[00:00] <histo> !alis | eam
[00:00] <ki7mt> eam, Are talking about like -Wl, --as needed on flags ? If so, I have issues with that as well,, particularly on Python apps (F2PY), leaving it out on Ubuntu builds is ok, as it prevents dupes anyway, whereas Debian build servers will complain.
[00:00] <histo> eam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment  there is also this
[00:00] <eam> ki7mt: yes exactly
[00:01] <ki7mt> eam, You dont need it on Ubuntu build servers.
[00:01] <eam> ki7mt: it appears the linking strategy was designed around eventually linking a C program, but I don't see how it works with perl/python dlopen()ing a stub
[00:02] <eam> ki7mt: the thing is, the resulting object won't link because some of the libraries it requires aren't added as DT_NEEDED
[00:02] <ki7mt> eam, I've not narrowed down the exact root cause, but the work around for me is to leave it out on the linker for Ubuntu servers.
[00:03] <eam> I think I have a handle on exactly what's going on, but what I can't understand is the intent behind the change (that Natty doc is where the change occured)
[00:03] <ki7mt> eam, I like all the libs ins ${LIBS} lin -lpthread -lportaudio etc etc, then let call ${LIBS} on the target line,
[00:03] <ki7mt> I link .. ..
[00:04] <eam> ki7mt: yeah, the specific toolchain change (from that natty doc) is that -lfoo is now ignored in certain cases
[00:04] <eam> the doc recommends simply reordering the args to gcc, but that's less than useful when dealing with a large project with generated builds
[00:05] <ki7mt> eam, All the dupe links are ignored in Ubuntu, not so in Debian and it moans about it.
[00:05] <eam> yeah, the problem is these aren't dupe links in this case
[00:05] <eam> I end up with a so that never links my library
[00:06] <ki7mt> eam, That sounds like a different problem then.
[00:06] <eam> ki7mt: for example cc -lfoo bar.o -o something.so # on debian, won't put foo in DT_NEEDED
[00:07] <eam> but cc bar.o -osomething.so -lfoo # will
[00:07] <eam> passing in --no-as-needed turns off the weird ubuntu linker behavior
[00:07] <ki7mt> eam probably need ${LDFLAGS} in that line as it's a direct call v.s. an ${OBJ1} call or something.
[00:07] <eam> but the docs say not to do it so I'm trying to understand why :)
[00:08] <ki7mt> eam of couse,, the lib.so need to be built before hand.
[00:08] <eam> ki7mt: the thing is, this is output from perl's MakeMaker
[00:08] <eam> I don't control the argument ordering
[00:09] <eam> (and it works on literally every other unix in the world :)
[00:09] <ki7mt> eam, I can't speak to the Docs, and why they say what they do, only what I do on the different buod servers to get around the issue.
[00:09] <eam> ok
[00:09] <ki7mt> .. build servers ..
[00:09] <eam> yeah I have a workaround of -Wl,--no-as-needed
[00:09] <eam> it's just ... ubuntu docs say explicitly "don't do it"
[00:09] <eam> but if not that, what?
[00:10] <eam> I'm trying to understand if there's something more to this policy, or if it's just kinda broken
[00:10] <trism> eam: I think the fedora doc does a slightly better job explaining than the debian one http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UnderstandingDSOLinkChange
[00:10] <ki7mt> Yes, as ity's not neeed, but on Debian it is, but breaks apps like F2PY
[00:11] <ki7mt> trism, Be careful with Fedora, they have lots of issues still with LFS convensions, particularly with /lib /lib64 v.s. native and so on.
[00:12] <trism> ki7mt: yes but in this instance it is the same sort of change as made in debian a while ago
[00:13] <eam> trism: great doc, thanks. I think I understand the intent. In this case, what I need to do is ensure the right DT_NEEDED fields are populated in my shared object
[00:13] <eam> normally -lfoo means your shared object will need libfoo
[00:13] <ki7mt> trism, Was just a data point, using ldconfig is the only way to get that right cross platform.
[00:14] <eam> but in ubuntu, -lfoo no longer causes DT_NEEDED to need foo
[00:14] <ki7mt> eam, exatctly, the .so version not static
[00:14] <eam> ki7mt: well, the problem is the .so must do the loading for interpreted languages that dlopen stubs
[00:14] <eam> like python, perl, ruby
[00:15] <eam> for example you have mysql.so which backs the rubygem, and that mysql.so does the DT_NEEDED to libmysqlclient.so
[00:15] <eam> because "ruby" itself can't link everything, of course
[00:15] <eam> know what I mean?
[00:15] <ki7mt> eam, Yes, but I dont have a solution infortunately :-)
[00:15] <ki7mt> unfortunately
[00:16] <eam> fair enough, thanks for pitching in. I think a decent enough answer might be to revert to the normal linker behavior for all interpreted language modules
[00:16] <eam> as best I can see that's what existing ubuntu packages do
[00:17] <ki7mt> eam, Yes I'd agree. As a general rule, I've been build to make Debian servers happy, then Ubuntu omits what they don't need, seems to work ok.
[00:19] <ki7mt> eam, You could do some fancy foot work in the debian/rules file but not much need it it's not failing on UBuntu servers.
[00:19] <eam> I don't even usually do ubuntu platform, but I want to build this project on travis-ci ... you guys got a huge win by getting them to build on ubuntu :)
[00:19] <X2> fancy footwork
[00:20] <gadabout> is there a help file for the unbuntu packages of software how to compile them into zipes
[00:22] <x9> hello! any help for wlan on Xubuntu 14.04?
[00:28] <Sunstream> I knew I would have a problem with UBUNTU eventually
[00:28] <daswort> hi, i installed LXC and it's networking works without extra work via lxcbr0, but i can't find where it is defined, /etc/network/interfaces has no entry for lxcbr0.
[00:28] <Sunstream> How the bloody heck do I get Oracle Java to work (since DSLREPORTS favor them)
[00:29] <daswort> Whats your problem? Sunstream
[00:29] <Sunstream> I cannot get it to install and I do not want to mess with rpms/tars
[00:30] <Sunstream> Nevermind I will just go do a google search and figure it out myself thank you anyways
[00:30]  * Sunstream walks away
[00:31] <ki7mt> Sunstream, What does your project require, that's a better place to start, then go to the repos and find out if it's available.
[00:31] <daswort> Sunstream, there is a oracle-java-installer in the webupd8 ppa. But you can use the deb, you don't have to enable the whole ppa.
[00:32] <daswort> → http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/02/install-oracle-java-6-7-or-8-ubuntu-14-04/ Sunstream
[00:32] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Building from source or especially rpms should be considered a last resort.
[00:33] <Sunstream> yep that is why I DON
[00:33] <Sunstream> T want ot mess with that
[00:33] <daswort> Sunstream, just grep the .deb of the installer for the Java version you need: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[00:34] <perlon> Ubuntu server question:  I am new to ubuntu server.  I setup a dokuwiki on gentoo easily manually.  Ubuntu seemed to do it automatically, but now there is no documentation on how to fix the errors.
[00:34] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Well like ia said, you ned to determine 1), What project / Applications needs, 2). Is it available in the repos, then proceed from there.
[00:34] <Sunstream> the problem UNLESS I have oracle installed DSLReports sucks
[00:34] <perlon> Where can I find documentation on the the "automatic" install?
[00:35] <perlon> Or where can I find logs for the dokuwiki failures.
[00:35] <perlon> ?
[00:35] <ki7mt> perlon, As in UBuntu auto install ?
[00:35] <daswort> I can't find lxcbr0 in if-pre-up.d/ either. :(
[00:35] <perlon> apt-get install dokuwiki, and then dpkg-reconfigure
[00:36] <Sunstream> thanks anyways daswort I found this out before your reply. From this point on unless I have a real problem I will do searching on the wiki and google for my fixes ...
[00:36]  * Sunstream walks out of the channle and into offtopic
[00:36] <perlon> I have been struggling for several hours to try to figure out why I can't add users.  I am granting privileges to www-data all over the place, which is probably a security risk.
[00:37] <ki7mt> perlon, Based on Debian / Server, but should very close to UBuntu: https://wiki.debian.org/DokuWiki
[00:38] <perlon> ki7mt: I read that, but must be missing something.
[00:39] <ki7mt> perlon, Maybe someone else then, as that's what I would follow.
[00:40] <perlon> ki7mt: thanks.  I assume that granting www-data group and owner is all I need.
[00:44] <Sunstream> ki7mt, I have to just download the whole thing I have plenty of space I just need Oracle to use DSLReports tools they seem to favor oracle I installed the other java and it did not work so I just got done installing JRE 7
[00:46] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Yes, openjdk-7-jre is in the repos also.
[01:04] <LapJup3> Beldar: did you ever hang out in #dos on efnet?
[01:05] <Foxhoundz> does anyone have experience using this WiFi card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106190
[01:05] <Foxhoundz> It disconnects constantly on Linux
[01:06] <Beldar> no
[01:11] <x9> so I'm running Xubuntu 14.04 and the wi-fi is saying it's connected, but I can't access the Internet.
[01:17] <Foxhoundz> x9: try pinging your gateway
[01:17] <morrisonluke> x9: Have you checked your DNA
[01:17] <x9> what's the command for that? it can't be "ping", can it? Foxhoundz
[01:18] <x9> morrisonluke, I don't know what my mom and dad have to do with it
[01:18] <morrisonluke> x9: DNS
[01:19] <x9> morrisonluke: all well on the DNS side
[01:20] <morrisonluke> x9: Open up a terminal and type ifconfig to find your gateway
[01:21] <x9> should mention I'll have to take notes, reboot, then check and reboot again if needed... I'm in Windows right now, dualbooting it and xubuntu
[01:22] <perlon> I am new to ubuntu.  I can't figure out what is wrong with my dokuwiki install.  It seems like a problem with the way it is installed by the system.  Any idea who I can ask?  Dokuwiki IRC is low traffic.
[01:23] <bdbear> Perlon try https://launchpad.net/
[01:23] <perlon> Thanks
[01:23] <bdbear> yw
[01:27] <andlabs> Hi. Is there a way I can query the size of a /dev/sd# file without using fdisk or gfdisk? preferably something that runs in user mode. Thanks.
[01:27] <syntroPi> everytime i start synaptic it locks up totally unresponsive and frozen for either several seconds or completely and i have to kill it Is this a known bug in Trusty?
[01:29] <andlabs> syntroPi: yes, synaptic does take several seconds to start up; I have one VM configuration where it takes much longer but I can't explain it
[01:31] <syntroPi> it takes way longer than several seconds everytime i change the smallest setting i get the "nonresponsive" window...
[01:32] <syntroPi> my i7 860 used to be way faster with synaptic in versions before trusty
[01:33] <syntroPi> i tried reinstalling it without any success
[01:36] <histo> syntroPi: apt-get install foo   have you tried that?
[01:38] <lukemorrison> x9: Were you able to find / ping your gateway in Xubuntu?
[01:39] <x9> luke morrison: about to attempt. be back in a few minutes (I was looking at forums online for more fixes to try)
[01:40] <syntroPi> histo im not sure what you mean but there is no such package for sure
[01:40] <syntroPi> apt-get or just apt doesnt have any latency issues
[01:40] <histo> syntroPi: I'm saying why use synaptic?
[01:42] <syntroPi> because it was quite usefull and fast in my experience with previous ubuntu versions
[01:42] <syntroPi> is there any gui alternatives with similar options to synaptic except the ubuntu software center?
[01:45]  * histo prefers text interface
[01:46] <lukemorrison> syntroPi:  Try the muon software center.  I think it's in the Ubuntu repositories
[01:47] <syntroPi> when its frozen dbus-daemon, gnome-shell and synaptic fight over the cpu ressources
[01:48] <histo> syntroPi: try launching synaptic from a terminal to view the output
[01:49] <histo> syntroPi: or see if it has a verbose option or logging on the interface
[01:52] <Locke2002> Hi. Today I switched out my router with a different one with the same wireless settings (security, access point name, etc). My Ubuntu laptop connects to it and works ok for awhile (10-20 minutes?) and then the wireless stops responding. I have to disable/enable wifi, or unplug/replug the usb wifi card to get it to reconnect and continue working until it happens again. Any suggestions on where to start
[01:52] <Locke2002> looking? Log files?
[01:53] <syntroPi> Locke2002, look at "dmesg" in the terminal maybe?
[01:56] <Beldar> Locke2002, I would check the routers signal, must have a adjustment on board.
[01:57] <Locke2002> Beldar: All the other household wifi devices are working perfectly, if that helps.
[01:58] <Beldar> Locke2002, Just saying where I would start.
[01:59] <bdbear> find out why you time out. (look in the router error logs, as well on the machine that times out.)
[01:59] <bdbear> wirless is a tricky biz, it can be all kinda of crazy stuff that makes you lose connection
[02:04] <Locke2002> k, I'll see what I can find. Thanks people.
[02:22] <x9> alright, I'm at the point where I will give 1/4 of my money to whoever helps me solve my problem
[02:23] <Foxhoundz> x9: yes ping
[02:23] <Foxhoundz> :)
[02:25] <x9> basically, I can connect to my Wi-Fi access point, but I don't get internet access. Router says I'm connected and active, but I'm not getting any access. Firefox fails to connect, Xchat doesn't connect. Router is set properly, Wi-Fi adapter settings set properly (probably), but still a fail. could it be drivers?
[02:25] <x9> ...could rebooting the gateway solve this problem?
[02:26] <bdbear> ehh.. yea;)
[02:26] <bdbear> are you able to connect using cable?
[02:26] <Foxhoundz> x9: have you tried connecting with another PC/phone?
[02:27] <x9> bdbear: yes, ethernet works. Foxhoundz: I'm using the same computer on Windows to talk right now, everything works except XUbuntu
[02:27] <Foxhoundz> ok
[02:27] <Foxhoundz> good
[02:27] <x9> this is a clean install of xubuntu
[02:27] <Foxhoundz> My guess is a misconfiguration with your DNS settings
[02:28] <x9> how would I go about configuring it properly?
[02:28] <bdbear> how far can you ping, when your connected (wifi)
[02:29] <x9> bdbear: as in distance from the access point?
[02:29] <bdbear> can you ping google (<IP_ADDRESS>) the gateway? your self?
[02:29] <brasileiro> hi guys, there's a problem that's bugging me for a while now... my fan keeps activating in waves, each 10s more or less.. during its activation my ubuntu (14.04) lags, this is more frequent when I'm watching a movie... it seems that after the installation of the bumblebee (nvidia) the lags are less powerful... I was wondering if anyone would have ANY idea for me to start searching about this problem...
[02:29] <Sunstream> Okay
[02:29] <Sunstream> I got Java wokin in F.Fox but not Chromium where I want it to work
[02:30] <x9> bdbear: what is the ping command? is it like windows, just ping <address>?
[02:30] <bdbear> yea
[02:30] <rainbowwarrior> hello
[02:30] <lastarms> hello rainbowwarrior
[02:30] <x9> Foxhoundz: how would I reconfigure DNS properly?
[02:30] <rainbowwarrior> hello lasers
[02:31] <rainbowwarrior> oops tab fail lol
[02:31] <rainbowwarrior> hello lastarms
[02:31] <bdbear> you need to find out what your issue are before you start fixing it x9.
[02:31] <Foxhoundz> x9: you shouldn't have to normally. I was just wondering if it might be the cause
[02:31] <Foxhoundz> try pinging the IP of the router itself
[02:31] <Foxhoundz> should be something like <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:32] <x9> bdbear: taking notes of as many things as I can before rebooting and attempting a fix
[02:32] <rainbowwarrior> hi all , I am using a TL-WN821N_V4 on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and i can see other networks apart from my own but i can see it on windows fine , anyone got any idea how i can solve this please ?
[02:32] <Foxhoundz> rainbowwarrior: is it a 5ghz network?
[02:32] <bdbear> if you can connect to your computer using a cable do that. you can still trubbleshoot connectivity issues . and talk to us at the same time.
[02:33] <rainbowwarrior> Foxhoundz :- no
[02:34] <x9> BRB, rebooting and going to the ethernet cable
[02:35] <lukemorrison> rainbowwarrior: Does your network broadcast its SSID?
[02:36] <rainbowwarrior> Foxhoundz :- its 2.4ghz
[02:36] <rainbowwarrior> yes lukemorrison
[02:36] <Sunstream> sorry was afk
[02:36] <Sunstream> scrolling ab ck
[02:37] <lukemorrison> rainbowwarrior:  What about rebooting the router? or manually adding the network?
[02:37] <Sunstream> Okay so no one has a solution how to get the Java to work for Chromium (It works for F.Fox but I don't like  using it due to the bug with the URL
[02:38] <rainbowwarrior> lukemorrison :- tried that and still no luck
[02:38] <bdbear> sunstream have you checked http://stackexchange.com/sites for an Q&A?
[02:38] <lukemorrison> rainbowwarrior:  Which one?
[02:38] <rainbowwarrior> lukemorrison :- rebooting the router and manually adding the network
[02:39] <Ben64> rainbowwarrior: try changing the settings... no encryption, wep, other settings
[02:39] <lukemorrison> rainbowwarrior: It's not hidden behind "More Networks"?
[02:39] <Sunstream> what is that site........
[02:40] <rainbowwarrior> Ben64 :- ok ty
[02:40] <Sunstream> a super search engine or something
[02:40] <rainbowwarrior> lukemorrison :- no
[02:40] <Sunstream> it shows me a lot of sites
[02:40] <bdbear> its an Question and answeres community.
[02:41] <Ben64> Sunstream: chromium doesn't allow java anymore
[02:42] <Sunstream> Oh
[02:42] <Sunstream> why? Google?
[02:42] <x9> alright, patched in with ethernet
[02:43] <bdbear> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1308783 (read the comments)
[02:43] <Ben64> Sunstream: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chromium-dev/xEbgvWE7wMk
[02:43] <OerHeks> Java (IcedTea) doesn't have a PPAPI plugin available, and so it's not usable in Chromium, since Chromium 34 in Trusty has switched to the Aura rendering framework and no longer allows NPAPI plugins. See also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1308783.
[02:43] <bdbear> ill pm you x9.
[02:43] <lukemorrison> x9: Open up a terminal and type in ifconfig
[02:43] <Foxhoundz> how do I set the TX-power on my WiFi?
[02:43] <Foxhoundz> I'm getting terrible reception and it keeps dropping the signal
[02:44] <lukemorrison> Foxhoundz: are you using stock firmware?
[02:44] <Foxhoundz> lukemorrison: it's an Intel 7260HMW IEEE 802.11AC, dual-band, 2x2 Wi-Fi
[02:44] <Foxhoundz> so I guess it's using Intel's open source drivers
[02:45] <Foxhoundz> which are baked into the kernel
[02:45] <Foxhoundz> if that's what you're asking
[02:45] <lukemorrison> Foxhoundz: I was actually talking about the router
[02:45] <Foxhoundz> lukemorrison: you have the wrong guy
[02:45] <Foxhoundz> but It's using CIsco
[02:46] <Foxhoundz> oh
[02:46] <Foxhoundz> OH
[02:46] <Foxhoundz> yes
[02:46] <Foxhoundz> The router is using the stock Cisco firmware
[02:46] <Foxhoundz> DD-WRT is unstable
[02:46] <Sunstream> so Chromium is useless lol
[02:46] <Ben64> Sunstream: if you really need that buggy unsecure plugin, then for you, yes
[02:47] <Foxhoundz> lukemorrison: I should add that this card gets 5-bar excellent reception under Windows
[02:47] <Ben64> "bar" is not a measure of signal strength
[02:47] <Foxhoundz> but drops constantly on ubuntu
[02:47] <Foxhoundz> well
[02:47] <lukemorrison> Foxhoundz: I don't know then.  Have you gone through all the settings in the Cisco firmware?  I know Linksys would not allow for increasing Tx power
[02:47] <Foxhoundz> I can't tell you the SNR value off the top of my head
[02:48] <Sunstream> -_-
[02:48] <Foxhoundz> Sunstream: -_-
[02:48] <Sunstream> The biggest issue I have right now is the addressbar in firefox
[02:49] <Ben64> Sunstream: go on...
[02:49] <Sunstream> I look at the "Aura" stuff it is buggy, hehe like all new technology
[02:50] <Sunstream> Well the bug in firefox is, in the addressbar it is like someone took a sharpie and marked the text out
[02:50] <Ben64> Foxhoundz: maybe try something like this?
[02:50] <Ben64> Foxhoundz: http://zeroset.mnim.org/2014/04/22/unstable-wifi-connection-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-ctrl-event-disconnected-reason4-locally_generated1/
[02:51] <Jeffrey_f> Foxhoundz: I arrived mid-conversation.  If you increase the Tx power, you can overdrive the transmitter and make things worse rather than better.  Much like driving too much power through a speaker.....
[02:51] <Sunstream> If I can find a fix for that
[02:51] <Ben64> Sunstream: then fix that? a screenshot may help
[02:51] <Sunstream> hold onm
[02:52] <Foxhoundz> Ben64: it looks like iwlwifi is not found
[02:52] <Foxhoundz> when calling modprobe -r iwlwifi
[02:52] <Foxhoundz> using the guide you pasted
[02:52] <Ben64> Foxhoundz: well which driver is being used for it
[02:53] <Foxhoundz> good question. I have no idea how to find that out on Linux
[02:53] <Sunstream> I am ok with operating guis but how do I take a screenshot?
[02:53] <Foxhoundz> I tried modprobe -ls
[02:53] <lukemorrison> Foxhoundz: lspci
[02:53] <Sunstream> pring screen? ctrl+PrtSc
[02:54] <Foxhoundz> output: 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev 73)
[02:54] <Ben64> Foxhoundz: lsmod
[02:54] <Foxhoundz> there we go!
[02:54] <Foxhoundz> that was what I was looking for
[02:54] <Ben64> Foxhoundz: just pastebin it all
[02:54] <Foxhoundz> lsmod
[02:54] <Ben64> Foxhoundz: and which version of ubuntu
[02:55] <Foxhoundz> 14.04
[02:55] <Foxhoundz> well
[02:55] <Foxhoundz> ok I lied >_>
[02:55] <Foxhoundz> It's Linux Mint
[02:55] <Ben64> boo
[02:55] <Ben64> get out of here
[02:55] <Foxhoundz> but they're practically the same
[02:55] <Ben64> nope
[02:55] <Ben64> !mint | Foxhoundz
[02:55] <Sunstream> How do I do a screen cap
[02:55] <Foxhoundz> oh god
[02:55] <Foxhoundz> they've ratted me out
[02:55] <Ben64> Sunstream: hit the print screen button
[02:56] <Foxhoundz> anyway here is the lsmod output http://laravel.io/bin/MdVvQ
[02:56] <Ben64> Foxhoundz: don't care
[02:56] <Ben64> don't play the channel like that
[02:56] <Foxhoundz> But but
[02:56] <Ben64> nope
[02:56] <Foxhoundz> I'm so close!
[02:56]  * Foxhoundz whimpers
[02:56] <rww> Foxhoundz: #debian is for Debian, not derivatives like Ubuntu. #ubuntu is for Ubuntu, not derivatives like Mint. Mint has their own channels for a reason.
[02:57] <rww> We don't know what changes Mint makes, just like Debian doesn't know what changes we make.
[02:57] <rww> And it's not fair to use the support resources of another distro, especially when it involves lying to them.
[02:57] <rww> Part of what you should consider when you choose a distro is available support. If Mint's support isn't good enough for you, I suggest finding another distro.
[02:57] <Foxhoundz> I didn't lie. THis was the first time he asked me what distro I was using
[02:58] <Beldar> Foxhoundz, You know this support issue already'
[02:58] <Foxhoundz> OK. Say I was running Ubuntu and I encounter this problem
[02:58] <Ben64> nope
[02:58] <Foxhoundz> What course of action should I take?
[02:58] <rww> Foxhoundz: No. Go talk to the Mint folks.
[02:58] <Foxhoundz> :(
[02:59] <Sunstream> okay
[02:59] <Foxhoundz> Fine. I'll just live CD an Ubuntu distro
[02:59] <Sunstream> Now I figured it out
[02:59] <Foxhoundz> and then I'll get your sweet sweet tech support
[03:00]  * waver ponder
[03:00] <Sunstream> okay now I did a screencap how do I send it to you do I have upload it to a server
[03:00] <Foxhoundz> they're structurally Identical in terms of kernel versions and most of the packages
[03:00] <Ben64> Sunstream: yeah, imgur.com or whichever other one you may prefer
[03:00] <rww> Foxhoundz: are you going to continue to debate this or are you going to go to your distro's support channel?
[03:01] <Foxhoundz> ok :(
[03:01] <Foxhoundz> what is their room called here?
[03:01] <Ben64> #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[03:01] <rww> #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[03:01] <rww> they're not on freenode because they're weird
[03:01] <Foxhoundz> oh god
[03:01] <Foxhoundz> please don't make me do this
[03:02] <Sunstream> Okay printscreen isnt working
[03:04] <Ben64> Sunstream: on my system it actually saves a picture into ~/Pictures
[03:04] <Sunstream> Oh it automatically makes it
[03:04] <Sunstream> I do not have to paste
[03:04] <Sunstream> now I feel foolish
[03:05] <William> add my Skype william.conna
[03:05] <Ben64> Sunstream: don't worry about it, the function is different from windows :)
[03:06] <Sunstream> hold on
[03:06] <Sunstream> let me upload this to my google account
[03:13] <waver> how to  paste text from host when using ubuntu server in virtualbox under win7?
[03:13] <CrazyZurfer> When the number of windows of a program changes.. the number of dots in the launcher don't change inmediatly.. I have to click on the icon in order to see it change.. happens when opening new windows and closign :/
[03:14] <Beldar> !pastebinit | waver from server
[03:14] <Sunstream> Okay https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2SuH8JTYEApY0k1TVhIeVBjMzg <----- look
[03:14] <Sunstream> that is what I see in the address bar of firefox
[03:14] <Beldar> waver, Where is the text from windows or the server?
[03:15] <vbgunz> man, I've tried qtsixa a while ago and it sucked. today, it just worked and I got 2 dualshocks simultaneously connected to one dongle and had a great time through steam playing battleblocks theatre. I ran into an issue though, "Metro Last Light" has the most insane button mapping that doesn't make any sense.Anyone have any luck making a qtsixa dualshock take on an XBox controller mapping?
[03:16] <Ben64> Sunstream: try changing browser.urlbar.formatting.enabled to false
[03:16] <waver> when I want to past some bash script from my windows notepad to ubuntu shell, I found a waring " need x-service.'
[03:17] <Sunstream> okay whos idea at Mozilla to do that
[03:17] <waver> but I use ubuntu server only.
[03:18] <Ben64> Sunstream: did that fix it
[03:18] <Sunstream> Nope
[03:18] <Ben64> Sunstream: then try changing gfx.xrender.enabled to false
[03:19] <Foxhoundz> Ben64: this problem also affects Ubuntu
[03:19] <Foxhoundz> care to lend a hand now? -.^
[03:19] <Ben64> Foxhoundz: nope
[03:20] <Sunstream> okay falsed
[03:20] <Sunstream> yay
[03:21] <Ben64> !yay | Sunstream
[03:21] <Sunstream> what is wrong with that
[03:21] <Sunstream> let me reenable the formatting
[03:21] <Ben64> Sunstream: i think its certain video cards or something, because i have no problems here
[03:21] <Sachiru> What the hell?
[03:21] <Sachiru> Why was I kicked?
[03:21] <Sunstream> well then agaiun
[03:22] <Ben64> Sachiru: probably better to ask in #ubuntu-ops
[03:22] <Sachiru> Why was I kicked from ##ubuntu?
[03:22] <Sunstream> i have a crappy intel extreme(ly crappy)
[03:22] <Ben64> Sunstream: makes sense
[03:22] <Sunstream> yay
[03:23] <Sunstream> I canuse the formatting now I can help others
[03:23] <Sunstream> i think I need to contact the mozilla team and suggest they make a work around or a detector of somesort that they can enable based on gfx card
[03:24] <Sunstream> Now that Firefox is fixed
[03:24] <Sunstream> I will use this as primary brower
[03:24] <Ben64> Sunstream: probably too much work for them, idk though
[03:25] <Sunstream> oh come on they been working on netscape com... err Firefox for a long time lol
[03:26] <Sunstream> Another question I want to use firefox to open urls in Xchat but for some reason it keeps opening "browser"
[03:27] <Sunstream> I do not want to use WEBKIT I want to use Firefox
[03:28] <YokoBR> Guys, isso can't boot after update
[03:28] <YokoBR> I
[03:28] <YokoBR> *
[03:28] <Beldar> YokoBR, What ubuntu release?
[03:29] <YokoBR> Seems to be a problem with sound
[03:29] <YokoBR> Saucy, i guess
[03:29] <Beldar> YokoBR, Give some relative details
[03:30] <Sunstream> the problem with webkit is it shows buttons messed up a lil
[03:32] <YokoBR> Beldar, i'll try to send a picture
[03:36] <Sunstream> grumble
[03:36] <histo> Sunstream: set firefox as your default browser then
[03:36] <Sunstream> I did
[03:37] <Sunstream> I am just gonna uninstall that browser
[03:38] <histo> Sunstream: ok or you can just configure your mime types
[03:38] <Sunstream> I can open it in firefox in mIRC
[03:38] <YokoBR_> Problem is with snd_hda_Intel
[03:39] <YokoBR_> How can i disable it on boot?
[03:39] <YokoBR_> Disable snd_hda_Intel on grub
[03:39] <Sunstream> darn it
[03:40] <Sunstream> if I uninstall the browser it uninstalls all the other stuff
[03:40] <Sunstream> gee
[03:40] <histo> Sunstream: xdg-mime query default x-scheme-handler/http
[03:41] <Sunstream> that a shell command?
[03:41] <histo> Sunstream: yeah what is the output of it
[03:42] <YokoBR_> Please,  i need to disable snd_hda_Intel
[03:42] <YokoBR_> On grub
[03:42] <histo> YokoBR_: blacklist it
[03:42] <histo> !blacklist | YokoBR_
[03:42] <nexus> Hello every one
[03:42] <histo> hola nexus
[03:42] <YokoBR_> How?
[03:42] <YokoBR_> I cant boot
[03:42] <YokoBR_> I cant boooot
[03:43] <histo> YokoBR_: boot the installation media and edit the /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist.conf
[03:43] <Ben64> YokoBR_: yeah we got that. why do you think its snd_hda_intel's fault?
[03:43] <catalase> can anyone help me give myself full read/write access to my entire system? i've setup ssh/sftp connection, but some directory listings are denied lol
[03:43] <YokoBR_> Because its whre The erros appears
[03:43] <Ben64> catalase: thats for security, don't change that
[03:43] <Ben64> YokoBR_: which error
[03:43] <catalase> Ben64, how about full READ access then
[03:44] <Ben64> catalase: how about you say what you really want to do
[03:44] <YokoBR_> Lets see
[03:44] <catalase> Ben64, i've created a folder in the root directory with my ssh rsa keys
[03:44] <catalase> access is denied
[03:44] <catalase> lol
[03:44] <histo> catalase: work in your users directory
[03:45] <catalase> i chmod it to 700
[03:45] <Linot> I'm installed xubuntu ~~
[03:45] <histo> catalase: or correct the permissions of your other directory
[03:45] <YokoBR_> Fixing recursive fault,  reboot is needed
[03:45] <histo> YokoBR_: what?
[03:45] <Ben64> catalase: you really should be doing things in your home directory
[03:45] <catalase> ok will try tthis
[03:45] <YokoBR_> Perf samples todo long
[03:45] <catalase> Ben64, how come
[03:45] <Ben64> catalase: because thats your home directory...
[03:46] <histo> catalase: you own it, it's your directory to do whatever in.
[03:46] <catalase> Ben64, sure but it's my server
[03:46] <YokoBR_> Nmi handler Perf_evento_Nmi_handler took too long
[03:46] <histo> catalase: what are you trying to accomplish?  What's the end goal?
[03:46] <catalase> histo, do i not own the entire contents of the drive though?
[03:46] <YokoBR_> 111.896 ms
[03:46] <YokoBR_> And died
[03:46] <Sunstream> That dont work
[03:46] <Ben64> catalase: root does
[03:46] <histo> catalase: It's setup this way as a security measure.
[03:47] <YokoBR_> Frozen
[03:47] <histo> catalase: linux is not windows
[03:47] <histo> !paste | YokoBR_
[03:47] <Sunstream> have to install it
[03:47] <histo> Sunstream: what don't work?
[03:48] <Ben64> histo: Sunstream is using x/lubuntu ... don't know if the defaults are set a different way there
[03:48] <YokoBR_> Im not pasting,  im on a cellphone, i cant boot
[03:48] <Sunstream> oops mime not mine
[03:48] <histo> Sunstream: yes.
[03:48] <Sunstream> ouput
[03:48] <histo> Ben64: xdg-mime is independent of desktop
[03:48] <Sunstream> firefox.desktop
[03:48] <Ben64> histo: good to know
[03:48] <Sunstream> its X-chat being stupid
[03:49] <Linot> what are you talking about?~~
[03:49] <histo> Sunstream: appears that way.
[03:49] <Guest93334> is this chat good for Linux mint 17
[03:49] <Sunstream> so now I gotta look for a way to fix that
[03:49] <histo> Guest93334: no
[03:49] <Ben64> !mint | Guest93334
[03:49] <histo> Sunstream: what desktop environment are you in?
[03:49] <Sunstream> lubuntu
[03:50] <catalase> the question is, why can't i access the .ssh folder in my home directory?
[03:50] <catalase> it is set as drwx
[03:50] <Sunstream> i have low sys specs (old Dell Ispiron 1100)
[03:50] <catalase> oh, it says owner is root root
[03:50] <histo> Sunstream: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[03:50] <Sunstream> no its xchat
[03:50] <histo> catalase: that's why
[03:50] <Sunstream> I gotta find the right handler
[03:51] <histo> Sunstream: did you try the update-alternatives command?
[03:51] <catalase> histo, do i just chown user /directory/?
[03:51] <histo> catalase: chown username:groupname /some/directory
[03:51] <histo> catalase: should match the perms of your /home/username username and groupname
[03:51] <Ben64> catalase: so the .ssh folder in your home directory was owned by root?
[03:52] <catalase> ya, fixed that
[03:52] <catalase> thx u
[03:52] <histo> catalase: why are you trying to put files in .ssh directory anyways?
[03:52] <Ben64> catalase: you should be much more careful with permissions and sudo in general
[03:52] <Ben64> catalase: especially on a server, bad permissions could end up with your box compromised
[03:52] <catalase> histo, not trying to put them. i generated my rsa keys and they went into root/.ssh
[03:53] <catalase> then randomly some folder was created in my home directory called .ssh
[03:53] <dhana> hello i cannot update my xubuntu completely ,how to fix it
[03:53] <catalase> but is empty
[03:53] <histo> catalase: did you use sudo to generate your keys?
[03:53] <Ari-Yang> how come I can't send files from cell phone to laptop via bluetooth? on my cell phone it said that device not supported.... yet I can send stuff from my laptop to my cell phone via BT just fine.
[03:53] <histo> Sunstream: try in #lubuntu
[03:53] <catalase> histo, probably
[03:53] <Ari-Yang> am I missing something?
[03:53] <histo> catalase: well dont' do that.
[03:54] <Sunstream> getting closer to fixing it
[03:54] <Ari-Yang> oh and when I try to 'Browse' the cell phone after connecting it via BT, I can't... Nothing happens when I click 'Browse' on the BT menu under System Settings
[03:55] <CrazyZurfer> When the number of windows of a program changes.. the number of dots in the launcher don't change inmediatly.. I have to click on the icon in order to see it change.. happens when opening new windows and closign :/
[03:56] <histo> Linot: Why are you pinging me?
[03:56] <Linot> ~
[03:56] <histo> Linot: ~?
[03:57] <Ari-Yang> home?
[03:58] <catalase> i should probably make the root password different from my user password then
[03:58] <histo> catalase: you shouldn't have a root password set
[03:58] <histo> !root | catalase
[03:59] <Linot> histo: sorry
[04:00] <Linot> i first used this software
[04:01] <catalase> histo, thanks for this link
[04:01] <catalase> histo, should one set a password for their RSA keys?
[04:05] <histo> catalase: it's up to you. Think of it this way. If someone gets your private key they won't ahve to crack password
[04:07] <histo> catalase: I don't use pass on mine, if I lose my private key I can just pull the plug...
[04:07] <histo> catalase: also check out ssh-copy-id for transfering your keys.
[04:13] <evanvarvell> i have now copied your link about root accounts and stapled it into my ubuntu complete refference book
[04:19] <Sunstream> I wish I can get it to work but XChat refuses to let me open urls in firefox
[04:20] <histo> Sunstream: did you update-alternatives yet?
[04:20] <Sunstream> I did
[04:21] <Sunstream> wait
[04:21] <histo> Sunstream: what does xdg-open http://www.ubuntu.com   use to open that link?
[04:21] <Sunstream> what do you mean update-altern
[04:22] <Sunstream> histro
[04:22] <Sunstream> its xchat
[04:22] <Sunstream> not firefox or anything
[04:22] <histo> Sunstream: open a terminal and type 'xdg-open http://www.ubuntu.com'   without quotes...  I am not superman I need time to type that
[04:25] <histo> Sunstream: copy and paste
[04:26] <Sunstream> it outputs selections 0 1 2 3
[04:26] <histo> Sunstream: yeah which one has a *
[04:27] <Sunstream> it is on 0
[04:27] <Sunstream> and says permission denied when I try to select firefox
[04:27] <histo> Sunstream: which browser is on the 0 line?
[04:27] <Sunstream> again
[04:27] <Sunstream> epiphany
[04:28] <Sunstream> I told you earlier the same thing that epiphany is being a forced default
[04:28] <histo> Sunstream: use sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[04:28] <histo> and change it to firefox
[04:28] <evanvarvell> so if i am a part of root user group then all messages and mail sent to root group i will receive?
[04:29] <Gorroth> hi
[04:29] <Sunstream> okay it is say manual mode does this mean epiphany can take over again
[04:30] <Gorroth> In ccsm, I've been able to change some of the switcher settings for when I press alt-tab, but is there some way to make Unity show a window's live preview as I'm switching through them all?  this way I can get a faster sense of the app I want to use (like on Windows 7)
[04:30] <histo> Sunstream: no
[04:30] <histo> Sunstream: it should work now
[04:30] <Sunstream> Now
[04:30] <Sunstream> lets see
[04:31] <Sunstream> Okay
[04:31] <Sunstream> That makes it a bit simpler it is now opening it but
[04:31] <Sunstream> I want to double click a link now it should work but it is so
[04:31] <Sunstream> slow
[04:32] <histo> What is slow?
[04:32] <Sunstream> I should be able to left click it twice and open the url like I can in mIRC however I can right click and click open in browser and it opens fast
[04:33] <Sunstream> I do not want epiphany on my system
[04:33] <Gorroth> I just Chrome and gmail
[04:33] <histo> Sunstream: So what is slow then if it's working?  The right clicking part. I'm confused
[04:34] <Sunstream> It is faster if I right click the link and click on open link in browser it opens faster
[04:34] <Sunstream> Xchat is wierd
[04:35] <histo> Sunstream: opens faster compared to what?
[04:35] <Sunstream> ...
[04:35] <histo> Am I the only one that is not following this?
[04:35] <Sunstream> double clicking
[04:35] <evanvarvell> y       ou         a   r e        be   i  n g h    ac k ed          if     i t       i     s     sl   o w
[04:35] <histo> Sunstream: No idea. I don't forsee there being a difference in the code
[04:35] <Sunstream> How do you open a link in your irc window? double click right?
[04:36] <histo> Sunstream: no.  Install Windows
[04:38] <Gorroth> should work then
[04:39] <Gorroth> also, don't use java
[04:39] <Sunstream> no
[04:39] <Gorroth> yes
[04:39] <Sunstream> I am NOT going to install Windows
[04:39] <histo> Gorroth: please stop
[04:39] <Sunstream> I just left windows
[04:39] <Gorroth> don't use java then
[04:39] <histo> Sunstream: so when you double left click a link in xchat it opens slower than if you right click and select open link?
[04:39]  * Sunstream boggles at Gorroth wondering if he is trolling.
[04:39] <Gorroth> a bit
[04:40] <Sunstream> yep
[04:40] <Gorroth> but really, dnt' use java
[04:40] <Sunstream> then what should I use?
[04:40] <Gorroth> C++
[04:40] <Sunstream> Mocha?
[04:40] <Sunstream> -_-
[04:40] <Sunstream> Now silly, I cannot control what websites use
[04:40] <Sunstream> its not a big deal
[04:40] <Sunstream> Chromium has its use so does firefox
[04:40] <Gorroth> You can send them the "Do Not Use Java" packet.
[04:41] <Gorroth> I hope it works
[04:41] <Sunstream> I could?  packet too?
[04:41] <Sunstream> wait nevermind I am done feeding trolls for the day
[04:41] <Gorroth> yeah
[04:41] <Gorroth> send all the anti-java packets we have
[04:41] <SirLagz> why would you not want to use java ? Java is the most awesomest best ! </sarcasm>
[04:42] <Sunstream> Sorry, Gorroth  you exceeded the troll feeding for the day thank you.
[04:42] <Gorroth> I only trust Steve Gibson's websites; they use HTML only
[04:42] <Sunstream> SirLagz, no Java actually sucks.
[04:42] <Gorroth> lol
[04:42] <Sunstream> it is about as secure as Flash
[04:42] <SirLagz> Sunstream: did you not notice the </sarcasm> tag ?
[04:42] <Sunstream> I like grc.com
[04:43] <Sunstream> Yep
[04:43] <Sunstream> I did a test on grc and I got a true Stealth passed :D
[04:43] <SirLagz> I use Java because I have to unfortunately
[04:43] <SirLagz> Otherwise I wouldn't touch it. ever.
[04:43] <Sunstream> same here SirLagz
[04:43] <Gorroth> Thankfully, Java is not something I have to use.
[04:44] <Gorroth> wait
[04:44] <Gorroth> nevermind
[04:44] <Gorroth> I do Android dev work
[04:44] <Gorroth> but
[04:44] <Gorroth> I do it in C++
[04:44] <SirLagz> Gorroth: lol
[04:44] <evanvarvell> in chrome go to settings the scroll to bottom then click advanced settings then under privacy click content settings then it is allow java script
[04:44] <taoism> hey, man, how can i use QQ in ubuntu?
[04:44] <Gorroth> some of it is in java, but the game engine is C++, thankfully
[04:44] <SirLagz> Gorroth: how do you do it in C++ ?
[04:44] <Gorroth> The android NDK
[04:44] <Sunstream> Gorroth, Actually I like android
[04:44] <SirLagz> Gorroth: ooh right.
[04:44] <SirLagz> Gorroth: forgot about that :D
[04:44] <Gorroth> :-)
[04:44] <Trever> is there anyone here that could possible help a linux noob get linux installed on my desk top
[04:45] <Gorroth> It's like a stripped down linux system... very stripped down
[04:45] <Gorroth> the NDK portion, I mean
[04:45] <SirLagz> I've always wanted to play with the NDK, but never had a reason to
[04:45] <SirLagz> The only apps I've made for Android, I've just used Java for
[04:45] <Gorroth> yeah
[04:45] <Beldar> Trever, What is it you don't understand?
[04:45] <histo> Trever: have you downloaded the iso?
[04:46] <Gorroth> we ported our game engine to android.  it has been running on pc, mac, and ios, and now androidt oo
[04:46] <Gorroth> took me and another guy 3 months to do it
[04:46] <SirLagz> nice nice
[04:46] <SirLagz> Gorroth: what game / game engine ?
[04:46] <Gorroth> ROBLOX
[04:46] <Sunstream> actually, I did predict that Linux smart phones would take off.
[04:46] <Sunstream> Android is close to it
[04:46] <SirLagz> Gorroth: ah k. haven't heard of that yet
[04:46] <Beldar> Gorroth, This is support can you take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:46] <Sunstream> I cannot waitr till ubuntu smartphpnes
[04:47] <Sunstream> smartphones*
[04:47] <Gorroth> SirLagz: just an mmo sandbox game :-)  check it out sometime (doesn't run on linux though): http://www.roblox.com
[04:47] <Gorroth> alright, i'm going to go chillax for a while
[04:48] <Sunstream> what in the world is this 'chillax' is it some cool nerd way of saying chilling
[04:48] <SirLagz> chill / relax
[04:48] <Trever> i have already built a usb for it and installed it on my laptop but when i try on my desktop i keep getting unable to find a medium containing live file
[04:48] <histo> Trever: do you have your desktop set to boot from usb?
[04:49] <Sunstream> ahh
[04:49] <Trever> yes
[04:49] <Sunstream> CHILl reLAX I get it
[04:49] <SirLagz> Sunstream: bingo
[04:50] <Sunstream> like how Square and Enix merge named them (saracastically) Squeenix (due to they used to be rival rpg game makers)
[04:50] <SirLagz> lol
[04:51] <SirLagz> I didn't realise Square Enix used to be two different companies
[04:51] <SirLagz> learn something new everyday
[04:52] <Sunstream> You..... did not know... are you a teenager /young adult? (late 90s?)
[04:52] <Ben64> #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat
[04:52] <histo> !ot
[04:52] <SirLagz> Ben64: sorry
[04:54]  * waver food
[04:55] <Sunstream> histro sorry for the speedy ways I was talking uninstalling. But I hated epiphany. I fixed it
[04:56] <Trever_> ok im back so back to getting this desktop to take ubuntu
[04:57] <Ben64> Trever_: insert cd/dvd/usb, follow installer?
[04:58] <Trever_> tried that keep getting unable to find meldium containing live file system
[04:59] <Trever_> *medium
[04:59] <bdbear> how can i fix it so acl settings are applied recursively
[04:59] <histo> Trever_: Is this the same usb you used to install the laptop?
[04:59] <Trever_> yes
[04:59] <histo> Trever_: how old is the desktop?
[05:01] <histo> Trever_: make sure the thumb drive you created still boots on the laptop, just to be sure something didn't happen to it.
[05:01] <Trever_> desktop is brand new i have had it since Jan.
[05:02] <Trever_> and i am currently rebuilding it to try a 32 bit version
[05:02] <Trever_> the usb
[05:02] <histo> Trever_: how much ram does the desktop have?
[05:03] <Trever_> 8gb
[05:03] <Trever_> ddr3 1600
[05:04] <Trever_> i know i shouldnt need the 32 bit version but im just trying it
[05:04] <histo> Trever_: a quick boot test in the laptop would be sufficient.
[05:06] <Trever_> alright il be back
[05:12] <Trever_> yep that worked on the laptop
[05:12] <Vivek_VC> I am getting the following warning message http://paste.ubuntu.com/7724785/
[05:12] <Sunstream> how do I change the priority of my default browser higher using that update-alternative?
[05:13] <Vivek_VC> What's the fix to the issue ?
[05:15] <histo> Trever_: interesting... Try booting something else from usb on the desktop I suppose. Or a different port
[05:15] <histo> Sunstream: There is no priority. Its either the default or it's not
[05:16] <histo> Vivek_VC: where are you getting it, and what are you trying to do when you receive it.
[05:16] <gr33n7007h> Sunstream, update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[05:16] <Vivek_VC> histo: I am getting this when I try an apt-get update
[05:17] <histo> Vivek_VC: any ppa's enabled?
[05:17] <Trever__> i hate my network adaptor on this laptop i dc
[05:17] <histo> Trever__: what chipset?
[05:18] <Trever__> like my mobo?
[05:18] <Ben64> Vivek_VC: pastebin the full output of "sudo apt-get update"
[05:18] <Sunstream>  it is ok I was wondering why one browser had a 85 priority and another had 40
[05:19] <TheLegace> hi guys im not sure what exactly to do i formatted my ubuntu setup
[05:19] <Vivek_VC> histo, How do I check if ppa's are enabled or not ?
[05:19] <TheLegace> and i dont know how to bring my fakeraid setup
[05:19] <bdbear> Vivek_VC: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[05:19] <TheLegace> bring back*
[05:19] <histo> Vivek_VC: do you know what a ppa is? have you ever used one?
[05:20] <alexjr__> hi guys, does anyone know how to fix the ugly ubuntu bootsplash after installing the prop. nvidia drivers?
[05:20] <histo> alexjr__: what's wrong with it?
[05:20] <Vivek_VC> Ben64, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7724816/
[05:21] <TheLegace> well hallelujah i figure it out
[05:21] <Ben64> Vivek_VC: that's not "apt-get update"...
[05:21] <Vivek_VC> histo, Yes, I think ppas are enabled. The puppet enterprise reposiotries are enabled.
[05:21] <TheLegace> sudo mdadm --assemble --scan
[05:21] <causative> I've noticed some difficulties typing parentheses over VNC, but it's inconsistent:  sometimes the parens type just fine, other times it takes several presses to make a paren
[05:21] <Vivek_VC> Ben64, it's upgrade
[05:21] <causative> and sometimes I press once but I get a repeating string of parens
[05:21] <Vivek_VC> update and upgrade
[05:21] <Ben64> Vivek_VC: ok... but i asked for update?
[05:21] <causative> what can I do to diagnose this problem?
[05:22] <Vivek_VC> I don't have that text, it has scrolled up.
[05:22] <Vivek_VC> Ben64, I don't have that text as it has scrolled up.
[05:22] <Trever__> the desktop is using the 990fxa-ud3 rev3
[05:22] <Ben64> Vivek_VC: then use pastebinit or output to a file or use sprunge or something else
[05:23] <bdbear> Vivek: nano /var/log/apt/term.log
[05:23] <Vivek_VC> bdbear, Thanks
[05:23] <bdbear> what happens if you do apt-get install puppetmaster-common ?
[05:24] <alexjr__> @histo it looks all messed up. it's low-res and the usual ubuntu dots etc. don't show up, but some text with OK checkmarks at the end.
[05:24] <bdbear> you might fix this by installing the missing packages. unless you get more errors. if thats the case then you might have some corrupted files.
[05:25] <causative> xev doesn't really tell me much beyond what I already know - sometimes it fails to report a keypress event for the paren key, sometimes it reports repeating events for a single press
[05:26] <histo> alexjr__: you could disable the splash. No idea why it'smessed up though.
[05:27] <Vivek_VC> Ben64, bdbear, histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7724830/
[05:27] <bdbear> vivek_vc did you try to apt-get install puppetmaster-common ?
[05:27] <Vivek_VC> histo, ppa is a personal archive. Yes, I've used it.
[05:28] <hunt> hey #ubuntu, my system appears to be idling at 3.5 GB of ram used... is this normal? should i be concerned?
[05:28] <hunt> scrath taht 3.9 GiB
[05:28] <hunt> out of 8
[05:28] <Ben64> hunt: yes normal, no concern
[05:28] <hunt> additionally 2 GiB of my swap is being used
[05:28] <Vivek_VC> bdbear, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7724832/
[05:28] <hunt> why is so much memory being used without any processes running?
[05:28] <hunt> or with minimal running
[05:28] <Vivek_VC> It says package is already installed.
[05:29] <Ben64> hunt: pastebin "free -m"
[05:29] <histo> !atemyram | hunt
[05:29] <Vivek_VC> I think while trying to uninstall Puppet enterprise manually some time back, I had deleted the files.
[05:29] <hunt> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7724834/
[05:30] <bdbear> Vivek_VC apt-get install --reinstall
[05:30] <Ben64> hunt: ok that looks strange
[05:30] <bdbear> if that works, then do it for all the 4 packages. and then try to run an apt-get upgrade.
[05:30] <Trever__> histo you have no idea?
[05:30] <hunt> histo: the second link is broken
[05:30] <hunt> Ben64: ... :'|
[05:31] <hunt> Ben64: how do i diagnose why so much is being used
[05:31] <histo> Trever__: I told you I would try a different bootable usb or different port
[05:31] <histo> hunt: the first link will explain your issue/ lack there of
[05:31] <hunt> histo: Ben64 says my free -m looks strange though
[05:31] <Vivek_VC> Ben64, bdbear, histo: Now puppet master common is installed.
[05:31] <Ben64> hunt: take a look at mine for comparison http://sprunge.us/gCeB
[05:31] <hunt> histo: yea i read it im just saying i think someone ought to fix the second link
[05:31] <Vivek_VC> bdbear, now puppet master-common has got installed.
[05:32] <bdbear> vivek_VC do that for the 3 other packages and then try to do an apt-get upgrade
[05:32] <histo> Trever__: try/test
[05:32] <Vivek_VC> Should I do the same for the other packages ?
[05:32] <Vivek_VC> ok
[05:32] <Trever__> tried both also tried xubuntu and linux mint all have the same issue
[05:32] <hunt> Ben64: why does mine look strange? youre using even more memory then me
[05:32] <Ben64> hunt: its weird that 1) you have so little cached and 2) your swap is so used
[05:32] <hunt> Ben64: i see... why would there be very little cached?
[05:32] <hunt> and yea i dont understand my swap usage
[05:32] <hunt> Ben64: could it just be relative to the total swap size?
[05:33] <Ben64> hunt: cache is what the links that histo gave you are about. linux uses unused memory for cache to speed things up, its a good thing, and usually where memory goes to
[05:33] <histo> !who > alexjr__
[05:33] <Ben64> hunt: oh maybe, didn't notice that you had a 8GB swap
[05:33] <hunt> Ben64: yea i read the links but why would i under-cache
[05:33] <Ben64> hunt: have you used anything designed to free up memory
[05:33] <hunt> Ben64: nope, should i?
[05:33] <Ben64> hunt: no
[05:34] <hunt> Ben64: are you thinking those programs move it to the swap?
[05:34] <Ben64> hunt: they do often times, yes
[05:34] <hunt> Ben64: ah what a clever trick
[05:35] <hunt> Ben64: the only reason i ask is because i was getting wierd lags opening new tabs and such in firefox, it was using 1.3 GB of memory at the time
[05:35] <hunt> weird
[05:35] <hunt> also is there a reason people still use firefox besides fear of google?
[05:35] <histo> hunt: was there pages with flash content?
[05:35] <Ben64> hunt: pastebin "ps aux | sort -b -k 4 | tail"
[05:35] <hunt> i find the chrome environment mostly much more comfortable, and for some reason javascript always runs faster in chorme
[05:35] <Vivek_VC> bdbear, I have done that.
[05:35] <hunt> histo: the second one just 404sa
[05:36] <bdbear> vivek_VC did you manage to upgrade your system now?
[05:36] <Vivek_VC> Yes.
[05:36] <Vivek_VC> I did not get those warning messages.
[05:36] <bdbear> cool, then it were some corrupted files. its most likely fixed.
[05:36] <Vivek_VC> bdbear, Yes, I did not get those warning messages.
[05:36] <Trever__> histo if responded to me i might have missed it i dc again sorry
[05:36] <Vivek_VC> bdbear, Thanks.
[05:37] <bdbear> vivek_VC yw
[05:37] <histo> Trever__: I was saying to try a different port or different bootable thumb drive.
[05:37] <hunt> Ben64: idk if i want to share that data publicly, but if you want to know it loks like the only significant user of memory is X, which is taking ~30% cpu and memory
[05:37] <bdbear> anyone who know how you can force FilePermissionsACLs to automatically update subfolders?
[05:37] <Ben64> hunt: the command i gave you has the big memory users on the bottom
[05:38] <hunt> Ben64: right, weirdly firefox is listed below X despite only running at 1.6% MEM, while X is a hefty 30%
[05:38] <hunt> sorry, 3.3%
[05:38] <hunt> Ben64: i think the sort algorithm is actually not comparing the floats
[05:39] <hunt> Ben64: and just doing the dictionary style sortiung
[05:40] <histo> bdbear: They should be by default. What is happening?
[05:41] <causative> it seems that X11 forwarding is much faster for text programs like GUI emacs than vnc is
[05:41] <causative> but much slower for graphical programs like a browser
[05:42] <histo> bdbear: what are you trying to accomplish
[05:42] <bdbear> histo: Apache, userdir. file permissions.
[05:42] <histo> bdbear: for which user or group?
[05:44] <histo> bdbear: do you have acl turned on ?
[05:44] <bdbear> yes
[05:44] <histo> bdbear: mount | grep acl
[05:45] <bdbear> no its not turned on
[05:45] <histo> bdbear: well kind of hard to use if it's not enabled
[05:45] <histo> bdbear: edit your fstab and add acl as a mount option
[05:46] <bdbear> histo:  I did that, but i think i did something wrong there.
[05:46] <histo> bdbear: what do you mean?
[05:47] <bdbear> histo: mount: /home not mounted or bad option
[05:47] <bdbear> histo: when doing sudo mount -o remount /home
[05:47] <histo> bdbear: pastebin your fstab
[05:49] <bdbear> histo: http://pastebin.com/4JwsUgS3
[05:49] <Ben64> so many /homes
[05:49] <bdbear> one are removed.
[05:50] <histo> wth
[05:50] <bdbear> ?
[05:50] <histo> bdbear: why do you have two home lines
[05:50] <histo> bdbear: pastebin the output of mount
[05:50] <Ben64> why did you make up a uuid
[05:50] <bdbear> theres only one.
[05:50] <Ben64> thats not your uuid
[05:50] <Ben64> do you even have a home partition?
[05:52] <Ben64> the suspense is killing me, i can't wait for the explanation
[05:53] <bdbear> ben64: histro: im just following the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs#References. point to point. But atleast now i know were my mistakes are made;)
[05:53] <power> anyone know what explorer can i use with ubuntu...????
[05:54] <Ben64> bdbear: i know you were following that, because you COPIED THE UUID!
[05:54] <bdbear> power: http://www.tuxarena.com/2011/06/20-file-managers-for-ubuntu/ that might help
[05:54] <histo> bdbear: remove the home line completely from your fstab
[05:54] <bdbear> histo: and?
[05:54] <histo> bdbear: Why are you trying to impliment acl?
[05:54] <power> anyone know what explorer can i use with ubuntu...????
[05:55] <histo> power: explorer as in internet explorer?
[05:55] <Guido1> hello, i upgraded from xubuntu 12.04 to 14.04. the starmenu stayed the same wheras i have a different one if i do a fresh instal. how can i decide between the menues?
[05:55] <power> anyone speak spanish?
[05:55] <histo> !es | power
[05:56] <histo> bdbear: please stop and explain what exactly you are trying to accomplish before you go any further and bork your system.
[05:56] <power> thanks...!
[06:00] <power_>  necesito saber si alguien conoce de un navegador de internet que se acople con ubuntu, algun navegar mejor firefox ?
[06:00] <bdbear> histo: i'ts a vps, its there to be borked;)  I'm trying to set up an lamp /w userdir. But apache cant wx the files since the files is in home.
[06:00] <histo> power_: /join #ubuntu-es
[06:01] <histo> bdbear: What do you mean you can't wx ?
[06:01] <histo> bdbear: chmod
[06:01] <histo> bdbear: and setup apache properly
[06:01] <Ben64> apache doesn't need write access
[06:01] <power_> i need to know if anyone know any navegator better than firefox for linux ubutu???
[06:02] <bdbear> no but php does
[06:02] <histo> bdbear: you want the users to have there own site in their home directories?
[06:02] <bdbear> Yea
[06:02] <Ben64> power_: there is no "better", use what you like
[06:02] <hateball> !best | power_
[06:02] <histo> power_: you can install midori, chrome, safari, etc.... there are many options
[06:02] <hateball> ugh... so many factoids removed -_-
[06:03] <histo> yeah who pillaged ubottu ?
[06:03] <Ben64> the ops
[06:03] <power_> what is the best internet navegator for linux ubuntu?
[06:04] <Ben64> power_: again, there is no "best"... use what you want
[06:04] <histo> bdbear: is this what you are tyring to impliment https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/public_html.html
[06:05] <histo> bdbear: sorry this is more up-to-date http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/howto/public_html.html
[06:07] <histo> power_: firefox
[06:07] <bdbear> histo: yea. userdir is implemented. but php won't work properly due to file permissions
[06:07] <power_> how can i acelerate my internet?
[06:07] <Ben64> power_: pay for faster internet
[06:07] <bdbear> power_: have an good computer, pay more to your isp.
[06:08] <power_> ok
[06:08] <histo> bdbear: What happens when they try and use php?
[06:09] <bdbear> histo: it can be read, but files are not allowed to be altered.
[06:10] <histo> bdbear: so the php runs or it just tries to download the php file when browsing there?
[06:10] <histo> bdbear: in your php5.conf look for php_admin_value engine Off
[06:11] <histo> Why do I have to play 50 questions with everyone to find out what their Real problem is
[06:11] <histo> bdbear: check this page out http://devplant.net/2010/05/04/linux-php-not-working-in-userdir-public_html/
[06:11] <bdbear> hehe
[06:12] <histo> i'm going to stuff my pie hole and watch a show be back later
[06:12] <bdbear> dont think that is a solution to my problem but ill give it a try;)
[06:13] <user__> user__
[06:14] <CrypticByte> does anyone play Champions of Regnum on Steam?  I was wondering if it is common to play for a few minutes and the game just crash with no error or anything during fights
[06:14] <nastyNVC> registration
[06:16] <bdbear> histo: thats not my issue. (i can basically create an entire site in php on localhost/~user/ and it will work as long as it does not need to write to any of the files. (like CMS's need to)
[06:19] <Braden`> Hello
[06:21] <Braden`> I just did a normal apt-get update / apt-get upgrade and now whenever I try to visit a website hosted on the server, I get a 500 error and the following message in the logs:  [fastcgi:error] [pid 6324] (13)Permission denied: [client <IP_ADDRESS>:57897] FastCGI: failed to connect to server "/fcgi-bin-php5-fpm": connect() failed.  What is causing this error?
[06:26] <Guido1> And what happand with the program menu in the bottom from xubuntu 12.04 in 14.04?
[06:26] <Guido1> hello, i upgraded from xubuntu 12.04 to 14.04. the starmenu stayed the same wheras i have a different one if i do a fresh instal. how can i decide between the menues?
[06:33] <Rory> Braden`: To clarify, this is when you try to access a resource on the machine you updated?
[06:39] <Braden`> I just did a normal apt-get update / apt-get upgrade and now whenever I try to visit a website hosted on the server, I get a 500 error and the following message in the logs:  [fastcgi:error] [pid 6324] (13)Permission denied: [client <IP_ADDRESS>:57897] FastCGI: failed to connect to server "/fcgi-bin-php5-fpm": connect() failed.  What is causing this error?
[07:02] <leeyaa> hello
[07:02] <leeyaa> how to tell apt not to install some dependancies
[07:04] <ki7mt> leeyaa, with dpkg --set-selections, something like: echo "package hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[07:05] <ki7mt> leeyaa, or use apt itself: sudo apt-mark hold <package-name>
[07:05] <ben____> exit
[07:06] <ben____> exit
[07:13] <Braden`> I just did a normal apt-get update / apt-get upgrade and now whenever I try to visit a website hosted on the server, I get a 500 error and the following message in the logs:  [fastcgi:error] [pid 6324] (13)Permission denied: [client <IP_ADDRESS>:57897] FastCGI: failed to connect to server "/fcgi-bin-php5-fpm": connect() failed.  What is causing this error?
[07:15] <cronium> that sounds like a server side error braden are you sure that every website says that?
[07:16] <cronium> are you runnnig a local web server?
[07:25] <ramesh_> hi
[07:25] <ramesh_> this is my last refuge
[07:25] <leeyaa> ki7mt: hm, so i can mark which dependancies i dont want to install
[07:25] <ramesh_> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 and I installed gnome on it
[07:25] <ramesh_> but then I decided to switch back to Unity
[07:26] <ramesh_> and uninstalled gnome
[07:26] <ramesh_> but now the interface looks neither like gnome nor like unity.
[07:26] <ramesh_> Right clicking on the desktop doesn't work
[07:26] <ramesh_> what can I do about this?
[07:28] <rameshthecoder> somebody please help me about it
[07:29] <Energy_> lol
[07:30] <rameshthecoder> ?
[07:31] <Beldar> rameshthecoder, try sudo apt-get --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[07:42] <atomicevents> Hi Everyone. Im am trying to install Ubuntu 14.4, on a machine that was previously running windows 7.
[07:43] <bdbear> ok.
[07:43] <atomicevents> everytime I get to the welcome screen, and then you get to choose a clen install or install alongside widows
[07:43] <atomicevents> either choice i make i end up getting the blingking underscore of death
[07:44] <Beldar> atomicevents, what is the "blingking underscore of death"?
[07:44] <bdbear> google it
[07:44] <Beldar> bdbear, We don;t say google it here.
[07:45] <atomicevents> Black screen, blinking underscore, no action on the dvd and PC not reading
[07:45] <Beldar> atomicevents, Have you checked the sum of the install media?
[07:46] <atomicevents> Beldar, no. Can you advise how to do that?
[07:46] <Beldar> atomicevents, Are you doing the install from the desktop?
[07:46] <atomicevents> No, i am trying to install after the bios, directly from the disc i have burned
[07:46] <Linot> 有会中文的吗？
[07:47] <atomicevents> Can you install directly from the desktop ?
[07:47] <Beldar> !md5sum | atomicevents
[07:47] <bcvery> !cn | Linot
[07:47] <Beldar> atomicevents, Besides the sum check try to boot to the desktop, you might just need a safex boot
[07:48] <bdbear> Atomicevents, are you going to keep windows installed. or are you going to only have ubuntu installed on that computer?
[07:49] <atomicevents> hey bdbear. I wanted to do a clean Ubuntu installation
[07:50] <diverdude> How do i disable the ALT shortcut to the unity HUD popup thing? Its insanely annoying
[07:51] <bdbear> atomicevents: are you able to boot into ubuntu using an liveCD?
[07:52] <Beldar> atomicevents> Can you install directly from the desktop ? Yes
[07:52] <Linot>  /join #ubuntu-tw
[07:52] <whiskers75> Hello, I'm trying to setup ipv6 on Ubuntu.
[07:52] <atomicevents> i am booting into windows on that machine and will try to launch the cd from the desktop
[07:53] <whiskers75> I have another debian system with working ipv6, and I'm wondering how I can share this to my Ubuntu laptop.
[07:53] <j6jujy> hi
[07:53] <Ben64> whiskers75: why share it?
[07:53] <whiskers75> Ben64: that other system's my headless Raspberry Pi
[07:54] <whiskers75> I've got an entire /64 from Hurricane Electric
[07:54] <Ben64> i don't see why that matters? get another /64 ?
[07:55] <whiskers75> no, you can't
[07:55] <whiskers75> these two machines are in the same network
[07:55] <whiskers75> and you can't use an ipv6 tunnel from two machines with the same IP
[07:56] <Ben64> then have the gateway use the tunnel and hand out addresses
[07:57] <whiskers75> Ben64: my router isn't ipv6-capable
[07:57] <Ben64> get one that is?
[07:57] <bdbear> whiskers75, you can flash it and make it IPv6-cabable.
[07:58] <whiskers75> bdbear: no, I can't
[07:58] <whiskers75> it's a crappy router
[07:58] <diverdude> How do i disable the ALT shortcut to the unity HUD popup thing? Its insanely annoying
[07:58] <bdbear> what router do you have?
[07:58] <whiskers75> can't we just setup radvd or something on the raspberry pi?
[07:59] <Ben64> that you'd have to ask in #raspberrypi
[07:59] <whiskers75> mk
[07:59] <Beldar> diverdude, http://askubuntu.com/questions/122209/how-do-i-modify-or-disable-the-huds-use-of-the-alt-key
[07:59] <whiskers75> Ben64: the reason I thought it's relevant to #ubuntu is I have dhcpd running on the pi
[07:59] <whiskers75> I just can't connect to it from Ubuntu
[08:02] <histo> bdbear: What are the perms of your public_html directories?
[08:02] <Ben64> whiskers75: probably because you have dhcpd running on your router
[08:03] <histo> bdbear: make sure the directory is 755
[08:06] <bdbear> histo: its 775
[08:06] <histo> bdbear: should be able to write to it then. php should be trying to write as the user
[08:07] <bdbear> histo thats not the issue, the issue are when i upload files and folders to the dir.
[08:07] <bdbear> histo: or create a directory using mkdir
[08:07] <histo> bdbear: okay earlier you said hte issue is with php not being able to write. Now you can't mkdir?
[08:08] <Braden`> Hello
[08:08] <abhi> hello
[08:08] <abhi> i need help in sasss
[08:08] <abhi> sass
[08:08] <Braden`> How would I modify /etc/init.d/php5-fpm to always perform "chown www-data.www-data /var/run/php5-fpm.sock" every time "service php5-fpm start" is called?
[08:09] <Energy_> why when I put out the hackers out of my world for make free, why they come in groups to attack me. They are cowards? do not care, alone against all until the death !
[08:09] <bcvery> !ot | Energy_
[08:10] <histo> bdbear: can you clarify and ask you question on one line with details?
[08:10] <bdbear> histo: yea, well php can write to the files as long as I update the directories / files manually.
[08:10] <histo> bdbear: What?
[08:11] <histo> !details | bdbear
[08:11] <Braden`> Mine is on one line and detailed
[08:12] <bcvery> !patience | Braden`, you may want to check in #ubuntu-server while you wait
[08:13] <Ben64> Braden`: that's probably not what you want to do. try adding "listen.owner = www-data" and "listen.group = www-data" to the conf file in /etc/php5/<other stuff here>
[08:13] <histo> Ben64: is bdbear making any sense to you?  Or is it just me?
[08:13] <Ben64> bdbear: i'm trying to ignore that because bad server config makes me cringe
[08:14] <bdbear> be64: i know the feeling.
[08:14] <Ben64> whoops, meant to ping histo
[08:14] <bdbear> haha
[08:17] <Energy_> I think that night I was in israel disconnect the machine to a wicked woman.
[08:17] <histo> bdbear: What do you mean php can write to the files as long as you " update the directories / files manually"  ???
[08:18] <bdbear> histo: Well, if you create an file in your home directory as an user in ubuntu. Who owns the file?
[08:18] <histo> bdbear: the user
[08:18] <bdbear> histo: and if apache wants to alter the file, who does it try to alter the file as?
[08:19] <histo> bdbear: should be the user or www-data
[08:19] <diverdude> Beldar, thank you
[08:19] <Braden`> How would I modify /etc/init.d/php5-fpm to always perform "chown www-data.www-data /var/run/php5-fpm.sock" every time "service php5-fpm start" is called?
[08:19] <Ben64> Braden`: that's probably not what you want to do. try adding "listen.owner = www-data" and "listen.group = www-data" to the conf file in /etc/php5/<other stuff here>
[08:19] <Beldar> diverdude, no problem. ;)
[08:19] <histo> lol
[08:19] <streulma> my macbook 2006 keeps randomly hibernating on Ubuntu
[08:20] <zyan> new to IRC. I've been on a couple before. do all clients boot you if you don't talk?
[08:20] <diverdude> Beldar, weird to me why they would choose Alt as default shortcut for that :)
[08:20] <streulma> is Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS in those days able to use ?
[08:22] <bdbear> histo: in my case its www-data. and apache cant alter the file, since its owned by the user and usergroup. So if i want to alter it, i have to change the permissions of the file to user:www-data .
[08:22] <histo> bdbear: k
[08:22] <histo> bdbear: do you need help chown'ng ?
[08:23] <bdbear> histo: maby. What i want are for the permissions to be recursive, when i create new files or folders inside an folder.
[08:23] <histo> bdbear: chown bdbear:www-data /home/bdbear/public_html
[08:24] <leoly> how to install android adb
[08:24] <leoly> help me
[08:24] <CRPL> Hello. Is there anybody who can help me with Ubuntu for Devices (Ubuntu Phone more exactly) ?
[08:24] <leoly> Ubuntu phone?
[08:25] <bcvery> !phone | CRPL
[08:25] <leoly> Where can i get it?
[08:25] <histo> leoly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AndroidSDK
[08:25] <CRPL> ok, thank you bcvery
[08:25] <histo> bdbear: substitute bdbear for your actual user
[08:27] <histo> bdbear: your questions might be better answered in the apache room if you somehow manage to phrase together a single readable question.
[08:28] <Braden`> Ben64:  That didn't solve it.  Is there a way to just modify the init script to set it after the service loads?
[08:28] <leoly> java desktop
[08:28] <bdbear> histo: but this arent apache related, its ubuntu related. ok, lets say i chmod and then what happens if i create an file or an folder inside /home/bdbear/public_html as the user that owns that home dir? its created whit the users default permissions.
[08:29] <histo> bdbear: yes their umask
[08:30] <Ben64> Braden`: which file did you edit
[08:31] <Braden`> Ben64:  /etc/php5/fpm/php-fpm.conf
[08:32] <Ben64> Braden`: yeah thats not the right one, it should be www.conf
[08:32] <bdbear> histo: so back to my original issue;) how can i make it so. files and folders inside /home/user/public_html/ adopts the permissions of the folder? Automatically.
[08:32] <Ben64> Braden`: not sure of the directory though, i don't have the same setup as you
[08:32] <Ben64> bdbear: instead of doing that, you should do things the proper way
[08:33] <bdbear> ben64. whats the proper way then?
[08:33] <Braden`> Ben64:  Right now, I need the quick and dirty fix.  That would be to set the permissions after the service is started.  Could you please tell me how to do that?  Modifying /etc/init.d/php5-fpm hasn't worked
[08:33] <Braden`> After the system is working, I can work on the proper fix
[08:33] <Ben64> bdbear: histo has been trying to tell you for ages
[08:34] <Braden`> My next alternative is to set a 5 second cron job to set the perm
[08:34] <Ben64> Braden`: well good luck with that then
[08:34] <Braden`> Ben64:  Could you tell me how to manipulate the upstart script please?
[08:34] <Ben64> i'm trying to get you to do it the right way, not sure why there is so much pushback
[08:35] <Braden`> Because of time.  If it is working, I will be happy to modify it to do the correct way
[08:35] <Braden`> This is time sensitive
[08:35] <Ben64> then edit the file, add those two(2!) lines and be done
[08:35] <Braden`> I did, it didn't work :/
[08:35] <Ben64> you didn't edit the right file, as i already said.
[08:35] <Braden`> Hmm
[08:36] <Braden`> What is it on your system?
[08:36] <Braden`> I might have the same but located elsewhere
[08:36] <Ben64> i don't have it, as i said its not the same setup
[08:36] <Braden`> Ah
[08:36] <Braden`> You aren't using fpm
[08:36] <Ben64> you should slow down and read more
[08:37] <LinoT> 有人吗
[08:40] <Braden`> 闪么？ （what）
[08:40] <aeon-ltd> !cn
[08:41] <Braden`> There's the link.  Didn't know the trigger
[08:44] <lblume> Braden`: It's 什么, pinyin shenme, too :-)
[08:44] <histo> bdbear: this is not a difficult process... http://ubuntuserverguide.com/2012/10/how-to-enable-and-configure-apache2-userdir-module-in-ubuntu-server-12-04.html
[08:47] <bdbear> Histo: userdir works perfectly. my issue are related to the fact that if i create files inside public_html as the user. They wont work unless i chmod them to be owned by www-data.
[08:47] <Ben64> define "work"
[08:47] <bdbear> yea was going to;)
[08:48]  * histo is going to scream
[08:48] <Braden`> Ben64:  The cron fix worked.  Now I am going to check into the config entry you were mentioning
[08:48] <Braden`> Ben64:  I do appreciate the assistance by the way
[08:48] <Braden`> I apologize for being uppity
[08:48] <bdbear> <- me to ;)
[08:48] <anton02> catalyst control center from AMD attempts to enter su mode instead of sudo and hence fails to start. what should i do?
[08:49] <histo> anton02: there is no su mode.
[08:50] <Ben64> Braden`: what version of ubuntu
[08:50] <anton02> hence the hence in my sentence
[08:50] <histo> anton02: su donkey -c somecommand  will run somecommand as user donkey
[08:50] <anton02> just ran sudo amdcccle
[08:50] <Braden`> Ben64:  14.04
[08:50] <histo> anton02: why?
[08:51] <f3lix> Going slightly crazy here trying to take down a subprocess in a bash script on exit.
[08:51] <Braden`> Ben64:  This is an upgrade from a 12.04 install
[08:51] <f3lix> Anyone with knowledge on that?
[08:52] <Ben64> Braden`: well i just got a 14.04 vm running, and its owned by www-data already, no modifications necessary
[08:53] <histo> f3lix: which subprocess?
[08:53] <noOne> hey ev1
[08:53] <Braden`> Ben64:  That was the way it was here prior to the last apt-get upgrade
[08:53] <histo> Braden`: any ppa's in use?
[08:53] <f3lix> It's a watchdog used to kill the script after a given amount of time:
[08:53] <f3lix> SCRIPT_PID=$$
[08:53] <f3lix> (sleep 10s && echo Killing $NAME && cat $OUTPUTCAP | mail -s "Timed out and killed: $NAME" -t $EMAIL_RECIPIENT -a FROM:"$EMAIL_SENDER" && kill -9 $SCRIPT_PID && echo Bye bye) &
[08:53] <noOne> can someone tell me how to fix my sound problem
[08:53] <histo> !paste | f3lix
[08:53] <f3lix> trap "echo killing $WATCHDOG_PID; kill -TERM $WATCHDOG_PID; echo killed $WATCHDOG_PID" HUP SIGHUP INT SIGINT QUIT SIGQUIT FPE SIGFPE KILL SIGKILL ALRM SIGALRM TERM SIGTERM EXIT
[08:53] <f3lix> sorry
[08:54] <Braden`> ppa's?
[08:54] <Ben64> Braden`: the listen owner and group are located at....  /etc/php5/fpm/pool.d/www.conf
[08:54] <Braden`> Ben64:  Thank you!
[08:54] <histo> f3lix: ask in #bash
[08:54] <f3lix> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7725453/
[08:54] <f3lix> Oh, didn't know there was one, thanks :)
[08:55] <Braden`> Yep, that fixed it
[08:55] <Braden`> I will remove the cron job now
[08:55] <Braden`> Thank you for the assistance.  I, again, apologize for earlier
[08:56] <Ben64> Braden`: no problem
[08:56] <Ben64> btw, don't try running 14.04 in a vm with 512MB of ram and 12MB video card
[08:57] <histo> lol
[08:57] <histo> Ben64: full blown desktop?
[08:57] <histo> ouch
[08:57] <Ben64> yeah...
[08:57] <histo> Ben64: yeah unity is a little fat
[08:57] <Ben64> had to up to 2048MB and 128MB to get unity running smoothly
[09:00] <vak> hi all
[09:01] <vak> i am re-installing Ubuntu 14 without formating the partition. Will the /home/myusername directory remain with its content?
[09:01] <Beldar> vak, Why would you not install this way?
[09:02] <vak> i do understand, that some ".*" files will be rewritten, but what about Documents, Desktop, etc?
[09:02] <vak> Beldar: what way?..
[09:02] <Ben64> vak: do you have a separate /home partition?
[09:02] <Beldar> vak, I meant why would you install that way
[09:02] <rahul_> why i am not having rename package in my Repo
[09:02] <vak> Ben64: no, /home resides in / partition
[09:02] <rahul_> and also i am getting  Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[09:03] <Ben64> vak: then that doesn't sound like a great idea
[09:03] <rahul_> after update
[09:03] <Ben64> rahul_: pastebin what you're talking about
[09:04] <Beldar> rahul_, rename package?
[09:04] <rahul_> yes
[09:04] <vak> Beldar: my installation became unbootable because of RAID/mdadm. I tried to fix it, giving up now. But data in /home/myusername is needed
[09:04] <rahul_> i tried to install apt-get install rename
[09:04] <Beldar> rahul_, The ? means what is that?
[09:05] <Ben64> rahul_: rename is not a package
[09:05] <Beldar> vak, You can separate home
[09:05] <histo> !separatehome | vak
[09:05] <rahul_> http://code.linuxnix.com/2013/01/shell-script-remove-spaces-in-file-names-in-linuxunix.html   here it is showing to how to install rename . ]
[09:06] <YatharthROCK> I pressed Ctrl+Alt+S (shade windows I think) for some of my open Chrome windows, and they disappeared into the background leaving only their edges slightly prominent.
[09:06] <Ben64> rahul_: well thats not in ubuntu
[09:06] <Beldar> vak, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving As suggested the reinstall way is not a good idea.
[09:06] <YatharthROCK> How can I get them back into their normal state?
[09:06] <YatharthROCK> They don't show up in the app switcher.
[09:06] <vak> Beldar: but why not good?..
[09:07] <Beldar> vak, Ubuntu is not designed to be used this way.
[09:07] <YatharthROCK> Seriously, I'm freaking out not being able to interact with the windows at all
[09:08] <vak> Beldar: i am 15 years with Linuxes... just am trying to understand why it is not good.
[09:08] <YatharthROCK> A Chrome tab management extension still see the windows.
[09:08] <histo> vak: you are going to reinstall to / without formatting after 15 years with linux?  good luck with that.
[09:08] <Sachiru> Because your /home is inside /?
[09:09] <Beldar> vak, Honestly 15 years should tell you why,....
[09:09] <Sachiru> And you have a single partition, meaning if you wipe / then /home will go away with it?
[09:09] <histo> vak: what do you think is going to happen to all the files that are in / now?
[09:09] <Sachiru> I find it difficult to believe that you have 15 years of experience with linux. 15 minutes is more believable.
[09:10] <vak> histo: no need to press on my self-esteem. Are you talking about binaries that will be lost orfans not referred in package repos?
[09:10] <YatharthROCK> Guys, I shaded some of my Chrome windows accidentally with the keyboard shortcut on Ubuntu 14.04. Unlike on prevous versions where the title-bar remained, I can't interact with the window at all; only see its outline.
[09:11] <Sachiru> We're talking about the fact that your /home is inside your / partition.
[09:11] <Sachiru> And that wiping / will wipe out /home as well.
[09:11] <Sachiru> Since your (puported) goal is to recover /home, then what you're doing is counterintuitive.
[09:12] <histo> vak: just move /home to a separate partition and leave it there. Youc an format / and use your new /home partition without formatting.
[09:12] <YatharthROCK> Sachiru histo Beldar: Sorry for mentioning you, but do you have any idea how I could unshade those windows?
[09:13] <vak> Sachiru: it is fully on behalve of the *installer* what will be done with my home/ . That's why i am here asking. It may just put needed files in  my home dir, it may fully re-create home dir -- it's more about decisions done around the *installer*
[09:13] <YatharthROCK> Ack, it seems to be an open bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1313446
[09:14] <histo> vak: What?
[09:15] <YatharthROCK> Some idiot marked the bug a a dupe of a different issue.
[09:15]  * YatharthROCK sighs
[09:15] <histo> vak: what is your question?
[09:17] <abhi> sass in not working
[09:17] <vak> histo: i've figured out that re-install without formating is not a good idea, but am trying to figure out why exactly...
[09:17] <Sachiru> @histo: He lost /home, which resides on /
[09:17] <histo> Sachiru: he didn't lose /home
[09:17] <Sachiru> And wants to reinstall ubuntu because somehow that will make him get /home back
[09:18] <vak> histo: i see only one reason -- plenty of potentially lost files (orfans) not refered in repo anymore
[09:18] <histo> vak: I'd venture to believe the installer won't even let you do that.
[09:18] <vak> Sachiru: i didn't lost home. at least yet)))
[09:19] <vak> histo: i did this before and the content was preserved. But now we are with Ubuntu 14, so, the installer migth have changed its nice behaviour...
[09:20] <abhi> sass in not working.......when i installing all the ruby gems after that i used compass watch but i am facing so much problem
[09:21] <vak> Sachiru: what i have lost -- is "bootability" of my Ubuntu 14. mdadm loops in initrd/initramfs premount phase reporting exit code 0, where no changes to the system state is done. I can't fix it on my own in a day
[09:23] <ddv> hello I have added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php5/ubuntu lucid main to my sources list, did update, upgrade, but apt still says there are no newer versions avilable...
[09:24] <histo> vak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation
[09:25] <vak> histo: so, it should work?...
[09:25] <histo> vak: apparently but they also recommend backing up your data.
[09:26] <vak> histo: that's understood...
[09:26] <histo> vak: I would imagine that would create all sorts of config hell in /etc, and wonder how they are handling the overwriting of files.
[09:27] <hateball> ddv: did you do "apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[09:27] <ddv> hateball: yes
[09:27] <hyper320> hi, i installed 14.04 on my HDD and put it into my laptop but it doenst start
[09:27] <k1l> ddv: PPA belong into the sources.list.d folder. add them with add-apt-repository
[09:27] <ddv> k1l: yeah I did that also
[09:28] <vak> histo: iirr, no questions, they'll be just overwritten and i'm ok with this
[09:28] <histo> vak: iirr?
[09:28] <hateball> ddv: I just checked some random packages there, and there doesnt appear to even be any for lucid?
[09:28] <k1l> ddv: you doubled it or only with add-apt-...
[09:28] <vak> histo: if i remember right
[09:28] <histo> vak: k
[09:28] <ddv> k1l: no I tried both methods, just adding it to sources.list and add-apt
[09:29] <ddv> hateball: that could be the problem, this is a very old server
[09:29] <k1l> ddv: see https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5 no lucid packages
[09:29] <hyper320> hi, i installed 14.04 on my HDD and put it into my laptop but it doenst start, i can access GRUB2 though
[09:29] <ddv> k1l: really: if I go to http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php5/ubuntu/dists/ I can browse to the lucid directory
[09:30] <hyper320> can somebody help me?
[09:30] <hateball> ddv: well, check /pool, no packages there
[09:30] <ddv> hateball: oh ok
[09:31] <hateball> hyper320: Does GRUB spit any errors at you when you try to boot? Is it trying to boot from UUID or something like /dev/sdX ?
[09:31] <ddv> hateball: so there are no packages for lucid then?
[09:34] <JediMaster> hi guys, is it possible to set "options timeout:1" etc. that is set in /etc/resolv.conf within the /etc/network/interfaces file? I know you can set dns-nameservers, but can you set the options so they don't get overwritten on resolv.conf re-write?
[09:35] <ddv> hateball: there are packages in the pool dir though
[09:35] <hateball> ddv: I can't see any for lucid
[09:35] <ddv> hateball: oh
[09:35] <Guest28532> o
[09:36] <karab44> hellp
[09:36] <karab44> hello
[09:36] <karab44> :)
[09:36] <karab44> what's interesting in "Canonical Partners" software ppa? I have it unchecked by default
[09:39] <hyper320> hateball, no really
[09:41] <hateball> hyper320: By your description it sounds like you installed Ubuntu onto this harddrive (external?) on another machine and put in this laptop, correct?
[09:42] <hyper320> yes, i installed it when it was in my PC, and put it into the laptop (internal)
[09:42] <hyper320> i cant start a LiveCD or LiveUSB from my laptop because the DVD drive is broken and it doenst support USB legecy
[09:44] <hyper320> how can i change or check the UUID?
[09:44] <jb_> what uuid ?
[09:45] <hyper320> for my HDD i put in my laptop
[09:45] <hyper320> can i change it in the GRUB2 commandline?
[09:46] <jb_> you can use a different method for example by label
[09:46] <jb_> vim /etc/grub/grub.cfg
[09:46] <hyper320> can i access this trough grub?
[09:53] <hyper320> how can i check my UUID with grub2?
[09:57] <hyper320> any help?
[09:58] <babinlonston1> hyper320: blkid
[09:58] <babinlonston1> Hi everyone , How can i make my web server hardening , saw a method of Disabling Symbolic Links, Can't understand this will any one guide me to make it understand ? and how can i do it
[09:59] <hacktus0> i tried this command cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp and the result is 44000 of temperatur but i want to convert into °C ?????????
[09:59] <hacktus0> how can i do ?
[09:59] <hyper320> babinlonston1 what do you mean?
[10:01] <bazhang> !blkid | hyper320
[10:02] <zyan> I have this issue. I'm working on a clients laptop, and I reinstalled windows for him. he wanted ubuntu as well, so I installed it for him. I got windows setup with the software he wanted, and ubuntu setup with the way he wanted. little did I know I installed the wrong version of windows, so the activation does not work. I need home premium instead of ultimate. how can I install home premium without messing up the bootloader?
[10:02] <babinlonston1> hyper320: blkid /dev/sdx replace x with your device
[10:03] <hyper320> i think its sdc because it was on the 3rd SATA
[10:04] <hyper320> i installed ubuntu with the other 2 SATA's unplugged on the 3rd HDD
[10:04] <hyper320> i only can access GRUB2 on my laptop, i would have to put it into this PC again, but there it works fine...
[10:07] <hyper320> @lunch
[10:09] <bahman> hi to all
[10:09] <zyan> hello
[10:10] <bahman> how are you
[10:10] <bahman> ?
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[10:11] <bahman> please ASL
[10:11] <zyan> I will only give A and S. 22, M.
[10:11] <bazhang> !ot | bahman
[10:12] <mork> is this ubuntu assistance?
[10:13] <mork> i have a massive problem with my ubuntu
[10:14] <mork> hello
[10:15] <mork> hello
[10:15] <mork> any ubuntu experts here?
[10:15] <bazhang> !ask
[10:16] <mork> I downloaded a game app "Einstein" from ubuntu software center, it totally ruined my screen, adjusted all the icon sizes and everything
[10:17] <mork> now when my system boots the monitor has large icons and is thinner to a differnent soze, but the splash screen is normal
[10:19] <mork> how do i get out of this xchat rubbish?
[10:19] <k1l> /quit
[10:34] <mork> ubuntu
[10:34] <mork> ubuntu experts
[10:36] <george3> .
[10:39] <hyper320> is there a way to fix the UUID without a LiveCD?
[10:40] <hyper320> or can i change it with gparted to sda even with the GPT table?
[10:46] <hyper320> any help?
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[10:55] <k1l> peterpan22: no advertisment in here, please. this is for technical support only. you can join #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat
[10:56] <hateball> hyper320: you cant change the UUID of the partition, but you can edit GRUB
[10:57] <hyper320> how?
[10:58] <hateball> hyper320: if you can mount the drive in another machine you can edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg to use the correct UUID
[10:58] <hateball> hyper320: you can also edit the GRUB boot parameter at runtime, to see if it wants to boot
[10:59] <hateball> hyper320: ... also, the wrong UUID might be in /etc/fstab as well, so you should check there
[10:59] <hyper320> what will be the right UUID?
[11:00] <hyper320> i ment what will be the right grub settings?
[11:00] <hateball> hyper320: Plug in the drive in some machine, run "sudo blkid"
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[11:01] <hyper320> from a LiveCD? or with normal Ubuntu shell?
[11:02] <hateball> hyper320: If you edit the boot-line it should be pretty obvious. the config has entries like "root=UUID=uid-goes-here-123"
[11:03] <mehmet_> hi
[11:04] <hyper320> ok i try it, back in 20 min
[11:10] <ogle> Nyash myash ?
[11:12] <kingverma`> hello
[11:12] <kingverma`> is this achannel for ubuntu help?
[11:12] <DJones> kingverma`: Yes it is
[11:13] <kingverma`> i want to install ubuntu in my laptop but it turns black screen during installation
[11:13] <kingverma`> nomo option already tried plz help
[11:15] <dagger> anyone up?
[11:15] <karab44> hello
[11:15] <dagger> hey.
[11:16] <kingverma`> when i install live usb boot it goes to ubuntu icon and some loading is done then next screen fully blank kept for 2 hours but no use its blank then i used nomodeset option after some search but still same plz help need ubuntu badly
[11:16] <karab44> I have problem when I created shortcut for unity launcher and app crashes. It doesn't crash when launching directly
[11:18] <kingverma`> any one solve this problem?
[11:19] <kingverma`> when i install live usb boot it goes to ubuntu icon and some loading is done then next screen fully blank kept for 2 hours but no use its blank then i used nomodeset option after some search but still same plz help need ubuntu badly
[11:20] <hateball> kingverma`: you can edit the boot option and remove the words "quiet splash" and see if that helps
[11:20] <dkorras> hi all, please help me. i ahev created a bond interface on my UBuntu machine, but when I ifup bond0 i get the error:  sh: echo I/O error
[11:22] <Blinky_> hi guys, I have just installed openssh onto my netbook and can connect to the localhost but I am unable to connect over the network using putty, any ideas?
[11:22] <k1l> !nomodeset | kingverma`
[11:23] <Blinky_> Addon: I get Network error: Connection refused
[11:26] <bdbear> blinky_: what does the log say?
[11:26] <Blinky_> what log mate?
[11:27] <Blinky_> I am very to this
[11:27] <bdbear> Blinku_: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH/Logging
[11:32] <Blinky_> bdbear: The log file located /var/log/auth.log shows nothing for the login attempts made by putty
[11:32] <hyper320> hateball i'm now on a liveCD how can i edit the line of the grub.conf?
[11:33] <bdbear> blinky: do you have a firewall in betwene?
[11:33] <hateball> hyper320: Run "sudo blkid" to make sure you have the correct blkid of that drive. Then you mount the partition containing /boot, doubleclicking in a file manager should do
[11:33] <Blinky_> bdbear: no I have the windows pc on the same internal network.  The PC is cabled and the netbook is wireless.
[11:34] <hateball> hyper320: Find the file /boot/grub/grub.cfg, edit the root=UUID=uid-goes-here-123 stuff
[11:34] <hateball> !reinstallgrub
[11:34] <hateball> :/
[11:34] <bdbear> Blinky_: are your wireless network isolated from your wired network. (its an option on some routers)
[11:34] <hateball> !fixgrub
[11:34] <Blinky_> no both are together
[11:35] <hateball> hyper320: This might be helpful as well, for reinstalling and regenerating grub.cfg ^
[11:35] <Blinky_> I can exchange files between the two fine
[11:35] <hateball> hyper320: But doing it manually as I suggested works fine enough to get a booting system at least
[11:35] <hateball> hyper320: oh and check the /etc/fstab so it points the mountpoints to the correct UUID as well
[11:35] <bdbear> ok, try to up the loglevel on openssh. to se if you can get more logging info.
[11:35] <hyper320> there is no such file
[11:36] <Blinky_> ok just looking to see how to do that
[11:37] <bdbear> blinky_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[11:38] <bdbear> blinky_: what does ps -A | grep sshd output?
[11:40] <Blinky_> 5028 ?    00:00:00 sshd
[11:40] <bdbear> and sudo ss -lnp | grep sshd
[11:41] <Blinky_> tcp LISTEN  0  128  *:22  *:*  users:(("sshd",5028,3))
[11:42] <Blinky_> tcp LISTEN  0  128  :::22  :::*  users:(("sshd",5028,4))
[11:44] <hyper320> .trying now to install boot-repair
[11:44] <cristobal> greetings anyone knows how to restore the default source.list  or ppas ?
[11:44] <bdbear> Blinky_ and you were able to connect locally, ssh -v localhost ?
[11:44] <cristobal> ppa´s
[11:45] <bdbear> cristobal: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124017/how-do-i-restore-the-default-repositories
[11:45] <Blinky_> bdbear: yeah can connect locally, I have just changed the logging to VERBOSE from INFO and still nothing in the log
[11:45] <bdbear> blinky_ iptables ufw ?
[11:45] <cristobal> thanks bdbear
[11:47] <Blinky_> bdbear: iptables ufw? do you have the command I need for that please?
[11:48] <Blinky_> I have iptables -L -n before, result: ACCEPT tcp -- <IP_ADDRESS>/0 <IP_ADDRESS>/0 tcp dpt:22
[11:48] <Blinky_> thats is in the chain INPUT
[11:48] <bdbear> blinky_: nmap localhost -p 1-65535
[11:48] <bdbear>  (need to have nmap installed apt-get install nmap)
[11:50] <Blinky_> bdbear: 22/tcp open ssh and 631/tcp open ipp
[11:51] <bdbear> blinky_: have you  tried to telnet port 22 ?
[11:52] <bdbear> Blinky_: its kinda hard to trubbleshoot when you dont have any logs to work on. since you dont even know if there is established a line of "communication" betwene the klient and the host. so i think you should try to enable a more agressive logging level
[11:52] <Blinky_> just tried, putty failed with connection refused and android cant do it either (just for testing purposes)
[11:54] <Blinky_> bdbear: I understand that this is a difficult situation for you, I believe that the communication between the two pc on a hardware level is not the issue.
[11:54] <Blinky_> bdbear: I have been transferring files between the two for a few hours now without issue.
[11:55] <Blinky_> bdbear: Could this be a firewall issue with Ubuntu?  How do I retrieve more indepth logs?  I know that I am only asking without really supplying info but without your help I am stuck.
[11:55] <cristobal> any way to re-install this other than one by one ? the problem persist so it was not the source list i guess
[11:55] <cristobal> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:55] <cristobal> mame: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14) but 2.19-0ubuntu6 is to be installed
[11:55] <cristobal>       Depends: libexpat1 (>= 2.0.1) but 2.1.0-4ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:55] <cristobal>       Depends: libflac8 (>= 1.3.0) but 1.3.0-2 is to be installed
[11:55] <cristobal>       Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.9.0) but 2.11.0-0ubuntu4.1 is to be installed
[11:56] <cristobal>       Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) but 1:4.9-20140406-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:56] <cristobal>       Depends: libjpeg8 (>= 8c) but 8c-2ubuntu8 is to be installed
[11:56] <cristobal>       Depends: libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1) but 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4 is to be installed
[11:56] <cristobal>       Depends: libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1) but 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4 is to be installed
[11:56] <bcvery> !paste | cristobal
[11:56] <cristobal>       Depends: libsdl1.2debian (>= 1.2.11) but 1.2.15-8ubuntu1.1 is to be installed
[11:56] <cristobal>       Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.6) but 4.8.2-19ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:56] <cristobal>       Depends: zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) but 1:1.2.8.dfsg-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:56] <cristobal>       Depends: mess-data (= 0.152-0ubuntu2) but 0.153-0ubuntu1~ppa5~trusty1 is to be installed
[11:56] <bdbear> blinky_: try to nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config and change the LogLevel to VERBOSE
[11:56] <Blinky_> I have already done that mate
[11:57] <Blinky_> still not getting anything from the auth.log
[11:57] <k1l> cristobal: first use a pastbin. then make sure that no PPAs make that trouble
[11:57] <cristobal> dont know how to verify that .... gives me the problem when try to install anything from the software center
[11:58] <Blinky_> bdbear: There is nothing in that log file regarding any of the attempts to connect via ssh from the pc to the netbook
[11:59] <bdbear> Blinky_: netstat --listen does you se tcp6       0      0 [::]:ssh                [::]:*                  LISTEN there?
[12:00] <Blinky_> bdbear: I have solved it, f*ing thing has not held the static IP on reboot and has gone back to DHCP.  Changed the IP and in straight away, really sorry
[12:00] <cristobal> will use synaptic package manager to re install them :S
[12:00] <Blinky_> now just need to get it to hold the static IP
[12:01] <bdbear> blinky_: you can bind the IP adress to the mac adress in your router.
[12:02] <Blinky_> bdbear: Yeah but I have just looked into network-manager and I have set the static IP for the wlan and it is not using it?
[12:03] <bdbear> Blinky_: Personally i prefer to set up all network configurations on my router/gateway. and then let all the clients have DHCP enabled.
[12:03] <Blinky_> Not a bad shout. you up for a different problem? you got time?
[12:03] <bdbear> Blinky_: sure
[12:05] <Blinky_> bdbear: On boot the wireless disconnects and turns off, I have to click on the network-manager icon on the system tray and enable wifi for it to reconnect.  This happens only on a boot and not resume.  It also has no other issues during normal work.  How do I get it to enable wifi on boot and connect to the network.  I have tried selecting it within network-manager.
[12:08] <bdbear> Blinky_: nano /etc/network/interfaces auto wlan0
[12:08] <bdbear> iface wlan0 inet dhcp (or inet static and define the static info)
[12:10] <Blinky_> so just add the lines "auto wlan0" and "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" ?
[12:11] <bdbear> Blinky_: yea then it should automatically load on boot, and get ip from dhcp. if you want to have an static ip you can add it there as well
[12:12] <bdbear> blinky_: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html should cover it.
[12:13] <bdbear> blinky_: that one is old tho. this one is more ip to date. http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_14.04&p=initial_conf&f=3
[12:14] <Blinky_> bdbear: Great mate, just rebooting now to test.  Cheers for the link also
[12:14] <bdbear> Blinky_: a link can say more than a thousand words;) happy to help.
[12:22] <Blinky_> brb
[12:33] <makara> hi. I've replaced Nautilus with Nemo. One thing is missing, ability to extract an archive through right-click context menu. Any idea how I can get that functionality back?
[12:38] <arcsky> hi a friend did poweroff my linux machine since i didnt got access (ping/ssh) to it. ist possible that i can see in any logs what did happend to that server?
[12:40] <jdmf> I have issues with debmirror - I'm trying to download i18n using the "debmirror --i18n" option, but nothing happens. Anyone with a good idea what I'm doing wrong?
[12:41] <cristobal> guys i try sudo apt-get install packagename but still do not work http://pastebin.com/53AH94Pr
[12:42] <bdbear> arcsky: tail -f /var/log/auth.log
[12:43] <jdmf> cristobal: Which version are you using? (cat /etc/os-release)
[12:44] <cristobal> jdmf, Ubuntu 14.04 Trusty Thar   the problem was i deleted the default canonical ppas but i think i restore them already
[12:44] <cristobal> jdmf, it was my fault XD
[12:45] <jdmf> cristobal: Have you tried with apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade? (maybe also apt-get dist-upgrade)
[12:46] <cristobal> jdmf,  none work
[12:46] <cristobal> jdmf, they do what they supposed to do but do not fix the error
[12:47]  * ultrapro GOT FOR SALE VPS SERVER , HOSTING on a LINUX PLATFORM !
[12:49] <jdmf> cristobal, i'm thinking something like: apt-get -f install --reinstall libc6
[12:51] <jdmf> cristobal, you need to make sure you have your /etc/apt/sources.list using the correct mirror for downloading the files you need. (not using CD/DVD path though)
[12:51] <cristobal> jdmf, worked but when i will go and install for example mame on the software source  keep wasking me to install the list i told you
[12:51] <cristobal> jdmf already i will re-instalal
[12:53] <jdmf> cristobal: execute this:  apt-get update; apt-get -f install --install libc6 libexpat1 libflac8 libfontconfig1 libgcc1 libjpeg8 libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libsdl1.2debian libstdc++6 zlib1g mess-data
[12:54] <jdmf> cristobal: this way it will use the latest version, but if your apt/sources.list is using a different or wrong mirror, this will not work.
[12:54] <cristobal> jdmf, E: Command line option --install is not understood
[12:55] <jdmf> cristobal --reinstall
[12:55] <jdmf> cristobal, sorry for that.
[12:57] <jdmf> cristobal: here you see an example of the /etc/apt/sources.list file - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7726291/
[12:58] <shorty> summon Beldar
[12:58] <cristobal> one sec idmf
[12:59] <no_gravity> For a typical lamp stack, would you guys choose a 32 bit or a 64 bit Ubuntu disk image if your provider has both?
[12:59] <jdmf> no_gravity 64bit
[12:59] <no_gravity> jdmf: any reasons?
[12:59] <jdmf> no_gravity: Better hardware support, and faster access to hardware/applications.
[13:00] <cristobal> jdmf,  did what its supposed to do as well but the software center say the same
[13:00] <usr13> cristobal: cat /etc/issue (what does that say).
[13:00] <usr13> ?
[13:00] <no_gravity> jdmf: why increases 64bit the hardware support?
[13:00] <cristobal> jdmf, apt-get update; apt-get -f install --reinstall libc6 libexpat1 libflac8 libfontconfig1 libgcc1 libjpeg8 libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libsdl1.2debian libstdc++6 zlib1g mess-data
[13:00] <cristobal> sorry not that
[13:01] <kyle__> LUkS/LVM install question: how do you tell grub which encrypted volume to setup first?
[13:01] <cristobal> jdmf, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[13:01] <jdmf> no_gravity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19803/for-better-performance-should-i-install-32-bit-or-64-bit
[13:02] <usr13> cristobal: What have you installed via ppa's?
[13:05] <usr13> cristobal: What command generated  http://pastebin.com/53AH94Pr ?
[13:06] <usr13> cristobal: Or, what was the last thing you successfully installed?
[13:07] <cristobal> jdmf, usr13   http://pastebin.com/d297Td3y
[13:07] <Blinky_> bdbear: You still there mate?
[13:07] <r_rios> Hello. After the last kernel update, I think, my laptop's fan has been too loud. Can anyone relate to this?
[13:07] <cristobal> jdmf, usr13  the problem was i was deleting old ppas and by mistake delete canonical as well
[13:08] <Abhijit> !fan | r_rios,
[13:09] <usr13> cristobal: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list  Will tell you what you installed last.  But yea, if you deleted sources entries, you need to fix that and try to let apt fix itself again.
[13:10] <usr13> cristobal: So get your sources back as they should be and do;  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[13:12] <usr13> cristobal: By removing those ppa's, you will pull the plug on the apps you installed from them and you'll no longer be able to maintain those packages. (I know I'm stating the obvious, but... FYI).
[13:13] <usr13> cristobal: So, it can be said that you can get into trouble with ppa's but you can also cause trouble by removing them as well, (in some ways).
[13:14] <r_rios> Abhijit: That page is blank
[13:15] <cristobal> usr13,  too much i will do a fresh install XD i did an distro  upgrade   and i remake source.list was well nothing is working thanks anyway :)
[13:15] <cristobal> better start fresh :P
[13:17] <robynata> :-D
[13:18] <Blinky_> Could someone please tell me why when I add 'auto wlan0' and 'iface wlan0 inet dhcp' to the interfaces file the network config on boot takes nearly two minutes and my wifi does not enable ort connect to the network?
[13:21] <usr13> Blinky_: no
[13:21] <usr13> Blinky_: Are you using network-manager?
[13:21] <Blinky_> usr13: Yeah
[13:22] <usr13> Blinky_: Why then do you edit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[13:22] <usr13> Blinky_: (I assume that is what you were saying, right?)
[13:23] <Blinky_> usr13: Network manager will not connect to my wireless network on boot.  It wont even enable my wireless on boot.  I have to click on the network icon on the system tray and enable wireless everytime it boots
[13:24] <usr13> Blinky_: Then fix network-manager
[13:24] <usr13> Blinky_: Or ditch it and use wicd
[13:24] <Blinky_> usr13: It is a fresh install today
[13:24] <usr13> Blinky_: Is it fully updated?
[13:24] <Blinky_> usr13: I tried wicd yesterday and could not get it to work, when I then removed network manager I lost connection completely
[13:25] <Blinky_> yeha
[13:25] <Blinky_> yeah*
[13:26] <usr13> Blinky_: They both work for everyone else.  Not sure why wicd did not work for you, but you would, in fact, need to remove network manager first.      I would try that & the free drivers.
[13:35] <usr13> Blinky_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[13:35] <Blinky_> usr13: I installed them yesterday and still had the same issue with it not auto connecting, however, I also lost my suspend function
[13:35] <kyle__> Blinky_: broadcom is like atheros.  When it works, it's lovely, when it doesn't, you want to put your machine in a chipper shredder.
[13:35] <IceBot3000> Be aware that non-free firmware could compromise your system
[13:36] <tushar> hoe to make my file exceutable?
[13:36] <kyle__> IceBot3000: I know, I know.  Although that's pretty unlikely.
[13:36] <kyle__> tushar: chmod.  It changes modes.  +x is adding the execute permission
[13:36] <usr13> Blinky_: Hybernate and / or suspend are often problematic when it comes to WiFi connection.
[13:36] <Thor> IceBot3000: be aware, your cpu might compromise your system ;)
[13:36] <kyle__> tsimpson: So chmod a+x will tell it EVERYONE can execute the file.
[13:37] <kyle__> s/tsimpson/tushar
[13:37] <Blinky_> usr13: So I have found out, I have had nothing but issues with suspend.  I have to use a previous kernel to maintain suspend at the moment as well as not installing the drivers for the wireless
[13:37] <IceBot3000> Thor: True, best to trust no-one
[13:37] <Blinky_> usr13: so am I doomed to have to manually start my wifi on boot?
[13:38] <Thor> IceBot3000: let's make our own x86 cpus!
[13:38] <usr13> Blinky_: No, I wouldn't say that.
[13:38] <Thor> Open source x86 architecture, would be kinda cool
[13:39] <usr13> Blinky_: When it boots, (and is not yet working), what do you see in the output of iwconfig
[13:39] <Thor> (too bad it's not possible since x86 is owned and licensed by intel...)
[13:39] <IceBot3000> I believe the Russian government is looking to start using their own ARM implementation to replace x86, so the security is indeed an issue
[13:39] <Blinky_> usr13: two secs and I will reboot and find out
[13:39] <guideX> 8.04, team viewer, .deb file says "The package is of bad quality" then there's these details .. http://pastebin.com/CMLp6qbj
[13:39] <_Crash_Laptop> anyone know how i can uninstall ffmpeg even though i ran "dpkg -r ffmpeg" and "sudo apt-get remove --purge ffmpeg" which says it cannot be found?
[13:39] <usr13> Blinky_: Ok
[13:41] <bcvery> guideX, what is the output of cat /etc/issue
[13:41] <guideX> hmm let me check 1 second..
[13:41] <tushar> how to change the directory in terminal?
[13:41] <usr13> Blinky_: Also:  rfkill list
[13:41] <sveta> tushar, use 'cd new/dir/'
[13:41] <IceBot3000> tushar: What is a search engine...
[13:41] <tushar> I need to go to the Software drive
[13:41] <sveta> tushar, look for it in /media
[13:41] <guideX> empty
[13:42] <guideX> nothing in or inside of /etc/issue
[13:42] <bcvery> guideX, Did you run the command I gave you?
[13:42] <guideX> oh no I thought it was for the other guy, let me try one second..
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> guideX: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[13:42] <Blinky_> usr13: Now the rfkill list is interesting soft-block both hp-wifi and hp-bluetooth (although the wifi card I recently install has no bluetooth) and hard-block phy0: wireless lan
[13:43] <Blinky_> usr13: iwconfig shows tx-power=off ESSID:off/any access point not-associated
[13:43] <guideX> it says natty
[13:44] <philinux> _Crash_Laptop;~ what does apt-cache policy ffmpeg say
[13:44] <bcvery> !natty
[13:44] <guideX> I'm aware of that, was just hoping someone had tried it in here
[13:44] <bcvery> guideX, 11.04 is no longer supported, sorry
[13:45] <ddv> _Crash_Laptop: probably the wrong package name?
[13:45] <_Crash_Laptop> philinux, http://pastebin.com/mzrka5qb
[13:45] <ddv> _Crash_Laptop: or already uninstalled
[13:45] <_Crash_Laptop> i just removed the binary via /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[13:45] <bdbear> BLinkey_: yea im still here, was just gaming;)
[13:45] <_Crash_Laptop> and tried installing it againvia compiling but i just get "-bash: /usr/bin/ffmpeg: No such file or directory
[13:45] <_Crash_Laptop> "
[13:46] <usr13> Blinky_: What did rfkill list say?
[13:46] <Blinky_> bdbear: what you playing
[13:46] <Blinky_> usr13: soft-block both hp-wifi and hp-bluetooth (although the wifi card I recently install has no bluetooth) and hard-block phy0: wireless lan
[13:46] <guideX> even though, there's no support, is there perhaps an older version of team viewer which will still work with 8.04?
[13:47] <IceBot3000> guideX: Negative
[13:47] <bdbear> Blinkey_. wargame: european escalation. Did you manage to get your wlan to start on boot?
[13:47] <philinux> _Crash_Laptop;~ what does sudo apt-get purge ffmpeg give?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> guideX: I'd suggest you wipe Natty off and do a fresh install of Trusty. Trusty is LTS and supported til April 2019
[13:48] <usr13> Blinky_: Ok, it says "hard-block"  on the  phy0: wireless lan?
[13:48] <_Crash_Laptop> philinux, The following packages will be REMOVED:
[13:48] <_Crash_Laptop>   ffmpeg* - i accepted
[13:48] <guideX> ActionParsnip: Oh, I'd really like to, but I have a web application I keep failing to setup on other newer ubuntu's, something in one of the required components isn't working in the newer ubuntu's
[13:48] <usr13> Blinky_: "hard-block" indicates the hardware switch is turned off.
[13:48] <Blinky_> bdbear: No we are still working on that.  I did what you suggested and it didn't work, did make the boot very slow when the screen told me it had waited more then 60 seconds for the network configuration to finish
[13:48] <Blinky_> usr13: yep
[13:48] <guideX> ActionParsnip: So I'm stuck in this older, unsupported version
[13:48] <NthDegree> guideX, you could use 12.04LTS
[13:48] <usr13> Blinky_: What kind of switch is it?
[13:48] <usr13> Blinky_: F-key?
[13:49] <NthDegree> guideX, 12.04LTS is still supported and is older
[13:49] <_Crash_Laptop> philinux, now i got - http://pastebin.com/6YkZNHGx
[13:49] <_Crash_Laptop> philinux, when purging
[13:49] <Blinky_> usr13: push button just above the keyboard
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> guideX: you can reinstall the newer version.   (Is there an indicator light?
[13:49] <guideX> oh I'm stuck, I keep trying to move this thing, and it wont work on anything except 8.04
[13:49] <NthDegree> guideX, what is it?
[13:50] <guideX> it's a php zend framework 1 webapp
[13:50] <NthDegree> guideX, install Zend Server then
[13:50] <NthDegree> it's OS-independent and certified backwards-compatible
[13:50] <philinux> _Crash_Laptop;~ what does apt-cache policy ffmpeg say now
[13:50] <guideX> hmm I'm not really sure, something fails during setup on newer versions
[13:50] <guideX> I've tried to upgrade, or switch numerous times
[13:51] <NthDegree> guideX, http://www.zend.com/en/products/server/free-edition <-- test it under that
[13:51] <usr13> Blinky_: I'm confused as to whether it's "hard-blocked" or "soft-blocked".  If it is hard-blocked, nothing we can do but to manually switc it on.  If it is soft-blocked, we can use rfkill unblock to turn it back on. (You could put a line in /etc/rc.local ).
[13:51] <guideX> hmm ok, i'll check it out
[13:51] <hyper320> i cant start ubuntu on my laptop
[13:51] <NthDegree> guideX, if you can get it running under Zend Server then you're safe to use any Ubuntu version =]
[13:51] <_Crash_Laptop> philinux, http://pastebin.com/6wKxkYbr
[13:51] <hyper320> i put my HDD in the laptop but it doesnt start
[13:51] <NthDegree> guideX, also notice they have all the ancient PHP versions still supported too ;-)
[13:52] <Blinky_> usr13: Just as it starts the os the wireless button turn blue, which is on, then when you enter the password to go to the desktop it turns itself off, orange.
[13:52] <Blinky_> usr13: I tried to turn it on using the button but it does not work
[13:52] <philinux> _Crash_Laptop;~ i guess you could manually remove those 2 directories in the warning
[13:53] <guideX> hmm I don't know, i've already tried 12.10, 14, fedora 20 and debian, and in each case, my php webapp has a white screen, and no error is reported
[13:53] <philinux> _Crash_Laptop;~ me i'd just leave em
[13:53] <Blinky_> usr13: even now sitting here after a boot it is orange, If I press it nothing happens.
[13:53] <guideX> only when I use 8.04, can I get it working at all
[13:53] <hyper320> how can i adjust my settings to get it running on my laptop?
[13:53] <usr13> Blinky_: If it is a softblock problem you can use rfkill phy0|type (where type is really what it is).
[13:53] <guideX> I'm not really sure why
[13:53] <Blinky_> usr13: it is like ubunut has stopped the button from working?!
[13:53] <bdbear> guideX: why dont you issolate that application inside an vm? and then run everything else outside it.
[13:53] <usr13> Blinky_: See if it is blocked with rfkill
[13:53] <guideX> hmm that's a good idea, I should try that
[13:53] <IceBot3000> You need to turn on error reporting in the PHP config or the top-level index.php of the website if you just get a white screen. Errors are most likely being surpressed by default
[13:54] <philinux> _Crash_Laptop;~ i have nothing in /user/local/share/man at all
[13:54] <Blinky_> usr13: phy0 is still hard blocked
[13:54] <usr13> Blinky_: Orange and Blue light may also tell us whether it's connected or disconnected.  (Not sure...)
[13:54] <guideX> well I get through gthe real errors, like pdo drivers, memcache, other things, then there's just no error, and white screen
[13:54] <ogle> aljo ?
[13:54] <_Crash_Laptop> philinux, hmmmm, what do you think i should do? It seems like its not installing the ffmpeg binary at all
[13:54] <hyper320> hateball it doesnt work, i installed Ubuntu twice with both HDD's from my laptop but it still doesnt start
[13:54] <X2> hyper320 in BIOS
[13:54] <Blinky_> usr13: when the connection is made to the wireless the button WILL turn blue
[13:55] <philinux> _Crash_Laptop;~ sudo updatedb then locate ffmpeg
[13:55] <usr13> Blinky_: Yea, laptops are kind of tricky. You have hard-block  and  soft-block and it's a bit hard to figure out what to do, you just have to tinker ...
[13:55] <hyper320> X2 i can enter Gnome2
[13:55] <usr13> Blinky_: Ok that is good info.
[13:56] <Blinky_> usr13: So how would I stop something being hard clocked on boot?
[13:56] <Blinky_> blocked even
[13:56] <usr13> Blinky_: That would be a BIOS issue.
[13:56] <Blinky_> usr13: Bios?
[13:56] <usr13> Blinky_: But, usually, if it's turned off when you shut down, it will be off when you boot up again.
[13:56] <philinux> _Crash_Laptop;~ do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade to see if all is well
[13:57] <Blinky_> usr13:If it was a BIOS issue would that not present itself in Windows?
[13:57] <usr13> Blinky_: I don't know. Does it?
[13:57] <Blinky_> usr13: No
[13:57] <usr13> Blinky_: So this is a dual-boot system?
[13:58] <Blinky_> usr13: Only ever had this problem when I install Linux
[13:58] <_Crash_Laptop> philinux, thanks, the locate ffmpeg showed a lot of directories with relevance to ffmpeg, but i'm running the upgrade now
[13:58] <hateball> hyper320: any reason you're not installing it on the system it's supposed to be in?
[13:58] <Blinky_> usr13: Yeah, Win 7 and Ubuntu
[13:58] <usr13> Blinky_: Ok so it's dual-boot. Ok.   sometimes that is an issue.  ...
[13:58] <hyper320> my DVD drive is broken and my BIOS doesnt support USB legecy
[13:58] <St_Marx> Blinky_ : I've just joined, but from what I've read so far, you had installed a linux on a laptop that had an UEFI boot partition (and probably Windows) and now your wifi cannot start, and rfkill help, right?
[13:58] <philinux> _Crash_Laptop;~ if no errors with package system you could clean up the left over stuff manually
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> hyper320: do you have a floppy drive?
[13:58] <hyper320> no
[13:59] <Blinky_> St_Marx: Nearly, it does not have a UEFI Bios
[13:59] <usr13> Blinky_: Try turning it off and on with rfkill
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> hyper320: is it a desktop PC?
[13:59] <philinux> _Crash_Laptop;~ in 14.04 ffmpeg package does not exist. replaced with fork called avconf
[13:59] <hyper320> a install over LAN would be to much afford
[13:59] <hyper320> no its a laptop
[14:00] <Blinky_> St_Marx: Its an old HP Mini 311, I do have a dual boot, wifi will start IF I select to enable it, then it works fine.
[14:00] <_Crash_Laptop> philinux, yeah i'm having to compile ffmpeg for something else
[14:00] <philinux> _Crash_Laptop;~ if left over stuff small i'd just leave em
[14:00] <Blinky_> St_Marx: For some reason I have both hard and soft blocks stopping it on boot.  Network-manager is told to auto connect to the network without success
[14:00] <St_Marx> good, for it would be a bad news, from my experience: I had to open a U310 Lenovo, and thus void the warranty , just to re-insert the battery, in order to be able to access the BIOS
[14:01] <bdbear> Hyper320: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1599293
[14:01] <delt> Hello
[14:01] <philinux> _Crash_Laptop;~ i prefer a gui these days for converting stuff
[14:02] <_Crash_Laptop> philinux, its on ubuntu server, for SErviio
[14:02] <delt> besides VirtualBox and vmware, what other virtualization software exists, and is available in the ubuntu repos?
[14:02] <bdbear> delt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualMachines
[14:02] <delt> vbox runs quite nice, but has a rather high audio latency, and has problems with my midi keyboard :(
[14:02] <delt> bdbear: thanks
[14:02] <St_Marx> Blinky_: but I wasn't able to access the BIOS at all, and it had something to do with UEFI and my installation that ran over complete hard disk
[14:03] <philinux> _Crash_Laptop;~ ah, beyond my knowledge server stuff
[14:03] <tushar> kyle__, its now happening
[14:03] <_Crash_Laptop> philinux, as long as this issue goes away, i'm fine :)
[14:03] <IceBot3000> Use VMWare if you want something decent, VirtualBox is barely maintained
[14:03] <bdbear> Delt: My recommondation for viritualization are vmware esxi, vmware workstation or vmware player. (the rest are just blah) vmware works
[14:03] <Blinky_> St_Marx: I am a little confused mate, did I write that?
[14:03] <jophish> Yo
[14:03] <guideX> esx, virtualbox
[14:03] <usr13> _Crash_Laptop: http://askubuntu.com/questions/373322/how-to-replace-avconv-with-the-real-ffmpeg-and-have-it-work-right
[14:04] <jophish> I've found some n^2 behaviour using apt-get remove
[14:04] <jophish> uninstalling a bunch of kernels, it runs grub-update for every one, not just after the last one
[14:04] <Blinky_> usr13: I ran sudo rfkill unblock all and the connection has started
[14:04] <tushar> anyone know how to make my file executable in My Software drive?
[14:05] <usr13> Blinky_: So put it in /etc/rc.local
[14:05] <St_Marx> Blinky_: after installing linux, I played with the wifi for a while, and turned it off, through OS... my point is that after that switching, wifi wasn't functional at all, even though Network manager reckognised it
[14:05] <bdbear> tushar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions (maby that will help)
[14:06] <usr13> Blinky_: But again, rfkill is kind of that way, if turned off, it will be turned off on next reboot, if on, it will be on next reboot, (at least, it seems to have worked that way for me once, not positive but...)
[14:06] <hyper320> bdbear thank you, but its hard to follow for a newbie
[14:07] <bdbear> hyper320: it arent that hard. Ill PM you and assist you.
[14:07] <usr13> Blinky_: But again, if you put the rfkill unblock command in /etc/rc.local, it *should* fix it for you, I would think.
[14:08] <Blinky_> usr13: I have just editted the file and am rebooting now to test
[14:08] <usr13> Blinky_: Cool
[14:08] <sadistic1heart> hi all
[14:08] <_Crash_Laptop> philinux, -bash: /usr/bin/ffmpeg: No such file or directory
[14:08] <Blinky_> usr13: How can I view the boot report/log, to see what happens during the boot process
[14:09] <usr13> Blinky_: The escape key I think
[14:09] <usr13> Blinky_: Or you can remove the "quiet" switch from the grub configuration.
[14:09] <usr13> Blinky_: ... to make it permanent.
[14:10] <Blinky_> usr13: OK I placed rfkill unblock all into the rc.local just before the exit 0 and it has not worked.... As for the log does ubuntu not write the boot report to a log that you can view later?
[14:10] <usr13> Blinky_: dmesg
[14:11] <usr13> Blinky_: But is the executable bit set for /etc/rc.local ?
[14:11] <usr13> Blinky_: ls -l /etc/rc.local
[14:12] <usr13> Blinky_: What exactly does the command look like in the /etc/rc.local file.  (Show us. Copy and paste it.)
[14:12] <Vor> ok
[14:12] <Blinky_> -rwxr-xr-x root root 324
[14:12] <Vor> ?
[14:12] <Blinky_> rfkill unblock all
[14:12] <usr13> Blinky_: Show us the line.
[14:12] <Blinky_> thats it
[14:13] <usr13> Ok.
[14:13] <usr13> Blinky_: So look at dmesg
[14:14] <usr13> Blinky_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/452826/wireless-networking-not-working-after-resume-in-ubuntu-14-04
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> Blinky_: if you unload and reload the wifi module, does it start working?
[14:16] <Blinky_> ActionParsnip: How do I do that?
[14:19] <usr13> ActionParsnip: It is a BCM43224 ... FYI
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Blinky_: sudo lshw -C network    will show the network and its driver, you can then run:  sudo modprobe -r foo; sleep 3; sudo modprobe foo
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Blinky_: replace 'foo' with the module
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Blinky_: look for  driver=   in your output
[14:22] <DanC> is the .1 release of 14.04 out yet?
[14:24] <DanC> evidently not. http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ still shows 17-Apr-2014
[14:24] <Blinky_> ActionParsnip: did that on the disabled device and nothing
[14:24] <Blinky_> ActionParsnip: still disabled
[14:24] <Blinky_> One question is why does the rfkill unblock all work from the terminal but not on boot from the rc.local?
[14:28] <_Crash_Laptop> any idea how i can get rid ofd any borked directories for ffmpeg? when i run the command all i get is -bash: /usr/bin/ffmpeg: No such file or directory"
[14:28] <_Crash_Laptop> of*
[14:33] <battleaxe> Hello, this isn't ubuntu related but I just noticed it on my xubuntu 14.04 install - why are my folders not ordered properly here (sorting by filename column) http://imgur.com/FdC1rPA
[14:35] <dweez> are you properly sorting my Name?  Maybe you're sorting by Modified
[14:38] <bukkitserver> I am using Ubuntu 14.04 and having a problem with a startup script. it is written to run in init.d, the script calls for screen. when running the script, an error meeasge appears saying that it can not create the directory. How may I run the script after screen starts?
[14:39] <battleaxe> dweez: hmm, i don't think so... I just ran 'ls' in a terminal window in that directory, and Austin Powers III still comes before Austin Powers I and II :P
[14:39] <battleaxe> btw apologies for my poor taste in movies
[14:40] <dweez> lol, I love the AP movies
[14:40] <dweez> not sure then.  So it shows up like this both in the GUI and cli?
[14:41] <dweez> well, if we ignore the "I"'s, then they are in alphabetical order so maybe it's doing that (although I have no clue why it would do that
[14:41] <battleaxe> yeah, it seems to be too smart for its own good.
[14:42] <dweez> and sadly, we see that a lot
[14:42] <dweez> is it ironic or just funny that "sysadmin" can't identify?
[14:45] <Rohan_> can a script made for init.d be placed in the upstart init and work fine?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> !away > smethia_afk
[14:48] <Rohan_> ActionParsnip: I have a script to start a server in init.d, however it requires screen for best results. When booting it appears to me in the boot.log to hang because it can write to the screen dir, as it hasn't loaded yet. If I copy the contents of the script and put in rc.local, it start fine. Can I somehow make the init.d file start after screen?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Rohan_: does it need to run as root?
[14:49] <Rohan_> ActionParsnip: I added a line in the sudoer that gives this user the permission to run this as root no password I beleive
[14:50] <Rohan_> ActionParsnip: here is the script site: https://github.com/superjamie/minecraft-init-script
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Rohan_: if you make a script and add it to /etc/rc.local  but backgrounded it will work
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> Rohan_: in the script, have 2 commands. One is a sleep (to allow the screen to load), then the command itself
[14:51] <Rohan_> ActionParsnip: I did do that and it did work, however I emailed the script writer, and I was told that was very bad form
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> Rohan_: with the script backgrounded, the boot will continue but the execution of the command will be delayed
[14:51] <denixx> Rohan_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860295&page=3
[14:52] <Dako300> Is it possible to overclock a Radeon HD 6450 inside of the free drivers?
[14:52] <Rohan_> ActionParsnip: I did try putting in a sleep command in the script, sleep 1, in the boot.log it showed that it started the server, loaded the world file, then nothing else. upon finishing the boot, the server was not started
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Rohan_: you'll need longer than sleep 1
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Rohan_: try 10 or 15
[14:53] <denixx> This is how I launch x11vnc in xubuntu. Just a script in /etc/init with "start on login-session-start script [content] end script"
[14:53] <RedSkyDown> hi. how I can set a proxy to be use for all command line like curl?
[14:54] <Rohan_> ActionParsnip: I looked at the link you sent me, I didn't see anything relateable, was it for me?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> RedSkyDown: export http_proxy=address
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> RedSkyDown: export ftp_proxy=,,,,
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> RedSkyDown: etc
[14:56] <Rohan_> ActionParsnip: I will reboot and try with a sleep 20, brb
[14:56] <denixx> Hi all. I have a problem with my laptop wireless card in linux (xubuntu or kali, you choose). It is a wifi(abgn)+BT4.0 miniPCI-E half module from Atheros. FCC ID is PPD-AR5B22 (wikidevi have info about it: https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Atheros_AR5B22 ). The problem is that loading to linux (e.g. xubuntu 14.04 livecd) somehow disables BT at all, even Windows can't see it after loading to Windows.
[14:56] <denixx> What helps return back bluetooth work at least in Windows is insert back my BCM943228HMB ( https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Broadcom_BCM943228HMB ) and again load to linux, because only linux enables back BT (I tried to load Windows after I inserted Broadcom module and Windows did not see the BT).
[14:58] <Dako300> Is it possible to overclock a Radeon HD 6450 via the free drivers?
[14:58] <denixx> I have no useful data on my laptop so I can provide acces to it, if it is needed.
[14:59] <Rohan_> ActionParsnip: I tried sleep 20. It gives me the line that lets me know the script started, then probably hit sleep, then nothing else in the boot.log, and still no server running. Where can I find more details to what may have happened?
[15:00] <denixx> Rohan_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860295&page=3 that was for you. This is how I launch x11vnc in xubuntu. Just a script in /etc/init with "start on login-session-start script [content] end script"
[15:01] <denixx> Rohan_: x11vnc should be launched when screen is initialized, so that thing helped me.
[15:02] <Rohan_> denixx: Got it. This server runs as its own user, and the script handles other items like backing up the server etc.
[15:05] <tpw_rules> good morning. i'd like to stop a service from starting on boot
[15:05] <tpw_rules> it's not upstart, i know that much