 @AlexanderPlaza, Sounds like a hardware issue. I've had it happen on different devices throughout the years.
 Mmm just gotta find a replacement screen and see if that’s the problem
 @jacob_morosco, https://www.androidauthority.com/psa-project-fi-phones-792301/
 probally similar, all the extra network switching stuff probally won't work like expected
 looks like you will only get the tmobile part
 Update coming today
 @John_athan, ?
 Rc weekly update
 does anyone know if there is any MTK-specific code in Mir or somewhere else for MediaTek HDMI control?
 I'm sure it had to be done for Ubuntu Tablet, as hdmi port is controlled by ioctls to /dev/hdmitx
 in Android, there are Java frameworks and JNI code that handles this, it could be based on, but I'd really like to reuse existing solution if there is any
 https://github.com/yuan1617/Framwork/blob/master/frameworks/base/services/core/jni/com_mediatek_hdmi_MtkHdmiManagerService.cpp - that's what I'm talking about on Android side
 I guess could be grepped by "hdmitx"
 Ub ports support Sony Xperia so c5303?
 Sp c5303
 No
 Hi, I noticed a wrong translation: instead of Never it is displayed: Aldrig
 using Ubuntu 16.04 (2018-07-04) on a N5, Language English (UK)
 Open ah bug report 😃
 done
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/742
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/nwh0OL9l.webp
 @koni_raid, You can fix it yourself :) https://translate.ubports.com/translate/ubports/system-settings/en_GB/?checksum=&offset=&q=Aldrig&search=substring&source=on&target=on&type=all&ignored=False
[08:29] <ubptgbot> Quantumechanic was added by: Quantumechanic
 Any /saved stuff here ?
 Welcome @Quantumechanic !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @Bolly, That was too early :)
 @Quantumechanic as it seems you're interested in the history of this group, you can click on Information and access to all the pubished material 👍
 @advocatux, Sure :D
 :)
 @advocatux, Id want the manifest link :P
 @koni_raid, Well it is Old Norse, so close 😎
 @NotKit, I would guess it's handled in kernel level?
 @NotKit, The Android Hardware c API can controll the outputs, and yes the android mir platform has Code that drives that
 The c API is rather clumsy and assumes/requires a single threaded compositon loop
 Ah those are output configurations that are probably   exposed through that side channel
 @advocatux, done!
 👍
[12:03] <ubptgbot> SelectaSnoop was added by: SelectaSnoop
 [Edit] Ah those are secondary output configurations that are probably   exposed through that side channel
 Hi! Is anyone with Pro5 experiencing strange behaviour with cellular data? Mine isn't going beyond the Edge connection, in places where other phones with same mobile operator, and other operators are working well, even with 4G. … Ia there a known issue about Pro5's cellular data connection going slow, or it could be a hardware problem
[12:53] <ubptgbot>  of my Pro5?
 @anpok, on tablet or in general? It seems output needs to enabled through /dev/hdnitx first, which is not mapped to hardware API
 In general.. The display API knows one external one virtual output, next to the primary.. I would assume that the mtk display service impl maps that but with less detail..
 https://android.googlesource.com/platform/hardware/libhardware/+/master/include/hardware/hwcomposer.h a service should implement the hw_composer_device interface.. This is what mir uses to enable and configure the external output..
 @anpok, Long time no see xd
 Yes I am back.. Finishing the Sony Port.. My wife needs a new phone
 And too much overtime at Siemens
 @Pgcor, Things like that are related to the baseband firmware.. Afaik out of reach of the linux kernel
 Good to hear Andi. A lot of things happened meanwhile xD
 Is there a better tool / way to get the barcode from an image, than using zbarimg ? (i takes 4-5s on the OnePlus One and 0,04s on my PC)
 Yeah I saw the nice halium install script..
 @dohbee, from the beginning of the 16.04  i always experienced this kind of behaviours ..  and still with the last update of today.. for me was about 390 mb .. it lasted about 3 min but the line never moved from 278 mb .. until install in the end.. meanwhile system settings it is kinda freezed
 nexus 5
 @Pgcor, Look in the ubports forum.. There are people with the same problems and solutions
 enyone  here have installed 16.04 rc on nexus 5?
 @anpok, This is awesome news! :)
 @anpok, I got a sony device im have my heart set on, snapdragon 845 and usb 3.1 with native displayport. convergence dream phone
 @anpok, [Edit] I got a sony device I have my heart set on, snapdragon 845 and usb 3.1 with native displayport. convergence dream phone
 just needs to find some freetime to port it 😅
 @anpok, Awesome! :D Is this something thats ready for a spot on the system-image server maybe??
 I can push the device Manifest.. Halium and plasma will work.. Still issues with apparmor (maybe)
 The recent Lineage changes made device repo changes minimal.. There are Just a bunch of errors in themuppets
 humm ok, does it have the kernel backports for apparmor?
 @anpok, This is really cool and awesome!
 Yeah I added it..
 Something might have gone wrong there.. Also the kernel has seen a lot of changes from Sony..
 @mariogrip, And the other 18 phones you've got on your desk :P
 It would be good to have another few pairs of eyes
 @anpok, sure, got the src somewhere?
 All your sources are belong to us
 huh?
 https://github.com/ubports/android_kernel_sony_msm8994
 Already there..
 ah ok, will see if i find something
 https://github.com/ubports/android_kernel_sony_msm8994/blob/halium-7.1/arch/arm64/configs/kitakami_sumire_defconfig
[15:05] <ubptgbot> Kai Plan was added by: Kai Plan
[15:06] <ubptgbot> <Kai Plan> Hey there, sorry to bother you guys, but I try to install UBPorts on Oneplus One Takes like hours "Flashing Images" with the UBports installer. how long would be normal?
[15:15] <rouji> a few minutes at most for me
 -.- It´s the second oneplus one I seem to waste. should be easy though - activate developer mode, connect to pc, start installer, choose model, start fastboot - wait a few minutes at most - have fun, Not for me.
[15:18] <rouji> mind you I've had my share of odd problems with the installer
[15:18] <rouji> not a fan of the local webapp nonsense
[15:19] <rouji> but if it does work correctly, it's fairly quick
 is there a good install guide to do it by hand?
[15:19] <rouji> I'd like to know that too
 @anpok, basically UBPorts won't detect display on Gemini
 I guess in case it was exposed by display API, nothing special would be needed?
 https://outerspace.ga/static.php?id=18
 @Mikhail_outerspace keep it on topic
 what?
 Fwd from UniversalSuperBox: @Mikhail_outerspace keep it on topic
 what about displaylink and connection with superBook?
[15:54] <ubptgbot> balcy was added by: balcy
 @Kai_Plan, is your device unlocked? did you install adb and fastboot? did you try to clear ubports installer's cache? there is a welcome group that can help you to solve this tipe of problems..
 thx for the help. I can start into Ubports recovery, but it won´t boot up to the regular startscreen
 I think I change to teh welcome group :)
 What is libertine?
 https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/libertine.html
 allows to run desktop apps on the phone
 @Kai_Plan, First boot takes a long time
 After it is done flashing just let it do its think, I remember I thought it failed on mine
 Well, I fire it up again. last time I let it run over night.
 Hm, well not that long...
[17:31] <ubptgbot> Pascal was added by: Pascal
 Is it possible to install the current Ubuntu Touch OTA-3, on the latest Fairphone 2 ? Has the « blue screen » bus been fixed ? Thanks !
 Yes and yes
 Thx ! What’s the best way, ubports-installer, or a shell script (Debian or Ubuntu) to get the things done ?
 ubports-installer is preferrable.
 Thx !!!
 @NotKit yes .. is the source for the display service somewhere?
 or hwcomposer..
 I think qdisplay is the name of the service on qualcom devices..
 @anpok, Correct
 I hate seeing "qdisplay.service died" in logcat 😝
 yes.. @NotKit also next to knowing that a display is attached - the api is also used for posting frame buffers - so if it is not exposed - how would the android port work then?
[18:57] <ubptgbot> Pasi was added by: Pasi
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[20:22] <ubptgbot> Milos was added by: Milos
[20:35] <ubptgbot> Yugal_Patil was added by: Yugal_Patil
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[00:10] <Tech-1> EvilResistance:  why dont you start being decent and not try to be the internet police, ever since you logged on, you have been nothing but bossy and intervening, grow up.
[00:26] <jjman6> how can i run a shell script and force it to install on 64bit (its meant for 32bit)
[00:33] <frogonwheels> jjman6: you  mean you have an installer shell script for a program  rather than a proper installer?
[00:33] <frogonwheels> *proper package (.deb) is what I meant.
[00:33] <jjman6> frogonwheels: yes, i have an install script that wants to be in 32bit but i'm running 64bit so iwanna force it to install
[00:34] <jjman6> i know it will run on 64bit as others have run it.  i just don't know how to force the install
[00:34] <jjman6> i don't have a package
[00:35] <jjman6> i know i could use -force-all if it were a pkg but its not
[00:35] <Snowhog> jjman6: Do you have ia32-libs installed?
[00:35] <jjman6> not sure.  perhaps not  ;-|
[00:35] <jjman6> will that allow the install to go through if i do?
[00:37] <jjman6> i know i can run 32bit Wine
[00:38] <jjman6> ia32-libs are already installed
[00:38] <Snowhog> jjman6: It permits the running (at least) of 32-bit apps on a 64-bit linux system. However, if the script, as I suspect, is expecting the file system structure of a 32-bit system, it still might not install if it can't find the directories it expects.
[00:39] <jjman6> hmmm.  i've read of other ppl running this app (its a game btw) fine in 64bit.  so there must be a way around the 32bit install barrier.  i already had the ia32-libs installed
[01:03] <jjman6> Snowhog: i think i figured out a way.  linux32 bash scriptname let me install it.  i had to modify the script to point the proper 32bit libs but its installed now.
[02:06] <Snowhog> jjman6: Cool. Glas you got it done.
[02:47] <bodoh> hallo .. how to install java plugin for mozilla?
[02:47] <bodoh> this thing is getting more and more esoteric after Oracle take it over
[02:48] <bodoh> sooner or later we have to pay for that .. thanks Larry .. the greedy Steve Job friend
[02:52] <bodoh> steve jobs .. arabo .. satan .. larry oracle ... same shit
[05:04] <OrdosTrinitus__> anyone out there awake?
[05:24] <w30> What application should I use to install KDE themes that I downloaded from kde-themes.org?
[06:07] <bdizzle1> hi, quick qeustion, where can I get help on using Wine?
[06:08] <bdizzle1> nevermind, got it
[08:26] <davi> how i can help?
[08:31] <Guillem> I've installed kubuntu-desktop from fresh ubuntu install. Muon (Software updates) does not install packages: "This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided". Any way to fix this?
[08:37] <ikonia> what operation ?
[08:39] <Guillem> ikonia, it is muon-updater; when trying to update packages. I've googled a bit and I've seen that doing "kdesudo muon" or "kdesudo muon-updater" works. However, gnome's update-manager does not require sudo nowadays.
[08:40] <Guillem> Problem is that you get an icon at the system-tray, you click it and you cannot progress. You have to either use update-manager (gnome's) or kdesudo muon-updater
[08:56] <ikonia> Guillem: gnomes update manager does require sudo
[08:58] <Guillem> ikonia, I cannot check it since I'm updated now. But I recall it does not in this last 11.10. And at previous versions it prompted for sudo password....
[08:58] <ikonia> Guillem: it does require sudo privileges
[08:59] <ikonia> Guillem: no package may be installed without root privileges
[08:59] <Guillem> ikonia, I'm it sudoers, but I'm pretty sure it does not ask for password... but OK, I'll recheck.
[08:59] <Guillem> in
[09:00] <ikonia> Guillem: it won't ask for a password if you already have an elevated privileges session active
[09:03] <Guillem> ikonia, I may be wrong, but since I installed 11.10 (and used unity/gnome3 messes for a while) I have the impression that sudo password is not required for upgrading packages. I cannot throughly check this at this moment but I will when new upgrades are available
[09:03] <ikonia> you are incorrect
[09:04] <Unit193> ikonia: Please see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/policykit-desktop-privileges/+changelog
[09:04] <ikonia> yes ?
[09:05] <Unit193> "* Allow local admins to update already installed software without password." I would assuem you could update without a password prompt
[09:05] <ikonia> correct,
[09:05] <ikonia> re-read what I said
[09:05] <ikonia> and what the change is
[09:05] <ikonia> "local admin"
[09:06] <ikonia> and "elevated privileges session"
[09:06] <ikonia> that doesn't mean sudo privileges are not required, it means they are applied to existing admin users/sessions
[09:07] <ikonia> the actual entering of the password isn't important, the fact that the sessions has elevated privileges is the key
[09:07] <Unit193> Aye, you just don't need to enter the password if your user has the privs (but not root)
[09:08] <ikonia> correctr
[09:08] <ikonia> correct even
[10:15] <new2net> arp -a ....  ? (<IP_ADDRESS>) at <incomplete> on eth0, How can that be?
[10:16] <Belial> new2net: Assuming its the same as a switch ro router, you sent an ARP request and it has yet to rec. a reply
[10:17] <new2net> i see...
[10:18] <new2net> i have no iptable rules set. I can't imagine why i cant talk w/ this other machine
[10:19] <Belial> Does it work from another on the same subnet?
[10:20] <new2net> good question
[10:23] <new2net> Belial, Maybe my machine is confused, the mac address used to be at ..2.3 but its at ..2.5
[10:27] <new2net> Belial, it was me who was confused; lease expired. Thank you for answering my question though about <incomplete>
[10:27] <Belial> Np :)
[10:34] <erik1397> hi
[10:35] <new2net> hi
[10:35] <new2net> that was a short visit
[11:40] <SteJay> Greetings all
[11:41] <SteJay> Having updated to Kubuntu 11.10 it seems that Kbluetooth4 is no longer there. I can't find a package for it in the ubuntu repositories - any suggestions of how I can get a graphical bluetooth manager for KDE on 11.10 (oneric)?
[11:46] <qbit> SteJay: not entirely sure but ou may be looking for the bluedevil package
[11:47] <qbit> SteJay: I think it brings in a kcm module into systemsettings
[11:51] <SteJay> thanks qbit - I did just spot that package and am installing it now...
[11:55] <SteJay> Woohoo, we're all clear kid (or "thanks qbit, all sorted" if that's your preference
[11:55] <SteJay> )
[11:56] <qbit> thanks for letting me know it works - eventually going to have to be getting around to that me own self
[12:03] <SteJay> No worries - point of note: For some reason updating to 11.10 also uninstalled Bluez so I had to install that too. Hope this helps :D
[12:37] <BluesKaj> hey all
[12:38] <SteJay> Hi BluesKaj :)
[12:39] <Peace-> BluesKaj: do you believe this is kde ? http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/19/plasma-desktopm10377.jpg
[12:39] <Peace-> hahhaha
[12:39] <Peace-> omg
[12:40] <SteJay> I do cause of the plasma icon in the top right :P
[15:44] <Guillem_> I cannot combine file-drag-and-drop with "present windows". The drag-and-drop triggers "present windows" when I reach the activation corner, but it does not stop when I select a window where drop to.
[15:45] <Guillem_> If I recall correctly, this just works fine at OpenSuSE 11.4 (KDE 4.6?)
[16:10] <Guillem_> It works, however, when present-windows is used as window switcher (ALT+Tab)
[16:39] <tonymc> can encfs folder be mounted so that two users could see it and no one else (including root)?
[17:07] <Zippa_13> Hi
[17:07] <BarkingFish> hi Zippa_13 :)
[17:07] <BarkingFish> Anything we can help you with?
[17:17] <genii-around> BarkingFish: Apparently not...
[17:18] <BarkingFish> ah well.  They come, they go
[17:48] <Zippa> Hi
[17:49] <genii-around> Zippa: Hello. If you have some question about your Kubuntu, just ask the question to the channel, and someone may answer
[17:50] <Zippa> How do I download wallpaper from kubuntu, because I had only one
[18:31] <happie> hi anyone i am new here and wanted to get started in contributing in kde .any suggestios please!
[18:34] <baffone85> hello
[18:34] <baffone85> i have a problem with wireless key rt2501usb
[18:35] <DarthFrog> happie: Do you want to contribute to KDE or to Kubuntu?  Are you a programmer?
[18:35] <happie> i am currently pursuing my graduation and yes i want to contribute.
[18:36] <baffone85> it don't connect to network
[18:36] <happie> i know c/c++ and little bit php
[18:37] <DarthFrog> happie: Well, if it's KDE, then go to www.kde.org.  If it's Kubuntu, go to www.kubuntu.org.  Those sites will have links for prospective developers.
[18:37] <baffone85> it doesn't connect to network but network work
[18:37] <baffone85> which is problem?
[19:06] <genii-around> !contribute
[19:31] <ben_> I'm finding kubuntu rather buggy (11.10 x64), I keep getting notifications that there's updates available, opening the muon doesn't give me any indication where the updates are located, and googling "installing updates kubuntu" gives me a bunch of deprecated information
[19:31] <ben_> How do I install updates?
[19:31] <ben_> I think they should have held off on switching to muon until someone actually QAed it
[19:33] <ben_> I installed update manager, and it shows no updates, how do I get the notification to stop appearing in KDE?
[19:40] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!!
[19:43] <BluesKaj> ben , best to just uninstall udate manager and enable your choice of repos in apper or muon then use apt-get to update/upgrade
[19:45] <DoctorPepper> can anyone please help me , i have a small problem with knetworkmanager. i have a mobile broadband account with no pin  when connecting  i get the configuration widget twice  than i connect but  i dont understand why ? because on fedora , gentoo  and arch  this never happended  under kde
[19:57] <BluesKaj> doctorpepper,, perhaps you have both ethernet and wifi setup to connect
[19:59] <doctorpepper> BluesKaj:  the problem is with 3g modem connection
[20:00] <BluesKaj> doctorpepper, well, that's out of my experience
[20:30] <ben_> it prompted me to enter a passphrase to encrypt my hoem dir, I entered a passphrase, it didn't ask me to type it a second time, and that terminal window is doing nothing (the terminal window has not froze, but the app inside it will not respond to control+c/control+z)
[20:31] <ben_> Did anyone actually test kubuntu 11.10 before releasing it?
[20:31] <BluesKaj> ben_, what prompted you to encrypt your /home dir ?
[20:32] <ben_> it was an option in the installer BluesKa
[20:32] <ben_> I would prefer that if my hard drive were to go outside of my physical control that a person would not be able to check my home dir contents
[20:33] <ben_> sorry if I seem bitchy, but this really is poor software quality
[20:34] <BluesKaj> I upgrade thru the 'net or I use an alternate install , never bother with encryption , this being a home pc
[20:36] <ben_> I think you should encrypt the home dir on every install, home or not, if someone broke into your house and stole your PC, would you want them being able to get your bank passwords and such which are usually stored plaintext?
[20:37] <ben_> all they have to do is stick your HD into another PC and mount it if you don't encrypt anything
[20:37] <ben_> they could boot it up on your computer in single user mode, and then they have carte blanche to see whatever you've done  as a user
[20:44] <ben_> BluesKaj: Thanks for the recommendation on just using apt-get for handling updates
[20:45] <BluesKaj> ben_, well I have a pretty strong login pw and it's not stored anywhere on the pc
[20:46] <ben_> your login is inconsequential BluesKaj, if you do not encrypt your home dir, anyone with physical access to your HD or computer can access all your data
[20:46] <ben_> if you store any passwords in firefox, they're in plaintext
[20:46] <ben_> if you use pidgin, your passwords are stored in plaintext
[20:47] <ben_> if you use subversion with it not attached to kwallet or whatever, it's stored in plaintext
[20:47] <ben_> your browsing history is stored in plaintext
[20:47] <ben_> your shell history is stored in plaintext
[20:47] <ben_> _everyone_ should encrypt their home dir at the very least
[20:47] <BluesKaj> yeah , as if 90 % of B&E guys know anything about linux and ebcryption in this town :)
[20:49] <BluesKaj> ben_, methinks you give b&e types too much credit for brains
[20:49] <ben_> BluesKaj: perhaps, but I think a certain level of paranoia is healthy
[20:49] <BluesKaj> besides , I have 2 cops living right across the street
[20:51] <BluesKaj> and this isn't a metro area either ...I'm in the boonies of northern ontario
[20:52] <SunTsu> Well, to learn from http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/12/cables-scripts-manning/ - use as much encryption as you can
[20:52] <Torch> BluesKaj: it's the cops you should be afraid of ;-)
[20:52] <SunTsu> even full disk encryption if you can take the performance hit
[20:53] <BluesKaj> 2 girl cops ...they love me :)
[20:59] <ben_> I really don't care about full disk encryption since 99.9% of my private data is in my home dir, but I think that performance hit is worth it, I also think it's negligable on most modern machines
[21:00] <ben_> I sometimes worry about the page file/swap containing my keys though
[21:03] <Torch> using a ramdisk for tmp and an encrypted swap helps in that case
[21:09] <BluesKaj> too much in my /home, not enuff room on the hdd for a backup
[21:18] <ed8> hi there, I install last kubuntu (11.10) and I run on KDE 4.7.4. I've 2 problem, one is minor the other is more annoying and seems to be a regression
[21:18] <ed8> When I plug my headphones to my sound came out through laptop speaker AND headphones
[21:19] <ed8> it was working fine on previous version and still is on linux mint 11.04
[21:20] <EvilResistance> first i should mention mint isnt a supported derivative of ubuntu
[21:20] <EvilResistance> !mint
[21:20] <EvilResistance> that includes kubuntu
[21:21] <EvilResistance> secondly, since your issue is with Kubuntu, i'll mention patience, because you might need it to find the answers you seek
[21:21] <EvilResistance> thirdly, you've only mentioned one of two issues you stated.  if you ask both, one could be addressed before another
[21:26] <ed8> I mentioned Linux Mint as I was runnning on it before (version 11.04) and it was fine. Then upgrade to LM and Kubuntu 11.10, but got pissed off by unity and the same issue
[21:27] <ed8> So it's seems sound management get a bit messed up on newer release or kernel
[21:28] <ed8> the other issue is that one of my panel the one at the top appears at random place when I log-in
[21:30] <ed8> I need to unlock and change panel alignement to  whatever value so it "refresh" a place itself at the right place
[21:30] <EvilResistance> wait
[21:30] <EvilResistance> is this KDE or Gnome?
[21:30]  * EvilResistance has not seen a top panel on any of his 11.10 Kubuntu test systems
[21:31] <ed8> both are KDE issue
[21:32] <ed8> EvilResistance: never said it was fresh install, i add 2 panels
[21:34] <alessandro_> hello
[21:35] <ben_> other than my previous issues, I will say kubuntu 11.10 looks pretty slick
[21:36] <ed8> I tested with a set of external speakers, and sound come only trhough them. It's not my headphones, they work on my smartphone
[21:36] <ed8> it's seems to be an already met bugs: http://linux4unme.forumotion.com/t43-speakers-don-t-mute-when-headphones-are-plugged-in-speakers-headphones-at-the-same-time-s
[21:43] <jtheuer_> any kmail ppa packages that make kmail work again?
[21:46] <Torch> jtheuer_: what's the real problem? ;-)
[21:47] <BarkingFish> judging by the question, Torch - I'd probably say his kmail isn't working :P
[21:47] <BarkingFish> :)
[21:48] <Torch> BarkingFish: aww, comeon! what a wild guess! ;-)
[21:49] <BarkingFish> lol
[21:49] <Torch> jtheuer_: but we actually need more details to help you fix whatever problem you might have with kmail.
[21:49] <BarkingFish> I'm sorry, I have to have a sense of humor right now :)
[21:52] <Torch> BarkingFish: nothing wrong with that! ;-)
[21:54] <jtheuer_> sorry, I thought it is kind of a general fact that kmail doesn't work very well in oneiric ;-)
[21:55] <jtheuer_> so basically syncing imap fills up my free 10GB partition (which is also encrypted) so that I cannot use my system anymore ;-)
[21:55] <jtheuer_> before the upgrade I had roughly 2 GB of IMAP mails on that partition
[21:56] <Torch> jtheuer_: sounds bad. it actually started working well for me once i cleared all my previous kmail and akonadi settings.
[21:56] <jtheuer_> ok, could try that (migration didn't work anyway *g*)
[21:57] <frewo> hi. flash-plugin always crashes with firefox. is this a known issue? i use kubuntu 11.10.
[21:57] <frewo> flash-plugin non-free
[22:09] <BarkingFish> Does anyone know how to get rid of the little christmas hat and stuff on the VLC logo?
[22:10] <BarkingFish> I'm aware it's an easter egg, but it's one I hate.  The only way I can remove it at the moment is put my clock on KDE ahead by a month
[22:13] <Torch> BarkingFish: looks like it's compiled in as a qt resource
[22:13] <Torch> BarkingFish: so unless you want to rebuild the package ... ;-)
[22:14] <BarkingFish> No need, I think I just found what I wanted :)
[22:14] <BarkingFish> Posted by one of VLC's devs in their forums
[22:14] <BarkingFish> Re: Santa hat icon?
[22:14] <BarkingFish> Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:17 pm
[22:14] <BarkingFish> There is now an option to deactivate it.
[22:14] <BarkingFish> That's from the V 1.20 in their git repo
[22:15] <BarkingFish> all I can say is, Hallelujah :)
[22:15] <Torch> hehe
[22:25] <BarkingFish> Excellent, it's gone
[22:26] <BarkingFish> I discovered the skinnable interface, rather than hunting for the switchoff option, which it appears they've hidden - so we're no better off
[22:26] <BarkingFish> and the skinned interface doesn't use the santa hat at all :)  YAY
[22:36] <_calum> hi guys
[22:36] <haddock_> how do I change resolution of my second monitor in Oneiric ?
[22:36] <haddock_> I dont see any xorg.conf
[22:36] <haddock_> if there any extra software to handle such things ?
[22:37] <EvilResistance> haddock_:  it depends on your graphics card
[22:37] <EvilResistance> haddock_:  what card?
[22:37] <haddock_> thinkpad sl300. so its some intel shared stuff
[22:37] <EvilResistance> because each card sometimes comes with specific config software
[22:37] <EvilResistance> ah
[22:38] <_calum> I heard its possible to install unity alongside KDE desktop. Can I have them running alongside, so I can switch when I want to?
[22:38] <EvilResistance> haddock_:  did you try System Settings > Display and Monitor
[22:38]  * EvilResistance is on 11.04 btw, but that's the location for the display settings on mine
[22:38] <haddock_> EvilResistance: display manager says the Asus monitor can only go to 1024.
[22:39] <OerHeks> _calum, you could install gnome3 + unity alongside kubuntu yes, but you need to switch at login
[22:39] <haddock_> EvilResistance: did they change the X11 files ?
[22:39] <haddock_> EvilResistance: I thought there would be like a xorg.conf, and I could edit that then, but I dont see It.
[22:39] <Torch> you could actually run a second X server and start whatever dekstop environment you want there, but it's not totally trivial
[22:40] <_calum> OerHeks:Presumably it gives me the option to switch when my graphical login starts up?
[22:41] <_calum> I love the look of KDE but it would be nice if I could use unity if I wanted to
[22:43] <_calum> so I simply install unity or gnome from a terminal?
[22:44] <OerHeks> _calum, so yes, you can. eh i thougt sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:44] <_calum> thankyou
[22:47] <genii-around> If you want to run a different window manager inside a window on your desktop, there is also xserver-xephyr
[22:47] <genii-around> ( this is pretty resource heavy )
[22:48] <_calum> KDE so far appears to be pretty responsive on this machine
[22:49] <_calum> I was using Ubuntu before but decided to give it a try
[22:52] <_calum> what was this UI written in? QT?
[23:08] <Nickmh> Hi People,  Is there a definative site I can go for KDE usability tutorials? Installing themes, software catalogues etc. ?
[23:21] <genii-around> Nickmh: Pretty much everything at http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials also applies to Kubuntu
[23:21] <Nickmh> Thanks Geni
[23:22] <genii-around> Nickmh: You're welcome
[23:24] <Nickmh> Oh wow.  Geni. Thanks.  Great place to start.
[23:29] <nickamg> Good evening all
[23:30] <nickamg> Well I must admit, this is a lot better then Gnome 3
[23:31] <nickamg> damn quiet in here
[23:32] <BarkingFish> sorry nickamg - It's quite late in some places, and everyone who would normally be here may not necessarily be here :)
[23:32] <BarkingFish> anyway, what may we do to help you?
[23:33] <nickamg> ah yeah its like 11.30pm and i'm in bed with my laptop, I just popped in to say hey, I have just installed Kubuntu


[03:00] <guiverc> has anyone written today/yesterday's groovy ISO to thumb-drive & booted it.  Leok has recorded a passing test, second day in a row I can't get it booting
[03:01] <kc2bez> I haven't tried today.
[03:02] <kc2bez> guiverc: so you are aware, there is only one-way communication here. The irc bridge goes to Telegram but no one is seen on irc from the Telegram side.
[03:03] <kc2bez> also, I updated the shared doc for the wallpaper contest. You probably didn't see my message.
[03:04] <guiverc> nah sorry I didn't see a message
[03:04] <kc2bez> my fault. I didn't really check to see if you were online.
[03:04] <kc2bez> Timezones are tough sometimes.


[15:18] <gema> xnox: we are stuck , cannot install with utah in HW because of bug 1096943
[15:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1096943 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity freezes during nfs-based desktop install from recent live destkop images on physical hardware" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1096943
[15:18] <gema> xnox: bootspeed testing and power measurements are not able to run due to that
[15:19] <gema> xnox: are you the right person to contact on this, or shall I be talking to someone else?
[15:19] <gema> xnox: it started failing around 20th of December, really bad timing
[15:19] <gema> xnox: after the holidays we've been trying to determine whether it was any of the already raised bugs
[15:19] <ogra_> the last ubiquity upload was on dec. 5th
[15:20] <gema> ogra_: that's interesting, then it may not be in ubiquity
[15:20] <gema> any alternatives ideas welcome
[15:23] <jibel> gema, did you try with rc6 disabled as I suggested this morning, I found problems with i915 on MSI boards
[15:26] <ogra_> there was a partman-base upload on the 20th
[15:27] <ogra_> thats the only ubiquity related bit i see
[15:27] <gema> ogra_: that may be it, since it is failing when there is something already installed there
[15:27] <nuclearbob> ogra_: that'a also the day I started seeing the problem
[15:28] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/partman-base/162ubuntu1
[15:29] <ogra_> ... "issue a warning that partitioning may be difficult" ...
[15:29] <ogra_> you might need to preseed that
[15:30] <gema> nuclearbob: may that be it?
[15:30] <ogra_> even if it isnt, it would stall your installation waiting for confirmation
[15:31] <nuclearbob> ogra_ would a failure to preseed that cause the machine to become unresponsive during the install?
[15:31] <ogra_> no, i wouldnt think so
[15:31] <ogra_> for unresponsiveness i would rather take a look at the kernel or nfs support
[15:32] <nuclearbob> ogra_ would it help to have access to the machine?
[15:32] <ogra_> no, but do you have any more data loke a log or so you could attach tp the bug ?
[15:32] <ogra_> *to
[15:32] <ogra_> *like
[15:32] <ogra_> sigh !
[15:32]  * ogra_ needs a typing course
[15:32] <nuclearbob> ogra_ sure, I can reach the machine over ssh, so I can grab whatever logs you think would be useful
[15:33] <ogra_> syslog and everything in /var/log/installer and /var/log/ubiquity
[15:36] <cjwatson> partman-base uploads only affect anything after a ubiquity upload that incorporates them
[15:36] <cjwatson> if there wasn't a ubiquity upload, it's impossible for the partman-base upload to be responsible for this
[15:36] <ogra_> oh, indeed
[15:37] <ogra_> and i suspect it wont take nfs mounts into account for this function anyway
[15:37] <xnox> and currently ubiquity is 'out-of-date', I wanted to upload ubiquity this week there are a few fixes in it already and they get rereported.
[15:38] <ogra_> there was a kernel upload on the 15th ...
[15:39] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/linux/3.7.0-7.15
[15:39] <ogra_> though if there was an issue with that it would likely have hit you on the 16th already
[15:47] <ogra_> so the log at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/127826144/UbiquityDebug.txt seems to indicate that ubiquity got through to the point where it actually issues a reboot
[15:47] <ogra_> and the syslog from the bug shows some hung task messages from Xorg
[15:48] <ogra_> i strongly doubt it is installer related at all
[15:48] <ogra_> rather kernel or network stack (rootfs messed up etc) or even Xorg itself
[16:02] <ogra_> nuclearbob, bug 1097197 smells related
[16:02] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1097197 in linux (Ubuntu) "Raring daily failed to boot on MSI MS-7676/Z68MA-ED55 / Intel i915 and RC6 enabled" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1097197
[16:02] <ogra_> (as jibel apparently said above)
[16:03] <nuclearbob> ogra_ I've installed in a newer images than that, buit it could still be related
[16:03] <nuclearbob> ogra_ up to about 2012 12 20, things seem pretty okay for the main system I'm using
[16:04] <ogra_> yeah, admittedly it is an older issue
[16:05] <nuclearbob> ogra_ I'm going to try the boot option jibel mentioned for that
[16:05] <ogra_> ++


[01:46] <mtgeekman> Hello
[01:47] <mtgeekman> Just wondering if some one can tell me how to change the default sound volume when I turn on my mythbuntu box.  its always muted and turned down at startup.
[03:57] <rhpot1991> mtgeekman: its in the settings
[03:57] <rhpot1991> general, 3rd page or so
[03:57] <rhpot1991> or maybe in playback profiles, check there too :)
[11:42] <tim183> i'm having some trouble with my screen setup
[11:46] <tim183> i cannot get my mthbuntu screen to full size on my 23" samsug monitor
[12:40] <tim183> ok, fixed it
[18:20] <NOT_guru> hello everbody,  I have a fairly fresh build of mythbuntu 9.04 and tried doing the conversion to using tmdb.pl ( http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Tmdb.pl )
[18:21] <NOT_guru> after completeing the process ( which reported as finishing without errors ) I get a and error when I go into manage my media
[18:21] <NOT_guru> its still trying to use the imdb.pl file
[18:22] <NOT_guru> any suggestions?
[18:22] <NOT_guru> FYI I did this the non svn method
[18:35] <NOT_guru> !help
[18:35] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[19:24] <orificium_> I believe you just need to download tmdb.pl, remove imdb.pl and create a symbolic link to tmdb.pl
[19:26] <rhpot1991> there is a spot somewhere in setup for what file to point at, thats prob still ponting at imdb.pl
[19:46] <NOT_guru> yes
[19:46] <NOT_guru> sorry for the delay  I had to step away
[19:46] <NOT_guru> I will try making a symnlink from imdb.pl tp tmdb.pl
[19:48] <NOT_guru> actually looking at the folder
[19:48] <NOT_guru> imdb.pl -> tmdb.pl already exist
[19:50] <NOT_guru> and now it seems to be working
[19:50] <NOT_guru> I dunno
[19:50] <NOT_guru> thanks  =) LOl
[19:56] <orificium_> !status
[19:56] <Zinn> I am alive.
[19:56] <orificium_> Nice
[19:56] <orificium_> !about
[19:56] <NOT_guru> how about another question
[19:56] <Zinn> I am an IRC bot written in perl, but my code is not yet released.  I am named after Howard Zinn, you can learn more about him here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Zinn
[19:56] <NOT_guru> on the manage media screen
[19:57] <NOT_guru> anyway to get rid of the "enter IMDB#" overlay?
[19:57] <orificium_> modify the xml maybe?
[19:57] <NOT_guru> heh   'the'  I would respond with 'which'  =)
[19:58] <NOT_guru> as I have no xml's in http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&um=1&sa=1&q=movie+icon&biw=1280&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g3&start=0
[19:58] <NOT_guru> 'damnit
[19:58] <NOT_guru> sorry
[19:59] <NOT_guru> my paste cahce has been all messed up
[19:59] <NOT_guru> but I don't have any xml's in the mythvideo/scripts folder
[19:59] <orificium_> In /usr/share/mythtv/themes
[20:00] <orificium_> which theme are you using?
[20:00]  * NOT_guru goes a hunting
[20:00] <NOT_guru> the stock mythbuntu
[20:00] <rhpot1991> NOT_guru: thats a bug, thought I thought a fix was done
[20:01] <NOT_guru> FYI: this is a frsh install / download of 9.04 MAD64
[20:01] <NOT_guru> grr
[20:01] <NOT_guru> AMD64
[20:02] <NOT_guru> oops  also  I am using the Mythbuntu-8.04-wide
[20:03] <NOT_guru> video-ui.xml?
[20:03] <NOT_guru> I am guessing
[20:03] <NOT_guru> vi video-ui.xml
[20:04] <NOT_guru> oops   wrong window
[20:04] <NOT_guru> yeeks...
[20:04] <NOT_guru> any hints as to where in this file?
[20:05] <orificium_> in video-ui.xml there is a textarea for IMDB Num.:
[20:05] <orificium_> is that waht you're talking about?
[20:05] <NOT_guru> if thats the overlay that never goes away
[20:05] <orificium_> I might not be familiar with waht you mean.
[20:05] <orificium_> I thought maybe you just wanted to change it ot TMDB
[20:06] <NOT_guru> no sir
[20:06] <NOT_guru> in my system
[20:06] <NOT_guru> when I goto settings media
[20:06] <NOT_guru> err  let me make sure my labels are correct
[20:06] <NOT_guru> settings -> video manager
[20:06] <NOT_guru> as soon as I enter there
[20:07] <NOT_guru> there is a box that says 'enter IMDB#
[20:07] <NOT_guru> never goes away
[20:07] <orificium_> Oh hm, rhpot1991 was saying that's a bug.
[20:07] <orificium_> May not be fixable by modifyin the xml
[20:07] <orificium_> I guess you could try killing the container
[20:08] <rhpot1991> its an issue with the themes I believe
[20:08] <NOT_guru> its the container
[20:08] <NOT_guru> yes
[20:08] <orificium_> there is a container in video-ui.xml
[20:08] <orificium_> called enterimdb
[20:08] <NOT_guru> the container is enterimdb
[20:08] <orificium_> How do you comment out in xml?
[20:08] <orificium_> Is it <!--?
[20:08] <NOT_guru> thats answer is above my pay scale
[20:08] <NOT_guru> IE I dunno  =)
[20:09] <NOT_guru> I guess I could just make a backup copy and delete that container
[20:09] <orificium_> Well you could just cut it out and save it elsewhere in case it breaks things :)
[20:09] <NOT_guru> but that will also break where I get to enter imdb numbers
[20:09] <NOT_guru> no worries  I will make a backup and test cutting out that container
[20:10] <NOT_guru> as soon as I update all my listings first
[20:11] <rhpot1991> it works still with that bug there, it just floats in the way
[20:11] <rhpot1991> more of a neusance than anything else
[20:11] <NOT_guru> correct
[20:11] <NOT_guru> correct
[20:11] <NOT_guru> and no one else will see the screen so its no real biggie
[20:11] <NOT_guru> just thought I would ask while I was in there
[20:11] <NOT_guru> =)
[20:13] <NOT_guru> everything has been going really smoothly with this build
[20:13] <NOT_guru> I am quite pleased
[20:14] <NOT_guru> so pleased I just ordered up my HDHomerun and a 1.5TB drive
[20:14] <NOT_guru> =)
[20:14] <NOT_guru> one of the newer 1.5 TB drives with fixed firmware
[20:14] <NOT_guru> going to move all my DVD's to it
[20:55] <NOT_guru> I see that mythphone will not be an official plugin for the .022 release...  will there be a new sip client?
[21:09] <orificium_> I'd love to see more automation functionality built into MythUI for .22
[21:09] <orificium_> There's LinuxMCE, but honestly, I think its very buggy and a big clusterfuck.
[21:10] <orificium_> And one of their lead developers is very hostile. :)
[21:11] <superm1> hostile to whom?
[21:11] <NOT_guru> I almost looked at linuxmce
[21:11] <NOT_guru> glad I chose mythbuntu
[21:11] <NOT_guru> no hostility
[21:15] <orificium_> This nameless individual likes to call people idiots when they ask questions :)
[21:16] <superm1> what an idiot ;)
[21:18] <orificium_> superm1: Are you familiar with the Graphite theme?
[21:18] <superm1> heard of it, not actually used it
[21:19] <orificium_> How about the new theming capabilities?
[21:21] <superm1> i've played with Terra a bit
[21:21] <superm1> it's much nicer
[21:23] <orificium_> On the imagetype widget, using the filename attribute, you can specify a directory which is supposed to display a "random" image from within that directory.
[21:23] <orificium_> I was wondering if there was a way to rotate them at a regular interval.
[21:28] <orificium_> Hm, actually, does anyone know how to rename a group of files (with various names) to something like image(1 - # of total files).extension in the console?
[21:39] <orificium_> Anyone using the pcHDTV-5500 card?
[21:47] <NOT_guru> I thought I saw a bulk rename utility somewhere in mythbuntu
[21:47] <NOT_guru> dunno if it will do what your looking for though
[22:04] <NOT_guru> I placed a folder.jpg in my 'Movies' folder in my media directory.  is there a way to hide the jpg from the listing?
[22:46] <orificium_> When you hit "I" in MythVideo, do you have an option to browse files?
[22:46] <orificium_> I know in the weekly build I installed, you can hide anything that isn't in the database
[22:52] <NOT_guru> checking
[22:52] <NOT_guru> no worky for me  =)
[22:52] <NOT_guru> no worries  I will look it over when I get home
[22:58] <NOT_guru> thaniks again peoples
[22:58] <NOT_guru> good evening


[01:42] <VK7HSE> Has anyone have the jaunty UNR installed if so are you having issues with the touch pad ??? (model Eee PC 701SD)
[02:44] <Eee_PC_701SD> sorry for re asking this question... but I have just installed jaunty UNR on my Eee PC 701SD only to discover that the touch-pad is very slow to respond! even with acceleration and sensitivity set to maximum it is still very sluggish... has anyone else noticed this ???
[03:26] <McLovin> hello all
[03:27] <McLovin> any word on where there is gong to be a beta out for the mini.iso?
[06:01] <tuxib> hi all, which ISO is in most need of testing at the moment?
[06:02] <tuxib> I'm currently downloading Xubuntu
[06:02] <tuxib> but I notice the status has gone to 5/5 over the last day or so
[06:03] <slangasek> jaunty beta is released; we're not doing ISO testing per se at this point
[06:03] <tuxib> doh, should have checked for that first
[06:03] <tuxib> ok d/l cancelled
[06:04] <tuxib> so what needs more testing now?
[06:05] <slangasek> well, there's http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta#Testing wanted
[06:10] <tuxib> ok thanks, started d/l that
[06:11] <tuxib> take care all. bye
[07:04] <ara> Morning!
[07:42] <ara> did I miss the announcement? is the beta out?
[07:42] <slangasek> it is out
[07:43] <slangasek> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2009-March/000119.html
[07:45] <ara> slangasek: cool, thanks :)
[08:40] <ara> morning davmor2, jcollado
[08:40] <davmor2> Good Morning ara
[08:40] <jcollado> Buenos días ara & davmor2
[08:41] <davmor2> Good day to you too jcollado
[09:58] <Aleksey_S> hi all
[09:58] <Aleksey_S> i am using ubuntu jaunty, and after latest update orca screenreader stoped working
[10:02] <Aleksey_S> what i can to do?
[10:02] <ara> Aleksey_S: have you rebooted after latest update?
[10:03] <Aleksey_S> yes
[10:03] <ara> Aleksey_S: the rest of the sound system works correctly?
[10:03] <Aleksey_S> for now i can only work with yasr console screen reader
[10:04] <Aleksey_S> yes
[10:04] <Aleksey_S> i tried start orca from console (just to see what will happen)
[10:04] <Aleksey_S> and python traceback appears
[10:05] <ara> Aleksey_S: what is the traceback?
[10:05] <Aleksey_S> i cann't copy it to you, because i am now from windows - but here was about orbit.so library
[10:05] <ara> Aleksey_S: when did you update your installation?
[10:05] <z1d4n3> Hi, is this the right place to ask for help with the 9.04 beta?
[10:05] <Aleksey_S> what do you mean?
[10:06] <Aleksey_S> i always upgrading with aptitude safe-upgrade
[10:06] <ara> Aleksey_S: ah, you upgraded from intrepid?
[10:06] <Aleksey_S> i did it last time may be half hour ago
[10:06] <Aleksey_S> no
[10:07] <Aleksey_S> i installed clean jaunty 9.04 alpha6 and updating every day
[10:07] <z1d4n3> Where should I go?
[10:07] <ara> Aleksey_S: can you file a bug with "ubuntu-bug gnome-orca"
[10:08] <Aleksey_S> how i can do that? i haven't access to gui now
[10:09] <ara> Aleksey_S: through the console "apport-cli -f -p gnome-orca"
[10:09] <ara> z1d4n3: #ubuntu+1 is the place
[10:09] <Aleksey_S> also, i have russian localization installed, and yasr screen reader cann't use espeak russian voice - so even in console output from most commands isn't accessible - it is in russian
[10:10] <Aleksey_S> can you describe what will happen after? becouse i guess i willn't be able to read output of that command
[10:11] <Aleksey_S> will it ask me something?
[10:12] <ara> Aleksey_S: I am afraid it will
[10:13] <Aleksey_S> do you remember what exactly?
[10:14] <ara> first, it will ask you to send the report, you have to answer "S" that's easy, but then, it will ask you to log in to launchpad (in a console based browser)
[10:14] <ara> Aleksey_S: let me try one thing
[10:14] <Aleksey_S> pretty cool
[10:15] <ara> Aleksey_S: let's try one thing. Wait a couple of minutes
[10:15] <ara> Aleksey_S: I'll get back to you
[10:15] <Aleksey_S> may be i can save output on the usb stick and then access it from windows to send it to you
[10:16] <ara> Aleksey_S: no, no. Just one sec.
[10:16] <Aleksey_S> oh ok, i will wait
[10:16] <ara> Aleksey_S: can you access your jaunty installation anyway, can you?
[10:17] <ara> Aleksey_S: at least through the command line
[10:17] <Aleksey_S> i can boot it, press alt+ctrl+f1
[10:17] <Aleksey_S> login into console and start yasr
[10:18] <ara> Aleksey_S: ok. Which is your launchpad id?
[10:18] <Aleksey_S> but most of the command have output in russian - yasr can't read that
[10:18] <ara> Aleksey_S: no problem, it would be easy
[10:18] <Aleksey_S> i don't know. how i can get that?
[10:18] <Aleksey_S> i have account on launchpad
[10:18] <ara> Aleksey_S: that's what I mean, your launchpad account name
[10:19] <Aleksey_S><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:21] <ara> Aleksey_S: OK. Done. Now, through the command line type "apport-collect 349480". That will add the necessary information to the bug.
[10:21] <Aleksey_S> will it ask something?
[10:22] <ara> Aleksey_S: it won't
[10:22] <Aleksey_S> ok, i will reboot and try. after i will be back
[10:22] <ara> Aleksey_S: OK
[10:44] <Aleksey_S> done
[10:44] <Aleksey_S> it will be not so easy you describet
[10:44] <Aleksey_S> it started w3m browser and asked me to login
[10:45] <Aleksey_S> after it asked what access i want give for the apport-collect
[10:45] <VK7HSE> Hi... I have installed a fresh copy of jaunty unr on my Eee PC 701sd I have noticed that the touchpad is very sluggish and seems to jump around the screen a little I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed similar ???
[10:45] <Aleksey_S> i am not sure i clicked correct links, i was very surprised that yasr gave me access to w3m
[10:46] <Aleksey_S> but after all adventures, it said to me that new attachment was created and uploaded, so see bug 349480
[10:46] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 349480 in gnome-orca "Orca stopped working with the latest updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349480
[10:51] <davmor2> Hi heno beta's out then :)
[10:52] <davmor2> is any one having issue with audio again?
[10:52] <Aleksey_S> i haven't
[10:52] <ara> davmor2: I still have the crackling noise some times
[10:52] <ara> Aleksey_S: yes, the data is there
[10:52] <heno> Hi davmor2
[10:53] <Aleksey_S> is it usefull?
[10:53] <davmor2> ara: I got no gnome-volume-applet this morning
[10:53] <ara> davmor2: I have
[10:53]  * davmor2 hits box with hammer
[11:03] <Aleksey_S> ara: is there something i can help to resolve this bug as fast as possible? becouse for now i can't work with my linux at all.
[11:05] <ara> Aleksey_S: well, I am not expert in debugging orca issues. Jaunty is in development and, therefore, it is not meant to be used as a main system
[11:05] <ara> Aleksey_S: bugs are expected...
[11:05] <Aleksey_S> yes, i know
[11:05] <thekorn> Aleksey_S, I think there is a good chance you are affected by bug 349467
[11:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 349467 in python2.6 "update-manager fails to install todays updates due to "undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_DecodeUTF8"" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349467
[11:06] <thekorn> you have python2.6 2.6.1-1ubuntu5 installed, which  is known to be broken
[11:06] <Aleksey_S> yes
[11:06] <Aleksey_S> so i can just install latest updates?
[11:06] <thekorn> so maybe this is not a bug in ocra itself
[11:07] <Aleksey_S> "fix released" mean that fix is allready in repo, right?
[11:08] <thekorn> Aleksey_S, wait a bit, the fix has been uploaded, but maybe not published on your archive mirror
[11:08] <Aleksey_S> how many i need?
[11:08] <Aleksey_S> i am using ua mirror
[11:09] <thekorn> Aleksey_S, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.6/2.6.1-1ubuntu5.1 shows that the fix ist still building
[11:10] <Aleksey_S> *goes to try updates
[11:10] <Aleksey_S> ah ok
[11:11] <thekorn> so you have to wait at least until the package has been published for your architecture
[11:11] <Aleksey_S> thanks a lot
[11:13] <Aleksey_S> and if update will fix this, what i mean to do to notify that this is result of 349467 bug?
[11:17] <thekorn> Aleksey_S, leave a comment at your bug, and either mark your bug as a duplicate of the other one or mark your bug as invalid
[11:23] <loffe> Hello folks! I'm thinking of doing the suspend testing on my laptop. Now I'm wondering if I need to make a full install, or can I run it from within a LiveUSB?
[12:03] <abelsoares> hi all
[12:04] <davmor2> Hello
[12:04] <abelsoares> so, i am interested in became an ubuntu tester
[12:04] <abelsoares> what do i have to do?
[12:05] <davmor2> abelsoares: What are you interested in testing?
[12:08] <abelsoares> \msg davmor2 so maibe stuff like multimedia apps, etc
[12:11] <davmor2> abelsoares: you can go here to learn some more https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing  If your interest is in testing the cd's so they can be released then go here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ and sign up.  Also every Monday we are starting to run testing days which is probably the easiest way to start
[12:12] <abelsoares> \msg davmor2 ok, i certainly will read that and sign up
[12:40] <davmor2> See you all latter
[13:07] <Shane_Fagan> Hi I was trying to test the suspend and resume that the kernel team asked for in the mailing list and it failed. I couldnt shutdown the computer so I turned it off manually. When I booted back up apport picked up on the crash but when I tried to upload the crash report nothing happened. Update manager, software sources and deskbar applet is also not working.
[13:10] <Shane_Fagan> Any ideas on whats wrong?
[13:12] <ara> Shane_Fagan: apt-cache policy python
[13:12] <ara> Shane_Fagan: what do you get
[13:13] <Shane_Fagan> python:
[13:13] <Shane_Fagan>   Installed: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
[13:13] <Shane_Fagan>   Candidate: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
[13:13] <Shane_Fagan>   Version table:
[13:13] <Shane_Fagan>  *** 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 0
[13:13] <Shane_Fagan>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages
[13:13] <Shane_Fagan>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[13:16] <ara> mmm, I thought it might be because 2.6.1-0ubuntu5 was broken
[13:18] <Shane_Fagan> I didnt get any errors updating and I only started to get problems after trying the suspend tests
[13:18] <Shane_Fagan> If that helps
[13:18] <ara> Shane_Fagan: yes, I don't think it is related to suspend/resume
[13:19] <ara> Shane_Fagan: you might have started to have problems because you actually rebooted
[13:19] <Shane_Fagan> I understand
[13:24] <Shane_Fagan> ara: after looking into whats not working. It is the programs that use python that dont work all the rest seem to work fine.
[13:24] <ara> mvo_: ^
[13:33] <Shane_Fagan> mvo_: Any ideas?
[13:40] <mvo_> Shane_Fagan: broken python? that is a known issue, the fix for python2.6 just got published
[13:41] <Shane_Fagan> Well apt-cache policy python came back normal so the package isnt broken
[13:42] <mvo_> Shane_Fagan: could you please check what version of python2.6 you have?
[13:42] <mvo_> Shane_Fagan: and check if you can update that to -1ubuntu5.1 ?
[13:44] <Shane_Fagan> candidate is -1ubuntu5.1 ill see if it fixes the problem
[13:47] <Shane_Fagan> mvo_: Fixed thanks for the help
[14:00] <mvo_> cheers
[14:00] <xivulon> Hi all, i would appreciate some heavy testing on wubi since it is a complete rewrite (if you still have a windows partition/vm somewhere, that's a good reason to use it)
[14:01] <xivulon> davmor2, has been very helpful so far, but the more the merrier
[14:02] <xivulon> Please see also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1107950
[14:11] <Shane_Fagan> ogasawara: my computer failed the suspend resume test do I need to add it to the wiki?
[14:13] <Shane_Fagan> ogasawara: Im asking because it failed to log the testing but apport caught it.
[14:35] <ogasawara> Shane_Fagan: yes, if you could add it to the wiki that would be great.  also there's a column in the wiki for you to reference the bug# which would be great.
[14:35] <Shane_Fagan> ogasawara: Thanks
[14:59] <marctww> Anyone here have experience with what looks like a redraw-bug with nvidia-177.82 driver in Ubuntu 8.10?
[15:08] <Shane_Fagan> marctww: This channel is for testing ubuntu for support of previous releases ask you question in #ubuntu
[15:09] <marctww> thanks
[15:14] <jtisme> when will we start making the dailys again?
[15:41] <jtisme> heno r you on
[15:42] <heno> jtisme: I am; we'll probably get new dailies tomorrow morning
[15:43] <jtisme> ok, i was looking at the regression tracking pages and although that is not exactly what i had in mind it fits in the structure i am thinking about i will join the testing mtg next monday and bring up my ideas
[19:46] <jardi> hi all
[19:47] <jardi> I'm trying to respond to the call for suspend/hibernate testing, but I have some questions.
[19:49] <jardi> the test says "machine will suspend for 20 seconds", does it means that the machine will resume itself after 20 sec ? or do I need to do something to wake it up ?
[19:50] <jardi> And by the way, (I never used the suspend/resume thing) how do I resume from a suspend the nice way ?
[21:30] <pace_t_zulu> anyone know about 'open-vm-toolbox' package on jaunty?
[21:46] <imme-emosol> hello there.
[21:46] <imme-emosol> My Ubuntu won't start anymore.
[21:47] <imme-emosol> After an update today I am thrown to busybox.
[21:47] <imme-emosol> It says it cannot find my disk.
[21:47] <imme-emosol> And it suggests me to look at modules.
[21:48] <imme-emosol> I have already concluded that ubuntu-latest is not for me , but I thought to sit it out until the end...
[21:48] <imme-emosol> That is , until jaunty is released.
[21:49] <imme-emosol> But this is quite problematic , and I don't really know how to solve it.
[21:49] <imme-emosol> Is it a known problem?
[22:10] <imme-emosol> so , wrong chan. ... :)