[00:00] <markolo25_> cool
[00:00] <markolo25_> thank you i got it started
[00:00] <rena_> markolo25_, have you tried using & after the command? Like tar xf fafa.tar.gz &
[00:00] <markolo25_> yea
[00:00] <markolo25_> it stops running after i close putty
[00:01] <markolo25_> there's actually 2 files i want to extract
[00:01] <markolo25_> so inside of the screen i did &&
[00:01] <markolo25_> then i ctrl a ctrl d
[00:01] <markolo25_> should be good to close putty now right
[00:01] <SchrodingersScat> yeah, can check with a screen -ls
[00:02] <SchrodingersScat> and there should be a detached session
[00:02] <markolo25_> hahhha
[00:02] <markolo25_> i did screen ls
[00:02] <markolo25_> yea there's a detached session
[00:02] <markolo25_> thanks
[00:02] <SchrodingersScat> markolo25_: great
[00:03] <zerowaitstate> markolo25_: I want ice cream
[00:03] <markolo25_> lol
[00:03] <SchrodingersScat> markolo25_: make sure you bring enough for the entire class
[00:04] <CanadaBTC> All of my files on an old truecrypt USB turned into files with gibberish names and when opened say "_____ does not exist". i have been told i should use fsck to possibly restore it, but am having issues using fsck
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> CanadaBTC, #truecrypt
[00:05] <CanadaBTC> it says "attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /media/truecrypt10, could this be a zero lenght partition?
[00:06] <CanadaBTC> ok i will try there thanks
[00:06] <CanadaBTC> does anybody here have any ideas?
[00:06] <tinoco> a
[00:07] <zerowaitstate> CanadaBTC: recovering data from encrypted partitions is an unusual use case, sorry. That requires very specialized knowledge
[00:07] <CanadaBTC> ok
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> !info truecrypt
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> CanadaBTC, 3rd party technically not supported here
[00:08] <SchrodingersScat> wilee-nilee: truecrypt is dead, only being used to decrypt now
[00:08] <zerowaitstate> SchrodingersScat: really? what is the thing now?
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> SchrodingersScat, Not actually true, but whatever.
[00:09] <SchrodingersScat> zerowaitstate: http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/ wilee-nilee: well, it's at least what the page says, in a way
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> SchrodingersScat, Do the research, is all I will say.
[00:10] <SchrodingersScat> wilee-nilee: I didn't use it before this, not starting now.
[00:10] <zerowaitstate> I actually liked truecrypt
[00:10] <zerowaitstate> IMO bitlocker is actually worse
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> SchrodingersScat, You are under the impression I have any interest in anything you say, I do if it is even close to accurate, rather than a rhetoric not from an informed position. ;)
[00:11] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | wilee-nilee
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> lol,
[00:12] <sydney> :D
[00:12] <SchrodingersScat> wilee-nilee: I don't see anything in that last comment but an insult, you're free to do so, but I don't think that's ubuntu support. 'lol'
[00:16] <sydney> Ok.
[00:16] <sydney> joey_  Are you getting anywhere?
[00:21] <mohamed> hi :)
[00:22] <sydney> Hi.
[00:29] <basheba> uninstalled chromium and installed google-chrome SOLVED
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> basheba, Yay a real sentence.
[00:30] <sydney> Great!!
[00:30] <sydney> What does my /quit message say?
[00:31] <MrRio> Looking for some feature feedback for a command-line activity monitor – http://parall.ax/vtop
[00:32] <MrRio> Don't suppose anyone would be interested – need to add some keyboard shortcuts to it :)
[00:33] <sydney> Can someone please tell me?
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> MrRio, vtop is 3rd party, and this is a poll, neither supported here. ;)
[00:33] <MrRio> heh, ok sure
[00:34] <kostkon> sydney, something about donkeys
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> MrRio, Does not mean no one will help, but just be aware.
[00:34] <sydney> kostkon: Sure :P
[00:36] <sydney> wilee-nilee: Please?
[00:36] <sydney> :D
[00:37] <sydney> Never mind,i will figure it out. :D
[00:38] <sydney> Bye!!
[00:43] <KT5WYX> hi all.
[00:44] <KT5WYX> I'm looking for a little help. I have qnap storage device with nfs shares. I've managed to mount the shares, and can look inside them, but if I create a directory from the client the server can't open it or alter it's permissions, and directories created on the server are inaccessible to the client. Both machines have like user accounts, how can I map the two?
[00:53] <pgnome> I constantly have video driver problems with ubuntu
[00:53] <pgnome> I wonder if it's a bug
[00:53] <pgnome> nvidia driver installed is newer than what is shown in nvidia xserver settings
[00:53] <pgnome> and when I update in terminal - takes forever.. sudo apt-get update and then it gets hung, quite often before finishing
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> pgnome, This a proprietary driver? If so what is the exact problems you have?
[00:56] <pgnome> which driver should be listed in nvidia server settings?
[00:56] <pgnome> NVIDIA Driver Version: ->?
[00:58] <jitesh> Hello all. I have a problem with resume on my Lenovo Y10p running Ubuntu 13.10. The screen is black ALWAYS after ubuntu tries to resume from sleep. ctrl+alt+f2 has not worked. increasing the brightness does not work either. I have searched the depths on the internet and not found anything, thats why I come here :)
[00:58] <jitesh> is this the right channel?
[00:58] <pgnome> it displays an older driver version....
[00:59] <jitesh> If someone wants to have a look, the crash log and output of my lspci is here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7615687/
[00:59] <Asterisks> jitesh: yeah, this is the right channel
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> pgnome, proprietary can have two sources, straight from nvidia and at times part of the additional drivers offered. Not really and area I'm best in, but as part of the inquiry you want to state the graphic hardware and what you have installed, and the actual problems you have had.
[01:00] <jitesh> Asterisks, thanks! the log tells me that the crash is because of the integrated graphics card? I tried to disable it from the BIOS, but the BIOS won't let me disable it. I can only disable the external Nvidia graphics card.
[01:01] <jitesh> I tried the generic (non ubuntu) stable 3..14.6 and the problem persists.
[01:01] <jitesh> Just trying to find a work-around!
[01:01] <Asterisks> jitesh: I'm assuming the y10p is a desktop?  I don't know lenovo model numbers off the top of my head
[01:01] <jitesh> Asterisks, aah no its a laptop.
[01:03] <Asterisks> jitesh: you have an external graphics card on a laptop?
[01:04] <zymaster> Hey so I'm having a problem with grub. I have a triple boot system with windows mac and ubuntu using chameleon to boot each one. Chameleon is working fine but I have grub installed on the Ubuntu partition and when I boot from chameleon I want to skip the menu. So I tried editing /etc/default/grub and setting timeouts to 0 the doing sudo update-grub but that didn't work so I tried injecting
[01:04] <jitesh> Asterisks, yep. Its an nvidia GT 755M
[01:04] <zymaster> some code manually into the grub.cfg but that didn't help either any ideas?
[01:04] <Asterisks> jitesh: define "external", you actually have it seperate from the laptop?
[01:06] <jitesh> Asterisks, by external I only mean that its not an intel integrated graphics card. Its not physically external ofcourse :)
[01:07] <Asterisks> jitesh: then it's not external, get your facts straight.  That would be the only card in your laptop, so theres nothing to disable.
[01:07] <Asterisks> jitesh: is there anything visable on the screen after the resume (is it just REALLY dark, or is it BLACK/off)
[01:08] <jitesh> Asterisks, its not dark, its off.
[01:08] <jitesh> Asterisks, also what is this in my lspci, if nvidia is the only card  I have -> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[01:08] <Asterisks> jitesh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1978290 have you tried this?
[01:10] <Asterisks> jitesh: that means your CPU has built in graphics if you don't have any other.  it's shut off if you have other graphics (which you do) automatically.
[01:11] <Asterisks> I'll be back in 10 minutes, try that ubuntu forums link until then.
[01:13] <jitesh> Asterisks, ok. trying it now. If am disconnected, its because I had to restart my laptop because I was unable to resume it. Will be back. thanks!
[01:14] <Donnylad> could i get some help plz when i boot up ubuntu and get to log in screen i get input out of range on my screen but once i am loged in to goes away is there any solutions for it ?
[01:16] <andlabs> Hi. Using kvm to run ubuntu gnome on kubuntu
[01:16] <voidwalkr> when i try to run ubuntu from a usb stick, it doesn't work very welll... will i have the same problems when i install it as a second partition on my local hdd or is it just a usb thing?
[01:16] <pgnome> well, ubuntu completely sucks when it comes to video drivers
[01:16] <andlabs> GNOME Terminal is showing squished window contents with colored text due to the squishing
[01:16] <andlabs> what packages do I need to install to fix this?
[01:17] <Sagesparten007> Hi, I am looking to get some help with an issue with GDM. GDM doesn't start on boot. I have temp fixed it by putting /usr/sbin/gdm in /etc/rc.local but this is messy
[01:18] <Donnylad> my ubuntu looks awesome i added the mac os x theme
[01:19] <jitesh> Asterisks, tried the link. It indeed does not die with a black screen like before. However, it has an unpleasant side-effect that it inhibits sleep. When I try to sleep, the screen goes black for a second and then comes back up with a passowrd prompt. Laptop never really goes to sleep.
 that's probably related to USB Read/Write speed. If you run it from some HDD with firewire or PATA/SATA (external or directly in MB) connection you should have no problems.
[01:20] <andlabs> so am I stuck with this incorrect terminal? it's not helpful that most other programs in the guest don't seem to do this
[01:21] <cfhowlett> voidwalkr "doesn't work very well" describes ... nothing.  however, installing to a HDD means ubuntu doesn't have to run from RAM.  if you have small ram (less than 4 gb), you will indeed perceive ubuntu as slowish
[01:23] <Asterisks> Donnylad: how detailed is it?
[01:24] <pgnome> http://pastebin.com/Jj9ZrBdE
[01:26] <ki7rw> i guess i'll ask again - i can ping my printer and use the hplip utility to connect and print a test page but i can't print a document over my internal net from any of my PC's. tried reinstalling the driver but still nothing. any ideas?
[01:26] <Donnylad> you would not know its ubuntu its has all the logos icons and wallpapers you get on a mac os x
[01:27] <Amigadude> I'm having performance issues (computer related before the innuendos) running on a netbook but I'm used to running on an older netbook... new one is 1Ghz Dual core A4-1200 old one was 1.6Ghz single core N270 atom... is there tweaks to get it running quicker on the newer CPU
[01:27] <Asterisks> Donnylad: interesting.  bet it doesn't have the finder views mac does
[01:28] <ki7rw> no queues configured?
[01:28] <Donnylad> dont know how it looks on mac
[01:29] <pgnome> this is a crappy place to expect any help
[01:29] <StaticPenumbra> What seems to be the problem?
[01:30] <pgnome> I installed nvidia driver with ppa
[01:30] <Asterisks> Donnylad: this view: http://i.imgur.com/161W710.png
[01:30] <Donnylad> Asterisks i PM ed you the link i used to follow to insatll it all if you wana check it out
[01:31] <pgnome> I used this site:
[01:31] <pgnome> http://www.binarytides.com/install-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-14-04/
[01:31] <Donnylad> nope but its pritty close to looking the same
[01:32] <jitesh> Asterisks, hey I am back. Was trying the other script from the link you gave. That most definitely did not work :)
[01:32] <Asterisks> jitesh: it technically DID work, it stopped you from suspending
[01:33] <voidwalkr> i see... yes, it is crashing a lot when i am running it from usb, lots of problems, and screen stalls... i've allocated extra space on the usb partition for saving files, the files do save nicely and the information is preserved but upgrades just destroy the entire usb installation that you can't boot from the stick anymore, and any kind of installation of new programs becomes a nightmare
[01:33] <ghosTM55> Hi all
[01:33] <Asterisks> jitesh: anyway, let me see here
[01:34] <voidwalkr> i guess i just have to install it on the internal sata hdd and see how it works from there
[01:34] <voidwalkr> anybody ever tried pearOS?
[01:35] <pgnome> you might as well try it...you won't get any help here
[01:35] <Asterisks> jitesh: what ubuntu version are you using?  14.04?
[01:35] <voidwalkr> i was just wondering if other have had the same experience running ubuntu from a usb stick
[01:36] <jitesh> Asterisks, 13.10 !
[01:36] <Corvette> How can I make all apps display with dark GUI in Gnome? I've followed the directions available here http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/63389/how-can-i-use-adwaita-dark-for-all-applications-gnome-3-4 but they do not work
[01:37] <Asterisks> jitesh: got an external mouse/keyboard?
[01:38] <randymandala> test
[01:38] <jitesh> Asterisks, nope
[01:38] <Asterisks> pgnome: why is this a crappy place to expect help?
[01:39] <Asterisks> voidwalkr: yeah, your problem sounds like limited resources.  Probably a harddrive install would solve them assuming you don't have a super old computer
[01:39] <Asterisks> jitesh: still looking at stuff for you, I havn't forgotten you
[01:39] <jitesh> Asterisks, trying suggestions from here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2185454 .. brb
[01:39] <pgnome> ubuntu with nvidia sucks
[01:39] <jitesh> Asterisks, hehe thanks!
[01:40] <Donnylad> radeon is just as bad lol
[01:41] <Asterisks> Donnylad: I've had success with AMD/Radeon and Nvidia, I fail to see why you dislike one or the other.
[01:43] <Amigadude> the system seems to be using a generic drivers (manufacturer specific but not model) is it worth looking into more specific drivers for better performance?
[01:43] <lacrymology> I've got an nvidia optimus, and my computer with 13.10 is running very hot. I used bumblebee until yesterday, but the latest kernel upgrade broke it, so I went back to nvidia-319 only. I read there's switching support for 14.04 but I can't make the switch right now, with this internet. I might do that next weekend
[01:44] <lacrymology> so, what can I do to make my computer run cooler?
[01:44] <lacrymology> I don't care about the graphics so much short term
[01:44] <lacrymology> yesterday I had purged nvida-* as well, and it was running hotter even
[01:44] <Asterisks> Amigadude: what kind of "performance problems" exactly. /serious   Having problems with a floppy? /joke
[01:45] <Asterisks> lacrymology: you're sure it's your graphics that are causing the heatup?
[01:45] <Donnylad> i got a radeon hd 6670 and i get the pixels all over my screen when installing othere linux destro's linux mint was the worse when i went into edit on the grub and added radeon.modeset=0 then ctrl+x to save it never booted into mint it opened the terminal and had to install with commands
[01:46] <lacrymology> Asterisks: yes. nvidia-settings says the graphics card is running at 60º
[01:46] <lacrymology> plus, I know my computer
[01:46] <Asterisks> lacrymology: and your cpu is running at....?
[01:47] <Asterisks> just cause the graphics card is hot doesn't mean it's generating the heat, especially in an enclosed space like the inside of a computer.
[01:47] <lacrymology> Asterisks: where can I find a thermometer for the CPUs?
[01:48] <lacrymology> Asterisks: I'm 100% positive it's the graphics card. I've had this computer for years now, it's always been the graphics card. bumblebee helped somewhat, so it must have been the graphics card. I just want to know if I can turn the nvidia side off
[01:48] <Asterisks> lacrymology: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15832/how-do-i-get-the-cpu-temperature
[01:50] <Asterisks> jitesh: anything working?
[01:51] <jitesh> Asterisks, not yet :( tried the PM_DEBUG=true option. The pm-suspend.log shows "modprobe alx" as the last statement.. then there is some binary garbage and the log ends there. alx is ethernet controller, so I don't think thats a false trail to follow?
[01:51] <jitesh> anyway, lets see whether I can get some more clues
[01:51] <Asterisks> can you pastebin the log for me?
[01:52] <Donnylad> i got 1 thing i cant remove/hide i have duel boot windows 7 and ubuntu windows 7 is on hard drive 1 how do i remove/hide that hard drive from showing in files basicly i need to hide a ntfs hard drive
[01:53] <Asterisks> god, I wish people would get an IRC bouncer or quassel...   So many quits
[01:53]  * Asterisks hides quits again
[01:53] <lacrymology> Asterisks: but as you said, the CPU being hot doesn't necessarily mean it's them generating the heat
[01:54] <Asterisks> lacrymology: true, if your GPU is that hot over normal tasks, though, it suggests it's a hardware defect of some sort.  that type of heat is not normal
[01:54] <Asterisks> or it's old, which I don't think is the case?
[01:55] <lacrymology> Asterisks: it's not new, it's like.. 3 or 4 years old, but that's not the point. Do you know what an optimus is?
[01:56] <jitesh> Asterisks, here it is -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7615873/
[01:56] <Asterisks> lacrymology: I just googled it, it's big claims of extending battery life without any real explaination as to how
[01:57] <Asterisks> oh, heres a pdf on the technical part
[01:57] <Asterisks> lacrymology: will transparently and seamlessly switch between two graphics adapters within a computer system in order to provide either maximum performance or minimum power draw from the system's graphics rendering hardware.
[01:58] <Asterisks> yeah, i imagine if you have a chip that's supposed to be on only a fraction of the time running 24/7 that would generate a lot of heat.
[01:58] <lacrymology> Asterisks: it is known how to. It's a hybrid graphics card, embedded intel card + nvidia card. The thing is that there's no driver support for linux
[01:58] <lacrymology> I think there's now, but only for 14.04
[01:58] <lacrymology> I mean, for the latest kernel that hasn't been backported
[01:58] <lacrymology> anyways
[01:59] <lacrymology> Asterisks: the nvidia drivers have the chip running 24/7, th nv drivers do the same thing
[01:59] <lacrymology> Asterisks: I just *bet* that if I could uninstall all nvidia drivers and have just intel drivers running, I'd be OK until I can upgrade
[01:59] <lacrymology> Asterisks: so can you help me with that?
[01:59] <lacrymology> not just turning them off xorg.conf, though. I need to remove the kernel modules
[02:00] <Asterisks> lacrymology: sounds like a plan, let me see
[02:00] <jitesh> Asterisks, aah finally something interesting. Got this in syslog: PM: Device 00:08 failed to resume: error -19
[02:00] <jitesh> Asterisks, now to find out which device is this 00:08
[02:00] <Asterisks> lacrymology: http://ubuntuguide.net/turn-off-discrete-nvidia-optimus-graphics-card-ubuntu < do this
[02:01] <lacrymology> Asterisks: nope. That's what broke
[02:01] <lacrymology> Asterisks: bumblebee doesn't work with latest kernel
[02:01] <Asterisks> bbswitch is from the bumblebee repo, but it's not bumblebee
[02:03] <Asterisks> jitesh: any progress is still progress.  we're getting somewhere
[02:03] <lacrymology> I guess it might be worth a try, I know how to fix it if it breaks anyways
[02:03] <rvgate> I was very surprised and very disappointed that my headset (Tritton Pro+, 5.1) connected using S/SPDIF, only outputs stereo by default... I was wondering what the reasoning is behind this... You would expect that it would somehow auto-detect and utilize the 5.1 system...
[02:04] <lacrymology> Asterisks: bbswitch doesn't exist anymore. Now there's bbswitch-dkms and bbswitch-source. Any clues what dkms is?
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> !dkms | lacrymology
[02:05] <lacrymology> ok
[02:05] <Asterisks> so you want dkms
[02:08] <Asterisks> jitesh: try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/199071/problem-after-suspend-ubuntu-12-04 ( the apt-get install and remove commands)
[02:08] <Donnylad> so awesome to have steam on ubuntu i can play football manager 14 :)
[02:09] <Asterisks> football manager
[02:09] <Asterisks> you have steam and you're playing football manager.....
[02:09] <Donnylad> yer
[02:10] <Donnylad> its so awesome
[02:10] <Asterisks> play any FPSs?
[02:10] <Donnylad> that free to play or first person shooter
[02:11] <lacrymology> a friend of mine made football manager
[02:11] <lacrymology> it's a good game
[02:11] <Asterisks> first person shooter
[02:11] <Donnylad> i got it on ubuntu
[02:11] <lacrymology> but.. hey! Fez has been ported to linux. Now THERE's a game
[02:11] <Asterisks> ^ or any of the valve games
[02:12] <markolo25> is cs go out yet for ubuntu
[02:12] <Donnylad> there is some games on steam for linux install it and check the list there is a MMORPG on steam for linux free to play
[02:13] <Asterisks> markolo25: I don't think so, if it did there would be nothing keeping me on windows...
[02:13] <mudbat> I am setting up a dual boot system with Windows Vista and Ubuntu.  I already created a 100 gig partition and installed windows on it but for Ubuntu, I wanted to try out the LVM system.  I didn't want windows effected by lvm at all but I can't find out if it's possible to have just the benefits of the lvm disk management without the whole disk encryption.
[02:13] <markolo25> vista?
[02:14] <Asterisks> mudbat: sounds like wiping it would be doing yourself a favor, really...  Vista, ew.
[02:14] <mudbat> well, it's what the license is for :(
[02:14] <mudbat> I know
[02:14] <Amigadude> Asterisks: takes a long time to start apps, when I double click a .deb file it takes 2 mins for the installer to show up, after clicking the install it takes about 5 mins for the admin password request to show up
[02:15] <Donnylad> if i had 1 hard drive i would have installed ubuntu along side windows
[02:15] <Asterisks> Amigadude: probably the problem is because most apps use a single core, so they're stuck on 1GHZ.  The 1.6ghz was probably more beneficial for everyday use.
[02:16] <jitesh> Asterisks, did not work. I did not have cgroup-bin installed in the first place. I sense we are close though. Strangest thing is that device 00:08 does not exist in my lspci output. That is puzzling.
[02:16] <markolo25> Donnylad: don't you always have to install windows first
[02:16] <markolo25> since it was easier that way?
[02:16] <Donnylad> yer
[02:17] <Amigadude> so just a problem with not enough of the system being multithread?
[02:17] <Donnylad> windows you will have to partition as there is no along side option
[02:17] <Asterisks> mudbat: http://askubuntu.com/questions/204395/how-do-i-use-lvm-with-12-10-when-i-already-have-windows-8
[02:18] <Amigadude> at least I got drivers for all the hardware... better than windows 7 managed... :)
[02:18] <Asterisks> Amigadude: that's what I'm going to say.  I don't have a ton of experience with it, though.  Someone else may have a different answer, but from what I know that's the most probable.
[02:18] <lacrymology> Asterisks: didn't work. find /proc -name bbswitch returns nil
[02:18] <mudbat> Asterisks: Thank you :)
[02:19] <jitesh> Asterisks, ok. 00:08 is a Plug-n-play device. Looks like it is iwlwifi.. my wifi card. any way I can keep that out of the resume sequence?
[02:19] <Asterisks> jitesh: try unplugging your wifi card and just see if it works first
[02:20] <Asterisks> jitesh: (facepalm) you probably can't unplug it
[02:20] <jitesh> Asterisks, haha yes. I have a button to disable it in hardware though :)
[02:20] <Asterisks> do that
[02:20] <jitesh> and I can unload the module before trying to suspend
[02:20] <Asterisks> or that
[02:20] <Asterisks> and then try it
[02:20] <lazyworkaholic> Hello. Is it possible to specify that an additional package be installed along with all others at install time? (mdadm)
[02:20] <lacrymology> Asterisks: ok, modprobe made it work. But it refuses to turn off
[02:20] <jitesh> Asterisks, yep. so that will be one more "quit" message in your IRC ;)
[02:21] <Asterisks> lacrymology: "refuses"?  any specific error?
[02:21] <Amigadude> both cores are running about 50% sat here with just firefox & hexchat running (apart from system monitor)
[02:21] <Asterisks> jitesh: I have my quits hidden, i just enabled them and got spammed for a couple minutes XD
[02:22] <lacrymology> [  448.558340] bbswitch: device 0000:01:00.0 is in use by driver 'nvidia', refusing OFF
[02:22] <Asterisks> Amigadude: can you watch that while you try to bring up like a .deb?
[02:23] <Bashing-om> !mdadm | laz
[02:23] <lacrymology> Asterisks: the bbswitch docs say 'If the card stays on when trying to disable it, you've probably forgotten to unload the driver,' but not how to do it
[02:24] <Asterisks> lacrymology: https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/bbswitch#usage
[02:24] <Asterisks> lacrymology: "If the card stays on when trying to disable it, you've probably forgotten to unload the driver,"
[02:24] <lacrymology> yes that's what I'm reading
[02:24] <lacrymology> I've no clue on how to unload it. modprobe -r nvidia doesn't do anything
[02:26] <Asterisks> lacrymology: rmmod nividia
[02:27] <lacrymology> error, in use
[02:27] <Asterisks> sudo it?
[02:27] <lacrymology> I am
[02:28] <Asterisks> lacrymology: "lsmod", figure out what's using the module
[02:28] <jitesh> Asterisks, did not work. However, I am calling it a day. will do some more digging. Its time for Game of thrones!
[02:28] <jitesh> Asterisks, Thanks for your help!
[02:28] <lacrymology> Asterisks: X?
[02:29] <lacrymology> Asterisks: I mean, it's the damn graphics driver
[02:29] <lacrymology> i915 is loaded as well
[02:30] <Asterisks> jitesh: no problem, hit me up if you need any help, I'm on 24/7.
[02:30] <Amigadude> Asterisks: Did monitor while it was loading the deb...
[02:31] <Amigadude> 6-7mins of 70-100% on both cores
[02:31] <Asterisks> lacrymology: modprobe -rf nvidia
[02:31] <Donnylad> sweet DOTA 2 on steam free to download for linux
[02:31] <Asterisks> Amigadude: yeah, seems liek your processor isn't holding up.  Sorry, but theres honestly nothing I can do to help with that besides suggest you got a lighter distro
[02:31] <lacrymology> Asterisks: yeah, not working.   Maybe try to do the disable on boot part and then restart?
[02:33] <Asterisks> kcj[work]: screw up your xorf.conf, if xorg breaks then it's reading it
[02:33] <Asterisks> xorg.conf*
[02:33] <kcj[work]> I'm gonna go ahead and not do that thanks.
[02:33] <kcj[work]> ls
[02:33] <kcj[work]> oops
[02:33] <Donnylad> lol
[02:34] <Amigadude> got almost 100% above the N270 in CPU comparisons but it sure doesn't feel like it
[02:34] <sydney> :D
[02:34] <joseph1> anyone know if its possible to have multiple irc channels open in seperate windows with weechat?
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> joseph1 #weechat over 500 users there
[02:36] <joseph1> thanks
[02:38] <Donnylad> chat looks dead :)
[02:40] <Asterisks> Donnylad: good, that means that stuff's working
[02:41] <Donnylad> when i see green text with my user name whats that
[02:41] <Donnylad> is it a wisper ?
[02:42] <andlabs> ok different question
[02:42] <andlabs> is there a dedicated channel for maintaining packages?
[02:43] <jc_> does anyone know when python3 is going to upgraded to include ensurepip
[02:43] <Beldar> andlabs, Usually channels are OS or app orientated or dev...etc
[02:43] <Amigadude> why does it always take me so long to remember to switch off join/part alerts... so much easier to read
[02:43] <Asterisks> andlabs: #ubuntu-packaging maybe?  entire list is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[02:44] <andlabs> cool, thanks
[02:44] <Beldar> Amigadude, long term memory retention. ;)
[02:45] <lacrymology> ARGH
[02:45] <Donnylad> what is green text in chat ???
[02:45] <lacrymology> I uninstalled nvidia-* and even nouveau, and the nouveau kernel module is still there!
[02:46] <Beldar> Donnylad, no specifics here on hexchat, looks red here if you use my nick.
[02:46] <sydney> Donnylad:  The colors constantly change. ;)
[02:46] <sydney> Beldar: RED
[02:46] <Donnylad> Beldar you just messaged me in grean how is that done
[02:46] <Beldar> doh actually green
[02:47] <Amigadude> I'm diabetic, it screws with your memory... I my memory sucked before diabetes :)
[02:47] <Amigadude> -I
[02:47] <lazyworkaholic> Is there any way I can tell ubuntu to install an additional package besides the default ones when I'm installing it? And yes, it does matter that it have it at first boot (mdadm).
[02:47] <Beldar> Donnylad, using you nick is a notification in color and a noise of you choice
[02:47] <Beldar> your*
[02:47] <Amigadude> green highlight when someone mentions your nick... in hexchat at least
[02:47] <Asterisks> lacrymology: you try to setup disable on boot and then rebooting?  might catch it before the module loads
[02:47] <sydney> Beldar: If you are using a client. ;)
[02:47] <Beldar> yes I am
[02:48] <Beldar> err ye if you do
[02:48] <Donnylad> Beldar test
[02:48] <sydney> I use thunderbird and pidgin
[02:48] <Donnylad> like that ?
[02:48] <Beldar> Donnylad, it be green laddy
[02:48] <Beldar> Donnylad, Yeah and you can tab complete nicks
[02:48] <lacrymology> Asterisks: no clue how to do that
[02:48] <Donnylad> lol
[02:49] <sydney> so i type Bel then hit tab
[02:49] <sydney> Beldar:
[02:49] <sydney> :D
[02:49] <Beldar> Bingo
[02:49] <Donnylad> Beldar, i see now
[02:49] <Asterisks> LarrySteeze: https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/bbswitch#disable-card-on-boot
[02:49] <Beldar> I thought jack ass spelled Beldar here
[02:49] <sydney> Donnylad: it works good for long nicks,like yours. :P
[02:50] <Asterisks> I couldn't live w/o tab completion for nicks...
[02:51] <Bashing-om> !raid | lazyworkaholic
[02:51] <Amigadude> learning IRC, god that takes me back to when I was a lad... 25-30years...
[02:51] <Donnylad> sweet DOTA 2 is installed
[02:51] <sydney> Asterisks: Who ever invented it needs a good high-5 :D
[02:51] <Asterisks> sydney: that they do
[02:51] <Beldar> Amigadude, What's that sonny, let me turn up my hearing aid. ;)
[02:52] <Asterisks> Amigadude: I feel so young when people talk about learning IRC 30 years ago
[02:52] <sydney> It thunderbird,when you talk to me,it beeps,and turns the words of who talked bold.
[02:52] <Bashing-om> lazyworkaholic: As mdadm is a compeonent of raid, and the support for mdadm (raid) is on the server install.
[02:53] <Amigadude> had to wait for them to invent the internet... I still remember coding html in a text editor in the IT bunker at uni and checking it in mosaic (the only available browser)
[02:54] <Beldar> Amigadude, No punch cards, tisk tisk
[02:54] <Asterisks> I can remember windows ME, that's as old as I got.
[02:54] <andlabs> by saying you had to wait to invent the internet you're telling us you worked for ARPA in the 1960s
[02:54] <lazyworkaholic> Bashing-om: sure, but this is for a desktop install. I have /home on 2 disks.
[02:54] <andlabs> :)
[02:54] <Amigadude> 1st website was for an ANSI to CNET converter I wrote in ACE BASIC :)
[02:56] <lacrymology> Asterisks: sorry to bug you, but how do I do the "remove from boot" bit?
[02:56] <rpg32> i'm having trouble mounting my iphone, it use to work fine everytime i connected it to the USB but now it doesn't show up in Nautilus... but i see it in lsusb... any suggestions? i'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[02:56] <Beldar> rpg32, working fine in 12.04 or a later release?
[02:57] <rpg32> i'm using 12.04 now... it use to work with this version but now it doesn't
[02:57] <rpg32> i'm not sure what changed
[02:57] <Amigadude> andlabs, :) not quite just had to wait for the domestic version to become affordable :)
[02:58] <logicalguy> hi, I just installed mate 1.8 on ubuntu server.  How do I start the gui from the command line?
[02:58] <Bashing-om> lazyworkaholic: Don't know 'bout that ( split /home) are you taling 'LVM" ?
[02:58] <Beldar> rpg32, I would try the guest account as a variable check.
[02:58] <Bashing-om> talking*
[02:58] <Asterisks> lacrymology: add "bbswitch load_state=0" to /etc/modules (or /etc/modules.conf, not sure which one it is on ubuntu)
[02:58] <rpg32> oh ok... brb
[02:59] <lacrymology> Asterisks: that will add bbswitch to the load list?
[02:59] <Amigadude> ok off to find a chat channel to wibble on about being an old git... anyone got any suggestions?
[02:59] <lacrymology> or remove it?
[02:59] <Asterisks> add it
[02:59] <lacrymology> Asterisks: I just want to REMOVE nouveau
[02:59] <lacrymology> I don't care about switching anymore
[02:59] <Asterisks> that was make bbswitch load/disable the nvidia card on boot
[02:59] <lacrymology> Amigadude: #git?
[02:59] <lacrymology> hm
[02:59] <lacrymology> ok, let me try
[03:00] <Beldar> Amigadude, Practice the you kids get off my lawn.
[03:00] <rpg32> no, doesn't work as a guest either
[03:00] <lazyworkaholic> Bashing-om: LVM? No. Just two separate HDD's with /home as raid0.
[03:00] <logicalguy> hi, I just installed mate 1.8 on ubuntu server.  How do I start the gui from the command line?
[03:00] <lacrymology> brb
[03:01] <sydney> logicalguy: Good question; i would like to know this myself. :)
[03:01] <Beldar> rpg32, Did you unplug and plugin in the guest, best test would be a shutdown remove usb start go to guest and plugin. Have you used a unmount when using or just pull out the usb?
[03:01] <rpg32> just pulled out the usb
[03:02] <rpg32> and yes i unplugged, but without restart
[03:02] <rpg32> i can give that a shot
[03:02] <Beldar> rpg32, That may be the cause, always safely remove or unmount
[03:02] <rpg32> how should i do that?
[03:02] <rpg32> it is not mounting
[03:03] <Beldar> rpg32, right clicking the icon wherever you see it gives those options.
[03:03] <lazyworkaholic> Bashing-om: I had to reinstall my whole system, but now I'm having grub problems. I want to make sure not being able to find /home isn't the problem.
[03:03] <rpg32> the only place it shows up is when i look at lsusb in the terminal
[03:04] <logicalguy> sydney installing mate-desktop-environment does not install xorg, looks like
[03:04] <Beldar> rpg32, You should have been doing it, and since you have not regularly I would guess that is the cause of your problem now.
[03:04] <Beldar> rpg32, pulling without unmounting can corrupt.
[03:04] <rpg32> oh, no when it was mounting i would unmount it before unplugging... but now it isn't mounting
[03:05] <rpg32> so i just unplug now
[03:05] <Bashing-om> lazyworkaholic: I be grapsong at straws here, nut in the liveDVD environment download the mdadm package prior to install ??
[03:05] <Bashing-om> nut/but*
 rpg32, Did you unplug and plugin in the guest, best test would be a shutdown remove usb start go to guest and plugin. Have you used a unmount when using or just pull out the usb? <rpg32> just pulled out the usb So this question and answer is incorrect
[03:07] <rpg32> when i logged in as guest i just unplugged and plugged back in... because it wasn't mounted... it hasn't been mounting at all that is why i said i just unplugged it... but in any case, i will try to shut down and log in as guest and then plug in the usb afterwards... thanks, brb
[03:08] <Beldar> rpg32, Your answer when I asked was you just unplug, so just going by that till you said you have unmounted. Contradictory statements is all hard to parse. ;) JUst carefully read questions and answer accordingly
[03:09] <rpg32> ok, it still did not work
[03:09] <rpg32> i did just as you said
[03:10] <Beldar> rpg32, So in the past when mounted did you always safely remove from a right click or unmount?
[03:10] <Beldar> both right clicks or from the terminal rpg32
[03:10] <rpg32> from the arrow in Nautilus
[03:10] <rpg32> usually
[03:11] <rpg32> never really used unmount
[03:11] <Beldar> rpg32, Cool, all it takes is one not umounted removal to corrupt the usb device, just a hypothesis here but vaild.
[03:12] <rpg32> completely possible, so what would the fix be?
[03:12] <Beldar> rpg32, Not sure, it took a long tome to just get here I need a nap now. ;)
[03:13] <rpg32> anyone else have any ideas please?
[03:14] <Beldar> rpg32, may just be a file or something, I would try another OS or a live to see if it shows in the OS to startv with
[03:15] <lacrymology> Asterisks: adding bbswitch with.. the options you told me (I forget) X didn't work, blacklisting nouveau in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf didn't work
[03:15] <rpg32> it works other computers
[03:16] <Asterisks> lacrymology: gah, why do you have to have difficult hardware
[03:16] <rpg32> is there a way to mount it manually?
[03:16] <lacrymology> Asterisks: it was the cheapest machine with an acceptable GPU
[03:16] <lacrymology> Asterisks: also, with bbswitch load=0 or whatever, X didn't work but lsmod showed nouveau there allright
[03:16] <rpg32> i see it in lsusb, but i wouldn't know how to mount it using that information
[03:17] <lacrymology> ok, can someone tell me where's X's config? /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't exist
 it works other computers  When was the last time you checked?
[03:17] <rpg32> just today
[03:19] <Beldar> rpg32, cool, I'm not sure just mounting from the cli is the best move myself, but that is a guarded response. It is a apple device I would get info from somebody who really knows this thing and using it in ubuntu, might be a few here, but of the channels regualrs I see who are highly skilled I have never see them mention any apple anything used.
[03:20] <Beldar> !mnt
[03:20] <Beldar> !mount
[03:21] <Beldar> rpg32, ^^^^^^^^
[03:21] <Geometer> can someone tell me if there's a command which will tell me if two files contain the same content (diff tells me according to line differences but I need to tell differences irrespective of lines)
[03:21] <rpg32> yea, thanks i have been there and read through it
[03:23] <Beldar> rpg32, Cool it is the standard mount commands and unmount.
[03:24] <rpg32> yes, i'm familiar... i am just struggling to determine how to mount the usb
[03:25] <Beldar> rpg32, run sudo fdisk -l and see what it shows
[03:25] <gompa> http://wecan.hasthe.technology:88/
[03:26] <rpg32> it doesn't show up there
[03:26] <rpg32> just my hard drive
[03:28] <Beldar> rpg32, Hmm, I'm not sure how it would show in ubuntu, my assumption would be as a HD. With my android devices the have two types of ways to be read that can be changed on the device.
[03:29] <rpg32> from what i remember it showed up as a HD with the name Apple Iphone Inc
[03:32] <rpg32> not sure if this is helpful but dmesg provides this: [ 1453.876856] ipheth 3-1:4.2: Apple iPhone USB Ethernet device attached
[03:33] <rpg32> then it says: [ 1453.944579] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[03:33] <rpg32> and then: [ 1453.944922] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[03:33] <rpg32> Ethernet device?
[03:34] <Beldar> rpg32, I guess I would start using your google foo.
[03:34] <rpg32> been doing so
[03:35] <Beldar> rpg32, Cool, hope you get this resolved, it is a bummer. ;)
[03:35] <rpg32> have had no luck, which is why i am here... .trying other sources
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> rpg32: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126340/how-do-i-set-up-the-iphone-usb-ethernet-driver
[03:37] <rpg32> oh... interesting, haven't seen that yet.. let me give that a go, thanks lotuspsycheje
[03:40] <rpg32> ah... didn't seem to help
[04:00] <Vivekananda> hi ubuntu ppl
[04:00] <vilambit> hi
[04:01] <Vivekananda> wonder if anyone is around esp daftykin s or sudormor f
[04:01] <Vivekananda> hey vilambit yes I am fron India
[04:01] <Vivekananda> where are you from ? which part of India ?
[04:01] <Vivekananda> pretty interesting name for a computer person.
[04:06] <vilambit> hah
[04:06] <vilambit> i'm not from india
[04:06] <vilambit> but i love india :)
[04:07] <vilambit> and I play hindustani classical
[04:11] <Vivekananda> vilambit: I guessed that from your name :)
[04:11] <Vivekananda> you are NOT from India ? that is surprising
[04:11] <Vivekananda> where are you from ?
[04:12] <Vivekananda> I guess we shouldnt talk off topic on this channel though. people here are very particular about it
[04:13] <Amigadude> how do I check what speed the CPU is currently running at?
[04:15] <cobracommand> anyone else having problems updating 12.04?
[04:15] <Asterisks> Amigadude: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:15] <Asterisks> cobracommand: that is about as generic a question as you can get.
[04:15] <_1_569875443> (L)
[04:15] <cobracommand> the automatic updates
[04:16] <Asterisks> !info | cobracommand
[04:16] <Asterisks> ... wrong command
[04:16] <Asterisks> damn it
[04:16] <cobracommand> lol
[04:16] <cobracommand> !who | cobracommand
[04:18] <cobracommand> it says failed to download package files
[04:18] <cobracommand> with the update manager
[04:18] <cobracommand> and the internet is working fine, so I was wondering if anyone else was having the problem
[04:20] <cobracommand> I have another question, why if I copied a file to desktop using nautilus, I can only see it in nautilus and not with the home folder viewer?
[04:21] <Asterisks> what is the factoid for more information....
[04:22] <Asterisks> !details | cobracommand
[04:22] <Asterisks> got it!
[04:23] <Asterisks> hmm...  it might be a problem with the mirror you're using
[04:23] <Pimples> Hello guys
[04:23] <Pimples> I just started using ubuntu 3 months ago, everything was working fine, until today
[04:23] <Asterisks> Pimples: that's generally how it goes
[04:24] <Pimples> yeah, i asked somebody where i could look for help and somebody pointed it out here
[04:25] <Asterisks> yep
[04:25] <Asterisks> !ask | Pimples
[04:25] <Pimples> i see
[04:25] <Pimples> well my wine apps started to not work now, whenever i open it, it closes
[04:25] <cobracommand> i did apt-get update and it fixed it
[04:26] <Pimples> and when i tried accessing it via command line, it says something like this
[04:26] <Pimples> Direct rendering is disabled, most likely your 32-bit OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly
[04:26] <Pimples> any idea how to fix this?
[04:27] <Asterisks> any apps in particular?
[04:27] <Pimples> well games in particular
[04:27] <Pimples> any game i try to run, turns out like this.
[04:28] <Asterisks> radeon card?
[04:28] <Pimples> nvidia
[04:29] <potato_farmer> Pimples: in a VM or bare metal?
[04:29] <Pimples> bare metal
[04:29] <potato_farmer> Did you install the 32-bit OpenGL libraries?
[04:29] <potato_farmer> They are optional.
[04:30] <Pimples> well yeah, i think so
[04:30] <Pimples> they where working before
[04:30] <Asterisks> potato_farmer: I've gotta go, I'll let you take this over
[04:30] <Asterisks> Pimples: got the proprietary drivers for your card installed?
[04:30] <Pimples> yep
[04:30] <Pimples> well actually i checked it, it says activated but not in use
[04:31] <Asterisks> Pimples: https://answers.launchpad.net/pipelight/+faq/2485 scroll down to "NVIDIA (Proprietary driver)"
[04:31] <Asterisks> and I'm off, hopefully that helps.  if it doesn't, someone else can
[04:33] <Pimples> alright
[04:33] <Pimples> will try that, thanks for the suggestion
[04:34] <Pimples> ill backup things first
[04:34] <Pimples> a friend of mine suggested to just perform a clean install if ever something gets wrong
[04:50] <emma-x> I don't think so too much to do that
[04:50] <emma-x> Hi
[04:51] <emma-x> Is ubuntu good for the enterprise
[04:51] <emma-x> User management?
[04:58] <TuxRescue> morning, how can i check the bandwidth that i used?
[05:05] <rena_> TuxRescue: do you mean the amount of data that passed through the netword interface? If so, you can use ifconfig and look in the network device in use (usually eth0 for ethernet cable connection or eth1 for wifi) for the fields like the following example -  RX bytes:3128675744 (3.1 GB)  TX bytes:142583873 (142.5 MB)
[05:05] <mkrz> Hi #ubuntu, I installed oracle jre by extracting the downloaded gz file and pointing the path variables in my local profile. jre is installed at /usr/local/java. My question is if I remove the folder /usr/local/java/ and remove the path variables will jre be completely removed from the system?
[05:13] <TuxRescue> rena_: thats an idea, but when i reboot the stats are borked
[05:14] <TuxRescue> i wanna make sure that i dont come close to the DO transfer limits
[05:16] <kylin> help
[05:16] <kylin> netstat -a
[05:17] <kylin> china and beijing
[05:21] <rena_> TuxRescue: oh, I thought you just wanted something for keeping track of the data transfered in the actual session.
[05:22] <TuxRescue> :)
[05:22] <rena_> In that case, I think some script would have to be used to achieve that cumulative report you are after
[05:30] <rena_> TuxRescue: We gotta love Google. Check this out - The harder way: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/305767-bandwidth-monitoring-with-iptables ; or the easier way: http://humdi.net/vnstat/
[05:31] <TuxRescue> rena_: i came from similar pages and found that frustrating. so i asked :)
[05:33] <rena_> For the easier way, under ubuntu, just do sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get install vnstat.
[05:34] <coffe44> hi people
[05:37] <TuxRescue> thanks a lot rena_
[05:42] <guest-ecj9U2> hello everyone.
[05:43] <guest-ecj9U2> My login screen keeps reappearing after i put in my password. don't know why
[05:43] <guest-ecj9U2> I'm using the guest account right now
[05:43] <guest-ecj9U2> my home directory is mounted from another HD and I'm putting the correct password in
[05:44] <rena_> You're very welcome TuxRescue
[05:44] <rena_> guest-ecj9U2: Which version of Ubuntu are you on?
[05:45] <guest-ecj9U2> 14.04
[05:45] <guest-ecj9U2> rena_ 14.04
[05:49] <rena_> I had a similar problem but under 12.04. It happened after I messed with partitions.
[05:49] <rena_> I moved and resized partitions, as well as deleting the swap partition.
[05:49] <guest-ecj9U2> rena_ This is a fresh install too
[05:49] <Viking667> hullo again. I'm having some fairly major problems with gnome-shell. in effect, what's happening is that while gnome-shell shows up in the process list, it doesn't appear to be doing any of the things a "normal" window manager like metacity or xfce does.
[05:50] <Viking667> I don't see frames. The display doesn't update. And there's no panels
[05:50] <Viking667> In addition, I can't focus the window I started the WM from (an xterm)
[05:50] <rena_> guest-ecj9U2: Oh, then that is a surprise to me and maybe above my level of expertise.
[05:51] <Viking667> If I do a Ctl-C, the WM decorations all go away, and I'm finally left with the error message the WM spat out
[05:52] <guest-ecj9U2> ok thanks rena_
[05:52] <Viking667> so, my question now, is: what do I do next to try and debug the cause of this issue with gnome-shell (Ubuntu 14.04, 32-bit)
[05:57] <rena_> You're welcome Guest2419 . I'm sorry that I could not help you figure it out. Normally in cases like that I would look in syslog for errors at the time you tried to login. That could pinpoint the cause of the "bug" and help to figure out how to fix it
[05:58] <guest-ecj9U2> rena_ where is the syslog?
[05:58] <rena_> it's in /var/log/syslog
[06:27] <paorz> new to ubuntu... my HP printer seems like it should be working, but nothing happens with test page...any ideas?
[06:28] <harris>  good
[06:28] <harris>   ech
[06:33] <rethus> is there a way to create an installscript, which work on 64bit and 32 bit version of ubuntu?
[06:33] <rethus> need to automate an installation oft Webdevelopment Enviroment
[06:46] <makara> how can I change the column width in Nautilus?
[06:48] <UnicornAssassin_> makara next to the column labels isa faint vertical line. left click and drag that
[06:57] <jo-erlend> rethus, I would think so. Have you tried?
[07:08] <blueingress> Hey, How can I update to 14.10 from 14.04 lts? thanks
[07:08] <lastarms> blueingress: have you tried do-release-upgrade ?
[07:08] <d3vlin> I think that would be a downgrade ;)
[07:09] <lastarms> wait... is 14.10 available yet?
[07:09] <lastarms> blueingress: are you a dev?
[07:09] <cfhowlett> lastarms no it isn't
[07:09] <cfhowlett> blueingress 14.10 comes out in October.
[07:21] <gdm85> I am bulding the kernel with the procedure explained here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile this guide would need an update, but that's another topic.. :)
[07:21] <gdm85> do I need to build also modules or those will be fine because of ABI compatibility?
[07:24] <ikonia> gdm85: you tell us if YOU need to make modules
[07:24]  * gdm85 added another ignore
[07:26] <TuxRescue> why does google think i am in turkey when the server is located in amsterdam, nl?
[07:26] <TuxRescue> WTF
[07:27] <TuxRescue> so i get their censorship, bravo
[07:28] <ikonia> TuxRescue: nothing to do with ubuntu
[07:28] <TuxRescue> oops, wrong channel
[07:28] <ikonia> easy done
[07:28] <TuxRescue> and sorry about the language
[07:29] <ikonia> no sweat, easy to slip
[07:38] <makara> hi. The sysadmin changed the DNS from old site to new site but I don't see a change from firefox, curl or wget
[07:38] <makara> ping and dig show the correct IP
[07:38] <makara> I've tried rebooting
[07:39] <ikonia> sounds like you may have cache in your browser, or a static host map on your host
[07:42] <planetmaker> makara, firefox sometimes has weired caching issues. Try to delete its cache
[07:42] <planetmaker> or at least the page you have problems with from its history
[07:43] <makara> the sysadmin installed new dnsservers
[07:44] <ikonia> makara: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[07:44] <makara> I don't want to explicitely set them in /etc/network/interfaces because I use my computer elsewhere
[07:44] <makara> 14.04
[07:44] <makara> so does 14.04 just query the gateway for dns?
[07:44] <ikonia> makara: it gets dns from dhcp
[07:45] <ikonia> makara: or from what you set it
[07:45] <ikonia> makara: but you've already said dns is working as you can ping the correct host
[07:45] <makara> yeah
[07:45] <ikonia> makara: do "nslookup www.yourhost.com" and verify that the dns servers you are using show the right host/ip multiple times
[07:45] <makara> it's correct
[07:46] <ikonia> ok, so you know dns is not the problems, so either a.) your browser b.) your website is the problem
[07:46] <makara> website?
[07:46] <Galvan> Hi all. Is there any way to make firefox look like the windows 7 version? I mean the aero transparent tabs stuff.
[07:46] <makara> curl and wget both give me the old website frontpage
[07:46] <ikonia> makara: well, as you said "the browser" I assume you are viewing a website with the browser
[07:47] <ikonia> makara: ok, so it seems logical then that it is the target that is being wrong
[07:47] <robotdevil> Can someone please tell me the GENERIC config entry for snd-hda-intel to add to the end of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base for headphone sound switching. All the how to I find have specific models for notebooks and such. I need the plain jane one/
[07:48] <cfhowlett> Galvan search the firefox add-ons for a win7 plugiin
[07:48] <cfhowlett> theme
[07:48] <makara> i tried to set the dns-servers in curl but it says not included in build
[07:48] <ikonia> makara: you don't need to set the dns servers
[07:48] <ikonia> you already know they are working - you've confirmed this
[07:49] <robotdevil> I had my configs backed up, but accidentally formatted drive
[07:49] <robotdevil> fail
[07:49] <makara> wget and curl don't give me the correct page
[07:49] <makara> wget, curl and firefox
[07:49] <makara> ping and dig do
[07:49] <ikonia> makara: right, so if 3 browser situtations are giving you the wrong page - but the right dns, what does that tell you
[07:49] <ikonia> makara: its either a.) the target b.) something in between you/target
[07:50] <robotdevil> nm http://docs.slackware.com/howtos:hardware:audio_and_snd-hda-intel
[07:50] <robotdevil> yay
[07:51] <makara> ikonia: ok, so I've tried --no-dns-cache on wget. I've tried Ctrl+F5 on Firefox and traceroute ends at the gateway
[07:52] <ikonia> makara: that changes nothing I've said
[07:52] <ikonia> makara: you already KNOW dns is WORKING - so I don't understand why you are trying different cache options
[07:52] <ikonia> makara: it is either a.) the target b.) something between you and the target
[07:52] <makara> ok, DNS is working
[07:58] <[Saint]> Can anyone enlighten me as to what it is that would be auto mounting a partiton that isn't listed in fstab?
[07:58] <[Saint]> Potentially relevant disk information: http://pastebin.com/taUKBEn2
[07:59] <[Saint]> sda8 is getting automounted - but, by what?
[08:01] <Fyodorovna> [Saint], Have you confirmed the uuid's  with sudo blkid with fstab entries
[08:02] <[Saint]> Fyodorovna: everything this is listed in fstab is kosher, yes.
[08:02] <[Saint]> Its just this one partition that is getting automounted by something apparebntly ungreppable.
[08:02] <[Saint]> (or, I'm failing on my grep fu)
[08:02] <Fyodorovna> [Saint], Ah I missed the uuid command my mistake. ;)
[08:03] <[Saint]> Np.
[08:03] <[Saint]> I'm slightly confused by this "helpful" feature.
[08:04] <Fyodorovna> [Saint], Looks like a uefi setup, and gpt, not idea why it would mount sda8 though.
[08:05] <[Saint]> Fyodorovna: No UEFI, no.
[08:06] <[Saint]> Whatever is auto mounting this partition has the smarts to leave it alone if I manually insert an entry for sda8 in fstab
[08:06] <Fyodorovna> [Saint] does sda8 contain any clones?
[08:06] <[Saint]> Its not so much of a problem, and I worked around it.
[08:07] <[Saint]> I would just like to know *what* it is that thinks it should be auto mounting partitions.
[08:07] <[Saint]> And, why?
[08:07] <Fyodorovna> [Saint], a clone of ubuntu for example
[08:07] <[Saint]> Fyodorovna: it does not, no.
[08:07] <Fyodorovna> cool
[08:07] <helmut_> hi
[08:07] <[Saint]> It is completely empty.
[08:07] <Ben64> maybe it sees it as an external drive or something?
[08:10] <[Saint]> I didn't notice anything was amiss until I went to mount the partition I assumed wasn't already mounted in order to export a git checkout to it
[08:10] <[Saint]> "already mounted, owned by root...wait, what?"; then...here.
[08:10] <Fyodorovna> [Saint], is it read only?
[08:11] <[Saint]> Fyodorovna: no
[08:11] <[Saint]> root has RW
[08:12] <Fyodorovna> [Saint], I have never bothers to learn that stuff, thanks I could not tell from the paste, thanks.
[08:13] <[Saint]> Fyodorovna: that's fine - the paste gives no useful information on the question you asked.
[08:14] <Layke> How do I stop the really loud THRUMP when I hit <tab> for instance in terminal?
[08:14] <[Saint]> Gah. Yes it does. Need coffee.
[08:14] <Layke> It's the autocmplete sound
[08:14] <Layke> It's above the sound of anythying else on my system.
[08:15] <[Saint]> Layke: that will be your systems amp disengaging
[08:15] <[Saint]> (if its an audible thump that obviously isn't a system sound)
[08:16] <Layke> Well, I mean my description of the sound was bad :) It is a machine sound. It sounds like a warning notification
[08:16] <Layke> It's because it's telling me that there are no autocomplete availabilities
[08:16] <Layke> But like my spotify sound might be like 20% and this volume is a few times louder
[08:17] <[Saint]> That's...weird.
[08:17] <[Saint]> I have no such sound.
[08:17] <[Saint]> Unless I turn my volume up WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY high.
[08:17] <Layke> Found it :) It was "Terminal Bell"
[08:17] <Layke> I have been through the terminal profile settings sooo many times
[08:17] <Layke> Looking for sound configuration
[08:18] <[Saint]> And even then, it seems to be interference from my amp and wireless keyboard, and not a system sound)
[08:18] <[Saint]> I'm on a newly installed 14.04 install right now that I literally have done nothing with except for try to mount a partition and have a "wtf?!?" moment and came in here.
[08:19] <[Saint]> tab completion in terminal is absolutely silent.
[08:19] <[Saint]> (unless, as descibed, if I turn my volume up so loud that I can here the interference induced by the keypresses of my wireless keyboard)
[08:20] <[Saint]> So loud I can here my CPUs changing clocks, in fact. :)
[08:21] <robynata> :-!
[08:23] <robotdevil> wow is dolphin-emu ever getting good
[08:23] <[Saint]> Layke: does pissing around with Settings - Sound Settings - Sound Effects / Alert Volume yeild any fruit?
[08:28] <Pr0jectRec0n> so I have a xubuntu machine with an AMD card connected, but I'm using the VGA out - directly from the mobo - so it should be using the on-board (intel VGA) drivers, correcct? how do I double-check this ?
[08:28] <[Saint]> Maybe I should ask my question in the Ubuntu G+ community
[08:28]  * [Saint] smirks slightly
[08:28] <Pr0jectRec0n> but when I do a 'lspci | grep -i vga' I get the AMD cards info..
[08:29] <simbageoleo> anyone on here use lubuntu
[08:30] <cebor> Hi, after every reboot my Ipv6 Address is not set, i can fix it with "ifdown && ifup"! My config: https://gist.github.com/cebor/23e0756d4ff7218dc95a Please Help me!
[08:31] <[Saint]> Pr0jectRec0n: my initial thought is that it isn't listed there, perhaps, because its not using a PCI bus?
[08:31] <Fyodorovna> simbageoleo, commonly addressed here, outline the issue.
[08:32] <simbageoleo> Fyodorovna, my wireless is greyed out saying the switch needs enabling but there is no switch
[08:32] <simbageoleo> Fyodorovna, and i tryed the fn+f1 to enable it nothing happens
[08:32] <daschel> when copying a large chunk of data in nautilus, how can I determine whether the process is hung or just taking a long time?
[08:33] <Fyodorovna> simbageoleo, Is lubuntu an added desktop to a ubuntu install?
[08:33] <simbageoleo> Fyodorovna, no lubuntu is the only os on this machine
[08:34] <Fyodorovna> simbageoleo, So a lubuntu install, no other desktop ever?
[08:34] <simbageoleo> Fyodorovna, it was windows xp prev but i changed it
[08:34] <Fyodorovna> simbageoleo, not operating system but desktops.
[08:35] <simbageoleo> Fyodorovna, its a laptop
[08:35] <Fyodorovna> Fyodorovna, I mean desktop as the guided user interface of lubuntu.
[08:36] <simbageoleo> Fyodorovna, i am new to this termonoligy i dont think i am quite getting what you mean
[08:36] <Fyodorovna> simbageoleo, This was and has been only a lubuntu desktop.
[08:36] <simbageoleo> Fyodorovna,  yes
[08:37] <[Saint]> How does one "add Lubuntu to an Ubuntu install"?
[08:37]  * [Saint] senses he's being somewhat pedantic
[08:39] <daschel> [Saint]: do you just want to use the DE from Lubuntu or what?
[08:39] <Fyodorovna> simbageoleo, desktop can mean a desktop computer, so for example if you wanted to install xubuntu, you would in the terminal run sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop that help in the understanding of the term desktop in this context.
[08:39] <Fyodorovna> two meanings
[08:40] <shunya_chakra> hi
[08:40] <simbageoleo> Fyodorovna,  i think so lol
[08:40] <[Saint]> daschel: neither - I was being somewhat pedantic about someone else's poor choice of wording that made a sentence needlessly confusing.
[08:40] <daschel> ah, ok.  i only caught the tail end
[08:41] <Fyodorovna> simbageoleo, Cool, not sure on the wifi though, I wonder if you are just missing a driver, the wifi hardware is shown if you in the terminal run lspci
[08:41] <Fyodorovna> give us that wifi hardware ino simbageoleo
[08:41] <Fyodorovna> info*
[08:42] <shunya_chakra> getting this trying to  update This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources
[08:42] <simbageoleo> Fyodorovna, 01:01.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[08:42] <Fyodorovna> shunya_chakra, pastebin the whole update upgrade run in the terminal
[08:43] <shunya_chakra> Fyodorovna, i have to pastebin these to apt-get update and apt-get upgrade ????
[08:44] <Fyodorovna> shunya_chakra, In the terminal run sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade and pastebin all the text including the commands, you do not have to install you have a yes or no option.
[08:44] <[Saint]> Surely just sources.list would be sufficient?
[08:45] <[Saint]> That's the bit that actually matters in the end.
[08:45] <llutz> shunya_chakra: get the missing keys, add them using sudo apt-key
[08:46] <Fyodorovna> simbageoleo, I have the feeling you are missing a wifi driver, and I think we had a conversation earlier and I gave you this thread, maybe maybe not, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=309041
[08:46] <Fyodorovna> shunya_chakra, llutz is correct, I wanted to se what the missing keys were with the commands.
[08:47] <shunya_chakra> Fyodorovna, sudo apt-get update ... pastebin ...http://pastebin.com/ceEMqjwm
[08:47] <shunya_chakra> llutz, Fyodorovna  how can add add key?
[08:47] <shunya_chakra> means wehre can i get that
[08:48] <Fyodorovna> shunya_chakra, try this command then run another update sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 1DB8ADC1CFCA9579
[08:49] <Fyodorovna> shunya_chakra, That key number is in the red highlight
[08:49] <shunya_chakra> Fyodorovna, ok, i think now apt-get upgrade working
[08:49] <shunya_chakra> Fyodorovna, that hex number??
[08:49] <shunya_chakra> red
[08:50] <Fyodorovna> shunya_chakra, no upgrade needed as far as pastebin, just follow the last post
[08:50] <Fyodorovna> shunya_chakra, yes that hex with as the command I gave you
[08:50] <Fyodorovna>  sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 1DB8ADC1CFCA9579
[08:51] <shunya_chakra> Fyodorovna, ohk, I run upgrade command.. and it's working.. is i need to stop upgrade than....
[08:51] <shunya_chakra> add key.. then again upgrade?
[08:51] <naresh> hey
[08:51] <shunya_chakra> hello
[08:51] <Fyodorovna> shunya_chakra, no never stop a upgrade
[08:51] <simbageoleo> Fyodorovna, i have tried looking for additional drivers but none were found
[08:51] <naresh> hey
[08:51] <Fyodorovna> shunya_chakra, add key and run the update to see if you get the same info or it is clean
[08:51] <shunya_chakra> naresh, you can ask directly
[08:52] <shunya_chakra> ok Fyodorovna, ok I'll stop that and add key than run it again
[08:52] <Fyodorovna> simbageoleo, May not be in the repos that is the point, and this is a conjecture, have you read the resolved link on the exact wifi hardware I gave you.
[08:52] <Fyodorovna> shunya_chakra, DO NOT STOP A UPGRADE
[08:53] <Fyodorovna> shunya_chakra, I am having the deeling you are not clearly reading my posts.
[08:53] <Fyodorovna> feeling
[08:53] <simbageoleo> Fyodorovna, yes but what am i looking at here
[08:53] <Fyodorovna> simbageoleo, The possible answer that fixed the issue on that specific wifi hardware.
[08:54] <shunya_chakra> Fyodorovna, ok , I'll wait... it take time to download update..
[08:54] <simbageoleo> Fyodorovna, i done the commands now what
[08:55] <justaguy> So, did full disk encryption, but @ startup where i need to unlock, it's in qwerty, and i'm an azerty user... , so cant unlock my hdd yey
[08:55] <Fyodorovna> simbageoleo, I'm not going to be able to help you.
[08:55] <shunya_chakra> Fyodorovna, Thanks so much!
[08:55] <Fyodorovna> shunya_chakra, No prob.
[08:56] <[Saint]> FWIW - you can stop an upgrade, as long as you resume it afterward.
[08:56] <[Saint]> ^Z; do stuff; fg *
[08:56] <[Saint]> (where * is the process id)
[08:57] <simbageoleo> Fyodorovna, great so you lead me into the woods just to run off and leave me for dead
[08:57] <Fyodorovna> justaguy, besides this issue, encryption is a good way to never see your data again.
[08:58] <lastarms> simbageoleo: what do you need help on?
[08:59] <[Saint]> simbageoleo: is this some magical world where people are obligated to assist you?
[08:59] <simbageoleo> lastarms, i need help enabling my wireless
[08:59] <justaguy> Fyodorovna: ... i'm smart enough to remember my password
[08:59] <lastarms> simbageoleo: intel wifi ?
[08:59] <simbageoleo> lastarms,  correst
[08:59] <Fyodorovna> justaguy, That is just one possibility, but heh it's your data. ;)
[08:59] <lastarms> simbageoleo: usually intel drivers are built into the kernel and should be plug and play.
[09:00] <simbageoleo> lastarms, when i did the updates no additional drivers were found
[09:00] <lastarms> update as in sudo apt-get update?
[09:00] <simbageoleo> lastarms,  correct
[09:01] <lastarms> apt-get update as far as I know doesn't deal with drivers
[09:01] <lastarms> simbageoleo: try running iwconfig
[09:02] <simbageoleo> lastarms, lo eth0 and eth1
[09:03] <lastarms> so you don't have a wifi attached
[09:03] <lastarms> simbageoleo: how about lsusb?
[09:03] <simbageoleo> lastarms, there is a wireless chip in this machine also an external card
[09:03] <Dylen34842> Would something like this work to replace the contents of all the files in a directory with the contents of another? find /home/test -name \*.yml -exec cat /home/filecopy/test.yml > {} \; I cant figure out how to format it correctly
[09:04] <Fyodorovna> lastarms, 01:01.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)  from the user lspci
[09:04] <lastarms> hrmmm
[09:04] <simbageoleo> lastarms,  Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[09:04] <simbageoleo> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[09:04] <simbageoleo> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[09:04] <lastarms> did you check if there is a physical switch for the wireless?
[09:05] <rhel> hi
[09:05] <lastarms> hi rhel
[09:05] <simbageoleo> lastarms,  yes there is non and i already tryed the fn+f1 to enable it
[09:06] <lastarms> simbageoleo: try sudo modprobe ipw2200
[09:07] <simbageoleo> lastarms, nothing happened in the terminal
[09:07] <lastarms> try iwconfig again
[09:07] <lastarms> see if it works
[09:08] <simbageoleo> lastarms, nope same as before
[09:08] <lastarms> do you have an ethernet cable attached?
[09:08] <[Saint]> System Settings - Software and Updates - Additional Drivers
[09:08] <simbageoleo> lastarms, yes thats what i am using atm
[09:09] <[Saint]> In the unlikely event that the OS needs to pull in additional drivers, this will trigger it to do so.
[09:10] <[Saint]> It will also tell you what, if any, proprietary drivers are in use.
[09:10] <lastarms> simbageoleo: Searching the forum, I found a few people with the same cases
[09:10] <lastarms> simbageoleo: they have a lot of "ways" that you can try
[09:11] <lastarms> simbageoleo: could you try each of them?
[09:11] <simbageoleo> lastarms, sure i have no idea what the code means i just type it
[09:11] <lastarms> http://pastebin.com/PTFhrKp6
[09:12] <lastarms> simbageoleo: try to follow what they say
[09:12] <lastarms> simbageoleo: read to the end before trying the commands
[09:12] <lastarms> simbageoleo: bests of luck
[09:12] <lastarms> simbageoleo: and try [Saint] 's advice
[09:12]  * [Saint] just wishes to say that, generally speaking, it is a pretty bad idea to blindly c/p random bits of code from teh infowebs
[09:13] <lastarms> [Saint]: it's a bad idea to copy codes from anywhere
[09:13] <lastarms> unless you know what you're doing
[09:13] <lastarms> which I think most people don't
[09:13] <lastarms> makes life fun though
[09:13] <lastarms> sysadmins doing rm -rf /
[09:13] <[Saint]> Well, yes, but from some areas you have somewhat of an expectation that nothing malicious is intended.
[09:14] <lastarms> [Saint]: that's how a virus was create
[09:14] <lastarms> created*
[09:14] <[Saint]> In the public space, however, this isn't so - if you're not able to discern what is safe yourself.
[09:15] <lastarms> [Saint]: that's why you need to know what you are doing, or be prepared to be screwed by trolls
[09:16] <[Saint]> This is one of the reasons I like to keep a few virtual machines on hand
[09:16] <lastarms> [Saint]: debugs and to try out stuff
[09:16] <[Saint]> So you can study an unknown binary before introducing it to "the real world".
[09:16] <lastarms> [Saint]: I would really like to try to do rm -rf and see what I will get
[09:17] <[Saint]> Depending on the OS, it may or may not be smart enough to warn you against it being a very bad idea.
[09:17] <[Saint]> Or, it may just happily procede and nuke itself.
[09:18] <lastarms> [Saint]: I think ubuntu requires the additional command
[09:18] <[Saint]> Last time I tried this I believe all debianesque systems had a "yeah, you probably don't wanna do that...but, if you do..." prompt.
[09:19] <mexi_d3> I think * will work but /* will produce a confirmation/warning
[09:19] <lastarms> [Saint]: I still don't get how sysadmins can be dumb enough to trigger that
[09:19] <lastarms> sudo rm -rf /
[09:19] <mexi_d3> lastarms: I've done it accidentally. Been in the wrong folder, or put a space in by mistake due to typo
[09:19] <Pr0jectRec0n> I installed this l2tp-ipsec-vpn from a launchpad PPA following instrrcutions from here: http://bailey.st/blog/2011/07/14/connecting-to-a-l2tpipsec-vpn-from-ubuntu-desktop/ -- It looks liek that PPA doesn't havbe any sources for Trusty (which is what I run) as apt-get update times out for trusty for that repo
[09:20] <[Saint]> There's a case for it.
[09:20] <[Saint]> You may be running entirely from /boot at the time, for instance
[09:20] <Fyodorovna> !ppa | Pr0jectRec0n
[09:20] <[Saint]> and nuking/replacing the / image
[09:20] <mexi_d3> [Saint]: For example "rm j* and typo to "rm j *"
[09:20] <lastarms> [Saint]: ho- I've never thought of that!
[09:21] <Fyodorovna> Pr0jectRec0n, So th e issue is getting the actual packages?
[09:21] <lastarms> sometime I think that using rm is very dangerous and should not be used.
[09:21] <lastarms> especially if you have a desktop
[09:22] <Pr0jectRec0n> Fyodorovna, my question is it installed something when I tried to install l2tp-ipsec-vpn -- but everytime on login I get this : http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/8b2ae97e
[09:22] <geirha> That's why you do backups ... so you can use rm
[09:22] <[Saint]> That's like saying you shouldn't use the delete key.
[09:22] <lastarms> [Saint]: Delete actually just moves it to trash no?
[09:22] <mexi_d3> there's no trash on command line, unless you installed one
[09:22] <[Saint]> Depending on how your system is configured, yes.
[09:23] <Fyodorovna> Pr0jectRec0n, No idea myself, just was trying to decipher your post, and point out ppa support here
[09:23] <lastarms> Pr0jectRec0n: I don't understand what you are trying to say
[09:23] <[Saint]> In my usual setups, delete is functionally equivalent to rm
[09:23] <lastarms> Pr0jectRec0n: you stated what I thought was a fact... and you showed us your system needs updating.
[09:23] <[Saint]> Its not like I can't still recover anything deleted accidentally.
[09:23] <lastarms> Pr0jectRec0n: are you in need of something?
[09:24] <[Saint]> ...assuming it wasn't immediately written over, which is unlikely.'
[09:24] <lastarms> [Saint]: you have backups then
[09:24] <[Saint]> delete isn't so much delete, itsa more...forget this exists.
[09:24] <geirha> Pr0jectRec0n: It just means there are updates available
[09:24] <Pr0jectRec0n> Fyodorovna, And everytime I do an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade - I see these : http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/54a2b9ee
[09:24] <lastarms> [Saint]: people start learning that they need backup after their precious stuff disappears
[09:24] <[Saint]> My systems image to the NAS every 24h
[09:25] <geirha> Pr0jectRec0n: You apparently have some ppas that no longer exist
[09:25] <[Saint]> But, I haven't needed to use a backup in a few years.
[09:25] <Pr0jectRec0n> geirha, Fyodorovna - now I want o go back to the original way - that is UNDO everything I did - that is the stuff from http://bailey.st/blog/2011/07/14/connecting-to-a-l2tpipsec-vpn-from-ubuntu-desktop/ - how easily can I achieve that
[09:25] <Pr0jectRec0n> ?
[09:25] <Fyodorovna> Pr0jectRec0n, all ppa's read the bots message.
[09:25] <Guest34591> How do I recover my volume and time applets on my ubuntu desktop?
[09:26] <Fyodorovna> !ppa-purge | Pr0jectRec0n
[09:26] <Guest50617> hello world
[09:26] <lastarms> Pr0jectRec0n: and do sudo apt-get purge l2tp-ipsec-vpn
[09:26] <Fyodorovna> Guest34591, Sounds like you turned off the function
[09:27] <lastarms> [Saint]: I used to backup to another HDD, until I cleaned up
[09:27] <lastarms> [Saint]: now all important documents are backed up the cloud
[09:27] <Guest34591> Fyodorovna: How did I do that and how do I recover them?
[09:27] <Pr0jectRec0n> Fyodorovna, lastarms - thanks guys - will try and report back!
[09:27] <[Saint]> backing up to the same physical machine is...problematic, potentially.
[09:27] <Fyodorovna> Guest34591, Actualy I missread that as a desktop function, not sure
[09:27] <lastarms> [Saint]: backip up the same machine is not called backing up..
[09:28] <Pr0jectRec0n> however, in an apt-get upgrade, why wpuld it keep back ' linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic parole' ? - Is this something to do with apt-get update not completing successfully (due to that erroneous launchpad ppa)?
[09:28] <Guest34591> Fyodorovna: I get the impression that they went away with the last kernel updat
[09:29] <Pr0jectRec0n> Guest34591, were you talking to me?
[09:29] <[Saint]> Pr0jectRec0n: dist-upgrade will pull those remaining packages in
[09:29] <Fyodorovna> Guest34591, You can choose any installed kernel at the grub menu to confrim.
[09:29] <lastarms> Pr0jectRec0n: just do sudo apt-get install linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic parole
[09:29] <Pr0jectRec0n> [Saint], but but.. I don't want to do a dist-upgrade - I'm on 14.04 and would want to remain on 14.04
[09:29] <[Saint]> throw "apt-get dist-upgrade && update grub" at it.
[09:30] <[Saint]> Pr0jectRec0n: you *will* remain on 14.04
[09:30] <Pr0jectRec0n> [Saint], so - what's diff with dist-upgrade?
[09:30] <Guest34591> I talk with whoever  can help me get back the time on the top of my desktop as well as the volume control
[09:30] <[Saint]> Pr0jectRec0n: ask google about it
[09:31] <xubuntu_> hello world
[09:31] <Fyodorovna> Guest34591, You are not going to confirm your hypothesis?
[09:31] <xubuntu_> hello
[09:31] <Guest34591> Pr0jectRec0n: Fyodorovna : I'm looking for help to recover my time on top of the screen as well as the volume control
[09:31] <Guest34591> Fyodorovna: How do I confirm that?
[09:31] <simbageoleo> lastarms, how di i bring up the wireless icon please
[09:31] <lastarms> simbageoleo: ?
[09:32] <Fyodorovna> Guest34591> Fyodorovna: How do I confirm that?  Fyodorovna> Guest34591, You can choose any installed kernel at the grub menu to confrim.
[09:32] <Guest34591> Fyodorovna: You mean to reboot from a previous kernel to see ... ?
[09:32] <Fyodorovna> to confirm*
[09:32] <Fyodorovna> Guest34591, Yes.
[09:32] <Guest34591> Will try
[09:33] <[Saint]> Guest34591: Settings - System Settings - Sound - Show sound volume in the menu bar; and Settings - System Settings - Time and Data - Clock - Show clock in menu bar
[09:34] <[Saint]> Ahhhh...ffs.
[09:34] <[Saint]> Way to be patient, guy.
[09:35]  * [Saint] wonders when people became to expect IRC to be real-time support
[09:35] <[Saint]> I feel like starting a "back in my day..." rant
[09:36] <lastarms> [Saint]: well, there are a lot of linux users now
[09:36] <lastarms> and they are expecting windows/mac support
[09:36] <lastarms> which have never existed
[09:36] <lastarms> but humans will be humans
[09:36] <lastarms> even when they have google
[09:36] <lastarms> I used to have to scour the forum when google was still small
[09:37] <[Saint]> Back in my day, we had to walk 15 miles in the snow to use IRC.
[09:37] <[Saint]> And it was uphill all the way there, and back!
[09:37] <Fyodorovna> lastarms, I had to tell a MS tech what to do to get a activation key made, and get W8.1 installed with a disk that was sent supposedly pre-activated, was not.
[09:37] <lastarms> luckily I've never had to do that
[09:37] <Pr0jectRec0n> lol - even the ppa-purge failed for the same reason : http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/d14c72f7
[09:38] <lastarms> guys, remind me. For Pr0jectRec0n, all that's left is to just delete the folder right?
[09:39] <Pr0jectRec0n> well, I wanted to do it the 'clean' way - ppa-purge and then purge the installed package
[09:39] <lastarms> Pr0jectRec0n: A reason why I hate PPA
[09:40] <Fyodorovna> Pr0jectRec0n, Did you add it to the sources.list rather tha sources.list.d
[09:40] <Pr0jectRec0n> Fyodorovna, I didnt do anything manually - whatever is given opn the site here: http://bailey.st/blog/2011/07/14/connecting-to-a-l2tpipsec-vpn-from-ubuntu-desktop/
[09:41] <taviash> I have a static library which I'm trying to link in cmake. the file to locatead in  '/usr/xenomai/lib/libanalogy.a' I do  "link_directories(/usr/xenomai/lib/)" and then  "target_link_libraries(${PROJECT_NAME} analogy)" but still get a linker  error
[09:42] <Fyodorovna> Pr0jectRec0n, pastebin the output from this command grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[09:42] <newbie|2> Fyodorovna: I booted from a previous kernel.  Same problem ... partially.  I used to have the time on the top of the screen.  I got it, but on the bottom of the screen (I can deal with that, though I'd prefer on the top), but the volume control, however, is still imopssible.  I found it, but it was light gray, so I couldn't choose it
[09:43] <Fyodorovna> newbie|2, the ubuntu desktop has no bottom panel.
[09:43] <newbie|2> Fyodorovna: My error, I'm using Ubuntu Studio, but that should be like Ubuntu, shouldn't it?
[09:43] <Fyodorovna> commonly called unity
[09:43] <Fyodorovna> newbie|2, Is no that a xubuntu]
[09:44] <Fyodorovna> is not
[09:44] <newbie|2> Fyodorovna: I looked at the ubuntustudio IRC channel, but there are 39 people and I don't have hours to wait for an answer
[09:45] <lastarms> newbie|2: what was your problem?
[09:45] <Fyodorovna> newbie|2, does not answer the question, is that not a xubuntu desktop
[09:46] <newbie|2> I think it's a ubuntu desktop.  What differs is that on the bottom, there is a group of buttons
[09:46] <newbie|2> Stuff to click on
[09:47] <Fyodorovna> newbie|2, Is there a panel on the left of the screen?
[09:47] <newbie|2> lastarms: I'm using Ubuntu and Ubuntu Studio.  After the latest upgrade of the kernel, I have no more the time and volume controls that I had before
[09:47] <lastarms> Fyodorovna: I think he's using a "theme"
[09:48] <Fyodorovna> newbie|2, How about a screenshot
[09:48] <newbie|2> Fyodorovna: Nothing on the left
[09:48] <Fyodorovna> lastarms, unity has no bottom panel, \
[09:48] <lastarms> newbie|2: you can't listen to audio? or you can't control the audio?
[09:48] <lastarms> Fyodorovna: I think he's using gnome
[09:48] <Fyodorovna> newbie|2, That is not a ubuntu desktop, you would have a panel on the edt
[09:48] <Fyodorovna> lefy*
[09:49] <newbie|2> lastarms: audio control.  I can't change the volume
[09:49] <Fyodorovna> left* DOH
[09:49] <Fyodorovna> lastarms, gnome what at the least two options, I know what they have.
[09:49] <newbie|2> Fyodorovna: How do I share the screenshot?
[09:50] <Fyodorovna> newbie|2, never mind, not an issue I will help with.
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[09:50] <unopaste> newbie|2 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:51] <Pr0jectRec0n> newbie|2, lol
[09:51] <lastarms> audio issue is a hassle to fix... with pulse and alsa doing whatever they like...
[09:51] <lastarms> I can't help with that... totally no clue
[09:51] <lastarms> newbie|2: try googling
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[09:52] <lastarms> newbie|2: see if you can find any help in regards to that
[09:52] <lastarms> maybe there are someone who has the same issue with you
[09:52] <Schalla> He really pasted a PNG image?^^
[09:53] <lastarms> Schalla: from the codes, yup
[09:53] <Schalla> Yeah the file header is a PNG, I just wondered.
[09:53] <lastarms> He probably should quit before he gets banned permanentl
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[09:53] <Schalla> :D
[09:53] <lastarms> newbie|2: quit
[09:54] <Fyodorovna> lastarms, long gone
[09:54] <Luisja> I am about to install xubuntu, dual booting with windows 8. I rezised my W8 partition, leaving it at 70 GB (50GB already used). I am going to use an ntfs partition (storage) to share documents, music, etc between both OS using symlinks. Creating an aditional partition for Home is needed or is redundant? what size should the home partition be (compared to storage)
[09:54] <lastarms> getting banned in #ubuntu is the last thing you want to happen
[09:54] <newbie|2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7617257/
[09:54] <Schalla> Any recommendations for a authentication method to use for courier,postfix and maybe even ftp?
[09:54] <simbageoleo> question what flavour of ubuntu or linus do you guys reccomend for a noob with a very old notebook
[09:54] <newbie|2> lastarms: Sorry, didn't realise that ...
[09:54] <ikonia> simbageoleo: how many users ?
[09:54] <lastarms> Schalla: Tacacs or Radius or Cerberus
[09:54] <Schalla> simbageoleo, most likely Ubuntu.
[09:55] <Schalla> *Xubuntu
[09:55] <lastarms> newbie|2: png, try to use imgur or something
[09:55] <Fyodorovna> Luisja, 2nd home is your option, can  be done later if needed for an upgrade
[09:55] <Pr0jectRec0n> Fyodorovna, Cannot paste the o/p - but waht I was looking for - the offending PPA was not present there
[09:55] <simbageoleo> not linux  mint then
[09:55] <newbie|2> lastarms: Just pasted the pic like you said
[09:55] <Fyodorovna> Luisja,err separate home.
[09:55] <Pr0jectRec0n> Fyodorovna, in that grep o/p
[09:55] <Paddy_NI> Is it safe to remove ibus from Ubuntu 14.04?
[09:55] <lastarms> Paddy_NI: ensure you have another input method before you do that
[09:55] <lastarms> newbie|2: pasted where?
[09:56] <Schalla> simbageoleo, from the *Ubuntu versions, XUbuntu will be the best choice, since XFCE is the one with the tiniest resource usage
[09:56] <Schalla> lastarms: Will take a look, thanks
[09:56] <Paddy_NI> lastarms, Oh I don't believe I do
[09:56] <newbie|2> lastarms: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7617257/
[09:56] <lastarms> newbie|2: and I wasn't the one who requested a picture...
[09:56] <Fyodorovna> Pr0jectRec0n, Not sure I believe you analysis of the text from what I have seen so far.
[09:56] <simbageoleo> Schalla, thank you
[09:56] <Fyodorovna> your*
[09:56] <Schalla> There are ofc other distros which may require even less
[09:57] <lastarms> newbie|2: your problem has got to be something to do with a kernel bug with your driver. Try google. I totally can;t help you in regards to alsa and pulse problems...
[09:57] <Fyodorovna> lastarms, The user has gone for awhile
[09:57] <Schalla> for a while = 20 secs before
[09:57] <Schalla> ;p
[09:57] <Paddy_NI> lastarms, I have had this issue with Lubuntu on a laptop and now with Ubuntu on the tower.  It seems that even with my Region and Keyboard set to English UK I am getting the US layout
[09:57] <Paddy_NI> lastarms, I have made no modifications other than to update it and install the restricted extra
[09:57] <Paddy_NI> *extras
[09:57] <lastarms> Paddy_NI: I think that can be easily fixed with a command
[09:58] <lastarms> Paddy_NI: try googling ubuntu keyboard layout or something
[09:58] <Paddy_NI> loadkeymap or something
[09:58] <Paddy_NI> okay cheers :-)
[09:58] <lastarms> Fyodorovna: well, I said what I wanted to, if he didn't hear it, not my problem. And I was going to tell him I can't help anyway
[09:58] <Luisja> Fyodorovna: So the end result would look like this: W8 partition with OS (70GB ntfs), Xubuntu Root (20GB ext4), Storage (350GB ntfs), Swap (x2Ram Swap), Home (30 GB Ext4), is this good?
[09:58] <lastarms> Schalla: hehe
[09:59] <simbageoleo> i am hopeing that this install wont give me the prefix error
[09:59] <lastarms> Luisja: if you have spare, try getting a bigger root
[09:59] <lastarms> Luisja: it will help a lot when you need to upgrade to a newer OS after you have a lot of programs installed
[09:59] <Fyodorovna> Luisja, If that is what you want sure.
[09:59] <Luisja> lastarms: bigger? how much?
[10:00] <simbageoleo> how do i format a disc on lubuntu please
[10:00] <Fyodorovna> Luisja, Personally I never have a separate home, but I don't upgrade releases, I fresh install
[10:00] <lastarms> Luisja: I would think around 32GB. But it's up to you
[10:00] <tech2> Hi all, I'm writing a juju charm and when a relation triggers, how do I determine the IP address of the remote machine the other service is on?
[10:00] <Luisja> thanks both for you help !
[10:01] <lastarms> tech2: arp -a?
[10:01] <lastarms> tech2: not sure what your requirement is, but arp will tell you about other machines in the same segment
[10:02]  * Fyodorovna watches Yanni on PBS and and goes mmmm pseudo middle eastern music
[10:02] <tech2> lastarms: I have a multi-master database setup, with replication. When a link is formed between the two via a relation in juju, how does the juju hook script know what each end's IP addresses are (or do I need to carry that around as local configuration info?)
[10:03] <kDycuLaptop> okay so, I'm still stuck with this problem from yesterday, hoping a different set of eyes will have more insight.
[10:03] <lastarms> tech2: I might be wrong, but I think that you should ask that in Juju's forum instead of Ubuntu...
[10:04] <kDycuLaptop> I'm running this GUI program at boot, which crashes out when automatically run
[10:04] <tech2> Fair enough, thanks lastarms
[10:04] <kDycuLaptop> but if I call it manually through the terminal everything is fine
[10:04] <kDycuLaptop> why? and how can I fix that?
[10:05] <lastarms> kDycuLaptop: what is the crash report?
[10:05] <kDycuLaptop> I don't get a crash report unfortunately :/
[10:05] <lastarms> kDycuLaptop: what's the difference in the environment when you auto-run and when you do a manual run?>
[10:06] <Pr0jectRec0n> Fyodorovna, lastarms - guys - I just used the accepted answer from here : http://askubuntu.com/questions/307/how-can-ppas-be-removed and I'm good to go now..
[10:06] <kDycuLaptop> I have no idea what the difference is, it seems pretty much the same to me?
[10:06] <lastarms> Pr0jectRec0n: good for you
[10:06] <kDycuLaptop> it's like the autostart.sh file looks like
[10:06] <kDycuLaptop> cd /root/pinbox/bin
[10:06] <kDycuLaptop> ./run pinbox -bpp 16 -fullscreen
[10:07] <kDycuLaptop> and in order to call it in the terminal
[10:07] <kDycuLaptop> it's just sudo su
[10:07] <kDycuLaptop> and then the other two commands
[10:07] <kDycuLaptop> :/
[10:07] <Fyodorovna> Pr0jectRec0n, So where the ppa's sources.list or sources.list.d
[10:07] <Pr0jectRec0n> Anywya, the issue I faced with upgrade keeping back packages (exactly similar pkgs for me) is asnwered here - and why dist-upgrade would work : http://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade
[10:08] <Pr0jectRec0n> Fyodorovna, read the question I linked - even that OP didn't have them listed under /etc/apt/source.list (or .d) ..
[10:08] <simbageoleo> does anyone here own a windows pc
[10:08] <lastarms> kDycuLaptop: so when you run it manually, u use root
[10:09] <kDycuLaptop> yeah, i spose
[10:09] <Fyodorovna> Pr0jectRec0n, you are confused, no where else would they be.
[10:09] <lastarms> kDycuLaptop: how do you run it automatically?
[10:09] <simbageoleo> or know anyone that has got the dreaded gameover zeus virus
[10:09] <Pr0jectRec0n> Fyodorovna, so - what are you/were youi suggesting..?
[10:09] <kDycuLaptop> uh, I'm not exactly 100% how that works. I have an autostart.sh file in /root/pinbox/scripts that does it
[10:09] <kDycuLaptop> which I assume is linked somewhere else that runs it at start?
[10:10] <lastarms> putting a script in /root/* will not make it run automatically
[10:10] <Fyodorovna> Pr0jectRec0n, That you do not understand is all.
[10:10] <Sven_vB> i'm installing trusty thar. the live session starts working fine, i fill in the installer, it starts to install stuff, i go away do other stuff, and when i come back, my screens show strange colors flickering, sometimes switching to console for a few moments to show messages about nuveau or how it's called (some nvidia driver). i know i managed to fix it somehow some time ago via ssh, but ssh isn't responding at this stage. how can i tell the
[10:10] <Pr0jectRec0n> Fyodorovna, hmm ok
[10:10] <Sven_vB>  installer to use the graphics driver that made the live session work?
[10:10] <lastarms> kDycuLaptop: for autostart script you have to either use cron or place it in init.d
[10:10] <Fyodorovna> Pr0jectRec0n, You fixed it though, so no biggie. ;)
[10:10] <Pr0jectRec0n> Fyodorovna, what was the point of the grep - to prove it wouldn't be there under sources.list or sources.list.d?
[10:11] <lastarms> Sven_vB: did it refuse to install?
[10:11] <karooga> Hi, I'm trying to install package dependencies for doing a build.  I already have some long running processes of applications that I already build on the system.  Is there a risk that I could break the already running applications (that I built)?
[10:11] <Pr0jectRec0n> Fyodorovna, yeah, but something desgined to do that - failed : ppa-purge
[10:11] <Fyodorovna> Pr0jectRec0n, that it would be in either, I just did not trust you ran it or read it right
[10:11] <Pr0jectRec0n> Fyodorovna, hmm
[10:11] <kDycuLaptop> I don't really know what cron is but let me check init.d
[10:12] <lastarms> karooga: depends on what the dependancies are. Although I would think not
[10:12] <Fyodorovna> !cron | kDycuLaptop
[10:12] <kDycuLaptop> hm
[10:12] <lastarms> kDycuLaptop: use cron. if you don't know cron, read up on it. init.d is much more dangerous when you have no idea what cron is
[10:12] <Sven_vB> lastarms, no, install started w/o problems. i checked again and the new host is even replying to ping now, just not to SSH, which might be not installed yet
[10:12] <kDycuLaptop> okay, let me try that.
[10:12] <Fyodorovna> Pr0jectRec0n, Again no biggie, there is a learning curve, we all go through it.
[10:12] <karooga> lastarms: I see that there are upgrades for things such as libstdc etc.
[10:13] <kDycuLaptop> I don't care at all how it works, I just want it to, hahah
[10:13] <simbageoleo> can anyone suggest a iso burning program please
[10:13] <kDycuLaptop> and clearly the "default" way this is set up is not working :p
[10:13] <lastarms> Sven_vB: if it installed  no problem, then just uninstall the noveau. then it would revert to the common linux X driver
[10:13] <Sven_vB> lastarms, with "new host" i mean that it now uses the hostname i set, not "ubuntu", so it probably has rebooted
[10:14] <Sven_vB> lastarms, ok. is there a way to prevent it from installing nuveau in the first place?
[10:14] <lastarms> karooga: then you have to check the logs on what changed in libstdc and whether those changes will break your program...
[10:14] <lastarms> kDycuLaptop: google crontab
[10:14] <lastarms> Sven_vB: I don't think so... you'll have to use an alternate installer or something...
[10:15] <lastarms> simbageoleo: ubuntu comes with one automatically
[10:15] <kDycuLaptop> oh boy this stuff is complicated. so I can make a crontab, which just tells my system to run this program on this display at this specified time, yeah?
[10:15] <simbageoleo> lastarms, oh right lol thanks
[10:15] <lastarms> kDycuLaptop: yeap
[10:15] <kDycuLaptop> complicated.
[10:15] <kDycuLaptop> haha
[10:15] <lastarms> but since you need root for your script
[10:16] <lastarms> kDycuLaptop: use crontab -e when you're root
[10:16] <karooga> lastarms:  Ok.  Would I be correct in understanding that there shouldn't be any changes in interfaces to libraries if there are just package upgrades (not dist upgrade).
[10:16] <kDycuLaptop> gotcha
[10:16] <lastarms> and then google for the command to start a script at boot
[10:16] <kDycuLaptop> and this will run a gui program fine?
[10:16] <lastarms> kDycuLaptop: it should I think
[10:16] <kDycuLaptop> do you know enough about it that if I make my crontab script(? do I call it that?) I can run it by you to see if it's horribly screwy or not? haha
[10:17] <lastarms> karooga: packages upgrades means that there might be code changes including api changes
[10:17] <lastarms> karooga: if an api that you use from a package changes, then your program will fail
[10:17] <lastarms> kDycuLaptop: crontab will only run the script and shouldn't screw up your system
[10:17] <karooga> lastarms: Ok.  So is is possible to install the two versions side by side? or that not a good idea?
[10:18] <kDycuLaptop> okay
[10:18] <Luisja> forgot to ask, is an additional /boot partition really necessary while dual booting_
[10:18] <lastarms> karooga: it's possible, but you will have to reference it in your program
[10:18] <Paddy_NI> Luisja, no
[10:18] <lastarms> Luisja: nope, people use a /boot partition to ensure that they didn't screw up /boot when they screw up /
[10:19] <simbageoleo> do i extract the iso the the cd
[10:19] <karooga> lastarms: Ok, that sounds more pain that just rebuilding my apps.  Thanks for the help.  Gonna just upgrade, hide under my blanket and see if ppl start screaming. :-)
[10:19] <lastarms> karooga: let's hope not haha
[10:19] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, No, just use imgburn
[10:20] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, http://www.imgburn.com/
[10:20] <lastarms> kDycuLaptop: btw, when you reply, try including the person's name. it helps a lot
[10:20] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, I am assuming you are using windows right now?
[10:20] <kDycuLaptop> lastarms, okay doke, can do.
[10:21] <simbageoleo> how do i use the terminalk to download it please
[10:22] <lastarms> simbageoleo: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:22] <lastarms> ubuntu should come with an iso burner
[10:22] <simbageoleo> lubuntu
[10:22] <lastarms> you just have to double click your iso, or right click it
[10:22] <lastarms> it should give you an option to burn the iso
[10:22] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, lubuntu should have it's own tool for buring iso
[10:22] <Paddy_NI> xfburn I think
[10:25] <Paddy_NI> Actually according to the Lord our Google xfburn is a bit messy when dealing with iso files.  simbageoleo how about just installing "brasero" and using that instead
[10:25] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, Why must you use the terminal to download ubuntu?
[10:25] <lastarms> btw, anyone here uses irssi?
[10:26] <Paddy_NI> lastarms, On and off, I still prefer xchat
[10:26] <simbageoleo> Paddy_NI, i have no idea on this stuff i have always had windows but hate them and all they stand for
[10:26] <Paddy_NI> I am sure irssi mops the floor with it but I still like it
[10:27] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, What are you trying to achieve?
[10:28] <simbageoleo> Paddy_NI, well i atm have lubuntu but want xubuntu as this install had a prefix error plus cant get wireless working
[10:28] <simbageoleo> yes i installed it with the wubi installer
[10:29]  * simbageoleo spanks self
[10:29] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, I have no idea what the "prefix" error is and I am not sure if xubuntu will solve your wifi problem
[10:29] <lastarms> Paddy_NI: I was hoping someone who knows about irssi could actually tell me how I can list the windows that I have
[10:29] <Paddy_NI> lastarms, How about #irssi
[10:29] <lastarms> oh right
[10:29] <Paddy_NI> :-)
[10:30] <lastarms> hehe... after being here for so long I forgot that usually those channels exists
[10:30] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, What spec is your computer?  Are you trying to stick to lightweight desktops?
[10:31] <Paddy_NI> lastarms, That happens to me all the time :-)
[10:32] <simbageoleo> noob question how do i boot into xubuntu from lubuntu please
[10:32] <Paddy_NI> lastarms, If I could take time and figure out how to use "screen + irssi" properly I would probably switch full time
[10:33] <simbageoleo> from a disc
[10:33] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, You cannot boot into xubuntu from lubuntu
[10:33] <lastarms> Paddy_NI: I use tmux, although screen is as easy. Just open it, and then leave it open. exit using ctrl a + d
[10:33] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, Have you downloaded and burned the iso?
[10:33] <simbageoleo> Paddy_NI, yes i have
[10:33] <Paddy_NI> lastarms, I will have to come back to you on that later :-)
[10:34] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, Okay do you know how to set your boot order in the bios of your pc?
[10:34] <simbageoleo> Paddy_NI, yes i do and have done that
[10:35] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, then have you put the cd in the tray and reboot your computer ?
[10:35] <hagbard__> i have problem with installation of gtk on ubuntu.someone can help me?
[10:35] <Paddy_NI> hagbard__, gtk?
[10:35] <Paddy_NI> hagbard__, For development or do you mean Gnome?
[10:35] <simbageoleo> Paddy_NI, it boots straight into this even tho i set the cd as boot option 1
[10:36] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, Hmm.. have you tried the cd on another computer?
[10:36] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, Also have your read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD
[10:36] <hagbard__> for developpement
[10:36] <Paddy_NI> *you
[10:36] <simbageoleo> Paddy_NI,  yes it works fine i have checked the files and they appear to be all there
[10:37] <hagbard__> i get problem when I install pango
[10:37] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, It boots on another system?
[10:37] <Paddy_NI> hagbard__, I am in unfamiliar territory with this sorry I hope someone else can help
[10:39] <simbageoleo> Paddy_NI, yes it does
[10:39] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, How did you burn the iso?
[10:39] <Paddy_NI> I am curious because only a very short time ago you where asking how to burn it?
[10:40] <simbageoleo> Paddy_NI, using xfburn
[10:40] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, Are you currently using the computer you wish to boot the cd from?
[10:40] <Paddy_NI> Do chat on irc that is
[10:40] <simbageoleo> Paddy_NI, yes i am
[10:41] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, Reboot and try the cd again
[10:41] <simbageoleo> ok
[10:41] <Paddy_NI> :-)
[10:45] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, Any success?
[10:45] <simbageoleo> Paddy_NI, nope
[10:46] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, how old is your computer?
[10:46] <mark06_away> what's a nice and easy gui tool for taking snapshots of disk partitions for possibly restoring them later? I want to make backups of my ubuntu installation for further use in case it gets messed up
[10:47] <Paddy_NI> mark06_away, clonezilla is pretty good
[10:47] <simbageoleo> Paddy_NI, when i select cd it flashes up for a sec then goes back to the boot screen its a packard bell e2310
[10:48] <Paddy_NI> mark06_away, I am sure there are hundreds of alternative methods. That all depend on what way you wish to do it
[10:48] <kDycuLaptop> lastarms, okay so I have my root crontab using the @reboot instead of a specific timing, and it's still crashing out.
[10:48] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, Try downloading and burning another fresh iso
[10:48] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, And use brasero this time
[10:49] <Paddy_NI> simbageoleo, Basically once brasero is installed you would open the iso with it and burn it
[10:49] <mark06_away> Paddy_NI: I wanna do what I said, that's it... backups of ubuntu installation I can restore if I feel like it's messed
[10:50] <mark06_away> Paddy_NI: it'd be convenient if I could use the program on windows... no need to boot a live cd or something.... because on windows, ubuntu partitions are not in use
[10:50] <Paddy_NI> mark06_away, Clonezilla is probably going to be your best option. I will have a quick google
[10:51] <Paddy_NI> mark06_away, Not sure if it can clone a partition from the same disk whilst it is in use
[10:51] <Paddy_NI> mark06_away, This is just of the top of my head
[10:52] <lastarms> kDycuLaptop: are you using root?
[10:52] <mark06_away> ok, I'm going through their webpage, thanks for the suggestion anyway
[10:52] <Paddy_NI> mark06_away, This is a good guide for http://www.howtoforge.com/back-up-restore-hard-drives-and-partitions-with-clonezilla-live
[10:52] <lastarms> kDycuLaptop: As in, are you using sudo crontab -e ?
[10:52] <kDycuLaptop> to edit the crontab, yeah
[10:52] <kDycuLaptop> yes
[10:52] <kDycuLaptop> er lastarms yeah, I am
[10:52] <lastarms> hrmmm...
[10:52] <lastarms> I don't know why then...
[10:52] <Paddy_NI> gotta talk to the gardener just a sec
[10:52] <kDycuLaptop> well crud
[10:52] <lastarms> unless, it might be waiting for something to load before it can run
[10:53] <lastarms> maybe try adding a delay in your script?
[10:53] <kDycuLaptop> how do I do that?
[10:53] <lastarms> delay it for ~1 min before running
[10:53] <lastarms> bash script?
[10:53] <kDycuLaptop> yeah
[10:53] <lastarms> sleep 1m
[10:53] <lastarms> that will make it sleep for 1 min
[10:53] <lastarms> or sleep 30 for 30 sec
[10:53] <kDycuLaptop> kk I'll try that
[10:54] <lastarms> good luck
[10:54] <lastarms> I'm logging off soon
[10:54] <teuku> test
[10:54] <hagbard__> I begin malware analysis and i want malware can you give me someone
[10:55] <kDycuLaptop> lastarms, thanks for all your help thus far, I appreciate it!
[10:55] <lastarms> kDycuLaptop: no problem!
[10:58] <E3MyBodyIsReady> hagbard__: Try #security
[10:58] <hagbard__> ok thank
[11:00] <kDycuLaptop> lastarms, no go on the 1m sleep :/
[11:05] <simbageoleo> still nothing
[11:06] <Taueres> hey to all. I want to install Protégé software on Ubuntu
[11:07] <Taueres> Is there any package in the repository?
[11:08] <gustavo9> #kernelnewbies
[11:10] <nikitosiusis> hi
[11:10] <nikitosiusis> I've updated something on my ubuntu 14.04 and now my speakers don't turn off when I plug in headphones. How to fix that?:)
[11:12] <simbageoleo> how do i use smartbootmanager with lubuntu
[11:13] <histo> nikitosiusis: check in sound options if jacksense is checked
[11:13] <histo> !info protege
[11:14] <nikitosiusis> histo, I can't find this option in sound options(
[11:15] <histo> nikitosiusis: or you can try alsamixer in a terminal and start ticking the checkboxes
[11:15] <histo> or unmuting
[11:16] <nikitosiusis> I tried gnome-alsamixer. When I check auto-mute nothing happens and in console there is "** (gnome-alsamixer:4792): WARNING **: gam_toggle_set_state (). No idea what to do for mixer element "Auto-Mute Mode"!"
[11:18] <histo> nikitosiusis: try unmuting some of the spdif channels
[11:18] <histo> nikitosiusis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ALSA/JackSense
[11:18] <nikitosiusis> I have sound from both headphones and speakers now, how unmuting something else can help?
[11:18] <nikitosiusis> seeems upgrade brought some broken modules and this feature is broken on my setup now
[11:19] <nikitosiusis> I just can't figure what package does this
[11:19] <histo> nikitosiusis: it's probably just a setting umuting one of the spdif's or whatever usually re-enables jacksense
[11:21] <nikitosiusis> well I tried all ticks there and nothing changes anything(
[11:22] <histo> nikitosiusis: you can try #also or the forums or askubuntu
[11:23] <nikitosiusis> Can you tell me what package could be upgraded and lead to this? Something with alsa?
[11:23] <histo> nikitosiusis: most likely
[11:24] <nikitosiusis> only gstreamer1.0-alsa was updated(
[11:24] <histo> nikitosiusis: that shouldn't do it any other "sound" packages ?
[11:26] <nikitosiusis> histo, http://pastebin.com/a4F2K2WM it will be very difficult to find :)
[11:27] <histo> nikitosiusis: I'm not seeing anything looks like just codecs
[11:28] <e^0> any ubuntu users running awesome wm ?
[11:28] <nikitosiusis> I tried old kernel already, no more ideas(
[11:28] <histo> e^0: I have in the past
[11:28] <e^0> hi histo ;)
[11:28] <histo> nikitosiusis: I gave you my ideas
[11:29] <e^0> histo: does it work out of the box or it needs some fixing ? currently i am on gentoo and want  to use awesoem 3.5.5 on ubuntu
[11:29] <histo> e^0: yes it works oob
[11:29] <histo> e^0: I went to it for a bit when I strayed from i3 for awhile. However, now i'm happily back with i3
[11:30] <e^0> histo: ok :)
[11:30] <histo> gentoo > ubuntu interesting....
[11:31] <e^0> histo: why interesting ?
[11:31] <nikitosiusis> gonna downgrade unity then(
[11:31] <e^0> histo: mostly people migrate from ubuntu-> gentoo that's why :P
[11:31] <histo> e^0: just odd.
[11:31] <histo> nikitosiusis: unity has nothing to do with your sound system
[11:31] <nikitosiusis> same as other packages:)
[11:31] <histo> nikitosiusis: try in the forums or askubuntu or in #alsa  perhaps you will find your answer
[11:32] <e^0> histo: because  some thing's doesnt support in gentoo out of the box, there are lot's of fixes to be done which i don't like, it's like waste of time.
[11:32] <e^0> the best example is can't run docker under gentoo hardened + zfs :(
[11:33] <MaxFrames> hello
[11:33] <e^0> tried a complete day but no result, atlast the responsible gentoo dev tol still the fix is yet to  be found :(
[11:34] <e^0> histo: so now i have to use ubuntu.
[11:37] <histo> e^0: don't have to but... I understand what you are saying.
[11:38] <e^0> histo: just to have docker under gentoo i had waited more than 3 months, that's like the test of patience for me :/
[11:38] <wadie> I have a shell script that I have executed,but I don't know how to pin that script to the taskbar ?
[11:38] <wadie> In other words: how to pin a shell script to the taskbar ?
[11:40] <histo> e^0: lol I heard you time vs. reward
[11:40] <histo> s/heard/hear/
[11:41] <e^0> hmmm
[11:43] <histo> e^0: I couldn't handle emerging myself.
[11:44] <histo> e^0: too much time wasted
[11:45] <nikitosiusis> I've reverted everything and nothing helped:)
[11:45] <kDycuLaptop> what am I looking to do when I want to set up a program name to have like... an alias?
[11:45] <histo> kDycuLaptop: setup a program name where?
[11:45] <e^0> histo: apart from that my concern recently was due to high I/O as i am using KDE+awesome the disk failure probability was great for old HDD
[11:45] <kDycuLaptop> like right now I run this program by navigating to it's director
[11:45] <e^0> s/great/high
[11:46] <kDycuLaptop> *directory and typing
[11:46] <kDycuLaptop> "./run pinbox blah blah"
[11:46] <histo> kDycuLaptop: add the directory to your path
[11:46] <histo> kDycuLaptop: then you can just type pinbox blah blah.
[11:46] <kDycuLaptop> histo, okay thanks :]
[11:46] <histo> kDycuLaptop: or in your ~/.bashrc  add an alias
[11:47] <histo> kDycuLaptop: add soemthing like alias pb='/whatever/some/place/pinbox blah blah'
[11:48] <kDycuLaptop> histo, in the bashrc file?
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> how can i add 4 ubuntu iso's in multibootusb tool?
[11:49] <histo> kDycuLaptop: yes
[11:50] <histo> lotuspsychje: use YUMI
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> !info yumi
[11:50] <histo> lotuspsychje: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> histo: lemme lookup tnx
[11:50] <kDycuLaptop> histo, so the line looks like alias pinbox='/root/pinbox/bin/pinbox' ??
[11:51] <histo> kDycuLaptop: yes but you won't have access to /root as a regular user
[11:51] <kDycuLaptop> oh. what do I do then?
[11:52] <histo> kDycuLaptop: put the script or program somewhere more sane
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> histo: installing, looks promising tnx
[11:53] <kDycuLaptop> histo, can I do that after it's installed?
[11:53] <simbageoleo> how do i enable wireless on my belkin card
[11:54] <histo> kDycuLaptop: is it a script or a binary?
[11:54] <kDycuLaptop> histo, the program I working with comes installed with this specific distribution as a all-in-one solution type of deal
[11:54] <histo> kDycuLaptop: What distro are you running?
[11:55] <histo> kDycuLaptop: is this pinball stuff?
[11:55] <kDycuLaptop> histo, it started as lubuntu 10.04 which I have since upgraded to... uh what's the current ver number? haha
[11:55] <kDycuLaptop> histo, uh. yes. how'd you know?
[11:55] <histo> google
[11:56] <kDycuLaptop> histo, it's been a constant headache for the last three weeks of my life trying to get this running :/
[11:56] <histo> kDycuLaptop: you can move the scripts to /usr/local/bin if you want
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> histo: is there a password for yumi, it says root pass is wrong?
[11:56] <histo> kDycuLaptop: or use .bashrc alias those are your options
[11:56] <histo> lotuspsychje: no should be your sudo password.  if not try launching it with gksu yumi  or whatever.
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> histo: kk
[11:57] <kDycuLaptop> histo, just move the whole /root/pinbox/scripts folder to /usr/local/bin, and that should work?
[11:58] <kDycuLaptop> or the /root/pinbox/bin folder?
[11:58] <histo> kDycuLaptop: idk what else is in pinbox directory?
[11:58] <histo> kDycuLaptop: just make an alias and move the pinbox directory your users home
[11:59] <guest-Fmcz0g> mame maodo né
[11:59] <histo> guest-Fmcz0g: english?
[11:59] <kDycuLaptop> histo: the whole pinbox directory into my home?
[12:00] <histo> kDycuLaptop: yes
[12:00] <histo> kDycuLaptop: why did you put it in root in the first place?
[12:01] <kDycuLaptop> histo, it installs there automatically
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> histo: can only find YUMI gui, doesnt wanna gksudo yumi
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> histo: paclage not found
[12:01] <kDycuLaptop> histo, trust me, if I had a choice during the install I'd put it somewhere *not* there :p
[12:02] <histo> kDycuLaptop: do you run the program as a regular user or as root?
[12:04] <kDycuLaptop> histo, well, in order to get to the program directory, I have to be a root user, so yeah I have to run it as root
[12:05] <rhqq> hello. is there a way to disable editor select menu while editing ie crontab for the first time?
[12:05] <rhqq> globally
[12:05] <histo> kDycuLaptop: well you could try adding an alias to your .bashrc of alias sudo='sudo '   then also add your alias pinbox='/root/bin/pinbox'  that should allow you to run sudo with an alias from your users .bashrc and may work as root
[12:05] <histo> rhqq: set your default editor first
[12:06] <rhqq> it's already set
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> !info gambas3
[12:06] <histo> rhqq: run select-editor first?
[12:07] <rhqq> i want to avoid having .selected_editor file and avoid having that prompt at all.
[12:07] <rhqq> plus it's auto-configured setup
[12:07] <rhqq> so i want to avoid running select-editor
[12:07] <histo> rhqq: hrm..
[12:07] <Wobbo> I am looking for a tool to retrieve. All not necessary spaces and carriage returns out in HTML, JavaScripts and CSS. Alle for a smartphone site. As with jQuery min stuff. Any tips?
[12:07] <rhqq> i have dumb users setting up emacs
[12:08] <histo> rhqq: can you set their EDITOR environment variable?
[12:08] <rhqq> yes, but it doesnt change a thing
[12:08] <histo> rhqq: it should
[12:09] <histo> rhqq: it will override their selected_editor
[12:09] <rhqq> ha, weird
[12:10] <rhqq> normal user -> editor set, crontab -e  = works
[12:10] <rhqq> root user -> editor set, crontab -e = works
[12:10] <rhqq> normal user -> editor set (globally in /etc/bash.bashrc), sudo crontab -e = picker
[12:11] <histo> rhqq: is /etc/profile sourcing the global bashrc ?
[12:12] <rhqq> it's by default
[12:12] <rhqq> hm, unless
[12:12] <rhqq> sudo crontab -e doesn't do the initial
[12:13] <rhqq> bingo
[12:13] <rhqq> sudo bash -c 'echo $EDITOR'   returns empty
[12:14] <rhqq> histo: thanks for letting me think aloud ;)
[12:18] <Donnylad> hi ppl
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> histo: cant get yumi to work, with gksudo
[12:20] <histo> lotuspsychje: okay well then when it asks just enter your sudo passowrd
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> histo: says its wrong
[12:21] <histo> lotuspsychje: is your caps lock on?
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> histo: no, didnt do anything unusual
[12:21] <histo> lotuspsychje: why can't you run it with gksu ?
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> histo: it never starts
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> histo: when i type yumi without gksudo it says package not found
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> histo: it has other name maybe?
[12:22] <etronik> Hi all, need your help w/ stuck boot on acpi.. changed my HD to another laptop case, exactly same model (with slightly faster CPU).
[12:22] <histo> lotuspsychje: yes perhaps. dpkg -L yumi
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> histo: tryed yumi-gtk but no luck
[12:23] <histo> lotuspsychje: or dpkg -l | grep yumi    to see what the package name is then dpkg -L packagename  to see what files it installed.
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> histo: /usr/share/applications/yumi.desktop
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> histo: doesnt work, ill try later tnx
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[12:24] <etronik> I have already tried the acpi=off in grub, but result is worse as boot doesn't even seem to begin...
[12:27] <histo> etronik: does it also hang in the other laptop?
[12:27] <etronik> histo: no, on the other laptop it booted just fine
[12:28] <histo> etronik: bios settings different?
[12:29] <etronik> histo: well possibly and possibly even different versions of BIOS, but I can't check settings as... video card on the old one is gone !!
[12:30] <etronik> histo: I have disabled everything resembling "legacy USB" support - as I've read on some posts
[12:30] <histo> etronik: that's odd... I believe there are other acpi flags you can try passing besides off as well.
[12:31] <etronik> yeah the noapic or nolapic
[12:31] <etronik> but... as I change that in grub, pressing ctrl+x - it immediately gets stuck, while without that it seems to go on a bit then after a while get stuck
[12:31] <g105b> How do I map a network drive in Ubuntu so that the files are available offline?
[12:32] <histo> etronik: memtest
[12:32] <etronik> hmm really ?
[12:32] <histo> g105b: you don't
[12:32] <g105b> histo: it's so easy in Windows, works flawlessly.
[12:32] <histo> g105b: you'd have to have a local copy of the files for it to be availible offline
[12:33] <etronik> well, I'll give it a go
[12:33] <histo> g105b: I'd love to see that work.
[12:33] <g105b> histo: obviously there is a local copy involved, but it is abstracted by the "make available offline" checkbox.
[12:33] <histo> etronik: I'd suspect that or powersupply from what you are saying.
[12:33] <etronik> g105b: that's two features of windows - 1. map net drive  and 2. make network srive available offline (basically a copy)
[12:34] <etronik> histo: power supply !?
[12:34] <histo> g105b: so just rsync the network'd version
[12:34] <g105b> etronik: yep, how do I do that in Ubuntu?
[12:34] <histo> etronik: well not in your case due to it being a laptop
[12:34] <histo> g105b: rsync
[12:36] <etronik> g105b: first things first - can you mount a network drive ? start with that first
[12:36] <g105b> etronik: yeah, mounted right now.
[12:36] <cephalopod> hey all...
[12:36] <histo> g105b: or bittorrentsync although closed source.
[12:37] <g105b> histo: Crashes in Ubuntu 14.04
[12:37] <histo> g105b: rsync?
[12:37] <g105b> histo: no, bittorrentsync.
[12:37] <histo> g105b: ahh well give rsync a go
[12:37] <etronik> g105b: ok, now you just need a way to sync betweek the network drive and some location on your PC to hold the "offline copy"
[12:37] <dey> rsync rocks
[12:38] <g105b> histo: thanks, will look into automating it.
[12:38] <etronik> g105b: try searching GUI for that
[12:38] <etronik> try this:
[12:38] <etronik> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-August/120702.html
[12:38] <histo> g105b: rsync -a /somedirectory /someotherdirectory
[12:38] <etronik> or start from there
[12:38] <cephalopod> minor issue: left my laptop on suspend over the weekend and the battery ran out of juice... now when I try and boot in recovery mode I get::
[12:38] <etronik> histo: my guess g105b want a GUI front-end to rsync
[12:39] <histo> !info grsync | g105b
[12:39] <etronik> ok, off to memtest though I think it must be fine
[12:39] <histo> etronik: is video drifferent between the two?
[12:39] <cephalopod> "can't open /dev/mapper/mint-vg-root" after I see a "cryptsetup successful"
[12:39] <etronik> histo: any more ideias besides memtest ? I'm almost sure it ain't it
[12:40] <etronik> histo: no, video is the same
[12:40] <histo> etronik: I would assume it's hardware then if it works fine in an identical machine.
[12:40] <cephalopod> also tried to use a live-disk and choose 'upgrade' but it doesn't wan't to let me as the hdd isn't mounting / is returning a "didn't unmount" type of error
[12:41] <histo> cephalopod: are you running mint?
[12:41] <g105b> Thanks histo, etronik.
[12:41] <etronik> histo: I have ran the diagnostics on the board and it seems fine - with this new laptop "case" and it's original HD, I did install and run Ubuntu so it's can't be hardware
[12:42] <Donnylad> need a bit of help guys how do i update my adobe flash
[12:42] <alw> identify dx3lam
[12:42] <etronik> I just brought the HD from the old case into the new case
[12:42] <OerHeks> alw time to change your password
[12:42] <histo> etronik: then what hw wise is different between the two?
[12:43] <histo> Donnylad: how'd you install it?
[12:43] <histo> lol alw
[12:43] <etronik> histo: I think the CPU, before was 1.8 Ghz now is 2.0 Ghz same Intel Duo Core stuff
[12:44] <histo> etronik: It has to be hardware then
[12:44] <svip> I have a /tmp directory I cannot ls (it just hangs), so during boot, the system hangs on "Cleaning temporary files..."
[12:44] <histo> etronik: unless bios like you say
[12:44] <kDycuLaptop> so okay. I've moved my pinbox application to a more sane directory and it seems to run fine... except it *still* crashes if I try and have cron autolaunch it at startup
[12:44] <svip> Which means I cannot boot.
[12:44] <etronik> histo: so... what do you suggest ?
[12:44] <Donnylad> histo, i dint install it i just been to the software center and it was already installed but its not the latest Version
[12:44] <histo> etronik: see if the bioses match
[12:44] <svip> Anyone has a suggestion how to fix my /tmp directory so it can be written and read from again?
[12:44] <kDycuLaptop> but it still runs perfectly fine when launched from the command line
[12:45] <bazhang> svip, on debian?
[12:45] <etronik> histo: then I'm stuck as both the video card and monitor on the old one are broken
[12:45] <histo> Donnylad: upgrade your packages then
[12:45] <svip> bazhang: Yes.
[12:45] <histo> Donnylad: or do you mean the latest from adobe?
[12:45] <bazhang> svip, keep it in #debian , dont cross post here
[12:45] <svip> Ah well, no one knows then.
[12:45] <histo> kDycuLaptop: what more 'sane' directory did you move it to?
[12:47] <Donnylad> histo, am on the adobe site and it has APT for Ubuntu 10.04+ but when i go to download it comes up with launch application with no applications in it
[12:47] <histo> svip: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=107655
[12:47] <histo> Donnylad: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[12:48] <Donnylad> histo, 14.04
[12:48] <kDycuLaptop> histo: it's currently in /home/pinbox/pinbox/
[12:48] <OerHeks> !info flashplugin-installer
[12:48] <cephalopod> yes
[12:48] <cephalopod> was hoping to switch back to ubuntu
[12:48] <histo> Donnylad: what version of flash are you trying to install?
[12:48] <histo> kDycuLaptop: what users cron are you using?
[12:48] <Obhur> hey guys, i installed mac ubuntu on a USB stick, but i does not work on a mac, what should i do?
[12:49] <histo> !mac | Obhur
[12:49] <Donnylad> histo, the latest to run facebook games
[12:49] <cephalopod> trying to repair with mint atm
[12:49] <kDycuLaptop> histo, root
[12:49] <histo> Donnylad: Why do you think you have an older version?
[12:49] <OerHeks> Donnylad, the adobve site gives the same Version <IP_ADDRESS>9
[12:50] <cephalopod> wish I'd backed up last week
[12:50] <histo> kDycuLaptop: then why did you move it to a users home?  I'm so confused.....
[12:50] <histo> kDycuLaptop: what is in your crontab vs. what are you typing?
[12:50] <Obhur> histo: i read this, and followed it to the word several times, it still does not show the USB on booting
[12:50] <Donnylad> histo, because when i try run a game in facebook its asking to update adobe flash
[12:51] <cephalopod> I also get (in non-recovery startup) "cryptsetup:evms_activate is not available"
[12:51] <cephalopod> I take it this is a bad sign?
[12:51] <histo> Donnylad: apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[12:51] <Obhur> histo: also my firmware does not have an Ubuntu version, my firmware is 8,1
[12:51] <Obhur> histo: i think the problem is that ubuntu is running BIOS and mac is running EFI
[12:52] <histo> Obhur: try in #ubuntu-mactel
[12:52] <Obhur> histo: thanks i will
[12:52] <kDycuLaptop> histo, uh, I didn't know there was a difference really.
[12:53] <Obhur> histo: there is no one in the channel
[12:53] <kDycuLaptop> histo, relatively inexperienced with linux, probably somewhat obviously so
[12:53] <histo> kDycuLaptop: sudo crontab -l    and pastebin the output
[12:53] <histo> !paste | kDycuLaptop
[12:54] <histo> kDycuLaptop: also put in that pastebin the command you are typing to run the program
[12:54] <rhqq> hist: problem persists even with setting/exporting EDITOR in /etc/profile
[12:55] <histo> rhqq: that's weird... I'm at a loss.
[12:55] <svip> histo: Thank you.  But I also found that thread; his issue seems to be a badly configured fstab and too little disk space.  I have none of these issues.  Moreover, I did an fsck on my system and it works fine.
[12:55] <kDycuLaptop> histo: pastebin.com/JHV8Kz7D
[12:56] <kDycuLaptop> oh shit I didn't see that last bit about the command line
[12:56] <Obhur> histo: are you sure it is the correct channel?
[12:56] <svip> histo: My own suggestion is to delete the tmp-directory and create a new one.
[12:56] <histo> Obhur: I don't know if there is another ubuntu mac channel. There is a ubuntu mac team you can find on help.ubuntu.com  see what is there.
[12:56] <svip> histo: But I don't know if that is wise.
[12:57] <histo> svip: why don't you manually remove the directory that is the problem?
[12:57] <Obhur> histo: thanks
[12:57] <kDycuLaptop> histo, pastebin.com/mTqASqfb
[12:57] <svip> histo: Hmm, it would appear I cannot.
[12:58] <histo> kDycuLaptop: do you see the difference there? you are calling automount.py in crontab and you typed autostart.sh  in your command line...  Also do you realize how often that will run in crontab?
[12:58] <Donnylad> histo, still getting FarmVille 2 is here and it's in 3D!
[12:58] <Donnylad> To play you'll need to upgrade your Adobe Flash Player.
[12:59] <histo> Donnylad: you have the most recent version of flash installed
[12:59] <histo> Donnylad: you could try the open source flash plugin and see if it works there.
[12:59] <rhqq> histo: i found the issue - it's ubuntus lack of /etc/bashrc file that is called when bash is ran in interactive mode
[12:59] <Donnylad> i ran the apt-get that you sent and it did say i have
[13:00] <histo> rhqq: ughh
[13:00] <rhqq> it has only /etc/bash.bashrc
[13:00] <kDycuLaptop> histo, I didn't put automount.py there though
[13:00] <histo> kDycuLaptop: well it's there. now.
[13:00] <histo> kDycuLaptop: compare sudo crontab -l to  just  crontab -l    the one with sudo is root's crontab the regular is just your users.
[13:01] <kDycuLaptop> histo, there is no crontab for pinbox
[13:02] <histo> kDycuLaptop: K well someone or the script put that automount.py there.  Which will run every minute
[13:02] <kDycuLaptop> histo, is that a bad thing?
[13:02] <histo> kDycuLaptop: What is the current issue then?
[13:02] <kDycuLaptop> histo, it does attempt to boot on startup but crashes out
[13:03] <histo> kDycuLaptop: I have no idea what that script does or why it would need to run every minute.
[13:03] <kDycuLaptop> histo, it only works if I launch it from the cli
[13:03] <histo> kDycuLaptop: What only works if you launch what from the cli? They are two different commands.
[13:04] <kDycuLaptop> histo, the command to launch pinbox only works if I do it from the CLI
[13:04] <histo> kDycuLaptop: What is pinbox and what do you mean by launching it?
[13:05] <histo> kDycuLaptop: is it some kind of interactive application? or just sits in the background doing it's thing?
[13:05] <kDycuLaptop> histo, pinbox is the game/emulator that I am have trouble running at startup. by launching it, I mean by typing the ./run pinbox -bpp 16 -fullscreen command to start the program
[13:05] <kDycuLaptop> it's interactive with the actual real life pinball machine it's hooked up to
[13:05] <histo> kDycuLaptop: Why are you trying to call it with cron?
[13:06] <kDycuLaptop> histo, cause someone else told me that was the way to call GUI apps on startup
[13:06] <histo> kDycuLaptop: Does the application need X to run?
[13:06] <kDycuLaptop> histo, no it doesn't, it can be run without a graphical environment
[13:07] <TeraJL> hi there, i know i can control the volume per app, but is there any way to switch the output per app? (i have 2 outputs, the bluetooth speaker and laptop speaker)
[13:07] <histo> kDycuLaptop: okay well remove whatever garbage you put in root's crontab and then call the app at the bottom of /etc/rc.local
[13:07] <svip> hesto: I think I might have figured it out: There are apparently so many files in /tmp that it takes ages just to ls.
[13:08] <histo> svip: you can delete them all. They are normally removed on reboot anyhow.
[13:08] <svip> Yes, I was just OVERWHELMED by the amount of files (and so apparently was the system), I ran rm -vr tmp/* 5 minutes ago; no output yet.
[13:10] <ldiamond> Why can't I see dd progress when do kill - usr1 in 14.04
[13:10] <kDycuLaptop> histo, okay I did that and rebooted and it still crashed out.
[13:10] <histo> svip: what all is writing there?
[13:10] <histo> ldiamond: you should be able to
[13:10] <histo> kDycuLaptop: what crashed out?
[13:10] <histo> and what does crashing out mean? I can't see your screen.
[13:10] <svip> histo: Some files named sess_NUMBER
[13:11] <Obhur> histo: i think i found the problem
[13:12] <kDycuLaptop> histo, the pinbox program I'm trying to get to run properly at startup. it gives me a black screen for a few seconds and then returns to the GUI
[13:12] <histo> kDycuLaptop: what GUI do you have starting on boot?
[13:12] <kDycuLaptop> histo, XFCE-4
[13:13] <Obhur> histo: i have an Intel Core i7 processor, i think Ubuntu does not support it, only AMD64 right?
[13:13] <histo> kDycuLaptop: do you have the user auto logging in to xfce4?
[13:13] <kDycuLaptop> histo, sure do.
[13:13] <guerard> sexe
[13:14] <E3MyBodyIsReady> Obhur: No, it supports it. AMD developed x86-64 first, so their name gets thrown around
[13:14] <histo> kDycuLaptop: Application Menu > Settings > Settings Manager and choose Session and Startup click the tab Applicaiton Autostart and you can add a program to autostart
[13:14] <E3MyBodyIsReady> Intel adopted AMD's instruction set this time around
[13:15] <histo> kDycuLaptop: you can remove the stuff from rc.local now... that I understand what you are trying to accomplish
[13:15] <Obhur> E3MyBodyIsReady: hmmm, ok. back to research then :-)
[13:15] <timkofu> is anyone else unable to install anthing right now?
[13:16] <timkofu> it seems all ubuntu repos are resolving to ipv6 addresses that dont work
[13:16] <kDycuLaptop> histo, pinbox does not show up in that list, is there a way to get it to do so?
[13:17] <histo> timkofu: nope works fine here.
[13:17] <histo> kDycuLaptop: click add then add an entry for pinbox with your command that you type at the terminal to get it to launch.
[13:17] <histo> kDycuLaptop: Are you using sudo at the command line to launch it?
[13:18] <kDycuLaptop> histo, not when it's in my home directory as I have it now
[13:18] <histo> timkofu: in US with no ipv6 trickery here.
[13:18] <histo> kDycuLaptop: K then just type the /home/pinbox/pinbox... whatever as the command to run
[13:19] <kDycuLaptop> histo, my startup application manager seems to be located in a program called desktop session settings, where it doesn't have an option to add a line :/
[13:20] <histo> kDycuLaptop: what version of ubuntu are you running?