[00:00] <kaitos> just figured that would be abstracted out to phonon, but telepathy itself probably depends on gstreamer
[00:01] <ZeroKewl> im trying to start a irc server and cant get Unreal3.2to install
[00:02] <mertle> ZeroKewl: is it from source? - or a deb? -is there a readme?
[00:03] <ZeroKewl> i got it off the Unreal web site
[00:03] <ZeroKewl> it has a read me file
[00:03] <ZeroKewl> and  i went by it but no luck
[00:04] <mertle> ZeroKewl: can you paste the readme ?
[00:04] <mertle> !paste | ZeroKewl
[00:04] <ZeroKewl> yeah hold on
[00:08] <ZeroKewl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/412333/ mertle there
[00:08] <mertle> k
[00:10] <mertle> ZeroKewl: online: www.unrealircd.com/unreal32docs.html - is where you need to go - it seems it isn't a straightforward ./configure make make install job
[00:11] <ZeroKewl> is there another server i could use thats work with ubuntu besudes unreal
[00:12] <mertle> ZeroKewl: ubuntu makes its' own server editions if that's what you want...
[00:12] <mertle> !sever
[00:13] <mertle> !server
[00:13] <ZeroKewl> yeah i know that
[00:13] <ZeroKewl> but im looking to make an irc server
[00:13] <ZeroKewl> dont the whole system to be server base
[00:14] <mertle> ZeroKewl: irc servers I know nothing about - maybe someone else does?
[00:15] <markit> a daemon / message is asking me if I want to install flash, video or mp3 codecs. What should I run to have it displayed again if I say "no" now?
[00:15] <markit> (and then change my mind)
[00:17] <mertle> markit: what did you do to get it the first time?
[00:18] <iconmefisto> markit: do you just want to display it again? or install flash and codecs, etc?
[00:19] <markit> mertle: has shown automatically
[00:19] <markit> iconmefisto: display again
[00:19] <markit> I could say "don't ask again", then in 2 weeks time I could change my mind, but I've no clue how make it appear again
[00:20] <iconmefisto> what triggered the message? a browser starting?
[00:20] <markit> is in the systray, a deamon I guess
[00:20] <markit> or maybe there is simply a "meta package" for it that I could aptitude install?
[00:20] <iconmefisto> those messages come up when a program starts
[00:21] <mertle> right click and select properties maybe
[00:21] <markit> I login, do my business, then I notice some messages on the right, and one of them is this one
[00:21] <iconmefisto> markit: to install those things: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:22] <markit> iconmefisto: and it brings to me proprietary (=evil!) flash driver + k3b codecs + mp3 codecs + video codecs?
[00:23] <iconmefisto> markit: right
[00:23] <markit> "this does not install libdvdcss2, and will not let you play encrypted DVDs"
[00:23] <markit> iconmefisto: you are right at 80% :)
[00:24] <mertle> encrypted DVDs=evil!
[00:24] <markit> mertle: lol, I agree
[00:24] <iconmefisto> so use holy open source
[00:24] <mertle> or is that holey open source?
[00:25] <markit> iconmefisto: yes, all the above is Free Software except flash player
[00:25] <iconmefisto> or wholly
[00:25] <mertle> mp3 isn't free
[00:25] <markit> mertle: mp3 is PATENTED, but the software to codec/deconde in GNU linux is Free Software
[00:25] <mertle> k
[00:25] <mertle> :)
[00:25] <markit> if US has sw patent madness is not my foult ;)
[00:25] <iconmefisto> markit: the mp3 and video codecs are not opensource
[00:26] <markit> iconmefisto: ubuntu does not provide the Free ones?
[00:26] <iconmefisto> markit: free what?
[00:27] <markit> iconmefisto: maybe you are confused about the license of the sowftware vs the restrictive law (in certain country) about the freedom of code/decode certain formats
[00:28] <markit> libdvdcss2 IS Free software, but you are not free to decode encrypted dvd in some countries, for instance
[00:28] <iconmefisto> markit: I'm not confused. I just don't know what you asked me. ubuntu does not provide the free... what? codecs?
[00:28] <markit> yes, codecs
[00:28] <markit> you stated that mp3 and video codecs are not "open source"
[00:28] <mertle> back to the point in question if you decline the prompt now markit  you can install the restricted extras later
[00:29] <markit> mertle: yes, but a) some is not included (libdvdcss2 for instance) and b) I can't check what install and what not (i.e. flash proprietary program)
[00:29] <markit> mertle: so a) thanks for the tip about that meta package I was not aware of
[00:30] <mertle> markit: then choose to install from the prompt then
[00:30] <markit> b) do you know how to make that precise popup appear again?
[00:30] <iconmefisto> markit: libdvdcss2 would not be installed with that message dialog anyway
[00:30] <markit> mertle: ok for libdvdcss2, just wondering if other are missing also
[00:30] <markit> iconmefisto: ah, I see
[00:30] <mertle> markit: that is why I asked what you did to get it in the first place
[00:31] <iconmefisto> markit: if you want libdvdcss2, medibuntu is probably the easy way to get it
[00:31] <mertle> markit: that prompt normally comes when trying to play an unsupported format
[00:31] <markit> mertle: unfortunatly I've no idea, it just "pops up"
[00:31] <mertle> k
[00:31] <iconmefisto> markit: those messages pop up the first time you run a program that commonly uses those codecs
[00:32] <markit> mertle: is a "just installed" system, probably is some deamon related to the completion of the installation
[00:32] <mertle> markit: now that you know it will install the kubuntu-restricted-extras it isn't an issue :)
[00:32] <mertle> thnx to iconmefisto for that :)
[00:32] <iconmefisto> markit: my guess is it's a config file setting, like FirstRun=no or something
[00:32] <markit> mertle: well, you have solved my problem at 99%, I'm just a perfectionist and wondering what program is that that makes that pop :)
[00:33] <markit> iconmefisto: I see
[00:33] <markit> well, thanks a lot for your help
[00:33] <mertle> markit: luck :)
[01:07] <fero> I have D-Link System DWA-140 802.11n Adapter which worked in jaunty, linux 2.6.28-18, module rt2x00usb , but does not work in karmic, linux 2.6.31-20, module rt2870sta nor with module rt2x00usb . Anyone can help me pls ?
[01:37] <Scunizi> When accessing a work site designed for FireFox it says it also requires Java Console .. which FF rejects with the current version (daily build).. Is that because it's the daily build of FF? or another reason?
[01:43] <marco> jgjgj
[01:50] <rainy-day> I have compiz installed in Ubuntu 9.10. What config file picks which WM to run? If I install another WM, how can I switch between them?
[01:50] <iconmefisto> rainy-day: you switch between them at the login screen
[01:51] <rainy-day> iconmefisto: ohh, hmm.. I was hoping for an easier way to switch, without logging out?
[01:51] <iconmefisto> rainy-day: you could start a new session if you don't want to log out
[01:53] <rainy-day> well, before I was doing this: I'd run compiz --replace from command line and when I wanted metacity I'd run metacity --replace. And all my open apps would be managed by the new WM..
[01:53] <iconmefisto> oh, you just want a different window decorator
[01:54] <rainy-day> no, metacity is a window manager, not just a decorator
[01:54] <iconmefisto> and that doesn't work now?
[01:54] <rainy-day> well, I haven't tried yet.. but I think I vaguely remember that at some point it either didn't work or caused some problems
[01:55] <rainy-day> Also.. anyone used ratpoison and "awesome" WMs? Which is better?
[02:00] <seck> how can i create a shotcut of a url. example: www.google.com.mx
[02:01] <seck> on my desktop
[02:25] <Goldfish> Hi there, I'm having trouble getting MoBlock put on my machine. I'm kind of new to Ubuntu and the link I got from the forums is confusing to my simple little mind. Can anyone help me get MoBlock working?
[02:29] <iconmefisto> Goldfish: got a link to that forum post?
[02:29] <Goldfish> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MoBlock#Add%20Repository
[02:29] <Goldfish> That's what the post linked to.
[02:31] <iconmefisto> Goldfish: so have you done any of those commands?
[02:32] <Goldfish> I have run all of those commands in the terminal. Keeps coming back with errors.
[02:32] <Goldfish> The first string is fine, but after I start on the second string (kdesu gedit/etc...) it starts giving me errors.
[02:33] <iconmefisto> you probably don't have gedit if you installed kubuntu. use kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:33] <Goldfish> Awesome! thanks!
[02:34] <Goldfish> gpg: conflicting commands
[02:35] <iconmefisto> what gives that error? the gpg command at the beginning?
[02:46] <silentzow> does anyone ever talk?
[02:47] <mertle> I type occasionally :)
[02:47] <silentzow> i guess that answers my question
[02:48] <mertle> it's not for general chat here - there's kubuntu-offtopic for chitchat
[02:48] <mertle> !topic
[02:49] <silentzow> ty, im new to irc
[03:01] <abubakar> hi how to enable sound in kubuntu 9.10
[03:01] <abubakar> hello
[03:01] <mertle> !sound
[03:20] <abubakar> hi
[03:20] <abubakar> how enable sound in kubuntu9.10
[03:27] <iconmefisto> abubakar: check mixer settings? especially PCM level
[03:31] <abubakar> i have done
[03:31] <abubakar> still now i didnt get sound what i do
[03:32] <abubakar> hello
[03:35] <iconmefisto> systemsettings > multimedia
[03:35] <iconmefisto> select an audio device and click the test button
[03:37] <abubakar> i didnt get after that
[03:37] <iconmefisto> no sound when you click test?
[03:38] <iconmefisto> in konsole: speaker-test -c2 -twav
[03:38] <iconmefisto> does that make any sound?
[03:45] <seck> i cant do a videochat and videocall what is wrong with kopete and pidgin?
[03:47] <abubakar> no man
[03:48] <iconmefisto> abubakar: do you know what soundcard you have?
[03:49] <abubakar> actu allu in my pc i have ubuntu 9.04 and kubuntu9.10 am getting sound in ubuntu
[03:49] <abubakar> i dont know sound card
[03:51] <iconmefisto> abubakar: lshw -c multimedia
[03:51] <seck> someone can helps me?
[03:52] <iconmefisto> abubakar: or this: aplay -l
[03:53] <abubakar> lshw -c multimedia
[03:53] <abubakar> MCP73 High Definition Audio
[03:54] <abubakar> card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]
[03:54] <abubakar>   Subdevices: 0/1
[03:54] <abubakar>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[03:59] <iconmefisto> lsmod | grep snd_hda_intel  <-- does that list anything? if it shows nothing, the driver isn't being loaded
[04:15] <abubakar> http://pastebin.com/2T2MYkVe
[04:15] <abubakar> it shows like this check it
[04:16] <iconmefisto> it seems ok
[04:17] <iconmefisto> abubakar: do you have headphones? do you get sound from headphones?
[04:17] <abubakar> ya i have
[04:17] <abubakar> i didnt get
[04:18] <iconmefisto> no sound from headphones? can you try this with headphones: speaker-test -c2 -twav
[04:18] <Guest91741> sim
[04:18] <abubakar> not yet
[04:19] <Guest91741> poque
[04:19] <abubakar> y like this
[04:19] <Guest91741> nao
[04:20] <iconmefisto> abubakar: this is a laptop, right?
[04:20] <Guest91741> filho da  puta
[04:20] <abubakar> no PC
[04:20] <Guest91741> ara
[04:20] <iconmefisto> oh, ok
[04:20] <Guest91741> mopiu
[04:20] <Guest91741> ikimhy
[04:21] <Guest91741> 12horas
[04:21] <bazhang> !es
[04:21] <abubakar> what i do
[04:21] <bazhang> Guest91741, english here
[04:22] <Guest91741>  poi
[04:22] <iconmefisto> abubakar: I'm out of ideas
[04:22] <abubakar> oh
[04:22] <iconmefisto> !sound | abubakar
[04:22] <Guest91741> hoje
[04:22] <abubakar> my mi have done with these
[04:22] <iconmefisto> abubakar: try those links ^^
[04:23] <bazhang> Guest91741, /join #ubuntu-es
[04:23] <abubakar> i treid
[04:23] <Guest91741> amahla
[04:23] <seck> i need help kopete and pidgin dont kork with videochat and audiocall
[04:24] <Guest91741> gatas
[04:24] <Guest91741> rayanne
[04:26] <Guest91741> belo
[04:26] <bazhang> !es > Guest91741
[04:33] <Guest91741> haio
[04:36] <Guest91741> ok
[04:36] <Guest91741> ok
[04:37] <bazhang> Guest91741, please stop that
[04:37] <Guest91741> ok
[04:40] <seck> bazhang kpete and pidgin doesnt work with videochat whats is wrong?
[04:40] <Guest91741> 22180269
[04:41] <Guest91741> 22180293
[05:04] <seck> why nobody helps me?
[05:53] <RurouniJones> Has ibus stopped working for anyone else in Firefox and Thunderbird since the last update?
[06:35] <navetz> can someone help me speed up eclipse, its so slow its unuseable when I try to do things like tags <div>
[06:43] <luis_> Hello, I wanna know where is located the exe of kate
[06:44] <imbrandon> its in /usr/bin/kate
[06:59] <RurouniJones> luis_: you can use "which kate" in the command line to find the exe, which is a useful command for future reference
[06:59] <luis_> thanks RurouniJones
[07:35] <jason__> whats a good player to play dvd's on?
[07:36] <avihay> navetz: faster computer, more memory, or rewrite eclipse in another language
[07:38] <avihay> and closing and reopening it once in a while can also help
[07:58] <elric_> hey nooby question..
[07:58] <elric_> my usb drive isnt being detected..
[07:58] <elric_> wat can i do?
[08:07] <seck> hi, kopete and pidgin doesnt work with videochat and audiocall what is wrong?
[08:12] <corey_> hi first time using kubuntu 10.04 and my boot splash is not showing at startup... any ideas? thanks
[08:13] <alakoo> corey_: install startup manager and adjust the settings there
[08:14] <corey_> thanks alakoo i'll try that now
[08:23] <ybit> anyone willing to help me solve the not able to send email in kmail issue?
[08:29] <alakoo> ybit: are you able to receive email with that account?
[08:29] <ybit> alakoo: yes
[08:29] <ybit> just can't send
[08:30] <alakoo> oh, then there is likely something wrong with your server configuration or security settings
[08:30] <ybit> i've noticed there's a 'sent mail' folder and nothing is in it, while the email attemped to be sent is in outbox..
[08:30] <ybit> :\
[08:30] <ybit> i wish kmail would tell me what's wrong
[08:31] <ybit> what is this use sendmail?
[08:31] <ybit> i click on it and nothing happens
[08:31] <ybit> i know what send mail is, but how do i know if it's attempting to use sendmail or not
[08:31] <alakoo> the 'sent mail' doesn't store mails in every software as default, have you tried sending something to your own accound making sure that it doesn't get there?
[08:31] <ybit> when the screen just goes away as if i just clicked 'ok'
[08:31] <ybit> alakoo: i've tried about 20 times
[08:31] <ybit> using ssl and tls
[08:32] <ybit> gmail supports two ports for tls apparently since others are able to send on port 25
[08:32] <ybit> maybe it's attempting to use sendmail
[08:32] <ybit> in which case, wtf, where's the configuration for that
[08:33] <alakoo> I'm out of clues, try reconfiguring your account as told here http://www.debianadmin.com/configure-gmail-in-evolution-thunderbird-or-kmail.html
[08:33] <corey_> alakoo i tried your suggestion but it didnt work startup manager did give me the option to turn boot splash on but when i did it still didnt show?
[08:35] <alakoo> corey_: do you have kubuntu-artwork-usplash installed
[08:36] <ybit> i'm reporting a bug
[08:36] <evilshadeslayer_> ybit: use ubuntu-bug kmail
[08:37] <ybit> ?
[08:37] <evilshadeslayer_> ybit: for reporting the bug :)
[08:37] <ybit> i was going to report it on launchpad
[08:37] <evilshadeslayer_> ybit: yes thats the tool for collaborating with LP
[08:37] <evilshadeslayer_> ybit: its a app which automatically collects all relevant info :P
[08:37] <ybit> o rly
[08:37] <evilshadeslayer_> !bug | ybit
[08:38] <corey_> alakoo im checking now, the auto update it installing a usplash update so i will see if that does it
[08:38] <evilshadeslayer_> ybit: makes it easier for the devs to get more info and stuff...
[08:48] <jdcnyc> l
[08:53] <ybit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/560527
[08:53] <ybit> there, reported
[09:42] <ilopetridis> hi
[09:57] <schmutzfinger> hi all
[09:58] <shadeslayer> schmutzfinger: hi!
[09:58] <schmutzfinger> i need the output of "dpkg --get-selections" from a kubuntu 9.10 to repair a broken installation
[09:58] <schmutzfinger> can anyone here provide this list?
[09:58] <schmutzfinger> shadeslayer: hi
[09:59] <shadeslayer> schmutzfinger: sorry lucid here
[10:00] <schmutzfinger> shadeslayer: is lucid the version after 9.10?
[10:00] <Peace-> yea
[10:00] <schmutzfinger> Peace-: lucid as well?
[10:00] <Peace-> i am on lucid yes
[10:01] <shadeslayer> schmutzfinger: yep :)
[10:01] <schmutzfinger> maybe this list will work just fine
[10:01] <schmutzfinger> after all the names of the packages are likely to be the same
[10:01] <schmutzfinger> i would like to give it a try
[10:02] <schmutzfinger> could the both of you please email me that list?
[10:03] <WaltzingAlong> mostly you would need 'ubuntu-standard' and 'kubuntu-desktop'
[10:03] <schmutzfinger> WaltzingAlong: kubuntu-desktop seems to be installed
[10:04] <schmutzfinger> WaltzingAlong: but the kernel and grub where missing
[10:04] <lalalol> anyone using sip-communicator?
[10:04] <schmutzfinger> WaltzingAlong: i installed these two from a rescue shell, but now it still wont boot
[10:05] <schmutzfinger> are the kernel and grub2 part of ubuntu-standard?
[10:05] <WaltzingAlong> and ubunut-minimal
[10:05] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntu-minimal*
[10:19] <TrinNo> I did a update on kpackage,and now kde wont start... Any help?
[10:20] <TrinNo> 64 bit Kubuntu
[10:22] <WaltzingAlong> TrinNo: but you get to the kdm login manager? attempt to log in then nothing?
[10:22] <TrinNo> I go directy to shell when i log in
[10:23] <WaltzingAlong> TrinNo: could check the X log to see why that did not start: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:25] <TrinNo> no drivers available...
[10:25] <TrinNo> nvidia: failed to load the nvidia Kernal module.
[10:25] <WaltzingAlong> TrinNo: so the kernel was updated and the driver not; which nvidia are you using?
[10:25] <TrinNo> Gt 330 M
[10:26] <WaltzingAlong> TrinNo: right but i meant via packages from ubuntu or self installed?
[10:27] <TrinNo> i installed the ones from the Nvida site.
[10:27] <TrinNo> when i try to reinstall it now,it says, /user/lib/xorg/modules/extesnions/libglx.so is not a symbolic linl
[10:28] <WaltzingAlong> !nvidia | TrinNo, ok so i  guess you need to reinstall/reconfigure your installed nvidia driver from nvidia's site to match your current kernel
[10:31] <TrinNo> thanks man.
[10:31] <TrinNo> somehow got it workin :)
[10:33] <WaltzingAlong> TrinNo: congrats ;)
[10:34] <TrinNo> Oh wait.but all my drivers are screwed :(
[10:34] <WaltzingAlong> TrinNo: might be something to keep in mind, each time you update the kernel you will need to update the nvidia module to match
[10:35] <TrinNo> i assumed,since i just download the kde boot cd,i thought i wud get the latest version of the kernal and kde
[10:36] <Benkinooby> argh! someone knows how to get rid of kde-netbook plasma? i allrdy uninstalled, but it's till here...
[10:40] <riverside> hi!
[10:40] <Moron> hi
[10:44] <riverside> anyone knows how to move a window to another desktop, but do not appear on the current desktop taskbar?
[10:45] <WaltzingAlong> riverside: right mouse click on its title bar?
[10:46] <riverside> yeah, it works, but the title stays on the taskbar at the current desktop again, i want it appear at another desktop
[10:48] <WaltzingAlong> riverside: and clicking on it in the taskbar takes you to the other desktop? well either you have it 'on all desktops' or your taskbar shows windows from all desktops, not just current one
[10:48] <Torch> riverside: in the task manager settings, set it to only show windows from the current desktop (if that is what you want)
[10:50] <chestnut> Hi! I'm trying to setup the qtcurve theme for gtk+ applications in lucid. I've installed qtcurve and kcm-gtk, but the settings are not applied and are forgotten upon logout (the .gtkrc-2.0-kde4 file, which contains the settings, seems to be deleted). What am I missing?
[10:51] <riverside> where is task manager setting?
[10:51] <riverside> sorry,i am a newbie
[10:52] <chestnut> riverside: try a right-klick on the taskbar
[10:55] <riverside> Oh, what I want is let it disappear from the current desktop's panel?
[10:56] <WaltzingAlong> riverside: the taskbar is probably configured to show all windows, not just the ones from the current desktop. seems like you want it to show only those from current desktop
[10:56] <chestnut> riverside: You probably don't want to remove the taskbar entirely :-) There should be a settings dialog in which you can select an option "only show windows from current desktop" as Torch suggested above.
[10:57] <chestnut> (I'm sorry I can't give you the exact wording of the menu items, I don't have an english translation here)
[11:01] <KelloggsFrosties> hi folks. is there any nice and comfortable, mother-proof tool for recording voice-audio in kde?
[11:03] <WaltzingAlong> KelloggsFrosties: what have you been using thus far?
[11:05] <KelloggsFrosties> i gave muse a chance but hat problems with configuring this jack-thing and decided that my mother will have to call me every single hour when i recommend to her
[11:05] <WaltzingAlong> KelloggsFrosties: i would be tempted to use audacity , but do not know how mother - proof that might be
[11:06] <KelloggsFrosties> WaltzingAlong: audacity is a gnome tool, isnt it? is it not using pulse audio?
[11:06] <WaltzingAlong> KelloggsFrosties: could ask in #kde then as well
[11:07] <KelloggsFrosties> WaltzingAlong: Good idea, will do that. Thanks!
[11:29] <chestnut> Sorry to bump my earlier question, but could you give me a hint on how qtcurve might be activated for GTK+-Applications, wenn the system settings are not applied? (qtcurve and kcm-gtk are installed, but the .gtkrc-2.0-kde4 is deleted on login)
[12:37] <shadeslayer> oh sorry for that :D
[12:47] <elric_> HoN doesnt seem to work...
[12:47] <elric_> ne idea??
[13:55] <RiotingPacifist> with grub2, when the hell do i have to press shift to actually get it to show me the menu
[13:56] <RiotingPacifist> grub1, worked, grub2 it's 50/50 if it will do what i want or not and it's quite annoying when i'm playing with kernel upgrades to be worrying about grub which is the simplest thing in the boot process, grub2 for the lose
[13:57] <twolf> hello
[13:58] <twolf> i have i problem with the wifi under Kubuntu ca someone help me ?
[13:59] <RiotingPacifist> twolf: do you know how to connect using wpa_supplicant and dhclient3 ?
[13:59] <twolf> unfortunutly no :(
[14:00] <RiotingPacifist> ok whats the problem?
[14:00] <twolf> i can't connect using my wifi card
[14:01] <RiotingPacifist> twolf what card is it?
[14:03] <RiotingPacifist> !wifi | twolf
[14:03] <twolf> Oups haow can i know
[14:04] <RiotingPacifist> twolf: how new is your computer?
[14:05] <twolf> i have hp pavillon dv6700
[14:06] <twolf> ok i find it
[14:06] <twolf> it-s Pc-ATHEROS
[14:07] <WaltzingAlong> !ath5k
[14:10] <RiotingPacifist> twolf: sorry got my own wifi problems here, what kind of protection do you have on the access point, open/wep/wpa?
[14:12] <RiotingPacifist`> twolf: sorry i should be sorted now, but i missed any reply so can you repeat anything you said in the last 5 mins
[14:13] <twolf> ok
[14:13] <twolf> so my computer model is a Hp Pavillon dv6700
[14:14] <twolf> and i have i problem with the wifi connection
[14:14] <twolf> it's can't connect to the internet if i find a wifi zone
[14:15] <twolf> so i thought that the problem is from the wifi card
[14:15] <twolf> or i problem of dependicies and packages
[14:15] <RiotingPacifist`> it probably is with the gui tool, what sort of encryption does your connection have?
[14:16] <twolf> i dont know
[14:16] <twolf> but if you know something to suggest to me to know it
[14:16] <twolf> it will be helpfull
[14:16] <RiotingPacifist`> are you plugged into the router?
[14:16] <twolf> yes
[14:17] <RiotingPacifist`> can you get to the routers admin page?
[14:17] <twolf> i think yes
[14:18] <RiotingPacifist`> on the status page of the router it shoudl say wpa or wep or open, nm-tool may also tell you
[14:19] <twolf>  Device: eth0  [Auto eth0] ----------------------------------------------------
[14:19] <twolf>   Type:              Wired
[14:19] <twolf>   Driver:            r8169
[14:19] <twolf>   State:             connected
[14:19] <twolf>   Default:           yes
[14:19] <twolf>   HW Address:        00:1E:68:5F:30:EB
[14:19] <FloodBotK3> twolf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:20] <RiotingPacifist`> twolf: can you pastebin that and then post a link to the pastebin page
[14:21] <twolf> http://pastebin.com/7eSDC5vK her you are
[14:22] <twolf> so what do you suggest
[14:22] <RiotingPacifist`> can you pastebin the output of iwconfig
[14:23] <twolf> http://pastebin.com/8wH2j41b her you are
[14:23] <twolf> i typed the command and take look to the result
[14:23] <twolf> it's said that ther's no wirlesse devices
[14:24] <RiotingPacifist> i was wrong about the problem it looks like your wireless drivers are not being loaded, what do you get from lsmod | grep ath
[14:24] <RiotingPacifist> and could you pastebin dmesg
[14:24] <RiotingPacifist> !backports
[14:25] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[14:25] <twolf> nothing
[14:26] <twolf> yes i thought the same think
[14:26] <twolf> it's probably the wirless drivers
[14:26] <twolf> it's can be loaded
[14:26] <RiotingPacifist> twolf could you pastebin the output of dmesg?
[14:26] <twolf> ok
[14:28] <twolf> i typed the command but ther is no outputs message
[14:28] <RiotingPacifist> atheros might need some proprietary firmware to be enabled check if there is an option under system>hardwaredrivers
[14:28] <twolf> but when i type lsmod whitout grep it-s gave me this
[14:28] <WaltzingAlong> twolf: nothing for lsmod | grep -i ath, but there must be output from $dmesg
[14:29] <twolf> look a this it's the last command but whitout usig the pipline and the grep http://pastebin.com/AjwsCbd5
[14:30] <WaltzingAlong> b43
[14:31] <twolf> the device is indetectable
[14:31] <RiotingPacifist> broadcom needs firmware i'm fairly sure about that, but that should show in hardware drivers
[14:31] <WaltzingAlong> twolf: kmenu/system/hardware drivers
[14:35] <twolf> ok i activeted the wirlesse driver
[14:36] <twolf> and i think that i shoul reboot the system
[14:36] <twolf> and i think it-s will work
[14:37] <twolf> i'm going to restart and see
[14:37] <twolf> if it's work
[14:37] <WaltzingAlong> twolf: ok
[14:37] <twolf> thank you for helping me :)
 its very nice from you
[14:38] <WaltzingAlong> twolf: welcome to #kubuntu ;)
[14:38] <twolf> thank you
[14:38] <RiotingPacifist> no problem
[14:39] <twolf> i used Kubuntu for many month but i had always the problem of drivers
[14:39] <twolf> i hope it-s working
[14:51] <RiotingPacifist> it should be ok now, some chips need firmware, usually once the firmware is enabled they work without problems
[14:59] <jrendas> I accidentally delete one file named "wedaolu" in my Seven partition. Now, grub doesn't let me boot Seven. I used ntfsundelete but it cannot recover  the file. What should I do? Could anyone send me wedaolu?
[15:13] <Frrx> hey guys same prblem as yesterday here... Error 2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/412212/
[15:14] <avihay> include/linux/mmzone.h:18:26: error: linux/bounds.h: No existe el fichero ó directorio
[15:15] <RiotingPacifist> jrendas: try #windows, you could try looking for a better recovery tool as the file is probably still there
[15:15] <avihay> looks like that file (bounds.h) is missing
[15:15] <roldyx> hello, I need recovery a file.
[15:16] <roldyx> example: mv too.old too
[15:16] <Frrx> im reading
[15:16] <roldyx> I need recovery too
[15:16] <roldyx> is it possible?
[15:16] <RiotingPacifist> Frrx: have you installed linux-headers
[15:16] <Frrx> yup
[15:17] <RiotingPacifist> roldyx: what file do you need to recover, and is there a backup of the file called file~
[15:17] <roldyx> RiotingPacifist:  no, I havent file~
[15:18] <RiotingPacifist> Frrx: in that case i have no idea it looks like the driver might not be compatible with your kernel
[15:18] <Frrx> :(
[15:18] <Frrx> i tried 2 dif versions of the same driver
[15:18] <Frrx> a webcamdriver
[15:19] <RiotingPacifist> roldyx: is there anything in lost+found for that partition ? you wil need to do sudo ls /lost+found or sudo ls /home/lost+found
[15:19] <roldyx> my file system is XFS
[15:19] <RiotingPacifist> roldyx: chances are the file is gone then, but check lost+found anyway
[15:20] <roldyx> /dev/sda2 on / type xfs (rw,relatime)
[15:21] <RiotingPacifist> roldyx are there any files in /lost+found (sudo ls /lost+found)
[15:22] <roldyx> ls: cannot access /lost+found: No such file or directory
[15:22] <roldyx> I HAVE XFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:22] <RiotingPacifist> Frrx: webcam drivers often suck, you could try and contact the driver writer about compatibility for 2.6.31 though
[15:22] <roldyx> xfs dont use lost+found
[15:22] <Frrx> ya... but its a very popular webcam driver... Syntek
[15:23] <Frrx> and i dunno why the rest of the ppl dont have the same problem
[15:23] <RiotingPacifist> roldyx: sorry, i assumed every filesystem put lost file in lost+found
[15:24] <roldyx> RiotingPacifist: thanks anyware
[15:24] <RiotingPacifist> roldyx: how do you lose the file, was it a crash or did you delete it by mistake? where was the file?
[15:25] <roldyx> RiotingPacifist: i dont delete.. only do "mv foo bar" by mistake
[15:25] <roldyx> i need recovery bar
[15:27] <RiotingPacifist> roldyx: ok well then my /lost+found stuff doesn't apply, your best bet is something like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=748497, basically you will have to search the partition for the file
[15:27] <ian__> can someone please tell me how to install kubuntu on top of ubuntu 9.10 so that I can choose between them at login?  Thanks
[15:28] <RiotingPacifist> ian__: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[15:28] <ian__> Thank you RiotingPacifist
[15:31] <twolf> cool it works
[15:31] <RiotingPacifist> Frrx: is it a Syntek DV4000 driver?
[15:31] <twolf> thank's <RiotingPacifist>
[15:31] <Frrx> syntek stk11xx driver
[15:31] <twolf> it  was so easy to do it
[15:32] <RiotingPacifist> Frrx: what device is it for
[15:32] <Frrx> webcam
[15:32] <Frrx> laptop webcam
[15:32] <twolf> i thought it has something with the drivers
[15:32] <twolf> but now it's ok
[15:32] <RiotingPacifist> twolf: no problem it was WaltzingAlong that figured it out, btw you have broadcom not atheros which is why i was confused
[15:32] <RiotingPacifist> Frrx: which model webcam
[15:33] <twolf> i see
[15:33] <Frrx> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 05e1:0501 Syntek Semiconductor Co., Ltd DC-1125 WebCam
[15:33] <twolf> it's possible to run This IRC under windows ?
[15:33] <Frrx> twolf: yes
[15:34] <RiotingPacifist> yes, there are many clients and firefox has a webinterface for it too.
[15:34] <WaltzingAlong> twolf: mirc
[15:34] <Frrx> you can download mirc and connect to this server
[15:34] <Frrx> and join this chan its really easy
[15:34] <twolf> ok
[15:34] <Torch> or install KDE under windows and run konversation ;-)
[15:35] <twolf> because i want to be helped in programming
[15:35] <RiotingPacifist> twolf: which language, some have good irc support (python, perl) other dont
[15:36] <twolf> because i like to share idea with people how are intersted on programing langage
[15:36] <twolf> C++/c
[15:36] <twolf> shell :D
[15:36] <twolf> Visual basic XD
[15:36] <Torch> twolf: this is totally the wrong channel to support you with that
[15:36] <twolf> i see
[15:36] <WaltzingAlong> but there should be some available on this server
[15:37] <lalalol> Me.Dislikes VB.NET
[15:37] <lalalol> lol
[15:37] <WaltzingAlong> or this network
[15:37] <RiotingPacifist> ##c , ##bash other might help though (when i had to learn bash it was really a case of RTM though)
 yes it's little bit obsoléte VB
[15:37] <twolf> but it's still work XD
[15:37] <twolf> ok
 know i learn how to run process under c on command bash
[15:38] <twolf> by using father and son system
[15:40] <RiotingPacifist> Frrx: I don't know much about your webcam / or webcams in general but i have noticed that it is supported in the mainline kernel for 2.6.33, you could try (and this is just a suggestion as there may be better ways to do this) installing http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.33/ and seeing if it works
[15:40] <RiotingPacifist> brb
[15:41] <Frrx> ok
[15:41] <Frrx> ill try...
[15:42] <Frrx> whick file do i have to install?
[15:42] <Frrx> which
[15:43] <Frrx> kernel and image?
[15:44] <Torch> Frrx: have you tried this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/syntekdriver/
[15:44] <lalalol> WOW, does the "visible when offline"-option in kopete mean i can see contacts who have their status set to appearoffline?
[15:45] <Frrx> ive tried so many things... i think i did
[15:45] <Torch> Frrx: okeehhh... don't try the kernel thing, then. if you've lost track of what you did that easily, installing a new kernel isn't the way to go forward.
[15:45] <Torch> Frrx: just some well meant advice.
[15:46] <Frrx> ok ill try this again
[15:46] <Frrx> to see what happn
[15:48] <pawan> hi
[15:48] <pawan> how to remove 30 sec popup windows
[15:48] <pawan> while shuting down
[15:48] <pawan> i want one click shutdown
[15:51] <Torch> pawan: ctrl+alt+shift+PgDown should give you that.
[15:52] <slow-motion> hi
[15:57] <pawan> hi
[15:57] <pawan> i want to do it with mouse
[15:57] <pawan> not with keyboard
[16:00] <scruff> any one know of any good tools to recover deleted files on ubuntu 9.04
[16:05] <WaltzingAlong> !undelete
[16:05] <WaltzingAlong> scruff: ^^
[16:17] <Frrx> guys which one is the safest way to reinstall my kernel?
[16:17] <Frrx> i read in a forum that reinstalling kernel will solve my problem
[16:20] <detamos> #berlin
[16:20] <WaltzingAlong> Frrx: sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>; or ; sudo aptitude reinstall <package> ??
[16:20] <Darth_FeNer> hi everybody
[16:21] <Darth_FeNer> can anybody help me?
[16:22] <Darth_FeNer> i can't set quassel to join mindforge
[16:24] <rork> Darth_FeNer: did you try via File > Networks > Configure networks > Add ?
[16:26] <ubuntu> ghbdt
[16:26] <ubuntu> привет
[16:26] <WaltzingAlong> !ru | ubuntu
[16:26] <ubuntu> no russia? =)
[16:27] <WaltzingAlong> russian? sure but in #ubuntu-ru ;)
[16:27] <ubuntu> oh
[16:27] <rork> Darth_FeNer: did you try via File > Networks > Configure networks > Add ?
[16:47] <vbgunz> I am on Kubuntu 9.10. Using KDE 4.4.2. does visiting this site in Konqueror http://asus.com/entryflash.htm cause your kwin to lock up? launch krunner Alt+F2 and enter kwin --replace to quick fix the issue
[16:48] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: loads here just fine. also kubuntu9.10/kdesc442
[16:49] <vbgunz> WaltzingAlong: choose global and try clicking on something
[16:49] <vbgunz> it keeps crashing kwin for me :/
[16:50] <WaltzingAlong> global support, ok done
[16:51] <WaltzingAlong> using flashplugin-installer, v <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:51] <vbgunz> WaltzingAlong: so you just breezed through it no issues?
[16:52] <WaltzingAlong> correct
[16:52] <vbgunz> :/
[16:52] <WaltzingAlong> which means you should toggle cpu tweak in bios, ;)
[16:52] <Frrx> cant believe i cant compile the freakin driver
[16:54] <vbgunz> I'll be back, gonna enable it and see what happens
[16:54] <Ahmed\> Hello, i have some problem loading my gmail i mean it does loads okay when you login but after replyin the mail when you go backpage or on INBOX it gets so slow and its saying WORKING ON IT or on waiting with a CANCEL sign it takes about 30 seconds when the internet is WORKING WELL fine, Any help ?
[16:54] <WaltzingAlong> oh i was just joking around but ok. ;) vbgunz
[16:54] <WaltzingAlong> Ahmed\: browser? gmail mode? html?
[16:54] <vbgunz> I shouldn't need it though I have B3 stepping and this option shouldn't really address me
[16:55] <Ahmed\> yes its firefox
[16:55] <Ahmed\> no no its on standard version not html its so light
[16:55] <Ahmed\> but its so heavy now i mean outta no where
[16:56] <Ahmed\> only for backpage or replying
[16:58] <Ahmed\> WaltzingAlong: You there ?
[16:58] <WaltzingAlong> yes. do not know what is wrong with your gmail+firefox issue. try a new profile?
[16:59] <Mamarok> Ahmed\: that happens occasionally with Gmail, not a Firefox issue
[17:01] <Ahmed\> I see...
[17:01] <Ahmed\> Cause on windows when i was on windows it works on same version of firefox but not this slow, Thanks :)
[17:01] <Ahmed\> Cause i even removed the save history but
[17:01] <Ahmed\> still
[17:01] <Ahmed\> so you might be right
[17:03] <Ahmed\> Any good firewall ? so i will know what's connected currently and whats not :)
[17:05] <Ahmed\> Whats xulrunner-1.9.1 ?
[17:06] <WaltzingAlong> !info xulrunner | Ahmed\
[17:07] <Ahmed\> there are several types of xulrunner-1.9.1 in synaptic updates, only two are currently installed, should i install those two ? too ?
[17:07] <WaltzingAlong> Ahmed\: you should only need to install 'firefox', which will pull in the needed xulrunner
[17:08] <Ahmed\> good idea
[17:08] <Ahmed\> so it means i have those right i can see the correct versions :)
[17:08] <Ahmed\> how to get security updates for firefox ? does that includes the sudo apt-get update ?
[17:10] <WaltzingAlong> Ahmed\: right, should be included
[17:10] <Ahmed\> yes
[17:11] <Ahmed\> WaltzingAlong: I wanna stick to Gnome, not KDE, so should i install LTS version of upcoming Lucid Lynx ?
[17:12] <WaltzingAlong> kubuntu lucid will also be lts, but looks like you might want ubuntu 10.04/lucid
[17:13] <Ahmed\> yes
[17:13] <Ahmed\> Exactly
[17:13] <Ahmed\> why not LTS version
[17:14] <WaltzingAlong> what do you mean? both kubuntu 10.04 and ubuntu 10.04 will be LTS
[17:14] <WaltzingAlong> !lts > Ahmed\
[17:14] <WaltzingAlong> !lucid > Ahmed\
[17:14] <Ahmed\> I did read it all
[17:15] <Ahmed\> What i'm asking is, Should i install lucid the LTS version or the other which is upgradeable after every six months
[17:15] <WaltzingAlong> but you can upgrade any of them
[17:16] <Ahmed\> On LTS too ?
[17:16] <WaltzingAlong> from lts to non lts, yes
[17:16] <Ahmed\> whats update for 3 years then HUH
[17:16] <Ahmed\> HUH will it still remain LTS version ?
[17:17] <Ahmed\> currently i am on Karmic Koala
[17:17] <WaltzingAlong> ok and that is not lts; upgrade it to 10.04, then it is the lts version
[17:17] <Ahmed\> Yes i see
[17:18] <Ahmed\> but what i was asking whats so different between LTS and other every six months releasing upgradeable
[17:18] <Ahmed\> I do know about those every six months releases
[17:20] <Ahmed\> Mamarok: You was right about Gmail its working Fine now
[17:20] <WaltzingAlong> the difference is the set of packages, the combination of features, and the extend of 'support', both here in #kubuntu or #ubuntu as well as package/security updates available
[17:20] <WaltzingAlong> Ahmed\: ^
[17:20] <Ahmed\> ummmm
[17:20] <Ahmed\> Thats good answer
[17:21] <Ahmed\> but for example i need to use only Gnome @ ubuntu on lucid lynx, i will install KDE but i wont use it much, so should i get LTS version of Lucid or the other one :) which gets uprgades after every six months ?
[17:23] <WaltzingAlong> Ahmed\: install ubuntu lucid 10.04/lts. then install kde as well. it is still k/ubuntu 10.04, still lucid, still lts
[17:23] <Ahmed\> yes thank you so very much :)
[17:23] <Torch> Ahmed\: there is not "LTS lucid" and "non-LTS lucid"
[17:23] <Ahmed\> so will i get updates for about 3 years without upgrading or switching ?
[17:23] <Torch> Ahmed\: you misunderstood the concept
[17:24] <Ahmed\> I'm new here so :)
[17:24] <WaltzingAlong> Ahmed\: all packages released as part of lucid/10.04/lts will be part of lts/lucid, even the ones not installed 'out of the box'
[17:24] <Torch> Ahmed\: lucid differs from, say, karmic in that it receices security updates for a longer time period. that's what makes it LTS (in contrast to karmic or any other non-LTS release)
[17:24] <WaltzingAlong> well not entirely true, main and such but ...
[17:24] <Ahmed\> Well that cleard me up
[17:25] <Ahmed\> Torch: So for example if i have installed Lucid the LTS (for 3 years update) one "cause i really dont wanna switch it after every six months if i get updates" will it be fine ?
[17:26] <Torch> Ahmed\: you will get security updates for LTS for longer than six months (i dunno, two years?)
[17:26] <Torch> Ahmed\: you will NOT get feature updates
[17:26] <Torch> Ahmed\: NO new kde.
[17:26] <WaltzingAlong> install lucid, and install _updates_ after that, but do not do a "dist upgrade", where you move it from lucid to v10.10
[17:27] <Ahmed\> Ohh HUH no new KDE, thats the only two differences ?
[17:27] <Torch> Ahmed\: if you're not running  a company and looking for a distro for >200 seats or running a server, LTS is not for you
[17:27] <Ahmed\> whats feature updates now ?
[17:27] <Ahmed\> Yeah i see..
[17:27] <Torch> Ahmed\: dear lord. no new gnome either.
[17:27] <Ahmed\> HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[17:28] <WaltzingAlong> Ahmed\: bugfixes and security updates to kde4.4 but not kde6 when that comes out in 2.5 years, for example
[17:28] <Ahmed\> So i will stick to the one which can be upgradable after every six months @_@ Thanks dude you helped a lot i was about to install the LTS when it was releasing HUH
[17:28]  * Torch sighs. deeply.
[17:28] <Ahmed\> WaltzingAlong: Yes thats the difference Yeah i see.. you said it so well
[17:28] <WaltzingAlong> Ahmed\: but you can upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 and then to 10.10 when that comes out.
[17:29] <Ahmed\> ummm now i know the difference so its  not for a home users :)
[17:29] <WaltzingAlong> Ahmed\: for those who prefer stability rather than bleeding edge features/bugs ;)
[17:30] <Ahmed\> You mean LTS version ?
[17:31] <WaltzingAlong> yup
[17:32] <Ahmed\> Well thats not for me then :$
[17:32] <Ahmed\> should i upgrade or install a fresh ?
[17:32] <WaltzingAlong> either way, as you prefer
[17:33] <Ahmed\> umm
[17:33] <Ahmed\> wont be any difference ?
[17:34] <WaltzingAlong> i know people who install and others who upgrade. those who do the fresh install made sure to set their home on its own partition
[17:35] <Ahmed\> i see
[17:55] <userkubuntu> I am using kubuntu 9:10 x64 with kde 4.4.2, I have no sound on youtube, how do I fix this?
[17:56] <RiotingPacifist> userkubuntu: do you have sound elsewhere?
[17:56] <userkubuntu> yes
[17:56] <userkubuntu> amarok is ok
[17:56] <userkubuntu> for example
[17:56] <Vlad_lucard> you need to go to kmixer
[17:57] <RiotingPacifist> userkubuntu: did you install flash from repos? is youtube muted in the flash player?
[17:57] <Vlad_lucard> and up the sound of PCM chanel i think
[17:57] <Vlad_lucard> i had the same problem of you
[17:57] <Vlad_lucard> in various instalation and was because of this
[17:57] <Vlad_lucard> sorry if my english is very bad, im not an english speaker)
[17:57] <userkubuntu> ok Vlad_lucard. I understand
[17:58] <userkubuntu> thx
[17:58] <RiotingPacifist> userkubuntu: use kmix / alsamixer and make sure all volumes are at max, make sure youtube volume is at max and see if it works
[17:58] <Vlad_lucard> youre welcome
[18:00] <Vlad_lucard> it still with don't working?
[18:02] <userkubuntu> RiotingPacifist: yes, muted in the flash player!
[18:02] <userkubuntu> ok, I try kmix and alsamix and just go back]
[18:07] <userkubuntu> RiotingPacifist and Vlad_lucard: up the all sounds but  I have no sound on youtube
[18:08] <Vlad_lucard> close firefox and all progam that is using alsa
[18:08] <Vlad_lucard> and reboot firefox
[18:08] <userkubuntu> ok
[18:09] <James147_> userkubuntu: try purging and reinstalling flash, some have fixed that problem doing that
[18:10] <userkubuntu> nothing, stay mute
[18:10] <RiotingPacifist> i think the problem is likely to be nspluginwrapper, 1) uninstal flash, 2) go to the adobe site and install 64bit flash player 3) restart firefox 4)... 5) profit
[18:10] <userkubuntu> say: no sound
[18:11] <userkubuntu> ok, Itry
[19:07] <userkubuntu> ok, that's right, I resolved by uninstalling, downloading the driver libflashplayer.so, creating the plugins directory within the $ HOME / .mozilla and placing it inside the driver, was not perfect, it has some cuts, but at least now I hear.
[19:07] <userkubuntu> thx for all
[19:13] <pophorea> sal
[19:14] <pophorea> how do you do ?
[19:17] <norrius> почему-то появляются артефакты под курсором. Как убрать?
[19:18] <norrius> черт
[19:28] <draik> When is the release for Lucid?
[19:28] <draik> !schedule
[19:32] <draik> April 29, 2010 :)
[19:34] <RiotingPacifist> userkubuntu: did you ever get the flash issue fixed, just noticed that i'd droped off irc
[19:36] <WaltzingAlong> RiotingPacifist: afaik, yes. libflashplayer.so from adobe 64bit
[19:38] <RiotingPacifist> gdgd, thought that would help 64bit flash isn't nearly as bad as 32bit flash on 64bit linux
[19:39] <userkubuntu> for me that's right
[19:40] <userkubuntu> now I need to solve the problem of phonon that is most important to me.
[19:44] <maicon> Oi
[19:44] <maicon> alguem ai?
[19:45] <maicon> brazil???
[19:58] <smith00145> I am running kubuntu can't download nvidia drivers... giving me error to check jockey log file
[19:59] <szal> and what does the log file say?
[20:02] <smith00145> 2010-04-09 22:00:16,856 DEBUG: updating <jockey.detection.LocalKernelModulesDriverDB instance at 0x913dfcc>
[20:02] <smith00145> 2010-04-09 22:00:16,857 DEBUG: reading modalias file /lib/modules/2.6.32-19-generic/modules.alias
[20:02] <smith00145> 2010-04-09 22:00:17,172 DEBUG: reading modalias file /usr/share/jockey/modaliases/bcmwl
[20:02] <smith00145> 2010-04-09 22:00:17,178 DEBUG: reading modalias file /usr/share/jockey/modaliases/disable-upstream-nvidia
[20:02] <smith00145> 2010-04-09 22:00:17,290 DEBUG: reading modalias file /usr/share/jockey/modaliases/fglrx-modules.alias.override
[20:02] <FloodBotK3> smith00145: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:03] <smith00145> 2010-04-09 22:00:17,295 DEBUG: reading modalias file /usr/share/jockey/modaliases/nvidia-173
[20:13] <smith00145> can anyone please tell me how to install nvidia repository
[20:53] <bdizzle> hi, I'm having an issue with installing updates. When I run the KDE Software Updates, I get the error: "Cannot launch daemon, file not found or permissions invalid"
[21:01] <Him> Hey all. I'm going to install Kubuntu, but I have a WEP 40/128 wireless network to connect to, and the default network manager doesn't handle this. How would I go about changing it?
[21:02] <Him> Guess not.
[21:07] <WaltzingAlong> Him: ?
[21:27] <RnFstRuckHrd> Hello - I am having some issues playing .mkv files in DragonPlayer. Is there a codec I need or is this a limitation of the player?
[21:30] <rork> !codecs | RnFstRuckHrd
[21:30] <rork> I hope that can help you find your answer
[21:31] <RnFstRuckHrd> TY both
[21:47] <deokanon> hello, i have a stupid problem, audio sound is strange (like it's slowed down) i have a couple of programs running... anyone suggests a fix?
[22:07] <seck> somebody knows how to change the wallpaper in the cube?
[22:14] <WaltzingAlong> deokanon: i had a similar issue when i launched twinkle a 2nd time, the first one frozen. killing both then starting over with just one
[22:15] <deokanon> waltz: did you do something about it?
[22:19] <Khaos> Anyone around?
[22:34] <slow-motion> n8
[22:46] <hexdump_> hello all!
[22:47] <hexdump_> I could find the keyboard shortcuts in gnome, but I ca't find it in KDE.
[22:47] <Frrx> guys quick question in which type of system (fat32, ext2,etc) can i format my pendrive to se it both for windows and linux
[22:47] <hexdump_> I'm probably just overlooking it, but coulds someone d9rirect me to where it is.
[22:48] <Frrx> im using partition magic
[22:49] <hexdump_> Frrx:  use FAT
[22:50] <Frrx> thx
[22:50] <Frrx> hexdump_: thx
[22:50] <hexdump_> Frrx: no prob
[22:50] <hexdump_> Frrx:  I'm not sure, maybe there are other formats, but I know for sure that FAT works.
[22:51] <Frrx> ok... is just for docs, pdfs maybe mp3 so it will probably work for sure
[22:52] <hexdump_> yeah
[22:52] <hexdump_> Frrx:  FAT will work for sure
[22:53] <hexdump_> right everyone?
[22:54] <Frrx> by the way do u know if i can run a virus scan from linux (i have 2 partitions linux and windows) cause im pretty sure i got viruses on windows and i dont want to clean them from windows
[22:54] <genii> !info klamav
[22:55] <genii> !info clamav
[22:56] <Frrx> thx will it clean windows virus running it on linux?
[22:58] <genii> Frrx: Regular viruses, yes. Stuff like browser hijackers etc likely not
[22:58] <Frrx> ok think
[22:59] <Frrx> thanks
[23:03] <hexdump_> welp I dunno I don't think I can set a shortcut for my knonsole then
[23:05] <linuxlov3r> hello
[23:06] <Frrx> guys i already installed clamav
[23:07] <Frrx> but i cant run it
[23:13] <hexdump_> I can't seem to figure out how to create a shortcut to my konsole in KDE, any ideas?
[23:20] <avihay> where do you want to put it?
[23:20] <denis_> salve sono alle prime armi qualcuno mi puo dare una mano con una cosa facile , in pratica ho messo il comando mnt nella esecuzione automatica per far caricare i due hard del computer , ma nn me li carica visto che nn ha i diritti di amministratore nn avendo la password come posso ovviare a questo problema ???
[23:32] <WaltzingAlong> !it | dendrobates
[23:32] <elkinc2000> Hello everybody
[23:32] <WaltzingAlong> oops dennister
[23:32] <elkinc2000> can somebody help me with a installation problem?
[23:44] <cloacker> does someone have experience with k3b?
[23:47] <Salami> 40˙01 ɥʇıʍ sɯǝןqoɹd ƃuıɔuǝıɹǝdxǝ uǝǝq ǝʌɐɥ ı
[23:48] <BluesKaj> Salami, then ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:49] <Salami> noʎ ʞuɐɥʇ ʞo
[23:49] <elkinc2000> i have problems with the installation, can somebody help me?


[01:04] <rlaager> Is there a convention for referencing Launchpad bugs in debian/changelog that does not close the Launchpad bug on upload? (Or am I wrong in my assumption that LP: #... closes the bug?)
[01:04] <nacc> rlaager: drop the ':'
[01:06] <rlaager> nacc: Thanks!
[01:07] <Logan> er, the colon should be fine
[01:07] <Logan> I use that every time, and it works fine
[01:08] <Logan> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/dpkg/dpkg.git/tree/scripts/Dpkg/Vendor/Ubuntu.pm#n173
[01:08] <Logan> here's the regular expression ;)
[01:08] <rlaager> Logan: With "LP: #...", does it close the bug report (i.e. mark it "Fix released") on upload?
[01:08] <Logan> it marks it as Fix Released as soon as it hits the release pocket, I believe
[01:08] <nacc> Logan: right, with a colon, i believe the watcher changes the bug state, rlaager asked what would prevent htat
[01:08] <rlaager> Note that I want to reference a bug report, but this is not an entire fix, so I do NOT want it to close.
[01:09] <Logan> ohhh
[01:10] <rlaager> The downside here is that the changelog won't get automatically copied into the bug either, but oh well. In my in-house thing at work, I support "Closes #..." vs "Refs #...", which I think is a convention I copied from Pidgin development.
[01:10] <rlaager> Not that I can upload to Ubuntu anyway, but I'm trying to produce debdiffs that are 100% good-to-go.
[01:10] <sarnold> you could always go set it back to IN PROGRESS or something afterwards
[01:11] <Logan> oh
[01:11] <sarnold> or open a new bug for this small problem?
[01:11] <Logan> I misread
[01:11] <sarnold> "small"
[01:11] <Logan> yes, removing the colon should work based on that regular expression
[01:11] <Logan> sorry to cause confusion
[01:12] <rlaager> sarnold: So, can packages move from universe to main post release, or is ZFS stuck in universe for the lifetime of Xenial?
[01:13] <sarnold> rlaager: *sigh* I hadn't noticed it didn't make it to main.
[01:14] <sarnold> rlaager: there's precedent for making promotions to main retroactive, anyway: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ppc64-diag/+bug/1417608
[01:14] <rlaager> sarnold: See my previous rant/whinge about the lack of feedback. Basically, do I hassle people (and annoy them if they're going to get to it) or not and it doesn't get done (if they weren't working on it).
[01:15] <sarnold> rlaager: yes :(
[01:16] <sarnold> I'd rather be bothered; most releases there's no way we can get to all the MIR requests, so it's nice to know which ones are _needed_ vs which ones aren't.
[01:16] <rlaager> By the way, what's the policy on assigning bugs? Specifically, is it okay for me to assign a bug to myself, even if I'm not an Ubuntu developer?
[01:16] <sarnold> yeah that should be fine
[01:17] <sarnold> maybe make a comment in the bug if you're actively working on it -- people assign bugs to themslves all the time without meaning to.
[01:17] <Unit193> It's a bit annoying, aye. >_>
[01:17] <rlaager> Okay. I've been taking the "be bold" (or "better to beg forgiveness than ask permission") approach and figured someone would slap me down if I was creating a problem.
[01:19] <sarnold> that works out well for everyone :) bugs get fixed
[05:56] <Mirv> pitti: there would be another hanged s390x test, marble, at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#qtbase-opensource-src
[05:56] <Mirv> that's the only thing blocking
[08:07] <Mirv> or maybe Laney ^ ?
[08:09] <seb128> Mirv, pitti is in Austin so probably still sleeping
[08:11] <Mirv> seb128: ok. I'm just trying to find someone who has access to the autopackagetest infra to restart that one test.
[08:11] <seb128> yeah, no idea who that is
[08:11] <seb128> but better to ask like than to ping one specific person that might not be around
[08:18] <Mirv> in the trickier cases it has been only one specific person who knows what to do. there's a bug filed about this "stuck in running state" which happens every now and then.
[08:21] <seb128> that sounds like an issue
[08:43] <Laney> Mirv: I skipped it now, looks like it got blacklisted
[08:52] <Mirv> Laney: ok, let's see if it gets unblocked now
[09:50] <Mirv> Laney: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#qtbase-opensource-src seems unchanged, still "Test in progress"
[09:50] <Mirv> (without being in progress or running page during the last hour)
[09:50] <Laney> Dunno
[09:50] <Laney> Need to wait then
[09:51] <Mirv> ...for pitti
[09:52] <Mirv> likely another case of bug #1571353 and some magic forcing is needed while the bug is still open
[09:52]  * Laney tried one more thing
[10:15] <Mirv> ok, page updated, no change, and no new test runs completed or anything running currently
[12:51] <pitti> seb128, Laney: FYI: retry-autopkgtest-regressions --state RUNNING
[12:52] <pitti> this generates all commands
[12:52] <pitti> then pick out the ones you want/need
[12:52] <pitti> re-running marble now
[12:52] <seb128> pitti, hey! happy friday
[12:52] <seb128> pitti, does that work with "hanging" instances?
[12:52] <pitti> and that bug is high on my list, for next week
[12:53] <pitti> seb128: well, the test request got lost
[12:53] <seb128> ah ok
[12:53] <seb128> so retry would have worked
[12:53] <pitti> which normally "should not happen"™, but can with bug 1571353
[12:53] <pitti> seb128: right, except that you don't have a convenient button on excuses, you need to use run-autopkgtest
[12:54] <pitti> seb128: other than heating up the universe it's completely safe to re-run tests
[12:54] <pitti> if there are more than one results for a test, britney will just pick one (preferring PASSes)
[12:55] <pitti> seb128: et joyeux vendredi à toi aussi ! comment vas-tu ?
[12:56] <seb128> pitti, noted for next time
[12:57] <seb128> pitti, ça va bien, il fait beau et chaud ici ! tu rentres quand ?
[12:57] <pitti> seb128: well, hopefully there won't be many next times any more :)
[12:57] <pitti> this is the only known way how to lose test requests right now, and we know how to fix it
[12:57] <pitti> seb128: cet àpres-midi, mon vol va à 17h15
[12:58] <seb128> pitti, tu pourras profiter de ton dimanche alors :-)
[12:58] <seb128> pitti, k, fingers crossed that once that one is fixed things are reliable then!
[12:59] <pitti> seb128: en effet ! et le temps est très bien, donc on va être dehors tout le dimanche :)
[13:00] <seb128> sounds great! :-)
[13:39] <seb128> hum
[13:39] <seb128> did launchpad stopped deleting SRUs from -proposed when they move to -updates?
[13:39] <seb128> or are they staying there until the update is rolled out at 100% and they cleaned out?
[13:40] <cjwatson> LP never did that automatically
[13:40] <seb128> I never noticed packages having "updates, proposed" on their ubuntu package before
[13:40] <seb128> e.g https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software
[13:40] <cjwatson> they're listed on
[13:40] <cjwatson> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[13:40] <seb128> oh ok
[13:40]  * cjwatson processes the current batch
[13:41] <cjwatson> it's just manual to avoid accidents
[13:41] <seb128> I guess it's usally done frequently enough that I never noticed
[13:41] <cjwatson> and because cleanup is in no way urgent
[13:41] <seb128> cjwatson, thanks!
[13:41] <cjwatson> np
[13:42] <seb128> (or maybe usually whoever does the pocket copy does the cleanup as well while they are at it?)
[13:42] <cjwatson> more usual to wait for it to show up in the report IME
[13:43] <Mirv> seb128: can you try out pitti's instruction on the marble? it'd look like no-one ran the command yet (no new executed autopkgtest runs, nothing running, state still stuck)
[13:43] <seb128> Mirv, pitti said he was doing it
[13:44] <seb128> pitti, did you do? just checking if there was an issue before doing it as well
[13:44] <seb128> cjwatson, k, thanks for the details!
[13:47] <pitti> seb128: I did run the command, yes
[13:47] <seb128> Mirv, ^
[13:48] <pitti> sorry, can't check this now, in meeting
[13:49] <Mirv> ok thanks pitti, I'm just not finding any new log at http://is.gd/aX745A listing nor anything on the running page
[13:49] <pitti> triggering it again
[13:52] <Mirv> still nothing on http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.shtml - the previous runs have lasted for roughly 40 mins so it should be showing there. I guess needs time for debugging at a better time.
[13:53] <pitti> right
[13:56] <pitti> oh!
[13:56] <pitti> Mirv, seb128: sorry, completely forgot: the workers blacklist yakkety/s390x/marble
[13:57] <pitti> as this is killing the workers and causing tmpfail loops
[13:57] <pitti> so hinting it is the right solution
[13:57] <pitti> and Laney did that
[13:57] <pitti> so the next britney run ought to pick this up
[13:58] <seb128> pitti, Laney did that earlier, shouldn't it have picked it up by now?
[13:59] <pitti> ah, because it's in progress, and we wait for that, it's not failed
[13:59] <pitti> meh
[13:59]  * pitti hints it harder
[14:00] <pitti> will go in next roud
[14:00] <pitti> roud
[14:00] <pitti> round
[14:00] <seb128> pitti, thanks!
[14:00] <seb128> Mirv, ^
[14:08] <Laney> meow
[14:08] <Laney> pitti: what did you do?
[14:08] <Laney> I killed it from pending.json but that didn't work, it came back
[14:08]  * Laney wasn't sure how to clear it
[14:11] <pitti> Laney: the blacklisting on the workers is a bit poor right now, they don't get marked as failed; I think they should be, that's also something for next week
[14:11] <pitti> if someone could file a bug about this, I'd appreciate
[14:12] <Laney> pitti: fine, but I want to know how you cleared out the inprogress too so I can do that next time
[14:12] <pitti> Laney: I didn't, I just force-skiptest'ed qt
[14:13] <pitti> right now nothign tells britney that the test is "done" (i. e. not really ran, but ignored)
[14:14] <Laney> nod
[14:14] <Laney> but force-badtest could force INPROGRESS too
[14:15] <Laney> filed the other bug anwyays
[14:16] <pitti> Laney: no, that only forces over failures
[14:16] <pitti> regressions, I mean
[14:18] <Laney> pitti: is there a reason it has to be like that?
[14:19] <pitti> Laney: no, we could fix britney to apply force-badtest on inprogress
[14:19] <Laney> ya, that was my question really
[14:19] <pitti> Laney: but I think we should still clean up the blacklisting handling, as there's no feedback from infra → britney
[14:19] <pitti> and we have to have explicit hints
[14:21] <Laney> pitti: I filed both
[14:22] <pitti> thanks
[14:31] <doko> Mirv, please could you have a look at the pocl ftbfs? there seem to be issues on i386, however pulling the second clang version into main is a no-go
[14:33] <doko> Mirv, the alternative is to remove the pocl dependency
[15:35] <seb128> pitti, did you see Laney's reply on bug #1575152?
[15:42] <seb128> slangasek, xnox, seems the upstart changes in yakkety are not warning free, .xsession-errors has some complains about UpdateActivationEnvironment
[15:49] <xnox> seb128, right, that's what i thought was the case which tinoco (?!) said are all good.
[15:49] <xnox> let me find where we talked about that
[15:49] <inaddy> xnox: me
[15:50] <inaddy> ?
[15:50] <xnox> inaddy, oh. are you Trevinho?
[15:50] <inaddy> tinoco == inaddy
[15:50] <inaddy> not me =)
[15:50] <xnox> seb128, https://launchpad.net/~3v1n0
[15:50] <xnox> inaddy, not you =)
[15:50] <Trevinho> xnox: ehm?
[15:51] <Trevinho> ah...
[15:51] <Trevinho> seb128: which warning? any log?
[15:52] <seb128> Trevinho, bug #1578934
[15:53] <xnox> Trevinho, possibly there are things we try to push before dbus is up...
[15:53] <Trevinho> xnox: no, it's just about fixing the dbus path
[15:53] <xnox> =)
[15:53] <Trevinho> xnox: it's one line change in dbus_proxy = ...
[15:54] <Trevinho> xnox: /org/freedesktop/DBus instead of /
[15:54] <xnox>  /o\ that's what i said, i never recalled that thing actually worked right.... =/
[15:54] <Trevinho> xnox: it's weird that it fixed the pete-woods bug, on his terminal... As thigns were exported
[15:55] <Trevinho> but, well... fixing the path should fix things
[15:55] <Trevinho> xnox: should I do the branch, or you do it?
[15:56] <xnox> Trevinho, send a merge proposal and I can land it for you
[15:56] <Mirv> tjaalton: doko is interested in you looking into pocl ftbfs, at 17:31
[15:56] <Trevinho> xnox: ok, fine
[16:02] <doko> Mirv, ouch again ...
[16:06] <Trevinho> xnox: here you are https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/upstart/activation-proper-dbus-path/+merge/294025
[16:07] <Trevinho> xnox: FYI this error wasn't present at the time you did the patch, though... Since testing it in trusty still works with no errors.
[16:12] <xnox> fun.
[16:12] <xnox> does this new thing work in both old and new?
[16:16] <Trevinho> xnox: yes
[16:16] <Trevinho> xnox: can you also care about SRUing those MPs?
[16:19] <xnox> maybe
[16:22] <Trevinho> maybe? :)
[16:56] <Trevinho> xnox: Iv'e tested that change again, and it seems that it also fixes some missing env vars now... so nice one
[19:02] <wutf> are there sufficient tests in place to use the pre-release ubuntu?
[19:03] <wutf> i used xenial long before it was released and experienced few problems
[19:03] <wutf> the only real problem i noticed is that sometimes the updater would get into a weird inconsistent state, in which case i would just ignore it and it would eventually fix itself
[19:06] <sarnold> it's probably fine for enthusiasts, though I wouldn't recommend it for people who just want a computer to work
[19:07] <sarnold> but if you like filing bug reports when things break, it should fit alright :)
[19:07]  * dobey wishes computers would work
[19:07] <wutf> sarnold, what kind of testing framework do you guys have?
[19:07] <wutf> is general system stability tested before packages go into the devel release?
[19:08] <sarnold> wutf: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html
[19:08] <dobey> not exactly
[19:08] <dobey> autopkgtests get run, but those of course don't test everything
[19:09] <wutf> there is an automated test generation and running framework?
[19:09] <sarnold> test running
[19:09] <wutf> ah
[19:10] <sarnold> the tests have to be built into the packages using http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep8/
[19:10] <dobey> if there was something generating tests automatically, i'd be more afraid of something other than my pc not breaking
[19:10] <wutf> you could autogenerate tests using fuzzing
[19:10] <dobey> viva la robolucion
[19:11] <sarnold> dobey: lol
[19:11] <sarnold> fuzzing only gets you so far. very little of what is tested via autopkgtests would be reproducable with fuzzing testing
[19:12] <wutf> command line tools can have the fuzzer seeded with the man page
[19:12] <wutf> gui tools could run through UIs
[19:12] <wutf> ^_^
[19:13] <dobey> i think we have a fairly decent idea of how to build our tests
[19:13] <sarnold> funny enough, i'm at the moment reading a debdiff that adds dep-8 tests to a package: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/258172429/spl-linux_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3.diff.gz
[19:23] <wutf> is there a process for automatically keeping packages up to date with their releases?
[19:23] <wutf> or are all packages handled manually
[19:24] <nacc> wutf: what do you mean?
[19:24] <nacc> wutf: do you mean upstream releases?
[19:24] <wutf> i just sed -r 's/xenial/yakkety/' my /etc/apt/sources.list, and i'm wondering how there are so many new packages already...
[19:24] <wutf> yeah
[19:25] <nacc> well, the version in debian (which is typically the version in ubuntu, or was at some point) is not necessarily the same as upstream
[19:25] <nacc> there is an autosync that goes on for some time, for packages that can be synced (already in-sync between ubuntu and debian)
[19:26] <wutf> actually i mean for a specific package, like ode
[19:26] <wutf> ie a set of scripts that check each package..
[19:26] <nacc> ode has the same version in 16.04 as in 16.10?
[19:26] <wutf> yeah, but if it's updated..
[19:27] <wutf> a new release comes out
[19:27] <wutf> that's handled manually for all packages?
[19:27] <nacc> in debian
[19:27] <nacc> ?
[19:27] <wutf> no
[19:27] <wutf> up-up-stream
[19:27] <wutf> upupstream
[19:28] <nacc> wutf: IME, typically, a new version of a package only shows up if it's in Debian, unless there is someone actively pacakging/maintaining it in Ubuntu
[19:28] <nacc> for much of universe, i think it's just what is in Debian
[19:28] <nacc> but don't quote me on that :)
[19:29] <nacc> if Ubuntu does jump Debian's versioning, you can see that with a -0ubuntu1 style versioning (the -0 implies that is not a Debian published base)
[19:29] <wutf> i'm asking how it's possible that so many packages are kept up to date with their source releases
[19:29] <wutf> if it's not automated
[19:29] <sarnold> it's mostly up to debian maintainers to periodically check
[19:30] <sarnold> there are some automated tools (uscan) to try to help out but it's potentially overwhelming
[19:30] <nacc> it has to be packaged by someone
[19:30] <nacc> sarnold: does debian automate uscan runs? (j/w)
[19:30] <nacc> i know one of the websites notifies you if there is a new upstream based upon d/watch
[19:30] <wutf> ah, uscan
[19:31] <sarnold> nacc: ahh that might be more like it, perhaps uscan is only used once you're aware that there's something new :)
[19:31] <nacc> uscan + uupdate is how you update a package if the d/watch file is able to indicate a new upstream version
[19:31] <nacc> but it still requires someone to run those commands, aiui, and to verify the packaging is right, etc
[19:31] <wutf> this makes more sense. you write watch files for packages and get notified automatically when an update is detected
[19:32] <nacc> and i'm not entirely sure there is a notification side of htings (I assume there is, but I don't know where it lives or runs if so)
[19:33] <nacc> you can see here, at least, even though the watch file is broken, something did look for it: https://packages.qa.debian.org/p/php7.0.html
[19:36] <hallyn> pitti: got a minute by chance?
[19:40] <wutf> upgrade went off without a hitch
[19:40] <wutf> i searched online for any sign of autuomated uscans but didn't see anything
[19:41] <nacc> wutf: well clearly the debian package QA is running something
[19:41] <wutf> link?
[19:42] <wutf> ah.
[19:42] <wutf> yes, clearly they are doing automated uscan:)
[19:43] <pitti> hallyn: sorry, closing session > airport > 15 h flight :(
[19:43] <wutf> https://ouaza.com/static/conf/pts-internals.pdf
[19:43] <sarnold> pitti: oof. safe travels.
[19:44] <hallyn> pitti: \o  have a good and safe flight
[19:44] <hallyn> mbiebl: can i pester you? :)
[19:46] <hallyn> hm, guess not.  back to the google
[19:47] <pitti> sarnold, hallyn: thanks
[20:10] <tdaitx> doko: thanks for the arm32 fix