> try lubuntu 12.04 i guess
[13:07] <jianu81> lubuntu has problems
[13:07] <jianu81> would prefer to use xubuntu
[13:08] <k1l_> jianu81: but you will need to make a minimal install and install only the packages you want. since i doubt 3GB will be nough for a regular desktop at all
[13:08] <jianu81> i'm too much of a beginner for that
[13:08] <jianu81> plus
[13:08] <jianu81> my device
[13:08] <EriC^^> xubuntu 12.04 then?
[13:08] <jianu81> doesn't have an ethernetp ort
[13:08] <jianu81> port
[13:08] <k1l_> what device is it that has only 3GB space?
[13:08] <EriC^^> k1l_ said a good idea
[13:08] <jianu81> well it's weird
[13:08] <EriC^^> use wifi
[13:09] <jianu81> not detected
[13:09] <jianu81> howevr it is in the kernel
[13:09] <k1l_> jianu81: well, you are stating quite impossible requirements
[13:09] <jianu81> why ?
[13:09] <jianu81> from what i remember lubuntu 15.04 fitted perfectly on 2gb ?
[13:09] <k1l_> "i want a full blown desktop but only have tiny space. and i dont want to do a minimal install"
[13:09] <EriC^^> cause it's usually 6g for an install or so
[13:09] <jianu81> i can go for an older version
[13:09] <EriC^^> jianu81: are you talking about the actual hdd space or the live usb?
[13:10] <geeker> Guys, I need some help with openstack. I tried multiple forums and chatrooms, including different IRC channels. What other places can I go for help about that?
[13:10] <jianu81> hdd space
[13:10] <dave101> ducasse: Got it working with x11vnc. Worked straight out of the box.
[13:10] <k1l_> jianu81: why do you only have 3GB disk space?
[13:10] <EriC^^> jianu81: lubuntu 15.04 didn't fit 2gb
[13:10] <jianu81> it used 2gb *
[13:10] <EriC^^> the live usb is like 800mb
[13:10] <ducasse> dave101: ok, good. did it solve your remote access problem?
[13:11] <ducasse> !alis | geeker
[13:11] <k1l_> jianu81: are you mixing a live system and a installed system?
[13:11] <jianu81> no
[13:11] <jianu81> i want
[13:11] <jianu81> a installed system
[13:11] <jianu81> that can fit in 3gb
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> !enter | jianu81
[13:11] <jianu81> that's also ubuntu base
[13:11] <k1l_> jianu81: do a minimal install
[13:11] <jianu81> can't
[13:11] <jianu81> wifi
[13:11] <jianu81> not detected
[13:11] <jianu81> but it is in the kernel
[13:11] <k1l_> jianu81: xubuntu says at least 6GB
[13:12] <jianu81> it is detected by ubuntu 16.04
[13:12] <jianu81> i'm willing to go as low as 12.04
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> jianu81  can't go lower than 12.04
[13:12] <EriC^^> i doubt xubuntu 12.04 needs <4gb
[13:13] <k1l_> xubuntu says on its page: at least 6Gb better 20GB disk space.
[13:13] <k1l_> jianu81: again: what device is that?
[13:13] <ducasse> jianu81: use the server image, and install just the packages you need. i recently installed 16.04 with i3 in less than 2gb.
[13:13] <jianu81> a laptop
[13:13] <EriC^^> jianu81: why don't you make a live usb image with a partition you can save your data to?
[13:13] <jianu81> with a broken ssd
[13:13] <jianu81> how do i do that ?
[13:13] <jatt> replace the ssd
[13:13] <jianu81> i also would like something ubuntu basd and official
[13:14] <EriC^^> put a xubuntu iso on it, and use grub to boot that, and have the rest 3gb as a partition for space
[13:14] <vadrag> who else is from greece :D  ?
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> vadrag  nana mouskouri
[13:15] <jianu81> yeah
[13:15] <jianu81> but
[13:15] <jianu81> server edition
[13:15] <jianu81> doesn't detect my wi-fi
[13:15] <EriC^^> !persistence | jianu81
[13:15] <jianu81> but it's detected by normal ubuntu
[13:15] <vadrag> not online MonkeyDust :P
[13:15] <k1l_> jianu81: that depends on the exact hardware used.
[13:16] <k1l_> jianu81: or you put a lan cable in it for install
[13:16] <jianu81> i don't have a slot for that
[13:16] <jianu81> it's an ultrabook
[13:17] <jianu81> let's say i use a live cd
[13:17] <EriC^^> how long til you get another ssd?
[13:17] <jianu81> well since i'm a student
[13:17] <jianu81> probably in a few months
[13:17] <jianu81> by the way
[13:17] <jianu81> let's say i use a live cd
[13:17] <EriC^^> do you have 2 usb's ?
[13:18] <jianu81> could i use the usb i booted from as storage ?
[13:18] <EriC^^> the 4gb and another usb?
[13:18] <jianu81> yeah
[13:18] <EriC^^> jianu81: yeah with persistence you can
[13:18] <jianu81> ok
[13:18] <jianu81> i'll try that
[13:18] <EriC^^> or do ducasse 's idea of a server install, and chroot from a live usb and install whatever stuff you need for wifi/desktop
[13:19] <OnceMe> EriC^^: ok going uefi
[13:19] <jianu81> not sure if it's relevant to this chat but here it is the error that th ssd gives : http://pastebin.com/wfLJzFBa
[13:19] <EriC^^> the bonus of that would be better (you get kernel updates and stuff like that which dont come with persistence)
[13:19] <OnceMe> i am doing fresh install of linux and win so purging everything
[13:20] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, sounds good
[13:21] <jianu81> by the way
[13:21] <jianu81> i have an intel 7260
[13:21] <OnceMe> EriC^^: ok now in windows partitioner I have drive 0 7 partitions
[13:21] <OnceMe> can I purge them all? I have data backup
[13:21] <jianu81> that's what is not detected in minimal install
[13:21] <EriC^^> OnceMe: yeah nuke them
[13:22] <OnceMe> done now I have 930 unlocated space :D
[13:23] <OnceMe> ok ive made a new partition of 200000MB
[13:23] <flux242> best way to do partitioning right is ask on irc, yeah
[13:23] <OnceMe> windows made 4 partitions though, one recovery one for system and one for MSR Reserved
[13:23] <OnceMe> I guess thats all fine EriC^^?
[13:23] <jianu81> anyway
[13:23] <OerHeks> minimal iso needs wired networking, i think your demand is unrealistic, 3 gb ... jianu81
[13:23] <EriC^^> OnceMe: sounds right
[13:24] <jianu81> i have found a way to get wired networking
[13:24] <jianu81> the most simple idea ever
[13:24] <jianu81> just using my wi-fi
[13:24] <jianu81> from my phone
[13:24] <jianu81> mobile data*
[13:24] <jianu81> so
[13:24] <jianu81> should i use minimal install or server edition
[13:25] <Ben64> jianu81: what is your goal
[13:25] <jianu81> running ubuntu on a 3gb device
[13:25] <guillaume____> hi, is it possible to set permissions to stay in a folder even if someone from the group create new files in it ?
[13:25] <OnceMe> EriC^^: ok installing windows now, just a heads up, when I install ubuntu 14.04 I do it in uefi aswell?
[13:25] <Ben64> jianu81: i'd say give up.
[13:26] <flux242> OerHeks: minimal iso supports wi-fi
[13:26] <jianu81> why ?
[13:26] <EriC^^> OnceMe: yeah they have to be in the same mode
[13:26] <Ben64> 3GB is too small
[13:26] <jianu81> i'm asking about minimal
[13:26] <jianu81> or server edition
[13:26] <guillaume____> user alloxrinfo and server www-data, added alloxrinfo to group www-data so that it can have write access on www-data created files except the www-data script i'm using is creating www-data:www-data files with 0644 so only the owner has write access
[13:26] <jatt> I think he is trying to install ubuntu in an ultrabook with 2gb ram and broken ssd
[13:26] <Ben64> if the ssd is broken, where is it being installed
[13:27] <jatt> that's an excellent question 😸
[13:27] <jianu81> on an external storage device
[13:27] <jatt> maybe he can enlighten us
[13:27] <Ben64> usb?
[13:27] <ducasse> jianu81: is there another os on this disk already, is that why you only have 3gb?
[13:27] <guillaume____> anyone ?
[13:28] <jianu81> no
[13:28] <jianu81> but i need the other free space
[13:28] <jianu81> so i'm making two partitions
[13:28] <jianu81> is it enough for a minimal install ?
[13:28] <jianu81> with openbox ?
[13:28] <Ben64> use a liveusb, an actual install over usb is way too slow
[13:28] <OerHeks> flux242, if his wifi adapter does not work, minimal iso is useless as it has no live mode.
[13:28] <ducasse> jianu81: should be, as i said earlier.
[13:29] <LibertyWeNeed> Hi, I am installing ubuntu server for the first time. I am not sure what to type as the 'hostname'
[13:29] <jianu81> i can use
[13:29] <jianu81> my phone
[13:30] <jianu81> we're in 2016 after all
[13:30] <Ben64> LibertyWeNeed: could be like "mycompy" or "kitchencomputer" or "fred"
[13:30] <flux242> LibertyWeNeed: type LibertyWeNeed
[13:30] <LibertyWeNeed> So it doesn't really matter?
[13:30] <jatt> LibertyWeNeed: the name you wish for your machine
[13:30] <Ben64> not particularly
[13:30] <LibertyWeNeed> Thank you
[13:33] <LibertyWeNeed> In terms of setting up a webserver, do I need to install firewall software?
[13:33] <ikonia> nope
[13:34] <ikonia> a firewall is nothing to do with a web sever
[13:34] <LibertyWeNeed> So it's built in?
[13:34] <ikonia> nope
[13:37] <jatt> !gufw
[13:37] <flux242> netfilter is built-in right?
[13:38] <flux242> into kernel
[13:38] <ikonia> ut us
[13:38] <ikonia> it is
[13:38] <flux242> so it's yep, not nope
[13:39] <ikonia> no it's not
[13:39] <flux242> what is not?
[13:41] <ikonia> firewalls are not built into webservers and not really anything to do with it, while netfilter is part of the kernel, how you use that functionality will at least require configuration, at worst additional software,
[13:43] <flux242> he asked if firewall is built-in into the system
[13:43] <ikonia> not quite what he really was looking at though if you read the question, but it really doesn't matter,
[13:43] <jatt> !gufw
[13:44] <flux242> ufw is just the netfilter manager
[13:45] <ikonia> it's actually an interface into iptables, not netfilter direct
[13:45] <lordcirth> ufw needs a "remove all" feature.  Last I checked, only way to disable ufw completely was to manually remove the iptables chains
[13:46] <ikonia> you can blank all rules in ufw
[13:46] <lordcirth> ikonia, what's the command?
[13:47] <Gallomimia> i've been running my ubuntu system without swap for a very long time now. never been a problem. i have 16G of ram, and intend to expand to 32 some day. if i put some swap space on my SSD how much is "enough"? recomended?
[13:47] <ikonia> no idea off the top of my head
[13:48] <Gallomimia> probably something like "flush"
[13:48] <ikonia> Gallomimia: no more than 4GB would be needed unless it's a desktop/laptop that you're planning to use suspend on
[13:48] <jatt> 4GB
[13:48] <Gallomimia> no i don't use suspend. 4g is.... tiny.
[13:48] <ikonia> thats more than enough
[13:48] <OerHeks> 32 gb is huge ...
[13:48] <Gallomimia> yes
[13:48] <Gallomimia> 16g is huge
[13:49] <Gallomimia> i'm pretty much always using 25% ram for actual processes, and the rest for cache
[13:49] <lordcirth> Gallomimia, I don't think you need swap at all
[13:49] <jatt> depends what you do with your machine. if you don't crush numbers with it, you probably won't need that much swap
[13:49] <ikonia> swap can be useful even if you don't actually need it
[13:49] <Gallomimia> so, that's pretty awesome.
[13:49] <OerHeks> I'd love to see the difference between 4gb and 32 with a forkbomb
[13:50] <Gallomimia> lordcirth: i agree. i've never had it, in all the time i've had the machine
[13:50] <Gallomimia> but, i do hear swap is used for a few extra things besides paging out
[13:50] <LibertyWeNeed> during the installation of Ubuntu server, according the instructions I was reading it says I am suppose to select "openssh server" from the list and nothing else. I highlighted "openssh server" and hit return on the keyboard. I think I made a mistake, not sure if that meant I selected it. Straight away the installation continued. After installation will I get the chance to select "openssh server" again, incase I didn't do it during installation?
[13:50] <jatt> you can remove it
[13:50] <jatt> after installation
[13:51] <Gallomimia> LibertyWeNeed: no, you probably didn't select it. usually space is to select, enter is to move forward
[13:51] <Vy7au7as> Hello guys, I'm looking help. My wifi time to time have crazy disconnet issues. Can you look how to fix it: http://bit.ly/wifi_problem
[13:51] <Gallomimia> but yes, you can install the open ssh server after
[13:51] <OerHeks> Vy7au7as, again that bit.ly with a log, what wifi? what driver? what ubuntu version ?
[13:52] <LibertyWeNeed>  Gallomimia, that's a relief. I am just really nervous because I have never really used a command line only OS before.
[13:52] <ikonia> please use pastebin.ubuntu.com if you wish to share info
[13:52] <Gallomimia> LibertyWeNeed: well, one thing's for sure. you will get better at command line.
[13:53] <LibertyWeNeed> Gallomimia, thanks for that encouragement
[13:53] <Gallomimia> haha. its my experience and opinion that the only way to truly learn about command line is to be forced to use it for something
[13:53] <Gallomimia> LibertyWeNeed: what are you installing it on? some headless server?
[13:53] <LibertyWeNeed> Virtual Box
[13:54] <Gallomimia> you CAN install the desktop part of the OS after install too
[13:54] <LibertyWeNeed> I am following this guide
[13:54] <LibertyWeNeed> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/11/how-to-set-up-a-safe-and-secure-web-server/
[13:54] <ikonia> LibertyWeNeed: third party guides are normally not very good
[13:54] <ikonia> be aware of terrible guides, %40 of the question in this channel are people following terrible guides
[13:54] <Gallomimia> its my understanding that ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop are identical, except for the installers, and the packages that get installed at the start.
[13:55] <Gallomimia> LibertyWeNeed: also note that it's nearly 4 years old.
[13:55] <Gallomimia> that's a very long time in web technology
[13:55] <LibertyWeNeed> ikonia, so what is a non-thirdparty guide?
[13:55] <ikonia> the ubuntu wiki, the ubuntu help pages
[13:55] <LibertyWeNeed> Gallomimia, I sort of hoped that would be the case because I would be totally lost if there was nothing similar to the desktop and server
[13:56] <Gallomimia> in fact you can probably do all that stuff with the desktop installer too
[13:56] <ikonia> LibertyWeNeed: already that guide is filled with bad info and practices
[13:56] <ikonia> and I'm only on page two of it
[13:56] <Gallomimia> HAH look at the stickers on the servers in that guide!
[13:57] <Gallomimia> aqua teen hunger force baby
[13:57] <Ilmen> Hello; I'm under Ubuntu 14.04 LTS; I've got a problem with Git and Github; When I try to clone or update a repository, I get the following error: "fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/USER/REPOSITORY.git/': server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none".
[13:57] <Ilmen> I figured the certificate of GitHub changed, and tried to update it manually, but to no avail so far.
[13:57] <Ilmen> What's the best way to fix this issue?
[13:58] <ikonia> Ilmen: your certificate chain is messed up
[13:58] <ikonia> CRLfile: "none"
[13:58] <LibertyWeNeed> ikonia & or Gallomimia, would you be able to point me to a guide that you recommend instead? for setting up a web server. Assume I am an absolute beginner at this.
[13:59] <Gallomimia> i don't believe i can no
[13:59] <Ilmen> Okay; I don't know much about SSL and certificates, it's the first time I run into this issue. Formerly I was able to use GitHub with no problem, @ ikonia
[14:00] <Gallomimia> uh, yeah LibertyWeNeed the php module it tells you to use is obsolete.
[14:02] <LibertyWeNeed> Gallomimia, really? I didn't even think I would need PHP for this.
[14:02] <Gallomimia> well, depends on all the stuff you want to do. but php is pretty common for things like wordpress
[14:02] <ducasse> LibertyWeNeed: there are tutorials on the digitalocean website that i know a lot of beginners say are good, but i haven't really looked at them.
[14:02] <Gallomimia> !apache
[14:02] <Gallomimia> try that
[14:03] <LibertyWeNeed> I have lynda.com access, if anyone could recommend a course on their it may help.
[14:03] <Gallomimia> ask the bot for !lamp. that'll get you started
[14:03] <LibertyWeNeed> Gallomimia, I don't understand what you are saying.
[14:03] <Gallomimia> apache has a channel on here too. it's called #httpd
[14:03] <Gallomimia> the bot responds to commands with tidbits of info and links
[14:04] <Gallomimia> !lamp | LibertyWeNeed
[14:04] <Gallomimia> there, im sorry its so spammy
[14:05] <Gallomimia> so... 4gigs of swap is tons eh? hmmm. that leaves a lot on my ssd's for dm-cache
[14:05] <Gallomimia> if only that was a little easier to set up :(
[14:07] <LibertyWeNeed> I am just going to try the guide's way, simply because I need something concrete to follow as I have NEVER done this before.
[14:07] <LibertyWeNeed> If someone has a URL of another guide that is better, feel free to let me know
[14:08] <Ilmen> sudo dpkg-reconfigure ca-certifcates  --->  "ca-certificates isn't installed"
[14:09] <lordcirth> Gallomimia, there are competitors to dm-cache
[14:09] <Gallomimia> well, best install it
[14:09] <Ilmen> sudo apt-get install ca-certificates  --->  ca-certificates is already the most recent version available
[14:09] <Ilmen> lol
[14:09] <Gallomimia> lordcirth: oh yeah? i've been fretting over it terribly. any suggestions?
[14:09] <Gallomimia> Ilmen: haha. don't get stuck in an infinite loop
[14:10] <lordcirth> Gallomimia, bcache, for one
[14:10] <Gallomimia> isn't that for btrfs?
[14:10] <lordcirth> Gallomimia, no, the b is for block
[14:10] <Gallomimia> hm
[14:10] <aWebDev> hi guys, i'm learning bash in ubuntu and was wondering what the difference is between these 2 functions: http://kopy.io/h62uc
[14:11] <Vy7au7as> thats OerHeks, ok my ubuntu it's 16.04.1 x86, with drivers and wifi please give me commands and I give you answers
[14:11] <aWebDev> what do the parentheses add? they seem to do the exact same thing, but sometimes i see functions using them, sometimes i do not
[14:11] <Gallomimia> i do already have device mapper engaged for crypt and LVM so.. i was going to get in on that
[14:11] <Gallomimia> Ilmen: you're reconfiger command spelled certificates wrong. left out an i
[14:11] <Ilmen> Oh
[14:11] <Gallomimia> wow. and i spelled a bunch of stuff wrong
[14:12] <lordcirth> aWebDev, they do what parens usually do in programming - they group things within them together.  In this case, there is no difference, since there is nothing outside
[14:12] <aWebDev> ah i see
[14:14] <flux242> aWebDev: no, he is wron
[14:14] <flux242> g
[14:14] <flux242> there's big difference
[14:14] <aWebDev> sometimes i also see functions using parenthesis with only 1 line, though
[14:15] <aWebDev> could you elaborate flux242x
[14:16] <flux242> execute the code http://kopy.io/LSzsj
[14:16] <aWebDev> oke one moment please
[14:17] <LibertyWeNeed> how do I install open ssh server from the terminal?
[14:17] <GnomeKris> Since I've upgraded to ubuntu 16.04, Steam won't open via the desktop icon. However, if I run "LD_PRELOAD='/usr/$LIB/libstdc++.so.6' DISPLAY=:0 steam" in terminal, it runs fine. How do I make the .desktop file run this when I click it?
[14:18] <GnomeKris> I can't seem to find this information anywhere on google
[14:18] <congdv21> i run my terminal and it is blank, like a terminal, i cann't run my command, Anybody know this problem?
[14:19] <Gallomimia> LibertyWeNeed: sudo apt install openssh
[14:19] <Gallomimia> it might be open-ssh
[14:20] <Gallomimia> but i think... not
[14:20] <Gallomimia> heck it might be openssh-server
[14:20] <flux242> apt-cache search openssh
[14:20] <aWebDev> ah flux242 so you actually stay in the current working directory when using parenthesis
[14:20] <Gallomimia> LibertyWeNeed: there should be an ssh server already installed. this is just a different one. that's.... open-er
[14:21] <aWebDev> is this because it's being executed in a subshell?
[14:21] <flux242> yes
[14:22] <lordcirth> flux242, thanks for the correction.  I guess bash is different
[14:22] <LibertyWeNeed> openssh-server seemed to work
[14:22] <LibertyWeNeed> thanks
[14:23] <LibertyWeNeed> How do i scroll up when my OS is all in command line?
[14:23] <aWebDev> page up ?
[14:25] <aWebDev> (subjective:) what do you guys use as IRC client?
[14:25] <Gallomimia> are you looking at just white text and black screen?
[14:25] <Gallomimia> aWebDev: quassel
[14:25] <lordcirth> aWebDev, hexchat
[14:25] <Ilmen> ikonia, Gallomimia: Okay, I've finally managed to reconfigure my ca-certificates, and I'm able to use git again; thank you for your help. :)
[14:25] <Gallomimia> welcome
[14:26] <aWebDev> Gallomimia lordcirth thanks gonna try out boht
[14:26] <flux242> how could it happen that the certificates get messed up anyway?
[14:27] <MrDrog> part #ubuntu
[14:27] <Gallomimia> maybe try hexchat first. it's easier to set up
[14:27] <aWebDev> ok thanks, brb
[14:28] <jihas> i need help my rpi does not detects my speakers connected through 3.5mm jack
[14:28] <Gallomimia> jihas: you might try #raspberrypi
[14:29] <jihas> im using raspberry pi 3b
[14:29] <Gallomimia> what OS? what audio library?
[14:30] <Gallomimia> what settings have you tried?
[14:30] <jihas> ubuntu mate 16.04
[14:30] <Gallomimia> do you have drivers for the analog audio output installed? (i don't know if you need)
[14:30] <Gallomimia> go to audio settings and look for output devices
[14:30] <jihas> my audio is working through hdmi only
[14:31] <Gallomimia> do you see analog output in audio settngs?
[14:31] <nuno_nunes> this pulseaudio or alsa jihas
[14:31] <jihas> i have tried headphones and speaker using audio jack and it doesnt working
[14:31] <Gallomimia> jihas: there are about 20 details that you haven't provided. we can't help you without them.
[14:31] <jihas> yes
[14:32] <arthur10> hello
[14:32] <Gallomimia> jihas: you have to change the output to analog in settings. it doesn't just change when you plug in
[14:32] <arthur10> good morning for you all
[14:33] <nuno_nunes> jihas, check: https://www.google.pt/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwje67HWj8HOAhXGvhQKHYEAAVkQFggxMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntu-mate.community%2Ft%2Fplayback-issues-on-raspberry-pi-3-youtube-hissssss%2F4442&usg=AFQjCNFVHhAlGXFfYEpcS8Rvo9BPZwdD2Q&bvm=bv.129422649,d.d24
[14:33] <nuno_nunes> ups
[14:33] <nuno_nunes> check: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/playback-issues-on-raspberry-pi-3-youtube-hissssss/4442
[14:34] <jihas> i tried testing speakers in the sound menu under hardware and its not working
[14:34] <jihas> i also tried command to change audio mode
[14:35] <nuno_nunes> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/34810/no-sound-with-rpi-2
[14:35] <jihas> nuno thanks for the link
[14:35] <Gallomimia> audio.... mode?
[14:35] <Gallomimia> set the output device in audio settings
[14:35] <Gallomimia> the menu has audio settings, it will  open
[14:35] <Gallomimia> sound settings... it's called
[14:35] <Gallomimia> output tab
[14:35] <Gallomimia> choose a device for sound output:
[14:35] <jihas> i tried it
[14:35] <nuno_nunes> is commands in last link :)
[14:36] <Gallomimia> built in audio analog stereo
[14:36] <Gallomimia> then.... restart the program playing sound!
[14:36] <Gallomimia> this part is key..
[14:36] <nuno_nunes> amixer cset name='PCM Playback Route' 1
[14:36] <jihas> it shows audio drivers but it does not playing sound
[14:36] <nuno_nunes> amixer controls
[14:36] <LibertyWeNeed> page up and page down are not doing anything
[14:38] <Gallomimia> LibertyWeNeed: in the bare console, there's not really any way to scroll. if you need to see a big block of text, pipe it into less
[14:38] <jihas> same problem exist even when using raspbian
[14:38] <Gallomimia> !less | LibertyWeNeed
[14:38] <Gallomimia> !pipe
[14:38] <Gallomimia> wtf.
[14:38] <LibertyWeNeed> pipe?
[14:38] <Gallomimia> er, pardon my inappropriate language
[14:39] <Gallomimia> pipe
[14:39] <nuno_nunes> jihas, sudo apt-get install libxine2-all-plugins
[14:39] <Gallomimia> you'll need to learn about that for sure
[14:39] <jihas> i tried raspi-config in raspbian and it remains same
[14:39] <Gallomimia> the pipe operator |
[14:39] <ducasse> LibertyWeNeed: try shift+pageup
[14:40] <Gallomimia> LibertyWeNeed: linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[14:40] <OerHeks> !arm
[14:40] <OerHeks> jihas ^^
[14:40] <jihas> thanks nuno i will try
[14:40] <nuno_nunes> i using this a amd64 :p
[14:42] <LibertyWeNeed> SHIFT + PAGE UP is not working
[14:42] <LibertyWeNeed> thanks for the book reference
[14:42] <ducasse> LibertyWeNeed: is this in a terminal emulator?
[14:51] <Gallomimia> no, i think he's looking at the bare console with no GUI
[14:52] <Gallomimia> !desktop
[14:53] <Gallomimia> LibertyWeNeed: you can apt install one of those packages and get a GUI
[14:53] <Gallomimia> i'll use more resources in your VM of course
[14:53] <ikonia> if you want a gui - why not just install the desktop install
[14:53] <ikonia> it has some additional packages that will make some tasks easier out of the box
[14:57] <LibertyWeNeed> Should I just install the Desktop OS?
[14:57] <LibertyWeNeed> and run the server on that?
[14:57] <grf> Why trying to change my mac adress from "enp0s25" it connect me to  enp0s25 ?
[14:58] <akik> LibertyWeNeed: you can use the desktop version as a server just fine
[14:58] <OerHeks> grf, it is not your mac adress, but interface name, eth0 > enpos25
[14:58] <danst> I've made a custom livecd by following instructions on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[14:58] <danst> but unfortunately I don't seem to have module e100
[14:58] <Gallomimia> no sense reinstalling now.just apt install ubuntu-desktop
[14:58] <danst> modprobe reports module not found, is there anything can be done with that? thank you
[14:58] <OerHeks> grf with SystemD there is a change, predictable interface naming > https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[15:00] <grf> OerHeks I know  that enp0s25 it's just a name for eth0. But I have a script to chane my mac adress, ifconfig enp0s25 hw ether xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx    but after ifconfig enp0s25 up it connect me to enp0s25 and no connection yet
[15:00] <grf> change*
[15:01] <grf> I'll try to change enp0s25 to eth0 see what happened
[15:03] <LibertyWeNeed> akik, great! I'll do that. Because using the command interface for everything, is too much for me to do right now. I need more time to grasp the basic concepts of how to run a server before I go there.
[15:04] <ikonia> its not just a name for eth0
[15:04] <ikonia> eth0 is obsolete and not referenced
[15:04] <ikonia> LibertyWeNeed: just instal ubuntu from the desktop installer
[15:04] <ikonia> LibertyWeNeed: you don't need a "server" install to run a server
[15:05] <dan_fulea> hi all
[15:07] <dan_fulea> this is a frustrated user, (not because of ubuntu, just because of the mate bindings), ubuntu mate running, mate-terminal replaced konsole and konsole no longer works, then F12 is doing something strange, pops up a terminal, then i disabled it, and when using F12 in emacs (for a slash, emacs binding) then *emacs disappears*
[15:07] <LibertyWeNeed> understood iKonia
[15:07] <LibertyWeNeed> thanks
[15:10] <kittykitty> anyone know why the memory reported by gnome-system-monitor is so different than top?
[15:12] <onat> how do I match new line character in nano ?
[15:12] <onat> \n or \r doesn't work for regex.
[15:13] <LibertyWeNeed> what command is for shutting down?
[15:16] <OerHeks> LibertyWeNeed, with 16.04/systemd you can do  systemctl poweroff
[15:16] <kittykitty> LibertyWeNeed, sudo shutdown -P -t now
[15:17] <kittykitty> sorry that should be -H not -t lol
[15:17] <kittykitty> or actually, you can just use -P. You dont need h
[15:18] <dan_fulea> ok, i disabled everything, F12 works now in emacs
[15:26] <rangergord> hmm, Launchpad login on askUbuntu is pretty confusing. It needs the Launchpad USERNAME, which LP never requires the user to select.  None of that info lets you use AskUbuntu. You have to go in your LP account profile to see what your username was automatically set to (in my case, the first part of my email, with dots replaced by dashes).
[15:33] <danst> to reply my own question – apt-get install linux-image-extra-
[15:34] <danst> in case that's somewhere logged and will be useful for some googling guy
[15:35] <urgodfather> hello room, I'm debating between a dell power vault md3200i and an equallogic ps3000. can someone advise which is better?
[15:35] <urgodfather> i know this isn't the appropriate channel but i figured some of you guys may have experience with these products
[15:36] <EriC^^> urgodfather: try ##hardware
[15:39] <fsxh> hi
[15:40] <fsxh> hi
[15:41] <EriC^^> hi
[15:53] <bipul> Hi, where i can reset my umask value in my ubuntu? i checked with .bashrc and /etc/profile, but i don't get any such things.
[15:55] <v1kt0r> lol sup?
[15:58] <Guest94828> how to install mate tweak
[15:59] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install mate-tweak
[16:00] <OerHeks> it is in the universe repos, be sure you enabled it in your sources
[16:00] <OerHeks> !info mate-tweak
[16:01] <elspru> I don't know how to get unicode fonts to work on my lxterminal. I've tried installing all the fonts I can thing of, setting the locale to en_US.UTF-8 and generating the locale, but still, I just get a bunch of question marks.
[16:02] <jatt> have you set the font in .Xresources
[16:02] <elspru> in rxvt-unicode I can see most of the fonts, but devenagari doesn't show up, even though I installed all of them
[16:02] <elspru> jatt: how do I do that?
[16:04] <jatt> e.g.:
[16:04] <jatt> XTerm*faceName: Consolas
[16:04] <jatt> then xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources
[16:04] <jatt> use your font instead of Consolas
[16:06] <elspru> jatt: oh I dono which font that would be, I work with over 40 different languages..
[16:07] <jatt> well you need to choose one
[16:08] <jatt> the one that supports most unicode glyphs from the 40 languages you use I guess
[16:08] <elspru> jatt: how do I find out which that is?
[16:09] <jatt> try and error?
[16:09] <jatt> I use Consolas and works fine for non-exotic languages
[16:10] <elspru> k I'll see what I can do
[16:10] <wemeetagain> which channel is best for questions about various packages' status of support of the c++11 abi
[16:12] <hiya> is there a Ubuntu hardening guide for 14.04?
[16:12] <hiya> Is it still safe to use?
[16:12] <EriC^^> !hardening
[16:12] <EriC^^> yeah 14.04 is still supported
[16:14] <hiya> EriC^^, Do you know how can I upgrade Ubuntu's Intel graphics drivers like mesa and xorg etc?
[16:15] <EriC^^> !hwe | hiya
[16:24] <jarlath> I've just read help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleshootingGuide but I suspect the problem I'm having may require a module being blacklisted (the signal drops very low over time and looses the connection). Is there a guide on how to identify the conflicting module?
[16:26] <ubuntu173> hey everyone!
[16:26] <ubuntu173> can someone take a look at my 'make' kernel errors
[16:26] <ubuntu173> make[1]: *** [scripts/Makefile.build:402: kernel/time] Error 2
[16:27] <ubuntu173> make[2]: *** [kernel/time/Makefile:32: kernel/time/timeconst.h] Error 127
[16:27] <ducasse> !paste | ubuntu173
[16:27] <OerHeks> ubuntu173, need more info, on what ubuntu, what are you trying to build?
[16:27] <OerHeks> and use paste.ubuntu.com
[16:28] <ubuntu173> kernel/Makefile:133: *** No X.509 certificates found ***   BC      kernel/time/timeconst.h /bin/sh: bc: command not found make[2]: *** [kernel/time/Makefile:32: kernel/time/timeconst.h] Error 127 make[1]: *** [scripts/Makefile.build:402: kernel/time] Error 2 make: *** [Makefile:938: kernel] Error 2 [root@bluewater linux-3.18.39]# make moduels_install make: *** No rule to make target 'moduels_install'.  Stop.
[16:28] <OerHeks> unreadable ..
[16:30] <ubuntu173> https://ghostbin.com/paste/n9ost
[16:30] <ubuntu173> pasted nicely
[16:31] <ubuntu173> all other make build worked fine
[16:32]  * OerHeks waiting for ubuntu version and what is being build
[16:32] <rudra> care to elaborate
[16:32] <rudra> ?
[16:32] <ubuntu173> i have 12.04 but i want to go back to this kernel
[16:32] <rudra> what do you mean by this kernel?
[16:33] <ubuntu173> the 2 errors or make errors maybe but doesnt make error 2 mean there are too many conflics so it wont build?
[16:33] <ubuntu173> i actually require a 3.x or below kernel for a program and driver im trying to run
[16:35] <ubuntu173> but it seams that something is not right in my time? that is causing the error???
[16:36] <hiya> EriC^^, is it possible to install new Gnome officially on Ubuntu 14?
[16:36] <OerHeks> funny, the 1st kernel for precise was v3.1.5-precise/ , why build it yourself ?? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[16:37] <OerHeks> !mainline
[16:37] <ubuntu173> i have many customisation on the kernel im trying to build and i do not want to take the mainline
[16:37] <ducasse> ubuntu173: did you see '/bin/sh: bc: command not found' in there? that might be why it fails.
[16:38] <Anekdotin> anyone get rocket leaque to work on ubuntu
[16:39] <ubuntu173> ducasse: /bin/sh is files missing from being created or an actual program im missing??
[16:39] <ducasse> ubuntu173: it can't find 'bc'.
[16:39] <jeffrey_f> HI, I'm running Mate.  somehow I have a 1/2 screen terminal and can't exit.  it may be something with one of the function keys I pressed, but which one??
[16:40] <ubuntu173> yes i dont have bc im installing now
[16:41] <ubuntu173> lets try to make now
[16:42] <jeffrey_f> I found it...nevermind
[16:42] <ubuntu173> ducasse: you have solved my debokal
[16:43] <ubuntu173> ducasse: the build process has continued :)
[16:43] <ducasse> ubuntu173: good :)
[16:43] <OerHeks> :-)
[16:43] <EriC^^> hiya: maybe from a ppa
[16:43] <EriC^^> hiya: dont know how well it would work though
[16:44]  * OerHeks wonders what version 'new gnome' is
[16:44] <hiya> 3.20
[16:44] <hiya> is the latest
[16:45] <ducasse> hiya: be aware that gtk 3.20 breaks several gtk applications you might be using...
[16:46] <k1l_> hiya: "officially"? no. gnome 3.20 never was released on the releasedate of 14.04. it didnt even make it to 16.04
[16:46] <OerHeks> gnome staging ppa, gives 3.12 for trusty .. https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3-staging?field.series_filter=trusty
[16:47] <OerHeks> hiya, then you want to upgrade to 16.04, and use that ppa
[16:48] <hiya> So 3.10 is the best Gnome 14.04 would get?
[16:48] <k1l_> !info gnome-shell  trusty
[16:48] <OerHeks> hiya, without ppa, yes
[16:48] <k1l_> 3.10 it was officially released with.
[16:49] <hiya> Ok
[16:49] <hiya> It is running fine, I have no complaints
[16:50] <hiya> Does Ubuntu install any non-free software by default?
[16:50] <hiya> I only want to use Free/Libre/open packages other than the kernel which includes some non-free
[16:50] <OerHeks> besides parts of the kernel, no
[16:50] <hiya> Ok
[16:51] <hiya> which all repo has fully free software?
[16:51] <hiya> Main and ?
[16:51] <tgm4883> hiya: universe
[16:53] <halbarad> hey everyone. after upgrading a notebook from 14.04 to 16.04 it fails booting now with the message "The system is running in low-graphics mode. Your screen, graphics card and input device settings could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourself."
[16:54] <OerHeks> halbarad, what GPu are yu using? is there a driver available? open terminal:  sudo ubuntu-drivers list
[16:55] <OerHeks> or does it not boot at all to login ?
[16:56] <halbarad> OerHeks: GPU is an ATI RS880M ... the Xorg logfile says: "RADEON(0): [drm] Failed to open DRM device for pci:0000:01:05.0: No such file or directory"
[16:58] <OerHeks> older card, Mobility Radeon HD 42xx. it should work fine with the open radeon driver
[16:58] <RamonT430s> hi guys, is it always recommended to set a passphrase for my ssh key, or can i sometimes just use no passphrase? for example in this case where i have a laptop on which i sometimes do some small\ personal projects
[16:59] <halbarad> OerHeks: sudo ubuntu-drivers list gives "amd64-microcode" and "bcmwl-kernel-source"
[17:00] <ubuntu173> what does [M] mean when doing a kernel build?
[17:02] <halbarad> i think it was using fglrx before the update, but radeon seems to be used now... it doesn't seem to work though
[17:04] <OerHeks> halbarad, i find no quick solution, did you try to update ?
[17:05] <halbarad> OerHeks: i think i did do an apt-get update + upgrade
[17:07] <ubuntu173> thanks everyone
[17:07] <ubuntu173> i maybe back for the make moduels_install but thanks for getting me this far
[17:08] <hiya> !cve
[17:08] <k1l_> !usn | hiya
[17:09] <hiya> Ok thanks k1l_
[17:09] <k1l_> halbarad: what kernel are you on? "uname -a" will tell you
[17:09] <Ice_Strike> scp -t /root/.folder/something.sh
[17:09] <Ice_Strike> HOw do I find out where it is connecting to?
[17:11] <halbarad> k1l_: 3.13.0-92-generic  (do you need the complete line? sorry i can't copy paste since the notebook is next root on lan cable)
[17:11] <k1l_> halbarad: that is the 14.04 kernel. are you on 14.04?
[17:12] <Penorsaurus> so I have a hard drive inside my ubuntu server
[17:12] <Penorsaurus> but df -h doesn't find it
[17:12] <Penorsaurus> any suggestions?
[17:12] <halbarad> k1l_: it should have upgraded to 16.04 ... it was 14.04 before
[17:12] <k1l_> Penorsaurus: "sudo parted -l |nc termbin.com 9999" show the output url please
[17:14] <k1l_> halbarad: make sure "linux-generic xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-video-all" are installed
[17:14] <Penorsaurus> k1l_, I think I actually got it
[17:14] <Penorsaurus> let me see and if not, I'll try your thing
[17:15] <halbarad> k1l_: i'll check that, thanks, might take a moment
[17:15] <patrask> hiya: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/ may also be of interest if you care for vulns that hasn't been fixed in ubuntu
[17:16] <k1l_> patrask: that cve tracker is linked on the usn website
[17:16] <patrask> ah okay
[17:17] <halbarad> k1l_: xserver-xorg-core and xserver-xorg were installed... the others are being installed now
[17:18] <hiya> patrask, OMG, my old distro did not fix that curl issue too
[17:20] <halbarad> k1l_: linux-generic and xserver-xorg-video-all are now installed too. should i just try rebooting?
[17:20] <k1l_> halbarad: yes. that should bring you the 4.4 kernel
[17:26] <NET||abuse> god it's so hard to choose a wiki, i've been through wikimatrix and the only one that really does what i want is dokuwiki, but it's so old looking now, i'ts a little embarassing.
[17:26] <halbarad> k1l_: ok, it boots to the desktop now. thanks! but it spams error messages "A problem with a system application has been detected" (rough translation from german)
[17:27] <k1l_> that could be from the last boots where it didnt boot properly
[17:27] <k1l_> *left
[17:30] <halbarad> hm, when i chose "report" i got another message "sorry, ubuntu 16.04 detected an internal error" (translated from german) ... should i just reboot again and hope it's gone?
[17:30] <k1l_> yes
[17:33] <A_agileCert> hello, some one know easy guide to java for emacs for a complete ide ? tnks
[17:37] <Ice_Strike> scp -t /root/.folder/something.sh
[17:37] <Ice_Strike> HOw do I find out where it is connecting to?
[17:39] <halbarad> k1l_: booting takes longer now, but the errors are gone. thank you! (just so i understand: the 16.04 update got interrupted somehow and a few packages were not updated?)
[17:40] <k1l_> halbarad: yes. seems like the upgrade missed to install the 16.04 kernel and xorg stuff due to missing meta packages
[17:41] <k1l_> Ice_Strike: scp -t is the receiver, not the sender.
[17:42] <Ice_Strike> k1l_ Sorry my mistake. Yes how do I find out which receiver connection is using?
[17:42] <halbarad> k1l_: ok good to know. it would've taken forever for me to figure that out. you rock. have a nice day.
[17:43] <k1l_> halbarad: no problem
[17:43] <k1l_> Ice_Strike: i guess the admin panel main server. you really should ask the admin panel guys how their setup works.
[17:44] <Ice_Strike> k1l_ That wasnt my question but thanks.
[17:44] <idzireit> I have a java program sent to me by my cousin that I need to import into eclipse.  Having a hard time using the IDE's import function
[17:45] <fenyx> Hi, sorry for being a liitle bit long but I have to explain context. I've upgraded my comp from a thinkpad T420 i5 to a T430 i7 and I wished to transfer the HDD a lazy way.
[17:45] <fenyx> So I've uninstalled the only proprietary driver before switching, Nvidia one (Optimus disabled in BIOS, always discreete is selected).
[17:45] <fenyx> I made a Clonezilla image of my HDD, restored it to the new disk, everything seems ok but the Ubuntu boot is stuck at the "Starting Backlight (...) backlight:nv_blacklight" line.
[17:45] <fenyx> I've thought about adding "nomodeset" in kernel boot command but I'ld like to have your opinion before doing it. Should I do something else?
[17:45] <fenyx> And any idea why it tells me about nv while I've uninstalled the driver (I think it should be managed by 'nouveau' driver now)?
[17:52] <jemadux> when lts will take the 4.7 kernel ?
[17:59] <fenyx> May I have posted in the wrong channel? :-)
[18:01] <idzireit> wouldnt know.  I am new to this myself so still learning what is what
[18:01] <idzireit> not even sure how to switch channels lol
[18:02] <fenyx> ;) we're all still at Ubuntu university