[15:53] <mterry> whoops, forgot to join freenode
[16:25] <josharenson> pstolowski: I'm trying to install https://code.launchpad.net/~stolowski/+junk/scope-social_actions but it isn't showing up in my scopes list. I'm using click to build and pkcon to install...
[16:26] <pstolowski> josharenson, how do you exactly install it with pkcon?
[16:26] <josharenson> pstolowski: pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted socialtest.pawelstolowski_0.1_armhf.click
[16:27] <pstolowski> josharenson, the name of the scope in the Manage dash page is 'Books (social actions)' - are you sure it's not there?
[16:28] <josharenson> pstolowski: yes and I've restarted unity8 since installing it
[16:29] <pstolowski> john-mcaleely, any errors about this scope in /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/scope-registry.log ?
[16:30] <pstolowski> john-mcaleely, sorry, not you ;)
[16:30] <pstolowski> josharenson, ^
[16:30] <john-mcaleely> :-)
[16:30] <josharenson> pstolowski: checking the log... just saw I also get this when building http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15480758/
[16:31] <josharenson> log looks ok, not sure about that error ^^ though
[16:31] <pstolowski> josharenson, hmm. i always build with click-buddy, can you try that instead?
[16:32] <josharenson> pstolowski: sure
[16:33] <josharenson> pstolowski: also, just FYI, i am building in a chroot, but installing outside of it :-)
[16:33] <pstolowski> josharenson, that's ok as long as you have same libs in both worlds
[16:35] <josharenson> pstolowski: should... anyways, give me a few min, installing phablet-tools and trying w/ click-buddy. thanks for the help
[16:38] <pstolowski> josharenson, btw, the click/ subdir of my scope has armhf package already
[16:38] <josharenson> pstolowski: oh? ok trying that
[16:40] <josharenson> pstolowski: still isnt there :-/ I also have silo 13 installed
[16:45] <pstolowski> josharenson, weird.. what does 'ls -l /home/phablet/.local/share/unity-scopes/socialtest.pawelstolowski_socialtest_0.1' show?
[16:47] <josharenson> pstolowski:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15480871/
[16:50] <pstolowski> josharenson, can you check again scope-registry.log?
[16:52] <josharenson> pstolowski: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15480900/  the build just finished, going to try installing the locally build package
[16:54] <pstolowski> josharenson, it's a bit short, does it cover the time from the shell startup?
[16:55] <josharenson> pstolowski: ah, shows up when I installed the locally built one
[16:55] <josharenson> humm
[16:56] <pstolowski> hmm, did i forgot to rebuild or something...
[16:56] <pstolowski> josharenson, so click-buddy helped with your local build?
[16:57] <josharenson> pstolowski: I guess... I deleted .local/share/unity-scopes/socialtest.pawelstolowski_socialtest_0.1, cleared the logs, and installed the package i built locally (in a chroot) with click-buddy, and it worked
[16:58] <pstolowski> josharenson, ok.. btw, it's not going to show social actions with silo 13. it should work with silo 71 in theory, but doesn't currently for some unknown problem atm
[16:59] <josharenson> pstolowski: cool, I'm hoping to look into that problem as I'm reviewing the social cards branch
[16:59] <josharenson> pstolowski: thanks for the help
[17:00] <pstolowski> josharenson, yw. i'm rebuilding silo 71 (with some problems). will look at this silo again tomorrow morning and try to debug why it's not working
[17:00] <josharenson> pstolowski: ok
[17:00] <josharenson> pstolowski: I'll let you know if I find anything interesting
[17:03] <pstolowski> josharenson, ok, thanks. drop me an email as we are in different TZs i think
[19:21] <dandrader> do unity8 autopilot tests restart unity8 before/after each test?


[21:06] <knome> bluesabre, since you are on #launchpad... see my comments there (and https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/672116, not sure if they need explicit council approval)
[21:08] <bluesabre> knome, thanks, will keep an eye on it
[21:09] <knome> thanks
[21:09] <knome> guess you could just comment on the question that council approves so it's there if they need it...
[21:09] <knome> but feel free to save pushing buttons in case you so feel d:


[12:56] <defcon> chuck short here?
[12:58] <defcon> he replied to my posted kernel bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/130078 and he requested a full "oops" is oops the output of the error or the whole boot log, btw bootlogd and logd isnt working, its not logging my boot process
[03:54] <tampafl> evening all
[03:55] <tampafl> I am looking for my kernel src code.  I guess in /usr/src... but I have script that says, " Kernel source from "/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/build" will be used to build the module.
[03:55] <infinity> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[03:56] <infinity> I'm assuming you just need the headers here, if it's just to compile something against your running kernel.
[03:56] <tampafl> thanks you ;) ;)
[03:56] <tampafl> said everytrhing  up to date, 0 done
[03:57] <infinity> Err, then you have the headers installed.  You win.
[03:57] <tampafl> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/build SUBDIRS=/home/bob/vpnclient modules
[03:57] <tampafl> make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic'
[03:57] <tampafl>   CC [M]   /home/bob/vpnclient/linuxcniapi.o
[03:58] <infinity> (note that /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/build is a symlink to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic)
[03:58] <tampafl> hummm
[03:59] <tampafl> any ideas for the first make error?
[03:59] <mjg59> tampafl: You haven't pasted an error yet...
[04:01] <infinity> Yeah, I'm not seeing any errors.
[06:52] <lamont> mkdir -p debian/d-i-hppa
[06:52] <lamont> imagelist=$(cat kernel-versions | grep ^hppa | awk '{print $4}') && \
[06:52] <lamont>         for i in $imagelist; do \
[06:52] <lamont>           dpkg -x $(ls ../linux-image-$i\_*hppa.deb) \
[06:53] <lamont>                 debian/d-i-hppa; \
[06:53] <lamont>         done
[06:53] <lamont> dpkg-deb: --extract takes at most two arguments (.deb and directory)
[03:44] <mjg59> rtg: There's a (apparently) working patch for alps
[03:48] <rtg> mjg59: Where?
[03:49] <mjg59> rtg: I've attached a link to the bug
[03:50] <rtg> mjg59: Thanks.
[03:51] <rtg> mjg59: Is Vostro the model of the ALPS touchpad?
[03:52] <mjg59> No, it's a range of Dell laptops
[03:53] <rtg> Its not a term I've heard from Dell.
[03:54] <mjg59> http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/vostronb?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd
[03:55] <rtg> mjg59: Huh. Marketing stuff. All I ever deal with are the engineers and they use different terminology.
[03:59] <rtg> mjg59: I'll post a test kernel in the LP report later today (if it works).
[04:49] <Nafallo> is atheros working those days? :-)
[04:54] <Nafallo> AR5005G to be exact :-)
[05:57] <BenC> Nafallo: should be
[05:58] <Nafallo> nice. I just ordered a cheapas laptop to have until I can afford a better one :-)
[05:58] <Nafallo> has all sorts of weird hardware in it :-/
[06:02] <lamont> BenC: I won't say my tree is ready to be synced yet...  In somewhere around an hour I expect that I will say that...
[06:03] <lamont> BenC: and it would be nice if the extraction mess above had the kernel deb version in the expansion for dpkg -x, so that it quits bitching when there is cruft above
[06:19] <BenC> lamont: we don't expect cruft in a build, but I guess it makes sense :)
[06:19] <lamont> it's cruft in the parent directory, though... :-)
[06:20] <lamont> and yeah.  hence the "it'd be nice" instead of a patch.. :)
[06:20] <BenC> I should "rm -f ../*.deb" in the clean target :)
[06:20] <lamont> that'd get you a bug report, for certain. :-)
[06:20] <BenC> hehe
[06:39] <login_> hi guys. any of you know how to enable 1000Hz while compiling kernel?
[06:43] <kylem> eh?
[06:44] <kylem> make menuconfig -> processor type -> timer frequency
[06:46] <lamont> morning kylem
[06:47] <movi> kylem -> no_Hz
[06:48] <mjg59> movi: So?
[06:49] <mjg59> It's a point, though - I don't think there's any real downside to 1000Hz on a dyntick system
[07:05] <lamont> find: debian/nic-usb-modules-2.6.22-9-hppa64-di: No such file or directory
[07:05] <lamont> nic-usb-modules-2.6.22-9-hppa64-di will be empty
[07:05] <lamont> make: *** [binary-udebs]  Error 1
[07:05] <lamont> is it trivial to tell the build to not expect that directory?
[07:06] <lamont> for just one kernel image on one arch?
[07:21] <BenC> mjg59: if that were true, wouldn't they disable that option when NOHZ is enabled?
[07:21] <mjg59> BenC: It still has an influence
[07:21] <mjg59> The most likely poor influence would be a slight drop in throughput
[07:22] <mjg59> But there's none of the power-related issues
[07:22] <BenC> what's the gain then?
[07:24] <mjg59> Reduced latency
[07:24] <lamont> timer granularity, polled-event granularity
[07:24] <mjg59> The same reason the -rt people have always wanted CONFIG_1000HZ
[07:24] <BenC> might be worth it for -generic then
[07:25] <lamont> we use 1000 on the telco stuff HP ships


[10:51] <cpaelzer_> hi rbalint, I wanted to ask about the current state of systemd autopkgtests in hirsute
[10:51] <cpaelzer_> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/s/systemd/hirsute/amd64
[10:51] <cpaelzer_> looks like the usual retry-land and ppc64el isn't much better
[10:52] <cpaelzer_> all I'm asking is should devs continue to retrigger or is there a current known issue and a fix we should watch for ?
[14:39] <ItzSwirlz> rbasak: I noticed LP #1901344 is just sitting around, want to review it? (both patches apply on both focal and groovy)
[14:39] <ItzSwirlz> yay right room and username this time lol
[14:40] <rbasak> ItzSwirlz: sure but I don't think I'll get to it today. Feel free to ping reminders (in fact, please do).
[14:40] <ItzSwirlz> sure, i'll ping you tomorrow
[14:59] <jdstrand> rick_h: hey, sorry. xnox did point me to a couple places (thanks xnox!) but I didn't follow up there cause I thought this was more of a ua thing. basically, I'm registered with my canonical email address, but that links to the same ubuntuone/launchpad accound (jdstrand), which now doesn't have the canonical email, but has a personal
[14:59] <jdstrand> rick_h: so, really, does the system allow for changing email addresses?
[15:06] <jdstrand> rick_h: well, weird. I just logged back in to ubuntu.com/advantage and today it is showing the correct information, so I guess there is nothing left to do. odd
[15:06] <jdstrand> rick_h: have a nice rest of the day :)
[20:14] <rick_h> jdstrand:  hah ok good stuff


[12:07] <Ubulette> asac, bug 157126
[12:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 157126 in firefox "FF2 without default mozilla-five-home" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157126
[12:08] <Ubulette> bug 177280
[12:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 177280 in nspr "[hardy] epiphany does noet start, libplds4.so not found" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177280
[12:31] <Ubulette> https://edge.launchpad.net/~pkg-mozilla-maintainers/  ???
[14:31] <armin76> beta2 released
[15:13] <asac> jimmy_: yes .... please commit your changes so we can plumber a package out of it
[15:25] <armin76> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux ia64; en-US; rv:1.9b2) Gecko/2007121915 (Gentoo) Firefox/3.0b2
[15:25] <armin76> http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b2/whatsnew/ <- have you seen this? :D
[15:32] <asac> Ubulette: is epiphy broken for you as well? e.g. breacuse of nspr?
[16:59] <armin76> hrm...why the bin version of firefox beta2 has different icons?
[18:14] <jimmy_> asac: ping
[18:16] <jimmy_> asac: i pushed those changes, please pull it and see if you can do a debian build of it, i'll be working on the panning add-on, btw the icons may not be the final set we use, because we need to redo the reset icon, i just used another set of +/- icons for now
 asac, vv
 fta@ix:~ $ epiphany
 epiphany-browser: error while loading shared libraries: libplds4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:23] <Ubulette> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8624 2007-12-13 19:03 /usr/lib/libplds4.so.0d
[22:37] <Ubulette> asac, I assume we'll released ff3 b2 without system cairo ? :(
[22:37] <Ubulette> -d
[22:40] <asac> jimmy_: i already have a panning here
[22:40] <asac> jimmy_: if you want it let me know
[22:41] <jimmy_> asac: what panning are you using?
[22:41] <jimmy_> i have panning working with a addon
[22:41] <asac> k ... try about:config ... does panning work there as well=
[22:41] <asac> ?
[22:41] <jimmy_> so it is built-in?
[22:42] <asac> well ... doesn't matter much
[22:42] <asac> you could do it as an addon as well ... for now i had anchored it in midbrowser.xul
[22:42] <asac> just tell me if your panning implementation works for about:config and gmail
[22:42] <asac> if it does we want it :)
[22:43] <asac> Ubulette: most likely yes.
[22:43] <asac> Ubulette: we should switch to system nspr soon though ... to get rid of the nspr linking issue in epiphany
[22:44] <jimmy_> asac: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1250
[22:45] <jimmy_> it is a pdf-style panning
[22:45] <jimmy_> not sure it would work for about:config, i can try
[22:45] <asac> yes, please do ... and try with gmail as well
[22:46] <asac> ok appears not to work in about:config
[22:46] <asac> (e.g. in trees and scroll areas)
[22:47] <asac> but works with gmail
[22:47] <asac> goo
[22:47] <asac> d
[22:47] <jimmy_> works for gmail
[22:47] <jimmy_> but not about:config
[22:47] <jimmy_> you have to click on a non-selectable area on the web page to move the page
[22:47] <asac> yeah ... expected. no idea if we want panning in scroll areas, but i think in the end we want it
[22:47] <asac> yep
[22:48] <asac> ok
[22:48] <jimmy_> i have to hack the add-on a little bit to make it work on MID browser tho
[22:48] <asac> what do you need to hack in addition to the right application id?
[22:48] <jimmy_> it references browser.xul, and i need to change it to midbrowser.xul
[22:48] <asac> ah
[22:48] <asac> hmm
[22:49] <asac> i thought we had an override for browser.xul -> midbrowser.xul
[22:49] <jimmy_> so it adds the button to the navigation toolbar next to the zoom
[22:49] <asac> isn't that the case anymore?
[22:49] <jimmy_> do we?
[22:49] <jimmy_> i thought we just replicated it
[22:49] <asac> in midbrowser 2 there where cases where we needed to pretend that midbrowser.xul was browser.xul
[22:50] <asac> yes ... but in addition we also had an override so resolving browser.xul through chrome returned midbrowser.xul
[22:50] <jimmy_> hmm, i am not sure about that, i only know that i did change the the addon to reference midbrowser.xul to make it work properly
[22:50] <asac> jimmy_: we still have it
[22:50] <asac> %  override chrome://browser/content/browser.xul %content/midbrowser/midbrowser.xul
[22:51] <asac> in midbrowser/base/jar.mn
[22:51] <asac> if you type chrome://browser/content/browser.xul in the location bar you should get the midbrowser in the content area
[22:51] <asac> anyway, if we want the addon in now its certainly good to hack it :)
[22:52] <jimmy_> interesting, i have no idea then, because when i just changed the install.rdf file, it wouldn't run
[22:52] <asac> how does it reference browser.xul?
[22:54] <jimmy_> there were 4 entries, all inside the <RDF> tags
[22:54] <jimmy_>  <RDF:li resource="chrome://midbrowser/content/midbrowser.xul"/>
[22:54] <jimmy_> <RDF:Seq about="chrome://midbrowser/content/midbrowser.xul">
[22:57] <asac> jimmy_: overlay definition?
[22:57] <asac> or where is that from?
[22:57] <jimmy_> content/grabanddrag/contents.rdf
[22:58] <jimmy_> and skin/classic/grabanddrag/contents.rd
[22:58] <asac> ok
[22:58] <jimmy_> what is an rdf file?
[22:59] <jimmy_> resource definition?
[22:59] <asac> yes ... its an xml format
[23:00] <jimmy_> well, let me know if you want me to send you the modified xpi file
[23:00] <jimmy_> or you already have panning working, u said
[23:00] <asac> jimmy_: not needed ... just wonder how we want to distribute it
[23:00] <asac> jimmy_: the panning in the extension is advanced
[23:01] <asac> we should take that imo
[23:01] <jimmy_> how do you enable that extension?
[23:01] <asac> i coded it based on what is in minimo
[23:01] <asac> but didn't take much time
[23:02] <asac> so we can just dump it if the extension is better (which it is imo)
[23:03] <asac> extension == the addon you found
[23:03] <jimmy_> oh, i see, i thought you said FF has a built-in extension that you can enabled for panning
[23:04] <asac> nope
[23:04] <jimmy_> ok, so are you going to do the deb build for Canonical's demo?
[23:05] <jimmy_> or whatever distribution mechanism they want it in
[23:05] <jimmy_> because i'll be gone starting next week for vacation, and won't be back till 1/13
[23:07] <asac_> 00:03 < jimmy_> oh, i see, i thought you said FF has a built-in extension that you can enabled for panning
[23:07] <asac_> 00:04 < asac> nope
[23:07] <asac_> 00:04 < asac> jimmy_: ok, i think we should just package that extension then. mobile installs can then install it  by default if they want midbrowser with panning
[23:07] <asac_> 00:07 < asac_> sorry reconnect
[23:08] <jimmy_> Bob sent me some new icons we can use for resetting the zoom too, would you want me to check those in and replace the current ones? or you want me to just send those to you and you pick which ones u wanna use
[23:09] <asac_> jimmy_: feel free to check them in ... in beta 2 all this will be different anywaysw
[23:09] <jimmy_> ok
[23:09] <asac_> jimmy_: did you make the icons bigger as well?
[23:10] <jimmy_> they are 32x32, i think
[23:10] <asac_> jimmy_: ok, i will do the package tomorrow then. and do a package for the extension
[23:11] <asac_> its just replacing browser.xul by midbrowser.xul in contents.rdf files, right?
[23:11] <jimmy_> so do i need to send you the extension?
[23:11] <asac_> if its just replacing then no ... but maybe better safe than sorry
[23:12] <jimmy_> yeah, i'll send you a copy just in case
[23:12] <asac_> great
[23:12] <jimmy_> i'll check in those icons as well
[23:19] <asac> ok i will take whatever is in git in 10 hours or so :)
[23:19] <asac> night
[23:32] <jimmy_> asac: night, i also emailed you the xpi file
[23:48] <Ubulette> asac, i've merged my .head branches into xul/ff3.dev. So b2 is ready, I just have to close changelog, but maybe you want system nss/nspr in this release. Tell me, i'll finish it.


[01:17] <asac> !test
[01:59] <[reed]> asac: ping
[01:59] <asac> [reed]: yes
[01:59] <asac> i am out
[01:59] <asac> ;)
[02:00] <asac> 1 minute to 3
[02:00] <asac> whats up?
[02:00] <[reed]> PM
[08:59] <BUGabundo_remote> morning
[09:29] <BUGabundo_remote> asac: $ firefox-3.7 -profile /tmp/firefox  -no-remote file://`pwd`/startup.html#`python -c ‘import time; print int(time.time() * 1000);’`
[09:29] <BUGabundo_remote> bash: command substitution: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[09:29] <BUGabundo_remote> bash: command substitution: line 1: `python -c ‘import time; print int(time.time() * 1000);’'
[09:29] <BUGabundo_remote> from http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/2010/01/19/chromium-vs-minefield-cold-startup-performance-comparison/
[09:31] <[reed]> change ‘import time; print int(time.time() * 1000);’ to 'import time; print int(time.time() * 1000);'
[09:32] <[reed]> so
[09:32] <[reed]> firefox-3.7 -profile /tmp/firefox  -no-remote file://`pwd`/startup.html#`python -c 'import time; print int(time.time() * 1000);'`
[09:32] <BUGabundo_remote> thanks [reed]
[09:32] <BUGabundo_remote> ahh ' vs ´
[09:33] <[reed]> yes
[09:33] <BUGabundo_remote> [reed]: no echo at all...
[09:33] <[reed]> hmm
[09:33] <BUGabundo_remote> no window opens, nothing
[09:34] <BUGabundo_remote> chromium does open, but fails to open the correct page
[10:02] <LLStarks|Lazy> asac, have you ever noticed how you can't use back after clicking home in firefox?
[10:02] <LLStarks|Lazy> unless you hammer back really quickly after
[10:02] <LLStarks|Lazy> and forces you to use the dropdown menu for it
[11:10] <asac> LLStarks|Lazy: yes
[11:10] <LLStarks|Lazy> feature?
[11:15] <asac> usability bug
[11:16] <BUGabundo_remote> humm called?
[11:29] <[reed]> asac: bug #?
[11:39] <asac> [reed]: thats ubuntu specific
[11:39] <asac> you know the bug number ;)
[11:39] <asac> it will go away
[11:40] <[reed]> ah
[11:41] <asac> about:home is the solution
[11:42] <[reed]> you should do that already
[11:42] <[reed]> :)
[11:45] <asac> we are on it ... on it
[11:47]  * asac killed the daily 3.6 build with his all-in-one-commit it seems L;)
[11:47]  * asac goes and fixes
[12:03] <LLStarks|Lazy> oooh. it's fixed?
[12:07] <asac> soon
[12:22] <LLStarks|Lazy> it's been around for at least a year
[12:22] <LLStarks|Lazy> thanks
[12:29] <fta2> BUGabundo_remote, what about SSL?
[13:23] <BUGabundo_remote> wb fta
[13:23] <BUGabundo_remote> fta you were missed yesterday
[13:23] <BUGabundo_remote> fta I'm no so sure about Ch snaps are about SSL
[13:23] <BUGabundo_remote> I just get it on any page
[13:23] <BUGabundo_remote> some work fine, some don't
[13:23] <BUGabundo_remote> some always fail, others just fail some times
[13:28] <fta2> BUGabundo_remote, did you look for an existing bug?
[13:28] <BUGabundo_remote> not yet
[14:54] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: (02:52:49 PM) bjsnider: i think it's ironic that a lot of google's pages are snapping
[16:17] <asac> ccheney: good morning ;)
[16:45] <ccheney> asac: hello :)
[16:46] <ccheney> asac: checked email, about to start working on the patch, got OOo uploaded yesterday its just waiting on a mir to be processed now
[16:48] <asac> kk
[18:33] <ccheney> argh my OOo upload needs to be redone due to arm :-\
[19:04] <micahg> asac: so, FF36 release tomorrow, do we need to do anything?
[19:07] <asac> micahg: i am working on it
[19:07] <asac> i moved ffox 3.6 to all-static now
[19:07] <asac> in .head
[19:07] <asac> waiting for a build in my sandbox ppa to finish
[19:07] <asac> then wanted to change package names which can be quite tricky i guess ;)
[19:08] <asac> fta: are you there?
[19:08] <asac> fta: i think i would need your services ;)
[19:08] <fta> i am
[19:08] <asac> fta: so ... source rename
[19:08] <asac> ;)
[19:09] <asac> i want to start and move the firefox-3.6 package to firefox source
[19:09] <asac> as "current stable" channel
[19:09] <asac> but mozclient doesnt like that idea ;)
[19:09] <fta> why?
[19:09] <asac> not sure how to best do that as "firefox" would now point to 3.6, then to 3.7 etc.
[19:09] <asac> fta: it looks for "sourcepackage.mk"
[19:10] <asac> but we only have firefox-3.6.mk
[19:10] <asac> rather than firefox.mk
[19:10] <fta> rename it then
[19:10] <asac> so what i think we could do is to ship links
[19:10] <asac> e.g. we ship a link firefox.mk -> firefox-3.6.mk
[19:10] <asac> firefox-next.mk -> firefox-3.7.mk
[19:10] <asac> or beta
[19:10] <asac> not sure what name there (and for now i wont touch those packages/branches)
[19:11] <fta> why not just rename it? it's all in package so it's independent
[19:11] <asac> well. technically it maps to a branch specific to firefox-3.6
[19:11] <asac> and only for now the "packagename" firefox points to firefox-3.6
[19:11] <asac> at some point it would be firefox-old
[19:11] <asac> or something
[19:11] <asac> oh
[19:11] <asac> hmm
[19:11] <asac> you say its in package
[19:11] <asac> let me check
[19:12] <fta> mozclient uses whatever you use for MOZCLIENT_PROJECTNAME
[19:12] <fta> MOZCLIENT_PROJECTNAME   := $(DEBIAN_NAME)
[19:12] <fta> MOZCLIENT_PROJECTDIR    := $(CURDIR)/debian/mozclient
[19:12] <fta> include $(CURDIR)/debian/mozclient/$(DEBIAN_NAME).mk
[19:13] <fta> that's all for mozclient
[19:13] <asac> ok i will chek what happens if i just rename
[19:13] <asac> that feels liek it
[19:13] <asac> thanks
[19:13] <asac> hmm. can we drop the stuff in /usr/share?
[19:13] <asac> at least for the branches we already have in package?
[19:13] <fta> hm, the include should use MOZCLIENT_PROJECTNAME rather than DEBIAN_NAME
[19:13] <fta> yes
[19:14] <fta> ff,xul,tb should be ok to drop from m-d
[19:14] <asac> yeah
[19:14] <asac> noted
[19:14] <fta> prism,sm are still needed
[19:16] <asac> how is MOZCLIENT_PROJECTNAME ment to be different?
[19:18] <asac> ok trying to produce orig
[19:26] <fta> asac, btw, i had to re-add third_party/cld, not sure it has an impact on your license work
[19:27] <asac> did we remove that because of the licensing?
[19:27] <fta> anyone else seeing the chromium snaps BUGabundo reported??
[19:27] <asac> what is that? what is that needed for?
[19:27] <fta> asac, to build :)
[19:32] <fta> http://www.osnews.com/story/22764/Why_Firefox_s_Future_Lies_in_Google_s_Hands
[19:41] <mconnor> asac: are you guys shipping a branded 64-bit build?
[19:46] <fta> yes
[19:50] <micahg> asac: I was wondering more if you need anything from me :)
[19:52] <asac> micahg: let me finish this ;) ... lets talk in 2h if possible
[19:52] <micahg> asac: sure , np
[19:54] <gnomefreak> micahg: did you get my comment on SM2 the other day
[19:54]  * micahg doesn't remember gnomefreak
[19:55] <gnomefreak> micahg: SM2 using -devscripts it grabs source for 2.1 still, also the versioning needs to be changed
[19:55] <micahg> ah, yes, gnomefreak
[19:55] <gnomefreak> it grabs 2.0_2.1
[19:55] <micahg> gnomefreak: it needs to be moved in package, fta fixed it in ff.head branches
[19:56] <micahg> gnomefreak: sorry too terse
[19:56] <gnomefreak> if he uses my branch ad does his changes might be easier
[19:56] <asac> idea is to pull that in debian/mozclient/ in sm package
[19:56] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[19:56] <micahg> gnomefreak: 1.  it needs to be moved in package, 2 (separate) the fix is similar to what fta did to ff3.5 and up in .head
[19:57] <asac> i think tbird is better to copy it from
[19:57]  * gnomefreak didnt know about the changes to .head
[19:57] <asac> both use comm-central approach
[19:57] <gnomefreak> asac: doesnt ff use comm-central as well?
[19:57] <gnomefreak> i am 99% sure sunbird does
[19:57] <micahg> gnomefreak: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird-3.0.head/revision/137
[19:58] <gnomefreak> micahg: thanks looking
[19:58] <micahg> gnomefreak: this too: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Emozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird-3.0.head/revision/136
[20:00] <micahg> gnomefreak: ff37 is mozilla-central, comm-central is for the mail based apps (tb, sm, sunbird)
[20:00] <gnomefreak> that is a big change however it looks fairly generic for the 1.9.1 branch at least
[20:00] <gnomefreak> micahg: ah ok
[20:01] <gnomefreak> oh i see why the change. it is now using the *.sh script instead of using *.conf
[20:03] <gnomefreak> micahg: if you look at the revision to debian/mozclient/thunderbird-3.0.conf. line 25 (before changes) it uses | cut -d'"' -f3,7`;  is the f3.7 refering to firefox-3.7?
[20:04] <micahg> gnomefreak: no, that should be fields 3 and 7 :)
[20:04] <micahg> s/should be/is
[20:04] <gnomefreak> ah makes more sense that way :)
[20:05] <gnomefreak> IIRC Sm2 == 1.9.1 branch right?
[20:05] <micahg> gnomefreak: SM2.0 is 1.9.1
[20:05]  * micahg thinks comm-central is 1.9.2 right now
[20:05] <gnomefreak> yeah thought so. the script that was written is echoing 1.9.2
[20:06] <gnomefreak> SM has always been 1 release behind as i recall
[20:06] <gnomefreak> 1 release refering to xulrunner
[20:06] <micahg> well, once comm-central branches again, I think it'll catch up, but I don't know when ;)
[20:07] <micahg> although moz-central might branch for 3.7 by then
[20:07] <gnomefreak> well 2.1 should be on 1.9.2
[20:07] <micahg> idk
[20:07] <micahg> yes, along with tb3,1
[20:07] <gnomefreak> Mozilla keeps changing things its hard to guess when anything will happen
[20:08]  * gnomefreak goes for smoke while tb works
[20:10] <micahg> gnomefreak: BTW, I asked for some PPA bugs to be reported in LP
[20:10] <micahg> specifically for TB3.0 and FF3.6
[20:11] <micahg> so we can get the bugs fixed before they're released to everyone
[20:13] <gnomefreak> now you tell me ;)
[20:13] <micahg> heh, sorry, I've been meaning to discuss it as a group, it's not blanket, I've just suggested to a few people
[20:14] <gnomefreak> micahg: ok thats fine with me just lets make sure all PPA bugs have upstream bug attached to it when it is reported
[20:14] <gnomefreak> if i see the bugs i closed with PPA i will reopen if you didnt already
[20:15] <micahg> I jsut reopened one
[20:15] <gnomefreak> k
[20:16] <micahg> we discussed have certain PPA bugs in LP in the -bugcontrol meeting, so it was up to the individual teams if they wanted them
[20:17]  * gnomefreak keeps missing meetings
[20:18]  * micahg thinks we need a mozillateam meeting :)
[20:19] <gnomefreak> would be a good idea since so much has changed since last meeting :)
[20:29] <gnomefreak> asac: fta how does that sound? (the meeting idea) ^^^
[20:30] <gnomefreak> also if anyone knows of a way to pause "top" for a screenshot please let me know
[20:33] <micahg> gnomefreak: CTRL-C ?
[20:34] <gnomefreak> micahg: i thought it cleared the top info  using that but i will check when im done with killing processes and email thanks
[20:34] <micahg> for me in xterm q or CTRL-C both still show top
[20:35] <gnomefreak> micahg: it works thanks
[20:35] <gnomefreak> g-terminal works too
[20:36] <gnomefreak> firegpg and flashgot should have no issues getting them from debian right?
[20:39]  * gnomefreak wonders what the big deal is of bradley moving back to Debian
[20:41] <fta> ctrl S, then ctrl Q to unfreeze
[20:43] <gnomefreak> fta: for top?
[20:43] <fta> for everything in a shell
[20:43] <gnomefreak> thanks that works great :)
[21:10] <gnomefreak> micahg: i sent out email about a meeting :)
[21:10] <gnomefreak> to mailing list
[21:12] <gnomefreak> ok while updating im going to grab something to eat. be back soon
[21:14] <fta> damn, vdpau is broken in lucid
[22:05] <BUGabundo> fta: pong
[22:06] <BUGabundo> (10:06:42 PM) bjsnider: BUGabundo, you meant he chrome issue? i are 64 bits yes i are
[22:07] <fta> you am :)
[22:08] <fta> BUGabundo, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=32436
[22:09] <BUGabundo> fixed... 2h ago
[22:09] <BUGabundo> so tomorrow build ?
[22:09] <fta> BUGabundo, supposedly fixed by r36625, the ppa has 4.0.303.0~svn20100120r36627
[22:10] <fta> please upgrade and retry
[22:10] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 4.0.303.0~svn20100120r36627-0ubuntu1~ucd1
[22:10] <BUGabundo> SNAPS
[22:10] <BUGabundo> damnt it
[22:11] <BUGabundo> restart Ch
[22:11] <BUGabundo> restart did it
[22:11] <BUGabundo> fixed for me
[22:12] <fta> good
[22:12] <BUGabundo> should I comment on the bug ?
[22:13] <BUGabundo> thanks for looking for it fta
[22:13] <fta> no need to comment
[22:15] <fta> no i need to understand with vpdau is broken in lucid
[22:15] <fta> now
[22:15] <fta> -with+why
[22:15] <fta> grrr
[22:16] <BUGabundo> its not
[22:16] <fta> [vdpau] Error when calling vdp_device_create_x11: 1
[22:16] <fta> Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[22:24] <asac> !test
[22:25] <fta> same after a reboot on the new kernel :(
[22:26] <BUGabundo> .32 ?
[22:26] <BUGabundo> forget.. no nvidia in .33
[22:27] <fta> 32-11
[22:28] <BUGabundo> Linux BluBUG 2.6.32-10-generic #14-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 7 17:38:08 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:28] <BUGabundo> but my card is crypled
[22:28] <BUGabundo> so I don't have vdpau
[22:31] <fta> hm
[22:40] <fta> seems to be a problem with /usr/lib/libvdpau_nvidia.so vs /usr/lib/nvidia-current/vdpau/libvdpau_nvidia.so
[22:40] <fta> one is 185.18.36, the other is 190.53
[22:50] <fta> most probably this: update-alternatives: warning: skip creation of /usr/lib32/vdpau/libvdpau_nvidia.so.1 because associated file /usr/lib32/nvidia-current/vdpau/libvdpau_nvidia.so.1 (of link group gl_conf) doesn't exist.
[23:03] <fta> bug 510390
[23:03]  * BUGabundo shrugs
[23:05] <fta> so fixed for me, lost 45min, an episode :P
[23:05] <BUGabundo> ?
[23:06] <fta> read my bug, i provide the workaround at the end
[23:06] <BUGabundo> heh
[23:06] <jcastro> fta: confirming
[23:07] <fta> good
[23:08] <jcastro> hey speaking of vdpau
[23:08] <jcastro> did I ever ask you about having the chromium ffmpeg use vdpau?
[23:09] <fta> you did, and my answer was that it's not there yet. i can re-ask
[23:09] <jcastro> oh, I was just wondering
[23:10] <jcastro> it's all a blur
[23:24] <fta> jcastro, <awong> fta: yeah...vdpau support is not trivial at all.  There's at least 4 different people trying to work on trying to get some sort of hardware compositing support into chromium.  Before that work is finished. vdpau support in ffmpeg would likely buy us very little.
[23:29] <fta> jcastro, http://code.google.com/p/chromium-os/issues/detail?id=926  (chromium OS), then follow the blocked-on bugs :P
[23:35] <jcastro> aha, thanks for the bug, I will star
[23:35] <jcastro> <3


[22:42] <Blue12> nice
[22:42] <Beldar> Blue12, Yeah sudo apt-get install cairo-dock
[22:43] <Blue12> Beldar: thanks - yup it is in the repo - yeah - I will have to give that a try -- thank you!
[22:43] <Beldar> Blue12, NO problem, it actually makes a cairo-desktop I never use it though.
[22:43] <sl33k_> What is port forwarding and how to do it on my box?
[22:44] <Seveas> sl33k_: if you don't know what it is, how do you know you want it?
[22:44] <Beldar> google foo google foo
[22:51] <alami> hello, i have installed ubuntu 14.04 and with a single user, and now i can't run command with sudo
[22:51] <alami> can any one help?
[22:52] <alami> that's a dangerous bug
[22:52] <Beldar> alami, What happens when you try, details count here.
[22:52] <alami> Beldar: what do you mean?
[22:53] <Beldar> alami, " i can't run command with sudo" What happens when you try
[22:53] <alami> alami is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[22:53] <Beldar> alami, YOu remove the original account, or in the guest?
[22:53] <alami> Beldar: i havn't do anything
[22:54] <alami> that's ny second restart of a new installtion
[22:54] <trndr> alami, if you are the only user and always have been, then you should most defenatly be in sudoers
[22:55] <Beldar> alami, Not sure how this is a bug or dangerous. Have you tried checking the sum of the download, and are you familiar with the OS?
[22:55] <Seveas> trndr: run this command and paste the output: id
[22:55] <alami> trndr: i know what you say, but that's a bug
[22:55] <rdz> Seveas, ok.. i get it now.. gsettings is always outputting something, and if there is no ~/.config/dconf it'll output default values
[22:56] <alami> Beldar: i'm familia with ubuntu, and i  have installed from the same media, and befor was everything just good
[22:56] <Seveas> alami: run this command and paste the output: id
[22:56] <alami> uid=1000(alami) gid=1000(alami) groups=1000(alami),125(vboxusers)
[22:56] <Beldar> alami, If the same media, than how is this a bug, this a magical bug?
[22:57] <Seveas> alami: you screwed it up yourself
[22:57] <Beldar> exactly
[22:57] <Seveas> by removing yourself from the admins group or deleting that group.
[22:57] <Seveas> you also removed yourself from quite a few more groups, limiting what you can do even further
[22:58] <alami> Seveas: so do you think, booting with installation media, and add my user to the admin group will help?
[22:58] <alami> or how can repaire this?
[22:58] <Seveas> alami: reboot into recovery mode and re-add yourself to the sudo, adm, cdrom, dip, plugdev and ldapdmin group.
[22:59] <Seveas> and stop crying about bugs when you screw things up yourself.
[22:59] <alami> Seveas: is that all ? sudo, adm, cdrom, dip, plugdev and ldapdmin
[22:59] <Seveas> that's the groups I'm in, and I'm on a fairly new install
[23:00] <alami> Seveas:i think i have run useradd wrong
[23:00] <Seveas> alami: no. useradd doesn't remove you from groups.
[23:00] <SameDay> quit
[23:01] <human_being> Hey, anyone from Latvia ? Its a specific question about latvian language keyboard layout ??
[23:01] <Seveas> !lv
[23:02] <Seveas> human_being: try #ubuntu-lv
[23:02] <human_being> ok
[23:02] <human_being> thanks
[23:03] <alami> Seveas: http://pastie.org/9200589 can you tell me wich one was wrong here?
[23:03] <Seveas> alami: the usermod commands
[23:04] <alami> Seveas: ahh okay thanks
[23:04] <Seveas> you removed all secondary groups and added only 'vboxusers' back. To add only a single group: gpasswd -a user_here group_here
[23:18] <pixelkong> holaa!
[23:22] <human_being> Which IRC client are you guys using ?
[23:22] <SameDay> weechat..
[23:22] <Avon> ^
[23:22] <SameDay> Well, I just went back to it.
[23:29] <meccooll> what's the best desktop environment for dual screens? Can't get unity to load at all and LXDE is kinda buggy
[23:30] <oni7> testing
[23:30] <alami> hello, i cant change /etc/group in recovery mode , or either with live cd
[23:31] <dw1> alami: in recovery you may need to remount read/write.  on live cd you would need to mount the filesystem
[23:32] <alami> dw1 i have mouthed the file szstem
[23:32] <oni7> how do i go about mounting a windows file system within a live cd
[23:32] <alami> i can read the file
[23:33] <dw1> alami: in reovery mode it would be mount -o remount,rw /
[23:33] <alami> dw1: im now on live cd
[23:33] <dw1> alami: make sure its mounted rw
[23:36] <jeffrey3234> what would be the equivelant of "rpm --query --info logwatch" on ubuntu?
[23:36] <dw1> sudo apt-cache search <package> maybe
[23:36] <dw1> whats the other one
[23:36] <jeffrey3234> its shows all files that have been added to the system
[23:36] <Seveas> jeffrey3234: apt-cache show
[23:37] <jeffrey3234> inculuding conf files
[23:37] <dw1> sudo apt-cache show php5
[23:37] <dw1> wups wrong window :p
[23:37] <oni7> Can I delete a win7 admin password file by mounting the file system in a live cd? Spining up a vm to test this but if its no doable save me some time and say so
[23:37] <jeffrey3234> thanks
[23:37] <Seveas> and for files: dpkg -L pkgnanme_here
[23:38] <dw1> oni7: probably with the right tool
[23:38] <oni7> I am thinking without the right tool like by hand
[23:38] <oni7> I have the tools but want to learn to do it if all i have is a random live cd
[23:39] <dw1> you can always download the right tool from a live cd
[23:40] <dw1> most likely
[23:40] <dw1> oni7: http://www.slashgeek.net/2012/06/09/reset-windows-password-with-linux-in-under-5-minutes/
[23:41] <oni7> thanks ill take a look at that
[23:41] <CharlesIC> HELP
[23:41] <cowboykitty> oni7: the correct tool is on the ubuntu  live disk - chntpw
[23:41] <CharlesIC> http://pidgin.im/pipermail/support/2013-January/026238.html
[23:41] <CharlesIC> im having this problem
[23:41] <CharlesIC> missing pidgin icon, but the fix here didn't fix it
[23:42] <Scunizi> Hey.. did the latest update break Java in Chrome stable? Yesterday it was working today it's not.. I'm running 12.04
[23:43] <alami> dw1,  sudo mount -t hfsplus -o rw,remount -force /dev/sda1 /media/untitled dosnt help
[23:46] <Allen> Hello.
[23:47] <Allen> I have noticed one glaring weakness in using a VPN...
[23:47] <Allen> If the VPN is supplied by company V, we'll say...
[23:48] <Allen> And if, unbeknownst to the users of company Vs VPN, company V is not entirely trustworthy...
[23:48] <oni7> ^ who has not noticed ths
[23:48] <oni7> this
[23:48] <OerHeks> Allan how is this related to ubuntu support? join #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat  sm conspiracys
[23:48] <alami>  sudo mount -t hfsplus -o rw,remount -force /dev/sda1 /media/untitled dosnt help
[23:48] <Seveas> where's my tinfoil hat?
[23:49] <oni7> if you use someones VPN to do something bad they are going to rat you out
[23:49] <OerHeks> alami, hfsplus is apple?
[23:49] <oni7> the tinfoil is a lie
[23:49] <cleerline> Hi, I am new here. What would be an appropriate channel to discuss what would be an approritate channel to ask about how to go about open sourcing my game?
[23:49] <Allen> My concern would be that someone would be providing their VPN to snatch sensitive information like bank account information or somesuch...
[23:50] <alami> OerHeks> no i have also try sudo mount -o rw,remount -force /dev/sda1 /media/untitled
[23:50] <alami> but don\t work
[23:50] <alami> mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[23:50] <Seveas> cleerline: come to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[23:50] <alami> and fdisk -l tell me sda1
[23:50] <cleerline> OK, thank you
[23:50] <OerHeks> alami, yes hfsplus is apple.
[23:51] <OerHeks> alami, do not make it rewritable, does not go very well on linux. and win7 hacking password  on apple?
[23:51] <alami> OerHeksi don|t want to hack password i want to change /etc/group
[23:51] <OerHeks> alami, please go to ##windows. this is ubuntu support, thanks.
[23:52] <alami> Seveas. do you know my problem can you help please
[23:52] <Allen> Ok, apologies, folks.  :)
[23:53] <alami> OerHeks, i dont have windows or apple i have ubuntu
[23:53] <alami> and i have mis used usermod command
[23:53] <alami> now i cant do any thing with my user
[23:54] <alami> and i want to repaire it
[23:54] <alami> with live cd
[23:54] <sendak> What dpkg command shows the package a certain file belongs to?
[23:56] <sendak> Sharon Gazi hacked the system.
[23:56] <OerHeks> alami, then what usermod did you do exactly?
[23:57] <SchrodingersScat> sendak: you mean apt-file?
[23:57] <Edison18>  You can find funny videos here. http://bitly.com/1kukJH3
[23:58] <SchrodingersScat> Edison18: I don't like funny videos, nor those who enjoy them.
[23:59] <OerHeks> !ops | Edison18
[23:59] <sendak> SchrodingersScat is back?
[23:59] <SchrodingersScat> sendak: obviously that's not dpkg, but your words made me think you wanted apt-file..


[06:26] <yang> Jutro
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[09:42] <matjaz> ping
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[09:42] <matjaz> pitastrudl, https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/626mch/most_cost_effective_way_of_sharing_10tb_of_content/dfkchji/
[11:41] <CrazyLemon> quite windy today
[12:41] <speed-> is it?
[12:41] <speed-> prinas je prav fajn
[12:59] <CrazyLemon> speed- tam 13km/h z gusti do 20km/h
[13:00] <speed-> lepa :)
[17:06] <CrazyLemon> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e798bf6f19c85905bff2631c8e63f0ef
[17:06] <jabuk> Parsed out compromised hosts from #ShadowBrokers · GitHub
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[21:30] <yang> Evo miljonar se je oglasil
[21:30] <yang> https://news.slashdot.org/story/17/04/09/1829209/canonical-founder-criticizes-free-software-developers-who-hate-on-whatevers-mainstream
[21:30] <jabuk> Canonical Founder Criticizes Free Software Developers Who 'Hate On Whatever's Mainstream' - Slashdot
[21:30] <jabuk> Canonical Founder Mark Shuttleworth said Saturday that "I came to be disgusted with the hate" on Canonical's display server Mir, saying it "changed my opinion of the free software community."After announcing his company was abandoning Unity for GNOME, Shuttleworth posted a gracious thank-you note ...


[04:30] <Sp133n> anyone know where I can find the checksum for edubuntu 9.10?
[04:38] <sbalneav> For which, the iso?
[04:39] <sbalneav> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/9.10/release/
[04:39] <sbalneav> MD5sums is at the top
[14:50] <sbalneav> Morning all
[14:51] <dgroos> Good Morn.
[14:51] <dgroos> Chilly 'up north'?
[15:00] <sbalneav> Only -10 at the moment
[15:01] <sbalneav> balmy weather for this time of year
[15:12] <dgroos> is that Fahrenheit or Celsius?
[15:16] <mhall119> it's 50F here
[15:17] <mhall119> so 10C, according to the google
[15:18] <sbalneav> C
[15:29] <dgroos> mhall119: You're in US/Florida?
[15:30] <dgroos> In my yard here in US/Minnesota it's also -10º C or 16º F.
[15:48] <dgroos> An interesting feature of an irc app would be to plot current chat-room members' locations on a google map based on their ip.  So, click on a button and it takes you to a world map showing from where people are logging in.  Maybe some might not like to share that info, though.
[15:52] <mhall119> dgroos: yup
[15:52] <mhall119> we're all freezing
[15:52] <mhall119> dgroos: can probably be done with a bot
[15:57] <dgroos> mhall119: cool. someday I may look into that.
[15:59] <pleia2> I think it'd would be wrong too often to be very useful
[15:59] <pleia2> I come in to IRC from a server in Texas, but I'm frequently in Pennsylvania these days
[16:01] <mhall119> someone in the florida loco goes through a russian proxy
[16:01] <mhall119> so yeah, it may not work so well
[16:01] <mhall119> maybe a LP lookup would be more accurate
[16:02] <dgroos> Ah, right, proxies.  What's an LP lookup?
[18:11] <mhall119> dgroos: Launchpad lookup
[18:12] <mhall119> since so many people have their IRC nick listed, and also have their correct location entered for google maps already
[18:14] <highvolt1ge> ,wub 13
[18:15] <highvolt1ge> oops
[18:17] <mhall119> irssi?
[18:31] <highvolt1ge> mhall119: yep
[19:53] <livingtochill> any teachers here?
[20:03] <alkisg> livingtochill: yup
[20:03] <livingtochill> woohoo
[20:03] <livingtochill> do you use edubunut?
[20:03] <livingtochill> tu?
[20:03] <alkisg> Heh, I never get that reaction from my students :P :D
[20:04] <livingtochill> me neither.  what do you teach?  I teach 6-8 grade ESL in Memphis, Tennessee.  Home of Elvis.
[20:04] <alkisg> I'm a teacher using ubuntu/ltsp and of course educational apps, but not edubuntu per se (too childish interfaces for my students :()
[20:04] <livingtochill> i use xubuntu
[20:04] <livingtochill> using lxde as my windows manager
[20:04] <livingtochill> but i like the xfce apps
[20:04] <alkisg> The last 3 years I taught at 12-15 y.o. kids, this year at 15-18 yo
[20:04] <livingtochill> do you use italc?
[20:04] <alkisg> Sure, a lot
[20:05] <livingtochill> I can't make it work, for some reason.
[20:05] <livingtochill> My host machine never works.
[20:05] <alkisg> LTSP or standalone computers?
[20:05] <livingtochill> standalone
[20:05] <alkisg> Did you copy the keys from the server to the clients?
[20:05] <livingtochill> think so.  i haven't worked on it in a good minute.
[20:05] <livingtochill> the host program would launch on my netbook
[20:06] <livingtochill> which is the teacher computer
[20:06] <alkisg> Are you there now, to try some commands?
[20:06] <livingtochill> no
[20:06] <alkisg> Do you have a pc to use as a client?
[20:06] <livingtochill> i'm just yacking on an idle sunday.  :)
[20:06] <alkisg> (or even a vbox pc)
[20:06] <livingtochill> I think I'm going to have to get one.
[20:06] <livingtochill> The tech teacher has some old PCs that I've been fixing up for him.
[20:06] <livingtochill> I think I'm going to have to ask for one.
[20:06] <alkisg> Usually the problem is in the key copying/permissions
[20:07] <livingtochill> That's what it kinda felt like.
[20:07] <alkisg> I need to find the time to update the wiki page about this :(
[20:07] <livingtochill> I'm here to farm some ideas.  I'm giving an edupunk-themed presentation on Wednesday
[20:08] <livingtochill> http://midsouthedupunk.wikispaces.com
[20:08] <alkisg> Heh, nice word (edupunk :))
[20:08] <livingtochill> it's not mine
[20:08] <livingtochill> guy named jim groom
[20:08] <livingtochill> it's on wikipedia
[20:09] <livingtochill> (therefore it must be real!)
[20:09] <alkisg> (or they put it there :P :D)
[20:09] <livingtochill> What kind of apps do you use with your students?
[20:10] <livingtochill> Like, the showstopping stuff.
[20:10] <alkisg> Well here (Greece) we have edu* apps from our ministry, so I'm using those
[20:11] <livingtochill> Really?
[20:11] <alkisg> They were windows apps, but I've packaged them into .debs and I've setup an ubuntu repository with them
[20:11] <livingtochill> What do they do?
[20:11] <alkisg> So now I just do sudo apt-get install "secondary-school" and I'm done :D
[20:11] <alkisg> Geography, Chemistry, Mathematics, Informatics etc etc
[20:11] <alkisg> For all the lessons we have an app
[20:12] <livingtochill> oh, those.
[20:12] <livingtochill> not the edubuntu programs, but custom-made greek ones?
[20:12] <alkisg> Yup
[20:12] <livingtochill> Sweet
[20:12] <alkisg> Me, I'm an informatics teacher, so I mostly teach them openoffice, ubuntu usage, web usage, and some kturtle greek variant
[20:13] <livingtochill> have you tried etoys?
[20:13] <livingtochill> from squeakland.org
[20:14] <alkisg> Nope, first time I'm hearing about them. But some teachers here are using http://scratch.mit.edu/
[20:14] <livingtochill> Scratch is built on the same foundation as etoys.
[20:14] <livingtochill> i don't like scratch, personally.
[20:14] <livingtochill> it's all too often used just for animations
[20:15] <alkisg> Hey, those etoys look nice.. do they play nice with Ubuntu?
[20:15] <livingtochill> etoys, on the other hand, is powerful enough to be used to develop games and simulations
[20:15] <livingtochill> quite.  The new version, etoystogo, is splendid
[20:15] <livingtochill> the showcase has lots of cool projects
[20:15] <livingtochill> i've got one on there, too
[20:16] <alkisg> Hey, it's even in the Ubuntu repositories!
[20:16] <livingtochill> that's an older version
[20:17] <livingtochill> or it was last time i checked
[20:17] <livingtochill> see if this works: http://squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=7804
[20:17] <livingtochill> i was getting an error
[20:17] <alkisg> !info etoys lucid
[20:17] <alkisg> !info etoys
[20:18] <livingtochill> squeakland.org has version 4
[20:18] <alkisg> Hmmm 3.0.2177 on the site...
[20:18] <alkisg> ? where?
[20:18] <livingtochill> http://squeakland.org/download/
[20:18] <alkisg> Ah I only saw the older version at the bottom :D
[20:18] <livingtochill> choose the etoys to go version
[20:18] <alkisg> http://squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=7804 => 500 Servlet Exception
[20:18] <livingtochill> etoys ships standard on the olpc computers
[20:19] <livingtochill> bummer
[20:19] <livingtochill> it's a jeopardy-style game
[20:19] <livingtochill> nothing better than a quia.com game, but I made it myself and it's good for standardized test review
[20:19] <livingtochill> I have a tic-tac-toe game,as well
[20:20] <livingtochill> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaCncmnVIAE
[20:21] <alkisg> livingtochill: if people are using this, and Lucid ships with and older package, we could make a version-4 package and put it to the edubuntu ppa...
[20:21] <alkisg> (to be easier to install)
[20:21] <livingtochill> easier = better
[20:21] <livingtochill> the idea of etoys to go, though, is that you don't install it
[20:22] <alkisg> Well the idea of packages is that you get updates :)
[20:22] <livingtochill> it's a bit buggy, though, as to where it stores its files
[20:22] <alkisg> Even the packaged version?
[20:22] <livingtochill> no, the packaged version is cool.
[20:22] <livingtochill> version 4 does a good job at scaling projects across different screen resolutions
[20:22] <livingtochill> as my eeepc has taught me
[20:23] <alkisg> OK, we could package the 4 version then, no problem there...
[20:23]  * alkisg wonders what version debian testing has...
[20:24] <alkisg> Heh, it even has Greek translations! Nice!
[20:24] <livingtochill> it's a nice package
[20:24] <livingtochill> great for school
[20:24] <livingtochill> check out www.waveplace.com
[20:25] <livingtochill> that guy has been teaching etoys to kids in the caribbean
[20:25] <livingtochill> he's got nice tutorial videos
[20:28] <livingtochill> Man, I haven't been on IRC in YEARS.
[20:28] <livingtochill> I was searching and searching for an educators channel, but not enough teachers are technical enough to access this, I guess.
[20:28] <livingtochill> not in the states, at least
[20:34] <alkisg> #edubuntu is also at a low ebb these times... :-/
[20:34] <livingtochill> boo
[20:34] <livingtochill> but true
[20:34] <alkisg> Some years ago many more people were hanging around here... I hope we can make it better again in the future
[20:35] <livingtochill> I wish educators were better about collaborating.
[20:35] <livingtochill> Not even just ubuntu users
[20:35] <alkisg> Right, I know what you mean...
[20:36] <alkisg> I got a forum which is visited regularly by many thousands of Greek informatics teachers
[20:36] <livingtochill> american education is in a sad, sad state
[20:36] <alkisg> Only about 300 of them actually offer content or participate in general :(
[20:36] <livingtochill> but what about math teachers, language arts teachers, science teachers
[20:36] <livingtochill> edupunk is about that, in a way
[20:36] <livingtochill> getting ALL teachers networked
[20:37] <livingtochill> i think everyone just uses twitter
[20:37] <alkisg> Most math, language etc teachers here don't know how to surf the web or join a forum...
[20:37] <livingtochill> but that is so limiting
[20:37] <livingtochill> same here
[20:37] <alkisg> Only the younger teachers are computer literate
[20:37] <livingtochill> but i'm working on that, one teacher at a time
[20:37] <livingtochill> i've put linux into about 10 teachers' classrooms.
[20:38] <livingtochill> replacing their dead computers
[20:38] <livingtochill> and i'm giving this presentation on wednesday
[20:38] <alkisg> Heh, nice, but what about support?
[20:38] <livingtochill> edupunk is also about doing it yourself.  ;)
[20:38] <alkisg> Do they call you when they have problems?
[20:38] <livingtochill> yes, they do
[20:38] <livingtochill> each school has a "technology coordinator" who is supposed to do just that job
[20:38] <livingtochill> unfortunately, ours are stupid
[20:38] <alkisg> I also helped a lot of teachers here to switch to ubuntu/ltsp, so I guess I'm an edupunk too :P
[20:38] <livingtochill> the teachers know this and call me, instead
[20:39] <livingtochill> YOU ROCK!
[20:39] <alkisg> Unfortunately here the informatics teacher has also sysadmin duties :-/
[20:39] <livingtochill> Our informatics teacher (we just call her the computer teacher) is a big fat woman who looks like she's always pregnant and has never heard of linux
[20:39] <alkisg> ...so I'm trying to make a click-and-install remix of edubuntu/ltsp to give to them
[20:40] <livingtochill> ooh
[20:40] <livingtochill> that should be cool
[20:40] <alkisg> I know exactly what a greek computer teacher needs, so I'm trying to offer them that out of the box
[20:41] <livingtochill> what about regular content area teachers?  Do you support them, as well?  Do they have computers in their classrooms?
[20:41] <alkisg> I hope I'll have it ready by Lucid...
[20:42] <alkisg> The 12-y.o. students here were ALL given a netbook by the edu ministry
[20:42] <livingtochill> wow.
[20:42] <alkisg> And they're supposedly being taught 4 lessons with the help of computers
[20:42] <livingtochill> the whole country?
[20:42] <alkisg> Yes
[20:42] <livingtochill> awesome
[20:42] <alkisg> It's the first grade of secondary school
[20:42] <livingtochill> are they theirs to keep for their whole life?
[20:42] <alkisg> Yes.
[20:42] <livingtochill> is this going to happen every year?
[20:43] <alkisg> And we were able to put dual boot windows/linux on its specifications
[20:43] <livingtochill> do the schools have WiFi?
[20:43] <livingtochill> screw that.  save cash and drop Windows.
[20:43] <alkisg> Not yet... some parents were against this
[20:43] <alkisg> It's not up to us :(
[20:43] <livingtochill> the netbooks or the wifi?
[20:43] <alkisg> The wifi
[20:43] <livingtochill> safety issues?
[20:44] <alkisg> Health issues, I imagine...
[20:44] <livingtochill> wow.
[20:44] <livingtochill> is there research backing that up?
[20:44] <alkisg> They hope they'll be able to offer netbooks every year, but I'm not sure they'll be able to do it. Greek economy is a mess, and I don't know if the EU will keep sponsoring it...
[20:45] <livingtochill> Some schools in the states are doing netbooks
[20:45] <alkisg> Nope, parents and media here don't listen to reasearchers a lot :D
[20:45] <livingtochill> but i teach in memphis, which is VERY poor
[20:46] <livingtochill> Have you ever read The Magus by John Fowles?
[20:50] <alkisg> Nope, I'm not much of a books person. I've only read some Stephen King books and the Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy...
[20:51] <livingtochill> it's set in greece and the main character is an englishman teaching english for the british council.  Good read.
[20:52] <livingtochill> not at all relevant to our discussion, but just a cool sidenote.
[20:52] <livingtochill> since the kids will all have netbooks, do you think you'll use moodle or something?
[20:52] <alkisg> Well.... I think it's too "early" for moodle
[20:53] <alkisg> The teachers and the students here are not ready to use it properly
[20:53] <livingtochill> give it time, i guess.  It's a good way to structure online learning, though.
[20:53] <alkisg> I *am* using a blog to give exercises to my students, but I imagine that only a handful of secondary school teachers here do that.
[20:54] <livingtochill> I use a google group.
[20:54] <livingtochill> groups.google.com/group/mrfowles
[20:54] <livingtochill> and we use google docs extensively
[20:54] <livingtochill> it's really fun.  I can give them instant feedback.
[20:55] <alkisg> I'd like to try cooperating with empathy the next time I get a chance
[20:55] <alkisg> Empathy has a "people nearby" function which should be useful
[20:55] <livingtochill> ooh.  i've not used empathy.
[20:56] <alkisg> E.g. send/receive files, messages, remote desktop etc
[20:56] <livingtochill> i switched back to pidgin
[20:56] <alkisg> The students can share URLs... typical IM stuff, but with automatic people discovery
[20:56] <livingtochill> that should be cool
[20:56] <alkisg> ...and I'm trying to make a classroom control app
[20:57] <livingtochill> controlaula and italc not enough?
[20:57] <alkisg> Nope
[20:57] <alkisg> controlaula is too unstable for me, and italc doesn't do enough
[20:57] <livingtochill> what more do you want from italc?
[20:58] <alkisg> E.g. I want to be able to automatically create user accounts, put some bookmarks on them, send them some files, ...
[20:58] <livingtochill> gotcha.
[20:58] <alkisg> ...you know, if a plugin framework is made, I guess tens of plugins would be made
[20:59] <livingtochill> suppose so
[20:59] <alkisg> Have you used controlaula?
[20:59] <livingtochill> tried, but didn't succeed
[20:59] <alkisg> Yup, same here.
[21:00] <alkisg> And it doesn't even uninstall whatever it installs...
[21:00] <alkisg> I had to delete the avahi service it made manually, and lots of other stuff
[21:01] <livingtochill> i didn't really check it that deeply
[21:02] <livingtochill> what do you think it would take to get your older teachers to use technology?
[21:02] <alkisg> Money :P
[21:03] <livingtochill> ah
[21:03] <alkisg> They gave a netbook to whoever teacher offered to teach the students with the netbooks
[21:03] <livingtochill> but without wifi....
[21:03] <alkisg> All teachers, including ones that didn't know anything about computers, offered to do so :)
[21:04] <livingtochill> for the free computer, no doubt
[21:04] <alkisg> It's difficult to persuade a 50 y.o. teacher to change his teaching habbits
[21:04] <livingtochill> some would argue that it is necessary to do just that
[21:05] <livingtochill> in the states, we have this sense that we are going straight to hell in a handbasket and it's largely the fault of the teachers
[21:05] <livingtochill> We have many good teachers, young and old.  Same with bad.
[21:05] <alkisg> Really? I thought the states had a pretty good education system...
[21:05] <alkisg> (after finland :) but still, good enough...)
[21:05] <livingtochill> We have good universities.
[21:06] <livingtochill> Our urban schools are pretty bad.
[21:06] <livingtochill> Many are extremely violent.
[21:06] <alkisg> Ouch
[21:06] <livingtochill> my girlfriend works at a school that is nicknamed "little iraq"
[21:07] <livingtochill> Chicago is a hellhole: http://www.catalyst-chicago.org/notebook/index.php/entry/412/Violence_on_the_rise_inside_Chicago_high_schools
[21:07] <alkisg> The worse thing here is that we have some private "schools" called "frontisteria", where students go to learn only the lessons that they are examined in, when they want to be accepted to univercities,
[21:08] <livingtochill> no extra classes?
[21:08] <alkisg> so the students don't pay attention at all at the regular school, because they think they'll learn all they need from the "frontisteria" at afternoons
[21:09] <alkisg> So for a student it is 7 hours in the morning of regular, obligatory school (=wasted time for him),
[21:09] <livingtochill> eww
[21:09] <alkisg> and 4-5 hours of "frontisteria" in the afternoon (they pay a lot of money there)
[21:09] <livingtochill> are these kids generally from wealthy families?
[21:09] <alkisg> Nope. All students do that in 15-18 age
[21:09] <livingtochill> Korean schools have similar programs, but the kids are rather attentive at both places.
[21:10] <livingtochill> Do they take an English test?
[21:10] <alkisg> They have 2-3 hours of english lessons at regular school, but again, they don't pay attention
[21:11] <alkisg> So they go to "frontisteria" from 10 y.o. to 18 y.o. and get a proficiency in english from there...
[21:11] <livingtochill> interesting
[21:11] <alkisg> (that's in addition to the 4-5 hours of afternoon lessons... :-/)
[21:11] <livingtochill> so the regular schools have to really step up if they're going to reach the kids
[21:11] <alkisg> It's a mess
[21:12] <alkisg> No, we have to change the way the students are admitted to univercities
[21:12] <alkisg> The exams as they are now are a curse
[21:12] <alkisg> But the "frontisteria" teachers oppose to that, because they'll be out of job then
[21:12] <livingtochill> what are they like?  I'm familiar with Polish exams, but none other in Europe.
[21:14] <alkisg> When the students are 18 y.o. they are examined and graded in 4-6 lessons,
[21:14] <alkisg> and then they choose univercities based solely on that grade
[21:14] <livingtochill> not too different from Poland.  A huge exam at the end.
[21:14] <alkisg> So kids from 15 y.o. and up are only thinking about those exams... :-/
[21:14] <livingtochill> do the kids cheat a lot?
[21:14] <alkisg> No, not in those exams
[21:15] <livingtochill> so not like Poland, then.  ;)
[21:15] <alkisg> Heh :D
[21:16] <alkisg> How are students admitted to univercities in the states?
[21:16] <livingtochill> 4 factors,usually
[21:17] <livingtochill> 1.  high school grades
[21:17] <livingtochill> 2.  ACT or SAT score
[21:17] <livingtochill> 3.  Personal experience (volunteering, scouting, or other things like that)
[21:17] <alkisg> Wow
[21:17] <livingtochill> 4.  an essay (for better schools)
[21:17] <livingtochill> the first two are the most important, of course
[21:18] <alkisg> But all the grades are counted, not just the last year's grades, right?
[21:18] <livingtochill> correct
[21:18] <livingtochill> grade point average
[21:18] <alkisg> That's what I'd like to happen to Greece :(
[21:19] <alkisg> This huge exams that we have is destroying everything :(
[21:19] <livingtochill> gotta get running.  good talking to you.
[21:20] <alkisg> Bye!
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[04:04] <zruty> How to file a bug without knowing the package causing the issue?
[04:06] <micahg> zruty: is there a window?
[04:06] <zruty> no
[04:07] <micahg> zruty: ask in #ubuntu-bugs to get some help
[04:07] <zruty> No process (that I know of), no window, no nothing. Just something that does not work (which does work in Win)
[04:07] <zruty> Okay
[05:10] <pitti> Good morning
[05:29] <pitti> dupondje: good morning
[05:29] <pitti> dupondje: any luck getting the cryptsetup split into Debian?
[06:59] <dholbach> good morning
[08:06] <maximilius> Hello & sorry for this. I know DEVEL is not for user support questions. but i really need somebody with a clue to help me troubleshoot this problem.
[08:06] <maximilius> In a Gnome-Terminal i SSH to a remote host and use irssi there. As soon as i launch Rhythmbox, Liferea or if i browse a modern website with Firefox or Chromium i get a slideshow in "irssi" when switching channels e.g. or when typing.
[08:09] <maximilius> the hardware is an AMD64 3200 with 2GB RAM and a GeForce 8400 GS so this box should be able to handle the load, right?
[08:12] <maximilius> Ubuntu 10.04 11.10 and 12.04 show all this same problem
[08:13] <maximilius> please, how can i get to the source of the problem?
[08:26] <janimo`> @pilot in
[08:30] <jamespage> anyone know if the LP buildd's support inotify?
[08:32] <pitti> jamespage: I don't see why they wouldn't, but I'm not 100% sure
[08:32] <pitti> jamespage: you mean for test suites, etc}
[08:32] <pitti> jamespage: glib uses inotify, and its tests succeed on the builders
[08:33] <jamespage> pitti, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/98985481/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-i386.nodejs_0.6.12~dfsg1-1ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[08:33] <jamespage> its in a PPA builder - not sure whether that makes a difference
[08:34] <jamespage> the test that fails passes in my local sbuild - the feature depends on inotify and the test fails with ENOSYS which would indicate it does not
[08:35] <pitti> jamespage: ah, it's possible that glib falls back to something else if inotify isn't available
[08:36] <jamespage> pitti, I can allow this test to optionally FAIL so I can work around it but would like to know for sure
[09:06] <cjwatson> jamespage: I don't know specifically about inotify, but they do run hardy-era kernels
[09:06] <cjwatson> so it's not usually a surprise to find the odd missing feature
[09:15] <janimo`> dholbach, hi, how can a merge request be taken off the sponsors list? I see no equivalent of the unsubscribe button that bugs have
[09:15] <dholbach> janimo`, you can mark the status of the whole merge proposal as 'work in progress' or 'rejected'
[09:17] <janimo`> dholbach, ok. I only see work in progress as an option. The linked bug has been marked won't fix, but that was not very obvious in the review page until I looked for it explicitly
[09:17] <dholbach> janimo`, in that case please ask in the channel for somebody (TB + other ~ubuntu-branches people) to mark it as rejected
[09:18] <janimo`> dholbach, what about deleting the proposal is that not something usually done?
[09:19] <dholbach> I usually try to keep it around, so the contributor can maybe click on "resubmit"
[09:19] <dholbach> I don't know
[09:19] <dholbach> anyone else ^?
[09:20] <janimo`> dholbach, I find some merges get into the sponsoringl ist when they would better be left as discussion among the various people involved in the package/bug
[09:20] <micahg> I would think to only delete if there's something destructive
[09:20] <dholbach> janimo`, I agree
[09:21] <janimo`> as they are clearly not beginners asking for a non-controversial change
[09:21] <janimo`> dholbach, the reason I tiptoe around most of the time in the sponsoring qa list is many issues seem specific bugfixes better left to the submitter and the de facto maintainer to sort out
[09:22] <dholbach> janimo`, in that cases it might make sense to get in touch with the maintainers and discuss it with them
[09:22] <janimo`> dholbach, well they are subscribed to the specific bugs and attachments  I'd hope
[09:23] <dholbach> you know how sometimes things get lost in big mailboxes
[09:23] <janimo`> does anything with a debdiff attached automatically make it to the list ?
[09:23] <dholbach> I usually ping them or join their IRC channel
[09:23] <dholbach> yes, there's a bot running which adds debdiff bugs to the sponsoring queue
[09:24] <janimo`> cyphermox, I unsubscribed sponsors from 915095 as that is something you've touched before
[09:26] <cjwatson> janimo`: in general one does not delete things from LP
[09:26] <cjwatson> "one does not simply WALK into Mordor"
[09:26] <janimo`> cjohnston, yeah. I wish the button was not that prominent on the side then, it is unclear it is not a good thing to do, solely from the UI
[09:27] <janimo`> cjohnston, sorry for pinging you twice, one of them by accident
[09:37] <pitti> jibel: hm, the lucid-precise-universe upgrade test didn't run today?
[09:37] <pitti> jibel: the at-spi fix is in, so I'm hoping it can resolve the upgrade path better now
[09:38] <pitti> jibel: not a biggie, I can wait until Monday; by then we'll hopefully also have LibO built
[09:42] <jibel> pitti, there was a maintenance in the lab yesterday evening and the slave didn't restart. I'll start the job.
[09:42] <pitti> jibel: ah, thanks
[09:43] <jibel> slave = "jenkins slave" to avoid any confusion
[10:02] <jamespage> larsduesing, want me to take a run at fixing those upstart issues? I have already refactored in the process tracking stuff locally
[10:09] <cjwatson> jelmer: I've done bug 968273 for you, but please note that syncs are now self-service when you have upload permissions to the package in question, which you do: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2012-January/000923.html
[10:11] <janimo`> @pilot out
[10:44] <hrw> are there chances to get http://paste.ubuntu.com/907017/ intergrated into precise? This is fix for debian bug #659588 (which is also present in Ubuntu)
[10:48] <pitti> hrw: yes, absolutely; now that 2.30-2 has hit unstable, it'd be good to merge again anyway
[10:48] <hrw> pitti: so request sync rather then submit patch?
[10:49] <pitti> hrw: I believe we need to merge, we still have some transient delta
[10:49] <hrw> right
[10:49] <pitti> hrw: is there an ubunty counterpart for this bug? if so, pleaes feel free to assign to me
[10:50] <hrw> pitti: Bug #950967
[10:50] <pitti> hrw: thanks, grabbing
[10:50] <hrw> pitti: thx
[10:52] <hrw> pitti: it will unblock lot of packages for cross builds ;)
[11:27] <dupondje> pitti: as told, there will be first a new release in debian with only bugfixes, next upload will be the split
[11:27] <dupondje> but the maintainer is quite buzzy atm, so need to spank him :)
[11:29] <dupondje> slangasek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/874774 could you simulate this? Tried here, but it always mounts the swap just fine :(
[12:10] <mdeslaur> slangasek: think you could milestone a few of the broken openssl bugs? the 1.0.1 upload is breaking a lot of stuff...
[12:17] <jayson_> Hello!  I just wrote a patch for annotate-output to add some features.  Ubuntu's is forked from upstream so sending it there isn't helpful.  It's not a bugfix so opening one wouldn't be right.  Where /should/ I submit it?
[12:21] <dupondje> jayson_: you can open bugreports for new features also :) its not for bugs only.
[12:25] <cjwatson> mdeslaur: I'd welcome suggestions on a fix, since the Debian maintainer doesn't seem to have any immediate bright ideas
[12:26] <cjwatson> admittedly -tls1 does seem to solve all the ones I've seen so I suppose maybe a change of defaults or something ...
[12:26] <jayson_> OK, cool.  Will do.  Thanks!
[12:27] <cjwatson> jayson_: I don't see any Ubuntu-specific changes to annotate-output at the moment, though
[12:28] <mdeslaur> cjwatson: hrm, upstream bug says to disable tls1.2 in the client for now
[12:28] <cjwatson> jayson_: so not sure what you mean by us being forked.  The package as a whole has Ubuntu-specific changes, but that script doesn't
[12:29] <mdeslaur> cjwatson: if there's no better solution before we release, maybe we should do that and fix with a SRU later on once they figure something out
[12:29] <cjwatson> mdeslaur: do you have a reference to the upstream bug, please?
[12:29] <mdeslaur> cjwatson: http://rt.openssl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=2771&user=guest&pass=guest
[12:30] <cjwatson> thanks
[12:31] <cjwatson> I've milestoned it
[12:31] <cjwatson> (bug 956371)
[12:31] <cjwatson> it was already rls-p-tracking but I guess we have to tick all the boxes
[12:31] <cjwatson> err, sorry, bug 965371
[12:34] <jayson_> cjwatson: compare /usr/bin/annotate-output vs http://jeroen.a-eskwadraat.nl/sw/annotate/annotate - the former has options for format strings and --help, the latter does not
[12:34] <mdeslaur> cjwatson: thanks
[12:41] <cjwatson> jayson_: in practice the current upstream for that script is Debian, wherever they originally got it from, and Debian's and Ubuntu's version of that script are identical.
[12:41] <cjwatson> jayson_: what you're seeing is the changes that Debian made since the initial import.
[12:43] <jayson_> Oh, I thought it was originally pulled by Ubuntu, not Debian.  Checked again, you're right!  I'll send the patch to Debian.  Thanks!
[12:49] <Whoopie> seb128: Hi, regarding bug 965279, I'm not sure if the battery status icon should be hidden in all sessions. To my understanding, gnome-shell doesn't use indicator-power, so it needs g-s-d's battery icon.
[12:51] <seb128> Whoopie, gnome-shell has its own shell indicator
[12:52] <seb128> gnome-classic as the indicator
[12:52] <seb128> unity has the indicators
[12:52] <seb128> other desktop don't use gsd
[12:52] <Whoopie> seb128: ok, thanks for the explanation.
[13:46] <smb> cjwatson, Doing some slightly more special iso testing I found some unexpected things happening in the lands of fakeraid and the installer. Somehow I thought that all fakeraid was handled by dmraid (and bug reports seemed to say it works). However we failed to put the right dm module into the udebs without noticing.
[13:49] <smb> The d-i file has dm-raid4-5, unfortunately the modules name is dm-raid45. This probably goes on for a while now. It is probably just hidden by the fact that md(adm) now understands some other meta-data formats, one of them being the Intel Matrix Storage Manager format (which is probably the most widely spread)
[13:53] <smb> Does not seem to completely work on the box I tested as I only get it up read-only and did not yet succeed in making it rw. The question is whether fixing the modules name for udeb (while correct) could have some unexpected results for the installation process. So maybe it would be better delayed till after release to be targetted to a point update...
[13:56] <smb> Daviey, Maybe of interest to you ^ though for server I believe people usually avoid fakeraid usage and go mdraid directly (or hw raid)
[13:57] <cyphermox> janimo`: the patch was incorrect for a variety of reasons though I'm happy to see the process for sponsoring and patching a package was dead on. I updated 915095 accordingly; m-b-p-i tends to be a little special anyway
[13:58] <cjwatson> smb: please go ahead and put the correct module into the udeb
[13:58] <cjwatson> before release
[13:58] <Daviey> smb: Oo, i didn't know md now supported other formats
[13:58] <smb> cjwatson, Ok, will do then
[13:58] <Daviey> smb: I'd rather fakeraid support was removed.. but can't see that happening :)
[13:59] <smb> Daviey, Me neither
[13:59] <janimo`> cyphermox, ok
[14:00] <cyphermox> janimo`: thanks for looking at it :)
[14:01] <janimo`> cyphermox, piloted by it ;)
[14:01] <cyphermox> ah, right
[14:02] <cyphermox> vibhavp: if you want to help writing patches for the 17 or so bugs in m-b-p-i, that would be very cool; then I'll poke upstream to get the patches committed and cut a new snapshot.
[14:05] <vibhavp> cyphermox: sure!
[14:06] <cyphermox> vibhavp: bug 912728 looks very straightforward, needs full triaging and the patch is provided
[14:07] <vibhavp> I need to make debdiffs for them?
[14:07] <cyphermox> well, it's not quite a patch it seems, but fixing that up should be simple enough :)
[14:07] <cyphermox> debdiff, or fix the patch directly as a patch and send it to the upstream bug tracker (GNOME, in the NetworkManager project)
[14:08] <cyphermox> I prefer option 2, since we usually just sync the package from Debian directly
[14:08] <vibhavp> Ill report a bug in the GNOME BTS, right?
[14:08] <cyphermox> yes
[14:08] <vibhavp> alrighty
[14:09] <cyphermox> bonus points if you fix the "patch" included in the LP bug report to make it a real patch to add to the upstream bug :)
[14:09] <vibhavp> Ah, I understood
[14:10] <vibhavp> He copied the entire file
[14:10] <cyphermox> yeah
[14:10] <vibhavp> thats easy
[14:13] <vibhavp> The component will be general, right?
[14:13] <cyphermox> yes
[14:13] <vibhavp> And the version is "0.9.x"
[14:15] <vibhavp> Done, attaching patch
[14:22] <vibhavp> cyphermox: Done
[14:22] <vibhavp> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi
[14:23] <vibhavp> oops :)
[14:23] <vibhavp> cyphermox: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673180
[14:23] <cyphermox> ok
[14:24] <cyphermox> have you also linked the bug report in launchpad? you should be able to add that link via "Also affects project"
[14:24] <vibhavp> done
[14:24] <cyphermox> thanks
[14:24] <vibhavp> next!
[14:25] <cyphermox> vibhavp: yeah, let's just move to pm so as not to disrupt here :)
[14:25] <vibhavp> sure
[14:58] <pitti> doko: hm, should gccgo-4.7 really produce the gcc-4.7-base, fortran, and other packages as well?
[15:07] <doko> pitti: ugh, does it?
[15:08] <pitti> doko: spotted in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue?queue_state=0
[15:08] <pitti> doko: and from apt-cache showsrc gccgo-4.7 | grep ^Binary
[15:08] <doko> pitti: no, will fix it
[15:09] <pitti> doko: thanks
[15:09] <pitti> doko: probably needs another gcc-4.7 upload then, so that the binaries of that have a higher version?
[15:10] <doko> pitti: there is no gcc-4.7 in precise
[15:11] <pitti> doko: oh right; apt-cache showsrc gcc-4.7 actually shows gccgo-4.7, sorry
[15:11] <pitti> doko: so these will/shoudl just become NBS, I figure
[15:12] <doko> yes
[15:13] <pitti> doko: the libraries are a bit more tricky then
[15:13] <pitti> e. g. lib32stdc++6 is currently built by gccgo-4.7
[15:13] <pitti> but ought to be from gcc-4.6
[15:14] <arges> Hello. Trying to apply an upstream patch for 'nss-pam-ldapd', I see that this package is primarily imported from debian and in fact i don't see a debian/patch directory. not sure how to approach a fix for this bug... do i need to submit something to debian first? or  should I create the patch directory in ubuntu?
[15:19] <doko> pitti: wait, is this already in the archive?
[15:19] <SpamapS> @pilot in
[15:19] <pitti> doko: NEW only has the armhf binaries, I didn't check the others
[15:19] <apw> cjwatson, am i right in saying that if you add a machine to the blacklist then linux_gfx_payload=text _and_ we stop supplying handoff ?
[15:19] <pitti> doko: ah, i386/amd64 FTBFSed
[15:20] <pitti> doko: so let me quickly reject the armhf binaries before someone accepts them, ok?
[15:20] <slangasek> mdeslaur: what's "a few"?  The only one on my radar is the TLSv1 autodetection problem; if there are other bugs, could you point them out / set the bug importance?
[15:20] <doko> pitti: yes please
[15:20] <pitti> doko: hang on, it's probably less bad than I thought -- Binary: shows them all, but it seems they are not actually built
[15:20] <pitti> doko: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gccgo-4.7/4.7.0-0ubuntu1/+build/3368176
[15:21] <slangasek> dupondje: no, I haven't ever been able to reproduce that bug yet
[15:21] <pitti> doko: it still has gobjc and fortran, shoudl it?
[15:21] <doko> pitti: no
[15:21] <pitti> doko: ok, rejected
[15:22] <pitti> doko: thanks for looking into it
[15:25] <mdeslaur> slangasek: I duped  one, the others that I thought were dupes look unrelated once I looked at them carefully.
[15:25] <cjwatson> apw: sorry, head in something else right now, is that what the code implies?
[15:26] <apw> cjwatson, s'ok we'll work it out
[15:28] <cjwatson> apw: AFAICS it doesn't delete vt.handoff=7 from the kernel command line in that case, merely doesn't load video modules in GRUB
[15:29] <cjwatson> that was what I interpreted you as arguing should change in our conversation yesterday
[15:29] <apw> cjwatson, that might be counter to what i was expecting ... yeah interestingly this is a second case where handoff is an issue, due to bad drivers; though the jury is out as the testing is not yet done correctly
[15:30] <cjwatson> it's basically the same as yesterday's case
[15:30] <cjwatson> as far as any fix is concerned anyway
[15:32] <apw> cjwatson, concur, any fix would be the same.  either i need to check if you did leave me in graphics mode and ignore handoff if you did not, or grub needs to tell us what it did do
[15:32] <apw> though why its an issue today and not all last cycle i am most confused by
[15:47] <Daviey> didrocks: hola, sphinx/1.1.3+dfsg-2ubuntu1 seemed to lack dh python2 transition, or still depend on python-support.
[15:47] <Daviey> didrocks: it's depwait.
[15:48] <didrocks> Daviey: hey, weird, I built it here IIRC
[15:49] <didrocks> Daviey: I'll have a look if you wish (probably Monday though)
[15:50] <cjwatson> didrocks: your build chroot probably has universe enabled
[15:50] <didrocks> cjwatson: yeah, should be why I didn't spot that
[15:51] <didrocks> anyway, I'll fix it if that can wait on Monday, still some stuff to end before the week-end
[15:52] <Daviey> didrocks: someone might beat you to it :)
[15:52] <slangasek> apw, cjwatson: is there a bug number for that discussion, by chance?  it probably has bearing on half a dozen plymouth bugs, so I'd like to know what's going on :)
[15:53] <didrocks> Daviey: TBH, I won't be upset by that :)
[15:53] <cjwatson> slangasek: I asked apw to file one but haven't checke
[15:53] <cjwatson> d
[15:54] <apw> slangasek, the disucssion was in the context of an ongoing bug with not seeing the encrypted password prompt for an lvm encrypted root setup, in the first instance
[15:54] <apw> slangasek, LP#942846
[15:54] <mpt> ev, bug 794757
[15:55] <apw> slangasek, the new one is not yet a bug as far as i know, its with hwe
[15:55] <ev> mpt: cheers
[15:55] <slangasek> apw: right, is that the "it shows up if you double-tap esc" bug that I kicked your way this week?
[15:55] <slangasek> (bug #966403)
[15:55] <slangasek> or a different one?
[15:56] <apw> slangasek, that would be the same symptoms by the sounds of it.  what graphics do they have ?
[15:56] <slangasek> apw: nouveau
[15:56] <slangasek> but that's booting *with* splash
[15:56] <apw> slangasek, ok so that sounds like what rtg found when he was trying to reproduce it
[15:56] <slangasek> + vt.handoff
[15:57] <slangasek> so my analysis was that this was a behavior change in the nouveau driver since last cycle, because I don't think anything else pertinent has changed that would cause tihs
[15:57] <slangasek> this
[15:57] <apw> slangasek, yeah, i wish i had somethign which reproduced it so i could reproduce it
[15:57] <apw> erm, or something ... all the boxes i have tested just work
[15:58] <slangasek> including nouveau ones?
[15:58] <apw> i have no nvidia kit here, i am waiting on my radeon to install now
[15:58] <slangasek> ok
[15:59] <apw> to try and reproduce this same issue
[15:59] <slangasek> note that radeon and intel by default use the drm interface directly, nouveau is set to use /dev/fb due to historical hangs with multimonitor
[15:59] <slangasek> so to entirely reproduce this you'd have to bodge the driver somehow
[16:00] <apw> slangasek, i wonder if we could switch it over to drm as an experiment
[16:00] <slangasek> there's a plymouth option (Ubuntu specific) to force it
[16:01] <slangasek> so we could ask people to test with that
[16:01] <apw> slangasek, what is that so i can get rtg to test with it also
[16:03] <slangasek> apw: sorry, OTP now - it's obvious from the plymouth source package patches, otherwise I can look it up for you in a second
[16:04] <apw> slangasek, no problem will look
[16:06] <apw> slangasek, plymouth:force-drm
[16:10] <apw> slangasek, ok that didn't help rtg though he was able to use ESC ESC to fix thigns
[16:11] <apw> slangasek, what does plynouth do on esc ... switches back to normal text mode right and back to splash again
[16:14] <slangasek> apw: correct
[16:15] <apw> dammit now the cd writer thing just explodes
[16:17] <jodh> slangasek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/plymouth/+bug/553745/comments/183
[16:21] <cjwatson> coo
[16:22]  * apw is pleased to find brasero still works ... oneone know what the 'CD Writer' thing is called which pops up by default so ic an file a bug ?
[16:24] <bkerensa> audiojack stopped working since B2
[16:24] <bkerensa> :(
[16:36] <hallyn> @pilot in
[16:38] <bkerensa> diwic:  ping
[16:44] <slangasek> jodh: huzzah! \o/
[16:44] <stgraber> jodh: yay! (apparently slangasek and I just saw the same bugmail ;))
[16:52] <jodh> slangasek/stgraber: progress at last!
[16:52]  * jodh heads off to sniff out a cold beer...
[16:53] <slangasek> jodh: though I wish you hadn't merged those bugs, I'm now drowning in bug mail ;)
[17:07] <micahg> cjwatson: if I get board over? the weekend, mind if I upload aptitude
[17:07] <micahg> s/board/bored/
[17:07] <cjwatson> micahg: too late
[17:07] <cjwatson>   Uploading aptitude_0.6.6-1ubuntu1_source.changes: done.
[17:07] <micahg> cjwatson: ooh, good to hear :)
[17:08]  * micahg was seeing the natives getting restless
[17:08] <cjwatson> not that it entirely fixes the multiarch bugs, so I haven't closed the one that's on rls-p-tracking
[17:08] <cjwatson> but at least they won't be getting restless at me :P
[17:10] <slangasek> cjwatson: does it fix it well enough that we should un-track the bug now?
[17:10] <cjwatson> I don't know, I'm not enough of an aptitude user to be qualified to say
[17:11] <cjwatson> (IOW I find its interface incomprehensible anyway and have a hard time saying when it's less incomprehensible)
[17:11] <cjwatson> I've commented on the bug, and given its activity level I expect we'll hear from affected users soon enough
[17:11] <astraljava> Oohh... aptitude having multiarch support?
[17:11] <astraljava> Schweet!
[17:11] <cjwatson> ish, see what I just said
[17:11] <astraljava> Well yeah, but something is better than nothing. :)
[17:20] <raffa50> hello
[17:20] <raffa50> how can i insert a new mime type?
[17:21] <hallyn> ppetraki: cjwatson: lp:~psusi/ubuntu/precise/multipath-tools/fix-dmraid  splits multipath-tools-boot into kpartx-boot for dmraid.  WOuld that require seed changes to not break installs?
[17:21] <hallyn> (since you were just dealing with that...)
[17:21] <raffa50> example: i made an application  (that you can install whit a .deb) that makes a .slyproj file, but the user should open it whit double click
[17:22] <raffa50> (whit double click on .slyproj my application should open)
[17:24] <raffa50> sorry for my bad english i'm italian and i'm making ad IDE
[17:25] <hallyn> raffa50: check the comment at top of /etc/mime.types - i think it's relevant
[17:25] <raffa50> where?
[17:25] <hallyn> (in other words, see the mime-support package, and email that list if you want something added)
[17:25] <hallyn> on your system...
[17:25] <raffa50> ah root dir
[17:25] <hallyn> head -40 /etc/mime.types
[17:26] <hallyn> i'm surprised, i'd have expected an /etc/mime.types.d that gets included from ~/.mimetypes at least
[17:26] <raffa50> .deb can't add my mime type to the user?
[17:26] <hallyn> if the user already exists, yes
[17:26] <raffa50> i made an ide
[17:26] <raffa50> that creates a file
[17:26] <raffa50> whit extension .slyproj
[17:26] <raffa50> ok?
[17:26] <hallyn> yes
[17:27] <raffa50> i want that the user can open it
[17:27] <hallyn> yes
[17:27] <raffa50> whit double clik
[17:27] <hallyn> yes
[17:27] <raffa50> it is possible?
[17:28] <hallyn> as the comment says, you can add the entry to ~/.mime.types
[17:28] <hallyn> all i'm saying is that if you then create a new user after installing tha tpackage, that user won't get that .mime.types automatically
[17:28] <hallyn> i wonder if there is another, file-manager-specific, way
[17:28] <raffa50> not me
[17:28] <raffa50> an user that download
[17:28] <hallyn> raffa50: might ask in #ubuntu-desktop
[17:28] <raffa50> myu program
[17:28] <cjwatson> hallyn: it doesn't need seed changes if there's a dependency.  I haven't checked whether that's so
[17:29] <raffa50> no way!
[17:31] <hallyn> it adds a dep from multipath-tools-boot to the new kpartx-boot, yes
[17:31] <hallyn> thx
[17:34] <jodh> slangasek: yes, sorry. In fact bug 553745 now seems totally unviewable :(
[17:48] <slangasek> jodh: yes, that's also part of why I didn't bother merging the bugs ;)  Good thing you now have all the info you need in order to fix it ;)
[18:25] <smoser> pitti, wonder how valid you think this bug is
[18:25] <smoser> bug 969462
[20:16] <cnd> bdmurray, is it possible to do a search of unmilestoned bugs?
[20:31] <bdmurray> cnd: could you elaborate a bit?
[20:32] <cnd> bdmurray, I can search for all bugs for utouch-grail
[20:32] <cnd> or bugs against specific milestones
[20:32] <cnd> but how do I search for bugs that haven't been milestones
[20:33] <hallyn> @pilot out
[20:34] <bdmurray> cnd: I think you'd have to iterate through all bugs and make sure they don't have a milestone
[20:34] <cnd> ugh
[20:34] <cnd> bdmurray, ok, thanks :)
[21:20] <bkerensa> pitti: Do you by chance know of any updates that got pushed today that could have caused headphones not be sensed or broken alsa?
[21:21] <bkerensa> pitti: I just see you have done some work with those packages and my audio is gone and debugging is not doing a thing for me.
[21:36] <broder> any AAs around willing to accept the mosh backports from binNEW?
[21:38] <hallyn> cyphermox: around?
[21:38] <cyphermox> yes
[21:39] <hallyn> cyphermox: great! :)  I was wondering, on libnl-3-dev vs libnl-dev,
[21:39] <cyphermox> libnl-3-dev is libnl 3.2.3; libnl-dev should be libnl 1.something
[21:39] <hallyn> cyphermox: why /usr/include/libnl/netlink instaed of /usr/include/netlink? is that so both pkgs can be installed?
[21:40] <hallyn> cyphermox: new libvirt just #includes <netlink/msg.h>, so won't build with just libnl-3-dev...
[21:40] <cyphermox> not really, I think upstream just changed it
[21:40] <hallyn> that's not very nice :)
[21:40] <cyphermox> hallyn: should still build, I think libnl-3-dev is supposed to give you the right includedir
[21:40] <hallyn> didn't on my test rig
[21:40] <hallyn> i had to symlink the dir
[21:41] <cyphermox> shouldn't be required, see /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libnl-3.0.pc
[21:41] <cyphermox> I think there may be an issue with cflag paths
[21:42] <cyphermox> actually, come to think of it, I believe I may have an email about this kind of issue from the debian maintainer, let me check
[21:43] <dylan-m> Hey, can anyone give me a hint for when Precise's new desktop background is going to appear?
[21:46] <cyphermox> nevermind, it was for ipvsadm
[21:46] <hallyn> cyphermox: ok, so it *should* "just work"
[21:46] <cyphermox> hallyn: should, but it's not unheard of that projects don't use pkgconfig files :)
[21:47] <hallyn> i would think libvirt does.  it ships its own anyway :)  not that i have any idea how to use those
[21:47] <cyphermox> hallyn: is this failing with what's currently in the archive or are you working on another branch?
[21:48] <hallyn> upstream git definately.  I don't *think* I had a problem with what's in the archive, and at any rate the buildd built one fine last night
[21:48] <cyphermox> hallyn: do you have a branch I could play with, or at least logs from the failure? I'm pretty sure you'd see the issue from the log
[21:48] <cyphermox> (and then looking at Makefile to see what the value for LIBNL_CFLAGS is, if any)
[21:50] <hallyn> cyphermox: I'm afraid not right now.  It's on a box that's shut down atm.  Can I ping you monday after i push it somewhere?
[21:50] <cyphermox> hallyn: certainly. Or I'll mess around with it during the weekend
[21:51] <cyphermox> if it's from git, I'm pretty sure you'll get the same behavior just building directly from the git tree
[21:51] <hallyn> cyphermox: no, they're on libnl1 still, so we have to convert to libnl-3 with some patches from our tree
[21:51] <Darxus> Does precise really not have the Gtk3 perl module, or am I just not finding it?
[21:52] <cyphermox> hallyn: ah, I see
[21:52] <cyphermox> so the libnl-3 patch probably doesn't correctly apply for that new version
[21:52] <hallyn> yeah, that could be.  so it's my fault :)
[21:52] <hallyn> cyphermox: ok, thanks.  That just may give me all the guidance I need :)
[21:52] <hallyn> have a good weekend
[21:53] <cyphermox> hallyn: np. feel free to ping anytime, I'll be home and not far from a computer anyway.
[23:45] <SpamapS> @pilot out


[01:14] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  there is "report a problem with this website" at the bottom of it
[01:14] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  something does look broken
[01:15] <Eickmeyer> xnox: With regards to that bug?
[01:15] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  bah
[01:15] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  unping
[01:15] <Eickmeyer> xnox: hehe
[01:15] <xnox> mparillo:  there is "report a problem with this website" at the bottom of it
[01:15] <xnox> mparillo:  and it does look odd
[01:22] <mparillo> Sorry for not noticing that link at the bottom. And thanks for verifying, so I opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1868413
[01:23] <mparillo> Ahh, not found because I marked it as a security bug.
[02:22] <xnox> mparillo:  i do not believe it is security bug
[02:22] <xnox> my browser, in debug console says:
[02:22] <xnox> 205172
[02:22] <xnox> bah
[02:22] <xnox> Mixed Content: The page at 'https://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/' was loaded over HTTPS, but requested an insecure script 'http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/sites/default/files/js/js_VaTlC5jNdxR2e4HzWsuiV1jhDftON6pzITcrr9IQmXA.js'. This request has been blocked; the content must be served over HTTPS.
[02:23] <xnox> meaning, absolute urls are used for loading js, instead of relative, thus https is not used for js
[09:58] <mparillo> And that script is used to access the CSS which is on HTTP. Security team considers this Medium, Triaged.
[09:58] <mparillo> Thank you for your help.
[14:05] <bluesabre> Hello Release Team! I just submitted a pair of UIFe for Xubuntu's themes that require no changes to documentation or translations. Would you mind acking https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/elementary-xfce/+bug/1868457 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/greybird-gtk-theme/+bug/1868459 ? Thanks a bunch.
[17:30] <stgraber> would appreciate someone on ubuntu-release reviewing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxcfs/+bug/1867541
[17:30] <stgraber> we have 4.0.1 released now and would be ready to upload something early in the week
[17:31] <stgraber> also, if an ubuntu-archive member wouldn't mind reviewing that lxd-agent-loader package that's been sitting in New for the past 6 weeks or so, that'd be neat :)
[18:19] <oibaf> Also suggesting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pdfarranger/+bug/1867549
[18:20] <oibaf> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/warzone2100/+bug/1867552
[18:20] <oibaf> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ipset/+bug/1867551
[18:34] <LocutusOfBorg> oibaf, the pdfarranger is syncd
[18:34] <LocutusOfBorg> for ipset, please get in touch with seb128
[18:34] <LocutusOfBorg> and warzone... meh it needs a RT member
[19:36] <Eickmeyer> Can I please get some traction on bug 1868280? It's a simple theme update with no changes to documentation or translations. Just needs a simple Ack. teward and I can handle the rest.
[19:36] <teward> *was pinged*
[19:37] <Eickmeyer> teward: Didn't even know you were awake (yet).
[19:37] <teward> if no exception freezes are affected here we can JFDI but wasn't sure if it needed a UIFe
[19:37] <teward> been up all day Eickmeyer lol
[19:37] <Eickmeyer> teward: Hydration does wonders. ;)
[19:39] <Eickmeyer> teward: Considering it allows for compatiblity with gnome-shell, I really *want* to JFDI, but some clarification on whether or not it needs a UIFe would be nice.
[19:39] <teward> yep
[21:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lxd-agent-loader [source] (focal-proposed) [0.1]
[21:15] <cjwatson> stgraber: done.  you might want to subscribe to bug mail about it
[21:16] <stgraber> cjwatson: will do, thanks!
[21:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: lxd-agent-loader [amd64] (focal-proposed/none) [0.1] (no packageset)
[21:17] <cjwatson> stgraber: (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxd-agent-loader/+bug/1868496)
[21:19] <stgraber> cjwatson: ah yeah, I was wondering about that. Technically those units are copy/pasted from driver_qemu.go in the upstream LXD repo, so we'll typically be doing changes in the upstream LXD repo before putting the same change in the package.
[21:19] <cjwatson> stgraber: Ah.  Maybe a Comment field to clarify that then.
[21:20] <stgraber> yeah, will do
[21:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lxd-agent-loader [amd64] (focal-proposed) [0.1]
[21:48] <oibaf> LocutusOfBorg : grazie, all 3 packages are synced (strange I didn't get mail notifications), if possible please also sync this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pikepdf/+bug/1867504