[03:04] <Hexidigital> __Caleb_:: there's 7 files there.... rc0.d - rc6.d, plus rc.local... any ideas?
[03:04] <LjL> sproingie: that's not too far from what OS X does though, i think, though i'm not familiar with OS X. also, it's made to *not* be incompatible
[03:04] <ketetha_> poje, OHH! thats pretty coool. my background is solid. haha let me change that
[03:04] <Jamo> *the latter is insane
[03:04] <ketetha_> poje, okk thanks :)
[03:05] <poje> ketetha_: yeah it's pretty neat :)
[03:05] <LjL> sproingie: solaris != ubuntu.  then again, even ubuntu might handle that just fine, i just wouldn't recommend it myself until i see evidence that it works.
[03:05] <Jamo> LjL: point being, the obfuscation of directories and commands in linux is a significant turn off to new users, something the linux community tries to attract
[03:05] <sproingie> LjL: /usr is a symlink on my debian boxes, and it's never had a problem.  i can't imagine ubuntu is different
[03:05] <ketetha_> poje, hahah1 my face is on the terminal. thats aweomse
[03:05] <poje> Why are we arguing about short names? They are there for ease of use, not ease of understanding ;)
[03:05] <paied> "something the linux community tries to attract"
[03:05] <paied> i personally do not want linux taking over the world =p
[03:05] <sproingie> LjL: you have to go through some lengths to actually treat a symlink as a symlink and not what it's pointing to
[03:06] <paied> let microsoft take all the kicks in the balls.
[03:06] <LjL> Jamo: i talked about using symlinks (non syslinks ;) for *directories*, not for commands. and i didn't really "recommend" it, either
[03:06] <Jamo> paied: no? particular distros have the intention, especially unbuntu? no?
[03:06] <ketetha_> poje, the new XGL stuff can be found in packages?
[03:06] <poje> !XGL
[03:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:06] <paied> yeah  =(
[03:06] <__Caleb_> Hexidigital: rc.conf is what it is
[03:06] <ketetha_> poje, merci :)
[03:07] <Hexidigital> hmm
[03:07] <poje> ketetha_: no problems
[03:07] <darkphader> trying to grasp backports
[03:07] <Jamo> point being, I don't name my variables usr in my programs, linux shouldn't either
[03:07] <paied> just saying =\
[03:07] <poje> Jamo: my iteration variables are named i ;)
[03:07] <paied> the higher the monkey climbs the more his ass shows.
[03:07] <darkphader> it seems some packages get updated without backports
[03:07] <Mike-X2> Hi all
[03:07] <Jamo> poje, how dare you!
[03:07] <ketetha_> poje, whats the perpose of XGL
[03:07] <darkphader> others only through backports
[03:07] <ketetha_> poje, wait dont answer lthat le tme keep reading
[03:07] <LjL> Jamo: another point: those "ugly" and short directory names have been traditionally used on Unix system since ages. changing that (besides the symlinks tricks we've talked about) would break compatibility a lot. the idea is that the important this is that the names for the directories are *standard* -- given that, what the names are exactly bears little importance. anyway, we should continue discussing this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:07] <digitalhav0c> poje,  you running 6.06 lts i've got the best guide to xgl and compiz
[03:08] <poje> Jamo: there is a place for everything, and giving users a quick map between the actual names and their abbreviations is really all that's needed
[03:08] <paied> ugly and short file paths are better than mac os.
[03:08] <paied> /Application Data weeee
[03:08] <sproingie> windows uses ".exe" at the end of executables, which doesn't strike me as any less arbitrary
[03:08] <sproingie> we all have traditions, some are more worth changing than others
[03:08] <LjL> everybody: we're offtopic, let's bring this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:08] <poje> digitalhav0c: I'm going to put it in once I get my desktop onto Dapper, for now I'm on my OLD laptop - however, shoot me a link, I'd appreciate it
[03:09] <Mike-X2> didnt know there was a GAIM for windows:D
[03:09] <digitalhav0c> http://tazforum.thetazzone.com/viewtopic.php?t=2189 > best xgl tutorial gest everythign working plus more
[03:09] <digitalhav0c> gets
[03:09] <poje> Mike-X2: pfft, how do you think I use Windows then? ;d
[03:09] <digitalhav0c> everything
[03:09] <tylerj> How exactly do you get a virus in ubuntu?
[03:09] <ketetha_> is there a button to open the terminal from anywhere you are? besides ctrl alt f1
[03:09] <poje> tylerj: users. ;)
[03:09] <synd2> Can I configure Terminal to do true transparency?
[03:09] <Mike-X2> poje::)
[03:09] <sproingie> poje: users are a disease.  we ... are the cure
[03:09] <poje> ketetha_: go to system, prefs, kb shortcuts
[03:09] <poje> sproingie: \m/,
[03:10] <tylerj> poje: users as in?
[03:10] <poje> digitalhav0c: appreciated :)
[03:10] <Meshica7> Hello folks!
[03:10] <poje> tylerj: no matter how much security you build in, users will find a way to smoke their box
[03:10] <Mike-X2> runnin a win-machine and ubuntu-machine
[03:10] <tylerj> poje: oh...ok
[03:10] <Hwyvar> sproingie poje: users are a disease.  we ... are the cure .. operation succes, patient died
[03:10] <sproingie> poje: also phrased as "no matter how idiotproof you make it, god invents a better idiot"
[03:11] <poje> sproingie: indeed ;d
[03:11] <poje> It's okay though, we all do it sometime
[03:11] <Mike-X2> consider installin ubuntu or gentoo 2006 on win-machine instead of XP
[03:11] <sproingie> we're all idiots at something
[03:11] <Meshica7> I am new to Ubuntu and have a questio about installing on the PPC platform.Is anyone free to lend a hand?
[03:11] <poje> Mike-X2: ubuntu is the better choice unless you have a LOT of time waiting for stuff to emerge - ubuntu is a snap to get up and running
[03:12] <ketetha_> poje, thanks :)
[03:12] <poje> ketetha_: de rien :)
[03:12] <sproingie> the hell ... what happened to xchat's settings?
[03:12] <Mike-X2> poje: i know:)
[03:13] <sproingie> i want to auto-perform nickserv identify and i can't find anything for it
[03:13] <digitalhav0c> xgl & compiz are much better now
[03:13] <digitalhav0c> i haven't crashed yet
[03:13] <Mike-X2> sproingie: drop X-chat and use gaim
[03:13] <Asaga> does anyone know how to install programs in ubuntu
[03:13] <Asaga> i'm having trouble with it
[03:13] <digitalhav0c> only problems i have when trying to play games
[03:13] <sproingie> Mike-X2: for irc.  you must be joking.
[03:13] <digitalhav0c> Asaga, apt-get install
[03:13] <synd2> Can I configure Terminal to do true transparency?
[03:13] <Asaga> okay
[03:14] <digitalhav0c> sudo apt-get install
[03:14] <Asaga> thanks
[03:14] <digitalhav0c> sudo apt-get install k3b
[03:14] <Whil> ummmm I have a problem. No gnome control center.
[03:14] <Asaga> wait
[03:14] <poje> synd2: XGL :)
[03:14] <Mike-X2> sproingie: lol
[03:14] <Asaga> those are commands?
[03:14] <digitalhav0c> sudo apt-get install  <program name>
[03:14] <synd2> poje: XGL?
[03:14] <sproingie> i might drop it to use konversation instead, but i'm sticking out gnome for a while now
[03:14] <digitalhav0c> synd2, no
[03:14] <digitalhav0c> other than xgl
[03:14] <poje> sproingie: irssi ;)
[03:14] <Asaga> okay, and where do i imput that?
[03:14] <Ignite_> sproingie, are you using the gnome version? if so uninstall it and install xchat like "sudo apt-get install xchat" :P
[03:14] <digitalhav0c> thats what im trying to figure out now
[03:14] <sproingie> actually i might just switch back to the old standby, chatzilla
[03:14] <poje> !xgl
[03:14] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:15] <Whil> sproingie: i use konversation in gnome
[03:15] <digitalhav0c> i want a fixed eterm with true transperancy on the desktop
[03:15] <synd2> poje: Thanks
[03:15] <Mike-X2> how do I know if headers is in right place??
[03:15] <digitalhav0c> like i've seen in some screen shots
[03:15] <Meshica7> I want to install Ubuntu onto a free internal HD (10 Gig) on my Mac so I can have a dual boot system.Using the installer on the Live CD,how do I accomplish this?
[03:15] <Mike-X2> to install Nvidia
[03:15] <bernielomax> hmm, what is the best python editor under ubuntu? beside vim and emacs?
[03:15] <ax> has anyone here installed ubuntu on a usb drive using something like debootstrap? (i'm wanting to install from a debian box)
[03:16] <Jamo> can I extract a tar.gz with the GUI as a power user? *all I can do now is right click it as my user
[03:16] <sproingie> i've used debootstrap, not for a usb drive tho
[03:16] <poje> Jamo: I would say to use the CLI...
[03:16] <digitalhav0c> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/MiddleBrooker/screen.jpg
[03:16] <digitalhav0c> how do i do that in gnome 2.14
[03:16] <digitalhav0c> thats what i want
[03:17] <Whil> whats a cli?
[03:17] <MenZa> !cli
[03:17] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:17] <ax> sproingie: do you know of documentation for how to do it? [debootstrap an ubuntu install] ?
[03:17] <Jamo> whil: command line input
[03:17] <basketcase3> Can anyone solve a problem I'm having booting ubuntu on a G3 iMac? It loads fine, until it gets to "Confinguring Power Managment", then the screen goes black.
[03:17] <MenZa> interface, Jamo .
[03:17] <Whil> jamo: thanks
[03:17] <Jamo> :(
[03:17] <poje> Hehehe
[03:17] <MenZa> digitalhav0c: isn't that blackbox?
[03:17] <Meatwad> that's blackbox, not gnome
[03:17] <poje> digitalhav0c: GAH! Why would you want that? I can't read the text
[03:18] <digitalhav0c> other than that i just want a fixed terminal on desktop
[03:18] <Dagataka> will the 2.6.18 kernel be in Dapper?
[03:18] <Jamo> poje: what happened to the user friendly'ness :(
[03:18] <digitalhav0c> poje, it looks cool duh lol
[03:18] <Whil> digitalhav0c: why not load one at startup?
[03:18] <poje> Jamo: honestly...file-roller has a little ways to go
[03:18] <sproingie> ax: hm, i did it for installing a 32bit chroot on amd64.  should be the same idea though
[03:18] <fiveiron> hey is it possible to get an internal 5.25" hd enclosure for an IDE hdd, and kind of "hot-swap" drives in it?
[03:18] <sproingie> !chroot
[03:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about chroot - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:18] <digitalhav0c> Whil, how would i get it to load in the same location
[03:18] <poje> Jamo: and I never said linux was user friendly ;) - it is a harsh mistress
[03:19] <poje> digitalhav0c: haha, conceded, but usability >>> cool factor
[03:19] <sproingie> meh.  the bot is no help.
[03:19] <aajvs99> word
[03:19] <digitalhav0c> lol
[03:19] <aajvs99> sup nerr
[03:19] <basketcase3>  Can anyone solve a problem I'm having booting ubuntu on a G3 iMac? It loads fine, until it gets to "Confinguring Power Managment", then the screen goes black.
[03:19] <Whil> digitalhav0c: Assuming it started where you wanted it, it would load there each and every time.
[03:19] <digitalhav0c> whil
[03:19] <digitalhav0c> oh
[03:19] <ax> i gues i odn't know exactly how debootstrap works but i see that there are scripts for particular debian installs, i figure i've gotta find the same for ubuntu huh?
[03:20] <Whil> digitalhav0c: Sorry wasn't much help there
[03:20] <sproingie> ax: you should be able to follow the debian instructions and just substitute ubuntu mirrors and distribution names
[03:20] <sproingie> ax: like "dapper" instead of "etch"
[03:20] <ax> okay, i'll try :)
[03:21] <Whil> I still can't find my gnome control panel.
[03:21] <Mike-X2> how do i know if kernel-headers is in the right place for installin nvidia????????
[03:21] <Whil> IE I don't have anything under preferences or administration for it.
[03:22] <ketetha_> brb
[03:22] <ax> sproingie: debootstrap complains : "No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/dapper"
[03:22] <sproingie> Whil: if you install kernel-headers, it should create the proper links for you
[03:22] <Whil> sproingie: Okay I'll try it. Thanks.
[03:22] <sproingie> ax: you have to adapt one of the existing scripts. i just ran debootstrap from scratch
[03:23] <ax> okay
[03:23] <Jamo> using tar can I untar to another folder?
[03:23] <Mike-X2> how do i know if kernel-headers is in the right place for installin nvidia????????
[03:23] <Dr4g> sudo apt-get install curl <-- this installs curl + libcurl ?
[03:23] <poje> Jamo: I don't think you can
[03:24] <Jamo> poje: thx for the confirmation
[03:24] <sproingie> ax: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[03:24] <sproingie> ax: that's for setting up a 32bit chroot in 64bit, but it's basically the same idea
[03:24] <poje> Jamo: try -C
[03:25] <poje> Jamo: the man page is not terrible helpful on this point, I was trying to do this a while ago
[03:25] <sproingie> ax: i don't know that those actually install a kernel tho, so you'll have to look that up
[03:27] <cpare> Hello all
[03:27] <zomorf_> I'm following a guide about making my ubuntu machine into a gateway using webmin... I have downloaded the webmin package in tar.gz format and uncompressed it... IT then says you need a "libnet-ssleay-perl" package and installl using "sudo apt-get install libnet-ssleay-perl" when I run this command I get the following error message
[03:27] <Kirk> Is there a "find" command in vi?
[03:27] <ax> once you install one ubuntu distro is it hard to upgrade?
[03:28] <Dr4g> Remote Desktop, can people connect to me over the internet?
[03:28] <Dr4g> or just locally
[03:28] <cpare> looking for some help cleaning up directory contents
[03:28] <zomorf_> root@ubuntu:/home/zomorfubuntu # sudo apt-get install libnet-ssleay-perl
[03:28] <zomorf_> Reading package lists... Done
[03:28] <zomorf_> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:28] <zomorf_> E: Couldn't find package libnet-ssleay-perl
[03:28] <zomorf_> root@ubuntu:/home/zomorfubuntu #
[03:28] <ax> i'm just wondering if i need to instal dapper or if i can install an older one so that i see scripts for for debootstrap?
[03:28] <poje> Kirk: Check out man vim, I can't remember off hand
[03:28] <LjL> !paste
[03:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:28] <cpare> I need to dump everything ending in .thumb.jpg
[03:28] <Dr4g> (02:28:07) Dr4g: Remote Desktop, can people connect to me over the internet?
[03:28] <Dr4g> (02:28:07) Dr4g: or just locally
[03:28] <LjL> !info libnet-ssleay-perl
[03:28] <ubotu> libnet-ssleay-perl: Perl module for Secure Sockets Layer (SSL). In repository main, is optional. Version 1.25-2build1 (dapper), package size 180 kB, installed size 948 kB
[03:28] <cpare> anyone have an easy way to search for these, and drop them all from shell
[03:29] <snoops> anyone know about using freenx and nx client to connect to the current x session (or the one of your choice) rather than it just creating a new one?
[03:29] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[03:29] <proxosi> hi guys.
[03:29] <poje> cpare: you want to do what with all the .thumb.jpgs?
[03:29] <LjL> zomorf_: perhaps you don't have any internet repository enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:29] <zomorf_> LjL I'm running ubuntu v5.04
[03:29] <LjL> zomorf_: oh
[03:29] <proxosi> wen i boot ubuntu from my other partition .. it gave me a error screen.. and im in the prompt screen no matter wat
[03:30] <LjL> zomorf_: well same thing
[03:30] <LjL> !info libnet-ssleay-perl hoary
[03:30] <ubotu> libnet-ssleay-perl: Perl module for Secure Sockets Layer (SSL). In repository main, is optional. Version 1.25-1ubuntu0.2 (hoary), package size 173 kB, installed size 948 kB
[03:30] <cpare> poje - cleaning up an old Gallery install
[03:30] <cpare> poje - and these are thumbnails
[03:30] <zomorf_> could I download this package and install manually then?
[03:30] <poje> poje: so do you want to delete them, put them in a tar, or what?
[03:30] <poje> Ahhh
[03:30] <poje> cpare: delete, tar, what?
[03:30] <cpare> poje - delete them all
[03:30] <LjL> zomorf_: again, you probably don't have internet repositories enabled. have a look at /etc/apt/sources.list and see how much of it is commented out.  by the way, *webmin* itself is in the repos, so i'm not sure i understand why you're downloading it from a third party
[03:31] <LjL> !tell zomorf_ about repos
[03:31] <cpare> poje - I tried rm `locate *.thumb.jpg`
[03:31] <poje> rm -rf / *.thumb.jpg
[03:31] <LjL> !tell zomorf_ about packages
[03:31] <rpedro> cpare: try 'man find' , it's got other useful uses
[03:31] <cpare> poje but it gave me a Argument list too long
[03:31] <poje> rpedro: yeah, but he doesn't need to do something fancy
[03:31] <poje> cpare: uhh hold on
[03:32] <poje> Oh
[03:32] <cpare> poje - rpedro - I think I need to do a For Each
[03:32] <poje> cpare: cd /;rm -rf *.thumb.jpg
[03:32] <ax> would someone mind sending me, or posting the "dapper" script from sr/lib/debootstrap/scripts
[03:32] <ketetha_> back
[03:32] <rcguzon> jsgotanco: iniba ko na screen name ko pra mag reflect sa pangalan ko
[03:32] <Kirk> brb
[03:32] <ax> that should be /user/lib/ ....
[03:32] <regeya> cpare: 'man find' so you know what you're doing, but I'd recommend find /some/path -type -f -name "*.thumb.jpg" -print0 | xargs -0 rm
[03:32] <Mike-X2> how do i know if kernel-headers is in the right place for installin nvidia????????
[03:33] <cpare> regeya - I think this is what I was after, although the other suggestions would work
[03:33] <Jamo> great so sun-java5-jdk ended with Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), now it thinks it is installed, but it is not
[03:34] <merlander> hey - i've got a network problem - my wireless card is up on ra0 and I can ping things in a shell, but that's it - wget, firefox, gaim get stuck connecting to servers - any ideas?
[03:34] <NetwrkMonkey> I'm having issues with the clock time on my dapper server creeping up.. I'm not running ntp i have acpi off and the noapic settings set
[03:34] <poje> merlander: do you need to login to the network? the wifi access at my school does that until you login
[03:34] <rcguzon> ls
[03:34] <NetwrkMonkey> is there a bug with clock creep?
[03:35] <rcguzon> ./ConsoleOne
[03:35] <merlander> poje: no - well, it's encrypted with wpa, but the connection comes up
[03:36] <rcguzon> ./c1-install
[03:36] <rcguzon> y
[03:36] <scythe> anyone have a way disable the lid switch detection on acpid?
[03:36] <Flannel> NetwrkMonkey: computer clocks are just fickle, which is why ntp/etc was created.
[03:37] <scythe> other than taking the switch out of the laptop?
[03:37] <eegore|> hello?
[03:37] <poje> merlander: then I have no idea, coz I haven't used WPA on linux ;d
[03:37] <merlander> ah well...I dunno then
[03:37] <Flannel> eegore|: Howdy
[03:38] <scythe> or even better, has anyone discovered (or know) how to keep a laptop from stepping down in speed when my screen is closed?
[03:38] <GTroy_> what's an easy way to intall a vpn to ssh into my box?
[03:38] <Whil> can someone tell me what the egg_desktop error means?
[03:38] <soop> scythe: check your bios/cmos settings
[03:39] <GTroy_> !vpn
[03:39] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[03:39] <scythe> no settings in my bios for it soop, its a freaking locked down sony vaio, they wont let you do a dang thing from the bios
[03:41] <scythe> the system steps down to 600 mhz when I dont have acpid running, jumps to 1200 (where it should be) when i run acpid, but then drops when I close the lid (using an external monitor).  I can find where it detects the lid is open or closed (/proc/apci/lid/LID(something)/)
[03:41] <viator> anyone get these videos to work on your linux box?
[03:41] <Jamo> how do I set JDK_HOME ?
[03:41] <viator> http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/german/talk/introductions/index.shtml
[03:41] <ragelka02> hola
[03:41] <viator> i cant not with
[03:41] <NetwrkMonkey> thanks Flannel
[03:41] <viator> vlc mplayer realplayer
[03:41] <viator> or totem
[03:42] <viator> have the w32codecs
[03:42] <ragelka02> is thete someone from venezuela?
[03:42] <scythe> or  xine with the w32codecs
[03:42] <viator> it starts plays the audio
[03:42] <viator> but the video only shows black screen
[03:42] <viator> weird
[03:42] <poje> Jamo: export JDK_HOME=/path
[03:42] <viator> i can play other videos
[03:43] <viator> though
[03:43] <viator> some on the same bbc site
[03:43] <viator> but those only work in windows for some reason
[03:43] <scythe> can anyone tell me why when I install kde on ubuntu, it runs faster than when I run it on kubuntu?  is there a huge difference in kdm vs gdm?
[03:44] <hoov> Install issue/question: I'm trying to install dapper on a inspiron 1100 laptop.  When it boots the live cd, I get 640x480 of usable screen.  The problem is, when I start the installer, the bottom buttons are not visable, so cannot progress onward.  I booted again and chose "graphics safe mode" and x failed to start and I recieved a bunch of garbled text.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[03:44] <eobanb> hoov, alt click on window
[03:44] <eobanb> you can drag it around
[03:44] <eobanb> even above the top bar
[03:45] <hoov> eobanb: thank you!
[03:45] <sproingie> hoov: use the alternative cd and you can pick a resolution
[03:46] <Mike-X2> flash
[03:46] <Mike-X2> how do i install flash on dapper
[03:46] <scythe> anyone have much luck with breezy on a laptop, I am having speedstep problems
[03:47] <basis> anyone able to use rhythmbox to listen to stations at www.somafm.com ?
[03:47] <poje> !flash
[03:47] <Mike-X2> have installed linux32 and linux-headers
[03:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:48] <poje> Man I hope macromedia gets off their ass and gets flash9 out the door soon
[03:48] <poje> I've been hearing end of the year/jan for a linux beta
[03:48] <Jamo> where does ubuntu install packages such as java? I need to set JDK_HOME or something
[03:48] <Whil> macromedia? Snicker
[03:48] <poje> Jamo: should have installed where it wants to go
[03:48] <Tarantulafudge> how do I create a 50% partition
[03:49] <poje> Whil: heh yeah ;(
[03:49] <poje> Jamo: sdk or jre?
[03:49] <Jamo> jdk
[03:49] <javb> i cant find the way to restart my samba service on Ubuntu 6.06 ... it is not on /etc/init.d/smb ... i am putting my workgroup in /etc/samba/smb.conf. .. but it wont work.. any ideas?
[03:49] <viator> yeah where is flash nine anyway?
[03:49] <Meatwad> Jamo:  my java can be accessed through system--> preferences
[03:49] <viator> it was supposed to be out forver ago
[03:50] <viator> alot of stuff doesnt work with flash 78
[03:50] <viator> 7*
[03:50] <poje> Jamo: hmm...I remember installing the jdk...I think it was in a self contained directory, so just put that where you want
[03:50] <Jamo> Meat; that isn't the stuff I'm looking for
[03:50] <squidgy> Hi.  I am suddenly getting "Grub Error 17" on a dual-boot system that I've successfully booted into before.  I'm typing this from a LiveCD.  Can anyone please help me get back online?
[03:50] <Meatwad> ah, sorry
[03:50] <poje> And either make an alias for it or...I dunno
[03:50] <merlander> further networking weirdness - I can get networking on my wireless link working only if I put a false dns server in the dhcp config file, causing a huge delay in name resolution - if I don't have the false dns server there it gets stuck connecting (but can resolve)
[03:50] <Jamo> poje: I used apt-get to install it, now an application can't find java even though I can't just type java
[03:51] <poje> Jamo: export JDK_HOME=/path/to/the/bin/dir
[03:51] <poje> Jamo: do you know how to update the locate database?
[03:51] <Jamo> poje: I don't know where the bin dir is, I'm looked all over
[03:51] <Jamo> poje: I don't know what that is or how it is applicable
[03:52] <poje> Jamo: do slocate -u, then slocate javac
[03:52] <philipacamaniac> I can't get 3D acceleration to work using fglrx and an ATI Radeon 9700 pro
[03:53] <Jamo> poje: /usr/share/vim/vim64/compiler, wtf
[03:53] <crogue5> philipacamaniac, i have not been able to do it on mine either, in multiple distros
[03:53] <javb> i cant find the way to restart my samba service on Ubuntu 6.06 ... it is not on /etc/init.d/smb ... i am putting my workgroup in /etc/samba/smb.conf. .. but it wont work.. any ideas?
[03:53] <crogue5> philipacamaniac, i gave up on it, hehe
[03:53] <philipacamaniac> crogue5: It used to work in hoary and breezy
[03:53] <poje> Jamo: those were the only results?
[03:53] <crogue5> not sure what to tell ya,. i never used either of them, dapper is my first
[03:53] <philipacamaniac> And I think I had it working for a little while in dapper, but then I upgraded my motherboard, and now I can't get anything
[03:54] <bimberi> javb: /etc/init.d/samba  ??
[03:54] <squidgy> I'm unable to boot into my system due to "Grub Error 17".  Grub won't even show me a boot menu.  Any ideas?
[03:54] <javb> bimberi ... what? i just want to know where is my samba service? :-/ ... cant find it.. i just find the conf file..
[03:54] <viator> error 17?
[03:54] <Geoffrey2> what's the shortcut to reveal hidden directories in file manager?
[03:54] <spades> ctrl h
[03:55] <viator> make sure in your bios that its not set on auto that it has your harddrive listed instead of auto
[03:55] <Jamo> pojo: that was for javac, yes, java is all over the place
[03:55] <bimberi> javb: sudo invoke-rc.d samba resart
[03:55] <viator> got a usb drive?
[03:55] <javb> i eddited the conf file, adding my MS workgroup here in my house, i restarted and wualla, there it was.. but now, it is not :s
[03:55] <sproingie> wualla?
[03:55] <squidgy> viator:  yes, "Grub error 17", with no additional info.  I haven't made any BIOS or grub changes, except that I updated to a newer kernel.
[03:55] <poje> Jamo: it looks like it didn't install then (assuming you updated the locate database)
[03:55] <JohnnyFive> Anyone hear about the new OSX-style dock released for Ubuntu in the past few days?
[03:55] <javb> bimberi --> javb@javb-laptop:~$ sudo invoke-rc.d samba resart
[03:55] <javb> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/samba not found.
[03:55] <Geoffrey2> spades, thanks :)
[03:55] <Jamo> poje: the culprit seems to be in /usr/lib/jvm/.... (that is, java)
[03:56] <squidgy> viator:  I do.  This *is* the first time I've booted with the external usb drive plugged in.
[03:56] <viator> try unplugging the usb
[03:56] <selfharm> help : \ i repaired my windows installation, it was complaining that some dll was busted after i installed ubuntu. part of the rapair, it got rid of grub, or overwrote it, so now i dont get ubuntu as a boot option anymore, but i still have ubuntu isntalled on a partition. any way for me to get it back?
[03:56] <harisund> people I need a quick help. I reinstalled Windows in my dual boot box, and now lost Ubuntu. how do I reinstall Grub?
[03:56] <selfharm> ^^
[03:56] <harisund> with breezy I could boot with the install CD, use the advanced installer and go straight to the Grub installation
[03:57] <squidgy> viator:  it hadn't occurred to me, but that's probably it.  Will the BIOS change eliminate this problem in the future, enabling me to boot with the external HD plugged in?
[03:57] <bimberi> javb: what do you want to do?  connect to a windows share?
[03:57] <sproingie> harisund: you probably could still do it with the breezy cd
[03:57] <viator> most likely :)
[03:57] <fiveiron> anyone have an ati tv wonder pro?
[03:57] <harisund> sproingie do you think it will wrk? Different kernel and all that? Will it still identify both my Dapper and Windows installatoin?
[03:57] <javb> Yes.. there is a workgroup here.. and i want to join and browes everything shared.
[03:57] <javb> Yes.. there is a workgroup here.. and i want to join and browes everything shared. bimberi
[03:58] <sproingie> harisund: if you just go straight to grub
[03:58] <squidgy> viator:  Many thanks.  I'll go try this now (I have to reboot since I'm typing from a livecd on the same system.)
[03:58] <phaedrus44> any advice on how to install mplayer?
[03:58] <viator> goodluck
[03:58] <squidgy> viator:  adios.
[03:58] <poje> Jamo: okay so how did you install the jdk?
[03:58] <selfharm> can grub be installed off of a livecd?
[03:58] <bimberi> javb: have you preciously connected?  if so, see if there are entries in the Places menu
[03:59] <harisund> sproingie ok .. I am going to take your word for it and give it a try
[03:59] <NetGuru_> first time linux user
[03:59] <viator> yes self
[03:59] <viator> or i think form
[03:59] <sproingie> harisund: i offer no guarantees.  if it breaks you get to keep both pieces
[03:59] <viator> your install cd
[03:59] <viator> as well
[03:59] <NetGuru_> got a small prob
[03:59] <javb> bimberi, come one.. I AM ON A LAN.
[03:59] <CrazyDoode> NetGuru_: welcome!!1
[03:59] <Jamo> poje: apt-get install sun-java5-jdk, it had me manually install the jre as well the same way before it would work
[03:59] <selfharm> can i install grub without reinstalling ubuntu?
[03:59] <poje> phaedrus44: roll your own, I haven't seen any debian builds
[03:59] <sproingie> harisund: i've run random versions of grub from random recovery cd's, so it'll *probably* work
[03:59] <viator> yes
[03:59] <phaedrus44> ok
[03:59] <NetGuru_> trying to get live cd working
[03:59] <selfharm> viator, thanks
[04:00] <phaedrus44> bad burn NETGURU?
[04:00] <NetGuru_> but it wont boot on my pc
[04:00] <bimberi> javb: good luck
[04:00] <NetGuru_> hangs
[04:00] <bimberi> !attitude
[04:00] <Jamo> selfharm: try searching for a floppy boot to do just that?
[04:00] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:00] <javb> bimberi, thank you very much.
[04:00] <phaedrus44> what is yer pc NetGuru?.....
[04:00] <NetGuru_> hangs with "mounting root file system" drive
[04:01] <NetGuru_> on my friends pc no prb
[04:01] <selfharm> jamo, floppy?
[04:01] <selfharm> whats that?
[04:01] <Jamo> !floppy
[04:01] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[04:01] <poje> Jamo: honestly, I would try getting the jdk from sun's site and installing yourself - it'll be in a self contained dir from there and you can add symlinks/aliases to make it nice
[04:02] <pestilence> i'm using klibido with newshosting.  everytime i update a group it expires all the messages and comes up empty.  anybody know what the deal is?
[04:02] <javiolo> hi
[04:02] <viator> slefharm
[04:02] <JohnnyFive> I wish I could remember the name of the new OSX-style dock released for Ubuntu, I cant find the site now :(
[04:02] <viator> selfharm http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[04:02] <javiolo> any ubuntu fluxbox user ? how do I manage gtk2 themes ?
[04:02] <poje> JohnnyFive: o0o I want a dock
[04:02] <fiveiron> anyone have an ati tv wonder pro?
[04:02] <fiveiron> and can you capture video from it using ANYTHING
[04:02] <NetGuru_> msi board 865 pe pentium 4 1gb ram 2.4 ghz
[04:03] <JohnnyFive> poje, there is a bunch of em, but there was a new one just released this week, I saw it when I was in class today, now I cant find the link
[04:03] <sproingie> some people like the dock?  wow.
[04:03] <sproingie> i find it the most annoying piece of gratuitous eye candy in osx
[04:04] <JohnnyFive> sproingie, i wasnt refering to the crappy Compiz dock
[04:04] <JohnnyFive> I like the starterbar in Gdesklets
[04:04] <basketcase3> Can anyone help me edit my xorg.conf file for an iMacG3?
[04:04] <poje> sproingie: meh, it is kinda nice
[04:05] <basketcase3> Anyone?
[04:05] <pestilence> Hexidigital, what's so hard about that?
[04:06] <Hexidigital> pestilence:: i can't find the files (besides /etc/inittab) that i need to edit
[04:06] <pestilence> Hexidigital, inittab is for other distros.
[04:06] <Hexidigital> ah... that could be a problem
[04:06] <pestilence> Hexidigital, you just need to remove the startup scripts from /etc/rc*.d/
[04:06] <bimberi> Hexidigital: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[04:06] <pestilence> Hexidigital, update-rc.d should help
[04:06] <pestilence> there ya go ;)
[04:06] <Hexidigital> thx bimberi and pestilence
[04:07] <Hexidigital> much appreicated
[04:07] <bimberi> np :)
[04:08] <gimmulf> Hi, anyone know what video-player to use when i want to play .3gp video files from nokia phone? video is showing fine but no sound
[04:08] <squidgy> viator:  unplugging the USB drive worked, so I'm back in business.  Thanks again.  Oddly enough, there seems to be no relevant BIOS settings.  The only that even refer to HDs are "enable SATA", the boot order menu, and a drive test menu.  Do you know of another non-BIOS way to avoid having to unplug my USB drives when I boot?
[04:08] <Meatwad> are usb keys supposed to work with ubuntu?
[04:09] <proxosi> noob question.. can ubuntu 5.10 be upgrade to 6.0 drapper?
[04:09] <viator> yeah probably edit fstab but im not sure in what manor
[04:09] <viator> ask in the forums
[04:10] <pestilence> Meatwad, most of them do.
[04:10] <viator> usb keys work
[04:10] <rpedro> !upgrade
[04:10] <viator> well most do
[04:10] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[04:10] <rpedro> proxosi: ^^
[04:10] <proxosi> oh ok
[04:10] <proxosi> is all 5.1 breezy? because i go the official disc and it doesnt state it
[04:11] <pestilence> proxosi, 5.10 is
[04:11] <pestilence> 5.1 doesn't exist ;)
[04:11] <Meatwad> my usb key shows up under  system -> administration -> disks, but how do I actually access it?
[04:12] <pestilence> probably in /media
[04:12] <viator> it should show up on desktop
[04:12] <viator> try places
[04:12] <rpedro> Meatwad: Places >> Computer probably
[04:12] <] grimm[> Does anyone know how I can mount a reiser partition that is encoded in euc-jp on my utf8 ubuntu machine?
[04:13] <Meatwad> it showed up on the desktop the first time....but never again  :(
[04:13] <Hexidigital> bimberi or pestilence ok... now that worked :) thx... but one more question... how can i set it so "startx" starts KDE instead of Gnome?
[04:13] <pestilence> Hexidigital, that's probably in .xsession
[04:13] <Hexidigital> pestilence:: will take a look.. thx
[04:13] <pestilence> Hexidigital, put startkde in ~/.xsession
[04:13] <dignome> hi all.  i'm missing 'connect' and not sure what package this is in.  -> "connect: command not found"
[04:14] <Geoffrey2> I am about to install Wine from the wine repository, Synaptic says the package cannot be authenticated...is that a problem, or is it safe to install it anyway?
[04:14] <Ada1> I am running ubuntu 6.06 and I am trying to get my wireless car working using the ndiswrapper but I haven't been able to get it to work
[04:14] <ceplm> dignome: apt-cache show connect -- is it what you want?
[04:15] <viator> try hexidigital why not startkde
[04:15] <viator> instead of startx
[04:15] <bimberi> Geoffrey2: that means the package hasn't been signed by any of the keys currently loaded into APT - probably just the ubuntu ones.  I've happily installed wine despite that warning
[04:15] <viator> whoops missed me
[04:16] <pestilence> viator, you need an xserver running before that command will work, don't you
[04:16] <dignome> ceplm: nope.  package not found.
[04:16] <dignome> it must be a part of some networking package...
[04:16] <Hexidigital> pestilence:: thank you very much.. i greatly appreciate your help
[04:16] <pestilence> Hexidigital, np
[04:17] <pestilence> dignome, what program are you running that produces this error
[04:17] <dignome> vde
[04:17] <ceplm> dignome: weird, you can run http://packages.ubuntu.com/connect
[04:17] <Ada1> I am running ubuntu 6.06 and I am trying to get my wireless card working using the ndiswrapper but I haven't been able to get it to work. I have a dell 9100 with  Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g wireless card.  Can any one help me set it up?
[04:18] <rmbrain> Does anybody know anything about GNUbuntu?
[04:18] <rmbrain> Anything extra?
[04:18] <ceplm> dignome: otherwise, you can try to search for it on http://packages.ubuntu.com (the form on the bottom allows you to search for packages by their content)
[04:18] <bimberi> !broadcom
[04:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[04:18] <dignome> ceplm: ok will do.  thank you.
[04:18] <ceplm> Ada1: ndiswrapper.sf.net
[04:19] <ceplm> Ada1: or try (as root) modprobe -v bcm43xx
[04:19] <ceplm> Ada1: what happens?
[04:19] <Ada1> have already followed the instruction on the web
[04:20] <viator> i guess if you want to have KDE as your window manager edit  ~/.xinitrc
[04:20] <Ada1> its says that Installed ndis drivers:
[04:20] <Ada1> bcmwl5a         driver present, hardware present
[04:20] <dli> Ada1, use bcm43xx
[04:20] <akira> can you recommend some good linux books?
[04:20] <ceplm> Ada1: ok, so what ifconfig wlan0 up does?
[04:20] <axs221> hi, I'm having trouble resuming from hibernation on my Gateway MX3228 laptop on Dapper, any suggestions?
[04:21] <Ada1> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[04:21] <ceplm> Ada1: it is weird, because the message you get is from ndiswrapper, but you were trying bcm43xx
[04:22] <ceplm> try modprobe -r -v ndiswrapper; modprobe -r -v bcmr43xx
[04:22] <ceplm> what happens?
[04:22] <ceplm> Ada1: sorry the last module is bcm43xx
[04:22] <Ada1> FATAL: Module bcmr43xx not found.
[04:23] <axs221> the screen is blank when i try to resume from hibernation
[04:23] <ceplm> Ada1: the second command should read modprobe -r -v bcm43xx
[04:23] <arshoon> Oh great gurus of Ubuntu, I pray thee help me with my non-linx-using butt for I have installed the 64-bit server of Ubuntu and I can't get past the command line into any GUI
[04:23] <Ada1> rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko
[04:23] <Ada1> rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/net/ieee80211/softmac/ieee80211softmac.ko
[04:23] <Ada1> rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211.ko
[04:23] <Ada1> rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko
[04:23] <JohnnyFive> arshoon, that would be because the server doesnt come by default with a GUI
[04:24] <ceplm> Ada1: OK, so just to check
[04:24] <arshoon> oh? well that's kinda weird
[04:24] <ceplm> Ada1: lsmod | grep ndis
[04:24] <ceplm> Ada1: lsmod | grep bcm
[04:24] <ceplm> Ada1: what's the result
[04:24] <JohnnyFive> arshoon, most servers dont use a GUI
[04:24] <arshoon> everything is command line?
[04:24] <JohnnyFive> yes
[04:24] <Ada1> nothing
[04:24] <arshoon> hmmph
[04:24] <ceplm> Ada1: that's good!
[04:24] <arshoon> well that answers that
[04:25] <ceplm> Ada1: now run, modprobe -v bcm43xx
[04:25] <arshoon> I shall go forth and seek documentation then
[04:25] <JohnnyFive> arshoon, if you want gnome, type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" iirc
[04:25] <Dvst8> lo all
[04:25] <Ada1> that gives me the same output insmod /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko + 4lines
[04:26] <ceplm> Ada1: OK, now run ifconfig wlan0 up
[04:26] <Ada1> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[04:26] <hoov> thank you all  again for you help :) the install was successful.  however, if I could ask another question, also display related.  after the install, I still can only get 640x480.  I took a look at the xorg.conf file that was created at install and in the "screen" and "monitor" sections there are listings for 1024x 768, 800x600 and 640x480, but I only see 640x480 as an option in gnome in the screen resolution settings.  any suggestions?
[04:27] <ceplm> OK, then we know that bcm43xx doesn't work; run modprobe -r -v bcm43xx to get rid off it.
[04:27] <arshoon> thanks Johnny, I'll try that
[04:27] <Ada1> rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko
[04:27] <Ada1> with 4 other lines
[04:28] <ceplm> Ada1: Next step is to install ndiswrapper -- go to aptitude (or whatever you use for package management) and install ndiswrapper-utils and all dependencies
[04:29] <ceplm> Ada1: then go to http://ndiswrapper.sf.net and learn more (sorry, it is kind of long)
[04:29] <Ada1> I already installed the ndsiwrapper
[04:30] <ceplm> Ada1: what you get with ndiswrapper -l?
[04:30] <Ada1> Installed ndis drivers:
[04:30] <Ada1> bcmwl5a         driver present, hardware present
[04:30] <ceplm> sorry, ndiswrapper -l (question mark is not part of the command)
[04:30] <ceplm> OK, modprobe -v ndiswrapper
[04:30] <arshoon> JohnnyFive, many thanks, it's installing as I type
[04:30] <ceplm> Ada1: and if everything seems to be all right, ifconfig wlan0 up
[04:31] <JohnnyFive> arshoon, ok just reboot after thats done and it should boot into the GUI
[04:31] <Ada1> it still didn't work
[04:31] <arshoon> JohnnyFive, again, my thanks.
[04:31] <ceplm> Ada1: what's the error message? "Didn't work" is good for nothing.
[04:32] <spades> Ada1 do an iwconfig and see which devices are listed
[04:32] <ceplm> Ada1: yeah, that too
[04:32] <Ada1> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[04:32] <soop> .
[04:32] <Ada1> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"
[04:33] <Ada1> thats what I got with iwconfig
[04:33] <interfear> how do i install an ansi font that will work with bitchx? i want to use the font in gnome-terminal
[04:33] <spades> bcm driver seems to take priority over ndiswrapper for you
[04:33] <Ada1> how do I uninstall the bcm driver?
[04:35] <ceplm> Ada1: oh, cool! then run ifconfig eth1 up
[04:35] <Ada1> sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[04:35] <Ada1> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[04:36] <tailsfan> Is it normal for WINE to download as one file?
[04:36] <ceplm> Ada1: OK, we have really messed things up; go to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and to the bottom write
[04:36] <cyberbaz1> hi , how do you convert rpm to deb ?
[04:36] <ceplm> blacklist bcm43xx
[04:37] <ceplm> cyberbaz1: alien(1)
[04:37] <cyberbaz1> alien does not work
[04:37] <interfear> so anyone here know to install an ansi font in ubuntu 6.06?
[04:37] <interfear> something that will work with bitchx
[04:37] <bimberi> tailsfan: it's one package file, yes
[04:37] <acke_> hey guys, I run 5.10 and tried to update to 6.06. I got this error. Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[04:37] <acke_>  What can i do?
[04:37] <ceplm> Ada1: and you should probably reboot, because it is really messed up.
[04:37] <cyberbaz1> root@PREDATOR:/home/cyberbaze/Desktop# alien xchat-2.6.4-0.i686.rpm
[04:37] <cyberbaz1> bash: alien: command not found
[04:37] <ceplm> Ada1: sorry, before that run
[04:38] <tailsfan> K
[04:38] <ceplm> Ada1: echo "bcm43xx" >> /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[04:38] <tailsfan> I'm downloading it now
[04:38] <tailsfan> I want to see Windows again :)
[04:38] <festr> hi
[04:38] <interfear> is there another ubuntu help channel?
[04:38] <__Caleb_> probably not
[04:38] <festr> Can someone tell me how to see where my cdrom is mounted
[04:38] <ceplm> interfear: #kubuntu, if you need it
[04:38] <festr> it automounted but i need to do something from teh shell
[04:38] <bimberi> cyberbaz1: you need to install alien first.  btw, what's wrong with the ubuntu version (2.6.1)?
[04:39] <spades> festr /media/cdrom0 iirc
[04:39] <chaitu> festr, dev
[04:39] <bimberi> festr: df
[04:39] <ceplm> festr: mount
[04:39] <festr> im trying to do this tar zxf /media/cdrom0/vmware-linux-tools.tar.gz
[04:39] <festr> doesnt seem to wrok
[04:39] <festr> even with sudo
[04:39] <cpaek72> anyone have problems getting dvdrip to work? it says that i don't have all the files, but i do. I got it from automatix
[04:40] <chaitu> try tar -xvzf
[04:40] <tailsfan> cdrom0 is read-only I think
[04:40] <ceplm> festr: ls -l /media ; ls -l /media/cdrom0
[04:40] <ceplm> festr: what you get?
[04:40] <festr> im trying
[04:40] <festr> one sec
[04:40] <snoops> I'm looking for some software to use as application architecture designs, as well as project layout and architecture
[04:40] <__Caleb_> hell im trying to find out why this ubuntu cd is trying to use framebuffer
[04:40] <__Caleb_> instead of the right driver
[04:41] <selfharm> on 2! comptuers, i installed windows, then ubuntu. i can boot into ubuntu, but trying to load windows gives me a blue screen of death. does this sound familiar for anyone?
[04:41] <Ada1> echo "bcm43xx" >> /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[04:41] <Ada1> bash: /etc/hotplug/blacklist: No such file or directory
[04:41] <festr> says cdrom0
[04:41] <interfear> is anyone here using bitchx?
[04:41] <chaitu> How to design the sockets??
[04:41] <ceplm> Ada1: ls /etc/hotplug
[04:41] <festr> for ls -l /media
[04:41] <__Caleb_> interfear: use irssi
[04:41] <snoops> selfharm could you put into windows before installing ubuntu on them?
[04:41] <interfear> __Caleb_ : irssi eh..
[04:41] <__Caleb_> bitchx is outdated
[04:41] <interfear> ok.. lemme try it..
[04:41] <cius> anyone by chance know how to make konqueror start at your homepage rather than with that stupid intro screen?
[04:41] <festr> just says tar error is not recoverable
[04:41] <festr> and thats it
[04:42] <selfharm> yes, snoops. i made sure of it.
[04:42] <ceplm> festr: why not to copy whole thing somewhere to the real harddrive and then unpack there?
[04:42] <Ada1> #This causes my wireless to fail
[04:42] <Ada1> blacklist bcm43xx
[04:42] <festr> umm i did
[04:42] <festr> its isntalled for real
[04:42] <snoops> both copies blue screen selfharm?
[04:42] <Ada1> ls /etc/hotplug
[04:42] <Ada1> ls: /etc/hotplug: No such file or directory
[04:42] <festr> i am trying to follow the vmware instructions for installing ubuntu
[04:43] <festr> wife needs windows
[04:43] <cius> nm, found it
[04:43] <chaitu> festr, first u copy the files to Desktop& then go to that directory then exicute the cmd tar -xvzf filename
[04:43] <festr> ok will try
[04:43] <cius> okay, take that back, that got rid of the info screen, but it still doesn't start at my homepage
[04:43] <__Caleb_> heh Blv3Watyr you in north carolina?
[04:43] <Warbo> chaitu: I don't think the "z" is needed (makes a more generic command for tar, tar.gz and tar.bz2)
[04:43] <Blv3Watyr> sure am
[04:43] <Ada1> should I restart?
[04:43] <__Caleb_> haha me too
[04:44] <__Caleb_> what city
[04:44] <chaitu> ya correct
[04:44] <festr> they gotta work on their manuals
[04:44] <festr> they assume a lot more than a new user would know
[04:44] <festr> vmware not ubuntu
[04:44] <Blv3Watyr> morehead city
[04:44] <__Caleb_> ahh nice
[04:44] <__Caleb_> Pembroke here
[04:44] <dignome> still a no go with finding 'connect' in some package.  -> "connect: command not found"
[04:44] <Blv3Watyr> oh not far
[04:44] <selfharm> err, one blue screen, one gave me a dll error, i repaired windows on the dll error, now i need to get grub reinstalled : \ - but i just started tonight with a brand new 300gig, installed windows on a 20gig partition ntfs, installed ubuntu on a 20gig partition ext3, and created a 260gig fat32
[04:44] <festr> thank you guys for helping
[04:44] <ceplm> Ada1: OK, cool -- just reboot to clean up the mess; try also echo "alias eth1 ndiswrapper" >> /etc/modprobe.d/wireless and then reboot -- ndiswrapper should be loaded automagically
[04:45] <__Caleb_> Blv3Watyr: just installing ubuntu?
[04:45] <Blv3Watyr> eh.. using suse.. have ubuntu on hold
[04:45] <[Ex0r] > hmm
[04:45] <__Caleb_> heh nice
[04:45] <Blv3Watyr> ubuntu on cd tooo...
[04:45] <[Ex0r] > anyone here know a graphics channel on freenode ?
[04:45] <Dvst8> can anyone tell me if everquest still works in linux cedega/wine after sony upgraded to dx9.0c?...im sorry if im asking in wrong place no one else knows/ not answering :)
[04:45] <__Caleb_> what kind?
[04:45] <Blv3Watyr> wanted to learn about dapper fore dling
[04:45] <__Caleb_> ah
[04:45] <__Caleb_> what kind of graphics
[04:45] <[Ex0r] > __Caleb_, photoshop
[04:46] <__Caleb_> gimp?
[04:46] <__Caleb_> try there
[04:46] <[Ex0r] > Trying to find out how to convert low-res textures into high-res
[04:46] <ceplm> [Ex0r] : krita
[04:46] <Blv3Watyr> scale, cubic 10% increments
[04:46] <cius> Ex0r, there is no magic bullet to do such a thing that I know of
[04:46] <[Ex0r] > krita
[04:46] <[Ex0r] > ?
[04:46] <Ada1> sudo echo "alias eth1 ndiswrapper" >> /etc/modprobe.d/wireless
[04:46] <Ada1> bash: /etc/modprobe.d/wireless: Permission denied
[04:46] <Ada1> tripleclick@zapp:~/Desktop/Linux/DRIVER/R83097/AR$
[04:46] <Blv3Watyr> in gimp,
[04:47] <Blv3Watyr> scale, cubic 10% increments
[04:47] <ceplm> [Ex0r] : low-res to hi-res??? what kind of magic you use -- how should program now how to fill in the missing points?
[04:47] <Blv3Watyr> it will still be vague and blurry, but only better solution is to get new pics.. no solution for tiny images
[04:47] <ceplm> Ada1: no, you should do it as reall root -- sudo sh -l and then do it (your command was writing as normal user)
[04:48] <[Ex0r] > guy in #gimp said to get a plug-in to do it
[04:48] <chaitu> what is the diff betwween su & sudo cmd
[04:48] <Kirk> Who is planning on being here for awhile?  I'm going to be setting up a Ubuntu Breezy Badger 5.10 Server, and I will need help along the way.
[04:48] <chaitu> sudo su
[04:48] <Kirk> I think I know what I'm doing, but stand ready. :P
[04:48] <Warbo> Anyone know how to set up freepops?
[04:49] <ceplm> chaitu: sudo (in ubuntu) requires your password, su root's password (which doesn't exist per default)
[04:49] <Kirk> brb
[04:49] <chaitu> ceplm, thank u
[04:49] <tailsfan> Are there any programs that can recognize webcams?
[04:49] <ceplm> chaitu: you're welcome
[04:49] <Ada1> I will restart
[04:50] <ceplm> Ada1: good luck!
[04:50] <cius> [Ex0r] , unless you're planning on adding detail through procedural means, you're still going to have to create the missing data by hand.  There is no magic way to scale a low res image to higher res and add detail.  To do so without adding detail fairly defeats teh purpose of a hi-res texture.
[04:50] <Geoffrey2> is there any particular trick to installing a Windows application under Wine?  when I click on the .exe file, I get an "unable to display" message
[04:50] <acke_> !bot tell upgrade
[04:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about bot tell upgrade - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:51] <acke_> ^
[04:51] <[Ex0r] > cius, usually that's what plug-ins are for. Filling in the missing areas by mapping surrounding pixels
[04:51] <tailsfan> !wine
[04:51] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:51] <Dasnipa] [> Geoffrey2, might be a question for the wine guys eh?
[04:51] <acke_> !bot tell dapper
[04:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about bot tell dapper - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:51] <festr> when you switch to text only mode
[04:52] <festr> how do you switch out
[04:52] <acke_> !bot dapper
[04:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about bot dapper - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:52] <acke_> !upgrade
[04:52] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[04:52] <festr> i did control-alt f2 to get into it
[04:52] <spades> festr alt f7 or ctrl alt f7
[04:52] <chaitu> do any one know where the python discussion takes place
[04:52] <selfharm> yeah f7
[04:53] <universee> hello everyone,somebody tell me that linux has copied some codes from freebsd,is that true or false?who can tell me ,tks.
[04:53] <[Ex0r] > chaitu, #python
[04:53] <ceplm> chaitu: google -- python irc channel
[04:53] <chaitu> 1m
[04:53] <festr> bingo thank you
[04:53] <cius> [Ex0r] , depending on the resp;ution you're working with, you might get some approximated detail by approximating the color of new pixels, but it will likely result in a slightly blurry image, nothing sharp.
[04:53] <festr> it was control-alt f7
[04:53] <festr> appreciate it
[04:53] <cius> resolution*
[04:53] <ceplm> [Ex0r] : I am not sure, whether it isn't on other IRC net.
[04:53] <festr> got tired of rebooting :0
[04:53] <tailsfan> Where would wine be in the menu?
[04:53] <Kirk> I'm back.
[04:54] <[Ex0r] > cius, I am trying to to take duke nukem 3d textures and get them high-resolution so that when I map the maps in hammer editor (half-life 2 level editor), they look right and not like they were made in 95
[04:54] <chaitu> how to create a socket
[04:54] <universee> hello everyone,somebody tell me that linux has copied some codes from freebsd,is that true or false?who can tell me ,tks.
[04:54] <chaitu> i am learning python
[04:55] <Ropechoborra> Command to change directories name???
[04:55] <bimberi> mv old new
[04:56] <ceplm> universee: what's your point? you mean kernel or utilities?
[04:56] <ceplm> chaitu: why do you need to do it?
[04:56] <cius> [Ex0r] , I dare say that they'll still look like they were made in 95.  sampling up to scale won't give you more detail.  best case scanrio would be to run some filter or other procedural on it.  Could give you new effects, but its not going to go from old and busted to new hotness.  :-/
[04:56] <universee> ceplm,kernel
[04:56] <chaitu> i want to communicate with my friends system
[04:56] <[Ex0r] > cius, found a link on slashdot talking about procedural synthesizing
[04:57] <ceplm> universee: I don't think so, or if so nothing that much important
[04:57] <chaitu> ceplm, just communication
[04:57] <ceplm> universee: FreeBSD is Unix, whereas most of the stuff in Linux is slightly different
[04:57] <cius> [Ex0r] , yea, procedurals are all the rage these days thanks to 'ole Will Wright and Spore
[04:58] <chaitu> ceplm, sorry i am going
[04:58] <[Ex0r] > looks like you can use it to upgrade pictures
[04:58] <Matetonto> hi
[04:58] <ceplm> universee: I am not sure, but it seems to me that Net was already three times rewritten in Linux, so if there is something left from FreeBSD, then it would not be much
[04:58] <Matetonto> at the end I got ubuntu with wpa wireless xD
[04:58] <Matetonto> i was getting mad
[04:59] <boxgamex> BSD you say?
[04:59] <boxgamex> I'm on a Mac mini - CPU: 1 x PowerPC G4 - Speed: 1.25 GHz - RAM Usage: 323 MB / 512 MB [||||||----]  - Disk Space: 37.13 GB with 9.88 GB Free - Running: Mac OS X 10.4.7 (8J135) - Processes: 68 - Uptime: 22:59  up 5 days, 17 mins, 2 users, load averages: 0.14 0.23 0.28
[04:59] <boxgamex> :P
[04:59] <SurfnKid> thru interfaces? or nm?
[05:00] <ceplm> universee: do you have /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/*/NET3-4-HOWTO* ??
[05:00] <ceplm> universee: in the beginning it has history of Linux Networking
[05:00] <SurfnKid> Matetonto, howd ya get wpa going
[05:00] <cius> [Ex0r] , I do remember hearing something a while back about using procedural methods to extract detail out of low-res pics, but I'm not sure about the status of such algorithms these days.  I remember seeing a demo using a cell phone pic of a construction sign.  Almost unreadable in native form, but after the procedures ran on it you could read it no problem.  So maybe it is possible, I just don't know if it can be done for free.  :-)
[05:00] <Ropechoborra> How is the command to change a dir's name?
[05:00] <Ropechoborra> How is the command to change a dir's name?
[05:01] <spades> mv old new
[05:01] <universee> ceplm,y,just now someone tell me that ext2 is based on ufs
[05:01] <universee> ceplm,y,just now someone tell me that ext2 is based on ufs of freebsd
[05:01] <cius> I still say the new textures would look just as cartoony though, so depending on your needs...
[05:02] <ceplm> ext2 has nothing to do with networking and I am afraid that it is based on UFS as much as it is based on FAT -- both are filesystems.
[05:02] <ceplm> universee: but I am not sure about THAT
[05:02] <basis> i'm running dapper on a thinkpad ... anyone know if it's possible to make the external monitor show *different* things than the laptop screen?
[05:03] <ceplm> basis: not sure, but isn't it what Xinerama is good for?
[05:03] <FunnyLookinHat> basis, depends on your graphics card.  My guess is that you either have intell or ati, and neither of which are too good for that.
[05:03] <tritium> basis: I have extended desktop on my T43p
[05:04] <FunnyLookinHat> tritium, How'd you do it?   : )
[05:04] <basis> t41 ... ati radeon
[05:04] <GigaClon> anyone know of any OSS statistical analysis packages (ie. Minitab, SPSS etc)
[05:04] <tritium> FunnyLookinHat: it has an ati chip, I use the open-source driver (ati), and use the varios radeon options for extended desktop
[05:04] <basis> gigaclon: www.r-project.org
[05:05] <basis> tritium where are those options?
[05:05] <tritium> basis: "man radeon" to review them
[05:05] <basis> thx
[05:05] <tritium> basis: I'd give you my xorg.conf, but that's my work laptop, and it's not with me now
[05:05] <basis> cool
[05:06] <basis> are you able to run different resolutions on them?
[05:06] <tritium> basis: yes, 1400x1050 on laptop screen, 1600x1200 on external monitor
[05:06] <basis> man i gotta get that going
[05:07] <scythe> has anyone gotten the memory stick reader on a sony vgn-t250 working in breezy?
[05:07] <Kirk> bbl
[05:07] <tritium> basis: pay attention to the "Merged...." options
[05:07] <gh0st> hey, having issues getting ndiswrapper going, got the drivers installed, it says hardware present, but I can't configure it using the network config tool in gnome
[05:07] <dr_willis_> scythe,  ubuntu wiki/forumns have a laptop section/ then theres google and its linux laptop resources
[05:07] <dr_willis_> !network-manager
[05:07] <gh0st> using a motorola PCI adapter on a desktop
[05:08] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[05:08] <scythe> ubuntus wiki didnt have the right model of laptop, will do some more googling
[05:08] <scythe> it does, but I am not looking at a linux destop right now
[05:09] <scythe> wrong window
[05:09] <fdsd> hey guys, how do I make echo display data on another line like for example:  echo "test1 test2"  how do I make test1 appear above test2?
[05:09] <fdsd> test1
[05:09] <fdsd> test2
[05:09] <fdsd> like that
[05:09] <FunnyLookinHat> fdsd, echo "test1\ntest2"
[05:09] <FunnyLookinHat> \n = newline
[05:10] <festr> ubuntu is kinda pretty
[05:10] <festr> nicer than i expected
[05:10] <ceplm> fdsd: echo -e "test1\ntest2"
[05:10] <fdsd> thanks
[05:10] <gh0st> dr_willis_, says network manager isn't available in any software channels, I don't have any way of getting internet access to the ubuntu box, i'm IRCing from another machine
[05:10] <gh0st> i have the dapper drake CD added in the repositories, that's how I installed ndiswrapper
[05:11] <dr_willis_> gh0st,  sorry to hear that - it made my wireless actually WORK. :) for once in the year ive had my laptop..
[05:11] <acke_> !dapper
[05:11] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[05:11] <MenZa> !edgy
[05:11] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:11] <MenZa> ^^
[05:11] <acke_> ^^
[05:11] <acke_> !updatedapper
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about updatedapper - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:12] <acke_> !update
[05:12] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[05:12] <FunnyLookinHat> !update
[05:12] <FunnyLookinHat> ya
[05:12] <FunnyLookinHat> heh
[05:12] <acke_> ^
[05:12] <acke_> he
[05:12] <Ada1> ceplm: I restarted my computer
[05:12] <acke_> huum I have an issue with my sources, Im nit quite sure how to resolve them
[05:12] <NeedFlash8> acke_, are you running breezy ?
[05:13] <dr_willis_> !easysource
[05:13] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:13] <Ada1> I can bring up the device now
[05:13] <Ada1> eth1 is up
[05:13] <revilot> anyone in here familiar with midi / music editing on Linux
[05:13] <gh0st> also, on the wiki, "Sometimes ndiswrapper is used prematurely. There may be a native driver that comes with Ubuntu which is taking the primary driver position and conflicting with ndiswrapper. For more information on this, go to the WirelessTroubleshootingGuide and view the step on device drivers.", this sounds almost right, since the wireless card was showing up as eth0 before I did anything with ndiswrapper, but the link is dead
[05:13] <acke_> NeedFlash8 im runnung 5.10 and im trying to upgrade to 6.10
[05:14] <acke_> !pastit
[05:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastit - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:14] <acke_> !paste
[05:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:15] <jeff_> hey guys
[05:15] <jeff_> does anybody have guifications working in gaim 2.0 beta 3?
[05:15] <liquidboy> hey, trying to upgrade, is there any way that i can just upgrade from the cd (ie, not have to download heaps of stuff - i'm on dialup)
[05:15] <tritium> acke_: you know you can query ubotu in private, yes?
[05:16] <acke_> tritium I had no idea.
[05:16] <acke_> tritium how?
[05:16] <acke_> whisper_
[05:16] <acke_> ?
[05:16] <Ada1> I am running ubuntu 6.06 and I am trying to get my wireless card working using the ndiswrapper but I haven't been able to get it to work. I have a dell 9100 with Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g wireless card. Can any one help me set it up?
[05:16] <tritium> acke_: /query ubotu, and then ask away, just like here, but without the leading !
[05:16] <Ada1> I have already installed the ndiswrapper
[05:17] <Ada1> and the drivers
[05:17] <Ada1> but it isn't working
[05:17] <acke_> ill try to remeber thanks
[05:17] <tritium> acke_: it'll cut down on the traffic in here, so I won't have to Zidane you in the chest
[05:17] <acke_> trinitum hahahah
[05:17] <acke_> trinitum its all the italian guys fault anyways
[05:17] <revilot> anyone in here familiar with midi / music editing on Linux
[05:18] <FunnyLookinHat> ubuntu-offtopic!
[05:18] <FunnyLookinHat> ; )
[05:18] <tritium> acke_: nah, there was no excuse for it, whatever was said
[05:18] <FunnyLookinHat> !broadcom
[05:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:18] <FunnyLookinHat> Ada1, did you follow that doc ?
[05:19] <acke_> its much than couldve been said that deservers much worse than a small headbutt
[05:19] <FunnyLookinHat> Usually if you follow the docs line for line you get a working solution...   usually :-
[05:19] <Ada1> yes...I was getting help a few min ago and he told me to restart
[05:19] <FunnyLookinHat> and the restart didn't work obviously, heh.
[05:19] <FunnyLookinHat> hmm
[05:20] <revilot> does ndiswrapper only work for wireless cards, and if so is there anything similar for other hardware
[05:20] <Matetonto> wenass
[05:20] <tritium> acke_: aside from being offtopic, nothing deserves a violent response
[05:20] <Ada1> eth1 is up now but I am unable to do anything with it
[05:20] <Ada1> I can't assign an ssid to it
[05:20] <acke_> :)
[05:20] <FunnyLookinHat> Ada1, are you using network-manager?
[05:20] <Ada1> no
[05:20] <Ada1> iwconfig eth1 essid
[05:21] <Ada1> I am not sure if it is working
[05:21] <FunnyLookinHat> Ada1, try commenting out all of the lines referring to eth1 (wireless I assume) in your /etc/network/interfaces file and doing sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[05:21] <theapoc> Can some kind individual tell me where I need to put this line in order for it to be executed everytime I boot "xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 8 9 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 13""
[05:21] <FunnyLookinHat> Well it's a good way to test, as network-manager works very wll with setting up wireless connections
[05:21] <FunnyLookinHat> theapoc, boot, or login?
[05:22] <theapoc> login will be fine
[05:22] <theapoc> I put it in /etc/X11/xinit/~.Xmodmap
[05:22] <revilot> does ndiswrapper only work for wireless cards, and if so is there anything similar for other hardware
[05:22] <FunnyLookinHat> theapoc, System - Preferences - Sessions
[05:22] <theapoc> but apparently it doesn't go there
[05:22] <acke_> tritium, well if im trying to stick to the topic I still get the error mess when im reload or when I am trying to install dapper, it is shown here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17879
[05:22] <FunnyLookinHat> Go to Statup Programs
[05:22] <spades> theapoc ~/.Xmodmap
[05:23] <theapoc> spades: I have it in there too.
[05:23] <jeff_> does anybody have guifications working in gaim 2.0 beta 3?
[05:24] <tritium> acke_: when you reload what?
[05:24] <acke_> tritium in the package handler application
[05:24] <revilot> if im going to update my fglrx driver do i need to have it blacklisted first so it doesnt mess with restricted modules?
[05:24] <acke_> tritium synaptic
[05:24] <spades> theapoc are you doing multiple mouse buttons?
[05:25] <acke_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17880
[05:25] <acke_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17881
[05:25] <theapoc> spades: I have a mx310, I think it has 9 buttons
[05:26] <spades> theapoc i have /etc/X11/Xsession.d/57xmodmap  calling the xmodmap -e stuff and chmod+x it
[05:26] <tritium> acke_: 17880 is simply a warning that you have duplicate lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:26] <spades> theapoc owned by root so use sudo or whatever you prefer to get root
[05:26] <theapoc> spades: ok thanks
[05:26] <tritium> acke_: I'd start by cleaning up your sources.list, eliminating duplicates
[05:26] <acke_> tritium aye, but then the first problem still remains
[05:26] <Whil> kxdocker?
[05:26] <Ada1> I installed the network-manager package
[05:27] <tritium> acke_: have you already removed duplicates?
[05:27] <tritium> Ada1: if you're using gnome, you might want the gnome version as well
[05:28] <revilot> if im going to update my fglrx driver do i need to have it blacklisted first so it doesnt mess with restricted modules?
[05:28] <Ada1> tritium: I am not sure what you mean
[05:28] <cocox> hi, somebody knows how can i get an ascii value from some input with a console command???
[05:29] <tritium> Ada1: there is a network-manager-gnome package
[05:29] <Ada1> I installed it
[05:30] <Frostbite> hi all, i am trynig to create a server on my computer... i am unsure of exactly how to do that... could anybody help me out please?
[05:30] <tritium> Frostbite: what kind of server?
[05:30] <acerunus> how do i extract a tar.bz2 file
[05:30] <Frostbite> i have a website i own, i want to put it onto my system so i can do it all myself
[05:31] <spades> tar xjf file
[05:31] <festr> anyone here use easyubuntu
[05:31] <festr> im getting an error your sources.list does nto match your system configuration
[05:32] <Ada1> FunnyLookinHat: what do I do next?
[05:32] <festr> its a clean system all i did was apply the upgrades that it requested
[05:32] <festr> What should i do?
[05:32] <revilot> can anyone tell me how to properly install a new ati driver...do I need to install restricted modules first or what
[05:33] <acerunus> how do i extract a tar.bz2 file
[05:33] <tritium> revilot: you should already have restricted modules installed.  Which kernel do you use?
[05:33] <revilot> there are updates showing up for the kernel, restricted modules, and ati fglrx driver
[05:34] <p47_> acerunus: tar -zxvf file
[05:34] <Desh> Using wlassistant is basically like wusing iwconfig in the terminal, right? Except in this case wlassistant takes what you enters and does the appropriate iwconfig commands intself?
[05:34] <lecaros> hi guys
[05:34] <tritium> revilot: so you've already installed it?  Then you have nothing to do
[05:34] <acerunus> p47_, that is not working srry
[05:34] <revilot> tritium: kernel wants to update to 2.6.15-26-386
[05:34] <Frostbite> how do you private message one here? i havent figured it out :)
[05:35] <revilot> tritium: no i havent installed the updates yet
[05:35] <Desh> Frostbite: you need to register your nick 1st
[05:35] <cocox>  somebody knows if there is a way to get ascii values of some typed characters input with a console command???
[05:35] <p47_> acerunus: did you try to make that whitgraphic mode ?
[05:35] <revilot> tritium: i installed them on my dekstop last night and it borked my ati driver
[05:35] <acerunus> p47_,  i am lost i am in a blank gnome terminal and it wont let me do it srry
[05:35] <tritium> revilot: so you've never gotten it to work?
[05:35] <festr> that stinks
[05:35] <Frostbite> Desh- how do i go about that?
[05:35] <revilot> tritium: gotten what to work
[05:35] <festr> wonder how it can ruin its own sources
[05:36] <festr> with just the default install and upgrades it asked for
[05:36] <p47_> acerunus: ok wait !
[05:36] <acerunus> ok
[05:36] <tritium> revilot: the fglrx driver
[05:36] <Desh> Frostbite: I think: /nickserv register <pass>
[05:36] <revilot> tritium: yes its working now but theres an update listed
[05:37] <Desh> Has anyone gotten fglrx to work?
[05:37] <Desh> That's the question.
[05:37] <tritium> Desh: sure, many people
[05:37] <Desh> Well fglrx hates me.
[05:37] <tritium> revilot: if it's working, you're in good shape.  Just allow the update to happen.
[05:37] <Desh> HATES
[05:37] <Frostbite> Desh: using the chat window?
[05:37] <basis> where is the xorg.conf file kept?  (and why isn't it ~?)
[05:37] <Desh> Frostbire: Yes sir.
[05:37] <Desh> basis: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:37] <revilot> tritium: i did that last night on my other machine and it screwed up my 3d accleration...somehow i had mesa installed
[05:37] <acerunus> what is the problem how do i extract that file
[05:38] <basis> thx
[05:38] <Desh> revilot: Mesa comes standard.
[05:38] <revilot> Desh: Im aware of that
[05:38] <vandit2k7> Hi I have a question about amarok can anybody help me out???
[05:38] <revilot> Desh: why would I want mesa when i can run fglrx
[05:38] <Desh> revilot: On my laptop mesa never leaves, even with fglrx it says mesa is my openfl renderer
[05:38] <Desh> revilot: I dunno, I wish I could kill mesa and force fglrx to work, but you need mesa as a backup.
[05:38] <tritium> revilot: I'll be back...
[05:39] <p47_> acerunus: bzip2 -cd file.tar.bz2
[05:39] <Ada1>  I am running ubuntu 6.06 and I am trying to get my wireless card working using the ndiswrapper but I haven't been able to get it to work. I have a dell 9100 with Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g wireless card. Can any one help me set it up?
[05:39] <slowz3r> anyone know how i can make my terminal transparent or set it so the terminal is the background
[05:39] <Desh> Ada1: What are you having trouble with?
[05:39] <revilot> Desh: are you saying with fglrxinfo it still lists mesa?
[05:39] <Ada1> I installed the ndiswrapper and installed the drivers
[05:39] <Desh> revilot: yup, and thus, glxgears runs slow as hella.
[05:39] <Ada1> but it doesnt work
[05:40] <revilot> Desh: what card do you have
[05:40] <Desh> Ada1: type ndiswrapper -l
[05:40] <p47_> clear
[05:40] <Desh> that's an L
[05:40] <Desh> revilot: Mobility Radeon 9700
[05:40] <Ada1> ndiswrapper -l
[05:40] <Ada1> Installed ndis drivers:
[05:40] <Ada1> bcmwl5a         driver present, hardware present
[05:40] <Desh> Ada1, you want the easy way or the hard way? :)
[05:40] <Whil> gtk ndiswrapper :)
[05:40] <Ada1> hardway...I think I tried the easy way
[05:41] <Desh> Ada1, ok, do you need a WEP key?
[05:41] <Ada1> yes
[05:41] <revilot> Desh: i got fglrx to work on my ati200m using this method: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html
[05:41] <cocox> somebody knows if there is a way to get ascii values of some typed characters input with a console command???
[05:41] <Ada1> I don't need a WEP key at the moment
[05:41] <festr> anyone here use easyubuntu?
[05:41] <Belzar> Desh: this is frostbite, it said this time to wait 30 seconds before using register again
[05:42] <Ada1> there is an open wireless network that I am testing it on
[05:42] <Desh> revilot: thanks, I'll book mark and try it, I'm so desperae man, tried for months, and I want to be able to play games!! :(!!! Hehehe.
[05:42] <Desh> Ada1, ok at a termina, type: iwlist scan
[05:42] <Desh> And name me the things there, like eth1, eth0, wlan0, etc
[05:43] <Desh> Belzar: o_O It didn't register the nick?
[05:44] <tale> I used to have software 1 for two disks.  I decided to kill the raid partition and use both disks like normal, but each time I reboot, md0 is grabbing one fo the disks.  Can somebody tell me how to remove the process that mounts the md0 drive at boot?
[05:44] <Ada1> lo eth0 eth1:(Cell 01 Cell02) sit0
[05:44] <Belzar> Desh: the first one was already taken... it said to wait 30 seconds this time then it registered it... i think under Belzaar though... the private messaging is still unknown to me
[05:44] <Ada1> I do see the router
[05:44] <alindeman> Anyone know what package to install to resolve this Java error?
[05:44] <Desh> Belzar: as long as you register it you can PM
[05:44] <Heretician> Is it possible to install a copy of ubuntu from one hard drive to another? I have the ISO of ubuntu (w/ windows xp) and I am wanting to install it on another hard drive (w/ windows 98, also wanting to take that out :))
[05:44] <alindeman> Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[05:45] <alindeman> I know, some GTK thing, but I can't easily find it, apparently
[05:45] <Desh> Ada1: what is your extension for wireless? wlan0 or eth1?
[05:45] <Ada1> eth1
[05:45] <tale> I have removed the md0 line from /etc/fstab
[05:45] <tale> what have I missed?
[05:45] <Whil> ndis lists broadcoms at eth1 regardless.
[05:45] <Whil> or eth something
[05:45] <vandit2k7> Hi can anybody help me with amarok please. Thank you
[05:45] <Desh> Ada1: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid 'nameofinternetthingy'
[05:46] <Ada1> I thought it would be wlan0 from the documentation I read but apparently its eth1
[05:46] <Desh> Ada1: Yeah it depends, mine is eth1 also.
[05:46] <Ada1> Desh: done
[05:46] <Desh> Ada1: iwconfig
[05:46] <Whil> ada1: my broadcom is eth1 too don't know why. could be a ndiswrapper thing
[05:46] <Desh> Ada1: Check that it says the nme of your network, not off/any
[05:46] <Ada1> Desh:eth1      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:off/any
[05:47] <Desh> Hmm, try it again: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid 'ESSID'
[05:47] <tale> vandit2k7, what do you wanna know?
[05:47] <vandit2k7> hi tale
[05:47] <vandit2k7> I am having problem playing sound with amarok
[05:47] <vandit2k7> I am using gnome
[05:47] <vandit2k7> well ubuntu
[05:47] <tale> vandit2k7, what kind of file?
[05:48] <tale> vandit2k7, do you have sound at all?
[05:48] <Ada1> Desh: eth1      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"MASTER"
[05:48] <vandit2k7> its not about a file......well its a .pls file from di.fm but the real problem is that I have audigy 2 zs pcmcia card in my laptop
[05:48] <vandit2k7> rythmbox plays it
[05:48] <Belzar> Desh: I understand I am able to... but is there a special command for it that I am not aware of?
[05:48] <Kirk> Hey, question.
[05:48] <Desh> Ada1: sudo dhclient eth1
[05:48] <vandit2k7> but amarok doesn't produce any actual sound
[05:48] <tale> vandit2k7, so you do have sound?
[05:48] <Heretician> Is it possible to install a copy of ubuntu from one hard drive to another? I have the ISO of ubuntu (w/ windows xp) and I am wanting to install it on another hard drive (w/ windows 98, also wanting to take that out :))
[05:48] <Desh> Ada1: that sould be it
[05:48] <Kirk> I'm trying to install some stuff on a server remotely... using apt-get.  Is there any way I can avoid needing to insert the CD?  :|
[05:48] <vandit2k7> yes but not with amarok
[05:49] <Kirk> I am using Ubuntu Breezy Badger.
[05:49] <Flannel> Kirk: remove the CD from your repositories
[05:49] <Kirk> How?  (Sorry, I'm new to this.)
[05:49] <Desh> Belzar: after registering, type: /msg nickserv identify <pass>, that lets you identify yourself for PMs
[05:49] <Flannel> Kirk: you comfortable with the command line?
[05:49] <tale> vandit2k7, what kind of files are in the pls file?  mp3, aac?
[05:49] <vandit2k7> yea mp3
[05:49] <vandit2k7> well u know di.fm
[05:49] <vandit2k7> its like radio
[05:49] <Kirk> Flannel: Yes, I can use the command line.  In fact that's all I have in SSH.  I just need to know where it is located so I can edit it.
[05:49] <tale> you may need to enable mp3 support
[05:49] <vandit2k7> I can see the time scrolling
[05:49] <[Ex0r] > anyone here use xchat ?
[05:50] <Ada1> I got an IP address
[05:50] <vandit2k7> but it doesn't actually produce any sound
[05:50] <Flannel> Kirk: /etc/apt/sources.list, then comment out the CD line. (with #)
[05:50] <Desh> Ada1: Try to like google: ping www.google.com
[05:50] <vandit2k7> why does rythmbox work then
[05:50] <tale> rythmbox is gnome, amarok is kde
[05:50] <vandit2k7> yes
[05:50] <Desh> Ada1: Or just try your web browser. :)
[05:50] <tale> they probably use different engines
[05:50] <vandit2k7> so what do I need to do
[05:50] <vandit2k7> exactly
[05:50] <vandit2k7> but
[05:50] <tale> just a sec, let me find the link
[05:50] <vandit2k7> whats the other good player
[05:50] <vandit2k7> for gnome
[05:51] <Desh> XMMS
[05:51] <vandit2k7> yea
[05:51] <Kirk> Flannel:  That should work.  Thanks.
[05:51] <Desh> Best player. :)
[05:51] <vandit2k7> really
[05:51] <vandit2k7> is it like winamp
[05:51] <Desh> My favorite.
[05:51] <vandit2k7> lol
[05:51] <tale> vandit2k7, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:51] <Heretician> Is it possible to install a copy of ubuntu from one hard drive to another? I have the ISO of ubuntu (w/ windows xp) and I am wanting to install it on another hard drive (w/ windows 98, also wanting to take that out :))
[05:51] <piratepenguin> xine can use different engines I think. arts and xine I think...
[05:51] <Flannel> Kirk: remember to update
[05:51] <tale> vandit2k7,  it has info for enabling mp3 for both kde and gnome apps
[05:51] <Kirk> Flannel: Doing so now.
[05:51] <Ada1> Desh: It didn't work
[05:51] <Desh> Yes. Xmms is like winamp, and it supports wma, mp3, mp4, etc (as long as you download the codecs) :)
[05:51] <tale> xmms is just like winamp
[05:51] <vandit2k7> ok thank u tale
[05:51] <piratepenguin> *AMAROK can use different engines I think. arts and xine I think...
[05:51] <Belzar> Desh: haha sorry to be blind here... but i got that, anything else? or the command i use to send the PM?
[05:52] <Kirk> Flannel: Ran apt-get update, now running apt-get upgrade.
[05:52] <blind> Sorry to be belzar in here..
[05:52] <Desh> Ada1: type in iwconfig and PM the output to me.
[05:52] <tale> xmms works good for pls files
[05:52] <Desh> Belzar: That should be it, double click on the user's name and it'll open the PM window
[05:52] <tale> anybody know anything about software raid?
[05:53] <Kirk> Tale: Only that I've been told it can be dangerous.
[05:53] <[Ex0r] > Anyone here using xchat ?
[05:53] <Kirk> Ex0r: Using Trillian.
[05:53] <tale> [Ex0r] , yes
[05:53] <[Ex0r] > kirk your on windows ?
[05:53] <tale> it works great
[05:53] <Kirk> Ex0r: Yes.
[05:53] <[Ex0r] > tale, do you have problems with your /ignore working ?
[05:54] <[Ex0r] > Mines not working at all
[05:54] <Kirk> Ex0r: I'm a Unix\Ubuntu noob to be honest.
[05:54] <Whil> [Ex0r] : konversation
[05:54] <Warbo> Anyone have experience with YoSucker? It has put my Yahoo mail into a file and I want to access it with Evolution (maybe set up a POP server?)
[05:54] <revilot> i have xorg-driver-fglrx AND xserver-xorg-driver-ati installed.  Is that ok or should i uninstall one
[05:54] <tale> [Ex0r] , I haven't tried using it, sorry.
[05:54] <Desh> revilot: Leave them
[05:54] <piratepenguin> revilot: should be ok
[05:54] <[Ex0r] > I've added this person 3 different ways, and ignore isn't working at all
[05:54] <Desh> revilot: the other one is the open source driver, you can falback to it if fglrx gets hucked up.
[05:55] <revilot> Desh: seems weird to have 2 drivers installed
[05:55] <Desh> revilot: as long as both arn't being used.
[05:55] <Desh> I spelled aren't wrong :)
[05:55] <revilot> How do i test that
[05:55] <Desh> revilot: terminal: fglrxinfo
[05:55] <Desh> revilot: if it says ATI blah blah, then you are fine.
[05:56] <revilot> ok
[05:56] <revilot> thx
[05:56] <Desh> revilot: you probably have maybe 5-15 video drivers installed actually.
[05:56] <revilot> hmm
[05:56] <Desh> revilot: Ubuntu will use the one it's specified to use for a specific screen.
[05:56] <revilot> ok
[05:56] <theapoc> Hey guys, im trying to setup a samba share between ubuntu dapper and my VM winxp. What ip do I need to set for wins?
[05:56] <Ada1> Desh: did you get the output that I PM to you
[05:56] <Desh> Ada1: No, register your nick.
[05:57] <Desh> Ada1: /nickserv register <pass>
[05:57] <Desh> Ada1: then, /msg nickserv identify <pass>
[05:57] <piratepenguin> theapoc: I dont think you need any, but I'm not sure..
[05:58] <abu_ama3ma> can anybody tell me what packages to install to do basic c programming
[05:58] <piratepenguin> abu_ama3ma: build-essential
[05:58] <Desh> abu_ama3ama: KDevelop :)
[05:58] <SurfnKid> !ko
[05:58] <ubotu> For Korean help, /join #ubuntu-ko
[05:59] <Desh> !kdevelope
[05:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdevelope - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:59] <Desh> !kdevelop
[05:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdevelop - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:59] <SurfnKid> mmm
[05:59] <Desh> :(
[05:59] <SurfnKid> where can i get the i8k.o file to put on the module
[05:59] <SurfnKid> so ican load my fan control proggy
[06:00] <Ada1> how do I register my nick
[06:00] <crimsun> Ada1: /msg nickserv help register
[06:00] <Desh> Ada1: /nickserv register <pass>
[06:02] <theapoc> piratepenguin: How do I determine what IP my VMServer is?
[06:02] <Ada1>  /msg nickserv identify passu
[06:02] <] grimm[> Does anyone know how I can mount a reiser partition that is encoded in euc-jp on my utf8 ubuntu machine (and view the files properly)?
[06:03] <Belzar> does anybody knwo how to go about hosting a website that you own on your own computer using ubuntu? i havent quite figured it out yet and would love someones help
[06:03] <Desh> Ada1: replace pass with the password you want
[06:03] <abu_ama3ma> Belzar, install apache first of all
[06:04] <] grimm[> if I can't do it directly, is it possible to do something like setting up a chroot with a different locale and mount the drive in the chroot and then convert the encoding on the files and folders?
[06:05] <kyo_> haha
[06:05] <Ada1> Desh: I am registerd and I PM my results
[06:06] <Meatwad> i'm coming from windows and I used Trillian (instant messenger) with a minimalist theme; GAIMs default skin is entirely too big; is there a way to change the skin, or is there another AIM compatible linux IM client?
[06:06] <Desh> Ada1: ok talk to me there.
[06:06] <spinn12> SiS graphics problems.  Anyone feeling gutsy?
[06:08] <spinn12> Anyone?
[06:09] <_bbandit> is it possible to exclude some packages completely from the update manager, or do i have to uncheck the packages i don't want every time there's an update ?
[06:09] <Belzar> Ok, after installing apache, what would i have to do to start hosting my own site?
[06:10] <fdsd> how do I do ls and list everything except the word "file"?
[06:10] <CarlFK> what package has the play command?
[06:11] <CarlFK> or, what is the most basic way to play a .wav to test sound drivers ?
[06:11] <BHSPitMonkey> hi, my sound just stopped working... what can I do to "jump-start" it without having to reboot?
[06:11] <devhen> lol spinn12 wish i could help :)
[06:11] <spinn12> Me too devhen.  I'm googled out.
[06:12] <BHSPitMonkey> never mind. it was firefox's fault. :D
[06:12] <Whil> what is Sis spinn12?
[06:12] <Geoffrey2> is there any kind of wine support forum on this network?
[06:12] <Desh> What does the ls command do?
[06:12] <spinn12> another type of chipset.  Like ATI or Nvidia.
[06:12] <spinn12> Desh ls is to list
[06:12] <spinn12> it lists the contents of a folder, etc.
[06:12] <acebo> Okay, so, I just installed samba and smbfs, does the samba daemon need to be running if I only want to connect to other Windows file shares, not make my own?
[06:13] <dr_willis_> #wine-hq I think
[06:13] <Whil> spinn12: thanks
[06:13] <Desh> spinn12: oh ok, thanks
[06:13] <dr_willis_> acebo,  i dont think so. gnome has its own samba browser feature of its file manager that you can use.
[06:13] <acebo> hrm, really? I was looking through synaptic.. it's build-in?
[06:14] <CarlFK> Geoffrey2: #winehq
[06:14] <acebo> Well I'll be darned. Thanks dr willis.. sure enough, under Placees.
[06:14] <acebo> Places, even
[06:15] <Geoffrey2> CarlFK, thanks :)
[06:15] <Desh> Why use ls when dir does the same thing?
[06:15] <Lukian>  how do I determine what cpu a box has from the terminal?
[06:15] <Desh> Or vice versa
[06:16] <spinn12> Desh...not sure.  I've never used dir
[06:16] <Desh> spinn12: dir is the same except in white - no colors :(
[06:16] <acebo> Any idea how to log in? When I surf to the Samba shares, it doesn't give an oppertunity to enter user/pass..
[06:16] <spinn12> Ahh
[06:16] <spinn12> Well, there's your answer then...lol.  If you want codes, use ls
[06:17] <Desh> :(! fglrx, why do you have me?
[06:17] <Desh> !fglrx
[06:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:17] <Desh> they should add that fglrx hates ne to ubotu
[06:17] <spinn12> Ugh...I feel for ya.  I did an fglrx install in Suse.
[06:17] <garryF> hmmm, fglrs is for ati is it not?
[06:17] <garryF> !ati
[06:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:17] <spinn12> !sis
[06:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about sis - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:17] <Desh> spinn12, no matter what I do, mesa3d stays as my OpenGL.
[06:17] <spinn12> Pft.  Nobody seems to know anything about SiS
[06:17] <garryF> !computers
[06:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about computers - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:17] <Redrose> how do i designate what device i want to use for the internet?
[06:18] <acebo> haha..
[06:18] <Desh> !ubotu
[06:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:18] <spinn12> Desh, did you edit the xorg.cfg?\
[06:18] <acebo> Redrose, System->Admin->Networking
[06:18] <Whil> anyone have some advice on how to stream video off a web page in unbuntu?
[06:18] <spinn12> All I want is my native display size.  Is that so much to ask?
[06:18] <garryF> !flash
[06:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:18] <acebo> Redrose: once you're in the network settings, disable any interface you won't be using
[06:18] <spinn12> 1024x768 on a 15.4 wide sucks.
[06:19] <Desh> Yes.
[06:19] <acebo> I'm on a 10x7 15.1 not-so-wide..
[06:19] <garryF> Isn't so easy on the eyes either.
[06:19] <dr_willis_> Dapper saw/set up my laptops wide screen fine. :) amazed me.
[06:19] <acebo> And that's native >=/
[06:19] <dr_willis_> could use that x modeline generator webv site to get the proper modeline
[06:19] <Redrose> i want both of them done, but only one to be the one that uses the internet
[06:19] <Whil> my wide screen set up just fine too
[06:20] <acebo> Redrose: Hrm.. that's a harder one.. what two interfaces are they? Wireless and wired?
[06:20] <Redrose> 2 wireless, eth1 and ath0
[06:20] <Desh> My 15 inch was set to 1040x1050, :) which is my max.
[06:20] <garryF> maybe ifconfig?
[06:20] <BeOSMrX> I need some help. I'd like to run a command and keep on making it repeat after it's done, like in a loop until I cancel it
[06:20] <dr_willis_> heh - thats awful high res for a 15 in.
[06:20] <martynda> hi, how do i pick a previous version of the kernel to boot to? currently have 2.6.15-26, need to boot to 15-25
[06:21] <dr_willis_> BeOSMrX,  what kind of command?
[06:21] <bob1973> anyone use a tablet pc in kubuntu that could help me?
[06:21] <Whil> martynda: have you tried escape when grub loads?
[06:21] <Desh> martynda: at the boot screen, press ESC
[06:21] <garryF> Hmm, Download the previous kernel and it should show up in your boot manager be it grub or lilo
[06:21] <Desh> martynda: then choose the oe you want. :)
[06:21] <martynda> ok, thanks :)
[06:21] <BeOSMrX> like a terminal command, like wget and then make it re-start after it's done
[06:22] <garryF> I like Desh's ander better than mine.
[06:22] <BeOSMrX> or maybe if the file be saved to 'dev/null' or something to make it not be saved, just downloaded if you know what I mean
[06:22] <dr_willis_> BeOSMrX,  Hmm...  could use some simple bash script to do that.. not sure WHY you would want to... :)
[06:22] <Ada1> Desh: IT WORKS :)   one more thing, is it possible to do WPA encryption?
[06:22] <acebo> Yes Ada1
[06:22] <acebo> But a pain in the butt
[06:22] <BeOSMrX> dr_willis_ yes, I'd like to test my download speed
[06:22] <BeOSMrX> over time
[06:23] <tripppy> where do i get the min. specs listing for dapper?
[06:23] <Desh> Ada1: yes, sudo iwconfig eth1 key restricted <WEP/WPA key>
[06:23] <garryF> There are sites to test your speed.
[06:23] <bob1973> newbie here trying kubuntu on a gateway tablet pc everthying but the digital pen works
[06:23] <acebo> Ada: there's several forum's and guides on how to set everything up using wpa_supplicant
[06:23] <BeOSMrX> My home server and I'm testing it for my own reasons
[06:23] <derrickh> does anyone know where in the xorg.conf the primary monitor setting is stored?
[06:23] <bob1973> any ideas ?
[06:23] <Desh> Ada1: A GUI to do it all: Wireless Assistant (wlassistant)
[06:23] <dr_willis_> theres benchmark progams :)
[06:23] <garryF> !requirements
[06:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about requirements - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:23] <garryF> !hardware
[06:23] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:24] <dr_willis_> derrickh,  it should be righ there in the monitor section. ya got 2 monitors?
[06:24] <derrickh> yea
[06:24] <spinn12> Damn.  You know it's bad when even google looks at you and says "WTF are you talking about"
[06:24] <Desh> Does fglr support the ATI Mbility 9700
[06:24] <derrickh> the dvi is set as primary by default
[06:24] <Desh> *fglrx
[06:24] <garryF> LoL
[06:24] <derrickh> but i want the vga to be
[06:24] <garryF> Ive had it do that before.
[06:24] <dr_willis_> derrickh,  this is on ati or nvidia?
[06:24] <derrickh> ati
[06:25] <dr_willis_> derrickh,  mine is the opposite (nvidia, and the DANG Analog out is default.. not DVI. :P)
[06:25] <Desh> !dvi
[06:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about dvi - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:25] <vigilante> Anybody here have Doom3 or Quake4 installed?  (Im trying to get ALSA running on it, sounding terrible now)
[06:25] <Ignite_> hey how do i add stuff to my PATH? silly question i know..
[06:25] <dr_willis_> derrickh,  id google for examples of using 2 monttors with ati.
[06:25] <spinn12> ANYONE using an SiS chipset for video?
[06:25] <garryF> !the answers you need!
[06:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about the answers you need! - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:25] <Ada1> Desh: I will try it, I am just happy that it finally works.....Thank you for your help
[06:25] <dr_willis_> Ignite_,  bash fundamentals. export PATH=$PATH:new/Path/To/Add
[06:25] <Ignite_> spinn12, i have an onboard SiS card but don't use it
[06:25] <Desh> Ada1: No problem man, good luck.
[06:26] <Ignite_> dr_willis_, thanks
[06:26] <BeOSMrX> I'm geting help in archlinux and bash thanks
[06:26] <Ignite_> dr_willis_, will that be permanent?
[06:26] <spinn12> Killing me.  I have a laptop with SiS, and I can't get the display right at all.
[06:26] <Kirk> Help.
[06:26] <Kirk> Installing something.
[06:26] <Kirk> Package postfix-tls is a virtual package provided by:
[06:26] <Kirk>   postfix 2.2.4-1ubuntu2.1
[06:26] <Kirk> You should explicitly select one to install.
[06:26] <Kirk> E: Package postfix-tls has no installation candidate
[06:26] <dr_willis_> Ignite_,  it will pay to spend an hr or so reading a bash titorual or guide or 3.. NO it wont be permenet.
[06:26] <dr_willis_> Ignite_,  for that you edit your .bashrc or .bash_profile
[06:26] <Nameeater> I have a perl firewall script, how can I make it start with every boot?
[06:26] <spinn12> Got the wireless working, got everything else working...just can't get the display right.
[06:27] <dr_willis_> Perl Firewall?
[06:27] <Kirk> You need to make an entry in init.d
[06:27] <Kirk> I think
[06:27] <derrickh> well ive installed the drivers and the driver interface changes nothing when i use it
[06:27] <dr_willis_> theres some rc.local init.d service I thought.. but never used it.
[06:27] <derrickh> so ive done everything through the fglrxconfig
[06:27] <Ignite_> dr_willis_, i thought as much, i'm not a newbie, just never needed to both with that, i was trying things like "$PATH += whatever" lol
[06:27] <dr_willis_> Ignite_,  heh -  Bash 101 :)
[06:28] <Ignite_> :)
[06:28] <derrickh> but cant change it.  ive tried finding which exact field was the primary monitor setting but couldnt find it
[06:28] <Kirk> Never mind the installation error.  I just removed that line.
[06:28] <Kirk> It's fine now.
[06:28] <Kirk> :)
[06:28] <Kirk> I'll let you know if I need anything else
[06:28] <spinn12> Doc, nevermind my left leg.  I removed it and it's fine now ;)
[06:28] <derrickh> is this setting outside xorg.conf
[06:28] <dr_willis_> derrickh,  ya proberly have to find some optios that the ati driver uses to change it.
[06:29] <derrickh> well the interface is very limited
[06:29] <derrickh> i tweaked the settings it generated for the xorg.conf but couldnt find what to change to switch the vga to primary
[06:29] <Desh> How do I find out if my laptop is set up to use 2 monitors?
[06:29] <tripppy> is 4.3 gig too small for a dapper install?
[06:29] <derrickh> i thought maybe it was handled in another file
[06:29] <Desh> derrickh: 2 monitors?
[06:30] <QMario> Hello everybody!!! :)
[06:30] <derrickh> yes
[06:30] <garryF> It would list both monitors in the xorg.conf
[06:30] <Desh> K menu - > System Settings - > Display - > Administrator - >  Hardware Tab
[06:30] <spinn12> tripppy: should be fine
[06:30] <garryF> as for how to set that up, I don't recall.
[06:30] <derrickh> but ive tried switching and nothing
[06:31] <garryF> !monitors
[06:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about monitors - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:31] <Desh> derrickh: that should let you switch primary and secondary
[06:31] <dr_willis_> I recall that the mepis live cd had a nice tool to set up dual monitors..
[06:31] <dr_willis_> ubuntu needs to 'borrow' it :)
[06:31] <Desh> How do I know if my laptop is setup to sue 2 monitors? it shows a seconds unknown monitor in the Display Tab.
[06:31] <derrickh> what about g
[06:31] <dr_willis_> Desh,  i would guess its not set up to use 2.
[06:32] <derrickh> where are the display settings for gmu?
[06:32] <tripppy> ive got a dapper cd from shipit. i leave the installer on all the defaults and installs but never finsihes, and freezes up the PC.
[06:32] <Desh> dr_willis_: why would a 2nd one appear there then?
[06:32] <fowlduck> how can i customize the splash screen?
[06:32] <dr_willis_> Desh,  its seeing it.. its not configured to USE it.
[06:33] <DonL> How do you change the start up / shut down screens. I've dumped Xubuntu, but they keep happening
[06:33] <dr_willis_> Desh,  it can report stuff it dont have configrued or drivers for or other things.
[06:33] <Desh> dr_willis_: well i don;t have a 2nd screen plugged in, I have the option to, as I have the port, but nothing is plugged in, would that interfere with fglrx, telling it I hve 2 monitors?
[06:34] <garryF> Search for splash screen or just splash in package manager, and get the one you want.
[06:34] <Warbo> fowlduck: There is a Wiki article on the Breezy one, but it changed with Dapper and the only link is to a sort of discussion page
[06:34] <fowlduck> Warbo, mmkay thx
[06:34] <dr_willis_> Desh,  i know nothing of how ati handles 2 displays.. plus some laptops do the 2 outputs 'difrently' then a desktop can.
[06:35] <garryF> !twinview
[06:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about twinview - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:35] <Desh> dr_willis_: argh, ok thanks tho. I just wish I knew what kept my laptop from using fglrx
[06:35] <garryF> !duelview
[06:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about duelview - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:35] <dr_willis_> Desh,  i would guess somnting silly that ati did. :P
[06:35] <Desh> :'(
[06:35] <dr_willis_> Desh,  my x200m laptop - does work with the fglrx  - whch suprised me.
[06:35] <dr_willis_> but in the future - i wont get any more laptops with ati.
[06:35] <Desh> dr_willis_: the new driver?
[06:35] <DonL> Another question: Since I upgraded to Dapper, every time I reboot, the sound on tv time starts on boot up. I have to wait till it's totally booted, go into tvtime, and then turn it off
[06:36] <torpedo|dog> Anybody: is there a way that I can remove my old linux kernel versions? Is it safe to remove them through APT or is there a specific thing I have to do?
[06:36] <dr_willis_> no idea how new is new. :) i dont woory about it being the newest
[06:36] <yum> Hello, I want to have a different grub splash screen. I entered this line in the menue.lst: "splashimage=(hd0,0) /boot/grub/screens/frag.xpm.gz ". But it doesn't work. This are my other entries in the menue.lst: "root		(hd0,4), kernel		/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/hde9 ro quiet splash". The boot partition is on: "/dev/hde5               188168    32146    145983  19% /boot"
[06:36] <sproingie> torpedo|dog: you can use apt.  if you try to remove your current one, it screams at you and asks if you really want to
[06:36] <garryF> I know I've seen the keyword for info on two monitors on same machine, but I can't remember it.
[06:36] <torpedo|dog> sproingie: okay, thanks.
[06:36] <Desh> Why would I get this when I run glxgears: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:37] <Desh> I don't use XFree. :(
[06:38] <torpedo|dog> Netsplit?
[06:38] <torpedo|dog> No, just a lot of quits.
[06:39] <garryF> Perhaps dri is not working. I think the command to find out is glxinfo | grep dri
[06:39] <Warbo> Desh: Probably that is just the name of the X extension. Many drivers don't support DRI (it's maily Free ones that do support it)
[06:40] <Desh> Is there a way to do software DRI?
[06:40] <festr> too bad there isnt a fast way to install everything for rubyonrails in one shot
[06:40] <festr> ruby, gems, rails, light
[06:40] <sproingie> ati supports dri too
[06:40] <Warbo> Desh: That would kind of defeat the point :)
[06:40] <garryF> well, the free nv driver didn't support dri. I think software dri would be slow.
[06:40] <Desh> Warbo: I am confudes :(
[06:40] <Desh> *confused
[06:41] <garryF> nv is a software driver, it uses no hardware or gpu bells and whistles.
[06:41] <Warbo> DRI=Direct Rendering Infrastructure (I think). Software is not directly talking to the HW
[06:41] <Desh> That driver sued to not give me that error.
[06:41] <Desh> *used
[06:41] <Warbo> Desh: You on Nvidia?
[06:41] <Kirk> Hey
[06:41] <Desh> ATI.
[06:41] <Kirk> Question
[06:41] <Desh> The open source driver never game me that error.
[06:42] <Kirk> How do I change the root password in MySQL 4.0.x, from nothing to "thisismypass" or something?
[06:42] <Kirk> The manual context didn't work for me before.
[06:42] <Warbo> Desh: Free ATI drivers support DRI (on Radeon 9200 and below). I think FGLRX supports it too, but I'm not sure
[06:42] <sproingie> fglrx uses dri, nvidia does not
[06:42] <Desh> Warbo: :( I have a mobility 9700
[06:42] <garryF> !hardware
[06:42] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:43] <richard_> hey all, brand new ubuntu user... I'm wrestling with getting the wireless working on my dell d820..  DD 6.06 with all updates loads the driver just fine but the interface doesn't connect to the AP when I ifup eth1...
[06:44] <piratepenguin> exit
[06:44] <garryF> The mobiity is supported. The wiki tells some little small work arounds you might need to do.
[06:44] <Vit7oO> Hi everybody, i need help converting a fat32 partition to ext3.. anyone pls, i know this won't take long, thanx
[06:44] <Desh> richard: try: sudo dhclient eth1
[06:45] <synd2> Hi, I have a compaq laptop with Ubuntu and it has a battery monitor that has shown to work, but it intermittently "disappears"
[06:45] <synd2> Is there any way to remedy this?
[06:46] <bur[n] er> anyone know if there's a .deb for vmware server in the works?
[06:46] <Warbo> Vit7oO: I would shrink the partition as much as possible, make a small ext3 one and copy acroos as much as will fit, then keep shrinking FAT32, growing ext3, copying across until there is nothing left on the FAT32
[06:47] <garryF> yeah, then ye can delete the fat, and expand the ext3
[06:47] <lvpython> at ubuntu which package is a manualpage about Cplusplus Fuctions?
[06:47] <noonex> how do you use apt-get to install a specific version of a package?
[06:47] <richard_> Desh: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=17704
[06:47] <richard_> noonex: :version
[06:48] <richard_> noonex: apt-get install foo:version
[06:48] <Warbo> Vit7oO: I would shrink the partition as much as possible, make a small ext3 one and copy acroos as much as will fit, then keep shrinking FAT32, growing ext3, copying across until there is nothing left on the FAT32 (you quit, so I repeated myself)
[06:48] <Kirk> How do I change the root password in MySQL 4.0.x, from nothing to "thisismypass" or something?
[06:48] <lvpython> o
[06:49] <synd2> Hi, I have a compaq laptop with Ubuntu and it has a battery monitor that has shown to work, but it intermittently "disappears". Any fixes to keep it from disappearing?
[06:49] <Vit7oO> warbo, i don't want to keep anything that i might have on the fat32 partition
[06:49] <Vit7oO> i just want to delete it and convert it to ext3
[06:49] <richard_> Vit7oO: gparted
[06:49] <garryF> Delete the partitition and create a new ext3
[06:49] <bur[n] er> Vit7oO: system -> admin -> gnome partition editor
[06:50] <Warbo> Vit7oO: No need to convert it then, just format to ext3
[06:50] <Vit7oO> thanks u all
[06:50] <Warbo> Vit7oO: Is this to install Ubuntu on?
[06:50] <Vit7oO> no
[06:50] <richard_> Desh: As you can see it doesn't "see" the AP...  The strange thing is the machine has a little light that shows when the wireless is "working"
[06:51] <Warbo> Vit7oO: OK, otherwise I was going to mention SWAP
[06:51] <synd2> Does GParted let me take GBs off of my NTFS partition and add them to my ext3 partition?
[06:51] <richard_> When i boot into windows the light comes on (steady) when I "enable" the card
[06:51] <Vit7oO> i have my disk splited in half, one half for win, one for lin, well, i dont want win anymore
[06:51] <Warbo> Vit7oO: Good for you :)
[06:51] <bur[n] er> synd2: yes as long as you have ntfsprogs I think
[06:51] <richard_> with ubuntu the light flashes once a second or so
[06:52] <Warbo> synd2: I think GParted gets confused trying to extend ext3 backwards
[06:52] <noonex> richard_:  thank you!
[06:52] <kakalto> If I were to copy all of a ubuntu install to another hard drive and stick it into another computer, how would ubuntu handle it?
[06:52] <synd2> Warbo: :/
[06:52] <sproingie> kakalto: probably just fine
[06:52] <bur[n] er> kakalto: pretty well
[06:52] <kakalto> sweet.
[06:52] <richard_> noonex: No problem
[06:52] <bur[n] er> kakalto: maybe just a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:52] <Warbo> kakalto: Probably OK (my system is the result of that), just make sure fstab is OK
[06:52] <holycow> hey can anyone unban my other hostmask?
[06:52] <kakalto> yeah
[06:53] <richard_> noonex: I learned that from the man page ;-)
[06:53] <kakalto> Warbo: figured, that's one of the more obvious things =)
[06:53] <kakalto> bur[n] er: right, I'll keep that in mind
[06:53] <Warbo> synd2: That is only in my experience though
[06:53] <Desh> What does this mean in my Xorg.0.log file:
[06:53] <Desh> II) Loading sub module "radeon"
[06:53] <Desh> (II) LoadModule: "radeon"
[06:53] <Desh> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so
[06:54] <Warbo> kakalto: Oh yeah, grub-install too (I use a boot CD so I forgot)
[06:54] <Kirk> I have a question.
[06:54] <richard_> Desh: That is your video drive loading
[06:54] <Warbo> Desh: It is loading the driver
[06:54] <Kirk> In this context:
[06:54] <Kirk> SET PASSWORD FOR<EMAIL_ADDRESS>= PASSWORD('newpass');
[06:54] <kakalto> Warbo: hmm, grub could be kinda interesting
[06:54] <Desh> Warbo, in this case: radeon?
[06:54] <Kirk> Does "PASSWORD" mean insert the old password, or do I leave that portion of the command as it is?
[06:54] <Desh> Warbo: it is supposed to load "ati" not "radeon"
[06:54] <Warbo> Desh: The radeon driver doesn't have 3D on your card (I think)
[06:54] <bur[n] er> kakalto: "sudo grub-install /dev/hda" after you've chrooted to your new environment!
[06:54] <holycow> for anyone looking for games ... here is a very cool fps: http://tremulous.net/index.php?section=shots
[06:55] <bur[n] er> holycow: thank you digg
[06:55] <kakalto> bur[n] er: well, the thing is, I'm sticking it on a completely different computer
[06:55] <Kirk> Awesome, thanks bud.
[06:55] <Kirk> :)
[06:55] <holycow> no debian package yet ... maybe will package it if i have time
[06:55] <kakalto> bur[n] er: there's no hdd in that computer at the moment
[06:55] <Warbo> Desh: ATI is a Free 2D driver, radeon is a 3D (usually) Free driver and fglrx is a 3D non-Free driver
[06:55] <holycow> bur[n] er, lol, indeedy
[06:55] <kakalto> bur[n] er: it's just, I want to save the data I have on that drive
[06:55] <holycow> bur[n] er, seems like all the sites i've been reading now get their links from digg indeed
[06:55] <Desh> Warbo: but in xorg.conf I set it to use ati not radeon, why would it load radeon?
[06:55] <kakalto> sadly I don't have a spare 13gb around =S
[06:56] <Warbo> holycow: Any idea about Doomsday packages for Ubuntu? I can't find any addons :(
[06:56] <garryF>  ATI Radeon 9700 3D requires xorg-driver-fglrx, see BinaryDriverHowto
[06:56] <Desh> Warbo: How do I check the driver being useed?
[06:56] <holycow> Warbo, no idea actually, havent had too much time to muck about
[06:56] <Warbo> Desh: No idea sorry (I've only been using an ATI for a few weeks)
[06:56] <Desh> garryF: fglrx will not work tho. :(
[06:57] <bur[n] er> kakalto: you can always use a boot cd to accesss the data, no worries
[06:57] <vigilante> Solved my sound problem with quake/doom, got alsa working, if anyone else is interested in the solution let me know
[06:57] <kakalto> bur[n] er: yeah, true
[06:57] <bur[n] er> even if the os doesn't boot from the hdd, a cd will be a nice stepping stone to fixing it
[06:57] <garryF> Desh  Hmmm.
[06:57] <kakalto> so....
[06:57] <Warbo> holycow: Doomsday is a great 3D engine for Doom and Doom 2. In Breezy there was a repository with all of the extras, but for Dapper there is just the engine, so it is just like PrBoom or something (no 3D, no particle effects, hires textures, etc.) :(
[06:57] <kakalto> cp -arv.... what's the command to stay in this partition when copying?
[06:58] <Desh> drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1023
[06:58] <Desh> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card43
[06:58] <Desh> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
[06:58] <Desh> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
[06:58] <Warbo> kakalto: -x I think?
[06:58] <kakalto> uhm
[06:58] <holycow> Warbo, oh i see, neato
[06:58] <kakalto> Warbo: I'll man it
[06:58] <Desh> It says that from card like 0 or 1 to like 200 or something
[06:58] <richard_> uhg... i'm beat, g'night and good luck all
[06:58] <holycow> Warbo, thx for the heads up bro
[06:58] <bur[n] er> holycow: you try tremulous yet?
[06:58] <johnsandman> I need two files (pictures) to compare is there a tool or which command must I use
[06:58] <Warbo> I tried Tremulous. It's entirely network based isn't it?
[06:58] <bur[n] er> i have no idea
[06:58] <holycow> bur[n] er, nope, downloading  now :) i just thought to get peeps interest in something free and decent :)
[06:59] <kakalto> yeah, -x =)
[06:59] <torpedo|dog> johnsandman: how so?
[06:59] <garryF> diff
[06:59] <holycow> according to reviews anyway, hehe
[06:59] <bur[n] er> i'm downloading too, but what if it sucks? ;)
[06:59] <torpedo|dog> johnsandman: that is to say, what do you want to compare?
[06:59] <johnsandman> these pictures are split
[06:59] <Vit7oO> i just formated my win partition (hda1) which is my boot partition to ext3, did i loose grub by formating?
[06:59] <garryF> Use it as a vacuum cleaner.
[06:59] <Warbo> holycow: I was just wandering around a map on my own. Maybe I'll try it now that my Internet works again :)
[07:00] <garryF> Hmmm, depends on if the grub is in the mbr or in the partition.
[07:00] <johnsandman> two parts of one pic howto make one pic of it?
[07:00] <torpedo|dog> johnsandman: sorry, I'm not getting what you mean.
[07:00] <q_a_z_steve> !gphone
[07:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about gphone - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:00] <sysrpl> hello
[07:00] <Warbo> hi
[07:00] <sysrpl> what is a way to see files modified in the last 4 hours?
[07:01] <sysrpl> say in my home dir downward?
[07:01] <Warbo> sysrpl: Hmm, maybe some script that uses ls -l and grep?
[07:01] <kakalto> pentium3 is i686, right? even pentium2 is i686, right?
[07:02] <mheath> Right.
[07:02] <LordBrain> are there any dialup modems that are known to be autodetected and work well?
[07:02] <Warbo> I think Pentium 3 is 686, I think PII is 586?
[07:02] <sysrpl> i am using find ~/ -type d -exec dir -l {} \;|grep 2006-07-13 but it's slow as hell
[07:02] <kakalto> hmm
[07:02] <Warbo> LordBrain: ANY which is external
[07:02] <mheath> Pentium 1 is 586.
[07:02] <Warbo> LordBrain: (serial, not USB)
[07:02] <mheath> Pentium III is 686. Anything newer than Pentium 1 is 686.\
[07:02] <kakalto> I was going to say, would I notice speed increases on a pentium2 if I switched to the -686 kernel?
[07:02] <Desh> What is 386?
[07:02] <mheath> kakalto, no.
[07:02] <johnsandman> pentium I
[07:02] <Warbo> Desh: 386 is an ancient model of PC processor
[07:03] <rixth> Why would xorg ignore my config file? I want to set my resolution to 1920x1200 but it's not doing it.
[07:03] <LordBrain> Warbo: serial modems are auto-detected?
[07:03] <kakalto> johnsandman: that's not 386
[07:03] <rixth> I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:03] <Desh> :(!! Why does DRI not work!! WAH!
[07:03] <kakalto> there were, like, 286, 386, 486, pentium, etc?
[07:03] <Warbo> LordBrain: Dialup apps (like gnome-ppp) are auto-setup to use them, so just enter your details and click connect
[07:03] <mheath> Desh, 386 was a processor series than Intel made during the 1980's. All modern processors are based off the features and machine language of that processor.
[07:03] <johnsandman> mostly it is isn't it
[07:03] <mheath> *all modern intel and amd processors
[07:03] <Warbo> Desh: ATI and Radeon drivers WILL NOT give DRI on your card. Fglrx may
[07:03] <Desh> (WW) RADEON(0): Failed to detect secondary monitor, MergedFB/Clone mode disabled
[07:04] <Desh> That means it is trying to get  a 2nd monitor! how do I stop that?
[07:04] <garryF> If you don't have a second monitor, I would not worry about it.
[07:05] <Desh> :( I'm scared that's screwing with fglrx.
[07:05] <sysrpl> hrm ... what command dumps the contents of a file?
[07:05] <Desh> Wel let's try it out, be back in a while..
[07:05] <garryF> more
[07:05] <mheath> sysrpl, cat
[07:05] <LordBrain> warbo... suppose i give a live-cd to my friend who has a serial modem hooked up... once booted they can just run gnome-ppp and fill it in and wammo they are online?
[07:05] <Kirk> LD
[07:05] <Kirk> ":D
[07:05] <Kirk> THIS OWNS!
[07:05] <garryF> or even les, and cat
[07:05] <Kirk> I actually got VHCS2 installed!
[07:05] <Kirk> :D
[07:05] <garryF> less
[07:05] <Kirk> Ubuntu owns!
[07:05] <Kirk> :)
[07:05] <sysrpl> ty
[07:05] <Kirk> Thanks to everyone who helped me earlier today!
[07:05] <Kirk> :)
[07:06] <Kirk> Free hosting for everyone who helped me, and anyone else who wants it.  :P  www.alphahertz.com.  ;)
[07:06] <Kirk> lolz
[07:06] <Kirk> This IRC owns
[07:06] <rixth> Part of xorg.conf is here. http://pastie.caboo.se/4420 please tell my whyt X is only running at 1280x1024.
[07:06] <Kirk> You can trust i'll be back!
[07:06] <Kirk> :)
[07:06] <mheath> sysrpl, that simply prints the contents of the file. If you want it in a nice format for you to read, try 'less'
[07:06] <rredd4> i use the 686 kernel, how do I make synaptic not want to download the latest 386 kernel.  (when I download something, it says there are 386 kernel upgrades that I don't want)
[07:06] <Warbo> LordBrain: I am not sure what dialup app is installed by default, but I would guess so. Serial devices are not autodetected, but their device name (/dev/ttys0) is usually the default anyway (so they don't need to be autodetected)
[07:06] <Kirk> Bye for now!
[07:06] <rixth> !tell Kirk about aolbonics
[07:06] <q_a_z_steve> rixth, you missed him
[07:07] <Warbo> rredd4: Look for a "linux-386" or "linux-image-386" package and get rid of it
[07:07] <mheath> rixth, most of the time that resolutions aren't working despite being specified in the config file, it is because your video card doesn't suppor that resolution at that depth.
[07:07] <rredd4> Marbo, ok
[07:07] <Warbo> It's a W!!!!
[07:07] <rixth> mheath, how can I find out what is supported?
[07:08] <mheath> rixth, check your video card documentation. If it does indeed support that resolution, then try adjusting the depth in the config file. Lower it.
[07:08] <garryF> !tell rixth about hardware
[07:08] <thegattaca> How does one disable tap-to-click on an Alps touch pad device in dapper drake?
[07:08] <rredd4> Marbo, you mean the one that is on my computer now?  I have 386 and 686 kernel, but only use the 386.
[07:08] <Warbo> Are TabletPC drivers any good in Xorg?
[07:08] <SurfnKid> does anyone have any idea where to find the i8k.o file for sensors on Dell Inspiron/Latitude laptops
[07:08] <Greylox> Does anybody know how to make the fonts larger in here?
[07:09] <rredd4> Marbo, i use the 686
[07:09] <Warbo> rredd4: There are met-packages (packages which don't provide anything, they just depend on other ones) which always depend on the latest 386 kernel, so uninstall them
[07:09] <Warbo> meta-packages
[07:09] <wims> Greylox,  what do you mean about 'in here' ?
[07:10] <rredd4> ok
[07:10] <Warbo> Greylox: Preferences?
[07:10] <rredd4> ty
[07:10] <ralsheb> if my system detects the cdrom drive fine at post but ubuntu server install cant  mount it what should i fix?
 you can config it preference
[07:10] <KurtKraut> With that program I can create a font (= *.ttf in Windows) to Linux ?
[07:10] <garryF> Settings/preferences if you are using xchat
[07:10] <Warbo> And GAIM
[07:10] <Warbo> sorry, I thought you said System
[07:10] <Greylox> wims I mean in this chat room ok on my computer my tired eyes wold like a larger font
[07:11] <Warbo> Greylox: What IRC program are you using?
[07:11] <wims> Greylox,  it depends on your irc client
[07:11] <Greylox> Xchat
[07:11] <Warbo> Greylox: See the message above
[07:11] <wims> settings->preferences
[07:12] <rixth> Now I am stuck at freakin 1024x768 with 8 bit colour. I know my card can do 1920x1200. Why won't it output it?
[07:12] <wims> driver issue maybe ?
[07:12] <holycow> !resolution
[07:12] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:13] <holycow> rixth, you need the proper vertical and horizontal refresh rates for your monitor model, that needs to be input in your /etc/x11/xorg.conf file
[07:14] <CarlFK> I am having a sound problem: 'everyting' echos 16 times - something simple like play /usr/share/hwdb-client/sound.wav which should take about 2 seconds takes Time: 00:01.64
[07:15] <Warbo> CarlFK: Do you have your Mic next to your speaker? :)
[07:15] <CarlFK> lol
[07:15] <rixth> holycow, http://pastie.caboo.se/4421 still doesn't work. Nor does it at 16 bit.
[07:16] <CarlFK> good Q, but no mic
[07:16] <garryF> Or underneath the cat and youa re petting the cat?
[07:17] <J-_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-ntfs/   check that out
[07:18] <J-_> think it's stable enough to run on ubuntu?
[07:18] <Warbo> J-_: Run, probably. Be included? I don't hink so
[07:18] <rixth> wHERE DO i PUT "MODELINES"
[07:18] <rixth> Er, caps.
[07:19] <Greylox> I am using the Gnome desktop and when I minimize a window it just vanishes but the program keeps running ie the XMMS music player was minimized, the music is still playing but I cannot recall the GUI
[07:19] <sharms> rixth: in the xorg.conf screen section
[07:20] <Warbo> Greylox: Try alt-tab
[07:21] <CarlFK> Greylox: did your taskbar (thing at the bottom) go away?
[07:21] <Warbo> Greylox: XMMS uses a skin (rather than a normal GTK widget set) so maybe that is screwing it up
[07:21] <synth7> what are the minimum ubuntu specs?
[07:21] <XrekcaH> ***Hey, How Do i Use ".sh.bin" Files i cant seem to extract it any ideas???***
[07:21] <synth7> aka what will it run on?
[07:21] <rixth> I'll ask my question formally.
[07:21] <kakalto>  /proc doesn't change on a per-distrobution basis, does it?
[07:21] <tach00_> can someone PLEASE help me, i cant burn cd's, tried it on 2 versions of linux, it just does nothing
[07:21] <CarlFK> synth7: P1-48mb - but you wont like it
[07:21] <sysrpl> what is a regular expression for searching for lines that have either the words sad or happy in them?
[07:21] <rixth> How do I get xorg to output 1920 x 1200 at 24 bit depth? I have an fx5200 card.
[07:22] <CarlFK> synth7: not p1 - 386, 48mb
[07:22] <Warbo> XrekcaH: "sh filename.sh" or "./filename.bin"
[07:22] <rixth> sysdoc, /(sad|happy)/
[07:22] <sharms> kakalto: /proc is kernel dependent, not distribution
[07:22] <Greylox> CarlFK> task bar is still here
[07:22] <kakalto> sharms: is it generated on boot or?
[07:22] <sharms> !tell rixth about x11
[07:22] <sharms> kakalto: generated while system is running, not static
[07:23] <rixth> sharms, I've looked at iot
[07:23] <kakalto> sharms: cool thanks.
[07:23] <J-_> Warbo: when will ntfs support for external hard drives be included? will fuse be stable soon, any headway yet?
[07:23] <sysrpl> grep -e[sad|happy] tix: that's not working :(
[07:23] <sysrpl> rixth: that doesnt work :(
[07:23] <sharms> rixth: no you didn't or you wouldn't be asking.
[07:23] <geeksauce> there has GOT to be a decent bittorrent client out there for linux.  bittornado sucks IMO, and i can't relly find one on par with utorrent for windows.  anyone know of something that can match or beat utorrent?
[07:24] <Warbo> J-_: FUSE is stable. It is in the kernel
[07:24] <sharms> rixth: and if you are telling me that  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto does not hold your hand through the entire process, and describes everything, then nobody here can help you.
[07:24] <Warbo> J-_: FUSE DRIVERS are all individual
[07:24] <rixth> sharms, I think I am an anomoly (sp?)
[07:24] <J-_> ahh, is ther support for any ubuntu drivers for ext. drives coming soon then?
[07:24] <sharms> rixth: maybe try to ask a more specific question, after following the guide what happened?
[07:25] <XrekcaH> Warbo, Umm the fille is "Filename.sh.bin" and its not working
[07:25] <rixth> sharms, my monitor is now stretching 1024x768 at 24 depth
[07:25] <tach00_> can someone PLEASE help me, i cant burn cd's, tried it on 2 versions of linux, and with 2 cd burners, it just does nothing.
[07:25] <J-_> i jsut don't want to run someone on my system and have it screw up my computer OR my ext. drive
[07:25] <rredd4> Marbo when I tell synaptic to remove the 386 kernel (2.6.15-25), synaptic wants to install "linux-image 2.6.15-26-386" and "upgrade linux-image-386"  I want to remove the 386 kernel without installing any 386 kernels.  how do I stop this so that I can just remove only the 386 kernel?
[07:25] <J-_> paid a pretty penny for that baby
[07:26] <sharms> rixth: under display, it should read: modes "1920x1200"
[07:26] <Warbo> J-_: I run my entire system off an external drive. They are no different from internal (except my BIOS can't bootit)
[07:27] <J-_> hmm, that's cool. thanks for the info... what driver do you use?
[07:27] <Sir_Fawnpug> MAn glibc is a big compile.
[07:27] <Warbo> J-_: I use reiserFS and ext3
[07:27] <garryF> !k3b
[07:27] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto
[07:27] <rixth> sharms, it does
[07:27] <J-_> k cool, thanks, i'll look into that. does it support ntfs?
[07:27] <Sir_Fawnpug> AHH! KDE will burn my house down!
[07:27] <rixth> sharms, I did have to change the refresh frequencies, though.
[07:28] <sharms> rixth: I would visit ubuntu forums, write a forum post, include your /var/log/xorg output in the post, and /msg the link to me
[07:28] <Warbo> J-_: NTFS is a filesystem. ReiserFS and Ext3 are different filesystems :)
[07:28] <J-_> d'oh
[07:28] <J-_> thanks lol
[07:28] <Vit7oO> hi again, i formated my fat32 partition to ext3, no i cant mount it, i get: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1 missing codepage or other error.
[07:29] <holycow> !fstab
[07:29] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[07:29] <sharms> Vit7oO: use the -t ext3 option
[07:29] <Warbo> Vit7oO: Run "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" and change the type from vfat to ext3
[07:29] <holycow> make sure you refer to ext3 properly in your fstab
[07:29] <synd2> How do I get Ubuntu + network-manager to work with WPA?
[07:29] <tach00_> I know everyone gets tired of hearing this one, but can someone PLEASE help me, i cant burn cd's, tried it on 2 versions of linux, and with 2 cd burners, it gets to the point where its supposed to be burning and then just does nothing.
[07:29] <CarlFK> does ubuntuforums use the same user/pw as launchpad or wiki?
[07:29] <universee> oh,how can i join the mail-lists of linux kernel developing,who can help me ?ttks
[07:30] <Warbo> tach00_: Have you tried cdrecord from the console? (Are there 2.6 issues around that?)
[07:30] <AssCandy> can somone give me a hand regarding networking
[07:30] <CarlFK> tach00_: use cdrecord, use the test option that won't really burn a CD
[07:31] <tach00_> warbo: yes and i have read all the forums, it doesnt address my problem, i think there is something wrong with my system or maybe i havent installed something right
[07:31] <synd2> How do I get Ubuntu + network-manager to work with WPA?
[07:31] <CarlFK> AssCandy: maybe, but please change your nick
[07:31] <AssCandy> sure
[07:31] <holycow> !wpa
[07:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[07:31] <Warbo> tach00_: Does the drive appear when you boot?
[07:31] <Warbo> (in the POST)
[07:31] <sysrpl> if i wanted to see what files were modified in 2005 or 2004 where would be the regular expression for 'dir /usr -l -R|grep -e'(what goes here>"?
[07:31] <CarlFK> thanks
[07:32] <CarlFK> sysrpl: if that is what you want, look at the find command
[07:32] <rixth> sharms, bash: /var/log/xorg: No such file or directory
[07:32] <tach00_> warbo: yes, its there and accessable, just when i try to burn, it says "starting dao" and just sits on 0% forever
[07:32] <Kirk_> I need help here. :|
[07:32] <CarlFK> MachineHeD: and now ask a real question :)
[07:32] <raxip> sup?
[07:32] <Kirk_> One second
[07:32] <Kirk_> Let me try one more thing
[07:33] <Kirk_> I'm having control panel apache messups. :|
[07:33] <MachineHeD> anyways i just installed ubuntu on my computer with dual boot so my fiancee can use windows and i cant get the internet to work
[07:33] <tach00_> warbo: its done it with balg and ubuntu, has to be something in a setting that i dont know about, at first i thought it was a bug, but bugs arent on more than one machine
[07:33] <sharms> rixth: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:33] <rixth> alright
[07:34] <MachineHeD> could it be my network drivers
[07:34] <Warbo> tach00_: Sorry, the only help I could offer is anecdotal, but your problem isn't like any I've encountered
[07:34] <Kirk_> !pastebin
[07:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:34] <rixth> sharms, relevant: " No valid modes for "1920x1200"; removing."
[07:34] <tach00_> warbo: i know, thats why i came to you guys, because i know its something i know nothing about
[07:34] <Kirk_> I needed the url
[07:34] <Kirk_> lol
[07:34] <sharms> tach00_: what program are you using to burn
[07:35] <raxip> I'll soon find out
[07:35] <rixth> So my card doesn't support that resolution /at all/?
[07:35] <CarlFK> MachineHeD: it could be. Apps, Accessories, Terminal, ifconfig - do you get a line that says something like inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS> ?
[07:35] <MachineHeD> nope
[07:35] <J-_> anyone try NTFS GNOME??