[05:30] <wols> Moodles: on a remote machine or on the local machine where there ssh server runs?
[05:31] <hanif_> make sure to "completely" remove, including config files, especially if you plan a reinstall
[05:31] <fredbear> m-c I can't logon at the moment so can't sudo anytwhere.  I have a recovery root prompt
[05:31] <warcaptain> how can i modify my xorg config file?  displayconfig-gtk doesnt seem to work for me
[05:32] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: Do what now?
[05:32] <Moodles> wols, im ssh'd into the linux machine from my current winxp machine, i just want to make programs i type in ssh to appear on the ubuntu desktop
[05:32] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: You want to edit or reconfigure xorg.conf ?
[05:32] <aaron_> hi how do you install an Icon package on ubunut?
[05:32] <m-c> fredbear: Yikes - I thought you had another user created on that system
[05:32] <apex> wols: are you saying "apt-get purge *mysql*"
[05:32] <wolv> irc.rossw.net
[05:32] <rapid> i have to hit some keys twice, for them to appear once, ie, ` ´  .. wrong keymap, any ideas?
[05:33] <EvilDennisR> Moodles: export DISPLAY=":0.0
[05:33] <wols> Moodles: set the DISPLAY environment variable to localhost:0
[05:33] <wols> apex: no
[05:33] <EvilDennisR> Moodles: export DISPLAY=":0.0"
[05:33] <warcaptain> EvilDennisR: I want to reconfigure it.  Its not letting me use intel experimental drivers or set my monitor
[05:33] <wols> Moodles: this can only work this way if your ssh user and the desktop user are the same
[05:33] <warcaptain> From what I hear it tries to autoconfig itself right?
[05:33] <EvilDennisR> Moodles: And /inside/ the x-session you *might* have to do xhost + (Beware of xhost + though.. Check the man page)
[05:33] <warcaptain> It lags when it loads up ubuntu, I imagine when its trying to configure the graphics stuff
[05:33] <subcool> m-c: i see what u mean by a mess of problems. I just tried to view the permissions. ANd i have permission.
[05:33] <wols> Moodles: do NOT use xhost ever
[05:33] <fredbear> m-c I did, but then when I edited the /etc/.passwd file the second user dropped out
[05:33] <stevensj2> If my external modem connects (I'm on it now) - why won't webpages load?
[05:34] <warcaptain> I want to just set it and not have it try to autoconfig every time
[05:34] <EvilDennisR> wols: Whats wrong with xhost?
[05:34] <m-c> fredbear: you are able to login through the recovery console, right?
[05:34] <EvilDennisR> wols: ..assuming he's the only one with an account on that machine...
[05:34] <aaron_> hi how do you install an Icon package on ubunut?
[05:35] <bagelong> wols: Not sure if you saw.  I did not know the answer to your question about the VESA.
[05:35] <aaron_> *ubuntu
[05:35] <t35t0r> mobubuntu
[05:35] <SSDF> what is button 1 button 2 etc mean ?
[05:35] <subcool> m-c: i just unplugged it, and replugged it in. Now only root has permission. should i just chmod it and be done?
[05:35] <warcaptain> EvilDennisR: so?
[05:35] <m-c> subcool: You still getting hardware errors when you plug it in?  If so,then you need to fix them first
[05:35] <fredbear> I have a root prompt in recovery
[05:35] <|Zippo|> somebody solved google-gadgets trouble on hardy?
[05:36] <kelvin_> unavailable: 00:1A:0E:6A:A4:63
[05:36] <unavailable> ok
[05:36] <kelvin_> unavailable: btsco v0.42
[05:36] <kelvin_> Device is 1:0
[05:36] <kelvin_> Error: btsco open (1-0): No such device or address
[05:36] <subcool> m-c: its a stupid SATA to USB thing- maybe the drive is how?
[05:36] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: I have no idea what you did for your experamental drivers
[05:36] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: ..and I'm going to bed
[05:36] <wols> bagelong: it was no question. it was a statement of fact. until you run intel (as I told you) and show us the Xorg.0.log or error messages from there I cannot help you
[05:36] <warcaptain> -_-
[05:36] <warcaptain> again no real help comes from this room
[05:36] <warcaptain> its insane
[05:36] <m-c> subcool - yes, those are known to get problematic
[05:36] <warcaptain> thanks anyways
[05:37] <subcool> m-c: no not relaly- no errors
[05:37] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: Catch me when I'm not a few drinks in and have to wake up early for a meeting..
[05:37] <subcool> m-c: im sure they do, but.. not out of the box?
[05:37] <m-c> subcool what do you mean, not out of the box
[05:37] <wols> subcool: output of mount and ls -al  when inside the mountpoint
[05:37] <m-c> fredbear: Hw are you doing?
[05:37] <stevensj2> Can someone please help me with my modem? or perhaps suggest where more info can be found?
[05:37] <subcool> wols - k
[05:37] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg though, maybe...
[05:38] <subcool> m-c: the sata to usb is brand new. First time using it. Same with drive.
[05:38] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: Again, I dunno if you're using restricted drivers, or something you got somewhere
[05:38] <warcaptain> im only using atheros
[05:38] <wols> subcool: use another browser like lynx to check web access
[05:38] <fredbear> sorry, missed any instruction I have a root prompt at recovery
[05:38] <m-c> stevensj2: Internal or external model?  PCI card or on the motherboard?
[05:38] <warcaptain> ive tried it.. :( when i restart it changes back (and it still lags big time using compiz
[05:38] <subcool> wols: what?
[05:38] <wols> stevensj2: : use another browser like lynx to check web access
[05:38] <wasob> How can I give my user account permission to send/receive files via FTP????
[05:38] <stevensj2> m-c: it's an external Trendnet
[05:38] <wols> subcool: sorry. not for you
[05:39] <m-c> fredbear: add your user at the bottom of the /etc/passwd file , then do 'sudo passwd username' for your user name
[05:39] <subcool> wols: its ok.
[05:39] <bagelong> wols:  I do not mean to frustrate.  I thought you asked If it was running the slow VESA - I misread.  can you pleas give me the command so that I can show you the Xorg.O.log.  I thought that is what I did earlier.
[05:39] <wols> wasob: your account doesn't need that permission
[05:39] <warcaptain> but i have 4gb of memory and intel 3100 embedded graphics.. i was able to handle aero and compiz on gutsy just fine
[05:39] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: its prolly using the generic driver.. Did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras or uh.. erm.. wtf is the restricted driver dialog thingy
[05:39] <wasob> I keep getting "Permission Denied" When I try to transfer to my server via FTP
[05:39] <m-c> stevensj2: should be straight forward - there are many instructions for external modems if you search google
[05:39] <wols> bagelong: you right now run vesa and that shows in your current Xorg.0.log
[05:39] <subcool> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23018/
[05:39] <subcool> m-c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23018/
[05:39] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: jockey-gt
[05:39] <unavailable> kelvin_  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/222922
[05:39] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: jockey-gtk ...
[05:39] <fredbear> done
[05:39] <wols> bagelong: you need to run i810 or intel and THEN show the Xorg.0.log even when X then errors
[05:40] <subcool> you guys are machines!!!
[05:40] <subcool> i wish i could sit in here and give advice
[05:40] <m-c> fredbear: no errors?
[05:40] <spoon_man> damn sco....
[05:40] <stevensj2> @m-c: the modem works, I'm using it now. It will ping, download using apt-get, etc...but for one reason or another, websites act as if I'm offline
[05:40] <wols> subcool: chmod it to make it writable
[05:40] <fredbear> no
[05:40] <EvilDennisR> subcool: me too.. then you could help warcaptain with xorg and I could go to sleep..
[05:40] <subcool> k
[05:40] <esac> anybody ever built rdesktop from CVS before ? rdesktop from CVS says to do the standard GNU build procedure of ./configure but there is no configure script. any idea how I get it to build ?
[05:40] <wols> subcool: alternaitvely chown the mountpoint to your user
[05:40] <m-c> fredbear: add another user while you are here
[05:40] <EvilDennisR> esac: read the HOWTO
[05:40] <bagelong> wols:  how do I "run i810 or intel?"  I did not intentionally set it up the way it is now.  I simply did a "safe graphics mode" install, because I could not get an install any other way.
[05:41] <fredbear> ahead of you there :-)
[05:41] <subcool> ok. thanks wols -
[05:41] <stevensj2> perhaps a DNS issue? but I've enabled dynamic DNS in pppconfig - not sure what else I could do
[05:41] <wols> bagelong: with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:41] <EvilDennisR> esac: is there an autogen.sh ? Run that.. It will make a configure file and/or run said configure file
[05:41] <warcaptain> EvilDennisR: thanks
[05:41] <esac> there is no HOWTO or autogen.sh :(
[05:41] <warcaptain> subcool: how do i get it to stay using intel experimental drivers
[05:41] <kelvin_> unavailable: I went to the page but I don't see nothing for correct my error
[05:41] <wols> stevensj2: if apt-get and ping work it's no dns issue. do what I asked you
[05:41] <m-c> sudo useradd -d /home/testuser -m testuser; sudo passwd testuser
[05:41] <fredbear> ok, I got my second user back but my main userid still not allowing logons
[05:41] <EvilDennisR> esac: erm... *shrug* I dunno
[05:41] <wols> warcaptain: drives for what?
[05:41] <unavailable> kelvin_ thats because its new, and there is no correction yet
[05:42] <esac> oh there is a bootstrap file that seems to do it. but it needs autoreconf
[05:42] <warcaptain> i have embedded intel gma 3100
[05:42] <subcool> warcaptain: haha- no clue man. I have problems with the help man of man.
[05:42] <wols> warcaptain: edit your xorg.conf
[05:42] <esac> but i cant find autoreconf
[05:42] <EvilDennisR> wols: his video card..
[05:42] <stevensj2> ok - I will install lynx and see what happens
[05:42] <kelvin_> unavailable: oh sorry
[05:42] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: You /could/ edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and specify the drivers by hand..
[05:42] <unavailable> tis ok :P
[05:42] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: thats assuming they're installed all nicey nice
[05:42] <kelvin_> unavailable: so that mean that I have to wait until it get corrected?
[05:42]  * subcool agrees with EvilDennisR-
[05:43] <aaron_> how do you install an Icon package on ubunut?
[05:43] <bagelong> wols:  I am back to the place where it says "configuring xserver-xorg" and asks for a series of yes/no responses.
[05:43] <m-c> @stevensj2 Sorry- I've never seen anything like that
[05:43] <wols> bagelong: answer them
[05:43] <esac> when i do an apt-cache search autoreconf, it says that autoconf2.13 provides it but it has (obsolete version) after that. is there something newer for it ?
[05:43] <unavailable> kelvin_ prolly, you may wish to sign up to add your confirmation, and be on the mailing list for when there's a fix
[05:43] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: under section "Device", specify Driver
[05:43] <subcool> wols: whats the command for chmod lol..
[05:43] <warcaptain> wols: do i just put: device "intel experimental mode switching"
[05:43] <kelvin_> unavailable:  ok I'll do that
[05:43] <wols> esac: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:43] <warcaptain> or whatever
[05:43] <subcool> i keep missing something.
[05:43] <spoon_man> bagelong, you'll be fine as long as you know the weight of an unladen swallow
[05:43] <EvilDennisR> subcool: dude, chmod *IS* the command
[05:44] <wols> !permissions | subcool
[05:44] <subcool> i know.. lol-
[05:44] <EvilDennisR> subcool: wtf you trying to chmod?
[05:44] <m-c> fredbear: still not working?
[05:44] <ALPSINC> hello all
[05:44] <subcool> roflmao
[05:44] <aaron_> anyone know?
[05:44] <wols> subcool: also "man <command>" is wonderful
[05:44] <EvilDennisR> !hi | ALPSINC
[05:44] <unavailable> kelvin_r paste your uname -r in there too when you confirm
[05:44] <EvilDennisR> subcool: yeah, use man
[05:44] <bagelong> wols:  I only know the wait of a coconut laden swallow.
[05:44] <subcool> roflamo - im dieing
[05:44] <unavailable> kelvin_ paste your uname -r in there too when you confirm
[05:44] <ALPSINC> I want to be able to have the sendmail function be able to use my g-mail e-mail... is this possiable?
[05:45] <bagelong> spoon_man : that was meant for you.
[05:45] <wols> bagelong: it asks questions about your hardware
[05:45] <ALPSINC> (for system wide outputs)
[05:45] <wols> ALPSINC: yes, but why do you want sendmail?
[05:45] <stevensj2> m-c: me either. maybe a conflict with network settings, and it not recognizing it is connected? :/
[05:45] <spoon_man> it's cool, bagelong ;)
[05:45] <ALPSINC> wols: what ever... it doesn't matter :P
[05:45] <EvilDennisR> ALPSINC: wols is right... sendmail is yucky
[05:45] <ALPSINC> ^^
[05:45] <ALPSINC> i have no e-mailing function currently
[05:45] <unavailable> i disabled "draw desktop" in nautilus so my cube desktop would have different backgrounds for each workspace.  Now how do i get the icons back without messing up my different backgrounds?
[05:45] <m-c> fredbear: where are we at man, because it's time for me to cut out
[05:45] <EvilDennisR> wait, wtf
[05:45] <killux> hey, can anyone tell me how to get a 2.6.25 kernel working on hardy?
[05:45] <EvilDennisR> stop distracting me from going to bed!
[05:45]  * EvilDennisR & (bed!)
[05:46] <ALPSINC> lol
[05:46] <nickrud> unavailable you don't. Doing the same thing myself
[05:46] <wols> killux: you compile your own
[05:46] <unavailable> rofl
[05:46] <spoon_man> aplsinc, you sure you don't want to try Evolution or something?
[05:46] <unavailable> darn nautilus
[05:46] <fredbear> sorery mate, work started to get busy, will have to try later, thx for your help
[05:46] <killux> wols: is there any attempt to put it in the repos?
[05:46] <wols> ALPSINC: do you run your own email servre?
[05:46] <ALPSINC> spoon_man: what ever can send mail
[05:46] <aaron_> anyone know how to install an Icon package on ubunutu?
[05:46] <nickrud> unavailable yep. Dang compiz, can't get multiple backgrounds without the cube (as best I know)
[05:46] <unavailable> alpsinc wine ypops
[05:46] <warcaptain> EvilDennisR: do i put the driver file or the name of the driver?
[05:46] <wols> killux: next ubuntu version
[05:46] <ALPSINC> wols: runing from home, and cox
[05:46] <tc111> killux: check out http://kernel.org/
[05:46] <kelvin_> unavailable: 2.6.24-19-generic
[05:46] <bagelong> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23021/
[05:46] <chaco> when my laptop goes to sleep, it becomes unresponsive and cannot be woken up any more, the only option is to shut it down manually. how can i avoid this and make it wake up normally?  or should i just not let it sleep?
[05:46] <wols> ALPSINC: that'S no answer for my question
[05:46] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: the name of the driver
[05:47] <m-c> Good luck, everyone.  Hope your issues are all resolvable, or at least you learn something interesting while you fix them.
[05:47] <subcool> ah- so stupid. but so easy
[05:47] <ALPSINC> wols cox blocks stmp out and pop in
[05:47] <warcaptain> Section "Device"
[05:47] <warcaptain> 	Identifier	"Intel GMA 3100"
[05:47] <warcaptain>         Driver          "Experimental modesetting driver for Intel integrated graphics chipsets"
[05:47] <spoon_man> aplsinc, I recommend Evolution -- I have no idea how to use it since I only use webmail these days, but I hear good things
[05:47] <warcaptain> right?
[05:47]  * subcool Thanks Everyone - ttyl
[05:47] <EvilDennisR> erm, don't paste
[05:47] <wols> bagelong: that's fine
[05:47] <EvilDennisR> wait, what? No!
[05:47] <warcaptain> you said the name -_-
[05:47] <unavailable> kelvin_ i meant on the bug page
[05:47] <spoon_man> !evolution > ALPSINC
[05:47] <killux> wols: so hardy will never have a 2.6.25 kernel available? and I tried compiling it, my system came out terrible.
[05:47] <chaco> automatically
[05:47] <wols> ALPSINC: is port 465 blocked?
[05:47] <ALPSINC> wols: yes
[05:47] <bagelong> wols:  is that the output you wanted?
[05:47] <wols> killux: no, never
[05:47] <kelvin_> unavailable: yep i posted a comment
[05:47] <nickrud> evolution isn't too good with imap, which I would think is the main reason to use gmail with a local client
[05:47] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: You gotta know what the name of it is.. like Driver "nvidia" or Driver "ati" or Driver "fglrx"
[05:48] <unavailable> ok
[05:48] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: Use the restricted drivers thingy like I mentioned
[05:48] <wols> bagelong: no. I want Xorg.0.log from when it tried to use intel drivers
[05:48] <ALPSINC> wols: :80 in is blocked also :( so apache is on :81
[05:48] <Moodles> this is me remotely ssh'd in, cant seem to get this to work: http://rafb.net/p/ppgffm62.html
[05:48] <EvilDennisR> warcaptain: it /sometimes/ works
[05:48] <tc111> killux: no release with have an odd ending kernel as they are for testing only
[05:48] <ALPSINC> wols: just ftw...
[05:48] <fooks> hello there
[05:48] <wols> ALPSINC: either you answer my question or you can solve your own problems
[05:48] <nickrud> tc111 that's obsolete info now ....
[05:48] <fooks> i have a big issue
[05:48] <wols> ALPSINC: so do it please
[05:48] <kelvin_> unavailable: well thanks for all your help
[05:48] <ALPSINC> wols: again, Yes it is...
[05:48] <EvilDennisR> Moodles: You already have an x-sesson running ?
[05:48] <bagelong> wols:  I am sorry, I do not know what you are referring to.
[05:48] <warcaptain> EvilDennisR: all the drivers on that page are working
[05:48] <unavailable> kelvin_ glad to try
[05:48] <fooks> for some reason my /home directory is root only read only
[05:48] <indio> Hi.
[05:48] <ALPSINC> wols: no i do not run an e-mail server
[05:49] <fooks> so....when i try to log into gnome, it can't get a lock on various .hidden files
[05:49] <indio> Is there a way to keep track of package updates?
[05:49] <fooks> therefore failing to start
[05:49] <wols> ALPSINC: then you need a proxy on a port that does accept mail and forwards it to gmail
[05:49] <unavailable> nickrud so there arent any "turn desktop icons into widgits" appz?
[05:49] <EvilDennisR> fooks: You fool! You'll destroy us all! chown -r fooks:fooks /home/fooks
[05:49] <joseph_> Can someone help? Im totally new to Ubuntu
[05:49] <killux> tc111: kernel.org says The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:49] <aaron_> anyone know how to install an Icon package on ubunutu?
[05:49] <joseph_> Im trying to install Avast and I have to enter this code.. sudo dpkg -i avast4workstation_1.0.6-2_i386.deb
[05:49] <EvilDennisR> fooks: my bad, chown -R, capital R
[05:49] <joseph_> Where do i enter the code
[05:49] <fooks> i just installed hardy, and it seems to have done this on its own
[05:49] <ALPSINC> wols: hold up... i can send e-mail from my phpbb... the config is there...
[05:49] <EvilDennisR> fooks: wait, is /home/ owned by root? Is that what you mean?
[05:50] <fooks> EvilDennisR: much obliged, i had to drop into console to figure out what the dealio was
[05:50] <wols> joseph_: in a terminal in a directory where the deb file is present
[05:50] <fooks> EvilDennisR: yes
[05:50] <nickrud> unavailable not yet. I've added nautilus ~/desktop as an icon in cairo-dock, so I have easy access. But, no mounted drives, etc. I'm still deciding if I can make a workable environment
[05:50] <joseph_> Thanks
[05:50] <EvilDennisR> fooks: /home is owned by root
[05:50] <killux> i thought the second digit if it was odd then it was testing. Example 2.5.x tc111
[05:50] <EvilDennisR> fooks: /home *IS* owned by root..  Which means you have access to /home/yourusername
[05:51] <ALPSINC> wols: gmail uses a different port, and appearently uses tls crypt...
[05:51] <wols> bagelong: there was a lot more for you to do in this command when you said y to the overwrite of that xorg.conf file
[05:51] <ALPSINC> wols: what is your suguestion?
[05:51] <tc111> killux: refer to nickrud's reply... i'm behind the times... not the first time tonight
[05:51] <EvilDennisR> fooks: People's home directories go in /home ... Thus, uh... its slash home!
[05:51] <nickrud> unavailable I open the desktop, and have my remote sites as bookmarks. Works well enough
[05:51] <Falling-Inferno> Can someone tell me were the Dev channel is I need help with a python error.
[05:51] <fooks> EvilDennisR: gnome won't even load up because it can't access some file named .ICEblah
[05:51] <wols> ALPSINC: I ask you one last time: is port 465 outgoing open?
[05:51] <unavailable> aah
[05:51] <EvilDennisR> fooks: pastebin the error..
[05:51] <fooks> EvilDennisR: im saying my user folder inside /home/myusername and such
[05:51] <ALPSINC> wols: outgoing is open.
[05:52] <Starnestommy> Falling-Inferno: python's support channel is #python
[05:52] <killux> tc111: nickrud never replied to me...?
[05:52] <wols> ALPSINC: then use that as a smarthost for your MTA
[05:52] <EvilDennisR> fooks: .ICEauthority ?
[05:52] <unavailable>  #python
[05:52] <fooks> EvilDennisR: i can't drop into xserver since it won't load, and im not very proficient at console usage
[05:52] <bagelong> wols: it never asked me if I wanted to do that.  Only questions about the hardware.
[05:52] <fooks> EvilDennisR: that'd be the one
[05:52] <EvilDennisR> fooks: chown -R fooks:fooks /home/fooks
[05:52] <nickrud> killux sorry, I was answering a question about kernel versioning, I didn't see your original
[05:52] <Commie_Jebus> who here wubs ubuntu
[05:52] <ALPSINC> wols: what is an MTA?
[05:52] <wols> bagelong: you PASTED IT what it asked!
[05:52] <Starnestommy> ALPSINC: a Mail Transfer Agent
[05:52] <wols> ALPSINC: mail transfer agent. postfix or exim4
[05:52] <EvilDennisR> fooks: and obviously replace fooks with whatever your real username is
[05:52] <tc111> killux: no, but he did to me right after my post... - [12:48AM] <nickrud> tc111 that's obsolete info now ....
[05:52] <ALPSINC> ah, I see...
[05:53] <nickrud> unavailable actually I have 3 launchers in the dock:  Desktop, home, and Computer. So far, that's decent
[05:53] <killux> tc111: oh ok
[05:53] <aaron_> anyone know how to install an Icon package on ubuntu?
[05:53] <nickrud> !kernel | killux (don't compile unless you need some new functionality)
[05:53] <stevensj2> wols: i installed lynx - works fine, goes to any url I enter.
[05:53] <bagelong> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23022/
[05:53] <wols> bagelong: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:53] <nickrud> aaron_ create a directory ~/.icons, and extract the package there
[05:53] <ALPSINC> wols: one last question what, in your opinion, is the easiest MTA to set up?
[05:53] <Omlette> !lynx
[05:54] <wols> bagelong: yes that one if you did that: please paste the xorg.conf as I said. then stop X
[05:54] <aaron_> ok hang on
[05:54] <killux> nickrud: I don't need new functionality. I just need functionality. 2.6.24 cause my system to crash.
[05:54] <wols> !PM > joseph_
[05:54] <nickrud> killux hm, you sure it's the kernel? Not saying I'm the expert kernel troubleshooter, far from it
[05:54] <Commie_Jebus> werid
[05:54] <wols> stevensj2: so you have a firefox problem. maybe you have a non existing proxy entered or such
[05:55] <aaron_> ok done
[05:55] <tc111> killux: what's your _system_
[05:55]  * unavailable thinks its pimp when you have cube desktop and 3d windows and you place a window halfway between workspaces and then rotate cube
[05:55] <spoon_man> unavailable, it never gets old
[05:55] <fooks> EvilDennisR: no change in the issue
[05:55] <ALPSINC> unavailable: lol very true xP
[05:55] <thinman1189> how dual boot ubuntu and xp if ubuntu (hardy) is already installed?
[05:55] <vozniakBR> hi, someone having graphic troubles with new fgrlx?
[05:55] <EvilDennisR> fooks: rm .ICEauthority
[05:55] <metalpres> i know this isnt an ubuntu problem specifically, but does anyone else have a problem with Lyrc crashing in Amarok?  it hasnt worked for months for me even in fresh installs of ubuntu using the version in the repos
[05:55] <wols> !grub | thinman1189
[05:56] <stevensj2> wols: firefox was working fine on a lan 45 min ago, as was pidgin. both fail to connect now...very puzzling to me
[05:56] <wols> thinman1189: you install windows and then follow this howto
[05:56] <nickrud> the cube is old already, I like the wall with the switcher showing desktop thumbnails. Much more useable
[05:56] <ALPSINC> !grub > ALPSINC
[05:56] <fooks> EvilDennisR: same for that
[05:56] <unavailable> man windows got nothing on ubuntu
[05:56] <fooks> EvilDennisR: i think ill just reinstall hardy
[05:56] <EvilDennisR> fooks: rm .Xauthority ?
[05:56] <killux> tc111: my computer. Whenever I am in firefox, my system will crash randomly. I downgraded to ff2, no help.  I get no errors in any of my logs. Downgrading to gusty fixes the problem
[05:56] <fooks> EvilDennisR: i have no idea why it would do this to itself, i did nothing but update and restart
[05:56] <fooks> EvilDennisR: yeah, even that command
[05:56] <bagelong> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23024/
[05:57] <spoon_man> unavailable, hold down the middle mouse button on an empty space on the desktop, then move around a little
[05:57] <Eleaf> Has anybody here installed the realtime kernel?  whenever I try to install linux-rt, I get 'broken package' errors...  Is this a problem with the repos?
[05:57] <vozniakBR> hi, someone having graphic troubles with new fgrlx?
[05:57] <EvilDennisR> fooks: /sbin/killall5
[05:57] <nickrud> killux that's the new firefox and compiz and flash interaction
[05:57] <spoon_man> it will blow your mind
[05:57] <EvilDennisR> fooks: then run thos ecommands again
[05:57] <unavailable> spoon_man i know
[05:57] <EvilDennisR> fooks: then try and login
[05:57] <killux> nickrud: I didnt even have flash installed
[05:57] <thinman1189> wols: thanks!
[05:57] <unavailable> spoon_man  superkey+ e once
[05:57] <Jester45> unavailable: you should try the circular desktop "cube"  wit 3d windows that is pretty nice
[05:58] <tc111> killux: that's not really a fix, per se... still looking for an answer to my first question...
[05:58] <killux> tc111: what do you want to know about my computer?
[05:58] <nickrud> killux well, I'm having my desktop crash regularly, but I'm assuming it's a flash issue (most every other firefox crash is flash related). When I turn off compiz, I haven't had that kind of crash at all
[05:58] <ALPSINC> what is the easiest MTA to setup?
[05:58] <vozniakBR> someone having graphic corruption with new ATI fgrlx?
[05:58] <ALPSINC> !qmail
[05:58] <Jester45> spoon_man: you wouldnt happen to know how to set that? i seemed to of lost that ability... now i have to us ctrl alt mouse 1
[05:58] <killux> I turned off compiz and I still had the problem nickrud
[05:59] <ALPSINC> !smtpd
[05:59] <ALPSINC> !smtp
[05:59] <nickrud> killux killing the desktop? Or the machine freezing?
[05:59] <philip> anyone can suggest or share ideas about open source retail management system for linux
[05:59] <spoon_man> Jester45, set the middle mouse button action?
[05:59] <philip> specially for ubuntu linux
[05:59] <tc111> killux: 32 or 64-bit, CPU, RAM, age, generic or name-brand, etc...
[05:59] <killux> nickrud: machine freezes, totallly unresponsive to anything
[05:59] <beyta> hye guys... i have a problem.. i want to install a software on my hardy. i use add/remove under application menu.. but when during the download the software, system tell me to insert the disk labels Ubuntu7.10 Gutsy Gibbon... why???
[05:59] <beyta> hye guys... i have a problem.. i want to install a software on my hardy. i use add/remove under application menu.. but when during the download the software, system tell me to insert the disk labels Ubuntu7.10 Gutsy Gibbon... why???
[05:59] <Jester45> spoon_man: yea it doesnt work for me any more but i cant find where it is
[06:00] <spoon_man> Jester45, I don't know, but there is a #compiz channel
[06:00] <nickrud> killux haven't had that happen. But when you're in gutsy, you've changed so many things that you can't say 'it's the kernel cuz it works in gutsy'
[06:00] <Jester45> killux: i have the same problem... but its not just flash for me
[06:00] <killux> tc111: 32-bit, Intel C2D, 2GB RAM, Not even a year old. I built it.
[06:00] <unavailable> jester45 saw it but cant remember where to set it
[06:00] <beyta> hye guys... i have a problem.. i want to install a software on my hardy. i use add/remove under application menu.. but when during the download the software, system tell me to insert the disk labels Ubuntu7.10 Gutsy Gibbon... why???
[06:00] <killux> Jester45: what it it?
[06:00] <Jester45> spoon_man: im to lazy to join a new channel
[06:01] <spoon_man> Jester45 lol, if you're in xchat, you can just click on the name of the channel in the message I sent you
[06:01] <nickrud> !repeat | beyta
[06:01] <mrpockets> Is it wasy to change a computers name?
[06:01] <Utalcn2me> beyta, remove the cdrom line from your sources.list
[06:01] <SitUbuntuSit> beyta, in terminal gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list. then comment out the line for the cd with a #. should be at the top of the file.
[06:01] <killux> nickrud: i know, but there was a thread on ubuntu's forums that described a very similar problem to mine and they said it was ther kernel. There was even a confirmed bug report on launchpad
[06:01] <Ziroday> beyta: you need to remove the cd from your software sources
[06:01] <Jester45> killux: i dont know i dont have the problem when running firefox3 on gentoo.. but im not using compiz or gnome with that
[06:01] <nickrud> beyta so, to answer the question (which you repeated twice while I read it the first time) got to system->admin->software sources , and uncheck the cdrom
[06:01] <bagelong> wols:  I obviously am not doing what you want or giving you what you want.  Any other suggestions?
[06:01] <spoon_man> available, superkey+e is really cool
[06:02] <wols> bagelong: all you can do is use the intel drivers and report the errors it gives
[06:02] <wols> you could also try and search a howto
[06:02] <scunizi> spoon_man, try shift super s
[06:02] <Fungusman> Hey guys m trying to use some unallocated space
[06:02] <Fungusman> I got gparted
[06:03] <wols> however you used the intel driver before so you know how to use it, just that your system then errors
[06:03] <Fungusman> And when I click NEW I get this error
[06:03] <Fungusman> If you want more partitions you should first create an extended partition. Such a partition can contain other partitions. Because an extended partition is also a primary partition it might be necessary to remove a primary partition first.
[06:03] <wols> until you can us tell the error, it's pretty much impossible to help you
[06:03] <nickrud> killux then it would be worth your time to try compiling the gutsy kernel for hardy, see if you can replicate/identify the error. Hard work, but useful ;)
[06:03] <Ziroday> !enter > Fungusman (see PM from ubottu)
[06:03] <tc111> killux: wols yelled at me earlier, but copy this down somewhere you won't lose it (hardcopy)... alt-psc +r, +i, +e, +s, +u, +b. these keypresses should be staggered about 2 - 3 secs. apart, always holding down the alt-psc combo (without the '+' s too). this should get you out of your lockup, flush the cache's and then reboot the machine safely
[06:03] <Jester45> Fungusman: dont use enter so much
[06:03] <Fungusman> Google isn't showing much
[06:03] <bagelong> wols:  you keep telling me that, but I don't think you realize that I don't know how to do what you are saying.  You keep asking for the output of etc/x11/xorg.conf and when I give it to you it seems of no use.
[06:04] <wols> tc111: the problem is no normal guy remebers it when he needs it. it is nice and all but impractical
[06:04] <spoon_man> scunizi, that doesn't seem to do anything, I might have something disabled
[06:04] <Unislash> well, you guys are pretty busy in here eh? :)
[06:04] <spoon_man> no biggie
[06:04] <killux> nickrud: Well I tried compiling the 2.6.25 kernel, but I think I did not do it too well. It was my first time.
[06:04] <Ziroday> Unislash: yes
[06:04] <tc111> killux: see... got me again ;)
[06:04] <Jester45> Fungusman: does that drive have 4 partitions allready?
[06:04] <killux> nickrud: I can't even explain what happened. My destkop was all "funky" and everything was slower.
[06:04] <nickrud> killux the key thing to remember is to compile your motherboard and disk drive and ext3 support into the kernel.
[06:05] <Unislash> hehe, well, if anyone is free, could they help me with installing hardy *from* an external hard drive? thanks :)
[06:05] <wols> bagelong: you gave me glxinfo output. not xorg.conf. and the Xorg.0.log was from when the intel driver never was loaded. but one needs it from when the error occurs. NOT from when the GUI loads fine since it uses VESA drivers
[06:05] <scunizi> spoon_man, maybe .. and it looks better if you have several windows open..
[06:05] <killux> nickrud: huh?
[06:05] <wols> bagelong: and /etc/X11/xorg.conf (note the beginning /) is a file you can see with less or cat
[06:05] <killux> what do you mean compile your motherboard into the kernel?
[06:05] <vozniakBR> someone having graphic corruption with new ATI fgrlx?
[06:05] <wols> killux: nothing can be meant since it's gibberish
[06:06] <tc111> wols, killux: i'm just too old-school... must be my bedtime, i'll leave the helping to the youngsters... ;) nite all!
[06:06] <Unislash> nite
[06:06] <Jester45> Fungusman: a drive can only have 4 primary partitions so you probly need to delete one make a extended then create 2 parttions inside of the extented one
[06:06] <nickrud> killux, motherboard support. Normally the ubuntu kernel puts certain modules into an initial ramdisk, so it can read the disk (that stuff is required for it). You should read that link I gave you above. Compiling the kernel is not trivial, there are certain gotchas.
[06:06] <ybeddyj> after setting directory / deny from all .. how do i enable access to folders below www/html?
[06:07] <Jester45> !repeat | vozniakBR
[06:07] <Unislash> could anyone help me with installing hardy from an external hard drive? :)
[06:07] <vozniakBR> !patience
[06:07] <Unislash> lol, sorry, i am, i am :P
[06:08] <nickrud> killux I used to roll my own kernels, but stopped about 2.6.3 since all kernels are 'development' kernels these days, and it's easier to let the experts patch and maintain it.
[06:08] <bagelong> wols:  I don't think you speak noob.  I have no idea what "less" or "cat" is.
[06:08] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys. My friend is a stubborn mule so i'm talking through him. Sound will not work in flash for him. What are the causes for this?
[06:08] <wols> those are commands
[06:08] <Jester45> !install | Unislash
[06:09] <wols> you used less before, at least I told you to use it before
[06:09] <Jester45> WhoNeedszzz: is his master and PCM volume unmuted and up
[06:09] <WhoNeedszzz> yes
[06:09] <WhoNeedszzz> sound works fine outside of a browser
[06:10] <Jester45> WhoNeedszzz: try installing libflashsupport
[06:10] <WhoNeedszzz> that doesn't work
[06:10] <WhoNeedszzz> libflashsupport is for pulseaudio
[06:11] <WhoNeedszzz> he doesn't use pulseaudio
[06:11] <nickrud> WhoNeedszzz I had that problem for a while, I ran gstreamer-properties and made sure the output was pulseaudio. Not sure if that was the cause, but afterwards I had sound in flash
[06:11] <Jester45> well you didnt say that.. im guessing by you saying flash and no sound
[06:11] <nickrud> WhoNeedszzz then maybe checking for alsa there ....
[06:12] <killux> nickrud: I am just not sure what to do in the configuration part. I don't know exactly what I need
[06:12] <WhoNeedszzz> nickrud: there is no gstreamer-properties
[06:12] <nickrud> WhoNeedszzz not using gnome?
[06:12] <Gralco> how do i edit .bashrc
[06:12] <WhoNeedszzz> nickrud: no, xfce
[06:12] <Unislash> jester: thanks :). i read that page when i first installed ubuntu, but i didn't see that it had more to it :P. cheers :)
[06:12] <bagelong> wols:  thank you for you time.  Sorry we were not a better team.
[06:13] <Jester45> Gralco: open terminal and type gedit ~/.bashrc
[06:13] <Jester45> Gralco: ~ means /home/username and when the name has a . in the front means its hidden
[06:13] <Gralco> Jester45 I'm not sure how to edit it after vi .bashrc
[06:14] <Gralco> once typed in the command line
[06:14] <WhoNeedszzz> Gralco: use mousepad
[06:14] <Jester45> if you dont know how to use vi try some thing simpler like gedit / kate /mousepad or nano
[06:15] <Gralco> oh okay
[06:15] <Gralco> how does vi work
[06:15] <PuPpY> Wierd something on cnn.com is crashing my firefox soon as the page loads
[06:15] <Jester45> with nano is cli use ctrl s to save ctrl x to close
[06:15] <scunizi> Gralco, that's a semesters worth of work to learn
[06:16] <Jester45> Gralco: you should look online for that its a powerfull editor but hard to learn/master
[06:16] <wolfwalker> I have a problem.  All my task bars dissapeared.  I can't access any programs, files, nothing.
[06:16] <Gralco> I will
[06:16] <wolfwalker> How do I get a bar back?
[06:16] <Gralco> thanks guys
[06:16] <killux> nickrud: and what about l-r-m, how do I compile those if the 2.6.25 version isnt even in ubuntu's repos? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomRestrictedModules
[06:16] <Jester45> wolfwalker: press alt + f2 and run gnome-panel
[06:16] <wolfwalker> I was installing mplayer, with the addons that allow DVDs.
[06:17] <Jester45> see if they show up then
[06:17] <wolfwalker> Jester45 while booting or after desktop is loaded?
[06:17] <SrgSantos54> hello u all
[06:17] <killux> wols: maybe you can help?
[06:17] <nickrud> killux there's another problem :) You would have to manually build the various restricted stuff, maybe with envy-gtk (again, pigs fly, envy is nice now ;)
[06:17] <SrgSantos54> i have a question how can i reduce the ping
[06:17] <Jester45> wolfwalker: on desktop
[06:18] <Ziroday> SrgSantos54: move closer to the place your pinging
[06:18] <SrgSantos54> for gaming purpose
[06:18] <killux> ok so what is really restricted? just my video card really
[06:18] <wols> killux: help with what?
[06:18] <killux> wols: nvm
[06:18] <Jester45> SrgSantos54: get a faster connection/ stop downloading stuff/ connect to a server that is closer to you
[06:18] <SrgSantos54> is there any tweaks available for this
[06:18] <nickrud> killux that's about it, maybe a wireless driver if you use wireless
[06:18] <SrgSantos54> mmm
[06:18] <wols> nickrud: doesn't ubuntu come with "source" packages for various restricted drivers?
[06:19] <SrgSantos54> i have a 1.5mb connection
[06:19] <SrgSantos54> it not that bad
[06:19] <killux> nickrud: yeah, I use serialmonkeys drivers
[06:19] <JacobSingh> Is there anyway to force ubuntu to re-read cron.d?
[06:19] <nickrud> wols could be, but he's really looking at compiling a newer/older kernel for testing purposes
[06:19] <Jester45> SrgSantos54: tweaks wont help your ping that much maybe 5 ms
[06:19] <wols> nickrud: so?
[06:19] <killux> wols: ubuntu doesnt have l-r-m for 2.6.25 kernel
[06:19] <Jester45> JacobSingh: restart cron?
[06:20] <wols> apt-get source <nvidia package> for example. that can be build with dpkg-builtpackage and then installed with dpkg -i
[06:20] <killux> thats what i am compiling
[06:20] <nickrud> wols so if you care to explain how to do that to him, that would be great. I stopped paying attention to kernel compilation around the beginning of the 2.6 series
[06:20] <wols> yes he needs to know more than a normal ubuntu user but hten, he is trying to build a kernel
[06:20] <WhoNeedszzz> Any other solutions for sound not working in flash?
[06:20] <wolfwalker> Jester45 Alt+F2 no response
[06:20] <wols> nickrud: how much does ubuntu mangle the kernel with patches?
[06:20] <nickrud> WhoNeedszzz I've seen comments about using aoss with firefox
[06:21] <SrgSantos54> mmmm
[06:21] <WhoNeedszzz> nickrud: that didn't work
[06:21] <Jester45> WhoNeedszzz: did you restart firefox after running those commands
[06:21] <no_spoon> Hey all
[06:21] <Eleaf> WhoNeedszzz, did you install the libflash support thing?
[06:21] <nickrud> wols I haven't looked. But, if they do as much as debian did a while back, a _lot_
[06:21] <WhoNeedszzz> Jester45: yes
[06:21] <Eleaf> which is necesarry to get sound right when using pulse audio
[06:21] <wols> killux: get kernel sources for gutsy
[06:21] <WhoNeedszzz> Eleaf: talked about that already
[06:21] <Eleaf> alright
[06:21] <wols> nickrud: debian doesn't do a lot actually :) but usually desktop distros are worse there
[06:21]  * nickrud thinks about missing blobs, and laughs
[06:21] <killux> wols: from kernel.org, git, or a repo?
[06:22] <wols> killux: unpack them and copy /boot/config-<your current kernel version> to newkernelsourcedir/config
[06:22] <JacobSingh> Jester45: Didn't seem to work for me...
[06:22] <wols> killux: that is up to you. with kernel.org and git you miss the ubuntu patches however
[06:22] <wols> killux: but as a kernel, all 3 will work
[06:22] <JacobSingh> Jester45: but if I edit the file, and save it
[06:23] <Jester45> wolfwalker: change your session in gdm to defualt gnome one
[06:23] <JacobSingh> /var/log/syslog tells me it is reloaded
[06:23] <JacobSingh> and indeed, it starts working...
[06:23] <JacobSingh> weird, huh?
[06:23] <wols> killux: then inside the sourcedir run make oldconfig and answer those questions
[06:23] <killux> wols: can you download ubuntu's patches and then patch the vanillia kernel?
[06:23] <wolfwalker> Jester45 How do I do that?
[06:23] <wolfwalker> I can't even log out
[06:23] <wols> then instakk kernel-package and use it to compile a kernel and kernel headers
[06:23] <killux> wols: or do I even really need their patches?
[06:23] <Jester45> wolfwalker: when you login after a reboot click session and click gnome
[06:24] <draven> i'm having issues mounting/playing purchased dvds i've found several resources and have installed libdvdcss but I'm still having no luck
[06:24] <wols> killux: you can, BUT: you must then fix the patches to make the apply cleanly. not doable unless you are a kernel hacker. from ubuntu's 2.6.24 to current 2.6.25 stuff changed so the ubuntu patches to 2.6.24 won't apply cleanly most likely
[06:24] <nickrud> draven try installing and using vlc
[06:24] <Jester45> wolfwalker: but try alt_f2 a few more times to make sure it show ip
[06:24] <Jester45> up
[06:24] <Jester45> wolfwalker: does it show up at all?
[06:24] <wols> killux: as I said, you don't really NEED them but some things might not work then as expected. you can certainly try a vanilla kernel source
[06:24] <nickrud> draven if it fails, run vlc from inside a terminal, and check the error messages
[06:25] <WhoNeedszzz> anything else?
[06:25] <nickrud> #xubuntu (me runs ;)
[06:25] <killux> wols: no, I am talking about downloading gusty kernel version (the vanilla flavor) and then applying gusty's patches
[06:25] <draven> nickrud, ok if it works is there anything further i need to do to get xine working?
[06:25] <killux> or will that not work with hardy?
[06:25] <Bennie> Hello, how do I make ubuntu autologin?
[06:25] <trevheg> the wireless card page said that to get my particular wireless card to work, I need to blacklist a driver before installing the card. I already had the card installed. Will a system restart do the trick, or do I need to do something else?
[06:26] <wols> killux: imho it's a judgement call to makie here
[06:26] <nickrud> draven possibly the w32codecs from medibuntu
[06:26] <wols> killux: if you download gutsy kernel sources the patches for it are already applied and ready made
[06:26] <scunizi> draven, you could try gxine
[06:26] <WhoNeedszzz> draven: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:26] <wolfwalker> Jester45 nothing at all.
[06:26] <wolfwalker> Jester45 I log in, then I get the background and....... nothing else.
[06:26] <draven> nickrud, i'm running a an amd64 version do i want the 64 or the 32 package of codecs?
[06:26] <nickrud> WhoNeedszzz xine still uses w32codescs ?
[06:26] <nickrud> draven 64
[06:27] <wols> killux: put a deb-src line for gutsy in your sources.list and apt-get update. now you can get gutsy kernel sources with apt-get source
[06:27] <trevheg> can I activate the blacklist of a driver by restarting my computer?
[06:27] <nickrud> trevheg if you've just blacklisted it, yes
[06:27] <killux> wols: ok thats what I was going to ask. That will be compatible?
[06:27] <wols> !blacklist > trevheg
[06:27] <wols> killux: it _should_. I won't give any guarantees of course
[06:27] <Felonious> lol what do I do if ut2004 install is asking me to switch disks but ubuntu wont let me take the drive out because it says an app is preventing me from unmounting it?
[06:27] <killux> wols: ok
[06:27] <draven> is this the right version of libdvdread? Using libdvdcss version 1.2.9 for DVD access
[06:28] <trevheg> nickrud, will restarting have the same effect as blacklisting the driver before I installed the hardware?
[06:28] <nickrud> killux I'll tell you one thing: if you work at this, you will learn a lot about how linux works
[06:28] <Ne0_WizArd> is there any way windos virus can affect my ubuntu
[06:28] <WhoNeedszzz> draven, install libdvdcss2, libdvdcss2-dev, libdvdread3, libdvdread-dev
[06:28] <Ne0_WizArd> windows
[06:28] <wols> killux: can't you just install a gutsy kernel or are there dependency problems then?
[06:28] <WhoNeedszzz> draven: what exactly is your problem?
[06:28] <killux> nickrud: i hope
[06:28] <nickrud> trevheg if you blacklisted, then rebooted the blacklist is in effect (if it was applied correctly)
[06:28] <scunizi> Felonious, copy  all the stuff from the disks to a separate directory then run the install from there.
[06:28] <nickrud> killux no hope, just sweat :)
[06:28] <killux> wols: I don't know. I havent tried.
[06:28] <trevheg> nickrud, thanks
[06:28] <draven> WhoNeedszzz, encrypted dvds won't mount
[06:28] <Felonious> damn thats going to require alot of space
[06:29] <wols> killux: try. it's the easiest way to test now. least work
[06:29] <killux> wols: yeah, I just have to install hardy lol
[06:29] <Ne0_WizArd> can linux get infected with a virus
[06:29] <Ne0_WizArd> ?!?
[06:29] <wols> killux: ignore any errors wrt your video card and wlan of course
[06:29] <killux> yeah
[06:29] <wols> killux: that can always be fixed later
[06:29] <nickrud> Felonious you doing this in wine?
[06:29] <trevheg> how can I tell which driver a particular piece of hardware is using?
[06:29] <scunizi> Felonious, the other way is to go to "my computer" and right mouse click the drive and unmount it.  it will then eject.
[06:29] <wols> trevheg: dmesg and experience
[06:30] <Metatron^> there are virii for linux yes
[06:30] <Bennie> how do I autologin in ubuntu?
[06:30] <wols> trevheg: which hardware exactly?
[06:30] <Felonious> hmm
[06:30] <killux> one other question jsut about ubuntu's repos, if I enable I gusty repo in hardy, how will hardy hangle that. Like what will it update to, the hardy repos right?
[06:30] <trevheg> a pci wireless card
[06:30] <killux> wols ^
[06:30] <scunizi> Bennie, you don't want to .. you loose all your security.
[06:30] <Bennie> scunizi: how?
[06:30] <Bennie> I know I want it
[06:30] <afallenhope> anyone know why my sound in TOTEM is so low when watchin movies>?
[06:30] <nickrud> Bennie install gdmsetup, and enable it on the security tab (good place for it)
[06:30] <WhoNeedszzz> draven: install the things i said, it should work after that
[06:31] <wols> killux: it will use the newest package versions available which means hardy. you can just download the kernel from packages.ubuntu.com for gutsy and install with dpkg -i
[06:31] <draven> WhoNeedszzz, i installed the list, and it's a no go
[06:31] <WhoNeedszzz> afallenhope: don't use totem, use vlc
[06:31] <killux> wols: yeah
[06:31] <Bennie> nickrud: what gdmsetup? is it for KDE?
[06:31] <afallenhope> VLC is low too
[06:31] <killux> I am going to go and try that now
[06:31] <killux> thanks guys
[06:31] <nickrud> Bennie no, for gdm . If you're doing it for kdm, I don't know, but #kubuntu will
[06:31] <nickrud> enjoy killux
[06:31] <wolfwalker> Jester45 Okay I got a file browser up by inserting a CD.  Now where can I go to get to the command to get a terminal window?
[06:32] <WhoNeedszzz> afallenhope: oh. some dvds have low sound.
[06:32] <Bennie> nickrud: thanks
[06:32] <WhoNeedszzz> draven: try manually mounting them
[06:33]  * nickrud is waiting, without holding his breath, for the new kde4 release.
[06:33] <cronolink> I'm using an Asus V770Ti graphics card, as far as I can find its built on the Geforce2 chipset, so I'm using nVidia Legacy drivers, but even so I can't get resolution higher than 800x600 in Ubuntu. How do I fix that?
[06:33] <killux> nickrud: isnt it already released?
[06:33] <draven> WhoNeedszzz, just tried that, in fstab i only see a cdrom entry
[06:33] <jackal666> Hi. How do I allow one user to be able to access only the folders I name and be restricted from reading/writting to anything else ?
[06:34] <nickrud> killux I'm talking about the next, bug fix release. It's due soon, some kubuntu guys are building it (or at least the beta)
[06:34] <wols> jackal666: that's default pretty much
[06:34] <WhoNeedszzz> draven: fstab is a config file for auto-mounting. it won't show anything. type mount
[06:34] <jackal666> a normal user can still read /etc/passwd
[06:35] <nickrud> jackal666 that doesn't hurt anything ...
[06:35] <jackal666> doesn't matter, I still don't want to let the user See anything but a couple of folders
[06:35] <Commie_Jebus> :O my / has over nine thousand files!
[06:35] <jackal666> not only home
[06:35] <spoon_man> over 9000, you say?
[06:36] <Commie_Jebus> yes
[06:36] <spoon_man> you should check your power level
[06:36] <Commie_Jebus> k
[06:36]  * Kappaccino hands spoon_man a scouter.
[06:36] <killux> wols: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=gutsy&arch=i386&searchon=names&keywords=kernel
[06:36] <killux> whats the difference between the first 2 pacakges, what does generic mean?
[06:37] <WhoNeedszzz> lolz @ spoon_man
[06:37] <draven> WhoNeedszzz, no medium found
[06:37] <Felonious> i cannot unmount it... ubuntu won't let me
[06:37] <wolfwalker> Say, Jester45 seems to have gone off for a bit.  Can someone help me?  I don't have any task bars at all.  No way to access applications, file browser, nothing.  Just the background and a cursor.  Even Alt+F2 doesn't do anything.
[06:37] <tannji> has there been a fix found for Mplayer in 8.04 yet?
[06:37] <wolfwalker> I finally got a file browser by inserting a CD.  Can someone tell me what to do to get to a terminal window?
[06:37] <WhoNeedszzz> draven: pastebin the results of mount
[06:38] <cronolink> =/ How do I make my resolution go higher than 800x600?
[06:38] <maw_> in top(1)... what is the format of the TIME+ column? hours,mins,secs?
[06:38] <wolfwalker> tannji MPlayer?!!  That's what I was installing when this happened!
[06:38] <scunizi> wolfwalker, ctrl+alt+f2.. to get back to gui ctrl+alt+f7
[06:38] <WhoNeedszzz> cronolink: that depends on your video card and driver
[06:38] <WhoNeedszzz> cronolink: and monitor
[06:38] <draven> http://pastebin.com/m62865600
[06:39] <cronolink> Asus V7700Ti (made on GeForce2 chipset as far as I can find out, so nVidia Legacy driver is what I'm using)
[06:39] <cronolink> Sony Trinitron monitor really, old dunno model number on it past that
[06:39] <wolfwalker> Okay, got to a terminal.  Thanks.  Now how do I get my task bars back?
[06:40] <ledenby> i have a question :)   can i upgrade 7.1 to hardy with an 8.04 install disk.....or do i have to start all over fresh
[06:40] <tannji> I just installed Ubuntu yesterday, I have no sound, media players error, and I think I have a problem with either mounting or permissions on my cd drives  = )
[06:40] <WhoNeedszzz> draven: that is incorrect usage of mount. just type mount for me and pastebin those results
[06:40] <timboy> my laptop doesn't see any updates? I'm running kernel version 2.6.24-16-generic and I don't see the version 19
[06:40] <spoon_man> !upgrade | ledenby
[06:40] <timboy> Hardy
[06:40] <nickrud> !hardysources | timboy (make sure you have -updates checked)
[06:41] <ledenby> tnx ubootu
[06:41] <wolfwalker> scunizi I have a terminal window.  Now how do I get taskbars back?
[06:41] <nickrud> timboy and -security
[06:41] <draven> WhoNeedszzz, http://pastebin.com/m61681a52
[06:41] <poon> doeds anyone have experience with the "screen" program?
[06:41] <afallenhope> WhoNeedszzz, same thing.. it's the audio quality is low
[06:41] <wols> killux: wrong packages
[06:41] <wols> killux: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=gutsy&section=all&arch=i386&searchon=names&keywords=linux-image
[06:41] <scunizi> wolfwalker, that I don't know.. someone else will have to guide you there.
[06:41] <wolfwalker> Jester45 said something about running something once I got to a terminal, but I forget what and it already went out the top of the window.
[06:41] <timboy> nickrud, fixed it. weird that it was unchecked...
[06:41] <WhoNeedszzz> afallenhope: like i said, a lot of dvds just have low sound
[06:42] <WhoNeedszzz> afallenhope: it is a result from compression
[06:42] <poon> >.>
[06:42] <wols> killux: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic is what you want
[06:42] <wolfwalker> Something about gnome config or something
[06:42] <amrik> Hey I would like to convert a dvd to h264. what is the best software package for this on ubuntu?
[06:42] <orgthingy> any recommended "wireless software" ?
[06:42] <afallenhope> WhoNeedszzz, no it's not the compression. I looked at it and it sounds louder on my friend's Windows box.
[06:42] <orgthingy> like, a software to connect to a wireless network
[06:42] <poon> Does anyone know anything about 'screen' that could lend me some assistance?
[06:43] <tannji> What sound card is best supported in Linux?  I have a X-Gamer, and it sucked in XP, and is a non-factor in Ubuntu
[06:43] <afallenhope> orgthingy, just use the network manager
[06:43] <afallenhope> tannji, just get a nvdia
[06:43] <afallenhope> :p
[06:43] <tannji> lol, nvidia soundcard?
[06:43] <ajhtiredwolf> Hey, I just bought the 8800GT nvidia card. I was previous running onboard intel graphics card, i am in the live cd right now, before i boot into the installtion waht should i do to change drivers and cards?
[06:43] <tannji> nvidia doesnt make one.... anymore
[06:44] <wolfwalker> Eh forget it.  I'll just reinstall Ubuntu.
[06:44] <wolfwalker> Again
[06:44] <orgthingy> afallenhope: i dislike it
[06:44] <wolfwalker> Does anyone know what it is about MPlayer that made this happen?
[06:44] <afallenhope> orgthingy, then I don't know. pretty much have to deal with it
[06:44] <orgthingy> oh :(
[06:44] <spoon_man> tannij, the sound blaster cards are pretty well supported -- i have an Audigy 2 that works fine; it may take some tweaking to get it just right, though
[06:44] <tannji> I seem to find from google that 8.04 broke Mplayer... not the other way around
[06:45] <wolfwalker> lol @ tannji
[06:45] <tannji> hmm.. guess I need to grab an Audigy, or wait for Auzentec
[06:46] <orgthingy> in ath0 properties, "roaming" thingy is enabled, how can i disable it?
[06:46] <orgthingy> in Terminal
[06:46] <rubydiamond> What is the major difference between IE6 on Ubuntu and IE6 on windows?
[06:46] <orgthingy> nothing
[06:46] <rubydiamond> is it recommended to test on it?
[06:46] <orgthingy> same
[06:46] <wolfwalker> tannji All I know is I installed MPlayer, reached for dvd support, and lost my taskbars.  All of them.
[06:46] <orgthingy> hell with IE man
[06:46] <tannji> ouch
[06:46] <rubydiamond> orgthingy, I need to test my website on it
[06:46] <rubydiamond> can I install IE7 on ubuntu?
[06:46] <Hoenikker> i'm unable to install libpng-dev on my machine, i get "unmet dependencies: libpng12-dev: Depends: libpng12-0 (= 1.2.15~beta5-3) but 1.2.24-0ubuntu1~fta1" on my 8.04, how do i fix that?
[06:47] <wolfwalker> rubydiamond Yes
[06:47] <rubydiamond> wolfwalker, link plz
[06:47] <orgthingy> rubydiamond: hmmm, never tested my site on it
[06:47] <orgthingy> never needed it
[06:47] <wolfwalker> rubydiamond Retrieving as fast as my decoy laptop (the only one I'll let on the net) will do it.
[06:47] <orgthingy> my site is for smart people who use Opera or FF
[06:48] <Metatron_> best utility to read/write ext3 from win?
[06:48] <tstiffler88> hello, I want to upgrade my compiz-fusion on ubuntu hardy heron, could someone assist please?
[06:48] <orgthingy> in ath0 properties, "roaming" thingy is enabled, how can i disable it?
[06:48] <vozniakBR> IE is for fools
[06:48] <Hoenikker> i pitty the fool
[06:48] <orgthingy> People these days use other browsers
[06:48] <wolfwalker> rubydiamond Here:  http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-internet-explorer-on-ubuntu8.04
[06:49] <orgthingy> mac: Safari. FF or opera
[06:49] <orgthingy> Windows: IE, Opera, FF, netscape..etc
[06:49] <Hoenikker> FF FTW.
[06:49] <narendrakumar> hi
[06:49] <orgthingy> Linux: FF and Opera
[06:49] <tannji> Under drive settings for my optical drives, mount point, file system, and mount options are all blank, is this proper, or is it not set up?
[06:50] <vozniakBR> orgthingy: you forgot Konqueror
[06:50] <tstiffler88> anyone know how to upgrade compiz-fusion to the latest version?
[06:52] <orgthingy> and how can i change this orange-brown thingy ?
[06:53] <jlmeza> hello
[06:53] <Jester45> hello
[06:53] <scunizi> !hi
[06:54] <jlmeza> I world
[06:54] <Jester45> orgthingy: what is this "thingy"
[06:54] <ajhtiredwolf> Hey, I just bought the 8800GT nvidia card. I was previous running onboard intel graphics card, i am in the live cd right now, before i boot into the installtion waht should i do to change drivers and cards?
[06:54] <Jester45> tstiffler88: apt-get update && apt-get update
[06:54] <Jester45> oops
[06:54] <Jester45> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[06:54] <tstiffler88> thanks
[06:54] <orgthingy> thingy = thing
[06:55] <tstiffler88> how do I check and see now if it's upgraded?
[06:55] <DrLame> What's the command to see all the processes running in the terminal?
[06:55] <zaapiel> top
[06:55] <rubydiamond> wolfwalker: I have ubuntu 7.10
[06:55] <Utalcn2me> orgthingy, if you shutdown, the brown will go away :P
[06:55] <jlmeza> ps -A
[06:56] <orgthingy> oh
[06:56] <orgthingy> wait
[06:56] <orgthingy> gnome-look has it
[06:56] <orgthingy> yaay
[06:56] <DrLame> ty jlmeza
[06:56] <jlmeza> ps -afx | grep
[06:57] <spoon_man> ajhtiredwolf, as long as the new card is installed, the ubuntu installer should take care of your general needs; you just need to enable hardware acceleration once ubuntu is installed
[06:57] <dmartinezc> help please, i can't read any cd or dvd becouse an input/output error...........
[06:57] <amrik> Hey I would like to convert a dvd to h264. what is the best software package for this on ubuntu?
[06:57] <ajhtiredwolf> spoon_man: I dont need to change anything before booting into ubuntu? even though  iwas using a different card with different drivers?
[06:57] <dmartinezc> any idea???
[06:58] <spoon_man> ajhtiredwolf, were you using ubuntu with the old card?
[06:58] <lvlefisto> Why doesn't totem doesn't display subtitles of my movie DVD?
[06:58] <ajhtiredwolf> spoon_man: yeah, same os and everything, just turned it off, installed new card. boot into live cd
[06:58] <jlmeza> español: revizar df
[06:58] <orgthingy> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=79665  <<<< how can i install this?
[06:59] <zaapiel> hey!
[06:59] <orgthingy> hey zaapiel
[06:59] <zaapiel> where is a list of repos i can use?
[06:59] <spoon_man> ajhtiredwolf, I believe that ubuntu will revert to a generic driver, then it should detect the updates you need once you're at the desktop
[06:59] <scunizi> zaapiel, they are already installed by default.
[06:59] <zaapiel> o ok
[06:59] <ajhtiredwolf> spoon_man: il try it, hopefully it doenst die :P
[06:59] <Felonious> download the zip and drag it to the appearance window
[07:00] <obf213> hmm rhythmbox seems to have removed smart playlists.....
[07:00] <Gralco> why is there still a beta page for hardy heron
[07:00] <Felonious> orgthingy
[07:00] <Metatron_> zaapiel: in synaptic look in the repository section, enable the extra ones you like
[07:00] <orgthingy> yes?
[07:00] <orgthingy> ah, ok
[07:00] <zaapiel> ok
[07:01] <zsw> 你好
[07:01] <Utalcn2me> orgthingy, open system/preference/appearance and drag the tgz into the window
[07:01] <zsw> 是马
[07:01] <scunizi> !ja | zsw
[07:01] <Utalcn2me> i think :P
[07:01] <zsw> 说什么呢
[07:01] <zaapiel> kanji!
[07:01] <qfour20> I'm having trouble updating an older ubuntu install to Gutsy (so I can upgrade him to 8.04lts).  I get an error message saying to file a bug for the update and mentions some log files.
[07:01] <orgthingy> ok, thanks
[07:02] <boaz> Can someone recommend a link explaining in detail how to set up a network using only the command console and editing files.
[07:02] <zsw> icomefromchina
[07:02] <vozniakBR> someone having graphic corruption with new ATI fgrlx?
[07:02] <scunizi> qfour20, you might try to put his /home in a separate partition and install fresh.
[07:02] <spoon_man> !cn | zsw
[07:02] <zsw> whereareyou
[07:03] <mrynit> my fan wont stop and it is blowing cold air. the laptop is not hot. i have a dell inspiron 1420n 8.04
[07:03] <zsw> how talktohe
[07:03] <WhoNeedszzz> mrynit: that last part is your problem :D
[07:03] <Metatron_> boaz: if you just want to configure the ethernet connection try ipconfig --help and route --help  the first can set your eth's ip and netmask the second the gateway
[07:03] <Jester45> vozniakBR: search for a bug and if you cant find one that matches your problem file one
[07:03] <zsw> haodoit
[07:03] <qfour20> scunizi: i guess i should, but i *just* got my mythbackend working right again.  :-(
[07:03] <orgthingy> wow, it works
[07:03] <orgthingy> :D
[07:04] <mrynit> WhoNeedszzz, ? it came with ubuntu on it from dell
[07:04] <lvlefisto> zsw: /join #ubuntu-cn
[07:04] <Utalcn2me> qfour20, i find it's better to make the install as clean as possible since you are actually updating every program on your pc, so the old configuration files may cause problems along the way.  i find if i delete all the hidden files from the previous version that i possibly can helps.
[07:04] <zaapiel> will debian packages work on ubuntu?
[07:04] <vozniakBR> Jester45: i'am searching few days
[07:04] <spoon_man> zaapiel: yes
[07:04] <WhoNeedszzz> mrynit: ok. and?
[07:04] <zsw> i dontno
[07:04] <zaapiel> seems an outdated version of vegastrike is in ubuntu's repo
[07:04] <zsw> china
[07:05] <spoon_man> zounds!
[07:05] <mrynit> WhoNeedszzz> mrynit: that last part is your problem :D wtf you talking about
[07:05] <zsw> chinese
[07:05] <Hoenikker> what would be a reasonable interval to ask my question again without being annoying
[07:05] <zaapiel> china!
[07:05] <boaz> Metatron, thanks.
[07:05] <zaapiel> general tso's chicken ftw
[07:05] <WhoNeedszzz> mrynit: DELL!
[07:05] <zsw> yee
[07:05] <mrynit> ...
[07:05] <Unislash> hey again
[07:06] <WhoNeedszzz> mrynit: dell is a piece of **** company that sells piece of **** hardware
[07:06] <zsw> how do with chinese for you
[07:06] <orgthingy> lol
[07:06] <spoon_man> !cn | zsw
[07:06] <orgthingy> i like the way Ubuntu community help me using Linux Mint
[07:06] <spoon_man> !mint | orgthingy
[07:06] <Jester45> Hoenikker: when ever a lot of people start talking would be ok. not very usefull to ask a dead room, or every 2 seconds
[07:07] <databridge> good morning, i had created a raid 1 with a cheap raid controller from silicon, then i changed the controller to promise and make new partitions, there are 3 partitions the first both are mounted ok, but then third says me unknown filesystem silicon_raid_member but when i specify the filesystem everything works. ive deletet all partitions and the silicon raid controller is no more but it keep on saying this
[07:07] <orgthingy> yea yea
[07:07] <zaapiel> ok i downloaded a debian deb
[07:07] <zaapiel> how do i install it?
[07:07] <orgthingy> Everything u guys say work for me
[07:07] <spoon_man> zaapiel, double-click on it
[07:07] <orgthingy> Linux Mint = better version of Ubuntu
[07:07] <zaapiel> man
[07:07] <zaapiel> everything just works on ubuntu
[07:07] <zaapiel> how the hell they pull that off
[07:08] <Jester45> orgthingy: maybe for you but not everyone
[07:08] <Unislash> so... i can't successfully shut down my ubuntu (hardy). Help would be appreciated :)
[07:08] <spoon_man> ubuntu is based around deb files :)
[07:08] <spoon_man> ubuntu is a derivative of debian
[07:08] <Jester45> zaapiel: what you just did is  = to double clicking a windows installer
[07:09] <zaapiel> yeah but linux usually involves a bunch of configing
[07:09] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, did you do an update or a fresh install
[07:09] <zaapiel> its nice for stuff to just work
[07:09] <mrynit> the problem started a few days ago. there is nothing in the BIOS for fan settings. I have gone through several software updates for various applications. i don't know if that could cause it. are there some sorta fan/temp control apps in Ubuntu that could help me regulate the fan?
[07:09] <Unislash> update
[07:09] <orgthingy> Jester45: yes, everyone has his needs
[07:09] <Bennie> I made aptitude update, then apt-get install wine. It says package not found, how come's that???
[07:09] <spoon_man> zaapiel, pretty much all the packages you get from apt are actually in .deb form
[07:09] <spoon_man> zaapiel, when your sources.list is pointed at the default URLs, natch
[07:10] <Jester45> zaapiel: maybe because the devs did a lot of good configuring them selfves but sometimes its hard to do something most people dont do (no gnome or kde)
[07:10] <zaapiel> say i wanted to install it from a commmand line, how does one do that?
[07:10] <zaapiel> dpkg?
[07:11] <Unislash> Utalcn2me, i did an update from gutsy
[07:11] <Utalcn2me> Bennie, it may be in the universal repository, and possibly you don't have it acivated
[07:11] <Jester45> Bennie: you should use aptitude or apt-get not both, it can cause problems switching between to the 2
[07:11] <vozniakBR> every time when i play game with low res the gnome panel icons get scrambled, how restore icons position?
[07:11] <spoon_man> zaapiel, I reckon so
[07:11] <yarrr> Hello
[07:12] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, you might try deleting the . files in your home directory and let them recreate themselves, like the .gconf 's and the .gnome2's
[07:12] <WhoNeedszzz> Bennie: get the latest repo from winehq
[07:13] <Bennie> Jester45: aptitude update and apt-get update is the same operation, no?
[07:13] <Unislash> Utalcn2me, once i delete them, what do i do to have them recreate themselves?
[07:13] <Bennie> WhoNeedszzz: what? btw package fluxbox not found also
[07:13] <Kartagis> Unislash: log into gnome
[07:14] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, they will recreate on startup... i would keep your mail folder though, whatever mail progrem you use - don't want to loose that :P
[07:14] <WhoNeedszzz> Bennie: maybe your repo sources aren't all enabled
[07:14] <dmartinezc> i cant read cds becouse an input/output error, any ideas???
[07:14] <Unislash> Kartagis: like... gnome the filesystem browser or what? :)
[07:14] <Jester45> Bennie: they do the same thing but aptitude uses an extented database of infomation that apt-get doesnt uses so installing programs with both may lead to problems. im just giving you advice you can use both if you want its completly up to you
[07:14] <nooo> Hello~
[07:15] <nooo> Is anybody here using Compiz-Fusion? I don't know how to open the plugins manager or change settings with it
[07:15] <spoon_man> !hi | nooo
[07:15] <Kartagis> Unislash: gnome the window manager
[07:15] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, so if you have .mozilla-thunderbird, i would keep that so you don't wipe your emails - other than data, it will recreate the config files for hardy
[07:15] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: by home directory, you mean /home/<myusername>, correct? (not just /home, because i only see 2 folders there :P)
[07:16] <Ne0_WizArd> how do i restore some files i have in the bin
[07:16] <Unislash> Kartagis: done
[07:17] <Jester45> Ne0_WizArd: drag the files out?
[07:17] <ChaosParser> nooo: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:17] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, yes, the files in your session, the files in your gnome home folder - control-H will unhide the hidden folders and files.
[07:17] <Ne0_WizArd> it gives me a error
[07:18] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: aha, there we go
[07:18] <Unislash> Kartagis: what would you have me do? :)
[07:18] <_julian> hi all
[07:18] <Ne0_WizArd> i am trying to install kiba dock
[07:18] <Ne0_WizArd> can u help me
[07:18] <_julian> which tool is used in hardy to setup network interfaces? - gnome-nettool only shows me the interface status but no edit options?!
[07:19] <Kartagis> Unislash: just follow Utalcn2me
[07:19] <WhoNeedszzz> Is the iso for Linux Mint a liveCD?
[07:19] <Kartagis> !help | Ne0_WizArd
[07:19] <joshual> hi, is there any patch or anything available to make the regular gnome menu (Applications Places System) have a recently used apps, or favorites apps?
[07:19] <Kartagis> !anyone | Ne0_WizArd
[07:20] <_julian> or does gnome-nettool require additional tools to work?
[07:20] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: thanks, i'll try restarting now
[07:20] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, i find the easiest way for me to clean up is to go to a terminal and rm -r .a* if i want to remove all the hidden folders that start with a, then .b etc....
[07:20] <Ne0_WizArd> can someone help me install kiba dock
[07:23] <cggabriel> how can i stop OpenOffice.org 2.4 Document Recovery on ubuntu 8.04
[07:24] <GNUtoo> hello, why can't i open or show the infos of the my luks partition that i created from gentoo in ubuntu?
[07:24] <GNUtoo> it's from the hardy 8.04 livecd
[07:24] <cggabriel> stop OpenOffice.org 2.4 Document Recovery on ubuntu 8.04
[07:24] <WhoNeedszzz> Ne0_WizArd: http://www.kiba-dock.org/. go to Wiki
[07:25] <Jester45> GNUtoo: luks?
[07:25] <leeray> ?
[07:25] <GNUtoo> cggabriel, i don't remember well the exact location but it's in .ooo-2.0/ somewhere
[07:26] <leeray> 这是什么东东？
[07:26] <GNUtoo> Jester45, encryption...linux unified key setup
[07:26] <cggabriel> repeat that for me again
[07:26] <cggabriel> i have no idea, i'm a newbe men
[07:26] <GNUtoo> cggabriel, ok i'll look for it for you
[07:26] <Utalcn2me> cggabriel, if you delete your .openoffece.org folder, it will go away
[07:27] <Werdna> hello. I've got sound going fine, but the volume is practically zero. I can hear things, but only just over my computer fan.
[07:27] <Jester45> GNUtoo:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=404346 its for a older version but might work for you
[07:27] <Mr_Bad_News> hi i have a usb mp3 player and when i plug it in it mounts it but as read only so i cant put songs on it or take them off how do i get it to mount as read write?
[07:27] <Mr_Bad_News> /dev/sda on /media/disk type vfat (ro,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,usefree)
[07:27] <Mr_Bad_News> im pretty sure thats it
[07:28] <WhoNeedszzz> Unislash: you realize if you delete . files you can delete important data right?
[07:28] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: maybe you (or anyone :) ) can help me in my end-game. I'm aiming to nuke my current ubuntu (while keeping the partition) and install a fresh copy of ubuntu hardy on the partition. The problem is, i can't burn cds and don't have a big ol' thumb drive
[07:28] <Mr_Bad_News> anyone?
[07:29] <yarrr> I want to dual boot a system without doing it within windows, but windows has 2 partitions already. What's a good way to get linux in on 1 or 2 partitions (do you need a separate partition for bootloaders or swap?)
[07:29] <Unislash> whoneedszzz: yea, i figured. but that's ok :). read my last message for my reasoning
[07:29] <GNUtoo> Jester45, thanks a lot
[07:29] <Mr_Bad_News> you could always get vmware or virtual box yarrr
[07:29] <Jester45> Mr_Bad_News: sudo umount /media/disk       sudo mount -o rw -t vfat /dev/sda /media/disk
[07:30] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, do you have your /, and /home/ in separate partitions?
[07:30] <cggabriel> that file .openoffece.org is not on my system
[07:30] <GNUtoo> cggabriel, i don't remember what files to delete...mabe ask in the openoffice channel
[07:30] <Unislash> no.
[07:30] <cggabriel> wich one is the channel?
[07:30] <Mr_Bad_News> still the same Jester45
[07:30] <Unislash> same partition--i'm currently dual booting with windows in one partition and ubuntu in another
[07:31] <Utalcn2me> cggabriel, i .openoffice.org maybe - you using hardy?? it's a hidden folder y'know :P
[07:31] <Jester45> yarrr: linux only needs 1 partition and can replace the defualt bootloader with grub, grub can boot linux and windows (along with a lot of other ones)
[07:31] <yarrr> Jester45: does grub need it's own partition?
[07:31] <Mr_Bad_News> johnny@boxnet:~$  sudo mount -o rw -t vfat /dev/sda /media/disk mount: mount point /media/disk does not exist
[07:32] <Jester45> yarrr: no you can write it to the MBR or into linux's partition
[07:32] <Kartagis> heh, I just realized that pidgin's systray icon gets smaller if i change the appearance through the appearance preferences
[07:32] <tony403> anyone know if walmart sells PC power cables?
[07:32] <blackvd> Anyone else having the problem with firefox 3 turning into just a back button when visiting certian webpages or searching certain words in yahoo or google? I could show a picture of what i mean if need be. thanks.
[07:32] <Jester45> Mr_Bad_News: sudo mkdir /media/disk then the mount command
[07:32] <Mr_Bad_News> mount: block device /dev/sda is write-protected, mounting read-only
[07:33] <Mr_Bad_News> its already there Jester45
[07:33] <Mr_Bad_News> on my other laptop i just had to plug it in
[07:33] <spoon_man> yarrr, have you looked at ntfsprogs?
[07:33] <tony403> anyone here?
[07:33] <Jester45> Mr_Bad_News: did you umount it
[07:33] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, that is a rough tough lesson to learn, .. i split my / and /home/ partition up just because of that - cus i never knew when i would get a wild hare up there and want to install another distro - it's easy to do if you keep your home separate
[07:33] <Mr_Bad_News> yea
[07:33] <Jester45> tony403: no we are not here
[07:34] <spoon_man> yarrr, I assume you mean that all available space is being used by windows partitions?
[07:34] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: that's a good point.... luckily, i have nothing in my /home/ that i wish to keep :)
[07:34] <Flynsarmy> Is there a way to allow connections from multiple IP's in the 1 rule with firebug?
[07:34] <_julian> no ideas what I need to get the config button in gnome-nettool back?
[07:34] <yarrr> spoon_wan: I'm an idiot savant, I used Gparted to give me a swap partition and another 110 gig partition for linux, and the rest is windows vista and a recovery console (I'm a bit weary of removing that even though I've made recovery dvd's from it
[07:34] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: i just wish to keep the partition so i don't need to re-partition my hard drive when re-installing the fresh ubuntu hardy
[07:35] <Mr_Bad_News> any other ideas Jester45 ?
[07:35] <spoon_man> yarrr, then it sounds like all you need to do is install ubuntu
[07:35] <Jester45> yarrr: linux doesnt need a swap partition you can use a file like windows does you just have to do it your self its 3 simple commands
[07:36] <hanak> anyone knows a norton ghost clone for linux?
[07:36] <moosah> is it possible to install a dmg file in linux?
[07:36] <spoon_man> !backup | hanak
[07:36] <ChaosParser> hanak: Nope.  But Clonezilla/DRBL is pretty fantastic.
[07:36] <Jester45> Mr_Bad_News: about what
[07:36] <yarrr>  Jester45: alright, thanks
[07:36] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, just tell it to format your / partition when you reinstall so that you can start fresh
[07:36] <Mr_Bad_News> the mp3 player
[07:37] <hanak> ChaosParser: I like to find something to make images from notebooks. For my work
[07:37] <Jester45> yarrr: feel free to pm me about it later
[07:37] <hanak> !sBackup
[07:37] <Jester45> Mr_Bad_News: is the player locked
[07:37] <yarrr> Jester45: will do, gonna give it a go and see what happens =)
[07:37] <Mr_Bad_News> dont think it has one
[07:37] <Mr_Bad_News> its a coby usb player
[07:38] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, or maybe make your / a 8 gig partition, and make a new partition to leave the rest for /home/
[07:38] <ChaosParser> hanak: Than Clonezilla/DRBL is what you want.  We use it at my workplace for images.  The only issue with it is its instructions.  If you use it with Ubuntu, change anytime it says su to sudo. ;) http://www.clonezilla.org/
[07:38] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: when i originally installed ubuntu, i had some trouble with partitioning.... but i guess formatting a partition is totally different than splitting one
[07:39] <Mr_Bad_News> ok Jester45 now its mounted rw but i cant move or delete music off it
[07:39] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: how would you suggest i go about re-installing hardy? i don't have the cd; i don't have a cd burner (that works); i don't have a usb drive--i do have an external hard drive as well as an operational windows xp
[07:39] <Jester45> Mr_Bad_News: try mounting it with out the -t vfat
[07:39] <Jester45> Mr_Bad_News: sudo chown -R yourusername /media/disk
[07:40] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, it will give you the option when installing to check the box to format, I just dont format my home so i can keep my stufff each time i do it.
[07:40] <Mr_Bad_News> no dice on the -t vfat
[07:40] <Lachlan> Hey guys how do I get the return value of a command?
[07:40] <Jester45> Unislash: you can install ubuntu from windows... but it runs a little bit slower
[07:40] <Unislash> Jester45: i don't want to run ubuntu in windows, if that's what you mean
[07:40] <Chikubu> were can i place some startup commands that will apply to all users
[07:41] <Mr_Bad_News> nothing Jester45
[07:41] <Mr_Bad_News> its mounted
[07:41] <Mr_Bad_News> but i cant do anything
[07:41] <spoon_man> !install | Unislash
[07:41] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, it might take you a while, but i believe there is a way to do a floppy/net install - you don't have a cd drive :/
[07:41] <Mr_Bad_News> rm: cannot remove `Al Jolson - The Anniversary Song.mp3': Read-only file system
[07:41] <Jester45> Unislash: no it installes the files into the windows partition and at boot will load those files and not windows... but its slower because it will be using NTFS and not ext3 or a good linux fs
[07:41] <Mr_Bad_News> /dev/sda on /media/disk type vfat (rw)
[07:42] <Unislash> spoon_man: i've read that--i just want advice before i follow something
[07:42] <hanak> ChaosParser: is that clone soft free?
[07:42] <Unislash> Jester45: i see.... but i already have a linux partition :) i want to overwrite it with a clean copy
[07:43] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: i have a cd drive--but it's writing capability seems to be bogus.... and requesting a free cd takes some 6 weeks :/
[07:43] <Mr_Bad_News> ok Jester45 now i have the option to delete from the right click but then it says read only
[07:43] <Jester45> Unislash: install from windows boot new buntu a debootstrap a new install to the linux partition
[07:44] <Jester45> Mr_Bad_News: did you try rm with root?
[07:44] <Mr_Bad_News> yes
[07:44] <Mr_Bad_News> im root
[07:44] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, i am sure there is a way to do a floppy or an install from inside windows - i never have though cus my cd works :P
[07:44] <Mr_Bad_News> rm -rf
[07:44] <Unislash> Jester45: sounds good :). Now, what did you say? :-s
[07:45] <Jester45> Unislash: lol that install is past my attention spand
[07:45] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: hehe, i see.... well, the route i'm considering taking (atm) is installing from windows using this tool.... (one sec)
[07:45] <vozniakBR> every time when i play game with low res the gnome panel icons get scrambled, how restore icons position?
[07:45] <Unislash> Jester45: lol, no prob.... maybe just a little bit more descriptive (i don't need step by step at all--just more explanation). A short paragraph would be greatly appreciated (like this one :P)
[07:46] <Jester45> vozniakBR: move them back
[07:46] <vozniakBR> Jester45: everytime is so booooring
[07:46] <vozniakBR> Jester45: 15+ icons
[07:46] <vozniakBR> Jester45: exists a hotkey to move icons?
[07:47] <Jester45> Unislash: you install from windows boot into the new ubuntu then use some fancy commands to use apt-get to install to the new partition
[07:47] <Utalcn2me> vozniakBR, it happens cus the resolution change will cause there position to jumble up and intersect...  happens to everyone when changing resolution...
[07:47] <Jester45> vozniakBR: right click uncheck lock to panel then you can drag and drop them
[07:47] <A[D]minS> can i write on NTFS drive?
[07:47] <vozniakBR> Utalcn2me: exists a fix for this?
[07:48] <Jester45> A[D]minS: yes
[07:48] <A[D]minS> when i try to copy to NTFS Drive it says read only
[07:48] <Utalcn2me> vozniakBR, ive noticed it doesn't happen in xubuntu though - i call it a bug in gnome
[07:48] <Unislash> Jester45: ah, i see what you're saying. Sounds complicated :P
[07:48] <Mr_Bad_News> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF2x5IKxmAQ
[07:48] <Jester45> Unislash: yep
[07:48] <vozniakBR> Jester45: nono you cant drag icons from panel ;/
[07:48] <vozniakBR> Jester45: ops, you can  ;P
[07:48] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: Where was i? Oh, right. I'm considering installing from windows by using the tool unetbootin
[07:49] <happymonkey> does anyone know how to fix a synaptics touchpad when it "breaks"?  By "break" I mean it stops functioning as a touchpad and operates like a regular mouse without 2 finger touch counted as 3rd mouse button or however one configured it in xorg.conf?
[07:49] <vozniakBR> Utalcn2me: i dont like much xfce, i prefer gnome
[07:49] <Unislash> Jester45: what do you think about that approach (using unetbootin to automate the installation from windows)?
[07:49] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, thereyago!!!, i guarantee it will take awhile, get yourself some coffee and somethin to do
[07:49] <Downloading> What's the best download manager for ubuntu?
[07:50] <vozniakBR> Downloading: Down them ALL - extension of firefox
[07:50] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: lol, coffee? Sleep is the best time-travel device we have! Psh... coffee....
[07:50] <Downloading> vozniakBR: doesn't have good resume support, sadly
[07:50] <khauka> Are you crazy?
[07:51] <vozniakBR> Downloading: otherwise you can run any windows download manager with wine
[07:51] <happymonkey> Downloading: wget -c
[07:51] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, don't you want to watch it download and install every package? :P
[07:51] <Downloading> happymonkey: is that some commandline thing?
[07:51] <lokuazzz> hello.. its gnome-splashscreen-manager not working for 8.04? :( i just download it but seems to not be working!
[07:51] <happymonkey> Downloading: yes, of course it is
[07:52] <Downloading> hmm... nothing pointy and clicky?
[07:52] <Downloading> perhaps with firefox integration?
[07:52] <Chikubu> anyone seen PixbufErrors with File with gnome-art, does this for every file it tries to download then deletes it, leaving me with no art
[07:53] <happymonkey> Downloading: gwget
[07:53] <Downloading> hmm?
[07:53] <vozniakBR> Chikubu: i'am getting the same insue
[07:53]  * Downloading searches
[07:53] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: hmm.... it sounds.... like watching The Incredible Hulk all over again (wait--didn't we do that already? :P)
[07:54] <Chikubu> web has nothing on it
[07:54] <xzhw52> test
[07:54] <Jester45> Downloading: use wget http://url.com and to resume wget -c
[07:54] <Downloading> Jester45: I just hate using commandline stuff though
[07:54] <Jester45> Downloading: wget is fast cli is the bast way some times
[07:54] <happymonkey> so no one has had problems with their synaptics touchpad, or at least has been able to fix them?
[07:55] <Downloading> Jester45: fast ? that won't help me since my connection is unreliable.
[07:55] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: Anyhoo, im going to go try that. Hopefully deleting the . stuff in /home/ will allow windows (and thus my utility) to access the linux partition...
[07:55] <lokuazzz> hello.. its gnome-splashscreen-manager not working for 8.04? :( i just download it but seems to not be working!.. i want to change the splash image :(.. the way i use to do it was using this splash manager program but not working anymore
[07:55] <Downloading> I just want something that y'know, perceives it as a job, will resume it if interrupted, those kinda things. Automated :)
[07:55] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, ive done net installs before, and usually it's just the base system, is it going to install all of ubuntu automatically?
[07:55] <Jester45> Downloading: thats the wget -c http://url.com part comes in
[07:55] <Chikubu> vozniakBR: only thing i can find is a reference to corrupt file Splash-CountrySplash.png  i see the file when i abort the program and delete but same problem
[07:56] <happymonkey> Jester45: yes, but for some reason he doesn't like cli apps.
[07:56] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: it looks like it
[07:56] <Chikubu> why one bad file would throw the wrench at the monkey i dunno
[07:56] <Downloading> hmm fireget
[07:56] <residentalien> has anyone come across a fix for the ATI drivers in Hardy?  Specifically X 1600 pro, and I get a black screen
[07:57] <vozniakBR> Chikubu: i can't get solution for this
[07:57] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, well hurry up and do it so you can tell me if it worked :?
[07:57] <Jester45> happymonkey: i noticed i wass just telling him a good downloader with resume support but i guess for cli i should be a diffrent channel :)
[07:57] <A[D]minS> FATAL: Module fuse not found.
[07:57] <A[D]minS> ntfs-3g-mount: fuse device is missing, try 'modprobe fuse' as root
[07:58] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: oh, question: it offers... some different versions of hardy to install (can't remember :-s). I'll get back on when i come back up in windows
[07:58] <A[D]minS> when i do modprobe fuse it says FATAL: Module fuse not found.
[07:58] <Jester45> A[D]minS: then try sudo modprobe fuse
[07:58] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: brb :P
[07:58] <A[D]minS> Jester45: same
[07:58] <Jester45> A[D]minS: install the fuse file system
[07:58] <Jester45> !fuse
[07:59] <Downloading> dang it not compatible
[08:01] <ce15_baek_hati> uyiyuyku
[08:01] <H__> absolutely
[08:01] <Unislash> Utalcndm2: Safe shutdown complete. Cool beans
[08:02] <Chikubu> vozniakBR: read this on a site "gnome-art is not supported any more, but gnome-artng is the successor of it."  looking for later version of one or the other now
[08:02] <victor__> !gramps
[08:02] <vozniakBR> Chikubu: ty, gooing see this
[08:03] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: 1) hmmm, that was a terrible smudging of your username. 2) Windows now can access my ubuntu partition :D
[08:03] <happymonkey> ok, well my touchpad is not working and must restart the computer, this is not good
[08:04] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: ok, the ubuntu hardy versions it allows me to install are Live and NetInstall. Which one does what? :)
[08:06] <vozniakBR> Chikubu: there a oficial group, but the soft not complete yet http://developer.berlios.de/projects/gnomeartng/
[08:06] <Chikubu> anyway to run commands at startup for all users, like mounting certain shares and volumes, enbaling compiz and emerald, instead of having to do it for each user, looking at etc/skel also, but thought i could shortcut some of this
[08:07] <Chikubu> im there now vozniakBR
[08:07] <Chikubu> im waiting on synaptic to finish so i can search if it is in repository yet or just use the deb
[08:08] <exot>  hello, please can any body help me to either SMTP or sendmail , I need one to be for bugzilla, I spent 8 days for nothing
[08:08] <Utalcn2me> Unislash,hm, dunno - - i need to look into netubootin i guess
[08:08] <Chikubu> simple mail transfer protocol, just means an outgoing mail server, not sure about sendmail
[08:10] <spoon_man> anyone know a good wallpaper site that isn't Deviant Art?
[08:10] <vozniakBR> Chikubu: seems there is working fine
[08:10] <Chikubu> but if it is asking for smtp server it wants a server that it can send from, if u have gmail you might can use that one if you set it up in gmail, if u are trying to use your computer u have to have a mail sever running and your isp has to not block it
[08:10] <who_dat> oops
[08:10] <Chikubu> vozniakBR:  cool ill try it
[08:11] <nickthorley> hi all - I realise this is slightly off topic but I wondered if there were any last.fm users here and I wondered if the subscription package is worth the money
[08:12] <Hoenikker> how much does it cost?
[08:12] <shubbar> how to start a program at startup as root?
[08:13] <airstrikeivanov> shubbar: /etc/rc.local ?
[08:13] <Chikubu> shubbar im trying to figure out how to startup programs for all users
[08:13] <Chikubu> after x loads
[08:13] <airstrikeivanov> Ooh.
[08:14] <Chikubu> lol i take it as Ooh not possible
[08:14] <airstrikeivanov> Anyone here using Hamachi? I need to test my Hamachi connection to see if it's just one person or if I'm having connectivity issues.
[08:14] <Chikubu> back to /etc/skel
[08:14] <airstrikeivanov> Nah, ooh as in I don't know how to do that. I normally just do /etc/rc.local.
[08:15] <Chikubu> actualy some of the stuff i want will probably work there, but i wanna start compiz and emerald for all users
[08:15] <nickthorley> hoenikker: £12.50 a year I think but not entirely sure what it offers the website doesnt explain much about it
[08:15] <shubbar> airstrikeivanov, are you sure?
[08:16] <vozniakBR> Chikubu: enabling it in "Visual efects" not solve?
[08:16] <airstrikeivanov> shubbar: I'm sure it's possible. I just myself don't know.
[08:16] <Chikubu> it didnt seem to start it automaticaly, maybe i need to look at it again
[08:16] <Chikubu> but if i have many users id rather not go through with it
[08:16] <nikko> Hello
[08:16] <Chikubu> just 4 now
[08:17] <vozniakBR> !hi | nikko
[08:17] <airstrikeivanov> Anyone in here using the Hamachi VPN program?
[08:17] <Chikubu> besides i like automated even it if takes longer than manual hehe
[08:17] <nikko> anyone know how to install a X-Fi Card with this OS
[08:17] <quentusrex> Does anyone know about the audio over HDMI feature?
[08:17] <PradeepDebata> sirex`: welcome to ubuntu
[08:17] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: you still there?
[08:18] <sirex`> PradeepDebata: thank you :)
[08:18] <PradeepDebata> CrazyCat: welcome to ubuntu
[08:19] <nikko> How about it... any takers for this questing... "How do you install a Soundblaster X-Fi Audio card with UBUNTU?
[08:19] <Unislash> Jester45: would it be easier to get wubi installed and then install a full ubuntu using that?
[08:19] <Downloading> aw dang Happymonkey is gone
[08:19] <Downloading> I was gonna ask him how I should configure gwget
[08:20] <PradeepDebata> How would i install Rediffbol in ubuntu
[08:20] <Chikubu> gwget doenst take much configuring
[08:20] <PradeepDebata> can anyone do me a favour
[08:20] <shubbar> Chikubu, what kind of program?
[08:21] <Downloading> Chikubu: aye, I don't know why though, that this particular file gets a download in DTA(which doesn't resume) and not gwget
[08:21] <brandonD> any body here running nvidia that can help me get the accelerated drivers to work?
[08:21] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, sorry, i was lookin at unetbootin
[08:21] <Downloading> what does "Download Page Requisite" mean?
[08:21] <nikko> It's not very hard to install the NVIDIA drivers
[08:22] <Chikubu> Downloading: dta? i dont follow, wget supports resume IF the site does
[08:22] <nikko> it just depends on your hardware version
[08:22] <nikko> UBUNTU will auto dl the drivers for you when you use the hardware updater.... additionaly when you go to install it the UBUNTU web site has exact instructions for configureing
[08:23] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: heh, no prob. It seems that unetbootin cannot recognize my ubuntu partition of my hard drive (i have that one named "z", and can access it from My Computer, but i can't choose it from the drop down list in unetbootin)
[08:23] <lwg> hi
[08:23] <PradeepDebata> :'(
[08:23] <lwg> hello
[08:23] <vozniakBR> !hi | lwg
[08:23] <Chikubu> vozniakBR: gnomeartng is giving me this on the files The remote server returned an error: (403) Forbidden.
[08:23] <PradeepDebata> lwg: HI
[08:24] <shubbar> PradeepDebata, what that program? a messenger?
[08:24] <PradeepDebata> lwg: welcome  to ubuntu
[08:24] <lwg> hello everyone
[08:24] <PradeepDebata> shubbar: yaa messenger
[08:24] <lwg> ok
[08:24] <lwg> thankyou
[08:24] <lwg> thanks
[08:24] <PradeepDebata> shubbar: rediffbol messenger
[08:24] <lwg> ?
[08:24] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: So.... i'm trying yet another approach :P. Do you think that installing the minimum wubi, running that, and installing a full ubuntu using wubi will work (aka, can wubi act sorta like a live CD that can install the full version?)
[08:24] <lwg> i don't know
[08:24] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, it just goes to show you, there is always somthing
[08:24] <vozniakBR> Chikubu: yeap, im not run it from console but all icons are apples
[08:25] <PradeepDebata> shubbar: is there any way to install it in ubuntu
[08:25] <vozniakBR> Chikubu: dont working ;/
[08:25] <brandonD> nikko, but when i use those drivers i get freq. out of range on my monitor
[08:25] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: Hehe, that's what's fun, and yet aggrivating about it :P. There's no dead ends, so you can keep going for quite some time... :P
[08:25] <Chikubu> there site says this: Gnomeartng is causing so much traffic on the gnome servers that the administrator blocked the ...
[08:26] <lwg> all of you are not chinese?
[08:26] <Chikubu> so i guess i gotta wait, even at 3:25 am ugg
[08:26] <eightball> help with samba please?
[08:26] <vozniakBR> Chikubu: here 4:25
[08:26] <magnetron> !ask | eightball
[08:26] <lwg> oh yeah
[08:26] <eightball> sorry
[08:26] <eightball> !ask'
[08:26] <eightball> !ask
[08:27] <Utalcn2me> i dunno about wubi or unetbootin - i bet i can get it to work if you were installing debian though :}
[08:27] <PradeepDebata> shubbar:how to do chating in rediffbol in ubuntu
[08:27] <vozniakBR> Chikubu: probably this is one of causes of "discontinue" of gnome art
[08:27] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: lol :P. well, i'll research wubi really quick here....
[08:27] <zhangy> hello everyone.
[08:27] <Chikubu> ah well reboot time
[08:27] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, it wont let you manually type in the partition to install into?  sucks :*
[08:27] <Unislash> (there should be some people here that already know about it, though :/)
[08:27] <beem0r> Howdy zhangy
[08:27] <shubbar_> PradeepDebata, a windows only, try installing wine
[08:28] <PradeepDebata> shubbar-then
[08:28] <zhangy> my first time here
[08:28] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: well, it does have the whole "show all drives" thing and i could select the drive from there, but it says that doing something like this will likely result in bad installs
[08:28] <PradeepDebata> shubbar:ok
[08:28] <vozniakBR> !hi zhangy
[08:28] <Downloading> Chikubu: I dunno here but I'm trying to download a youtube video via vixy.net and it won't download in gwget
[08:28] <vozniakBR> !hi | zhangy
[08:28] <eightball> zhangy i am new also
[08:29] <beem0r> As am I.
[08:29] <zhangy> thank you ubottu
[08:29] <Unislash> Utalcn2me: Maybe i'll just try it anyway.... we'll see if wubi can act like a livecd, and if it can't we'll take our chances with manually selecting the drive
[08:29] <zhangy> thank you all
[08:29] <eightball> any one haveing firefox 3 errors with youtube ?
[08:29] <Downloading> even a download from vimeo
[08:29] <PradeepDebata> sudhanshu:hI
[08:29] <Downloading> eightball: what kind?
[08:29] <beem0r> What's your problem, eight?
[08:30] <shubbar_> PradeepDebata, wine is like an emulator that make you able to run windows programs
[08:30] <vozniakBR> eightball: your flash and firefox are updated?
[08:30] <PradeepDebata> shubbar_OK THANK U
[08:30] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, it would be interesting to see if it would work out.  i dont blame you for giving it a shot.  doesn't sound like it would hurt anything, and it has a easy uninstaller too if it doesn;t work
[08:30] <eightball> vozniakBR not flash i have not got to install right
[08:31] <brandonD> anybody in here wanna help me with nvidia drivers? :]
[08:31] <beem0r> eightball: are you in x64?
[08:31] <beem0r> brandonD: what isn't working about them?
[08:31] <eightball> looking for sambe help also
[08:31] <eightball> beemor no
[08:31] <Jester45> WINE Is Not an Emulator
[08:32] <eightball> o or 0
[08:32] <eightball> sorry
[08:32] <vozniakBR> eightball: in terminal type sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install flash-plugin-nonfree
[08:32] <magnetron> eightball: WHAT KIND OF HELP do you want? you need to ask a question about samba, otherwise we cannot help you
[08:32] <beem0r> no prob ;]
[08:32] <vozniakBR> Jester45: wine is a emulator for me ;/
[08:33] <PradeepDebata> Jester45: then what is wine
[08:33] <esac_> is there an easy way to move from gnome to kde on default ubuntu install, and reverse the process if needed ?
[08:33] <magnetron> Jester45: it's a windows replacement.
[08:33] <Jester45> its not an emulator its a API layer
[08:33] <brandonD> beem0r, not to be mean but if your new i doubt you can help me ive been troubleshooting issues with ubuntu for 2 years now and i cant even figure this out but it says freq out of range whenever i use the nvidia driver for my card but before i did the update it did work fine but then i reverted back tio the vesa driver and everythings fine except ubuntu's kindof sluggish
[08:33] <vozniakBR> esac_: install kubuntu otherwise
[08:33] <eightball> magetron yes like to install samba and get it to work right
[08:33] <beem0r> What card you have, and what were you doing when you got the out-fo-range error?
[08:33] <gordonjcp> !samba | eightball
[08:33] <vozniakBR> Jester45: im JK ;*
[08:34] <brandonD> beem0r, and ive rewritten my xorg file like 20 times
[08:34] <Utalcn2me> Unislash, they say that gutsy will update to hardy, but you leave sooo much crud and logs and stuff behind when upgrading, i dont see it working - old config files everywhere
[08:34] <magnetron> vozniakBR, PradeepDebata: Wine doesn't emulate Windows, it replaces it.  Can't help much besides that, mine didn'
[08:37] <brandonD> beem0r, i thought so....
[08:37] <beem0r> brandonD: t give me any problems [accidentally hit enter]
[08:37] <pronto> linux uses windows code
[08:37] <pronto> >.>
[08:37] <Jester45> Unislash: idk
[08:37] <vozniakBR> Jester45: correct opengl is a directx emuletor
[08:37] <brandonD> pronto, shut your mouth
[08:37] <eightball> vozniakBR on flash say it can not find it in e:
[08:37] <pronto> lol :P
[08:37] <Duck1048> how do i launch a file to run in the background via command line?
[08:38] <barbara> Hey, I am trying to transfer a file via blue tooth and I keep getting an error "Operation not supported by backend."
[08:38] <barbara> anyone know anything?
[08:38] <pronto> now that is something i been wanting to do also, Duck1048
[08:38] <vozniakBR> eightball: sorry i can't understand what you say.
[08:38] <connor> could someone help me
[08:38] <connor> i have a problem
[08:38] <barbara> connor what's the problem?
[08:38] <Jester45> Duck1048:  command &    but when the terminal close so does the command
[08:38] <vozniakBR> all people have problems
[08:38] <beem0r> We might, if you tell us the problem.
[08:38] <Jester45> !ask | connor
[08:38] <connor> i have ubuntu and vista dual booted, i installed xp but i get a bluescreen in normal and safe mode when i boot xp
[08:38] <eightball> vozniakBR sorry one thing first i try smabe first
[08:38] <Jester45> errr
[08:39] <connor> how can i recover grub?
[08:39] <eightball> samba
[08:39] <Jester45> not quite the right one
[08:39] <potf_whisper> How can I disable the backup of text files?
[08:39] <barbara> Hey, I am trying to transfer a file via blue tooth and I keep getting an error "Operation not supported by backend." anyone know what the issue it?
[08:39] <Jester45> !grub
[08:39] <connor> thanks
[08:39] <vozniakBR> eightball: you using google translator? -.-
[08:39] <Jester45> 2nd link might help
[08:39] <Duck1048> Jester45: i'm trying to launch a program to stay running from a terminal i'm connecting to via SSH
[08:39] <nolimit> barbara: If you using XP or Vista and Linux multibooting, try bluetooth device ON from window os, and reboot to Linux.
[08:40] <eightball> voznikaBR what i do not know chazilla in firefox
[08:40] <brandonD> d
[08:40] <Jester45> Duck1048: use screen that way you can close ssh then later on connect back to ssh and check on the program, just run screen command
[08:40] <brandonD> jd
[08:40] <brandonD> sorry my cat ran on the keyboard
[08:40] <connor> grub> root (hd0,1
[08:40] <connor> Error 27: Unrecognized command
[08:41] <potf_whisper> How can I disable the backup of text files?
[08:41] <Duck1048> Jester45: forgive my squirrely ignorance, but... screen command?
[08:41] <Jester45> Duck1048: then to detach from console press ctrl + a + d
[08:41] <vozniakBR> eightball: i dont understand you, please take help from other person ;/
[08:41] <connor> anyone know about that error?
[08:41] <connor> wait i fixed it
[08:41] <beem0r> lol ;]
[08:41] <Chikubu> how can i make a desktop icon to a mounted network folder on a windows share, i try like and it says The target doesn't support symbolic links.
[08:41] <connor> setup (hd0)
[08:41] <connor> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[08:41] <connor> help
[08:42] <Jester45> Duck1048: say you wanted to run  firefox you would run screen firefox, but it has to be command line
[08:42] <vozniakBR> connor:  you edited  the menu.lst file?
[08:42] <connor> what?
[08:42] <connor> im using this tutorial
[08:42] <connor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:42] <Jester45> !enter
[08:42] <brandonD> vozniakBR, haha hes clueless
[08:42] <eightball> what was the url for push bin ?
[08:42] <Jester45> eightball: pastebin?
[08:43] <connor> can anyone help with the problem im having?
[08:43] <brandonD> pastebin.com eightball
[08:43] <Jester45> !pastebin > eightball
[08:43] <DistroJockey> !paste | eightball
[08:43] <DistroJockey> oops
[08:43] <connor> Ok this is my error when reinstalling grub http://pastebin.org/46262
[08:43] <DistroJockey> potf_whisper, depends what program you are using
[08:44] <brandonD> DistroJockey, so i still havent fixed it :\
[08:44] <vozniakBR> connor: how many hard disks you have?
[08:44] <connor> 2
[08:44] <DistroJockey> brandonD, :(
[08:44] <connor> 2 internals one unplugged external
[08:44] <brandonD> DistroJockey, i keep getting freq out of range after logging in
[08:44] <potf_whisper> DistroJockey, gedit
[08:45] <DistroJockey> potf_whisper, goto Edit menu, then Preferences and then Editor tab and tiurn off create backup
[08:45] <brandonD> potf_whisper, you used the command gksudo gedit then whatever you gedited right?
[08:45] <connor> anyone know what this error means?
[08:45] <connor> Ok this is my error when reinstalling grub http://pastebin.org/46262
[08:45] <brandonD> potf_whisper, nvm
[08:45] <Jester45> connor:  calm down
[08:45] <vozniakBR> connor: the problem is,  the fallowed tutorial is build to one hard disk.
[08:45] <connor> Oh
[08:45] <ninjabuntu> Why can i play Music CD's and hear then but not play game like Freedroid RPG and hear any of the sound effects? the game has Sound effects right?
[08:45] <brandonD> Jester45, then help him? and he will calm down?
[08:45] <connor> I need to overwrite windows boot loader THEN do this?
[08:46] <connor> Will doing a simple install fix this?
[08:46] <brandonD> connor, yes
[08:46] <Narcissus> When I try to play any music using Rhythmbox, nothing plays however music will play from other apps
[08:46] <eightball> hellow
[08:46] <Narcissus> any idea whats wrong?
[08:46] <eightball> any one
[08:47] <Jester45> brandonD: its not my job to help but he is !repeat ing a lot and still !enter s but the enter problem fixes itself with time on ric :)
[08:47] <connor> brandonD: even though i already have ubuntu installed?
[08:47] <brandonD> connor, but if you dont wanna lose files thats the way you should do it
[08:47] <connor> doing the install?
[08:47] <brandonD> connor, just reinstall if you dont have any files that will be lost
[08:47] <vozniakBR> connor: your ubuntu are installed in which HD?
[08:48] <connor> my first one
[08:48] <connor> that has vista
[08:48] <brandonD> Jester45, i hate people like you
[08:48] <eightball> thank u
[08:48] <beem0r> connor: Did you use Wubi to install? If so, you shouldn't need GRUB.
[08:48] <Jester45> Narcissus: are you playing mp3? try one of built in radios if so to make sure your mp3 decoder isnt the problem
[08:48] <vozniakBR> connor: the easier way to fix this are reinstall ubuntu
[08:48] <Jester45> brandonD: o well
[08:48] <connor> ok will do
[08:48] <brandonD> DistroJockey, wanna see my xorg that goes to the login screen then goes to freq out of range?
[08:49] <DistroJockey> brandonD, sure
[08:49] <potf_whisper> Is there any way to fix character encoding in gedit? Cause some files are displayed well on cyrillic, but some appears as ???????
[08:49] <brandonD> DistroJockey, okay itll take a sec
[08:49] <connor> will my old ubuntu partition get overwritten?
[08:49] <Narcissus> jester45, it is m4a - every song is m4a
[08:49] <vozniakBR> connor: exists others methods to fix it, but is so much complicated
[08:49] <connor> But will I have 2 ubuntu's?
[08:49] <exot> hello, can anybody help me to send an email from sendmail ? please any help
[08:49] <Jester45> Narcissus: try one of the radios just to see if its plays as they are ogg and natively supported
[08:50] <vozniakBR> connor: overwrite previous, you have important files in there?
[08:50] <connor> No i don't
[08:50] <eightball> samba set up what do i need to change and how do i find the name http://paste.ubuntu.com/23037/
[08:50] <connor> it doesn't matter to me if ubuntu gets overwritten
[08:50] <brandonD> this is my working config DistroJockey  http://pastebin.com/m46563ace
[08:50] <vozniakBR> connor: so overwrite ;)
[08:50] <connor> ok
[08:50] <connor> will i be able to boot vista?
[08:51] <vozniakBR> connor: ubuntu installer indentify vista loader and add there to GRUB
[08:51] <connor> Oh ok thanks
[08:51] <Briareos1> When I run the Citrix ICA Client 10 in fullscreen mode i cannot switch back to ubuntu. The ICA seems to catch any keyboardinput like CTRL+F2 - can I somehow work around that?
[08:51] <Narcissus> Jester45 do you have a link to an internet radio station I can use?
[08:52] <brandonD> DistroJockey, great now my gedit isnt working
[08:52] <DistroJockey> brandonD, :(
[08:52] <Jester45> Narcissus: you said your trying rythmbox? on the side has radio just pick one of those
[08:53] <connor> I hope vista boots!
[08:53] <Jester45> Narcissus: http://media.hiof.no/streams/m3u/nrk-mpetre-172.ogg.m3u
[08:53] <eightball> Briareos1 is there a way to change the keyboard short cut to some thing eles like shift =
[08:54] <Briareos1> eightball, but it seems citrix catches them all ...
[08:54] <vozniakBR> eightball: where you from?
[08:54] <brandonD> DistroJockey, okay i found it holdon uploading
[08:55] <DistroJockey> brandonD, here's a bit of my xorg.conf back when I had an nvidia card
[08:55] <DistroJockey> brandonD, http://pastebin.com/m4fd27106
[08:55] <Chikubu> icons on the desktop have a name under them, is there a way to force the name onto two lines? so "Elmo's Adventures in GrouchLand" doenst go halfway across the screen (exageration)
[08:55] <Jester45> Narcissus: if the radio works try fixing your codecs, im going to sleep right now
[08:55] <connor> So vista will still be intact?
[08:55] <Narcissus> Jester45, thanks for your help but it doesn't work
[08:56] <Narcissus> i'l;l try a straight uninstall reinstall
[08:56] <brandonD> DistroJockey, http://pastebin.com/m2cba0d3c
[08:56] <vozniakBR> connor: vista is not on same partition of ubuntu yeap?
[08:56] <Jester45> Narcissus: and sound comes from other programs
[08:56] <Narcissus> Yes
[08:56] <connor> no
[08:56] <connor> i installed ubuntu on a new partition
[08:56] <connor> of course
[08:56] <Jester45> Narcissus: make sure your volume is up first :) common mistake
[08:56] <brandonD> DistroJockey, can you take a look at those and compare and see if you can fix the problem :D
[08:56] <Narcissus> jester45, When I play a song, the cursor doesn't move
[08:56] <eightball> vozniakbr USA
[08:56] <Narcissus> jester45, the track progress indicator thing
[08:57] <eightball> briareosi just trying to help
[08:57] <DistroJockey> brandonD, what is the highest resolution your display can handle?
[08:57] <vozniakBR> connor: not touch on windows partition and will bi intact
[08:57] <connor> thanks
[08:57] <brandonD> well i think 1440x900 DistroJockey
[08:58] <AmirB> Hi, I dual boot Vista and Ubuntu and I wanted to add XP as well, and I was wondering if I could partition my drive in such a way to share it between the OS's?
[08:58] <DistroJockey> brandonD, ok
[08:58] <connor> AmirB: please don't make the mistake I did
[08:58] <vozniakBR> AmirB: ubuntu can read Vista partition
[08:59] <AmirB> connor: I am willing to give it a try, I know it's possible and think maybe your problem was only with you
[08:59] <Narcissus> AmirB, it's a bad idea overall but if you still want to, have say 20GB for each of the OS's and then an 100GB partition for a fat32 partition
[08:59] <vozniakBR> anyone have ati card with last FGRLX drivers?
[08:59] <Narcissus> amirb, NTFS for XP, ext3 for ubuntu and whatever windows blister uses
[09:00] <AmirB> narcissus: hmm, that sounds good. can all three OS's access that partition though? and how? and what is the risk? (why is it a bad idea?)
[09:00] <Narcissus> OS's aren't really designed to be multibooted and access the same partition...
[09:01] <DistroJockey> brandonD, you could try this one I guess:  http://pastebin.com/m225e67d4
[09:01] <Narcissus> windows will shove loads of .thumbdb files everywhere
[09:01] <AmirB> hmm
[09:01] <Jester45> AmirB: if y ou use fat you can access with all three and the only risk is getting a virus on one windows and passing it to the other but linux will be fine
[09:01] <Narcissus> ubuntu will chmod files
[09:01] <exot> hello,  I'm trying to configure sendmail ,, but I get the message start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/sbin/sendmail-mta: No such file or directory (No such file or directory)
[09:01] <exot> /etc/init.d/sendmail: 1287: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: not found
[09:01] <brandonD> DistroJockey, k hold on let me make a backup
[09:01] <DistroJockey> brandonD, *nods*
[09:02] <Jester45> Narcissus: fat supports mods?
[09:02] <connor> help
[09:02] <Unislash> AmirB: well, you can get them all to have read/write access. Use this program here for windows to see linux: http://fs-driver.org/index.html
[09:02] <AmirB> narcissus: hmm, I see your point
[09:02] <connor> it says vista but it boots xp
[09:02] <connor> and still bluescreen
[09:02] <connor> i got my computer yesterday
[09:02] <connor> ;__;
[09:02] <brandonD> DistroJockey, ill tell you how it works :D
[09:02] <DistroJockey> brandonD, *nods* :)
[09:02] <AmirB> unislash: does that program work with both X and Vista?
[09:02] <connor> i am on the verge of crying
[09:02] <connor> how can i get vista to boot?
[09:03] <Unislash> AmirB: if i recall--but lemme check, i'm on the site now...
[09:03] <Unislash> Amirb: yes, it does
[09:03] <AmirB> unislash: I'm on the site too...it says it can access ext2, but I think I installed Ubuntu on ext3...
[09:03] <connor> I'm going to try my idea but it will most likely fail ;__;
[09:03] <connor> ill be right back everyone
[09:03] <Unislash> AmirB: and of course you can mount the windows drives using ubuntu tools :)
[09:04] <Unislash> AmirB: hmmm.... well, here's my advice: the install took <1 min for me. Check it out and see if it works
[09:04] <AmirB> also, that would take care of a Windows-to-Linux connection, but what about a way to see my Vista drive from XP or vice-versa?
[09:04] <AmirB> ah, k :)
[09:05] <Unislash> AmirB: hmmm... vista and xp communicating? never... (lol, lemme see)
[09:05] <AmirB> lol
[09:05] <Unislash> AmirB: do you already have the three installed?
[09:06] <m1r> hello
[09:06] <AmirB> no, I wanted to know if this was possible before installing XP. I have the other two already
[09:06] <Unislash> AmirB: hm, k...
[09:06] <Semoikidi> Hello. Need help with MC [Midnight Commander]. So1 knows hows to stay in the current directory in Xterm when you exit from MC.
[09:07] <c0nfl|ct>  bom dia
[09:07] <Narcissus> I installed KDE on Ubuntu, then I removed it - but now I still get the 'welcome to Kubuntu KDE login screen' any ideas on how to remove that?
[09:07] <Briareos1> eightball, that's cool :)
[09:07] <m1r> Semoikidi: press ctrl-o to hide it in terminal
[09:07] <brandonD> DistroJockey, i wish i could like hug you haha
[09:08] <zorglu_> q. is there a way to get scp to do 'resume' aka to take back the copy where it has been interrupted ? like 'wget -c" tkind of thing
[09:08] <DistroJockey> brandonD, hehe
[09:08] <rick111> i've installed mysql and mysql-client, what's the terminal command to use the client? wanna test out my setup
[09:08] <DistroJockey> brandonD, all good I take it then? :)
[09:08] <brandonD> DistroJockey, it works :] thank you
[09:08] <DistroJockey> brandonD, excellent, you're welcome
[09:08] <connor> oh my god vista still boots
[09:08] <brandonD> thanks  :D
[09:08] <DistroJockey> :)
[09:09] <AmirB> unislash: hey, it worked! thanks!
[09:09] <rick111> the command line utility to connect to mysql...
[09:09] <connor> Thanks everyone for helping me get my vista to work again
[09:09] <ian__> hey all.  the latest kernel messed my X up pretty bad.  anyone else have that issue?
[09:10] <Narcissus> it messed with mine ian__ did it screw with your graphics?
[09:10] <Unislash> AmirB: Cool :).
[09:10] <daftpunk> Hi how do I report a problem in Ubuntu?
[09:10] <ian__> narcissus yes.  i've tried envy and all sorts of stuff.  can't figure out how to get back above 800x600
[09:10] <DistroJockey> !launchpad | daftpunk
[09:11] <Unislash> AmirB: I've done some research and i think that windows xp and vista will be able to communicate just fine right off the bat
[09:11] <Pers3ux> Hi
[09:11] <daftpunk> thanks
[09:11] <DistroJockey> np
[09:11] <AmirB> unislash: really? that would be great! so I would just see both drives?
[09:11] <Unislash> AmirB: read... http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/5025760b-0433-4ba1-a2f4-9338915fdb4b1033.mspx?mfr=true under Multiple Booting and File System Compatability
[09:11] <Unislash> and yea, that's what i think it'll do :P
[09:11] <Narcissus> It didn't affect mine that badly, but I'll do a bit of research on it and see if I can find anything to help you, you going to be idling?
[09:11] <brandonD> DistroJockey, i wish i wouldve thought of that hahaha alright ill see you later then TY :D :]
[09:12] <AmirB> unislash: that's great, thanks a lot!
[09:12] <ian__> narcissus, yeah i'll idle a bit
[09:12] <Pers3ux> I have installed a plugin for Totem to play vcd (.dat) files, it works but i can't use seeking!
[09:12] <Pers3ux> whats wrong?
[09:12] <Unislash> AmirB: yup :). Good luck :D!
[09:12] <AmirB> unislash: awright, now to install XP and hope nothing gets screwed up ;)
[09:12] <Unislash> AmirB: heh, well, at least you aren't installing vista :P
[09:13] <AmirB> true :)
[09:13] <StephenZ> XP's not such a terrible system, all told. It lacks the power and versatility of *nix systems, but it's not a bad choice for most.
[09:13] <Pers3ux> AmirB: salam
[09:14] <AmirB> pers3ux ...hello?
[09:14] <StephenZ> The pricetag, however, kills it.
[09:14] <Pers3ux> AmirB: i thought u are persian!
[09:14] <connor> AmirB: that xp stuff scared me
[09:14] <connor> im in vista now
[09:14] <AmirB> pers3ux: nope! why'd you think that?
[09:15] <Narcissus> I get the following error when trying to  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[09:15] <Narcissus>  * Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...                              * Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.
[09:15] <Narcissus> invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[09:15] <Narcissus>
[09:15] <AmirB> connor: well, I hope that it turns out better for me, and wish you luck for getting it fixed!
[09:16] <virus1> hi
[09:16] <Narcissus> hello virus1
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[09:17] <DistroJockey> hey ActionParsnip
[09:17] <Cosmo-san> hey guys, anyone remember a battery program that examined the laptop battery and repaired it in its magical way?
[09:17] <AmirB> thanks a lot everyone, bye!
[09:17] <Narcissus> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH RHYTHMBOX WORKS AGAIN!!!!
[09:17] <pen> why the icons in notification area are not lined up? some are bigger than the others?
[09:18] <Zero_Kewl> hi all whats up
[09:18] <pen> even I know there is a smaller icon for that in the theme, but it's not used
[09:18] <pen> why?
[09:18] <Zero_Kewl> whats some good ubuntu books
[09:19] <pen> I found that my icons in notification area looks very inconsistent
[09:19] <pen> how do I solve it?
[09:19] <pen> is there are patch or something?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Zero_Kewl: the web is the best place man
[09:19] <DistroJockey> pen, try a different theme maybe
[09:20] <pen> DistroJockey, I'm curious as why the currecnt theme have  the smaller icon but it's not used to scale down
[09:20] <Zero_Kewl> pen u might have to fix ur x-server
[09:20] <kahrytan> What grub does Linux Mint use?
[09:20] <Zero_Kewl> the net
[09:20] <Zero_Kewl> i look on the net
[09:20] <pen> Zero_Kewl, why does it related to x server?
[09:20] <DistroJockey> pen, no idea really, never seen/heard of that issue
[09:20] <Zero_Kewl> i found alot
[09:21] <pen> DistroJockey, I can show you the portion of my screen
[09:21] <Zero_Kewl> what graphic u have pen
[09:21] <DistroJockey> pen, sure
[09:21] <pen> Zero_Kewl, NVIDIA
[09:21] <Zero_Kewl> u have the right drivers for it
[09:22] <connor> ok this xp install screwed over my vista install
[09:22] <Zero_Kewl> uu have glx installed pen
[09:22] <pen> Zero_Kewl, I did.
[09:22] <pen> Zero_Kewl, yes, I have installed the driver
[09:22] <Zero_Kewl> hang on let me look at something a sec i tell u whats wrong ok
[09:23] <pen> DistroJockey, http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotft9.png
[09:23] <pen> DistroJockey, look at the rhythmbox and network icon
[09:23] <parky2> hello, anyone know how to fix samba on hardy...gui won't work for me
[09:23] <DistroJockey> pen, k
[09:23] <pen> DistroJockey, why are they cropped
[09:23] <Gin> !java
[09:24] <pen> DistroJockey, in my icon theme Gion, it has the 16x16 icon for rhythmbox, but it's not used apparently
[09:24] <DistroJockey> pen, yeah, that is odd. No idea at this stage sorry
[09:24] <Zero_Kewl> pen Try install nvidia-glx-legacy driver
[09:24] <pen> Zero_Kewl, why?
[09:25] <Zero_Kewl> do it
[09:25] <Zero_Kewl> u even have that installed
[09:25] <zorglu_> !ftp
[09:25] <zorglu_> !ftpd
[09:26] <pen> Zero_Kewl, i have nvidia-glx-new installed
[09:26] <Zero_Kewl> ok
[09:26] <pen> Zero_Kewl, why install the legacy?
[09:26] <pen> Zero_Kewl, did you see my shots?
[09:26] <Zero_Kewl> nvm
[09:26] <pen> Zero_Kewl, http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotft9.png
[09:26] <Zero_Kewl> whats wrong with the icons any ways
[09:26] <pen> Zero_Kewl, two of the icons are not resized
[09:26] <Zero_Kewl> oic
[09:26] <Zero_Kewl> hang on
[09:26] <SevenIsPrime> Hi
[09:27] <pen> Zero_Kewl, although I have the icons svg and 16x16, it is not used
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> Zero_Kewl: for old cards use legacy (like tnt cards), geforece4 etc cards use nvidia-glx, for new cards install nvidia-glx-new or the one from nvidia site
[09:27] <SevenIsPrime> I am having problems booting into ubuntu kernel 2.6.24-19-generic. It always hangs at starting hald. Any hints what I am doing wrong?
[09:28] <Zero_Kewl> ok that was my bad actionparsnip
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> ive a geforce6 onboard vga, i use nvidia-glx
[09:29] <Zero_Kewl> well iam going to hunt info on ubuntu so u can learn looks like i got a long morning ahead of me
[09:30] <Zero_Kewl> u all have fun be good and keep it real
[09:31] <ubuntu_> Hello
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> hi ubuntu_
[09:32] <hware_prob> Hello, i am in the end of an ubuntu installation and the process is stopped in 90%. It says "configuring hardware..." but nothing happens
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> hware_prob: how long has it been?
[09:34] <hware_prob> It takes long.. more than 5 minutes i guess
[09:34] <Dinasty> hware_prob: try giving more time
[09:34] <hware_prob> Okay
[09:35] <AcBush> Hey There. I have a Windows comp that just f'd up. How can I make it possible for me to grab files from the Windows Drive and pull them over to my Ubuntu Drive?
[09:35] <Gralco> so i just noticed that if you search download in google the second thing on the list is ubuntu
[09:35] <hanak> anyone familar with clonezilla?
[09:35] <Gralco> right behind download.com
[09:36] <sp219> ubuntu is an OS
[09:36] <Gralco> good job
[09:36] <Chrysalis> AcBush: put the drive as slave in a working computer should work
[09:36] <sp219> :
[09:36] <sawyer_> any idea why xorg.conf seems to get completely ignored on startup?
[09:36] <sp219> AcBush: mount the partition
[09:36] <hanak> chaky:
[09:36] <hanak> anyone familar with clonezilla?
[09:37] <AcBush> It already is. I have the Linux disc in, and it runs fine. I can see my C drive, which previously had Windows XP. I want to copy files from the Windows partitioned C Drive, to my Linux.
[09:38] <hware_prob> How long does it take normally to configure hardware? I am using a quad core @ 2.6ghz and 1gb ram. Is it normal ?
[09:38] <berzerka> AcBush: well just copy them over using a file manager of your choice or cp.
[09:38] <AcBush> But when I try to drag and drop it, it gives me a permissions errror.
[09:38] <berzerka> AcBush: then check the mount permissions of the windows drive or copy as root and do a chown afterwards.
[09:39] <berzerka> AcBush: is it NTFS?
[09:39] <AcBush> So, if I was in terminal, I'd type sudo cp locationoffile
[09:39] <AcBush> ?
[09:39] <AcBush> YEs it is NTFS
[09:39] <GeoffTheFish> Help! I have just killed my mouse by accident by trying to configure it so that the scroll works. How can I use the keys to open a terminal and re-edit the conf to fix my mouse?
[09:40] <pen> GeoffTheFish, alt+f1 opens the menu
[09:41] <AcBush> I'm trying to take files off of harddrive 1, and move them to harddrive 2, using Ubuntu, both are windows partioned, both NTFS.
[09:41] <berzerka> AcBush: has the drive been automounted or did you mount it manually, and where?
[09:41] <berzerka> AcBush: in this case the driveS.
[09:41] <AcBush> mounted to the desktop
[09:41] <AcBush> both mounted to desktop
[09:41] <berzerka> AcBush: what is that supposed to mean?
[09:41] <AcBush> Both drives are mounted in Ubuntu, and are on the desktop..
[09:42] <berzerka> you mean they are mounted to $HOME/Desktop? unlikely..
[09:42] <berzerka> ah so they were automounted by ubuntu.
[09:42] <AcBush> Yeah, guess so.. Sorry, not as knowledgable as I'd like to be... :)
[09:42] <berzerka> AcBush: look into /media/<partition>, there you find the actual mounted directories.
[09:43] <AcBush> How would I just like, grant access to the Windows partition, because linux is telling me it doesnt have the rights or whatever.
[09:43] <berzerka> AcBush: my ubuntu mounts the NTFS partition as root:plugdev, so check (with the "groups" command) wether you are in the plugdev group.
[09:44] <AcBush> We are using a Ubuntu, 7.10 Live Version.
[09:44] <fr0z3n1x> Sawyer_: gpasswd -a username dbus hal storage optical audio
[09:45] <PradeepDebata> AcBush: then use 8.04,its good
[09:46] <passbe> i have started a wget -recursive command, its taking forever, id like to stop it, but am i going to be able to re-run the command, and will it start from where it left off ?
[09:47] <DistroJockey> AcBush, it's probably easier to hit  Alt+F2 and type in:   gksu nautilus
[09:47] <AcBush> what does that do?
[09:47] <DistroJockey> AcBush, runs the filemanager as root
[09:47] <AcBush> o ok
[09:48] <berzerka> AcBush: it opens nautilus as root, what is not a good idea...
[09:48] <AcBush> so then i will have access to both drives ?
[09:48] <AcBush> why is it not a good idea?
[09:48] <DistroJockey> AcBush, theoretically
[09:48] <berzerka> AcBush: because then you will have access to everything.
[09:48] <AcBush> mk well i will try it
[09:48] <berzerka> have fun :)
[09:49] <DistroJockey> AcBush, do copy/paste rather than drag/drop to be on the safe side :)
[09:50] <Chrysalis> wouldnt the files then need root to access?
[09:50] <DistroJockey> Chrysalis, yep
[09:51] <DistroJockey> Chrysalis, that's where  chown  comes in
[09:51] <offline> i bought new HD for data storage only, on what format should i use ? ext2 or ext3?
[09:51] <Ero][Otaku> Hi
[09:52] <nobody33> join test
[09:52] <geirha> offline: ext3 is the filesystem ubuntu uses by default. Unless you have special needs, use ext3
[09:53] <offline> geirha: what kind of special needs ? if i may may know ? i'm total newb
[09:54] <Ero][Otaku> I got a little problem
[09:54] <Ero][Otaku> I use two HDD. one IDE with Windows Xp Home Edition on it that crashed
[09:54] <Ero][Otaku> and a SATA with ubuntu 7.04 that I can't access
[09:54] <Ero][Otaku> When I try to mount it through a live CD, it says it has only 10 mb free space
[09:54] <Ero][Otaku> But the SATA HDD with Ubuntu 7.04 on it is 80 GB
[09:54] <Ero][Otaku> when I browse it, it only shows 5 files, one of them named bootex.log
[09:54] <Chrysalis> theres a blank .lnk file after installing a windows program on wine, is it safe to remove?  the regular icon is on the desktop aswell, not sure where this second .lnk blank came from
[09:54] <nobody33> join test
[09:54] <geirha> offline: well, if you need to be able to access it through windows, you might want to consider fat32 or ntfs, so you won't need to install anything extra in windows to use it
[09:55] <offline> geirha: oww.. i got it.. thanks for the explanation
[10:01] <trumbun> I need some materials for a group of young user 13 - 18 that we are going to talk about open source software. To help the make the turn over to Linux. Any Help
[10:03] <DistroJockey> trumbun, well, a Ubuntu Live CD is a good start :)
[10:04] <trumbun> ok that I already have ready
[10:04] <DistroJockey> trumbun, copies of it for them to take home? ;)
[10:04] <Scarey> trumbun, perhaps a list of commenly used software on windows.. and which options are available on linux.
[10:05] <DistroJockey> Scarey, nice one :)
[10:05] <pen> anyone know why icons in notification area are buggy, they just can't resize
[10:05] <Scarey> :o)
[10:05] <trumbun> I had in mind showing GIMP
[10:06] <AcBush> if i use partition magic, and i create a partition for ubuntu, can i install it without having a loss of everything on windows? i want to have bot.
[10:06] <AcBush> both
[10:06] <gordonjcp> AcBush: yes, you can resize your windows partition
[10:06] <Potable> hellooo
[10:06] <Potable> how are you ?
[10:07] <EspadaV8_W> hi, i'm trying to find what bugs exist for mysql 5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.9
[10:07] <_moro_bana_> is there a chanell that discusses hardware?
[10:07] <EspadaV8_W> and what patches have been applied
[10:07] <Potable> I will leave you :p
[10:07] <feuj> hi
[10:07] <Starnestommy> _moro_bana_: ##hardware
[10:07] <EspadaV8_W> is there a page anywhere showuing this?
[10:07] <Scarey> trumbun, most 13-18 years use the net for socializing I would think.. perhaps Pidgin, aMsn, Firefox, x-Chat ?
[10:07] <Potable> in don't understand English very well
[10:07] <Potable> I*
[10:07] <feuj> I'm facing a problem, and I suppose it's a common problem. I can't use 'su'
[10:07] <node357> !enter | EspadaV8_W
[10:07] <feuj> ubuntu doesn't ask for a root passwd when installing
[10:07] <Potable> byebye
[10:08] <feuj> how could I enable 'su' ?
[10:08] <Starnestommy> feuj: use sudo