[10:49] <smartboyhw> hi
[10:50] <smartboyhw> For the "n"th time, please join the Ubuntu QA Meeting on #ubuntu-meeting at 1400UTC tmr.
[10:50] <smartboyhw> Chair will be me
[16:00] <smoser> o/
[16:01] <zul> hi ho
[16:01] <Daviey> hola
[16:01] <Daviey> jamespage!
[16:01] <jamespage> o/
[16:01] <Ursinha> o/
[16:01] <jamespage> please tell me I'm not chair today
[16:02] <zul> i was chair last week
[16:02] <arosales> Hello
[16:02] <Daviey> raise your hand in the air, if you failed to update the wiki.. "NEXT MEETING: Tuesday 2012-07-17 at 1600 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting "
[16:02] <Daviey> twice!
[16:02]  * utlemming is guilty
[16:02] <zul> i changed my name....so im at fault for at lest once
[16:02] <Daviey> jamespage: it looks like you are up, can you deal?
[16:03] <jamespage> meh - yeah
[16:03] <jamespage> #startmeeting
[16:03] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 31 16:03:24 2012 UTC.  The chair is jamespage. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:04] <jamespage> although I think someone read the list the wrong way round - I did it in the last two weeks I think
[16:05]  * jamespage kills some stuff to make his machine respond
[16:05] <Daviey> jamespage: zul is next week :)
[16:05] <zul> hah funny
[16:05] <zul> im the furthest way to host a meeting :)
[16:06] <Daviey> zul: no you aren't :/
[16:06] <jamespage> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:06] <jamespage> arosales and daviey to work on trend line reset
[16:06] <jamespage> hows that going guys?
[16:06] <Daviey> longest defer of an item yet.
[16:06] <arosales> jamespage: that is in progress
[16:06] <jamespage> everyone update their blueprint status
[16:06] <arosales> I am working with skaet to get that updated
[16:07] <Daviey> superb
[16:07]  * jamespage pokes everyone
[16:07] <Ursinha> roger that
[16:07] <jamespage> its a good time to replan outstanding work items for the next few milestones....
[16:07] <arosales> +1
[16:07] <arosales> :-)
[16:08] <jamespage> then arosales and Daviey can panic about whats not going to get done :-)
[16:08] <jamespage> anyway
[16:08] <jamespage> #topic Quantal Development
[16:08] <jamespage> #topic Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:09] <Daviey> jamespage: How do things look?
[16:10] <jamespage> couple of quantum bugs still outstanding - bug 1025203 and bug 1023066
[16:10] <jamespage> might point to the new openstack core components not being exercised fully in the lab yet
[16:10] <Daviey> I haven't been adding a significant amount of items in the last week.
[16:11] <Daviey> Has anyone taken the gauntlet of seeing if there are additional things?
[16:11] <jamespage> #topic Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-server.html
[16:11] <Daviey> The silence is pretty loud.
[16:12] <arosales> jamespage: I have a few to bring up
[16:12] <arosales> We are at week 14 of 25 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule) and cresting the half-way point of the release.
[16:12] <arosales> Thus, Blueprints on average should be around the 50% marker. Flagging those blueprints <= 20%
[16:12] <jamespage> sorry this link - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html
[16:12]  * jamespage hands over to arosales
[16:12] <arosales> rbasak: a couple of ARM blueprints need some love
[16:12] <Daviey> erm
[16:13] <arosales> 7% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-server-benchmark-and-performance
[16:13] <arosales> 0% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-arm-server-storage-testing
[16:13] <Daviey> ubuntu-server.html is no good.
[16:13] <arosales> Daviey:  did you have a comment?
[16:13] <Daviey> we've achieved 0% on community-q-irc-workshops, according to that
[16:13] <arosales> Daviey: I am also working skaet to get a overall topic for blueprints for Ubuntu server tracking
[16:13] <Daviey> community-q-unity-docs :(
[16:14] <Daviey> ok, super!
[16:14] <arosales> so hopefully that will help the reporting in the future
[16:14] <arosales> rbasak: I know you are just back in this week, but can you follow up with the arm blueprints?
[16:14] <arosales> 0% utlemming https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-images
[16:14] <rbasak> arosales: no problem, following up now
[16:14] <arosales> rbasak: thanks
[16:15] <arosales> Ursinha: I think this one is just pending reports which I think you may be working on: 20% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review
[16:15] <arosales> jamespage:  ISO test reviews: 17% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-server-iso-tests-review
[16:15] <Ursinha> arosales, yes, I need to update my blueprints accordingly, will do that now
[16:15] <arosales> Ursinha: thanks
[16:16] <jamespage> arosales, most of the blueprint is targetted to beta-1 so not worried
[16:16] <arosales> jamespage: ok
[16:16] <arosales> Some Juju items in progress, a few under 20%
[16:17] <arosales> 10% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests
[16:17] <arosales> 19% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-best-practices
[16:17] <arosales> Spamaps ^ for the logs as I think jimbaker and m_3 are out
[16:17] <arosales> 14% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-libvirt
[16:18] <arosales> don't see hallyn here though
[16:18] <arosales> 14% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-ha
[16:18] <arosales> roaksoax: ^
[16:18] <arosales> rbasak: are you getting some good feedback on your apt testing?
[16:18] <arosales> 0% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-apt-improvements
[16:18] <roaksoax> waiting on Debian maintainer to see whether I update some stuff myself or take them from Debian
[16:18] <arosales> roaksoax: thanks
[16:19] <Daviey> So.. i'm expecting there is WI's not captured suitable for http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-servercloud-infrastructure-deployment.html
[16:19] <roaksoax> arosales: I much rather do from debian, otherwise, will take care of it next week
[16:19] <Daviey> we aren't that far along :)
[16:19] <rbasak> I hit a bug with the apt by-hash mirror script. I've been working on this today. Expect a call for testing in a day or two.
[16:19] <arosales> Daviey: wow, that progress looks good
[16:19] <arosales> for precise though, right?
[16:19] <jamespage> hrm - that was last release
[16:20] <arosales> rbasak: thanks for working on apt :-)
[16:20] <Daviey> jamespage: you spotted the intentional error
[16:20] <arosales> utlemming: another one for you
[16:20] <arosales> 0% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-push-to-the-clouds
[16:20] <utlemming> that's actually inprogress and almost done
[16:21] <arosales> adam_g: I am guessing we can't yet start on the charms yet probably why this one is at 0%  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-charms
[16:21] <jamespage> all good for the beta-1 target then
[16:21] <Daviey> smoser: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-init-utils ?
[16:21] <arosales> utlemming: ok, I see  a few of those are in progress, thanks
[16:21] <smoser> well, i've made some progress on some of those things.
[16:21] <smoser> i thin honestly many will move to "DO NOT DO"
[16:21] <smoser> or POSTPONED
[16:21] <Daviey> or CBA
[16:21] <Daviey> :)
[16:22] <zul> arosales: openstack is in a state of flux on ubuntu, hope to get it back on track this week
[16:22] <arosales> ok, and charms follow that, gotcha
[16:22] <Daviey> shall we progress?
[16:22] <arosales> jamespage: those are the ones I had
[16:22] <jamespage> ok moving on then
[16:22] <jamespage> #topic 12.04.1 Development (jamespage & smoser)
[16:23] <smoser> i think that roaksoax has been banging this drum for maas
[16:23] <Daviey> jamespage / smoser: What is stopping 12.04.1 shipping today?
[16:23] <smoser> which was the one thing that really was still on our list
[16:23] <roaksoax> yeah
[16:23] <roaksoax> one of the things that concerns me is the readyness of MAAS without cobbler
[16:24] <roaksoax> we were expecting to have things a couple weeks ago but things are still in progress
[16:24] <jamespage> I think that is probably the biggest concern
[16:24] <smoser> list is at http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html
[16:24] <Daviey> right
[16:24] <roaksoax> hopefiully by the end of this week we will see something shiny without cobbler
[16:24] <roaksoax> other than that, I'm doing weekly uploads of MAAS for precise in testing PPA
[16:24] <roaksoax> this week's will contain the DNS stuff ready
[16:25] <roaksoax> ah, and before I forget, python-celery in Precise is in universe, and we will need it in main
[16:25] <roaksoax> before we can successfully SRU MAAS
[16:25] <jamespage> roaksoax, I'm not convinced that this is going to make the cutoffs for 12.04.1
[16:26] <jamespage> that seems to be alot todo; and its not that far away....
[16:26] <jamespage> anyway
[16:26] <jamespage> anything else for 12.04.1?
[16:27] <jamespage> ...
[16:27] <jamespage> ..
[16:27] <roaksoax> it is indeed a lot to do
[16:27] <jamespage> .
[16:27] <jamespage> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:27] <jamespage> anything anyone wants to raise re events?
[16:28] <arosales> nothing on the juju front in the next couple of weeks
[16:28] <arosales> CloudOpen at the end of August is the next on the list
[16:29] <jamespage> great
[16:29] <jamespage> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:29] <jamespage> hggdh - around?
[16:30] <jamespage> mmm - maybe not - is adam_g around? maybe he could give us an update on Openstack CI activities?
[16:30] <jamespage> nope - OK moving on then
[16:30] <Daviey> jamespage: adam_g wanted a few of us to have a separate chat.. probably a little detailed for here.
[16:30] <jamespage> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:31]  * Daviey broadsides smb with bug 1031090.
[16:31] <jamespage> smb - your are on
[16:31] <jamespage> yeah - that one....
[16:31]  * smb totally forgot about the meeting start
[16:31] <smb> Daviey, its a bug...
[16:32] <Daviey> smb: is it fixed :)
[16:32] <smb> Daviey, loading kvm module in a guest???
[16:32] <jamespage> working in precise apparently
[16:32] <Daviey> smb: nested kvm
[16:33] <jamespage> smb - did you have anything else for today
[16:33] <jamespage> ?
[16:33] <smb> There might be more info in dmesg...
[16:33] <smb> jamespage, No not really
[16:33] <Daviey> smb: dmesg is silent
[16:33] <smb> sorry
[16:34] <jamespage> smb, np - I think that bug is pretty important as its blocking how the security team test openstack stuff...
[16:34] <jamespage> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:34] <rbasak> Calxeda ECX-1000 support is in precise-proposed. It should hit precise-updates in a few days.
[16:34] <rbasak> Any questions for me?
[16:34] <zul> ecx-1000?
[16:34] <rbasak> That's the official name for highbank I think
[16:34] <zul> ah ok
[16:35] <Daviey> rbasak: so.. was talking with apw yesterday about including the device tree for qemu usage
[16:35] <Daviey> hopefully that should be included in the next precise kernel aswell
[16:35] <rbasak> current kernels look like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1121679/
[16:36] <rbasak> Not sure what version that change will/has go/gone into
[16:36] <Daviey> rbasak: not landed yet
[16:36] <rbasak> OK
[16:37] <rbasak> Proposed installer images for highbank are here: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise-proposed/main/installer-armhf/current/images/highbank/netboot/
[16:39] <jamespage> #endmeeting
[16:39] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 31 16:39:58 2012 UTC.
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[16:40] <jamespage> ermm - the bot went a bit quiet on me for a bit then
[16:41] <arosales> thanks for chairing jamespage
[16:42] <jamespage> gah - missed all of rbasak's update
[16:42] <Daviey> thanks jamespage
[16:43] <arosales> jamespage: I think the logs captured it
[16:43] <jamespage> yeah pretty much
[16:43] <arosales> unless there were any open discussion items  I think that was a wrap
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 31 17:00:18 2012 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Quantal
[17:00] <cking> o/
[17:00] <herton> o/
[17:00] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <ppisati> \o/
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:01] <ppisati> Q/omap4: porting of tilt-3.4 [1] on top of Q 3.5 master continues.
[17:01] <ppisati> The resulting kernel is available here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ppisati/ubuntu-quantal.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ti-omap4-tilt-34-on-35
[17:01] <ppisati> The entire patchset is available here: http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/ti-omap4-tilt-34-on-35/tilt-3.4/
[17:01] <ppisati> The "done" directory contains the patches i already ported(646), "skipped" contains the patches left for later evaluation(27) and "already" contains the patches that were already found upstream(52) - 725 out of 1708 patches were handled in total, so far so good.
[17:01] <ppisati> [1]: http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/andygreen/kernel-tilt.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/tilt-3.4
[17:01] <ppisati> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:02] <ogasawara> just a sec...
[17:02] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.10-beta-1.html
[17:02] <ogasawara> || apw         || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 3 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 4 work items ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 4 work items ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-versions-and-flavors || 1 work item ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || bjf         || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || cking       || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || cooloney    || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || ogasawara   || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 4 work items ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || tgardner    || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> If your name is in the above table, please review your Beta-1 work items.
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:03] <ogasawara> We've recently uploaded the 3.5.0-7.7 Quantal kernel to the
[17:03] <ogasawara> quantal-proposed pocket.  This upload includes misc config updates and
[17:03] <ogasawara> bug fixes.  This will also be uploaded to the q-lts-backport [1] PPA to
[17:03] <ogasawara> help facilitate testing of the 12.10 kernel in 12.04.  We welcome anyone
[17:03] <ogasawara> to please install, test, and let us know your feedback.
[17:03] <ogasawara> [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport
[17:03] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:03] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Aug 30 - Beta 1 (~4 weeks)
[17:03] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)
[17:03] <sconklin> == 2012-07-31 (weekly) ==
[17:03] <sconklin> Currently we have 96 CVEs on our radar, with one CVE added and two retired this week.
[17:03] <sconklin> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:03] <sconklin> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:03] <sconklin> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix)
[17:04] <henrix> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (July 31):
[17:04] <henrix>
[17:04] <henrix>  * Hardy - Nothing in this cycle
[17:04] <henrix>  * Lucid - In Testing; 2 CVEs; (16 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Natty - In Testing; 3 CVEs; (6 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Oneiric - In Verification; 2 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (101 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Precise - In Verification; 3 CVEs; 3 upstream stable release(s); (212 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>
[17:04] <henrix> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:04] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:04] <henrix>
[17:04] <henrix> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:04] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:04] <henrix>
[17:04] <henrix> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:04] <henrix>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock
[17:04] <henrix>
[17:04] <henrix> The week of Sept. 6 is the week the last Natty kernel will be built.
[17:04] <henrix> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:05] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:05] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:05] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 31 17:05:30 2012 UTC.
[17:05] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-31-17.00.moin.txt
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[17:05] <apw> jsalisbury, thanks
[17:05] <sconklin> thanks jsalisbury
[17:06] <cking> efficient as ever


[01:31] <chakravanti> why is the snap store missing software?
[01:33] <coffeecow> Hello! After an update to my AVR and Ubuntu I am no longer able to use my AVR like a bluetooth speaker! Now I get a segfault in bluetoothd error 4 when I try to connect after pairing.
[01:34] <tomreyn> !details
[02:11] <fannagoganna> hi, maybe have an "strace on processes may illuminate something" question. Running "strace ls" and other straightforward, resource-light commands. I get minutes and minutes of "mmap(NULL, 8388608, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, 18, 0xefa000), munmap(0x7fdaa86b5000, 8388608)         = 0". Any idea what might be causing this, or is it an empty symptom -- say in a person, a tummy ache could be indigestion, could be cancer?
[02:22] <tomreyn> what, if anything, is the problem you're trying to solve?
[02:22] <tomreyn> fannagoganna: ^
[02:31] <fannagoganna> @tomreyn high level, why is my machine so slow (even for nominally resource-light processes), when running "top" or looking at syslog does not indicate obvious problems?
[02:31] <bparker> without more info we could only guess
[02:31] <bparker> I'll say hard drive, if it's not SSD
[02:31] <Netwolf> fannagoganna: show you screenshot of top
[02:32] <Netwolf> also yes disk writes or the disk dying
[02:32] <bparker> also what task is it exactly that becomes slow, and when
[02:32] <bparker> and for how long
[02:32] <Netwolf> see all of these may need very seperate tools
[02:33] <Netwolf> i miss truss in solaris
[02:33] <Netwolf> also solaris
[02:43] <Jayden> hi
[03:27] <fannagoganna> @netwolf here is a screenshot
[03:27] <fannagoganna> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WVR3e4Yc/Screen%20Shot%202020-06-20%20at%208.26.48%20PM.png
[03:27] <fannagoganna> @bparker tasks like "ls", they become slow "randomly, whenever"
[03:28] <fannagoganna> I suppose correct way to move forward is to diagnose why "ls" is slow, and fix. That's a priority zero issue for me.
[03:36] <matsaman> fannagoganna: so you boot up your system fresh, you run 'ls' on a directory that doesn't have zillions of files, and it takes ages?
[03:38] <fannagoganna> @matsaman that is correct.
[03:39] <fannagoganna> when I do "strace ls" I get pairs of up to 80 "mmap..munmap". Sometimes machine takes a few seconds to go from one "mmap..munmap" to the next.
[03:41] <matsaman> fannagoganna: what about 'find . -xdev -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1'
[03:46] <bparker> what about a command that doesn't need to look at/hit the disk
[03:46] <fannagoganna> like ping?
[03:46] <bparker> preferably a ping binary copied to a tmpfs
[03:46] <bparker> but yea
[03:49] <fannagoganna> I haven't copied a binary to the tmpfs, but ping seems to work fine
[03:49] <fannagoganna> as in, no network issues, runs smoothly
[04:24] <fannagoganna> hmm, although I have an LVM setup over several disks, I have unmounted an LVM partition that largely covers a failing hard disk. Now operations are completely smooth.
[05:06] <IonTau> hi everyone
[05:07] <IonTau> any suggestions to work out a networking issue where the link is up but all networking is not working
[05:09] <IonTau> the issue is weird and hard to work back from...
[05:09] <IonTau> so the phyiscal link is up
[05:09] <IonTau> but all networking, incoming and outgoing stops working
[05:13] <matsaman> IonTau: like you can't even reach your router?
[05:15] <IonTau> matsaman, yes...
[05:15] <IonTau> just waiting for it fail again to traceroute to make sure it's not a routing issue
[05:15] <IonTau> nothing in dmesg
[05:17] <IonTau> at this staging starting to take wild guesses what it might be
[05:19] <pymagic> where are these mounts coming from: gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/1000/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000) ?
[05:19] <pymagic> I dont remember installing fuse/gvfs
[05:19] <pymagic> I am getting these errors on updatedb -> /usr/bin/find: '/run/user/1000/gvfs': Permission denied
[05:19] <pymagic>
[06:31] <IonTau> oh... looks like the network driver is crashing
[08:31] <dex1983> hi
[08:36] <dex1983> how I can mount this sort of partition in ubuntu
[08:36] <dex1983> https://pastebin.com/ycGAphi5
[08:36] <dex1983> it was not mounted automatically with ubuntu lts installation :-(
[09:06] <zetheroo> something is waking up my laptop from suspend. I cannot find anything online about this. When the laptop (T450s) is in suspend I can hear pidgin connecting every so often, and then when I do open the laptop lid after some hours I see all the Freenode connection messages in pidgin.
[09:08] <zetheroo> maybe this output from journalctl helps? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/CYkTP2xZ4q/
[09:52] <tomreyn> zetheroo: this log starts with the system being resumed, there's no indication on what happened before that, no pause on these logs.
[09:53] <tomreyn> (i.e. provide more logs, covering the point you initiated suspend to the point where it returned from suspend)
[09:56] <zetheroo>  tomreyn: this?  https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/ZZCCBYX7r9/
[09:58] <zetheroo> I can see that ^ happening again and again
[10:00] <tomreyn> this, too, doesn't cover the full range, but it does cover a log gap. apparently it never fully entered suspend
[10:00] <tomreyn> !acpi_osi
[10:00] <tomreyn> other than that, a bios upgrade can help, too
[10:03] <zetheroo> I only experienced this right after doing the upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04
[10:05] <tomreyn> this upgrade isn't supported, yet. maybe try a fresh install and see whether it also happens there.
[10:07] <zetheroo> and it seems I already have the latest BIOS for my laptop
[10:07] <zetheroo> yeah, I was really hoping not to have to do a fresh install :/
[10:12] <dex1983> anyone has an idea?
[10:13] <zap0> my ubuntu machine for no reason just logged off, and now the user and password don't work anymore.
[10:13] <zap0> wtf is that about?
[10:18] <tomreyn> dex1983: this is an LVM2 PV (a logical volume manager physical volume).
[10:18] <dex1983> ok how I could mount it?
[10:18] <MrElendig> zap0: error being?
[10:19] <zap0> i don't know, i turned away from it for ~90 secs.   when apt-get update  was running.   when i looked back it's logged out
[10:20] <tomreyn> dex1983: it's not a file system you can mount directly. use lvm commands (pv*, vg*, lv*).
[10:21] <dex1983> oh ok
[10:22] <tomreyn> zap0: if your password no longer works, you can reboot to recovery and login without password there.
[10:23] <zap0> ok, what is the magic keys for doing that?
[10:23] <tomreyn> !recovery
[10:23] <tomreyn> make sure you note down the time when it roughly happened so you can review the logs around when it happened later
[10:24] <tomreyn> sysstemctl -b -1   to view the logs from the previous kernel session (i.e. before last reboot)
[10:26] <tomreyn> or e.g.    jounrnalctl --since "2020-06-20 23:00:00" --until "2020-06-21 10:00:00"     to limit output to a specific period.
[10:27] <tomreyn> zetheroo: you can install to removable media instead, thus not touching your existing installation.
[10:27] <dex1983> hmm but how I can mount it getting only got this: mount: /media/storage: /dev/ubuntu-vg is not a block device.
[10:29] <tomreyn> dex1983: vg is a collection of logicial volumes, which are the LVM equivalent of partitions.
[10:30] <tomreyn> you do not run the mount command against anything but file systems
[10:31] <tomreyn> it's common that logical volumes will contain file systems (but theny don't need to, and not immediately, there could be more intermediate layers, such as dm-crypt/LUKS block device encyption)
[10:36] <dex1983> hmm ok
[10:37] <MrElendig> dex1983: what was the exact mount command you ran?
[11:12] <BlueShark_> Hi, I sometimes receive a "Ubuntu 20.04 has experienced an internal error" message. The Title is "gnome-control-centre crashed with SIGSEV". Is this a known bug?
[11:16] <tomreyn> BlueShark_: this message will occur with many different errors, it's not yet enough to tell whether this is a known error. you can inspect the contents of the /var/crash/ directory (e.g. run apport-unpack against the recently created gnome-control-center crash log, if it's still there) to get more technical details (it's very technical, though).
[11:19] <tomreyn> BlueShark_: if you chose to report the problem or it was reported automatically, this error will also show up on the list of errors your system reported. this list can be viewed in your web browser when you run    x-www-browser https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/$(sudo cat /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id)    in your terminal
[11:22] <BlueShark_> tomreyn: I did `apport-unpack /var/crash/_usr_bin_gnome-control-center.1000.crash /tmp/logx` - and it displayed an error: "ValueError: ['separator'] has no binary content"
[11:23] <BlueShark_> Is that expected?
[11:23] <BlueShark_> It created a bunch of files in the destination directory though.
[11:23] <tomreyn> BlueShark_: if you'll share the url (which contans a key which has been generated to uniquely identify your ubuntu installation) i *may* be able to tell whether this bug was previously reported. alternatively (or in the meantime), you can search for existing bug reports on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center
[11:23] <tomreyn> BlueShark_: i would think this is more of a non-critical warning
[11:23] <BlueShark_> tomreyn: I reported it as well.
[11:27] <zetheroo>  tomreyn: here it is happening again. what other logs would be interesting? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/DsC84mxMvw/
[11:27] <tomreyn> BlueShark_: you seem to have sent me a PM, I drop those by default. i set a temporary exception for you now.
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> BlueShark_: wich kernel are you on?
[11:37] <tomreyn> BlueShark_: thanks for sending the url in private, i'll look into zetheroo's report now, then come back to yours, please stand by.
[11:39] <tomreyn> zetheroo: do a full reboot, then enter suspend, wait for it to wake up by itself, then post a full kernel log: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:39] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:42] <tomreyn> BlueShark_: i see it's a fresh installation according to the report. so i guess the ID is rather machine specific, not installation specific. sorry, i wasn't aware of that.
[11:43] <BlueShark_> No worries.
[11:44] <tomreyn> BlueShark_: the error situation failed to be recorded properly. this *may* be due to the proprietary nvidia driver (which can't be automatically debugged).
[11:44] <BlueShark_> My graphics card is AMD
[11:49] <tomreyn> ok, so this is a red herring, i guess. this message is pronted on top of the retrace report: "This problem failed to retrace because there was no crash signature after retracing. The following packages are missing debug symbols: libnvidia-gl-440."
[11:50] <tomreyn> but this probably just means as little as "for unknown reasons, these crash reports were incomplete."
[11:55] <tomreyn> BlueShark_: if you'll review your systemd journal you'll notice that amdgpu (AMD graphics driver) specific errors were logged. i only see a small fraction of those, consider uploading a complete log: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:55] <tomreyn> example (from X startup):   (EE) client bug: timer event4 debounce short: scheduled expiry is in the past (-6ms), your system is too slow
[11:56] <tomreyn> your system is very current and not too slow in terms of hardware, so this will be some firmware / kernel / driver issue.
[11:58] <tomreyn> trying updated X + mesa + amdgpu + kernel (sometimes available from a !PPA) *may* help with stabiity issues with newer hardware.
[12:04] <neildugan> can I use sshfs to mount one directory on more than one machine?  if I dont edit the same file on both.
[12:22] <dirtwash> are some unbutu repos down? my apt update is hanging waiting for headers
[12:23] <dirtwash> dunno where its supposed to come from
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> dirtwash: could you share a pastebin with your apt output please?
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> volunteers can take a look for you
[12:24] <dirtwash> might be DC mirror issue hm
[12:24] <dirtwash> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HNyNssfjW7/
[12:24] <dirtwash> i guess its the mirror
[12:25] <dirtwash> or where are headers coming from
[12:26] <tomreyn> neildugan: i don't see why you could not. sshfs is a user space file system, though, and thus performance will always suffer. (it's also technically awkward.)
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> dirtwash: can you try a sudo apt update without mirror.hetzner.de as a test?
[12:27] <dirtwash> lotuspsychje: hm its working after all, ust takes a while
[12:27] <dirtwash> lotuspsychje: never mind! thanks anyway, you seem very helpful for people asking semi-silly questions ;)
[12:28] <dirtwash> anyone got an idea how to debug a hanging apt install, even though I am using -y and noninteractive mode?
[12:28] <dirtwash> unrelated to my update issue
[12:28] <dirtwash> if I run it manually it works fine, thats why I am confused
[12:29] <tomreyn> for http downloads: apt-get -o 'Debug::Acquire::http=1' update
[12:30] <dirtwash> hm but its  hanging right now, guess theres no way to see why
[12:30] <dirtwash> apt log doesnt show anything either
[12:31] <dirtwash> weird because im only installing base packages:  apt-get -y install apt-transport-https ca-certificates curl gnupg-agent software-properties-common
[12:31] <tomreyn> i'm seeing problems with tu dresden mirrors currently. <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:31] <dirtwash> if i run it manually again it works no issue
[12:31] <dirtwash> but via ansible its hanging, the apt process, and I dont know why
[12:32] <dirtwash> or maybe the mirror is super slow hm
[12:32] <tomreyn> de.archive.ubuntu.com points there
[12:41] <tomreyn> dirtwash: mirror.hetzner.de resolves to both an IPv4 and an IPv6 address. it's possible that one of them is available why the other isn't
[12:46] <egrain> i need a little help. E: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libe/libepsilon/libepsilon1_0.9.2+dfsg-4_amd64.deb  Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:47] <egrain> trying to install blender.
[12:48] <egrain> though sudo apt-get update also doesn't seem to work now that i checked.      0% [Waiting for headers]
[12:49] <egrain> isn't a resolv.conf issue. ping works. do i have to change the mirror list. is there a mirror list? how does this work
[12:49] <egrain> ?
[12:49] <tomreyn> egrain: try a different apt mirror for now, this one (de.archive.ubuntu.com) is currently broken. i just reported it following the instructions on the channel /topic of #ubuntu-mirrors
[12:49] <tomreyn> !mirrors
[12:50] <tomreyn> sorry, ignore this message by ubottu
[12:50] <egrain> nice of you guys to have a whole channel dedicated to this.
[12:50] <tomreyn> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[12:50] <tomreyn> this lists mirror servers you can use. look for germany if that's topographically close to you.
[12:52] <tomreyn> the mirrors your system uses can be edited in software-properties-gtk (GUI) or using   sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list  (terminal)
[12:52] <egrain> i have that one in there: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal main restricted   among others. lots of comments.
[12:53] <egrain> hm, there is no list. i guess i have to add one manually then?
[12:55] <raddy> Hello
[12:55] <raddy> I am unable to import ssh keys in Gnome Keyring
[12:55] <JFalken> Greets everyone. I'm trying to get the right nvidia drivers loaded for my laptop running 20.04. When I run 'ubuntu-drivers list' I get a warning ' has bad syntax: version number does not start with digit' Not sure if this is related. Can anyone help?
[12:55] <raddy> import button is grayed out
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> raddy: what gives: sudo lshw -C video ?
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: ^
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> raddy: sorry not for you
[12:57] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, Looking for something specific? Or should I pastebin the whole output?
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: yeah pastebin please
[12:58] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GnzM5JVHzb/
[12:59] <egrain> anyway, worked. i used us.archive. thanks a bunch.
[12:59] <JFalken> 2nd display is an external monitor
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: these are 2 seperate graphics or a hybrid card nvidia intel?
[13:00] <tomreyn> egrain: thanks for reporting back. i've also pinged the mirror admin on irc
[13:00] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, I believe 2 separate.  New laptop I didn't buy.  Not sure.
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: can you try software&sources tab adittional drivers, see if your drivers show up there?
[13:03] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, it says it's using NVIDIA driver metapackage from nvidia-driver-440.  That means I should be good?
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: no, cause lshw says your nvidia is unclaimed, something makes it not load driver
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: can you share your dmesg in a pastebin please?
[13:04] <JFalken> Sure, one sec
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: also its just 440 showing or do you see other nvidia driver versions in additional drivers list?
[13:04] <BluesKaj> looks like optimus
[13:06] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, it lists 435 and 390 as well.  Plus Nouveau
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: ok tnx
[13:07] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, https://termbin.com/3mf3
[13:08] <JFalken> And yes.. I upgraded the kernel to fix a network driver issue =(
[13:08] <kel_> does ubuntu 20 support hdmi in so i can connect a ps4 to a laptop?
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: lets try to get you booted into 20.04 default kernel first
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: so we can rule out its kernel related
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[13:09] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, I finally got my network card to stop dropping off the network with the kernel I'm on.  I'm a little reluctant to go back to 5.4
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: its just as a test
[13:09] <JFalken> Ok, cool
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: if it doesnt fix, id reccomend going to driver 435
[13:09] <JFalken> I still have it installed, I can just change it in grub?
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: yeah, just one time boot into 5.4 with holding shift at boot, enter grub, pick
[13:11] <JFalken> Ugh, I'm on the laptop now.. Let me reboot and I'll be back!
[13:17] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, sorry took a couple tries (and used esc key)
[13:17] <JFalken> $ uname -r
[13:17] <JFalken> 5.4.0-37-generic
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: check if driver loaded again with sudo lshw -C video
[13:18] <JFalken> Still says UNCLAIMED
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: allrighty, lets try a switch to driver version 435 then
[13:19] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, and then another reboot?
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> yes
[13:19] <BlueShark_> `lsmod | grep amd` - this shows some output. Does that mean I don't need to install proprietary drivers from AMD website?
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> BlueShark_: sudo lshw -C video
[13:20] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, 5.4 kernel again?
[13:20] <BlueShark_> lotuspsychje: https://termbin.com/shqv
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> BlueShark_: driver=amdgpu is loaded
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: well we proved its also happening on kernel 5.4 now, so you can choose now
[13:21] <BlueShark_> lotuspsychje: I didn't install it manually, so it auto-installed?
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> BlueShark_: ubuntu driver modules always try to auto install at booting
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> auto load
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> if possible/available
[13:22] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, I got an error applying changes: pk-client-error-quark: Error while installing package
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: you have external ppa's that could interfere with the install?
[13:23] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, I think the only external ppa is for network card backports
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: wich command did you use?
[13:25] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, someone walked me through it.. I git it from kernel.org github
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> sorry?
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> i mean wich command did you use to switch nvidia drivers
[13:26] <JFalken> Sorry, still on my first cup of coffee.. I did it via software & updates
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> ah
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> does it show loaded?
[13:26] <JFalken> It says installed nvidia-dkms-435 package post-installation script returned an error
[13:27] <JFalken> But no, it still has 440 selected
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: ok lets try: sudo apt purge nvidia*
[13:28] <JFalken> E: Unable to locate package nvidia*
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: this will make you fallback to nouveau, then reboot and !nomodeset (if needed) to get in your system and try installing 435 again
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> yikes
[13:28] <JFalken> That can't be right tho.. apt list shows they are installed
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: is your system up to date?
[13:29] <JFalken> Yessir
[13:30] <JFalken> Also, fwiw.. apt list shows: nvidia-driver-435/focal,now 435.21-0ubuntu7 amd64 [installed]
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: try a reboot, lets see what happens
[13:30] <JFalken> ok, brb
[13:32] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, when I logged in I got an error saying system program problem detected
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: what does it say when you unfold details?
[13:33] <JFalken> I only had an option to report errors or cancel
[13:34] <JFalken> However software & updates shows 435 driver now
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: sudo lshw -C video
[13:34] <JFalken> Still unclaimed =(
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> not good
[13:35] <JFalken> I'm telling you, this laptop has been a huge pain in the ass
[13:35] <JFalken> Even with a fresh install, I had tons of network card issues as well
[13:36] <JFalken> Any other suggestions?
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: well, some brands have a major pain with intel wifi/realtek combo's
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: what was the last time you recall nvidia graphics were working on this system?
[13:37] <JFalken> I don't know if they ever have.  This all started from trying to figure out why the fans are still running during suspend.  That's how I noticed the issue.
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> wich brand of laptop is this?
[13:37] <JFalken> MSI
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> right, bios version doesnt seem that old neither hmmz
[13:39] <JFalken> Yeah, pretty new BIOS, new OS, new kernel.. I'm out of ideas =(
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: could try the 390 too, but might get into same dkms issue
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> also your GTX card should get more pleased with higher nvidia versions
[13:40] <JFalken> Is there something newer than 440?
[13:41] <JFalken> I guess I can google that
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: well there is the ubuntu graphics ppa, wich provides the latest driver versions
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: but i would not reccomend, until we find the root reason of why your nvidia modules doesnt load
[13:42] <JFalken> Looks like 440 is the latest in that PPA anyway
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> ppa one is .26
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> the one from ubuntu repos is .21 so it seems
[13:43] <JFalken> Ah
[13:43] <JFalken> Think it would make any difference?
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: no, as i say, we need to find the reason why first
[13:44] <JFalken> Got it
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: what happens when you pick nouveau in additional drivers?
[13:44] <Jayden> Hello
[13:44] <Jayden> I wish I didnt have to log in every time I use hexchat
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> Jayden: use the SASL method
[13:45] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, I can give it a try, but I think I disabled it in grub.  I assume I'll have to remove that modset?
[13:45] <Jayden> Wtf is SASL?
[13:46] <Jayden> JFalken I try to set a grub theme but it never applies... Even a background picture doesnt work
[13:46] <Jayden> I have been troubleshooting for days
[13:47] <JFalken> Jayden, I used to have it on an old dual boot machine.  Currently trying to figure out nvidia driver issues =(
[13:47] <MrElendig> Jayden: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/hexchat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Authentication_and_Security_Layer
[13:47] <JFalken> But lotuspsychje has been super helpful and patient so far :)
[13:47] <neildugan> how do I find out why a nfs server is not exporting a directory.  "exportfs -a" list the directory at the correct IP range.
[13:47] <Jayden> I dont have driver issues
[13:48] <Jayden> I am not that advanced
[13:48] <Jayden> I only know few terminal commands
[13:48] <JFalken> This new laptop has driver issues =(
[13:48] <Jayden> Took so long to find out how to run a bin file
[13:48] <JFalken> (Among other issues)
[13:48] <Jayden> This laptop has integrated graphics :(
[13:49] <Jayden> and a 1 TB 5k RPM hard drive
[13:49] <Jayden> Intel core i3
[13:49] <Jayden> Its always loud
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: can you pastebin the whole output after: sudo apt install nvidia-driver-390
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> Jayden: please only ubuntu issues here
[13:49] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, sure.  Please hold
[13:50] <Jayden> Whats the keyboard shortcut for terminal
[13:50] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, "nvidia-driver-390 : Depends: xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-390 (= 390.132-0ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed"
[13:50] <neildugan> Jayden, <ctrl><alt>T
[13:50] <Jayden> Jfalken, Let me remind you that Drivers arent REQUIRED
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: pastebin your sources.list and sources.list.d
[13:51] <Jayden> My dad told me linux didnt need drivers
[13:53] <leftyfb> Jayden: all hardware requires drivers
[13:53] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HvmYctxMYK/
[13:53] <Jayden> I use TunnelBear VPN
[13:53] <leftyfb> Jayden: do you have a support question?
[13:54] <Jayden> Yeah
[13:54] <Jayden> Why is it that when I try to connect to my VPN it asks me for password a thousand times and fails to connect
[13:54] <leftyfb> Jayden: does it connect one of those thousand times?
[13:54] <Jayden> nope
[13:55] <Jayden> fails at the end
[13:55] <leftyfb> Jayden: did it ever work?
[13:55] <Jayden> It used to work
[13:55] <neildugan> how do I find out why a nfs server is not exporting a directory (permission denied).  "exportfs -a" list the directory at the correct IP range.
[13:55] <Jayden> But after shutting off and turning back on it never worked
[13:55] <leftyfb> Jayden: are you typing the password correct? Do you have if configured correctly? Did you try contacting TunnelBear support?
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: please lets try disable all external ppa's and try again with nvidia drivers
[13:56] <Jayden> I am putting that password in
[13:56] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, how do I do that? =)
[13:56] <Jayden> I tried connecting to other countries also that didnt work
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | JFalken
[13:56] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, this won't remove my network drivers?
[13:57] <JFalken> Also, should I remove each one by one?
[13:58] <JFalken> I know I definitely don't need the first one. I'll remove that now
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: perhaps leave your network tweak enabled
[14:00] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gMynwrDQrC/ =(
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-5.6.17-050617-generic is not s
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> upported
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 5.6.17-050617-generic (x86_
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> 64)
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: try to ppapurge all your external ppa's and boot back into 5.4 and try there installing nvidia drivers
[14:04] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, says it can't find the package list for the first one
[14:04] <JFalken> I'll try to go back to the 5.4 kernel and try?
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: yeah i would play on 5.4 as things conflict on your 5.6 so it seems
[14:05] <JFalken> Can you remind me how to make 5.4 default so I don't have to keep going through grub to pick?
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: well if you messing with !mainline, it will always try to pick latest kernel as default
[14:06] <JFalken> Ah
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: but in your case your wifi gets fixed in 5.6, if you purge 5.6 you dont get online anymore
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> so choices..
[14:07] <bjarne333> My digital ocean box suddenly become unresponsive. The tcp connections are setup and nmap shows e.g. port 80 and 443 open, but communication on those connections times out. SSH also times out. help?
[14:08] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, tbh.. I don't care that much about the drivers if I can just get the fans to stop while in suspend.  But I'm not sure if they are related issues
[14:08] <Jayden> Having fans off when suspended is a bad idea
[14:09] <Jayden> Having the fans on is useful because your computer will be nice and cool next time you hop on
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: my approach would be working systematicly, playing on the default kernel as base, if something doesnt work, file a bug about it
[14:09] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, fair enough.  I'll roll back to 5.4 and go from there.  What's the easiest way to do that?
[14:10] <JFalken> Just with mainline?
[14:10] <Jayden> How do I create a Freenode channel
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: you got 5.4 installed already, so if you want it default again, think purging all higher kernels will set you back
[14:11] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, ok.. I'll boot back to 5.4, remove 5.6, see if I can remove PPAs.  Anything else?
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: no, we need to fix that dkms conflict first
[14:12] <JFalken> Ok, lemme start there. Are you going to be around?
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> sure
[14:12] <JFalken> Excellent. Back in a few.
[14:12] <Actual> I wrote this in #lubuntu but nobody is alive. Can someone explain to me why Lubuntu is not supporting firmware for older computers, when old computers are their main useage
[14:12] <Actual> >.<
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> Actual: its sunday today, things get a little bit slower in response
[14:13] <Actual> =Gotcha
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> Actual: whats not working exactly?
[14:14] <Actual> Worship the world or just taking a note from Judeochristians and using it as a day off?
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> Actual: lets not
[14:14] <Actual> My fucking WiFi, of all the things
[14:14] <Actual> No problem. Dropped.
[14:17] <Actual> Luckily Parrot, in its infinite wisdom is kicking lubuntu's ass.
[14:18] <Jayden> https://pastebin.com/103f6zax
[14:18] <Actual> lol!
[14:18] <Actual> Moo.
[14:18] <Jayden> Lol
[14:24] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, I got rid of 5.6.. back to running on 5.4
[14:24] <JFalken> And I removed the PPA I know I didn't need
[14:25] <JFalken> lshw still shows unclaimed
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: ok try to switch/purge/install nvidia drivers now
[14:25] <JFalken> From additional drivers?
[14:26] <JFalken> (additional drivers shows it's using 435)
[14:27] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, or should I just try to switch back to 440 now?
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: lets try to 435 first
[14:28] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, 435 is already selected. Also, fwiw, ubuntu-drivers list now shows all three
[14:28] <Jayden> https://pastebin.com/103f6zax
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> Jayden: stop that
[14:29] <Jayden> Linux in NTFS
[14:30] <Jayden> Linux is secretly in NTFS
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> Jayden: dont random chitchat in here, use another channel for that
[14:32] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, addtional drivers has 435 already selected.  Should I apt purge and start from scratch?
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: yeah nvidia drivers switch/install should go smoothly...if not something still blocking it
[14:35] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, still says unable to locate package nvidia*
[14:36] <JFalken> Maybe I can switch to 440 and try and then back to 435?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: sure
[14:42] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, switched to 440, no errors applying changes
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> aha!
[14:42] <JFalken> Although, still unclaimed in lshw
[14:43] <JFalken> I need to reboot?
[14:44] <JFalken> I'll reboot.. brb
[14:47] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, still no dice =(
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: lets have a look at your current dmesg plz?
[14:47] <JFalken> sure
[14:48] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, https://termbin.com/wc9k
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: this is a weird puzzle, its like your dmesg skips nvidia output
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: you are not using kvm or virtualizing things?
[14:53] <JFalken> I do have vmware installed for other VMs, but this isn't in a VM
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> allright
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: ok 3 other things to wonder, iwlwifi dkms git interfere? vmware dkms conflict? nouveau blacklist take off and try purge nvidia*
[14:58] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, Not sure about the other 2, but I can try purging the nvidia drivers.. although nvidia* doesn't seem to work
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: yeah, but maybe if you take off the nouveau blacklist, we could switch succesfully to nouveau
[14:59] <JFalken> Yeah, that's what I was thinking
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: and hopefully install to nvidia properly
[15:00] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, so.. update grub, and switch to nouveau?
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> think ive seen dmks conflicts with vmware/virtualbox in the past aswell
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> yeah take the line off, sudo update-grub reboot switch to nouveau try nvidia install
[15:02] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, roger
[15:04] <TheFu> Seeing some sort of DKMS nvidia failures here too.  Anytime a new kernel gets installed, just need to force a reinstall of the nvidia drivers to have them work. Nouveau wasn't working at the desired resolution for the old nvidia ...
[15:05] <dex1983> can someone help me with mounting an lvm volume please
[15:05] <TheFu> so splurged for a new GPU - 1030.
[15:05] <TheFu> dex1983, sure
[15:05] <dex1983> great thansk
[15:06] <dex1983> https://pastebin.com/2NE0D6qy
[15:06] <dex1983> I want to mount the 10T /dev/sda3 partition
[15:06] <dex1983> How I could made it
[15:06] <TheFu> have to step away ... baking ready
[15:08] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, I can't seem to remove the nvidia drivers apt purge nvidia* says it can't locate them
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: what happens GUI on additional drivers when picking nouveau now?
[15:10] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, I was able to switch to nouveau.  No issues
[15:10] <JFalken> (and I've also rebooted after switching)
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: sudo lshw -C video to verify
[15:11] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, it doesn't show unclaimed now
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> allrighty
[15:11] <TheFu> dex1983, how about some LVM output? sudo vgs; sudo lvs ; please
[15:11] <dex1983> ok
[15:11] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, progress?
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: ok lets try sudo apt install your-nvidia-driver from terminal now
[15:12] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, ubuntu-drivers still show they are all installed
[15:12] <JFalken> nvidia-driver-435, (kernel modules provided by linux-modules-nvidia-435-generic-hwe-20.04)
[15:12] <dex1983> https://pastebin.com/9JiBxEZC
[15:13] <JFalken> (and also 390 and 440
[15:13] <JFalken> )
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: what ubuntu-driver shows, it doesnt mean its installed, but available for your card
[15:13] <JFalken> Ah
[15:14] <JFalken> Apt list doesn't show any installed
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> yeah, manual install one JFalken
[15:14] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, which driver should I try? 435 or 440?
[15:14] <dex1983> maybe the lvm outputs helps TheFu
[15:14] <JFalken> 50/50 guess =)
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: 435 to avoid the 440 bug on 20.04 (in case)
[15:15] <TheFu> Don't see any LV that can be mounted w/ 10T.  Have you created the LV?
[15:16] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, nvidia-utils?
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> sorry?
[15:17] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, there are quite a few nvidia packages.  Trying to figure out which to install
[15:17] <dex1983> hmm do not think so
[15:17] <dex1983> how I could create the 10T volume?
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: sudo apt install nvidia-driver-435
[15:18] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, thanks.. installing now
[15:18] <JFalken> Then a reboot?
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[15:18] <JFalken> kk
[15:19] <TheFu> The VG doesn't have quite 10T.  if you need 10T, then more storage needs to be added to the system either all new or to the VG.
[15:19] <BluesKaj> does nvidia still need dkms to build the driver?
[15:21] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, installed without issue, but lshw is back to unclaimed now
[15:21] <dex1983> hmm ok
[15:21] <TheFu> dex1983, use lvcreate to make an LV.  i wouldn't use the entire available storage because then we lose out on many of the capabilites that make LVM so great.
[15:21] <dex1983> hmm ok
[15:21] <dex1983> maybe I create it new
[15:21] <dex1983> it is virtualized with proxmox :-(
[15:22] <dex1983> and reinstall ubuntu server
[15:22] <dex1983> should I use then lvm or is ext4 also ok?
[15:22] <TheFu> i'd only put the storage needed for the next 4-6 months into an LV.
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> JFalken: going for food first bbl
[15:22] <JFalken> lotuspsychje, ok, thanks for the help!
[15:23] <dex1983> can I add it later a bigger storage with lvm and proxmox?
[15:23] <TheFu> Having 10-20% unused means we can do snapshots for backups and some other nice things.
[15:23] <TheFu> i know very little about proxmox.
[15:24] <TheFu> There is 9.8TB in the VG
[15:25] <bjarne333> ah, I used proxmox in my last job
[15:26] <TheFu> i use lvm to directly provide storage to VMs. each VM gets a separate LV from the host storage.
[15:27] <dex1983> Ah ok so you are using vmware?
[15:27] <TheFu> Needed to extend a LV last week on a running VM. Added a new vDisk to a running VM, extended the VG usng that new storage and extended the LV - all while the VM was running.
[15:28] <TheFu> dex1983, i use KVM+libvirt on Ubuntu Server
[15:29] <dex1983> ah ok
[15:30] <TheFu> Been doing VMs since the 1990s on many different platforms.
[15:30] <dex1983> wow cool
[15:31] <TheFu> dex1983, did you create the LV yet or are you re-thinking storage for VMs?
[15:32] <dex1983> hmm I am using proxmox ve with ZFS partitioning
[15:32] <TheFu> if using ZFS, don't use LVM.
[15:32] <dex1983> yep I thought so
[15:32] <dex1983> not a good idea
[15:33] <TheFu> But you've already got LVM.
[15:33] <TheFu> vgs shows 10T
[15:33] <dex1983> and in the virtual machine installation of ubuntu server which partition I should use
[15:34] <dex1983> ?
[15:34] <TheFu> Think we've gone OT for this channel. Best to ask "why" and "design" questions elsewhere.
[15:35] <dex1983> OT?
[15:35] <TheFu> off topic
[15:35] <dex1983> ok because not so ubuntu related?
[15:35] <TheFu> They want Q --> answers (command) here.
[15:36] <dex1983> ok
[17:07] <PaddyF> hello. sorry to intrude your virtual homes with this question, but how can i check whether a software is in the repository when i dont have ubuntu installed yet?
[17:25] <tieinv> check https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/
[17:28] <oerheks> and/or snapcraft.io
[18:05] <seven-eleven> hi
[18:06] <seven-eleven> did someone upgrade 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS lately?
[18:06] <seven-eleven> i read in this channel that the bug should have been resolved by now, but I upgraded six 18.04 LTS machines to 20.04 and each of them encountered the same bug
[18:07] <seven-eleven> libcrypt.so.1 bug that is
[18:09] <FreeBDSM> seven-eleven: just came here to ask how to upgrade ubuntu 18.04 LTS -> 20.04 LTS, saw your messages and now I think I'll wait a few months more
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | seven-eleven FreeBDSM
[18:10] <seven-eleven> FreeBDSM, you can upgrade now but you should take note how
[18:11] <seven-eleven> FreeBDSM, open two terminals, one where you do the upgrade and the second should be logged in as root
[18:11] <seven-eleven> now when the first terminal where you do the upgrade fails you run following commands from the root terminal
[18:12] <seven-eleven> https://dpaste.org/dZQM
[18:12] <seven-eleven> then switch back to the window where the upgrade failed and run `apt install --fix-broken`
[18:12] <FreeBDSM> seven-eleven: no, thanks
[18:12] <seven-eleven> after that continue the upgrade with `apt full-upgrade`
[18:13] <seven-eleven> lotuspsychje, yeah, I guess I started a month too early, but it sounded like the issue from march was fixed for the -d switch too
[18:19] <seven-eleven> last two machines are in the middle of the upgrade, then I will have 5 years no worries about any upgrades \o/
[18:19] <FreeBDSM> riiight
[18:39] <mr_lou> I've been having some issues lately. After 12+ hours the whole system becomes very slow, to a point where it's visually noticable when scrolling down a webpage, or looking at other UI stuff. A ps ax shows the a few Wine apps are running that I did not start, but killing these processes doesn't speed things back up. Also some pxgsetting is running in multiple instances, but killing those doesn't speed things back up either.
[18:44] <aliendude5300> Looking for a new laptop and I see on on eBay that is a fantastic deal. It's BIOS locked though. I want to know if I would be able to install Ubuntu on it. Any idea? https://www.ebay.com/itm/P-R-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T470s-BIOS-LOCK-Intel-i5-6300U-20GB-DDR4-Win-10-TL0135/333626616473?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1431.l2649
[18:45] <aliendude5300> The description says it has Windows 10 on it and boots to the OS, so I imagine that if I were to find a way to load linux onto that OS and put it back in the system it'd work even if it couldn't boot from USB
[18:45] <aliendude5300> "Device is wiped to factory defaults and ready for use. Device is BIOS LOCKED and being sold as is. It can run Windows 10 and most applications." Would it be a bad idea to buy it?
[18:47] <aliendude5300> Or would something like this be a better bet even though it has 12GB less RAM? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T470s-i5-6300U-8GB-ram-256GB-SSD-1080p-warranty/193524688871?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1431.l2649
[18:47] <kk4ewt> unless you can figure out how to reset the bios i would leave it alone
[18:49] <aliendude5300> Yeah, I figured :( It's such a shame though as the bios locked one is considerably less expensive
[19:04] <aliendude5300> There are tons of like new systems with BIOS passwords on ebay for some reason. I saw like 4 or 5 X280s
[19:27] <tomreyn> mr_lou:
[19:27] <tomreyn> !find pxgsettings
[19:28] <tomreyn> okay, that didnb't help. but package libproxy1-plugin-gsettings contains a file /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libproxy/0.4.14/pxgsettings on amd64
[19:28] <tomreyn> package description: "automatic proxy configuration management library (GSettings plugin)"
[19:30] <tomreyn> it's normal to have this running on the default gnome desktop, but usually just one process tree. and it shouldn't conisume many resources.
[19:36] <seven-eleven> apt autoremove wants to remove linux-generic, should I be careful here, linux-generic sounds important
[19:37] <oerheks> look at the version ..
[19:37] <seven-eleven> it shows no version, that's why im a bit worried
[19:38] <tomreyn> if you're running an LTS release and have moved to linux-generic-hwe-YY.MM then it'll be fine.
[19:38] <oerheks> oh? share in paste.ubuntu.com please?
[19:38] <seven-eleven> https://dpaste.org/jaMa
[19:38] <seven-eleven> tomreyn, yep running LTS, let me check if I have that *hwe* package
[19:38] <tomreyn> add -V to apt(-get) to see the package versions
[19:39] <seven-eleven> not having generic
[19:39] <seven-eleven> got a linux-image-generic
[19:39] <seven-eleven> linux-generic                          <IP_ADDRESS>.40
[19:40] <seven-eleven> i think i should be careful now, 5.4.0 sounds like the newest version for 20.04
[19:41] <oerheks> uname -a gives 5.4.0-37.41 ??
[19:41] <tomreyn> i guess you want to keep linux-image-generic if you're on focal
[19:41] <seven-eleven> i run this command before which lead to the autoremove: https://dpaste.org/OuAE
[19:42] <seven-eleven> yes 5.4.0-37-generic
[19:42] <seven-eleven> it doesn't say 41 or 40 just 37-generic
[19:42] <seven-eleven> oh sorry, i used uname -r. uname -a shows 5.4.0-37-generic #41-Ubuntu
[19:42] <tomreyn> !info linux-generic focal-updates
[19:42] <tomreyn> !info linux-generic focal
[19:43] <seven-eleven> tomreyn, oh thanks, i got bit worried :-)
[19:45] <tomreyn> i meant to write: i think you want to keep linux-generic if you're on focal (there is no HWE for it, yet)
[19:47] <seven-eleven> ok reinstalled it
[19:48] <seven-eleven> i wonder why it appeared in autoremove, thats not a good sign
[20:27] <ironpillow> Hi all, when using LVM I am getting this error: "Unable to merge invalidated snapshot LV "ci-snap"."
[20:53] <tarrie> has anyone seen ubuntu software app disappear and then reappear a few days later on a fresh 20.04 install?
[20:53] <tarrie> happened to me and im not sure why?
[20:57] <melatonina> Hello
[20:57] <kostkon> melatonina, hi
[20:58] <melatonina> Are there official instructions on how to fix the issues caused by upgrading to Ubuntu 20.04?
[21:00] <melatonina> My system asks me to do a partial update and fails, regularly. Then it takes time to perform an "unattended upgrade" each time I shut down or restart, without doing anything, apparently. And the window manager often becomes irresponsive.
[21:02] <oerheks> sudo apt install -f # sudo dpkg --configure -a # sudo apt dist-upgrade
[21:11] <melatonina> oerheks: I'll try that. Thanks
[21:18] <bewees> hi
[21:18] <bewees> im currently on a live usb and I wonder how I can install linux kernel? i tried apt install linux-image-5.4.0-37-generic
[21:19] <bewees> my focal upgrade failed apparently
[21:19] <melatonina> eh
[21:21] <bewees> i think i needed linux-generic, looks better now
[21:22] <bewees> why is grub only generating initrd.img-5.4.0-37-generic
[21:22] <bewees> not vmlinuz hmm
[21:22] <oerheks> installing a kernel on liveusb session?
[21:23] <oerheks> why?
[21:24] <bewees> oerheks, i rebooted after the focal upgrade but grub had only the old 4.X kernel and failed to boot therefore. now im trying to fix it here
[21:26] <melatonina> oerheks: "dist-upgrade" is doing lots of stuff. I'll report back when it finishes
[21:28] <oerheks> bewees, boot in recoverymode and try to fix it with sudo apt install -f
[21:28] <oerheks> !recovery
[21:33] <bewees> oerheks, i will try that next boot
[21:38] <bewees> oerheks, how can i boot without kernel though?
[21:45] <oerheks> "but grub had only the old 4.X kernel" .. weird claim you have no kernel
[21:45] <oerheks> and 4.x seems from a previous release?
[21:47] <bewees> i tried booting from 4.x
[21:47] <bewees> but then i saw a black screen with one dot blinking
[21:48] <bewees> i dont understand why apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic is not installing vmlinuz to boot hmm
[22:20] <melatonina> rebooting
[22:46] <TheFu> Had a 20.04 mate upgrade make an unbootable system yesterday.  Wasn't paying close attenton as 10 other systems were also beng patched.  Most needed a reboot, so i did.  Rescue-grub was it w/ no file systems found on any storage.  Booted from Try Ubuntu flash and found /boot empty of files.
[22:48] <TheFu> Did a chroot w/ bind mounts to install a kernel and update grub. That failed and i could just do a reinstall and backup restore in about 30min to be back.
[22:51] <TheFu> "I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/dm-1" was the message when it stopped upgrading.
[22:52] <TheFu> LVM install.
[23:00] <swine_> W: GPG error: http://vpn.simsushare.com/apt  Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:
[23:01] <swine_> why would i be getting this error after i manually added the key with apt-key add?
[23:01] <swine_> how on earth is the "public key not available" ?
[23:01] <swine_> i just added the damn thing
[23:05] <oerheks> interesting, what guide do you follow?
[23:06] <swine_> oerheks, what do you mean?
[23:06] <swine_> i added the key with apt-key add which from what i understand is the way to manually add a gpg key. this seemed to have been working with ubuntu 18 but now bombs out with ubuntu 20
[23:07] <oerheks> how do they tell you to install?
[23:07] <swine_> there's no "they". i'm the one making the repo
[23:07] <swine_> it's my repo with my own key
[23:07] <ghlfrunb> Hi
[23:07] <ghlfrunb> How can i install vmlinuz zo boot
[23:08] <ghlfrunb> Im now booted in my old kernel without de just temrinal
[23:09] <ghlfrunb> I tried reinstalling linux-generix and linux-image-generix but thats not installing anything to /boot
[23:27] <Bashing-om> ghlfrunb: Show us the state of the installed kernels ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' in a pastebin.


[02:05] <bluesabre> 3
[02:06] <bluesabre> Woops
[02:06] <bluesabre> :)
[02:07] <bluesabre> jphilips: slowly but surely. Been reviewing the 50 xfwm bugs on Launchpad to figure out whats fixed, what remains.
[06:52] <jphilips> bluesabre: oh okay. definitely would be challenging.
[06:52] <jphilips> provided a patch to fix the light-locker upgrade issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1922532
[06:52] <ubot3> Launchpad bug 1922532 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Upgrading from bionic to focal doesn't remove light-locker" [Undecided, New]
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[09:12] <Chipaca> good morning all
[09:12] <bthomas> morning
[10:18] <facubatista> ¡Muy buenos días a todos!
[10:19] <bthomas> hola
[10:19] <facubatista> hola bthomas
[10:52] <Chipaca> facubatista: mantantirulirulá
[10:52] <facubatista> hola Chipaca :)
[11:07] <mthaddon> Chipaca, facubatista: not sure if you saw as it was a little buried in https://discourse.charmhub.io/t/telegraf-charm-for-k8s/3791 but we have an MP adding functional tests to charm-k8s-telegraf - https://code.launchpad.net/~sajoupa/charm-k8s-telegraf/+git/charm-k8s-telegraf/+merge/393340 - would be interested in your thoughts on this
[11:08] <Chipaca> mthaddon: ack. i'll try to get to it today.
[11:08] <mthaddon> fantastic, thanks
[11:22] <facubatista> mthaddon, thanks for reminding it to us
[11:22] <mthaddon> np
[12:06] <JoseMasson> Good morning!
[12:09] <facubatista> hola JoseMasson
[12:12] <bthomas> Morning JoseMasson : I added replica_set_name to mongodb peer relation data and also ensured that the replicated variable was a string. I pushed my changes to my development branch. Please delete you local copy of development branch before pulling because I did some rebaseing. I would generally not do this but hey it is a development branch :-).
[12:13] <JoseMasson> Great bthomas I'll see it!
[14:08] <mup> PR operator#444 closed: Improve and extend README.md with operator intro <Created by markshuttle> <Merged by chipaca> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/444>
[16:12]  * bthomas -> craving tea
[17:06] <dstathis> bthomas Are any of the charms you have written using hostnames to talk to each other?
[17:06] <dstathis> I'd like to look at some example code
[17:07]  * facubatista -> bbl
[17:07] <bthomas> dstathis: Elasticsearch charm uses hostnames to setup the elasticsearch seed hosts configuration. I am not sure of an example of using that to talk between charms but do not see why not.
[17:09] <bthomas> https://github.com/canonical/elasticsearch-operator
[17:48] <justinclark> bthomas, do you have a few to jump on the Graylog call?
[17:48] <justinclark> Question about mongodb
[17:50] <bthomas> justinclark: going to standup link now
[17:51] <bthomas> justinclark: am there
[17:51] <justinclark> bthomas: https://meet.google.com/jac-ghof-sdn
[18:02]  * Chipaca EODs
[18:02] <Chipaca> ttfn!
[19:23] <bthomas> justinclark: any luck ?
[19:23] <justinclark> bthomas, taking a quick lunch break - I'll let you know in a bit
[19:26]  * facubatista is back
[20:25] <justinclark> bthomas, no luck using the master branch, but it looks like the issue may have something to do with the mongodb defaults. In particular, one log line sticks out to me (trying with standalone mode)
[20:25] <justinclark> 2020-11-10 20:21:21,472 INFO : org.mongodb.driver.cluster - Cluster created with settings {hosts=[mongo:27017], mode=SINGLE, requiredClusterType=UNKNOWN, serverSelectionTimeout='30000 ms', maxWaitQueueSize=5000}
[20:26] <justinclark> The default "hosts=[mongo:27017]" might be the issue because that's what cannot be connected to by Graylog
[20:26] <justinclark> 2020-11-10 20:21:21,605 INFO : org.mongodb.driver.cluster - Exception in monitor thread while connecting to server mongo:27017
[20:26] <justinclark> com.mongodb.MongoSocketException: mongo: Name or service not known
[20:27] <bthomas> There may be multiple problems here. 1) Bind address 2) Mongodb configuration not support slave reads 3) possibly others.
[20:28] <bthomas> If you like I can get on a call with you and JoseMasson now . I will ofcourse look into this first thing tomorrow now that I have a better understanding.
[20:29] <bthomas> justinclark: One thing will help here. Do you know why Graylog is assuming that the name of the mongodb host is "mongo" ?
[20:30] <justinclark> I'm not sure, because we're explicitly setting the standalone/replicaset URI in server.conf
[20:31] <bthomas> justinclark: I am not on my work PC. May I request you to post that replica set URI here.
[20:32] <justinclark> bthomas: directly from the pod's server.conf:
[20:32] <justinclark> mongodb_uri = mongodb://mongodb-0.mongodb-endpoints:27017,mongodb-1.mongodb-endpoints:27017,mongodb-2.mongodb-endpoints:27017/graylog?replicaSet=rs0
[20:33] <bthomas> Hmm... I am surprised . I do not see how Graylog can be picking up the host name of "mongo". Event if it did "mongodb-0" or "mongodb-1" ... I could understand.
[20:34] <justinclark> I'm in the same boat. I'll send you the logs directly.
[20:36] <bthomas> Thanks justinclark : as mentioned above the one thing I worry about is the mongodb bind address. I will dig further tomorrow, and let you have all the fun till then :-)
[20:37] <bthomas> I am online for an hour or two in case I can be of any service but will be winding down, perhaps go watch spitting images https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCov3Uxwgh6Fq_2F7oW9-hA
[20:47] <bthomas> justinclark: Just a hunch. That if you compare hostnames such as "mongodb-0.mongodb-endpoints" given in the replica set URI with the kind of host names we use in elasticsearch, you may note it is missing a suffix, someting like ".svc. ..." . I wonder if the Graylog is not able to resolve the replica set URI's and falling back to the default "mongo". I guess on can confirm if this is the case by using a shell in the Graylog cont
[20:47] <bthomas> checking if the the host "mongodb-0.mongodb-endpoints" is indeed accessible or not.
[21:25]  * bthomas off for today
[21:32]  * facubatista eods
[21:58] <mup> Issue operator#445 opened: Testing Harness to provide a way to remove relation <Created by ed1000> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/445>


[01:27] <hellowar> hi
[01:27] <kernal> hi
[01:27] <hellowar> how its work this channel ? its used for ?
[01:28] <kernal> Topic for #ubuntu-mate is: Home of Ubuntu MATE | https://ubuntu-mate.org/ | Community https://ubuntu-mate.community/ | Donate https://ubuntu-mate.org/donate/ | IRC Logs http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[01:51] <mate|19370> hello, i'm looking for help. i'm not receiving email confirmation emails
[01:51] <kernal> hello
[01:51] <kernal> sounds like an email isssue
[01:51] <mate|19370> hi
[01:52] <kernal> not really a ubuntu mate issue
[01:52] <mate|19370> I've checke
[01:53] <mate|19370> i've checked my mailbox it worked; i can receive test emails..
[01:54] <kernal> alright, how is your email linked to a problem with ubuntu mate?
[01:55] <kernal> who is your email provider?
[01:57] <mate|19370> i'm trying to signup with the ubuntu-mate community (through the website).
[01:57] <mate|19370> What is the support email address for the ubuntu-mate community?
[01:59] <mate|19370> i have my own email-domain (with webhoster).
[02:00] <mate|19370> thanks for responding!
[02:00] <kernal> I'm just signing up now myself
[02:01] <kernal> and I just received an email
[02:01] <kernal> "Welcome to Ubuntu MATE Community!
[02:01] <kernal> Click the following link to confirm and activate your new account:"
[02:01] <kernal> it was very quick to receive the activation email
[02:05] <mate|19370> Thank you. i'll try again tomorrow. This link email has yet to arrive for me after several attempts.
[02:05] <mate|19370> bye.. bedtim
[03:29] <Boyette> hi
[03:29] <kernal> hi
[03:30] <Boyette> wow there are really ppl alive here
[03:30] <kernal> :P
[03:30] <Boyette> didnt even know this still existed
[03:30] <Boyette> this whole irc thing
[03:30] <Boyette> but its alive and kicking
[03:31] <kernal> still existed??? It never left
[03:31] <Boyette> apparently
[03:33] <Boyette> im stuck on some cron problem it must be very simple but i cant fix it
[03:33] <Boyette> i was hoping to find some living soul who can enlighten me
[03:34] <kernal> i don't normally tell dad jokes, but when i do he laughs
[03:34] <Boyette> that sounds like alive
[03:35] <kernal> shoot
[03:36] <kernal> although, I'm still rather new with ubuntu
[03:36] <Boyette> i have crontab setup to run 4 times a sh script a day
[03:36] <Boyette> script 1 compiles a file
[03:36] <Boyette> script 2 ftp's the file to another server
[03:36] <Boyette> script 3= scipt 1
[03:36] <Boyette> script 4 = script 2
[03:36] <Boyette> script 1 and 3 runs fine
[03:37] <Boyette> script 2 and 4 never run however crontab does compile a logfile which is always empty
[03:37] <Boyette> but is touched at the right time
[03:37] <Boyette> syslog reports:
[03:37] <kernal> using sftp to transfer the file?
[03:38] <Boyette> CRON [2340] (root) CMD (bash /root/ftp.sh  >> root/cronjobs1.log)
[03:38] <Boyette> CRON info NO MTA installed, discarding output)
[03:38] <Boyette> if i run the ftp.sh manually it runs fine
[03:39] <Boyette> but if cron has to do it automated it is just not doing anything
[03:39] <Boyette> but i cant find a clue why
[03:39] <kernal> have you used the full path names? that has caught me out before
[03:39] <Boyette> the pathnames must be correct
[03:40] <Boyette> ftp.sh is in the same directory
[03:40] <kernal> like /home/$USER/some/folder  |  not just some/folder
[03:40] <Boyette> as makethefuckingfile.sh
[03:40] <Techman> So, is anyone in here running the 18.04 dailies?
[03:40] <Boyette> and makethefuckingfile.sh does work
[03:40] <Boyette> thats me mr techman
[03:40] <Techman> I kinda wanna check out the progress with the dash menu and stuff with MATE
[03:40] <Boyette> im on mate 18,04
[03:40] <kernal> @Techman, no 18.04 for me yet
[03:40] <Techman> Not sure if it's stable enough to look on with a liveusb
[03:41] <Boyette> its very stable
[03:41] <Techman> I know wimpy was saying a few weeks ago that stuff was being moved around a lot
[03:41] <Boyette> only mesa is not
[03:41] <Boyette> but this problem i have btw is not on mate 18,04 but 16
[03:41] <Techman> Oh, don't mind me
[03:41] <Boyette> well matepanel gets fuckeed up sometimes
[03:41] <Techman> I just asked a question without watching what the previous conversation was
[03:41] <Boyette> yes
[03:41]  * Techman goes back to idling
[03:42] <Boyette> i was asking some help with my cron sh problem
[03:42] <Boyette> did u get me mr. kernal?
[03:43] <Boyette> if path was incorrect script2 would also not run
[03:45] <kernal> https://askubuntu.com/questions/23009/why-crontab-scripts-are-not-working
[03:46] <Boyette> permission problems
[03:46] <Boyette> i have looked into that
[03:46] <Boyette> chmod 755
[03:46] <Boyette> chmod +x
[03:46] <kernal> sorry bud, still a lot to learn myself
[03:47] <Boyette> hehe ok
[03:47] <Boyette> its actually a common problem
[03:47] <kernal> got a pastebin of the script?
[03:47] <Boyette> probably
[03:47] <Boyette> the ftp script?
[03:47] <kernal> yeah
[03:48] <Boyette> just a moment
[03:48] <Boyette> need to copy from the server
[03:50] <Boyette> #!/bin/sh
[03:50] <Boyette> HOST='ftp.server.com'
[03:50] <Boyette> PORT='21'
[03:50] <Boyette><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:50] <Boyette> PASSWORD='xxxxxxxxxx'
[03:50] <Boyette> FILE='xxx.xml'
[03:50] <Boyette> ftp -n $HOST $PORT <<END_SCRIPT
[03:50] <Boyette> quote USER $USER
[03:50] <Boyette> quote PASS $PASSWORD
[03:50] <Boyette> put $FILE
[03:50] <Boyette> quit
[03:50] <Boyette> END_SCRIPT
[03:50] <Boyette> exit 0
[03:50] <Boyette> but that runs well if i run it manually
[03:51] <kernal> try changing the file path
[03:51] <kernal> that's what I meant about full paths
[03:51] <Boyette> the file path in cron ?
[03:51] <kernal> in the script
[03:51] <kernal> FILE='xxx.xml'
[03:51] <Boyette> the file is in the same directory as the ftp.sh
[03:51] <kernal> put in the full path
[03:52] <kernal> I know, but in cron it likes to have the full path
[03:52] <kernal> ????
[03:52] <Boyette> i think its not the file because cron would log that and it doesnt make sense that the script itself runs fine but not if cron does that
[03:52] <Boyette> in cron the full path to the ftp.sh is there
[03:52] <kernal> this has caught me out before with some shell scripts that run on cronjobs
[03:52] <Boyette> it doesnt need to know a path to a file in the script because cron is starting the script not executing the actual ftp transaction
[03:53] <Boyette> i can however do it
[03:53] <Boyette> it would also not hurt
[03:53] <kernal> can't hurt to test
[03:53] <Boyette> agree
[03:54] <kernal> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/38951/what-is-the-working-directory-when-cron-executes-a-job
[03:55] <Boyette> ok
[03:55] <Boyette> that is actually referring to a similar problem
[03:55] <Boyette> if cron would give that error
[03:55] <Boyette> but it doesnt give the error
[03:55] <Boyette> it seems it can just not run the script at all
[03:55] <Boyette> it seems its already getting terminated before it even executed the script
[03:56] <Boyette> but it also doesnt give an error about not being able to execute it
[03:56] <Boyette> only syslog gives error about creating the output for that.. which i also dont understand
[03:56] <Boyette> but i adjusted it now
[04:00] <Boyette> now the script doesnt like this
[04:04] <kernal> ??
[04:05] <kernal> what's does the entry in cron look like?
[04:06] <Boyette> ftp needs a specific file.. its not used to read paths
[04:06] <Boyette> thats unusual
[04:06] <kernal> add a 'cd' into to your script then, to get cron to change into that directory
[04:07] <Boyette> 0 4 * * 0-6 bash /root/x/run.sh >> /root/wg/cronjobs1.log
[04:07] <Boyette> 0 10 * * 0-6 bash /root/xftp.sh >> /root/wg/cronjobs2.log
[04:07] <Boyette> 0 13 * * 0-6 bash /root/x/run.sh >> /root/wg/cronjobs3.log
[04:07] <Boyette> 0 22 * * 0-6 bash /root/x/ftp.sh >> /root/wg/cronjobs4.log
[04:08] <Boyette> 0 4 * * 0-6 bash /root/x/run.sh >> /root/wg/cronjobs1.log
[04:08] <Boyette> 0 10 * * 0-6 bash /root/x/ftp.sh >> /root/wg/cronjobs2.log
[04:08] <Boyette> 0 13 * * 0-6 bash /root/x/run.sh >> /root/wg/cronjobs3.log
[04:08] <Boyette> 0 22 * * 0-6 bash /root/x/ftp.sh >> /root/wg/cronjobs4.log
[04:08] <Boyette> run.sh is executed fine
[04:08] <Boyette> ftp.sh is just not running
[04:09] <Boyette> cronjobs2.log and cronjobs4.log are created or touched at the correct times but always stay completely empty
[04:09] <Boyette> while log 1 and 3 are written
[04:09] <kernal> add a 'cd /root/x/' to the start of the script, so when it's run from cron it's working in the right directory
[04:10] <Boyette> but it is already in the right directory
[04:10] <Boyette> if that would be the issue why would run.sh work well
[04:10] <Boyette> it has to do a lot of things
[04:10] <kernal> assuming that's where the '.xml' file is located that you want to ftp
[04:10] <Boyette> in that same directory
[04:10] <Boyette> yes the xml is located there
[04:10] <Boyette> run.sh is located there
[04:10] <Boyette> ftp.sh is located there
[04:10] <Boyette> and run.sh creates the xml
[04:11] <Boyette> that all works fine
[04:11] <kernal> when cron runs it's just calling the script from that directory, it's not working in that directory
[04:11] <kernal> so when it looks for 'xxxx.xml' it can't find it
[04:11] <Boyette> ok but the script itself only has to startup thats crons task
[04:12] <Boyette> not running the script right?
[04:23] <Boyette> i added cd /*/* in the beginning
[04:24] <kernal> what does cd '/*/*' do?
[04:25] <kernal> bash: not a directory
[04:26] <Boyette> cd /root/x/
[04:29] <Boyette> well see how this goes
[04:35] <kernal> good to learn, just wrote a small script myself and set it to run on crontab
[04:35] <kernal> it detects if a file exists and it it does it will 'cat' it
[04:35] <kernal> if not it will echo "File does not exist"
[04:36] <kernal> the cronjob just ran
[04:36] <kernal> and in the log 'File does not exist'
[04:37] <kernal> but if I run the script myself and I'm in that directory...
[04:37] <kernal> Found file.
[04:37] <kernal> Hello World!
[04:37] <hggdh> kernal: when you run cron, yo have to set your environment. Cron cleans up the user's environment before allowing a script to run
[04:37] <Boyette> ok
[04:38] <kernal> #!/bin/sh
[04:38] <kernal> file="xxx.xml"
[04:38] <kernal> if [ ! -f $file ]; then
[04:38] <kernal>   echo "File not found."
[04:38] <kernal> else
[04:38] <kernal>   echo "Found file."
[04:38] <kernal>   cat $file
[04:38] <kernal> fi
[04:38] <hggdh> kernal: usepastebin
[04:38] <hggdh> use pastenbin
[04:39] <kernal> aye
[04:39] <hggdh> and, yes, this script will most certainly not quite work the way you  want under cron
[04:39] <kernal> I know mate, just showing Boyette as a test
[04:39] <Boyette> ok
[04:40] <Boyette> so how exactly will it work?
[04:40] <Boyette> #!/bin/sh
[04:40] <Boyette> cd /root/x/
[04:40] <Boyette> HOST='ftp.server.com'
[04:40] <Boyette> PORT='21'
[04:40] <Boyette> USER='xxxxxx'
[04:40] <Boyette> PASSWORD='xxxxxx'
[04:40] <Boyette> FILE='xxxxx.xml'
[04:40] <Boyette> ftp -n $HOST $PORT <<END_SCRIPT
[04:40] <Boyette> quote USER $USER
[04:40] <Boyette> quote PASS $PASSWORD
[04:40] <hggdh> ...
[04:40] <Boyette> put $FILE
[04:40] <Boyette> quit
[04:40] <Boyette> END_SCRIPT
[04:40] <Boyette> exit 0
[04:40] <hggdh> Boyette: UESE PASTEBIN
[04:40] <Boyette> like this?
[04:41] <Boyette> https://pastebin.com/rLF785iT
[04:41]  * kernal steps out for luch
[04:42] <hggdh> Boyette: if your FTP server accepts the syntax you used for commands, it should work
[04:42] <Boyette> the ftp server accepts it
[04:42] <Boyette> if i run the script manually it runs fine
[04:43] <Boyette> but the problem is that cron doesnt do it
[04:44] <Boyette> cron
[04:44] <Boyette> https://pastebin.com/DxcWcSWK
[04:44] <Boyette> 1 and 3 runs fine
[04:44] <Boyette> 2 and 4 doesnt run
[04:44] <Boyette> creates empty log file but the log is touched at the correct times
[04:46] <hggdh> Boyette: on the shebang, add '-x' so it will read #!/bin/sh -x
[04:47] <hggdh> then run it under cron again
[04:48] <Boyette> add -x
[04:48] <Boyette> what is that doing
[04:48] <hggdh> it will give you a "trace" of the commands executed by the shell
[04:49] <Boyette> aah
[04:49] <Boyette> yes that was missing aswell
[04:49] <Boyette> i had a different script before using bash instead of sh
[04:49] <Boyette> there i got a trace
[04:50] <Boyette> but i thought cron had trouble with bash so i changed it to sh then i lost the trace
[04:50] <hggdh> you might also need a line after the shebang with "exec 2>&1"
[04:50] <hggdh> cron has no problems with bash, sh, or any other shell
[04:50] <Boyette> well im stuck on this really not understanding why cron doesnt run this
[04:51] <Boyette> because empty logfile
[04:51] <hggdh> actually, change the exec to exec 2>&1 > /tmp/$0.log
[04:51] <Boyette> ok
[04:51] <Boyette> only in syslog i see this
[04:51] <Boyette> CRON [2340] (root) CMD (bash /root/ftp.sh  >> root/cronjobs1.log)
[04:51] <Boyette> CRON info NO MTA installed, discarding output)
[04:52] <hggdh> this is just telling you cron will not email you the output because you do not have a MTA installed
[04:53] <Boyette> yes
[04:53] <hggdh> change  the 'exec' lne as I pointed out
[04:53] <Boyette> i know but what i dont understand is why its also not logging it as its told to do
[04:53] <Boyette> like this?
[04:53] <Boyette> https://pastebin.com/QRMdkssX
[04:54] <hggdh> the exec is on its own line, after the shebang
[04:54] <hggdh> exec 2>&1 > /tmp/$0.log
[04:55] <hggdh> wait
[04:56] <hggdh> change the $0 to a string, you are running it with a full path
[04:56] <Boyette> ok
[04:56] <hggdh> line: exec 2>&1 > /tmp/cron-out.log
[04:56] <hggdh> brb
[04:57] <Boyette> https://pastebin.com/hB2MDRem
[05:02] <hggdh> yes
[05:02] <Boyette> correct?
[05:03] <hggdh> after running it thru cron look at /tmp/cron-out.log
[05:04] <Boyette> ok
[05:04] <Boyette> i will
[05:04] <Boyette> hopefully this works now
[05:04] <Boyette> my final goal is actually another step ahead
[05:04] <hggdh> it will not, but it will show you what happened
[05:05] <Boyette> hehe  ok
[05:05] <Boyette> first i want those 2 scripts to run after the other one is finished
[05:05] <Boyette> but the ftp.sh i couldnt make it happen automatically
[05:05] <Boyette> if this finally works
[05:05] <Boyette> what would actually be more nice if it can always keeps running
[05:06] <Boyette> so when 1 stops the other one starts and when that is finished the other one starts
[05:06] <Boyette> do u understand what I mean?
[05:06] <Boyette> like a neverending process
[05:07] <hggdh> well... this is not exactly what you showed us in the crontab. There the scripts are set to run at specific times
[05:07] <Boyette> yes i know
[05:07] <Boyette> because i dont know how to do that like the way i was saying
[05:07] <Boyette> so i was thinking of first running it like this 2 times a day
[05:08] <Boyette> but better would be that the other sh is always starting when the other stops
[05:08] <Boyette> but i dont know if crontab supports that at all
[05:08] <Boyette> because it looks pretty time based to me
[05:09] <hggdh> cron actions are time-based, on the schedule you provided
[05:09] <Boyette> yes so what i want cant be achieved with crontab at all?
 perhaps. if you want script2 to be run after script1, then probably the easiest way is to merge both of them
[05:11] <Boyette> thats impossible
[05:11] <Boyette> i think
[05:11] <Boyette> :P
[05:11] <Boyette> but would actually make sense
[05:13] <Boyette> but the problem is i think that in the run.sh is not defined when the script stops
[05:13] <Boyette> it just stops when its finished
[05:14] <Boyette> so how to determine that
[05:14] <hggdh> it ends at the end of the script
[05:14] <Boyette> this is the run.sh
[05:14] <Boyette> https://pastebin.com/yAENyPCq
[05:14] <kernal> put the commands from script2 into the bottom of script1
[05:14] <kernal> making only one script
[05:15] <Boyette> this is script 1
[05:15] <Boyette> e script
[05:15] <kernal> that way the fpt will only start after the commands from script1 has finished
[05:15] <Boyette> https://pastebin.com/yAENyPCq
[05:15] <Boyette> can it really be added there?
[05:15] <Boyette> because it using mono
[05:15] <Boyette> and .exe
[05:16] <hggdh> yes. Now, if the call to mono will ever end, this is a different issue
[05:16] <Boyette> exactly
[05:16] <Boyette> that will just end when its finished doing its business
[05:16] <Boyette> but the script is just to start that not to end that process
[05:17] <Boyette> thats why i was doing it like this with enough time to be sure its finished
[05:17] <hggdh> no...
[05:18] <kernal> bash will only move onto the next line/command if the previous line/command has finished
[05:18] <Boyette> so if the process is still running it will know?
[05:18] <hggdh> let's suppose, for the sake of argument, the the program called by mono DOES end. It may take a few seconds, or a few hours
[05:18] <hggdh> I do not really care
[05:18] <Boyette> yes it takes hours
[05:19] <hggdh> AFTER the mono program ends, then the next script line will be executed (exit 0)
[05:19] <hggdh> so, add your second script before the exit 0 line
[05:19] <Boyette> quit 0 you mean ?
[05:20] <hggdh> yes
[05:20] <hggdh> and I am pretty sure this script is being re-purposed
[05:21] <Boyette> so like this ?
[05:21] <Boyette> https://pastebin.com/vZKV1z6V
[05:23] <hggdh> almost. move the 'exec 2>&1 ...' to the top, after the real shebang
[05:25] <Boyette> like this
[05:25] <Boyette> https://pastebin.com/4pPB29sq
[05:25] <Boyette> but actually this script does log very well
[05:25] <Boyette> in crontab1 and 3
[05:25] <Boyette> already
[05:28] <hggdh> as you wish, then
[05:28] <Boyette> but it doesnt matter
[05:28] <Boyette> to make 2 logs
[05:28] <Boyette> do you think its fine like this?
[05:28] <Boyette> https://pastebin.com/4pPB29sq
[05:28] <hggdh> yes
[05:29] <Boyette> ok but if this works
[05:29] <Boyette> its just 1 process now
[05:29] <hggdh> yes
[05:29] <Boyette> but how do we make sure that 1 process is restarting as soon as its finished?
[05:29] <Boyette> or always running
[05:30] <hggdh> then you have to change the logic
[05:30] <hggdh> but this is not something I have time to do now
[05:30] <hggdh> (heading for bed)
[05:30] <Boyette> ok
[05:30] <Boyette> do u have 1 minute
[05:30] <hggdh> 1 minute
[05:30] <Boyette> i will check what happens if i do run.sh now
[05:30] <hggdh> via cron
[05:31] <Boyette> manually
[05:31] <Boyette> it should also work
[05:31] <hggdh> but your probme is with cron
[05:31] <hggdh> ah well
[05:32] <Boyette> well
[05:32] <Boyette> not anymore if the 2 scripts are 1 now
[05:32] <Boyette> because 1 runs fine
[05:32] <Boyette> it wont suddenly stop doing that i suppose
[05:33] <hggdh> Boyette: you really do not know shell scripting, do you?
[05:34] <Boyette> i dont
[05:34] <Boyette> i used google
[05:34] <kernal> your original problem was that the ftp did not run in cron?
[05:34] <Boyette> for all of this so far
[05:34] <hggdh> ah
[05:34] <Boyette> yes
[05:34] <kernal> and you said it would run when you manually run it
[05:34] <Boyette> yes it did
[05:34] <kernal> so manually running it now, it will prob work again
[05:35] <hggdh> you need to start learning :-)
[05:35] <Boyette> well but now we merged it
[05:35] <kernal> circling back to your original problem, that it won't run in cron again
[05:35] <hggdh> yes, it should work (if It was before, manually) with the two script together
[05:35] <Boyette> but it doesnt run anymore  :P
[05:35] <Boyette> manually
[05:35] <hggdh> but it will most probably fail the same under cron
[05:36] <hggdh> OK. pastebin the log
[05:36] <Boyette> just saying
[05:37] <Boyette> line2: /tmp/cron-out.log: no such file or directory
[05:37] <Boyette> i have to make it in root i think
[05:37] <hggdh> you do not have /tmp?
[05:38] <hggdh> dammit
[05:38] <Boyette> apparently
[05:38] <hggdh> exec 2>&1 > /tmp/cron-out.log
[05:38] <Boyette> no
[05:38] <hggdh> we missed the second '>'
[05:38] <Boyette> i do have a tmp
[05:39] <Boyette> ah ok
[05:40] <Boyette> now its running
[05:40] <Boyette> but i dont see anything in terminal anymore
[05:40] <Boyette> so i cant see what its doing
[05:40] <Boyette> just blinking cursor
[05:40] <Boyette> probably because it writing only to the log now
[05:40] <hggdh> no, you will not, since it is writing to /tmp/cron-out.log
[05:40] <Boyette> actually more tidy
[05:41] <hggdh> BEFORE pastebinning the log -- sanitise the output (server address, user, password)
[05:41] <Boyette> yes its working
[05:41] <Boyette> i can see in the cron out log now that its doing its job
[05:41] <hggdh> yes, it would work (based on you asserting it was working manually before)
[05:42] <hggdh> it is the cron run that will fail
[05:42] <Boyette> well this script 1 was also working with cron
[05:42] <Boyette> but script 2 not
[05:42] <Boyette> but according to the fact that script 2 is now in script 1 it will be fine with only script 1
[05:42] <hggdh> and, since script 1 is now followed by script 2, then it will fail
[05:42] <Boyette> unless cron is now also struggling on script 1 because it doesnt like script 2 in there
[05:42] <Boyette> maybe
[05:42] <Boyette> well see
[05:42] <hggdh> nothing to do
[05:43] <Boyette> but we adjusted that aswell
[05:43] <hggdh> script 2 (embedded in the first script will fail because it was failing before
[05:43] <hggdh> and nothing was changed
[05:43] <Boyette> but the script itself was not failing .. only when cron runned it
[05:43] <Boyette> so probably this time it will work because i runned it manually
[05:43] <hggdh> yes. I know. And this is what I have been telling you
[05:44] <Boyette> but when cron runs it next time we will see
[05:44] <Boyette> yes exactly
[05:44] <Boyette> but we also added the call to the directory
[05:44] <Boyette> which might solve it
[05:44] <hggdh> you will find out
[05:44] <hggdh> :-)
[05:44] <hggdh> and... I am out
[05:44] <Boyette> thank you sir!
[05:44] <hggdh> yw
[05:45] <Boyette> kernal are you still there?
[05:45] <kernal> no
[05:45] <Boyette> lol
[05:45] <Boyette> i think u were completely right in the first place
[05:45] <Boyette> look at this
[05:45] <Boyette> CRON [2340] (root) CMD (bash /root/ftp.sh  >> root/cronjobs1.log)
[05:45] <Boyette> that was in the original systemlog
[05:45] <Boyette> /root/ftp.sh   (this is incorrect)
[05:45] <Boyette> should be
[05:46] <Boyette> /root/x/ftp.sh
[05:46] <Boyette> which is indicating that crontab tries to run ftp.sh from root
[05:46] <Boyette> where it is not located
[05:46] <Boyette> thats exactly what u pointed out
[05:46] <kernal> ;)
[05:46] <Boyette> i just noticed when i send that line again to hggdh
[05:46] <kernal> bloody pull paths and cron
[05:47] <Boyette> it never catched my eye
[05:47] <Boyette> so probably the cd command is already solving it all
[05:48] <Boyette> and my mistake was it didnt matter because run.sh worked fine.. but run.sh is not pointing out to any local directory.. it goes online
[05:48] <Boyette> so the problem was not applicable to run.sh because it doesnt use any local directions
[05:48] <Boyette> thats my mistake where i went thinking in the wrong direction
[05:48] <kernal> hggdh, seems very knowledgeable
[05:49] <Boyette> i think he is a programmer
[05:49] <Boyette> but to be honest this is actually not rocket science
[05:49] <Boyette> but he knows shell scripting
[05:49] <Boyette> i dont
[05:49] <Boyette> i just googled it all so far
[05:51] <Boyette> anyway thank you very much
[05:51] <Boyette> lets hope this fixed it
[05:51] <Boyette> otherwise i really know now where the problem is
[05:53] <Boyette> and maybe this will make sure it always runs later
[05:53] <Boyette> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/298760/how-to-make-sure-an-application-keeps-running-on-linux
[05:57] <Boyette> out
[06:28] <Talikkaf> Is it possible to download a pre-release of Ubuntu MATE 18.04 (alpha, beta, RC or something similar?)
[06:29] <alkisg> Talikkaf: sure, there are the daily build isos available
[06:30] <Talikkaf> indeed
[06:30] <Talikkaf> silly me, why did I not google it.  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/daily-live/
[09:18] <mate|1240> i am having a problem with insync not starting in 17.10 can anybody help me ?
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