[19:29] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: I did the touch command, is there any special unmounting or re-encrypting or exiting of this chroot terminal that I should be aware of, or is just "shut down" from the GUI safe?
[19:29] <B105PH3RE> looking for help with some iptables performance issues.. running ubuntu 12.04 and when I use my server for internet sharing its about 50kb/s and when I'm direct to modem its like 2.3mb/s any ideas?
[19:30] <B105PH3RE> no switch and tried different network cables, and there are no other systems on the network
[19:30] <B105PH3RE> server has dual nic cards
[19:31] <B105PH3RE> initial setup was good but now lately its crappy for some reason...
[19:31] <Jenshae> Got distracted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnkHRtpTztc
[19:31] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: nope nothing special
[19:34] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Okay, I booted regularly, got to GRUB and selected "Ubuntu", the BusyBox v1.22.1 terminal came up again
[19:35] <UbuntuNoob> With "initramfs" leading the prompt
[19:37] <Kyoku> i'm trying to turn off all logs on Ubuntu 16.04 server.  I set sudo systemctl disable rsyslog.service and commented out $IncludeConfig /etc/rsyslog.d/*.conf but I'm still getting cloud-init and wtmp logs, does anyone know how to turn these off?
[19:38] <B105PH3RE> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24488007/
[19:38] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: does it mention any errors?
[19:38] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: No errors whatsoever
[19:39] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: try "ls /dev/mapper" does it show the root one?
[19:39] <UbuntuNoob> it responds "control        sda5_crypt     ubuntu--vg-swap_1     ubuntu--vg-root"
[19:40] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: (sorry if spam, forgot to tag you)
[19:41] <skinux> Is this config file causing the error? https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/5cf956ac2cb031d51bf597ccc3d7c657
[19:44] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: try typing "exit"
[19:44] <funkster> anyone recommend a intel CPU that the GPU works with ubuntu 16/17? (I was having trouble with the newest intel chips)
[19:46] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: "/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root contains a file system with errors, check forced. Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found." followed by "/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. (i.e. without -a or -p options)"
[19:47] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: followed by "fsck exited with status code 4 The root filesystem on /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root requires a manual fsck"
[19:48] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: aha, try booting in recovery mode (go to advanced in grub then recovery and choose to run fsck)
[19:49] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Is there a particular version I should select, or just the newest one with (recovery mode)?
[19:50] <davidj> @funkster depending on budget, I found the gtx 1080 works flawlessly now. I hear good things 'bout the 1070.
[19:50] <davidj> If I were a patient man, I'd await amd's next release.
[19:51] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: yup
[19:51] <davidj> Oh! You mean intel specifically. Never ran into any issues with intel gpus and linux.
[19:51] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: newest one
[19:51] <Jenshae> AMD is worth going for. What with Vulkan coming along and the superior memory bus width.
[19:52] <Jenshae> Nvidia does weird things like put two chips on the same channels
[19:52] <Jenshae> Nvida tries to compensate by running the transfer speeds higher but they still fall behind on AMD
[19:52] <Jenshae> So you do graphics design or you play games with many different textures then AMD will come out better in the future.
[19:52] <tomreyn_newpc> funkster, which ubuntu version and intel gpu do you have there?
[19:53] <tomreyn_newpc> (and what's not working)
[19:53] <funkster> tomreyn_newpc: I am going to purchase, I previously had issues witn i3 kabylake. Can you recommend one that is working?
[19:54] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Okay, I did that and it responds with the same message as when I tried "exit" in the BusyBox prompt..Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found, run fsck manually, etc. "Failure: File system check of the root filesystem failed"
[19:54] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: And now I'm at the BusyBox/initramfs terminal
[19:54] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: aha, try dropping to root shell
[19:54] <Kyoku> how can i turn off wtmp logs?
[19:54] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: I don't know what that means...sorry haha
[19:55] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: ah try rebooting into recovery mode, then go to the drop to root shell
[19:55] <tomreyn_newpc> funkster, i can only agree to what was previously said, that intel gpu's usually work fine. for the latest one you may need microcode updates and maybe updated drivers (from a ppa) on 16.04 though.
[19:55] <tomreyn_newpc> funkster, 520 is the latest one i used and it worked out of the box.
[19:55] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: then type "fsck -f /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root"
[19:56] <funkster> tomreyn_newpc: should I give ubuntu 17 a try on newest intel chip/gpu?
[19:56] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: I'm confused, when I boot into recovery mode I got here...there wasn't any option to "drop to root shell"
[19:56] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Or any options actually, it just started sliding a bunch of logs up the screen as it worked on things
[19:57] <tomreyn_newpc> funkster, i'd just keep lts (so 16.04) and *maybe* use a ppa  (if really needed)
[19:57] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: oh
[19:57] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: boot the live usb again
[19:57] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: then type "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 sda5_crypt"
[19:57] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: then type "sudo fsck -f /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root"
[20:01] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: ""Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found. fix<y>?" I am going to assume we want that fixed and hit "y", haha.
[20:02] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: yeah, spam the y key :D
[20:02] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Now "Deleted inode 11316280 has zero dtime. Fix<y>?"
[20:02] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Okay, to all of these?
[20:02] <EriC^^> yup
[20:03] <tomreyn_newpc> funkster, https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers if you're looking for newer drivers. but before you do this be sure to install intel-microcode and reboot and retest.
[20:04] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Okay, I spammed away and it says FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED with some timestamps and things.  It worked!
[20:07] <EriC^^> !irclogs | Sparrow_
[20:08] <Sparrow_> thanks
[20:08] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: great!
[20:08] <EriC^^> np
[20:09] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Thank you SO much. You are my favorite human being.
[20:09] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: no problem :D
[20:53] <Swift_> Hey folks, I've been having some trouble getting macchanger to work properly. Is it acceptable to ask for help with something like that here, or should I try some other channel?
[21:01] <tomreyn_newpc> Swift_, i don't think that's an issue, it's part of ubuntu
[21:02] <tomreyn_newpc> Swift_, are you using it with Network Manager?
[21:02] <Swift_> I was. I figured that might be causing problems, so I installed wicd instead, which just gave me a different problem
[21:03] <tomreyn_newpc> with Network Manager you can just have NM set the desired MAC foor you
[21:03] <Swift_> Hmm, problem is I want to be able to use a script that randomises the mac address
[21:03] <Swift_> I.e. on startup or something
[21:04] <tomreyn_newpc> i never tired but i bet someone else has
[21:04] <tomreyn_newpc> if you can't find how to do it online, i bet you'llneed to create a script and place it in some *.d directory
[21:05] <tomreyn_newpc> such as a NM post startup hook
[21:09] <tomreyn_newpc> there is a wifi.mac-address-randomization option NetworkManager.conf
[21:12] <tomreyn_newpc> Swift_, see the cloned-mac-address option in nm-settings(5)
[21:16] <tomreyn_newpc> Swift_, this discusses your options in detail: https://blogs.gnome.org/thaller/2016/08/26/mac-address-spoofing-in-networkmanager-1-4-0/
[21:18] <tomreyn_newpc> oh that's just for NM 1.4, but ubuntu 16.04 is on 1.2 :-/
[21:19] <latino31> is apache2 not working with ubuntu 17.04 now?
[21:19] <Ben64> it is
[21:21] <latino31> ben64 its not working for me...https://askubuntu.com/questions/908470/apache2-not-starting-on-ubuntu-server-17-04
[21:35] <west> anyone have any idea where one might restrict access to  phpmyadmin by ip, other than  /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[21:37] <tomreyn_newpc> latino31, two issues: one is quite clearly discussed on the "systemctl status apache2.service" output you pasted. the other is that you cannot have both nginx and apache listenon the same port (80)
[21:38] <skinux> Did I miss an answer? Is this config file causing the error? https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/5cf956ac2cb031d51bf597ccc3d7c657
[21:38] <bonsaitree> How do i convert from a binary file located in /bin to a source-code written in whatever language that binary was the product of?
[21:38] <tomreyn_newpc> west, why would you prefer not to do it there?
[21:39] <west> no, it's just that i'm pretty sure i did it in more than one place
[21:39] <tomreyn_newpc> skinux, what is "the error"?
[21:39] <skinux> The error is on the Gist, had you bothered to look at it.
[21:39] <west> now i need to change that IP and i can't figure out where else i have specified it
[21:40] <tomreyn_newpc> bonsaitree, you don't. you do it the other way around: have source code, produce binary.
[21:41] <tomreyn_newpc> west: sudo grep -rF '<IP_ADDRESS>' /etc/apache2
[21:41] <tomreyn_newpc> west, replace <IP_ADDRESS> by the IPv4 address you'r elooking for
[21:41] <bonsaitree> tomreyn_newpc, I know, but i wanted to know if there's a way. I've read about de-compilers, but they won't give the *same* code, but instead code which does the same thing
[21:42] <west> thanks, that did it
[21:42] <tomreyn_newpc> bonsaitree, right, disassemblers can (sometimes) support you in generating source code from binaries.
[21:44] <tomreyn_newpc> bonsaitree, this is what's so great about open source software - you get to know what the source code is. reproducible builds allow you to be sure that a given pre-built software was actually built from a specific piece of source code.
[21:45] <west> should changes to /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/*.conf take effect merely by restarting apache?
[21:46] <west> or must i a2dis/a2ensite
[21:47] <bonsaitree> tomreyn_newpc, Yup :)
[21:48] <tomreyn_newpc> a2ensite + a2dissite create / remove a symbolic link in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ pointing to the actual file /etc/apache2/sites-available/ (which has to exist).
[21:48] <west> oh right
[21:48] <bonsaitree> It turned out that it's screen tearing what's happening on 17.04. Anyone noticed it and possible fixes? Thanks in advance.
[21:48] <bonsaitree> I am on Xubuntu btw.
[21:48] <tomreyn_newpc> west, ^ i.e. you should never place files in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ - just symlinks
[21:48] <west> should apache be able to recognize allow / deny directives for ipv6 ip?
[21:49] <tomreyn_newpc> west, and reloading / restarting apache is needed.
[21:49] <tomreyn_newpc> and yes it should understand ip limits on ipv6 addresses
[21:50] <skinux> tomreyn_newpc: Did you check out the gist?
[21:51] <west> it doesn't seem to be able to allow them
[22:00] <thatlizdude> hi, so i need to put the ISO to my USB drive, can anyone help me with that?
[22:00] <thatlizdude> i am on Mac, and I need to boot Linux on Windows
[22:06] <YankDownUnder> thatlizdude: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-macos
[22:06] <flappynerd> is there something possibly like AutoHotKey for linux?
[22:06] <alruin> hello i wont tho have what a goom in  xmms2   how to?
[22:06] <thatlizdude> yeah that's what i'm doing now YankDownUnder thanks
[22:07] <thatlizdude> i just heard that UNetBootin isn't recommended
[22:08] <thatlizdude> i don't see the usb drive in the boot order tho
[22:08] <thatlizdude> i am trying to run SystemRescueCd Linux
[22:08] <thatlizdude> not Ubuntu
[22:09] <alruin> go to bios andt look there witch start first
[22:09] <thatlizdude> Windows Boot Manager is first
[22:10] <thatlizdude> then HDD: WDC something
[22:10] <thatlizdude> there's 3 USB's listed
[22:10] <thatlizdude> USB FDD, USB HDD, and USB CDROM
[22:10] <thatlizdude> so which one is it?
[22:11] <YankDownUnder> thatlizdude: USB HDD - try that.
[22:11] <thatlizdude> ok
[22:11] <alruin> yes
[22:11] <alruin> andt save it
[22:12] <alruin> i wont tho have what a goom in  xmms2   how to?
[22:12] <thatlizdude> i moved it uprestarted
[22:12] <thatlizdude> aaand
[22:12] <thatlizdude> the screen went blank
[22:12] <thatlizdude> and wtf now it's on Windows again
[22:13] <alruin> open windo andt put pc out off youre hous
[22:13] <thatlizdude> any other suggestions?
[22:14] <thatlizdude> i need to reset the password
[22:14] <alruin> in ubuntu
[22:15] <thatlizdude> in SystemRescueCd
[22:15] <thatlizdude> i'm not booting ubuntu
[22:15] <alruin> sudo passwd
[22:15] <thatlizdude> it's another linux
[22:15] <thatlizdude> and I CAN'T BOOT INTO IT
[22:15] <alruin> google it
[22:15] <thatlizdude> i can't boot into it
[22:15] <thatlizdude> i did
[22:15] <thatlizdude> i can't boot it
[22:15] <alruin> tha tno good
[22:16] <thatlizdude> do i need to format it to FAT?
[22:16] <thatlizdude> or exFAT
[22:16] <alruin> i wont my old what a goom backin my xmms2
[22:17] <tomreyn_newpc> !ot | thatlizdude
[22:17] <thatlizdude> okay imma use ubuntu
[22:18] <thatlizdude> so unetbootin
[22:19] <serteng> hello I need quick help for ubuntu
[22:19] <tomreyn_newpc> hi serteng
[22:19] <tomreyn_newpc> !ask | serteng
[22:19] <serteng> thx
[22:19] <Jenshae> blkadder and Jordan_U Thank you for the help. Going to grab some sleep. o7
[22:20] <serteng> I am working on a project and I need to use my pc usb port as spacebar on the keyboard.
[22:21] <serteng> like it s gonna be single button, when hit that it s going to function as space bar.
[22:22] <tomreyn_newpc> serteng, you want to develop a "USB HID input device". that's hardware, maybe ask in ##hardware.
[22:22] <serteng> thx.
[22:22] <tgm4883> or you could just get a premade one
[22:22] <thatlizdude> well UNetBootin is stuck at 43 files of 452
[22:22] <thatlizdude> what can i do?
[22:22] <tgm4883> http://www.usbbutton.com/
[22:23] <jeremy31> serteng: possibly contact the manufacturer?
[22:24] <serteng> I guess I will. I thought it s a simple usb output.
[22:24] <thatlizdude> unetbootin is also not respoding...
[22:24] <serteng> I ll ask to hardware section . thx
[22:25] <thatlizdude> is there another way than unetbootin?
[22:25] <thatlizdude> because it's STUCK
[22:25] <Ben64> how long has it been stuck
[22:25] <thatlizdude> 2mins
[22:26] <Ben64> give it more time
[22:26] <tomreyn_newpc> thatlizdude, what are you trying to do, what is the environment you are operating in (hardware, software, virtualization, media devices), what is your ubuntu support issue?
[22:27] <thatlizdude> tomreyn_newpc: unetbootin ubuntu 16.04.2 on macOS 10.12.4
[22:27] <thatlizdude> stuck at 43
[22:27] <thatlizdude> extracting the files
[22:28] <thatlizdude> this isn't gonna get unstuck
[22:28] <thatlizdude> im cancelling it
[22:29] <thatlizdude> well i tried again and it worked
[22:29] <ryan___> JOIN /#ansible
[22:29] <thatlizdude> now stuck on 185
[22:29] <thatlizdude> holy sh!t are you kidding me
[22:30] <thatlizdude> never using unetbootin again
[22:31] <tomreyn_newpc> thatlizdude, "unetbootin" is not a verb i am aware of. are you trying to create some form of bootable media using the "unetbootin" software? what type of media? is Apple OS X the host OS, hosting a virtual machine which runs ubuntu 16.04? and you ar erunning the unetbootin software in this VM?
[22:32] <thatlizdude> tomreyn_newpc: "UNetBootin" is on Ubuntu's website
[22:32] <thatlizdude> i don't know if you ever made a bootable USB
[22:32] <thatlizdude> but that's what it tells me to use
[22:33] <tomreyn_newpc> i did. and am aware of the software. i'm just asking these questions to better nuderstand what you are trying to do / achieve and how, and how it's not working as expected.
[22:33] <tomreyn_newpc> thatlizdude, ^
[22:34] <thatlizdude> i just switched to the terminal method
[22:34] <thatlizdude> here if you wanna see tomreyn_newpc : https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Create_a_Live_USB_stick_using_Mac_OS_x
[22:36] <YankDownUnder> Rather strange that unetbootin can be used by many folks (me included) - and we have no issues with it...
[22:37] <thatlizdude> on Mac?
[22:37] <thatlizdude> because by looking at the interface, it seems REALLY outdated
[22:37] <YankDownUnder> Yes. Many times. Multiplied.
[22:38] <thatlizdude> well it just didn't do it
[22:38] <dax> It works for many people. It doesn't work for many people.
[22:38] <thatlizdude> the terminal method works fine
[22:38] <thatlizdude> i really think it would be much easier for Ubuntu to put that method on their site
[22:38] <YankDownUnder> If it works, then great. Lovely. Donuts for everyone!
[22:38] <thatlizdude> just a thought
[22:39] <thatlizdude> now how can i reset Windows 8 password from Ubuntu? :D
[22:39] <YankDownUnder> thatlizdude: Communicate that back to the community. That's what a community is about, right? If you have a "trick" or a "tip" or a "hint" that appears to work, donate that information to the community.
[22:39] <thatlizdude> didn't i just do that?
[22:39] <thatlizdude> :P
[22:40] <tomreyn_newpc> not really, things typed to this channel dont end up on support documents automatically
[22:40] <Ben64> thatlizdude: probably by googling "how to reset windows 8 password from linux"
[22:40] <thatlizdude> aight
[22:40] <thatlizdude> thanks guys
[22:42] <thatlizdude> i mean i hope it loads since i clicked "try Ubuntu" but the screen went black...
[22:42] <YankDownUnder> thatlizdude: The utility that comes on Ubuntu LiveUSB/CD/DVD is called "chntpw"
[22:42] <thatlizdude> that's what i googled :P
[22:43] <tomreyn_newpc> run a media test
[22:43] <thatlizdude> how?
[22:43] <tomreyn_newpc> its an option on the boot screen
[22:44] <thatlizdude> "Check disc for defects"?
[22:45] <thatlizdude> is that what u meant tomreyn_newpc
[22:46] <tomreyn_newpc> right
[22:46] <tomreyn_newpc> thatlizdude, ^
[22:46] <thatlizdude> ok
[22:46] <thatlizdude> does that basically check the ISO file?
[22:47] <thatlizdude> no errors found
[22:48] <thatlizdude> ok how does it suddenly WORK now?
[22:48] <thatlizdude> wait, it doesn't
[22:48] <thatlizdude> OH IT DOES :D
[23:21] <thatlizdude> using Ubuntu seemed like a good idea to reset password - Windows now seems corrupted
[23:22] <thatlizdude> i wouldn't give a sh*t if it wouldn't be my computer, but i really need to fix it right now
[23:22] <thatlizdude> i mean if it WOULD be my computer
[23:22] <thatlizdude> lol
[23:28] <ricky____`> hello, all. i'm using ubuntu MATE 16.04, and caja has stopped opening files when i double-click or right-click->open with... any pointers?
[23:34] <Kuche> so im on 16.04 and my f3 button broke which i used to increase screen brightness, how can i now do it from the command line?
[23:35] <ricky____`> Kuche: did you try xbacklight?
[23:35] <catbeard> so i'm using synapse (apt-get install synapse) on ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[23:35] <catbeard> how do i get this to bind to a custom key like WinKey+R
[23:36] <Kuche> i have tried nothing so far, ricky____`, but my f3 button was continually having problems and now it just broke. a year ago, someone had given me a nice command which i used to increase brightness without installing anything, i forgot what it was
[23:36] <catbeard> and start on boot with (synapse -s)
[23:36] <Kuche> ricky____`: i dont have xbacklight installed
[23:36] <ricky____`> Kuche: i didn't have it installed either. :)
[23:36] <ricky____`> but it does work. just tried it.
[23:36] <trixietrax> Hello, i'm new to linux.
[23:37] <ricky____`> Kuche: `sudo apt install xbacklight`, then `xbacklight -set 50`
[23:37] <ricky____`> and just replace 50 with a number (i'm guessing) between 0 and 100
[23:37] <thatlizdude> does it matter if i did umount /mnt/windows before booting into Windows again?
[23:37] <catbeard> could i just put (screen -dmS synapse_daemon synapse -s) in /etc/rc.sysinit or something
[23:38] <catbeard> or is there a systemd equivalent
[23:39] <ricky____`> catbeard: sorry, i quit custom keyboard layouts (besides caps->ctrl)
[23:39] <joeyy> any one using zfs yet ?
[23:40] <ricky____`> thatlizdude: if you mean a true reboot (not running Windows in a VM in Linux), that should not be a problem.
[23:40] <thatlizdude> ok
[23:41] <thatlizdude> well i used chntpw and now it's scanning and repairing C drive :(
[23:41] <thatlizdude> hopefully it works
[23:41] <thatlizdude> since i am doing this for someone xD
[23:42] <zukizukito> please help me fix plymouth
[23:42] <Kuche> go fix it yourself, you fucking child molester
[23:42] <zukizukito> tried all what i could find in forums , no luck
[23:43] <YankDownUnder> What *is* the problem with Plymouth?
[23:43] <zukizukito> broken
[23:44] <zukizukito> black screen with all the things thats loading up being written
[23:44] <YankDownUnder> zukizukito: So it's a "non graphical" boot screen.
[23:44] <zukizukito> yea
[23:45] <YankDownUnder> zukizukito: What happened between the time that it worked properly and now? What was changed/reconfigured/added?
[23:45] <thatlizdude> the Windows isn't booting i don't know what to do :'(
[23:45] <zukizukito> i have dual boot , kali and ubuntu
[23:45] <zukizukito> i did an apt-get upgrade in kali
[23:46] <YankDownUnder> zukizukito: So the "upgrade" in kali appears to have broken the "Plymouth" for when you boot Ubuntu...is this correct?
[23:47] <zukizukito> maybe
[23:47] <ricky____`> any takers for caja not opening files? it was working and suddenly stopped. using xdg-open for everything is getting tiring. :(
[23:48] <ricky____`> right-click->open in terminal also doesn't work.
[23:48] <YankDownUnder> zukizukito: For Ubuntu, if you wish to make a change to "Plymouth", it would be best to open a terminal and type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure plymouth ==> follow the prompts
[23:48] <ricky____`> and since running caja from the command line doesn't let you see the output (as well as the man page says nothing about it), i'm sort of stuck.
[23:49] <thatlizdude> guys help me i can't boot into Windows after modifying it with Ubuntu chntpw
[23:49] <thatlizdude> please
[23:49] <thatlizdude> i was supposed to remove the password from it, not break it
[23:49] <tomreyn_newpc> as you may have noticed, this is an _ubuntu_ support channel
[23:49] <thatlizdude> that's great
[23:49] <zukizukito> its says plymouth is broken
[23:50] <YankDownUnder> zukizukito: sudo apt-get reinstall plymouth
[23:50] <blackflow> zukizukito: the two operating systems are sharing the same /boot ?
[23:50] <thatlizdude> well the PC is dead
[23:50] <thatlizdude> i'm done with this
[23:51] <ricky____`> tomreyn_newpc: can you offer me some support then? :)
[23:51] <YankDownUnder> thatlizdude: Did you actually READ the documentation for chntpw, or did you just "run directly into the situation"?
[23:51] <tomreyn_newpc> ricky____`, i don't even know what caja is. probably some graphical file manager?
[23:51] <thatlizdude> YankDownUnder: i ran into it...
[23:51] <ricky____`> right. a rebadged nautilus.
[23:51] <zukizukito> for kali , i did the guided installation ,
[23:51] <thatlizdude> but what can i do?
[23:52] <thatlizdude> do i have to reinstall windows?
[23:52] <thatlizdude> i'm done :;(
[23:52] <tomreyn_newpc> ricky____`, what happened / changed between when it worked and when it broke?
[23:52] <YankDownUnder> thatlizdude: You cannot try to deflect the blame for your actions on anyone else - Ubuntu or otherwise. People try to help. It's up to YOU to do so with regard, intelligence, patience and THOUGHT.
[23:53] <arooni> i'm seeing duplicate menubars
[23:53] <ricky____`> tomreyn_newpc: pretty much just using the computer. it's not like i rebooted and it was broken. just stopped working.
[23:53] <thatlizdude> YankDownUnder: i'm not blaming anyone else
[23:53] <thatlizdude> i just don't know what to do
[23:53] <ricky____`> using tmux/vim/gimp/chrome/caja, roughly.
[23:53] <arooni> in ubuntu 16.04; i.e. in terminal i see the close/minimize/maximize and then again on system emnubar;  how do i see only one
[23:53] <ricky____`> i can still browse the files, but they no longer open.
[23:53] <YankDownUnder> thatlizdude: GOOGLE. THINK. Write a bloody list of what you did, and what you THINK you should do. Get organised. Be patient.
[23:54] <thatlizdude> aight
[23:54] <tomreyn_newpc> ricky____`, so one possibility might be that an upgrade was installed which broke this functionality. but this should only happen if you were using caja or its dependencies form a PPA.
[23:55] <blackflow> zukizukito: the two operating systems are sharing the same /boot ?
[23:55] <tomreyn_newpc> ricky____`, is that so?
[23:55] <ricky____`> tomreyn_newpc: i have auto-update off. i do it manually.
[23:55] <ricky____`> and i haven't updated in the last ~week, so doubtful.
[23:57] <tomreyn_newpc> ricky____`, okay, then another hypothesis is that there is a stuck broken caja or xdg-open process which breaks this. run "ps auxw | grep -E '(caja|xdg-open)'" - does it list anything, and anything you would not expect (if you can tell, if you cannot tell just put the output on a pastebin)
[23:58] <dw1> I dont have a 'Remote Desktop' option in System > Prefereces in 17.04 - how do I enable it?
[23:59] <ricky____`> tomreyn_newpc: good idea, just a moment. i'll take them all down to be sure.
[23:59] <devz0r> OK so I have this USB dongle thing. It works perfectly in Ubuntu 16.10. In 16.04 and 17.04, it stops working after like 10-20 minutes. It's a Linksys AE1000 v1 802.11n [Ralink RT3572]
[23:59] <tomreyn_newpc> ricky____`, or you could reboot, might also solve it


[09:19] <luna__> wooho new daily images for the first time in some days \o/
[09:26]  * luna__ downloads to test in my Virtualbox test VM
 is there any report for the problems with the keyboard layout selector in g-i-s in 22.10?
[13:09] <luna__> got an answer from jbicha


[00:00] <diosdeluniverso> One question, how can I make this Os Update & Recovery panel appear because I don't have it in the configuration options in Pop Os 22, does anyone know of a command using Alt + F2? An example image https://support.system76.com/_nuxt/image/79d11e.webp
[00:18] <rfm> diosdeluniverso, that seems to be a GNOME panel.  Xubuntu doesn't use GNOME. Whisker menus>Settings>Software and Updates is the closest equivalent I know of for Xubuntu.
[00:21] <diosdeluniverso> I ask for Pop Os, not for Xubuntu, if there is a way to start that panel from a console command with Alt + F2?
[00:23] <rfm> diosdeluniverso, if you
[00:23] <rfm> diosdeluniverso, if you're asking about Pop OS, ask somewhere else than #xubuntu....
[00:29] <rfm> !pm | diosdeluniverso


[01:49] <jrib> foug: hello
[01:49] <foug> jrib: yo
[01:49] <foug> sorry, real new to this
[01:49] <jrib> foug: you are using Ubuntu?  (not kubuntu, xubuntu)
[01:49] <foug> yes
[01:50] <jrib> join me on this page: 4-38-64-246-st.albyny.adelphia.net]  has quit [Read error: 54  (Connection reset
[01:50] <jrib> erm
[01:50] <jrib> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[01:50] <foug> k i'm there, i've added a few repositories but i guess vlc wasn't in any of them
[01:51] <jrib> foug: ok, pastebin your current sources.list please
[01:51] <jrib> !pastebin
[01:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:52] <foug> syntax?
[01:53] <foug> k it's pasted
[01:53] <jrib> k, now give us the url
[01:53] <foug> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15294/
[01:54] <jrib> foug: that looks broken
[01:54] <foug> o
[01:55] <jrib> I'm going to give you a link for you to create a new one:
[01:55] <jrib> !easysource | foug
[01:55] <ubotu> foug: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:56] <foug> k want em to paste them in here
[01:57] <jrib> foug: right, replace what you currently have witht he new one you get on the website
[01:57] <foug> they are the same, did you say they looked broken since they didn't have main reisted and what not at the end?
[01:58] <jrib> foug: yes
[01:58] <jrib> and you only had 4 urls, none of them official repos
[01:58] <foug> sorry, didn't know oyu needed that
[01:58] <jrib> foug: yeah, the whole file
[01:58] <foug> well, they have main main-all and different things at the end of them, i think they are correct
[01:59] <jrib> foug: k, but show me :)
[01:59] <foug> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted
[01:59] <foug> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main restricted
[01:59] <foug> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted
[01:59] <foug> is what i got from your site, it's only 3
[01:59] <foug> and they don't look like the ones in synaptic
[02:00] <jrib> foug: make sure you check "Ubuntu community supported packages" too
[02:00] <foug> i think it is, in synaptic right?
[02:01] <jrib> foug: I mean on the web page
[02:01] <jrib> source-o-matic
[02:01] <foug> o yea it was, sorry
[02:01] <foug> yea
[02:02] <jrib> ok, so then you press "Create sources.list"
[02:02] <foug> aye, i did
[02:02] <foug> it brings up the text file where i pasted the 3 ones from
[02:02] <jrib> foug: but there are more than those right?
[02:02] <foug> the community suppported packages are the same as my ubuntu ones
[02:02] <foug> nope
[02:02] <foug> there's deb-src of the same thing
[02:02] <jrib> ok, hold on let me just pastebin a sources.list
[02:03] <jrib> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15296/
[02:03] <jrib> run this command: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:03] <foug> that's what mine looks like, exactly
[02:03] <jrib> ok
[02:03] <foug> k it's open
[02:03] <jrib> run this command: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:04] <foug> done
[02:04] <jrib> then delete everything you see and replace it with the one I pasted
[02:04] <jrib> if you have some of those third party repos like for Listen, you can keep those at the bottom
[02:04] <foug> delete everything?
[02:05] <foug> do i paste all 23 lines from your link?
[02:06] <jrib> foug: yes
[02:07] <foug> k done, save and exit?
[02:07] <jrib> yes
[02:07] <foug> done
[02:07] <jrib> then run:  sudo apt-get update
[02:07] <foug> done
[02:07] <jrib> now try to install vlc:  sudo aptitude install vlc
[02:07] <foug> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:07] <foug> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:07] <foug> were the last two lines, but there was a bunch more
[02:08] <jrib> foug: close synaptic if you have it open
[02:08] <foug> nice it worked!
[02:08] <foug> would oyu be interested in helping me with a few other problems? ;x
[02:09] <jrib> foug: if I know how
[02:10] <foug> well, first, my taskbar is always expanded even though I have it checked.  I changed something with grep-editor i think to get rid of window effects when I minimize them and such but then it gave me a grid
[02:10] <jrib> yeah, you can't get rid of the minimization animation without getting that grid
[02:10] <jrib> I don't know about the taskbar thing.  Give #ubuntu a try on these
[02:10] <foug> do tell :) let me change my thing in grep real quick
[02:11] <foug> i have been, so such luck yet
[02:11] <jrib> gconf-editor you mean
[02:11] <foug> word
[02:11] <foug> k, changed it back to normal
[02:13] <jrib> NewbieBaba: hi
[02:13] <NewbieBaba> jrib : slm
[02:13] <jrib> NewbieBaba: is Ubuntu on a different computer than the one you are on now?
[02:14] <NewbieBaba> no :/
[02:14] <NewbieBaba> on the same computer that im on
[02:14] <NewbieBaba> im on WinXp atm
[02:14] <emoney> Hi.  I'm having some difficultly getting WPA encryption working with Ubuntu.  Could someone please help me out to point me in the right direction?
[02:14] <foug> jrib: do you know how to take awya the minimize effects?
[02:14] <jrib> foug: only with that reduced_resources thing
[02:14] <foug> darn
[02:14] <jrib> !wireless > emoney    (emoney, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:14] <jrib> emoney: try #ubuntu
[02:15] <emoney> thanks
[02:15] <jrib> NewbieBaba: ok, have you checked whether the partition that your /home in Ubuntu is on has free space?
[02:15] <NewbieBaba> the story is ; i installed ubuntu on that computer n then i had that "your session...." error. n then i removed partitation of Ubuntu n resize them n then i tried to re-install it with Live Cd n then it gave me same error :S
[02:15] <jrib> NewbieBaba: ok, are you comfortable using the command line?
[02:16] <NewbieBaba> yea
[02:16] <NewbieBaba> i can run Fail-Safe terminal
[02:16] <jrib> NewbieBaba: well the first thing to do is to check your disk space.  Run 'df -h' and see how much free space is left
[02:16] <NewbieBaba> it says %74 in use
[02:17] <jrib> NewbieBaba: does the same thing happen if you create a new user?
[02:17] <NewbieBaba> "/" %74 in use
[02:17] <NewbieBaba> "tmp"
[02:17] <NewbieBaba> %3
[02:17] <NewbieBaba> u know it logs as "ubuntu" when u try to install it
[02:17] <NewbieBaba> i created new user
[02:17] <NewbieBaba> with sudo useradd username
[02:17] <jrib> NewbieBaba: oh, this happens on the actual live cd?  not on an installed ubuntu?
[02:18] <NewbieBaba> no
[02:18] <jrib> no what?
[02:18] <NewbieBaba> im saying im tryin to re-install it
[02:18] <NewbieBaba> its like
[02:18] <foug> jrib: how would i go about installing gaim 1.4.0? is there an easy command i can put in for it?
[02:18] <NewbieBaba> i'll just install it now
[02:18] <NewbieBaba> but im having that problem
[02:18] <NewbieBaba> Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of disk space. Try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem.
[02:18] <NewbieBaba> This is the content of ~/.xsessions file:
[02:18] <jrib> foug: not really, you just get what is in the repositories
[02:19] <jrib> NewbieBaba: why are you reinstalling?
[02:19] <NewbieBaba> i already removed it
[02:19] <NewbieBaba> :/
[02:19] <NewbieBaba> bc i thought i needed more space
[02:19] <NewbieBaba> so i removed the parts of Linux system
[02:20] <NewbieBaba> n then i made new parts in HDD
[02:20] <NewbieBaba> now tryin to install it n im gettin that error
[02:20] <jrib> NewbieBaba: well if the install cd is giving you strange errors like that, I would just try the alternate cd.  You won't need to get into X that way
[02:20] <jrib> !alternate
[02:20] <NewbieBaba> tried 5 times already :(
[02:20] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[02:20] <jrib> NewbieBaba: you tried the alternate cd?  What went wrong then?
[02:21] <NewbieBaba> i dont know really
[02:21] <NewbieBaba> i told you the story :/
[02:21] <NewbieBaba> i had that error n i removed ubuntu
[02:21] <NewbieBaba> i resized the parts of hdd
[02:21] <NewbieBaba> n tried to re-install
[02:21] <NewbieBaba> n same thing happens
[02:22] <jrib> NewbieBaba: right, now I am suggesting that you try to install using the alternate cd, not the Desktop cd
[02:22] <NewbieBaba> i burnt 5 CD of the iso file of ubuntu610
[02:22] <NewbieBaba> o
[02:22] <NewbieBaba> how can i get alternate cd :/
[02:22] <NewbieBaba> or how can i make it
[02:22] <jrib> NewbieBaba: releases.ubuntu.com will have .iso's
[02:23] <NewbieBaba> which section ?
[02:23] <NewbieBaba> i saw a tree of links
[02:23] <voidmage> I had to use the alternate cd too because the desktop cd wouldn't install grub right on my setup
[02:23] <voidmage> I have three PATA drives with windows on them
[02:23] <voidmage> and then two new SATA drives i put ubuntu on
[02:23] <jrib> NewbieBaba: click on the version of ubuntu you want
[02:24] <NewbieBaba> thanks jrib
[02:24] <NewbieBaba> another 700 mb
[02:24] <NewbieBaba> :)
[02:24] <NewbieBaba> ahh
[02:24] <NewbieBaba> hope it'll fix my problem
[02:25] <NewbieBaba> jrib, as u see im newbie on linux, which Linux should i use ? which one is better ?
[02:26] <jrib> NewbieBaba: I think Ubuntu is really great of course
[02:26] <NewbieBaba> and what should i install on them like(automatix, etc.)
[02:26] <NewbieBaba> i like Automatix2
[02:26] <NewbieBaba> n theres also EasyUbuntu
[02:26] <NewbieBaba> which one u preffer?
[02:26] <jrib> NewbieBaba: I'd recommend staying away from automatix and similar things.  The best thing to do it to take a couple of minutes to read how to install thinks yourself.  You shouldn't need to install too many things outside of the repositories anyway
[02:27] <jrib> s/thinks/things
[02:27] <NewbieBaba> true
[02:27] <NewbieBaba> can i play Windows games on Linux ?
[02:28] <NewbieBaba> like WOW
[02:28] <jrib> NewbieBaba: that one I believe you can.  I don't know anything about it though.  You'll want to look into wine and cedega
[02:28] <NewbieBaba> and i also had GAIM problem.. i logged in everything was good n GAIM closed suddenly..
[02:28] <jrib> NewbieBaba: msn?
[02:29] <NewbieBaba> yea
[02:29] <NewbieBaba> i tried to use AMSN
[02:29] <NewbieBaba> it wanted to make me install TSL or something like that
[02:29] <NewbieBaba> even if i chose everything on the list
[02:29] <jrib> yeah gaim and msn don't work that well in my experience
[02:29] <NewbieBaba> it doesnt connect
[02:29] <NewbieBaba> how can i run MSN on linux then ? :/
[02:29] <NewbieBaba> sorry if i am bothering u baba :(
[02:30] <jrib> NewbieBaba: try #ubuntu, maybe someone has had a similar experience.  I don't actually use msn so I can't really help
[02:30] <NewbieBaba> ok tyt
[02:31] <NewbieBaba> i wanted to ask if u're playin any Windows game but i bet you dont have time for games :P
[02:31] <jrib> NewbieBaba: nope, I gave up games when I switched to Linux :)
[02:32] <jrib> NewbieBaba: http://www.ubuntugames.org/  in portuguese but you should be able to make things out
[02:32] <NewbieBaba> i like online games :P
[02:32] <NewbieBaba> MMORPG
[02:36] <NewbieBaba> %90 to Ubuntu :)
[02:36] <NewbieBaba> jrib what about Beryl ?
[02:36] <jrib> NewbieBaba: #ubuntu-effects can help with that
[02:37] <NewbieBaba> ty :)
[02:37] <NewbieBaba> i was just wondering if u prefer that one
[02:38] <NewbieBaba> i want the best ubuntu system u know, themes, effects, etc things..
[02:50] <jrib> NewbieBaba: compiz and beryl are merging soon so it doesn't really matter.  At the moment beryl has more features and some claim compiz is more stable though I haven't really noticed that
[02:50] <NewbieBaba> oo thats good if they're merging :)
[02:50] <NewbieBaba> more new features for us :D
[02:54] <nothlit> theres amsn and mercury
[02:54] <nothlit> bittlbee
[02:58] <NewbieBaba> %70 left -.-
[03:00] <nothlit> Battle for wesnoth is like age of empires
[03:01] <nothlit> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page look at the games sections
[03:09] <NewbieBaba> jrib : cya around man thank you for taking your time with my newbie questions
[03:09] <NewbieBaba> late...
[03:33] <Sakabatou> Guys, asus wl 138g, only with ndiswrapper ?
[03:34] <Sakabatou> The lack of support of it its driving me crazy, feeling tempted to buy a RAlink
[05:06] <bodhi_zazen> Hello classroom :)


[00:00] <Daviey> adam_g: it does,             i['dnsName'] = i['publicDnsName'] or i['privateDnsName']
[00:00] <Daviey> and public is null, therefore using private.. so it's an issue higher in the stack
[00:01] <adam_g> Daviey: in terms of that bug:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/845172/
[00:02] <adam_g> Daviey: in api/ec2/ec2utils.py   avoiding that first attempt calls to the network driver for the actual info, and returns the correct floating_ip
[00:02] <Daviey> adam_g: that function is failing?
[00:02] <adam_g> $ echo $(curl -s http://<IP_ADDRESS>/2008-02-01/meta-data/public-ipv4)
[00:02] <adam_g> <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:02] <adam_g> its not failing
[00:03] <Daviey> adam_g: are you working on a fix for that?
[00:03] <adam_g> according to the cache, the floating ip is not associated with the instance, its associated some time after the cache is populated
[00:03] <adam_g> it gets an outdated cache hit
[00:03] <Daviey> adam_g: i wonder if, my case, it's because i keep restartng the api service
[00:04] <adam_g> Daviey: just trying to triage a bit
[00:05] <adam_g> Daviey: what do you mean? whats restarting the api server do?
[00:06] <Daviey> adam_g: where is the cache stored, ad flushed?
[00:06] <Daviey> and*
[00:08] <adam_g> Daviey: its stored in the database, see InstanceInfoCache(BASE, NovaBase) in db/sqlalchemy/models.py
[00:09] <adam_g> Daviey: AFAICS, it only stores network info. im not sure if or when the proper place to update it is
[00:15] <Daviey> adam_g: ah
[00:19] <Daviey> adam_g: confirmed, that if i force a fallback - it returns the correct value
[00:19] <Daviey> adam_g: therefore, i assume it used to faill, but now returns Null.
[00:20] <Daviey> I'm guessing after the first attempt, it's cached.
[00:22] <Daviey> adam_g: http://pb.daviey.com/bJ2Y/
[00:24] <adam_g> Daviey: the ip info returned form those get_* functions is more than just the IP you want, it contains both fixed and floating. so an empty floating_ip list just means there are no associated floating_ips, which there aren't when the instance is created / cache initially populated
[00:29] <Daviey> ah
[00:33] <Daviey> adam_g: http://pb.daviey.com/qcQx/
[00:34] <Daviey> adam_g: so the odd thing is, it IS cached after a successful run
[00:35] <adam_g> Daviey: weird. a successful run, meaning, a fallback to the network_api?
[00:36] <Daviey> adam_g: that is what i think
[00:36] <Daviey> adam_g: new instance, without a floating_ip and the original one with http://pb.daviey.com/zO5j/
[00:39] <Daviey> adam_g: so, run-instance produced a FAIL (expected, as it doesn't have an address at reserve time)
[00:39] <adam_g> Daviey: ah, hmm. ill tryo with a fresh instance
[00:46] <Daviey> adam_g: want my log from a fresh instance?
[00:46] <adam_g> Daviey: nah, i think we're seein the same thing now
[00:46] <Daviey> The first one shows a FAIL, then SUCCESS
[00:46] <Daviey> http://pb.daviey.com/WfEA/
[00:48] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #933818 in nova "public-ipv4 metadata url not working" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933818
[00:48] <adam_g> Daviey: right, the bug is that it will never fail and refresh its cache, just because its not up to date with floating ip info
[00:49] <Daviey> right
[00:49] <adam_g> Daviey: so, with your version, what happens if you deallocate the address and allocate a different ip ? :)
[00:55] <Daviey> adam_g: trying
[00:55] <Daviey> sorry, went afk
[00:56] <adam_g> Daviey: i think the whole meta-data handler needs a giant refactoring, it would solve this and (all of the) other problems
[00:57] <roaksoax> Daviey: still around?
[00:59] <Daviey> adam_g: http://pb.daviey.com/Tb4B/ .. see the logs inline
[00:59] <Daviey> roaksoax: yah
[01:00] <Daviey> adam_g: i'm not convinced it is floating_ip related
[01:00] <Daviey> i'd expect to see a FAIL there...
[01:02] <Daviey> adam_g: although... floating_ip is constantly null
[01:03] <Daviey> adam_g: ah, interesting... the cache is present, but not 'correct'
[01:04] <adam_g> Daviey: right, its not updated with floating_ips
[01:05] <zul> adam_g: i just pused a new python-keystoneclient to the ubuntu-server-dev
[01:06] <roaksoax> Daviey: pm
[01:07] <zul> adam_g: argparse has been removed from the egg as well
[01:07] <adam_g> zul: nice, thanks. hopefully ill finally be able ot try that soon
[01:07] <zul> adam_g: ill upload it to the archive tomorrow
[01:07] <adam_g> zul: just the client, right?
[01:07] <zul> right
[01:07] <adam_g> q!
[01:07] <adam_g> q
[01:26] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #927803 in postfix (main) "Fails to launch recovery menu when (at least) Postfix installed" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/927803
[01:30] <adam_g> zul: what PPA are the new keystone packages going to?
[01:37] <zul> adam_g: it will be going in https://launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-testing/+archive/openstack-ksl-testing starting tomorrow
[01:38] <adam_g> zul: cool
[01:38] <adam_g> zul: what time you doing the opentack snapshot?
[01:38] <zul> adam_g: tomorrow morning
[01:39] <adam_g> zul: https://review.openstack.org/#change,4149 <- i screwed pep8 with one freakin space on this, but hopefully it can get merged before
[01:39] <zul> okies
[03:07] <BuenGenio> is the PHP 5.3.10 update coming to 11.04/10 any time soon?
[04:30] <twb> ARGH.  Grub you're causing problems *AGAIN*
[04:31] <twb> I have this as a BCP: http://paste.debian.net/156590/
[04:31] <twb> But guess what, it looks like triggers (including the kernel post-hook to rewrite grub.cfg) happen *AFTER* the dpkg post-invoke
[06:05] <tewea> i have an external hard disck but i coudn't write to it  just iam using FAT32 fomat please help me?
[06:11] <twb> Scratch that, it looks like apt.conf isn't reread between aptitude sub-runs.  Mea culpa.
[06:18] <tewea> i have an external hard disck but i coudn't write to it  just iam using FAT32 fomat please help me?
[06:26] <BuenGenio> is the PHP 5.3.10 update coming to 11.04/10 any time soon?
[06:29] <twb> SpamapS might know, if he's awake.
[06:33] <journeeman> Hi. I am running 11.10 amd64-server. I had installed xubuntu on the machine so, xserver got installed automatically. I need xserver to run as a daemon after startup so I can forward graphics over ssh but, I also need to have the default runlevel as Multiuser text, i.e. `3' in the old unix way.
[06:33] <journeeman> How do I do this? Aprreciate any help :)
[06:36] <twb> journeeman: we discourage use of GUIs on servers
[06:36] <twb> runlevels 2 through 5 are identical on Ubuntu systems; "3 is text; 5 is GUI" is a RHism
[06:37] <twb> To disable GUI on startup, find /etc/init/gdm.conf and comment out the start-on line, where "gdm.conf" may be xdm.conf or kdm.conf or similar.
[06:37] <twb> ssh -X requires only the xauth program, not all of X.  xauth is in its own package as at 11.10.
[06:39] <twb> If this is a fresh install, recommend you reinstall from scratch, and only install xauth and the specific app you want (e.g. firefox), but *not* the xubuntu-desktop or xorg or gdm packages.
[06:40] <journeeman> twb: Okay. I uninstalled xubuntu later. Didn't uninstall lightdm or other X packages. This is not a fresh install. Can't afford to re-install. That's definitely the last option.
[06:42] <twb> if your server is just hosting the X apps, which X confusing calls the "client side", you only need the X app, xauth and openssh-server.  You *don't* need the X "server" side, i.e. lightdm and xserver-xorg
[06:42] <journeeman> Okay, cool.
[06:44] <journeeman> Okay, I commented out the `start on' line in lightdm.conf. So that should not start GUI on startup, right? Will it start X though? How do I stop xserver from starting?
[06:45] <koolhead11> hi all
[06:46] <journeeman> twb: Thank you very much for the help :)
[06:50] <koolhead11> SpamapS: do i have to add a diff repo to get the latest 5.3.10 pkg?
[06:57] <koolhead11> got it, apt-pinning :)
[06:59] <twb> koolhead11: the x server doesn't 'start' at all
[06:59] <twb> Sorry, bad completion
[06:59] <koolhead11> twb: np :)
[06:59] <twb> journeeman: lightdm starts an X server, but for ssh -X the X server is running on the place you're sshing *from*
[07:00] <journeeman> oh okay..
[07:09] <journeeman> twb: Okay, got it. Removed xserver-xorg-* and allied packages as well as lightdm. Everything works great. Thanks. :)
[07:36] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #934011 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.7.0-1ubuntu0.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934011
[09:06] <jamespage> morning all
[09:49] <jamespage> Daviey: around?
[09:58] <jamespage> rbasak, hows openmpi looking?
[09:59] <rbasak> good!
[09:59] <rbasak> I needed one fix, a DSO-related thing
[09:59] <rbasak> Apart from that the only issue was build-deps and ordering as I haven't quite got a streamlined transition testing system
[10:00] <rbasak> Also I have news of a test suite, though I haven' tlooked at that yet
[10:05] <jamespage> rbasak, so do you think we will propose a full transition? or just upload a 1.5 versioned package to universe?
[10:07] <rbasak> jamespage: assuming that a full rebuild test succeeds, and I can operate the MPI test suite successfully, I see no reason why we shouldn't do a full transition - apart from the timing, but I don't think anyone would have done any more testing had we uploaded a transition earlier this cycle anyway.
[10:08] <Fudge> hiq uick question, is the console available from live cd ubuntu-server
[10:08] <rbasak> jamespage: but it may not be absolutely necessary - it just seems cleaner to me. What do you think?
[10:08] <jamespage> rbasak, I agreed that its cleaner
[10:08] <jamespage> we would probably push for the transition early next release anyway.
[10:09] <rbasak> My doubts were about testing, and now that I understand that there is an MPI test suite, it doesn't seem to be so much of an issue.
[10:09] <jamespage> rbasak, there is a transition tracker we can get this sort of stuff setup in which might help a bit
[10:09] <rbasak> Oh, really? That would be helpful
[10:10] <jamespage> rbasak, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/
[10:10] <koolhead11> https://launchpad.net/bugs/934064
[10:10] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 934064 in horizon "Installing openstack-dashboard on Precise removes Keystone package" [Undecided,New]
[10:10] <koolhead11> is it?
[10:11] <rbasak> Just having a complete list of rdepends would be good. I'd like a recursive option to reverse-depends. I was going to write that today :)
[10:12]  * koolhead11 is trying it out
[10:12] <uksysadmin> koolhead11: I've just raised that bug
[10:13] <koolhead11> uksysadmin: am testing it. i doubt it could be the case
[10:13] <koolhead11> still
[10:15] <koolhead11> horizon uses keystone :)
[10:17] <koolhead11> uksysadmin: what is the pkgname 4 dashboard openstack-dashboard or openstack-horizon
[10:27] <jamespage> rbasak, http://paste.ubuntu.com/845579/
[10:27] <jamespage> I grabbed the codebase and tried it for openmpi
[10:28] <jamespage> that at least gives us the transition order
[10:29] <rbasak> jamespage: awesome, thanks! I found xdeb which can provide a build sequence, but that doesn't help with parallelism without using xdeb itself which doesn't use sbuild.
[10:29] <jamespage> rbasak, once you are happy that we can transition and we have a FFE exception I suggest we ask to get this setup in the transition tracker
[10:30] <rbasak> jamespage: I have a patch for blacs-mpi btw, that causes its rdepends to FTBFS
[10:31] <rbasak> jamespage: I'd like to do a full rebuild test which should work better this time with the dependency information. I'll set it up today with parallel builds to speed it up.
[10:31] <rbasak> jamespage: and then I'll get started on the test suite.
[10:31] <jamespage> rbasak, are you installing the resulting artifacts?
[10:32] <rbasak> jamespage: no, although I noticed that sbuild has a piuparts thing that can do that. Do you want me to enable it?
[10:32] <rbasak> jamespage: I take it you're asking me to check if the generated debs are installable?
[10:32] <jamespage> rbasak: that might be helpful with the FFE
[10:32] <rbasak> OK
[10:33] <jamespage> rbasak, no I'm saying that for later tiers of dependencies you will need to rebuild against the packages you just built
[10:33] <jamespage> make sense?
[10:33] <rbasak> Ah yes - I have been doing that
[10:33] <rbasak> I modified my sbuild to use add a local repo, and have that pinned at higher priority
[10:33] <rbasak> That's how I discovered the blacs-mpi problem.
[10:34] <jamespage> right - I see
[10:34] <jamespage> FYI the level 0 and 1 dependencies can be folder
[10:34] <jamespage> mpi-defaults does not need to be rebuilt
[10:34] <jamespage> *folded
[10:37] <uksysadmin> koolhead11: openstack-dashboard
[10:37] <uksysadmin> couldn't find one referencing horizon... lemme check again.
[10:38] <uksysadmin> nope - openstack-dashboard it is, references a python-django-horizon
[10:38] <Stef2> when i start ubu server some errors appear but they dissapear fast. how can i see all the text that appear on screen util ubu login?
[10:39] <Stef2> *screen until
[10:43] <Daviey> jamespage: always
[10:43] <jamespage> Daviey, good morning!
[10:43] <jamespage> late one last night?
[10:44] <Daviey> jamespage: sadly, all too often
[10:50] <koolhead11> uksysadmin: i can see keystone still there
[10:50] <koolhead11> i dont think its a bug
[10:50] <koolhead11> :)
[10:51] <koolhead11> Daviey: am bit famous today!! :P
[10:54] <jamespage> Daviey: I wanted your opinion on something in a new package I've reviewing
[10:55] <jamespage> bug 930422
[10:55] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 930422 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] rds Resara Server" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930422
[10:55] <jamespage> all-in-all its looking OK; however I'm uncomfortable about the embedded source of qtrpc2 in this package
[10:56] <jamespage> Daviey, wanted to double check I'm not being irrational!
[10:57] <Daviey> jamespage: you seem to be being quite thorough :)
[10:58] <jamespage> Daviey: I learn't from the master of thorough!
[10:58] <uksysadmin> gets removed on my setup :(
[10:58] <Daviey> jamespage: Hah.. right, so - if it were me, i think i'd be tempted to, at this stage, just make the changes myself and upload
[10:59] <jamespage> Daviey: with a FFE exception of course :-)
[11:00] <Daviey> jamespage: it seems they went to the effort.
[11:00] <Daviey> https://launchpad.net/~resaraserver/+archive/resaraserver/+build/2046346
[11:01] <jamespage> Daviey: it looks so
[11:01] <jamespage> hence my slight discomfort with it being embedded
[11:02] <Daviey> jamespage: i'd get clarification on that, but the rest of the things i'd just change muyself.
[11:03] <jamespage> Daviey: OK - I'll catch brendan this afternoon (he's east coast)
[11:04] <jamespage> Daviey: can i get an FFE for this on #ubuntu-release or do I need to justify in the bug and sub ubuntu-release?
[11:05] <Daviey> jamespage: Add ratonal on the bug, subscribe ~ubuntu-release.. and give me a ping. :)
[11:05] <koolhead11> uksysadmin: gosh you are right :)
[11:05] <jamespage> Daviey: OK - I'll get the rationale for the embedded qtrpc2 library sorted out and do so later today
[11:05] <Daviey> jamespage: add [FFe] to the title
[11:06] <Daviey> jamespage: sorry, rational for a FFe
[11:06] <jamespage> Daviey: yeah - got that!
[11:06] <koolhead11> uksysadmin: i installed keystone after installing dashboard and its telling me it will remove whole horizon. gosh
[11:06] <Daviey> jamespage: groovy!
[11:07] <uksysadmin> koolhead11: yup. bug :p
[11:07] <koolhead11> uksysadmin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/845620/
[11:08] <uksysadmin> confirmed then.
[11:08] <koolhead11> yeah am adding my pastebin output there too in comment
[11:08] <uksysadmin> great
[11:10] <koolhead11> uksysadmin: am sure it would be fixed and in the pinned repo.
[11:11] <uksysadmin> pinned repo?
[11:12] <koolhead11> uksysadmin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[11:12] <uksysadmin> cheers
[11:13] <uksysadmin> not sure I have a version I know works to pin though - does this suggest I install keystone, pin that and it won't get removed?
[11:13] <uksysadmin> sounds like a fudge when it comes to dependency checking
[11:14] <koolhead11> uksysadmin: i think this will keep you updated with the daily developments i suppose
[11:15] <uksysadmin> true - will see how it goes.  I appreciate that essex on precise is a moving target.
[11:16] <uksysadmin> keystone is getting a hammering in this release - dialogs boxes popping up asking user input, to getting removed by unrelated packages! ;-)
[11:16] <koolhead11> essex/precise/precious == win!! :)
[11:16] <uksysadmin> I for one is looking forward to the Randy Robin release in 2013 ;-)
[11:19] <Daviey> rvba: Hey, do you have a moment?
[11:22] <rvba> Daviey: sre, what's up?
[11:22] <rvba> sure*
[11:23] <Daviey> rvba: So, i wanted to run a patchset against you for django.
[11:23] <rvba> Daviey: all right…
[11:24] <Daviey> bug 905837 , has patches attached.. but differ from upstream.
[11:24] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 905837 in python-django "python-django 1.3-2ubuntu1.1 is incompatible with Psycopg2 2.4.2-1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/905837
[11:25] <Daviey> rvba: specifically, from django.db.backends.postgresql.introspection import DatabaseIntrospection as PostgresDatabaseIntrospection , isn't removed.
[11:26] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #934118 in nova (main) "Floating ips not available to instances after upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934118
[11:26] <rvba> Daviey: I have some reading to do now :)
[11:27] <Daviey> rvba: sorry!
[11:27] <rvba> Daviey: That's ok ;).  I'll look into the patches.
[11:28] <Daviey> rvba: thanks
[11:28] <rvba> Daviey: I mean you just gave me some reading to do ;)
[11:28] <rvba> Daviey: so you want me to make sure the patch is fine is that it?
[11:29] <rvba> Daviey: The one proposed on the ticket.  Because the fact that it differs from the upstream patch worries you a bit.… right?
[11:29] <rvba> Proposed on the lp bug that is…
[11:30] <rvba> Daviey: just making sure because I'm kinda new to packaging (to say the least).
[12:05] <Daviey> rvba: right!
[12:05] <rbasak> jamespage: could you please review/sponsor bug 934138?
[12:05] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 934138 in blacs-mpi "libblacs-openmpi.so.1.1 does not declare its dependencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934138
[12:05] <rvba> Daviey: cool, I'm on it…
[12:05] <Daviey> rvba: It's not really packaging problem, just that the proposed diff's are different to trunk
[12:06] <rbasak> jamespage: (this is affecting rebuild testing but the bug is relevant to the current archive version too)
[12:06] <Daviey> rvba: thanks!
[12:06] <rvba> Daviey: right.
[12:09] <jamespage> rbasak, why did you need to switch gcc -> ld?
[12:10] <rbasak> jamespage: it did confuse me. gcc in that form isn't creating the desired result. To simplify things, I used ld, and it worked. I'm still baffled as to why it doesn't work using gcc, but all that line does is link object files, so ld would be more suitable anyway.
[12:11] <jamespage> rbasak, ack
[12:11]  * jamespage has discovered if my laptop fan runs harder it stops making a grinding noise!
[12:12] <rbasak> jamespage: apt-get install cpuburn? :-)
[12:12] <jamespage> rbasak, its still under warranty - raised a support call last night
[12:13] <rbasak> I had an RMA for my laptop but failed to get round to backing it up, switching to my spare and sending it off in the 7-day window they gave me :-(
[12:13] <Daviey> jamespage: 'grinding'.. crikey
[12:13] <jamespage> rbasak, next business day onsite warranty is worth it...
[12:14] <rbasak> hmm
[12:16] <rvba> Daviey: the second patch on lp is the same as the fix 16520 on django.  The first patch is the minimal effort that needed to done for the second patch to apply successfully (it simply copies db/backends/postgresql/creation.py to db/backend/postgresql_psycopg2).  It's a very short "summary" of what happened between 1.3 and trunk.
[12:16] <rvba> In django upstream, between 1.3 and trunk, the whole module db/backends/postgresql has been removed.
[12:16] <rvba>  "from django.db.backends.postgresql.introspection import DatabaseIntrospection as PostgresDatabaseIntrospection" is still there because all this renaming/deleting has not happened in 1.3 and the first patch only took care of the file creation.py where the meat of the real fix (the second patch on lp or changeset 16250 in django) happens.
[12:17] <rvba> Daviey: I haven't run the tests or anything yet but the fix seems very sane to me.
[12:17] <rvba> Daviey: do you want me to run the tests & all or have you done that already?
[12:18] <Daviey> rvba: ahh, so if i fold both patches into one.. you think it makes sense?
[12:18] <Daviey> rvba: no, i'll run the tests.. don't worry about that
[12:18] <Daviey> it was more the logic that didn't make sense to me :)
[12:19] <rvba> Daviey: absolutely, like I said, the first is a summary of what happened to the Django code base between 1.3 and trunk (the minimal amount for the second patch to be applied).
[12:19] <rvba> the first patch*
[12:22] <Daviey> rvba: thanks :)
[12:22] <jamespage> rbasak, you can still use gcc - but the -l's need to be moved to after the .o files in the command
[12:23] <rvba> Daviey: Glad to help.
[12:23] <jamespage> rbasak, http://paste.ubuntu.com/845710/
[12:23] <rbasak> jamespage: aha, thanks! I thought it was an ordering issue from memory but tried it the wrong way round :)
[12:23] <jamespage> OK if I make that minor change and upload?
[12:24] <jamespage> I hit a similar issue with some hadoop stuff a few weeks ago
[12:24] <rbasak> Sure, thanks! Sorry about forgetting update-maintainer too.
[12:24] <jamespage> rbasak, np - sponsor-patch did that for me :-)
[12:24] <rbasak> btw, are you sure that this will work? I haven't tested it now :)
[12:26] <rbasak> Just testing it now.
[12:28] <jamespage> rbasak, I just tested it and uploaded
[12:28] <rbasak> jamespage: thanks. Just this second my test succeeded.
[12:28] <jamespage> rbasak, http://paste.ubuntu.com/845713/
[12:29] <jamespage> rbasak, please can you make sure that gets submitted back to debian
[12:29] <jamespage> I would suspect they have the same issue
[12:29] <rbasak> Interesting - I get something slightly different.
[12:30] <rbasak> http://pastebin.com/vPvEc0BU
[12:30] <rbasak> I wonder what libopen-pal is? Anyway I don't suppose it matters.
[12:30] <rbasak> I'll file a Debian bug now.
[12:30] <jamespage> rbasak, you know submittodebian?
[12:31] <rbasak> I'd heard of it, but never used it. I shall use it now, thanks :)
[12:32] <jamespage> saves alot of time!
[12:34] <rbasak> jamespage: hmm. It's not going to work from the mostly-unconfigured with no functioning mail cloud instance I have the sources on! :-/
[12:42] <jamespage> no
[12:45] <Daviey> rbasak: no functionig mail ?
[12:46] <rbasak> Daviey: not unless you appreciate emails from root@localhost and your spam filter allows them through, or I configure stuff correctly. The cloud I'm using has outbound SMTP blocked at the moment, too.
[12:49] <Daviey> rbasak: configuring outbound isn't  challenge, and the key is that port 25 is blocked, not SMTP :)
[12:50] <rbasak> Daviey: I don't want to put my outbound submission credentials on a cloud instance either!
[12:50] <rbasak> (nor have I got round to automating it in some way)
[12:51] <Daviey> rbasak: ah, i created a special user just for it.
[12:56] <rbasak> Daviey: I don't have that luxury :)
[13:52] <zul> morning
[13:53] <jamespage> hey zul
[13:58] <zul> hey jamespage
[14:18] <smoser> rbasak, http://paste.ubuntu.com/845863/
[14:18] <smoser> that works now with latest cloud image
[14:18] <smoser> basically a much saner way than OVF manipulation to seed the image.
[14:20] <rbasak> smoser: that's brilliant - thanks!
[14:26] <smb> smoser, Awesome, this answers my question that I was thinking to ask about a minimal set of data for meta and user data. :)
[14:31] <smb> smoser, Maybe one additional question about that: can the password that way set to be empty (just having nothing beyond the password:)?
[14:31] <smoser> smb, are you asking if you can set an empty password ?
[14:32] <smb> smoser, Yes, that was my intention
[14:32] <smoser> it doesn't look like it.
[14:32] <smoser> cloud-init just uses chpasswd
[14:32] <smoser> and i can't get chpasswd to take an empty passwd.
[14:32] <smoser> smb, are you wanting ssh login ?
[14:33] <smoser> that can be done easily enough by inserting keys (which you can via user-data)
[14:33] <smb> Ah ok. Well just trying to get an end result similar to ec2. Not really sure the pw there is empty actually or whether sudoers just allows anything without a pw
[14:34] <smoser> smb, ah. yeah.
[14:34] <smoser> sudoers for the ubuntu user does not require a password
[14:34] <smoser> so what you want is to do something like this:
[14:36] <smb> Up to now I did some sort of uncloudify and used "passwd -d ubuntu" which is wrong in several ways I guess. :)
[14:37] <smoser> smb, http://paste.ubuntu.com/845895/
[14:37] <smoser> use that to write your user-data and your ssh-keys will get imported.
[14:37] <smoser> or use ssh-import-id
[14:37] <smoser> (which can be used from user-data too)
[14:38] <smoser> #cloud-config
[14:38] <smoser> ssh_import_id: stefan-bader-canonical
[14:39] <smb> I see. Ok. I'll giive those a try
[14:39] <smb> thanks
[14:50] <jamespage> hallyn, around? seeing and odd issue with lxc with duplicated mac addresses
[14:56] <jamespage> hmm - maybe utlemming then?
[15:01] <MTecknology> I'm trying to make a preseed file but getting stuck on the partitioning piece. I think I have everything else figured out. Any chance I could convince someone to take a peak at what I have? http://dpaste.com/704419/
[15:01] <caribou> smb apw, I have a kernel question for you
[15:01] <hallyn> stgraber: workign o nthe lxc server guide - i'm going to work on getting all the other templates to work too, as part of that.
[15:01] <caribou> off the top of your head, would you remember any regression b/w Oneiric & Natty wrt the megasas module ?
[15:02] <stgraber> hallyn: good luck with fedora ;)
[15:02] <apw> caribou, not i
[15:02] <smb> not from the top of my head
[15:03] <caribou> The Oneiric installer is no longer to see the raid drives but it works well on Natty
[15:03] <hallyn> stgraber: ya
[15:03] <smb> caribou, Hm, I only remember some not yet supported cases for Lucid...
[15:05] <caribou> apw: smb here is the contents of the syslog with DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 on both installs : http://paste.ubuntu.com/845931/
[15:05] <caribou> it's using the same preseed file on both btw
[15:05] <smb> caribou, Hm... wasn't that maybe the driver that renamed devices... or was that another thing
[15:06] <caribou> I'll try the same with the precise daily build next week to compare
[15:07] <smb> caribou, One of your final lines in the oneiric case seems to have a scsi4 found and bound...
[15:08] <caribou> smb: yes, but after that there is nothing more and d-i goes ahead and ask which module should be loaded
[15:09] <caribou> smb: wait, no, the lines were much further & diluted in the log, my fault
[15:09] <smb> caribou, Right, so somehow the drive is not found, or none to say
[15:10] <caribou> smb: here is the rest of the log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/845939/
[15:11] <smb> caribou, Sorry got me a bit confused: is that oneiric or the natty one?
[15:12] <caribou> smb: sorry, this is the follow-up of the Oneiric syslog
[15:12] <smb> ah ok
[15:12] <smb> hm. there is some disk info...
[15:12] <caribou> smb: at the end it goes to SUBST disk-detect/module_select to ask for which module needs to be loaded
[15:13] <caribou> smb: with Natty, it continues without asking anything
[15:14] <smb> caribou, Yes. looks a bit weird. I see the info from the host scan, but not any sd devices being created
[15:15] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #934256 in lxc (universe) "lxc-clone should replace/change hwaddr when cloning containers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934256
[15:16] <caribou> smb: could this be caused by a race condition because of the fact that the host scan happens much later in the Oneiric log than on Natty where it appears right after the module is loaded ?
[15:19] <smb> caribou, Not sure. Actually it does not really seem to be "much" later. Just about one second after the messages about the adapter init
[15:19] <smb> and that could be just becuase we were at the end of that second
[15:29] <hallyn> jinkeys man pages need updating too
[15:31] <michael_tn> good day all, is this the correct channel for orchestra/juju discussions?
[15:32] <kirkland> michael_tn: sure
[15:32] <michael_tn> :-)
[15:32] <michael_tn> great,
[15:32] <kirkland> michael_tn: this channel is a bit better for orchestra;  #ubuntu-juju is a bit better for juju
[15:32] <michael_tn> we're experimenting with the build on some cluster hardware
[15:33] <michael_tn> and i anticipate a bit of handholding may be required
[15:33] <michael_tn> we have a pretty nice cluster we're repurposing to openstack
[15:35] <michael_tn> we have orchestra up and are about ready to move on to juju, but were a bit unsure whether to go ahead and provision a group of nodes in orchestra before bootstrapping juju or to do it after
[15:41] <jamespage> michael_tn, do you want to manage all of the nodes you have through juju?
[15:43] <michael_tn> hmmm ...
[15:43] <michael_tn> not sure, not considered that really
[15:44] <jamespage> michael_tn, OK; so for the node that you want juju to manage they have to be in a certain class in cobbler (part of orchestra)
[15:44] <michael_tn> the entire cluster is commited to openstack (two head nodes and 64 cluster nodes)
[15:45] <SpamapS> michael_tn: you simply need to identify them in orchestra, and put them in the 'available-mgmt-class' that you defined in your juju environments.yaml...
[15:45] <michael_tn> ok
[15:45] <SpamapS> michael_tn: juju will do the provisioning
[15:45] <michael_tn> juju will select those nodes at random?
[15:46] <jamespage> michael_tn, at the moment yes
[15:47] <michael_tn> ok
[15:48] <michael_tn> should we instantiate a single node to bootstrap juju at the start or just let bootstrap pick one out of our group?
[16:03] <jamespage> michael_tn, juju will pick one
[16:16] <Daviey> SpamapS: would you be able to look at bug 934013 ?
[16:16] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 934013 in mysql-5.5 "Mysql fails to start after upgrade to precise" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934013
[16:18] <michael_tn> ok, thanks, i'll spin up a few nodes and see if i can get juju bootstraped
[16:19] <michael_tn> our WOL is not working so i have to go boot things by had :-\
[16:25] <kyconquers> what does this error mean? http://pastebin.com/ANuDMQRR I have narrowed it down to one line, I am clicking on an input field.
[16:29] <brendan0powers> jamespage: Hi, thanks for taking another look
[16:31] <SpamapS> Daviey: I think I fixed that yesterday...
[16:31] <SpamapS> Daviey: oh, no.. hrm.. thats the new version
[16:32] <SpamapS> Looks like the apparmor profile is still borked
[16:32] <Daviey> :(
[16:36] <SpamapS> Daviey: I think its actually caused by incomplete /run migrations... but we should still be able to run things. :p
[16:36] <jamespage> hey brendan0powers: thanks for doing those updates
[16:37] <jamespage> brendan0powers, so - qtrpc2 - why do you need it within the rds packaging?
[16:37] <jamespage> it could be packaged separately?
[16:37] <Daviey> SpamapS: Make sure you thank lennart.
[16:37] <SpamapS> Daviey: whoa wait.. this is weird
[16:38] <SpamapS> Daviey: I think it may be a confflie transfer of ownership issue
[16:38] <brendan0powers> jamespage: It could be, but rds is the only software that uses it(that I'm aware of), and since it lives in the rds VCS, it's released at the same time Resara Server is
[16:39] <Daviey> SpamapS: This adds to my confidence of upgrade testing :)
[16:40] <robbiew> heh
[16:46] <jamespage> brendan0powers, so its part of rds? I think I'm misunderstanding how it relates to rds
[16:48] <brendan0powers> jamespage: QtRPC was a library Resara developed for our last product, which was closed source. At one point, we posted a version of it on google code with an open source license
[16:48] <jamespage> brendan0powers, ah - I see - so it versions and releases inline with rds
[16:48] <brendan0powers> jamespage: But now, it lives in the Resara server repository, with an open source license
[16:48] <brendan0powers> yes
[16:49] <jamespage> brendan0powers, OK - look I'll do the updates to the package as I documented in the bug report
[16:49] <brendan0powers> Oh, I'm already part way through that
[16:49] <jamespage> brendan0powers, excellent!
[16:50] <jamespage> brendan0powers, so the normal place to document things folk should understand about stuff like this is in debian/README.source
[16:50] <jamespage> could you add a few notes while you are doing the updates?
[16:50] <brendan0powers> Notes about what?
[16:50] <brendan0powers> QtRpc?
[16:50] <jamespage> brendan0powers, yep
[16:50] <brendan0powers> Ok, I will do that
[16:50] <jamespage> +1
[16:55] <michael_tn> off to data center, bbiaw with more questions i imagine :-)
[16:55] <michael_tn> thanks for the help!
[17:05] <MTecknology> preseed files seem to be nice and well documented until it comes to partitioning.... :(
[17:06] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #760443 in bacula (main) "Bacula installation fails at dbconfig-common stage" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760443
[17:09] <brendan0powers> jamespage: I'm not sure I understand the copyright stuff
[17:09] <jamespage> brendan0powers, leave that with me then - I'll update
[17:09] <brendan0powers> jamespage: I modified the 2 LGPL-2 licenses to be LGPL-2+
[17:10] <brendan0powers> jamespage: ok, then all the issues should be fixed
[17:10] <brendan0powers> I need to run i through pbuilder to make sure
[17:12] <jamespage> brendan0powers, OK - let me know when you are happy
[17:12] <jamespage> I'll re-clone and update as required.
[17:31] <brendan0powers> jamespage: Ok, everything is pushed to the repo
[17:31] <jamespage> brendan0powers, ack
[17:31] <brendan0powers> jamespage: you can re-clone and take a look
[17:34] <hallyn> jamespage: good catch on lxc-clone and hwaddrs :)
[17:34] <hallyn> i'll add that to the HUGE SLEW of changes i'm doing today
[17:34] <jamespage> hallyn, w00t!
[17:34] <jamespage> took me a while to figure out what was going on
[17:53] <hallyn> stgraber: fedora template pretty much working.  though repos aren't quite working after start...  more work to do
[17:56] <Plizzo> I have an installation of Ubuntu Server 11.10 x64 which is freezing completely at random occasions. I've tried to modify the grub parameters, change kernel, running memtests, tailing logs, but nothing helps. Does anyone here know how to solve this?
[17:58] <brendan0powers> jamespage: It seems there is an issue with the packages in the repo
[17:59] <brendan0powers> jamespage: librdsserver1 is depending on librdslap, and not librdsldap1
[17:59] <brendan0powers> It's not listed in the control file, so debhelper must be generating the dependency
[18:00] <jamespage> brendan0powers, that maybe an shlibs problem
[18:01] <jamespage> brendan0powers, shlibs.local
[18:01] <jamespage> needs a tweak
[18:04] <brendan0powers> forgot about that file
[18:06] <jamespage> it kinda works i.e. it will install because librdsldap1 replaces librdsldap
[18:07] <jamespage> brendan0powers, anyway I have to finish reviewing this on Monday  - thanks for all of the updates you have done to  the package
[18:07] <brendan0powers> Ok
[18:07] <jamespage> once I've confirmed it builds and installs OK I'll get the FFe and get it uploaded.
[18:07] <brendan0powers> Awsome
[18:07] <brendan0powers> I'll continue poling around a little more and see if I find any more issues
[18:08] <brendan0powers> I'll update the bug report if I find anything
[18:18] <adam_g> zul: thoughts on reenabling the libvirt console patch on CI?
[18:19] <zul> adam_g: im trying it out locally still
[18:21] <zul> adam_g: if im happy with it then ill re-enable it
[18:22] <adam_g> hm ok
[18:24] <Potatoe> I am sending sip packets to my server. On my server I am running ngrep on the interface where the packets are coming from. Some packets are not arriving in ngrep even though I see them on tcpdump leaving the remote site. What's odd is it's always the same packets that are being dropped. is there any filter that might drop packets before ngrep ?
[18:34] <Potatoe> Can packets by dropped by the kernel before hitting ngrep or tcpdump ?
[18:35] <rbasak> Potatoe: as far as I'm aware, no, provided that you're capturing on a real interface (not a bridge or something).
[18:35] <rbasak> Potatoe: I'd use tcpdump on both ends with identical filters to verify.
[18:35] <Potatoe> eth0 which is a nic on the moboard
[18:47] <Potatoe> it says '0 packets dropped by the kernel;
[18:53] <brendan0powers> jamespage: I have updated the repo with the shlibs.local fix, rebuilt the packages, and verified they install
[18:56] <JanC> Potatoe: what type of traffic isn't seen by ngrep?
[19:09] <Potatoe> SIP Packets
[19:09] <Potatoe> but only some are disappearing, so it's not a nat issue
[20:01] <RoyK> Potatoe: anything in iptables_
[20:01] <Potatoe> No
[20:01] <Potatoe> I reset everything iptables-save and see nothing
[20:01] <Potatoe> accept by default
[20:01] <RoyK> then kernel really shouldn't drop anything
[20:20] <Potatoe> That's what I thought
[20:20] <Potatoe> It's my understanding that ngrep/tcpdump shows data before it hits iptables
[20:23] <RoyK> Potatoe: iirc before the filter table, yes, but not sure about the rest
[20:23] <RoyK> Potatoe: anyway - what sort of software is this?
[20:25] <Potatoe> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS with Kamailio 3
[20:27] <Potatoe> I think it might be related to the ethernet bonding rules which I know little about
[20:38] <patdk-wk> heh? your using bonding?
[20:38] <patdk-wk> you better be very careful what mode you use, and make sure your nic's and switch supports it
[20:39] <patdk-wk> plus whatever you talking to supports that mode also (for a few modes)
[20:41] <Potatoe> how do I get the network card back into 'master'
[20:41] <stgraber> hallyn: uploading udev now
[20:42] <patdk-wk> unplug the other network cards?
[20:42] <Potatoe> I tried to activate the bonding mode
[20:42] <Potatoe> it didn't work
[20:42] <Potatoe> now the network card won't work in non bonded mode
[20:42] <Potatoe> it says 'RUNNING SLAVE'
[20:42] <patdk-wk> heh?
[20:42]  * patdk-wk might recommend learning how bonding works, before you go and use it
[20:42] <Potatoe> I tried to activate bonding
[20:42] <Potatoe> now nothing works
[20:43] <Potatoe> I reset the interfaces script to what I had before
[20:43] <Potatoe> and ran /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:43] <patdk-wk> that won't unbond
[20:43] <patdk-wk> in fact, that is a horrible idea to do, ever
[20:43] <Potatoe> how do I go back
[20:43] <patdk-wk> this is what ifup/ifdown is for
[20:43] <patdk-wk> at this point? reboot
[20:49] <Potatoe> that fixed the original config
[20:55] <patdk-wk> what bonding mode did you attempt?
[21:13] <joren> Hey, I've got a serve rwith a raid setup that I just replaced a disk in, and it's taking for ever to come up now (been waiting 5 minutes so far.) I don't see any disk activity, and the last output was /dev/md1 clean
[21:25] <joren> is there any way to get a more verbose output of what it's doing?
[21:26] <jacobw> what model of raid controller is it?
[21:30] <joren> software raid
[21:30] <joren> maybe the array is just being slow, but it really doesn't seem to be hitting the disks at all
[21:31] <joren> I'll give it a bit longer and then just remove the array from fstab I guess
[21:36] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #934515 in python-novaclient (main) "--meta key=value cannot accept '=' in value" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934515
[22:11] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #934534 in nova (main) "metadata ami-launch-index coming back off-by-one" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934534
[22:43] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #934540 in bacula (main) "package bacula-common-pgsql 5.2.3-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/bacula/libbaccats.la', which is also in package bacula-common 5.2.3-0ubuntu2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934540
[22:47] <vindav> Hello, I am a Ubuntu 11.10 newbie gaining experience and have a new project in which I want to back up my local drive to my local network access storage drive (LaCie d2).  Can anyone provide a solution or a step by step process of how this can be achieved please ?
[23:09] <vindav> I we'll if it can help the majority, 'Grsync' is the resident program that is used to accomplish the task I am looking to do to do local drive to a network access storage device.  I tested this out and found that I can do so far a single folder transfer with contents.  Now, if I can do multiple folders in a transfer with automatic timely transfers, I think we'll have something happening.    These things can be a bitch to troubleshoot
[23:25] <Plizzo> I know, I've been trying to fix it for weeks.. :(
[23:25] <Spanky> See if the box runs 10.04LTS or run another server distro or WindowsServer or something and see what happens...
[23:25] <Spanky> You got any spare boxes in the closet....
[23:25] <Spanky> ?
[23:27] <Spanky> You could try a forked off server like Zentyal or even try Debian Server or what not...
[23:27] <qman___> if it freezes up without a kernel panic that's almost guaranteed hardware
[23:28] <Spanky> Just doesn't sound like a Server OS issue when you have random freezes...
[23:28] <qman___> even most freezes with kernel panics are hardware, but almost all freezes that are software will have a kernel panic
[23:28] <Spanky> Yep...
[23:28] <Plizzo> qman__: The logs are empty
[23:29] <Spanky> This is a new install right?
[23:29] <Plizzo> I've tried tailing all logs, but there are no irregulaatories
[23:29] <Plizzo> Spanky, not entirely new
[23:29] <Plizzo> I've had it since around new years
[23:29] <Spanky> Ewww...
[23:29] <Plizzo> And the problem seems to have started after I ran sudo update-grub
[23:29] <Plizzo> the first time
[23:29] <Plizzo> But at that time I had made no changes to the config file..
[23:30] <Spanky> Can you try a new install on a separate drive and just check the hardware...?
[23:30] <qman___> grub has no effect on the server while it's running
[23:30] <qman___> only when it's booting
[23:30] <Plizzo> Could the graphics drivers be causing this?
[23:30] <Spanky> Grub 2 has been pretty solid for me on the desktop.  I don't multi-boot my server hardware though so I don't get into the wooly stuff there...
[23:31] <qman___> without X, there aren't really any graphics drivers per se
[23:31] <qman___> if you're running KMS or a framebuffer you can try booting with it disabled
[23:31] <Plizzo> I run XBMC
[23:31] <Plizzo> XBMC-Live
[23:31] <Plizzo> But even without that and Xorg running, it still freezes
[23:32] <qman___> recent versions uses KMS by default, try booting with the option 'nomodeset'
[23:32] <Spanky> Yeah, I run Zentyal Server that uses LXDE and it's super low graphics overhead....  So even with X, not a lot of issues I've seen...
[23:32] <Plizzo> qman__ I have nomodeset already
[23:32] <Plizzo> I have an Nvidia 520 GPU in the server for 1080p decoding
[23:32] <Plizzo> And vdpau drivers installed
[23:33] <qman___> well, it could be a problem
[23:33] <qman___> but like I said
[23:34] <qman___> freezing up, if it's a software problem, almost always gives a kernel panic
[23:34] <qman___> like, five nines
[23:34] <Plizzo> Should I boot from a Live-CD usb and try having it on to see if it freezes?
[23:34] <Spanky> I'm out.... I don't put big graphics boards in my server boxes.
[23:34] <qman___> worth a shot
[23:35] <Plizzo> Alright, thanks
[23:35] <Spanky> As I suggested...  You have to nail down the problem... What server application you using that requires a NV 520?
[23:35] <qman___> while it's not really wrong in any way, media centers are a bit outside the normal scope of this channel
[23:36] <qman___> I'd bet money it's a hardware problem though
[23:36] <Spanky> Yeah, most of us shiners are just running a file, print server and maybe some FTP or WWW....
[23:36] <qman___> could try some sort of graphics card testing utility
[23:37] <Spanky> Can you boot Ubuntu desktop on that puppy?
[23:37] <Spanky> Live CD?
[23:42] <hallyn> so to be clear, we're not in ff, but right now we're not in any sort of upload freeze (for bugfixes) right?
[23:48] <hallyn> hm, lxc-start-ephemeral may need the macaddr fix too as lxc-clone did


[05:54] <SpamapS> wmp: upstart has never worked properly w/ vserver
[15:31] <wmp> SpamapS: i know this, but maybe is way to repair this
[15:32] <wmp> SpamapS: ubuntu 10.04 work good with vserver


[10:47] <mup> PR snapd#13343 closed: cmd/snap: use updated "current" revision after snap refresh run inhibition <Needs Samuele review> <Skip spread> <Created by ZeyadYasser> <Closed by ZeyadYasser> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13343>
[11:38] <ricotz> hello, please take a look at this stuck build - https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/df-libreoffice/+snap/libreoffice-fresh/+build/2320717
[11:38] <ricotz> the corresponding arm64 build is stuck the same way https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/df-libreoffice/+snap/libreoffice-fresh/+build/2320718
[11:39] <ricotz> this looks like a snapcraft bug to be, where is failing to handle the command-line output
[13:17] <mup> PR snapd#13416 opened: asserts: implement snap-resource-revision <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13416>
[14:22] <ogra> ricotz, this is merely a dead channel, better ask in #launchpad about builds
[14:22] <ricotz> ogra, please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapcraft/+bug/2046156
[14:22] <mup> Bug #2046156: Fails to parse build output and freezes indefinitely  <snapcraft (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2046156>
[14:23] <ogra> ricotz, i'm not in the snapd team (and i think the team itself is not even around here anymore since so many people changed there(
[14:24] <ricotz> ogra, I see, hopefully the bug report gets some attention
[14:24] <ricotz> thanks!
[14:24] <ogra> well, build failures might be helped with by the LP team, not sure this is even snapd or snapcraft related
[14:24] <ogra> FWIW the snapcraft people are on the charmhub mattermost instance ...
[16:48] <mup> PR snapcraft#4491 opened: Add Matter plugin <Created by MonicaisHer> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4491>
[16:58] <mup> PR snapd#13414 closed: aspects: improve errors caused by unexpected types <aspects> <Created by MiguelPires> <Merged by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13414>
[18:43] <mup> PR snapcraft#4492 opened: feat(projects): add components model <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4492>
[20:28] <mup> PR snapcraft#4475 closed: chore(deps): update dependency importlib-metadata to v7 <Dependencies> <Created by renovate[bot]> <Merged by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4475>
[21:39] <mup> PR snapd#13417 opened: tests: use load generator to generate load in perf tests <Run Nested -auto-> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13417>
[21:49] <mup> PR snapd#13415 closed: o/devicestate: extend CreateRecoverySystem to be able to build recovery system from validation sets <Needs Documentation -auto-> <Run Nested -auto-> <Created by andrewphelpsj> <Closed by andrewphelpsj> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13415>
[23:03] <mup> PR snapcraft#4492 closed: feat(projects): add components model <Created by mr-cal> <Merged by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4492>