[09:38] <Alex[RM-UK] > how do you get Syntax highlighting in Quanta Plus?
[09:38] <muadda2> Hello, how to read a DVD with Ubuntu? Do I need to install the Marillat packages like on Debian ?
[09:38] <mt_holden_ss> can i run limewire and itunes?
[09:38] <Seveas> mt_holden_ss, yes and no
[09:39] <Alex[RM-UK] > how do you get Syntax highlighting in Quanta Plus?
[09:39] <mt_holden_ss> limeiwre yes
[09:39] <Seveas> !tell holden about limewire
[09:39] <mt_holden_ss> how?
[09:39] <jareth_> Sseveas: why i greatly enjoyed Auotmatix...
[09:39] <varsendagger> csb * really helpful when talking to people, you can just <tab> over their names so that is faster
[09:39] <Seveas> mt_holden_ss, for itunes: gtkpod or banshee
[09:39] <theD3viL> hm..if i install winxp and leave 1 partition unused (no partition type) .. how can i install ubuntu on it...? What i must select in install progres?
[09:39] <jareth_> Sseveas: ?
[09:39] <aedes> once you upgrade a package, it is easy to downgrade?
[09:39] <Seveas> jareth_, well, you're doomed
[09:39] <Seveas> automatix is even worse
[09:39] <Seveas> mindless overwriting of config files
[09:40] <self> jareth samba is running thanks for the help!
[09:40] <Seveas> STUPID --force-yes
[09:40] <jareth_> Seveas: explain yourself
[09:40] <Seveas> and more of such crap
[09:40] <Seveas> jareth_, just did
[09:40] <mt_holden_ss> limewiere someone explain to me pls
[09:40] <Seveas> easyubuntu, automatix and all such scripts are utter crap and should NOT be used
[09:40] <Seveas> mt_holden_ss, ubotu sent you a link
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:40] <jareth_> Seveas: mm but i don't have any broken depd yet?
[09:40] <Seveas> jareth_, pure luck
[09:40] <mt_holden_ss> ive downloaded the limewire linux and other download
[09:41] <mt_holden_ss> wheres the link?
[09:41] <ajmitch_2> Seveas: oh that's good to know :)
[09:41] <miket_> hi
[09:41] <self> does any one know how to set up cups?
[09:41] <jareth_> Seveas: probably get problems when dist-upgrade?
[09:41] <Seveas> jareth_, not at all unlikely
[09:41] <Seveas> but probably even before that
[09:42] <jareth_> Seveas: hmmmmmm :((((((
[09:42] <Seveas> lots of people already had to reinstall after using the crap
[09:42] <jareth_> Seveas: good to know :)
[09:42] <mt_holden_ss> wheres the link regarding limewire?
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> mt_holden_ss,  ask the bot "!limewire"
[09:42] <Seveas> mt_holden_ss, in a private chat
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> mt_holden_ss,  or go straight to the ubuntu wiki and search for it.
[09:42] <mediafly> Are there any problems to check WindowsXP partitions for bad sectors?
[09:43] <miket_> can anybody tell me how to deinstall realplayer when I installed it that way: sudo ./RealPlayer*.bin?????????
[09:43] <mediafly> programs
[09:43] <aedes> self, cups should be pretty much setup (I think)
[09:43] <mt_holden_ss> !limewire
[09:43] <ubotu> methinks limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[09:43] <Seveas> miket_, sudo rm -rf /path/where/you/installed/the/crap
[09:43] <ubuntu> ciao
[09:43] <ale8one> methinks limewire is a pos
[09:43] <bluefox83> why would you install limewire? gtk-gnutella uses the same network and works a lot better
[09:43] <miket_> THX
[09:43] <JDahl> anyone knows what I have to change in apache2 conf. files if I want to execute php scripts that are not in /var/www?
[09:44] <bushblowz> how do i mount a floppy
[09:44] <varsendagger> and you can just use synaptic
[09:44] <self> aedes i now have windows talking to linux is there any security issues you can think of ?
[09:44] <Seveas> JDahl, you need to install libapache2-mod-php5 (or 4_
[09:44] <pder> are there any free tools to move an ext3 partition?  parted can not change the starting cylinder of an ext3 partition
[09:44] <Seveas> nothing more
[09:44] <djk_> bushblowz: mount /dev/fd0 probably
[09:44] <topyli> damn vlc depends on a lot of stuff
[09:44] <bluefox83> bushblowz, mount /dev/fd0 /floppy
[09:44] <zAo^> will FF 1.5 be backported?
[09:44] <Seveas> zAo^, most likely
[09:44] <zAo^> thnx
[09:44] <Seveas> but not really soon, since it is VERY invasive
[09:44] <JDahl> Seveas, I did that, and php works if the script is in /var/www. I want to execute scripts that are not in /var/www
[09:45] <Seveas> JDahl, that should make NO difference at all
[09:45] <self> how would the printer show itself in the linux box?
[09:45] <bluefox83> JDahl, you might try using links to them..
[09:45] <mt_holden_ss> gtk-gnutella explain im a noov
[09:45] <mt_holden_ss> noob
[09:45] <bluefox83> JDahl, ln -s script newlocation
[09:45] <mt_holden_ss> iv been just usin limewire all my time on the net
[09:46] <csb> bluefox: it looks like there is a bunch of config stuff in my home dir under .gconf
[09:46] <csb> just fyi
[09:46] <bluefox83> yeah
[09:46] <topyli> csb: good :)
[09:47] <JDahl> Seveas, you are right. It doesnt make a difference
[09:47] <bluefox83> i wasn't sure how ubuntu handles gnome's config files, most distros just let gnome use ~/.gnome
[09:47] <agger> Hi, good evening - don't have a lot to say, this is my first time on IRC, so I guess I'll start by shutting up and listening a bit
[09:47] <csb> i also have kde installed, but i use gnome 99% of the time. is there any danger using Konsole as my terminal? i like it more than the gnome terminal
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> agger,  :) you show potential!
[09:47] <topyli> csb: no worries there
[09:47] <sexcopter8000m> anyone know anything about dvd regions and in particular how to get round the problem?
[09:48] <csb> bluefox83: yeah i looked in .gnome. there seems to be more in the ./gconf dirs, although there is stuff in .gnome/
[09:48] <gallonegro> how do i change the persimon on a file or folder
[09:48] <bluefox83> csb, well for starters, you can make your gnome terminal emulate any aspect of the Konsole, and second..there is no danger
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> sexcopter8000m,  many of the dvd player programs out for linux - can get around the region stuff  (or so i hear)
[09:48] <Dekkard> csb: no
[09:48] <csb> will some kde apps not work? i keep getting an error in gnome when i run "terminal"
[09:48] <topyli> csb: .gnome is for old gnome-1 apps. modern gnome keeps its settings in .gnome2
[09:48] <agger> gallonegro: chmod  is used to change permissions
[09:48] <csb> something about a child process missing
[09:49] <bluefox83> csb, you might need to be a little more specific than just terminal, try gnome-terminal
[09:49] <agger> chmod a+rw will allow all to read and write a file
[09:49] <soundray> bluefox83, is there a way to mark text in the console ignoring the newlines?
[09:49] <Dekkard> gallonegro:  or you can change file permissions from within the properties dialogue for any file
[09:49] <leetbox> does anyone know of the name of the program that transforms images into dot-images (hard to explain)
[09:49] <bluefox83> soundray, say what!?!?!
[09:49] <csb> so basically if i backup .gnome, .gnome2, gconf, etc...then if i blow ubuntu away and replace those files my desktop should be the same?
[09:49] <agger> chmod og-w will remove write permissions on a file for "others" and "group members"
[09:49] <sexcopter8000m> Dr_Willis, it's actually for a friend using xp :s
[09:49] <topyli> csb: everything should work, it doesn't which desktop you happen to be using
[09:49] <gallonegro> thank you dekkard
[09:50] <gallonegro>  i idindt know it was that easy
[09:50] <csb> bluefox83: this is the "terminal" under "System Tools" under "Applications" in gnome
[09:50] <Dekkard> np
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> sexcopter8000m,  try 'vlc' for windows then. :P  its decent media player.
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> sexcopter8000m,  and it can play dvd's and even stream them to other pc's
[09:50] <bluefox83> csb, that's probably gnome-terminal then..i dunno why it's saying that though...
[09:50] <soundray> bluefox83, if you hold Ctrl and mark text in Konsole, all of it gets copied to the clipboard *except* the newline characters. It would be great if I could do that in gnome-terminal.
[09:50] <csb> and is there any reason to install gnomebaker if i have the built in ubuntu burner
[09:50] <Coburn> how i can save the config in icewm when i exit?????
[09:50] <topyli> csb: settings are all over the place. there's .nautilus, and many apps keep their settings in their own dot-files. just look at your home directory
[09:51] <bluefox83> soundray, what are newline charectors?
[09:51] <Dersursine> Hey, I just rebooted my system after a kernel update and it booted up as Kubuntu. (I know I had that package installed, but didn't expect the bootup stuff to change). Any changes happen or is my system just being weird?
[09:51] <Red-Sox> didymo: hi
[09:51] <Dersursine> logging in looks like normal gnome tho.
[09:51] <csb> topyli: so if i were to blow away ubuntu and re-install...if i were to backup my ENTIRE /home dir and replace it after re-install, could i expect things to be like they were before the re-install?
[09:52] <bluefox83> it changed yout GDM settings to boot kde instead of gnome
[09:52] <bluefox83> *your
[09:52] <bluefox83> er, launch..not boot :P
[09:52] <didymo> red-sox: morning
[09:52] <Red-Sox> didymo: afternoon for me ;)
[09:52] <bluefox83> csb, probably, i don't see why they wouldn't be
[09:52] <soundray> bluefox83, ach, forget it.
[09:52] <maddash> is anyone here using openbox w/o gnome?
[09:53] <bluefox83> whats openbox?
[09:53] <jareth_> maddash: tried it.. yes
[09:53] <bluefox83> !openbox
[09:53] <ubotu> bluefox83: What?
[09:53] <bluefox83> lol
[09:53] <jareth_> bluefox83: light wm
[09:53] <pder> why doesnt ubuntu support moving ext3 partitions?
[09:53] <topyli> csb: well speaking for myself, i've gotten pretty much comfortable recoveries. i backup /home, /etc, and the installed package list as reported from dpkg
[09:53] <maddash> jareth_: how's it feel/look? better when tied to gnome?
[09:53] <bluefox83> oh..no sorry i don't use that one..i use icewm
[09:53] <Coburn> how i can save the config in icewm when i exit?????
[09:54] <jareth_> maddash: you have openbox installed already?
[09:54] <soundray> pder, how do you conclude that it doesn't?
[09:54] <csb> does dpkg tell you what packages you have installed thus far?
[09:54] <bluefox83> Coburn, icewm saves it's own config
[09:54] <topyli> csb: dpkg --get-selections
[09:54] <pder> soundray from the documentation for parted
[09:54] <maddash> jareth_: I've installed openbox, and logged into it w/o gnome, but I can't get any of the desktop icons/taskbar to be displayed
[09:55] <soundray> pder, in that case, Ubuntu isn't to blame.
[09:55] <jareth_> maddash: try logging into gnome again
[09:55] <topyli> csb: dump the output to a text file and save it. then, on a new install, you can say dpkg --get-selections < file.text
[09:55] <sean_> Hi, linux newb here, so please don't laugh, but I need help logging in as admin
[09:55] <jareth_> maddash: when logged in type: openbox --replace
[09:55] <pder> soundray: ubuntu is to blame for not including a utility that can do it
[09:55] <jeremywhiting> hi all, anyone here know were I can set ubuntu to know that my hardware clock is set to localtime, not GMT?
[09:55] <jareth_> maddash: this will change defailt wm in gnome
[09:56] <bluefox83> sean_, open a terminal window up, type in "su" and hit enter, it'll prompt you for a password..enter your root password
[09:56] <Coburn> bluefox83 ok how can i tell to icewm to lunch rox desktop at start
[09:56] <soundray> pder, do you know of a utility that can?
[09:56] <pder> soundray: no
[09:56] <Agrajag> bluefox83: what?
[09:56] <sean_> I did, and it didn't accept
[09:56] <jareth_> maddash: openbox running alone is pretty bare..
[09:56] <maddash> jareth_: no, I got that part already, and I'm actually running openbox on top of gnome, but I can't seem to get openbox w/o gnome working properly...
[09:56] <Agrajag> bluefox83: ...you don't use ubuntu much do you?
[09:56] <nickrud> jeremywhiting, you can change that in /etc/default/rcS
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> jeremywhiting,  its a file in /etc/  - /etc/timezone or similer.   - i had to change it a few mo ago.
[09:56] <maddash> jarerth_: agreed - what config files could I edit to change that?
[09:56] <bluefox83> Agrajag, i use debian ;)
[09:56] <sean_> I just installed, and it didn't ask for a root password (Running Ubuntu
[09:56] <Agrajag> sean_: open up a terminal and run sudo -i, and enter in your user password.
[09:57] <zAo^> sean_,  try "sudo -s"
[09:57] <Agrajag> bluefox83: ubuntu locks the root account.
[09:57] <jareth_> maddash: that i haven't found out yet...
[09:57] <bluefox83> Agrajag, i know..i forgot about that..
[09:57] <jareth_> maddash: what problems do you have now then?
[09:57] <didymo> red sox: well it is 08:00 for me
[09:57] <didymo> red sox: and an overcast day it is too
[09:57] <topyli> damn building vlc takes a long time
[09:58] <sean_> What is sudo, just so I know (Already tried it, and it worked
[09:58] <bluefox83> it was overcast and raining cats and dogs earlier..now it's nice and shiney out...
[09:58] <soundray> pder, there you go.
[09:58] <jfletcher> topyli: shouldnt be that much :o
[09:58] <jeremywhiting> thanks guys
[09:58] <bluefox83> topyli, vlc has every codec you will ever need..
[09:58] <mediafly>  Does anyone know a yahoo messenger which supports  voice options?
[09:58] <Coburn> bluefox83 ok how can i tell to icewm to lunch rox desktop at start??
[09:58] <soundray> pder, I'm sure if you don't need the journal, you can move an ext3 fs as if it were ext2.
[09:58] <maddash> jareth_: openbox w/o gnome is rather bare...I'm trying to get some icons/taskbar widgets to be displayed, in addition to the context menu which only launches firefox and the terminal
[09:58] <danzoo> hi, do I have to load any module in breezy or install an specific package to be able to read data dvds? I can see movie dvd but data dvd can not be seen at all
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> bluefox83,  ive found a few videos that vlc aint playing right at this time ..  but just a few
[09:59] <topyli> jfletcher: i'm building from dapper source, and it depends on all sorts of new libraries i have to build too :)
[09:59] <selinium> jeremywhiting, Right click on the clock/adjust time and date/timezoines
[09:59] <bluefox83> mediafly, gaim will support yahoo voice and video in about a month or so, keep an eye out for gaim-2.0.0 besides that no yahoo messanger available for linux works with video or audio
[09:59] <jareth_> maddash: have you looked in .openbox?
[09:59] <zAo^> danzoo, sudo apt-get install lsdvd (multiverse req)
[09:59] <selinium> jeremywhiting, all done easy that way!
[09:59] <brown`> Is Ubuntu a good Linux to use for an internet server?  I'd like to use a Linux distribution with timely security updates, updates that I can easily install over the net with very little effort.
[09:59] <danzoo> thanks zAo^
[09:59] <topyli> bluefox83: true. i just want to build with the gtk2 support
[09:59] <jeremywhiting> cool, thanks
[09:59] <bluefox83> Dr_Fate, just need to tweak it..sometimed it picks the wrong codec..so you have to do it manually
[09:59] <jareth_> maddash: not existing :)
[09:59] <jfletcher> topyli: ah.
[09:59] <selinium> jeremywhiting, no problems! :)
[10:00] <maddash> jareth_: huh? where's it located?
[10:00] <bluefox83> *simetimes
[10:00] <zAo^> brown`, ubuntu has that. Just run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -f
[10:00] <Dersursine> whats the bot's name to msg it?
[10:00] <selinium> brown`, It sure is, it is what i do!
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> bluefox83,  yea - been twiddling wih it - i think the vidos are using a  very new audio-codec-version/variantion.
[10:00] <jeremywhiting> selenium: sorry that's not it, I already have the right timezone
[10:00] <jbroome> Dersursine: ubotu is the bot
[10:00] <Dersursine> ty
[10:00] <jbroome> np
[10:00] <maddash> jareth_: I've already tried editing the rc.xml and obconf - they don't do much
[10:00] <bluefox83> Dr_Fate, sometimes putting on very obscure codecs and trying it gives better results than the ones you would think to use..
[10:01] <selinium> jeremywhiting, :/ strange and it is still showing the wrong time?
[10:01] <binks> the bottom of this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70173 i need to do that how plz
[10:01] <jeremywhiting> I just need ubuntu to realize that the bios clock is set to localtime, not the default GMT, so when I boot back to windows every so often the clock isn't 5 hours off
[10:01] <szronik> How can I increase the responsiveness of my internet connection? It was quite a bit more responsive under Windows - I don't know if this has to do with DNS lookups or the Ethernet card settings.
[10:01] <theD3viL> hm..if i install winxp and leave 1 partition unused (no partition type) .. how can i install ubuntu on it...? What i must select in install progres? Do i must leave 2 partitons (1 for swap) ?
[10:01] <jeremywhiting> it shows the right time in ubuntu, just not in windows
[10:01] <brown`> zAo^ and selinium: Thanks very much.
[10:01] <adjacent> i am creating a chroot jail for my users. however, when i go to ssh in as a test jailed user, i get user testuser does not exist.
[10:01] <jareth_> maddash: hmmm thinking.. but....
[10:01] <zAo^> szronik, lock /etc/resolv.conf or use the DHCP-DNS howto
[10:01] <ubuntu> hay
[10:01] <adjacent> i think this is because /bin/su is using pam. is anyone familiar with this?
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> theD3viL,  leave one section "unallocated" and the installer can use/partion that unallocated space
[10:01] <topyli> brown`: being so much like debian, ubuntu is also very easy to maintain over ssh remotely
[10:01] <Dersursine> Hmm... since the bot seems clueless about it, would it be a dumb idea to ask what dapper is? (Most google results arent in english, and number one is someones rat, I think (litteraly))
[10:01] <soundray> jeremywhiting, set it in /etc/default/rcS
[10:01] <jeremywhiting> cause ubuntu and most default unix configs figure the bios clock is GMT and adjust off of that, but windows doesn't
[10:02] <jeremywhiting> thanks soundray
[10:02] <selinium> brown`, there is a great walk through on creating a LAMP system on ubuntu at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:02] <szronik> zAo^: Lock it or look in it?
[10:02] <zAo^> szronik, follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StaticDnsWithDhcp
[10:02] <szronik> zAo^: Do you know how I can change the ethernet card settings to half duplex ?
[10:02] <zAo^> szronik, it will be fine afterwards
[10:02] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, hm..and i must to give install proces, manual partitioning ?
[10:02] <zAo^> szronik, no, but why should you?
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> theD3viL,  i just rember checking "use esisting unallocated space" or similer.
[10:03] <szronik> zAo^: Well, I had a problem under Windows with transfers, something to do with the hub I am using, and transfers dropped from 80kb/s to 2kb/s and lower if the card was set to full duplex mode.
[10:03] <soundray> pder, still here?
[10:03] <Maikshit> ji
[10:03] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, huh, nice...probbaly manual and then  "use esisting unallocated space" or similer.
[10:04] <Maikshit> how i can try to install ubuntu without cdrom drive, i need floppy + network install
[10:04] <zAo^> szronik, tried in linux? what protocol? FTP?
[10:05] <Maikshit> ftp, http, nfs
[10:05] <Red-Sox> jfletcher: hi
[10:05] <jfletcher> Red-Sox: ahoy.
[10:05] <zAo^> sorry szronik have to go. later
[10:05] <Red-Sox> james__: hi
[10:05] <james__> hello!
[10:06] <Red-Sox> figarojonez: hi
[10:06] <Red-Sox> micahf: hi
[10:06] <jfletcher> Thaught I owned the name james__ from like 4 years back =E
[10:06] <micahf> hey do youguys know of some good jukebox software?
[10:06] <micahf> hi red-sox
[10:06] <jfletcher> micahf: beep-media-player
[10:06] <micahf> this kid is switching from windows
[10:06] <csb> topyli: ok, so that dpkg stuff...so i can keep installing stuff, and as long as i kick it out to a file name, after i re-installed i can just do that second command and all of the packages would be re-installed?
[10:06] <micahf> beep?
[10:06] <Red-Sox> micahf: rhythmbox
[10:06] <micahf> he is used to itunes
[10:06] <micahf> what's best from itunes?
[10:06] <szronik> zAo^: Thanks for your help :)
[10:06] <Red-Sox> micahf: hi
[10:06] <jfletcher> beep is like winamp
[10:06] <danzoo> micahf, amarok
[10:06] <james__> how does one go about mountig volume for floppy drive?
[10:06] <Red-Sox> nadia007: hi
[10:06] <micahf> I don't think he wants to pay for crossover office
[10:06] <nadia007> hi guys...
[10:06] <micahf> amorak?
[10:06] <csb> topyli: including kde, xcfe, gnomebaker, games, etc...
[10:07] <Red-Sox> micahf: rhythmbox, amorak, xmms
[10:07] <danzoo> micahf, amarok
[10:07] <theD3viL> micahf, amarok is for kde
[10:07] <james__> newb
[10:07] <micahf> it would work on gnome too though
[10:07] <Red-Sox> theD3viL: it still runs on gnome
[10:07] <Red-Sox> babag: hi
[10:07] <danzoo> theD3viL, looks very well on gnome any way
[10:07] <Red-Sox> pundai: hi
[10:07] <nadia007> is there a way I can mount a drive and have it automatically mount on boot?
[10:07] <theD3viL> micahf, yes, but it requires 80mb of files :)
[10:07] <dell500> bluefox83:  you still around?? :)
[10:07] <lsuactiafner> how do i find the current amd64 athlon kernel's config?
[10:07] <Red-Sox> Techie_dude: hi
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> nadia007,  edit your /etc/fstab correctly adding the right entry for hte drive
[10:07] <babag> just reinstalled. still no keyboard or mouse. any help?
[10:07] <Red-Sox> Seveas: is it okay, me greeting people?
[10:07] <lsuactiafner> i want the .config
[10:08] <topyli> csb: yeah. you do dpkg --get-selections and then apt-get dist-upgrade or something. let me find you the link to my own notes
[10:08] <theD3viL> Is autofs thing that auto mount cd,dvd,usb?
[10:08] <Red-Sox> rave_: hey
[10:08] <theCore> how do i install Plone on Ubuntu ?
[10:08] <rave_> well
[10:08] <DShepherd> aptitude install plone
[10:08] <maddash> jareth_: I'm gonna try E16 now. thanks anyway
[10:09] <rave_> sudo apt-get install plone
[10:09] <micahf> I'm using nautilus in xfce
[10:09] <csb> topyli: so then, theoretically i could install Ubuntu on a totally different machine, and as long as i copied my /home dir and /etc...and then did the dpkg --get-selections command...theoretically i would have a clone of my current machine?
[10:09] <micahf> but nautilus is gnome!?
[10:09] <soundray> pder, are you still on?
[10:09] <Maikshit> how i can try to install ubuntu without cdrom drive, i need floppy + network install
[10:09] <micahf> it's good with xfce
[10:09] <theCore> DShepherd: i tried this, but where does it go ?
[10:09] <pder> soundray yes
[10:09] <micahf> who here is on xfce?
[10:09] <helo212> how do i get a list of all the things i can get by using sudo apt-get install
[10:09] <micahf> it is marvelous
[10:09] <topyli> csb: http://siltala.net/comp/tips.html#Downgrading_Packages_in_Debian
[10:09] <DShepherd> theCore plone?
[10:09] <soundray> pder, it seems that Parted 1.6.21 supports moving ext3. Do you have an old version?
[10:10] <topyli> csb: yes
[10:10] <theCore> DShepherd, yes
[10:10] <topyli> csb: of course, if you have a server, a lot of stuff will be in /var too
[10:10] <oxez>  is there anything I need to configure to use my microphone?
[10:11] <pder> soundray: i didnt realize that, i was just looking at the parted homepage it says it doesnt
[10:11] <theD3viL> soundray, how do you think moving?
[10:11] <oxez> All captures are unmuted and are set to the highest volume.. still can't record in Audacity
[10:11] <Hoxzer> what could be the problem if I can hear my voice from mic if I set the mixer so, but sound recorder doesn't record from mic?
[10:11] <topyli> csb: plus all the stuff you compiled yourself (but never bothered to package) are in /usr/local. and perhaps your Quake3 is in /opt...
[10:11] <blue-frog> oxez, not working?
[10:11] <lsuactiafner> would http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kernel-package/kernel-package_9.001ubuntu9.tar.gz contain its .config?
[10:11] <oxez> blue-frog: it's not receiving any input
[10:11] <DShepherd> theCore: you can do a search.
[10:11] <nadia007> kay...  I've edited my fstab... not sure what to put as far as options so I copied what my /sda1 had... any suggestions?
[10:11] <oxez> blue-frog: BUT, I hear myself in my headphones when I speak in my microphone
[10:11] <JDahl> my php script works fine when it's called 'test.php', but if I call it 'index.php' Mozilla asks what to do with PHTML files. Anyone encountered this?
[10:11] <blue-frog> oxez, alsamixer mic1 mic2 , which one shows right now?
[10:11] <Maikshit> how i can try to install ubuntu without cdrom drive, i need floppy + network install
[10:12] <Fujitsu> nadia007: What type of drive is it?
[10:12] <DShepherd> theCore: why u want to lauch plone?
[10:12] <soundray> theD3viL, pder, section 2.4.8 of the info manual lists ext3 among the file systems for which move is supported.
[10:12] <blue-frog> oxez, ah
[10:12] <oxez> blue-frog: mic1
[10:12] <nadia007> serial ata.
[10:12] <nadia007> they all are.
[10:12] <bamboozle> hi
[10:12] <csb> topyli: i noticed in the file i created on my system that there are a lot of packages that were intalled with ubuntu. is there any danger in running that command if the package already exists?
[10:12] <Zedugh> oxez: in audacity, you must select mic, not line, as input, drop down list, middle of window, see "Line"
[10:12] <blue-frog> oxez, any other sound program open besides audacity?
[10:12] <helo212> Does anyone know where i can get a list of all the apps i can get using apt-get?
[10:13] <oxez> blue-frog: gnome recorder program in Applications menu
[10:13] <oxez> Zedugh: I selected MIC already
[10:13] <DShepherd> helo212: try synaptic :)
[10:13] <pder> soundray: thank you
[10:13] <csb> i.e. gnome is already installed, but the dpkg file lists it. will it try to download it again? thanks for your help, this is very helpful
[10:13] <topyli> csb: no. if the package is already installed, dpkg will just be happy
[10:13] <Zedugh> helo212, try synaptic, if you want to use apt-get to install, you must close synaptic first
[10:13] <Aelthor> helo212: You can use apt-get with anything in Synaptic
[10:13] <theCore> DShepherd, i just want to try it
[10:13] <helo212> okay is there skype in there and camserv
[10:13] <Fujitsu> nadia007: What partition type?
[10:13] <helo212> in the synaptic?
[10:13] <Maikshit> Somebody can help me???, i need to install Ubuntu on laptop without cdrom
[10:13] <Fujitsu> Sorry, filesystem...
[10:13] <blue-frog> oxez, is gnome recorder recording your mike
[10:13] <Zedugh> oxez: did you raise the volume slider to the left of the mic selection?
[10:14] <Fujitsu> Maikshit: I don't know if it can be done, but somebody else might.
[10:14] <soundray> Maikshit, this is a difficult one.
[10:14] <self> Dshepherd, network printing. is it set in cups?
[10:14] <oxez> Zedugh: DAMN
[10:14] <DShepherd> helo212: all the programs listed in synaptic you can apt-get them
[10:14] <Maikshit> if i have external HD USB
[10:14] <oxez> Yea it works now in Audacity
[10:14] <DShepherd> self: i dont know
[10:14] <Zedugh> oxez: glad it was not any bigger problem!
[10:14] <soundray> Maikshit, no USB CD even?
[10:14] <oxez> blue-frog: nope, but it might be the same problem as audacity had
[10:14] <oxez> Zedugh: thanks a lot :P
[10:15] <DShepherd> theCore: try this link http://www.jalug.org/Members/pigeonflight/blog/plone2.1-setup-on-breezy <-- walks you thru setting up plone and everthing
[10:15] <helo212> okay i get that but is camserv and skype in the synaptic
[10:15] <Maikshit> no,
[10:15] <Maikshit> only HD USb
[10:15] <Maikshit> or floppy
[10:15] <self> ok samba is working linux to windows ...so any ideas how to network print?
[10:15] <blue-frog> oxez, mic to zero sure doen's help
[10:15] <theCore> DShepherd, thanks
[10:15] <bluefoxicy> there's no Windows XP or MacOSX theme on ubuntu.
[10:15] <Fujitsu> Maikshit, this could be bad... A possibility is to crossgrade from Debian, but I am not sure how well that will work.
[10:15] <oxez> blue-frog: my mic was set to high in alsamixer
[10:15] <Maikshit> Fujitsu
[10:15] <Maikshit> Hi
[10:15] <Maikshit> my idea, it's to use Ubuntu why detect any hardware
[10:16] <DShepherd> helo212: go to packages.ubuntu.com and search there if it isnt listed then it wont be in synaptic or apt-get
[10:16] <helo212> thankyou
[10:16] <DShepherd> helo212: np
[10:17] <soundray> Maikshit, there is a bit of a dated thread about your type of problem on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-797.html
[10:17] <worldmaster0> i'm outta here
[10:17] <soundray> Maikshit, but I think the principle described there still applies.
[10:18] <DShepherd> helo212: http://www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/ <-- download the debian package from here
[10:18] <DShepherd> helo212: the type 'dpkg -i skype**.deb. That should install skype for you
[10:19] <helo212> okay thanks
[10:19] <adjacent> does ubuntu breezy not use /etc/DIR_COLORS?
[10:19] <fabiob> Someone with nautilus-cd-burner and a DVD burner here?
[10:19] <miket_> how can i delete programs from upper panel if programm is already deinstalled?????
[10:20] <DShepherd> helo212: camserv is in the packages so you can 'sudo aptitude install camserv'
[10:20] <ladyisabel77> is there any italian?
[10:20] <soundray> !it
[10:20] <Firen> i have ntfs partition mounted on /media/hda6 and when i want to change permissions to that directory i get: chmod: changing permissions of `hda6': Read-only file system. Why :/
[10:20] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:21] <sean_> I just installed Ubuntu, and I have my windows partitions on the desktop, but it says that I don't have permission. I've tried several different ways to login as administratot, but I'm  a noob, so I can't seem to do it. How can I read these drives?
[10:21] <ladyisabel77> #ubuntu-it
[10:21] <Fujitsu> Firen: I was telling people about this same problem about 10 hours ago. Wait a sec.
[10:21] <Firen> ok
[10:21] <mp3guy> in disk-admin my DVD-RW drive doesn't have the 'write dvd' box checked, is there a way to change this?
[10:21] <soundray> ladyisabel77, type /join #ubuntu-it
[10:21] <trappist> Firen: no ntfs write support in linux.  it exists but it's extremely dangerious
[10:21] <rob_p> fabiob:  I've got both.  What's up?
[10:22] <miket_> how can i delete programs from upper panel if programm is already deinstalled?????
[10:22] <funktown> miket_: did you try "killall gnome-panel" ?
[10:22] <Fujitsu> Firen, sean_: You need to add umask=0222 to the options in fstab.
[10:23] <Firen> ok checking
[10:23] <trappist> Fujitsu: no good with ntfs
[10:23] <miket_> killall???
[10:23] <Zedugh> miket_: try right click on icon, then "remove from panel"
[10:23] <fabiob> rob_p, can you insert a DVD-R with something on it, right click and select "Copy disc"? I think I've found a big bug, but it seems strange nobody reported it
[10:23] <Fujitsu> What do you mean, trappist?
[10:23] <bamboozle> hi. new pc with usb keyboard and serial ata hd. can anyone help?
[10:23] <trappist> Fujitsu: the ntfs write support in linux is primitive and dangerous
[10:23] <miket_> there is no "remove from panel"
[10:23] <DShepherd> miket_: use smeg
[10:24] <soundray> bamboozle, what's the trouble?
[10:24] <Fujitsu> 0222 gives r-xr-xr-x!
[10:24] <Firen> i dont need write support i just want have access to that directory thru normal user account
[10:24] <sean_> I tried getting into fstab on someone elses advice, & that is also set to read only. Like I said, I need to know how to log in as admin
[10:24] <theD3viL> breezy backports exist ?
[10:24] <sean_> I think
[10:24] <DShepherd> miket_: or applications -> system tools -> Applications menu editor
[10:24] <Fujitsu> sean_: sudo then the command will do it.
[10:25] <Fujitsu> !sudo
[10:25] <ubotu> I heard sudo is the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:25] <Maikshit> Fujitsu
[10:25] <Fujitsu> Yes Maikshit?
[10:25] <rob_p> fabiob:  What happens?
[10:25] <Maikshit> If i've external USB HD
[10:25] <bamboozle> soundray: i cant get breezy to see the serial ata hd. is there a trick? a boot instruction maybe?
[10:25] <fabiob> rob_p, it miscalculates the DVD size and it doesn't work. :)
[10:25] <Maikshit> i can copy the iso image and boot it
[10:25] <Maikshit> and boot it
[10:25] <Maikshit> ?
[10:25] <funktown> bamboozle.. add it to fstab?
[10:25] <Maikshit> i copy CD iso image to external HD
[10:25] <Fujitsu> Maikshit, I don't quite know... YOu can't just copy the ISO.
[10:25] <miket_> if i use smeg i can only make it invisible and "delete is grey"
[10:26] <Maikshit> :(
[10:26] <dell500> bamboozle:  you know the what the path to the dev is?
[10:26] <Fujitsu> YOu would need to do some nasty extraction work. Let me have a look at the layout of the CD.
[10:26] <bamboozle> funktown: i havent been able to install breezy on it
[10:26] <blue-frog> sean_, ntfs read only from linux whoever u use..
[10:26] <soundray> bamboozle, have you installed anything at all yet?
[10:26] <funktown> bamboozle: ah.. i should pay attention =P
[10:27] <fabiob> rob_p, do you confirm it?
[10:27] <bamboozle> soundray,l500: i now have mandriva on the machine. the disk is /dev/sda
[10:27] <Fujitsu> sean_: Remember that you can't write to NTFS, but you _should_ be able to read.
[10:27] <soundray> bamboozle, can you find out the name of the module that Mandriva loads to support ATA?
[10:27] <rob_p> fabiob:  I'm testing with a DVD+R...
[10:28] <theD3viL> Somebody uses backports brezzy ? Is it safe?
[10:28] <Nelo> I have a Presario R3000 laptop, Suspend and hibiernate work; however, when re-starting xwindows does not load, any ideas how to address this?
[10:28] <bamboozle> soundray: i suppose i could
[10:28] <fabiob> rob_p, it should trigger the bug as well
[10:28] <fabiob> rob_p, thanks!
[10:28] <soundray> Nelo, switch to console with Alt-F1, then switch back after wakeup. Helps sometimes.
[10:29] <Zedugh> Maikshit: maybe you could install sbm (smart boot manager) on the usb hd, and use sbm to boot the copied ISO image
[10:29] <Nelo> soundray thanks..
[10:29] <pawdro> hi, how can make man translated to my language? by default
[10:29] <soundray> bamboozle, you don't feel like booting Mandriva anymore?
[10:29] <anavim> how do I make the slit appear in fluxbox?
[10:29] <bsharitt> Does Banshee crash on any one else when an iPod is mounted?
[10:29] <funktown> anavim.. /join #fluxbox
[10:29] <DShepherd> soundray: you mean Ctrl+Alt+f1?
[10:29] <soundray> Nelo, if it works, you can automate it afterwards.
[10:30] <Maikshit> Zedugh my Bios support boot from USB
[10:30] <soundray> DShepherd, Nelo, yes I do. sorry...
[10:30] <Zedugh> Maikshit: maybe you could install sbm (smart boot manager) on a floppy, then use sbm to boot ISO copied to usb hd
[10:30] <Maikshit> but i don't know how y can boot install cdrom if i don't have cdrom
[10:30] <Nelo> ok. got it... i will  try this thanks...
[10:30] <rob_p> fabiob:  It's hard to reproduce here since I only have 1 drive (laptop).  As soon as I try to select copy disk, it immediately gives me, "No media available" and, "There doesn't seem to be any media in the selected drive."
[10:30] <Maikshit> ok
[10:30] <Maikshit> i try it
[10:30] <paines> hi
[10:30] <bamboozle> soundray: i never liked mandriva or mandrake. i just used this just to be able to access the internet.
[10:30] <rob_p> fabiob:  ... and the drive seems to unmount...
[10:30] <mwe> anavim: iirc the slit is invisible. The slit applications will show their icons when you run them
[10:31] <Zedugh> Maikshit: yes but you need a boot record to boot, copying the ISO will not give you a boot record
[10:31] <helo212> when i install a package where will it appear it at?
[10:31] <paines> anyone have experince with extern firewire hd's ? can't get it working. with usb it works, but i would like it with firewire.
[10:31] <fabiob> rob_p, me too! it's a bug because it calculates the media size as zero -> no media available
[10:31] <Maikshit> ok
[10:31] <Maikshit> Zedug i Create a iso image from CD install
[10:31] <fabiob> rob_p, the unmount is normal btw
[10:31] <Maikshit> i put it on external HD USB
[10:31] <Maikshit> install on Laptop Smart bootmanager
[10:31] <soundray> bamboozle, any other way to work out what SATA chipset you are using?
[10:32] <Maikshit> boot the HD
[10:32] <Maikshit> launch iso image
[10:32] <cafuego> Maikshit: Put syslinux on that usb hdd, boot the iso, done.
[10:32] <Maikshit> ?
[10:32] <DShepherd> fabiob: you meant umount?
[10:32] <Maikshit> ok?
[10:32] <anavim> mwe, thx, your answer was more meaningful than the one I got on fluxbox
[10:32] <fabiob> rob_p, thank you! I just cooked up a patch. :)
[10:32] <helo212> DShepherd:Where will it install the programs at?
[10:32] <blue-frog> paines, firewire needs user to be in disk group
[10:32] <fabiob> It seems that nobody use copy disc on DVDs ;)
[10:32] <Maikshit> cafuego where i found syslinux?
[10:32] <DShepherd> helo212: where will what install the programs at?
[10:32] <babag> been trying unsuccessfully to get help with problem of non functioning keyboaard/mouse.
[10:32] <soundray> bamboozle, eg. google for the motherboard type?
[10:33] <babag> no responses.
[10:33] <cafuego> Maikshit: google
[10:33] <helo212> those commands you told me
[10:33] <Zedugh> Maikshit, boot sbm from where ever you installed it, yes, syslinux should work also
[10:33] <rob_p> fabiob:  Apparently not too often anyway. :)
[10:33] <idiot> How can I mount a Samba partition from Windows in Linux if they have no username or password on the other PC
[10:33] <babag> tried the forum but they wanted registration and personal info dislosed.
[10:33] <mwe> anavim: you can choose the placement of the slit somewhere in the menu, though
[10:33] <paines> blue-frog, okay, i will check that
[10:33] <fabiob> DShepherd, unmount the action, not the command :)
[10:33] <Fujitsu> idiot: You can't.
[10:33] <babag> back to other distros.
[10:33] <idiot> Fujitsu, why not?
[10:33] <DShepherd> fabiob: kool
[10:34] <bamboozle> soundray: i know that the pc has an intel 82801gr/gh sata ahci controller and an intel 82801gb ultra ata storage controller-27df. does this help you?
[10:34] <Fujitsu> idiot: Windows will not let you in without authenticating!
[10:34] <DShepherd> helo212: skype and camserv?
[10:34] <blue-frog> idiot, what do u call the other pc, win or nux?
[10:34] <idiot> other pc = win
[10:34] <idiot> this pc = lin
[10:34] <babag> too bad. ubuntu looks very nice.
[10:34] <idiot> i want to mount win pc in lin
[10:35] <soundray> bamboozle, tried feeding these names into google?
[10:35] <anavim> mwe, I got it... I found and ran a dockapp and now I see it
[10:35] <blue-frog> idiot, as long as u give an existing user from samba, it 'll be fine, or u can set security=share to have no authentication
[10:35] <topyli> idiot: share some directories on the windows box, mount the shares on linux with samba
[10:35] <bamboozle> soundray: yeap. with no luck.
[10:35] <idiot> Thats what I am wondering how to do.
[10:35] <idiot> I don't know how to mount them
[10:35] <helo212> yes
[10:35] <mediafly> can I clone a harddisk (80 GB) to a smaller HD (60 GB)? On the source HD 25GB are still free, thus there is enough space on the destination disc. If so, what command should I use?
[10:36] <topyli> idiot: are the machines networked ok otherwise?
[10:36] <idiot> yy
[10:36] <idiot> yea*
[10:36] <DShepherd> helo212: I think they should be under /usr/share <-- not sure though
[10:36] <topyli> idiot: i don't really know much about windows networking, i've always had a linux server and a windows client
[10:37] <DShepherd> mediafly: the dd command is great
[10:37] <topyli> idiot: anyway, install samba on ubuntu and you should be able to browse the windows shares with nautilus
[10:37] <anavim> is there a dockapp which displays battery charge?
[10:37] <mediafly> DShepherd, do you know the exact command with its parameters?
[10:37] <idiot> I don't use nautilus
[10:37] <DShepherd> mediafly: yes
[10:37] <idiot> I want to do it from terminal
[10:38] <mediafly> DShepherd, ;) Would you tell me?
[10:38] <DShepherd> mediafly: well I think so
[10:38] <lisette> anavim, battery monitor
[10:38] <gnomefreak> lol DShepherd
[10:38] <soundray> bamboozle, my strategy here would be to find out what module Mandriva loads, then to see if that module is in the stock Ubuntu kernel.
[10:38] <sean_> is there a way to log into the gui as SU?
[10:38] <B_166-ER-X> i start ktorrent, and it doesnt show up, and if i try 'ktorrent' by terminal, it says 'ktorrent is already running'     can someone point me or .. ?
[10:38] <topyli> idiot: then you could mount the shares from fstab and treat them like any directory
[10:38] <lisette> su startx
[10:38] <blue-frog> idiot, xp home or pro?
[10:38] <DShepherd> mediafly: I rob you of the fun of you figuring it out all by yourself
[10:38] <gnomefreak> sean_, ubuntu doesnt use su
[10:38] <DShepherd> mediafly: :-D
[10:38] <Zedugh> helo212: dpkg -L <package-name> will list all files installed by (an installed) package
[10:38] <helo212> is there an app on ubuntu that will allow me to burn an iso?
[10:38] <idiot> pro
[10:38] <mediafly> DShepherd, ;)
[10:38] <soundray> bamboozle, if yes, it's a matter of chanting the right incantation during the installer boot.
[10:39] <mediafly> DShepherd, what you expect? Give me the command parameters?
[10:39] <blue-frog> idiot, ok then u can access your windows by doing...
[10:39] <theCore> mediafly: boot with the LiveCD, then enter the command 'dd if=/dev/[xxx]  of=/dev/[yyy] '
[10:39] <sean_> I'm trying to make it so I can edit fstab, but as Linux is new to me (Primary Win2k user here) I can't seem to get it.... God, I feel dumb
[10:39] <blue-frog> idiot, in nautilus   smb://windows_IP/c$
[10:39] <sean_> :((
[10:39] <idiot> Yes I do not use Nautilus.
[10:39] <DShepherd> mediafly: dd=if<what do you inputing> of=<the file you want to save it to>.iso
[10:39] <topyli> blue-frog: hes on the console
[10:39] <gnomefreak> helo212,  gnomebaker or k3b depending on the desktop your working on
[10:39] <idiot> I want to do it through console
[10:39] <daved-> is there any way to make vlc use gtk or something not quite as fugly as wxwindows?
[10:39] <Fujitsu> idiot: mount -t smbfs -o username=<username> //<server>/<share> /mnt/<mountpoint>
[10:40] <soundray> bamboozle, if not, try installing to any old IDE PATA disk, try if SATA works with the 2.6.15 kernel, and if it does, copy the installation with the working kernel over to the SATA drive.
[10:40] <B_166-ER-X> i start ktorrent, and it doesnt show up, and if i try 'ktorrent' by terminal, it says 'ktorrent is already running'     can someone point me or .. ?
[10:40] <Fujitsu> Sorry, add sudo to the front of that.
[10:40] <DShepherd> mediafly: be carefull now... if you mix up stuff you can really mess up your system
[10:40] <blue-frog> idiot, then smbclient //IP/C$ -Uadministrator
[10:40] <theCore> mediafly: that's true
[10:40] <DShepherd> mediafly: man dd
[10:41] <topyli> idiot: and create the mount point before trying to mount something in it
[10:41] <LOQUiLLO_> hehehehehehe
[10:41] <theCore> mediafly: try with floppy at first
[10:41] <soundray> mediafly, before you start with dd, shrink your existing partitions until everything fits into 59GB and you have 21 GB free space at the end.
[10:41] <LOQUiLLO_> idiot's festival
[10:42] <topyli> this is terrible. now the vlc build wanted me to install mozilla and dev packages
[10:42] <DShepherd> soundray: why should he do that
[10:42] <DShepherd> ?
[10:42] <blue-frog> idiot,  to mount    mount -t smbfs //IP/c$ /mnt/test -o username=login_Windows
[10:42] <ardchoille> I am damned impressed with Ubuntu 5.10. I have spent an entire 24 hours trying to break it and I can't. I did manage to mess up a package, but that was due to IUS and not Ubuntu;s fault.
[10:42] <ardchoille> Any Ubuntu devs here?
[10:42] <bamboozle> soundray: thanks. ill look into it. goodnight. :)
[10:42] <blue-frog> idiot, for that u need smbfs installed
[10:42] <idiot> k
[10:43] <bamboozle> bye, ppl
[10:43] <soundray> DShepherd, to make sure that dd doesn't try to write needed data past the end of the target disk.
[10:43] <DShepherd> soundray: ok
[10:43] <topyli> ardchoille: they are "around" :) mostly on #ubuntu-devel though
[10:43] <ardchoille> topyli: thank
[10:43] <ardchoille> s
[10:44] <Maikshit> Fujitsu
[10:44] <Maikshit> how i can create iso image from Cdrom Ubuntu install on mac
[10:44] <Maikshit> ?
[10:44] <mp3guy> skype is insanely oversized in gnome, is there anyway to fix this?
[10:45] <DShepherd> soundray: ok
[10:45] <DShepherd> mp3guy: what's your resolution at?
[10:45] <ardchoille> How do I install Opera on 5.10?
[10:46] <gnomefreak> ardchoille, hold on ill get you something to look at for that
[10:46] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: thanks
[10:46] <ardchoille> There is an entry for opera in the repos but it won't let me install it
[10:47] <mp3guy> 1280*1024 DShepherd
[10:47] <topyli> !opera
[10:47] <ubotu> Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:47] <DShepherd> mp3guy: oh, well I dont know then
[10:47] <Maikshit> how i can create iso image from Cdrom Ubuntu install on mac
[10:48] <DShepherd> Maikshit: you can use dd :)
[10:48] <amanda> hey i am trying to mount my creative zen xtra
[10:48] <amanda> and it wont let me
[10:48] <Zedugh> Maikshit: what exactly do you mean by this? what are you trying to do?
[10:48] <Maikshit> dd /???  to ???
[10:48] <gnomefreak> ardchoille,  go here and try the one where it says download it and change the name of package to opera.deb youll see it
[10:48] <amanda> anyone?
[10:49] <topyli> Maikshit: something like dd /dev/hdc > my-iso.iso
[10:49] <DShepherd> Maikshit: dd if=/dev/<cd device> if=my.iso
[10:49] <DShepherd> no
[10:49] <topyli> yes
[10:49] <Maikshit> topyli, on Mac os what is my device
[10:49] <DShepherd> Maikshit: dd if=/dev/<cd device> of=my.iso
[10:49] <trappist> dd if=/dev/hdc of=ubuntu.iso
[10:49] <Maikshit> i know..
[10:49] <Maikshit> but in mac
[10:49] <Maikshit> ?
[10:49] <amanda> anyone help me
[10:49] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: go where?
[10:49] <gnomefreak> oops
[10:49] <gnomefreak> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=364326
[10:50] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: hehe
[10:50] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: Thanks :)
[10:50] <amanda> can some one help me mount a creative zen xtra?
[10:50] <topyli> ardchoille: just pay attention to ubotu here
[10:50] <topyli> !opera
[10:50] <ubotu> Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:50] <Zedugh> Maikshit, you use mkisofs to create an iso image to burn to cd, but your ppc binaries (on mac) won't work on an x86 box
[10:50] <amanda> pls
[10:50] <Zedugh> amanda, sorry i don't know
[10:50] <gnomefreak> didnt know bot knew opera :(
[10:50] <amanda> damn it
[10:51] <ardchoille> topyli: is ubotu an infobot?
[10:51] <topyli> gnomefreak: it's corrupted by now, it seems
[10:51] <topyli> ardchoille: yes
[10:51] <ardchoille> awesome!
[10:51] <topyli> !ubotu
[10:51] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[10:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu knows too much sometimes :(
[10:51] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Are you smoking crack?
[10:51] <gnomefreak> yes!!!!!!!!!!! stop asking me :(
[10:52] <topyli> heh
[10:52] <mwe> haha
[10:52] <topyli> !lart gnomefreak
[10:53] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:53] <c0rrupt> hello im connected to my linux pc through putty over ssh. there is an app that i need to run for a few days in the backround, but i cant keep my putty terminal open. how can i detatch the process from my terminal so i can close putty without closing the process?
[10:53] <zblach> hi. quick question. is there a linux-friendly program for creating/testing sheet music?
[10:53] <topyli> c0rrupt: yes! use screen. man screen
[10:53] <c0rrupt> i know screen, just dont know the command :-P
[10:54] <topyli> c0rrupt: to detatch?
[10:54] <c0rrupt> yea
[10:54] <juliuska> can someome help me "all my system sounds stop working" (if you speak spanish: todos los sonidos del sistema han dejado de funcionar)
[10:54] <c0rrupt> so i can run
[10:54] <c0rrupt> command &
[10:54] <gnomefreak> !es
[10:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:54] <c0rrupt> 'detatch command'
[10:54] <topyli> c0rrupt: i never remember either. just look at the help you get with ^A ?
[10:54] <c0rrupt> then i can close putty
[10:54] <juliuska> sorry
[10:54] <juliuska> thanks
[10:55] <topyli> c0rrupt: no. detatch your screen session so the shell will be left there for you to reconnect at any time
[10:55] <zblach> something like tabledit, but ...y'know. linux friendly
[10:55] <c0rrupt> yea
[10:55] <c0rrupt> thats what i meant
[10:55] <c0rrupt> i just need to find the command :-)
[10:56] <topyli> c0rrupt: "screen" :)
[10:56] <c0rrupt> i know, but specifically
[10:56] <trappist> c0rrupt: screen
[10:56] <c0rrupt> or is it 'just'
[10:56] <topyli> c0rrupt: then you run a new shell insilde screen, and that screen is detatchable
[10:56] <c0rrupt> scren ;xx;x;x;x;
[10:56] <gnomefreak> :x
[10:57] <c0rrupt> how do i run a new shell inside screen, and how do i detach
[10:57] <topyli> c0rrupt: it's hard to explain. read the screen man page
[10:57] <trappist> c0rrupt: run screen.  run your command with or without the &... detach with ctrl-a d
[10:57] <c0rrupt> ohh isee
[10:57] <trappist> reattach with screen -x
[10:57] <topyli> trappist: oh i thought it couldn't be explained :)
[10:58] <c0rrupt> cool
[10:58] <c0rrupt> :-)
[10:58] <frenetik> w00t, firefox 1.5 is out
[10:58] <c0rrupt> yay
[10:58] <c0rrupt> worked
[10:58] <gnomefreak> frenetik, its done in beta?
[10:59] <zblach> nothing?
[10:59] <topyli> c0rrupt: good way to keep irc channels open. just run screen on your favorite universitie's server :)
[10:59] <trappist> c0rrupt: this is how my irc client has been running for like a year, I never disconnect, and I can reattach from work or home or wherever
[10:59] <frenetik> nope, final: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/20564
[10:59] <c0rrupt> i was wondering how to do exactly that
[10:59] <anavim> !lart self
[10:59] <anavim> heh
[10:59] <anavim> !botsnack
[11:00] <ubotu> :)
[11:00] <trappist> c0rrupt: I keep email in my second screen (ctrl-a c to make a new one), shells in other screens etc.
[11:00] <topyli> c0rrupt: yeah, it's the most common of GNU screen i guess. eternal irssi sessions on university servers
[11:00] <topyli> most common use i mean
[11:01] <topyli> then we have like irc logs that need most of our disk quota
[11:01] <Firen> what is the name of winamp-look mp3 player for linux?
[11:02] <topyli> Firen: xmms i guess
[11:02] <NewWithoutClue> xmms?
[11:02] <topyli> eww
[11:02] <gnomefreak> whoever said FF1.5 was out its not out yet its still in beta form
[11:02] <gnomefreak> its RC3
[11:03] <spikebike> it's out
[11:03] <Firen> topyli: you're right thx
[11:03] <frenetik> It's out: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/29/1939206&tid=154
[11:03] <spikebike> I just downloaded it, it's not rc3
[11:03] <gnomefreak> spikebike, its not out out= released its not final
[11:03] <spikebike> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-1.5.tar.gz
[11:03] <spikebike> looks final to me
[11:03] <gnomefreak> http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
[11:03] <gnomefreak> official mozilla site says its rc3
[11:04] <cafuego> Yes, the about box says "1.5" though.
[11:04] <anavim> gnomefreak, firefox has some misleading upgrade messages that don't mention rc3
[11:04] <frenetik> So what is this then? http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5/
[11:04] <gnomefreak> Try Firefox 1.5 RC 3: Download Here
[11:04] <DShepherd> anavim: yup
[11:05] <gnomefreak> free download at top is still 1.0.7
[11:05] <cafuego> Yes, latest stable. 1.0.7
[11:05] <gnomefreak> when it is released as final ubuntu will have it
[11:05] <DShepherd> frenetik: its a release candidate.. I guess
[11:05] <cafuego> gnomefreak: No, breezy will not.
[11:05] <DShepherd> cafuego: why not?
[11:05] <gnomefreak> dapper will
[11:06] <bur[n] er> has anyone tried to compile rhythmbox 0.9.2 yet?  I get libgpod errors, but libgpod doesn't have a .deb :\
[11:06] <DShepherd> cafuego: :(
[11:06] <gnomefreak> breezy has been frozen but still might add it
[11:06] <cafuego> DShepherd: Because it's a major upgrade, which don't go into stable reelases.
[11:06] <frenetik> Guys, look at the folders under ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/
[11:06] <cafuego> it will probbaly ed up in breezy-backports
[11:06] <frenetik> you can see rc1 rc2 rc3 and 1.5
[11:06] <DShepherd> cafuego: bummer.. so I i want it I guess compile compile for me
[11:06] <topyli> DShepherd: stable versions of ubuntu don't upgrade versions just because they have released upstream. we get new stuff every 6 months
[11:06] <DShepherd> topyli: ok I hear you guys
[11:07] <ardchoille> topyli: Thanks for the wiki link.
[11:07] <cafuego> DShepherd: if you feel it's extremely necessary.
[11:07] <ardchoille> ubotu: Thanks :)
[11:07] <ubotu> ardchoille: graag gedaan
[11:07] <sdji3> hello anyonone know how can i transformer a .wmv to a .vcd ????
[11:07] <bluefoxicy> tee, http://live.gnome.org/ArbitraryLayoutWidget
[11:07] <DShepherd> cafuego: topyli I am not used to this.. it feels weird. I guess backports for me tehn
[11:07] <DShepherd> then*
[11:07] <ardchoille> hehe, I love a bot with manners
[11:08] <cafuego> !goo'boy
[11:08] <ubotu> Aww, thanks dad.
[11:08] <MickMcMack> Why hallo thar.
[11:08] <topyli> DShepherd: new versions may show up in backports, yes. i sometimes build new stuff from dapper source packages for myself too, when i think it is necessary (or i just want to)
[11:08] <gnomefreak> i dont see why 1.5 wouldnt be avilable through backports
[11:08] <agtnz> bur[n] er: Have you seen http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96456 ? Talks about libgpod probs. I'm using amarok, so haven't experimented
[11:08] <MickMcMack> lsmod shows my audio module is loaded, alsamixer is unmuted - but I still get no sound, what should I try next?
[11:08] <DShepherd> topyli: ok
[11:08] <anavim> DShepherd, I'm running firefox 1.0.7 and 1.5 just fine
[11:08] <cafuego> gnomefreak: The developers might have better things to do.
[11:08] <sdji3> hello anyonone know how can i transformer a .wmv to a .vcd ????
[11:09] <DShepherd> anavim: me to but 1.5 is not installed for me
[11:09] <bur[n] er> agtnz: i'm a die hard amarok user, but I really want to like the gtk based rhythmbox ;)
[11:09] <DShepherd> too*
[11:09] <bur[n] er> agtnz: and thanks for the link
[11:09] <anavim> DShepherd, have you looked at checkinstall?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> cafuego, from my understanding the things we get from backports are from the next testing version
[11:10] <ardchoille> Which language is "graag gedaan" ?
[11:10] <DShepherd> anavim: no, never heard of it
[11:10] <cafuego> gnomefreak: yes, but someone still needs to spend time and effort rcompiling it with the correct libs.
[11:10] <topyli> DShepherd: hear about it soon :)
[11:10] <ardchoille> Northern Europe?
[11:10] <anavim> DShepherd, it converts installers into .deb packages
[11:10] <cafuego> ardchoille: it's dutch.
[11:10] <ardchoille> cafuego: ah, thanks
[11:10] <sdji3>
[11:10] <sdji3> hello anyonone know how can i transformer a .wmv to a .vcd ????
[11:10] <anavim> DShepherd, if you're going to install a package from source or .sh, it's safer
[11:10] <DShepherd> anavim: ok.. aptitude install??
[11:11] <cafuego> sdji3: via transcode. You need to creae an VCD compliant MPEG video.
[11:11] <topyli> DShepherd: basically, you get a source tarball, build it, and make it into a .deb before installing. so apt will know what you've done
[11:11] <gnomefreak> cafuego, isnt ubuntus releases full of newest stable sometimes not so stable releases of programs?
[11:11] <johnsie2k> !java
[11:11] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:11] <DShepherd> topyli: sounds like magic :)
[11:11] <anavim> DShepherd, no, you would run checkinstall and it creates a .deb file.  If you have to uninstall, you use the .deb to uninstlall and reinstall with dpkg
[11:11] <tyler_> hi
[11:11] <oxez> Is it risky to install FF 1.5 from the mozilla installer?
[11:11] <cafuego> gnomefreak: Not normally, no.
[11:11] <topyli> DShepherd: good technology often does :)
[11:11] <sdji3> cafuego can you explain me  a little more clear please :D
[11:12] <tyler_> I was attempting to install FF1.5 using a guide and some how (even though its like 2 steps) FF doesn't work at all now =\
[11:12] <tyler_> Apparently I'm not the only one with this problem :)
[11:12] <anavim> DShepherd, it does version tracking from the .deb it created
[11:12] <sdji3> cafuego can you explain me  a little more clear please :D
[11:13] <ubuntu> z
[11:13] <ardchoille> bbiab
[11:13] <blue-frog> sdji3, wait for dapper for an upgraded firefox
[11:13] <sdji3> i dont understand you
[11:13] <sdji3> i dont speak good english
[11:13] <Zedugh> !find transcode
[11:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'transcode' (3 shown): gtranscode ;; transcode ;; transcode-doc.
[11:13] <sdji3> i mean i musto wait to a newer firefox version?
[11:13] <DRAGON_Ultra> later all nite
[11:13] <cafuego> install 'transcode' and check /usr/share/doc/transcode
[11:13] <topyli> sdji3: wait for the next ubuntu version
[11:14] <blue-frog> sdji3, dapper = next ubuntu release
[11:14] <DShepherd> anavim: pretty neat!!
[11:14] <cafuego> blue-frog: Stop confusing sdji3, he didn't ask about firefox at all.
[11:14] <sdji3> blue-frog,  when will be a new version ?
[11:14] <blue-frog> oh sry
[11:14] <mwe> tyler_: I just unzipped firefox to /opt and ran the binary and it worked though I got a chrome registration error the first time I ran it
[11:14] <blue-frog> looked like to me it was firefox
[11:14] <topyli> DShepherd: to make your life on debian easier, google for "checkinstall" and "wajig" :)
[11:14] <sdji3> cauedo i dont understrand how make the transcoder
[11:15] <topyli> will be real easy
[11:15] <Zukero> blue-frog , topyli , wait for a new distro version to have new ff version ? wtf ???
[11:15] <tyler_> Hey guys sorry to interrupt you... But what would the first step be to re-installing FF1.5?  I tried using a guide and now neither versions work.  I uninstalled 1.5 completely, whereshould I start?
[11:15] <quacker> sdji3, 06.04
[11:15] <topyli> Zukero: to have supported ubuntu packages, yes
[11:15] <quacker> as per the Ubuntu website release schedule (read it!) every six months
[11:15] <topyli> Zukero: you can always get it from mozilla.org, or build your own packages
[11:15] <DShepherd> topyli: will do. this is very nice
[11:15] <sdji3> quacker, 5 months its to much to wait
[11:15] <blue-frog> Zukero, nice language btw...
[11:16] <Zukero> well
[11:16] <mwe> tyler_: I just downloaded the tarball from mozilla.org/products/firefox and unzipped it to /opt
[11:16] <Zukero> i think it's weird since i had no major problems uprgrading ff1.0 to 1.1 under breezy
[11:16] <gnomefreak> cafuego, FF1.5 is in dapper
[11:16] <topyli> i never knew our firefoxes sucked that much
[11:16] <topyli> we suddenly need 1.5
[11:16] <MickMcMack> Can I add my Debian package repos to my Ubuntu apt/sources.list ?
[11:16] <tyler_> mwe, that's exactly what I did.
[11:16] <topyli> MickMcMack: no
[11:16] <mwe> tyler_: did rm -rf /home/me/.mozilla to be safe too
[11:17] <DShepherd> topyli  anavim: dont stop now.. keep telling me the good stuff :)
[11:17] <tyler_> mwe, hmm, let me re-install it and try to rm that as well.
[11:17] <oxez> sorry for p/j, window detached from xchat
[11:17] <tyler_> mwe, hold.
[11:17] <MickMcMack> topyli, damn. :(
[11:17] <mwe> tyler_: and what happens when you type /opt/firefox/firefox in a console?
[11:17] <anavim> DShepherd, that's about it for me :)
[11:17] <mwe> tyler_: back up your bookmarks first
[11:17] <topyli> MickMcMack: you can keep the source repos, but the binaries are not going to work
[11:17] <DShepherd> anavim: are you sure.. look a little bit deeper
[11:18] <topyli> MickMcMack: ubuntu universe is about the same as sid anyway
[11:18] <MickMcMack> topyli, so is there a Ubuntu java-package, for building the Sun bin into a deb?
[11:18] <topyli> MickMcMack: yes
[11:18] <quacker>                                                                                /me smells ozone coming from the general direction of his switch...
[11:18] <quacker> this cannot be good
[11:18] <anavim> DShepherd, I'm still waiting for the tool to diff all files changed on my system when I need to figure out what config files have changed  :)
[11:19] <MickMcMack> topyli, what is it called - apt-cache search doesn't show it. :s
[11:19] <blue-frog> anavim, use diff  ....
[11:19] <tyler_> mwe, ok, I reinstalled and then rm /home/me/.mozilla
[11:19] <DShepherd> anavim: sweet!!
[11:19] <topyli> MickMcMack: fresh install? your sources.list will have only "main" and "restricted" enabled by default. uncomment "universe" and "multiverse"
[11:19] <MickMcMack> Aha!
[11:20] <mwe> tyler_: yes and?
[11:20] <mwe> tyler_: what happens when you type /opt/firefox/firefox in a console?
[11:20] <tyler_> mwe, I attempted to do /opt/firefox/firefox and get the following error:
[11:20] <ordinary> Can someone help me?    I need it to.
[11:20] <quacker> hmmm... it's coming from the 21" Trinitron tube... ewww
[11:20] <tyler_> mwe, "Firefox could not install this item because of a failure in Chrome Registration.  Please contact the author about this problem."
[11:20] <quacker> ordinary are you usign ndiswrapper?
[11:21] <mwe> tyler_: try again I got that the first time only as well
[11:21] <MickMcMack> Awesome, thankyou muchly topyli. :)
[11:21] <tyler_> mwe, It goes down the list attempting to install (or something like that), it shows lots of errors, then ends with
[11:21] <ordinary> I did last time, before I updated it and it stopped letting modprobe do its JOB.
[11:21] <ordinary> And I have ndiswrapper now, but no drivers...
[11:21] <MickMcMack> Although, topyli - java-package is still not there. >_<
[11:21] <tyler_> mwe, firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  8515 Aborted                 "$prog" ${1+"$@"
[11:22] <topyli> MickMcMack: you have the same selection of packages basically that you have on sid. multiverse has some illegeal non-us terrorist stuff too
[11:22] <mwe> tyler_: and you did rm -rf .mozilla in your home dir (after backing up the bookmarks) ?
[11:22] <ordinary> So then, quacker, I decided it was time to format the hard drive...
[11:22] <ordinary> Because I got a new 5.10 package ofCDs
[11:22] <topyli> MickMcMack: java-package is in multiverse
[11:23] <tyler_> mwe, i didn't backup any bookmarks beacuse I had none.
[11:23] <ordinary> It looks like
[11:23] <MickMcMack> Aha, ok.
[11:23] <tyler_> mwe, but I did rm -rf .mozilla
[11:23] <mwe> tyler_: hmm. I heard that some people had to run it once as root before it worked. try sudo /opt/firefox/firefox
[11:23] <ordinary> Three people, mocking me, laughing at my ineptness at using a computer, and mocking my poor physical condition, it's as if I'm five inches tall and they're dancing around me, laughing...
[11:24] <tyler_> mwe, tried that.
[11:24] <mwe> tyler_: sorry, I'm out of ideas then
[11:25] <mwe> tyler_: it worked for me
[11:25] <tyler_> mwe, it gives tons of errors, they all look like: (firefox-bin:8601): Gdk-WARNING **: Error converting from UTF-8 to STRING: Conversion from character set 'UTF-8' to 'ISO-8859-1' is not supported
[11:25] <tyler_> mwe, Thanks for your help.
[11:25] <trappist> tyler_: that's just a warning.  it's not fatal.
[11:25] <daemos> hey someone help me with this network issue:
[11:25] <daemos> my university uses Novell services
[11:25] <tyler_> trappist, i think ive done everything right... I insatlled it to the right directory and everything.  What would I do next?
[11:26] <mwe> tyler_: however good ole google might help
[11:26] <paulproteus> daemos: Go on.
[11:26] <MickMcMack> " dpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)
[11:26] <MickMcMack>  " <<< topyli I get lots of these warnings when jpkg-making the deb. :(
[11:26] <daemos> including a login and the mounting of virtual drives
[11:26] <daemos> i have ncpmount installed
[11:26] <tyler_> mwe, firefox doesn't work.
[11:26] <daemos> but cant determine the syntax for to login
[11:26] <paulproteus> daemos: Oh, hmm.
[11:26] <tyler_> trappist, to execute program do I just access it under applications tab like before?
[11:26] <paulproteus> That I've never used before, so i can't help you.
[11:26] <daemos> so far I have: ncpmount /MAKO -U daemos -P blah
[11:26] <paulproteus> Does http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_network/x-087-2-ipx.ncpfs.client.html help?
[11:26] <daemos> but we login through a tree called LC-TREE
[11:26] <paulproteus> (Hint: I googled ncpmount)
[11:27] <daemos> ive already edited fstab and whatnot
[11:27] <daemos> but it cant find the server
[11:27] <daemos> on my windoze box these are the settings :
[11:27] <daemos> Tree: lc-tree
[11:27] <daemos> Context: Students.Putney.Landmark
[11:27] <daemos> Server: admin.landmark.edu
[11:28] <daemos> anyone havea possible command line solution? or even better a GUI solution that I can run from Gnome!
[11:28] <daemos> :)
[11:28] <zblach> chown -R us ./base
[11:28] <tyler_> I guess I'll give up on firefox for now.  On the other hand: Does anyone know how to install nVidia drivers? It said I had to run from root.. but when I sudo I still get an error... Any ideas?
[11:28] <daemos> this has been plaguing me for weeks
[11:28] <HrdwrBoB> !nvidia
[11:28] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:28] <infamus> Anyone know of a better GNOME based video player than totem?
[11:29] <tyler_> ubotu, My firefox is broken.. heh
[11:29] <ubotu> tyler_: okay
[11:29] <b_e_n_z> infamus, gmplayer
[11:29] <trappist> tyler_: you just defined 'my firefox' as 'broken'.  well done.
[11:29] <jpfarias> hi!
[11:29] <topyli> daemos: i gave up with our novell servers a long time ago, keep my own stuff, and demended a non-novell printer on the network :)
[11:30] <mwe> tyler_: does the ubuntu 1.0.7 version work?
[11:30] <tyler_> trappist, i'm out of ideas on how to make it work so i'm moving on for now, unless you have some ideas?
[11:30] <jpfarias> how do I configure the network in ubuntu?
[11:30] <topyli> daemos: much quicker
[11:30] <ordinary> ubotu, left is right, black is white
[11:30] <infamus> tyler: if you go into the synaptic packege manager you can find nvidea drivers in-Multimedia (restricted)copyright)
[11:30] <ubotu> okay, ordinary
[11:30] <trappist> !my firefox
[11:30] <ubotu> I heard my firefox is broken.. heh
[11:30] <tyler_> mwe, no, for some reason when i tried to install 1.5 just now it made it so that when i try to open ff like normal i get an error
[11:30] <idiot> There is a 4.4gb file on a windows PC and whenever I try to move it to this Linux computer using the samba networking it fails and says file size limit exceeded, can someone help I need this file.
[11:30] <trappist> awesome
[11:30] <trappist> !forget my firefox
[11:30] <ubotu> trappist: i forgot my firefox
[11:30] <infamus> b_e_n_z: thanks ill try it out
[11:30] <daemos> tpoyli:  hah believe me I would if I could
[11:31] <daemos> I am actually just interested in 'exploring' the infrastructure of out network :)
[11:31] <trappist> idiot: 2gb filesize limits suck
[11:31] <paulproteus> daemos: I would expect the HOWTO I linked you to would help you.
[11:31] <trappist> idiot: you might try using winscp on windows to scp it over
[11:31] <mwe> tyler_: I would try sudo apt-get remove firefos && sudo apt-get install firefox for starters
[11:31] <infamus> tyler_: if you go into the synaptic packege manager you can find nvidea drivers in-Multimedia (restricted)copyright)
[11:31] <daemos> and without logging in, ethercap cant capture any TCP streams that aren't local
[11:32] <topyli> daemos: ncpclient is rumoured to work well by some. i guess it's up to the phase of the moon
[11:32] <tyler_> infamus, im very new to SPM, but when I click on Multimedia on the left, should I be looking for (restricted)copyright on the right?
[11:32] <tyler_> mwe, i will, thanks
[11:33] <topyli> damn this stupid player takes long to build
[11:33] <daemos> Server: admin.landmark.edu
[11:33] <daemos> Context: Students.Putney.Landmark
[11:33] <daemos> Tree: lc-tree
[11:33] <mwe> tyler_: typing firefox correctly, though and not firefos :)
[11:33] <tyler_> mwe, hehe yeah
[11:33] <daemos> I cant mount anything
[11:33] <daemos> and when i try slist it cant find the server
[11:33] <tyler_> mwe, E: Invalid operation firefox
[11:33] <daemos> could someone maybe correct my syntax?
[11:33] <infamus> tyler_: no on the left it will read Multimedia(restricted copyright) and on the right it will have the different packages for nvidea and ATI
[11:34] <Rawplayer> DO
[11:34] <mwe> tyler_: what did you type?
[11:34] <ttrocal> Hello, a problem has recently emerged on my Ubuntu Breezy system where I am unable to log back on to my KDE or Gnome sessions after the screen has been locked.  It will tell me my password is invalid, though I'm sure it is not, and fail to unlock the session.  I can still log in through KDM normally and my password still works for sudo.  What might be wrong?
[11:34] <daemos> ncpmount -S admin.landmark.edu -U -S       doesnt seem to work
[11:34] <tyler_> infamus, I see Multimedia, but no (restricted copyright) next to it.
[11:34] <daemos> and ncpmount doesnt have any options to include any tree or context
[11:34] <tyler_> mwe, sudo apt-get firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:34] <tyler_> E: Invalid operation firefox
[11:34] <daemos> I saw a hack by novell
[11:34] <daemos> but its only for SUSE10
[11:34] <daemos> any chance it will compile under ubuntu?
[11:34] <mwe> tyler_: wrong command
[11:34] <infamus> tyler_: try apt-get update, i did and they all showed up in SPM
[11:35] <mwe> tyler_: sudo apt-get remove firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:35] <tyler_> mwe, ack my bad
[11:35] <Ofe> hiya. Could someone tell me how to install totem-xine with no internet connection awailable in the computer it's supposed to be installed in to? I have a package called totem-xine_1.2.0-0ubuntu3_i386.deb. Tried installing it with dpkg but it said "conflicting packages". anyone, please? I have to get this ready by tomorrow. :(
[11:35] <topyli> daemos: if there is source, you can compile it
[11:35] <daemos> check it http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/16441.html   ---- Will this work under Ubuntu ?
[11:35] <tyler_> mwe, tyler@ubuntu165:~$ sudo apt-get remove firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:35] <tyler_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[11:35] <tyler_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?
[11:35] <tristanmike> tyler_, close synaptic
[11:35] <daemos> ok
[11:35] <tyler_> tristanmike, thanks
[11:35] <daemos> thanks for your help topyli
[11:35] <idiot> Lol
[11:36] <topyli> daemos: damn you, you got me interested in this stuff again ;-)
[11:36] <arcanistherogue> hey, i just downloaded a .svg file from gnome look, how do i use it as my metacity theme?
[11:36] <daemos> haha
[11:36] <DShepherd> http://www.aboutdebian.com/ <-- good read for newbies like me
[11:36] <tyler_> mwe, ok, i did it and it loooks like it worked.  what now? :)
[11:36] <daemos> yeah I am just interested because its a wireless network and Im interested in what sort of packets are floating through the air
[11:36] <NoobieDoobieDo> Hi all.  I'm back on Ubuntu ;)
[11:37] <ni0m1> hello room :) how can i install firefox 1.5 beta?
[11:37] <tyler_> mwe, should i try to install 1.5 again? haha
[11:37] <cjb> Hi.  I'm seeing "libc_wrapper error: passed invalid FILE handle to xf86fprintf" when trying to start X with the nvidia driver.
[11:38] <arcanistherogue> hey, i just downloaded a .svg file from gnome look, how do i use it as my metacity theme?
[11:38] <guydebord> How can i open compressed files ending with .gz
[11:38] <mwe> tyler_: your choise. it works for me
[11:38] <tyler_> infamus, i did the update, however I still don't see anything other than just Multimedia
[11:38] <trappist> guydebord: gunzip unless it's a .tar.gz in which case tar zxf
[11:38] <tyler_> mwe, it said everything worked out, but when I go applications>internet>firefox web browser I get an error.
[11:39] <foampeace> hi there
[11:39] <mwe> tyler_: maybe rm -rf /home/you/.mozilla again
[11:40] <k31th> guys how do you totally remove a package
[11:40] <k31th> and all the conf files etc ?
[11:40] <mwe> tyler_: substituting "you" for your actuaul login name
[11:40] <HrdwrBoB> k31th: dpkg --purge packagename
[11:40] <tyler_> mwe,  yeah, hehe
[11:40] <foampeace> when the system boots it gets stuck on ntp.ubuntulinux.org. how can i disable this loading at boot time
[11:40] <infamus> !tell infamus about cvs
[11:41] <tyler_> mwe, "Cannot launch entry.  Details: Failed to execute child process "firefox" (No such file or directory)"
[11:41] <k31th> HrdwrBoB: thanks man
[11:41] <HrdwrBoB> no worries
[11:41] <aimaz> foampeace, it'd be better if you set up the networking so it works
[11:41] <k31th> i knew it was purge i was typing apt-get purge
[11:41] <HrdwrBoB> k31th: btw, you asked a good question, very easy to asnwer :)
[11:41] <k31th> im loosing it i swear
[11:41] <mwe> tyler_: that's odd. can you run it from the terminal?
[11:42] <k31th> :D
[11:42] <tyler_> where does 1.07 reside
[11:42] <HrdwrBoB> makes me a happy camper
[11:42] <tyler_> mwe, where does 1.07 reside?
[11:42] <infamus> you cant install through cvs in ubuntu can you
[11:42] <HrdwrBoB> tyler_: run sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox
[11:42] <mwe> tyler_: the binary should be /usr/bin/firefox
[11:42] <tyler_> ok, hold pls :)
[11:42] <mwe> HrdwrBoB: he did
[11:43] <tyler_> mwe, no such file or directory.  I'll try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox
[11:43] <Red-Sox> DaddyCadd: hi
[11:43] <foampeace> aimaz: yes its pppoe so it doesnt kick it right away
[11:43] <Red-Sox> Trashcan: hi
[11:43] <Red-Sox> McCrank: hu
[11:43] <HrdwrBoB> mwe: ah, something is on crack then
[11:43] <Trashcan> hi redsox
[11:43] <mwe> HrdwrBoB: or rather apt-get remove && apt-get install it, to the same effect I believe
[11:43] <Trashcan> friendly guy
[11:43] <k31th> going to install asterisk is it best to do so via apt or  via source ?
[11:43] <nickrud> foampeace, you can set the timeout for ntpdate in /etc/default/ntpdate. use the option -v , see man ntpdate
[11:43] <aimaz> foampeace, I know a way to do it, but ubuntu probably has a nicer way, so I'm reluctant to tell you
[11:43] <McCrank> hey red sox
[11:43] <HrdwrBoB> mwe: yeah, pretty much
[11:44] <tyler_> HrdwrBoB, It looks like it works, it shows the progress working and stuff, but when it finishes I get the same error.?
[11:44] <nickrud> foampeace, option -t I mean
[11:44] <foampeace> nickrud: thanks
[11:44] <OneFix_Work> I just placed an order for Ubuntu CDs from ShipIt...and I know it says 4-6 weeks, but does it usually take that long or are they generally faster?
[11:44] <Seveas> OneFix_Work, usually that long
[11:44] <HrdwrBoB> tyler_: run ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
[11:45] <McCrank> lookin for some help when i install ubuntu amd64 everything seems fine but when i run it the  video is seriously messed up and the mouse is a large square it freezes shortly after
[11:45] <a|so> okay..  i downloaded the ubuntu cd image for installing the software and burnt it into one of my cd's and i set my bios to boot from the cd/rom and i restarted my compaq presario... it goes to a black screen with a small -  which blinks.. and then it just stays there and after around 5 minutes windows loads up.. what should i do
[11:45] <Ofe> I'm trying to make totem-xine work. so i'm trying to remove totem because I had a package conflict. but it says if I want to remove totem it will remove ubuntu-desktop too. is it true?
[11:45] <mwe> tyler_: did you at some point use dpkg-divert to rename the binary or something?
[11:46] <tyler_> mwe, nothing like that...
[11:46] <tyler_> mwe, if i could go online i would show you the guide i used
[11:46] <tyler_> mwe, but it was really simple, just cp the package to /opt/ then tar there
[11:46] <nickrud> Ofe, you should be able to just install totem-xine, it will replace the current totem
[11:46] <k31th> does anyone use ubuntu for a asterisk server os ?
[11:46] <tyler_> mwe, i am doing the remove&&install over and over trying different things but it alsways ends the same
[11:46] <tyler_> mwe, with it not finding the /usr/bin/firefox directory
[11:47] <Ofe> nickrud : I'm trying to install totem-xine from a package. the computer that I'm trying to install totem-xine to doesn't have an internet connection.
[11:47] <a|so> who are the helpers ?
[11:47] <a|so> help me.. i am unable to install ubuntu at all
[11:47] <mwe> tyler_: if you type fire and then press tab two times what shows up if anything then?
[11:47] <the> My OpenGL Applications keep freezing.
[11:47] <nickrud> Ofe, oh. You'll need the dependencies as well then, you're right.
[11:47] <infamus> b_e_n_z: im trying to find mplayer but im not finding a good source to DL from, any ideas?
[11:48] <tyler_> mwe, from what directory
[11:48] <nickrud> Ofe, do you have access to another ubuntu machine that is on the net?
[11:48] <mwe> tyler_: any directory should do
[11:48] <Ofe> yup, this one. 5.04.
[11:48] <tyler_> mwe, from / i got firefox.ubuntu
[11:48] <npx> [marillat]  an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key>
[11:48] <HrdwrBoB> infamus: what you mean apart from built into ubuntu
[11:48] <Nealz> My OpenGL Applications keep freezing.
[11:48] <mwe> tyler_: yeah there you got it
[11:48] <nickrud> Ofe, then, look at the package apt-zip. It's meant for getting packages and dependencies for machines that are not on the net
[11:48] <Ofe> I mean nickrud : yup, this one. 5.04 with 0.9kbps connectionspeed. the other one is 5.10
[11:48] <mwe> tyler_: you must have run dpkg-divert at some point
[11:48] <tyler_> mwe, shit. what now?
[11:49] <mwe> tyler_: hold on
[11:49] <tyler_> mwe, the guide seemed so easy i was kind of just cp/pasting like a newbie
[11:49] <nickrud> mjr, 5.04, 5.10, apt-zip is not quite it then.
[11:49] <nickrud> mmm, sorry
[11:49] <Nealz> My OpenGL Applications keep freezing. The only error it says is: 'Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:49] <Nealz> '
[11:49] <mwe> tyler_: use dpkg-divert to get rid of the diversion, let me figure the excact coammand
[11:49] <tyler_> mwe, okay
[11:49] <Xial> Good evening. Small question. I'm trying the live cd of Ubuntu, and unfortunately, my mouse (GE PS/2 Optical mouse) is not working properly. The buttons work, but I can't move the mouse cursor itself. It's stuck off in the upper right corner. I'm having no luck with a google search. Any suggestions?
[11:50] <mwe> tyler_: sudo dpkg-divert --rename --remove /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu, I believe
[11:50] <tyler_> mwe, hold :)
[11:50] <Ofe> nickrud : is it possible just to download the breezy-version (from packages.ubuntu.com) and installing it (or whatever you do with it) from an usb-memorystick?
[11:50] <NoobieDoobieDo> Xial, I'd suggest editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make sure the Mouse drive is PS/2
[11:51] <tyler_> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[11:51] <tyler_>         LANGUAGE = "en",
[11:51] <tyler_>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[11:51] <tyler_>         LANG = "en"
[11:51] <tyler_>     are supported and installed on your system.
[11:51] <tyler_> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[11:51] <tyler_> No diversion `any diversion of /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu', none removed
[11:51] <tyler_> ack
[11:51] <a|so> hello..............................
[11:51] <mwe> tyler_: yeah
[11:51] <a|so> need help
[11:52] <mwe> tyler_: try sudo dpkg-divert --rename --remove /usr/bin/firefox
[11:52] <nickrud> Ofe, yes, but you're gonna need more packages than just totem-xine, at least libxine1c2 , maybe more.
[11:52] <Xial> It's worth a shot. Thanks. I'll try that now.
[11:52] <Nealz> My OpenGL Applications keep freezing. The only error it says is: 'Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".'
[11:52] <Seveas> tyler_, NEVER paste in here
[11:52] <Seveas> Nealz, then enable dri
[11:52] <Ofe> nickrud : I have w32codecs installed too. any help from that? :)
[11:52] <tyler_> Seveas, sorry.
[11:52] <Nealz> Seveas:  How?
[11:52] <tyler_> mwe, ok it removed.
[11:52] <trappist> Nealz: what video card
[11:52] <topyli> bah. the vlc plugin is not showing the apple.com trailers :(
[11:53] <mwe> tyler_: try to start firefox now
[11:53] <Seveas> Nealz, Load "dri" in section Files
[11:53] <Nealz> trappist:  ATI Radeon 9800
[11:53] <tyler_> mwe, Success :)
[11:53] <trappist> Nealz: you need to be using the fglrx drivers for that
[11:53] <Seveas> Nealz, and install fglrx drivers
[11:53] <Seveas> !tell Nealz about ati
[11:53] <Xial> Hm. Slight issue. I'm unable to write to the file (as it's the live cd).
[11:53] <tyler_> mwe, now that im back at square one.. to install 1.5 I should just have to cp my package to /opt/ and untar it, right?
[11:53] <Nealz> Well like they run and whatnot
[11:53] <mwe> tyler_: yeah
[11:53] <Nealz> but it stops doing keyboard actions, etc.
[11:54] <tyler_> mwe, then run /opt/firefox/firefox
[11:54] <mwe> tyler_: and check that it works before fiddling with dpkg-divert
[11:54] <nickrud> Ofe, yeah, you want that too :) you could put apt-zip on the 5.10 machine; it will create a script that you take to another machine and run. At the least it will tell you the packages you need; at the best, it may do all you need.
[11:54] <tyler_> mwe, what does that even do?
[11:55] <mwe> tyler_: it renames the binary that any package tries to install
[11:55] <Ofe> okay. thanks nickrud. I'll highlight you again if I need any help. :)
[11:55] <nickrud> Ofe, I haven't used if for a few years so my memory is a bit hazy, but I used it in just your situation.
[11:56] <Nealz> Alright uhm..is anything wrong with the servers?
[11:56] <mwe> tyler_: so that you can link //opt/firefox/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox and your version will be used instead of the ubuntu one
[11:56] <tyler_> mwe, oh
[11:56] <Nealz> I think it's me.
[11:56] <tyler_> mwe, ok, i did sudo tar xzvf firefox-1.5
[11:56] <tyler_> mwe, then i tried /opt/firefox/firefox
[11:56] <cusco> help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:56] <cusco> cusco@Portatil:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep M
[11:56] <cusco> cpu MHz         : 102.902
[11:57] <cusco> I have a celeron at 2.6GHz
[11:57] <cusco> why is it working at 102MHz
[11:57] <cusco> ?
[11:57] <tyler_> mwe, and got "Firefox could not install this item because of chrome registration" error again.
[11:57] <gfish> how do i burn .iso files
[11:57] <tyler_> mwe, any idea whaat that is?
[11:57] <Nealz> cusco:  Maybe you're using the rest.
[11:57] <mwe> tyler_: yeah now rm -rf /home/tyler/.mozilla && /opt/firefox/firefox to see if it will run
[11:57] <mwe> tyler_: even if you run it again?
[11:57] <aminorex> cdrecord --data image.iso
[11:57] <tyler_> i tried 3 times
[11:57] <cusco> Nealz: what do you mean? I don0t think I am
[11:58] <mwe> tyler_: and with sudo you get it too?
[11:58] <dbglt> hi everyone
[11:58] <tyler_> mwe, yes.
[11:58] <tyler_> mwe, maybe i should re-download 1.5.
[11:58] <dbglt> I just installed ubuntu: what on earth is my root password? :P
[11:58] <tyler_> mwe, i'm running 64ubuntu if it matters
[11:58] <mwe> tyler_: I doubt it will work
[11:58] <Nealz> cusco: go into a terminal and run the top command.
[11:58] <anavim> !tell dbglt about rootsudo
[11:58] <nickrud> dbglt, there is no root password
[11:58] <dbglt> ...
[11:58] <cusco> Nealz: yes..
[11:59] <mwe> tyler_: maybe you have to remove roots .mozilla, you guessing though
[11:59] <cusco> the one that is using most cpu
[11:59] <dbglt> I'd like to have my root password - I assume I can reset it?
[11:59] <Nealz> cusco:  just 'top' is any of your processor being used?
[11:59] <cusco> is xorg
[11:59] <dbglt> init 1 or similar?
[11:59] <nickrud> dbglt, ubuntu highly recommends using sudo instead of a root password
[11:59] <cusco> Nealz: yes very littl
[11:59] <cusco> Nealz: yes very little
[11:59] <tyler_> mwe, rm /.mozilla?
[11:59] <mwe> tyler_: no
[11:59] <nickrud> dbglt, it you really want it, sudo passwd root , and you can set it.
[11:59] <cusco> Cpu(s):  4.0% us,  2.3% sy,  0.0% ni, 93.7% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
[11:59] <Nealz> cusco: it's being used, though. It's just saying that it's current clock rate is 102 or whatever you had.
[11:59] <lsuactiafner> how fast should a seagate 300G 7200 rpm 16mb cache sata3 300 ncq write data to an ext3 filesystem on an asus a8n deluxe nforce4 chipset? i only get 30mb/s max.. what can i do to increase it?
[11:59] <mwe> tyler_: sudo rm -rf /root/.mozilla && sudo /opt/firefox/firefox
[11:59] <dbglt> dealing in a chmod environment and such, which may not have sudo
[11:59] <dbglt> so yeah
[12:00] <Nealz> cusco:  Sometimes if it's too hot it will slow down


[12:29] <cwayne> ello
[12:29] <coolbhavi> hey cwayne
[12:29] <cwayne> hey coolbhavi, how's it goin
[12:30] <coolbhavi> its going good
[12:30] <coolbhavi> there?
[13:07] <cwayne> not too bad
[13:07] <cwayne> coolbhavi: still just waitin for one more vote :P
[13:08] <coolbhavi> have to ask ajmitch or quadrispro :)
[14:56] <coolbhavi> dpm, great session!
[14:57] <dpm> thanks coolbhavi :-)
[14:57] <coolbhavi> :)