[09:40] <homebrewcider> hi there, I have a server running Ubuntu Server, I have installed mythbuntu backend on it. I need a desktop environment right? or can I get by without it?
[12:58] <rileyp> does irsend work in natty
[13:17] <rileyp> i have a mceusb receiver transmitter and the receiver works fine but I cannot get the transmitter to work using irsend
[15:56] <oliver_> I'd like to install mythtv from sources (on mythbuntu) so that that I can make a minor modification to mythvideo.  I cloned the sources from the git repository, './configure; make; sudo make install'ed the mythtv bits and then repeated the same for they mythplugins bits.  All went swimmingly until I tried to fire up mythbackend.  It rudely protested with a bunch of Application / library version conflicts and refused to start.  Is there
[15:56] <oliver_>  anyone who can advise me on where I have gone wrong?
[15:57] <oliver_> I should probably mention that I'm running Mythbuntu 11.04 and wanting to install MythTV Fixes 0.24.
[15:58] <oliver_> As I say, I only want to do all of this to make a tiny change to mythvideo to appease my other half, so if there is an easier way, please do let me know it. :)
[17:18] <logicwrath> !help
[17:18] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[17:23] <logicwrath> why is mceusb not in the mythbuntu control center lirc setup?
[17:24] <logicwrath> my mce remote mostly works without installing lirc but there are buttons like back and OK that don't work
[17:39] <tgm4883> logicwrath, it should be
[17:39] <tgm4883> logicwrath, I don't have access to my mythtv systems right now, but it should be listed there
[18:07] <logicwrath> im using mythbuntu 11.04
[18:07] <logicwrath> i saw someone else complaining about not finding it too
[18:07] <logicwrath> when i was google searching
[18:10] <tgm4883> logicwrath, it should be there
[18:10] <tgm4883> it's called Windows  media center remote
[18:10] <tgm4883> or something like that
[18:10] <logicwrath> im sorry but its not there
[18:10] <logicwrath> im going to try fresh install of mythbuntu 10
[18:11] <tgm4883> sec, let me install MCC
[18:16] <tgm4883> logicwrath, it's there on my 11.04 netbook
[18:16] <tgm4883> Windows Media Center Tranceiver/Remotes (all)
[18:16] <tgm4883> almost at the bottom
[18:16] <logicwrath> ill check again
[18:16] <logicwrath> 1 sec
[18:18] <logicwrath> wow, thanks not sure why i couldnt figure that out on my own
[18:19] <tgm4883> np
[18:34] <logicwrath> if i type irw from ssh should i be able to see codes being received from my remote?
[18:34] <logicwrath> as a sort of test
[23:50] <Shadow__X> hey tgm4883 i keep getting failed to fetch ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu/dists/lucid/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz what gives?


[05:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: budgie-desktop (zesty-proposed/universe) [10.2.9-3ubuntu4 => 10.2.9-3ubuntu4.1] (no packageset)
[09:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lomoco (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-2 => 1.0.0-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[09:34] <LocutusOfBorg> hello, do you think we will ever have auto transition trackers like debian has? :)
[09:34] <LocutusOfBorg> I still don't like too much how britney talks to me :p
[09:37] <LocutusOfBorg> e.g. libpfm4 will probably migrate in a few hours, but meh, how can we discover transitions from excuses page?
[10:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted boinc-app-eah-brp [amd64] (artful-proposed) [0.20170426+dfsg-2]
[10:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted boinc-app-eah-brp [i386] (artful-proposed) [0.20170426+dfsg-2]
[10:01] <rbasak> He's gone, but FTR, https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted boinc-app-eah-brp [arm64] (artful-proposed) [0.20170426+dfsg-2]
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted boinc-app-eah-brp [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [0.20170426+dfsg-2]
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclib [amd64] (artful-proposed) [20170330-1]
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclib [armhf] (artful-proposed) [20170330-1]
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclib [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [20170330-1]
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libarchive-cpio-perl [amd64] (artful-proposed) [0.10-1]
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted node-memory-fs [amd64] (artful-proposed) [0.4.1-1]
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted node-webpack-sources [amd64] (artful-proposed) [0.2.3-1]
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted boinc-app-eah-brp [armhf] (artful-proposed) [0.20170426+dfsg-2]
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclib [arm64] (artful-proposed) [20170330-1]
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclib [s390x] (artful-proposed) [20170330-1]
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted node-pbkdf2 [amd64] (artful-proposed) [3.0.9-1]
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted boinc-app-eah-brp [s390x] (artful-proposed) [0.20170426+dfsg-2]
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted node-jsprim [amd64] (artful-proposed) [1.4.0-1]
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclib [i386] (artful-proposed) [20170330-1]
[10:02] <cjwatson> rbasak: auto trackers are a layer on top of that.
[10:02] <cjwatson> I don't know exactly how they work, but Debian has some logic to automatically create things.
[10:02]  * apw sees some spaggetti perl in his mind ...
[10:03] <cjwatson> Probably
[10:05] <rbasak> Oh, I see. Thanks.
[10:16] <fossfreedom> all - how often does the germinate output refresh? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu-budgie.artful/all says gnome-documents is in our seed - but it isnt - I removed it a couple of days ago!
[10:17] <cjwatson> Normally every four hours
[10:17] <cjwatson> ubuntu-archive@snakefruit:~/public_html/germinate-output/ubuntu-budgie.artful$ ls -l all
[10:17] <cjwatson> -rw-rw-r-- 1 ubuntu-archive ubuntu-archive 1793332 May  8 06:37 all
[10:18] <fossfreedom> k - thanks. scratching my head then what is going on.
[10:19] <xnox> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/auto-transition.git/ i think it is python. But I do not believe it was adjusted to work with overlay archives like experimental->unstable, or ubuntu's -proposed -> release.
[10:19] <cjwatson> the seed mirror seems to be out of date
[10:26] <cjwatson> fossfreedom: stuck lock; fixed now.  germinate-output should update in a few hours.  (I misspoke BTW - it's every six hours, not every four hours)
[10:26] <fossfreedom> thanks very much.
[11:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pynac [ppc64el] (artful-proposed/universe) [0.7.5-2] (no packageset)
[11:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pynac [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [0.7.5-2] (no packageset)
[11:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pynac [s390x] (artful-proposed/universe) [0.7.5-2] (no packageset)
[11:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pynac [i386] (artful-proposed/universe) [0.7.5-2] (no packageset)
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pynac [arm64] (artful-proposed/universe) [0.7.5-2] (no packageset)
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pynac [armhf] (artful-proposed/universe) [0.7.5-2] (no packageset)
[11:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pynac [arm64] (artful-proposed) [0.7.5-2]
[11:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pynac [armhf] (artful-proposed) [0.7.5-2]
[11:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pynac [amd64] (artful-proposed) [0.7.5-2]
[11:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pynac [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [0.7.5-2]
[11:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pynac [i386] (artful-proposed) [0.7.5-2]
[11:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pynac [s390x] (artful-proposed) [0.7.5-2]
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nagios-nrpe (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.15-1ubuntu2 => 2.15-1ubuntu3] (ubuntu-server)
[14:12] <slashd> For today's SRU vanguards (infinity, sil2100 or anyone available) : Good morning, could you (if possible) please prioritize theses 2 UA bugs Openssl (LP: #1674399) for Xenial and nagios-nrpe for Xenial (LP: #1555258) waiting in the upload queue ? That would be highly appreciated. The other affected releases for theses 2 bugs can be "SRU verified" later at your convenience. Thanks in advance !
[14:13] <sil2100> slashd: hey! Let me take a look in a moment
[14:13] <slashd> sil2100, thanks for your quick answer
[14:14] <slashd> sil2100, FYI, bdmurray started the verification for some releases last week.
[14:14] <slashd> but I don't think he started Xenial yet
[14:16] <sil2100> slashd: hm, do you know why he only handled single uploads for those?
[14:16] <sil2100> Were those the only ones available in the queues then?
[14:17] <slashd> sil2100, Xenial upload where already there in the queue for both bugs, yes. As of why he didn't look at the X upload that I don't know, if you prefer we can wait to talk to him.
[14:18] <sil2100> bdmurray: hey! Would you prefer to review the openssl and nagios-nrpe uploads since you already handled single series of those? Or should I pick them up instead?
[14:18] <sil2100> I'll start looking at them but wait with pressing any buttons until I get some context from bdmurray
[14:18] <slashd> sil2100, sound good to me, thanks for looking at it, much appreciated
[14:18] <sil2100> yw!
[14:20] <bdmurray> sil2100: I think it was an oversight on my part, although they Y fix for the nagios-nrpe bug was just uploaded.
[14:22] <slashd> Yep the nagios-nrpe "Y" was uploaded this morning. X is really the important bit for UA right now, the other could be verified at your convenience.
[14:22] <bdmurray> Having the fixed version in X and not in Y isn't really great for people upgrading from X to Y - granted that's not many people now.
[14:26] <slashd> bdmurray, make total sense, if you guys prefer doing the verification on Y first and then X for upgrade reason it's totally fine, I don't want to skip any of your SRU procedure in place. I basically wanted to point out that this 2 bugs are a priorities for STS today.
[14:27] <bdmurray> slashd: accepting them both into the archive at the same time is fine, our concern is Y (or any affected release) being neglected.
[14:28] <slashd> bdmurray, yep make total sense.
[14:34] <slashd> bdmurray, sil2100 so to recap "nagios-nrpe" for Y was missing and I have uploaded it this morning meaning that in the upload queue we have X & Y waiting and openssl was uploaded for all affected release in the same time a couple of days ago, and Y is already in -proposed meaning X & Z is in the upload queue.
[14:35] <sil2100> bdmurray: you want to handle this as you already did a review, or should I? ^
[14:38] <ahasenack> hi, can someone please accept my zesty nomination for bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1677329 ? Affected versions are summarized in comment #5
[14:39] <bdmurray> sil2100: I have no preference - if you are already looking at one carry on, otherwise I'll do it since I missed it earlier.
[14:40] <rbasak> ahasenack: done, thanks
[14:40] <ahasenack> rbasak: cheers
[15:01] <sil2100> bdmurray: sorry, got dropped - did you get my question about handling those 2 SRUs? Is that on your plate now?
[15:01] <bdmurray> sil2100: I have no preference - if you are already looking at one carry on, otherwise I'll do it since I missed it earlier.
[15:02] <sil2100> I'll take care of it then since today I'm doing some SRU work anyway
[15:03] <bdmurray> sil2100: thanks!
[15:04] <slashd> sil2100, tks
[15:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openssl [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.0.2g-1ubuntu11.1]
[15:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openssl [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.0.2g-1ubuntu4.7]
[15:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nagios-nrpe [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.15-1ubuntu3]
[16:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nagios-nrpe [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.15-1ubuntu1.1]
[16:31] <slashd> thanks sil2100 bdmurray for the quick verification, much appreciated
[16:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-cloud-sdk (zesty-proposed/partner) [140.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 154.0.0-0ubuntu1~17.04.0] (no packageset)
[16:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-cloud-sdk (xenial-proposed/partner) [140.0.0-0ubuntu1~16.04.1 => 154.0.0-0ubuntu1~16.04.0] (no packageset)
[16:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-cloud-sdk (yakkety-proposed/partner) [140.0.0-0ubuntu1~16.10 => 154.0.0-0ubuntu1~16.10.0] (no packageset)
[18:18] <slashd> rbasak, hi do you have an idea when you would be able to look back at my isc-dhclient debdiff(s) ? Once I have your final "Go", I can upload the debdiff(s) myself  ==> LP: #1176046
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-desktop3 (zesty-proposed/main) [3.24.1-0ubuntu1 => 3.24.2-0ubuntu0.1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[18:51] <mapreri> there is a lomoco_1.0.0-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_source.changes in zesty's unapproved.  I realized I forgot `update-maintainer`, if you reject it I'll run that and upload again.
[18:54] <slangasek> sil2100: still around?
[18:54] <slangasek> mapreri: done
[18:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected lomoco [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.0.0-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[18:55] <mapreri> slangasek: ta.
[18:57] <jbicha> slangasek: you said you might push the gnome-software SRU into -updates today, so I'm just reminding you now :)
[18:58] <mapreri> ahem
[18:58] <slangasek> jbicha: yes, thanks for the reminder, willcooke hadn't pestered me yet :)  releasing now
[18:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lomoco (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-2 => 1.0.0-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[18:59] <mapreri> slangasek: I'm stupid, now I read that again I see I used *16*.04 while targetting zesty -.-'  could you right again? :)
[18:59] <slangasek> mapreri: zot
[18:59] <slangasek> (rejected)
[19:00] <mapreri> slangasek: could you expand zot? :)
[19:00] <slangasek> mapreri: that's the sound of it being nuked from the queue from above
[19:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected lomoco [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.0.0-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[19:00] <mapreri> :D
[19:00] <slangasek> infinity: you're my last hope of not doing bad self-accepty things on my SRUs
[19:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lomoco (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-2 => 1.0.0-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[19:03] <willcooke> thanks jbicha slangasek
[19:03] <mapreri> this time should be fine :3
[19:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.7.9-113-g513e99e0-0ubuntu1~16.04.1]
[19:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted horizon [source] (xenial-proposed) [2:9.1.2-0ubuntu1]
[19:10] <infinity> slangasek: Which SRU are you threatening to self-accept?
[19:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted unattended-upgrades [source] (trusty-proposed) [0.82.1ubuntu2.5]
[19:18] <slangasek> infinity: unattended-upgrades !precise; software-properties xenial
[19:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted unattended-upgrades [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.90ubuntu0.6]
[19:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted unattended-upgrades [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.92ubuntu1.5]
[19:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted unattended-upgrades [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.93.1ubuntu2.2]
[19:30] <infinity> slangasek: Why did you do software-properties through the security PPA for yakkety, but via proposed for xenial?
[19:30] <infinity> And more hilariously, despite the yakkety one being done via security, it wasn't *released* to yakkety-security?
[19:31] <jbicha> slangasek: are you going to push gnome-software for xenial & yakkety today too?
[19:33] <infinity> slangasek: I can solve the latter with a copy.  The former, I can sponsor the upload via security-proposed if you want it to go the same way as yakkety?
[19:34] <infinity> slangasek: Of course, if the intent was to release to security, you also missed the copy-and-promote of libgtk2-perl in *-security.
[19:34]  * infinity goes to get a hamburger while he waits on responses.
[19:34] <slangasek> infinity: we originally thought software-properties would be published to -security, then you corrected us, so we published it only to -proposed
[19:35] <slangasek> slash -updates
[19:35] <infinity> slangasek: I corrected you?  Kay.  Memory fading.  I don't recall that particular conversation.
[19:36] <slangasek> infinity: wrt new packages not being installed from anywhere but -security
[19:36] <infinity> slangasek: Oh, right.
[19:36] <slangasek> so none of this needs to go to -sec
[19:36] <infinity> slangasek: Yeah, I was looking for other reasons this should be in security.  Looks like the shim-signed goo is only in updates, so that wouldn't be an argument.
[19:37] <slangasek> jbicha: AIUI the gnome-software was in zesty for the full 7 days, so got its bake time; then got reset with the smaller SRU; so has had 10 days total bake time.  xenial and yakkety show as only having been uploaded on Friday. Are we comfortable that these are also baked?
[19:38] <slangasek> jbicha: also, I can't see a reason for the other gnome-software SRUs to queue jump a bunch of other stuff that needs releasing
[19:39] <infinity> slangasek: Although, update-secureboot-policy shipped with yakkety (I think?), which might make an argument for why even security-only users should get this change for >= yakkety.
[19:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted software-properties [source] (xenial-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>]
[19:41]  * slangasek handwaves
[19:41] <infinity> slangasek: So, that doesn't affect xenial, but it might be an argument for yakkety having been done correctly in the first place. :P
[19:41]  * infinity shrugs.
[19:42] <slangasek> infinity: I don't mind if it goes to -security, but I haven't heard any complaints
[19:42] <infinity> slangasek: I suppose the more interesting question is if we intend to push newer shim/shim-signed to security ever.
[19:42] <infinity> slangasek: If so, we need to be pretty careful to find all the other moving parts.
[19:43] <jbicha> slangasek: the critical bug is LP: #1672424 but that's been broken for several months
[19:43] <jbicha> zesty was the most important because most people first try to install software just after installing Ubuntu
[19:44]  * infinity really goes for that burger now.
[20:31] <sil2100> slangasek: aroundish
[20:31] <sil2100> slangasek: what's up?
[20:31] <slangasek> sil2100: infinity took care of them now, thanks
[20:31] <slangasek> sil2100: needed some reviews of SRUs I uploaded
[20:33] <sil2100> slangasek: ah, ok, good! Sorry I was AFK, we had to do some grocery shopping before the shop was closing
[20:48] <sil2100> slangasek: while we're at the topic of SRUs, did you have a moment to take a look at the gce-c-i-p SRUs in the queues? The sooner those go to -proposed the better I suppose
[20:51] <slangasek> sil2100: I had not, sorry - cloud-init ate my attention for the rest of Friday.  probably better if infinity can look at them now, as I'm trying to turn last week's sprint into notes for the team
[20:52] <sil2100> infinity, bdmurray: if anyone of you could take a look at the gce-compute-image-packages SRUs - they're straight rude backports from artful
[20:53] <infinity> sil2100: Yeah, I'll have a gander in a bit.
[20:53] <sil2100> The packages have an MRE so the bug is also a bit hm, vague
[20:53] <sil2100> Thanks! In case you find anything you don't like in those, just give me a poke and I'll fix it up
[20:54] <infinity> sil2100: There's a lot in those packages I don't like.  I suspect none of that will relate to the SRU. :P
[21:32]  * rbasak tries to avoid touching packages like that :-/
[22:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-maps (zesty-proposed/universe) [3.24.0-0ubuntu1 => 3.24.2-0ubuntu0.1] (desktop-extra, ubuntugnome)
[22:38] <infinity> rbasak: I try to avoid it too, but then people annoy me until I do it anyway.
[22:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gce-compute-image-packages [source] (trusty-proposed) [20170426-0ubuntu1~14.04.0]
[22:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gce-compute-image-packages [source] (xenial-proposed) [20170426-0ubuntu1~16.04.0]
[22:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gce-compute-image-packages [source] (yakkety-proposed) [20170426-0ubuntu1~16.10.0]
[22:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gce-compute-image-packages [source] (zesty-proposed) [20170426-0ubuntu1~17.04.0]


[01:20] <shegman> how can i adjust mouse sensivity and disable acceleration?
[01:38] <FloatingGoat> is there an xubuntu off topic?
[01:38] <q_a_z_steve> hey so really fast, I had XP installed, dual booted Xubuntu 10.4 and then reformatted the other partition, now all I get is grub help> with an invalid filesystem. I figured when grub was on the other partition that I wouldn't have this issue at all, especially since the default was XP :(
[01:50] <q_a_z_steve> How do I successfully go back to single booting, anyone have any ideas?
[02:08] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, Do you have a Windows XP CDROM?
[02:08] <FloatingGoat> hey is there a way to change the xubuntu window borders?
[02:09] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, If you do, you can select the recovery prompt and execute the following:
[02:09] <cody-somerville> bootcfg /rebuild
[02:09] <cody-somerville> fixboot
[02:09] <cody-somerville> fixmbr
[02:10] <cody-somerville> FloatingGoat, Applications > Settings > Xfce4 Settings Manager
[02:10] <FloatingGoat> when i clicked ambiance the blue window border stayed the same
[02:11] <q_a_z_steve> all three, wow that's more than I just got in ##windows
[02:11] <q_a_z_steve> I'm looking.
[02:11] <cody-somerville> FloatingGoat, Can you share screenshots of before and after so I can see what exactly you're talking about? Changing the windows manager theme for me changes the border color.
[02:11] <FloatingGoat> oh
[02:11] <FloatingGoat> well im not on xubuntu right now i wish though
[02:12] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, If not, you can boot into the Xubuntu live cd and I can tell you how to repair grub so you can boot back into Windows and reinstall the Windows MBR from there.
[02:16] <q_a_z_steve> one way or the other looks like I've got issues burning either CD :@
[02:22] <mucus> hello
[02:22] <mucus> i am new to linux, ubuntu, and xfce
[02:57] <q_a_z_steve> cody-somerville what "Load Identifier" do I enter, is this something that really matters?
[02:58] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, No. Its a custom description for an operating system.
[02:58] <q_a_z_steve> So if I just enter "XP" it's not going to hurt anything?
[02:59] <cody-somerville> Nope
[02:59] <q_a_z_steve> more questions, OS Load Options, this one I would love to mess with. I can throw things like /no-splash here if I really wanted right?
[02:59] <cody-somerville> Just put in /fastdetect
[03:00] <q_a_z_steve> sounds gret
[03:00] <q_a_z_steve> s/gret/great
[03:01] <q_a_z_steve> okay, all three of those are done, reboot now?
[03:01] <cody-somerville> Yup.
[03:03] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, For what its worth, I'm sorry to hear Xubuntu didn't work out for you. If you ever decide to give it another try, please feel free to visit again if you need any help.
[03:03] <q_a_z_steve> was telling someone else, this system actually has a reset and sleep button, it's that old. The other thing it has on the keyboard is an ad which is in the form of a double-stuck ANY key!
[03:04] <q_a_z_steve> Xubuntu is fantastic for me, this user on the other hand wouldn't know what to do, and the GSM card didn't connect, so Windows is just easier.
[03:04] <cody-somerville> ah, ok.
[03:06] <q_a_z_steve> Thanks muchly! It's working on something... I saw the splash so I bet I'm good.
[03:14] <q_a_z_steve> cody-somerville ok, so now I have the boot load list that I used to deal with back in 02, where I have XP (my custom) and Microsoft Windows XP on a separate line. Sad tale because I'm not actually sure it is going to boot.
[03:15] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, How many total installations did it say it found when you ran bootcfg /rebuild ?
[03:15] <q_a_z_steve> 1
[03:16] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, try either or. Once you're booted you can go Start > Control Panel > Performance and Maintenance > System
[03:16] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, On the Advanced tab click Startup and Recovery and then click Settings.
[03:16] <q_a_z_steve> tin can light blips ever so slightly nah, I don't think this time is working anyway
[03:16] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, Under System Start, click Edit. Make sure your changes and click ok
[03:17] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, Click Start, Run, and then type msconfig to start the System Configuration Utility. Click the Boot.ini tab.
[03:21] <q_a_z_steve> tried the other, splash doesn't even stay on long enough to make me think it's intentional. lights going a lot more than last time, but not necessarily the most of all. Bloody thing I've got to go. Where can I get an exorcism performed in a hurry?
[03:22] <q_a_z_steve> More recovery needed?
[03:23] <q_a_z_steve> Maybe I'm just in a hurry, the OS could really be taking this long... <450 MHz 320 MB RAM
[03:24] <q_a_z_steve> I don't want to go to safe mode, right, because I still won't know if it'll boot, right?
[03:25] <q_a_z_steve> *in normal mode that is.
[03:25] <mucus> kay, so i'm trying to find the launcher... where might that be?
[03:25] <mucus> i'm pretty much still using the basic xubuntu layout
[03:32] <mucus> a launcher that looks for installed programs...that's what i'm trying to find
[03:47] <q_a_z_steve> cody-somerville it jumps right into safe-mode...
[03:47] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, Probably because the last boot was unsuccessful.
[03:48] <q_a_z_steve> I mean when I choose the option.
[03:49] <q_a_z_steve> cody-somerville what else should I do to this thing while I've got it? Should I change any more boot flags?
[03:49] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, Have you tried doing a full boot into safe mode and then a full, normal shut down?
[03:50] <q_a_z_steve> will try now.
[03:50] <q_a_z_steve> cold boot?
[03:53] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, I don't think your problem is with the MBR anymore since you're back to using the windows bootloader. The folks in #windows will probably be more help now then me.
[03:53] <q_a_z_steve> kk, thanks sorry for all the off-topic
[03:55] <cody-somerville> No problem. Good luck.
[04:17] <mucus> is there a way to get workspaces to transition to one another?
[04:18] <mucus> like transition effects on an android . . .
[07:09] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: how to edit menus in xfce
[07:14] <thauriswulfa> !patience
[07:32] <TheSheep> thauriswulfa: they are built from the files in /usr/share/applications, you can copy them to ~/.local/share/applications and customize
[07:34] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: one more question is there any software similar to system monitor in ubuntu for xubuntu which also monitor network
[07:37] <TheSheep> thauriswulfa: there is bmon and a couple of similar tools, but they are for console
[07:38] <thauriswulfa> TheSheep: thanx alot thesheep
[08:16] <whatevernick> heyy. is there a wine help channel that is not invite-only?
[08:24] <Sysi> #winehq is?
[08:24] <Sysi> is invite only?
[08:25] <Sysi> !wine
[08:26] <psycho_oreos> winehq isn't invite only
[08:29] <Sysi> if i have two-finger emulation made with xinput, does tapping with two fingers work as secondary click in xubuntu?
[11:27] <q_a_z_steve1> !hi | q_a_z_steve1
[21:39] <owen> I just installed tweet deck (AIR app) how can I get it to start on login?
[21:41] <TheSheep> owen: how do you normally make it start?
[21:42] <owen> In the main system menu
[21:43] <lighta> having an issue with eclipse, it's like freezing and don't open, any idea what can I do ?
[21:43] <TheSheep> owen: ok, there is a file in /usr/share/applications
[21:43] <TheSheep> lighta: I think there is an #eclipse channel
[21:43] <TheSheep> lighta: they may know in there better
[21:43] <lighta> ouki thx TheSheep
[21:44] <owen> TheSheep: Cool thanks, I see it now
[21:44] <TheSheep> owen: open it in a text editor and see what the command is
[21:44] <TheSheep> owen: then use that command in 'autostarted applications' in 'sessions and startup'
[21:47] <owen> TheSheep: thanks I found it and the command that worked fine
[22:24] <lighta> !version
[22:30] <lighta> !ppa
[22:31] <lighta> dam anyone have a good ppa for eclipse ?
[22:31] <lighta> only thing I found are outdated
[22:33] <charlie-tca> Isn't eclipse one of the apps that comes ready for use? (as a .deb )
[22:42] <lighta> yeah but official depot have 2 version late :(