[12:38] <livingdaylight> abattoir: i can tell System Settings is buggy
[12:38] <cpk2> livingdaylight: always has been imho
[12:40] <livingdaylight> that was very reassuring of cpk2
[12:40] <cpk2> abattoir: wow, it actually was the order
[12:40] <livingdaylight> cpk2: thx for your reassurance, :s
[12:41] <abattoir> livingdaylight: try reconfiguring xserver-xorg, can't think of anything else...
[12:41] <cpk2> livingdaylight: well, sometimes i cant get admin in system settings and sometimes some of the guis wont load
[12:41] <abattoir> cpk2: hmm, what was your issue again? :P
[12:41] <livingdaylight> cpk2: that is unacceptable -surely?!
[12:41] <abattoir> cpk2: aah, yes, changing the res. through kb shortcuts :)
[12:41] <cpk2> abattoir: ctrl alt -/+ wasnt giving me the resolution I use normally
[12:42] <cpk2> now if only the kdm login screen would start at the right res...
[12:42] <livingdaylight> or else i'll eat the cd
[12:42] <abattoir> livingdaylight: mm, wait
[12:42] <cpk2> livingdaylight: what happened?
[12:42] <abattoir> livingdaylight: reinstalling whenever you have a problem isnt the right solution
[12:43] <abattoir> livingdaylight: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[12:43] <abattoir> livingdaylight: wait
[12:43] <livingdaylight> abattoir: i know but it is a totally fresh install anyhow so i am not losing anything
[12:43] <livingdaylight> abattoir: ok
[12:43] <abattoir> livingdaylight: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[12:43] <cpk2> livingdaylight: BUT it will be good to learn for when/if it happens further down the line
[12:43] <abattoir> livingdaylight: choose your driver, nv, and select all the resolutions that you need(space bar)
[12:44] <abattoir> livingdaylight: then restart X, open system settings and try again
[12:44] <abattoir> livingdaylight: you are losing time :)
[12:44] <abattoir> livingdaylight: you could be installing java instead of reinstalling again :P
[12:45] <livingdaylight> abattoir: lol, i know! you think i wanna be messing with this. but my current resolution is not acceptable. I wish i didn't have to jump over these unnecessary hurdles. Linux should be improved enough that stuff like that is not an issue anymore
[12:46] <livingdaylight> abattoir: screen resolution is something very basic
[12:46] <abattoir> livingdaylight: ugh, the perennial debate.... blame the Hardware vendors... :)
[12:46] <livingdaylight> abattoir: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg?
[12:47] <abattoir> livingdaylight: yup
[12:47] <livingdaylight> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you mean?
[12:47] <abattoir> no include phigh
[12:47] <abattoir> you dont want to go through the others do you? ;)
[12:47] <cpk2> abattoir: why not just edit xorg to get the res. he wants?
[12:48] <abattoir> cpk2: wait, i thought we were through that...
[12:48] <livingdaylight> cpk2: that is what abattoir is suggesting i do
[12:48] <livingdaylight> abattoir: that command isn't opening it up
[12:49] <cpk2> XD
[12:49] <livingdaylight> abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26418/
[12:49] <livingdaylight> cpk2: :D i am my problem, lol
[12:50] <livingdaylight> sudo dpkg-reconfigure livinddaylights-brain
[12:50] <abattoir> livingdaylight: did you select your driver, res etc. ?
[12:50] <cpk2> livingdaylight: thats not an error, thats information
[12:51] <abattoir> livingdaylight: you didnt get the bluescreen where you choose your driver, select res. etc. ?
[12:52] <livingdaylight> abattoir: no
[12:53] <cpk2> i've got another X question... I have one of those microsoft keyboards with those newfangled keys to control a media player and stuff, anyway I could get those keys to work?
[12:54] <abattoir> livingdaylight: ummm, can you try Ctrl+Alt++ ?
[12:54] <abattoir> cpk2: edgy or dapper?
[12:54] <cpk2> livingdaylight: just to let you know, I am *pretty* sure that I just clicked on system settings to open it, but it doesnt look like its doing anything =P
[12:54] <cpk2> abattoir: dapper
[12:55] <abattoir> cpk2: it should work out of the box in edgy... ;)
[12:55] <abattoir> cpk2: System Settings->Reg. and Acc.->Keyboard Layout->Keyboard Model .... see if something similar to your keyboard is listed
[12:58] <cpk2> abattoir: I found one that was almost my keyboard (mine is rev 1.1 the one in the menu is 1.0a) and the keyboard still works (duh) time to test the keys!
[12:58] <cpk2> YES
[12:59] <cpk2> I am kind of ashamed I hadnt thought to look in that menu
[01:01] <cpk2> abattoir: so is edgy going to detect this automatically and even (dare I ask this) bind them for you?
[01:01] <abattoir> cpk2: yes, it should, Lure(a kubuntu dev) has worked hard on that ;)
[01:01] <cpk2> I mean who doesnt want to have a "Calcultor" button that actually works
[01:01] <abattoir> cpk2: for eg. my Laptop media keys work out of the box
[01:01] <cpk2> awesome
[01:02] <cpk2> its always the little things like this that make ubuntu seem so much cooler =D
[01:03] <abattoir> cpk2: thanks the devs ;)
[01:05] <cpk2> oh boy I am so happy I can use these keys again lol
[01:06] <cpk2> even the labels for it are clear AND correct
[01:07] <hyper> how comes I need to tell KDE to reboot or shutdown twice through the gui before it actually does shutdown or reboot?
[01:07] <cpk2> xf86volumeup xf86volumedown xf86calculator and so on
[01:07] <cpk2> hyper: you could just issue a sudo reboot or sudo powerdown
[01:07] <hyper> cpk2: well, but why doesn't it work through the gui the first time?
[01:07] <hyper> hiho abattoir :)
[01:08] <abattoir> hi hyper :)
[01:08] <cpk2> well I wasnt even really aware that users could shut down or reboot
[01:09] <abattoir> hyper: you mean, you'll have to go through the same process twice? (KMenu->Log Out->Turnoff) ?
[01:09] <hyper> KStart --> Logout --> Menu with "End Current Session, Turn Computer off, Restart Computer, Hibernate Computer"
[01:09] <hyper> abattoir: Yes, I have to do it twice
[01:09] <abattoir> hyper: that's weird, edgy? or dapper?
[01:09] <hyper> If I do it only once then it logs out Konversation and also logs out from Kopete
[01:09] <hyper> abattoir: edgy
[01:10] <hyper> it's been the same in dapper and in gnome/dapper
[01:10] <abattoir> hyper: that's weird, must be something w/ your hardware/setup then
[01:11] <hyper> abattoir: I don't know :(
[01:11] <cpk2> i've never tried restarting or powering down via a gui
[01:11] <hyper> abattoir: what's the best way to reconfigure the keyboard? I want to switch  with |
[01:11] <cpk2> i always just issue a sudo reboot or sudo powerdown
[01:11] <hyper> AltGr - 7 -->    and AltGr - 1 --> |
[01:12] <andersen-hc> sbin/init 6
[01:12] <hyper> cpk2: through shell it works immediately
[01:12] <hyper> cpk2: just not through gui
[01:16] <hyper> abattoir: what do you think of this here?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=275036
[01:18] <abattoir> hyper: have you checked the Keyboard section in System Settings?
[01:20] <abattoir> hyper: hmm, what must i think of it? can't think of anything :P
[01:20] <cpk2> is there a nero type clone for linux?
[01:20] <hyper> abattoir: yes, but I don't wanna fuck up my keyboard :)
[01:20] <cristian> hi
[01:21] <abattoir> hyper: not sure of any other way, and please mind your language :)
[01:21] <hyper> abattoir: well, kubuntu (desktop) comes with a lot of stuff and that might be a good way to get rid of it all from the beginning and then install the needed software afterwards... does that look like a good guide for achieving that?
[01:22] <abattoir> hyper: hmm, i wouldnt say so :P
[01:23] <abattoir> hyper: i think the best way would be to install kde-core after kde-desktop after you do that
[01:23] <cristian> next kubuntu version will support xgl "out of the box"?
[01:24] <abattoir> hyper: one of the adv. of kde is the 'complete' desktop, you lose on that if you selectively install things likkdesktop w/o kicker etc.
[01:24] <hyper> OK
[01:24] <abattoir> cristian: X in it supports compositing out of the box, xgl is available in the repos for you to install
[01:25] <cristian> thx for the info abattoir
[01:25] <abattoir> np
[01:25] <hyper> Abattoir: Hmmm, I can't find out how to change altg - 7 and altgr - 1....
[01:25] <theresa> hey
[01:25] <theresa> would you recommend upgrading to edgy already?
[01:26] <theresa> because i'm really excited about the new features :)
[01:26] <kiko> hola
[01:26] <cpk2> hello
[01:27] <kiko> puedes tu hablar espaol
[01:27] <pansy> heda
[01:27] <abattoir> hyper: do you use a US keyboard?
[01:27] <abattoir> !es
[01:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:27] <pansy> donde esta la zapateria?
[01:27] <hyper> abattoir: no, swiss German
[01:27] <hyper> abattoir: and two keys are swapped....
[01:28] <hyper> AltGr-1 should be   but it's  |    and AltGr-7 should be | but it's
[01:28] <abattoir> theresa: well, its still under development, if you'd like to help out in testing, and don't mind bugs, or your system breaking, you can upgrade ;)
[01:28] <abattoir> theresa: if you are new, you'd do better to wait till its released :)
[01:29] <abattoir> hyper: i'm not sure how that's done, sorry
[01:29] <hyper> abattoir: well... hmmm... ok :)
[01:29] <Vegeta^> Why is it that the system doesn't mount a usbdisk automatically, it says that I need to be a root user, but it didn't say that before I unmounted and then mounted. It always used to mount the disk when I pluged it in, without the need to mount it like a root user. I'm using (kde) ubuntu dist.
[01:31] <tekoraik> hola
[01:32] <tekoraik> tengo un problema con kubuntu, este no se me apaga, y siempre cuando inicio de nuevo se me abre dvdauthor automaticamente
[01:32] <tekoraik> alguien me puede ayudar?
[01:32] <hyper> !es
[01:32] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:33] <theresa> abattoir: alright, thanks! a fortnight ain't too long, is it?! ;)
[01:33] <Momal> How to move windows down that the title bar is up above the top of the screen?
[01:33] <hyper> !es > tekoraik
[01:34] <cpk2> Momal: can you scroll the screen up with your mouse?
[01:35] <Momal> cpk2: nope
[01:35] <KDEfanboy> Momal: either press Alt+F3 and go down to "move" then move it with the cursor
[01:35] <Momal> alt+f3 didn't do anything :S
[01:36] <KDEfanboy> and/or setup Control Center -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> Window Actions and change a 'inner window.."  combination to 'move'
[01:36] <KDEfanboy> Momal: should open up the menu for kwin. is it running?
[01:37] <Momal> alt+click and move... thanks :)
[01:37] <Momal> kwin isn't thats why didn't show up.. Im running beryl and emerald at the moment ^^
[01:37] <Momal> but in the window actions bit found key combo and worked fine :D.. thanks
[01:37] <zorglu_> Momal: what is emerald ?
[01:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi buddies? doesn't exists a way of syncro gmail contact online with kontacts in linux?
[01:37] <Momal> theme manager used with beryl
[01:37] <Momal> !beryl
[01:37] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[01:38] <zorglu_> ok
[01:38] <KDEfanboy> Momal: probably better to ask window management questions in there then
[01:40] <Momal> I asked here because of KDE... it was the alt+click in KDE that made it move no in Beryl
[01:41] <kiko> bueno estoy en canales de habla hispana y no contesta ni el papa algun hispano hablante please
[01:41] <KDEfanboy> Momal: no, that's handled by the window manager. beryl's default combination for move is alt+click
[01:41] <Momal> arr.. well was lucky it was the same then :)
[01:42] <abattoir> theresa: a lot can change in 15s.... 15 days is too long ;) 14, to be accurate
[01:44] <theresa> abattoir: true, let's hope for the better ;)
[01:44] <abattoir> theresa: heh, indeed ;)
[01:44] <abattoir> theresa: tbh, edgy has been highly stable here
[01:44] <zorglu_> q. is there a way to make kopete use the 'usual kde' osd (the one on top right of the screen) instead of the custom one (on bottom left) ?
[01:45] <theresa> abattoir: what would you say is the best feature/improvement on edgy? what should I look forward to? i mean the artwork looks really amazing :)
[01:45] <cpk2> how stable is upgrading in ubuntu anyways?
[01:45] <cpk2> is one guarenteed to have at least a few problems when dist upgrading?
[01:46] <vi_> How do I upgrade KDE. I have 3.5.2 now.
[01:46] <abattoir> theresa: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/Beta/Kubuntu might explain it better, it's for the beta(we are close to RC time now)
[01:47] <abattoir> cpk2: no nothing like that
[01:47] <abattoir> cpk2: that doesnt mean its guaranteed that you won't run into problems ;)
[01:47] <abattoir> vi_: you want to upgrade to 3.5.5 ?
[01:47] <cpk2> i guess it wont be too bad as long as I can keep all of my settings
[01:48] <cpk2> thats my biggest petpeeve maybe
[01:48] <cpk2> having to reconfigure kde and whatnot if something goes bad
[01:48] <abattoir> cpk2: its always better to keep a backup of important data
[01:48] <cpk2> well I have /home on its own partition
[01:50] <vi_> abattoir: I think I want 3.5.5. Can I do it with Adept?
[01:50] <abattoir> vi_: sure
[01:50] <abattoir> vi_: open adept, Adept->Manage Repositories
[01:51] <psb154> vi_ take a look at: www.kubuntu.org/announcements
[01:51] <theresa> abattoir: oh yeah, I'm soooo looking forward to it! my only worry is that my programs won't be working on edgy anymore....
[01:51] <abattoir> theresa: what programs are those?
[01:53] <theresa> abattoir: just general worry.....any non-kde application...
[01:53] <abattoir> theresa: weird, i wonder what makes you think that
[01:54] <livingdaylight> !repos
[01:54] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:54] <vi_> abattoir: I am looking at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php. But why do I have to add special repositories for every KDE version?
[01:54] <livingdaylight> !souce-o-matic
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about souce-o-matic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <theresa> abattoir: don't know.....probably because i'm a linux beginner....and haven't been in that situation.......i started directly with dapper.....two days after daper came out....
[01:54] <abattoir> vi_: you can use the kde-latest repo instead
[01:54] <livingdaylight> !source-o-matic
[01:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:55] <abattoir> vi_: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main
[01:55] <CVirus> !math
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about math - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <CVirus> !kcharselect
[01:56] <ubotu> kcharselect: character selector for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 69 kB, installed size 332 kB
[01:56] <abattoir> theresa: i'd be surprised if something broke... so expect everything to work ;)
[01:57] <theresa> abattoir: excellent, that's a relief! :)
[01:57] <osh_> !kde
[01:57] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[01:58] <vi_> abattoir: Thanks. And it's no problem to update from 3.5.2 to 3.5.5?
[01:58] <abattoir> vi_: none that i've heard of
[01:58] <livingdaylight> i still don't get it: using source-o-matic for kubuntu do you add at the end of existing repos or replace?
[01:59] <livingdaylight> i don't see in the script i've been given universe and multiuniverse
[01:59] <livingdaylight> so, its gotta be an add on?
[01:59] <livingdaylight> abattoir: hi, just reinstalled Kubuntu :|
[02:00] <livingdaylight> abattoir: haven't even dared go into system setttings
[02:00] <abattoir> livingdaylight: ugh... why????
[02:00] <livingdaylight> abattoir: i wasn't happy with it
[02:00] <livingdaylight> abattoir: wanted to make sure i had a really clean install
[02:01] <livingdaylight> Looking for the current repos litst
[02:01] <livingdaylight> what is the best way to add all my repos?
[02:01] <vi_> abattoir: Can I detete deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 dapper main then?
[02:02] <livingdaylight> Is doing it via Synaptic a valid and complete way?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> vi_: you only need 1 kubuntu repo if you want the latest kde for dapper
[02:02] <abattoir> vi_: if you are adding kde-latest, yes
[02:03] <livingdaylight> Can someone help me create the best repos list. Using Dapper/Kubuntu
[02:04] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: use easysource to generate a list than add the kubuntu repo if you like
[02:04] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[02:04] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:05] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: that gives me too much gpg key headaches
[02:05] <CVirus> !kbfx
[02:05] <ubotu> kbfx is a replacement menu for KDE with enhanced features
[02:06] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: it tells you how to fix that at the top of the page
[02:06] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: any non-ubuntu repo you will have a gpg error until you download the gpg key for the repo
[02:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !ldap
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ldap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <ypsila> hello
[02:11] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: actually, i've found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu straightforward to use
[02:11] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: don't know what i'm missing now, though
[02:11] <livingdaylight> anyone know about riedels repos?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: they are on kubuntu.org
[02:12] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: ok :)
[02:15] <berkes> fwiw, I just created a kubuntu group on the social bookmark site simpy http://www.simpy.com/group/898
[02:15] <berkes> feel free to join if you're a simpy user
[02:20] <livingdaylight> is there an equivalent to the command killall gnome-panel? killall kde-panel maybe?
[02:21] <insanekane> livingdaylight: killall kicker
[02:21] <Dasnipa`> did i hear something like an end of oct release date?
[02:21] <livingdaylight> insanekane: thank you
[02:21] <Cybertinus> hello
[02:21] <Dasnipa`> release on halloween lol that would be cool
[02:22] <Cybertinus> I just installed Kubuntu on my second computer.
[02:22] <Cybertinus> but the installation went a bit wierd
[02:23] <Cybertinus> because windows in on the first disk, and ubuntu on the second
[02:23] <Cybertinus> the Kubuntu installation sees it correctly
[02:23] <Cybertinus> Grub is installed on the second disk, ntldr on the first disk
[02:24] <Cybertinus> so to have everything working correctly, I must boot from the second disk
[02:24] <Cybertinus> then the disks are swaped for grub. So Grub thinks that Kubuntu is on the first disk, and Windows on the second
[02:24] <gupta> which file to edit  for setting window manager independent, user-specific startup programs ??
[02:25] <Cybertinus> that is swaped back when Kubuntu is booted (so Windows is /dev/hda, Kubuntu is /dev/hdc)
[02:25] <Cybertinus> But when there is a kernel upgrade, apt-get fixes /boot/grub/menu.lst automaticaly for me
[02:25] <Cybertinus> but the disks are entered wrong
[02:26] <Cybertinus> how do I solve that, so that menu.lst stays correct?
[02:26] <Cybertinus> a long question :). Sorry for that
[02:29] <zorglu_> gupta: ~/.bashrc would do it
[02:30] <Cybertinus> gupta: or maybe /etc/rc.local, if it may run at boottime
[02:30] <zorglu_> and not 'user-specific' :)
[02:31] <Cybertinus> ah, true. /etc/rc.local is for all the users. My mistake. Sorry :)
[02:31] <sF|Xemanth> rc.local is for the root
[02:31] <Cybertinus> ~/.bashrc then :)
[02:35] <Cybertinus> anybody an idea for my problem?
[02:36] <zorglu_> i believe you can tune that with the 'map' in grub
[02:36] <zorglu_> but the how to do it is out of my knowledge :)
[02:37] <gupta> bashrc -- hmmm yes this should work.. thanks!
[02:37] <gupta> actually in my case its zshrc ;)
[02:37] <zorglu_> :)
[02:38] <slow-motion> hallo
[02:38] <zorglu_> Cybertinus: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Linux/Linux_Setup/Q_20736369.html and search 'map' you will see how to fix it
[02:39] <gupta> zorglu_: One question : will this require for me to fire konsole first?
[02:39] <zorglu_> Cybertinus: before trying, keep a working livecb around and backup the file :) it helps a lot in case of error :)
[02:39] <zorglu_> gupta: it will be launched everytime you launch a shell
[02:39] <gupta> hmm
[02:39] <_Caleb_> sup people
[02:39] <zorglu_> gupta: so it will be launch at every kconsole
[02:40] <zorglu_> gupta: maybe at the X login too, unsure about that
[02:40] <gupta> well then zshrc won't work :(
[02:40] <Cybertinus> zorglu_: thnx, gonna check it out
[02:40] <zorglu_> gupta: what do you wanna do
[02:41] <gupta> user-specific , window manager independent startup programs
[02:41] <gupta> startup programs - that start once
[02:42] <gupta> zshrc would launch them again and again
[02:42] <zorglu_> i dont understand what you want exactly
[02:43] <zorglu_> you can look at ~/.xsession or xsessionrc too
[02:43] <gupta> ok, I'll look around , thanks for trying
[02:49] <Dsbeerf> Hi, someone can take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26423/ and tell me what wrong mplayer is not in repos when i do apt-get install mplayer
[02:50] <livingdaylight> Using Synaptic i've got a dialog box pop up asking if i want to install package files only? Should i tick this? What else and other than package files could it install that i'd want?
[02:52] <zorglu_> !info mplayer
[02:52] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[02:52] <livingdaylight> can someone please tell me - synaptic is waiting to install
[02:52] <zorglu_> Dsbeerf: it is a multiverse repository
[02:52] <zorglu_> !universe
[02:52] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:53] <zorglu_> Dsbeerf: read the above link to know how to add multivrese repository
[02:53] <livingdaylight> Kaffeine is The Ultimate Movie Player - i'm sorry, but common!
[02:53] <livingdaylight> Using Synaptic i've got a dialog box pop up asking if i want to install package files only? Should i tick this? What else and other than package files could it install that i'd want?
[02:54] <saki> !wma
[02:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:54] <Dsbeerf> zorglu_: multiverse is enable
[02:54] <livingdaylight> Using Synaptic i've got a dialog box pop up asking if i want to install package files only? Should i tick this? What else and other than package files could it install that i'd want?
[02:54] <zorglu_> Dsbeerf: have you done 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[02:54] <DocTomoe> does anyone know what's up with kde-apps/look?
[02:55] <Dsbeerf> zorglu_: yes
[02:55] <livingdaylight> Using Synaptic i've got a dialog box pop up asking if i want to install package files only? Should i tick this? What else and other than package files could it install that i'd want?
[02:55] <livingdaylight> it must be lunch time
[02:55] <livingdaylight> or bed time...
[02:56] <Cybertinus> or "nobody knows"-time ;)
[02:56] <livingdaylight> or its a really tough question....
[02:56] <Dsbeerf> zorglu_: look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26423/ you will see my repos and update is done i dont understand
[02:56] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: do you use synaptic?
[02:56] <livingdaylight> if asked if you want to install package files only would you say yes or no?
[02:56] <zorglu_> Dsbeerf: me neither... :(
[02:57] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: yes. For the first time today :). I installed Kubuntu for the first time today :). I normaly use Gentoo ;)
[02:57] <_Caleb_> heh
[02:57] <_Caleb_> i was gonna use arch
[02:57] <_Caleb_> but it didnt like the video on this laptop
[02:57] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: hey, me too! well yesterday but had to reinstall fresh today again
[02:57] <_Caleb_> and kept taking a huge dump on me
[02:58] <Cybertinus> I installed Kubuntu on the PC of my little brother, so he can get to know Linux
[02:58] <Cybertinus> I keep using Gentoo on my machine ;)
[02:58] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: if asked if you wanted to install package files only would you say yes or no?
[02:58] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: aha...so its good enough for the 'little' brother but not good enough for you, huh? ;)
[02:58] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: I don't know exactly what is meant by "package files".
[02:59] <_Caleb_> i dont think it installs em
[02:59] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: aguess, i don't either, thats why i'm asking
[02:59] <_Caleb_> just downloads em and does nothing
[02:59] <livingdaylight> seriously guys, please, help!
[02:59] <livingdaylight> Using Synaptic i've got a dialog box pop up asking if i want to install package files only? Should i tick this? What else and other than package files could it install that i'd want?
[02:59] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: indeed :). I like the flexibilty of Gentoo. I don't gonna use Kubuntu on my computer :)
[02:59] <livingdaylight> if asked if you want to install package files only would you say yes or no?
[02:59] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: i don't do yoga
[03:00] <zorglu_> well if you want to install the pacakge, you say yes
[03:00] <zorglu_> else you say no
[03:00] <livingdaylight> zorglu_: no, the question is package file only!
[03:00] <zorglu_> i dont use synaptic, i use adept or apt-get
[03:00] <livingdaylight> zorglu_: which leads me to ask what else besides the package file could it install that i want or dont want
[03:00] <_Caleb_> click no
[03:01] <zorglu_> or yes
[03:01] <_Caleb_> all it would do is download the files
[03:01] <zorglu_> or better read the doc :)
[03:01] <livingdaylight> _Caleb_: thx
[03:01] <_Caleb_> nothing else it seems
[03:01] <_Caleb_> or that
[03:01] <_Caleb_> read the docs
[03:01] <Dr_willis> a lot of packages have 'reccomended' related pacaages.
[03:01] <Dsbeerf> someone can take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26423/ and tell me what wrong mplayer is not in repos when i do apt-get install mplayer :(
[03:01] <_Caleb_> and adept seems so much easier to use than synaptic
[03:01] <Dr_willis> Like the GRIP front end and the tools it uses.
[03:02] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: so, the answer is yes, or no? whats best?
[03:02] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: i don't want dead stuff floating around
[03:03] <mikki> need some help with xgl, have installed it but cant se any cool effects :(
[03:03] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: i tried Sabayon, which as you know is Gentoo based. But aguess it aint Gentoo though, right?
[03:04] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  dead stuff.. vs stuff that tool may use for specific options... you decide beased on what you want.. pick no then.
[03:04] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: I have downloaded the Sabayon LiveCD. I haven't booted it (yet). So I have no experience with Sabayon :)
[03:04] <kaytek> Hi, i'm completly n00b. Can somebody tell me how modify /boot/grub/menu.lst ? It says that i don't have rights to modify this file.
[03:04] <Dr_willis> I just downloaded that livecd. :P
[03:05] <livingdaylight> kaytek: you have to be root when you modify
[03:05] <Cybertinus> kaytek: sudo <editor> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:05] <Dr_willis> kaytek,  sudo text-editor-that-youlike /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:05] <Dr_willis> kaytek,  backup that file first. Just in case
[03:05] <kaytek> Thanks.
[03:05] <Cybertinus> indeed, thats a good idea Dr_willis :)
[03:05] <kaytek> I'll try
[03:05] <mikki> !xgl
[03:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:06] <livingdaylight> sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst_backup
[03:06] <kaytek> thank you
[03:06] <_Caleb_> Cybertinus: saybayon use to be the rr4 cd and dvd that used gentoo
[03:06] <_Caleb_> so you know it already
[03:07] <Cybertinus> _Caleb_: what is rr4?
[03:07] <_Caleb_> gentoo livedvd and cd
[03:07] <_Caleb_> he changed the name to sabayon
[03:07] <Dr_willis> the download for SabayonLinux-x86-3.1-miniEdition.iso  just finished. :P
[03:08] <Cybertinus> _Caleb_: ah, k. Learned something today then :)
[03:09] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: then I think that Sabayon is as much of Gentoo, as Ubuntu is Debian :)
[03:10] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[03:10] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:10] <tarik> how can i instal tvcard ?
[03:10] <Dsbeerf> someone can take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26423/ and tell me what wrong mplayer is not in repos when i do apt-get install mplayer :(
[03:10] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: yea, i can see that. Sabayon is not stable, i can tell you that much. At least Opera just kept crashing
[03:10] <kaytek> Ubuntu should detect you tvcard automaticly
[03:10] <kaytek> *youur
[03:10] <kaytek> *your
[03:11] <tarik> but it didn't
[03:11] <saki> anyone know how to convert wma to mp3 in kubuntu?
[03:12] <kaytek> Ow, i've got one more problem. How to play music on kubuntu? System sounds works ok, but i can't play music...
[03:12] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: I try to boot Sabayon in VMWare now :) (but it failed and just booted the OS that is on the VMWare disk :S)
[03:12] <tarik> my tv card is v-stream tv878
[03:12] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: hehe...nice start!
[03:12] <kaytek> Maybe there's no drivers to your tvcard.
[03:12] <Cybertinus> kaytek: I had the same problem today too. AmaroK didn't play mp3's, XMMS did
[03:12] <larson9999> that's a  bttv
[03:13] <kaytek> I found something about that in google
[03:13] <tarik> larson:can you help me
[03:13] <tarik> i download tvtime,and oder programs
[03:13] <tarik> but nothing
[03:13] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: i hope you like lots of orange too! Actually, i had no issues installingt it. And i was even quite slick i thought, with the recent kde 3.5.5 i think, but yea...i dunno, prefer kubuntu :)
[03:13] <kaytek> it says, that i could download libaries by apt-get install blah blah :P
[03:14] <saki> kaytek: install the codecs
[03:14] <saki> just go get automatix and use it to install codecs
[03:14] <saki> they'll play
[03:14] <saki> :D'
[03:14] <kaytek> No...
[03:14] <kaytek> It's not that problem
[03:14] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: i hope you like Orange!
[03:15] <larson9999> tarik, well, i'm on windows now but if memeory serves me, i just downloaded a few tv viewers.  do an apt-cache search bttv and see what that turns up.  a google search of bttv and linux would do it too.
[03:15] <kaytek> I read that i need libaries
[03:15] <Dr_willis> kaytek,  what kind of music are you refering to?
[03:15] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: I know why Sabayon didn't boot: I told VMWare to use a .torrent file as a CD-drive, and not the Sabayon iso. For some strange reason that doesn't work :p. Trying to find The Sabayon .iso now :)
[03:15] <Dr_willis> for mp3 stuff theres different add on packages.. depending on the program you re playing with
[03:16] <Dr_willis> Cybertinus,  Hmm.. I cant get the iso to boot under vmware either.
[03:16] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: lol
[03:16] <kaytek> I'm playing mp3s on amaroK
[03:16] <Dr_willis> Cybertinus,  i got the mini iso..
[03:16] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[03:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:16] <kaytek> Ok, i found something
[03:16] <kaytek> I need... that: libxine-extracodecs + lame
[03:16] <tarik> thx larson
[03:17] <kaytek> from where i can download this?
[03:17] <Dr_willis> !info lame
[03:17] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[03:17] <kaytek> I know, what it is.
[03:17] <Dr_willis> set up the right repos.. and apt-get install them
[03:17] <kaytek> I tried
[03:17] <Dr_willis> note the    "In component multiverse, "
[03:17] <kaytek> It dosn't works
[03:17] <kaytek> doesn't*
[03:17] <Dr_willis> Then i am guesisng you did somthing wrong.
[03:18] <Dr_willis> could go to that easy repo site and let it set up yur apt sources list..
[03:18] <kaytek> No, it says, that libxine-extracodecs doesn't exist
[03:18] <Dr_willis> you DID 'sudo apt-get update'  after editing the sources list?
[03:18] <Dr_willis> !info libxine-extracodecs
[03:18] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[03:18] <Dr_willis> lets see
[03:18] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: oh, and no #Sabayon channel? :0
[03:19] <Dr_willis> kaytek,  double check your  sources.list , try the sudo apt-get update, apt-get upgrade stuff..  then try again.
[03:20] <kaytek> Ok, i'll try
[03:20] <livingdaylight> cpk2: hey, you still alive?
[03:20] <livingdaylight> ping cpk2
[03:20] <tarik> can someone help me,my system on tvcard is pal bg,but in tvtime i can chose just pal,pal60,pall...not pal b/g?
[03:21] <kaytek> Ok, nothing. I'll try do something by myself, thanks guys, especially Dr_willis. Bye.
[03:21] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: :)
[03:22] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me the command for finding the working version of, well, anything, java in my case
[03:22] <Dr_willis> java -version
[03:22] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: how do ya like it?
[03:22] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  clarify the problem. :) its a little.. vagie
[03:23] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: i want to know what my working version of java is. Yesterday i installed sun-java 1.5 but i had a 1.4 version running for some reason, which meant my browser wasn't configured with java
[03:23] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: no, I lost sabayon.iso :S. Gonna start the torrent again :)
[03:24] <livingdaylight> !paste
[03:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:24] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  java -version   - shows wht one is ran by default.. theres that update-alternatives command to change what default java binaries your system uses .
[03:24] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: see what i mean? output java -version http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26428/
[03:25] <_Caleb_> w00t
[03:25] <Lechero> where can i find the kubuntu calendar?
[03:25] <_Caleb_> got my resolution working
[03:25] <_Caleb_> yay
[03:25] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: yea, cpk2 gave it to me yesterday, but i need it again, coz i had to reinstall
[03:25] <Lechero> where can i find the kubuntu calendar for know when edgy will be released?
[03:25] <_Caleb_> 1280x800 w00t
[03:25] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  rember this --->  !java
[03:25] <Dr_willis> your problem is detailed tehre.
[03:26] <livingdaylight> where?
[03:26] <Dr_willis> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)       --> NOT the sun java
[03:26] <Dr_willis> !java
[03:26] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:26] <Dr_willis> rember this --->  !java  :)
[03:26] <Dr_willis> i never can rember the command either.
[03:26] <tarik> can someone help me,my system on tvcard is pal bg,but in tvtime i can chose just pal,pal60,pall...not pal b/g?
[03:26] <livingdaylight> it was a hell of a long command
[03:26] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  so? :)
[03:26] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: hmm. I try to add Sabayon in KTorrent, but he tells me I'm already uploading it :S. Where The HELL is that .iso file then? :S
[03:27] <livingdaylight> hehe
[03:27] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: and KTorrent is right, I already am uploading it, so the .iso file must be somewhere on my disk
[03:27] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: sorry, i'm the kubuntu little-brother noob :)
[03:27] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: lol
[03:28] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: hehe
[03:28] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: but i did install sun-java 1.5 - you do realize?
[03:30] <Dr_willis> but DID you update the alternatives?
[03:30] <Kokos> hi, anybody tell me, is there any website with a list of the most popular gl action games on linux? like chromium... gltron...
[03:31] <Dr_willis> Kokos,  the Linux Game Tome is nice to explore.
[03:31] <Dr_willis> but its all games
[03:31] <Kokos> oh... is there any ranking of hmm... most popular games?
[03:32] <Dr_willis> never noticed any.. how would you even get the rankings. :P
[03:33] <Dr_willis> Tremulus was fun for a while..  then theres a lot of other GPL'ed Quake3 source code spinnoffs comming out every month
[03:33] <Dr_willis> do those count? :)
[03:33] <Kokos> i saw this site... i cannot see any categories unfortunately..
[03:34] <Lechero> where can i find the kubuntu calendar for know when edgy will be released?
[03:34] <Dr_willis> !schedule
[03:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:35] <gnomefreak> Lechero: oct 26th i believe
[03:35] <Dr_willis> if the past is any indication.. it gets relased like on the same day.  I think thats what happened last time
[03:35] <Dr_willis> same day as ubuntu i mean
[03:37] <Lechero> gnomefreak: thanks
[03:37] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:39] <_thumper_> thanks to whomever update kde-latest :)
[03:39] <_thumper_> s/update/updated/
[03:41] <Cybertinus> livingdaylight: found Sabayon LiveCD. It was in ~/Screenshots for some reason :S :p
[03:43] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: thats what i used  - not the dvd version
[03:44] <flaccid_> is there #kubuntu-bitchaboutgirlfriends
[03:44] <flaccid_> i'd love if there was
[03:44] <_Caleb_> lol
[03:44] <livingdaylight> Cybertinus: apparently Sabayon is an Italian dessert.  LiveCD looks nice :)
[03:51] <tarik> how can i instal kernel
[03:51] <tarik> i have download it
[03:54] <tarik> i have a problem,
[03:54] <Sharketor> hello all
[03:55] <tarik> i am missing file /lib/modules... autoconf.h
[03:55] <Sharketor> someone knows a podcaster for kubuntu?
[03:55] <Dr_willis> tarik,  we may ask What exactly are you trying to do?
[03:55] <flaccid_> _Caleb_: yeah its a catch 222 like life is
[03:57] <Sharketor> a podcaster????
[03:57] <CVirus> I need another way to download partial pieces of a torrent other than Ktorrent ... as its crashing
[03:58] <flaccid_> !azureus
[03:58] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[03:58] <_Caleb_> use rtorrent
[03:58] <_Caleb_> !rtorrent
[03:58] <ubotu> rtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4.2-1 (dapper), package size 152 kB, installed size 448 kB
[03:58] <Dr_willis> wine utorrent.exe
[03:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:58] <thelostbyte_> Know a good blog system, out there ?
[03:59] <flaccid_> !wordpress
[03:59] <ubotu> wordpress: an award winning weblog manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2 (dapper), package size 490 kB, installed size 2792 kB
[03:59] <thelostbyte_> flaccid_, thankz
[03:59] <jose> hi
[03:59] <flaccid_> np
[04:02] <tarikb> i have a problem,
[04:02] <tarikb> i am missing file /lib/modules... autoconf.h
[04:06] <lestat> heloo
[04:06] <lestat> jest ktos mowiacy po polskiemu? :)
[04:07] <lestat> jesli ktokolwiek rozumie co mowie to prosze o kontakt
[04:07] <v3ctor> !pl
[04:07] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:07] <lestat> dzieki
[04:11] <rcurtis> quick question about printer setup in Kubunu Dapper - this box was upgraded from Breezy
[04:11] <red_> How do I edit the GRUB menu
[04:12] <pakair> see /etc/grub/grub.conf
[04:12] <rcurtis> when I open the System Settings->Printers and select Add Printer/Class - Network Printer is grayed out
[04:13] <rcurtis> this used to be available in Breezy and is available in Edgy (I believe) - any ideas why my setup doesnt have it?
[04:17] <larson999> catching up on my rss feeds from last week.  funny how they all say the google buying youtube will never happen and the story is a fake
[04:21] <slow-motion> re
[04:22] <gupta> how can I know whether Kdm vis using/calling the ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession file?
[04:22] <rafa> #kubuntu-es
[04:29] <omar> H guys, I am trying to mount a folder from other kubuntu, I don't have any trouble with windows, I use : sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/home/ronny/ronnyfiles  /media/hd4/evol -o urd=omar, but it's not working  for another linux, what should I change in the line
[04:30] <flaccid> did you try smbfs instead of cifs, omar?
[04:31] <omar> flaccid yes I tried , but I get this Error connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> (Connection refused)
[04:33] <letmagnau> hi
[04:34] <letmagnau> can anyone help me with ktraslator?
[04:34] <gupta> !xsession
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xsession - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <gupta> !.xsession
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xsession - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <letmagnau> can anyone help me with ktraslator?
[04:36] <omar> H guys, I am trying to mount a folder from other kubuntu, I don't have any trouble with windows, I use : sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/home/ronny/ronnyfiles  /media/hd4/evol -o urd=omar, but it's not working  for another linux, what should I change in the line
[04:38] <v3ctor> s/urd=omar/uid=omar/
[04:39] <omar> v3ctor: did get you? what's that?
[04:41] <v3ctor> did you use urd or uid?
[04:42] <omar> v3ctor: this is what I am doing "sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/home/ronny/ronnyfiles  /media/hd4/evol -o urd=omar"
[04:42] <v3ctor> urd is invalid option
[04:42] <v3ctor> it should be uid
[04:43] <omar> v3ctor: I got mount error 111 =" Connection refused" and "Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)" with uid
[04:43] <danny500> hey V3ctor whats up
[04:44] <v3ctor> hi danny500
[04:45] <danny500> how you doing?
[04:45] <v3ctor> good
[04:45] <v3ctor> u?
[04:45] <danny500> same here
[04:46] <omar> ubotu: I am trying to share a Linux folder not a windows
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I am trying to share a Linux folder not a windows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <danny500> do you know were I would find the passwords file for aMSN
[04:47] <omar> v3ctor: I am trying to share a linux folder not a windows one
[04:47] <danny500> whats your prob?
[04:47] <v3ctor> don't use amsn...sorry
[04:47] <danny500> omar
[04:47] <danny500> o ok
[04:48] <danny500> omar, what your prob again?
[04:49] <danny500> omar
[04:49] <danny500> omar
[04:49] <danny500> omar
[04:49] <danny500> omar
[04:49] <danny500> omar
[04:49] <danny500> omar
[04:49] <v3ctor> lol
[04:49] <danny500> omar
[04:49] <v3ctor> give him a sec
[04:49] <danny500> ok
[04:49] <danny500> lol
[04:49] <danny500> lol
[04:49] <danny500> lol
[04:49] <danny500> lol
[04:49] <danny500> jk
[04:49] <danny500> oooooooommmaaaaaaarrrrrrrr
[04:49] <omar> danny500 I am trying to share folders from linux to linux
[04:50] <danny500> what are you using to do that with?
[04:50] <danny500> Network connection?
[04:50] <omar> danny500 yes network
[04:50] <jam603> Is the proper place to ask a Kubuntu question?
[04:50] <danny500> yes
[04:50] <omar> danny500 sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/home/ronny/ronnyfiles  /media/hd4/evol -o uid=omar
[04:51] <Chadwick|359> Any way to refresh the program cache in Katapult without restarting kde?
[04:51] <v3ctor> this is the place to ask a proper kubuntu question
[04:51] <danny500> on the system tray, go to "system" then "Prefrences" then click on "Remote Desktop" ok omar
[04:51] <jam603> Thank you, my question is this, is there a reason that
[04:51] <felixjet> omar: udo mount -t cifs -o uid=omar //<IP_ADDRESS>/home/ronny/ronnyfiles /media/hd4/evol
[04:51] <felixjet> but i dont know if it works like that
[04:52] <felixjet> i use it to my ntfs partition
[04:52] <jam603> sorry
[04:52] <felixjet> for net i use samba
[04:52] <danny500> yeah , I use samba to
[04:52] <v3ctor> jam603: just jump in..no aplogies needed
[04:52] <jam603> is there a reason that kpilot is not installed by default in kubuntu 6.06.01?
[04:52] <v3ctor> apology*
[04:53] <fildo> !java
[04:53] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:53] <omar> danny500 I am there
[04:53] <felixjet> omar: go to system:/remote and click on add net directory
[04:53] <felixjet> put "system:/remote" on alt+f2 menu
[04:53] <jam603> and why can't I install it from adept?  It's greyed out...
[04:53] <danny500> ok, omar, hold on
[04:54] <v3ctor> jam603: seems to be on mine
[04:54] <_Caleb_> hmmm
[04:54] <danny500> nm that won't work omar
[04:54] <_Caleb_> easiest way to play dvd's
[04:54] <_Caleb_> kaffeince wont play cause its copyrighted
[04:54] <_Caleb_> or whatever
[04:54] <danny500> go to your shared folders setup
[04:55] <danny500> omar
[04:55] <omar> danny500 yes I am here
[04:55] <felixjet> omar: do, it
[04:55] <felixjet> put "system:/remote" on alt+f2 menu
[04:55] <danny500> click on one of them and edit the properties.
[04:55] <omar> danny500 yes I am there already
[04:55] <felixjet> lmao
[04:56] <jam603> v3ctor: could I have messed somethinf up in the installation?
[04:56] <danny500> tell it to share with smb
[04:56] <danny500> it should then install samba and it should work for you
[04:56] <omar> danny500 I installed samba yesterday
[04:56] <v3ctor> jam603: i doubt it
[04:56] <danny500> omar, whats your vncviewer address?
[04:56] <v3ctor> jam603: open up konsole
[04:57] <jam603> v3ctor: it's open
[04:57] <v3ctor> sudo aptitude update
[04:57] <danny500> omar, whats your vncviewr address?
[04:57] <v3ctor> aptitude search kpilot
[04:58] <omar> danny500 look I have two machines here, both with kubuntu , those are connected to my modem, so they are in the network, the Ip of the other one is <IP_ADDRESS>, I want to share one folder
[04:58] <v3ctor> _Caleb_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9
[04:59] <ypsila> hello
[04:59] <jam603> v3ctor: updates are all done, then the aptitude search kpilot command returns nothing
[04:59] <v3ctor> you must be missing a repo
[04:59] <jam603> ok
[04:59] <v3ctor> 1 sec
[05:00] <_Caleb_> thanks v3ctor
[05:01] <v3ctor> _Caleb_: np
[05:01] <danny500> well then omar, I don't think i can help you sorry
[05:01] <danny500> sorry bud
[05:01] <jam603> Nickerson
[05:02] <jam603> wrong screen
[05:04] <rafa> #kubuntu-es
[05:05] <v3ctor> jam603: make sure you have universe repo
[05:06] <jam603> I'm unfamiliar with that, sorry...  Is there something I can read to show me how to verify that I have it?
[05:07] <v3ctor> !repos
[05:07] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:09] <thompa> can someone help me with boot errors 18, 16 on sata?
[05:10] <livingdaylight> is there a consensus on what is best for multimedia. Its confusing me. gstreamer is for totem? but we don't use totem in kubuntu. I like Kaffeine, what would the proprietary codecs i need for that?
[05:10] <thompa> also on repower it booted into kubuntu without asking me for login
[05:11] <jam603> v3ctor: that helps.  I'll try it on my own from here.  Thank you for your help.  This is easlily one of the nicest distrobutions I have EVER used.
[05:11] <v3ctor> good luck
[05:12] <thompa> how can i reinstall grub so it goes to the other hard drive?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> edit the menu.lst and rerun update-grub is one way
[05:13] <Dr_willis> but that wont remove the bootloader off the first hard drive
[05:13] <thompa> Dr_willis: ya, im totally lost as to what the problem is
[05:13] <livingdaylight> why are root priviledges requred to change screen resolution? Surely, any user is entitled to change that according to their need?!
[05:13] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  i can change them on the fly as a user.
[05:13] <mooey> hi. i'm trying to fix a bug which addresses some default browser issues. does kde have an equivalent of gnome-open / gnome-www-browser?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> its a X configuration issue/option.
[05:14] <thompa> Dr_willis: my ide drive boots fine , using the sata gives me tons of errors
[05:14] <Dr_willis> thompa,  what sort of errors?
[05:14] <thompa> if i could narrow this down is all, error  16, 18 grub errors
[05:15] <thompa> on 2nd repower i saw system unstable then it booted into kubuntu without asking for login
[05:15] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: well, i can't change them anywhich way :(
[05:15] <thompa> checking dmesg right now
[05:16] <Dr_willis> thompa,  odd..
[05:16] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  i forget the option needed to mess with them. xrandr perhaps..  livingdaylight  what video card do you have?
[05:16] <thompa> hp box, the sata cmae with it, i just did a bios update so its not that
[05:17] <thompa> i think its the motherboard sata controller possible
[05:17] <Dr_willis> thompa,  i had issued with ubuntu on my sata drive.. grub was geting the drives out of order. I had to  edi the /boot/grub/device.map
[05:17] <thompa> im getting this across distros
[05:17] <Dr_willis> thompa,  that does sound like a mb/driver/quirk
[05:18] <v3ctor> thompa: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml
[05:18] <thompa> ive installed them in different orders, now the IDE boots first and gives me grub, I installed kubuntu on the sata
[05:18] <thompa> so i guess it wrote to the other drive
[05:19] <thompa> v3ctor: thanks, ive gone through the error guide
[05:19] <thompa> creating a /boot does not help either
[05:19] <v3ctor> thompa: it describes mapping your disks in a different order
[05:19] <thompa> all i can do is install onto IDE with sata controller disabled, then use the sata as storage after install
[05:20] <thompa> v3ctor: ok ill look again
[05:20] <Dr_willis> thompa,  you are just wanting grub to  install to hda?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> Usage: grub-install [OPTION]  install_device
[05:20] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: by video card you mean graphics card? That would be nvidia 6600Gt (agp)
[05:21] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  you installed the nvidia drivers for it yet? Im using a Nvidia 6800
[05:21] <fabio> oi
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Oi Vey?
[05:22] <thompa> v3ctor: ive had miost of these errors, and Ive had different map situations on grub
[05:22] <scott_> does anyone know how to intall macromedia flash player?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !flash
[05:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:23] <thompa> i thought if grub is on the IDE now the sata should boot, hence I installed on sata last
[05:23] <thompa> so the mapping is correct for me
[05:23] <thompa> maybe hard drive is bad
[05:23] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: i installed nvidia-glx, is that the one you mean?
[05:24] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: Congrats on the Nvidia 6800!
[05:24] <thompa> i also got a white line going across screen on boot, if its off long time overnight or colsd problem is worse
[05:24] <fabio> alguem pode dizer algo?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  heck its an old card.. it sales for about $140 now a days.
[05:25] <Dr_willis> I paid like $400 when it first cam eout.
[05:25] <thompa> Dr_willis: im going to try a boot loader other than grub maybe that helps
[05:25] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  let me check my xorg.conf settings.
[05:26] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: hey, thats alot of money to me. I had to break the bank to pay for the 6600Gt
[05:26] <Dr_willis> thompa,  its possible grub is not seeing the drive.. ya could try the grub shell and see.
[05:26] <thompa> whats that?
[05:27] <thompa> Dr_willis: how do i get into grub shell?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. hit c for the command line i think
[05:27] <Dr_willis> grub is one of those things that has  a LOT of features and docs.. :P
[05:27] <Dr_willis> I spent a day reading them all and learning it.. but that was 5 mo ago. :)
[05:28] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  check your xorg.conf and be sure you got the various res's listed that the system can do.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x640" "640x480"
[05:28] <Dr_willis> is my systems info
[05:28] <omar> pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, I wanna share a folder kubuntu-kubuntu, that's it, I have samba already
[05:29] <Dr_willis> omar,  you dont need samba for a linux to linux system,
[05:29] <thompa>  ata1: SATA link down (SStatus 0) is that bad
[05:29] <Dr_willis> you can copy things over with ssh if you wanted
[05:29] <thompa> i got all sorts of sata lines in dmesg
[05:30] <Dr_willis> You can use the fish kioslave like this: fish://hostname or fish://username@hostname.    - as a Konqueror address will let you access the other box IF ssh is installed.
[05:30] <TheGateKeeper> omar system settings -> Internet & Networking --> Sharing
[05:30] <Dr_willis> thompa,  its possible that sata controler has no drivers, or flakey drivers
[05:30] <ypsila> Dr_willis: we failed exactly with the same problem
[05:30] <thompa> probably so
[05:32] <thompa> Dr_willis: i can only find out by putting another sata hard drive in, that would tell. If thats the case I can use this as storage. I see no difference between IDE and sata anyway
[05:32] <ypsila> Dr_willis: and fish didn't wok
[05:32] <livingdaylight> !paste
[05:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:33] <thompa> too bad cause the sata came with this box and my ide is only 150G
[05:33] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: they're all there. Check for yourself: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26450/ Still have the generic 'nv' driver though
[05:34] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: you're name wouldn't be Bruce by any chance?
[05:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hello? i would like to publish my contacts online on a LDAP server in such a way that a sync with my cellphone will be possible too.. do you know any website that offer free LDAP service for this purpose?
[05:34] <thompa> it works in windows fine so its probably meant so
[05:34] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  using 'nv' means you are not using the nvidia drivbers.. so that may be the whole issue
[05:35] <omar> TheGateKeeper I can see the share folders, that's nice, but the NFS option is disable, and I can't figure it out how to enable it
[05:35] <Dr_willis> !nfs
[05:35] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Install the nfs server and other tools
[05:36] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: no, because yesterday, i was able to change screen resolution as is. Infact i was delighted because over at Ubuntu that had always been an issue. However, while trying to enable nvidia-glx and Ctr+alt+backspacing my system crashed. Today i did a fresh install just to be safe but now i can't change resolution :s
[05:37] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  if your driver line is set to 'nv' then you are not using the 'nvidia' drivers.. so i dont know what else to tell you.
[05:38] <livingdaylight> I have another question guys: when i do sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf or whatever /etc/apt/sources.list i get this error:
[05:38] <livingdaylight> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26451/
[05:39] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: i'm just saying that i was able to change resolution yesterday with my xorg set at 'nv' so i don't believe the drivers are necessary
[05:39] <Dr_willis>  X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166          --------- Is due to the wacom tablet entry in the xorg.conf
[05:39] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: having said that should i just change the driver line from 'nv' to 'nvidia' ?
[05:39] <TheGateKeeper> omar install it, then go back to that gui interface I am sure it nfs too
[05:40] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  try it and see.
[05:40] <Dr_willis> When installing the various ati and nvidia drivers. i often have to set/change the res after installing them.. and ive used the  GUI tools to set the default res.
[05:40] <TheGateKeeper> omar if you are only moving small amounts of info then it doesn't really matter which you use
[05:40] <livingdaylight>  I have another question guys: when i do sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf or whatever /etc/apt/sources.list i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26451/
[05:41] <mendred> livingdaylight: use kdesu instead of sudo or use sux (if u have enabled a root account) and then run ur program
[05:41] <gemidjy> I installed kde 3.5.5 yesterday from Jonatan's repos, but they s*rewed my environment, so I want to get back to the previous installation, but I wouldn't reinstall kde by removing each kde 3.5.5 package separetly, any smarter idea?
[05:41] <Dr_willis>  Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server      - sounds like you dont have  roor permissions to access the display.
[05:41] <Dr_willis> yes.. use kdesu or sux is the best way
[05:41] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: Run Command... kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:43] <mendred> hmmm kde 3.5.5+beryl on this old laptop works like a charm..feels like i got a new machine :)
[05:43] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: that works nicely, thank you!!!
[05:43] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: if you are using the cli then use a cli editor eg. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:43] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: :-)
[05:44] <arunkale> Hey guys.. how do I play m4a files?
[05:44] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: i dont get it. Sometimes sudo is alright? and other times i have to kdesu?
[05:44] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: kdesu for gui apps, sudo for cli apps
[05:44] <livingdaylight> mendred: sux? :s but thanx
[05:45] <mendred> livingdaylight: lol see sux means su + x
[05:45] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: ok, i can try and remember that distinction
[05:45] <Dr_willis> i tend to use 'sux'  :)
[05:45] <ypsila> good bye
[05:45] <Dr_willis> !info sux
[05:45] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: kate is gui so use kdesu, nano is cli so use sudo
[05:45] <livingdaylight> mendred: LOL
[05:45] <ubotu> sux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional.  I just switched from XP to Kubuntu, just installed, and I think I overestimated myself. Linux is too advanced for me, I'm not even able to mount my harddrive number 2
[05:54] <arunkale> roman
[05:55] <arunkale> whats up
[05:55] <roman> I have some vital files there so can anyone help me mount it? Its formated in NTFS
[05:55] <roman> ey arunkale
[05:55] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[05:55] <roman> its frustrating, because I thought this would be easy, point and click easy
[05:55] <arunkale> check out that link
[05:55] <Dr_willis> It is rather trivial.
[05:55] <roman> i will
[05:55] <Dr_willis> depends on what you want do. :P
[05:56] <livingdaylight> do i need PLF for w32codecs and soforth?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> my fstab entry  for my NTFS drive -->  /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:57] <arunkale> what's PLF?
[05:57] <roman> can't you just download something that makes the changes for you? That mounts the drives you need
[05:57] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: hang on...
[05:58] <Dr_willis> roman,  put forth a little effort man.
[05:58] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight:
[05:58] <TheGateKeeper> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[05:58] <TheGateKeeper> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[05:58] <Dr_willis> I could of edited the fstab in the time it took you to even TYPE that line.
[05:58] <roman> I don't have to inxp
[05:58] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: oh, you diamond geezer!
[05:59] <arunkale> roman, as a fellow xp user, trust me.. kubuntu is the shit.. xp is bleh compared to kubuntu
[05:59] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes <--- you forgot to bookmark this
[05:59] <arunkale> roman: and you can point and click for most things
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Its just harder to describe   click over here... then use that tab.. then below set this.. and that...
[05:59] <roman> well I just want my disk to work
[06:00] <Dr_willis> while 'edit the fstab' and put in a line like-->  /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[06:00] <Dr_willis> is rather easy.
[06:00] <roman> well where do I write in the command you gave me Dr?
[06:00] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: actually, its not that! i did bookmark it yesterday, but just had to do a fresh installation ALL over again today of Kubuntu :(
[06:00] <Dr_willis> edit the /etc/fstab file.. look at the entrys.. MOST likely you just neeed the umask=007 option .
[06:00] <arunkale> if adept is currently updating konversation, does that mean i need to close konversation and wait for it to get updated?
[06:01] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  that may be a good idea.
[06:01] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: use firefox and a bookmark sync will make life easier
[06:01] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  it may work fine.. :) but still its better safe then sorry
[06:01] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: is there a sudo involved with that wget -c ?
[06:02] <TheGateKeeper> possible use sudo if the command does work as is
[06:02] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: I'm enjoying Konqueror though :) All those years of Firefox, i'm quite liking the change
[06:02] <arunkale> Dr_willis: thanks
[06:02] <TheGateKeeper> apt-get install firefox :-)
[06:02] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: doesn't?
[06:03] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: actually, i might aswell admit i used Opera since it became freely available, shhhh....
[06:03] <roman> I don't see NTFS when I type in: cat /proc/filesystems
[06:03] <TheGateKeeper> you got the wget command to work?
[06:04] <roman> I don't even know what the fuck im lookin at
[06:04] <trappist> roman: language please.
[06:04] <roman> just frustrated
[06:04] <roman> i feel tricked, this was supposed to be easy
[06:05] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: oh, yea thats done, thx hombre
[06:05] <roman> I just want to acsess my extra hard drive, is that to much to ask for?
[06:05] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: excellent :-)
[06:05] <roman> Is there a simpler linux edition than kubuntu?
[06:05] <andersen-hc> what have you tried so far, roman
[06:05] <andersen-hc> yes
[06:05] <roman> what?
[06:05] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: debianmultimedia.org huh? .... : )
[06:05] <andersen-hc> opensuse livecd would work great
[06:05] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: you could use the plf repos but that is easier & quicker
[06:05] <andersen-hc> it would mount your local home directory and your ntfs drive
[06:06] <roman> is there anything as simple as Windows XP?
[06:06] <andersen-hc> and then you can just copy it over
[06:06] <Dr_willis> or learning how the fstab and mounting system works.. is rather handy..
[06:06] <andersen-hc> yes, opensuse is as easy
[06:06] <roman> what is fstab?
[06:06] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: yep it's the debian w32codecs but will work fine
[06:06] <roman> can u send me an link andersen?
[06:06] <andersen-hc> fstab is a file that contains what drives to mount when it boots
[06:06] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: easier & quicker if you knew that long website command... Just wondering if there are others from teh PLF i would have needed?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> that ntfs urli posted  explained it.. its  the file that tells what drives are mounted where
[06:06] <andersen-hc> here you go -> http://en.opensuse.org/Live_CD
[06:07] <andersen-hc> oh wait, one sec
[06:08] <TheGateKeeper> well I use amarok for mp3 xine engine, libxine-extracodecs & w32codec & so far I have never needed anything else
[06:08] <TheGateKeeper> !libxine-extracodecs
[06:08] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[06:08] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: ^^^^^
[06:09] <Dr_willis> i wonder if edgy will fix that 'ntfs drives only readable by root' issue..or if they consider that a feature
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[06:10] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: yea, i had that one already ^^
[06:10] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: :-)
[06:10] <blackslash> First time useing linux, trying to install nvidia drivers. Q: How can i find out if i got binutils?
[06:10] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: i think i'm good now, just wondering why Kaffeine wasn't there, hmmmm....
[06:10] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: using ntfs-3g?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  i tested out the FUSE ntfs stuff last night. it worked..
[06:11] <TheGateKeeper> ahhh
[06:11] <andersen-hc> kjsdkfjhlkjsdhf
[06:11] <Dr_willis> but the fact that the default ubuntu setup lets just root READ the ntfs drives.. is a bit of a common "faq"
[06:11] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: lol, that was strange
[06:11] <andersen-hc> bloody suse
[06:11] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: it s alrady installed
[06:11] <andersen-hc> why did they get rid of the livecd
[06:11] <Dr_willis> everyone seems to want the users to read the ntfs drives. :)
[06:11] <DoLe> my gnome login window scrolls
[06:11] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: but i did sudo apt-get install kaffeine and it said it wasn't there - but i can relax now :)
[06:11] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: :-)
[06:12] <livingdaylight> ^^
[06:12] <andersen-hc> _OK_
[06:12] <TheGateKeeper> I seen
[06:12] <andersen-hc> heresa the opensuse livecd
[06:12] <andersen-hc> although its actually a DVD
[06:12] <andersen-hc> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/non-oss-dvd-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-LiveDVD.iso
[06:12] <Dr_willis> !fuse
[06:12] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:13] <DoLe> my gnome login window scrolls.someone please help me.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> you mean it has a 'virtual display' larger then the monitor. and thus scrolls left/right/up/down?
[06:14] <DoLe> yes
[06:14] <DoLe> should i set it to required resolution
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Thats rather odd..   yea.. but not sure why its using the wrong res
[06:14] <Dr_willis> your desktop dont have the same problem?
[06:15] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: do you use this to install updates: --> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:15] <DoLe> no.its fine.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> !upgrade
[06:15] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:15] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get update    && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:15] <Dr_willis> dist-upgrade is the 'hardcore' upgrade. :P
[06:15] <Dr_willis> I only use that when things seem weird.
[06:16] <DoLe> everything is uo to date.
[06:16] <Dr_willis> lets see.. to mount a ntfs drive.. in the users home dir...
[06:16] <Dr_willis> sudo mkdir NTFS_HERE
[06:16] <Dr_willis> sudo  mount  /dev/hda1 NTFS_HERE  -o umask=0007
[06:16] <Dr_willis> i THink - will work. :)
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Nope.. Hmm permission denied..
[06:17] <blackslash> i just mounted in my home, now i cant open  the dir >.<
[06:18] <Dr_willis> sudo  mount  /dev/hda1 NTFS_HERE  -o umask=0007,gid=46
[06:18] <Dr_willis> there we go.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> Now where did that gid=46 come from...
[06:19] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: so if I did sudo aptitude update  && sudo aptitude upgrade that would allow to install a previous version of something if they let something out that was broken?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> in /etc/groups --> plugdev:x:46:haldaemon,willis
[06:19] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  ive never had that issue..so not sure.
[06:20] <vortex_> hi all
[06:20] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: apt-get doesn't support downgrading. if that's your question.
[06:20] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: you'll have to do it manually.
[06:20] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: ok thanx it's just that I know they have screwed up with their updates on odd occasions
[06:21] <DoLe> Dr_willis thanks. Changing virtual mode fixed the scrolling.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> DoLe,  :)
[06:22] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: won't this --> sudo aptitude update  && sudo aptitude upgrade  give me the chance to uninstall the new update and reinstall the old one?
[06:22] <vortex_> I have problem with my webcam in kubuntu it look like is still on but I don't know how cen I use it!!!
[06:22] <Dr_willis> DoLe,  if using Kubuntu a lot - you proberly want to use KDM for the login manager
[06:22] <vortex_> someone can help me?
[06:22] <DoLe> KDE kept crashing so I had to switch to gnome
[06:22] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: aptitude might give you that as a proposed solution, i'm not sure. not an aptitude expert.
[06:23] <webpower_> hi all
[06:23] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: ok thanx
[06:23] <webpower_> to make safety remove of pen drive from shell, how can i do?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> umount /media/whereitsmountedto
[06:25] <Dr_willis> sudo umount /media/whereitsmountedto
[06:25] <webpower_> Dr_willis: umount doesn't drop energy
[06:25] <Dr_willis> if you MUST just unplug the thing.. err...
[06:25] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: apt-get seems to wounderfull at installing including all the dependencies, but not much good at removing depencencies when you uninstall, always seem to be left with a load of stuff you don't want
[06:25] <arunkale> Is there any OS X like skin for Kubuntu that's better than Baghira?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> sync - flush file system buffers
[06:25] <Dr_willis> run sync a few times to force the buffers to flus and get wrote to disk
[06:26] <webpower_> Dr_willis: are you talking with me?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  i often ask my self -  how can a multibillion doller company like OS-X make such a ugly gui. :)
[06:26] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  yep
[06:26] <arunkale> Dr_willis: Ugly?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> sync a few times (2-3) then unplug IF you must..
[06:26] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  very nasty ugly i think.
[06:26] <arunkale> heh
[06:26] <Dr_willis> almost as ugly as that Brushed Metal stuff they were using
[06:27] <arunkale> A lot of people seem to buy Apple computers only because of the GUI
[06:27] <Dr_willis> a Lot of people are total Idiots. :)
[06:27] <webpower_> Dr_willis: how can I know if after 2-3 secs, all data are writed on pen drive?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  sync a few times.. then it should be writtenb
[06:27] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  what does the umount command tell you anyway?
[06:27] <webpower_> ok
[06:27] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  'mount' will show whats mounted where...
[06:28] <webpower_> umount doesn't drop alimenting pen drive
[06:28] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  i dont know what you mean by 'drop'
[06:28] <Dr_willis> or alimenting. :)
[06:30] <arunkale> Dr_willis: Any browser better than Firefox for Kubuntu?
[06:30] <webpower_> using umount, pen is unmounted but elettric energy is still continuing
[06:30] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  i find Firefox to be the best...  :)
[06:30] <webpower_> using umount, led on pen drive is on
[06:30] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  if its unmounted... unplug it..
[06:31] <webpower_> using "safety remove" led is off
[06:31] <Dr_willis> my usb thing has a pwoer led.. and a flashing writeing led.
[06:31] <webpower_> I wont to set led off from shell
[06:31] <Dr_willis> saftey remove?
[06:31] <Dr_willis> you mean that  windows xp thing that no one uses? :)
[06:31] <webpower_> no
[06:31] <webpower_> also kubuntu has safety remove
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. never seen that. :P lets try
[06:32] <mendred> webpower_: use that :)
[06:32] <webpower_> try tu plug pen drive and right click
[06:32] <webpower_> on pen drive device
[06:32] <webpower_> now you can see "safety remove"
[06:32] <webpower_> if you use it, pen led gets off
[06:33] <webpower_> if you only unmount it
[06:33] <webpower_> ledi continue to be on
[06:33] <livingdaylight> what are the msttffonts called exactly?
[06:33] <livingdaylight> you know the ones i mean?
[06:34] <_Shade_> hi there
[06:34] <Dr_willis> 'safely remove' = 'nice term for unmount the drive'
[06:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:35] <_Shade_> i've just installed kubuntu edgy. Well i have to say it rocks :)
[06:35] <webpower_> Dr_willis: listen me
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Userfriendlyness causing more  problems heh
[06:35] <webpower_> try to do "safety remove"
[06:35] <livingdaylight> _Shade_: woah! can you say more?
[06:35] <webpower_> as you can see, led of pen drive is off
[06:35] <mendred> Dr_willis: safely remove seems to switch of the power of a usb stick..the led goes off
[06:35] <livingdaylight> anyone tell me what the ttf fonts are called. You know the microsoft ones?
[06:35] <mendred> umount doesn't
[06:35] <livingdaylight> comic sans etc
[06:35] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: what do you want to know then?
[06:35] <webpower_> if you use: umont, led is on
[06:36] <mendred> i am not sure what it does extra though
[06:36] <livingdaylight> _Shade_: about kubuntu?
[06:36] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: yeah
[06:36] <uwo> hi all. i lost the "quick search" field (google, wikipedia....) in the location toolbar of konqueror... does anyone know how exactly this field is called and where to turn it on?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Now ya did it - kde crashed. :)
[06:36] <livingdaylight> _Shade_: how exactly is it rocking? Kubuntu/Dapper still Rocks too :) Installed it for the first time yesterday :)
[06:37] <webpower_> Dr_willis: have you tried?
[06:37] <arunkale> i'm waiting for Edgy
[06:37] <arunkale> should be awesome
[06:37] <mendred> uwo: konqueror settings>configure extensions extensions tab
[06:37] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  the usb thang just crashed kde on me.  I don't like the default wallpaper though ;D
[06:38] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: you're right
[06:38] <livingdaylight> htraki: Edgy is more thanjust updated packages no?
[06:38] <livingdaylight> _Shade_: i can tell you how to change the wallpaper ...hehe
[06:38] <htraki> I dont know I did not try it yet
[06:39] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: they've updated the system-settings applet too, so it's more convenient to use now
[06:39] <htraki> Well I then think yes
[06:39] <livingdaylight> _Shade_: oh, good, coz that was buggy as hell
[06:39] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: i already did it :)
[06:39] <htraki> but edgy is still beta
[06:39] <livingdaylight> What i wanna know is onboot up does it say Kubuntu or Ubuntu still?
[06:39] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: you mean the system-settings stuff ?
[06:39] <Dr_willis> beta for a few more days :)
[06:40] <webpower_> Dr_willis: how can I know the command associated to "safety remove" ?
[06:40] <livingdaylight> _Shade_: yea
[06:40] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  as far as i can tell its just running umount.. if the device is umounted.. the system is no longer accessing it..
[06:40] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: it says "Kubuntu" oh btw they added a new usplash theme
[06:40] <felixjet> anyone knows a good download manager ?
[06:40] <arunkale> htraki: edgy releases on the 26th
[06:40] <Dr_willis> Unless ya got some really weird device. I got 4 usb things here.. and they all got 1 led. and its always on when i plug them in.
[06:40] <htraki> arunkale: d4x
[06:40] <miguel> esto es en espaol?
[06:41] <felixjet> miguel #kubuntu-es
[06:41] <arunkale> d4x?
[06:41] <livingdaylight> !es
[06:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:41] <htraki> downloader 4 X
[06:41] <webpower_> is not really that safety remove just unmonts it
[06:41] <livingdaylight> miguel: vale?
[06:41] <htraki> uses gtk+ 2.x
[06:41] <arunkale> i didnt want the downloader software man
[06:41] <miguel> gracias
[06:41] <arunkale> felixjet wanted it
[06:41] <htraki> just a plugin?
[06:41] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: i'm just doing an update... and I will have a brand new kde in a minute :)
[06:41] <webpower_> as you can see on right click, of pen drive there are both safety remove and unmount
[06:41] <B-Minus> hey all good evening
[06:42] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  prove otherwise.. i cant find any  info on it one way or another.  for years..  i plug in a usb thing.. mount it.. write to it.. umount it.. wait a few sec.. then remove it.
[06:42] <felixjet> downloader 4x and d4x ?
[06:42] <livingdaylight> What i could not understand is when you boot up and grub gives you the kernels it says Ubuntu whether you have Ubuntu installed or Kubuntu. Now if you have both Ubuntu and Kubuntu installed that canbe confusing!
[06:42] <Dr_willis> webpower_,   could go ask the #kde guys what it does differently
[06:42] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: well.... several minutes maybe :D
[06:42] <livingdaylight> hehe
[06:42] <felixjet> !d4x
[06:42] <htraki> felixjet: d4x and downloader 4 X it is same sw
[06:42] <ubotu> d4x: graphical download manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.6-2 (dapper), package size 656 kB, installed size 1920 kB
[06:42] <apokryphos> Dr_willis: what's the issue?
[06:42] <felixjet> xD
[06:42] <livingdaylight> in the meantime, can someone tell me what the ms fonts are called, please?
[06:42] <apokryphos> webpower_:  what's the issue?
[06:42] <felixjet> ty htraki
[06:42] <livingdaylight> coremsttfonts or something
[06:42] <_Shade_> talking about kde... what's katapult actually?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> apokryphos,  whts the differeance btween 'safely remove' and 'umount' on a usb device iconon the desktop.
[06:42] <apokryphos> _Shade_: /msg ubotu katapult
[06:43] <apokryphos> Dr_willis: safely remove executes eject, too, I believe.
[06:43] <Dr_willis> apokryphos,  heh - that makes a LITTLE bit of sence I guess
[06:43] <Dr_willis> with that logic.. the CDROM drive should say safely remove then.
[06:43] <B-Minus> hey
[06:43] <webpower_> apokryphos: read :)
[06:43] <B-Minus> what is katapult it doesnt do anything here
[06:43] <B-Minus> it shows a pic of a katapult :p
[06:43] <Dr_willis> lets see what it says.  What it's called? Perhaps msttcorefonts
[06:45] <Dr_willis> I got the KDE mountign system all messed up now. :P its taking 4 min to even see a usb thing when i plug it in
[06:45] <apokryphos> :O
[06:45] <Dr_willis> i rember why i never use the auto-mounting features now
[06:45] <apokryphos> well, the automounting in kde is done with a combination of HAL and DBUS, if there's a problem it's likely with one of those
[06:45] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: thx,buddy, i knew i was close, but synaptic's got to know exactly, and won't guess what i mean
[06:46] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: apt-cache search helps at times like this; i.e. apt-cache search font|grep ms
[06:46] <_Shade_> livingdaylight: you could check the "search in description" bos
[06:46] <webpower_> apokryphos: have you understood the problem?
[06:46] <_Shade_> box
[06:46] <apokryphos> webpower_: what's your problem?
[06:47] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: thank you. I've written that command down in my book of commands. :)
[06:47] <livingdaylight> _Shade_: oh, i did
[06:47] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: writing? Bah! There are excellent programs out there for note-taking ;-)
[06:47] <apokryphos> might I recommend basket 8)
[06:48] <webpower_> I wont to know the command from shell to do safety remove
[06:48] <apokryphos> !info basket
[06:48] <ubotu> basket: User-friendly way to run programs and manage links in KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-5 (dapper), package size 336 kB, installed size 1184 kB
[06:48] <webpower_> not umount
[06:48] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: huh? ami livinving inthe darkages?
[06:48] <apokryphos> webpower_: well most likely it doesn't do it through a shell of course, but it'd be something like: umount /media/somedisk && eject /media/somedisk
[06:48] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: oh yeah 8)
[06:48] <webpower_> apokryphos: eject what does?
[06:49] <apokryphos> webpower_: man eject
[06:49] <webpower_> eject opens automatically cdrom and floppy
[06:49] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: sudo apt-get install basket ;)
[06:49] <v3ctor> eject (1)            - eject removable media
[06:49] <htraki> webpower: same as in cd player
[06:50] <Dr_willis> i think somthing has to be umounted befor its ejected
[06:50] <v3ctor> eject should umount for you...if it can
[06:50] <Dr_willis> or course all eject does is send a command to the device..  that may or may not do anything.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> v3ctor,  ya sure of that? Hmm lets check with this cd.
[06:50] <apokryphos> yup, but I don't recall --  eject on some systems might umount automatically first if it's mounted
[06:50] <_Shade_> wow i've downloaded 55% of updates... i wonder how many packages will be upgradeable when it's done :)
[06:50] <htraki> Dr_willis: the sw does it 4 U
[06:50] <robin__> I am trying to setup edgy to mount xp when booting, whem i type the following command " gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" I get an error can someone help?
[06:51] <apokryphos> robin__: what's the error?
[06:51] <Dr_willis> guess it does. :P
[06:51] <Dr_willis> spiffy
[06:51] <htraki> robin_: open fstab in the editor gedit or kate
[06:51] <Dr_willis> assuming of course nothing is using it.
[06:51] <v3ctor> of course
[06:51] <robin__> (gksudo:4877): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: is the error
[06:51] <apokryphos> robin__: try using kdesu instead of gksudo
[06:51] <robin__> ok
[06:52] <htraki> robin_:U have to be root to edit fstab
[06:52] <apokryphos> and perhaps kate instead of gedit :P
[06:52] <Dr_willis> cool - kde mounted the audio cd and showed the tracks as wav/mp3/ogg/and others. :)
[06:52] <webpower_> if is unmounted
[06:52] <arunkale> A friend of mine tried out Ubuntu on his OS X.. and Ubuntu doesn't stretch to the full length of the screen
[06:52] <webpower_> eject what does?
[06:52] <apokryphos> htraki: gksudo is GTK's app for opening a GUI app as root
[06:52] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  my guess - it just sends the eject command to the device.
[06:52] <robin__> root@robin-desktop:~# kdesu gedit /etc/fstab
[06:52] <robin__> kdesu: cannot connect to X server
[06:52] <v3ctor> Dr_willis: easy to rip em that way ;)
[06:52] <Dr_willis> v3ctor,  and ehre i have been using GRIP. :P
[06:52] <webpower_> what does eject command to pen drive?
[06:52] <apokryphos> robin__: don't do that as root :)
[06:53] <webpower_> ejects open cd rom
[06:53] <apokryphos> robin__: alt+f2 -> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[06:53] <v3ctor> drag and drop is nicer
[06:53] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: gonna have to learn to use this basket :s
[06:53] <robin__> ok
[06:53] <htraki> robin_: Do su in kterm or xterm,then kate /etc/fstab
[06:53] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: it's really good; see some of the features it has on basket.kde.org
[06:53] <apokryphos> webpower_: yes, but obviously not with a usb pen drive
[06:53] <apokryphos> don't worry, it won't fly out of the port ;-)
[06:53] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  you expecting the usb drive to fly across the room? :P id say the usb device may or may not respond to the eject command.
[06:53] <robin__> being root was my problem thx
[06:53] <Dr_willis> i cant find any or my usb  things that seem to care about eject.
[06:54] <apokryphos> robin__: root is disabled on ubuntu by default :P
[06:54] <webpower_> and what does with pen drive?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> eject did remove the device from the kde 'storage media' list.
[06:55] <htraki> apokyphos: To become root,just give user passwd when req
[06:55] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: Awesome! i was living in the Dark Ages there with my pen and paper, Geezuz Krist!
[06:55] <webpower_> Dr_willis: i don't understand
[06:55] <v3ctor> i take notes the old fashioned way...
[06:56] <v3ctor> i log irc
[06:56] <apokryphos> v3ctor: problematic when you find that irc isn't responsible for all the knowledge in the world :P
[06:56] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  it dont do nothing  since it cant... its mainly used for other gizmos.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  unmount the thing and its safe to remove
[06:56] <v3ctor> apokryphos: it isn't ?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> or use the safely remove.. which does umount +  eject.
[06:57] <apokryphos> v3ctor: yup, there's wikipedia too!
[06:57] <webpower_> I'd like to know what eject does to pen drive
[06:58] <v3ctor> i am gonna start using google office to make a document to save all of my google searches on
[06:58] <htraki> webpower_:safety remove from sys
[06:58] <webpower_> like umount?
[06:59] <apokryphos> webpower_: well have you even checked google?
[06:59] <apokryphos> http://eject.sourceforge.net/
[06:59] <htraki> No,umount just removes media
[06:59] <lupine_85> what eject does to pen drives?
[06:59] <htraki> softwarely,hardwarely
[07:00] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  i am guessing your pen drive is one of the .00000000000000000000001% int he world that responds to eject by turning off the led.
[07:00] <lupine_85> probably not a lot
[07:00] <Dr_willis> lupine_85,  im gaterhing that his pen drive some how has a led that shows its on/off.
[07:00] <lupine_85> cor
[07:00] <lupine_85> good job it's plugged into the PS/2 port ;)
[07:00] <htraki> No, Ithink it show data transferring
[07:00] <webpower_> Dr_willis: try
[07:00] <lupine_85> so it turns the LED off. not a big deal, and not really useful ;)
[07:01] <Dr_willis> My pendrives all got one led.. that is on all the time.
[07:01] <Dr_willis> they dont even flicker when being accessed
[07:01] <Dr_willis> of course now kde's auto mounting is really confused from the 5+ devices ive been plkugging in.
[07:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:02] <webpower_> Dr_willis_ try to do eject /dev/sda1
[07:02] <webpower_> led turns of?
[07:02] <webpower_> of
[07:02] <webpower_> try
[07:03] <_Shade_> will edgy support my multimedia keyboard? I heard it does, but it doesn't it seems
[07:03] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  since sda1 is my sata drive ; ) no.
[07:03] <lupine_85> _Shade_: probably. You'd need to install hotkey
[07:03] <lupine_85> !info hotkey
[07:03] <ronnylinux> hi guys i typed this command: mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS>://algo /home/ronny/ronnyfiles  and got this message: mount to NFS server '<IP_ADDRESS>' failed.
[07:03] <ubotu> Package hotkey does not exist in any distro I know
[07:03] <lupine_85> !info hotkeys
[07:03] <ubotu> hotkeys: A hotkeys daemon for your Internet/multimedia keyboard in X. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 141 kB, installed size 380 kB
[07:04] <ronnylinux> what can i do
[07:04] <lupine_85> very handy
[07:04] <webpower_> Dr_willis: try with pen drive
[07:04] <v3ctor>  mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS>:/algo /home/ronny/ronnyfiles
[07:04] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  it does nothing. the blue led stays on - on my device
[07:04] <Dr_willis> it did not shoot across the room either. :)
[07:04] <ronnylinux> v3ctor yes i use that and the same
[07:04] <Blissex> ronnylinux: there is an NFS FAQ with extensive advice on where to look to debug problems too...
[07:04] <htraki> Dr.Willis:Preheaps /dev/sdb like at me
[07:05] <htraki> or /dev/usbdisk
[07:05] <v3ctor> sudo  mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS>:/algo /home/ronny/ronnyfiles
[07:05] <htraki> sorry, I meant /media/usbdisk
[07:05] <webpower_> Dr_willis: also with "safety remove" from kde?
[07:05] <_Shade_> lupine_85: thanks, i'll do it, but first i have to cope with the updates :). It's 270MBs on a low brandwidth
[07:05] <htraki> or U can add the mount dir as parm
[07:05] <lupine_85> 270MB, eh?
[07:06] <ronnylinux> v3ctor the message continue
[07:06] <webpower_> Dr_willis: try from kde
[07:06] <v3ctor> ronnylinux: is nfs server runnig on remote system?
[07:06] <v3ctor> running* even
[07:06] <webpower_> Dr_willis: try from kde
[07:06] <Dr_willis> webpower_, nothing webpower_
[07:07] <webpower_> led remains on?
[07:07] <htraki> try to eject form cmd lind
[07:08] <Dr_willis> webpower_,  yes.. if i plug in the device the blue led is on... all the time... ive never ever seen it EVER turn off...
[07:08] <ronnylinux> v3ctor i installed apt-get install nfs-common and the kernel too
[07:08] <robin__> i now am mounting xp on boot, the bad news is when i try to access it it says i dont have permission lol. any idea's?
[07:08] <htraki> Did U close all apps that are using the pendrive?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> same goes for my other usb gizmos
[07:08] <ronnylinux> what it means they are running?
[07:09] <v3ctor> ronnylinux: did you install that on both system?
[07:09] <htraki> robin_:does windowz runs on ntfs
[07:09] <arunkale> kde 3.5.5. is out/
[07:09] <ronnylinux> v3ctor yes in both i have two kubuntu machines
[07:10] <htraki> robin_:did U add users parm in fstab
[07:10] <v3ctor> ronnylinux: did you edit /etc/exports on the server system and start the service?
[07:11] <ronnylinux> vector: no, how i can do that
[07:11] <v3ctor> hold on while i google that for you
[07:13] <will> hey all, i'm trying to use apt-get install to install a package that I know should exist, its event on packages.ubuntu.com but its saying it can't find it
[07:13] <will> and it's happened with a few packages so far
[07:13] <Hawkwind> ronnylinux: You need nfs-utils IIRC
[07:13] <will> even^
[07:13] <Hawkwind> ronnylinux: In /etc/hosts on the other box, you need something similar to this:  /storage   <IP_ADDRESS>(rw,sync,all_squash,anonuid=501,anongid=501,no_subtree_check)
[07:13] <robin__> I have mounted my xp partition but it says i dont have thge rights to view it, any thoughts any one?
[07:14] <zer0hour> will: is your package file up to date?
[07:14] <htraki> will:what parms do U have in repo?
[07:14] <will> ive run apt-get update
[07:14] <will> hrtraki: i dont understand the question, im a bit of a linuxnoob
[07:14] <Hawkwind> robin__: Sorry, it is nfs-common you need
[07:14] <htraki> paste your server list
[07:14] <Hawkwind> Ermm, ronnylinux ^^^^^^^^
[07:14] <will> how do i get it?
[07:14] <will> to paste
[07:14] <Hawkwind> ronnylinux: Have you tried doing:  sudo /etc/init.d/nfs start ?
[07:14] <Hawkwind> will: http://pastebin.ulteo.us
[07:15] <v3ctor> ronnylinux: http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ar01s03.html
[07:15] <Hawkwind> !nfs
[07:15] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:15] <Hawkwind> Much easier to understand page there for NFS.  Plus, it's *Ubuntu specific
[07:15] <will> how do i get my server list?
[07:15] <Hawkwind> will: It's in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:16] <v3ctor> hmm...forgot to try ubotu
[07:16] <htraki> go to /etc/apt and paste yore sources.list
[07:16] <will> deb http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[07:16] <will> deb-src http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[07:16] <will> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[07:16] <will> ## distribution.
[07:16] <will> deb http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[07:16] <will> deb-src http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[07:17] <will> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[07:17] <will> ## repository.
[07:17] <will> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[07:17] <will> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[07:17] <will> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[07:17] <will> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[07:17] <will> ## team.
[07:17] <will> # deb http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[07:17] <will> # deb-src http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[07:17] <will> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[07:17] <v3ctor> can you paste some of your other config files too
[07:17] <will> ## repository.
[07:17] <robin__> nfs-common, then what?"
[07:17] <will> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[07:17] <will> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
[07:17] <will> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
[07:17] <will> ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
[07:18] <will> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[07:18] <htraki> U have to uncomment the following lines  ...
[07:18] <will_> sry all i just got kicked
[07:18] <Manyfold> hello i have a problem everytime i do "wget -O foo2zjs.tar.gz http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/foo2zjs.tar.gz" i get an "bash: $: command not found" also locate finds the binary in /usr/bin and that directory appears in $PATH. so what went wrong?
[07:18] <Hawkwind> will_: Please don't paste to the channel
[07:19] <Hawkwind> will_: I stated for you to use http://pastebin.ulteo.us
[07:19] <will_> sry
[07:19] <will_> ok ive pasted it there
[07:19] <htraki> end with universe and add 'multiverse' after that
[07:20] <Hawkwind> will_: You have to paste us the resulting URL
[07:20] <will_> http://pastebin.ulteo.us/160
[07:20] <v3ctor> Manyfold: why not just "wget http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/foo2zjs.tar.gz" ?
[07:21] <Hawkwind> will_: You need to edit the file and add universe multiverse to the lines that don't have a # at the beginning
[07:21] <Hawkwind> will_: To edit the file, kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list   Replace kwrite with your editor of choice
[07:21] <htraki> and add multiverse after that
[07:22] <htraki> it is a another repo
[07:22] <Hawkwind> Hah, I mentioned both multiverse universe already :P
[07:23] <will_> ok thx all ill try tht
[07:23] <will_> what does kdesu do btw?
[07:23] <v3ctor> !repos
[07:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:23] <v3ctor> that explains it pretty well also
[07:23] <htraki> kdesu provides root privileges
[07:23] <will_> is it like sudo?
[07:24] <LjL> will_: yes, for kde apps
[07:24] <htraki> sudo is for execute a command
[07:24] <Manyfold> v3ctor: well that worked but when i look at the wget man page the -O option is mentioned so the first version should work too
[07:24] <will_> ah kk
[07:24] <Manyfold> v3ctor: i have the fear that my bash is royaly fucked up
[07:24] <v3ctor> i read the whole section on that option...i think that the filename needs to exist first
[07:25] <ricanelite> Hell all, I need help to fix my screen resolution right now it is only displaying 1024x768 and I know it could go higher, I'm a newbie so please help me out the best way you can
[07:25] <Manyfold> so touch filename and then wget -O ?
[07:25] <felixjet> !xconfig
[07:26] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:26] <B-Minus> hmmm
[07:26] <B-Minus> my laptop monitor is very dark
[07:26] <Manyfold> !wget
[07:26] <ubotu> wget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 225 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[07:26] <v3ctor> Manyfold: maybe?
[07:26] <felixjet> thats for you ricanelite
[07:26] <Manyfold> that bot is cool
[07:26] <Manyfold> !dpkg-statoverride
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpkg-statoverride - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <will> sucess!!!
[07:27] <will> thx so much everyone
[07:27] <htraki> ricanelite: do kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit to your needs
[07:27] <ricanelite> wait
[07:27] <felixjet> my ethernet card is setup on eth1. how can i convert it to the eth0 ??
[07:27] <ricanelite> where do i type that?
[07:28] <ricanelite> and which one?
[07:28] <htraki> in terminal
[07:28] <ricanelite> so i type in kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:28] <ricanelite> ??
[07:28] <htraki> xterm or kterm
[07:29] <htraki> Go to Screen Section
[07:30] <htraki> Default Depth should be 24 ..
[07:30] <ricanelite> Now, how I do configre this on xorg.conf-kate?
[07:30] <ricanelite> so I put in the Screen Resolution I want right next to the other one?
[07:30] <htraki> yes,or what do U need
[07:30] <htraki> space separted
[07:30] <ricanelite> but there 4 different lines
[07:31] <felixjet> my ethernet card is setup on eth1. how can i convert it to the eth0 ??
[07:31] <htraki> Yes, they are 4 colour depths
[07:31] <ricanelite> damn i dont know what im doing
[07:31] <ricanelite> lol
[07:31] <htraki> 1,4,16,24
[07:31] <ricanelite> so i put the screen resolution i want on each line??
[07:31] <ubuntu> is it possible to use Kubuntu live cd to recover files from a hard drive partition with a boot-failing windows version installed?
[07:32] <htraki> Only one that U use
[07:32] <ricanelite> so is 24 stand for 24bit color?
[07:32] <htraki> Mine looks like this:
[07:32] <htraki> DefaultDepth	24
[07:33] <LjL> ricanelite: yes
[07:33] <htraki> Did U saved the file
[07:34] <htraki> If yes, then exit form kde and cross your finger
[07:34] <htraki> s
[07:34] <ricanelite> so, right where it says Subsection "Display"  Depth    24   Modes    "1024x768" i put right before that the screen resolution i want
[07:34] <ricanelite> is there a better way by using the terminal where it tells you which one to select cause i remeber doing that before
[07:34] <htraki> ok, go ahead
[07:35] <LjL> ricanelite: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:35] <Manyfold> now when i try to make that thing my compiler can't find standart libraries like stdio.h string.h and such
[07:35] <LjL> ricanelite: that will modify xorg.conf using a series of questions
[07:35] <LjL> Manyfold: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[07:36] <B-Minus> hello
[07:38] <Dr_willis> Moo! :)
[07:39] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. looks like my dvd-burner is having issues reading cd;s now. :(
[07:39] <orient2000> Hi, everybody! I need to e-mail about 130 very small pictures from one directory by 130 e-mails. Is there any way to do it automaticly, maybe from konsole? I use evolution.
[07:40] <Dr_willis> orient2000,  you are sending 130 pictures to 130 different email accounts?
[07:40] <orient2000> only one account.
[07:41] <htraki> Why dont send it once,just create a zip packages
[07:41] <Dr_willis> htraki,  yea - i was thinking that also. :)
[07:41] <B-Minus_> anyone know a good tutorial to play with ip settings in console ?
[07:41] <Dr_willis> B-Minus,  play with?
[07:41] <zorglu_> orient2000: do a script with 'kmail' in it ?
[07:42] <Dr_willis> ifconfig, route,  commands.. :P
[07:42] <orient2000> my father have no idea about zip
[07:42] <B-Minus_> ye change them etc .. example, in windows you do ipconfig /all and you can see if dhcp is enabled, i cant seem to see this in linux :s
[07:42] <Dr_willis> You would rather have him click through 130 different emails' ?
[07:42] <htraki> ok do you have all pics in a dir
[07:42] <Dr_willis> B-Minus,  ifconfig command
[07:42] <zorglu_> B-Minus_: http://lartc.org/ is the only one i know
[07:42] <Dr_willis> and other related commands
[07:42] <B-Minus_> tnx
[07:43] <orient2000> OK. I will try Kmail but I have no idea about scripts.
[07:44] <zorglu_> orient2000: you are not chosing the easiest technic
[07:44] <htraki> orient: Use Ark to create a compressed archive
[07:45] <htraki> Why dont U make it simple
[07:45] <htraki> That way is much difficulter
[07:46] <orient2000> how would you e-mail someone 130 picture 500kB in size. inserting them 130 times?
[07:46] <zorglu_> email are not done for this purpose
[07:46] <zorglu_> they are made to send humain message
[07:46] <zorglu_> it is not intended to do file transfert
[07:47] <Rider_R> Hello
[07:47] <htraki> Drop all pics in ad directory, and compress them in an archive,after that mail
[07:47] <LjL> htraki: don't think the mail will get through, if i've understood the file sizes correctly
[07:47] <Rider_R> Works like a charm!
[07:47] <felixjet> i need the xlibs 4.1> but adept dont show any result in search. what packages i need?
[07:48] <B-Minus_> why isnt this working
[07:48] <B-Minus_> tommy@tommy-laptop:~$ man ifconfig | nedit
[07:48] <B-Minus_> :(
[07:48] <B-Minus_> am i an idiot or something
[07:48] <htraki> One pics is 500K
[07:48] <orient2000> It will be 50MB file too big for e-mail.
[07:48] <LjL> B-Minus_: i don't have nedit... but i would find it strange if it got input from stdin.
[07:48] <zorglu_> to be answered, you must state what is your goal, B-Minus_
[07:48] <htraki> Then resize them first
[07:49] <B-Minus_> i want the output of the manpage in nedit
[07:49] <B-Minus_> or kate
[07:49] <B-Minus_> but kate doesnt seem to work as well with that command
[07:49] <htraki> or convert into a another format
[07:50] <htraki> What kind of format pics are in?
[07:50] <intelikey> b-minus man blah > text ; kate text
[07:50] <B-Minus_> hmmz
[07:50] <B-Minus_> tnx
[07:50] <zorglu_> B-Minus_: weird goal. but ok, do "man ifconfig >/tmp/bla" then "kate /tmp/bla"
[07:50] <orient2000> jpg I do not want to resizo or change format they will go for print and the receiver is a beginer in a computer
[07:50] <felixjet> i need the xlibs 4.1> but adept dont show any result in search. what packages i need?
[07:50] <felixjet> !xlibs
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xlibs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <zorglu_> !info xlibs
[07:51] <ubotu> Package xlibs does not exist in any distro I know
[07:51] <zorglu_> felixjet: first you must find the ubuntu name for this package
[07:51] <LjL> i think there is no such package anymore...
[07:51] <intelikey> !xlibs-dev
[07:51] <ubotu> xlibs-dev: X Window System client library development files transitional package. In component main, is extra. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 36 kB
[07:52] <felixjet> i need that package
[07:52] <felixjet> for cedega
[07:52] <LjL> !info xlibs-breezy
[07:52] <orient2000> is there any e-mail program I can use in a konsole?
[07:52] <LjL> !info xlibs breezy
[07:52] <ubotu> Package xlibs-breezy does not exist in any distro I know
[07:52] <ubotu> xlibs: X Window System client library transitional package. In component main, is optional. Version 6.8.2-77.1 (breezy), package size 89 kB, installed size 284 kB
[07:52] <LjL> felixjet: if you need to *compile* cedega, then what intelikey said
[07:52] <zorglu_> orient2000: kmail does it, as previously answered
[07:52] <felixjet> but i cant get it with apt-get
[07:52] <felixjet> no no
[07:52] <felixjet> is a .deb
[07:52] <felixjet> file
[07:52] <orient2000> thanks
[07:52] <LjL> felixjet: then it's a .deb file made for breezy, and not dapper.
[07:52] <LjL> find one for dapper
[07:53] <v3ctor> B-Minus_:  man -P '' ifconfig| nedit
[07:53] <felixjet> i dl'd it in emule :(
[07:53] <htraki> orient:I think wont be faster if U send them once , or send them 1by1
[07:53] <B-Minus_> tnx
[07:53] <intelikey> orient2000 text based email clients ?   mutt pine
[07:54] <zorglu_> felixjet: :) good reliable source :) :) :)
[07:54] <LjL> !cedega
[07:54] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[07:54] <LjL> felixjet: perhaps this is less risky.
[07:54] <zorglu_> felixjet: dont worry about being cracked after that :)
[07:54] <felixjet> lol
[07:57] <v3ctor> B-Minus_: i just tried with nedit and that didn;t work...sorry my test worked with vi
[07:57] <B-Minus_> ye didnt work :s but im just gonna try with the console layout :p
[07:57] <lipe_pe> When i type, for ex., limewire my kubuntu doesn't open it, it only "read" and exit the limewire, how can i fix it ?! please
[07:58] <LjL> B-Minus_: why don't you just load the manpage's file?
[07:58] <B-Minus_> i am now
[07:58] <B-Minus_> but i like reading more in a gui
[07:58] <LjL> B-Minus_: /usr/share/man/man8/ifconfig.8.gz - ungzip it and you have it
[07:58] <LjL> B-Minus_: oh, but if *that's* what you want, there *definitely* are other means!
[07:59] <intelikey> B-Minus_ xman
[07:59] <lipe_pe> When i type, for ex., limewire my kubuntu doesn't open it, it only "read" and exit the limewire, how can i fix it ?! please
[07:59] <v3ctor> B-Minus_: you can read man pages in konqueror
[07:59] <LjL> B-Minus_: type "man:/" in konq for one
[07:59] <B-Minus_> ok tnx
[08:00] <LjL> B-Minus_: or just go to the help system, and go to "UNIX manual pages"
[08:00] <LjL> (you can also make searches from there of course)
[08:01] <LjL> !limewire
[08:01] <B-Minus_> man;/ is good
[08:01] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[08:01] <lipe_pe> When i type, for ex., "limewire" my kubuntu doesn't open it, it only "read" and exit the it, how can i fix it ?! please
[08:01] <intelikey> LjL isn't there a shorten form of that also in knoq   !:   or  #:   or something
[08:01] <LjL> lipe_pe: done what's said above?
[08:01] <lipe_pe> LjL: Thx u veeery much
[08:02] <LjL> intelikey: well, tbh i just use "man" from a console
[08:02] <[Bart] > hi, is kernel 2.6.17 or 2.6.18 already available for kubuntu?
[08:03] <trappist> [Bart] : 2.6.17 is, in edgy
[08:03] <lipe_pe> how can i add the ARIAL font, to openoffice ?? someone please ...
[08:03] <intelikey> hehhe me too but i was thinking i heard that (and i'm not sure of the chars) !:/page  for man and #:/page for info   or something like that
[08:04] <intelikey> !fonts
[08:04] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[08:04] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[08:04] <lipe_pe> intelikey: thx u veeeeeeeeeeeeery much ! :D
[08:05] <[Bart] > tnx trappist
[08:06] <v3ctor> font:/
[08:06] <v3ctor> ;)
[08:07] <MasterEvilAce> what do i do in /boot/grub/menu.lst to make XP the default boot option everytime
[08:08] <intelikey> put it in the "default" veriable  ?
[08:08] <ajopaul_> MasterEvilAce, make default 4
[08:09] <ajopaul_> its usually 4 unless u have other options as well!
[08:09] <intelikey> ajopaul_ and that assumes a lot
[08:10] <jhutchins_wk> MasterEvilAce:  Determine which entry in the list is XP, and use the number of that entry as the default.
[08:11] <intelikey> heh or move your xp entry to the top of the list of entries lol
[08:11] <ajopaul_> intelikey, i was taking from the default installation cue :) which has from 0 to 4
[08:11] <MasterEvilAce> 4 worked fine ;)
[08:11] <lipe_pe> When i open the synaptic, its says " gksu /usr/sbin/synaptic" not found. What should i do, please ... ?!
[08:11] <jhutchins_wk> ajopaul_: On _your_ system.
[08:12] <intelikey> ajopaul_ jah
[08:12] <ajopaul_> ok ok non specific is the word!! got it :)
[08:13] <intelikey> i can't use grub to boot this system so i don't have a "default" to look at  :)
[08:13] <intelikey> grub is too weak to boot this linux
[08:14] <ajopaul_> ok one thing on konsole! i work behind a proxy  but in konsole apt-gets or wgets dont work at al but works on gnome-terminal,
[08:14] <ajopaul_> have installed kubuntu after ubuntu!
[08:15] <intelikey> ajopaul_ man wget it can use a proxie
[08:15] <intelikey> or aget
[08:15] <intelikey> curl
[08:16] <intelikey> DESCRIPTION
[08:16] <intelikey>        GNU Wget is a free utility for non-interactive download of files from
[08:16] <intelikey>        the Web.  It supports HTTP, HTTPS, and FTP protocols, as well as
[08:16] <intelikey>        retrieval through HTTP proxies.
[08:16] <lupine_85> wget is fine, it just needs the env variables setting
[08:16] <LjL> ajopaul_: set the http_proxy shell variable
[08:16] <ajopaul_> noop! even apt-get dont work! but when i invoke konsole thru gnome-terminal all is fine.
[08:17] <lupine_85> presumably gnome-terminal is doing it all for you automagically
[08:17] <lupine_85> environment variables are inherited
[08:17] <stefan> test 1-2
[08:17] <intelikey> ajopaul_ all that gnome-term is doing is setting the correct veriables
[08:18] <ajopaul_> ok! will try with env variable
[08:19] <intelikey> you can open gnome-terminal and set >> .profile    "maybe then edit the new .profile to make sure you have propper syntax on all
[08:19] <intelikey> i.e. remove the uuid  and some things that get set each command.
[08:24] <sredna> After upgrading last night, printing does not work :0
[08:24] <sredna> Can someone help?
[08:25] <orient2000> mutt simes to be on;e e-mail reader I do not see pine in linux or adept.
[08:25] <sredna> I NEED to print!
[08:25] <sredna> Alternatively, can I downgrade?
[08:26] <lupine_85> !info pine
[08:26] <ubotu> Package pine does not exist in any distro I know
[08:26] <sredna> Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: Localhost: Read failed (15).
[08:26] <sredna> Is the error I get
[08:27] <B-Minus_> hmms
[08:27] <B-Minus_> how come i can only see ip leases from my wireless networkcard in dhcp.leases ?
[08:27] <B-Minus_> and not my wired
[08:29] <sredna> I can't use the kcom printer module as root either, same error
[08:31] <psb154> sredna do you have cups installed (sorry if i am a bit behind this thread)
[08:31] <sredna> Yes, I have cups installed
[08:32] <sredna> Untill today, I have been able to print
[08:32] <psb154> ah
[08:32] <sredna> Last night I updated, in order to get kde 3.5.5
[08:32] <sredna> Since then, (it appears) I can't pring
[08:32] <sredna> Print
[08:32] <v3ctor> the cost of being cutting edge
[08:32] <sredna> I get the error above
[08:32] <sredna> Bah
[08:32] <v3ctor> try resinstalling cupsd
[08:32] <sredna> Ok, let me try that
[08:33] <psb154> sredna i would give: apt-get install cups   ago again just to see if it can be updated also
[08:33] <sredna> psb154: I believe it was
[08:34] <sredna> How can I see the version of installed package?
[08:35] <v3ctor> aptutide show cupsd
[08:36] <bLaZeD> !pornview
[08:36] <ubotu> pornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 608 kB
[08:38] <sredna> Is there a cli client for cups?
[08:38] <v3ctor> aptutide show cupsys
[08:39] <intelikey> lp*
[08:40] <ricanelite> Hello all, I need help with things that I'm confuse about, One is getting the Lastest Java installed and Flash
[08:40] <bLaZeD> !info pornview
[08:40] <ubotu> pornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 608 kB
[08:40] <ricanelite> I'm a linux newbie so please forgive me.
[08:40] <intelikey> !java
[08:40] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:40] <intelikey> !flash
[08:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:40] <v3ctor> !restrictedformats
[08:41] <v3ctor> !restrictedformats
[08:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:42] <intelikey> !mp3
[08:42] <max_> hello, can anyone help me install p7zip, im having troubles with it
[08:42] <intelikey> know any other links to the same infonode ?
[08:42] <max_> v3ctor, is there anyother program to decompress 7z's?
[08:42] <zorglu_> v3ctor: it is because you asked the same command than has been just replied. the bot doesnt answer duplicate in those case
[08:43] <v3ctor> zorglu_: ahh
[08:43] <zorglu_> !bot
[08:43] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:43] <intelikey> !wmv
[08:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:43] <sredna> This must have something to do with KDE, the web interface sees my printer.
[08:43] <TheGateKeeper> max_: what's the problem?
[08:43] <zorglu_> intelikey: the 'brain' gives the list of alias
[08:43] <intelikey> !multimedia
[08:43] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:43] <intelikey> so there are at least 5
[08:44] <v3ctor> max_: sudo aptitude install p7zip
[08:44] <max_> i did that
[08:44] <v3ctor> the binary has a different name though ;)
[08:45] <v3ctor> 7z
[08:45] <zorglu_> max_: good so it is installed
[08:45] <max_> i dont know what the problem is, i click the .7z archive and it askes me what program to open, and i dont know where it installed it
[08:45] <method|> hey i just followed this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271533&highlight=kde+xgl on how to setup bery and xgl. When i try to load up xgl from login it hangs a bit then kicks me back to the login screen. Any help?
[08:45] <zorglu_> not a good day for me to help :)
[08:46] <v3ctor> max_: /usr/bin/7z
[08:46] <PasNox> me too :|
[08:47] <psb154> sredna have you seen any speed or other bennifits with 3.5.5 ?
[08:47] <lupine_85> is it just me or is Openoffice2 calc a PoS?
[08:47] <lupine_85> is Kcalc any better?
[08:47] <max_> v3ctor: the 7z (shell script) or the 7za (executable)?
[08:47] <intelikey> path should be superflutious when associating apps to files  but it doesn't seem to be     i wonder why ?
[08:47] <v3ctor> sorry..7za
[08:48] <v3ctor> i am trying to block all of this out ;)
[08:48] <lupine_85> all I want is error bars on my line graph, with the data fed from cells in the spreadsheet.
[08:48] <sredna> psb154: Khtml seems faster, that is about what I experienced up to now, but I used the new system only very little
[08:48] <orient2000> why I alwais have message   - display problem? - can not connect to X server 0.0. ? Do I need to instal some x server?
[08:48] <max_> v3ctor: i do that and it dosnt open it, the 7za opens in the tray, but wont do anything or open a gui or anything
[08:49] <iLikeSpoons> hey everyone, I have a ubuntu/kubuntu question - I'm trying to get the latest amarok version working on my ubuntu system and I have added the kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest to my sources list. But, amarok 1.4.x depends on libvisual-0.4.0. And the only libvisual version available in ubuntu repos is 0.2.0.
[08:49] <v3ctor> may not have gui output
[08:49] <jsnap> !ati
[08:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:49] <v3ctor> i have only ever used .7z files in cli
[08:49] <iLikeSpoons> how/where do I get 0.4.0, or, alternatively, how do I get synaptic to realize that I have compiled it manually?
[08:49] <intelikey> lupine_85 bc
[08:49] <max_> what is cli
[08:49] <v3ctor> command line interface
[08:49] <intelikey> !cli
[08:49] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:49] <max_> oh,
[08:50] <max_> how do i know if it is uncompressing it?
[08:50] <max_> or where it puts it?
[08:50] <v3ctor> does it give error?
[08:50] <max_> no
[08:50] <intelikey> in linux no error means no error
[08:50] <v3ctor> where it puts it depends on how the archive was created
[08:50] <lupine_85> bc?
[08:50] <lupine_85> !bc
[08:50] <ubotu> bc: The GNU bc arbitrary precision calculator language. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 64 kB, installed size 188 kB
[08:51] <max_> an icon pops up in the tray that says "7za" but then it closes
[08:51] <fred_> Hello! I'd like a button on a desktop panel that launch a wine .exe in a chroot..
[08:51] <v3ctor> max_: how did you use it?
[08:51] <v3ctor> what did you run?
[08:51] <fred_> I try did a script but wine start only when I type exit in the console..
[08:51] <lupine_85> erm, not kcalc... I'm after the KDE spreadsheet thingy
[08:51] <max_> i set the open with for 7z's to be 7za, so i just clicked the archive
[08:52] <DaSkreech> orient2000: What OS does your father use?
[08:52] <intelikey> max_ have you tried using fileroller  or arc
[08:52] <lupine_85> I want a graph with Y axis error bars, the value of which (for each point on the graph) is fed from a cell
[08:52] <v3ctor> max_: i don't think you can *click* on a 7z archive
[08:52] <orient2000> windows ha ha
[08:52] <v3ctor> hmm
[08:52] <v3ctor> ark may work
[08:52] <intelikey> i could be wrong but both should be able to use the z7 alg.
[08:52] <sredna> I can't print with kde though
[08:52] <max_> i set the "open with" to "always use this to open with"
[08:52] <max_> arc wont do it
[08:53] <lupine_85> !oleo
[08:53] <ubotu> oleo: GNU spreadsheet program. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.99.16-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 389 kB, installed size 1360 kB
[08:53] <sredna> It fails to 'initialize the printing system' with the same error
[08:53] <fred_> #!/bin/sh
[08:53] <fred_> dchroot bash
[08:53] <fred_> export DISPLAY=:0
[08:53] <fred_> #/var/chroot/dapper/usr/bin/winecfg
[08:53] <fred_> /var/chroot/dapper/usr/bin/wine /home/fred/.wine/amc/MovieCatalog.exe
[08:53] <sredna> Anyone else updated, and experienced printing problems?
[08:54] <lupine_85> gnumeric, kspread...
[08:54] <lupine_85> anyone used either of those?
[08:54] <orient2000> I just installed mutt I think it is replacing pine
[08:54] <v3ctor> i have used kspread
[08:55] <intelikey> orient2000 what provided pine ?  sendmail maybe ?
[08:55] <max_> can no one help me with 7z's?
[08:55] <trappist> fred_: I have /usr/local/bin/do_chroot, like: ARGS=""; for i in "$@"; do ARGS="$ARGS '$i'";done;exec dchroot -d -q "`basename $0`" "$ARGS"
[08:55] <v3ctor> max_: open konsole
[08:55] <v3ctor> cd to dir containing the .7z archive
[08:55] <trappist> fred_: then, sudo ln -s /usr/local/bin/do_chroot /usr/local/bin/wine
[08:56] <v3ctor> then: 7za e <filename>.7z
[08:56] <sredna> lupine_85: I used kspread
[08:56] <max_> v3ctor: ok, there
[08:56] <v3ctor> 7za e <filename>.7z
[08:57] <_Shade_> does edgy support locales? When i go to the "language support" there are no languages on the list
[08:57] <max_> v3ctor: Error: CB3.7z is not supported archiv
[08:57] <PasNox> hi need help please, kubuntu dapper, was kde 3.5.4, update yesterday to kde 3.5.5 and now many website can t be seen, kopete ca nconnect msn aim icq, work great on windows :(
[08:57] <v3ctor> google that
[08:57] <max_> ok
[08:57] <fred_> I lost the first part of answer . launched /list....
[08:58] <fred_> sorry..
[08:58] <intelikey> _shade_   apt-cache search language | less       install what you need.
[08:58] <v3ctor> file CB3.7z
[08:58] <v3ctor> see if it actually is a .7z archive
[08:59] <max_> it is
[08:59] <PasNox> help please
[08:59] <PasNox> hae heard of this problem ?
[08:59] <v3ctor> did file tel you it was?
[08:59] <PasNox> have*
[08:59] <max_> yes, and when i ran win98 i was able to uncompress it with a 7z program
[09:00] <max_> whats gzip?
[09:00] <v3ctor> according to documentation...ark should be able to open it
[09:00] <v3ctor> intelikey: bzip2 gets better compression ;P
[09:00] <intelikey> v3ctor no.
[09:01] <lupine_85> bz2 is great
[09:01] <jhutchins_wk> PasNox: You installed an unstable, untested version of KDE which JUST got released.  The only reason you'd do that is so you could file bugreports, right?
[09:01] <lupine_85> but quite a bit slower
[09:01] <seamus7> hi all .... I have Kubuntu-Desktop installed on top of (or in addition to) my Ubuntu installation. I noticed Kubuntu-Desktop seems to be 3.5.2 .... is it the new KDE 3.5.5 available as a Kubuntu package and if yes .... what would a simple terminal command be for upgrading to 3.5.5 ?
[09:01] <max_> ark dosnt handle 7z's
[09:01] <intelikey> v3ctor bz2 gets better compression in some cases gzip gets better compression in some  it depends on wyat you compress
[09:01] <intelikey> what eve
[09:01] <intelikey> n
[09:01] <sredna> Hm, digikam is very crashy after the update, it crashed 3 times tonight, something I NEVER experienced before
[09:01] <intelikey> .
[09:02] <PasNox> jhutchins_wk: it s not unstable o_O
[09:02] <method|> i just installed xgl and beryl using this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271533&highlight=kde+xgl
[09:02] <method|> when i try to start up xgl from the kde login it hangs a bit then throws me back out to login. any ideas?
[09:02] <jhutchins_wk> PasNox: If you say so.
[09:02] <jhutchins_wk> PasNox: Are you sure everything got updated?
[09:03] <cathal> anyone know anything about the m-audio 1010LT sound card and how to hook up surround sound speakers to it
[09:03] <PasNox> jhutchins_wk: i think, i haev not read anuwhere on kubuntu is was unstable , untested
[09:03] <PasNox> yes all update
[09:03] <kdw> sredna: cups bug is 65665
[09:03] <mrmuh> hi
[09:04] <sredna> kdw: Ah, interresting, it is known!
[09:04] <mrmuh> how can i install a smp kernel for amd k7?
[09:04] <mrmuh> i only got the generic
[09:04] <sredna> kdw: Where do I find that? bugs.kde.org?
[09:04] <danny500> hey, v3ctor you on?
[09:04] <v3ctor> danny500: yes
[09:04] <intelikey> !smp > mrmuh
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <cpk2> mrmuh: linux-k7-smp - Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7 SMP.
[09:04] <Ash-Fox> Mmm, KDE 3.5.5 looks promising.
[09:04] <kdw> sredna: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/65665
[09:04] <intelikey> u stupid bot.  you used too
[09:05] <v3ctor> lol
[09:05] <mrmuh> cant find it under aptitude
[09:05] <danny500> do you know were I could get a free version of cedega?
[09:05] <sredna> Thank you, kdw
[09:05] <v3ctor> danny500: you could get the cvs version
[09:05] <Ash-Fox> danny500, cedega is not free. You Wine.
[09:05] <cpk2> !info linux-k7-smp
[09:05] <danny500> were?
[09:05] <ubotu> linux-k7-smp: Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7 SMP.. In component restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[09:05] <seamus7> Ash-Fox: is it possible to update my Kubuntu-Desktop installation to KDE 3.5.5 ... I noticed it's at 3.5.2?
[09:05] <v3ctor> it is a bit older..but it mostly works
[09:05] <v3ctor> let me find the info
[09:05] <danny500> were do you get the cvs version?
[09:05] <kdw> you're welcome sredna :-)
[09:05] <Ash-Fox> Sanne, no, right now you can only update it to 3.5.4
[09:05] <PasNox> jhutchins_wk: yes all update / upgrade
[09:05] <mrmuh> ok
[09:05] <mrmuh> ty
[09:06] <Narishma> hi
[09:06] <Sanne> Ash-Fox: huh?
[09:06] <v3ctor> danny500: http://v3ctor.org/docs/cedega_cvs.txt
[09:06] <Ash-Fox> Sanne, well, at least easilly. I just spent half the day compiling KDE 3.5.5 and installed it manually
[09:06] <Sanne> Ash-Fox: I didn't ask anything
[09:06] <max_> can aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyone help with 7z's?
[09:06] <danny500> what you have your own webpage? lol
[09:06] <seamus7> Ash-Fox: how do I update it to 3.5.4 .... is there a simple terminal command for that?
[09:06] <Ash-Fox> Sorry, I meant seamus7
[09:06] <Narishma> was javascript disabled in akregator 3.5.5 ?
[09:06] <Sanne> Ash-Fox: ah, tab completion :) Thanks anyway, heh.
[09:06] <v3ctor> danny500: yes...but all the good sutff is hidden ;)
[09:06] <Ash-Fox> seamus7, yes, you can add some repositories and then just do a update using adept
[09:07] <v3ctor> stuff*
[09:07] <cpk2> Ash-Fox: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php 3.5.5 isnt out yet?
[09:07] <Ash-Fox> cpk2, ack, please don't tell me I wasted a day doing this
[09:07] <Ash-Fox> I wasted a day, argh
[09:07] <mrmuh> i try apt-get isntall linux-k7-smp
[09:07] <mrmuh> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:08] <intelikey> sredna if needed you can force a down grade until that is fixed
[09:08] <cpk2> =P
[09:08] <max_> v3ctor: i couldnt find any results on google for that problem, is there anyother way to do it, or anyoter program
[09:08] <mrmuh> what did i wrong
[09:08] <sredna> intelikey: I dearly hope that will not be nessecary
[09:08] <cpk2> mrmuh: you probably have adept running
[09:09] <seamus7> Ash-Fox or anyone: where can I find a list of those repositories for updating my Kubuntu-Desktop to 3.5.4 (is it worth it you think?)?
[09:09] <sredna> Though again, kde wasted a LOT of time today.
[09:09] <xxenon> hi. Any running edgy and tried XGL ?
[09:09] <xxenon> anyone*
[09:09] <v3ctor> max_: the archive is either corrupt or i have missed an option. I would recomend reading up on the 7za man page
[09:09] <TheGateKeeper> mrmuh: have you got adept or synaptic running?
[09:09] <intelikey> oh kde is good at that
[09:09] <cpk2> seamus7: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php to get 3.5.5 (the latest)
[09:10] <max_> the p7zip page is mostly for windows, it hardlt mesnions linux
[09:10] <intelikey> most excellent at wasting time of all packages i've ever seen..... i like it.
[09:10] <sredna> intelikey: I havent had many problems for a while, but this week have been a mixed experience.
[09:10] <Ash-Fox> seamus7, it's not worth it if you have everything you want
[09:10] <v3ctor> max_: open up konsole...type: man 7za
[09:10] <TFrog> anyone here have Edgy Eft Beta loaded and having issues with updates breaking Adept to the point of having to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a to get it working again?
[09:10] <cpk2> seamus7: sourceomatic also has a repo for the latest kde version so you dont always have to add a repo for the newest kde
[09:11] <Ash-Fox> generally, http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest has the latest KDE available for kubuntu on it
[09:11] <intelikey> sredna i use the "if it aint broke, don't fix it" rule   updates/upgrades are only for know problems not for new eye-candy
[09:11] <max_> Error:
[09:11] <max_> Incorrect command line