[00:00] <erp2themax> urn: I answered without really thinking.  I should try in ubuntu.
[00:00] <`blahblah3> what is csgo
[00:00] <`blahblah3> what kind of a game is it
[00:02] <erp2themax> Counter-Strike: Global Offensive. First person shooter available through Steam.
[00:02] <urn> erp2themax: haha no prob. I have been waiting for it for awhile on linux :)
[00:02] <erp2themax> urn what graphics card are you using?
[00:02] <erp2themax> Because I need to get a good one one that works in ubuntu
[00:02] <urn> i'm using a ati 6850, it's old :P
[00:03] <`blahblah3> hmmmm
[00:03] <`blahblah3> i got linux i need to learn more about it, seems i read something about steam
[00:04] <erp2themax> `blahblah3: yeah steam has pretty good linux support now, for most of Valve's big-name games anyway
[00:04] <`blahblah3> im basically a beginner with linux
[00:04] <`blahblah3> is it hard to set the games up ?
[00:04] <erp2themax> nope, it's super easy, exactly the same way as if you were using steam on windows or macos
[00:05] <`blahblah3> i never used steam but thats good to know
[00:05] <`blahblah3> my friend at work has been wanting me to play some game called world of tanks i think it is ?
[00:05] <`blahblah3> have you heard of that game
[00:05] <erp2themax> oh ok. what you do is just d/l steam using ubuntu software center, then you search for the game you want and click buy/install
[00:05] <`blahblah3> i always tell him i cant because i have linux
[00:05] <`blahblah3> ok
[00:05] <erp2themax> yeah world of tanks looks fun
[00:05] <`blahblah3> is that on steam ?
[00:06] <erp2themax> I don't think so
[00:06] <`blahblah3> counter strike is free aint it ?
[00:06] <erp2themax> If I remember correctly, you can get world of tanks to run on linux using WINE
[00:06] <`blahblah3> or you gotta buy that one
[00:06] <erp2themax> not free, you have to buy it
[00:06] <`blahblah3> ok
[00:06] <`blahblah3> never used wine
[00:06] <`blahblah3> its basically a windows emulator right
[00:07] <eeee> k1l_: it worked out, thanks :)
[00:07] <erp2themax> not really... "WINE is not an emulator".. acronym W.I.N.E.
[00:07] <`blahblah3> okay
[00:07] <erp2themax> well, it's not "that" kind of emulator :P
[00:07] <erp2themax> it's a compatibility layer
[00:07] <`blahblah3> alright, like i said im kinda dumb to a lot of this
[00:07] <erp2themax> noooo not dumb!
[00:08] <erp2themax> just beginner
[00:08] <erp2themax> and there's nothing wrong with that
[00:08] <erp2themax> welcome, welcome@!
[00:08] <`blahblah3> basically, ive had ubuntu for a few years now
[00:08] <`blahblah3> but all i ever do on the computer is surf the web basically...
[00:08] <erp2themax> makes sense
[00:08] <`blahblah3> so i only try to learn things about it when need be lol
[00:08] <`blahblah3> but id like to get this tank game
[00:09] <`blahblah3> get wine from the software center ?
[00:09] <jishjish> hi all - hi all, i've noticed that when I search in software centre for an app say "shotwell" the software centre can't find it, but when I go in terminal and type "sudo apt-get install shotwell" it installs fine. can someone please explain why software centre and terminal are seeing / able to access different softwares?
[00:09] <eeeeee> `blahblah3: i don't know what's wrong but nautilus-actions hasn't added anything
[00:10] <erp2themax> if u want wine, go the easy way, get playonlinux from the sofware centre
[00:10] <`blahblah3> can i pm you erp2themax ?
[00:10] <erp2themax> it's a front end for wine
[00:10] <erp2themax> yes
[00:10] <`blahblah3> i just seen that! and was wondering if i should get that
[00:10] <`blahblah3> or if i had to get something else and that too lol
[00:12] <erp2themax> if you install just playonlinux, it will install wine automatically since playonlinux depends on wine
[00:14] <jishjish> reason I am asking is I am looking to install kingsoft or wps office 2014
[00:15] <jishjish> ideally i'd like to find it in software centre, or install from terminal
[00:17] <OerHeks> jishjish, it is part of ubuntu kylin, or download the deb from http://wps-community.org/download.html
[00:18] <jishjish> OerHeks: yes, I know I can do that I'm looking to find out why the difference between what ss shows and what terminal lets me install (don't they bothwork off the same ppa (which is basically a pointer to some server from which to download and install software?)
[00:20] <OerHeks> jishjish, it is not part of the standard ubuntu
[00:23] <jishjish> OerHeks --- Yes I know, I'm not asking if it's part of the standard ubuntu I'm asking why can I not find an app in the software centre, but I can still install it in terminal(don't s and terminal need the same repositories aka pointers to servers) to download software)???
[00:25] <OerHeks> softwarecenter and terminal apt-get/dpkg uses the same softwarechannel, yes.
[00:26] <jishjish> OerHeks, thats what I thought, so why will "shotwell" as an example not show up in software-centre but install instantly in terminal?
[00:26] <OerHeks> so if you cannot find it in softwarecenter, terminal won;t either, use the deb from the website or use ubuntu-kylin ( cn)
[00:26] <sosico> hello there
[00:26] <sosico> I'm having problems with unity
[00:26] <sosico> on 14.04
[00:26] <sosico> it's not loading
[00:26] <OerHeks> shotwell is installed standard in 14,04 jishjish
[00:26] <sosico> the launcher and the top panel
[00:27] <sosico> I created another user
[00:27] <sosico> on the machine
[00:27] <sosico> and it loads on the other user
[00:27] <Ben64> sosico: can you use the enter key less
[00:27] <jishjish> Oerheks yes, but it;s not in software centre, (i uninstalled it) and then installed it again via terminal.
[00:27] <rcmaehl> I have a bunch of Ubuntu CDs that aren't labeled. How do I figure out what version and arch they are
[00:27] <OerHeks> rcmaehl, look at the date of files
[00:28] <rcmaehl> OerHeks, wouldn't that just tell me when I burned the files to the CD?
[00:28] <sosico> ben64: ok I will, but do you have any idea what could be the problem?
[00:29] <OerHeks> rcmaehl, see the readme.diskdefines
[00:31] <sosico> anybody has an idea on how can I restore unity launcher and top panel, the screen is blank only with the cursor and the wallpaper..
[00:31] <pennies> hello is anyone around
[00:31] <pennies> i have a question
[00:31] <reisio> pennies: prove it
[00:32] <pennies> !!
[00:32] <reisio> sosico: does ALT+F2 work?
[00:32] <pennies> reisio: i'm new to linux, havent been using it for too long
[00:32] <sosico> let me try that
[00:32] <reisio> pennies: that's not a question :)
[00:32] <pennies> im running an ubuntu VM and i'm trying to run a vpn within the VM
[00:33] <pennies> so my question is how to get a vpn to run on ubuntu, using openvpn or somehting better that u may know
[00:33] <sosico> reisio: no, it doesn't work
[00:33] <reisio> pennies: that's quite a broad question
[00:34] <sosico> pennies: what vpn server do you need to connect to
[00:34] <deadtrance> is this the ubuntu studio chat?
[00:34] <pennies> well i'm not really sure what the best way would be
[00:34] <reisio> sosico: you could try CTRL+ALT+F2, then running things like DISPLAY=:0 nohup unity-something &> /dev/null &
[00:34] <sosico> cisco? openvpn?
[00:34] <pennies> i dont have a vpn server i would have to host one or use something else
[00:34] <reisio> sosico: actually make it DISPLAY=:0 nohup gnome-terminal &> /dev/null &
[00:34] <pennies> i'm just wondering what the best way would be, seeing as i dont want to use a vps or something like that
[00:34] <reisio> sosico: you can do anything with a term
[00:34] <pennies> from within a VM
[00:34] <reisio> deadtrance: /msg alis list *ubunt*stud*
[00:35] <deadtrance> i dont understand
[00:35] <sosico> pennies: take  a look at this url http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/install-cisco-vpn-client-ubuntu-13-04-13-10/
[00:36] <sosico> reisio: I have created another user on the machine, on this user unity loads, on the previous user it does not.
[00:36] <pennies> thanks for this i will give it a try
[00:36] <sosico> reisio: I know how to open a terminal , the problem is that unity does not load after I logging , does not normally open
[00:38] <squinty> sosby:  couple of things you may want to try     restart unity with:  setsid unity     and  restart unity-panel-service
[00:38] <reisio> sosico: ^
[00:38] <sosico> ?
[00:38] <spearhead> sosico, you can access a command line via ctrl+alt+F2
[00:40] <sosico> spearhead: yes, I have done that, and then I export DISPLAY=:0 and execute terminal
[00:43] <felty> hoo hoo
[00:43] <felty> hell yeah
[00:45] <Guest67617> hola
[00:47] <reisio> Guest67617: shalom :) /nick spanishguy
[00:48] <maxvi> which program I can draw some schema with tree data?
[00:49] <baako> hi guys how do i create a new user account.
[00:49] <baako> I wann ause this user for everyday use
[00:50] <zbert> l
[00:50]  * zbert
[00:50]  * zskelton
[00:51] <Bashing-om> baako: see: "man adduse"r from terminal.
[00:51] <eeee> baako: sudo useradd -m <user>
[00:51] <Bashing-om> "adduser"*
[00:51] <squinty> baako:  in terminal you can use    adduser   (adduser -h for help)  or in System Settings > Users and Groups (or similar)
[00:52]  * zskelton
[00:52] <eeee> baako: sudo passwd <user> , to set the password
[00:53] <explodes> Is it true that to migrate my current HDD to an SSD, I can just "sudo cp -ax /media/hdd /media/ssd" and reinstall grub and it'll just pretend like nothing ever happened?
[00:53] <explodes> (From a Live Disk anyway)
[00:53] <explodes> Seems like black magic to me.
[00:53] <reisio> explodes: something like that, yes
[00:53] <explodes> c00l
[00:53] <reisio> it's simple when your OS isn't trying to get you to buy another copy
[00:53] <daftykins> explodes: clonezilla will also be a nice choice
[00:53] <explodes> Heh.
[00:54] <baako> sudo useradd -m Baako  <--- to add user ->>> and sudo passwd Baako <--- to add password--->
[00:54] <reisio> no, clonezilla is silly
[00:54] <explodes> K. BRB Gonna buy an SSD...
[00:54] <reisio> explodes: hahha
[00:54] <daftykins> why silly?
[00:54] <explodes> reisio: whuts so funny man
[00:54] <baako> right?
[00:54] <explodes> what* sorry
[00:54] <reisio> explodes: oh you were serious :P
[00:54] <explodes> reisio: heh, yea...
[00:55] <explodes> my new PC could be a LOT faster me thinks
[00:55] <reisio> explodes: just remember to disconnect the old drive before reinstallin grub/booting
[00:55] <explodes> why's that?
[00:56] <explodes> if I just dd that bitch, is that cool?
[00:56] <reisio> no
[00:56] <reisio> that's silly :p
[00:56] <explodes> So, do you mean just physically disconnect it? I don't understand
[00:57] <reisio> explodes: just consider the orde
[00:57] <reisio> order*
[00:57] <reisio> grub likes to install to the first device
[00:57] <reisio> just keep it in mind :)
[00:57] <explodes> grub-install /dev/ssd
[00:57] <reisio> you also don't want two discs with duplicate filesystems, with the same UUIDs
[00:58] <reisio> you don't want to confuse rub or fstab
[00:58] <explodes> Right right ok
[00:58] <reisio> confuse grub*
[00:58]  * reisio fixes keyboard position
[00:58] <explodes> brb buying a thing.
[00:58] <reisio> nothing dangerous, but it'd delay your bootup a few minutes before you fix it
[00:58] <explodes> wait, my current drive bays have a factor of 3.5" but most SSDs are 2.5" or something different. What do you do about that?
[00:58] <Bashing-om> explodes: Also, /etc/fstab - UUIDs will have to be edited to relect the SSD rather then the HD .
[00:59] <baako> adduser: Please enter a username matching the regular expression configured
[00:59] <baako> via the NAME_REGEX[_SYSTEM] configuration variable.  Use the `--force-badname'
[00:59] <baako> option to relax this check or reconfigure NAME_REGEX.
[00:59] <baako> what does that mean?
[00:59] <explodes> Bashing-om: kk, this guys says to do this to fix that "$ grub-install --recheck /dev/ssd"
[00:59] <explodes> as per http://askubuntu.com/questions/40372/how-to-move-ubuntu-to-an-ssd
[00:59] <eeee> baako: means you're using a bad user name
[00:59] <Bashing-om> ex
[00:59] <explodes> yes?
[01:01] <baako> i have created it thanks
[01:01] <baako> will a standard user account type has access to var/www ?
[01:01] <Bashing-om> explodes: Well, that will fix the UUIDs for frub, but not for what the system mounts for the 'root' partition. ( nother reason to disconnect the hd ) .
[01:01] <explodes> ok...
[01:01] <eeee> baako: i dont think so
[01:01] <Bashing-om> frub/grub*
[01:01] <explodes> Wait, is the difference between HDD and SSD really worth it?
[01:01] <explodes> Is it like night and day?
[01:02] <explodes> ..I imagine it is, but I don't want to be all disappointed
[01:02] <baako> eeee how can i give him permission to that directory?
[01:02] <Bashing-om> explodes: I have seen where those who have made the switch are impressed.
[01:02] <explodes> k
[01:02] <bashfr3ak> explodes It is a pretty massive difference
[01:02] <baako> brb let me log into this new user account and see
[01:03] <explodes> alright. brb.
[01:03] <felty> yo
[01:03] <bashfr3ak> faster file transfer rate stuff
[01:03] <OerHeks> not the transferrate, but 0 seektime is improving performance
[01:06] <felty> It's morning here
[01:06] <felty> :)
[01:10] <Baako2> guys should i install LAMP as shown here https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-14-04
[01:13] <erp2themaxx> Baako2: yeah that's a good guide
[01:14] <OerHeks> Baako2, good start, use the official manual too https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/ and read more about securing http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1204-lts-server-part-1-basics
[01:14] <Baako2> i cant install this as a normal user
[01:15] <OerHeks> Baako2, that is right, you need to have admin priv = root
[01:15] <baako> okay am here
[01:16] <baako> on the adm account
[01:16] <felty> anyone have problem with laptop lid closing and suspend?
[01:17] <baako> the ubuntu documentation says to install tasksel
[01:17] <reisio> felty: problem?
[01:17] <baako> https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/lamp-overview.html
[01:18] <baako> am goign to follow https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-14-04
[01:18] <baako> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to extras.ubuntu.com:http:
[01:18] <reisio> you really shouldn't need some 3rd party blog to install that
[01:19] <baako> how to i fix it pleaase
[01:19] <baako> reisio are you talking to me?
[01:20] <baako> am off to bed guys got work in the morning
[01:21] <reisio> yup
[01:21] <reisio> bye
[01:22] <punkunity> anyone know of a good audio enhancement program similar to Viper4Android or Viper4Windows thats free for linux?
[01:22] <punkunity> without using broke ass wine
[01:28] <Guest9812> dudes is this good? http://howtoubuntu.org/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr
[01:29] <OerHeks> Guest9812, any PPA is at your own risc, not supported here, but can be fun
[01:30] <Guest9812> i know nothing... can u make a suggestion?
[01:30] <Ben64> Guest9812: you probably shouldn't do a bunch of stuff because a website told you to
[01:30] <Guest9812> i get this error about sudoers o something...
[01:31] <Guest9812> that's why i'm here
[01:34] <Guest9812> well, come on, ubuntu is blinking an eye to non open software, so how can i install the commerciall codecs?
[01:34] <Guest9812> b real
[01:34] <Ben64> Guest9812: what are you talking about
[01:35] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:35] <Guest9812> oh come on
[01:36] <OerHeks> i think he is singing with the radio, Ben64
[01:37] <OerHeks> !info pykaraoke
[01:38] <Guest9812> u know it's just not worth it
[01:38] <somsip> Guest9812: there's no need to add the PPAs on here unless you really need them. And we wouldn't recommend using PPAs. Everything else is personal choice. The webpage seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut that does not need cracking
[01:38] <Ben64> Guest9812: ask an actual question and you'll get an answer, you just keep making random remarks
[01:38] <somsip> Guest9812: *"here" meaning the link you gave
[01:38] <OerHeks> maybe the worst "things to do after install 14.04' i have seen indeed
[01:38] <somsip> OerHeks: pretty shocking isn't it
[01:39] <somsip> OerHeks: the list on "These instructions presume..." is a bit silly
[01:41] <OerHeks> this one is also full of ppa's > http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html , just start with restricted extras, videodriver-tool and updates, amd explore softwarecenter first
[01:41] <explodes> 250GB SSD GET
[01:41] <Guest9812> ubuntu is like a bisexual
[01:41] <Guest9812> i do thiw and that
[01:41] <somsip> Guest9812: and now you've proved who you really are
[01:42] <Guest9812> right, i don't have a problem with that
[01:42] <Guest9812> hiding it is the worst
[01:42] <Ben64> Guest9812: well this channel is for ubuntu support only. take whatever it is you're doing here somewhere else
[01:43] <Guest9812> for ubuntu support--> future money
[01:43] <Guest9812> ok
[01:46] <rootbox`mbp> Hello guys
[01:47] <KP34> Evening
[01:47] <rootbox`mbp> morning
[01:47] <ahklerner> hi
[01:49] <lotuspsychje> for those who are interested: developers have released a new RTM of ubuntu touch, for more info join #ubuntu-touch
[01:50] <explodes> I'm copying my HDD to an SSD, what partition table type should I put on the SSD?
[01:50] <explodes> Is MSDOS chill
[01:51] <TomBrady> !ops | stop sinning now
[01:51] <lotuspsychje> explodes: did you set ide to ahci in bios?
[01:52] <explodes> lotuspsychje: negative
[01:52] <KP34> !ops
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> explodes: i would recommend a clean install of ubuntu on your ssd
[01:52] <phunyguy> ..... realy?
[01:52] <phunyguy> really*
[01:52] <explodes> lotuspsychje: since i'm trying this first, what partition type would you have me do
[01:52] <phunyguy> the first !ops call didn't get everyone's attention?  Come on guys.... lol
[01:53] <KP34> !ops
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> explodes: the partition that ubuntu setup chooses, will work nicely
[01:53] <erp2themaxx> I don't get what that's for
[01:53] <explodes> lotuspsychje: thanks but no thanks
[01:53] <explodes> Like I said, I'm trying this first, if you don't know just let me know
[01:54] <Ben64> explodes: you should set it to ahci before you do anything else
[01:57] <explodes> check
[01:58] <lotuspsychje> explodes: after installing ubuntu on your ssd, there are some nice tweaks you can try
[01:58] <explodes> i'm not installing, i'm copying
[01:58] <explodes> http://askubuntu.com/questions/40372/how-to-move-ubuntu-to-an-ssd
[01:59] <lotuspsychje> explodes: wich version are you copying?
[01:59] <explodes> 14.04
[02:00] <lotuspsychje> explodes: well everyone is free to choose howto, but i would do it this way
[02:00] <lotuspsychje> would not
[02:00] <explodes> I'm cool for losing data, I just want to TRY the easy way first
[02:01] <explodes> It will save me a LOT of downloading if it works, at the risk of losing 2 hours trying it out
[02:01] <SchrodingersScat> explodes: how are you copying it?
[02:01] <explodes> sudo cp -ax /media/hd /media/ssd, then some grub stuff
[02:02] <lotuspsychje> explodes: ive installed 14.04 64bit on samsung evo 840 120gig in 10min... that was as easy as it gets
[02:02] <explodes> thats the drive i have
[02:02] <explodes> except mine is bigger :P
[02:03] <explodes> Yea, screw it. I might as well start from scratch
[02:03] <lotuspsychje> explodes: nothing like a good clean setup :p
[02:03] <explodes> Should I use gparted to nuke the original drive first to avoid confusion during boot?
[02:03] <eeee> if you want to install the same packages you have it's pretty easy
[02:03] <explodes> except this setup is only 2 days old anyway
[02:03] <eeee> ( @ explodes )
[02:03] <explodes> But, should I nuke my original HDD
[02:04] <explodes> ... its nuked
[02:04] <lotuspsychje> explodes: will you use it as 2nd hd in your machine?
[02:04] <openCholby> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[02:04] <explodes> yea yea
[02:04] <explodes> I will
[02:05] <explodes> can I put a RAID configuration on a 3TB and a 2TB?
[02:05] <explodes> I really don't need 5TB for BS
[02:05] <explodes> But do those drives have to be the same size, I mean?
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> !raid | explodes
[02:06] <explodes> Gonna use hardware raid..
[02:07] <SchrodingersScat> and you don't even know if the copy worked?
[02:07] <explodes> I'm starting fresh
[02:07] <boh> Hi, does anyone know of an stock management program with checkout and / or billing system. It should be very easy to use, OpenERP is just too much.
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> boh: apt-cache search show few, openerp and smtm
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> boh: maybe more luck on software centre 'stock' ?
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> !info dollibarr | boh how about this
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> !info dolibarr
[02:14]  * user4 ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.1 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 中文 ** CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G645 @ 2.90GHz (2.00 GHz) ** RAM: 3913 MB Total (1808 MB Free) ** VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics ** Uptime: 48.82 Hours **
[02:15] <sudoritz> anyone know to create quick dummy process
[02:15] <sudoritz> as SymAutoProtect
[02:16] <sudoritz> need to fake that symantenc is running
[02:16] <boh> Thanks ... :)
[02:18] <SchrodingersScat> idk, you can name a script whatever you want, #!/bin/bash ; while true ; do sleep 3 ; done
[02:18] <SchrodingersScat> sounds like an odd thing to do though..
[02:19] <jdecuirm_> Hi!! is there any way to configure correctly the sound of Kubuntu?! meaning that, sound like dirty the audio output!
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> !sound | jdecuirm_
[02:21] <fendermaniac> Hello
[02:21] <phunyguy> user4: please don't use scripts in here
[02:22] <fendermaniac> Trying to get Ubuntu running on VirtualBox, but after a successful install, Virtualbox shuts down when i try to restart the machine
[02:22] <fendermaniac> has anyone had this kind of issue with windows 8?
[02:22] <fendermaniac> i'm using Ubuntu 14.04 32 bit
[02:22] <phunyguy> fendermaniac: sounds an awful lot like a Windows 8/Virtualbox issue, not Ubuntu.
[02:23] <fendermaniac> I kind of figured
[02:23] <phunyguy> sorry bud
[02:23] <fendermaniac> I've installed Ubuntu as a dual boot on windows 7 and then again on virtualbox like 3 years ago, thought it would be just as easy :(
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> fendermaniac: maybe you can reverse, install ubuntu 14.04 and install virtualbox with windows if you like
[02:24] <fendermaniac> maybe
[02:24] <reisio> fendermaniac: vbox version?
[02:24] <fendermaniac> but wouldn
[02:24] <fendermaniac> tried the latest version 4.3.15
[02:25] <fendermaniac> then tried 4.3.12
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox
[02:25] <reisio> lotuspsychje: what arch is the guest?
[02:26] <fendermaniac> with 4.3.15 it seems to properly install, but then when I restart it all I get is the purple screen and pointer
[02:26] <reisio> okay, well that's a different problem
[02:26] <reisio> a better one
[02:26] <fendermaniac> well that's good to hear
[02:27] <fendermaniac> i think I got some sort of internal error, but didn't get a chance to take a snapshot
[02:30] <boh> Thank you! Dilobarr seems to be the right tool.
[02:32] <reisio> dolibarr?
[02:33] <ObrienDave> typonese ;P
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> reisio: i suggested dolibarr as stock management package
[02:35] <naqR0M> partydome is back up irc.partydome.us #party
[02:38] <willwh> wtf is partydome ;x
[02:40] <pzp> Hey
[02:41] <pzp> Need some quick help transferring files from a VM running Ubuntu Server 12.04.5 to a thumb drive
[02:49] <chaotix> hey heyyy
[02:49] <chaotix> i am looking for a download for ubuntu mate remix 14.04, but not alpha or beta
[02:49] <chaotix> and i am having trouble finding it on google
[02:49] <somsip> chaotix: I believe mate is fully supported in 14.10
[02:50] <chaotix> is there an ubuntu 14.04 mate image?
[02:50] <usr13> pzp: What do you need?  cp ?
[02:50] <somsip> chaotix: no. You can install only from a PPA for 14.04. Not recommended http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/install-mate-desktop-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[02:50] <chaotix> ok thanks
[02:51] <chaotix> i saw ubuntu-mate, but thats 14.10
[02:51] <usr13> pzp: cp /home/pzp/Documents /media/disk/something-r-other
[02:51] <pzp> usr13: I have Ubuntu Server running in a VirtualBox VM and I need to transfer some file from it to the Host (OS X 10.8.5)
[02:51] <chaotix> and i like to wait a few months for the bugs to work out of a new release
[02:51] <pzp> usr13: Since it has limited capabilities, I think using a thumb drive would be the least invasive method
[02:51] <usr13> pzp: There is file-sharing provision in V-Box
[02:51] <somsip> chaotix: sounds like 14.10 might be better for you then
[02:52] <usr13> pzp: So use it.
[02:52] <pzp> usr13: But it requires the installation of something called Guest Additions
[02:52] <usr13> pzp: Oh yea. So install it.
[02:52] <pzp> usr13: Not so simple
[02:52] <usr13> pzp:
[02:52] <pzp> I don't have internet access in the VM, and it has certain dependancies that I would have to install in order to build it
[02:53] <pzp> so apt-get is out of the question
[02:53] <chaotix> somsip: you think?  why is that?
[02:53] <usr13> pzp: Yea, that *is* a problem.
[02:53] <pzp> usr13: My issue with the thumb drive last time was not the cp command, but apparently I mounted it with only read access
[02:54] <somsip> chaotix: you said you dont want alpha or beta. You said you can wait. So PPA does not fit what you are saying, but official release does. Still, your call
[02:54] <usr13> pzp: So, why do you not have internet?
[02:54] <pzp> So I guess I could use some help using that command
[02:54] <pzp> usr13: It's not set up in that VM
[02:54] <chaotix> somsip: thanks for the tips
[02:54] <usr13> pzp: I can tell you how to mount a USB device rw
[02:54] <somsip> chaotix: np
[02:54] <pzp> usr13: This is also a forensics challenge, so i don't want to tamper around too much in the VM itself
[02:54] <chaotix> i think i will just wait then...  i may try out mint 17 mate for now i guess
[02:54] <chaotix> i prefer ubuntu to mint, though
[02:54] <pzp> usr13: That would be much apprecitaed
[02:55] <chaotix> thanks guys
[02:55] <chaotix> g2g
[02:55] <chaotix> thanks somsip
[02:55] <chaotix> bye
[02:55] <zumba_addict> hey folks, this doesn't work
[02:55] <zumba_addict> sudo service mysql stop
[02:55] <zumba_addict> it's giving me, stop: unknown instance
[02:56] <somsip> zumba_addict: it means it's not running
[02:56] <zumba_addict> it's running
[02:56] <zumba_addict> i can see it with ps
[02:56] <zumba_addict>  9657 ?        Sl    36:04 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --plugin-dir=/usr/lib/mysql/plugin --log-error=/var/log/mysql/error.log --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock --port=3306
[02:56] <usr13> pzp: Where are you mounting it?
[02:56] <pzp> usr13: I guess in /mnt if that's okay
[02:57] <somsip> zumba_addict: doesn't look like that was started from 'sudo service' maybe that's why?
[02:57] <usr13> pzp: It goes pretty much like this:  mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda# /mnt/memstick
[02:57] <zumba_addict> ok
[02:57] <zumba_addict> i'll use killall
[02:57] <usr13> pzp: Where /mnt/memstick is the actual mount point and where /dev/sda# is the actual drive
[02:57] <zumba_addict> where can i find startup script in ubuntu
[02:58] <zumba_addict> i don't see rc.d
[02:58] <pzp> usr13: Does there have to be a memstick dir?
[02:58] <somsip> zumba_addict: /etc/init.d/mysql
[02:58] <pzp> or will it mk it for me
[02:58] <zumba_addict> cool
[02:58] <zumba_addict> successful
[02:58] <zumba_addict> :)
[02:59] <zumba_addict> now how do I prevent it from starting when this machien gets rebooted
[02:59] <zumba_addict> in redhat, I use chkconfig
[02:59] <usr13> pzp: My example was hypothetical
[03:00] <usr13> pzp: But will work if it exists.
[03:00] <keith_> Can I run any program designed for linux in ubuntu or should i get that gpartition thing?
[03:00] <pzp> usr13: I can't make /mnt itself the mount point?
[03:00] <zumba_addict> is this it? sudo update-rc.d -f <service name> disable
[03:00] <somsip> zumba_addict: looks helpful http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services
[03:00] <usr13> pzp:  Yes, but you can also just create /mnt/memstick  (sudo mkdir /mnt/memstick )
[03:00] <usr13> pzp: But it is up to you.
[03:01] <pzp> usr13: Got an error: You must specify the filesystem type
[03:01] <usr13> pzp: sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt  or sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt/memstick/
[03:02] <usr13> pzp: sudo mount -t vfat -o rw /dev/sda# /mnt  or sudo mount -t vfat -o rw /dev/sda# /mnt/memstick/
[03:02] <keith_> join #cahnnel
[03:02] <pzp> usr13: Apparently /mnt is itself read only...
[03:03] <keith_> #thing
[03:03] <usr13> pzp: Really?
[03:03] <usr13> pzp: ls -ld /mnt
[03:04] <usr13> keith_: Try a front slash
[03:05] <zumba_addict> how do i know if our ubuntu is using Upstart?
[03:05] <pzp> usr13: drwxrwxr-x 1 99 99 11 Sep 21 17:33 /mnt
[03:05] <pzp> that was the output of ls -ld /mnt
[03:05] <zumba_addict> i wanted to know if this will work for our ubuntu, sudo echo "manual" >> /etc/init/mysql.override
[03:06] <zumba_addict> i'm sure the command will execute fine but will it disable mysql from starting during the next reboot
[03:06] <usr13> pzp: Ok, so your assumption was incorrect.
[03:08] <pzp> usr13: It's not an assumption… http://i.imgur.com/jmY52rg.png
[03:09] <usr13> pzp: It was already mounted.  SO remount it.
[03:10] <usr13> sudo mount -t vfat -o remount,rw /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[03:10] <usr13> pzp: (and again, your assumption was incorrect)
[03:13] <dotnetted> hey all - I was trying to free up some space on /boot by removing an old kernel image using "apt-get -y purge some-old-kernel" --- It looks like grub failed to update something properly and now I get "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of none." when attempting to run "apt-get autoremove" -- why might this be? (the only thing I have marked as "none" in my fstab is a swap partition)
[03:14] <dotnetted> (I'm on 13.10 and was prepping for a 14.04 upgrade)
[03:14] <pzp> usr13: http://i.imgur.com/ud82vlq.png
[03:14] <pzp> Got a different error this time
[03:15] <usr13> dotnetted: uname -a  #What kernel do you have?
[03:15] <dotnetted> usr13: 3.11.0-19-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 11 18:48:34 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:15] <dotnetted> (I made sure not to remove the current kernel :) )
[03:16] <usr13> pzp: sudo fdisk -l   #Let's see what filesystem(s) you have.
[03:17] <usr13> dotnetted: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list  | pastebinit  #Send URL
[03:17] <_unreal_> pzp are you running a mac? or vnc?
[03:17] <_unreal_> vm
[03:17] <rww> dotnetted: are you running on normal bare-metal hardware, or in a container/vps/vm/etc.?
[03:18] <dotnetted> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415155/
[03:18] <pzp> usr13: http://i.imgur.com/wApeMkg.png here you go
[03:18] <dotnetted> rww: bare-metal
[03:18] <pzp> sorry for giving you images btw… i just can't copy and paste between the Guest and the Host, and it's a lot of output to have to type
[03:18] <eeee> pzp: run this sudo parted -l
[03:19] <pzp> _unreal_: The host is running OS X 10.8.5 the Guest is running Ubuntu Server 12.04.5
[03:20] <pzp> eeee: http://i.imgur.com/XLE6mxp.png
[03:20] <eeee> pzp: ok the filesystem is hfs+
[03:21] <pzp> eeee: So what should my mount command look like then?
[03:21] <eeee> has to do with mac apparently
[03:21] <pzp> eeee: I can reformat the thumb drive really fast
[03:21] <pzp> eeee: it should be FAT32?
[03:22] <eeee> http://superuser.com/questions/84446/how-to-mount-a-hfs-partition-in-ubuntu-as-read-write
[03:22] <eeee> you'll need to tinker around abit
[03:22] <eeee> pzp: format it to ext4
[03:22] <pzp> eeee: Only issue is if Mac can read ext4...
[03:23] <eeee> ok ntfs or fat32 then
[03:23] <SthNotTaken> I am using youtube-dl and it downloads something to the same folder. The filename is very long. I'd like to somehow automatically rename it to a shorter name. (Defcon\ 21\ -\ All\ Your\ RFz\ Are\ Belong\ to\ Me\ -\ Hacking\ the\ Wireless\ World\ with\ Software\ Defined\ Radio-ZuNOD3XWp4A.mp4)
[03:23] <eeee> keep in mind fat32 files can't be larger than 4gb
[03:24] <usr13> dotnetted:  Looks like you still have the kernel installed, (the one that is running now is still installed).  Right?
[03:24] <dotnetted> fstab if it helps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415187/
[03:24] <SthNotTaken> I'd like to see about breakign this file into smaller, 1mb parts.
[03:25] <SthNotTaken> how to deal with unwieldy filenames?
[03:25] <dotnetted> usr13: the current kernel shows up in the [ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list] (if that counts as installed)
[03:25] <usr13> dotnetted: Yes it does.
[03:25] <SthNotTaken> any other way to select files in dir?
[03:27] <Py331> I just installed Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS from USB and I'm getting a kernel panic not syncing. no init. Any ideas? I've googled but haven't found anything that helped. I just did a normal install.
[03:27] <dotnetted> I'm out of my depth here but am i right in thinking that apt-get purge on the old images failed to complete because grub was unable to update its config (leaving me in a half uninstalled state for those old kernels)?
[03:28] <Py331> dotnetted: are you talking to me? I'm thinking the same issue
[03:28] <pzp> eeee: Converted the drive to exFAT and I'm still getting the same error
[03:28] <dotnetted> Py331: sorry I wasn't
[03:29] <usr13> SthNotTaken: Why would you want to break up a file?
[03:29] <eeee> pzp: why exfat?
[03:29] <eeee> pzp: try ntfs
[03:29] <pzp> eeee: it had the ex part lol
[03:29] <SthNotTaken> usr13: Youtube is blocked here, connection is out 1 minute every 30
[03:30] <pzp> eeee: Not an option
[03:30] <eeee> i think you need exfat-utils and exfat-fuse to use them
[03:30] <pzp> Why is this so complicated!
[03:30] <pzp> lol
[03:31] <samthewildone> !java
[03:32] <dotnetted> usr13: do you think I'm safe rebooting with this error or is there a chance my grub is dangerously messed up? I can't do-release-upgrade with this problem since the upgrade process will attempt to clean up these old kernels and fail with the grub-probe error
[03:34] <usr13> SthNotTaken: you might need a vpn, but ask another, I have to go now.
[03:35] <usr13> dotnetted: I don't know.  Sorry.  (My brain is fried, must sleep.)  sudo apt-get install night-time && sleep && zzzzzz
[03:35] <dotnetted> usr13: thanks for your time - night
[03:37] <Bashing-om> dotnetted: Maybe check; the 4 symlinks in "ls -al /" correspond to vmlinuz and initrd.img in " ls -al /boot ??
[03:40] <eeee> dotnetted: when you run autoremove what is being removed?
[03:40] <eeee> and the none in your fstab relates to the type of the partition
[03:40] <eeee> if you type df , you'll see none mounted
[03:40] <eeee> ( or should see )
[03:42] <dotnetted> eeee: checking
[03:42] <eeee> that failed to get canonical path error happens sometimes when trying to reinstall grub on a chrooted install, without mount -B the /dev /dev/pts ..etc. filesystems
[03:42] <eeee> *without doing
[03:43] <dotnetted> Bashing-om: the symlinks match
[03:43] <henesy> No idea if this is the right place to ask about it, but a quick question about GPT and hard drives if appropriate
[03:44] <dotnetted> eeee: df : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415277/
[03:44] <natty> hi ya
[03:45] <dotnetted> eee: and autoremove is trying to remove "linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic linux-image-extra-3.8.0-35-generic"
[03:45] <Iceitic_> That might be okay, no?
[03:46] <Iceitic_> I actually worry autoremove is going to basically wipe my system as well. It's only supposed to remove things that were downloaded as a dependency for some other software that has since been removed, right?
[03:46] <Bashing-om> dotnetted: OK, can't be too bad then .. what returns " dpkg -l | grep linux-" let's have a look at what kernels are still installed.
[03:46] <dotnetted> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415155/
[03:46] <dotnetted> oops sorry sec
[03:47] <dotnetted> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415284/ << correct one
[03:49] <Zimmz> I have a general question. I am using 12.10 but its obsolete now. Should I go for 12.04 or is 14.04 good to move to? Does 14.04 have any bugs?
[03:49] <dotnetted> Am I right in thinking this might not be related to the removal of the old kernel at all? I havn't run grub-update in forever and this kernel removal needs to update grub - maybe grub just doesn't like my fstab or something
[03:51] <dotnetted> ( by "not related" I mean the cause of the error is not related to the kernel removal -- but the kernel removal won't work until grub is fixed up )
[03:51] <tmager> Zimmz: I generally move to the most recent releases when they come out -- as long as you don't get them right after the release, for the most part they aren't very buggy I don't find.
[03:52] <henesy> So with a GPT I am limited to 4 "primary" or is it "bootable" partitions? I recently had to repair my EFI on this computer due to adding a bootable partition, but I have 7 partitions as it stands. Would adding another partition and just not adding a bootloader/boot flag to the partition break it again, or would the problem arise again due to some other weird factor I'm missing?
[03:52] <Zimmz> TMAGER: So I should move to 14.04
[03:54] <tmager> Zimmz: I would say so, but that's just my take.  I don't see any particular advantage in staying with the older releases once the new ones have been out long enough that most of the bugs have been worked out of them.  On a totally unrelated note, does my user ID really come out as all caps when I use this client?
[03:54] <eeee> dotnetted: update-grub
[03:54] <eeee> dotnetted: try that and see what errors you get
[03:54] <dotnetted> eee: gives me: "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of none."
[03:55] <dotnetted> Ill get the correct number of e's in your name eventually :)
[03:56] <Zimmz> TMAGER: nopes. its not in caps. its in all small letters. thats just my way of writing TMAGER :p
[03:56] <SthNotTaken> How to install 7zip on 14.04 by terminal?
[03:56] <felty> hey
[03:56] <Bashing-om> dotnetted: eeee ::I do not see how grub and fstab can be related. But, we do need to fix the /boot directory and get grub updateing. What is the vmlinuz.old and initrd.img.old symlinks pointing to ?// on your df output; is that with the change root in effect ?
[03:56] <felty> how can i use LISP in ubuntu?
[03:57] <tmager> Zimmz: ok, thanks -- the Pidgin client seems to act a little wonky sometimes
[03:58] <dotnetted> Bashing-om: symlinks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415332/
[03:58] <Penguiness> Any gurus here?
[03:58] <Penguiness> I'm trying to mount an xraid from a dead readynas
[03:59] <tmager> SthNotTaken: I think the package is called p7zip-full, so do sudo apt-get install p7zip-full -- alternatively try running 7zip in the terminal and seeing what package it recommends
[03:59] <SthNotTaken> tmager: I'm using it now.
[03:59] <xangua> !info p7zip-full | SthNotTaken
[03:59] <felty> does anyone know how to use LISP in ubuntu?
[03:59] <dotnetted> Bashing-om: not sure what you mean in regards to the "df" change root being in effect though
[03:59] <SthNotTaken> sudo apt-get install p7zip-full
[03:59] <SthNotTaken> and I'm reading this to figure out how to use it: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man1/7z.1.html
[04:00] <eeee> Bashing-om: yes i agree fstab is unrelated, i was pointing out that the none in fstab is an option thats all
[04:00] <SthNotTaken> v{Size}[b|k|m|g] Create volumes means "break it into pieces" ?
[04:00] <eeee> dotnetted: paste bin /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[04:01] <felty> anyone know how to programming LISP in Ubuntu?
[04:01] <dotnetted> eeee: /boot/grub/grub.cfg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415348/
[04:02] <somsip> !find lisp | felty
[04:02] <ITChap> Hi everyone
[04:02] <reisio> SthNotTaken: what're you 7z'ing for?
[04:02] <reisio> ITChap: hi
[04:02] <SthNotTaken> reisio: I need to break a 600mb file down to 10mb volumes.
[04:02] <SthNotTaken> 7z a -v{10}m, I think
[04:03] <reisio> SthNotTaken: split -b 10M
[04:03] <SthNotTaken> I also need to put a password on it
[04:03] <felty> how to find lisp?
[04:03] <felty> iti down's work in terminal
[04:03] <reisio> or -b 10m, at least
[04:03] <dotnetted> eeee: so it looks like the 3.8.0-35 menu entry shouldn't be in there - just cant get grub-update to run to remove it heh
[04:03] <reisio> SthNotTaken: ah
[04:03] <eeee> yeah your current kernel is there though
[04:03] <reisio> SthNotTaken: 7z a -mx=0 -mhe=on -v10m -p foo.7z file
[04:04] <eeee> is the 3.8.0-35 still installed?
[04:04] <dotnetted> eeee: yep - have no problems with current kernel -- but I can't do-release-upgrade with grub-update failing to run
[04:04] <Zimmz> This is a good source of Ubuntu 14.04 http://howtoubuntu.org/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr#partners
[04:04] <SthNotTaken> what is mx=0?
[04:04] <SthNotTaken> and -mhe=on?
[04:04] <reisio> SthNotTaken: no compression
[04:04] <reisio> SthNotTaken: encrypt TOC also
[04:04] <dotnetted> eeee: Package: linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic State: partially installed
[04:04] <SthNotTaken> where did you find those 2 switches?
[04:05] <reisio> lotuspsychje: stock management, interesting...
[04:05] <reisio> SthNotTaken: they're in man 7z somewhere
[04:05] <SthNotTaken> WHOA
[04:05] <SthNotTaken> That's an awesome command
[04:05] <SthNotTaken> thanks
[04:05] <reisio> that's how I always use 7z
[04:05] <eeee> dotnetted: try sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic
[04:05] <reisio> better things for compression, so -mx=0
[04:06] <reisio> -mhe=on is something anyone would want with -p if they knew about it
[04:06] <SthNotTaken> -pHUNTER2 foo.7z file
[04:06] <SthNotTaken> right?
[04:06] <reisio> SthNotTaken: you could :p but
[04:06] <reisio> SthNotTaken: if you just do -p it prompts you for a pass
[04:06] <reisio> and you don't have to store it in your shell history
[04:06] <reisio> or show it on your screen
[04:06] <dotnetted> eeee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415380/ -- same error
[04:06] <nonicknotheodore> wow ubuntu is great! just installed it and i get a 1 click restricted extras!!!
[04:06] <SthNotTaken> later I will do this with exec() from PHP
[04:06] <reisio> SthNotTaken: okay :p
[04:06] <sing> Hi, I can't find the package for "prlimit" on ubuntu, it should be in util-linux but it's not there
[04:06] <reisio> SthNotTaken: could potentially use openssl more simply for encryption, from php
[04:07] <SthNotTaken> reisio: not an option for me
[04:07] <reisio> SthNotTaken: fair enough
[04:07] <SthNotTaken> Thanks for understanding. I'm winded from explaining myself 4x over
[04:08] <eeee> dotnetted: i'd try to restart the pc, but that's me, and assuming you have a liveusb if it doesn't boot again
[04:08] <dotnetted> eeee: it's a remotely hosted production server :(
[04:08] <nonicknotheodore> is there a way to get to nasa with a click?
[04:08] <dotnetted> and the IPMI console is broken until it restarts heh (which it may not)
[04:09] <SthNotTaken> Is there a way to select all of the files which start with "foo" in the current directory?
[04:10] <nonicknotheodore> oh no, that's "linux" right?
[04:10] <reisio> SthNotTaken: foo*
[04:10] <somsip> nonicknotheodore: it's ubuntu, but questions abotu nasa probably belong elsewhere
[04:10] <somsip> *about
[04:10] <reisio> SthNotTaken: or if you have dirs that start with foo also and want to ignore them: find . -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -type f -iname 'foo*'
[04:11] <Bashing-om> dotnetted: eeee :: humm .. there is no XXX.old images ! avalable in /boot .. the symlinks point both to the same image .. I have never encounted such. Recon if we were to re-install "rH  linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic" It would correct this condition ?
[04:11] <SthNotTaken> reisio: I'm writing all of these down
[04:11] <nonicknotheodore> actually it's Debian and i respect that
[04:11] <eeee> Bashing-om: yeah i was thinking what if we reinstall it
[04:11] <Zimmz> This is my partition currently. I need to make another partition for my personal data like movies etc. How do I do that?
[04:12] <Zimmz> http://tinypic.com/r/f35gg9/8
[04:12] <eeee> I'm a little doubtful though, as it seems it has to do with something else
[04:12] <reisio> SthNotTaken: now...
[04:12] <somsip> !home | Zimmz (this might not be the right hint...)
[04:12] <Zimmz> I need to make it like C drive for the OS and D drive for the data
[04:12] <eeee> dotnetted: give it a shot
[04:12] <reisio> SthNotTaken: a gotcha with 7z on Unix is that it doesn't do complex archives
[04:12] <somsip> Zimmz: that's the right link
[04:12] <SthNotTaken> reisio: 7z here is the same as Windows 7z, yeah?
[04:13] <SthNotTaken> I mean, i should be able to combine these?
[04:13] <reisio> SthNotTaken: so if you 7z up a dir with some contents and extract it, you'll actually end up with a dir and the files... not in the dir
[04:13] <reisio> SthNotTaken: what you'd want to do is use tar, and then 7z that for encryption
[04:13] <nonicknotheodore> really, u don't go debian why not mint?
[04:13] <xangua> Zimmz: backup, boot live iso, gparted, resize
[04:13] <dotnetted> eeee: so try to reinstall it? (that won't try to do anything funky like swap out my current image would it heh? )
[04:13] <Zimmz> SOMSIP: it is. you can try this too http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=f35gg9&s=8#.VCJE4HazDFA
[04:13] <SthNotTaken> Only files will be zipped.
[04:13] <Zimmz> XANGUA: Thanks
[04:13] <reisio> SthNotTaken: so tar -cf foo.tar foo*; 7z a -mx=0 -mhe=on -p -v10m foo.tar.7z foo.tar
[04:13] <reisio> SthNotTaken: ok :)
[04:13] <Bashing-om> eeee: dotnetted :: I really think we need to re-establish those XXX.old symlinks .
[04:14] <xangua> Zimmz: or you could take the opportunity of make a home partition as you were told
[04:14] <fantasma> hola a todos los q ablen español
[04:15] <eeee> dotnetted: i've no idea, if i were you i would save grub.cfg in case, ( if you wanted to go ahead with it )
[04:15] <dotnetted> The weird thing is that I onyl ran one command to cause this problem: [dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge] (I did check to make sure it only selected the old kernel)
[04:16] <eeee> O.o
[04:16] <dotnetted> which technically just ran [apt-get -y purge  linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic]
[04:16] <Zimmz> I just want to make a partition that has no OS. Like I had when I had Windows. I could play with C, upgrade etc but the D drive stays there
[04:16] <Zimmz> What should be the filesystem of the new drive?
[04:16] <dotnetted> (well & headers for the exact same version)
[04:16] <xangua> A home partition "stays there" Zimmz
[04:17] <Bashing-om> dotnetted: eeee :: but what is left in /boot is but 1 kernel image, and the symlinks from / for booting I think are now broken as there is no .old images .
[04:17] <SthNotTaken> 'ls -l foo.*' matches all the files I want to move to a remote directory. how do I go about that?
[04:17] <function9> Hi guys, I'm trying to create a live dvd with this command: mkisofs -D -r -V "$IMAGE_NAME" -cache-inodes -J -l -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -o ../ubuntu.iso   But I'm getting this error: genisoimage: Missing pathspec.
[04:17] <SillyKnight> Hi Bashing-om:
[04:17] <function9> wth???
[04:18] <SillyKnight> I managed to get desktop env back
[04:18] <dotnetted> Bashing-om: the symlinks still look fine (http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415332/)
[04:18] <Bashing-om> SillyKnight: Looked for you earlier. How is it coming out ?
[04:19] <fantasma> q pess nadie abla español
[04:19] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: So I tried apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:19] <SillyKnight> then installed nvidia-current
[04:19] <Elimin8er> Question, When I run pbuilder-dist utopic build qbittorrent_3.2.0alpha-1ubuntu13.dsc, I get this: make[1]: *** No rule to make target '/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++-64/qmake.conf', needed by 'Makefile'.  Stop. ??? I have the directory/file in question. I can compile with no problems. just building for ppa doesnt seem to work. at least the compile part.
[04:20] <function9> Elimin8er: make sure it's the right syntax in your make file, you could have a typo???
[04:21] <dotnetted> the worst part is that all I wanted to do was free up 200mb from /boot to upgrade to 14.04 lol - why oh why did I have to pick the older kernel
[04:22] <SthNotTaken> ubuntu14.04, how do I show currenet path?
[04:22] <Bashing-om> dotnetted: See my output for comparison, that the .old symlinks point to a different image as .old. you have no old images to point to (??) http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415445/http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415445/ , http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415446/ .
[04:22] <Elimin8er> function9, what do you mean? I have the file in question.. what do I need to be looking for.. im Dont mean to sound like a newbi. but im trying to learn this crap for future projects.
[04:22] <sudormrf> hello all
[04:22] <sudormrf> I am having trouble understanding how to setup a vhost
[04:23] <Bashing-om> SillyKnight: That was in reference to "nvidia-Prime" ?
[04:23] <sudormrf> can someone in here help me understand better what is necessary to do so?
[04:23] <dotnetted> Bashing-om: ah I see (thanks foe the time btw)
[04:23] <somsip> sudormrf: a vhost for what?
[04:23] <sudormrf> somsip: I am trying to setup ampache
[04:23] <somsip> sudormrf: version?
[04:23] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: Not quite, actually, nvidia-current
[04:23] <sudormrf> somsip: ampache 3.7.0 on ubuntu 12.04.
[04:24] <somsip> !info apache2 | precise
[04:24] <Bashing-om> SillyKnight: All is good now ?
[04:24] <somsip> sudormrf: incorrect version of apache. Which one is it really?
[04:24] <sudormrf> somsip: ampache, not apache
[04:24] <somsip> sudormrf: lol - no idea. Never heard of it.
[04:24] <sudormrf> somsip: it is like subsonic
[04:25] <somsip> sudormrf: I can't help. I just thought you had a typo for apache
[04:25] <function9> Elimin8er: it's looking for the qmake.conf file, you need to have that installed
[04:25] <sudormrf> somsip: oh.  http://ampache.org
[04:25] <sudormrf> fyi :D
[04:25] <SthNotTaken> find / -iname "foo.*" -exec /bin/mv {} ../var/www/html/img says "missing argument to '-exec'
[04:25] <somsip> !info ampache
[04:26] <sudormrf> somsip: if you know how to setup a vhost, that may be enough.  I don’t have the knowledge.  I looked up different tutorials, but it didn’t make sense to me
[04:26] <Bashing-om> dotnetted: I think we can re-install the " linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic " and repoint the .old symlink to that image. then finish cleaning up the old versions of the kernels, and then maybe you can 'update-grub' .
[04:26] <somsip> sudormrf: still looks like an unsupported version. Where did you get 3.7 from?
[04:26] <sudormrf> somsip: from their git.  the version on the ubuntu repos is OLD
[04:26] <sudormrf> very old
[04:26] <sudormrf> heh
[04:26] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: Seems running fine. But getting pop-up error time to time saying cupsd, compiz, or xorg problem and so on. Quick question, when I echo $DESKTOP_SESSION, it is supposed show gnome or alike right? But I get ubuntu.
[04:26] <somsip> sudormrf: unofficial software is not supported here. I can't help. Good luck
[04:27] <eeee> dotnetted: any progress?
[04:27] <sudormrf> somsip: ok.  well can you help me understand vhosts and how to create them in a more general sense?
[04:27] <eeee> dotnetted: try sudo apt-get install -f ( wont hurt )
[04:27] <Elimin8er> function9, I have that installed.. I can compile with no problem.. just cant set it to work for ppa for some reason.. im running it right now.. I just want to package it and put it on my private ppa
[04:27] <dotnetted> eee: ill give that a try in a sec -- think I found something very related @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1279658
[04:27] <Ben64> sudormrf: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/
[04:27] <Elimin8er> but I cant put it on my ppa when it keeps telling me build field. because of that
[04:28] <Elimin8er> failed even
[04:28] <sudormrf> Ben64: I looked at that….it is incredibly brief
[04:28] <Bashing-om> SillyKnight: Humm, yeah, I woulkd think that "ubuntu' is the unity $DESKTOP . I run also xfce and get that response, and I get 'ubuntu3d' on my unity install.
[04:28] <Ben64> sudormrf: you can click on each thing
[04:28] <sudormrf> Ben64: checking again
[04:29] <SthNotTaken> I have many files named foo.7z.001, foo.7z.002, etc. How would I use wget to get all of them?
[04:29] <Ben64> SthNotTaken: if you have them, why would you need to use wget
[04:29] <function9> Elimin8er: file permissions ok on it?
[04:30] <SthNotTaken> Ben64: sorry, they're on someone else's machine.
[04:30] <SthNotTaken> I mis-spoke
[04:30] <dotnetted> eee: is there something special I need to do to get the image to install? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415473/
[04:30] <Ben64> SthNotTaken: wget http://internetstuff/foo.7z.{000-999}
[04:30] <Ben64> SthNotTaken: wget http://internetstuff/foo.7z.{000..999}
[04:31] <SthNotTaken> the second?
[04:31] <Ben64> SthNotTaken: the second one yeah
[04:31] <SthNotTaken> thanks, Ben64
[04:31] <somsip> sudormrf: wget file.??? (assume 3 digits)
[04:31] <Ben64> but you probably want to change the numbers to the actual ones
[04:31] <eeee> dotnetted: i meant sudo apt-get install -f , alone it checks for missing dependencies and tries to fix broken packages i think
[04:31] <Elimin8er> function9, the machine on launchpad is getting the same error as I am.. thats what I dont get.. I have the files and I can compile straight with no problem and run it.. but when I use the bzr way to package this program. then test it with pbuilder it doesnt work for me nor the machine on launchpad.....
[04:31] <SthNotTaken> 000..070 would work?
[04:31] <Ben64> SthNotTaken: indeed
[04:31] <sudormrf> Ben64: that page is different than what I am seeing
[04:32] <dotnetted> eeee: ah ok thanks
[04:32] <sudormrf> but I think I can tweak it
[04:32] <sudormrf> somsip: ?
[04:32] <Elimin8er> its always the same error
[04:32] <sudormrf> already downloaded and untared
[04:32] <Elimin8er> no mater what I do
[04:32] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: Yeah, checked XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity,
[04:32] <eeee> yeah, it only fixes dependencies
[04:32] <Elimin8er> I even checked the dep's and made sure I had them all listed
[04:32] <eeee> dotnetted: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:32] <dotnetted> eeee: nope - still wants to remove the image/headers and not install anything
[04:32] <eeee> maybe, who knows
[04:33] <Bashing-om> SillyKnight: And at the login prompt you are choosing which session ?
[04:33] <dotnetted> eeee: heh it wants to upgrade 1091 packages heh
[04:33] <eeee> lol
[04:33] <function9> Elimin8er: I wish I could help looking into your source, but I'm kinda in a pickle atm creating my custom live ubuntu dvd. :(
[04:33] <dotnetted> (part of the reason why I was trying to 14.04 upgrade)
[04:34] <Elimin8er> function9, its ok man,, thanks for trying anyhow...
[04:34] <Elimin8er> il figure it out one day
[04:34] <Elimin8er> I dont give up easy
[04:35] <roasted> hello
[04:35] <Moonlightning> This is weird.
[04:35] <Moonlightning> I seem to have both a root shell and the usual `login` running on a single tty.
[04:35] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: I didn't pay attention to. Does that have anything to do with greeter? I don't quite understand what greeter means. But I noticed that I got a kdm_greeter fail error a while ago.
[04:35] <roasted> Question - it seems when I change my background image, the transparency of notify-osd bubbles changes to correspond with the wallpaper colors/darkness. Is there a way to not have this happen? My image is sending the background of the bubbles too light.
[04:35] <Moonlightning> Also a bunch of messages abotu a hung `login`.
[04:36] <sudormrf> Ben64: ok so I inserted some virtual host stuff and now it is saying there is an error <VirtualHost> not closed
[04:36] <Moonlightning> And…a tainted kernel? O.o
[04:36] <sudormrf> however I did close it
[04:36] <eeee> dotnetted: yeah, odd how this happened though
[04:36] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: Is it possible to check which session I am on after login?
[04:36] <eeee> dotnetted: i've no idea
[04:37] <Bashing-om> SillyKnight: I am "assuming" you have installed additional desktops besides 'unity' ?/ as such at the log in if you click on the ubuntu icon -upper right of the box - one can choose the session.
[04:37] <eeee> dotnetted: i got that error trying to reinstall grub without mounting /dev etc. but you didn't unmount anything.. so..
[04:38] <dotnetted> eeee: the only mount related thing i did recently was remounting /tmp from noexec,... to "defaults"
[04:38] <function9> ahh I solve my problem :)
[04:38] <function9> later guys
[04:38] <Bashing-om> SillyKnight: check " /etc/X11/default-display-manager " .
[04:39] <openCholby> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[04:41] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: Yeah, I should have installed multiple desktops. I remember installer asked me to choose between gdm and lightdm.
[04:41] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: /usr/sbin/lightdm
[04:41] <dotnetted> " grub-probe -vv /swap" should work right?
[04:41] <Bashing-om> SillyKnight: Then you are running unity .
[04:41] <eeee> dotnetted: can you paste bin mount ?
[04:42] <dotnetted> eeee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415545/
[04:42] <sudormrf> I am lost
[04:42] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: Yeah echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP shows Unity
[04:43] <SillyKnight> too
[04:44] <jishjish> hi all,  i accidently messed around with user accounts on ubuntu, and now i only have one user account named s (with no password as it's disabled.) Is there anything I can do to elevate myself to a administrator?
[04:44] <eeee> dotnetted: maybe it has to do with /tmp ? a lot of the none are mounted on /tmp
[04:44] <dotnetted> eeee: Those aufs lines don't look normal....
[04:45] <dotnetted> I wonder if then do-release-upgrade failed (due to out-of-space on /boot) if it left some aufs stuff mounted
[04:45] <mxmy6iziiq2> jishjish: use a boot cd to remove the shadow and passwd files and then you should be able to root with no password
[04:45] <eeee> dotnetted: try mount -a -o remount
[04:45] <jishjish> mxmy6iziiq2: where are the shadow and password files?
[04:45] <Ben64> jishjish: don't do that
[04:46] <mxmy6iziiq2> jishjish: in the /etc folder
[04:46] <Ben64> mxmy6iziiq2: don't suggest that
[04:46] <eeee> dotnetted: i don't know if it'll help, it should remount everything that is in fstab
[04:46] <dotnetted> eeee: did it - same "mount" output
[04:46] <jishjish> Ben64: what should I do then?
[04:46] <Ben64> jishjish: boot in recovery mode and you can reset passwords the correct way, and add a new user if you want
[04:46] <dotnetted> maybe I need to somehow unmount these aufs lines - I think they will get auto-killed on reboot but now I cant safely reboot lol
[04:47] <jishjish> Ben64: how do I boot into recovery mode, I think there is only one partition?
[04:47] <SDr> hi guys, using openbox, when switching workspace (using keyboard ctrl+alt+left/right), wine-opened apps fail to be re-activated (their windows become un-responsive). any ideas why this might be?
[04:47] <Ben64> jishjish: its an option on the grub screen when booting. you may need to hit shift during boot up to see it
[04:47] <jishjish> SDr: in my experience some apps just crash using wine, can you maybe find a linux replacement, otherwise dual boot windows?
[04:48] <jishjish> Ben64: ok, so once I boot into this mode, how do I reset passwords and remove users I don't want/need?
[04:48] <pavlos> jishjish, http://askubuntu.com/questions/150367/how-do-i-boot-into-recovery-mode
[04:48] <mxmy6iziiq2> SDr: or use kvm or qemu to virtual boot windows
[04:48] <Ben64> jishjish: passwd, adduser
[04:50] <eeee> dotnetted: you could do this sudo umount -a -t aufs
[04:50] <eeee> should unmount all the aufs stuff
[04:50] <dotnetted> eeee: "device is busy" on all aufs
[04:50] <eeee> but i don't know if it wont mess anything up..
[04:51] <dotnetted> lsof aufs
[04:51] <jishjish> Ben64: what about removing users, I think i probably created a bunch of users I no longer need?
[04:51] <dotnetted> oops
[04:51] <Ben64> jishjish: deluser
[04:51] <felty> no more room in hell
[04:52] <jishjish> Ben64: thanks
[04:52] <dotnetted> errrr so does this mean that do-release-upgrade failed and left my /var , /usr, /etc, /and /bin directories mounted to some crazy in-memory fake filesystem...
[04:52] <dotnetted> and by doing so prevents me from running update-grub in order to reboot...
[04:53] <dotnetted> ... yay
[04:53] <eeee> you ran do-release-upgrade ?
[04:53] <dotnetted> at the very beginning of all of this that's what I was trying to do -- but I didnt have enough space on /boot and it failed
[04:53] <jishjish> Ben64: lastly when I messed around with users the applications I installed are still all there but the unity ones that I docked are not. Are things like that user prefs - do they get deleted with the user account?
[04:53] <dotnetted> so I removed an old kernel image and update-grub failed leaving the old kernel image in half-installed state
[04:54] <eeee> dotnetted: you could force unmount the filesystem if you want
[04:54] <eeee> dotnetted: btw if you reboot and it doesn't start back up, how devastating would that be?
[04:54] <dotnetted> but it looks like the initial do-release-upgrade failure left those directories mounted as aufs - kinda screwing me since update-grub cant run to complete the old kernal removal (unless im completely wrong)
[04:55] <dotnetted> eeee: it would be very bad :) - remotely hosted high-traffic server with a broken IPMI
[04:55] <eeee> dotnetted: try to run do-release-upgrade again
[04:55] <eeee> dotnetted: it might take care of the filesystems, and install
[04:55] <Ben64> jishjish: those things are usually in the user's home directory so if those are gone, yeah
[04:55] <eeee> i'd try do-release-upgrade
[04:56] <dotnetted> eeee: tried it, it fails because it needs to remove the old kernel (well dpkg does)
[04:57] <eeee> dotnetted: it's really up to you, you could try to force unmount them
[04:57] <dotnetted> so I guess I can either forcefully unmount those aufs (who knows what that'll do heh) or I reboot
[04:57] <eeee> i don't know what that'd do though
[04:57] <eeee> yeah
[04:57] <dotnetted> eeee: thanks for your time by the way
[04:57] <best> hola
[04:58] <best> Alguien hispano hablante
[04:58] <eeee> or maybe reinstall linux-image-3.8.0- , ( very long shot though )
[04:58] <eeee> dotnetted: no problem
[04:58] <dotnetted> eeee: won't let me reinstall it - it seems to require the half-installed versions to be removed first
[04:59] <eeee> did you try apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.8.0-
[04:59] <dotnetted> mm nope  - time to try that
[04:59] <bimberi> !es | best
[05:00] <dotnetted> "Reinstallation of linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic is not possible, it cannot be downloaded." - lol
[05:00] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: Thanks! Will come back tomorrow to fix other problems..
[05:00] <xangua> dotnetted: what ubuntu release is this?
[05:00] <dotnetted> 13.10 - but you may have missed some extra craziness mentioned above heh
[05:01] <xangua> dotnetted: crazy or not,13.10 is not supported
[05:02] <dotnetted> xangua: my entire conversation here was me attempting to upgrade to 14.10 and "do-release-upgrade" screwed me
[05:02] <brokengrub> hi everybody
[05:02] <dotnetted> 14.04 even :)
[05:02] <brokengrub> could any body help me install and repair grub?
[05:02] <brokengrub> I get this error: grub-install: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for RAID and LVM install.
[05:03] <brokengrub> usr13, I am the same guy yesterday!
[05:03] <brokengrub> now I am on the same pc I am trying to fix\
[05:03] <brokengrub> and i get this message: grub-install: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for RAID and LVM install.
[05:04] <eeee> dotnetted: more info about your  predicament https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-March/027747.html
[05:04] <dotnetted> eeee: thanks a bunch
[05:04] <eeee> talks about using aufs as an overlay filesystem layer for release upgrades
[05:05] <brokengrub> exit
[05:06] <eeee> dotnetted: seems that's when they were still inventing it or something, it's used to make a fake upgrade, that upon reboot will be removed
[05:07] <eeee> at least that's what i got out of it
[05:07] <eeee> maybe they used that as a temporary thing to ensure the system is up to date before writing the upgrade?
[05:07] <eeee> ( they ended up integrating it into the actual do-release-upgrade )
[05:08] <eeee> like if you reboot now, maybe it'll just go back to pre-upgrade state?
[05:08] <eeee> i'd look into that
[05:08] <dotnetted> eeee: well unfortunately the old linux image is missing now but I bet the grub file still points to it (actually yeah it does)
[05:09] <dotnetted> but i cant fix grub because of these mounts :(
[05:09] <eeee> maybe we need to see what force unmounting them would do
[05:09] <xangua> dotnetted: you just need to change your source list to point to -old
[05:10] <dotnetted> xangua: where abouts?
[05:10] <eeee> xangua: i think the error earlier about the linux image was due to it being unavailable, as in obsolete
[05:10] <sudormrf> any reason why ampache 3.7.0 is not in the repos?  current version is 3.7.0, but repos are showing an alpha version
[05:10] <eeee> dotnetted: check /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:11] <xangua> dotnetted: did you read the part in !eol upgrade instructions where it says to change your source list to -old ones?
[05:11] <dotnetted> eeee: even if I was able to reinstall the old image update-grub will still fail due to the mounted aufs wont it?
[05:11] <dotnetted> leaving the packages in half-installed states
[05:12] <dotnetted> xangua: the sources are not the problem here at all - I attempted to purge an old kernel and the grub update failed due to mounted aufs left over from do-release-upgrade
[05:12] <eeee> xangua: he upgraded fine, it's just that he didn't have enough space in /boot , and that caused the upgrade to fail and cause other issues ( can't update-grub due to a failed to get canonical path of none ) and half a dozen none mounted as aufs which seem to be related to the upgrade process
[05:13] <eeee> dotnetted: yeah i think so, reinstalling linux image is a very long shot
[05:13] <eeee> most likely it will fail as well
[05:14] <dotnetted> if I manage to get the old kernel reinstalled and it'll want to run grub-update is there any way for me to tell dpkg that everything is OK and to mark it as installed again heh
[05:14] <dotnetted> like force it to an installed state (assuming the only ommitted post-uninstall step that failed was grub-update)
[05:17] <eeee> dotnetted: if you do cat /etc/issue
[05:17] <eeee> what do you get right now?
[05:17] <dotnetted> eeee: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[05:17] <dotnetted> maybe I should spin up an amazon box with 13.10 and "do-release-upgrade -s" then try to force unmount the aufs and see what happens heh
[05:18] <eeee> i could try it in a vm i guess
[05:20] <dotnetted> eeee: I have one running w/ 13.10 - ill try to reproduce it exactly by filling up my /boot partition, running do-release-upgrade until failure, killing an old kernel w/ purge (hopefully it errors out w/ grub-update failure) and then test unmoutning aufs
[05:20] <eeee> dotnetted: ok
[05:21] <dotnetted> eeee: wont work w/ amazons virtualization :(
[05:21] <dotnetted> mount: unknown filesystem type 'aufs'
[05:22] <eeee> you're trying to unmount them?
[05:23] <dotnetted> nah - trying to run [do-release-upgrade -s] -- fails to create the sandbox environment
[05:23] <eeee> oh ok
[05:24] <dotnetted> (which should create the aufs -- im pretty sure I never ran do-re**de with "-s" on the screwed up server but at least "-s" guarantees mounting of aufs)
[05:25] <dotnetted> that's a pretty scary "sandbox" mode for do-release-upgrade lol -- requires a reboot on failure or you get stuck with all the imported dirs mounted into memory lol
[05:25] <dotnetted> important*
[05:26] <S1mPl3Man> Nice
[05:27] <dotnetted> k I guess I should forcefully amount these babies
[05:28] <eeee> dotnetted: i'm trying to see something on google about it
[05:28] <eeee> no luck yet though
[05:29] <dotnetted> eeee: since /var is now mounted to aufs does that mean that all mysql data is being written to a temporary /var/lib/mysql copy?
[05:29] <dotnetted> I really really hope not lol
[05:32] <Utmankhail> need help joining windows7 to samba domain ?
[05:33] <Utmankhail> is there anyone to help me ?
[05:33] <hateball> Utmankhail: Ask your real question
[05:34] <hateball> !ask
[05:37] <eeee> dotnetted: wait a sec, you used do-release-upgrade -s , for the sandbox mode right?
[05:37] <eeee> dotnetted: cause i came across failed upgrades from 13.10, and the upgrader says that /boot is full at the very start and just cancels the upgrade
[05:38] <eeee> so did you upgrade using -s ?
[05:40] <dotnetted> checking command histroy it looks like I did it earlier in the day (misunderstood the implications of the sandbox)
[05:40] <dotnetted> with -s
[05:40] <dotnetted> which explaisn the aufs
[05:40] <eeee> so that's not something that the upgrader usually uses
[05:40] <eeee> i think, force unmounting them would be ok
[05:41] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[05:41] <eeee> ( im not sure though! )
[05:41] <HikaruBG> what is DKMS?
[05:41] <jishjish> Ben64: what command can I use to see the current user accounts on the system (when I go into the gui it only shows one standard) one but I don't remember any of the passwords I set for any of the users.
[05:41] <dotnetted> eeee: ok here goes nothing :)
[05:41] <eeee> dotnetted: you can try to lazy unmount them first
[05:42] <dotnetted> sudo umount -a -t -l aufs ?
[05:42] <eeee> sudo umount -a -l -t aufs
[05:43] <dotnetted> im still alive
[05:43] <eeee> hehe
[05:43] <bashfr3ak> jishjish cat /etc/passwd
[05:43] <dotnetted> and update-grub worked!
[05:43] <eeee> cool
[05:44] <dotnetted> lol now I still need another 300mb on /boot to upgrade lol
[05:44] <dotnetted> back to square 1
[05:45] <eeee> remove the linux-image-3.8
[05:45] <dotnetted> eeee: thanks again for all the help - would be a mangled mess without your tips
[05:45] <eeee> dotnetted: no problem
[05:46] <dotnetted> looks like 3.8 was already removed form /boot
[05:46] <eeee> ah right
[05:47] <dotnetted> funny thing though... apt-get autoclean gives: "E: Unable to change to (unreachable)/lib/dpkg/info/ - chdir (2: No such file or directory)"
[05:47] <eeee> why's it full though
[05:47] <jishjish> eeee: can you help me with my users problem: I've managed to remove the administrator user I had and now I only have one standard user and have forgot it's password. Ben kindly told me to boot into recovery (but I've forgotten what key that is ~ shift didn't work for me?). Also what is the command to see all available users in terminal I believe th
[05:47] <jishjish> ere should only be one, named s, but maybe there is more.
[05:49] <eeee> jishjish: hold shift > you'll get grub > press e to edit the entry for ubuntu, add "init=/bin/bash" at the end of the line that starts with Linux /boot/vmlinuz..."
[05:49] <dotnetted> what's the best way to analyze space usage in /boot? df -h shows 2 entries for /boot -- 1 with "/dev/sda1" and 1 with "none" (both have 453M total space which seems a little low)
[05:49] <eeee> jishjish: press ctrl+x to execute it, you'll get a root shell, remount as read-write, mount -o remount,rw /
[05:50] <jishjish> eeee: you lost me after hold shift and you
[05:50] <jishjish> *'ll get recovery options.
[05:50] <dotnetted> oh lol I still have 1 aufs left for /boot
[05:51] <eeee> jishjish: when you hold shift, you'll get the grub menu, you'll see an entry for your ubuntu installation, and maybe advanced options etc.
[05:51] <dotnetted> ran a lazy umount of aufs again and /boot is back to 111G :)
[05:51] <eeee> jishjish: press "e" over your ubuntu's installation
[05:51] <eeee> dotnetted: great :)
[05:53] <eeee> jishjish: to see who's logged on you can type who
[05:54] <dotnetted> I still seem to have a duplicated mount for my tmpfs mounted as none (/var/mysqltmp on /tmp/upgrade-rw-0f1eHb/needs_bind_mount/var/mysqltmp type none (rw,bind)) -- think it's safe to unmount -a -t /var/mysqltmp?
[05:54] <jishjish> eeee: it says s (which is the user name three times, one with tty7 one with pts/0 and another third line with pts/1
[05:55] <jishjish> in terminal is there a command to see what kind of user is identified by the "who" command?
[05:55] <eeee> jishjish: you want to know if he has sudo?
[05:55] <eeee> groups <user>
[05:55] <jishjish> eeee: i'm quite sure he is standard but yes, that's what I want to check please
[05:56] <eeee> and sudo -l , will list what he can do
[05:57] <eeee> dotnetted: no idea
[05:57] <jishjish> the username appears to be s, when I type groups s I get returned "s : s". Only problem with sudo -l for me is I don't know the password to s (standard account).
[05:58] <eeee> jishjish: which account are you using right now?
[05:58] <jishjish> s
[05:58] <jishjish> a standard account
[05:58] <Flannel> jishjish: You just want to see the groups the user is in?  "groups user" will list them.
[05:58] <eeee> ok sudo -l will just mention what he can do with regards to sudo
[05:59] <eeee> ( if he can run what commands and if without knowing the password )
[05:59] <Flannel> jishjish: Oh, you saw that.  If the user is only a member of his own group, then he's not a member of any other group (such as admin).  What's your question?
[05:59] <jishjish> eeee: sudo -l asks for password (which I don;t know)
[06:00] <eeee> jishjish: you need to do as i outlined above to get your password back ( hold shift, etc. )
[06:00] <eeee> Flannel: he locked himself out
[06:00] <jishjish> eeee: can you repeat those steps. step1. I boot into recovery open a terminal. then?
[06:00] <eeee> Flannel: trying to see if he had given himself any access without passwd
[06:01] <Flannel> eeee: Yeah, just found that.  Looks like you're on it, so I'll leave you to it.
[06:01] <eeee> Flannel: ok
[06:02] <eeee> jishjish: hold shift while the pc boots until a grub menu appears
[06:02] <eeee> jishjish: is this in a vm?
[06:02] <jishjish> eeee: no it's not sadly
[06:02] <eeee> well that's better
[06:02] <eeee> :)
[06:03] <jishjish> eeee: really I thought people like me were meant to practice there loads first
[06:03] <eeee> no, just back up your stuff regularly
[06:04] <eeee> jishjish: it's that in a vm sometimes its hard to get the grub menu by pressing shift while it boots
[06:04] <eeee> jishjish: that's why i asked, and since it's not a vm it should be pretty easy to get grub
[06:04] <jishjish> eeee: press or hold? I got it the first time but since then it's been going straight into os.
[06:04] <eeee> hold
[06:06] <jishjish> ok, sorry for babying me but I am learning commands. once I am in grub recovery menu and in a terminal. what next?
[06:06] <eeee> yeah, grub will only appear if you hold shift, the next time you boot it won't appear
[06:06] <jishjish> eeee: oh? how do I get it to appear again?
[06:06] <eeee> don't use the recovery, it asks for the password most likely
[06:06] <eeee> jishjish: by pressing shift
[06:06] <eeee> i mean, holding shift :)
[06:07] <dotnetted> eeee: do-release-upgrade seems to be working fine -- every now and then I see "grep: /boot/config-3.11.0-19-generic: No such file or directory" -- think I should be worried? heh
[06:07] <jishjish> eeee: so every time I hold shift it should work?
[06:07] <dotnetted> right after "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-19-generic"
[06:07] <eeee> jishjish: every time you hold shift the grub menu will appear
[06:08] <jishjish> I see. once in grub, and terminal. which command should I run first? who?
[06:08] <eeee> dotnetted: that's the kernel you're running right?
[06:08] <dotnetted> yeah
[06:08] <eeee> jishjish: once in grub, press "e" over the ubuntu entry
[06:08] <eeee> jishjish: not the recovery
[06:09] <jishjish> oh right, what does "e" do?
[06:09] <dotnetted> (but I assume the do-releas-upgrade will give me a newer one)
[06:09] <eeee> jishjish: it will edit the entry
[06:09] <eeee> jishjish: it's also just for this one time, next time you boot it won't use the edited entry
[06:09] <jishjish> right ok
[06:09] <jishjish> then?
[06:10] <eeee> jishjish: add "init=/bin/bash" to the end of the line that starts with Linux /boot/vmlinuz...
[06:10] <nevermoreraven> what are some good movies?
[06:11] <jishjish> eeee: ok, what does that do?
[06:11] <eeee> jishjish: i would love to explain stuff but i really have to get dressed and drive someone somewhere
[06:11] <jishjish> alright no worries, so I add that and then reboot?
[06:11] <eeee> jishjish: i'll have to quickly write things out, or if you want someone else can help for sure
[06:12] <eeee> jishjish: no press ctrl+x to execute
[06:12] <eeee> you'll get a root shell, type mount -o remount,rw /
[06:12] <eeee> then add your user to the sudo group, usermod -aG sudo s
[06:12] <eeee> and change his passwd, passwd s
[06:14] <eeee> or make a new temporary sudo'd user by useradd -m -G sudo <user>
[06:14] <eeee> to get in and fix stuff
[06:14] <jishjish> eeee: I think I want a perminent admin or sudoer and then I will delete the "S" account
[06:15] <eeee> jishjish: you can add that via the gui, settings > users
[06:15] <jishjish> oh right so this will just give me the "S" user a password and then I can do everything else via gui
[06:16] <eeee> yeah
[06:16] <eeee> jishjish: be sure to type passwd s , to change the password
[06:16] <jishjish> otherwise I will change the root password right, instead of for that user?
[06:17] <eeee> yeah
[06:44] <dooglus> what does it mean when your systel load average is over 3 billion?
[06:44] <dooglus> $ uptime
[06:44] <dooglus>  23:38:38 up 4 days,  6:08,  3 users,  load average:<PHONE_NUMBER>.33,<PHONE_NUMBER>.13,<PHONE_NUMBER>.64
[06:45] <dooglus> system*
[06:46] <Fall> You should have some very very very very very VERY hot CPUs.
[06:47] <helmut_> i
[06:48] <Cat> Hello :)
[06:51] <wanti> hayy.....
[06:51] <akromfatmawati> hallo...
[06:52] <uci> haiiiiii
[06:52] <dewi-nurus> hay
[06:52] <genewitch> what's a lightweight CMS that will take me like an hour to set up?
[06:52] <genewitch> maybe something that uses not mysql. that'd be nice
[06:53] <suci> aku ra ngerti ngomong apa
[06:53] <liliseri> hallo friends
[06:53] <dewi-nurus> wan
[06:53] <akromfatmawati> pada baen a y kya gue
[06:53] <uci> sarua......
[06:57] <dewi-nurus> lgi apa kwan XI IPA
[06:57] <wanti> OMG ,,,,i don't remember about lenguage english........
[07:00] <khussein78> I cannot connect to samba share after I download today updates on ubuntu 14,04
[07:00] <khussein78> mount error(5): Input/output error
[07:09] <khussein78> mount error(5): Input/output error
[07:10] <khussein78> I cannot connect to samba share after I download today updates on ubuntu 14,04
[07:10] <cfhowlett> khussein78, i/o erros suggest hardware failure
[07:11] <khussein78> cfhowlett, it works fine from windows and it was worked fine today morning before run latest updates
[07:12] <hateball> In the case of Samba it could be down to permissions also
[07:12] <cfhowlett> ^^^ this khussein78
[07:12] <khussein78> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[07:12] <khussein78> it gave this also
[07:13] <khussein78> also I face it on two machines
[07:21] <stangeland> Hello, if i do /etc/init.d/hostapd start i get   * Starting advanced IEEE 802.11 management hostapd                      [fail]     How do i see why it failed?
[07:25] <hateball> stangeland: Check the init script if it has a special log location, or just look around in /var/log
[07:25] <hateball> It could log to syslog or who knows
[07:27] <TheBigDeal> Morning
[07:28] <stangeland> hateball, yeah, i have looked there but i could not find any log :(
[07:28] <TheBigDeal> Could you tell me what do you call applications that work in the real-time and have a tray-icon nearby the clock?
[07:30] <TheBigDeal> hey
[07:31] <TheBigDeal> !tray
[07:31] <TheBigDeal> !application
[07:31] <hateball> stangeland: I am not familiar with the program in question, sadly
[07:31] <TheBigDeal> ubottu,
[07:32] <TheBigDeal> hateball, Have you any idea?
[07:32] <liliseri> hello
[07:33] <hateball> TheBigDeal: I'm not familiar with Unity terminology, no
[07:35] <TheBigDeal> hm
[07:46] <felty> hmm
[07:55] <itewsh> Hi
[07:56] <luckybunny> anyone else getting update-manager trying to replace wine 1.7 with wine 1.6?
[07:56] <luckybunny> it's also wanting to 'update' my NVIDIA stuff with generic
[08:02] <jnhghy> Hi, I've just updated to 14.04 and I see that the left bar(the one with dash and the launchers) doesn't auto-hide anymore, is there a way to make it auto-hide or do I need to live with it?
[08:02] <mbrgm1> anyone else having wrong checksum issues with trusty-updates during apt-get update?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> mbrgm1, more useful information by posting your actual terminal feedback.  fwiw: my dist-ugprade is running perfectly but "works for me"
[08:05] <mbrgm1> W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[08:05] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: ^
[08:06] <cfhowlett> mbrgm1, new error?
[08:06] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: what do you mean with 'new error'?
[08:07] <cfhowlett> mbrgm1, is this the first time you've seen this error?
[08:07] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: yup, but on several (virtual) machines
[08:07] <cfhowlett> mbrgm1, VM only?
[08:07] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: works on some though.
[08:08] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: no, vm host too.
[08:08] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: some vms work, some don't. vm host doesn't.
[08:09] <cfhowlett> mbrgm1, I see.  First: test with a different mirror in  your software source settings
[08:11] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: lol, reboot on one machine fixed the error.
[08:11] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: I'll try the other ones...
[08:11] <cfhowlett> mbrgm1, nicely done
[08:11] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: maybe some caching error I guess...
[08:12] <cfhowlett> mbrgm1, usually this error self corrects
[08:18] <dyu> how do i make apt-get explicitly ask me if i want to continue?
[08:26] <jnhghy> gedit stoped working(it closes when I try to open a file) after 12.04 to 14.04 upgrade error I get is: http://pastebin.com/2We6ZycH
[08:35] <Skizu> Not sure this is the right place to ask, but I'll leave that up to you. I'm using a ubuntu box for run my PHP and such, I use Apache PostgreSQL PHP(via mod_proxy_fcgi). Was wondering if there's a better way to handle my static content
[08:38] <fattaneh1> I've installed jap and it works well with firefox but it doesn't work in terminal, also i export proxies to terminal
[08:39] <Eduard_Munteanu> Where do I find the Ubuntu archive GPG key? (securely downloadble)
[08:40] <somsip> Skizu: your question seems quite specific to web design. You may want to server static content via nginx or something similar. But its out of scope for discussion here
[08:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> Please tell me that's not missing as well.
[08:41] <k1l> Eduard_Munteanu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Authentication_Tab
[08:44] <Eduard_Munteanu> k1l, getting it from a keyserver doesn't count as secure, and I can't seem to find a fingerprint to check it.
[08:44] <k1l> Eduard_Munteanu: sorry, but what do you want to do in the first place?
[08:45] <Eduard_Munteanu> k1l, I'm building an Arch Linux package, I'll use the key with cdebootstrap
[08:45] <Eduard_Munteanu> Not running Ubuntu at the moment.
[08:47] <k1l> why should a keyserver be not secure? that is a common place to share a key
[08:49] <Skizu> somsip: So would nginx be a solution? How does nginx provide a better handling of static content? Where'd I look for these answers for my random questions :P
[08:49] <somsip> Skizu: looks like you need to do some research. I'd suggest nginx home page for a start.
[08:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> k1l, the requests/responses aren't signed or encrypted at all, it's a cleartext protocol.
[08:59] <ubuntu_amit> hello
[09:00] <Eduard_Munteanu> ubuntu_amit, hi
[09:00] <ubuntu_amit> I installed ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my oracle virtualbox through a bridged adaptor but can't connect it through putty from my windows host
[09:01] <ubuntu_amit> I have disabled the firewall by ufw disable
[09:01] <ubuntu_amit> I need to access the ubuntu vm using putty from my host machine ...what could be going wrong?
[09:02]  * Eduard_Munteanu wonders who put these people in charge of maintaining distribution websites (not just Ubuntu) if they can't make basic crypto provisions in 2014 :(
[09:05] <antonio__> I'm using 12.10 and I'm getting ready to updgrade to the latest version.  I've just burned the latest version on a live DVD.  And I just finished backing up my home folder...What do I do next?
[09:05] <ubuntu_amit> anyone?
[09:05] <antonio__> Can I just run the new install...and then use the backup/restore to bring my home folder back?
[09:08] <somsip> ubuntu_amit: is it on the same subnet? Is SSH daemon running? Are you connecting with a valid user and valid pass/key?
[09:08] <bazhang> antonio__, the installer should offer to preserve home
[09:10] <ubuntu_amit> @somsip - yes its on the same subnet, how do I verify that ssh daemon is running?
[09:10] <somsip> ubuntu_amit: ps aux | grep sshd
[09:12] <ubuntu_amit> somsip - no results with that command...though I see ssh-agent running when I do "ps aux | grep ssh" ...do I need to start ssh daemon
[09:13] <somsip> ubuntu_amit: if you have not installed it, you need to do that, It doesn't install as standard* (* it can be added as an option)
[09:14] <ubuntu_amit> somsip - should I execute "apt-get install openssh-server" ?
[09:14] <somsip> ubuntu_amit: yes
[09:17] <ISayHeyHey> Is /bin/sh a symlink to /bin/bash?
[09:17] <k1l> ISayHeyHey: yes
[09:17] <ubuntu_amit> somsip - cool works....how can I login as root user? what would be the default password? the installation didn't ask me to set it
[09:18] <somsip> ubuntu_amit: you don't log in as root - it's not safe. You log in as a user with sudo priviliges and use that
[09:19] <gagamail> rm -rf /
[09:19] <ISayHeyHey> k1l: Hmm.. Do you have any idea what could be causing my problem then? I SSH into my Ubuntu box (using Putty on Windows). But when I press the arrow up, it just writes "^[[A", Auto-complete with tab doesn't work either.
[09:19] <ISayHeyHey> k1l: I heard it could be something about the default shell, but haven't found a solution yet.
[09:19] <ubuntu_amit> somsip - ok cool works...how I can access the service running on my ubuntu vm on port 3000 from my host machine browser?
[09:20] <k1l> ISayHeyHey: make sure you use utf-8 as encoding?
[09:20] <somsip> ubuntu_amit: to what end?
[09:20] <flameaway> There is the strange thing I have to do to reboot ubuntu...
[09:21] <flameaway> First I have to reboot into bios.  then hit F9 to load defauts
[09:21] <flameaway> then F10 to save and exit.  I then reboot and reenter bios and change one setting (doesnt' matter what)
[09:21] <flameaway> Then my system will boot to ubuntu...
[09:21] <ISayHeyHey> k1l: UTF-8 is set in Putty. Ubuntu box is en_US.UTF-8 :)
[09:21] <flameaway> How do I fix this
[09:22] <ISayHeyHey> k1l: Danish is my language on the windows machine, could it be the problem?
[09:22] <k1l> ISayHeyHey: no. dont think so
[09:23] <ubuntu_amit> somsip - got it ...basically I was running a service on my vm but was trying to access it through localhost...works when I access it using the ip address
[09:23] <sennn> hello there
[09:24] <ISayHeyHey> k1l: I'll be damned. I will think it over during lunch :)
[09:24] <ubuntu_amit> somsip - thanks a ton...your help made it really quick
[09:24] <somsip> ubuntu_amit: np
[09:31] <Hightower_> I have UFW install on my 14.04 box but the rules aren't applying
[09:31] <Skizu> So I'm looking to get an irc client on my ubuntu 14.04 LTS box, any suggestions?
[09:31] <Hightower_> No matter what I add the ports SSH, DNS, HTTP, POP3, IMAP remain open
[09:31] <Hightower_> And if I try to enable HTTPS nothing changes
[09:31] <cfhowlett> Skizu, see the software center : irc clients
[09:31] <Hightower_> I've tried ufw reset
[09:31] <Hightower_> And then ufw reload after adding rules
[09:32] <Skizu> cfhowlett: Can you define this software center you reference?
[09:32] <k1l> Skizu: hexchat or irssi (gui or cli)
[09:32] <Skizu> k1l: irssi for cli?
[09:32] <cfhowlett> Skizu, Ubuntu Software Center
[09:32] <k1l> yes
[09:32] <Fuchs> Skizu: that or weechat, yes
[09:32] <Skizu> Thanks hun ;)
[09:32] <Fuchs> weechat is slightly newer and recently more active developed.
[09:36] <jnhghy> how to add a path to 'org.gtk.Settings.FileChooser' ? (it seems I lost it when upgrading to 14.04) now I get error when trying (I assume) gtk3 file opener/chooser the error is this: http://pastebin.com/3px0bhCN so how can I add a path and what path should I enter?
[09:38] <skizu> Looks like that was seemless, cheers
[09:38] <Hightower_> UFW took my deny rules after a restart
[09:38] <Hightower_> But it still didn't open up HTTPS
[09:42] <mks1209> hi all, how can I install ubuntu if i dont have a CD Rom drive in my laptop
[09:42] <Fuchs> mks1209: you can boot from an USB flashdrive if your BIOS supports that
[09:42] <DJones> !usb | mks1209
[09:42] <Fuchs> mks1209: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick  for details on that :)
[09:43] <mks1209> thanks all
[09:43] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[09:47] <juiced>  /quit
[09:51] <masoudborbor> HI EVERIBODY. how much time does it take for "gpart" to scan my hard? sudo gpart /dev/sda
[09:52] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, factors: available ram, size of HDD so: we can't answer
[09:53] <nevermoreraven> my dog just ripped ass
[09:53] <cfhowlett> nevermoreraven, wrong channel.
[09:53] <ImQ009> nevermoreraven, waka waka waka
[09:59] <sennn> again
[10:00] <omelchek> Hello! I have just reported a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1373334, which channel should I better write to? thnx
[10:01] <Xtreme> guys, anything like https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/570/todotxt/ for other dwm?
[10:01] <Xtreme> for ubuntu
[10:01] <EiriksUbuntu> um, am i missing something?
[10:01] <EiriksUbuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8416965/
[10:01] <Xtreme> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/162/todo-list/
[10:01] <Xtreme> this is better
[10:01] <cfhowlett> omelchek, you reported the bug.  no need to report to  a channel.
[10:02] <masoudborbor> cfhowlett, hdd 500gb 3 gb ram
[10:02] <masoudborbor> )(the question was about the time gpart needs to scan my hdd)
[10:03] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, simple scan should take about 1 minute.  doing MORE than scanning takes more time.
[10:03] <omelchek> cfhowlett, I understand, it's just quit urgent :-) that's why
[10:03] <cfhowlett> omelchek, noted.
[10:04] <masoudborbor> I just typed gpart /dev/sda but it is now for about 20 minutes
[10:04] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, and nothing happened ... right?
[10:05] <cfhowlett> !info gpart
[10:05] <masoudborbor> exactly
[10:05] <masoudborbor> just says: begin scan...
[10:06] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, gpart is NOT gparted.  which one do you need?
[10:06] <ObrienDave> is the drive light still on?
[10:06] <masoudborbor> gpart
[10:06] <ObrienDave> what are you trying to accomplish?
[10:07] <masoudborbor> I cannot boot my windows/ubuntu laptop. when I try to install grub it has problems with Lvm
[10:07] <AnAnt> Hello, I got a dell laptop with Ubuntu Precise pre-installed, how can I upgrade to trusty and keep the OEM repositories
[10:07] <masoudborbor> and when I use gparted
[10:07] <ykotko> by the way this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1373334 is affected and me
[10:07] <masoudborbor> I see that my partition table is lost (or wrong)
[10:07] <masoudborbor> but with linux live I can see my partitions and all the folders in them
[10:07] <cfhowlett> AnAnt, sudo apt-get update && sudo do-release-upgrade
[10:08] <AnAnt> cfhowlett: what about the OEM repositories ?
[10:08] <cfhowlett> AnAnt, OEM = Dell?
[10:09] <AnAnt> cfhowlett: I've got repositories like: oem.canonical.com precise/dell-oem-sp1
[10:10] <Xtreme> :|
[10:10] <cfhowlett> AnAnt, right.  EZ method: backup /etc/apt/sources.list   do the upgrade but you should localize your sources list
[10:10]  * ObrienDave wonders if boot-repair might help masoudborbor
[10:11] <masoudborbor> dunno why I cannot install that
[10:11] <masoudborbor> and the only problem is not grub. I have lost my prtitions too
[10:11] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, how did this happen?
[10:12] <masoudborbor> I installed ubuntu... left some unalocated space for data... then in windows (foolish me) went to disk manager and tried to make a new partition in that unallocted data...
[10:12] <ObrienDave> that should have been ok to do
[10:13] <masoudborbor> looks like it was not
[10:13] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, should have worked but ... stop partitioning.  backup your data.  NOW.
[10:13]  * ObrienDave agrees
[10:14] <ObrienDave> do you have an external USB drive to use?
[10:14] <masoudborbor> I have done that :)
[10:14] <masoudborbor> I have backed up all the data
[10:14] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, windows still works?
[10:14] <masoudborbor> nope
[10:14] <masoudborbor> no boot
[10:15] <masoudborbor> grub rescue>
[10:15] <masoudborbor> but all the folders and drives are mountable in linux live
[10:15] <masoudborbor> and I prefer to have both os's back
[10:15] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, been there.  done that.  first fix windows.
[10:15] <masoudborbor> because of the programs and custoizations
[10:15] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, boot your windows repair disk and fix.
[10:15] <masoudborbor> how to fix windows so?
[10:15] <kimse> I'm trying to setup an LXC host and I'm trying to configure a bridged network
[10:15] <kimse> so that the containers will obtain their IP address from the network DHCP server.
[10:16] <masoudborbor> wont that loose linux and partiotion tables n so?
[10:16] <Cnoob> Hey!I got a lot of photos that I want to rout 90 degre.Any idea how to do it?Any tool or s.th?
[10:16] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, nope.
[10:16] <kimse> However I'm having some difficulties getting it to work
[10:16] <Ben64> Cnoob: imagemagick
[10:16] <kimse> I've used this guide: https://wiki.debian.org/LXC/SimpleBridge
[10:16] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, you need to re-set windows boot setup.  use windows tools for that.   ask ##windows for details.  come back when fininshed.
[10:17] <Cnoob>  Ben64: thaks.I'll check it out.
[10:17] <felty> check check
[10:17] <felty> check it out
[10:17] <cfhowlett> Cnoob, image magick is ... magic.
[10:17] <felty> yo
[10:17] <masoudborbor> thanks
[10:17] <cfhowlett> felty, ask your ubuntu questions
[10:17] <felty> cfhowlett: I'm xubuntu user :)
[10:20] <masoudborbor> cfhowlett, thanks! gonna start that now... brb
[10:20] <Cnoob> Imagemagick is installed but I can't run it!says "no command found!".
[10:20] <antonio__> I'm using 12.10 and I'm getting ready to updgrade to the latest version.  I've just burned the latest version on a live DVD.  And I just finished backing up my home folder...What do I do next?
[10:21] <antonio__> Can I just run the new install...and then use the backup/restore to bring my home folder back?
[10:21] <cfhowlett> antonio__, sounds legit
[10:21] <Ben64> Cnoob: because it provides a bunch of binaries, none are actually named imagemagick
[10:22] <Cnoob> Ben64:So what to call now?
[10:22] <cfhowlett> Cnoob, fotoxx has basic manipulations tools
[10:22] <Ben64> Cnoob: you probably want convert or mogrify
[10:22] <Cnoob> want to rout.
[10:23] <Ben64> rout?
[10:23] <cfhowlett> rotate
[10:23] <Ben64> oh, well either convert or mogrify still
[10:23] <Cnoob> yes yes!:)
[10:23] <Ben64> Cnoob: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/mogrify.php http://www.imagemagick.org/www/convert.html
[10:23] <Cnoob> bash: fotoxx: command not found
[10:24] <Cnoob> Ben64:thanks for links:)
[10:24] <cfhowlett> Cnoob, read the links first ... fotoxx is a gui image manipulator but does the same things as imagemagick
[10:24] <cfhowlett> Ben64, tools for make a photo contact / proof sheet?
[10:25] <Ben64> can do that with convert
[10:25] <m-bd-m> hi
[10:26] <cfhowlett> Ben64, I mean batch photos, i.e. 4 x 5 spread of reduced size photos
[10:26] <PaulVern> I am running Xubuntu 14.04.  On bootup, mounting cryptswap1 fails each time, and I press S to skip
[10:26] <Ben64> cfhowlett: yeah i know
[10:26] <cfhowlett> Ben64, thanks.  reading
[10:26] <PaulVern> I re-installed Xubuntu 2* (formatting the whole SSD each time, still happens
[10:26] <PaulVern> my work around for now has been to comment it out in /etc/fstab
[10:26] <Ben64> imagemagick can do pretty much anything
[10:26] <PaulVern> but any idea what would cause this?
[10:27] <m-bd-m> hi! i cloned my ubuntu 14.04.1 x86 system to another hdd and its working in this other pc i put it in, but i got problems with this matrox video driver not giving nice output
[10:27] <Cnoob> can some just give me a command to roatate a image 90 degres to right without any other effects?
[10:27] <Ben64> Cnoob: do you want to make a copy and rotate or delete the original
[10:28] <cfhowlett> Cnoob, convert imagename -rotate 90 newimagename
[10:30] <Cnoob> cfhowlett: Thank you!
[10:30] <cfhowlett> Cnoob, happy2help
[10:34] <m-bd-m> hey! whats the difference betweem X and Xorg?
[10:35] <vitimiti> m-bd-m, X is the graphical server of X.org
[10:35] <vitimiti> Simplified
[10:36] <m-bd-m> and why does puppy linux gives better quality picture than ubuntu (both using kernel module 'mga')
[10:36] <vitimiti> Ubuntu gives me 720p, which is the maximum my screen can have
[10:37] <m-bd-m> vitimiti: its a cloned system, how do i reconfigure graphics? `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-video-mga`?
[10:38] <vitimiti> m-bd-m, I don't really know, but that should reconfigure the package, yeah
[10:39] <minimec> m-bd-m: I would check it you have a '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'. I you don't have that file, all configuration is done by the xserver itself..
[10:39] <m-bd-m> minimec: i dont have it...
[10:39] <m-bd-m> how do i regenerate that file?
[10:42] <minimec> m-bd-m: switch to a console with <ctrl><alt>F1 and login. Then 'sudo service lightdm stop', then sudo Xorg -configure. That will generate a xorg.conf and save it into your /home/youruser directory. Afterwardes 'sudo service lightdm start && exit' to restart the xserver.
[10:42] <minimec> m-bd-m: These commands give you the actual xorg.conf that the xserver is using for your device.
[10:42] <hist44883334> hey everybody
[10:45] <zapu> I use lxc container to develop my software so I don't pollute my system with all the services and libs it needs. How can I mount my source tree either host->guest or guest->host without breaking file ownership and permissions?
[10:46] <zapu> When I just mount host directory on guest, I get nobody/nogroup ownership (65534/65534)
[10:46] <zapu> Ideally I'd edit the files on host side but run them in container
[10:47] <cfhowlett> Ben64, found it!  thanks for the direction.  montage +polaroid mymontage.jpg           was perfect!
[10:47] <jberg_> how can i make something that tracks everything i download with my mobile broadband? a daemon, kernel module or something else?
[10:48] <Joe_Strummer> hi. is it possible to install ubuntu 14.04 without grub? I have a hd with also debian and kali. I wanted to install also ubuntk but i thought there was the possible to checkbox called "skip grub installation", but now i can'find it. The problem is that I have debian in an encrypted partition, and if I install ubuntu, grub won't find debian encrypted partition. Sorry for my poor english. Thanks.
[10:48] <cfhowlett> Joe_Strummer, of course!  just don't install the bootloader
[10:49] <Joe_Strummer> there is no more the checkbox "skip grub install".
[10:49] <felty> LiSA
[10:52] <k1l> felty: could you reduce the offside comments in here?
[10:52] <cfhowlett> Joe_Strummer, what bootloader are you running?
[10:53] <felty> anyone know how much swap area shoud i set?
[10:54] <k1l> felty: at least as much as you got ram
[10:54] <Joe_Strummer> debian. The problem is that if i run ubuntu grub, it won'find debian encrypted partition anymore, but it will find only kali
[10:54] <cfhowlett> Joe_Strummer, worst case: grub installs.  reinstall the debian bootloader to repair
[10:54] <cfhowlett> felty, formula seems to be RAM x 2
[10:54] <felty> k1l: at least? I have 5Gb RAM. I heard that just 2 Gb swap field  will be ok
[10:55] <felty> cfhowlett: oh....seriously?....
[10:55] <k1l> felty: no hibernation possible then
[10:55] <Joe_Strummer> so i wanted to install ubuntu without grub, and then give "update-grub" from debian.
[10:55] <felty> k1l:except of that issue, is there any other reason of setting RAM-sized-swap field?
[10:56] <felty> k1l: I already solve that problem
[10:56] <cfhowlett> Joe_Strummer, debian uses grub????
[10:56] <k1l> felty: i dont have a swap at all. so if you dont want hibernation you can set any amount you like
[10:56] <Joe_Strummer> yes, 1.99
[10:56] <Joe_Strummer> debian wheezy
[10:57] <felty> k1l:oh main reason is hibernation?
[10:57] <cfhowlett> Joe_Strummer, OK ... I think you first idea was the right way: don't install ubuntu grub.   Should be possible to skip that step.  don't know why you're not seeing the option.
[10:59] <k1l> felty: the main reason to set swap to a specific amount (at elast ram size) is hibernation. if you dont want that you can set it to what you like. even 0
[10:59] <Joe_Strummer> the problem is that I can't find how to skip.in ubuntu there's no more the checkbox "skip grub install".
[11:00] <felty> k1l: wow thanks for ur lesson
[11:01] <eda_> chromium web browser does not run adobe flash player. how can i fix this problem? ( Xubuntu 14.04.1 )
[11:01] <hateball> eda_: install pepper-flash
[11:02] <hateball> eda_: "sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree"
[11:03] <eda_> why do i have to install pepper-flash hateball
[11:04] <Ben64> eda_: because you want flash...
[11:06] <UnixBird> Hi everyone
[11:06] <felty> hi :)
[11:06] <eda_> thx Ben64 hateball
[11:09] <felty> does xubuntu install VGA Driver automatically?
[11:09] <UnixBird> I'm set for mysql as root started after installation, and I need to change data in the ~/.my.cnf. file. I have to change what ?
[11:09] <k1l> felty: it installs the free drivers, yes.
[11:09] <k1l> felty: if you want the prop. drivers you need to manually install them form the ubuntu repo
[11:11] <felty> k1l: how can i know there is proper VGA driver in my devide
[11:12] <felty> *device
[11:12] <Gear_> which usb creator is best?
[11:12] <k1l> felty: what video card do you got?
[11:12] <nestle33> i have a ubuntu installation that is still running 13.10. I've ran apt-get update;apt-get upgrade and it says ( The following packages have been kept back:   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic ) so my question is: Should I run apt-get dist-upgrade, and THEN do-release-upgrade (to get to 14.x) or should i just skip dist-upgrade and go straight to do-release-upgrade ?
[11:12] <k1l> Gear_: there is not "best"
[11:12] <felty> k1l: Nvidia
[11:13] <k1l> felty: well. if your card is still supported (like in not very old) you can just install the "nvidia-current" package
[11:15] <Gear_> ok one that works
[11:16] <ObrienDave> !usb
[11:16] <minimec> nestle33: Well linux-image-generic is a rather important package. It is used for all the kernel updates. So I would make sure, that there are no longer any 'kept back' packages before you start the upgrade process.
[11:16] <felty> k1l: I've already installed it but Idk actually there's proper driver
[11:17] <felty> k1l: can i see VGA driver list in Terminal?
[11:17] <k1l> felty: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[11:19] <felty> k1l: no such PCI access method
[11:20] <felty> k1l: it means there's no driver?
[11:20] <k1l> felty: please show a "lspci" in a pastebin
[11:23] <felty> pasetbin?
[11:23] <k1l> !paste | felty
[11:25] <felty> oh! thanks
[11:25] <felty> mayber after 50 min. I'll show u
[11:26] <k1l> o_O
[11:33] <Gear_> I have ah hp zd8000
[11:33] <Gear_> how do I get the wifi working?
[11:34] <Gear_> had to install 32bit ubuntu
[11:34] <Mion> why 32bit?
[11:35] <Mion> anyway, lspci and find out what card is in that thing
[11:35] <Mion> lspci | grep Wireless
[11:35] <Mion> post output if any
[11:36] <Gear_> 64bit didn't work with the ethernet for some reason
[11:36] <Mion> Gear_: probably unrelated
[11:37] <Mion> 32bit vs 64bit doesn't mean anything when it comes to network drivers
[11:37] <Gear_> it doesn't matter either way
[11:37] <Gear_> there's not enough ram for it to matter
[11:38] <k1l> ram size is not the reason for 64bit.
[11:38] <Gear_> ok
[11:38] <Mion> and please post the output already
[11:38] <Gear_> still doesn't matter
[11:39] <Gear_> I can't yet, it's still installing
[11:40] <Mion> you can use lspci on the installer
[11:40] <Gear_> yeah
[11:40] <k1l> !b43
[11:41] <usr13> Gear_: does iwconfig show you anything?
[11:41] <Gear_> it's not totally installed yet
[11:42] <Gear_> but I'm looking at that broadcom page
[11:42] <k1l> then let it install first before you start fiddeling
[11:42] <Gear_> there's no other option :)
[11:42] <usr13> Gear_: You have a functioning OS running now, you can run iwconfig or lspci if you want.
[11:44] <Hightower_> Getting a "forbidden" error on some web pages (not all)
[11:44] <Gear_> it's not functioning yet
[11:44] <Hightower_> Checking permissions on specific pages and they are the same as the pages that work ok?
[11:44] <usr13> Gear_: What is not functioning?
[11:45] <Gear_> ubuntu is still installing
[11:45] <Gear_> but the wifi is a chipset that's problematic apparently
[11:45] <k1l> Gear_: are you in a live system?
[11:45] <Gear_> I'm on a different computer
[11:45] <usr13> Gear_: Are you using the alternate or liveCD?
[11:46] <Gear_> usb stick with 14.04 32bit
[11:48] <BURTONV> HI
[11:49] <k1l> Gear_: so start a new terminal in that live system and enter that command "lspci".
[11:49] <usr13> Gear_: You can still check to see what lspic or iwconfig reports about your wireless NIC
[11:49] <wild_oscar> hi. just upgraded to 14.04, was using gnome before. How does one add programs to the list of program Dash searches in? I had a few programs added in Gnome (I can see them in alacarte), but if I search unity for the program's name it doesn't show up. the program is in /usr/bin/
[11:49] <wild_oscar> (and I installed it directly from a .deb file)
[11:50] <g0th> hi
[11:50] <g0th> how can I let firefox handle .ics files by importing them into google calendar?
[11:50] <g0th> is there no application which acts like an adaptor around google calendar?
[11:50] <usr13> Gear_: lspci |grep ireless
[11:50] <k1l> wild_oscar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/191919/new-app-doesnt-appear-in-unity-dash
[11:50] <g0th> something that I can choose as a default application for .ics files
[11:52] <mohsen-rashidi> hello there
[11:52] <mohsen-rashidi> How can i find out if my graphic card`s driver is installed?
[11:52] <k1l> mohsen-rashidi:  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[11:52] <mks1209> hi, I was able to make a bootable usb drive, i have win8 on laptop, can i get some help understanding - how select the drive and boot loader
[11:53] <mohsen-rashidi> k1l: thanks
[11:53] <usr13> mks1209: Are you able to boot to it?
[11:53] <UnixBird> One to help me ? lol
[11:53] <usr13> mks1209: Is that your question:  How do I boot to the USB drive?
[11:54] <mks1209> yes and run the installation but it doesnt seem to understand that there already is win8
[11:54] <wild_oscar> k1l:  does one need to register the new .desktop file somehow? because simply adding it to ~/..applications won't cut it
[11:54] <mks1209> SDA5 is where i want to install ubuntu
[11:54] <usr13> mks1209: Reboot the computer, watch for "Boot Options" or something to that effect. (It varies from PC to PC.)
[11:55] <mks1209> usr13: i got the installation going
[11:55] <k1l> wild_oscar: ~/.local/share/applications
[11:55] <k1l> and then relogin. then that should be loaded
[11:55] <usr13> mks1209: Ok. I see.  Now, do you have any free space set aside for the install?  (You need to have un-partitioned free space for the Ubuntu install.)
[11:55] <mks1209> usr13: but drives name dont appear and i am afraid to screw up the win8 installation
[11:56] <mks1209> i created SDA5 in win8
[11:56] <usr13> mks1209: drive names are sda sdb sdc   partitions are sda1 sda2 sda3 etc.
[11:56] <hateball> running "sudo fdisk -l" should show you what filesystems are on various partitions, if there's any doubt
[11:56] <mks1209> usr13: should i create new partition
[11:57] <usr13> mks1209: Then delete sda5 and use that free-space (the ubunut installer will re-create it's own partition(s).
[11:57] <usr13> mks1209: Yes, delete sda5 and create new partitions
[11:58] <mks1209> usr13: no option to delete in installer, should i go to win8 and delete there
[11:58] <usr13> mks1209: Are you sure?
[11:59] <usr13> mks1209: (I'm pretty sure you can do what you need from the installer's partition manager.)
[11:59] <mks1209> usr13: right click gives no option, there is format?, or revert
[11:59] <mellhen> hey guys iam in the process to update my server from 12.04 to 14.04 and am stuck in a stupid situation. the process asked me to compare the new and the old conf file of my ssh server. i pressed "D" to compare and now i cant get out and continue the process. If i do ctrl + c i will abort the installation process. What can i press to get out of this config file comparison?
[12:00] <usr13> mks1209: Ok, then make it a little smaller, (there is more-than-likely a resize option).  You need room for swap partition.
[12:00] <k1l> mellhen: q
[12:00] <JesseDhammu> hello
[12:00] <usr13> mks1209: How much RAM do you have?
[12:00] <mellhen> thanks a lot :D
[12:00] <mks1209> usr13: 16gb
[12:00] <usr13> mks1209: What size is the partition?
[12:00] <mks1209> 212gb
[12:00] <JesseDhammu> can anyone suggest me the best IM client for ubuntu 14
[12:01] <mellhen> k1l: thanks! it worked
[12:01] <JesseDhammu> and a cleaner program like janitor ..?
[12:01] <usr13> mks1209: Size it down by 16gb so that you can have a separate swap partition (16g or slightly larger).
[12:02] <usr13> mks1209: I have to go now... (taking my grand-daughter to school), I'll be back in 3/4 hour, for little while.
[12:02] <usr13> mks1209: Someone else will help you now...
[12:03] <mks1209> usr13: on the installation type: i am choosing - Something else
[12:03] <mks1209> usr13: ok tks
[12:04] <wild_oscar> k1l: thanks
[12:05] <BURTONV> ghj
[12:08] <linux> woami
[12:09] <mdanielk> hello
[12:10] <priuon> hello. How do I configure the numeric timezone manually? I read about the directory /usr/share/zoneinfo/, but the files are not readable with $ cat or $ nano.
[12:10] <masoudborbor> I have windows 7 and I want to install ubuntu alongside that. but I have these options: install ubuntu inside windows 7, replace windows 7 with ubuntu, something else
[12:11] <mdanielk> you can do it by choose first opion
[12:11] <mdanielk> option
[12:11] <masoudborbor> installing ubuntu "inside" windows 7 wont hurt my windows?
[12:11] <mdanielk> no, it will be okay
[12:12] <masoudborbor> tx
[12:15] <Gear_> how long should you expect an ubuntu install to take on a pentium 4 with 2gb ram and ati graphics
[12:16] <Gear_> it gets to the "configuring bcmwl-kernel-source and seems to not progress from there
[12:16] <bananabob> hey guys, simple question probably from the string "pool/main/l/linux-backports-modules-3.2.0/linux-backports-modules-cw-3.11-3.2.0-69-virtual_3.2.0-69.61_amd64.deb" how do i only grep the actual filename? The string beeing from the pool can differ in length ofc so i need to grep it from the / until the .deb
[12:17] <facepalm> Gear_ depends on install method... Flash drive, dvd, etc. USB 2.0, 3.0? I'm say between 10 and 30 minutes.
[12:17] <Fuchs> Gear_: that probably involves compiling a third party kernel modul, extracting firmware or similar, that might take a little while longer than the other takss
[12:17] <Fuchs> *tasks, even
[12:17] <Gear_> ok, this is the 3rd attempt, the first two the ethernet cable got yanked
[12:20] <k1l> masoudborbor: dont use the "inside option"
[12:22] <monkeynutts> can anyone help me with a perl cpan module install.
[12:22] <mozzarella> guys help
[12:23] <priuon> I am trying to find a way to make a new TimeZone file. the one in /etc/localtime shows TZif2 in the beginning of the file.
[12:23] <monkeynutts> http://pastebin.com/N7WAcADf
[12:23] <masoudborbor> k1l, what to do then?
[12:24] <k1l> masoudborbor: "inside windows" is the wubi install. that will make trouble in near future and is very hard to support.
[12:24] <k1l> masoudborbor: what partition layout do you have there?
[12:24] <mozzarella> where can I download ubuntu 14.10, at least the beta version
[12:24] <k1l> mozzarella: see #ubuntu+1 and see topic
[12:24] <masoudborbor> k1l, the problem is that! the partition layout. I have a windows partition, a data partition and 50 gb free space for liux...
[12:25] <masoudborbor> k1l, the "disks" utility in ubuntu sees that, but gparted and the linux installer shows somthing else
[12:25] <masoudborbor> looks like I have my partition table gone or corrupt. dunno how to fix that
[12:25] <k1l> masoudborbor: is this a gpt partition table?
[12:27] <masoudborbor> dunno what does it mean!
[12:27] <masoudborbor> how to check that?
[12:27] <k1l> masoudborbor: at least you could use "other" and setup the partitions for ubunut on your own.
[12:28] <masoudborbor> k1l, I tried that but it doesnt show the partitions I have (in windows and disk utilty) but the one gparted
[12:28] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, that suggests gpt partition
[12:28] <masoudborbor> maybe
[12:29] <masoudborbor> what to do to install linux alongside windows now... or to fix the partition table problem
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:32] <mks1209> i am facing same issue as masoudborbor
[12:33] <mks1209> the partition i want to install on shows as free space
[12:36] <BluesKaj> mks1209, use a partitioner like gparted to create an ext4 partition on the freespace
[12:36] <mks1209> primary or logical?
[12:37] <mks1209> also what mount point?
[12:37] <BluesKaj> mks1209, depends ahow many primaries you already have
[12:37] <mohsen-rashidi> Hello there
[12:37] <mohsen-rashidi> is 'i915' name of a graphic cards driver?
[12:38] <mks1209> BluesKaj: i have win8 already on the machine
[12:38] <Slart> mohsen-rashidi: I think it's a graphics chip.. there might be a driver by the same name as well
[12:38] <BluesKaj> mks1209, do you intend to keep W8?
[12:38] <k1l> mohsen-rashidi: yes. its the intel video card driver
[12:38] <mks1209> yes
[12:38] <mohsen-rashidi> thanks
[12:39] <BluesKaj> i915 is an intel graphics driver
[12:40] <BluesKaj> !uefi | mks1209
[12:46] <pbx> i'd like a theme that indicates the active window more prominently.  any suggestions?
[12:46] <pbx> (14.04)
[12:47] <pbx> also, unrelated - as a recent migrant from OSX, when i have multiple windows in an app and close one, i'm used to the next one coming forward. is there a way to get ubuntu/unity to do this?
[12:50] <jop> n
[12:50] <jop> hi
[12:51] <nevada> hello
[12:52] <zhong> who can help me solve this prolem:I turned off the desktop notifications, how to start?
[12:52] <nevada> where can I find a good tutorial about safely sharing files on 2 computers using samba?
[12:52] <soahccc> Which signal is the "normal" one to tell an application to quit? I thought it would be QUIT but the app seems to ignore that. It quits on INT or TERM but I'm not sure if these are to harsh.
[12:53] <krasnayarsk> zhong: what DE? KDE?
[12:53] <zhong> krasnayarsk: xfce
[12:53] <krasnayarsk> zhong: Dunno
[12:53] <zhong> krasnayarsk: xubuntu...
[12:54] <krasnayarsk> I only know kde a little.
[12:54] <krasnayarsk> zhong: perhaps there is a channel for xubuntu?
[12:54] <zhong> krasnayarsk: :(
[12:54] <krasnayarsk> srry
[12:56] <BluesKaj> nevada, between linux and windows?
[12:56] <krasnayarsk> zhong: Perhaps this will help - http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/notification-daemon-xfce
[12:57] <krasnayarsk> BluesKaj: Yes. Or between 2 linux computers.
[12:57] <mks1209> thanks all, i chose the EFI partition already showing, formatted the partition for ubuntu using ext4 and mount as /
[12:57] <mks1209> and it moved forward
[12:57] <zhong> krasnayarsk: 3q
[12:57] <krasnayarsk> zhong: what is 3q?
[12:58] <zhong> krasnayarsk: chinese english.....thank you
[12:58] <zhong> krasnayarsk: :)
[12:58] <krasnayarsk> zhong: you're welcome :)
[12:59] <i4saken> Hi zhong:)
[12:59] <zhong> i4saken: hi~
[12:59] <i4saken> I’m Chinese too, lol
[12:59] <i4saken> zhong: try join ubuntu-cn
[12:59] <zhong> wa oh~~
[13:00] <zhong> i4saken: OK
[13:00] <BluesKaj> nevada, this an old tutorial, but it should still apply http://askubuntu.com/questions/16104/share-between-ubuntu-machines
[13:01] <nevada> BluesKaj: Thank you. I will read it now.
[13:27] <smithzv_> I'm having a heck of a time upgrading to 14.04.  The video using nouveau is extremely slow (much worse than with 13.10) and installing the nvidia drivers, my strong preference, leaves you in a blank screen after the Ubuntu splash screen on boot (and C-A-F1 does nothing).  I gathered the Xorg for 13.10 using nouveau, 14.04.1 using nouveau, and 14.04.1 using nvidia 331, to compare.  Nvidia logs simply end with "NVIDIA(0): Enabling 2D acceleration".  Any help
[13:28] <reisio> very comprehensive
[13:28] <reisio> smithzv_: can you CTRL+ALT+F2 from the black screen?
[13:29] <smithzv_> reisio: no, no other terminals are accessible
[13:29] <smithzv_> no terminals at all, the thing seems hung
[13:29] <reisio> 'no' would have sufficed :p
[13:29] <smithzv_> rught
[13:29] <reisio> can you get to the GRUB menu?
[13:30] <smithzv_> sure, hold on
[13:30] <reisio> should be a rescue mode / recovery mode listing, boot that
[13:31] <smithzv_> reisio: okay, going to advanded options, then booting 3.13.0-36-generic recovery
[13:32] <smithzv_> reisio: okay, at the recovery menu
[13:32] <smithzv_> reisio: btw, right now nouveau is installed
[13:36] <smithzv_> reisio: did you want me to try failsafeX boot?
[13:37] <reisio> smithzv_: sure
[13:39] <fancyfetus> hey guys
[13:39] <reisio> heyo
[13:39] <rafaht> hi! i've updated my ubuntu server yesterday and have a problem with squid. i changed squid folder to squid3 in configurations, removed squid, etc and the problem is solved, for a moment
[13:39] <rafaht> but, the squid logs doesn't working
[13:39] <rafaht> http://pastebin.com/KVUVEwSj
[13:39] <rafaht> my configs
[13:39] <fancyfetus> Would anybody recommend against running ubuntu on a macbook pro retina 13?
[13:39] <rafaht> and i don't know what is happening with this
[13:39] <fancyfetus> all considered, I can't find a laptop of similar build and with the same features for the same price :/
[13:40] <daftykins> fancyfetus: people have issues getting it installed, or attempting to have it as the only OS installed - so don't get one thinking it's guaranteed to work
[13:40] <reisio> fancyfetus: then you aren't trying very hard :)
[13:40] <smithzv_> reisio: surprisingly (with nouveau installed), that didn't work.  Log says: Screen(s) found, but noe have a usable configuration.... Fatal server error: no screens found"
[13:40] <reisio> fancyfetus: should work fine
[13:40] <reisio> smithzv_: can you get to CTRL+ALT+F2 ?
[13:40] <fancyfetus> reisio, open to ideas. Looking for 1440p screen, thin, well built and a good battery life.
[13:40] <reisio> fancyfetus: sounds like the majority of ultrabooks
[13:41] <fancyfetus> daftykins, I'd probably dual boot windows and ubuntu
[13:41] <daftykins> fancyfetus: yeah not going to happen.
[13:41] <rafaht> i copy and paste the squid.conf from another server when it's working to this and changed the configurations (ips) to this server, but doesn't working
[13:41] <rafaht> :/
[13:41] <fancyfetus> reisio, ultrabooks are much more expensive than the equivalent macbook.
[13:41] <reisio> fancyfetus: no particular reason you can't do that
[13:41] <smithzv_> reisio: Also, I see (EE) VESA(0): V_BIOS address 0xd00 out of range
[13:41] <reisio> fancyfetus: nah, they're about the same
[13:41] <reisio> they figure they can charge as much as Apple does (200%) for them
[13:41] <reisio> so they do
[13:41] <smithzv_> reisio: yes, but nothing is there, it dumped my back to the recovery menu
[13:42] <reisio> smithzv_: it?
[13:42] <fancyfetus> reisio, I've looked at Asus Zenbook, Acer S7, Dell XPS, Surface Pro 3, Lenovo X1 Carbon
[13:42] <smithzv_> reisio: when failsafe failed to start Xorg, it gave an error, waited about 5 seconds, then the recovery menu came back up
[13:42] <fancyfetus> they are all 1080p, shit battery
[13:43] <reisio> fancyfetus: get a mac if you want
[13:43] <smithzv_> I got that info from the root shell to access the logs
[13:43] <reisio> smithzv_: then that's a 'no'
[13:43] <fancyfetus> and a lot of ultrabooks these days have either detachable screens or flip screens. It's a shame. I have 0 use for a touch screen.
[13:43] <reisio> smithzv_: when you get to the grub menu, edit one of the items and put ' single' after the line with the kernel in it
[13:43] <reisio> fancyfetus: 0? :p
[13:43] <smithzv_> reisio: sorry, but different behavior from the hung like state
[13:44] <smithzv_> reisio: okay, on it
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[13:44] <fancyfetus> reiso, well I'm sure I have SOME use for it, but I've had tablets and didn't like them. So why would I want a laptop with a shitty detachable keyboard?
[13:45] <reisio> fancyfetus: I'm guessing you don't have to detach it unless you have to
[13:45] <reisio> doesn't really matter to me
[13:46] <fancyfetus> reisio, that's true. But there is no denying that it puts the laptop at a whole in a disatvantage.
[13:46] <fancyfetus> Now all the important hardware is in the "screen" and the keyboard is probably not as good as a regular laptop keyboard.
[13:46] <smithzv_> reisio: to clarify, by "after the line" you mean at the end of the line, correct?  Booted, try failsafe again?
[13:46] <reisio> smithzv_: line single
[13:47] <smithzv_> reisio: sorry, let me redo that...
[13:51] <Guest33992> #kali-linux
[13:54] <smithzv_> reisio: with single option I see the same behavior in failsafe
[13:55] <jarchik>  Hi! Could someone help me with network issue. Im usinng ubunt 14.04 in Windows network and each time i started pc, network is not working. Then i have to change network connectors within me and my widows-college, change it back and network is working.
[14:00] <jarchik>  Hi! Could someone help me with network issue. Im usinng Ubuntu 14.04 in Windows network and each time i started pc, network is not working. Then i have to change network connectors within me and my windows-college, change it back and now network is working.
[14:02] <reisio> smithzv_: well boot your live OS then
[14:05] <smithzv_> reisio: okay, right now I only have 13.10 on a thumb drive, you want me to make a 14.04 one first?  Also, note that I can boot the system right now using nouveau, just not in failsafe for some reason.
[14:06] <reisio> smithzv_: oh? Okay then boot using nouveau
[14:07] <smithzv_> reisio: okay, booted
[14:07] <reisio> smithzv_: so the problem is you want nvidia?
[14:08] <smithzv_> reisio: yes (or better performance from nouveau, significantly slower than 13.10)
[14:09] <BobBall> Hey - Does anyone here have more than one instance of 'system-udevd --daemon'?
[14:09] <fancyfetus> reisio, I found one! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KTL21RA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
[14:10] <BobBall> I've got a broken machine which happens to have 5 'system-udevd --daemon' processes running which seems very odd and counter to a couple of 'working' machines
[14:12] <TJ-> BobBall: Does that host use chroots or containers?
[14:13] <gp5st1> Hello, we have an old machine whose harddisk was just moved to a machine with a british keyboard (machine = laptop) the admin password had a # in it.  Now, the # can be typed, but when entering the password it keeps failing
[14:13] <jarchik>  Hi! Could someone help me with network issue. Im usinng Ubuntu 14.04 in Windows network and each time i started pc, network is not working. Then i have to change network connectors within me and my windows-college, change it back and now network is working.
[14:13] <gp5st1> is there a way to get the machine to reboot into single user mode
[14:14] <BobBall> TJ-: No
[14:14] <reisio> gp5st1: sure it wasn't the other char the '#' key had?
[14:14] <reisio> gp5st1: yes, same as ever?
[14:14] <gp5st1> reisio: we type it out in plain text so we can see the #
[14:14] <BobBall> TJ-: (possibly) - we apply a whole bunch of puppet manifets which could be doing anything
[14:14] <BluesKaj> smithzv_, which nvidia gpu?
[14:15] <BobBall> TJ-: No chroots are running at the moment
[14:15] <gp5st1> reisio: It doesn't seem to show the grub screen. forgot that part
[14:15] <reisio> gp5st1: hard to imagine that's the problem
[14:15] <reisio> gp5st1: but just boot it in single user mode or from a live OS and change the pass
[14:15] <smithzv_> BluesKaj: it is a GeForce GT 330M
[14:15] <gp5st1> reisio: i'll give that a shot
[14:15] <gp5st1> forget the power of live cds
[14:15] <reisio> :)
[14:16] <smithzv_> BluesKaj: It also says GT216M in lspci (not sure what that is about)
[14:18] <BluesKaj> smithzv_, you mentioned the 331 driver earlier, have you tried to install it?
[14:18] <TJ-> BobBall: When a chroot does some update that causes it to (re)start a service you often get multiple daemons running, so that is one possibility.
[14:19] <smithzv_> BluesKaj: yes (many different times, in defferent ways)
[14:20] <BluesKaj> smithzv_, and it fails to install or you can't get to the desktop or....?
[14:20] <BobBall> TJ-: Is it a problem?  I just discovered that "udevadm trigger -v" unblocks the system very nicely
[14:20] <smithzv_> BluesKaj: sorry, it installs fine, but upon reboot I get a blank screen after the Ubuntu splash screen (before lightdm or whatever login manager we are using these days)
[14:21] <TJ-> gp5st1: "#" key on GB keyboard is usually the unshifted key to the left of the lower half of the Enter key
[14:21] <BluesKaj> smithzv_, and you can't get to the VT/TTY ?
[14:22] <TJ-> BobBall: Sounds like udev was waiting on something
[14:22] <smithzv_> BluesKaj: nope
[14:22] <Ivan_000> Hello
[14:22] <BobBall> TJ-: Do you have any hints on debugging what it was waiting for?  I've got another 3 servers waiting in the same blocked state for more debugging :)
[14:23] <TJ-> smithzv_: Boot with "nomodeset text" on the kernel's command-line (entered via the GRUB menu entry editor); that should get you a text console without trying to start the X server
[14:23] <smithzv_> TJ-: okay, doing that now
[14:24] <TJ-> BobBall: That sounds a bit weird... Probably won't help but check the udev log, and kern.log, syslog, too
[14:24] <smithzv_> TJ-: Actually, first I need to reinstall nvidia drivers, just a sec
[14:24] <Ivan_000> How do I install tor on Ubuntu
[14:24] <k1l> !tor | Ivan_000
[14:24] <starlight_> Hi folks
[14:25] <starlight_> is there an ATL-TAB (from windows) equivelant in Unity?
[14:25] <starlight_> ALT*
[14:25] <Ivan_000> Thank You ubottu
[14:25] <TJ-> smithzv_: The console should run using VESA text mode without needing the nvidia/nouveau drivers
[14:25] <k1l> starlight_: just press alt+tab