[00:00] <wat> !swat > wat
[00:00] <wat> sweet
[00:00] <soundray> Krauss: http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino/DFI_RS482/DFI_RS482_BIOS2.jpg  -- UMA Framebuffer Size
[00:00] <artti> Hey everyone. I have small questions. Which text files change constantly. I know about log files. But is there some other files.
[00:00] <Krauss> soundray: Thanks
[00:01] <ERICHMOBILE> anyone know if gnucash can save as pdf??
[00:01] <soundray> artti: you're looking for text files that change, but that aren't log files?
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Krauss: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=134201
[00:01] <soundray> ERICHMOBILE: if it can print, it can save to PDF.
[00:01] <carandraug> linkmaster03: I didn't thought about root being a diferent user at the moment. Mine was never locked (well, actually it's the first time I went to that menu but it's not now now)
[00:01] <Krauss> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[00:01] <cheeky> soundray: i wanted to it via terminal for learning purposes i should have mentoined it earlier my bad
[00:01] <artti> soundray, well log files was first i found, now i look more.
[00:02] <carandraug> linkmaster03: maybe there's something in gconf-editor
[00:02] <bert1> anyone know why i cant delete or move files i have just copyed to the desktop??? i keep getting permision denied errors...)
[00:02] <linkmaster03> carandraug: i'll just post on ubuntuforums :P
[00:02] <soundray> cheeky: check whether it's mounted by running the "mount" command with no parameters. If the mount point is /media/disk, then that's where you'll find the files
[00:03] <soundray> artti: why, if I may ask?
[00:03] <cheeky> soundray: ahhh nice thnx
[00:03] <bert1> hi, I have a folder open with lots of pictures. how do i display a coloum that shows the dimensions of the pictures (1280x800 etc...)
[00:03] <orgthingy> can i get .deb of linux kernel?
[00:03] <Krauss> Alright soundray and ActionParsnip, thanks for the help. I'm off to try and work this out. =D
[00:03] <orgthingy> im really scared to compile kernel
[00:03] <orgthingy> :P
[00:04] <artti> soundray, ehm, i got somekind game idea about four hours ago and now i've done that.
[00:04] <Martiini> orgthingy: packages.ubuntu.org
[00:04] <soundray> orgthingy: Ubuntu makes it unnecessary in all but the most extreme cases
[00:04] <fozilla> ssh session closes immediatley after opening when trying chroot users via jailkit, only info I could find was mounting /proc in the jail... still no luck, any ideas?
[00:04] <abc1234567> http://paste.ubuntu.com/45977/ can anyone help
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Krauss: gl man
[00:04] <cheeky> soundray: i it spat out alot of mount points .. iam having a lil trouble finding wat my usb HDD is called
[00:04] <orgthingy> and, if i upgrade to 8.10 in october
[00:04] <orgthingy> will it upgrade kernel as well?
[00:05] <carandraug> ImSoNewb: did you figure out what was wrong?
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> abc1234567: what command are you running to get that message?
[00:05] <siloko> cheeky: ununtu usually mounts usb drives in /media - called something like disk-1
[00:05] <Krauss> Thanks again ActionParsnip  and sounray
[00:05] <Krauss> soundray**
[00:05] <ImSoNewb> carandraug: i rebooted, loaded up the live session, and ran the installer. at the partitioning screen, the same thing is happening. no hard disks displayed and i can't proceed.
[00:05] <Martiini> orgthingy: it will upgrady everything to current versions when you do release upgrade
[00:05] <strategy> wow, piping is really cool and useful..
[00:05] <soundray> cheeky: if your regular hard disk is /dev/sda, it's probably /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc -- so try 'mount | grep sd | grep media' to filter the results
[00:06] <siloko> cheeky:  so to view from the commandline you need to type "nautilus /media/disk-1"
[00:06] <abc1234567> actionparsnip  : system - administatration update manager  then it asks if i want to do a partial upgrade or cancel
[00:06] <abc1234567> thanks
[00:07] <cheeky> nautilus... that new ..whats that
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | abc1234567
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> abc1234567: you following that guide ^?
[00:07] <orgthingy> cheeky : nautilus sucks
[00:07] <siloko> cheeky:  the gnome file manager
[00:07] <strategy> cheeky, it's the file browser
[00:07] <orgthingy> but still best that i know
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> !nautilus | cheeky
[00:08] <orgthingy> ubottu : u know nothing
[00:08] <soundray> cheeky: have you seen the cli factoid?
[00:08] <carandraug> ImSoNewb: that's really strange. Only thing that occurs to me is some problem with the disks installation. You'll have to ask around and say that nothing appears appears under "sudo fdisk -l"
[00:08] <soundray> !cli > cheeky
[00:08] <abc1234567> action - running the latest version
[00:08] <cheeky> soundray:  wat cli ?
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> !cli | cheeky
[00:09] <soundray> cheeky: see the private message that ubottu sent
[00:09] <siloko> cheeky: cli = command line interface
[00:09] <abc1234567> actionparsnip running sudo apt-update gets the following error http://paste.ubuntu.com/45981/
[00:09] <orgthingy> GNOME-terminal is slow
[00:09] <orgthingy> <3 ROXterm
[00:09] <adamonline45> Hello, I have a server daemon running whos process I'm trying to kill from within top.  It keeps restarting itself, is there a way to stop it?  Which sig kill # thing should I pass it?
[00:09] <TheMaxzilla> not rly
[00:09] <orgthingy> much faster
[00:09] <clint_> ok konqueror rawks
[00:09] <cheeky> siloko: thnnx
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> abc1234567: you need to get the key for that server to alieviate that
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: yakuake :)
[00:10] <abc1234567> actionparsnip :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/45983/
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: terminal goes as fast as the system. i dont see how a cli can be faster than another
[00:10] <orgthingy> GNOME-terrminal has slower start-up than ROXterm, a known fact
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: ahh, loading times
[00:11] <abc1234567> actionparsnhip where do i get a key ?
[00:11] <soundray> ActionParsnip: gnome-terminal is renowned for slow font rendering (but it's improved a lot in recent years)
[00:11] <orgthingy> ActionParsnip : yes, that matters a bit :P
[00:11] <sbp__> cheese
[00:11] <sbp_> cheese
[00:12] <Krauss> Perfect. =D
[00:12] <orgthingy> is there a shell script/program that ables nautilus to rename multiple files at once?
[00:12] <soundray> Krauss: you have more RAM now?
[00:12] <Krauss> soundray: Yup.
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> soundray: orgthingy: my pc is always on and yakuake is always running
[00:12] <Krauss> soundray: You're a huge help
[00:12] <Krauss> soundray: thanks =D
[00:12] <orgthingy> yakuake ?
[00:13] <Krauss> ActionParsnip: thanks so much
[00:13] <stinger1990> can i make a server out of an 8GB HDD?
[00:13] <InHisName> ph0rensic: I tried adding "vesa" and got a scrambled login screen.  Went to ctrl-altf2 and put back "nv" into it. Still have the problem after logging in and before desktop creation.
[00:13] <soundray> stinger1990: no, you'd need a CPU as well
[00:13] <soundray> ;)
[00:13] <stinger1990> well, yeah i know this
[00:13] <stinger1990> :
[00:13] <stinger1990> :P
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> abc1234567: http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions
[00:13] <starn> anyone know the name of the "software?"  that enables the 3d desktop crap? like the 3d cube? i know it starts with a C i keep wanting to say compiz am i right? i knwo this is a nooby question... but my memory is horrible
[00:13] <Siph0n> starn, compiz ?
[00:14] <soundray> stinger1990: Ubuntu Server edition installs fine in 3GB HD
[00:14] <InHisName> ph0rensic: there must be another setting or conf file somewhere interfering with a bad setting.
[00:14] <Siph0n> starn, compiz sounds right to me
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: its the equiv of tilda in gnome
[00:14] <soundray> !server > stinger1990
[00:14] <art_> this is going to be the most retarded question today, but how for heavens sake can i paste something in nautilus (preferably without terminal. I already tried googling it for 2 hours
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> !tilda | orgthingy
[00:14] <stinger1990> so, I would be able to host an UT3 server fine?
[00:14] <orgthingy> tilda?
[00:14]  * orgthingy goes to wikipedia
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: its like console in quake o halflife
[00:14] <stinger1990> with 2GB ram, and 1.8GHz Sempron
[00:14] <ph0rensic> InHisName: nothing comes to mind man sorry
[00:14] <jrib> art_: nautilus?  the file browser?  just right click, paste
[00:14] <starn> Siph0n: oh ok thanks ^^ i never trust my memory lol for normaly it is wrong.
[00:14] <soundray> art_: right-click and select Paste from the context menu?
[00:14] <art_> it wont
[00:14] <art_> i need permission
[00:14] <orgthingy> i have around 1GHZ laptop
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: basically you can view or hide the terminal with a hot key
[00:15] <orgthingy> with ~300mb ram
[00:15] <jrib> art_: what exactly are you trying to copy and where?
[00:15] <orgthingy> and crappy ATI graphics card
[00:15] <orgthingy> #1 worst pc of all time
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> peace out kids, im gone,
[00:15] <ph0rensic> l8r
[00:15] <art_> a config file in /usr/local/games/enemy-territory
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> orgthingy: sudo apt-get install tilda
[00:15] <soundray> orgthingy: please keep it on one line and express yourself professionally
[00:15] <orgthingy> what;s hot key though?
[00:16] <starn> Siph0n: hey um whats the dif in compiz fusion? and compiz?... i just got a little confused.
[00:16] <orgthingy> soundray : awww :'(
[00:16] <soundray> orgthingy: hot key for what?
[00:16] <orgthingy> soundray : tilda
[00:16] <Siph0n> starn, not sure :) ... compiz fusion may be the new name for it.... but dont quote me :)
[00:16] <orgthingy> ActionParsnip : what alias do you have?
[00:16] <orgthingy> most of my alias begin with "mk" :P
[00:16] <orgthingy> it makes it sound more UNIXish :P
[00:16] <Siph0n> starn, I thought two things combined to form compiz fusion
[00:17] <ph0rensic> starn: I think compiz and beryl combined to make compiz fusion, so there are packages from both projects
[00:17] <starn> Siph0n: ok thanks :) might be.. um. i guess i shall download fusion..
[00:17] <ph0rensic> starn: wait what os u on?
[00:17] <austin> Hi room
[00:17] <ph0rensic> sasser lol
[00:17] <starn> ph0rensic: ubuntu 8.04
[00:18] <jrib> !who | art_
[00:18] <adamonline45> Do I have to do anything special to boot a computer remotely, by NIC?  Or just acess it?
[00:18] <ph0rensic> starn: do a sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manage
[00:18] <starn> ph0rensic: and i know i dont have no dang 3d cube like my first install
[00:18] <duxbarak> what do i need to do to get a basic webcam to work?  i plugged it in and nothing happened automagically
[00:18] <ph0rensic> oops manager
[00:18] <austin> How do you installl themes? i'm having a bit of trouble
[00:18] <art_> let me reformulate: what magic keycombination (e.g. alt-f4) lets my type in my password in nautilus, so i can paste something
[00:18] <starn> ph0rensic: ok
[00:18] <jrib> art_: you need to run 'gksudo nautilus'.  Be careful with what you do while that is open.  After you have copied the file, be sure to close this instance of nautilus
[00:18] <art_> ok
[00:18] <Aaskereia> i'm not able to use dbus in an ssh session.. I typed export `dbus-launch` and export $DISPLAY=:0.0 ... do I need to do anything else?
[00:19] <ph0rensic> starn: Because fusion comes packaged with hardy .. you just have to enable the control for it by sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:19] <emet> !midi
[00:19] <starn> ph0rensic: ah... i see um it says couldn't find package. i'll check if i added a space from copy and past :D i know i am lazy
[00:19] <soundray> !webcam > duxbarak
[00:20] <soundray> Aaskereia: please explain a bit more about what you are trying to do
[00:20] <ph0rensic> starn: at the end did you copy the manage or manager?
[00:20] <starn> ph0rensic: if its in apt-get wont it be in the package manager thingy?
[00:20] <art_> yeeeah, it worked
[00:20] <art_> thnx jrib and ubottu
[00:20] <starn> ph0rensic: yes not suppose to?
[00:20] <ph0rensic> starn: It should have the r at the end
[00:20] <MindVirus> Any audio visualization software on Linux?
[00:20] <ph0rensic> manager not manage
[00:20] <art_> how can i close the instance?
[00:21] <duxbarak> thanks
[00:21] <MindVirus> Yvonne, thanks for the link.
[00:21] <Yvonne> :)
[00:21] <jrib> art_: press the x
[00:21] <soundray> MindVirus: do you mean eyecandy or envelope curves and such?
[00:21] <starn> ph0rensic: wow that makes me feel dumb ty mate
[00:21] <Aaskereia> soundray: I got Exaile running on my other computer. I SSH'd into that system and typed export $DISPLAY=:0.0 and export `dbus-launch`, but when I type "exaile -q", it says no running instance of Exaile found.. even though it's running. I'd liek to be able to control it via SSH
[00:21] <ph0rensic> sall good man
[00:21] <MindVirus> soundray, I wouldn't know. I mean something that looks pretty to music.
[00:21] <art_> lol
[00:22] <art_> somethings are so illogical to me as windows user that the logical seems to easy to be true
[00:22] <Gosseyn77> Hello
[00:22] <MindVirus> art_, it's OK. Not everyone's as smart as I am.
[00:22] <guibby> I'm going to install dualboot with WinXP on my laptop, the Ubuntu documentation says you can just do a defrag of WinXP and then run the live CD to partition, is this really OK, or will I get better results reformatting and setting partitions then?
[00:22] <soundray> Aaskereia: forget about dbus and $DISPLAY and use 'ssh -CX user@othercomputer'. Then exaile will play on the other computer, but display on your local one.
[00:22] <NotDamienGray> Gosseyn77: Hiya.
[00:22] <Gosseyn77> is there persons living in china or usa please?
[00:23] <wat> why is it telling methat I do not have permission to access a folder?
[00:23] <MindVirus> Gosseyn77, here.
[00:23] <wat> im the uhh OWNER
[00:23] <orgthingy> what o_O
[00:23] <starn> ph0rensic: thankyou i now got the one function i've been wanting my 3d cube
[00:23] <MindVirus> wat, check its permissions.
[00:23] <NotDamienGray> Gosseyn77: USA here.
[00:23] <orgthingy> i dont need sudo to use rm?
[00:23] <ph0rensic> guibby: IMO reinstalling both from scratch works best if you can do that
[00:23] <wat> it says owner root
[00:23] <guibby> I can just huge pain!
[00:23] <wat> how do i let this folder know im root?
[00:23] <MindVirus> wat, use sudo.
[00:23] <MindVirus> You're not the owner if the owner is root.
[00:23] <ph0rensic> starn: cool, be sure to enable cube caps and set images for those so the cube at the top and bottom isn't plain
[00:23] <MindVirus> Root is the owner.
[00:23] <soundray> !sudo | wat
[00:23] <shiloh7_> ewwwwwww windows
[00:23] <MindVirus> You can be root if you have high privileges.
[00:23] <wat> !gksu
[00:24] <Aaskereia> soundray, I'm SSH'ing into the system with a cellphone. I can't make it display X windows
[00:24] <AliTabuger7> guibby - I could be wrong, but i think defragging in windows puts all of the data in the very beginning of the disk, so that would mean that the data toward the end won't be erased.
[00:24] <Aaskereia> soundray, something with dbus can't be done?
[00:24] <ph0rensic> guibby: Second best option is to use partition magic to resize the windows drive
[00:24] <starn> ph0rensic: you mean you can fix that? wow my first install i just learned to ignore it.
[00:24] <ph0rensic> guibby: After a defrag etc
[00:24] <guibby> OK then, I'll do that, I didn't have anything better to do tonight!
[00:24] <soundray> Aaskereia: I see... maybe use a cli audio player instead of exaile?
[00:25] <ph0rensic> starn: Yes you can even set hotkeys to scroll through several differnt image options while your moving the cube
[00:25] <wat> so how do i do gksudo to open up the file browser?
[00:25] <SebNaitsabes> wat: why do you want to do that?
[00:25] <ph0rensic> wat: gksudo nautilus
[00:25] <soundray> wat: hit Alt-F2 and type gksudo nautilus
[00:25] <SebNaitsabes> wat: be careful or you can screw Ubuntu up with that
[00:25] <guibby> So then in terms of partition size, assuming I have about 15 GB or so space I can use for my Ubuntu install, how would you allocate space: 500 MB to swap, 8 to root and 7 to home, or more to root?
[00:25] <Aaskereia> soundray: What I'm asking is if it's possible to do it with dbus
[00:25] <soundray> wat: please be very careful while you run nautilus with root privileges
[00:25] <MindVirus> Does anyone something that looks pretty to music?
[00:26] <strategy> How is ubuntu pronounced? ooh*boon*two ?
[00:26] <wat> what? how come soundray?
[00:26] <NotDamienGray> Strategy: Yes
[00:26] <SebNaitsabes> MindVirus:  I did not understand your question
[00:26] <strategy> wat, you can accidentally delete something and fsck up your entire ubuntu install
[00:26] <MindVirus> SebNaitsabes, visualizer. Like AVS or Milkdrop in Windows.
[00:26] <strategy> NotDamienGray, thanks =]
[00:26] <SebNaitsabes> MindVirus: a pretty music program?
[00:26] <soundray> wat: strategy has put that very nicely
[00:26] <ph0rensic> guibby: What I did was assign 100 to root 2 to swap and home will install in root
[00:26] <MindVirus> SebNaitsabes, I guess.
[00:27] <strategy> soundray, ty :p
[00:27] <NotDamienGray> Strategy: No problem.
[00:27] <ZeroSerenity> Here's a long question. I have Ubuntu that I use as a live CD. I want to know what I can use to connect to my home machine through SSH and VNC.
[00:27] <SebNaitsabes> MindVirus: you can try Wine  or you can run Windows inside Ubuntu
[00:27] <soundray> Aaskereia: I'm not sure why you are getting a dbus message there
[00:27] <MindVirus> No.
[00:27] <MindVirus> I want something native.
[00:27] <ph0rensic> guibby: Although I have never seperated my root and home dirs before I know there is certainly advantages, although with not much space, you might be better with them combined
[00:27] <SebNaitsabes> MindVirus:   I have a link that maybe will help
[00:27] <ZeroSerenity> Currently I just use puTTY and RealVNC (GUI) to pull this off. What can I use that doesn't need installation on Ubuntu to tunnel the proper port and do VNC?
[00:27] <wat> okay here why I needed to do that i guess, i installed samba and im trying to share a folder but it tells me 'net usershare' returned error 255, etc etc cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. error permision denied and you do not have permission to create a usershare
[00:27] <guibby> So you didn't want your documents on a different partition ph0rensic? In case you wanted to do an upgrade or anything
[00:27] <cheeky> soundray: i managed to get into my usb drive .. through the terminal thnks;but there is something i need to know; i wanna use the grep function .. so like there is a file called cheeky .. so i did a "grep cheeky" and i was in that current directory .. nothing happened when i pressed enter ..i did ctrl C ... did i type the grep funtion wrong ?
[00:28] <Aaskereia> soundray: Because I have a script that uses Dbus to control exaile, which works locally on the machine
[00:28] <wat> so im trying to figure out how to do this so I can share this folder oer my network so my windows PCs can use it etc
[00:28] <strategy> ZeroSerenity, both ssh and vnc clients come preinstalled even with the livecd iirc
[00:28] <Aaqil> hi I got netbeans in .sh extension now how to install link please ?
[00:28] <strategy> Aaqil, dont do that
[00:28] <guibby> Hmmm, good point.
[00:28] <strategy> Aaqil, simply open a new terminal and type: sudo apt-get install netbeans
[00:28] <strategy> Aaqil, in a few minutes, netbeans will be ready to use
[00:28] <Aaqil> strategy: I did sudo apt-get install netbeans before it said package not found
[00:29] <ph0rensic> guibby: Well Im sure it would be better that way...  I'm banned from #php and #apache, even though I've never used those channels.
[00:29] <soundray> cheeky: yes, you have to give it one or more file names to search through. Try 'grep cheeky *' to search all files in the current dir.
[00:29] <ZeroSerenity> strategy: How do I use them to pul off what I want?
[00:29] <strategy> Aaqil, you sure?
[00:29] <guibby> I'm just experimenting mostly, and I want to start to learn how to program and I'd rather do that on linux than windows
[00:29] <strategy> ZeroSerenity, what exactly do you want?
[00:29] <guibby> Most of my media will stay on the windows portion
[00:29] <strategy> ZeroSerenity, i didnt hear you the first time sorry
[00:29] <ph0rensic> guibby: How big is your whole drive?
[00:29] <Aaqil> strategy: yup I was here before and last instruction I got to download .sh file from netbeans web
[00:30] <strategy> Aaqil, interesting. you're running hardy right?
[00:30] <guibby> 80 GB
[00:30] <DjViper> guibby: what sort of programming are you looking to do?
[00:30] <soundray> Aaskereia: okay, got it now. This may not be solvable with ssh -- perhaps you can get a VNC client for your phone and setup remote desktop on the exaile machine?
[00:30] <ph0rensic> guibby: How much is windows currently using?
[00:30] <guibby> Just learning for fun, I want to learn python
[00:30] <ZeroSerenity> Use SSH to tunnel port 5800 so I can use VNC through SSH.
[00:30] <Gosseyn77> someone know a china chat please?
[00:30] <soundray> !cn | Gosseyn77
[00:30] <SebNaitsabes> MindVirus:  42 of the best free Linux audio software  http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20080622143124178/Audio.html
[00:30] <guibby> Almost 45 GB. and 30 GB of that is music
[00:31] <strategy> Aaqil, you should be able to apt-get netbeans..
[00:31] <guibby> I'm reluctant to send all files to linux, because I have an ipod touch
[00:31] <Gosseyn77> soundray ubottu thanks :)
[00:31] <starn> ph0rensic: um i got an image on top but none on bottom why??
[00:31] <strategy> Aaqil, copy and paste this directly: sudo apt-get install netbeans
[00:31] <MindVirus> SebNaitsabes, I need a VISUALIZER.
[00:31] <MindVirus> Something that looks good.
[00:31] <MindVirus> Not something that plays.
[00:32] <cheeky> soundray: so wildstar means present directory ?
[00:32] <Aaskereia> soundray: uh, no, not what I'm looking to do
[00:32] <Aaskereia> thanks anyway
[00:32] <ph0rensic> guibby: hehe ok, so maybe do 60 for win and 20 for linux then give 1 Gig for swap, and 8 for root and 11 for home/?
[00:32] <ph0rensic> starn: Did you set which images to load for cube caps?
[00:32] <SebNaitsabes> MindVirus:  I don't think there is anything, but you can try    http://www.osalt.com  http://www.linuxeq.com  http://www.sf.net and  http://www.freshmeat.net
[00:32] <rcbaxt> Is anyone familiar with the Ruby1.9 package in Ubuntu?
[00:32] <soundray> cheeky: no, by itself, it means 'all files in the present directory'
[00:32] <starn> ph0rensic: yes.
[00:33] <ph0rensic> starn: I wasn't getting any images with mine so I had to add the image path for both
[00:33] <guibby> Why so much for swap?
[00:33] <Aaqil> strategy: yup I am using hardy
[00:33] <MindVirus> SebNaitsabes, thanks anyways.
[00:33] <strategy> Aaqil, interesting. did you copy & paste what i said?
[00:33] <SebNaitsabes> MindVirus: you can find pretty much any LInux program that exists on sf and freshmeat
[00:33] <alfonso> free
[00:33] <ph0rensic> starn: Maybe the bottom image is linked to a non existent file
[00:33] <SebNaitsabes> MindVirus:  searching for audio visulizer or something on those two, could do the trick
[00:34] <Aaqil> strategy:  hey now its working
[00:34] <cheeky> soundray: i wanna copy the a direcotry to my music folder in my / home directory  so would this work " "cp -r music /home/user/music/music"   ?
[00:34] <strategy> Aaqil, probably typo'd before or something :)
[00:34] <alfonso> freenode
[00:34] <ph0rensic> starn: or one without read permissions...
[00:34] <MindVirus> SebNaitsabes, I'm not interested in SF. I want to find if it's in the package manager. If I wanted to get software not in APT I would have gotten it.
[00:34] <alfonso> FreeNode
[00:34] <MindVirus> I should write something.
[00:34] <SebNaitsabes> MindVirus:  I don't think there is in package manager
[00:34] <Aaqil> strategy: now I am downloading before it was saying E package now found etc something like that
[00:34] <starn> ph0rensic: i dont know.. i even tried two images think it is back ground image? some how? seeing how skydome seems to be that.
[00:35] <SebNaitsabes> MindVirus:  ,but sure if you can program write your own for Linux
[00:35] <SebNaitsabes> MindVirus: and lisense under GPL of course :)
[00:35] <MindVirus> Of course.
[00:35] <NotDamienGray> What's a good IRC client that will show up in the programs list? Konversation requires me to run it as root, and it seems that's why I'm banned from some channels.
[00:35] <daggerx> what program do we have that opens publisher docs
[00:36] <jrib> NotDamienGray: konversation does not require you to run it as root...
[00:36] <SebNaitsabes> daggerx:  now that's an interesting one
[00:36] <Odd-rationale> dde1ri01986: none...
[00:36] <daggerx> lol
[00:36] <Odd-rationale> whoops
[00:36] <SebNaitsabes> daggerx:  Open Office can't do it
[00:36] <Odd-rationale> daggerx: none
[00:36] <daggerx> wow
[00:36] <NotDamienGray> jrib: Whenever I don't run it as root I get a lot of errors and it doesn't open.
[00:36] <SebNaitsabes> daggerx: KOffice can't do it,  Scribus can't do it,  they say
[00:36] <Winston_SmithVT> NotDamienGray: irssi
[00:36] <strategy> never run anything as root unless it's absolutely required
[00:36] <jrib> NotDamienGray: pastebin the errors you get
[00:36] <ph0rensic> skydome should be the background beyond the cube .. yah try a different image
[00:36] <SebNaitsabes> daggerx: Scribus say that reverse engingering the publishser format and getting right is one of the hardest things to do, well something on those lines it's on the website
[00:36] <Odd-rationale> daggerx: google for convert .pub to.pdf if you want to view them...
[00:37] <daggerx> ok
[00:37] <guibby> OK, gonna go home and get ready for a night of reloading my hard drive again...Thanks for your help ph0rensic
[00:37] <Aaqil> Hello my sounds are not working with ubuntu
[00:37] <SebNaitsabes> daggerx:  if you really must be able to open and use Publisher documents in Linux there is a way :D  a bit of a crappy way since not native, but it works
[00:37] <NotDamienGray> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m1ad3f84f
[00:37] <soundray> cheeky: no, I think what you want is 'cp -r music /home/user/music/'. That way your music files will be e.g. /home/user/music/music/unchained_melody.mp3
[00:37] <Aaqil> Rolls 2 6-sided dice: 1 1
[00:37] <SebNaitsabes> daggerx: that's right you can run Publisher under Wine
[00:37] <Odd-rationale> daggerx: but as for editing .pub's... there is no software for linux to do that. unluss msoffice in wine...
[00:37] <daggerx> true
[00:38] <jrib> NotDamienGray: it's exactly because you run things as root that you are having this issue. You have files in your HOME owned as root now
[00:38] <daggerx> or vm and use office right?
[00:38] <soundray> Aaqil: read the troubleshooting info on the help pages and ask again if you get stuck:
[00:38] <SebNaitsabes> daggerx: lol  VM for Offfice lol
[00:38] <jrib> NotDamienGray: do: sudo chown $USER: ~
[00:38] <soundray> !sound > Aaqil
[00:38] <Odd-rationale> daggerx: but we do have apps that are BETTER than publisher... :P
[00:38] <jrib> NotDamienGray: do: sudo chown -R $USER: ~
[00:38] <SebNaitsabes> daggerx: Office 2003 runs rather great under Wine, with the exception of Access and maybe Outlook which sucks
[00:38] <daggerx> scribus
[00:38] <jscinoz> gah
[00:38] <SebNaitsabes> daggerx:  not sure about Office 2007, but I think that works pretty well under Wine to
[00:39] <jscinoz> getting openarena to work through my schools proxy is hard
[00:39] <NotDamienGray> jrib: Done, but I still get those errors.
[00:39] <jscinoz> atm im trying this:
[00:39] <daggerx> but this doc that i need to view is .pub so ill convert it to pdf and see what happens i guess
[00:39] <cheeky> soundray: i wanna copy that folder to another folder named music under the music folder !
[00:39] <jrib> NotDamienGray: did you run my second command?  As my first one was wrong
[00:39] <cheeky> soundray: is that posiible ?
[00:39] <jscinoz> socksify openarena > port 1080 localforwarded over ssh (through school's msproxy) to home box running danted > intertubes
[00:39] <NotDamienGray> jrib: Okay, that outputs: "chown: cannot access `/home/damien/.gvfs': Permission denied"
[00:40] <SebNaitsabes> daggerx:  Microsoft publisher document viewer in Wine?
[00:40] <SebNaitsabes> daggerx: if you don't need to edit them, that will do the trick
[00:40] <soundray> cheeky: sure -- but do you really want "/home/user/music/music/music/unchained_melody.mp3" -- three nested folders with the same name?
[00:40] <jrib> NotDamienGray: paste the command you ran here
[00:40] <daggerx> ok kool thx
[00:40] <NotDamienGray> jrib: sudo chown -R $USER: ~
[00:41] <jrib> NotDamienGray: what does 'ls -ld /home/damien/.kde{,share}' return now?
[00:41] <xteejx> Hi peeps I'm having serious lock-up problems with wireless can someone have a look at bug 269193 for me please? Or if you know how to change the TX power to lower it I'd appreciatethat, its a Realtek 8187
[00:41] <jrib> NotDamienGray: what does 'ls -ld /home/damien/.kde{,/share}' return now?
[00:41] <SebNaitsabes> daggerx: Microsoft Office publisher doucment viewer yeah, or wahtever it's called for just viewing.  and  you can do Publisher 2003 under Wine as I said
[00:41] <Slade> is ubottu's learn script publicly available?
[00:41] <SebNaitsabes> for editing
[00:41] <Slade> ubottu
[00:41] <NotDamienGray> jrib:
[00:41] <NotDamienGray> ls: cannot access /home/damien/.kdeshare: No such file or directory
[00:41] <NotDamienGray> drwx------ 6 damien damien 4096 2008-08-21 23:27 /home/damien/.kde
[00:41] <Slade> .ubottu
[00:41] <snadge> why does an update show up for k3b that it wont let me tick to install?
[00:41] <cheeky> soundray:  true lol..but see like the folder was my back up music and within that i have more albums andstuff so iam like trying to use cli to organise these files at the same time famelirizing my self with linux
[00:41] <daggerx> sweet
[00:41] <jrib> NotDamienGray: and the second command?  use pastebin
[00:42] <jrib> Slade: search for the ubuntu bots project on launchpad.net
[00:42] <Thebanman> Hello
[00:42] <soundray> cheeky: okay -- good way to learn probably
[00:42] <bancai> hello, i am new to linux, I see sometime, that when people offering some compiled linux binary to download, they offered in many version, like for fedora, suse, etc. cant one universal binary be used for all linux distro?
[00:42] <Thebanman> Can i have a windows xp linux mixed osx ?
[00:42] <NotDamienGray> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m2125f710
[00:42] <SebNaitsabes> bancai:  they are working on stuff like that I think, however most programs you can get as a Deb
[00:43] <jscinoz> Thebanman, what do you mean? like triple boot?
[00:43] <xteejx> Thebanman: If you can make it I'm sure people wouldn't buy it lol this is linux
[00:43] <bancai> SebNaitsabes, what do you mean by working on stuff like that?
[00:43] <cheeky> soundray: i hope so ;someo mentioned about a file system manager .. were they talking aboutit ..like its run in cli ?
[00:43] <jrib> NotDamienGray: I don't know why you are getting an error on .gvfs, but I think everything else went okay.  Try running konversation now.  You probably want to log out and log back in anyway though
[00:43] <SebNaitsabes> btancai:   tar.gz  is  for like any distro
[00:43] <NotDamienGray> jrib: Alright, I'll do that as soon as I'm done compiling open office.
[00:43] <SebNaitsabes> btancai:  then we got t he Deb for  Debian based and RPM for Redhat based
[00:44] <jrib> NotDamienGray: why compile it?  It's packaged in the repositories
[00:44] <soundray> cheeky: I've heard about one called midnight commander or mc -- no personal experience here
[00:44] <xteejx> bug 269193 anyone any ideas please?
[00:44] <Thebanman> No i mean 1 that was created by bill gates
[00:44] <NotDamienGray> jrib: I wanted to see if it really takes as long as people say.
[00:44] <yaddle> What is the name of the terminal window application? Like if I needed to provide a program with the path to the terminal window application so it could launch a terminal window for me, what would I specify the path as?
[00:44] <jrib> NotDamienGray: heh
[00:44] <soundray> !info mc | cheeky
[00:44] <bancai> SebNaitsabes, there is programm.linux.tar.gz and programm.fc.tar.gz for fedora core for example. why cant fedora just use the universal one?
[00:44] <SebNaitsabes> Thebanman:   OSX  can run on a PC yes, but  that's not perfect.   uhmmmmm  you can run WIndows inside Linux
[00:44] <Thebanman> So it works properly because linux wont let me game
[00:45] <jrib> NotDamienGray: make sure you use gksu or kdesu when you need to launch a gui app as root from now on, but you should really never need to
[00:45] <cheeky> soundray:  so you  u just navigate and manage files ..using nomal cli and assinging variables and using the alias command to make life easier .. with no cli file manager ?
[00:45] <Aaqil> hello I am using Intel AC97 and my sounds are not working
[00:45] <strategy> windows is such a resource hog..
[00:45] <NotDamienGray> jrib: Alright, thanks.
[00:45] <SebNaitsabes> bancai:  well   there might be some distro specific stuff in that tar.gz , but usaully sites for programs wil have tar.gaz for all distros
[00:46] <SebNaitsabes> Aaqil: not even a start up sound?
[00:46] <bancai> SebNaitsabes, yes, there is a tar.gz for all distro, i just wondering why there is a special one for fc
[00:46] <soundray> cheeky: me personally? Yes, I get by without a file manager. I use the history extensively (Arrow up, Ctrl-R searchstring) and tab completion.
[00:46] <soundray> !tab | cheeky
[00:46] <Thebanman> What about letting bill gates make a linux would that not be cool
[00:46] <SebNaitsabes> bancai: as I said maybe stuff in that one that is only for Fedora
[00:46] <LBIguy_> how come when i install flash player the videos on youtube still won't work
[00:46] <Thebanman> then i can game
[00:47] <Aaqil> SebNaitsabes: nope :(
[00:47] <bancai> SebNaitsabes, and besides, if the binary is pre-compiled, how can it be used for others distro? wont you get dependency errs?
[00:47] <jrib> LBIguy_: did you restart your browser?
[00:47] <SebNaitsabes> Thebanman:  http://www.reactos.org  that's very alpha quality now so barely useable, but that will be an open source version of WIndows basically.
[00:47] <SebNaitsabes> Thebanman:  3D games or non 3D?
[00:47] <LBIguy_> jrib u mean close it off and start it again yes
[00:47] <cheeky> soundray: yeah its cool like an art .. you create a your own unique ride to goaround the system :-[
[00:47] <jrib> LBIguy_: what does this command return: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree mozilla-plugin-gnash
[00:47] <Thebanman> 3d games like world of warcraft cod css qauke
[00:47] <soundray> ls
[00:48] <Thebanman> things like that
[00:48] <jrib> soundray: . ..
[00:48] <SebNaitsabes> bancai:  well if it's a RPM for  Fedora  you can convert that to Deb with Alien or whatever
[00:48] <bancai> SebNaitsabes, it is a binary
[00:48] <filius> good night
[00:48] <soundray> jrib: oh no! Where did my unfinished novel go! :)
[00:48] <bancai> SebNaitsabes, an executable binary
[00:48] <yaddle> Does anyone know the path to the Terminal Window Application?
[00:48] <yaddle> file path*
[00:48] <jscinoz> brb
[00:49] <Thebanman> I have wine but is sucks
[00:49] <Thebanman> it
[00:49] <LBIguy_> mozilla-plugin-gnash:
[00:49] <LBIguy_>   Installed: (none)
[00:49] <LBIguy_>   Candidate: 0.8.2-0ubuntu3
[00:49] <LBIguy_>   Version table:
[00:49] <LBIguy_>      0.8.2-0ubuntu3 0
[00:49] <FloodBot1> LBIguy_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:49] <jrib> yaddle: type 'which gnome-terminal' in a terminal
[00:49] <SebNaitsabes> Thebanman:  I think WOW will run in Wine.  not sure.   you can find out about games in WIne at #winehq  ,but I was told that Worms 3D will work for example, but have not tested
[00:49] <yaddle> jrib: thanks
[00:49] <benjick> Thebanman: I run wow thru wine
[00:49] <danielm_mc> wine?  no cedega?
[00:50] <Thebanman> Ye wow and css wurks but americas army does not
[00:50] <benjick> danielm_mc: Never tried
[00:50] <Thebanman> and other games
[00:50] <SebNaitsabes> I think you can probably get Americas Army working as well try #winehq
[00:50] <danielm_mc> yeah cedega has a much better influence
[00:50] <Thebanman> cedega is ever worst
[00:50] <biggerfisch> does anyone know how to play a mp3 with amarok?
[00:50] <wers> I lost my usplash theme. now, whenever I boot, all I see is pure terminal. any idea?
[00:50] <SebNaitsabes> biggerfisch: before MP3's even play on Ubuntu,  you need to install the propritary codec for them
[00:50] <benjick> Thebanman: Check out http://appdb.winehq.org/
[00:51] <filius> you help me, pleases
[00:51] <amenado2> wers did you remove the splash option on your menu.lst ?
[00:51] <Qster> is there a way to vnc to my remote desktop on a different user without disturbing another already logged in session?
[00:51] <biggerfisch> SebNaitsabes: how do i do that?
[00:51] <jrib> LBIguy_: you need to pastebin the full output (paste.ubuntu.com)
[00:51] <wers> nope
[00:51] <filius> hello benjick
[00:51] <filius> can you help me?
[00:51] <benjick> filius: Err?
[00:51] <SebNaitsabes> biggerfisch:  click on the MP3  and I think it might come up asking you to install the coded
[00:51] <SebNaitsabes> codec
[00:51] <benjick> filius: State your question in the channel
[00:52] <Aaqil> intel ac 97 audio problem no system audio. just system beep.
[00:52] <filius> no
[00:52] <biggerfisch> SebNaitsabes: let me try
[00:52] <benjick> Why not?
[00:52] <IndyGunFreak> !medibuntu | biggerfisch you can also add the medibuntu repository, and install w32codecs
[00:52] <filius> wait a moment please
[00:52] <Odd-rationale> biggerfisch: or just: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:52] <soundray> !ccsm | filius
[00:52] <benjick> Then why ask for help when you dont want it?
[00:52] <biggerfisch> Thank you
[00:53] <wers> amenado2, i cant see any splash option here. what line do I add?
[00:53] <jscinoz> hi, I'm trying to set up a vpn connection from a machine inside a restrictive firewall (only 80 and 443 TCP allowed) to a machine outside with full access. I have ssh access to this machine on port 443, and i'm wondering what would be the best way to do this?
[00:53] <filius> how can i see the ips connecteds to my pc?
[00:54] <filius> i have UBUNTU 8.01.1
[00:54] <soundray> filius: open a terminal and run 'ifconfig'
[00:54] <jscinoz> i could install openvpn on the remote server then just localforward its port, and on the restricted machine connect to localhost:openvpnport, but i noticed ssh has this -w option which seems to be a VPN of sorts
[00:54] <soundray> filius: there is no such version
[00:54] <amenado2> wers-> nothing like   ro quiet splash  at the kernel line?
[00:54] <jscinoz> where can i fidn more information on this
[00:54] <Qster> is there a way to vnc to my remote desktop on a different user without disturbing another already logged in session?
[00:54] <Swish> filius:  netstat -n
[00:55] <benjick> Qster: That's not what VNC do
[00:55] <wers> oh yah. thanks, amenado2 :D
[00:55] <Qster> benjick: well is there anything that does? :P
[00:55] <jscinoz> Qster, which vncserver is being used?
[00:55] <SebNaitsabes> Qster:  maybe, but have a look at this site http://www.nomachine.com  I still haven't figured out how to use this yet as such, but  I was able to use it to  get into  another account on this computer  using LAN.
[00:55] <jscinoz> BAD
[00:55] <jscinoz> nomachine = free as in beer, not free as in speech
[00:55] <starn> what is the "super" key??
[00:55] <filius> thanks, Swish
[00:56] <jscinoz> starn, windows key
[00:56] <Swish> welcome filius
[00:56] <filius> but i dont want see it so
[00:56] <Qster> jscinoz the one that comes with ubuntu
[00:56] <jscinoz> Qster, ie you configured it thorugh system > preferences > remote desktop?
[00:56] <SebNaitsabes> jsinoz: are you trying  to say it's propritary?
[00:56] <jscinoz> yes!
[00:56] <filius> i wanna see real ips
[00:56] <jscinoz> :P
[00:56] <starn> jscinoz: windows key? super? thats funny.. seeing how in windows it cuases me pain...
[00:56] <Qster> jscinoz yes
[00:57] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz: so what :D   VNC is  insecure unless it's some how tunnled over SSH
[00:57] <benjick> starn: Well, windows adapted the superkey and made it the windows key
[00:57] <jscinoz> Qster, one moment theres another you can install in synaptic that starts its own session
[00:57] <amenado2> Qster-> what do you want done? you want another user to control your desktop?
[00:57] <Qster> jscinoz wow thanks :)
[00:57] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, yeah VNCoverSSH is pretty much required :P
[00:57] <Thebanman> Is there a linux special for trolls ?
[00:57] <starn> benjick: oh... and turned it into the worst thing ever? ;) anyways ty guys.
[00:57] <filius> Hello Swish
[00:57] <benjick> starn: Hehe
[00:57] <Qster> no amenado2 i want to log into my remote desktop on another user
[00:57] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz: do you know how to do it?   Ubuntu to Ubuntu and  Ubuntu to WIndows.  and for that matter Windows to Ubuntu
[00:58] <amenado2> Qster that does not jive, my remote desktop and another user?
[00:58] <jscinoz> Q_Contoxicated, vnc4server in the repository should do it
[00:58] <NotDamienGray> starn: Windows key.
[00:58] <Odd-rationale> SebNaitsabes: even nomachine cannot do windows --> ubuntu...
[00:58] <jscinoz> Qster, but there is no shiny GUI to configure it so you will have to consult the man pages and config files
[00:58] <NotDamienGray> starn: nevermind, my text was scrolled up a bit.
[00:58] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, VNC over ssh you want?
[00:58] <SebNaitsabes> Odd-rationale: you have used nomachine then?
[00:58] <Qster> jscinoz ok ill give it a try
[00:58] <benjick> I guess you want something like windows terminal server?
[00:58] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz: yeah and with listening. so the noobs don't have to open a port
[00:58] <Odd-rationale> SebNaitsabes: sometime ago... but yes...
[00:59] <filius> hello benjick
[00:59] <filius> how are you?
[00:59] <benjick> filius: Why are you turning to me?
[00:59] <benjick> filius: I'm good. But this is no place for chat :P
[00:59] <filius> but i wanna know anythings
[01:00] <benjick> About?
[01:00] <amenado2> Odd-rationale-> umm you can use vnc or freenx from windows to ubuntu
[01:00] <Odd-rationale> amenado2: i meant windows server. linux client...
[01:00] <filius> i wanna see the ips connected in my red
[01:00] <SebNaitsabes> amenado2:  yeah freenx  that's what nomachine uses?
[01:01] <Odd-rationale> SebNaitsabes: freenx is the open implementeation of nxserver
[01:01] <filius> but i wanna see it real ips
[01:01] <benjick> filius: In your red?
[01:01] <benjick> What's that :P
[01:01] <amenado2> SebNaitsabes-> per Odd-rationale
[01:01] <filius> yeah
[01:01] <jscinoz> ARGH
[01:01] <filius> the IPs connected in my red
[01:02] <jscinoz> school pwnt my tunnel
[01:02] <filius> or network
[01:02] <filius> i am sorry
[01:02] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, did you get the things i said about VNC over ssh?
[01:02] <SebNaitsabes> I don't really care how I do it just as long as it's secure.  so  listening.   they connect to me  use my open port which then shows  me and lets me control their desktop.   and at times maybe I want to let someone connect into my Ubuntu box securely.  from either Windows or Linux
[01:02] <filius> i speak spanish
[01:02] <jscinoz> and Qster did vnc4server work
[01:02] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz: no I did not
[01:02] <soundray> filius: there are Spanish channels:
[01:02] <soundray> !es | filius
[01:03] <SebNaitsabes> yep listening/reverse connecting so noobs don't have to open ports
[01:03] <Qster> jscinoz: i believe it will if i can figure it out :)
[01:03] <filius> thanks
[01:03] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, Ubuntu client to any server all you do is ssh to the remote box with the option -L SOMEPORT:localhost:VNCPORT, then in your vnc client, connect to localhost:SOMEPORT, which forwards to the box you are ssh'd to, on whatever you said for VNCPORT
[01:03] <jscinoz> Qster, ok good luck :)
[01:03] <Qster> jscinoz: thanks for your help
[01:03] <aTypical> Hi, all.  I'd like to install ubuntu, but only have a 7.10 disc.  If I use that will a dist-upgrade bring me current?  I would download and burn, but don't have any discs.
[01:03] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz: on WIndows they seem to need putty so that SSH can be used.  and then to set up some sort of port forwarding in that
[01:04] <benjick> SebNaitsabes: You can use putty to tunnel traffic
[01:04] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, is windows the server or client?
[01:04] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, in putty, you can configure tunnels the same way, just go to tunnels, then make a local tunnel with SOMEPORT:localhost:VNCPORT
[01:04] <craigbass1976> Is there something different about hardy as far as ethernet goes?  I'm running xub hardy on a box that worked fine way back in the days of RH 7.3.  Router shows something is plugged in
[01:04] <SebNaitsabes> the one that is being connected to is the server yes?  so  the server
[01:04] <soundray> aTypical: yes, you can do that. There are ways of installing without a disk, though:
[01:04] <craigbass1976> and the ethernet card is lit up
[01:04] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, ok does this server have ssh running?
[01:04] <soundray> !install | aTypical
[01:05] <amenado2> aTypical-> you can use that, then you can use debootstrap to load the newer..and pkagaes after..i dont suggest upgrading, people had difficulty time with upgrades..dont know why
[01:05] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, if its windows server, you need to get openssh for windows
[01:05] <jake> Anything that is supposed to be see thru is showing a different than my desktop. It's ruining my themes and I can't figure out where this image was set to display.
[01:05] <bluefox83> ssh is being such a pain D:
[01:06] <soundray> amenado2: most such difficulties arise from modifications of the gutsy install. A freshly installed gutsy will upgrade cleanly
[01:06] <bert1> hi, is there a way to display image size in list view in nautilus??
[01:06] <amenado2> aTypical-> just an fyi, a debootstrap installs the base, then installing the packages to complete it
[01:06] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz:  what I want.   Windows/Linux noob to  connect to my open port which is listening.   then there computer loads up on mine.  and for that to be done securely.   I also would like Windows/lLinux noob or someone to maybe  connect to my computer, but securely.
[01:07] <Aaqil> hi after enabling BOT I am getting this message again and again on every installation http://paste.ubuntu.com/45995/
[01:07] <amenado2> soundray oh okay cool..i guess off the bat people tend to do an update that modifies and then do an upgrade..
[01:07] <aTypical> Thank you, soundray and amenado2.  I think a discless install would be cool.  I'll read the link.
[01:07] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, alright, just to make sure i understand what you want. you have people using windows or linux, connecting to a VNC server running on a windows box?
[01:07] <tuxice> where can i download ubottu
[01:07] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, is this correct?
[01:07] <tuxice> source code
[01:08] <kitche> think it's a supybot
[01:08] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz:  a listening vnc server I guess it is
[01:08] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, and the vnc server is on windows?
[01:08] <SebNaitsabes> yes
[01:08] <kitche> tuxice: yep a supybot
[01:08] <SebNaitsabes> or Ubuntu
[01:08] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, ok, and i assume you need to do it over a ssh tunnel since the VNC servre you're using doesnt have built in SSL support?
[01:09] <tuxice> can i download
[01:09] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz:  I can give you a link for what I have been doing,  when it came to Ubuntu to Ubuntu, but that's not the secure way
[01:09] <soundray> SebNaitsabes: make sure your users know when you are connecting to their machines remotely
[01:10] <SebNaitsabes> soundray:  yes they know
[01:10] <SebNaitsabes> soundray: they have to accept the connection in fact
[01:10] <SebNaitsabes> soundray: by running vnc
[01:10] <jahnkeanater> can i have php run commands in terminla
[01:10] <kitche> tuxice: yes supybot.com
[01:10] <tuxice> is it possible to download ubottu
[01:10] <soundray> SebNaitsabes: just an aside
[01:10] <jahnkeanater> terminal
[01:10] <jrib> tuxice: search for the ubuntu bots project on launchpad.net
[01:11] <jahnkeanater> i want to have a way to turn off my server remotly
[01:11] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, what i think youcould try is, install putty on the client machines, make the configuration to connect to the windows server running openssh, then set up bookmarks in the vnc client to connect to localhost:VNCport this would make it easy for the users
[01:12] <jscinoz> and the ubuntu users, just set out the details for the host in ~/.ssh/config then just make a script that connects to that ssh host, then runs vncviewer localhost:VNCPORT
[01:12] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz: yeah exactly it should be easy for the people being remote connected
[01:12] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, althugh if you can find a vnc server that has built in encryption
[01:12] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz: however what your saying I do not know how to do
[01:12] <jscinoz> itd probably be a lot easier
[01:12] <jscinoz> since you dont really need the ssh tunnel then
[01:12] <Moonlapse> hi
[01:13] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz: that's what I thought http://www.nomachine.com basically was, a way to do SSH securely
[01:13] <SebNaitsabes> with VNC
[01:13] <soundray> jahnkeanater: install sshd, then you can run    ssh user@remote 'sudo shutdown -h now'
[01:13] <bert1> hi, is there a room here for nautilus questions?
[01:13] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, i believe it is just a VNC server with built in encryption
[01:13] <jscinoz> and has a custom vnc client with encryption support
[01:13] <soundray> bert1: not specifically. Try and ask here
[01:13] <bert1> ok...
[01:14] <bert1> hi, is there a way to display image size in list view in nautilus??
[01:14] <sjea> hi all
[01:14] <sjea> !firewall
[01:15] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz:  well  I told you what I want and you seem to understand that, but  problem is I am not at all sure how to  acheive  all that securely
[01:15] <Scunizi> I've put a couple of "drawers" on my upper panel.  Does anyone know of a way to auto populate a drawer with directory links that are inside of another directory?
[01:15] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, give me a moment to have a look at if nomachine does what you want
[01:15] <sjea> how do i turn off the internal firewall?
[01:15] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz:  ok sure thanks
[01:15] <sjea> let my router do all the work
[01:16] <SebNaitsabes> sjea: it's a good idea to have a software firewall so the one built into Ubuntu
[01:17] <SebNaitsabes> sjea: as well as hardware so your router
[01:17] <Scunizi> sjea: not a good idea.. because your router doesn't "do all the work" that it is suppose to.  Although most are very good.
[01:17] <soundray> bert1: I don't think so. It may be possible to extend nautilus with a script. I usually run 'jpeginfo *.jpg' or 'file *.png' in a terminal
[01:18] <bert1> soundray what i want to do is this...
[01:18] <sjea> humm ok ic what i trying to do is a few things torrents and remote admin? but not sure how i have firestarter but seames like i allways have to start it up every time i turn it on
[01:18] <bert1> i have a large folder of wallpapers, and i need to sort the in to folders of there image sizes...
[01:19] <bert1> *them
[01:19] <eightyeight> should /etc/hostname contain the fqdn for your domain, or just the sub?
[01:19] <bert1> but i cant find a way to achieve this...
[01:19] <SebNaitsabes> bert1: I think you can just do that in the file manager
[01:19] <soundray> bert1: what image format are they?
[01:19] <bert1> SebNaitsabes, how so?? there is no coloum...
[01:19] <craigbass1976> Oh man, all sorts of others have this trouble and it only "might" get fixed in Intrepid...
[01:19] <SebNaitsabes> bert1:  yes open your image folder.  and there should be the size colum and you press size and it does it
[01:20] <bert1> soundray, a mixture of jpg and png
[01:20] <bert1> SebNaitsabes, i mean "image" size, not file size
[01:20] <soundray> SebNaitsabes: I think bert1 means the image dimensions, not the file sizes
[01:20] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, Im not sure but nomachien NXservre should work
[01:21] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz: ok what do I need to do?
[01:21] <bert1> ive been happy with ubuntu so far, can;t believe i've been stomped on such a simple exercise... :(
[01:21] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz: and what does the other person need to do as well, but yeah my end first :)
[01:22] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz: maybe we can test this together also
[01:22] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, it looks like the NXserver is linux only
[01:22] <jahnkeanater> waht do i have to do to get sshd runing
[01:22] <soundray> bert1: it's not simple. Remember, nautilus is a general purpose file manager, not an image manager
[01:22] <jahnkeanater> what
[01:22] <jscinoz> and i believe you wanted them to be connecting to a indows desktop?
[01:22] <bluefox83> ok, who wants to help me ssh into my own box at home? i'm at work
[01:22] <SebNaitsabes> jahnkeanater:  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:22] <bert1> soundray, yeah its looking that way... I guess i need to find an app to do it...
[01:23] <soundray> bert1: either that, or do it in the terminal
[01:23] <soundray> bert1: how many files need sorting?
[01:23] <bert1> about 150 lol
[01:23] <bert1> soundray, ^^^
[01:23] <bluefox83> i'm going to be a little peeved if i find out i can't ssh into my own box from work because my work firewall wont allow it >.>
[01:23] <soundray> bert1: and how many different sizes are there?
[01:23] <jahnkeanater> im wondering how that will work
[01:23] <SebNaitsabes> jscinoz: well knowing how to Linux to Linux securely  with  NXserver is a start I guess
[01:23] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, i cant talk for long, im actually at school now :P i have an exam in 2hrs so i must study some :P
[01:24] <jahnkeanater> i installed it in synaptic im googleing it now
[01:24] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if you have any issues and ill try help you when i get home after exam
[01:24] <jscinoz> SebNaitsabes, linux-to-linux i'd still recommend ssh+vpn
[01:24] <jscinoz> bye for now :)
[01:24] <bert1> mainly 1280x800 - 1440x900 - 1650x1050 & 1920x1200... soundray
[01:24] <overlordpuppy> I need help getting the right drivers for my ati card.
[01:24] <Aaqil> How to upgrade pidgin ?
[01:24] <SebNaitsabes> it will on it's own
[01:24] <SebNaitsabes> if the updates are on
[01:25] <Odd-rationale> Aaqil: try getdeb.net
[01:25]  * bluefox83 is wondering if he's going to have to set up a vpn server on his home machine -_-
[01:25] <SebNaitsabes> who is he? me?
[01:25] <bluefox83> me
[01:25] <bluefox83> i'm trying to ssh into my linux box at home, but i'm at work
[01:25] <bluefox83> work/college
[01:25] <Moonlapse> Anyone using a Radeon HD 4870 having trouble running any games under wine?
[01:25] <craigbass1976> bluefox83, it's not working?
[01:26] <Moonlapse> Even starcraft isnt working for me. It just bugs out
[01:26] <bluefox83> and when i try to ssh in (or anyone tries to for that matter) it just times out
[01:26] <soundray> bert1: okay, here's a sample procedure for moving png files that are 1280x800 in size:
[01:26] <cheeky> has anyone able to connect their usb camera to pidgin?
[01:26] <craigbass1976> bluefox83, have you set up openssh-server?  Is there a hole (22) in your router?
[01:26] <SebNaitsabes> cheeky: you mean web cam?
[01:26] <bluefox83> craigbass1976, yes and yes
[01:27] <cheeky> SebNaitsabes: yeas sorry my bad
[01:27] <SebNaitsabes> cheeky:  Pidgin does not suppourt web cam at the moment,  but  AMSN does, and I think Kmess as well
[01:27] <craigbass1976> bluefox83, do you have static ip at home?
[01:27] <bluefox83> i would really like to know why the heck the pidgin people are still dragging their feet on webcam support >.>
[01:27] <kitche> bluefox83: because they don't want it most likely
[01:27] <craigbass1976> bluefox83, too many pedofiles out there...
[01:27] <cheeky> SebNaitsabes: does ksm ..like cauze system to act the new ubuntu  or still testing stages?
[01:27] <soundray> bert1: create the target folder with 'mkdir 1280x800', then run    file *.png | grep "1280 x 800" | cut -f : -d 1 | xargs -i cp '{}' 1280x800/
[01:27] <bluefox83> craigbass1976, the machine i'm ssh'ing into does...and i can connect to the router so that much should work
[01:27] <SebNaitsabes> bluefox83: well I upgraded Pidgin yesterday,  and :)  at last can see peoples MSN  display names and what they are listening to
[01:28] <Aaqil> can I get email notifiers in ubuntu ? like gmail notifier etc pop3 mail notifier
[01:28] <SebNaitsabes> cheeky: I did not understand
[01:28] <bert1> ok soundray i am going to give it a try now...
[01:28] <craigbass1976> bluefox83, can you ssh into it from another box in the house where the computer is?
[01:28] <cheeky> SebNaitsabes: no m8 nvm
[01:28] <bluefox83> craigbass1976, yep
[01:29] <craigbass1976> bluefox83, fwah....
[01:29] <SebNaitsabes> cheeky:  as for the new Ubuntu, I woudn't recommend upgrading untill at least Beta
[01:29] <bluefox83> i *think* i need to reset the router...we had a power outage recently...i think it just needs to be restarted
[01:29] <bluefox83> that's just a guess though >.>
[01:29] <craigbass1976> bluefox83, what about the static ip?
[01:29] <cheeky> SebNaitsabes: i think i already have the new beta you mean hardy right ?
[01:29] <bert1> sorry soundray, i presume i put the path to the images before the "*.png" ???
[01:29] <SebNaitsabes> cheeky:   lol no that's the stable
[01:29] <ZeroSerenity> More questions. How can you go out of the GUI compoent and back to strictly command line?
[01:30] <craigbass1976> ZeroSerenity, Ctrl+Alt+F1
[01:30] <soundray> bert1: no, you should cd to the source folder first
[01:30] <craigbass1976> ZeroSerenity, F1 through F6 I think are each terminals
[01:30] <cheeky> SebNaitsabes: snap my bad
[01:30] <bluefox83> craigbass1976, what about it's static ip? it's one i set on the box itself, the modem though is cable...so i do have a dynamic ip..it just takes a while to change
[01:30] <soundray> bert1: if you don't, the command will have to be adapted
[01:30] <Augie> hi all
[01:30] <Thoku> Hey all
[01:30] <ZeroSerenity> Does that close Gnome though?
[01:30] <cheeky> SUp
[01:30] <SebNaitsabes> cheeky:  Ubuntu goes through many testing stages before a final stable release comes out.  the releases are October and April
[01:31] <SebNaitsabes> cheeky: unless something is delayed, which happended with some previous version which then came out in June
[01:31] <craigbass1976> bluefox83, can you confirm somehow that the address you're loggin into is in fact the public ip of your house?
[01:31] <cheeky> so like next month wow those cyles are months apart
[01:31] <craigbass1976> bluefox83, have someone on the other end go to whatismyip.com ?
[01:31] <Augie> i'm gonna install ubuntu, but last time i did i had to use the alternate cd, because of some problems with my ati x1400 card (laptop), i wanna know if it's still there so i can decide which cd to download
[01:31] <SebNaitsabes> cheeky:  ,but I like to get next Ubuntu a bit early,  but not to early I did that once with a previous
[01:31] <Thoku> I let iTunes reorganise my music, now it can't be indexed by Rythmnbox. This a known issue?
[01:32] <cheeky> thats the beuty of this ... it grows with humanity evolves asit does ... mutual worls
[01:32] <cheeky> i love it
[01:32] <noname12>  I have two computers, each with its own monitor.  I would like to use the same keyboard and mouse for both machines, without using a switch box.  Anyone know what software is available for doing this?
[01:32] <SebNaitsabes> cheeky: alpha is like  testing developers only and really early adopters.   Beta is like this is a preview of what is to come
[01:32] <bluefox83> craigbass1976, i logged into my router just fine
[01:32] <SebNaitsabes> cheeky:  then the release candiates and the final release.  take Firefox 3 for example  the 3rd RC was the same as the final
[01:32] <soundray> SebNaitsabes: no, generally alpha means "incomplete", and beta means "feature complete, but insufficiently tested"
[01:33] <craigbass1976> bluefox83, oh yeah, forgot that.
[01:33] <SebNaitsabes> cheeky: well what soundray say
[01:33] <SebNaitsabes> said
[01:33] <jahnkeanater> how do i run it
[01:33] <craigbass1976> bluefox83, did it give your ubuntu box an ip lately?
[01:33] <Thoku> SebNaitsabes: Does running on "unstable" give you the next release automatically when it enters beta? Or is unstable, just running unstable updates for the current release and therefore hardly any features included.
[01:33] <jahnkeanater> sshd i installed it but what do i do now
[01:33] <bluefox83> craigbass1976, i dunno...we used it to print this morning...
[01:33] <cheeky> SebNaitsabes: wickd m8 solike you could take your home directory somwhere else and keep installing different ubuntu to check out
[01:33] <soundray> bert1: for the jpeg files, you need to 'sudo apt-get install jpeginfo' and modify the command somewhat
[01:34] <SebNaitsabes> cheeky:  the safest way to try the next Ubuntu, would be a virtual machine inside your stable Ubuntu
[01:34] <craigbass1976> bluefox83, I'm out of ideas, unless someone can put their hands on it
[01:34] <bert1> ok soundray im try this now
[01:34] <Qster> jscinoz: your awsome it works :)
[01:34] <craigbass1976> Anyone know how to instal dans web guardian on a stock install of xubuntu?  Is there a repo I've got to enable?
[01:34] <ZeroSerenity> Next question. How can I connect to a wireless network that has a hidden SSID?
[01:34] <cheeky> SebNaitsabes: nice
[01:34] <soundray> bert1: jpeginfo | grep "1280 x 800" | cut -f " " -d 1 | xargs -i cp '{}' 1280x800/
[01:34] <bluefox83> craigbass1976, when i get home, i'm gonna do an old-fashioned unplug and see if that doesn't gel better ;)
[01:34] <cheeky> SebNaitsabes: i have a lt to leanr b4 i could do that
[01:34] <soundray> bert1: arrgh, mistake
[01:35] <soundray> bert1: jpeginfo *.png | grep "1280 x 800" | cut -f " " -d 1 | xargs -i cp '{}' 1280x800/
[01:35] <cheeky> SebNaitsabes: does ubuntu have a firewall ?
[01:35] <SebNaitsabes> Thoku: yes  if you  get the unstable.  it should auto update fine untill the final release.  however  that was not quite the case when I got Ubuntu way to early with Gutsy Gibbon.  in fact updates made things worse in the end.   and  I had to just wait untill  the final was nearer.  ,but that's what I got for getting Ubuntu to early as a non developer :D
[01:35] <craigbass1976> bluefox83, try and make it work first though; see if you can figure out what happened.
[01:35] <craigbass1976> cheeky, not by defaut
[01:35] <craigbass1976> cheeky, last I knew, iptables was installed, but not doing anything
[01:35] <soundray> bert1: note, this will create copies rather than moving the files. If the copying works, you can try moving instead -- it will be faster.
[01:35] <cheeky> SebNaitsabes: like i hated windows coz it was flooded with rubbish on the networlk always ...it just soo bad you get used to it .. it drives on nuts i say
[01:36] <bluefox83> craigbass1976, i'm thinking it just needs reset...once it gets reset it should take to new settings a little better
[01:36] <soundray> !firewall | cheeky
[01:36] <Thoku> SebNaitsabes: Ah lol
[01:36] <bluefox83> craigbass1976, sometimes when we have a power outage or a surge it kinda half-boots and then new settings don't work
[01:36] <InHisName> How do I find files in dir and lower that are less than 24 hrs since saving.  find . "and then what"
[01:36] <cheeky> craigbass1976: wa would i need to read in terms of securing my computer .. install iptables?
[01:37] <craigbass1976> bluefox83, ahh.  Got a parrot or something to reboot when this happens?
[01:37] <cheeky> soundray: thnks man
[01:37] <bert1> ok that seems to have worked, thanks soundray =)
[01:37] <X_> anyone understand this error I get when I try to install gparted
[01:37] <X_> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gparted/gparted_0.3.5-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[01:37] <X_>   Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[01:37] <craigbass1976> cheeky, what are you trying to protect?  If you're not running and listening services, then there's not too much you have to worry about
[01:37] <soundray> InHisName: find . -mmin 1440
[01:37] <SebNaitsabes> Thoku:  if  your doing mission critical stuff on your compute probably best to wait untill the final.  if not  the beta should be fine
[01:37] <djhash> what do i need other than build-essentials to compile from source.
[01:37] <bluefox83> no, i usually find out after i need to make a change...and end up having to do it by hand myself...it's ok though i'll be home in half an hour anyways
[01:37] <soundray> InHisName: sorry, mistake
[01:37] <craigbass1976> cheeky, running any, not running and.  sorry
[01:37] <soundray> InHisName: find . -mmin -1440
[01:37] <SebNaitsabes> Thoku: and yes Ubuntu can be upgraded from release to release.
[01:38] <SebNaitsabes> Thoku: no need to re install every time
[01:38] <Thoku> SebNaitsabes: Yeah, its just my desktop machine.
[01:38] <AliTabuger7> x_, I get something similar to that all the time, but yours looks really weird
[01:38] <cheeky> craigbass1976:  just my computer and wirelessconnection
[01:39] <soundray> X_: you seem to have installed a web proxy, but it's not working or not set up correctly.
[01:39] <craigbass1976> cheeky, is your wireless connection already encrypted?
[01:39] <SebNaitsabes> Thoku: some packages in the next one such as Banshee can actsaully get in Hardy
[01:39] <AliTabuger7> x_, it looks like you're using some kond of proxy or something because it is trying to connect to your own computer
[01:39] <soundray> X_: edit /etc/environment and remove the proxy variable setting, then reboot and try again
[01:39] <molgrum> how do i inactivate the ALT+SPACE shortcut in gnome terminal?
[01:39] <Thoku> SebNaitsabes: Ah sweet, so early versions can be picked up individually.
[01:39] <SebNaitsabes> for some programs yes
[01:39] <cheeky> craigbass1976: prewvent adware and pop up rubbish when you cruing on the urge for knowlege .. yourmind was never free from those ads .. h8 windows ...
[01:40] <SebNaitsabes> well it's not really an early version as such.  Hardy is behind with Banshee big time
[01:40] <nickz327> hello
[01:40] <cheeky> craigbass1976: i have no idea
[01:40] <SebNaitsabes> Ubuntu only do security updates you see
[01:40] <nickz327> any of you guys could help me with a flash/java issue
[01:40] <Thoku> SebNaitsabes: Ah so its catching up with the latest version. I see
[01:40] <soundray> molgrum: System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts, scroll down to Window Management-Activate Window Menu. Click on Alt-Space and hit Backspace.
[01:40] <nickz327> firefox crashes when a flash video is loaded
[01:40] <SebNaitsabes> Thoku: so the next version will have later versions.  otherwise it's just security verisons. unless it's something like say Firefox
[01:41] <molgrum> soundray: thanks :)
[01:41] <jahnkeanater> in php if i do exec(sudo shutdown -h now)
[01:41] <SebNaitsabes> Thoku: Ubuntu only does security updates,  unless it's a program like Firefox
[01:41] <jahnkeanater> will that shutdown the server
[01:41] <Thoku> SebNaitsabes: Something really high profile. OK
[01:42] <soundray> nickz327: make sure you don't have conflicting plugins installed. Adobe Flash and gnash, for example.
[01:42] <nickz327> ok
[01:42] <SebNaitsabes> Thoku: Fedora Core for example is more cutting edge since it gets later packages rather soon after stable release
[01:42] <tmapj> can someone help me run a program at startup
[01:42] <soundray> !boot | tmapj
[01:43] <tmapj> no soundray its not that simple
[01:43] <Aeron|mtf> i am trying to use movie player to play a dvd movie "BoogeyMan2" and it says "Error occured: could not read from source" what might have happened?
[01:43] <Aeron|mtf> is there a better program to use than movie player?
[01:43] <Thoku> SebNaitsabes: I guess its finding the right balance between latest features and stability
[01:43] <SebNaitsabes> have you got the codecs for that?
[01:44] <soundray> tmapj: go on then
[01:44] <X_> When your in a gedit, and you can't save something because of root issues, how do i get past that
[01:44] <SebNaitsabes> Thoku:   also  Ubuntu's repo is based on one of the Debian repos. so by the time the final is out,  the repo is already behind with tons of packages
[01:44] <X_> I'm also in root atm too
[01:44] <tmapj> how do you use /etc/rc.local ?
[01:44] <Aeron|mtf> SebNaitsabes, was the codecs question for me?
[01:44] <SebNaitsabes> yes
[01:44] <Aeron|mtf> SebNaitsabes, if so, i have no idea if i have the codecs or not.  newbie here :D
[01:45] <SebNaitsabes> !dvd
[01:45] <soundray> X_: you shouldn't be in root. As user, run 'gksudo filename' to edit "filename" with root privileges
[01:45] <Thoku> SebNaitsabes: Ah I had presumed that just the kernel and lower level stuff like that came directly from debian. But I suppose it makes sense.
[01:45] <SebNaitsabes> MP3 as well before you can play those you need to install the codec for that
[01:46] <sjea> what program would i use to open rar files?
[01:46] <sjea> !rar
[01:46] <soundray> tmapj: 'gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local', insert the command you want to run before the "exit" line
[01:46] <craigbass1976> anyone know why clamav is required for an apt-get install dansguardian ?
[01:46] <craigbass1976> just weird
[01:46] <AaronMT> Question, how come my Gnome-Trash Applet always displays full, yet there are no items inside. How can I fix this?
[01:46] <SebNaitsabes> craigbass1976: ,because it might have a virus :d
[01:46] <craigbass1976> stop... ;)
[01:47] <SebNaitsabes> what's that program for anyway?
[01:47] <Winston_SmithVT> AaronMT: Did you delete files of a usb drive?
[01:47] <AaronMT> @Winston_SmithVT: No.
[01:47] <craigbass1976> proxy type thing.  Trying an easy way to keep my kid off porn sites
[01:47] <strategy> Is it possible to create a custom theme instead of modifying another?
[01:48] <soundray> strategy: it must be possible. Someone has created all those themes, after all
[01:48] <strategy> soundray, :p
[01:48] <Winston_SmithVT> AaronMT: I had the same problem, It was always full. Turns out if you delete files from a USB driver it writes the trash file to the USB drive
[01:48] <SebNaitsabes> craigbass19676:  there's a way I can't remember how,  to block domain names in Firefox pretty easilly also, but your kid if they are clever can use ip address to get round
[01:48] <jrib> strategy: art.gnome.org has a tutorial
[01:48] <strategy> thanks jrib
[01:48] <MTeck> gparted wants me to create a label for a new disk... what labeltype do i pick?
[01:48] <AaronMT> @Winston_SmithVT: What was your method of resolve?
[01:49] <jrib> MTeck: default
[01:49] <MTeck> jrib: msdos?
[01:49] <soundray> tmapj: was I making sense?
[01:49] <jrib> MTeck: yes
[01:49] <soundray> MTeck: yes
[01:49] <MTeck> jrib: ty
[01:49] <Winston_SmithVT> AaronMT: I deleted the trash file off the U?SB drive, it was in a folder on the drive called .trash-1000
[01:49] <MTeck> what is the labeltype?
[01:50] <ion-> I downloaded a program called KDX from http://www.haxial.com/products/kdx/index2.html, and the application is KDXClient.lexe What do I need to open this file?
[01:51] <soundray> MTeck: it's the way the partitioning of the disk is organized.
[01:51] <ckyle> craigbass19676, you can block domain names in firefox by putting them in your /etc/hosts, which is resolved first, and pointing the domain in question to localhost - i do this for doubleclick and a couple of ad sites and it works well.
[01:52] <SebNaitsabes> ckyle:  yeah I thought it was something like that,  there is a site I might block myself :)   since I don't like it poping up on me
[01:52] <ckyle> for /etc/hosts, put in a line like this: <IP_ADDRESS> ad.doubleclick.net
[01:52] <ooooooohhhhhh> ciao a tutti
[01:52] <ooooooohhhhhh> !addon
[01:52] <SebNaitsabes> ckyle: how does it work though?   web server says to Firefox this is the site. system says no not going on that
[01:53] <soundray> MTeck: MSDOS type is standard to the extent that no others play a role on PCs. Macs and Suns have different labeltypes.
[01:53] <ooooooohhhhhh> goodnight
[01:53] <MTeck> soundray: ty
[01:53] <kulawend> Can I run applications designed for KDE in the Gnome environment?
[01:53] <SebNaitsabes> yes
[01:53] <SebNaitsabes> and you don't need the whole of Kubuntu installed either to do it
[01:54] <soundray> kulawend: yes
[01:54] <mourad> hello server French
[01:54] <clint_> im removing firefox but i get an error saying i need to use the synaptic program manager???
[01:54] <mourad> plz
[01:54] <Tulimaq> ion-: ./KDXClient.lexe
[01:54] <soundray> !fr | mourad
[01:54] <kitche> !fr | mourad
[01:54] <clint_> nevermind got it
[01:54] <ckyle> SebNaitsabes, your box will resolve /etc/hosts before using DNS - if it's in /etc/hosts, then it doesn't use DNS.
[01:54] <remu> hey guys, i need some help with my audio, I believe it is an Intel ICH9 family soundcard, I have a stuttering/looping problem, is anyone experienced with that?
[01:55] <kulawend> Can there be any compatibility issues running KDE software in Gnome?
[01:55] <SebNaitsabes> no
[01:55] <pygmymath> ahoy. anyone had issues booting amd_64 version of gutsy on a santa rosa macbook?
[01:55] <ph0rensic> kulawend: You can run kde apps in gnome
[01:56] <SebNaitsabes> ckyle: so website says to Firefox I want to go on this,   Firefox  looks at /etc/hosts  that website is not alloweed.  and blocks the website before  the browser would have otherwise connected to the DNS for the site?
[01:56]  * ph0rensic makes way for the CPT. Captain Jack Sparrow
[01:56] <thirdy> usb or shared folders doesn't work, is there any other way for me to access my files in my xVM?
[01:56] <doojin> hello
[01:56] <deepaksingh> hi...........
[01:56] <clint_> ok guys i updated firefox from ub7 to ub8 and its not the same
[01:56] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy:  which version of Virtualbox?
[01:56] <doojin> I have LG xnote e300 laptop. and the laptop's keyboard doesn't work in linux but only in grub.
[01:56] <clint_> the drop down of the address bar is different
[01:56] <MolePrince> Any ideas why in hardy heron 64, USB/SD copy speeds might vary wildly between 2MB/s and 200KB/s, sometimes dwindling off to nothing?  This happens with almost every USB stick or SD card I've tried.
[01:57] <soundray> doojin: can you get into the BIOS setup?
[01:57] <clint_> anyone?
[01:57] <pygmymath> clint_: updated to firefox 3 from firefox 2?
[01:57] <doojin> I have LG xnote e300 laptop. and the laptop's keyboard doesn't work in linux but only in grub. My usb keyboard works fine in linux. how can I enable laptop keyboard in ubuntu?
[01:57] <AliTabuger7> Mole, what is the source your are copying from
[01:57] <ckyle> SebNaitsabes, it basically repoints the domain to a non-existent web server, so the web site doesn't show. It doesn't say anything like web-site blocked, or anything like that.
[01:57] <doojin> soundray : yes i can
[01:57] <clint_> is that the difference?
[01:57] <clint_> how do i go about doing that?
[01:57] <pygmymath> clint_: ff3 has a lot more detail in the drop down..
[01:57] <SebNaitsabes> ckyle:  so the Internet connection never even connects to that website?
[01:57] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, I have the latest? Using hardy
[01:57] <clint_> yea leme check the verz
[01:57] <doojin> soundray : do you have a solution?
[01:57] <soundray> doojin: is there an option that's called something like "USB legacy mode"?
[01:57] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: did you get it from the repo?
[01:57] <clint_> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:<IP_ADDRESS>) Gecko/2008072820 Firefox/3.0.1
[01:58] <ckyle> SebNaitsabes - correct.
[01:58] <doojin> soundray : I am not sure
[01:58] <clint_> rgr
[01:58] <doojin> soundray : what is that?
[01:58] <pygmymath> clint_: *thumbs up*
[01:58] <clint_> idk if i like that tho
[01:58] <clint_> =\
[01:58] <austin> anyone want to help me?
[01:58] <clint_> i like the other drop down
[01:58] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy:  the one from Ubuntu network is the OSE and does not have support for USB
[01:58] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, yeah I got it using apt-get
[01:58] <clint_> but i can live with it
[01:58] <clint_> using konq anyway now
[01:58] <pygmymath> clint_: i think you can still install ff2 but meh, ff3 is more up to date like
[01:58] <pygmymath> clint_: oooh, integrated :D
[01:58] <soundray> doojin: it makes the BIOS present the input devices to the operating system in a slightly different fashion. Toggling that option may help.
[01:59] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, ok so I'll remove then install the working one?
[01:59] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: you need to go to http://www.virtualbox.org and get the other one.  and set things up like USB if it won't just work that can be a little difficult.  the virtualbox manual is good and there is #vbox
[01:59] <SebNaitsabes> http://www.virtualbox.org :)
[01:59] <doojin> soundray : my laptop keyboard is connected to ACPI. would it work with usb?
[01:59] <dr_willis> connected to acpi?
[01:59] <doojin> yes
[01:59] <soundray> doojin: no, it isn't. ACPI is something else.
[02:00] <doojin> soundray : Is my laptop keyboard a usb keyboard?
[02:00] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, I downloaded VMware-player, installing was very friendly, is it the best virtualization?
[02:00] <dr_willis> built in laptop keyboards are normally usb or ps2
[02:00] <SebNaitsabes> ckyle: sounds good.   that annoying popup can go bye bye then
[02:00] <soundray> doojin: yes, if it's like 99.9% of all laptops produced in the last 3 years
[02:00] <X_> which file system is best for a usb drive that will work on both linux and windows?
[02:00] <pygmymath> ahoy. anyone had issues booting amd_64 version of gutsy on a santa rosa macbook?
[02:00] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: oh VMware player LOL.  vmware player is far from the best.  Virtualbox is  the best probably :)
[02:00] <doojin> soundray : ok
[02:00] <doojin> I try now
[02:00] <dr_willis> X_,  depends on the filessizes. ntfs is  fine in most cases these days.
[02:01] <clint_> how do i know im in my root dir? im showing "clint@clint:~$
[02:01] <X_> dr_willis: does that work on both systems?
[02:01] <dr_willis> clint_,  ~ is a shortcut name for the 'home' directory.
[02:01] <soundray> X_: I've replied to your questions twice, and never knew whether what I was saying helped or not.
[02:01] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, I wish I never heard xVM, damn,
[02:01] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy:  VMware player needs an annoying config file.  and with that you could set up USB and stuff.  there is a site for making, but that's just annoying.   :P
[02:03] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: as far as I know it cannot run vdi
[02:03] <clint_> no i want a book
[02:03] <clint_> with paper and words
[02:03] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: VMware player sucks big time compared to  Virtualbox also
[02:03] <Sapph> I currently run Gutsy (because my NICs don't work in Heron).  What is the best webcam that is well supported in GG?
[02:03] <clint_> some pictures
[02:04] <soundray> clint_: "Just for Fun" by L. Torvalds
[02:04] <pygmymath> clint_: don't know any myself, sorry
[02:04] <darren_> i agree viryalbox is very good
[02:04] <darren_> virtualbox
[02:04] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, why? does not support hardware well? like usb?
[02:04] <SebNaitsabes> darren_:  didn't I help you out with that?  recentlly
[02:04] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy:  the open source version that you can get from apt-get does not suppourt USB, but the other version does
[02:05] <clint_> http://www.amazon.com/Official-Ubuntu-Book-Benjamin-Mako/dp/0137136684/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221181444&sr=8-2
[02:05] <clint_> booya
[02:05] <favafro> rungetty is not giving me autologin - is /etc/inittab still recognized if created?
[02:05] <darren_> SebNaitsabes: still does not show signel strength im going crazy with this
[02:05] <SebNaitsabes> darren_: oh you were the one I tried to help I see
[02:05] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, sorry I remember I installed it using virtualbox-2.0_2.0.0-36011_Ubuntu_hardy_i386.deb
[02:05] <darren_> SebNaitsabes: yes going nits here
[02:05] <darren_> nuts
[02:05] <SebNaitsabes> darren_:  maybe you should buy another adapter?
[02:06] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: and downloaded from virtualbox.org ?
[02:06] <moose_> hey does anyone know how to connect PS3 to UBUNTU over the LAN network
[02:07] <nandemonai> Sapph, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:07] <SebNaitsabes> !LAN
[02:07] <Sapph> nandemonai:  Thanks, muchly
[02:07] <nandemonai> Sapph, No worries.
[02:08] <moose_> has anyone installed Yellow Dog on PS3
[02:08] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, no I never wen't there, I got it from Sun
[02:08] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy:  hummmm sounds like you got the right version
[02:08] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: have you got a VM in it?
[02:08] <darren_> SebNaitsabes: i have tryed 3 diffrent adapters none show signel and i have tryed the 3 in my girlfinds laptop and my desktop pc  with the same drivers and same ubuntu and works on them just not my laptop, its strange because my buit in one works no problem
[02:08] <SebNaitsabes> use the built in one then?
[02:09] <Xcerca> if i want to use lirc then do i have to somehow map my device /dev/usb/hiddev1 to /dev/lirc0  ,  what does irw read by default ?
[02:09] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: if you open the settings of a VM   you can set things up like USB
[02:09] <darren_> SebNaitsabes: it does not pick up signel very well
[02:09] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, yeah I have a 4gb vdi with WinXP installed, and it won't grow
[02:09] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: you want it to grow?
[02:10] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, yeah I choosed the "dynamically resize" option
[02:10] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy:  that's 4GB of your psyical hard disk space being taken up by a VM.   would have been better if you had gone  dynamically expanding
[02:10] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, I followed this tutorial http://hi.baidu.com/slong42/blog/item/f1638c54bec8df193b29357c.html
[02:10] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy:  4GB is  very small yes even for  dynamically expanding option
[02:10] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: however the virtual machine itself probably take up hardly any space on your hard disk
[02:11] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, yeah I choosed dynamically expanding but now xp won't stop complaining about Low Disk Space
[02:11] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy:  with a dynamically  expanding VM you could put  2TB if you really wanted to, even if  your host as in Ubuntu partition is not 2TB.
[02:11] <doojin> hi
[02:11] <doojin> I chekced usb legacy support and it was enabled
[02:11] <doojin> It's not usb maybe
[02:12] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy:  I would say for  XP  VM, put expanding and 100GB as the size.  even if  the partition it's in is no where near that size, because  the VM size and the amount it actsaully takes up is not the same
[02:12] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: you can see that for your self
[02:12] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: the VM you got there is probably much less than 4GB
[02:12] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-virtualbox-16-in-ubuntu-804hardy-heron-including-usb-support.html
[02:12] <thirdy> that's what I followed
[02:13] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: yes I think that's the one I used
[02:13] <thirdy> usb won't still work
[02:13] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: I got USB working in the end :)
[02:13] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: it was a little hard to get working at first
[02:13] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: ,but that's one thing  you got  a stupid sized  dynamically expanding VM
[02:13] <doojin> soundf_ : are you soundry?
[02:14] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: Windows thinks you only got 4GB.  and what you have said is this VM cannot ever expand to any bigger than 4GB.
[02:14] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: have you  ever been in .virtualbox?  and is it a clean install of XP?
[02:15] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, ?
[02:15] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: do you know about the dot (.)  folders in HOme?
[02:15] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, yeah, but I've never been there
[02:15] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy:  well  your about to find out why you got a stupidly sized VM :)  if you do as I say
[02:16] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, creating a new Virtual Machine won't do the trick, I really need to get my files from my XP vdi
[02:16] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: yes that can be done
[02:16] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: so what's why you wanted USB?
[02:16] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, yeah
[02:17] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, I'm thiking about vpn
[02:17] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: vdi's can acstaully be resized, but it seems that's not so easy, and it's not worth it,  XP instaleld really fast right in Virtualbox?
[02:17] <f4hy> What is the correct course of action to request a newer version of a package, or even better what is the process for me to just package it myself and get it included
[02:17] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy:  I am thinking do a shared folder with your host Ubuntu
[02:17] <lecapitan> hi
[02:17] <lecapitan> is any one here ?
[02:18] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, yeah but when I paste from xp, it will show the blue screen with error msgs
[02:18] <SebNaitsabes> lol
[02:18] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy:  uhmmmmmmm   ok
[02:18] <X_> Im trying to segment my HD into 5 partitions with gparted, and was wondering what the best approach is
[02:18] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: so you tried shared folder?
[02:18] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, yeah
[02:18] <AliTabuger7> X_ when you get into 5 you have to go logical i think
[02:19] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy:  ok well  get your USB working ?    the Virtualbox manual is good you can get form website
[02:19] <woli> hi... why when I put a launcher with a custom svg icon and stretch it, the icon looks like if it was not scalable?
[02:19] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: it explains everything that can be done with Virtualbox
[02:19] <X_> AliTabuger7: How about 4, its a 500g HD
[02:19] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy:  also  I would suggest going here now #vbox
[02:19] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy: considering that people in there, will know more about Virutalbox then I do
[02:19] <lecapitan> so new ubuntu user here ...mainly trying to make ubuntu look like OSX  from the post on maketecheasier...just having trouble with avant window navigator ...was hoping some one could help
[02:20] <SebNaitsabes> lecapitan: why make it look like OS X?
[02:20] <f4hy> Is there a separate channel to discuss ibex matters, or is this the right place?
[02:20] <SebNaitsabes> lecapitan: and KXdocker is meant to be better than avant
[02:21] <hp> what is the launch date for 8.10?
[02:21] <SebNaitsabes> f4hy: yes #ubuntu+1
[02:21] <f4hy> SebNaitsabes, thanks
[02:21] <SebNaitsabes> hp: end of October
[02:21] <lecapitan> sebnaitsabes...well i wanted an excuse to swithc to linux from windows every one said ubuntu and i was like okay and while looking at stuff i found this post on lifehacker and i was like i oh i have to do that
[02:21] <S3> Does anyone know if there is a way that I can have the users list show all the time in XChat-Gnome?
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,421043,00.html
[02:21]  * IndyGunFreak apologizes, wrong channel
[02:22] <S3> lecapitan: which post?
[02:22] <lecapitan> S3  is it okay to post URL's in here ?
[02:22] <SebNaitsabes> lecapitan:  lol  making it look like OS X isnn't a good excuse.  a proper excuse would be Beryl or Compiz :)  Youtube  those if you don't know what they are
[02:22] <SebNaitsabes> lecapitan: and yes you will have to have on a hard disk for real for that
[02:22] <S3> lecapitan: no idea, I'm newer than you!
[02:22] <SebNaitsabes> no virtual machine
[02:22] <lecapitan> http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard/2008/07/23
[02:22] <lecapitan> yes I know ...i formated my computer :)
[02:22] <AliTabuger7> X_ I forgot what the limit is off the top of my head, but there is some kind of issue when you reach a certain number of partitions. So you get around it by creating an Extended partition, which can have multiple partitions inside of it.
[02:22] <SebNaitsabes> lecapitan: there are also some Mac like distros already
[02:22] <lecapitan> this is a fresh insall
[02:23] <lecapitan> i know but i wanted to stick with ubuntu since every one says its the best linux disto
[02:23] <SebNaitsabes> lecapitan: how new to Ubuntu?
[02:23] <SebNaitsabes> lecapitan:  there are ways to make it look like OS X I have done so before
[02:23] <SebNaitsabes> lecapitan: ,but you can make Ubuntu look nicer than OS X :)
[02:23] <lepine> Hey guys, i'm having problems with the installer. on both of my computers, the language menu pops up. On my desktop, the keyboard seems frozen and i can't get out of it.Problem is, the alternate cd does NOT have a count down to  the installer as the normal cd does, so i'm essentially stuck there ...
[02:23] <lecapitan> umm days ....with linux  (i used mandriva/mandrake before)
[02:23] <lepine> what can i do ?
[02:24] <dr_willis> You could make Ubuntu Look like a C64 also..
[02:24] <S3> lecapitan:  lol!
[02:24] <lecapitan> i guess i make people laugh alot
[02:24] <SebNaitsabes> lecapitan: heh it's ok
[02:24] <SebNaitsabes> lecapitan:  I think a lot of us went through the
[02:24] <X_> AliTabuger7: Basically what im trying to do is be able to have my main distro Ubuntu, then a permanent secondary distro, and enough room left over to test others on
[02:25] <SebNaitsabes> lecapitan: let's make Ubuntu look like Mac OS X stage
[02:25] <S3> lecapitan: I'd like to know if you're able to get it all working, that's pretty cool looking
[02:25] <lecapitan> its an old p4 1.8 ghz  with 1 gig of ram ...it was either go buy a new PC or switch ... Idecided to switch
[02:25]  * S3 wonders if Synergy will work on a Macbook Air
[02:25] <SebNaitsabes> !mac
[02:25] <lecapitan> i got it all to work except the stupid little doc
[02:25] <lepine> is there a way to remove the language menu from  the installer? or make it so it does NOT pop up by default?
[02:26] <SebNaitsabes> lecapitan:  http://mac4lin.sf.net
[02:26] <SebNaitsabes> I think that's the link anwyay
[02:26] <dr_willis> lepine,  ive noticed its a little over zelous at poping up. if you hit escape - it goes away. Back to the menu underneeth
[02:26] <dr_willis> lepine,  this is on the alterive installer cd.  Not sure about the desktop installer.
[02:26] <lepine> dr_willis ... thats my problem! on my desktop, my keyboard seems frozen during the menu.
[02:27] <AliTabuger7> X_ is there nothing on that disk already? if thats the case it really wouldn't hurt to try a few configurations.
[02:27] <dr_willis> lepine,  Alt- installer cd? Thats odd...
[02:27] <lecapitan> your mac4lin link does not work
[02:27] <lepine> the normal install cd eventually hits a timeout and boot ... but the alt cd does not have this time out. hence blockage.
[02:27] <lepine> i  tried removing some hw, changed keyboards ... nothing.
[02:27] <X_> AliTabuger7: Ubuntu hardy, is, on the system, thats why im wadding into this so I dont end up loosing what i've got so far
[02:27] <mortuis99_> hello  i have just installed ubuntu on a lappy and am having trouble mounting a partition can someone give me a hand?
[02:28]  * Emm claps enthusiastically
[02:28] <lepine> anyideas?
[02:29] <SebNaitsabes> !mount
[02:29] <X_> AliTabuger7: I was hoping to just be able to tamper with gparted and resize my main partition and add a few new ones without loosing what i have
[02:29] <dr_willis> lepine,  Hmm..  ive seen some issues like this on  machines with using a USB keyboard. Got a PS2 keyboard? try one if you can.
[02:29] <dr_willis> lepine,  i got one box. I cant do anything in grub with a USB keyboard. Gotta keep a PS2 handy for it.
[02:29] <lepine> dr_willis ... damn Dell ... no more PS2!
[02:30] <SebNaitsabes> !mount > mortuis99
[02:30] <dr_willis> lepine,  if the bios stuff has the right menus. theres often a 'legacy usb' option in the  menus.
[02:30] <AliTabuger7> X_ If I were you i would be very careful if you have to modify your ubuntu partition. If you already have the space, there shouldn't be a problem as long as you don't do anything with the ubuntu partition and it remains the first partition on the disk. If ubuntu is taking up the whole disk, you will need a Linux live cd with gparted on it
[02:30] <dr_willis> lepine,  ,may want to try those
[02:30]  * lepine watches his desktop liberation plans wither and die ...
[02:30] <lepine> dr_willis:  trying so now.
[02:31] <dr_willis> lepine,  on my one machine. enabling that option made  both os's (linux an windows) not boot. :( so rember where it is so you can change it back if needed
[02:31] <X_> AliTabuger7: my next question is, will i get the dual boot option, and i can transfer files from distro to distro if their on the HD right?
[02:31] <SebNaitsabes> X_:  if you want to try different distros the easiest way is to have one host OS Ubuntu or another Linux and  do the otheres in virtual machines
[02:32] <lepine> dr_willis, note taken.
[02:32] <thirdy> SebNaitsabes, I think hamachi will save me
[02:32] <BlackSabath> test
[02:32] <StevenX> Hello. I have extracted the audio track from a .mkv file using mkvextract, but I'm not sure what kind of file it is. I want to convert it into an mp3, but I'm not sure what it is.
[02:32] <Yamakiri> How do I copy a file on a PC I have SSH access to, to my computer?
[02:32] <BlackSabath> hey guys!
[02:32] <thirdy> nice BlackSabath
[02:32] <BlackSabath> Peace
[02:32] <SebNaitsabes> thirdy:  I don't know what that is, but hopefuly
[02:32] <BlackSabath> im using
[02:32] <mortuis99_> is there a way to check the partitions in command line?
[02:32] <BlackSabath> Weechat rules
[02:33] <lepine> dr_willis ... no go ... any last ideas?
[02:33] <SebNaitsabes> Yamakiri:  your PC to what PC?
[02:33] <ph0rensic> mortuis99: I think its the fdisk command???
[02:33] <derenrich> I have a process that's been running on my terminal (shh'd onto another computer) for 48 hours. i was stupid and so I forgot to run it in a screen (so i've left my computer on). Is there any way to add the process to a screen or connect to the tty from within screen so I can turn my computer off?
[02:33] <SebNaitsabes> Yamakiri: both yours?
[02:33] <AliTabuger7> X_ I'm no longer sure I understand what you are trying to do. I can answer that most of the time a boot option will not automatically appear in the existing grub if you are installing another OS after ubuntu. However, grub is extremely easy to configure. I don't know what distro's you wish to use, nor what you wish to transfer.
[02:33] <Yamakiri> SebNaitsabes: no, one belongs to a friend of mine
[02:33] <dr_willis> lepine,  not really.
[02:33] <SebNaitsabes> !ftp
[02:33] <lepine> thanks for trying!
[02:34] <Tapout> what's the best FTP prog for ubuntu?  The gftp sucks, doesn't recognize large files
[02:34] <derenrich> Tapout: i use filezilla, it's nice
[02:34]  * dr_willis wonders how a ftp client recognizes large files or not.....
[02:34] <AliTabuger7> Tapout, what's wrong with nautilus?
[02:34] <dr_willis> !ftp
[02:34] <SebNaitsabes> Yamikiri: your friend has Windows
[02:34] <Yamakiri> SebNaitsabes: Um, how can I upload something to a FTP server via SSH?
[02:35] <Yamakiri> SebNaitsabes: um no he's a native Linux user
[02:35] <SebNaitsabes> I don't know, another idea would be to get free web hosting that has FTP
[02:36] <Yamakiri> SebNaitsabes: yes but um I need to do it through the terminal :S
[02:36] <Tapout> filezilla works under ubuntu?
[02:37] <SebNaitsabes> !fiezilla
[02:37] <Tapout> AliTabuger7, never used it...  Nautilus is the default file browser for ubuntu. If you ever looked at your home directory in ubuntu then you're familiar with nautilus
[02:37] <StevenX> !mkv
[02:38] <Tapout> AliTabuger7, oh hehe
[02:38] <karlNY> hello
[02:38] <Yamakiri> SebNaitsabes: thanks for the help.  The fellows in ##linux said scp /path/to/localfile username-remote@remote-box-adress:/path/remote/ would work
[02:38] <ASrock> is there any program for linux to imitate activeX?
[02:38] <SebNaitsabes> ASrock:  LOL of course not
[02:38] <karlNY> What package/suite lets me build a custom debian/Ubutnu installer? (sorta like making my own LiveCD or PXE image)?
[02:39] <SebNaitsabes> ASrock: Firefox etc wont' even suppourt Activex
[02:39] <lelelele> is ubuntu like fedora?
[02:39] <AliTabuger7> Tapout, I run a website, and I've found that nautilus now that it uses gvfs as its backend is superior to the majority of ftp programs for simple uploading because of its drag and drop support as well as it's very familiar interface
[02:39] <SebNaitsabes> lelelele: in certian ways yes
[02:39] <ASrock> well firefox for windows supports active x
[02:39] <SebNaitsabes> no it does not?
[02:39] <SebNaitsabes> maybe if you got some extension
[02:39] <ASrock> yes it does
[02:39] <SebNaitsabes> ,but otherwise no
[02:39] <lelelele> but why ubuntu there is no in google open source project list? or ubuntu has another name?
[02:40] <derenrich> ASrock: I don't know anything about it, but looks like http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/mozilla.htm is relevant
[02:40] <ASrock> dude i use activex in windows firefox all the time
[02:40] <lelelele> http://code.google.com/soc/2008/
[02:40] <jrib> lelelele: launchpad.net
[02:40] <dan_> Any ideas on how i could maybe disable my touch pad mouse when my wireless mouse gets connected up ?
[02:40] <SebNaitsabes> ASrock: then you suck :D  heh more seriosully though, how do you do it?
[02:40] <Dialgarocks1> is freespire brought by ubunt
[02:40] <Dialgarocks1> u
[02:40] <derenrich> ASrock: ok, /me is rarely in windows
[02:40] <SebNaitsabes> Xandros bought Linspire
[02:40] <SebNaitsabes> which owns Freespire
[02:40] <lelelele> nop.
[02:40] <ASrock> SebNaitsabes: idk it just works
[02:41] <dr_willis> which was using ubuntu as a base? then it stopped.. dident it? i gave up on following all the ubuntu variants.
[02:41] <SebNaitsabes> Yes  Freespire was  using Ubuntu as a base, but now it's going to use Debain again, or whatever that article I read said
[02:41] <dr_willis> SebNaitsabes,  some people cant make up their minds.. :)
[02:42] <dan_> ASSISTANCE PLZ: Any ideas on how i could disable my laptop touch pad mouse when my wireless mouse gets connected ?
[02:42] <SebNaitsabes> ASrock:  no  Firefox etc do nto suppourt Activex
[02:42] <cheeky> this is running in my head .. iam a information systems major and i have 4 months of free time w/no school and i was wondering couldi get linux certified or something that could lead me to an intersnshiop that would help my information systems major ?
[02:42] <Dialgarocks1> i have freespire
[02:42] <SebNaitsabes> ASrock: if yours does though, mabye you got some clever maliciosu program on there
[02:42] <ASrock> w/e
[02:42] <SebNaitsabes> malicious program
[02:43] <ASrock> but on another note, my wireless disconnects after downloading torrents for a little bit, would this be an issue with my wireless card or my router
[02:43] <Tapout> thank you guys btw
[02:43] <dr_willis> dan_,  thats somthing ive never seen done.  there are  'touchpad' config tools that can disable the touchpad I belive, on the fly.  That would be a start. then you would have to figure out how to make udev (i think) see/run the right command when the mouse is plugged in, and then again when its removed
[02:43] <lelelele> i have no idea why http://code.google.com/soc/2008/ there is no ubuntu. there is drupa, mozilla, gimp, etc etc 170projects of open source. fedora etc. but ubuntu looks like bigger community why there isnt on google list?
[02:43] <SebNaitsabes> ASrock:  native Linux drivers or ndiswrapper?
[02:44] <ASrock> um, whats ndiswrapper?
[02:44] <SebNaitsabes> way for making WIndows wireless drivers work with Linux
[02:44] <SebNaitsabes> program for that
[02:44] <dan_> dr_willis: hmmm !!
[02:44] <jrib> lelelele: those are mentoring organizations for SoC, not just open source projects in general
[02:44] <ASrock> sweetness i will try that
[02:44] <SebNaitsabes> however
[02:45] <SebNaitsabes> it's best to use native Linux drivers uusualley
[02:45] <SebNaitsabes> if you can
[02:45] <dr_willis> dan_,  i always make sure mylaptops have a button to turn off the touchpad. :)
[02:45] <ASrock> but ya im using just w/e ubuntu came with for drivers
[02:45] <dan_> dr_willis: :-D hehe bit late now :-D
[02:45] <SebNaitsabes> ASrock:  well look up your device and see if it has native wireless drivers?
[02:45] <SebNaitsabes> Linux ones
[02:45] <ASrock> because im thinking about getting a new motherboard and if its my wireless card then i will get a new one now but if it is my router i will just buy a router for now
[02:45] <SebNaitsabes> if not,  well  ndiswrapepr could be a try,  or maybe it's that you don't have an open port for torrents
[02:46] <ubuntu> i have a question
[02:46] <ubuntu> i reinstalled my macromedia flash plugin for firefox
[02:46] <ubuntu> now youtube has no audio
[02:46] <SebNaitsabes> ok
[02:46] <ubuntu> any suggestions?
[02:46] <SebNaitsabes> haev you got audio else where?
[02:46] <ubuntu> yes
[02:46] <lelelele> jrib well but python etc are mentoring organizations and still open source projects in general ;D it means ubuntu doesnt have mentor organization status on Google so how it widespreads so good?
[02:46] <ubuntu> just on flash videos
[02:46] <SebNaitsabes> !flash
[02:46] <SebNaitsabes> ok that's no good then
[02:47] <ubuntu> any suggestions
[02:47] <ubuntu> flash is working
[02:47] <ubuntu> just no audio
[02:47] <Odd-rationale> it's a pulseaudio issue...
[02:47] <lelelele> turn on your speakers :D
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> Ububegin: thats a pulseaudio issue
[02:47] <ubuntu> got it
[02:47] <ant2ne> Are your speakers turned on an plugged in?
[02:47] <SebNaitsabes> Odd-rationale: I was thinking that
[02:47] <Odd-rationale> i'm not sure what the fix is...
[02:47] <SebNaitsabes> ubuntu: ok try this
[02:48] <SebNaitsabes> ubuntu:  killall pulseaudio
[02:48] <Ububegin> IndyGunFreak: yes... huh
[02:48] <Odd-rationale> i beleive it is a known issue too... :(
[02:48] <ubuntu> ok
[02:48] <dan_> Well there is a mouse touch pad option under System->Appearance->Mouse --- :-D click and its disabled :-D winner !!!!
[02:48] <jrib> lelelele: this isn't really a support question and I have no idea how SoC works
[02:48] <SebNaitsabes> I heard pulseaudio issues will be fixed for next Ubuntu  0dd-rationale
[02:48] <jp73107> I have a question.. Is it possible to chroot and install say, the nvidia-glx-new package while on the livecd?
[02:48] <jp73107> chroot to installed system that is
[02:48] <ubuntu> and after killall pulseaudio
[02:49] <SebNaitsabes> do it again and it should say no procces killed.  and close Firefox.  and re open Firefox go to Youtube and try your video
[02:49] <lelelele> jrib ok then. i was just curious about all this unix versionilazation questions, anyway i dont care and best luck :)
[02:49]  * lelelele is windows user :)
[02:49] <ant2ne> jp, are you looking to install drivers on a live CD session?
[02:49] <jp73107> well
[02:49] <ubuntu> that works
[02:49] <ubuntu> thanks
[02:49] <jp73107> yes and no :)
[02:49] <jrib> lelelele: if you ask in #ubunt-offtopic, someone there may know more
[02:49] <SebNaitsabes> ubuntu: that's only temporey
[02:49] <jrib> lelelele: if you ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, someone there may know more
[02:49] <SebNaitsabes> ubuntu: if you get problems like that again with sound
[02:49] <jp73107> install the drivers while logged into the live-cd session, but install the drivers via chroot to the installed system
[02:49] <SebNaitsabes> ubuntu:  just do that again
[02:50] <jp73107> so i don't have to boot the installed system, install the drivers, then reboot
[02:50] <lelelele> jrib i dont care i guess all projects in soc are very good, like drupal mozilla etc you are using them, python php :P
[02:50] <ubuntu> alright, im done
[02:50] <jp73107> i'd rather just boot the installed system and have nvidia drivers already installed
[02:50] <ant2ne> wow, that is deep
[02:50] <cheeky> cani get certified in linux and is there want forit like .. how they want MS.. rubbish ?
[02:50] <ant2ne> jp, you are a pick b@$tard
[02:50] <jp73107> i know
[02:50] <jp73107> lol
[02:50] <jp73107> i'm just being lazy
[02:51] <jp73107> cheeky: theres a few linux certs out there
[02:51] <ant2ne> not really
[02:51] <jp73107> i know there is RHCE which is red hat certified engineer, and then there is L2 linux systems engineer from L2 institute i think
[02:51] <jp73107> 2nd one i'm not 100% sure about
[02:51] <dan_> ASSIST pls: How to unrar .rar files in linux ?
[02:51] <ant2ne> a lazy person would just reboot the system once
[02:51] <ant2ne> you want to be difficult
[02:51] <jp73107> lol
[02:51] <cheeky> jp73107: is there a market for it out there ?
[02:51] <ant2ne> I'm studying linux+ cert
[02:51] <jrib> !rar > dan_
[02:51] <jp73107> i'm not sure
[02:52] <jp73107> about there being a market
[02:52] <delmar> any routing guru's around? I need to somehow force packets destined for a certain ip-range/mask to have a source address which is not my default ip/device for outgoing traffic. anyone?
[02:52] <MonkeyMan> Im studying linux in my operating systems class if that helps ya.
[02:52] <jrib> can we move the certification talk to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[02:52] <jp73107> i could just drop to rl 1 i think, and then back to 5
[02:52] <jp73107> i need to quit "playing" with my ubuntu system so i don't have to reinstall
[02:53] <jp73107> this is 5th reinstall today
[02:53] <jp73107> :3
[02:53] <ant2ne> let me know how it words, jp
[02:53] <jrib> jp73107: play in a virtual machine
[02:53] <MonkeyMan> Damn jp
[02:53] <ant2ne> LOL
[02:53] <jp73107> well i'm trying to customize it =/
[02:53] <ant2ne> yup... vm
[02:53] <jrib> jp73107: you are doing something wrong
[02:53] <ant2ne> vm for toying
[02:53] <ant2ne> when I first started ubuntu I re-insalled once every couple of days
[02:53] <jp73107> it just takes less time to reinstall than it does to reverse any changes i make
[02:53] <cheeky> oh osorry
[02:53] <jp73107> i don't break my system lol
[02:53] <cheeky> i didnt jknow about that room
[02:54] <jrib> jp73107: just wipe your ~
[02:54] <jp73107> yeah
[02:54] <ant2ne> i once broke my sys by typing "chmod 777 -R /*" instead of "chmod 777 -R ./*"
[02:54] <jp73107> i need to just install bacula or something
[02:54] <ant2ne> one little period
[02:54] <jp73107> lol
[02:54] <jp73107> i've done some crazy stuff in my years of using linux
[02:55] <lelelele> ok now i see, your ubuntu is made by company Canonical :D that means it didnt sponsor students, but still is the best even without students help. anyway i am wondering who works in Canonical company?
[02:55] <wers> why dont i hear anything from youtube? haha
[02:55] <ant2ne> wers, are your speakers on?
[02:55] <ant2ne> lol
[02:55] <molgrum> i'm trying to figure out why an entry in my menu works differently depending on if i copy-paste it to the terminal or if i click it via the GUI... the launcher does this: env WINEPREFIX="/home/user/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\Warcraft III\Frozen Throne.exe" -window
[02:55] <wers> ant2ne, yeah. just youtube
[02:55] <ant2ne> welp I'm off to take a walk
[02:56] <ant2ne> see yas
[02:56] <wers> youtube has max volume too
[02:56] <molgrum> specifically, via the GUI it fails to start the application in windowed mode, in CLI it starts it in windowed mode sucessfully
[02:56] <jrib> molgrum: what do you notice that is different?
[02:57] <molgrum> it is the "-window" that i added myself
[02:57] <molgrum> it does nothing in the menu launcher, only in CLI
[02:58] <jrib> molgrum: the easiest way around this is to just create a shell script and point the launcher to that rather than trying to see if there is a way to do it directly in the launcher
[02:58] <Lamont_Jones> I've got a geforce fx5500 installed and I ubuntu keeps bumping my resolutioj back down to 640x480. Is that a symptom of an inccorect driver in use?
[02:58] <lelelele> ftw i go from here
[02:58] <molgrum> jrib: i'll try that thanks
[02:59] <molgrum> but logically... this makes no sense to me :/
[03:01] <nickz327> hello?
[03:01] <molgrum> jrib: now i changed the launcher to execute a nonsensical command, it still does the exact same thing as before (launch warcraft 3 in wine)
[03:01] <molgrum> something is not right here
[03:01] <nickz327> i installed emerald on gmd
[03:02] <nickz327> and i can't load any themes through system>preferences>emerald
[03:02] <R00T987> hi, how do i login as root in Feisty please?
[03:02] <jahnkeanater> in php how do i run a shell script
[03:02] <SebNaitsabes> ROOT987: why do you want root?
[03:02] <strategy> R00T987, why would you want to?
[03:03] <niche> because he's R00t987
[03:03] <SebNaitsabes> !root
[03:03] <nickz327> i installed ubuntu
[03:03] <nickz327> then i decided i wanted to try kde
[03:03] <nickz327> and installed the kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu
[03:03] <strategy> kwl
[03:04] <nickz327> i removed kde, but i still get a kubutnu boot screen
[03:04] <SebNaitsabes> !root | nickz327
[03:04] <SebNaitsabes> !puregnome
[03:04] <Leefmc> Is AWN usable metacity turned on? I really want to use AWN but i spend 50% of my time in metacity because i run 3D Apps
[03:04] <halkun> How do you get rid of the "Applications" "Places" and "system" from the panel? (I just want the ubuntu "start" button.
[03:04] <sjea> i love ubuntu is there any amp to boast there sound it seams low but i look at the sound lvl'sthere all maxed?
[03:04] <nickz327> thank you
[03:04] <niche> nickz327, what do you not like about KDE?
[03:04] <nickz327> i just prefer gnome
[03:04] <sjea> !sound
[03:05] <nickz327> also, it was required to install some themes for emerald
[03:05] <Leefmc> sjea: Double click the volume, you have various settings in there just like windows. Usually you can boost a more core volume level, vs the frontend "volume".
[03:05] <jahnkeanater> sjea: it must be your motherboard my ubuntu is louder than i want
[03:05] <sjea> aw thanks
[03:05] <c0mp13371331337> Leefmc: AWN won't work without a compositing 3D window manager, but SimDock is an alternative.  It's a bit under-developed, but it did the trick for me til I updated my rig.
[03:05] <R00T987> SebNaitsabes - I want to change the permissions of my extra hard drive so I can write to it (specifically run grsync)
[03:05] <GullyFoyle> turn the dial on your speakers up
[03:05] <molgrum> jrib: and now i added a new menu post that executes the shell script, now this worked..
[03:05] <SebNaitsabes> !mount | ROOT987
[03:05] <strategy> R00T987, just use sudo
[03:05] <Orchid`> will someone please help me, im ahving issues with audio! i get absolutely nothing, and everything is connected
[03:05] <strategy> you shouldn't ever need to login as root
[03:06] <Leefmc> c0mp13371331337: Well i heard about a way to make AWN work with metacity, some addon, but im not sure how well AWN works so i was curious if anyone has tried it
[03:06] <SebNaitsabes> Orchid:  no start up sound?
[03:06] <strategy> Orchid`, driver problem most likely, did you check your drivers?
[03:06] <chetnick> i have thinkpad t42, the battery is in really bad shape. Is it posible that screen goes black because of that even when the laptop is on the charger?
[03:06] <R00T987> strategy: can you recommend a tutorial so show me how?
[03:06] <sjea> well found one fix thank that work great for now thanks again
[03:06] <Orchid`> sebash,  not evens tartup sound now
[03:06] <strategy> R00T987, I dont know about mounting extra partitions..
[03:06] <Orchid`> SebNaitsabes,  note ven satartup sound now
[03:07] <c0mp13371331337> Leefmc: Hmmmm, well that I have not seen.  If that's the case, it may very well be possible.  If you happen to get it working, let me know!
[03:07] <Orchid`> strategy,  i err walk me through that please?
[03:07] <SebNaitsabes> Orchid: ok driver issue by the "sounds" :D of it
[03:07] <Orchid`> lol cold pun!
[03:07] <Leefmc> c0mp13371331337: http://www.planetblur.org/hosted/awnforum/index.php?shard=forum&action=g_reply&ID=751
[03:07] <R00T987> strategy: it is an entire 500 gig hd
[03:07] <strategy> R00T987, cool
[03:07] <Leefmc> c0mp13371331337: I'll go ahead and give it a try
[03:07] <Orchid`> but as soon as we can get this done haha the better, it began when i installe dnew hardware, a DVDROM to write and burn discs
[03:07] <SebNaitsabes> !sound
[03:07] <shortc|laptop> Can someone remind me what the name of the CD/DVD burning software in 8.04 is?  I used to use GnomeBaker, but there's a new one that was touted with 8.04, and I can't remember the name.
[03:08] <SebNaitsabes> !burning
[03:08] <Leefmc> c0mp13371331337: Whats the official awn package name?
[03:08] <Orchid`> yeah my alsa is compeltely up, although the micx is mtued, btu i do not have one, next step?
[03:08] <halkun> !DVD
[03:08] <jahnkeanater> how would i run a shell script in php i think you have to use exec();
[03:08] <SebNaitsabes> !php
[03:08] <jahnkeanater> yea
[03:09] <strategy> jahnkeanater, that'd be more appropriate for #php
[03:09] <nickz327> hi, i came here earlier about uninstalling kubuntu
[03:09] <strategy> jahnkeanater, but yes, exec() is what you want
[03:09] <nickz327> the link didn't work
[03:09] <SebNaitsabes> the pure gnome link not working?
[03:09] <nickz327> it should be noted that i installed with aptitde
[03:09] <nickz327> *aptitude
[03:10] <shortc|laptop> thanks
[03:10] <strategy> nickz327, you purged and removed kubuntu-desktop with aptitude and what happened?
[03:10] <SebNaitsabes> nickz327:  maybe ask in #kubuntu :D  and they will be like no please don't unisntal  Kubuntu  heh
[03:10] <Winston_SmithVT> Do the 4TB USB drives work ok in ubuntu? I'm looking at buying one for use with my laptop, which is pretty much my main pc.
[03:11] <SebNaitsabes> !USB
[03:11] <strategy> woah 4TB
[03:11] <SebNaitsabes> ok that's no good
[03:11] <SebNaitsabes> that one
[03:11] <Orchid`> SebNaitsabes,  how od i open a shell and what is it? im on the sound troubleshooting page?
[03:11] <pawan> hi
[03:11] <nickz327> i uninstalled from aptitude with the following command "sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop"
[03:11] <strategy> Orchid`, applications -> accessories -> terminal
[03:11] <SebNaitsabes> you said no sound at all right?
[03:11] <PrivateRolf> Orchid: Applications-->Accessories--->terminal
[03:11] <Orchid`> strategy,  thanks.
[03:11] <strategy> nickz327, you should purge too
[03:11] <nickz327> but the kubuntu boot and shutdown screens are still there
[03:12] <nickz327> sound is fixed
[03:12] <PrivateRolf> I'm looking for a GarageBand-esque application. Help?
[03:12] <strategy> Orchid`, no problem. that's something you really need to learn in linux.. it's highly important
[03:12] <strategy> nickz327, did you purge?
[03:12] <nickz327> no
[03:12] <craigbass1976> has anyone gotten dansguardian to work in a non CE ubuntu install?
[03:12] <sjea> ok last choir trying to set up printer so windows box can see the printer install samba but still have troubles and easy to under stand sites to learn ?
[03:12] <nickz327> how do i purge
[03:12] <sjea> !printer
[03:12] <strategy> nickz327, "apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop"
[03:12] <craigbass1976> !dansguardian
[03:12] <nickz327> it wont matter that i installed with aptitude will it?
[03:13] <kudar> why is there an empty root folder within root directory on fresh ubuntu ultimate edition install?
[03:13] <strategy> nickz327, well, yes that matters
[03:13] <strategy> nickz327, just type that in
[03:13] <nickz327> ok
[03:13] <ZeroSerenity> !help
[03:13] <nickz327> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu
[03:13] <Orchid`> uh anyone know how to read the output of a aplay -l command?
[03:13] <strategy> nickz327, erm, kubuntu-desktop
[03:13] <nickz327> sorry
[03:14] <strategy> :P
[03:14] <pen> do anyone got firefox 3.1 alpha 2 running?
[03:14] <nickz327> it says kubuntu was no longer installed
[03:15] <nickz327> but it gave a list of packages that remained, and i unisntalled them
[03:15] <AliTabuger7> I know this is way out of your field, but do any of you know how to get GPG to work in vista?
[03:15] <SebNaitsabes> AliTabuger7:  try #windows
[03:15] <nickz327> im gonna reboot, see if this made a difference
[03:16] <phil> /who
[03:16] <PrivateRolf> !source
[03:17] <powertool08> is there a way to have a sound alert when I get a pm in irssi?
[03:17] <strategy> AliTabuger7, um.. this is kind of #ubuntu
[03:17] <Orchid`> i ahve an odd outcome of a command, will someone help me figure it out? it has to do with audio.
[03:18] <strategy> Orchid`, aight
[03:18] <halkun> !Medibuntu
[03:18] <PrivateRolf> !steam
[03:18] <Paddy_EIRE_> what would be considered the most lightweight video player for ubuntu that plays streaming video?
[03:18] <nickz327> got back from reboot, kubuntu screen is still there
[03:19] <bravo7> Can someone help me on NVIDIA settings screen solution when i try save it i can't save /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:19] <strategy> steam runs on linux?
[03:19] <AliTabuger7> Yeah, but ubuntu as well as many open source developers enjoy using GPG to ensure the authenticity of files and submissions. Even launchpad makes heavy use of GPG.
[03:19] <SebNaitsabes> steam runs in Wine
[03:19] <halkun> I was told I should uninstall pulseaudio because it's garbage. Is that true?
[03:19] <Paddy_EIRE_> bravo7, are you using sudo?
[03:19] <bravo7> Paddy_EIRE_ nope
[03:19] <strategy> AliTabuger7, this is #ubuntu, not #gpg. Since your question relates to windows, this is not the place to ask it.
[03:19] <Paddy_EIRE_> bravo7, there is your prob :)
[03:20] <Orchid`> strategy,  may i pm it to you, or would you rather a pastebin? its about five lines long
[03:20] <bravo7> Paddy_EIRE_ you mean sudo gedit xorg.conf
[03:20] <strategy> Orchid`, pastebin please :)
[03:20] <Paddy_EIRE_> bravo7, open the file using "gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:20] <Paddy_EIRE_> bravo7, it requires root privileges you see
[03:21] <Orchid`> http://pastebin.com/d3270c887 here it is strategy
[03:22] <strategy> Orchid`, what command did you type?
[03:22] <bravo7> Paddy_EIRE_ so i just save and restart computer or alt ctrl delete?
[03:22] <strategy> Orchid`, what did you type after the $
[03:23] <Paddy_EIRE_> bravo7, yea ctrl+alt+backspace should restart your graphical session
[03:23] <bravo7> Paddy_EIRE_ what if my resolution stay the same as before
[03:23] <Paddy_EIRE_> bravo7, only one way to find out :)
[03:23] <bravo7> brb
[03:23] <Orchid`> strategy,  lspci -v to list my audio cards
[03:23] <lepine> dr_willis, in case you care, the best option seems to be to install 7.10, which does not have the usb problem i believe  ... (hoping that my current grub installation wasn't from an even earlier version)
[03:23] <strategy> Orchid`, ahh
[03:24] <Orchid`> strategy,  what i did before that was aplay -l and got the stuff listed, and i didnt understand, no oen answered so i move don
[03:24] <strategy> ah
[03:24] <strategy> hmm
[03:25] <strategy> Orchid`, tell me the output of: lspci -v | grep audio
[03:25] <SebNaitsabes> bigfuzzyjesus what a name to join this channel with
[03:25] <merther> Has anyone been able to use an unhacked iPhone or iPod Touch with iTunes through wine or VMware windows?
[03:25] <PrivateRolf> !iphone | merther
[03:25] <strategy> Orchid`, it should only be about two-three lines
[03:25] <ubuntu> how do i reinstall grub on a fucking FakeRAID system after windows xp install?
[03:25] <Orchid`> gimme a sec
[03:25] <SebNaitsabes> !Grub
[03:26] <`Matir> Is anyone here aware of a cross-platform photo tagging/organization program that will work over a network?
[03:26] <Paddy_EIRE_> !language | ubuntu
[03:26] <rellis> Hi all. I have a developer in my group who was getting the "man in the middle attack" warning from openssh because the key changed on our server. He has since removed the offending line from ~/.ssh/known_hosts but for some reason Konqueror still reports the problem.. any idea where this comes from?
[03:26] <Orchid`> strategy, 01:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[03:26] <bigBear> how do i open all ports in firestarter?
[03:26] <strategy> Orchid`, alright
[03:26] <strategy> Orchid`, sorry, what was the problem again? there were a couple of audio problems in here -.-
[03:26] <`Matir> rellis, in some cases you have one line for the hostname and another for the IP... sure you got the right line?
[03:27] <merther> I'll check it out then for the vmware.  Though does anyone know how vmware works for startup items and drivers?
[03:27] <SebNaitsabes> rellis:  since konqueror is really a  KDE  program maybe you should try #kbuntu
[03:27] <strategy> Orchid`, just cant hear anything?
[03:27] <SebNaitsabes> rellis: #kubuntu
[03:27] <rellis> SebNaitsabes: Okay, thanks. Will do.
[03:27] <Orchid`> strategy,  nothing man, really. and its bothersome when attempting audio conferencing.
[03:27] <DCPomeroy> can someone help me install adobe reader?
[03:27] <bigfuzzyjesus> SebNaitsabes, yeah i get hilighted alot with comments like that :P
[03:28] <strategy> Orchid`, hmm
[03:28] <Orchid`> strategy,  really kills it, when i have to switch to the vista laptop
[03:28] <rellis> `Matir: Well it works at the ocmmand line with no problems..
[03:28] <ZeroSerenity> Is there a way to VM Ubuntu inside of Windows?
[03:28] <rellis> so I'm fairly certain it was the right line.
[03:28] <SebNaitsabes> bigfuzzyjesus: well it's probably offensive to certain people
[03:28] <Paddy_EIRE_> !medibuntu | DCPomeroy
[03:28] <DCPomeroy> i installed that earlier
[03:28] <DCPomeroy> now i get this error
[03:28] <`Matir> rellis, ah, weird... restarted kde?
[03:28] <Orchid`> strategy,  i also submitted a bug repor tn the launchpad website
[03:28] <strategy> Orchid`, and you tried File -> Change Device ?
[03:28] <DCPomeroy> Package acroread is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:28] <DCPomeroy> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:28] <DCPomeroy> is only available from another source
[03:28] <DCPomeroy> E: Package acroread has no installation candidate
[03:29] <FloodBot1> DCPomeroy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:29] <Paddy_EIRE_> DCPomeroy, no flooding please
[03:29] <DCPomeroy> yes i just read that
[03:29] <rellis> `Matir: No I don't think he has.
[03:29] <Orchid`> strategy,  all devices are properly turned on.
[03:29] <strategy> Orchid`, but did you try all of those?
[03:30] <`Matir> rellis, just hypothesizing, but maybe it caches known_hosts somewhere.  no real info to back that up
[03:30] <Orchid`> strategy,  all of the commands ont eh troubleshooting page, no, but i am trying everything
[03:30] <strategy> Orchid`, no no
[03:30] <karlNY> ullo
[03:30] <strategy> Orchid`, open the audio control window
[03:30] <Orchid`> strategy,  ok. next?
[03:30] <strategy> Orchid`, go to file->change device
[03:30] <karlNY> anyone know what package would let me clone an installation to like 5 other systems (not copy, but PXE boot like a liveCD)?
[03:30] <Orchid`> which should i select?
[03:30] <strategy> Orchid`, next, open up a video or song or something and try each and every one of those
[03:30] <strategy> Orchid`, at least one should work..
[03:30] <Orchid`> strategy,  thats what im doin.
[03:31] <karlNY> I want to know if I have one server, can I boot 6 clients off it, serving them a liveCD image via PXE
[03:31] <r2s> does Lenovo Ideapad S10 available in US now???
[03:31] <strategy> Orchid`, the creative labs one should work methinks
[03:31] <karlNY> I need to build the liveCD image... with the right tools <-- what tool?
[03:31] <rellis> `Matir: Ya that's definitely possible. My developer went home for the day so maybe in the morning it'll "magically" be working for him :)
[03:32] <Orchid`> strategy,  i dont have one i have a hda nvidia in the list.
[03:32] <Orchid`> and none work.
[03:32] <thomasite> Hello, everyone.
[03:32] <strategy> Orchid`, uh.. nvidia makes graphics cards
[03:32] <strategy> Orchid`, wait you have 'nvidia' in that list?
[03:32] <Orchid`> start yes i know which is odd why it is in the sound device listing
[03:32] <Orchid`> strategy,  yes.
[03:32] <`Matir> rellis, lol, hopefully
[03:32] <strategy> in the file -> change device list?
[03:32] <Orchid`> strategy,  i dont know why, im jsut reporting in.
[03:32] <strategy> or in lspci -v
[03:32] <Orchid`> in the change device list
[03:33] <thomasite> I have a problem. :( I've been using Pidgin for quite some time now. Recently, however, the window for IRC doesn't open anymore even if I'm connected to it.
[03:33] <strategy> lspci -v lists all your devices and stuff
[03:33] <strategy> Orchid`, i dunno man im sorry :'-(
[03:33] <Orchid`> haha i know.
[03:33] <Orchid`> it jsut really blows harxddcore.
[03:33] <strategy> ?
[03:33] <Orchid`> worked with people in #winehq on it as well, trying to get the drive to read SPORE and such
[03:33] <Orchid`> and then the audio issue resulting
[03:33] <strategy> heh
[03:33] <DCPomeroy> can someone help me install adobe reader?
[03:34] <karlNY> DCPomeroy: apt-get install xpdf? or evince?
[03:34] <overrider> can anyone recommend a good project management software? thanks
[03:34] <DCPomeroy> karlNY, do either have a browser plug in?
[03:34] <karlNY> I need to build a liveCD image to serve over the network to clients... with the right tools <-- what tool?
[03:35] <karlNY> DCPomeroy: doubt it - they'd pop open as a separate app, from your browser;s menu "what should I open this file with"
[03:35] <karlNY> so anytime you click a .PDF, in say Firefox, it would say a) save file b) open it with evince ?
[03:35] <DCPomeroy> karlNY, i wanted adobe for the browser window, i have document viewer
[03:36] <merther> Has anyone tried Dropbox?  Does it work well?
[03:44] <karlNY> I need to build a liveCD image to serve over the network to clients... with the right tools <-- what tool -- live-package? Other???
[03:44] <ledoyen> does anyone here use sonata to play mp3?
[03:44] <ledoyen> i need some help!
[03:45] <ledoyen> i'm not able to add mp3 or to play any at all, what is the problem. does it not support mp3s or am i just f*cking lame??
[03:46] <mohadib> is it possible based on device name to get the scsi host,channel,id,lun info?
[03:46] <mohadib> for a hard drive
[03:46] <karlNY> scsi or raid?
[03:46] <mohadib> scsi, non-raid
[03:46] <danbhfive> !blkid | mohadib is this it?
[03:48] <Denise> okay
[03:48] <Dat1> When will the chat logs be updated, I want to find a link from yesterday
[03:48] <karlNY> yo mohadib
[03:49] <karlNY> mohadib: try "lsscsi"
[03:49] <mohadib> danbhfive: doesnt seem to show the scsi info, but thanks
[03:49] <mohadib> karlNY: ill check it out now
[03:49] <mohadib> thanks
[03:49] <mohadib> ahhh!
[03:50] <mohadib> that rocks, thanks karlNY
[03:50]  * karlNY bows: but of course, monsieur mohadib!
[03:50] <mohadib> :)
[03:50] <myron> has anyone here had any experience using krita?
[03:53] <remu> hey everyone, ive got an hp dv4t with an intel ich9 family soundcard, does anyone have experience with a similar setup? my sound stutters/loops
[03:53] <mohadib> i have an intel ich9 card
[03:54] <mohadib> seems to work ok
[03:54] <mohadib> are you running a sound dameon>?
[03:54] <mohadib> like esd or somesuch pluseaudio?
[03:54] <remu> i dont know, the problem started with a clean install
[03:54] <remu> i just got the laptop
[03:55] <mohadib> what applications do it?
[03:55] <temp123> hello
[03:55] <temp123> i have banshee for playing audio