[09:33] <kirk__> lol
[09:33] <pillowpants_> you might more luck with other distros
[09:33] <pillowpants_> sabayon is cool too
[09:33] <kirk__> what about redhat
[09:34] <kirk__> or suse
[09:34] <kirk__> they seem to be really popular
[09:34] <pillowpants_> redhat costs
[09:34] <pillowpants_> suse is lame, in my opinion
[09:34] <Jucato> please take the distro rating in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[09:40] <kirk__> how do u install programs on here
[09:41] <flaccid> !adept
[09:41] <Ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:41] <Jucato> from Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager
[09:41] <Jucato> !software
[09:41] <Ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[09:41] <Jucato> that too
[09:42] <waylandbill_> !apt
[09:42] <Ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:42] <Miscellaneous> !dpkg
[09:42] <Ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[09:43] <waylandbill_> ha. four different people with four different answers. All correct. :)
[09:44] <Jucato> 1 problem, 4 different ways of solving, all correct. Linux
[09:44] <flaccid> yeah but only 1 is in the GUI layer
[09:45] <hangthedj> !synaptic
[09:45] <Ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:46] <waylandbill_> fortunately, the gui isn't necessary.
[09:47] <kirk__> !install software
[09:47] <kirk__> !install
[09:47] <Ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[09:48] <kirk__> !software
[09:48] <Ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[09:48] <hangthedj> kirk__, there is also kinstall kpackage gdebi
[09:48] <kirk__> whats the easiest
[09:48] <waylandbill_> adept is the place you'd probably want to start
[09:48] <flaccid> the easiest is what the user thinks is the easiest
[09:48] <flaccid> adept is the official one and probably the easiest
[09:49] <Jucato> kirk__: read through that Software Management Link and take note of the Kubuntu specific section. then you decide
[09:49] <kirk__> theres 2 tag.rz files and one debian-binary
[09:49] <kirk__> this is for frostwire
[09:49] <Jucato> of course Adept would be the most newbie/GUI friendly
[09:49] <Jucato> (actually Synaptic would be. but...)
[09:49] <kirk__> tar,gz*
[09:49] <flaccid> please read the links so you don't have to ask again
[09:49] <waylandbill_> doung forget that there's source installations when you get more experienced as well. :)
[09:50] <flaccid> suprisingly the links contain the answers to your questions
[09:50] <waylandbill_> !frostwire
[09:50] <Ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:50] <waylandbill_> that link tells the exact steps for frostwire from start to finish.
[09:51] <waylandbill_> or if you need to ask again, you can msg ubotu directly and get the answer privately.
[09:51] <flaccid> do a /query ubotu and ask him whatever you need
[09:53] <Jucato> in programming?
[09:53] <Jucato> svg graphics
[09:53] <Jucato> mostly to be used for the other apps like writer or impress
[09:54] <kirk__> is  there a typical folder that you install progs to, like c:\program files for windows...
[09:54] <jussi01> Jucato: and what can you do in it that you cant do in writer with a drawing toolbar?
[09:55] <jussi01> hehe
[09:55] <flaccid> yeah in programming
[09:55] <Jucato> !fhs | kirk__
[09:55] <Ubotu> kirk__: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[09:55] <jussi01> kirk__: what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:55] <flaccid> im a programmer..
[09:55] <Jucato> flaccid: nice. one of these days/weeks/months I'll have to ask you about it
[09:56] <flaccid> what lang/implementation
[09:56] <Jucato> but not today... :)
[09:56] <Jucato> C++
[09:56] <level1> hi, I'm using raid5 on my computer and I suspect that one of my disks might have failed... how can I be sure?
[09:56] <flaccid> ah yeah ok
[09:56] <Jucato> or at least the theory behind it all
[09:56] <Jucato> theory and practical use :)
[09:56] <level1> theres a program running called md2_raid5
[09:56] <flaccid> np
[09:56] <waylandbill_> recursion in programming is very handy once you understand when and how to implement it.
[09:57] <Jucato> waylandbill_: the 2nd part of your sentence is why I hate recursion :)
[09:57] <level1> there are certian problems that can be done with iteration, but its just much saner to do it in recursion
[09:58] <level1> anyways, how can I figure out the status of my raid setup?
[09:58] <waylandbill_> Jucato: want a real world test? recurse directories and print out their entries. That is a nice fundamental recursion.
[09:58] <kirk__> wow this is complicated
[09:58] <flaccid> Jucato: http://sukka.jct.ac.il/~danzig/cpp/recursion.html thats a good enough explanation
[09:59] <flaccid> thats traversal
[09:59] <flaccid> :)
[09:59] <waylandbill_> Jucato: I did just that in the little snippet of code I wrote for the kubuntu distro updater.
[09:59] <Jucato> kirk__: not really. the whole filesystem is basically divided into directories according to purpose instead of by program name
[09:59] <Jucato> kirk__: all executable files would be in in a bin/ directory (like /usr/bin/), config files would be in /etc, so on
[09:59] <Jucato> waylandbill_: bleh :P
[10:00] <Jucato> flaccid, waylandbill_: thanks. I'll look into this :)
[10:00] <flaccid> yeah thats a traversal example. recursion calls itself
[10:00] <flaccid> anyway
[10:00] <flaccid> im off to the pub
[10:00] <Jucato> because I can't seem to appreciate using recursion just to multiply by the power of n :)
[10:01] <flaccid> i'll show you a better example next time then
[10:01] <flaccid> i gtg. cya guys
[10:01] <Jucato> bye and tkirk__: this is where package management comes in and makes it easy for you. they make sure that all the files are put in the proper places
[10:01] <Jucato> bah! stupid insert
[10:01] <Jucato> kirk__: this is where package management comes in and makes it easy for you. they make sure that all the files are put in the proper places so that you don't have to go and dig for them.
[10:02] <waylandbill_> um. if you mean directory entries is traversing, actually my directory recursing code did call itself... once for each subdirectory it ran into.
[10:02] <Jucato> waylandbill_: Lure told me about that particular use of recursion. but didn't really explain how.
[10:02] <kirk__> im sure i'll catch on, thanks for all the help
[10:02] <kirk__> i've been on window my entire life and now switch to this
[10:03] <Jucato> it takes time to get used to something new. just keep an open mind and remember that something new is always hard the first time around
[10:03] <Jucato> I bet if you remembered the first time you used windows, you'd remember that it was hard to get used to it too
[10:03] <kirk__> i do remember it actually
[10:04] <waylandbill_> the recursion happens everytime you hit a subdirectory. You call the function again and eventually when there are no more subdirectories, you come back out a step. wash, rinse, repeat. :)
[10:05] <Jucato> hehe that I can imagine I guess :)
[10:06] <Jucato> storage class specifiers...
[10:06] <kirk__> hmm now its installed but wont open
[10:07] <waylandbill_> kirk__: frostwire? you need java installed too.
[10:08] <Jucato> sun java, that is
[10:09] <kirk__> theres a lot of sun javas that come up on the adept
[10:09] <waylandbill_> Jucato: flaccid is right about the entries themselves, you traverse those. It was easy in adept with the Qt class that fills a string list with them though. ;-)
[10:10] <Jucato> kirk__: sun-java6-bin
[10:10] <waylandbill_> sun-java6-bin
[10:10] <Jucato> waylandbill_: bah! don't get me started with Qt yet :P
[10:10] <kirk__> you people are awesome, thanks
[10:15] <lnx_> someone know how i can add Gnome's panel weather tool to my panel ?
[10:15] <Jucato> lnx_: why not use KDE's weather applet instead?
[10:16] <Jucato> because you can't use GNOME panel applets in the KDE panel, and vice versa
[10:16] <Jucato> !info kweather | lnx_
[10:16] <Ubotu> lnx_: kweather: weather display applet for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1221 kB, installed size 2296 kB
[10:17] <lnx_> Jucato , kde weather doesnt have my city or area
[10:18] <Jucato> you can add them if you know the airport code
[10:18] <lnx_> Jucato , may be xfce4 weather tool can be added to kde panel ?
[10:18] <Jucato> no
[10:19] <Jucato> lnx_: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7360.0
[10:25] <hangthedj> on kubuntu what is the c library to change text color on console?
[10:34] <josef> hello
[10:35] <lnx_> Jucato , there are only codes near airport , and its far for me i can get a city code ?
[10:36] <Yz85Racer> hey
[10:36] <Yz85Racer> what is a X-Window system installed
[10:36] <Yz85Racer> its for a game i play
[10:36] <Jucato> lnx_: as far as I know, these wheather applets take their data from airports... but if your city has that code too, then maybe yes
[10:37] <Jucato> huh?
[10:37] <Yz85Racer> well
[10:37] <Yz85Racer> it said in the req. for my game
[10:37] <Jucato> !x
[10:37] <Ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:37] <Yz85Racer> that i need a X-Window system installed
[10:37] <Yz85Racer> so type sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[10:37] <Yz85Racer> in a k\console?
[10:37] <Jucato> it's the part of the operating system that lets you have graphics and windows
[10:38] <SlimeyPete> Yz85Racer: you already have it installed. It's what provides the graphics on your screen.
[10:38] <Jucato> it's already running
[10:38] <Yz85Racer> ohhhh ok...
[10:38] <SlimeyPete> Yz85Racer: you don't need to do anything
[10:38] <Yz85Racer> so i run the binary
[10:38] <Yz85Racer> and it says
[10:38] <Yz85Racer> "open with"
[10:38] <Yz85Racer> what do I open it with
[10:38] <Yz85Racer> ] ?
[10:38] <Jucato> what is it?
[10:38] <Yz85Racer> Extract the downloaded file and start the binary "Tibia" in the new folder "Tibia"
[10:38] <Jucato> what game is it?
[10:39] <Yz85Racer> Tibia
[10:40] <Jucato> in Konsole, go to the Tibia folder, make sure the Tibia file is there, then type: ./Tibia (or whatever name the executable file has)
[10:40] <Yz85Racer> ohk
[10:40] <Yz85Racer> how mdo i go to the tibia folder in c
[10:40] <Yz85Racer> konsole
[10:41] <Yz85Racer> im used to typing cd C:\
[10:41] <Yz85Racer> etc
[10:41] <Yz85Racer> on windows
[10:41] <Jucato> where did you extract it to?
[10:42] <Yz85Racer> desktop
[10:42] <Yz85Racer> in a folder called Tibia
[10:42] <Yz85Racer> :P
[10:42] <Yz85Racer> ahhh
[10:42] <Yz85Racer> //home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia
[10:42] <Jucato> cd ~/Desktop/Tibia/
[10:42] <Jucato> ~ is a shorcut for /home/username
[10:43] <Yz85Racer> bash: /home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia: is a directory
[10:43] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~$
[10:43] <Yz85Racer> ...?
[10:43] <Jucato> didn't I say "cd"?
[10:43] <Yz85Racer> ahh
[10:43] <Jucato> cd ~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia (forgot the other Tibia)
[10:44] <Yz85Racer> ohk
[10:44] <Yz85Racer> now how do i run the executable?
[10:44] <Jucato> ./Tibia
[10:44] <Jucato> if that's the name of the program/filename
[10:44] <Yz85Racer> Yes
[10:44] <Yz85Racer> but it says
[10:45] <Yz85Racer> bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[10:45] <Jucato> are you sure that the Tibia file is there? or is there another directory you need to go into?
[10:45] <Yz85Racer> i go to
[10:45] <Yz85Racer> //home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia
[10:45] <Yz85Racer> then type
[10:45] <Yz85Racer> ./Tibia
[10:46] <Yz85Racer> and the executable is called Tibia
[10:46] <Jucato> hm...
[10:46] <Jucato> can you type "ls" (like dir in Windows) and check? the executable files are colored green
[10:47] <Yz85Racer> yes
[10:47] <Yz85Racer> Tibia is green
[10:47] <lnx_> there isnt other weather tools for kde weather displaying ?
[10:47] <Yz85Racer> Tibia
[10:47] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia$
[10:48] <Jucato> weird...
[10:48] <Jucato> !pastebin
[10:48] <Ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:48] <Yz85Racer> ...?
[10:48] <Jucato> use pastebin and paste the output of "ls -l"
[10:48] <Yz85Racer> k
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> juc
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> its only
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> 2 lines
[10:49] <Jucato> ok
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> total 5068
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> -rwxr-xr-x 1 kyle kyle 5175944 2007-06-26 20:36 Tibia
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia$
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> oh
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> three
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> :(
[10:49] <Jucato> are you sure it won't run with ./Tibia ? (don't forget the ./ )
[10:50] <Yz85Racer> yes
[10:50] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia$ ./Tibia
[10:50] <Yz85Racer> bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[10:50] <Jucato> how about "sh ./Tibia" ?
[10:51] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia$ "sh ./Tibia
[10:51] <Yz85Racer> >
[10:51] <giorgi> 'l,m;'
[10:51] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: er.. Ctrl+C and next time, don't include the quotes
[10:52] <Yz85Racer> > sh ./Tibia
[10:52] <Yz85Racer> >
[10:52] <Yz85Racer> see
[10:52] <Yz85Racer> o.0
[10:52] <Jucato> did you press Ctrl+C first?
[10:53] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia$ sh ./Tibia
[10:53] <Yz85Racer> ./Tibia: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")
[10:53] <Yz85Racer> i pressed
[10:53] <Yz85Racer> ctrl c
[10:53] <Yz85Racer> first
[10:53] <Jucato> really weird...
[10:54] <Jucato> can you give me a link to where you downloaded that so I could test?
[10:54] <Yz85Racer> http://download3.tibia.com/tibia800.tgz
[10:55] <Jucato> hm. taking a while to download...
[10:56] <Jucato> wait! are you sure this game runs on linux in the first place?
[10:56] <Yz85Racer> yes
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> Linux
[10:57] <Yz85Racer>   System Requirements:
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> Linux with libc version 6 or later
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> X-Window system installed
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> Hardware accelerated graphics driver
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> 32 MB free hard disk space
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> A connection to the internet
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> Download and Installation:
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> Download the game (approx. 15.5 MB):
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> Linux Tibia Client 8.0
[10:57] <Jucato> !paste | Yz85Racer
[10:57] <Ubotu> Yz85Racer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:57] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: you downloaded the windows version
[10:58] <Jucato> http://download.tibia.com/tibia800.tgz <--- linux version
[10:59] <Yz85Racer> no i didnt
[10:59] <Yz85Racer> because its in a tgz and its not a .exe
[10:59] <Jucato> a tgz is like a winzip... it's just an archive
[10:59] <Jucato> look at the links again. download3.tibia.com is for the windows version
[11:00] <Yz85Racer> http://download3.tibia.com/tibia800.tgz
[11:00] <Yz85Racer> take a look for yourself
[11:00] <Yz85Racer> https://secure.tibia.com/account/?subtopic=downloadclient
[11:00] <Yz85Racer> i re extracted
[11:00] <Yz85Racer> and now iv got
[11:00] <Yz85Racer> Patch  Showerror  Tibia  Tibia.dat  Tibia.pic  Tibia.spr  Tibia.xpm
[11:00] <Yz85Racer> when i press ls
[11:01] <Yz85Racer> the first three
[11:01] <Yz85Racer> are in green
[11:01] <Jucato> hm..
[11:02] <Jucato> how about just typing Tibia? does that work?
[11:03] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia$ Tibia
[11:03] <Yz85Racer> bash: Tibia: command not found
[11:03] <Jucato> hm... 50%... wonder what's wrong
[11:03] <Bob1nz> hey
[11:06] <Yz85Racer> Jucato: http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/862/snapshot1zw3.png
[11:06] <Jucato> just waiting for the download to finish
[11:07] <arkadiomorales> elo
[11:07] <arkadiomorales> mam kubuntu
[11:07] <arkadiomorales> jak go odinstalowalc ?
[11:07] <Jucato> !pl | arkadiomorales
[11:07] <Ubotu> arkadiomorales: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:08] <lnx_> what is the kde command for this : $gnome-cups-manager ?
[11:09] <Jucato> System Settings -> Printers ?
[11:09] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: it works perfectly here...
[11:09] <Yz85Racer> could u tell me what you did?
[11:10] <Jucato> ./Tibia
[11:10] <Yz85Racer> ohk
[11:10] <Yz85Racer> i download it
[11:10] <Yz85Racer> right click .tgz
[11:11] <Yz85Racer> click extract to tibia800
[11:11] <Yz85Racer> go to konsole
[11:11] <Yz85Racer> then type
[11:11] <Yz85Racer> cd /home/kyle/Desktop/tibia800/Tibia
[11:11] <Yz85Racer> then ./Tibia
[11:11] <Yz85Racer> then it fkn says
[11:11] <Yz85Racer> bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[11:11] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/tibia800/Tibi
[11:12] <lnx_> someone ?
[11:12] <Jucato> lnx_: System Settings -> Printers ?
[11:13] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: ok again in Konsole: cd ~/Desktop/Tibia
[11:13] <Yz85Racer> done
[11:13] <Jucato> that's where it is, based on what you're showing me in Konqueror
[11:13] <Jucato> ./Tibia
[11:13] <Yz85Racer> bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[11:13] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia$
[11:14] <Bob1nz> level1 r u there
[11:14] <Jucato> huh?? really weird... last try
[11:14] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: in Konqueror, go to that directory you showed me in that screenshot
[11:14] <heretic> sudo updatedb;locate Tibia|less
[11:14] <Yz85Racer> k
[11:14] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: press F4, a Konsole should popup
[11:15] <TeePOG> hi guys
[11:15] <Jucato> then type ./Tibia again
[11:15] <TeePOG> how do i re-run the KDE settings wizard?
[11:15] <Yz85Racer> k
[11:15] <Yz85Racer> bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[11:15] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia$
[11:15] <Jucato> TeePOG: install kpersonalizer if it isn't installed yet, then run "kpersonalizer"
[11:16] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: ok I'm getting annoyed.. one last try... just enter this command: ~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia
[11:16] <TeePOG> thanks Jucato. it got installed as dependency
[11:16] <Jucato> if that still doesn't work, I don't know what will :(
[11:17] <heretic> Yz85Racer: type ls  -alh|grep xr
[11:17] <Jucato> heretic: see the imageshack link above
[11:17] <Yz85Racer> heretic:
[11:17] <Yz85Racer> drwxr-xr-x 2 kyle kyle 4.0K 2007-06-26 20:36 .
[11:17] <Yz85Racer> -rwxr-xr-x 1 kyle kyle  36K 2007-06-26 20:36 Patch
[11:17] <Yz85Racer> -rwxr-xr-x 1 kyle kyle 6.8K 2007-06-26 20:36 Showerror
[11:17] <Yz85Racer> -rwxr-xr-x 1 kyle kyle 5.0M 2007-06-26 20:36 Tibia
[11:17] <heretic> i came in late
[11:17] <Jucato> [17:06]  <Yz85Racer> Jucato: http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/862/snapshot1zw3.png
[11:19] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: so it still didn't work?
[11:19] <heretic> ahh
[11:19] <Yz85Racer> nop
[11:19] <Jucato> sorry
[11:19] <heretic> sh /home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia
[11:19] <heretic> Yz85Racer: ^^ try that
[11:19] <Jucato> heretic: the weird part is, it works fine over here
[11:19] <Jucato> http://download3.tibia.com/tibia800.tgz
[11:20] <Yz85Racer> heretic:
[11:20] <Yz85Racer> /home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")
[11:20] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia$
[11:20] <heretic> better then nto found
[11:20] <Jucato> not a shell script :)
[11:20] <Jucato> Yz85Racer:  you sure you used a period slash for ./ right? :)
[11:21] <Yz85Racer> yes
[11:22] <heretic> alright lets try this
[11:22] <heretic> ./home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia
[11:23] <Yz85Racer> bash: ./home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia: No such file or directory
[11:23] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia
[11:23] <Jucato> ready to give up?
[11:24] <Yz85Racer> nop
[11:24] <Jucato> that was for heretic...
[11:24] <Yz85Racer> oh
[11:24] <Yz85Racer> :P
[11:24] <Jucato> the only other possibility I can think of is that the download wasn't finished or was corrupted...
[11:24] <Bob1nz> wat about downloading it again?
[11:24] <Yz85Racer> its not that easy
[11:24] <Yz85Racer> iv got capped net
[11:24] <Yz85Racer> that took like
[11:24] <Bob1nz> gutted
[11:25] <Yz85Racer> 2 hours to download
[11:27] <Bob1nz> hey i havn trouble using commands in konsole ie. modprobe not working any ideas?
[11:28] <heretic> Bob1nz: use "sudo" before such commands
[11:29] <Bob1nz> yeah i have been n it tells me too install module-init-tools which i did and still no go
[11:29] <heretic> same message afterwards?
[11:30] <Jucato> what's the exact modprobe command you are using
[11:30] <Bob1nz> yup will put it in a paste thing n show u
[11:31] <VSpike> Recoll is great
[11:32] <Bob1nz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/161/
[11:33] <Bob1nz> heres the output
[11:33] <Bob1nz> from the modprobe thing
[11:33] <Jucato> you installed modutils?
[11:33] <Bob1nz> will jst check
[11:33] <Jucato> :/
[11:34] <Bob1nz> sorry im new
[11:34] <Jucato> :)
[11:34] <Jucato> well it's the first recommendation in that error message
[11:35] <Bob1nz> ya i tried it earlier today and it didnt work so i reinstalled the os
[11:35] <Jucato> O.o
[11:37] <Bob1nz> still no go it updated modutils heas the output
[11:37] <Bob1nz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/162/
[11:38] <Jucato> um... btw you need to use sudo with modprobe
[11:38] <Bob1nz> oh..... ok il try that
[11:39] <Bob1nz> it just goes to the next line is it sposed to
[11:40] <Jucato> if it loaded the module successfully, yes
[11:40] <Bob1nz> like no extra writing?
[11:40] <Jucato> as far as I know
[11:40] <Bob1nz> oh ok so how would i change that module ie. card=0 to card=3?
[11:42] <Bob1nz> ok thats kewl il do a bit of a google around thanks :)
[11:44] <pillowpants> ok, im talking from bitchx in a shell
[11:44] <pillowpants> i messed up my xorg
[11:44] <pillowpants> when i hit startx, it tells me no screens were found
[11:44] <pillowpants> what should i do?
[11:46] <pillowpants> anyone?
[11:46] <hangthedj> pillowpants, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then startx
[11:46] <pillowpants> ah yes, thanks
[11:46] <jussi01> with sudo on the front of course
[11:46] <pillowpants> yeah
[11:47] <pillowpants> i think i installed my drivers wrong
[11:47] <pillowpants> ill try it and tell you how it goes, thanks
[11:54] <pillowpants> thanks, was just what i was looking for
[11:55] <pillowpants> ive been in this situation before and not known what to do
[11:55] <pillowpants> i always forget the command
[11:55] <pillowpants> its the drivers i tried to install, but ill worry about it tomorrow, g'night
[12:10] <Anarch> I'm trying to get my xorg.conf to give me a higher resolution, but starting X just gives me a flickering screen the color of my background.  How can I find what refresh rates to set for a generic monitor that just says "*Reflex" on it?
[12:11] <Leoj> w00t w00t!  I just got Plone installed :D
[12:16] <wers> I am playing Microsoft AVI videos on kaffeine.the audio is good but the video is very choppy. what can i do?
[12:21] <Alloosh> hi, how to connect to my kubuntu computer from other computers?
[12:25] <SlimeyPete> you want to share files, Alloosh? Or do you want to control your computer remotely?
[12:26] <Alloosh> SlimeyPete: I want to control my computer remotely
[12:26] <Anarch> I'm googling for HorizSync & VertRefresh rates for my monitor, but no clues yet.  Ideas appreciated.
[12:32] <SlimeyPete> !ssh | Alloosh
[12:32] <Ubotu> Alloosh: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:32] <SlimeyPete> !vnc | Alloosh
[12:32] <Ubotu> Alloosh: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:36] <wers> what applet can I put on my kicker for me to see my WLAN's signal?
[12:37] <JuKaterssi> wers: knemo, knetstats, knetload, knetdockapp
[12:40] <wers> thanks JuKaterssi. is what among the choices shows the signal strenght with its taskbar icon?
[12:40] <JuKaterssi> um.. all of them I think
[12:40] <JuKaterssi> not really sure
[12:43] <wers> i tried knemo and knetstats and I remember that their icons do not indicate signal strenght]
[12:43] <wers> i'm going to try knetdockapp
[12:44] <icecool> hey i need some help
[12:44] <JuKaterssi> ask. if someone knows the answer, they will
[12:45] <icecool> i have some packages downloaded from the net and i want to configure apt so that it gets the packages from my harddrive rather than the internet
[12:45] <SlimeyPete> icecool: just use dpkg to install them
[12:45] <JuKaterssi> but you'll have to manually resolve dependencies
[12:46] <icecool> then i would have to install the dependencies my self
[12:46] <SlimeyPete> ah, true
[12:46] <JuKaterssi> are these packages from Kubuntu's repositories?
[12:46] <icecool> i want it configures so that it will search for the dependencies from the downloaded location
[12:46] <icecool> they are from ubuntu
[12:47] <icecool> the ubuntu repositories
[12:47] <JuKaterssi> in that case, you might just need to put them in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:47] <icecool> i tried that
[12:47] <JuKaterssi> and?
[12:47] <icecool> do i need to make some package index or something
[12:48] <icecool> well it still wants the internet connection to get the dependencies
[12:48] <JuKaterssi> hm... no I don't think so. it should just automatically notice that the package is already there and won't download it
[12:48] <JuKaterssi> perhaps it's still missing some dependencies that you haven't donwloaded
[12:49] <JuKaterssi> and sometimes it appears as if it's downloading, but you'll notice that it goes from 1% to 100% very quickly
[12:49] <JuKaterssi> oh he's gone :)
[12:49] <lazz0> does someone know how much dex i need for fast veterinary?
[12:50] <lazz0> wrong chan :)
[12:50] <JuKaterssi> lol
[12:50] <JuKaterssi> some rpg... veterinary? hahah
[12:50] <lazz0> yea
[12:59] <The-Compiler> Hi there
[01:01] <liquidus219> sup
[01:07] <wers> hmmm.. I just installed knemo. I ran it on the terminal by entering "knemo" but bash: knemo: command not found
[01:09] <emilsedgh> wers: its on systemSettings :)
[01:09] <emilsedgh> wers: its not an application
[01:10] <wers> ohh.. on Mepis, knemo was on the sys tray.. how do I put knemo on my systray?
[01:10] <DexterF> ok, my usb subsystem is falling apart here
[01:11] <DexterF> can someone please look at this:  http://pastebin.ca/695499
[01:11] <yamal> wers: once you use knemo its icon will appear there
[01:12] <DexterF> that's what dmesg gives me when I re-plug my usb dvb-t device (terratec cinergy2)
[01:12] <emilsedgh> wers: its a sys tray, but you should active it from systemSettings->Network Monitor
[01:12] <wers> yep. i activated it already but it still is not on my system tray
[01:13] <DexterF> my card reader behaves odd, too, devices via my usb hub work buggy, in thre other distros all fine
[01:19] <JohnFlux> I bought the cheapest no-brand wireless pci card and a wireless pcmcia card
[01:19] <JohnFlux> I plugged them, and ubuntu recognised them both and they both just worked straight away
[01:19] <JohnFlux> very impressive! :)
[01:20] <JohnFlux> it's now easier than windows heh
[01:21] <Fraction> dont know if this question belongs here to please correct me if it does not, but Im having trouble configuring my dual boot
[01:21] <jussi01> Fraction: ask away
[01:24] <Fraction> ok thanks. What I want is to use XP and Kubuntu, but how do I make the XP cd know about the Linux partition? I read somewhere that u need to install win first since is messes up the grub? but the installation just tells me that I dont have a HDD ...
[01:24] <Fraction> also I have tried to partition the entire hdd with ntfs using QParted on the feisty fawn cd
[01:25] <JohnFlux> Fraction: windows does not play nice with linux at all
[01:25] <JohnFlux> Fraction: it won't recognise a linux partition
[01:25] <struct> will the next release of kubuntu have compiz like ubuntu?
[01:26] <JohnFlux> Fraction: you have linux installed, right?
[01:26] <JohnFlux> struct: the next release is a long term release, so no big changes as such
[01:26] <Fraction> well I did.. right now Im running from the installation CD.. and try to partition the HDD so I think the data is kinda corrupt
[01:26] <JohnFlux> Fraction: and you want to now install windows
[01:26] <Fraction> yeah I want to dual boot
[01:26] <JohnFlux> the windows or linux installation cd?
[01:27] <Fraction> linux
[01:27] <JohnFlux> Fraction: and do you have windows installed already?
[01:27] <JohnFlux> struct: you can run compiz in kubuntu though
[01:27] <Fraction> no.. cause if I try to boot using the win cd it tells me I dont have a hdd
[01:27] <JohnFlux> Fraction: is it a sata disk?
[01:27] <Fraction> I even get this problem when I have partitioned the entire hdd as ntfs
[01:27] <Fraction> yeah
[01:28] <JohnFlux> Fraction: windows doesn't support sata
[01:28] <SlimeyPete> XP installer can't see SATA
[01:28] <JohnFlux> Fraction: at installation
[01:28] <SlimeyPete> actually, it does support it
[01:28] <JohnFlux> Fraction: windows doesn't support hardware very well
[01:28] <SlimeyPete> but the graphical installer doesn't
[01:28] <SlimeyPete> you can use the recovery console
[01:28] <SlimeyPete> and use fdisk to manually configure the partitions. Then it works.
[01:28] <Fraction> ahh thanks, will try that
[01:28] <JohnFlux> Fraction: hopefully one day windows will have as good as hardware support as linux :-D
[01:29] <JohnFlux> then it will be ready for the desktop :-D
[01:29] <Fraction> haha yeah
[01:29] <Fraction> dont want windows but wine doesnt seem to support my video card
[01:29] <JohnFlux> Fraction: an alternative, and I loathe to mention it, is to use vista instead
[01:29] <Fraction> heh no thanks
[01:29] <Fraction> It took me longer time to startup vista the first time, than to reformat the hdd install and burn kubuntu and start it
[01:30] <Fraction> it was the os that was preinstalled on the comp
[01:30] <JohnFlux> Fraction: you can probably google for installing xp on sata
[01:30] <JohnFlux> Fraction: get windows installed first, then put linux on
[01:30] <JohnFlux> Fraction: i think you can get windows install to not use all the disk
[01:31] <JohnFlux> Fraction: that will minimise your problems I think
[01:31] <Fraction> alright, thanks alot for your help!
[01:32] <wers> i just inserted a cd to my drive but kubuntu did not react. I cannot see the CD icon on the desktop nor on my media:/. why is it like that?
[01:33] <JohnFlux> wers: at the risk of insulting you, but you didn't insert a dvd into a cd drive right? :)
[01:33] <JohnFlux> wers: do any other cd's work?
[01:34] <JohnFlux> wers: I once had to reboot to get it to recognise a cd
[01:34] <wers> i just inserted an ordinary cd and it is on the right drive. it's okay. you're helping me.. i wasnt insulted.. other cds dont work too
[01:35] <wers> i too, have to reboot for cds to be recognized
[01:35] <wers> it happens to me often
[01:41] <Ross154> anyone tell me  how yo make the scanbuttond -r 1000000 command resident. so it autoruns at bootup pls ?
[01:43] <JohnFlux> Ross154: echo  "scanbuttond -r 1000000  &" > /etc/rc2.d/S99scanbuttond
[01:44] <JohnFlux> Ross154: I think that would work
[01:44] <JohnFlux> Ross154: quick and nasty :)
[01:44] <Ross154> lol
[01:44] <Ross154> ta
[01:44] <JohnFlux> Ross154: need to run that as root
[01:44] <Ross154> k
[01:48] <jussi01> how do i adjust page orientation in scribus?
[02:02] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[02:03] <Jakoavain> Hiii :)
[02:03] <fabrizio> hi
[02:03] <BluesKaj> !hi | Jakoavain
[02:03] <ubotu> Jakoavain: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:04] <Jakoavain> God damn it :/ Been without sounds for 2days, as long as I've had Kubuntu :)
[02:05] <Jakoavain> Google for teh win
[02:06] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[02:07] <Jakoavain> Been there done that :/ Mixer cannot be found
[02:07] <Jakoavain> The whole comp doesn't  reconize I have a soundcard
[02:08] <Jakoavain> I've been using the satanistic windows for 4years, so be gentle to me
[02:09] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, we'd better check that first, in the terminal type: lspci | grep audio
[02:09] <Jakoavain> 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: ALi Corporation M5455 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device (rev 20)
[02:09] <Jakoavain> Without music for 2days, I feel like shit 8D
[02:10] <BluesKaj> sudo asoundconf list
[02:11] <Jakoavain> Names of available sound cards:
[02:11] <Jakoavain> Nothing :/
[02:12] <Jakoavain> I'll go to get something to eat, I'll be right back
[02:13] <BluesKaj> well Jakoavain, you need to search for the linux driver for your soundcard and install it.
[02:15] <Jakoavain> Okey, I already have one
[02:15] <Jakoavain> And, I don't know, should I unzip it and then open with konsole, or what?
[02:18] <BluesKaj> what's the file extn .. zip ?
[02:20] <emilsedgh> JuKaterssi: is that a package, or source? there should be a README or INSTALL file
[02:20] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, for linux it should be tar.gz or bz2 id it's a compressed file
[02:20] <JuKaterssi> huh? what? huh?
[02:20] <BluesKaj> id=if
[02:21] <Jakoavain> BluesKaj: sorry for the windowslike ".zip" =D Yeah, it's tar.gz
[02:21] <Jakoavain> JuKaterssi: I think he ment me
[02:21] <JuKaterssi> tsk tsk... :)
[02:22] <CheshireKot> connection tests
[02:22] <CheshireKot> approved
[02:22] <CheshireKot> hi, I'n with you!
[02:23] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, then in the Konsole : tar -xvf nameoffile.tar.gz...usually if you right click on properties and select the name (selectall) copy andpaste it to the Konsole , that will work
[02:27] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, that creates a Folde rand readme and other files in the folder..readmes and install text files usually give inatallation instructions
[02:27] <CheshireKot>            !
[02:27] <jussi01> !ru | CheshireKot
[02:27] <ubotu> CheshireKot:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[02:28] <BluesKaj> !ru
[02:28] <wers> Will kde4 require higher hardware specifications?
[02:28] <CheshireKot> !ru
[02:28] <BluesKaj> dunno wers
[02:28] <emilsedgh> wers: no
[02:28] <emilsedgh> wers: even, maybe less than KDE3, and faster :)
[02:28] <wers> wow
[02:29] <wers> yeah.. that may be because of the latest qt
[02:29] <BluesKaj> we hope
[02:29] <emilsedgh> wers: kdelibs, too :)\
[02:29] <Jakoavain> Blueskaj, okey thx. I'll try if it works :)
[02:30] <JuKaterssi> wers: higher hardware spec? no. it ain't vista :)
[02:30] <wers> hahaha
[02:31] <wers> i think, i will just have to disable some features for my hardware to work fine with it
[02:31] <wers> features like the new eye candies that come with kwin
[02:32] <CheshireKot> wers: I'm not shure there'll be any reason to disable any features
[02:32] <JuKaterssi> wers: those will deactive themselves if it detects that the hardware doesn't support it
[02:32] <JuKaterssi> besides, the compositing features are not enabled by default
[02:32] <JuKaterssi> and purely optional. like the way it is in KDE 3 right now
[02:33] <wers> ohh.. so there would be something like the kpersonalizer in kde 3
[02:33] <JuKaterssi> dunno if it's ported to KDE 4... but kpersonalizer is just a wizard. :)
[02:33] <jeffm> HI, all.  Stupid question here.  I would like to install Pidgin (not GAIM) on a new install of Feisty, but I don't see pidgin in the software list.  Looking online, like at getdeb shows .debs for pidgin and I can certainly install them manually.  But I'd really like them available through apt-get (would that get Pidgin automagically updated by adept updater?)
[02:33] <JuKaterssi> you should read the last page of kpersonalizer
[02:34] <bluesmandm> .
[02:34] <wers> jeffm, get a deb from getdeb.net
[02:34] <wers> i guess, pidgin is not in the repos
[02:34] <JuKaterssi> !pidgin
[02:34] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[02:34] <JuKaterssi> the release of pidgin didn't make it to Feisty's release
[02:34] <jeffm> So I guess my question is 2-part.  First, would adding a repository with pidgin get it automatically updated, and does getdeb have some sort of repository I can add?
[02:35] <wers> nope.. no repo from getdeb
[02:35] <wers> i guess, you will have to update manually on feisty
[02:35] <jeffm> OK.  So if I want Pidgin, I'm looking at a manual install (again, I have no problem with this -- I'm just addicted to automatic updates.)
[02:36] <knulfine> can someone give me the link for the geman channel?
[02:36] <BluesKaj> jeffm, in order to enable more repos check out source-o-matic
[02:36] <CheshireKot> #ubuntu-ger
[02:36] <knulfine> thanks
[02:36] <CheshireKot> *maybe)))
[02:37] <knulfine> no
[02:37] <JuKaterssi> !de | knulfine
[02:37] <ubotu> knulfine: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:37] <CheshireKot> russian channel is ubuntu-ru
[02:37] <CheshireKot> o! ubuntu-de then
[02:37] <JuKaterssi> jeffm: if you can wait for a month, Gutsy will be coming out, with Pidgin
[02:37] <knulfine> ubotu thanks
[02:37] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic | jeffm
[02:37] <ubotu> jeffm: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:37] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:38] <CheshireKot> bots are people too! I'm for equal rights for bots!)))
[02:38] <jeffm> K, all.  Thanks.  I look forward to Gutsy.  And maybe in the span of a month, I won't need a manual update anyway.
[02:40] <BluesKaj> hmm ,pidgin not in the repos ....that's surprising
[02:41] <enoj> BluesKaj: try gaim
[02:41] <sander_> hi!
[02:41] <sander_> I've got some problems with the KNetworkManager..
[02:42] <sander_> I set it to manual configuration once.. and now I can't get it back to the initial state
[02:42] <sander_> For instance I now never see that list of availible wireless routers in the dialog anymore...
[02:43] <Jakoavain> So the instructionsmanual says copy files to the "/usr/src/linux/drivers/sound" The only thing is that, theres only usr/src then it comes 4different linux-headers folders, and one ALSA folder? Really weird
[02:44] <sander_> To be short I want to revert back to the zeroconfig settings... any idea how I should do this?
[02:45] <BluesKaj> enoj, msn in kopete works for me ... seldom use the IMs anyway
[02:47] <combinio> on debian installing xserver-xgl is same like on (k)ubuntu ?? :]
[02:47] <combinio> ( to have beryl )
[02:47] <enoj> BluesKaj: i said gaim because pidgin = gaim
[02:53] <sander_> Can someone at least tell me where I can remove the current settings of this KNetworkManager?
[02:53] <sander_> .kde doesn't seem to contain it... :(
[02:54] <Lynoure> sander_: stuff like passphrases are kept in kwallet
[02:54] <SlimeyPete> sander_: dpkg --reconfigure knetworkmanager      ?
[02:56] <Lynoure> yes, reconfigure works for the other parts.
[02:56] <sander_> Lynoure: nothing is stored in kwallet (no passphrases)
[02:56] <sander_> I'll reconfigure..
[02:56] <sander_> tnx!
[02:56] <Jakoavain> BluesKaj: Here?
[02:56] <Lynoure> sander_: yes it is, if you let it.
[02:56] <BluesKaj> yup
[02:57] <Lynoure> sander_: unless you have some weird new version that stores them elsewhere...
[02:57] <Jakoavain> Do you know what to do ? :)
[02:57] <sander_> Lynoure: I mean that I don't use passphrases so they're not stored there :)
[02:57] <Lynoure> sander_: oh, ok :)
[02:57] <sander_> passphrases are an illusion of security :)
[02:58] <Lynoure> sander_: I so disagree with you there. 64 character random passphrase on WPA makes a whole lot of difference over open wlan in terms of who gets in and how fasn
[02:58] <Lynoure> s/fasn/fast
[02:59] <sander_> wpa is a bit better but I've used some well known techniques to use some WEP 'secured' within minutes
[02:59] <Lynoure> sander_: WEP is obselete
[02:59] <sander_> true
[03:00] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, at what stage are you in the install or is it finished?
[03:01] <sander_> sander@san-ubuntu-laptop:~$ dpkg --reconfigure knetworkmanager
[03:01] <sander_> dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[03:01] <sami> onko kelln radeon nyttist tll?
[03:01] <Jakoavain> [15:43]  <Jakoavain> So the instructionsmanual says copy files to the "/usr/src/linux/drivers/sound" The only thing is that, theres only usr/src then it comes 4different linux-headers folders, and one ALSA folder? Really weird
[03:01] <BluesKaj> !fi | sami
[03:01] <ubotu> sami: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[03:01] <sami> oho
[03:02] <sander_> ah it is: sudo dpkg-reconfigure knetworkmanager
[03:03] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, check again, are you sure those instructions are for Kubuntu ?
[03:03] <Jakoavain> Yeah, that could be the reason.. that their not for kubuntu. My friend gave the url for this one
[03:04] <BluesKaj> aha
[03:04] <sergio> hello
[03:04] <BluesKaj> !hello | sergio
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <BluesKaj> hehe
[03:05] <BluesKaj> !hi | sergio
[03:05] <ubotu> sergio: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:05] <sergio> how are you?
[03:05] <BluesKaj> we are fine, do you have a question, sergio ?
[03:05] <hydrogen> !splash
[03:05] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[03:05] <hydrogen> !bootsplash
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <Jucato> hydrogen: what yah looking for?
[03:06] <sergio> why?
[03:06] <hydrogen> Jucato: the command to run after switching the image on bootsplash with update-alternatives
[03:06] <Jucato> usplash?
[03:06] <Jucato> oh wait
[03:06] <Jucato> !usplash
[03:06] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[03:06] <hydrogen> yea
[03:06] <hydrogen> thats it!
[03:07] <sander_> damn reconfiguration of the KNetworkManager keeps the same manual configuration....
[03:07] <Anarch> Gnome boots into 1280x1024 but KDE goes to 1024x768.  KDE applets can't change the resolution; it has to be done outside X, but not in xorg.conf AFAIK.  Where does KDE store it?  This is an Intel 965 chipset & I have the new intel driver installed under Feisty.
[03:08] <Jakoavain> ALi 5451 audio driver for linux kernel 2.4.X
[03:08] <Jakoavain> That's the one BluesKaj
[03:10] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, did you untar the file ?
[03:11] <Jakoavain> I wrote thing in the konsole, as you said. Then the console show'd me a list of files It contained.
[03:11] <Jakoavain> But I had already untarred in my desktop
[03:11] <sergio> good bye
[03:11] <Jakoavain> Cya :)
[03:11] <tim> I heard there was a google earth type thing for KDE, anyone know if its available for fiesty?
[03:12] <ubunturos> tim: may be it is in KDE 4
[03:12] <ubunturos> called Marble
[03:12] <Jucato> it's not really a Google Earth for KDE :)
[03:13] <BluesKaj> ok cd to the folder on your desktop or move the folder to /home/yourname , cuz the konsole defaults to that directory ...that way you save having to type longpath names when trying to compile and install apps
[03:13] <emilsedgh> Jucato: I hope it will, sometime, what happened on KML support?
[03:13] <Jucato> !info marble
[03:13] <ubotu> marble: generic geographical map widget. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-2 (feisty), package size 153 kB, installed size 456 kB
[03:13] <Jucato> dunno... haven't followed marble's development lately
[03:14] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, a hint when DLing files, always DL to the /home/yourname directory
[03:18] <garfield_> !flash
[03:18] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:18] <Jakoavain> Okey, It's in the folder now :) Maybe I'll remember that one, in the future ;D
[03:20] <Jakoavain> BluesKaj:  So, if that is for ubuntu, isn't it possible to use it on ubuntu?
[03:20] <Jakoavain> kubuntu*
[03:20] <pikkuhukka> :o
[03:21] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, yes you can use it , just install it like I said earlier
[03:23] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, that untar command created a folder with readmes and install text files, which usually give installation instructions
[03:24] <Jakoavain> Blueskaj, yes it has the installation guide, but still the folder it says; doesn't exists
[03:24] <BluesKaj> ok cd to the folder on your desktop or move the folder to /home/yourname , cuz the konsole defaults to that directory ...that way you save having to type longpath names when trying to compile and install apps
[03:26] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, cd foldername ...look at the folder properties to get the exact name first
[03:32] <Jakoavain> Yeah, but which one of these is the correct folder cuz all 4of them has the drivers folder in it.
[03:32] <BluesKaj> 4 folders?
[03:32] <Jakoavain> Linux-headers
[03:32] <BluesKaj> readme
[03:33] <Jakoavain> It says "linux"
[03:33] <Jakoavain> Not anything else
[03:33] <Jakoavain> "First of all, copy trident.c and trident.h to /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound"
[03:35] <BluesKaj> is there a "configure" or "make" file in the folder ?
[03:35] <BluesKaj> or "install" ?
[03:35] <tim> just a quick report back on the marble thing: version 0.2 (2 versions behind) is in fiesty. however the ap only plots town locations and is not a map program comparable to google earth
[03:36] <Jakoavain> No, only readme and the tridents
[03:36] <Jucato> tim: Marble wasn't created to be a google earth for KDE :)
[03:37] <Jucato> so naturally it won't be comparable to google earth
[03:37] <Jakoavain> Maybe I need the kernel development package installed :D
[03:38] <Jucato> tim: http://edu.kde.org/marble/
[03:39] <tim> jucato: I know that now
[03:40] <mrksbrd> i need help installing adobe tar file!!!!
[03:41] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, open kate ..alt+F2, then your password , then,  kdesu kate /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound"
[03:41] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.7
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.7 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <BluesKaj> !tar | mrksbrd
[03:42] <mrksbrd> !adobe
[03:42] <ubotu> mrksbrd: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <genii> !info kde feisty
[03:42] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (feisty), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[03:42] <mrksbrd> !tar
[03:42] <genii> !info kdelibs feisty
[03:42] <ubotu> kdelibs: core libraries from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu14.1 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 92 kB
[03:42] <genii> hmm
[03:45] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, then, copy trident.c and trident.h to /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound"...dunno if it will work but I guess it's worth a try
[03:47] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, drop the " at the end of the /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound file
[03:51] <mattperry1976> I'm needing some help getting VirtualBox setup with Kubuntu gutsy host and XP guest...cannot get USB to be recognized in guest...
[03:52] <mattperry1976> I have setup usbusers etc like all the forums seem to suggest, however still no luck...anyone have any sucess with this?
[03:52] <Jakoavain> Why should I open kate, if the alt+f2 opens run command? :p
[03:54] <mrksbrd> ok un tar'd the adobe file, will not let me run the install file!!!!!!!!!
[03:54] <BluesKaj> you open kate in the run command with your password so you have permission to edit the file in kate , like adding files
[03:55] <Ace2016> Hi all i just found this: http://www.kubuntu-art.org/
[03:55] <Ace2016> never knew that existed
[03:56] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, if you don't open kate with permission , it won't save it with the added files
[03:56] <Ace2016> maybe it should be added to the chanel topic
[03:59] <BluesKaj> yeah Ace2016, but i havw aquestion about all the really dark themes in the wallpapers ...too much "gamerz murky mind garbage" appeal in those pics
[03:59] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:59] <Jakoavain> BluesKaj: One thing, how about the kernel modify package ? Sorry if I'm annoying you but this kind of compthings aren't made for me :D
[04:01] <BluesKaj> dunno Jakoavain, depends on your kernel , that's bit beyond my scope
[04:02] <BluesKaj> genii, .. you there ?
[04:02] <mattperry1976> does anyone know how to find out what your usb "path" is?
[04:03] <genii> back
[04:03] <genii> BluesKaj: Yeah now I am LOL
[04:04] <BluesKaj> mattperry1976, look in storage media , if your usb drive is there , click on it then copy the location from the addressbar ...i think that's what you need
[04:05] <BluesKaj> hey genii ...we nedd to know whether Jakoavain, needs to install a kernel modify package, for his audio drivers ?
[04:05] <mattperry1976> BluesKaj: it is not listed there..but it shows up when I do lsusb...any ideas?
[04:06] <BluesKaj> ok mattperry1976 , do a konqeror locate
[04:06] <genii> scrolling up to catch up on Jakoavain situation
[04:07] <genii> Jakoavain: to find what kernel you are using, do: uname -r           then you know which of the 4 you need
[04:08] <Jakoavain> Yeah, 2.6.20-16-generic
[04:08] <linuxmce> any ideas what to do when firefox want close
[04:09] <The_Machine> use xkill :P
[04:09] <genii> Jakoavain: So the headers or so that you want to modify/copy etc for the driver to compile are in that one if it exists there.
[04:10] <genii> Jakoavain: You already installed some things for the compiling part like package build-essential I hope :)
[04:11] <Doctor_Nick> im gonna headbutt your face
[04:11] <Doctor_Nick> *bam*
[04:13] <erich__> i'm having trouble getting my netgear wireless adapter to work in kubuntu
[04:13] <Jakoavain> I haven't done anything yet, :P This whole thing was put together by my linuxuserfriend :D
[04:13] <thomas__> how do I download stuff once I connect with putty ?
[04:14] <SlimeyPete> you don't. You need to use samba, pscp or winscp for that
[04:14] <erich__> download to the computer you're connected to or to the computer you're connected from?
[04:14] <SlimeyPete> (winscp is easiest)
[04:14] <thomas__> I'm connecting to a computer
[04:15] <erich__> right, do you want to download something to that computer. or do you want to download something from that computer?
[04:15] <thomas__> from
[04:15] <erich__> not sure how to do that. Slimey says you have to use a different program
[04:16] <thomas__> kk
[04:16] <thomas__> SlimeyPete: i'm sure you can download stuff in the terminal though right
[04:17] <SlimeyPete> thomas__: not using putty.
[04:17] <m00foo> thomas__: you can use good old z-modem
[04:17] <m00foo> thomas__: rz / sz .
[04:17] <SlimeyPete> thomas__: pscp is the putty file-transfer app, and it's free, as is winscp
[04:18] <m00foo> (afair putty supports zmodem .. havent used it for years though ;)
[04:18] <mattperry1976> BluesKaj: how do I do a konqeror locate?
[04:18] <m00foo> but scp is the saner way ;)
[04:19] <benluo> hi
[04:21] <mattperry1976> BluesKaj: I'm trying to use minicom etc and I don't know what path to use to send/recv to a specific usb serial port etc...
[04:21] <Doctor_Nick> :D
[04:24] <genii> hmm
[04:24] <SlimeyPete> run out of coffee?
[04:24] <genii> Almost :)
[04:25] <genii> SlimeyPete: Waiting for the Benadryl to kick in, have horrible allergy reaction this morning
[04:26] <maverick_> does anyone know of any linux bandwidth shaper, that would let me increase or decrease the rate lively without needing to restart the app like TRICKLE requires
[04:26] <maverick_> ?
[04:27] <maverick_> Just like NETLIMITER odes in windows
[04:27] <maverick_> does*
[04:34] <mattperry1976> I'm trying to use minicom and cannot figure out the "Serial Device Path" for a specific usb port...anyone know how to figure this out if the usb port does not show as 'media' etc...it does show up in lsusb list?
[04:35] <garfield> :/
[04:36] <garfield> i cant get true to view flash on youtube.i install flash nonfree but the videos still dont play
[04:36] <Arkygeek> hi  where did all the printer drivers go?  specifically my epson stylus photo r220 ?????
[04:38] <erich__> thomas__: did you figure it out?
[04:38] <erich__> thomas__: i figured out how to do it from the terminal if that's what you want
[04:39] <thomas__> erich__: yes, i haven't tried again yet because I ate bk
[04:39] <thomas__> erich__: what command is it?
[04:39] <thomas__> erich__: i thought it was GET
[04:40] <erich__> thomas__: i use scp
[04:40] <erich__> thomas__: only works from linux to linux though. otherwise you have to get winscp
[04:41] <erich__> thomas__: but for example: scp -r darkstar@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/darkstar/Desktop/randomstuff /home/erich/Desktop
[04:41] <erich__> thomas__: that will copy that folder to my desktop
[04:42] <thomas__> erich__: from a linux machine to your windows machine
[04:43] <erich__> thomas__: that's from linux to linux
[04:43] <erich__> thomas__: from linux to windows, you're going to need to get winscp
[04:44] <thomas__> erich__: i got putty
[04:45] <garfield> thomas__: try type in konqueror "smb://ip.of.xpmachine/ " if your linux is allready conected to your xp machine
[04:45] <erich__> thomas__: i've never used winscp so i don't know how it works
[04:46] <erich__> garfield: he's trying to grab files off his linux machine and put them on his windows machine
[04:46] <Jakoavain> genii and Blueskaj, thx for helping me :) I'll need to try it later, if I can, but now I'll have to go. Cya dudes!
[04:46] <garfield> erich__: oh the other way aorund lol
[04:46] <genii> Jakoavain: See you later
[04:47] <erich__> garfield: yeah
[04:47] <erich__> garfield: i only know how to do from linux to linux
[04:48] <garfield> erich__:ok
[04:49] <genii> Finally, i think the allergy medicine is kicking in
[04:49] <radius> guess you'll be falling asleep soon (;
[04:49] <radius> or space out for the rest of the time it's in your system
[04:50] <genii> radius: Hopefully not...that's why I always have lots of coffee around :)
[04:50] <radius> oh 2 negative forces
[04:50] <genii> Jucato: If that happens I'll have to commit hari kari or else switch to that new caffeine gum LOL
[04:51] <radius> the only allergy med i can take is the one that's lactose free and that causes drowsiness
[04:51] <Jucato> hari kiri
[04:51] <genii> Jucato: Thx, didn't know was spelt that way
[04:51] <Jucato> at least you'll know before you do it :)
[04:51] <genii> Heh, yeah
[04:52] <Jucato> or better yet. you can ask me to do it for you
[04:52] <kkathman> do any of you know of a news aggregator that allows a "list" of topics to be submitted?
[04:52] <thomas__> garfield: whats smb
[04:53] <Jucato> !smb
[04:53] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:53] <garfield> thomas__: samba
[04:53] <kkathman> all the ones I've seen are just news feed organizers with, at best, single search topic capability
[04:53] <genii> Server Message Block, or samba for a cute name
[04:54] <garfield> thomas__: if u install smb make shore u are connected behind a firewall.either people can find your pc easly to try to control it :D
[04:54] <Jucato> smb... San Miguel Beer :)
[04:55] <genii> thomas__: You can set up a samba shared directory in kubuntu by: K ..System Settings...Sharing
[04:56] <thomas__> k
[04:59] <genii> thomas__: I normally make a user for samba called smbuser. Then whatever directory is shared to outside is owned by that user, and in the config file i map the username guest or bad usernames to it.
[05:00] <dyker> fuck you
[05:00] <mattperry1976> does anyone have experience with 'minicom'?
[05:01] <xp_killer> its silent around heree
[05:02] <xp_killer> mattperry1976: wat is minicom?
[05:02] <mattperry1976> xp_killer: it is a direct serial client...for using zmodem etc
[05:03] <xp_killer> mattperry1976: wats a zmodem? its not a normal modem?
[05:04] <erich__> how do i find out what drivers i need to use with ndiswrapper to get my netgear wireless adapter to work?
[05:04] <mattperry1976> xp_killer: it's like the old school file transfer service etc
[05:05] <erich__> anyone?
[05:05] <stdin> erich__: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[05:06] <synteth> hi!
[05:08] <emilsedgh> !hi | synteth
[05:08] <ubotu> synteth: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:09] <trzcionek> Hi, I need something to RSS on desktop...
[05:11] <emilsedgh> trzcionek: you need an rss reader? Akregator is nice, also there are some Karamba's
[05:11] <stdin> trzcionek: look on kde-look.org I'm sure there are superkaramba applets for it (you'll need to install superkaramba too I think)
[05:13] <mattperry1976> I am trying to find the serial path for use with zmodem in kubuntu...
[05:13] <erich__> how do i find the usbid for my wireless adapter?
[05:15] <stdin> erich__: lsusb
[05:16] <erich__> stdin: doesn't show it because i guess it doesn't recognize the device
[05:17] <stdin> it _should_ show the vendor-id:device-id even if it doesn't recognise it I think
[05:19] <BluesKaj> gents , I've compiled, installed and run pidgin , but i prefer kopete , so how does one uninstall a complied application?
[05:20] <stdin> BluesKaj: if you installed with "sudo make install" you normally do "sudo make uninstall"
[05:20] <genii> BluesKaj: make clean or make dist-clean
[05:20] <genii> (if uninstall is not in makefile)
[05:21] <BluesKaj> cool , thx , stdin, genii :)
[05:21] <BluesKaj> checking
[05:22] <genii> mattperry1976: does /dev/ttyusb0  exist?
[05:22] <genii> oops maybe wrong person
[05:22] <Doctor_Nick> MATTHEW PERRY I LOVE YOU
[05:23] <Doctor_Nick> SIGN MY ASS
[05:23] <genii> someone had a usb modem they wanted to know path for device, iirc
[05:23] <Jucato> !caps | Doctor_Nick
[05:23] <ubotu> Doctor_Nick: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:23] <Jucato> !language | Doctor_Nick
[05:23] <ubotu> Doctor_Nick: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:24] <brad_> hey
[05:24] <brad_> so I was messing with my monitor settings, and now my splash screen is a lower resolution
[05:24] <mattperry1976> genii: when I try to load that path in dolphin I get error mssg that it does not exist
[05:24] <Doctor_Nick> i am, of course, talking about my pet mule
[05:25] <brad_> like it doesnt show all of the Nvidia splash logo
[05:25] <brad_> any idea where to change that resolution back to a normal size?
[05:25] <brad_> (when I change it in my profile it does not effect the login screen)
[05:25] <genii> mattperry1976: OK
[05:25] <jhutchins> Doctor_Nick: mule != ass
[05:25] <Jucato> Doctor_Nick: regardless. you have been warned
[05:25] <sleon> hi people
[05:25] <jhutchins> Doctor_Nick: mule == ass/donkey x horse
[05:26] <sleon> i want to upgrade from ubuntu base to kubntu
[05:26] <sleon> i need sources.list
[05:26] <Doctor_Nick> oh no, not warned!
[05:26] <sleon> can you tell me where to get recent repositories for the kubuntu ?
[05:26] <jhutchins> Jucato: sorry, need coffee
[05:26] <stdin> sleon: no you don't, just install kubuntu-desktop package
[05:26] <sleon> repositories list
[05:26] <jhutchins> !easysources | sleon
[05:26] <ubotu> sleon: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:26] <xero_server> who do i ask about vmware problems and kubuntu?
[05:26] <BluesKaj> yup , stdin , "sudo make uninstall" ,did the trick :)
[05:26] <stdin> sleon: ubuntu and kubuntu use the same sources
[05:26] <sleon> stdin: so you use the same repos as ubuntu does ?
[05:26] <sleon> stdin: thenk you very much :)))
[05:26] <Jucato> sleon: yes
[05:26] <jhutchins> sleon: As stdin says, though, the same repos have kubuntu already.
[05:27] <sleon> thats very cool :)))
[05:27] <sleon> thank you guys
[05:27] <Jucato> Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Mythbuntu, Ubuntustudio
[05:27] <stdin> BluesKaj: that's why I tend to package my compiles, easy to remove them :)
[05:27] <thomas__> so what do you guys think is the best ssh client for windows?
[05:27] <jhutchins> thomas__: putty
[05:27] <BluesKaj> right stdin, makes sense :)
[05:27] <Jucato> BluesKaj: or you can use --prefix=somewhere_you_have_user_access
[05:28] <jhutchins> thomas__: It's pretty much the only one, because it does the job.
[05:28] <Jucato> BluesKaj: and separate src, build, and install directories for cleaner compiles and installaiton
[05:28] <Jucato> installation*
[05:28] <jthomas> thomas__: putty for sure, or install Cygwin I guess
[05:28] <thomas__> jthomas: putty is just terminal though?
[05:28] <BluesKaj> Jucato, i just cd 'd to the folder did the uninstall
[05:29] <jhutchins> thomas__: what do you want?
[05:29] <jthomas> thomas__: well... it can do telnet and a few other things, but I don't think it can forward X... but SSH is generally terminal, so yes I guess so..
[05:29] <Jucato> BluesKaj: yeah, but  you had to use sudo, and probably it installed into system directories... but anyway...
[05:30] <mattperry1976> genii: that is the format of path that I'm looking for, I just can't seem to find that path for a usb port...I'm trying to setup a zmodem via minicom...
[05:30] <thomas__> jthomas: i tried using "ssh user@domain" method and it so much hassle
[05:30] <xero> !bot
[05:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:30] <BluesKaj> well Jucato , just happy to be rid of it ...din't see it with konq locate so i assumed it wasn't in the systen dirs
[05:30] <thomas__> jthomas: finding the directory names using scp
[05:30] <xero> !vmware
[05:30] <genii> mattperry1976: What is the make and model of your usb modem? May be different tty name
[05:30] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:31] <Jucato> BluesKaj: locate needs to be updated for it to locate new stuff :)
[05:31] <xero> !virtualizers
[05:31] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[05:31] <Jucato> BluesKaj: it's like desktop indexing/search like Beagle/Kerry, but less automatic
[05:31] <BluesKaj> ok
[05:31] <jthomas> thomas__: hassle how?  yes scp can be difficult to find directory names.  Try using SFTP, its easier, and Windows has FileZilla for a graphical SFTP
[05:31] <beans> be careful with vmware-player,  it phones home
[05:31] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update konqueror ?
[05:31] <jthomas> beans: it does?!
[05:31] <jthomas> how do you know?
[05:32] <beans> wireshark
[05:32] <jthomas> of course
[05:32] <jthomas> whay does it do that?
[05:32] <jthomas> which port?
[05:32] <Jucato> BluesKaj: no. sudo updatedb to update locate's database/index
[05:32] <jhutchins> thomas__: You can store profiles if you need something more WIMPy.
[05:33] <thomas__> what about winscp
[05:33] <mattperry1976> genii: it shows up when I use lsusb...it shows up looking like "Bus 004 Device 004: ID 9710:7703 MosChip Semiconductor"
[05:33] <genii> OK 1 minute
[05:34] <jhutchins> thomas__: You're really asking for information on Windows clients for accessing real systems, ##windows might be more help.
[05:34] <thomas__> jthomas: I just want to be able to transfer some files remotely from thsi computer to another. Is Putty much better or really different that Winscp
[05:35] <genii> bah vendorID 9710 deviceID 7703 does not seem to exist :/   LOL
[05:36] <SlimeyPete> thomas__: that's like saying "is this Ferrari a better car than this potato?" :) Putty and Winscp do different things. Putty is not a file transfer program.
[05:38] <erich__> thomas__: puTTy and winscp do different things as far as i understand
[05:38] <jthomas> thomas__: I don't know anything about Winscp, try asking in #windows
[05:39] <erich__> thomas__: you can use puTTy to ssh to your linux machine and browse the filesystem/control that computer. you use Winscp just to snag files off of it
[05:39] <thomas__> erich__: ohhh
[05:40] <thomas__> erich__: do you know if windows comes with scp
[05:40] <jhutchins> putty includes scp/sftp functions.
[05:40] <erich__> thomas__: i'm pretty sure you need to download winscp
[05:40] <thomas__> erich__: linux does right, so I could putty into my linux machine and use integrated scp
[05:40] <jhutchins> thomas__: Why are you asking these questions in #kubuntu?
[05:40] <thomas__> jhutchins: ok sorry
[05:40] <SlimeyPete> thomas__: windows doesn't come with scp
[05:40] <SlimeyPete> .
[05:41] <erich__> thomas__: i don't know a whole lot about windows. i just use it to play video games these days
[05:41] <jhutchins> Windows does not play nice with other OSs.
[05:41] <thomas__> jhutchins: i don't know any other channels :D
[05:41] <jhutchins> thomas__: Ah.  As several of us said, ##windows
[05:41] <jhutchins> (A decent client will open the channel if you double-click that highlighted word.)
[05:46] <mattperry1976> genii: sorry got booted from the net...took a sec to reconnect...
[05:47] <jthomas> thomas__: type '/join ##windows"
[05:49] <genii> mattperry1976: np,didn't miss much :)
[05:50] <Baccilus> ;p
[05:50] <Baccilus> hello
[05:50] <Baccilus> i need some help?
[05:50] <Baccilus> Sysinfo for 'Underground': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at 1000 MHz (3994 bogomips), , RAM: 699/1010MB, 156 proc's, 31.33min up
[05:50] <jhutchins> xp_killer: well, that'll certainly teach us a lesson...
[05:51] <emilsedgh> Baccilus: go on, if someone knows about your problem, will help
[05:51] <Jucato> !ask | Baccilus
[05:51] <ubotu> Baccilus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:51] <xp_killer> lol
[05:51] <Baccilus> something is running wrong with my Kubuntu.I have a dual-core 2.0 Ghz and is so slow..
[05:51] <Baccilus> ;p
[05:52] <Baccilus> i guess i might did something wrong
[05:52] <Baccilus> i came again here and asked
[05:52] <Jucato> O.o why the fork is my swap being used?
[05:52] <stdin> xp_killer: you do know that everyone in here are volunteers? and that you aren't entitled expect *any* level of help...
[05:53] <Baccilus> is there anyway i find out why is this?
[05:53] <xp_killer> stdin: ok
[05:53] <genii> mattperry1976: On the sticker or so on the modem itseld, what exactly does it say it's called?
[05:53] <jhutchins> Baccilus: It's a little tough for a new user, but take a look at top in a console, see what's using resources.
[05:54] <Baccilus> i have 156 proc's
[05:54] <Baccilus> but again
[05:54] <Baccilus> what can be wrong
[05:54] <Baccilus> the last time i installed Ubuntu.. it was so fast.
[05:54] <Baccilus> ;p
[05:54] <Baccilus> now it's slow
[05:54] <BluesKaj> Baccilus, pls don't use the enter for punctuation
[05:55] <Baccilus> hm
[05:55] <genii> Hmm no ping on mattperry1976
[05:55] <Baccilus> I have to say that im sure this is not normal even if im new user.
[05:56] <mattperry1976> genii: there is no actual modem...I'm trying to flash an fta viewsat box and it uses zmodem...in windows there was a simple loader that sent the files etc, but now that I'm trying my best to let go of xp, I can't find the path to that port to use in minicom...lol...and I don't want to have to go back to xp etc
[05:56] <Jucato> xp_killer: we have better things to do than that
[05:56] <Baccilus> ur talking about me now? :/
[05:57] <Jucato> but you should stil behave
[05:57] <BluesKaj> no
[05:58] <Baccilus> ok, can you give me some hints what shall i do and i will go through it?
[05:58] <xp_killer> Jucato: lol
[05:58] <genii> mattperry1976: Ah OK.that is much clearer then.
[05:59] <genii> mattperry1976: I need to go do some errands so will be away for a while. But can still pursue this later if you like
[05:59] <mattperry1976> genii: sorry...do you need the id line from lsusb ?...sure, I'll be on...thanks for your time and willingness to help
[06:00] <genii> ok
[06:01] <xp_killer> Jucato: alt+F2 for the run command.when i tye kdesu ... what do i have to type when i'm i gnome?
[06:01] <Jucato> gksudo (or gksu)
[06:02] <stdin> the !kdesu factoid also has that info
[06:02] <BluesKaj> Baccilus, it's very difficult to know what's causing your problem. Is it a new install, did you install some new apps recently ..which apps are slow etc..
[06:02] <xp_killer> Jucato: ok
[06:03] <Jucato> stdin: getting tired are we? :)
[06:03] <stdin> Jucato: nah, but it helps if users know where to get the info if you're not here :p
[06:03] <jhutchins> Baccilus: One thing to do is turn off ipv6
[06:04] <jhutchins> Baccilus: You don't seem to have told us what is slow about your system.
[06:04] <Jucato> hahah :)
[06:04] <xp_killer> lol
[06:04] <jm87> hi
[06:05] <BluesKaj> !hi | jm87
[06:05] <ubotu> jm87: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:05] <Baccilus> BluesKaj: yes it's a new install, i first installed Ubuntu and then installed KDE because i had a problem with installing Kubuntu Dvd.Well is this on your opinion good? RAM: 701/1010MB, 153 proc's > My comp is really slow jhutchins.When i logon it takes about 3 minutes to show me the background and 1-2 minutes to load a program
[06:05] <jhutchins> Ok, slow program loading is a specific.
[06:06] <Dr_willis> What CPU is this?
[06:06] <jm87> how i can configure wine to show me and run windows program like dev c++
[06:06] <jhutchins> Baccilus: first thing i would do is reboot with the command sudo shutdown -F -r now
[06:06] <Baccilus> Dr_willis: CPU<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at 1000 MHz (3994 bogomips)
[06:06] <BluesKaj> jm87, kubuntu feisty
[06:06] <BluesKaj> ?
[06:06] <jm87> yes
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Normally if you install somthing with wine, it normally adds a icon to the menus. Of course with wine. its often BEST to run wine whatever.exe from the termional. to see any error messages, and dependng on the program some wine arguments may be needed.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> So a Intel Core 2, 1 gb ram.. Gee... thats a decent box for linux.
[06:07] <jhutchins> Baccilus: Please try the above and tell us if it helped at all.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Sounds almost like a hard drive/ide/sata/hdma issue
[06:07] <Baccilus> ok
[06:08] <Baccilus> brb
[06:08] <jhutchins> Oh- didn't say what it'll do: reboot and check the disks.
[06:08] <Dr_willis> I wonder if 'dmesg' would be showing any errors or other issues.
[06:08] <jm87> do you know if exist some c++  compiler for linux ?
[06:08] <Jucato> C++ compiler? GCC (g++)
[06:08] <Dr_willis> !info gcc
[06:08] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:09] <Jucato> IDE?  REXX just read about that yesterday
[06:12] <jm87> im going to use c++ for university and on university web site there is wrote that the program is used is dev c++4.9 like  c++ editor i want to know if exist dev c++ version for kubuntu
[06:12] <Dr_willis> I learned it ages ago on my amiga. Still handy for some stuff i do.
[06:13] <AnthraX> ok im back
[06:14] <jm87_> plz answer mw plz
[06:14] <Baccilus> that's how long it took me to reboot and login back again
[06:15] <Baccilus> yes Dr_willis that's what Im wondering..As i first installed Ubuntu before 4 months i was excited of the speed i had.My laptop was working so good..
[06:15] <xp_killer> stdin: i forgot how i install realplayer do i add this "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" to a konsole?because it doesnt say were
[06:16] <xp_killer> sorry
[06:16] <stdin> jm87_: Jucato already did,  KDevelop and Anjuta are both IDEs that can be used to edit c++ code.
[06:16] <Jucato> jm87_: and for simple C++ programming, you can also use Kate
[06:16] <stdin> xp_killer: to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:16] <xp_killer> ok
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Baccilus,  try some live cds yet?
[06:18] <Baccilus> well the cd i installed is the same..
[06:18] <jm87_> and to compile it ho i can
[06:18] <Baccilus> Dr_willis:  maybe there is a problem when i installed KDE ?
[06:19] <Jucato> jm87_: when using Kate? you use the command line. g++ filename.cpp -o executable_filename
[06:19] <Baccilus> ah also i have another problem Dr_willis
[06:19] <stdin> jm87_: I know in kdevelop you can tell it to build it for you, or you can just use g++ from the command line
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Baccilus,  try some OTHER live cds i ment :)
[06:19] <jm87_> ah i undersatnd
[06:19] <Dr_willis> like dsl/puppy/knoppix
[06:19] <Baccilus> ehm
[06:19] <Dr_willis> is this a laptop Baccilus ?
[06:20] <Baccilus> yes
[06:20] <Dr_willis> ick.. could be all sorts of funkyness then. :)
[06:21] <Dr_willis> My old laptop was all confsed  when it came out.. the clocks even ran at 2x normal speeds. :)
[06:21] <Baccilus> ahh that good
[06:22] <jm87_> some one knows the date of sale of new kubuntu relase ?
[06:22] <Baccilus> the last time
[06:22] <Baccilus> i messed up sudo code
[06:22] <Baccilus> :/
[06:22] <arun> hey kids
[06:22] <genii> If you are buying it somewhere you are going to wrong place to get it
[06:22] <Jucato> !gutsy | jm87_
[06:22] <ubotu> jm87_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[06:22] <Baccilus> and messed up all the lappy
[06:23] <Baccilus> sometime i guess i will have it run normally
[06:24] <jm87_> but i have kubuntu7.04 i can update to ubuntu7.10+
[06:26] <Jucato> yum!
[06:26] <Jucato> lumpia! :)
[06:26] <genii> Jucato: The guy at restaurant next door makes me spring rolls every day LOL
[06:27] <Jucato> for free? O.o
[06:28] <genii> Jucato: Free lunch from him on the day I help him with garbage takeout, Thurs. Otherwise not. Yummy tho
[06:28] <Jucato> haha! :)
[06:28] <Jucato> nice kuy
[06:28] <Jucato> er. guy
[06:28] <genii> :)
[06:29] <genii> mattperry1976: Still around ?
[06:29] <mattperry1976> genii: yep
[06:29] <guhhh> helloooooooooo
[06:29] <guhhh> i cant load an app... where can i look for logs related to it? syslog shows me nothing
[06:30] <genii> mattperry1976: OK, maybe if you can pastebin for me results of: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/*
[06:30] <LogicalDash> Sometimes the KDE help center shows up when I turn my touchpad on. That's kind of weird.-
[06:30] <LogicalDash> guhhh, you could try running it in a terminal window
[06:31] <genii> mattperry1976: You know how to use pastebin website, yes?
[06:31] <mattperry1976> genii: no
[06:31] <sergio> hello
[06:31] <genii> !pastebin | mattperry1976
[06:31] <ubotu> mattperry1976: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:32] <genii> mattperry1976: Copy and paste the results of that command into the website. then report back here the URL so can go view it
[06:34] <mattperry1976> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37328/plain/
[06:34] <xp_killer> liu
[06:34] <genii> mattperry1976: OK, looking now
[06:35] <liu> yes, xp_killier
[06:35] <genii> mattperry1976: That is not the output of: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/*       that is the output of the lsusb command.
[06:35] <stdin> guhhh: depends on the app, and _if_ it actually keeps logs
[06:36] <guhhh> stdout thanks
[06:36] <guhhh> lol
[06:36] <guhhh> ;P
[06:36] <genii> mattperry1976: We have got what we can from the lsusb command :) Please post results of the:      ls -l /dev/bus/usb/*         command
[06:36] <guhhh> standart in, standart out
[06:37] <guhhh> pleaaase.
[06:38] <guhhh> ./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:38] <guhhh> :-(
[06:38] <stdin> guhhh: well, looks like you need to install the package with that file in
[06:38] <stdin> !away > Makthus|Away
[06:39] <Jucato> guhhh: install libxcursor-dev
[06:39] <Makthus|Away> ok pardon :)
[06:39] <Makthus|Away> le ferait plus
[06:39] <guhhh> apt-file search libXcursor.so.1
[06:39] <guhhh> apt-file search libXcursor.so.1 ?
[06:39] <Jucato> er
[06:39] <Jucato> libxcursor1
[06:39] <Jucato> sorry. install libxcursor1
[06:39] <stdin> guhhh: well, you can '/msg ubotu find libXcursor.so.1' or look on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ too
[06:40] <mattperry1976> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37329/plain/
[06:40] <xp_killer> stdin: lol bot problems?lol
[06:41] <stdin> xp_killer: no, why ?
[06:41] <thomas__> how do I stop my ssh server?
[06:41] <genii> mattperry1976: Thx, reading
[06:41] <guhhh> /etc/init.d/sshd stop ?
[06:41] <xp_killer> !away
[06:41] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[06:41] <thomas__> guhhh: wow how do u know exactly
[06:42] <xp_killer> oh
[06:42] <guhhh> thomas__: u do this for every service/daemon
[06:42] <Jucato> just ssh (not sshd) I think
[06:42] <stdin> ^ yep
[06:42] <guhhh> i dont remember exactly :P
[06:43] <Jucato> thomas__: most services/daemons can be found in /etc/init.d/
[06:43] <rambo3> do you have any gutsy kde 4 backports ?
[06:43] <rambo3> !info kde4 gutsy
[06:43] <Jucato> rambo3: please read the topic
[06:43] <ubotu> Package kde4 does not exist in gutsy
[06:43] <stdin> rambo3: it's in universe, there are no backports in gutsy
[06:43] <genii> mattperry1976: If you feel like experimenting, you can try /dev/bus/usb/004/002      as the modem device
[06:44] <rambo3> stdin: thanks
[06:44] <thomas__> Jucato: i see......i just used winscp on my windows computer to log in and transfer files using sftp...isn't my server an ftp server?
[06:44] <rambo3> Jucato: not the issue
[06:44] <Jucato> rambo3: what's not the issue?
[06:45] <liu> what happens wiht limewire?,may you give us some information?
[06:45] <Jucato> thomas__: don't really know. sorry
[06:45] <Jucato> !limewire | liu
[06:45] <liu> yes jucato
[06:45] <ubotu> liu: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[06:45] <stdin> thomas__: sftp is not ftp, it used ssh
[06:45] <rambo3> Jucato: just read my question and your answer
[06:45] <thomas__> i mean when you install an ssh server isn't that just ftp over ssh protocol
[06:45] <ackbahr> Hi there! I've got this strange problem; using adept yesterday, I noticed Feisty Fawn was available (cheers!), and I started but then cancelled the upgrade; now, it still tells me there a new distr, but it won't install!
[06:45] <Jucato> rambo3: did you see the last link in the topic?
[06:47] <beojan> Lime wire should not be used
[06:47] <beojan> exit
[06:47] <beojan> ed
[06:47] <beojan> kk
[06:47] <beojan> kk
[06:47] <beojan> kk
[06:48] <Jucato> ugh! you do it stdin...
[06:48] <mattperry1976> genii: sorry didn't work...
[06:48] <neptunafish> Is there a way to recover a printed document? I didn't save it, and I lost the hard copy...
[06:48] <stdin> heh k
[06:48] <liu> i can not install limewire
[06:49] <neptunafish> !frostwire | liu
[06:49] <ubotu> liu: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:49] <Jucato> stdin: I just quieted him.. but by nick instead of domain...
[06:49] <xp_killer> stdin: wat should i do if theres no sound and kaffeine is not launchin?
[06:49] <liu> ok
[06:51] <stdin> heh
[06:51] <Jucato> sorry stdin...
[06:51] <stdin> it's ok Jucato, as long as we were both doing the same thing
[06:53] <stdout> ;X
[06:53] <xp_killer> stdin: wat should i do if theres no sound and kaffeine is not workin?
[06:53] <GuHHH> i like caffeine
[06:53] <GuHHH> gimme some
[06:53] <stdin> !sound > xp_killer
[06:54] <liu> thank ubotu
[06:55] <Jucato> !thanks | liu
[06:55] <ubotu> liu: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:55] <liu> frostwire install
[06:55] <DaSkreech> !frostwire | liu
[06:55] <ubotu> liu: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:55] <liu> already
[06:56] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: isnt frostwire on apt?
[06:56] <BluesKaj> KMLDonkey is much safer than frostwire , but harder to setup
  my system is alright now hu hu
[06:56] <stdin> coreymon77: nope
[06:56] <GuHHH> !coffee
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coffee - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <genii> back
[06:57] <BluesKaj> ksivaji, got it working ok eh ..good :)
 my system is alright now hu hu
[06:57] <genii> ksivaji: Good :)
[06:57] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: Doubt it
[06:57] <coreymon77> oh
[06:58] <coreymon77> i thought it was
[06:58] <coreymon77> anyways, it is in a deb
[06:58] <SlimeyPete> I already have Pepsi, and... erm, I'm not sure what this other drink is because the label's in Japanese
[06:58] <coreymon77> so thats easy
[06:58] <genii> stdin: How'd ya guess
[06:58] <coreymon77> liu: download the ubuntu deb file from the frostwire website
[06:58] <stdin> makes sense :)
[06:58] <ksivaji> why i cant login to freenod server from my college system ,("server refused to connect" ) ?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> ksivaji: They hate you?
[06:59] <genii> darn. boss keeps messaging me from upstairs LOL. away a while
[06:59] <ksivaji> DaSkreech why ?
[06:59] <coreymon77> ksivaji: does your school block a lot of stuff?
[07:00] <ksivaji> coreymon77 college  is not equal to school
[07:00] <ksivaji> :p
[07:00] <stdin> ooh, I see ban evasion ^
[07:01] <mattperry1976> genii: got any other ideas?
[07:01] <coreymon77> ksivaji: you know what i mean
[07:01] <ksivaji> no i cant get you
[07:01] <marco_> hi everybopdy
[07:02] <ksivaji> !hi
[07:02] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:02] <coreymon77> ksivaji: a college is still a school
[07:02] <marco_> I installed phpmyadmin with adept
[07:02] <wckdkl0wn> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:02] <marco_> how can I use it?
[07:02] <coreymon77> ksivaji: anyways
[07:02] <ksivaji> coreymon77 ya sometimes
[07:02] <coreymon77> ksivaji: does you COLLEGE block alot of stuff?
[07:02] <coreymon77> because that would explain it
[07:02] <ksivaji> ya they block including orkut
[07:02] <wckdkl0wn> how do i make C compiler make executables
[07:02] <wckdkl0wn> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:03] <stdin> !compile | wckdkl0wn
[07:03] <ubotu> wckdkl0wn: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:04] <ironfroggy> im configure a windows file share from the control panel, but after entering all the information in, hitting OK seems to do nothing at all. the dialog is still open and everything.
[07:05] <marco_> hi people
[07:05] <xp_killer> !nfs
[07:05] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:05] <marco_> I have a big problem now
[07:05] <marco_> so I hope somebody can help me
[07:05] <marco_> I'm moving to china tomorrow and there there is alot of censorship on websites, including wikipedia
[07:06] <marco_> how can I surf these websites?
[07:06] <marco_> is tor somehow useful?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> very carefully :)
[07:06] <ironfroggy> xp_killer: was that for me?
[07:06] <marco_> no, I mean
[07:06] <SlimeyPete> I believe the standard method is to use Tor, but this isn't really a discussion for #kubuntu ;)
[07:06] <DaSkreech> you can probably proxy out of it
[07:06] <marco_> how?
[07:06] <stdin> marco_: I'd suggest you google about, I'm sure there are a few ways to do it
[07:06] <marco_> I tried
[07:06] <marco_> no way
[07:07] <marco_> I googled it but no way
[07:07] <marco_> why is shouldn't that be legal uh?
[07:07] <marco_> I am an european citizen and I cannot even surf the U.N website, o
[07:07] <marco_> or myspace, or wikipedia
[07:07] <stdin> because it's illegal in china to bypass the chinese firewall...
[07:08] <marco_> oh shit
[07:08] <stdin> !language
[07:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:08] <marco_> I don't think is not legal if u are a foreigner uh
[07:08] <marco_> oh, true
[07:08] <marco_> sorry
[07:08] <marco_> excuse me everybody
[07:08] <marco_> I'm just abit desperate
[07:08] <marco_> sorry again
[07:08] <stdin> yeah, rules of the land you're in take presidents over your home laws
[07:08] <GuHHH> !pointing
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pointing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <lazz0> china ftw :)
[07:08] <lazz0> isnt answers.com clone of wikipedia?
[07:09] <xp_killer> ironfroggy: lol no me
[07:09] <marco_> what ftw means?
[07:09] <GuHHH> lazz0: no
[07:09] <marco_> really?
[07:09] <ironfroggy> xp_killer: ok i was gonna say i am not using nfs
[07:09] <marco_> is that any site similar to wikipedia?
[07:09] <marco_> or can I surf wikipedia locally?
[07:09] <lazz0> check it out
[07:09] <marco_> download it here and surf it on my pc?
[07:09] <ironfroggy> i really dont want to try and craft the samba mounting in fstab by hand again
[07:09] <ironfroggy> i lsost my fstab backup :-(
[07:09] <DaSkreech> marco_: try ##linux
[07:10] <marco_> uh?
[07:10] <DaSkreech> marco_: actually yes you can download wikipedia
[07:10] <ksivaji> is there any command to find  dependency of a deb package
[07:10] <marco_> DaSkreech: how?
[07:10] <stdin> ksivaji: apt-cache depends <package>
[07:11] <DaSkreech> http://digg.com/tech_news/Download_WikiPedia
[07:11] <ksivaji> ok
[07:11] <DaSkreech> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download
[07:11] <marco_> just a question
[07:12] <marco_> XML format can be seen thru a normal boser?
[07:12] <marco_> like mozilla or konqueror
[07:12] <xp_killer> ironfroggy: lol
[07:12] <SlimeyPete> marco_: yes but it probably won't make a lot of sense to you
[07:12] <DaSkreech> marco_: most modern browsers yes
[07:12] <DaSkreech>  I think that IE is better at it than most
[07:12] <marco_> so what do u suggest me to use to surf it?
[07:13] <DaSkreech> marco_: ask in ##linux
[07:13] <marco_> ....
[07:13] <DaSkreech> marco_: Surf what?
[07:14] <marco_> surf wikipedia offline?
[07:14] <lazz0> marco_, did you see answers.com?
[07:14] <marco_> btw I am in this page http://download.wikimedia.org/
[07:14] <arash> Hi,  I have two computers connected through D-Link and both has internet, how can I simply copy a file from one computer to another?
[07:14] <marco_> where should I download
[07:14] <marco_> @lazz: I am checking it
[07:14] <marco_> thank you so much dude
[07:14] <DaSkreech> enwiki I think
[07:14] <DaSkreech> there was a KDE app to do it
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Knowledge I think it was called
[07:15] <SlimeyPete> arash: scp
[07:15] <SlimeyPete> !scp
[07:15] <ubotu> SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[07:16] <marco_> answers,com is cool
[07:16] <marco_> thank u a lot
[07:16] <lazz0> have fun
[07:18] <marco_> knowledge?
[07:18] <marco_> Iam searching for it
[07:19] <aantipop>  is it possible to turn of the explosion-like animations when klicking stuff on the desktop or in the kicker ?
[07:19] <aantipop> *turn off
[07:20] <arash> Slimeypete , If I want to send a file to this comp, and the terminal on this comp (let call comp X) has name arash@HEMPC2007 , did I do correct if I on other computer wrote 'scp fileoncompY arash@HEMPC2007 filetocreateoncompX' ?
[07:21] <SlimeyPete> arash: you will probably need to use the IP address instead of "HEMPC2007"
[07:21] <SlimeyPete> but otherwise, yes
[07:21] <arash> SlimeyPete , ok, isn't that exploitable+
[07:21] <SlimeyPete> arash: nah, not really
[07:22] <SlimeyPete> IP addresses are easy to find anyway, and scp is quite secure.
[07:22] <arash> hmm, which IP adress? the <IP_ADDRESS>x something?
[07:22] <SlimeyPete> arash: yes, that sounds right.
[07:22] <arash> how do I find that one out :p?
[07:23] <DaSkreech> You have a Hemp Computer?
[07:23] <arash> no :p, what is that?
[07:23] <aantipop> ifconfig
[07:23] <SlimeyPete> arash: ifconfig
[07:23] <arash> man, what don't they simply have ipconfig XD ?
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Dunno I just swung around and saw HEMPC 2007
[07:24] <stdin> aantipop: I think it's: system settings > keyboard & mouse > mouse and un-check "visual feedback on activation"
[07:24] <arash> hem=home in swedish :)
[07:24] <thomas__> what's kubuntu's device manager
[07:24] <thomas__> my dvd burning is not working
[07:24] <aantipop> stdin: thanks, didnt find it myself
[07:25] <Jucato> stdin: your turn :)
[07:25] <stdin> Jucato: sweet dreams of pink ponies :p
[07:25] <Jucato> heheh
[07:25] <Jucato> no originality
[07:26] <stdin> ahh, it was all I could copy and paste at such short notice :)
[07:26] <Jucato> lol
[07:27] <thomas__> what's kubuntu's device manager
[07:28] <arash> it says connection refused :( , and I added port myIP port 22 TCP 'n' UDP on DLink
[07:28] <aantipop> is it possible to use the mouse-pointer loading theme when i start a application and not the bouncing icon ?
[07:28] <arash> the other ocmputer is Ubuntu and this is Kubuntu, does that matter?
[07:29] <stdin> arash: you need to have ssh installed on the one receiving the file(s), or you can use the Public File Server applet for kicker
[07:30] <BluesKaj> thomas__, kubuntu uses system settings or kcontrol for device management
[07:30] <arash> openssh-server?
[07:31] <arash> !find openssh
[07:31] <ubotu> Found: openssh-client, openssh-server
[07:31] <stdin> arash: yeah, but the package "ssh" installs the server
[07:31] <arash> stdin:  ah great, do I have to start it or?
[07:32] <stdin> arash: no, once it's installed it will start up
[07:33] <stdin> arash: the 1st time you try to connect it will say it can't verify the host, that's ok, just type in "yes" and press enter
[07:33] <arash> I can't send folder :p argh! , oh well, seems to work :)
[07:33] <arash> stdin:  cool! that exactly happend to me :)
[07:34] <thomas__> BluesKaj: but I can't find for example drivers that I have for my cd drive
[07:34] <stdin> arash: sure you can send folders, use scp -r folder user@host:/place/to/put/folder :)
[07:35] <arash> stdin:  darn knowitall :p
[07:36] <arash> can you do this to othercomputers through internet?
[07:36] <fkm> Is there a way to make Konquerors FTP client connect to SFTP servers?
[07:37] <stdin> arash: yeah, oh and want a GUI? open konqueror and use sftp://user@host :D
[07:37] <BluesKaj> thomas__,  kubuntu doesn't recognize your cd drive ?
[07:37] <thomas__> i gueses not i don't know
[07:38] <thomas__> i tried burning gavve me an error
[07:38] <arash> No, just because you said that :p (jk, thaks , a GUI is great)
[07:39] <thomas__> BluesKaj: ok I recognizes a cd but doesn't show any folders or files
[07:39] <arash> stdin:  hmm, I send from the Ubuntu, does Nautilus handle sftp protocol?
[07:40] <thomas__> BluesKaj: wait nm
[07:40] <stdin> arash: not sure, never use gnome. but I would think that it does
[07:41] <mattperry1976> genii: that test didn't work...got any other ideas?
[07:41] <[nrx] > Can anyone suggest why apt-get is resolving all download hosts to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:42] <arash> hmm, I realized the root password is quite important to keep secret
[07:43] <stdin> arash: well yes, but seeing as k/ubuntu have root disabled that won't be a difficult secret to keep :P
[07:44] <arash> stdin: uh, OK , even though I didn't understand :)
[07:44] <ShaneN> Why isn't php5-mssql included in the sources?
[07:45] <stdin> !root | arash
[07:45] <ubotu> arash: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:45] <stdin> !info php5-mysql | ShaneN
[07:45] <ubotu> shanen: php5-mysql: MySQL module for php5. In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.1-0ubuntu1.4 (feisty), package size 63 kB, installed size 240 kB
[07:45] <stdin> ShaneN: it is
[07:45] <NickPresta> ShaneN, mssql?
[07:46] <mattperry1976> genii: here is the link that shows me how to setup minicom for what I'm trying to do http://forum.db-sat.eu/index.php?topic=1506.msg4369
[07:46] <llutz> [nrx] : check your nameserver
[07:46] <[nrx] > it's fine
[07:47] <[nrx] > llutz: it's only apt-get that's having that issue.. nslookup returns all addresses perfectly.
[07:47] <ShaneN> NickPresta: mssql as in MS-SQL, as in Microsoft SQL Server :)
[07:47] <NickPresta> ShaneN, I'm aware of what it is. Why would you think the repos would have that?
[07:48] <ironfroggy> ive added cifs mounts to fstab, with the rw option, but when i mount them im told "block device ... is write protected"
[07:48] <ShaneN> NickPresta: Because other distros do :)
[07:48] <ironfroggy> but why would it be? im giving credentials for a user that can write to the location on the server.
[07:48] <genii> mattperry1976: That site shows them using a normal serial port eg: ttyS0
[07:48] <stdin> ShaneN: then request it added to multiverse (as it's probably non-free)
[07:48] <DaSkreech> fkm: just use sftp
[07:49] <DaSkreech> arash: Do you know what root is?
[07:49] <ShaneN> stdin: It appears it was requested back in May: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2699953&postcount=15
[07:49] <arash> DaSkreech:  On trees :p ?
[07:50] <arash> DaSkreech:  well, i would guess the administrator task thingies...
[07:50] <mattperry1976> genii: when I did this in windows, I set it up as serial port 4 and it worked just fine...it's these little things that make me want to go back to windows, just because it takes 2 seconds rather than 2 weeks of research and still no solution...lol
[07:50] <DaSkreech> arash: Binary trees?
[07:50] <genii> mattperry1976: You don't have on the motherboard a DB9 connector??
[07:50] <DaSkreech> arash: Yes under UNIX all users are given rights and restrictions to files etc. EXCEPT for the special user "root" who has no restrictions
[07:51] <DaSkreech> So if something goes horribly wrong root can fix it
[07:51] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I'm hoping someone will know the answer to this problem. I installed the "kubuntu-desktop" package so I could get KDE after losing my last install, but when I go through the setup, kpersonalizer crashes. If I try to restart KDM and log in again, it hangs on "Loading Window Manager". Any ideas on what to do?
[07:51] <genii> mattperry1976: Because then you only need a null-modem cable direct from there to the box you are trying to program
[07:51] <DaSkreech> however sine he has no restrictions if someone malicious becomes root he can cause great harm
[07:51] <ironfroggy> is there anything i need to install to make cifs mounts work properly?
[07:52] <mattperry1976> genii: yes, but I have been told that linux is this miraculous os that can duplicate anything in windows, and I'm finding that to be false
[07:52] <Chousuke> It's not supposed to duplicate windows.
[07:52] <Chousuke> whoever told you that was lying
[07:52] <genii> Chousuke: ditto
[07:52] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> mattperry1976: I'd love to get a hold of whoever told you that and show them how wrong they are
[07:52] <DaSkreech> mattperry1976: Who told you that? Get him to show the blue screen of Moaning an death!!!
[07:53] <DaSkreech> mattperry1976: In anycase what do you want to get done?
[07:53] <arash> mattperry1976 , it has terrible disadvantages in automation (for noobs like me), but KDE is worth it :p
[07:53] <Chousuke> automation? :/
[07:53] <Chousuke> you mean things it does for you throught a GUI?
[07:53] <Chousuke> -t
[07:53] <Chousuke> well, I suppose.
[07:53] <arash> well, I mean more of detecting hardware
[07:54] <Chousuke> hmmh
[07:54] <Chousuke> never had trouble with that :)
[07:54] <arash> which is really really really tedious if you have a new computer, I usually recommend to wait on installing linux to friends if they have new computers
[07:54] <stdin> ShaneN: well, if you need it now there's a deb on the bug page (you should also comment on the page) https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/87063
[07:55] <mattperry1976> I'm trying to send files to my fta sat box using minicom...which sounds simple enough, but I can't get linux (kubuntu gutsy) to tell me the serial path for one of my usb drives...any help would be appreciated
[07:56] <ShaneN> stdin: I get errors when trying to install that deb about the version of php5-common not being the right version (mine is newer). Is there a way to have it ignore that?
[07:57] <stdin> ShaneN: there is, but it probably wouldn't work when installed. you can try if you want?
[07:57] <ShaneN> stdin: Meh...
[07:57] <ironfroggy> is anyone else using a cifs line in fstab here?
[07:57] <deviance> I can seem to change Icons or Device names for my mobile phone, any ideas why?
[07:57] <deviance> Its plugged in the USB port
[07:57] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy,  i tend to use the smbfs, not cifs
[07:58] <deviance> I can access the data fine, its just naming and icon
[07:58] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy,  isent cifs a subset of that? i forget :)
[07:58] <DexterF> hi
[07:58] <DexterF> where can I get the kubuntu kernel patches *standalone*, not already patched into the kernel src?
[07:59] <DexterF> or: can I safely use a vanilla kernel?
[07:59] <llutz> mattperry1976: using a usb-2-serial device? ports should be /dev/ttyUSBX (X= 0...15)
[07:59] <ironfroggy> what package do i need for smbfs? i get bad fs on that.
[07:59] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy,  you may want to do some reading up on samba. it might be needed
[07:59] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> *thud* Ok, now I'm stumped. I can't find anything on KPersonalizer in Launchpad.
[07:59] <BluesKaj> samba. ironfroggy
[07:59] <stdin> DexterF: better to ask in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-kernel for kernel questions
[07:59] <Dr_willis> I tend to use the fuse-smb stuff for my samba mounting needs
[07:59] <Dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[08:00] <ubotu> samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB
[08:00] <ironfroggy> ah i see there is a smbfs package i didnt realize
[08:00] <Dr_willis> the samba-doc package has 2 whole books on setting up samba and conecting to windows machines
[08:00] <Dr_willis> smbfs is the FUSE SAMBA package. :) its what i use.
[08:00] <DaSkreech> mattperry; blast!!
[08:00] <ironfroggy> yeah ive read a good chunk of those books
[08:00] <Dr_willis> I make my local network appear on /home/username/Networkl with it
[08:00] <ironfroggy>  but it was some years ago i set this up before
[08:00] <ironfroggy> and i had to migrate to a new box and i lost my fstab backup
[08:00] <Dr_willis> http://www.swerdna.net.au/linhowtosambacifs.html
[08:00] <Dr_willis> has some examples.
[08:01] <ironfroggy> thanks
[08:01] <Dr_willis> I always had issues with samba shares on widnows machines with spaces in the names. :)
[08:01] <Dr_willis> the smbfs seems to work better for me.
[08:01] <deviance> !mounting
[08:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:01] <deviance> What is Mounting??
[08:01] <ironfroggy> seriously?
[08:02] <Dr_willis> Mounting is taking a filesystem and puting it on the 'directory' tree structure so you can access it.
[08:02] <stdin> deviance: see this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_%28Unix%29
[08:02] <deviance> For my mobile phone, should I have it mounted automaticly?
[08:02] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I think I'm going to start up HydraIRC on my laptop and try installing the "kubuntu-desktop" package again.
[08:02] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> *on my desktop*
[08:02] <Dr_willis> If a filesystem (like a hard drive) is not mounted.. you CANT access it.
[08:02] <deviance> AH ok, thanks.,
[08:03] <deviance> So thats not a reason why I cant edit its name or icon then
[08:03] <deviance> Why would that be?
[08:03] <Dr_willis> if the mobile phone is hooked up via USB cable. You might be able to access it as if it was a hard drive.
[08:03] <Dr_willis> If it  has that feature.
[08:03] <deviance> It detects it as a camera
[08:03] <deviance> So its displayed on my desktop
[08:04] <Dr_willis> It just sees it with image files.. so it thinks its a camera.
[08:04] <Dr_willis> its guessing. :)
[08:04] <Dr_willis> and no  i dont know how to change it.. , never considered it a big deal.
[08:04] <deviance> Well, my mobile phone is just my memory card, which is a memory stick duo as you find in cameras
[08:04] <deviance> Okay, never mind then :P
[08:04] <Dr_willis> if you plyug the card into a USB reader. it may use a different icon.
[08:04] <notv> hey guys what is LVM defined as?
[08:05] <Dr_willis> again i dont consider it a big deal. :)
[08:05] <notv> is 160G considered LVM?
[08:05] <Dr_willis> LVM is  'logical volume manager' ...  Not sure what you are asking.
[08:05] <llutz> notv: no, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager
[08:05] <notv> oh
[08:05] <[nrx] > Can anyone suggest why apt-get is resolving all download hosts to <IP_ADDRESS>? nslookup in konsole works but firefox doesn't seem to work with hostnames either. DNS is obviously broken but I don't know what to try
[08:05] <notv> i thought it was about large volumes..heh
[08:05] <Dr_willis> it can be for VERY large volumes
[08:05] <DaSkreech> [nrx] : whats your DNS server ?
[08:06] <[nrx] > the wireless router
[08:06] <notv> whats the benefit of using LVM/
[08:06] <stdin> notv: depends what you're on about, but for filesystems, that's not large
[08:06] <newsense07> hi all, im running feisty  and have just upgraded to amorok 1.4.7 and now under serrings>engine i have no engines to choose from, any help ?
[08:06] <DaSkreech> [nrx] : where does that get the DNS from ?
[08:06] <Dr_willis> notv,  you can reize them easy. add more easy.. power user stuff. :)
[08:06] <[nrx] > isp :) lol
[08:06] <notv> hm
[08:06] <notv> thanks
[08:07] <[nrx] > it's not a network dns server issue, it's definately something i've done here
[08:07] <[nrx] > might be worth noting that i can only get the wireless connection up and running by using iwconfig
[08:07] <llutz> [nrx] : have you set a (non-existent) proxy?
[08:07] <[nrx] > llutz: no
[08:07] <notv> is there a better alternative to ndiswrapper?
[08:08] <notv> for an atheros card
[08:08] <llutz> notv: native drivers, madwifi
[08:08] <SlimeyPete> notv: atheros cards usually work with the madwifi drivers
[08:08] <SlimeyPete> mine does, for instance :)
[08:08] <stdin> notv: if the madwifi drivers don't work then you'll have to use ndiswrapper
[08:08] <notv> is madwifi better?
[08:08] <notv> are they open-source?
[08:08] <SlimeyPete> yes and yes
[08:08] <notv> i dont really like the idea of XP drivers
[08:09] <stdin> well, almost
[08:09] <newsense07> anyone know what package im missing as i have upgraded to amarok 1.4.7 and have no engines anymore ?
[08:09] <ironfroggy> i switched to smbfs but even with the verified username and password im getting access denied when i try to mount
[08:10] <stdin> newsense07: amarok-xine or amarok-engines ?
[08:10] <llutz> SlimeyPete: the hal-part of madwifi is closed source
[08:10] <newsense07> stdin: thanks much ill try those
[08:10] <SlimeyPete> llutz: is it? oh right
[08:10] <stdin> SlimeyPete: it has to be, it's some fcc law
[08:11] <notv> slimeypete can you tell me the easiest way to get madwifi, i dont think ill have gui up yet
[08:12] <shad-99> anyone nows how to make gps bu-353 to work with kubuntu?
[08:12] <BoneSolTeraDyne> Alright, I'm still having the same problem, except that KPersonalizer doesn't even show up. It tries to go into kde, but hangs on "Loading the window manager". Any ideas?
[08:13] <SlimeyPete> !madwifi
[08:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:13] <genii> back
[08:14] <SlimeyPete> notv: it "just worked" for me, as soon as I'd installed ubuntu
[08:15] <BoneSolTeraDyne> grr... Anyone know what log I can look at to see why KDE can't load the window manager?
[08:15] <llutz> notv: first make sure your wlan-card is supported by madwifi before trying to use it
[08:16] <aantipop> BoneSolTeraDyne:   xorg.0.log ??
[08:17] <aantipop> BoneSolTeraDyne: talking about kwin or kdm or X ?
[08:17] <notv> i have an atheros card
[08:17] <BoneSolTeraDyne> I think I found it. in /var/log/kdm.log, it's trying to load AIGLX for some reason...
[08:17] <notv> ar50007eg
[08:18] <notv> which one do you have slimeypete?
[08:18] <BoneSolTeraDyne> "(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable" is the error it's throwing out.
[08:22] <BoneSolTeraDyne> Kwin still won't load, though. Maybe if I reconfigure Xorg and untick the DRI option...
[08:23] <funnelweb> hi
[08:23] <funnelweb> ich werds warscheinlih noch hundert mal fragen, sry
[08:23] <emilsedgh> !hi | funnelweb
[08:23] <ubotu> funnelweb: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:23] <emilsedgh> !de | funnelweb
[08:23] <BoneSolTeraDyne> !de | funnelweb
[08:23] <ubotu> funnelweb: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:23] <kkathman> BoneSolTeraDyne:  there are some bugs in that system that cause those errors with certain ATI cards
[08:23] <funnelweb> sry
[08:24] <funnelweb> i forgot it^^
[08:24] <BoneSolTeraDyne> kkathman, There's one problem. I'm using an Nvidia card.
[08:24] <kkathman> BoneSolTeraDyne:  well could be something similar, Im saying
[08:25] <genii> bah keep forgetting to /away
[08:25] <BoneSolTeraDyne> kkathman, Ok. Know of any fixes for it? I know GNOME, AfterStep, and FluxBox all work...
[08:25] <kkathman> BoneSolTeraDyne:  which card and which driver are you attempting to use?
[08:25] <genii> Did mattperry1976 get it sorted out for the usb modem etc? Curious
[08:26] <BoneSolTeraDyne> 8300GS, nv driver.
[08:26] <kkathman> genii:  not sure
[08:26] <sleon> hmm
[08:27] <sleon> how to stop ubuntu from fingring on my xorg.conf ?
[08:27] <sleon> each time it changes it and removes everything i add to it
[08:27] <genii> kkathman: Ok, thanks
[08:27] <sleon> it makes me mad
[08:27] <kkathman> sleon:  to my knowledge ubuntu doesnt make changes to xorg unless you tell it to
[08:27] <kkathman> its a file thats under sudo control in fact
[08:28] <sleon> kkathman: then what does this in my /var/log/user.log
[08:28] <sleon> means ??
[08:28] <sleon> Sep 13 20:03:24 chefe python: Graphics card hardware has changed. Reconfiguring xorg.conf using 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.
[08:28] <sleon> and it removed stuff and moved my xorg.conf to xorg.conf123123123
[08:29] <sleon> and did it already two times
[08:29] <kkathman> sleon:  now I was just going to say...
[08:29] <sleon> kkathman: yes ?
[08:29] <kkathman> sleon:  if the kernel detects a change of hardware, it will attempt to resolve it
[08:29] <sleon> kkathman: and how to shut down this very very clever machnism ?
[08:30] <kkathman> so each time you change the xorg.conf with the same hardware
[08:30] <kkathman> it will change it back
[08:30] <sleon> Sep 13 20:03:26 chefe python: Writing graphics card hardware list to /var/lib/guidance/guidance-gfxhardware-snapshot
[08:30] <jessejazza> Hi - i wanted to try one of the other window environments. I'm new to ubuntu and have now loaded KDE.  In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+1.0rc2-1 (feisty), package size 899 kB, installed size 2888 kB
[08:31] <kkathman> sleon:  I would try to re run the xconfig xorg again and manually check the difference between the two
[08:31] <stdin> !info enlightenment
[08:31] <ubotu> enlightenment: The Enlightenment Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-5 (feisty), package size 398 kB, installed size 1004 kB
[08:31] <deviance> Whats a good program to rip CD's?
[08:31] <kkathman> there's probably a good reason why its changing it
[08:31] <kkathman> deviance:  k3b
[08:31] <stdin> jessejazza: both in universe
[08:31] <kkathman> brb
[08:31] <genii> yup k3b
[08:32] <sleon> kkathman: the solution is
[08:32] <sleon> rc3.d/S20kde-guidance:  /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/displayconfig-hwprobe.py
[08:32] <sleon> rm -rf this stupid script
[08:32] <stdin> sleon: until the package is upgraded...
[08:32] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I just might wipe everything and reinstall with my Kubuntu CD...
[08:33] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> XD, the disconnect left my other name online...
[08:33] <sleon> ok
[08:34] <sleon> any suggestion where to install mplayer from ?
[08:34] <sleon> !mplayer
[08:34] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[08:34] <sleon> !codecs
[08:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:34] <amnesiac_hackers> hai folks
[08:35] <jessejazza> thx stdin. I'm still learning my way around ubuntu. Tried KDE and XFCE and like them rather than the gnome
[08:35] <Dr_willis> install them all. :) thats what i do
[08:35] <tro> i've got this nice "feature" in my installation, where i can log in as root from a text console without a password, but it's required for remote login, sudo/su, etc. is it supposed to be like this, or did i mess up something with pam's config?
[08:35] <amnesiac_hackers> ubotu: can you help me i have trouble with tdfsb a 3d fileviewer
[08:35] <Dr_willis> tro,  sounds like a Huge security hole/mess up to me.
[08:35] <stdin> !bot > amnesiac_hackers
[08:36] <tro> Dr_willis: yeah, me too. I fiddled a bit with pam.d's config files when setting up the fingerprint reader, but i can't recall which ones i changed
[08:36] <deviance> How can I rip MP3 using k3b
[08:36] <deviance> ?
[08:36] <amnesiac_hackers> can somebody help me i have trouble with tdfsb a 3d fileviewer
[08:36] <Dr_willis> deviance,  not sure k3b can do that. I tend to use 'grip' to rip cd's to mp3
[08:36] <amnesiac_hackers> it gives the eror output freeglut  ERROR:  Function <glutStrokeCharacter> called without first calling 'glutInit'.
[08:36] <tro> Dr_willis: is it possible that i maybe never set the password for root 'cause I only use sudo and by default the password is not required?
[08:37] <Dr_willis> Thers also a dozen other tools out to do it :)
[08:37] <stdin> deviance: you need libk3b2-mp3 installed
[08:37] <Dr_willis> tro,  by default  root password does not exist.. that Not the same as 'not required' :)
[08:37] <jme> Hi everybody
[08:37] <jokijo> whats the best mp3 player for kubuntu?
[08:37] <Dr_willis> direct logging in as root is disabled.
[08:37] <amnesiac_hackers> hi jme
[08:37] <Dr_willis> jokijo,  depends on your needs.. try them out. use whats best for you
[08:37] <stdin> !best | jme
[08:37] <ubotu> jme: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:38] <tro> Dr_willis: ah, well, if i login as root, i can type anything and it lets me in
[08:38] <stdin> !players
[08:38] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:38] <amnesiac_hackers> jokijo: amarok
[08:38] <Dr_willis> tro,  that sounds like a major issue. :)
[08:38] <jokijo> thanks :)
[08:38] <sleon> how is the utility to configure sound hardware under ubuntu is called ?
[08:38] <tro> after running passwd, it looks like i just never set a password, 'cause it didn't ask me to type in the previous one
[08:38] <jokijo> i just installed kubuntu last night, i'm still adjusting
[08:38] <amnesiac_hackers> jokijo: np
[08:39] <tro> Dr_willis: logging in as root is disabled even from text consoles?
[08:39] <stdin> tro: we use "sudo -i" to get a root shell
[08:39] <jme> hi all, i'm juste starting with kubuntu, when the live cd boot it ask a me username and password, does anyone know what are this user/passwd?
[08:39] <arash> sleon, I really need to know that too !
[08:39] <amnesiac_hackers> tro: use the sudo commands
[08:40] <hermit> !codecs
[08:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:40] <stdin> jme: it shouldn't ask you for one, it goes straight to the desktop
[08:40] <sleon> !hardware
[08:40] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:40] <sleon> !hardwareconfig
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardwareconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <sleon> !sex
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <tro> stdin: i know, but i don't want anyone to be able to just type in "root" on my machine and login as root
[08:40] <sleon> hmm
[08:40] <sleon> !hardware+sex
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardware+sex - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <tro> right now, that's the case
[08:40] <stdin> !botabuse > sleon
[08:40] <Dr_willis> tro,  sounds like you broke Pam. :)
[08:40] <arash> sleon , you can pm ubotu!!!!!!!!!, stop stpamming
[08:41] <sleon>  ok ok :)
[08:41] <amnesiac_hackers> sleon: hardware+sex is cyber-dildo
[08:41] <stdin> tro: they need to be in the admin group to use it, only the 1st user is by default
[08:41] <arash> jme , are you in the LiveCD desktop now?
[08:41] <tro> stdin: right now, ANYONE can type in "root" as login at the text shell and press enter and it lets them in
[08:41] <Dr_willis> the new iVibe
[08:41] <Dr_willis> tro,  you mean the 'console' :)
[08:42] <amnesiac_hackers> hahahahaha
[08:42] <Dr_willis> try sshing in. :) it may be worse then you thought
[08:42] <tro> Dr_willis: yeah. the console that pops up after pressing ctrl+alt+f1, for example
[08:42] <stdin> tro: they can only do it if they have sudo rights, ie: are in the admin group...
[08:42] <Dr_willis> tro,  that is known as the 'console' :)
[08:42] <jme> not yet only a user password interface :s
[08:42] <Dr_willis> tro,  you should of backed up your Pam config/whtever files befor messing with them. :)
[08:43] <stdin> tro: unless you set a root pass then just removed the password...
[08:43] <jme> i've change the root password from a console but it don't allow root log in
[08:43] <stdin> !ot | sleon
[08:43] <ubotu> sleon: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:43] <jme> maybe adding a new user will do the trick
[08:43] <tro> Dr_willis: no, i tried that already. sshd root logins are disabled and if i do "su" then i need to type in the correct password
[08:43] <hermit> !easyubuntu
[08:43] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:43] <amnesiac_hackers> jme: tried adding anew system user
[08:43] <amnesiac_hackers> ???
[08:44] <jme> how to add a system user?
[08:44] <amnesiac_hackers> jme: sudo useradd -system etc....
[08:44] <stdin> jme: if you aren't being brought to the desktop on the live cd then the cd isn't right
[08:44] <luca> hi everyone
[08:44] <amnesiac_hackers> hi luca
[08:44] <stdin> jme: check the md5sum and it's integrity
[08:45] <luca> does someone know how to remove a program installed from source with cmake?
[08:45] <luca> sudo make uninstall does not function
[08:45] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Ok, I figured out where Kpersonalizer crashes. I click "Next" after the "Performance" screen, and it throws out a SIGSEGV signal.
[08:45] <stdin> luca: then you'll have to find all the files it installed and remove them
[08:45] <amnesiac_hackers> ubotu:cmake
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cmake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <sleon> ok, so can anybody in this channel tell me what is the name of a program with wich a can set up my brand new sound card so i can hear moans in porno films ??
[08:46] <jokijo> !players
[08:46] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:46] <stdin> !sound | sleon
[08:46] <ubotu> sleon: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:46] <amnesiac_hackers> ubotu:tdbfs
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tdbfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <amnesiac_hackers> ubotu:tdbfs
[08:46] <stdin> amnesiac_hackers: stop that
[08:47] <amnesiac_hackers> stdin: i trie to get info about the tdbfs 3dfileviewer
[08:47] <luca> stdin: any idea on how to find a list of those files? :'(
[08:47] <amnesiac_hackers> i can ask or not ???
[08:47] <stdin> amnesiac_hackers: then /msg ubotu
[08:47] <amnesiac_hackers> AH damn sorry stdin
[08:47] <amnesiac_hackers> hahaha
[08:48] <stdin> luca: run: script -c "sudo make install"       maybe, then you'll have a log of where it installs stuff to
[08:49] <luca> stdin thanks
[08:49] <luca> ah ah did it :)
[08:49] <luca> thanks
[08:49] <luca> another thing maybe
[08:50] <amnesiac_hackers> see ya later folks
[08:50] <luca> the program I am going to remove is kgtk (a wrapper for gtk applications in kde)
[08:50] <bigleon> Woooo willy you on???
[08:50] <luca> which has a serious bug IMHO - at least, on my box it recursively executes itself and the program it wraps over and over
[08:51] <luca> problem is, I already gave the command "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/kgtk-wrapper /usr/bin/firefox" :(
[08:51] <bigleon> Sooo, this would be my 7th attempt at getting linux to work on my E1705 I can seem to get 6.06 and sometimes 6.10 but sofar it always goes sour at 7.04 any tips?
[08:51] <luca> will I have to reinstall firefox for this rather stupid move of mine?
[09:09] <BoneSolTeraDyne> I didn't know HydraIRC had that feature...
[09:09] <rectorbi> demonter partition
[09:09] <stdin> luca: just do "cd /usr/bin ; sudo rm firefox ; sudo ln -s ../lib/firefox/firefox firefox "
[09:09] <bigleon> Hallo stdin. got any ideas for getting 7.04 to work on my E1705?
[09:09] <luca> stdin: thanks :)
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: depends what the problem is
[09:09] <bigleon> Well, from what i understand my Vid Card is one problem, it's X1400 Mobility
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: does the liveCD work?
[09:09] <bigleon> well i only got live CD from 6.06
[09:09] <luca> ok thanks stdin, by all :)
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: so you're upgrading to 7.04?
[09:09] <bigleon> Trying lol
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: so what's not working?
[09:09] <Mr_Pan> hi i have a 3com wifi pci card , i can see it into LSPCI list but i can't see and configure with ICONFIG and IWCONFIG commands. any ideas?
[09:09] <stdin> !wifi | Mr_Pan
[09:09] <ubotu> Mr_Pan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:09] <Mr_Pan> stdin, ok thanks
[09:09] <bigleon> well i've yet to get it to boot once i go from 6.10 to 7.04
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: what happens?
[09:09] <bigleon> last time it gave some bcmXX error, and told me i was missing video drivers, and time before that it was missing something about a keymap
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: does it go to a (text) login prompt then?
[09:09] <bigleon> if i go in recovery mode
[09:09] <bigleon> other wise it just freezes
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: I'm guessing you installed the ati driver by downloading the .bin or .run file from ati.com ?
[09:09] <bigleon> nope xorg-xserver-fgrlx or something like that
[09:09] <ironfroggy> ive got my smbfs mounts working but how do i get them to be owned by a specific user?
[09:09] <ironfroggy> i cant find anything on that yet
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: what happens when you do a normal boot? does it freeze up or just not start X?
[09:09] <bigleon> freeze up
[09:09] <bigleon> i've reinstalled and back at 6.06
[09:09] <jokijo> i cant get amarok to play music
[09:09] <jokijo> !amarok
[09:09] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[09:09] <bigleon> i'm at ati's page, which driver do i need
[09:09] <bigleon>  i see xp
[09:09] <bigleon> and then i see something about 'Hydra"
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: hmm, I'd try asking on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ you'll get more chance of someone knowing there
[09:09] <bigleon> well i'm going to run to local shop, and grab a Cd-rw and burn the live cd of 7.04 and try
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: you can order one off shipit too, it'll take a few weeks tho
[09:09] <jme> amnesiac_hackers: i've juste check the md5 and it's ok :s
[09:09] <jokijo> amarok says "some media could not be loaded (not playable)"
[09:09] <jokijo> for mp3s
[09:09] <bigleon> gah..
[09:09] <bigleon> yeah stdin lol
[09:09] <bigleon> 4-6
[09:09] <bigleon> and i need a working comp by next week lol
[09:09] <stdin> jokijo: install mp3 support, get the libxine1-ffmpeg package
[09:09] <jokijo> i installed the mp3 support
[09:09] <hermit> !amarok-xine
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amarok-xine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <vapashos> anyone who can help me with the installation of new kubuntu?i have some problems
[09:09] <vapashos> please talk to me
[09:09] <stdin> !ask
[09:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:09] <vge> !ask
[09:09] <vge> :)
[09:09] <vapashos> ok
[09:09] <vapashos> i have inserted the cd i have downloaded from the site
[09:10] <vapashos> i selected starting and installing kubuntu
[09:10] <vapashos> and it shows me up some messages
[09:10] <[nrx] > gah
[09:10] <vapashos> and stops saying starting bluetooth devices
[09:10] <vapashos> probably because i dont have any on my pc
[09:11] <vapashos> how can i make it skip this?
[09:11] <[nrx] > am i here?
[09:12] <bigleon> i would think so nrx
[09:13] <vapashos> anyone how can help me?
[09:13] <[nrx] > is there a default template for routes?
[09:13] <[nrx] > im not sure how it should look :/
[09:13] <bigleon> nrx try a google search for starters nrx
[09:13] <bigleon> i can try vapashos
[09:13] <[nrx] > i can't
[09:13] <bigleon> why not?
[09:13] <[nrx] > because DNS is screwed on here
[09:13] <bigleon> want me to get you an IP for google.com
[09:13] <[nrx] > irc client seems ok... nslookup works..
[09:13] <[nrx] > but nothing else works with dns
[09:14] <bigleon> try, Http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:15] <jokijo> i cant get amarok to play music
[09:15] <hitmanWilly> [nrx] , whats in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:15] <BoneSolTeraDyne> Well, I think Kwin is dead for some reason. It just won't load when KDE starts up
[09:15] <[nrx] > nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:15] <bigleon> hmm, well i gotta run to the store
[09:15] <hitmanWilly> [nrx] , is your router a dns server?
[09:15] <vapashos> no one helps me i think its not such difficult
[09:16] <bigleon> hey hitman i killed it last night after all that work, i'm buying a cd so i can burn fiesty to it lol
[09:16] <[nrx] > yes
[09:16] <[nrx] > why does konqueror work.. but firefox doesn't? :O
[09:16] <hitmanWilly> [nrx] , try adding this line: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:16] <bigleon> Vapashos, try and google start up sqeunce and how to ed =it it
[09:17] <[nrx] > hitmanWilly: i've tried different nameservers (external) and it doesn't make any difference
[09:17] <hitmanWilly> [nrx] , hmm, well, that's usually where dns issues occur...are you using a proxy?
[09:17] <[nrx] > hitmanWilly: no
[09:17] <[nrx] > hitmanWilly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37336/
[09:18] <bigleon> Are you on a college or business network, that might have blocked you?
[09:18] <hitmanWilly> [nrx] , i take it it hangs at 0%
[09:18] <[nrx] > im at home.. and the rest of the pc's are fine
[09:18] <[nrx] > hitmanWilly: well, look at the IP it's resolving
[09:19] <bigleon> it might be possible servers are down or something. well i'll be back in 20 minutes
[09:19] <hitmanWilly> heh, missed that one :)
[09:19] <hitmanWilly> im pretty sure <IP_ADDRESS> isn't a valid ip for that...
[09:19] <[nrx] > i can't figure it out :(