[00:18] <yeats> flying_sausages: https://stackoverflow.com/a/11777792/1692794 will probably help
[00:26] <LePatron> org
[00:32] <ken_> I am having installing mkchromecast in Ubuntu Mate.  Downloaded deb package....tried to install it....the Status says Error: Dependency is not satisfable: python3-pychromecast
[00:32] <ken_> any ideas how to resolve?
[00:33] <granttrec> ken_: download the dep
[00:34] <ken_> i did
[00:34] <ken_> double clicked
[00:34] <ken_> package installer
[00:34] <ken_> then error
[00:36] <granttrec> ken_: might be a broken package, google around to check
[00:37] <granttrec> does anyone have a problem with scaling in firefox or chrome in ubuntu? does not seem to scale as well as on windows...
[00:41] <w30e84sdho> !Oatmeal Bertrand Russell - A History of Western Philosophy (pdf).rar
[00:49] <xmorgaine> list of irc channels
[00:51] <antonm> Hi
[00:55] <ke5wma_Paul> KE5WMA_Paul
[01:01] <foobar__> I have a HP microserver running 14.04, tried a 'do-release upgrade', now my driver/kernel module for my network card won't load, its a Broadcom BCM5723
[01:02] <foobar__> 'lshw -C network' shows it to be UNCLAIMED, lsmod says tg3 is not loaded
[01:03] <foobar__> if i try: 'modprobe tg3' I get ERROR could not insert tg3 Unknown symbol in module or unknown parameter
[01:03] <Bashing-om> foobar__: Proprietary driver // got broke in the upgrade process ?
[01:03] <Bashing-om> !bcm | foobar__
[01:04] <foobar__> if I check the directory of /lib/modules/4.4.0-121-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/ tg3.ko is not present, but on a fresh 16.04 install it is there
[01:05] <foobar__> ubottu OK will try that link
[01:05] <foobar__> ha
[01:06] <Bashing-om> foobar__: That is "assumming" that Broadcom BCM5723 is still proprietary .
[01:07] <foobar__> if I copy over the tg3.ko from the fresh ubuntu16.04 running identical kernels, and run a depmod,modprobe tg3, I now get: error could not insert 'tg3' Exec format error
[01:08] <foobar__> Bashing-om not sure
[01:09] <Bashing-om> foobar__: Lots and lots I do not know .. but rather than copy over a file from an old build on an older kernel, I do suggest a new build on the current kernel .
[01:10] <foobar__> You mean compile the module?
[01:11] <foobar__> This guy has the exact issue as me: https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2354105.html
[01:12] <foobar__> Except his solution was to reinstall
[01:12] <foobar__> I copied this tg3.ko from another 16.04 with 4.4.0-121 kernel
[01:13] <Bashing-om> foobar__: Let me go read the instruction . Be back soonest .
[01:18] <Bashing-om> !info bcmwl-kernel-source xenial
[01:18] <foobar__> Mine is ethernet, not wireless
[01:20] <Bashing-om> foobar__: Yes, the 2 are intertwinned .. the ^ " bcmwl-kernel-source " is going down the wrong hole .
[01:21] <foobar__> Sorry I don't follow, should I try to install that package?
[01:28] <Bashing-om> foobar__: No, that ^^ is not for the BCM57xxx series .. I be trying to find the install instructions for your chip set .
[01:28] <foobar__> Cheers
[01:29] <gbellinoz1> I've got dozens of logs coming in from various machines.  For some, I've written a tool that just shows me the differences day-to-day.  But others are just noisy.  I use logcheck but think I need something more sophisticated.  I just want to see the problems.  What's the tool of choice these days for that?
[01:31] <robson> oi
[01:31] <robson> Hi
[01:38] <Budgii> Is there a program that I can make a backup of my system then 'install' it into a new OS? i'm wanting to go from Budgie to Solus.
[01:38] <Budgii> Or just on upgrade option would be cool.
[01:39] <SlidingHorn> Budgii: try #solus - this is an ubuntu support channel
[01:39] <Budgii> thanks!
[01:42] <gbellinoz1> I see nagios is still around... I guess I need to distinguish between watching, summarizing, alerting...
[01:42] <gbellinoz1> I just want a daily email with only the unusual stuff that happened.
[01:44] <Bashing-om> foobar__: Still looking .. not found a "solved" solution to this time .
[01:54] <Bashing-om> foobar__: Sorry. I do not find a solution . Will take others here with the geater experience to aid you .
[02:09] <arooni> question: //<IP_ADDRESS>/media/Main  8.0K     0  8.0K   0% /media/HardDriveArooni ;; mounting a samba drive  but it reports the wrong isze
[02:10] <foobar__> Bashing-om OK, thanks for trying.
[02:12] <Bashing-om> foobar__: Has my interest . I will watch the progress .
[02:13] <poogle> Hi I'm installing ubuntu from a minimal ISO on a usb stick, and it's not seeing my wireless card, and is only trying ethernet. when I open shell from installer, and type ip link list, I only see lo and enp6s0 ... but lspci is showing that the wifi (rtl8188) is loaded ... how do I bring up the wifi interface?
[02:20] <oerheks> poogle, not with the mini iso, use a regular iso for that
[02:21] <poogle> oerheks, You can't activate wifi from mini iso?
[02:23] <oerheks> nope, but next ubuntu will have the minimal option included.
[02:25] <poogle> bummer ... thanks though
[03:01] <oerheks> 2 more days, get used to  ̶g̶k̶s̶u̶ gedit admin://<location of the file>
[03:02] <cfhowlett> pkexex gedit works as well
[03:02] <cfhowlett> ***pkexec***
[03:04] <oerheks> true, so there is more than one way to do it
[03:06] <adrian_1908> Oh, interesting. I there some link on that new method? I think I briefly saw it mentioned here (or elsewhere) a few months ago.
[03:08] <oerheks> https://itsfoss.com/gksu-replacement-ubuntu/
[03:08] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue524
[03:10] <oerheks> oh sorry for the nwslatter spam, but this issue is really good
[03:13] <Bashing-om> oerheks: And the gksu issue has a summary :)
[03:16] <foobar__> Bashing-om getting closer: "dmesg | grep tg3" tg3: disagrees about version of symbol module_layout
[03:17] <adrian_1908> thanks! :)
[03:18] <foobar__> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/125624/unable-to-load-module-disagrees-about-version-of-symbol-module-layout
[03:20] <Bashing-om> foobar__: My looking and "tg3" is a Red Hat module . I do not know that it translated over to ubuntu :(
[03:21] <nacc> Bashing-om: tg3 is an upstream kernel module
[03:21] <nacc> also present in ubuntu
[03:22] <Bashing-om> nacc: :) noted .
[03:23] <Bashing-om> nacc: foobar__ can not get the module to load .     I am on 16.04 should i upgrade to 17.10 or 18
[04:28] <Bashing-om> en1gma: I would rather see ^ that complete output in a pastebin - see that there is no linkage to the -38 kernel .
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> asprazz: we reccomend lts to lts upgrade in june 18.04.1
[04:29] <asprazz> lotuspsychje: Oke so is it the new release comming up...?
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> asprazz: yes final release is april 26
[04:29] <asprazz> thank you.... btw there nothing in pastebin
[04:31] <en1gma> Bashing-om ok 1 sec
[04:31] <en1gma> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/PY9k4tcnMT/
[04:34] <Bashing-om> en1gma: working on setting up the symlinks for ya .  as is now no danger , The system will boot up again :)
[04:36] <en1gma> oh ok cool
[04:37] <en1gma> what will the symlink do for me now and can i still run 'apt-get autoremove' and 'apt-get autoclean'? i use those quite a bit
[04:38] <Bashing-om> en1gma: ' sudo ln -s /boot/vmlinuz-4.13.0-38-generic /vmlinuz.old ; sudo ln -s /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-38-generic /initrd.img.old ' .
[04:38] <Bashing-om> en1gma: In the event that the 39 kernel does not boot there is the baclup -38 kernel set in place .
[04:39] <Bashing-om> backup*
[04:39] <en1gma> ok gonna try now
[04:40] <en1gma> brb i hope
[04:44] <en1gma> Bashing-om reboot made it
[04:44] <en1gma> should i do apt-get update then apt-get autoremove then apt-get autoclean?
[04:47] <Bashing-om> en1gma:  The sequence is ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' If autoremove is suggested here then one may do so; If you mp longer want .deb files archived on the system then yes do autoclean .
[04:48] <en1gma> ok
[04:48] <en1gma> thanks alot. gonna do some of the commands now
[04:49] <soumyadip> hello
[04:49] <en1gma> left autoremove alone
[04:49] <en1gma> thanks again
[04:49] <soumyadip> my sudo apt-get update is very slow
[04:50] <soumyadip> other things are running good
[04:50] <soumyadip> I mean browser and all
[05:08] <shreyasbapat_> Hi! I am Shreyas and I wish to contribute to Ubuntu. Can someone please help me get started?
[05:09] <Bashing-om> !contribute | shreyasbapat_
[05:12] <Bashing-om> shreyasbapat_: Also see : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2260620&p=13206678#post13206678 <- Find a task .
[05:12] <shreyasbapat_> Okay! Thanks a lot for help!
[06:39] <olorenz> exit
[06:40] <omkarnathsingh> Hi all. good morning.
[06:41] <omkarnathsingh> Ubuntu LTS 18.04 any early users here?
[06:41] <Irritiable|LT> No.
[06:41] <ducasse> !18.04 | omkarnathsingh
[06:42] <omkarnathsingh> Okay. Thanks.
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> omkarnathsingh: in #ubuntu+1 you can install the daily iso if you want early
[06:53] <omkarnathsingh> lotuspsychje: I am already using 18.04 daily build. I am more interested to see whats reaction of others. Thats why I joined here. (New to IRC)
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> ah come to #ubuntu-discuss if you like omkarnathsingh
[07:07] <Norux> is there a way to reset my /etc/network/interfaces ?
[07:07] <maum> how can I access mysql? -> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user
[07:09] <ducasse> Norux: what do you mean reset? it's a text file, you can just edit it.
[07:10] <Norux> I mean reset it to its original value
[07:11] <ducasse> no, there isn't.
[07:11] <akay> maum: did you specify a password and an user? -> mysql -u root -p
[07:12] <maum> akay: thanks the issue is solved!
[07:13] <akay> Norux: the default of that file is to look for DHCP, i. e.: auto eth0; iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:14] <Norux> akay: I know that, I somehow managed to destroy it and now it only has two lines. I tried to setup a DNS Server but I'm dumb >.<
[07:14] <akay> so just set it back to iface eth0 inet dhcp and delete your dns lines? :)
[07:16] <akay> replace eth0 with your corresponding iface, see ifconfig
[07:17] <Norux> akay: There are none in there. `cat /etc/network/interfaces` shows: `auto l0 \n iface l0 inet loopback`
[07:18] <akay> then type in sudo ifconfig, look out for the interface that has your LAN IP
[07:18] <Norux> `ifconfig` gives me interfaces enp5s0, lo and wlp2s0
[07:18] <akay> then its the enp5s0 one
[07:18] <akay> so do this:
[07:18] <Norux> I do have internet connection on LAN, but can't start the wifi hotspot
[07:18] <akay> oh... i see.
[07:19] <srikanth> gj
[07:19] <hlias_temp> Hello, is something wrong with xenial-backports ?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> hlias_temp: why?
[07:20] <hlias_temp> apt-get yields 403 Forbidden error\
[07:20] <hlias_temp> http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-backports/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> hlias_temp: your not behind router or firewall?
[07:21] <akay> Norux: you might try to manually add your wifi interface back to the interfaces file by typing this into the file:
[07:21] <akay> auto wlp2s0
[07:21] <akay> iface wlp2s0 inet dhcp
[07:21] <hlias_temp> lotuspsychje: check the link I gave you
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> hlias_temp: yeah not working on my side either, ask in #ubuntu-mirrors please
[07:21] <ducasse> hlias_temp: ask in #ubuntu-mirrors if there are any known problems with that mirror
[07:21] <akay> maybe that will be enough to get you up and running, dont forget to sudo systemctl restart networking
[07:22] <hlias_temp> thanks guys
[07:22] <granttrec> how can I create an image of my system using gnome disk utility?
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> !backup | granttrec
[07:25] <granttrec> lotuspsychje: I use deja dup, but I want a quick way to make an image so i can revert back to it
[07:28] <Zajt> What is the opposite eto sudo a2enconf ssl-params, if I want to disable it?
[07:29] <akay> Zajt: a2disconf
[07:30] <Zajt> thanks
[07:31] <Norux> akay: Ah, thanks. I'll try it right away.
[07:33] <Norux> akay: Still gives me an error on connect: IP-Configuration not available (original error message not in english)
[07:33] <akay> what does ifconfig say? can you try to connect to a wifi first before trying to create a hotspot?
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> hlias_temp: i reported it, its taking care of tnx for the report
[07:34] <Norux> akay: http://termbin.com/xez7
[07:35] <hlias_temp> lotuspsychje: sorry for not reporting it directly, I'm a bit bussy!
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> hlias_temp: no sweat, not really your task
[07:35] <Norux> akay: yes, I can connect with WiFi
[07:35] <akay> Norux: deutsche fehlermeldungen werd ich verstehen :p so, can you try to connect to a wifi so we can close out some error sources?
[07:36] <akay> Norux: nice. let me read into hotspotting, brb
[07:36] <Norux> akay: danke dir :)
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> hlias_temp: check again after 12min plz
[07:37] <hlias_temp> lotuspsychje: you can check directly the url, if I am not mistaken
[07:37] <hlias_temp> lotuspsychje: if it gets fixed there shouldn't be a 403 error
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> hlias_temp: its been taking care of
[07:39] <trans> hello can you help me to find for ubuntu - a offline software like  http://utilities.webdunia.com/hindi/transliteration.html
[07:43] <trans> hello can you help me to find for ubuntu - a offline software like  http://utilities.webdunia.com/hindi/transliteration.html Webdunia Engine for Transliteration (WET)
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> !patience | trans
[07:45] <trans> yea thanks i searcheda lot but does not found any on help.ubuntu.com
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> trans: apt-cache search offline, while you wait?
[07:47] <trans> what offline seach will have to do with finding a offline transliteration software for ubuntu  ?
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> trans: you are here online right now right
[07:48] <trans> yes i need a software for translation automatically english to hindi without going online on ubuntu
[07:49] <trans> phonetic english to hindi from keyboard for ubuntu
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> trans: you can make webpages offline too if you want
[07:50] <Irritiable|LT> IMEI?
[07:50] <user___> Hello,   Following scenario:  16.04  remote server. Ubuntu RAID 1.  used DD to image the array md0,md1,md2 and dd to restore to the same server. Reboot the server and I can not access it via ssh but I can ping it.  Can someone give me some pointers on getting access to the system? I have no GUI or web services installed on it. No VNC only ssh as of now.
[07:50] <Irritiable|LT> http://www.textfugu.com/bb/topic/install-instructions-ime-on-ubuntulinux/
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> !who | Irritiable|LT
[07:52] <trans> lotus i need a deb for ubuntu a software that work as offline to convert phonetic english that i type from keyboard get transiliterated automatically to hindi
[07:56] <JimBuntu> trans, I don't know of an immediate solution... check this out though -> http://www.hackourlife.com/typewrite-in-hindi-and-sanskrit-with-latex/
[07:58] <Zajt> Is there a way to clear logs for some users accounts in ubuntu?
[07:59] <akay> Zajt: what logs? need more info
[07:59] <Zajt> like people ssh into their accounts and maybe create some files(will check if they have created some files) but wanna reset all that stuff
[08:00] <Zajt> so it won't be any logs that they have done some things, don't think they are any files though but will check
[08:01] <Irritiable|LT> Zajt: Malware project?
[08:01] <Zajt> nope
[08:10] <Zajt> Is it possible to install git for multiple user accounts or do I need to install it with it's own email for each user account?
[08:13] <jluc> Zajt, you could /join #git for git support
[08:13] <confluency> Zajt: it's a package. It gets installed system-wide like most other programs.
[08:13] <Zajt> alright great
[08:13] <confluency> Zajt: everyone has their own configuration, but everyone can use the same installed application.
[08:14] <Zajt> okay great
[08:16] <Rembo> how can i grep txt from all files content in a folder?
[08:16] <EriC^^> Rembo: grep "text" *
[08:18] <Rembo> EriC^^, this command will search recursive including in subfolders files?
[08:19] <EriC^^> no, grep -R "text" /dir  for recursive
[08:19] <confluency> Rembo: you can also have a look at ack.
[08:20] <confluency> (ack has a successor now; I'm forgetting what it is. It's a "nicer" grep which recurses and ignores version control directories by default.)
[08:22] <confluency> The successor utility is called ag; I'm looking for the package name.
[08:22] <EriC^^> !find ag
[08:22] <confluency> silversearcher-ag
[08:23] <confluency> The executable is called ag; I think I have mine aliased to ack.
[08:24] <user___> Any one around can help me with restoring A server using DD ?
[08:34] <dreadkopp83> hey guys. anyone might be able to help me set up network bonding ?
[08:35] <dreadkopp83> this is my /etc/network/interfaces: https://hastebin.com/afulireqen.php
[08:37] <dreadkopp83> when i run a 'systemctl restart networking' i read that 'No slave joined bond0' , dmesg says APv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): bond0: link not ready
[08:56] <slavplay> hey
[08:56] <slavplay> who is using The beat of 18.04 ubuntu?
[08:56] <slavplay> beta
[08:57] <kostkon> slavplay, #ubuntu+1 for 18.04 related questions
[08:57] <slavplay> damn wifi
[08:58] <slavplay> Anybody?
[08:58] <slavplay> 1579 online yet no reply
[09:09] <Norux> slavplay, what is your question
[09:19] <atif5> hi
[09:20] <atif5> hi
[09:20] <atif5> hi
[09:20] <Norux> hi
[09:21] <atif5> any human here ?
[09:21] <Norux> A lot
[09:21] <atif5> nope all 1500  are bot
[09:21] <guiverc> atif5, if you have a Ubuntu support question, please just ask it. Please use a single line, and be patient as many people do other things
[09:22] <adrian_1908> 99% are eternal superfluous idlers, but the remaining people might be able to help you if you state your problem.
[09:40] <boba> Hi, I would like to check out a git repository modify it (change existing files or remove some of them) zip it and send it to someone else. However, I would like to not give them access to the git repository (i.e., when they unzip the folder they should not be able to do git pull or similar). How should I do it?
[09:40] <Triffid_Hunter> boba: rm -r .git
[09:40] <Triffid_Hunter> oh, maybe -rf because git marks some things as read-only
[09:42] <Norux> boba, Triffid_Hunter: put a rm .gitignore there too, maybe?
[09:43] <Triffid_Hunter> boba: well .gitignore isn't really part of the git history, that's instructions to git from the developer on which filetypes to blacklist.. you can remove it if you want
[09:45] <Gargravarr> boba: https://stackoverflow.com/a/163769/419426
[09:46] <boba> Triffid_Hunter: Norux thanks. so the complete command would be "rm -rf .git .gitignore"
[09:46] <Gargravarr> apparently this will still contain .gitignore and other .git* files but will exclude the .git working folder
[09:47] <Norux> boba: that will remove any git-associated files.
[09:47] <Gargravarr> boba: could simplify with 'rm -rf .git*'
[09:47] <Gargravarr> that's guaranteed to delete any git metadata
[09:48] <Norux> Gargravarr: careful. He might have a file called .git-information.txt or something like that
[09:48] <Gargravarr> Norux: this is very true. i never said it wouldn't delete any non-git data :)
[09:49] <Gargravarr> although having any git-related but important information as a dot-file is a silly practise anyway
[09:53] <hke> .gitmodules?
[09:59] <boba> Thank you everyone. For now it seems the simplest would be to do "rm -rf .git .gitignore .gitmodules" or "rm -rf .git*". I will also check https://stackoverflow.com/a/163769/419426, what Gargravarr suggested.
[10:00] <Gargravarr> with SVN, it's standard practise to run 'svn export' to get a clean copy of the versioned tree without any of the metadata. 'git archive' seems to be the closest
[10:01] <martenwang> how to check the git url with the git command ? as svn info
[10:02] <Gargravarr> martenwang: git remote list
[10:02] <martenwang> thank you
[10:03] <Gargravarr> martenwang: ah, i got it wrong
[10:03] <Gargravarr> git remote get-url origin
[10:03] <martenwang> Gargravarr  hahah
[10:03] <Gargravarr> eh, it was from memory :)
  ok i am test it now
[10:04] <ooolos> hello can anyone help me how can I remove trailing white space from files recursively?
[10:04] <Norux> you can also use the --all flag, if you have many URLs
[10:05] <Norux> ooolos: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/102008/how-do-i-trim-leading-and-trailing-whitespace-from-each-line-of-some-output
[10:06] <ooolos> sorry file names
[10:06] <ooolos> i can do it in a single folder
[10:06] <ooolos> just dunno how to do it with find
[10:06] <jink> ooolos: find . -name '*.txt' -print0 | xargs -r0 sed -i -e 's/[[:blank:]]\+$//'  # untested
[10:06] <jink> Or what?
[10:07] <jink> Maybe add -type f
[10:07] <ooolos> k let me check it
[10:07] <jink> I did NOT test this.
[10:07] <ooolos> is ther a way to dry run it
[10:07] <ooolos> i was using rename
[10:07] <jink> What are you trying to do again?
[10:07] <ooolos> sec
[10:07] <martenwang> Gargravarr there is no get-url args
[10:08] <ooolos> this but with find rename -n 's/ *$//' *
[10:08] <ooolos> i tried changing the * to {}
[10:08] <Norux> martenwang: what command did you type
[10:08] <ooolos> sec
[10:09] <jink> ooolos: Ah, renaming, you said remove trailing white space.
[10:09] <Gargravarr> jink: you escaped the +
[10:09] <Gargravarr> that won't work
[10:09] <jink> Gargravarr: Aren't you supposed to, with sed?
[10:09] <ooolos> yeah i want to rename a file by removing white space at the end
[10:10] <Gargravarr> jink: nope, it's a regex
[10:10] <ooolos> lots of file have white space in the ext at the end
[10:10] <ooolos> and i have 100 of folders
[10:10] <Gargravarr> ooolos: in the filename, then :)
[10:10] <ooolos> yeah i said that :)
[10:10] <jink> ooolos: find . -type f -print0 | xargs -r0 rename 's/ *$//'
[10:10] <Gargravarr> 'trim trailing whitespace' is a common thing in text files
[10:10] <user___> Any one around can help me with restoring A server using DD ?
[10:10] <ooolos> k ty
[10:11] <Gargravarr> user___: that's a big task, we need more details. what happened?
[10:11] <user___> Gargravarr:   Following scenario:  16.04  remote server. Ubuntu RAID 1.  used DD to image the array md0,md1,md2 and dd to restore to the same server. Reboot the server and I can not access it via ssh but I can ping it.  Can someone give me some pointers on getting access to the system? I have no GUI or web services installed on it. No VNC only ssh as of now.
[10:11] <jink> Gargravarr: I was right.  It's \+ with sed.
[10:12] <martenwang> Norux i get it ,just git remote -v
[10:12] <Gargravarr> user___: you will need a bootable system to use DD over SSH. does your hosting setup offer you the option to boot from a live USB/ISO?
[10:12] <Gargravarr> jink: well, i'm surprised, i swear i've run into that before
[10:12] <jink> Gargravarr: You probably use -E or -r.
[10:12] <ooolos> @jink ty that appears to work
[10:12] <jink> ooolos: np.
[10:13] <Gargravarr> jink: ah, that'd explain it, i almost always use extended-regex
[10:13] <Guest51305> hi
[10:13] <Norux> martenwang: wow, learned something new, thanks
[10:13] <Norux> Guest51305: hi :)
[10:13] <user___> Gargravarr: Yes. I am booted in a live Debian 8 on the server itself.
[10:14] <Gargravarr> user___: okay. i've had to do this many times so i'll send you some instructions via DM
[10:14] <user___> Gargravarr:  ok thanks.
[10:14] <martenwang> Norux yes,thanks
[10:15] <jink> ooolos: find finds the files -print0 prints the file names with NUL terminators, xargs -0 picks up the file names with NUL terminators and feeds them to rename.  You don't have to supply the file name argument there, because xargs does that.
[10:15] <ooolos> ah cool
[10:15] <ooolos> xargs always confused me a little i always try stuff with exec
[10:17] <jink> ooolos: Overly simplified, xargs just does "command file file file file"
[10:18] <ooolos22> lol sorry i lost my window
[10:20] <ooolos22> i jsut want to say ty to the guy who helpmed me
[10:20] <ooolos22> helped me
[10:20] <martenwang> like find ./ -name '*a.ss' |xargs -I {} mv {} ${}.aa ,how i use the {} like a aviable?
[10:24] <boba> Gargravarr: I am not sure if "git archive --format zip --output /full/path/to/zipfile.zip master " will do the same as "git clone ..." and then "rm -rf .git*"?
[10:25] <ooolos> werid now my windows ha come back i could not focus it before :P
[10:29] <Norux> boba: `rm -rf .git*` will only remove the files associated with git, not pack a zip archive.
[10:33] <rypervenche> No need to use xargs when there is find's -exec
[10:35] <boba> Norux: yes. I will make the zip archive afterwards manually. My point was if it is equally safe to just make rm -rf .git* to disable access to the git repository by the person who will receive the archive.
[10:36] <Norux> boba: Git doesn't touch the other files, so there will be no information about the git repo afterwards.
[10:37] <Norux> if the repo is private, one would need an authorized account anyways, but that's another thing.
[10:38] <MrM1st> Hi all
[10:38] <Norux> hi
[10:39] <boba> Norux: what do you mean by doesn't touch the other files? Do you mean that if I do rm -rf .git* then there are no any other git-related files and hence one cannot issue any git commands such as git status, git pull, etc.?
[10:40] <Norux> correct. one would have to do `git init`, `git clone` or something similar first.
[10:41] <boba> Norux: and "git init" or "git clone" in the folder that initially contained the .git* files is only possible if one has authorized account?
[10:43] <Norux> boba: no, but if they run those commands their folder won't be associated with your repository
[10:46] <boba> Norux: I see. Thanks. You mean they won't be able to pull the removed files or retrieve the initial version of the files (before modification)?
[10:47] <pepermuntjes> the ubuntu software center only installs snap packages?
[10:51] <lapaga> pepermuntjes, you can do snap list to see what snaps are installed
[10:51] <vlt> Hello. I unmounted a USB drive by clicking on the "eject/unmount" icon in the file manager. Now the whole device isn't visible anymore by the kernel. How can I trigger a re-read of the currently plugged in devices without having to un- and replug it?
[10:53] <satoshi_nakam0t0> hey
[10:53] <satoshi_nakam0t0> anyone else prefer windows
[10:54] <vlt> satoshi_nakam0t0: Maybe.
[10:54] <JimBuntu> Please satoshi_nakam0t0 , no polls.
[10:54] <satoshi_nakam0t0> heard windows 10 was faster than ubuntu
[10:55] <JimBuntu> !ask | satoshi_nakam0t0
[10:57] <tzafrir> I'm not sure where this should be reported, if at all.
[10:58] <tzafrir> I needed to test something with an old Yakkety (16.10) system. So I used an old installation and s/us\.archive/old-releases/ .
[10:59] <tzafrir> This worked OK for most packages I needed, but at least some packages were missing. Specifically,
[10:59] <tzafrir> E: Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/z/zlib/zlib1g_1.2.8.dfsg-2ubuntu5.1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found
[11:03] <JimBuntu> tzafrir, 16.10 is nearly 1 whole year EOL. I don't think you need to report it anywhere, since it's EOL.
[11:05] <tzafrir> JimBuntu, sure. I use it for historical uses. History is sometimes useful.
[11:05] <MrM1st> I've been using different versions of Ubuntu for many years, and found the Wayland-jump in 17.10 to be really refreshing. I find that we're back to X11 in 18.04. Is the reasoning behind this gathered somewhere?
[11:06] <JimBuntu> tzafrir, Sure, history is useful. Doesn't really matter when talking about an "old" non-LTS release that is hundreds of days EOL though.
[11:06] <tzafrir> JimBuntu, but isn't old-releases.u.c itself maintained (at the basic level)?
[11:07] <JimBuntu> tzafrir, the packages are maintained, but not guaranteed that any specific file will continue to be available indefinitely.
[11:08] <tzafrir> I don't expect it not to be buggy. Heck, I won't put such a system on the Internet. But it would be nice to be able to install packages. And zlib is one basic package in the dependency tree.
[11:08] <guiverc> MrM1st, the X/Wayland 17.10/18.04 has been written about on many occasions, desktop weekly (will cooke), community hub etc...  I'd suggest looking up Will Cooke's writings on the topic for 'reasoning'
[11:08] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:08] <JimBuntu> g'morn BluesKaj
[11:08] <BluesKaj> 'Morning JimBuntu
[11:09] <JimBuntu> tzafrir, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/z/zlib/zlib1g_1.2.8.dfsg-2ubuntu5_amd64.deb  perhaps this will satisfy your requirements.
[11:09] <tzafrir> Yes, this is what I used eventually.
[11:10] <tzafrir> It's not like zlib changes its interface too often.
[11:12] <guiverc> MrM1st, https://community.ubuntu.com/t/xorg-will-be-the-default-in-18-04-lts/3623  is one reference
[11:16] <MrM1st> guiverc: Thanks a lot
[11:17] <MrM1st> On another topic completely. Snaps and security... Any good articles around on that?
[11:19] <user___> Gargravarr: PM?
[11:20] <guiverc> MrM1st, #ubuntu-discuss may be more appropriate for these questions (as not Support related), yes I've read some but wouldn't be able to find or suggest any. You may look in the community-hub for recent stuff, but many weren't there (as its not very old)
[11:22] <guiverc> next place to search would be 'insights' (ubuntu insights), but I still don't think that would catch all..  and can't think of any that stand out (but i've less interest in them)
[11:25] <lapaga> MrM1st, https://www.infoworld.com/article/3060246/security/ubuntu-snap-doesnt-have-the-security-issue-x11-does.html
[11:26] <MrM1st> lapaga: I'm aware of that one :) I thinks that goes for any container being run on a X11 system
[11:26] <Gargravarr> a support question - what's the current (Xenial, Bionic) method to set the default background on first login? my company has rolled out some nice backgrounds and i want to incorporate them into my standard install script
[11:41] <pax_rhos> hello. using mysql workbench on xubuntu to connect to Percona, from_base64() returns 'BLOB' instead of text string decoded from base64, how to fix that?
[11:43] <Gargravarr> pax_rhos: select convert(from_base64(), char(255) character set utf8)
[11:46] <pax_rhos> Gargravarr: thanks!
[11:46] <Gargravarr> worth noting that base64 is the standard way of representing binary data and shouldn't be used for storing strings, it just adds complexity
[11:51] <pax_rhos> Gargravarr: that's the easiest way to escape charset problems
[11:54] <Gargravarr> good point
[11:55] <Gargravarr> if only people would just use UTF-8 everywhere :)
[11:55] <Gargravarr> you should now have the correct ARRAY entries in the mdadm.conf file (the UUIDs should be different)
[11:55] <Gargravarr> gah
[12:28] <KatlaX> Greetings
[12:31] <ToBeHello> exit
[12:40] <Schmendrick> Does anybody here know if this page (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Images) is still up-to-date with respect to how the cloud images are built? It was last updated in 2014.
[12:43] <leftyfb> Schmendrick: I doubt that's up to date. You might try asking in #ubuntu-server
[12:43] <Schmendrick> Thanks @leftyfb
[12:48] <user___> Thanks Gargravarr  my problem is solved!   I appreciate your help!
[12:57] <tang_> Hello?
[12:58] <tang_> EveryOne Here?
[12:59] <Norux> yes
[13:00] <Gargravarr> !ask | tang_
[13:01] <Gargravarr> (hope i'm not overstepping my authority by invoking that :) )
[13:02] <Norux> Gargravarr: :D thought about it myself, but didn't have the guts to do so haha
[13:03] <Norux> I'm gonna go now, bye
[13:03]  * Norux waves
[13:05]  * arun007 waves
[13:10]  * pax_rhos tsunami
[13:15] <feguitok5> hy
[13:15] <feguitok5> bom dia algum br aqui
[13:20] <studente> HY
[13:20] <studente_> ESKEREEEE
[13:57] <guest_> Hi
[14:02] <evelin> hello
[14:03] <evelin> I have 2 questions about Linux Mint
[14:03] <evelin> if someone can help me
[14:03] <Gargravarr> !ask | evelin
[14:04] <evelin> hahaha
[14:04] <evelin> ok, thanks
[14:05] <nacc> err, no.
[14:05] <nacc> !mint | evelin
[14:05] <nacc> mint is not supported here, evelin
[14:05] <evelin> ok, thank you
[14:08] <Gargravarr> nacc: my bad :)
[14:08] <nacc> Gargravarr: :)
[14:08] <james1138> Hello from Indiana. Tech question - how does a person "write" a printer driver? I have a old Lexmark Multifunction x9575 and wonder if possible to "reverse-engineer" its Windows driver?
[14:09] <pragmaticenigma> james1138: that would be a question for another channel
[14:09] <leo__> hello
[14:09] <james1138> Which channel please?
[14:09] <pragmaticenigma> !alis | james1138
[14:11] <Gargravarr> be warned james1138, printer drivers are pretty involved C/C++ :)
[14:11] <pragmaticenigma> james1138: ##linux ##programming are also good places to start
[14:11] <james1138> Less tech question then... any suggestions on which fonts still look best readable with anti-alias turned off?
[14:11] <pragmaticenigma> james1138: That also is not a question for this channel, please try #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:12] <james1138> ok thanks
[14:12] <aleray> Hi, could anyone help me to solve this issue? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49746194/when-i-install-a-software-in-my-ubuntu16-04-i-got-the-following-messages
[14:12] <aleray> I have a similar problem
[14:12] <aleray> apt gets blocked by firefox apparently
[14:12] <pragmaticenigma> aleray: Did you attempt the suggested fix in that thread?
[14:13] <aleray> pragmaticenigma, I tried various things in the thread. let me try again to do it all
[14:14] <Gargravarr> seems like the fix leads to a loop. Firefox has gotten itself into a knot, can't be installed, but removing it also causes the error
[14:14] <Gargravarr> aleray: if you can't remove Firefox using APT, you could try 'dpkg -r firefox' instead
[14:14] <aleray> pragmaticenigma, exact same issue as that person
[14:14] <aleray> Gargravarr, thanks, let me try
[14:15] <pragmaticenigma> Gargravarr: What I'm attempting to show is that it is likely the random post found might be similar, but unlikely anything to do with the same thing
[14:15] <pragmaticenigma> aleray: Do you have any extra PPAs enabled?
[14:15] <aleray> pragmaticenigma, an other error: package is in a very bad inconsistent stqte...
[14:15] <aleray> pragmaticenigma, I check
[14:16] <Gargravarr> pragmaticenigma: indeed, and why i didn't highlight anybody for that comment. first thing i noticed was that the SO question was unresolved
[14:18] <aleray> pragmaticenigma, Gargravarr here is my apt/source.list http://dpaste.com/2F1JMHQ
[14:18] <Gargravarr> aleray: that's all normal, good. do you have anything under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[14:19] <aleray> Gargravarr, no
[14:19] <dbugger> Hello everyone
[14:19] <dbugger> Could someone please take a look at this issue? It is kinda lengthy so I posted there: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1026439/cant-ping-a-virtualbox-created-using-nat
[14:19] <pragmaticenigma> aleray: try running "sudo apt-get clean all && sudo apt-get autoclean" and try again
[14:20] <pokmo> hi
[14:20] <aleray> pragmaticenigma, ok. still same issue
[14:20] <pragmaticenigma> dbugger: as you were told before, you need to find a Virtual Box support channel. We cannot help you.
[14:21] <Gargravarr> dbugger: if you can't ping a VM from the host, this is because of NAT, it's working as designed
[14:21] <dbugger> 3 hours ago it was working
[14:21] <dbugger> and suddenly it stopped
[14:22] <Gargravarr> best to go ask for help in a VirtualBox channel as pragmaticenigma said then - as best i know, it's not /supposed/ to work :)
[14:22] <Gargravarr> aleray: did 'dpkg -r firefox' do anything?
[14:23] <renfrew> Morning all
[14:23] <aleray> Gargravarr, it give the same error: "package is in very bad inconsistent state; you should reinstall it before attempting removal..."
[14:26] <Gargravarr> aleray: dpkg has a '--force-remove-reinstreq' option which may get around this
[14:27] <Gargravarr> it warns that it may leave stray files, but if you're going to reinstall Firefox, that should be okay (if anyone wants to correct me on this, please do)
[14:27] <aleray> Gargravarr, safe? Should I give a try?
[14:28] <aleray> Gargravarr, I don't seem to have this option in my dpkg version
[14:29] <Gargravarr> really? my machine is on Xenial, can't imagine it would be removed by Artful
[14:30] <aleray> Gargravarr, hummm. Seems like "sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox" worked
[14:31] <aleray> got it from there: https://askubuntu.com/questions/409308/package-is-in-a-very-bad-inconsistent-state-you-should-reinstall-it-before-at
[14:31] <pragmaticenigma> !yay
[14:31] <Gargravarr> aleray: that's a relief :) i just checked dpkg on Bionic and it does have the flag. glad to hear you got it working, often when packages get into a nasty state you wind up reverting to dpkg
[14:32] <transhuman> hi on my centos kvm guest (ubuntu 17.10 ) it seems to want to try to start the vmware ps/2 mouse I have no open-vm-tools installed any idea what could be causing this?
[14:33] <Gargravarr> transhuman: sounds more like a KVM issue, that would be the hardware KVM is exposing to the guest. consider changing the config to use a different virtual mouse
[14:34]  * DwiHack19 test
[14:34]  * DwiHack19 apakah ada orang
[14:34] <aleray> Gargravarr, pragmaticenigma thanks for your help
[14:47] <tda> how do i install moinmoin on ubuntu 1604? after going through the reademe.debian.gz it doesn't work. I am still getting the default apache page, even after disabling 000-default
[14:48] <tda> trying to go to server/MyWiki or server/MyWiki/LanguageSetup gives a 404
[14:50] <migmolrod> what's in your /etc/apache/sites-available/ folder?
[14:50] <migmolrod> i mean /etc/apache2/sites-available/
[14:51] <tda> 000-default.conf  default-ssl.conf  mywiki.conf
[14:52] <boba> Hi, if I delete a file by shift delete in a folder versioned by git, would git detect that and I could commit this as a change or git revert the change if necessary?
[14:52] <JoeD> @boba Git can revert the change
[14:52] <nacc> boba: presuming the file was already tracked?
[14:53] <migmolrod> @tda and what's in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[14:53] <boba> JoeD: nacc thanks. Yes, I meant already tracked files.
[14:53] <tda> migmolrod: just mywiki.conf
[14:54] <nacc> boba: yeah, git doesn't care about your GUI/cli usage (as in what you used)
[14:54] <JoeD> Does someone know what are the criterias to Ubuntu pick a linux kernel version and put in a LTS point release?
[14:54] <pragmaticenigma> transhuman: have you tried checking out /join #kvm ?
[14:55] <migmolrod> @tda then check out that mywiki.conf to see if everything is ok, if servername is ok, if paths are correct and so
[14:55] <nacc> JoeD: #ubuntu-kernel
[14:55] <nacc> JoeD: but also, what's current when the kernel freeze is approaching, etc
[14:55] <JoeD> nacc: lame
[14:55] <boba> nacc: I was wondering if there is a git delete analogous to svn delete or if I can simply delete the file by shift delete and git would recognize that.
[14:56] <nacc> boba: `git rm`
[14:56] <nacc> JoeD: what is lame? you are asking something the kernel developers would need to answer
[14:58] <JoeD> nacc: it is lame if the answer is just that simple
[14:58] <transhuman> pragmaticenigma, I will thanks for the tip
[14:58] <boba> nacc: so just removing the file manually ("rm file" or shift delete on the file) won't work?
[14:58] <JoeD> boba: it will work too
[14:58] <migmolrod> @tda and remember to at least do systemctl reload apache2 if you make changes
[14:58] <boba> Thanks :)
[14:58] <nacc> JoeD: i mean, if you want to know how they decide, you'd need to ask them :)
[14:58] <nacc> boba: well, you need to commit the change, of course
[14:59] <boba> nacc: but I can also revert such a change as well, I mean if I remove a file manually and ask git to revert that change it will work?
[15:00] <tgm4883> boba: well yes, since it could restore from a previous commit
[15:00] <pragmaticenigma> boba: if your changes haven't been comitted, the file will be restored with the next pull from git
[15:01] <tgm4883> even if it had been committed, you can always go back
[15:01] <migmolrod> guys, i have a logitech g710+ keyboard. i found its linux drivers from the community and i could install it perfectly
[15:01] <boba> thank you all. :)
[15:02] <pragmaticenigma> migmolrod: Do you have a question? It's not very clear from what you just said.
[15:02] <migmolrod> but everytime linux-headers and linux-image updates, i lose the driver. how can i make it persistant? blocking kernel updates?
[15:03] <migmolrod> @pragmaticenigma yep, it was just quite a bit long XD
[15:03] <pragmaticenigma> migmolrod: it's best to post as much on one line, it reduces confusion and makes it easier to read in the long run
[15:04] <nacc> boba: yes, this is generic git stuff
[15:04] <boba> nacc: thx
[15:04]  * DwiHack19 test
[15:05]  * DwiHack19 Hello
[15:05] <leftyfb> !ask | DwiHack19
[15:05] <pragmaticenigma> migmolrod: The problem you're having is because the kernel is not aware of the extra driver. Also, the driver may need to be recompiled against the new kernel with each kernel update. I think what you need is some sort of registration with the kernel config so it knows to automatically retain the driver
[15:06]  * DwiHack19 newbie
[15:06] <leftyfb> DwiHack19: do you need help with something?
[15:06] <pragmaticenigma> DwiHack19: to start, please stop using the /me with each message
[15:07] <DwiHack19> gimna
[15:08] <migmolrod> @pragmaticenigma so can i hook into some kind of ON_KERNEL_UPDATE event inside ubuntu and do the recompile + install for that driver? or how can i make kernel aware of the new driver?
[15:08] <pragmaticenigma> DwiHack19: Welcome to the Ubuntu Support Channel. Do you have an Ubuntu related support question? If so please ask it, all on one line. If you would like to chat openly about other topics, please /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:09] <pragmaticenigma> migmolrod: I'm not certain, trying to google for it now
[15:09] <nacc> migmolrod: dkms ?
[15:09] <migmolrod> @nacc looks like the solution, thanks. i'll let duckduck go do the rest of the job for me XD
[15:10] <nacc> migmolrod: yw :)
[15:10] <nacc> migmolrod: it's almost verbatim what you asked for
[15:10] <pragmaticenigma> that's what I was thinking of too... couldn't remember the acronym
[15:15] <sere_> what is the default jdk version in 18.04 curren
[15:15] <sere_> t
[15:15] <migmolrod> i actually found in github a fork of those drivers with a branch called "fix-dkms" XD looks like i will use it
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> !bionic | sere_
[15:15] <migmolrod> thanks for help guys
[15:16] <furaidi> Hi there! What news about Ubuntu Touch?
[15:17] <pragmaticenigma> furaidi: This is a support channel, we do not have news on development updates
[15:18] <furaidi> But is it still under develop?
[15:18] <pragmaticenigma> furaidi: not by canonical
[15:18] <furaidi> Ok
[15:19] <furaidi> Where can find more info?
[15:19] <pragmaticenigma> furaidi: Google
[15:19] <Gargravarr> Touch seems to be obsolete anyway, Bionic incorporates support for Surface-like tablets out of the box
[15:20] <furaidi> Is it have support ARM MTK85** processors?
[15:20] <pragmaticenigma> Ubuntu Touch was part of the Unity development. Unity along with Ubuntu Touch were abandonded by the Ubuntu/Canonical development teams.
[15:21] <pragmaticenigma> furaidi: ARM support will continue
[15:21] <furaidi> Do they have their channel?
[15:21] <krytarik> furaidi: #ubports
[15:22] <furaidi> Thx
[15:23] <DwiHack19> welcome
[15:23] <leftyfb> DwiHack19: do you need help with something?
[15:24] <DwiHack19> cara bls ke orang gimna ya
[15:25] <pragmaticenigma> !en | DwiHack19
[15:25] <DwiHack19> oh sorry
[15:26] <leftyfb> !id | DwiHack19
[15:26] <DwiHack19> sorry all
[15:26] <DwiHack19> thanks
[15:27] <DwiHack19> see you
[15:32] <Cocodude> Hello! What am I doing wrong? apt-get says "Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'" but I can telnet to security.ubuntu.com just fine on port 80.
[15:32] <pragmaticenigma> Cocodude: The mirror'd site might be in the process of updating packages. Try again in a few hours
[15:33] <Gargravarr> 'resolving' indicates DNS though?
[15:33] <pragmaticenigma> not always
[15:34] <Cocodude> Just added the entries to /etc/hosts and it worked just fine
[15:34] <Cocodude> So it is something weird regarding resolving, but why telnet works I don't know
[15:34] <leftyfb> Cocodude: try changing the dns your router uses to <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:34] <Gargravarr> indeed, i would point the finger at DNS. graphical/headless, DHCP?
[15:35] <Cocodude> Already pointed at <IP_ADDRESS>.
[15:35] <Cocodude> Headless, staticly configured
[15:35] <Gargravarr> hmm, maybe <IP_ADDRESS>, being fairly new, is being overloaded?
[15:35] <Cocodude> 16.04. Bodged with /etc/hosts so I'll run a dist-upgrade and see if it magically fixes itself. Just weird as I've never seen this before.
[15:35] <Stokaz> hey bros
[15:36] <Stokaz> sup
[15:36] <hyperreal> Hello
[15:36] <Cocodude> Gargravarr: Tried with <IP_ADDRESS> too, and you'd think telnet would cache it for at least a few minutes.
[15:36] <Stokaz> :)
[15:37] <pragmaticenigma> Cocodude: depends on the TTL of the DNS entry
[15:37] <Gargravarr> Cocodude: not from my experience, i've seen many system utilities resolve successfully only for another to then make a new DNS request immediately after, as if the cache is only application-specific
[15:37] <BaggaTea> Is it safe to install 18.04 yet?
[15:37] <Gargravarr> BaggaTea: not officially released until 26th
[15:37] <nacc> BaggaTea: define safe, but also #ubuntu+1
[15:37] <BaggaTea> :+1: cheers guys :)
[15:37] <Cocodude> Indeed. OK, no probs, just it's good to see if you had any obvious thoughts I was missing.
[15:38] <Stokaz> I need help from american people
[15:38] <nacc> Stokaz: what is your ubuntu support question?
[15:42] <ice9> is MAAS something like Ansible or Puppet?
[15:42] <sere_> sudp
[15:43] <Gargravarr> ice9: apparently so
[15:43] <nacc> ice9: please don't crosspost
[15:43] <nacc> ice9: there is also a MAAS channel, iirc
[15:45] <sere_> how can i get the output of some commands errors netbeans or eclipse
[15:45] <leftyfb> ice9: Gargravarr: not really. MAAS can be used with juju to achieve a similar goal though
[15:46] <sudormrf> anyone ever seen "foo.sh":2: bad minute errors in crontab file, can't install. when trying to run a script from cron? the only entry in the crontab is "0 11 * * 1,2,4 /root/scripts/foo.sh" and the script is executable and owned by root
[15:46] <pragmaticenigma> sudormrf: does the bash script have a #!/bin/bash at the top?
[15:47] <sudormrf> yessir
[15:49] <pragmaticenigma> sudormrf: make sure there aren't blank lines in the crontab setup file
[15:49] <nacc> sudormrf: read the manpage again
[15:49] <nacc> sudormrf: "ranges or lists of names are not allowed" for 'month' or 'day of week'
[15:49] <nacc> oh maybe that only applies to 'day of week' by name?
[15:50] <Gargravarr> nacc: i swear i've done 1-5 for dow before
[15:50] <gutsytechster> whois gutsytechster
[15:50] <nacc> sudormrf: simples method, reduce your crontab to simpler form first
[15:50] <Gargravarr> 'by name' would make sense
[15:50] <Guest29474> wie kann man den com port aktivieren
[15:50] <sudormrf> nacc, just did and same error
[15:50] <nacc> sudormrf: to narrow down the source, i mean
[15:50] <sudormrf> it's not even hitting the DOW so that isn't the issue ATM
[15:50] <Gargravarr> !de | Guest29474
[15:50] <sudormrf> and numbered DOW is allowed
[15:51] <sudormrf> pragmaticenigma, I'm looking for errant spaces/new line characters now
[15:51] <nacc> sudormrf: what is reporting that error?
[15:51] <Guest29474> oky
[15:51] <nacc> sudormrf: what you pasted looks like cron itself?
[15:51] <sudormrf> that is the exact entry in the crontab, yes
[15:51] <sudormrf> crontab foo.sh reports that error
[15:51] <nacc> sudormrf: you pasted an error message
[15:51] <sudormrf> and the script didn't run yesterday
[15:51] <sudormrf> check again
[15:51] <nacc> sudormrf: ... what? you don't run a crontab like that
[15:52] <sudormrf> file didn't run
[15:52] <sudormrf> so there is an error
[15:52] <Gargravarr> ...yes, that would be the problem ;) crontab -e
[15:52] <sudormrf> Gargravarr, already did that
[15:52] <sudormrf> there is only one entry in there
[15:52] <sudormrf> the entry listed above
[15:52] <nacc> sudormrf: `crontabe <file>` is not what you want
[15:53] <sudormrf> cat -v on the crontab file in /var/spool/... doesn't show me any new lines
[15:53] <sudormrf> nacc, right, but again, the script didn't run yesterday
[15:53] <nacc> sudormrf: ok, but that's not the same as the error you just said
[15:53] <nacc> sudormrf: unless you see that error in syslog?
[15:53] <sudormrf> let me check
[15:54] <sudormrf> just modified crontab to run every minute and am doing a watch of 'tail /var/log/syslog' right now
[15:55] <nacc> sudormrf: crontab edit, and you didn't get any error?
[15:56] <sudormrf> correct
[15:56] <sudormrf> no error
[15:56] <kumar> hello
[15:56] <sudormrf> it appears that the script is running but it's not writing the log
[15:56] <sudormrf> hmmmm
[15:57] <kumar> k bhnxa thaha nai xaina
[15:57] <nacc> sudormrf: right, that's why i was trying to ignore what you pasted before, which was presumably a typo :)
[15:58] <sudormrf> I think I've tracked it down
[15:58] <sudormrf> :D
[15:59] <DwiHack19> Test
[15:59] <DwiHack19> Welcome back
[15:59] <sudormrf> TEST NOT RECEIVED. FAIL! FAIL! FAIL!
[15:59] <sudormrf> ABORT! ABORT ABORT!
[16:00] <Gargravarr> !ask | DwiHack19
[16:00] <DwiHack19> help
[16:01] <Gargravarr> DwiHack19: please ask your Ubuntu support question and we will try to help you
[16:02] <necrophcodr> Hey! I've got a game that only plays audio when it's active. how do i change the volume using pulseaudio for the application, when tabbing away means the audio stops playing?
[16:03] <mane> hey guys, just a quick question: will 18.04 be avaible on rpi3?
[16:04] <manenomomn> hey guys, just a quick question: will 18.04 be avaible on rpi3?
[16:04] <necrophcodr> manenomomn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi
[16:05] <necrophcodr> it appears so!
[16:05] <manenomomn> kthxbye!
[16:17] <sky887> There are no OPs (overpowered ones) in off topic and discuss channels
[16:17] <Gargravarr> sky887: wrong channel?
[16:17] <nacc> sky887: what is your point? how is that an ubuntu support topic?
[16:18] <sky887> Well. Is it dangerous?
[16:19] <nacc> sky887: no. and so you're still offtopic.
[16:20] <sky887> nacc ok. Sorry
[16:28] <nerdcoreBR> Hi there, i need home help please!  i have 3 monitors on may desktop, on version 17.10, all was okay, than apear a messagem to upgrade... so, i did this and my pc restarted.. so quem it started, only 2 monitors shows desktop and monitor number 3 are in looping on ubunto loading...
[16:29] <antonm> nerdcoreBR, Which version did you upgrade to?
[16:30] <nano> anyone knows a great tool for mapping network? "gui"
[16:30] <kostkon> nerdcoreBR, update or upgrade?
[16:30] <leftyfb> antonm: he just ran regular updates. 18.04 doesn't ask to upgrade to it yet
[16:30] <nerdcoreBR> ih thing thats is the same antonm
[16:30] <pragmaticenigma> nano: This isn't the right channel for that type of question. Please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:30] <nerdcoreBR> whas a update aboult 30mb i think
[16:30] <nano> Ok sorry.
[16:31] <nerdcoreBR> was a little upgrade...
[16:31] <nerdcoreBR> and a bib problem to me =(
[16:31] <nerdcoreBR> big*
[16:31] <Gargravarr> nerdcoreBR: you'll have logs in /var/log/apt/history.log that will tell you exactly which packages were installed
[16:31] <nerdcoreBR> update
[16:31] <nerdcoreBR> i'm sory
[16:32] <nerdcoreBR> kostkon:
[16:32] <Gargravarr> subtle difference between 'update' and 'upgrade', trips lots of people up
[16:32] <kostkon> nerdcoreBR, you are forgiven
[16:32] <tgm4883> nerdcoreBR: don't use enter as punctuation
[16:34] <nerdcoreBR> tgm4883: ok! my last time in irc chat was about 15 yeas ago! sorry about that
[16:34] <kraiskil> how do I figure out what my ethernet device is? 'ifconfig' or 'ls /sys/class/net/' show only the WLAN and lo devices.
[16:34] <Gargravarr> kraiskil: try 'ifconfig -a'
[16:34] <tda> ip a
[16:34] <kraiskil> nope
[16:34] <nerdcoreBR> Gargravarr: was a UPDATE
[16:35] <kraiskil> oops. *facepalm*
[16:35] <Gargravarr> lemme guess
[16:35] <Gargravarr> USB? not plugged in? ;)
[16:35] <kraiskil> This (modern laptop) lacks an ethernet :|
[16:35] <Gargravarr> or that
[16:35] <leftyfb> most modern laptops do lack ethernet
[16:35] <kraiskil> thought it felt too good to be true :D
[16:36] <tda> if the device is down, ifconfig and ip wont show it, so how do you get its name? if its not something obvious like eth0 or wlan0
[16:36] <genii> Use -a switch to see inactive devices
[16:36] <Gargravarr> i have pretty much the only laptop in the company with an RJ45 jack onboard, everyone else has laptops so thin you can shave with them
[16:36] <leftyfb> tda: ifconfig -a will show a downed interface
[16:37] <leftyfb> tda: as will /sys/class/net/*
[16:37] <Gargravarr> -a is easily remembered as --all
[16:38] <enissay> I want to "ls -l" all the files created during the last hour... I found "find . -mmin -60" but then I couldn't link the two (tried | in a lame attempt x_x)
[16:39] <nerdcoreBR> nobory can help-me?
[16:39] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | nerdcoreBR
[16:39] <tda> enissay: find returns the list of files. are you expecting it to do something else?
[16:39] <Gargravarr> nerdcoreBR: i made the suggestion to check the packages that were updated from the log
[16:40] <enissay> tda: No, I just need to "to ls -l all the files created during the last hour"
[16:40] <pragmaticenigma> enissay: you can use the -exec argument to execute a second command on each file found with find. see "man find" for more information
[16:40] <Gargravarr> enissay: if you want to see the exact 'ls -l' output, you can also do 'ls -l -t' to sort (reverse) by time
[16:40] <n4n0`> nerdcoreBR, check for issues related to the upgrade; also try rephrasing question more clearly and concise. Hard to understand.
[16:41] <tda> ok. like pragmaticenigma says, you need -exec
[16:41] <transhuman> so have the same question posted in #kvm, in recovery mode (with multiple kernels) and after an update initramfs I am able to start xfce desktop, unfortunately in normal mode I can not start it I get a blinking screen with garbage in an endless loop. Here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QcwnjsMgdw/ (again its a kvm guest centos 7.2 host / ubuntu 17.10 guest)
[16:41] <enissay> Gargravarr: yes, but I need to filter on time, that dir contains thousands of files
[16:41] <enissay> oki
[16:41] <tda> so something like find . -mmin -60 -exec ls -l {} \;
[16:42] <n4n0`> transhuman, garbage or a log file describing the event?
[16:43] <n4n0`> transhuman, config file looks okay syntax wise.
[16:43] <nerdcoreBR> im sorry, im confuse about update and upgrade.... let-me try to explain, what ubunts starts this monday, apear a dialog, in this dialog show 'you need to restart your ubuntu to instal updates' then, whes i push the buton restart puf, my monitor 3 dead.. you get it?
[16:43] <transhuman> I can post the log ..hold on and thanks n4n0`
[16:43] <antonm> nerdcoreBR, That was just updates, not an upgrade
[16:44] <n4n0`> Please do transhuman np
[16:44] <antonm> What packages were updated?
[16:44] <enissay> tda: hmmm, it lists all files, not only the recent ones !
[16:44] <Guest85940> edaf
[16:44] <Guest85940> what is this?
[16:45] <n4n0`> Guest85940: ?
[16:45] <tda> enissay: yeah, i don't know the exact command
[16:45] <nerdcoreBR> antonm: it was automatic update, i dont know with packages was
[16:45] <Guest85940> hex chat? looks like ym
[16:46] <Guest85940> are people here not robots?
[16:46] <Guest85940> bot*
[16:46] <n4n0`> beep boop bop.
[16:46] <nacc> Guest85940: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:47] <n4n0`> Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat unless you have a question Guest85940
[16:47] <antonm> Guest85940, beep boop boop beep boop boop bop
[16:47] <Guest85940> no actually
[16:47] <tda> enissay: try with -type f. i think when ls is run on the directories, it duplicates
[16:47] <Guest85940> next thusrday ubuntu 18.04 will be release
[16:48] <tda> THIS thursday
[16:48] <Guest85940> aah yeah
[16:48] <n4n0`> so excite
[16:49] <n4n0`> even though most all my boxes run 16.04 LTS
[16:49] <n4n0`> but I digress
[16:49] <enissay> tda: yessssss, thks buddy <3
[16:49] <tda> enissay: you're welcome
[16:49] <enissay> tda: pragmaticenigma: Gargravarr: Thank you all <3
[16:49] <nerdcoreBR> we will restart.. i will back soon! beep boop
[16:49] <Guest85940> btw.. how to install driver in ubuntu?
[16:50] <tda> my main one is still using 14.04. i've been putting off the upgrade because i want to reinstall anyway
[16:50] <transhuman> n4n0`, here is the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K3YpJsG2sM and thanks in advance
[16:50] <n4n0`> tda: 14.04 also a nice flavor :)
[16:50] <Guest85940> I tried to update driver and hardware but web cam driver still not function
[16:50] <n4n0`> transhuman: ty let me review.
[16:51] <Gargravarr> Guest85940: USB webcams almost always work without drivers, what kind of webcam is it?
[16:51] <Guest85940> toshiba
[16:52] <Guest85940> i see in cheese but cam driver not found
[16:52] <transhuman> n4n0`, thanks for the help
[16:53] <n4n0`> transhuman: What specifically is the issue? That log file contains no errors/warnings and terminates successfully. Are you having an issue with xfce terminating immediately or not running at all?
[16:55] <transhuman> n4n0`,  it tries to start in normal mode (from cold boot) and it tries to start xwindows but it blinks and shows garbage (colorful I might add) and gets caught in a loop between black screen and the garbage forever , however in recover mode from boot it runs fine
[16:55] <vlt> Hello. How can I mount an ecryptfs that is not in my current /home?
[16:56] <n4n0`> transhuman: interesting, are you able to provide dmesg and syslog logs?
[16:56] <transhuman> sure
[16:56] <MrF4ck3d> hello im newbie😅
[16:56] <n4n0`> very possible there is an issue with one of your startup configs
[16:57] <n4n0`> transhuman: can you also re-route this question to #xfce just because it is related to such?
[16:57] <tda> vlt: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering_Your_Data_Automatically
[16:58] <transhuman> n4n0`, certainly can thank you n4n0`
[16:58] <n4n0`> transhuman: np
[16:58] <transhuman> by the way the logs are empty but only accessible after a reboot havent tried to ssh into it get them
[16:59] <transhuman> will go to xfce group and thanks
[16:59] <n4n0`> Yeah we will diagnose it there.
[16:59] <vlt> tda: Thanks!
[17:01] <antonm> Will be back later
[17:06] <nerdcoreBR> Hello again.. so... i solve the problem, i just restart and in GRU i choose the oldest version. than! puf... work! tnks for help and i will never will turn off my ubunto again!!!
[17:07] <Gargravarr> nerdcoreBR: that's actually not ideal, new kernels contain security fixes
[17:07] <Gargravarr> sounds like a kernel module has broken during the update
[17:09] <nerdcoreBR> Gargravarr: i know that, but im late in 2 laravel apps, and i need to finish, then, when vesion 18 arrived, i will update, if the promem apear again i will tell for you guys!
[17:11] <nerdcoreBR> at all, tnks again! and have a nice day, or night where ever you are!
[17:41] <Simonious_> https://ghostbin.com/paste/jrkmk halp, path strings with spaces are breaking my loop
[17:43] <Simonious_> oh dang.. I think I got it
[17:43] <ioria> Simonious_, quote $image_dirs
[17:43] <Simonious_> the key: \"\"$image_dir\"\"
[17:45] <jnewt> When I open Network Settings, it has a button at the bottom to Unlock (presumably to be able to edit the network settings)  when I click it nothing happens.
[17:46] <jnewt> how can i see why it doesn't work (or just what to do to fix it would be fine too, I don't really need all the ins & outs, I just want it to work).
[17:49] <ioria> jnewt, are you using NM ?
[17:49] <Gargravarr> jnewt: from a terminal, try 'gksu unity-control-center'. if the password box pops up, then that button should be working
[17:49] <jnewt> ioria: yes
[17:50] <ioria> jnewt, nm-connection-editor    (does it work ?)
[17:50] <jnewt> Gargravarr, box popped up, i put in password, button did not work
[17:51] <jnewt> ioria, yeah, i see my connections, could add / edit or delete if i wanted to
[17:52] <ioria> jnewt, sure . xenial or artful ?
[17:52] <jnewt> xenial
[17:52] <ioria> jnewt, ok, be sure to not using another config in /etc/network/manager
[17:52] <ioria> jnewt, sorry, in  /etc/network/interfaces
[17:53] <jnewt> i just have two lines in that file ioria.   auto lo and iface lo inet loopback
[17:56] <jnewt> ioria: is that ok?
[17:56] <ioria> jnewt, yes it is
[18:01] <help> hey
[18:01] <help> help
[18:01] <help> me
[18:01] <help> now
[18:01] <help> please
[18:01] <nicomachus> !ask | help
[18:01] <Guest75242> help
[18:01] <Guest75242> i need help
[18:01] <nicomachus> wow, big problems today huh?
[18:01] <Guest75242> just ubuntu being dumb
[18:02] <oerheks> solved
[18:03] <MrF4ck3d> hello😁
[18:03] <kostkon> MrF4ck3d, hi
[18:07] <Mishari> Baby baby, what can we do just to get forever !
[18:08] <oerheks> upgrade, Mishari, just upgrade
[18:08] <nomike> HI
[18:09] <nexus6> Hi everybody, this is the second day that it is happening to me. After I turn on my laptop (normally from sleep) after around 30 minutes of use, it freezes and the only solution is to restart it. Yesterday it happened during watching a video, and I thought it's firefox's fault and I installed Opera. But today it happened when I was reading a pdf file. Any ideas?
[18:09] <Mishari> oerheks, by the way, I can't upgrade the platform as it was in the pre versions ?! why ?
[18:09] <trevorj> d
[18:10] <Mishari> I mean, I can't upgrade ubuntu 16 to 17 by the upgrade command.
[18:10] <pragmaticenigma> Mishari: what upgrade command are you using?
[18:11] <Gargravarr> nexus6: impossible to say without logs. can you read through /var/log/syslog, find the timestamps of the time when it crashed and see if anything throws an obvious error?
[18:11] <oerheks> Mishari, depends what command used, it is possible .. https://askubuntu.com/questions/969097/upgrade-from-16-04lts-to-17-10
[18:11] <leftyfb> Mishari: it also helps you specify actual versions. There is no ubuntu 16 or 17.
[18:12] <Mishari> leftyfb, I'm in the 2020 now.
[18:12] <nomike> I'm looking for a way to get rid of the ubuntu dock. It's not possible to disable it in tweak (launchpad #1718850) so I searched for another solution. People recommended to use the "Disable Gnome Dock" extension (a weird Idea to enable an extension to disable another one) but the Extension page on the gnome website only shows me an error and the github page results in a 404. Somebody was quite thorough in making it disappear from the
[18:12] <nomike>  surface.
[18:12] <leftyfb> Mishari: huh?
[18:12] <tda> use kde
[18:13] <pragmaticenigma> nomike: There are dozens of different Desktop Environments. Gnome is just one of them, check out KDE, XFCE, LXDE, Enlightment, etc and find one that suits your needs better
[18:13]  * Mishari throws as kiss to leftyfb
[18:14] <nomike> I also tried the "Ubuntu Dock Settings" extension to configure it at least in a way that fits for me but it only throws errors.
[18:14] <Mishari> a*
[18:14] <leftyfb> Mishari: trolling is off topic here
[18:14] <Mishari> ok I'll troll in facebook.
[18:14] <Mishari> brb.
[18:16] <Gargravarr> i think to clarify: nomike: the Dock is a fundamental part of the default Ubuntu desktop environment, it's not wise to disable it
[18:16] <nomike> pragmaticenigma, I don't want to switch to something else. I used xfce4 in the past but switched to gnome3 some years ago and was very happy with it and I still am. I'm very much used to the workflow and it does exactly what I want.  So are all gnome3 users now
[18:16] <nomike>  screwed?
[18:16] <Gargravarr> ah, better clarified from you
[18:17] <pragmaticenigma> nomike: No, you can install the non-ubuntufied version of gnome desktop
[18:17] <nomike> I just want the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" back which I had in 17.10.
[18:17] <nomike> pragmaticenigma, what's the package name of it then?
[18:17] <oerheks> nomike, you are on 18.04 now??
[18:17] <nexus6> Gargravarr: Thank you, here is the log from moments before the freeze https://pastebin.com/UAZimGkd
[18:17] <nomike> yes.
[18:18] <nomike> oerheks, yes.
[18:18] <pragmaticenigma> nomike: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/10/install-vanilla-gnome-shell-ubuntu-17-10
[18:18] <pragmaticenigma> nomike: sudo apt install gnome-session
[18:18] <nomike> pragmaticenigma, about checking out different desktop environments: xfwm2 was nice *duck* (though technically it's only a window manager)
[18:19] <Gargravarr> nexus6: is that as close to the freeze as the logs go? a lot can happen in a few moments with computers
[18:21] <Gargravarr> otherwise, having had a lot of fun myself with intel-microcode causing system freezes (but long before the user was able to log in), that would be my suspicion
[18:21] <jnewt> for some reason my computer is getting the wrong ip address for another host.  I thought i fixed it earlier, but apparently not.   i have no static route set in the router.   i can ping via name from the router.   i cannot ping from any other hosts.   i thought it was a cache issue, i have no dns-clean command (google suggestion to clear cache), I can ping other hosts by name on the LAN
[18:22] <jnewt> i don't know if the issue is in my computer, the host I can't ping or the router.   how can i narrow this down?
[18:22] <Gargravarr> jnewt: you are generally at the mercy of the .local implementation in the router
[18:23] <nexus6> Gargravarr: Here is the whole log: https://pastebin.com/36QXiCPA , the freeze happens at 11:40
[18:24] <jnewt> Gargravarr, if you mean the appended domain .local , i changed that a long time ago when i got the router.   all hostnames are appended by my new suffix when i ping them, including the one that resolves incorrectly
[18:24] <nexus6> Gargravarr: Could it be related to charging? I installed tlp recently. I had no problem before that. Could it be tlp?
[18:24] <nomike> pragmaticenigma, thx. This sounds promissing. I will play around with it, which means I have to log off and such.
[18:24] <nomike> Thanks for your help everyone!\
[18:25] <Gargravarr> nexus6: figures. the first log entry at 11:40 is syslog starting up after (what i presume is) the hard reboot. no logs of the freeze
[18:25] <pragmaticenigma> small note nomike... 18.04 support is technically in #ubuntu+1 until the 26th
[18:26] <nexus6> Gargravarr: Yes, the system freezes so bad, even sysrq does not work.
[18:26] <nomike> ah...OK. thx
[18:26] <jnewt> the host resolves to an ip, it's just the wrong one
[18:26] <Gargravarr> nexus6: okay, based purely on random freezes causing lockups with no logs, try 'sudo apt-get remove intel-microcode' as a diagnostic step
[18:27] <nomike> pragmaticenigma, ahhh...silly me. I've not switched to 18.04 yet and I'm still on 17.10. Got this mixed up. I installed 18.04 on another laptop to try it out but I'm not actively using it.
[18:28] <Gargravarr> Spectre/Meltdown fixes have been known to cause severe lockups in certain combinations
[18:28] <pragmaticenigma> nomike: no worries :-)
[18:28] <nexus6> Gargravarr: I remember seeing an error on the startup that "intel microcode" should be updated. I did update it weeks ago and the message went away. Is it safe to remove it?
[18:28] <Gargravarr> it's safe in that it won't break anything, yes
[18:29] <gogeta> Gargravarr, dont forget the huge memery leak in 18.04 that has not been fixed
[18:29] <jnewt> dig hostname returns the correct ip address.  ping uses the wrong one
[18:29] <Gargravarr> gogeta: ?
[18:29] <nexus6> Gargravarr: Makes sense. :)
[18:29] <Gargravarr> nexus6: the microcode updates generally include performance improvements and security patches
[18:29] <gogeta> Gargravarr, the version on gnome they are using has a memery leak
[18:29] <gogeta> of
[18:30] <nexus6> gogeta: I'm using xfce.
[18:30] <gogeta> nexus6, :)
[18:30] <Gargravarr> gogeta: oh joy. i'm looking to upgrade people here pretty soon after it gets released
[18:30] <evelin> hii
[18:31] <evelin> I had some trouble to login on Ubuntu 17.10 yesterday
[18:31] <pragmaticenigma> nexus6: Microcode is installed on each boot. what do you mean remove it?
[18:31] <evelin> I put my correct username and password, it seems to login, but it loops back to the same screen
[18:32] <SlidingHorn> evelin: which flavor and version of ubuntu?
[18:32] <Gargravarr> pragmaticenigma: i recommended he try removing it because i got a freeze with sssd due to it
[18:32] <Gargravarr> evelin: do you use an encrypted home folder? this happens when the passwords come out of sync
[18:33] <pragmaticenigma> Microcode should not affect harddrives, it's processor instruction set. Currently important for protection against Spectere and Meltdown exploits
[18:33] <evelin> SlidingHorn: is the Ubuntu with Gnome
[18:33] <evelin> 17.10 version
[18:33] <nexus6> pragmaticenigma: Removing the ubuntu package "intel-microcode".
[18:33] <Gargravarr> pragmaticenigma: ss*s*d :)
[18:34] <Gargravarr> System Security Services Daemon
[18:34] <gogeta> nexus6, probly would not make a diffrence
[18:34] <gogeta> nexus6, its in the mainline kernel to
[18:34] <evelin> Gargravarr: no, I haven't
[18:34] <pragmaticenigma> I'm pretty certain removing the microcode isn't going to solve anything. And will leave the system vulnerable
[18:35] <gogeta> pragmaticenigma, pretty shure the oopen source drivers where also patched
[18:35] <gogeta> pragmaticenigma, in fact its how everyone found about it
[18:35] <Gargravarr> pragmaticenigma: agreed, it may do nothing, but i figured it's worth it as a diagnostic step, since i've had systems lock up with no error logs requiring a hard reset
[18:35] <pragmaticenigma> "intel-microcode" is a binary blob for the Intel Processor in your computer. It only affects the CPU, and only provides an enhanced instruction set for the processor.
[18:36] <nacc> pragmaticenigma: well, it also fixes some glaring security issues :)
[18:36] <Gargravarr> turned out the microcode update caused sssd and AppArmor to fight for a resource lock and turn into an infinite loop
[18:36] <evelin> could it be some trouble with my video card? Is an AMD card, and I heard Linux has some troubles with it
[18:36] <pepermuntjes> ugh
[18:37] <Gargravarr> pragmaticenigma: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-microcode/+bug/1759920/comments/61 in case you don't believe me :)
[18:37] <gogeta> cupim, depends on the card
[18:37] <Gargravarr> cupim: unlikely to be the video card, it would crash before the login screen in most cases
[18:38] <gogeta> cupim, as as far as i can tell as of kernel 4.15 amd should mostly be supported
[18:38] <pragmaticenigma> Gargravarr: if you look at the bug, you will see the fix is released under linux not microcode
[18:38] <nomike> perfect. My desktop looks exactly as I want it now.
[18:38] <SlidingHorn> evelin: is this an upgrade from 16.04, or did you do a clean install of 17.10?
[18:38] <pragmaticenigma> Gargravarr: kernel was updated
[18:39] <Gargravarr> pragmaticenigma: indeed, because the microcode is Intel's and the kernel devs can't exactly patch it. however, the issue was /caused/ by the microcode update
[18:39] <cupim> SlidingHorn: I did a clean install
[18:39] <pragmaticenigma> SlidingHorn: evelin is not cupim
[18:39] <pragmaticenigma> s/not/now/
[18:40] <cupim> Gargravarr: and the fix can be made if I login using "Ubuntu on X"?
[18:40]  * SlidingHorn unignores nick changes
[18:40] <cupim> 'cause this was the only way I could login
[18:40] <cupim> SlidingHorn: hahaha sorry, yes, I am "cupim"
[18:41] <cupim> I've changed the nickname
[18:41] <cupim> evelin = cupim
[18:41] <pragmaticenigma> cupim: please in the future, avoid changing your nick while receiving assistance
[18:41] <Gargravarr> or, if doing so, to something similar that can be found by tab-complete
[18:42] <cupim> ah, ok, I didn't know it wasn't a good thing, this is my first time here
[18:42] <cupim> sorry again
[18:43] <cupim> ok, pragmaticenigma and Gargravarr
[18:44] <Gargravarr> okay, moving on, we've established it is a clean install and unlikely to be the video card
[18:44] <cupim> yes
[18:44] <tuturu> hi. I've lost all my data. Please help. I got new mint instead of my old one.Started with Could not update ICEauthority file/home/user/.ICEauthority. followed tutorials online and lost all my disk data
[18:44] <Gargravarr> cupim: are you able to log in as any other users on this computer (if there are any)?
[18:44] <SlidingHorn> !mint | tuturu
[18:45] <cupim> Gargravarr, I had only administrator user at that time
[18:45] <gogeta> Gargravarr, you must construct additional pylons
[18:45] <quidnunc> Why are my wpa_supplicant and networkmanager services failing to start?
[18:45] <cupim> the only thing I tried was loging in by Ubuntu on X
[18:46] <derpingit> hi guys.. i'm thinking of getting a vps for file storage.. what's a good file server front i can install for user management ?
[18:46] <Gargravarr> gogeta: the only thing i know is that is StarCraft, i don't actually play it, so the joke is kinda lost :)
[18:46] <cupim> and I've succeeded, but nothing with normal Ubuntu interface
[18:47] <pragmaticenigma> derpingit: That isn't a good question for this support channel. Please ask your question in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:47] <derpingit> thanks, pragmaticenigma
[18:48] <kanun> how to know the shortcut keys for ubuntu ?
[18:48] <kanun> i am new to linux
[18:48] <pragmaticenigma> kanun: what shortcut keys are you looking for
[18:48] <gogeta> Gargravarr, it totaly was the fix for everyting protos lol
[18:48] <ziolo> ?
[18:49] <kanun> multitaskin key . shutdown , close app
[18:49] <kanun> etc etc
[18:49] <Gargravarr> kanun: most shortcut keys are copied from Windows
[18:49] <akem> Hey, what is the command line to open the settings in Ubuntu 17.10 ?
[18:49] <nomike> It's basically the same as in Windows
[18:49] <Gargravarr> e.g. close app is Alt+F4
[18:49] <kanun>  ok thans
[18:49] <pragmaticenigma> kanun: many of the shortcut keys are the same was what is found on other operating systems. Alt + Tab switches windows, Alt + F4 closes programs, etc...
[18:49] <kanun>  thanks
[18:49] <Gargravarr> akem: unity-control-center iirc
[18:50] <EriC^^> akem: unity-control-center
[18:50] <kanun>  how to customize the look of ubuntu ?
[18:50] <EriC^^> !themes | kanun
[18:50] <gogeta> kanun, install a diffrent version lol
[18:51] <akem> Gargravarr, EriC^^ This is for 14.x and 16.x, 17.10 is something different it's using Gnome.
[18:51] <akem> Ok it's gnome-control-center :) thanks.
[18:51] <Gargravarr> akem: gnome-control-center? try typing gnome- and double-Tab to see the completion options
[18:51] <kanun> i am using unity
[18:52] <kanun>  16.04
[18:52] <kanun> so gnome theme doesnt support right ?
[18:53] <nomike> w
[18:53] <gogeta> kanun, could not change a hell of alot in unity
[18:54] <gogeta> kanun, the app ubuntu tweak lets you play with alot of the settings
[18:54] <gogeta> kanun, just be carefull with it
[18:54] <weillisterd> I'm using kubuntu 17.10. I installed bumblebee using the wiki but now my laptop refuses to boot. After displaying the kubuntu logo, it stays black
[18:55] <kanun> ohh then what about 17.10 ?/ its gnome based. which is better gnome or unity ? i am confused
[18:55] <gogeta> kanun, only 18.04 is gnome based
[18:55] <kanun> i want a lot customization
[18:55] <nicomachus> gogeta: that's not true.
[18:55] <kostkon> gogeta, unity is gnome based as well
[18:55] <nicomachus> gogeta: 17.10 was the first iteration of the gnome-default ubuntu
[18:55] <nomike> kanun: what you can do is change the window decorations (basically this stuff: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Gtk3-widget-factory-3.16.0.png). And you can install "gnome-desktop" and use it instead of unity.
[18:55] <gogeta> nick1234, oh
[18:55] <gogeta> kanun, oh seems i was wrong there
[18:56] <Gargravarr> kanun: Unity is itself based on a heavily modified form of Gnome. you can switch to using pure Gnome fairly easily, or a different desktop environment altogether
[18:56] <gogeta> kanun, defult ubuntu isnt my cup of tea
[18:56] <Gargravarr> if you're new to Ubuntu from a Windows background, you may find the Cinnamon desktop to be easier to get to grips with
[18:56] <nicomachus> Or MATE, which is a supported flavor of ubuntu
[18:57] <kanun> i am new to ubuntu from windows . but cinnamon is boring i think. i dont want similar look of windows
[18:57] <nomike> kanun: But you can also wait 4 more days, then the new Ubunntu 18.04 is out and you can upgrade to that version which uses gnome as a default. Main benefit of 18.04 is that it is a long term support release so you are not forced to update to a newer version for the next couple of years (but of course you can whenever you like).
[18:58] <nicomachus> kanun: we can't help you pick one. Google different desktop environments, but know that Gnome, MATE, KDE, and lxde are the most commonly used with Ubuntu.
[18:58] <Gargravarr> also XFCE
[18:58] <oerheks> kanun> i want a lot customization .. sure you can
[18:58] <nomike> kanun: and you can also install "ubuntu-xfce-desktop" and check this out. I use it at work and I'm very happy with it
[18:58] <Gargravarr> there is probably an article comparing the major ones
[18:58] <kanun>  nomika: do i have to download and install from boot ? or there is any upgrade option ?
[18:58] <kanun> in case i want to upgrade to 18.04
[18:59] <Gargravarr> kanun: you can chop and change desktop environments at any time
[18:59] <tda> kubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, etc...
[18:59] <nomike> There is the Software Updf
[18:59] <nomike> oops
[19:00] <Gargravarr> you could even install all of them on the same machine to try them out
[19:00] <kanun> how ?
[19:00] <Gargravarr> (provided you have a fast internet connection that is :) )
[19:00] <nicomachus> yep, and switch around from the greeter screen.
[19:00] <nomike> kanun: there is the "Software Updater" program which will tell you in a couple of days that there is a new version of ubuntu and ask you if you want to update. It's normally quite straight forward. And depending on your internet-speet and computer-speed it will take between 30 minutes and 3 hours.
[19:00] <Gargravarr> kanun: apt-get install ubuntu-<desktop>
[19:00] <tda> i would not recommend this. ime the different environments conflict and things break in weird ways
[19:00] <tomreyn> kanun: installing additional desktop environments does not impact your ability to upgrade to a new uubntu version (once it is released and upgrades are supported).
[19:00] <gogeta> kanun, higly customiasble would be like deepin kde gnome 3
[19:01] <ioria> nomike, you mean xubuntu-desktop not ubuntu-xfce-desktop , right ?
[19:01] <gogeta> kanun, even xfce
[19:01] <Gargravarr> or what nomike suggests and upgrade to 18.04, which has quite a nice UI by default
[19:01] <nomike> ioria: yes, thanks for correcting me
[19:01] <ioria> ok
[19:01] <nomike> and if you want to try out kde, the package to install is "kununtu-desktop".
[19:02] <Gargravarr> tda: i've never installed more than 2 DEs on one machine so i've never seen them break :)
[19:02] <kanun> ok then . it will automatically notify me right ? but i am in 16.04 and never got any update notifiction for 17.10
[19:02] <Gargravarr> kanun: this is correct, 16.04 is a Long-Term Support release supported for 5 years
[19:02] <gogeta> kanun, you need to set it to non lts major updates
[19:02] <Gargravarr> it only automatically asks you to update to the next LTS, which is released every 2 years
[19:03] <gogeta> kanun, otherwise it only ask you to update on the next lts
[19:03] <nomike> exactly, 16.04 is LTS and 18.04 is LTS again, so
[19:03] <nomike> that's why it will ask you.
[19:03] <weillisterd> Is anyone here using the KDE desktop environment?
[19:03] <kanun> ohh. it will be full os upgrade right ?
[19:03] <gogeta> kanun, yes
[19:03] <Gargravarr> kanun: yes
[19:03] <nomike> yes
[19:04] <kanun> will there be any loss of date ?
[19:04] <kanun> do i need to backup ?
[19:04] <Gargravarr> not normally
[19:04] <Gargravarr> a backup is recommended
[19:04] <gogeta> kanun, backups never hurt
[19:04] <nomike> no, but as always, be sure to backup important stuff
[19:04] <Gargravarr> *always* :)
[19:04] <weillisterd> Will Ubuntu with KDE give me the same user experience as Kubuntu?
[19:04] <gogeta> kanun, i always take a timeshift image before a major update
[19:05] <gogeta> kanun, so if the system explodes i can roll it back
[19:05] <weillisterd> I like the stability of Ubuntu and the looks of kubuntu
[19:05] <Gargravarr> weillisterd: that's what Kubuntu is
[19:05] <weillisterd> But kubuntu is buggy
[19:05] <kanun> ok then . thanks guyz for helping me out . good night
[19:05] <Gargravarr> one and the same thing
[19:05] <weillisterd> No. I found kubuntu crash more often than Ubuntu
[19:05] <gogeta> willcooke, give deepin a go
[19:06] <gogeta> willcooke, its qt5 based i love it
[19:06] <gogeta> willcooke, its like a mix of kde and gnome 3
[19:07] <genewitch> i'm running this script with systemd (systemctl) https://raw.githubusercontent.com/genewitch/cloud-scripts/master/up1.sh and the last line that runs the actual service never fires. It used to, but i had to set up a new machine and now it no longer runs nodejs. Did i set up the service wrong? service: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/BW7nYWYH-KcmXrMIKDQ2ig
[19:07] <genewitch> if i run sudo ~/up1.sh, nodejs starts, so there's something going on with the way systemd runs it
[19:07] <pragmaticenigma> weillisterd: crashiness can be due to how you use it.  If you install a bunch of plugins or programs, those might be the culprit
[19:08] <weillisterd> No plugins. Even for a stock install, Ubuntu was more stable
[19:08] <weillisterd> Sometimes kubuntu outright refused to boot until I long pressed the power button
[19:08] <gogeta> weillisterd, check out depin i wasdirecting that to you
[19:09] <gogeta> deepin
[19:10] <weillisterd> Seems to ship with a lot of bloatware
[19:10] <gogeta> weillisterd, the window manager not the distro lol
[19:10] <gogeta> weillisterd, you can install it on ubuntu
[19:10] <weillisterd> Lol. Can I install Ubuntu and install plasma separately?
[19:10] <weillisterd> I'll be doing a fresh install of 18.04
[19:11] <gogeta> weillisterd, you shure can
[19:11] <tomreyn> genewitch: probably a different environment, be sure to specify the full path to the script. also, in the "[Service]" scrtion of your unit file, you can add "Environment=SYSTEMD_LOG_LEVEL=debug"
[19:11] <tda> be prepared to add a lot of packages manually. plasma is literally just the environment. a lot of usual tools, utilities, libraries, etc... are not included
[19:11] <genewitch> tomreyn: full path to which script?
[19:12] <tomreyn> genewitch: oh you're using the full path in the unit file already, sorry
[19:12] <tomreyn> i was referring to ExecStart
[19:13] <genewitch> tomreyn: yep. everything in the script runs except the very last line
[19:14] <genewitch> i had this running on an older 16.04 instance, but i forgot how i got it to exec on boot
[19:15] <ioria> genewitch, sy, i don't get the last line.... you start the service with systemctl enable service
[19:15] <genewitch> ioria: it is enabled, it runs on boot. the script i linked (the github one) runs, except for the very last line, which starts nodejs. nodejs never starts. if i run the script manually, nodejs starts
[19:16] <ioria> genewitch, ha, ok
[19:18] <ioria> genewitch, the script it's executed as root; can you start nodejs server.js as root ?
[19:18] <shazbotmcnasty> Hey there. i set up ftp on a computer. It can access /home and the folders within just fine when FTPing to the machine, but i can't get access to other folders on the machine, they're blank. Anyone know what I have to do to get access to other folders? I need to add /u1 and /u2 folders .
[19:19] <genewitch> it's not executed as root? who is it executed as?
[19:19] <genewitch> it doesn't have any issue editing /etc/fstab
[19:19] <genewitch> so
[19:19] <genewitch> oh, yes, i can do sudo /home/ubuntu/up1.sh and it starts immediately
[19:19] <ioria> genewitch, ok
[19:19] <genewitch> and drops back to shell
[19:19] <genewitch> because of the &
[19:20] <leftyfb> shazbotmcnasty: you need to read the documentation on the ftp daemon you're using. Also, using FTP to manage files across your entire filesystem on a server is not the best idea.
[19:20] <tomreyn> you could even say it's a really bad idea
[19:21] <ioria> genewitch, no idea, some dependencies ?
[19:21] <genewitch> where, though? it runs manually.
[19:21] <leftyfb> tomreyn: I get chastised for such opinions so I try to water them down these days :)
[19:21] <shazbotmcnasty> leftyfb: I've heard.  I am clearly missing something.
[19:28] <Pici> Younder: this is unrelated to bind9.
[19:28] <tomreyn> Younder: mount is a command to make a file system accessbile at a given (already existing) directory.
[19:28] <tomreyn> oh
[19:28] <Younder> tomreyn, I know what mount is and fstab
[19:29] <shazbotmcnasty> tomreyn, leftyfb - didn't work - so the path is there when you ftp, but the files aren't vieweable when FTPing in.
[19:29] <shazbotmcnasty> so you can follow the file path, and the directory structure is there, but you can't see any files. Seems like a permissions issue, but I'm not sure what permissions to change.
[19:30] <tomreyn> Younder: right, so "mount --bind" is unrelated to "bind9"
[19:31] <tomreyn> shazbotmcnasty: so your ftp server is configured to not follow symlinks. that's probably a good idea. and why ioria suggested to directly mount those /u* file systems into /home
[19:31] <sruli> i screwed up, need some help, i ececuted "sudo chown -R user:user /path/dir /" space before final slash i cancelled it but i guess it started  changing owner of / now when i try running sudo i get "sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set" how cani revert my screwup?
[19:31] <tda> tomreyn: mount --bind lets you mount a filesystem multiple times
[19:32] <Younder> tomreyn, ahh, I see
[19:32] <tomreyn> shazbotmcnasty: i'd very much recommend to take a step back and re-evaluate whether you should actually run an ftp server and expose /home with it., though. do you want to discuss your use case / scenario / the overall purpose?
[19:32] <JimBuntu> sruli, You can use a live boot media, if you have one laying around
[19:32] <tomreyn> tda: that is a factually correct statement.
[19:33] <leftyfb> shazbotmcnasty: as I said, bind mount. And set the appropriate permissions on both the mount config and the files on the drives themselves
[19:33] <sruli> JimBuntu: yes but how do i know which dirs need what permissions? i dont want to change everything to root
[19:34] <JimBuntu> sruli, I am not aware of any "undo" for this, I am sorry to say. Someone may have written a generic script, but I can't imagine it will get everything
[19:35] <tda> you probably want o+r or o+rx
[19:35] <sruli> JimBuntu: given that user now owns /usr/bin/sudo i can easily change back that to root, question is about other dirs
[19:36] <segfaulted22> Hi all, I did a fresh install of Ubuntu on a Thinkpad that previously had Win10 on it. I told the installer to reformat the whole disk, but I still see "Windows Boot Loader" in the Grub2 menu. Why is that? And how can I remove it?
[19:37] <JimBuntu> sruli, can you `ls -alF /var` and see if it made it that far?
[19:37] <genewitch> segfaulted22: because windows installs the bootloader on a different partition, did you repartition or just reformat the largest partition
[19:37] <sruli> JimBuntu: my previous statement is incorrect, cannot change it, need to use livecd, i wonder if the consequences of this might not keep be busy for weeks
[19:37] <JimBuntu> sruli, I sure hope not, re-installation should prove much faster
[19:38] <segfaulted22> genewitch: I guess I probably just reformatted the largest partition. I'm not sure. I just told the installer "Use the whole disk", so I don't know what it did.
[19:38] <sruli> JimBuntu: a reinstall 2 days before next LTS i want to scream !!
[19:39] <JimBuntu> sruli, LTS xx.xx.0 though. Relax, you probably have plenty of time before the point release
[19:39] <tomreyn> sruli: well you can cheat and install it already
[19:39] <JimBuntu> ^^ There's that too
[19:39] <sruli> JimBuntu: how long before .1? i was planning alot of reinstalls from the 1st of may
[19:39] <nacc> sruli: 3 months roughly
[19:40] <sruli> until than its considered beta?
[19:40] <nacc> sruli: no, it's just not .1
[19:40] <JimBuntu> sruli, no... it's just "fresh"
[19:41] <JimBuntu> sruli, A fair number of people wait for the first point release before they install the new LTS for production/etc. That's all.
[19:42] <ash_work> so, when I try changing back to the x.org nouveau driver, I get the blinking cursor back and sometimes the whole system just freezes when I launch an application
[19:43] <ash_work> I read I could try disabling the *NVIDIA* driver when I switch back.... does that sound like a good idea to anyone?
[19:44] <ash_work> fyi, currently using the Nvidia driver with displaylink for a dynadock hub to use 2 monitors
[19:44] <nacc> JimBuntu: sruli: and upgrades from 16.04 to 18.04 are not offered until 18.04.1 by default (for the 'lts' mode)
[19:44] <pepermuntjes> how to hide the firefox top bar in 18.04?
[19:45] <xamithan> We would have no idea,  there is a different channel for bionic questions
[19:47] <sruli> JimBuntu: trying to get a list of all effected dirs, so far i've got "find / -type d -not -path "/home" -exec stat -c '%U' {} >> /tmp/owner_list \;" however that only outputs username, any idea how i can get it to output path?
[19:47] <ash_work> seems like the nvidia drivers are a bit of a memory hog.... or maybe that's just displaylink?
[19:47] <ash_work> idk
[19:47] <ash_work> sad
[19:47] <pepermuntjes> xamithan, what is that channel?
[19:48] <xamithan> #ubuntu+1
[19:48] <pepermuntjes> ty
[19:49] <shazbotmcnasty> tomreyn: unfortunately it's not my server. He's aware of the security issues - this is just a customer request and I'm trying to get it working for him.
[19:49] <shazbotmcnasty> tomreyn: so i know it's a permissions issue - but I'm not sure what permissions to change
[19:49] <shazbotmcnasty> "" And set the appropriate permissions on both the mount config and the files on the drives themselves
[19:50] <JimBuntu> sruli, I'm not sure what the best method would be for that
[19:50] <shazbotmcnasty> ^^ I need to know how to do that, what permissions to set - without breaking user profiles or program data in those folders.
[19:51] <sruli> JimBuntu: i guess i will need to do it in 2 steps, first list all then filter out username
[19:53] <f00> hello i have i7-3632QM cpu ... would you recommend to install  intel microcode?
[19:53] <JimBuntu> sruli, you can add the -print parameter to the find command
[19:53] <tomreyn> shazbotmcnasty: personally, even when iuts a request of a custom, i would outright deny it, as i'd say it's part of our responsibility to not deliver inherently insecure solutions. and - sorry to disappoint - that's also why i'm not interested in support you at doing it for your customer. if you hope to get someone else to support you with this, i suggest you provide information on the ftp server you chose to use and the file systems you have
[19:53] <tomreyn> mounted, and how they are mounted.
[19:54] <nexus6> Gargravarr: Quick question: Should I remove "intel-microcode" or "iucode-tool" or both?
[19:56] <tda> intel-microcode is the actual binary that loads on to the cpu
[19:59] <ash_work> I mean, will my laptop be working this hard no matter what I do?
[20:00] <gogeta> ash_work, ?
[20:00] <nacc> ash_work: displaylink
[20:00] <nacc> ash_work: check top, but i'm 95% sure that's it
[20:00] <ash_work> nacc: yus
[20:00] <nacc> ash_work: it's not just a driver, but also a binary that runs on top of X
[20:00] <ash_work> nacc: so, there's nothing I can do
[20:01] <nacc> ash_work: don't use DL :)
[20:01] <nexus6> tda: thanks, Gargravarr suggested that I remove intel-microcode to get rid of random freezes that my system has been doing past two days. Do you think I should downgrade the microcode to something old or should I just remove this package?
[20:01] <gogeta> ash_work, there is a memery leak in 18.04 gnome
[20:01] <ash_work> DL?
[20:01] <nacc> ash_work: i got rid of my hub because it was such a pain
[20:01] <nacc> ash_work: DisplayLink
[20:01] <ash_work> oh
[20:01] <ash_work> I think there was _some_ work around I once had
[20:01] <tda> nexus6: downgrading probably not worth the effor
[20:01] <ash_work> setting some kind of xorg config
[20:01] <ash_work> maybe
[20:02] <ash_work> I vaguely remember having to do something during POST
[20:02] <ash_work> I thought that's where my nomodeset memory came from
[20:02] <ash_work> but tbh, I don't even remember install displaylink
[20:02] <ash_work> installing*
[20:02] <ash_work> (in my past setup)
[20:04] <ash_work> does anyone else have any input on this?
[20:05] <gogeta> ash_work, i did metion the mery leak
[20:05] <ash_work> compiz is at the top btw
[20:05] <gogeta> memery
[20:05] <ash_work> gogeta: memory*; I don't see how that's relevant
[20:05] <ash_work> in any event, can I disable compiz?
[20:05] <nacc> ash_work: you only DL if you ahve specific hardware that needs it
[20:05] <gogeta> ash_work, and its a big one just a few windows will be a issue
[20:06] <ash_work> nacc: well, like, I said, I don't remember installing it before to use this hub
[20:06] <gogeta> ash_work, becouse memery leaks fill up your ram and make you system work hard
[20:06] <ash_work> but my memory is not that good
[20:06] <ash_work> I hear about people messing around wiht compiz
[20:06] <gogeta> ash_work, are we talking a old machine hear
[20:06] <ash_work> is there something I can do with that?
[20:06] <nacc> ash_work: ok, uninistall it?
[20:07] <gogeta> ash_work, you can but then it reverts to softwhere render
[20:07] <ash_work> nacc: compiz or dl?
[20:07] <nacc> ash_work: displaylink
[20:07] <gogeta> ash_work, if you talking a old machune hear i recmond lubuntu or xubuntu
[20:07] <gogeta> machine
[20:08] <ash_work> gogeta: no, but advertising a memory leak with no resolution doesn't help
[20:08] <gogeta> ash_work, they use way less resorces
[20:08] <gogeta> ash_work, there isnt one it has to be patched
[20:09] <nacc> ash_work: it's being worked on upstream, afaik
[20:09] <gogeta> ash_work, https://fossbytes.com/gnome-3-26-memory-leak-issue-no-fix-ubuntu-18-04/
[20:10] <Bashing-om> ash_work: A patch ( not great one ) is out : https://feaneron.com/2018/04/20/the-infamous-gnome-shell-memory-leak/ .
[20:11] <genewitch> okay i need some way other than systemd to start this on boot: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/genewitch/cloud-scripts/master/up1.sh because systemd just can't do it something about the nohup or something throws it off
[20:11] <ash_work> Bashing-om: this is tied to DL?
[20:11] <kostkon> ash_work, dl?
[20:11] <nacc> ash_work: no, gnome-shell has a leak
[20:11] <nacc> ash_work: displaylink is separtely a cpu hog (and not in ubuntu)
[20:12] <ash_work> so, none of that concerns my current issue
[20:12] <ash_work> right?
[20:12] <ash_work> kostkon: displaylink
[20:12] <nacc> ash_work: didn't you say your cpu was busy?
[20:12] <leftyfb> genewitch: why other than systemd?
[20:12] <ash_work> kostkon: blame nacc for enabling my laziness
[20:12] <gogeta> ash_work, you can do alt f2 then r every few hrs to clear the memery
[20:12] <ash_work> nacc: yeah, with compiz, followed by displaylink
[20:12] <kostkon> ash_work, np
[20:12] <gogeta> ash_work, or gnome-shell --replace
[20:13] <nacc> ash_work: that's almost certainly displaylink -- and you can check top, as i said 12 minutes ago.
[20:13] <genewitch> leftyfb: as i said, because systemd does not correctly run the nohup nodejs server.js & line
[20:13] <ash_work> nacc: I did... that's where I'm giving you these processes... wait... we're going in circles
[20:13] <genewitch> leftyfb: running that script manually after boot it starts nodejs, but when systemd does it, it doesn't.
[20:13] <nacc> ash_work: so, as i said, uninstall displaylink and see if it's better -- compiz is unrelted to gnome-shell's memory leak
[20:13] <leftyfb> genewitch: I would focus on sorting that out as opposed to going the other way
[20:14] <nacc> ash_work: disable compiz if you don't need it, as well
[20:14] <gogeta> nacc, that will put more load on his system
[20:14] <genewitch> leftyfb: do you know why systemd wouldn't run that line?
[20:14] <nacc> gogeta: what will?
[20:14] <gogeta> nacc, gone depends on it
[20:14] <gogeta> gnome
[20:14] <nacc> gogeta: you don't need compiz for anything
[20:14] <nacc> gogeta: no it doesn't.
[20:14] <ash_work> nacc: okay, so 1) should I be doing that in a non-gui... like should I kill lightdm before uninstalling displaylink?
[20:15] <ash_work> 2) how do you disable compiz?
[20:15] <gogeta> nacc, it will switch to a doftwhere render
[20:15] <gogeta> nacc, softwhere
[20:15] <nacc> ash_work: you can remove displaylink the same way you installed it
[20:15] <nacc> ash_work: i believe it won't have any effect until you reboot
[20:15] <genewitch> that script is literally all this server does. it does NOTHIGN else. 0 users, 0 other things running, it's just that nodejs bootstrap and run nodejs
[20:15] <gogeta> nacc, using more cpu power for the window effects
[20:15] <nacc> gogeta: i have no idea what you're basing that off of, but compiz is *also* software
[20:15] <nacc> gogeta: perhaps you're confusing something else?
[20:16] <gogeta> nacc, compiz uses your gpu
[20:16] <nacc> gogeta: if compiz is consuming cpu cycles, then your point, whether it is true or not, is neither here nor there
[20:16] <ash_work> nacc: and compiz?
[20:17] <gogeta> nacc, yea it just hit mje
[20:17] <nacc> gogeta: but i haven't had compiz installed for a long time
[20:17] <gogeta> nacc, if hes having a gpu driver problem compiz may be eating up his cpu
[20:17] <nacc> ash_work: compiz is only necessary if you want fancy graphics effects, imo
[20:17] <sruli> JimBuntu: any idead for how to get ls -lahR list only dirs not files?
[20:17] <nacc> ash_work: i'm not 100% on how to disable it and busy right now
[20:18] <ash_work> nacc: sorry for bugging you so much
[20:18] <ash_work> thanks though :) I'll figure itout
[20:18] <nacc> ash_work: nothing to apologize for
[20:19] <gogeta> yea havent delt with it in so long
[20:19] <gogeta> as most wm use there own thing now
[20:19] <ash_work> just want you to know I respect your time
[20:19] <genewitch> Oh
[20:19] <genewitch> OH
[20:19] <ash_work> and know that you are not here to serve my every whim
[20:19] <genewitch> systemd doesn't need nohup foo &
[20:19] <genewitch> you just run "foo"
[20:19] <nacc> ash_work: thanks :)
[20:23]  * ash_work is annoyed he has to install a tool in order to disable compiz
[20:24] <ash_work> I'm thinking about just uninstalling compiz, is that a bad idea?
[20:26] <genewitch> ash_work: i've broken many a desktop VM by trying to remove parts of the GUI
[20:26] <genewitch> but if you can do it, then do it. who cares.
[20:27] <ash_work> interesting
[20:28] <kostkon> ash_work, what DE are you running
[20:28] <nacc> ash_work: i think only unity and mate depend on compiz
[20:28] <nacc> ash_work: are you on 18.04?
[20:28] <ash_work> so I removed compiz and `sudo displaylink-installer uninstall` and... well without restarting my set switched back to single screen
[20:28] <nacc> gogeta: that may be where we were getting confused -- gnome does not depend on compiz, unity does
[20:28] <nacc> ash_work: yes, displaylink is what you were using to drive multple displays
[20:28] <ash_work> the hub still works for keyboard and mouse... and apparently networking too
[20:28] <nacc> ash_work: i'm guessing
[20:29] <ash_work> nacc: yeah, what I mean is I'm surprised it switched without restarting
[20:29] <nacc> ash_work: it may have unloaded the modules
[20:29] <nacc> ash_work: it's some binary scriptlet, iirc
[20:29] <ryzokuken> when does 18.04 land?
[20:29] <ash_work> like 2 days
[20:29] <SlidingHorn> ryzokuken: Thursday
[20:29] <phil42> 26th
[20:29] <leftyfb> !bionic | ryzokuken
[20:29] <tda> sometime thursdy
[20:30] <ash_work> dayum, who guessed it! :D
[20:30] <tda> 28th now?
[20:30] <ash_work> oh
[20:30] <ash_work> 28th
[20:30] <phil42> i am betting it will be identical to today's daily
[20:30] <ryzokuken> No, the 28th "release"
[20:30] <ash_work> w/e
[20:30] <ryzokuken> not releasing on "28th"
[20:30] <ryzokuken> damn, my quote game is weak.
[20:31] <ryzokuken> anyway, it's 25th here already. Goodluck, all.
[20:31] <ash_work> bbs
[20:31] <ryzokuken> I hope the new release supports Macbook Pro 2017 out of the box, does it?
[20:31] <tda> hopefully will be able to dl and get started when i get home
[20:32] <ryzokuken> 16.04 shits the bed on the MBP 2017 (which is fine, tbh. It's old)
[20:32] <SlidingHorn> !ohmy | ryzokuken
[20:32] <genewitch> what happens if i fork a github project and the original project gets deleted?
[20:32] <genewitch> is my fork stable?
[20:32] <ryzokuken> SlidingHorn: sorry
[20:32] <kostkon> ryzokuken, there's only one way to find out
[20:32] <ryzokuken> kostkon: true
[20:33] <ryzokuken> genewitch: I think, yes.
[20:33] <ryzokuken> It is.
[20:33] <ryzokuken> People have done that before.
[20:33] <gogeta> ryzokuken, lol
[20:34] <gogeta> rymate1234, you would be shock how many 14.04 users come in asking why there getting repos not found
[20:34] <ryzokuken> meanwhile, we released Node.js 10 today.
[20:34] <gogeta> ryzokuken, lol
[20:34] <rymate1234> I would
[20:34] <gogeta> rymate1234, wrong nae dam tab
[20:34] <genewitch> isn't LTS 4 years support
[20:34] <genewitch> 5 years even
[20:34] <gogeta> genewitch, its like 8 on server i thing
[20:35] <genewitch> why would 14.04 repos stop existing yet
[20:35] <rymate1234> I'm also shocked at the amount of people who's hexchat ping order isn't set to last spoke order
[20:35] <tda> no it's 5 everywhere right?
[20:35] <loveubuntalot> hi
[20:35] <genewitch> 5 makes the most sense
[20:35] <loveubuntalot> anyone have experience with ubuntu and touch screen devices?
[20:36] <rymate1234> general degrees of suckiness
[20:36] <genewitch> 4 years a new LTS hits, and 1 year after that all of the potential breakage has been worked out.
[20:36] <SlidingHorn> loveubuntalot: feel free to ask your question - if someone knows the answer, they'll respond.  You might also want to checkout #ubports
[20:36] <loveubuntalot> I'm trying to decide what kind of touch screen would work with ubuntu -- perhaps I need to consider particular chipsets
[20:36] <loveubuntalot> SlidingHorn, thanks
[20:36] <genewitch> loveubuntalot: i've never had one not work, but sometimes they take some editing of files. Haven't had a touchscreen issue in a couple years though
[20:37] <loveubuntalot> i'd prefer a multi-touch screen -- something like these https://lhdisplaysz.en.alibaba.com/search/product?SearchText=linux
[20:37] <loveubuntalot> I should ask the manufacturer about the chipsets off course -- would really appreciate a pointer
[20:38] <loveubuntalot> genewitch, ok
[20:38] <loveubuntalot> nice to know -- this is getting mature by now
[20:39] <genewitch> i first used ubuntu on a touch screen in like 2009
[20:39] <loveubuntalot> genewitch, even multi-touch -- projective capacitive types
[20:39] <genewitch> loveubuntalot: my current laptop is multi-touch, you can pinch and stuff
[20:40] <loveubuntalot> great -- I suspect most of these should be using the USB Human interaction standard --- so no driver needed
[20:40] <loveubuntalot> at least that is what I'm hoping :S
[20:42] <ash_worksi> okay well, now nothing is displaying
[20:42] <ash_worksi> I mean, I get the desktop, but no launcher or dash
[20:42] <ash_worksi> and ctrl+alt+T does not bring up the terminal
[20:43] <ash_worksi> right now I'm using tty1 on irssi
[20:43] <ash_worksi> I tried reinstalling compiz, but that didn't help
[20:43] <ash_worksi> I restarted twice too
[20:43] <nacc> ash_worksi: what version of ubuntu were you on?
[20:43] <ash_worksi> was/am on 16.04
[20:44] <ash_worksi> nacc: ^
[20:45] <nacc> ash_worksi: hrm, you might need to reinstall unity, if yuou removed compiz
[20:45] <nacc> ash_worksi: and then see if it's still using up cpu
[20:45] <nacc> ash_worksi: i'm sort of assuming you're doing some due diligence as an enduser to see what's being removed and not letting it remove, say, youre entire DE
[20:45] <ash_worksi> >.<
[20:47] <ash_worksi> where is the remove log again? /var/log/apt... or something?
[20:47] <genii> ash_worksi: You probably want /var/log/dpkg
[20:47] <ash_worksi> yes
[20:51] <ash_worksi> that seems to have worked
[20:51] <ash_worksi> I guess I should look over the log to ensure I didn't remove anything else completely stupid
[20:52] <ash_worksi> but note to the channel, do not apt-get remove compiz
[20:52] <nacc> ash_worksi: sorry, i for some reason thought you were on 18.04
[20:52] <nacc> ash_worksi: my fault, completely
[20:52] <nacc> ash_worksi: you *can* remove compiz, you just need to have gnome setup already
[20:54] <ash_worksi> is gnome a DE?
[20:54] <nacc> ash_worksi: yes
[20:54] <arooni> what would be the equivalent of this command in ubuntu
[20:54] <arooni> sudo pacman -S gcc5 CC=gcc-5 rvm install 2.3.4 -C --with-openssl-dir=$HOME/.rvm/usr
[20:55] <nacc> arooni: there isn't one.
[20:55] <ash_worksi> well, I'll look over what I uninstalled now
[20:56] <ash_worksi> oh
[20:56] <ash_worksi> btw, compiz is still on `top`... but behind xorg
[20:56] <ash_worksi> gonna restart I suppose
[20:56] <nacc> ash_worksi: yeah -- do you have a good graphics card / do you want things like wobby windows?
[20:56] <arooni> nacc: ok;  i ran it with the --option and it worked ; hallelujah
[20:56] <nacc> *wobbly
[20:56] <nacc> arooni: ran what?
[21:02] <ash_work> so, I don't really see what else was removed in the dpkg.log
[21:03] <nacc> ash_work: you reinstall unity and it still didn't work?
[21:03] <Lope> I have ubuntu 16.04 and can't run the wondershaper script. "We have an error talking to the kernel." any ideas? Are there kernel modules I need to load?
[21:03] <ash_work> nacc: no, it did, I just want to make sure I didn't accidentally remove anything else
[21:04] <nacc> ash_work: that's almost certainly all you're missing to get your old desktop back
[21:04] <nacc> ash_work: you probably need to reboot
[21:04] <nacc> Lope: where is that script from?
[21:04] <oerheks> lope care to explain wondershaper script ?
[21:04] <Lope> nacc: `apt-get install wondershaper`
[21:04] <leftyfb> !info wondershaper
[21:04] <sky887> I got a question, how do you dual boot windows 10 and ubuntu so that you can choose your OS at startup?
[21:05] <nacc> Lope: does it possibly need sudo?
[21:05] <ash_work> nacc: I did, unity is working
[21:05] <nacc> Lope: did you check the manpage or documentation?
[21:05] <nacc> ash_work: cool
[21:05] <Lope> oerheks: the line it crashes on is `tc filter add dev ppp0 parent 1:0 protocol ip prio 10 u32 match ip tos 0x10 0xff  flowid 1:10`
[21:05] <ash_work> I just have a knack for creating problems for myself later down the road
[21:05] <ash_work> when I f* up like this
[21:05] <SlidingHorn> sky887: if you install ubuntu alongside windows, the default is that GRUB will automatically start and ask you which OS to load
[21:05] <SlidingHorn> !dualboot | sky887
[21:06] <ash_work> anyway, the log says 'startup packages remove'
[21:06] <sky887> Ok
[21:06] <ash_work> meaning?
[21:06] <Lope> nacc: I know how to run stuff as root, that's not the problem, I've used it on other computers without issue. I suspect I'm missing some kernel modules relating to `tc filter...`
[21:06] <dmm> can i get a url to anywhere that gives good instruction on installing hadoop
[21:07] <ash_work> oh, also remove ubuntu-desktop:amd64
[21:07] <ash_work> I guess I should reinstall that :p
[21:07] <nacc> ash_work: so you probably should install that one too :)
[21:07] <ash_work> mkay, restarting
[21:08] <ash_mobile> Phone time
[21:11] <loveubuntalot> genewitch, did multi-touch gestures work for you?
[21:11] <loveubuntalot> see comment here https://askubuntu.com/questions/789915/ubuntu-16-04-multitouch-gestures
[21:11] <loveubuntalot> some people have had to install additional applications
[21:11] <oerheks> Lope, checked the script, not sure what goes wrong there..
[21:12]  * oerheks examined: git clone  https://github.com/magnific0/wondershaper.git
[21:12] <SlidingHorn> dmm: You can check out Digital Ocean's documentation possibly.  Not really something that's supported here:  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/how-to-install-hadoop-in-stand-alone-mode-on-ubuntu-16-04
[21:14] <Lope> oerheks: I'm definitely missing some kernel functionality, but I don't know specifically what.
[21:14] <dmm> thanks slidingHorn
[21:15] <granttrec> anyone use ubuntu jeos on vbox?
[21:15] <Lope> oerheks: maybe I need to load a module, maybe I need to recompile my kernel, I've got no idea at the moment.
[21:17] <SlidingHorn> granttrec: JeOS hasn't really been a thing since Precise, if I remember correctly.  That being said, I don't think it'd be supported anymore.  You can always try to see if someone in #ubuntu-server might be able to help though
[21:18] <JPSman> I know everyone is super busy what with 18.04 comming out ... but I got a different question
[21:18] <granttrec> SlidingHorn: ok thanks
[21:19] <SlidingHorn> JPSman: feel free to ask, if someone knows the answer, they'll respond
[21:19] <JPSman> I just discovered that my laptop has an accelerometer in it
[21:19] <JPSman> I'd like to play with it more
[21:19] <JPSman> what software can I use to get input from it?  what cames can I plug into it?
[21:19] <JPSman> games even
[21:20] <gogeta> JPSman, what now
[21:20] <JPSman> My laptop has an accelerometer in it.  I noticed this because if my laptop wakes up from a sleep in a different orientation, my desktop orientation will be different
[21:21] <gogeta> JPSman, what is it one of those tablet laptops
[21:21] <JPSman> I did evtest /dev/input/event8 and sure enough, an accelerometer
[21:21] <JPSman> nope
[21:21] <nacc> JPSman: 'play with it', how?
[21:21] <nacc> JPSman: we don't know most of hte answers to your questions, i think
[21:21] <nacc> you'd need to google around for games that can use it
[21:21] <JPSman> well, I dunno.... I keep finding that people have problems with it becoming a joystick
[21:22] <JPSman> someone said try Neverball with it
[21:22] <JPSman> I did, and neverball isn't using the accelerometer
[21:22] <JPSman> I figured I'd ask if you guys knew of some software I could use to get more info about it
[21:22] <JPSman> using 16.04 BTW
[21:23] <JPSman> There is some other hacked scripts about constantly monitoring it and then auto rotating the screen
[21:23] <JPSman> I jsut figured there would be something more direct, instead of python parsing the output of evtest /dev/input/event8
[21:24] <JPSman> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[21:24] <JPSman> oh well
[21:24] <JPSman> I suppose i'll go ask #linux
[21:24] <en1gma> how many hours until ubuntu 18.04 goes LTS?
[21:25] <SlidingHorn> en1gma: sometime Thursday - there's no set time
[21:26] <en1gma> im getting excited. i had beta 2 installed but switched back a few days ago to 16.04 lts
[21:26] <en1gma> wanting official 18.04 lts and want to do clean install
[21:26] <oerheks> en1gma, just wait and see. it can be cancelled, happened before..
[21:26] <en1gma> not this close i bet
[21:27] <en1gma> does anyone know what timezone they are going by?
[21:27] <en1gma> its 4:27pm my time. im gmt-6 i think*
[21:27] <oerheks> en1gma, no need to ask, it depends when the servers are ready.
[21:28] <ash_work> where can I find some good information on working with sockets?
[21:28] <nacc> ash_work: `man socket` ?
[21:28] <antonm> Hi
[21:28] <nacc> ash_work: and the many manpages referred to from there
[21:28] <en1gma> i know about when servers are ready im asking is it going to be a "timed release" for some areas first?
[21:28] <nacc> en1gma: just wait, please don't pester to ask :)
[21:29] <nacc> en1gma: it will be announced and then you will get it.
[21:29] <oerheks> en1gma, ask, like you do now :-D
[21:29] <en1gma> ppl in europe dont want usa slowing down their data :P ok i predict somewhere in EU 1st
[21:29] <oerheks> join #ubuntu-release-party
[21:29] <en1gma> ewwww i gonna join
[21:29] <srukle> I don't know if this has been reported, but is anyone experiencing issues with Gnome lately? This past week my computer has shutdown on its own.
[21:30] <oerheks> gnome-bug .. memoryleak.
[21:30] <srukle> thank you oerheks
[21:30] <oerheks> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/03/gnome-shell-memory-leak-is-being-fixed
[21:30] <srukle> any ETA for fix?
[21:31] <oerheks> i think you need to upgrade, when 18.04 is out
[21:32] <gogeta> oerheks, not day 1
[21:32] <srukle> k i can do that
[21:32] <oerheks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1672297
[21:32] <gogeta> oerheks, day 1 is normaly a clusterfuck repos overloaded etc
[21:32] <gogeta> oerheks, i would say wait a week
[21:32] <SlidingHorn> gogeta: language...
[21:33] <oerheks> no need to wait, change mirror if it is slow..
[21:33] <antonm> gogeta, day 2 is probably almost as bad with everyone that wanted to avoid day 1 problems
[21:34] <srukle> change mirror? i don't see a PR for fix yet
[21:34] <gogeta> anto, why i said a week
[21:34] <gogeta> maybe two
[21:34] <antonm> oh
[21:34] <antonm> didn't see that
[21:34] <Ina-ba> Hello, does anyone here use/used Genymotion? I'm having some audio issues with it
[21:34] <antonm> week 2 might still have it's own problems
[21:35] <srukle> the same for debian :/
[21:35] <srukle> i wonder if debian fixed ti downstream?
[21:35] <srukle> any dd know?
[21:35] <gogeta> anto, not to metion that memery leak still in the final beta
[21:35] <gogeta> anto, probly gonna be in the relese
[21:35] <srukle> that's going to be rough
[21:35] <gogeta> anto, i would wit for that to get sorted first
[21:36] <oerheks> srukle, it might be backported to 3.28  https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GNOME-Shell-Memory-Leak-Fix
[21:37] <SlidingHorn> Ina-ba: You'd have to try their support.  Genymotion isn't something that's supported here, unfortunately
[21:37] <srukle> excellent! thank you oerheks :)
[21:37] <Ina-ba> SlidingHorn: alright, thanks!
[21:37] <sruli> JimBuntu: you still around? took me an hour to get a list and compare with another machine, going to livecd now, hoping for the best
[21:47] <E1ephant> looking  for some tips to troubleshoot, I have added the docker repo to apt (sources.list), however apt claims there is no Release file
[21:47] <E1ephant> when I can wget/curl it without issue
[21:47] <NaTeK> Feel good things feel good.
[21:48] <TyrfingMjolnir> How can I browse this PPA? ppa:dreamstudio/video
[21:49] <NaTeK> Bionic comes out in a few days no?
[21:50] <SlidingHorn> E1ephant: any reason you can't use the version available from the Ubuntu repos?
[21:51] <SlidingHorn> NaTeK: scheduled for Thursday
[21:51] <talntid> I have an Ubuntu install - Apache is installed and configured as user www-data, and I have a normal user account called "johndoe". I want user "johndoe" to be able to edit things in /var/www/html/websitename ... but if I change the permissions to johndoe, then the web server can't write files there... do I add johndoe to www-user group, or what?
[21:51] <NaTeK> Rad (y)
[21:51] <DuncanT> Building a package, I'm getting a signing problem: "debsign -k3A4BDF45" works and signs the two files, but "fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -k3A4BDF45" reports "gpg: skipped "3A4BDF45": No secret key" and "gpg: dpkg-sign.wToI1HA2/helm_2.1.0-1.dsc: clearsign failed: No secret key"
[21:52] <SlidingHorn> talntid: you could   sudo usermod -a -G www-data username   or just use sudo on a per-change basis
[21:54] <SlidingHorn> talntid: (note that you'll have to log out & back in as that user before it takes effect)
[21:54] <E1ephant> SlidingHorn: I guess just looking to have an install that matches the rest of my install base, using this same repo/docker-ce package everywhere else
[21:54] <E1ephant> not quite sure why this host seems special
[21:54] <E1ephant> no way I can find to even get apt to be more verbose?
[21:56] <Lope> where are the newer backported kernels that I can run on xenial? https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-backports/allpackages
[21:57] <SlidingHorn> E1ephant: are you sure you're using a repo for the correct release?
[21:59] <E1ephant> that I am pretty sure on, afaict it is in fact 16.04 xenial
[21:59] <NaTeK> :D
[22:01] <Jordan_U> kanun:
[22:01] <SlidingHorn> E1ephant: could you pastebin your sources.list file with the repository?
[22:03] <Osmodivs> Hello. I am trying to move f older (with other folders inside) to another location, but I get this error message:  sudo mv Materials/ /opt/pixar/RenderManProServer-21.7/lib/RenderManAssetLibrary
[22:03] <Osmodivs> mv: inter-device move failed: 'Materials/' to '/opt/pixar/RenderManProServer-21.7/lib/RenderManAssetLibrary/Materials'; unable to remove target: Directory not empty
[22:03] <Osmodivs> What am I doing wrong?
[22:03] <Osmodivs> I sed the -R option but gvae
[22:03] <Osmodivs> gave me this: mv: invalid option -- 'R'
[22:03] <Osmodivs> .
[22:03] <NaTeK> mv -R
[22:03] <E1ephant> yeah can do, two momentos
[22:04] <Jordan_U> Osmodivs: First, I would generally recommend against using mv for moving something from one device to another. A cross device move is really two operations, a copy of the data then a deletion of the original. I don't like the automatic removal, and prefer to ensure that the data copied correctly and delete the original myself.
[22:04] <u0_a179> |~_
[22:05] <Osmodivs> Jordan_U, So... You are sugesting cp?
[22:05] <Jordan_U> Osmodivs: The error message is probably because there is at least one file/directory within your original "Materials/" that your user doesn't have permission to *delete*.
[22:05] <NaTeK> ah yes, le sudo
[22:06] <Jordan_U> Osmodivs: Yes, I personally use cp then manually rm the original afterward (only when moving files from one device to another, when not moving from one device to another a move involves no copying at all).
[22:07] <Jordan_U> Osmodivs: The copy portion of your mv command probably did complete successfully, and it's likely that some of the data from the original has already been deleted.
[22:09] <IntelCore> Have 83gb partition I want Ubuntu to include, is that re-size drive?
[22:10] <Jordan_U> IntelCore: I don't understand your question. Would you please try to re-phrase it?
[22:11] <IntelCore> I have 83gb free in a partition, and now I want it to let Ubuntu use that free space
[22:11] <u0_a179> u want ubuntu to include what?
[22:11] <u0_a179> use parted
[22:12] <IntelCore> g parted?
[22:12] <IntelCore> bionic will use a swap file?
[22:12] <Jordan_U> IntelCore: Is your Ubuntu root partition "next to" the partition you want to take space from? Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[22:13] <IntelCore> I can recover the old ?
[22:14] <u0_a179> IntelCore: either gparted or parted...it is the same
[22:14] <Jordan_U> IntelCore: Again I don't understand your question. Your old what? Why does anything need recovering?
[22:14] <u0_a179> just that parted use commandline
[22:14] <u0_a179> i prefer that
[22:16] <IntelCore> I have the free space to add to ubuntu, and wondered IF also the Bionic will be a swap File, allowing me to recover that used old space?
[22:16] <jnewt> how do i mount specific network filesystems automatically on a per group / user basis (probably won't need user).
[22:17] <u0_a179> IntelCore: use gparted to resize your partitions
[22:17] <IntelCore> yes ty
[22:17] <Jordan_U> IntelCore: Before you try to resize anything please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" so that we can tell you if it's even possible to use your free space for Ubuntu with your current configuration.
[22:18] <blazeme8> If i've installed a beta of the Bionic release, will I be able to update my system once the final release is out?
[22:18] <Jordan_U> IntelCore: Are you also planning to upgrade to Ubuntu 18.04? It seems like you're trying to ask more than one question.
[22:19] <sky887> Hello. I am installing ubuntu and I want to make a new partition for it. Which type of partition should it be? I see ext2 fat16 etc. I don't know which to choose
[22:19] <Jordan_U> blazeme8: Yes. For further questions about Bionic please /join #ubuntu+1 .
[22:19] <IntelCore> yes. upgrade and recover the old space
[22:20] <u0_a179> sky887: use ext4
[22:20] <NaTeK> When bionic releases will the update path from beta to stable be relatively easy?
[22:20] <u0_a179> sky887: then intall on /. which is root
[22:21] <ayee> For some reason the hidraw kernel module isn't loaded on the VM I'm running. I can't figure out why. I can see hidraw compile flag was set  to yes, but lsmod doesn't show hidraw. I'm on bionic latest, with the latest updates, etc
[22:21] <Jordan_U> sky887: I would recommend not creating any partitions manually. Allow Ubuntu's installer to do automatic partitioning.
[22:22] <Jordan_U> ayee: For Bionic please /join #ubuntu+1
[22:22] <IntelCore> "could not stat device."
[22:22] <sky887> Jordan_U but I need more space allocated for Windows
[22:22] <ash_work> my launcher sometimes shows separate chromium windows for each instance in a different profile; right now, hangouts is running under say ash_m and this is running in guest
[22:22] <Jordan_U> IntelCore: That was the output you got when you ran exactly "sudo parted -l"?
[22:22] <blazeme8> Jordan_U: thanks!
[22:23] <IntelCore> libparted on a gparted window
[22:23] <IntelCore> ?
[22:23] <u0_a179> sky887: why dont u just migrate to linux for good....
[22:23] <E1ephant> hmmm, rolled a new ubuntu 16.04 host and the guide/repo for docker does appear to be working fine
[22:23] <Jordan_U> sky887: More than what? Last I tried Ubuntu's automatic partitioning allows you to chose how much space you want to keep for Windows.
[22:23] <ash_work> actually if I use the switcher thing in the top left, it combines with another dot... well anyway, I was wondering if there's anyway to achieve my goal of displaying a different icon specifically for the hangouts instance
[22:24] <ash_work> it's quite confusing when window switching
[22:25] <IntelCore> libparted : 3.2
[22:25] <sky887> Jordan_U that doesn't happen to me. The installer doesn't mention allocating disk space for Windows. I am on bionic
[22:26] <IntelCore> resize after installing ubuntu with windows .
[22:26] <Jordan_U> sky887: Please join #ubuntu+1 then.
[22:27] <IntelCore> Then, you end up with (empty) space on your HD. Like I did.
[22:27] <sky887> Ok
[22:28] <E1ephant> using the same exact sources.list, this install can't find the "release" file
[22:28] <E1ephant> https://hastebin.com/aqikuboyih.nginx
[22:28] <Jordan_U> IntelCore: Don't do anything else until you have run "sudo pastebin -l" in a terminal and pastebinned the output. If you need me to walk through how to do that in more detail I'll be happy to.
[22:28] <E1ephant> but I can wget it
[22:29] <IntelCore> ah, Gparted worked !
[22:29] <sky887> Ah maybe my Windows is on ssd. I am unsure though
[22:30] <Jordan_U> IntelCore: I really wish that you would would have followed my directions. Re-partitioning is dangerous. Hopefully you haven't lost any data or the ability to boot from what you have done.
[22:31] <u0_a179> 9
[22:31] <IntelCore> efi, Microsoft reserved, basic data - ntfs, Sda4 - ext4, unallocated 76.8GB, Sda5-linux swap, unallocated 859MiB, ntfs Recovery and 3+MiB unallocated
[22:32] <IntelCore> no nothing yet
[22:32] <sky887> I'll resize the partition within Linux
[22:32] <IntelCore> see it unallocated
[22:32] <Jordan_U> sky887: Again, you are in the wrong channel. Join #ubuntu+1 for Bionic.
[22:32] <sky887> Ok
[22:32] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | IntelCore
[22:33] <IntelCore> ok
[22:33] <sruli> JimBuntu: after reboot most permissions were reset only had to change a few, but to get sudo working i hat to setuid (chmod 4755) for /usr/bin/sudo and internet didnt work had to do the same for /bin/ping
[22:40] <Jordan_U> sruli: Your system is likely insecure from some system files not having the correct permissions, without you realizing it. Just hoping to catch the odd cases like sudo and ping is not a safe strategy, and just because things are "working" doesn't mean they're not broken (insecure).
[22:40] <kus> I have artful and I installed Google Chrome and it was going well except today when I apt upgrade it says google-chrome-stable is held back. Anyone know why? Bionic beaver is not even out yet so 17.04 is latest no? https://hastebin.com/umeradojes.txt sorry if this is the wrong channel
[22:40] <kus> thank you in advance
[22:41] <pragmaticenigma> kus, artful reached end of life support a couple months ago
[22:41] <Jordan_U> kus: 17.10 is the latest stable release of Ubuntu. Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt full-upgrade".
[22:41] <pragmaticenigma> err
[22:42] <Gostrik> Hey I was wondering if anyone had any resources on a problem I'm having. I'm trying to boot to a live usb but I get a black screen with a underscores that's NOT blinking. I can only seem to find people with similar issues that the underscore is blinking and none of the solutions work for me
[22:42] <pragmaticenigma> kus, 17.04 ended support a couple months ago... 17.10 is artful and s currently supported
[22:42] <kus> yeah
[22:42] <IntelCore> paste.ubuntu.com/p/7sGJ3KMTnn/
[22:43] <kus> I am on 17.10 artful
[22:43] <Jordan_U> IntelCore: What is the exact command that you ran?
[22:43] <sruli> Jordan_U: i guess will have to do a reinstall
[22:43] <kus> ah it is doing stuff pragmaticenigma
[22:44] <kus> I think that did it https://hastebin.com/miliduqimo.txt
[22:44] <IntelCore> sudo parted -l
[22:44] <kus> thank you pragmaticenigma Jordan_U
[22:44] <Jordan_U> sruli: That is what I would recommend, unfortunately. You can re-install while preserving /home/ at least (you do *not* need /home/ on a separate partition to re-install preserving /home/).
[22:45] <IntelCore> is it  sudo parted -print
[22:45] <u0_a179> / sudo parted
[22:45] <pragmaticenigma> kus, yes it appears to have updated. Please in the future, use https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ instead. hastebin is very difficult to read
[22:45] <Jordan_U> IntelCore: No, I never said that. I said "sudo parted -l". Please copy / paste if needed to get commands right. Entering the wrong commands can be dangerous.
[22:46] <kus> I am so excited for bionic beaver but I am sad that I will not be able to do the new fancy minimal install :(
[22:46] <u0_a179> IntelCore: just use gparted...they ate
[22:46] <u0_a179> IntelCore: gparted is the grapi
[22:46] <u0_a179> graphical bit of parted
[22:47] <Jordan_U> u0_a179: I don't think that it's a good idea for IntelCore to use GParted without explicit guidance since they are new to Ubuntu and re-partitioning is dangerous and easy to accidentally mess up.
[22:47] <pragmaticenigma> kus, discussion of 18.04 is in #ubuntu+1 ... you might want to check there to see if there is an option for you
[22:47] <IntelCore> paste.ubuntu.com/p/YxWJQyrXjM/
[22:48] <u0_a179> Jordan_U: i dont think gparted is complicated at all
[22:48] <sruli> Jordan_U: preserving home is nice in theory, but by the time you install all the apps and config files are overwritten u might aswell just backup what u need