[16:45] <SchrodingersScat> ChaseTrains: not sure about 'shut down' but there's a power setting to spin them down, and not sure what they do when unmounted
[16:46] <hmmmok> Hello. Could somebody help me make sure my linux machine has already the graphic's card's drivers installed? Thanks.
[16:46] <ChaseTrains> i solved it SchrodingersScat (hdparm can be used to "turn it off"). But do ubuntu spin down unused disks by default?
[16:47] <SchrodingersScat> ChaseTrains: don't think that was default on mine
[16:47] <ChaseTrains> :(
[16:47] <reversiblean> In ubuntu vlc when I jump in playback sound go off on ... this happens in arbitrary jump steps. version: VLC media player 2.1.4 Rincewind (revision 2.1.4-0-g2a072be)
[16:47] <reversiblean>
[16:48] <reversiblean> Please can anybody have a look? http://pastebin.com/agFMsCBH
[16:48] <SchrodingersScat> reversiblean: how do you know that's not the file's problem?
[16:48] <reversiblean> I've tried with multiple files.
[16:49] <reisio> could just be too large a file for your hardware, too
[16:50] <reisio> ew, pulse
[16:50] <reversiblean> yup, may be. but this seems to affect every file.
[16:50] <reversiblean> I only tested .mp4 though.
[16:51] <reversiblean> once the sound is gone it won't come back. I have to jump back and fourth to get it back.
[16:52] <reisio> reversiblean: I'd check with 'mplayer'
[16:52] <reisio> if it's the same, you have a hardware problem
[16:52] <reisio> or... your pulse is insane, I'm not familiar with pulse
[16:52] <reversiblean> totem works fine
[16:53] <reversiblean> I've also tested their daily build. that did not fix either.
[16:54] <reversiblean> I mean ppa:videolan/master-daily
[16:55] <reversiblean> reisio: Do you have any idea about the 'pulse debug: underflow' message?
[16:56] <reisio> nope, sorry I don't use pulse
[16:56] <reisio> never saw the point
[16:59] <reversiblean> ok.. BTW intel have linux audio driver for my motherboard. I think it's better not try them. am i right?
[16:59] <ne0> hi
[17:01] <reisio> reversiblean: hrmm?
[17:04] <patrick-> i know this is unrelated but, playing needforspeed high graphic games on laptop is not good?
[17:04] <patrick-> i notice it overheats the cpu
[17:05] <patrick-> even when i put the graphics at low
[17:05] <reisio> patrick-: more you process, the hotter processors get
[17:05] <reisio> 't'was ever thus
[17:06] <patrick-> reisio, is it ok though?
[17:06] <patrick-> reisio, is it ok to play on laptop?
[17:06] <daftykins> patrick-: what makes you consider it to be overheating? does it power off?
[17:06] <patrick-> i check the temp
[17:06] <patrick-> the temp goes to 100
[17:06] <patrick-> which normal is like 50 and 60
[17:06] <daftykins> is it a few years old, the laptop?
[17:06] <patrick-> i can touch the computer is overheating
[17:06] <patrick-> last year
[17:07] <daftykins> did that game run fine under Windows, or overheat too?
[17:07] <reisio> 100 C?
[17:07] <patrick-> i got it last year tosiba intel corei7
[17:07] <daftykins> erk
[17:07] <patrick-> im running it on win8
[17:07] <reisio> IME things aren't broken till they're broken
[17:07] <reisio> but I also don't waste time playing computer games :p
[17:07] <daftykins> patrick-: then please do not concern us with non-ubuntu issues
[17:07] <reisio> ^
[17:08] <patrick-> what channel is there?
[17:08] <cfhowlett> patrick- ##windows
[17:08] <patrick-> on freenode for tech help?
[17:08] <daftykins> #hardware - or ##hardware
[17:08] <jackbnimb> hi.. currently running ubuntu 14.04.  see there is an update release 14.04.1.  will 14.04 update through the repositories automatically, or does the update need to be manually installed?
[17:08] <juniour> hi i have dual boot i cant mount window spartaion as rw mode in ubuntu help
[17:08] <juniour> plz
[17:08] <daftykins> jackbnimb: automatic
[17:08] <patrick-> but it wluld do the same in linux
[17:09] <patrick-> hello
[17:09] <jackbnimb> daftykins - thanks
[17:09] <daftykins> juniour: what happens? does it error saying it's unclean?
[17:09] <patrick-> its same thing
[17:09] <patrick-> this issue is nothing to do with windows
[17:09] <juniour> yep its hiberfiel.sys making problem
[17:09] <patrick-> its the lapto;
[17:09] <patrick-> laptop
[17:09] <cfhowlett> jackbnimb sudo apt-get dist-upgrade        will do it
[17:09] <daftykins> patrick-: nor is it to do with ubuntu, go and join hardware.
[17:09] <juniour> i tried remove_hiberfiel
[17:09] <patrick-> ok
[17:09] <daftykins> juniour: just boot Windows then shut it down properly. is it windows 8? you need to use the shift key to shutdown if so
[17:10] <juniour> yep i can disable fast hybrid booth there
[17:10] <juniour> but i want to override here only
[17:10] <daftykins> juniour: so you're intentionally making it more difficult? i'm sorry but that's unacceptable, resolve it in Windows.
[17:10] <cfhowlett> juniour DO NOT over ride your windows settings from ubuntu.  this is a bad idea.  BAD.
[17:11] <juniour> cfhowlett y bad idea
[17:11] <juniour> ?
[17:11] <daftykins> juniour: because it can break Windows, so please, do as instructed
[17:11] <reisio> reversiblean: so did you try mplayer?
[17:12] <juniour> cfhowlett this will not break windows its just hiber file snapshot of ram.
[17:12] <juniour> to make win fastboot
[17:12] <daftykins> juniour: so do as instructed, resolve Windows' state, boot back into ubuntu and try the mount again - then if there are still issues, share an error with us
[17:13] <cfhowlett> juniour when you break your windows (because you refuse to follow good advice) go to ##windows to get it repaired - not this channel.  good luck
[17:13] <juniour> i am asking something, u giving else ans
[17:13] <eeee> juniour: if you don't want to turn it off, for some reason, you can restart instead of shutting down windows, before booting into ubuntu to mount
[17:13] <eeee> juniour: they are giving you reasonable answers
[17:14] <juniour> i am asking to mount in ubuntu only dont want to restart or reboot
[17:14] <daftykins> juniour: but that's ridiculous
[17:14] <eeee> juniour: the whole filesystem is unstable, you only booting into ubuntu is rather dangerous since the /boot partition could get corrupted
[17:15] <daftykins> what is with people today, even a reboot is too much to ask =|
[17:15] <reisio> rebooting is a waste of time
[17:15] <ChaseTrains> is there a script that I can run when the whole system starts? Not .bashrc. I'm going to put "hdparm -y /dev/.." and "hdparm -S /dev/.."  there
[17:15] <eeee> next thing you know you'll be asking here about corrupted efi's and running dosfsck .. just do as they are telling you
[17:15] <eeee> it's for the best..
[17:16] <juniour> eeee i dont care for that i wan to learn like that thats y. as i know all aboot winds fasthybrid and disable it . but i mostly use linux so i want oleant how to achive that
[17:16] <juniour> hi
[17:16] <reisio> hi juniour
[17:16] <juniour> can any one know waht i am asking
[17:16] <juniour> ?
[17:17] <daftykins> you have been told what to do, you're on your own if you refuse to follow the advice.
[17:17] <juniour> yes i dont care. ifany one know plz tell me
[17:18] <eeee> juniour: do you want to mount in read-only, or you also want write?
[17:18] <daftykins> eeee: rw
[17:18] <r00t_> hey, newbie here.
[17:18] <juniour> eee rw
[17:18] <juniour> eeee rw
[17:18] <daftykins> but we shouldn't enable laziness
[17:18] <daftykins> r00t_: do you have a question?
[17:19] <ChaseTrains> where are the options for harddisk spin down time in xubuntu?
[17:19] <r00t_> no, hehe. just say hi to you all..
[17:19] <juniour> eeee i can mount as ro , but i need write permision also.
[17:19] <daftykins> !offtopic | r00t_
[17:19] <juniour> soud mount -ro -o device_name folders
[17:19] <ChaseTrains> found it
[17:19] <Rohan_m> I 'm coding in C and when i use function popen() it skips many part of code and goes directally to popen() statement
[17:20] <cfhowlett> juniour ubuntu refuses to mount win as a well intentioned user protection.  what you're after is against every rule of running dual/multi OS systems.
[17:20] <juniour> ohhh ok
[17:20] <eeee> juniour: yes what you're asking is absurd
[17:21] <juniour> y its against its my systeam i can do anything i can want
[17:21] <cfhowlett> juniour yep.  doesn
[17:21] <cfhowlett> you're right.  but it doesn't mean we have to help you break things.  ask ##linux or somewhere else
[17:21] <Rohan_m> eeee: I 'm coding in C and when i use function popen() it skips many part of code and goes directally to popen() statement
[17:21] <juniour> i dont care for break.
[17:21] <eeee> when you run windows afterwards it will mess it up
[17:22] <juniour> eeee i dont care for break or unstable. if u know can guide me
[17:22] <cfhowlett> juniour understood.  But you ARE trying to override ubuntu's built in safety measures so - ask somewhere else
[17:22] <juniour> hummm
[17:22] <juniour> ok
[17:23] <akincer> Is this the best channel to make a strong suggestion of better handling of /boot with regards to upgrades on the desktop? Just spent some time fixing my wife's laptop because /boot ran out of space and a kernel image was corrupted. It was non-trivial to fix and especially so for non-techies. This really has to be fixed going forward IMO
[17:23] <reisio> akincer: launchpad.net
[17:23] <reisio> I forget if the installer defaults ot no separate /boot
[17:23] <reisio> I believe it does
[17:23] <reisio> which would circumvent that issue
[17:24] <daftykins> akincer: ubuntu installs as a single partition these days, so it's unlikely your scenario will affect others.
[17:24] <daftykins> reisio: yep
[17:24] <akincer> good point. It was a default 12.04 install originally that was upgraded to 14.04
[17:24] <reisio> 'cept for maybe UEFI nonsense
[17:24] <damearin> Hello
[17:24] <reisio> not that there is really any excuse for an upgrade to break a system :)
[17:24] <reisio> damearin: 'lo
[17:24] <akincer> I've  never had a default install manage /boot well
[17:24] <reisio> I've never had a separate /boot
[17:24] <daftykins> akincer: yeah something as old as 12.04 would have had tonnes of kernels, was the 'corruption' more just an inability of the system to finish a kernel install due to lack of space?
[17:24] <reisio> there's no point :)
[17:25] <reisio> y'know, unless there is, which is rare
[17:25]  * cfhowlett /filesystem + /home + /swap
[17:25] <daftykins> i'd always done a separate /boot of 250MB+, but that's because i thought that the kernel being at the start of a mechanical disk made boot faster, but i've been told i'm wrong on that
[17:25] <akincer> daftykins: I think so, but I wasn't there during the upgrade process (she DID listen to my instructions to update when asked to do so (: ) So I'm merely theorizing since there was less than 11 megs left on /boot
[17:25] <reisio> you don't need separate /home, either, if you can update your distro without it breaking :)
[17:26] <daftykins> akincer: ah, and more than likely that space counted toward root's reserved 5% too
[17:26] <reisio> well in the very old days, certain data had to be early on the disk
[17:26] <reisio> but those days are long gone
[17:26] <reisio> mostly :p
[17:26] <daftykins> i think a separate /home makes a lot of sense regardless
[17:26] <reisio> and I like swap partitions 'cause they're handy, but swap files work just as well (for swap)
[17:26] <daftykins> but anywho, that's more general chat
[17:26] <reisio> daftykins: why's that?
[17:27] <akincer> For me, it's not a problem to fix. I'm more concerned about this kind of issue proliferating as less savvy users come on board which seems to be happening these days
[17:27] <fishcooker>  i have 2 interface .. first interface on from modem(internet) and the other to the AP.. how to routing the packet so that the client of ap can access the internet?
[17:27] <daftykins> reisio: well lets say it's a mechanical system hypothetically, i'd see sense in keeping the OS data at the start of the drive where it's faster... and let user data remain toward the end. i don't believe in upgrades though, so that way it's easier to clean install too preserving /home :)
[17:28] <akincer> although I'm REALLY glad I was with her when it broke so I didn't have to walk her through it
[17:28] <daftykins> fishcooker: standard ubuntu? i believe you can go through the network-manager and share the connection
[17:29] <daftykins> fishcooker: try this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/60980/how-to-share-a-wired-internet-connection-via-wifi
[17:32] <ChaseTrains> I'm trying to figure out whether hard disk spin down when idle is bad for the hard disk. Is it?
[17:33] <daftykins> yes, it can induce extra wear over time
[17:33] <daftykins> depends on the system type and usage
[17:35] <Bisono> help
[17:35] <Bisono> clear
[17:35] <daftykins> you have to ask a question first, Bisono
[17:35] <cfhowlett> !details|Bisono
[17:36] <RainMan28> I'm on 12.04 LTS and keep getting a warning that my Hareware Enablement Stack (HWE) is going out of support next week. When I try to do sudo apt-get upgrade it tells me there's no packages to upgrade. Also sudo do-release-upgrade finds nothing. What do I do?
[17:36] <Bisono> sorry guys, using irssi for the first time.. my bad.
[17:36] <Guest11565> Hi, I'm trying to resize my partition but it's not letting me go more then 44MB
[17:36] <cfhowlett> RainMan28 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:36] <RainMan28> cfhowlett: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:37] <daftykins> Guest11565: can you share via paste.ubuntu.com some disk info? or a picture if you're using a graphical partition utility?
[17:37] <daftykins> Guest11565: e.g. "sudo parted -l"
[17:37] <Guest11565> not sure how... it's an lvm2 pv partition
[17:37] <cfhowlett> RainMan28 I'm not familiar with the HWE but see no reason why it would go out of support.  However, 14.04 is available.
[17:38] <daftykins> oh, i have no idea of LVM then.
[17:38] <daftykins> someone else will have to chip in
[17:38] <RainMan28> cfhowlett: yeah, I'm looking at this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL
[17:38] <RainMan28> cfhowlett: maybe I should try "update-manager -p" ?
[17:39] <Flannel> daftykins, Guest11565: a PV is identical to a regular partition, so that command is still meaningful.
[17:39] <cfhowlett> RainMan28 can't hurt
[17:39] <afrokarlsson> hi guys, where can i find channel list, can you help me?
[17:39] <eeee> !alis | afrokarlsson
[17:39] <reisio> afrokarlsson: /msg alis list *term*s*
[17:39] <abailarri> Hello. After to update my ubuntu 14, the network icon of the top panel desapared. Anyone know how to put again?
[17:40] <Guest11565> Model: ATA WDC WD15EARS-60M (scsi)
[17:40] <Guest11565> Disk /dev/sda: 1500GB
[17:40] <Guest11565> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
[17:40] <Guest11565> Partition Table: msdos
[17:40] <Guest11565> Number  Start   End     Size    Type      File system  Flags
[17:40] <Guest11565>  1      1049kB  256MB   255MB   primary   ext2         boot
[17:40] <unopaste> Guest11565 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:40] <RainMan28> cfhowlett: ah that gives an error about x11 initialization failed
[17:40] <guna> hi
[17:40] <RainMan28> I have a version of ubuntu desktop 12.04 LTS installed on the machine but I only have ssh access to it
[17:41] <Guest18210> helllo
[17:41] <daftykins> Guest11565: that was not paste.ubuntu.com
[17:41] <reisio> 'lo
[17:42] <sai> Hi, I am using https://github.com/ignited/laravel-pdf. However, I am getting error that says "Permission Denied"
[17:42] <Guest11565> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7867382/
[17:42] <Guest11565> Sorry!
[17:42] <sai> I am installing on the ubuntu server
[17:42] <cfhowlett> !server | sai
[17:42] <awesomess3> is there an easy way to see which packages have been recently updated in the packages that you're about to install with `apt-get`?
[17:42] <daftykins> Guest11565: so... i'm seeing a full disk, what exactly are you trying to achieve?
[17:43] <Guest11565> I want to resize it, it's not full though
[17:43] <Guest11565> trying to make room for a windows install to dual boot
[17:43] <daftykins> Guest11565: i mean full as in all the space is allocated, do you mean you want to shrink one?
[17:43] <daftykins> aaaaah
[17:43] <Guest11565> yea shring
[17:43] <daftykins> ok, now we're getting somewhere
[17:43] <Guest11565> shrink
[17:44] <Guest11565> I'm still new to linux
[17:44] <daftykins> you really should've installed Windows first, but oh well
[17:44] <daftykins> do you have much data/configuration on this ubuntu install?
[17:44] <Guest11565> only using I think less than 20 gb
[17:44] <sai_> thank you.
[17:45] <RainMan28> can anyone help me upgrade 12.04.4 LTS to 14.04 LTS via SSH? I keep getting an annoying message about no upgrade available and how my HWE is EOL on 8/7/14.
[17:45] <daftykins> RainMan28: did you run dist-upgrade yet as suggested?
[17:45] <RainMan28> yes
[17:45] <RainMan28> daftykins: says no upgrade available
[17:45] <daftykins> and no new kernel?
[17:45] <daftykins> hmm
[17:45] <awesomess3> If you have a host of .deb files to install, how could you know which order to install them in if you had to install each one one-by-one?
[17:45] <mkanyicy> !upgrade
[17:46] <mkanyicy> !upgrade | RainMan28
[17:46] <RainMan28> that upgrade link doesn't have instructions for going from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS
[17:47] <daftykins> Guest11565: if you had an external disk to backup to, as a new user i think it'd be far less painful for you to backup and wipe the disk, then install Windows first and ubuntu after. but if you want to continue, you'll need to boot a live session ideally (of ubuntu) then resize from inside that
[17:48] <Guest11565> I don't have a spare drive, already on a live cd. Problem is it's not letting me resize more than 44mb
[17:48] <RainMan28> doing sudo do-release-upgrade returns "Checking for a new Ubuntu release. No new release found." I have confirmed I'm on 12.04 LTS...why does it not see the 14.04 LTS?
[17:48] <daftykins> Guest11565: as in it will only let you shrink down by 44MB? what are you using to try this?
[17:48] <cfhowlett> RainMan28 my 12.04 doesn't see 14.04 either - something I was assured would take place at the .1 release.
[17:49] <Guest11565> using gparted and yea, just stops at 44mb
[17:49] <Guest11565> freespace following mib
[17:49] <RainMan28> cfhowlett: yeah, and I keep getting the HWE EOL warning...any idea why we aren't able to see 14.04?
[17:49] <alex72gr> server irc.gimp.org
[17:49] <InspectorCluseau> I upgraded my kubuntu 12.04 to 14.04.1 with no issues
[17:49] <Flannel> Guest11565: Before resizing the LVM PV, you'll need to resize the LVM LV/VG inside of it.  Here's a reasonable tutorial on it: http://blog.shadypixel.com/how-to-shrink-an-lvm-volume-safely/
[17:50] <cfhowlett> RainMan28 no idea.
[17:50] <Flannel> (By resizing the LV, you'll automatically resize the VG that it is contained within)
[17:50] <RainMan28> cfhowlett: are you able to run "update-manager" from the CLI on your install?
[17:50] <Rohan_m> I need a help with C programming
[17:50] <daftykins> Rohan_m: that's not appropriate here, find a channel for C
[17:50] <cfhowlett> rohan wrong channel
[17:51] <rww> Rohan_m: identify to NickServ and /join ##c
[17:51] <rww> !register
[17:52] <Flannel> RainMan28: Just for the record (despite what the message says), your 12.04 is still supported, and you'll still get updates after that date, you'll just transition (and it'll be *quite* the transition) onto 14.04 kernels/etc
[17:53] <Guest11565> I don't understand this command e2fsck -f /dev/polar/root how do I find the volume group and logical volume names to put in?
[17:53] <RainMan28> Flannel: thanks, but is it true that I will stop receiving updates for the kernel and graphics stack from August 7th?
[17:53] <RainMan28> Flannel: the wiki seems to say that kernel and graphics stack won't update anymore
[17:54] <Guest11565> ok I know the vg name, do I keep root in the command?
[17:54] <Flannel> RainMan28: the 12.04 kernel/graphics won't be updated, and you'll be transitioned into newer kernel/graphics *within* 12.04 (this is that whole 12.04.5 HWE thing)
[17:54] <RainMan28> ok
[17:54] <daftykins> Guest11565: hit the first character of paths then hit tab to auto complete, to check they're there
[17:55] <RainMan28> Flannel: so I can just ignore the warning message on login for now and just stick to the normal apt-get update and apt-get upgrade commands?
[17:55] <Flannel> RainMan28: "root" in that is the LV's name (read the following paragraph, where he talks about /dev/<volume group>/<logical volume>)
[17:56] <RainMan28> Guest11565, that was intended for you ^
[17:56] <Flannel> Sorry.
[17:56] <Flannel> Guest11565: That's how it was explained to me, but that was a while ago and the actual implementation I'm unsure about.  That wiki page is the entirety of the official documentation.
[17:56] <RainMan28> haha
[17:56] <RainMan28> was that meant for me?
[17:57] <Flannel> RainMan28: That's how it was explained to me, but that was a while ago and the actual implementation I'm unsure about.  That wiki page is the entirety of the official documentation that I've seen (and all it says is "ask this tool!", which obviously isn't conveying information the best right now)
[17:58] <Flannel> RainMan28: However, if you're still interesting in upgrading your install to 14.04, we can sort that out too.  It's possible your mirror isn't entirely up to date with 14.04.1, in which case you can force it along with some flags.
[17:59] <RainMan28> sure, lets try it. This install was mainly to learn about Ubuntu and this is learning
[18:00] <ChaseTrains> do you set the audio to 50% (default) or should it be 100% if you have external speakers?
[18:01] <Flannel> RainMan28: So, by default, LTS won't upgrade to the next LTS until the first point release (14.04.1, which is "about now" instead of back in April).
[18:01] <RainMan28> yeah
[18:02] <RainMan28> i thought the 14.04.1 was released on July 24th
[18:02] <RainMan28> or at least was scheduled to
[18:02] <Guest11565> when using resize2fs /dev/polar/root 180G, is this resizing the current partition or is this the size of the new one?
[18:02] <Footy> Id consider that "about now"
[18:02] <Flannel> RainMan28: In the past, we've always done this pre-point release upgrades with do-release-upgrade -d, but apparently there's a -p flag as well.  So lets go ahead and try the -p flag, see what it says.
[18:03] <RainMan28> ok
[18:03] <daftykins> did that not give the X11 error mentioned before?
[18:03] <WACOMalt> Hey folks. I'm running Ubuntu in a VM, and I have a virtual disk. I just booted to the live CD so that I could resize partitions in the vdi file, but I am unable to extend the main partition because the swap partition is in the middle, and unmovable
[18:03] <WACOMalt> any ideas?
[18:03] <Flannel> Guest11565: Read the next paragraph.  In fact, read the WHOLE tutorial thing before doing any commands.
[18:03] <daftykins> WACOMalt: delete it, recreate... set as you want it, then update the /etc/fstab entries to reflect the changes
[18:04] <RainMan28> daftykins: nah, doing upgrade-manager -p gave the x11 error
[18:04] <daftykins> RainMan28: ah ok, sorry
[18:04] <Guest11565> I have, twice now... I'm new to linux so I don't understand what it's trying to do exactly
[18:04] <WACOMalt> I have no idea how to do that last bit :/
[18:05] <RainMan28> Flannel: ok, that seems to be working (the -p flag)...its recommending not upgrading via SSH though, but its a digital ocean droplet so I don't know how else I would be able to do an upgrade
[18:05] <daftykins> WACOMalt: ok well do the other steps, then run "sudo blkid" to get the new UUID's, then update /etc/fstab with them
[18:05] <WACOMalt> http://i.imgur.com/PEn5YFk.png
[18:05] <WACOMalt> so this cant be done via only gparted?
[18:05] <Guest11565> I decided to just split the space in half
[18:06] <Flannel> RainMan28:  I wouldn't worry about it.  It's basicalyl saying "You're upgrading, ssh is upgrading too! You might not have ssh come back afterwards if things go south".  Which, assuming digital ocean is some remotely hosted thing, you don't have a choice on.
[18:06] <RainMan28> ok cool
[18:06] <Guest11565> if I screw it up then whatever, don't have anything really important to lose. Important things get uploaded to drop box
[18:07] <Flannel> Guest11565: The resizefs command is resizing the filesystem on the partition, it needs to be SMALLER (for safety) than what you're ultimately going to resize the actual partition/LV to.  (Then you resize it back up to fill it completely)
[18:07] <Guest11565> yea, doing the first resize at 480 then the lvreduce one at 500
[18:08] <daftykins> WACOMalt: so right click -> swapoff, delete the swap partition and the extended partition, then resize sda1
[18:08] <aguitel_> is anyone triyng to install 14.04 in acer-aspireone 725   ?
[18:08] <Flannel> Think of it as you're shrinking the bag of stuff inside the box (1), then you shrink the box, then you shrink box2, which had the box(1) in it.
[18:08] <Guest11565> just hope I don't screw something up, would hate to have to reinstall everything and reset it up
[18:08] <RainMan28> Flannel: ah ok, now its saying "no valid mirror found" and is asking if I want to rewrite the sources.list file anyways? If I choose 'Yes' it will update all the 'precise' to 'trusty' entries.
[18:08] <daftykins> WACOMalt: and no, you need to update things about your install afterward, but don't worry it's trivial to do.
[18:08] <WACOMalt> daftykins, done. Do I need to worry about recreating swap?
[18:08] <Flannel> RainMan28: It will.  I'm not sure what that error is about, but yes, it will.
[18:09] <RainMan28> Flannel: ok so I'll go ahead with no then, since it didn't update
[18:09] <daftykins> WACOMalt: how much RAM does the VM have?
[18:09] <WACOMalt> 8GB
[18:09] <WACOMalt> I can bump that up to 16 if need be
[18:09] <daftykins> WACOMalt: crikey, depends what it runs then.
[18:09] <WACOMalt> I'm only using this once for one thing
[18:09] <WACOMalt> to merge some clonezilla images
[18:09] <daftykins> WACOMalt: don't worry then, but you'll need to edit /etc/fstab anyway and comment out the mount line for the swap partition anyway
[18:09] <Flannel> RainMan28: Maybe your lack of repositories is why it wasn't upgrading already ;)
[18:10] <WACOMalt> ok. do I do that after I try to boot?
[18:10] <RainMan28> Flannel: could be...its using the digitalocean mirrors
[18:10] <daftykins> WACOMalt: no because you'll get errors on boot, you do it now :) would you like command assistance?
[18:10] <WACOMalt> yes please :) and if you can PM that'd be great
[18:10] <daftykins> sure
[18:11] <Flannel> RainMan28: yeah, VPS installs are always a little bit off kilter.
[18:11] <RainMan28> Flannel: trying it on my local ubuntu box, and it seems to be working fine and downloading updates
[18:15] <xtriz> i need to add the path $HOME/bin to my path variable where can i add it ?
[18:16] <valindo> hi
[18:16] <valindo> hi
[18:16] <xtriz> it's already there by default in .profile
[18:16] <cfhowlett> valindo ask your ubuntu question
[18:17] <valindo> how do i disable my keyboard?
[18:17] <xtriz> valindo, disable keyboard ?
[18:17] <xtriz> just remove it
[18:18] <valindo> yeah , My laptop keyboard
[18:18] <WACOMalt> (maybe a laptop?)
[18:18] <WACOMalt> yup :P
[18:18] <valindo> I doubt removing it will be an option :'D
[18:18] <Footy> i found coke cola quite effective
[18:18] <xtriz> hehe :P
[18:18] <WACOMalt> look up xtrlock
[18:18] <valindo> Coca Cola is the reason I am here
[18:18] <WACOMalt> lets you lock mouse/keyboard but not screen
[18:18] <valindo> ._.
[18:18] <Footy> hahahaha
[18:19] <cfhowlett> Jolt Cola: all the sugar and twice the caffiene
[18:19] <WACOMalt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993800
[18:20] <xtriz> in .bashrc, what does HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth means ?
[18:21] <Flannel> xtriz: HISTCONTROL has two options: ignorespace (ignore commands that start with a space) and ignoredups (ignore duplicate commands).  ignoreboth is just one way of specifying to do both of those things.
[18:21] <valindo> See I wanna connect an external Keyboard and use my laptop because few keys aren't  working...any solutions>
[18:21] <xtriz> Flannel, cool :)
[18:22] <cfhowlett> valindo plug in - the new KB should be detected
[18:22] <xtriz> Flannel, man bash to learn about the various possible options for config ?
[18:22] <valindo> also the reason I wanna do this is because the keys on the laptop tend to malfunction and randomly move up, down or copy paste random shi
[18:23] <Flannel> xtriz: it's in there, yes.
[18:23] <pdo_fn14> I can't upgrade to 14.04.1 anymore, just going with do-release-upgrade --mode=desktop with no new version.
[18:24] <valindo> @cfhowlett - The main issue is the laptop keyboard malfunction
[18:24] <xtriz> Flannel, ok
[18:25] <valindo> pdo_fn14 have u tried $ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:27] <pdo_fn14> valindo: I think with update-manager will be calling to refresh apt, cmiiw.
[18:29] <pdo_fn14_> Sorry just brb because my data cellular is killed. Can you repeat your answer?.
[18:30] <xtriz> Flannel, man bash has really tons of info :) most of them up over my head :D
[18:30] <Flannel> xtriz: yeah, there's almost certainly better (more digestible) resources out there.
[18:31] <xtriz> Flannel, like ? do you know any ?
[18:32] <Urchin[emacs]> there's a bunch of bash scripting books
[18:32] <Urchin[emacs]> and tutorial websites
[18:32] <cfhowlett> http://www.linuxine.com/linuxbooks
[18:32] <xtriz> Urchin[emacs], books ? can you name some ?
[18:32] <cfhowlett> xtriz see above
[18:33] <xtriz> cfhowlett, chk those books rightaway :)
[18:34] <xtriz> cfhowlett, the linux cli that is the book which might be prove useful for me :D
[18:34] <cfhowlett> xtriz happy2help
[18:34] <Urchin[emacs]> xtriz: look for titles containing shell scripting or bash scripting in them
[18:35] <xtriz> ok :) happy to be part of ubuntu community :)
[18:37] <mario_> alguien de peru ?
[18:37] <cfhowlett> !peruvian
[18:37] <cfhowlett> !peru
[18:37] <Jeffrey_f> anyone know rsyslog? PM me as it will be off-topic
[18:37] <cfhowlett> !es
[18:42] <klixa> hey everyone
[18:46] <daftykins> klixa: hello. do you have a question?
[18:47] <Aaruni|webwalach> I really need a way to install grub 2.02 onto Ubuntu precise. Help ?
[18:47] <cfhowlett> !precise
[18:47] <Aaruni|webwalach> cfhowlett: ?
[18:48] <cfhowlett> !grub2 | Aaruni|webwalach short answer: make a boot USB, install
[18:48] <Aaruni|webwalach> cfhowlett: precise only installs grub 1.99, not grub 2.02
[18:48] <Guest11565> How long should it take to resize a partition?
[18:49] <cfhowlett> Guest11565 depends on factors - size, ram, what else you're doing ...
[18:49] <Guest11565> ok, just feels like its been forever now, probably really 30 minutes though
[18:50] <cfhowlett> Guest11565 patience
[18:50] <Pinkamena_D> Hey guys, having quite the issue today. I did a do-release-upgrade from 11 to 12.04 and now my server cant boot  with the 'gave up waiting for root device' error
[18:50] <Aaruni|webwalach> so, cfhowlett ?
[18:50] <WACOMalt> So, if I have a server on 10.04....
[18:50] <cfhowlett> Aaruni|webwalach so ... I sent you a link.  READ
[18:51] <ChaseTrains> I'm used to mounting stuff to /mnt/. Why should I mount to /media/? It's a secondary hd
[18:51] <WACOMalt> is there a clean path to updating it to current?
[18:51] <Pinkamena_D> I booted to an ubuntu-server install disk and sa2 /dev/sda1,2,5 and other drives lister there. I tried putting the GRUB config to those SDA ones which I am 99% sure is where the OS is
[18:51] <Aaruni|webwalach> cfhowlett: it talks about if I loose my GRUB after installing windows or something. but I have a fully functional grub. only, that its 1.99, and not 2.* . I know its possible, because I did it once, I just can not recall how.
[18:51] <cfhowlett> WACOMalt you can upgrade LTS to LTS - I THINK you can upgrade 10.04 > 12.04 > 14.04
[18:51] <Pinkamena_D> but it still fails for all of them
[18:52] <cfhowlett> Aaruni|webwalach 1.99 = 2
[18:52] <Pinkamena_D> also initramfs shows no SDA devices at all in /dev. not sure if this is normal
[18:52] <WACOMalt> cfhowlett, in your oppinion, how much stuff would break?
[18:52] <Aaruni|webwalach> cfhowlett: 1.99 != 2.02
[18:52] <abaday> hi, how do I choose boot-options when installing ubuntu 14.04 with a usb-stick?
[18:52] <ph88> hey guys, i tried to follow this instruction to add an icon for a file type, but it's not showing up. What to do??  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingMimeTypes
[18:52] <cfhowlett> WACOMalt better you ask in #ubuntu-server
[18:53] <WACOMalt> kk
[18:55] <Aaruni|webwalach> cfhowlett: I'll try to explain my situation better. I have trusty and precise in dual boot. the grub 1.99 breaks all the submenus for trusty, and the grub 2.02 from trusty makes trusty the default boot. I want to boot into precise by default, while not breaking the submenus in GRUB. hence, I want to install Grub 2.02 in Ubuntu Precise. Now, can you help me ?
[18:56] <eeee> Aaruni|webwalach: you should get grub 2.02 in trusty to find the Precise installation
[18:56] <Aaruni|webwalach> eeee: but I can't get grub 2.02 from trusty to boot into precise by default.
[18:57] <cfhowlett> Aaruni|webwalach I'm still on 12.04 and my grub is 1.99 - not sure I'm the one ...
[18:57] <eeee> you can change the default OS selection, not to mention the timeout
[18:57] <Aaruni|webwalach> cfhowlett: ok, thanks anyway
[18:57] <Aaruni|webwalach> eeee: can you tell me how ?
[18:57] <eeee> gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[18:58] <mint_> hello
[18:58] <syntroPi_> when i provide GRUB_BADRAM parameter in /etc/default/grub and update-grub then reboot, how would i confirm that the kernel got those memory maps?
[18:58] <Aaruni|webwalach> eeee: thanks!
[18:59] <eeee> np :)
[18:59] <daftykins> syntroPi_: check the boot logs, like dmesg and /var/log/syslog / /var/log/messages
[19:00] <syntroPi_> daftykins, yes but those are very verbose, hence my question what to look for: do you know any keywords to find in those files?
[19:00] <daftykins> your question didn't quite specify that :) no ideas i'm afraid
[19:00] <daftykins> just play with grep \o/
[19:03] <Rohan_m> Wtf i'm coding in C and trying to use delay(); and it says "undefined reference to delay" even though stdio.h and stdlib.h are there
[19:03] <ikonia> Rohan_m: tone down your language
[19:03] <ikonia> Rohan_m: use ##c or ##c-beginners
[19:03] <Rohan_m> ikonia: sry
[19:03] <ikonia> Rohan_m: learning C is not an ubuntu problem
[19:03] <ikonia> Rohan_m: this channel is for the OS / application support
[19:03] <daftykins> this is also not the first time you've been told as much
[19:03] <syntroPi_> daftykins, hmm a quick search for that address didnt show up anything find /var -type f -exec grep -n -H 38c14aeac {} \;
[19:22] <plinio> server irc.chlame.net
[19:22] <c|oneman> how can I tell if/when a linux server was upgraded (via dist-upgrade for example)
[19:22] <jeffreylevesque_> Trying to install ubuntu server 14.04 do i select "Install", or "Install Ubuntu Server".  Which do i select?
[19:23] <daftykins> i wouldn't expect to see a repeat of the same message
[19:24] <daftykins> jeffreylevesque_: there's only one for me - https://www.dropbox.com/s/g9nsylpgoppp6lx/serverinstall.JPG
[19:26] <delinquentme> I know that its sub-ideal to be mining bitcoins on non dedicated mining hardware ... BUT  In the case that I want to do this anyways ... what package should I be using ??
[19:26] <jeffreylevesque_> http://tinypic.com/r/160bzg8/8
[19:26] <delinquentme> bitcoin-stable?
[19:27] <cre8torx> anyone try kylin
[19:27] <daftykins> delinquentme: that's beyond the scope of this channel.
[19:27] <bazhang> delinquentme, try #eligius
[19:28] <daftykins> jeffreylevesque_: ah unetbootin, either should work.
[19:29] <dr0p> hello, does anyone faced problems when using tmux + vim? I cannot use any colorscheme properly. Got grey background instead of black.
[19:35] <c0ffee_> dr0p,  I could somehow fix it when was tweaking powerline plugin and gruvbox colorscheme their wikis, probably have answer. https://github.com/morhetz/gruvbox/wiki
[19:35] <rawrmonster> I am trying to connect to a windows machine from "Browse Network". I had just connected fine and got all the way to the folder I needed but decided to connect to ethernet to transfer the file because it was really big. Not it just keeps asking for the password over and over. I know the password is right because i can log in to the machine. I have tried restarting the machine. I have also tried disabling ethernet and going back to wifi but that no longe
[19:36] <Bashing-om> clopez: For the release/verion you have -> lsb_release-a <- for the kernel (version) -> unname -a <- , for what dpkg had done; inspect -> /var/log/dpkg.log <- .
[19:59] <Fabiano> Guys, does anyone have any idea how to connect a HP 50g ubuntu?
[20:01] <cyb3rty> hi. i get the '[XORG] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)' error when i try to use bumblebee. can you help me with it?
[20:04] <daftykins> Fabiano: what even is that?
[20:05] <Guido1> I have an external drive which makes some sound, but except for that it works just fine. How can I find out if I should replace the drive anyway? Right now I'm running GSmartControl
[20:05] <daftykins> cyb3rty: did you follow a guide to setup bumblebee? was it working a moment ago, but not now?
[20:05] <Footy> Guido1 are you running hdd or ssd?
[20:06] <Fabiano> a calculator daftykins
[20:06] <daftykins> Guido1: install 'smartmontools' and check the SMART info by running 'sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX' - pastebin it for us at paste.ubuntu.com if you'd like a second opinion
[20:06] <Footy> if your ssd is making noise you should replace immeidately :D
[20:07] <cyb3rty> daftykins: yes, i've installed it properly. no, it never worked, but i had '[XORG] (EE) intel(0): [drm] failed to set drm interface version: Permission denied [13]' error before
[20:07] <Guido1> daftykins: what is the pakage name?
[20:07] <daftykins> Guido1: that's the very first part of my message.
[20:08] <cyb3rty> daftykins: i've been trying to make it work for a damn week already. nothing helpes
[20:08] <cyb3rty> helps*
[20:08] <daftykins> cyb3rty: i would submit to you that you have not installed correctly :)
[20:08] <Guido1> daftykins: i tryed that, but i get an error if i want to use the name
[20:09] <daftykins> Guido1: until you share what you're running and the error i can't tell what's up
[20:09] <daftykins> "sudo apt-get install smartmontools" should be fine if this is ubuntu
[20:09] <Guido1> daftykins: forgot the ¨ install" ...
[20:10] <daftykins> ;)
[20:10] <Guido1> already instaled
[20:11] <Guido1> daftykins: just running the long scan via the GUI
[20:11] <RainMan28> guys I was doing an upgrade and it asked me whether to overwrite a file or not and I hit 'D' to see the differences, and after that I accidentally did CTRL-C and it quit out of the upgrade process
[20:11] <RainMan28> how do I go back to it? now if I do sudo do-release-upgrade -p it says no upgrade available
[20:12] <daftykins> Guido1: GUI? but this one's a command line tool :D
[20:12] <daftykins> RainMan28: try sudo apt-get -f install
[20:12] <RainMan28> nothing
[20:12] <MrQuist> Hiya guys
[20:12] <RainMan28> daftykins: says 0 upgrade, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded
[20:13] <daftykins> RainMan28: yeah, no ideas then sorry
[20:13] <MrQuist> Quick question - my retarded ISP thinks its a good idea to block port 25 for their users. Can't send mails anymore.
[20:13] <RainMan28> ubuntu is a lot harder than I thought :/
[20:13] <MrQuist> Now, im looking for a way to forward a port - my mailserver listens to port 25. Can i just redirect incoming port "225" or something to "25" ?
[20:14] <cyb3rty> RainMan28: people who call linux user-friendly are damned liars
[20:14] <daftykins> RainMan28: i think there's something quirky about your setup that makes it a lot more awkward than usual
[20:14] <MrQuist> I've searched for portforwarding, port mapping, port aliasing, but i can't find anything, maybe im looking at the wrong place, but i actually want 2 entrances to the SMTP service. Both on port 25 and 225. Anybody here knows how to do that?
[20:14] <RainMan28> daftykins: yea, not sure what, never done anything strange to it, just installed
[20:14] <MrQuist> IPTables is ... gibberish to me
[20:14] <daftykins> cyb3rty: i don't know anyone that claims that, but know that your issue comes from nvidia' lack of willingness to offer official support in Linux for their optimus tech, so Linux is not to blame.
[20:15] <ChaseTrains> hi. How do I get hard disks to spin down in ubuntu? I can't even spin it down with hdparm -Y since I added it to fstab
[20:16] <daftykins> MrQuist: no, because how would any other mail server know that you weren't running on a standard port? :)
[20:16] <daftykins> MrQuist: in fairness i'm no mail guy, you could ask again in #ubuntu-server
[20:16] <MrQuist> daftykins, thats why im looking on forwarding a port.
[20:16] <Guest8170> I open a file manager like Thunar or Nautilus, but the contents of my home directory are never displayed.  In sub directories, I get the contents in maybe 5 or 10 seconds.
[20:16] <MrQuist> if i wanted to change it, i would have changed it.
[20:17] <MrQuist> I need an extra tunnel, from port 225, to port 25
[20:17] <MrQuist> or map port 225 to 25
[20:17] <MrQuist> or alias port 225 to 25
[20:17] <MrQuist> not change it
[20:17] <daftykins> MrQuist: i dn't think you understand my point
[20:17] <MrQuist> I don't think you understand mine.
[20:18] <daftykins> MrQuist: anyway, try the channel as mentioned - this is beyond the scope of this channel
[20:18] <MrQuist> My PC uses port 25 for SMTP, right? I send an email to my mailserver (in a datacenter) using SMTP over port 25. My ISP blocks port 25. So i want to change it locally to port 225
[20:18] <MrQuist> or use port 225 to get to port 25 in reality
[20:18] <Guido1> daftykins: seams that iit has both - GUI and command line
[20:19] <daftykins> MrQuist: ISPs have never blocked outgoing ports in my experience, but as i say this is off topic for here - #ubuntu-server and #networking
[20:19] <MrQuist> ....
[20:19] <MrQuist> dude
[20:19] <daftykins> Guido1: yep as i mentioned run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX"
[20:19] <MrQuist> https://static.ziggo.nl/images/OverigeBepalingenInternet_tcm14-28045.pdf
[20:20] <daftykins> unless that's in english it's of no use to me
[20:20] <MrQuist> They block port 25, ADP/TCP 135 to 139 and TCP 445.
[20:20] <MrQuist> I am sure they do.
[20:20] <MrQuist> I just dont want to use "smtp.ziggo.nl", i want my own smtp server.
[20:20] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: " and 2 not upgraded " what does 'apt-get upgrade' say is being held ?
[20:20] <daftykins> MrQuist: please ask in the relevant channels. i will not say this again
[20:21] <RainMan28> Bashing-om:
[20:21] <RainMan28> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:21] <RainMan28> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[20:21] <ChaseTrains> I want to spin down a secondary disk. Settings->disks->standby timeout setting-> 5 seconds .. I've hdparm -S1 /dev/.. as well. Doesn't matter if it's mounted or not, disk does not spin down. The only thing that works is to unmount it and run hdparm -Y (or -y) /dev/..   How doyou do this in ubuntu in a sensible fashion?
[20:21] <RainMan28> sorry, should have pasted that.
[20:21] <MrQuist> i did. Then also stop making remarks that make me reply
[20:21] <daftykins> oh my, how dare i assist
[20:21] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: That last is due to more than one instance of the package manager in action .. close all out and try the terminal again.
[20:21] <MrQuist> indeed
[20:22] <daftykins> MrQuist: feel free to request a refund
[20:22] <MrQuist> how dare you
[20:22] <MrQuist> puny human
[20:22] <MrQuist> pethatic mortal
[20:22] <Guest8170> I want to look at the contents of my home directory.  How?  Nautilus doesn't see its contents
[20:22] <MrQuist> i shall destroy earth
[20:23] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: I'm only doing this through terminal...everything via ssh access. Was upgrading via SSH, it asked me to compare two files before overwriting them and while I was doing that I accidentally terminated the upgrade session and it took me back to the cli before I did 'sudo do-release-upgrade -p'
[20:23] <trism> Guest8170: you mean the hidden files? ctrl+h
[20:23] <mr-tech-guy_> hello room
[20:24] <Bashing-om> Guest8170: Not any of the contents of home, or just some ? .. as in hideen '.' (dot) files ? -> ctl+h to see the hidden files .
[20:24] <Guest8170> trism: No, I start Nautilus and I get a spinning thing, but NONE of the contents of the /home/usr/ directoy
[20:24] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: Nothing
[20:24] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: Spinning circle
[20:24] <ChaseTrains> something is repeatedly activating my secondary harddisk.. not letting it sleep (spin down). How do I figure out what that is? It's an empty secondary disk.
[20:25] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: There are means to overcome a interrupted upgrade, if it failed to complete .. each case is individual // there are some 'general' thing to be done.
[20:25] <Guest8170> trism: Bashing-om: I can look into sub directories to the base directory with a little delay, but I get to see their contents
[20:25] <MrQuist> thank you daftykins :)
[20:26] <MrQuist> "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 225 -j REDIRECT --to-port 25" was the answer
[20:27] <daftykins> MrQuist: i apologise that we got our wires crossed there, i'm glad you found a solution :)
[20:27] <Guido1> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7868509/ en http://paste.ubuntu.com/7868543/
[20:28] <MrQuist> yeah sorry i know you get a lot of noobs here but its kinda annoying that someone tells you "no its not" while you're sure it is
[20:28] <MrQuist> kinda like the whole god/allah thing
[20:28] <MrQuist> i get mad about that
[20:28] <MrQuist> sorry for that witty remark
[20:28] <MrQuist> im just pissed off at my ISp
[20:28] <Guido1> daftykins: ( my conection to the chat just brok after sending the first link)
[20:28] <Guest8170> MrQuist: We could talk about god/allah, but not here, I think
[20:28] <Bashing-om> Guest8170: Don't know but we can poke at it .. what results from terminal command -> ls -la /home/<username> where 'username' is your login identification.
[20:28] <MrQuist> no, that #fiction
[20:28] <daftykins> Guido1: yes that disks controller has failed
[20:29] <mr-tech-guy_> I have a >>>/etc /sudoers: syntax error near line 24  sudo: parse error in  /etc/sudoers , near line 24
[20:29] <Guido1> daftykins: by the second test i had to reboot
[20:29] <mr-tech-guy_> any one seen this
[20:29] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: any idea what the first step is?
[20:29] <Guido1> daftykins: because the latop was not realy responding any more
[20:29] <MrQuist> mr-tech-guy_, check out line 24 or 23 in /etc/sudoers
[20:29] <MrQuist> AH you can't edit that one because you can't become root anymore
[20:30] <MrQuist> thats crappy
[20:30] <daftykins> MrQuist: no worries :) i know the frustration of problems
[20:30] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: So far, nothingh
[20:30] <daftykins> mr-tech-guy_: you'll probably need to boot into recovery mode to do something about that, or boot a live session (DVD/USB) and chroot.
[20:30] <Guido1> daftykins: so you suggest buying a new disk or can i fix it?
[20:30] <daftykins> Guido1: it's dead, backup the data from it and replace ASAP :)
[20:31] <daftykins> !recovery | mr-tech-guy_
[20:31] <Guido1> daftykins: thanks, i will do that. strange that the gui version says that everything is fine ...
[20:31] <Nessie75> k
[20:32] <mr-tech-guy_> I can get in to my system ok. I get this error any time i have to sudo for admin right
[20:32] <daftykins> Guido1: indeed, i've had this just recently with a friends girlfriends computer, i ended up helping with an SSD upgrade and switched to using the affected drive as a storage-only disk. running the OS from it was incredibly painful
[20:32] <Guido1> daftykins: on which part do you see that it is broken?
[20:32] <daftykins> mr-tech-guy_: so you can actually run things with sudo still?
[20:32] <mr-tech-guy_> no
[20:33] <mr-tech-guy_> i get this error time i use sudo
[20:33] <MrQuist> yeah someone dun goofed
[20:33] <daftykins> Guido1: ID's #1, #7, #195
[20:33] <MrQuist> you'll have to become root anyway
[20:33] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: -> sudo apt-get autoclean , sudo apt-get autoremove , sudo apt-get clean , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , sudo apt-get -f install , sudo dpkg --configure -a . Then we deal with the left overs ( grub ??).
[20:33] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: It hangs there.  Would it be more effective with sudo ... ?
[20:33] <daftykins> mr-tech-guy_: then you must boot recovery to fix
[20:33] <rawrmonster> I have a question. I have a laptop and a projector. When i open a video it opens in my main window and I drag it to my projector display. When i try to full screen the video I see the application make the projector screen go black like the video is about to play but the video appears full screen on the laptop screen. The projector is still on because if i unfull screen it, it goes right back to playing on the projector. Any idea how to fix this?
[20:34] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: the first command (sudo apt-get autoclean) gives the same command about the unable to get a lock. Should I reboot the machine first?
[20:34] <mr-tech-guy_> with the live CD I used to install it
[20:34] <ejcweb> I've had some filesystem problems with my server, and have been through a few recovery steps. Things seem better, but now when I run a sudo command I get "-bash: /usr/bin/sudo: cannot execute binary file". What does this mean?
[20:34] <daftykins> mr-tech-guy_: yes as per the linked guide above
[20:35] <daftykins> Guido1: did you say this was an external USB attached disk, or?
[20:35] <ejcweb> Also, when I run the command 'file' on sudo, I see "/usr/bin/sudo: setuid data". I was expecting some useful info instead of that.
[20:35] <Bashing-om> Guest8170: You mean there is no return from -> ls -la /home/yourname_here .. !! Wow, now we have a problem indeed.
[20:35] <mr-tech-guy_> cool let me give it a go
[20:35] <mr-tech-guy_> Thanks
[20:35] <Guido1> daftykins: yes, it's an external drive
[20:35] <rawrmonster> RainMan28: if there is not another program running for apt you can delete the lock file and it will allow it to run.
[20:36] <daftykins> Guido1: ah ok, in my friends case it was an internal drive so i tried a different SATA cable to start with... but i don't think that's too useful for your situation.
[20:36] <daftykins> (it didn't work anyway, it was definitely the drive)
[20:36] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: What I mean is that all that happens is that the cursor moves to the next line ... period.
[20:36] <Guido1> daftykins: used for films, fotos and music
[20:36] <RainMan28> rawrmonster: it was a failed upgrade in the sense that it asked me if I wanted to overwrite a file and when I hit 'D' to compare differences I accidentally CTRL-C'd out of the upgrade process (was doing it via SSH)
[20:36] <RainMan28> rawrmonster: so not sure if its still running or not, or if I should delete the lock file
[20:37] <maddawg2> hey all... i have an interesting thing... i have two physical 1.5TB drives that I want to extend across one another
[20:37] <Guido1> daftykins: right now the drive works just fine. only the sound was confusing me and that was not the normal tiking by failing
[20:37] <maddawg2> how can I combine two physical drives to show as one?
[20:37] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: But... if I type /home/username/Documents/ for example, I see the contents of that sub-directory
[20:37] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Back out of everything.. and yeah reboot to clear .. if still a problem will have to find out what is locking dpkg.
[20:37] <maddawg2> kinda like how in windows you can span two volumes
[20:37] <maddawg2> i was reading about LVM but i have no clue how to use it lol
[20:37] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: thank you sir
[20:38] <daftykins> Guido1: yeah it'll act normal, but basically every single read/write is causing the controller to work especially hard doing 'ECC', error checking and correction. so it's kind of making it scream to operate :) it'll be worked too hard and die properly eventually, so what i would do is copy all data off, then abandon it
[20:38] <rawrmonster> RainMan28: do something like ps aux | grep apt to see if apt is still running
[20:38] <maddawg2> wait a minute... wtf...
[20:38] <maddawg2> hmmm it's not even listing my drives anywhere wtf
[20:39] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: I do the same command ... /home/username/Documents/, It gives the contents immediately
[20:39] <Guido1> daftykins: okee, that sounds like my disk  ... I will do that. i thought about buying the seagate expention desktop
[20:40] <Guido1> daftykins: can I put externnal drives abov each other or should there some air in between?
[20:40] <delinquentme> is there  a way to disable the desktop as an option in the alt-tab swapper ?
[20:40] <daftykins> maddawg2: that would be a pretty messy idea, in some scenarios one disk failing would make you lose everything. instead, you could just mount the second as a folder inside the first to make data 'appear' to be all together
[20:40] <Bashing-om> Guest8170: pastenin the output of terminal command -> ls -la ~/ <-. Gives an idea of what is .
[20:40] <maddawg2> ok.. def need help now... i just added two hard disks using vmware (virtual hard disks) but i cant even see them on the machine
[20:40] <maddawg2> fdisk -l only shows my primary
[20:41] <maddawg2> daftykins i dont need stability
[20:41] <Jeffrey_f> can anyone answer an rsyslog question (yep, slightly off-topic  :P)
[20:41] <xangua> delinquentme: install unity tweak tool and disable it there
[20:41] <daftykins> Guido1: as it was your temperature of 47 is a bit higher than i'd like, i'd definitely give them as much space as possible :)
[20:41] <maddawg2> i cant do it that way due to the program i am using
[20:41] <daftykins> Jeffrey_f: have you tried #ubuntu-server yet? it may be more relevant
[20:41] <Guido1> daftykins: and how can i analyse it myself. iis there somwhere a guide?
[20:42] <maddawg2> daftykins, have you ever used vmware esxi?  i'm having an issue getting ubuntu to see the new drives i just added
[20:42] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: I rebooted the machine and can no longer access it via SSH
[20:42] <Jeffrey_f> daftykins: Thanks
[20:42] <daftykins> maddawg2: that is beyond the scope of this channel
[20:42] <maddawg2> they show as added in the manager but i cant find them anywhere in ubuntu
[20:42] <maddawg2> how is seeing drives beyond the scope of this channel?
[20:42] <maddawg2> this is a ubuntu channel
[20:42] <daftykins> because it's using vmware
[20:42] <daftykins> vmware != ubuntu
[20:43] <maddawg2> i  am using ubuntu
[20:43] <maddawg2> it's not a vmware issue
[20:43] <daftykins> maddawg2: let me give you a piece of advice, arguing will automatically put you in the ignore category.
[20:43] <maddawg2> ubuntu cant see extra drives
[20:43] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Then there is ( as feared) grub problems .. can you physically access the machine and have a liveDVD on hand to fix grub ???
[20:43] <maddawg2> WTF? I am asking a ubuntu related question it has very little to do with vmware
[20:43] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: So far, ZIP .  Nothing.  Period
[20:43] <daftykins> maddawg2: yes it's a vmware issue, not ubuntu. end of. go find a vmware channel
[20:43] <Ben64> maddawg2: ubuntu can see extra drives, there may be a problem with vmware, so you should look for vmware support
[20:43] <Guido1> daftykins: okee,, than i will make a smal shelfe for the drives. thank's a lot
[20:43] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: the machine has no dvd drive, only usb, but I can physically access it. Shit, I shouldn't have rebooted it.
[20:43] <daftykins> Guido1: no problem :)
[20:44] <maddawg2> ben64 no i just had it mounted they disappeared it's not a vmware problem i cant figure out how to get them mounted again
[20:44] <maddawg2> i think you guys misunderstand my question
[20:44] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: We are talking about the command "ls -la ~/" ?
[20:44] <Guido1> daftykins: saves me 900€ - recovery service ...
[20:44] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: As you were unable to release the lock on dpkg .. that is the next better thing to do ..
[20:44] <maddawg2> i was just mentioning I was using vmware so you know that i wasnt talking about an actualy physical drive... and besides the first time i did this I came here and got support for it
[20:45] <maddawg2> and it worked then
[20:45] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: ok should I create a USB installer of ubuntu 14.04 LTS now?
[20:45] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: BRB, Gotta walk the dog
[20:46] <Ben64> maddawg2: if you came in here with a physical drive that didn't show up, i'd say its a hardware problem and direct you to ##hardware ... since its not physical, its a vmware problem
[20:47] <maddawg2> ben64 first... it's not a hardware problem... I DONT KNOW THE COMMANDS TO MOUNT THE DRIVE OR EVEN WHERE TO FIND THE PHYSICAL LOCATION
[20:47] <maddawg2> thats the issue
[20:47] <Bashing-om> Guest8170: That 'ls -;a ~/' should have returned with lots of iles and directories in the output  - IF it exist .. ok what about -> ls -la /home <- . Should have at least 5 directories, and one of them as you.
[20:47] <maddawg2> if you dont want to help with the commands thats cool, but this is a ubuntu channel and it's a ubuntu command
[20:47] <daftykins> maddawg2: well now you explain it properly, the situation is a little different. try "sudo fdisk -l"
[20:48] <Ben64> maddawg2: you should try reading all before busting out the caps lock.
[20:48] <ChaseTrains> what is lost+found?
[20:48] <maddawg2> i did i get an output, but it seems to only show the one drive (the primary boot drive)
[20:48] <maddawg2> sda1
[20:48] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Yeah, on some means to access the installed system and reinstall grub ( if you can not boot locally, that is ) .
[20:48] <maddawg2> i'd assume there was an sdb now
[20:49] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: i can connect a monitor and keyboard/mouse to it
[20:49] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: i will do that now
[20:49] <daftykins> maddawg2: yeah, which leads back to being a vmware problem
[20:51]  * pwei
[20:51] <Guest5835> How do I bridge a connection with ubuntu 14.04 and a windows 8 machine?
[20:51] <Guest5835> between*
[20:53] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: OK, let's see what happens when you boot that box locally . - one step at a time - .
[20:55] <faugusztin_> Guest5835: simple answer - use network manager. complex answer - use ufw & nat
[20:56] <faugusztin_> Guest5835: https://jeremy.visser.name/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nm-nat.png
[20:56] <faugusztin_> Guest5835: you need to change it to that for the interface which will provide DHCP for local network
[20:56] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: yea sure, I plugged in monitor/kb/mouse and I get to the main login screen without issues. when I login, it takes a few minutes now to get to the desktop screen and the ethernet is no longer being detected so it isn't making a connection and there's some boxes that pop up about an internal error and to report the issue
[20:58] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: OH boy ! That is not good !  That is not good !
[21:01] <RainMan28> let me try Bashing-om
[21:02] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: connect: network is unreachable
[21:02] <maddawg> bleh ubuntu crashed on me... i figured it out daftykins wasnt a vmware issue
[21:03] <daftykins> oh? are you going to make me ask? :P
[21:03] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Small stps , OK is the network card detected ? -> sudo lshw -C network <- .
[21:04] <maddawg> had to tell it to rescan daftykins
[21:04] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: yes, detecting both the wired gigabit interface as well as the wireless one
[21:04] <daftykins> maddawg: do you mean you added drives but never rebooted the VM? definitely a vmware issue then.
[21:05] <maddawg> echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host#/scan
[21:05] <maddawg> no i did daftykins but it didnt pick it up at startup
[21:05] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Do we get an IP ? -> ifconfig eth0 (or whichever the network is,eth1) <- .
[21:05] <maddawg> i didnt add the drives with the machine on
[21:05] <maddawg> but also most OSes you can without shutting the guest down
[21:05] <daftykins> maddawg: that's still a virtualisation quirk then, but nevermind, solution's all that matters.
[21:06] <daftykins> let's move on
[21:07] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: getting an IPv6 but not an IPv4...i don't use ipv6 at all
[21:08] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Next then is to check -> cat etc/network/interfaces <- is the interface defined there ?
[21:09] <Guest40262> hello
[21:10] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: Sorry it took so long.  The ls -la /nome came back with 5 things, including me.  The strange part is that me is surrounded in green
[21:11] <pwei> how do I enable cloaking?  I've got 1. ssl/sasl enabled 2. registered username w/ nickserv 3. have private set w/ nickserv -- my whois still is showing ip though
[21:11] <RainMan28> sorry Bashing-om I had another internet drop out... last message i sent you was that the /etc/network/interfaces file only had auto lo and iface lo inet loopback
[21:11] <pwei> whoops wrong channel sorry
[21:12] <Bashing-om> Guest8170: np, ok .. in that output is 'me' owned and grouped as 'you' eg mine: drwxr-xr-x 25 sysop sysop  4096 Jul 26 13:40 sysop // where I am 'sysop' .
[21:12] <excelsiora> what's the best practice virtualbox to install on 14.04?
[21:12] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7868883/
[21:13] <ikonia> excelsiora: what do you mean ?
[21:13] <excelsiora> I want to go for the repo, but used to be the one straight from virtualbox had more stuff built in.
[21:13] <ikonia> excelsiora: so what's your question
[21:13] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: That'll explain better than I can
[21:13] <marklite> Any movie experts here?
[21:13] <excelsiora> which do I get? what are the tradeoffs?
[21:13] <excelsiora> currently for 14.04
[21:13] <ikonia> excelsiora: it's up to you to pick which one best suits your needs
[21:14] <excelsiora> well I don't know, because I don't know what the current state is.
[21:14] <excelsiora> Looks like my information is old.
[21:15] <ikonia> excelsiora: what are you not sure of
[21:15] <trap_exit> I have a problem with ssh being slow. I have already done UseDNS = no, GSSAPIKeyExchange = no, GSSAPIAuthentication = no. Now, when I do "ssh -v x@server", it hangs at "debug1: Entering interactive session." -- and just hangs there for a few seconds before giving me a shell. (By looking at the debug1 lot, I have already successfully authenticated via public key by now). What's cauing the delay
[21:16] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Ungood then .. ok .. are you doing networking as 'static' or DHCP ?? We must tell the system what interface to use .
[21:16] <excelsiora> I'm wondering difference between version in repos versus version from virtualbox
[21:16] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: static IP
[21:17] <ikonia> excelsiora: the versions and who supports them
[21:18] <faugusztin_> excelsiora: the ubuntu version is the open source version. the one from virtualbox is the one where you can install their extensions (if i am not mistaken)
[21:18] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: should I edit my /etc/network/interfaces file to set the static IP? I know how to do that part
[21:18] <excelsiora> you're currently mistaken
[21:18] <ikonia> excelsiora: how is he mistaken ?
[21:18] <Bashing-om> Guest8170: "drwx---rwx 112 you  you  105508864 Jul 26 22:11 you' That size is totally unexpected ! .. once more, what results -> ls -la /home/you <- ??
[21:19] <excelsiora> apt-cache policy virtualbox
[21:19] <ikonia> excelsiora: how is he mistaken ?
[21:19] <excelsiora> 4.3.10-dfsg-1
[21:19] <ikonia> excelsiora: how is he mistaken ?
[21:19] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: Nohing
[21:19] <excelsiora> version 4 is now unified, private stuff is an add on
[21:19] <ikonia> excelsiora: what are you talking about
[21:19] <excelsiora> I can get 4.3.14 from virtualbox.org
[21:20] <faugusztin_> excelsiora: ok... https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions
[21:20] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: OH Boy .. lemme give you an example what it should look like .. gimme a tic to pastebin it.
[21:20] <faugusztin_> excelsiora: in that case it is just how often and who makes the builds
[21:22] <excelsiora> read this: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions
[21:23] <ikonia> excelsiora: why do we need to read it ?
[21:23] <ikonia> excelsiora: you are the one saying "which should I use, I don't know the difference"
[21:23] <excelsiora> yeah, but your info is old.
[21:23] <excelsiora> no big deal
[21:23] <ikonia> my info is not old
[21:24] <ChaseTrains> should the discard option be set for ssd-disks in fstab?
[21:24] <Bashing-om> Guest8170: Sorry to say, I have no idea now as to how to access that folder. Others will have to advise, and I too will be in a learning mode.
[21:24] <excelsiora> ok, so do I install 4.3.10 from the repo or 4.3.14 from virtualbox.org? I'm looking over the changelog at the moment.
[21:25] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: thx anyway
[21:25] <ikonia> excelsiora: it's up to you
[21:25] <Guest8170> bye
[21:25] <excelsiora> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog
[21:25] <ikonia> excelsiora: you need to use which one suits your needs best
[21:25] <excelsiora> Looks like they'll be fairly much identical as far as I can tell.
[21:25] <excelsiora> aside from the number of bug-fixes between versions.
[21:26] <excelsiora> Why doesn't the repo have version 4.3.14?
[21:26] <ikonia> excelsiora: because it was built before it was released.
[21:27] <excelsiora> Can we upgrade the version in the repo?
[21:27] <ikonia> excelsiora: no
[21:28] <excelsiora> So that version will be frozen for 14.04 for all time?
[21:28] <ikonia> yes
[21:28] <excelsiora> ok
[21:30] <liminal> hello
[21:30] <liminal> im running ubuntu 14.04
[21:30] <excelsiora> So I think I'm going to go with virtualbox.org's version, ostensibly I'll be able to upgrade it. But it won't be supported by Ubuntu. Hmm... maybe I'll just stick with the Ubuntu version. Are there any downsides for the Ubuntu version? Can I install the add-ons like usb support?
[21:30] <liminal> network manager is not showing me any mobile broadband options
[21:31] <liminal> not sure why
[21:31] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Take a look : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7869013/ <- as an example only , sub yout correct IPs.
[21:32] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: was just about to message you. I set a static IP, brought up the interface via sudo ifup eth0, got ssh running again
[21:32] <Bashing-om> Guest22373: I truely would like to comprehend what and how .. I presently have not a clue .
[21:33] <saleem> I have a weird folder named as JpuNGnR8Tw in my home folder and if i try to right click on it to see its properties or size my system freezes , is this something normal or a ghost folder in my home folder only?
[21:33] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Outstanding .. makeing progress .. ping to <IP_ADDRESS> is now good ????
[21:33] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: then ran sudo dpkg --configure -a and its back to where it left off
[21:33] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: seems to be updating fine now
[21:33] <liminal> if you click on the network manager do you see an option to enable mobile broadband by default?
[21:34] <saleem> i hope somebody knows what is this folder about
[21:34] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: You ran all the apt-gets prior to the 'configure' ?? - required ! -
[21:35] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: no, I didn't. :(
[21:36] <codephobic> hi
[21:37] <ilya> hi
[21:37] <codephobic> anyone recommend a decent hardware channel on irc (for my MSI motherboard).
[21:37] <codephobic> I know this isn't the right place to ask, so apologies for having done so, but really out of ideas and so frustrated right now.
[21:37] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: just did all the clean commands and the autoremove ones, it removed a few things
[21:38] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: now restarted and no issues
[21:38] <saleem> ok found the answer it was made by bleachbit :P
[21:38] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: lsb_release -d  = Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS  :)
[21:39] <jasunto> how would i ssh to my ubuntu box with username thats an email since it already has @ in it?
[21:40] <jasunto> user<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:40] <jasunto> doesnt work
[21:40] <ikonia> you don't use one
[21:40] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Great, could be that we are now home free ! .. If the package manager is happy, update works, and system is stable => looking good .. what returns now from -> lsb_release -a <- .. and is /etc/apt/sources.list file reflecting 'trusty' ?
[21:40] <ikonia> usernames do not contain emails
[21:40] <jasunto> long story
[21:40] <jasunto> username has @ in it
[21:40] <ikonia> usernames do not contain emails
[21:40] <jasunto> i tried ticking and quoting jsut the email
[21:40] <jasunto> ' and "
[21:40] <ikonia> usernames do not contain emails
[21:41] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: yep, we're seeing trusty in both lsb_release -a and in the /etc/apt/sources.list file :)
[21:41] <jasunto> mine does
[21:42] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Then I trust this is a done deal .. and we can all go home and sleep well this night .
[21:42] <ikonia> jasunto: then it shouldn't
[21:42] <jasunto> fo sheezy
[21:42] <jasunto> has to
[21:42] <ikonia> jasunto: talk to your system adminstrator
[21:42] <ikonia> no, it shouldn't
[21:42] <jasunto> i am
[21:42] <ikonia> not "has to"
[21:42] <jasunto> lol
[21:42] <liminal> hello
[21:42] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: thank you so much. One more question for you -- if I only access this machine via SSH normally, should I be running ubuntu server on it vs desktop? When I plug a monitor into it I see that its just sitting at the main login screen all the time
[21:43] <liminal> clicky clicky network manager#
[21:43] <liminal> not hard
[21:43] <ikonia> liminal: no-one said network manager is hard
[21:44] <sfranken> Heey, I have a kernel related question, am I in the right channel?
[21:46] <liminal> ikonia don't want to get into a philosophical debate about the motivational reward of fulfilling this utility
[21:46] <ikonia> liminal: what?
[21:46] <liminal> click network manger > mobile broadband showing.
[21:46] <liminal> yes / no
[21:46] <ikonia> liminal: what's your actual question ?
[21:46] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: On a server install there is no GUI .. and installing a GUI is a security risk .
[21:47] <liminal> you have the option to enable wifi, enable networking and... maybe enable mobile broadband
[21:47] <liminal> however not sure if it requires a compatible device to be detected first
[21:47] <ikonia> liminal: right, so what's the question ?
[21:47] <ikonia> liminal: yes, you can't enable network on a device that doesn't exist
[21:49] <liminal> dang not listed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G
[21:50] <ChaseTrains> Hi. I've been googling my bottom off, and still can't understand why jbd2 (journaling) is writing to my empty secondary disk every 3-5 sec, or how to disable that (let the disk be untouched for hours since I don't want it to spin up). Ideas? One option is to just let it spin.. but it's noisy when the rest of the computer is pretty much free of mechanics.
[21:51] <ikonia> ChaseTrains: how are you checking the journam writes ?
[21:51] <sfranken> ChaseTrains: Isn't there a config for that in /etc/default by any chance?
[21:52] <ChaseTrains> ikonia: iotop . jbd2/sdb is writing to a disk that's mounted with noatime
[21:52] <ChaseTrains> sfranken: config for what?
[21:52] <ikonia> ChaseTrains: are you sure it's not reading ?
[21:53] <sfranken> ChaseTrains: your FS mounts/other FS related issues
[21:53] <sfranken> ChaseTrains: I'm a bit out of my league with JDB2, so regard my comments if they're stupid
[21:54] <ChaseTrains> ikonia: it's writing. 0 bytes read
[21:55] <ikonia> ChaseTrains: thats odd, that used to be a bug in the 2.6 kernel but it was fixed ages ago
[21:55] <ikonia> ChaseTrains: can you pastebin the output of the command "mount" please
[21:56] <MetaleerIsGay> METALEER IS GAY GUYS
[21:56] <MetaleerIsGay> :D
[21:56] <sfranken> ikonia sorry to barge in between like this, but would you happen to know if there are downsides to setting MODULES=dep in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/modules followed by rebuilding your initramFS (update-initramfs -u) ?
[21:56] <ChaseTrains>  /dev/sdb1 on /mnt/stuff type ext4 (rw) .. hmm, should be noatime.. brb, reboot
[21:57] <ikonia> sfranken: minor performane hit
[21:57] <ikonia> I doubt it's anything you'd see with the naked yee
[21:57] <ikonia> eye
[21:57] <sfranken> ChaseTrains: you mean rw,noatime, roght?
[21:58] <sfranken> ikonia: ah, I figured. So modules=dep doesn't do much, besides make my initrd.img ~2 megs instead of 20
[21:58] <ikonia> sfranken: pretty much
[21:58] <k4v1k> Hello All!
[21:58] <sfranken> ikonia: Thanks for the info
[22:01] <sfranken> Gotta go, Goodnight
[22:01] <ChaseTrains> sfranken: yeah.. that's the mode right now. But it appears that the jdb2 writing is a bug that hasn't been patched yet (since 2010)
[22:02] <ikonia> it was patched
[22:02] <iceburnt> hi friends, could you tell me a solution, I've installed gnome subtitle. but when I will sync the subtitle and video. the error happened. it says that it couldnot open the file "You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins." "GStreamer encountered a general stream error.". could you tell me how to solve these?
[22:08] <gaymuch> how do i get a girlfriend?
[22:08] <ikonia> by not asking in here
[22:08] <ikonia> gaymuch: this channel is for ubuntu discussion - please don't deviate from that topic
[22:09] <gaymuch> how do i get a girlfriend that is using ubuntu?
[22:11] <gaymuch> hey
[22:13] <joseluis64> Hello! how may I compile the virtualbox driver with a custom kernel?
[22:13] <ikonia> if you're running a custom kernel - it's up to you/the person who built the kernel to support you
[22:14] <arcsky> hello i got some issue, i just did apt-get install php5 apache2 and restarted apache2. but php didnt work. do i need to add a line in apach2 config or so?
[22:14] <ikonia> arcsky: define "didn't work"
[22:14] <joseluis64> but is the Ubuntu package...
[22:14] <ikonia> joseluis64: then it's not a custom kernel
[22:14] <joseluis64> yes, is a custom kernel
[22:15] <iceburnt> hi friends, could you tell me a solution, I've installed gnome subtitle. but when I will sync the subtitle and video. the error happened. it says that it couldnot open the file "You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins." "GStreamer encountered a general stream error.". could you tell me how to solve these?
[22:15] <ikonia> joseluis64: then it's up to you / the person who made your custom kernel to support you
[22:15] <joseluis64> no matter if use Ubuntu virtualbox
[22:15] <delinquentme> leaving computer on: can someone stick a USB into my laptop and have some piece of code auto execute ... even if my screen is locked??
[22:16] <joseluis64> ?
[22:16] <arcsky> ikonia: i dont see any with my simple test php script. <php? echo info(); ?>
[22:16] <ikonia> joseluis64: correct
[22:16] <ikonia> arcsky: did you install the php apache module
[22:16] <joseluis64> I feel like a ball, thank you.
[22:17] <arcsky> ikonia: libapache2-mod-php5 that one?
[22:17] <arcsky> is installed
[22:17] <ikonia> arcsky: looks right
[22:17] <arcsky> ikonia: Module php5 already enabled
[22:18] <ikonia> arcsky: what does the apache error log show
[22:18] <ikonia> arcsky: how are you trying to access the page
[22:19] <maddawg> hmm intersting.. having a permissions problem with a folder on my ubuntu machine
[22:19] <killmaker> can ubuntu go on a ipad
[22:19] <maddawg> i'm trying to make it writeable by everyone
[22:19] <ikonia> killmaker: no
[22:19] <maddawg> including deleting files
[22:19] <maddawg> for some reason owner was set to root and only root could write and delete from it but i cant figure out how to change it so everyone can
[22:19] <maddawg> i tried to do it through the GUI but for some reason the "File access" keeps showing as blank
[22:20] <maddawg> is there  a way to make it so all users can read and write to it?
[22:20] <arcsky> ikonia: i found the issue.. do the php freally needs to be .php ? i want it as index.html
[22:20] <ikonia> arcsky: there we go, well done
[22:21] <arcsky> ikonia: if i rename it to index.html i doesnt work
[22:21] <Bashing-om> maddawg: How about -> sudo chmod 777 <file_name> < - .
[22:21] <Beldar> killmaker, No ubuntu wiki's on ipad there are for macs you might look at this google search, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=ubuntu+ipad&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=sCnUU5nyOIzroASljoLgCg
[22:21] <maddawg> Bashing-om, it's a folder tho
[22:21] <ikonia> arcsky: correct as it doesn't know to associate that with the php module
[22:22] <maddawg> /mnt/media
[22:22] <ikonia> maddawg: what file system is on it
[22:22] <maddawg> it's an LVM
[22:22] <ikonia> it still has a file system on it
[22:22] <maddawg> ext4
[22:23] <Jeffrey_f> I have rsyslog server running, but I want to capture previous data.  Other than messed up logs, what would be the impact of copying older logs into the current logs so the logging server can get the older data?
[22:23] <ikonia> and who owns the files ?
[22:23] <arcsky> ikonia: how can i solve that?
[22:23] <maddawg> well there is nothing in it ikonia i'm trying to create stuff
[22:23] <maddawg> the directory is owned by root
[22:23] <maddawg> i changed it to me but now i can write but cant delete
[22:24] <ikonia> maddawg: pastebin the output of "ls -la" in the root of the directory please.
[22:25] <maddawg> !pastebin
[22:26] <maddawg> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7869393/
[22:27] <ikonia> maddawg: seems od
[22:27] <ikonia> odd
[22:27] <maddawg> no kidding
[22:27] <maddawg> lol
[22:28] <Ozera||> I'm using chrome on ubunutu 12.04. I can't zoom in on images via chrome. Anyone know how to fix this?
[22:28] <ikonia> maddawg: so you are currently the user "jake" correct ?
[22:28] <maddawg> yep
[22:28] <ikonia> maddawg: and you're trying ot create content in /mnt or /mnt/media
[22:28] <maddawg> interesting it deletes if i drag it to the trash
[22:29] <maddawg> but not if i right click on it and select move to trash
[22:29] <maddawg> that is greyed out
[22:29] <BhAwN> ikonia: nice one.... you were "calm" right?
[22:29] <maddawg> but as long as i can actually delete
[22:29] <ikonia> BhAwN: please don't start up in here
[22:29] <maddawg> it works with rm too so thats good
[22:29] <ikonia> maddawg: which one are you working in /mnt or /mnt/media
[22:30] <maddawg> /mnt/media
[22:30] <ikonia> maddawg: so if you do "touch /mnt/media/test" does test get created and with what permissions ?
[22:30] <maddawg> let me check
[22:31] <maddawg> ikonia, -rw-rw-r-- 1 jake jake    0 Jul 26 18:30 test
[22:31] <ikonia> maddawg: and you can delete it .....?
[22:31] <ikonia> (rm it
[22:31] <ikonia> )
[22:32] <maddawg> yes that works.. i mentioned befoer that works.. guess its just the right click option that doesnt
[22:32] <maddawg> strange tho
[22:32] <maddawg> it's ok as long as it can be deleted using rm
[22:32] <ikonia> maddawg: possible bug with either the file manager, or the .trash directory has screwed up permissions
[22:32] <maddawg> ikonia have you ever used an LVM type partition on ubuntu?
[22:32] <ikonia> maddawg: any times
[22:33] <maddawg> i recently set that up and had it span two volumes but when i go to view the size it still says 1.5TB
[22:33] <maddawg> it should be 3 cuz i combined two
[22:33] <ikonia> maddawg: sorry - not to be rude but "volumes" can mean anything, you've got a volume group and a logical volume, which one are you talking about
[22:34] <maddawg> ... i think volume group maybe
[22:34] <maddawg> lol
[22:34] <Mojtaba> Hi, I have script and I want to run some part of it, if it is not copied in home directory. (The script is going to cooy itself to home directory.) hence that part of the code should run once.
[22:34] <Mojtaba> How can I compare some part of strings with each other?
[22:34] <ikonia> maddawg: ok, so how are you measuring the size
[22:34] <maddawg> yes
[22:34] <maddawg> i used vgdisplay and i got this
[22:34] <maddawg> i will paste it
[22:34] <maddawg> too long
[22:34] <ikonia> maddawg: use a pastebin
[22:34] <ikonia> (please)
[22:35] <maddawg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7869444/
[22:35] <ikonia> maddawg: it's 4tb
[22:35] <maddawg> it says Alloc PE / Size       783810 / 2.99 TiB
[22:35] <ikonia> oops
[22:35] <ikonia> 3tb
[22:36] <Beldar> Ozera||, ctrl and the mouse wheel zooms in and out.
[22:36] <maddawg> but then below it in free space it says 10.98GB
[22:36] <maddawg> why?
[22:36] <maddawg> it shouild be empty
[22:36] <maddawg> there is nothing on the drive
[22:36] <ikonia> maddawg: because you have allocated it to logical volumes
[22:36] <maddawg> not sure what that means
[22:36] <ikonia> maddawg: vg's don't hold data - they hole physical extents, you've allocated them to logical volumes, which are "empty"
[22:36] <maddawg> sorry
[22:36] <ikonia> maddawg: think of it as a disk
[22:37] <maddawg> ok...
[22:37] <maddawg> but how come df -h shows it at 1.5TB free and so does the file manager
[22:37] <ikonia> maddawg: if you have a 3TB disk and you make 1x3TB partition, the disk is "empty" but there is no free space
[22:37] <gaymuch> i have a problem: after watching youtube for a few hours in html5 in Chromium, chromium will start freezing up and if i dont restart it fast enough it will completely hang my system without the ability to use it anyhow for 10-30 minutes. I have 14.04 and 4 gb memory
[22:37] <ikonia> maddawg: so in this case it's a 3TB disk, and you've allocated a 2.99TB partition leaving 10GB of unallocated space (hence "free")
[22:37] <maddawg> oh i gotcha i think
[22:38] <ikonia> maddawg: volume groups are nothing to do with the filesystem/how much data you have
[22:38] <gaymuch> and during that my hard drive will be working non-stop
[22:38] <maddawg> lol... now is there a reason why the filemanager doesnt see it as 3TB?
[22:38] <ikonia> maddawg: so try not to think of it like that
[22:38] <maddawg> ok
[22:38] <maddawg> i gotcha
[22:38] <Beldar> Ozera||, You can also ctrl ahnd hit the + or - to zoom and go back in chrome.
[22:38] <ikonia> maddawg: can you pastebin the output of "lvdisplay" please
[22:38] <ikonia> maddawg: lets see what you've got
[22:38] <maddawg> so i should be able to copy 3TB of stuff to it despite the fact that the filemanager says 1.5TB
[22:38] <maddawg> ok
[22:39] <ikonia> maddawg: lets see what you've got before making an assumption
[22:39] <maddawg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7869462/
[22:39] <maddawg> says volume size 2.99TB
[22:39] <maddawg> so that's good
[22:39] <ikonia> maddawg: ok, so you've extended the volume, but I'm going to guess you've not extened the file system on the volume
[22:39] <maddawg> oh
[22:40] <ikonia> maddawg: so the "disk" size has changed, but the file system doesn't know it's changed
[22:40] <ikonia> maddawg: get it ?
[22:40] <maddawg> i see
[22:40] <maddawg> ok
[22:40] <maddawg> http://askubuntu.com/questions/7002/how-to-set-up-multiple-hard-drives-as-one-volume
[22:40] <maddawg> i used those instructions when i did it
[22:40] <ricksebak> I'm on 12.04 now. When I do "sudo do-release-upgrade" it still tells me that no new release is available. What's the deal?
[22:40] <Etale> Hi all. I'm having some trouble with Ubuntu installation. I have a brand new Lenovo T440p with Windows 8. I'm trying to install Ubuntu so that it will dual boot. I've installed Ubuntu Secure Remix 13.04, but now when I boot I always get just windows 8, and not the grub splash screen...
[22:40] <ikonia> maddawg: give me a moment
[22:41] <maddawg> ikonia is extending the file system something i should do?
[22:41] <roeijac> Etale check your bios settings
[22:41] <Etale> roeijac, I checked "both" for the question of whether doing UEFI or Legacy.
[22:41] <ikonia> maddawg: looks like you've missed a step
[22:41] <Etale> If I just do legacy it won't boot at all.
[22:41] <maddawg> oh noes
[22:41] <ikonia> maddawg: sudo e2fsck -f /dev/media/volume  then sudo resize2fs /dev/media/volume
[22:41] <Beldar> Etale, 13.04 is end of life, and I'm not sure the secure remix is even supported here when not eol.
[22:41] <maddawg> oh i did that step
[22:42] <ikonia> maddawg: must have just missed it
[22:42] <ikonia> maddawg: don't forget don't run fsck while it's mounted
[22:42] <Etale> Beldar, the 14.04 livecd wouldn't boot at all. It would just be stuck on the Ubuntu logo screen...
[22:42] <ikonia> maddawg: (you don't need to fsck - this can be done online, but as I don't know what you've done %100 lets be safe)
[22:42] <maddawg> ikonia ok i will unmount it and try those commands again
[22:42] <df3d2> How do I figure out the "command line name" of a gui app? I want to run an app with sudo permissions but I'm not sure what the command for it is
[22:43] <ikonia> maddawg: only those 2 - nothing else
[22:43] <Beldar> Etale, We can only support what is under support, not eol's, the 14.04 issue is one we can.
[22:43] <Beldar> Etale, 12.04 is also supported
[22:43] <roeijac> Hey guys, what's the most popular workspace for developing with C? In Ubuntu of course
[22:43] <tr33m4n> maddawg: you probably have already, but have you tried restarting? Sometimes the kernel needs a reboot to register disk changes
[22:44] <PocketDog> df3d2, just run 'top' in terminal, that'll tell you the process
[22:44] <Etale> Presumably, the right thing to do is to run "boot-repair" from the livecd, but it says that if it's not connected to the internet then my system may become unbootable. But I can't connect to the internet from the livecd for some reason...
[22:44] <df3d2> PocketDog: Yeah I don't see it..
[22:44] <Etale> Beldar, presumably the 14.04 issue has something to do with this post:  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/246834
[22:44] <Beldar> Etale, 13.04 besides not being supported is not in the main ubuntu repos.
[22:44] <df3d2> it's not in any lists
[22:44] <Etale> I'm not sure Thinkpad T440p plays nicely with 14.04...
[22:45] <Mojtaba> I want to run some part of the script, if the script is not in the home directory. Do you know how should I do that?
[22:45] <maddawg> ikonia says device is busy but nothing is using it :-\
[22:45] <ikonia> maddawg: fuser -fuc /mnt/media
[22:45] <ikonia> maddawg: $10 says it's your shell
[22:45] <Etale> Beldar, that's terrible! So maybe I should try 12.04 instead? That makes not intuitive sense, though. Why would 12.04 be better supported than 13.04?
[22:46] <PocketDog> df3d2, have you tried htop? it's a more detailed top
[22:46] <maddawg> ikonia, /mnt/media:           2577c(jake)
[22:46] <ikonia> ps -ef | Grep 2577
[22:46] <tr33m4n> maddawg: you have tried restarting, yes?
[22:46] <ikonia> maddawg: $10 - it's your shell
[22:46] <df3d2> PocketDog: yes I see nothing relevant also tried using ps aux | grep "prog name"
[22:46] <Beldar> Etale, There is a support time for all releases, 12.04 is a long term 5 years support same for 14.04 the one between have shorter support times is all.
[22:47] <maddawg> lol ikonia yep
[22:47] <ikonia> maddawg: cd /
[22:47] <maddawg> good thing i didnt shake on it
[22:47] <maddawg> lol got it
[22:47] <ikonia> maddawg: common error
[22:47] <Etale> I see. So maybe I'll try installing 12.04, then. Do you guys have any suggestions about this terrible UEFI stuff? I'm really annoyed at how much trouble it's causing.
[22:48] <df3d2> PocketDog: the first answer here worked: http://superuser.com/questions/479888/how-to-find-out-the-name-and-path-of-a-running-gui-application-on-linux
[22:48] <df3d2> usb-creator-gtk
[22:48] <Beldar> Etale, Your issues are with that manufacturers and that computer specifically, not all uefi, just a heads up is all .;)
[22:48] <maddawg> ikonia running those commands now... good thing they were in my history
[22:49] <maddawg> Ikonia: getting the same thing as before... "Resizing the filesystem on /dev/media/volume to 802621440 (4k) blocks.
[22:49] <maddawg> so i guess it's working
[22:49] <ikonia> maddawg: looks like it
[22:49] <maddawg> it did that before tho
[22:50] <maddawg> i remember i went away for lke 10 minutes while it finished lol
[22:50] <Beldar> Etale, 12.04 has 3 more years of support so we can help you there if needed, and we are all bummed when things don't work that is why I'm here anyway to help if I can. ;)
[22:52]  * maddawg whistles a tune
[22:52] <Etale> Beldar, I see that some people have, and I quote (because I have no technical understanding of this) "scrapped the whole UEFI boot for MBR boot". Is that a thing that it would make sense for me to do?
[22:52] <maddawg> linux should give you elevator music when you have to wait this long for commands to finish lol
[22:52] <maddawg> jk
[22:53] <df3d2> Usb-creator-gtk doesn't seem to work, "make startup disk" is greyed out and it throws some error after a bit when i tell it to "erase disk"
[22:53] <df3d2> the disk is fine however. I can format it etc w/ gparted
[22:53] <maddawg> df3d2, u running it as root?
[22:53] <Beldar> Etale, Sure however all we see are problems on the net and here, not all the other success, you have to use some critical thought, not confirmation bias.
[22:53] <df3d2> maddawg: yep
[22:53] <maddawg> ok.. thats as far as i can help
[22:54] <maddawg> lol
[22:54] <maddawg> ikonia, Resizing the filesystem on /dev/media/volume to 802621440 (4k) blocks.
[22:54] <df3d2> i tried unetbootin on windows and it said everything worked
[22:54] <maddawg> oops
[22:54] <df3d2> but I keep getting not a valid boot device
[22:54] <df3d2> so ill try unetbootin on linux
[22:54] <maddawg> ikonia, The filesystem on /dev/media/volume is now 802621440 blocks long.
[22:54] <df3d2> OOOh I should check the md5 of the iso I guess
[22:54] <maddawg> that didnt show the last time lol
[22:54] <ikonia> maddawg: mount it up
[22:55] <jeffreylevesque> where can i download grub2 iso file?
[22:55] <maddawg> k mounted ikonia
[22:55] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: it's not an iso file
[22:55] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, Can you address the issue, there is no grub 2 iso file.
[22:55] <ikonia> maddawg: and is the size correct....
[22:55] <maddawg> yep
[22:55] <jeffreylevesque> how can install grub2 on my usb from a mac
[22:55] <ikonia> job done
[22:55] <maddawg> looks like it is now
[22:56] <maddawg> Thanks :-)
[22:56] <PocketDog> df3d2, thanks for that
[22:56] <maddawg> i'm hoping it's big enough lol
[22:56] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, Besides this what is the end goal?
[22:56] <maddawg> stupid cloud drive wont tell me how large my folder is that i want to download lol
[22:56] <jeffreylevesque> to boot up my ubuntu server
[22:56] <df3d2> PocketDog: for what
[22:56] <jeffreylevesque> from my usb
[22:56] <PocketDog> df3d2, for the link
[22:57] <df3d2> I didn't link anything
[22:57] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, Do you want it that way, and use nicks to preface answer to another plaes.
[22:57] <Beldar> please*
[22:57] <Bashing-om> jeffreylevesque: Boot a ubuntu liveDVD, and from the liveDVD install grub onto the USB device.
[22:57] <maddawg> hell yea... it's downloading at 50MB/s
[22:57] <jeffreylevesque> is that the only way?
[22:57] <maddawg> hehehe
[22:58] <df3d2> Okay So the MD5 of my download matches
[22:58] <maddawg> man i love having a gigabit
[22:58] <df3d2> but I can't get this usb to boot
[22:58] <Beldar> !who | jeffreylevesque
[22:58] <jeffreylevesque> Bashing-om: can i download http://sourceforge.net/projects/kcm-grub2/ onto my USB?
[22:58] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: is this to boot ubuntu /
[22:59] <jeffreylevesque> ya
[22:59] <Bashing-om> jeffreylevesque: Look'n .
[22:59] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: then use an ubuntu disk to use the same version of grub that it expects
[22:59] <maddawg> thanks ikonia for all your help... looks like i got a long night of downloading my media
[22:59] <maddawg> ikonia is it possible to extend an LVM even more without erasing it
[22:59] <maddawg> ?
[23:00] <maddawg> i can keep adding volumes to it right?
[23:00] <ikonia> maddawg: totally
[23:00] <maddawg> sweet
[23:00] <ikonia> maddawg: zero issue at all
[23:00] <maddawg> ovh is downloading at 65MB/s i'm so excited
[23:00] <maddawg> i didnt think my cloud provider wuld upload that fast
[23:01] <maddawg> took me like 4 days to upload everything to it to begin with
[23:01] <Bashing-om> jeffreylevesque: Nope, that is not the bootloader, but a means to 'reconfigure' what is. // You can boot that server from a liveUSB of ubuntu ( boot from 1st hard drive option) .
[23:01] <Etale> Let me ask you guys a general question that may come up in the near future. Let's say I have UEFI and a windows 8, as well as an Ubuntu installation, but I never get a grub splash menu in the beginning, and it only boots to Windows. Is there a livecd I can put in so that it will give me the option to boot into the Ubuntu that I already have installed on my computer?
[23:01] <df3d2> Okay so I guess my problem was with Unetbootin on Windows
[23:02] <df3d2> the linux version worked fine and i'm booting Lubuntu install on the laptop.
[23:02] <df3d2> still not sure why Startup Disk Creator on linux failed to work
[23:06] <Etale> I'm downloading Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS (Precise Pangolin). Is that supported?
[23:06] <df3d2> yea
[23:06] <df3d2> since it is LTS
[23:06] <Etale> Should I get 12.10 intead?
[23:06] <Etale> *instead
[23:07] <Nimble> I don't think 12.10 is supported anymore, Etale
[23:07] <Etale> Okay.
[23:07] <Beldar> Etale, This is not an unusual problem and there are work around's to it so rather than just info it has to be dealt with in real time is all.
[23:07] <Nimble> iirc 12.04 and 14.04 are the currently supported versions
[23:07] <Etale> Beldar, okay. I'll probably have this problem in about 40 minutes.
[23:08] <Muchachao> Hi guys, I'm trying to install a ./configure file. The error I get is "No package 'xinerama' found". I searched the package "xinerama" in apt-get, but I could not find the package. Somebody knows which package I should install to get xinerama?
[23:09] <Beldar> Etale, Another heads up, uefi is not really known by many here so be prepared to have some wait, however there are some user at the ubuntu forums as well, all this will take some patience and or research on you part is all.
[23:09] <Beldar> users*
[23:10] <iamwhoiam> not so much an ubuntu question but iwill try: i am trying to install tor, and when i ask for the public key with gpg --keyserver etc, i get timeout. I think that is because of firewall/port issues. Does anybody know how to deal with this?
[23:10] <daftykins> Etale: in your example, is this computer a custom build or a prebuilt laptop?
[23:10] <df3d2> iamwhoiam: find out what ports it rquires and open them ?
[23:13] <iamwhoiam> df3d2: in tor installing manual/guide they dont mention anything about ports..the timeout error is what made think about the firewall (behind a uni network)
[23:13] <Beldar> daftykins, Etale has a  brand new Lenovo T440p with Windows 8. ;)
[23:13] <daftykins> ooh my my
[23:13] <daftykins> Beldar: ty sir
[23:13] <knuu> Hello
[23:13] <daftykins> hi
[23:13] <knuu> Any xubuntu users on here?
[23:13] <Beldar> daftykins, My pleasure we want it to work.
[23:14] <knuu> I installed it on my Samsung q1 and the bluetooth and mouse stopped working
[23:14] <knuu> It worked before though.
[23:14] <Bashing-om> Muchachao: IF you know what you are doing : http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libxcb-xinerama0 ...
[23:14] <knuu> Any ideas?
[23:15] <daftykins> knuu: what do you mean by before? what was before xubuntu?
[23:15] <knuu> I mean underXUbuntu
[23:15] <knuu> then it stopped working
[23:15] <knuu> Only thing that could be a problem is I installed java.
[23:16] <knuu> But I don't think that would be a problem
[23:16] <knuu> Prior I had XP
[23:16] <eeee> Etale: if you don't get the grub menu it's probably due to a hard-coded bios, you can rename the .efi files to trick it into loading grub.
[23:17] <Etale> eeee, how?
[23:17] <Etale> daftykins, right. I have a Lenovo T440p. I customized to have some ridiculous properties like a 16GB RAM.
[23:18] <eeee> Etale: well, first try to get to the boot options during start up, you should see something akin to OS manager & ubuntu below it
[23:18] <daftykins> Etale: :D
[23:19] <daftykins> Etale: i was going to say something along the lines of what eeee is suggesting... although mine would have been a tad simpler
[23:19] <Etale> eeee, I don't... When I click on F12 I see some things like a "Windows boot" and a "CD ROM", etc. None of them lead to Ubuntu...
[23:20] <daftykins> Etale: yeah you want to change 'Windows Boot Manager' to be the name of the hard disk / SSD
[23:20] <Etale> SSD
[23:20] <daftykins> Etale: modern Lenovos are starting to come with separate buttons that let you gain access to the EFI setup, the one-time boot menu won't be enough
[23:20] <eeee> Etale: did you install the main OS yet? (ubuntu?)
[23:20] <Etale> But anyway, none of them lead to Ubuntu...
[23:21] <eeee> Etale: yes as daftykins is suggesting, there should be a key to load the boot options menu, OS manager, ubuntu & boot from EFI file,
[23:21] <daftykins> eeee: do you see what i mean, also? do you think it's worth a try before going so far as to editing the EFI partition contents?
[23:21] <Etale> daftykins, right. There is. eeee , I did. But I installed a "Ubuntu 13.04 secure remix". I'm going to try to install 12.04 instead because it's supported, though 13.04 is not.
[23:21] <eeee> daftykins: definitely.
[23:21] <Muchachao> Bashing-om, thank you for reply. I installed the package that you suggested, but I still get the error. Should I install the sub-packages?
[23:22] <Etale> eeee, boot options menu, huh? Wait, let me try this.
[23:22] <daftykins> Etale: sounds like a good plan, for how long it may take though, would you like to try and just see if this will boot before starting again?
[23:22] <Etale> Oh, no, I can't.
[23:22] <Etale> I'm still download 12.04. I'll have to try it later.
[23:22] <daftykins> oh, are you using the same machine to download 12.04?
[23:22] <Etale> daftykins, that would make sense. I'll just wait for the download to finish first.
[23:22] <Etale> daftykins, yeah.
[23:23] <daftykins> Etale: ok :) do you have a camera to take pictures of the EFI setup screens at all?
[23:23] <Etale> I'll let you know when it finishes.
[23:23] <Bashing-om> Muchachao: I did say "IF" .. OK, what is the goal here from the beginning, that is the cause now of the problem ?
[23:23] <Etale> Sure...
[23:23] <neruda> hi, Im having a problem with 14.04 amd64 server, when i use it as a vm, changes dont persist between reboots
[23:23] <daftykins> Etale: if once your download completes you could take pictures of each screen then come back and share them with us, we might be able to point you right
[23:23] <Etale> daftykins, okay.
[23:24] <Etale> (How should I share them?)
[23:24] <daftykins> Etale: there are some good free image sharing sites such as imgur.com , tinypic.com ... many more
[23:24] <Muchachao> Bashing-om, the goal is to install the https://davedavenport.github.io/rofi/
[23:24] <Bashing-om> Muchachao: Look'n .
[23:27] <knuu> Does Java work well on Xubuntu or no really?
[23:27] <knuu> not
[23:28] <maddawg> yikes 133MB of ram for firefox... i remember when entire OSes were that
[23:28] <Etale> Okay, download complete. I'm restarting.
[23:28] <knuu> nice
[23:29] <knuu> Any Xubuntu users
[23:29] <knuu> ?
[23:29] <Bashing-om> Muchachao: "Rofi requires the following tools and libraries to be installed:" libx11, libxinerama, libxdg-basedir, libxft . Did you 'dpkg' them to see if installed, and those not installed, 'apt-get' them ?
[23:30] <Muchachao> Bashing-om, check'n .
[23:31] <Etale> daftykins, eeee , http://i58.tinypic.com/315bn9h.jpg
[23:31] <liquidFury> hi all
[23:31] <Bashing-om> Muchachao: That would be -> dpkg -l <name> <- .
[23:33] <eeee> Etale: can you take a picture of the Start-up menu?
[23:34] <Etale> http://i57.tinypic.com/w6sio8.jpg
[23:34] <TeraJL> hi there i'm using kubuntu and i have tried to resize my Data disk(sdb), i've set it to resize and Started (using KDE partition manager) but the kde partiton manager froze (i left it working almost one day), and i've forced the pc to restart... but now i can't see my disk, whats the best way to be (the most) sure to recover?
[23:34] <eeee> Also, try this, when the laptop boots, press Esc, do you get a menu? Anything like Boot options?
[23:34] <Jeffrey_f> TeraJL: Are you trying to do that while logged in??
[23:35] <crazybotsmoker> F12 durring boot
[23:35] <Etale> eeee, when I click on "boot" in the "startup" menu I get this: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rz3tsg&s=8#.U9Q7Ex-Uc_A
[23:35] <Beldar> TeraJL, Are you using standard partitions?
[23:35] <Beldar> or were
[23:35] <TeraJL> Jeffrey_f: yes but i have 2 disks, and the disk i was resize was Data one(only files and it is usually unmounted)
[23:35] <eeee> Etale: try crazybotsmoker's suggestion.
[23:35] <crazybotsmoker> press F12 durring boot
[23:35] <Etale> Okay, am trying.
[23:36] <Etale> I'll upload a pick. Stand by.
[23:36] <TeraJL> Beldar: i was using only one may partition ( ext4 i think i've set it to resize and create a new partition ext4)
[23:36] <TeraJL> *main
[23:36] <svetlana> (reposted from #xorg) "setxkbmap -model pc101 -layout us,ru -option grp:lctrl_lshift_toggle" - this is ok. I tried adding it to /etc/keyboard and rebooting, but it does not pick it up there.  F12 will not help here
[23:39] <Etale> Etale, he means.
[23:39] <Beldar> !who | crazybotsmoker
[23:39] <crazybotsmoker> disable secure boot
[23:39] <eeee> Etale: pick ATA HDD0
[23:39] <Etale> I did.
[23:39] <daftykins> Etale: back in this image, http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rz3tsg&s=8#.U9Q7eWPvDDd please change item #5 to be item #1
[23:39] <liquidFury> daftykins: and enable legacy boot
[23:39] <daftykins> liquidFury: no legacy boot has nothing to do with this
[23:39] <liquidFury> daftykins: if available
[23:39] <daftykins> liquidFury: i am the helper not the helpee, please do not get confused
[23:39] <liquidFury> daftykins: what is the problem
[23:39] <Beldar> mmmmm Beldar loves a goo uefi pile on.
[23:39] <Beldar> good*
[23:40] <Etale> daftykins, okay, I'll try.
[23:40] <TeraJL> Beldar: i did not understood :/ sorry... what i did was KDE partition manager, decreased the disk space (from the right), clicked on the unallocated and created a new partition, and clicked "apply" but it crashed.. i can still see the sdb1 and unallocated space using the partition manager and the sdb1 as unkown but i'm afraid of making it worst
[23:40] <daftykins> Beldar: :D
[23:40] <Etale> liquidFury, if I change to legacy, even Windows doesn't load.
[23:40] <eeee> Etale: as daftykins suggests, switch the HDD0 to the top of the list.
[23:40] <daftykins> i didn't even realise LiteON did SSDs!
[23:40] <Muchachao> Bashing-om, Bingo. Installed the required packages, no xinerama erorrs anymore. Thank you for your help sir.
[23:40] <Beldar> TeraJL, imagebin a pic of the partitioner.
[23:40] <Etale> Wait, let me first try ATA HDD0 from the F12 thing like eeee suggested.
[23:41] <Etale> Holy smokes, that load GRUB!
[23:41] <liquidFury> Etale: what is the problem
[23:41] <crazybotsmoker> its 99% a UEFI/legacy issue
[23:41] <eeee> ok, do as daftykins suggested and you're all set.
[23:41] <daftykins> Etale: that'll only work for one time, you need to change it to be device #1 to be permanent
[23:41] <daftykins> crazybotsmoker: no, it is not
[23:41] <Beldar> liquidFury, The user has excellent help let them work. ;)
[23:41] <liquidFury> Ok
[23:42] <TeraJL> Beldar: http://imagebin.ca/v/1UhSCBr2Af6A
[23:42] <Etale> daftykins, gotcha. Okay I'll do that. And try to install 12.04 instead of 13.04...
[23:42] <Bashing-om> Muchachao: Great, you do good work !
[23:42] <Etale> I can already see what my next problem will be, btw. wlan0 doesn't show up.
[23:42] <Beldar> TeraJL, So sdb1 was the resize and is now unknown?
[23:42] <Etale> But I'll ask about that in the future...
[23:42] <daftykins> Etale: sure :) that'll change, sure you don't want to go with 14.04 LTS instead? newer support etc.
[23:43] <daftykins> Etale: whilst you're in Windows you could tell us the wifi device
[23:43] <Etale> daftykins, for whatever reason, when I put in the 14.04 disc it gets stuck on the Ubuntu logo...
[23:43] <TeraJL> the sdb1 was the working partition, the one i resized to create a new one... the new one did not got created (right square)
[23:43] <Etale> daftykins, the wifi device is Intel Single Band Wireless 7260BN with Bluetooth 4.0.
[23:44] <Beldar> TeraJL, Did you resize sdb1 while using it, err try to?
[23:44] <Beldar> while mounted
[23:45] <Bisono> hey guys, I need some help. I running an apache server, I want to give privs to another user to the var/www folder but I just want to be able to modify existing php files and thats it, what would be the correct permission for something like this.  Thanks,
[23:45] <TeraJL> Beldar: no, it was not mounted.. i clicked start (unmounted) and it was doing it's thing but for ever ( about 1 full day), i rebooted the pc and it got in that state... i barely use that disk
[23:45] <TeraJL> but i did not wanted to lose it.. it is not even mounted when i start the pc
[23:46] <daftykins> Bisono: modify = read/write so they'd be able to do it all
[23:46] <eeee> Etale: when ubuntu 14.04 loads, is there a tiny man at the bottom?
[23:46] <Pinkamena_D> how to find ALL posts by user (or at least older ones) on ubuntu forums?
[23:46] <Etale> eeee, no.
[23:46] <Pinkamena_D> it will only give me the latest 10
[23:46] <neruda> my 14.04 server vm reverts to the downloaded state everytime i reboot, desktop 14.04 doesnt do this, any suggestions?
[23:46] <Beldar> TeraJL, I would see if you can mount it from a live dvd/usb to get out what you need if there is anything and build a new partition, and check the HD with the smartcheck it is on the live.
[23:46] <daftykins> eeee: that's only in legacy boot i believe. black and white screen for EFI boot mode
[23:47] <Bisono> daftykins, yeah but how? that's where I'm getting confused.
[23:47] <eeee> yeah, it's a long shot, thought it might have something to do with that legacy first option
[23:47] <daftykins> Bisono: right now who owns /var/www ?
[23:47] <eeee> i guess you could install 12.04 and then upgrade
[23:47] <Bisono> root
[23:47] <eeee> since it seems to be a problem with the laptop model not the iso
[23:48] <Etale> eeee, can I just upgrade from 13.04, since that's what I have installed now?
[23:48] <Bisono> I have 2 users on this box me and root, I dont want to mod anything under root I just want to be able to mod files in that dir while being logged under me. if that makes sense.
[23:48] <daftykins> Bisono: is this 14.04 server? if so, /var/www/html is the document root. you're going to need to change the ownership of /var/www/html to be www-data:www-data, then add your user and the other user to the www-data group, then enable group write permissions
[23:49] <daftykins> Bisono: oh, just you... that's not really another user then :) change ownership to www-data:www-data, then add your user to www-data
[23:49] <Bisono> ok, but how. :D I get confused with the chmod & chown commands...
[23:49] <Muchachao> Bashing-om, thank you for the compliment, but without you I was still struggling.
[23:50] <Beldar> Pinkamena_D, try #ubuntuforums
[23:50] <eeee> Etale: i suppose so, daftykins would it be best to upgrade to 14.04 from 13.04 ? instead of installing 12.04 first and then upgrading ?
[23:50] <Beldar> eeee, eol to eol not a good idea
[23:50] <Bashing-om> Muchachao: Nah, just when all else fails, read the instructions.
[23:51] <eeee> Etale: ok, so install 12.04LTS first, then upgrade
[23:51] <Etale> OK. I'll try. Most likely I'm going to have problems with the wifi again, so I'll bug you about that.
[23:52] <daftykins> eeee: i was a little confused as to the status of that modified 13.04 release, i think 12.04 -> 14.04.1 would be easier than 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04.1
[23:52] <daftykins> Etale: i was just looking up wifi support, it seems 12.04 might be awkward for that, do you have wired LAN to upgrade from if so?
[23:53] <Etale> daftykins, I don't understand a lot of the technicalities. I plugged in the telephone cord that goes into the router into the laptop, hoping that it would show up as the eth0. It didn't...
[23:54] <Etale> daftykins, sudo ifconfig eth0 up said something like device not active or something like that...
[23:54] <daftykins> ah, a network cable
[23:54] <Beldar> daftykins, Etale seemed to have a black screen in the 14.04  dvd boot, I think they just need some help there if possible, this is a new area (linux) for them.
[23:54] <daftykins> Etale: can you also see the name of your wired LAN adapter in Windows?
[23:55] <Etale> daftykins, I'll let you know once I'll be in windows.
[23:56] <rocko2_> how do I edit the theme?
[23:56] <rocko2_> I want to change the color of highlighting
[23:56] <obelix_> pffff
[23:56] <obelix_> losers
[23:56] <daftykins> rocko2_: this isn't really IRC support, you'd need to state your client
[23:57] <rocko2_> daftykins I am talking about the system theme
[23:57] <daftykins> no idea then
[23:58] <Beldar> obelix_, When your looking in the mirror it is loser, not losers.
[23:59] <rocko2_> obelix_ is a troll