[00:00] <bubbasaures> daftykins, We need a strawman argument bot click, that is what goes on here continually. ;)
[00:04] <ApplesInArrays> Ahh, it prompts for password
[00:08] <ApplesInArrays> root@user:/var/www/html# dir shows js.js.
[00:09] <ApplesInArrays> /var/www/html# scp root@IP:/var/www/html/js.js /var/www/html yields scp: /var/www/html/js.js: No such file or directory
[00:12] <pragmaticenigma> ApplesInArrays, you should rarely use the -P option when using scp/sftp commands, as someone can go through your command history and find your password. The scp/sftp applications will both prompt you for a password when you connect
[00:12] <pragmaticenigma> err
[00:12] <pragmaticenigma> ApplesInArrays, ignore  what I said earlier
[00:12] <pragmaticenigma> ApplesInArrays, the -P is for setting the port number to connect to on the remote system
[00:13] <ApplesInArrays> Now I'm just stuck trying to send over a little js file.
[00:13] <ApplesInArrays> I get past the password prompt, but keep getting a "No such file or directory"
[00:13] <pragmaticenigma> ApplesInArrays, you might find sftp more user friendly than scp
[00:13] <daftykins> given this user is talking of nefarious activities i don't think assisting is a good idea at all
[00:13] <pragmaticenigma> daftykins, what do you mean?
[00:14] <daftykins> read up if you were here
[00:15] <ApplesInArrays> I was asking what's to stop someone.
[00:15] <ApplesInArrays> then I said (7:03:04 PM) ApplesInArrays: Ahh, it prompts for password
[00:15] <pragmaticenigma> ApplesInArrays, you would need to know their password
[00:15] <nownot> I'm wanting to install mame on my ubuntu 14.10 machine. I have roms for mame 143, so how do I install mame .143 and not the newest amme?
[00:15] <ApplesInArrays> Yes, I have 2 Ubuntu14.04 VMs
[00:15] <pragmaticenigma> ApplesInArrays, and they'd be foolish to allow root to remotely login
[00:15] <ApplesInArrays> Now I'm just trying to transfer a 1kb js.js file to another server.
[00:15] <ApplesInArrays> pragmaticenigma: agreed!
[00:16] <pragmaticenigma> ApplesInArrays, Look into sftp... it's a lot easier to use and still uses the ssh connection method.
[00:16] <ApplesInArrays> It's also terminal?
[00:16] <pragmaticenigma> ApplesInArrays, yes
[00:16] <pragmaticenigma> !sftp
[00:16] <pragmaticenigma> that was unhelpful ubottu
[00:16] <niceties> ApplesInArrays: you are wondering what's stopping someone accessing your drive over the internet. Nothing really.
[00:17] <pragmaticenigma> sftp/scp/ssh and a few others are all part of the same suite of applications to remotely connect and manage systems
[00:17] <ApplesInArrays> You're saying someone can go ahead and read my IP:/etc/?
[00:17] <pragmaticenigma> ApplesInArrays, only if you haven't configured you system with a password
[00:17] <ApplesInArrays> I'm using Putty to connect to my droplet atm
[00:17] <ApplesInArrays> They all have passwords.
[00:17] <ApplesInArrays> p455word1
[00:17] <niceties> ApplesInArrays: true and false. You need a server running.
[00:18] <ApplesInArrays> and I type that in when it says Permission denied, please try again.root@ForeignIP's password:
[00:18] <ApplesInArrays> I have 2 VMs running. I connect to one through Putty.
[00:18] <ApplesInArrays> I want to see if I can send a js.js file to another
[00:18] <ApplesInArrays> Eventually, I need to migrate this MySQL file since I'm getting "Warning: Unknown: Failed to write session data (files). Please verify that the current setting of session.save_path is correct (/var/lib/php5)"
[00:19] <pragmaticenigma> ApplesInArrays, your systems (droplets) may not be configured to allow root to remotely access via sftp/ssh/scp
[00:19] <ApplesInArrays> Oh. that's interesting.
[00:19] <ApplesInArrays> Ok, so I'll set up a proper user account for ForeignIP.
[00:19] <ApplesInArrays> I just spun it up, so haven't had time to do that stuff yet
[00:19] <pragmaticenigma> yes
[00:19] <ApplesInArrays> but I'm going to keep the password p455word1
[00:19] <niceties> ApplesInArrays: there are many servers like http ftp ssh nfs
[00:19] <ApplesInArrays> Otherwise I forget
[00:20] <ApplesInArrays> That's interesting. They block SCP for root@IP
[00:20] <ApplesInArrays> I'm learning a bit more day by day about host limitations.
[00:20] <swordsmanz> niceties those are protocols not servers
[00:20] <daftykins> ApplesInArrays: ok well this sounds like DigitalOcean, so this isn't ubuntu out of the box anyway. it's modified
[00:20] <ApplesInArrays> daftykins: How modified?
[00:21] <daftykins> their defaults are not ubuntu defaults
[00:21] <ApplesInArrays> I'll be honest, it's RIJX.com's
[00:21] <daftykins> for example you probably got email'd a root password, root doesn't have a password with ubuntu OOTB
[00:21] <ApplesInArrays> $10/year
[00:21] <pragmaticenigma> ApplesInArrays, I really hope that isn't your actual password
[00:21] <niceties> ApplesInArrays: first most servers only allow access thru certain ports. And a simple firewall can block those ports to the outside
[00:21] <ApplesInArrays> pragmaticenigma: of course not
[00:22] <ApplesInArrays> Right now I'm using WinSCP to connect to a server one at a time to transfer files. I just figure I should learn this SCP thing.
[00:22] <swordsmanz> niceties server ports are arbetry and can be set on server and client
[00:22] <niceties> swordsmanz: Yes but they need a server.
[00:22] <ApplesInArrays> Alright, so I should (1) create a genuine user account. (2) figure out which ports are open for SCP on receiving end.
[00:23] <wolfy1339> Is IPv6 working on the
[00:23] <wolfy1339> US deb repository?
[00:23] <niceties> ApplesInArrays: Are you asking because you are having problem remotely accessing files?
[00:24] <pragmaticenigma> ApplesInArrays, the ports are always 22 unless you have changed them in the config file for openssh.
[00:24] <bubbasaures> wolfy1339, Tons of US ubuntu repos, change yours to one that works,
[00:25] <ApplesInArrays> niceties: I want to be able to send files from server to server
[00:25] <ApplesInArrays> Then finally, I want to be able to migrate a MySQL database
[00:25] <wolfy1339> i am using us.archive.ubuntu.org, but ipv6 doesn't seem to work
[00:26] <ApplesInArrays> Alright, it looks like I got it
[00:26] <niceties> ApplesInArrays: there is nfs which ubuntu uses.
[00:26] <ApplesInArrays> root@ForeignIP's password: scp: /var/www/html//js.js: Disk quota exceeded
[00:27] <swordsmanz> ApplesInArrays you might want to install a dameon for manageing multiple servers
[00:27] <ApplesInArrays> swordsmanz: what kind of Daemon?
[00:27] <ApplesInArrays> I hope to only have to do this once
[00:27] <ApplesInArrays> but I'm interested
[00:27] <pragmaticenigma> swordsmanz, he's migrating from one machine to the another, not mirroring them
[00:27] <ApplesInArrays> mirroring sounds cool, though!
[00:27] <ApplesInArrays> and fuck, I can't figure out why disk quota is exceeded.
[00:28] <gadsdin> I just updated from 13.10 to 14.04.1 on a KVM VM running on Ganeti, and I now get the following kernel panic when trying to boot:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9758956/   any ideas about why?
[00:28] <pragmaticenigma> ApplesInArrays, you might want to login to your target machine and figure out what's going on there. In the meantime, if you are using a service like digital ocean, you should really contact them for further support
[00:29] <ApplesInArrays> It's RIJX
[00:29] <ApplesInArrays> unfortunately
[00:29] <ApplesInArrays> Alright. I'm back to 'df -i' showing 100% usage of /dev/simfs
[00:30] <bubbasaures> wolfy1339, .com
[00:30] <niceties> ApplesInArrays: put port in root@ForeignIP's password: scp: /var/www/html//js.js: Disk quota exceeded
[00:30] <swordsmanz> pragmaticenigma so most decent solutions offer options for both
[00:30] <ApplesInArrays> It's really a disk quota problem.
[00:30] <samthewildone> OMG
[00:30] <ApplesInArrays> Now I have to figure out how to move things around the server.
[00:30] <swordsmanz> as for specifics i really wouldent feel comfertable adviseing on one, there are a shit tonne of ways to do that kinda thing
[00:30] <wolfy1339> even .com doesn't work
[00:30] <ApplesInArrays> /dev/simfs is 100% full. /dev/ and /run are empty
[00:31] <ApplesInArrays> but those don't appear when I use 'ls -la'
[00:31] <niceties> ApplesInArrays: after foreignips put :port
[00:31] <samthewildone> Guys I am having a NICE porter right now
[00:31] <ApplesInArrays> niceties: I used putty to log into "ForeignIP"'s machine.
[00:31] <niceties> Replace port with number of port ApplesInArrays
[00:31] <ApplesInArrays> because I forgot how dire ForeignIPs situatoin is.
[00:31] <samthewildone> its so black; like me that, its so RICH
[00:32] <ApplesInArrays> Now, RIJX is so ridiculously cheap, they could really be overselling physical space
[00:32] <samthewildone> !offtopic
[00:32] <ApplesInArrays> Is it off topic?
[00:33] <ApplesInArrays> I'm trying to diagnose space
[00:33] <ApplesInArrays> I was considering a possibility
[00:33] <pragmaticenigma> ApplesInArrays, talking about your service provider is offtopic
[00:33] <Nathan2055> When loading Kubuntu (or any Ubuntu derivative for that matter) into VirtualBox, should you choose Ubuntu or Linux (Other) as the OS?
[00:33] <ApplesInArrays> Alright, fine. /dev/simfs<PHONE_NUMBER>00     0  100% /  is the only issue at hand. there is no service provider.
[00:33] <niceties> ApplesInArrays: if it's not the standard port. You need to tell it what port to use. And no matter what your router or even your internet provider might block the port. Your router you can fix.
[00:34] <swordsmanz> ApplesInArrays dont expect internal disk managment to give you acurate readings if you are useing a hyporvisor
[00:34] <ApplesInArrays> niceties: I figured out the SCP thing. I moved on to just figuring out what's happening with disk space on ForeignIP
[00:34] <pragmaticenigma> Nathan2055, you can use either. the setting is just for presets that are considered optimal for the system you are installing.
[00:34] <gadsdin> I think I found what's wrong. My actual root partition isn't mounting properly on boot. Any ideas why this might be?
[00:35] <pragmaticenigma> Nathan2055, it just makes sure the default memory, networking and disk space setups are optimal
[00:35] <ApplesInArrays> #du -ch <--- this command tells me how much I have free? I get 36k
[00:35] <Nathan2055> So all that does is pull the default settings, which I usually change anyway?
[00:36] <swordsmanz> ApplesInArrays this is a hypervised box right ?
[00:36] <niceties> ApplesInArrays: what's wrong with a simpler protocol like ftp or smb
[00:36] <ApplesInArrays> Sorry, let me look that word up.
[00:36] <ApplesInArrays> niceties: I'm no longer transfering files anywhere.
[00:36] <swordsmanz> ApplesInArrays a vps
[00:36] <ApplesInArrays> It's a VM
[00:36] <ApplesInArrays> but according to rules, there is no service provider.
[00:37] <Nathan2055> pragmaticenigma: So all that does is pull the default settings, which I usually change anyway?
[00:37] <swordsmanz> ApplesInArrays well ubuntus disk managment is not going to give you acurate readings
[00:37] <ApplesInArrays> swordsmanz: I see. I know of 'dh -i' and 'du -ch'. 'dh -i' says I'm using up my whole disk.
[00:38] <ApplesInArrays> Alright, so ubuntu disk usage is not useful for VM. Is that what you're saying?
[00:38] <swordsmanz> yes
[00:38] <ApplesInArrays> I see.
[00:38] <swordsmanz> well a vm with a shared fs/ kernal
[00:38] <ApplesInArrays> I think that's what I'm dealing with.
[00:38] <phix> hi, I am setting up ufw, I want to setup a NAT MASQUERADE by editing /etc/ufw/before.rules, I am wondering if I set the output interface as eth0 or br0 (eth0 is added to br0 too as well as my VMs)
[00:39] <ApplesInArrays> based on what I find for /dev/simfs
[00:39] <rocketeer> How can I encrypt an external drive in gnome-disks?
[00:39] <matt444> I need to buy a replacement harddrive for an all-in-one desktop
[00:39] <matt444> how do I know which type to get?
[00:39] <rocketeer> I have cryptsetup installed
[00:39] <phix> rocketeer: Not sure about gnome disk, but I would use the command line app cryptsetup
[00:39] <swordsmanz> ApplesInArrays if its a OpenVZ box then yes thats how OpenVZ can put so many boxes on relatively low end hardware
[00:40] <ApplesInArrays> swordsmanz: I think I'm beginning to understand.
[00:40] <phix> rocketeer: Then when I plug the drive in Nautalus will prompt you for hte key
[00:40] <ApplesInArrays> swordsmanz: Really thank you for pointing this out to me so clearly.
[00:40] <rocketeer> phix: I just don't want to mess something up by encrypting the wrong thing
[00:40] <ApplesInArrays> Anyways, I figured out SCP today, learned about the limitations of some of my machines.
[00:41] <ApplesInArrays> I thought htop was telling me the whole story.
[00:41] <ApplesInArrays> htop, du -ch, df -i, scp
[00:41] <phix> rocketeer: I see
[00:42] <phix> rocketeer: well you can pastebin the command and I can check it if you like
[00:42] <rocketeer> And it's driving me nuts because there is an encrypt option in disks but it's greyed out
[00:42] <niceties> ApplesInArrays: sounds like you punched through only to find out your not authorized to access the drive. You have no rw privileges.
[00:42] <ApplesInArrays> niceties: for the last time, I'm not transfering files.
[00:42] <bubbasaures> rocketeer, Just be aware that encrypting will keep others out including you if something goes wrong.
[00:42] <ApplesInArrays> I'm on a machine with an obese MySQL DB
[00:42] <ApplesInArrays> That stopped working a few days ago because I have 0bytes free.
[00:42] <rocketeer> Yep I know, which I why I'd like to not mess up my laptop
[00:43] <niceties> ApplesInArrays: still sounds like an ownership issue.
[00:43] <ApplesInArrays> Why does it sound like an ownership issue?
[00:43] <ApplesInArrays> root@Master:~# df -i
[00:43] <ApplesInArrays> I'm root
[00:44] <rocketeer> Apples: On which machine?
[00:44] <ApplesInArrays> On "ForeignIP"
[00:44] <ApplesInArrays> Where I have 0% free on the drive since I have an obese MySQL DB
[00:44] <rocketeer> Oh ok sorry
[00:45] <niceties> ApplesInArrays: root still may be a blocked user
[00:45] <ApplesInArrays> niceties: it's not.
[00:46] <rocketeer> man cryptsetup is probably the most opaque pages I've seen in a long time
[00:46] <niceties> ApplesInArrays: Just a wild guess. Maybe root needs a password set on the server
[00:46] <ApplesInArrays> niceties: The disk is full. End of story.
[00:47] <Nathan2055> Does dist-upgrade preform a full upgrade to the next major Ubuntu version of just update packages?
[00:48] <daftykins> Nathan2055: just update packages
[00:48] <daftykins> as per the man page
[00:48] <Nathan2055> The only difference between that an upgrade is that some packages may be removed, right?
[00:49] <Nathan2055> *and
[00:49] <Asblarf> Nathan2055: or added
[00:49] <Nathan2055> Right.
[00:51] <niceties> ApplesInArrays: so your mysql filled up the disk
[00:51] <ApplesInArrays> niceties: That's right.
[00:51] <ApplesInArrays> It was scraping
[00:52] <ApplesInArrays> but now that I have 5 shitty VMs paid for 1 year and I understand SCP, I can just get a good VM and have them all 'report' to a 'master VM'
[00:52] <daftykins> don't use that kind of language please
[00:52] <rocketeer> *paranoid* disks lists my external drive as /dev/sdb1, so can I run cryptsetup -y -v luksFormat /dev/sdb1 without breaking anything else *paranoid*
[00:52] <rocketeer> Can you tell I've lost drives by mistyping before
[00:52] <ApplesInArrays> daftykins: You're right. Sorry.
[00:53] <ApplesInArrays> Now. I'm sorry, someone said before some alternatives to SCP?
[00:53] <niceties> So we been through all this just to figure out You want to keep your sql data on remote servers
[00:54] <daftykins> not exactly the most direct of questions ever =|
[00:54] <ApplesInArrays> Nah, it was learning SCP and figuring out about disk usage.
[00:54] <ApplesInArrays> The actual application shouldn't matter, should it?
[00:55] <daftykins> are you not wanting to resolve this full disk issue then? :P
[00:55] <ApplesInArrays> I will get a new VM (no provider), throw the SQL on there, clear out all of my other servers.
[00:56] <ApplesInArrays> Then just use them as slave IPs for scraping.
[00:57] <daftykins> re: SCP, just create a simple user who IS allowed to SCP and use them as a go between
[00:57] <daftykins> safer than enabling for root
[00:57] <daftykins> plus using root in general isn't really that wise
[00:57] <gorelative> what am i missing with extending an LVM
[00:57] <gorelative> disk
[00:57] <gorelative>   Device /dev/sda4 not found (or ignored by filtering).
[00:57] <gorelative> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 3 Jan 15 22:46 /dev/sda3
[00:58] <gorelative> its there 0.)
[00:58] <gorelative> o.O
[00:58] <gorelative> err tahts supposed to be /dev/sda3
[00:58] <niceties> daftykins: I suspected it could be group/user issue
[01:00] <daftykins> niceties: i don't even follow this guy so nevermind :)
[01:00] <daftykins> bed for me
[01:00] <niceties> Yes he is deep.
[01:01] <ApplesInArrays> Is "RM" a program like "SCP" is?
[01:01] <niceties> ApplesInArrays: so you wAnt to securely move the sql
[01:02] <ApplesInArrays> I know I can type "python script.py" and it will run the script... Does that mean 'python' is the program and 'script.py' is just a parameter?
[01:02] <NegativeFlare> ApplesInArrays: Yes.
[01:02] <ApplesInArrays> Why are some parameters passed with -[letter]?
[01:02] <ApplesInArrays> This means that rm/dir/cd are all 'programs'
[01:03] <Jordan_U> ApplesInArrays: Note that since linux is case sensitive, "RM" and "SCP" are actually not valid commands ("rm" and "scp" are though).
[01:03] <ApplesInArrays> wow, you're right.
[01:03] <ApplesInArrays> command not found
[01:03] <gorelative> anyone here familiar with LVM?
[01:03] <ApplesInArrays> However, I read somewhere i could use nicknames or something.
[01:03] <ApplesInArrays> alias?
[01:04] <Jordan_U> ApplesInArrays: They're all commands, all of them except "cd" (which is a builtin command, which is probably more than you need to know right now) could also be called programs, but we usually just call these types of things "commands".
[01:04] <ApplesInArrays> OMG, 'alias' is amazing.
[01:05] <ApplesInArrays> Ok, so some commands are 'built-in'
[01:05] <ubuntu-studio> moin!
[01:05] <ApplesInArrays> This is very interesting.
[01:05] <swordsmanz> Jordan_U acrually mv is the only one that is a command, the others are all programmes
[01:05] <ApplesInArrays> What if I made a nice program called 'SCP' that does financial stuff, and I wanted to be 'apt-get install scp' ? Who decides the "SCP" part?
[01:05] <ubuntu-studio> this is weird
[01:06] <ApplesInArrays> Oh, Canonical?
[01:06] <Jordan_U> swordsmanz: What definition are you using for "program"?
[01:06] <ApplesInArrays> No wait, it's the repositories, right?
[01:06] <ApplesInArrays> That's why sometimes you have to add repositories to get obscure programs
[01:07] <swordsmanz> Jordan_U a programme that is separte from bash, that needs compileing and stuff that is its own programme
[01:07] <ApplesInArrays> and I already know that 'bash' comes with a loaded namespace already.
[01:07] <ApplesInArrays> and that you can extend it.
[01:07] <swordsmanz> in that it exists as a seperate entity and is a programme in its own right, and is totaly seperate from bash
[01:08] <ApplesInArrays> Does that mean you could uninstall them?
[01:08] <bekks> ApplesInArrays: "bash" is a shell and has no "namespace".
[01:08] <swordsmanz> ApplesInArrays yes
[01:08] <Jordan_U> swordsmanz: Which would also include "rm" and "dir".
[01:08] <swordsmanz> Jordan_U yup also programmes
[01:08] <bekks> ApplesInArrays: It has a set of built in commands, but thats not what you would call a "namespace" in programming languages.
[01:09] <ApplesInArrays> I added the path to PHP to the 'namespace'
[01:09] <ApplesInArrays> so I just have to type 'php script.php'
[01:09] <ApplesInArrays> I think it's like Window's ENV Path, yeah?
[01:09] <ApplesInArrays> maybe 'namespace' is the wrong word.
[01:09] <Stanley00> ApplesInArrays: well, it's called PATH env variable too :P
[01:10] <bekks> that namespace is just called "path" - the absolute names of directories where binaries are searched.
[01:11] <phix> so any insight into my ufw question?
[01:14] <swordsmanz> Jordan_U well programmes is a bit of a stretch for the file management stuff, becouse they are actually commands of the programme linux not the programme bash
[01:14] <ApplesInArrays> Alright guys, another question.
[01:15] <ApplesInArrays> df -h shows 5% used. df -i shows 100% use. I read up on what http://www.linux.org/threads/intro-to-inodes.4130/ inodes are.
[01:15] <ApplesInArrays> It seems that If I can move some stuff around, stuff won't be so full anymore
[01:15] <ApplesInArrays> inodes are like 'pointers' to the data, not the data itself. If I could allocate more spcae to inodes, I would be able to write more, yes?
[01:15] <phix> gang?
[01:15] <Jordan_U> swordsmanz: Let's continue this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:15] <phix> you there?
[01:16] <Asblarf> phix: who's your gang?
[01:16] <phix> Gang of Ubuntu users
[01:17] <phix> That's the correct term right?
[01:17] <ApplesInArrays> Alright, so I need to allocate more inodes
[01:17] <Stanley00> phix: can you please repeat the question? I've just join here, cannot see it...
[01:17] <phix> Stanley00: I am setting up ufw, I want to setup a NAT MASQUERADE by editing /etc/ufw/before.rules, I am wondering if I set the output interface as eth0 or br0 (eth0 is added to br0 too as well as my VMs)
[01:19] <Stanley00> phix: well, why don't you try both to see what'll work for you. there're only two options, so easy :P
[01:19] <wonderworld> phix: you masquerade the bridge
[01:20] <SrPx> I'm trying to download ubuntu, but it links me to "ubuntu-14.04-1.desktop-amd64.iso" is that correct for a macbook pro?
[01:20] <wafflejock> ApplesInArrays, it appears you can't increase the number of inodes on an existing ext4 filesystem
[01:20] <ApplesInArrays> wafflejock: I just found out the same thing!
[01:20] <wafflejock> ApplesInArrays, I wonder do you know why you would have so many inodes?
[01:20] <ApplesInArrays> So i'm trying to figure out if every row in my MySQL DB takes up an inode!
[01:21] <wafflejock> ApplesInArrays, hmm that is strange
[01:21] <antimatroid> has anyone found a nice way to automatically prevent dropbox syncing for specific networks (eg. when tethering off my phone)
[01:21] <Asblarf> ApplesInArrays: it probably does not
[01:21] <ApplesInArrays> Asblarf: That's what I think, too
[01:21] <Asblarf> ApplesInArrays: that would be a pretty bad design
[01:21] <ApplesInArrays> but df -h shows 5% usage. df -i shows 100% usage.
[01:22] <wafflejock> !Mac | SrPx
[01:22] <Asblarf> That basically means you have a lot of very small files somewhere on your fs
[01:22] <ApplesInArrays> Hmm... Maybe I can find out where
[01:22] <phix> Stanley00: wouldn't that break the Internet?
[01:23] <phix> Stanley00: also, what's with naming female character with the same letter for the first and last name?
[01:23] <wonderworld> ApplesInArrays: no. every file has it's own unique inode. a mysql db consists of files for every table. one table in your mysql db, no matter how big it is, consumes one inode
[01:23] <ApplesInArrays> wonderworld: that makes sense.
[01:24] <Asblarf> it sure does
[01:24] <Stanley00> phix: hmm... you try, if it doesn't work, you can revert and try another. But as wonderworld said, " you masquerade the bridge"
[01:24] <wafflejock> SrPx, basically if you have a 64bit processor that looks right to me
[01:25] <ApplesInArrays> For anyone else, does "sudo find . -xdev -type f | cut -d "/" -f 2 | sort | uniq -c | sort -n" help you figure out where your inode usage is?
[01:25] <ApplesInArrays> for i in /*; do echo $i; find $i |wc -l; done
[01:25] <ApplesInArrays> for /tmp it's HUGE
[01:25] <SrPx> wafflejock: hmm thanks but that is actually not very informative since my model is not listed :( anyway I just found it weird that it said amd, but alright. THank you!
[01:26] <ApplesInArrays> and I found out what it was!
[01:26] <ApplesInArrays> I have a TON of Curl cookies!
[01:27] <21WAA0UI1> hello
[01:27] <ApplesInArrays> maybe I should figure out how to delete files in /tmp older than a day?
[01:27] <Asblarf> ApplesInArrays: you're so energetic, you remind me of my cat when he's on acid
[01:27] <ApplesInArrays> Asblarf: This is so exciting
[01:27] <wafflejock> SrPx, amd64 is just the 64bit architecture standard basically still applies to intel 64 bit as well it is confusing though
[01:28] <SrPx> I see!
[01:28] <SrPx> ty
[01:29] <ApplesInArrays> I think tonight is a good night to figure out how to write a .sh that clears out /tmp
[01:29] <Asblarf> ApplesInArrays: I can tell ;)
[01:29] <ApplesInArrays> Or does anyone else have a better route?
[01:30] <wonderworld> you could write a book on how to troll tech channels
[01:30] <MDTech-us_MAN> I tried changing the ssh port by editing /etc/ssh/ssh_config and uncommentign the "Port" directive
[01:30] <ApplesInArrays> Hey, I just want to thank everyone here.
[01:30] <ApplesInArrays> inode usage back down to 20%. HD Usage still 5%. 0 cookies.
[01:30] <MDTech-us_MAN> but ssh is still listening on 22
[01:31] <MDTech-us_MAN> I did do service ssh restart
[01:31] <wonderworld> you need /etc/sshD_config
[01:31] <wafflejock> ^^
[01:31] <wonderworld> ssh_config is client
[01:31] <MDTech-us_MAN> ahhhhh
[01:31] <MDTech-us_MAN> I seee
[01:31] <licnep> so i put this entry in fstab to mount a windows partition "UUID=E41E58801E584E24 /media/alox/Windows ntfs-3g defaults,fmask=0000,umask=000,dmask=0000,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0", and i mount it with sudo, but then the regular user doesnt have write access, anything i'm missing?
[01:32] <MDTech-us_MAN> thanks wonderworld
[01:35] <bubbasaures> licnep, here is mine, /dev/sda7      /mnt/Windows   ntfs-3g   defaults   0   0  I subbed the UUID with the actual partition
[01:36] <bubbasaures> licnep, No idea what you mean my sudo mount, unless it's fstab to edit, should be gksudo
[01:36] <ApplesInArrays> Now. I figure that one solution to my problem would be to create a *.sh with "rm /tmp/*" . but then it would need to run as sudo, yeah?
[01:36] <ApplesInArrays> ahh, nm.
[01:36] <ApplesInArrays> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting
[01:37] <licnep> bubbasaures: i mean i'm mounting it from a terminal with "sudo mount", but even mounting it from nautilus the result is the same, i'll try your line and see if it works
[01:38] <SrPx> Does anyone know why ubuntu installed in parallels desktop on a Macbook Pro Retina host, with 2880x1800 (native) resolution, looks blurry? http://i.imgur.com/O6XGNtS.png doesn't look like it is 2880x1800
[01:38] <Asblarf> ApplesInArrays: why would write a script that would contain a one liner ?
[01:38] <Asblarf> +you
[01:38] <ApplesInArrays> Asblarf: so I can crontab -e it.
[01:39] <Asblarf> ApplesInArrays: what about finding the source of your problem instead of fixing the symptoms?
[01:39] <lotuspsychje> SrPx: what grafix driver active?
[01:39] <ApplesInArrays> Asblarf: I have to write all those cookies so i can scrape FinancialTimes.com
[01:39] <Asblarf> oO
[01:39] <ApplesInArrays> or TheDiplomat.com
[01:39] <ApplesInArrays> I forget which
[01:39] <ApplesInArrays> one of them has a redirect
[01:39] <ApplesInArrays> like an intermediate page
[01:40] <Asblarf> ApplesInArrays: you can't be true
[01:40] <ApplesInArrays> #52 http://thediplomat.com/2015/01/the-indian-ocean-zone-of-peace-reality-vs-illusion/
[01:41] <ApplesInArrays> #57 http://thediplomat.com/2015/01/thailands-ruling-junta-threatens-to-take-action-if-protests-occur/
[01:41] <ApplesInArrays> Why not?
[01:41] <lotuspsychje> ApplesInArrays: keep it ontopic please
[01:41] <ApplesInArrays> lotuspsychje: You're right. I just want to show that I am true.
[01:41] <ApplesInArrays> Anyways, I think I have the bash thing down.
[01:41] <ApplesInArrays> just have to chmod
[01:42] <SrPx> lotuspsychje: how do I know? Also, why parallels only allows me to alloc 32mb of video memory to the guest os? Isn't that tooo low?
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> SrPx: can you sudo lshw -C video please?
[01:44] <lotuspsychje> SrPx: it could be a paralel issue also, ask in the mac channel for best retina settings maybe
[01:45] <SrPx> lordbachus: pastebin.com/uH8R9XMr
[01:45] <SrPx> oh damn, lotuspsychje *
[01:46] <ApplesInArrays> Alright. I have the ClearTemp.sh working every hour. Just has 'rm /tmp/*' with chmod 700
[01:47] <Asblarf> ApplesInArrays: did you compile your script? You need to if you want to avoid memory leaks on the long term.
[01:49] <lotuspsychje> SrPx: can you put on pasteubuntu plz, that pastebin lags on me recently
[01:49] <ApplesInArrays> Asblarf: I'm working on compiling the script in Ada to ensure reliability in deleting the /tmp/* files
[01:49] <SrPx> haha sure
[01:50] <samthewildone> touch me
[01:50] <samthewildone> :\
[01:50]  * samthewildone is working hard with gimp
[01:50] <SrPx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9759272/
[01:50] <samthewildone> I'm so lazy but, for a reason.
[01:50] <Jordan_U> ApplesInArrays: Just deleting all files in /tmp/ will lead to problems. Programs do expect *some* persistance of that data, just not across reboots.
[01:50] <samthewildone> when using images on the web whats the best format to be used for fast loading times ?
[01:50] <ApplesInArrays> Jordan_U: I only find cookie Curls in there. PHP Sessions are saved elsewhere
[01:51] <samthewildone> Quality does matter but, I don't want my image taking more than 1 second to load.
[01:51] <ApplesInArrays> Oh, maybe I will just delete files that start with "CURLCOOKIE"
[01:51] <ApplesInArrays> That seems smarter
[01:51] <lotuspsychje> SrPx: yeah its using the product: Accelerated Virtual Video Adapter from paralel
[01:51] <Jordan_U> ApplesInArrays: That sounds much more reasonable.
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> SrPx: you could try best retina settings in your mac maybe, not sure if you will get it better then the blur
[01:52] <ApplesInArrays> rm /tmp/CURLCOOKIE*
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> SrPx: virtualizing grafix can never be as good as the real thing
[01:52] <SrPx> I seee...
[01:53] <SrPx> okayy thank you :)
[01:53] <ApplesInArrays> Hey guys, thanks for helping me keep this enterprise server together
[01:53] <ApplesInArrays> been a huge help with inodes/memory and bash and all
[01:54] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: SrPx: Ubuntu should not be looking that pixelated though, even in a VM. My guess is that parallels isn't configured properly.
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: that surely possible
[01:55] <Asblarf> ApplesInArrays: cool, glad we could help
[01:56] <hydrajump> why can't I get upstart to work with `start on net-device-up IFACE=eth0` ubuntu 14.04?
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> !upstart | hydrajump maybe some info here
[01:56] <hydrajump> I've tried with INTERFACE=eth0 but I can't get even a simple `echo "test" > /tmp/test`
[01:57] <hydrajump> lotuspsychje: thanks I've been through it several times and googled as well, but I don't understand why specifically net-device-up isn't working for me
[01:57] <lotuspsychje> hydrajump: also try the guys from #upstart, they also might know
[01:57] <hydrajump> ah good idea
[01:57] <hydrajump> thanks
[01:58] <princejose> Hi
[01:58] <princejose> .players
[01:59] <jamie_> hey i am having a problem with all of a sudden upstart takes over my processor for some odd reason and making the computer freeze temporally
[01:59] <welly> Hello all. I'm struggling with iptables a bit. I'm trying to open access to mysql from one U14.04 server to another
[02:00] <welly> This is my iptables as it stands: http://pastie.org/9834453
[02:00] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | welly
[02:01] <andre__> hi
[02:01] <welly> lotuspsychje, yep! using iptables. I'm struggling to get it working. It's fine for SSH, PING and HTTP just not mysql
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> jamie_: htop can help you find whats causing cpu 100%?
[02:01] <andre__> can someone help me with a problem i am having?
[02:01] <Guest16800> can someone help me?
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> Guest16800: if you ask your question, we could
[02:01] <Guest16800> ssorry
[02:02] <jamie_> lotuspsychje: is that a program
[02:02] <lotuspsychje> jamie_: htop in terminal
[02:02] <jamie_> okay one sec want to look it up real fast
[02:02] <Guest16800> on my taskbar, all but one of my windows i can click on to unfold them and have a white arrow next to them
[02:02] <lotuspsychje> jamie_: maybe check your logs also, syslog,dmesg
[02:02] <Guest16800> but, one has a unfilled arrow, which i cannot click on
[02:02] <Guest16800> but the application is running, as i hear its audio
[02:04] <lotuspsychje> Guest16800: explain a bit more clear mate, taskbar and white arrow?
[02:04] <Guest16800> so, on windows a taskbar is the thing on which you can click on to unfold windows
[02:05] <Guest16800> is it the same name on ubuntu?
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> Guest16800: on unity sidebar windows minimize back to the icon, is that what you mean?
[02:06] <bubbasaures> Guest16800, screenshot please
[02:06] <devzdesilva> hey
[02:06] <Guest16800> ok,
[02:06] <Bashing-om> andrex: State your issue, to the channel.
[02:06] <jamie_> lotuspsychje: im not really sure what to look for
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> jamie_: dmesg in terminal should show relevant problems
[02:07] <jamie_> and syslog returns no such command
[02:07] <lotuspsychje> jamie_: you need the log viewer icon from your programs
[02:07] <lotuspsychje> jamie_: or browse to /var/log/syslog manually
[02:08] <jamie_> that is a lot easier for me... okay one sec taking a look
[02:08] <Guest16800> http://imgur.com/xhZEgudhttp://imgur.com/xhZEgud
[02:08] <Guest16800> see how on the left side of my screen, to the left of the google chrome logo, there is a white arrow?
[02:09] <devzdesilva> that link's not working
[02:09] <Guest16800> if you look 3 icons below it, you will see one with a white arrow but its just an outline
[02:09] <Guest16800> oh yeah sorry
[02:09] <Guest16800> http://imgur.com/xhZEgud
[02:09] <Guest16800> double paste
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> Guest16800: you mean the grey icon?
[02:10] <Guest16800> yeah
[02:10] <Guest16800> a few minutes ago, i could open it
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> Guest16800: wich package is this?
[02:10] <Guest16800> but now
[02:10] <Guest16800> i cannot
[02:10] <Guest16800> it is minecraft
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> Guest16800: from wine?
[02:10] <Guest16800> i was developing a mod
[02:10] <Guest16800> no, the linux version
[02:11] <Guest16800> i should clarify, technic pack
[02:11] <Guest16800> for some reason it doesnt have a proper icon,
[02:11] <Guest16800> but im not worried about that
[02:11] <devzdesilva> why won't you just restart your comp.
[02:11] <Guest16800> im worried about the fact that i cant click it
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> Guest16800: might be something wrong with the package itself
[02:11] <Guest16800> i have tried
[02:11] <Guest16800> Oh ok
[02:12] <Guest16800> have you ever seen anyone else have this problem?
[02:12] <lotuspsychje> Guest16800: try also running it from terminal, see what errors you get
[02:12] <Guest16800> just wondering
[02:12] <jamie_> lotuspsychje: if i use the past bin can you take a look the end of syslog and give me a hand
[02:12] <lotuspsychje> Guest16800: also try the reboot as devzdesilva sugests
[02:12] <Guest16800> i have tried multiple times
[02:12] <lotuspsychje> jamie_: paste to pasteubuntu plz
[02:12] <Guest16800> but, the log file in cmd is short
[02:12] <Guest16800> since its a .jar i use cmd to open it
[02:13] <Guest16800> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9759339/
[02:13] <devzdesilva> send a screenshot of the terminal log...that'll help
[02:13] <jamie_> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9759341/
[02:13] <Guest16800> wow
[02:13] <Guest16800> i feel stupid
[02:14] <Guest16800> well
[02:14] <Guest16800> i sort of accidentally had it open behind google chrome
[02:14] <Guest16800> so maybe it thought it was open?
[02:14] <Guest16800> either way sorry to disturb u guys
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> jamie_: dont see anything suspicious there, can you pasteubuntu dmesg also?
[02:15] <jamie_> okay one sec
[02:16] <jamie_> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9759351/
[02:17] <jamie_> im good at solving it.... but i have no error that i see that explains it
[02:18] <mojtaba> Hi, By chance do you know how to fix fingerprint in Thinkpad 440S (Ubuntu 14.04 LTS)?
[02:18] <jamie_> and im used to working from error messages... kinda useless for the most part
[02:18] <MichaelHabib1> hi, is this line looks correct ?  tar -xfv wiki.tar.gz
[02:18] <MichaelHabib1> I get :
[02:18] <MichaelHabib1> tar: v: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[02:18] <MichaelHabib1> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> jamie_: wich ubuntu version is this?
[02:18] <jamie_> 14.10
[02:19] <MichaelHabib1> I know the file does exist !
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> jamie_: this doesnt look right 34.231884] systemd-logind[1132]: Failed to start unit<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Unknown unit<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:20] <swordsmanz> anyone running pantheon as there WM ?
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> jamie_: did you install systemd or something?
[02:21] <jamie_> no
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> MichaelHabib1: try rar or 7zip maybe
[02:21] <Bashing-om> MichaelHabib1: Are you working in the same direcory as the .tar.gz file is ? You do an "ls" do you see that target file ?
[02:21] <jamie_> lotuspsychje:  okay.... I hate to kinda run in the middle but have to go take care of something important..... crap, Ill be back in a few
[02:22] <jamie_> help who needs it, I will be back in a little
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> jamie_: kk good luck
[02:22] <MichaelHabib1> Bashing-om: I'm , I used [TAB] to auto complete the file name and I triple checked it exists.
[02:23] <hydrajump> isn't `sudo ifconfig eth0 down && sudo ifconfig eth0 up` equivalent to unplugging and plugging in an ethernet cable?
[02:23] <gadsdin> I'm getting a kernel panic and am currently trying to fix it using initramfs. I think my linux-image* packages may be deleted. How can I best reinstall them from initramfs?
[02:24] <aRdoR> Hi
[02:24] <happyfr0gg> Is there an Ubuntu app that allows me to record audio I hear from my headphones or speakers?
[02:24] <aRdoR> Where do I look up hardware support for the HP Steam 11-d010nr Notebook, Looking to run Elemenrty OS or Mint from USB or Flash Card Boot.
[02:25] <MichaelHabib1> hydrajump: I think it is.. Most of the time I do  sudo ifdown -av  to shutdown all network connections (just incase you didnt know )
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> aRdoR: only ubuntu support here mate
[02:25] <aRdoR> I havn't bought the laptop yet, I am looking for one I can use linux first and foremost but it needs to be light weight small and ideally cheap.
[02:25] <mojtaba> Hi, By chance do you know how to fix fingerprint in Thinkpad 440S (Ubuntu 14.04 LTS)?
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> aRdoR: xubuntu/lubuntu are light
[02:26] <hydrajump> MichaelHabib1: It's weird but after I do ifconfig eth0 up I get `network unreachable` and I have to reboot for networking to work agian
[02:26] <hydrajump> very odd
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> hydrajump: could be network-manager also
[02:26] <aRdoR> Thanks Lotuspsychje: I ment lite as in pounds/grams
[02:27] <gadsdin> aRdoR: xubuntu - lightweight, good-looking, and free
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> aRdoR: many laptops will work with ubuntu
[02:27] <mojtaba> could you please tell me what is the difference between KVM and Virtual Machine?
[02:27] <mojtaba> Which one is better?
[02:27] <aRdoR> hydrajump: could it be Spanning Tree?
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> !kvm | mojtaba
[02:28] <aRdoR> lotuspsychje: is there a list kept some where?
[02:28] <hydrajump> MichaelHabib1: sudo ifdown eth0 and sudo ifup eth0 seems to work. Now I jsut need to figure out why upstart isn't reacting to these events. thanks MichaelHabib1
[02:28] <mojtaba> lotuspsychje: What is its difference with virtual machine?
[02:28] <mojtaba> lotuspsychje: I want to run win7 and another ubuntu machine
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> aRdoR: there is an page that shows supported hardware yes, but ubuntu supports more hardware then the list
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> mojtaba: virtualbox will fill in all your needs
[02:29] <aRdoR> lotuspsychje: I just found this, reading it now. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2258262
[02:30] <mojtaba> lotuspsychje: I want to learn too at the same time!
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> aRdoR: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> mojtaba: you can install ubuntu and run w7 from virtualbox perfectly
[02:32] <aRdoR> Thanks lotuspsychje: thanks, not listed. but this is indeed the link I was looking for.
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> aRdoR: mostly you will buy an uefi machine, and ubuntu will run just fine on it
[02:33] <mojtaba> lotuspsychje: what about the kvm? what can it do? (sorry for asking too much. I would really like to learn sth new.)
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> aRdoR: ill recomend you 14.04
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> mojtaba: read that kvm trigger mate or the ubuntu manual
[02:33] <eatyourguitar> does ubuntu lag behind new drivers for new chipsets released by debian?
[02:33] <mojtaba> lotuspsychje: sure, thanks
[02:34] <MichaelHabib1> Q : can i  chmod without sudo  from command line ?
[02:34] <MichaelHabib1> (logged in through SSH )
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> !chmod | MichaelHabib1
[02:34] <eatyourguitar> and is it possible that ubuntu has drivers before debian does?
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> eatyourguitar: whats your issue exactly mate?
[02:36] <SrPx> my ubuntu came with office (wtf???????) and a lot of directories inside home... can I delete all that? wtf
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> SrPx: what do you mean?
[02:37] <MichaelHabib1> lotuspsychje: using the same login details,  I can change file permission from FTP  but when I do  "chmod" from Command-line logged in using SSH  I "Must" use sudo .. then it says my account doesnt have sudo permission !
[02:37] <kernix> hey all
[02:37] <SrPx> lotuspsychje: ~/Downloads ~/Music ~/Public (??) ~/Desktop ...
[02:38] <lotuspsychje> SrPx: thos folders are default
[02:38] <SrPx> rm -rf ~/*
[02:38] <SrPx> I don't want those folders I want to organize it my own way
[02:38] <happyfr0gg> #elementary ----------- elementary support
[02:38] <happyfr0gg> #elementary-dev ------- elementary desktop development
[02:38] <happyfr0gg> #elementary-offtopic -- general chat
[02:38] <happyfr0gg> #elementary-web ------- elementary web development (for elementaryos.org)
[02:38] <happyfr0gg> #elementary-design ---- elementary design
[02:38] <happyfr0gg> #elementary-apps ------ elementary community apps development
[02:38] <SrPx> can I?
[02:38] <victor> someone here with xubuntu?
[02:38] <SrPx> or will it cause problems?
[02:39] <bubbasaures> victor, the real issue is what the channel needs
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> SrPx: you can tweak what you like in your /home
[02:39] <victor> bubbasaures, you have the channel of xubuntu?
[02:40] <lotuspsychje> SrPx: not sure of what it will do to nautilus icon (rightmouse)
[02:40] <bubbasaures> victor, No, xubuntu is supported here, you have to describe the problem for help to the channel.
 I plan on buying a new computer soon
[02:40] <eatyourguitar> but I'm not sure if I am getting a single core or dual core
[02:40] <lotuspsychje> eatyourguitar: ubuntu will run fine on most hardware
[02:40] <victor> Ok, thanks, my issue is with my external monitor
[02:41] <eatyourguitar> the single core might have multithreading
[02:41] <victor> I already have installed the drivers
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> eatyourguitar: a computer with ssd is recomended
[02:41] <victor> AMD drivers omega
[02:41] <eatyourguitar> I can link specific hardware
[02:41] <victor> and the external monitor is messed when i use the both on mirror conf
[02:41] <danato> hey I use a 3G dongle modem to connect to the internet, to make it work I install its driver, but it doesnt work anymore after a reboot or if I disconnect it, they way ive been doing is reinstalling the drivers each time. Is there a way to make changes permanent?
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> eatyourguitar: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[02:42] <eatyourguitar> zotac zboz PI320 pico
[02:42] <eatyourguitar> comes with windows 8.1
[02:43] <eatyourguitar> I don't know if the HDMI will support sound + video in ubuntu
[02:44] <victor> Yes, support video and audio over HDMI
[02:44] <victor> you need to change the sound options
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> eatyourguitar: there's an article here: http://liliputing.com/2014/10/run-ubuntu-zotac-zbox-pico-mini-pc-kinda.html
[02:44] <victor> in the gnome sound
[02:44] <victor> control
[02:44] <victor> I'm leaving
[02:44] <victor> thanks
[02:49] <RonWhoCares> How do I mount /media/rpiggott/Users as  Ubuntu boots
[02:51] <mojtaba> Hi, By chance do you know how to fix fingerprint in Thinkpad 440S (Ubuntu 14.04 LTS)?
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> mojtaba: maybe this can help: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/how-to-get-your-fingerprint-reader-working-in-ubuntu
[02:53] <mojtaba> lotuspsychje: It did not find mine!
[02:56] <Bashing-om> RonWhoCares: That can be done in 'fstab' file. See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131 <-bodhi.zazen -Understanding fstab , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab . If this is a USB drive, watch the mount options.
[02:56] <shponguluma> Anyone running kali linux or other dist on tablet?
[02:56] <RonWhoCares> not a USB device
[02:57] <Stanley00> shponguluma: this channel is for Ubuntu support only :P
[02:57] <astra05> #love
[02:58] <eatyourguitar> so this Zotac ZBOX pico looks like the guy got it running but no wifi
[02:58] <Success> How do I defragment on LUKS fs, my SSD is getting slow?
[02:58] <eatyourguitar> and it can be installed I guess
[02:59] <bubbasaures> Success, you don't.
[02:59] <eatyourguitar> he was running it as a usb boot
[02:59] <Success> bubbasaures well why not
[02:59] <bubbasaures> Success, linux partitioning does not need fragmenting
[03:00] <Stanley00> Success: and basically, encrypting will slow thing down :3
[03:00] <bubbasaures> if you fill up the HD that may cause issues
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> Success: also never defrag an ssd
[03:02] <bubbasaures> 14.04 has trim built in but you can tweak around with that Success
[03:03] <eatyourguitar> is this supported http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102053
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> eatyourguitar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/395941/installation-of-ubuntu-12-04-on-nuc-d54250wyk
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> bubbasaures: you got ssd yourself on ubuntu?
[03:07] <bubbasaures> lotuspsychje, Yeah, several
[03:08] <Kento> Can ayone help me please? I have issues installing wireless rt3290sta driver..?
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> Kento: can you pasteubuntu sudo lshw -C network
[03:09] <gwb3_> Hello, I was about to revert my system to ubuntu-minimal via APT, was just curious how I would add linux-image-generic to the following line so it is correct syntax: sudo aptitude markauto '~i!~nubuntu-minimal'
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> bubbasaures: cool, check your invite
[03:09] <bubbasaures> lotuspsychje, I have pm off
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> bubbasaures: i invited with server notice
[03:10] <Kento> lotuspsychje the outpus i just : PCI (sysfs)
[03:11] <bubbasaures> lotuspsychje IO have a whole lot off I think on now try again.
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> bubbasaures: ##linux-ssd
[03:12] <bubbasaures> ahh, doh thanks
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> Kento: it should give you more info
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | Kento
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> Kento: check also main realteks website for recent linux drivers/firmware
[03:19] <theaftermath> Hi all, been googling a lot about this issue. The disable touchpad when using keyboard setting is not working for me.
[03:20] <CtrlAltDelicious> hey everyone
[03:22] <Liam`> This is somewhat unrelated to Ubuntu directly, but I think someone may be able to help me. Long story short, I'm doing an extensive amount of SSH'ing into servers, and I want to be able to easily access my commands from within every server I ssh into (assuming all bash, assuming all function correctly). Currently, I have hostname/date/w all run when I ssh into a server, however when I try to set functions
[03:22] <Liam`> before I use "bash -l" (to initiate the actuall prompt), the functions aren't accessible
[03:22] <Liam`> Basically, any easy way to make a sub bash session access functions from the initial bash session, or rather, keep the initial bash session open after running the commands? idk.
[03:24] <bubbasaures> we do ubuntu only here
[03:27] <mynameisdeleted> so ... remote login and execution of a command in 12ms
[03:28] <mynameisdeleted> decent?
[03:28] <mynameisdeleted> 0.012s
[03:28] <mynameisdeleted> according to time command
[03:29] <CtrlAltDelicious> mynameisdeleted: Depends on the command?
[03:29] <Kento> Can anyone help me to install rt3290sta driver please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9759523/
[03:30] <mynameisdeleted> uptime or ls
[03:30] <Liam`> bubbasaures: It's related to Ubuntu.
[03:30] <mynameisdeleted> running locally takes about 0.002ms
[03:30] <mynameisdeleted> try timing how long it takes to use regular ssh key to log into a system
[03:30] <CtrlAltDelicious> mynameisdeleted: That sounds pretty good, man.
[03:30] <CtrlAltDelicious> ah, yea, its uaully half a second or less
[03:31] <mynameisdeleted> setting zsh shell and using host authentication with rlogin over private network helps a lot
[03:31] <mynameisdeleted> also using infiniband or fiberchannel (or 10gbe) helps a lot
[03:31] <mynameisdeleted> also using low latency kernels helps
[03:31] <Lee-> I'm trying to write a udev rule to set the autosuspend_delay_ms of my mouse whenever I connect it (to a usb3 port). My udev rule doesn't work and I've tried many variations of it without success. Can someone provide some assistance? Thanks! Here's an example of my rule: ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="1532", ATTR{power/autosuspend_delay_ms}="600000"
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> mynameisdeleted: keep it ontopic plz
[03:35] <eatyourguitar> can I use an apple supperdrive to boot a ubuntu distro on a NUC?
[03:37] <Kento> Can anyone help me please? I have problems installing rt3290 wireless driver . sudo lshw -C network output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/9759523/
[03:37] <pragmaticenigma> Liam`, what your trying to do is a bit more advanced than what this room is capable of supporting. You may want to check out some of the other rooms to see if someone there could be of better assistance
[03:37] <CtrlAltDelicious> lotuspsychje: So theres never any "fun" talk in here, when theres nothing else to talk about?
[03:37] <Liam`> pragmaticenigma: PM me possibly rooms I could ask in?
[03:37] <hd> Hola, consulta sobre impresor epson l200. Como se instala?
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | CtrlAltDelicious
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> !es | hd
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: the fun part of #ubuntu is solving problems
[03:38] <jMyles> I've been using a dual-monitor set up for a few days without issue (the built-in display on an "all-in-one" and an external via HDMI), but now suddenly the built-in won't work.  When, for example, I try to disable / enable it or change resolutions, it just briefly flashes the picture and then goes off.
[03:39] <jMyles> Of course in the back of my head, I'm dreading that this might be a hardware problem; it doesn't seem to behave properly before boot either.
[03:39] <CtrlAltDelicious> lotuspsychje: True, but theres not really an abundance of them.
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | jMyles try this maybe
[03:39] <jMyles> Although as I recall this computer was never much for display before the boot
[03:39] <CtrlAltDelicious> brb need to change IP addresses
[03:40] <jMyles> lotuspsychje: Will do.  In the mean time / also, is there a surefire way to determine if I'm experiencing a hardware issue with the built-in LCD?
[03:40] <bubbasaures> jMyles, test a live if you can.
[03:40] <Success> Lee- why the highlight?
[03:41] <jMyles> bubbasaures: That had occurred to me, but again, it doesn't even work in BIOS.  I surmise that somehow my video hard has been 'hard switched' to 'external only' mode or something.
[03:41] <Kento> :(  My wireless card driver support is too bad.
[03:41] <CtrlAltDelicious> back
[03:41] <bubbasaures> jMyles, ##hardware maybe
[03:41] <Lee-> Success, because your nick is a common word that people use when writing sentences regarding technical aspects.
[03:42] <Kento> Can anyone help me please? I have problems installing rt3290 wireless driver . sudo lshw -C network output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/9759523/
[03:42] <Success> Lee- oh okay i thought you needed me :)
[03:42] <Lee-> I do if you can help with my issue ;)
[03:43] <nahtnam> Hey! I need help uninstalling a font that I installed. To install the font, I just double clicked it and pressed install. I cant find the uninstall button, and the font is NOT in the usr/share/fonts folder either. Font info: http://i.imgur.com/mC3XoGI.png I need to uninstall this because in chrome, everything looks bold.
[03:43] <Success> oh god I wish, I have no idea what that is
[03:45] <CtrlAltDelicious> Is there any way to get rid of Unity in the newest Ubuntu/
[03:45] <CtrlAltDelicious> thats my big question.
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> !notunity | CtrlAltDelicious
[03:46] <SrPx> Hello, I've booted an ubuntu usb stick on macbook pro retina. It didn't recognize the partition I made using disk utils. I selected the option to chose my own partition. I found the one I made and clicked it. It asked me to chose between several different options (FAT, paging... etc). What should I chose?
[03:46] <bubbasaures> CtrlAltDelicious, sure install a different DE.
[03:46] <CtrlAltDelicious> Ah, also you used to be able to right click and edit icons to, for example, in wireshark add the gksudo command. Now when I click its just UI options.
[03:47] <nahtnam> Finally found it! it was in my home folder
[03:48] <raging_goblin> greetings
[03:49] <bubbasaures> hi raging_goblin
[03:50] <bubbasaures> give us your sorrows ;)
[03:50] <raging_goblin> can somebody help in installing skype on ubuntu studio 14 ? its not in the repos and the skype site says 12
[03:51] <shponguluma> Is it possible to make a galaxy tab 4 able to monitor packets etc. In networks? Like if someone wants to monitor their routers data in and out?
[03:51] <SrPx> nobody knwos? :( also, do I *need* to install that rEFind thing?
[03:51] <bubbasaures> raging_goblin, It is be sure the partners repo is open.
[03:52] <bubbasaures> raging_goblin, Look in software and updates 2nd tab
[03:52] <raging_goblin> ok thanks bubbasaures i ll look that up
[03:53] <CtrlAltDelicious> shponguluma: Depends, is it rooted?
[03:53] <bubbasaures> raging_goblin, two additional repos there independent and canonical partners I use both myself.
[03:55] <samthewildone> !offtopic
[03:55] <marthe> Are irc channels sequestered on specific networks?
[03:55] <shponguluma> It is, yes. CtrlAltDelicious
[03:56] <raging_goblin> bubbasaures thanks man and good night
[03:56] <bubbasaures> no prob night
[03:56] <CtrlAltDelicious> shponguluma: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=blake.hamilton.bitshark
[03:56] <CtrlAltDelicious> Install that, it will allow you to do full packet captures on all interfaces, and dump them to  pcap
[03:57] <shponguluma> Great, thanks man
[03:57] <CtrlAltDelicious> shponguluma: My pleasuer, amigo.  Let me know how it goes.
[03:58] <shponguluma> Will other apps with an ability to sniff air and such be opened for that aswell then?
[03:58] <pragmaticenigma> bubbasaures, skype isn't in any of the repos. he just needs to go to Skypes download page and grab the one labled for ubuntu 12, it will work on any version of ubuntu after 12.
[03:58] <bubbasaures> !skype | pragmaticenigma
[03:59] <bubbasaures> it is in the repos and suggested as first use
[04:00] <pragmaticenigma> I'll take a look, bubbasaures. I just grabbed the .deb file from Skype's website and it worked just as easily
[04:00] <CtrlAltDelicious> shponguluma: I dont understand your question.
[04:01] <bubbasaures> pragmaticenigma, I did to, however not everyone has the skills to deal with issue, common one no sound is all. Ubuntu's wiki's rhetoric is use there's is all. ;)
[04:01] <SrPx> What partition format should I chose when installing ubuntu with an usb stick on macbook pro?
[04:02] <bubbasaures> SrPx, ext4 is the default
[04:02] <pragmaticenigma> Ah, bubbasaures, I ran into the no sound initially too, now that you mentioned it. but it was a quick change in the config/options and got it working
[04:02] <shponguluma> Ctrlaltdelicious Well, i havent been able to monitor packets with fex a self-made ng-ettercap, checked everything so there seems to be a lock or smthn
[04:02] <SrPx> bubbasaures: thanks!
[04:02] <marthe> m
[04:02] <pragmaticenigma> !offtopic | CtrlAltDelicious shponguluma
[04:03] <bubbasaures> SrPx, no problem.
[04:04] <bonesdds> Just added USB 3.0 card to Ubuntu Server 14.04 and now external drive gets mounted as sda1 before root. Does this matter? Can it be corrected?
[04:04] <CtrlAltDelicious> pragmaticenigma: You BuntuNazi this room like you get paid to do it, bro.
[04:04] <CtrlAltDelicious> This your full time job, man?
[04:05] <daniel_Bang> Hi
[04:05] <sergeur> hi   bonsoir
[04:06] <shponguluma> Sorry
[04:07] <shponguluma> Thought it was #android
[04:07] <CtrlAltDelicious> lmao shponguluma LOL
[04:07] <bonesdds> Is there a delay option to keep usb drive from mounting before root?
[04:07] <CtrlAltDelicious> shponguluma: Im in there too, if you want to continue over there we can.
[04:08] <shponguluma> Ill just pm mate
[04:08] <CtrlAltDelicious> ok
[04:09] <bonesdds> Wow, a lot of people joining and quiting, but nobody actually talking about support.
[04:10] <ObrienDave> normal for this channel
[04:10] <RamchandraApte> bonesdds: Often the quits and joins are merely someone's computer starting up or shutting down.
[04:10] <bonesdds> Any help on here or a better channel to ask for help?
[04:10] <ObrienDave> not if you don't ask a support question
[04:11] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | bonesdds
[04:11] <bonesdds> I'll repeat. Installed usb 3.0 in pci-express slot and now my external drive gets mounted earlier than the root drive.
[04:11] <bonesdds> I asked 2 time above.
[04:12] <bonesdds> Would love some help.
[04:12] <ObrienDave> !patience | bonesdds
[04:12] <pragmaticenigma> bonesdds, it's not possible to mount an external drive before root... unless the external drive is bootable
[04:12] <pragmaticenigma> bonesdds, if that is the case, you need to access your system bios or firmware and change the bootdrive order
[04:13] <bonesdds> blkid lists usb drive as sda1, 2nd usb drive as sdb1 and root drive as sdc1.
[04:14] <bonesdds> Good tip about bios. Haven't checked there. Thanks.
[04:14] <bonesdds> New to fstab and all this mounting stuff.
[04:14] <SrPx> When I boot the ubuntu install pen drive it says "the current computer has no detected operating system". It asks to erase my whole HD. I don't want that, I want to dual boot! What do I do? There is a "something else" option... but I'm not sure I understand what it will do.
[04:14] <SrPx> I'm afraid it will erase everything
[04:14] <SrPx> how can I ensure it will not erase all my osx files
[04:14] <bubbasaures> SrPx, You get to the desktop?
[04:15] <SrPx> bubbasaures: ?
[04:15] <bubbasaures> SrPx, ah osx, I'm out, not sure, nevermind. ;)
[04:15] <SrPx> :(
[04:16] <bonesdds> Does the drive name (sda, sdb, sdc...) actually matter. Everything works fine, I just am used to the root drive being sda1?
[04:16] <ObrienDave> root drive should be sda1
[04:17] <slainr> where I can paste an screenshot? my linux enviroment are bugged
[04:17] <bonesdds> It's currently sdc1. Can't figure out how to fix it.
[04:17] <SchrodingersScat> !screenshot | slainr
[04:17] <ObrienDave> bonesdds, check bios, change boot order
[04:18] <bonesdds> Will try thanks.
[04:18] <pragmaticenigma> bonesdds, no, the drive names do not matter
[04:18] <slainr> hey, take a look. I've change my vga cable to an hdmi and my desktop get fuck*d -- http://imgur.com/hPmuFM6
[04:18] <Bashing-om> !uuid
[04:19] <bubbasaures> !language| slainr
[04:19] <SrPx> seems like nobody knows right? :(
[04:19] <niceties> SrPx: does it see all the partitions
[04:19] <bonesdds> Have done blkid, lsusb, lspci...Have all the info other than how to fix it and will now try ObrienDave's suggestion.
[04:20] <SrPx> I guess so, I don't understand though. I recognize my main partition (300+ gb) and the partition I reservd for ubuntu (~100gb) but there are other (150mb~) partitions I don't recognize
[04:20] <niceties> bonesdds: don't matter
[04:20] <slainr> I dont what to solve this display problem
[04:20] <slainr> I dont know*
[04:20] <Bashing-om> bonesdds: If UUIDs are inplace the name 'sda1' in booting does not matter .
[04:21] <niceties> SrPx: is it Windows 7
[04:21] <bonesdds> Using UUID mounting, so it all works fine. Maybe it's just my OCD, but would like it back to the way it was.
[04:22] <pragmaticenigma> bonesdds, there are not drive letter assignments like in windows. It does not matter what the device's handle is in /dev/sd* ... the linux kernel knows where the devices are and maps them as it needs to
[04:22] <niceties> SrPx: and is the machine use bios or efi
[04:23] <bubbasaures> niceties, its a mac
[04:23] <Bashing-om> bonesdds: Good explanation also : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131 <-bodhi.zazen -Understanding fstab .
[04:23] <bonesdds> I realize all that and thank you for trying to help. Call it intellectual challenge that I want to figure out. Should be a way to delay the mounting of the usb externals until the root drive gets mounted. Will read link. Thanks.
[04:23] <niceties> SrPx: Are you using the 64 bit version of ubuntu
[04:24] <SrPx> niceties: it is a macbook pro
[04:24] <SrPx> yes
[04:24] <SrPx> the one you download from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[04:25] <bonesdds> Yeah, read this last night. Didn't see anything that would "fix" what I'm describing.
[04:25] <niceties> SrPx: You need refind program.
[04:26] <bonesdds> old 32 bit hp proliant server, headless, so ssh and command line are only options.
[04:26] <SrPx> I have it....
[04:27] <niceties> SrPx: install it.  Not a restart.
[04:28] <bonesdds> Based on recent comments, it doesn't sound like changing bios settings will change anything.
[04:29] <pragmaticenigma> bonesdds, no, bios doesn't affect the OS once the OS has taken over. I can understand it's a little annoying that what should be your main drive might not be listed as /dev/sda; however it is also why the documentation recommends not using the device path to reference a drive anymore
[04:30] <niceties> SrPx: then start up into osx. Using disk utility shrink the drive enough to install ubuntu but don't partition.
[04:31] <SrPx> niceties: hm
[04:31] <pragmaticenigma> bonesdds, what is likely happening is the UUID generated for the external is alphanumerically listed before the internal drives, which is possibly why the ordering ends up that way
[04:32] <niceties> SrPx: Did you instal refind
[04:32] <bonesdds> I'll right, I'll give up trying to make things the way I want them and accept the way they are. Thanks for the info.
[04:32] <SrPx> yess
[04:33] <bonesdds> Alright. (sp?)
[04:34] <niceties> SrPx: Did you power off not a restart. After starting did refind boot manger show.
[04:34] <SrPx> yes
[04:34] <SrPx> not now, a few moments ago, it is working
[04:35] <bonesdds> It's not the order of UUIDs. Good idea though. The first digit is 0,4,7,9 of the four drives and the a,b,c,d don't follow the order.
[04:35] <niceties> SrPx: don't boot ubuntu USB yet. Boot into osx and use disk utility to shrink the drive. Don't partition it.
[04:35] <bonesdds> Thanks anyway. Good night.
[04:36] <SrPx> I have done that :(
[04:37] <SrPx> niceties: is this what you mean? http://imgur.com/oyDA8aP (I already had the other partition before...)
[04:37] <eatyourguitar> is this arm9 box supported? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA40U1PS3671
[04:38] <eatyourguitar> I read this https://gist.github.com/vvuk/4986933
[04:38] <eatyourguitar> but it might be old by now
[04:38] <niceties> SrPx: so. Hd2 what is that. Is that an empty partition?
[04:38] <eatyourguitar> it shares the mali GPU with the chrome stuff
[04:39] <shponguluma> Can a samsung tab run ubuntu?
[04:41] <niceties> SrPx: do you have 2 hard drives. Or is hd2 a partition.
[04:41] <SrPx> niceties: it is a partition
[04:41] <SrPx> I have one hard drive
 yes, a samsung tablet can run Ubuntu. Search youtube for examples. Also try searching the XDA Developer site.
[04:42] <niceties> SrPx: Did you make it to install ubuntu on
[04:42] <SrPx> yes... before you asked
[04:42] <shponguluma> happyfr0gg yeah ive seen but only trough vnc..
[04:43] <niceties> SrPx: Just delete it
[04:43] <niceties> Leave the empty space unformatted SrPx
[04:44] <SrPx> ... okay
[04:44] <SrPx> now what
 I don't recall which websites but at one time I think I read that there was a way to dual boot Android and Ubuntu on a tablet.
[04:45] <shponguluma> Yeah that im aware of
[04:45] <niceties> Ubuntu can't see Mac formatted partitions during install. SrPx
[04:45] <SrPx> every site asked me to do it :( but ok
[04:46] <SrPx> so now I just reboot and it will see it?
[04:47] <niceties> Yes after removing that partition. Leave the empty space. Reboot with USB install.
[04:47] <niceties> Yes after removing that partition. Leave the empty space. Reboot with USB install.  SrPx
[04:47] <SrPx> okaay
[04:47] <happyfr0gg> Search Google for ways of creating a virtual machine of Ubuntu, Windows, etc inside the Android operating system and then install and run the Android app: aFreeRDP (http://www.freerdp.com/)
[04:47] <SrPx> ill try it then, brb
 aFreeRDP allows you to use Windows 7 and Ubuntu specific apps as if they were installed locally on the Android system.
[04:50] <shponguluma> Cool thx
[04:51] <wad> I've got a bunch of photos that I need to crop. I could use gimp, and do them one at a time.... is there another tool you guys know of for this sort of thing?
[04:51] <wad> Also, a bunch of them need to be rotated.
[04:52] <niceties> wad: all cropped the same size?
[04:52] <wad> Yes
[04:52] <shponguluma> happyfr0gg thx man
[04:54] <niceties> wad: bulk photo processing.
[04:54]  * wad nods
[04:55] <niceties> wad: sudo apt-get install gimp-plugin-registry
[04:56] <wad> ok
[04:56] <niceties> wad: or try sudo apt-get install phatch
[04:57] <wad> Thanks for these suggestions, trying them out.
[04:58] <vbgunz> does anyone know what can cause an ssh terminal to actually lag from letter to letter?
[04:58] <vbgunz> If I just typed that into an SSH terminal to a specific machine, it would still be typing itself out
[04:58] <vbgunz> does anyone know what can cause this?
[04:59] <niceties> Wad imagemagick is command line. Gthumb is a simple one
[04:59] <wad> ok
[05:00] <vbgunz> hmm, seems something I've done may have fixed the problem
[05:00] <vbgunz> damn was it bad
[05:01] <niceties> wad: nautilus-image-converter works inside the folder.
[05:02]  * wad tries that one
[05:03] <imnichol> I'm looking for a way to see if this bug is reported in launchpad: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737840#c4
[05:05] <wad> Hmm. So I've installed that nautilus extension, but I don't know how to use it.
[05:06] <niceties> wad: I think phatch has most features.
[05:07] <wad> I'm just looking for a quick way to rotate and crop a few thousand photos.
[05:07] <wad> By hand, each one needs to be cropped rotated or cropped differently.
[05:08] <niceties> wad: http://coalaweb.com/images/Docs/ubuntu/bulk-resize/Selection_373.png
[05:09] <wad> Hmm. Maybe I need to reboot? I installed that nautilus thing, but I don't get that menu when I right-click.
[05:09] <wad> I'll try gthumb.
[05:10] <niceties> wad: Did you install phatch
[05:11] <wad> Not yet. Trying gthumb now. :)
[05:17] <SuperLag_> I have a W530 with the switching graphics. What can I do to force the Nvidia to kick in, just so I can know the switching works like it's supposed to.
[05:18] <wad> gthumb lets me crop, but it errors out when I try to save the cropped image. >_<
[05:18] <wad> And there is no "sort by similarity".
[05:18]  * wad tries phatch
[05:20] <jamie_> hey i was on earlier and had to go, I was haveing a problem with upstart for some odd reason taking up most of my processor
[05:21] <jamie_> SuperLag_: have you already restated the computer
[05:21] <jamie_> never mind just reread that never mind
[05:22] <wad> Fail. Just going to do them by hand with gimp./
[05:22] <niceties> SuperLag: that's a hybrid gpu
[05:22] <SuperLag> jamie_: it's running the Intel card, right now... I want to make it switch to the Nvidia, but I'm not sure how to do it.
[05:22] <jamie_> SuperLag: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[05:24] <blackyboy> Now i have Ubuntu 13.04 i want to upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS how can i do ? Will it upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS if i use sudo do-release-upgrade or it will upgrade to 14.10 ?
[05:25] <niceties> wad: http://photobatch.wikidot.com/install
[05:26] <niceties> wad: http://photobatch.stani.be/download/index.html
[05:27] <niceties> Use that wad . It might be newer than what's on ubuntu server
[05:27] <jamie_> SuperLag: did that answer you question
[05:27] <bubbasaures> blackyboy, You. have to use a eol upgrade and  go up one by one to 14.04
[05:27] <bubbasaures> !eol
[05:28] <blackyboy> ok
[05:29] <bubbasaures> blackyboy, I would just be backed up is all, if you go the upgrade route.
[05:29] <jamie_> oh, and can someone help me with this.... i almost forgot... for some odd reason my computer at times will suddenly start to put all the cpu power into upstart and makes my machine start to freeze
[05:30] <blackyboy> bubbasaures: any document for this process ?
[05:30] <bubbasaures> blackyboy, Oh yeah, i's in that bot message above on eol
[05:30] <bubbasaures> it's*
[05:30] <blackyboy> Okay
[05:31] <bubbasaures> jamie_, Your not swapping when this happens?
[05:32] <jamie_> well for the most part is happening when using gimp
[05:32] <jamie_> I have the syslog in the general time frame http://paste.ubuntu.com/9759351/
[05:34] <bubbasaures> jamie_,  what is your cpu and memory?
[05:34] <jamie_> bubbasaures:  do you mean the type and amount of ram
[05:34] <niceties> jamie_: do you have any program or background process running when CPU spikes
[05:34] <bubbasaures> jamie_, Yeah.
[05:34] <jamie_> bubbasaures: I5 quad core and 4gb
[05:35] <bubbasaures> jamie_, Thanks, ubuntu in it's stock swap state will start swapping a little more than using half of that 4 gigs, you can change this with swappiness.
[05:36] <jamie_> bubbasaures: what is the problem occuring
[05:36] <jamie_> and I tend to uber-multi task
[05:36] <jamie_> never ran into this problem before
[05:37] <bubbasaures> jamie_, Try setting the swappiness lower so it takes longer to kick in, I think your probably just overusing it.
[05:37] <niceties> jamie_: disable swap if you have enough memory.
[05:37] <jamie_> how much would be concidder enough
[05:38] <niceties> jamie_: 4-8 gb
[05:38] <bubbasaures> jamie_, Do you know what I'm talking about?
[05:38] <jamie_> bubbasaures: yes
[05:38] <jamie_> it currently says i am using 10 mb of swap out of 3949 mb
[05:39] <bubbasaures> jamie_, This is a guess we or you have to like do the research dude. ; )
[05:39] <niceties> Open system monitor jamie_ . See how much swap space is used.
[05:39] <jamie_> I just said that
[05:39] <bubbasaures> jamie_, So you have changed the swap
[05:39] <jamie_> I have htop running
[05:40] <jamie_> nope, its has been at 10 since i started htop
[05:41] <niceties> jamie_: also system monitor you can sort processes to see if any are spiking the CPU. It may not be the swap.
[05:41] <jamie_> it is upstart, using about 24-40 percent
[05:42] <bubbasaures> jamie_, run this command and pastebin all of it cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[05:42] <bubbasaures> actually you can just post it
[05:42] <jamie_> 60
[05:43] <niceties> jamie_: when did this start happening. Did you reboot.
[05:43] <bubbasaures> jamie_, That is your swappiness, not sure what the "10" you mention is, change the swapiness to say 10 itself.
[05:43] <jamie_> the 10 was 10 mb of the swap being used
[05:44] <bubbasaures> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq read this on changing the swappiness
[05:44] <bubbasaures> jamie_, I never asked you how much swap used, on a soinning HD swapping will make it freeze
[05:44] <bubbasaures> spinning*
[05:45] <jamie_> miss read sorry
[05:46] <bubbasaures> jamie_, I missread as well, I was not sure we were even communicating. ;)
[05:47] <niceties> jamie_: sometimes swap partition fails to get mounted at boot
[05:47] <jamie_> i dont know..... I use linux on a daily basis and have been testing since 9.... and have never ran into this problem.... and have been running 14.10 for several months now... and this just started today
[05:47] <bubbasaures> jamie_, I use a conky to watch this stuff myself, there are 1000's out there people have coded, a thread on the ubuntu forums of them.
[05:47] <jamie_> and i have restarted twice
[05:48] <jamie_> nice.... I kinda almost fell behind on ubuntu due to fxos
[05:48] <bubbasaures> jamie_, If your swapping on a spinning HD you will see a slow down, or freeze or even what seems to be a crash.,
[05:48] <niceties> jamie_: Did you open system monitor and see if swap space is being used.
[05:49] <jamie_> yes there is 10mb of 3900 mb being used
[05:49] <bubbasaures> SSD here not even noticeable when swapping
[05:50] <niceties> jamie_: then it's not swap causing issue.
[05:50] <akurilin> Hey guys, am I correctly understanding that a default 14.04 server does not run ntpdate by default?
[05:50] <akurilin> on a regular basis
[05:50] <jamie_> Yea... i really need to get a new hd... my good one broke about a year ago.... and i just shoved what I had in it... 75gb hd...... and i updated the rest of the computer and forgot the hd
[05:50] <bubbasaures> jamie_, If you change the swappiness you would not be swapping with the exact same use is all. We have gotten stuck however on a simple test and a guess really, but probably the issue.
[05:51] <jamie_> I dont know for sure... i can run test for yall to help diagnose..... i just really need this to work..... I work on my computer and go to school on my computer
[05:52] <niceties> jamie_: something else is firing upstart to crush your CPU
[05:52] <jamie_> is there something yall know of i can run to further diagnose.......
[05:53] <jamie_> I can work all day from errors.... Im not sure if its not telling me what is going on
[05:57] <bubbasaures> jamie_, You could just turn the swap off and see if you clear up, before changing anything, the memory is about 60% use is all before swapping.
[05:58] <jamie_> you want me to set the swappieness to 0
[05:59] <bubbasaures> jamie_, That does not shut off swap, that link tells you this I believe, from the command line or gparted to turn it off.
[06:00] <jamie_> okay one sec
[06:01] <bubbasaures> sudo swapoff -a
[06:01] <jamie_> is that a temp change
[06:01] <dan_> hi
[06:01] <bubbasaures> jamie_, Yeah just turns it off, you can turn it back on
[06:01] <Guest78436> is there any way to install 32bit version of stdbuf on 64 bit ubuntu?
[06:02] <jamie_> okay
[06:02] <Guest78436> trying to install coreutils:i386 will uninstall the regular coreutils
[06:02] <Guest78436> which seems bad
[06:03] <bubbasaures> jamie_, back on is  sudo swapon -a
[06:05] <dan____> or alternately, get the included stdbuf to work on 32 bit programs
[06:06] <jamie_> but also on the other part, will it disable the swap for hibernation
[06:06] <bubbasaures> jamie_, when of yes. this is just a test.
[06:06] <bubbasaures> off*
[06:06] <bubbasaures> back on and your good to hibernate
[06:07] <jamie_> okay im gonna do what i was doing when it kept freezing
[06:07] <bubbasaures> jamie_, What we are doing is isolating if the swapping is the issue.
[06:07] <jamie_> okay give me a few minutes
[06:07] <bubbasaures> jamie_, No problem take your time I will be here. ;)
[06:08] <rjsalts> with nfsv4 the nolock and local_lock parameters to mount are meaningless, correct?
[06:09] <jzp113> hi vsftpd stop/waiting what happen?
[06:09] <bubbasaures> funny thing multi tasking has been disproved statistically as faster or even equal to not doing it
[06:09] <bubbasaures> no faster*
[06:10] <Nathan2055> What happened to Wubi?
[06:10] <bubbasaures> Nathan2055, got past being supported is all.
[06:11] <Nathan2055> Is there a way to do a simple dual-boot install like that?
[06:11] <bubbasaures> Nathan2055, A vm, or real dualboot, wubi was a file in windows.
[06:12] <bubbasaures> Nathan2055, even the developer of wubi said only use it for test in lieu of a dualboot.
[06:12]  * Nathan2055 shrugs
[06:12] <Nathan2055> Okay.
[06:12]  * bubbasaures ignores
[06:18] <strahm> why would someone use ubuntu over debian?
[06:19] <bubbasaures> strahm, Might get answers in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:19] <strahm> thanks.
[06:19] <bubbasaures> no prob
[06:20] <ICantCook> Hey guys, I screwed up my CA bundle in ubuntu 14.04
[06:20] <ICantCook> how can I reinstall the CA certificates?
[06:20] <ICantCook> tried this
[06:20] <ICantCook>  update-ca-certificates
[06:21] <ICantCook> Updating certificates in /etc/ssl/certs... 0 added, 0 removed; done.
[06:21] <jzp113> hi vsftpd stop/waiting what happen?
[06:33] <wachpwnski> I have a KVM that I didn't install any drivers that I know about on windows, but when I tap numlock twice on the keyboard it switches inputs, but on linux it does nothing. Is there some way I can send the key signal to the kvm on linux?
[06:34] <jamie_> bubbasaures: it all seems to be running fine now.... no spikes other than the normal
[06:34] <kernix> hey all
[06:35] <bubbasaures> hi kernix
[06:35] <kernix> bubbasaures: how are u ?
[06:35] <bubbasaures> good, good
[06:36] <bubbasaures> chillin watching charlie rose and playing with the cat
[06:37] <jamie_> bubbasaures: is there a way to set it to still be enable for hibernation
[06:37] <bubbasaures> jamie_, Cool, Turn the swap on and it will hibernate, you should just change the swappiness to 10 per the link\.
[06:38] <bubbasaures> sudo swapon -a
[06:38] <bubbasaures> will tuen it back on
[06:38] <jamie_> okay what exactly does that nuber mean.... it takes haveing only 10 percent of your ram left before using swap
[06:38] <MACscr> can i disable gpg checks fo a single repo like i can with yum repos?
[06:39] <bubbasaures> jamie_, Yeah to some extent yes a percentile, you have got it!!!
[06:39] <MACscr> i dont want to do it per check, i want to do it for all checks on that particular repo. its my private one
[06:39] <jamie_> okay... i need to do that through the actual doc using gedit
[06:40] <bubbasaures> jamie_, Yeah easiest I think in a edit gui and do the restart of that proc
[06:41] <jamie_> okay... sorry for the odd typing... i dont exacly have a q-markj or an apostrophie... i need a new keyboard for my laptop
[06:41] <andy__> Hi.
[06:41] <bubbasaures> jamie_, Heh, you are fine, one you set that new swap amount close it a restart with  sudo sysctl -p
[06:42] <jamie_> okay one sec
[06:42] <andy__> I pressed alt-w in xubuntu and it says that there is no default browser.
[06:43] <andy__> Google Chrome was my default.  I guess I could just reinstall it?
[06:43] <bubbasaures> andy__, Settings/Settings Manager/Preffered Applications
[06:43] <SrPx> didn't work quite well after all :(
[06:44] <SrPx> gpu on all the time so my fan was screaming thunders and the temperature increased to the point of burning my skin
[06:50] <andy__> Hi.
[06:51] <andy__> Hello again.
[06:51] <bubbasaures> andy__, Fixed?
[06:51] <kernix> hi andy__
[06:51] <andy__> I got it to work.
[06:51] <bubbasaures> ;) great
[06:51] <andy__> It says, "Your profile could not be opened correctly.
[06:51] <andy__> Some features may be unavailable.  Please check that the profile exists and you have permission to read and write its contents."
[06:52] <andy__> I guess it is not fixed yet.
[06:52] <bubbasaures> andy__, again the key prompts
[06:52] <bubbasaures> ?
[06:55] <andy__> bubbasaures, I think you are referring to alt-W?  That works now.
[06:55] <bubbasaures> andy__, Yeah context is the key here.
[06:55] <andy__> I had to logout, and then log back in, and it worked.
[07:00] <jamie_> bubbasaures: okay it returned vm.swappiness=10
[07:01] <bubbasaures> jamie_, Great I think you set now.
[07:01] <bubbasaures> you're
[07:02] <jamie_> bubbasaures: thanks... now i need to head back to moznet...
[07:02] <blu3ski3s> hey guys, im sick of being on windows and having to cywin everything, but i also use windows app's alot. anyone running ubuntu + windows (vm)?
[07:02] <bubbasaures> jamie_, no prob.
[07:02] <jamie_> actually i think i will actually stick around here for a little and see if there is anything i can help with
[07:02] <bubbasaures> ;)
[07:03] <bubbasaures> blu3ski3s, The actual issue is more appropriate here. ;)
[07:04] <blu3ski3s> ok no problem, just wanted to discuss best solution, issues around having linux+windows (vm). no real issues just wanted people's experience/thoughts
[07:06] <jamie_> bubbasaures: odd question, what do you think of fxos
[07:07] <bubbasaures> jamie_, Not sure what it is.
[07:07] <jamie_> fire fox os
[07:07] <bubbasaures> jamie_, Have not checked it out.
[07:08] <jamie_> oh..... you should look into it
[07:08] <jamie_> its a phone not a computer os
[07:08] <bubbasaures> probably will I run just about everything once
[07:08] <bubbasaures> thought it was a phone yeah
[07:08] <jamie_> hey do you run the firefox browser
[07:08] <bubbasaures> yes
[07:09] <jamie_> well not too sure about the standard, but do you know how to use the addons
[07:10] <bubbasaures> jamie_, You would just add them from the addons tab or go to the website.
[07:10] <bubbasaures> both require a search in general.
[07:10] <jamie_> okay then, i can tell you how to set up the simulator if you want... its built into the browser not your computer
[07:11] <andy__> blu3ski3s, Have you tried installing windows in a vm yet?  It sounds interesting.
[07:11] <jamie_> andy__ its rather simple what do you want to know
[07:11] <bubbasaures> I'm fine thanks
[07:12] <jamie_> okay, just an offer, sorry auto thing with fxos
[07:12] <Ben64> jamie_: not really on topic here in #ubuntu
[07:13] <bubbasaures> jamie_, I'm just an armchair user, my computer is a pretty basic setup, I just run many OS is all.
[07:13] <jamie_> Ben64: okay.... sorry
[07:13] <coolstar> what's the minimum amount of RAM required to run Ubuntu Minimal?
[07:13] <coolstar> just need it to be able to run a DNS server and hostapd really
[07:14] <coolstar> and an OpenSSH server
[07:14] <coolstar> that's all really, no need for a GUI
[07:14] <jamie_> bubbasaures: its kinda an auto thing.... sorry, I do work for them
[07:14] <Ben64> coolmadmax: 192MB is listed as the recommended system requirements for server version
[07:14] <bubbasaures> ;) nice to have a job, anyway I'm gonna follow Ben64s' prompt
[07:15] <jamie_> bubbasaures: thats fine sorry
[07:15] <jamie_> sorry for the disturbance people i guess
[07:15] <andy__> jamie_, I was just wandering whether blu3ski3s had tried it yet.
[07:15] <coolstar> Ben64: hmm, I wonder how low I can push that RAM amount
[07:15] <jamie_> andy__: okay, sorry to intrude
[07:15] <Ben64> coolstar: what are you trying to run it on?
[07:16] <coolstar> Ben64: I'm trying to set up a WiFi network from my computer
[07:16] <coolstar> Ben64: but the Realtek Drivers are outdated and need 32 bit Ubuntu 13.04
[07:16] <coolstar> and my computer has 64 Bit Ubuntu 14.04 and Linux Kernel 3.18 so it's too new :/
[07:16] <coolmadmax> Ben64, you talking to coolstar or to me?
[07:16] <Ben64> coolmadmax: oh sorry, tabbed you by mistake
[07:16] <coolstar> and I can't downgrade the kernel either because of the Haswell graphics
[07:17] <ghost_> hey guys, im wondering if my pc can run the newer ubuntu distro, how would i be able to know for sure?
[07:17] <jamie_> well on that note im gonna drop out of here and go back to moznet, se yall later
[07:17] <Ben64> coolstar: well 13.04 is definitely not supported here
[07:18] <coolstar> Ben64: which is why I'm putting it in a VM and not on my actual machine :P
[07:18] <coolstar> stupid Realtek drivers :(
[07:18] <bubbasaures> ghost_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements  does not hurt to test, sveral lighter desktops.
[07:18] <Ben64> coolstar: doesn't make any sense
[07:18] <sebsebseb> hi
[07:18] <coolstar> Ben64: ideally I'd run hostapd and the wifi network natively on Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit
[07:19] <jamie_> coolstar: try #ubuntu-offtopic\
[07:19] <coolstar> don't know how well it'd play nicely with my Edimax EW-7811Un though
[07:19] <jamie_> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:19] <ghost_> ubbasaures: so far running lubuntu pretty snappy on 14.10
[07:20] <andy__> blu3ski3s, Have you tried the app store that is in Linux?
[07:21] <jamie_> well on a older computer set to originally run run vista with a duo core and had to run lubuntu 12.04
[07:22] <bubbasaures> ghost_, you can just install other desktops if you want
[07:26] <ghost_> bubbasaures: ill try it out see what result i get (:
[07:26] <bubbasaures> that's the spirit
[07:26] <andy__> thanks
[07:28] <sulabh_> hi
[07:29] <rzeka> Hola. I am about to use one of my servers for backup. I was wondering, which way people prefer -> to pull backup from production machine into backup or to push from production to backup?
[07:30] <ra0specimen> I still have Windowsbobulat0rz on my PC
[07:30] <ra0specimen> Can someone guide me quickly to RHEL ISO newer than 6!
[07:31] <bubbasaures> !topic | ra0specimen
[07:31] <cfhowlett> ra0specimen, eh?  check your channel = RH this ain't
[07:32] <ra0specimen> Slave for Gates :)
[07:32]  * ra0specimen tap tap
[07:32] <cfhowlett> ra0specimen, move on please.
[07:34] <ra0specimen> This is about as adept as I can get mister!https://www.dropbox.com/s/vsm0eg5mr42ick4/520171.png
[07:34] <andy__> bubbasaures, I mean, thanks for your help.  I think google chrome is back to normal.
[07:34] <cfhowlett> ra0specimen, this is ubuntu support.  stay on topic or seek a more suitable channel.
[07:35] <cfhowlett>  HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 3.13.0-44-lowlatency x86_64 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 2 x Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU       T4300  @ 2.10GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.20GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.8GB, 84.4% free ** Disk: Total: 436.0GB, 31.0% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel ** Ethernet: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8040 PCI-E Fast Ethernet
[07:35] <cfhowlett> Controller ** Uptime: 9m 33s **
[07:36] <Nickwiz> Have compiled vim from source and want to install it. Guess it is a good idea to first remove the installed vim. However when I try to uninstall vim-tiny it also want's to remove ubuntu-minimal ? Is that OK?
[07:37] <ra0specimen> Injects 2 Ubuntu's. I will grant you funny money for more!
[07:37] <ra0specimen> DELL
[07:38] <Nickwiz> I run Ubuntu 14.10 with Unity/GNOME.
[07:40] <ghost_> i should be able to run 14.10 no isssue
[07:46] <niytro> hello all =)
[07:47] <niytro> im currently running live lubuntu disc because the encrypted install failed on a known bug saying unsafe swap detected, there is a workaround with the swapoff command but I would like to have everything encrypted so could someone help me with setting up partitions
[07:48] <cfhowlett> niytro, workaround; switch off /swap, set up the encrypt, then /swapon
[07:49] <niytro> cfhowlett, do i setup something manually?
[07:49] <niytro> cfhowlett, im still n00b with linux sorry
[07:50] <cfhowlett> niytro, here's what I'd do based on your description; set up your partitions including an empty space for the swap, i.e. DO NOT SET THE SWAP during install.  get things where you want/encrypted.  THEN do a post-installation swap
[07:50] <cfhowlett> !swap | niytro
[07:52] <niytro> cfhowlett, sry I disconnected for a sec, I read that its better to encrypt the swap as well so the key cant be taken from the data
[07:53] <cfhowlett> !swap | niytro
[07:53] <cfhowlett> niytro, here's what I'd do based on your description; set up your partitions including an empty space for the swap, i.e. DO NOT SET THE SWAP during install.  get things where you want/encrypted.  THEN do a post-installation swap
[07:54] <niytro> cfhowlett, i dont know how to do that and im barely understanding
[07:54] <niytro> cfhowlett, so i swapoff then run encrypted installation, then do something with it post install?
[07:54] <cfhowlett> niytro, install as normal.  DO NOT set a swap partition.  DO set some empty space aside for swap
[07:58] <BalTun> hello, men. I need some help. Problem is that sometimes in XFCE changing language function is getting down - doesn't work and begins to work only after restarting whole system. How I can restart deamon which do this function without restarting?
[07:59] <niytro> cfhowlett, i really dont know what im doing here so is there maybe a link or resource with a step by step?
[07:59] <cfhowlett> niytro, boot ubuntu USB.  "Install ubuntu"  "something else"  [for manual options]
[08:00] <niytro> cfhowlett, okay well im in the live disc now
[08:00] <cfhowlett> niytro, perfect. :)
[08:01] <niytro> cfhowlett, i have to reinstall unfortunately, i ran chkrootkit about half an hour ago and it said /usr/init was infected with a "suckit" rootkit... =(
[08:01] <niytro> cfhowlett, it was recommended to me to install encrypted so thats why im doing this
[08:01] <cfhowlett> niytro, understood.
[08:02] <niytro> cfhowlett, or rather why its important i figure it out
[08:02] <niytro> cfhowlett, im running the install
[08:02] <cfhowlett> niytro, 14.04??
[08:02] <niytro> cfhowlett, yea but the point release
[08:02] <niytro> cfhowlett, lubuntu 14.04.1
[08:02] <cfhowlett> niytro, perfect!
[08:03] <niytro> cfhowlett, why perfect?
[08:03] <bubbasaures> niytro, most likely a false positive.
[08:03] <cfhowlett> niytro, I can mirror the install on my side via virtualbox
[08:04] <niytro> cfhowlett, okay great
[08:04] <DrManhattan> I have upgrade my samba to version 4.1.6 but Im still getting the talloc memory leak error. Is there any way I can keep samba password sync to user accounts and get rid of this memory error?
[08:05] <DrManhattan> no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[08:05] <OerHeks> DrManhattan, on Utopic, samba current is 4.1.11
[08:05] <OerHeks> Maybe worth to upgrade
[08:05] <bubbasaures> niytro, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server-bugs/2014-April/111700.html
[08:05] <DrManhattan> I am on 14.04
[08:06] <niytro> bubbasaures, upon suckit rootkit search i see someone saying false positive cause of chkrootkit problem
[08:06] <niytro> cfhowlett, okay im in the partition manager thing
[08:06] <niytro> bubbasaures, either way i want to encrypt my stuff anyway
[08:06] <cfhowlett> niytro, you should have partitions already, right?
[08:06] <bubbasaures> niytro, Yeah and encryption only stops the HD accessed once up your as open a not encrypted is all.
[08:07] <bubbasaures> your up
[08:07] <bubbasaures> carry on you have great help niytro
[08:08] <brucelee> if netsat -l shows this: tcp6       0      0 [::]:9200               [::]:*                  LISTEN
[08:08] <brucelee> but not *:9200
[08:08] <niytro> bubbasaures, cfhowlett okay but listen before we go any farther, to back track just a bit more for the reason i did the rootkit test... i was in firefox after just switching from chrome and a new tab appeared out of nowhere and at the bottom it said waiting for centrexity.com
[08:08] <brucelee> am i supposed to be able to connect to it via <IP_ADDRESS>:9200
[08:09] <cfhowlett> niytro, irrelevant.  you're reinstalling.  I can help with that.
[08:09] <Ben64> brucelee: connect to what? you gotta give some context
[08:09] <cfhowlett> niytro, note: I'm no rootkit expert and have never (?) had one
[08:09] <niytro> cfhowlett, okay i have sda1 and sda5
[08:09] <cfhowlett> niytro, paste a picture.
[08:10] <niytro> cfhowlett, eh trying
[08:10] <omer> rzeka: I would push since you might have to take the production down for a few seconds to take sql backups and etc.
[08:10] <niytro> cfhowlett, i took a ss but how do i post
[08:10] <cfhowlett> niytro, imgur
[08:10] <cfhowlett> !paste | niytro
[08:11] <brucelee> Ben64: what i mean is if netstat doesnt show that its listening on *:<port> but its listening on :::<port> meaning its listening on an ipv6 address (correct me if im wrong here), then i shouldn't be able to connect to <IP_ADDRESS> <port> right? because thats an ipv4 address right?
[08:11] <DrManhattan> OerHeks, is there any way to use the 14.10 sanba package on 14.04?
[08:11] <brucelee> Ben64: let me know if thats still uncelar
[08:11] <Ben64> brucelee: possibly
[08:11] <Ben64> DrManhattan: no
[08:11] <DrManhattan> damnit - SAMBA
[08:12] <DrManhattan> Ben64, so basically the "stable, long term support" release has a known bug with no fix and there's no ETA for a fix and no way to fix it ourselves?
[08:12] <OerHeks> DrManhattan, nope, that is why i suggested to upgrade
[08:12] <Ben64> DrManhattan: i run samba here on 14.04 with zero problems
[08:13] <DrManhattan> Ben64, sorry, but this is a known bug, it's reported all over the place. I get it on a fresh install and apt-get upgrade does not help
[08:13] <niytro> cfhowlett, working, sorry livedisc is slow
[08:14] <cfhowlett> niytro, no worries
[08:14] <rzeka> And is it possible now to check, on receiving machine, if rsync is done?
[08:14] <Ben64> DrManhattan: dunno man, i have no problems, computer is on 24/7, samba is connected 24/7
[08:14] <DrManhattan> Ben64, well, all those reports must be false then
[08:14] <Ben64> DrManhattan: i'm just telling you what's happening here
[08:14] <niytro> cfhowlett, http://imgur.com/E809YRZ
[08:14] <DrManhattan> I punch that error into google and get About 3,420 results (0.38 seconds
[08:15] <DrManhattan> so good for you but it's a known bug and no one seems to be addressing it
[08:15] <Ben64> DrManhattan: you can punch almost anything into google and get thousands of results...
[08:15] <cfhowlett> niytro, is this an HDD?  do you have any other storage devices?
[08:15] <cfhowlett> niytro, and is this a server?
[08:15] <niytro> cfhowlett, its older hardware thats why im on lxde
[08:15] <niytro> cfhowlett, now its a laptop for personal use
[08:16] <niytro> cfhowlett, no*
[08:16] <Ben64> DrManhattan: wheres the bug listed
[08:16] <DrManhattan> Anyone else? Memory leak in Samba? Any way to upgrade?
[08:16] <cfhowlett> niytro, 3 questions, 3 answers: ...
[08:16] <DrManhattan> Ben64, https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEEQFjAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.launchpad.net%2Fbugs%2F1257186&ei=Nce4VL7mO4azoQTAqILoAw&usg=AFQjCNEON7O_l3XTWqBOURrFJF9lbb9b8w&sig2=vW7T21W2XI2wL3_Zmst4kg&bvm=bv.83829542,d.cGU
[08:16] <niytro> cfhowlett, no, no, no
[08:17]  * cfhowlett loves it when he gets clear info
[08:17] <niytro> lol
[08:17] <cfhowlett> niytro, OK well ... wait 1
[08:17] <niytro> cfhowlett, i appreciate your help
[08:18] <cfhowlett> niytro, is there any data you need to save in those partitions?
[08:18] <Ben64> DrManhattan: a fix is listed there under #14
[08:18] <niytro> cfhowlett, no
[08:18] <cfhowlett> niytro, brilliant.  delete /sda 1 and sda 5
[08:19] <niytro> cfhowlett, done
[08:19] <DrManhattan> Ben64, that isn't a fix. It disables password sync with user accounts
[08:19] <Ben64> DrManhattan: yep, stops the problem
[08:19] <DrManhattan> Ben64, not a fix, sorry.
[08:19] <cfhowlett> niytro, wait 1 ... screenshot coming
[08:19] <Ben64> fixes the problem, yet isn't a fix?
[08:20] <DrManhattan> Ben64, please stop trolling.
[08:20] <Ben64> DrManhattan: have a nice day, you may want to work on your attitude
[08:20] <DrManhattan> Ben64, you were no help at all. You may want to work on yours.
[08:20] <rohankanojia420> Hello to all...
[08:21] <DrManhattan> Anyone else? Memory leak issue in samba? Any kind of ETA for a fix?
[08:21] <DrManhattan> maybe I should ask in devs
[08:22] <rohankanojia420> Can somebody tell me difference between Gtk+ and Qt???
[08:22] <OerHeks> DrManhattan, they would suggest to upgrade, i presume
[08:22] <DrManhattan> doubtful. This is a long term support release, supposedly.
[08:23]  * bubbasaures can't stop rolf
[08:23] <Ben64> DrManhattan: if you actually read the bug page you linked to, there are even more solutions and an answer to your other questions
[08:24] <cfhowlett> niytro, http://oi58.tinypic.com/4hfteg.jpg
[08:24] <DrManhattan> Ben64, Thanks but they don't work AND they break things. Perhaps if you read the page you keep insisting is full of fixes...
[08:24] <Ben64> DrManhattan: i seriously doubt you've read it
[08:24] <DrManhattan> Ben64, anyhow, what happened to my "have a good day", etc. Thanks but no thanks to you sie.
[08:24] <DrManhattan> dire
[08:24] <DrManhattan> sir
[08:25] <DrManhattan> Ben64, you are trolling. Please stop.
[08:25] <cfhowlett> niytro, /dev/sda1    is mount (OS filesystem)/ /dev/sda5 is the free, unformatted space at present for the futuure /swap, /dev/sda6 is the home.  resize partitions for your system
[08:25] <Ben64> DrManhattan: not trolling, not appreciating your attitude at all
[08:25] <DrManhattan> Ben64, you are now ignored.
[08:25]  * cfhowlett thinks "Can't we all get along?"
[08:26] <Ben64> he wants to be hand held to the solution, and i'm not about that
[08:26] <cfhowlett> niytro, awake???
[08:26] <niytro> cfhowlett, im trying to figure size for the partitions
[08:26] <cfhowlett> niytro, for OS: 8, swap = RAM x 2, /home = whatever's left
[08:28] <cfhowlett> niytro, by comparison: i've got xubuntu ... slightly heavier than lubuntu.  ON top of that, I've got ubuntustudio AND all the ubnuntustudio suggested alternatives.  Full load: 11 gbs.
[08:32] <DrManhattan> I have upgrade my samba to version 4.1.6 but Im still getting the talloc memory leak error. Is there any way I can keep samba password sync to user accounts and get rid of this memory error?
[08:32] <DrManhattan> no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[08:32] <niytro> cfhowlett, almost done sry
[08:32] <cfhowlett> niytro, standing by ...
[08:33] <niytro> cfhowlett, http://imgur.com/mnKvnvF
[08:34] <TheVerge> Hey
[08:34] <cfhowlett> niytro, by jove, I've think you've got it!
[08:34] <TheVerge> I have Ubuntu Desktop 14.04 installed and have an AMD 5450 GPU installed
[08:34] <TheVerge> I changed to the propriety driver and now the system wont boot :(
[08:34] <Ben64> TheVerge: you might have to use the open source driver with a gpu that old
[08:35] <TheVerge> Hey Ben64
[08:35] <DrManhattan> TheVerge, that happened to me when I did a dist-upgrade on my kernel
[08:35] <TheVerge> how did you fix it DrManhattan
[08:36] <DrManhattan> TheVerge, I used the previous kernel
[08:36] <Ben64> Not really relevant to the issue here though
[08:36] <niytro> cfhowlett, im f&$%#*@ proud of myself
[08:37] <DrManhattan> I may have reinstalled to make sure I didn't have any random packages on there, but when I booted after the dist-upgrade, it was all bad. I couldn't get anything functional out of my 7870
[08:37] <niytro> cfhowlett, ive really never done that though
[08:37] <cfhowlett> niytro, as well you should be.
[08:37] <niytro> cfhowlett, haha okay well i shall proceed...
[08:37] <TheVerge> Ben64, Is there some magic button I can hold while it boots to enter a recovery mode type screen
[08:37] <DrManhattan> I now use that system as my HTPC, works like a champ
[08:37] <Ben64> TheVerge: spam the shift key when its booting to get the grub menu to pop up, then you can choose recovery
[08:38] <DrManhattan> TheVerge, have you tried selecting one of the previous kernels from the grub boot menu?
[08:39] <niytro> cfhowlett, im assuming i when i set swap after installation it can be encrypted?
[08:39] <cfhowlett> niytro, as I understand it, yet
[08:39] <cfhowlett> *yes*&
[08:39] <niytro> okay
[08:39] <niytro> cfhowlett, moving forward then
[08:40] <DrManhattan> I have upgraded my samba to version 4.1.6 but Im still getting the talloc memory leak error. Is there any way I can keep samba password sync to user accounts and get rid of this memory error? no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[08:40] <TheVerge> Shift key isn't working on reboot. It POST's etc, ask if i want to enter setup or PXE boot and then I just get a flashing underscore
[08:40] <Ben64> TheVerge: there is a pretty narrow window in which that works
[08:41] <TheVerge> I was pressing it from the very start of the boot
[08:41] <TheVerge> reminded me of track and field lol
[08:41] <DrManhattan> lol
[08:41] <Ben64> i'm just saying, mash it harder! :D and use the left one
[08:41] <DrManhattan> I used to love the javelin throw
[08:42] <DrManhattan> there was another one, same theme but different games, and I got very good at the high dive
[08:42] <niytro> cfhowlett, im going to duckduckgo encrypting swap, maybe i can read the right article so you dont have to hand-hold
[08:42] <cfhowlett> !swap | niytro,
[08:43] <cfhowlett> niytro, actually, pretty sure that if you add partitions under an encrypted systems, new partitions inherit the encrypted protection
[08:43] <niytro> cfhowlett, oh okay.. makes sense
[08:44] <cfhowlett> niytro, anywayz, seems like you've got momentum.  best of luck to you.
[08:45] <niytro> cfhowlett, cant thank you enough
[08:45] <TheVerge> Shift aint working  :(
[08:45] <Ben64> niytro: type this by itself in here then..... no quotes...  "!cookie | cfhowlett"
[08:45] <cfhowlett> niytro, no need.  pay it forward.  :)
[08:45] <niytro> Ben64, lol thats a sarcastic cookie
[08:46] <Ben64> no its real!
[08:46] <niytro> cfhowlett, heard
[08:46] <cfhowlett> niytro, I heard.
[08:47] <niytro> cfhowlett, you know im entering user information and there is only the option to encrypt home folder. Im assuming this isnt the same as encrypting the whole installation?
[08:48] <francesco_> hi
[08:48] <DrManhattan> I have upgraded my samba to version 4.1.6 but Im still getting the talloc memory leak error. Is there any way I can keep samba password sync to user accounts and get rid of this memory error? no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[08:48] <francesco_> !list
[08:48] <EriC^^> hi francesco_
[08:48] <cfhowlett> niytro, nope.  /home only.  you can encrypt the whole thing.  might be worth considering installation >>> encryption >>> /swap        workflow
[08:49] <TheVerge> Am I goosed then Ben64?
[08:49] <niytro> cfhowlett, eh.. yea I wanted to encrypt dee whole ting. duckduckgo time?
[08:49] <Ben64> TheVerge: can you do CTRL+ALT+F1 after ubuntu boots
[08:50] <cfhowlett> !ecrpytfs | niytro,
[08:50] <cfhowlett> niytro, man ecryptfs will inform you
[08:51] <EriC^^> niytro: choose lvm + encryption
[08:51] <EriC^^> if you're at the user creation, you'll have to reinstall
[08:51] <TheVerge> No Ben64
[08:52] <niytro> EriC^^, unfortunately lubuntu 14.04.1 has a bug where encrypted install fails
[08:52] <niytro> EriC^^, 14.10 too
[08:52] <DrManhattan> I have upgraded my samba to version 4.1.6 but Im still getting the talloc memory leak error. Is there any way I can keep samba password sync to user accounts and get rid of this memory error? no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[08:54] <TheVerge> Ben64, am I going to have to do a full reinstall?
[08:56] <Ben64> TheVerge: you just need to hit shift at the right time
[08:56] <DrManhattan> TheVerge, I did, eventually
[08:56] <Ben64> TheVerge: or if you have an install cd, you can edit the file and make the menu actually appear for a set number of seconds
[08:57] <TheVerge> I keep trying Ben64 and no joy :-(
[08:57] <TheVerge> Now this is more like it Ben64
[08:57] <TheVerge> I like this idea
[08:57] <TheVerge> Let me get the DVD
[08:57] <DrManhattan> TheVerge, good luck.
[08:58] <dammit123> hi, how do i find all available vesions of a package? `apt-show-versions -a ...` only shows the current version
[09:00] <OerHeks> DrManhattan, as far as i understand, the fix with 4.1.11 will be applied in 14.04.2
[09:00] <Ben64> OerHeks: i tried, he got mad and ignored me, good luck
[09:00] <DrManhattan> when is the ETA for 14.04.2?
[09:00] <OerHeks> april '15
[09:01] <TheVerge> WooHoo no idea why but this time on restart it's booted as normal Ben64
[09:01] <DrManhattan> Jesus H christ - so production systems just suffer from a memory leak until April
[09:01] <DJones> DrManhattan: 5th February according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[09:01] <DrManhattan> TheVerge, congrats.
[09:01] <DrManhattan> DJones, thank you - I can definitely wait 2 weeks.
[09:02] <DrManhattan> 2.5, whatever
[09:02] <OerHeks> oh, my bad, i was thinking of the 15.04 release
[09:02] <DrManhattan> TheVerge, did you do anything different this time?
[09:04] <Ben64> TheVerge: interesting
[09:04] <gr33n7007h> dammit123, maybe try: `apt-cache madison <pkgname>`
[09:04] <bimma> ciao!
[09:04] <bimma> i've a quesion for you :D
[09:04] <bimma> I would mount via fstab a windows network share with  possibility to change permission, with chmod, of the subfolder... with cifs is not possible...
[09:05] <dammit123> gr33n7007h: also only shows the current version
[09:05] <Ben64> bimma: you asked the same thing in #ubuntu-offtopic and already received the answer...
[09:05] <DrManhattan> bimma, I don't think Unix file permissions mean anything to Windows hosts
[09:05] <Ben64> err.. #ubuntu-server
[09:05] <gr33n7007h> dammit123, sorry, don't know then :(
[09:06] <Ben64> dammit123: apt-cache show <package> ?
[09:06] <dammit123> Ben64: nope
[09:06] <Ben64> dammit123: works here
[09:07] <dammit123> Ben64: this works? apt-cache show libstdc++6 | grep 4\.9
[09:08] <dammit123> im looking for libstdc++6 4.9, cause firefox 34 depends on it >.<*
[09:08] <dammit123> (cause firefox 35 broke selenium)
[09:09] <Ben64> well i have 4.8, so no, it doesn't return 4.9
[09:09] <dammit123> well, found it thought browsing the repos manually... libstdc++6_4.9.1-16ubuntu6_amd64
[09:09] <Ben64> sounds like you're on the road to breaking your install
[09:09] <EriC^^> dammit123: apt-cache search libstdc++6 | grep 4\.9
[09:09] <dammit123> Ben64: and i was looking for a solution to find all available versions of a package
[09:10] <dammit123> Ben64: yeah, might be. but i need to get these test working...
[09:11] <dammit123> i wonder why firefox 34 even depends on libstdc++6 4.9 and then it got downgraded to 4.8...
[09:11] <Ben64> dammit123: what version of ubuntu are you on
[09:11] <dammit123> 14.04 LTS
[09:11] <Ben64> because 4.9 isn't on 14.04
[09:13] <dammit123> must have been
[09:13] <dammit123> apt-get install firefox=34.0+build2-0ubuntu2 -> http://ix.io/fNo
[09:13] <Ben64> nope, and firefox 34 requires libstdc++6 >=4.6
[09:14] <dammit123> hmm
[09:14] <Ben64> then sounds like you've already succeeded at breaking your install
[09:14] <dammit123> i doubt
[09:15] <Ben64> considering libstdc++6 4.9 isn't in 14.04, i'm fairly confident
[09:15] <Ben64> dammit123: what is the output of "apt-cache policy firefox"
[09:16] <dammit123> how did you check to which libstdc++6 firefox 34 depends on?
[09:17] <dammit123> Ben64: http://ix.io/fNp
[09:18] <Stanley00> dammit123: * ldd "$(which firefox)" * will list that
[09:19] <Ben64> dammit123: you must have some weird repository stuff going on
[09:19] <gr33n7007h> dammit123, sudo apt-get install whohas && whohas -d Ubuntu libstdc++
[09:19] <gr33n7007h> afk
[09:20] <mihael_k33hl> Hi, I've installed Ubuntu 14, and my google chrome keeps on freezing, even though I have enough memory free as per "free -m"
[09:21] <dammit123> so what would be the correct command to downgrade firefox to 34?
[09:21] <DrManhattan> mihael_k33hl, out of curiosity - are you running samba?
[09:22] <Ben64> dammit123: easiest way would be to use synaptic
[09:22] <mihael_k33hl> DrManhattan: nope
[09:22] <dammit123> Ben64: this is a headless server
[09:22] <Ben64> dammit123: but it's very likely you're mixing repositories or something else  bad
[09:24] <dammit123> Ben64: tell me http://ix.io/fNq
[09:25] <dammit123> should this be the correct version? apt-get install firefox=34.0+build2-0ubuntu2
[09:25] <EriC^^> dammit123: how us cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[09:25] <EriC^^> *show
[09:25] <dammit123> EriC^^: see my last posted link
[09:26] <EriC^^> dammit123: yes
[09:26] <dammit123> ah wait
[09:26] <EriC^^> !info firefox trusty
[09:26] <Ben64> I don't think old versions stay in the repositories?
[09:27] <dammit123> EriC^^: http://ix.io/fNr
[09:28] <EriC^^> Ben64: apparently they do, or it's using my cached deb, i have 3 firefox's when i apt-cache show
[09:28] <Ben64> i get two, 28 and 35
[09:28] <EriC^^> i have 35, 34 and 28
[09:28] <Ben64> are you still on 34?
[09:29] <EriC^^> Ben64: yeah, it's updating now
[09:29] <Ben64> then there you go, it'll disappear after
[09:29] <EriC^^> i guess 28 is like a fallback or something
[09:29] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:29] <Ben64> 28 is from the original 14.04 release
[09:29] <Ben64> 35 is from ubuntu-updates
[09:29] <dammit123> hmm, i wonder what that firefox 34 here then is http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/ its also missing the ubuntu release version
[09:30] <EriC^^> dammit123: i think you should install the 35 one
[09:30] <dammit123> EriC^^: i would, if it wouldnt break selenium
[09:31] <Ben64> theres a deb here ... https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/6599704
[09:31] <dammit123> so the question is, where do old ubuntu packages go?
[09:32] <OerHeks> dammit123, old browsers are removed, who wants them anyway ? it is a security issue, by mozilla i guess
[09:33] <EriC^^> dammit123: they're all still in the repos
[09:33] <EriC^^> dammit123: search for "firefox_" and they'll show up
[09:33] <EriC^^> ( in that webpage you linked )
[09:35] <dammit123> so which part of the version do i need to use for `apt-get install firefox=...` ?
[09:35] <MaxFrames> hello
[09:36] <MaxFrames> can you confirm that ddrescue logs only when the task is completed, and not in real time?
[09:36] <MaxFrames> I am trying to save a failing hdd to an image file
[09:36] <MaxFrames> this is the command I issued:
[09:36] <cfhowlett> MaxFrames, I believe you can set the level of verbosity
[09:36] <MaxFrames> sudo ddrescue -d -v -n -p /dev/sdc /media/sysadmin/Elements/ps3.hdd /media/sysadmin/SYSADMIN/ps3.log
[09:37] <EriC^^> dammit123: if you type apt-cache show firefox | grep Version , what do you get?
[09:37] <MaxFrames> the /dev/sdc is the failing hdd, the first path is the path to the image file on an external hdd, and the third path is the path to the log file on a thumb drive
[09:37] <MaxFrames> what I am seeing is this:
[09:38] <MaxFrames> 1) despite the -p switch, the space has not been preallocated on the target drive, the image file is growing in size
[09:38] <MaxFrames> 2) still no log files on the thumb drive
[09:38] <MaxFrames> 3) despite the -v switch, I can see no messages on screen
[09:38] <dammit123> ok, installed the deb manually, thanks Ben64. (still dunno how im supposed to do that with apt-get)
[09:39] <Ben64> dammit123: don't think you can in this case
[09:39] <EriC^^> dammit123: that's not recommended
[09:39] <EriC^^> dammit123: btw you installed the utopic firefox
[09:39] <MaxFrames> I _think_ it is doing something since the image file is growing, but I cannot see what
[09:39] <dammit123> Ben64: you mean only old versions of firefox gets removed from the repos?
[09:39] <Guest46653> hello i m facing weird bug... if i open chromium with 14.04 i have and error message about login error.. i have to click on ok about 6 or 7 times with a message every time
[09:39] <MaxFrames> can you help?
[09:40] <Guest46653> i googled and found temporal solution going and delete file WebData.... and the problem is gone... till i reboot the system.... any solution ?
[09:40] <Guest46653> thanks
[09:40] <dammit123> EriC^^: the first one i tried from the repos? yeah, i get the impression now too
[09:41] <EriC^^> dammit123: i mean that webpage you linked to is for utopic
[09:41] <EriC^^> dammit123: when you type apt-cache show firefox | grep Version , do you get a 34 version?
[09:41] <dammit123> EriC^^: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/6599704/+files/firefox_34.0%2Bbuild2-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_amd64.deb looks like 14.04 to me, and selenium works again
[09:42] <Ben64> not the best solution, but is a solution .... kinda
[09:42] <Ben64> now you're stuck with an outdated browser ... yay?
[09:42] <dammit123> until selenium gets fixed
[09:42] <dammit123> and till then i can still work. yay!
[09:45] <dammit123> Ben64: and its not me whos stuck with old browser, just our testing system (for our webapp) :D
[09:49] <TheVerge> Are you still around Ben64
[09:49] <dammit123> thank you all for the help! back to work.
[09:49] <Ben64> TheVerge: kinda
[09:51] <TheVerge> Ben64, I got the system booted and changed back to the original recommended driver
[09:51] <Ben64> sounds good
[09:52] <TheVerge> Ben64, I have just tried to play an MKV video file and the audio is fine but the video is a bit choppy
[09:54] <TheVerge> Ben64, My system specs are here http://n40l.wikia.com/wiki/Base_Hardware_N40L
[09:55] <Ben64> TheVerge: yeah, i'd imagine it'd be choppy... kind of low on specs
[09:56] <TheVerge> I am also running Ubuntu Desktop 14.04 32bit
[09:56] <TheVerge> Ben64, I thought it would be fine with the new GPU. My Pi plays them fine over NFS
[09:56] <Ben64> if you had an nvidia gpu, sure. it has hardware acceleration, just like the Pi does
[09:57] <Ben64> i'm not very well versed in amd, they might as well, but you have an older one
[09:58] <TheVerge> Ben64, I wanted an nvidia card but they wouldn't fit inside the case :(
[09:59] <TheVerge> Plus I believe they have better compatibility with Linux
[10:00] <Ben64> there are small ones... gtx 750 is short
[10:00] <TheVerge> It's more the heatsink and fan that are the issues
[10:00] <Ben64> and yeah, I haven't had AMD gpu in my computer since like 2004 :) Nvidia works so much easier
[10:04] <yourbeau> how secure is SSL connection to freenode ?
[10:04] <yourbeau> if I use Ubuntu
[10:04] <MaxFrames> ssl v3 256 bits.... :(
[10:05] <yourbeau> MaxFrames, ain't it TLS ?
[10:05] <MaxFrames> [10:01:46] [SSL] Cifrario della trasmissione attuale
[10:05] <MaxFrames> [10:01:46] [SSL]:  Cifrario: DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
[10:05] <MaxFrames> [10:01:46] [SSL]:  Versione: TLSv1/SSLv3
[10:05] <MaxFrames> [10:01:46] [SSL]:  Bit 256 (usati 256)
[10:06] <MaxFrames> what do you reckon?
[10:06] <Ben64> yourbeau: you should ask network questions in #freenode
[10:09] <yourbeau> MaxFrames, does it provide us enough security from sniffers ?
[10:09] <yourbeau> Ben64, ok
[10:14] <cydd_> hi
[10:19] <colonolGron> hi
[10:19] <duffer> I've downloaded some packages (via the "-d" switch) on 12.04. Now I'll be installing 14.04 (from an ISO) Can I use those deb files on 14.04 as well?
[10:19] <colonolGron> i have ubuntu installed now installed another OS. how can i update grub? just doing grub-mkconfig >> /boot/grub/grub.cfg and then run update-grub?
[10:21] <colonolGron> hm there is not update-grub..is lubuntu using grub2 or grub by default? so i can reinstall update-grub...
[10:22] <bubbasaures> colonolGron, sudo update-grub
[10:23] <bubbasaures> it is grub 2
[10:23] <colonolGron> bubbasaures: no grub-mkconfig needed?
[10:23] <cfhowlett> !grub2 | colonolGron
[10:24] <bubbasaures> colonolGron, Never seen it used to update grub
[10:24] <colonolGron> okay, thanks
[10:25] <duffer> bubbasaures: Do deb files from 12.04 work on 14.04? or do I need to download them again?
[10:26] <bubbasaures> duffer, This is not pick a nick and ask.
[10:26] <bubbasaures> never use packages from another release
[10:26] <Ben64> duffer: you do not want to mix packages for different versions
[10:27] <duffer> are all packages version specific?
[10:27] <Ben64> yep
[10:28] <diverdude> hello, when i do:  umount /media/DISK791/ i get: umount: /media/DISK791: device is busy. How do i figure out what process is using that device? sudo fuser -vm /media/DISK791/ returns nothing and neither does lsof. what can i do?
[10:28] <Ahmuck> hi.  i've been testing browsers (text) and i noticed they have a primary link "canoical".  Is ubuntu appending all http traffic or have modified all browsers to ...
[10:34] <ante_> r
[10:35] <xtpeeps> No one online... oO
[10:45] <blackyboy> How can i Control a user not to Access crontab Command in Ubuntu Desktop and server
[10:48] <cfhowlett> blackyboy, only administrator users should be able to access that.  so make a regular deskto user = lower privileges
[10:49] <blackyboy> cfhowlett: i have admin privilege now i want to disable cron access for other users only i want to access
[10:49] <cfhowlett> blackyboy, so long as those others users are NOT admin ... done!
[10:50] <blackyboy> there is sudo vim /etc/at.deny available to disable at option but there is not cronjob
[10:54] <diverdude> when i do sudo lsof /media/DISK791/ nothing happens, but still i get device is busy when i try to umount it. what is happening?
[10:54] <rrr_> how to use rsync?
[10:55] <cfhowlett> rrr_, man rsync for details
[10:56] <rrr_> cfhowlett: i used scp. it is very slow it seems just hung there.
[10:57] <rrr_> cfhowlett: so rsync is the same usage as scp?
[10:58] <cfhowlett> rrr_, never used either so I've no experience to base an answer on
[11:03] <vmassuchetto> I can't install Skype due to unmet dependencies in 14.04. I had already tried something with no success: http://pastebin.com/naq4cKNP Any clue?
[11:09] <Ben64> rrr_: the man page for rsync should explain it better than anyone else could
[11:23] <xtpeeps> Test
[11:24] <cfhowlett> !test | xtpeeps
[11:25] <xtpeeps> O  okey....so is there a test channel?
[11:26] <cfhowlett> xtpeeps, read the above ...
[11:26] <xtpeeps> Testing... testing...
[11:26] <xtpeeps> ;p
[11:27] <uporot> xtpeeps  u test android andchat ?
[11:28] <xtpeeps> Yep
[11:29] <xtpeeps> uporot: How do u know that ?
[11:29] <uporot> xtpeeps , info
[11:30] <uporot> xtpeeps , where u from &
[11:30] <uporot> ?
[11:31] <xtpeeps> U mean country?
[11:32] <uporot> xtpeeps , yes
[11:33] <xtpeeps> uporot: Com from China
[11:33] <xtpeeps> uporot: :)
[11:34] <gagalicious> how do i detect nic network card in my pc
[11:34] <uporot> xtpeeps , i frm Russia
[11:34] <cfhowlett> guys  please socialize elsewhere.  this is the support channel
[11:35] <uporot> cfhowlett, ok
[11:36] <xtpeeps> Oops
[11:36] <cfhowlett> gagalicious, try this:  http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialNetworking-Add_NIC.html
[11:36] <xtpeeps> cfhowlett: ok
[11:36] <gagalicious> yeah i am looking at it
[11:36] <gagalicious> but funny my network card is not detecting!
[11:36] <gagalicious> i mean it doenst work with /etc/network/interfaces...
[11:36] <gagalicious> even if dhcp already on
[11:36] <gagalicious> how do i check what name is m y network card?
[11:37] <vaikai> LXLE support here?
[11:39] <gagalicious> i have a question
[11:39] <cfhowlett> !flavors | vaikai
[11:39] <gagalicious> how come my eth3 starts with eth3??? how do i make it start with eth0?
[11:41] <vaikai> wireless network connection is connecting and disconnecting every 8-15 seconds. Strength is 65%. Internet is working.
[11:42] <vaikai> How to get stable connection?
[11:45] <EriC^^> vaikai: type lspci | grep Wireless
[11:45] <BobBall> Help! Why does my upstart keep running multiple processes?  e.g. ps aux | grep 'upstart' shows 2 each of udev, socket and file.  I don't care about those, but I do have my own upstart script which can only have one instance running at a time
[11:57] <uhhimhere> so why is MIR "loved" so much by the linux community?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> uhhimhere, discuss in ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic...this channel is for #ubuntu support.  thank you.
[12:03] <MaxFrames> hey I have put lubuntu 14.04 iso on a thumb drive with unetbooting (from windows) but it boots to a busybox prompt. what gives?
[12:04] <cfhowlett> MaxFrames, verify your .iso and the usb.  one or the other is likely bad
[12:04] <cfhowlett> !md5sum MaxFrames
[12:04] <MaxFrames> can a bad usb drive cause lubuntu to morph into busybox?
[12:05] <cfhowlett> MaxFrames, bad hardware can do all manner of strange things.
[12:05] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | MaxFrames
[12:05] <oddeyed> MaxFrames: Busybox isn't another distro, it's just a shell which you get dropped to if stuff goes wrong.
[12:06] <MaxFrames> I see
[12:06] <MaxFrames> could it be it can't boot on the hardware?
[12:06] <MaxFrames> i.e. good iso, good usb drive, incompatibility with the hardware?
[12:06] <cfhowlett> MaxFrames, test: get a different drive.  but verify your .iso first
[12:07] <MaxFrames> I don't have another usb drive :/ I can only redownload the iso and/or md5 test it
[12:07] <cfhowlett> MaxFrames, ALWAYS verify your .iso!
[12:07] <MaxFrames> cfhowlett: the only reason I didn't do that yet is that I already used this very ISO, multiple times
[12:08] <cfhowlett> MaxFrames, md5sum : 1. .iso  2. USB
[12:08] <cecja> first time you install an iso from this stick? maybe it's an old grub fucking with you
[12:08] <cfhowlett> cecja, good point but please - !language
[12:08] <MaxFrames> I have used this stick before
[12:09] <MaxFrames> when I boot, it shows a blue unetbootin screen with just "default" and "exit" as choices
[12:09] <MaxFrames> it should have shown the lubuntu live screen
[12:09] <cfhowlett> MaxFrames, in the time since I first suggested you verify your media, you could have done both and eliminated 2 possible sources of trouble.
[12:10] <Codmadnesspro> So I plan on migrating servers but i'm not sure what software to use for this, I don't really want to pay $100 for a migrate, so is there anything free?
[12:10] <xuelanghu> hi
[12:10] <cfhowlett> Codmadnesspro, perhaps a good question for #ubuntu-server
[12:10] <cecja> dd the iso to the stick if you don't want to debug anything and the iso formerly workerd
[12:10] <cfhowlett> !cn | xuelanghu,
[12:10] <cecja> -r
[12:11] <cecja> Codmadnesspro: the question is more about the scale of your operation.
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:14] <Industrial> Hi. I'm running the xmonad Window Manager. I am using `nitrogen` to save and restore wallpaper settings. When I start Nautilus it resets the wallpaper to the Ubuntu wallpaper.
[12:14] <Industrial> Can I get it not to do that? Anything with the desktop?
[12:14] <Industrial> I can't find anything about this in the Nautilus options.
[12:14] <devzdesilva> fhey
[12:17] <Industrial> I dont need or want an account to be able to do a bug submit :-(
[12:17] <devzdesilva> clear
[12:18] <Industrial> Well, now I need to replace nautilus :S it has very weird behaviour when you start it thats not modifyable in its settings.
[12:18] <Industrial> Why should a file manager have anything to do with a desktop wallpaper?
[12:19] <devzdesilva> #c++
[12:19] <cfhowlett> devzdesilva, ask your ubuntu questions here
[12:21] <jpds_> Industrial: They all use the same settings backend.
[12:22] <Industrial> jpds_: Thats fine, but I'm not going to make my toaster cook eggs
[12:22] <devzdesilva> hey
[12:22] <cfhowlett> !ask | devzdesilva,
[12:25] <blu3ski3s> i just installed ubuntu and currently in the process in setting up vm's using virtual box. Does anyone know how to setup vm per each tty (if that makes sence) eg: ctrl+alt 2 will display windows 7 vm (full screen & loaded on boot). i tried to google it but no success
[12:26] <EriC^^> blu3ski3s: what's the tty have to do with anything?
[12:28] <blu3ski3s> well this is likely why im asking for help but isnt the shortcut to tty2 for example ctrl+alt 2? (ive seen it implemented at uni)
[12:28] <blu3ski3s> then tty4 for example is red hat
[12:29] <blu3ski3s> i might be mistaken, any pointers will be appreciated
[12:29] <EriC^^> blu3ski3s: ok, with the tty you wont have a gui
[12:29] <EriC^^> blu3ski3s: can you explain what you want to achieve?
[12:30] <blu3ski3s> 2 vm's booted on boot and can simply switch between them
[12:30] <Industrial> I get it now. Using dconf-editor.
[12:30] <EriC^^> ok, you can boot the vm's from the command line in your startup apps
[12:30] <Industrial> That's not really nice though :( should be GUI options for this
[12:31] <blu3ski3s> thats fine i dont mind
[12:31] <Industrial> this system gives me the chills (dconf) it reminds me of the windows registry
[12:31] <blu3ski3s> haha
[12:31] <Industrial> like.. who thought it was a good idea to copy THAT >_>
[12:31] <Industrial> (as opposed to homedir config files)
[12:31] <blu3ski3s> haha, it was probs the same guy that did it for windows
[12:31] <blu3ski3s> so evil
[12:33] <gagalicious> possible to have my thin client running even if the server is shut dow
[12:33] <gagalicious> n?
[12:33] <gagalicious> basically my thin client do an nfs over the network to the server system filesystem
[12:35] <EriC^^> blu3ski3s: you can press right ctrl, then alt+tab to switch between the vms
[12:36] <blu3ski3s> not smooth though, the system i saw was literally just like it was multiple desktops. almost like a kvm
[12:38] <wodrow> anyone here?
[12:38] <blu3ski3s> wodrow: nope
[12:38] <EriC^^> blu3ski3s: you could put it in a workspace that way you'd only have the vm's in the alt+tab
[12:39] <cfhowlett> !ask | wodrow
[12:39] <blu3ski3s> EriC^^:  yeah, but would i have to put it in full screen mode etc every boot?
[12:40] <EriC^^> blu3ski3s: i think you can start a vm in full screen mode
[12:40] <blu3ski3s> EriC^^: Valid tips, but i want it more professional looking. So if i have to implement it other places ill know how.
[12:41] <blu3ski3s> ok np ill have a look into it more, thanks
[12:41] <blu3ski3s> how bad is empathy compared to mirc lmao
[12:43] <bodybuilder22> hi
[12:45] <DeaDSouL> hey guys... does anyone know what could be the idealist processor for a high-end NAS server ?
[12:45] <tomodachi> DeaDSouL: ideal is something very relative
[12:45] <cfhowlett> DeaDSouL, that's a great ##hardware question ...
[12:45] <DeaDSouL> tomodachi: I want it for NAS server
[12:46] <tomodachi> DeaDSouL: if i was running  a nas server i would probably not even run it on linux , but use Freenas (based on freebsd)
[12:46] <tomodachi> since it has zfs
[12:46] <tomodachi> there i would go for at least 2ghz whatever with 1 gig ecc for each Terrabyte of Data
[12:47] <DeaDSouL> tomodachi: why would you do that? what if you want to change your main nas-server os later?? with all the zfs filesystem ?? it is gonna be a real problem,, I guess
[12:49] <DeaDSouL> tomodachi: specially if you go with one of the zfs raids ...
[12:50] <DeaDSouL> am i right ?
[12:50] <stevenm> You know how Firefox gets a special exception when it comes to updates (i.e. LTS will get new versions of firefox as they come out even *if* it means introducing new features) - does this apply to Thunderbird too? and how about LibreOffice - will it follow whatever LibreOffice considers to be 'Still' (the stable release) ?
[12:51] <DeaDSouL> since freenas has developed their own thing for zfs.. i think it'll be really hard to get those data from the harddrives with linux later on...
[12:51] <ngaio> is there much point in filling a bug for a repeatable kernel crash on 14.10?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> stevenm, best to ask the support channels/forums of those products about their development protocols.   not ubuntu sponsored or managed