[06:37] <chovynz> how do i count the number of files that FIND finds?
[06:37] <somsip> chovynz: find {pattern} | wc -l
[06:39] <osteenbergen> chovynz, what are you building?
[06:39] <kieppie> ?release
[06:39] <kieppie> !release
[06:39] <chovynz> osteenbergen: a monument to my insanity
[06:40] <kieppie> ETA on 12.10 release? already 19:40 here in NZ
[06:40] <somsip> !isitout | kieppie
[06:40] <kieppie> somsip cheers
[06:40] <jagginess> find -type f |wc -l
[06:41] <osteenbergen> chovynz, insanity can be done in a few characters: ":(){ :|: & };:" (Do not try at home warning)
[06:44] <chovynz> nano .bash_aliases doesnt seem ti work. what am i missing?
[06:44] <chovynz> *to. excuse typos. sleeping baby on arm
[06:44] <somsip> chovynz: after addnig then, do 'source ~/.bash_aliases'
[06:44] <lestus> @osteenbergen do i have to be insane to get it?
[06:45] <osteenbergen> lestus, thats a fork bomb ;) brings your pc to a halt by spawning processes of itself
[06:45] <alien2050> is there a way to exit the live cd without ejecting the cd drive?
[06:45] <somsip> !danger | osteenbergen
[06:46] <osteenbergen> somsip, i already had a do not try at home warning ;)
[06:46] <chovynz> somsip: -bash: alias: list: not found
[06:46] <somsip> osteenbergen: don't post it at all please
[06:46] <lestus> wow epic, and how do i reply to you in highlight?
[06:46] <Kartagis> alien2050: no
[06:46] <osteenbergen> sorry will do :)
[06:46] <somsip> chovynz: post your .bash_aliases in pastebin
[06:48] <wachpwnski> you can fork processes of self with that command osteenbergen?
[06:48] <wachpwnski> PM me an explanation of the syntax.
[06:49] <osteenbergen> wachpwnski, just google it ;)
[06:49] <jcrza> fork bomb eh
[06:49] <jcrza> I'm really tempted to run it
[06:49] <chovynz> somsip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286445/ It had a space in it, and I forgot that spaces are forbidden in commands. I fixed that, now, nothing happens, no error and no message.
[06:49] <Kartagis> what are pros and cons of lvm over extx/reiserfs?
[06:49] <jcrza> I've always heard of it
[06:49] <lestus> trololololo
[06:49] <osteenbergen> there is an exelent wikipedia article on it
[06:49] <jcrza> ... how quickly would it anhialate my computer?
[06:49] <lestus> instantly
[06:49] <jcrza> ...
[06:49] <lestus> in human eyes
[06:49] <jcrza> I just put it in terminal?
[06:50] <lestus> or milliseconds
[06:50] <jcrza> I really.. can't resist
[06:50] <lestus> LOL
[06:50] <osteenbergen> chovynz, remove the = after the echo
[06:50] <somsip> chovynz: syntax error, try alias hello='echo hello world'
[06:50] <overclucker> Kartagis: you mean lvm vs. primary and extended partitions?
[06:50] <somsip> chovynz: syntax error, try alias listspaces='echo hello world'
[06:51] <Kartagis> overclucker: lvm over filesystems
[06:51] <chovynz> nothing still. im going to man echo
[06:52] <osteenbergen> chovynz, works for me: alias test='echo "Hello World!"'
[06:52] <wachpwnski> That is actually pretty funny.
[06:52] <somsip> chovynz: in a terminal type "alias test='echo hello world'"
[06:52] <somsip> chovynz: then type "test" and it will run the echo
[06:52] <jcrza> wow, you weren't kidding
[06:53] <dman7> My audio jack does not work in Ubuntu. I have dual boot and tested it in Windows; works perfectly. The speakers play with no problem; it's the audio jack. Any pointers?
[06:53] <jcrza> that ... worked really well
[06:53] <overclucker> Kartagis: I'm not exactly sure what you mean. lvm volumes still need a filesystem.
[06:53] <jcrza> Took like 5 seconds and my mouse stopped moving.
[06:53] <jcrza> that's so cool.
[06:53] <actionParsnip> dman7: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[06:53] <somsip> osteenbergen: now do you see?
[06:53] <Kartagis> overclucker: hmm, what are pros and cons of lvm volumes then?
[06:54] <osteenbergen> somsip, my humble apologies
[06:55]  * chovynz is puzzled, it's doing something but what I dont know. I have both of yours in there with separate lines and separate words to test each type, and it's still no echoing
[06:55] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: looks interesting: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/whatisvolman.html
[06:55] <jcrza> Is there a windows equivalent to that fork bomb code?
[06:55] <dman7> actionParsnip: neat tool. Info located here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=d693cc0110cd581c358f0338f0d48efda1574a99
[06:55] <actionParsnip> jcrza: probably, ask in ##windows
[06:55] <chovynz> ok, now it is working.
[06:55] <dman7> What should I be looking for?
[06:56] <actionParsnip> dman7: thanks, let me search
[06:56] <chovynz> where is aliases stored? I think im putting them in the incorrect file
[06:56] <actionParsnip> dman7: try:   echo "options snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[06:56] <actionParsnip> dman7: reboot to test
[06:57] <overclucker> Kartagis: the biggest pro is that volume groups can have multiple physical volumes, and so span multiple disks.
[06:57] <somsip> chovynz: you can put them anywhere but ~/.bash_aliases is run automatically when you login so they're ready for use
[06:59] <actionParsnip> dman7: if it's no good I have an alternative line you can use, but we'll see if that flys
[06:59] <overclucker> Kartagis: the biggest con is that if you use any otehr bootloader than grub2, you cant boot off lvm, but require a separate boot partition.
[07:00] <alien2050> it is possible to do it I found it
[07:00] <Kartagis> thanks overclucker
[07:01] <chovynz> somsip where does alias command from terminal get stored?
[07:01] <somsip> chovynz: not sure. It probably has scope in that terminal session and that's all
[07:01] <chovynz> somsip: I'm ssh'ed to my home server
[07:02] <somsip> chovynz: same answer applies
[07:02] <chovynz> could it be printing the echos on my server monitor instead of my ssh window?
[07:02] <somsip> chovynz: no
[07:02] <TJ-> chovynz: Add the aliases to "~/.bash_aliases" then do ". ~/bash_aliases"
[07:03] <TJ-> chovynz: the dot "." command in bash is the same as "source" which reads a file into the bash interpreter. You could also do "source ~/.bash_aliases"
[07:04] <somsip> TJ-: for now he can't get any aliases working at all, even: somsip> chovynz: in a terminal type "alias test='echo hello world'"
[07:04] <chovynz> somsip: that one worked
[07:04] <somsip> chovynz: I stand corrected
[07:04] <chovynz> somsip: but its the exact same syntax that is in the .bash_aliases file I created.
[07:05] <chovynz> somsip: and when I run the other commands, it recognises the command but doesnt echo
[07:05] <somsip> chovynz: the one you posted was not the same. that had 'echo='Hello world' in it
[07:05] <chovynz> somsip: I made the syntax the same as yours
[07:05] <somsip> chovynz: can you repast it?
[07:05] <chovynz> will do
[07:06] <actionParsnip> chovynz: put it in ~/.bashrc   there are other aliases defines there too
[07:06] <Eagleman> Where do i see which app uses fe80::2c96:5de2:12b5:c18b ?
[07:07] <Eagleman> The IPV6 apipa address
[07:07] <wachpwnski> Is there a way to explicitly declare what device I want to install grub on?
[07:07] <actionParsnip> chovynz: to apply the new change, run:   source ~/.bashrc
[07:07] <actionParsnip> wachpwnski: yes, use:  sudo grub-install /dev/whateveryouwant
[07:07] <dman7> actionParsnip: just rebooted; that did not work.
[07:08] <actionParsnip> dman7: ok, run:   gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    change the last line's model to:  model=generic    instead of:  model=thinkpad     save the new file and reboot
[07:11] <chovynz> somsip: TJ- actionParsnip : thanks for the helps. I'm a doofus. I forgot to source the ~/.bash_aliases
[07:11] <actionParsnip> chovynz: yes ;) or you can close the terminal and reopen it, same deal
[07:11] <actionParsnip> chovynz: makes the file be reread :)
[07:13] <chovynz> somsip: FYI http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286472/ test3 is yours renamed.
[07:13] <Eagleman> Where do i see which app uses fe80::2c96:5de2:12b5:c18b ?
[07:13] <somsip> chovynz: k - so the basics are working now, so you need to just get some helpful aliases in there
[07:13] <chovynz> somsip: yeah thanks :)
[07:15] <chovynz> but still, where does the alias command store things? It seems to be in a different file
[07:16] <somsip> chovynz: no idea. It works. Good enough for me
[07:16] <dman7> actionParsnip: awesome, it worked! Thanks.
[07:17] <dman7> What's the reasoning behind setting model=generic, btw?
[07:17] <scroduck> hello, i fixed nvidio zotac geforce 210 in my computer, but its not working on ubuntu 11.04. how do i make the graphics card work?
[07:17] <Odd-rationale> chovynz: I believe aliases are stored within the bash environment
[07:17] <actionParsnip> dman7: the default is model=generic   some sound chips need to be told to load the module differently
[07:18] <actionParsnip> scroduck: why bother. Natty is dead in less than 2 weeks. I don't suggest you waste any time on Natty
[07:19] <actionParsnip> dman7: the line you added simply tells the OS to use that option by default when it's loaded. The other .conf files in the same folder give options for other modules and a few other things too
[07:19] <dman7> hmm, looking through the alsa-project url I sent you earlier, it appears that I didn't have that set to anything.
[07:19] <Eagleman> Where do i see which app uses fe80::2c96:5de2:12b5:c18b ?
[07:19] <dman7> ok that makes sense. Thanks again, actionParsnip!
[07:19] <actionParsnip> dman7: well, nothing more than default, which is attempt to auto detect, which wasn't working, so you told it what to use :)
[07:20] <dman7> yeah
[07:20] <linelevel> Empty room?
[07:21] <actionParsnip> linelevel: not quite
[07:21] <actionParsnip> Eagleman: netstat -a     maybe
[07:24] <arvindh> \passwd @Admin123
[07:24] <Adie> :/
[07:24] <actionParsnip> Adie: time for a pass change? ;)
[07:24] <jakeR333> how to disable  IEEE 802.3 SNAP in ubuntu ?
[07:24] <jakeR333> in windows it's easy
[07:24] <jakeR333> TCP/IP feature
[07:25] <jakeR333> ipv4 i think
[07:25] <linelevel> I have an external 1.5GB hdd with a single ext4 partition. Usually Ubuntu detects and automounts it. Starting today, I can see it in Disk Utility, but it doesn't mount. I ran an extensive scan on it in Disk Utility, and it came back as "Disk has a few bad sectors" (there are 10 bad sectors), and 2 warnings (reallocated sector count, airflow temperature), but it says it "passed" the self-assessment.
[07:26] <linelevel> Can anyone help me by suggesting how to troubleshoot this issue further?
[07:26] <jcrza> your disk is dying
[07:26] <jcrza> make your time
[07:26] <Eagleman> actionParsnip  http://pastebin.com/cfBFk2xK
[07:27] <actionParsnip> linelevel: when you last unplugged it, did you safely remove it, or just yank it out?
[07:27] <jcrza> You could try getting a HD just like it and swapping out the board, I've done it before, it works sometimes
[07:27] <linelevel> If it were already dead, why would it pass the self assessment?
[07:27] <linelevel> actionParsnip: I only yank without ejecting if it's asleep (not spinning).
[07:27] <scroduck> SO
[07:28] <scroduck> actionParsnip: my computer crashed
[07:28] <jcrza> I said dying, not dead
[07:28] <scroduck> i cannot upgrade right now
[07:28] <scroduck> now is there any way to do something :(
[07:28] <jcrza> Honestly it could be nothing, maybe some shit just happened and you lost some of your re-allocatable sectors
[07:28] <linelevel> jcrza: Well if it's not dead, shouldn't there be a way I can use it to access my data?
[07:28] <jcrza> It could be the HD starting to fail, so I'd be wary
[07:28] <linelevel> jcrza: The problem is that it doesn't mount.
[07:28] <actionParsnip> linelevel: it still needs unmounting properly
[07:28] <jcrza> I've had disks have sectors go bad and still work for a while
[07:29] <linelevel> actionParsnip: I have restarted my computer since then.
[07:29] <jcrza> and I've had them fail the next day, I'd follow whoevers advice will get you mountable again and abandon that disk
[07:29] <actionParsnip> linelevel: caaches ned syncing and the OS needs to forget the device before it can be physically removed
[07:30] <actionParsnip> linelevel: If you have bad sectors then the device is dying, probably due to not being unmouted correctly or other things
[07:30] <actionParsnip> linelevel: it's only 1.5Gb so no huge loss really (didn't know they made 1.5Gb drive that span)
[07:31] <linelevel> actionParsnip: I have never pulled out the USB cable without ejecting first unless the disk wasn't spinning.
[07:31] <linelevel> actionParsnip: regardless of the size, I do have some data on it which has not been recently backed up, so if there's anything I can do to get this thing mounted I would like to try it.
[07:31] <actionParsnip> linelevel: regardless of it spinning, it still needs to be safetly ejected
[07:32] <linelevel> actionParsnip: Okay, I did not realize that.
[07:33] <actionParsnip> linelevel: you could try foremost on the mounted partition. You will need enough space to hold all the space on the device as ALL files will be recovered, you can then sift through and find what you need
[07:34] <linelevel> actionParsnip: but how do I mount the partition?
[07:34] <actionParsnip> linelevel: with foremost you don't want the partition mounted
[07:34] <actionParsnip> linelevel: or you can attempt to manually mount it
[07:34] <linelevel> oh okay
[07:35] <linelevel> you said "try foremost on the mounted partition"
[07:35] <actionParsnip> linelevel: sorry, unmounted. my bad
[07:35] <linelevel> gotcha
[07:35] <actionParsnip> linelevel: have you attempted to manually mount?
[07:38] <brightsparks> Hi - could someone tell how to deal with this? W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://repository.spotify.com/ stable/non-free i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/repository.spotify.com_dists_stable_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)
[07:38] <yayLINUX> hey at what time will ubuntu 12.10 released?
[07:38] <yayLINUX> release *
[07:39] <llutz> brightsparks: "grep -r spotify /etc/apt/*"   remove one of the duplicate entries
[07:40] <alakoo> yayLINUX: well the release cycle is 6 months you can count from that
[07:40] <Kartagis> can I get the opensource nvidia drivers without the card actually installed?,
[07:41] <Kartagis> yayLINUX: at the end of this month
[07:41] <yayLINUX> I saw that it was at october 18
[07:41] <alakoo> oh wait, it's release date already :)
[07:41] <yayLINUX> yeah -.-
[07:42] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: they are in a default install
[07:42] <yayLINUX> I mean at what time today
[07:42] <alakoo> yeah dunno
[07:42] <Odd-rationale> yayLINUX: /join #ubuntu-release-party
[07:43] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: they are xserver-xorg-video-nouveau which is in a default install and gives the open source Nvidia driver
[07:43] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: install of what? I don't remember installing anything after I installed the card. besides, it always showed up in third party drivers
[07:43] <Kartagis> thanks actionParsnip
[07:44] <Elesa> Hi, I used dist-upgrade and after the packages were downloaded, I accidentally aborted in the part where it asks you if you want to install new packages. How can I install them without downloading them again?
[07:44] <wachpwnski> What would prevent me from installing grub bootloader on a disk?
[07:44] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: its in a default install, so you don't manually install anything
[07:44] <llutz> Elesa: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    it won't download again
[07:45] <Elesa> I'm using apt-fast
[07:45] <brightsparks> <llutz:
[07:45] <Elesa> It tried to download again. =/
[07:45] <actionParsnip> Elesa: gotta love apt-fast :)
[07:45] <brightsparks> llutz: Thanks
[07:45] <actionParsnip> Elesa: try:    sudo apt-get -f install
[07:46] <Elesa> It says I have 453 non updated packages, sheesh
[07:46] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: it seems I don't have that package
[07:46] <llutz> !find apt-fast
[07:47] <actionParsnip> llutz: its from a 3rd party source. It's axel + apt-get
[07:47] <Elesa> I'm in Linux Mint 13 but I'd rather ask here since this has to do with apt-get/fast, not Ubuntu precisely
[07:47] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: should I install it after I install the card?
[07:47] <Elesa> And I like it here.
[07:47] <llutz> actionParsnip: ok, i never heard that before... why don't people just use systemtools which work...
[07:47] <Elesa> I guess I have to download again.. -_-
[07:48] <actionParsnip> llutz: apt-fast downloads from multiple sources, apt-fast uses axel and downloads from 4 (by default)
[07:48] <llutz> Elesa: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    if the packages are downloaded already, they will be used
[07:48] <Elesa> Nope, it's downloading them again. And I checked that they had been downloaded. D:
[07:48] <llutz> or does "apt-fast axel" store them somewhere out of any standard location?
[07:49] <Elesa> I guess I'll just use regular apt-get
[07:49] <Elesa> Thanks!
[07:49] <Elesa> oh
[07:50] <fredriksk> at what time does 12.10 get released?
[07:50] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: re-checked, and the package is there, but the driver is not being picked up. what do you suggest?
[07:51] <Kartagis> fredriksk: /j #ubuntu-release-party
[07:51] <actionParsnip> llutz: I believe its in the same place, let me check
[07:52] <linelevel> actionParsnip: I did not try to manually mount yet, but GParted says: "Warning: Unable to detect file system! Possible reasons are: -The file system is damaged -The file system is unknown to GParted -There is no file system available (unformatted)".
[07:52] <zutgorak> morning
[07:52] <Elesa> Seems like it worked out of nowhere. :D
[07:52] <linelevel> actionParsnip: Is there anything I can do to try to recover my ext4 partition on this drive?
[07:52] <Elesa> It was trying to download some other stuff? Thanks again!
[07:53] <actionParsnip> linelevel: try the manual mount
[07:53] <llutz> Elesa: thats how apt is supposed to work
[07:53] <zutgorak> question: is there a way to create an alias that creates a user with the nologin shell, but still creates an alias?
[07:53] <Kartagis> !nvidia
[07:53] <zutgorak> err.. still creates a home dir
[07:53] <actionParsnip> llutz: yeah, same place as apt-get
[07:54] <fredriksk> Kartagis, thanks!
[07:54] <Kartagis> np
[07:54] <zutgorak> tried alias webuser='useradd -s /sbin/nologin' but that seems to create the user, but not dragging anything from /etc/skel or create a home dir
[07:55] <llutz> actionParsnip: anything else would have disqualified the tool forever ;)
[07:55] <Kartagis> zutgorak: add a -m, that will create $HOME
[07:55] <zutgorak> so alias webuser='useradd -s -m /sbin/nologin' ?
[07:56] <Kartagis> zutgorak: wait a minute, why do you want to create a $HOME for a nologin user?
[07:56] <wachpwnski> I have two network cards, how do I configure those in /etc/networking/interfaces?
[07:56] <Kartagis> oh, FTP only?
[07:56] <zutgorak> yes
[07:56] <actionParsnip> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286515/
[07:56] <zutgorak> im using usermod for apache
[07:57] <llutz> wachpwnski: read "man 5 interfaces"
[07:57] <Kartagis> zutgorak: and yes, the snytax is correct
[07:57] <Kartagis> man useradd for additional information
[07:57] <actionParsnip> wachpwnski: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[07:57] <Kartagis> !interface
[07:58] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: !nvidia suggests that I do a nvidia-xconfig. does it apply in any case?
[07:58] <chovynz> hwo can i make this work better? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286520/
[07:58] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: it can be needed
[07:59] <stevecam> when im copying a large file over 100mb to usb, my progress bar doesnt update properly, it moves about 80% then stays there for about 5 minutes, is this a common problem?
[07:59] <Kartagis> brb then
[08:00] <actionParsnip> stevecam: what apps have you used to copy the file with?
[08:01] <chovynz> actionParsnip: why am I getting     -bash: alias: /_/g: not found    from this?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286520/ . Rather, I know why it's exiting the command - because it reaches another ' and thinks it is ending the alias. So how can I re-write the alias to do the terminal command properly?
[08:02] <actionParsnip> chovynz: my bashfu isn't great. I'd ask in #bash as well
[08:03] <stevecam> actionParsnip, nautilus
[08:03] <actionParsnip> stevecam: any others?
[08:03] <EdwardIII> hey
[08:04] <actionParsnip> stevecam: install another, like pcmanfm  and try that, see if the same occurs
[08:04] <EdwardIII> just connected up to a fresh ubuntu install over ssh. created a new user 'edward', copied the contents of /etc/skel/ into $HOME, but odd things aren't working like tab completion
[08:04] <stevecam> actionParsnip, no, haven't really thought of anything else to use, not really an issue as it seems to just not be updating the progress bar properly n othing else but i would like to get it working normally again
[08:07] <chovynz> actionParsnip: #bash answered. It is because I cannot have ' inside '. They recommended " inside ' instead
[08:07] <actionParsnip> stevecam: you could try it, if its not causing any issues then I'd just let it be
[08:07] <Fernest> If I want to install Boost (C++ libraries) on Ubuntu with Synaptic, how do I do that? (There are like 200 packages which are called something-boost-something and none of them seems to be the main one)
[08:07] <actionParsnip> chovynz: cool
[08:09] <stevecam> actionParsnip, just tried it in midnight commander, the progress bar reaches 100% and it just stays there
[08:09] <actionParsnip> Fernest: maybe:  libboost1.49-dev - Boost C++ Libraries development files
[08:09] <actionParsnip> Fernest: I'm on Quantal, so your package may be slightly different
[08:10] <Fernest> actionParship: is "dev" meant like "SDK" or "development status" (=beta)
[08:11] <actionParsnip> Fernest: its the development files and headers to make the package work / integrate with the library, not beta
[08:11] <actionParsnip> Fernest: all the lib packages have -dev packages so that compilation of apps that use those libds can happen
[08:12] <Fernest> ah. ok
[08:12] <the_dark_knight> i have one question related to shell
[08:12] <Josh-> Hello
[08:12] <blazemore> I have one answer, the_dark_knight if you go ahead and ask it
[08:12] <the_dark_knight> when i run https://oftcpython.privatepaste.com/b3a004e393
[08:12] <Fernest> If I mark this for installation, Synaptic wants to uninstall like 20 packages (which have something to do with boost). Should I just continue or is it risky and can lead to errors?
[08:13] <actionParsnip> Fernest: if they are needed then you'll need to pull them in
[08:13] <the_dark_knight> even if that file exists in the script it says 'file doesn't exists' why?
[08:13] <Josh-> Why ubuntu 12.04 treats left and right super key different ?
[08:13] <the_dark_knight> see my script here https://oftcpython.privatepaste.com/b3a004e393
[08:13] <Fernest> actionParship: Is there a way to find out if something needs them?
[08:13] <actionParsnip> Josh-: because they are different keys
[08:14] <Josh-> If I press any shortcut using Right Super key, then only it works
[08:14] <blazemore> the_dark_knight: try it without the square brackets
[08:14] <Josh-> actionParsnip, How to make one act exactly like other?
[08:14] <blazemore> Also the_dark_knight try it without the quotes around $nameBkpLzma
[08:14] <linelevel> actionParsnip: Tried `mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /media/my_mount_point`. Got back "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error\ In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so"
[08:15] <actionParsnip> josh-: http://thetechjournal.com/how-to/tutorial-how-to-make-certain-keyboard-keys-act-like-other-keys.xhtml
[08:15] <the_dark_knight> blazemore: still errors '-e: command not found' and then 'file not found'
[08:16] <blazemore> the_dark_knight: sorry - try *with* the square brackets, but *without* the quotes
[08:16] <actionParsnip> Josh-: that's windows based, gimme a sec
[08:17] <the_dark_knight> blazemore: gives 'file doesn't exist' again
[08:17] <the_dark_knight> blazemore: i mean it works on prompt
[08:17] <llutz> the_dark_knight: does it work if you replace ~ by the full path?
[08:17] <the_dark_knight> lemme check
[08:18] <susebh> can't ping or ssh to PCs using name, but dns-nameserver is set to my router's IP
[08:18] <actionParsnip> Josh-: may help https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KEYMAP
[08:18] <the_dark_knight> llutz: blazemore it works if i remove ~
[08:19] <the_dark_knight> don't know why but should work with ~ too.
[08:19] <llutz> the_dark_knight: "remove ~"? ~ is a shortcut for $HOME or /home/$USER
[08:19] <actionParsnip> linelevel: you can fsck the partition using a different superblock, there are a few in the partition
[08:19] <llutz> (except for root)
[08:20] <linelevel> actionParsnip: That's over my head.
[08:20] <actionParsnip> linelevel: so is websearching?
[08:21] <actionParsnip> linelevel: sudo e2fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/sdb1
[08:21] <linelevel> actionParsnip: Good call, sorry.
[08:21] <llutz> the_dark_knight: what is the real location of that file, is it /backup/foo   or /home/.../backup/foo?
[08:21] <linelevel> I'll read google.
[08:21] <actionParsnip> linelevel: I gave the command for you
[08:21] <nootje> hoi
[08:22] <the_dark_knight> llutz: it is /home/foo/backup/bkp.sql.lzma
[08:22] <ac> Hello everyone
[08:22] <linelevel> actionParsnip: I ran your command, it says: http://dpaste.org/OAVFd/
[08:22] <the_dark_knight> llutz: so should i avoid using ~ and use /home/foo everywhere or just with shell
[08:23] <nootje> how late ubuntu 12.10
[08:23] <ohzoi> hello, how can i upgrade to 12.10?
[08:23] <llutz> the_dark_knight: to be on the safe side, use full pathes
[08:23] <nootje> how late come ubuntu 12.10
[08:23] <Josh-> actionParsnip, hehe, linking arch's website in ubuntu huh
[08:23] <the_dark_knight> llutz: ok. thanks. but what was it taking when i used ~
[08:23] <Josh-> 11.04 was never LTS right?
[08:23] <the_dark_knight> llutz: is there any way I can know what my shell script mean by ~
[08:24] <nootje> how late come ubuntu 12.10
[08:24] <Tropicana> hmmm, why does my wireless network stop working when i pull out my cable?
[08:24] <gabkdlly> the_dark_knight, echo ~
[08:24] <actionParsnip> linelevel: sudo e2fsck -f -b 32768 /dev/sdb1
[08:25] <actionParsnip> Josh-: no, natty is not LTS
[08:25] <Tropicana> when the cable is in it find the wireless and connect to it
[08:25] <Josh-> I wonder why
[08:25] <actionParsnip> Josh-: not all releases are LTS
[08:25] <the_dark_knight> gabkdlly: echo ~ gives the same /home/foo not /home/foo/ is it the problem
[08:25] <Josh-> Yea well, but after 10.04 directly 12.04 :O
[08:25] <actionParsnip> Josh-: 8.04, 10.04 and 12.04 are LTS, the intermediate releases are not
[08:25] <Josh-> huge gap
[08:25] <linelevel> actionParsnip: It says it's fixing it now.
[08:25] <SixThousandOwls> It would take a lot more effort and resources(programmers) to provide LTS for all releases.
[08:26] <actionParsnip> linelevel: there are superblocks all around the partition, its that important :)
[08:26] <SixThousandOwls> The mini-releases are kind of like times of experimentation. Then the good elements of those mini-updates are often added to the next LTS.
[08:26] <llutz> the_dark_knight: ~ usually will be expanded to the home-dir as defined in /etc/passwd. did you run that from cron or as a different user?
[08:26] <cheshair> Hi! I am using Ubuntu backup software. I do want to restore a single file and decided to use this command: http://dpaste.com/815022/
[08:26] <susebh> can't ping or ssh to PCs using name, but dns-nameserver is set to my router's IP
[08:26] <linelevel> actionParsnip:  I will need to read about what it is doing. I don't understand what superblocks are yet.
[08:26] <Josh-> SixThousandOwls, We already have Six Thousand Owls >_>
[08:26] <nootje> how late come ubuntu 12.10
[08:26] <actionParsnip> susebh: can you ping it via IP?
[08:26] <the_dark_knight> llutz: same user foo. not from cron
[08:26] <actionParsnip> nootje: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Quantal things
[08:27] <nootje> oke
[08:27] <Josh-> He has been asking same thing for quite a long time
[08:27] <Josh-> >_>
[08:27] <gabkdlly> the_dark_knight, well, if you need /home/foo/ , then you can do :  echo ~/
[08:27] <cheshair> the point is that i am asked a gpg passphrase although i didn't set one at the time of backup, any ideas?
[08:27] <karneisada> I d/led a daily build a few days ago and it was already 12.10
[08:27] <karneisada> didn't realize it at the time
[08:28] <llutz> the_dark_knight: sorry, i don't know why it wasn't expanded then.
[08:28] <actionParsnip> karneisada: well, yeah. Quantal is out soon :)
[08:28] <linelevel> actionParsnip: This seems like it's going to take a long time, so I'll see what happens. Thanks for the help so far.
[08:29] <susebh> actionParsnip: yup
[08:29] <actionParsnip> susebh: is the ssh's server name and IP in the DHCP clients table in the router?
[08:29] <Josh-> actionParsnip, I had file manager as shortcut for Super+E
[08:29] <karneisada> i'm using lubuntu, though
[08:29] <Josh-> But, It only works when I press Right Super + E
[08:29] <Josh-> Left Super + E dosn't work same
[08:29] <Josh-> :3
[08:29] <karneisada> I might try out unity
[08:30] <karneisada> it's been a while
[08:30] <Josh-> Nah, I am liking cinnamon :3
[08:30] <actionParsnip> Josh-: if you run:  xev      and press both keys, you'll see they make different keycodes
[08:30] <susebh> actionParsnip: DHCP is disabled into the router
[08:31] <the_dark_knight> llutz: thanks
[08:31] <actionParsnip> susebh: then add an entry for it in /etc/hosts and itwill work
[08:31] <llutz> susebh: how should the router know the hostnames then?
[08:31] <Josh-> actionParsnip, So is there anyway for both to perform same task?
[08:32] <Josh-> or one map to another?
[08:32] <actionParsnip> Josh-: you can map the other to make the same code
[08:32] <susebh> llutz: please, explain me, I'm really n00b in networking
[08:33] <llutz> susebh: if you don't use dhcp on the router, the router cannot know the static hostnames of those clients
[08:33] <actionParsnip> susebh: run:   gksudo gedit /etc/hosts     and you can add an entry there to make the name resolve to an IP locally
[08:33] <susebh> llutz: so... No DHCP service, no name resolving: am I right?
[08:33] <Fernest> isn't 12.10 out today?
[08:34] <susebh> actionParsnip: ty
[08:34] <actionParsnip> susebh: np :)
[08:34] <gabkdlly> the_dark_knight, I think what was throwing you off might have been the difference in behavior between '~/' and "~/"; the second one gets expanded, the first one does not
[08:34] <actionParsnip> Fernest: ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:35] <minas> hi, has 12.10 become available yet?
[08:35] <the_dark_knight> gabkdlly: ok. ill try that one. 1 sec
[08:35] <actionParsnip> minas: ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:36] <minas> ok, thanks
[08:36] <cheshair> hi, do you know a specific place where i can ask of ubuntu backup and duplicity?
[08:36] <susebh> llutz: what if I bring an old PC and I turn it into a DNS server? It will resolve names in my LAN even if all PCs are static?
[08:36] <actionParsnip> cheshair: here is a good start
[08:36] <cheshair> actionParsnip: nice, thanks
[08:37] <the_dark_knight> gabkdlly: it is not working
[08:38] <cheshair> hi, i am trying to restore a single file from my ubuntu backup. I am using a duplicity command from cli: http://dpaste.com/815022/ The problem is, I am asked a passphrase even though I didn't set one! :-(
[08:40] <gabkdlly> cheshair, did you try just hitting enter when you are asked for the passphrase ?
[08:40] <cheshair> gabkdlly: yep, and I am told: "Cannot use empty passphrase with symmetric encryption!  Please try again."
[08:40] <Kartagis> !nvidia
[08:41] <Gabriel_SOE> Hello All
[08:41] <chovynz> how and where do I make functions?
[08:41] <cheshair> gabkdlly: if I enter a fake passphrase, whatever it is, I succeed in getting the file. The point is this is so obscure
[08:42] <cheshair> gabkdlly: I am afraid of giving all my important data to a software I don't understand
[08:42] <Gabriel_SOE> I was under the impression that 12.10 is out today.
[08:42] <Gabriel_SOE> is it?
[08:42] <actionParsnip> Gabriel_SOE: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[08:43] <Gabriel_SOE> K
[08:43] <blazemore> Gabriel_SOE: It'll be announced all over the place, check the ubuntu releases mailing list, and blogs like OMG, webupd8 and r/linux
[08:43] <somsip> Gabriel_SOE: or us !isitout
[08:43] <gabkdlly> cheshair, oh, that is kind of weird behavior. It has been a long while since I used duplicity. It is a great tool, but requires some reading.
[08:43] <somsip> !isitout | Gabriel_SOE
[08:43] <actionParsnip> !party | Gabriel_SOE
[08:44] <adoniscik> how can you set arbitrary file associations; the application I want is not listed?
[08:44] <Gabriel_SOE> Thanks for the info m8
[08:44] <cheshair> gabkdlly: oh I see. I'll read docs again then and then try to open a question to the duplicity or deja-dup developers
[08:45] <cheshair> gabkdlly: thanks
[08:46] <actionParsnip> adoniscik: the only way I can think is to make a .desktop file for it in /usr/share/applications   and it will be listed
[08:47] <cheshair> gabkdlly: ah! insight! I managed to solved my problem! this is the right command to use! http://dpaste.com/815029/ I have to add the --no-encription option since I didn't use encription when creating the backup first
[08:47] <linelevel> actionParsnip: Quick question: Do you know if there is any way to say "fix all" or something? It's asking me "Free blocks count wrong for group #xxxx ... Fix<y>?"  But it's asking that for EVERY SINGLE group.
[08:47] <cheshair> gabkdlly: thank you so much, cheers
[08:48] <gabkdlly> cheshair, awesome
[08:48] <actionParsnip> linelevel: I suggest you read:  man e2fsck
[08:50] <adoniscik> thanks, action, I'll give it a try
[08:51] <actionParsnip> adoniscik: you can copy one from ~/.config/autostart   they are simpler, its the only way I can really think to make it work. Others may have a sleeker solution
[08:52] <adoniscik> should I place it in .config/autostart?
[08:52] <actionParsnip> adoniscik: shove it in /usr/share/applications and it will also appear in dash :)
[08:53] <Josh-> So, for one of my C++ projects I need -Xrandr
[08:53] <Josh-> It seems its not present in Ubuntu
[08:54] <Josh-> Anybody knows How to install it?
[08:54] <actionParsnip> Josh-: xrandr is in a default install
[08:54] <Josh-> It was there from beginning when I was using Ubuntu for wubi
[08:54] <Josh-> actionParsnip, It seems G++ can't find it
[08:54] <actionParsnip> Josh-: how are you calling it?
[08:54] <Josh-> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXrandr
[08:55] <mkvubuntu> Hi everybody
[08:55] <Josh-> actionParsnip, -Xrandr
[08:55] <Josh-> err
[08:55] <Josh-> -lXrandr
[08:55] <mkvubuntu> I would render my videos (mkv 1080p and 720p) fluent on ubuntu 12.04 pc is Asrock 330, could u help me?
[08:56] <actionParsnip> Josh-: shouldn't it all be lower case?
[08:56] <actionParsnip> mkvubuntu: do you mean display the video?
[08:56] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: how can I verify that I am now using nvidia open source drivers?
[08:57] <mkvubuntu> yes actionParnsip, now the videos are like step  by step not fluent
[08:57] <Josh-> actionParsnip, No?
[08:57] <Josh-> actionParsnip, It was working as is on Ubuntu 12.04 installed on Wubi
[08:57] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: sudo lshw -C display     driver=nouveau   means you are using the open source driver.  driver=nvidia    means you are using the proprietary driver
[08:57] <Josh-> it seems to not working on a proper installation of Ubuntu 12.04
[08:58] <Kartagis> !nvidia
[08:58] <actionParsnip> Josh-: the installs areidentical. With Wubi you use a file stored in NTFS which is loop mounted at boot. The OS and hardware access is identical in every way
[08:58] <scoundrel> hi, I'm in the UK and was wondering when 12.10 was available for download
[08:58] <Josh-> actionParsnip, Exactly
[08:58] <actionParsnip> scoundrel: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[08:58] <gordonjcp> !isitoutyet
[08:59] <scoundrel> oh ok, sorry about that didnt know, thanks
[08:59] <actionParsnip> mkvubuntu: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a       Thanks
[08:59] <mkvubuntu> yes ok
[08:59] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0
[08:59] <scoundrel> #join #ubuntu+1
[08:59] <Kartagis> :S
[09:00] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: you have theproprietary driver then
[09:00] <Josh-> actionParsnip, Can't find -lxrandr -lXrandr
[09:00] <mkvubuntu> PCI (sysfs)
[09:00] <Josh-> any of those :p
[09:00] <Josh-> :[
[09:01] <iceroot> Josh-: its xrandr
[09:01] <Josh-> iceroot, yes?
[09:01] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: how can I replace it with the open source driver? sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau says it's the latest version
[09:01] <Josh-> iceroot, In LIBS of makefile you should be writing, -lxrandr
[09:01] <Josh-> right?
[09:02] <mkvubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286572/
[09:02] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: you could uninstall the nvidiadriver and the nouveau will beused
[09:02] <susebh> in /etc/resolv.conf tells me not to edit this file by hand... What files should I modify to change the value of "search" variable?
[09:03] <actionParsnip> mkvubuntu: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:04] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: what's the package name to uninstall?
[09:04] <belgianguy> hmm is it normal that 12.10 isn't popping up in my Update panel yet?
[09:04] <actionParsnip> susebh: you can add your own nameservers in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail
[09:04] <DJones> belgianguy: Its not released yet
[09:05] <TJ-> susebh: /etc/resolv.conf is generated by scripts under /etc/resolconf/. The "search" entry is created by /etc/resolvconf/update.d/libc
[09:05] <Kartagis> I'm removing nvidia-current and nvidia-common
[09:05] <belgianguy> DJones: oh, I thought it was released, as I just read an article at Ars Technica
[09:05] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: if you run:   dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'} | grep nvidia | grep -v nvidia-common           should list the packages
[09:05] <belgianguy> but pêrhaps that was a late beta
[09:06] <susebh> TJ-: ok, ty, how can I use that to modify "search"?
[09:07] <wachpwnski> I am getting /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys is not a regular file
[09:07] <killer_> hi.....when is 12.10 going to release
[09:07] <niluje> I run ubuntu 12.04 with Unity. I have a dual screen. There's no option sticky edges in my display settings. How can I remove it?
[09:07] <actionParsnip> killer_: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:07] <wachpwnski> Is that a permission thing with sshd?
[09:07] <somsip> !isitout | killer_
[09:08] <actionParsnip> wachpwnski: is that on the client on the server?
[09:08] <actionParsnip> wachpwnski: do you use ssh keys?
[09:08] <wachpwnski> that is the server in /var/log/auth.log
[09:08] <SixThousandOwls> I was wondering, is there a way to minimize everything at once? I'm using 12.04.
[09:08] <wachpwnski> Yes
[09:09] <actionParsnip> wachpwnski: then I'd look at your keys, make sure they are all good
[09:09] <TJ-> susebh: You can create "/etc/default/resolvconf" and add specific variables to it which will be used by that script to set "search"
[09:09] <actionParsnip> SixThousandOwls: if you ALT+TAB, you will get to a show desktop item
[09:09] <SixThousandOwls> Okay, thank you.
[09:10] <peto_> hi
[09:10] <linelevel> actionParsnip: I ran your last e2fsck command with the 'y' switch. It just finished.  It doesn't stay that way for long though then changes back to transparent. I never had this with ubuntu 12.04. Any ideas what is going on?
[09:13] <actionParsnip> mkvubuntu: its a copy and paste to a terminal. What's to 'try'?
[09:13] <DJones> thepreacher: #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 questions until its officially released
[09:13] <mkvubuntu> yes I put in it and I am waiting to finish and trying it if after all be solved :)
[09:13] <susebh> find it!!! :D to modify the "search" variabile in resolv.conf you need to first modify /run/resolvconf/interface/eth0.inet and the run #resolvconf -u
[09:13]  * susebh HAPPY! :D
[09:14] <venelin> how can I check AMD Catalyst Control Center version installed?
[09:14] <actionParsnip> susebh: seems a bit pointless to use DNS if you only have a small LAN and no DHCP.
[09:14] <Sefid_par> I wanna see the content of DVD1; I wanna know if it has Eclipse in it.
[09:14] <adoniscik> parsnip: i've created the desktop file and can see it in the dash, but I can't get it to appear in the file associations. any pointesr?
[09:14] <actionParsnip> venelin: dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[09:14] <bkeith> What time will Ubuntu 12.10 be released at?
[09:14] <crizis> venelin, open catalyst center and check 'information' tab in the menu
[09:14] <actionParsnip> adoniscik: I believe it's to do with the categories line
[09:15] <susebh> actionParsnip: you say? Why? Explain, explain!!!
[09:15] <wachpwnski> actionParsnip:  authorized_keys isn't supposed to be a folder is it?
[09:16] <actionParsnip> susebh: the name translation can be handled by /etc/hosts   especially if you have something like 3 systems.
[09:16] <venelin> crizis, thanks a lot I should see it there
[09:16]  * Sefid_par werer glad if knew that Eclipse is in DVD1
[09:16] <actionParsnip> wachpwnski: i've not used ssh keys, so no idea. sorry
[09:16] <actionParsnip> bkeith: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[09:17] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: when I uninstalled nvidia, I got stuck with 720x400 as screen resolution
[09:17] <susebh> actionParsnip: ok, 'cause it's not a pain if you set up one-by-one manually... Right. But what if the LAN has got a complex config with a lot of PCs in there? Could be another way instead of doing it manually?!?
[09:17] <wachpwnski> got it
[09:17] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: sounds like your display isn't giving edid. You could use an xorg.conf file to set the resolution
[09:18] <mkvubuntu> Right same problem and even I cannot open xbmc now...
[09:19] <BadDesign> How can I find out how many inchs my monitor has with some kind of tool?
[09:19] <actionParsnip> susebh: if the network gets complex then yes maybe, DNS in the router just makes life convenient. Its not much different than adding the DNS file you just had to add.....
[09:19] <actionParsnip> mkvubuntu: did you reboot
[09:19] <somsip> BadDesign: you mean, a ruler?
[09:20] <mkvubuntu> I didn't reboot, should I reboot pc?
[09:20] <susebh> actionParsnip: ok! Understood. ty for your time!! :]
[09:20] <actionParsnip> mkvubuntu: yes, to reload the new driver
[09:21] <mkvubuntu> ok just give me the link to be in this webchat.freenode.net again thanks
[09:21] <actionParsnip> mkvubuntu: that's the link, why do I need to give you anything?
[09:22] <mkvubuntu> just in case something won't be fine then...
[09:23] <iceroot> BadDesign: maybe xrandr can read that information
[09:23] <adoniscik> parsnip: do you have to do anything after placfing the desktop file in the folder to get it to appear the file assocations list?
[09:23] <adoniscik> the right folder, that is
[09:24] <actionParsnip> mkvubuntu: I don't follow you
[09:35] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: still no :S
[09:36] <dyd> guys i'm installing linux mint, but i don't know what version i should install
[09:37] <dyd> now i use ubuntu
[09:37] <actionParsnip> dyd: mint isn't supported here
[09:37] <Kartagis> I've put in the line Modes        "1680x1050" in Subsection "Display" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but the resolution is still the same
[09:37] <dyd> actionParsnip, oh yea, #ubuntu xX
[09:37] <actionParsnip> !mint | dyd
[09:40] <liend> lnk
[09:42] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: can you help?
[09:45] <osteenbergen> Kartagis, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[09:45] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286621  is my xorg.conf   which may help
[09:45] <ace> i have a strange error i don't know how to fix when i installed gcc4.4 i386
[09:45] <ace> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gcc-4.4-base_4.4.7-1ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:45] <ace> './usr/share/doc/gcc-4.4-base/README.Debian.gz' is different from the same file on the system
[09:46] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: Modes shouldn't be in Subsection "Display" then
[09:47] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: are there any bugs reported?
[09:47] <Kartagis> where?
[09:48] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: launchpad.net
[09:48] <actionParsnip> ace: are there bugs reported?
[09:48] <Kartagis> no idea
[09:50] <Knuffelbot> Knuffelbot voor de commandos van de bot typ je  !commands
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[09:50] <TJ-> Kartagis: "man xorg.conf" gives detailed specifications of how Modes are used, from the Monitor, Modes, Display  sub-sections
[09:56] <Kartagis> TJ-: I'm seeing that Modes should be within SubSection "Display", but no luck for me :S
[09:57] <tunnuz> Hi there, does anyone know the release date of 12.10?
[09:58] <Laice> today i thought
[09:58] <Valtam> 18th
[09:58] <dontknow> seriously
[09:58] <dontknow> it will be released today?
[09:59] <Laice> nah they might just bin it
[09:59] <ncv> hello, have someone 11.10? If yes, can you verify if there is a macro/function __read_chk on include/*/asm/uistd*.h? thank you :)
[09:59] <Arnold> dontknow, indeed. 18th of October is the plan.
[10:00] <Laice> looking forward to inst'ing didnt try any of the betas/RCs this time round
[10:00] <Joel_re> does anyone use the karaoke app - ultrastar dx?
[10:00] <tunnuz> It's already October 18 where I live :D
[10:01] <tunnuz> Oh, yes, everywhere probably
[10:01] <tunnuz> but does anyone know the time?
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> Joel_re  there's performous in ubuntu
[10:01] <tunnuz> The release time
[10:01] <dontknow> i think i will go on with 12.04
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> tunnuz  of what timezone?
[10:01] <tunnuz> GMT+1
[10:01] <dr_willis> there never is a set time
[10:01] <tunnuz> (Italy)
[10:02] <TJ-> Kartagis: It says, under sub-section Display, Modes: "They  must  correspond  to  those specified or referenced in the appropriate Monitor section (including implicitly referenced built-in VESA standard modes)."
[10:02] <tunnuz> ok
[10:02] <riqdiiz> is there Ubuntu for android?
[10:02] <Joel_re> MonkeyDust: ah, yeah.. well Ive just been trying to guage how many users of ultrastar delux are out there, or if people are generally aware
[10:02] <resetknopje> 12.10 pm ???
[10:02] <Joel_re> the project is lacking devs and needs some love
[10:02] <tunnuz> resetknopje: yup
[10:02] <dr_willis> riqdiiz:  there is an ARM release of ubuntu. but ive not seen a specific ubuntu on a tab;et/phone yet. except in a vm.
[10:03] <TJ-> Kartagis: Usually it is sufficient to specify the correct HorizSync and VertSync in the Monitor section. From those, the server can figure out which modes will work on the monitor
[10:03] <dontknow> if there is a gude to remove adware elements from 12.10, i may switch 12.10
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> dontknow  adware elements?
[10:03] <dr_willis> dontknow:  just remove the shopping lense. its not adware
[10:03] <dr_willis> theres a check box option also i recall
[10:04] <Arnold> dontknow, there's also an option to disable online searching from the Privacy settings category
[10:04] <riqdiiz> ok Dr what is vm?
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> riqdiiz  virtual machine
[10:04] <hetkat> help: I booted up once with my ps2 mouse disconnected and now after rebooting with it connected it does not work
[10:04] <dontknow> after that dash doesn't send what i typed?
[10:05] <dr_willis> riqdiiz:  dozens of 'ubuntu in android os' apps on the marketplace/googlrplay store
[10:05] <riqdiiz> can it be used on smartphones?
[10:05] <dr_willis> riqdiiz:  search the google play market...  yes.. it depends on your device
[10:06] <hetkat> help: I booted up once with my ps2 mouse disconnected and now after rebooting with it connected it does not work
[10:06] <dr_willis> they put  ubuntu in a vm on the phone, you then connect to via a vnc cliennnt to get a desktop normally.
[10:08] <riqdiiz> you get Ubuntu desktop version on the phone?
[10:09] <dr_willis> riqdiiz:  yes.. may not be identical. to whats on the pc.
[10:09] <rich_> Can anyone suggest why I cant upgrade my ubuntu server to 12.10? http://pastebin.com/dW9CAQJ1
[10:10] <rich_> Nothing on apt-get update either, surely it should be able to update
[10:10] <DJones> rich_: Its released yet
[10:10] <jrib> rich_: 12.10 isn't out yet
[10:10] <patcito> jrib: will it be out today?
[10:10] <riqdiiz> does it offer bios multiboot on the phone?
[10:10] <jrib> patcito: that's the plan
[10:11] <dr_willis> so you used the 'update to developement' option?
[10:11] <dr_willis> riqdiiz:  it runs in a vm.. so that would make no sence
[10:11] <rich_> Oh, I thought it had been http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-takes-flight-with-a-bag-full-of-juju/
[10:11] <patcito> rich_: ars is BS
[10:12] <rich_> Fair enough
[10:12] <rich_> that explains that then
[10:12] <rich_> thanks
[10:12] <dr_willis> or they just failed to state the actual release date
[10:12] <riqdiiz> ok because its not installed on firmware
[10:12] <jrib> rich_: you can join #ubuntu-release-party while you wait :)
[10:13] <belgianguy> lol, I got fooled by the ars article as well
[10:13] <belgianguy> perhaps I should update my news resources
[10:14] <riqdiiz> thanks Dr
[10:15] <dr_willis> every release we get the same things. :) 'this site says its out... no its not' 'whats the time of release.. there is no set time'.... and so on. ;)
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> that's why there are factoids, i guess, to answer always the sae
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> the same questions
[10:16] <dr_willis> and yes you can update/upgrade to final from beta.. ;)  that will cover 80% of what people will be asking..
[10:16] <dr_willis> i forget that  shopping lense disable factoid..
[10:16] <dr_willis> !ads
[10:17] <meomic> sorry to ask here - but i can not find any info on the web - maybe anyone knows at what time 12.10 will be released?
[10:17] <jrib> dr_willis: !adlens
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> meomic  any time now
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> developpers are having coffee
[10:19] <dr_willis> heh heh... and  theres the first... of the 80%
[10:19] <zalgor> Hello. I got printers listed in firefox, but not in kde applications. I am using local cups with browsepoll to a cupsserver. Any ideas?
[10:19] <meomic> MonkeyDust: so there wont be any conference or anything like that? - sorry im not familiar with that topic - im using already for 2 years but never cared and now i am having incopatible noebook - 12.10 will fix most of these things... thats why i am asking :)
[10:20] <dr_willis> some time soon meomic . theres never a set 'time'
[10:20] <meomic> ah oke, ive waited 1,5 month so its ok : )
[10:21] <dr_willis> if you were in a hurry there the daily build/last beta isos.
[10:21] <meomic> yea but i dont like to get into betas etc. - its hard to get out later of it...
[10:21] <dr_willis> i updated my beta install last night.. now to buckle down for the release day storm.
[10:21] <iceroot> meomic: dist-upgrade will give you the final when it is releases
[10:22] <dr_willis> get out of it?
[10:22] <dr_willis> and yes you can update/upgrade to final from beta.. ;)  that will cover 80% of what people will be asking..
[10:22] <iceroot> meomic: but i dont see a reason to install 12.10 today
[10:23] <meomic> dr_willis: ah ok, didnt knew it was easy to switch from beta to 'final' :)
[10:23] <dr_willis> wait for the release then wait an hr or so for the torrents to get going..  download the iso in 5 min.. then when you install the servers will be getting hammered  so you cant install other packages for a day or 3
[10:24] <dr_willis> meomic:  no switching at all.. ;)  you just update/updrade
[10:24] <dr_willis> the joy of apt.
[10:24] <jassi> hi
[10:24] <jassi> i have problem raegarding ubuntu 1204
[10:24] <iceroot> !details | jassi
[10:25] <dr_willis> i do tend to do a clean rrreinstall of my beta test box once final is out to 'learn' the proceeess and clean out the beta stuff id tested that i dont need
[10:25] <meomic> yea that is a nice idea - about downloading from torrent. thanks alot - will save alot of time
[10:25] <jassi> When I used to login into my system i got an error messg : Failed to apply network settings org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.PermissionsInvalid: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct You might not be able to connect to the Bluetooth network via this machine.
[10:26] <jassi> m using dual boot system
[10:26] <dr_willis> grab the torrents then wait a day or 3 untill i install ;) is normally for me
[10:26] <jassi> ubutnu version is 12.04
[10:26] <jassi> also wifi is not working
[10:26] <HollyRain> does 12.10 is going to coming with the search in Amazon enabled by default?
[10:26] <jassi> n blutooh too is not working
[10:27] <jassi> any help?
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> jassi  use blueman (bluetooth manager)
[10:28] <jassi> also
[10:28] <jassi> pendrives are aslo not visible
[10:28] <jassi> when i used to shutdown my system i always get ubuntu lgin screen
[10:28] <jassi> drive are not visible
[10:28] <jassi> what to do?
[10:28] <FloodBot1> jassi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:29] <kompensator> is there a release party channel? :)
[10:29] <TJ-> jassi: Have you recently done an update on that system?
[10:29] <somsip> !party | kompensator
[10:29] <kompensator> thx
[10:30] <jassi> here is my problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286666/
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> jassi  try ctrl-alt f1 sudo-apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade (do you have network in the tty screen?)
[10:30] <jassi> no
[10:31] <jassi> internet is not working
[10:31] <jassi> error is related to network
[10:31] <jassi> den how can i update
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> true
[10:32] <jassi> any help
[10:32] <TJ-> jassi: please pastebin the output of this command, run at a terminal: "sudo ls -l /"   - sometimes this can be the result of a permissions problem
[10:32] <abdelghani> is there any developper from Algeria?
[10:33] <ikonia> abdelghani: is there a reason you need someone from Algeria
[10:33] <addrae> help, my ubuntu looks like this
[10:33] <jassi> ok let me do
[10:34] <squev_> having problems logging in on ubuntu in my VM just loops back to login screen
[10:34] <abdelghani> ikonia: to install a specific thing
[10:34] <ikonia> abdelghani: you don't need someone in Algeria for tha
[10:34] <ikonia> abdelghani: just ask your question and someone maybe able to help
[10:35] <addrae> help my ubuntu looks like this http://i.imgur.com/7DCyv.png
[10:35] <jrib> squev_: create a fresh new user and see if it happens with the new user as well
[10:36] <addrae> help my ubuntu looks like this http://i.imgur.com/7DCyv.png
[10:36] <Zybe> How do you switch between terminals?
[10:36] <abdelghani> ikonia: we have here an internet pack called NEDJMA pack internet doesn't work in ubuntu
[10:37] <ejv> Zybe: if you wish to scroll tty's when physically attached, ctrl+alt+F[1-10] are usually mapped
[10:38] <ikonia> abdelghani: ok ?
[10:38] <addrae> help my ubuntu looks like this http://i.imgur.com/7DCyv.png
[10:38] <ejv> !patience | addrae
[10:38] <ikonia> abdelghani: you need to talk to the people who make it to find out why it's not working
[10:39] <jassi> i am back
[10:39] <susuke> hi guys
[10:40] <cdavis> Any torrents have 12.10 yet?
[10:41] <Angelicxhc> Hello guys! I'm having problem with installing Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS via USB stick. I'm restarting my Laptop (ASUS X59GL) and starts "Install Ubuntu" after time the Graphic Welcome Screen appears and just freeze...  where's the problem and how can I fix it anyone knows? Thanx in advance!
[10:42] <TJ-> !md5 | Angelicxhc
[10:42] <TimothyA> just got a new server...and it's exhibiting the same problems as my server with the dead harddisk. except, there are no bad blocks on the disk this time.... what else should I look for?
[10:42] <TJ-> Angelicxhc: Check the image downloaded and written to the flash device matches the checksum published on the download web-site - it could be the result of corruption
[10:44] <Angelicxhc> thanx
[10:44] <shwaiil> hi
[10:44] <shwaiil> Q: There's articles saying that 12.10 is released, but... that's not actually truth, at least I can't find it in the ubuntu website ?! tks for looking
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> shwaiil  any time now
[10:45] <DJones> shwaiil: Thats right, its not been officially released yet, although it is due at some point today
[10:45] <somsip> !isitout | shwaiil
[10:49] <racha> Am I mis-understanding the apt-get -purge switch?  I thought it was supposed to remove every trace of a program.
[10:49] <jassi> hi
[10:49] <jassi> i have problem
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> racha  try this line     dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' |  sudo xargs dpkg -P
[10:50] <jassi> here is the problem : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286666/
[10:50] <hetkat> help: ps/2 mouse stopped working. it is detected by mdetect but pointer doesnt move
[10:50] <hetkat> any ideas?
[10:51] <jassi> please help me
[10:51] <racha> MonkeyDust: thanks, I'll try that next time
[10:51]  * racha goes off to manually remove files and dirs :(
[10:52] <jassi> :(
[10:52] <susuke> hetkat, try this "modprobe psmouse"
[10:52] <hetkat> susuke -> blank response
[10:53] <ravn> anyone know where to find octave 3.6 packages for mint/ubuntu?
[10:53] <susuke> hetkat, oh... then sry dude...
[10:53] <hetkat> susuke i dont seem to have that module installed
[10:54] <susuke> hetkat, it works for me. when it was stuck i used this... it will work
[10:54] <hetkat> any idea how to install it?
[10:54] <jassi> hi
[10:54] <jassi> is there any to help me
[10:54] <jassi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286666/
[10:55] <AtoxIO> where is the waiting for quantal channel?
[10:55] <DJones> AtoxIO: #ubuntu-release-party
[10:55] <susuke> hetkat, try this "http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/mouse-modules-2.6.32-5-powerpc64-di"
[10:55] <AtoxIO> DJones: thanks :D
[10:57] <jassi> hello
[10:58] <jassi> please help me
[10:58] <jassi> knock knock
[10:58] <jassi> hi
[10:58] <ikonia> jassi: you need to ask a question to get help
[10:58] <bkc_> !ask | JesseC
[10:58] <bkc_> !ask | jassi
[10:58] <jassi> here is my problm
[10:58] <jassi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286666/
[10:59] <ikonia> jassi: saying "knock knock" doesn't put anything for us to work on
[10:59] <ikonia> jassi: forget about the bluetooth error at this time
[10:59] <ikonia> jassi: concentrate on your wireless networking first
[10:59] <ranjan> Hi all, when will ubuntu 12.10 release?
[10:59] <Adam1213> ranjan: join #ubuntu-release-party
[11:00] <crizis> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-takes-flight-with-a-bag-full-of-juju/ ars technica review already out btw :P
[11:00] <ikonia> and only an idiot would read those reviews as it's not released.
[11:01] <blazemore> Like they're going to fix the fundamental issues between yesterday's daily and today's final build
[11:01] <jassi_> hi
[11:01] <blazemore> the issues are political, not technical. you can't open a bug report for that
[11:01] <jassi_> i have a probelm : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286666/
[11:02] <ikonia> jassi: and you've been told what do to
[11:02] <ikonia> what to do
[11:02] <ikonia> jassi: asking again won't change that
[11:02] <ikonia> jassi: concentrate on getting your wireless networking setup first
[11:02] <ikonia> ignore the bluetooth error
[11:02] <jassi_> soory
[11:02] <ikonia> then work on what's left
[11:02] <jassi_> i was offline
[11:02] <sturmi> jassi post your question on askubuntu
[11:02] <sturmi> without further information we can't do much
[11:02] <sturmi> a forum is better for that
[11:02] <jassi_> I already posted there
[11:02] <sturmi> well then i'm sorry but you have to wait a little bit
[11:03] <jassi_> what type of info do u want to know?
[11:03] <ikonia> jassi: what have you done to resolve the wireless networking so far ?
[11:03] <jassi_> nothing
[11:04] <jassi_> ikonia nothing is workig
[11:04] <ikonia> jassi_: right
[11:04] <ikonia> jassi_: so what make/model of network card do you have ?
[11:04] <ikonia> (wireless)
[11:04] <jassi_> how to know this
[11:04] <jassi_> ?
[11:05] <ikonia> jassi_: can you use the wired network on this machine ?
[11:06] <jassi_> related to netwrk nothing is working
[11:06] <jassi_> working
[11:06] <jassi_> :(\
[11:06] <bkc_> bring up a terminal and paste the output of lspci
[11:06] <blazemore> omg not in here though
[11:06] <bkc_> ^ !!!
[11:06] <blazemore> paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <ikonia> jassi_: please READ what is being said to you
[11:07] <blazemore> And paste the URL in here :-)
[11:07] <ikonia> jassi_: and answer the questions
[11:07] <ikonia> jassi_: can you use wired networking on this device ?
[11:07] <jassi_> ikonia: no
[11:07] <jassi_> but i have tried data card
[11:07] <jassi_> but dats not working
[11:08] <ikonia> jassi_: ok, is there a reason you can't use the wired card ? is that not working also ?
[11:08] <jassi_> right now i don't have wired connection
[11:08] <bkc_> jassi_: as I said, bring up a terminal and run lspci and then paste the result on http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste the link here :)
[11:09] <hetkat> how can i find out which device my seriual mouse is attached to?
[11:09] <hetkat> I gather its either ttyS0 or ttyS1 but which?
[11:10] <bkc_> hetkat: neither
[11:10] <hetkat> go on..
[11:10] <bkc_> hetkat: /dev/input/mouse0
[11:11] <ikonia> jassi_: ok, run lspci and you should be able to see what your wirless card is, tell us that info
[11:11] <ikonia> jassi_: or paste the whole lot in a pastebin (not in this channel)
[11:11] <bkc_> hetkat: serial, ps-2 or usb has nothing to do with it... it has to be in /dev/input to work...
[11:11] <jassi_> ok
[11:11] <jassi_> let me do
[11:12] <hetkat> well if I do "sudo inputattach --daemon --intellimouse /dev/input/mouse0" it says "can't set line discipline"
[11:15] <marsfligth> Does exist a gui/frontend application to change defaults applications? Thanks
[11:15] <hetkat> bkc_ any ideas how I can get my mouse to work?
[11:16] <RaringOne> marsfligth: gnome-tweak-tool
[11:19] <jassi_> hi ikonia
[11:19] <jassi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286725/
[11:19] <marsfligth> RaringOne: Thanks
[11:19] <jassi_> please chacek the output
[11:20] <jassi_> ?
[11:21] <google_360_baidu> what time ubuntu 12.10 will release
[11:21] <google_360_baidu> what time ubuntu 12.10 will release
[11:21] <google_360_baidu> who konw?
[11:21] <RaringOne> !isitout
[11:21] <google_360_baidu> ?
[11:21] <jassi_> hi
[11:22] <jassi_> please help me
[11:23] <trijntje> !ask | jassi_
[11:24] <jassi_> here is the problem : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286666/
[11:25] <sturmi> and again we can't do anything with that
[11:25] <sturmi> add the output of lspci for example
[11:25] <jassi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286725/
[11:25] <jassi_> stuemi see the output
[11:26] <nannes> bububububuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
[11:26] <nannes> no quantal no quantal no quantal
[11:26] <^moonriver^> hi all
[11:27] <jassi_> sturmi here is the o/p : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286725/
[11:29] <Kartagis> when I uninstalled nvidia, I got stuck with 720x400 as screen resolution
[11:29] <Kartagis> please help
[11:31] <marsfligth> RaringOne: Sorry, in my 'gnome-tweak-tool' there are no option to change default applications, in my case the default music player
[11:34] <jassi> is there to help me
[11:34] <sabdfl> are we there yet?
[11:35] <somsip> !isitout | sabdfl
[11:35] <jassi> here is my problem
[11:35] <jassi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286666/
[11:36] <trijntje> jassi: that's multiple problems actually
[11:37] <the_dark1knight> hey where do i get the name that I have as a root - /home/foo. I want to get foo without knowing what my root dir is. i have tried uname
[11:37] <trijntje> have you tried installing nonfree drivers for your wifi?
[11:37] <jassi> hm
[11:37] <jassi> what to do
[11:37] <jassi> ?
[11:37] <RaringOne> sabdfl: :)
[11:37] <blazemore> the_dark1knight: You can use ~ which is your home directory
[11:37] <sabdfl> nice nick, RaringOne
[11:37] <trijntje> the_dark1knight: what do you mean, the root dir is always /
[11:37] <RaringOne> sabdfl: Thank you sir.
[11:37] <blazemore> the_dark1knight: For example, ~/Music = /home/username/Music
[11:38] <blazemore> uname has nothing to do with it
[11:38] <RaringOne> sabdfl: you should come party with us in #ubuntu-release-party
[11:38] <trijntje> jassi: open update manager
[11:38] <sabdfl> RaringOne, am there already
[11:38] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:38] <jassi> internet is not working
[11:38] <the_dark1knight> trijntje: oh yeah forgot / is root . i meant home. my bad
[11:39] <trijntje> the_dark1knight: echo $USER
[11:39] <trijntje> jassi: wireless is not working, so you have to attach a network cable first
[11:40] <jassi> i treid data card
[11:40] <jassi> but not working
[11:40] <trijntje> jassi: data card?
[11:41] <jassi> dongle
[11:41] <jassi> relience dongle
[11:41] <the_dark1knight> trijntje: good
[11:42] <mamed> i wonder how much ram does ubuntu 1204 consume normally? my laptop has 1204 and it consumes 800 Mb and my ram is 2Gb
[11:42] <the_dark1knight> trijntje: can i use uname with some option and find out?
[11:42] <mamed> the_dark1knight: uname -a
[11:44] <mamed> i wonder how much ram does ubuntu 1204 consume normally? my laptop has 1204 and it consumes 800 Mb and my ram is 2Gb
[11:44] <trijntje> jassi: you have to use a  cable to install the wireless driver
[11:44] <the_dark1knight> mamed: no -a doesn't work
[11:45] <the_dark1knight> mamed: just wanted foo from /home/foo/
[11:45] <mamed> the_dark1knight: wht are you looking for
[11:45] <musa_> exit
[11:48] <happiness_design> hi
[11:51] <akis> any idea how can i disable windows minimize effect at gnome classic (no effects) under 12.04?
[11:55] <jmbZero> hi@all, any news about quantal release? :-)
[11:55] <Guillem_> akis, probably at metacity properties under gconf-editor
[11:55] <jmbZero> i just can't wait anymore
[11:55] <somsip> !isitout | jmbZero
[11:55] <Guillem_> akis,  there used to be a sort of  "low resources" settings
[11:56] <Guillem_> setting
[11:56] <akis> i look at this right now
[11:57] <jmbZero> somsip: thanks :-)
[11:57] <AxonetBE> is it possible to put in raid and SCSI disk with an SATA disk?
[11:57] <Guillem_> akis: gconf_editor->/aps/metacity/general/reduced_resources
[11:58] <akis> do i have to check it? probably yes?
[11:58] <Guillem_> akis, yes
[11:58] <ellorenz> Hi to all
[11:58] <akis> that it. great. now is working very very fast.
[11:58] <Guillem_> akis, the "long description" tells what it actually does
[11:59] <akis> yes i know. i used already gconfig to customize windos buttons form left to right.
[12:01] <marsfligth> Does exist a gui/frontend application to change defaults applications? Thanks
[12:02] <akis> one more question. when my gnome classic is loading 'konversation' or is emptying my trash in dolphin i can see in my panel running something starting from k...(must be a kde source). this doesnt happen under xcfe. is it possible to disable it? after some seconds it auto disappeares
[12:02] <stimpie> marsfligth, settings->details has default application
[12:03] <Fodi69> marsfligth: on the top right corner, you open Settings and there is a Details option on the bottom right corner
[12:03] <ovidiu^^> what's the channel for ubuntu 12.10?
[12:04] <k1l_> ovidiu^^: #ubuntu+1
[12:04] <ovidiu^^> thq
[12:04] <Dragonster82> Hey what's up people!
[12:04] <Dragonster82> How are all of you?
[12:04] <livingdaylight> Dragonster82, sup!
[12:04] <livingdaylight> !hi | Dragonster82
[12:05] <Dragonster82> Hey what's up livingdaylight ,do you have any problem?
[12:05] <Dragonster82> with ubuntu, etc.
[12:05] <riqdiiz> fine dragonster;)
[12:05] <livingdaylight> Dragonster82, yes, many.
[12:05] <Dragonster82> That's great riqdiiz!
[12:05] <Dragonster82> What problem do you have? I might be able to help you. @livingdaylight
[12:05] <livingdaylight> Dragonster82, I have xfce on my laptop
[12:06] <Dragonster82> Okay, and?
[12:06] <suigeneris> hi
[12:06] <[twisti]> is there any reason not to mount /tmp as a ramdisk, assuming i can spare the ram ?
[12:06] <Ansii> Hi all .. need help.. I have ubuntu12.04 LTS , have installed skype on it.. the problem is.. that every time i start skype and start video, the system randomly chrashes and reboots, it happens immediately when i try to share a file or screen thru skype.. anyone?
[12:06] <livingdaylight> Drag0nir, I don't know if it is a good choice. It's saying I don't have permission to 'hibernate' = weird
[12:06] <ellorenz> I need to create an hotspot wifi with apn, i have an intel interated wifi  somebody can help me?
[12:06] <marsfligth> stim and Fodi69, thanks, was under my eyes and I never seen. Great!
[12:07] <livingdaylight> Dragonster82, I don't know if it is a good choice. It's saying I don't have permission to 'hibernate' = weird
[12:07] <livingdaylight> Drag0nir, sorry
[12:07] <suigeneris> I uninstalled nvidia-* but nvidia-common, and now I'm stuck with 720x400 resolution. can you help?
[12:07] <Dragonster82> Whoa, that's weird livingdaylight, I have never seen an operating system not allowing you to hibernate, maybe it wants you to work. Haha.
[12:07] <livingdaylight> Dragonster82, also the Date is on top of the Time all scrunched up on the panel, instead side by side. Looking in preferences I don't see a solution
[12:08] <Ansii> Hi all .. need help.. I have ubuntu12.04 LTS , have installed skype on it.. the problem is.. that every time i start skype and start video, the system randomly chrashes and reboots, it happens immediately when i try to share a file or screen thru skype.. anyone?
[12:08] <riqdiiz> dragonster82;)is there a way of altering a machines IP?
[12:08] <livingdaylight> Dragonster82, yea, the slave master :/
[12:08] <Dragonster82> riqdiiz , do you mean the static IP or what?
[12:08] <riqdiiz> ye
[12:08] <livingdaylight> is today the release of quetzal?
[12:08] <Dragonster82> You can do that by accessing your router's localhost if I'm not wrong.
[12:08] <livingdaylight> quetzal is a bird?
[12:08] <Ansii> riqdiiz start using TOR :)
[12:09] <Dragonster82> livingdaylight have you done a complete re-installation of xcde
[12:09] <riqdiiz> Ansii wat is TOR?
[12:09] <livingdaylight> is this the quetzal bird we're naming our distro after? http://www.mayanmajix.com/lab_F1.html
[12:10] <livingdaylight> Dragonster82, its a fairly new/clean/fresh install - about 5 days old
[12:10] <Guillem_> akis, I would say that you have something in your session
[12:10] <Guillem_> try gnome-session-properties
[12:10] <Ansii> riqdiiz start using TOR .. TOR is a network application to hide ure IP info over the network.. which is made possible through a number of ways..
[12:11] <Ansii> riqdiiz visit the TOR site and you'll get to know what i mean..
[12:11] <Ansii> riqdiiz start using TOR .. TOR is a network application to hide ure IP info over the network.. which is made possible through a number of ways..
[12:11] <Guillem_> akis, kde has a GUI for the session as well, and as far as I can tell, they tend to mix things one to the other
[12:11] <Ansii> Hi all .. need help.. I have ubuntu12.04 LTS , have installed skype on it.. the problem is.. that every time i start skype and start video, the system randomly chrashes and reboots, it happens immediately when i try to share a file or screen thru skype.. anyone?
[12:11] <Eagleman> Any idea why my crontab backup job was executed each minute for 1 hour long? When i run the script mannualy it just runs one time:   *        4       *       *       3      /scripts/backups/configbackup
[12:11] <Dragonster82> livingdaylight, I think it may be a problem with your permissions.
[12:12] <riqdiiz> I'd be glad to know ;)
[12:12] <suigeneris> Eagleman: the first * means every minute
[12:12] <akis> gnome-session-properties opens my startup applications
[12:12] <Dragonster82> riqdiiz If you want to set your static IP, you have to access your localhost, which by default would be <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:13] <Guillem_> akis, check there is no entry with a "k..." at the beginning
[12:13] <Guillem_> akis, just a gess
[12:13] <Guillem_> guess
[12:13] <suigeneris> I uninstalled nvidia-* but nvidia-common, and now I'm stuck with 720x400 resolution. can you help?
[12:13] <akis> Guillem_: nothing. i have only thunderbird and nvidia driver
[12:13] <Ansii> Hi all .. need help.. I have ubuntu12.04 LTS , have installed skype on it.. the problem is.. that every time i start skype and start video, the system randomly chrashes and reboots, it happens immediately when i try to share a file or screen thru skype.. anyone? please someone help
[12:13] <Guillem_> akis, OK, forget it
[12:13] <Eagleman> suigeneris doesnt it mean on which minute of the hour like 3:30?
[12:14] <suigeneris> Eagleman: then it has to be 30 15 * * *
[12:14] <Guillem_> akis, I would say that when you start a KDE app (konversation, dolphin, ...) it does start some KDE services. What you see is that.
[12:14] <suigeneris> Eagleman: if you want it to run on 3:30PM every day
[12:14] <Ansii> Hi all .. need help.. I have ubuntu12.04 LTS , have installed skype on it.. the problem is.. that every time i start skype and start video, the system randomly chrashes and reboots, it happens immediately when i try to share a file or screen thru skype.. anyone? please someone help.. i have a HPDV61152TX machine
[12:14] <akis> Guillem_: yes thats right. but it happens only in gnome classic. not in unity, not in gnome 3 and as i wrote already not in xcfe under xubuntu 12.04. why?
[12:15] <Eagleman> *        4       *       *       3      /scripts/backups/configbackup   gets executed on wednesday night on 4:00, i have no idea why it just keeps going for an hour
[12:15] <Guillem_> akis, probably what happens is that xfce and gnome-3 don't care to show that in their "systray" whereas gnome-classic uses an older "systray" concept that gets puzzled and shows that
[12:16] <Guillem_> akis, very few people use gnome-classic, you know...
[12:16] <Eagleman> I had like 60 files in the configbackup directory, each different with one minute
[12:17] <suigeneris> Eagleman: do you want it to run at 4AM every Wednesday?
[12:17] <Eagleman> Yes
[12:17] <suigeneris> Eagleman: try 00 4 * * 3
[12:18] <mure> ciao
[12:18] <mure> list
[12:18] <suigeneris> Eagleman: or 00 4 * * wed
[12:18] <dr_willis> no file listing here mure
[12:18] <suigeneris> !list | mure
[12:19] <akis> i am came in gnome classic because i am dissapointed from both unity and gnome 3. Actually i am running gnome like xcfe because i don't have the courage to fresh install xubuntu 12.04.
[12:19] <Eagleman> suigeneris i will try   30       14      *       *       4      /scripts/backups/configbackup
[12:19] <Eagleman> So it will run in like 11 minutes
[12:19] <Eagleman> thursday 14:30
[12:19] <suigeneris> dr_willis: can you help me?
[12:20] <dr_willis> suigeneris:   depends on the issue.
[12:20] <suigeneris> Eagleman: use 30 14 * * * thu just in case
[12:20] <samuel> argh, i upgraded to the beta of 12.10 and everything was fine, today whole bunch of updates with the release and now none of my proprietary drivers are activated and my touchpad doesnt work waaahhhh :P
[12:20] <suigeneris> dr_willis: uninstalled nvidia-* but nvidia-common, and now I'm stuck with 720x400 resolution. can you help?
[12:20] <samuel> who's bright idea was it to remove jockey
[12:20] <dr_willis> why did you uninstall them suigeneris ?
[12:20] <Dragonster82> I have no idea samuel .
[12:21] <maxvi> When will be released ubuntu 12.10?
[12:21] <Eagleman> 30       14      *       *       thu    /scripts/backups/configbackup
[12:21] <suigeneris> I'm trying to use nouveau (I think that's the opensource driver)
[12:21] <Eagleman> Now i have to wait
[12:21] <samuel> i just downloaded it from the software center and got my wifi going again (had to tether to my phone to do it though)
[12:21] <suigeneris> maxvi: /j #ubuntu-release-party
[12:21] <maxvi> Thanks
[12:21] <suigeneris> dr_willis: I'm trying to use nouveau (I think that's the opensource driver)
[12:22] <dr_willis> suigeneris:  that   would be the default. but why use it if the nvidia driver works
[12:22] <suigeneris> dr_willis: otherwise xen shuts down the monitor
[12:22] <Dragonster82> I can help you suigeneris
[12:22] <dr_willis> suigeneris:  check your x logs to see what driver is being used now
[12:22] <suigeneris> Dragonster82: please do
[12:23] <Dragonster82> Hang on suigeneris
[12:23] <suigeneris> dr_willis: sudo lshw -C display says nouveau
[12:23] <suigeneris> brb, getting coffee
[12:23] <faoiseamh> my ubuntu server is crashing / locking up occasionally (every 1-3 days) with nothing in syslog / kern.log. It has tons of memory + idle cpu + disk space. Short of a hardware test, what can I do to debug this?
[12:24] <toremirk> faoiseamh: do a memtest.
[12:25] <mure> hallo
[12:25] <toremirk> ehlo
[12:25] <mure> list
[12:25] <Dragonster82> suigeneris are you back?
[12:25] <Fluggs> hi
[12:26] <mure> quasi amici
[12:26] <Fluggs> is it right that 12.10 release is today?
[12:26] <Dragonster82> Hello there fluggs
[12:26] <GoodHeartedGuy> hi.. ubuntu 12.10 still not uploaded .. any idea when will it be released?
[12:26] <cdavis> I just have no patience on release day either
[12:27] <suigeneris> I'm back
[12:27] <Dragonster82> Are you there suigeneris?
[12:27] <Dragonster82> Okay, good.
[12:27] <GoodHeartedGuy> i am going crazy !!!! ..
[12:27] <FlyingElvis> whats the name of the launch party channel?
[12:27] <suigeneris> FlyingElvis: #ubuntu-release-party
[12:28] <FlyingElvis> ty suigeneris
[12:28] <Dragonster82> I want you to open up terminal, type in this: "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"  remove the quotes of course. Then go to the monitor lines , and overwrite these two lines : HorizSync and VertRefresh with this:
[12:28] <nikolam> I have message: "Processing was halted because there were too many errors." while updating from 10.04 LTS 64-bit to 12.04 , while pulseaudio is using 100% CPU (both cores).. What should I do now (Seems like upgrade is at the end)...
[12:28] <Dragonster82>     HorizSync       30.0 - 83.0
[12:28] <Dragonster82>     VertRefresh     56.0 - 75.0
[12:29] <Dragonster82> @nikolam try restarting?
[12:29] <phet> Hi. I installed w7 in a disk, and then linux in another disk. Linux says the disk with linux is sda and the one with w7 is sdb, but I cannot boot w7, grub2 doesnt seem to detect it, its like it doesnt exist, but I can see it with gparted (the other disk)
[12:29] <savio> hello
[12:29] <Dragonster82> Hello there savio.
[12:29] <GoodHeartedGuy> the release date of ubuntu 12.10 is today only right???
[12:29] <Dragonster82> @GoodHeartedGuy google it.
[12:29] <suigeneris> Dragonster82: then?
[12:29] <Dragonster82> suigeneris I'll PM you the steps again.
[12:30] <suigeneris> GoodHeartedGuy: /j #ubuntu-release-party
[12:30] <savio> Dragonster82, hey
[12:30] <suigeneris> Dragonster82: I did those changes, what now?
[12:30] <GoodHeartedGuy> Dragonster82: it says today.. and its not uploaded yet !
[12:31] <nikolam> Dragonster82, problem is, will everything be allright after it?
[12:31] <somsip> !isitout
[12:31] <Dragonster82> nikolam : what were we speaking about again?
[12:31] <suigeneris> GoodHeartedGuy: it's today sometime between now and 23:59:59 (quoting the /topic)
[12:32] <Dragonster82> Suigeneris : reboot
[12:32] <suigeneris> brb
[12:32] <Eagleman> suigeneris you were right:   http://pastebin.com/Hf7hEdp0
[12:32] <Eagleman> And the config backups only exists one time
[12:32] <nikolam> Dragonster82, upgrade process halted with pulseaudio 100%
[12:32] <nikolam> now precise process is using 100%
[12:33] <nikolam> "Processing was halted because there were too many errors."
[12:33] <xuqindong> Hi
[12:33] <Dragonster82> @Nikolam: I have no idea what the problem is.
[12:33] <Dragonster82> Why don't you PM me the errors
[12:33] <nikolam> Dragonster82, but you suggested restarting. Thanks for it.
[12:33] <Dragonster82> nikolam restarting MIGHT fix it.
[12:34] <nikolam> khm. khm, I guess I MIGHT be thankful this is not the server I am upgrading.
[12:34] <Kartagis> yay!
[12:35] <Kartagis> Dragonster82: I'm suigeneris, thanks it worked
[12:35] <Dragonster82> No problem kartagis.
[12:35] <Kartagis> now I'm using nouveau and I have 1380x768 screen res
[12:36] <Dragonster82> That's great to hear Kartagis.
[12:36] <Kartagis> now to find out if sen works alright
[12:36] <Dragonster82> Or rather, read.
[12:36] <Kartagis> the only glitch is, it gives me horizontal stripes on the screen at splash screen
[12:37] <Kartagis> that's acceptable I guess
[12:37] <Kartagis> or is it?
[12:37] <nikolam>   Package libkparts4 is not configured yet.
[12:37] <nikolam>  kate depends on libktexteditor4 (>= 4:4.8.1); however:
[12:37] <nikolam>   Package libktexteditor4 is not configured yet.
[12:37] <nikolam>  kate depends on libplasma3 (>= 4:4.8.1); however:
[12:37] <FloodBot1> nikolam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:37] <nikolam>   Package libplasma3 is not configured yet.
[12:37] <nikolam>  kate depends on libqt4-qt3support (>= 4:4.5.3); however:
[12:37] <Dragonster82> I have no idea about that one, Kartagis, because I've used that method to fix my laptop, too. It had no problems.
[12:37] <ruscour> !party
[12:37] <Kartagis> !paste | nikolam
[12:38] <Kartagis> brb, to check xen
[12:38] <Dragonster82> Okay kartagis.
[12:38] <onats> where is the download for the new version?
[12:38] <amac> is 12.10 coming out today?
[12:38] <Dragonster82> New version of what, onats? You can check out all the version at www.ubuntu.com
[12:39] <nikolam> Anyway it is restarting. in GU now. After waited for precise process to stop (after killing sound)
[12:39] <amac> I am looking forward to new amazon feature. It will help me find things I need to buy.
[12:39] <onats> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-takes-flight-with-a-bag-full-of-juju/
[12:39] <onats> so it hasn't been released?
[12:39]  * nikolam is sorry again for flooding I thought I send /msg.
[12:39] <jingjong> hi
[12:40] <tsimpson> onats: sometime later today
[12:40] <Dragonster82> Hello there jingjong.
[12:40] <amac> what would be better is if ubuntu would periodically give you full screen ads of products which you might want based on your usage habits
[12:40] <onats> tsimpson: ok thanks. are you familiar with juju and openstack?
[12:40] <onats> anyone familiar with that? openstack + juju?
[12:40] <tsimpson> onats: I'm not, no
[12:40] <onats> !juju
[12:41] <Kartagis> yay! I'm using nvidia with open source drivers, on 1320x640 screen resolution AND on xen kernel
[12:41] <mtx1980> hi ppl
[12:42] <mtx1980> anyonde there?
[12:42] <Eagleman> !ask
[12:42] <oDiafanos> !πατιενψε
[12:43] <oDiafanos> !patience
[12:44] <phet> any help with linux seems unable to detect w7 in sub?
[12:44] <phet> sdb sorry
[12:45] <osteenbergen> phenom, what commands are you running?
[12:45] <osteenbergen> phenom, sorry should be phet
[12:46] <kuukie> hey guys, does anybody know when the ubuntu 12.10 final version will be there to download?
[12:46] <phet> osteenbergen: I just installed it, and it is not detected. So I tried os-prove, it doesnt find it
[12:47] <osteenbergen> phet, so windows was installed and then you added ubuntu or did you already have an installation?
[12:47] <locherm> kuukie, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[12:47] <phet> osteenbergen: I had 2 empty disks. I installed windows in 1, then linux in the other
[12:48] <kuukie> it should be released today but it isnt there until know
[12:48] <osteenbergen> phet, I got both on a single disk multiple partitions and it auto detected them... looking for the command to update grub
[12:48] <locherm> kuukie, according to the link i just posted it should be release next week
[12:49] <kuukie> hmpf...okay thanks
[12:49] <locherm> np
[12:49] <somsip> locherm: it's 18th Oct, sometime
[12:49] <phet> osteenbergen: my problem is that I have both systems in different disks, and it seems to fail to detect it
[12:50] <Papa> elooo is ubuntu 12.10 available for download if yes please give me links
[12:50] <theadmin> Papa: Not yet.
[12:50] <somsip> !isitout | Papa
[12:50] <osteenbergen> phet, and you are sure you installed grub on the correct disk?
[12:50] <Papa> how many hrs left?
[12:50] <somsip> Papa: more
[12:51] <Papa> any ideas how many more hours?
[12:51] <osteenbergen> phet, http://askubuntu.com/questions/197868/grub-does-not-detect-windows
[12:51] <somsip> Papa: no. it will be out when it's out
[12:51] <kuukie> locherm, according to that site it sould be released today
[12:51] <phet> osteenbergen: grub is installed in the linux disk
[12:51] <osteenbergen> phet, basically run "sudo os-prober" and check if it sees windows
[12:51] <Papa> some wbesites saying ubuntu 12.10 is available for download
[12:51] <somsip> !isitout | Papa
[12:52] <Papa> but when i go to download 12.04.1
[12:52] <osteenbergen> phet, mine says: "/dev/sda2:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain"
[12:52] <joker__> hello i have a problem witch my ubuntu 10.10 i'm know is old one but i dont have so good internet conect to update it
[12:52] <locherm> the ubuntu wiki says it's going to be release next week
[12:52] <theadmin> Papa: "Some sites" aren't a trustable source. ubuntu.com is. It's NOT out.
[12:52] <somsip> Papa: it is not out yet. It could be any minute, or it could be a while
[12:52] <Treaver> Umm where is the release at for 12.10??? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[12:52] <phet> osteenbergen: this is my exact same error (the link you pasted)
[12:52] <Papa> xD
[12:52] <joker__> my problem is witch libusb-dev i can't to install it
[12:53] <osteenbergen> phet, follow the steps and vote if it works ;)
[12:53] <Papa> 12.04 gave me problems so can't wait
[12:53] <theadmin> joker__: That's not surprising. 10.10 is not supported, the repos are no longer around.
[12:53] <phet> osteenbergen: I will try, thank you, I have the computer in another office lol
[12:53] <theadmin> joker__: Upgrade or, well...
[12:53] <Papa> phoronix is saying unity is lower than kde is it true
[12:53] <Papa> slower
[12:53] <osteenbergen> phet, your welcome
[12:53] <theadmin> Papa: Probably depends on your hardware... For me, yes, it is.
[12:54] <Papa> huh kde is fast than gnome based unity ?
[12:54] <ItsAllGoneWierd> hi, if i make changes like installing wifi drivers while running linux from USB, those changes will be permanent, right?
[12:54] <joker__> sad its no way to install libusb-dev i need to switchmode on my huawei modem
[12:54] <Papa> ubuntu 12.10 will ship with which kernel any ideas ?
[12:55] <theadmin> !info linux-image-generic quantal | Papa
[12:55] <Papa> kk
[12:55] <Papa> what do u think abt amazon integration ?
[12:55] <Papa> some people not liking it
[12:55] <Dragonster82> Whoa, "Papa", what a nice name.
[12:56] <theadmin> Papa: Please refrain from offtopic discussion. This channel is support only. Quantal discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 until release.
[12:56] <Papa> dragonstar this is my real nickname :)
[12:56] <Treaver>  /join #Ubuntu+1
[12:59] <ibere_SP> hi folks. what's the current, stable and supported java to install on ubuntu 12.04: openjdk-7-jre or openjdk-6-jre?
[13:00] <theadmin> ibere_SP: Both are stable and supported, just choose the one that fits your needs better. I'd go with 6 myself, 7 still has some problems even upstream.
[13:00] <wols> !java
[13:01] <hackeron> anyone know of a PPA that has ffmpeg 1.0?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:03] <ibere_SP> i was reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java but i'm confused once in Synaptics there's an Ubuntu icon saying only openjdk-6-jre is supported...
[13:04] <CorrupterThelost> how do i get a voice?
[13:04] <CorrupterThelost> oh nevermind.
[13:04] <CorrupterThelost> good day everyone.
[13:04] <theadmin> CorrupterThelost: Hello.
[13:04] <Ramsed>  /join #Ubuntu+1
[13:05] <CorrupterThelost> java 7 is still pretty new
[13:05] <CorrupterThelost> might be some time until it is fully adopted and updated in synaptics.
[13:07] <Eagleman> How do i create a user and group in one command? like what happend when i had to fill in a username on startup
[13:08] <Eagleman> when installing*
[13:08] <drag0nius> is there something extra i need to do to run /etc/cron.d/ folder?
[13:09] <drag0nius> i've file containing http://pastebin.com/BPmNLM7t but it never runs
[13:09] <iceroot> drag0nius: just install cron and cron will execute the files in /etc/cron.d/ when they have the correct syntax
[13:10] <drag0nius> i have it installed
[13:10] <Naeblis> Hi. I want to connect an external monitor with my Compaq laptop, but I keep getting a blank monitor. The Display settings also don't show the second monitor as being detected. I'm using nvidia proprietary drivers. Any help?
[13:10] <iceroot> drag0nius: /var/log/syslog  should show the script (imo)
[13:10] <drag0nius> tried restarting with sudo service cron restart
[13:10] <drag0nius> but still nothing
[13:10] <CorrupterThelost> eagleman side chat me.
[13:10] <Guillem_> Naeblis, nvidia-settings
[13:11] <htraki> What is the release time today for 12.10?
[13:11] <Eagleman> what CorrupterThelost?
[13:11] <Guillem_> Naeblis, setup the external monitor there
[13:11] <Guillem_> Naeblis, "Display settings" is OK for oss drivers but I think it does not work OK with nvidia proprietary
[13:11] <dontknow> i will try to build chromium
[13:11] <Ivani> Hello folks...
[13:11] <Zybe> How do I open a application from terminal without the terminal beeing connected to the application?
[13:11] <Naeblis> Guillem_, thanks!  Hope the message is clear though.
[13:13] <zykotick9> Naeblis: be sure you are using nvidia-settings, and enable the monitor in there
[13:13] <Zybe> huggy-bear: If I do that and then close the terminal the application closes to.
[13:14] <theadmin> Zybe: application &disown
[13:14] <theadmin> Zybe: Then close the terminal.
[13:14] <Qaa> o/
[13:15] <Naeblis> Guillem_, seems to be working. At least the monitor is showing something other than blank. :)
[13:15] <zykotick9> Zybe: you might want to try "nohup rhythmbox" then try closing the terminal, and see if rhythmbox stays open...
[13:15] <theadmin> Zybe: (or yeah, if "application" is already running, then nohup it)
[13:17] <phet> osteenbergen: no luck with that. I have tried other things and nothing. I can see the partition and mount it, but os-probe won't recognize it
[13:18] <osteenbergen> phet, maybe the bootloader of windows 7 is corrupt so the partition doesn't register as a windows
[13:18] <Guillem_> Naeblis, in twinview mode, the monitor extends the desktop. You may change the relative position and/or overlay them. Drag windows to make them show at the other monitor.
[13:18] <CorrupterThelost> bootloader of windows 7 goes corrupt alot and is easily fixable.
[13:18] <phet> osteenbergen: I havent touch anything in that other disk
[13:18] <theadmin> phet: Have you maybe removed the boot partition?
[13:19] <theadmin> phet: Windows installs it's bootloader to a separate, 100MB partition, for EFI compatibility.
[13:19] <phet> boort partition? the one created by the installer? no, it's there
[13:19] <Guillem_> Naeblis, you may also clone the monitors (useful for presentations with a beamer)
[13:19] <CorrupterThelost> windows uses a small 100-350 MB partition for the bootloader or places a file called boot which is hidden on the first primary partition of that disk
[13:19] <phet> theadmin: I have a disk with w7 and a disk with linux. I didnt touch the w7 disk at all
[13:19] <CorrupterThelost> did you do anything to change that?
[13:20] <CorrupterThelost> oh i see, you say you installed win7 and then disconnected it while installing linux and then plugged it back in and tried to register it with grub?
[13:20] <phet> CorrupterThelost: no, both were contected while I installed linux
[13:20] <phet> but linux was installed in another disk
[13:20] <akis> hi all. althougt i installed en_US while i installed my system now this is 'gray" and everything is running under en_UK. How can i re-load en_US?
[13:20] <osteenbergen> phet, there is also boot-repair to help diagnose some issues: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Info#Step_2_-_Install_Boot-Repair
[13:22] <JoeyJoeJo> How do I save static routes so I don't have to re-enter them after every reboot?
[13:23] <susuke> hi .... how can i remove rhythmbox from volume indicator and also want to replace vlc insteam of rhythmbox. can anyone tell me
[13:24] <BluesKaj> phet , which media did you use to install ubuntu ?
[13:25] <theadmin> susuke: Not really possible -- Ubuntu developers developed it specifically for RB I'd think.
[13:25] <truexfan81> i have buntu 12.04 on my pc, i have a samba share setup. On my netbook i dualboot 12.04 and xp. 12.04 does not see the samba share, xp sees it and can access it
[13:25] <truexfan81> whats up with that?
[13:25] <susuke> theadmin, oh .. ok
[13:27] <ubsrv> Hi, trying to install a packet using apt-get , im geting this error
[13:27] <ubsrv> http://pastebin.com/YJFSsWuV
[13:28] <bkfitz> Need help: Using 12.04 Classic with Compiz but the 'grid' effect (snap windows to 1/2 screen) is not working even though it is enabled in Compiz Config Settings Manager.  Anyone have any ideas???
[13:30] <truexfan81> anyone?
[13:30] <bkfitz> Crazy... now it's working
[13:30] <bkfitz> sporatically
[13:30] <Index> hey
[13:30] <BluesKaj> phet  booy into th elive cd or usb and open a terminal , run sudo fdisk -l to determine the assigned device designation /dev/sdX of your ubuntu install , X being a letter /dev/sda or b or c etc ..then in the terminal run , sudo grub-install /dev/sdX , that should reinstall grub and it should show the OSs on your system
[13:31] <bkfitz> its working with some windows but not others...
[13:31] <bkfitz> xchat = working
[13:31] <BluesKaj> err boot into a live cd or ..
[13:31] <bkfitz> chrome = not working
[13:31] <bkfitz> firefox = working - wt?
[13:32] <truexfan81> more info: netbook does not show the share when i do smbtree either
[13:33] <Index> does nobody actually talk in this chat? O_o
[13:33] <CrypticS_> Index: did you have a question of some kind?
[13:33] <Index> nah i  just want to kill some time instead of do college work
[13:34] <Pici> Index: Its a support channel, if you're looking for general chat, theres #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-release-party (though thats just for today)
[13:34] <DJones> Index: You may want to join #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-release-party for general chat
[13:34] <Index> ah ok, thanks man :D
[13:38] <zoktar> So did everyone read about the  ubuntu phone & tablet?, im excited! i was wondering if someone more knowledgable could tell me how hard/easy/possible it would be to run existing android apps on such a device? and or how much work would need to be put in to port existing android apps to work with a ubuntu phone / tablet. since its all linux based and whatnot.
[13:39] <truexfan81> well since i'm being ignored i'll just leave
[13:41] <daviddoria> has anyone successfully compiled gcc 7.2 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[13:44] <flomoto> hi everybody. Release after release, I see less and less infatuation around a new ubuntu version. And for 12.10, it's even worse : no countdown on websites, nobody seems to be waiting for it. Today, the 12.10 is supposed to be released, and no one care. Does it mean people are disappointed by unity ? Or some kind of hype effect about ubuntu born in 2006 or so has vanished ? I don't know.
[13:45] <kroson> Hello, where is ubuntu 12.10? xD
[13:45] <Pici> flomoto: This isn't a discussion channel.  If you want to talk about the release theres #ubuntu-release-party
[13:45] <Pici> kroson: ITs not out yet.
[13:46] <flomoto> Pici: pffff......
[13:46] <jrzabott> flomoto: In my ludricous opinion... After I installed kubuntu-desktop, i'm a bit disapointed with unity... The average response speed in everything is very slow in my old notebook... =( I do believe in unity, but in this moment I choose kubuntu-desktop.
[13:54] <akis> i am running gnome classic on 12.04. every time i launch a kde application i see in my bottom panel 'launching kde global shortcuts server'. is it possible to disable this?
[13:55] <Basit> hello, I want to ask something
[13:55] <belgianguy> !isitout
[13:55] <belgianguy> dangit
[13:56] <Basit> At what time (in GMT) will Ubuntu 12.10 release?
[13:56] <kroson> Basit: the time is: When it's done :). Be patient
[13:57] <Basit> can you tell me the exact time of ubuntu release party?
[13:58] <compdoc> Basit, its invite only
[13:58] <compdoc> only the cool ppl are allowed
[13:58] <ludolan> Hi, is it possible to put ubuntu iso on an USB key WITH the last updates ?
[13:59] <Basit> I know that, just tell me when 12.10 will be out.
[13:59] <ZahnPastor> Does anyone know the exact time for the ubuntu 12.10 update? In european time?
[13:59] <Basit> in GMT +5:00
[13:59] <Pici> ZahnPastor, Basit: There is no preset time.  It will be out when its done.
[14:00] <ZahnPastor> :C
[14:00] <Basit> OK, so what are the new features in 12.10?
[14:00] <fidel_> Basit: #ubuntu+1 ;)
[14:01] <fidel_> as this channel is always focusing on the current version
[14:01] <arunkumar413> hi, is ubuntu 12.10 released?
[14:01] <fidel_> and #ubuntu+1 on the coming one
[14:01] <Vegancheesesteak> i think this is an apt-get question... what is the command to remove unused old kernel based files? my /boot is getting bloated.
[14:01] <Myrtti> arunkumar413: no set time.
[14:02] <arunkumar413> Myrtti, today is the release date, right?
[14:02] <Myrtti> arunkumar413: yes.
[14:03] <Basit> 12.10 will be launched tomorrow, according to softpedia.com's link: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-12-10-Is-Now-in-Final-Freeze-Launches-Tomorrow-300194.shtml
[14:03] <fidel_> never trust softpedia ;)
[14:04] <Myrtti> Basit: when was the article published?
[14:04] <fidel_> they write tones of wrong infos about apps theyhavent even talked to the dev or anyone else ... at least thats my experience with them ;)
[14:06] <huggy-bear> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[14:11] <jono> hey
[14:11] <jono> can someone set the topic to: 12.10 Release Party in #ubuntu-release-party
[14:12] <Pici> jono: *poof*
[14:13] <jono> Pici, you rock
[14:13] <jono> as ever :-)
[14:13] <ogra_> thx !
[14:13] <arunkumar413> in how many hours will the new version release
[14:14] <iceroot> arunkumar413: when its done
[14:14] <arunkumar413> iceroot, but today is the release date
[14:14] <kroson> For people here that (plan to) use Ubuntu as main OS and Windows for gaming, what % of your disk do you give to your NTFS partition(s)? Thank you
[14:15] <Odd-rationale> kroson: How large is your drive?
[14:15] <kroson> Odd-rationale: 500 GB
[14:15] <kroson> windows will be only for games, ubuntu for everything else :)
[14:15] <masterfaster> Kardos: 20 Gig for Windows + X Gig for games
[14:15] <marsfligth> How can I avoid that the background output of my croned bash scripts as root aren't saved into the root mail?
[14:16] <kroson> masterfaster: what is X Gig?
[14:16] <masterfaster> kroson: if you have 50 Gig of Games you need 50 Gig :)
[14:16] <iceroot> arunkumar413: and my argument is still valid
[14:17] <kroson> any space? i wanted opions on what that X should be, without being less than needed but also not more
[14:17] <Odd-rationale> kroson: Yeah, depends how much games you have.
[14:17] <iceroot> kroson: we dont know which games you are using, so its your choice about the size
[14:17] <masterfaster> kroson: 10 gigs for a modern game
[14:17] <arunkumar413> iceroot, u mean that it could be postponed
[14:18] <wols> kroson: 20GB for windows is way too small. and games should be on the same partitions as movies, music, etc. aka "whatever is left". hundreds of GBs or even TBs
[14:18] <iceroot> arunkumar413: i mean this channel is for 12.04 and because 12.10 is not released yet and everyone is askinig when does 12.10 comes out, we dont like these kinds of questions because when it is there you will see it because of that "its done when its done"
[14:19] <wols> masterfaster: > /dev/null  in the crontab
[14:19] <wols> kroson: I suggest 100GB for windows and its programs (browsers, office, IDEs,...), 20GB for ubuntu depending how much data you have there and rest for games,movies, etc
[14:19] <awestroke> kroson: for reference, my virtual windows 7 image (compressed, few programs), is 24 GB
[14:20] <the000owl> f
[14:20] <the000owl> f
[14:20] <the000owl> f
[14:20] <FloodBot1> the000owl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:22] <kroson> wols: thank you, i was thinking about something around those sizes too
[14:22] <AcidHaze> ihave an issue : using 12.04 on an asus x401a * Model * where no media cards will mount manually or auto mount i have tried writing in the fstab but still no go
[14:23] <masterfaster> wols: he only wants win for games. i have the same setup and my win7 partition uses 16 gig
[14:23] <Virunga> Hi, is Ubuntu One Music Store available in Europe, specifically in Italy?
[14:23] <Myrtti> Virunga: it works fine in Finland.
[14:24] <Rutz> Hello
[14:24] <awestroke> Hello Rutz
[14:24] <Virunga> Myrtti: did you buy music?
[14:24] <wols> masterfaster: my \windows alone uses 27GB I think. then add pagefile, c:\programs etc. remember: windows "solved" DLL hell by keeping ALL dlls it ever encounters forever and using hardlinks.typically awful MSFT "solution" to a problem. the end result is that \windows always, always increases it's size on disk
[14:24] <Myrtti> Virunga: yes.
[14:24] <Virunga> Myrtti: cool, euros or dollars?
[14:25] <Myrtti> Virunga: euros.
[14:25] <Virunga> That's a nice service.
[14:25] <dArKd3ViL> #ubuntu-release-party is going crazy
[14:25] <Virunga> I'll try it.
[14:25] <Virunga> Myrtti: thanks.
[14:25] <kroson> masterfaster: 16gb is the default install. If you apply updates and install programs it will increase
[14:25] <kroson> the windows folder
[14:26] <wols> kroson: we are very very much OT :)
[14:27] <kroson> wols: we're talking about dual booting xD
[14:27] <Rutz> wow..ther's much traffic in the #ubuntu-release-party .. and here..oh god..this wonderful silence <3 :D
[14:27] <ncopa> hi
[14:28] <ncopa> congrats with 12.10
[14:28] <masterfaster> kroson: i dont know, i checked, its 16 GB including drivers, libreoffice, firefox, gimp2
[14:28] <kroson> masterfaster: i'd say that you installed a lite version
[14:28] <sbietho> Hi, I am having issues compiling a vb.net project with monodevelop, anyone can help?
[14:28] <masterfaster> kroson: nope :)
[14:28] <kroson> but let's leave offtopic and start partying xD
[14:29] <masterfaster> kroson: ha
[14:29] <ncopa> anyone knows if ubuntu 12.10 uses less, more or about the same of memory than 12.04?
[14:29] <ncopa> 12.04 is at the limit on my wifes pc
[14:29] <himanshu_linux> i love ubuntu . :)
[14:29] <ncopa> and i cannot add more ram :-(
[14:29] <kroson> ncopa: around the same
[14:29] <cerrajero> hi
[14:29] <wols> ncopa: new OS rarely uses less...
[14:30] <akis> suddenly my system 12.04 lost the greek names of my files and has unrecognizesd characters and the files cannot be opened. any idea to fix ti?
[14:30] <Rutz> the shit about 12.10 ist, that it does not support unity2d
[14:30] <wols> ncopa: then you need to cut down a few programs she might not need
[14:30] <bazhang> Rutz, no cursing here
[14:30] <RaringOne> !language | Rutz
[14:30] <kroson> if i were to risk 'more or less', i would say less
[14:30] <ncopa> wols: it happens apps does mem optimizing
[14:30] <Myrtti> Rutz: I'm sceptical about your claim, and you can continue that discussion elsewhere
[14:30] <wols> ncopa: sure, but new features need more RAM. no way around that
[14:31] <kroson> ncopa: or use xubuntu xD. Even kde probably will be faster than unity at this stage
[14:31] <Rutz> :D
[14:31] <wols> otoh you could go to top, sort for memory and maybe cut some useless weeds out of that tree
[14:31] <ncopa> tried that
[14:31] <ncopa> and i use xfce myself
[14:31] <dubac0_> !gpg
[14:31] <ncopa> but its for my wife :-/
[14:32] <ncopa> ubuntu used to be ideal for her
[14:32] <zalgor> is there a way to reduce the high number of continuing requests by the print interface (unity/gnome/kde) to cupsserver? Out of technical reason we are using "servername printerserver" and not "servername localhost". Opening a printer selection box is like a DOS-Attack to our cupsserver.
[14:32] <kroson> ncopa: if she likes unity, and LTS works fine, just keep it
[14:32] <huggy-bear> ncopa: if it's for your wife, why not stick to ubuntu 12.04 and unity2d? is there a reason you really need 12.10?
[14:32] <huggy-bear> ncopa: 5 years of support!
[14:33] <ncopa> no, that was my question, actually, should i bother upgrade it...
[14:33] <Artheist> hi all
[14:33] <ncopa> she was not too happy when i upgraded to 12.04
[14:33] <kroson> i believe your wife won't need any of the new features of 12.10, so probably no :)
[14:33] <huggy-bear> ncopa: nope.
[14:33] <caycep> if i do apt-get —no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop, i get unity w/o all the extra apps and the shopping bits?
[14:33] <dr_willis> home users really need 5 years of support?
[14:33] <wols> ncopa: I would wait around 1 maybe 2 months before considering to upgrade to a new ubuntu release. they need the time to fix their bugs
[14:33] <ncopa> yeah
[14:33] <the_dark1knight> why this error when starting apache2ctl http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286999/
[14:33] <ncopa> good idea
[14:33] <wols> dr_willis: yes they do :)
[14:34] <huggy-bear> you will always have the latest firefox and thunderbird, lots of other apps are available through PPAs or elswhere if you really need to upgrade them, so why bother with 12.10?
[14:34] <kroson> ncopa: is she used to windows? if so, you could use kubuntu and personalize it to look & fell more similar to windows
[14:34] <Artheist> I just did an update of my system 12.04, it broke my git package ...
[14:34] <ncopa> and btw, she has asked if its long to next ubuntu release
[14:34] <ncopa> she used windows long time ago
[14:34] <wols> dr_willis: the less stuff changes for my aunt, the better. if it worked, I would want 10 years of support and upgrade only her browser
[14:34] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Hello
[14:34] <ncopa> 4-5 years ago
[14:34] <Artheist> does this issue has to do with the 12.10 release today ?
[14:34] <ncopa> been ubuntu since
[14:34] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I have some big trouble
[14:34] <t4nk803> does anybody know when ubuntu 10.04 LTS is not supported anymore?
[14:34] <t4nk803> I mean the exact date?
[14:34] <geecat> How can i install eclipse 4.1 in ubuntu 12.04?
[14:34] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Umm, it won't let me change my Window Stlye.
[14:34] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It's stuck on this one only.
[14:35] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I want to change it to Mac-Style buttons
[14:35] <iceroot> t4nk803: when 13.04 (15.04) will be releases
[14:35] <ncopa> kroson, kubuntu might be an option yes
[14:35] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Help?
[14:35] <JMS32> Hello. My PC on ubuntu freeze. All that i can see is just a black screen. No response to keyboard/mouse. How to know why? It's not first time.
[14:35] <kroson> ncopa: so if she likes the gnome way of using things, personalize gnome fallback for her, or use cinnamon
[14:35] <kroson> or keep unity
[14:35] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I have some big trouble
[14:35] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Umm, it won't let me change my Window Stlye.
[14:35] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Help?
[14:35] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I want to change it to Mac-Style buttons
[14:35] <geecat> I tried lot I am able to execute eclipse using ./eclipse but icon doesn't show in the launcher
[14:36] <geecat> can any one help
[14:36] <geecat> ?
[14:36] <kroson> Linux is all about choice. If you can't decide just give her different options for her to try and let her decide
[14:36] <t4nk803> iceroot: No, when 10.04 LTS will not be supported anymore.
[14:36] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I want to change it to Mac-Style buttons
[14:36] <huggy-bear> t4nk803: all i can see is April 2013
[14:36] <ncopa> i have this love/hate relation with unity. its great for those 1024x600 screens, but requires more mem than those boxes have...
[14:36] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It won't let me
[14:36] <Hishamoto_Masuki> ANYONE?!
[14:36] <FloodBot1> Hishamoto_Masuki: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:36] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I just need help!
[14:36] <huggy-bear> Hishamoto_Masuki: do you mean the window decoration?
[14:36] <kroson> but, like huggy-bear said, if she doesn't complain about nothing at all, just stay with LTS
[14:36] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Yes Huggy
[14:37] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It will not let me change in Window Manager
[14:37] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It doesn't show the list anymore
[14:37] <huggy-bear> Hishamoto_Masuki: what version?
[14:37] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Latest Xubuntu/
[14:37] <ncopa> yeah, i'll probably let her stay on 12.04 for a few moths at least
[14:37] <ncopa> and see
[14:37] <ncopa> thanks!
[14:37] <JMS32> How to know why my PC freeze?
[14:37] <t4nk803> Now, after April I basically have to upgrade to a newer version? I mean it, won't good to be online if I still use 10.04?
[14:38] <geecat> How can I install eclipse juno manually in ubuntu 12.04?
[14:38] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Hello?:/
[14:38] <shaneo> hey guys would it be a bad idea to jump the gun and install 12.10
[14:38] <JMS32> Hishamoto_Masuki, hello
[14:38] <kroson> geecat: very easily. Just go to eclipse website, download it
[14:38] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Hello
[14:38] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Could you help me
[14:38] <ncopa> Hishamoto_Masuki, hi
[14:38] <kroson> and unzip it to wherever you want to have it
[14:38] <Garr255|Mobile> shaneo, I wouldn't
[14:39] <shaneo> :) thats all I needed to hear thanks Garr255|Mobile
[14:39] <marsfligth> How to avoid that the background output of my croned bash scripts as root aren't saved into the root mail?
[14:39] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It's too crowded...I'll come later...
[14:39] <huggy-bear> Hishamoto_Masuki: some themes don't allow you to change the button order.
[14:39] <wols> marsfligth: I already told you.  > /dev/null
[14:40] <wols> marsfligth: you can do this for stderr too of course but that's a bad idea
[14:40] <geecat> kroson, i did download the file and extracted but when i run it using "./eclipse", it runs but icon is missing it does not shows up in icon panel
[14:41] <Artheist> Nobody had git package issues today ?
[14:41] <wols> geecat: which JRE?
[14:41] <geecat> let me check
[14:41] <geecat> ?
[14:41] <geecat> wols, 1.7
[14:41] <kroson> geecat: you can run it directly from a file manager, no need to use terminal. As for the icon, you will have to select it somewhere
[14:41] <kroson> *from somewhere
[14:42] <ncopa> thanks all!
[14:42] <wols> geecat: there is no such JRE. the important part is: openjdk or oracle
[14:42] <geecat> kroson, icon is present in the eclipse folder along with the executable
[14:42] <geecat> wols, sorry its oracle
[14:42] <aleste> hi, Does anyone know when will be the release of Ubuntu 12.10?
[14:43] <kroson> geecat: what is the problem you are facing? does the eclipse executable have the eclipse icon on it?
[14:43] <kroson> aleste: today xD. Seriously, no one knows xD
[14:44] <basketballstar> how do i install 12.10
[14:44] <ttgr> hey, any idea how to configure SNMP on Cisco EPC3825 ?
[14:44] <geecat> kroson, no,  two are separate files icon has xmp extension
[14:44] <somsip> !isitout
[14:45] <kroson> geecat: i suppose you want to create a launcher, so create one, in "application" write eclipse, in "icon" write eclipse
[14:46] <geecat> kroson, can you suggest me some url which i can refer to for writing the launcher
[14:46] <kroson> geecat: eclipse has an executable on your PATH, so you don't need to use ./eclipse, just eclipse
[14:46] <alecb> `% dhcpd \ zsh: command not found: dhcpd` wat do? :/
[14:46] <Saip> Where do I get to download Ubuntu 12.10?
[14:47] <alecb> sorry, meant dhcpcd (same problem)
[14:47] <kroson> geecat: i'm not on unity right now, can't remember, but i'd say right-clicking the desktop or something
[14:47] <geecat> kroson,  when i type eclipse i get message that eclipse is not install
[14:47] <kroson> similar
[14:48] <geecat> kroson,  thx for the help i will figure out and try to write launcher
[14:48] <conley> To upgrade, can I just download the torrent now and tell the update manager to use that?
[14:48] <ttgr> if i do snmpwalk to <IP_ADDRESS> (my CIsco EPC3825) it returns: "no response received", any ideas ?
[14:48] <conley> I doubt ubuntu's servers are going to need any extra load today. Or does update manager use a torrent automatically?
[14:49] <kroson> geecat: ahh sorry, you installed it manually, so it is not in your path.
[14:50] <thienma> morning guys! anyone get silverlight working on linux?
[14:50] <geecat> kroson, yea i tried to include it in my path but that also is not working eclipse is running file the problem is icon, it is not loading up or what i don't understand
[14:51] <iceroot> ttgr: guess its blocked there, see the manual of your router
[14:51] <DJones> !silverlight | thienma
[14:51] <geecat> kroson, i tried creating  eclipse.desktop but that is not working
[14:51] <kroson> geecat: that is strange, it should run without trouble
[14:51] <masterfaster> thienma: it does not work with netflix though
[14:51] <thienma> wait let me rephrase my sentence, anyone knows a fork project for silverlight?
[14:52] <thienma> oh
[14:52] <conley> thienma: because it does not support the drm in silverlight
[14:52] <thienma> oh
[14:52] <geecat> kroson, yea earlier i never faced any problem , i am facing this in unity
[14:52] <masterfaster> thienma: yep drm sucks
[14:52] <allan_> Ohay
[14:52] <thienma> so running virtualmachine for now?
[14:52] <thienma> yeah
[14:52] <kroson> geecat: i don't know what is happening then. Maybe someone with unity and eclipse here has the same problem and can help you
[14:52] <masterfaster> thienma: yep vm
[14:52] <thienma> thanks guys!
[14:52] <conley> masterfaster: clearly it provides a better experience for consumers
[14:52] <allan_> Unity sucks.
[14:53] <masterfaster> conley: yes but no linux support sucks
[14:53] <conley> masterfaster: that was sarcasm ;) drm is shit
[14:53] <masterfaster> conley: haha
[14:53] <geecat> Any one tried installing eclipse manually in Unity(12.04)?
[14:54] <PeoplesAdvocate> nope
[14:54] <iceroot> geecat: why not using the one from the repos?
[14:54] <RaringOne> !language | conley
[14:54] <kroson> geecat: use the version from the repositories
[14:54] <g0bl1n> setting an Online Account makes it available for what ? What is the IM client by default ? Empathy ?
[14:54] <g0bl1n> do the account need to be inserted in the Empathy accounts area also ?
[14:55] <geecat> kroson, repositories is not updated it still has 3.7 but current one is 4.1
[14:55] <marsfligth> wols, thaks for answering, I didn't see your previous, sorry. My scripts are made to save stdout and stderr on a log into /var/log, so, if I send to /dev/null I think that has no sense. Maybe, I can make a script to invoke as first that it croned and stdout sent to /dev/null, then, the croned script will launch another one that save 2>&1 to /var/log. I just verified once more my scripts and abjectly I inserted the 'tee'
[14:55] <marsfligth> command (just an extract: otale.sh 2>&1 | tee /home/), Do you think that is 'tee' to create that unwanted output?
[14:55] <geecat> iceroot, repo has 3.7 but i want to install 4.1
[14:56] <gradeA> clear
[14:56] <zenx> hi i just deleted /etc/sudoers accidentally, and now i dont know how to restore it
[14:56] <zenx> i dont have a root password
[14:56] <zenx> and cant execute sudo
[14:56] <zenx> ...
[14:57] <ovidiu^^> ok so ubuntu 12.10 is out
[14:57] <compdoc> zenx, even a typo in the sudoers file can prevent you from running sudo
[14:57] <deadmund> zenx: boot a live CD, use root on the CD to replace the /etc/sudoers, edit that file to include your user.
[14:57] <compdoc> zenx,  ^
[14:57] <zenx> thanks, thats a good idea
[14:57] <zenx> damn...
[14:57] <zenx> lol
[14:58] <kroson> geecat: i don't know why it doesn't work, but maybe... unity bug? xD
[14:58] <kroson> what features do you need from eclipse 4.1 that are not in 3.7?
[14:59] <kroson> ubuntu 12.10 is in the repositories now!
[15:00] <geecat> kroson, i don't know the difference its the latest so i am trying it all the new version has something new which helps in development
[15:00] <dr_willis> and this is a suprise? ;)
[15:00] <huggy-bear> geecat: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/eclipse/downloads/drops4/R-4.2.1-201209141800/eclipse-SDK-4.2.1-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[15:02] <lillo> salve a tutti
[15:03] <geecat> kroson, sorry its not eclipse 4.1 its eclipse 4.2
[15:05] <lawe> Hi, would using dd on Linux make a bootable Windows 8 USB?
[15:05] <dr_willis> lawe:  #windows might know
[15:06] <kroson> geecat: its the same procedure, i don't know why eclipse isn't running at all
[15:06] <wols> marsfligth: what is the full line for one of your scripts in your cron?=
[15:06] <knowj> Does anyone here use Bind9?
[15:06] <kroson> geecat: what is the output of eclipse in terminal?
[15:07] <zalgor> is there a way to reduce the high number of continuing requests by the print interface (unity/gnome/kde) to cupsserver? Out of technical reason we are using "servername printerserver" and not "servername localhost". Opening a printer selection box is like a DOS-Attack to our cupsserver.
[15:08] <dusares> knowj, I do
[15:08] <geecat> kroson, no output it runs normal no error , probably some unity bug
[15:08] <kroson> geecat: if it runs normal in terminal, it HAS to run normal from the GUI
[15:09] <kroson> simply put, double-clicking eclipse in the file manager is the same as writing 'eclipse' in terminal
[15:09] <knowj> dusared: I've just set it up on a devbox for internal domains/dns cache but every so often I try a local domain it doesn't find a result
[15:10] <geecat> kroson, yea thats true its strange that icon is not showing up
[15:10] <knowj> dusared: All external domains work fine but the internal ones don't resolve when apache and bind9 both return status running
[15:10] <dusares> knowj: did you set the search domain correctly in the resolv.conf and did you end all names with a '.'
[15:11] <kroson> geecat: try 3.7 from the repositories, see if it works in unity
[15:11] <marsfligth> wols, in 'sudo crontab -e' I've: '00 */2 * * * nice -18 bash /root/uus.sh' anything else
[15:11] <kroson> it should
[15:11] <buzzinh1> RaringOne, why did you ban me?
[15:11] <geecat> kroson, i tried 3.7 it works
[15:11] <dusares> knowj: what do you get as response when you try to resolve the names on the command line ?
[15:12] <gx> hey guys, i'm looking for the best/most efficient way to delete files from a folder older than 180 days. We're talking almost 80GB in one folder, though. I can't even ls the directory
[15:12] <knowj> dusares: I don't think I touched the resolv.conf :S
[15:12] <linuxman1> Hello. How do I delete read-only files from my USB stick Trashes Directory? I have been Googling it but I havent found a solution yet. I am using UBUNTU 10.04.
[15:12] <geecat> but since 4.2 is not in repo i tried installing it manually and it is not working
[15:12] <dr_willis> gx:  find has options like that
[15:12] <dusares> gx take a look at find
[15:12] <L3top> Does anyone know if there will be a backported precise kernel for lucid? To answer the obvious question, we have too much plumbing to do a full upgrade.
[15:12] <gx> thats what ive been trying to do, but it's just sitting/frozen, due to how many files are in the dir
[15:13] <knowj> dusares: I am accessing the local domain from another machine btw
[15:13] <kroson> geecat: so either ignore unity or eclipse 4.2 :)
[15:13] <gx> the directory has almost 80gb of images in it, that have been accumulating over almost 2 years unnecessarily, id like to setup a cron job to remove older than 180 days, every day
[15:13] <dr_willis> gx:  it may take some time.. no magic tricks will remove that
[15:13] <gx> ok
[15:13] <gx> thanks
[15:14] <gx> find . -name '*.*'  -mtime +180
[15:14] <gx> that's what i'm using, just to get a listing of the files. does that syntax look good? (i'm in the working dir)
[15:14] <dr_willis> make some subdirs, have a cron job sort/move them weekly  ;)
[15:14] <geecat> kroson, i will try some more i will look at other applications and see how they are installed and then try eclipse that way
[15:14] <gx> yeah, thats the plan
[15:14] <jsubl2> t
[15:14] <geecat> kroson, thx for you help
[15:15] <wols> marsfligth: add >/dev/null   your redirections inside will take precedence for your logging
[15:15] <linuxman1> Can anyone help me out, please?
[15:15] <dusares> knowj that should be no problem
[15:15] <ghostcart> Is there any way to get wine windows to show on the view with all the windows?
[15:15] <ghostcart> for ubuntu 12.x
[15:16] <alecb> how can I check what drivers my wifi card is using right now? (ie, if they're the built-in drivers, compiled kernel drivers, vendor drivers, etc)
[15:16] <knowj> dusares: I had my local dns config set to 192.168.0.*, <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS> It may have been trying to use one of the Google DNS
[15:16] <ghostcart> I don't know the name of it, it's the view that appears when I press the windows button
[15:16] <deadmund> alecb: You can use sudo lspci -k  and then google the driver names
[15:16] <deadmund> alecb: most likely, they're open source kernel modules.
[15:16] <RaringOne> buzzinh1: join #ubuntu0ops
[15:16] <RaringOne> buzzinh1: join #ubuntu-ops
[15:17] <alecb> deadmund: I might have tried using the vendor drivers but I don't remember if I did a fresh install since then or not
[15:17] <deadmund> alecb: alright.  use sudo lspci -k then
[15:17] <banjolaila> Hey, i'm new to ubuntu. Just installed ubuntu server, and I am having some problems with installing Samba. Could anyone help me?
[15:17] <L3top> alecb: lspci -nnk | grep -iE '(wlan|wireless)'
[15:17] <L3top> alecb: lspci -nnk | grep -iE '(wlan|wireless)' -A3
[15:18] <resetknopje> ;
[15:18] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  give some more details. how are  you installing, and what errors?
[15:18] <z2s8> ovidiu^^: where can download?
[15:18] <mehmet_> heyyy
[15:18] <kroson> Does anyone know if ubuntu blocks telnet client access by default, or is it open?
[15:18] <kroson> so, telnet, as the client
[15:18] <BluesKaj> knowj, if you need to add dns nameservers to resolv.con, that's no longer the correct file , add them to  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head , that file writes to resolv.conf now , and just ignore the warning and add your dns IPs as nameserver
[15:19] <banjolaila> Dr_willis i installed it but every time i try to start I type in the admin password and nothing more happens
[15:19] <kroson> sorry, i wanted to mean server
[15:19] <kroson> telnet server
[15:19] <dr_willis> kroson:  theres no telnet server installed by default if thats what you mena
[15:19] <somsip> kroson: closed here
[15:19] <ubuntu-studio> hello!
[15:19] <kroson> somsip: thanks
[15:19] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  try to start what? the samba service should start at boot time automatically
[15:19] <knowj> BluesKaj: I've got my nameservers set within the networking/interfaces and that seems to do the trick
[15:20] <BkD> disconnect
[15:20] <banjolaila> Dr_willis. Oh ok. But how do i config it?
[15:20] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  via the samba config files in /etc/
[15:20] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[15:20] <BluesKaj> knowj, yes that works if you're using network manager
[15:21] <banjolaila> Dr_willis could you elaborate? I'm a total noob
[15:21] <dr_willis> the samba-doc package has like 3 books on configuring samba ;)
[15:21] <deadmund> I have my computer connected to a receiver (a stereo system).  The sound played by music files on the computer is about 10db quieter than the sound from a component CD player through the same receiver / speakers.  If I turn the volume up on the computer the audio gets crackling (I think it's peaking the signal).  What is going on here?
[15:21] <L3top> deadmund: in terminal type alsamixer. Check master and device output levels
[15:22] <banjolaila> Dr_willis Ok, thanks for the help :)
[15:22] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  its a text file you edit in /etc/ if you know 0% about samba its time to read a few beginner guides on it.
[15:22] <knowj> BluesKaj: Is network manger not ideal on a server then?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> deadmund, using the analog connection ?
[15:22] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  why are you using the server edition anyway?
[15:22] <banjolaila> Dr_willis i'm setting up a server at home for media and stuff like that
[15:23] <deadmund> BluesKaj: yes, analog out on the PC (1/8" stereo "headphone" jack) and typical left / right RCA jack into the receiver (I have an adapter cable)
[15:23] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  the desktop edition can do that...
[15:23] <deadmund> L3top: The levels are set to 0db gain
[15:23] <banjolaila> Dr_willis yeaaah... no one told me that lol
[15:23] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  unless you ppperfer a cli only interface
[15:23] <BluesKaj> knowj, well if network manager is working , stick with it
[15:24] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  server had no gui desktop by default is about the only differance in your case
[15:24] <BluesKaj> deadmund, do tou have a digital input on the stereo amp ?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> do you
[15:24] <banjolaila> Dr_willis Ok, i installed the desktop feature anyway.
[15:25] <deadmund> BluesKaj: the receiver has digital input but the PC does not (but the video card has HDMI out)
[15:25] <deadmund> BluesKaj: What does analog / digital matter here?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> deadmund, most audio cards have a digital/coax output , looks like an orange rca analog jack
[15:26] <lowtax> retarded ringtail
[15:26] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  be sure to check out the ubuntu manual also.
[15:26] <carlo> I'm tryin to download ubuntu 12.10 but the speed of download it's just 205 KB/s ?  I used to download .iso file in the blink of an eye before and now it's going so slooow!
[15:27] <dr_willis> !manual > banjolaila
[15:27] <deadmund> BluesKaj: My (onboard audio) does not have digital out.  What does it matter though?  Will using digital out fix the problem?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> deadmund, better audio and more control with the digital
[15:27] <dr_willis> carlo:  use torrents on release day... is the best way
[15:27] <L3top> deadmund: digital is better... and either on or off. Volume is handled at the receiver.
[15:27] <deadmund> BluesKaj: I see.
[15:27] <deadmund> Ahhh
[15:27] <deadmund> instead of having two volume controls
[15:28] <carlo> Does someone got link to torrent file for Ubuntu 12.10 (i386) ? The one on the sites doesn't work.
[15:28] <Zybe> I'm looking for a application to display different "endpoints/units" on my network. I know mac has something called ting or something like that. Is there anything like that for ubuntu?
[15:28] <dr_willis> carlo:  could be its being updated now.
[15:29] <deadmund> thanks for the help guyz
[15:29] <dr_willis> carlo:  today is release day.. so things are chaotic. ;)
[15:29] <fidel_> Zybe: how would you define endpoint/units? network devices like host/printers?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> yup the audio is passed thru to the digital input on the amp prctically unchanged (less processing) and ther dac on the stereo is probly much higher quality than the pc , deadmund
[15:30] <Zybe> fidel_: yes printers firewalls, computers anything that's connected to the network really
[15:30] <fidel_> Zybe: using 'nmap' would be 1 method
[15:30] <dury> hi there all :-)
[15:31] <fidel_> Zybe: which is available for both: osx and linux. never heard of 'ting' or something similar on osx
[15:31] <ArubaDods> hi
[15:31] <ArubaDods> Hi everyone