[18:01] <airurando> evening
[19:02] <czajkowski> aloha
[19:09] <airurando> evening czajkowski
[19:12] <czajkowski> watching the eurovision tonigt?
[19:20] <airurando> eurovision: yeah.
[19:21] <airurando> god help me Orla likes Jedward
[19:22] <jshortland> hi all
[19:22] <czajkowski> airurando: heheh
[19:26] <airurando> hi jshortland
[19:39] <airurando> ubuntu CDs are going fast.
[19:40] <airurando> If anyone knows someone who want one please holler.
[20:06] <czajkowski> whoo eurovision time
[21:57] <airurando> yeah jedwaed...
[21:57] <airurando> *jedward even
[21:57] <airurando> for my daughter....
[21:57] <czajkowski> whooo we're through
[21:58] <airurando> czajkowski yeah indeed
[21:59] <airurando> glad orla will be in Cork for the weekend and I'll be working
[22:00] <airurando> don't think I could handle the emotion......
[22:05] <czajkowski> hehehe
[22:06] <airurando> glad thats over


[05:01] <Kilos> morning all
[06:06] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  Squirm  inetpro
[06:10] <Squirm> hello
[06:26] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:02] <Kilos> hi bduk1
[07:03] <bduk1> Morning Kilos and everyone else
[07:15] <Kilos> hi Spekko  Vince-0
[08:28] <Vince-0> !
[08:54] <charl> good morning
[08:54] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:54]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:54] <Squirm> I need to start going to be before 12
[08:55]  * Squirm falls asleep
[08:55] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee please
[08:55] <Maaz> Squirm: Righto
[08:55] <JabberwockyA19> morning :)
[08:55] <Squirm> Maaz: larger
[08:55] <Maaz> Sorry Squirm  No more than a beer mug full is allowed. Times are hard!
[08:55] <JabberwockyA19> Maaz: coffee for me too please
[08:55] <Maaz> JabberwockyA19: *blink*
[08:55] <Squirm> oh come on
[08:55] <Squirm> Maaz: large
[08:55] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Squirm
[08:55] <charl> Maaz: large
[08:55] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you charl
[08:55] <charl> Maaz: with rusks
[08:55] <Maaz> There is a packet of Ouma's in the cupboard charl help yourself
[08:58] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Squirm!
[08:59] <Squirm> woo
[09:18] <Kilos> hi JabberwockyA19  charl
[09:19] <JabberwockyA19> hey Kilos :)
[09:20] <charl> hey Kilos
[09:20] <charl> hi JabberwockyA19
[09:20] <charl> *hi kilos, sorry
[09:20] <Kilos> you okes and your getho greetings
[09:20] <charl> before you say i sound like a wigger again
[09:20] <JabberwockyA19> hi charl :P
[09:20] <Kilos> haha
[09:21]  * Kilos trying to learn some html. gonna try writing it out over and over till it sinks in
[09:21] <charl> ah very good Kilos
[09:22] <charl> learning is fun and good
[09:22] <charl> you making a site again ?
[09:22] <Kilos> nope im hoping to understand how to help fix sites
[09:23] <Kilos> that clickworker pays for it
[09:23] <Kilos> minimal but more than im getting now
[09:24] <charl> nice
[09:24] <charl> good luck and tell us if you have questions
[09:24] <charl> i have been doing web development since 1997 or so
[09:24] <Kilos> oh i will dont worry ty. ive found a nice easy tutorial
[09:27] <Kilos> for raw beginners
[09:31] <JabberwockyA19> I've been studying way too much frontend tech
[09:32] <JabberwockyA19> old and new, these days I'm on the traceur (es6 -> es5 compiler) with polymer (web components extention) and angularjs bandwagon
[09:32] <JabberwockyA19> it's more like a train than a wagon though
[09:32] <JabberwockyA19> can't even say all in one breath
[09:34] <Kilos> lol
[09:34] <Kilos> just keep studying
[09:36] <JabberwockyA19> at one stage I thought I was wasting my time with things like coffeescript, but at the end of the day you still learn different concepts
[09:40] <JabberwockyA19> I'll probably write a atom plugin to respect vim swp files this weekend, so I'll need to use coffeescript again
[10:41] <charl> very nice JabberwockyA19
[11:56] <superfly> Kilos: http://htmldog.com
[11:56] <Kilos> lemme go see
[11:56] <Kilos> ty superfly
[12:01] <Kilos> will use both ty superfly  , im on this one atm
[12:01] <Kilos> http://htmldog.com/guides/html/beginner/
[12:02] <Kilos> will take a while anyway to get to remember any of it
[12:03] <Kilos> and gardening and cooking between
[12:39] <Squirm> Kilos: w3schools is also good
[12:40] <Squirm> that's where I learn
[12:40] <Squirm> t
[12:40] <Kilos> lemme just try get the basics into my head squirm. if i can do that and be able to make a basic page without refering to notes then good
[12:41] <Kilos> you much more advanced than ill ever be man
[12:55] <Squirm> it teaches you everything
[12:55] <Squirm> from the ground up
[13:01] <JabberwockyA19> Kilos: also see http://www.codecademy.com/learn
[13:01] <Kilos> ok ty will do
[13:27] <Kilos> hi TaraLS
[13:28] <Kilos> Squirm  help TaraLS  get a password going please
[13:28] <Kilos> like she forgot the old one
[13:29] <TaraLS> Oops
[13:29] <TaraLS> Hi peeps
[13:30] <Kilos> charl  yhelp man
[13:31] <Kilos> Maaz  google forgotten ubuntu password
[13:31] <Maaz> Kilos: "LostPassword - Community Help Wiki - Official Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword :: "Reset Your Forgotten Ubuntu Password in 2 Minutes or Less" http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-forgotten-ubuntu-password-in-2-minutes-or-less/ :: "How to reset your password in Ubuntu - psychocats.net"
[13:31] <Maaz> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword :: "How do I reset a lost administrative password? - Ask Ubuntu" htt…
[13:31] <TaraLS> Ooh, ty
[13:31] <Kilos> there TaraLS  one of them will tell how im sure
[13:32] <TaraLS> Ew it says I have to go into recovery mode
[13:33] <Kilos> all the links?
[13:33] <Kilos> Maaz  google How do I reset a lost administrative password? - Ask Ubuntu
[13:33] <Maaz> Kilos: "How do I reset a lost administrative password? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password :: "12.04 - how to reset a lost admin password? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/371634/how-to-reset-a-lost-admin-password :: "How do I reset my admin password - Ask Ubuntu"
[13:33] <Maaz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/407885/how-do-i-reset-my-admin-password :: "How to recover the root password on ubuntu …
[13:38] <TaraLS> Peeps are so quiet.
[13:39] <TaraLS> Anyhoo, I'm off Xchat for now. *wave*
[14:01] <Squirm> Kilos: if she can use sudo, or log in as root, then she can `sudo passwd <username>`
[14:01] <Squirm> and yeah... Recovery mode logs you in as root
[14:01] <Kilos> will thast let her change it Squirm  ?
[14:02] <Squirm> she has to be root
[14:02] <Kilos> you cant do that without the password i think hence recovery mode
[14:03] <Squirm> depends how you have sudo set up
[14:03] <Squirm> and if she remembers her root password she can change to root, through `su`
[14:03] <Kilos> wow
[14:03] <Kilos> she dont remember any password
[14:04] <Kilos> so no sudo at all
[14:04] <Squirm> recovery mode, you have to edit a boot option in grub, it then boots you into a root terminal, then you would first of all set your root password, with `passwd`, then set her user password
[14:04] <Kilos> no synaptic or update manager even
[14:05] <Kilos> sjoe
[14:05] <Kilos> but its working ok atm.
[14:06] <Kilos> just needs a years updates
[14:12] <Squirm> I'm off. Going down to Port Shepstone to see the girlfriend
[14:12] <Squirm> chat to you all on Sunday
[14:14] <Kilos> go safe Squirm
[14:26] <charl> ciao Squirm
[16:08] <magespawn> good evening
[16:12] <Cantide> good night!
[16:12] <Cantide> after 1 am here!
[16:50] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[16:51] <magespawn> hi Kilos
[16:54] <Kilos> sorry i took so long. tara struggling with 12.10. wont accept her password even after resetting it in recovery mode
[16:55] <Kilos> now she gatvol and gone to bed
[16:57] <Symmetria> heh
[16:57] <Symmetria> so I got a 4K 40" TV as a monitor now
[16:58] <Symmetria> and decided to see what would happen bandwidth wise if I was watching 4K video off youtube
[16:58] <Symmetria> all I can say is, ISPs in ZA better do something about their bandwidth in a hurry before that becomes common place
[16:58] <Symmetria> it chews 25mbit/second on a single stream
[17:10] <charl> Symmetria: we were just discussing that the other day in fact
[17:11] <Symmetria> charl heh, 100 users = 2.5gigabit/second
[17:11] <Symmetria> and while here in Kenya on our new network, we've designed for that kinda thing
[17:11] <Symmetria> ZA ISP's are gonna be in deep shit
[17:11] <charl> 2,5gbps would be no problem here either
[17:12] <charl> i have 90mbps at home and 40gbps at work
[17:12] <Symmetria> charl except, isps typically dont have 100 users watching
[17:12] <Symmetria> its closer to 10k users
[17:12] <Symmetria> and thats a whole other story
[17:12] <charl> yeah it's all scale
[17:12] <Symmetria> you're starting to reach into the realm of quater terabit and terabit style links
[17:12] <charl> of course, naturally
[17:12] <Symmetria> and considering the largest available circuit into a router is 100gig now
[17:12] <Symmetria> its ot easy
[17:13] <charl> look at the growth of traffic on the amsix/de-cix the last two years
[17:13] <charl> it's been in the news
[17:14] <charl> a month ago (in dutch unfortunately) http://tweakers.net/nieuws/98440/ams-ix-doorbreekt-grens-van-3tbit-s.html
[17:16] <charl> two years ago it was 2tbps http://tweakers.net/nieuws/85350/internetknooppunt-ams-ix-tikt-2tbps-aan.html
[17:16] <charl> it's grown by 1tbps in two years
[17:16] <charl> that's good growth, an increase of 50% over two years
[17:17] <charl> and two years before that it was 1tbps
[17:17] <charl> that sets a president to where we are heading
[17:19] <charl> and if you look at the de-cix right now, they are now going over 3tbps almost every day by the looks of it, as well
[18:00] <magespawn> that is a fair amount of information
[18:05] <gremble> o/
[18:11] <Kilos> hi gremble
[18:11] <Kilos> night all.sleep tight
[19:03] <magespawn> good night all
[19:03] <magespawn> exit


[00:06] <mark06> is it possible to clone all branches from a project into a single repository?
[00:07] <mark06> for example if you want to mirror your bazaar project into github, you need to keep track of each branch manually
[00:29] <jelmer> mark06: bzrtools has a command for that
[00:30] <jelmer> mark06: oh, hmm, perhaps it was a separate plugin
[00:31] <mark06> hmm I guess git-bzr-ng will not understand a multi-branch bzr repo anyway
[00:32] <jelmer> mark06: I think that's more of a git-bzr-ng than a bzr question
[00:34] <mark06> the use I would make of that is irrelevant
[00:34] <mark06> I still was curious to know if bzr was capable of doing that
[00:35] <mark06> but thanks anyway!
[00:36] <jelmer> mark06: if you use colocated branches, cloning a bzr directory somewhere should clone all branches
[00:36] <mark06> I asked because I saw some other extension for git with syntax like git clone bzr::lp:project
[00:37] <mark06> docs saying that it would clone all branches, but the example was actually with bzr:// protocol and not from launchpad
[00:37] <mark06> I tried same url style but got a really weird error on windows
[00:38] <mark06> anyway, next question, is bzr code ready to be compiled under 64-bit?
[00:39] <mark06> I was thinking about building bzr 2.6 for windows, but it needs to compile on both 32 and 64-bit
[00:39] <jelmer> mark06: Yeah, it has worked on 64-bit for a long time - for as long as we've been running it on 64-bit Linux machines
[00:39] <mark06> I saw one windows installer/build project somewhere but can't remember, anyone knows this?
[00:40] <mark06> why no 64-bit release then jelmer?
[00:40] <jelmer> mark06: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/331342
[00:42] <mark06> so the fix is as easy as making the installer like 64-bit python?
[00:42] <mark06> what is the installer built with, nsis by any chance?
[00:43]  * jelmer doesn't have a clue
[00:45] <mark06> ok
[00:45] <jelmer> (was never involved with the Windows side of things)
[00:46]  * mark06 hopes at least 64-bit compiation is not an issue if he ever tries to compile bzr on windows
[00:48] <mark06> should 2.6 bring reasobable bug fixes and performance on windows as compared to current release 2.5?
[00:48] <jelmer> mark06: I'm pretty sure it won't be an issue, bzr itself doesn't have anything problematic wrt 64 bit
[00:49] <mark06> one thing I experience is small display bug with qbzr that I fix by updating the plugin separately.... another issue is that it's really ugly on windows 8... I needed to use compatibility mode
[00:50] <jelmer> mark06: I'm sure other people would appreciate it if you made a 64bit build and put it out there :)
[00:50] <mark06> ok I will maybe give it a try if I have time
[01:16] <mark06> thanks all!
[01:16] <mark06> good night


[00:57] <astroo-> 0-days hitting Fedora and Ubuntu open desktops to a world of hurt  http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/12/fedora-and-ubuntu-0days-show-that-hacking-desktop-linux-is-now-a-thing/


[14:28]  * popey tickles cking
[14:28] <popey> who isnt here, bump
[14:28]  * popey tickles apm instead
[14:28] <popey> or apw ☺
[14:29] <popey> I am sat at a LUG meeting with someone who wants to install 12.04 on his Thinkpad X40 laptop. Seems a reasonable thing to want to do.
[14:29] <popey> Sadly 12.04 now doesn't "do" non-pae CPUs, and his laptop is a Pentium M class device - 1.6GHz, and I can't get past the installer.
[14:30] <popey> I have seen https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-November/034399.html this thread, and wondered if 'orphaned' is really the response for him?
[14:34] <JanC> popey: according to that mail only old Pentium M (400 MHz) should be affected?
[14:35] <popey> well I'm looking at the boot screen of ubuntu 12.04 i386 ISO and it says unable to boot and cites pae as the reason
[14:35] <JanC> popey: BIOS setting?
[14:35] <jwi> bug 930447
[14:35] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 930447 in linux "Unable to Install Ubuntu 12.04 on Pentium M x86 Laptop due to PAE kernel" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930447
[14:37] <JanC> I guess I should try precise on our event box hardware one of these days
[14:37] <JanC> which is mostly IBM thinkpads with Pentium M's...
[14:39] <mjg59> JanC: 400MHz FSB
[14:39] <mjg59> JanC: Which includes the 1.6GHz ones in the X40
[14:40] <JanC> ah, so that mail was not really good at describing what would be affected
[14:41] <JanC> hm
[14:41] <popey> hmm
[14:41] <popey> soooo, should i file a bug that this machine doesn't boot, is it expected to?
[14:41] <popey> or tell the guy 'tough'
[14:41] <JanC> we have R51 laptops mostly, I think
[14:42] <popey> oh, so from what mjg59 says this is expected to fail?
[14:42] <mjg59> popey: The CPU doesn't support PAE and the kernel in Precise has deliberately be changed to require PAE
[14:42] <popey> bummer
[14:43]  * popey reluctantly puts mint on a USB stick
[14:43] <popey> thanks chaps
[14:44] <mjg59> It's really unclear why Intel didn't implement PAE on those
[14:44] <popey> those linked bug reports do kinda give the impression that we're losing non-PAE in 12.10 not 12.04
[14:44] <popey> specifically the cut/paste from the techboard meeting in december
[14:49] <mjg59> /Looks/ like precise still builds generic and generic-pae packages
[14:49] <popey> but the iso has only got pae on it
[14:49] <popey> may be able to install off mini iso
[14:49] <popey> or upgrade from 11.10
[14:49] <mjg59> And git implies that the generic config still disables pae
[14:50] <mjg59> So sounds like the iso's been built with pae, but the kernel still supports non-pae
[14:50] <popey> thanks for looking
[14:50] <JanC> popey: should be possible to make a non-PAE remix too
[14:52] <JanC> (although maybe not useful immediately at the LUG meeting ;) )
[15:08] <JanC> seems like there Thinkpad R51 have a non-PAE Pentium M too...  :-/
[15:08] <JanC> *these*
[17:36] <apw> popey, we are supporting non-pae on 12.04, but defaulting to -pae on 32bit, including the cds
[17:37] <apw> popey, but if more cpus than we had been told are affected the cd default may be wrong
[17:47] <popey> apw: i was kinda surprised a mainstream device like a thinkpad would be 'broken'
[17:50] <apw> popey, indeed.  you should get a bug filed with teh machine spec, to add to the decision for the cd default
[17:53] <apw> popey, what is annoying is that if you support pae, then a pae kernel saves power


[16:55] <flocculant> bluesabre: are we intending to tell users 16.10 is EOL next week?
[18:32] <knome> hmm.
[18:32] <knome> thanks for the information, i need to upgrade my laptop :P
[18:34] <knome> apparently xubuntu.org considers 16.10 EOL already
[18:34] <knome> since yesterday
[18:34]  * knome extended by a week
[18:35] <knome> bbl
[19:00] <flocculant> knome: I think it got extended - the date on dev.xo came from motd when I put that there
[19:45] <knome> flocculant, no worries :)
[19:51] <flocculant> guessing we should alert users - now rather than when the repos dry up :D
[19:54] <knome> yup
[19:58] <flocculant> we're a bit hit and miss at that :p
[20:25] <knome> indeed


[13:15] <leoquant> via: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Calendar I try to add an event via a gmail account to ubuntu : http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar
[13:15] <leoquant> but the event isn't on the fridge yet
[13:15] <leoquant> someone into fridge calendar?
[13:16] <leoquant> everything is set as subscribed in the wiki
[13:17] <leoquant> does someone approve/add events requests to the calendar/
[13:18] <leoquant> and push the events into the calendar....
[13:23] <leoquant> : http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/626/detail/


[19:59] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:09] <snail> morning
[20:14] <ajmitch> morning
[20:48] <hads> Morning
[21:04] <chilts> mornings
[22:15] <snail> i love it how construction workers just love to turn off the power over the weekend 'because no one is there'; also how many reboots windows takes to fully recover from a nasty power failure
[22:20] <Atamira> morning
[22:34] <ibeardslee> Has anyone stumbled across power boards for racks that have some display for useage per outlet?
[23:11] <snail> ibeardslee: turn off one switch at a time and see who screams :)
[23:16] <ibeardslee> looking for something a bit 'how much power' than that


[07:11] <praisethemoon> good day everyone :)
[09:28] <elacheche> o/
[09:29] <praisethemoon_> elacheche, o/
[18:44] <praisethemoon> elacheche, guess what :D
[18:45] <praisethemoon> since i already wrote a major part of berserk in C/C++ and I want to complete it  in lua, I actually managed to translate the parse tree to Lua tables :) now I am finishing it in Lua .. <3 <3


[19:09] <knome> dpm, hey!
[19:12] <dpm> hey knome
[19:13] <knome> dpm, i heard i should contact you about translations
[19:13] <knome> dpm, later in the cycle, hopefully really soon, we're going to have a new GUI in xubuntu for managing our lightdm stuff
[19:13] <knome> dpm, ...and we need translators for that
[19:13] <dpm> knome, ah, cool
[19:13] <knome> dpm, could you point us to the best way of gathering them?
[19:15] <dpm> knome, for a start, I'd recommend a couple of things: 1) set up translations in Launchpad 2) Set permissions to 'Restricted', assigned to ubuntu-translators 3) Announce the project in the ubuntu-translators mailing list, on the Planet, etc. I'll be happy to help promoting it
[19:15] <knome> okay, thanks
[19:21] <dpm> knome, let me know how it goes and if you need any help. Or feel free to ask any of the guys in #ubuntu-translators
[19:21] <knome> yeah, will do
[19:21] <knome> thanks a lot
[19:23] <dpm> no worries :)


[00:02] <MarkDude> Greenlight for Girls http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012/public/schedule/detail/25195 is a new nonprofit dedicated to encouraging girls in STEM (science, technology, engineering, and math) education. g4g will be organizing a “mission to Mars” robotics programming project for girls aged 11-15 at OSCON on July 18 and 19.
[00:03]  * MarkDude is sharing link here since they are looking for folks to donate to help girls attend http://g4goscon.eventbrite.com/


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[10:39] <xnox> infinity, src:click is up for demotion, and thus taking src:schroot with it. Do we want to seed src:schroot into something "supported" or do we not care that it is in universe?
[10:39] <xnox> imho there is no need for it to be in main, and it was not in e.g. precise.
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[12:53] <infinity> xnox: I'd argue that sbuild (which would bring in schroot) should be in main in supported-development, but they've historically not been, indeed.
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[14:41] <acheronuk> all the above ^^^^ ref bug #1687444
[14:41] <ubot5`> bug 1687444 in plasma-desktop (Ubuntu Zesty) "Zesty SRU tracking bug for KDE's Plasma 5.9.5" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1687444
[14:44] <jbicha> acheronuk: I'm not on the SRU team, but are at least some of those updates independently installable?
[14:44] <jbicha> in other words, could that be split into multiple bugs?
[14:57] <acheronuk> jbicha: AFAIK, not something we've done before on plasma SRU's (excepted if it is just one or 2 packages to update over the normal bugfix versions)
[14:57] <acheronuk> i.e. just done as a suite like bug #1518598
[14:57] <ubot5`> bug 1518598 in plasma-workspace (Ubuntu) "SRU tracking bug for Plasma 5.4.3" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518598
[14:58] <jbicha> that's a bad example since that SRU didn't happen
[14:58] <acheronuk> just the first I came to
[15:00] <jbicha> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/318708996/user-manager_4%3A5.9.4-0ubuntu1_4%3A5.9.5-0ubuntu0.1.diff.gz
[15:01] <jbicha> ok, that's a minimal SRU but maybe too minimal?
[15:04] <acheronuk> jbicha: some of the packages with a very small delta can maybe be dropped. we deliberately only bumped deps on packages that really needed it to allow that flexibility should the release/SRU team want to prune things
[15:06] <jbicha> ok, better example: plasma-workspace-wallpapers, it's a 41MB .deb just to add a Turkish translation
[15:07] <acheronuk> see what I said above
[15:09] <acheronuk> jbicha: I'm sure AA/SRU team will want to discuss with us tomorrow or coming days. for now, going to enjoy my Sunday. :)
[15:10] <jbicha> ok, enjoy!
[15:11] <acheronuk> jbicha: and you. thanks for the comments
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[19:31] <xnox> jjohansen, internet troubles?
[19:31] <jjohansen> zesty troubles, I keep having hard lockups
[19:32] <jjohansen> nothing logged
[19:32] <xnox> jjohansen, NVMe drive?
[19:32] <xnox> Samsung or Toshiba?
[19:34] <jjohansen> yeah, samsung 960
[19:38] <jjohansen> however I didn't have the same problem under the yakkety kernel
[19:40] <Bashing-om> jjohansen: nVida graphics ? same issue - and installing proprietary driver worked for my case .
[19:41] <jjohansen> Bashing-om: yeah dual intel, nvidia. I am not using the nvidia gpu but, nouveau could still be causing problems
[19:42] <jjohansen> the nvidia driver has its own set of problems, I am not sure I am willing to deal with atm
[19:45] <Bashing-om> jjohansen: Fought the freezing for a month -= could not find a cause . for lack of else to try - installed the nVidia driver . solid as a rock since !
[19:47] <jjohansen> Bashing-om: interesting, I guess I will have to give it a try
[19:47] <jjohansen> thanks
[19:49] <Bashing-om> jjohansen: Be aware I have no clue as to why - other things need attention then I revert to looking at the nouveau driver issue .
[20:03] <xnox> jjohansen, there is bug report for that and better kernel.
[20:03] <xnox> jjohansen, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1678184
[20:03] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1678184 in linux (Ubuntu) "APST quirk needed for Samsung 512GB NVMe drive" [Medium,Confirmed]
[20:04] <xnox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1678184/comments/44
[20:04] <xnox> jjohansen, there was an update that enabled power management....
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