 We need to find a date for this year's RAT: http://doodle.com/poll/qw7ehwk5dnweviyp
[09:28] <Laney> is there floor/sofa/bed space available?
[09:28] <Laney> :)
[09:29] <zmoylan-pi> how many tonnes of coal can you shovel per hour? :-P
[09:36] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: depends how much I'm being paid
[09:36] <davmor2> bigcalm: bit early for you isn't it
[09:41] <bigcalm> davmor2: I'm here to promote the RAT
[09:42] <davmor2> bigcalm: you should talk to JamesTait he's caught a few apparently :D
[09:44] <zmoylan-pi> there's probably an ointment for that... :-)
[10:12] <MooDoo> roland rat?
[10:13] <zmoylan-pi> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh
[10:14] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[13:18] <bigcalm> Dave, popey, czajkowski: RAT? http://doodle.com/poll/qw7ehwk5dnweviyp
[13:21] <czajkowski> bigcalm: cheers
[13:24] <bigcalm> czajkowski: will you be married by then?
[13:25] <czajkowski> yup
[13:25] <Dave> already?
[13:25] <Dave> That was to the RAT survey
[13:25] <czajkowski> 5 weeks time
[13:25] <Dave> Not marriage.
[13:26] <bigcalm> Dave: yes, I started planning last years in Feb
[13:26] <bigcalm> It's a bit late this time
[13:28] <czajkowski>  /c
[13:29] <bigcalm> popey: I am holding you responsible for my ordering a Pebble Time
[13:29] <popey> Excellent.
[13:29] <popey> I love mine
[13:30] <bigcalm> Now that I've ordered it, I want it now!
[13:30] <bigcalm> I've become far too accustomed to Amazon Prime
[13:36] <popey> heh
[13:36] <popey> I have a keyboard arriving today
[13:37] <popey> was on special offer on amazon last week
[13:37] <zmoylan-pi> going cheap, great keyboard as long as you don't need the letter e? :-)
[13:39] <Myrtti> does RAT have any nice non-alcholic drinks or is it just ale and such?
[13:40] <Myrtti> and is the non-alcoholic just bogstandard cola and lemonade?
[13:40] <zmoylan-pi> that would be a great brand name for softdrinks... bogstandard... :-)
[13:41] <Myrtti> lol
[13:41] <Myrtti> true
[13:41] <Myrtti> gah I need to get dressed
[13:41] <Myrtti> jammin' in my jammies doesn't work when I need to do a village walk to the library and pharmacy
[13:42] <zmoylan-pi> for that you need a tux onsie... :-D
[13:43] <Myrtti> need to go flip some Which? magazines, not superexcited but someone has to do it
[13:43] <Myrtti> BBL
[13:46] <foobarry> what u choosing from which Myrtti
[13:46] <bigcalm> Myrtti: I think it's just your run of the mill cans and such. I'm not sure. Full details here: http://www.watercressline.co.uk/product.php/10/real-ale-train-r-a-t
[13:46] <zmoylan-pi> reading which which magazine to decide which which magazine to read...
[13:47] <foobarry> i'm in 2 minds about pi day
[13:47] <foobarry> due to the US date format, which is illogical
[13:48] <foobarry> we always have 22/7 but it is a poor approximation, but then again 3.14 is worse
[13:49] <Myrtti> foobarry: lots of things :-)
[13:49] <foobarry> does your library do online mag subs thru zinio?
[13:49] <Myrtti> bigcalm: yeah, that's what I thought. D doesn't drink and I don't much either so it's a bit meh if it's just RWhites and whatnot.
[13:49] <foobarry> mine does but most were gay times and hello magazine
[13:49] <Myrtti> foobarry: yeah, but I don't have a library card yet
[13:50] <Myrtti> so I can't log in
[13:50] <popey> \o/ new keyboard time
[13:51] <foobarry> cherry or nipple?
[13:52] <popey> cherry
[13:52] <popey> humph
[13:52] <popey> supposed to be uk layout, is US
[13:52] <foobarry> heh
[13:52]  * popey checks his order
[13:52] <foobarry> colleague had the same happen to him
[13:52] <foobarry> was a cheap chinese knockoff
[13:53] <foobarry> so is taking the keys and putting on a new keyboard "chassis"
[13:53] <popey> already pressed # instead of enter multiple times
[13:53] <popey> hah
[13:53] <zmoylan-pi> a mate ordered wireless keyboard and mouse set and got a wireless keyboard and wired mouse... not a happy bunny but it was exactly as described... :-P
[13:53] <popey> bah, it says english layout, should have checked better#
[13:53] <popey> gah!  😃
[13:54] <foobarry> US english.
[13:54] <foobarry> sneakty
[13:54] <foobarry> my local council website has every page that is the leaf of the html tree as a pdf
[13:54] <foobarry> really annoying
[13:55] <foobarry> you can't just browse the site looking for the info u want
[13:58] <foobarry> ooh it appears my library now has better zinio mags
[13:58] <foobarry> linux format, linux user, finescale modeler
[13:59] <foobarry> 2 different minecraft mags , 4 different quilting
[14:02] <popey> good job this keyboard is actually for the "gaming" computer
[14:02] <zmoylan-pi> enough quilting magazine to make a bigger magazine... :-)
[14:07] <Myrtti> lol
[15:37] <Seeker`> popey: what games do you play?
[15:39] <popey> Seeker`: mostly stuff on steam
[15:39] <popey> popeydc is my steam id if you want to see :)
[15:40] <Seeker`> I'll have a look when I get home :)
[15:40] <Myrtti> and to my disappointment it turns out that the village library doesn't in fact carry Which? magazine. And no library card means no online mags either.
[15:40] <davmor2> Seeker`: popey plays monkey island, jetset willy, manic miner, and beneath a steel sky if he says anything else he is lying ;)
[15:41] <Seeker`> no leisure suit larry?
[15:41] <popey> i got scummvm working on ubuntu phone
[15:41] <davmor2> Seeker`: only after completing guantlet
[15:41] <popey> so yeah, leisure suit larry could be :)
[15:42] <diddledan> larry ftw!
[15:43] <diddledan> new series I been watching - just started airing on alibi - quantico. tis awesome!
[15:44] <diddledan> another one that looks like it's gonna turn out fun is blindspot
[16:14] <foobarry> has anyone used rpy2 for mixing python code with R?
[16:19] <davmor2> john oliver on encryption hilarious sadly true but hilarious :)
[16:19] <davmor2> nsfw
[16:19] <diddledan> wtf?  I need to go to the town to fiddle with the physical copies then
[21:31] <popey> ali1234: saw this and thought of you https://twitter.com/grim_fandango/status/709490922883575810
[21:32] <ali1234> popey: he's my only user
[21:32] <popey> hah!
[21:32] <ali1234> http://www.alphr.com/life-culture/1002880/the-teletext-salvagers-how-vhs-is-bringing-teletext-back-from-the-dead
[21:34] <popey> oh I'd not seen it written up
[21:35] <ali1234> i dont think anyone did
[21:36] <ali1234> i got more emails after it was on boingboing
[21:36] <ali1234> more than zero that is :)
[21:36] <ali1234> also pretty sure that is where mr o'malley saw it
[21:41] <popey> :)
[21:41] <popey> is he just collecting VHS tapes and scouring them for teletext streams?
[21:41] <ali1234> yes? also other teletext related activities, but i don't know exactly what
[21:42] <ali1234> there's a facebook group... but i don't check it that often.... because facebook
[21:44] <popey> neat
[21:44] <ali1234> there's also a podcast :)
[21:48] <popey> a podcast, about teletext in 2016? :)
[21:48] <popey> brilliant
[21:48] <ali1234> i warn you know, it's not a high quality production
[21:48] <ali1234> but yes
[21:48] <zmoylan-pi> you have to listen to it 2-3 times before it makes sense? :-)
[21:48] <ali1234> sometimes
[21:49] <ali1234> they do talk over each other a lot, and then don't edit it out
[21:49] <popey> please tell me episode one is numbered 100 ?
[21:49] <ali1234> sadly not
[21:50] <zmoylan-pi> 103 tells you were all the good episodes will be...
[22:10] <diddledan> I wonder why amazon doesn't support Firefox for HTML5 video?
[22:10] <diddledan> only Chrome is supported on loonicks
[22:10] <diddledan> better than nothing though
[22:17] <ahayzen> probably the same DRM reason as netflix ?
[22:18] <diddledan> I thought Firefox did DRM these days?
[22:18] <ahayzen> not sure i remember it having parts of it
[22:19] <ahayzen> maybe try changing the user agent and see if they are just blacklisting :-)


[18:03] <systest> Anyone have a pointer to a doc describing what the arguments to cloud-init do?  specifically, what section of the config us parsed when "init --local" is used?
[18:25] <kwadronaut> systest: http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
[18:25] <kwadronaut> no-cloud datasource iirc
[18:25] <kwadronaut> i hope now you have enough reading materials until someone else pops by in irc to better help you ;-)
[18:28] <systest> thanks. I've seen those docs, just missed that section.  I'll check it out now.


[14:25] <astraljava> len_: Ok, thanks for checking that out.
[14:26] <astraljava> So the new kernel landed, I want to use this opportunity *smirk* to encourage everyone to do some further testing. I'm not sure whether it's kernel-related, but I've noticed some corruption of packets on heavy-duty file transfer over ssh, so will do some debugging over the weekend.
[14:28] <astraljava> Thanks again, TheMuso, for updating the kernel tree!


[00:39] <pleia2> akgraner: btw, we don't send to -translators anymore
[00:39] <pleia2> (no one translates it)
[00:39] <pleia2> and we don't have translations stats
[00:40] <Unit193> And we ping Unit193 for dead links. ;)
[00:40] <pleia2> pierre-slamich added some translations stats suggestions last week though to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Ideas
[00:41] <pleia2> I don't have time to follow up until I get back
[00:42] <pleia2> I do have "check for dead links" and link to the W3 validator on the howto, perhaps that should be "ping Unit193" :)
[01:08] <akgraner> pleia2, gotcha
[01:08] <JoseeAntonioR> akgraner: I can do both, can send you a link to the file
[01:08] <akgraner> yep thanks
[01:08] <JoseeAntonioR> (sorry, was not online)
[01:08] <akgraner> JoseeAntonioR, it's fine - we'll get it all worked out
[01:09] <akgraner> I'm just rusty  - feel free to beat me up :-) (kindly)
[01:09] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[01:10] <akgraner> JoseeAntonioR, you have mail
[01:11]  * JoseeAntonioR checks
[01:11] <akgraner> all the formatting is there for the forums except I can't talk out the spaces for some reason :-?
[01:11] <JoseeAntonioR> which spaces?
[01:11] <JoseeAntonioR> it's double spaced?
[01:12] <JoseeAntonioR> akgraner: ^
[01:12] <akgraner> yep
[01:13] <JoseeAntonioR> akgraner: replied back
[01:15] <akgraner> pleia2, I can follow up with the translations ideas and it looks like its ideas we explored before but maybe now is the right time
[01:15] <akgraner> :-/
[01:16] <JoseeAntonioR> working on fridge
[01:19] <JoseeAntonioR> akgraner: can we still update the wiki?
[01:19] <akgraner> Forums posted :-)  Thank you
[01:19] <akgraner> JoseeAntonioR, yep
[01:20] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, let me fix a couple errors
[01:20] <akgraner> Go for it - sorry I didn't catch it  :-/
[01:20] <akgraner> But we'll get back in a groove sooner rather than later - you all are awesome sorry I am so rusty :-P
[01:20] <JoseeAntonioR> no worries
[01:21] <akgraner> I've got some work I need to do - ping me on gmail when you have the Fridge post ready
[01:21] <JoseeAntonioR> sure
[01:22] <JoseeAntonioR> almost done
[01:24] <JoseeAntonioR> akgraner: submitted for review
[03:46] <JoseeAntonioR> nhandler: ping
[06:41] <dholbach> good morning
[11:30] <akgraner> JoseeAntonioR, it's published
[11:35] <JoseeAntonioR> thanks, akgraner!
[12:38] <akgraner> JoseeAntonioR, you're wecome  - We'll get this done sooner next week :-)
[18:17] <akgraner> I've got the release announcement for Thursday covered, just so you all know.


[18:37] <chilts> morning all
[18:37] <chilts> ibeardslee: down to the South Island to a secret location :)
[18:37] <chilts> hehe
[18:43] <ibeardslee> heh
[18:43] <ibeardslee> morning
[18:44] <ibeardslee> settling into married life then?
[19:29] <ajmitch> morning
[19:32] <ojwb> morning
[20:28] <mwhudson> morning
[21:36] <thumper> morning
[21:38] <hads> morning
[21:46] <G> morning
[21:51] <snail> mōrena
[22:26] <chilts> ibeardslee: yeah, it's pretty good, am enjoying it so far :)
[22:26] <chilts> can't say I made the wrong choice
[22:27] <ojwb> well, there can be no higher praise than that


[00:06] <darsie> hi
[00:06] <darsie> What do you recommend to use for skype video calls?
[00:07] <wxl> um, skype? XD
[00:07] <darsie> Ok, so from the skype site. Didn't find it in synaptic.
[00:07] <wxl> right right
[00:07] <wxl> i think:
[00:07] <wxl> !skype
[00:07] <wxl> that MAY be updated
[00:07] <wxl> i think i just installed it from the skype site, tho
[00:08] <wxl> i also think it may still be in the partner repo
[00:08] <wxl> !partner
[00:09] <darsie> ok, thx.
[00:09] <wxl> np
[00:09] <darsie> I'm too exhausted for that now, though.
[00:09] <wxl> heheh understood
[00:09] <wxl> end of my day here
[00:09] <wxl> about to head out
[00:09] <wxl> so rest well ;)
[00:09] <darsie> thx
[00:09] <darsie> sem
[00:09] <darsie> same
[00:11] <darsie> btw, thanks for lubuntu. It makes this acer aspire one useful again. With Windows XP it was notoriously out of memory etc.
[00:12] <darsie> 8 GB SSD, 1 GB RAM, Atom N270 (IIRC). Single core (two logical) at 1.6 GHz.
[00:13] <darsie> before that
[00:13] <darsie> before that I tried slitaz, which was very slim, but it's web browsers didn't work, including firefox 10 (sic).
[00:14] <darsie> Well, they didn't work for some sites.
[01:46] <Guest20516> can I use lubuntu on touchscreens?
[01:46] <holstein> try it.. should work fine
[01:46] <holstein> i wouldnt expect amazing mutli-finger support..
[01:46] <Guest20516> touchscreen tablets, lubuntu has that virtual keyboard too ?
[01:47] <holstein> there will be many virtual keyboards in the repos
[01:47] <Guest20516> I see
[01:47] <Guest20516> does lubuntu work on the fly with touchscreen tablets ? or do i need to install something from the repository to get the touchscreen enabled
[01:49] <holstein> Guest20516: there is nothing about lubuntu preventing that device from working with it
[01:50] <holstein> i dont have it, or know specifically what model it is.. or, if i did, if i could say it would support linux/lubuntu or not
[01:50] <holstein> but, i would just try it, since, lubuntu is completely free, and open for you tro try it
[01:50] <holstein> to try it*
[01:50] <Guest20516> i mean, do I have to apt-get anything from the repositories to enable touchscreen in lubuntu ?
[01:51] <holstein> Guest20516: i dont know, friend.. ideally, the company that sells it would provide you that information.. but, they likely provide that information for another operating system
[01:51] <holstein> Guest20516: i would just try lubuntu, and see if it works. then, i would just read about touchscreen support in ubuntu, generally
[01:52] <Guest20516> i know for certain that ubuntu works with touchscreen
[01:52] <holstein> i have personally only had access to a few touchscreens, and they "just work" with linux..
[01:52] <holstein> Guest20516: lubuntu *is* ubuntu
[01:52] <Guest20516> yea so it should be fine i guess
[01:52] <Guest20516> thanks
[01:52] <holstein> no need to guess. just try it, live, or, install lxde in the ubuntu that you have tested
[02:20] <SparkMasterTape> Hey guys, I am trying to get an old sound card to work
[02:21] <SparkMasterTape> Dell Sound Blaster Live! (emu10k1x)
[02:24] <SparkMasterTape> I downloaded the package ld10k1 through synaptic which they call a patch loader
[02:24] <ianorlin> SparkMasterTape: does sound otherwise work on this?
[02:24] <SparkMasterTape> But thats as far as I know to go. I don't know how to have my machine use this driver opposed to the one thats currently not working
[02:24] <SparkMasterTape> Yes, it was an old Windows XP machine
[02:24] <SparkMasterTape> and it worked before the Lubuntu 15.04 install
[02:26] <SparkMasterTape> Its a 'Dell Sound Blaster Live!' audio card
[02:28] <SparkMasterTape> correction, emu10k1x
[02:28] <SparkMasterTape> after performing aplay -l
[02:38] <ianorlin> ah and that is only audio output?
[09:35] <nwdg> hello, trying to get some sound output from xchat, alsa's working but no sounds from xchat, anybody?
[09:47] <pmish> good morning
[09:48] <nwdg> morning
[09:48] <pmish> i have a question regarding flashing a bootable sd card
[09:49] <pmish> i use lubuntu for an embedded system but my linux experience is little
[09:49] <pmish> when i flash the sd card with that appropriate image i always get a root partition that is just large enough for the system
[09:49] <pmish> i get into trouble when i want to download additions to the system i.e. java
[09:50] <pmish> is there a way to use the whole of the sd card for "linuxroot"
[09:50] <pmish> ?
[09:50] <pmish> meaning one partition only
[09:50] <nwdg> lemme check
[09:51] <pmish> thanks
[09:57] <nwdg> you can plug the sd card in a machine and boot from disk to install lubuntu, then select the sd as destination and using gparted (which is the visual tool to create partitions) create a single partition on the sd and install the system there
[10:03] <pmish> okay i'll give it a try, thanks nwdg
[10:04] <nwdg> yw, let me know if u need help
[12:02] <abrakuku> been using lubuntu for years, just applied updates (which i do every day), and now: bluetooth manager has disappeared, vlc (installed by deb) has disappeared, tresorit (installed by deb) has disappeared, WTF is going on..?
[12:19] <leszek> abrakuku: the update manager should show you a big big warning box if it tries to remove something
[12:27] <holstein> abrakuku: disapeared?
[12:29] <abrakuku> after the reboot, everything i described did happen. i am 100% certain i didnt uninstall bluetooth manager (or vlc or tresorit), yet it disappeared, bluetooth manager is a system app.  this then is my last day of ubuntu/or linux for that matter, its fckng ridiculous. cya
[12:29] <abrakuku> yes
[12:29] <abrakuku> going to Start > Preferences > its not there anymore
[12:29] <abrakuku> too tired for this bullshit
[12:29] <abrakuku> uninstall lubuntu
[12:29] <abrakuku> bye
[12:30] <holstein> another satisfied customer ;)
[12:57] <leszek> there are simply too many bugs all over the place
[12:57] <leszek> It doesn't matter which operating system
[12:57] <leszek> *buntu never ever learned to handle encrypted drives properly for example
[16:48] <wxl> cc check in with lubuntu team at 1730 UTC (about 30 mins) at #ubuntu-meeting. feel free to join
[16:49] <pleia2> it may be a few minutes earlier depending on how many folks we get from MATE, I wish we didn't do the :30 thing x_x
[16:50] <pleia2> feel free to join #ubuntu-meeting in 10 minutes to see the whole meeting :)
[16:50] <wxl> hahahahah


[01:57] <bluesabre> thanks Unit193
[01:57] <Unit193> Don't forget to push and tag.
[04:57] <knome> ochosi, want it removed? :P
[09:15] <bluesabre> done, thanks again Unit193
[09:15] <knome> so... meeting
[09:16] <knome> tbh i'm not sure i'm able to schedule a meeting that i can make for sure and that is a useful time for most
[09:19] <bluesabre> tomorrow is a holiday in the US... if that helps with flexibility at all
[09:35] <knome> tomorrow is a no go
[09:35] <knome> basically all days from sat-tue every week is very unstable :P
[10:20] <Unit193> bluesabre: Glad to be able to assist.
[10:38] <Unit193> knome: Also, I figure it's because he posted with his one account, it got held since it's not the one he's subbed with so he posted again with that.  You later came along and approved the held one, thus two emails were sent to the list.
[18:07] <knome> i figured it might be on purpose for these kinds of reasons.


[17:05] <JonelethIrenicus> can some one tell me what init tool merge is for translations?
[17:05] <JonelethIrenicus> trying to build a unity 8 app
[17:05] <JonelethIrenicus> missing libraries
[21:13] <JonelethIrenicus> can some one tell me what init tool merge is for translations?