[06:03] <albert> how to i access the interface to costumize samba? (it was something like kcenter...)
[06:03] <orange_> ive read every thread in ubuntuforum.org / kubuntuforums.org
[06:03] <flaccid> albert: its in kcontrol
[06:03] <orange_> i tried all those solutions and guides
[06:03] <albert> you're my hero
[06:03] <flaccid> orange_: including the one i pasted ?
[06:03] <orange_> yep
[06:03] <ubuntu> the 80 GB disk has only documents and its trying to boot from there
[06:04] <orange_> i was looking at that one before i got on irc
[06:04] <abadtooth> Ok, well I think it's time to just give up
[06:04] <orange_> since swat is running in my process list but not listening in netstat -lt
[06:04] <flaccid> orange_: interesting
[06:04] <orange_> what can mess it between
[06:04] <flaccid> i'm trying it now
[06:05] <orange_> flaccid:  /etc/services - had swat already enabled for 901/tcp
[06:05] <flaccid> it will work without that
[06:05] <flaccid> thats just known ports
[06:06] <orange_> flaccid: I just have 1 theory - does swat create a folder inside /etc/init.d/swat
[06:06] <flaccid> i have the same issue as you organge
[06:06] <flaccid> don't know
[06:06] <orange_> flaccid:  folder at*
[06:06] <flaccid> this is interesting
[06:07] <flaccid> i guess just another broken ubuntu package like a lot of them..
[06:07] <Hasrat_USA> should i change the clock tonight at 2 am?
[06:08] <orange_> flaccid: Spent over 8 hours on swat - driving me crazy -- might just be better to suck it up and edit smb.conf manually
[06:08] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: What do you mean it craps out?
[06:09] <flaccid> orange_: here is the solution: http://www.jonhoweonline.com/blog/node/87
[06:09] <Dr_willis> orange_,  gesh.. ya could of read that using samba book about 3 times.. in that time
[06:09] <Dr_willis> and learned whats going on. :)
[06:09] <flaccid> that worked for me and yes it would help if ubuntu could package things correctly so this shit doesn't happen...
[06:09] <orange_> flaccid: does kubuntu come with a firewall enabled - blocking ports?
[06:09] <flaccid> orange_: nope
[06:09] <flaccid> thats not the problem
[06:09] <Dr_willis> i dont think swat is a reccomended way to configure samba much these days
[06:09] <flaccid> nah swat is good and its fine
[06:09] <Dr_willis> I dont see any swat file in the init.d dir either
[06:10] <flaccid> the link i pasted installs what is not dependent that should be for package swat
[06:10] <orange_> flaccid: ill give that link a read - sec
[06:10] <flaccid> it works for me
[06:10] <flaccid> and that was after a apt-get install swat
[06:11] <Dr_willis> what is the port# for swat anyway
[06:11] <flaccid> port# ?
[06:11] <flaccid> oh
[06:11] <flaccid> 901
[06:11] <Cobra_Bubbles> hey, sweet
[06:11] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: PIng
[06:11] <Cobra_Bubbles> Sorry bout earlier... I got called away to do some chores
[06:11] <Dr_willis> its not showing up here on 901.
[06:11] <Dr_willis> perhapos it needs to be ebealbed in the samba.conf
[06:12] <flaccid> no its independeant Dr
[06:12] <flaccid> is it running ?
[06:12] <orange_> is it /etc/init.d restart   ?
[06:13] <flaccid> i ran it manually as they havnt even created a service script
[06:13] <flaccid> as in /usr/sbin/swat  then backgroudned it
[06:13] <Dr_willis> i see no init.d/swat service
[06:13] <Dr_willis> yea.. i noticed that flaccid   odd.
[06:13] <flaccid> yeah no init.d script for swat
[06:13] <abadtooth> Daskreech I mean is just gives an error and goes to the command line
[06:13] <flaccid> yeah it would be nice if they did make one
[06:13] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: What error?
[06:14] <firemonkeyballz> !alsa
[06:14] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:14] <Dr_willis> http://localhost:901   should go to swat page.. but it aint doing it.. or am i confused.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> i ran 'swat' :)
[06:16] <Hasrat_USA> dr whwn should i change my pc clock?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> crimsun: ping
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Hasrat_USA,  it should change automaticially
[06:17] <crimsun> DaSkreech: describe your host and chroot configurations.
[06:17] <DaSkreech> crimsun: I think my sound may be not working in the non chroot
[06:17] <unix_infidel> anyone here running feisty alphas?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> crimsun: host is ubuntu chroot is kubuntu
[06:17] <abadtooth> xserver-xorgpostin
[06:17] <Dr_willis> unix_infidel,  it keeps wanting to upgrade to feisty.. but it aint doing it.. :)
[06:17] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: Hmm
[06:17] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: i'm still on dapper.
[06:17] <unix_infidel> lol
[06:18] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: ok can you do a less /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look under devices and tell me if it looks alright
[06:18] <abadtooth> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwiting possibly-customized configuration file; backup in..yayaya
[06:18] <Hasrat_USA> dr i'm not on windows
[06:18] <DaSkreech> crimsun: I did a cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp on both
[06:18] <Hasrat_USA> i'm running edgy
[06:19] <DaSkreech> It kinda crackles on the host does nothing for the chroot
[06:19] <crimsun> DaSkreech: ``dpkg --print-architecture'' in both is important
[06:19] <unix_infidel> i'm hoping the new fiesty will be a MUCh better transition to new init system they are using.
[06:19] <Hasrat_USA> i cant go back to win for religious reasons
[06:19] <firemonkeyballz> ooh boy...
[06:19] <unix_infidel> if it isnt, i'm switching back to debian.
[06:19] <firemonkeyballz> ummm midi isnt enabled
[06:19] <firemonkeyballz> heh
[06:20] <DaSkreech> crimsun: Identical
[06:20] <DaSkreech> i386
[06:21] <crimsun> DaSkreech: does audio work properly on the host?
[06:21] <unix_infidel> many people had problems with edgy and i couldnt bring myself to pull the trigger.
[06:21] <DaSkreech> crimsun: I.. don't know really
[06:21] <crimsun> DaSkreech: ...
[06:21] <DaSkreech> I don't think it does now
[06:21] <DaSkreech> I don't know how to play things in cli in ubuntu
[06:21] <crimsun> wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:21] <spitwise>  ya i downgraded back to dapper :/
[06:21] <crimsun> I'm leaving work; I'll be back in 20 minutes.
[06:22] <DaSkreech> crimsun: Groovy
[06:22] <flaccid> sorry im afk atm bbs
[06:22] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: it crashes and over writes the file?
[06:22] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: try startx
[06:23] <abadtooth> I get a fatal error
[06:23] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:23] <DaSkreech> do a less /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:24] <DaSkreech> look at the devices section
[06:24] <DaSkreech>  tell me if it looks valid
[06:24] <abadtooth> type less /ect/X11/xorg.conf?
[06:24] <firemonkeyballz> think I may have a solution alc883
[06:25] <firemonkeyballz> buh its in slackware
[06:25] <firemonkeyballz> grr
[06:25] <abadtooth> I type that in, but it does ntoing
[06:25] <abadtooth> says no such file or dir
[06:27] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: etc
[06:27] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: tab is your friend
[06:27] <makuseru> abadtooth: you ping me?
[06:28] <abadtooth> whats tab do?
[06:28] <Cobra_Bubbles> Sigh
[06:28] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, how can I get rid of grub?
[06:28] <Cobra_Bubbles> If it's not one thing, it's another
[06:29] <Cobra_Bubbles> Now, I have no sound
[06:29] <|Jason8|> I want to revert back to the standard Windows bootloader and drop grub.
[06:29] <|Jason8|> Then I can work from there.
[06:29] <DaSkreech> !tab
[06:29] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:30] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: oh I see
[06:30] <DaSkreech> |Jason8|: You don't want to use LInux anymore?
[06:31] <firemonkeyballz> firemonkeyballz@fmbllz-inc:~$ modprobe snd-alc883
[06:31] <firemonkeyballz> FATAL: Module snd_alc883 not found.
[06:31] <firemonkeyballz> well thats confusing
[06:31] <firemonkeyballz> how do I get sound
[06:31] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[06:31] <firemonkeyballz> if i have sound
[06:31] <|Jason8|> DaSkreech, I love linux, but grub's giving me problems.  so I want to start at Ground Zero
[06:32] <|Jason8|> maybe I can fix this stuff then
[06:32] <DaSkreech> !lilo
[06:32] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[06:32] <abadtooth> |Jason8|: have you used lilo?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> What kind of problems?
[06:32] <makuseru> |Jason8|: you can download the super grub disk
[06:32] <|Jason8|> I keep getting error 15
[06:32] <|Jason8|> kernel not installed or something
[06:32] <firemonkeyballz> lilo is old
[06:32] <|Jason8|> totally renders that computer useless.
[06:32] <firemonkeyballz> verry olllld
[06:33] <makuseru> |Jason8|: you can download the super grub disk
[06:33] <DaSkreech> |Jason8|: can you get it to boot?
[06:33] <|Jason8|> super grub disk, eh?
[06:33] <makuseru> !grub
[06:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:33] <|Jason8|> DaSkreech, no.  The menu doesn't even come up
[06:33] <makuseru> its in the first link there
[06:33] <makuseru> itll fix grub, just about what ever the problem is
[06:34] <abadtooth> does beryl come with ubuntu-Kubuntu?
[06:34] <DaSkreech> |Jason8|: So really you want to fix grub
[06:34] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: no
[06:34] <DaSkreech> !beryl
[06:34] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:34] <Hasrat_USA> hey guys i have just found out a trick in Beryl that can save you your job at workplace !! :)
[06:34] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: have you done the less command yet?
[06:34] <Hasrat_USA> for example you're watching pron. now if your boss comes near you, all you gotta do is press the right mouse button and then roll the mouse wheel down and everything on the screen will simply vanish :)
[06:34] <Hasrat_USA> oll the mouse wheel up while pressing the right mouse button to restore everything :)
[06:34] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: yes
[06:34] <abadtooth> DaSkreech:  it's all messed up
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_USA: I have a better idea. Do work and get a raise so you can do that at home :)
[06:35] <|Jason8|> DaSkreech, yeah.  it'd be nice to make that computer boot again.
[06:35] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: Define messed up
[06:35] <firemonkeyballz> screech is it just me or does kopete not support aim
[06:35] <abadtooth> DaSkreech:  my nvidia card is nowhere to be seen..
[06:35] <Hasrat_USA> well daskreech the method applies at home too if you have parents sisters siblings etc lurking around :)
[06:36] <firemonkeyballz> hasart you could just back up everything in a tarball
[06:36] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: Right. What about the other one?
[06:36] <abadtooth> intel piece of just
[06:36] <abadtooth> junk*
[06:37] <Hasrat_USA> omg what do you mean lol fire
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_USA: Heh at home you should be proud of whatever you do :)
[06:37] <firemonkeyballz> case the inocent change things
[06:37] <|Jason8|> makuseru, I've tried that.  When I type "find /boot/grub/stage1", it replies with an error 15.  No device there or something like that
[06:37] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: What happens if you plug the video card onto the Intel port?
[06:37] <|Jason8|> FIle not found?
[06:38] <Hasrat_USA> fire seriously, in beryl you press the right button of yar mouse and roll the wheel down and everything vanishes magically. u won't believe your eyes
[06:38] <abadtooth> DaSkreech:  how would I go about doing that? the intel one is soldered to the MOBO
[06:38] <aj_> wow herd 5 is pretty buggy
[06:38] <firemonkeyballz> well im not there yet
[06:38] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: Whooops i mean the monitor
[06:38] <Hasrat_USA> fire you would be there eventually :P
[06:38] <firemonkeyballz> and I just know  you can terminate the kernal easily
[06:39] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: oh that makes sense
[06:39] <orange_> if i created a swat file inside /etc/xinetd.d using nano -- do i need to add special flags using chmod or such?
[06:39] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) value?
[06:39] <DaSkreech> aj_: point that out in #kubuntu-devel
[06:39] <Hasrat_USA> fire the playboy mansion wasn't built in a day you know :)
[06:39] <firemonkeyballz> ture
[06:39] <Hasrat_USA> lol
[06:39] <warewolf_> Anyone able to help me trace what is causing my system to freeze?
[06:39] <Hasrat_USA> i shoulda said Rome
[06:39] <firemonkeyballz> im just happy that I have a linux distro thats close enough to work
[06:39] <DaSkreech> warewolf_: Latent microsoftisms
[06:39] <firemonkeyballz> stable
[06:40] <Hasrat_USA> whatcha got fire?
[06:40] <firemonkeyballz> and is recoverable
[06:40] <firemonkeyballz> 6.06
[06:40] <Hasrat_USA> bs
[06:40] <firemonkeyballz> havent had any problems yet
[06:40] <Hasrat_USA> can't ya download edgy?
[06:40] <warewolf_> DaSkreech: That doesn't help =P It seems to start after I've had one of the 'buntu's on my system after a few days..
[06:40] <Hasrat_USA> oh ok
[06:40] <firemonkeyballz> just fixing the ones I kno
[06:40] <DaSkreech> warewolf_: What's it doing?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> makuseru: are you helping |Jason8| ?
[06:41] <warewolf_> DaSkreech: And it seems to only happen when I have both wireless and Beryl running.. but not one or the other.. everything but the mouse will lock, can't switch to any terminals, power down..
[06:42] <DaSkreech> warewolf_: Hmm ask in #ubuntu-effects if anyone knows what's going on
[06:42] <|Jason8|> lol
[06:42] <makuseru> DaSkreech: well he said he tried my way and got an error
[06:42] <firemonkeyballz> edgy wont be non alpha till april
[06:42] <makuseru> and thats all i got
[06:42] <DaSkreech> makuseru: That's not answering my question :)
[06:42] <makuseru> haha, well i guess not since thats all i had
[06:42] <scotty> abadtooth: ?
[06:42] <|Jason8|> Hrm.
[06:42] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: doesn't do anything... no output
[06:43] <abadtooth> scotty: yeah?
[06:43] <scotty> [23:26:43]  [CTCP]  Received CTCP-PING request from abadtooth to channel #kubuntu, sending answer.
[06:43] <|Jason8|> hrm
[06:43] <|Jason8|> I think I figured out a problem
[06:43] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: ok hold on
[06:43] <|Jason8|> my swap file is on the drive I want to format.
[06:43] <DaSkreech> !video
[06:43] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:43] <firemonkeyballz> yeSSS found drivers!!!
[06:43] <|Jason8|> I only have 384 MB of RAM
[06:43] <firemonkeyballz> weee
[06:43] <|Jason8|> so it spills over into the swapfile
[06:44] <scotty> brb
[06:44] <firemonkeyballz> this guy has a acer 5051 and has drivers
[06:44] <firemonkeyballz> yey
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Right that's what the swap file is for
[06:44] <firemonkeyballz> !!!
[06:44] <firemonkeyballz> buh their analog drivers
[06:44] <firemonkeyballz> dang it
[06:44] <firemonkeyballz> all well
[06:44] <|Jason8|> DaSkreech, but then the installation modifies that hard drive, including the partiton.
[06:44] <|Jason8|> so it runs out of memory.
[06:45] <DaSkreech> |Jason8|: *blinks* Oh wait this is live CD?
[06:45] <|Jason8|> Is there a way I can partition first and install later?
[06:45] <|Jason8|> Yes, LiveCD
[06:45] <|Jason8|> Trying to install
[06:45] <makuseru> qt or g parted
[06:45] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) value?
[06:45] <Midspeed> hi everybody
[06:46] <Midspeed> i am using kubuntu 6.10 dapper drake
[06:46] <Midspeed> and i would like to upgrade to the latest version of kubuntu, where can i get the latest repository???
[06:47] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[06:47] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:47] <chavo> Midspeed, well dapper drake is 6.06
[06:47] <chavo> 6.10 is edgy
[06:47] <Hasrat_USA> wait until april 7th
[06:47] <spitwise> edgy upgrade slightly sketchy
[06:47] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: I have to go :(
[06:47] <Midspeed> oh sorry i have edgy :)
[06:47] <spitwise> ive read the install is just grand though
[06:47] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: ask someone how to make dpkg-reconfigure use a specific video card
[06:48] <chavo> the next upgrade is feisty which is still not even beta yet
[06:48] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: thats ok, I don't care to ever try kubuntu ever again anyways
[06:48] <flaccid> lol
[06:48] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: alright :) I don't know if it's the edgy CD anymore. I'll look into it
[06:48] <warewolf__> DaSkreech: Are there any logs I can check to maybe get a clue whats going on? It's been years since I've actively used linux..
[06:48] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: You have mandriva Cds?
[06:48] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: yes
[06:49] <DaSkreech> warewolf__: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:49] <orange_> flaccid: that package didnt fix it ;(
[06:49] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: they work?
[06:49] <abadtooth> da they work fine
[06:49] <Midspeed> can somebody show me where to find the latest kubuntus repository list
[06:49] <flaccid> orange_: did you run the binary manually?
[06:49] <abadtooth> I want beryl though
[06:49] <orange_> how
[06:49] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: Ok. use that then. I'll try and find out if the Feisty CDs will pick up the right Video card maybe in the future we can entice you back again :)
[06:49] <chavo> Midspeed, the upgrade to feisty is not recommended
[06:50] <orange_>  flaccid /usr/sbin/swat
[06:50] <flaccid> um /usr/sbin/swat
[06:50] <flaccid> yes
[06:50] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: possibly
[06:50] <Midspeed> oh ok, thanks chavo
[06:50] <orange_> it jus stalls the terminal
[06:50] <orange_> ill do it again
[06:50] <flaccid> orange_: that means its running
[06:50] <Midspeed> yeah thats what happend when i tried by doing it through adept
[06:50] <flaccid> ctrl + z to background it
[06:50] <flaccid> then check ps aux and netstat
[06:50] <DaSkreech> abadtooth: Sorry about that
[06:51] <chavo> Midspeed, I run feisty here but the upgrade is a little rocky at the moment
[06:51] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: it's ok
[06:51] <Midspeed> ok
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Dell sucks yes yes I know
[06:51] <Midspeed> i will just wait until its more stable
[06:51] <flaccid> i don't think ubuntu will ever be stable
[06:51] <orange_> flaccid: netstat -lt shows nothing for port 901 or swat
[06:51] <abadtooth> DaSkreech: yes they do!
[06:51] <chavo> only a couple more weeks till final
[06:51] <flaccid> orange_: is swat running in ps aux ?
[06:52] <abadtooth> I hope goobuntu is better...
[06:53] <abadtooth> Google will pawn micro$oft!!!
[06:53] <orange_> flaccid: whats the full cmd with | grep
[06:53] <flaccid> ps aux | grep swat
[06:53] <flaccid> although mind you mine seemed to be enventually absorbed by xinetd
[06:53] <abadtooth> Anyways I've just wasted 5 hours of my life trying to install kubuntu
[06:53] <abadtooth> cya all later
[06:53] <flaccid> abadtooth: tahts pretty normal
[06:53] <flaccid> cya
[06:54] <|Jason8|> I clicked on a drive to partition and it gave me an error "The information sector has the wrong signature" and now qtparted is hanging.
[06:54] <orange_> root      4976  0.0  0.0   8088  2016 pts/0    S+   00:50   0:00 /usr/sbin/swat
[06:54] <orange_> root      5005  0.0  0.0   2800   768 pts/1    S+   00:53   0:00 grep swat
[06:54] <flaccid> can you access it localhost in web browser?
[06:54] <flaccid> or do a lynx http://locahost:901/
[06:55] <flaccid> or do a lynx http://localhost:901/
[06:55] <orange_> k
[06:55] <orange_> lynx is a cmd or just slang?
[06:56] <flaccid> its a cmd
[06:56] <flaccid> but you need it installed
[06:56] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install lynx
[06:56] <flaccid> otherwise try web browser in X on the same machine running swat
[06:56] <orange_> tried firefox / kde browser
[06:57] <orange_> something interesting with lynx
[06:57] <Skuller> !lynx | Skuller
[06:58] <orange_> lynx: Can't access startfile http://localhost:901/
[06:58] <flaccid> you dont get tcp        0      0 *:swat                  *:*                     LISTEN     - in netstat -tap ?
[06:58] <orange_> nope
[06:58] <flaccid> ah well
[06:58] <flaccid> the extra steps in that site worked for me
[06:59] <orange_> flaccid: dont give up :(
[06:59] <flaccid> i don't know why it doesn't work for you
[06:59] <flaccid> i give up because ubuntu is shit. they can't package something to save their lives
[07:00] <flaccid> all i can suggest is killing swat
[07:00] <flaccid> and running it agin for it was run before you did the extra steps in that page i pasted
[07:00] <orange_> something changed
[07:01] <orange_> the shell i ran the cmd /usr/sbin/swat  -- displayed this and stopped stalling
[07:01] <orange_> Alarm clock
[07:01] <flaccid> i got that too
[07:02] <flaccid> wtf that was i dunno
[07:02] <orange_> can u show me ur xinetd.conf and inetd.conf files
[07:02] <flaccid> no i havnt touched them
[07:03] <flaccid> i run swat without xinetd
[07:03] <orange_> i have - so i want to try the original
[07:03] <orange_> or see the differences
[07:03] <orange_> i gonna uninstall xinetd as i dont really need it
[07:04] <warewolf__> Can I comment the WACOM stuff out of my x.org?
[07:04] <teufel> Hello is there anybody here willing to help me set up kubuntu for multimedia
[07:04] <teufel> i can play any .avi files
[07:04] <teufel> sorry cant
[07:04] <teufel> i cant play any .avi files
[07:04] <flaccid> orange_: you don't want to do that. it serves a lot of stuff...
[07:04] <|Jason8|> install that one repository thing.
[07:05] <flaccid> warewolf__: yes
[07:05] <teufel> i did
[07:05] <orange_> i jus installed it for swat
[07:05] <|Jason8|> multiverse or universe or whatever
[07:05] <orange_> i was originally on inetd
[07:05] <flaccid> !multimedia ? teufel
[07:05] <teufel> ok how do i enable universe and multiverse
[07:05] <flaccid> !multimedia  > teufel
[07:05] <flaccid> !repos > teufel
[07:06] <warewolf__> flaccid: Can I just comment the lines from "server layout" to kill them all?
[07:06] <flaccid> !baddevice
[07:06] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[07:06] <flaccid> read that warewolf__
[07:06] <warewolf__> flaccid: Thanks!
[07:07] <flaccid> np
[07:07] <orange_> flaccid: I just want to try this last theory out - let me match ur settings in inetd.conf
[07:07] <flaccid> no
[07:07] <orange_> ok
[07:07] <flaccid> you don't understand. it has nothing to do with inetd.conf
[07:08] <flaccid> the only thing you should have in inetd.conf is
[07:08] <flaccid> swat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat
[07:09] <flaccid> except the header comment..
[07:09] <flaccid> maybe you need to run it under root i dunno
[07:09] <orange_> run what under root?
[07:09] <flaccid> 1sec
[07:09] <orange_> i did the lynx cmd on root shell
[07:11] <flaccid> orange_: is that line in your inetd.conf?
[07:11] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) value?
[07:12] <flaccid> orange_: try this: killall swat;  sudo killall swat; /etc/init.d/inetd restart; lynx http://localhost:901
[07:12] <flaccid> let me know what lynx says
[07:14] <orange__> sry about that -- power just went out -- freaky stuff maybe dlst relate
[07:15] <flaccid> [2007-03-11 17:12]  <flaccid> orange_: try this: killall swat;  sudo killall swat; /etc/init.d/inetd restart; lynx http://localhost:901
[07:15] <flaccid> [2007-03-11 17:12]  <flaccid> let me know what lynx says
[07:15] <flaccid> and is
[07:15] <flaccid>  swat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat
[07:15] <flaccid> in your inetd.conf ?
[07:15] <orange__> swat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat
[07:15] <orange__> i have 2 lines
[07:16] <flaccid> should ony need be one of thos elines
[07:16] <orange__> netbios-ssn     stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/smbd
[07:16] <flaccid> thats fine
[07:16] <flaccid> do my command and advise
[07:16] <orange__> kk
[07:18] <orange__> ok did the cmds
[07:18] <orange__> no process to kill for the first 2
[07:18] <orange__> and when restarting inetd
[07:18] <orange__> lynx no good
[07:19] <orange__> so process isnt running
[07:19] <flaccid> wtf does does lynx no good mean?
[07:19] <|Jason8|> I am so confused... under the Ubuntu LiveCD, only 100 MB of memory is used, with kubuntu LiveCD, over 360 MB is used.  Does KDE just take up that much more memory?
[07:19] <orange__> Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host.
[07:20] <flaccid> orange_ i don't know what your problem is then
[07:20] <orange__> lynx: Can't access startfile http://localhost:901/
[07:20] <flaccid> did you try another browser?
[07:20] <orange__> even after restarting inetd - i try killall swap
[07:20] <flaccid> try one now..
[07:20] <orange__> says no process found
[07:20] <orange__> swat*
[07:20] <flaccid> orange_thats becuase it runs under inetd
[07:20] <flaccid> so it won't return anything if its run under a parent process like inetd
[07:21] <flaccid> inet is the internet super server
[07:22] <orange__> how can i check if inetd is running
[07:25] <aj_> can linux be smart enough to know daylight savings?
[07:26] <robotgeek> aj_: it does
[07:26] <aj_> so does it know the new time?
[07:26] <aj_> like tonight its supposed to do it...2 weeks earlier than normal
[07:26] <robotgeek> aj_: http://robitaille.wordpress.com/2007/03/09/is-your-linuxunix-system-ready-for-daylight-savings-time/
[07:27] <flaccid> orange__:  ps aux | grep inetd
[07:28] <orange__> flaccid: omg clap the hands
[07:28] <aj_> oh cool
[07:28] <aj_> that was a cool link thanks
[07:28] <orange__> flaccid: netstat -lt shows tcp        0      0 *:swat                  *:*                     LISTEN
[07:28] <orange__> improvement
[07:29] <flaccid> orange__: you should be ok now in theory
[07:29] <orange__> YES!
[07:29] <flaccid> it works?
[07:30] <orange__> flaccid: yep
[07:30] <flaccid> cool
[07:30] <orange__> asks for login and accepts them and its not in demo mode
[07:30] <orange__> like most ppl complain in forums
[07:30] <flaccid> now you have to verify that inetd starts it correcty on boot
[07:30] <orange__> look what i did
[07:30] <orange__> i used adept to remove xinetd / netkit-inetd
[07:30] <orange__> and install inetd
[07:31] <flaccid> that didn't necessarily fix it...
[07:31] <orange__> it did
[07:31] <Pollyo> Does resizing a Windows XP partition work or is it something experimental?
[07:31] <orange__> then
[07:31] <flaccid> prove it...
[07:31] <orange__> i installed netkit-inetd and removed inetd
[07:31] <teufel> yo when i try to install vlc or mplayer it says "break install" the errors
[07:31] <orange__> then i tried netstat -lt and a miracled happened
[07:31] <flaccid> netkit-inetd is what you need
[07:31] <flaccid> that doesn't prove anything orange__...
[07:32] <orange__> it proves that xinetd messed up inetd
[07:32] <flaccid> how so
[07:32] <orange__> not allowing netkit to fix inetd
[07:32] <flaccid> it proves nothing...
[07:32] <flaccid> nope
[07:32] <flaccid> its a package, not a binary :)
[07:32] <flaccid> who cares how it was fixed. at the end of the day, ubuntu didnt package it correctly...
[07:32] <Krishean> is it possible to move an installation of kubuntu from one computer to another (different hardware)?
[07:32] <|Jason8|> Okay
[07:33] <flaccid> Krishean: yes
[07:33] <Krishean> how would i go about doing that?
[07:33] <flaccid> !backup
[07:33] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[07:33] <flaccid> !cloning
[07:33] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[07:33] <teufel> using adept to install it says break install
[07:33] <flaccid> that should help.. depends on if you want an image or not
[07:34] <Krishean> i don't care what it does as long as i have all the same stuff
[07:34] <flaccid> ok
[07:34] <warewolf_> OK, it just locked on my again, but I was able to get into a terminal to recover without restarting...
[07:34] <|Jason8|> Xorg is using 290 megs of RAM with the liveCD.
[07:34] <Krishean> thank you, i'll try this out later
[07:34] <|Jason8|> ...is that normal?
[07:35] <Pollyo> Has anyone had success in resizing a NTFS partition?
[07:36] <orange__> flaccid: TY for the help... i feel like posting something about removing all super servers then installing netkit to fix it - but u telling me that idea is wrong -- anyway - thanks alot for sticking thru it
[07:36] <flaccid> orange__: npz
[07:36] <flaccid> orange__: yeah you should never have to uninstall inetd or xinetd, the package maintainer is the problem here
[07:37] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, how do I configure xserver?
[07:37] <|Jason8|> it's using 290 megs of RAM right now, and I can't install kubuntu with it using that much
[07:37] <warewolf_> Should there be like 6 copies of getty running?
[07:37] <robotgeek> |Jason8|: how much ram do you have?
[07:37] <orange__> warewolf_: i have 6
[07:37] <chavo> warewolf_, yes
[07:38] <|Jason8|> robotgeek, 384 megs
[07:38] <flaccid> |Jason8|: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:38] <|Jason8|> flaccid, thx
[07:38] <robotgeek> |Jason8|: maybe use a lower resolution, i am not sure. i dont know if kde is going to be usable too
[07:38] <chavo> |Jason8|, where areyou getting that info from?
[07:38] <chavo> I use KDE on a lptop with 384, it's fine
[07:39] <flaccid> kde copes ok on 64mb ram
[07:39] <|Jason8|> chavo, from the process monitor
[07:39] <chavo> I just ordered a 1G stick for it tho
[07:39] <robotgeek> |Jason8|: ignore me :)
[07:39] <|Jason8|> :p
[07:39] <chavo> |Jason8|, most of that is in the cache more than likely
[07:39] <Pollyo> Any idea how much space the base kubuntu installation takes?
[07:40] <chavo> Pollyo, ~1.8 gigs for edgy
[07:42] <Pollyo> Anyone know of a Remote desktop that will also connect to Windows XP systems?
[07:42] <LL_Hakaisou> !flash64
[07:42] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:43] <flaccid> Pollyo: rdp
[07:43] <flaccid> as for server the only common one is VNC
[07:44] <Pollyo> flaccid, this rdp will allow me to connect to a windows system withouth installing additional software on the xp machine?
[07:44] <flaccid> correct Pollyo
[07:44] <flaccid> !krdc
[07:44] <Pollyo> flaccid, thank you.
[07:44] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 499 kB, installed size 968 kB
[07:45] <flaccid> np
[07:46] <Pollyo> I see virus scanners for Linux in the package lists.  I'm just getting involved in GNU/Linux do viruses work just like they do on windows on linux?
[07:46] <flaccid> i actually really like krdc for its rfb reduction
[07:46] <flaccid> Pollyo: nope
[07:46] <teufel> damn
[07:46] <flaccid> windows viruses don't run on linux
[07:46] <teufel> all i want to do is watch a movie
[07:47] <flaccid> !movie
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about movie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <flaccid> !movies
[07:47] <teufel> yeah read all that
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about movies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <flaccid> hehe nothing there..
[07:47] <teufel> repository this that all it says is break install
[07:47] <flaccid> you have a codec problem teufel?
[07:47] <teufel> yeah
[07:47] <Pollyo> flaccid, If I were to install wine would I have to worry about viruses?
[07:47] <teufel> im new to linux
[07:47] <flaccid> what package you can't install, teufel?
[07:47] <Pollyo> flaccid, any idea?
[07:47] <teufel> vlc
[07:47] <teufel> mplayer
[07:47] <teufel> extracodecs
[07:48] <teufel> says they are there
[07:48] <flaccid> Pollyo: in theory no. in practice its a very small possibility.
[07:48] <teufel> but says break install
[07:48] <teufel> using adept
[07:48] <flaccid> what says break install?
[07:48] <flaccid> ok
[07:48] <flaccid> teufel: try using konsole and apt-get, you done that before?
[07:48] <teufel> earlier
[07:48] <flaccid> teufel: do an apt-get update
[07:49] <teufel> ok hold up
[07:49] <flaccid> what package(s) you need o install, teufel?
[07:49] <june> does anyone know if in xorg.conf an agp card must reflect that in the "BusID" option?
[07:49] <flaccid> june: well yes the bus ids need to match
[07:49] <flaccid> iirc, june
[07:49] <teufel> ok done
[07:50] <teufel> vlc
[07:50] <flaccid> teufel: now what packages do you want to install?
[07:50] <teufel> mplayer
[07:50] <teufel> and codecs
[07:50] <teufel> extracodecs for avi files
[07:50] <flaccid> let me just prepare a command for you teufel
[07:50] <teufel> hells yeah i hope it works
[07:50] <teufel> my head hurts
[07:51] <teufel> too much new stuff
[07:51] <flaccid> you don't mind a few extra things?
[07:51] <teufel> na
[07:51] <flaccid> coz its good to get a few xine things in there
[07:51] <teufel> i just want this to be a mulitmeadia desktop atlease
[07:51] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install vlc mplayer libxine-extracodecs gxine totem-xine xine-ui
[07:51] <teufel> yeah xine is another i was wanting
[07:51] <flaccid> try that teufel?
[07:52] <teufel> Reading package lists... Done
[07:52] <teufel> Building dependency tree
[07:52] <teufel> Reading state information... Done
[07:52] <teufel> Package gxine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:52] <teufel> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:52] <teufel> is only available from another source
[07:52] <teufel> E: Package gxine has no installation candidate
[07:52] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install vlc mplayer libxine-extracodecs gxine totem-xine xine-ui libdvdcss2
[07:53] <flaccid> thats better
[07:53] <flaccid> !pastebin > teufel
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste | teufel
[07:53] <ubotu> teufel: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:53] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install vlc mplayer libxine-extracodecs xine-ui libdvdcss2
[07:53] <flaccid> oops
[07:53] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install vlc mplayer libxine-extracodecs xine xine-ui libdvdcss2
[07:53] <flaccid> sorry teufel
[07:53] <flaccid> im drunk
[07:53] <flaccid> do the last command i pasted
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> hahae
[07:53] <teufel> so even thou it said package has no installin candidate its going to work
[07:53] <flaccid> bloody red wine
[07:54] <Pollyo> Will I be able to browse the web using Linux as easily as I can on windows? (Is there a better room for such questions?)
[07:54] <Skuller> flaccid: wont hehave to enable some repos?
[07:54] <flaccid> teufel: nope. do my last command and ignore th rest
[07:54] <flaccid> Pollyo: you can browse faster and better :)
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Pollyo: much safer too
[07:54] <Skuller> Pollyo: and safer
[07:54] <flaccid> Skuller: we see now with my non-drunk command if extra repos requried
[07:54] <Pollyo> Flaccid, how about plugins for the browsers?
[07:55] <Skuller> flaccid: hehe...ok :)
[07:55] <flaccid> Pollyo: only limitation is latest flash for browser helpers/plugins
[07:55] <teufel> sorry man i dont think that worked
[07:55] <flaccid> teufel: error?
[07:55] <teufel> yeah
[07:55] <teufel> same as earlier
[07:56] <flaccid> can't be...
[07:56] <flaccid> whats the last line of the rror
[07:56] <teufel> Package xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:56] <flaccid> !xine
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <flaccid> wtf
[07:56] <flaccid> one sec
[07:56] <Skuller> gxine?
[07:56] <teufel> E: Package xine has no installation candidate
[07:56] <Skuller> !gxine
[07:56] <ubotu> gxine: the xine video player, GTK+/Gnome user interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 271 kB, installed size 1216 kB
[07:56] <Skuller> !kzine?
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kzine? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <teufel> sorry im tired as well
[07:57] <Skuller> !kxine
[07:57] <flaccid> teufel: one sec. i am druknk
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <teufel> its cool im getting there
[07:57] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install vlc mplayer libxine-extracodecs xine-ui libdvdcss2
[07:57] <flaccid> you don't need the xine
[07:57] <flaccid> sorry
[07:57] <flaccid> wrong OS..
[07:57] <Skuller> yea...not for gnome i guess
[07:58] <flaccid> and the red wine...
[07:58] <Skuller> i meant KDE
[07:58] <Skuller> lol
[07:58] <flaccid> hehe
[07:58] <flaccid> you drunk too? lol
[07:58] <teufel> E: Broken packages
[07:58] <teufel> what does that mean
[07:58] <Skuller> get away from me..i knew red wine had contagious effects
[07:58] <flaccid> what else does it say
[07:58] <teufel> im drinking southern comfort
[07:58] <flaccid> Skuller: lol
[07:58] <flaccid> nice
[07:59] <teufel> im unregistered how do i post without flooding
[07:59] <flaccid> teufel: just pm me
[07:59] <teufel> i cant
[07:59] <teufel> pm me
[07:59] <flaccid> its my fault coz i'm drunk anyway..
[07:59] <flaccid> um
[08:00] <flaccid> use http://pastebin.ca
[08:01] <teufel> says that those players have dependencies
[08:02] <flaccid> pastebin the whole thing then link me
[08:02] <teufel> ok hold up
[08:03] <teufel> http://pastebin.ca/390205
[08:04] <flaccid> teufel: you need to enable repos
[08:04] <flaccid> !source-o-matic
[08:04] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:04] <flaccid> thats a quick solution to enable all...
[08:05] <teufel> ok i thought i did
[08:05] <Skuller> aha...i thought so...lol
[08:05] <flaccid> !libaa1
[08:05] <ubotu> libaa1: ascii art library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4p5-30 (edgy), package size 54 kB, installed size 164 kB
[08:05] <flaccid> hmmm thats weird but ^^
[08:05] <flaccid> !vlc-nox
[08:05] <ubotu> vlc-nox: multimedia player and streamer (without X support). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 4038 kB, installed size 11060 kB
[08:05] <flaccid> teufel: is universe enabled? taht might be the only one needed
[08:05] <Skuller> *hiccup* (flaccid's red wine's contagious drunk effect's effect)
[08:06] <flaccid> Skuller: its bettter to enable only the repose required
[08:06] <flaccid> !mplayer
[08:06] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[08:06] <teufel> check all of those check boxex
[08:06] <teufel> boxes
[08:06] <flaccid> teufel: you probably need at least main, universe, and multiverse
[08:06] <Skuller> flaccid: hmm...thas true...i was a nutcase to go about enabling all the repos in the  source-o-matic...lol...
[08:07] <flaccid> Skuller: thats what i do anyway :)
[08:07] <Skuller> lol...something tells me all this has something to do with red wine
[08:08] <teufel> says create source.list opens kate .......... now what
[08:08] <Orange1> whats the voice chat program for linux
[08:08] <Orange1> like ventrilo / teamspeak
[08:08] <Skuller> !akiga > Orange1
[08:08] <flaccid> teufel: replace /etc/apt/sources.list with what was put in kate
[08:08] <Skuller> !ekiga > Orange1
[08:08] <flaccid> well technically my method is better practice than
[08:08] <flaccid> red wine/all
[08:08] <chavo> Orange1, teamspeak has a linux client
[08:10] <Skuller> now i know what inspired them to name that compatibility layer WINE
[08:10] <warewolf_> can someone help me figure out my windows partitions?
[08:11] <Skuller> warewolf_: they are the 'ntfs' type
[08:11] <flaccid> Skuller: no they are not
[08:11] <Skuller> warewolf_: ignore that
[08:11] <flaccid> they could be fat or fat32
[08:11] <Skuller> flaccid: sorry
[08:11] <warewolf_> Skuller: well, more specifically, why can I only have permission to see one of them?
[08:12] <flaccid> warewolf_: pastebin output of sudo fdisk -l in konsole
[08:12] <Pollyo> I haven't had any luck in changing the size of ntfs.
[08:12] <flaccid> !ntfs
[08:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:12] <flaccid> ^^^^ thats a good guide on mounting
[08:12] <Skuller> yea
[08:12] <Skuller> i had da same problem when i installed kubuntu...
[08:12] <warewolf_> flaccid: They are both already mounted, and I can read C:, but I am told I don't have permission for D
[08:13] <Skuller> is D on a separate HDD?
[08:13] <scotty> Question: How can I make my Kubuntu clock automatically update for DST?
[08:13] <warewolf_> Skuller: No
[08:13] <warewolf_> Skuller: Only 1 HD.. this is a notebook
[08:13] <Skuller> warewolf_: first apt-get install ntp....then in the system settings--> date n time-->administrator mode-->check the 'set time...' box-->server was already selected as 'pool....'-->then in terminal 'sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org'
[08:13] <Pollyo> My clock just updated looks like they have the new daylight savings working...
[08:14] <Skuller> warewolf_: sorry
[08:14] <warewolf_> Skuller: I wasn't the one needing that info =P
[08:14] <Skuller> scotty:  first apt-get install ntp....then in the system settings--> date n time-->administrator mode-->check the 'set time...' box-->server was already selected as 'pool....'-->then in terminal 'sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org'
[08:14] <flaccid> warewolf_: read the umask sections of the url i invoked
[08:14] <Skuller> warewolf_: no idea about your problem...you can try using the method in !ntfs
[08:14] <teufel> hey how do copy something to the root dir with konquerer
[08:15] <flaccid> teufel: runk konqueror under kdesu
[08:15] <Pollyo> When I locate my Dell restore DVD's I'm going to wipe the drive and setup both windows and kubuntu.
[08:15] <teufel> i know how but how to with root access
[08:15] <Skuller> flaccid: why not under sudo?
[08:15] <teufel> i just started using kubuntu
[08:15] <flaccid> Skuller: sudo is for cli
[08:16] <Skuller> flaccid: what are the screw ups if u mix the two?
[08:16] <teufel> and my head is hurting from thinking
[08:16] <flaccid> Skuller: can't rememer off the top of my head. i never did the wrong thing and used sudo...
[08:16] <Skuller> flaccid: hehe...ok i'l keep that in mind..thanx fer da info
[08:16] <flaccid> well i do then had ownership issues, so stoppped...
[08:17] <flaccid> Skuller: kdesu was made for a reason.... if it didn't need to made it wouldnt of been made
[08:17] <warewolf_> Skuller: How do I account for a space in the name of the share? (using console)
[08:17] <flaccid> warewolf_: encapsulate the param in inverted commas
[08:17] <Skuller> warewolf_: you are now asking me questions and using terms out of my linux knowledge...please refer to someone else...sorry
[08:17] <Thedeathmonkey> Wow... compared to linux, Kubuntu was like installing a cloud into my computer instead of a jagged metal monstrosity.
[08:18] <Thedeathmonkey> I mean gentoo
[08:18] <Thedeathmonkey> Man, I'm high.
[08:18] <warewolf_> flaccid: Thanks
[08:18] <flaccid> hahahahahahhaha
[08:18] <Skuller> lol
[08:18] <teufel> damn i cant find it
[08:18] <Skuller> i KNEW it...the red wine conspiracy is around here
[08:19] <Thedeathmonkey> Also, compared to how fast applications install/launch, its freakin' awesome.
[08:20] <flaccid> gentoo will be faster if you install it correctly
[08:20] <flaccid> :)
[08:20] <Pollyo> What is gentoo?
[08:20] <Skuller> i heard gentoo can be installed on xbox
[08:20] <Thedeathmonkey> Well, I used it for 3 years, I was pretty good with it
[08:20] <Skuller> !gentoo
[08:20] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[08:21] <Thedeathmonkey> Gentoo is like Linux from Scratch, only it has a portage system similar to whatever Ubuntu uses
[08:21] <Thedeathmonkey> I'm new, still learning terminalogy
[08:21] <warewolf_> flaccid: rm -d doesn't remove directory?
[08:21] <flaccid> warewolf_: rmdir
[08:21] <flaccid> gentoo is good, but i'm a bsd user so i never use it
[08:22] <Skuller> make dir?
[08:22] <flaccid> mkdir
[08:22] <Thedeathmonkey> Kubuntu is like my dream OS... holy crap.
[08:22] <teufel> im looking right at the file in konqueror but i dont know how to access the root where do i put in the password
[08:22] <me2win> !dst
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <Skuller> cool...i remember using DOS bak in the 90's wen i was 8 and making dir's with 'md' trying to get games which i dont have to run
[08:23] <scotty> Skuller: I get an error when I try to Set date and time automatically.
[08:23] <Skuller> scotty: what error?
[08:23] <scotty> It says Unable to connect to time server
[08:23] <scotty> pool.ntp.org
[08:24] <Skuller> did u apt-get install ntp?
[08:24] <scotty> yeah
[08:24] <Skuller> no idea then bro...it worked for me first time without hassles....
[08:25] <Skuller> altho i also did sudo apt-get install ntp-doc....if that has any significance, i m not sure
[08:25] <flaccid> Skuller: it has no significance
[08:25] <Skuller> !ntp | scotty
[08:25] <ubotu> scotty: ntp: Network Time Protocol: network utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-9ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 256 kB, installed size 464 kB
[08:25] <Skuller> flaccid: :( i thot so...dumb me
[08:26] <flaccid> time to get a life
[08:26] <Skuller> flaccid: hey..lol..you were the one who helped me in getting the ntp to work....
[08:28] <Skuller> scotty: ask flaccid...he helped me to get mine working
[08:28] <scotty> he left
[08:28] <Skuller> sorry i dint notice that
[08:29] <Skuller> scotty: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-928.html
[08:29] <Skuller> scotty: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/synchronize-the-system-clock-to-network-time-protocol-ntp-under-fedora-or-red-hat-linux.html
[08:30] <scotty> thanks, Skuller
[08:30] <scotty> I'll take a look
[08:30] <Skuller> scotty: np man...hope it helps...coz i cant anymore in this matter
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> [/clear
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> dammit.
[08:35] <teufel> how do i use the sudo command in konqueror
[08:35] <teufel> how do i use the sudo command in konqueror
[08:35] <teufel> i need root access to move a file there
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> teufel: kdesu konqueror
[08:45] <|Jason8|> "There are differences between boot sector and its backup.  Not automatically fixing this."  Halt.  What would cause this?
[08:47] <vegas> what do you guys recommend for a linux hard disk diagnostic tool?
[08:49] <firecrotch> Hello all!
[08:49] <vegas> hi firecrotch
[08:50] <firecrotch> Is it just me, or do the symbols on this page: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/p-convention.html    not show up right?
[08:50] <firecrotch> Using Firefox 2
[08:50] <vegas> yea they're messed up
[08:51] <firecrotch> Anyone know of any way to make this not happen?
[08:51] <vegas> tell the person that made the page to encode it correctly
[08:52] <firecrotch> What's the standard for character encoding?
[08:53] <vegas> i just tried it on safari, FF1.5, FF2, IE6, IE7, Konqueror and they all made it display like that
[08:53] <vegas> is that your site?
[08:53] <firecrotch> Heh, definitely not my site
[08:54] <vegas> good
[08:54] <firecrotch> I don't use silly characters like those
[08:54] <vegas> i don't think they meant to
[08:54] <firecrotch> Actually they did
[08:55] <|Jason8|> what's the command to configure x-server agian?
[08:55] <|Jason8|> I lost it... again
[08:55] <firecrotch> vegas: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/online-preface.html   They even made a table saying what each one should be
[08:56] <me2win> is there a command to check memory types?
[08:56] <firecrotch> !xorg > firecrotch
[08:57] <firecrotch> !xconfig | |Jason8|
[08:57] <ubotu> |Jason8|: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[08:57] <|Jason8|> thanks
[08:58] <firecrotch> me2win: What do you mean by "memory types" ?
[08:58] <|Jason8|> !fixres
[08:58] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:58] <warewolf_> Ok, I think I got most of this figured out... one last question on the mounts... does Feisty already have RW support for NTFS or still needs that extra package?
[08:59] <me2win> firecrotch: like what time of ram this cpu uses, DDR 400 or 333 or whatever
[09:00] <firecrotch> me2win: Open up the computer and look.  It's by far the most accurate way to find out.
[09:01] <me2win> lol im too lazy
[09:04] <|Jason8|> How do I get back into the GUI from the commandline?
[09:05] <c0nv1ct> |Jason8|: how did you leave the GUI?
[09:05] <|Jason8|> alt+f1
[09:05] <c0nv1ct> |Jason8|: then hit ctrl-alt-f7
[09:06] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) value?
[09:06] <Hasrat_USA> linus torvald doesn't like GNOME :-D
[09:07] <c0nv1ct> why would he? :)
[09:07] <|Jason8|> hahahahaha.
[09:07] <|Jason8|> gnome is pretty... ugh
[09:07] <|Jason8|> reminds me of Windows 95
[09:07] <makuseru> the only gnome that looks nice is Ubuntu Studio
[09:08] <|Jason8|> I've run Ubuntu breezy for a while
[09:08] <|Jason8|> just switched over to kubuntu dapper
[09:08] <makuseru> why not Edgy?
[09:08] <|Jason8|> it seems a lot faster so far.
[09:08] <|Jason8|> Don't have the CD
[09:08] <|Jason8|> :p
[09:08] <makuseru> you dont need it
[09:08] <|Jason8|> dialup
[09:08] <makuseru> and its faster because its dapper and not breezy, not becuase its kubuntu not ubuntu
[09:08] <|Jason8|> but KDE in general, makuseru
[09:09] <makuseru> KDE is slower than Gnome
[09:09] <makuseru> because it has a lot more options, and alot more to load
[09:09] <c0nv1ct> i havent noticed a difference
[09:09] <makuseru> and anyway, the dialup thing, when you install you would still have nearly 100 updates
[09:09] <c0nv1ct> i just prefer KDE cuz i like QT apps, and only use maybe 1 or 2 gnome apps
[09:10] <c0nv1ct> and nautilus blows
[09:10] <MegaVolt> is there a way to burn a file bigger then 4 gb on dvd? k3b tells me the file cant be added (nero does the job)
[09:10] <makuseru> and you can always get free Ds shipped to your house
[09:10] <Hasrat_USA> i'm installing opera for linux now :)
[09:10] <|Jason8|> did the msn server change or something?  I haven't been able to connect to that for a while
[09:10] <|Jason8|> ooo, opera.
[09:10] <c0nv1ct> MegaVolt: you may need a dual layer disc then
[09:10] <makuseru> MegaVolt: you can only put 4.2 on a DVD unless its dual layer
[09:11] <MegaVolt> i can put 4.4 gb on a disc
[09:11] <MegaVolt> but not in a single file
[09:11] <c0nv1ct> yeah i thought it was around 4.5
[09:11] <MegaVolt> with k3b, nero can do it as single file
[09:11] <makuseru> all my DVDs say 4.2 on them
[09:11] <makuseru> but 4.4 sounds right
[09:11] <MegaVolt> i got a signle 4.3 gb file hero, it fits on the dvd but k3b refused to add it to the project
[09:11] <makuseru> because CDs say 700 but i can put mroe than 700 on one
[09:12] <c0nv1ct> 4.7 sounds right to me, but i dont recall
[09:12] <makuseru> no
[09:12] <MegaVolt> 4480 meg
[09:12] <makuseru> its not 4.7
[09:12] <MegaVolt> quite exact
[09:12] <makuseru> what kind of file
[09:12] <MegaVolt> its a video
[09:12] <c0nv1ct> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD
[09:12] <c0nv1ct> its 4.7
[09:12] <makuseru> it is not 4.7
[09:12] <makuseru> no matter what you say
[09:12] <c0nv1ct> makes sense, since 8.5 is dual layer
[09:12] <MegaVolt> dvd-r and dvd+r have different sizes
[09:12] <MegaVolt> and those differ from the pressed ones
[09:13] <MegaVolt> but that really doesnt matter ;) the problem is that k3b wont burn a single file larger then 4 gb and nero (windows) can
[09:13] <makuseru> megavolt: are you taking into account that it has to have other things on there to make the video play in dvd players, so its not just all that one file, it has to have the tings it needs on there
[09:13] <MegaVolt> it wont evel let ma add the 4.3 gb file to the burn project
[09:13] <MegaVolt> makuseru i dont want to play it on a dvd player
[09:14] <makuseru> so your just doing data dvd then?
[09:14] <MegaVolt> yea
[09:14] <MegaVolt> a data dvd with a single 4.3 gb file
[09:14] <makuseru> compress it
[09:14] <MegaVolt> no
[09:14] <firecrotch> MegaVolt, I think your issue may have something to do with base 10 vs base 2 representation of size
[09:14] <MegaVolt> i dont want to
[09:14] <makuseru> why
[09:14] <MegaVolt> firecrotch: why is that?
[09:15] <MegaVolt> btw using iso / udf file system doesnt matter, k3b wont even let me add the file to the project so i dont even get to the dialog to chose that stuff
[09:16] <MegaVolt> nero the other hand lets me add the file and i can burn it, but udf only because iso cant handle large files (which i really dont care about ;) )
[09:16] <makuseru> you could always use Wine and install Nero
[09:16] <MegaVolt> so is it a bug / feature / missing feature in k3b? or is there a way to burn big files?
[09:17] <makuseru> you can always just compress it
[09:17] <firecrotch> Most of the time, when something is reported as 4.3 GB, they mean 4,300,000,000 bytes
[09:17] <Hasrat_USA> opera is faster than firefox no doubt
[09:17] <firecrotch> In some cases, they mean 4,617,089,840 bytes
[09:18] <MegaVolt> firecrotch: the file is "small" enough to fit on the dvd so that shouldnt matter
[09:18] <c0nv1ct> officially they are supposed to say GB or GiB to determine that
[09:18] <firecrotch> c0nv1ct: But in reality, no one does
[09:18] <MegaVolt> and even if it wasnt k3b should at least let me add it to the project and then tell me that the project is too big to fit the dvd
[09:18] <c0nv1ct> firecrotch: exactly
[09:19] <firecrotch> That's why when you buy a 500GB hard drive, it shows up as having only around 480GB of space
[09:20] <makuseru> right click on it and kubuntu should tell you in bytes how biig ti is
[09:20] <makuseru> big it is*
[09:20] <c0nv1ct> firecrotch: because they use decimal instead of binary to decide the total on the package, where your computer uses binary math
[09:21] <MegaVolt> i really dont see what that has to do with the k3b problem :(/
[09:21] <c0nv1ct> MegaVolt: its probably exactly what we are talking about, its actually bigger than 4.3gb
[09:22] <c0nv1ct> MegaVolt: is this a downloaded ISO, or something you made yourself?
 firecrotch: the file is "small" enough to fit on the dvd so that shouldnt matter
[09:22] <firecrotch> c0nv1ct: Exactly.  Everyone needs to get on the same page.  1GB = 1024MB.  Perioud
 and even if it wasnt k3b should at least let me add it to the project and then tell me that the project is too big to fit the dvd
[09:22] <MegaVolt> no my problem has nothing to do with that
[09:22] <firecrotch> Could be a bug in k3b then
[09:23] <c0nv1ct> firecrotch: yeah, using 'gibibytes and gigabytes' will just confuse people
[09:23] <MegaVolt> lets say i got a 10 gb file
[09:23] <MegaVolt> k3b _should_ at least let me add it to a project and then complain that the dvd is too small
[09:23] <c0nv1ct> MegaVolt: GiB or GB? :P
[09:24] <MegaVolt> lets make it a<PHONE_NUMBER>6 byte file
[09:24] <firecrotch> MegaVolt: Why should it even let you add it if it's just going to give you an error?
[09:24] <MegaVolt> because i could have a 20 gb blue ray disc or something
[09:24] <c0nv1ct> or it may be expecting a mult-disc session
[09:24] <MegaVolt> who is that k3b guy to decide what _I_ want to burn
[09:25] <MegaVolt> right
[09:25] <Hasrat_USA> duh i need to install Java for Opera and configure it to play wmv mpg etc etc files
[09:25] <MegaVolt> so you dont know a way to burn single files >4gb in k3b except splitting em ?
[09:26] <MegaVolt> java for wmv mpg etc ?!
[09:26] <Hasrat_USA> no
[09:26] <Hasrat_USA> i already have JRE 5 installed
[09:26] <Hasrat_USA> mozilla can detect it
[09:27] <Hasrat_USA> but opera aint
[09:27] <Hasrat_USA> opera aint opening any java applet
[09:27] <c0nv1ct> you probably need the opera-specific plug-in
[09:27] <Hasrat_USA> although it's opening flash movies faster than firefox
[09:27] <Hasrat_USA> yeah you're right c0nv1ct
[09:27] <Hasrat_USA> let's tinker
[09:32] <firecrotch> Stupid daylight savings time is throwing me off
[09:32] <c0nv1ct> did it switch yet?
[09:33] <firecrotch> My computer did
[09:34] <c0nv1ct> i didnt notice i lost an hour
[09:34] <thumper> Is there an upgrade-manager equivalent for kubuntu to go to feisty?
[09:35] <thumper> if so, is it in the repository somewhere?
[09:35] <c0nv1ct> thumper: i believe so, i saw someone asking how to run it after saying it was installed
[09:35] <thumper> c0nv1ct: any idea what it's called?
[09:35] <c0nv1ct> kubuntu upgrade manager or something, i'm not positive
[09:35] <thumper> aparently I have to move to feisty now
[09:36] <thumper> :-)
[09:36] <c0nv1ct> why is that o.O
[09:36] <firecrotch> thumper:  Why?
[09:36] <thumper> sabdfl says so
[09:36] <thumper> :)
[09:36] <firecrotch> thumper: who or what is that?
[09:36] <thumper> I'm a launchpad developer
[09:37] <thumper> firecrotch: our self appointed benevolent dictator for life
[09:37] <firecrotch> Can't you just change edgy to fiesty in sources.list?
[09:37] <thumper> that is one way
[09:37] <thumper> but when asking around I was told there was this new tool
[09:37] <thumper> and it would be good to help test it
[09:37] <JackPhil> howto prevent auto close monitor when watching movie?
[09:37] <JackPhil> kaffeine
[09:37] <thumper> so
[09:37] <thumper> I thought I'd ask before just editing sources.list
[09:38] <crimsun> adept
[09:38] <thumper> crimsun: was that for me?
[09:38] <crimsun> yes.
[09:38] <thumper> Riddell: did you write the new tool?
[09:38] <thumper> crimsun: that isn't the tool that was mentioned
[09:39] <crimsun> hmm
[09:39] <thumper> Riddell: to upgrade to feisty
[09:39] <firecrotch> I'm trying to decide if I should upgrade to feisty
[09:40] <thumper> the gnomers have update-manager
[09:40] <thumper> and I recall there being a new one for kubuntu
[09:40] <thumper> firecrotch: do you really need stability
[09:40] <thumper> if not, then go for it
[09:40] <thumper> if you do, then perhaps wait
[09:40] <abattoir> thumper: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[09:41] <firecrotch> thumper: I'd _prefer_ stability, but I'd also prefer having the latest stuff
[09:41] <thumper> abattoir: thanks,exactly what I was looking for
[09:41] <thumper> Riddell: unping
[09:42] <abattoir> thumper: :)
[09:42] <JackPhil> laptop, 10 minutes before the screen went to black without any mouse and key action.
[09:42] <c0nv1ct> firecrotch: i'm the same way, i have feisty running on my laptop
[09:42] <c0nv1ct> firecrotch: but feisty totally went nuts when i installed it on this PC
[09:43] <JackPhil> but it is annoyed if i am watching movie.
[09:43] <c0nv1ct> JackPhil: just disable your screensaver and power management
[09:43] <firecrotch> Well, considering that I don't have any weird hardware, I think I may be just fine.  Everything worked out of the box when I installed Edgy
[09:43] <firecrotch> Even wireless
[09:44] <c0nv1ct> firecrotch: hardware-wise, feisty was fine, it was when i ran adept to update after the fresh install is when it got messy
[09:45] <c1|freaky> hi all. what can i do when theres no sound output im using feisty?
[09:46] <c0nv1ct> !sound
[09:46] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:47] <Pollyo> Here I go.... Attempting to resize my XP partition now that I have ntfsresize running does anyone know of major problems with it?
[09:47] <c1|freaky> ARTS is running. it doesnt say anything like "no output device" amarok f.e. plays songs, the analyzer shows output (frequencies) and the song is playing but i have no sound output.
[09:47] <c0nv1ct> Pollyo: i'd resize it while in XP, to be safe
[09:47] <genii> Are there any good tools to recover/repair corrupted vob files?
[09:48] <Pollyo> Onv1ct How do you do that?
[09:48] <Pollyo> It just failed the resize because of "Extended record needed"
[09:48] <c0nv1ct> Pollyo: manipulating ntfs partitions in linux, even just writing files to it, has risks
[09:48] <firecrotch> c1|freaky: This may sound stupid... but are you speakers plugged in/turned on/not muted?
[09:49] <c0nv1ct> Pollyo: right click on My Computer, and select Manage
[09:49] <c0nv1ct> firecrotch: lol, i was just gonna ask that
[09:49] <firecrotch> c0nv1ct: Great minds think alike :)
[09:49] <c0nv1ct> firecrotch: its troubleshooting 101, start with the simple stuff that is often overlooked :P
[09:50] <Pollyo> Onv1ct: Under manage it has the ability to resize a partion?
[09:50] <c0nv1ct> Pollyo: i beleive so, let me fire up vmware and check
[09:50] <c0nv1ct> Pollyo: i know vista does, cuz i just did it last week
[09:50] <c1|freaky> firecrotch: nm its working now i dont even know why ;D
[09:50] <firecrotch> c0nv1ct: Yeah, I did quite a bit of tech support in my dorm... you would not believe how many times I just had to plug in someone's printer when it didn't work for them
[09:50] <c1|freaky> but the hardware volume wheel isnt working :(
[09:51] <c1|freaky> but the keykombinition is ... so np ;D
[09:51] <c1|freaky> i love kubuntu :D
[09:52] <c1|freaky> how to say "kubuntu"? is it "K" "ubuntu" or like "qbuntu" ?
[09:52] <Pollyo> Can you download a DVD install for kubuntu or do you have to purchase the DVD version?
[09:52] <c1|freaky> no theres nothing u need to purchase
[09:52] <Pollyo> I have the CD install.
[09:52] <firecrotch> c1|freaky: I pronounce it as "Kooboontoo"
[09:52] <c1|freaky> you can download the DVD ...
[09:52] <Pollyo> I wanted to find a DVD install.
[09:52] <c1|freaky> Pollyo: wait let me look
[09:53] <c1|freaky> Pollyo: where r u from?
[09:53] <c1|freaky> do u have any torrent client?
[09:53] <Pollyo> c1freaky: Phila., PA; USA
[09:54] <c1|freaky> http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/kubuntu/edgy/release/ look there ;)
[09:54] <Pollyo> c1freaky: Yes, on my Windows machine
[09:54] <Pollyo> c1freaky: Thank you.
[09:54] <c1|freaky> but its the edgy release ... feisty doesn't have a dvd image yet just cd test images
[09:54] <c1|freaky> but edgy is the current stable
[09:54] <Orange1> is there a program to rename my music collection properly
[09:55] <Orange1> by using an online database
[09:55] <c1|freaky> does someone know of any software for my ipod where i can put music and stuff on it?
[09:55] <Pollyo> c1frealy: When the newest kubuntu is out will I be able to update the edgy install?
[09:55] <Orange1> c1|freaky: yes
[09:56] <c1|freaky> Pollyo: yes.
[09:56] <c1|freaky> Orange1: whats its name?
[09:56] <Orange1> c1|freaky: I know of a program for ipods
[09:56] <Pollyo> c1freaky: Great.  I'll download and install the edgy DVD.  I have the feisty? CD installed on this machine.
[09:56] <Orange1> c1|freaky: gtkpod
[09:56] <Pollyo> c1freaky: I'll put the edgy on my windows machine.
[09:56] <warewolf_> Wow... Amarok is nice :)
[09:57] <Orange1> c1|freaky: theres also banshee / rhythmbox music player
[09:57] <Orange1> gtkpod is the alternative to itunes
[09:57] <c1|freaky> Pollyo: it isnt even hard to do that. i think ive read that adept can do that and even notifies u of a new release. but even if it doesnt you just need to know when the new release is out and ask here almost everyone knows how to do that. u can even install edgy and after the install upgrade to feisty at its current development state ;)
[09:57] <Orange1> geek6oy: oyabin?
[09:58] <c1|freaky> Orange1: thanks :)
[09:58] <c0nv1ct> Pollyo: sorry, i guess XP doesnt have a resize option
[09:58] <Pollyo> conv1ct: np.  I'm backing up my files onto DVD from my windows system.
[09:58] <Orange1> c1|freaky: http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntu6.10
[09:59] <c1|freaky> u need to defragment your hdd under windows then u can use ntfsresize on a kubuntu live cd i guess
[09:59] <Pollyo> c0nv1ct: I may just trash the entire system (or most of it)...
[09:59] <Orange1> where is c0nv1ct
[10:00] <Pollyo> c1freaky: I was reading you do not even have to bother with a defrag. (at least it stated you didnt have to)
[10:00] <Orange1> nvm
[10:01] <c0nv1ct> que?
[10:01] <Orange1> when I try to open an mp3 from my xp box (networked with samba) it opens with amarok and thunderbird...
[10:01] <Orange1> amarok closes right away and thunderbird wants to compose an email
[10:02] <c0nv1ct> Orange1: lol nice
[10:02] <c0nv1ct> Orange1: that i have not seen before
[10:02] <Orange1> k-menu -> multimedia -> amarok   // doing this opens amarok and thunderbird
[10:02] <TheGateKeeper> !libxine-extracodecs
[10:03] <Orange1> and they crash right after
[10:03] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[10:03] <c0nv1ct> Orange1: can you edit the menu to verify the command for the link is correct?
[10:03] <Orange1> i did that already
[10:03] <TheGateKeeper> Orange1: install libxine-extracodecs & make sure amarok is using the xine engine
[10:04] <c0nv1ct> TheGateKeeper: that will solve thunderbird from opening?
[10:04] <c1|freaky> Pollyo: ok ;p
[10:04] <TheGateKeeper> c0nv1ct: not necessarily but amarok should play the mp3
[10:05] <c0nv1ct> TheGateKeeper: he says when he runs amarok, thunderbird opens too, and they both crash, i dont think it even gets a chance to load a mp3
[10:05] <embrik> how do I install w32codecs
[10:05] <Orange1> TheGateKeeper: where do you see an options/preferences on amarok - cant find it
[10:06] <c0nv1ct> Orange1: can you run 'amarokapp' manually in a console window?
[10:06] <Orange1> i used a different method to open amarok
[10:06] <TheGateKeeper> well I would open amarok, get it playing mp3's ok then remove the file association with thunderbird if it is still causing a problem
[10:06] <Orange1> but the link in startmenu or opening network'd files isnt working
[10:07] <c0nv1ct> Orange1: open the playlist window, its under Settings
[10:07] <TheGateKeeper> Orange1: settings --> configure amarok
[10:07] <embrik> anybody, what's the repository for installing w32codecs? kubuntu dapepr
[10:08] <c0nv1ct> embrik: have you enabled multiverse repos?
[10:08] <TheGateKeeper> embrik: 1 min I will give you a wget
[10:08] <Orange1> ah no wonder i couldnt find it - i keep forgetting about that mac bar in top
[10:09] <Orange1> hold on i brb 10ms - gotta feed the kids
[10:09] <embrik> c0nv1ct: multiverse is enabled
[10:09] <TheGateKeeper> embrik: look at the top of the page: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes
[10:10] <c0nv1ct> embrik: let TheGateKeeper get you the wget link, i forgot its not in the repos
[10:10] <TheGateKeeper> c0nv1ct: ^^^^ on my web page :-)
[10:11] <genii> Is there some smart demux/remux program which can salvage damaged vob files?
[10:11] <c0nv1ct> TheGateKeeper: whats in the w32codecs package? i installed it once before on a different OS install, but i forget why
[10:13] <TheGateKeeper> c0nv1ct: not sure exactly what they contain, but you would use them to play M$ sound files
[10:13] <apu> hi all
[10:13] <apu> how can i write down a cd iso to a rw dvd?
[10:13] <apu> with k3b.
[10:13] <embrik> TheGateKeeper: thanks :-)
[10:13] <c0nv1ct> TheGateKeeper: ah, wma and wmvs i'm sure
[10:13] <TheGateKeeper> c0nv1ct: yep correct :-)
[10:14] <TheGateKeeper> embrik: yw :-)
[10:15] <c0nv1ct> anyone know if theres any advantage or disadvantage to using different audio output plugins? specifically for amarok
[10:16] <c0nv1ct> reason is, i was getting some bad quality, snaps and crackles
[10:16] <TheGateKeeper> with xine engine?
[10:16] <True_Friend> Hi folks
[10:16] <True_Friend> i am facing a serious problem. last day reinstalled my windows xp on C/dev/hda1) it was FAT32 now changed to NTFS. But the problem is now other partition E/dev/hda it cannot be mounted automatically at startup. i tried to mount it through KDE System Settings but it gives error same error i got through "sudo mount -a" command this is the out put.
[10:16] <True_Friend> .........................
[10:16] <True_Friend> ss@ss-desktop:~$ sudo mount -a
[10:16] <True_Friend> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda8,
[10:16] <SunRise> is there any way to check my hard disk Errors which has NTFS file system?
[10:16] <True_Friend> missing codepage or other error
[10:16] <True_Friend> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[10:16] <c0nv1ct> xine engine, and using 'autodetect' for the output plugin
[10:16] <True_Friend> dmesg | tail or so
[10:16] <True_Friend> [10:16] <True_Friend> i can mount this partition manually with sudo mount /dev/hda8 /media/hda8 but then it is not accessable i can only access it through root account and there i also cannot write something.
[10:16] <True_Friend> i tried to change permission but could not.
[10:16] <True_Friend> any ideas????
[10:16] <True_Friend> Edgy is once again teasing me a lot last time i had to migrate back towards Dapper i do not want this now
[10:16] <c0nv1ct> wow, spam much?
[10:17] <c0nv1ct> !pastebin | True_Friend
[10:17] <ubotu> True_Friend: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:17] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: and i believe your problem is in your fstab
[10:18] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: if it was FAT32 before, and NTFS now, fstab has to be updated to reflect that
[10:18] <True_Friend> nops
[10:18] <True_Friend> hda1 is ntfs now
[10:18] <True_Friend> not hda8
[10:18] <True_Friend> hda8 is creating problem
[10:18] <True_Friend> now can i paste /etc/fstab here?
[10:18] <c0nv1ct> noooo
[10:18] <c0nv1ct> use pastebin!
[10:18] <SunRise> hey, can somebody answer my question?
[10:18] <True_Friend> i do not know how to use it
[10:19] <c0nv1ct> use pastebin, and include 'fdisk -l' output as well
[10:19] <c0nv1ct> !pastebin
[10:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:19] <c0nv1ct> go to the link, its self-explanitory
[10:19] <True_Friend> okiez
[10:19] <True_Friend> i paste it there and give link
[10:19] <c0nv1ct> yep
[10:19] <c0nv1ct> include 'fdisk -l' too please
[10:19] <True_Friend> okiez
[10:20] <True_Friend> both
[10:20] <SunRise> help to a geril, please
[10:20] <c0nv1ct> well crap, amarok doesnt seem to like the other output plugins
[10:21] <SunRise> *girl
[10:21] <c0nv1ct> whats the problem SunRise
[10:21] <SunRise> oh, thank's god...i received ananswer =)  is there any way to check my hard disk Errors which has NTFS file system?
[10:22] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) value?
[10:22] <True_Friend> here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9785/
[10:22] <c0nv1ct> SunRise: fsck is the filesystem checker, but i'm not 100% sure it supports ntfs
[10:23] <c0nv1ct> SunRise: you can always check it inside Windows :)
[10:23] <Skuller> c0nv1ct: it does...this morning it auto scanned it for error saying i had mounted it 30 times already without a single check
[10:23] <c0nv1ct> Skuller: ah cool, good to know
[10:23] <Orange1> Skuller: how do i disable that or make it longer
[10:23] <SunRise> conv1ct: thanks...but i can boot windows, it dosn't work :(
[10:23] <SunRise> *cfy njt
[10:23] <SunRise> can not*
[10:23] <Skuller> Orange1: disable what or make what longer?
[10:23] <c0nv1ct> SunRise: ahh, then go ahead and try running fsck on it
[10:24] <Orange1> Skuller: that scanning thing every 30 mounts
[10:24] <Orange1> i get it 2-3 times every 2 days
[10:24] <c0nv1ct> Orange1: reboot less :P
[10:24] <Orange1> i restart alot
[10:24] <Skuller> Orange1: sorry no idea....it did this after 3 weeks to me though
[10:24] <SunRise> c0nv1ct: i'll try
[10:25] <Orange1> c0nv1ct: still learning kubuntu - must restart heavily -- i read somewhere that only times u ever need to restart is for a kernal upgrade -- so i guess its possible to reboot less if u know the cmds to manually restart services...
[10:26] <c0nv1ct> Orange1: reboots are expected during the first few days of configuring, after you get everything set right, it wont be a hassle
[10:26] <Orange1> where can i find the boot log
[10:26] <Orange1> i get alot of 'key' errors i need to research
[10:27] <c0nv1ct> Orange1: /var/log
[10:27] <purpleplether> how do you read a vista live file system cd/dvd w/ kubuntu
[10:27] <True_Friend> i think i should explain once again facing problem of a mounted partition lost here is the out put at paste bin plz suggest me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9785/
[10:27] <c1|freaky> is there any other ipod software for kubuntu than gtkpod? it doesnt really work doesnt display any songs which are on my ipod
[10:27] <Orange1> c1|freaky: have u tried the other two?
[10:27] <daftman> do anybody else have a problem with kde kicker menu?
[10:27] <c1|freaky> Orange1: /var/log/
[10:28] <c1|freaky> Orange1: umm, no ;D can you give me the page again? :)
[10:28] <daftman> i cant move the system tray to the place I want
[10:28] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: on line 15 of that pastebin, change vfat to ntfs
[10:28] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: its line 14 sorry
[10:28] <Orange1> http://howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntu6.10
[10:28] <c1|freaky> thx :)
[10:28] <True_Friend> and hda1
[10:28] <True_Friend> but problem is in hda8
[10:29] <True_Friend> it is lost
[10:29] <True_Friend> and there is no change made in this partition
[10:29] <True_Friend> :(
[10:29] <corveum> Is there GUI tool that will allow me to mount smb shares at will?
[10:29] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: yeah, next to /media/hda8 in fstab, change vfat to ntfs so it will automount properly
[10:29] <Orange1> anyone know what single_command mode is?
[10:30] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: are you having problems with hda1 as well?
[10:30] <True_Friend> nops
[10:30] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: yes if you are kubuntu
[10:30] <corveum> That's why I'm in this IRC
[10:30] <True_Friend> simply it is not writeable which is normal for a ntfs
[10:30] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: so its just /dev/hda8 then?
[10:30] <True_Friend> but hda8 which is fat32 creating problem
[10:30] <True_Friend> and it is also not changed
[10:31] <True_Friend> only reinstall of windows let it brust
[10:31] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: no, /dev/hda8 is NTFS, look at the fdisk -l output
[10:31] <corveum> Is it in the default build? Or do I need to download a seperate tool?
[10:31] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: K --> System Settings --> Internet & network --> sharing
[10:31] <True_Friend> ok i try this but it should not
[10:31] <genii> corveum In Konqueror just put smb://  instead of http:// or so
[10:31] <corveum> smb in Conqueror doesn't mount the share.
[10:32] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: to test it now before you reboot after making changes to fstab, type this
[10:32] <c0nv1ct> True_Friend: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda8 /media/hda8
[10:32] <True_Friend> ok i try it
[10:36] <c0nv1ct> weird, i have to keep amarok at 80% volume, or it gets scratchy
[10:37] <Cugel> convict: that may have to do with general sound settings -- try getting overall sound less loud?
[10:38] <c0nv1ct> Cugel: even if i drop the master volume down, and put amarok at 100%, its quieter but scratchy still
[10:38] <corveum> TheGateKeeper: When I go to Sharing and enter Administrator mode I still don't have access to any of the controls. Is something wrong with my install?
[10:38] <caotic> Hi, im having a problem setting the root file sistem
[10:38] <Cugel> Hmm, that's strange. Maybe people in #amarok can help.
[10:38] <c0nv1ct> Cugel: but forcing it to use alsa seems to make it better
[10:38] <Timsen> c0nv1ct, eventually you have to volume down the PCM part in Kmix
[10:38] <Cugel> convict: yeah, actually I don't think it's particularly Amarok's fault.
[10:39] <c0nv1ct> Timsen: i've turned that down as well
[10:39] <caotic> i have several partitions, i have set one to be "/" but the wizard still tell me that there is no root file system
[10:39] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: have you installed samba?
[10:39] <c0nv1ct> Timsen: its at about 2/3rds max
[10:39] <c0nv1ct> well, more like 3/4
[10:39] <caotic> im in step 5 of 6 of the instalation, an it wont let me go any further
[10:39] <corveum> TheGateKeeper: yes and smbfs
[10:40] <corveum> (well samba is pre-existing in Kubuntu isn't it?)
[10:41] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: no you have to install samba only the client is installed by default
[10:41] <corveum> Anyone - How do I load Kubuntu Help files? All I've got in my install is this damned UNIX Manual
[10:41] <corveum> TheGateKeeper: well, now how do I do that?
[10:41] <c0nv1ct> corveum: the 'man' command is your friend :P
[10:42] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: sudo apt-get install samba
[10:42] <caotic> never mind, i found out what was the problem, i had a raiserfs filesistem on it
[10:43] <corveum> I hate to say it, and I hope you guys to lambast me, but all this command line stuff is why Linux is never going to become a "user" OS... ok getting samba now
[10:43] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Samba_Server
[10:43] <c0nv1ct> corveum: there is a GUI apt-get alternative
[10:43] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: well use synaptic
[10:43] <Cugel> corveum: most of the stuff you want can be done from the GUI -- but the command line is actually easier and more powerful. What would you prefer?
[10:43] <caotic> corveum, htere is almost always a click/next wizard for whatever you want todo
[10:43] <c0nv1ct> corveum: believe it or not, using the CLI is actually faster in many cases
[10:43] <Cugel> But I agree with you.
[10:44] <corveum> Synaptic isn't in the default Kubuntu install... so how do I get that one?
[10:44] <c0nv1ct> corveum: use Adept Manager
[10:44] <corveum> Who wants a click next wizard. That's the last thing I want
[10:44] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: apt-get install synaptic
[10:44] <smile> hello Linux People
[10:45] <corveum> Same as Synaptic... not in the Kubuntu default install
[10:45] <smile> I hav a problem to install Compiz on NVIDIA .... any help plz ???????????????????????
[10:45] <corveum> hi smile
[10:45] <Cugel> smile: what is the problem, then?
[10:45] <caotic> will it be a smarth move to make a single boot partition for multiple distributions  asuming they will change/update the kernel ?
[10:45] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: the default installed gui package manager is adept, which IMHO is rubbish
[10:45] <c0nv1ct> corveum: you dont have to install Synaptic, Adept Manager accomplishes the same thing
[10:46] <corveum> Oh, I use command line alot, don't get me wrong... but having to relearn all this UNIX is not what I have time to do right now
[10:46] <smile> Cugel: i installed Compiz and Nvidia-xgl but the X server dont start
[10:46] <corveum> TheGateKeeper: I agree with you there
[10:46] <Cugel> gatekeeper: what's wrong with Adept? It does the updating fine.
[10:46] <corveum> Updating, but what about know what else is available?
[10:46] <c0nv1ct> Cugel: it has a search box, thats all i need it for
[10:47] <Cugel> smile: it means your xorg.conf file is broken -- probably. Basically we need to see that file.
[10:47] <TheGateKeeper> Cugel: try installing java, then you will find out one of the many reasons I don't like it
[10:47] <c0nv1ct> smile: did you follow a HOWTO?
[10:47] <corveum> Yes, but I don't even know what packages I need... so not much use for me
[10:47] <Cugel> gatekeeper: java is really broken on my machine, can you elaborate on that?
[10:47] <c0nv1ct> TheGateKeeper: thats because java requires you to accept a license agreement
[10:47] <smile> Cugel: when I type "compiz" i get "gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images"  and "No composite extension"
[10:47] <Cugel> But I used automatix2... (yes I know, I'm not worthy).
[10:47] <c0nv1ct> TheGateKeeper: if you enable verbose while its installing, you can hit accept,
[10:47] <TheGateKeeper> c0nv1ct: got it in one :-) :-)
[10:47] <smile> c0nv1ct: yes .. 2 HOWTO .. the same
[10:48] <smile> Cugel: my xorg.conf is fine
[10:48] <c0nv1ct> smile: can you link the howto?
[10:48] <corveum> Samba sure seems awfully big. . . Sigh why can't networks just get along - sniff -
[10:48] <c0nv1ct> smile: its possible you may of missed a step
[10:49] <c0nv1ct> corveum: i've always prefered microsoft services for unix, than samba for linux :)
[10:49] <TheGateKeeper> c0nv1ct: synaptic lets you look at the terminal output whenever you want, adept is a BAD example or re-inventing the wheel
[10:49] <smile> c0nv1ct: no .. i did it 4 times ... the same problm
[10:49] <c0nv1ct> TheGateKeeper: adept does that too, u just click the button
[10:49] <smile> c0nv1ct: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[10:49] <smile> Cugel: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[10:50] <corveum> c0nv1ct: I assume Microsoft bought their good networking from Nothern Telecommunications, because they sure ruined it when the release Active Directory
[10:50] <c0nv1ct> smile: do you have a nvidia card?
[10:51] <smile> c0nv1ct: gfore FX 5200
[10:51] <c0nv1ct> corveum: hehe, i prefer NDS or as its known now eDirectory for LDAP
[10:51] <smile> c0nv1ct: Gforce
[10:51] <c0nv1ct> smile: then you dont need to install XGL, thats a really old HOWTO
[10:51] <c0nv1ct> smile: are you using kubuntu Edgy?
[10:52] <smile> c0nv1ct: i installed nvidia-xgl
[10:52] <smile> c0nv1ct: is this ?
[10:52] <Cugel> I have a question too. dmesg shows me massive amounts of errors like 'FAT: Directory bread(block 79) failed' -- they originate from my (disconnected) external harddisk. Is there any way to do something about that?
[10:53] <c0nv1ct> smile: yeah, that howto has you installing XGL, when you can use nvidia's support for AIGLX instead
[10:53] <c0nv1ct> XGL is actually harder on resources, and really doesnt do anything better that i've seen
[10:53] <c0nv1ct> and AFAIK it doesnt support direct rendering, which blows
[10:54] <smile> c0nv1ct: AIXGL ?? is this like XGL ?
[10:54] <blue|palm> my apt-get is broken... I tried to install a package that tried to overwrite another package but failed... now everytime i invoke apt-get to do anything it tries to install the package (dcraw) and fails every time... how do i fix this?
[10:54] <c0nv1ct> smile: yes, its the same thing, but it runs on top of Xorg, and doesnt require a seperate process like XGL to run too
[10:55] <smile> c0nv1ct: and AIXGL runs Compiz too ?
[10:55] <c0nv1ct> smile: i can help you fix your XGL, but I ended up reinstalling kubuntu cuz i messed it up so bad trying to remove XGL, lol
[10:55] <blue|palm> c0nv1ct: but some of us are forced to use XGL namely ati users
[10:55] <fdoving> blue|palm: when it fails you get the full path to the package at the end of the error message. 'sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i <path-to-package>'
[10:55] <c0nv1ct> blue|palm: yeah, thats why i asked if he had nvidia first off :P
[10:56] <c0nv1ct> blue|palm: nvidia users got it much easier in linux
[10:56] <blue|palm> fdoving: but i dont want to overwrite it... i just want it to stop installing :(
[10:56] <c0nv1ct> smile: yes, it runs compiz too
[10:56] <blue|palm> c0nv1ct: I agree
[10:56] <fdoving> blue|palm: ok, then remove the package. 'sudo dpkg -P dcraw'
[10:56] <blue|palm> fdoving: lol is it that simple :) thanks
[10:57] <corveum> How is autofs? any good?
[10:57] <c0nv1ct> smile: did you modify your gdm.conf-custom like it says in the howto?
[10:57] <blue|palm> fdoving: I was trying to remove it via apt-get i should have tried dpkg... thanks
[10:57] <TheGateKeeper> c0nv1ct: well all I know is that a lot of people have come in here asking for help after attempting to install java with adept & it breaking their system, what really put me off is when it crashes & burned when I tried to install more than one package at a time
[10:58] <smile> c0nv1ct: yes
[10:58] <c0nv1ct> TheGateKeeper: i always have people install java with apt-get anyway, much simpler
[10:58] <TheGateKeeper> s/crashes/crashed
[10:58] <c0nv1ct> smile: please tell me you backed it up before you edited it
[10:58] <smile> c0nv1ct: yes .. i did everything
[10:58] <TheGateKeeper> c0nv1ct: me too :-)
[10:59] <blue|palm> fdoving: thanks loads
[10:59] <c0nv1ct> smile: you are using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[10:59] <fdoving> blue|palm: you're welcome.
[10:59] <blue|palm> fdoving: it was actually the package kubuntu-desktop that was conflicting (it was relying on digikam which was relying on dcraw)
[10:59] <smile> c0nv1ct: both
[11:00] <c0nv1ct> smile: ah ok, so you use GDM, and have both gnome and kde installed
[11:00] <smile> c0nv1ct: but i installed it on Gnome means Ubuntu
[11:00] <smile> c0nv1ct: when I type "compiz" i get "gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images"  and "No composite extension"
[11:00] <c0nv1ct> smile: ahh ok
[11:01] <c0nv1ct> smile: in that howto, it explains what to do for that
[11:01] <corveum> c0nv1ct: what were you saying about the man command?
[11:01] <c0nv1ct> smile: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9788/
[11:01] <c0nv1ct> smile: add those 3 lines to the bottom of your xorg.conf
[11:02] <c0nv1ct> corveum: i thought thats what u were talking about when u mentioned UNIX manuals
[11:02] <smile> c0nv1ct: i did it already
[11:03] <c0nv1ct> smile: and you still get an error about missing composite?
[11:03] <c0nv1ct> smile: you did restart X after you made that change right?
[11:03] <stamen> hi
[11:03] <stamen> how to mount ntfs partition with write permission
[11:03] <smile> c0nv1ct: ya .. i restart my computer
[11:04] <stamen> I am with new kernel which supports this
[11:04] <blue|palm> Is there any way to speed up kubuntu? It boots up really slowly. and in kde launcing applications takes about 3-5 seconds. I have a dual core AMD FX-60 cpu with an 80GB ATA hdd and 1GB of ram so i dont think its my hardware. Konqueror is by far the slowest of the lot
[11:04] <smile> but .. i cant start X
[11:04] <smile> c0nv1ct: but .. i cant start X
[11:04] <c0nv1ct> smile: what error do you get when X fails?
[11:04] <stamen> but I don't know how to do this
[11:04] <smile> c0nv1ct: compatibility with NVIDIA driver
[11:04] <c0nv1ct> smile: does it say there are mismatched modules?
[11:05] <c0nv1ct> smile: something like, found 97## but expected 87##?
[11:05] <smile> c0nv1ct: NO
[11:05] <c0nv1ct> smile: what is the exact error
[11:06] <smile> c0nv1ct: NVIDIA module not found
[11:06] <c0nv1ct> smile: ok, you need to reinstall your nvidia drivers
[11:07] <c0nv1ct> smile: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851&highlight=disable+module+nv
[11:07] <c0nv1ct> smile: follow that guide starting at STEP 2
[11:07] <warewolf_> Anyone help me get my microphone working?
[11:07] <c0nv1ct> smile: and dont go to STEP 3
[11:08] <smile> c0nv1ct: but i installed nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[11:08] <c0nv1ct> smile: from apt-get? if so those are old
[11:09] <smile> c0nv1ct: yes .. from apt-get .. so where can i find new driver ?
[11:09] <c0nv1ct> smile: wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run
[11:09] <ubuntu_> hi, I want to cold flash a nokia 770 but when I want to do this, there alwazs comes, you need to supply the second image..any ideas what that means_
[11:09] <c0nv1ct> smile: those are the latest drivers, so when following the instructions in STEP 2 of that guide, run that instead of the 9260 or whatever it says
[11:10] <smile> c0nv1ct: by the way .. can I install Beryl ?
[11:10] <smile> c0nv1ct: on ubuntu DAPPER !
[11:10] <c0nv1ct> smile: if you want, but compiz and beryl dont always play nice together
[11:10] <c0nv1ct> smile: you are on dapper?
[11:10] <smile> c0nv1ct: ya
[11:10] <smile> c0nv1ct: i want install compiz OR beryl
[11:11] <c0nv1ct> smile: ok, you should be fine anyway
[11:11] <smile> c0nv1ct: thxs alot
[11:11] <c0nv1ct> smile: you can run beryl if you want, its considered to be less stable than compiz though
[11:11] <smile> c0nv1ct: i will try that
[11:11] <c0nv1ct> smile: that same guide will tell ya how to install beryl if ya want
[11:12] <smile> c0nv1ct: ok .. thank u .. i'll try
[11:12] <Orange1> what package do i need to view quicktime .mov files  being streamed on firefox
[11:13] <c0nv1ct> smile: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336412&highlight=latest+nvidia could be a better HOWTO for installing nvidia drivers
[11:13] <Jucato> !info mozilla-mplayer | Orange1
[11:13] <ubotu> orange1: mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[11:13] <c0nv1ct> its more recent
[11:14] <CrypTom> Hi all, I've got a strange effect: I installed kubuntu on my new ThinkPad X60, when I put it in the dock and boot using an external display, I get 1280x1024 resolution for kdm, as soon as I log in, it switches back to 1024x768. Why is that?
[11:14] <warewolf_> Anyone able to figure out why KMIX isn't talking to the alsomixer?
[11:14] <Hasrat_USA> CrypTom:
[11:15] <sorush20> when I download a source where do they get downloaded to ?
[11:15] <c0nv1ct> sorush20: depends on what you used to download it
[11:15] <warewolf_> Or know why I can't have teamspeak and amarok open at the same time?
[11:15] <fdoving> sorush20: with apt-get source?
[11:16] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: Yes?
[11:16] <Hasrat_USA> CrypTom: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:16] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: does teamspeak use OSS or ALSA?
[11:16] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: what kind of changes do I need to make?
[11:16] <sorush20> fdoving: yes
[11:16] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: it's set to use OSS, not sure how to change to alsa (I don't know the pathname to the device)
[11:17] <fdoving> sorush20: to the directory you issue the command from.
[11:17] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: you can try setting amarok to use OSS as well, see if that fixed is
[11:17] <c0nv1ct> it*
[11:17] <Hasrat_USA> you would need to add "1280x1024" before every "1024x768"
[11:17] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: what should the also device path be?
[11:17] <Hasrat_USA> and restart x
[11:17] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: I already did that
[11:17] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i had the same problem using wine and amarok, but making wine use OSS fixed it
[11:17] <sorush20> what I I do it from synaptic?
[11:17] <sorush20> or adept
[11:18] <TheGateKeeper> isn't there an issue with more than 1 app wanting to use the sound card?
[11:18] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: the resolution 1280x1024 is chosen, but only for the login screen (kdm)
[11:18] <Hasrat_USA> CrypTom: paste your xorg into pastebin.ca and post the link
[11:18] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: ok
[11:19] <Orange1> Jucato: thanks
[11:19] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: so you say to make them on the same? or different?
[11:19] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: try making them the same, if that doesnt work, have one use ALSA and the other OSS
[11:20] <Jucato> Orange1: sure
[11:21] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i have amarok using alsa, and wine using oss, and both are working, but didnt when both were using alsa, so it might be related
[11:21] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i havent used teamspeak since installing ubuntu, so i cant test that configuration specifically
[11:21] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: The link: http://pastebin.ca/390295 (this is the xorg.conf created by the most recent knoppix, and it works well with knoppix).
[11:22] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: I'm confused as to why KMIX doesn't change the volume on my mic.. had to open alsomixer in a console to get it working right
[11:23] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: weird, i tested my mic yesterday, and kmix was working
[11:23] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: in gnome I could change the audio driver.. not in kmix?
[11:24] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: I modified the original xorg.conf (that is created when installing kubuntu) by adding what you said, but then I get 640x480 !!!
[11:25] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: I've done this on several other notebooks before, I never had that much trouble
[11:25] <Hasrat_USA> ok hang on a sec
[11:25] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i'm not sure where to change the driver globally in kde
[11:26] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: oh, its in kcontrol, duh
[11:26] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: do you know the path for the alsa driver then? I know my oss is /dev/dsp
[11:26] <Hasrat_USA> oh crap
[11:26] <Hasrat_USA> why does it look like that
[11:27] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: no, i'm not sure of the actual path
[11:27] <crazyrobot> my alt+F1-F6 is only showing half the screen, does anybody know how to fix this?
[11:27] <picca> hi, i've just bought a Philips X55 laptop and can't get Kubuntu to install it.  It hangs when trying to load the "8139too" driver ... is it possible to tell kubuntu at boot time not to use this driver?
[11:27] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: what do you mean? the many comments?
[11:27] <Hasrat_USA> oh no it's ok
[11:28] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: OK, using OSS for teampspeak and OSS for Amarok fails...
[11:28] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: it could be /dev/adsp
[11:28] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: try amarok with alsa
[11:30] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: no go... I swear they aren't really changing..
[11:30] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: be sure to restart amarok between changes, it was crashing when i didnt do that
[11:30] <Hasrat_USA> CrypTom: i take it you can get 1280x1024 during KDM's login splash screen but as soon as it logs in, it goes back to that other resolution, right?
[11:30] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: thats right
[11:31] <Hasrat_USA> that's an improvement
[11:31] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: Still nothin... in the control panel, should I leave it on auto detect for the sound driver? I've got full duplex on..
[11:31] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: but when I use the xorg.conf created from ubuntu (and adding manually "1280x1024") I end up getting 640x480!!!
[11:31] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: you can, but i think it picks alsa, lol
[11:31] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: what app works when both are running? amarok only?
[11:32] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: correct... no matter what my music flows =P (someone maybe doesn't want to hear my voice badly?)
[11:32] <Hasrat_USA> well if you delete 1280... again you will get back to previous state
[11:32] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: yeah, it sounds like teamspeak needs to be reconfigured then
[11:33] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: I know it worked back with 6.06 and 6.10 out of the box...
[11:33] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: try /dev/adsp
[11:33] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: then I get 1024x768
[11:33] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i've seen this problem before, but never saw a solution, unless it was you in here before lol
[11:34] <CrypTom> Hasrat_USA: maybe the problem is that I installed kubuntu without an external display (but I always did that with earlier laptops)
[11:34] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: nah.. I've never needed help in the past with this same machine... I'm guessing it's a 7.04 glitch.. or KDE.. was using ubuntu previously
[11:34] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: thats entirely possible, 7.04 is far from perfect :)
[11:35] <Hasrat_USA> may be...but i'm running a 20 inch over here and i also made similar mistake during install and resolution was a little screwed up but i fixed it simply adding 1280x1204 to the xorg
[11:35] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: I've had some quirks using Kubuntu vs ubuntu.. kinda strange that anything other then interface is different
[11:36] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: not that i am aware of
[11:36] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: No version of Kubuntu I've tried auto mounts my windows partitions... all version of ubuntu do... thats one thing :)
[11:36] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i actually started with ubuntu, with a kubuntu-desktop installed on top, then reinstalled completely to kubuntu
[11:36] <smile> c0nv1ct: r u here ?
[11:36] <c0nv1ct> smile: hi again, any luck?
[11:37] <Orange1> http://www.winehq.com is this site down for anyone?
[11:37] <smile> c0nv1ct: the 2 HOWTOs are for EDGY not DAPPER !! is that fine ?
[11:37] <c0nv1ct> smile: it should be, the nvidia installer builds a custom kernel module for your specific kernel
[11:38] <c0nv1ct> smile: wait
[11:38] <c0nv1ct> smile: it says not to use on dapper, lol
[11:38] <c0nv1ct> smile: or no, if you upgraded from dapper
[11:38] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: no luck with adsp or /audio
[11:39] <c0nv1ct> smile: you may want to use the older howto then
[11:39] <smile> c0nv1ct: so i must upgrade my DAPPER to EDGY ?
[11:39] <c0nv1ct> smile: no, that wont help
[11:39] <smile> c0nv1ct: wich HOWTO should i use so ?
[11:39] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: this is crazy... why must I pick full-duplex? that should be a given =P
[11:40] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[11:40] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: deselecting full-duplex fixed it??
[11:40] <firemonkeyballz> im just trying to find drivers for my realtek hd
[11:40] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: no... I'm just looking through options to see if I maybe missed something magical
[11:41] <firemonkeyballz> digital versions
[11:41] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: thats what I've got... RT HD 7.1+2
[11:41] <firemonkeyballz> 883?
[11:41] <smile> c0nv1ct: should i use so the Beryl HOWTO from step 2?
[11:42] <c0nv1ct> smile: 1 sec, for some reason i cant type in firefox anymore
[11:42] <firemonkeyballz> did come accross some analog drivers in a blog
[11:42] <firemonkeyballz> however
[11:42] <firemonkeyballz> the link was dead
[11:42] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: try looking up "azalia"?
[11:43] <firemonkeyballz> yea
[11:43] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: kinda suprised since that is Tied to Intel that there aren't drivers for linux..
[11:43] <c0nv1ct> smile: i'm not sure now, since they are for edgy, and you have dapper, i dont wanna make things worse, lol
[11:43] <Hasrat_USA> there is nothing as stupid and useless as window preview in beryl
[11:44] <smile> c0nv1ct: so .. i see i will not run Compiz on my comp :-(
[11:44] <warewolf_> Hasrat_USA: Stupid = system hard locks if wireless and beryl at same time =P
[11:44] <c0nv1ct> smile: i'm sure its possible in dapper, but it'd be best to follow a howto specifically for dapper
[11:44] <warewolf_> smile: You ATI or NVIDIA?
[11:44] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: hes nvidia, luckily
[11:45] <firemonkeyballz> i have ATI and got that to work
[11:45] <smile> warewolf_: NVIDIA
[11:45] <Hasrat_USA> warewolf_: ati?
[11:45] <new-to-ubuntu> hi
[11:45] <new-to-ubuntu> I've got a question
[11:45] <warewolf_> smile: beryl or compiz? I've run both on both brands
[11:45] <new-to-ubuntu> there is this one upgrade that shows up
[11:45] <Hasrat_USA> warewolf_: ati?
[11:45] <new-to-ubuntu> that never completely goes trhough
[11:45] <new-to-ubuntu> I mean through
[11:45] <warewolf_> Hasrat_USA: Video card brand?
[11:45] <smile> warewolf_: compiz on dapper
[11:45] <Hasrat_USA> yes
[11:46] <new-to-ubuntu> it is called dvd+rw-tools
[11:46] <new-to-ubuntu> its status is upgradable
[11:46] <new-to-ubuntu> but when I request it to be upgrade
[11:46] <firemonkeyballz> new-to thought ubuntu could do that already
[11:46] <new-to-ubuntu> it will say "break (upgradale)"
[11:47] <Hasrat_USA> warewolf_: if you are runniing Beryl on Ati you are prone to contronting many problems by default
[11:47] <Hasrat_USA> fortunately feisty is coming on april 7
[11:47] <new-to-ubuntu> firemonkeyballz: what do you mean by ubuntu could do that already
[11:47] <firemonkeyballz> there are tools to burn DVDs
[11:47] <warewolf_> Hasrat_USA: I'm not running ATI.. i'm trying to help someone run XGL =P
[11:48] <warewolf_> Hasrat_USA: I'm looking for the guide I used for dapper / compiz that worked well
[11:48] <new-to-ubuntu> I understand but 1) I don't have a dvd burner 2) the package has been showing on my upgrade list for a couple of days now
[11:48] <crazyrobot> new-to-ubuntu: so download the source, and compile it, its the newest version anyway.
[11:48] <crazyrobot> 7
[11:48] <hyper_ch> new-to-ubuntu: open a command line interface and try this:   sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade      --> Will you then be able to upgrade it?
[11:49] <firemonkeyballz> you can opt to not upgrade
[11:49] <new-to-ubuntu> I have tryed that but I will do that again
[11:50] <hyper_ch> new-to-ubuntu: you tried a dist-upgrade?
[11:50] <new-to-ubuntu> does that go all in one line of command? because I usually have done that process in two lines
[11:50] <c0nv1ct> smile: try running sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --composite
[11:50] <hyper_ch> new-to-ubuntu: yes, all one line.... well the stuff between    ":"  and "-->"
[11:50] <new-to-ubuntu> yes I had tried "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:50] <c0nv1ct> smile: and see if that lets X start
[11:50] <crazyrobot> before you do a dist-upgrade you have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:51] <firemonkeyballz> new-to then theres another command after that
[11:51] <warewolf_> smile: are you not wanting beryl?
[11:51] <firemonkeyballz> you select the package to upgrade
[11:51] <firemonkeyballz> im not sure what the command is
[11:51] <new-to-ubuntu> afterwhat do you want me to edit out of the sources.list?
[11:52] <new-to-ubuntu> This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.
[11:52] <new-to-ubuntu> that si what I just got
[11:52] <new-to-ubuntu> hahaha
[11:52] <smile> warewolf_: why not ?
[11:52] <crazyrobot> you have to change all the dapper to edgy or whatever dist you want to upgrade to.
[11:52] <hyper_ch> new-to-ubuntu: hmmm.... then it's interesting that you can't upgrade...
[11:52] <calcmandan> Using Kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS. Just installed wine via the repository. The font is really ugly, but cannot find where to change it. Anyone have a tip?
[11:52] <smile> warewolf_: but i saw in a HOWTO that Beryl is not stable on ubuntu !
[11:52] <crazyrobot> change all the dappers and that apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade then apt-get upgrade.
[11:53] <new-to-ubuntu> caugt it
[11:53] <hyper_ch> smile: oh well, something not called stable does not mean a lot :)
[11:53] <firemonkeyballz> I think for most it would just be easier to download the dvd iso
[11:53] <new-to-ubuntu> for some reason when I had copied the command from here it had copied it twice
[11:53] <firemonkeyballz> or get it from a friend
[11:53] <warewolf_> smile: just wondering.. i think they are both very unstable =P anyways.. there are much better guides and scripts for beryl
[11:53] <smile> calcmandan: type "winecfg" to configure wine
[11:53] <hyper_ch> new-to-ubuntu: it works now?
[11:53] <calcmandan> I was just there. I saw no mention of fonts.
[11:53] <new-to-ubuntu> now it is going through
[11:54] <smile> warewolf_: give it to me so
[11:54] <new-to-ubuntu> and it proposed a lot of changes apparently
[11:54] <new-to-ubuntu> thank you gang
[11:54] <Orange1> anyone know if flash professional 8 works on kubuntu (with wine or another method) -- winehq.com isnt loading for me
[11:55] <hyper_ch> Orange1: it works 100% with vmware or virtualbox :)
[11:55] <hyper_ch> not sure about about wine
[11:55] <new-to-ubuntu> but you know it is proposing getting rid of my whole kubuntu-desktop
[11:55] <warewolf_> smile: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[11:55] <new-to-ubuntu> :P
[11:55] <new-to-ubuntu> I had not realized that detail
[11:55] <crazyrobot> it will probably reinstall the new one.
[11:55] <new-to-ubuntu> well I will reinstall it
[11:55] <crazyrobot> new-to-ubuntu
[11:55] <hyper_ch> new-to-ubuntu: that is strange... what did you do with your system?
[11:55] <new-to-ubuntu> well not much that I know of
[11:55] <c0nv1ct> smile: notice how it says (recommended) for AIGLX on that page? :P
[11:56] <Orange1> vmware is jus ickky
[11:56] <crazyrobot> new-to-ubuntu: when i upgraded my dual xenon box from edgy to feisty it did the same thing
[11:56] <new-to-ubuntu> to which particular thing of all I have done to this system could you be referring to?
[11:56] <new-to-ubuntu> hahaha
[11:56] <hyper_ch> Orange1: you can try virtualbox then
[11:56] <smile> c0nv1ct: what do u mean ?
[11:56] <new-to-ubuntu> well I haven't changed any hardware
[11:56] <hyper_ch> crazyrobot: you're on feisty and using konvesation?
[11:56] <Orange1> hyper_ch: i used vmware and it was just too 'laggy' for me - thou this is a 'top' system
[11:56] <c0nv1ct> smile: just saying, XGL is the hard way... but you'll be ok
[11:57] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: Don't make the poor guys life difficult =P
[11:57] <crazyrobot> no i'm on a edgy box right now.
[11:57] <hyper_ch> Orange1: it's not laggy for me at all :)
[11:57] <new-to-ubuntu> hey gang since we are already on the subject is edgy stable already?
[11:57] <c0nv1ct> warewolf_: i feel his pain, i did XGL first, and regretted it
[11:57] <new-to-ubuntu> I mean kind of sort of?
[11:57] <hyper_ch> new-to-ubuntu: edgy has been stable a long time
[11:57] <Orange1> c0nv1ct: ya talkin about installing beryl with xgl?
[11:57] <firemonkeyballz> wolf you wanan exchange contact info if either of us find drivers?
[11:58] <new-to-ubuntu> I might consider upgrading then
[11:58] <smile> warewolf_: i'm not a newbiz .. i'm pro .. i can do anything
[11:58] <Orange1> hyper_ch: u need to do more intensive stuff -- til ya make vmware stop responding
[11:58] <hyper_ch> there are still some issues upgrading from dapper to edgy I think... not sure anymore
[11:58] <warewolf_> c0nv1ct: I honestly don't know which I'm running.. either way a script did it all for 7.04 =P
[11:58] <new-to-ubuntu> last I checked it was a couple of months ago and it still was kind of flakey according to someone in this channel
[11:58] <smile> warewolf_: i tried compiz on Suse and Mandriva Redhat & Fedora
[11:58] <oem> has anyone ever used Cedega?
[11:58] <warewolf_> smile: then tell me why beryl + wireless = hardlock for me after random interval =P
[11:58] <hyper_ch> Orange1: my old computer handles photoshop and civ3 quite well
[11:58] <c0nv1ct> oem: i have
[11:59] <oem> i installed WoW but cannot play it
[11:59] <new-to-ubuntu> so in order to upgrade just change every "dapper" for "edgy" in my sources list?
[11:59] <firemonkeyballz> smile just downlaod the kubuntu version and test it via live cd
[11:59] <smile> warewolf_: i didnt try that frankly
[11:59] <firemonkeyballz> if you have problems with it
[11:59] <firemonkeyballz> then
[11:59] <firemonkeyballz> just alert the community
[11:59] <smile> warewolf_: i see u r not helpful .. bye
[11:59] <hyper_ch> new-to-ubuntu: basically yes... but first check on the kubuntu site whether upgrade still has some issues
[11:59] <Orange1> smile: harsh
[11:59] <new-to-ubuntu> allright
[11:59] <warewolf_> lol
[11:59] <new-to-ubuntu> hahaha
[12:00] <new-to-ubuntu> that will give me something to do
[12:00] <oem> can anyone help me??
[12:00] <new-to-ubuntu> allright gang I think I'm going to give it a try
[12:00] <crazyrobot> anybody know how to change the default shell from 40x25 to 80x25?
[12:00] <new-to-ubuntu> see you in a bit I'll let you guys know how it whent
[12:00] <c0nv1ct> oem: what error are you getting?
[12:00] <warewolf_> new-to-ubuntu: good luck
[12:00] <oem> none it just wont play
[12:00] <new-to-ubuntu> thanks warewolf_
[12:01] <new-to-ubuntu> :)
[12:01] <c0nv1ct> oem: type 'glxinfo | grep direct' and tell me if it says Direct Rendering: yes
[12:02] <oem> it says all zeros behind each test
[12:02] <oem> missing glx
[12:03] <oem> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:03] <c0nv1ct> oem: did you run the system tests in Cedega?
[12:03] <firemonkeyballz> wheee have direct rendering :D
[12:03] <firemonkeyballz> no wonder its fast
[12:03] <c0nv1ct> oem: if any of them fail, contact cedega support
[12:03] <oem> ummm
[12:03] <oem> ok
[12:03] <oem> why
[12:03] <c0nv1ct> oem: cuz if they fail, cedega wont work, and the cedega forums will help you fix it
[12:05] <oem> ok just ran the test it failed at direct rendering
[12:05] <firemonkeyballz> well off to find drivers for the alc883
[12:05] <c0nv1ct> yep, thats a problem, you probably need to reinstall your video drivers
[12:05] <c0nv1ct> oem: what video card do you use, and do you use XGL?
[12:05] <oem> HAHAHAHAHA      yeah whish i knew how
[12:05] <oem> nividia
[12:06] <c0nv1ct> oem: are you on edgy? and are you running XGL?
[12:06] <oem> ooon edgy not know the other
[12:06] <c0nv1ct> oem: default edgy doesnt use xgl, so probably not
[12:06] <c0nv1ct> oem: what nvidia card is it?
[12:07] <qex> hi
[12:07] <qex> i got a huge problem..
[12:07] <oem> sec
[12:07] <c0nv1ct> oem: if its series 6 or higher, i got a guide for ya, that'll fix your glx problem
[12:07] <qex> im using kubuntu and i need to know what my motherboards name is?
[12:07] <firemonkeyballz> wolf if your interested on that link I found
[12:07] <firemonkeyballz> http://uk.blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-kLgobDE_cqVv1JH8Yrs5u0AOygiyr1iiv0erhcaU_BKG?p=5
[12:07] <qex> any code or software to se that?
[12:08] <oem> it is (GeForce FX 5500 256mb AGP)
[12:08] <qex> is there any software to se wich motherboard and so on .. i got in my computer?? please help...
[12:09] <c0nv1ct> !nvidia
[12:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:09] <c0nv1ct> try that oem
[12:09] <oem> ok
[12:09] <crazyrobot> look at your bios
[12:09] <qex> ? me?
[12:09] <crazyrobot> qex: yeah
[12:09] <qex> but isnt there any software to look it up?
[12:10] <c0nv1ct> qex: not that i've ever found
[12:10] <crazyrobot> qex: reboot your computer and hit f2 or whatever when it talks about setup.
[12:10] <qex> okay.. so the only way is in bios.. thx :)
[12:10] <oem> dude just take the cover off of your case and look
[12:10] <qex> no press DEL
[12:10] <qex> i know how bios works
[12:10] <c0nv1ct> qex: you may be able to find out specific chipsets and such, but not your actual motherboard brand and model
[12:10] <qex> but im to lazy for a reboot :P
[12:11] <qex> okey.. thx.. il give it a shot
[12:11] <firemonkeyballz> umm how do I check the kern version?
[12:11] <firemonkeyballz> just wanna make sure this is compatable
[12:11] <c0nv1ct> firemonkeyballz: uname -r
[12:11] <smile> c0nv1ct: r u here again ? ;-p
[12:12] <c0nv1ct> smile: lol yes
[12:12] <oem> ok i am reading but not sure wich kernal i am suing is it if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8.
[12:12] <firemonkeyballz> trying drivers from realtek
[12:13] <firemonkeyballz> aka the others version
[12:13] <c0nv1ct> oem: type uname -r
[12:13] <smile> c0nv1ct: i installed Nvidia-kernel-common & nvidia-glx .. everything is fine till now
[12:13] <c0nv1ct> smile: did you install the linux-restricted-modules?
[12:14] <oem> oem@ubuntu:~$ uname -r
[12:14] <oem> 2.6.17-11-generic
[12:14] <c0nv1ct> oem: thats your kernel :)
[12:14] <firemonkeyballz> cool sais that it has 883 in there
[12:14] <rambo> hello, i have a big problem starting userconfig (doesn't work in gui either)
[12:14] <firemonkeyballz> buh
[12:14] <rambo> here is the error: http://rafb.net/p/jL2WiQ26.html
[12:14] <firemonkeyballz> is it compatable
[12:14] <firemonkeyballz> hrm
[12:15] <oem> ok
[12:15] <smile> c0nv1ct: is this ncessary ?
[12:15] <c0nv1ct> smile: yes for the nvidia kernel module to be installed
[12:15] <smile> c0nv1ct: not yet .. i will do it now
[12:15] <firemonkeyballz> should work
[12:16] <firemonkeyballz> sais it uses alsa
[12:16] <c0nv1ct> smile: make sure its the right one for your kernel
[12:16] <smile> c0nv1ct: ya .. i'm not so stupid :-p
[12:17] <smile> c0nv1ct: r u a developper or just a user ?
[12:17] <firemonkeyballz> wolf
[12:17] <firemonkeyballz> u there ?
[12:17] <Hasrat_USA> my system clock says it's 7:17 AM. is that correct? i'm in NYC
[12:17] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz:
[12:17] <firemonkeyballz> think realtek have our drivers
[12:17] <c0nv1ct> smile: a user, but i'm a fully qualified administrator.... but far from a developer
[12:18] <corveum> So, the default Kubuntu install Help application only comes with a UNIX manual, is there a way to install the Kubuntu User Manual?
[12:18] <firemonkeyballz> I just need the gcc packages
[12:18] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: oh?
[12:18] <firemonkeyballz> to install
[12:18] <smile> c0nv1ct: aha .. ok
[12:18] <firemonkeyballz> just picked up the others package and it said it uses alsa
[12:18] <Red_Tear> hi
[12:19] <smile> c0nv1ct: & u just stay here soling other's problems ??
[12:19] <smile> c0nv1ct: solving
[12:19] <c0nv1ct> smile: while playing texas holdem on pokerstars, yes
[12:19] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: very cool... eta on success?
[12:19] <roberto> HI
[12:19] <roberto> How r u?
[12:19] <firemonkeyballz> have to run adept and find gcc
[12:19] <c0nv1ct> smile: i do it to learn mostly, gotta keep up on my linux skills
[12:20] <smile> c0nv1ct: hhhhhhhhh
[12:20] <c0nv1ct> smile: my degree is in network technology, if i dont keep up on stuff, i'm useless :P
[12:20] <smile> c0nv1ct: good .. me too .. i use Linux from 3 years
[12:20] <firemonkeyballz> its beter than nos's solution... wich might i mention made my kernal panic
[12:21] <firemonkeyballz> had to fix my clock afterwards
[12:21] <c0nv1ct> i've been a part time linux user since redhat 5, about 10 years or so
[12:21] <smile> c0nv1ct: i'm certified on Manager Computing Developper
[12:21] <jean-benoit> !fr
[12:21] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:21] <c0nv1ct> more and more a full time linux user every day :)
[12:21] <c0nv1ct> i gotta get my certs, but i'm too poor to pay for the tests
[12:22] <corveum> c0nv1ct: I have installed Samba, and I can now open the share folder in the system settings and create shares, but I still don't see how to mount a share from another computer on my network...
[12:22] <smile> c0nv1ct: i installed it .. i will try to restart my PC .. if i didnt send u a messag in 5 min .. so it didnt work
[12:22] <oem> i am afraid if install this that linux will break
[12:22] <c0nv1ct> corveum: i believe its mount -t smbfs, you might need to check the man pages though
[12:23] <firemonkeyballz> ummm which package in adept should I use?
[12:23] <c0nv1ct> smile: lol ok
[12:23] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: what do you hope to gain from installing their drivers?
[12:23] <firemonkeyballz> get my audio card to work 100%
[12:23] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: what isn't working?
[12:23] <smile> c0nv1ct: i should use GDM or KDM ?
[12:24] <firemonkeyballz> the midi
[12:24] <firemonkeyballz> and
[12:24] <firemonkeyballz> umm
[12:24] <c0nv1ct> smile: if you have both gnome and kde installed, use gdm
[12:24] <firemonkeyballz> synth
[12:24] <smile> c0nv1ct: ok
[12:24] <corveum> c0nv1ct: from the command line again? Is there no GUI?
[12:24] <firemonkeyballz> and ocasionally I get errors on shutdown about the mixer
[12:24] <c0nv1ct> corveum: there may be a GUI for it
[12:24] <corveum> Has anyone used autofs?
[12:25] <c0nv1ct> corveum: my expertise is mainly server-side, so CLI is what i'm used to
[12:25] <kraut> moin
[12:25] <firemonkeyballz> that and modprobe doesnt show any info
[12:25] <c0nv1ct> corveum: btw, it is smbfs for the filesystem type if you use the CLI mount command
[12:26] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: You wouldn't have a solution for Teamspeak + Amarok would you?
[12:26] <smile> c0nv1ct: when i open xorg-conf i dont see  < Load    "GLcore" > is this normal ?
[12:26] <firemonkeyballz> still a little new
[12:26] <firemonkeyballz> so I regretfuly say no
[12:27] <c0nv1ct> smile: yeah, mine doesnt have it
[12:27] <mdtyke> Hey guys! :)
[12:27] <smile> c0nv1ct: what r the 2 line i must add ??
[12:27] <corveum> c0nv1ct: I understand. This is the command I was using... smbmount //HOSTNAME/SHARE /mnt/MOUNTPOINT smbfs username=SMBUSER,password=SMBPASS
[12:27] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: Thats OK... I've tried linux a few times in the last 6 months or so.. trying to get back into it.. last time I was regular user for linux KDE was brand new =P
[12:27] <mdtyke> Just wondering if someone could help me with a few quick issues
[12:28] <c0nv1ct> smile: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9793/
[12:29] <c0nv1ct> corveum: hmm, i'm not sure, i cant test it cuz i dont have smbmount isntalled
[12:29] <corveum> c0nv1ct: that comes from a forum entry and it is the only clear command line example I've seen yet
[12:30] <mdtyke> The first one is in regards to my network.  I'm connecting via a WLAN... but everytime I connect, it changes my DNS servers to the same as my default gateway.  Now, normally that's fine.. my net will work in Konqueror, and Skype connects.. but opera, firefox, apt etc don't work
[12:30] <c0nv1ct> corveum: does smbmount work for you?
[12:30] <corveum> no, I get an error
[12:30] <mdtyke> the only resolution I have is to manually go and change my DNS servers to that of my ISPs.. which I can do, but I'm doing it every 10mins :S
[12:30] <corveum> 6454: session setup failed
[12:30] <c0nv1ct> corveum: try installing the smbfs package
[12:30] <firemonkeyballz> so umm anyone sudgest wich version of gcc to install?
[12:31] <corveum> I did that before the samba install
[12:31] <smile> c0nv1ct: when i choose gdm i get "invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed." ???????
[12:31] <c0nv1ct> smile: wow... i think your gdm.conf-custom is messed up
[12:32] <smile> c0nv1ct: no .. i have it
[12:32] <firemonkeyballz> !gcc
[12:32] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:32] <smile> c0nv1ct: in /etc/gdm/
[12:32] <c0nv1ct> smile: if i were you, i'd restore the backup you made before you edited it
[12:33] <smile> c0nv1ct: but the HOWTO tell to modify it !!
[12:33] <smile> c0nv1ct: i have the backup
[12:33] <c0nv1ct> smile: you should probably restore the backup, and edit it again from the howto
[12:33] <c0nv1ct> smile: start with a nice clean slate, after getting nvidia drivers installed right
[12:34] <c0nv1ct> corveum: what error did you get running smbmount?
[12:34] <corveum> Has anyone installed alternate keyboard drivers on Kubuntu? The Vietnamese driver that comes with it doesn't work
[12:35] <corveum> c0nv1ct: 6454: session setup failed
[12:35] <c0nv1ct> man, i havent setup samba in a long time
[12:36] <firemonkeyballz> hrm... it is installed
[12:36] <firemonkeyballz> ok
[12:36] <c0nv1ct> corveum: did you add the smb user accounts to linux?
[12:37] <clau85> automount doesn't work anymore in kubuntu breezy... usb devices aren't automatically mounted anymore...
[12:37] <corveum> c0nv1ct: oh good gravy... now how do I do that?
[12:37] <smile> c0nv1ct: do u have another HOWTO to modify gdm.conf-custom ?? maybe mine is useless
[12:37] <c0nv1ct> corveum: from what i remember, that was an important and difficult step
[12:37] <warewolf_> firemonkeyballz: driver installed?
[12:37] <c0nv1ct> smile: everything i've found is for edgy :(
[12:39] <jacopoexchange> can anyone tell me how to add a program to startup?
[12:40] <TheGateKeeper> corveum: you might find this helpfull http://www.math.temple.edu/computing/samba.html
[12:40] <firemonkeyballz> getting there
[12:40] <c0nv1ct> corveum: have you looked at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[12:42] <__-osh-__> What's a good tool for keeping my laptop and desktop in sync? Sometimes I change files on my laptop and want those changes merged into the desktop homedir, sometime I change things on the desktop and want it merged to the laptop when I reconnect it. Any ideas? GUI-tools preferred but not a requirement.
[12:42] <firemonkeyballz> umm how do I run ark as root?
[12:42] <jake> hi guys, how do you install tar.gzip files?
[12:42] <c0nv1ct> jake: you extract them first
[12:43] <jake> and then? what command do i need? im new to linux
[12:43] <heinkel_111> __-osh-__: are you looking for something with a gUI or will a simple but killer commandline interface do?
[12:43] <c0nv1ct> jake: that depends, if its source code, you have to compile it
[12:43] <Jucato> jake: what are you trying to install?
[12:43] <heinkel_111> __-osh-__:  rsync is my fav...
[12:44] <c0nv1ct> jake: yes, knowing exactly what you are trying to do will help us help you
[12:44] <jake> fluxbox, is it compatible with kubuntu?
[12:44] <c0nv1ct> jake: i've heard of people running it in ubuntu, so i'd assume so
[12:44] <Jucato> jake: you don't need to compile fluxbox. it's in the repositories
[12:44] <jake> oh really?
[12:45] <firemonkeyballz> hrm
[12:45] <`Z`> poy (amsg)
[12:45] <Jucato> !info fluxbox | jake
[12:45] <ubotu> jake: fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+1.0rc2-1 (edgy), package size 899 kB, installed size 2888 kB
[12:45] <c0nv1ct> jake: always check your package manager before trying to install things using source code
[12:45] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: I've tried rsync and it's ok. I was hoping for a gui-tool, something akin to what's availible for windows. Rsync has a way of eating an enormous amount of memory when you sync a lot of files.
[12:46] <bentob0x> what's that console app for KDE that is permanently on the desktop?
[12:46] <Jucato> !yakuakde | bentob0x
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yakuakde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <Jucato> !yakuake | bentob0x
[12:46] <heinkel_111> __-osh-__: what windows tool do you use then?
[12:46] <ubotu> bentob0x: yakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB
[12:46] <jake> ok thanx, anyway anybody can give me idea to install tar.gzip files? i mean step by step
[12:46] <Jucato> sorry for the typo...
[12:46] <bentob0x> lovely thx
[12:47] <Jucato> jake: it really depends on what you're trying to install.. not everything that comes in .tar.gz and can be installed are compiled in the same way
[12:47] <Jucato> !compile | jake
[12:47] <ubotu> jake: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:47] <jake> ok thanx
[12:48] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: It's called "the portfolio" in my localized copy of windows. Dunno the english name for it.  A tool where you specify which directories that should be synced on both machines and when it detects diffs it'll move files over and overwrite the older copy (if unchanged) or ask you to merge them (if both are changed).
[12:48] <jake> anybody here using fluxbox?
[12:49] <c0nv1ct> jake: i have, but am not currently
[12:50] <firemonkeyballz> lol never use the switch user mode
[12:50] <firemonkeyballz> if there's only one account
[12:50] <jake> so what can you say about fluxbox?
[12:50] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[12:50] <firemonkeyballz> owch
[12:51] <firemonkeyballz> well atleast I got to see my new login screen
[12:51] <firemonkeyballz> snicker
[12:51] <c0nv1ct> jake: its very lightweight :)
[12:51] <c0nv1ct> jake: i wouldnt really consider it for beginners though
[12:51] <heinkel_111> __-osh-__: ok - but rsync is faster than that, more like robocopy for windows. I am sorry cannot help you more :)
[12:52] <c0nv1ct> jake: its not so "microsoft-like" as with gnome and kde
[12:52] <bentob0x> that yakuake is classic
[12:52] <bentob0x> just been setting it up 'a la quake'
[12:52] <c0nv1ct> jake: but then again, its been a while since i ran it, so things may have changed
[12:53] <jake> c0nv1ct: ive installed it, how do i run it?
[12:53] <TheGateKeeper> jake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluxbox
[12:53] <c0nv1ct> jake: at login, click Sessions, and select it from the list
[12:54] <mdtyke> Has anyone got an idea as to my problem? :)
[12:56] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: what is the problem?
[12:56] <mdtyke> The first one is in regards to my network.  I'm connecting via a WLAN... but everytime I connect, it changes my DNS servers to the same as my default gateway.  Now, normally that's fine.. my net will work in Konqueror, and Skype connects.. but opera, firefox, apt etc don't work
[12:56] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: I found out the finer points of rsync when I wrote a script to sync home-dirs between two filesystems and let it loose. Damn near took one of the servers down since I didn't know that it built a file-list and stored that in memory. With "a lot" of files and running on a few dirs, it caused havoc on our servers. But I learned something that day. :-)
[12:56] <mdtyke> the only resolution I have is to manually go and change my DNS servers to that of my ISPs.. which I can do, but I'm doing it every 10mins :S
[12:56] <firemonkeyballz> arg
[12:57] <firemonkeyballz> when ever root access times out in kde
[12:57] <firemonkeyballz> I cant open files
[12:57] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: are you able to do 'nslookup yahoo.com' in the console and get an IP?
[12:57] <firemonkeyballz> that were given root permission
[12:57] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: Funny thing is that there's a lot of sync-software for windows, damn near nothing for linux. And certainly nothing with a good gui.
[12:57] <firemonkeyballz> @#!#$ ark
[12:57] <mdtyke> Konsole works fine too, sorry
[12:58] <mdtyke> Its just some applications.. mainly my browsers, kopete etc
[12:58] <__-osh-__> heinkel_111: Found something called "unison" which appears to be nice, however it's an abandoned project now. And the gui isn't all that good.
[12:58] <mdtyke> It seems as if some can cope with forwarding the DNS requests to my router, and others cant
[12:58] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: but are you able to do nslookups?
[12:58] <firemonkeyballz> well these are 32 bit drivers
[12:58] <firemonkeyballz> wolf
[12:58] <firemonkeyballz> I cant use these
[12:58] <mdtyke> I can, yes c0nv1ct
[12:58] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: thats weird, then firefox should work just fine
[12:58] <neoo> hi
[12:59] <heinkel_111> __-osh-__: i think the historical reason for this is poor laptop support on linux, hence fewer laptops on linux and less need for syncing. Now it is rather different :)
[12:59] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: so you are able to browse the web in konqueror, but not in firefox?
[12:59] <mdtyke> Yep
[12:59] <mdtyke> Not Opera either
[12:59] <c0nv1ct> wow, thats strange
[12:59] <mdtyke> and Skype connects.. but that thing always connects; You'd swear it doesn't even need the internet to connect lol
[12:59] <c0nv1ct> mdtyke: so you just get a 404 error for everything u try in firefox?