[00:00] <chubboes> sacrelicious: just saying since I had ubuntu 1 week I reinstalled the whole thing like every day
[00:00] <olivier__> Beldar, here is the bootinfoscript: http://dpaste.com/3AA8RB7
[00:02] <sacrelicious> apparently theres a possible fix about checking a box for source code in the ubuntu register?
[00:02] <sacrelicious> i have no idea what that means though
[00:03] <DoverMo> sacrelicious, within your software source settings
[00:03] <ovrflw0x> where can i download other themes for unity?
[00:03] <ovrflw0x> how to remove "Displays" from "System settings" in Unity
[00:03] <Beldar> olivier__, Two problems elementary is not supported here, and for windows you are missing what was probably the boot partition. Just as info you are missing /bootmgr /Boot/BCD  in windows tis can be fixed with a recovery or install disc. That is all I can say you are not supported with either here.
[00:04] <OerHeks> !themes
[00:05] <OerHeks> webupd8 reports lot of themes too
[00:05] <sacrelicious> Okay, so the box next to source code has a "-" next to it instead of a check?
[00:06] <olivier__> Beldar, ok thanks to you, I was thinking grub can boot windows without using windows mbr
[00:07] <sacrelicious> WTF. I can't download anything from the software center, and now its claiming no package named firefox exists?
[00:10] <Beldar> olivier__, The mbr is not the issue.
[00:10] <Beldar> you are missing key windows boot stuff
[00:10] <mikeg31> What is the easiest command line editor to use to edit a file in Ubuntu for a Unix newbie?
[00:10]  * tome likes nano
[00:10] <expunge> mikeg31: nano -uw
[00:11] <Beldar> mikeg31, ubuntu is not unix
[00:11] <Kira9204> hands down nano
[00:11] <ovrflw0x> hi Kira9204
[00:11] <expunge> Beldar: sure it is
[00:11] <expunge> joe's a lot like nano, too
[00:11] <expunge> but nano is more prevalent
[00:11] <Kira9204> if you want something more advanced with highlighting and whatever i can recommend vim
[00:11] <olivier__> Beldar, shit it was probably on one of the 2 partition that I have deleted (a recovery one, and another), thanks for your help, I will try windows 7 boot repair
[00:11] <Beldar> it is linux technically different
[00:11] <expunge> Vim takes up-front learning
[00:12] <expunge> Beldar: Linux is a kernel
[00:12] <ovrflw0x> Beldar, olivier__  cussed
[00:12] <Beldar> expunge, Yes I know.
[00:12] <ovrflw0x> Beldar, olivier__ used nasty word show him the usual message
[00:12] <expunge> it's true that Unix is not Linux, one is an OS, one is a kernel
[00:12] <expunge> qutie profound
[00:12] <expunge> and also quite
[00:13] <Beldar> don't make broad generalizations than use a exact definition at the same time expunge
[00:13] <expunge> I don't make the generalizations, I just use'm
[00:13] <Beldar> expunge, You claimed ubuntu was unix
[00:13] <sacrelicious> someone please help -_-"
[00:13] <sacrelicious> I can not install any software, at all.
[00:13] <Beldar> it's not technically
[00:14] <Beldar> that is a broad generalization
[00:14] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: what version are you on?
[00:14] <sacrelicious> 13.04
[00:15] <mikeg31> Let me explain my problem a little further…I am using Ubuntu 14.10.  I cannot stop the system from autologging me in. I think the answer to my problem is here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login, but the biggest obstacle for me now is easiest and safest way to edit system files
[00:15] <user2> who is he, and what is he to you, ooh girl
[00:15] <Beldar> !14.10 | mikeg31
[00:15] <expunge> Beldar: sure it is, an inventor of Unix even said so
[00:15] <qwd> Ubuntu 14.04 on Thinkpad x230. I turn off touchpad to use only trackpoint but it keeps reactivating itself, any idea how to stop this so I don't have to go back to mouse settings all the time?
[00:15] <expunge> nothing personal, I take his assessment over yours
[00:16] <mikeg31> excuse me 14.04 sorry
[00:16] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: thats quite an old release
[00:16] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[00:16] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, I keep getting an error "check your internet connection"
[00:16] <Beldar> expunge, Your rhetoric is contrived, you are back pedaling, you should have said nothing, let the ego go and move on.
[00:16] <_jack_> qwd: you probably have to set an xorg rule
[00:16] <mmiller14> mmiller13: ??
[00:16] <expunge> Beldar: I'll get right on that =P
[00:17] <kostkon> sacrelicious, 13.04 repos are dead. You need to upgrade to a supported release
[00:17] <_jack_> on arch you could just remove x86-input-synaptics :)
[00:17] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, I know, but I need to run it at the moment, I'm running on a laptop with a cracked screen using HDMI, until I can repair it (a few weeks from now) if I upgrade it, It will end up in extend mode with HDMI, instead of Clone mode.
[00:17] <sacrelicious> rendering my machine useless.
[00:17] <ovrflw0x> how can i run a script at startup of unity?
[00:18] <sacrelicious> eh... i'll give it a shot anyway.
[00:18] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: isn't that a bios setting?
[00:18] <Beldar> mikeg31, This a server?
[00:19] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, i dunno.
[00:19] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: like, you can switch on the keyboard
[00:19] <Kira9204> most laptops can
[00:19] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, just ran update manager. it says "failed to download repository information, check your internet connection"
[00:19] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: yeah, the repository is down
[00:20] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, oh, ok. so its not just me then?
[00:20] <ovrflw0x> how can i run a script at startup of unity?
[00:20] <Kira9204> no
[00:20] <sacrelicious> oh, whew... I thought something might really be wrong with my computer.
[00:21] <ImJune> does anyone know any good tutorials for 1.6 (video)
[00:21] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: well, since you are not at it at the moment(?) You can try to ping google.com?
[00:21] <ImJune> Im done with the basics
[00:21] <ImJune> oopps wrong room
[00:21] <Kira9204> (typing from the computer that is)
[00:22] <daftykins> sacrelicious: what version is this?
[00:23] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, how?
[00:23] <sacrelicious> daftykins, of linux? 13.04
[00:23] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: are you sitting at the computer in cloed mode right now?
[00:23] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, yep
[00:23] <daftykins> sacrelicious: that's been dead a fairly long time.
[00:23] <daftykins> !raring
[00:24] <daftykins> sacrelicious: i assume you're aware of this fact?
[00:24] <sacrelicious> daftykins, well, I am now.
[00:24] <Basketball> !trusty
[00:24] <Basketball> !ringtail
[00:24] <sacrelicious> i'm gonna run the update, seems the repository is back.
[00:24] <rrsemple> hi I am having an issue with Ubuntu 12.04.   I have no sound output from my PC.
[00:24] <rrsemple> I tested my speakers and they are fine
[00:24] <daftykins> sacrelicious: ok, so basically you canot be assisted with anything on that version in here, until you upgrade it to a supported release (12.04.5 or 14.04.1)
[00:24] <Basketball> !13.10
[00:24] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: ok, can you try to ping google.com from the terminal?
[00:24] <rrsemple> pulseaudio volume control shows the volume sliders / graphs displaying sound
[00:25] <rrsemple> and volume is turned up / mute is off
[00:25] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, just did.
[00:25] <rrsemple> I tried 2 different sound cards
[00:25] <daftykins> Basketball: if you're going to abuse the bot, please private message it
[00:25] <sacrelicious> daftykins, i'm trying up upgrade now, but its not working.
[00:25] <Basketball> sorry i was tring to remember what 13.10 was called
[00:25] <daftykins> sacrelicious: you'd have to upgrade twice, so your best bet is to backup and clean install
[00:25] <sacrelicious> daftykins, i can't do that at the moment.
[00:25] <sacrelicious> what other options do i have?
[00:26] <daftykins> sacrelicious: depends what you're trying to achieve, today
[00:26] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: if you are lucky sudo do-release-upgrade might work
[00:26] <sacrelicious> daftykins, well, this all started when I was trying to watch a bloody live stream, removed my browser, tried to install it, and realized it wouldnt work.
[00:26] <daftykins> hah, whoops.
[00:26] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: but i'd recommend a clean install of 14.004
[00:27] <Kira9204> *14.04
[00:27] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[00:27] <daftykins> Kira9204: no it's not going to work.
[00:27] <OerHeks> EOLupgrades gives a hack to use the old repo's..
[00:28] <daftykins> sacrelicious: see the last link in OerHeks's bot trigger, you can at least get a browser back. once you fix your screen you really should upgrade though (via clean install)
[00:29] <sacrelicious> do-release-upgrade is, in fact, working.
[00:29] <sacrelicious> booya.
[00:29] <daftykins> that seems unlikely
[00:29] <sacrelicious> thanks to everyone who has helped :)
[00:29] <daftykins> what's it doing, upgrading to 13.10 ?
[00:30] <sacrelicious> no clue.
[00:30] <daftykins> pretty sure you're in for an interesting night :)
[00:30] <daftykins> as i said, bad idea.
[00:30] <sacrelicious> should I just kill the upgrade process?
[00:30] <daftykins> depends how important using that machine is to you
[00:30] <sacrelicious> very.
[00:31] <daftykins> and how good your backups are...
[00:31] <sacrelicious> dont have any =/
[00:31] <daftykins> yeah, i knew that was coming.
[00:31] <sacrelicious> kill it?
[00:31]  * Beldar waits for the nah..nah ...nah..nah .. nah it worked later with no real conformation of a stable system
[00:32] <sacrelicious> hrm...i'll figure this out
[00:33] <sacrelicious> i'll do a clean install when I can... only question is - if I do one, will my HDMI start in clone mode, or in extend mode, by default?
[00:33] <daftykins> i didn't really get why you believed that installing in a given state would do one thing over another
[00:33] <daftykins> either way, things can be resolved
[00:33] <daftykins> what was up did you say? cracked screen? they're easy jobs
[00:33] <Leo_Verto> I'm trying to install 14.04.1 via pxe, can enter the installer and start setting stuff up but the installer fails to get a network configuration
[00:34] <Leo_Verto> from wireshark, it looks like the client is dead
[00:34] <Leo_Verto> manual network configuration didn't work either
[00:35] <daftykins> do you see the DHCP discovery packets?
[00:35] <Leo_Verto> nope
[00:36] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: seems like you are in for an intresting ride, i would had just backed up everything and done a clean tho
[00:36] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, yeah fair enough.
[00:36] <sacrelicious> anyway... i appreciate the help from everyone
[00:36] <Leo_Verto> I think something with the interface setup is wrong
[00:36] <daftykins> sounds about right, yep.
[00:36] <Leo_Verto> but this is just a generic gigabit eithernet port
[00:36] <daftykins> Leo_Verto: right but the client first gets an IP to boot over PXE, so maybe it's already configured
[00:37] <daftykins> i have no direct experience with that though so nevermind
[00:38] <Leo_Verto> well, the same thing already happened with a live-usb
[00:39] <Kira9204> sounds like a driver issue to me then
[00:39] <Kira9204> PXE loads an image into RAM and then boots from it
[00:40] <Leo_Verto> well, in /etc/network/devnames the ethernet controller is detected and assigned eth0
[00:40] <Kira9204> hmm, then it should have a driver for it...
[00:41] <Leo_Verto> I found this http://askubuntu.com/a/463125 which mentions a kernel parameter
[00:41] <Leo_Verto> and references a 404 document
[00:43] <Kira9204> Leo_Verto: what does lspci | grep Ethernet
[00:44] <Kira9204> output
[00:44] <Kira9204> does it find what it should?
[00:44] <Leo_Verto> yep
[00:44] <Kira9204> have you tried to force a DHCP update?
[00:45] <Leo_Verto> yeah
[00:45] <Kira9204> sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[00:46] <Leo_Verto> trying a live usb now, this shell doesn't have ifdown and ifup
[00:48] <Kira9204> Leo_Verto: just to ensure that the DHCP server isn't at fault here, have you tried to set a static IP?
[00:48] <Kira9204> should be pretty straightforward now that you are using a liveusb
[00:49] <Leo_Verto> set a static IP, I've found some pretty specific forum posts
[00:49] <Leo_Verto> pretty sure it's a mobo problem
[00:49] <Leo_Verto> that would also explain some usb ports not working
[00:49] <Oog> i have nginx-full 1.6.0-1+saucy0 installed - i want to install 1.6.1 because of the recent SMTP security issue. any idea when it will come out?
[00:50] <daftykins> Oog: what version are you on? "cat /etc/issue"
[00:50] <Oog> Ubuntu 14.04.1
[00:51] <Oog> daftykins: i updated :D
[00:51] <awesomess3> mine says: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[00:51] <awesomess3> what does the \n and \l mean?
[00:51] <Leo_Verto> yay
[00:51] <daftykins> Oog: good stuff, i thought it was you. the answer is don't know - try and track down the person that packages nginx maybe.
[00:52] <Leo_Verto> apparently this issue is specific to this one motherboard type, but someone found a fix for it
[00:52] <Leo_Verto> thanks a lot for the help daftykins and Kira9204 :D
[00:52] <Kira9204> Leo_Verto: np :D
[00:52] <daftykins> Leo_Verto: what board out of interest?
[00:52] <Leo_Verto> Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7
[00:53] <_Bah> laptops bluetooth is enabled ok, no soft or hard block. It can be seen by other devices, but not connected to nor can it discover the other devices. Ideas?
[00:53] <daftykins> Leo_Verto: hmm AMD fun - looked into BIOS updates i take it? (obviously that's risky)
[00:54] <Leo_Verto> latest bios
[00:54] <Leo_Verto> had to enable the IOMMU controller, whatever that is
[00:54] <daftykins> heh
[00:57] <darksider> hi guys
[00:57] <darksider> anyone with autofs experience?
[01:00] <expunge> darksider: probably someone
[01:00] <darksider> im sure of thst, i just wonder if that someone is around and willing to give a hand :_
[01:00] <darksider> :)
[01:01] <daftykins> ask the actual question and then you'll find out
[01:01] <darksider> i have a network share at <IP_ADDRESS>/DSTCND that i want to mount in /mnt/DSTCND
[01:01] <daftykins> also try to ask it without using the enter key as punctuation
[01:01] <expunge> via what protocol?
[01:02] <f00fSteR> dstcnd protocol of course!
[01:02] <expunge> 'course
[01:03] <x9> my wifi disconnects randomly, suddenly shuts off- no access points at all
[01:03] <darksider> didn't know that know that #ubuntu turns into comedy central at night
[01:04]  * f00fSteR irc has left a distasteful mouth in my taste
[01:05] <darksider> cifs protocol
[01:05] <daftykins> darksider: why not just set it up in /etc/fstab and be done with it?
[01:06] <f00fSteR> x9: try pulling out your dongle and plugging it back in. try this repeatedly, until you see it pay off.
[01:07] <daftykins> ...
[01:07] <darksider> daftykins: making a long story short: the network is not always ready when the system boots, so the drive will not be mounted
[01:07] <x9> f00fSteR, 2 problems, 1 is its integrated, and 2, that's obviously a sex joke
[01:07] <daftykins> darksider: write a script then
[01:08] <Kira9204> x9: ah yes, i had this problem all the time with cheap wifi routers
[01:08] <Kira9204> deactivate wifi then reactivate ti
[01:08] <Kira9204> *it
[01:08] <f00fSteR> x9: modprobe -r iwlwifi && modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1
[01:08] <Kira9204> or restart the router
[01:08] <TJ-> darksider: in that case use the mount option "_netdev" to tell mount not to try until the network is up
[01:08] <f00fSteR> x9: that'll disabl the buggy n mode on your dongle
[01:08] <darksider> hey TJ-
[01:09] <f00fSteR> TJ-: good one ;-)
[01:09] <TJ-> darksider: hiya ... how's it going? :)
[01:10] <darksider> great, spending the saturday night trying to crack this and everybody comes up with workarounds instead of solutions :)
[01:11] <rotzbub> ive got a nikon dsc coolpix s1200pj and am unable to read the photos of it. when i connect it, the camera wants me to open the projector and lsusb and dmesg give me no more info than "nikon connected" obviously i need to connect it via mtp but the usual tools dont know my camera....
[01:12] <daftykins> darksider: well you could look into _why_ your network comes up late
[01:12] <daftykins> darksider: is the system a laptop perhaps, with network configured by network manager - and you have manual login enabled so it takes until you login to get a connection?
[01:12] <daftykins> that'd explain it.
[01:15] <Beldar> rotzbub, I see nothing on the web for ubuntu or linux compatibility, might be some code, hope you have the time
[01:15] <darksider> daftykins: not really, but close :)
[01:15] <daftykins> darksider: how close?
[01:16] <rotzbub> Beldar: thing is, the camera was released in 2012. it even gets recognized as the correct type, but like you i find nothing. :/
[01:16] <darksider> not as close as me find a solution to this problem, I hope
[01:16] <darksider> :)
[01:17] <Beldar> rotzbub, Date of release means nothing.
[01:17] <rotzbub> oh well :(
[01:17] <rotzbub> thanks anyway
[01:18] <darksider> i have a system that turns everything on at the same time (physically) - the NAS that i want to mount takes longer to be ready
[01:19] <x9> myyyy interneetttt iss soooooo slooooooooooowww
[01:19] <daftykins> darksider: so why not remove that from the equation...
[01:20] <daftykins> darksider: it's quite amusing that you considered our suggestions workarounds, when everything's a workaround because you won't just leave it turned on / make sure to turn it on first :)
[01:22] <f00fSteR> darksider: muck u?
[01:22] <darksider> daftykins: when somebody's proposal is for me to rewire the whole thing instead of finding an easy software fix, i consider that a workaround (and not a really good one to be honest) ;)
[01:22] <daftykins> 'rewire the whole thing' ?
[01:22] <Kira9204> isnät the whole point of a NAS to leave it on?
[01:23] <daftykins> Kira9204: it is in my head :(
[01:23] <daftykins> and the rest of the world until now
[01:26] <darksider> hmmm, since conversation went way off course - I travel a lot, for days on and when I do that I turn everything off. When I come back on, I flip a switch and everything turns on at the same time, including the NAS and the ubuntu headless server
[01:27] <expunge> Kira9204: the whole point of a NAS is to sell proprietary OSes =)
[01:27] <darksider> hmm, maybe I should consider cancelling my trips, how's that for a workaround? :)
[01:27] <daftykins> it's helpful to know the background of a scenario to come up with a sensible courses of action at times. think of it as systems analysis
[01:28] <daftykins> darksider: so it's genuinely unfathomable to connect the NAS to a separate socket and leave the others in this gadget? if so i think that's ridiculous
[01:28] <Kira9204> expunge: thats why you build you own nas ;)
[01:29] <Kira9204> the pricing should not differ too much if at all
[01:29] <darksider> if i needed life / house-wiring advices, I'd probably join a different channel
[01:32] <darksider> also, the NAS also acts as a wifi access point which, for various reasons, I dont leave swithced on while im away
[01:33] <daftykins> well, good luck finding a solution to your non-issue
[01:34] <Kira9204> well, if you insist you can add a script that waits a while beforme mounting it
[01:34] <Kira9204> and adding it to rc.local
[01:34] <daftykins> yeah we get told we're working around then :(
[01:35] <darksider> my question was very specific: how to automount a network share
[01:36] <darksider> instead, I get wiring advices and sarcastic attemps
[01:36] <daftykins> you'd be surprised at the number of people that come in asking about a leaf when they had the wrong tree all the time
[01:36] <daftykins> if you have a problem with that, you're welcome to ask for a refund
[01:37] <darksider> for my wasted time?
[01:37] <darksider> consider that a present
[01:38] <Kira9204> darksider: is all you want to mount a network share? here is how i do it for sshfs cat /etc/fstab
[01:38] <Kira9204> sshfs#kira@<addr>:<dir>          /mnt/<mountpoint>     fuse    noauto,reconnect,uid=1000,allow_other,users,defaults,transform_symlinks 0 0
[01:39] <radiogenic> hey ya'll.  I'm taking the edx.org linux class and am installing 14.4 as part of the course requirements.  I found instructions online regarding how to get around the Windows 8 shenanigans but I wanted somebody to recommend me partitioning software to make that empty space (I don't want to partition with just any software.  I'm scared.)
[01:39] <radiogenic> anybody have a recommended Windows 8 partitioning software?
[01:39] <Beldar> radiogenic, yeah windows disk manager
[01:39] <radiogenic> ...o....oh....lol next you're going to tell me that windows 8 mounts .iso files natively!
[01:40] <daftykins> radiogenic: which it does XD but for the love of Tux don't try and install ubuntu that way
[01:40] <darksider> Kira9204: thanks for the advice. That's want I wanted to substitute with autofs, but people here really seem to hate that :)
[01:41] <Beldar> radiogenic, That to out of this world for you? It's the instructions straight from the mother ship.
[01:41] <darksider> I already had that set up
[01:41] <radiogenic> wait can i get the mothership instructions?  I'm on some random website.
[01:41] <daftykins> radiogenic: i'm doing LFS101x for fun too, you really ought to just virtualise if you're not comfortable installing natively
[01:41] <Kira9204> radiogenic: Gparted?
[01:41] <radiogenic> daftykins, i'm like, even less comfortable virtualizing.  never done it.
[01:42] <radiogenic> will it run way slower if I virtualize?  actually i think that's what i want to do now that i think of it
[01:42] <daftykins> radiogenic: heh, it's way easier and less risky than messing about dual-booting with win8
[01:42] <Beldar> I gave you the instructions you can lol all you want but that is how it is generally advised
[01:42] <radiogenic> okay.  yea.
[01:43] <daftykins> radiogenic: grab virtualbox from virtualbox.org, then get started :> you can always change your mind again
[01:43] <radiogenic> ok and to be clear that's not related to sandbox right?
[01:43] <radiogenic> brb
[01:43]  * radiogenic goes to virtualbox.org
[01:43] <daftykins> a VM is a *kind of* sandbox in a way, yeah
[01:43] <Beldar> oh boy play by play
[01:43] <Geo> service networking restart doesn't seem to work anymore as of 14.04; I have added a new bridge interface into /etc/network/interfaces, how do I get that to run? doing an ifup wan1 yields: "cannot find device: wan1"
[01:43] <daftykins> Beldar: perhaps we'll get the download speed stats too
[01:43] <Beldar> ;)
[01:44] <daftykins> Geo: it hasn't been the proper way to do it for years, it's generally advised to reboot sadly
[01:44] <Geo> proper or not, it worked :)
[01:44] <daftykins> i doubt it
[01:44]  * radiogenic stares at download progress
[01:44] <Geo> so that whole discussion aside, there should be some way to do this without rebooting
[01:44] <daftykins> br0 would be more likely the name of a bridge from bridge-utils
[01:46] <Geo> so there's no way to re-read the interfaces file, or even a single interface, w/o rebooting the machine is what you're saying?
[01:46] <radiogenic> my hotel's internet is 1mbit/sec...
[01:47]  * radiogenic stares harder
[01:47] <daftykins> Geo: well at the end of the day you're going to want it configured at boot, so why not just focus on getting it set right? :)
[01:47] <TJ-> Geo: ifup/ifdown is the way to do it, or if the existing interface doesn't have an entry in 'interfaces'; use "ip link set <INTERFACE> {down/up}"
[01:47] <radiogenic> hey has Linus Torvolds ever been in here?  afterall it's the biggest chatroom in the world focused on linux
[01:47] <Geo> TJ-: i added the entry to interfaces, and ifup wan1 says "cannot find device: wan1"
[01:48] <Geo> let me try your second thought
[01:48]  * Beldar stares at the ignore list, "ah a new user".
[01:48] <expunge> Kira9204: yes indeed =)
[01:49] <TJ-> Geo: If there is an entry "wlan1" in 'interfaces' then ifdown/ifup will operate on it, otherwise you need the ip2 tools or, the legacy ifconfig
[01:49] <Geo> TJ-: so ifup scans interfaces each time it is run?
[01:50] <radiogenic> wait
[01:50] <radiogenic> i have the x64 version of ubuntu
[01:50] <radiogenic> with virtualbox do i have to download the x86 version?
[01:50] <Geo> I'm not sure why its telling me wan1 isnt a device, if its added in there
[01:50] <expunge> radiogenic: download?
[01:50] <expunge> radiogenic: you apt-get virtualbox
[01:50] <daftykins> radiogenic: if your host OS is 64-bit windows 8, you'll want 64-bit virtualbox yes
[01:50] <daftykins> expunge: not an ubuntu user yet ;)
[01:50] <expunge> oh windows host =)
[01:50] <expunge> SOON muahahahhh
[01:50] <expunge> one of us, one of us
[01:50]  * daftykins licks his lips
[01:50] <radiogenic> so my x64 .iso of ubuntu will in fact work on virtualbox with win8 as host?
[01:51] <expunge> radiogenic: if it's 64bit win8, yup
[01:51] <radiogenic> yay
[01:51] <expunge> yayx0r
[01:51] <radiogenic> this is for the edx.org linux course
[01:51] <daftykins> radiogenic: yes, VMs or virtual machines are like pretend little computers that use a file on your host OS's hard disk as their virtual hard disk
[01:51] <radiogenic> i like to pretend
[01:51] <radiogenic> PRETENDING'S THE BEST
[01:52] <radiogenic> virtualbox dl complete brb
[01:52] <expunge> heh
[01:52] <JD3L> pretending rocks
[01:52] <JD3L> lel
[01:52] <daftykins> radiogenic: anywho, this is really an ubuntu support channel so be sure to keep general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:52] <TJ-> Geo: correct, 'interfaces' is part of the ifupdown system
[01:52] <Geo> then why wont it do it :P
[01:53] <radiogenic> but..but.. can't be PRETEND that general chat is allowed here?
[01:53] <radiogenic> jk
[01:53] <radiogenic> ok
[01:53] <Geo> ip link set wan1 gives the same error, btw
[01:53] <Geo> cannot find device wan1
[01:53] <daftykins> radiogenic: yeah i wouldn't recommend trying volunteers patience ;)
[01:53] <radiogenic> :3
[01:54] <Kira9204> Geo: you can map devices to aliases here: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[01:55] <Kira9204> be careful tho
[01:55] <radiogenic> i think the virtualbox install reset my network adapter
[01:55] <daftykins> yeah, it warns about that.
[01:55] <daftykins> !virtualbox
[01:55] <daftykins> hmm no mention of a channel
[01:56] <edition> !daftykins | I find virt-manager faster than virtualbox
[01:56] <expunge> top secret
[01:56] <daftykins> radiogenic: anywho, i have to go, but you can always ask in probably #virtualbox about any issues getting up and running with creating a VM etc
[01:56] <expunge> edition: not on windows you don't =)
[01:56] <expunge> it's #vbox IIRC
[01:56] <daftykins> edition: that's lovely, this is a windows user just starting out taking an edX.org course on Linux for beginners
[01:56] <expunge> or here
[01:57] <edition> im a windows user :)
[01:57] <expunge> edition: not on windows you don't =)
[01:57] <daftykins> good for you
[01:57] <Akiva-Thinkpad> how do I setup a midi controller to output on ubuntu? I just bought a midi controller, and have it hooked up via a usb chord atm :)
[01:58] <edition> !Akiva-Thinkpad You need to setup JACK
[01:58] <MonkeyDust> Akiva-Thinkpad  #ubuntu-studio is multi media dedicated
[01:58] <radiogenic> daftykins, ty for the help!  :3
[01:59] <daftykins> radiogenic: just a quick heads up, the way you setup a VM is you attach the downloaded .ISO to its' virtual CD drive, so there's no need to burn any DVDs etc. to install, anyhow enjoy and good luck :>
[01:59] <Akiva-Thinkpad> do I really need jack?
[01:59] <edition> well, thats the backend.
[02:00] <aarcane_> I accidentally deleted all of /run on a working system, and I suspect some current difficulties are a result.  What do I need to do to recreate /run ?
[02:00] <edition> but I would recommend Jack.
[02:00] <radiogenic> I AM SO EXCITED daftykins!  I'll let you know how it goes.
[02:00] <expunge> aarcane_: how'd you delete it?
[02:01] <aarcane_> expunge, rm -rf *
[02:02] <TJ-> aarcane_:  /run/ is a tmpfs so just reboot and everything will be fine
[02:02] <aarcane_> expunge, I was attempting to repair a non-booting machine, but it's since become apaprent some of the contents of /run are actually important beyond just runtime...
[02:02] <aarcane_> TJ-, so the problem is probably somewhere else then..
[02:03] <expunge> aarcane_: you were in /run/ when you ran that?
[02:03] <alfonsojon> Hi, I'm doing some theme development (porting Dust to GTK3), where can I get started?
[02:03] <TJ-> aarcane_: Some symlinks are created from other places: e.g. /var/run -> /run
[02:04] <expunge> alfonsojon: there're some gtk chans, but there might be more on irc.gnome.org
[02:04] <aarcane_> expunge, yes.  I knew what I intended to do, but it's had some unintended side-effects
[02:04] <alfonsojon> expunge: fantastic, thanks.
[02:04] <expunge> aarcane_: sure, just want to know exactly what happened
[02:07] <aarcane_> expunge, so this system boots over nfs, and after a recent power outtage, it's failed to boot.
[02:07] <aarcane_> expunge, so as a temporary solution and response to some of the on-screen text, I attempted to clear out /var/run, and because /var/run is a symlink, /run.
[02:08] <TJ-> aarcane_: what messages are being reported?
[02:08] <expunge> a recent power outage where the data actually is?
[02:09] <aarcane_> expunge, it's in the bedroom, so yeah.  power outage on both the NFS server and the network booted system.
[02:10] <aarcane_> TJ-, messages about programs not starting because of existing instances.  pid#s listed, and they corresponded to entries in /var/run when I inspected it.  then it hung.  I think it was a red herring, because those messages are all cleared up and I'm still encountering errors.
[02:11] <TJ-> aarcane_: OK... if the tmpfs failed to mount on /run/ at some point, the underlying root file-system's /run/ directory might actually contain files that are causing the hiccup
[02:11] <TJ-> aarcane_: If working on a non-live system that is easy to check, by simply mounting the root file-system someplace else and looking in its /run/ directory.
[02:11] <aarcane_> TJ-, I just solved the problem
[02:12] <TJ-> aarcane_: phew! that saved me some typing!
[02:13] <aarcane_> TJ-, expunge:  The problem was this:  A recent package install auto added network-manager.  When network-manager started, it gave no consideration to the fact that the system was an nfsroot system, and modified the network device settings.  Whenever network-manager would start, some time shortly after that, the system would freeze, sometimes printing stack traces; sometimes simply hanging indefinitely.
[02:14] <aarcane_> TJ-, expunge:  Now that I've manually disabled network-manager, and cleaned out /run in a more appropriate way and added it to fstab explicitly, the system boots stablely and reproducibly.
[02:15] <TJ-> aarcane_: Yay... we like success stories :)
[02:16] <sgtlaggy> hey guys, i've got a question. already searched google, but didn't find what I'm trying to do. how can i dd or cat to a specific partition instead of an entire device?
[02:16] <sgtlaggy> not trying to clone a drive. i want to dd/cat an iso onto sdi2
[02:17] <aarcane_> TJ-, expunge:  Thank you both for the valiant and prompt attempts to help :)
[02:17] <nahtnam> Hey!
[02:18] <TJ-> sgtlaggy: "dd if-/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/sdXY bs=1M" ... X == drive letter, Y == partition number, e.g. of=/dev/sdi2
[02:18] <nahtnam> I wanted to buy a laptop from System 76. I read about a lot of good reviews, then I found a reddit thread filled with a lot of bad ones. Do you think I should get one from System 76? If not, which laptop should I get? I am looking for i7 + 16 gb of ram + atleast Intel 4600 graphics
[02:19] <nahtnam> Must come with ubuntu
[02:19] <alfonsojon> nahtnam: With those requirements, it's System76 or bust.
[02:19] <TJ-> sgtlaggy: typo: "dd if=/path/to/file.iso ..."
[02:19] <nahtnam> alfonsojon: So do you think its worth getting?
[02:19] <wafflejock> nahtnam, I have one it does have faults but I like it all the same and overall no major issues
[02:19] <nahtnam> wafflejock: What kind of faults?
[02:19] <alfonsojon> nahtnam: I think so, personally
[02:19] <wafflejock> nahtnam, from what I understand they resell Clevo laptops so if you are on a budget perhaps check those out too
[02:20] <alfonsojon> They're not Macbook Pros, obviously
[02:20] <sgtlaggy> TJ-: all the links i found said you couldn't dd to a specific partition. maybe that's just old news or something different. and i think my problem was i didn't isohybrid it correctly the first time. thanks!
[02:20] <cynicallemon> nahtnam: theres always lenovo
[02:20] <alfonsojon> They're honestly above most Windows laptops in my opinion in terms of quality of build
[02:20] <nahtnam> alfonsojon: Which model do you have?
[02:20] <TJ-> sgtlaggy: sounds like people who don't know a thing about what they write! The whole point of 'dd' is it can write *anywhere*
[02:20] <wafflejock> nahtnam, just sensitivity problems with the touchpad doesn't deal with 3 monitor output (this isn't a huge deal but I only found Kubuntu to properly restore my desktop config on reboot with two external monitors)
[02:21] <alfonsojon> nahtnam: None, personally
[02:21] <alfonsojon> But I've used a friend's for a few days
[02:21] <alfonsojon> It was nice.
[02:21] <nahtnam> alfonsojon: Sorry, meant to ask wafflejock. What model do you have?
[02:21] <alfonsojon> They bought the Darter UltraTouch
[02:21] <wafflejock> nahtnam, I've got a Gazelle 7 gen
[02:21] <alfonsojon> I used it for a bit, the touch screen was eh
[02:21] <nahtnam> alfonsojon: Any issues with it? I dont want to waste 1k
[02:21] <alfonsojon> nahtnam: none that I knew of, it seemed fine.
[02:22] <alfonsojon> Lithium Ion battery is a bit dated (should be Lithium Polymer, but whatever)
[02:22] <wafflejock> er crap maybe it's 8 it's 1 gen old
[02:22] <nahtnam> alfonsojon: Awesome, thanks!
[02:22] <wafflejock> performance wise SSD is amazing though
[02:22] <nahtnam> wafflejock: Yeah, 8. So in your opinion do you think I should get it?
[02:22] <wafflejock> and I've installed every flavor of *buntu on it
[02:22] <wafflejock> yeah I'd rebuy from them again
[02:22] <nahtnam> What about the drivers then?
[02:23] <nahtnam> how did you get them working on all of your installs
[02:23] <wafflejock> haven't really had any problems with that the one I have just uses the Intel HD 4000 graphics though
[02:23] <wafflejock> graphics are surpringly good for Intel chipset though too
[02:23] <nahtnam> wafflejock: Kk, and finally do they have good customer support and warranty and what not?
[02:23] <wafflejock> HD video is no problem
[02:24] <wafflejock> nahtnam, regarding support I really haven't had to call them so I can't say
[02:24] <nahtnam> wafflejock: Kk. I guess ill take the risk and hopefully if something messes up, they will take returns or fix it
[02:24] <wafflejock> nahtnam, the touchpad stuff I found a workaround for on Unity and then on KDE, just installed GNOME Ubuntu, but for the most part i use an external everything anyway
[02:25] <nahtnam> wafflejock: Same, but I do ocasionally use the touchpad so if it doesnt work, ill have to get it fixed.
[02:25] <wafflejock> nahtnam, it works it just picks up palm touches
[02:25] <wafflejock> nahtnam, there are scripts to ignore those though
[02:25] <wafflejock> or settings
[02:25] <sgtlaggy> if anyone knows anything about syslinux/isohybrid: if i'm "converting" an iso to use it on the second partition, should the offset be the start of the second partition or end of the first? or something with the blocks?
[02:25] <nahtnam> oh ok, thats not a problem then
[02:25] <_Bah> im trying to set mic settings in alsamixer to minimize white noice, but every time I start recording (arecord, audacity) the settings are messed up. how to prevent that?
[02:26] <nahtnam> wafflejock: Thanks a lot for your input. I was feeling down after I read the reddit thread, but it sounds like a lot of haters got together to make that thread.
[02:27] <wafflejock> nahtnam, yeah I've looked around at lots of reviews too, some really positive some really negative... honestly I feel I lean more towards the positive but I can see it's not all perfect yet
[02:27] <wafflejock> that said super happy with it
[02:28] <expunge> sgtlaggy: pretty sure GRUB can boot from a file in an FS
[02:29] <jorge> what gnome version does ubuntu 12.04 use?
[02:32] <dodah> well if you keep changing your nick, maybe you'll confuse more folks than me..
[02:32] <expunge> jorge: 3.0
[02:35] <wafflejock> I'm digging 3.12 so far but not sure if the activities thing is working correctly with multiple monitors seems like only the primary goes across to different activities secondary monitor is "static"
[02:35] <wafflejock> maybe just some config I've yet to find though
[02:36] <stikkemz> hi dudes, i`m having quite the hustle trying to make a game work in wine/playonlinux, getting a direct3d error upon running the game
[02:37] <expunge> wafflejock: I seem to remember some of that being underdeveloped
[02:37] <expunge> stikkemz: which game?
[02:37] <stikkemz> ConquerOnline2
[02:38] <wafflejock> expunge, cool might be kinda nice actually just have to think more about what apps go where
[02:38] <expunge> mmm
[02:38] <stikkemz> expunge:  when you have a minute i`ll go into more detail
[02:39] <Tin_man> anyone order out for pizza?
[02:39] <_jack_> the pizza is aggressive
[02:39] <QuackBarCode> his flatulency must proceed him
[02:40] <expunge> stikkemz: gogo
[02:40] <QuackBarCode> so plz stand down wind and eat your pop korn pizzas
[02:40] <expunge> pizza-party
[02:40] <Tin_man> depends on the topping
[02:40] <QuackBarCode> anchovies frijolimollie
[02:40] <_jack_> one large pizza pie for the nutron household
[02:40] <Tin_man> lol
[02:40] <_jack_> **BOND WITH ME, JIMMY**
[02:40] <QuackBarCode> fuck the ducky
[02:40] <QuackBarCode> phu yak
[02:41] <QuackBarCode> fubarian warrior
[02:41] <Tin_man> anchovies is great if fresh.. left over not good
[02:41] <QuackBarCode> !fubarian function()
[02:41] <IdleOne> stop now, please.
[02:42] <Tin_man> sure glad my name isn't ducky
[02:42] <QuackBarCode> !fubarian function(){}(!kumarian)
[02:43] <stikkemz> expunge: so basically I install the damn game, wine works fine for everything up to the point I need to run the game. At that point I get a Direct3D incompatibility error. I tried emulating xp/7/8 over wine, also tried different versions of directx, followed some recommended tuts on dx packages needed to get it up and running and I feel like I`m missing something
[02:43] <stikkemz> expunge: let me know if you want the exact error msg
[02:44] <expunge> stikkemz: which game?
[02:44] <stikkemz> expunge: Conquer Online 2
[02:46] <stikkemz> expunge: according to the specs of the game I should be emulating the requirements -- http://co.91.com/guide/guides/systemrequire.shtml
[02:46] <maryjain> !find sherm stick
[02:47] <stikkemz> expunge: I`am also running nvidia geforce GT540M but i`m pretty sure wine used the intel graphics
[02:48] <expunge> stikkemz: conquer online?
[02:48] <darkelfjuggalo> Was adobe-Flashplugin removed from the repository for ubuntu 14.04 LTS? I just tried to get it from Adobe.com there is an option APT for ubuntu 10.04+ When i selected it the Software Center was opened and said no package 'adobe-flashplugin' was found
[02:48] <stikkemz> yeah, don't ask.. I`m trying to build a python bot for it
[02:48] <stikkemz> but i need it to run first
[02:48] <stikkemz> :))
[02:48] <stikkemz> expunge: yeah, don't ask.. I`m trying to build a python bot for it, but i need it to run first
[02:49] <expunge> heh
[02:49] <IdleOne> darkelfjuggalo: flashplugin-installer
[02:49] <expunge> stikkemz: did you read this? https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4055
[02:49] <phunyguy> !info flashplugin-installer | darkelfjuggalo
[02:51] <darkelfjuggalo> I need this for the System Flash though[would the tarball file from adboe be better for this purpose] I have my chrome built in with the latest available flash, but my browser games crash if the Browser based plugin is enabled
[02:51] <stikkemz> expunge: took a glimpse over it, but i must have missed this bit: The game required the following winetricks:
[02:51] <stikkemz> - corefonts (fixed issue with game crashing when starting)
[02:51] <stikkemz> - flash11 (fixed issue with no menus showing up after starting game)
[02:51] <stikkemz> lemme check that out
[02:52] <expunge> mmm, winetricks is handy
[02:52] <stikkemz> expunge:  yeah i been busting my ballz with winetricks for a wile now but I mainly focused on the directx issue
[02:52] <stikkemz> expunge: testing now
[02:53] <expunge> poor balls
[02:53] <Guest81569> 为什么新安装的ubuntu14.04.1  cpu的使用率那么高  白分之50
[02:53] <stikkemz> poor indeed :(
[02:54] <Beldar> !cn | Guest81569
[02:55] <stikkemz> expunge: Q: in order to use a package i need to install it from the Package Installer first, ye?
[02:58] <stikkemz> expunge: I can't seem to find corefonts in the install list,and flash11.. I did find flash (Flash Player 12) ?
[02:58] <stikkemz> expunge: again, do I need to find them here or just set them in the WineTricks
[02:58] <edition> "apt-cache search corefonts"?
[02:59] <stikkemz> edition: tw mate
[02:59] <stikkemz> was installed tho
[03:00] <phunyguy> folks, can we try to keep the topic family friendly, please?
[03:00] <martin1989> NO
[03:00] <expunge> stikkemz: in winetricks?
[03:00] <martin1989> i'll fight with everyone!
[03:00] <phunyguy> really...
[03:00] <martin1989> come on!!
[03:00] <stikkemz> expunge: hmm?
[03:00] <martin1989> hahaha
[03:00] <phunyguy> martin1989: enough
[03:01] <martin1989> sorry..
[03:01] <martin1989> just joking
[03:01] <expunge> stikkemz: sorry what're you asking?
[03:01] <phunyguy> Well I'm not :)
[03:01] <phunyguy> !guidelines | For those that are interested,
[03:02] <Tin_man> as tin_man goes to bed, i'll leave you with a link..
[03:02] <edition> !help
[03:02] <stikkemz> well that link you told me about tells me that i need to install corefonts and flash11.. corefonts seems to be in the ttf-mscorefonts-installer package
[03:02] <Tin_man> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpEOmZTYA4A
[03:02] <expunge> stikkemz: no no
[03:02] <stikkemz> expunge: well that link you told me about tells me that i need to install corefonts and flash11.. corefonts seems to be in the ttf-mscorefonts-installer package
[03:02] <expunge> stikkemz: winetricks is a script
[03:02] <edition> then install it
[03:02] <expunge> stikkemz: which takes arguments like 'flash11' and 'corefonts'
[03:02] <stikkemz> so i dont need to install those
[03:02] <stikkemz> i just need to add them
[03:02] <expunge> stikkemz: http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
[03:03] <stikkemz> ok, some reading should solve it
[03:03] <stikkemz> ty ty
[03:03] <stikkemz> <3
[03:03] <expunge> actually you can install winetricks via apt-get (in universe)
[03:03] <expunge> if you want
[03:03] <stikkemz> expunge: way ahead of that mate
[03:03] <stikkemz> ty anyway
[03:03] <expunge> k
[03:06] <Elora22>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.ly/1lLuZsn
[03:06] <SchrodingersScat> !spam | Elora22
[03:06] <MetalGearNinja> hey guys im new to ubuntu so plz excuse this if its a dumb question but doesn anyone know if there is a way to install an apple recognized itunes?
[03:07] <MetalGearNinja> i do a lot with my 5s and am really missing my itunes
[03:07] <stikkemz> so i added those arguments to wineconfig in the libraries, also added d3d9
[03:07] <phunyguy> MetalGearNinja: VirtualBox with USB passthrough, and Windows XP or 7 inside.
[03:07] <phunyguy> it's the "only way"
[03:08] <MetalGearNinja> hmm ok thnx
[03:08] <stikkemz> and still same error "The game can not start. The problem might be related to your version of Direct3d"
[03:09] <stikkemz> expunge: so i added those arguments to wineconfig in the libraries, also added d3d9  and still same error "The game can not start. The problem might be related to your version of Direct3d"
[03:09] <expunge> MetalGearNinja: one or two versions work via Wine as well, but VirtualBox is "simpler"
[03:09] <expunge> MetalGearNinja: what do you actually use in iTunes?
[03:10] <stikkemz> expunge: also dxdiag.exe doesnt run..you want me to pastebin what it says?
[03:11] <expunge> stikkemz: nope
[03:11] <stikkemz> expunge: mmmkey
[03:11] <edition> Penguins don't eat apples
[03:11] <expunge> stikkemz: you read this 'HOWTO'?
[03:12] <thinkxl_> I'm trying to install this color pallet https://github.com/chriskempson/base16-gnome-terminal/blob/master/base16-default.dark.sh
[03:12] <stikkemz> expunge: the wiki page u gave me?
[03:12] <thinkxl_> I run it at ~ like ~/.base ... sh
[03:12] <thinkxl_> and nothing happen
[03:12] <thinkxl_> any help?
[03:13] <expunge> stikkemz: yeah, there's a big 'HOWTO' section
[03:13] <expunge> MetalGearNinja: top secret? =P
[03:13] <stikkemz> expunge: on it now
[03:18] <stikkemz> expunge: oryt.. i read it.. and installed those 2 packages - corefonts and flash11--
[03:19] <blackwings> greetings
[03:19] <stikkemz> expunge: same direct3d error upon launch
[03:19] <blackwings> anyone here that could answer a question of mine ?
[03:19] <expunge> blackwings: no, but some people are that could
[03:19] <blackwings> hmm, ok, ill just go ahead and state it
[03:20] <blackwings> im looking for something like a windows widget to display the songs i listen in my media player
[03:20] <blackwings> on the desktop
[03:20] <blackwings> with album cover and change buttons
[03:20] <phunyguy> blackwings: the indicator applet that comes with ubuntu does that already
[03:20] <phunyguy> you just have to click the volume icon.
[03:20] <blackwings> yes but its not on desktop
[03:21] <blackwings> im using dual screen, i got used to that way of using it since windows
[03:21] <blackwings> i change the songs easier that way
[03:21] <phunyguy> conky with hotkeys to control?
[03:21] <blackwings> that could work but i dont think there's gonna be a album cover
[03:21] <blackwings> also its gonna be hard to find a good script for less-known players
[03:22] <expunge> blackwings: this is ordinary Ubuntu you're using? What version?
[03:22] <blackwings> latest
[03:23] <blackwings> 14
[03:24] <expunge> blackwings: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/coverbox-puts-music-artwork-controls-on-the-ubuntu-desktop ?
[03:24] <blackwings> tried that one aleardy
[03:24] <expunge> and?
[03:24] <blackwings> E: Unable to locate package canberra-gtk-module
[03:24] <blackwings> i get that in the terminal when trying to get the packages
[03:25] <expunge> it's called libcanberra-gtk-module
[03:25] <expunge> you have it installed? (dpkg -l | grep -i canberra)
[03:25] <blackwings> hmm
[03:25] <blackwings> not sure
[03:25] <stikkemz> expunge: any idea why i get errors when i run dxdiag.exe?
[03:25] <blackwings> its exe
[03:26] <expunge> stikkemz: run how? What errors?
[03:26] <expunge> blackwings: hrmm?
[03:26] <blackwings> im kinda new to ubuntu ,expunge, you're gonna have to tell me what i need to look for
[03:26] <stikkemz> expunge: well i asked you if I should pastebin you the damn thing and you said no :(
[03:26] <expunge> blackwings: run 'dpkg -l | grep -i canberra), see if you see libcanberra-gtk-module
[03:27] <expunge> stikkemz: so don't
[03:27] <blackwings> libcanberra-gtk-module:amd64
[03:27] <blackwings> i got that
[03:28] <OerHeks> stikkemz, direct3D is a wine issue
[03:28] <blackwings> is that good, expunge ?
[03:28] <OerHeks> !wine
[03:28] <stikkemz> ok, for anyone out there willing to help me out with why I get this error when I run 'wine dxdiag.exe' here is the output: http://pastebin.com/9w901WW6
[03:28] <expunge> blackwings: not really =)
[03:29] <blackwings> then how shall i proceed?
[03:29] <expunge> blackwings: what's the error, again?
[03:29] <stikkemz> OerHeks: ok.. so there is nothing to be done about it?
[03:29] <blackwings> E: Unable to locate package canberra-gtk-module
[03:29] <expunge> blackwings: from what command?
[03:29] <blackwings>  sudo apt-get install python-dbus python-gtk2 python-cairo python-rsvg python-xlib python-xdg canberra-gtk-module
[03:29] <expunge> blackwings: heh, okay
[03:29] <expunge> blackwings: just remove the 'canberra-gtk-module' from that, and try again
[03:29] <stikkemz> i see people who made this game run, but following their instructions didn;t cut it for me
[03:29] <blackwings> ok lemme try
[03:30] <expunge> stikkemz: the particular Wine version can be very important
[03:30] <expunge> also following steps exactly...
[03:30] <blackwings> ok it works, expunge
[03:30] <expunge> don't know how many times it took me citing the page before you claim to have read it... 3?
[03:30] <expunge> blackwings: =)
[03:30] <rasteroid> blackwings: there are no such packages, only libcanberra packages
[03:30] <theitus> ok can someone help with adobe flash player i cant run files
[03:31] <stikkemz> expunge: wine-1.6.2
[03:31] <blackwings> theitus im trying to install this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/coverbox-puts-music-artwork-controls-on-the-ubuntu-desktop
[03:31] <expunge> stikkemz: it'll say on the page I linked which wine versions are best
[03:31] <expunge> theitus: files?
[03:32] <expunge> rasteroid: gj you just confused him
[03:32] <stikkemz> expunge: but i got the same issue with  wine 1.7
[03:32] <OerHeks> !playonlinux
[03:32] <expunge> stikkemz: that means nothing to me I'm afraid
[03:32] <rasteroid> expunge: thx k bai!
[03:32] <expunge> =P
[03:32] <rasteroid> expunge: but there *aren't*
[03:33] <stikkemz> expunge: that is the latest wine from their official repo
[03:34] <expunge> stikkemz: that means nothing to me I'm afraid
[03:34] <expunge> rasteroid: quoi?
[03:34] <chaosbringer> Hello all, I'm having issues finding a straight forward guide to set-up raid 0 before installing ubuntu
[03:34] <blackwings> ok expunge, i installed the application
[03:34] <theitus> files yes i cant find how to open abode flash
[03:34] <blackwings> how do i run it ?
[03:35] <blackwings> nvm found it, expunge, thanks for your help
[03:35] <theitus> how to run abode
[03:35] <expunge> chaosbringer: raid 0 is quite a bad idea
[03:35] <chaosbringer> I have a 250GB SSD and 2 3TB hdds.... trying to install ubuntu-gnome but set-up raid 0 on the 2 3TB HDDs before installing
[03:35] <chaosbringer> expunge, why exactly is it a bad idea?
[03:35] <expunge> theitus: what are you trying to "run"?
[03:35] <expunge> chaosbringer: raid 0
[03:35] <chaosbringer> expunge, why exactly is it a bad idea?
[03:35] <stikkemz> right... will stop wasting my time here. cheers
[03:35] <theitus> adobe flash player
[03:36] <rasteroid> expunge: je t'en prie, tu devrais pas essayer de parler en francais avec moi
[03:36] <expunge> chaosbringer: because the whole point of raid 0 is to get enterprise level access out of a patheticly small amount of consumer level hardware
[03:36] <blackwings> thanks for the help expunge
[03:36] <theitus> its kinda killing me
[03:36] <expunge> it's paradoxically bad
[03:36] <chaosbringer> pourquoi
[03:37] <jorge> why is ubuntu not letting me access facebook?
[03:37] <expunge> theitus: adobe flash player isn't something you ... "run"
[03:37] <chaosbringer> expunge
[03:37] <expunge> theitus: it's a plugin for browsers, mainly
[03:37] <chaosbringer> the point of raid 0 is to stripe the drives
[03:37] <chaosbringer> to make them seem as one
[03:37] <expunge> rasteroid: ikr
[03:37] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: it's not bad, i run lots of RAID0 SSD setups, both at home and at work
[03:37] <chaosbringer> intead of 2 3TB i'd get 1 6TB partition
[03:37] <expunge> chaosbringer: no, that is just part of raid 0
[03:37] <expunge> the point is to sacrifice reliability for access speed
[03:37] <chaosbringer> Ok, opinion to the side expunge
[03:37] <expunge> ok
[03:37] <chaosbringer> do you have a guide at how to do it?
[03:37] <expunge> raid 0?
[03:37] <theitus> i downloaded it it will not work
[03:37] <chaosbringer> any raid
[03:38] <chaosbringer> for gnome-shell prior to install guide
[03:38] <chaosbringer> will work
[03:38] <rasteroid> chaosbringer 'man mdadm'
[03:38] <chaosbringer> as long as it's straight forward
[03:38] <chaosbringer> yeah, i looked at mdadm
[03:38] <theitus> yeah a plugin to movie right
[03:38] <chaosbringer> but it looks like it's not "straight forward": example, i saw issues with grub in the forums, etc
[03:38] <chaosbringer> and the need to boot into another live CD after
[03:38] <chaosbringer> to fix it
[03:38] <expunge> chaosbringer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[03:38] <theitus> play
[03:39] <chaosbringer> expunge, Note: This page is about Ubuntu 9.10. It may not apply to newer versions anymore.
[03:39] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: sudo mdadm -C /dev/md0 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd /dev/sde --level=raid0
[03:39] <chaosbringer> Looked at that as well
[03:39] <chaosbringer> rasteroid, is that all?
[03:39] <chaosbringer> so for me wanting two:
[03:39] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: all of those devices are plextor SSDs on an LSI HBA
[03:39] <rasteroid> yes
[03:40] <expunge> chaosbringer: you should look into JBOD
[03:40] <chaosbringer> And ubuntu picks it up right away? (I already partitioned them to be the same size unformatted
[03:40] <rasteroid> expunge: i run mongo on top of that
[03:40] <expunge> or just LVM
[03:40] <expunge> rasteroid: heh, I bet you do
[03:40] <expunge> I bet it's web scale
[03:40] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: well, you need to mount it
[03:41] <rasteroid> expunge: not to say i don't have lots of magnetic RAID6 on real controllers as well...
[03:43] <chaosbringer> You can mount and format the md0 device with gparted prior to installing with a livecd yeah?
[03:43] <nico_> chaosbringer: hi ( sorry for my bad english ) . i like too to build ubuntu in rai partition , and i know how to do this only with the .iso  of ubuntu 12.04 alternate ....now i discover is possible to do ( for 14.04 trusty tahr ) whit the .iso of the server edition , durin the install is possible to add " ubuntu desktop " , gnome desktop, lubuntu , xubuntu ..... ( sorry new time is the first time i enter in irc )
[03:44] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: yes, and you should 'mklabel gpt'
[03:44] <chaosbringer> K, yeah i'll need gpt anyways because msdos only sees 2TB
[03:44] <chaosbringer> and both my drives are 3TB
[03:44] <chaosbringer> I only use nix OS's anyways
[03:44] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: why do you want RAID0? why not RAID1?
[03:44] <chaosbringer> Because I want all 6TB
[03:44] <chaosbringer> raid 1 mirrors
[03:45] <chaosbringer> I am a software architect
[03:45] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: i'm well aware
[03:45] <chaosbringer> so
[03:45] <chaosbringer> I need tons of space
[03:45] <chaosbringer> for different virtual boxes, etc
[03:45] <chaosbringer> I've turned my PC into a workstation essentially with 32TB of ram and all the latest hardware
[03:45] <chaosbringer> i'll add more HDDs eventually
[03:46] <chaosbringer> You'd recommend both 10?
[03:46] <expunge> you want JBOD, not RAID
[03:47] <chaosbringer> expunge
[03:47] <expunge> RAID is not for getting more space, that is just an occasional side effect
[03:47] <chaosbringer> i've partitioned multiple drives
[03:47] <chaosbringer> to boot into the same OS before
[03:47] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: i think expunge is right :-)
[03:47] <chaosbringer> in fact, i will also have an SSD boot my os
[03:47] <chaosbringer> but I don't want 2 x 3TB i wanted 1 6TB
[03:47] <chaosbringer> isn't the only way of doing that with raid?
[03:47] <expunge> you can tell your system you have 1 6TB without using raid
[03:48] <expunge> no, it isn't
[03:48] <user7654> tar seems to be having issues with capturing *EVERYTHING* into an archive when I run '(tar cvfW > log.out) >& err.out I logg the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8004304/
[03:48] <chaosbringer> I do have an extra 2TB drive, maybe I could do 4TB in stripped and 4 TB in mirror
[03:49] <user7654> (I'm trying to backup what's left of a dead laptop)
[03:49] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: i think this is what you want: 'mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level=linear --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda3 /dev/sdc3 '
[03:49] <chaosbringer> how complex would be to set that up with 3 Drives? (2 x 3TB + 1 2TB)
[03:50] <GandalfGreyHat> I made a huge mistake.
[03:50] <expunge> look into LVM spanning
[03:50] <ahsm> good evening guys
[03:50] <rasteroid> expunge: my vaio laptop pulls ~900Mb/sec, in RAID0
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> !ssd | chaosbringer
[03:50] <user7654> how can I get a clean run of tar without errors and have it capture everything?
[03:50] <allenrm> hey all, can anyone tell me if its safe to install cinnamon on Ubuntu 14
[03:50] <chaosbringer> lotuspsychje, what does that have to do with me setting up raid with the non-ssd drives? :)
[03:50] <chaosbringer> That's cool though
[03:50] <expunge> rasteroid: neat
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> chaosbringer: just for ssd info, i also have an ssd tweak url if you want
[03:51] <GandalfGreyHat> I have a Lenovo Windows 8 computer. I had Ubuntu installed in a dual-boot setup for a long time, now the Windows 8 loader thing is giving me an error code of 0xc000000f and I'm about to just rage so hard.
[03:51] <expunge> allenrm: safe?
[03:51] <ahsm> I downloaded ubuntu a while ago installed it and everything was good, then i updated it and my super key (windows key) + W and other commands crash unity... what could it be?
[03:51] <allenrm> expunge, yeah is it going to crash my unity desktop, is it going to cause issues, you know?
[03:52] <thecodethinker> How do I get my trackpad on my lenovo e531 to right click?
[03:52] <chaosbringer> lotuspsychje, sure!
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> GandalfGreyHat: did you try single ubuntu on your machine?
[03:52] <thecodethinker> I think there's a config file that lets me define the right click area
[03:53] <thecodethinker> but I can't seem to find it
[03:53] <GandalfGreyHat> When I try booting with just a single Ubuntu drive, I get an error message of 1962: No operating system found
[03:53] <thecodethinker> erm
[03:53] <expunge> allenrm: it's an alternative to Unity
[03:53] <GandalfGreyHat> Fresh Ubuntu 12.04 install
[03:53] <expunge> allenrm: if you don't like it you can switch back
[03:53] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: the difference between RAID0 and linear is; the first one makes things faster, but if you lose one you lose them all, the second one just makes all the space on all the drives available.
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> chaosbringer: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[03:53] <advx_> Hi all Good Morning, Have a great SUNDAY...
[03:53] <GandalfGreyHat> I think it's loading into some kind of Windows 8 Bootloader thing or something first
[03:53] <allenrm> thanks
[03:53] <GandalfGreyHat> I have no idea how this windows 8 crap works and it's more than pissing me off
[03:53] <expunge> advx_: and you
[03:54] <chaosbringer> rasteroid, i'm writing up the config I want with all the drives I have available (taking me a bit to type it! :) )
[03:54] <chaosbringer> lotuspsychje, thanks!
[03:54] <expunge> GandalfGreyHat: but you do have an idea of how it works: poorly =)
[03:54] <allenrm> i have had this build running for a few months now, and don't want to muck it up, BUT i used to run Mint and really liked the cinnamon DE
[03:54] <advx_> expunge, thanks
[03:55] <expunge> allenrm: back it up first?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> GandalfGreyHat: try disable secureboot and install ubuntu clean
[03:55] <GandalfGreyHat> So from the top down here's what I had. I tried to install Ubuntu 12.04 alongside Windows 8. It worked, but very poorly. I wanted to use GRUB exclusively, but the Windows Bootloader takes priority over GRUB somehow, I could never get around that. I tried to install Ubuntu on an SSD and use it in the machine earlier today, and now I have this error and I can't get around it, and I want to just throw this entire system in the gar
[03:56] <chaosbringer> rasteroid, if i want something like this:
[03:56] <chaosbringer> 1x250SSD (For main os)
[03:56] <chaosbringer> 2x3TBHDD + 1x2TBHDD partitioned like this = 1 4TB Raid 10
[03:56] <chaosbringer> How would that look?
[03:56] <allenrm> expunge, i have everything backed up
[03:56] <chaosbringer> I'd mount /home /var /opt and a few others to the 4TB partition from the HDDs
[03:56] <GandalfGreyHat> If I installed Ubuntu flat out, and somehow miraculously get it to work, can I ever go back to wIndows 8 if I want to?
[03:56] <chaosbringer> that would give me back the fault tolerance while gaining the performance of raid 0
[03:57] <GandalfGreyHat> I want the option, not that I'd actually do it
[03:57] <chriys> hey guys
[03:57] <chriys> this the command I used: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 1936 -j ACCEPT
[03:57] <chriys> I'm trying to open some port on my iptables but for some reasons it does really work
[03:57] <chriys> this the command I used: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 1936 -j ACCEPT
[03:57] <tekkitindisguise> Hi
[03:57] <expunge> hi tekk
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | chriys
[03:58] <expunge> GandalfGreyHat: if you do it right
[03:58] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: RAID10 requires 4 drives. you should check wikipedia for RAID. what you might want is the 3TB drives in RAID1 for backup, and the 1TBs in RAID0 for speed, using rsync to keep the current working data backed up to the redundant volume
[03:58] <ahsm_> hello
[03:58] <expunge> ahsm_: heya
[03:58] <GandalfGreyHat> I mean, is the EFI literally on the system board or something?
[03:58] <ahsm> hey expunge
[03:58] <tekkitindisguise> Anyone tried zorin?
[03:58] <GandalfGreyHat> I need to understand why this Windows 8 Bootloader keeps kicking me in the dick
[03:58] <chaosbringer> rsync? that seems hackish
[03:58] <chaosbringer> Also, I don't have a 1TB i think you mean 2TB
[03:58] <expunge> GandalfGreyHat: question for #windows, I fear
[03:59] <rasteroid> GandalfGeyHat: it's because different BIOSes only look in different directories for 8.efi files
[03:59] <expunge> GandalfGreyHat: efi is partly firmware, yes
[03:59] <rasteroid> *.efi files
[03:59] <chriys> lotuspsychje: I did those steps
[03:59] <GandalfGreyHat> .#windows is about as useless as a holy condom
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:59] <tekkitindisguise> turn of secure boot
[03:59] <tekkitindisguise> turn off secure boot
[03:59] <nicolinus> hi :) chaosbringer ( sorry for my bad english ) i like to run ubuntu in raid , before i know to do this only whit the .iso of ubuntu 12.04 alternate.... the versions after not create raid array...but i discover is possible to do whit the . iso ( for trusty tahr ) of the server edition , durin the installation is possible to create raid array , ald vlm to have the possibility to add new volume group after iunstallation....durin the install is possible to add
[03:59] <nicolinus>  ubuntu desktop , gnome desktop , xubuntu , lubuntu , ubuntu studio ......
[03:59] <chriys> lotuspsychje: I'm still getting the same issue my iptables shows that the rules are added. But When I test the ports it doesn't work.
[04:00] <chaosbringer> kk
[04:00] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: have you tried using BootRepair?
[04:00] <GandalfGreyHat> the windows automatic boot repair is bollocks
[04:00] <expunge> mmhmm
[04:00] <GandalfGreyHat> if there's an ubuntu boot repair, I'd use it, if I could get ubuntu to boot
[04:00] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: no, the Ubuntu one
[04:00] <tekkitindisguise> GET RID OF SECURE BOOT
[04:00] <expunge> GandalfGreyHat: well you aren't going to get much win32 bsod help in #ubuntu
[04:00] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: look for a liveCD that includes it, and turn off secure boot in the BIOS
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> i never understand why users wanna mess with dualboots
[04:01] <GandalfGreyHat> How do I get into my BIOS?
[04:01] <tekkitindisguise> Just get rid of windows
[04:01] <GandalfGreyHat> I'm clueless man, all the typical bios buttons aren't working
[04:01] <chaosbringer> so rasteroid linear it is
[04:01] <TaZeR> restore windows with cmd line repair tool bootrec /fixmbr and bootrec /fixboot
[04:01] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: usually you hold down the 'delete' key when it start
[04:01] <GandalfGreyHat> I want to just take a hammer to it
[04:01] <GandalfGreyHat> lotus, I don't want to dual boot anymore
[04:01] <TaZeR> the autmaotic one sucks
[04:01] <GandalfGreyHat> I jsut want Ubuntu
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> GandalfGreyHat: did you try single install ubuntu?
[04:02] <GandalfGreyHat> what's single install?
[04:02] <expunge> that's academic if you can't boot any OS
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> ive been able to install 14.04 on many machines with uefi, working out of the box
[04:02] <tekkitindisguise> Overwrite windows with ubuntu
[04:02] <GandalfGreyHat> I have an SSD in the unit with nothing but a fresh Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on it
[04:03] <GandalfGreyHat> The machine will not boot it
[04:03] <allenrm> expunge, thanks man, install went smooth, all "seems" to be normal
[04:03] <expunge> allenrm: =)
[04:03] <TJ-> GandalfGreyHat: On an UEFI system the boot menu is stored in the non-volatile RAM of the motherboard's firmware. When you installed 12.04 alongside Windows 8 my guess would be it was installed in legacy mode. In UEFI mode the firmware presents the list of boot options, and OSes can add themselves to that list if they boot in EFI mode. That is what Windows will have done so it takes precedence. Ubuntu would likely require you to use CSM mode to boot the HDD with GR
[04:03] <TJ-> UB installed in its MBR.
[04:03] <nicolinus> hi :) sorry for my bad english ( is the first time i entry in xchat :) )
[04:03] <tekkitindisguise> Why not trusty?
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> GandalfGreyHat: start over again, install 14.04 as only Os on your lenovo
[04:03] <tekkitindisguise> Yes
[04:03] <GandalfGreyHat> TJ-: thank you very much for that
[04:04] <GandalfGreyHat> That's the type of information I was looking for
[04:04] <GandalfGreyHat> So I just need to rip off my NVRAM
[04:04] <TJ-> GandalfGreyHat: No
[04:04] <GandalfGreyHat> and smash it with a hammer
[04:04] <GandalfGreyHat> hahahahaha
[04:04] <expunge> heh
[04:04] <GandalfGreyHat> I was joking
[04:04] <allenrm> expunge, i'm still learning the ropes, i keep trying new things as i feel thats the only way i will learn.
[04:04] <GandalfGreyHat> But yes, I understand now
[04:05] <GandalfGreyHat> I'll go back over and attempt to fix it in a minute
[04:05] <GandalfGreyHat> I have no idea how to access or manipulate my EFI though
[04:05] <expunge> allenrm: well there's nothing wrong with using backups to make you feel safe =)
[04:05] <GandalfGreyHat> so if something's broken in that, not sure what to do
[04:05] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: in the BIOS menu, you can determine what you startup volumes are. if you set UEFI the system can only boot UEFI, if you set legacy it can boot older volumes
[04:06] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: if you want to use UEFI you must start the installer as a UEFI volume
[04:06] <GandalfGreyHat> So here's what I'm going to try to do
[04:06] <TJ-> GandalfGreyHat: You need to boot the Ubuntu ISO installer in UEFI mode rather than CSM mode, then Ubuntu will install in the same way as Windows did, and all OSes you may choose to install later will be chosen via UEFO boot menu, with no interference between the OS boot-loaders, as used to be the case with BIOS legacy (UEFI CSM - Compatibility Support Module) and GRUB vs Windows in MBR
[04:06] <GandalfGreyHat> Get into BIOS, turn on Legacy, turn off Secure Boot, and attempt to boot from my Ubuntu 12.04 SSD
[04:06] <allenrm> the only backup i'm really worried about is my photo's and those are on a couple external drives hehe
[04:06] <dopie> hey im currently using ssh and im inside my site , how do i download a file to a specific location on my hard drive?
[04:06] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: when you change these options and restart and re-enter BIOS setup you will see that the boot options change
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> it depends on the machine really, some machines can install ubuntu without changing uefi settings
[04:06] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: that sounds good
[04:06] <expunge> dopie: from your local machine: scp user@localsite:path/to/file .
[04:07] <dopie> scp?
[04:07] <GandalfGreyHat> TJ- I've given up on Windows 8 dual boot, I just want Ubuntu only on this system now.
[04:07] <expunge> dopie: or, the less awful way: mkdir whatever; sshfs user@localsite whatever; cp whatever/path/to/file .
[04:07] <expunge> dopie: yup
[04:07] <rasteroid> dopie: secure copy
[04:07] <GandalfGreyHat> I have plenty of other Windows computers, but having Ubuntu on this one is important. We use it as a fancy shmancy ubuntu server
[04:07] <expunge> it's just 'cp' over ssh
[04:07] <GandalfGreyHat> rsync?
[04:08] <expunge> rsync?
[04:08] <TJ-> GandalfGreyHat: I'd recommend installing 14.04 LTS then; the ISO will boot in UEFI mode natively too (as long as you choose that from the offers in the mobo's boot-menu) :)
[04:08] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: remote sync
[04:08] <GandalfGreyHat> alright
[04:08] <GandalfGreyHat> going to try 14.04
[04:08] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: usually invoked by a CRON job
[04:09] <rasteroid> expunge: rsync?
[04:09] <TJ-> GandalfGreyHat: Ubuntu will work with UEFI Secure Boot too, although it doesn't hurt to turn that darned thing off if you don't need it
[04:09] <expunge> rasteroid: rsync?
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: lol
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> uefi is a bad nightmare invention indeed
[04:10] <rasteroid> can someone please tell me how to get my *upgraded* precise->trusty box to use nvidia drivers without freaking out?
[04:10] <OerHeks> !uefi
[04:10] <rasteroid> lotuspsychje: t'is not
[04:10] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: I love it compared to the multiboot nightmares of BIOS legacy, but Secure Boot can cause problems if you need Nvidia or AMD proprietary GPU drivers
[04:10] <rasteroid> TJ: +1
[04:10] <expunge> it's exactly the same as BIOS, except that more learning is required
[04:11] <expunge> same problems
[04:11] <GandalfGreyHat> multiboot was easier on legacy bios
[04:11] <GandalfGreyHat> I understand writing and configuring a GRUB bootloader
[04:11] <rasteroid> and the manufacturers don't always follow the rules, Sony being particularly bad
[04:11] <GandalfGreyHat> but this newfangled shit is garbage
[04:11] <TJ-> It's better than BIOS in my opinion... being able to have a really powerful shell from firmware makes things so much easier to fix when things get really bad
[04:11] <rasteroid> TJ: +2
[04:11] <IdleOne> GandalfGreyHat: Please keep the language clean
[04:11] <expunge> well it makes moving the mouse around easier
[04:12] <TJ-> And UEFI provides for dynamical loading of device driver modules
[04:12] <expunge> how that is important to booting is beyond me
[04:12] <GandalfGreyHat> My apologies
[04:12] <GandalfGreyHat> I forgot that Ubuntu is family friendly
[04:12] <rasteroid> expunge: i think it means that you can net boot from a command prompt if you know the language
[04:13] <TJ-> UEFI is not the same as a GUI firmware... the GUI is something manufacturers add to BIOS *or* UEFI to make it easier for novice users to work with
[04:13] <expunge> rasteroid: you can do that without u/efi, too, though
[04:13] <expunge> TJ-: mmm, but that's the only plus =P
[04:13] <TJ-> UEFI Shell provides many powerful tools, like a GRUB or Linux rescue disk, built-in
[04:14] <expunge> grub does that on its own, though
[04:14] <expunge> pretty crufty if you ask me
[04:14] <rasteroid> expunge: without loading anything that isn't on the board?
[04:14] <TJ-> export: GRUB is *not* needed when we have UEFI ... Linux can be booted directly from UEFI
[04:14] <expunge> rasteroid: it's all on the board, somewhere
[04:14] <tekkitindisguise> Change the boot device
[04:14] <expunge> TJ-: yeah, but uefi isn't needed if grub can do it, either
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> well i dont like uefi, im almost sure there's an evil pact behind with w8 and manufacturs
[04:15] <expunge> lotuspsychje: oh there is =)
[04:15] <rasteroid> expunge: i'm going to quote you, "it's all on the board, expunge said".
[04:15] <TJ-> expunge: UEFI is needed, it configures the hardware. Without it, you've got an expensive pile of sandy components
[04:15] <expunge> rasteroid: be my guest
[04:15] <expunge> TJ-: or BIOS
[04:15] <expunge> or coreboot =)
[04:16] <TJ-> expunge: BIOS cannot do what UEFI can do, the reason we moved away from it was it had to contain amazing amounts of 16-bit compatible code
[04:16] <expunge> sure it can
[04:16] <expunge> I don't think that is the reason =)
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> my old amd 3200+ 64bit trusty desktop with bios, running rocketfast nothing like those slow w8 boxes
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> years old hardware...
[04:16] <rasteroid> lotuspsychje: certain manus, like sony, do all sorts of things to make it difficult to override their efi modules
[04:16] <expunge> lotuspsychje: yes, it's not rocket science
[04:17] <as73790> zz
[04:17] <as73790> :q
[04:17] <TJ-> The nice thing with UEFI too is you can install your own shell; I install the Tianocore V2 shell on everything... think of it like BASH; with scripts and so on in files on a proper file-system, before the OS
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: with what purpose exactly?
[04:18] <expunge> yes, finally a shell you can use instead of just booting your OS...
[04:18] <expunge> amazing
[04:18] <expunge> and not at all crufty
[04:19] <chriys> does anyone knows Red5 here
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> chriys: whats that
[04:20] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: The 'E' stands for extensible. I can plug in some adapter, add its UEFI device-driver into the ESP, load it from shell (shell boot script) and have that device available for use before any boot loader or OS starts. In the BIOS days, that kind of device often meant it couldn't be a boot device, as was the case with e.g. many fakeRAID controllers
[04:21] <chriys> lotuspsychje: it's a media server
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: ah i see tnx
[04:21] <chriys> check red5.org
[04:24] <expunge> chriys: try #polls
[04:24] <TJ-> One part of UEFI users's don't see though, is the properly designed API for the OS to talk even in 64-bit protected mode. With legacy BIOS the CPU would have to switch back to x86 Real mode with some expensive context switching. Now it is just like another syscall.
[04:24] <expunge> that's true, users do not see a properly designed UEFI
[04:25] <wookienz> hi guys, my NFS shares are trying to mount before the network is ready, which causes the machine to hang on boot. How do i delay the mounting?
[04:25] <expunge> wookienz: you call from fstab?
[04:26] <sacrelicious> hey guys i need help, how can i get a copy of gparted that will work on 13.04?
[04:26] <TJ-> It's nice you can see the contents of the UEFI's NVRAM via /sys/firmware/efi/efivars, for example. You can't do that with BIOS, even BIOS minor revisions can store their settings in different binary bits, and no-one except the manufacturers know what is there, and can't get at it to change if the BIOS is buggy
[04:26] <expunge> sacrelicious: sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:27] <expunge> TJ-: that does sound nice
[04:27] <TJ-> wookienz: Add the "_netdev option in fstab, for those NFS devices. See "man mount" and then do "/   _netdev"
[04:27] <sacrelicious> expunge: E: Unable to locate package gparte
[04:27] <expunge> finally a way to look at stuff I don't give two craps about
[04:27] <expunge> sacrelicious: gparted
[04:27] <jenenliu> hi guys
[04:27] <expunge> jenenliu: hi
[04:27] <sacrelicious> expunge: E: Unable to locate package gparted
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> !13.04 | sacrelicious
[04:27] <sacrelicious> sorry, forgot to copy the d from the text.
[04:27] <jenenliu> expunge: ;)
[04:28] <TJ-> expunge: And, as one who had to reverse engineer a Sony Vaio BIOS to figure out which bit to flip to enable hardware virtualisation support in Intel CPUs - which took me 3 weeks - I appreciate UEFI even more :)
[04:28] <sacrelicious> yeah I know, I'm trying to upgrade, but I can't wipe a usb stick and install a new upgrade.
[04:28] <sacrelicious> for some reason its not working, I need to fgure out how to get gparted on 13.04
[04:28] <rasteroid> YJ - are you thr guy who sussed the santa rosa?
[04:28] <expunge> eh, you're comparing a badly made BIOS with an idealized UEFI
[04:28] <ivan__> !queue http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3679657630
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> sacrelicious: did you try the usbcreator app?
[04:28] <rasteroid> TJ-
[04:29] <sacrelicious> lotuspsychje: startup disk creator? yup. It can't format any of my usb keys for some reason.
[04:29] <TJ-> expunge: No, a locked down BIOS. The point is with efivars I have access to the system's configuration and can change it
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> sacrelicious: what error you getting?
[04:29] <ivan__> !queue http://www.speedtest.net/result/3679657630.png
[04:29] <rww> ivan__: what are you trying to do
[04:29] <rasteroid> TJ - IIRC it was byte 1512
[04:30] <ivan__> i am trying to get an invite
[04:30] <ivan__> by passing the interview
[04:30] <rww> ivan__: an invite to what?
[04:30] <expunge> TJ-: no, the point is you can be locked out of either
[04:30] <ivan__> hmmm
[04:30] <expunge> they're the same
[04:30] <ivan__>  wrong channel
[04:30] <rww> ivan__: because this is the Ubuntu support channel, not wherever you think you are
[04:30] <rww> indeed
[04:30] <ivan__> sorry
[04:30] <rww> no problem
[04:31] <sacrelicious> lotuspsychje: Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for objects (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[04:31] <TJ-> rasteroid: 7 years ago; can't remember now... my article is at http://tjworld.net/wiki/Sony/Vaio/FE41Z/HackingBiosNvram
[04:32] <expunge> wow that looks boring =)
[04:32] <chubboes> after bacula-console-qt installed command "bat" gives permission denied msg?
[04:32] <rasteroid> TJ: they locked virtualization and hyperthreading
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> sacrelicious: and you cant inctall gparted?
[04:32] <TJ-> rasteroid: I never had problems with HT
[04:32] <sacrelicious> correct, i got the error message when trying to install it from the terminal, i suspect it might be because my repos are out of date
[04:33] <chubboes> >( expunge?
[04:33] <chubboes> after bacula-console-qt installed command "bat" gives permission denied msg?
[04:33] <expunge> no idea
[04:33]  * expunge splits
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> sacrelicious: maybe try unetbootin ?
[04:34] <rasteroid> TJ-i don't remember the name, i think an sz761 something. my current vaio doesn't have this problem
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> or loading the .iso from grub
[04:34] <sacrelicious> E: Unable to locate package unetbootin
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> !info unetbootin | sacrelicious
[04:35] <sacrelicious> lotuspsychje: E: Unable to locate package unetbootin
[04:35] <chubboes> unopaste: why?
[04:35] <chubboes> after bacula-console-qt installed command "bat" gives permission denied msg?
[04:35] <TJ-> rasteroid: I dumped Sony after that; that machine has been unbooted in my lab for several years. I use Dell's now since they have so much expansion potential and are easy to strip-down for servicing
[04:36] <rasteroid> TJ - they don't make them anymore
[04:36] <redeleven> What is the min amount of ram I should have on an old computer so it could run Ubuntu?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> sacrelicious: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[04:36] <rasteroid> TJ - but they are my preferred laptop. desktops are zotac/xeon and servers are supermicro/amd
[04:37] <TJ-> sacrelicious: If you're using 13.04 you'll need to switch the "/etc/apt/sources.list" to use the archives at "http://old-releases.ubuntu/com" instead of the usual archives, since 13.04 is EOL
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> redeleven: goto lubuntu or xubuntu
[04:37] <sacrelicious> TJ-: how do i do that?
[04:37] <blackwings> eyo,. im back
[04:37] <TJ-> redeleven: I've got machines with 384MB that do OK
[04:37] <redeleven> Okay, trying to bring life back to this ancient Vaio
[04:38] <blackwings> redeleven do you use gnome 3.10 ?
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> redeleven: lubuntu will revive your machine for sure :p
[04:38] <blackwings> do you have any idea how i can put the terminal transparency back on ?
[04:38] <advx_> Bye...Have a great day...
[04:39] <TJ-> sacrelicious: "sudo sed -i 's,http://.*archive\.,http://old-releases.,' /etc/apt/sources.list" then "sudo apt-get update"
[04:39] <sacrelicious> i'm so confused right now... i just want to figure out a way to upgrade to the current version to my computer actually functions again
[04:40] <TJ-> redeleven: I've got a couple of SRX51P that still do OK; you may need to use a Debian kernel though, because some of the older models don't support PAE (which is required with Ubuntu 32-bit kernels)
[04:40] <chubboes> sacrelicious: goto www.ubuntu.com get ISO disk image of new ubuntu
[04:40] <chubboes> burn it to disk
[04:41] <sacrelicious> chubboes: i did. I can not burn it for some reason
[04:41] <chubboes> hehehehehehe
[04:41] <redeleven> Sounds good, I will check it all out. Appreciate the help
[04:41] <chubboes> are you for real
[04:41] <rasteroid> sacrelicious: install unetbootin and use it to create a USB bootable drive
[04:42] <jenenliu> ;)
[04:42] <chubboes> sacrelicious: run it!
[04:43] <chubboes> sacrelicious: You have local computer repair shops?
[04:45] <chubboes> sacrelicious: cd-rom player only right
[04:56] <chubboes> OP chubboes
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[05:32] <absk007> which FS partition should be on a fast drive other than /home? i keep some heavy apps in /opt so that will be on a fast drive too.  I've a fast 7.42 GB thumb drv. and a Class 4 16 GB microSD Card. Where to put what?
[05:35] <Beldar> absk007, Why no internal?
[05:36] <chriys> Everytime I try to install a package I get this error: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:36] <absk007> Beldar, 320GB HDD burnt it running Win 7 Ult.
[05:37] <absk007> chriys, try dpkg --configure -C
[05:37] <nicolinus> :) absk007 can be cool to create logical volume manager so is possible to resize the partitions when they are full ?....i use to create usr partition for the apps...but maybe i am wrong...
[05:37] <Beldar> absk007, You can only take that speed race so far with that hardware any hardware really, just use it.
[05:38] <chriys> absk007: I got this: dpkg: error: conflicting actions -C (--audit) and  (--configure)
[05:38] <bekks> absk007: Both USB thumb drives and SD cards arent "fast drives", both are awfully slow actually.
[05:38] <absk007> chriys, do either one
[05:38] <absk007> bekks, no options
[05:38] <bekks> absk007: In that case it doesnt matter where you put what.
[05:39] <chriys> absk007: same issue
[05:39] <absk007> the thumb drv. is a 2.0 one attached to 3.0 port
[05:40] <absk007> chriys, did you try "dpkg --configure" OR "dpkg -C" ?
[05:41] <Beldar> chriys, try sudo dpkg --configure -a  than  sudo apt-get install -f  post your sources in a pastebin if you still have problems after.
[05:41] <chriys> ok Beldar
[05:41] <absk007> the apt-get fixes many things.
[05:41] <Beldar> chriys, And a sudo apt-get update with the sources.
[05:41] <chriys> absk007: it ask me to do dpkg --configure package-name
[05:42] <chriys> Beldar: what do you mean with the sources
[05:42] <absk007> chriys, just do what Beldar says
[05:42] <Beldar> chriys, I said if the two commands do not work post your sources just add a update with it.
[05:43] <royalaxe> heyo guys
[05:43] <absk007> chriys, check this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/dpkg-returning-an-error-code-1-a-896225/
[05:44] <chriys> ok
[05:44] <bekks> chriys: Whats the exact error you get?
[05:44] <Beldar> chriys, you can pull up all your sources with this command. grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[05:44] <royalaxe> i should goto bash chan but perhaps the answer is here, has anyone ever run vlc from the terminal to play an avi file?
[05:44] <chriys> bekks: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:45] <Beldar> chriys, Follow beck's though I have to take off shortly.
[05:45] <bekks> chriys: Thats one line, and not a full error message. :)
[05:45] <bekks> chriys: Pastebin the entire output please and provide the URL.
[05:45] <chriys> here are my sources http://pastebin.com/iZY0fm2A
[05:46] <bekks> chriys: Thats only one part of your sources, you still may have content in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[05:47] <chriys> and this is the error after I did apt-get install -f  http://pastebin.com/YEd0T1vQ
[05:47] <chriys> ok let me check them.
[05:48] <bekks> chriys: Whats this "red5-server" all about?
[05:48] <chriys> it's a media server.
[05:49] <bekks> chriys: So check why it couldnt be started then.
[05:49] <chriys> the thing is this error appears whatever package I try to install
[05:49] <chriys> even if I purge that package
[05:49] <bekks> The thing is, that whatever package is going to be installed, dpkg assumes that the red-5server issue has to be foxed before.
[05:49] <bekks> *fixed
[05:51] <chriys> oh ok I see.
[05:51] <chriys> I just purged the red5-server and installed iptables-persistent
[05:52] <chriys> bekks: how can I verify what avoid red5-server to start
[05:53] <bekks> chriys: By installing it, waiting for the installation to fail, and checking the postinstall script which is mentioned, and investigating what causes that script to fail.
[05:54] <chubboes> How do I become the OWNER and Administrator?
[05:54] <chriys> this is the message when I try to install http://pastebin.com/PWGcWVHj
[05:55] <bekks> chubboes: Of what?
[05:55] <chubboes> Ubuntu 14
[05:55] <bekks> chubboes: 14.04 or 14.10?
[05:55] <chubboes> .04
[05:56] <theitus> help with getting and useing adobe flash
[05:56] <bekks> chriys: Now you have to investigate /var/lib/dpkg/info/red5-server.postinst and check why it fails.
[05:56] <absk007> theitus, no issue. Just install the "adobe-flashplugin-installer"
[05:56] <chubboes> because if I am not the OWNER then I get no access
[05:57] <bekks> chubboes: So ask the owner to grant you access.
[05:57] <chubboes> okay what do I type to upgade to .10
[05:57] <bekks> chubboes: What exactly is the message you get when doing what exactly?
[05:57] <chriys> bekks: what should I look for?
[05:57] <bekks> chriys: reasons why it fails.
[05:57] <chriys> sorry to ask but I'm really a newbie on this
[05:57] <chubboes> after bacula-console-qt installed command "bat" gives permission denied msg?
[05:58] <absk007> theitus, "sudo apt-get install -y flashplugin-installer"
[05:58] <adam_> Hi, I need help. I am not liking the Ubuntu 14.04 desktop, is there a way I can install Xubuntu's or Ubuntu studio's?
[05:58] <bekks> chubboes: you need to either a) configure bat to be run as user b) or run bat using gksu bat
[05:58] <absk007> adam_, sure...
[05:58] <bekks> chubboes: that has nothing to do with being "owner".
[05:58] <adam_> absk007 How?
[05:59] <chubboes> :)
[05:59] <bekks> adam_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:59] <adam_> Okay thank you, Bekks
[05:59] <theitus> do i put that in just how its typed
[06:00] <absk007> theitus, yep! in terminal you can remove the "-y" flag if you wanna see the download confirmation
[06:00] <sparton> adam: what did you not like about the desktop?
[06:02] <absk007> adam_, good that you switching from unity of ubuntu. Canonical managed to insert contextual ads based on your desktop search which means they keep & use your search text for their profit.
[06:03] <sparton> absk007: you can disable that
[06:03] <adam_> Well, one. All the ad programs.
[06:03] <chriys> bekks: this the /var/lib/dpkg/info/red5-server.postinst http://pastebin.com/PgHFaBMn
[06:03] <adam_> Two, terminal should be sitting there from the get go.
[06:03] <absk007> sparton, sure. By uninstalling 'em. But why enable by default in the 1st place.
[06:03] <chriys> Honestly after looking into it I can't tell you if it's right or wrong
[06:03] <adam_> 3, its just hard.
[06:04] <adam_> Xubuntu and Ubuntu studio looks much better and much simpler.
[06:04] <absk007> adam_, sparton, https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks
[06:04] <adam_> And the multi desktops
[06:04] <adam_> Just perfect.
[06:04] <sparton> adam_ : Xfce and kde play pretty well in 14.04, gnome3 used to break things in other versions.
[06:05] <bekks> chriys: So you have to start red5-server and see why it fails.
[06:05] <theitus> i didnt get anything
[06:05] <adam_> sparton I admit it is fast.
[06:05] <absk007> theitus, did you try this? "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[06:05] <sparton> break things as in with unity......if your goal is to not retain unity that gnome3 is fine
[06:06] <bt2bn> hi - i can't seem to find an answer to this question elsewhere - sometimes when i use the show desktop button or minimise in some way I lose the windows i was using and can't seem to get them back - my conkys disappear, my browsers are there but they are bars and i can't work out how to restore them - probably a simple answer but can someone help please?
[06:06] <theitus> ok it left me with mext cmd line
[06:06] <adam_> My FX-4100 Ubuntu 14.04 is killing my Windows 7 i7 3750
[06:06] <theitus> next
[06:07] <adam_> theitus its done then.
[06:07] <absk007> theitus, it's because you have disabled partner sources
[06:07] <theitus> cool thx
[06:08] <absk007> may be not if everything is fine
[06:08] <absk007> :)
[06:08] <adam_> I have used Ubuntu studio and Xubuntu but Ubuntu 14.04 has a more stable kernel.
[06:08] <bekks> adam_: Thats ot true. Both use the same kernel.
[06:08] <chriys> bekks: do you know how can I locate this file invoke-rc.d: initscript red5-server, action "start" failed. ?
[06:08] <bekks> *not
[06:08] <chriys> invoke-rc.d
[06:08] <adam_> Bekks, they are slightly diferent.
[06:08] <adam_> Same linux based.
[06:08] <theitus> oh how do you if it works though\
[06:08] <bekks> chriys: "invoke-rc.d" is a command.
[06:08] <adam_> But different.
[06:09] <bekks> adam_: Thats not true. Both are _identical_.
[06:09] <adam_> Bekks, no.
[06:09] <sparton> adam_ : stable yes.....using AMD grfx i liked the enhancements 3.16 brought....which is what I switched to
[06:09] <absk007> Everyone must be aware of "Ubuntu security notices" http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[06:09] <bekks> adam_: They are identical. The only difference is the desktop environment used.
[06:09] <adam_> bekks nope, I have looked at both kernels.
[06:10] <adam_> I tend to add, my own security, Bekks.
[06:10] <absk007> theitus, run youtube.com
[06:10] <bekks> adam_: So Ubuntu has nothing to do with your kernel differences then.
[06:10] <adam_> No I have looked at the coding, bekks.
[06:10] <theitus> youtube runs
[06:11] <chubboes> bekks: How do I connect to the bat director?
[06:11] <adam_> Bekks, I make I read the directions.
[06:11] <adam_> Bekks I meant coding
[06:11] <absk007> theitus, run addictinggames.com
[06:11] <bekks> chubboes: There is no "bat director". There is a bacula director only.
[06:11] <adam_> I am in two chats.
[06:12] <theitus> i just cant get games to run like battlefield 1942
[06:12] <adam_> Theitus what is your specs?
[06:12] <bekks> adam_: There are no "different kernels" for Ubuntu Kubuntu, etc. - there is just one repository and thus only one kernel for all.
[06:12] <chubboes> bekks: accually the is a console connection to the Director
[06:12] <adam_> bekks, Studio was made by 3rd party based on Ubuntu 12
[06:12] <adam_> Bekks, then they took it there own way.
[06:13] <chubboes> bekks: gksu bat
[06:13] <absk007> theitus, is the game flash based?
[06:13] <chubboes> try it
[06:13] <theitus> ok how to check specs im kinda new to this
[06:13] <adam_> theitus, time to learn. Did you buy or build your PC?
[06:13] <theitus> yes its flash based
[06:13] <bekks> chubboes: Start the bacula director, and use bat to connect.
[06:14] <theitus> bought
[06:14] <chubboes> okay
[06:14] <bekks> adam_: Ubuntu studio uses a realtime kernel, which is also exactly the same as the realtime kernel in the official ubuntu repos.
[06:14] <adam_> bekks, Thats the old kernel.
[06:15] <absk007> adam_, everyone buys stuffs. No one has a factory backyard. :)
[06:15] <adam_> Bekks, they took it their own way.
[06:15] <adam_> absk007 I meant that did he buy the parts and put it together
[06:15] <absk007> :)
[06:15] <adam_> absk007 or did he buy it at a store
[06:15] <adam_> absk007 or from a friend
[06:15] <apickle> Hello everyone.
[06:15] <apickle> I was curious.
[06:16] <adam_> absk007 this Pc I have is my old AMD Gaming rig.
[06:16] <apickle> How is it that I obtain DHCP on my interface?
[06:16] <adam_> absk007 That I built
[06:16] <apickle> dhclient?
[06:16] <bekks> adam_: The did not take any other way than the official Ubuntu way. Ubuntu Studio is a official derivative ans uses official kernels only.
[06:17] <bekks> adam_: Please read the last paragraph here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[06:17] <adam_> bekks, they only would do that if they were official.
[06:17] <bekks> adam_: Ubuntustudio is official.
[06:17] <infinmed> HELLO!
[06:17] <adam_> bekks, which version?
[06:18] <adam_> Thats for their latest 14.04 but the older ones arent
[06:18] <bekks> adam_: Even 12.04 was official.
[06:18] <adam_> bekks, partially.
[06:18] <adam_> bekks, Kernel only
[06:19] <nico_07> hi :) . bekks do you know if are not differences to ubuntu desktop and server ? i'd read about the server is different ... in one post...but i don't know if this is real... :) thanks :)
[06:19] <bekks> nico_07: Different set of default applications installed.
[06:19] <chubboes> bekks: How do I connect to X server?
[06:19] <apickle> So... how do I force a DHCP address lease on Ubuntu server?
[06:19] <bekks> chubboes: you dont need to.
[06:19] <adam_> chubboes you are in one.
[06:19] <chubboes> YES!
[06:20] <adam_> !server
[06:20] <nico_07> ( i have install my ubuntu on a raid and i use the server edition for to do that ) ....
[06:20] <edition> ?
[06:21] <theitus> how to open apps
[06:21] <chriys> bekks: finally I installed it manually
[06:21] <bekks> chubboes: You have to tell us what exactly you are doing, and you have ti tell us the exact error message. We cantguess what you are doing.
[06:21] <bekks> theitus: Ubuntu has no apps, it's not a smartphone. Ubuntu has installed programs only :)
[06:22] <theitus> program sorry ;
[06:22] <bekks> theitus: Which desktop environment are you using?
[06:22] <chubboes> bekks:    bat: cannot connect to X server
[06:22] <theitus> studio if thats what you mean
[06:22] <bekks> chubboes: So you are not running it locally, are you?
[06:23] <chriys> thx for your help
[06:23] <bekks> theitus: Then you have a menu, with all programs listed, I guess?
[06:23] <nico_07> thanks... ( durin the installation i had the choice to add ubuntu desktop , and gnome , ubuntu studio ... ) so now  i have justthe normal ubuntu but in a raid... ( thanks :) )
[06:23] <chubboes> bekks: it practically is localhost
[06:23] <bekks> chubboes: What does that mean?  So I am asking for clarification and details.
[06:25] <chubboes> bekks: okay "X server"  how do I get a connection to it?
[06:25] <bekks> chubboes: you dont "get an connection to the X server".  Why dont you run "gksu bat"?
[06:28] <chubboes> connection fails
[06:28] <bekks> Can you please provide full error messages, not just parts of them?
[06:28] <chubboes> okay hold on------
[06:29] <bekks> chubboes: We need to know exactly what you are doing, and we need full error messages, as I already meantioned. :)
[06:31] <chubboes> bekks: bat ABORTING due to ERROR in console.cpp:157 Failed to connect to (computers name) then for populateLists
[06:32] <chubboes> other one is
[06:32] <chubboes> bat: cannot connect to X server :0
[06:35] <Guest2493> W:Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found , W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] , W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/restricted/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] , W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/univ
[06:35] <Guest2493> can anybody help me with this
[06:36] <rww> Guest2493: Are you running Ubuntu 11.04?
[06:36] <Guest2493> yes
[06:36] <rww> If so, it's End of Life and its repositories thus got moved.
[06:36] <rww> !eolupgrades
[06:37] <Guest2493> thanks
[06:47] <apickle> So
[06:47] <apickle> I created another user account for my bro
[06:47] <apickle> How do I give him sudo privileges?
[06:47] <apickle> Under HIS account?
[06:48] <sillopotatis> Give him the sudo password
[06:48] <SchrodingersScat> I think you can either add him to /etc/sudoers or a group with sudo privileges
[06:48] <SchrodingersScat> could be called sudoers?
[06:50] <redeleven> What is the command in Lubuntu that I would use to update the entire system?
[06:52] <apickle> I thought there was a nice and easy command to do it in 14.04...
[06:52] <Mrokii> Hello. I've been using an SD-card (from my camera) for a long time without problems. But a few days ago, when I insert the card in the reader, it isn't mounted automatically anymore (I need to click its entry in a filewindow). Also I'm always asked my admin-password to mount and dismount it. And today I noticed that the card is mounted as read-only (not sure if both things happened at the same time). Any
[06:52] <Mrokii> thoughts?
[06:55] <chaosbringer> Hello all. I'm having a few issues trying to install ubuntu 14.04 due to EFI / Bios issues
[06:56] <chaosbringer> First, how do I make sure that I delete all bios/gpt partitions on my drives as to "reset" them?
[06:56] <chaosbringer> Something similar to dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1
[07:01] <Stoneer> exit
[07:07] <tyteen4a03> is it possible to convert a MBT disk with Windows on it to a GPT one without data loss on an ubuntu livecd?
[07:20] <ga_sk8er> ok i  got 1 small question
[07:20] <ga_sk8er> i just installed ubuntu 14.4 & as im waiting for a program to install, my screen went blank so i  mived mouse around. it asked for password. how do i  turn off that feature?
[07:23] <ga_sk8er> really? over 1000 ppl & nobody can answer?
[07:24] <cfhowlett> !patience | ga_sk8er,
[07:24] <cfhowlett> ga_sk8er, for instant answers, pay for canonical support.  otherwise, patience + the volunteers in this channel.
[07:25] <ga_sk8er> pay for support? forget that
[07:25] <PENGYU> @ga_sk8er
[07:25] <PENGYU> did u do the update?
[07:25] <PENGYU> and activate the drive?
[07:27] <ga_sk8er> google was cheaper....was in the settings & then "brightness & lock"
[07:28] <ga_sk8er> i just installed ubuntu tonight so i figured it was some default power setting just like in windows
[07:29] <PENGYU> ya and but there is almost nothing to be configured....
[07:30] <ga_sk8er> yeah
[07:30] <ga_sk8er> i knew what my issue was. i just didnt know where the setting was
[07:31] <PENGYU> u wanna set up what?
[07:31] <PENGYU> what is ur issue then
[07:32] <ga_sk8er> after a few mins of inactivity my screen went blank. then when i  moved my mouse it wanted my password again. i  set it to never go blank
[07:34] <PENGYU> does it work then?
[07:35] <PENGYU> just go setting- brightness and lock
[07:35] <ga_sk8er> yeah i googled & figured out where it was
[07:36] <PENGYU> k...
[07:38] <ga_sk8er> whats a good app to use for webcam?
[07:38] <cfhowlett> ga_sk8er, cheese
[07:38] <cfhowlett> !cheese
[07:39] <cfhowlett> !info cheese
[07:39] <ga_sk8er> ok i remmber back in ubuntu 12 i  used some kind of cheese program but back then my cam wasnt recognized by ubuntu
[07:40] <cfhowlett> ga_sk8er, guvcview is also well-regarded
[07:41] <ga_sk8er> oh awesome!!!!! the cam i  have now works on linux :D :D :D
[07:42] <TaZeR> cool now ur a sexy
[07:46] <zezey> omg omg omg
[07:47] <cfhowlett> zezey, ask your ubuntu questions
[07:47] <zezey> it's alive!  ubuntu running on virtual machine!
[07:50] <dyn> hi,everybody
[07:50] <ga_sk8er> so its a virtual ubuntu....a "vubuntu" ? lol
[07:52] <dyn> where can find the best tutorial for the usage of command line irc client?
[07:52] <cfhowlett> !irc | dyn,
[07:52] <cfhowlett> dyn, pretty sure irssi (irrsi?) has a tutorial
[07:52] <eanyx> hi
[07:53] <cfhowlett> eanyx, ask your ubuntu questions
[07:54] <eanyx> Did anyone know why ubuntu 14.04 can't resume properly on laptop HP pavillon when closing ?
[07:55] <eanyx> The disk seems to turn on, but black screen and cannot login. must do a forced power off and restart
[07:57] <LapJup> will this wireless mouse work in ubuntu? http://www.staples.com/Dell-WM123-Optical-Mouse-Aqua/product_1198192?cmArea=home_box1
[07:58] <eanyx> Another point why ubuntu 14.04 use a 3.13 kernel for it LTS (long term support) as official linux kernel (kernel.org) for long term are 3.12 and 3.14
[07:59] <ThePadawan> looking for a very lightweight ubuntu distro (was think about peppermint, bodhi). Only need a gui to maintain a dev folder that would be a pita to do over cli (because it haves quite complex structure)
[07:59] <cfhowlett> LapJup best way: go to your local staples store with your ubuntu machine/USB and test it
[07:59] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | ThePadawan,
[08:00] <cfhowlett> !mini | ThePadawan,
[08:00] <dyn> how set gnome2 as the default desktop environment?
[08:01] <dyn> I love the gnome2 environment
[08:01] <cfhowlett> !gnome | dyn,
[08:02] <dyn> I do this ,but it seems that it is the gnome3 environment
[08:03] <wligtenberg> @dyn then have a look at mate
[08:03] <wligtenberg> @dyn then have a look at mate ubuntu-mate might be right for you, but is in development
[08:03] <Node_3> Good morning
[08:03] <wligtenberg> good morning
[08:04] <cfhowlett> wligupdate ! ubuntu_mate?  really?  an official distro or what?  Link?
[08:04] <dyn> mate2? is it stable?
[08:04] <Nordom> Hello, I just finished my first kernel compile and got an error at the end dealing with the make. Can someone help me understand what the error means?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> !kernel > nordom
[08:04] <dyn> @wligtenberg
[08:05] <Nordom> cfhowlett: really wasn't the answer to my problem =(
[08:07] <Node_3> I'm a little bit lost as to how X handles mouse pointers; specifically the relation between the master pointer and slave pointer and also the virtual pointing device and the actual hardware device and I'm looking for some documentation that will give me a good overview of how this system works
[08:08] <BlaXpirit> I want to create a bootable install USB drive. Will `sudo dd if=file.iso of=/dev/sdX` work?
[08:08] <BlaXpirit> talking about Ubuntu 14.04 desktop iso
[08:10] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: Yeah but add bs=4M
[08:10] <mindstorm> and sync
[08:10] <BlaXpirit> OK, thank you
[08:11] <dyn> does anybody has successfully install ubuntu on a x86 based tablet?
[08:12] <cfhowlett> !touch | dyn,
[08:13] <Node_3> Out of curiousity, has anyone here tried Weyland yet?
[08:15] <dyn> thanks @ubottu
[08:17] <edition> Wayland
[08:17] <Mint_lovers> Hello everyone
[08:17] <cfhowlett> Mint_lovers, ask your UBUNTU questions
[08:18] <cfhowlett> !info wayland > edition,
[08:18] <Mint_lovers> I am a novice
[08:19] <BlaXpirit> If one OS is already present on my computer, with GRUB as well, how can I make Ubuntu just "add" itself to GRUB and not take over as the boot partition?
[08:19] <Mint_destroyer> ok
[08:19] <cfhowlett> BlaXpirit, sudo update grub IIRC
[08:20] <helmut_> hi
[08:20] <BlaXpirit> cfhowlett, what does that mean and when do I do it and on which OS?
[08:20] <cfhowlett> !grub > BlaXpirit
[08:20] <Mint_lovers> I came in with translation software
[08:20] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: If both operating systems are using Grub they should both detect eachother. The only difference will likely be which operating system comes first in the list, but that can be changed later.
[08:20] <cfhowlett> Mint_lovers, ask your questions
[08:21] <chubboes> !libvirtd
[08:21] <BlaXpirit> Node_3, I just want Ubuntu to not override the existing GRUB
[08:22] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: I'm not sure how to do that in a regular install process. What I would do is to install Ubuntu as usual
[08:22] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: let it overwrite Grub and then boot into the old operating system and just run sudo update grub to have the old system overwrite the new one
[08:22] <BlaXpirit> but it's different partitions..? how does that even work
[08:23] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: Grub is installed on the bootsector
[08:23] <chubboes> !14.10
[08:23] <BlaXpirit> OK, kinda makes sense. thx
[08:23] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: or the EFI partition depending on your computer
[08:23] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: So it's installed in the same place for any operating system, you will not have duplicates
[08:23] <Mint_lovers> Ubuntu Mint how to install sougouPinyin on
[08:23] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: Atleast not with the same bootloader. If you have other bootloaders they will still be there though
[08:24] <BlaXpirit> well no, I don't think it is installed in boot sector, maybe just a pointer to the actual location, which is on an actual partition
[08:24] <chubboes> !sougouPinyin
[08:24] <geirha> BlaXpirit: tell the second install to not install a boot loader. Then boot into the first ubuntu and run update-grub. It should now detect both ubuntu installs
[08:24] <BlaXpirit> geirha, I like this suggestion more. was coming to that conclusion myself, but wasn't sure it would work. thank you.
[08:24] <chubboes> !pinyin
[08:24] <Guest94547> hi why ubuntu installer cant access my hdd ( otherwise i cant mount on doubleklick)
[08:25] <cfhowlett> !cn | chubboes,
[08:25] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: Geirha's suggestion does sound better. I didn't know Ubuntu offered the option to not install a boot loader
[08:25] <geirha> Node_3: Been a while since I've installed Ubuntu now, but it used to be on one of the last step, under an "Advanced" button
[08:26] <geirha> where you can specify which drive or partition to install grub on, or none at all
[08:26] <Node_3> geirha: Hmm. I didn't see any option like this installing 14.04
[08:27] <BlaXpirit> gonna try
[08:27] <BlaXpirit> either way it should be exactly the same actions
[08:28] <cfhowlett> Node_3, if you do the auto-install option, I don't think it shows.  If you manually configure ...
[08:29] <Node_3> cfhowlett: Ah
[08:30] <ubuNoobNe> hi why ubuntu installer cant access my hdd ( and i cant mount on doubleklick)
[08:30] <Node_3> I haven't used Linux in a very long time. I used to run obsd years ago
[08:30] <Node_3> I must say that I'm quite impressed with ubuntu.
[08:31] <ircguest192492> hello all, when using mdadm, do you apply raid before installing with the livecd or after? (I've been doing it before and my linear "raid" is not persisting)
[08:32] <ircguest192492> hello all, when using mdadm, do you apply raid before installing with the livecd or after? (I've been doing it before and my linear "raid" is not persisting)
[08:32] <bekks> ircguest192492: you have to create it during the installaing from the server iso.
[08:32] <ircguest192492> kk, thanks!
[08:34] <redeleven> Does anyone know of a chromebook that would allow me to install Ubuntu onto it?
[08:34] <astroduck> Hi! My nautilus keeps on toggling show hidden files and list/grid view randomly. Any fix for that?
[08:35] <cfhowlett> redeleven,   look up chromebuntu   chromebuntu
[08:37] <Node_3> I'm having a problem with the mouse cursor skipping pixels in both y and x axis on a Synaptics touchpad. I've tried to use synaptics noise cancellation and to disable pad resolution and to increase psmouse polling rate/resolution and to disable hw cursor but it doesn't solve the issue
[08:38] <Node_3> Is there another driver I can use?
[08:40] <ircguest2948> Btw, the ubuntu-server install doesn't support linear RAID
[08:40] <ircguest2948> like mdadm does, only raid 0 through raid 6
[08:40] <Mrokii> Hello. I've been using an SD-card (from my camera) for a long time without problems. But a few days ago, when I insert the card in the reader, it isn't mounted automatically anymore (I need to click its entry in a filewindow). Also I'm always asked my admin-password to mount and dismount it. And today I noticed that the card is mounted as read-only (not sure if both things happened at the same time). Any
[08:40] <Mrokii> thoughts?
[08:40] <mustu> hi, I'm tryign to install a downloaded .deb file with software-center but software center starts downloading the deb file again instead of installing from the deb on disk
[08:42] <Node_3> Mrokii, Sounds like the filesystem might be damaged
[08:42] <ircguest2948> So, is there no way to have linear raid (like mdadm has) using ubuntu prior to installation? (It goes away after a reboot when using the livecd)
[08:43] <Mrokii> Node_3: The filesystem on the SD card?
[08:43] <Node_3> Mrokii: Yeah.
[08:44] <Node_3> Mrokii: What filesystem do you use on it?
[08:45] <Mrokii> Node_3: I can reformat the card but I don't see why that would stop Ubuntu from mounting it automatically. I don't know about the filesystem on the SD-card. I never changed it, I'm just using it in my camera.
[08:46] <Node_3> Mrokii: Then it's most likely fat32. You shouldn't have to reformat it
[08:46] <ircguest2948> Any ideas to persist mdadm linear "raid" when installing the system using a live cd??
[08:47] <bekks> ircguest2948: Create the raid usong the server iso, during the installation. And what is a "linear raid"?
[08:47] <Mrokii> Node_3: I thought so. Never had that problem before I think, and no clue why Ubuntu suddenly changed its behaviour.
[08:47] <Node_3> Mrokii: try running sudo dosfsck -w -r -l -a -v -t /dev/whatever-device-your-sd-card-has
[08:47] <ircguest2948> bekks, https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_setup#Linear_mode
[08:48] <Node_3> Mrokii: You may have to install dosfstools first, (sudo apt-get install dosfstools)
[08:48] <Mrokii> Node_3: Okay, I'll try that, thanks.
[08:48] <bekks> ircguest2948: Ah, thats a JBOD in fact. :)
[08:48] <Node_3> Mrokii: It's the equivalent of chkdsk in Windows. Good for sd cards and pen drives that tend to run fat32 and get some damage when it's ejected improperly
[08:49] <ircguest2948> yes
[08:49] <ircguest2948> JBOD
[08:49] <bekks> ircguest2948: "linear mode" is just a functionality, in case you want that, better use LVM.
[08:49] <bekks> Create multiple physical volumes for LVM, add them to the same Volume Group, done.
[08:49] <ircguest2948> well, i want to specify where each thing goes, (I have an SSD which I want the OS to be installed to)
[08:50] <bekks> ircguest2948: And using LVM thats possible, too.
[08:50] <ircguest2948> and /home /var /opt /<custom> into the linear array
[08:50] <bekks> ircguest2948: USe LVM instead.
[08:50] <ircguest2948> Any guide on how to do that for 14.04?
[08:50] <ircguest2948> how complicated?
[08:51] <ircguest2948> I had searched for a decent LVM guide but it all seemed like you had to install and configure after the fact or such thing
[08:51] <bekks> ircguest2948: Much more easy than dealing with RAID. Bott the server iso, create physical volumes for LVM in the partitioning section, create one volume group, create logical volumes, and then just assign the volumes to the filesystems.
[08:51] <ircguest2948> there's also no options for doing so on the 14.04 Ubuntu Gnome CD
[08:51] <ircguest2948> i dled the server cd now
[08:51] <cfhowlett> !lvm
[08:52] <bekks> ircguest2948: thats why I suggested to use teh server iso.
[08:53] <ircguest2948> Kk,
[08:53] <ircguest2948> will reinstall now. be back if any issue
[08:53] <ircguest2948> thanks
[08:53] <Mrokii> Node_3: the command you gave didn't show anything useful (not much at all). I formatted the card but that didn't change anything either). Doesn't matter too much, the card still works as usual in the camera, it's only "read-only" in Ubuntu, so not too much of a problem. Thanks anyway.
[08:56] <imacat> why is the ubuntu window so tiny when running virtualbox on a win8.1 dell laptop?
[08:56] <imacat> i upped the video memory to 64megs
[08:57] <eeee_> imacat: ctrl+f for full screen i think
[08:57] <imacat> that's not it... the screen size doesn't change
[08:57] <imacat> it's like less than 640x480
[08:57] <eeee_> right control
[08:57] <eeee_> (not left)
[08:58] <eeee_> ah ok, i get it
[08:59] <eeee_> maybe change the resolution in the display setting's?
[09:00] <ircguest2948> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/120242/using-lvm-with-ssd-and-sata-drives
[09:01] <dar_> dfd
[09:02] <ircguest2948> bekks: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/120242/using-lvm-with-ssd-and-sata-drives
[09:02] <imacat> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.    He would "play the bongos" on my ass..
[09:02] <imacat> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass...
[09:02] <imacat> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass....
[09:02] <imacat> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.....
[09:02] <imacat> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass......
[09:02] <unopaste> imacat you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:02] <cfhowlett> !ops | imacat,
[09:03] <bekks> ircguest2948: It is a matter of fact that you can specify the physical device where to logical volume will be created. This applies to "lvcreate".
[09:03] <ircguest2948> So I would need two logical volumes
[09:03] <ircguest2948> one for / efi swap
[09:04] <ircguest2948> and then another for the rest of the partitions?
[09:04] <ircguest2948> is that common?
[09:04] <ircguest2948> I guess I would only be able to increase the first (ssd volume) by adding ssds and the hdd one by adding hdds
[09:04] <Jinny22>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://j.mp/1ku5xfr
[09:04] <ircguest2948> so I guess that makes sense
[09:04] <ircguest2948> if that's the case
[09:06] <bekks> ircguest2948: you need one partition for /boot/efi, one for /boot, and logical volumes for every other filesystem you want to have.
[09:08] <Node_3> Although not strictly necessary I would suggest making /home its own partition. In any case you need to re-install ubuntu that will save a lot of time.
[09:08] <cfhowlett> agreed but backup the backup as well
[09:09] <ircguest2948> Node_3: I was trying to do the following -- / /boot/efi swap >> SSD | /home /var /opt >> HDD
[09:09] <ircguest2948> i'm reading up on LVM
[09:10] <ircguest2948> but it seems that then the SSD would have one logical volume
[09:10] <ircguest2948> and the 2 HDDs would have 1 logical volume
[09:10] <ircguest2948> with those partitions the way I mentioned
[09:10] <Node_3> ircguest2948: Personally I would put /home as a smaller partition on the ssd and then make a second partition for big files (downloads, video, music, pictures etc.) and mount it inside your home folder
[09:10] <Node_3> ircguest2948: That way you would get the benefit of ssd speeds when reading local settings and cache files
[09:11] <ircguest2948> Makes sense
[09:11] <Node_3> How much memory do you have?
[09:12] <ircguest2948> 32 GB of ram
[09:12] <ircguest2948> DDR3
[09:12] <Node_3> Yeah, skip putting the swap on the ssd
[09:12] <Node_3> Use that space for something else ;)
[09:12] <ircguest2948> I was thinking about not having any swap at all
[09:12] <Node_3> ircguest2948: Although Linux will rarely use it, you should make a swap partition
[09:12] <ircguest2948> but i guess i won't miss 2 gb
[09:12] <ircguest2948> yeah
[09:12] <ircguest2948> that's what I figured
[09:13] <Node_3> But I would make it on the hdd
[09:13] <ircguest2948> Kk, created a boot-usb
[09:13] <Node_3> With 32gig of ram, unless you're doing some extreme stuff, linux shouldn't have to page.. ever
[09:13] <ircguest2948> I do some extreme stuff
[09:13] <Node_3> video editing?
[09:13] <ircguest2948> vagrant + puppet etc
[09:13] <bekks> Node_3: And the swap is used for suspending, too.
[09:13] <ircguest2948> I run networks of VMs for programming purposes
[09:13] <Node_3> bekks: That's true. I almost forgot about that
[09:13] <bekks> Node_3: So if you choose suspend to disk, you need as much swap as RAM.
[09:14] <ircguest2948> Good to know
[09:14] <Node_3> bekks: Yeah
[09:14] <ircguest2948> Didn't know that
[09:14] <ircguest2948> ok so
[09:14] <ircguest2948> 32GB of of swap on HDD LV
[09:14] <Node_3> So as bekks suggested, in any case you're going to suspend the computer you should reserve 32gig for it. If you want to suspend fast I suggest putting it on the SSD if you have space
[09:14] <ircguest2948> Well
[09:15] <ircguest2948> i'm probably going to buy more SSDs in the next months
[09:15] <Node_3> You can use TuxOnIce in order to save some space..
[09:15] <bekks> ircguest2948: Then you can change that setup later on.
[09:15] <ircguest2948> What do you mean
[09:16] <ircguest2948> I'm saying I can probably put everything on the SSD LV and keep the large files on the HDD LV
[09:16] <ircguest2948> would that be best?
[09:16] <bekks> ircguest2948: That you can change your setup if necessary in a few month after buying more SSD.
[09:16] <bekks> ircguest2948: No, thats not best.
[09:17] <ircguest2948> So the 32GB of swap should be on the HDD LV?
[09:17] <bekks> ircguest2948: For a fast suspend no, for saving space on the SSD yes.
[09:17] <ircguest2948> So what would be the best? Is a fast suspend not a good thing?
[09:17] <ircguest2948> I'm not understanding
[09:17] <Node_3> ircguest2948: Yeah, when you're suspending everything in ram would have to be written to your hdd which, with 32gig, would take time
[09:17] <bekks> ircguest2948: It depends on how important things are to you.
[09:18] <ircguest2948> bekks: what is your suggestion
[09:18] <Node_3> ircguest2948: If you put the swap on the ssd, then when you suspend everything in ram will be written to your ssd instead which will make suspending faster
[09:18] <ircguest2948> Node_3: that's what I was thinking as well
[09:18] <Node_3> ircguest2948: Ah then we misread you :)
[09:18] <bekks> ircguest2948: I dont know how important things are to you.
[09:18] <ircguest2948> bekks: seems to disagree
[09:18] <Node_3> ircguest2948: No, he just misread you aswell but he seems to have aspergers or something
[09:18] <ircguest2948> lol
[09:19] <bekks> Node_3: Stop insulting people. Thank you.
[09:19] <Node_3> ircguest2948: Anyways, everything on the ssd is fine and big files on the hdd
[09:19] <Node_3> bekks: You're welcome
[09:19] <Node_3> ircguest2948: swap on the ssd if you want your suspends to be fast, if you don't care about how long it takes to suspend the computer then put the swap on the hdd
[09:19] <ircguest2948> It seems you have the ability to create Primary or Logical volumes using the standard install liveCD
[09:19] <ircguest2948> is that not suggested?
[09:21] <Node_3> ircguest2948: Doesn't matter much these days
[09:26] <Node_3> Anyways, i'm off.
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[09:36] <unopaste> Zooklubba you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:54] <cyclist_2> Hi, there! I had to press the reset button on my laptop and the icon on the workspace that allowed me to switch users, restart and shutdown cleanly has vanished; is there a way to bring it back without a restart? I tried adding it again to the pannel, but it was not there [there're only apps to switch users and to shutdown, but not one to restart...]
[09:55] <mint17> hello all
[09:55] <reversiblean> Let's say i updated bunch of packages from external PPAs and i no longer remember their ppa names or do not have them on the apt-sources, how do i use ppa-purge or downgrade those packages to the default ones?
[09:56] <reversiblean> Is there way i could list/find the non-default/external packages?
[09:57] <mint17> ok if no one helps i`l fly away
[09:57] <mint17> :)
[10:05] <Edico> hi
[10:05] <NorCalRob> hi
[10:07] <Edico> I remained without space on my rood directory. I don't know what occupy my space, I have /home on separate partition. I see that /usr/src has 1.5 GB with linux-headers*
[10:08] <Edico> should I remove linux-headers of the other versions than I use with rm command or is there a tool do do that?
[10:09] <cfhowlett> Edico, first sudo apt-get autoclean
[10:10] <cyclist_2> Edico: you do not need to keep all linux-headers acquired from previous updates; they take quite a bit of space on th HD
[10:11] <cyclist_2> Edico: but be sure to keep the last 2 or 3, just in case the last one breaks something...
[10:14] <absk007> Edico, you probably run many things being root
[10:15] <absk007> check "ls -A /root"
[10:16] <Edico> absk007, no, I don't run things as root, just with the user created
[10:17] <absk007> hmm.. then it's complicated
[10:17] <absk007> apt-get autoclean doesn't clean /root. It cleans /var/cache/archives
[10:17] <absk007> ^/var/cache/apt/archives
[10:19] <Edico> I removed /usr/src/linux-headers* I don't use
[10:19] <Edico> I have enough space now
[10:19] <cfhowlett> absk007, apt-get autoremove is also good for the occasional spring cleaning
[10:19] <linuxuz3r> apt-get autoremove
[10:20] <absk007> but doesn't clean /root i suppose
[10:20] <cfhowlett> absk007, nope.  command man apt        will tell you all about apt options
[10:21] <Edico> thank you very much to all
[10:22] <absk007> Edico, all clear?
[10:23] <absk007> cfhowlett, autoremove is used to remove packages that were automatically
[10:23] <absk007> installed to satisfy dependencies for some package and that are no
[10:23] <absk007> more needed.
[10:24] <absk007> where does the dependencies get installed?
[10:24] <Edico> yes, I did that also
[10:24] <cfhowlett> absk007, depends. get installed all over ...
[10:24] <absk007> don't they get installed to /usr/bin & /usr/lib?
[10:25] <absk007> how to see disk analysis from terminal?
[10:29] <linuxuz3r> absk007, what do you mean by disk analysis
[10:29] <niop> hi, how to include multiple ip addresses on the same host in ssh file?
[10:29] <niop> repeat the host spec for each ip?
[10:30] <absk007> linuxuz3r, folder wise size recursively
[10:30] <niop> as in repeat this?:
[10:30] <niop> Host nas01
[10:30] <niop>      HostName <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:30] <niop>      User root
[10:30] <niop>      IdentityFile ~/.ssh/nas01.key
[10:31] <linuxuz3r> absk007, du -h
[10:32] <absk007> duh??
[10:32] <linuxuz3r> i thought you meant disk performance
[10:32] <linuxuz3r> du -h
[10:32] <absk007> yeah! got that. duh??
[10:32] <absk007> :)
[10:33] <akyros> silly
[10:35] <davidga> hi  all
[10:35] <davidga> i have an asus x551
[10:35] <davidga> and wanted to try ubuntu
[10:35] <davidga> i get a kernel panic when trying to start ubuntu
[10:35] <davidga> what can i do in this issue
[10:36] <linuxuz3r> use a livecd
[10:36] <davidga> i have a live usb
[10:36] <davidga> created by rufus
[10:36] <cfhowlett> davidga, who the heck is rufuf??!
[10:36] <davidga> they guy who sold me the computer told me that it is an uefi machine
[10:36] <davidga> http://rufus.akeo.ie/
[10:37] <davidga> it has no bios
[10:37] <davidga> he told me that i should create the live usb with rufus
[10:37] <cfhowlett> davidga, never heard of that tool - and I've been using ubuntu since 2007.
[10:37] <davidga> i downloaded the LTS
[10:38] <Irbur> how does a computer have no bios?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> davidga, did you verify the ISO?
[10:38] <davidga> how do i verify it ?
[10:38] <lilstevie> Irbur, UEFI is technically firmware not BIOS ;)
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | david
[10:38] <lilstevie> and isn't legacy bios which is what most people refer to ;)
[10:39] <Irbur> oh, sorry, thanks!
[10:39] <linuxuz3r> so ubuntu doesnt work with uefi
[10:39] <linuxuz3r> ?
[10:39] <linuxuz3r> !uefi
[10:39] <lilstevie> linuxuz3r, ubuntu works just fine with uefi :p
[10:40] <linuxuz3r> ok
[10:40] <Irbur> My computer is UEFI, it works fine!
[10:40] <Pencil_> I click on my home folder on the panel and nothing happens.  Can someone tell me what's broken?
[10:41] <linuxuz3r> ok
[10:41] <linuxuz3r> ok thanks guys
[10:41] <linuxuz3r> im out
[10:42] <davidga> i downloaded and it told that md5 checksum is different
[10:42] <davidga> so i assume that there was a download error
[10:42] <cfhowlett> davidga, bad ISO = bad installation
[10:42] <davidga> is this correct?
[10:42] <davidga> this was stupid easy
[10:42] <cfhowlett> davidga, correct.  download with torrent usually is more reliable method
[10:43] <davidga> thanks a lot from saving me dumping the
[10:43] <davidga> thanks a lot
[10:43] <cfhowlett> davidga happy2help
[10:44] <Kira9204> i just realized, why does no browser come with torrent aupport o.o
[10:44] <cfhowlett> Kira9204, cuz it's stupid easy to add
[10:44] <brotherBox> Kira9204: how would that even work?
[10:45] <elf_> ping
[10:45] <cfhowlett> !test | elf_,
[10:45] <serviscope_minor> hi
[10:46] <serviscope_minor> Just installed ubuntu 14.04, with XFCE. It's mostly a success, but I have a few minor problems.
[10:47] <serviscope_minor> 1. Doesn't respond to the sleep button or lid close. If I send the right dbus invocation from the shell, it does indeed sleep so that works. Not sure how to go about debugging that.
[10:47] <akyros> serviscope_minor, have you tried LXLE? - over the past couple of years I went through a few light-weight Linux distros to run on my old laptop (mist Ubuntu / Debian derivatives)
[10:47] <serviscope_minor> 2. The icon for nm-applet doesn't appear in the system tray, even if I use a separate standalone tray like stalonetray.
[10:47] <Kira9204> cfhowlett: yes, but if you think from a users perspective they will always go the easy route that works out of the box
[10:48] <serviscope_minor> akyros: it's regular standard ubuntu.
[10:48] <serviscope_minor> I just happen to prefer XFCE to unity
[10:48] <Kira9204> guess why IE has such market share on Windows? Becuse its already there and default
[10:48] <serviscope_minor> 3. It's now stuck on US keyboard. I can do the right xkb invocation from the shell as before, but doesn't seem optimal.
[10:49] <serviscope_minor> 2 is th most annoying since the workarounds are substantially more of a pain than the other two.
[10:49] <serviscope_minor> Any ideas on where to look at fixing these?
[10:49] <akyros> serviscope_minor, Heh I did that too for a while after Unity was introduced as default instead of Gnome2 on my fast (desktop) box but ended up just switching to KDE/Kubuntu - too many things to tweak in XFCE to make it work to my liking
[10:49] <serviscope_minor> akyros: it's only a few years old. i5 of a decent speed, and 4G ram.
[10:50] <serviscope_minor> akyros: well, this isn't actually for me. It's for a friend. Personally, I prefer FVWM2, but I'm old-fashioned like that.
[10:50] <serviscope_minor> but nonethelessit ought to work. I'm fairly sure 2 would be a problem on FVWM as well, since nm-applet seems busted, not XFCE in this case.
[10:52] <darksider> hi guys, i'm facing a very strange issue. I'm mounting a network share using cifs in fstab and it works, but when I try to do the same thing using the mount command (with the same options) I get access denied