[14:00] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: how can you say "works fine" when you don't know how to use it ?
[14:00] <Cromag> ikonia: ah ok. thank you for trying :)
[14:00] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: well. It worked fine on installation.
[14:00] <ikonia> Cromag: apologies
[14:00] <Stevethepirate> I.e. it set up bootloader fine.
[14:00] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: thats not what the installation used
[14:00] <Cromag> dont :)
[14:00] <jakbeatz> sorry..  it seems iptables is installed by default on ubunto-server, rather.  Sorry, first msg was incomplete.
[14:00] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Alright, that's ok then.  It does that to me sometimes.  Let me grab skype really quick and install it so I can be a little more helpful.
[14:00] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: okay, in that case.. what did the installer use?
[14:01] <dundel> how do you use tor on xchat but with the gpg key so i can still join #ubuntu
[14:01] <zackie> zionpsyfer___ cool thanks.. it did work abou 30 mins ago
[14:01] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: a set of custom scripts as part of the python install routine
[14:01] <erUSUL> !tor
[14:01] <ubotu> TOR is a project aiming to provide anonymous connections via specialized !proxies - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR for information and help - Note that TOR is blocked on most Ubuntu IRC channels, please see !hostmask and !tor-gpg
[14:01] <Omegacenti> ZionPsyfer blah, went to the compatibility confirmed page on ubuntu website, haven't yet to see a thinkpad :)
[14:01] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: is there no way to repeat that?
[14:01] <Stevethepirate> Or replicate it:
[14:01] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: not that I'm aware of
[14:01] <barnbarn> running udevtrigger causes my machine to kernel panic in fact
[14:01] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: but your welcome to use grub-install or do it manually (takes 2 minutes)
[14:02] <ikonia> barnbarn: are you running it manaully ? or is something invoking it
[14:02] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: Hmmm, I've ran it great on my T23, A31 and R61i.  =P  That's only my experience though.
[14:02] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: thing is.. that I lack internet at home.
[14:02] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: how does that effect what your asking me about grub ?
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> Well, if I need to make any live discs, i've got to do that now..
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> its not like i can pop home, get info i need, return
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> etc
[14:03] <ikonia> well,you'll need something to boot off to repair it no matter what method you chose
[14:03] <Pici> Omegacenti: Check http://thinkwiki.org, Thinkpads tend to support linux quite well.
[14:03] <ikonia> you just need an ubuntu install tv
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> http://forjamari.linex.org/projects/supergrub/
[14:04] <Stevethepirate> you ever used that?
[14:04] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: you don't need supergrub cd's
[14:04] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: just the ubuntu install cd, kubuntu, xububunt, ubuntu-server any current ubuntu cd
[14:04] <Omegacenti> Pici: recommend any others as well? Just so I can broaden my horizons.
[14:05] <ikonia> Omegacenti: they are very version specific, check the specs against the hcl
[14:05] <Stevethepirate> Recovering GRUB Automatically
[14:05] <Stevethepirate> ?
[14:05] <Stevethepirate> Looks good :P
[14:05] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: do what you want
[14:05] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: it's clear you don't want
[14:05] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: clear you don't want someone to help you, as your just doing your own thing any way
[14:06] <Stevethepirate> I have XP installed, I have ubuntu installed. PC Turns on, goes straight to XP, need the simplest solution, as simple as possible.
[14:06] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: boot ubuntu cd - re-install grub - 2 minutes
[14:06] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: what part of that have I not made clear in my discussion with you
[14:06] <DRebellion> !grub | Stevethepirate
[14:06] <ubotu> Stevethepirate: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:08] <porkpie> ikonia:I getting this error when trying to connect into the pptp server PTY read or GRE write failed (pty,gre)=(6,7)
[14:08] <puneesh> having no sound in ubuntu 7.10. tried lspci -v the device is present also set alsamixer. any suggestions?
[14:08] <tof> vous êtes là les fans de l'acer eee ??
[14:09] <tof> oops sorry wrong chanel
[14:09] <DRebellion> !fr | tof
[14:09] <ubotu> tof: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:09] <ikonia> porkpie: no idea, thats not really a lot to go on
[14:09] <Rei-chan> !english
[14:09] <dundel> thx obotu
[14:09] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[14:09] <dundel> !tor
[14:09] <ikonia> DRebellion: he said wrong channel
[14:09] <ubotu> TOR is a project aiming to provide anonymous connections via specialized !proxies - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR for information and help - Note that TOR is blocked on most Ubuntu IRC channels, please see !hostmask and !tor-gpg
[14:09]  * Rei-chan is mainly joking, tof.
[14:09] <ikonia> he knew he was in the wrong channel
[14:09] <DRebellion> !sound | puneesh
[14:09] <ubotu> puneesh: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:10] <zackie> zionpsyfer___ cool thanks.. it did work abou 30 mins ago
[14:10] <h1st0> dundel: ubotu is just a bot.  You can send hit a private message to pick his brain rather than in channel
[14:10] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Alright, I've got it installed.  Can you go into the Main menu for me?  We want to go into the Sound options.
[14:10] <dundel> hehe
[14:10] <user_> Hi
[14:10] <zackie> zionpsyfer___what is the main menu? what part?
[14:10] <diesousil> :p
[14:10] <vbabiy> Hey guys
[14:11] <user_> I am having problem in sound on Ubuntu 7.10.
[14:11] <ZionPsyfer> In the lower left corner of the skype window (the main one where your contacts are shown) there is a little blue circle with an S in it.
[14:11] <xomp> hey folks, is it possible to use Beryl on Gutsy?
[14:11] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i install java 1.5
[14:11] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Click on that and click on options.
[14:11] <Pici> !beryl | xomp
[14:11] <ubotu> xomp: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[14:11] <Jay-Oh-En> j21.5?
[14:11] <Jay-Oh-En> !java 1.5
[14:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java 1.5 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:11] <Jay-Oh-En> !java1.5
[14:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java1.5 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:12] <sandr-> !java | Jay-Oh-En
[14:12] <ubotu> Jay-Oh-En: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[14:12] <Rei-chan> Beaten. :(
[14:12] <zackie> zionpsyfer___click on what???
[14:12] <h1st0> xomp: yes
[14:12] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: In the lower left corner of the skype window (the main one where your contacts are shown) there is a little blue circle with an S in it.
[14:12] <user_> After some searching I solved the initial problem of Sound Server error. No the problem is I am getting sound when I am startin banshee/rythmbox but when I play the next song banshee/rythmbox freezes. No sound
[14:12] <Jay-Oh-En> sandr-, thats not what i need i need java 1.5 all they got in the repos is 1.4
[14:12] <h1st0> xomp: I don't know why you wouldn't want to sue compizfusion though.
[14:12] <vlt> Maybe I'm looking for two programs: One for the slides/videos part and one for playing back the audio tracks, but which I can control while the presentation program is in full screen mode ... Any idea?
[14:12] <xomp> h1st0: compizfusion easy to find for ubuntu?
[14:13] <h1st0> xomp: its already installed if you are running gutsy
[14:13] <ikonia> xomp: it's already installed on 7.10
[14:13] <zackie> zionpsyfer__ In options on Skype
[14:13] <xomp> nice :D
[14:13] <h1st0> xomp: you just need to configure it.
[14:13] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Alright towards the bottom, you will see Sound Devices.  Click on that.
[14:13] <sandr-> Jay-Oh-En: isn't that java6 now ?
[14:13] <xomp> I saw a video on youtube about vista and beryl and wanted it something fierce on this box lol. Anyway I can access all the neat stuff it has?
[14:13] <user_> I have done  sudo chmod 666 /dev/dsp
[14:13] <h1st0> xomp: to get it to look how you want.  Just system > preferences > appearence
[14:13] <xomp> since it's already installed
[14:13] <zackie> zionpsyfer____Okay...
[14:13] <ikonia> xomp: sure
[14:14] <Jay-Oh-En> i dont know i have java 6 was for web
[14:14] <user_> zackie: was that for me?
[14:14] <sandr-> Jay-Oh-En: and you need the sdk?
[14:14] <neko_> aptana user around ?
[14:14] <h1st0> xomp: yes basically I usually install compizconfig-settings-manager  which is then accessible through the appearence settings.
[14:14] <h1st0> xomp: it just allows an easier control of all the plugins etc...
[14:14] <zackie> user___ no? lol
[14:14] <xomp> awesome, thanks so much :)
[14:14] <sandr-> neko_: sometimes... basic usage
[14:14] <plutarcus> hi all
[14:15] <neko_> you have it keep working with the last updates ?
[14:15] <Jay-Oh-En> sandr-, ill check it out
[14:15] <zackie> zionpsyfer____I have Sound Devices up....
[14:15] <neko_> sandr ?
[14:15] <plutarcus> i'm having a trouble with virtualbox
[14:15] <user_> Ubuntu sound problem. Help please
[14:15] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: There is a button that says 'Make a test call' .  Click on that and follow the instructions.  Talk into your mic after the beep.  It will play back what it heard.  If you can't hear yourself, uncheck the check box that says 'Allow Skype to automatically adjust my mixer levels'
[14:15] <plutarcus> some one can help me?
[14:15] <user_> After some searching I solved the initial problem of Sound Server error. No the problem is I am getting sound when I am startin banshee/rythmbox but when I play the next song banshee/rythmbox freezes. No sound
[14:15] <sandr-> hehe no :) I allways got that 'updates available' but it doenst start the update ..
[14:15] <dundel> plutarcus: check also #vbox
[14:15] <stf> Hi. Running feisty I think. When I do Ctrl+Alt+F1 I get a black screen instead of a virtual terminal. What's going on?
[14:15] <plutarcus> VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel and execute '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv start' as root.
[14:15] <plutarcus> VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED).
[14:15] <plutarcus> Codice&nbspd'uscita:
[14:15] <plutarcus> 0x80004005
[14:15] <plutarcus> Componente:
[14:15] <plutarcus> Console
[14:15] <FloodBot1> plutarcus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:15] <neko_> i mean the ubuntu updates
[14:15] <neko_> sandr
[14:16] <neko_> i have installed the last ubuntu updates then now aptana won't start
[14:16] <sandr-> you can't update ubuntu due to aptana or what? :s
[14:16] <neko_> nope
[14:16] <robertj_> is vmware-server working on hardy?
[14:16] <neko_> i can update ubuntu
[14:17] <ikonia> !aptana > ikonia
[14:17] <cliebow> anyone else get megaraid errors..in gutsy?
[14:17] <rosewater> set autoindent was the answert
[14:17] <ikonia> what is aptana ?
[14:17] <neko_> things i did this morning as usual when i see the update manager
[14:17] <zackie> zionpsyfer____okay i made a test call and enabled "Allow Skype to automatically adjust my miex levels"
[14:17] <neko_> then after the last installation of this updates
[14:17] <sandr-> neko_: Aptana Studio, build: <IP_ADDRESS>323 ; Ubuntu up to date : everything working
[14:17] <Pici> ikonia: Its something built on top of Eclipse.
[14:17] <neko_> aptana won't start
[14:17] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: could you hear yourself when it played the call back?
[14:17] <ikonia> Pici: thanks
[14:17] <neko_> that's strange
[14:17] <BoltClock> ikonia: aptana is an IDE for web development http://www.aptana.com, and as Pici said, built on eclipse
[14:17] <plutarcus> ok, now this is my problem when i try to start a virtual machine in virtualbox: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52410/
[14:17] <Sonjaaa> i often get green blobs when watching a video. how do i make sure i have all the best codecs?
[14:17] <Omegacenti> ikonia, by any chance do you know of a link to ubuntus compatability list? I think I am looking in the wrong place.
[14:18] <ikonia> neko_: start it manually and see what it says
[14:18] <ikonia> !hcl | Omegacenti
[14:18] <ubotu> Omegacenti: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[14:18] <BoltClock> Pici: i havent yet managed to find a solution to my problem in the forums... i only found a thread whose starter ended up using envy
[14:18] <ikonia> Omegacenti: basiclly just look a "linux compatible" websites
[14:18] <fx|RabBit> hi all! i just inserted a new 500gig hdd into my ubuntu pc but i dont see it anywhere and i neither find any menu to initalize it in administration or poreferences, what am i supposed to do?
[14:18] <neko_> "The program '' received an X Window System error" etc...
[14:18] <Pici> BoltClock: You can try using it, but if it doesnt work, we dont support it.
[14:18] <plutarcus> someone can help me?
[14:18] <neko_> as the last updates was about xorg
[14:19] <BoltClock> Pici: doesn't work, if it did i wouldnt have asked for anymore help :P
[14:19] <zackie> zionpsyfer____didn't hear my voice....
[14:19] <BoltClock> Pici: looks like im on my own? ><
[14:19] <neko_> it seem the last xorg update bring some problems with aptana :(
[14:19] <fx|RabBit> how do i initalize a new hdd?
[14:19] <dreven> is there a program that allows merging of partitions ?
[14:19] <Pici> BoltClock: Try asking the channel some more, be patient :)
[14:19] <DRebellion> fx|RabBit: is it in /dev? if so just enter it into /etc/fstab i think
[14:19] <fx|RabBit> dreven, yes lvm == logical volume manager
[14:19] <maarten_> need someone who has experience installing shroudbnc on ubuntu
[14:19] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Alright, do you see the little speaker icon up next to your clock in the upper right part of your screen?  double click on it.
[14:20] <dreven> is lvm the name of the package in synaptic?
[14:20] <zackie> zionpsyfer___ yess
[14:20] <neko_> is there a way to downgrade some package ?
[14:20] <fx|RabBit> DRebellion: thx ill have a look...
[14:20] <BoltClock> Pici: ok... ive been here since 6 or something :/
[14:20] <h1st0> neko_: remove it and see if you have an older version in cache
[14:20] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: After your volume control is up, look and see if your Mic is on there.
[14:20] <ikonia> maarten_: what are yo looking for
[14:20] <fx|RabBit> DRebellion: is there no easier way to initialize a hdd in linux but via fstab and co??
[14:20] <maarten_> how to install it
[14:21] <ikonia> dreven: lvm is a volume manager
[14:21] <h1st0> neko_: /var/cache/apt
[14:21] <ikonia> maarten_: how to start what ?
[14:21] <DRebellion> fx|RabBit: i don't know
[14:21] <neko_> arg h1st0 i have clean it recently
[14:21] <fx|RabBit> no gui like in windows?
[14:21] <maarten_> an shroudbnc server
[14:21] <fx|RabBit> cant be it
[14:21] <navlop> has anyone use ispconfig with ubuntu server pckg?
[14:21] <zackie> zionpsyfer___all the mic's are up all line in are up all capture are up
[14:21] <ikonia> shroudbnc server, never heard of that
[14:21] <h1st0> neko_: hrm.. what package are you trying to downgrade and why?
[14:21] <ikonia> navlop: no sorry
[14:21] <neko_> xorg
[14:21] <neko_> the last updates
[14:21] <ikonia> neko_: xorg is intalled by default
[14:21] <eckesicle> !suspend
[14:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:21] <ikonia> neko_: if you want to update "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[14:21] <Gringo_> neko: don't tell me it broke for you too?
[14:21] <Gringo_> i just came here in search for help
[14:22] <eckesicle> !hibernate
[14:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:22] <h1st0> neko_: what broke?
[14:22] <neko_> bug with aptana ide
[14:22] <neko_> no more working
[14:22] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: in the top portion of the volume control window, click on the Edit menu and click on Preferences.
[14:22] <BoltClock> Pici: im still on gutsy, still low gfx mode. just an fyi
[14:22] <ikonia> neko_: yes, I got that, start it manually from the command line and see what it gives you
[14:22] <neko_> it says it receive X window System error
[14:22] <neko_> BadAlloc ....
[14:22] <ikonia> neko_: and thats it ?
[14:22] <neko_> etc ...
[14:22] <zackie> zionpsyfer___ Okay
[14:22] <neko_> yep
[14:22] <navlop> what does someone use with Ubuntu server as a gui frontend
[14:23] <ikonia> neko_: please pastebin the full error (etc etc is no use)
[14:23] <ikonia> navlop: some server apps need a gui
[14:23] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Make sure all the Mics are checked.  Mine shows two.  Are there any that weren't checked?
[14:23] <neko_> okey ikonia
[14:23] <h1st0> navlop: I don't use a GUI on my server.  But if you want to install one there are many options.
[14:23] <neko_> i don't remember url of a pastebin
[14:23] <dreven> does lvm dynamically link the partitions or actually merge them? EIther way would be good
[14:23] <ikonia> !pastebin | neko_
[14:23] <h1st0> !paste > neko_
[14:23] <navlop> ikonia: everyone tells me to use ebox, tried it crashed server need to restart...
[14:23] <ubotu> neko_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:23] <BoltClock> Pici: wait, i have another problem too with sound, perhaps i could try solving it right now... so anyway i cant hear a thing but im not too sure of my sound card and hardware
[14:24] <neko_> thansk
[14:24] <deeeed> hi
[14:24] <h1st0> navlop: so you want a full fledged gui?
[14:24] <h1st0> navlop: or just controls for the server like webmin or something?
[14:24] <neko_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52413/
[14:24] <Pici> !sound > BoltClock (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:24] <neko_> here the full output
[14:24] <zackie> zionpsyfer___ Nahr.. there wasn't
[14:24] <navlop> yeah like webmin, was using it but keep getting errors
[14:24] <maiG6etab002> any other that have problems with games tun in fullscreen, sometimes change to show in a window instead (while you play) ?
[14:24] <maiG6etab002> (and after a while go back to fullscreen again), for example tuxracer or supertux
[14:25] <h1st0> navlop: I would just google webmin alternatives
[14:25] <navlop> hlst0: yeah like webmin, was using it but keep getting errors
[14:25] <Pici> !ebox | navlop
[14:25] <ubotu> navlop: ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[14:25] <ikonia> neko_: what video card do you have
[14:25] <neko_> i 810
[14:25] <maiG6etab002> *run not tun :)
[14:25] <stf> Hi. When I do Ctrl+Alt+F1 I get a black screen instead of a virtual terminal. What's going on?
[14:25] <ikonia> neko_: ok thanks
[14:25] <BoltClock> Pici: double-clicking doesnt even let me access anything, it just spits two errors and does nothing else
[14:25] <Seveas> stf, do you use vga=xxx kernel parameters?
[14:26] <navlop> Pici, followed it step by step, and guess what back to step 1, re-install server...lol
[14:26] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Darn, I'm running out of stuff to check!  Ok, in your main volume control window, there are no red X's down below the volumes?  The mic has no volume control or mute switch on the actual mic itself?
[14:26] <neko_> wait
[14:26] <stf> Seveas: yes
[14:26] <neko_> ikonia
[14:26] <Seveas> stf, don't
[14:26] <ikonia> neko_: oh ?
[14:26] <neko_> that's a i945gm
[14:26] <solomon> i've got a set of packages that i installed from an archive other than xubuntu, and i would like xubuntu's update manager to ignore them.  using 'aptitude hold' has no effect -- is there anything i can do?
[14:26] <ikonia> neko_: thank you
[14:26] <Seveas> stf, or use ones that work :)
[14:26] <navlop> Pici: followed it step by step, and guess what back to step 1, re-install server...lol
[14:26] <zackie> zionpsyfer___ yeah its all a go.. but hey bruddah let me restart maybe that shall help?
[14:26] <h1st0> stf: frame buffer is messed up in gutsy.
[14:26] <Rev_> anyone know why lib6-i386 , get delete every few mins?!
[14:26] <stf> Seveas: hm, thanks
[14:26] <BoltClock> Pici: now spits one error: "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[14:26] <deeeed> hmm I'm having problems with the last Xorg update, it totally killed my eclipse installation ( http://rafb.net/p/pywcfz63.html ). I don't know yet if there are problems with other applications.. How can i rollback to previous xorg package ? :p
[14:26] <stf> h1st0: feisty here, I think
[14:27] <neko_> same
[14:27] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: It may. =)  Worth a shot at this point.
[14:27] <neko_> deeeed
[14:27] <neko_> i have just the same problam
[14:27] <h1st0> stf: well if you are using feisty then it should be working.  Unless you are using a vga code that is wrong.
[14:27] <Tilllinux> whythehack doesn't openoffice export the file to pdf with quotes? (" ")
[14:27] <zackie> zionpsyfer__brb okay?
[14:27] <Rev_> Anyone think there is a VIRUS for ubuntu?!
[14:27] <stf> h1st0: vga=791
[14:27] <neko_> with aptana which is just an eclipse mod
[14:27] <BoltClock> ill look at the wiki for info
[14:27] <DRebellion> !virus | Rev_
[14:27] <navlop> hlst0: will ispconfig be just as good as webmin
[14:27] <ubotu> Rev_: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[14:27] <h1st0> stf: try a lower color mode.
[14:27] <ikonia> Rev_: no - there isn't
[14:27] <deeeed> neko_, any idea to solve the problem ?
[14:27] <stf> h1st0: k
[14:27] <neko_> not right now
[14:27] <h1st0> navlop: no idea never used.  some other have suggested ebox.
[14:28] <neko_> but i was about thinking also about rolling back
[14:28] <ikonia> neko_: just bare with me I'm just crapping some updates to do some testing
[14:28] <Rev_> lol  , then why i am havin a problem with libc6-i386 (evey few mins its removed)
[14:28] <deeeed> That's a big problem as I'm at work and i can't work without eclipse :s
[14:28] <h1st0> !virus > Rev_,   Rev_ Read the private message from ubotu.
[14:28] <ikonia> Rev_: it's removed ?
[14:28] <neko_> same deeeed
[14:28] <Rev_> yeah
[14:28] <neko_> that was a really bad idea to update
[14:28] <Rev_> well , in Synipatic its their , but when i start firefox or wine or getlibs it say its not their
[14:29] <neko_> next time i will update thing in the end of the work week
[14:29] <azlon> what do i need to do when i try to install an app and i get the error: The package might be corrupted or you are not allowed to open the file. Check file permissions. (im pretty sure the file isnt corrupt
[14:29] <h1st0> neko_: if there are bugs with one of the updates i'm sure it will be fixed soon.
[14:29] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: I'll be here.
[14:29] <Rev_> hlst0 , i am blocking everyone pms (they need to ask before they pm_
[14:29] <deeeed> neko_, same... no update at work........
[14:29] <shredder> deeeed: look here for the solution 		        <include name="*.ddl"/>
[14:29] <shredder> aaagh.
[14:29] <shredder> deeeed: look here for the solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671020&highlight=eclipse
[14:29] <deeeed> shredder, ah thanks
[14:30] <h1st0> Rev_: okay well ubotu is a bot that was providing you with an answer to your question.
[14:30] <shredder> I was just glad I was not alone with that problem :)
[14:30] <neko_> shredder !
[14:30] <neko_> ALLELUYA !
[14:30] <neko_> thanks a lot
[14:30] <xomp> h1st0: that configuration manager bit works a treat, thanks!
[14:30] <xomp> now all I need is a nice kicker for gnome and I'll be set lol
[14:30] <Rev_> Anyway , but anyone know why i am haivng a problem with libc6-i376?
[14:30] <zackie_> psyfer or somethign you ther???[][][][][][][
[14:31] <h1st0> xomp: I think a lot of people use awn or something.  Look on the forums in the desktop effects section.  They're always discussing things like that.
[14:31] <deeeed> shredder, thanks ;) I restart x to test ;)
[14:31] <xomp> awesome :) Thanks h1st0
[14:31] <neko_> restarting aswell
[14:32] <zackie_> IF YOU WERE HELPIGN ME Please contact[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
[14:32] <tt_> Could anyone tell me if there is a way to REINSTALL all the lib32? (as i accenteelly copied /lib64 into /lib32)
[14:32] <shredder> not my solutions though, W.McL on the forum is the real helper.
[14:32] <DRebellion> !caps | zackie_
[14:32] <ubotu> zackie_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[14:32] <ikonia> ##!guidelines > zackie_
[14:32] <ikonia> !guidelines > zackie_
[14:33] <ikonia> zackie_: please read the guideline urls sent to you from ubotu
[14:33] <h1st0> tt_: well remove the lib64 and reinstall the package
[14:33] <zackie_> ikonia___there was a Chap that was helping me just trying to get his/her attention....
[14:33] <ikonia> zackie_: your going about it in a very bad way. Please read the guidelines
[14:33] <tt_> the problem i dont know all the lib64
[14:33] <ZionPsyfer> zackie_: I was the one helping you.
[14:34] <h1st0> tt_: dpkg can show you packages currently installed
[14:34] <deeeed> shredder,  yep it works ! ;)
[14:34] <tt_> Zion : i think its too late to ask for yout thanks :P
[14:34] <zackie_> zionpsyfer__sorry for all of that.. bad lam memroy i have.. mental isuuse i have heh.
[14:34] <tt_> hist0: i am only trying to find lib32 pkgs
[14:34] <ZionPsyfer> zackie_: Did that help at all?  does a test call let you hear yourself?
[14:35] <h1st0> tt_: dpkg -l | grep 32
[14:35] <tt_> thanks :)
[14:35] <h1st0> tt_: dpkg -l | grep lib32
[14:35] <zackie_> zionpsyfer___ doingit now
[14:35] <tt_> thanks again
[14:35] <h1st0> tt_: or something similiar i'm not quite sure what you are looking for.
[14:35] <h1st0> tt_: then you can just sudo apt-get reinstall <packagename>
[14:36] <tt_> thanks again , i allready know how to reinstall programs
[14:36] <azlon> where can i find drivers for my webcam?
[14:36] <erUSUL> !webcam
[14:36] <azlon> is there a resource database somewhere?
[14:36] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[14:36] <Lartza_> canät get dvd drive work. it doesn't open. in the middle of the boot (before grub) it opened when i pushed the opening button
[14:37] <ikonia> Lartza_: does it have a disc in ?
[14:37] <Lartza_> no, can't get one in because it won't open
[14:37] <ikonia> Lartza_: try "sudo ejet cdrom"
[14:37] <NigeyUK> or find a very thin sewing needle :)
[14:37] <erUSUL> Lartza_: sudo eject /dev/dvd
[14:38] <compwiz18> I think sudo eject works too
[14:38] <Lartza_> sudo eject cdrom ejects my other drive
[14:38] <erUSUL> Lartza_: or whichever the dev file it is
[14:38] <zackie_> zionpsyfer___ I heard meh own voice trying it out with a live user... brbiab (be right back in a bit)****
[14:38] <compwiz18> ah
[14:38] <h1st0> You shouldn't need sudo for an eject
[14:38] <ZionPsyfer> zackie_: Alright, and good luck with it it.
[14:39] <Lartza_> none worked or i don't know the dev name
[14:39] <compwiz18> h1st0: you're right -- didn't think about that
[14:39] <h1st0> Lartza_: just type eject
[14:39] <Lartza_> sudo eject cdrw
[14:39] <Lartza_> woops
[14:39] <h1st0> Lartza_: no sudo
[14:39] <partypants> Hi, I am brand new to Ubuntu, and I am having trouble with a wireless network driver for an HP530 notebook. Could anyone offer me some advice?
[14:39] <Lartza_> that should be on terminal :P
[14:40] <NigeyUK> ls /dev |grep dvd does it show anything ?
[14:40] <h1st0> !wifi > partypants,   partypants Read the private message from ubotu.
[14:40] <Lartza_> eject opens my burnind cd drive
[14:40] <Lartza_> not the dvd
[14:40] <partypants> will do
[14:40] <h1st0> Lartza_: is there a cd in it right now?
[14:40] <Lartza_> no
[14:40] <Lartza_> neither has
[14:40] <h1st0> Lartza_: eject /dev/dvd
[14:41] <Lartza_> no device dvd
[14:41] <h1st0> Lartza_: eject /dev/dvdrw
[14:41] <Lartza_> in dvd
[14:41] <ZionPsyfer> partypants: Try these two links:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=502833&highlight=hp+530   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-489559.html
[14:41] <Lartza_> its not burning dvd and still didnt work
[14:41] <ZionPsyfer> partypants: They look like they're along the lines of what you're looking for.
[14:41] <cyzie> where does firefox store the flash file?
[14:42] <Lartza_> is there way to see if that device is even running?
[14:42] <h1st0> Lartza_: if there is no media in it its not running
[14:42] <NigeyUK> Lartza_, try eject -n and paste the output here
[14:42] <Lartza_> eject: device is "/dev/hdc"
[14:43] <zackie_> zionpsyfer___ they can sort of hear me but i'm really quiet they say...
[14:43] <yabuk> I'm trying to use sound in blender, but it don't works here in my ubuntu, it just works in Rwindows. I get Error: libGL.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, does anyone here know how to fix it?
[14:43] <BoltClock> could anyone help me with my graphics card driver problems? i have an onboard nvidia geforce7100 card, just installed gutsy a few hours ago and then the proprietary driver. now ubuntu cant start unless its in low gfx mode
[14:43] <spite> Anyone have pulse + jack + wine working?
[14:44] <spite> on 64bit gutsy
[14:44] <Lartza_> eject
[14:44] <Lartza_> sorru
[14:44] <Lartza_> please help me on this
[14:44] <Lartza_> how to get dvd drive working?
[14:44] <ZionPsyfer> zackie_: So it's a volume thing.  Double check the volume control by your clock.  I'll double check skype for volume controls though I didn't see any besides the 'allow skype to adjust my mixer levels' checkbox. You may want to try toggling that to see if it helps.
[14:45] <h1st0> Lartza_: so the button on the dvd drive doesn't work?
[14:45] <Lartza_> no
[14:45] <Lartza_> and yes
[14:45] <h1st0> ?
[14:45] <jrattner1> Question: Why when I run a command with sudo do I get this error: sudo: unable to lookup dovertubular.com via gethostbyname()
[14:45] <spite> Is ther ea disc in the drive?
[14:45] <Lartza_> it opened when i pushed button before grub
[14:46] <Lartza_> then i closed it logged in and nothing happens from button
[14:46] <h1st0> Lartza_: is there a cd in it?
[14:46] <tt_> Isn't their any web browser thats not using lib32 ? (I'd like to get things working and i can't because i cant use firefox or any others)
[14:46] <Lartza_> no
[14:46] <stf> Seveas: thanks, removing vga=791 worked.
[14:46] <spite> Is that the only disc drive in the PC?
[14:46] <Lartza_> spite: no
[14:46] <karl> any one know how to set my HDD to power down on gutsy server?  It never powers down except on reboot and the counts from SMART reflect that.  My BIOS is set to power it down after 20 min.
[14:47] <spite> They both show up in the computer window?
[14:47] <Lartza_> spite: where?
[14:47] <spite> Places -> Computer I think it is
[14:48] <Lartza_> running xubuntu so can't get to one i think
[14:48] <spite> If you're running gnome anyway
[14:48] <spite> ah
[14:48] <spite> look in /media
[14:48] <Lartza_> i still got to computer
[14:48] <kane77> can I generate text from directory hierarchy? something like list of hierarchy...
[14:48] <Lartza_> found it from xubuntu
[14:48] <palvarez> hello
[14:48] <spite> Can you right click and click eject?
[14:49] <Lartza_> only in my wriing cd drive
[14:49] <spite> kane find . > file ?
[14:49] <spite> But you see both of them there?
[14:49] <Lartza_> it show another drive named CD 1 and it can't be ejected
[14:49] <zackie> okay okay hit me up to who was helping me?[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]][][][][]][][]
[14:49] <palvarez> I got a problem with desktop effects, it makes my windows have no borders
[14:50] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: I was.
[14:50] <kane77> spite, thanx. that'll work..
[14:50] <Rei-chan> Why does zackie have []s at the end of is sentiences?
[14:50] <capricorn2812> what command logout gnome session?
[14:50] <spite> Lartza_ what kind of drive is it? DVD, DVD-RW?
[14:50] <Lartza_> dvd
[14:50] <Lartza_> i can see the properties window too
[14:50] <spite> Does ubuntu need to set scsi emulation on dvd drives in grub? I'm not too familiar with ubuntu yet
[14:51] <jrattner1> Question: Why when I run a command with sudo do I get this error: sudo: unable to lookup dovertubular.com via gethostbyname()
[14:51] <Pici> jrattner1: Did you recently change your hostname?
[14:51] <DRebellion> jrattner1: which command?
[14:51] <Pici> !hostname | jrattner1
[14:51] <ubotu> jrattner1: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[14:51] <jrattner1> Pici, i dont think so...but i was messing around with some stuff recently
[14:51] <Lartza_> it shows properties but not information about drive manufacturer etc.
[14:51] <spite> Lartza does all that show up in BIOS?
[14:51] <Pici> jrattner1: Double check the settings ubotu mentioned above.
[14:52] <jrattner1> Pici, thanks brb
[14:52] <spite> also dnsdomainname
[14:52] <maarten_> can someone tell me if http://irc-guide.de/wiki/Main/ShroudBNCInstallation is possible? i can't do make it gives make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[14:52] <BoltClock> could anyone else help me with my graphics card driver problems? i have an onboard nvidia geforce7100 card, just installed gutsy a few hours ago and then the proprietary driver. now ubuntu cant start unless its in low gfx mode.
[14:52] <jrattner1> Pici, they do not match do you recomend I use the GUI to remedy this issue
[14:52] <spite> maarten_ ls |grep Makefile
[14:52] <spite> do you see a make file?
[14:53] <spite> and did ./configure work?
[14:53] <porkpie> guy's can you tell me if this mean ppp_mppe is enabled http://pastebin.com/m7a6e73ab
[14:53] <maarten_> yes
[14:53] <Pici> jrattner1: If you have it installed, sure.  If not, you may need to boot from a live-cd and modify those files.
[14:53] <maarten_> ./configure worked
[14:53] <maarten_> but the make didn't
[14:53] <spite> It instantly complained about no targets/
[14:53] <spite> or did it compile something before
[14:53] <dgjones> BoltClock, not sure how much I can help, but can you put a copy of your xorg.conf file into pastebin? Maybe something in that will jump out
[14:53] <maarten_> instantly
[14:53] <spite> Look around and try to find a Makefile in the directory structure
[14:54] <karl> where can i set my hdd power down setttings?  the bios settings dont seem to have an effect, is the OS periodically touching the hdd?
[14:54] <BoltClock> oh hi again dgjones :) ill do that now
[14:54] <spite> and look at your configure output for errors
[14:54] <spite> sounds like it didn't generate the Makefile
[14:54] <jrattner1> Pichu0102, when I type hostname i get back: dovertubular.com  but in /etc/hosts I see this line: <IP_ADDRESS>       DoverTubular.lan        DoverTubular....should i just change the DoverTubular at the end to dovertubular.com?
[14:54] <maarten_> there is a makefile.in
[14:54] <maarten_> in the main folder
[14:54] <Pici> jrattner1: yes.
[14:55] <jrattner1> Pici thank you
[14:55] <Lartza_> does ubuntu need scsi emulation for dvd drives?
[14:55] <frojnd> How can I get the nane of computer's IP <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[14:55] <cE_cRi_tMn> dddsd
[14:55] <jrattner1> Pici, should I change DoverTubular.lan to dovertubular.lan aswell?
[14:55] <spite> check you rconfigure output again for errors
[14:55] <cE_cRi_tMn> hihihihihihihi'
[14:55] <cE_cRi_tMn> tonk diajar ngentot nya
[14:55] <Pici> jrattner1: dns names are not case-sensitive.
[14:55] <spite> jrattner1 I don't think hostnames are case sensitive in linux
[14:55] <cE_cRi_tMn> soalna bakalan beki goblok pek
[14:55] <erUSUL> Lartza_: no afaics
[14:55] <Pici> !id | cE_cRi_tMn
[14:55] <ubotu> cE_cRi_tMn: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[14:55] <cE_cRi_tMn> jid
[14:56] <Jay-Oh-En> every time i try to remove java5 it gives me a error
[14:56] <bazhang> hi cE_cRi_tMn this is an english channel
[14:56] <cE_cRi_tMn> kumaha
[14:56] <jrattner1> Pici, thanks for the help I appreciate it...im gonna reboot
[14:56] <maarten_> weird the makefile is in place, however it Make is not working
[14:56] <jrattner1> spite, thanks as well
[14:56] <cE_cRi_tMn> abditeh sunda asli
[14:56] <spite> No problem
[14:56] <Pici> cE_cRi_tMn: Only english here.
[14:56] <cE_cRi_tMn> naon maksudna
[14:56] <spite> maarten_ Makefile not makefile.in
[14:56] <bazhang> uh oh
[14:56] <cE_cRi_tMn> oh sorry
[14:56] <Lartza_> :( still can't get the drive work
[14:56] <cyzie> where does firefox store the flash file?
[14:56] <Pici> Ooops, too slow.
[14:57] <Pici> cyzie: What flash file?
[14:57] <spite> This channel is too fast for me
[14:57] <maarten_> nope just the file makefile.in
[14:57] <maarten_> no others
[14:57] <karl> my computer speaker randomly beeps.  which logs should i check for messages?
[14:57] <erUSUL> Lartza_: post your dmesg to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[14:57] <spite> look in scripts/
[14:57] <frojnd> ok, how can I check what connections are opend for <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[14:57] <Pici> frojnd: netstat -tanp | grep <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:57] <erUSUL> frojnd: netstat -putan | grep <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:58] <DENTiST> selam
[14:58] <maarten_> no makefile
[14:58] <Jay-Oh-En> i installed java from java.com and now i cant remove any of the javas and it gives me an error
[14:58] <zackie> Again who was it ? {}{}{}}{}{}{}{}{}{}{][][][][][}{}{}{}?
[14:59] <simion314> can someone help me me build install a driver? i have the instructions but the directory structure from the instructions do not match  the ubuntu structure, i am afraid of breaking the system
[14:59] <Lartza_> erUSUL: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52421/
[14:59] <spite> So I'm checking up on shroudbnc, the configure does create the makefile
[14:59] <spite> there must be errors in there
[14:59] <h1st0> simion314: what driver are you trying to biuld?
[15:00] <erUSUL> zackie: the point is what the *** is this i quote  « {}{}{}}{}{}{}{}{}{}{][][][][][}{}{}{}? » ???
[15:00] <twans> who do I complain to about flash 9 being broken in linux.. still ?
[15:00] <spite> What's broken?
[15:00] <BoltClock> dgjones: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52422
[15:00] <ikonia> twans: no-one
[15:00] <simion314> h1st0: for my sound card
[15:00] <spite> oh the package?
[15:00] <Pici> !flashissues | twans
[15:00] <ubotu> twans: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[15:00] <LjL> twans: not us ;)
[15:00] <ikonia> twans: it is a known bug and being resolved
[15:00] <dgjones> BoltClock, i'll have a look now
[15:00] <spite> it was easy enough to get working from those instructions
[15:00] <twans> thanks fellers
[15:00] <spite> Any of you guys running an M-Audio soundcard?
[15:01] <spite> Like the audiophile
[15:01] <erUSUL> Lartza_: sudo eject /dev/hdc failed? error msg?
[15:01] <fismoll8> hey all
[15:01] <fismoll8> trying to install geany 0.12 from source
[15:01] <fismoll8> when I run ./configure, I get checking for GTK... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6.0) were not met:
[15:01] <fismoll8> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[15:01] <fismoll8> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[15:01] <fismoll8> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[15:01] <maarten_> i think i found the problem error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[15:02] <maarten_> how to solve this one?
[15:02] <h1st0> fismoll8: install build-essentials
[15:02] <lui_G> !de
[15:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:02] <Lartza_> erUSUL: no erro, opens my cdrw drive
[15:02] <fismoll8> h1st0: I already did
[15:02] <fismoll8> would it make sense to remove it then reinstall
[15:02] <h1st0> fismoll8: what version of gtk do you have?
[15:02] <cyzie> Pici, some game file
[15:02] <fismoll8> I use gutsy, so 2.0+ is embedded in it
[15:02] <Pici> cyzie: I think firefox stores its temp files in /tmp/
[15:03] <cyzie> Pici, i search though
[15:03] <cyzie> none found
[15:03] <BoltClock> dgjones: is it normal that those wacom component sections are there? i dont own a wacom tablet
[15:03] <B-rabbit> hi everybody :)
[15:03] <dgjones> BoltClock, yes, mine i think it almost always includes wacom whether you've got one or not
[15:03] <spite> Usually a touchpad too if I'm not mistaken
[15:04] <erUSUL> Lartza_: that's the only drive i see recognized on the dmesg. Are you sure the dvd is well plugged (ide and power)
[15:04] <h1st0> fismoll8: you know geany is in the repos right?
[15:04] <BoltClock> dgjones: ok. so is there anything significant about my xorg.conf?
[15:04] <spite> And jumpers are set and BIOS recognizes it fine
[15:04] <simion314> h1st0: here are the instructions but the /usr/src/linux do not exists, are other 2 folders and no sound folder in /usr/src/linux..headers/drivers http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52419/
[15:04] <Lartza_> not 100% sure
[15:04] <spite> Make it work in BIOS before linux
[15:04] <erUSUL> Lartza_: hda and hdb are hard disk the only optical drive is hdc: PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1610A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[15:04] <h1st0> simion314: /usr/src/linux is usually just a symlink
[15:04] <erUSUL> Lartza_: so the other drive is not detected for some reason
[15:04] <Forsakensoul> how do i install the restricted codecs ...
[15:04] <Forsakensoul> ?
[15:04] <Lartza_> BUT
[15:04] <h1st0> simion314: what are you trying to build?
[15:05] <DRebellion> !restricted | Forsakensoul
[15:05] <ubotu> Forsakensoul: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:05] <Lartza_> if they both are under hdc
[15:05] <Lartza_> plextor isn't dvd
[15:05] <spite> Lartza_ Did you just buy/install the drive?
[15:05] <Kakarotto> why when i type hda: and then press <enter> i can't change to that drive?
[15:05] <spite> Check the jumpers
[15:05] <simion314> h1st0: a sound driver
[15:05] <dgjones> BoltClock, are you using the restricted driver?, i remember that was mentioned, and I can see that you're using the "nv" driver rather than the "nvidia" which I'd have expected for the restricted driver
[15:05] <komputes> how do you avoid a machine making a hardware beep?
[15:05] <GottesDiener> hi, how can I under Gnome resize window with Alt + right-Mouse-click + move like kde? anybody have an idea?
[15:05] <spite> Kakarotto http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html
[15:06] <DRebellion> Kakarotto: i suppose the way in windows would be c:, d: etc. however linux uses a different filesystem where everything is contained under /
[15:06] <dgjones> BoltClock, also, what make is your monitor, do you know what the specifications of it are?
[15:06] <Lartza_> spite: just installed
[15:06] <partypants> I think I found the right driver for this wireless card, but I have no idea how to install it.
[15:06] <BoltClock> yes, im using the restricted driver listed by ubuntu
[15:06] <twans> komputes: unplug the speaker thats connected to the mobo ;D
[15:06] <BoltClock> what do you mean by make?
[15:06] <komputes> everytime i press tab in the terminal and i made a mistake i get a loud hardware beep, any way to tell it to software beep,....
[15:06] <spite> Lartza_ double check the jumpers, connect the drive, go into BIOS and see if it's listed
[15:06] <BoltClock> and what specs should i mention?
[15:06] <erawfish> komputes: there are no driveletters under linux
[15:06] <omri> anyone have idea after sometime icant see video only green lines and if i restart xserver it works?
[15:06] <erawfish> and you can't use devicefiles as normal dirctories either
[15:06] <erawfish> Kakarotto: ^^
[15:06] <komputes> twans: thats not an option, it is needed for recovery mode
[15:06] <dgjones> BoltClock, the manufacturer and model number, I want to look at what the HorizSync and VertRefresh settings should be
[15:07] <erawfish> komputes: beep where exactly?
[15:07] <Kakarotto> DRebellion,spite: i'm sorry i was joking, thanks! :P..
[15:07] <erUSUL> Lartza_: only one drive for each device file and viceversa
[15:07] <spite> also http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/dirs.html
[15:07] <Kakarotto> erawfish: hi
[15:07] <AudioGarf> Hi! I cannot remove a broken package, even if I do a sudo dpkg -P --force-all 'package'
[15:07] <spite> haha
[15:07] <spite> I'm trying to keep up in here
[15:07] <komputes> erawfish: drive letters? what did I say about drive letters? I'm talking about audio!
[15:07] <Kakarotto> what time is it ?
[15:07] <h1st0> simion314: are you sure someone hasn't already built the driver?
[15:07] <Lartza_> jow is my cdrw ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive then?
[15:07] <BoltClock> dgjones: i only know LG made it
[15:07] <tzd> does anyone know if it's possible for uTorrent to write to ext3 hdds? I'm using it via wine?
[15:07] <Lartza_> how not jow
[15:07] <spite> tzd yes
[15:07] <partypants> Does anyone have step-by-step instructions of how to properly install a driver?
[15:07] <DRebellion> Fri Jan 18 15:07:59 GMT 2008
[15:08] <tzd> spite: great thanks!
[15:08] <spite> If its mounted in the host and you have permissions you can browse to it
[15:08] <h1st0> AudioGarf: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename
[15:08] <spite> At least for most wine apps that's the case
[15:08] <erawfish> partypants: depends very much on the driver and type of hardware
[15:08] <twans> komputes: type xset b off in a terminal window
[15:08] <twans> it'll turn the bell off.
[15:08] <spite> You could also symlink in your wine drive directory out to another and use that
[15:08] <Kakarotto> GottesDiener: as far as I remember, with compiz you just can
[15:08] <partypants> Would you maybe be able to get me started on it?
[15:08] <simion314> h1st0: no, but the driver from ubuntu hangs my computer after a time
[15:08] <ikonia> tzd nope, unless you use a windows ext2 driver
[15:08] <Kakarotto> GottesDiener: indeed I'm able to resize with alt right now
[15:08] <spite> ;o
[15:08] <BoltClock> dgjones: my store receipt says LG L226WTQ-BF 22" WIDE
[15:08] <komputes> erawfish: you know the small speaker integrated or connected to most motherboards, thats the hardware beep, it's very limited but loud to tell you theres an error
[15:08] <spite> ikonia he's running it in wine
[15:08] <Kakarotto> GottesDiener: I mean.. alt for move, middle-button for resizing
[15:09] <h1st0> simion314: hrm.. I would just search the forums for your card I'm sure someone has resolved it.
[15:09] <ikonia> spite: oooh, I thought he said vm
[15:09] <GottesDiener> Kakarotto, I use compiz, but where can I configure this?
[15:09] <tzd> ikonia: huuh lifesaver there, almost one my way to format my old ntfs drive :D
[15:09] <komputes> twans "xset b off" you say?
[15:09] <NigeyUK> komputes,  just disable it in the audio mixer :)
[15:09] <BoltClock> dgjones: WIDESCREEN LCD DVI*
[15:09] <h1st0> simion314: and will be able to provide better direction
[15:09] <BoltClock> there you go
[15:09] <AudioGarf> h1st0: doesn't work: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[15:09] <NigeyUK> disable / mute
[15:09] <Lartza_> erUSUL: where should my jumper be?
[15:09] <tzd> ikonia: opsie, got it :)
[15:09] <GottesDiener> Kakarotto, rightt :)
[15:09] <Kakarotto> komputes: you know a lot of years ago there was a program that was able to play music in the "beep" speaker...
[15:09] <komputes> NigeyUK: Whats it called in the mixer/audio settings?
[15:09] <h1st0> Lartza_: in between the ide cable and power cable.
[15:09] <twans> komputes: yes- that is correct if you're in an X session already. If you're in console mode instead type: setterm -blength 0
[15:09] <NigeyUK> pc speaker
[15:09] <GottesDiener> Kakarotto, I never tried with the middle button :)
[15:09] <komputes> Kakarotto: 8 bit music, lovely
[15:09] <h1st0> Lartza_: on the back of the dvd drive.
[15:10] <Kakarotto> GottesDiener: dit it work? :P
[15:10] <GottesDiener> Kakarotto, yes thanks
[15:10] <h1st0> Lartza_: if you just installed it you can only have one masterand one slave on a cable.
[15:10] <simion314> h1st0: thx
[15:10] <Lartza_> not taht way, when i should put master and when slave?
[15:10] <h1st0> AudioGarf: is this a third party package?
[15:10] <AudioGarf> yep
[15:10] <GottesDiener> Kakarotto, can i change this under compiz?
[15:10] <tzd> spite: so if i have rss enabled downloads in uTorrent that saves to dir X on my old NTFS drive... Is it just to specify (inside uTorrent) a new folder on an ext3 partition?
[15:10] <Kakarotto> komputes: it sounded very slow and very bad quality, but it was listenable, and I'm talking of 1995 nearby
[15:10] <h1st0> Lartza_: what else is on the ide cable?
[15:10] <erUSUL> Lartza_: you have the two optical drives on the same ide cable? if so check that both have their jumpers set to cable select or that one is master and the other slave
[15:10] <AudioGarf> h1st0: yes it is
[15:10] <dasdajs> hi, is there a working guide for ventrilo 3.0 on ubuntu?
[15:11] <Lartza_> cable select is recommended?
[15:11] <erUSUL> Lartza_: also check power connectors etc
[15:11] <komputes> Kakarotto: reminiscing is fun ain't it
[15:11] <NigeyUK> didnt the C64 use the internal speaker ?
[15:11] <Kakarotto> GottesDiener: get to the compiz manager and then look at the windows section
[15:11] <GottesDiener> Kakarotto, cuz I have a scroll buttona nd it's not so comfartable to resize windows with it
[15:11] <h1st0> AudioGarf: you may have to ask the package mantainer then .
[15:11] <GottesDiener> Kakarotto, thanks bru ;)
[15:11] <Lartza_> is gets power
[15:11] <Lartza_> not sure if fully but enough to open
[15:11] <h1st0> dasdajs: the client?
[15:11] <AudioGarf> h1st0: ok, I will
[15:11] <dasdajs> h1st0 yes
[15:11] <Lartza_> it opened before grub was loaded
[15:11] <h1st0> Lartza_: its probably a jumper issue if you just installed it.
[15:11] <xobius> Anybody have installed ubuntu 7.10 in MSI  P6NGM with Nvidia Gforce MCP73 chipset?
[15:11] <erUSUL> Lartza_: also as other said check if they are recogniced in the bios
[15:11] <h1st0> dasdajs: check appdb.windhq.org
[15:12] <erawfish> Kakarotto: I know what speaker and beep you mean
[15:12] <erawfish> komputes:
[15:12] <erawfish> but I asked something else
[15:12] <Kakarotto> GottesDiener: me too, but isn't that bad anyway
[15:12] <h1st0> !anybody | xobius
[15:12] <ubotu> xobius: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[15:12] <Kakarotto> komputes: did you know the program I say?
[15:12] <dasdajs> h1st0 wrong link? :S
[15:12] <dgjones> BoltClock, right, that part looks ok, did you install the restricted driver? with it saying you're using "nv", that would suggest that you're not using it
[15:12] <h1st0> dasdajs: appdb.wine-hq.org
[15:12] <dasdajs> oke :)
[15:13] <BoltClock> dgjones: the restricted driver is enabled right now
[15:13] <komputes> NigeyUK: twans : erawfish : Kakarotto : Do you know how to do turn off the beep mini-speaker in the GUI through the audio mixer?
[15:13] <h1st0> dasdajs: and search for the app you are trying to get working.  I don't think ventrillo has a linux client so you have to use wine.
[15:13] <h1st0> komputes: mute the pc speaker
[15:13] <komputes> I can do command line but some people are just lost when the see text only
[15:13] <twans> komputes: yeah but why do it the easy way? :)
[15:13] <BoltClock> dgjones: theres a whole lot of xorg.conf files i see here, some suffixed with 1, 2, 3, 4 and some with date/timestamp-like numbers
[15:13] <dgjones> BoltClock, that seems strange, I thought that for the restricted to work, it should be using the "nvidia" driver, not the "nv" one
[15:14] <dgjones> BoltClock, they're just older version I would think
[15:14] <komputes> h1st0: muting the speaker doesn't allow sound to come out, i need audio i don't need anoying loud hw beeps
[15:14] <komputes> twans: not for me, for the *upid ppl
[15:14] <xobius> I can't run ubuntu on Nvidia Gforce MCP73. It can't start X server
[15:14] <h1st0> komputes: ?
[15:14] <omri> i think they're the xork drivers the nv
[15:14] <komputes> h1st0: never mind
[15:14] <BoltClock> dgjones: what do you think i should do?
[15:14] <h1st0> komputes: so you're sound isn't working then?
[15:14] <DRebellion> xobius: any error messages?
[15:15] <omri> xorg*
[15:15] <komputes> h1st0: my sound is fine, certain apps call on the hardware beep which is anoying and loud
[15:15] <dgjones> BoltClock, give me a minute, which graphics card is it? nvidia 7 something
[15:15] <h1st0> !nvidia > xobius,   xobius Read the private message from ubotu.
[15:15] <partypants> I have an hp530 notebook, the wireless card is an Intel 3945ABG, and I am pretty sure I have downloaded the correct driver. I am new to this and the readme says something about editing the kernal, but it isn't step-by-step on how to do that. If anyone could help get me started I would very much appreciate it.
[15:15] <BoltClock> dgjones: geforce7100
[15:15] <h1st0> komputes: okay and if you mute the pc speaker you won't have those beeps
[15:15] <erawfish> komputes: WHICH apps?
[15:15] <bazhang> partypants: using gutsy?
[15:15] <BoltClock> 7100, this numbers completely in my head now
[15:15] <komputes> h1st0: you do know there a difference between your sound card/audio controller and the hardware beep which is a 8-bit limited speaker on the motherboard...
[15:16] <partypants> bazhang: yes
[15:16] <xobius> !nvidia
[15:16] <h1st0> komputes: yes
[15:16] <maiG6etab002> h1st0: about mute the pc speaker btw.... are there any way to tell ubuntu to play a nice wav-file (or other soundfile) with the normal speakers instead of beeping with builtin pc speaker?
[15:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:16] <erawfish> BoltClock: and what driver do you use?
[15:16] <h1st0> komputes: but do what you want don'[t listen
[15:16] <komputes> erawfish: terminal mostly when pressing tab on something that doesn't exist for example()
[15:16] <dgjones> BoltClock, ok, is there  a version as well, I can see a mention of a 7100GS
[15:16] <komputes> h1st0: I don't want the hardware beep
[15:16] <BoltClock> wait hold on - why is it disabled AGAIN?!
[15:16] <h1st0> komputes: Yeah I understand.
[15:16] <h1st0> komputes: you need to mute the pc speaker
[15:17] <partypants> komputes: desolder your MB speaker... lols
[15:17] <ro7761> komputes: sudo rmmod pcspkr
[15:17] <h1st0> komputes: not your speakers or soundcard
[15:17] <komputes> h1st0: now that i know how to turn it off in command line i was asking about turning it off graphically, for "simplified" users
[15:17] <twans> h1st0: he most likely doesn't have the option to mute PC Speaker in his mixer application
[15:17] <h1st0> komputes: double click the little speaker by the clock
[15:17] <komputes> partypants: lols indeed
[15:17] <shredder> partypants: why don't you just apt-get install the restricted modules?
[15:17] <h1st0> komputes: mute the pc speaker
[15:17] <twans> it's better to set it as a variable anyway
[15:17] <Xteven_> hi, any graphviz users around ? or maybe a channel ?
[15:17] <BoltClock> i enabled, restarted ubuntu, ubuntu prints five lines, blinks the screen three times, decides that it has to start in low gfx mode... and i think it goes on to disable the driver again
[15:17] <partypants> shredder: restricted modules?
[15:18] <twans> h1st0: not everyone uses gnome/kde or windows lawl
[15:18] <xobius> DRebellion, lspci did't reconized what card is
[15:18] <h1st0> twans: he's asking for the noob way to do it using his gui.
[15:18] <h1st0> twans: komputes and that would be using the mixer
[15:18] <shredder> partypants: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[15:18] <BoltClock> dgjones: i dont think theres a GS anywhere
[15:18] <h1st0> twans: komputes or he can use alsamixer
[15:18] <shredder> this includes the intel wireless driver
[15:18] <erawfish> BoltClock: what lines? what are the logs saying?
[15:18] <partypants> ok I will try that
[15:18] <partypants> thanks
[15:19] <komputes> h1st0: PC speaker muted works, thanks...
[15:19] <BoltClock> erawfish: it refreshes too fast for me to take note of the lines... and how do i get to the logs?
[15:19] <maiG6etab002> komputes, if you don't want the hardware beep, I dont think muting it helps. but you can set it to not beep at all under Sound-settings
[15:19] <Lr5_> Anyone knows if there's any way to make sound in youtube videos louder?
[15:19] <maiG6etab002> or blink screen instad
[15:19] <Lr5_> Using the nonfree flash
[15:19] <kalet> hi
[15:20] <erawfish> BoltClock: by checking your Xorg.0.log
[15:20] <komputes> maiG6etab002: what is sound settings? you mean "System>preferences>Sound"?
[15:20] <BoltClock> erawfish: where do i find it? im in /etc/X11/
[15:20] <komputes> NigeyUK: twans : erawfish : Kakarotto : h1st0 : Thanks for all your help
[15:20] <partypants> shredder: E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules
[15:21] <BoltClock> erawfish: i remember that three of the five lines were 1) something about anacron 2) Checking battery state... [OK] 3) Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [OK]
[15:21] <maiG6etab002> komputes: yes, in the the last tab
[15:22] <dgjones> erawfish, just adding a bit of info, BoltClock's xorg is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52422/ running a nvidia 7100 with restricted drivers, but xorg shows "nv" as the driver, Nvidia says that the 7100GS is supported using the 100.14.11 driver
[15:22] <komputes> maiG6etab002: thanks, got it
[15:23] <partypants> Why would the linux-restricted-modules not be found?
[15:23] <maiG6etab002> komputes:  now I only wish it was possible to have all beeps translated to a nice "pling" or "kvack" instead
[15:23] <fx|RabBit> where do i have to mount a second hard disk to so that i see it in nautilus like roms and floppes?

[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> partypants: You may not have the right sources enabled
[15:23] <kalet> whats brasilian iin the room
[15:23] <mexle> allo
[15:24] <omri> is there an option to revert nvidia drivers to an older version that was installed before?
[15:24] <shredder> partypants: hmmm if using 7.10 don't you have System->Administration->Restricted Drivers Manager?
[15:24] <fx|RabBit> where do i have to mount a second hard disk to so that i see it in nautilus like ROMs and floppies?
[15:24] <komputes> maiG6etab002: it does for me, if you mute the PC Speaker in the mixer settings. I take it pling or kvak are just custom wav/pcm file
[15:24] <mexle> bin wider da
[15:24] <partypants> shredder: yes i see that
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !br
[15:24] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[15:25] <fx|RabBit> where do i have to mount a second hard disk to, so that i see it in filebrowser like ROMs and floppies?
[15:25] <partypants> shredder: it seems to show the proper driver in there too.
[15:25] <komputes> fx|RabBit: tempotatily you can use /mnt or you can mount it like the system does by creating a dir in /media and mounting it there
[15:25] <partypants> and says it's in use
[15:25] <shredder> partypants: you can't enable it?
[15:25] <partypants> it is enabled
[15:26] <fx|RabBit> komputes: i mounted it to /media/RAID biut i dont see it in nautilus
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: What do you mean sees it like roms or floppies..
[15:26] <dfas> hi all I have a php script that does a shell_exec('bin/sh mysh.sh') it does work when I execute php -q phpscript.php from CLI but it does not work when I call this script on apache from a webbrowser any ideas ? I did a chmod a+x mysh.sh
[15:26] <partypants> I'm going to try using the wifi again
[15:26] <komputes> fx|RabBit: what line did you use to mount is
[15:26] <maiG6etab002> komputes, hmm where do I set what wav/pcm file to play as default beep?
[15:26] <bazhang> partypants: that is the best supported card around today
[15:26] <komputes> fx|RabBit: what line did you use to mount it
[15:26] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: in nautilus you see your ROMs and NETworkdrives and so on in the left window part...
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: If properly mounted in /media there should be an icon on your desktop as well
[15:27] <komputes> maiG6etab002: in the advanced sound setting i believe
[15:27] <fx|RabBit> komputes: i added it to fstab and mountet it by mount /dev/sdb1
[15:27] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: i  dont have that one either
[15:27] <maiG6etab002> ok... I look there... must restart now.....
[15:27] <partypants> bazhang: Well perhaps I'm stupid or something, and it isn't a driver issue.
[15:27] <komputes> if it's in fstab just do a "mount -a"
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Did you create the mount point
[15:27] <fx|RabBit> yes
[15:27] <bazhang> partypants: not at all; getting wireless going can be a challenge at first
[15:28] <fx|RabBit> the disk is there in /media/RAID i can access it its just not there in nautilus and desktop
[15:28] <maiG6etab002> anyone here now that have a clue about fullscreen games jumps to window-mode and back just by itself?
[15:28] <partypants> How would I do the equivilent of ipconfig?
[15:28] <omri> how do i rollback a driver for an older version please?
[15:28] <Pici> partypants: ifconfig
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: please pastebin your fstab for others to review.. and provide us with only the link for it
[15:28] <bazhang> ifconfig partypants
[15:28] <partypants> thanks
[15:28] <komputes> fx|RabBit: otherwise do it manually: mkdir /media/mydisk;mount /dev/yourdevicehere /media/mydisk
[15:28] <partypants> and is there a hot key for the terminal?
[15:28] <bazhang> and iwconfig to set the parameters partypants
[15:28] <BoltClock> dgjones, erawfish: figured anything out yet?
[15:28] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: just a sec pls...
[15:28] <h1st0> partypants: ifocnfig
[15:29] <h1st0> partypants: ifconfig sry for the typo
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> komputes: Thanks for looking after him/them
[15:29] <partypants> no problem
[15:29] <partypants> thanks for being helpful everyone
[15:29] <h1st0> partypants: you can make a hotkey under system > preferences
[15:29] <fx|RabBit> komputes: as i said it is basically there it just dont shows...
[15:30] <h1st0> partypants: or you can hit ctrl+alt+f1 through f6 to get to terminals ctrl+alt+f7 will bring you back to gui
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> partypants: you mean something like ctrl-alt F2
[15:30] <dgjones> BoltClock, I can't think of anything else, seems like there has been a problem with that card, and the solutions aren't good ones to do
[15:30] <bazhang> partypants: you can sudo dhclient if your card sees the AP
[15:30] <komputes> fx|RabBit: what type of partition is it?
[15:30] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: here we go
[15:30] <fx|RabBit> http://www.nopaste.org/p/a0wfPSmWb
[15:30] <fx|RabBit> ext3 primary one
[15:31] <TheLynx> heh. when choosing subpixel smoothing in system -> preferences -> appearance. the red fonts gets almost unreadable in a terminal window. guess grayscale smoothing is better
[15:31] <Lartza_> how can i see ubuntu bootlog?
[15:31] <fx|RabBit> komputes: ext3 primaryone
[15:31] <Lartza_> or is there one?
[15:31] <komputes> fx|RabBit: what type of file system is the one you are trying to mount?
[15:31] <fx|RabBit> komputes:  as i said ext3
[15:31] <bkar> Lartza_-> typically logs are in /var/log
[15:31] <BoltClock> dgjones: yeah ive read on the forums about lots of people having problems with nvidia 7100 cards ><
[15:31] <maiG6etab002> another question before I leave.... when forcing nvidia 3d drivers to go live without reboot, I had to copy a .ko -file and run some commands before pressing ctrl-alt-backspace, are there similiar things that have to be done with ATI 3d graphics?
[15:31] <dgjones> BoltClock, You might get a better response in here now as the day is going on and there's more people in the US online, maybe keep asking every so often, Nvidia is normally straight forward sertting up, so I don't know why this one is such a pain
[15:32] <Lartza_> but what is bootlog?
[15:32] <komputes> maiG6etab002: system->preferences->sound i think if you replace the error sound you can customize it to whatever
[15:32] <komputes> Jack_Sparrow: gtg, brb can you look after <fx|RabBit>
[15:32] <Lartza_> where i can see what ubuntu does in boot after grub loads it
[15:32] <BoltClock> dgjones: 1266 people in room, a few hours ago around 1200... its 11:30 pm here in Singapore :)
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: The question I have is.. Is it a raid or is that just the name.
[15:32] <h1st0> Lartza_: dmesg
[15:32] <h1st0> Lartza_: dmesg | more
[15:32] <patogen> I wonder if there is a way to get openbox to handle open applications like Amiga did? That it puts icons on the desktop instead of a taskbar ...
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> komputes: Will do...  thanks
[15:33] <h1st0> Lartza_: or you can hit alt+f1 while its booting to see
[15:33] <Lartza_> Oh! dmesg
[15:33] <bkar> Lartza_-> did you even visited the directory i suggested?
[15:33] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: oh sry :D no it will be a RAID one day, atm its just a single disk
[15:33] <Lartza_> yes
[15:33] <bkar> !response| Lartza_
[15:33] <ubotu> Lartza_: response is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[15:33] <bkar> !respond | Lartza_
[15:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about respond - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:34] <erawfish> BoltClock: why do you expect to run nvidia when yourg xorg.conf says nv?
[15:34] <BoltClock> erawfish: o.o?
[15:34] <maiG6etab002> btw, is it possible to turn of the booting-progressbar-graphics completly? so I allways see the text
[15:34] <BoltClock> here the driver has been disabled again and i dont know why
[15:34] <dgjones> BoltClock, I'd still give it another try and see if anybody can help, if not have a rest overnight and try again tomorrow
[15:34] <patogen> maiG6etab002: Yes. Wait a sec and I'll find the settings
[15:35] <erawfish> BoltClock: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52422/ at line 65 clearly says "nv"
[15:35] <h1st0> Lartza_: actually that may not be it
[15:35] <patogen> If you use grub (standard) it's /etc/grub something you should edit
[15:35] <BoltClock> dgjones: im going pretty late
[15:35] <BoltClock> erawfish: i noticed
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: That looks ok.. but I am just waking up.. two things I would check is the mount point ..in caps and your sudo fdisk -l
[15:35] <Lartza_> dmesg? i noticed that some eror messages were missin on dmesg
[15:35] <partypants> Hmm, my wireless says it is connected 99% strength, but it is showing 6700 reception errors and climbing.
[15:35] <erawfish> BoltClock: then how about fixing it?
[15:35] <dgjones> BoltClock, another thing I've just noticed is that there's no screen display settings in your xorg.conf
[15:36] <partypants> And I cannot access the web.
[15:36] <h1st0> Lartza_: yeah you have to enable bootlogd
[15:36] <BoltClock> erawfish: fixing?
[15:36] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: right away, mom pls...
[15:36] <erawfish> dgjones: it will use read-edid and use what's approriate probably
[15:36] <h1st0> Lartza_: sudo gedit /etc/default/bootlogd
[15:36] <erawfish> BoltClock: yes fixing. actually using the nvidia driver
[15:36] <BoltClock> dgjones: you mean no Display subsection under Screen section? it used to be there until i sought help here
[15:36] <Lartza_> i dont have bootlogd installed
[15:36] <h1st0> Lartza_: and change the line BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=No to BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes
[15:37] <h1st0> Lartza_: then you can restart and check the /var/log/boot file
[15:37] <pkundu> in my laptop SMART is giving error at boot time. how do scan for hdd errors from ubuntu
[15:37] <dgjones> erawfish, i'd just never seen one without any settings
[15:37] <BoltClock> erawfish: i turn the driver on, restart ubuntu, those five lines appear again, i check back here and the driver is off again
[15:37] <dgjones> BoltClock, thats what I meant
[15:37] <erawfish> dgjones: newer X runs without xorg.conf
[15:37] <h1st0> Lartza_: its installed by default
[15:37] <h1st0> Lartza_: just not running
[15:37] <erawfish> BoltClock: WHAT lines?
[15:37] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: fdisck -l looks proper:
[15:37] <fx|RabBit> http://www.nopaste.org/p/aGkZfdXOpb
[15:37] <dgjones> erawfish, right, I'll have to look at mine on this laptop, something i hadn't seen before
[15:37] <Lartza_> so i dont need to install sysvinit
[15:38] <asc> Can anybody explain why running "su asc -c xinit &" returns "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting."  but "su asc -c xinit" does work?
[15:38] <Lartza_> how do i get my dvd drive work?
[15:38] <Lartza_> freezes on ubuntu boot
[15:38] <h1st0> Lartza_: did you just install this drive?
[15:38] <Lartza_> yes
[15:38] <BoltClock> erawfish: i cant find Xorg.0.log, you told me to look in there
[15:38] <ZionPsyfer> pkundu:  try the smartmontools package
[15:38] <h1st0> Lartza_: then you need to fix the jumpers on the back of it.
[15:38] <h1st0> Lartza_: what else is on the ide cable for the dvd drive?
[15:38] <BoltClock> erawfish: i know there was one about anacron and another about boot scripts
[15:38] <somestupidnewbie> When i open a window, it opens at what appears to be (0,0) which is behind my launch bar. How can I alter that?
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Agreed
[15:39] <Lartza_> i have jumper on right
[15:39] <pkundu> ZionPsyfer, thanks
[15:39] <Lartza_> i mean direction right
[15:39] <h1st0> Lartza_: what else is on the same cable?
[15:39] <Lartza_> not opposite of wrong
[15:39] <Lartza_> umm...
[15:39] <h1st0> Lartza_: the same ide cable the grey one.
[15:39] <Lartza_> one burning cd drive
[15:40] <ZionPsyfer> pkundu: np.  the command to use will be 'smartctl' the man page is pretty short and sweet.  -a /dev/drive will most likely be all you need.
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: What does it show if you simply type mount in terminal
[15:40] <Lartza_> im not sure about the cdrw's jumper
[15:40] <BoltClock> erawfish: let me restart ubuntu again and ill take note of the lines that it prints when starting
[15:40] <BoltClock> brb
[15:40] <sumaiwa> DE QUE TRATA SU TEMA
[15:40] <h1st0> Lartza_: okay well check the jumper on the cd drive and see if its set for master slave or cable select
[15:40] <Lartza_> cables from power are on way
[15:40] <hanophix33> i cannot enable my desktop effects
[15:40] <Lartza_> lemme get a flashlight
[15:40] <steff> steff
[15:41] <snowbird> i have  a modem  trouble
[15:41] <Lartza_> bot are on right
[15:41] <hanophix33> my video card is using a generic vesa driver
[15:41] <VSpike> Lartza_: try unplugging the other drive and if it wil boot
[15:41] <h1st0> Lartza_: well being on the right doesn't really help me much
[15:41] <h1st0> VSpike: thats not his problem.
[15:41] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: can it be that i have to chmod that /media/raid dir???
[15:41] <Lartza_> ive heard right is usually cable select
[15:41] <snowbird> i  cant   query modem
[15:41] <h1st0> Lartza_: Well there are stickers on top of the drives that should have a diagram of which position is what.
[15:42] <Lartza_> not in this
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: You can try gksudo nautilus
[15:42] <Lartza_> some doesnt have
[15:42] <h1st0> Lartza_: then they will have text by the jumper saying like MA SL CS
[15:42] <somestupidnewbie> where can i alter the default location of a new window
[15:42] <hanophix33> can someone help me with enabling desktop effects?
[15:42] <Lartza_> sticker but no jumper info on it
[15:42] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: sec pls
[15:42] <partypants> Ok, so now it keeps asking me for the encryption key, and I know I am typing in the right one, the only thing I'm not sure about is if it should be set to shared key or open system, but I have tried both and neither work...
[15:42] <h1st0> Lartza_: You basically need one drive as master and one as slave or both as cable select.  Then your system will work fine.
[15:43] <somestupidnewbie> hanophix33: you will need your video cards unsupported drivers
[15:43] <h1st0> Lartza_: then it has text by the jumper pins themselves it has to be marked
[15:43] <somestupidnewbie> hanophix33: unsupported as in not by ubuntu
[15:43] <h1st0> Lartza_: most drives from factory are set as slave.
[15:43] <Lartza_> i found CSM and SLA
[15:43] <hanophix33> somestupidnewbie: okay, how do i get those
[15:43] <Lartza_> on the metal
[15:43] <Lartza_> on top of each other
[15:43] <h1st0> Lartza_: okay cs is cable select M is master and SL is slave
[15:43] <bazhang> partypants: this is via the gui? wpa I'm guessing
[15:44] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: with gksudo nautilus i dont see any drives at all -.-
[15:44] <partypants> 64bit hex
[15:44] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: not even the ROMs
[15:44] <Lartza_> it's an used driver so i dont know how it was on factory :(
[15:44] <somestupidnewbie> hanophix33: is there a expansion card in the top right of your launch bar
[15:44] <partypants> yes gui
[15:44] <Lartza_> but they are written like:
[15:44] <Lartza_> CSM
[15:44] <hanophix33> no
[15:44] <Lartza_> SLA
[15:44] <Lartza_> on different rows
[15:44] <somestupidnewbie> go to system > restriced drivers manager
[15:44] <somestupidnewbie> system > admin >
[15:44] <h1st0> Lartza_: yes
[15:45] <h1st0> Lartza_: CS is the left position would be cable select
[15:45] <hanophix33> somestupidnewbie: software modem driver is the only one thats restricted
[15:45] <Lartza_> ok
[15:45] <h1st0> Lartza_: SL is the middle would be slave and MA is master
[15:45] <Lartza_> OH!
[15:45] <h1st0> Lartza_: read it like columns
[15:45] <Lartza_> i readed i like CSMSLA
[15:46] <somestupidnewbie> see if the manu's website has the drivers for d/l
[15:46] <Lartza_> so need o adjust
[15:46] <somestupidnewbie> some have them in a neat little rpm
[15:46] <Lartza_> and check waht jumper position on cdrw is
[15:46] <kalet> <conectar
[15:46] <h1st0> Lartza_: Now look at the other drive.
[15:46] <SleepingSloth> hi all - i need to put my processors under 199% load (to test temps) - can anyone suggest a tool for doing that?
[15:46] <h1st0> Lartza_: then you can adjust the dvd acordingly
[15:46] <Lartza_> should i put both cable select or what?
[15:46] <partypants> bazhang: Yeah in the gui, I am using 64bit hex encryption
[15:46] <SleepingSloth> *100% load even
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Exit out of that..
[15:46] <h1st0> Lartza_: you can or one master one slave
[15:46] <LjL> !info cpuburn | SleepingSloth
[15:46] <ubotu> sleepingsloth: cpuburn: a collection of programs to put heavy load on CPU. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4-25 (gutsy), package size 14 kB, installed size 116 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 hurd-i386 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Hold for a sec...
[15:47] <SleepingSloth> thanks
[15:47] <Lartza_> the other one has sticker so need to get the other out
[15:47] <bazhang> partypants: this is wep, wpa, wpa2 which one
[15:47] <Lartza_> going to shut down
[15:47] <partypants> wep
[15:47] <Lartza_> cya
[15:47] <h1st0> Lartza_: k good luck
[15:47] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: ok:]
[15:47] <h1st0> partypants: why don't you use the network manager applet?
[15:47] <profanephobia> how can i find out whats using my ram as cache?
[15:48] <partypants> h1st0: where is that located? sorry if that is a stupid question.
[15:48] <bazhang> partypants: may as well leave it open then; wep is very insecure--a better bet would be wpa2
[15:48] <h1st0> partypants: are you using gnome?
[15:48] <partypants> h1st0: gutsy
[15:49] <bazhang> heh
[15:49] <somestupidnewbie> hehe
[15:49] <h1st0> bazhang: wep is still good for stoping the neighbors laptops etc.. from just using your network.
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Thinking it is permissions on that drive... Ljl .. Does this look right     sudo mkdir /RAID/$USER && sudo chown $USER:$USER /RAID/$USER && sudo chmod u+rwx /RAID/$USER
[15:49] <h1st0> partypants: click the little picture of two computers by the clock.
[15:49] <BoltClock> erawfish: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52434 (im not sure that the first line is exactly like that)
[15:49] <partypants> bazhang: i'm not to worried about hackers, just blocking the casual user
[15:49] <h1st0> partypants: yeah then wep is fine.
[15:49] <bazhang> h1st0: perhaps your neighbors :} mine had it cracked in no time
[15:50] <h1st0> bazhang: yeah its easy to crack wep no doubt but most people dont know how.
[15:50] <tdn> I have an Ubuntu 7.10 installation on my machine that I would like to transform into an Ubuntu Server 7.10. Which packages do I remove/purge?
[15:50] <h1st0> bazhang: he is stop the casual users.
[15:50] <jarle> Is it possible to have mplayer stream a video from a samba-share that is not mounted in the filesystem? If I browse my shares in konqueror and then try to play it with mplayer, konqueror will try to copy the whole file before playing...
[15:50] <bazhang> h1st0: true; my bad
[15:50] <erawfish> h1st0: most people don't know how to crack ROT13 either. doesn't mean it's usable in any way as encryption
[15:50] <ZionPsyfer> h1st0: MAC filtering is usually easier for stopping the casual users though.
[15:50] <partypants> I don't know how to crack web, but that would be nice to know
[15:50] <erawfish> WEP is utterly broken and a waste of CPU cycles
[15:51] <partypants> wep*
[15:51] <h1st0> ZionPsyfer: bazhang erawfish does your mom know how to crack wep?  Nuff said.
[15:51] <bazhang> h1st0: huh? I just said 'my bad'
[15:51] <ZionPsyfer> h1st0: Nope, and that wasn't my argument. wep is more of a pain to configure.
[15:51] <erawfish> h1st0: as I said: she doesn't know how to crack ROT13 either. please read and don't talk snakeoil
[15:52] <twans> wep is easiest to configure rofl
[15:52] <Pici> !offtopic
[15:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:52] <h1st0> Well this is all offtopic anyhow.
[15:52] <ZionPsyfer> twans: Easier than mac filering?
[15:52] <partypants> h1st0: so i click on that and it shows wireless networks that are available, but I tried mannually configuring it and nothing has worked so far.
[15:52] <wed> hola a todos de donde son
[15:52] <bazhang> partypants: can you set the router?
[15:52] <twans> ZionPsyfer: it's less steps to enable at least. haha
[15:52] <h1st0> partypants: you can click on one of the wireless networks to join.
[15:52] <Pici> !es  | wed
[15:52] <ubotu> wed: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:52] <bazhang> wed hi
[15:52] <erawfish> partypants: what encrypton if any does your AP use?
[15:52] <partypants> bazhang: set to what?
[15:53] <ZionPsyfer> twans: Less than one that mac requires?  How do you figure?
[15:53] <BoltClock> erawfish: first i see the progress bar, then ubuntu prints those five lines. the screen blackens and displays those lines, repeats blinking another time, then ubuntu tells me it has to run in low gfx mode
[15:53] <partypants> h1st0: and I tried to join mine, but no luck
[15:53] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow, shouldn't have to make a directory of its own i think...? it just ought to have the correct permissions in /media, unless there something i've missed. is it not ext3? if it's not, then it may need to be mounted with some options
[15:53] <partypants> others around me are encrypted too
[15:53] <jarle> twans: why you should not use WEP -> http://www.grc.com/SecurityNow.htm#11
[15:53] <bazhang> partypants: can you set the router ie a home router, or is this roaming like at a starbucks etc
[15:53] <twans> oh i dont use it
[15:53] <partypants> bazhang: yes it is my router
[15:53] <ikonia> LjL: it only makes a direcotry if hal/dbus is aware
[15:54] <partypants> bazhang: but I would rather leave it encrypted
[15:54] <partypants> my bandwidth is shitty enough without letting other people on...
[15:54] <LjL> ikonia: but from the backlog i seem to understand that the /media directory is there already
[15:54] <partypants> stupid time warner
[15:55] <waxworks> can some tell me what this means?
[15:55] <o00w> how can I inherit permissions to sub folders with chown?  I changed the parent folder but it did not apply inheritance to all sub folders.
[15:55] <robot_jesus> has anyone installed compiz-fusion and can tell me how stable it is ?
[15:55] <bazhang> partypants: I always had an easier time with wpa2 using passphrase; though as that is offtopic and it is wep then perhaps you should set the ap via ifconfig/iwconfig
[15:55] <twans> o00w, chown -R
[15:55] <ikonia> LjL: I didn't see that part
[15:55] <robot_jesus> o00w:  -R
[15:55] <waxworks> [1625.728000] bcm43xx: Error: microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5,fw.not available or load failed
[15:55] <Dextorion> robot_jesus: just had it going for a couple of days here now, but works well for me.
[15:55] <somestupidnewbie> all new windows are opening under the launch bar, thus hiding the close max and min buttons. any way to correct this?
[15:56] <Dextorion> robot_jesus: What kinda of graphic card do you have?
[15:56] <erawfish> waxworks: it means you haven't put the firmware for your bcm in the proper place
[15:56] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: umm got lkicked from irc, still there?
[15:56] <partypants> bazhang: ok I will try setting it with iwconfig
[15:56] <bazhang> partypants: once you have set it via the cli it should acquire it automatically on boot
[15:56] <BoltClock> erawfish: ive seen the last four lines when i couldnt get the live cd to start the OS
[15:57] <waxworks> this msg came up on bootup to install ubuntu
[15:57] <partypants> cli?
[15:57] <robot_jesus> Dextorion: nvidia geforce 7800, would that be enough ?
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Hi yes... Still thinking it is a permissions issue
[15:57] <robot_jesus> Dextorion: what card do you have ?
[15:57] <DOOM_NX> why am i downloading files at 3KB/s on msn?
[15:58] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: i just rebooted my pc and voila its there -.-
[15:58] <waxworks> BoltClock you haveing the same prob??
[15:58] <bazhang> somestupidnewbie: can you right click on the open windows and choose always over others etc? alt drag will bring them down initially
[15:58] <erawfish> BoltClock: a) the livecd never uses nvidia drivers  b) those line you pasted have nothing at all to do with nvidia or X
[15:58] <BoltClock> waxworks: what's yours?
[15:58] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: i think it has smthg to do with the fact that i had mounted it with sudo
[15:58] <x_or> Where can I find out what count the auto-fsck is at?  I want to know how many reboots before the auto-fsck runs again.
[15:58] <BoltClock> erawfish: nothing to do at all? o.o
[15:58] <waxworks> [1625.728000] bcm43xx: Error: microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5,fw.not available or load failed
[15:58] <simion314> how can i install the kernel source?
[15:58] <bazhang> partypants: command line is cli

[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Ok.. explains why we could not find anything wrong
[15:58] <neverblue> 'W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb
[15:58] <neverblue>   403 Forbidden' anyone else receive this error during updates this morning ?
[15:58] <h1st0> !broadcom > waxworks,   waxworks Read the private message from ubotu.
[15:58] <kalet> #
[15:59] <bazhang> partypants: in the terminal
[15:59] <Odd-rationale> neverblue: Not me.
[15:59] <partypants> bazhang: ok
[15:59] <Dextorion> robot_jesus: II dont think you'll have any problems there mate. I have an ATI card, which is kinda messy to get going. Nvidia cards should work smoother. :)
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: Glad it is working...  Welcome to Ubuntu
[15:59] <h1st0> waxworks: you just need the firmware for your card.
[15:59] <xator> http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=fXWRL39XI2Y
[15:59] <baldric> need some help with recent update to Ubuntu 7.10  - boot sticks at fsck and lost my video drivers
[15:59] <xator> look this video ;)
[15:59] <somestupidnewbie> bazhang: yeh always on top is an option. odd problem to have
[15:59] <Dextorion> robot_jesus: and yes, that will be more than enough.
[15:59] <Pici> xator: Please dont, this is a support channel.
[15:59] <dfas> hi all I have a php script that does a shell_exec('bin/sh mysh.sh') it does work when I execute php -q phpscript.php from CLI but it does not work when I call this script on apache from a webbrowser any ideas ? I did a chmod a+x mysh.sh
[16:00] <bazhang> somestupidnewbie: if you set it to your liking it should stick iirc
[16:00] <waxworks> h1st0 it will not boot
[16:00] <Dextorion> robot_jesus: you might just be able to use the "restricted drivers manager" to activate your drivers, and then activate "Advanced desktop effects". That should be it. :)
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> baldric: Does it not get through the file system check?
[16:00] <newUser> hello.. how to update ubuntu from console
[16:00] <h1st0> dfas: can the apache group see the mysh.sh file?  Or is it ina  directory that it doesn't have access to.
[16:00] <somestupidnewbie> bazhang: appears to work. thnx
[16:00] <h1st0> waxworks: what won't boot?
[16:01] <tdn> I have a clean Ubuntu 7.10 desktop installation on my machine that I would like to transform into an Ubuntu Server 7.10. Which packages do I remove/purge?
[16:01] <Dextorion> robot_jesus: Maybe activate Composite in Xorg.conf aswell.. i dont know.  But not much more anyways.
[16:01] <dfas> h1st0, yes it is in the html dir
[16:01] <dfas> h1st0, and the executing php is in the same dir
[16:01] <h1st0> dfas: hrm... make sure they have read too.
[16:01] <newUser> jack_sparrow how to update ubuntu from concole
[16:01] <h1st0> newUser: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:01] <simion314> hw can i install the kernel source? is a package?
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> newUser: apt-get update   ?
[16:02] <h1st0> simion314: yes but you probably just need the headers
[16:02] <waxworks> ubuntu will not boot form the live cd i get that error
[16:02] <komputes> if anyone is familiar with DocBook XML can they please join me in #docbook
[16:02] <baldric> only boots if I use using "Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic" forgets all my video setting when i restart
[16:02] <h1st0> simion314: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[16:02] <BoltClock> ok i managed to turn on the driver and it hasnt been mysteriously disabled
[16:03] <BoltClock> still low gfx mode
[16:03] <newUser> update then upgrade thank hlst0
[16:03] <x_or> Or, can someone tell me how to use dumpe2fs to tell the number of times before the fskc check occurs?
[16:03] <Lartza_> got the drives to work, but gives error message on every mount
[16:03] <h1st0> waxworks: check the cd for errors
[16:03] <waxworks> all im saying is Ubuntu will not boot because i get the error.
[16:03] <h1st0> Lartza_: what errors are you getting when you put a cd in?
[16:04] <Lartza_> umm... hard to say for you. need to be tranlated
[16:04] <BoltClock> erawfish: what should i try now?
[16:04] <waxworks> [1625.728000] bcm43xx: Error: microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5,fw.not available or load failed
[16:04] <h1st0> waxworks: its probably hanging on a different error that error is just related to firmware not being present for your wifi card.  It should continue booting after that.
[16:04] <Lartza_> it mount but gives some kind of "cant mount error"
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> waxworks: Did you have the livecd do the self test for errors?
[16:04] <waxworks> and a lot of them
[16:04] <h1st0> waxworks: check the cd for defects and try safe graphics mode.
[16:04] <UberDay> is anyone else haveing issue's geting the update xserver-xorg-core to download and install
[16:05] <Lartza_> and annoyingly opens the cd in both nautilus and thunar
[16:05] <h1st0> Lartza_: does it work though?
[16:05] <Lartza_> yes
[16:05] <h1st0> Lartza_: okay well why do you have nautilus and thunar?
[16:05] <mnoir> x_or:  sudo dumpe2fs -h /dev/whatever
[16:06] <Lartza_> "mount: /dev/hddd already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy"
[16:06] <h1st0> UberDay: aparently there is a bug related to java apps with it right now.  Maybe its being fixed atm.
[16:06] <Lartza_> because
[16:06] <robot_jesus> Dextorion: sweet, do you like it ?
[16:06] <Lartza_> i dont know how to remove nautilus
[16:06] <UberDay> ok ty
[16:06] <UberDay> \\\\;0
[16:06] <h1st0> Lartza_: thats because you have two things trying to mount it.
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !tune2fs
[16:06] <UberDay> :)
[16:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tune2fs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:06] <Lartza_> how to change from nautilus to thunar
[16:06] <h1st0> Lartza_: what are you running xubuntu?
[16:06] <Lartza_> both
[16:06] <Lartza_> but would like to change to thunar
[16:06] <Lartza_> in ubuntu too
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> x_or: what about using tune2fs
[16:07] <h1st0> Lartza_: nautilus is part of gnome but someone may know how to remove it.
[16:07] <Lartza_> or disable
[16:07] <WhiteHat> Hi. Which repositories should I add so that I will be able to install most of the recent applications?
[16:07] <Lartza_> i need thunar only
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Lartza_: I added thunar to ubuntu, but was not able to figure out how to make it the default
[16:08] <Lartza_> sometimes xubuntu open folders in nautilus whn double clicked on desktop
[16:08] <Lartza_> that error is really weird
[16:09] <stain> I just installer 7.10 on x86-64, and I get from the update thingie: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_amd64.deb 403 Forbidden
[16:09] <stain> is this extra security..? :_)
[16:09] <profanephobia> how can i find out whats using my ram as cache?
[16:09] <Lartza_> why my disc drives give a mount error, but still mount???
[16:09] <bazhang> stain: could be a server not responding--try again in a bit
[16:09] <DOOM_NX> why is pidgin downloading so slowly? do i need to open a port?
[16:10] <DOOM_NX> MSN network
[16:10] <neverblue> 'W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb
[16:10] <neverblue>   403 Forbidden' anyone else receive this error during updates this morning ?
[16:10] <LjL> stain, don't upgrade, there are problems with the current xorg updates, neverblue, same
[16:10] <neverblue> ah
[16:10] <neverblue> ok, thanks LjL
[16:10] <stain> LjL: ok, thanks, I'll cancel it
[16:10] <bazhang> oops forgot the topic
[16:10] <neverblue> wasnt sure if it was just the host
[16:10] <Lartza_> why my disc drives give a mount error, but still mount???
[16:10] <neverblue> s/host/repo/
[16:10] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: hehehe yeah and sudo tune2fs -m 1 /dev/sdb1 also helps freaking ubuntu reserves 7,5gig(!!!) from my hdd XD
[16:11] <h1st0> DOOM_NX: probably from whoever you are downloading from.
[16:11] <bazhang> DOOM_NX: where are you downloading it from? the repos?
[16:11] <tdn> I just removed NetworkManager from my remote Ubuntu server and the connection went down. Now I cannot get access to it. How do I fix this?
[16:11] <LjL> neverblue: it probably is just the host. however, since that upgrade is broken anyway, better to just wait ;)
[16:11] <Devilson> hy all
[16:11] <Devilson> i need help
[16:11] <bazhang> hi Devilson
[16:11] <h1st0> Lartza_: because its being mounted by something then something else is trying to mount it again.
[16:11] <neverblue> LjL :)
[16:11] <bazhang> ask away Devilson
[16:11] <robot_jesus> this is a very friendly channel
[16:11] <Devilson> i try to acces youtube and the flsh player doesent work
[16:11] <Devilson> :(
[16:11] <robot_jesus> the robot_jesus approves of this chanel
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit: 7.5 from 500 Gig....  I think you can afford that
[16:11] <lootsy> hi - i want to apt-get upgrade the package xserver-xorg-core but the server said 403 Forbidden error. Does anyone knwo who to contact to fix this issue?
[16:11] <Lartza_> h1st0: didn't understand
[16:12] <h1st0> !flash > Devilson,   Devilson Read the private message from ubotu.
[16:12] <bazhang> Devilson: check the topic--a fix is in the works
[16:12] <Lartza_> /dev/hdc already mounted to /media/crom0 is part of it
[16:12] <shoeunited> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_i386.deb  403 Forbidden   <----  This showed up in the Update Manager.  lol Help?
[16:12] <bazhang> lootsy: an issue that is being resolved as we speak (hopefully)
[16:13] <bazhang> shoeunited: yeah, it is happening to many folks now just be patient for a fix
[16:13] <lootsy> baz: thanks i will try it in a few minutes again
[16:13] <wyclif> gtk-gash is thrashing my HD
[16:13] <Jack_Sparrow> shoeunited: The update is broken.. please stop posting that it will be fixed soon
[16:13] <wyclif> gtk-gnash is thrashing my disk
[16:13] <BoltClock> i need help with my new gutsy install. my nvidia graphics driver has been bugging me for over six hours today. im using an onboard nvidia gf7100 card, but whether the driver is enabled or not in Restricted Drivers, ubuntu fails to work with it and requests to start in low gfx mode.
[16:13] <shoeunited> bazhang, Jack_Sparrow,  Alright thank you sirs,  I know I'm not usually the first but better to head off a problem with server errors than let it go undected.  Thank you :)
[16:14] <bazhang> wyclif: sounds bad--can you provide more details
[16:14] <Jack_Sparrow> np thanks
[16:14] <bazhang> no worries shoeunited
[16:14] <partypants> Ok so the wireless works with encryption disabled, but I would like to have it enabled. Unfortunately my router only supports WEP.
[16:14] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Quick question.. did you setup your monitors v/h refresh and sync?
[16:14] <wyclif> when I hit a bit of bad code in a page, all of a sudden gtk-gnash is thrashing and using over 80% of RAM in a runaway process; thx bazhang
[16:15] <bazhang> I was wondering why myspace almost took down my machine earlier :}
[16:15] <unstable> I just built this AMD X2 system, and I burned an AMD64 iso, but after the grub menu..and after it shows some text..it goes black, and stays that way
[16:15] <unstable> but when I boot an i386 disc, it works fine
[16:15] <lootsy> LjL: Is there a website where I can get these news (server problems and so on...)?
[16:15] <Jack_Sparrow> partypants: Wep is worthless  and routers are inexpensive.. run without wep or get a new router
[16:15] <wyclif> bazhang: myspace will do it, but it was actually macrumors.com
[16:15] <LjL> lootsy, not really. it's something pretty "live" that's being discussed mostly on irc.
[16:16] <unstable> Anyone know why the splashscreen doesn't show on a AMD64 ubuntu disc, the monitor just stays black the whole time, but it works fine on i386
[16:16] <LjL> lootsy: it will probably be solved in two dozens of minutes.
[16:16] <partypants> Jack_Sparrow: WEP will keep n00bs out, and that's all I really want to do.
[16:16] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: huh?
[16:16] <bazhang> wyclif: haha yeah that site will do it too
[16:16] <QuickGold> What is the command(s) to install the GUI on Ubuntu Server?
[16:16] <wyclif> had to reboot.  i'm wondering if I even need gtk-gnash
[16:16] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: 7,5 gig?? never in a live! XD
[16:17] <lootsy> LjL: thx maybe i'm too impatient :)
[16:17] <Seveas> QuickGold, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop linux-generic
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Please post your xorg to the pastebin..  Is this a laptop or desktop box.. Provide us with a link to the pastebin.. Do not paste into the channel.
[16:17] <QuickGold> Seveas: ty!
[16:17] <notyeta> hey
[16:17] <LjL> !xbug
[16:17] <ubotu> The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[16:17] <sarthor> if my ips remain dynamic So will this scrip will work fine?? http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[16:17] <BoltClock> i pasted it a bit ago, let me get the link
[16:17] <waqas> hey can any one help me?
[16:17] <Flanger> Hi all, Does someone know how I can make mutt play nicely with thinderbird? Thunderbird has long dir's which make little sense to store e-mail in. Those are not easily accessible by mutt.
[16:18] <Seveas> !anyone | waqas
[16:18] <ubotu> waqas: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[16:18] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: thanks
[16:18] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52422, im on a desktop pc that i bought a couple weeks ago
[16:18] <Seveas> Flanger, use imap. Then they don't have to cooperate :)
[16:18] <QuickGold> !ask | waqas
[16:18] <ubotu> waqas: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:18] <waqas> how do i migrate myBB from one host to an other host?
[16:19] <Flanger> Seveas: ok, thanks, I'll look into that (never really taken the trouble).
[16:19] <lix> hi. how can i (as root) see, what another shell user is writing in the command line? "tail -f /dev/pts/1" doesnt work.
[16:19] <partypants> I guess I can just run an open network for now, but does anyone know of an app (not necessarily linux) that will notify my when a new computer joins the network?
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: It shows no resolutions for your screen output..  Did you already sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:20] <Seveas> lix, you can with a nasty trick
[16:20] <lix> Seveas: like what?
[16:20] <lix> Seveas: i like it nasty ;)
[16:21] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: yes, i have. should i do it again to make sure?
[16:21] <Seveas> lix, hang on, trying to remember...
[16:21] <notyeta> remerber what?
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Something is not right.. have you looked up your v/h sync and refresh yourself 160 seems a bit high... on the one
[16:21] <notyeta> how should i format my disk?
[16:22] <Pici> lix: Seveas: ttysnoop iirc.
[16:22] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: what's v/h sync?
[16:22] <Seveas> Pici, close but no cigar :)
[16:22] <poor_man> hi ubunters.....
[16:22] <sarthor> if my ips remain dynamic So will this scrip will work fine?? http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Lines 72 and 73 in your xorg
[16:22] <Pici> Seveas: conspy?
[16:22] <ubud> how to add in medibuntu
[16:23] <Seveas> Pici, closer but still no cigar :)
[16:23] <LjL> !medibuntu > ubud    (ubud, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:23] <zoli2k> Hi! I have problem with the navigator bar in firefox. It is very random effect. Sometimes it stops to react on entering any address.
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Verify those specs fit your hardware...
[16:23] <Seveas> Pici, gah.. my memory is fauling me...
[16:23] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: i dont know how to, im not sure about hardware :/
[16:23] <zoli2k> zoli2k:  I have this problem on gutsy, fesity on different machines.
[16:23] <ubud> medibuntu site very slow anyone know the cmd line to add in for gusty?
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: I would use google and find the specs for your monitor
[16:24] <partypants> zoli2k: can you explain in more detail?
[16:24] <LjL> ubud: deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free
[16:24] <poor_man> i want use a trusted ssh connection, passwordless from my source machine to destination one. i have to generate ssh public/privete keys from the source machine or from the destination machine??
[16:24] <GovDoc> I am trying to make a package.list (not sure if that is it's extension).  I have a quite a large collection of debs outside my /Var/.../archive/, but i need to find out how to properly scan, i know it has to with dpkg-scanpackages.  I just dont understand how to use it properly, all my files are in one directory, if anyone knows the code for that, can you help me out
[16:24] <lix> Pici: ttysnoop tells me: "can't connect to server"
[16:24] <lix> Pici ??
[16:24] <LjL> profanephobia: perhaps the kernel...?
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: You can also run the reconf again.. select vesa mode.. 1024 x 768 as max res and get basic gui functioning
[16:25] <Pici> lix: I just knew the package name from the repos, Seveas says hes thinking of something else.
[16:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd > GovDoc
[16:25] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: my monitor specs: http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/lg-l226wtq-bf-flat/4507-3174_7-32447663-.html
[16:25] <Seveas> lix, ttysnoop is not what you want
[16:25] <lix> Pici: used "ttysnoop pts/1" while the user is logged in on pts/1
[16:25] <lix> Seveas: oh. ok
[16:25] <lix> Pici: tnx anyways :)
[16:26] <GovDoc> Jack-Sparrow: what command do i use, i just saw aptoncd -l and aptoncd -c for creating a repo on a media.  Unfortunately i do not have that many cds available for burning
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: So the xorg is way wrong for v/h as well
[16:27] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: so should i run that command in terminal?
[16:27] <sarthor> if my ips remain dynamic So will this scrip will work fine?? http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[16:27] <lix> Seveas: ttyrec ?
[16:27] <motorad> jojo
[16:27] <Seveas> lix, found it: script
[16:27] <Seveas> http://linux.die.net/man/1/script
[16:28] <lix> Seveas: tnx i'll try that
[16:28] <motorad> jojojo
[16:28] <motorad> jo
[16:28] <Pici> Seveas: Interesting, never though of using script like that.
[16:28] <Pici> !support | motorad
[16:28] <ubotu> motorad: the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Yes you need to rerun it.. that link you gave only posted the upper limit.. a factory pdf would also show the lower limit
[16:29] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: X server driver, im confused between nv and nvidia, which should i pick?
[16:29] <ikonia> BoltClock: nvidia
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: start with nvidia
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks ikonia...  I need my morning coffee...
[16:30] <LibertyShadow> Is anyone having trouble updating xserver-xorg-core.  I get a message saying it is forbidden.
[16:30] <BoltClock> Identifier for your video card: nVidia Corporation NVIDIA Default Card
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !xbug
[16:30] <sarthor> if my ips remain dynamic So will this scrip will work fine?? http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[16:30] <ubotu> The latest security updates unfortunately broke Java and wxWidgets applications. See https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969 for more information. An application may be affected if « apt-cache depends $(apt-cache pkgnames vlc) | grep "java\|libwx" » shows any output. The X.org package causing the problem has been pulled from the repositories, that's why you get a "403 Forbidden" error.
[16:30] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: not a problem
[16:30] <bazhang> LibertyShadow: that is being worked on as we speak
[16:30] <LibertyShadow> bazhang: Thank you.
[16:31] <tdn> What packages do I need to remove to make a regular Ubuntu into an Ubuntu Server?
[16:31] <bazhang> no worries LibertyShadow
[16:31] <Seveas> !ding
[16:31] <ubotu> dong
[16:31] <Seveas> hmm, ubotu ?
[16:31] <Seveas> ah
[16:31] <neverblue> whats the command to remove a package entirely using apt-get/aptitude ( I realize there are two)
[16:31] <BoltClock> im at a screen describing something but i cant seem to get past it
[16:31] <LjL> neverblue: sudo apt-get --purge remove package / sudo aptitude purge package
[16:31] <genii> neverblue: with apt-get:   sudo apt-get remove --purge <name>
[16:32] <neverblue> thanks LjL and genii
[16:32] <genii> LjL: Darn yer too fast
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Need more info than that
[16:32] <LjL> join -trivia and you'll see i'm so slow
[16:32] <WhiteHat> Hi. Which repositories should I add so that I will be able to install most of the recent applications?
[16:32] <neverblue> he is on da ball today genii
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Tab may let you past
[16:32] <BoltClock> ok got it
[16:32] <BoltClock> Video card's bus identifier: PCI:0:16:0
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: As long as you didnt change it
[16:33] <erUSUL> BoltClock: is  PCI:0:1:0 not 16
[16:33] <BoltClock> but it said 16
[16:33]  * erUSUL remembers BoltClock lspci utput
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> It shouldnt
[16:33] <TeeAhr1> hey, does anyone know how to get ahold of the folks who maintain the ubuntu wiki?  i cannot log in with my launchpad password (which is valid and logs me in to launchpad just fine)
[16:34] <BoltClock> erUSUL: so do i. but ive already passed that step, now what?
[16:34] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: 1 or 16?
[16:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Trust erUSUL
[16:34] <BoltClock> PCI:0:1:0? but ive passed that step ><
[16:35] <Jack_Sparrow> I gotta get some coffee...  running to the store now
[16:35] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: go through.. finsih then go again
[16:35] <erUSUL> BoltClock: well everything i tried with you failed and iirc the safe graphics mode overwrittes the Xorg log so you can not see what is going wrong...
[16:35] <BoltClock> Amount of memory (kB) to be used by the video card:
[16:35] <BoltClock> how much should it be?
[16:36] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: i will
[16:36] <Hilikus> where are daemons launched from? who starts them?
[16:36] <erUSUL> Hilikus: most of them are launched by upstart (init)
[16:36] <`Matir> Hilikus, look in /etc/init.d/
[16:36] <tetsou> hi
[16:37] <tetsou> Can anybody explain the undocumented option "-b" to modprobe ?
[16:37] <BoltClock> erUSUL: should i leave the video memory amount blank as the step recommends?
[16:37] <tomasso> is there any way to know how different are two files using diff ?
[16:37] <unstable> I just built this AMD X2 system, and I burned an AMD64 iso, but after the grub menu..and after it shows some text..it goes black, and stays that way
[16:37] <unstable> but when I boot an i386 disc, it works fine
[16:37] <unstable> Anyone know why the splashscreen doesn't show on a AMD64 ubuntu disc, the monitor just stays black the whole time, but it works fine on i386
[16:38] <tomasso> for example file1 and file2 match in a 35%
[16:38] <DRebellion> !enter | unstable
[16:38] <ubotu> unstable: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:38] <erUSUL> BoltClock: yes you can leave it blank is autodetected
[16:38] <tetsou> It's not listed in the man page, but it exists
[16:38] <corinth> When I maxamize a window, sometimes the titlebar gets screwed up.  My problem is the same as this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=525934 . Please help.
[16:38] <beta> So why does doing a whois on microsoft.com from an ubuntu machine return things such as: MICROSOFT.COM.ZZZZZZ.MORE.DETAILS.AT.WWW.BEYONDWHOIS.COM and MICROSOFT.COM.ZZZZZ.GET.LAID.AT.WWW.SWINGINGCOMMUNITY.COM? Complete whois: http://pastebin.ca/860055
[16:38] <unstable> I can't use 64 bit disc on my new system, only i386 works, but the system is 64 bit hardware
[16:38]  * erUSUL has to run
[16:38] <BoltClock> erUSUL: bye
[16:38] <beta> This does not reflect whois done from other distros (Fedora) or from online services.
[16:38] <BoltClock> i think
[16:39] <zoli2k> en is
[16:39] <DRebellion> beta: i can confirm this
[16:40] <beta> Why is this though? I mean, I'm not fond of microsoft and find it ironic, but at the same time I am not happy with the data being inaccurate (assuming it is inaccurate)
[16:40] <LjL> tomasso: diff doesn't have such a feature. you could probably script it. something like « expr $(diff --minimal file1 file2 | wc -l) / $(expr $(cat file1 file2 | wc -l) / 2) »
[16:40] <Zermelo> I upgraded my kernel on Gutsy to <IP_ADDRESS>, but now my built in wireless card will not turn on at boot, in fact if I turn it on at boot (FN+F2), when I log in it will turn it OFF, I have to wait until I log in to turn it on again with Fn+F2, any ideas on how to turn it on at boot?
[16:41] <th0r> beta we keep it tough to exclude the underserving from the community
[16:41] <amikrop> Can't upgrade xserver-xorg-core. 403 forbidden.
[16:41] <beta> th0r, What do you mean?
[16:41] <th0r> (undeserving)
[16:41] <ikonia> amikrop: it's currrently broke and being fixed urgently
[16:41] <amikrop> ikonia: ok
[16:41] <amikrop> thanks
[16:41] <MichaelSammels> When I run the Ubuntu LiveCD or install on my desktop, my monitor says that the input is not supported. Card is an Intel 845G.
[16:41] <ikonia> amikrop: a security update in it breaks java
[16:42] <amikrop> I see
[16:42] <DRebellion> beta: i think it is simply displaying subdomains with microsoft.com in them. if you look towards the bottom you see the microsoft.com listing.
[16:42] <tomasso> LjL, hmhmhm thank you ! sounds good
[16:42] <Lokii-> how do i mount a windows share ?
[16:42] <Kibble> hey all i'm getting a 403 error when trying to install recent security update to xserver-xorg-core
[16:42] <Kibble> any1 know about this?
[16:42] <DRebellion> !smb | Lokii-
[16:42] <ubotu> Lokii-: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[16:42] <LjL> !xbug > Kibble    (Kibble, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:42] <beta> DRebellion, Ah I see
[16:43] <barefoot> anyone else use this tutorial? http://howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-ubuntu-7.10 - I cant seem to get smtp authentication working, but pop is okay
[16:43] <MichaelSammels> When I run the Ubuntu LiveCD or install on my desktop, my monitor says that the input is not supported. Card is an Intel 845G.
[16:43] <Kibble> great ljl - thanks
[16:44] <Kibble> !flash
[16:44] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[16:44] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[16:44] <Lokii-> drebellion isn't there a way to mount with mount -o or something ?
[16:44] <Kibble> !gnash
[16:44] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[16:45] <DRebellion> Lokii-: yes you can permanently add the share by putting an entry in /etc/fstab
[16:45] <Lokii-> without samba though?
[16:45] <jaggy> what's the command to make a map readable and writeable for every user of the computer?
[16:45] <W8TAH> what does one need to install in gusty to be able to view youtube videos?
[16:45] <ASTX813> Someone please help with lp/lpr.  lpr -P Labeler -o media-Address addresslabel.pdf ends up printing with the top & bottom cut off, but printing from Evince with the paper size = Address in the Page Setup works just fine.
[16:46] <DRebellion> Lokii-: you can set up any type you want on your windows box
[16:46] <DRebellion> !flash | W8TAH
[16:46] <ubotu> W8TAH: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[16:46] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[16:46] <Kibble> has anyone had any issues with a flashing screen (flickers to black every ~1/2 minutes)
[16:46] <d31`home> !postfix
[16:46] <ubotu> postfix is the default !MTA and !MDA on Ubuntu. For help, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto - See also !MailServer
[16:46] <W8TAH> thanks DRebellion
[16:47] <DRebellion> W8TAH: no probs
[16:47] <LjL> DRebellion, please give that factoid in PM, since it's so spammy
[16:47] <Kibble> !mailserver
[16:47] <d31`home> !mailserver
[16:47] <jaggy> what's the command to make a map readable and writeable for every user of the computer?
[16:47] <DRebellion> LjL: hmm. its just that some people get pretty annoyed when you send them a pm
[16:47] <LjL> !msgthebot > d31`home    (d31`home, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:48] <LjL> DRebellion: that is completely their problem. if they don't want to be helped, they shouldn't be in here.
[16:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu supports the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) and provides mail server software of many kinds. You can install a basic email handling configuration with the "Mail server" task during installation, or with the "tasksel" command. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/email-services.html
[16:48] <DRebellion> LjL: ok fair enough
[16:48] <stf> Hi. An app gives me this error message... "XLoadQueryFont:failed loading font *-helvetica-*-12-*". Is there any simple way I can hack around this? I'm only gonna use the app once..
[16:48] <stf> for example can I mislead the app to use Courier New when *-helvetica-*-12-* is requested?
[16:48] <stf> (I did eventually install helvetica but to no avail..)
[16:48] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow you back yet?
[16:49] <DRebellion> !enter | stf
[16:49] <ubotu> stf: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:49] <d31`home> as if this channel doesn't already get enough spam LjL. I don't see the issue with asking ubotu questinos.
[16:49] <LjL> d31`home: err... precisely *because* this channel gets enough spam, there's definitely no reason to add more to it. Ubotu can respond in PM, so use PM.
[16:49] <stf> DRebellion: disagreed ;) it's more readable on several lines.
[16:50] <DRebellion> stf: disagreed. its easier to keep track of the channel if you don't fragment your message.
[16:50] <azlon> i just downloaded some drivers for my webcam, but how do i make the webcam work now?
[16:50] <W8TAH> stf-- not a good idea to argue with the gurus - just say yes sir and move on
[16:50] <azlon> i know in windows i would just go to device manager
[16:50] <DRebellion> !webcam > azlon
[16:50] <th0r> stf just a possibility. check into .Xdefaults....it allows you to define some operating parameters (like fonts in some cases) for X applications.
[16:51] <GottesDiener> I have a problem with the transparent of the terminal, I set the transparent background on the gnome-terminal, whene I launch compiz, it sets the gnome-terminal to be transparent to every window under it! any idea please to change this just to be transparent background?
[16:51] <d31`home> !Courier
[16:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about courier - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:51] <rredd4> LjL  others can learn from ubotu and go read the links provided if its printed here.  It has helped me
[16:51] <stf> th0r: thanks. I don't have that file in ~, googling it..
[16:51] <d31`home> i agree with rredd4
[16:52] <th0r> stf it isn't there by default. But I used to use it a lot for apps like nedit and netscape. Your app may or may not support it, but worth taking a look
[16:52] <Wannabe> Hi, How are you?
[16:52] <LjL> rredd4, d31`home: that is true. and that is why ubotu can be called with two different syntaxes. however, when factoids are long and very often used, there is no need to spam the channel. for short factoids that may easily be of interest to many people at once, there's the in-channel syntax.
[16:52] <rredd4> ubotu is not spam
[16:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is not spam - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:52] <DRebellion> i think its a matter of circumstance. if the channel is relitavely quiet (as it is now) then make ubotu reply in the channel. if its busy, then use a pm
[16:53] <azlon> DRebellion: i have already been to those links... they tell me where to get the drivers, but they dont tell me how to assign the drivers to a device
[16:53] <th0r> stf here is an example file....http://mathstat.asu.edu/support/doc/unix/coping-with-unix/node185.html
[16:53] <MrObvious> Morning guys.
[16:53] <DRebellion> MrObvious: afternoon :P
[16:54] <Wannabe> do you know how can i see what is contained in ntldr file or how can i open it ?
[16:54] <th0r> stf the file used to be quite popular in the old days before linux went into windows competition with gnome and kde....when apps worked well
[16:54] <MrObvious> th0r: I don't even know what the file does.
[16:54] <MrObvious> lol
[16:54] <MrObvious> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_amd64.deb
[16:54] <MrObvious>   403 Forbidden
[16:54] <DRebellion> Wannabe: do you mean with a .ntldr file extension?
[16:54] <th0r> my point is made
[16:54] <MrObvious> Is anyone getting this?
[16:54] <LjL> !xbug > MrObvious    (MrObvious, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:54] <LjL> !paste > MrObvious    (MrObvious, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:54] <DRebellion> !enter | MrObvious
[16:54] <ubotu> MrObvious: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:54] <MrObvious> Thanks.
[16:54] <macgruber> hi, anyone can help me about wifi range with ubuntu vs. vista?
[16:54] <stf> th0r: yeah, I remember reading about it in my very first linux book and skipping it cause it seemed arcane :)
[16:55] <MrObvious> DRebellion: I know. It had an extra enter character in there. :p
[16:55] <the^user> http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z6kTGUOiQI
[16:55] <DRebellion> MrObvious: god i know what you mean. such a pain.
[16:55] <th0r> stf you would be surprised how efficient your world will become if you dump gnome and kde and look into some of the older stuff
[16:56] <Wannabe> no, this is the name ntdlr without extention
[16:56] <stf> th0r: I have always found KDE (and GNOME) apps more polished than their plain-X predecessors
[16:56] <Wannabe> ntldr
[16:56] <DRebellion> Wannabe: file ntldr
[16:56] <th0r> stf yup....they look great if you have enough ram, cpu and disk space
[16:56] <Wannabe> yes
[16:56] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys I'm doing a regular old update on gutsy 64 bit and I keep getting this error "W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1_amd64.deb  403 Forbidden"
[16:56] <stf> th0r: which I do :)
[16:57] <th0r> stf and an hour or two to wait for them to load up and try to do something
[16:57] <MrObvious> I like the way Gnome works on Ubuntu. It's been tied in quite well.
[16:57] <stf> th0r: so I see "xterm*Font: blah blah" in that file. is the "xterm" simply the executable name, or is it some magic string?
[16:57] <BoltClock> im in the midst of configuring xserver-xorg and im not sure which mouse protocol to use (or something)
[16:57] <Pici> !xbug > Paddy_EIRE
[16:57] <MrObvious> !xbug > Paddy_EIRE
[16:57] <Kibble> any1 know why gnash would eat up 100% of my CPU running only one instance of youtube video (1GB RAM, 2x2GHz CPU)
[16:57] <stf> th0r: more like a second or two. sheesh ;)
[16:57] <th0r> stf the first term, in this case xterm, is the name of the executable.
[16:57] <stf> k
[16:57] <DRebellion> Kibble: gnash is not very efficient?
[16:57] <Paddy_EIRE> thx Pici and MrObvious
[16:57] <MrObvious> Kibble: Nope. I use regular Adobe Flash on my 64 bit firefox.
[16:57] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: YW.
[16:58] <BoltClock> im in the midst of configuring xserver-xorg and im not sure which mouse protocol to use (or something)... ImPS/2 or ExplorerPS/2, which should i use? ><
[16:58] <th0r> stf on my 2G core duo with 1G ram you can see quite a difference in performance between kde/gnome and xfce
[16:58] <Kibble> how would I install that mrobvious?
[16:58] <MrObvious> Kibble: *32 bit firefox on my 64 bit OS.
[16:58] <Paddy_EIRE> I also noticed that when I do anything that involves using the package manager it tries to remove nspluginwrapper each time
[16:58] <MrObvious> Kibble: Lemme find it on the wiki.
[16:58] <th0r> stf and I would point out...in kde and gnome you can't do the xdefaults thing for each individual app <smile>
[16:58] <stf> th0r: xfce? does that even have a syntax-highlightning text editor?
[16:58] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: You use gnash too?
[16:59] <th0r> stf look at nedit
[16:59] <Paddy_EIRE> nope
[16:59] <BoltClock> anyone? ><
[16:59] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: You use 64 bit firefox and 32 bit flash?
[16:59] <Kibble> (i have a 64 bit box, but as i'm a linux noob I was recommended away from trying to install the 64bit ubuntu version
[16:59] <Paddy_EIRE> MrObvious, I use nspluginwrapper as I'm using 64 bit
[16:59] <Paddy_EIRE> MrObvious, yes
[16:59] <stf> th0r: yeah, kde and gnome apps are well done so I never had to :) nedit is a motif app, no?
[16:59] <Wannabe> i want to see the code inside ntldr but i don't know how, i can see only some symbols
[16:59] <sarthor> if my ips remain dynamic So will this scrip will work fine?? http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[16:59] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: I'm finding Kibble a link on how to install Firefox 32 bit on 64 bit Ubuntu.
[16:59] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, pointless not to install the 64 bit version
[17:00] <th0r> stf yup...requires motif or lesstif
[17:00] <Paddy_EIRE> MrObvious, wait
[17:00] <BoltClock> could anyone help?
[17:00] <Paddy_EIRE> MrObvious, I have a script for that and its great
[17:00] <Kibble> paddy - i've been told it's more complicated?
[17:00] <tdn> The net stopped working after I removed all X packages. I guess this is because NetworkManager was uninstalled. How do I get the network up now?
[17:00] <DRebellion> Wannabe: run the command:  file ntldr
[17:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, not at all
[17:00] <th0r> stf course, there was a day when folks learned to progam in monochrome <smile>
[17:00] <DRebellion> Wannabe: that will tell you what sort of file it is
[17:00] <th0r> stf when the program meant  more than the colours
[17:00] <stf> th0r: motif doesn't float my boat. ugly and unusable ;)
[17:00] <MrObvious> Kibble: Push Tab after typing a few letters of the nick and tab autocompletes it. If it doesn't give you the right nick then push Tab again.
[17:00] <stf> th0r: that's me too. I learned in qbasic
[17:01] <MrObvious> Kibble: Paddy_EIRE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[17:01] <Kibble> MrObvious: aha, that's useful
[17:01] <MrObvious> Kibble: Very.
[17:01] <BoltClock> im in the midst of configuring xserver-xorg and im not sure which mouse protocol to use (or something)... ImPS/2 or ExplorerPS/2, which should i use? ><
[17:01] <Paddy_EIRE> MrObvious, the script is much nicer :P
[17:01] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: Lol.
[17:01] <stf> th0r: thanks for the help, I'm off to try it out
[17:01] <th0r> stf np
[17:01] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, can you accept dcc
[17:02] <azlon> !dualhead
[17:02] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[17:02] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: Maybe you should edit that wiki page I showed you to include that script.
[17:02] <Paddy_EIRE> ah
[17:02] <Paddy_EIRE> yes
[17:02] <Kibble> MrObvious: Paddy_EIRE: what's the bid deal with installing 64bit ubuntu?
[17:02] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: Just put it in the pastebin.
[17:02] <MrObvious> Kibble: I did it because I run Folding At Home and need a 64 bit kernel to run SMP processing for the project.
[17:02] <Paddy_EIRE> I will do later MrObvious as the original author of the script must be notified I'm sure?
[17:02] <Kibble> Paddy_EIRE: no, i'm not sure enough of my knowledge of linux to be accepting scripts from people on IRC
[17:03] <Kibble> no offense
[17:03] <anch> ola
[17:03] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: Oh. That might be good. I'm not needing it but Kibble would.
[17:03] <MrObvious> !hi | anch
[17:03] <ubotu> anch: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, no big deal I just noticed its much faster at booting and apps seem to be much snappier
[17:03] <anch> hello boys
[17:03] <Kibble> hmm
[17:03] <tim167> i try to copy a disk with dd, but i get 'no space left on device' even though i just formatted the drive and it's big enough, what did i do wrong ?
[17:04]  * Kibble is now interested in the 64bit version
[17:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, this channel is pretty safe If you would feel better if I sent it to an op first then I shall
[17:04] <MrObvious> tim167: Make sure the secondary drive is at least as big or bigger.
[17:04] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow back yet?
[17:04]  * Kibble leaves to scavenge the net for d/l link
[17:04] <MrObvious> Paddy_EIRE: Just put it on pastebin and show Kibble how to execute it.
[17:04] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[17:04] <tdn> I just removed NetworkManager from my remote Ubuntu server and the connection went down. Now I cannot get access to it. How do I fix this?
[17:05] <DRebellion> tdn: go and fix it locally
[17:05] <Paddy_EIRE> Kibble, hold on a sec if you dont mind.. gotta do a little thing here
[17:05] <cristi01> hello
[17:05] <Kibble> don't mind me :)
[17:05] <tim167> MrObvious, the the destination drive must be bigger than the actual source drive, or just the source partition ?
[17:05] <MrObvious> tim167: I think dd does whole drives, not just partitions.
[17:05] <Kibble> MrObvious: is there an intel 64bit?