[02:52] <anon32> strabes, it is possible, but that completely ruins file permissions
[02:52] <snook353> ok, thanks rabautz
[02:52] <talisein> Egyptooo: well, I know that the kernel supports SMP and MTRR in dapper. I would just install it and see if it works, it probably will.
[02:52] <anon32> and leaves your system totally open to attack
[02:52] <LjL> anon32: no, i don't, because i actually know that "ext2 windows" gives a few interesting results, while i haven't tried with ext3... at any rate, you can always *read* an ext3 partition like it were an ext2 partition. writing is another story, though
[02:52] <SB|nblracer> yes windows can go on fat32
[02:52] <Egyptooo> and that is by runing make menuconfig as they said, however am completly lost in those menuconfig menus
[02:52] <SB|nblracer> XP dose nose not like it
[02:52] <anon32> anyway, is there a way to get XFS support on Windows (yea, should go to ##windows)?
[02:52] <LjL> zOrK: yes, just avoid writing to them. or find a software that specifically supports ext3 and not just ext2
[02:52] <strabes> anon32: oh ok. my windows is on ntfs but i have a fat32 partition for linux/windows file sharing
[02:53] <Egyptooo> talisein i could find mtrr checked yes, but couldnt find modversions and smp
[02:53] <soundray> SpudDogg: sorry, I can't be of any help, then. Maybe ask on the mailing list?
[02:53] <talisein> Egyptooo: Skip the part about recompiling the kernel.
[02:53] <Egyptooo> talisein the problem is that i dont even know what do they stand for:)
[02:53] <SB|nblracer> i get an error when i try to make a swap. "mkswap: too many bad page"
[02:54] <talisein> !smp >talisein
[02:54] <SpudDogg> soundray, ok, thanks for the help so far!
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <anon32> what's the difference between linux-kernel-686 and linux-kernel-686smp? they both seem to install the same packages
[02:54] <Rockj> http://pastebin.ca/209116 , anyone can explain me why locale gives alot of errors and why locale -a doesn't show the en_US.ISO-8859-1 locale , but when you type dpkg-reconfigure locales it is installed :S
[02:54] <Egyptooo> talisein as they say its not recompiling , (You *do not* need to compile or install the kernel.), this is what i they said in the text file
[02:54] <talisein> anon32: if you have a multi-core processor or hyperthreading, you want smp. that's the only difference
[02:55] <soundray> SpudDogg: I actually managed to compile the sources from Ralink themselves today, so that's another approach you could try.
[02:55] <gh0st> strabes: keytouch does not have my keybpard
[02:55] <Mad3Max3> how do I do this "You must have the kernel source or headers in /usr/src/linux that exactly match your running kernel."?
[02:55] <anon32> talisein, but when I looked at both, they both were dummies that installed linux-kernel-<IP_ADDRESS>-686
[02:55] <SpudDogg> soundray, lol.  i get another error when i try that...do you think you can help me out with it?
[02:55] <talisein> Egyptooo: so the menuconfig is part of compiling the accelerated x driver? Realy, if you paid for this thing then you should bug them.
[02:55] <strabes> gh0st: do they have it on the website? they have more for download there
[02:55] <soundray> SpudDogg: try me
[02:56] <SpudDogg> soundray, well, i believe the command for that is 'sudo cp Makefile.6  ./Makefile'
[02:56] <SpudDogg> soundray, does that look familiar to you?
[02:56] <Egyptooo> talisein am just trying the demo now, its the only hope left to make my radeon 9200 work with 3d and open gl
[02:56] <talisein> anon32: recent kernel developments let the kernel automatically adapt itself to the right configuration. So while we used to need a smp package, now we just keep it around as a dummy
[02:56] <bimberi> anon32: I think it's a backwards compatibility thing.  Previous Ubuntu releases had separate 686 and 686-smp kernels.  Dapper doesn't
[02:56] <soundray> SpudDogg: yes
[02:57] <gh0st> strabes: unfortunately not
[02:57] <Mad3Max3> I have to put something in the linux dir there.. is it a header file it want .. and if so.. where is it?
[02:57] <talisein> Egyptooo: My 9600 works fine with free drivers... in Edgy. Just wait a couple weeks. ;)
[02:57] <anon32> oh
[02:57] <Megaqwerty> is there a way to save all of my (current) settings so I can roll back to my system's current configuration if something gets messed up?
[02:57] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, do u have any idea?
[02:58] <anon32> Megaqwerty, copy everything in /etc and /home ?
[02:58] <Egyptooo> talisein ok what do you thing about acceleratedX in general?
[02:58] <soundray> SpudDogg: why are you sudo'ing that one?
[02:58] <Megaqwerty> ok, thanks anon32
[02:58] <anon32> Megaqwerty, um... be careful when you overwrite your new files with those
[02:58] <strabes> gh0st: hmm you could try another keyboard by the same manufacturer. also, you can bind commands to keys using gconf-editor, apps, metacity, global_keybindings. you just have to find the names of your multimedia keys.
[02:58] <Megaqwerty> right, I know
[02:58] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[02:58] <talisein> Egyptooo: never tried it, don't think I will. I'm not sure how they are better than the ATI-provided flgrx driver.
[02:59] <SB|nblracer> Any one have a clue why i get the rror Too many Bad Pagges when trying to make a SWAP
[02:59] <Mad3Max3> Anyone that can help?
[02:59] <gh0st> how to do it in gconf/metacity?
[02:59] <talisein> Egyptooo: i don't really think its aimed at helping end-users. ;)
[02:59] <barktpolar> When is Edgy Eft coming out in Shipit\
[03:00] <ks1> barktpolar: its not
[03:00] <talisein> barktpolar: I heard that Dapper would continue to be the shipit'd distro
[03:00] <snook353> rabautz, there are no src deb lines on teh etc/apt/sources.list
[03:00] <snook353> this is what it look like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27284/
[03:00] <SpudDogg> soundray, i needed the sudo, but there had to be 2 spaces in the command
[03:00] <soundray> Mad3Max3: install the linux-headers package that fits your current kernel. Then create a link 'ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) /usr/src/linux'
[03:00] <MenZa> !names
[03:00] <Egyptooo> talisein i tried the ati provided fglrx drivers and they give me direct render and open gl yes, but almost every application gives me floating exception point error when starting
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about names - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <Megaqwerty> what is the bash command to sudo copy?
[03:00] <Egyptooo> so its useless
[03:00] <varsendaggr> hey are there any DTP programs that let you link to files and as you change one file the other parts change in the other document?
[03:00] <anon32> soundray, ah yes... the kernel headers (eww)
[03:01] <anon32> Megaqwerty, try "sudo copy" ?
[03:01] <LjL> !cli > Megaqwerty
[03:01] <Egyptooo> talisein even maya gives me signal 11 error and closes
[03:01] <Megaqwerty> lol, thanks
[03:01] <talisein> Egyptooo: ?? Did you install flgrx from apt-get or synaptic? Lots of people use Dapper and flgrx
[03:01] <strabes> gh0st i'm not sure how to find the names of your multimedia keys. I know there's a command that allows you to hit buttons and it will show you them. just look on ubuntu forums
[03:01] <gh0st> strabes: i know their names
[03:02] <Mad3Max3> soundray, how do I find the headers for my kernel,, how do I see if it match. im new to linux so..im kinda lost
[03:02] <SpudDogg> soundray, the command the readme is telling me to type is 'dos2unix rt73sta.dat' but i get the error "bash: dos2unix: command not found"
[03:02] <strabes> gh0st , not like play, pause, stop, etc.
[03:02] <dabaR> SpudDogg: install it
[03:02] <corhere> i tried to install flash player 9 by placing the .so into ~/.mozilla/plugins but I still get the old version (flashplayer-nonfree). I did close firefox before copying the .so. What have I done wrong?
[03:02] <soundray> SpudDogg: 'sudo apt-get install sysutils' then try again
[03:02] <Egyptooo> talisein i tried every single soloutin, the synaptic the ati and converted to deb the ati directly from the run, nothing works
[03:02] <rabautz> snook353: Just copy those lines and make deb-src of the beginning of those copied lines, think that should work..
[03:03] <soundray> Mad3Max3: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[03:03] <snook353> ok, rabautz
[03:03] <julian> any suggestions on a good wep breaker
[03:03] <talisein> corhere: you need to place it in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.. or something like that. Check the readme.
[03:03] <digit-> bah, this is ruining my whole desktop
[03:03] <ArrenLex> corhere: apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[03:03] <digit-> not really, but in my mind it is
[03:03] <gh0st> no i know them:like 0xed 0xea etc...
[03:03] <anon32> what would happen if I tried to do "wine taskmgr.exe" /
[03:03] <corhere> ArrenLex, i want to avoid doing that
[03:03] <anon32> ArrenLex, that doesn't actually remove the plugin
[03:03] <gh0st> strabes : no i know them:like 0xed 0xea etc...
[03:03] <SpudDogg> soundray, i get "dos2unix: No write permission for rt73sta.dat. Use -f to force conversion" should i add the -f?
[03:03] <strabes> gh0st: oh ok then go to gconf-editor, apps, metacity, keybinding_commands
[03:03] <ArrenLex> That's stupid. Then remove it from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.
[03:03] <soundray> Mad3Max3: try uname -r on its own. It shows your current kernel version. $(uname -r) fills it in somewhere else.
[03:03] <ArrenLex> flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so -- remove them
[03:04] <Egyptooo> talisein i have messed up the system from those tries am sure, but i am in a situation now that i went back to the default ubuntu ati driver , the direct render is off
[03:04] <strabes> and type in the commands in there for command 1 etc
[03:04] <strabes> gh0st: like amarok --play-pause i tihnk is one
[03:04] <julian> need ati driver for x1400
[03:04] <soundray> SpudDogg: it would really be best if you started over by unpacking the driver source in your home dir. Then you can follow the instructions to the letter and they will work.
[03:04] <strabes> gh0st: in terminal type amarox --help
[03:04] <strabes> gh0st: that will tell you all the commands
[03:04] <ArrenLex> gh0st: are you trying to control amarok? Use dcop.
[03:05] <Egyptooo> talisein what is MODVERSIONS anyway?
[03:05] <gh0st> strabes: what do you mean go to metacity, where? and i tried keytouch, but i can't apply anything, it just starts rhythmbox, however i said amarok in keytouch, altough it's not exactly the same keyboard model...
[03:05] <strabes> julian: follow the 1st method in thisguide - i have the same card as you: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.26.18_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually
[03:05] <julian> sweet thnx
[03:05] <strabes> gh0st: close keytouch - that's useless for you now
[03:05] <strabes> julian: np
[03:05] <SpudDogg> soundray, so the fact that the folder is at '/home/spuddogg/Desktop/RT73_Linux_STA_Drv<IP_ADDRESS>/Module' makes a difference?
[03:05] <strabes> gh0st: in a terminal, type gconf-editor
[03:06] <gh0st> strabes: is it only useful if it's the EXACT keyboard?
[03:06] <soundray> SpudDogg: oh, is that where it is? That's fine, unless you've unpacked it with sudo.
[03:06] <talisein> Egyptooo: yeah, the direct render in the free (default) driver isn't available in dapper. If you really need direct render, try to "aptitude install xserver-xorg-driver-ati" and then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:07] <Rockj> anyone can help me with locale-troubles?
[03:07] <talisein> Egyptooo: MODVERSIONS is just a kernel option where it keeps track of what version of modules are installed
[03:07] <strabes> gh0st: i dunno i've never had to use it with a different keyboard. you have to set the keys like play etc to the amarok commands like "amarok --play-pause" i think is one
[03:07] <soundray> !helpme
[03:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:07] <Luakagon> huh?
[03:07] <Rockj> http://pastebin.ca/209116 , anyone can explain me why locale gives alot of errors and why locale -a doesn't show the en_US.ISO-8859-1 locale , but when you type dpkg-reconfigure locales it is installed :S
[03:07] <Luakagon> :P
[03:07] <Xenguy> Gnu's Not Unix, er
[03:08] <marc_> .me needs help with "Evolution", I seem to recieve e-mail's but I can't send
[03:08] <gh0st> in which field? default setting or program etc?
[03:08] <anon32> marc_, Evolution... lol
[03:08] <Rockj> I'am trying to use iso-8859-1 as standard because of our special norwegian letters.
[03:08] <strabes> gh0st: in the program box
[03:08] <anon32> question: why is the default mail app not thunderbird?
[03:08] <marc_> I can't seem to find where to change the port setting for my SMTP...
[03:08] <Egyptooo> talisein ok will try that, thanx:)
[03:08] <talisein> Egyptooo: good luck
[03:09] <strabes> anon32: why do people even use mail apps when there is gmail?
[03:09] <rbil> question: why is the sky blue?
[03:09] <marc_> strabeb....business...maybe
[03:09] <talisein> strabes: because we don't want Google reading our email?
[03:09] <LjL> rbil: question: why is this channel called an "Ubuntu support channel"?
[03:09] <Megaqwerty> how do I make nautilus copy locked files? Is there a way to open it with super user privileges?
[03:09] <ks1> anon32: because evolution is part of the gnome desktop.
[03:09] <hobbesmaster> Megaqerty: from the console  sudo nautilus
[03:09] <anon32> strabes, because when you go to gmail there's the loading and also the ads
[03:10] <marc_> So..I am hearing that maybe I shouldn't use Evolution...
[03:10] <anon32> ks1, huh
[03:10] <hutchGuy> maybe port 80 is blocked ?
[03:10] <rabautz> marc_: Just write your smtp-server in the form: smtp-server:Port eg mx.provider.com:25
[03:10] <hutchGuy> :)
[03:10] <strabes> anon32 - good reason
[03:10] <anon32> marc_, no... just that a lot of us haven't used it
[03:10] <hutchGuy> port 445 as well ?
[03:10] <strabes> anon32: i don't mind however
[03:10] <ks1> anon32: that was answering your question "why is the default mail app not thunderbird?"
[03:10] <gh0st> strabes: well, it doesn't work.... how can i do it with gconf-editor
[03:10] <talisein> the only MUA you need is mutt.  ^^
[03:10] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[03:10] <anon32> ks1, thanks
[03:10] <strabes> gh0st: what command are you using in keytouch?
[03:10] <strabes> or commansd
[03:11] <corhere> woot! I installed flashplayer 9 by mv-ing the old /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so and flashplayer.xpt to *.bak and copying the new libflashplayer.so there and chmoding it +x
[03:11] <ArrenLex> corhere: don't need +x
[03:11] <gh0st> strabes: what you said, but it's not my keyboard, just 3 keys are matching
[03:11] <SpaceFrog> For those of you who haven't seen the good news: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[03:11] <Megaqwerty> dang, I still can't do it, I'm trying to copy /etc/ to another partion, can someone help please?
[03:12] <pantaloon> can someone help me delete a duplicate program icon from the main menu?
[03:12] <soundray> talisein: mutt does it all for me. I keep it open for months in a screen session.
[03:12] <anon32> SpaceFrog, but it's a long time till it'll get anywhere... if it does
[03:12] <ArrenLex> Megaqwerty: what part are you having problems with?
[03:12] <strabes> gh0st: ok then. open up gconf-editor, then go to apps, metacity, keybinding commands.
[03:12] <anon32> pantaloon, run alacarte
[03:12] <talisein> soundray: ditto
[03:12] <soundray> SpudDogg: do you need further help?
[03:12] <Megaqwerty> it says "Error Operation not permitted"
[03:12] <hype> hi
[03:12] <ArrenLex> Mega: what does
[03:12] <SB|nblracer> Any one have a clue why i get the rror Too many Bad Pagges when trying to make a SWAP
[03:12] <ArrenLex> ?
[03:13] <SpudDogg> soundray, well in the instructions it tells me to do 'load'
[03:13] <SpaceFrog> anon32: It's running pretty decently for me, and that's all that matters at this point in time.. THe sound+video are in sync
[03:13] <strabes> gh0st: and type in the commands you want to use in command_1, etc
[03:13] <Megaqwerty> when I try to copy /etc/ using nautilus
[03:13] <Megaqwerty> there is an error message
[03:13] <anon32> SpaceFrog, wait... there's a public release?
[03:13] <soundray> SpudDogg: load what?
[03:13] <SpudDogg> soundray, and that just says command not found
[03:13] <slavik> hey all ...
[03:13] <ArrenLex> Megaqwerty: do you have write permissions to wherever you want to copy it?
[03:13] <strabes> gh0st: then go to global_keybindings, and type in the corresponding names of the buttons
[03:13] <pantaloon> anon32, thanks!
[03:13] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, did you launch it with gksudo nautilus?
[03:13] <SpaceFrog> anon32: yes
[03:13] <Megaqwerty> Yeah, I think
[03:13] <Megaqwerty> no
[03:13] <hype> any one can help me set up my refresh rate? i've just installed Nvidia Beta and now i'm stuck at 50hz. Here is my xorg http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/o5DQGe76.html
[03:13] <Megaqwerty> sudo
[03:13] <slavik> I need to get a dump of my system's BIOS, how do I do it?
[03:13] <gh0st> strabes: how does this work? run_command_1? what should i type?
[03:14] <Megaqwerty> what is the difference?
[03:14] <SpaceFrog> anon32: It's in beta. It went live today
[03:14] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, still should work I think
[03:14] <ArrenLex> Megaqwerty: there shouldn't be one
[03:14] <anon32> SpaceFrog, any glaring stability issues?
[03:14] <strabes> gh0st: that is the button that you press to activate command_1
[03:14] <ArrenLex> (a difference)
[03:14] <SpudDogg> soundray, in the readme, instruction 7 says to type 'load'
[03:14] <rabautz> marc_: Your provider will have general information how to connect to his smtp-server, read and adept to your evolution-config ...
[03:14] <slavik> anon32: grats ... now go write the broadcom wifi drivers ...
[03:14] <Megaqwerty> Error "Operation not permitted" while copying "/etc/X11/a...creenSaver".
[03:14] <gh0st> yes but WHAT's command_1?
[03:14] <soundray> SpudDogg: 1 min
[03:14] <anon32> slavik, sure...
[03:14] <gh0st> strabes: yes but WHAT's command_1?
[03:14] <anon32> slavik, I don't do wireless anyway, wired is so much better
[03:14] <strabes> gh0st: you need to define it in keybinding_commands
[03:15] <SpaceFrog> anon32: I played with it on Youtube, and at one stage it paused and wouldn't resume. I haven't encountered it again, though. Definitely check it out, anything's better than Flash 7
[03:15] <strabes> gh0st: like amarok --play-pause or something
[03:15] <anon32> SpaceFrog, yay?
[03:15] <digit-> how do i change gtk themes without gnome?
[03:15] <slavik> anon32: what about when you don't have _real_ access to wired?
[03:15] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, what does the error read, also you can do it via command line with "sudo cp -r /etc newdestination"
[03:15] <gh0st> strabes: in global-keybindings?
[03:15] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[03:15] <strabes> gh0st: i dont know if that's the command for amarok btw...you need to look it up by typing in a terminal amarok --help
[03:15] <Megaqwerty> that should work
[03:15] <anon32> slavik, then go somewhere you do... wireless sucks ass
[03:15] <Megaqwerty> I Love bash
[03:16] <strabes> gh0st: global_keybindings is the list of the names of the buttons that you press to activate the commansd that you can type into keybinding_commands
[03:16] <biglurch> holy hell it works
[03:16] <anon32> SpaceFrog, is it a real beta... or is it an MS beta (alpha)?
[03:16] <slavik> anon32: tell that to my college's IT department (they suck)
[03:16] <soundray> SpudDogg: which driver is it exactly on http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm ?
[03:16] <anon32> slavik, :-P
[03:16] <gh0st> strabes: in global_keybindings "amarok" (for ex.) and in keybind_command the key, is that right?
[03:16] <yarddog> !language
[03:16] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:16] <slavik> Megaqwerty: Perl > * :P
[03:16] <biglurch> ok sorry
[03:16] <strabes> gh0st: no the opposite of those
[03:16] <Megaqwerty> ok....
[03:16] <SpudDogg> soundray, RT2571W/RT2671
[03:16] <biglurch> thanks man i owe ya
[03:16] <Megaqwerty> anyway, what does the -r do?
[03:16] <slavik> SpudDogg: you lucky ...
[03:17] <rabautz> digit-: gnome-theme-manager
[03:17] <SpaceFrog> anon32: It's a real beta, as far as the site says. Took me 2 minutes to set up (just overwrite the old .so file) and restart Firefox
[03:17] <slavik> Megaqwerty: recursive probably
[03:17] <anon32> SpaceFrog, yay?
[03:17] <slavik> wait, flash 9 beta is out?
[03:17] <SpudDogg> slavik, ?
[03:17] <SpaceFrog> anon32: yes, yay
[03:17] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: what does it do? specifically? (-r)
[03:17] <SpaceFrog> slavik: Yes.
[03:17] <slavik> Megaqwerty: what command you running (try to man the command)
[03:18] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, that flag means recursive so that it copies all of the subdirectories and files within the /etc directory, if you just did cp /etc, it would refuse to do it
[03:18] <Megaqwerty> sudo cp -r /etc new destination
[03:18] <Megaqwerty> oh
[03:18] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[03:18] <strabes> gh0st: have you typed "amarok --help" into a terminal to find the commands yet?
[03:18] <Megaqwerty> that must be my problem
[03:18] <slavik> cp doesn't copy symlinks (need tar for that) ...
[03:19] <_greg> hi. Anyone having trouble entering a gateway in network-admin (edgy)?
[03:19] <soundray> SpudDogg: I see. Although it looks like it, you're not meant to type 'load'. Instead, follow the 6th line down (insmod).
[03:19] <slavik> tar cpf - -C /etc . | tar xpf - -C /destination/directory
[03:19] <slavik> :)
[03:19] <anon32> SpaceFrog, should I get the standalone or the installer?
[03:19] <gh0st> strabes: normally typing "amarok" as acommand should open it!? it doesn't work
[03:19] <slavik> _greg: as in, it doesn't save the gateway?
[03:19] <rbil> Megaqwerty: just install some Nautilus scripts to make life much easier for yourself ... see here for examples ... http://customdesign.homelinux.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=43
[03:19] <SpudDogg> soundray, yes, i did already skip to that one
[03:19] <SpaceFrog> anon32: The installer
[03:19] <SpudDogg> soundray, the module is loaded
[03:19] <vortex25> yay for flash 9!
[03:19] <anon32> SpaceFrog, what's the standalone do?
[03:19] <slavik> the beta is out? WHERE?!
[03:19] <_greg> slavik: yes...exactly
[03:19] <SpaceFrog> For playing swf files offline on your filesystem
[03:19] <bruenig> slavik, I just used cp and it copied the symlink...
[03:20] <SpaceFrog> the installer is the firefox integration
[03:20] <vortex25> slavik: one sec i'll get you a link
[03:20] <anon32> slavik, the adobe forum
[03:20] <anon32> it's not a true beta... missing some features, which makes it an alpha
[03:20] <vortex25> flash 9 - http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[03:20] <bruenig> slavik, nevermind only some of the symlinks are working
[03:20] <strabes> gh0st: are the command #'s corresponding? if you typed amarok into command_1, then you have to type the name of the button into run_command_1
[03:20] <slavik> bruenig: must be bad cp on freebsd :P
[03:20] <slavik> oh, ok
[03:20] <bruenig> some work some don'
[03:20] <bruenig> t
[03:20] <soundray> SpudDogg: now you'll have to do the STA stuff, which I can't help you with, because I compiled for the simpler rt2570 stuff.
[03:20] <SpudDogg> soundray, when i do the next command (ifconfig) it keeps telling me the device does not exist?
[03:20] <strabes> it's possible that those are not the correct names for the keys either
[03:21] <gh0st> strabes: yes
[03:21] <slavik> _greg: I dunno what to say
[03:21] <strabes> gh0st: ok i found the command that will tell you the names of the buttons
[03:21] <strabes> gh0st: type 'xev' in a terminal
[03:22] <soundray> SpudDogg: maybe it has a different name -- check with ifconfig -a
[03:22] <strabes> gh0st: then in the box press the buttons you want to use and see what it outputs
[03:22] <_greg> slavik...yeah it saves everything else, or seems to. Where can I enter it with nano?
[03:22] <gh0st> strabes: where should the output be?
[03:22] <SpudDogg> soundray, nope, its not there.  do you think a reboot would help?
[03:22] <slavik> man ifconfig, something should be there (note, I haven't looked much into the issue)
[03:22] <strabes> it's in the terminal
[03:22] <anon32> ifconfig == ipconfig ?
[03:23] <slavik> _greg: you should learn vim :)
[03:23] <Mad3Max3> soundray, doesn't seem to work anyway! sigh.. never thought installing drivers should all this work!
[03:23] <slavik> anon32: pretty much, but ifconfig is more powerful
[03:23] <studz> hi
[03:23] <Mad3Max3> be*
[03:23] <_greg> slavik....yeah i know.
[03:23] <slavik> anon32: ipconfig doesn't exist in *nix :P
[03:23] <gh0st> strabes: is it that? KeymapNotify event, serial 26, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
[03:23] <gh0st>     keys:  53  0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
[03:23] <gh0st>            0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
[03:23] <studz> can i talk to somebody here?
[03:23] <dabaR> no
[03:23] <slavik> anon32: ifconfig can change the MAC address of your network card and you can fake another computer on the network ;)
[03:23] <strabes> gh0st: hmm crap i'm not sure
[03:23] <_greg> slavik....thanks. amn ifconfig
[03:23] <anon32> :-P
[03:23] <slavik> !ask > studz
[03:24] <_greg> man that is
[03:24] <anon32> gah, crapflood
[03:24] <Flannel> studz: #ubuntu-offtopic for general chit chat, if that's what you're looking for
[03:24] <slavik> _greg: try man woman ...
[03:24] <gh0st> strabes: what would that mean?
[03:24] <slavik> woman is that which we know nothing about ...
[03:24] <_greg> slavik...wouldn't try anything else
[03:25] <soundray> Mad3Max3: blame the hardware manufacturers. If they were just cool enough to disclose their hardware specs, they'd have Linux drivers written for them. Instead they prefer this secrecy nonsense.
[03:25] <slavik> anon32: like what?
[03:25] <slavik> soundray: I think Microsoft is paying them off TBH ...
[03:25] <strabes> gh0st: sorry i dont really know what to tell you
[03:25] <slavik> soundray: Broadcom has a Linux driver for their wifi stuff, but they don't release it ... wonder why
[03:25] <bruenig> secrecy likely because there stuff is not all legit from what I heard. Some of their code may not exactly be original
[03:25] <anon32> slavik, opening network tools shows a dizzying number of simple DDoS tools
[03:25] <strabes> gh0st: you'll have to search on ubuntuforums or something
[03:25] <soundray> slavik: yes, with ATI/NVidia we can be pretty sure about that.
[03:26] <soundray> slavik: I didn't know about Broadcom
[03:26] <slavik> soundray: ATI/NVIDIA at least provide binary stuff
[03:26] <anon32> slavik, if they don't release it, how do you know they have it?
[03:26] <Megaqwerty> I'm still getting the errors
[03:26] <slavik> but a wifi chipset? come on ...
[03:26] <soundray> slavik: but they strike me as that kind of company
[03:26] <Megaqwerty> even in sudo cp -r in bash
[03:26] <Mad3Max3> soundray, Yes! But ppl get these drivers too work.. I must be doing something wrong..
[03:27] <slavik> anon32: Linksys made a router based on Linux with Bcom chipset, they were required to release firmware, only reason there is ANY bcom open source driver
[03:27] <slavik> Mad3Max3: what device?
[03:27] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: can you help? ^^
[03:27] <strabes> gh0st: sorry i couldn't help you; those are the only two ways i know of how to do multimedia keys, and they both work for me =\
[03:27] <wolfbane_691> i was wondering if some 1 can help i have some annoying issues with ubuntu
[03:27] <gh0st> strabes: it did work with keytouch!!!
[03:27] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, what is the error?
[03:27] <slavik> !ask > wolfbane_691
[03:27] <anon32> slavik, open source? is there a closed one then?
[03:27] <gh0st> strabes: at least one command
[03:27] <Megaqwerty> still the same
[03:27] <strabes> gh0st: sweet then why don't u just use that?
[03:28] <slavik> anon32: if you use the windows driver through ndis wrapper :P
[03:28] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, something about some screensaver file right?
[03:28] <talldave> just for information i have installed the Flashplayer 9 plugin and it seems to be working ok
[03:28] <wolfbane_691> shock wave flash player and gyach-E
[03:28] <Mad3Max3> slavik, Imon VFD drivers
[03:28] <gh0st> strabes: well because i tried almost all keyboards :-)
[03:28] <Megaqwerty> yeah, as well as a bunch of others
[03:28] <SpudDogg> soundray, is there an easier way to do this?  you said something about simpler (the way you did it)
[03:28] <strabes> gh0st: oh lol awesome
[03:28] <anon32> slavik, that works?
[03:28] <wolfbane_691> can some 1 pm me
[03:28] <wolfbane_691> please
[03:28] <soundray> SpudDogg: with a different (older) device, yes. Sorry...
[03:28] <strabes> wolfbane_691: just ask your question
[03:28] <slavik> anon32: man ethereal, man nmap, man ettercap, man kismet (if you want to see some network tools)
[03:28] <strabes> gh0st: so is it working for all your buttons?
[03:29] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: ^^
[03:29] <slavik> Mad3Max3: pardon my ignorance, but what is that?
[03:29] <anon32> strabes, clearly this has to do with pr0n
[03:29] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, may be a permissions issue, /etc should have 755 permissions
[03:29] <anon32> wolfbane_691, we're all nerds, don't be embaressed
[03:29] <Megaqwerty> um...how do I check that?
[03:29] <anon32> slavik, :-P
[03:29] <wolfbane_691> oh im not embaressed
[03:29] <strabes> anon32: what? lol
[03:29] <SpudDogg> soundray, ok.  well, now i rebooted and tried to reload the module with '/sbin/insmod rt73.ko' and i get the error file not found
[03:29] <slavik> anon32: just use wikipedia since those man pages wouldn't be installed by default
[03:29] <rbil> Megaqwerty: what are you trying to do?
[03:29] <strabes> anon32: hopefully not pr0n lol
[03:29] <wolfbane_691> im a complete noob to linux
[03:29] <anon32> Megaqwerty, use "ls -l /"
[03:30] <Mad3Max3> slavik, lol. well it's the drivers for my USB display screen on my HTPC case.. it's manufactured by imon..
[03:30] <talisein> !info pornview
[03:30] <soundray> SpudDogg: you have to change to the dir where you did the compile.
[03:30] <ubotu> pornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 608 kB
[03:30] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, do ls -l /|grep etc, it should look like this drwxr-xr-x
[03:30] <anon32> slavik, lol
[03:30] <Megaqwerty> drwxr-xr-x
[03:30] <Megaqwerty> yeah
[03:30] <strabes> then just ask your question wolfbane_691
[03:30] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, what is the actual error message
[03:30] <wolfbane_691> how do i get those things running
[03:30] <slavik> Mad3Max3: have you tried google at all? because you should be detecting a video card there and then setting up xorg.conf properly to have a session on the screen
[03:30] <gh0st> strabes: yes! thank you!
[03:31] <strabes> gh0st: awesome glad to help you out
[03:31] <slavik> Mad3Max3: do 'lspci' and post the text into pastebin
[03:31] <slavik> !pastebin
[03:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:31] <Madpilot> wolfbane_691, what things?
[03:31] <slavik> not into the channel
[03:31] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: Would you like to continue?
[03:31] <strabes> wolfbane_691: get what things running
[03:31] <Megaqwerty> Error "Operation not permitted" while copying "/etc/X11/a...creenSaver".
[03:31] <Megaqwerty> sorry, didn't copy the whole thing
[03:31] <talisein> !info wesnoth >anon32
[03:31] <ubotu> wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1+reverted+to+1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1541 kB, installed size 3436 kB
[03:31] <wolfbane_691> flashplayer shock wave gyach-E
[03:31] <SpudDogg> soundray, ok, that worked...im an idiot
[03:31] <SpudDogg> lol
[03:31] <Megaqwerty> then i get after saying skip: Error "Operation not permitted" while copying "/etc/X11/gdm".
[03:32] <strabes> wolfbane_691 use automatix www.getautomatix.com it makes all that kind of stuff really easy
[03:32] <VPN> hello
[03:32] <LjL> !automatix > strabes
[03:32] <LjL> !automatix > wolfbane_691
[03:32] <wolfbane_691> i was told to stay away from it
[03:32] <anon32> talisein, but does it rival commercial games?
[03:32] <VPN> how do i install acidrip in ubuntu
[03:32] <talisein> anon32: yeah
[03:32] <Flannel> wolfbane_691: correctly so
[03:32] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: those are some of the messages
[03:32] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell wolfbane_691 about flash
[03:32] <talisein> anon32: Its a pretty good SRPG, full story and everything
[03:32] <strabes> ljl  - i know dude i'm just telling him
[03:32] <anon32> talisein, it says that it's 4MB///
[03:32] <Madpilot> VPN, it's in Multiverse
[03:33] <Megaqwerty> brueing: I get either skip, cancel, or retry as options
[03:33] <soundray> SpudDogg: best if you 'cp rt73.ko /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/usb/net/ ; depmod -a'. After that you will be able to just 'modprobe rt73' anywhere in the filesystem.
[03:33] <Flannel> strabes: please don't recommend automatix here
[03:33] <LjL> strabes: well... don't. at least not without a huge warning if you really have to.
[03:33] <talisein> anon32: lol, that's surprising. Maybe there is a wesnoth-art package
[03:33] <Mad3Max3> slavik, videocard.. it,s just a little small Vacuum fluorescent display .. I don't think a videocard is needed for it..
[03:33] <soundray> SpudDogg: you can then also add 'rt73' to /etc/modules
[03:33] <Nickless> I want to connect internet on my ubuntu system.. and my service provider using ISA server ..how can I connect Internet...anyone help?
[03:33] <rbil> could it be having a problem copying XScreenSaver which is link?
[03:33] <anon32> commercial games would be Final Fantasy XIII, Half-Life 2, and Far Cry
[03:33] <wolfbane_691> what is so bad about it
[03:33] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, well the first one appears to be referring to /etc/X11/app-defaults/XScreenSaver
[03:33] <Megaqwerty> right
[03:33] <talisein> !info wesnoth-data
[03:33] <ubotu> wesnoth-data: data files for Wesnoth. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1+reverted+to+1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 15898 kB, installed size 30660 kB
[03:33] <SpudDogg> soundray, yes, im adding it to /etc/modules so it will just load at boot
[03:33] <Nickless> I want to connect internet on my ubuntu system.. and my service provider using ISA server ..how can I connect Internet...anyone help?
[03:33] <strabes> flannel: why not?
[03:33] <talisein> !info wesnoth-httt
[03:33] <ubotu> wesnoth-httt: Heir to the Throne official campaign for Wesnoth. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1+reverted+to+1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 5362 kB, installed size 7816 kB
[03:34] <strabes> what is the big problem with automatix geez
[03:34] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, those are all symbolic links
[03:34] <soundray> SpudDogg: you need to do the above maneouvre before that will work.
[03:34] <Flannel> strabes: because it does more harm than good, and it's not a good idea to suggest things that break peoples systems
[03:34] <Megaqwerty> burening: meaning...what?
[03:34] <SpudDogg> soundray, ok, thanks
[03:34] <anon32> talisein, still not large enough... 17M can't compete with a 4.5G eyecandy game
[03:34] <wolfbane_691> ahh ok
[03:34] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, must be like sivik was saying, it has issues copying symbolic links over
[03:34] <Nickless> I want to connect internet on my ubuntu system.. and my service provider using ISA server ..how can I connect Internet...anyone help?
[03:34] <anon32> *cough* oblivion
[03:34] <Megaqwerty> briening: what are symbolic links?
[03:34] <strabes> hmm it has never hurt my system =\
[03:34] <soundray> SpudDogg: welcome. Hope you get it working. I need to get some sleep now before work starts in <5h.
[03:34] <LjL> strabes, #ubuntu-offtopic for this discussion
[03:34] <LjL> !works for me > strabes
[03:34] <rabautz> Nickless: we had one at isa-server at school. I built a VPN with openvpn to my home-server to get out ;)
[03:35] <franz_mobile> I need some help
[03:35] <rbil> can one pm on this channel?
[03:35] <VPN> madpilot: it says lsdvd broken packages  i am lost
[03:35] <talisein> bah. all that matters is fun.
[03:35] <wolfbane_691> it says i can copy 2 files in to my browsers plug in folder for flash player
[03:35] <Flannel> rbil: this server, yes.  but you need to be registered and identified to services (/msg nickserv help register)
[03:35] <wolfbane_691> where is browsers plug in folders
[03:35] <Nickless> rabautz: If you can't help then shut your fuckin' mouth ....gotcha!!
[03:35] <wolfbane_691> on firefox
[03:35] <talisein> !language
[03:35] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:35] <LjL> !language > Nickless
[03:35] <SpudDogg> soundray, i get the error 'FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/modules.dep.temp for writing: Permission denied'
[03:35] <wastrel> !language
[03:36] <anon32> !language
[03:36] <Madpilot> Nickless, randomly abusing people is not going to get anyone else to help you any faster...
[03:36] <soundray> SpudDogg: sorry, yo need to sudo that
[03:36] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, a symbolic link is a file that refers to another file
[03:36] <LjL> !msg the bot
[03:36] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[03:36] <SpudDogg> soundray, i did sudo it
[03:36] <dabaR> !language
[03:36] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:36] <Megaqwerty> ah
[03:36] <Megaqwerty> ok, thanks
[03:36] <studz> me...filipino ba d2?
[03:36] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, you could follow sivik and tar the directory, move that tar then extract, little more work
[03:36] <Madpilot> !ph
[03:36] <Megaqwerty> bruinig: so how would I back up my importaint system files?
[03:36] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[03:36] <Megaqwerty> *important
[03:37] <soundray> SpudDogg: 'sudo depmod -a'?
[03:37] <SpudDogg> soundray, that went
[03:37] <wolfbane_691> any 1 know where browsers plugin folder on firefox
[03:37] <VPN> how do i install acidrip when system complains about broken package lsdvd?
[03:38] <anon32> VPN, fix it
[03:38] <Mad3Max3> slavik, I have posted it in pastebin
[03:38] <hobbesmaster> wolfbane_691: you trying to install the flash 9 plugin?
[03:38] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, tar them I suppose.
[03:38] <wolfbane_691> yeah
[03:38] <deltab> ~/.mozilla/plugins
[03:38] <VPN> anon32:how do i fix it probably show have been my question
[03:38] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: ok, how would I do that (sorry for the noobish question)
[03:38] <wolfbane_691> and where does that go?
[03:38] <hobbesmaster> wolfbane_691, you'll have to crate the directory ~/.mozilla/plugins and dump the .so in there
[03:38] <anon32> VPN, sudo apt-get -f install
[03:38] <Megaqwerty> I've never compressed something in linux before
[03:38] <hobbesmaster> just like the readme says :)
[03:39] <SpudDogg> soundray, this is too much for me right now.  i think i might just return this card
[03:39] <whaley> does anyone know the maximum number of files a ext3 partition can hold?
[03:39] <wolfbane_691> how do i do that
[03:39] <SpudDogg> soundray, if you're not too busy, would you consider remote desktoping in to help me?
[03:39] <julio_> hola hello
[03:40] <Megaqwerty> !tar
[03:40] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[03:40] <rbil> ok, I think I registered. can I pm anyone to test it?
[03:40] <soundray> SpudDogg: I know the feeling. Trouble is, all current cards (that I could find) are difficult or impossible at the moment.
[03:40] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, for instance to tar your etc directory the following command would do "sudo tar -cvpf backupetc.tar /etc" for an uncompressed tar or if you want to compress it just add a z "sudo tar -cvpzf backupetc.tar /etc
[03:40] <soundray> SpudDogg: in principle, yes, but not now.
[03:40] <deltab> whaley: depends on the number of inodes assigned to it when it was created
[03:40] <hobbesmaster> whaley: V/(2^23) where V is the size of the ext3 partition in bytes
[03:40] <deltab> whaley: df -i
[03:40] <anon32> someone point out a test page for flash 9?
[03:40] <anon32> file-roller sucks for 7z..
[03:41] <marc_> Adobe
[03:41] <talisein> whaley: Volumesize / (2^13) (wikipedia: ext3)
[03:41] <SpudDogg> soundray, well, i definately appreciate your help man...you are the man.   i have 30 days to return the card, so if i/you cannot get it working by then, i'll return the freaking thing
[03:41] <whaley> ahhh, danke sirs :)
[03:41] <marc_> Platyer.....has a tester
[03:41] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: THANKS!!!!!
[03:41] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, those flags stand for, c means create, v means verbose so that it tells you what is happening, p means preserve the permissions, f means force so that it won't ask you on every file if you want to add that, z means zip or compress
[03:41] <whaley> deltab: useful argument to df... i wasn't aware of that
[03:41] <Megaqwerty> it worked thank the lord
[03:42] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: how would I un-tar it?
[03:42] <Megaqwerty> if I need to do so
[03:42] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, sudo tar xf backupetc.tar
[03:42] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: thanks again.
[03:42] <sproingie> zxf if it's compressed
[03:42] <anon32> hmm....
[03:43] <Mad3Max3> slavik or soundray, here is the url to the page with the drivers and their install notes.. maybe u can get some sence out of it!  http://venky.ws/projects/imon/ .. it's the standalone drivers
[03:43] <talisein> gah.
[03:43] <bawnpa> ewe
[03:43] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, actually you should keep the p in there now that I think of it, if you wanted to untar it and replace the /etc directory had you ruined it or whatnot it would be "sudo tar xpvf backupetc.tar -C /etc"
[03:43] <rbil> wow!
[03:44] <Sonic|Laptop> fun stuff
[03:44] <rbil> someone cut a cord?
[03:44] <bruenig> gees
[03:44] <Mad3Max3> I repost my last message "slavik or soundray, here is the url to the page with the drivers and their install notes.. maybe u can get some sence out of it!  http://venky.ws/projects/imon/ .. it's the standalone drivers"
[03:44] <genus5> wth just happened
[03:44] <Phlosten> whaley: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[03:44] <Phlosten> oops, my bad :)
[03:44] <bimberi> !netsplit
[03:45] <bruenig> lol
[03:45] <bruenig> this is fun
[03:45] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[03:45] <Phlosten> heh
[03:45] <FinFanFan> funny
[03:45] <bruenig> well this server wins because we kept 600 + whereas they must have less than 400
[03:46] <Luakagon> pop that corn :I
[03:46] <talisein> so is there no way for this channel to have someone get ops?
[03:46] <bruenig> * _Tristan_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[03:46] <bruenig> talisein, use the !ops trigger
[03:46] <bimberi> talisein: there are ops around, is there an issue?
[03:46] <talisein> no, just wondering
[03:46] <bruenig> !hi
[03:46] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:47] <Madpilot> talisein, there are several ops around, but they don't run op'd all the time
[03:47] <FinFanFan> wow, welcome back :)
[03:47] <rbil> clearing out the lurkers :-)
[03:47] <talisein> ty
[03:47] <Madpilot> talisein, and that ops tell - that's like dialling 911, don't hit it just to get attention please.
[03:48] <talisein> ? I didn't ? but ok. ;)
[03:49] <gh0st> how can i set a command on specific time, for ex. shutdown pc at xx hour ?
[03:49] <rbil> marc_: if you run something like ethereal you can capture the packets and actually see what is happening and why the smtp server isn't connecting with you.
[03:50] <rabautz> gh0st: cron?
[03:50] <bawnpa> gh0st, with crontab
[03:50] <gh0st> well i can't find it in synaptic
[03:50] <Shadow_mil> how can I become a XDMCP host?
[03:50] <bimberi> gh0st: for one-off commands - look at the 'at' command.  Repeated commands - cron
[03:50] <marc_> rbil.....how can I do that?
[03:50] <bawnpa> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crontab   nice article there about it
[03:50] <bruenig> the wonderful world of crontab gh0st, it is not a gui program, you have to edit text files
[03:50] <rabautz> gh0st: crontab -e
[03:50] <lufis> I've noticed that although bz2 compression is better, most people stick to gz... why is this?
[03:50] <gh0st> but i can't instal
[03:50] <gh0st> it
[03:51] <gh0st> it's not even in the repos
[03:51] <rbil> marc_: do what? install ethereal? or use ethereal? can hardly explain the latter in this venue.
[03:51] <rabautz> gh0st: Its already there ...
[03:51] <gh0st> bimberi: can you tell me a bit more
[03:51] <bimberi> s/bz2/linux/  s/gz/windows/
[03:51] <talisein> lufis: bz2 is newer, less widely available. Also, I don't know if BSD has a bz2 tool
[03:51] <marc_> use ethereal
[03:51] <lufis> talisein: Ahh, ok
[03:51] <lufis> talisein: Thankie
[03:51] <gh0st> rabautz: ok, so what should i enter for pc to shut down
[03:51] <im247blk> Hi everybody, can someone hlp me with a prnt setup prob - Dapper, HP-Dj540C, Parallel prt
[03:52] <gh0st> rabautz: can i use "sudo" too?
[03:52] <rbil> marc_: it's really simple, but can't explain it here to you. just google for ethereal. you'll be able to see the packets as they go out and the response from the server
[03:52] <talisein> lufis: also higher CPU time I think, which might be significant for older machines
[03:52] <bimberi> gh0st: what do you want to do? shutdown every day at a particular time?
[03:52] <marc_> rbil....thanks.....I will give it a go.
[03:53] <rabautz> gh0st: only if you use the "NOPASSWD"-option in /etc/sudoers, bu tyou can use roots crontab ..
[03:53] <gh0st> bimberi: no, just one time
[03:53] <Mad3Max3> slavik, did u see the pastebin? and what is your thought about it?
[03:53] <rbil> marc_: just run ethereal and start capturing packets, then try to smtp to your server. stop ethereal and look at what happened.
[03:53] <gh0st> rabautz: sudo crontab -e ?
[03:53] <rabautz> gh0st: yes
[03:53] <gh0st> rabautz; what does "# m h  dom mon dow   command" mean?
[03:54] <AdamMK> where are the C header files located?
[03:54] <hobbesmaster> AdamMK: you'll have to be a bit more specific on that one
[03:54] <rabautz> gh0st: read a howto .. minute hour day_of_month month day_of_week AFAIR
[03:54] <rbil> gh0st: looks like a crontab line
[03:55] <slavik> Mad3Max3: no, sorry ... gimmie like 10 min, going to reboot into edgy, update, get media working and install the beta flash :D
[03:55] <talisein> # Minute Hour DayOfMonth Month DayOfWeek
[03:55] <bimberi> gh0st: 'man at' will give you instructions on that command (if you choose to do it that way)
[03:55] <gh0st> rabautz: if i just give a time, will it take make it every day at this time?
[03:55] <im247blk> I cnt get prntg to wrk on my live CD Dapper can  someone hlp
[03:56] <AdamMK> i'm installing VMware Server Console and it asks: "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" and give the suggested directory: /usr/src/linux/include/
[03:56] <AdamMK> but when i use the suggested it says it doesn't exist/isn't the right one
[03:56] <SuperMiguel> if i have 70 folders on my desktop and i want to copy all of them which command will be the one that i need to use, cp -a /var/music??
[03:57] <fdsd> yes FLASH 9!!!
[03:57] <bruenig> gh0st, what I did and this was a while back was add my username in /etc/cron.allow, so do sudo gedit /etc/cron.allow and just type your username and save. And then just do "crontab -e" and then put the appropriate information.
[03:57] <fdsd> whoohoo!!
[03:57] <talisein> SuperMiguel: "cp -a ~/Desktop/* /var/music" will copy everything on your desktop to /var/music
[03:57] <gh0st> bruenig: if i just set the time+command: will it execute it every day at this time?
[03:58] <hobbesmaster> AdamMK: you don't have the kernel source by default, you need the linux-headers-YOUR_KERNEL_VERSION_HERE-686 package
[03:58] <bruenig> gh0st, did you not read that article, it is pretty good at explaining the syntax of the file
[03:58] <bruenig> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crontab
[03:58] <SuperMiguel>  sudo cp -a .* /var/music will do the same?
[03:59] <talisein> or the man page, which has many examples
[03:59] <rbil> AdamMK: do uname -r to get the kernel name and then the headers you'll need to install
[03:59] <gh0st> bruenig: thx for link
[03:59] <talisein> SuperMiguel: ./* might be better. I don't know if .* matches .. which might be bad.
[04:00] <talisein> SuperMiguel: or just * if you are in that directory
[04:02] <marc_> rbil: so I went to THunderbird....and confirgured the same e-mail address....and was able to manipulate the SMTP port without question...and It's all working.
[04:02] <marc_> why not able to configure port settings on "Evolution"
[04:02] <AdamMK> ok found it now 1 sec while i go back through the installation
[04:03] <Rockj> how do I pass the expert option on bootup when installing ubuntu?
[04:03] <Rockj> is it just to press f5/f6? and add   expert?
[04:04] <talisein> whatever button it is to get to the boot line, then type in expert instead of linux
[04:04] <abyss> anyone can help me with gettin my vmware work?
[04:04] <abyss> what means : What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[04:04] <abyss> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
[04:04] <rabautz> marc_: I'm quite sure you could have just write your smtp-server in the form: mx.myprovider.com:25 where 25 is the port to use ..
[04:05] <talisein> didn't we just answer that? that was someone else...
[04:05] <abyss> where i get the matching C Headerfiles?
[04:05] <talisein> abyss: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-YOUR_KERNEL-VERSION_HERE
[04:05] <cafuego> Specifically, 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[04:05] <talisein> yeah
[04:06] <im247blk> Hi, can anyone help me get printing on Dapper Drake? Read the FAQs, Googled, still no go!!
[04:06] <marc_> rab: I tried that ...but it still was not working...
[04:06] <talisein> im247blk: what printer?
[04:07] <im247blk> talisein: HP-DJ-540C, parall prt
[04:07] <SuperMiguel> when you set a hosted page with any servidor they ask you do you want to make with linux or with windows operating system with page is better?
[04:08] <gh0st> "sudo shutdown now" will shutdown the computer, right?
[04:08] <AdamMK> thank you guys it got past that step
[04:08] <talisein> gh0st: yes
[04:09] <rabautz> gh0st: yes. NOW .. ;)
[04:09] <QMario> Yes!
[04:09] <QMario> Flash 9!!!!
[04:09] <AdamMK> thanks hommesmaster and rbil
[04:09] <marc_> CIao FOlks...Enjoy.
[04:10] <cafuego> Woo! new closed-source software with unknown bugs!
[04:10] <sipher> Anyone running Opera?
[04:10] <gh0st> is it possible to specify a time when the pc will be shut down -without cron or similar - just with shutdown?
[04:10] <nylund> flash9???
[04:10] <cafuego> gh0st: yes
[04:10] <talisein> im247blk: so System->Printing->Add a new printer->Select Parrellel port -> HP- -> Deskjet 540C doesn't work?
[04:11] <gh0st> cafuego: how would you enter shutdown at 2:00h for ex.?
[04:11] <cafuego> gh0st: As opposed to 'now' you could enter a time.
[04:11] <cafuego> gh0st: sudo shutdown -h 2:00
[04:11] <gh0st> thanks cafuego
[04:11] <cafuego> gh0st: See also 'shutdown -h -t 3600
[04:12] <im247blk> talisein: Prntr Typ -> Local but no prntr detected  and Prntr_Port ->hp no_device_found???
[04:12] <cafuego> (shuts down in 1 hour from now)
[04:12] <gh0st> cafuego: what's that?
[04:12] <talisein> im247blk: yes
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible to suspend/hiberate the computer and have it _wake up_ at a specified time?
[04:13] <gh0st> cafuego: what does 'shutdown -h -t 3600 do?
[04:13] <cafuego> gh0st: Shuts the machine down in 3600 seconds (an hour)
[04:13] <rbil> if it is suspended what would be "thinking" of restarting it?
[04:13] <im247blk> talisein: whn I add the prnt, look for driver nothing hapns, also cant find /dev/lp0...lp1 but parport and lp found
[04:14] <sproingie> windows could wake my laptop from suspend at a specific time
[04:14] <sproingie> not gonna work with hibernate tho, when it's hibernating, it's *off*
[04:14] <talisein> im247blk: is there a 540 listed under Printers now?
[04:14] <rbil> really Windoze can do that?
[04:14] <rbil> how does it do that?
[04:15] <sproingie> rbil: i suspect there's bios support for it
[04:15] <im247blk> talisein: Yes. I select it and hit apply but nada... no prntr added...???
[04:15] <rbil> must be bios
[04:15] <Halpo> what are your guys opinions on kde vs gnome?
[04:15] <deltab> rbil: the motherboard clock has an alarm setting which can be used to power on the machine
[04:15] <rbil> usde kde for years, love gnome!
[04:15] <rbil> used
[04:15] <cafuego> Halpo: irrelevant
[04:15] <talisein> right click and go to properties.. connection. in that clickdown thing, there's no option for the parport?
[04:16] <talisein> Halpo: use what you like most, not what we like ;)
[04:16] <Halpo> im just trying to figure out what the real differences are
[04:16] <Halpo> is one easier to use for those new to linux
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> sproingie, rbil: I have something in the bios about waking it, but it doesn't seem to work.
[04:17] <rbil> Halpo: is more windows-like, imho
[04:17] <Halpo> kde?
[04:17] <leftjustified> Halpo: gnome tries to be easy.
[04:17] <rbil> wake on lan?
[04:17] <talisein> GNOME has a more structured, standard interface and also has a strong focus on accessability. KDE has a less structured, but more.. featureful? Or at least easier to modify features approach.
[04:17] <tech13> attempting to play a DVD on my machine via the DVD+-R drive (the only DVD drive on the computer) and it causes my machine to hard crash when opening a folder to the DVD or attempting to play. (hard crash as in, no keyboard, no mouse, no ping from another machine)  Where should I start looking for the answer?
[04:17] <im247blk> talisein: this is all in step 2 of 3: Printer Driver...
[04:17] <buffer> is
[04:17] <buffer> is xchat broken?
[04:18] <buffer> Ever
[04:18] <buffer> in the text-version right now.
[04:18] <buffer> can't seem to get it to work..
[04:18] <buffer> complaining about python
[04:18] <talisein> im247blk: oh. Just click forward, does it go to the next page?
[04:18] <abyss> anyone can tell me how i can export a path forever? actually i have to export it every time after reboot :(
[04:19] <pluto> Hi all.  I have a question.  I'm running 2 computers ( 1 with XP & 1 with Ubuntu) How can I network them together to transfer a file from XP to Ubuntu?
[04:19] <deltab> abyss: it'll only affect the process it's done in and its subsequent children, while that process runs
[04:19] <rbil> pluto: setup samba on linux side
[04:19] <julian> anyone know how to install ati driver in edgy
[04:19] <abyss> pluto: think samba is the solution
[04:19] <im247blk> talisein: Yes. Step 3 of 3: Printer Info -> Apply -> but no printer gets added
[04:19] <deltab> abyss: but you can put it in a file to be executed automatically every time
[04:19] <talisein> im247blk: drat. Well, your printer is turned on right?
[04:19] <rabautz> pluto: You could install eg ftpd on linux and then use a ftp-client on windows .. or samba like abyss told ..
[04:20] <rbil> pluto: samba client would be sufficient and you'd then have access to Windoze shares
[04:20] <pluto> rbil: What do I physically need - Do I need a hub?
[04:20] <sethk> pluma_, easiest way is to install cygwin on the windows box
[04:20] <sethk> pluma_, sorry
[04:20] <xroach> hi
[04:20] <rbil> pluto: if you want to share from linux to windoze, then the samba server required
[04:20] <sethk> pluto, easiest thing is to install cygwin on the windows box
[04:20] <blind> I installed Flash 9 into Firefox using CXOffice, and I want to uninstall it. I uninstalled it via CXOffice, then installed flash 7, but the Flash 9 pop up must have come up while i was typing, and it reinstalled itself. How can I uninstall it for good?
[04:20] <deltab> abyss: e.g ~/.bashrc
[04:20] <sethk> pluto, for just two boxes you can use a crossover cable
[04:20] <xroach> what might be wrong when my ubuntu always freezes when i use skype
[04:20] <rabautz> pluto: hub, switch or cross-over-cable ..
[04:20] <abyss> deltab: export UT_DATA_PATH=/usr/local/games/ut/System can i make this permanent?
[04:20] <im247blk> talisein: Printer attached and turned on, tried CMOS set in ECC as well as Bi-Direct mode, nothing...
[04:20] <sethk> pluto, more than two you need a switch or hub.  Since switches these days are as cheap as hubs, don't use a hub
[04:20] <talisein> im247blk: ah, CMOS was next thing. Hmm.
[04:21] <deltab> abyss: add it to .bash_profile or .bashrc
[04:21] <rbil> xroach: maybe the audio driver it's using?
[04:21] <pluto> sethk: is a switch different than a 4 port router?
[04:21] <abyss> deltab: where i find them?
[04:21] <sethk> pluto, there is no such thing as a 4 port router.  what that is, is a 4 port switch and a router in the same box.
[04:21] <im247blk> talisein: Did notice that no /dev/lp0...lp2 present when ls /dev/lp*
[04:21] <dredhammer> hello all , i'm trying to install Kino and all the addons as listed here : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Video_Editor_.28Kino.29
[04:21] <dredhammer> but
[04:21] <pluto> sethk: sorry 4 port switch.
[04:21] <xroach> rb1l and it also freezes when moving files through samba
[04:21] <im247blk> !printer
[04:21] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:21] <dredhammer> i get only as far as Kino itself
[04:21] <dredhammer> kinoplus and all the others
[04:22] <sethk> pluto, wha t I meant is that you have a switch and a router combination there.
[04:22] <dredhammer> won't install via synaptic or apt-get
[04:22] <sethk> pluto, no need for an additional switch
[04:22] <dredhammer> i tried to compile them
[04:22] <pluto> sethk: so that will work to physically move files?
[04:22] <sethk> pluto, yes
[04:22] <dredhammer> but they say i'm missing gnome-libs
[04:22] <talisein> im247blk: um, when I click apply, even though I don't have anything attached I get the printer to show up in Printers..
[04:22] <dredhammer> but i have that installed
[04:22] <pluto> sethk: good! :)  Where do I get Samba?
[04:22] <sethk> pluto, and you can use scp and/or sftp software..
[04:22] <rbil> xroach: do the logs tell you anything. shouldn't be having these probs
[04:22] <sethk> pluto, you don't need samba just to transfer files
[04:22] <sethk> pluto, you need samba to mount windows shares on the linux box
[04:23] <im247blk> talisein: Only clue I have to go on is missing /dev/lp* files...
[04:23] <sethk> pluto, or to use a windows printer on the linux box, etc.
[04:23] <talisein> im247blk: Under description, type in some text there on step 3 and try to apply
[04:23] <sethk> pluto, just to transfer files, you can use openssh (which includes the sftp and scp, secure ftp and secure copy, utilities)
[04:23] <xroach> rbil wich logs?
[04:23] <abyss> pluto: a graphical X Tool for browsing network might be linneighbourhood (dont know is speeling is right ^^)
[04:23] <im247blk> talisein: been there, done that... stll nada!!
[04:23] <xroach> im pretty new with linux.....
[04:24] <rbil> xroach: /var/log
[04:24] <rbil> maybe messages
[04:24] <sethk> pluto, did you understand what I meant about when you need samba, and when you don't?
[04:24] <sethk> pluto, I'm not sure I was clear.
[04:24] <pluto> sethk: so samba is installed on the linux box?
[04:24] <sethk> pluto, correct
[04:24] <Alakazamz0r> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8364765888913844739&q=midget+breakdancing
[04:24] <Alakazamz0r> oops, wrong window
[04:24] <abyss> where i find the .bash_profile or .bashrc
[04:24] <abyss> ?
[04:24] <rbil> pluto: install samba server on Linux box and then you can simply rightclick on a folder and share it with a windoze box. very easy to do.
[04:25] <sethk> xroach, do this:   ls -ltr /var/log       that will print the files in reverse time order.  the last file printed is the one most recently changed.  that's where you might find useful info in the log
[04:25] <sethk> xroach, although most of the time on that type of crash you don't find anything in the logs.  but it's worth checking.
[04:25] <pluto> rbil: Sounds too easy.  Do I need to have a fat partition on my linux box?
[04:25] <sethk> pluto, no
[04:25] <rbil> pluto: no
[04:25] <sethk> pluto, it is easy.
[04:25] <talisein> im247blk: from terminal: "lsmod |grep parport"
[04:26] <pluto> sethk: can I do "apt-get install samba"?
[04:26] <sethk> pluto, you create a samba file system, from the kernel perspective (-t smbfs if you mount at the command line)
[04:26] <sethk> pluto, I'm not sure if that's the exact package name.  I'll check.
[04:26] <rabautz> abyss: cd; ls -al | grep bash
[04:27] <sethk> pluto, yes, package samba.  also install package samba-doc
[04:27] <rabautz> abyss: its in your home-directory ..
[04:27] <pluto> sethk: samba-doc I assume is the manual?
[04:27] <im247blk> talisein: parpot_pc and ppdev, lp,  parport_pc
[04:27] <sethk> pluto, right, man pages, docs.
[04:27] <talisein> im247blk: do you have a /dev/parport0?
[04:28] <sethk> pluto, after you install, look in /usr/share/doc/samba-doc
[04:28] <xroach> then i have also another problem . my ubuntu boots extremely slow, it uses several minutes in the network stuff while booting, is it because i use wifi?
[04:28] <rbil> pluto: samba can be very involved. don't get bogged down, install samba server, right click on a folder in linux and share it.
[04:28] <Rookie_> or man samba
[04:28] <pluto> sethk: I'm a linux newbie, but can I install both samba and docs from the same command line?
[04:28] <im247blk> talise: No. ls: /dev/par*: No such file or directory
[04:28] <sethk> pluto, yes.    What exactly is that?
[04:31] <sethk> pluto, it's a server that apt-get searches for packages
[04:32] <pluto> sethk: Can I controll which servers apt-get searches?
[04:32] <rbil> sethk: don't confuse with supositories, they go in the other end :-)
[04:32] <im247blk> talisein: The prt prnts fine undr Win-doesn't
[04:32] <sethk> pluto, sure.  at the command line you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:32] <talisein> im247blk: heh
[04:32] <sethk> pluto, or in synaptic you chose repositories from the menus.
[04:32] <Led_Zeppelin> I am running Ubuntu 64bit, how can I get a plugin for Flash/
[04:33] <Led_Zeppelin> ?
[04:33] <sethk> pluto, end result is the same, just different interfaces.
[04:33] <talisein> im247blk: you have a lp1 but not lp0?
[04:33] <uberspaced> where would I put a startup script for something like say, a database?
[04:33] <uberspaced> like postgres?
[04:33] <sethk> pluto, if you edit the file, putting a "#" at the beginning of the line removes the line.
[04:33] <im247blk> talisein: The laptop I'm doin ths on is a WinXp box that prints to the HP prntr and wrks but not when Ubuntu booted
[04:34] <pluto> sethk: Thanks for your help.  I know I've seen synaptic before, but cannot remember where (under what menu).
[04:34] <sethk> uberspaced, you can put it in rc.local.  there are several places you can use.
[04:34] <Homer> does upstart decrease the loading time of Ubuntu?
[04:34] <sethk> pluto, just type     sudo synaptic         at the command line
[04:34] <whyso> hi, could someone poitn me to a fast mirrior for dling kubuntu please im in a big hurry!
[04:34] <sethk> pluto, I have no idea what menu it's on, I find menus hard to use, since I can type.  :)
[04:34] <Homer> !kubuntu
[04:34] <pluto> sethk: easy enough!
[04:34] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org for support: #kubuntu ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:34] <uberspaced> sethk, i think i'll do the rc.local thing i guess; i dont know what's proper in this case ;)
[04:35] <rabautz> whyso: where are you from? ;)
[04:35] <whyso> va usa
[04:35] <sethk> uberspaced, the "correct" thing to do is probably to add it to the list of scripts associated with a run level (or levels), but it's a bit trickier.
[04:35] <whyso> i know where main dl is pluto, its just going megaslow and i need it fast L:(
[04:35] <uberspaced> sethk, documentation, please
[04:35] <uberspaced> and where should I put the actual script?
[04:36] <talisein> im247blk: do you have any /dev/lp0 or /dev/lp1?
[04:36] <sethk> uberspaced, the convention is to put the script in /etc/init.d, and then to put sym links to the script in the various run level directories.
[04:36] <Homer> does upstart decrease the loading time of Ubuntu?
[04:36] <sethk> uberspaced, e.g., /etc/rc1.d is the directory for run level 1.
[04:36] <Led_Zeppelin> how can I get a 32bit version of firefox for my 64bit installtaion?
[04:36] <im247blk> talisein: no /dev/lp*
[04:36] <sethk> uberspaced, /etc/rc2.d, etc.
[04:36] <danilo_> ubuntu br
[04:36] <danilo_> serve
[04:36] <uberspaced> sethk, redhat had something called chkconfig
[04:37] <uberspaced> is there something similar in ubuntu?
[04:37] <sethk> uberspaced, ubuntu has a similar program.  I don't use it, but someone here will know.
[04:37] <pluto> sethk: There are 4 options under samba - Samba, Samba-common, Samba-dpg, Samba Docs.
[04:37] <uberspaced> basically, you drop a script somewhere, then use chkconfig to specify run levels.
[04:37] <sethk> pluto, you can install all of them.
[04:37] <danilo_> link ubuntu br for irc
[04:38] <sethk> pluto, you don't need to, though, because the dependencies will cause them to be installed anyway
[04:38] <rbil> samba-common will be pulled in when you install samba
[04:38] <sethk> pluto, e.g., if you install samba, you'll get samba-common because of the dependency.
[04:38] <pluto> sethk: oh, so samba needs samba-common to run, right?
[04:39] <uberspaced> update-rc.d looks promising.
[04:39] <sethk> pluto, yes.
[04:39] <sethk> uberspaced, yes, it does.  sounds a bit familiar also.  :)
[04:39] <iammisc> so im using the ubuntu livecd and everything's working. got 3d acceleration, and wireless is fine. sound works too.
[04:40] <jcsteele> i have two exact hard drives, 160 gigs, one has an NTFS partition and has about 6 gigs of free space, i just placed the other drive in the machine, and created an ext3 partition on the drive, fully utilizing the free space...however when i try to copy the data over it runs out of room on the ext3 drive....is there a reason for this?
[04:40] <uberspaced> sethk, it's all comin back to me now; i should have it figured out soon :)
[04:40] <sethk> uberspaced, it's not difficult.
[04:40] <rabautz> uberspaced: When you install postgresql from the ubuntu-repositories the automatic start should be enabled per default ..
[04:40] <uberspaced> sethk, yeah, but i'm a perfectionist that tries to modify too many things at once
[04:40] <uberspaced> rabautz, compiled it from source
[04:41] <iammisc> But I have windows on the disk I would like to install ubuntu too. the disk is exactly 37.62 gb and currently , the windows partition takes up 16gb of the space. But I want to split the hard disk evenly. How do i get rid of all this windows nonsense?
[04:41] <im247blk> talisein: Wht di I do to create the /dev/lp* files? Should I do MAKEDEV lp?
[04:41] <julian> ati + edgy i need help
[04:41] <iammisc> i do need to keep the files that are on the windows partition
[04:41] <uberspaced> sethk, the only pain in the ass part about this stuff is remembering what run levels do what.
[04:41] <talisein> !lp>talisein
[04:41] <sethk> uberspaced, the ubuntu levels are different than the redhat levels
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <pluto> sethk: Anything special I have to do on the XP side, as far as allowing access?
[04:41] <iammisc> also, there is 7 mb of unused space on the hard disk,is this space used for the back up stuff(like storing backup info)?
[04:41] <sethk> pluto, using what?  samba?
[04:41] <talisein> im247blk: I dunno. Sorry =( Anyone a cups guru?
[04:41] <pluto> sethk: yes
[04:42] <uberspaced> sethk, yeah :), remembering it now, i had a firewall that started itself when the machine booted, and then restarted itself when it shut down.  it left me confused for a little bit.
[04:42] <fivre> If I don't have a "Desktop" menu on my top panel in GNOME after installing ubuntu-desktop, how do I get one?
[04:42] <pudland> hello, booting ubuntu from usb drive issues please help. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27292/
[04:42] <uberspaced> so, it looks like the general procedure is to copy the script to /etc/init.d/
[04:42] <pluto> sethk: what about security, am I creating a situation where I can be hacked?
[04:42] <uberspaced> and use update-rc.d to get it to run for specific run levels.
[04:42] <im247blk> talisein: I'm stumpd... ths my fifth day tryin t get ths to wrk...
[04:42] <sethk> pluto, not really, no.
[04:42] <uberspaced> hmm.  ubuntu run levels.
[04:43] <sethk> pluto, but, you didn't answer my question.  using samba?  or just using sftp/scp?
[04:43] <pluto> sethk: Using samba.
[04:43] <sethk> uberspaced, specifically, run level 1 in ubuntu includes X, whereas in other distros that's typically run level 3.
[04:43] <rarkitty> how can I increase my screen resolution?
[04:44] <uberspaced> sethk, according to wikipedia, ubuntu makes no distinction for 2-5
[04:44] <talisein> im247blk: I'm stumped too. Hard to troubleshoot without a parallel port printer of my own
[04:44] <sethk> uberspaced, depends on which installation options you choose.
[04:44] <rbil> pluto: Places ... Connect to Server ... Service Type: Windows share and the rest you can figure out :-)
[04:44] <uberspaced> sethk, i think i'll install it for 2-5.
[04:44] <sethk> uberspaced, it's best to assume that wikipedia is possibly wrong, especially since they now are saying that they won't let it be updated by anyone.
[04:45] <rarkitty> my screen can only go to 800 x 600 how can I fix that?
[04:45] <sethk> uberspaced, that should be safe.
[04:45] <sethk> rarkitty, run (as root) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:45] <uberspaced> sethk, well then I just might have to do it.
[04:45] <rarkitty> okies
[04:45] <Atomiku> Hmm
[04:45] <Atomiku> I have a general pc question
[04:45] <talisein> im247blk: Try the ubuntu forums
[04:45] <Atomiku> is there a channel for it or shall I ask here?
[04:45] <Atomiku> cant seem to find one >.<
[04:46] <Atomiku> oh well
[04:46] <sethk> Atomiku, you can ask here.  no guarantee that you'll get an answer, of course :)
[04:46] <chuckyp> !ask > Atomiku
[04:46] <pluto> sethk: Thanks again.  You seem really knowledgeable.  Any idea how I can get my ISA Sound Blaster 16 sound card to work, or am I better off just buying a cheap pci card?
[04:46] <uberspaced> hehe, update-rc.d defaults to 2-5 anyhoo.
[04:46] <talisein> just ask
[04:46] <pudland> hello, booting ubuntu from usb drive issues please help. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27292/
[04:46] <rbil> Atomiku: we all run Macs around here, but you can try
[04:46] <chuckyp> rbil, rofl
[04:46] <Atomiku> I have an old computer with a DVD drive, but it doesnt like to boot dvds, only CDs. Is there any way I can boot a DVD?
[04:46] <utopia> installing or booting?
[04:46] <baxter_kylie> Hi. Can anyone tell me where default applications are stored. I had to install Mozilla as part of a meta but now it's my default browser and I'd prefer to set something else as such.
[04:46] <sethk> pluto, PCI cards are so cheap, but usually the ISA card will work with the default port/irq settings.  I'd buy the pci card anyway.
[04:47] <Atomiku> booting
[04:47] <sethk> Atomiku, there may be, if a BIOS update is available for the mother board.
[04:47] <Atomiku> I have got ubuntu on a DVD but it wont boot
[04:47] <Atomiku> i put also put ubuntu on the only CD i had
[04:47] <Atomiku> but
[04:47] <pluto> sethk: Samba is installed, how do I execute it?
[04:48] <Atomiku> one of the files corrupted, so it crashed back to the "Uncompressing linux... ok, booting the kernal" oart
[04:48] <rbil> Atomiku: how did you put it on a CD-R?
[04:48] <Atomiku> nero
[04:48] <im247blk> talisein: tkx!!! I'm out
[04:48] <rbil> did you do a md5sum on the iso before burning
[04:48] <Atomiku> well
[04:48] <Atomiku> no
[04:48] <rbil> well
[04:48] <rbil> do
[04:48] <Atomiku> but as far as I know the ISO was fine
[04:48] <talisein> im247blk: np, sorry I couldn't help. good luck!
[04:48] <rbil> to make sure iso is ok
[04:48] <sethk> pluto, depends on what you want to do.  samba isn't a program, it's a set of programs and libraries.
[04:49] <Atomiku> ive also tried to net install with windows as the server but it doesnt seem to like it
[04:49] <sethk> pluto, as an example, you mount a windows share using the mount command, with -t smbfs
[04:49] <rbil> either a hardware problem or the burn was bad
[04:49] <Atomiku> i would be happy with just doing a net install. When I load tftpd32.exe it says it cant bind to BOOTP address
[04:49] <pluto> sethk: Oh!
[04:50] <sethk> Atomiku, you've set up a BOOTP/DHCP server?
[04:50] <uberspaced> well, shit, default ended up installing it in all rc*.d things.
[04:50] <Atomiku> I tried
[04:50] <uberspaced> removed links by hand, should work fine i guess.
[04:50] <sethk> uberspaced, hmm., well, there is always rm  :)
[04:50] <Atomiku> I tried in hope that I would be able to net install ubuntu instead :(
[04:50] <sethk> Atomiku, yes.  bootp is also dependent on the BIOS
[04:50] <Atomiku> yeah
[04:50] <fivre> I get this error from apt: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/BitTorrent/Choker.py', which is also in package bittorrent-4.2.2.linux
[04:50] <Atomiku> I have a boot disk
[04:50] <fivre> what do I do?
[04:51] <sethk> Atomiku, so see if you can dig up a BIOS Update, it's your best chance of being able to install normally on this box.
[04:51] <Atomiku> "network_boot_floppy+cd+hd_540.zip" I have that
[04:51] <jojoman02> hey if anyone wants an auto-installing package i made for dapper drake 6.06.1 hollar
[04:51] <Atomiku> it boots the floppy fine
[04:51] <Atomiku> says it cant find the IP address though
[04:51] <Atomiku> Anyway, Let me just boot up the computer again and see what it says
[04:51] <sethk> Atomiku, there are so many things that might be causing that.
[04:52] <Atomiku> yeah
[04:52] <Atomiku> the TFTP server isnt actualy working
[04:52] <Atomiku> When I load it up it says "Cannot bind to BOOTP server"
[04:52] <sethk> Atomiku, right, but that can be a server problem, or a client problem.
[04:52] <nrdb> Hi I have just setup a computer with an 'AMD sempron 2800+'  but according to /proc/cpuinfo it is running at 1608.108 MHz, could /proc/cpuinfo report the wrong speed ?
[04:52] <antoni> does anybody know if the next disto of ubuntu will support wpa 1 & 2 natiivly in the network manager?
[04:52] <iammisc> the ubuntu livecd doesnt come with gcc????
[04:52] <sethk> Atomiku, without sniffing packets it's pretty hard to figure out what's failing.
[04:52] <fivre> nrdb: that is the right speed
[04:52] <Atomiku> :(
[04:52] <uberspaced> yay, postgres is working.
[04:52] <fivre> AMD lies in its advertising
[04:52] <sethk> iammisc, doesn't "come with" anything.  you have a list of default packages.
[04:52] <uberspaced> sethk, thanks for the help
[04:53] <sethk> iammisc, depending on which install type you chose, you may or may not get gcc without an additional step.
[04:53] <nrdb> fivre: so is the CPU running at full speed ?
[04:53] <fivre> yes
[04:53] <sethk> iammisc, do    sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:53] <iammisc> sethk: iam talking about running ubuntu from the livecd
[04:53] <nrdb> fivre: I presume it is doing an internal clock double then, correct ?
[04:54] <sethk> iammisc, then yes, it isn't on the set of packages to install.  so you install it, which takes about two minutes.
[04:54] <rabautz> nrdb: cpuinfo shows the current speed. So it may be "clocked down" at the moment .. Mine shows 600 and is a 1700Intel..
[04:54] <fivre> nrdb: No, AMD just labels their processors with that messed-up scheme to better compete with intel
[04:55] <sethk> fivre, as you said before, that's called "lying"  :)
[04:55] <fivre> nrdb: intelp processors perform more cycles per second but less work per cycle
[04:55] <AsheD> how do I view [if any]  active partitions on a drive?
[04:55] <uberspaced> Ash_Fox, fdisk -l
[04:56] <uberspaced> (as root)
[04:56] <AsheD> gotcha :P
[04:56] <SuperMigue1> my apache server is on port 80 and my media server is on port 8888 there is any way to switch it around
[04:56] <antoni> anybody know if edgy (next ver) will support wpa natively in the network manager? if so, when?
[04:56] <sethk> SuperMigue1, it's possible to use different ports with apache, if that's what you are asking.
[04:56] <uberspaced> Ash_Fox, i'm always forgetting what partitions I have, and I never load them into fstab because my comps stay on for like more than 1 month etc
[04:57] <rabautz> SuperMigue1: /etc/apache2/ports.conf thats for apache .. What is a media-server?
[04:57] <rbil> usberspaced: what does staying on have to do with anything in terms of fstab?
[04:57] <slavik> guess who's back. back again. slavik's back, tell a friend.
[04:57] <nrdb> fivre: sh ok! I was wondering if I needed to do something to the BIOS to make the MHz 2800, it doesn't appear so now.
[04:57] <baxter_kylie> anyone have any idea where defaults for applications are stored? (I want to change my default web browser). Thanks. :)
[04:58] <strabes> rbil: he probably mounts them manually when he turns on his comp since it stays on for so long
[04:58] <rbil> oh
[04:58] <rbil> duh
[04:58] <strabes> uberspaced: you probably should just mount them with fstab it would be easier i guess
[04:58] <AsheD> I have a drive, currently unable to do anything to it as it says it is read-only, anybody know why?
[04:58] <strabes> haha yeah lol
[04:58] <strabes> ashed: check the permissions of it?
[04:59] <AsheD> yep, can't change them
[04:59] <uberspaced> AsheD, man mount, look for remount
[04:59] <uberspaced> strabes, yeah, but the amount of time it takes for the computer to boot (in order for me to check if the partition is correctly mounted on boot) offsets that
[05:00] <jojoman02> !flash
[05:00] <SuperMigue1> rabautz like gnump3d
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[05:00] <uberspaced> with using fdisk -l, i figure it will only be a waste of time after about a year or so of doing it.
[05:00] <jojoman02> !flash9
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[05:00] <strabes> uberspaced: there's a command that will re-mount fstab without rebooting let me find it
[05:00] <rabautz> SuperMigue1: /etc/gnump3d/CONFIGFILE - you can change the port there.
[05:00] <uberspaced> nuts.  i'm backed into a corner :)
[05:00] <rbil> uberspaced: still not following you? sudo mount -a will remount everything in fstab
[05:01] <sethk> uberspaced, you can put it in fstab with noauto and it won't mount until you tell it to
[05:01] <uberspaced> rbil, grr.  have you ever booted into something that decided to mount your root file system as read only?
[05:01] <rbil> nope
[05:01] <uberspaced> and you're like "Damn.  I wish i could edit this here file..."
[05:01] <strabes> uberspaced: yeah i guess you have no choice but to make your fstab  :)  this is from ubuntuguide.org: sudo mount -a
[05:01] <strabes> yeah what rbil said
[05:01] <strabes> that will do it for you
[05:02] <uberspaced> yeah, yeah...
[05:02] <pudland> hello, booting ubuntu from usb drive issues please help. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27292/
[05:02] <SuperMigue1> rabautz: yea but when i change it i cant see the pages :S
[05:02] <strabes> glad i could help
[05:02] <strabes> ubuntuguide.org is great for that kinda stuff
[05:04] <rabautz> SuperMigue1: Hmm... You have to restart gnump3d.. - sry don't know if i really understand the problem..
[05:04] <AsheD> still not quite getting it, it won't let me do anything to it
[05:04] <sethk> SuperMigue1, you have to tell the client, also, to use different ports, if you don't want to use standard ports.
[05:04] <AsheD> I can't change permissions, can't repartition the drive, etc
[05:04] <strabes> ashed: format your entire harddrive :)
[05:04] <pluto> sethk: Forgive me, but this is my 1st time networking a computer.  What am I to put in the server field?
[05:04] <sethk> AsheD, are you root (or using sudo)?
[05:05] <AsheD> I tried both
[05:05] <AsheD> same effect
[05:05] <sethk> pluto, for what, for bootp?
[05:05] <sethk> AsheD, well, they had better both do the same thing.
[05:05] <pluto> sethk: yes, to access the XP maching.
[05:05] <rbil> pluto: the ip address of your windoze box
[05:05] <sethk> AsheD, what kind of file system is this?
[05:05] <sethk> pluto, whatever the ip is of your windows box.  you can bring up a cmd window and run the ipconfig command (in windows) to find its IP
[05:05] <pluto> rbil: how do I find that  -- I know it's not on the outside of the box!  :)
[05:05] <AsheD> atm it should be in ext3, but I am not entirely sure
[05:06] <unforgiving> what is the package bfd ?
[05:06] <rbil> cmd prompt in Windows ... ipconfig
[05:06] <sethk> AsheD, if you run the mount command (by itself, no arguments), does it say "ro"   or "rw" for this partition?
[05:06] <AsheD> sethk:: it says rw
[05:06] <uberspaced> OK.  i added the partition to my fstab.  are you happy now :P
[05:06] <pluto> rbil: Doesn't IP stand for internet protocall?
[05:06] <sethk> AsheD, ok, then it isn't a mount issue.
[05:06] <uberspaced> (thanks for the mount -a thing)
[05:06] <sethk> AsheD, it's some sort of permissions issue.
[05:07] <rbil> pluto: yep but that's the command in windows to find out the ip addy assigned to that box
[05:07] <strabes> uberspaced: nice one. no problem
[05:07] <SuperMigue1> any nice tool that i can put on my server :A
[05:07] <pluto> rbil: is that IP address static?
[05:07] <AsheD> sethk:: it shows as being owned by root atm, but I can't chown it, can't fdisk, etc
[05:07] <rbil> pluto: depends how you have setup Windoze. it can be dynamic
[05:07] <rbil> do you obtain it from dhcp or have you set it up as static?
[05:08] <tgelter> hey all - if I can only boot into a busybox console because dmraid fails on me, what can I do?
[05:08] <SuperMigue1> dhcp :P
[05:08] <AsheD> err, 2.0.0beta4, excuse me
[05:08] <pluto> rbil: HOw can I tell if I obtain it from dhcp?
[05:08] <rbil> or u can use the hostname of your windoze box
[05:08] <SuperMigue1> pluto: do ypu have a router in your house?
[05:08] <wabbit> hi all I've just compiled and installed the latest alsa drivers on dapper. But cat /proc/asound/version continues to display the alsa version installed using apt-get. Is there someway I could replace the old alsa driver with the custom compile one?? Is there a howto or documentation in this regard??
[05:08] <pluto> SuperMigue1: Yes.
[05:08] <rbil> pluto: if you don't know you probably do
[05:09] <danilo_> como fasso pra escrever numa partio  fat 32
[05:09] <rbil> pluto: unless someone else setup that windoze box for you
[05:09] <slavik> ok ... I am back
[05:09] <pluto> rbil: No. I set it up out of the box.  so it must be a static IP address, right?
[05:09] <sethk> wabbit, use the --prefix flag on configure
[05:09] <lostatc> I was wondering if I gave someone my IP address and I have Apache2 server installed from synaptic will they be able to be served pages?
[05:10] <sethk> wabbit, start from scratch, because configure is step 1 of building from source.
[05:10] <rbil> pluto, no not static if outta the box ... more than likely using dhcp to obtain ip addy
[05:10] <SuperMigue1> pluto: actually if you go system, administration networking a properties on your wire connection
[05:10] <SuperMigue1> pluto: it will tell you if you have an static or dchp
[05:10] <wabbit> sethk: what should be the value of --prefix
[05:10] <sethk> lostatc, of course, that's what apache does
[05:10] <wabbit> I'm looking myself
[05:10] <SuperMigue1> if it is out of the box it is not static
[05:10] <sethk> wabbit, ordinarily /usr (the default is /usr/local)
[05:10] <danilo_> brasil server
[05:10] <whyso> hi, if i want to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu should i wait until edgy comes out, or should i just rinstall now?
[05:10] <wabbit> ok
[05:10] <rabautz> lostatc: Perhaps, if there is no router between you and the internet and the firewall has an open port for your apache ..
[05:10] <eternalswd> Is it possible to start a new xserver to run on tv-out (ati x300), so I don't have to restart x and close all of the stuff I'm currently working on?
[05:11] <lostatc> well I usually just used as a local <IP_ADDRESS> to look at what i am doing
[05:11] <frecklez> !mp3
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[05:11] <sethk> SuperMigue1, depends on what type of installation you chose and what networking configuration you chose.
[05:11] <danilo_> link irc br  brasil
[05:11] <SuperMigue1> sethk: the default instalation is dhcp
[05:11] <crazypigeon> hello
[05:11] <sethk> lostatc, just tell apache to listen for connections from any machine.
[05:11] <lostatc> okay
[05:11] <sethk> SuperMigue1, it depends on which type of installation you choose and what options you specify
[05:12] <crazypigeon> does anyone here know anything about compiz here?
[05:12] <SuperMigue1> sethk: the default one comes dhcp
[05:12] <eternalswd> or is there a way to restart x while retaining my current programs?
[05:12] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: sudo reboot xD
[05:12] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: ups i didnt read
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> eternalswd:  you mean keeoing your currently running X programs going? No..
[05:13] <pluto> rbil: what do I put in the share field?
[05:13] <Xenguy> eternalswd: this won't retain your programs, but -- Ctrl-Alt-BkSpc
[05:13] <crazypigeon> control + alt + backspace will set you free
[05:13] <crazypigeon> :)
[05:13] <eternalswd> SuperMiguel, If I had been a noob that would have been very cruel :p
[05:13] <sethk> SuperMigue1, there is no default one.  there are several types of installations.  it's true that the most recent version doesn't have all the types on the same cd, but that changes nothing.
[05:13] <rbil> pluto: whatever sharename you assigned to the share in Windoze
[05:13] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: i didnt read im sorry
[05:13] <rbil> pluto: but it shouldn't be necessary
[05:14] <rbil> pluto: just put in a User Name that Windows knows about
[05:14] <crazypigeon> does anyone here know about compiz
[05:14] <pluto> rbil: anything eles that I must enter?
[05:14] <crazypigeon> or an irc channel somewhere
[05:14] <rbil> service type: windows share
[05:14] <SuperMigue1> sethk: but in order to make it static you have to set it up ons the inslation which there is no easy way to get to it
[05:14] <danilo_> alque do brasil
[05:14] <rbil> server: ip addy of windows box
[05:14] <rabautz> crazypigeon: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:14] <rbil> user name: use the name of windows user
[05:14] <crazypigeon> :) thanks
[05:14] <rbil> click connect and see what happens
[05:15] <SuperMigue1> pluto what are you tring to do?
[05:15] <eternalswd> so how about my other option?  is it possible to start a seperate xserver (separate process that would read my current xorg.conf) to run specifically on tv-out?
[05:15] <rbil> should get you an smb icon on desktop that if you doubleclick will open that share
[05:15] <unforgiving> [danilo_] : diga
[05:15] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: yes sir
[05:15] <pluto> SuperMigue1: Just transfer a file between the 2 computers to say I networked a computer  :)
[05:15] <AsheD> eh, I need a compiler to 'make' a program, right?
[05:16] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: you can install a vmware server and install ubuntu again :)
[05:16] <greg__> bye
[05:16] <greg__> bye
[05:16] <kjm> AsheD - you need a text editor to make a program - you need a compiler to compile it.
[05:16] <greg__> exit
[05:16] <bimberi> AsheD: frequently, but not always
[05:16] <Homer> greg___: /quit
[05:16] <Staz> hi, how can I change file associations in ubuntu? (using gnome)
[05:16] <Xenguy> pluto: scp is the usual way (requires ssh)
[05:16] <SuperMigue1> pluto: windows and linux?
[05:16] <AsheD> which one should I get?
[05:16] <eternalswd> SuperMiguel, ugh, guess I'll just wait until I'm done with what I'm doing.
[05:16] <bimberi> !defaultapp
[05:16] <MikeyMike> what is the ubuntu equivalent to updatedb ?
[05:16] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[05:17] <puff> Evening, I upgraded from hoary to breezy to dapper last week, now youtube videos have no sound.  What' sup?
[05:17] <kjm> AsheD - which compiler?  gcc of course.
[05:17] <rabautz> MikeyMike: updatedb
[05:17] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: what are you tring to do?
[05:17] <MikeyMike> rabautz,  haha does that work
[05:17] <bimberi> AsheD: install the build-essential package
[05:17] <Staz> bimberi : thanks mate.
[05:17] <sethk> AsheD, install the gnu compiler suite, which gives you c, c++, java, objective c (which nobody uses any more) and, for the masochistic, ada
[05:17] <crimsun> puff: use aoss to wrap your Web browser
[05:17] <bimberi> Staz: np :)
[05:17] <Homer> !gcc
[05:17] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:17] <kjm> puff : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022
[05:17] <SuperMigue1> !!build
[05:17] <Xenguy> RMS built gcc
[05:18] <AsheD> sethk:: what is that one called?
[05:18] <rabautz> MikeyMike: apt-get install findutils?
[05:18] <Homer> rms made first version
[05:18] <MikeyMike> rabautz,  ah it worked
[05:18] <eternalswd> SuperMiguel, well I've got some downloads running right now, and was hoping I could set up tv-out while waiting and watch a movie.
[05:18] <Homer> now gcc is developed by dozens of devs
[05:18] <bsdfox> hi, anyone know if v4l2 supports audio capture on a bt878 card?
[05:18] <sethk> AsheD, I'm not sure of the package name, I'll check.
[05:18] <Xenguy> Homer: of course, the point is that RMS started up the whole shit
[05:18] <Homer> yeah he did
[05:19] <def6> Can anyone help me get dist-upgrade to work again after having lost my sys clock?.. Using the update manager, it tells me it can't install ubuntu-desktop(which isn't installed for some reason).
[05:19] <uberspaced> sethk, tell AsheD how to check :)
[05:19] <slavik> I read the micro kernel vs. monolithic kernel debate the other day ...
[05:19] <Homer> gnu hurd is micro kernal
[05:19] <xuser> Where does mplayer reads the codecs in ubuntu?
[05:19] <Xenguy> def6: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  ?
[05:19] <White_Castle> hi, can someone tell me how to view my computer specs with ubuntu?
[05:20] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: with VMware you can install another operating system like linux windows, over your actuall installation, it just will require like 4GB of your hard drive it will make a folder for it, it is prety good :)
[05:20] <def6> will check, xenguy.. but it fails, though not the same way.
[05:20] <Xenguy> def6: try repeating
[05:20] <eternalswd> SuperMiguel, is it in the repository?
[05:20] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: the player is
[05:21] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: with the server you can make your own configurations, but with vmware player you can install an os
[05:21] <eternalswd> SuperMiguel, ok, I'll give it a try
[05:21] <pluto> rbil: what is a residentail gateway?
[05:22] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: what is your RAM memory?
[05:22] <rbil> pluto, your router
[05:22] <sethk> pluto, a low capacity router.
[05:22] <eternalswd> SuperMiguel, 1GB
[05:22] <White_Castle> can someone tell me how to view my ram with ubuntu?
[05:22] <sethk> pluto, I'm building a broadband wireless RG at the moment at work.
[05:22] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: it will run fast :)
[05:22] <pluto> rbil: That's what I thougt, but was not sure.
[05:22] <sethk> White_Castle, top, and/or  cat /proc/meminfo
[05:22] <uberspaced> White_Castle, cat /proc/meminfo
[05:22] <def6> xenguy: so far so good, oddly enough.. i've tried this before, but it seems to be replacing packages..
[05:22] <def6> alright.
[05:22] <White_Castle> thanks :)
[05:22] <def6> it finished.
[05:22] <uberspaced> free -m also
[05:22] <kjm> WhiteCastle : You can use the system monitor.....
[05:22] <pluto> sethk: what is a rg?
[05:22] <Xenguy> def6: yay
[05:23] <def6> hopefully yay
[05:23] <def6> :D
[05:23] <sethk> pluto, residential gateway, what you just asked about
[05:23] <SuperMigue1> Right guy xD
[05:23] <def6> for god's sake, i swear i did that 235432 times
[05:23] <puff> Hm, still no sound.
[05:23] <pluto> sethk: cool.
[05:23] <jek> anybody know what the difference is between ro quiet splash and ro single in the grub menu?
[05:23] <puff> I installed alsa-oss and edited /etc/firefox/firefoxrc to add FIREFOX_DSP="aoss", but no sound in my youtube.
[05:23] <Xenguy> def6: I've found the need to repeat on many occasions that's all :-)
[05:24] <SuperMigue1> any free graphical web page maker like dreamweaver?
[05:24] <kjm> Puff - did you look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022  ?
[05:24] <AsheD> "checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool" :(
[05:24] <def6> xenguy: interesting.
[05:24] <rbil> puff, isn't youtube flash?
[05:24] <def6> glad it worked this time.. thanks bud.
[05:24] <uberspaced> SuperMigue1, mozilla has an html editor that is better than using FrontPage
[05:24] <kjm> SuperMiguel = have you checked out NVU?
[05:24] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: nvu  ?
[05:24] <Homer> !nvu
[05:24] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[05:24] <puff> rbil: AFAIK, yes.
[05:25] <puff> kjm: Yes.
[05:25] <menko> Hi, there are a few env. variables which I don't want apps I run with sudo to carry, how can I do this? I tried adding env_reset to the defaults line in sudoers, but that doesn't seem to do it. (I tried sudo echo $XMODIFIERS and the content still came up)
[05:25] <pluto> rbil: If I want this to work, I must turn on file & print sharing in XP, right?
[05:25] <rbil> puff, got flash installed
[05:25] <rbil> pluto, yes
[05:25] <kjm> Did you hear flash 7 beta is out?  (couldn't resist with the set topic....)
[05:25] <rbil> pluto, then create a share in windoze
[05:25] <puff> rbil: Was that a question? If so, yes.
[05:25] <slavik> kjm: flash 9 is what you mean ;)
[05:26] <def6> xenguy: thanks so much.  i've been beating my head into the wall for the past few days over this.
[05:26] <jek> anybody knwo what the difference between /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash and /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash
[05:26] <Homer> !flash9b
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash9b - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <Homer> not in repo yet?
[05:26] <Xenguy> def6: heh, great, yw
[05:26] <SuperMigue1> nvu use html?
[05:26] <SuperMigue1> do you actually need to write html?
[05:26] <Homer> it generate html
[05:26] <kjm> oops : yes - flash 9...    It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[05:28] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: x11vnc  ?
[05:28] <rbil> I can't look at this type anymore. bye people.
[05:28] <Homer> bye
[05:28] <puff> Ah, it was /tmp/.esd/socket that was the problem.
[05:28] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: also check out freenx
[05:28] <Homer> !freenx
[05:28] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[05:29] <SuperMigue1> a mean i want to use vnc over my server but im far, i just have an putty client
[05:29] <menko> Hi, how do I stop sudo from inheriting environment variables?
[05:29] <SuperMigue1> can i install and use it from here?
[05:29] <Homer> menko: sudo bash
[05:29] <Homer> SuperMigue1: sudo apt-get install freenx
[05:29] <menko> Homer: I want every app which I run with sudo/gksudo to not inherit certain env variables (I don't want multiple scim instances)
[05:30] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: if you have putty, use a command-line; if you want GUI, use Freenx
[05:30] <Homer> hmm not sure then
[05:30] <crimsun> puff: what specifically with /tmp/.esd/socket ?
[05:30] <SuperMigue1> how do i use freenx from windows
[05:30] <SuperMigue1> how cna i connect to that server?
[05:31] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: download the wind0ze freenx client
[05:32] <SuperMigue1> there is no freenx
[05:32] <SuperMigue1>  sudo apt-get install freenx
[05:32] <SuperMigue1> couldn't find it
[05:32] <def6> While I'm here, should I even be bothering with Firestarter, or should I roll my own firewall?  I notice that many of the rules I set in firestarter still seem to bring up warnings.  eg; suaerbraten and port 28786...  For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[05:32] <lampshade> totally worked for me
[05:32] <lampshade> perfectly
[05:32] <lampshade> no sound lag
[05:32] <lampshade> bam
[05:32] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: see that URL
[05:33] <lampshade> and firefox doesn't crash on me randomly when I close tabs with flash stuff playing now
[05:33] <lampshade> I'm excited
[05:33] <tritium> !enter > lampshade
[05:33] <def6> flash 9 beta has been working flawlessly for me..
[05:34] <Healot> Honey Flash
[05:34] <Healot> now I can view my telco site properly
[05:35] <SuperMigue1> where is the source list?
[05:35] <pluto> SuperMigue1: Does turning on file & print share in XP put me at risk?
[05:35] <SuperMigue1> ../etc/var/source.lits
[05:35] <SuperMigue1> pluto: no :)
[05:36] <SuperMigue1> unless you are super rich
[05:36] <def6> god forbid some hacker printed money remotely on your printer
[05:36] <pluto> SuperMigue1: WEll I guess I don't have to worry then!   :)
[05:36] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: deb http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ dapper-seveas freenx
[05:36] <pluto> def6: I'll leave it on and see what happens!!  :)
[05:36] <mulder_> are we at 6.10 ?
[05:36] <hutchGuy> def6: s/hacker/cracker please!
[05:36] <def6> lmao, pluto
[05:36] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: when I last checked anyhow
[05:37] <SuperMigue1> um?
[05:37] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: deb http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ dapper-seveas freenx
[05:38] <bimberi> mulder_: no, soon, Oct 26 is the target date
[05:38] <def6> is anyone actually testing the new flash player?
[05:38] <SuperMigue1> ok it is installed
[05:38] <mulder_> bimberi, alright. thanks.
[05:38] <SuperMigue1> how can i configure my server?
[05:38] <def6> i mean, being a part of the community, shouldn't we be trying to break it?
[05:38] <technel> I am trying to convert from a very old "wv" file to mp3. I am using pacpl, but it returns this: "There was an error loading: MP4::Info. Install the module or set USETAGS to 0 in conf file." Any idea what MP4::Info is?
[05:38] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: you probably want to read some documentation :p
[05:39] <SuperMigue1> im blind :P
[05:39] <axel> omg ubuntu is alive....
[05:39] <def6> what did supermigue1 say?
[05:39] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: pity ;-)
[05:39] <def6> i can't read my braille screen
[05:39] <def6> when will ubuntu support braille?
[05:40] <axel> lol
[05:40] <def6> bastards
[05:40] <Atomiku> lol
[05:40] <SuperMigue1> pity
[05:40] <SuperMigue1> ?
[05:40] <slavik> how do I switch the default audio card?
[05:40] <tritium> def6: calm down
[05:40] <def6> sorry, my braille screen works quite well, i was merely being silly..
[05:40] <def6> which i think should be allowed
[05:41] <bimberi> def6: it was hard to tell :)
[05:41] <def6> lmao
[05:41] <axel> dam ECS dnot support video in linux
[05:42] <SuperMigue1> does xubuntu uses xdm?
[05:42] <axel> anyone knows a sis761gx driver?
[05:42] <h36sa_> hi, I can watch TV on my computer but I am having trouble recording it and want to record something in 20 minutes :P http://pastebin.ca/209347
[05:42] <Healot> SuperMigue1: yes xdm
[05:43] <axel> many people here
[05:44] <bimberi> SuperMigue1: the xubuntu-desktop package has gdm as a dependency
[05:44] <Mad3Max1> ok.. I have a question about packages.. I want to install lcdproc. but in synapse it's an old version of it. 0.4.5 and the current is 0.5.1.. when I look here it exists.. how do I get synapse to get it.. http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/utils/lcdproc
[05:44] <AsheD> is 'making' a program supposed to display all the code in the terminal?
[05:44] <bimberi> SuperMigue1: but you can install and use xdm if you wish
[05:44] <Xenguy> Mad3Max1: try apt-get instead   ?
[05:45] <Xenguy> Mad3Max1: er, sudo yada yada
[05:45] <bimberi> Mad3Max1: upgrade to edgy, which is currently in beta, but will be released soon
[05:45] <SuperMigue1> when i try to login to my nx server its says session startup failed :S
[05:45] <Mad3Max1> Xenguy.. apt-get only has the old version aswell.. maybe my sources that are wrong
[05:45] <axel> sudo give me a coffe....
[05:45] <Xenguy> Mad3Max1: dunno then
[05:46] <Xenguy> bimberi: bad advice to 'upgrade' to unstable
[05:46] <axel> this isnt work
[05:46] <bimberi> Xenguy: yes, bad wording
[05:46] <DaveyJ> whenever i open up my home folder it says "stalled" on the bottom and looks like its continually loading, then eventually stops and its blank
[05:46] <DaveyJ> kubuntu btw
[05:46] <Xenguy> axel: what do you want to do?
[05:46] <bthornton> I just bought a new 2GB USB flash drive; is it possible to burn my Ubuntu ISO to it and boot off of it as a LiveCD?
[05:46] <bimberi> Xenguy: but qualified in the answer
[05:46] <axel> find a sis761gx driver
[05:47] <Xenguy> bimberi: I just blew it a kiss :-)
[05:47] <bimberi> lol
[05:47] <axel> only guindows drivers i found
[05:47] <Xenguy> axel: ahh
[05:48] <axel> no gl in ubuntu
[05:48] <axel> in this comp i have compiz and xgl but in other i have the sis drivers problem
[05:49] <ph4t_ph4nt0m> heya.  it seems i'm having a bit of trouble keeping connected to Freenode
[05:50] <utopia> try a different server
[05:50] <utopia> http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
[05:51] <SuperMigue1>  when i try to login to my nx server its says session startup failed :S
[05:52] <axel> is so sad ... i not remember how to develop a driver, the last time i develop was in a commodore 64
[05:52] <eternalswd> I'm trying to get vmware player working.  When I install it fails to start vmnet when installing
[05:53] <SuperMigue1> any nx client for windows?
[05:53] <utopia> yep google
[05:54] <bitviper> can anyone tell me how to install xvid in edgy?
[05:54] <Borat> sudo apt-get install xvid
[05:54] <Borat> jk
[05:54] <axel> lol
[05:54] <Borat> i wish things where that easy
[05:54] <tritium> Borat: they often are
[05:54] <bitviper> do I have to compile it?
[05:54] <utopia> here is the freenx client: http://www.nomachine.com/download.php
[05:54] <Borat> tritium; yea really
[05:55] <tritium> Borat: honestly
[05:55] <SuperMigue1> utopia that does not work with my server :S
[05:56] <marcrosoft> anyone know why dbus/hal does not initialize on boot but will load when running /etc/init.d/dbus
[05:56] <Healot> bitviper: you need the libxine-extracodecs package; hint enable your multiverse section; dapper repos
[05:56] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, did you upgrade your kernel
[05:56] <Healot> edgy :)
[05:56] <bitviper> thanks Healot, I'll try that out
[05:57] <Healot> repos: edgy>>
[05:57] <bitviper> I do have multiverse open.  Should I really enable dapper repos in edgy?  Wont that mess it up?
[05:57] <tritium> bitviper: edgy questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[05:58] <bitviper> woops
[05:58] <bitviper> k
[05:58] <eternalswd> marcrosoft, no do I need to?
[05:58] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, no.... but thats why vmnet failed for me
[05:59] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, do you have the kernel that it says it uses in synaptic?
[05:59] <nrdb> is there a simple program I could use to test a HDD ?
[05:59] <tical0420> i need help with wireless
[05:59] <SuperMigue1> any nx client?
[06:00] <utopia> here is the freenx client: http://www.nomachine.com/download.php
[06:00] <_azrael> For some reason, only OSS works on my system. What should I check to figure out why ALSA's not working.
[06:00] <Borat> nrdb, cfdisk>
[06:00] <Borat> ?
[06:00] <tical0420> my wireless lan works fine with .26 kernal but not with .27
[06:00] <tritium> !sound
[06:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:01] <crimsun> _azrael: more detail would be nice.
[06:02] <eternalswd> marcrosoft, yes, as far as I can tell.  2.6.15-26.47 is my kernel version and <IP_ADDRESS>-10 is the vmware module version
[06:02] <GatoLoko> hi
[06:02] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, thats your problem
[06:02] <_azrael> crimsun: After installing the new flash 9, I noticed no sound. I heard that only alsa was supported, so I decided to double check my alsa was working by doing mplayer -ao alsa foo.mp3, which hangs. From this I'm concluding that alsa for some reason isn't working, and that I've been using OSS only for a while without noticing.
[06:02] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, they have to match exactly... or it doesn't work
[06:02] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, i had to build my module by hand
[06:03] <eternalswd> marcrosoft, any tips on how to do that?
[06:03] <crimsun> _azrael: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[06:03] <hockyhair> hello, what is the easiest way to burn a .dmg image in ubuntu
[06:03] <_azrael> azrael@mobileDemon ~ $ lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*rnCOMMAND     PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAMErnfirefox-b 29829 azrael  mem    CHR 116,22      9444 /dev/snd/pcmC0D6prnfirefox-b 29829 azrael   48u   CHR 116,22      9444 /dev/snd/pcmC0D6p
[06:04] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, just download the source and build the moudles using make...
[06:04] <hockyhair> !dmg
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <marcrosoft> then copy them to....
[06:05] <crimsun> _azrael: ls /tmp/alsa*dmix*
[06:05] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, i cant remember where modules go..  if you want me to look i can
[06:05] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, then you need to do a depmod -a or something like that to load the modules
[06:06] <enyawix> question
[06:06] <enyawix> ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-amd64.iso
[06:06] <enyawix> md5sun
[06:06] <enyawix> ?
[06:06] <_azrael> crimsun: azrael@mobileDemon ~ $ ls /tmp/alsa*dmix*rnls: /tmp/alsa*dmix*: No such file or directoryrnazrael@mobileDemon ~ $
[06:07] <Madpilot> enyawix, the md5sum file will be in the same place you got the ISO itself from
[06:07] <crimsun> _azrael: are you watching/listening to a flash applet atm?
[06:07] <Staz> hi, which ubuntu repository contains the absolute lates mplayer? I'm after pre8
[06:07] <enyawix> the server had no sum :(
[06:08] <enyawix> i get d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e
[06:08] <Staz> latest*
[06:08] <SuperMigue1> Xfce = kde?
[06:08] <_azrael> crimsun: yes.
[06:08] <enyawix> yes?
[06:08] <enyawix> what
[06:09] <enyawix> yes i have good file?
[06:09] <crimsun> _azrael: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[06:09] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, hope that helps
[06:09] <Borat> xfce=kde are you on crack?
[06:09] <SuperMigue1> :P
[06:09] <SuperMigue1> whe you use nx
[06:09] <eternalswd> marcrosoft, thanks, I'll figure it out
[06:09] <_azrael> Crimsun: Mixers:rn0: SigmaTel STAC9200
[06:10] <_azrael> crimsun: (that's my modem it's identifying)
[06:10] <crimsun> _azrael: known issue with that mixer. I've already sent the appropriate patches to our kernel lead, and hopefully they'll be available in a new kernel soon.
[06:10] <SuperMigue1> when you use nx it just says, gnome,kde,cde, xdm and custum
[06:10] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, it took me a long time to figure it out.. and nobody here seem to help that much.. so i thought i would pass the info... :)
[06:10] <SuperMigue1> which one should i pick f i use Xfce
[06:10] <crimsun> _azrael: in the meantime, pastebin ``amixer''
[06:11] <wrabbit^> SuperMigue1: if you want xfce, you'll need to apt-get install xfce4
[06:11] <eternalswd> marcrosoft, do you know where I might download the module sources?
[06:11] <enyawix> k i have bad down load :(
[06:11] <SuperMigue1> ^^ :S
[06:11] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: choose the most different option from the default ;-)
[06:12] <SuperMigue1> i have it already but i want to remote in to it, but my options are just gnome,kde,cde, xdm and custom
[06:12] <levander> #ubuntu was created in 2001?  that's like 3 years before it became a distribution
[06:12] <_azrael> crimsun: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~azrael/amixerout
[06:12] <levander> Anyone has seen a good article on how to change out your video card?  I know the hardware part, don't know about the software under Ubuntu.
[06:13] <Xenguy> levander: ubu should just pick it up
[06:13] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, only place is their website
[06:13] <mabreaux> does any one know how to import eudora files into evolution?
[06:13] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, download the tar.gz
[06:14] <levander> Xenguy: but I'll need a different X server, currently I'm running a Matrox G400, I need to switch X servers to a nVidia 6200
[06:14] <crimsun> _azrael: does increasing your 'PCM' level help?
[06:14] <eternalswd> marcrosoft, okay, thanks
[06:14] <Xenguy> levander: oh my
[06:14] <talisein> levander: Install the new card, turn on. X will probably fail and give you a console login. Login, and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:14] <levander> Xenguy: that's sarcasm?
[06:14] <Xenguy> levander: I had no idea
[06:14] <talisein> levander: it should be able to detect the new card
[06:14] <levander> f* you Xenguy!!!!
[06:14] <levander> talisein: thanks
[06:15] <Xenguy> levander: no, although I understand your question :-)
[06:15] <ringard> what does ubuntu do with multi cpu systems? would it spread cpu usage across the cpus?
[06:15] <Lam_> !schedule > me
[06:15] <talisein> ringard: yes
[06:16] <Lam_> !schedule > Lam_
[06:16] <levander> ringard: the OS will assign one application to one processor, then the next application to the next processor
[06:16] <ringard> talisein: do i have to configure something to make that happen?
[06:16] <enyawix> dl is too BIG
[06:16] <talisein> ringard: no, modern kernels detect that sort of environment and act accordingly
[06:16] <ringard> levander: same question ^^^
[06:16] <levander> ringard: it won't speed up single application performance, unless the application is written with "threads", which most desktop applications aren't
[06:16] <enyawix> why not a basic install that dselect the rest
[06:16] <ringard> this is for a server
[06:17] <levander> talisein: I'm pretty sure he has to install an SMP kernel package
[06:17] <ringard> talisein: that is wonderful news
[06:17] <levander> talisein: i know i did
[06:17] <siXy> all applications "are written with threads". some applications support smp.
[06:17] <talisein> levander: whatever kernel Dapper is on doesn't need to be reinstalled
[06:17] <levander> talisein: cool, didn't know that
[06:17] <_azrael> crimsun: Does not help.
[06:18] <_azrael> crimsun: This is not quiet sound, this is no sound. Additionally, mplayer in the past has been very valid at detecting whether sound systems are present and working.
[06:18] <levander> siXy: well, all applications aren't multi-threaded, which is what they need to take advantage of SMP
[06:18] <talisein> levander: kernel devs realized it was annoying for distros to have to ship 2 different versions, so they made it reconfigure itself at boot time
[06:18] <ringard> just to clearify, i don't need a smp package for dapper?
[06:18] <_azrael> crimsun: (mplayer -ao alsa hung if you missed me saying that)
[06:18] <siXy> if you are using multiple cpus (logical or physical) you should already be using an smp kernel. type uname -r to find out
[06:18] <marik> Hiya ubuntu channel people. I need a little bit of advice on what iso to use for my intel mac
[06:18] <levander> siXy: although you could argue all applications have a single thread
[06:18] <levander> talisein: that is nice that they did that
[06:18] <talisein> ringard: correct. There is still a -smp package, but its just a dummy package that points at the normal one
[06:19] <siXy> levander: not if you know anythin about software development you couldnt.
[06:19] <crimsun> _azrael: it's not a matter of it hanging. Like I said, I know about the issue. I've patched it. The fixes are ready but haven't been released in a Ubuntu kernel yet.
[06:19] <pluto> what does ping do?
[06:19] <ringard> ty very much for the info everyone!!
[06:19] <Borat> pluto, ping is your latency time
[06:19] <enyawix> tried debian etch
[06:19] <levander> siXy: all applications do have at least a  single thread
[06:19] <talisein> pluto: sends a small packet across the network to a destination, which might be configured to respond to pings. If it does, it can let you know what the network latency is
[06:19] <enyawix> it is painfull
[06:19] <_azrael> crimsun: Is the patch available somewhere so I could apply it to kernel source and recompile myself?
[06:20] <crimsun> _azrael: depends if you want the easy way or the hard way. Do you use your own kernel?
[06:20] <siXy> they all make use of at least a single thread. correct. they dont not have just one thread. nor do only some applications use threads.
[06:20] <_azrael> crimsun: At the moment, no. However, I migrated to ubuntu from gentoo, so I have a good deal of experience compiling kernels :P
[06:20] <marik> Am I going to get any help on what iso image to use for my intel mac, sorry to interupt
[06:21] <pluto> talisein: if I transfer a file from my ubuntu to XP with samba, does it transfer the file outside of the house?
[06:21] <talisein> marik: if its an intel mac, use the x86 image
[06:21] <enyawix> intel mac?
[06:21] <crimsun> _azrael: then just grab alsa-kernel hg or jaroslav's git tree, and compile one.
[06:21] <def6> marik: what do you mean?
[06:21] <siXy> marik: patience is a virtue.
[06:21] <enyawix> what arch is that?
[06:21] <_azrael> OK
[06:21] <def6> marik: are you burning an installation disc?
[06:21] <marik> I'm using a intel dual core iMac and I want to intall ubuntu
[06:21] <marik> I plan on burning my own disc
[06:21] <def6> and?
[06:21] <talisein> pluto: are you on a wired or wireless connection?
[06:21] <h36sa_> anyone had luck with tv-in using a bt848/878 and v4l2?
[06:21] <marik> I'd like to know what image to use before I waste a disc on burning.
[06:22] <def6> the iso file you have should set the options itself.
[06:22] <def6> i mean, you do have an iso, no?
[06:22] <talisein> def6: there are x86 isos and PPC isos.
[06:22] <def6> i realize that
[06:22] <bimberi> marik: i386 iso
[06:22] <marik> Yes, I am getting the x86 iso, which I believe is the one I will be needing
[06:22] <pluto> talisein: I'm on a wired connection.
[06:23] <marik> Thank you muchly, hope to help in the future once I learn more
[06:24] <talisein> pluto: okay. Are both computers behind a router/firewall? If so, then the samba server's files are probably only accessable from within your wired network. That sort of depends on how good your firewall is though ;)
[06:24] <scott> on a ubuntu server we're having troubles with the clock going wrong. It seems like even a few hours after I set it  with ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com it is off again. It's a long ways away so I can't really check the hardware..any ideas?
[06:25] <talisein> scott: there is a file in /etc where ntp trys to automatically correct for a fast clock.. hold on :)
[06:25] <pluto> talisein: Thansk.
[06:26] <def6> that's a fine thanks
[06:26] <talisein> scott: its adjtime. I believe you can just delete the file and it will reset the whole Toofast thing
[06:27] <Staz> How can I remove google earth? (I installed it from a .deb)
[06:27] <scott> I think the clock is slow actually
[06:27] <Xenguy> scott: set a cron job
[06:27] <White_Castle> erm
[06:27] <def6> can i completely remove icons from the gnome menu?  i mean, i don't look for icons when i'm shooting for a prog..
[06:27] <def6> and that would surely make my menus quicker
[06:27] <talisein> scott: whichever it is, its correcting too much or too little. I'm googling on adjtime to make sure :)
[06:27] <White_Castle> ok, I just installed ubuntu a few hrs ago, but I didn't set any root password on installation
[06:28] <Xenguy> def6: you can do that in xfce ;-)
[06:28] <White_Castle> does it come with some sort of default?
[06:28] <def6> ugh, i know..
[06:28] <Xenguy> !root > White_Castle
[06:28] <monster^> ummm whats the gnome disk management program called?
[06:28] <def6> xenguy, you use xfce ?
[06:28] <Xenguy> def6: sometimes, yes
[06:28] <Xenguy> def6: depends on the hardware
[06:28] <White_Castle> White_Castle being my username?
[06:28] <def6> isee
[06:29] <Tyler-in-vic> what is my /ect/fstab? and how do I know if i have entries in it?
[06:29] <Xenguy> Tyler-in-vic: less /etc/fstab
[06:30] <Tyler-in-vic> less of what?
[06:30] <wastrel> less is a program to view the contents of a file
[06:30] <Xenguy> Tyler-in-vic: type: less /etc/fstab
[06:30] <utopia> :D
[06:30] <Xenguy> Tyler-in-vic: less is more BTW
[06:30] <def6> lol
[06:30] <Tyler-in-vic> ok
[06:30] <wastrel> it's a command line program, use it in the terminal
[06:30] <LedStyle> OMG!  It confirms to just delete /etc/adjtime and let it start over
[06:31] <def6> it'll use itself after 30 boots
[06:31] <def6> broke my wrist rest again.. *goes to get tape*
[06:31] <Tyler-in-vic> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ less /ect/fstab
[06:31] <Tyler-in-vic> /ect/fstab: No such file or directory
[06:31] <antoni> anybody know if edgy (next ver) will support wpa natively in the network manager? if so, when?
[06:31] <Xenguy> Tyler-in-vic: etc
[06:31] <Splittor> it's /etc
[06:31] <Tyler-in-vic> is less not installed on the live cd?
[06:31] <Tyler-in-vic> oops
[06:32] <Tyler-in-vic> how do i quit less?
[06:32] <def6> has anyone ever tried an eclipse keyboard?
[06:32] <Xenguy> q
[06:32] <LedStyle> Tyler-in-vic, "q"
[06:32] <Madpilot> White_Castle, Ubuntu is set up to use your own user pw & sudo - have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:32] <talisein> Tyler-in-vic: q
[06:32] <def6> i'm gonna go with something that's self illuminating
[06:32] <def6> yea, xmas is coming and i have no clue
[06:33] <Tyler-in-vic> thanks folks
[06:33] <timalot> if i have an laptop with a CRT plugged into into vga port can... can i have a different refresh rate for the CRT ? how?
[06:33] <White_Castle> ok thanks
[06:33] <talisein> timalot: refresh rate? Or resolution?
[06:33] <timalot> talisein: refresh rate
[06:34] <talisein> timalot: what video chip?
[06:34] <timalot> talisein: its 60hz for the laptop lcd which is too low for a crt ... ie it hurts to look at... its using the savage Xorg driver
[06:34] <def6> wait, are you wanting to have a profile for the crt and the lappy seperate?
[06:35] <talisein> timalot: is the CRT a clone of the lcd, or a different screen?
[06:35] <harisund> is there any way I can tell Ubuntu that my /home will be nfs mounted? Or only after installation can I edit the fstab file to reflect the same?
[06:35] <timalot> clone of crt ....
[06:35] <timalot> cone of lcd on crt i mean
[06:35] <talisein> timalot: hmm, ok. we'll have to look at the savage documentation then
[06:36] <timalot> ok
[06:36] <def6> lol
[06:36] <White_Castle> Home come when I use su I get authentication failed?
[06:36] <harisund> White_Castle, what password are you using?
[06:36] <Xenguy> White_Castle: sudo -i   ?
[06:36] <def6> your pass isn't correct.
[06:36] <def6> :S
[06:37] <harisund> White_Castle, yeah you can't use su on ubuntu, atleast not by default
[06:37] <White_Castle> Oh ok, thanks.
[06:37] <peeps> does anyone know an easy way to find all the computer IPs on my network?
[06:37] <harisund> peeps, looking at your ip address and netmask? Or do you wnt to ping each one and find which ones are up?
[06:37] <def6> http://dmiessler.com/study/nix/commands/find/
[06:38] <omnius> Hello
[06:38] <Tyler-in-vic> check your dhcp servers client list
[06:38] <peeps> i want to ping them.  i'm actually trying to find out the ip of this network printer I just plugged in
[06:38] <macd> there is no lcd display on it?
[06:38] <timalot> talisein: i think its possible but it would mean restarting X.... probably best just to buy a standalone lcd monitor
[06:38] <omnius> how would i go about bridging 2 nic's?
[06:38] <peeps> hehe, no it's cheap
[06:39] <siXy> omnius: iptables
[06:39] <macd> omnius, its covered thoroughly in the iptables docs.
[06:39] <omnius> ok thanks guys
[06:40] <talisein> timalot: I'm not so sure. I'm still trying to find a comprehsive doc.
[06:41] <Healot> for iptables i guess you'd better off with a book
[06:42] <talisein> timalot: http://www.botchco.com/alex/new-savage/savage/working/XF86Config-mergedfb
[06:42] <talisein> timalot: Look at the values for CRT2VSync and VRefresh. copy that & try.
[06:42] <def6> does anyone here play games?
[06:42] <bur[n] er> sometimes
[06:43] <def6> which?
[06:43] <talisein> def6: Yes. On my Gamecube.
[06:43] <Newtoyou> Hi, I'm a linux newbie. Trying to install ubuntu but I get an X-Server error on the install disc
[06:43] <timalot> talisein: thanks alot ... i guess i need to do some xorg.conf magic...
[06:43] <def6> my gamepube has been collecting dust for 3 years
[06:43] <timalot> ill try it
[06:43] <def6> any fps fans?
[06:44] <def6> i
[06:44] <talisein> def6: This might be better conversation for #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:44] <def6> oh.
[06:44] <def6> i appologize
[06:44] <talisein> np ^^
[06:44] <Newtoyou> So... um... installing Ubuntu?
[06:45] <talisein> Oh, right.
[06:45] <talisein> Xserver error on the livecd?
[06:45] <peeps> argh my printer has no IP address yet.
[06:45] <Newtoyou> Burned disc, popped in, launches linux kernal but fails to load Xserver?
[06:45] <talisein> Newtoyou: what sort of video card do you have?
[06:45] <Newtoyou> X300
[06:45] <Newtoyou> Its just a standard Dell Pentium D
[06:45] <talisein> Newtoyou: Hmm. Are you sure the cd burned right?
[06:46] <Newtoyou> Well pretty sure, just burned it on my Mac, never had troubles with ISOs before
[06:46] <Newtoyou> I think I may have downloaded 6.10, could that be to blame?
[06:46] <talisein> could be. do you remember what error it gave you?
[06:47] <Newtoyou> I'll launch it again
[06:47] <Newtoyou> One sec
[06:47] <talisein> ok
[06:47] <talisein> it will probably say: Xserver failed to start! View the log? <Yes> <cancel>, hit yes and scroll to the bottom to see what it died on
[06:48] <Newtoyou> ALrighty
[06:48] <Newtoyou> its booting
[06:49] <Newtoyou> FOr safe measure I'm downloading the 6.06 CD as I'm trying all this out
[06:49] <talisein> cool
[06:50] <talisein> for future reference, 6.10 technical problems should be on #ubuntu+1, but since no one else talking here I'll help you through this one :)
[06:51] <Newtoyou> thanks
[06:51] <Newtoyou> Okay, what's relevant on the screen?
[06:52] <Newtoyou> in the error msg
[06:52] <Newtoyou> that is
[06:52] <krab> how do I make a combination of keys bring up a program?
[06:52] <talisein> lines that start with (EE)
[06:52] <talisein> krab: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[06:54] <talisein> Newtoyou: Whatever the problem is is probably at the end of the log file
[06:57] <wastrel> krab:  system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[06:58] <Newtoyou> back, computer on other end of the house and had to let the dog out. Anyhow, EE no Devices Detected
[06:58] <Newtoyou> Fatal SErver error
[06:58] <Newtoyou> No screens found
[06:59] <ArrenLex> Newtoyou: are you sure you're using the correct driver?
[06:59] <talisein> Newtoyou: Hmm. Can you get to a command prompt?
[06:59] <Newtoyou> I have no idea, I'm a linux newbie in the highest order
[06:59] <Newtoyou> yea
[06:59] <Newtoyou> It dumps me in the command prompt
[07:00] <talisein> Newtoyou: Does it say how to log in? Since its the livecd, I don't know what hte user name owuld be
[07:01] <Newtoyou> where would that be?
[07:01] <talisein> oh, it probably gives you a shell. nm.
[07:01] <Newtoyou> yeah
[07:01] <talisein> look at lspci and see if you spot the name of your videocard
[07:02] <Newtoyou> lspci -v right?
[07:02] <rm_you> I'm about an hour away from having all my hardware ready to set up a RAID5 array over 5 identical disks. I've been doing research all day and I haven't been able to decide between mdadm and evms. Any thoughts?
[07:03] <talisein> Newtoyou: that'll work too. I'm not really interested in much of the details, but I'd like to know if ubuntu recognizes the device for what it is
[07:03] <talisein> rm_you: Well, you can use mdadm after evms  to check up on /dev/md0.
[07:05] <rm_you> hrm...
[07:05] <Tyler-in-vic> is it possible to see what speed files transfer between drives?
[07:05] <talisein> rm_you: evmsgui makes a lot of things easier, sort of ;) But if you know how to use mdadm, you don't have to deal with another layer of abstraction
[07:05] <rm_you> talisein: they stack?  >_>
[07:05] <rm_you> lol yeah... complexity is what i'm trying to get AWAY from
[07:06] <talisein> rm_you: underneath the code, both of them tell the kernel the same thing, insofar as defining the RAID. So if you make it with mdadm, EVMS will see it.
[07:07] <talisein> rm_you: For my first raid, I used EVMS. GUIs are always easiest
[07:07] <omnius> I have installed bridge-utils form synaptic, how do i use it?
[07:07] <talisein> omnius: Are you virtualizing..?
[07:07] <omnius> just bridging 2 nic's
[07:08] <talisein> omnius: I haven't had a chance to play with bridging yet, so man page or google, unless westrel is awake and knows
[07:08] <omnius> how do i run it i should say
[07:08] <talisein> bridge-utils are all command line I believe
[07:08] <talisein> hmm. You might want to check network manager, actually
[07:09] <talisein> Newtoyou: how's it going?
[07:09] <omnius> thanks talisein
[07:10] <talisein> yw
[07:10] <Newtoyou> The prompt wasn't actually displaying anything
[07:10] <Newtoyou> it did last time, did the usually xxxxxx:~xxxx
[07:10] <Newtoyou> err usual
[07:11] <talisein> Newtoyou: I see. Best to try the 6.04 then I think. :)
[07:11] <Newtoyou> Not 6.06?
[07:11] <talisein> err, yeah
[07:11] <Newtoyou> Ah
[07:11] <Newtoyou> Yeah, I'm thinking the same
[07:11] <talisein> I forgot Edgy was on a reduced development time