[09:50] <disinterested_pe> well do u consider 6.06 better or just newer?
[09:50] <holycow> personally, just newer
[09:50] <Hexidigital_> disinterested_pe:: both, imo
[09:50] <holycow> better doesn't relaly mean anything to me
[09:50] <petrik> It's a USB CVC-301 webcam, the box says colorviz but the windows program refers to it as vimicro
[09:50] <achandra> egad: ill be working this out pretty soon myself..so if you dont get it worked out we can work on it together...
[09:50] <egad> achandra: 'ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0'
[09:50] <holycow> i can't measure better, i can measure newer
[09:51] <Healot> of course newer version has more new features and they were meant to overcome past version's weaknesses
[09:51] <disinterested_pe> ok so for a newbie it should be a real challenge huh?
[09:51] <holycow> not really
[09:51] <holycow> if you are using breezy now, all of your knowledge translates
[09:51] <rene> i would like to use my british keyboard, but ubuntu keeps setting it to german layout, what file do i have to edit to change that annoying behavior, a temporary solution is to change it via setxkmap gb, but i hate to enter that every time
[09:51] <disinterested_pe> ok holycow
[09:51] <egad> achandra: cool i'd appreciate any additional help :c)
[09:52] <disinterested_pe> im glad u guys dont discourage ppl
[09:52] <achandra> egad: lets try some other stuff yeah...you might be help me out...
[09:52] <Hexidigital_> disinterested_pe:: what do you mean?
[09:52] <disinterested_pe> meaning ur trying to help not hinder ppl
[09:52] <Hexidigital_> ah
[09:53] <achandra> egad: can you type this for me..
[09:53] <egad> achandra: sure :c)
[09:53] <achandra> egad: ndiswrapper -m
[09:53] <achandra> or
[09:53] <Healot> holycow!
[09:53] <achandra> /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper -,
[09:53] <holycow> yeeeeesssss..s..?
[09:53] <achandra> /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper -m
[09:54] <egad> achandra: i already did ndiswrapper -m a bit ago  didnt seem to do anything.. i guess it just adds it to some boot listing hehe
[09:54] <disinterested_pe> ive got to go turn my iguanas lights off
[09:54] <achandra> egad let go here..
[09:54] <achandra> egad: go to /etc/
[09:54] <egad> ok
[09:54] <achandra> then vi modprobe.conf
[09:55] <egad> ok
[09:55] <egad> no modprobe.conf in that folder
[09:55] <Hexidigital_> woohoo!  matrix 2 and 3 back to back
[09:55] <achandra> where is modprobe.conf in ubuntu?
[09:56] <spikeb> Hexidigital_: what channel, and what timezone?
[09:56] <spikeb> heh
[09:56] <achandra> egad: type find / -name modprobe.conf
[09:56] <Hexidigital_> spikeb:: EST or GMT-500 on TBS (united states)
[09:56] <holycow> disinterested_pe, as a side project some day, hook up your iguana light to a controller, hook up the controller to some networking controllers, put it on the network, and turn it off from your system
[09:56] <holycow> >_<
[09:56] <achandra> egad: that should tell us where the file is...
[09:56] <Hexidigital_> spikeb:: 3 is coming on now
[09:57] <achandra> anybody know off the top of their head where modprobe.conf is in ubuntu??
[09:57] <Hexidigital_> achandra:: you on ubuntu now?
[09:57] <egad> achandra: a bunch of places lol
[09:57] <achandra> not yet...waiting for download..lol
[09:57] <petrik> I got info on the USB ports but not what is attached to them with lspci
[09:57] <Hexidigital_> achandra:: in terminal, type 'whereis modprobe.conf' without quotes
[09:57] <Cyphir> hi can anyone help me with a partition problem?
[09:57] <achandra> egad: what Hexidigital said...lol
[09:58] <holycow> achandra, locate modprobe.conf is a good tool
[09:58] <Healot> Cyphir: LVM?
[09:58] <Hexidigital_> egad::  in terminal, type 'whereis modprobe.conf' without quotes
[09:58] <achandra> and classic find / -name "whatever" works too right?
[09:58] <Cyphir> Healot: I don't thnk so, its a problem about resizing pre-existing partitions
[09:58] <spikeb> yes achandra
[09:59] <achandra> but of course...:)
[09:59] <Cyphir> Healot: I want to delete my windows partition and place my existing linux partiton in its place without losing any fata
[09:59] <achandra> spikeb: thanks.
[09:59] <achandra> egad: find it?
[09:59] <petrik> It's rather frustrating. It seems to have handled everything else vey well. I gues in time I'll figure it all out. Tried to compile a driver from source code. Failed. I put it down to not having a clue what I'm doing
[09:59] <johnnybezak> hey guys, something is resetting my hostname to 10.1.1.1 and it's a gnome application. i have to constantly open /etc/resolv.conf and change it. what do you think is doing this?
[09:59] <egad> achandra: uhh i find modprobe.conf.5.gz lol
[09:59] <egad> find=found
[10:00] <achandra> that cant be it...does the locate find it..
[10:00] <petrik> Cypher have you got your data on a seperate drive or partition?
[10:00] <Hexidigital_> egad:: that's not it
[10:00] <twibbler> Can anybody help me setup a USB printer please.
[10:00] <achandra> egad: you have to find where that file or its equivalent is...trust me..we are close..
[10:00] <Cyphir> petrik: partition
[10:00] <Healot> you can use a third party partitioner like Partition Magic
[10:00] <Hexidigital_> egad:: that means modprobe.conf is not there
[10:01] <Cyphir> petrik: can i send you a picture of my partitions with gparterd?
[10:01] <egad> achandra: no modprobe.conf it appears.. 'modprobe' yes 'modprobe.modutils' yes 'modprobe.Lmodutils' yes and modprobe.d yes but no modprobe.conf
[10:01] <disinterested_pe> i am quite impressed how much faster this is than xp
[10:01] <Hexidigital_> disinterested_pe:: you installing now?
[10:01] <Hexidigital_> disinterested_pe:: or running it?
[10:01] <achandra> Hexidigital_: how is that possible...where are modules reffered to in ubuntu?
[10:01] <petrik> sure.... not that I know what gparted is
[10:01] <disinterested_pe> im still installing packages for ubuntu
[10:01] <achandra> or aliased..sorry
[10:02] <Cyphir> petrik: it is a partition tool
[10:02] <disinterested_pe> i havent got the discs for 6.06 yet
[10:02] <Hexidigital_> modprobe: /sbin/modprobe.modutils /sbin/modprobe /etc/modprobe.d /usr/share/man/man8/modprobe.8.gz
[10:02] <egad> yes those
[10:02] <Hexidigital_> achandra:: get that pm?
[10:03] <Cyphir> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9964&d=1148475872 contains a picture
[10:03] <achandra> yep
[10:03] <Hexidigital_> whoops, nm achandra
[10:03] <achandra> got it
[10:03] <Hexidigital_> i meant to not scroll in the channel
[10:03] <petrik> With M$ I already had everything partitioned off. OS on one, programs on another, and data on a different drive (ran out room on the first)
[10:03] <morphix> err.. i forgot how to display all the current users of the system in shell? can someone help?
[10:03] <Hexidigital_> egad, did your system show the same thing?
[10:03] <egad> Hexidigital: yep
[10:04] <egad> wel
[10:04] <egad> l
[10:04] <Cyphir> morphix, try id?
[10:04] <egad> Hexidigital: i also had an Lmodutils too
[10:04] <Hexidigital_> egad:: those are different directories... you have to cd in terminal
[10:04] <achandra> right..
[10:04] <egad> Hexidigital: yes I know..
[10:04] <egad> Hexidigital: but what am I doing with them? hehe
[10:04] <Hexidigital_> open with nano.. sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d
[10:04] <morphix> Cyphir, that doesnt show all the users
[10:05] <petrik> Then when I was installing took note of the partition sizes to locate them in the installer so I knew what to format and what to leave
[10:05] <morphix> i dont want their permissions.. just what users are on the system
[10:05] <achandra> let me ask the question a different way..when aliasing a module it will be in modprobe.d in ubuntu right?
[10:05] <egad> thats a directory
[10:05] <Cyphir> petrik, so what are u suggesting?
[10:05] <achandra> ahh..
[10:06] <egad> achandra: let me try something heh heh heh hehehe
[10:06] <petrik> Only thing is that the data drive is in NTFS and I understand this can lead to issues
[10:06] <achandra> egad: we must alias the module in the proper place...thats what im trying to get at..:)
[10:06] <achandra> and then we'll be a step furthrer
[10:06] <petrik> Cypher: well how is your set up right now? Is it all on one drive/partition?
[10:07] <Cyphir> petrik, this url will show u a picture on how they are set up ibbler has quit ("Ex-Chat")
[10:07] <Cyphir> Cyphir http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9964&d=11484758
[10:07] <Hexidigital_> achandra, egad:: sounds to me something is not installed properly
[10:07] <disinterested_pe> im installing that torcs game
[10:07] <egad> achandra: oh ok
[10:07] <egad> achandra: so what exactly is this proper place? hehehe
[10:08] <hejux> hello
[10:08] <Spaceraver> ehm... how do i find the md5sum for cd ver of 6.06
[10:08] <petrik> Hold on need to register on forum first
[10:08] <egad> hejux: hi
[10:08] <Cyphir> petrik, thanks alot =)
[10:08] <achandra> thats is what we are looking for...where modules get aliased...in ubuntu.. its typically modprobe.conf
[10:08] <hejux> i dont know why when i install ubuntu from network, it default install gnome and all its apps !
[10:08] <achandra> but not too sure...in ubuntu
[10:09] <hejux> i dont want that much apps !
[10:09] <egad> achandra: i found a file called aliases hehe in /etc/modprobe.d/
[10:09] <achandra> ahhhh..
[10:09] <crimsun> /don't/ use modprobe.conf.
[10:09] <hejux> egad,
[10:09] <hejux> hi
[10:09] <achandra> crimsun: okay....so the aliases file is the proper one?
[10:10] <crimsun> achandra: any file under /etc/modprobe.d/
[10:10] <hejux> i install ubuntu using grub ,and why it default install gnome for me ?
[10:10] <hejux> i dont want gnome
[10:10] <spikeb> ubuntu is gnome based
[10:10] <achandra> egad: that file aliases...does it alias any drivers...?
[10:10] <crimsun> achandra: using /etc/modprobe.conf will bypass /etc/modprobe.d/, which I guarantee is semantically /not/ what you want
[10:11] <achandra> agreed...
[10:11] <Cyphir> hejux, if you want a kde based "ubuntu" use kubuntu and if you want an xfce one i think use xbuntu
[10:11] <hejux> it is based on gnome ?
[10:11] <Healot> hejux: grub - boot manager, gnome is the desktop enviroment, not related at all
[10:11] <crimsun> achandra: what do you need modprobe to do?
[10:11] <achandra> crimsun: that is the advice I was looking for...i didnt know how ubuntu deals with it...thanks...
[10:11] <hejux> it cant run without gnome
[10:11] <Cyphir> hejux. gnome is the GUI
[10:12] <achandra> well I need to alias the following alias wlan0 ndiswrapper
[10:12] <hejux> i know !
[10:12] <Cyphir> hejux, so all you want is a command line?
[10:12] <egad> achandra: uhmmm it has 'character devices' and 'misc'  hehe
[10:12] <hejux> i know it , i mean , i want to install ubuntu without any X
[10:12] <hejux> yes , command line
[10:12] <Cyphir> hejux, then
[10:12] <achandra> crumsun: did you get that?
[10:12] <Cyphir> hejux, at the install prompt for ubuntu type "server"
[10:13] <crimsun> achandra: you could append it to aliases if you wish
[10:13] <Cyphir> hejux, when it asks you for type of install type in server insteald of defauly
[10:13] <Cyphir> default*
[10:13] <achandra> ahhhh...nice...
[10:13] <achandra> egad: to the bottom of the aliases file add the following
[10:13] <egad> achandra: ok so what am I to do? and will this blow up my laptop? :cP
[10:14] <achandra> egad: no blow ups...it just wont work if we are wrong...
 the thing is it didnot ask me to type anything
[10:14] <achandra> egad: the interface that is...
[10:14] <egad> achandra: ok ready for action :cP
[10:14] <Cyphir> hejux, i mean put in the installation disk in
[10:14] <achandra> egad: add this - alias wlan0 ndiswrapper
[10:14] <achandra> thats it..
[10:14] <Cyphir> hejux, and reinstall ubuntu
[10:14] <petrik> Cypher: Sorry what was the actual problem you had?
[10:14] <achandra> egad: familiar with vi right?
[10:14] <egad> achandra: done
[10:14] <Cyphir> petrik, i want to move my ext3 linux partition over to me larger Windows partition
[10:15] <egad> achandra: you betcha
[10:15] <Cyphir> petrik, and delete windows
[10:15] <achandra> achandra: now modprobe ndiswrapper again
[10:15] <egad> achandra: done now what? hehe
[10:15] <achandra> iwconfig?
[10:15] <Cyphir> hejux, go  Applications --> Accesories --> Terminal for a command line
[10:16] <egad> 'no wireless extensions' on lo, eth0, and sit0
[10:16] <yggdrasil> hello guys i have a firewall script. and id like it to load up at boot. before most of the other things is it good in rc.d s00 ?
[10:16] <hejux> Cyphir, ok , i install ubuntu this way : first : download netboot mini.iso , extract it , go to dos run grub and then tun kernel **** root=/**** vga=/***  and press enter , then run initrd ****  then , run boot ,
[10:16] <achandra> im wondering do you have to have wireless-tools installed too?
[10:17] <Cyphir> hejux, you didn't install via the install disk?
[10:17] <hejux> yes
[10:17] <egad> achandra: how would I know?
[10:17] <hejux> i dont installed from CD
[10:17] <Cyphir> hejus, are you at the gnome GUI now?
[10:17] <hejux> i install it using grub
[10:17] <Cyphir> hejux, like can you boot into ubuntu now?
[10:17] <achandra> egad: when you type iwconfig...it is a valid command right?
[10:18] <disinterested_pe> i found this site very informative thanks guys https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo
[10:18] <yggdrasil> achandra
[10:18] <yggdrasil> yes
[10:18] <hejux> Cyphir,  well , i didn't continue when it showed that lots of apps being installed
[10:18] <achandra> yggdrasil: yes??
[10:18] <egad> achandra: yes
[10:19] <egad> achandra: thats where im seeing 'no wireless extensions'
[10:19] <Cyphir> hejux, im sorry i can't help you there
[10:19] <hejux> so , i dont have ubuntu  installed on my hard
[10:19] <Cyphir> hejux, what you can do is install an install disk from the site
[10:19] <achandra> weird
[10:19] <petrik> Cypher: Maybe I'm way of the mark here but would delete the windows partion and then use the move icon to move ext3 to it. I am assuming you do not need the data on the windows partition
[10:19] <Ademan> anyone have any clue why oogle's dvd playback might be choppy?
[10:19] <hejux> Cyphir, ok ,i see , thanks
[10:19] <yggdrasil> achandra yea thats the cmd
[10:19] <Cyphir> hejux, and continue until it promps u for install type
[10:19] <achandra> egad: let me take a look at some stuff... its weird...
[10:20] <Cyphir> hejux, when it does type in "server"
[10:20] <nhaines> Hello, everyone.  :)
[10:20] <hejux> Cyphir,  thanks , i see
[10:20] <Cyphir> hejux, no prob
[10:20] <egad> achandra: okie dokie.. im rebooting sometimes it has magical powers :cP
[10:21] <achandra> egad: wait...
[10:21] <yggdrasil> egad your gonna probobly have to take a look at lspci
[10:21] <egad> achandra: oops.. too late.. :c/
[10:21] <achandra> egad: there has to be a tool to add a card...and add it as wlan0
[10:21] <achandra> np..we'll wait it out..
[10:22] <rahul> hello is there anyway to disable the boot screen in ubuntu
[10:22] <achandra> its an hp after all ..
[10:22] <Lunarctic> hola
[10:22] <egad> hehe
[10:22] <Lunarctic> what's a good ubuntu program for making floppy images?
[10:22] <egad> achandra: its taking some time on 'configuring network interfaces'
[10:22] <nhaines> rahul, you mean the graphical splash screen?
[10:22] <achandra> k...
[10:22] <yggdrasil> ive been playing with all the wireless stuff actualy i jsut did a box that sits on my rooftop with a wireless card on it and i route from my lan to it to somones ap
[10:22] <rahul> yes
[10:22] <rahul> how to do that
[10:22] <nhaines> rahul, add "nosplash" to your kernel options, you can add it in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:23] <egad> achandra: ok back
[10:23] <rahul> ok thanx
[10:23] <Nameeater> where would I put fonts I want to use in the GIMP?
[10:23] <achandra> egad: try that iwconfig command again..maybe its there..but doubt it.
[10:23] <egad> achandra: same results hehe
[10:24] <achandra> yeah...hang on for one sec
[10:24] <egad> achandra: the command is there.,.. its just none of my devices are linked to wireless
[10:25] <Lunarctic> im running H080J03
[10:25] <Lunarctic> :)
[10:25] <H080J03> i have no more blank CDs but i need to burn ubuntu to a disk can i just burn a CD iso file to a DVD, would it work?
[10:26] <Lunarctic> you can, but it'd be a waste of space on the disk
[10:26] <H080J03> so it will work?
[10:26] <Lunarctic> you can't unburn it then and it sucks having a dvd with 400megs on it
[10:26] <H080J03> i don't care
[10:26] <achandra> egad: back...google says there is a "network tool"..are you familiar with that..??
[10:26] <Lunarctic> it will work, but its kinda a waste of time
[10:26] <yggdrasil> egad try lspci
[10:26] <Lunarctic> lol, then go for it
[10:26] <H080J03> i have about 300 blank dvds and 0 blank cds
[10:26] <H080J03> k
[10:26] <H080J03> thx
[10:26] <egad> achandra: nope never heard of it
[10:27] <spikeb> haha H080J03
[10:27] <yggdrasil> egad what about ifconfig
[10:27] <Lunarctic> lol
[10:27] <Lunarctic> i have neither
[10:27] <egad> yggdrasil: oh thats a network tool.. uhmm yeah hehe ifconfig works
[10:27] <Lunarctic> but i find that dvd's are a waste of money, coz most stuff comes on multiple cd's anyways
[10:28] <yggdrasil> does ifconfig list your wireless card
[10:28] <H080J03> hey spikeB the copy of drapper idownloaded burnt to my last cd and it got corropted
[10:28] <egad> yggdrasil: nope
[10:28] <yggdrasil> ahh
[10:28] <yggdrasil> do an lspci
[10:28] <H080J03> and i found out it was corrpoted half way thur the install
[10:28] <spikeb> H080J03: that sucks
[10:28] <yggdrasil> and see if you can see your wireless cardd what kinda card is it btw ?
[10:28] <H080J03> so now i am going off of live cds
[10:28] <H080J03> yea i know
[10:28] <H080J03> i am redownloading drapper
[10:28] <Lunarctic> yeah, i downloaded the livecd for dapper, but i can't boot
[10:29] <egad> yggdrasil: yeah at the bottom.. '0000:06:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4318 (rev 02)
[10:29] <Lunarctic> H080 - is it the problem where it boots, but nothing works in graphical?
[10:29] <nhaines> Ouch.  :(  Better to test the integrity before you install!
[10:29] <achandra> egad: lets try something different...are you using dapper?
[10:29] <deadcat> how is wine on amd64bit?
[10:29] <egad> yggdrasil: I also have below it an 'ethernet controller' but i think thats the actual real ethernet hehe
[10:29] <yggdrasil> is it a linksys
[10:29] <egad> achandra: nope 5.10
[10:29] <yggdrasil> linksys wireless card
[10:30] <deadcat> yggdrasil: that doesnt tell us shit.. what chipset?
[10:30] <yggdrasil> broadcom
[10:30] <egad> yggdrasil: no silly.. its a broadcom corporation :cP
[10:30] <Hexidigital_> deadcat:: language please
[10:30] <egad> 4318
[10:30] <deadcat> yggdrasil: ndis
[10:30] <yggdrasil> chek your dmesg and syslog
[10:30] <Hexidigital_> ubotu:: tell yggdrasil about fwcutter
[10:30] <Hexidigital_> ubotu:: tell yggdrasil about bcm43xx
[10:30] <liquidindian> !artsd
[10:30] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, liquidindian
[10:31] <yggdrasil> tell him not me hha i pulled that card out after messing with it for about 2 hours
[10:31] <Lunarctic> rofl
[10:31] <achandra> egad: is 5.10 older than dapper..thats breezy...or??
[10:31] <liquidindian> Is artsd only a KDE thing, not Gnome?
[10:31] <deadcat> is getting wine working with windows apps easy on amd 64 bit?
[10:31] <Ng> achandra: 5.10 is breezy, dapper is 6.06
[10:31] <egad> achandra: yeah breezy
[10:31] <deadcat> liquidindian: true
[10:32] <liquidindian> Does it tell you what apps are using sound in KDE?  Is there an equivalent for Gnome?
[10:32] <achandra> egad: yep we are stuck with ndis.. we'll have to tough it out
[10:33] <egad> achandra: boo hehe im going to try something else.. wish me luck that i dont make matters worse hehehe
[10:33] <Hexidigital_> liquidindian:: just double click the volume icon on your toolbar
[10:33] <deadcat> is there where i ask about 64bit?
[10:33] <Hexidigital_> deadcat:: yes
[10:34] <chimai> 'lo :)
[10:34] <liquidindian> The problem I'm having is here: http://forum.linspire.com/viewtopic.php?t=308559&sid=55dd5d4999a8e19ec6e5d0edb8666dd0
[10:34] <deadcat> hows wine+win apps+64bit? like office and stuff
[10:34] <achandra> egad: did you compile the ndiswrapper from source or ?? use rpm
[10:34] <Hexidigital_> not sure, deadcat, i dont use wine
[10:35] <Hexidigital_> stick around, however, i'm sure someone can answer your question
[10:35] <deadcat> k
[10:35] <achandra> egad: one more question the hp model of laptop?
[10:35] <achandra> egad: still there?
[10:36] <deadcat> achandra: why use the rpm? doesnt ubuntu already have the ndis driver/source?
[10:36] <egad> achandra: yeah im here
[10:36] <egad> achandra: hp dv5020
[10:36] <Hexidigital_> yggdrasil:: are you trying the walkthrough i sent you?
[10:36] <egad> achandra: i download ndiswrapper from sourceforge it was a deb file
[10:37] <yggdrasil> uh its egad hats having the problem
[10:37] <Hexidigital_> ah
[10:37] <yggdrasil> my stuffs running great...
[10:37] <egad> lol
[10:37] <Hexidigital_> egad insists on using ndis.... :(
[10:37] <H080J03> any one know how to kill time??
[10:37] <ubuntu> What's up?
[10:37] <yggdrasil> ive gota box in a 5 gallon bucket on the roof connected to some poor bastards cable ..
[10:37] <Psychotron> Hello! Does anyone know where can I find help for setting up resolutions with Intel 810 onboard ?
[10:38] <achandra> egad: ahhh...okay... i just found something..on the ubuntuforums...where the dude had trouble...and used source to get it all singing..
[10:38] <Ng> H080J03: I think the universe might object to that ;)
[10:38] <Auckland_Pig> how do i get an email address at the end of my nickname instead of an IP address in IRC
[10:38] <Ng> H080J03: what do you mean, exactly?
[10:38] <H080J03> i am waiting for ubuntu to download
[10:38] <H080J03> i am on a live disc
[10:38] <Ng> ah :)
[10:38] <Ng> Applications->Games ;)
[10:38] <deadcat> H080J03: then wait
[10:38] <H080J03> already went thur them all
[10:38] <achandra> egad: see N0ah420 comment -- http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=162853&highlight=ndiswrapper
[10:38] <H080J03> waiting is hard
[10:39] <Psychotron> I'm new with linux. Highest resolution I can get now is 1024x786 and I would like to use 1280... Worked with windows ok.
[10:39] <Hexidigital_> H080J03:: how can you kill time, if time does not exist?
[10:39] <Auckland_Pig> H080J03: wikipedia
[10:39] <H080J03> yea
[10:39] <H080J03> good idea
[10:39] <Hexidigital_> Psychotron:: on a laptop?
[10:39] <deadcat> H080J03: too bad.. if you need to ask someone else how to kill time. you have a problem
[10:39] <Psychotron> No, desktop computer.
[10:39] <H080J03> ill just press the good ol random page button
[10:39] <deadcat> or you just want attention from irc
[10:39] <Hexidigital_> PsyberOne:: intel video chipset?
[10:39] <morphix> so yeh.. how the.. do i display what users are currently in the system using shell?
[10:40] <egad> achandra: his way wont work.. since he is using apt-get for part of it hehe
[10:40] <deadcat> morphix: who
[10:40] <morphix> not who is logged in
[10:40] <Auckland_Pig> how can i backup a few folders on my windows to Ubuntu Server on SSH
[10:40] <deadcat> morphix: cat /etc/passwd
[10:40] <morphix> i mean.. what users the system has.. but i am using SHELL to display it
[10:40] <Psychotron> Intel Video yeah. Integrated to motherboard.
[10:40] <nhaines> Auckland_Pig, get Filezilla on Windows.
[10:40] <achandra> egad: see this part --- ) blacklist bcm43xx
[10:40] <achandra> 2) Remove (with --purge) ndiswrapper
[10:40] <achandra> 3) rm /etc/ndiswrapper and /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[10:40] <achandra> 4) reboot
[10:40] <achandra> 5) download ndiswrapper source
[10:40] <achandra> 6) build and install
[10:40] <deadcat> Auckland_Pig: scp
[10:40] <achandra> sorry..shoulda pastebin that..
[10:41] <Auckland_Pig> nhaines: deadcat: how do i automate it?
[10:41] <Hexidigital_> PsyberOne:: you can try sudo apt-get install 915resolution, or 855resolution (depending on chipset)
[10:41] <deadcat> Auckland_Pig: cron
[10:41] <Hexidigital_> PsyberOne:: than restart X
[10:41] <nhaines> Auckland_Pig: use Samba and cron.
[10:41] <Auckland_Pig> i want to backup some folders on my windows machine.... oh ok
[10:41] <deadcat> is ubuntu gonna be at linuxworld?
[10:41] <Auckland_Pig> !samba
[10:41] <Psychotron> Hexi: Ok. I'll try. Chipset is 810 I think.
[10:41] <ubotu> I heard samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[10:42] <Hexidigital_> PsyberOne:: k... let me know
[10:42] <egad> achandra: i see a problem
[10:42] <achandra> egad: ohh?
[10:42] <Psychotron> ok
[10:42] <calamari> hi
[10:42] <egad> achandra: "It goes without saying that you are using a kernel >= to 2.6.15 to use the bcm43xx driver."
[10:42] <chimai> I'm trying to install vmplayer with the tar.gz and the install script asked me "What is the location of the "gcc" program on your machine?". I installed the "gcc" package with synpatic, and answered "/usr/bin/gcc-4.0". It was a succes.
[10:42] <chimai> But I'm stuck at the next step. It asks me "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] ". I don't know what to do... could you please help me?
[10:43] <Hexidigital_> egad:: why is that a problem?
[10:43] <Hexidigital_> what kernel do you have?
[10:43] <egad> Hexidigital: uname -a says I'm using 2.6.12-9 isnt this older?
[10:43] <Hexidigital_> egad:: uname -r
[10:43] <ikor> chimai: install kernel headers package
[10:43] <calamari> I was copying a very large file when the progress stopped for quite a while, so I tried to cancel, which didn't work, so I force quitted it, but my hd is still on solid and the system is definitely not responding to disk at full speed.  How can I tell gnome to stop copying for real?
[10:43] <achandra> egad: yeah dont click on that link its irrelevent for us..
[10:43] <Hexidigital_> yes, numerically, that would be older
[10:43] <egad> Hexidigital: shows the same kernel number though hehe
[10:44] <deadcat> calamari: kill
[10:44] <achandra> egad: its the stuff above the link that we want to do..
[10:44] <calamari> deadcat: kill what
[10:44] <Hexidigital_> egad:: did you do the sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:44] <deadcat> calamari: PID
[10:44] <achandra> egad: ie use make to compile it etc...
[10:44] <calamari> deadcat: do you know, are you just being sarcastic?
[10:44] <egad> Hexidigital: no.. i have no internet access.. the reason for me trying to get wireless going hehe :cP
[10:44] <Hexidigital_> ugh
[10:44] <deadcat> calamari: ps -ef, look for PID. then kill
[10:45] <Hexidigital_> egad:: that could be a problem
[10:45] <egad> *nods*
[10:45] <deadcat> calamari: that sound sarcastic to you?
[10:45] <calamari> deadcat: I have a bunch of stuff running..
[10:45] <deadcat> calamari: you just said they are not responding
[10:45] <chimai> ikor : ok, i'm taking a look (excuse my english :s )
[10:45] <Auckland_Pig> how do i use cron on my windows machine?
[10:45] <calamari> deadcat: no, I said that I force quitted the copy dialog
[10:46] <achandra> Hexidigital: that was pretty tricky of you asking him a recursive type question/asnwer ;)
[10:46] <deadcat> Auckland_Pig: windows DONT have cron. it has that taskthing
[10:46] <Auckland_Pig> deadcat: ooooo yes.... thank you
[10:46] <achandra> lol
[10:46] <calamari> deadcat: but it apparently didn't stop whatever it was doing with the disk
[10:46] <Hexidigital_> achandra:: what do you mean?? i do that all the time !  :)
[10:46] <achandra> heh
[10:47] <ikor> deadcat: actually you can install cron from cygwin :)
[10:47] <deadcat> ikor: i dont know
[10:47] <achandra> egad: the  source will likely give us a different result.. if you want we can try it..
[10:47] <Ademan_> dpkg and apt-get both trip up on "../../packages.c" line 191... anyone familiar with this problem?
[10:47] <calamari> I see a bunch of [pdflush]  tasks.. wonder if they are related.. there is no man page
[10:48] <zcat[1] > calamari: I'd suggest ps -ax  and look for something that looks like gnome-copy and kill the PID of that..
[10:48] <Auckland_Pig> lazy ubotu....
[10:48] <Auckland_Pig> ubotu are you lazy
[10:48] <ubotu> Auckland_Pig: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:48] <achandra> egad: are you game..or?
[10:48] <Auckland_Pig> !cron
[10:48] <ubotu> methinks cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. There is a HOW-TO located at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[10:49] <zcat[1] > !anacron
[10:49] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zcat[1]
[10:49] <Hexidigital_> !cron
[10:49] <calamari> zcat[1] : thanks, pgrep doesn't seem to find either gnome-copy or copy
[10:49] <Hexidigital_> oh
[10:49] <calamari> perhaps I should just reboot
[10:49] <deadcat> ya
[10:49] <calamari> weird bug.. probably hardware related
[10:50] <zcat[1] > /etc/init.d/gdm restart or ctrl-alt-backspace.. when you kill yourlogin it should kill all the children too.
[10:50] <r0xoR> where are the iptables rule files?
[10:50] <r0xoR> i.e. where i can place my "allow" and "deny" declarations?
[10:50] <egad> achandra: source is what i was using before
[10:51] <egad> achandra: well you mean sourceforge ndis correct?
[10:51] <deadcat> r0xoR: make it yourself. dont think there is such file
[10:51] <zcat[1] > speaking of children, pstree might be more enlightening..
[10:51] <r0xoR> deadcat, ahhh, do you know what the default one is? is there a default?
[10:51] <deadcat> r0xoR: nope.
[10:51] <achandra> egad: okay...i found some more stuff.
[10:52] <deadcat> r0xoR: i dont think there is a default firewall rules
[10:52] <achandra> egad: Open the networking configuration tool System --> Administration --> Networking
[10:52] <deadcat> r0xoR: does iptables -v -L -n show anything?
[10:53] <egad> achandra: uhmm i just did this.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=938505&postcount=15 i bet i hosed it even mroe now by blacklisting ndis :c/
[10:53] <achandra> egad: did you get that?
[10:53] <r0xoR> ahh, does iptables need kernel support?
[10:53] <deadcat> r0xoR: yes
[10:53] <r0xoR> ok
[10:53] <r0xoR> i'll have to recompile then
[10:53] <achandra> egad: what did you??
[10:53] <r0xoR> tha's coo'
[10:53] <egad> achandra: all the commands in that post
[10:54] <Ng> r0xoR: netfilter is available in the default ubuntu kernels, you shouldn't need to recompile
[10:54] <Hexidigital_> egad:: sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils
[10:54] <achandra> see private message
[10:54] <spikeb> damn it
[10:54] <Hexidigital_> and use bcm43
[10:54] <spikeb> Hexidigital_:  that :: stuff makes me think i'm reading perl at first
[10:54] <Hexidigital_> :)
[10:54] <jain> Hi
[10:54] <Hexidigital_> i'm studying perl, spikeb
[10:54] <achandra> egad: go to private message and i have instructions there...
[10:55] <achandra> i just pulled it up..
[10:55] <egad> achandra: what pm? dont have any yet
[10:55] <Hexidigital_> egad:: are you registered?
[10:55] <egad> Hexidigital_: did that .. now where is bcm43?
[10:55] <Hexidigital_> on freenode?
[10:56] <egad> Hexidigital: nope
[10:56] <Hexidigital_> ubotu:: tell egad about register
[10:56] <Hexidigital_> ubotu:: tell egad about bcm43xx
[10:56] <Hexidigital_> yeah, guess that won't work
[10:56] <Hexidigital_> !register
[10:56] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:56] <Hexidigital_> !bcm43xx
[10:56] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[10:57] <achandra> egad: we'll work on it in here..
[10:57] <egad> ok registered
[10:59] <Hexidigital_> one more smoke, then bedtime for me
[10:59] <Hexidigital_> ubotu:: tell egad about bcm43xx
[10:59] <Hexidigital_> egad:: follow those directions
[10:59] <achandra> pulled up the same ones..yep..
[11:02] <Hexidigital_> nite fellow ubuntu-ers
[11:02] <Unenvarjo> good morning :)
[11:06] <Schalken> hi!
[11:06] <selinium> How can you find out what is using a particular resource   /dev/dsp
[11:06] <deadcat> selinium: fuser -v /dev/dsp
[11:07] <jain> Hi
[11:07] <selinium> deadcat: Cheers!
[11:07] <jain> I need some help
[11:07] <deadcat> jain: give me a min. i am reading your mind as we speak
[11:07] <jain> I am having problems with hibernating and switch user
[11:07] <jain> with fglrx
[11:08] <jain> the screen doesnot resume
[11:08] <jain> in hibernate case
[11:08] <jain> and for switching user the computer just freezes when I try
[11:09] <philc> I just plugged in a usb gamepad. What device should it be?
[11:09] <jain> Anyone?
[11:09] <egad> jain: i could be wrong but i dont believe fglrx supports hibernating ??
[11:09] <r0xoR> Mg, heheh... maybe *you* shouldn't have to recompile
[11:09] <smack> hey dudes I just upgraded to dapper and when my desktop comes up my gnome-panel is pure white for a second before my theme applies.
[11:09] <nhaines> I don't think you can hibernate with fglrx at all.
[11:10] <jain> egad: Is it so?
[11:10] <r0xoR> Mg, but i've got a custom compiled kernel, so yes, i have to recompile
[11:10] <jain> it worked in FC5 when i was using it
[11:10] <H080J03> i am running a live cd and my computer is going really really slow
[11:10] <jain> I can hibernate, problem with resuming at last step, it shows the mouse pointer
[11:10] <jain> and then it hangs
[11:11] <deadcat> H080J03: its live cd. ofcourse its slow
[11:11] <thoreauputic> H080J03: and this surprises you?
[11:11] <H080J03> what can i do to speed it up
[11:11] <H080J03> no
[11:11] <Ng> r0xoR: *N*g. and why do you?
[11:11] <H080J03> it is super slow
[11:11] <deadcat> load them all into memory
[11:11] <deadcat> H080J03: your cdrom sucks then
[11:11] <r0xoR> oh right
[11:11] <r0xoR> Ng
[11:11] <H080J03> i can type faster then the words apaer
[11:11] <Ng> H080J03: you could check DMA is enabled on the CD drive
[11:12] <r0xoR> Ng, three closed source drivers... two nvidia, one for my sound card
[11:12] <Ng> but that's unlikely to be slowing your typing
[11:12] <r0xoR> kinda sucks but oh well
[11:12] <thoreauputic> H080J03: what are the specs of yourmachine? CPU? RAM?
[11:12] <egad> jain: ati?
[11:12] <H080J03> what is DMS
[11:13] <Ng> r0xoR: no way of building them against the default kernel?
[11:13] <jain> egad: with ati things are OK
[11:13] <H080J03> p4 768 ram
[11:13] <r0xoR> H080J03, http://www.hightechbuzzwords.com/
[11:13] <thoreauputic> H080J03: DMA = Direct Memory Access
[11:13] <H080J03> i am not even gonna try going there
[11:13] <H080J03> oh ok
[11:13] <r0xoR> Mg, hahahah... um, no
[11:13] <Ng> H080J03: I'm tempted to suggest that the live CD is using a slow, but compatible graphics card driver. what kind of card do you have?
[11:13] <r0xoR> dang... Ng, sorry
[11:13] <Ng> r0xoR: *N*! and that surprises me, especially the nvidia ones
[11:13] <thoreauputic> H080J03: a p4 should handle a live CD easily with that much ram
[11:13] <jain> but i wand 3D acceleration
[11:14] <H080J03> Nvida geForce 5200
[11:14] <r0xoR> Ng, meh, it's not the nvidia ones that matter
[11:14] <r0xoR> anyway
[11:14] <H080J03> yea that is what i am thinkin
[11:14] <tubbie> H080J03, it is supported
[11:14] <egad> jain: right.. the ati drivers support hibernating.. fglrx does not
[11:14] <Ng> H080J03: after you've installed properly, come back here and ask about getting the nvidia drivers installed, should help things :)
[11:15] <H080J03> i know how to install the drivers and stuff
[11:15] <egad> jain: its a trade off.. either 3d support or hibernation support
[11:15] <thoreauputic> H080J03: run "top" in a terminal to see what's eating your resources
[11:15] <H080J03> but i can't work with the live CD being this slow
[11:15] <tubbie> H080J03, don't expect a very fast system froma  livecd
[11:15] <jain> egad: hmm, I was using fedora core 5 before, and it worked there. I thoght it would work in ubuntu too
[11:15] <H080J03> yea i expect one faster then the one i am in
[11:16] <H080J03> it feels like windows ME
[11:16] <thoreauputic> H080J03: kill whatever process is slowing you down - but live CDs are never fast
[11:16] <tubbie> H080J03, what's your hardware spec?
[11:16] <egad> jain: query the ubuntuforums.org site.. I recall seeing something about this on there recently..
[11:16] <jain> egad: though fglrx was not working with previous version of fedora
[11:16] <H080J03> p4 2.5ghz768ram
[11:16] <jain> egad: Okay
[11:16] <tubbie> H080J03, demonoid/
[11:16] <tubbie> ?
[11:16] <Rene_J> hi, i am using the filer gentoo under ubuntu. sadly copying files does not work anymore. i guess the reason are utf filenames (possible?)
[11:17] <H080J03> sup tubbie
[11:17] <thoreauputic> Rene_J: possible - I don't knowif gentoo supports utf-8
[11:17] <tubbie> H080J03, why are you not in #demonoid?
[11:18] <H080J03> cuz my computer is to slow to open up any more channles
[11:18] <H080J03> in fact i have typed this and sent it to you but i can't see it
[11:18] <tubbie> so slow?
[11:18] <Rene_J> is it even possible if i copy filenames that dont contain any special characters?
[11:18] <tubbie> H080J03, I can fix it for you if you sned it to me
[11:18] <H080J03> really really slow like ME slow
[11:19] <tubbie> send*
[11:19] <tubbie> lol
[11:19] <thoreauputic> Rene_J: don't know - I haven't used gentoo filer for years
[11:19] <tubbie> H080J03, do you have a free partition?
[11:19] <H080J03> yea
[11:20] <H080J03> i have a free hard drive
[11:20] <H080J03> screw it
[11:20] <Doat> How can i access my Nokia mobile phone's memory with ubuntu? Nothing happens when i plug it in with an USB cable.
[11:20] <Ademan_> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/46530
[11:21] <jivah> hello all
[11:21] <nhaines> hello, jivah.
[11:21] <jivah> can someone help me to install my printer which is not recognized by linux
[11:21] <jivah> it's a dell all in one 922
[11:22] <tubbie> jimMmy, google it
[11:22] <jivah> the driver only exists for windows
[11:22] <tubbie> jivah, ^^
[11:22] <thoreauputic> Ademan: cannot reproduce this bug here - have you checked your apt configuration?
[11:22] <jivah> tubbie, done
[11:22] <jivah> tubbie, no answer
[11:23] <Ademan_> thoreauputic: nope, i honestly have no clue how it came about, i havent touched my config for any of that
[11:23] <tubbie> jivah, contact Dell for support
[11:23] <Ademan_> how do i check my apt config anyways?
[11:23] <thoreauputic> Ademan: edited your sourcesat all?
[11:23] <jivah> tubbie, done noway
[11:23] <thoreauputic> *sources
[11:23] <Ademan_> thoreauputic: yeah, but only though the GUI, just checked multiverse thats all
[11:23] <javiolo> hi
[11:24] <thoreauputic> Ademan: pastebin  your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:24] <tubbie> jivah, you can use a printer driver that's closeto yours
[11:24] <tubbie> some times it works
[11:24] <jivah> tubbie,  my question is is there a generic driver
[11:24] <javiolo> what mail clients do yo recommend me? I hate evolution, its very slow...
[11:24] <jivah> tubbie, which one
[11:24] <tubbie> dunnno
[11:24] <thoreauputic> javiolo: Sylpheed
[11:24] <tubbie> ask dell
[11:25] <jivah> tubbie, thaks for your help
[11:25] <Ademan_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/JaIWlu36.html
[11:25] <thoreauputic> Ademan: looking
[11:25] <Ademan_> it really doesnt seem like it should have anythign to do with my sources
[11:25] <javiolo> is there any way to uninstall evolution ?
[11:26] <javiolo> thoreaputic thanks! Im downloading right now
[11:26] <jain> A small question
[11:26] <jain> If I don't want my computer to get locked every time I resume from hibernate what should I do?
[11:26] <liquidindian> If I use a live CD on a windows machine, can I access NTFS drive?
[11:26] <nhaines> javiolo, I prefer Thunderbird.  I don't recommend uninstalling evolution, though.
[11:26] <liquidindian> Not to write, just to read.
[11:26] <nhaines> liquidindian, yes you can, but only read-only.
[11:26] <enquest> how do I erase a RW cd in Gnome?
[11:27] <liquidindian> nhaines so there's a possibilty I could use it to rescue his data?
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Ademan: I suggest you remove the us.fromall lines, and addthe word multiverseat the end of all universe lines, update and try again
[11:27] <H080J03> i lied
[11:27] <javiolo> nhaines I need a fast email client
[11:27] <nhaines> liquidindian, It is a possibility, yes.
[11:27] <H080J03> i didn't bust out with the gentoo CD i lost it
[11:27] <Ademan_> apt-get --update ?
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Ademan: it might be an issue with trhe us. archive
[11:27] <Doat> How can i access my Nokia mobile phone's memory with ubuntu? Nothing happens when i plug it in with an USB cable.
[11:27] <nhaines> javiolo, Thunderbird is fast enuogh for me, but it's also cross-platform, which is why I use it.
[11:28] <thoreauputic> Ademan: sudo apt-get update
[11:28] <H080J03> but i put the CD in my other CD rom drive that has DMA
[11:28] <liquidindian> nhaines, I hope I can come across as some techie wizard if it works :)
[11:28] <nhaines> liquidindian, Use the System>Help menu, and then try the Ubuntu Starter Guide for the appropriate commands to mount the NTFS partition.    Just make sure to right-click and eject the icon for the USB drive before disconnecting it!
[11:29] <Ademan_> i wouldnt have ANY sources then...
[11:30] <nhaines> javiolo, I haven't used evolution.
[11:30] <H080J03> i have the live CD in my CD burner
[11:30] <thoreauputic> Ademan: umm - uncomment means remove the #
[11:30] <H080J03> and this is gonna be a prob
[11:30] <Ademan_> lol
[11:30] <Ademan_> sorry
[11:30] <liquidindian> nhaines, got it.
[11:30] <Ademan_> i'm watching platoon at the same time
[11:30] <thoreauputic> Ademan: I don't think you understand how this works...
[11:30] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:30] <tubbie> H080J03, got 2 cdrom there?
[11:30] <Ademan_> understand how what works?
[11:30] <heidrich> hi!
[11:30] <H080J03> yea
[11:30] <heidrich> any tool to edit fstab?
[11:30] <H080J03> one burns and one don't
[11:31] <tubbie> us e the don't one to boot up
[11:31] <thoreauputic> Ademan: stop watching platoon and concentrate onthe task at hand :D
[11:31] <H080J03> the one that don't makes the live CD run like Windows ME
[11:31] <Ademan_> hehe
[11:31] <heidrich> not editors, thats ok for me, but not perfect for dummies.
[11:31] <Ademan_> i just read uncomment as comment thats all
[11:31] <tubbie> H080J03, ok, but you can download the cd now
[11:31] <tubbie> and then reboot to burn it
[11:31] <nhaines> heidrich, there's an application under System>Administration.  Disks, maybe.
[11:31] <heidrich> negativ!!
[11:31] <thoreauputic> Ademan: You need to up your IQ a few points - I suggest listening to Mozart
[11:31] <heidrich> can not set mount options.
[11:32] <thoreauputic> ;P
[11:32] <H080J03> yea i am downloading it, but how i am i gonna burn it?
[11:32] <tubbie> H080J03, use gnomebaker
[11:32] <H080J03> umm
[11:32] <H080J03> my live CD is in my Cd burner
[11:33] <petrik> What is the best file format to go for when formatting a drive?
[11:33] <Ademan_> ok so now the only sources i have enabled are the security ones
[11:33] <H080J03> petrik: go with ext3
[11:33] <thoreauputic> H080J03: downloading an ISO with a live CD won't work unless you save it to your hard disk or have insane amounts of RAM
[11:33] <H080J03> oh
[11:33] <tubbie> H080J03, after you finsihed downloading, reboot so you can use your cd burner
[11:34] <dli> petrik, there's no such obivious "best" :)
[11:34] <heidrich> anyone using ntfs for read/write?
[11:34] <thoreauputic> H080J03: live CDs use a ramdisk
[11:34] <H080J03> hey tubbie if i reboot the download goes away
[11:34] <H080J03> grr
[11:34] <tubbie> H080J03, no, you can put it on your HD
[11:34] <thoreauputic> H080J03: correct
[11:34] <H080J03> sooo
[11:34] <tubbie> just ermount your hd with rw
[11:34] <H080J03> i am i gonna install an OS?
[11:34] <tubbie> remount
[11:34] <heidrich> install creates defauilts option, which is ro, and unreadable for users!
[11:34] <H080J03> hmm
[11:34] <Doat> How can i access my Nokia mobile phone's memory with ubuntu? Nothing happens when i plug it in with an USB cable.
[11:35] <petrik> (Well what is the difference between them all?)  then when I have done that how can I get some of my stuff moved to the new drive? eg /home
[11:35] <heidrich> sudo remount is ok for a single time.
[11:35] <klerfayt> will the nvidia-glx package going to be updated to the latest?
[11:35] <dli> petrik, you can simply, " cp -a " the folders
[11:35] <Mortal`> Is there a command to set the contents of the clipboard?
[11:35] <nhaines> klerfayt, if it hasn't been done yet, it surely won't be done before October!
[11:36] <spikeb> dapper froze on upstream versioning a while ago
[11:36] <klerfayt> nhaines: why? are you sure about dapper?
[11:36] <nhaines> klerfayt, Dapper comes out in a week.  There won't be any major changes now.
[11:37] <klerfayt> well on then I think I'll use "nv" then
[11:37] <klerfayt> lol
[11:37] <klerfayt> lot's of "then"s
[11:37] <nhaines> klerfayt, the best thing then to do is to check the forums for the XGl repository someone made.  :)
[11:37] <tubbie> H080J03, how are youdownloading the file?
[11:37] <nhaines> It has frequent updates for dapper.
[11:37] <H080J03> no
[11:37] <H080J03> i stoped it
[11:38] <H080J03> till i get my HD mounted
[11:38] <tubbie> H080J03, god. now just mount your HD first
[11:38] <klerfayt> err I'm talking about nvidia driver
[11:38] <klerfayt> not xgl
[11:38] <Mortal`> Is there a command to set the contents of the clipboard?
[11:38] <nhaines> Oh!  I misunderstood.  Yeah, then you'll have to compile yourself or use nv.
[11:39] <klerfayt> nhaines: why? cause nvidia driver won't be updated to the latest?
[11:39] <javiolo> nhaines thanks thunderbird works great!
[11:40] <thoreauputic> ompaul: ping?
[11:40] <nhaines> klerfayt, right. Whatever's in dapper now is going to be in 6.06 on Thursday.
[11:40] <nhaines> javiolo, I'm glad you like it.  :)
[11:41] <ompaul> thoreauputic, pong
[11:42] <rick_> does anyone know how i can get my xfire for gaim actually 'in gaim?
[11:42] <Doat> How can i access my Nokia mobile phone's memory with ubuntu? Nothing happens when i plug it in with an USB cable.
[11:42] <petrik> What other directories would be good to move? Want to make it like I had under M$ OS seperated from programs and data seperate again. Though I beleive linux works in an entirely different way
[11:44] <Hmmmm> hi guys, i have an amd geode based device. I can't get ubuntu to boot on it. Any idea how to get ubuntu install on it?
[11:44] <beta_m> i have an ubuntu machine and after i've put 2 extra harddrives in it stopped booting. It comes to "Uncompressing kernel. OK. Booting kernel" and freezes. Live CD works fine. I didn't change the place of the boot partition (it was and still is hda1).
[11:44] <H080J03> k
[11:45] <H080J03> mounted the hard drive and now i am downloading
[11:45] <petrik> When you install software in linux does it wind it in to the operating system like it does in windoze
[11:45] <beta_m> petrik, what are you using to install?
[11:45] <onderhoudsman> hallo
[11:46] <onderhoudsman> is er iemand on line???
[11:46] <H080J03> hallo
[11:46] <beta_m> if it's the programme's personal install, you don't know what it's doing. But if you are using package mannager, then you can always undo.
[11:46] <nhaines> Ja, wir sind online.  :)
[11:46] <onderhoudsman> praat u nederland???
[11:46] <nhaines> Nein, ich spreche nur auf Englisch und auf Deutsch.
[11:46] <onderhoudsman> ok englisch
[11:47] <tubbie> H080J03, :)
[11:47] <onderhoudsman> dus u talk englisch
[11:47] <H080J03> tubbie
[11:47] <nhaines> Would be best.  :)
[11:47] <H080J03> oh ok
[11:47] <petrik> Well under windoze I started formatting in partitions to safeguard against windoze going belly up. OS on one partition, installed software on another, data on yet another
[11:47] <tubbie> H080J03, I'm with you
[11:47] <ompaul> !de
[11:47] <beta_m> so does anybody have any idea about what happened to my machine?
[11:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[11:47] <onderhoudsman> do your runescape??
[11:47] <Mortal`> Is there a command to set the contents of the clipboard?
[11:47] <ompaul> !nl
[11:47] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[11:47] <tubbie> H080J03, how are you downlaoding the file?
[11:47] <H080J03> wget
[11:48] <tubbie> don't forget to tell ffoc to save it on your HD
[11:48] <H080J03> that is how
[11:48] <tubbie> oh, :)
[11:48] <petrik> Having the installed software on a seperate partition was really not much use as it integrated it's files into windoze anyhow
[11:48] <petrik> I'm still trying figure out how to install stuff
[11:48] <nhaines> I don't run runescape, sorry.
[11:49] <beta_m> petrik:  what are you talking about? what has integrated itself into windows?
[11:49] <H080J03> hey petrik you install stuff with packages
[11:49] <nhaines> petrik: to install anything, either use System>Administration>Synaptic, or use Applications>Add Applications
[11:50] <H080J03> or download a .deb of the file you want to install
[11:50] <petrik> some I done with the inbuilt pakage manager and others with ubuntu .deb packages
[11:50] <H080J03> good
[11:50] <H080J03> for other stuff you need to complie it
[11:50] <H080J03> which is not hard at all
[11:51] <H080J03> just unzip the source and run the config file
[11:51] <H080J03> and the config file will tell you everything you need to get and do to comple it
[11:51] <petrik> there is a driver for which I have only been able to download source and I don't know how to compile it. Tried to follow some instuctions but did not work failing all the time
[11:52] <H080J03> open bash in the directory of the thing you want to install
[11:52] <H080J03> and then run ./config
[11:53] <H080J03> and it will run into errors, probly saying you need stuff like gcc
[11:53] <H080J03> but everything it says you need can be found in the packge manger
[11:54] <petrik> Beta: nothing is intrigating with windows. Was reffering to how windoze works and how I had it set up. (not anymore now I'm on linux)
[11:54] <H080J03> good thing your on linux 2
[11:54] <petrik> Can I do a dump of my attempt here?
[11:55] <H080J03> umm
[11:55] <H080J03> an attempt of what?
[11:55] <Ng> petrik: use a pastebin
[11:55] <Ng> !tell petrik about pastebin
[11:57] <beta_m> OK, i'm sorry for repeating some of the stuff. I have an ubuntu machine with 2.6.12-10 686-smp kernel, it was working fine until i've added some extra harddrives to it. And now right after it starts loading the kernel, the machine freezes. What can be the cause of that. I need at least an idea or something, i don't want to reinstall the whole thing.
[11:57] <beta_m> and i almost forgot, live CD works.
[11:57] <beta_m> so it's nothing wrong with the machine itself
[11:57] <ompaul> H080J03, your not accurate in your help for ubuntu users :-)
[11:58] <thoreauputic> H080J03: please be sure before yougive advice :0
[11:58] <nhaines> beta_m, make sure you didn't move the drive that has Ubuntu installed on it or change its jumper settings..
[11:58] <Auckland_Pig> !ssh
[11:58] <ubotu> [ssh]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[11:58] <Auckland_Pig> !sshd
[11:58] <ubotu> from memory, sshd is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[11:58] <beta_m> nhaines:  i did make sure of that
[11:58] <ompaul> H080J03, almost 100% of packages are available in repos, they just have to be enabled :-)
[11:58] <beta_m> it was and is hda1
[11:58] <H080J03> hmm
[11:58] <banjo_rrte> hi, ive got a problem upgrading to breezy on a dialup line.  I download 700+Mb (3 days) and then when that download fails it *deletes* all the packages - forcing me to download them all over again.  I tried with apt-get -d dist-upgrade, but it still deletes all my downloaded debs, ouch, help?
[11:58] <H080J03> almost
[11:58] <H080J03> that is the magic word
[11:59] <H080J03> i find lots of things not in the repos
[11:59] <nhaines> Auckland_Pig, installing package "ssh" does also install sshd.
[11:59] <H080J03> like XGL
[11:59] <H080J03> but XGL is in the new repos
[11:59] <achandra> hello. my resolution didnt come up right when i installed dapper. and dropped to init 3. can someone help out with how to get x working.
[11:59] <Auckland_Pig> nhaines: how do i start ssh server during booting?
[11:59] <ompaul> XGL well that is a dapper thing not a breezy thing
[11:59] <nhaines> Auckland_Pig, install ssh.
[11:59] <H080J03> yea
[11:59] <petrik> Where in Auckland AP?
[11:59] <H080J03> and there are other things
[11:59] <Auckland_Pig> petrik: northshore
[12:00] <H080J03> i don't think wine is in there
[12:00] <ompaul> H080J03, it is a bit like asking about 2.14 gnome for breezy this is a timed release
[12:00] <Auckland_Pig> nhaines: but will ssh server always start on boot?
[12:00] <petrik> Want to come over and help here?
[12:00] <thoreauputic> Auckland_Pig: yes
[12:00] <beta_m> H080J03:  i think wine is there
[12:00] <Auckland_Pig> oh thanks
[12:00] <H080J03> hm
[12:00] <nhaines> Auckland_Pig, yes, until you later disable it.  You don't even have to reboot after you install ssh.  :)
[12:00] <beta_m> but you have to enable some repository for it
[12:00] <Auckland_Pig> nhaines: thanks :)
[12:00] <thoreauputic> Auckland_Pig: when you install it it makes the start up scripts
[12:00] <H080J03> i always downloaded the package from source forge
[12:01] <Auckland_Pig> petrik: where you from?
[12:01] <achandra> how do i configure X.. I got dropped to shell..when installing dapper.??
[12:01] <tubbie> H080J03, it won't make a big difference in performance if u compile form source
[12:01] <tubbie> just a waste of ti me
[12:01] <thoreauputic> H080J03: wine is in the repos
[12:01] <ompaul> H080J03, wine is in the repo
[12:01] <nhaines> achandra, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:01] <H080J03> oh ok
[12:01] <thoreauputic> !info wine
[12:01] <ompaul> !repos
[12:01] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:01] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14131 kB, Installed size: 55484 kB
[12:01] <gr8rahul> achandra: dpkg-i reconfigure xserver
[12:01] <H080J03> oh
[12:01] <H080J03> i see
[12:02] <ompaul> !enter
[12:02] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:02] <petrik> Out west Te Atatu
[12:02] <H080J03> hmm
[12:02] <H080J03> there are other things
[12:02] <tubbie> ok ubotu
[12:02] <thoreauputic> H080J03: for heaven's sake - just accept that you don't know
[12:02] <H080J03> k
[12:02] <H080J03> i don't know
[12:02] <H080J03> but i am thinkn
[12:02] <GnarusLeo> If  I go to kubuntu.org and download the iso, will I get the new dapper thingy then?
[12:03] <H080J03> lol
[12:03] <_nano_> Hi, could any one tell me which process mounts my USB drive?
[12:03] <nhaines> GnarusLeo, no, Ubuntu 6.06 LTS comes out on Thursday, 1 June 2006.
[12:03] <H080J03> hmm
[12:03] <H080J03> i am really thinkn
[12:03] <ompaul> H080J03,  add the repos look it up in synaptic and check out RestrictedFormats and Skype on the wiki and then enjoy
[12:03] <petrik> ./config gives no such file or directory error
[12:03] <[nige] > hi al
[12:03] <H080J03> it is like 3am here and i have no stable computer
[12:03] <[nige] > i have lost dig.....
[12:03] <tubbie> petrik, ./configure
[12:03] <thoreauputic> petrik: you want ./configure
[12:03] <H080J03> it is very hard to think
[12:03] <[nige] > its not longer on my system. any ideas?
[12:03] <red_> hello
[12:04] <thoreauputic> petrik: don't listen to H080J03 - he's having a bad hair day
[12:04] <H080J03> yea
[12:04] <petrik> same thing happens there
[12:04] <H080J03> he is right
[12:04] <H080J03> i am going dumb
[12:04] <H080J03> oh yea!!
[12:04] <ompaul> H080J03, cease while your ahead
[12:04] <H080J03> now i am smart with this new ram
[12:04] <tubbie> H080J03, you need to replace your celeron too
[12:05] <tubbie> Pecisk, read readme
[12:05] <_nano_> I don't see any entries regarding my usb drive in the fstab file, but it still gets mounted when I plug it in...how is it so?
[12:05] <tubbie> petrik, ^^
[12:05] <gr8rahul> _nano_ .hotpluggin ..
[12:05] <kholerabbi> hey, how do I install the Gaim Beta 3 on ubuntu 5.20?
[12:06] <thoreauputic> tubbie: I think it mustbe a 486 ;)
[12:06] <e1ko> hello
[12:06] <marlijs> nano take a look at the /etc/mtab
[12:06] <tubbie> :)
[12:06] <_nano_> marlijs, but mtab only keeps tab of already mounted files
[12:06] <_nano_> gr8rahul, where is that file located?
[12:06] <e1ko> I need to execute 1 script every time my ip is changed via dhcp, where should I put this script, please?
[12:07] <gr8rahul> /etc/hotplug
[12:07] <marlijs> nano, so what do you want to see the?
[12:07] <petrik> I'm doing something wrong. Opened terminal. Went to the folder. Did ./configure and got error the package is spca5xx-20060501
[12:07] <_nano_> marlijs, the problem is my usb drive is not automounted if it's already connected before booting....
[12:07] <GnarusLeo> and will it be easy to update my distro to the 1.juny release?
[12:07] <zcat[1] > apparently vista is going to be delayed a little more.. hahaha!
[12:08] <_nano_> marlijs, i have some script that need access to the usb drive once I log in...hence i need to automount it..
[12:08] <tubbie> old news
[12:08] <GnarusLeo> nhaines, will it be easy to update to the 1.juny release? Im not sure I want to reinstall the whole thing
[12:08] <tubbie> H080J03, still downloading?
[12:08] <tubbie> H080J03, are you pip`?
[12:08] <H080J03> yea
[12:09] <H080J03> i am still downloading
[12:09] <zcat[1] > yeah, and entirely predictable.. anyone taking bets on when it will actually be out? I guess all the people who predicted mid 2004 had better pay up already :)
[12:09] <marlijs> nano, I am not shure, but is you see your usbflash in /etc/mtab - then copy it to fstab and it should mount it on startup
[12:09] <H080J03> i am searching google for things not in ubuntus repos
[12:09] <nhaines> GnarusLeo, it will be very simple.  Update Manager will notify you with an "upgrade" button.
[12:09] <GnarusLeo> even in kubuntu?
[12:09] <beta_m> ok, this doesn't make sense. i can boot with live CD, but Install CD also freezes after attempting to boot up the kernel
[12:09] <achandra> basic question...5.1.0 is the stable version and dapper is not or?
[12:09] <tubbie> I hope the will pussh it back to end 2007!
[12:10] <tubbie> they*
[12:10] <Lozzy`> hey, I was thinking of switching to Ubuntu looking at the new review of 6.06 in LFX. My only concern is support for my beloved iPod.
[12:10] <Lozzy`> I'm using Windows atm, and all my music is in AAC.
[12:10] <_nano_> marlijs, i was thinking of doing that, i was only wondering if that would conflict with some other process...since it gets mounted without any entry in the fstab
[12:10] <zcat[1] > 'another few weeks' - that would be about April or May, right?
[12:10] <nhaines> GnarusLeo, yes, the KDE update manger should do it too.
[12:10] <tubbie> Lozzy`, it should work
[12:10] <GnarusLeo> ok, sweet, thanks nhaines  :)
[12:10] <Lozzy`> Justworktm?
[12:11] <e1ko> should I put my script into /etc/hotplug/net.ifup?
[12:11] <nhaines> You're welcome.  :)  Also, just downloading the CD and putting it in your computer the first time while Kubuntu is running should make it ask if you want to upgrade.  :)  But using the update tool should be better--they wrote a program specially for upgrading.
[12:11] <zcat[1] > Lozzy`: put Linux on your ipod, then it can play ogg's
[12:12] <POVaddct> Lozzy`: i use my iPod nano with retune (python script, mp3 only). there is also gtkpod, which has a gui.
[12:12] <marlijs> nano. there is only one way to find out :), if something goes wrong - you van comment it out
[12:12] <_nano_> marlijs, right on :) ..trying that out :D
[12:13] <Lozzy`> My iPod can play oggs?
[12:13] <Lozzy`> With linux?
[12:13] <Determinist> !w32codecs
[12:13] <ubotu> a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[12:13] <zcat[1] > there's a port of mklinux for the ipod, yes. But I'd probably just stick with mp3's myself...
[12:13] <tubbie> Lozzy`,  he says yo can put Linux on your ipod
[12:14] <tubbie> it is called Ipod linux I think
[12:14] <Lozzy`> Cool
[12:14] <Lozzy`> I imagine I could just port all my AACs to mp3s
[12:14] <GnarusLeo> I get this error when I try to get the newest amarok (have added the new rep ot sources.list) The following packages have been kept back:
[12:14] <GnarusLeo>   amarok amarok-engines amarok-xine krita libxine1c2 update-manager
[12:14] <zcat[1] > not sure, you might have to burn them to cd and rip them again if they're drm'ed
[12:15] <kholerabbi> How do I know warty hoary breezy or dapper?
[12:15] <nhaines> Rockbox is supposed to be pretty nice with iPods.  It's also easy to revert back to factory firmware.
[12:15] <BazziR> GnarusLeo: do a dist-upgrade
[12:15] <GnarusLeo> BazziR, how?
[12:15] <spikeb> rockbox is a bit unstable
[12:15] <BazziR> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:15] <petrik> Ok I put it in paste bin
[12:15] <GnarusLeo> ah :) Thanks
[12:16] <Lozzy`> looking at rockbox site now
[12:17] <Lozzy`> what other alternatives are there?
[12:17] <Blippe> rockbox rox
[12:17] <spikeb> rockbox and ipodlinux are the only two i know of
[12:17] <petrik> I notice when someone replies to me it comes up in red in this irc. How does that work?
[12:18] <gr8rahul> petrik .. clour can be set
[12:18] <gr8rahul> hi
[12:19] <nhaines> petrik, if your name is on a line, it's red, that's all.  :)
[12:20] <GnarusLeo> BazziR, I did the upgrade .. but still: The following packages have been kept back:
[12:20] <GnarusLeo>   amarok amarok-engines amarok-xine
[12:20] <achandra> besides manually configuring the xf86  file is there a tool from command line to configure X or autodetect..my X  is not coming up..
[12:20] <BazziR> GnarusLeo: dist-upgrade shouldn't keep anything back
[12:20] <GnarusLeo> hm
[12:21] <nhaines> GnarusLeo, if that doesn't work, run Synaptic and tell it to "mark all upgrades."
[12:21] <marlijs> GnarusLeo, try apt-get install amarok amarok-engines
[12:21] <petrik> Ok. It makes it a lot easier to follow
[12:21] <Donvinzk> anyone using scilab here ?
[12:21] <GnarusLeo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:21] <GnarusLeo>   amarok: Depends: libexscalibar1 but it is not going to be installed
[12:21] <viper12> Is anyone currently testing tseliot's nvidia scripts?  just used it (testing version for dapper 6.06) and it works...until you reboot.  then I get an api mismatch. (7174).
[12:21] <BazziR> a-ha :)
[12:22] <GnarusLeo> BazziR :)
[12:22] <BazziR> GnarusLeo: you on breezy?
[12:22] <GnarusLeo> yes
[12:22] <BazziR> and which version of amarok do you try to install?
[12:22] <GnarusLeo> 4.1
[12:22] <BazziR> won't work
[12:22] <BazziR> upgrade to dapper for amarok 1.4
[12:22] <GnarusLeo> sorry, 1.4
[12:23] <GnarusLeo> oh .. ok, how do I update to dapper?
[12:23] <GnarusLeo> using kubuntu
[12:23] <BazziR> wait a week for the final
[12:23] <BazziR> then replace any breezy in your sources.list to dapper
[12:23] <GnarusLeo> 1.june? :) Ok .. I will, thanks bazzir
[12:23] <BazziR> do a dist-upgrade and be done :)
[12:23] <GnarusLeo> thanks again
[12:23] <pc14>  putas
[12:24] <Drake62> slt
[12:24] <pc14> zorra
[12:24] <pc14> descompuesta
[12:24] <Drake62> a va bien ?
[12:24] <viper12> Is anyone currently testing tseliot's nvidia scripts?  just used it (testing version for dapper 6.06) and it works...until you reboot.  then I get an api mismatch. (7174).
[12:24] <petrik> So as you get more programs how can you keep hold of them all? Once they are installed how can you get a copy on disk for when you require a reformat or get a new PC?
[12:24] <pc14> si
[12:24] <pc14> bonjuor
[12:25] <nhaines> GnarusLeo, no, don't change anything in your sources.list.  You'll be offered the choice to upgrade as soon as Ubuntu 6.06 LTS is released.
[12:25] <pc14> comment tu aperlle
[12:25] <quentin> hello
[12:25] <BazziR> petrik: I write everything I install into a kubtuntu-packages.txt and after a reformat etc I just install everything in that document :)
[12:25] <quentin> yay i wam finally able to join this thing
[12:27] <pc14> oqa
[12:27] <pc14> olaaaaaa
[12:27] <marlijs> viper12, you are in a wrong chat, read heading
[12:27] <petrik> BazziR, Yeah but where do you get it from. What if you get something you are relying on and the repos no longer has it. I prefer to have things tangible in my house. Not on some server where it may or may not be there when I next need it.
[12:28] <nhaines> Okay, it's bedtime for me.  Take care, everyone.  :)
[12:28] <viper12> join /
[12:28] <pc14> brong long
[12:28] <pc14> are you
[12:28] <BazziR> petrik: I don't use dodgy repositories. Just the ubuntu+kubuntu ones plus wine.
[12:28] <pc14> i you an friend for name angela are you?
[12:29] <pc14> algien de espaa putos ingleses
[12:29] <apokryphos> !es
[12:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:29] <pc14> spain
[12:31] <Auckland_Pig> what is the proper cron format to run script.sh on the first sunday of april at 9:30 am
[12:33] <petrik> How do get replies from the paste bin? Do you go to the paste bin or does it send you email?
[12:34] <petrik> Hey another one from New Zealand
[12:36] <Auckland_Pig> petrik: you just post the link to the paste bin and people visit it.... not sure if any paste bin actually emails it...
[12:36] <KillerKiwi2006> ?
[12:38] <petrik> Auckland_Pig, so how do you get a responce to your query if it is looked at and you're not on irc at the time?
[12:39] <Auckland_Pig> you must be in IRC petrik
[12:39] <Auckland_Pig> or leave your email in there and ask them to email you... but not a suggested method
[12:40] <ShadoX> TaTaYoYo
[12:41] <ShadoX> Alors les mecs la forme ? Une ptite birre ca ferais du bien ici ^_^
[12:41] <Corey> Hey guys, i just downloaded crossover office and it was a .rar file and in the .rar file are heaps of .zip files is there a special way of auto-installing all of those files ?
[12:42] <Corey> Hey guys, i just downloaded crossover office and it was a .rar file and in the .rar file are heaps of .zip files is there a special way of auto-installing all of those files ?
[12:43] <Corey> ??
[12:44] <KillerKiwi2006> no idea i use stright wine
[12:44] <Corey> yeah
[12:44] <Corey> Im trying to get dreamweaver 8 workig
[12:44] <Corey> but it says please re-install dreamweaver
[12:44] <petrik> Ok another dumb noob question. How can you find out what kernel you have?
[12:44] <Corey> linux :P
[12:44] <POVaddct> petrik: cat /proc/version
[12:44] <Corey> how can i get dreamweaver 8 working ?
[12:45] <KillerKiwi2006> is that MX ?
[12:45] <Corey> its 8
[12:45] <Corey> and there is peole that have it working
[12:45] <BazziR> Corey: why do you want to get it working :/ there are so many good alternatives
[12:46] <KillerKiwi2006> did you install it in wine or is it on another partition already?
[12:46] <ubuntu> s.a
[12:46] <ubuntu> hi
[12:46] <Corey> BazziR: yes unless there is a program that is almost replica of dreamod.weaver with css functtionality its no go
[12:46] <Corey> NVU was horrible.
[12:46] <er> sd
[12:46] <BazziR> write by hand ;)
[12:46] <er> selam
[12:47] <Corey> BazziR: I don't want to im lazy and 8 has awseome css funtionality
[12:47] <BazziR> it was improved, yes, but I still don't consider it awesome
[12:47] <Subhuman> Corey, the closest free alt. to DW is NVU
[12:47] <petrik> there are stand alone css editors around
[12:48] <BazziR> OK so if you really want it then go for it.
[12:48] <Subhuman> if you dont like nvu well learn to use something else.
[12:48] <Corey> i want to use dreamweaver
[12:48] <BazziR> did you try wine before trying crossover office?
[12:48] <Corey> there is people using 8 via wine !
[12:48] <KillerKiwi2006> Corey : did you run the installer under wine?
[12:48] <BazziR> I suggest installing wine 0.9.13 and trying with that, that version works very well here
[12:49] <Corey> no it wouldnt let me, i had to go to my windows machine
[12:49] <Corey> and move the files over
[12:49] <petrik> Years ago I was playing with redhat and used wine for lightwave - was slow but it worked
[12:49] <Corey> Im using wine for photoshop 7 now perfectly and itrs good cause i only 7 over cs and cs2
[12:49] <KillerKiwi2006> wine has its own registry, you need to run the installer to setup it up propaly
[12:49] <Corey> I did a lot of stuff like move common files and everything
[12:50] <Corey> i was following a tutorial
[12:50] <Corey> but it says when i start up dreamweaver "please re-install software"
[12:50] <MiniJames> has anyone managed to run cs2?
[12:50] <Diuegannnn> hi, is this the ubuntu channel??
[12:50] <Corey> yes it is
[12:50] <jay-ki1> yep
[12:50] <Diuegannnn> hi then :)
[12:50] <jay-ki1> he ya .. wats up
[12:50] <Diuegannnn> I am having a problem
[12:51] <petrik> I think wine was new at the time. Will be going down that path again soon to get lightwave working. The only M$ relient program I really need to run. Will be looking for an alternative to dreamweaver myself
[12:51] <jay-ki1> shoot up
[12:51] <Diuegannnn> its my first time with ubuntu
[12:51] <Mortal`> Is there a command to set the contents of the clipboard?
[12:51] <Diuegannnn> VERY nice program hehe
[12:51] <Diuegannnn> im on a live cd
[12:51] <Corey> Diuegannn this my third day of installed version its great :)
[12:51] <Corey> just trying to get the things i really need of windows like the adobe programs
[12:51] <Diuegannnn> aye, great
[12:51] <Corey> have the main one gonig
[12:51] <Diuegannnn> the thing is, I have XP installed in this comp
[12:52] <Corey> just need dreamweaver 8 and flash 8
[12:52] <Diuegannnn> and I dont know where to see my hard drives
[12:52] <Corey> i wiped and put ubuntu on :)
[12:52] <GnarusLeo> Doesnt "amsn" have the newer msn: "away message" ?
[12:52] <Corey> amsn is shit
[12:52] <Subhuman> Corey, if you need DW and Flash 8, why didnt you keep xp?
[12:52] <GnarusLeo> Corey, what do you use?
[12:52] <jay-ki1> Diuegannn:  what drives do you wanna see
[12:52] <Corey> subhuman: cause i like ubuntu
[12:52] <jay-ki1> Diuegannn: and from where
[12:52] <petrik> Must make Newtek create a linux version so I can go complete cold turkey on M$
[12:52] <BazziR> Corey: considered using vmware?
[12:52] <Diuegannnn> can someone tell me how can I access my hard drives?
[12:52] <Corey> vmware ? :O ?
[12:52] <Subhuman> !vmware
[12:52] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[12:53] <BazziR> yeah, virtualizing windows for dw8/flash8
[12:53] <GnarusLeo> What do you people use as replacement for msn in ubuntu?
[12:53] <Mortal`> Diuegannnn, Places (top of screen) > Computer
[12:53] <Corey> also guys i got flash player 8.5 working !
[12:53] <Subhuman> GnarusLeo, I use Mercury MEssenger
[12:53] <Mortal`> Diuegannnn, "Filesystem" is your Ubuntu drive
[12:53] <Subhuman> GnarusLeo, www.mercury.to
[12:53] <KillerKiwi2006> GnarusLeo: gaim 2
[12:53] <GnarusLeo> ok ..
[12:53] <petrik> Diuegannnn, system>administration>disks
[12:53] <Subhuman> it's java :( but itz pretty good
[12:53] <Mortal`> There's a Gaim 2?
[12:53] <Mortal`> :o
[12:53] <Subhuman> all the features of msn with some cool scripting too
[12:54] <Corey> so mecury is good eh ?
[12:54] <KillerKiwi2006> Mortal`:  yeah its nice
[12:54] <Mortal`> KillerKiwi2006, can I get it with apt?
[12:54] <KillerKiwi2006> its still beta3 though it wont make dapper
[12:54] <Corey> gaim 1 was shit !
[12:54] <Subhuman> I like it  just for the scripting and it supports webcam :D
[12:54] <Diuegannnn> but in filesystem I see a lot of linux drives, but how can I access my hard disk drives, the ones I use with windows, with all my archives
[12:55] <GnarusLeo> mercury looks sweet
[12:55] <KillerKiwi2006> Mortal`: deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb ./ should work actually
[12:55] <Mortal`> Diuegannnn, isn't there some drives along the names hda1, hda2, hdd2?
[12:55] <Corey> KillerKiwi2006: is that mecury //
[12:56] <Mortal`> KillerKiwi2006, what do you mean by deb? I get command not found
[12:56] <Ng> Corey: please mind your language and really this isn't the place to spout such opinions ;)
[12:56] <Corey> oh sorry
[12:56] <KillerKiwi2006> Mortal`: Thats a repo, or you can just download the debs from the URL
[12:56] <Corey> alright to install a deb package you just type...
[12:56] <petrik> Mortal`, I've just installed aMSN. Have not tested it fully yet but on the surface of it I can not see where to use it with audio
[12:56] <Corey> dpkg -kxf file.deb
[12:56] <marlijs> Diuegannn, go to system => help => there is very good documentation
[12:56] <Mortal|AFK> bbl
[12:57] <KillerKiwi2006> Corey: Mecury who?
[12:57] <Ng> -xkf?
[12:57] <Ng> -i surely?
[12:57] <Corey> mecury messenger
[12:58] <KillerKiwi2006> In dapper dont you just double click the deb :)
[12:58] <KillerKiwi2006> gdebi goodnes
[12:58] <Corey> really
[12:58] <Corey> dapper sounds neat
[12:59] <Corey> how do you install .deb ?
[12:59] <Ng> sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[12:59] <Corey> thanks mate
[12:59] <Diuegannnn> I can see my hard disk drives, hda, hdb and hdd, but if I go to filesystem /dev and try to double-click them, it says they cannot be displayed!
[12:59] <javiolo> just updated to dapper but now I cannot play mp3s
[01:00] <Diuegannnn> Can't I move archives, copy and delete, if they are formated in ntfs?
[01:00] <Corey> how do i use gaim2 ?
[01:00] <Ng> Diuegannnn: it's not safe to write to ntfs in linux at the moment, so they can only be mounted read-only
[01:00] <Corey> i just installed
[01:00] <Ng> !tell Diuegannnn about ntfs
[01:01] <marlijs> Diuegann, in this documentation you can find your answer howto access ntfs partitions
[01:01] <javiolo> how can I install flash plugin in dapper ?
[01:01] <marlijs> javiolo, you are in a wrong chat, read heading
[01:01] <leafw> anyone running into Gdk problems?
[01:02] <leafw> Inkscape shows the window in black
[01:02] <leafw>  and the menus as well
[01:02] <javiolo> marlijs I cannot read it, this chann is not for dapper ?
[01:02] <leafw> something is really wrong with the Gdk for kubuntu-ppc at least.
[01:02] <leafw> !ubotu dapper
[01:02] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until than
[01:02] <marlijs> javiolo, /join #ubuntu+1 will lead you to right one
[01:03] <javiolo> ok, thanks didnt knew that
[01:03] <jain> Has anybody tried to use infrared with the latest dapper kernel 2.6.15.23?
[01:03] <Corey> what is the best mesenger ?
[01:03] <BazziR> kopete ;)
[01:04] <jain> everytime I try to use irattach there is a kernel panic
[01:04] <Corey> yeah
[01:04] <Corey> is dapper worth installing ?
[01:04] <jain> things were working fine with 15.22 kernel
[01:04] <jain> Is it a problem with the kernel or my setup?
[01:05] <Snake007uk> hey guys, has anyone managed to get Toshiba tecra m3 working with dapper
[01:06] <Snake007uk> i am having 2 issues. 1) Sky2 driver
[01:06] <Snake007uk> 2) Nvidia driver sometimes fails ?
[01:09] <Ng> Corey: it's released a week today or there's a release candidate out later today. If you can wait a week then do, or if you want to test the RC, do, but be aware that there will still be some bugs
[01:09] <Corey> I downloaded the live cd
[01:09] <Corey> but it wouldnt work
[01:10] <Corey> maybe cause my cd was slightly scratched.
[01:10] <petrik> Can anyone make sense of what I just posted in the paste bin?
[01:11] <avalost> petrik: url?
[01:11] <Corey> what is the best programming editor besides scite ?
[01:11] <Subhuman> Corey, if your leet VIm is the way :P
[01:11] <Corey> VIm
[01:11] <Corey> ok
[01:11] <Corey> Im a php programmer
[01:11] <avalost> vim is complicated if you have never used it
[01:12] <Corey> lol
[01:12] <Subhuman> Corey, I suggest you check outr "vimtutor" first. serious.
[01:12] <avalost> Corey: use qanta, bluefish or screem
[01:12] <Corey> i liked notepad ++
[01:12] <gambi> Corey, emacs is great
[01:12] <petrik> Ooops does not appear to have save itself
[01:13] <arcade> Corey: Kate is very good.
[01:13] <arcade> Corey: You'll like Kate.
[01:13] <avalost> or gedit if you use gnome
[01:13] <arcade> Corey: Included with the KDE project, and is in kubuntu.
[01:13] <Subhuman> Corey, yes Kate is very similar to notepad ++
[01:13] <Subhuman> or u can still use kate in gnome
[01:14] <avalost> not if you don't have kde base
[01:14] <Corey> ok kate
[01:14] <Corey> is it
[01:14] <Corey> sudo get-apt install kate ?
[01:14] <Mortal|AFK> Where's the Synaptic repos list kept?
[01:14] <arcade> Corey: I guess so.
[01:14] <Mortal|AFK> Wait nvm
[01:14] <Corey> cause it didnt work :(
[01:14] <avalost> i think kate is in bundle
[01:14] <avalost> a*
[01:15] <Corey> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[01:15] <arcade> Corey: If not, then just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :)  (one thing about that though, you'll get a HUGE load of KDE packages, and can change your desktop too KDE too, then.
[01:15] <avalost> with other stuff
[01:15] <avalost> Corey: using gnome?
[01:15] <Corey> yes i am
[01:15] <avalost> try gedit
[01:15] <Subhuman>   kate kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a libarts1c2a libavahi-qt3-1  libopenexr2c2a menu-xdg
[01:15] <Subhuman> thats all i need to install it.
[01:15] <MiniJames> err guys
[01:15] <Subhuman> After unpacking 63.1MB of additional disk space will be used.
[01:15] <MiniJames> bluefish
[01:16] <eXistenZ> Corey, move to kubuntu then.
[01:16] <MiniJames> is good for php
[01:16] <Corey> everything im trying to install comes up with the same error
[01:16] <arcade> MiniJames: .. is that the HTML editor?
[01:16] <MiniJames> corey dont do it!
[01:16] <Corey> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[01:16] <MiniJames> yes
[01:16] <avalost> screw kubuntu!
[01:16] <spikeb> Corey: sudo apt-get -f install
[01:16] <MiniJames> dont instal KDE!
[01:16] <Corey> why ?
[01:16] <MiniJames> the dark side ;)
[01:16] <eXistenZ> ion3 > *
[01:16] <avalost> kde = ick :p
[01:16] <Subhuman> yeah Corey get bluefish
[01:16] <arcade> Corey: Because some people find it too easy to use ;)
[01:16] <MiniJames> its good
[01:16] <eXistenZ> ion3 > *
[01:16] <Subhuman> KDE is gank
[01:16] <eXistenZ> ion3 > *
[01:16] <MiniJames> its evil -- every time someone installs KDE a baby dolphin dies
[01:16] <Corey> wait which is a good one lol ?
[01:16] <petrik> Ok here is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14622
[01:16] <MiniJames> please, think about the dolphins
[01:17] <Corey> why is KDE so bad ?
[01:17] <Subhuman> just sucks
[01:17] <MiniJames> im joking :P
[01:17] <Subhuman> trust us :D
[01:17] <Subhuman> :P
[01:17] <arcade> Subhuman: Except, of course, that KDE is easier to use, way more powerfull, got a faster development cycle, and so forth ..
[01:17] <MiniJames> i just prefer gnome
[01:17] <arcade> Corey: It's not bad. :)
[01:17] <Corey> does all gnome apps work ?
[01:17] <arcade> Corey: The *nix camp is just divided on what they like.
[01:17] <Subhuman> arcade, but it looks like crap, horrible config panel, more buttons/harder to use.... and so forth :P
[01:17] <arcade> Corey: Yes.
[01:17] <MiniJames> james@jameslaptop:~$ sudo apt-get install bluefish
[01:17] <Corey> whats blufish ?
[01:17] <eXistenZ> avalost, running flubxbox with ubuntu?
[01:17] <Subhuman> a php editors
[01:17] <MiniJames> php / html editor
[01:18] <MiniJames> perfect for your needs
[01:18] <MiniJames> ^^
[01:18] <avalost> eXistenZ: yes
[01:18] <Ng> Subhuman: #ubuntu-offtopic for opinions and KDE bashing please ;)
[01:18] <arcade> Subhuman: Got a more intuitive interface, great config panels, more buttons and functionality, easier to contribute to (especially as a translator).
[01:18] <eXistenZ> avalost, did you try ion3
[01:18] <e-fonz> Anyone know how to setup a server on ubuntu linux?
[01:18] <MiniJames> lol
[01:18] <Corey> grrrrrrrrrrr
[01:18] <avalost> eXistenZ: nop
[01:18] <Corey> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[01:18] <Corey> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:18] <Corey>   gaim: Depends: gaim-data (= 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu3) but 1:1.9.99.is.2.0.0+beta3-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[01:18] <Corey> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[01:18] <MiniJames> google it
[01:18] <eXistenZ> avalost, http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/
[01:18] <avalost> eXistenZ: thanks, looking
[01:18] <Subhuman> arcade, I used KDE for the first few months of my linux life, but once moving to gnome i couldnt go back.
[01:18] <MiniJames> sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:19] <MiniJames> then do bluefish install
[01:19] <Corey> i think i have a broken package..
[01:19] <Corey> I DO lol
[01:19] <Subhuman> Corey, do "sudo apt-get install gaim-data"
[01:19] <arcade> Subhuman: I first used twm, then fvwm2, then afterstep - then went on to using KDE 1.x ;)
[01:19] <arcade> Subhuman: Been using KDE ever since.
[01:19] <MiniJames> ive used both
[01:19] <MiniJames> i couldnt stand kde
[01:19] <Subhuman> arcade, well if you've never tried gnome dont knock it :D
[01:19] <arcade> Subhuman: I've also had my run ins with gnome, but I really didn't like the experience.
[01:20] <Corey> its giving me the same -f error !!!!
[01:20] <Subhuman> Corey, "sudo apt-get remove gaim && sudo apt-get install gaim gaim-data"
[01:20] <avalost> I used ximian gnome on mandrake 6.x switched to blackbox then to fluxbox and basically stuck with flux ever since
[01:20] <avalost> except short stints with new vers of kde/gnome/e17 etc
[01:21] <yassine> Hello
[01:21] <e-fonz> 05 anyone know how to setup a php/mysql webserver on ubuntu linux? or a link for the manual?
[01:21] <Ng> !tell e-fonz about lamp
[01:21] <Corey> thanks Subhuman
[01:21] <Subhuman> NP :P
[01:21] <petrik> avalost, URL is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14622
[01:21] <Corey> wait
[01:21] <Corey> it said..broken packages
[01:22] <yassine> how to install the latest Blender
[01:22] <Subhuman> yeah, so i told you to remove the broken one, and reinstall it with the package it needs.
[01:22] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Hello!
[01:22] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Anyone in here?
[01:22] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Ah hello.
[01:22] <Subhuman> yes LO
[01:22] <Subhuman> :P*
[01:22] <Corey> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:22] <Corey>   gaim: Depends: gaim-data (= 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu3) but 1:1.9.99.is.2.0.0+beta3-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[01:22] <Corey> E: Broken packages
[01:23] <Subhuman> Corey, have you installed a version of gaim NOT from the repositories?
[01:23] <avalost> ok
[01:23] <Corey> yes..
[01:23] <Corey> just before
[01:23] <Corey> a beta version 2
[01:23] <Subhuman> well thats your problem
[01:23] <yassine> Help please, how to install the latest Blender
[01:23] <Corey> how do i get rid of ?
[01:23] <Subhuman> "sudo apt-get remove gaim gaim-data"
[01:24] <Subhuman> should do it.
[01:24] <Corey> i dont like gaim anyway ^_^
[01:24] <Corey> now where we where
[01:24] <Corey> so should install KDE ?
[01:25] <Subhuman> no
[01:25] <petrik> yassine, Do you have a website showing work you have done with blender? Where did you get the latest version from? Is it a package or source?
[01:25] <Corey> and can i still use...gnome .
[01:25] <Subhuman> "sudo apt-get install bluefish"
[01:25] <Subhuman> Corey, try bluefish instead
[01:25] <Corey> I just installed bluefish
[01:25] <Corey> ..hmm
[01:25] <Ng> yassine: the very latest version (2.41) is in dapper which is released a week today, or you could download it from their site (blender.org). The version in breezy is still fairly recent though (2.37a)
[01:25] <avalost> Corey: bluefish, quanta, screem are all good web development apps
[01:26] <Corey> is there any that are like notepad ++ ?
[01:27] <yassine> petrik, i download it from http://www.blender.org/cms/Blender.31.0.html
[01:27] <avalost> Corey: gedit is like notepad
[01:27] <Corey> also..has anyone ever got maya working on linux ?
[01:27] <MyNameIsNotBob> whats the default username and password for dapper?
[01:27] <avalost> type: gedit &
[01:27] <Subhuman> MyNameIsNotBob, there not.
[01:27] <avalost> in a terminal^
[01:27] <Subhuman> you have to set it during install
[01:27] <MyNameIsNotBob> Subhuman: what if it didn't?
[01:27] <Corey> no im talking notepad ++
[01:28] <yassine> Ng, what is dapper?
[01:28] <Ng> yassine: the next version of ubuntu
[01:28] <Subhuman> MyNameIsNotBob, well you mustve entered blank blank
[01:28] <Subhuman> I cant see how you couldnt though?
[01:28] <MyNameIsNotBob> Subhuman: doesn't work, it never prompted me
[01:28] <Corey> hey kde looks neet
[01:28] <GnarusLeo> How do I install new "views" or "themes" on mercury-messenger?
[01:29] <yassine> Ng, is it downloadable
[01:29] <petrik> Corey, sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that you can run KDE programs under gnome as long as you had the correct libraries
[01:29] <Subhuman> GnarusLeo, new views, you just script in html
[01:29] <Subhuman> petrik, that is correct
[01:29] <Corey> petrik: well im new to linux so im not sure ^_^
[01:29] <GnarusLeo> I have a .mm thiny .. where do I put that Subhuman?
[01:29] <Subhuman> the qt libraries
[01:29] <Ng> yassine: yes and there should be a release candidate out today, but be aware that it's not officially released for another week, so there may well still be bugs
[01:29] <Subhuman> I'm not sure sorry
[01:30] <GnarusLeo> I have a zip file as well
[01:30] <GnarusLeo> Subhuman,
[01:30] <GnarusLeo> dont know where to put it?
[01:30] <Subhuman> nope
[01:30] <Corey> I should really amp up the linux communites look
[01:30] <Subhuman> never installed a theme, happy with the default :D
[01:30] <yassine> Ng, but is there a way to just install it on ubuntu
[01:31] <Corey> HELP
[01:31] <petrik> yassine, How is Blender? I used lightwave under windows and not sure if I should set it up under WINE or look for an alternative
[01:31] <Corey> im typing in here right
[01:31] <Ng> yassine: you can just do "sudo apt-get install blender" in a terminal and you'll get 2.37
[01:31] <Corey> and it keeps jumping back spaces
[01:31] <Corey> and its annoying me!
[01:32] <yassine> I did it, but I want to install the 2.41
[01:32] <petrik> Have not tried installing anything that runs on KDE yet but will have to soon just for the experience. Anyone got any advise? How do you know what libraries you need?
[01:32] <Ng> yassine: then you either have to download it from blender.org or upgrade to dapper
[01:32] <saquib> >> What's the BEST Audio Player for Linux......??
[01:33] <Corey> xmms
[01:33] <Ng> saquib: that's a matter of personal choice
[01:33] <FliesLikeABrick> saquib that is a matter of opinion, but I prefer xmms
[01:33] <Ng> saquib: play with a few of them and see which you like :)
[01:33] <Corey> yeah xxms is neat
[01:33] <Corey> its fast to :)
[01:33] <Corey> im using amarok now thoe
[01:33] <yassine> Ng, the fact is that I do not know how to install downloaded stuff :)
[01:33] <Ng> yassine: are you sure you can't wait a week and upgrade to dapper when it's released?
[01:34] <apokryphos> Corey: xmms sucks
[01:34] <petrik> yassine, What is the file you downloaded?
[01:34] <Corey> ..
[01:34] <Corey> amarok is slow
[01:34] <Ng> apokryphos: we really don't need an audio player war in here ;p
[01:34] <Corey> it takes ages to switch songs
[01:34] <Corey> like 1 second
[01:34] <yassine> Ng, sure, but I also would like to learn to install stuff
[01:34] <saquib> >>> but how can i make xmms Sound better?
[01:34] <Corey> xxms is immdeite
[01:34] <achandra> hello.im a little new to the ubuntu thing...just got ubuntu working with Drapper Drake...is that the latest most stable version?
[01:34] <apokryphos> Corey: there are other far better lightweight alternatives
[01:34] <Ng> yassine: then download it from blender.org and read the install instructions :)
[01:35] <ccc_> achandra: it's not stable yet. it will be released on june 1st.
[01:35] <petrik> What about a video player war? What can play quicktime 7 files?
[01:35] <yassine> petrik, I donwnloaded both
[01:35] <Ng> achandra: no, dapper is a pre-release. breezy is the current stable release. dapper will be the stable release in one week
[01:35] <ccc_> achandra: breezy badger is stable.
[01:35] <achandra> ccc_: so the version I have 6.0.6 is workable but not official release..right?
[01:35] <saquib> Corey: any special Output plugin....?
[01:35] <Corey> saquib: nope lol
[01:36] <achandra> ccc_: it works well on my amd64 laptop...:)
[01:36] <Ng> petrik: mplayer, xine or totem if you install win32codecs, I believe
[01:36] <R_a_f_a_E_L> Why the hell the boot shows up these three options for Ubuntu ''Ubuntu, Kernel 2.6.12-9-386", ''Ubuntu, Kernel 2.6.12-10-386" e "Ubuntu, memtest86+"??
[01:36] <ccc_> achandra: well yea. :)
[01:36] <Corey> um..is there any webcam drivers for linux ?
[01:36] <R_a_f_a_E_L> Couldn't be just one?
[01:36] <achandra> ccc_: no bs with X configs or bcm4318..it just works..:)
[01:36] <Ng> R_a_f_a_E_L: you have two kernels installed and the memtest one is for testing memory
[01:36] <yassine> petrik, I donwnloaded both, dynamic and static with python 2.4
[01:36] <saquib>  Corey: the ALSA plug in for XMMS sometimes have this weird sound in the music
[01:36] <Ng> R_a_f_a_E_L: you can remove the 2.6.12-9 kernel packages and that boot option will disappear
[01:37] <achandra> ccc_: i guess ill continue to use it until final release...thanks.
[01:37] <R_a_f_a_E_L> How can I remove it?
[01:37] <ccc_> achandra: great. just update it on june 1st and you'll have the "proper" version.
[01:37] <R_a_f_a_E_L> Bg
[01:37] <R_a_f_a_E_L> Ng
[01:37] <Ng> R_a_f_a_E_L: load up synaptic and search for linux-image, you'll see the installed ones
[01:37] <Ng> remove the old one
[01:38] <achandra> ccc_: thanks for taking the time to answer...appreciate it.:)
[01:38] <achandra> ccc-: it made my laptop come alive..rather than that BS winbloze media crap..
[01:38] <ramvi> What is the "best" video editing software for ubuntu? Something like Premiere? I can't find Cinelerra, jahshaka nor LiVES in the respories...
[01:40] <ccc_> achandra: good choice :)
[01:40] <ramvi> If I understand it correctly, Kino is a software for getting the dv film from the cam to the computer. so that wouldn't do me any good
[01:40] <Ng> ramvi: dapper has pitivi, which is supposd to be quite good, but is still very new. if you want cinelerra or so you'll have to install it by hand
[01:41] <petrik> yassine, http://download.blender.org/documentation/html/chapter_installation.html
[01:42] <ramvi> Ng, compile it myself and stuff. Thanks :) But how come it's not available from synaptic?
[01:42] <Ng> ramvi: either for licencing reasons or because nobody has packaged it up yet
[01:42] <R_a_f_a_E_L> Ng, remove just linux-image-2.6.12-9-386"
[01:42] <Ng> R_a_f_a_E_L: yep
[01:42] <ramvi> Right, thanks =)
[01:43] <petrik> avalost, Did you have a look at the pastebin? Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[01:43] <R_a_f_a_E_L> Ng, complete remotion?
[01:43] <yassine> petrik, I am reading it :)
[01:44] <Ng> R_a_f_a_E_L: yeah
[01:45] <petrik> yassine, I'm new to all this myself (well if you don't count my tinkering with linux on Mandrake 10 and Redhat 9 some years ago) so still learning the install processes myself
[01:46] <R_a_f_a_E_L> Ng, thanks very much...
[01:47] <yassine> petrik, yes it still remains a difficult task to make a clean install, which is done with one double-click under windows!!
[01:47] <achandra> My experience with Ubuntu so far compared to suse  on amd 64 gateway laptop - my sound works out of the box!My touchpad reponds perfectly!wireless no problem! - AWESSSSOOOME!
[01:47] <M_A_K> I just updated my laptop and have  2.6.14-ck1.  My wireless networkin (which worked out of the box with the previous version) is now not working.  I am a linux newbie and do not know how to fix this.  Can someone help?
[01:48] <Ng> 2.6.14?!
[01:48] <Ng> that's not an ubuntu kernel, is it?
[01:48] <M_A_K> Yes
[01:49] <Ng> from where? breezy is 2.6.12 and dapper is 2.6.15
[01:49] <M_A_K> It installed when I did an update to my laptop.
[01:49] <chapium> Hmm, I just ran updates on the US Repositories without any troubles...
[01:49] <M_A_K> I used the synaptic pkg mgr and it was one of the items.
[01:49] <spikeb> chapium: yeah the topic is old
[01:49] <M_A_K> I run the updater about once every 2 weeks.
[01:49] <Ng> M_A_K: could you find the package in synaptic and get its full package name?
[01:50] <stjepan> !nvu
[01:50] <ubotu> I guess nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[01:50] <M_A_K> I will try.
[01:50] <chapium> For some reason it updated the update manager.. in preparation for dapper?
[01:50] <McScruff> is there a way to use terminal server client and make it take up a full workspace or atleast scale it like the kde one does
[01:50] <stjepan> do you know any "what you see is what you get" HTML editors for Linux? Something like MS Front Page or Dreameweaver, with support for frames?
[01:51] <M_A_K> Sorry, I guess I used the Update Manager, not synaptic.
[01:51] <M_A_K> stjepan : try nvu or bluefish
[01:51] <Larsson-Sweden> Why cant i play videos in fbxine? All i get is video port failed.
[01:52] <stjepan> M_A_K, Nvu has no support for frames
[01:52] <stjepan> and bluefish is not WYSIWYG
[01:52] <M_A_K> I was told it was, don't use wysiwyg myself, I write code...
[01:53] <Ng> M_A_K: it's just that, as far as I can tell, ubuntu has never released a 2.6.14 kernel, so you have picked that up from somewhere else and I would blame that for your wireless issues until its ruled out
[01:53] <stjepan> M_A_K, why you write code? It takes so much time... :(
[01:53] <e-fonz> I got Lamp running now, but can't copy files to the www folder anyone got an idea?
[01:53] <petrik> Anyone had any experience with a webcam freezing their machine?
[01:54] <M_A_K> Much better control.  I dont like other programs "inserting" junk i don't want.  besides, its fun ;-)
[01:54] <M_A_K> Ng : thanks.  I wonder why update manager installed it then?
[01:55] <Ng> M_A_K: if I had to guess I'd say that you've configured some third party package repositories
[01:55] <petrik> M_A_K, I tossed frontpage for that reason but found dreamweaver not as intrusive. It still did it to some degree
[01:55] <M_A_K> I will be more careful when running update manager from now on.
[01:56] <webwolf_27> can somebody help me with a dhcp-server problem?? My client can connect to the host but not to the internet
[01:56] <Ng> M_A_K: if I were you I'd load up synaptic, search for linux-image and make sure I have the most recent official ubuntu kernel installed, then reboot into that
[01:56] <M_A_K> petrik : I like dreamweaver the best of any for that reason.
[01:56] <e-fonz> is there a good linux alternative for dreamweaver?
[01:57] <satlan32> how do i call an IVR directly?
[01:57] <M_A_K> Ng : I still have the   2.6.12-10 installed and am booted into that currently.
[01:57] <webwolf_27> e-fonz: have a good look at bluefish
[01:57] <M_A_K> Petrik : have you ever tried dreamweaver with wine?
[01:57] <e-fonz> I got Bluefish, but i miss autofill in that!
[01:58] <rod> hi
[01:58] <webwolf_27> e-fonz: quanta
[01:58] <rod> i searched the forum and all
[01:58] <e-fonz> quanta?
[01:58] <rod> but how to install ms core fonts, it doesnt show up in my apt-cache search, although i got all the reps unmarked
[01:59] <petrik> M_A_K, Not yet. Played with linux some time ago. Now have tossed M$ out the window but have that and a 3D program that rely on M$ that I may still install that way. Other than that I'm looking for replacements for evrything else
[01:59] <webwolf_27> e-fonz: it's a kde package
[01:59] <Subhuman> rod "sudo apt-get install msttfcorefonts"
[01:59] <Ng> rod: do yo uhave multiverse enabled?
[01:59] <e-fonz> OK
[02:00] <Subhuman> rod, sorry msttcorefonts
[02:00] <e-fonz> damn i havent used irc in a long time, how do you get the colors again?
[02:00] <rod>  deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted univ$   guess so
[02:00] <rod> oh wait
[02:00] <rod> bp
[02:01] <M_A_K> webwolf_27 : does quanta have all of the sql & php stuff like dreamweaver?
[02:01] <rod> thx Subhuman and Ng
[02:02] <rod> had multi enabled, but only on backports ? never had that before but oh well, nicely installing now ^^
[02:02] <webwolf_27> when I start my dhcp client I get an error "temporary failure in name resolution" what could be the problem
[02:02] <tuxtheslacker> hello.
[02:03] <tuxtheslacker> how do I add a module to be loaded at start up?
[02:03] <Diegan> isn't there a way to move or delete files between ntfs drives?
[02:04] <tuxtheslacker> this thing seems to think that /etc/rc.d/init.d/vpn_client is where /etc/init.d/vpn_client is located.
[02:05] <e-fonz> what's the command to create a new folder in var/www?
[02:05] <webwolf_27> e-fonz: mkdir var/www/<dirname>
[02:05] <tuxtheslacker> e-fonz, mkdir /var/www/<folder_name>
[02:05] <e-fonz> LOL, thnx
[02:05] <forg> Why would a  usb HD stop appearing at /dev/sda1 I formatted it ext3 on another machine.? Mounted it on my xubuntu box, rebooted and now it doesn't appear and I don't have another machine to test it on
[02:06] <tuxtheslacker> but can someone tell me where the startup scripts are located?
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> tuxtheslacker,  depends on which ones you are refering to
[02:06] <tuxtheslacker> oh, forg, are you able to format in extt3? and how?
[02:06] <tuxtheslacker> tuxtheslacker, I need to add a module to startup.
[02:06] <webwolf_27> tuxtheslacker: /etc/init.d
[02:06] <tuxtheslacker> for some reason, it's pointing to /etc/rc.d/init.d, and it's located in /etc/init.d
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> tuxtheslacker,  the file /etc/modules - is a list of modules to be auto-loaded
[02:07] <forg> tuxtheslac: I used qtparted on another box
[02:07] <forg> tuxtheslac: sorry ignore
[02:07] <tuxtheslacker> forg, I just had a one gig stick in a windows machine, and it stopped working on my linux machines, would that be why?
[02:08] <yccheok_> Any FreeImage library user here?
[02:08] <forg> tux: it went from fc4 -> xubuntu -> reboot -> fubur
[02:08] <forg> fubar
[02:09] <Diegan> isn't there a way to access and work with NTFS drives? Moving and deleting files?
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker> forg: it went slackware -> windows -> fubar
[02:09] <e-fonz> Ehm how do i change dirs?
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker> now I'm trying on ubuntu.
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker> e-fonz: cd /path/to/dir
[02:09] <OlliK> Diegan: It doesn't work perfectly yet in Linux
[02:09] <e-fonz> tnx again
[02:09] <OlliK> Diegan: It's better to create a FAT32 partition for sharing files between NTFS / Linux
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker> Diegan, if I'm not mistaken, you use samba to do that :-)
[02:09] <philipp__> Hi, I'm searching for a Howto to enable Routing between two _private_ subnets. I don't want to masquerade
[02:10] <Naxo> hello
[02:10] <Naxo> good morning
[02:10] <philipp__> hi naxo
[02:10] <tuxtheslacker> Nameeater, mornin'.
[02:10] <Diegan> the thing is, my XP has stopped working due to malware
[02:10] <Naxo> iw ould like to know why Totem is part of ubuntu
[02:10] <Diegan> and I need to access my files in the main hard drive, and move them to my other hard drives
[02:10] <Diegan> so I can format and re-install windows
[02:11] <OlliK> Diegan: Reading from NTFS works perfectly
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker> Diegan, can I get  a quick howto on formatting to ext3?
[02:11] <philipp__> Does anyone knows how to enable routing between to subnets without masquerading?
[02:11] <philipp__> two ;-)
[02:11] <Diegan> Ollik, I need to read, delete and move between ntfs drives
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker> er I mean forg*
[02:11] <arcade> philipp__: What are the subnets?
[02:11] <arcade> philipp__: If they use different IP's, there's no problem in enabling routing.
[02:11] <philipp__> 10.0.0.0/8 and 192.168.36.0/24
[02:11] <Naxo> philipp are u a ubuntu-dev?
[02:11] <philipp__> no
[02:12] <arcade> philipp__: do one box have both networks connected, or are there routers in between?
[02:12] <OlliK> Diegan: Make a Windows boot disk and do it in dos?
[02:12] <philipp__> arcade: One box have both networks connected (wlan and eth)
[02:12] <Naxo> well i just dont to understend abaut Totem
[02:12] <petrik> What happens if you write to a NTFS drive?
[02:12] <tuxtheslacker> OlliK, what problem is thta your fix for?
[02:12] <arcade> philipp__: just enable ip_forwarding
[02:12] <tuxtheslacker> OlliK, that's not a solution....
[02:13] <tuxtheslacker> Diegan, you can mount the drives, and do it that way.
[02:13] <tuxtheslacker> it's not a perfect fix, but samba can do that.
[02:13] <tuxtheslacker> Diegan, ^^
[02:13] <Diegan> I can mount them, but then work with them?
[02:13] <philipp__> arcade: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward doesn't work
[02:13] <tuxtheslacker> Diegan, also, you MAY be able to just mount the drives and deal with it that way (I don't know about with reading them)
[02:13] <Diegan> Ollik, I have tons of files and folders, I need a graphic interface
[02:14] <OlliK> Diegan: ah.. ic
[02:14] <petrik> Diegan, I've managed to mount mine and read from it. Have not tried writing to it
[02:14] <OlliK> petrik: writing won't work
[02:14] <rochfordo> philipp_, what does your routing table say?
[02:14] <Diegan> is there a "live" version of a windows interface?
[02:14] <tuxtheslacker> OlliK, if you mount the disk, that might work. just mount it and see how that works. Also, check out samba that may be what you need :-)
[02:14] <Nameeater> tuxtheslacker: morning o.O
[02:14] <OlliK> Diegan: How much free do you have in your HDs? How much files you got?
[02:14] <tuxtheslacker> Diegan, BartPE
[02:14] <tuxtheslacker> hey Nameeater
[02:14] <philipp__> one moment, please
[02:14] <petrik> Damn that's going to mean I need to buy another drive to transfer it all to
[02:15] <tuxtheslacker> petrik, for what?
[02:15] <OlliK> Diegan: I don't think there is any WinXP Live-CDs
[02:15] <Diegan> I have enough to put all my data of main drive in another, if I clean un first
[02:15] <khafra> Is the Dapper Drake beta stable enough to give to a new-to-linuxy person, or should I install Breezy Badger for her?
[02:15] <Diegan> if not winXP, any windows based system
[02:15] <tuxtheslacker> Diegan, OlliK, yes there are: it's called BartPD
[02:15] <tuxtheslacker> PE*
[02:15] <khafra> I've got Backtrack on the laptop right now
[02:15] <rochfordo> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
[02:15] <Diegan> I just downloaded it
[02:15] <OlliK> Diegan: Maybe you could use qparted to make all the available space to your ext3-partition in Linux, and copy all of the files there
[02:16] <Diegan> but I cant find windows installation files in my other comp
[02:16] <tuxtheslacker> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
[02:16] <tuxtheslacker> oh, rochfordo beat me to it :-)
[02:16] <tuxtheslacker> Diegan, ^^ go to that link and download :-)
[02:17] <petrik> Got a 120 gig in NTFS format chock full of data. Cant change file system with data on the drive
[02:17] <philipp__> rochfordo: on the router?
[02:18] <rochfordo> phillip_, on the linux box
[02:18] <rochfordo> route -n
[02:18] <rochfordo> you need entries respectively for both networks
[02:18] <philipp__> rochfordo: 10.0.0.0 over eth1 192.168.36.0 over eth0
[02:18] <rochfordo> with a default gw of the interfaces linked to the subnets
[02:19] <arcade> rochfordo: sounds wrong.
[02:19] <arcade> uhm
[02:19] <philipp__> rochforce: dest 0.0.0.0 over 192.168.36.1
[02:19] <rochfordo> uhuh
[02:19] <arcade> philipp__: Thing is.  Say you have eth0:192.168.0.1, and eth1:10.0.0.1
[02:19] <rochfordo> that's the default gw
[02:19] <arcade> And you only need routing between them.
[02:20] <philipp__> arcade: that's what I want
[02:20] <arcade> Then on all the clients on 192.168.0.0/24, you specify 192.168.0.1 and the gateway for 10.0.0.0/8
[02:20] <jackson> hi everybody
[02:20] <philipp__> arcade: rochfordo: I just want to have a connection between this subnets, no internet, nothing else ;-)
[02:20] <jackson> hi
[02:20] <tuxtheslacker> hi jackson
[02:20] <arcade> On all the clients on 10.0.0.0/8, you specify 10.0.0.1 as the gateway for 192.168.0.0/24
[02:21] <jackson> how are u guys ,,i am from tanzania ,,i enjoy using  UBUNTU
[02:21] <rochfordo> arcade, shouldn't really be nescessary
[02:21] <philipp__> arcade: uh, that may be the problem: the way back
[02:21] <arcade> route add -net 10.0.0.0/8 gw 192.168.0.1 if i remember correctly
[02:21] <arcade> on all the clients on 192.168.0.1
[02:21] <rochfordo> aaah
[02:21] <arcade> and on all the 10.0.0.0/8 machines you specify 'route add -net 192.168.0.0/24 gw 10.0.0.1"
[02:21] <chapium> jackson, grrreat
[02:22] <philipp__> now it works
[02:22] <chapium> jackson, how's the weather
[02:22] <arcade> philipp__: Good.
[02:22] <rochfordo> :)
[02:22] <philipp__> Thanks
[02:22] <jackson> I want to remote my other machine   on the next room,,but that machine have a XP can i get connected???
[02:22] <arcade> philipp__: no problem.
[02:22] <jackson> the wether is hot
[02:22] <philipp__> I didn't thought about the way from 192.168.36.0 to 10.0.0.0 ;-)
[02:22] <chapium> jackson, oooo
[02:22] <arcade> philipp__: Classic. :)
[02:22] <chapium> jackson, how are you wanting to remotely connect to the windows computer?
[02:22] <jackson> some help plz
[02:23] <chapium> jackson, remote desktop?
[02:23] <chapium> jackson, or do you just want to see the files?
[02:23] <rochfordo> or any one of a plethora of remote vulns chapium ;P
[02:23] <philipp__> now I'm able to watch my vdr-streams via wlan, quite nice.
[02:23] <jackson> i want to continue doing my worksheet i left on the other machine desktop,,can i???
[02:23] <POVaddct> jackson: install vnc server on the XP machine
[02:24] <jackson> i want to remote it ,as if i am there
[02:24] <chapium> if you have remote desktop enabled, you can use tsclient
[02:24] <arcade> or 'rdesktop' :)
[02:24] <jackson> i have vnc, but i want to  have the all accsec if i listean music i want it to be heard here were i am now
[02:25] <arcade> jackson: I don't think that's easy to do.
[02:25] <sonasks> i try to burn 4.3 GB file to a dvd-r, no luck at all
[02:25] <chapium> window's remote desktop is probably your best bet
[02:25] <chapium> that and running the music locally
[02:25] <arcade> jackson: That would include support for a remote sound server .. no idea whether you can play mp3's through rdp.
[02:25] <sonasks> i`m using growisofs
[02:25] <jackson> okey ,,its not easy ,,???/
[02:25] <arcade> jackson: Not the sound bit.
[02:25] <POVaddct> arcade: remote desktop with sound is only possible with rdp version 5.1. XP has only rdp version 5.0.
[02:26] <arcade> POVaddct: I really didn't need to know that, but thanks anyway ;)
[02:26] <POVaddct> arcade: sorry :) i meant jackson
[02:26] <philipp__> just learned another thing: wlan 11mbit is not enough for vdr-streams ;-)
[02:26] <twopeak> Is there an easy way to unmount an internal disk?
[02:26] <chapium> umount
[02:26] <arcade> POVaddct: It's horrible enough that I have to do administration on wintendos from time to time - I've been lucky enough not to use it personally since '99 ;D
[02:26] <jackson> oops am happy any way u guys are very suppotive thanks
[02:26] <arcade> philipp__: haha :)
[02:26] <rohan> hi all
[02:26] <arcade> philipp__: The important thing is that you got things up and running :D
[02:27] <rohan> isnt the dapper RC supposed to be out today ?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> !tell rohan  about dapper
[02:28] <philipp__> arcade: my girlfriend has a 54mbit card........i thing that i just take her pc to view....
[02:28] <arcade> philipp__: hehe :)
[02:29] <philipp__> seeya, thanks!
[02:30] <sonasks> it really pisses me off - i can`t burn a single 4 GB file to a dvd-r with my backup
[02:30] <sonasks> jesus...
[02:30] <sonasks> how difficult is that ??
[02:30] <ompaul> !language
[02:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[02:30] <sonasks> ok, sorry
[02:30] <ompaul> sonasks, it is not hard at all, do this
[02:31] <sonasks> oh, the frustration ...
[02:31] <sonasks> i tried growisofs, mkudffs
[02:31] <ompaul> sonasks, click on places, home and launch nautilus
[02:31] <sonasks> went through all the forum
[02:31] <petrik> linux and frustration are married
[02:31] <Wiener> Hello
[02:31] <ompaul> sonasks, Oi! just do what I am asking ;-) it worked for me yesterday
[02:32] <Wiener> Has anybody worked with a preseed installation?
[02:32] <sonasks> can i directly burn to a dvd via dvdrecord/cdrecord ??
[02:32] <sonasks> without making the image first ?
[02:32] <ompaul> sonasks, not without creating an image, it is not advisable, unless you like coasters
[02:32] <macsim> hi all, I'm uable to play a dvd, totem doesn't read it, I've install the libdvdcss following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, I use totem-xine.
[02:32] <komao> I need help, I have troubles with icons in VNC sessions
[02:33] <sonasks> not even mentioning that every time i execute something on a drive, it takes ages
[02:33] <sonasks> and this smiley red led won`t even blink
[02:33] <sonasks> of course CD works fine
[02:33] <sonasks> reading the dvd works fine too
[02:33] <komao> In fact every icon is replaced by a sort of standard"file" icon
[02:34] <sonasks> but when it comes to dvd... ehh... - some 2GB limitations of files, even in UDF - i don`t know how this is possible
[02:34] <sonasks> UDF IS for big files, isn`t it ??
[02:34] <tubbie> the azureus popup messae is not disappearing when I click on close
[02:34] <arcade> sonasks: huh?
[02:35] <arcade> sonasks: Calm down and we can probably figure things out for you. :)
[02:35] <sonasks> :D
[02:35] <arcade> sonasks: First off, do you want to be able to do this graphically or from the command line?
[02:35] <sonasks> comamndline only
[02:35] <arcade> sonasks: And, is it the creation of the image that fails, or the burning of the image to the dvd-rom?
[02:36] <sonasks> well, both.. but i think, that the image creation fault is responsible for writing fail
[02:36] <arcade> sonasks: Okay, how do you attempt to create the image?
[02:36] <sinan> s
[02:36] <sonasks> ok, that`s nice : :-( /dev/hdc: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0
[02:36] <sonasks> i have a fresh TDK dvd-r in there
[02:37] <sonasks> here is the command i`m using for burning :
[02:37] <arcade> sonasks: Not interested in that.  Interested in the command.
[02:37] <arcade> sonasks: Begin with the command for creating the image.
[02:37] <sonasks> growisofs -dvd-compat speed=8 -Z /dev/hdc -R -J -pad /path_to_file
[02:38] <sonasks> this command returns the mentioned before errro
[02:38] <arcade> sonasks: sounds like a very wrong command, if /dev/hdc is your dvd-drive.
[02:39] <sonasks> welll
[02:39] <sonasks> it is /dev/hdc
[02:39] <arcade> oh.
[02:39] <arcade> combined mkisofs and burning program
[02:39] <tubbie> !java
[02:39] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:39] <sonasks> what do you mean ?
[02:40] <arcade> sonasks: I usually create the .iso first, then burn.
[02:40] <arcade> first mkisofs, then write out to the dvd-rom
[02:40] <sonasks> dunno - file too large blah blah
[02:41] <Fysidiko> I need to get a 6GB DVD ISO onto my Windows hard disk, but my FAT32 share can only take files up to 4GB
[02:41] <Fysidiko> Is there any way I can split it that Windows can then reconstruct?
[02:41] <sonasks> try rar
[02:42] <Fysidiko> OK
[02:42] <Fysidiko> Thanks
[02:42] <Fysidiko> How would I create a split rar file?
[02:42] <sonasks> you can split files in rar under linux, and then join them together under windows
[02:42] <rochfordo> sonasks, but it'll still be a 6gb iso
[02:42] <sonasks> install rar first, then do man rar
[02:42] <Fysidiko> ok
[02:43] <sonasks> oh, sorry
[02:43] <ubuntu> potter
[02:43] <sonasks> you can`t write such a big file on fat32
[02:43] <rochfordo> harry?
[02:43] <spikeb> harry!
[02:43] <Larsson-Sweden> How to enable vsync for the fglrx driver?
[02:44] <Fysidiko> sonasks: Yes I know, I have Windows on NTFS
[02:44] <Fysidiko> sonasks: With a FAT32 swap, but I can't move this file because it's too big
[02:44] <rochfordo> aaaah
[02:44] <rochfordo> that sucks
[02:44] <Fysidiko> sonasks: man rar comes up undocumented :(
[02:45] <sonasks> the try rar -help
[02:45] <sonasks> or rar --help
[02:47] <karim> I try to build a simple thing like joe, I do "apt-build install joe", and it fails with checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:47] <gnomefreak> karim: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:47] <karim> gnomefreak, I have it already
[02:48] <karim> gnomefreak, would you try to build it ?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> karim: than your prolly trying to compile it with wrong gcc
[02:48] <karim> I have this problem since some time
[02:48] <karim> gnomefreak, the compile works with dpkg-buildpackage
[02:49] <Intangir> does anyone know of a repartitioning software for linux that doesnt destroy a partition when you resize it?
[02:49] <gnomefreak> Intangir: gparted or qtparted
[02:49] <sonasks> ok, that`s i will download files through ftp, and burn it under windows
[02:49] <gnomefreak> karim: ive never used that way to build anything i normally use the tar
[02:50] <Intangir> gnomefreak: that lets you resize partitions without destroyign them? does it work with NTFS?
[02:50] <karim> gnomefreak, apt-build is like emerge
[02:51] <gnomefreak> Intangir: it should
[02:51] <gnomefreak> karim: i know what apt-build is i just only used it once
[02:51] <Intangir> cool ill check it out
[02:51] <karim> gnomefreak, I use it on powerpc right now, but had the same error on amd64 or i386. don't know what's wrong
[02:53] <nubix> hey i got a question...i f'ed up my video driver trying to use the via driver instead of vesa driver...anyway i fixed using dselect and apt-get to remove and reinstall xserver-xorg...is there a better way?
[02:53] <tuxtheslacker> hello all. sorry I got booted before :-)
[02:53] <ompaul> hi Hobbsee
[02:53] <yccheok_>  hi, may i noe why the following g++ compilation error happen? http://rafb.net/paste/results/yX85g646.html
[02:53] <yccheok_> i thought i had specific the correct library path
[02:54] <Hobbsee> hi ompaul
[02:54] <Fysidiko> Can anyone tell me how to split a file using rar? I'm reading the help files but I can't figure it out
[02:54] <nubix> anyone know? cuz i want to experiment with different drivers
[02:55] <choichoi_> hello
[02:55] <hyphenated> yccheok_: it needs libfreeimage.so at build time, not libfreeimage-3.8.0.so
[02:55] <choichoi_> I have a problem with nvidia-glx when I install it I have an error in unpack :
[02:55] <choichoi_> diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by nvidia-glx' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by nvidia-glx-legacy
[02:56] <choichoi_> I dont understand what is the problem ?
[02:56] <Kane666> hey
[02:56] <nytr8_> how do i specify the location of rgb.txt in XFree86
[02:56] <chapium> choichoi- did you sudo?
[02:56] <nytr8_> It was missing i placed it back into its location
[02:56] <hyphenated> choichoi_: it looks like you're trying to install nvidia-glx and already have nvidia-glx-legacy installed
[02:57] <tuxtheslacker> hey, can someone tell me where I can find the cdrao packages?
[02:57] <nytr8_> Application initialization failed: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black"
[02:57] <nytr8_> that s the error i get
[02:57] <hyphenated> tuxtheslacker: you probably want cdrdao
[02:58] <karim> gnomefreak, the error is  checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:58] <hyphenated> tuxtheslacker: and it's in the 'universe' repository, if you haven't enabled it already
[02:58] <tuxtheslacker> that'd be it hydroksyde_ :-)
[02:58] <hyphenated> karim: install the 'build-essential' package
[02:58] <tuxtheslacker> hyphenated, *
[02:58] <tuxtheslacker> I read it wrong :-P
[02:58] <karim> hyphenated, it's installed ...
[02:58] <karim> hyphenated, I try to build with apt-build but it fails
[02:59] <albinoloverats> is there a way to check if terminal is a login terminal or not, using bash script?
[02:59] <gnomefreak> karim: i would try gcc-3.4
[03:00] <gnomefreak> apt-build maybe trying to build it with gcc4 and joe might have been build with gcc3.4
[03:00] <deleea> hej! does anybody know how to install the last.fm player? I've tried to follow the instructions but somehow  I can't copy the file into /lib...
[03:00] <tuxtheslacker> wow, and everything works too.... I'll stick with ubuntu :-)
[03:01] <tuxtheslacker> The only thing that bothers me is that I can't get the cisco vpn module to load on startup :-/.
[03:01] <Fysidiko> How do I create a rar archive?
[03:02] <choichoi_> hyphenated, there is the same error when I try to install nvidia-glx-legacy
[03:03] <karim> gnomefreak, the build goes fine with dpkg-buildpackage on the same source
[03:03] <ben_underscore> anyone know much about xfce4 on ubuntu?
[03:03] <gnomefreak> choichoi_: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx-legacy
[03:03] <gnomefreak> karim: dpkg has nothing to do with gcc
[03:04] <gnomefreak> ben_underscore: in daper yes
[03:04] <gnomefreak> dapper*
[03:04] <karim> gnomefreak, ok bu dpkg-buildpackage succes where apt-build fails, so I am wondering
[03:04] <gnomefreak> choichoi_: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx    than install nvidia-glx
[03:04] <MiniJames> i want to pin back updates from apt-get
[03:05] <MiniJames> i read a howto, and it rejected my file
[03:05] <MiniJames> ^^ any help?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell MiniJames about pinning
[03:05] <MiniJames> :) thanks
[03:05] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:05] <MiniJames> :)
[03:05] <stjepan> anyone here familiar with HTML?
[03:06] <ben_underscore> gnomefreak, i'm still using breezy. when i click the exit button on the dock and choose the shutdown option, it does not power down properly. it's an ibm t22 laptop
[03:06] <ben_underscore> stjepan, yep
[03:06] <gnomefreak> ben_underscore: define doesnt power down properly
[03:06] <gnomefreak> ben_underscore: it drops you to a tty? than waits than you get last 4 lines or so of usplash?
[03:07] <ben_underscore> gnomefreak, yep
[03:07] <gnomefreak> lol yeah everyone does
[03:07] <gnomefreak> ben_underscore: try in #xubuntu
[03:08] <gnomefreak> maybe someone there knows why it does that
[03:08] <ben_underscore> gnomefreak, ah, tx
[03:08] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:09] <deleea> anyone can tell me why files can't be found when I want to copy them?
[03:11] <MiniJames> hm help
[03:11] <MiniJames> How to keep specific versions of packages installed (complex)
[03:11] <Healot> we can't/// why can't it be found?
[03:14] <runes> morning everyone
[03:14] <ivan_> hallo
[03:14] <runes> well it's day 4 of migration from windows 2003 to ubuntu!
[03:15] <stjepan> how to center an image in the html document vertically and horizontally? What to do except align=center?
[03:16] <ompaul> MiniJames, there is something on wiki.ubuntu.com about a process called "pinning" that is how it is done
[03:16] <Healot> stjepan, <img src="" align=center
[03:16] <ivan_> ahoj je tu slovak alebo cech alebo madadar alebo yahorak ?
[03:16] <runes> stjepan not sure still tryig to figure out how to get sound working
[03:16] <Healot> stjepan, <img src="" align="center">
[03:16] <MiniJames> IM on the article
[03:16] <Felll> anybody who knows when monodevelop 0.11 will be available for ubuntu ?
[03:16] <stjepan> tnx
[03:16] <MiniJames> but, its complex
[03:16] <MiniJames> :)
[03:16] <MiniJames> i think ive cracked it
[03:16] <ompaul> Minerale, where is that article
[03:17] <stjepan> Ivaldi, ja sam hrvat
[03:17] <twopeak> stjepan, you can't center them vertically. You can use CSS to make a div that is centered in the middle of the screen and put your image in there.
[03:17] <karim> gnomefreak, checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables  still the same error
[03:17] <stjepan> ops, it was for ivan_
[03:17] <deleea> I have this: /home/deleea/tmp/Last.fm-1.1.4 and tried to do  sudo mv last.fm-1.1.4 /lib/last.fm     the answer was that  stat couldn't be called because "last.fm-1.1.4" couldn't be found...
[03:17] <ompaul> stjepan, where is the langauge from?
[03:17] <ivan_> aim slovak men
[03:17] <stjepan> ompaul, Croatia
[03:17] <ompaul> ahh
[03:17] <runes> is anyone here using an asus motherboard?
[03:17] <ivan_> ungarn ? deutch ?
[03:18] <ivan_> ubuntu super
[03:18] <dracflamloc> lo
[03:18] <gnomefreak> karim: i still think its a gcc3.4 issue install gcc-3.4 and thanuse the export command so ubuntu uses 3.4 than try again
[03:18] <ompaul> ivan_, stjepan there is a #ubuntu-sk
[03:19] <ivan_> who dovnload file ?
[03:19] <MiniJames> james@jameslaptop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:19] <MiniJames> Reading package lists... Done
[03:19] <MiniJames> E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header
[03:19] <MiniJames> james@jameslaptop:~$
[03:19] <MiniJames> thats my problem with pinning back
[03:19] <MiniJames> im trying to pin back gimp to version 2.2.4
[03:19] <vmware> k
[03:19] <MiniJames> so that gimpshop doesnt get overwritten
[03:19] <ivan_> bay aim exit
[03:20] <lazy> deleea, L != l
[03:20] <karim> gnomefreak, I need some help about export command. however some people use it fine with gcc4 on another chanel
[03:20] <stjepan> ompaul, no, #ubuntu-hr
[03:20] <Healot> MiniJames: i think you still use the American repos server list
[03:20] <Healot> read the topic... MiniJames
[03:20] <MiniJames> its broken right?
[03:20] <runes> karim  su
[03:20] <MiniJames> i rad
[03:20] <MiniJames> read
[03:20] <runes> CC=gcc-3.4
[03:20] <ompaul> The American (US) repositories are not working - please take the us. out of your /etc/apt/sources.list file.
[03:20] <runes> export CC
[03:20] <MiniJames> 1 sec
[03:20] <runes> exit
[03:20] <karim> ok
[03:20] <runes> CC=gcc-3.4
[03:20] <runes> export CC
[03:20] <ompaul> !us
[03:21] <ubotu> **NB** The US Archives are having frequent issues, remove the "us" out of your  sources.list by typing >> sudo sed -i 's/us\.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list <<in a terminal (Menu applications accessories terminal)
[03:21] <gnomefreak> karim: exportCC=3.4 i think is the command
[03:21] <karim> as root or user ?
[03:21] <karim> that's just for envinrnnement ?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> user
[03:21] <runes> karim it forces the file sto complie with 3.4 rather than 4.0
[03:21] <runes> I had to do that to get the nvidia video running
[03:21] <jackson> does the  UBUNTU have yahoo messenger in???
[03:22] <MiniJames> im using "gb"
[03:22] <MiniJames> its not a problem with the us repos
[03:22] <MiniJames> :/
[03:22] <runes> jackson: depends if you use gnome it is workign in gaim
[03:22] <MiniJames> gaim is great (*y)
[03:22] <ompaul> jackson, have a look at gaim :-)
[03:23] <karim> gnomefreak runes I am on powerpc, but I will try on a K7 box also
[03:23] <runes> Has anyone had any success getting the nvaudio working?
[03:23] <deleea> lazy, I changed it, but it still doesn't work...
[03:23] <ompaul> MiniJames, have a look at this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[03:23] <MiniJames> :S
[03:23] <MiniJames> im there already
[03:23] <homer_> hello
[03:23] <homer_> hey
[03:23] <homer_> can enybody help me
[03:24] <MiniJames> ive done everything by the howto
[03:24] <spikeb> !ask
[03:24] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:24] <jackson> what software i can use to burn cd on ubuntu???
[03:24] <ompaul> MiniJames, well I asked you where it was and you had not replied
[03:24] <homer_> I have a prob. with my sound card, it's not working, ubuntu 5.10, creative labs 24bit
[03:24] <runes> jackson: what desktop are you using gnone or kde
[03:25] <MiniJames> ompaul: I have followed the tutorial
[03:25] <MiniJames> ompaul: im getting an error from apt
[03:25] <MiniJames> E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header
[03:25] <jackson> am using GNOME
[03:25] <tubbie> make-jpkg: command not found
[03:25] <tubbie> ??/
[03:26] <ompaul> MiniJames, so look here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/06/msg00876.html
[03:26] <runes> !ask
[03:26] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:29] <skript> should I run apt-get upgrade on my breezy system before I do dist-upgrade to dapper or can I just go with dist-upgrade ? I haven't done any upgrades to breezy ever since I installed it, so I'm wandering wether dist-upgrading straight away would be safe ?
[03:29] <runes> problem with sound: using asus a8n vm-csm motherboard
[03:29] <Answer> !upgrade
[03:29] <mdeboer> hi
[03:29] <jackson> i want to add a printer on M Y PC WHAT CAN I DO??AM USING ubuntu,gnome
[03:29] <spikeb> skript: definitely upgrade before the dist upgrade
[03:29] <runes> !upgrade
[03:29] <Answer> !tell skript about upgrade
[03:30] <skript> ok ok... i get the *point* ;) thanx !
[03:30] <tubbie> what do I install to get gcc?
[03:30] <tubbie> essentials?
[03:30] <Answer> tubbie, i think gcc
[03:31] <Healot> !build
[03:31] <ubotu> If you want to build software, you need the build-essential package to start with
[03:31] <Healot> !java-deb
[03:31] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot
[03:31] <Answer> or gcc-4.0 depends on the version
[03:31] <Healot> !java
[03:31] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:31] <anil> how to set vi mode for bash?
[03:31] <MiniJames> jackson: stop shouting
[03:31] <MiniJames> !ask
[03:31] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:31] <nubix> can someone help me install via unichrome pro driver? it says to edit /etc/X11/XvMCConfig but i don't see that file anywhere
[03:31] <gnomefreak> skript: run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  when thats done run gksudo "update-manager -d"