[10:55] <_ShoGo_> Anyone can help me please?
[10:55] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer, you are booting the live cd? and does firefox not work - the web browser, that is?
[10:55] <ubuntu_> hello :)
[10:56] <kronus-> ok, locales and localeconf are installed
[10:56] <finalplayer> indeed
[10:56] <kronus-> run both?
[10:56] <bimberi> kronus-: my upgrade gave lots of locales related warnings, it didn't stop the process and once the locales package got reconfigured they stopped
[10:56] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_,  did you use sudo gedit? or su? you need to be root to edit that file
[10:56] <HappyFool> kronus-: well, try the perl thing again
[10:56] <barnes_> Can anyone help me connect to the internet on ubuntu? I'm having trouble.
[10:56] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh,  yes, im logued as root..
[10:56] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer, and what happens when you try to connect?
[10:56] <dash> barnes_: what's up
[10:57] <spola> i can just run dist-upgrade from a terminal on my desktop?
[10:57] <finalplayer> Firefox "tells" me it's not able to find the pae
[10:57] <finalplayer> *page
[10:57] <cjhcjhcjh> _shogo_ why are you editing it?
[10:57] <coolaj86> dash: `dpkg -S /path/to/file` is just the cheat I'm looking for
[10:57] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh, my guide to configure mi ati graphics accelerator asks me to do tha
[10:57] <barnes_> dash: I'm using a d-link dwl 520, andI can not get it to connect to the internet.
[10:57] <_ShoGo_> *that
[10:57] <kronus-> sseems to not complain anymore, thanks
[10:57] <HappyFool> spola: should work, assuming you've setup sources.list correctly
[10:57] <dash> coolaj86: only works if it's installed though :)
[10:57] <HappyFool> kronus-: ok. as i said, maybe install ubuntu-base to get things back to normal
[10:58] <HappyFool> kronus-: and check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:58] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_, ok...so you have a new graphics card?    Did it work before?
[10:58] <ompaul> spola, read this before you do and then all will be known http://tinyurl.com/dkllj
[10:58] <dash> barnes_: which kind of internet?
[10:58] <barnes_> cable wireless.
[10:58] <ompaul> !tell barnes_ about wireless
[10:58] <reter> how do i put this in sources http://tinyurl.com/bwomt
[10:58] <spola> yeah i was following that :-p
[10:58] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer, can you connect using a different operating system on the same computer?
[10:58] <ompaul> barnes_, read the message from ubotu
[10:58] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh, i have a new linux... i have been windows xp user until 6 days ago :))
[10:58] <HappyFool> cable wireless sounds like an oxymoron ;)
[10:59] <apokryphos> reter: you don't
[10:59] <finalplayer> cjhcjhcjh: yes
[10:59] <finalplayer> i have a DSL connection
[10:59] <_ShoGo_> The card works... The matter is that i can't play 3d games.. properly
[10:59] <sampan> pppoeconf?
[10:59] <finalplayer> but i have to establish it manually
[10:59] <trevis> can anyone help me with nvidia drivers?
[10:59] <bimberi> HappyFool: lol
[10:59] <finalplayer> it's not a permanent connection
[10:59] <barnes_> ompaul: I found mine on there, and there is a howtoo link for it, but that dosn't work at all.
[10:59] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer are you using that machine now, or a differnet one? ie do you have access to the booted livecd ubuntu as we speak?
[10:59] <evilmegaman> anyone have any idea how to get java-package? I can't find that package with apt-get or adept :-/
[10:59] <sedatc> I installed an deb package after I remove it and its repository I am getiing an error saying that need to install blablabla but couldn't fint archive fiel
[10:59] <trevis> i isntalled them like it says on the wiki page, but it tells me "no screens found"
[10:59] <dash> HappyFool: it's the cable that isn't a cable
[11:00] <finalplayer> cjhcjhcjh: no
[11:00] <dash> happyfool or a wireless connection to something connected to a cable
[11:00] <sampan> finalplayer, i had to run pppoeconf once to config my dsl connection
[11:00] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh, then, can u help me?
[11:00] <cjhcjhcjh> _Shogo_ so ubuntu only gives you a command prompt? You cannot get the graphic interface?
[11:00] <evilmegaman> oh where is the ubuntu extra repositories and multiverse for breezy?
[11:00] <finalplayer> where can i put my isp information and such?
[11:00] <bimberi> evilmegaman: it's in the multiverse repository
[11:00] <_ShoGo_> Umm, can i open a query with u cjhcjhcjh ?
[11:00] <kevogod> Will Dapper Drake have a PPTP/VPN client?
[11:00] <bimberi> ubotu tell evilmegaman about repositories
[11:00] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer, no to which q...are you on the same pc now?
[11:01] <pder> UBUNTU ARE NOT RUN ON COMPUTER
[11:01] <HappyFool> *sigh*
[11:01] <apokryphos> pder: drop the caps
[11:01] <trevis> where can i find the source for the 2.6.12-9 kernel?
[11:01] <_ShoGo_> evilmegaman, in the official page surely
[11:01] <evilmegaman> thanks bimberi :)
[11:01] <kevogod> And I mean, one with a GUI front-end that works well.
[11:01] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_, ask here...its likely someone else will solve the problem,,.,but maybe I can help to define it
[11:01] <bimberi> evilmegaman: yw :)
[11:01] <pder> !tell HappyFool about conduct
[11:01] <apokryphos> pder: please stop being annoying
[11:01] <_ShoGo_> Umm, it is hard to explain in english
[11:01] <_ShoGo_> Ok, i 'll try
[11:01] <HappyFool> trevis: linux-source-2.6.12 -- but you probably want linux-headers-386 (or -686, or something)
[11:01] <finalplayer> cjhcjhcjh: i have to switch to the OS, it's OR Ubuntu OR Windows (one pc available)
[11:01] <pder> !tell apokryphos about conduct
[11:02] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer, ok, gotcha...just trying to clarify what we can try here.
[11:02] <sedatc> I installed an deb package. After I remove it and its repository I am getiing an error saying that need to install blablabla but couldn't fint archive file.How can I handle this
[11:02] <_ShoGo_> My guide asks me to install some ... modules and then edit xorg.conf, to change and add some values
[11:02] <Juhaz> I guess he forgot to tell himself about conduct...
[11:02] <_ShoGo_> And it doesn't let me save them
[11:02] <trevis> HappyFool, im using it for the nvidia driver installation script, form nvidia's website
[11:03] <ompaul> barnes_, if I understood you you can't get to that web page?
[11:03] <HappyFool> trevis: you want linux-headers-386
[11:03] <ompaul> barnes_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DLinkDWL520E1
[11:03] <HappyFool> trevis: what does uname -r say?
[11:03] <dash> _ShoGo_: what are you editing it with?
[11:03] <_ShoGo_> gedit
[11:03] <dash> hm
[11:03] <_ShoGo_> hm?
[11:03] <cjhcjhcjh> finalplayer to be honest the bootable version will be hard to troubleshoot...if you install the "real" version...we migth have a chance.....folks here, correct me if I am wrong - can anyone troubleshoot the liveCD?
[11:03] <dash> i wonder if there's some charset problem?
[11:03] <evilmegaman> bimberi, on this page: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 , do I add the last repository?
[11:04] <astroman> l
[11:04] <JDigital_> Augh!  After I remove it and its repository I am getiing an error saying that need to install blablabla but couldn't fint archive file.How can I handle this
[11:04] <JDigital_> Now I have zero space
[11:04] <_ShoGo_> I'll paste the error wait
[11:04] <_ShoGo_> Unmatched element: citerefentry
[11:04] <_ShoGo_> Unmatched element: refentrytitle
[11:05] <_ShoGo_> The terminal says that..
[11:05] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_,  can you save the file under a different name?
[11:05] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh,  i will try wait
[11:05] <dash> sedatc: usually "apt-get update" will help with that
[11:05] <jrattner1> What is thiis /uisr/share/ubuntu artwork error and how do i fix it
[11:05] <JDigital_> I had 580MB free and even that was not enough
[11:05] <_ShoGo_> I can
[11:05] <_ShoGo_> I can't
[11:05] <Eppu> JDigital: try removing everyting from /var/cache/apt/archive
[11:05] <cjhcjhcjh> JDigital_, too much pr0n, too little time, eh?
[11:05] <Eppu> everything
[11:06] <HappyFool> _ShoGo_: what card is it?
[11:06] <barnes_> ompaul: I got that page, Ijust don't undersatand it, it dosn't owrk for me.
[11:06] <ompaul> JDigital_, paste the output of >fdisk -l< in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:06] <_ShoGo_> ati radeon 9600
[11:06] <JDigital_> You can never have too much pron
[11:06] <synd> What repos do I need for Limewire?
[11:06] <synd> It's not showing up
[11:06] <HappyFool> _ShoGo_: are you following the instructions on the wiki?
[11:06] <JDigital_> I can't paste. I'm using irssi via PuTTY because "ssh" never worked on my machine and xchat won't start any more
[11:06] <_ShoGo_> im following the instructions on ubuntu-es
[11:06] <_ShoGo_> :))
[11:07] <starscalling> >.>
[11:07] <WildBill> whiprush, ping! :)
[11:07] <HappyFool> !tell _ShoGo_ about ati
[11:07] <ompaul> barnes_, I do not have your hardware and so can't test it, but saying you don't understand it gives me a clue :) maybe you need help translating the instructions on that page - where do you start to have an issue
[11:07] <HappyFool> _ShoGo_: take a look at that page on the wiki
[11:07] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_, you cannot save the file as something else?
[11:07] <JDigital_> Hm, what's the trick you use to have the files download to another place?
[11:07] <JDigital_> I know it's a symlink but I forget where
[11:07] <cjhcjhcjh> Maybe _ShoGo_  has a simple permissions problem
[11:07] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh,  i can't. I have just tried to save it with a differente name
[11:07] <borgista> JDigital: which program?
[11:07] <_ShoGo_> No, im logued as root cjhcjhcjh
[11:07] <Eppu> JDigital: symlink /var/cache/apt/archives to another directory
[11:07] <JDigital_> Synaptic.
[11:08] <StarKruzr> whiprush is here?
[11:08] <JDigital_> How do I do that again?
[11:08] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_, can you save it to a different directory?
[11:08] <StarKruzr> as in Ars Technica whiprush?
[11:08] <bozel> how can i program with gcc?
[11:08] <borgista> JDigital, just use wget instead of Synaptic.
[11:08] <StarKruzr> holy shit.
[11:08] <JDigital_> Not a chance.
[11:08] <whiprush> StarKruzr: yeah
[11:08] <borgista> JDigital: use apt-get to only download the file.
[11:08] <whiprush> WildBill: yo
[11:08] <StarKruzr> hey man.  small Interweb.
[11:08] <barnes_> ompaul: I try to extract the host ap source, and it says it dosn't exisit. I use the same code they have in it.I have the hostap driver on a disk, but IU don't kknow if that will help.
[11:08] <synd> What repos do I need for Limewire?
[11:08] <synd> It's not showing up
[11:08] <whiprush> heh
[11:08] <apokryphos> synd: it's not in any repository; get it from their site.
[11:08] <borgista> synd: I think you need to install it yourself.
[11:09] <WildBill> hey whiprush -- got a sec to go PM?
[11:09] <JDigital_> How do I symlink /var/cache/apt/archives to anotehr directory
[11:09] <whiprush> yeah
[11:09] <synd> Bleh. It used to be.
[11:09] <StarKruzr> not that I've been on isis in a while, but stil
[11:09] <apokryphos> JDigital_: man ln
[11:09] <cjhcjhcjh> synd, I give up, tell me, what repos do you need for Limewire?
[11:09] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh,  wait..
[11:09] <StarKruzr> l
[11:09] <JDigital_> ok
[11:09] <synd> IIRC.
[11:09] <jrattner1> How can i reverse the ndiswrapper -m step
[11:09] <whiprush> StarKruzr: me either
[11:09] <borgista> ln -s /var/cache/apt/archives /other/directory
[11:09] <StarKruzr> which reminds me.
[11:09] <JDigital_> thanks
[11:09] <synd> cjhcjhcjh: Hush.
[11:09] <sedatc> dash : it doesnt help
[11:09] <Eppu> JDigital: remove the directory with rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives and then ln -s /some/other/place /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:09] <jrattner1> ubotu tell cjhcjhcjh  about limewire
[11:09] <JDigital_> Will it matter if /other/directory is FAT32?
[11:10] <apokryphos> JDigital_: nope
[11:10] <ompaul> barnes_, have you enabled universe in the repos?
[11:10] <apokryphos> JDigital_: as long as you can write to it and it's properly mounted
[11:10] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh,  I can't
[11:10] <poimen> hi
[11:10] <ompaul> barnes_, did you understand my question?
[11:10] <JDigital_> Wait, is /var/cache/apt/archives the first or second parameter?
[11:10] <reter> ok i downloaded the java files...how do i install them?
[11:10] <barnes_> ompaul: Do you mean changing to the root? I did that.
[11:10] <poimen> I have downloaded ubuntu 5.10 and also kubuntu 5.10
[11:10] <apokryphos> reter: dpkg -i somepackage.deb
[11:10] <ompaul> barnes_, no I did not mean that
[11:10] <apokryphos> poimen: congrats
[11:10] <ompaul> barnes_, this is going to take some time
[11:10] <poimen> I downloaded both and burned the isos upto speed in my 40x cd-rw and I get in both a error in the install
[11:11] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_,  ok, so you are editing a text file, and you can not save it anywhere? e.g. /home/username???
[11:11] <jrattner1> modprobe config already contains alias directive  How do i remove this alias
[11:11] <_ShoGo_> Yes, I have tried /home/shogo
[11:11] <HappyFool> does anyone know where i can find out more about the ubuntu 'server edition' breezy cd ?
[11:11] <barnes_> ompaul: Yeah, I noticed. This is my first time converting to linux.
[11:11] <poimen> should I burn it at a low speed?
[11:11] <Eppu> JDigital: the second
[11:11] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_,  which editor are you using?
[11:11] <_ShoGo_> gedit
[11:11] <JDigital_> ok
[11:11] <_ShoGo_> Sorry about my english ok ? I'm doing my best :))
[11:11] <ompaul> barnes_, msg me please and I will go through this one step at a time, this channel is too busy
[11:11] <penguin42> hmm - 3h35m to go - me thinks I'll leave this dist-upgrade to go overnight - its times like this when I wish I had a faster DSL
[11:12] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_,  no problem....
[11:12] <bozel> how can i use gcc?
[11:12] <cjhcjhcjh> ...anyone know why someone editing a text file in gedit would be unable to save it to their home dir?
[11:12] <bozel> is it installed in default?
[11:12] <penguin42> bozel: gcc myprog.c -o myprog
[11:12] <HappyFool> bozel: well, first install 'build-essential'
[11:12] <starscalling> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:12] <starscalling>  msttcorefonts
[11:12] <starscalling> enyc: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:12] <starscalling>  <<<--- er huh? what would that mean?
[11:12] <trevis> how can i make apt-get use a different server?
[11:12] <HappyFool> _ShoGo_: try with nano instead?
[11:12] <JDigital_> Uh oh. Synaptic doesn't seem to want to start.
[11:12] <borgista> trevis: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:13] <HappyFool> _ShoGo_: 'nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'  -- shouldn't be too hard to use
[11:13] <kevogod> cjhcjhcjh, Was this text file opened up from a resource outside of the home directory?
[11:13] <_ShoGo_> HappyFool, the web you gave me is for installing ati official drivers, isn't it?
[11:13] <cjhcjhcjh> kevogod, yes
[11:13] <_ShoGo_> I know nano, i'm gonna try
[11:13] <kevogod> cjhcjhcjh, Well, then the user most likely does not have writes to edit the file.
[11:13] <HappyFool> _ShoGo_: well, for installing ubuntu-packaged ati drivers
[11:13] <sam_> Is it possible to write to an NTFS disk?
[11:13] <JDigital_> "synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libcairo.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[11:13] <kevogod> cjhcjhcjh, *rights
[11:13] <cjhcjhcjh> kevogod, would that stop him saving it elsewhere?
[11:13] <_ShoGo_> I'm trying to install it with ubuntu drivers... ati drivers are bad..
[11:14] <JDigital_> Ugh, I should have known better than to listen to random goofs on IRC.
[11:14] <dash> sam_: not easily, or safely
[11:14] <Eppu> JDigital: try upgrading with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:14] <sam_> I think I'm gonna have to do a fresh breezy install... so it would be nice if I could temporarily store stuff on the NTFS partition.
[11:14] <dash> JDigital_: IRC knows everything
[11:14] <kevogod> cjhcjhcjh, It shouldn't.
[11:14] <HappyFool> JDigital_: you running breezy?
[11:14] <JDigital_> Yes, but it also knows incorrect things
[11:14] <dash> JDigital_: that's part of everything!
[11:14] <fluvvell> does anyone know when the full version of Breezy is due out?
[11:14] <JDigital_> I'm upgrading to it
[11:14] <HappyFool> JDigital_: cos my synaptic doesn't link to cairo (i'm still on hoary)
[11:14] <cjhcjhcjh> kevogod, which makes me think the problem is not what it appears to be
[11:14] <dash> fluvvell: yes!
[11:14] <JDigital_> fluvvell: yesterday
[11:14] <kevogod> cjhcjhcjh, As long as you are able to view the file, you should able to save it somewhere you have rights to.
[11:14] <fluvvell> woo hoo!
[11:15] <cjhcjhcjh> kevogod, sure
[11:15] <JDigital_> It crashed in the middle of upgrading because I ran out of disk space
[11:15] <dash> JDigital_: wow, that's special
[11:15] <JDigital_> Someone on IRC told me ~500MB would be ebough
[11:15] <JDigital_> enough
[11:15] <dash> enough for what?
[11:15] <JDigital_> temp disk space to upgrade
[11:15] <dash> JDigital_: from what?
[11:15] <JDigital_> I had 580MB free
[11:15] <JDigital_> Hoary -> Breezy
[11:15] <HappyFool> he did a dist-upgrade
[11:15] <JDigital_> with synaptic
[11:15] <HappyFool> well, the synaptic equivalent ('smart upgrade', i guess)
[11:15] <cjhcjhcjh> JDigital_, depends what apps you have...YMMV
[11:15] <penguin42> JDigital: I think it depends what you have installed, its downloading 651MB for me
[11:15] <dash> JDigital_: oh. yeah, i would doubt that
[11:16] <bozel> how can i search a file?
[11:16] <bozel> in the terminal?
[11:16] <JDigital_> It downloaded more than 500Mb but less than 580MB
[11:16] <HappyFool> bozel: use grep. grep 'a string to search for' filename.txt
[11:16] <cjhcjhcjh> bozel, cat <file> |fgrep something
[11:16] <JDigital_> but in unpacking and such it used up more space
[11:17] <penguin42> JDigital: Yeh - its a bit close to the wind, I'd say you want a good 100MB more than its going to download
[11:17] <cjhcjhcjh> bozel, or vi <file>    to edit, then forward-slash something
[11:17] <bozel> no
[11:17] <JDigital_> I didn't have much space to begin with
[11:17] <bozel> i want to find a file in a directory
[11:17] <steal> hi all
[11:17] <IcemanV9> JDigital_: try 'sudo apt-get autoclean' - hope it'll clean up some space
[11:17] <HappyFool> bozel: use 'locate'
[11:17] <cjhcjhcjh> bozel ls -lR |fgrep name
[11:17] <JDigital_> Unable to read /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[11:18] <_ShoGo_> well nano let me save it
[11:18] <jrattner1> my system locks up every time ii modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:18] <HappyFool> e.g., 'locate synaptic'
[11:18] <JDigital_> which may bec because I deleted that.
[11:18] <cjhcjhcjh> _ShoGo_,  cool, ok now?
[11:18] <ui> how do i copy some files to another  carpet ? with the terminal
[11:18] <ricardo> ola
[11:18] <_ShoGo_> HappyFool,  and cjhcjhcjh  thanks
[11:18] <_ShoGo_> cjhcjhcjh, I hope that
[11:18] <_ShoGo_> Im gonna finish the instructions and then see
[11:18] <_ShoGo_> Thanks all
[11:18] <guru54> anyone know how to fix this error? usb_set_configuration: Operation not permitted , Im using ubuntu 5.10 and gnomad2 2.8.0 ?
[11:18] <_ShoGo_> I g2g for dinner
[11:18] <_ShoGo_> See u soon :D:D
[11:18] <cjhcjhcjh> ui err...carpet?
[11:18] <ricardo> what I have to do to instal emacs on ubuntu??
[11:18] <JDigital_> Now synaptic won't open because it already deleted the old libcairo.so.2
[11:18] <HappyFool> ui: another carpet? you may need a warp/woof filesystem driver ... ;)
[11:18] <JDigital_> or so I assume
[11:18] <IcemanV9> guru54: sudo
[11:18] <Eppu> JDigital_: you might want to try series of partial upgrades. Pick one package install it with apt-get install package and remove everything from /var/cache/apt/archives/ after that
[11:18] <JDigital_> I didn't get a manual with htis
[11:19] <ui> what i want to do is this
[11:19] <bytecoder> ouch
[11:19] <ui> sudo cp /usr/share/pixmaps/ /home/olaff/Desktop/gaim/
[11:19] <cjhcjhcjh> JDigital_, pr0n usually zips quite well ;-)
[11:19] <starscalling> hey im having trouble with the msttcorefonts package:
[11:19] <bytecoder> my hoary install got completely b0rked by apt-get
[11:19] <starscalling> all of the links for the fonts time out
[11:19] <ui> what is wrong in it?
[11:19] <steal> do you know how can i install my lexmark x1170 multifunction ???
[11:19] <starscalling> would anyone know where one could get those?
[11:19] <JDigital_> I didn't have any pron on this drive.
[11:19] <JDigital_> It's all on my other partition.
[11:19] <JDigital_> :)
[11:19] <guru54> IcemanV9, how do i do that with gnomad2 ?
[11:19] <JDigital_> Oh wow.
[11:19] <steal> the printer work well but the scanner...
[11:19] <steal> i don't have any idea
[11:19] <HappyFool> ui: try   'cp -R /usr/share/pixmaps/* /home/olaff/Desktop/gaim/'
[11:19] <JDigital_> apt-get installing anything gives me a millionty unmet dependencies
[11:20] <Eppu> JDigital_: pick one of the dependencies and install that first
[11:20] <IcemanV9> guru54: Operation not permitted -> means you need to use 'sudo'
[11:20] <rdario_mx> BACK
[11:20] <synd> Any way to install an RPM?
[11:20] <bozel> i have installed gcc, but if i press "gcc" it says "command not found"
[11:20] <bozel> what to do?
[11:20] <fluvvell> can anyone explain the root priveliges system to me? I cant sudo anymore or run update-manager and I need to figure out why
[11:20] <HappyFool> bozel: did you install 'build-essential' ?
[11:21] <bytecoder> fluvvell, sudo allows you to run stuff as root
[11:21] <fluvvell> I've been a mandrake user in the past
[11:21] <HappyFool> !tell fluvvell about root
[11:21] <bytecoder> fluvvell, but it doesn't actually log in as root
[11:21] <guru54> ah ok thx IcemanV9  i got it to work
[11:21] <HappyFool> fluvvell: that wiki page will tell you quite a bit about it
[11:21] <bytecoder> root has no password on a default ubuntu system
[11:21] <bozel> no
[11:21] <bozel> i try
[11:21] <bytecoder> grr
[11:21] <bytecoder> and now I can't even mount the partition from the live cd
[11:22] <bytecoder> this sucks
[11:22] <IcemanV9> :)
[11:22] <fluvvell> HappyFool: Thanks, reading now
[11:22] <bytecoder> EXT2-fs: hda2: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4).
[11:22] <cjhcjhcjh> synd sudo rpm -i packagename
[11:22] <FliesLikeADesk> why do i get a segmentation fault when i try to run a program i just installed from apt?
[11:22] <bytecoder> FliesLikeABrick, something's screwed up
[11:22] <HappyFool> cjhcjhcjh: on an ubuntu system? ;)
[11:22] <bytecoder> FliesLikeABrick, unless the name of the program is "seg-fault"
[11:22] <FliesLikeADesk> thanks bytecoder , didn't know that
[11:22] <bozel> thx 2 HappyFool, now its working
[11:22] <bozel> :)
[11:22] <FliesLikeADesk> .
[11:22] <bytecoder> :)
[11:23] <bytecoder> happy to help
[11:23] <bytecoder> hehe
[11:23] <bytecoder> it might be the program
[11:23] <bytecoder> it might be apt-get
[11:23] <bytecoder> that's what happens when you're too vague
[11:23] <cjhcjhcjh> HappyFool, ahh...ok...on mine
[11:23] <bytecoder> if that's all you know, you need to find out more
[11:23] <bytecoder> you can't expect people to read your mind
[11:23] <JDigital_> Okay, back to playing Gameboy
[11:24] <bytecoder> cjhcjhcjh, they do
[11:24] <Frem> Has anyone seen Ubuntu Lite?  I have a netgear wg311 v3 pci G wireless card installed though :(
[11:28] <leted> or pmcia?
[11:28] <cjhcjhcjh> hmm...gambatte
[11:28] <Ekibyougami> mini pci
[11:28] <borgista> woodwizzle: my card wasn't detected until after installation.
[11:29] <synd> What's the cmd to install a .deb?
[11:29] <[LethAL] > !tell synd about dpkg
[11:29] <dooglus> sudo dpkg -i <deb-file>
[11:29] <borgista> dpkg -i *.deb
[11:29] <woodwizzle> borgista, ah so I should just continue on through then? Ok, i'll try that
[11:29] <synd> Ah. Thanks. I have a terrible mem.
[11:29] <borgista> Yes woodwizzle.
[11:29] <bettong_BOFH> ok i need help
[11:29] <lampshade> synd:  Is that a debian .deb or one for Ubuntu?
[11:29] <borgista> woodwizzle: then configure with wireless-tools such as: iwconfig
[11:29] <Ekibyougami> patriot ram = terrible mem =x
[11:30] <bettong_BOFH> i installed ndswrapper and tryed to get my wlan0 card to run and it won't no matter what i do
[11:30] <lampshade> synd:  Just reminding that although they can work back and forth they are guaranteed to
[11:30] <dooglus> the channel's full of jokers tonight! :)
[11:30] <bettong_BOFH> can someone please help me
[11:30] <Ekibyougami> bettong, i just got done doing that on mine
[11:30] <stpere> someone know what I should look for... I'm using ndiswrapper, it says driver present, hardware present... but once the module is loaded, I can't change the essid with iwconfig
[11:30] <bettong_BOFH> can you help me?
[11:30] <Ekibyougami> wich driver does your card use?
[11:30] <stpere> no error message, just no changing
[11:30] <kronus-> does apache need anything to work with mysql?
[11:30] <kronus-> and vice versa
[11:31] <Ekibyougami> kronus, check out http://apachefriends.org
[11:31] <stpere> I tried the demo version of driverloader (from linuxant) and it works fine with the same ndis driver
[11:31] <kronus-> ya, been there
[11:31] <Ekibyougami> stpere, do sudo ifdown wlan0
[11:31] <Ekibyougami> and then try to change it
[11:31] <azique> can somebody pleeaase tell me, how to change the mentioned config.mk to fit Ubuntu? :D -> http://pastebin.com/393915
[11:31] <stpere> nice, let me try
[11:31] <HappyFool> kronus-: i think you need some other glue bit (php, perl, python...)
[11:32] <kronus-> well, i already ahve php installed
[11:32] <Ekibyougami> i just use xampp
[11:32] <HappyFool> kronus-: i think there's a mysql php package
[11:32] <Ekibyougami> since it has apache mysql, php and all that jazz
[11:32] <kronus-> but in the ubuntu wiki, here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=ApachePHPMySQL, it says i need a mmod_auth for apache
[11:32] <HappyFool> kronus-: php4-mysql, at a guess
[11:32] <fluvvell> HappyFool: Thanks for the pointer, I made one mistake - I changed my default group to a shared one and it altered all my priveleges.  I couldn't sudo.  So I've sorted it out, made myself a member of admin and was able to access the user and group mod stuff again.
[11:33] <HappyFool> fluvvell: cool
[11:33] <DaSkreech> can I install luminocity in Ubuntu?
[11:33] <synd> lampshade: It's a RPM converted to DEB
[11:33] <kronus-> however, i installed apache 1.3, not apache2, so there's no mod_auth module
[11:33] <pinucset> amarok project needs money. Please consider giving them a little donation. Down-right in http://amarok.kde.org/
[11:33] <dandel> bytecoder, so you say get kde?
[11:33] <HappyFool> kronus-: ah. maybe just use apache2 ;)
[11:33] <[LethAL] > Maybe when it gets a GTK2 interface pinucset :P
[11:34] <kronus-> i had a prob with it
[11:34] <jackmacokc> help!  my breezy install will not boot after initial install, i think it has to do with my PCI nvidia card
[11:34] <stpere> still nothing
[11:34] <kronus-> apache2 disliked its own control module
[11:35] <lampshade> synd:  I don't know in that case.    If they do you got lucky not because they are really supposed to.
[11:35] <stpere> iwlist does see my AP
[11:35] <captevil-two> What's a good, GTK2 frontend for mplayer? gmplayer looks kind of ugly.
[11:35] <fredforfaen> does anybody here have exoerience with phpsysinfo?
[11:35] <HappyFool> kronus-: my impression is that ubuntu's standard http server is apache2; i'd persevere with that
[11:35] <starscalling> bingo!
[11:36] <lampshade> I feel a netsplit
[11:36] <starscalling> so if i have the source fonts for msttcorefonts how can i put them in my system so that it can run it?
[11:36] <Ekibyougami> stpere, what i did was dissabled using ifdown, then rebooted, set it all up in iwconfig, used iwconfig commit
[11:36] <synd> lampshade: I'm aware. Been using Ubuntu since Warty :)
[11:36] <Ekibyougami> rebooted again and then set up the essid
[11:36] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[11:36] <DaSkreech> How would I get Wobbly windows?
[11:36] <HappyFool> spambots, i reckon
[11:36] <starscalling> the package is broken atm as the dling from sourceforge bit the links time out
[11:36] <kronus-> spam?
[11:36] <synd> lampshade: There are many people out there that judge Ubuntu unfairly.
[11:36] <kronus-> yeah, spambots
[11:36] <[LethAL] > Yup
[11:36] <stpere> Ekibyougami, ok, I will try that iwconfig commit
[11:36] <lampshade> synd:  yeah, like I said I ran into a guy like that just a few days ago
[11:37] <[LethAL] > !ops
[11:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[11:37] <pupil> [LethAL] , Hey , how are yah !
[11:37] <jackmacokc> jesus..cant someone do something about spam bots
[11:37] <jrattner1> Why does my entire system lock up when modprobing ndiswrappers even though ndiswrapper detects the driver and hardware?
[11:37] <[LethAL] > jackmacokc, I just did
[11:37] <lee> lame...
[11:37] <jackmacokc> you sure lethal? this is ridiculous
[11:37] <Seveas> return of the spamcrap
[11:37] <HappyFool> *yay*
[11:37] <jackmacokc> there we go
[11:37] <[LethAL] > See :)
[11:37] <jackmacokc> thanks
[11:37] <jackmacokc> that was brutal
[11:38] <dandel> hmm
[11:38] <azique> hach, no one there who knows how to configure that PCMCIA-driver? :(
[11:38] <[LethAL] > (!)ops > spambots
[11:38] <pupil> [LethAL] , I have a P133 system with like 64mb edo ram.  I want to put linux on it,. I tried installing ubuntu server ,. but it didnt even get to that point
[11:38] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[11:38] <dandel> wtf.... synaptic keeps having segmentatino faults
[11:38] <[LethAL] > pupil, Use a smaller distro
[11:38] <jackmacokc> anyone know of problems with PCI graphics in breezy?
[11:38] <[LethAL] > dandel, purge it and apt-get it again
[11:38] <nalioth> pupil: try damn small linux
[11:39] <pupil> [LethAL] , what I mean is,. when I put in the cd,. it tried to boot from the cd,. but all I saw was the cursur blinking, and nothing happened.
[11:39] <Ekibyougami> or SOL
[11:39] <pupil> nalioth, I have damn small,. does it use apt-get?
[11:39] <DaSkreech> Does anyone have luminocity running on Ubunut?
[11:39] <nalioth> pupil: it is debian based, yes
[11:39] <[LethAL] > Odd, no idea pupil
[11:40] <Ekibyougami> i think DS has apt-get
[11:40] <pupil> [LethAL] , I've used it before,. I couldnt remember if it used apt-get,.
[11:40] <pupil> nalioth, I have also tried feather linux
[11:41] <pupil> nalioth, what I'm curious about is if a default install will detect and install my network card.. its wireless g card
[11:41] <Ekibyougami> depends on the chipset pupil
[11:41] <pupil> Ekibyougami, same thing nalioth said.
[11:41] <Ekibyougami> do you know what chipset it uses?
[11:41] <pupil> I gotta go check., .. i'm lazy
[11:41] <Ekibyougami> lol
[11:41] <pupil> Ekibyougami, nah,. i gotta go open her up
[11:42] <qt2> i'm having problems using backports as decriped in http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/ch02.html#addingbackports ...does anyone know why?
[11:42] <dandel> lethal... how do i do that?
[11:42] <FliesLikeADesk> qt2,  are you on breezy or hoary
[11:43] <Ekibyougami> you should be able to find the chipset without opening it up
[11:43] <DaSkreech> dapper ;)
[11:43] <Ekibyougami> just go to the manufacturer website and look at the specs :p
[11:43] <FliesLikeADesk> qt2,  if you're on breezy, there are no backports yet
[11:43] <pupil> Whats the differnece between breezy and hoary,. I have installed both,. not on the same system,. I noticed some suttle differences in menu and nautilus.,
[11:43] <qt2> FliesLikeADesk: breezy.
[11:43] <pupil> but I didint explore much more than that
[11:43] <nicoal> ooo breezy is out... when did this occur?
[11:43] <FliesLikeADesk> !tell qt2 about breezy
[11:43] <nalioth> pupil: that all depends on what chipset your card uses
[11:43] <FliesLikeADesk> er whoops
[11:44] <HappyFool> nicoal: yesterday ;)
[11:44] <FliesLikeADesk> !tell qt2 about backports
[11:44] <nicoal> HappyFool, awesome!
[11:44] <qt2> FliesLikeADesk: someone should change it so it doesnt say "Backports is now available." then... :o
[11:44] <pupil> nalioth, where do i go and check to see compatiblity?
[11:44] <HappyFool> pupil: breezy is newer; it's presumably generally better
[11:44] <Rawplayer> whats the problem with ubuntu/gcc/ and a new kernel?
[11:44] <Rawplayer> when i run make menuconfig it gets spitted with gcc stuff
[11:44] <pupil> Rawplayer, it was compilied with 3.4
[11:44] <jrattner1> When installing ndiswrappers based on the ndiswrappers wiki entry, has it changed because the repository now containts the current ndiswrapper
[11:44] <Ekibyougami> breezy is already so much more stable than the preview was
[11:44] <dandel> LethAL, well?
[11:44] <steal> steal@steallab:~/el$ cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.alioth.debian.org:/cvsroot/sane login
[11:44] <steal> Logging in to :pserver:anonymous@cvs.alioth.debian.org:2401/cvsroot/sane
[11:44] <steal> CVS password:
[11:44] <steal> wait
[11:44] <nalioth> pupil: www.damnsmalllinux.org
[11:44] <steal> wait wait
[11:44] <leted> does anyone know where there's a list of supported/unsupported firewire drives?
[11:45] <Rawplayer> pupil: i downloaded the source from kernel.org
[11:45] <pupil> Rawplayer, so you have ot make sure the gcc you are using is 3.4
[11:45] <nalioth> steal: please dont paste
[11:45] <steal> cvs don't work on my linuxbox
[11:45] <qt2> FliesLikeADesk: heh, and ubotu just told me to add the exact same line for backports that i alraedy have ;)
[11:45] <steal> i can't understand
[11:45] <dandel> Lethal, now it's goin without a segmentation problem lol.. but i got it to set to download only.
[11:45] <Pr0ph3t> hey guyz
[11:45] <starscalling> tell starscalling about codecs
[11:46] <starscalling> !tell starscalling about codecs
[11:46] <Pr0ph3t> ubuntu is good for servers ?
[11:46] <FliesLikeADesk> yeah qt2  i realized that too, but realize that it says hoary in that line :P
[11:46] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t, yes, but people who use ubuntu on servers generall end up using debian
[11:46] <FliesLikeADesk> generally*
[11:46] <FliesLikeADesk> i started out with ubuntu on my servers though
[11:46] <kevogod> What advantage does Banshee have over Rhythmbox, if any?
[11:46] <Pr0ph3t> FliesLikeABrick ok, understood
[11:47] <Pr0ph3t> I want to try ubuntu, because its have last packages
[11:47] <qt2> FliesLikeADesk: so it does, so it does...
[11:47] <Pr0ph3t> I am afraid of etch
[11:48] <FliesLikeADesk> damn all you breezy people, 2.5 KBps from apt right now
[11:48] <Pr0ph3t> 5.10 is amd64 ?
[11:49] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t,  there is an amd64 version
[11:49] <nalioth> Pr0ph3t: yes
[11:49] <FliesLikeADesk> there was one for hoary too
[11:49] <Pr0ph3t> humm
[11:49] <Pr0ph3t> will try to find here
[11:49] <pupil> nalioth, I started out with DSL .8,. they have come a long way,.
[11:49] <FliesLikeADesk> i'd reccommend the torrents for downloading, not the static mirrors
[11:49] <starscalling> noooooooooooo!!! msttcorefonts is terminally broken.. it wont work because the links for the truetype fonts are gone.... i have downloaded them manually... how can i get my system to be able to use/access em? or is it possible to redirect that package to a folder somehow?
[11:49] <FliesLikeADesk> the mirrors are way overloaded
[11:49] <nalioth> pupil: yes they have
[11:49] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t,  the torrents are very fast right now versus the overloaded static mirrors
[11:50] <nalioth> starscalling: any TTF font you desire can be used if placed in ~/.fonts    <dir may need to be created>
[11:50] <FliesLikeADesk> starscalling, did you just upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[11:50] <pupil> nalioth, I have the DSL cd,. can I upgrade from .8 to 1.5 wth apt-get?
[11:50] <ProN00b> awmigood, why can't ubuntu people do something about java
[11:50] <FliesLikeADesk> !tell ProN00b about java
[11:50] <ProN00b> where can i get java from ?
[11:50] <Pr0ph3t> FliesLikeABrick I have a good conection
[11:50] <starscalling> FliesLikeADesk:: i used the install iso and did fully new install
[11:51] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t,  it is the mirrors that are slow Pr0ph3t  since so many people are downloading
[11:51] <Pr0ph3t> humm
[11:51] <nalioth> pupil: that should be possible, if theres not too big a difference in them
[11:51] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t,  i am on 10mbit down and i was getting horrid speeds
[11:51] <nalioth> pupil: use apt-cdrom
[11:51] <topyli> ProN00b: only sun can really do anything about java
[11:51] <ui> !tell ProN00b about javadeb
[11:51] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t,  torrents are going at hundreds of KB/s right now
[11:51] <Pr0ph3t> FliesLikeABrick where are you from ?
[11:51] <FliesLikeADesk> ProN00b,  look at the PM from ubotu
[11:51] <fforw> ProN00b: if you don't care about your java implementation being free download one from http://java.sun.com/
[11:51] <nalioth> FliesLikeADesk: preferable to use the !javadeb trigger
[11:51] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t,  troy,NY, USA
[11:51] <FliesLikeADesk> thanks nalioth
[11:51] <starscalling> nalioth:: i made /usr/share/X11/fonts/truetype directory and put them in there manually.. but that didnt seem to help
[11:52] <Pr0ph3t> FliesLikeABrick how much you pay just for the conection ?
[11:52] <nalioth> starscalling: try your own personal .fonts dir
[11:52] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t,  $45/month
[11:52] <pupil> nalioth, are you familar with feather linux?
[11:52] <Zealot87> hello
[11:52] <starscalling> thanx nalioth ill try that
[11:52] <ProN00b> j2re1.5 over apt-get plx !
[11:52] <nalioth> pupil: i know the name
[11:52] <starscalling> should i have chown +x or something on them while i was at it?
[11:52] <Pr0ph3t> FliesLikeABrick thanks
[11:52] <FliesLikeADesk> starscalling,  you mean chmod?
[11:52] <pupil> I forgot my DSL cd at work,. reason I don't download the new DSL,. is because I ran out of cd's
[11:52] <pupil> lol
[11:52] <nalioth> ProN00b: it is not availabe except doing it yourself or following the links in ubotu
[11:53] <starscalling> chown i think but so that any user can open them
[11:53] <Zealot87> my updater keeps telling me something is already using my password and wont let me run the updater
[11:53] <Pr0ph3t> I got just 50k on mirror, will try torrent
[11:53] <FliesLikeADesk> Pr0ph3t,  i got 400+ on torrent
[11:53] <Zealot87> i got 700
[11:53] <Zealot87> on torrent
[11:53] <ProN00b> there was a cute repository for hoary, nothing for breezy *sob*
[11:53] <FliesLikeADesk> yeah i gott almost 700 on the torrent for i386
[11:53] <FliesLikeADesk> but now i'm doing amd64 for my roomate
[11:53] <Zealot87> yeah
[11:53] <skullzBOFH> bye
[11:53] <FliesLikeADesk> not quite as fast
[11:54] <thewayofzen> im still getting problems with the ubotu java runtimes
[11:54] <FliesLikeADesk> !javadeb
[11:54] <ubotu> javadeb is, like, totally, for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[11:54] <Zealot87> does anyone know why my a package management application is already running after restart, it wont let me run Updater!!!
[11:54] <cevizoglu> thewayofzen, you're doing what with ubotu?
[11:54] <thewayofzen> when i run azureus gtk from sourceforge with the 1.5 jre on ubotu i have issues with headers still being 1.4
[11:54] <thewayofzen> cevizoglu,  i followed ubotu to the java runtimes.. installed on breezy might be the problem i dont know
[11:54] <starscalling> nalioth:: that would be ~/.local/share/fonts? or ~/.fonts so i can make the directory please
[11:54] <cevizoglu> thewayofzen, i c
[11:55] <thewayofzen> cevizoglu, all i know is when i use azureus on Oink.me.uk  it tells me my client isnt welcome
[11:55] <thewayofzen> and the admins say azureus is indeed supported
[11:55] <thewayofzen> but that my headers are still 1.4
[11:55] <starscalling> thewayofzen:: try installing bittornado
[11:55] <Dekkard> you having trouble running azureus?
[11:55] <starscalling> run that on the torrent and see if that will work
[11:55] <Zealot87> my computer keeps saying that the updater cant get an "exclusive lock" why is that?!!?!?!
[11:55] <thewayofzen> starscalling,  gnome torrent works fine
[11:55] <leted> qquit
[11:55] <leted> quit
[11:55] <JDigital_> I find servers that ban me for my client
[11:55] <thewayofzen> starscalling, bittornado is the UGLY
[11:55] <starscalling> then they have had too many problems with the azureus leech plugin i bet
[11:56] <thewayofzen> StarKruzr,  the admins told me its my java headers
[11:56] <thewayofzen> starscalling,  ^
[11:56] <starscalling> thewayofzen:: in commandline its better: launchmanycurses /directorygoeshere
[11:56] <nalioth> starscalling: /home/starscalling/.fonts
[11:56] <dandel> does anyone know how to fix the ubuntu issue with doom3, it's a segmentation fault due to vertex array being in virtual memory :|
[11:56] <JDigital_> the admins told me it was my python
[11:56] <starscalling> thanx nalioth
[11:56] <ProN00b> ghay, .deb per torrent !!!
[11:56] <fforw> thewayofzen: maybe it's just the usual issue that azureus with all it's different java versions ruins client statistics
[11:56] <JDigital_> Zealot87: quit all other open copies of synaptic or apt-get
[11:57] <pupil> which distro has the best support for older hardware?
[11:57] <FliesLikeADesk> pupil,  any
[11:57] <pgas> hi
[11:57] <FliesLikeADesk> pupil,  perhaps hoary may be a better choice currently
[11:57] <pupil> FliesLikeABrick, cause its the same kernel right?
[11:57] <Zealot87> JDigital_, there are no others
[11:57] <JDigital_> odd
[11:57] <thewayofzen> fforw, all i know is when java and azureus were in the repos
[11:57] <FliesLikeADesk> pupil,  hoary will install an older kernel at install time if you want an older kernel
[11:57] <thewayofzen> fforw, it works PERFECTLY
[11:57] <ProN00b> breezy feels beta
[11:57] <Zealot87> i restarted and still wont work
[11:58] <thewayofzen> but now its broken *shrug*
[11:58] <JDigital_> Zealot: Did it crash halfway through it something
[11:58] <FliesLikeADesk> thewayofzen, which java package do i download at that link from ubotu?
[11:58] <cjhcjhcjh> I have fast net...how can I help with the torrents?
[11:58] <pgas> just upgraded to breezy, but it fails to recognize png images...does this sound familiar?
[11:58] <pupil> FliesLikeABrick, no,. I just want a distro that will install on my P133,. I know I should use DSL,. but wanted to try a server install from some other distro.
[11:58] <Zealot87> the problem started when i decided to try and use EasyUbuntu to install apps, and it was jaming on peer to peer, or it wasnt moving any farther, so i force quit that and now the update manager isnt working, so i restarted the computer and still wotn work
[11:58] <FliesLikeADesk> cjhcjhcjh,  open a torrent download and just let it run
[11:58] <nalioth> cjhcjhcjh: seed one or more
[11:58] <fforw> thewayofzen: it works. it's just that many torrent site admins don't like it
[11:58] <Zealot87> not install apps, to install drivers and sch
[11:59] <nalioth> pgas: make sure you have libpng installed
[11:59] <cjhcjhcjh> ok some1 pls paste the .torrent?
[11:59] <FliesLikeADesk> pupil,  perhaps a debian 3.1 install would be best for you if you're looking for the debian/ubuntu flavor
[11:59] <qt2> hm, i hear you can submit feature request for dapper via launchpad bug requests?
[11:59] <FliesLikeADesk> cjhcjhcjh,  it is on the ubuntu download page
[11:59] <thewayofzen> fforw,  ill just suffer through gnome torrent i guess.. :(
[11:59] <cjhcjhcjh> k
[11:59] <nalioth> cjhcjhcjh: www.ubuntulinux.org/download
[11:59] <thewayofzen> azureus was the only one i knew how to upload with.
[11:59] <pupil> FliesLikeABrick, hmm,. as long as its not complicated,. lol
[11:59] <FliesLikeADesk> pupil,  it isnt
[11:59] <reter> how do you install a file that is on your desktop?
[11:59] <starscalling> nalioth:: i take it i might need to log out and back in for that too work then? [thanx for all the help btw]
[11:59] <ProN00b> whats gnometorrent the interface for ?
[12:00] <fforw> reter: what kind of file is it?


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 Not sure why they are targeting such a small group
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[13:21] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> would using a captcha or something help alieviate all those?
 @Luke Van Dervoort, Not an option as far as I can tell. I removed all of the single named ones and re-generated the link late last night. I have a feeling that one of those accounts was inviting the spam accounts
[13:45] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> And I hate those things
 @Luke Van Dervoort, I do as well, and with modern computer vision, they are becoming less effective by the day
 What you don't like to play Whack-a-Bot?
[13:59] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> Ha, not my job man
[14:00] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> @KMyers, Really?? Not surprised. Technology moving much faster than I can keep up
 @Luke Van Dervoort, I know, it is mine
 @Luke Van Dervoort, Yes, especially with things like the Movidius, it brings edge computer vision to users without making a massive investment in expensive GPUs
 The Movidius is only $109 on Amazon for example - https://amzn.to/2tw1ib2
 No clouds or internet connectivity required
[14:04] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> Huh
 It is a USB dongle that contains Intel's edge vision processing unit (VPU). Developers can use it to run complicated computer vision tasks on a low powered device such as a raspberry pi without the need of offloading it to a cloud or a desktop with several GPUs
 I have been messing with one and am able to pull off 37 FPS on a older computer
[14:07] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> Wow
 Intel has the following use case - if you wanted to make a custom drone that uses computer vision to identify objects and navigate around dangerous objects - streaming the video to a cloud based setup for analysis will take a few seconds to do (assuming you have a strong high speed connection). Those seconds can mean the difference between the drone reacting or crashing into a building
 Normally the compute power to do this at a reasonable speed would require a decent computer and a GPU with some CUDA cores. That is not something that you can fit on a drone due to weight
[14:12] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> Ok, that makes sense now. So they needed to carry that capability along
 The VPU solves this by simply using a Pi
[14:13] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> A lot of applications in robotics in general then
 But as it is insanely inexpensive (under $120), scammers, spammers and bots can also leverage the same technology to beat captcha and other challenges to prove you are a human
[14:15] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> Wow, amazing
 As the Movidius runs offline, it can also be used in places where you would not want to trust a cloud provider with sensitive information. Examples can include OCR in documents and other private matters
 It is also pretty open, intel's SDK is open source and the sample code is well documented. It only takes a bit of python to get started (although there are samples for many languages)
[14:27] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> Well that's cool
[15:18] <maxolasersquad> FWIW I implemented a captcha on our company's website and we went from multiple spam messages a day to none in about a year.
 @maxolasersquad, It will help with some but I suspect that it will not be effective for too much longer.
 I have a few tricks of my own that stop them. My blog for example will catch attempts to post comments on pages were you would not normally need to post comments (the main page, article listings, etc) and blacklists the IP address. There is no form to enter comments so it is safe to assume that any POST attempts with comments are automated
 Taft &  University
 Gas is going up. I paid $2.09 yesterday
 @KMyers
 Was at the cvs
 Cold Brew... I need to try that
 Who is up to see Altea Battle Angel this weekend?
 Meeeee
 I want to rewatch it in imax
 The fight scenes were the best ever
 Is it playing at the Ft Lauderdale IMAX?
 Sweet, it is
 It is not an IMAX, it is THE IMAX
 @RazPi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRLfGwQ7Nsw&feature=share
 XD I love that
 Anyone else up for a movie?
 @everyone
 @KMyers since you're handling a lot of the LoCo stuff do you think you could setup the IRC-Telegram bot on your server? I need to reset all of my servers and downsize a bit.
 @ahoneybun, Sure. I wont be able to do that until this weekend - crazy few weeks at work. I can spin up a VM if you want to give it a stab.
 No rush on it. I want to take down both of the servers from Linode as I don't think I'm using it that much other then the website and the bot. The bigger one is staying for my Bitwarden setup.