[05:20] <dabaSlon> point the browser to your router web interface, and play around
[05:20] <trygvebw> ok :)
[05:20] <trygvebw> thanks :)
[05:20] <ivoks> fluideye I don't know what are you talking about... what is averatec?
[05:21] <fluideye> notebook
[05:21] <ivoks> ah...
[05:21] <karljp> probably just the adsl one tryg
[05:21] <mdJake> I would like totem-xine if I could set the subtitle font props (size/font)
[05:21] <dabaSlon> trygvebw: you know, like, <IP_ADDRESS>...
[05:21] <trygvebw> karljp, nah
[05:21] <trygvebw> dabaSlon, 'course :)
[05:21] <karljp> the wlan is probably just echoing
[05:21] <ivoks> fluideye wouldn't know...
[05:21] <mdJake> can you tell me how
[05:21] <dabaSlon> k
[05:21] <ivoks> I don't use windows
[05:21] <trygvebw> karljp, it isn't the ADSL router, because it worked before i got the WLAN router...
[05:21] <fluideye> ivoks k
[05:21] <karljp> ok then :)
[05:21] <trygvebw> :)
[05:22] <ivoks> time to go
[05:22] <ivoks> bye all
[05:22] <dabaSlon> bye
[05:22] <IcemanV9> fluideye: xp can do one thing at a time, but ubuntu can do many things at once ... therefore, it gets hot.
[05:22] <trygvebw> Port Forwarding = Virtual Server?
[05:22] <IcemanV9> :P
[05:22] <karljp> probably
[05:23] <trygvebw> ok :)
[05:23] <fluideye> nothing to worry about though?
[05:23] <luvdemheels> Does anyone here have any detailed instructions on setting up 915resolution?
[05:23] <mdJake> dabaSlon, do you have mozilla-mplayer set up?
[05:23] <karljp> mozillamplayer is crap
[05:23] <IcemanV9> correct, fluideye
[05:23] <karljp> it crashes, no play controls
[05:23] <mdJake> not the new 2.80cvs
[05:23] <fluideye> icemanv9 k
[05:23] <karljp> dies if it underruns the buffer
[05:23] <IcemanV9> my notebook gets hot when i was doing a lot of things
[05:23] <mdJake> but crashes - it's true
[05:24] <karljp> well,, the one in apt sucks
[05:24] <mdJake> when I press back button
[05:24] <karljp> and the firefox crashing is pretty unacceptable
[05:24] <mdJake> karljp, you use what?
[05:24] <IcemanV9> fluideye: you'll love Ubuntu once you get used to it
[05:24] <karljp> I complain that they all suck :(
[05:24] <fluideye> icemanv9  i'm a newbie and don't know that i'm asking ubuntu to do many things
[05:24] <fluideye> icemanv9  :^)
[05:24] <karljp> none of them are as reliable as mediaplayer on win32
[05:24] <IcemanV9> fluideye: been there done that
[05:24] <mdJake> IcemanV9, I set up a week ago and I love it
[05:24] <IcemanV9> ;)
[05:25] <IcemanV9> mdJake: same here - two weeks ago
[05:25] <mdJake> karljp, what do you use for streaming media?
[05:25] <luvdemheels> I take it nobody has used 915resolution??
[05:25] <trygvebw> What should the settings in "Virtual Server" be? It's asking for "Protocol", "Private Port", "Public Port" and "LAN Server". What should they be set to?
[05:25] <mdJake> IcemanV9, what distrib before?
[05:25] <fluideye> icemanv9  recommend any apps?
[05:25] <trygvebw> gnomebaker is nice
[05:26] <mdJake> back again
[05:26] <IcemanV9> mdJake: xp freebsd (now, ubuntu)
[05:26] <franklin50> trygvebw: Public port is the outside port, Private is the internal, protocol is either TCP / UDP  Lan server is the IP you want forwarded to
[05:26] <mdJake> IcemanV9, no linux before? :)
[05:27] <IcemanV9> fluideye: check out http://ubuntuguide.org/
[05:27] <trygvebw> franklin50, well, i still doesn't have *any* idea of what they should be set to...
[05:27] <mdJake> fluideye, and ubuntuforums
[05:27] <mdJake> fluideye, too
[05:27] <franklin50> OK, what are you trying to do, exactly?
[05:27] <IcemanV9> mdJake: nope, straight bsd for a long time
[05:27] <fluideye> icemanv9 k
[05:27] <fluideye> mdJake k
[05:27] <klexys> has anyone had any problems loading a serial-ata drive from fstab?
[05:27] <difeta> how can i setup a pdf printer?
[05:27] <mdJake> fluideye, very good - espec the HOWTOs part of forums
[05:28] <trygvebw> franklin50, i'm trying to make my Apache server work... :)
[05:28] <IcemanV9> mdJake: finally found something that ACTUALLY work "out of the box" so my wife can use it just like xp
[05:28] <mdJake> IcemanV9, I use(d) a Hungarian distro before
[05:28] <trygvebw> I was instructed to set up port-forwarding since i have a router.
[05:28] <mdJake> IcemanV9, but loved Ubuntu the second day
[05:29] <IcemanV9> mdJake: now, she enjoys it as long as everything works .. like all plugins in firefox
[05:29] <mdJake> IcemanV9, when I managed to set up Beagle for example
[05:29] <mdJake> IcemanV9, or DC++ under Wine
[05:29] <Hackmo> Hey, can anyone help me set up my sagem usb 800 E2T?
[05:29] <IcemanV9> mdJake: i have been meaning to test Wine thingie yet
[05:29] <mdJake> IcemanV9, what plugins do you have under Firefox?
[05:30] <IcemanV9> mdJake: all of them - java, adobe reader, realplayer, mplayer & flash
[05:30] <mdJake> IcemanV9, so
[05:30] <mdJake> IcemanV9, java
[05:30] <mdJake> IcemanV9, which way you set it up?
[05:30] <IcemanV9> mdJake: my wife loves Yahoo! games (it runs on java)
[05:31] <mdJake> IcemanV9, from an Ubuntu package?
[05:31] <IcemanV9> mdJake: installed java according to ubuntuguide.org; it works as it should be
[05:32] <Fator_Dee> IIRC you can get java from backports
[05:32] <IcemanV9> mdJake: i did not have to fiddle with it; thanks goodness
[05:32] <mdJake> Fator_Dee, but then I will get the Firefox plugin?
[05:33] <Fator_Dee> ummm, dunno :-/
[05:33] <karljp> trygvebw, did you work out the virtual server settings?
[05:33] <mdJake> anybody using OO.o 2.0 here?
[05:33] <zoddan> cant get airsnort to work :(
[05:33] <Fator_Dee> essentially it's the same package that's been packaged to .deb, so I'd say yes
[05:33] <trygvebw> karljp, franklin50 is helping me :)
[05:34] <karljp> public port 80, private port 80, lan ip the 192.168.* address you have locally.
[05:34] <trygvebw> mdJake, yeah
[05:34] <IcemanV9> mdJake: it doesn't work?
[05:34] <karljp> ok, cool :)
[05:34] <mdJake> I haven't exprienced with it
[05:34] <mdJake> Is it stable enough?
[05:34] <mdJake> worths trying?
[05:34] <IcemanV9> mdJake: OO.o 2.0 works just fine on my box
[05:35] <nosilver4u> ok, somehow breezy killed my sound
[05:35] <nosilver4u> i'm getting a: Warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: load_state:1267: No soundcards found...'
[05:35] <IcemanV9> mdJake: i have written a few letters already, updated my resume - so yeah, it works
[05:35] <nosilver4u> any ideas?
[05:36] <mdJake> what I like in Ubuntu that it is from Debian still the programs so fresh
[05:36] <karljp> sif
[05:36] <mdJake> a reak Desktop distro
[05:36] <karljp> programs are only fresh if get into breezy
[05:36] <mdJake> real
[05:36] <karljp> no updates in hoary
[05:36] <mdJake> but heard Breezy is too early for now
[05:37] <karljp> yeah
[05:37] <karljp> exatly
[05:37] <trygvebw> I'm using Breezy ATM.
[05:37] <karljp> ubuntu is just a much more useful woody
[05:37] <IcemanV9> mdJake: agreed; say no more :)
[05:37] <ernstp> does sudo work after you
[05:37] <trygvebw> It was broken till some weeks ago, but it's mostly fixed now
[05:37] <karljp> all the benefits of testing, with less of the downsides, and without being as "stable" as woody
[05:37] <ernstp> 've written sudo -s for you guys?
[05:37] <Hackmo> trygvebw: what's breezy like?
[05:37] <karljp> just like hoary, only with new libs :)
[05:37] <trygvebw> Hackmo, nice, lots of updates, but unstable :)
[05:38] <mdJake> can anybody tell me: am I able to "ghost" a Hoary install with tar?
[05:38] <mdJake> I mean
[05:38] <mdJake> can I setup a Hoary for my needs
[05:38] <mdJake> then simply tar it
[05:38] <ernstp> could someone post the interesting stuff from their sudoers file?
[05:38] <mdJake> and bring it to a different computer too?
[05:38] <trygvebw> You don't ghost it, you dd it.
[05:38] <mdJake> I said "ghost"
[05:38] <trygvebw> dd if=/dev/sourceHD of=/file
[05:38] <mdJake> means tar -cvjf ...
[05:38] <trygvebw> And when you want to bring it back:
[05:39] <trygvebw> dd if=/file of=/dev/toHD
[05:39] <sorsis_> is there way to get shoutcast streams work on linux?
[05:39] <sorsis_> i mean in rhythmbox
[05:39] <petemc> sorsis_: xmms or beep play them ok
[05:39] <ernstp> ping
[05:39] <mdJake> so can it be done either with dd or tarM
[05:39] <mdJake> ?
[05:39] <trygvebw> dd is best.
[05:39] <mindmedic> sorsis_, have you checked the RADIO in the left bar
[05:39] <mdJake> sorsis_, I think streamtuner
[05:39] <mdJake> trygvebw, not when you have a different sized partition
[05:40] <trygvebw> mdJake, course... :)
[05:40] <trygvebw> forgot that ;)
[05:40] <IcemanV9> size of disk space doesn't matter if you used dd?
[05:40] <mdJake> IcemanV9, I think it matters
[05:40] <IcemanV9> nevermind .. mdJake just mentioned it
[05:40] <ernstp> really, could someone just look in their /etc/sudoers file really quickly for me?
[05:41] <trygvebw> ernstp, sure
[05:41] <mdJake> I think after dd/tar I do a dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:41] <IcemanV9> i'd love to try that .. i want the same setup on this box to another box with a smaller disk
[05:41] <ernstp> trygvebw, thanks!
[05:41] <mdJake> and Hoary is running on the other machine?
[05:41] <sorsis_> mindmedic: yes. but there is only 2 radios. and if i put link to shoutcast radio from web to it, it doesn't understand it. i think there should be filename.mp3 or something at end but all shoutcast links go like this http://net.radio:666/
[05:41] <trygvebw> ernstp, for what? or should i just copy it?
[05:41] <mdJake> IcemanV9, I suggest taring the whole /
[05:42] <mdJake> then untar on the other (same filesystem) partition
[05:42] <sorsis_> mindmedic: would there be more radios if would install ubuntu and update everything?
[05:42] <mdJake> IcemanV9, after reinstall Grub
[05:42] <ih8evil> How do I go about installing libgdk-pixbuf2 and libssl0.9.6 ?
[05:43] <resiak> Anyone feel like running `dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1`, please?
[05:43] <IcemanV9> mdJake: duly noted; will try that after lunch
[05:43] <trygvebw> sudo apt-get install PACKAGES
[05:43] <timmow> is it possible to have my cardbus network card load the ndiswrapper module on insertion?  I am looking at hotplug, but don't really know where to start
[05:43] <mdJake> I'm asking about the transferability of Hoary because I heard recently that not every kernel is capable of it
[05:43] <karljp> ii  libc6          2.3.2.ds1-20ub GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone
[05:43] <mindmedic> sorsis_, menu "musik" add radio something
[05:43] <mdJake> some kernels have the root partition burned inside them
[05:43] <mdJake> I hope Hoary's isn't
[05:43] <mindmedic> sorsis_, and you must have mp3 support
[05:43] <karljp> timow: try apt-gettting laptop-net
[05:44] <Amaranth> ajmitch_: PING?
[05:44] <mdJake> IcemanV9, would you like to hear how do I do it (with another distro but will try with Hoary too)
[05:44] <resiak> karljp: Ta.
[05:44] <ajmitch_> Amaranth: yes?
[05:44] <IcemanV9> mdJake: i will find out soon enough; another box can be rebuild many times .. not this box
[05:44] <Amaranth> ajmitch_: oh, you are here. can you reop me?
[05:44] <timmow> thanks
[05:45] <sorsis_> mindmedic: thanks
[05:45] <sorsis_> mdJake: thanks
[05:45] <difeta> I've setup a pdf printer, but every time I  try to print to it the printer says that it is off and nothing gets done. Any ideas?
[05:45] <mdJake> sorsis_, streamtuner is cool, yeah?
[05:45] <sorsis_> mdJake: seems like
[05:45] <Jormundgand> How do I get my USB headphones working? They're set to use ALSA which fails to work, and I want them to use OSS which does.
[05:46] <mdJake> sorsis_, check out streamripper too
[05:46] <mdJake> sorsis_, can record radios
[05:46] <mdJake> sorsis_, to mp3s
[05:46] <sorsis_> mdJake: ok. i'll do that
[05:47] <mdJake> trygvebw, you said you're using the Breezy?
[05:47] <trygvebw> mdJake, yes
[05:47] <mdJake> trygvebw, and have you got the Beagle/Best
[05:47] <trygvebw> mdJake, yeah
[05:47] <njoka> Da Breezy
[05:47] <trygvebw> Beagle is working nicely
[05:47] <Amaranth> ajmitch_: ?
[05:47] <mdJake> trygvebw, is it working for you?
[05:47] <Amaranth> oh
[05:47] <trygvebw> mdJake, yeah
[05:47] <Amaranth> ajmitch_: thanks
[05:47] <trygvebw> mdJake, it works nicely :)
[05:48] <mdJake> trygvebw, I tried it on Hoary
[05:48] <IcemanV9> Beagle? what is it?
[05:48] <mdJake> trygvebw, but my fs was reiser
[05:48] <trygvebw> My FS is reiser, too.
[05:48] <mdJake> IcemanV9, desktop search tool (similar to MacOSX stuff)
[05:48] <ajmitch_> Amaranth: no problems, I'm off to sleep now (hopefully)
[05:49] <yonil> is there a program that lets you edit text but is good for describing code ? like, one that can put code inside boxes so its organized, and maybe even color it ..
[05:49] <Amaranth> ajmitch_: ok, good night
[05:49] <mdJake> trygvebw, the HOWTO says
[05:49] <mdJake> trygvebw, I should mount my /home with user_xattrs option
[05:49] <trygvebw> yes?
[05:49] <mdJake> trygvebw, I did that but Beagle didn't find anything
[05:49] <trygvebw> hm....
[05:49] <trygvebw> Wait, i'll test
[05:50] <mdJake> trygvebw, I started the beagled BTW
[05:50] <trygvebw> Let it run for some moments. It needs to index your home dir first.
[05:50] <ernstp> yeah, beagled in brezzy is nice!
[05:50] <franklin50> How long does Beagle take to do its first index?
[05:50] <ernstp> "a while" :-)
[05:50] <trygvebw> Nah, you're right, in fact... It doesn't work :(
[05:51] <franklin50> lol
[05:51] <trygvebw> It finds web places, but not files :/
[05:51] <ernstp> make sure you install all dependencies, like evolution-cil and gsf-cil
[05:51] <franklin50> Is it fairly quick after its first index? (Live-updating?)
[05:51] <trygvebw> franklin50, yeah
[05:51] <trygvebw> ernstp, course
[05:51] <ernstp> trygvebw, works here
[05:51] <mdJake> ernstp, where can I find info about Breezy/Hoary+Beagle?
[05:51] <ernstp> upgraded to 2.6.12 so I have /dev/inotify
[05:51] <trygvebw> ernstp, well, you're running ext3?
[05:52] <ernstp> trygvebw, yes
[05:52] <trygvebw> ah
[05:52] <trygvebw> I'm running ReiserFS
[05:52] <mdJake> trygvebw, I thougth about that
[05:52] <ernstp> /dev/sda10      /home           ext3    noatime,user_xattr         0       2
[05:52] <trygvebw> hm
[05:52] <mdJake> trygvebw, check your .reiserfs_priv directory
[05:52] <trygvebw> ok, i'll check :)
[05:52] <dead^^> hi. does anyone here play guitar, or could strait up tell me how to install DGuitar?
[05:52] <ernstp> doesn't resierfs have extended attributes?
[05:53] <dead^^> I have problems with it
[05:53] <mdJake> trygvebw, maybe there will be info about xattr there
[05:53] <trygvebw> ok
[05:53] <ernstp> mdJake, checked the wiki?
[05:53] <franklin50> dead^^: I play, but I've never heard of DGuitar - what is it?
[05:53] <mdJake> ernstp, yes and set it up for Hoary
[05:53] <mdJake> ernstp, but on a reiserfs
[05:53] <mdJake> ernstp, now I have ext3
[05:54] <mdJake> ernstp, but haven't tried it yet
[05:54] <ernstp> mdJake, tried what?
[05:54] <ernstp> mdJake, ok, so you formatted and you're going to reinstall?
[05:54] <mdJake> ernstp, Beagle (I had to reinstall - couldn't switch my root fs otherwise)
[05:54] <Geezer041> Good morning. Would anybody be able to help me install Americas Army from a .run?
[05:54] <dead^^> fanklin50, it's Guitar Pro like program wich shows tab and notes and plays them same time on midiplayer. it's hard to explain =P
[05:54] <trygvebw> Geezer041, sure :)
[05:54] <Geezer041> tk
[05:55] <[a-z] {2}> hi
[05:55] <dead^^> fanklin50, are familiar with the Guitar Pro on Windows?
[05:55] <mdJake> ernstp, is Beagle cool BTW
[05:55] <ernstp> mdJake, cool indeed!
[05:55] <consumer> I'm wondering where I would find the logs from either firestarter or iptables for intrusion attempts ?
[05:55] <mdJake> ernstp, I can't imagine it how it works
[05:55] <consumer> or just connection attempts would be good
[05:55] <mdJake> ernstp, how can it do things
[05:55] <christie-kun> where can i find the list of commands ubuntu goes through when starting up?
[05:55] <ernstp> wish it would do a normal google search also..?
[05:56] <dead^^> fanklin50, fcuk, i meant: "are YOU familiar..."
[05:56] <ernstp> christie-kun, /etc/init.d/ and /etc/rc*.d/
[05:56] <ernstp> mdJake, do what things?
[05:56] <mdJake> ernstp, I checked the videos about Beagle
[05:57] <mdJake> ernstp, I had to see it
[05:57] <ernstp> mdJake, yeah, and it works just like that :-)
[05:57] <mdJake> ernstp, tomorrow I'll give it a try
[05:57] <ernstp> mdJake, gl!
[05:57] <timmow> I am confused.  I want to load/unload the driver for my wlan card when it is inserted removed.  Do I need to do that throught the networking system or hotplug?
[05:57] <ernstp> mdJake, remember to install libdbus-cil
[05:58] <dead^^> but, my original question was: does anyone here know how to install DGuitar?
[05:58] <ernstp> mdJake, the deb doesn't depend on it but beagle needs it. should go file a bug...
[05:58] <christie-kun> what order does it go through those scripts?
[05:58] <mdJake> I used this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31518
[05:59] <mdJake> ernstp, I used this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31518
[05:59] <dockane> i have got problems acitivating dma mode for my ide drive : http://pastebin.com/282699
[05:59] <dockane> is that a chipset problem ?
[05:59] <mdJake> ernstp, libdbus-cil ?
[05:59] <mdJake> ernstp, I know about dbus
[06:00] <mdJake> ernstp, but what is cil?
[06:00] <rj_> root@sc01:~ # ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:00] <rj_> ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: No such process
[06:00] <rj_> root@sc01:~ #
[06:00] <rj_> why would that happen?
[06:00] <rj_> theres no iptables
[06:00] <ernstp> mdJake, ah, there's .deb packages for everything in breezy now!
[06:01] <ernstp> mdJake, and dbus-cil is just the Mono/C# bindings for dbus
[06:01] <mdJake> rj_, r u sure you want to connect as root?
[06:01] <rj_> mdJake: yes, thats not the issue.
[06:01] <dead^^> erm, hi all. does anyone here know how to install DGuitar? i have problems with it and the readme is useless =(
[06:01] <rj_> mdJake: i'am a experienced admin - it's ok ;)
[06:02] <mdJake> ernstp, it's not on the Wiki Page
[06:02] <ernstp> rj_, no such process... wierd.
[06:02] <ernstp> mdJake, they uploaded it like yesterday
[06:02] <mdJake> rj_, so not an sshd_config issue :)
[06:02] <rj_> ernstp: exactly -- thats crazy..
[06:02] <rj_> mdJake: nope.
[06:02] <ernstp> mdJake, the wiki is a wiki, add it :-P
[06:02] <christie-kun> ernstp: what order does it go through those startup scripts?
[06:02] <rj_> ernstp
[06:03] <rj_> root@sc01:/etc # ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:03] <rj_> connect: No such process
[06:03] <mdJake> rJ_, and sshd is running I bet
[06:03] <rj_> it's weirder..
[06:03] <ernstp> christie-kun, the scripts are in /etc/init.d
[06:03] <rj_> mdJake: yep -- it seems more ip related somehow.
[06:03] <ernstp> christie-kun, the order is /etc/rc1-5 and then by the number in there
[06:04] <christie-kun> ernstp: does it execute the ones in inti.d in alphabetical order?
[06:04] <mdJake> rj_, is this a remote server?
[06:04] <rj_> mdJake: no - local.
[06:04] <sig> rj_: does that local machine have ssh server installed?
[06:04] <ernstp> christie-kun, no, that's just where the scrips are. if they're executed and in what order is descided by the symlinks in /etc/rc1-5.d folders
[06:05] <sig> the one your trying to ssh into
[06:05] <rj_> sig_ they both have ssh server installed
[06:05] <sig> but are they running?
[06:05] <rj_> sig: also look it's more than ssh i can't ping without getting the same error
[06:05] <rj_> sig: yes
[06:05] <rj_> root@sc01:/etc # ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:05] <rj_> connect: No such process
[06:05] <mdJake> rj_, ps aux|grep sshd
[06:05] <rj_> same connect error
[06:05] <ernstp> rj_, telnet .... 22 ?
[06:05] <rj_> root@sc01:/etc # ps aux|grep sshd
[06:05] <rj_> root     13472  0.0  0.0   3472  1436 ?        Ss   May07   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[06:06] <rj_> root@sc01:/etc # telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 22
[06:06] <rj_> Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[06:06] <rj_> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No such process
[06:06] <sig> rj_: did you follow the howto @ http://ubuntuguide.org ?
[06:06] <sig> why are you in /etc?
[06:06] <sig> just curious
[06:06] <rj_> sig: i was setting up nfs :)
[06:06] <ernstp> rj_, right, something is really broken! connect() doesn't work on you rsystem? but xchat is?
[06:06] <consumer> has anyone here set up snort on their PPP interface?
[06:06] <rj_> no -- im not ircing on the same machine
[06:07] <ernstp> rj_, ah.
[06:07] <rj_> im on my workstation right atm.
[06:07] <ernstp> rj_, does elinks work?
[06:07] <rj_> ernstp: i'd hafta install it.
[06:07] <rj_> let me reboot it and see if that fixes it.
[06:07] <ernstp> rj_, go ahead :-P
[06:07] <rj_> like windows :(
[06:07] <mdJake> windows, whats that? :)
[06:08] <rj_> glass boxes in your house
[06:08] <dead^^> :)
[06:08] <ernstp> rj_, only, rebooting never fixes anything on linux. but you can't stop trying
[06:08] <mindspin> lets the sunshine in
[06:08] <mdJake> without curtains
[06:08] <rj_> ernstp: no, i've had it fix things.. like kernel panics
[06:08] <rj_> :)
[06:09] <Scorpinf> i have a problem, i cant delete 3 item's in the trashcan, it complains about my rights. how can i solve this?
[06:09] <rj_> Scorpinf: restore them
[06:10] <ernstp> rj_, would be cool if you could kexec reboot, so the system thought it rebooted but the power never went off...
[06:10] <mdJake> we have a small network here at home and if I create a samba share on one of the PCs will it appear in Hoary in Places/Network or I need to mount it before?
[06:10] <mindmedic> Scorpinf, empty your .Trash/ folder as root.
[06:10] <rj_> hehe
[06:10] <ernstp> Scorpinf, sudo rm -r .Trash/*
[06:10] <Scorpinf> ok
[06:10] <ernstp> mindmedic, can't really do that..?
[06:12] <mindspin> @mdJake on kubuntu it appears in the filemanager
[06:13] <mindspin> as share
[06:14] <dabaSlon> hey, is noone talking, or am I offlilne?
[06:14] <dabaSlon> ko
[06:14] <dabaSlon> ok
[06:15] <nosilver4u> no one is talking
[06:15] <nosilver4u> crap, i just talked
[06:16] <mindspin> I talk with my computer...
[06:16] <rapha_> Hi all!
[06:16] <mindspin> or better to my computer
[06:16] <rj_> ernstp: doing a reboot worked
[06:16] <rj_> ernstp: :/
[06:16] <Rubin> whats the command to force a fsck at the next boot?
[06:17] <rapha_> I just put my SanDisk from my digital camera into the card reader, but Ubuntu shows only Junk on it. The Camera correctly sees the pictures still though...
[06:17] <Rubin> rapha_: junk?
[06:18] <rapha_> Rubin: Wierd stuff.... one file for example is named ".,"
[06:18] <ih8evil> I'm new to Linux. Is there any way for me to change each individual background image for the four workspaces, or do they all need to be the same?
[06:18] <Rubin> huh
[06:18] <Rubin> doens the card show up normally in windows?
[06:18] <ernstp> rj_, eh... well... nice!
[06:19] <ih8evil> whoa.
[06:19] <rj_> net split
[06:19] <rj_> :/
[06:20] <ih8evil> Is there any way for me to change each individual background image for the four workspaces, or do they all need to be the same?
[06:20] <dabaSlon> good question:)
[06:21] <ih8evil> :)
[06:21] <patrickxb> ih8evil:  you're using metacity for your window manager?
[06:21] <pelle> anyone got initng working on ubuntu?
[06:22] <ih8evil> patrickxb, Um, I'm not sure. I'm new to Linux
[06:22] <mdJake> I've added the Backports repo (I needed some packs from there - w32codecs) and now update manager wants to update my gimp and my gaim - which I wouldn't like to
[06:22] <trygvebw> ih8evil, then you're using Metacity :)
[06:22] <Fator_Dee> http://wallpapoz.sourceforge.net/ but don't know how this works, haven't used it
[06:22] <mdJake> can I tell somehow not to upgrade from Backports?
[06:22] <ih8evil> trygvebw, heh, ok, thank you
[06:22] <pelle> anyone got Luminocity on ubuntu?
[06:22] <trygvebw> pelle, yes
[06:22] <mdJake> beside # it in my sources list?
[06:22] <ih8evil> patrickxb, I guss I am.
[06:22] <trygvebw> pelle, it's nice :)
[06:22] <dabaSlon> mdJake: well...
[06:23] <ih8evil> *guess
[06:23] <pelle> trygvebw, luminocity?
[06:23] <dabaSlon> taht would be a good place...
[06:23] <trygvebw> pelle, yeah
[06:23] <dabaSlon> that is what I am gonna do after mono finishes installing now..
[06:23] <pelle> trygvebw, It takes a lot of fiddling around to get it to work, right?
[06:23] <Fator_Dee> mdJake: theres a button on the down left corner, from there press status and then marked changes, and then you can just click them of not to be updated
[06:23] <dabaSlon> thanks for the link:)
[06:23] <trygvebw> pelle, not a lot really
[06:24] <trygvebw> the instructions are very good
[06:24] <Fator_Dee> mdJake: sorry, it was in custom -> marked changes
[06:24] <pelle> are there packages somewhere? .deb, .tar.gz?
[06:24] <trygvebw> pelle, nope
[06:24] <trygvebw> Not afaik, at least
[06:24] <pelle> trygvebw, so - is it useable? does it crash alot?
[06:24] <patrickxb> ih8evil:  don't think it's possible... (http://lwn.net/Articles/114983/)
[06:24] <trygvebw> pelle, it's not slow, it doesn't crash a lot
[06:24] <mdJake> Fator_Dee, but it's the same as # :)
[06:25] <Fator_Dee> mdJake: but that's only if you update by synaptic though, which seems to not answer your question :-\
[06:25] <Fator_Dee> well, it's not quite
[06:25] <trygvebw> _BUT_ it runs in a window only.
[06:25] <pelle> trygvebw, what g.card are you using?
[06:25] <mdJake> Fator_Dee, I removed Backports then
[06:25] <trygvebw> pelle, ATI Radeon X300
[06:26] <mdJake> Fator_Dee, thought there may be an option to simply discard them
[06:26] <pelle> trygvebw, thats sort of top-of-the-line, right?
[06:26] <Fator_Dee> but it's not a biggie to disable/enable the backports repo when you need something from there
[06:26] <trygvebw> pelle, nope, it's a very cheap card :)
[06:26] <trygvebw> It's the cheapest ATI PCIE card.
[06:26] <mdJake> Fator_Dee, yes, true - but I'm curious you know :)
[06:27] <pelle> trygvebw, well, I'm using an integrated S3 virge or something. at least it does 2d ;)
[06:27] <trygvebw> ah
[06:27] <Geezer041> Would anybody be able to help me sort out my graphics?
[06:27] <trygvebw> It should work, but *very* slow
[06:27] <K_Dallas> so it is distribution time :) got my CDs today and going to send them out, people are really liking ubuntu
[06:28] <pelle> trygvebw, Do you know what their dev-plan is? Are they going for a usable / easy to install version in the near future?
[06:28] <stormy73034> ?
[06:28] <trygvebw> pelle, no, they are going to merge with the main Metacity window manager.
[06:28] <Flav> the "whiptail" package needs to update its description (it was copied from the "dialog" package and never changed) - how can i tell who the package maintainer is?
[06:28] <Flav> ah, nevermind
[06:28] <pelle> trygvebw, ok. see yah
[06:29] <patrickxb> ih8evil:  have you seen this?  http://wallpapoz.sourceforge.net/
[06:30] <dr_willis> anyone off hand know what the word   "Hemsida" means? filling out a form on a german (i think) site. :P and it wants that info.
[06:30] <Seveas> dr_willis, www.freetranslation.com :)
[06:30] <dr_willis> I figured out the address/email/account/password blanks. :P
[06:30] <dr_willis> Seveas,  bablefish ddent even know what it ment.
[06:30] <mdJake> GNOME question: by mounting my hds with the mount-option user I managed to show them up in computer:/// But can I control how Gnome name them: I don't like the defaults (e.g. 4 GB data storage, 20GB data storage)
[06:30] <dr_willis> it is german?
[06:31] <Seveas> mdJake, gnome doesn't name them...
[06:31] <mdJake> Seveas, then hal name them?
[06:31] <dr_willis> Seveas,  heh - it says Hemsida  translated to english is --> Hemsida
[06:32] <Seveas> mdJake, they ar fat or ntfs disks right?
[06:32] <rapha_> Rubin: I don't have Windows. It worked normally just yesterday. Could try one of the Windows machines at work though...
[06:32] <mdJake> Seveas, fat32, ntfs, ext3
[06:32] <mdJake> Seveas, and reiserfs - any type
[06:33] <Seveas> well, fat32 and ntfs have volume labels
[06:33] <mdJake> Seveas, all of them named after the size
[06:33] <Seveas> dunno about the others
[06:33] <Seveas> but why don;t you simply integrate them in your filesystem?
[06:33] <mdJake> Seveas, I know that and my every volume has labels
[06:33] <IcemanV9> could not see the picture (movie (dvd) is running on the another box) thru vnc -- all i see is blue screen
[06:33] <mdJake> even reiser and ext3
[06:34] <mdJake> IcemanV9, why use vnc? use X
[06:34] <mdJake> Seveas, I mounted them under /mnt
[06:34] <mdJake> Seveas, so I see them there
[06:35] <mdJake> Seveas, but the computer:/// Gnome place is so comfortable and user friendly
[06:35] <Seveas> ah
[06:35] <IcemanV9> mdJake: like display:1 or ??
[06:35] <Seveas> i find that windows-ish
[06:35] <mdJake> IcemanV9, yes remote-X
[06:36] <mdJake> Seveas, I have friends who use Linux
[06:36] <IcemanV9> mdJake: is there a howto? never done it before
[06:36] <mdJake> IcemanV9, sudo gdmconfig on the "server" computer
[06:37] <mdJake> IcemanV9, Security tab
[06:38] <evilmegaman> how do I change the opengl vendor string thing when I do fglrx info? because it should say ATI I think
[06:38] <mdJake> IcemanV9, remove pipe near "disable TCP for remote X connection"
[06:38] <mdJake> IcemanV9, (I have localized Ubuntu, but will be sg like that)
[06:38] <agent> anyone know of a how-to on how to create deb files (specific to Ubuntu if there is a difference)?
[06:38] <mdJake> IcemanV9, then XDCMP tab
[06:39] <mdJake> IcemanV9, enable XDMCP
[06:39] <ggross> agent : dont know but i want to know too !
[06:39] <mdJake> IcemanV9, got it?
[06:39] <Barnabas> hello
[06:39] <Barnabas> Im stuck without sound... :((
[06:39] <Barnabas> can anyone help?
[06:39] <IcemanV9> mdJake: gotcha .. working on it - thks
[06:39] <Funraiser> Barnabas, how did it happen?
[06:40] <Barnabas> sound never worked
[06:40] <agent> ggross, well, if not then i guess one can learn how to create an rpm then convert rpm to deb... although that seems like asking for trouble :D
[06:40] <mdJake> IcemanV9, tell me when ready
[06:40] <Barnabas> I followed the guides regarding alsa, but no joy
[06:40] <ggross> agent : i think create a real deb is better
[06:40] <Barnabas> Alsa is installed, however I get no sound
[06:40] <Funraiser> Barnabas, check http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[06:41] <agent> ggross, of course!
[06:41] <Barnabas> been there, done that
[06:41] <Funraiser> ok
[06:41] <IcemanV9> mdJake: ready, dude
[06:41] <Barnabas> still, no sound
[06:41] <mdJake> IcemanV9, go to the "client" computer
[06:41] <Funraiser> try applications/sound and video/volume control
[06:41] <mdJake> IcemanV9,  and the command is:
[06:41] <agent> ggross, i founda few how-to's on creating specific deb's... reading them will let you know :)
[06:42] <Barnabas> all is up and unmuted
[06:42] <mdJake> X -query <ipoftheserver> :1
[06:42] <Funraiser> try system/preferences/sound
[06:42] <Barnabas> sound is enabled
[06:42] <mdJake> IcemanV9, or X :1 -query <ipoftheserver>
[06:43] <ghetek> I have an apple PowerPC 5500/225 and It does not boot into the Ubuntu install CD when i hold down "C" at boot up, it just goes into the hard drive as normally.
[06:43] <IcemanV9> mdJake: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[06:43] <mdJake> IcemanV9, wait a minute I check it
[06:43] <Funraiser> Barnabas, did u try to uncheck enable sound server startup?
[06:43] <Barnabas> em...
[06:43] <Barnabas> nope
[06:43] <mdJake> IcemanV9, (it works on localhost also)
[06:43] <syltty> exit
[06:43] <Barnabas> Funraiser, should I restart
[06:44] <Barnabas> ?
[06:44] <Funraiser> no
[06:44] <mdJake> IcemanV9, yes!
[06:44] <Barnabas> ok... then what?
[06:44] <mdJake> IcemanV9, sudo X :1 -query <ip>
[06:44] <Funraiser> then launch a mediaplayer
[06:44] <sorsis_> what is default password for root on 5.04 livecd?
[06:45] <Barnabas> xmms good?
[06:45] <ghetek> there is none
[06:45] <ghetek> soris
[06:45] <Funraiser> do u have xine?
[06:45] <sorsis_> ok
[06:45] <ghetek> open konsole
[06:45] <trygvebw> BMP is better :)
[06:45] <sorsis_> thanks
[06:45] <ghetek> and type in sudo passwd
[06:45] <Barnabas> nope
[06:45] <ghetek> then put one in
[06:45] <Funraiser> try xmms
[06:45] <Barnabas> no sound :(
[06:45] <sorsis_> ghetek: so there was no root user ?
[06:45] <sorsis_> ghetek: only ubuntu?
[06:45] <Funraiser> since u installed hoary u never had sound?
[06:46] <Barnabas> yes
[06:46] <Funraiser> Barnabas, did u have warty before?
[06:46] <Barnabas> nope
[06:46] <Barnabas> in a nood
[06:46] <ghetek> soris, there is no root password on the live cd
[06:46] <Barnabas> oops
[06:46] <Barnabas> noob
[06:46] <Funraiser> Barnabas, had windows?
[06:46] <Barnabas> yep
[06:46] <mdJake> IcemanV9, Success?
[06:46] <Funraiser> still have?
[06:46] <Barnabas> yes
[06:46] <Barnabas> (sound works there)
[06:46] <Funraiser> does it work...
[06:46] <Funraiser> k
[06:46] <IcemanV9> mdJake: it works, just a mouse pointer and grey background
[06:47] <ghetek> I have an apple PowerPC 5500/225 and It does not boot into the Ubuntu install CD when i hold down "C" at boot up, it just goes into the hard drive as normally.
[06:47] <Funraiser> weird
[06:47] <Barnabas> yep!
[06:47] <mdJake> IcemanV9, move the mouse
[06:47] <mdJake> IcemanV9, (almost there)
[06:47] <IcemanV9> mdJake: is it possible to keep it in window mode instead of a fullscreen?
[06:47] <IcemanV9> mdJake: i could move the mouse .. np
[06:47] <mdJake> IcemanV9, then again
[06:47] <mdJake> IcemanV9, sudo gdmsetup
[06:48] <mdJake> IcemanV9, Security tab
[06:48] <mdJake> you allow TCP connections for remote X
[06:48] <mdJake> right?
[06:48] <IcemanV9> mdJake: yep
[06:48] <mdJake> then XDMCP tab
[06:49] <mdJake> Enable XDMCP
[06:49] <mdJake> got it?
[06:49] <Funraiser> Barnabas, anathema is someone who could help u on that, he's not here today, but watch for him
[06:49] <jackass> how do it install bchunk?
[06:49] <Barnabas> ok
[06:49] <IcemanV9> mdJake: it is enabled
[06:49] <Barnabas> be back later than
[06:49] <mdJake> IcemanV9, ok
[06:50] <mdJake> IcemanV9, then switch to vt1 (ctrl alt f1)
[06:50] <mdJake> IcemanV9, sudo X :1 -query localhost (for testing)
[06:50] <mdJake> IcemanV9, you should see a gdm login screen by now
[06:51] <concept10> interesting: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BreezyGoals
[06:52] <slept> I want to create a (some) universe,multiverse,restricted DVD-Image(s) which is apt-searchable
[06:53] <mdJake> slept, can be done
[06:53] <IcemanV9> mdJake: all i see is a blue screen
[06:53] <andre> hi
[06:54] <Mahl> Hey im off to a friend of mine but before I go...Were gonna set up a network but hes running windows XP....How do I do that?
[06:54] <mdJake> slept you should wget us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool
[06:54] <IcemanV9> mdJake: have tried f2, f3, f4 as well
[06:55] <mdJake> slept, *all.deb and *i386.deb
[06:55] <andre> i've just got ubuntu installed, but i don't know how to get root access... in the faq they say that the root pass isn't set wihin the installation process.
[06:55] <jackass> how do i install bchunk!?!?!?
[06:55] <andre> can somebody help me out?
[06:55] <mdJake> IcemanV9, u use gdm and gnome yeah?
[06:55] <slept> mdJake, will apt-cdrom do the rest ?
[06:55] <mdJake> slept, not yet
[06:56] <andre> and even if the password was set in the installation, there was only one password i set and it's not that one..
[06:56] <Mahl> Hey im off to a friend of mine but before I go...Were gonna set up a network but hes running windows XP....How do I do that? I just installed Samba...Now what do I do?
[06:56] <mdJake> slept, you'll need dists/hoary/multiverse/* etc
[06:56] <dr_willis> andre,  you use 'sudo' and the users password.
[06:56] <slept> mdJake, but there should be a way to create an index
[06:56] <Mahl> Nevermind
[06:56] <Mahl> figured it out
[06:56] <Mahl> :P
[06:56] <dr_willis> andre,  you do NOT login as 'root'
[06:57] <mdJake> slept, dists/hoary/*/* has the needed Release,Packages,Packages.gz files
[06:57] <andre> doh... tnx dr_willis :-)
[06:57] <darkaudit> grr... trying to pin mozilla-firefox to *not* install the backports version...
[06:57] <dr_willis> andre,  this is like a #1 faq on the ubuntu guides/faq's :P
[06:57] <mdJake> slept, very important to leave the dir structure as on the server
[06:57] <andre> dr_willis: i know, i just wanted to get root access to modify my fstab
[06:57] <mdJake> so a pool/*all.deb+*i386.deb
[06:57] <andre> thanks anyway
[06:58] <dr_willis> andre,  thats easially done. :P or ya can just enable the root password. and it will work like all the other disrtos out there . "sudo passwd" :P
[06:58] <andre> but i have to say that i'm linking ubuntu :-)
[06:58] <mdJake> and a dists/hoary/multiverse/ and dists/hoary/universe structure
[06:58] <dead^^> hi everyone. does anyone here know P2P programs like DC++ or oDC on Windows. Does Linux even have on that would support DC++ or oDC hublists?
[06:58] <andre> dr_willis: i used to word with gentoo, there you set your pass within the installation...
[06:58] <mdJake> slept, you'll need Packages and Release at least
[06:58] <andre> so there's no need for sudo, i didn't even have the sudo package installed :-P
[06:59] <mdJake> slept, for each of them
[06:59] <andre> but i've got no time for gentoo anymore...
[06:59] <andre> s/word/work btw ;D
[06:59] <dr_willis> andre,  sudo has other uses i imagine.
[06:59] <mdJake> slept then you can add that CD structured like I said
[06:59] <mdJake> slept, clear?
[06:59] <andre> yeah dr_willis :-)
[06:59] <dead^^> hi everyone. does anyone here know P2P programs to Linux, like DC++ or oDC on Windows. Does Linux even have one that would support DC++ or oDC hublists?
[06:59] <mdJake> IcemanV9, what is your system setup?
[07:00] <mdJake> IcemanV9, two computers?
[07:00] <syltty> sudo -s when u want to do something as a root and then exit when u are done
[07:00] <mdJake> IcemanV9, one must act like a "server"
[07:00] <mdJake> IcemanV9, other as a "client"
[07:00] <xiaogil> hi
[07:00] <IcemanV9> mdJake: it works - i have to modify the firewall to allow it. very slow box :)
[07:00] <slept> mdJake, thanks i'll have a try
[07:01] <xiaogil> are there text recognition from images programs on Linux ?
[07:01] <mdJake> slept, you should tell me how to do it if you'd like
[07:01] <dr_willis> xiaogil,  ive seen some mentioned.  but never used any.
[07:01] <mdJake> slept, just to be sure u understand before starting the huge download
[07:01] <IcemanV9> mdJake: it went fullscreen, so i couldn't see anything on my box except remote X
[07:01] <mdJake> IcemanV9, ctrl-alt-f7
[07:01] <dr_willis> xiaogil,  check freshmeat.net  - i seem to recall one called gnome-ocr or similer.
[07:02] <IcemanV9> mdJake: thanks for the detail
[07:02] <mdJake> IcemanV9, your own session
[07:02] <mdJake> IcemanV9, ctrl-alt-f8 the remote session
[07:02] <dr_willis> xiaogil,  apt-cache search ocr
[07:02] <IcemanV9> mdJake: is it possible to make it into a windowed mode?
[07:02] <mdJake> IcemanV9, nope it's the way of X
[07:03] <IcemanV9> mdJake: ah ok. f7 - own session & f8 for remote
[07:03] <mdJake> IcemanV9, the "server" should be a powerful machine
[07:03] <syltty> anyone willing to test out my video stream application on http://lintelkku.sourceforge.net ?
[07:03] <mdJake> IcemanV9, the "client" can be a 486DX!
[07:03] <xiaogil> dr_willis: i found gocr
[07:04] <mdJake> IcemanV9, check out tldp.org for details
[07:04] <IcemanV9> mdJake: haha. i know. it should be another way around, but the fast box is my primary one
[07:04] <jdims> could someone take a look at this and maybe offer some advice? http://phpfi.com/61361
[07:04] <slept> mdJake, wget things, get the .gz files  - have a look for the size and modify .gz files (fit the size ), burn  , apt-cdrom
[07:04] <IcemanV9> mdJake: other is just for experiment
[07:04] <mdJake> IcemanV9, tldp.org has a HOWTO (called X-terminal or sg)
[07:05] <xinud> llo people , i looking for a hardware compatibility list (mb vc ...) for ubuntu (debian)
[07:05] <mdJake> IcemanV9, I used "" because in X "server" is the client "client" is the server - very confusing at first
[07:05] <patrickxb> /quit
[07:06] <mdJake> slept, wget -r things (all.deb and i386.deb are enough) from archive/pool
[07:06] <agent> who was it that needed a deb creating how-to?
[07:06] <mdJake> slept, wget -r things from archive/dists
[07:06] <mdJake> slept, wait, you'd like DVDs yeah?
[07:06] <mdJake> slept then the 1st step is right
[07:07] <nullkill> has anyone messed with getting gmailfs to work on ubuntu?
[07:07] <mdJake> slept, but you should manually generate Packages.gz from the actual packages
[07:07] <ih8evil> Hey, does anybody know how to set a different background image for each of the four workspaces?
[07:07] <nullkill> its really easy on kde
[07:07] <Jormundgand> ih8evil: not for GNOME. I know KDE does it.
[07:07] <slept> mdJake, how do I create Packages.gz
[07:08] <IcemanV9> mdJake: cool. something new to learn today. :)
[07:08] <mdJake> slept, theres a command 1sec plz
[07:08] <mdJake> dpkg-scanpackages
[07:09] <mdJake> slept, problem is though
[07:09] <mdJake> us.archive.ubuntu.com stores all packages in pool/
[07:10] <mdJake> under a/ b/ c/ etc
[07:10] <mdJake> go have a look to get the idea
[07:10] <Andril> hello all
[07:10] <Andril> anyone get Opera 8 installed? please help
[07:11] <mdJake> slept, I mean all - for Hoary, Breezy? Warty
[07:11] <mdJake> slept, they are mixed
[07:11] <slept> mdJake, that sounds good so I can create customized cds only containing things I realy need , if I can do so I only have to solve dependencies
[07:11] <syltty> Andril: I have opera 8 installed. what is the problem ?
[07:11] <Andril> syltty, i am a semi-noob
[07:11] <mdJake> slept, but you have to figure out
[07:11] <Andril> syltty, can you help me install?
[07:12] <mdJake> slept, take an example:
[07:12] <syltty> Andril:ok
[07:12] <Andril> syltty, thanks - lead the way :)
[07:12] <syltty> Andril:If I remember correctly i just downloaded the debian sid package and installed it
[07:13] <Andril> syltty, they added a Ubuntu file also
[07:13] <mdJake> slept,  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/
[07:13] <cart> Hi ppl, kubuntu use the same deb repository from ubuntu, or is a diferent one?
[07:13] <syltty> Andril: oh. I'll check that out
[07:13] <Riddell> cart: same one
[07:13] <mdJake> slept, you see varios packages for firefox there
[07:14] <mdJake> slept, one is for Warty, other is for Hoary and there's one for Breezy
[07:14] <slept> mdJake,  can apt-get things
[07:14] <Andril> syltty, i have opera_8.0-20050415.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb
[07:14] <syltty> Andril: what was the problem with installing it ?
[07:14] <mdJake> slept, apt will know from the dists/../Packages files which package belongs to which release
[07:15] <cart> Riddell: :(, im hopping that kubuntu is in a diferent repository and have a package for knoda. Ubuntu doesn't have
[07:15] <mdJake> slept, this means you'll have to select the appropriate packages by hand from pool/
[07:15] <Andril> syltty, should I get the Debian/static or the plain Debian pack?
[07:16] <Andril> syltty, I am a noob not good at installing yet - sorry
[07:16] <syltty> Andril: I am just now trying to install the ubuntu package of opera. wait a sec
[07:16] <slept> mdJake, I want to create cds for a friend of mine maybe I can  just filter out the packages contained in main from /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:16] <Andril> syltty, cool
[07:17] <mdJake> slept, I see - a friend with no/slow internet
[07:17] <Riddell> cart: add it to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuSuggestedPackages
[07:17] <Riddell> and I'll try and find someone to make packages
[07:17] <syltty> Andril: open terminal and write sudo dpkg -i  opera_8.0-20050415.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb
[07:17] <syltty> that should do it
[07:18] <jdims> could someone take a look at this and maybe offer some advice? http://phpfi.com/61361
[07:18] <Andril> syltty, ok
[07:19] <slept> mdJake, or can he just copy all packages to his  system and dselect update
[07:19] <cart> Riddell: Ok, thanks! :P
[07:19] <Andril> syltty, done it
[07:20] <mdJake> slept, or dpkg -i *.deb
[07:20] <ih8evil> what's the command to extract?
[07:20] <mdJake> slept, that way you needn't have Packages
[07:20] <mdJake> slept, but watch out for dependecies
[07:20] <syltty> Andril: try to launch it by typing opera in terminal
[07:20] <mdJake> maybe slept, too complicated for a human being :)
[07:21] <slept> mdJake, thats the reason why i wanted to update
[07:21] <mdJake> slept, I once mirrored the whole Debian repository
[07:21] <Dethread> ahahaha, das topic ist ja geil
[07:22] <Dethread> erm, wrong channel
[07:22] <mdJake> slept, this is why I know something about it
[07:22] <Andril> syltty, it worked but an error was displayed about java being disabled
[07:22] <mdJake> slept, (i didn't have net connection by that time)
[07:22] <mdJake> slept, but I didn't use DVDs
[07:22] <mdJake> slept, I used a 20GB mobil rack HDD
[07:22] <slept> mdJake, for debian I used the jigdo images
[07:23] <mdJake> slept, the whole Debian repo (woody/sarge/sid) was 18 GB
[07:23] <mdJake> slept, without source packages of course
[07:23] <slept> mdJake, if you just need one arch and no source you can go with 4 dvds
[07:23] <agent> can someone tell me of a good way to test created deb files... just to make sure nothing breaks if the deb file is bad?
[07:24] <slept> or 2 I don't remember
[07:24] <mdJake> slept, I don't know jigdo
[07:25] <Andril> syltty, do you have a icon in the menu?
[07:25] <ih8evil> How do I install libqt3c102-mt, because I'm getting an error message: "opera depends on libqt3c102-mt; however:
[07:25] <ih8evil>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed."
[07:25] <Dogtix> evening, bit of a noob question about bridges - is there a stdandard config file for bridge setup, or does linux need an init script with brctl commands?
[07:25] <capashen> hi, does an french channel exist in this server please ?
[07:26] <goldfish> capashen: think so
[07:26] <goldfish> ubuntu-fr maybe
[07:26] <mdJake> IcemanV9, why you abadonned BSD?
[07:26] <JairunCaloth> how hard is wine to set up and configure for a n00b?
[07:26] <capashen> ok thx i didn't see that we are on freenode
[07:27] <slept> mdJake, its nice to use, I remember they have 2 dvd images you can download ( ubuntu has jigdo aswell ), and you get lot's of things
[07:27] <agent> capashen, you can always use the /list command to list all channels
[07:28] <capashen> ok thx ( i did /msg chanserv list but it didn't work.)
[07:28] <ih8evil> How do I install libqt3c102-mt, because I'm getting an error message: "opera depends on libqt3c102-mt; however: Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed."
[07:28] <syltty> Andril: I have the same java error. don't know yet how to fix it. also adding to the menu is mystery for me. better ask advice from someone more guru :D
[07:29] <Andril> syltty, thanks alot - you helped me this far - now all I need is a working serial - thanks again
[07:29] <UnreA|L> Hello, i have two OS: XP and Ubuntu, and i want reinstall XP, if I install XP, my grub was remove is true ?
[07:29] <syltty> Andril: no problem
[07:30] <agent> what is a good way to test created deb files... just to make sure nothing breaks if the deb file is bad?
[07:30] <IcemanV9> mdJake: i don't stop using bsd .. i just want to find something that i can install and use it immediately like my parents' box and friends' boxes
[07:30] <agent> Unfrgiven, yes, this is true.... XP is horrible like that...
[07:30] <K_Dallas> i cannot imagine what i am reading on ubuntu-fr ;) are you sure it is about linux? ;)
[07:31] <rykel> hi all!!
[07:31] <goldfish> LOL
[07:31] <IcemanV9> mdJake: so they can enjoy it ... hopefully, i can convince them not to use ms anymore
[07:31] <cart> UnreA|L: Yeap, XP installation remove grub from MBR
[07:31] <agent> UnreA|L, , yes, this is true....
[07:31] <agent> UnreA|L, there may be a way to install grub after XP kills it
[07:32] <agent> Unfrgiven, let me find you a tutorial
[07:32] <JairunCaloth> unreA|L I saw an artical on the wikipages for ubuntu that talks about that
[07:32] <rykel> I had a Ubuntu Warty machine, which I tried to upgrade to Hoary.
[07:32] <agent> UnreA|L,  let me find you a tutorial
[07:32] <UnreA|L> Yes i now when i reinstall XP, i will install GRUB for new
[07:32] <UnreA|L> How ?
[07:32] <agent> ^^
[07:32] <UnreA|L> agent ok
[07:32] <UnreA|L> ;)
[07:33] <rykel> What I did was change all "warty" references in Synaptic to "hoary" and then did a Smart Upgrade.    Suddenly, I received a "No Signal" for my CRT monitor.    After I hard rebooted, the mouse did not work.    Next, after a second hard reboot, the whole PC hangs at the Hotplug system. There was an earlier error message about "Buffer I/O Error at hdc...", but I do not think that is a big problem as the bootup continued.    Finally, after a thi
[07:33] <rykel> rd hard reboot, the PC will not even start up, and the PC bell will beep frequently. (sounds like a hard disk crash to me!)
[07:33] <goldfish> ugh
[07:33] <goldfish> not nice :/
[07:33] <rykel> Could you please advise me:
[07:33] <rykel> 1. What is the officially correct way to upgrade Warty to Hoary?
[07:33] <rykel> 2. What can I do to resurrect my corrupted system now without resorting to format-and-reinstall?
[07:34] <rykel> goldfish: thanks
[07:34] <goldfish> change all instances of warty to hoary in sources.list
[07:34] <IcemanV9> mdJake: also, bsd are best known for servers, not desktop
[07:34] <goldfish> and do a apt-get update && apt-get distro-upgrade
[07:34] <goldfish> or distupgrade
[07:34] <dataw0lf|w> dist-upgrade
[07:34] <goldfish> Someone correct me there, i think that's the wrong name.
[07:34] <goldfish> thanks
[07:34] <dataw0lf|w> indeed.
[07:35] <goldfish> And I have no idea about #2 I'm afraid rykel, no experience with anything like that I'm afraid :/
[07:35] <agent> UnreA|L, also, first thing you should do is backup your grub config file on a disk or print it out (its small) so you can recreate it... i know that you will need to boot into a livecd to fix your boot menu...
[07:35] <ih8evil> Does anyone know what I type in the terminal to install libqt3c102-mt?
[07:35] <rykel> yes, so ok, i did the right thing... since i changed all warty to hoary and then a Smart Upgrade (dist-upgrade)...
[07:36] <dataw0lf|w> rykel: if you have sensitive stuff on it, use a live cd to extract whatever relevant portions on the filesystem you need.
[07:36] <cart> Riddell: Sorry for my ignorance, but what is breezy?
[07:36] <dataw0lf|w> Ubuntu 5.10
[07:36] <rykel> data: ok, thanks... i presume a fresh install is the best option?
[07:36] <osity> anyone setup sw raid 1 on hoary?
[07:36] <cart> dataw0lf: Oh, ok! Thanks
[07:36] <UnreA|L> How i can do grub backup
[07:36] <mdJake> IcemanV9, you're the man - sorry I thought you abadonned BSD :)))
[07:37] <mdJake> IcemanV9, you will be here tomorrow I hope
[07:37] <UnreA|L> and how after XP install, with LIVECD i can reset GRUB ?
[07:37] <JairunCaloth> UnreA|L I found a tutorial, but it requires that you have a live cd
[07:37] <UnreA|L> i have live cd
[07:38] <UnreA|L> ;)
[07:38] <JairunCaloth> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:38] <dr_willis> Ive often booted with a live cd. chrooted over to the installed linux system and reran the grub installer proggy.
[07:38] <dr_willis> its not hard. :P just a few details to keep an eye on
[07:39] <UnreA|L> How it will do
[07:39] <UnreA|L> with commands
[07:39] <UnreA|L> can you say to me ?
[07:39] <dr_willis> well id say read that url that JairunCaloth  posted.
[07:40] <BoD_SWAT> when I want to use 2 monitors (not cloning) do I need xinerama? (mandatory?)
[07:40] <cart> Any chance to use breezy repository only to install knoda and it's kde deps will damage my Hoary? (My current install don't have kde)
[07:40] <dr_willis> it covers the steps very well.
[07:40] <da_bon_bon> hey, can someone explain me what the practical use of user mode linux can be ? the homepage doesnt explain much :)
[07:40] <dr_willis> BoD_SWAT,  I think if you are useing nvidia cards - you dont have to use xinerama. but i eneded up useing it anyway
[07:40] <dataw0lf|w> da_bon_bon: running kernels in userspace.
[07:40] <dr_willis> da_bon_bon,  to test kernels
[07:40] <JairunCaloth> I've found that ubuntu wiki page to be infinatly helpful so far
[07:41] <IcemanV9> mdJake: cannot promise, but i'll try :)
[07:41] <dataw0lf|w> da_bon_bon: so you could have 10 users, each with their own kernel, running on one server.
[07:41] <dataw0lf|w> So, they have total control over their kernel in userspace.
[07:41] <BoD_SWAT> dr_willis, I'm @ ATI, but thnx :D (I only asked because it's "alpha" software
[07:41] <rykel> btw, do you all love AUTOPACKAGE?
[07:41] <dataw0lf|w> ie, they can shutdown, install packages, etc, total control.
[07:41] <dataw0lf|w> check out linode.com for an applicable example.
[07:41] <Flav> hunh - anyone know why apache2 needs lynx?
[07:41] <Riddell> cart: I'm wrong, seems like breezy doesn't have it, there was a problem compiling it, I'll look into it
[07:41] <da_bon_bon> dataw0lf|w: u use it ?
[07:42] <mdJake> bye all
[07:42] <BoD_SWAT> I currently have 2 monitors connected (cloning). I want to view movies on my primary, it only shows movies on my secondary monitor. Help?
[07:42] <dataw0lf|w> da_bon_bon: I've played with it a bit.
[07:42] <dataw0lf|w> Flav: Short answer? because of apache2ctl.
[07:42] <cart> Riddell: Ok then, thanks anyway, maybe sometime i get some courage to install devel packages and made some custom packages for me! :P
[07:42] <Flav> dataw0lf|w: ah, gotcha - thanks :)
[07:43] <dr_willis> BoD_SWAT,  i reran that X config tool and added a 2nd monitor. and it worked decentlyu well.  BACKUP your working X config files first however
[07:43] <da_bon_bon> Riddell: on homepge, u mention -- Kubuntu Pure KGX *-- what is KGX ?
[07:43] <Riddell> da_bon_bon: KDE/GNU/Unix
[07:43] <BoD_SWAT> dr_willis, tried re-running the xconfig tool... It didn't help
[07:43] <dataw0lf|w> da_bon_bon: several of my friends have accounts on Linode, and I convinced caker (the owner) to add Ubuntu as an option.
[07:44] <dr_willis> BoD_SWAT,  or course useing it with the accelerated 3d drivers for the ati cards may be an issue
[07:44] <dataw0lf|w> He's switching to Xen, though.
[07:44] <dataw0lf|w> Which apparently has much, much, much better performance over UML.
[07:44] <BoD_SWAT> dr_willis, I'm using the ati drivers. My config file -->     http://pastebin.com/282758
[07:45] <BoD_SWAT> dr_willis, would Xinerama 'fix' that issue? :P
[07:45] <dr_willis> BoD_SWAT,   you may want to go check out the ubuntu wiki's   - odds are someone has done the exact same thing and will have a working sample
[07:46] <BoD_SWAT> dr_willis, will do that. Thanks :)
[07:47] <rykel> i am using autopackages if possible, because it seems more logical and clean than waiting for devs to update the apt-get repositories...
[07:47] <osity> has anyone setup software raid 1 on hoary?
[07:47] <concept10> what is the developemnt channel for ubuntu?
[07:48] <BoD_SWAT> rykel, I would always use apt-get
[07:48] <BoD_SWAT> rykel, it's easier and it works :D
[07:49] <ramai> Hi, does anybody know how to add .srt files to Xine?
[07:50] (BoD_SWAT/#ubuntu) ramai, do you mean that that extension should always be opened by Xine?
[07:50] <osity> so no one does raid in here today?
[07:50] <thenuke> ramai: please do use google before asking irc http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20703.html
[07:50] <rykel> bod: yeah... but we need both, apt-get and autopackages... when the 2 projects are integrated, autopackages will become the equivalent of DEBs and RPMs... one autopackage = DEB, Fedora Core RPM, Mandriva RPM, SuSE RPM and all the other associated formats...
[07:50] <ramai> No its just I got a movie with a .srt file with it and I want to add that subtitel
[07:51] <rykel> meantime, do not apt-get install what you can install with autopackage
[07:51] <BoD_SWAT> nope, sorry
[07:51] <thenuke> ramai: did you read that what I did point at you?
[07:51] <dataw0lf|w> osity: Not on Ubuntu.
[07:51] <JairunCaloth> what does the sources.list file do?
[07:52] <thenuke> JairunCaloth: it tells apt-get where to look packages for
[07:52] <rykel> eg. GIMP autopackage = version 2.2.6, while the apt-get is 2.2.4.   Firefox autopackage = 1.0.3, while apt-get only has 1.0.3 a few hours ago...
[07:52] <JairunCaloth> ah
[07:52] <rykel> ok, see ya guys and bye!!
[07:52] <ramai> thenuke => thanks
[07:52] <thenuke> JairunCaloth: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories you might want to have a look for this
[07:53] <thenuke> ramai: hope it works for you too
[07:54] <eob84> how do I force install a deb file
[07:54] <WeirdAl> Lo
[07:54] <thenuke> eob84: dpkg --help
[07:54] <eob84> yea
[07:54] <Jormundgand> rykel: apt-get depends where you tell it to look for packages. Firefox 1.0.3 has been on backports for ages.
[07:54] <eob84> I did what it said there
[07:54] <eob84> it didin't work
[07:54] <WeirdAl> Got a friend asking why x-chat isn't connecting. He's using mirc on Windows at the moment.
[07:54] <WeirdAl> Same PC, same network.
[07:54] <thenuke> eob84: then we might want to know more about the problem
[07:54] <eob84> ok
[07:55] <thenuke> if you tried to force it, and it does not work, you should not ask how to force it :)
[07:55] <zenlunatic> How can your test you bandwidth under ubuntu?
[07:55] <eob84> thenuke, I am trying to set ununtu up for bootsplash and I need to install the bootsplash backage and the newlinux theme
[07:55] <thenuke> zenlunatic: I think it is most convenient to try to download something big from site near you
[07:55] <eob84> but they depend on eachother to install
[07:56] <eob84> thenuke, so I have no idea what to do
[07:56] <WeirdAl> Any clues? Something to check that I've overlooked? He's got normal internet but no IRC
[07:56] <thenuke> zenlunatic: maybe a local university of yours has mirror for some linux distros for example?
[07:56] <WeirdAl> He's behind a router.
[07:56] <eob84> oh
[07:56] <Jormundgand> Open port 6667-7000.
[07:56] <eob84> is he
[07:56] <Jormundgand> ports*
[07:56] <eob84> yea
[07:56] <JairunCaloth> I never knew that I needed tabbed browsing so badly until I had it, lol
[07:57] <JairunCaloth> now I can't live with out it
[07:57] <dr_willis> heee
[07:57] <medication> i hear that Jairun
[07:57] <eob84> what is the syntax to force a program to install
[07:57] <JairunCaloth> I start reading one thing, and to understand that, I have to hop over somewhere else, which takes me somewhere else. I must have 8 tabs open right now, and I'm trying to work backwards through them
[07:58] <eob84> I tried dpkg -i --force
[07:58] <eob84> if it isn't the apt database
[07:58] <eob84> I can't seem to install it if it needs dep.
[07:58] <shinu> can i use * or ? with wget?
[07:59] <BoD_SWAT> how secure is Ubuntu by default? And how can I really upgrade it? (I already got firestarter)
[07:59] <agent> when using dh_make, should one run ./configure first if it is needed or will dh_make do that?
[07:59] <eob84> as secure as all unix distros
[07:59] <eob84> the more apps you have the more you compromise your security
[08:00] <eob84> you can upgrade using apt
[08:00] <BoD_SWAT> hmm.... OK
[08:00] <BoD_SWAT> How can I change the access rights to a program? (so that also users can run it?)
[08:00] <goldfish> chmod
[08:00] <eob84> you can put it in a group
[08:00] <BoD_SWAT> and then the /sbin/ dir correct?
[08:00] <HappyFool> eob84: i'm not a dpkg guru, but what happens if you do 'dpkg -i <deb1> <deb2>' ?
[08:00] <Fackamato> Is it safe to resize reiserfs?
[08:00] <BoD_SWAT> resize larger or smaller?
[08:01] <HappyFool> eob84: otherwise take a look at 'dpkg --force-help'  -- i think dpkg --force-all might be the hammer you're looking for
[08:01] <eob84> HappyFool, that worked perfect
[08:01] <HappyFool> which, the first?
[08:01] <eob84> HappyFool, I have no clue why I didn't think of it
[08:02] <eob84> HappyFool, yea
[08:02] <HappyFool> cool :-)
[08:02] <Fackamato> BoD_SWAT: smaller
[08:02] <eob84> HappyFool, thanx I was actually working a while on this
[08:02] <eob84> HappyFool, the solution is sooo lame...
[08:02] <HappyFool> guess was based on what dear old rpm does
[08:03] <mainer> happyfool: dpkg -i *.deb will install all .deb's in a directory
[08:03] <eob84> I had others in there
[08:03] <WeirdAl> My question: I've got loads of backgrounds in my background list and I want to get rid of them all at once.
[08:03] <eob84> that I didn't want installed just yer
[08:03] <eob84> ha
[08:03] <eob84> well if you really want to
[08:03] <eob84> sudo user
[08:03] <WeirdAl> The computer's too slow to make it practical doing them one by one.
[08:04] <eob84> go to /usr/share/wallpaper
[08:04] <BoD_SWAT> eob84, goldfish, dr_willis  I thank you all.
[08:04] <WeirdAl> Oh
[08:04] <goldfish> np
[08:04] <eob84> and type rm *
[08:04] <WeirdAl> dir doesn't exist.
[08:04] <eob84> but I don't think those images are slowing you down
[08:04] <eob84> what?
[08:04] <WeirdAl> They're not.
[08:04] <WeirdAl> But the list is cluttered and I don't use them all.
[08:05] <WeirdAl> And it's impossible to click on one and delete it within five seconds.
[08:05] <eob84> /usr/share/wallpapers does now exist?
[08:05] <WeirdAl> That's what it says.
[08:05] <eob84> not*
[08:05] <eob84> are you using hoary?
[08:05] <WeirdAl> yep
[08:05] <WeirdAl> bash: cd: /usr/share/wallpaper: No such file or directory
[08:05] <eob84> wallpaper(s)
[08:06] <WeirdAl> ah
[08:06] <eob84> use tab complete
[08:06] <WeirdAl> ^_^
[08:06] <eob84> sorry about that
[08:06] <WeirdAl> There's only w3m
[08:06] <eob84> that is where I have all mine
[08:07] <WeirdAl> Well the actual *images* are in ~/wallpaper
[08:07] <WeirdAl> But I don't want to get rid of the actual files.
[08:07] <WeirdAl> I just want to empty the list so when I load my background chooser there's nothing in there.
[08:07] <eob84> oh... you just want them off the list?
[08:07] <eob84> I don't know about that
[08:07] <goldfish> move them to a different folder?
[08:07] <brosio> help
[08:07] <eob84> it looks in that directory for the list
[08:07] <WeirdAl> oh
[08:07] <JairunCaloth> what is the gpg command?
[08:07] <brosio> this source kernel linux-source-2.6.10
[08:08] <eob84> so back them up to like bg.tar.gz
[08:08] <brosio> is the same that i'm using  2.6.10-5-amd64-generic ?
[08:08] <thenuke> JairunCaloth: try, whatis gpg
[08:08] <JairunCaloth> oh cool, thanks
[08:10] <HappyFool> brosio: looks like it. Do you need to compile the kernel?
[08:10] <brosio> i need header and source kernel that i'm using
[08:11] <rottis> how to change fluxbox's background/wallapaper?
[08:11] <goldfish> rottis: ask in #fluxbox maybe ?
[08:11] <goldfish> i can't remember how to myself :/
[08:11] <rottis> :/
[08:12] <goldfish> rottis: it's in the config file or something
[08:12] <goldfish> google ?
[08:12] <HappyFool> brosio: are you sure you don't just need "linux-headers-<something>" (probably "linux-headers-amd64-generic" ?)
[08:12] <Fator_Dee> rottis: right click on desktop -> settings -> desktop settings
[08:12] <Fator_Dee> oh, sorry
[08:12] <rottis> hmh
[08:13] <Fator_Dee> I read xfce instead of fluxbox >_<
[08:14] <mirak> what module do you use for your webcams ?
[08:15] <ivoks> there... HOWTO for rt2500 fixed
[08:18] <JairunCaloth> I've played with linux a few times before, but I have never been able to get this much stuff up and running. This is a great distro with an awsome community to help out us complete n00bs.
[08:21] <sri> JairunCaloth: which distro?
[08:21] <loren> Kubuntu/Ubuntu
[08:21] <loren> oh whoops nvm
[08:21] <sri> ah,okay.
[08:21] <sri> good!
[08:21] <sri> I'm assuming you're running GNOME then.
[08:21] <JairunCaloth> yes
[08:22] <sri> JairunCaloth: are you a recent convert to Ubuntu/GNOME?
[08:22] <JairunCaloth> The past few times I've tried a linux distro I used redhat 6ish... I think. that was a while ago, then redhat 9
[08:22] <sri> ah, okay.
[08:22] <Jormundgand> I tried Kubuntu, so I'm pretty well qualified to have an opinion on GNOME vs KDE. In my opinion GNOME wins superbly over KDE on intuitiveness and customisability, but KDE has one or two odd nifty things which push it forward, like the consistent naming strategy. (GNOME doesn't have the same effect as using the K Desktop Environment with Koffice, Konqueror, Konversation and Kopete.)
[08:22] <JairunCaloth> I completly trashed my HDD trying to install redhat 6
[08:23] <JairunCaloth> had to reformat
[08:23] <sri> Jormundgand: what do you mean by consistent naming strategy? everything begins iwth 'K'?
[08:23] <Jormundgand> Yes.
[08:23] <sri> JairunCaloth: ugh.
[08:23] <Jormundgand> You don't get that with GNOME.
[08:23] <JairunCaloth> yea, it was ugly, and I was a n00b
[08:24] <sri> Jormundgand: it's not very interesting to have thing snamed with 'K'. or 'G'.  My personal opinion is to have interesting names
[08:24] <loren> sri: yeah i wish they'd have new names like "Excel" or "Camino"
[08:24] <JairunCaloth> I managed to install redhat 9 without many problems, but I was pretty much lost as what to do with it, and it just sat there rotting on my HDD while I kept using windows
[08:24] <sri> having a namespace for applications to identify them as a desktop app seems..well, constraining.
[08:25] <Andril> hello all
[08:25] <loren> i hate RH9
[08:25] <loren> hi
[08:25] <sri> loren: there was a couple interesting ones in gnomefiles I liked..I couldn't remember what it was
[08:25] <Hoxzer> Hi
[08:25] <Hoxzer> Somebody here has installed BTDC  _
[08:25] <Hoxzer> ?
[08:25] <loren> sri: yeah i know what you mean, like Konversation isn't a bad name
[08:25] <JairunCaloth> I was using KDE then, and that was a while ago, but I'm really likeing gnome
[08:25] <Andril> syltty, you there?
[08:25] <HappyFool> what's BTDC ?
[08:25] <Hoxzer> DC client
[08:26] <loren> JairunCaloth: strange i was the opposite lol, i liked Gnome and then KDE XD
[08:26] <sri> JairunCaloth: I've never used KDE, but I found that options tend to confuse newbies...but it's good to have both desktops around so nobody has to compromise :)
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> lol
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> I havn't used either in forever
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> I used to have them both installed though on my redhat distros
[08:26] <loren> sri: there ya go lol, i picked up  KDE in a second, but it was only because it was friendly to use and nice looking
[08:27] <rj_>  is there a way to completely remove gnome and all it's depends?
[08:27] <rj_> i'am running a headless server -- and i didnt do a "custom" install so all the default packages were installed -- alot of which i don't need
[08:27] <Hoxzer> when Im trying to do the install it says: Configure: error: C++ preprocessor /lib/cpp fails sanity check
[08:27] <sri> loren: note that for someoen non-technical all those options are meaningless because most people will choose the default.
[08:27] <Hoxzer> what I can do ?
[08:27] <mirak> what package is video for linux ?
[08:27] <sri> and never mind that if you're a support person it'll be painful because there is a lot of stuff to walk people through.
[08:28] <makaveli> does anybody know of a program that will take your current desktop and put it into 3d like all of your icons
[08:28] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: does the software require a particular cpp version?
[08:28] <loren> sri: true, i wish that gnome just had different icons i guess lol, then i personally wouldn't mind using it, they're so brown and ugly, and i bet this has been discussed MANY MANY times
[08:28] <Hoxzer> Happy: dunno
[08:28] <sri> loren: can't you use the kde icons that were ported to gnome?
[08:28] <JairunCaloth> sri: hehe, in a couple of months you are all going to run when you see me comming. I'm sure I'm going to have many questions.
[08:28] <sri> kde makes good icons
[08:28] <loren> ,alave;o" i forgot the name but i think it might have something to do with SuperKaramba, i'm probably wronge though
[08:28] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: take a look in README/INSTALL and/or similarly named files to check
[08:29] <osity> how do i see my parititions?
[08:29] <loren> sri: did they do that? hmmh
[08:29] <makaveli> ?
[08:29] <m4x> is there a way to install ubuntu w/o a CDROM drive?
[08:29] <sri> JairunCaloth: well, hopefully if we did our job right you won't have a lot of questions and everything should be intuitive.  If it isn't thats good to know
[08:29] <sri> loren: yeah, go to www.gnome-look.org
[08:29] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: I know of one app requiring cpp 3.4, and hoary comes with cpp 3.3. That *might* be the problem, though I think it's unlikely
[08:29] <sri> loren: which is the same machine as kde-look.org I believe.
[08:29] <loren> sri: i know the recent addition of http://gnome-look.org is fanominally both needed and an awsome idea, i think it's gonna boost em up a bit, but i might pick up gnome3 when it comes out with new features
[08:29] <loren> sri: yeah i think so
[08:30] <sri> gnome3 is probably years away :)
[08:30] <Hoxzer> Happy: well they didt said anything about it
[08:30] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: you have done "sudo apt-get install build-essential", right ?
[08:30] <Hoxzer> no
[08:30] <loren> sri: unfortunatly
[08:30] <makaveli> does anybody know of a program that will take ur desktop 3d
[08:30] <makaveli> ?
[08:30] <Jormundgand> The problem with many icon themes is that they're so incomplete.
[08:30] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: try that first
[08:30] <JairunCaloth> ser: I've found tons and tons of help in the wiki files, and the irc chan helps direct me to little things I didn't realize or just looked over
[08:31] <loren> makaveli: you mean whilist switching desktops from one to another or uhm, what do you mean?
[08:31] <JairunCaloth> lol ser=sri
[08:31] <sri> makaveli: I think there is a 3dwm or osmething like that in ubuntu
[08:31] <m4x> makaveli, http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/details.xml
[08:32] <m4x> that what u mean?
[08:32] <makaveli> loren: i mean like not switching desktops because i already tried 3ddesktop and i don't like that i need something that will like take all my icons and put them 3d in the middle of my screen
[08:32] <sri> I guess we don't know what you mean by '3d'.
[08:32] <sri> the icons are 3 dimensional?
[08:32] <loren> makaveli: oh sorry then, i can't help you there, it would be pretty cool to see though, please post a link if you find out ;)
[08:32] <Jormundgand> http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/342/ <-- this takes me back. RedHat Linux 4.2.
[08:32] <m4x> http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/details.xml
[08:32] <m4x> check out that link for a 3d desktop
[08:33] <loren> makaveli: i do know that you can stack 2d icons on top of eachother and scroll though to change icons
[08:33] <makaveli> how would you do that
[08:34] <makaveli> also how do you switch to 3ddesktop without running the application
[08:34] <makaveli> because everytime i want to switch workplace i have to go run 3ddesktop and that's to tideous
[08:34] <JairunCaloth> whoh, virtual stickies!!
[08:34] <BigJG> lol
[08:35] <gibeau> has anyone got arla/openafs to work on the 2.6 kernel?
[08:37] <zxc> Does anyone know how to use the "Rm" command to remove a dir
[08:37] <HappyFool> hrm. wiki changed it's look and feel?
[08:37] <m4x> zxc, rm -r
[08:37] <franklin50> zxc: rmdir is the command you want
[08:38] <zxc> rmdir: `realplayer': Permission denied, franklin50- how do I make it so I can delete this?
[08:38] <Badness45> helloo
[08:38] <JairunCaloth> what is the perfered multimedia player for most?
[08:38] <Jormundgand> rhythmbox.
[08:39] <Jormundgand> zxc: sudo apt-get remove realplayer
[08:39] <franklin50> zxc: sudo rm -r
[08:39] <m4x> zxc, su -
[08:39] <sabdfl> hey all, how's it going?
[08:39] <Badness45> what's up guys i am trying to install my wireless network card on my laptop i need help
[08:39] <m4x> is there a way to install ubuntu w/o a CDROM drive?
[08:39] <franklin50> ooh, good question m4x
[08:39] <zxc> m4x, I think there's a way in the howto forums- ftp or something
[08:40] <Jormundgand> Badness45: You'll need to A) ask a question and B) be more specific about your problem.
[08:40] <mcsf> hey all
[08:40] <Badness45> i have a broadcom network adapter and when i installed warty it's not reconized
[08:41] <Jormundgand> Install Hoary.
[08:41] <tritium> willis, ping
[08:41] <JairunCaloth> this unofficia ubuntu guide is king
[08:41] <Badness45> hoary didn't work the graphics card was not compatiable
[08:42] <pablo928>  Badness45,which graphics card?
[08:42] <mcsf> i trying the latest Ubuntu LiveCD, and i think it doesn't like my ATI Radeon 9200, because the screen turns blank after loading everything and entering the x server
[08:42] <mcsf> i tried*
[08:42] <Badness45> i used somthing call ndiswrapper and they have a driver realease for the 64 bit laptops and still don't work
[08:42] <tritium> Hi sabdfl.  How are you?
[08:43] <Badness45> i have nvida
[08:43] <aardvark> ?
[08:43] <mcsf> do you know what can cause this, and how do i solve it?
[08:43] <pablo928> mcsf:i'm on hoary right now using a radeon 9200 with a default install
[08:43] <Jormundgand> Anyone know how to make the background of the user list transparent in Xchat?
[08:43] <Badness45> by the way i am new with this os
[08:44] <mcsf> pablo928 : and did it work with the LiveCD? it's just that i'm quite a Linux newbie and don't want to get into complicated stuff
[08:44] <xukun> anbody know what this error means? I get it after I try to run nxclient "Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
[08:44] <xukun> Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset"
[08:44] <aardvark> anyone know how to get an apt-get dist_uprgade to work when its saying there are packages being held back ??? I am trying to upgrade from warty to hoary
[08:45] <aardvark> the ratbag is jivving me
[08:45] <billytwowilly> when did oracle 8i come out?
[08:45] <pablo928> mcsf, never tried the hoary live cd but, yes, it worked with the warty live cd
[08:46] <aardvark> apt-get dist-upgrade anyone ????????????????????????
[08:46] <goldfish> Hi guys, I'm having some trouble, when i try to ssh to my laptop from my desktop, i get "remote host identification has changed" someone may be eavesdropping, and also i cannot ssh out from my laptop.
[08:46] <Jormundgand> aardvark: If anyone can help they will. Don't start getting huffy because nobody can help.
[08:46] <mcsf> pablo928: thanks
[08:46] <tritium> aardvark, is it "upgrade" or "dist-upgrade" that is holding packages back?
[08:47] <mcsf> pablo928, so i guess the problem maybe isn't the GFX card?
[08:47] <goldfish> anyone know what I can do... ?
[08:47] <aardvark> Jormundgand: pennace for my sins
[08:47] <aardvark> tritium: dist-upgrade
[08:47] <sabdfl> tritium: well thanks. recovered from sydney and thrilled with the state of the breezy goal specs from UDU
[08:47] <HappyFool> goldfish: try editing / erasing .ssh/known_hosts
[08:47] <Badness45> has anyone installed the broadcom wireless driver on there laptop
[08:47] <pablo928> mcsf, probably not
[08:47] <tritium> sabdfl, super :)
[08:47] <goldfish> HappyFool: did that, get the same problem :/
[08:47] <tritium> aardvark, which packages?
[08:47] <sabdfl> cheeeerio
[08:47] <HappyFool> err
[08:47] <aardvark> gees a bunch
[08:47] <aardvark> mostly gnome
[08:47] <Jormundgand> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=167853#post167853 - Eeeeee.
[08:47] <aardvark> and xfree
[08:48] <tritium> aardvark, please query me and paste the output
[08:48] <mcsf> pablo928, do you know of any hardware that is known to cause such problems with x server?
[08:48] <aardvark> tritium: the box in question is at home and I am at work....using my Powerbook
[08:49] <goldfish> HappyFool: do u think maybe someone is sniffing my network or something?
[08:49] <tritium> aardvark, okay.  I'm somewhat surprised, frankly.  upgrade might hold the packages back, but I would expect dist-upgrade not to.
[08:49] <HappyFool> goldfish: do you have secrets worth stealing?
[08:49] <goldfish> nope
[08:49] <aardvark> tritium: is there anyway to get more verbose info on which dependancies are holding me back
[08:49] <HappyFool> goldfish: unlikely ;)
[08:49] <goldfish> HappyFool: but i cant ssh in or out to it :/
[08:50] <Badness45> i have a broadcom network adapter and when i installed warty it's not reconized
[08:50] <tritium> aardvark, you can use the "-u" switch
[08:50] <HappyFool> you can ssh to other hosts from your laptop/
[08:50] <aardvark> tritium: my warty box here dist-upgraded to hoary just fine
[08:50] <aardvark> tritium: ok I'll try it tonite thanx
[08:50] <jackass> which player can play divx, xvid mpg movies for ubuntu????
[08:50] <aardvark> jackass: mplayer is good 4 that
[08:50] <goldfish> HappyFool: nope
[08:51] <goldfish> HappyFool: can't ssh at all
[08:51] <jackass> where can i find?
[08:51] <tritium> aardvark, you can also use the -s switch.  (-u = --show-upgrade, -s = --simulate)
[08:51] <makaveli> hey i have a problem with my sound
[08:51] <makaveli> i don't know how to diagnose or anything
[08:51] <mirak_> I have this error when I run xawtv, I don't know how to resolve it :
[08:51] <mirak_> WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual
[08:51] <mirak_>          configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>")
[08:51] <tritium> aardvark, -u = --show-upgraded, that is ;)
[08:51] <aardvark> tritium: cool i should have RTFM'd
[08:51] <tritium> no problem
[08:51] <HappyFool> goldfish: maybe ssh -v, or -vv, or -vvv will help you diagnose the problem... ?
[08:52] <goldfish> HappyFool: will try thanks
[08:52] <mainer> goldfish: dwnld install and run rootkithuntrer     http://rootkit.nl
[08:52] <mainer> linchtime
[08:52] <xukun> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
[08:52] <xukun> Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
[08:52] <HappyFool> goldfish: also, ssh is fiddly about permissions on  files in .ssh (any maybe on .ssh as well)
[08:52] <makaveli> when i try to play an mp3 with xmms it says this: Please check that" your soundcard is configured properly, you have the correct output plugin selected and no other program is blocking the soundcard
[08:52] <xukun> which fonts I,m I missing?
[08:52] <zenlunatic> How can I test my bandwidth under ubuntu?
[08:53] <Badness45> how can i install the network adapter for my laptop
[08:53] <bluemax> hey
[08:53] <pablo928> zenlunatic:if you have java installed you can try testmy.net
[08:53] <jackass> aardwark do you mean windows media player???
[08:53] <aardvark> zenlunatic: bandwidth to and from ISP ?
[08:54] <goldfish> makaveli: in settings choose alsa output
[08:54] <Fator_Dee> am I imagining things or is the mplayer from hoarys repos a little broken?
[08:55] <aardvark> jackass: no mplayer
[08:55] <makaveli> goldfish: where is settings?
[08:55] <jackass> aardwark: where can I find that player then?
[08:55] <goldfish> makaveli: emmm, top left corner of it
[08:55] <Geezer041> Please can you help an idiot. I installed via synaptic xfree866 something. Rebooted and it doesnt work. I only have what looks like a terminal (DOS) Can you help me get rid of xfree866 or get me into a GUI so that i can via synaptic?
[08:55] <goldfish> makaveli: right click
[08:55] <goldfish> i think
[08:55] <aardvark> seems like mplayer is at its end......
[08:56] <zenlunatic> aardvark, yeah
[08:56] <aardvark> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/index.html
[08:56] <aardvark> they are being pressurized by the 'man'
[08:56] <aardvark> cease and desist
[08:56] <makaveli> goldfish: for output plugin it says also 1.2.10 output plugin
[08:56] <makaveli> it still won't work
[08:56] <aardvark> when did all this transpire, would that explain hoarys repository  ?
[08:56] <goldfish> jeez
[08:57] <jackass> thnx
[08:57] <bluemax> is there an easy way to change the Applications/Places/System menu names in Gnome?
[08:57] <aardvark> jackass: try Xine
[08:57] <mark345> hey:), im having a problem viewing thumbnails for a few mpg files in nautilus
[08:57] <aardvark> jackass: better yet look at VLC http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[08:57] <Geezer041> would anybody be help me?
[08:57] <Geezer041>  Please can you help an idiot. I installed via synaptic xfree866 something. Rebooted and it doesnt work. I only have what looks like a terminal (DOS) Can you help me get rid of xfree866 or get me into a GUI so that i can via synaptic?
[08:58] <mark345> the files used to be .avi files and were unreadable
[08:58] <mark345> i converted them to mpg and they play fine
[08:58] <mark345> but they still have no thumbnails, just icons
[08:58] <goldfish> Geezer041: you could try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[08:59] <Geezer041> tk
[08:59] <mark345> bluemax: install smeg
[08:59] <mark345> menu editor
[08:59] <Fator_Dee> well, all would be alright if the european parliament would vote "no" to the patent legislation
[08:59] <makaveli> i still can't figure out why none of the programs won't play any of my music miles
[08:59] <makaveli> file*
[08:59] <Fator_Dee> Geezer041: do you have hoary or warty installed?
[08:59] <aardvark> makaveli: is your soundcard working
[08:59] <Geezer041> hoary
[08:59] <makaveli> yes
[09:00] <makaveli> i get all the sounds that gnome creates
[09:00] <pablo928> makaveli:what format are they, mp3?
[09:00] <makaveli> yes
[09:00] <HappyFool> tried installing gstreamer0.8-mad ?
[09:00] <aardvark> makaveli: are these mp3's, wma ?
[09:00] <bluemax> mark: i have smeg but it seems i can only edit the stuff under the Applications menu unstead of the Applications title itself...
[09:00] <makaveli> the are mp3
[09:00] <zenlunatic> aardvark, what we need is free software mulitmedia formats
[09:00] <Fator_Dee> Geezer041: hoary uses xorg instead of xfree86, so I think you should do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg instead of dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[09:00] <makaveli> xmms won't work totem won't work and neither will music player
[09:01] <aardvark> zenlunatic: hmmm I'll speak to the man ;-)
[09:01] <Flav> zenlunatic: like ogg? :)
[09:01] <xukun> can somebody tell me why I cant run freenx on ubuntu?
[09:01] <zenlunatic> Flav, Vorbis yes. And flac and theora.
[09:01] <zenlunatic> Flav, Oh and MPC.
[09:01] <aardvark> zenlunatic: flac is nice but huge
[09:01] <Flav> lossless will do that
[09:01] <zenlunatic> Flav, The open sound formats are already superior.
[09:02] <Fator_Dee> but the software patent legislation si still a huge drawback
[09:02] <zenlunatic> aardvark, duh its lossless
[09:02] <aardvark> zenlunatic: precisely but its sounz good
[09:02] <aardvark> zenlunatic: whats your point
[09:03] <makaveli> none of my media players work with any of the mp3's
[09:03] <aardvark> makaveli: XMMS ?
[09:03] <Fator_Dee> makaveli: have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad?
[09:03] <tritium> makaveli, you need to install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:03] <makaveli> nope
[09:03] <makaveli> i don't know
[09:03] <zenlunatic> aardvark, you said its big
[09:03] <HappyFool> makaveli: read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:03] <zenlunatic> aardvark, of course lossless is larger
[09:03] <xukun> bob2, are u in?
[09:04] <makaveli> will do thanks
[09:04] <aardvark> makaveli: type on the CLI "apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad"
[09:04] <ivoks> what is CLI?
[09:04] <zenlunatic> aardvark, don't forget sudo or sudo -s -H
[09:04] <HappyFool> command-line interface
[09:04] <zenlunatic> ivoks, command line
[09:04] <xukun> its possible that I cant run freenx becouse no xfonts-base is not installed on ubuntu?
[09:04] <ivoks> line?
[09:04] <abbot45> how do i restart the panel?
[09:04] <ivoks> :)
[09:04] <aardvark> zenlunatic: sure ! hey makaveli did you hear that ?
[09:05] <bluemax> is there another Gnome menu editor besides Smeg that i can use to change the Applications, Places, and System menu titles to something else?
[09:05] <tritium> ivoks, command line interface
[09:05] <JairunCaloth> are there linux drivers for the SB audigy?
[09:05] <zenlunatic> aardvark, sudo -s -H may be dangerous though :)
[09:05] <ivoks> tritium you are spoiling all the fun :(
[09:05] <tritium> ivoks, heh, sorry ;)
[09:05] <mark345> anyone know how to reset the .thumbnail directory in gnome
[09:05] <mark345> ???
[09:06] <tritium> mark345, you can safely delete its contents
[09:06] <mark345> even the folders inside .thumbnail?
[09:06] <abbot45> bluemax, there are a few different ones, but they are basicly gonna do the same thing for you as Smeg.  you can try Menueditor.  but there isnt really a good way.  the next ubuntu release (10.12) will have a full supported menu editor.
[09:07] <mark345> bluemax: smeg is the best, if "other" folder is not showing up, which is a bug, just ad it, then it will show up
[09:07] <bluemax> abbot45: ok thanks... ubuntu isn't as customizable as i was hoping it would be...
[09:08] <abbot45> bluemax, oops.  i mean the next Gnome release, not the next Ubuntu release.
[09:08] <Andril> anyone familiar with autopackage?
[09:08] <abbot45> bluemax, it will be version 2.12.0
[09:08] <bluemax> abbot45: ah, that's good, i didn't want to wait months for the next ubuntu release :)
[09:09] <abbot45> bluemax, i dont know when the next gnome release is.  it may be just as long.
[09:09] <pablo928>  tritium:, how long do you think before breezy is stable enough for a newbie like me to play with? (I can install it on a empty hdd i have).
[09:09] <abbot45> can anyone tell me how to restart the gnome panel?  its killall _____
[09:10] <tritium> pablo928, I'd give it at least a few weeks
[09:10] <bluemax> killall gnome-panel
[09:10] <pablo928> abbot45, killall gnome-panel
[09:10] <abbot45> thanks
[09:10] <abbot45> bluemax, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo
[09:10] <Geezer041> Tritium i wonder if you can help me a problem?
[09:10] <pablo928> tritiummaybe i'll try it next month.
[09:11] <tritium> Geezer041, possibly.  What is it?
[09:11] <tritium> pablo928, sounds good.
[09:11] <Geezer041>  installed via synaptic xfree866 something. Rebooted and it doesnt work. I only have what looks like a terminal (DOS) Can you help me get rid of xfree866 or get me into a GUI so that i can via synaptic?
[09:12] <tritium> Geezer041, if you're running hoary, you should be using xorg, not xfree86.  Please "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:13] <no0tic> backports are extreeemely slow, it's normal?
[09:13] <Andril> anyone install inkscape?
[09:13] <Geezer041> It is broken or not fully installed
[09:13] <R0bNyc> I've tried to install Kubuntu and Ubuntu and I get this error. I choose reiserfs anyways.. Copying Packages Failed.. Copying packages to the harddisk failed. You may have run out of disk space in the targer /var filesystem.     Check /var/log/syslog or see virtual console 4 for the details.
[09:14] <aardvark> anyone know what the current availibility / support there is for writing to NTFS partitions ?
[09:15] <tritium> Geezer041, "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg".  Also, please include my nick, as I'm in a meeting, and switching out of this channel.
[09:15] <aardvark> tritium: are you an official Ubuntu dev ?
[09:15] <agent> anyone get qemu to compile?
[09:15] <dead^^> hi everyone. does anyone here know P2P programs to Linux, like DC++ or oDC on Windows. Does Linux even have one that would support DC++ or oDC hublists?
[09:15] <Geezer041> thanks and sorry
[09:16] <goldfish> dead^^: dc++ works on ubuntu, there is a howto in ubuntuforums.org
[09:16] <tritium> aardvark, no, I'm an motu
[09:16] <dead^^> goldfish, really? thanks man
[09:16] <goldfish> dead^^: yep
[09:16] <aardvark> tritium: excuse my French, what the $^#@$%@# is motu
[09:16] <Geezer041> tritium: Thank you. Should i don anything else?
[09:17] <tritium> aardvark, heh, sorry.  We maintain packages in universe, but not main
[09:17] <aardvark> ah said the blind man
[09:17] <tritium> Geezer041, try that for now, and please let me know how things go.
[09:17] <Geezer041> ok, tk
[09:17] <dead^^> goldfish, i'll try it out and if it doesn't work or i'll get stuck, i'll come to you :)
[09:17] <goldfish> hehe
[09:17] <Andril> has anyone installed Inkscape?
[09:17] <R0bNyc>  I've tried to install Kubuntu and Ubuntu and I get this error. I choose reiserfs anyways.. Copying Packages Failed.. Copying packages to the harddisk failed. You may have run out of disk space in the targer /var filesystem.     Check /var/log/syslog or see virtual console 4 for the details can aonyone help me
[09:19] <aperson> h'lo all
[09:19] <agent> R0bNyc, most likely you screwed up your partitions :) jutst do ubuntu default install... if you ran out of space in var that probably means you made the partition waaaaaaay too small
[09:20] <agent> R0bNyc, or you can try to resize the partition if you know how
[09:20] <R0bNyc> agent, 9.7gb is way to install ?
[09:20] <evilmegaman> am I here?
[09:20] <pablo928>  R0bNyc, are you installing ubuntu as a 2nd os or the only os?
[09:21] <R0bNyc> 2nd pablo928
[09:21] <tritium> aardvark, why do you ask?  just curious, or did you have a concern?
[09:21] <aardvark> tritium: just interested
[09:21] <tritium> aardvark, okay :)
[09:21] <Geezer041> tritium: Back in to GUI
[09:21] <tritium> Geezer041, super :)
[09:22] <Geezer041> tk
[09:22] <tritium> no problem!
[09:22] <Geezer041> tritium: You any idea now how to make my 855gm intel c**p work properly so i can play AA?
[09:22] <K_Dallas> anyone good with LaTeX here? #latex is so slow to answer if ever
[09:22] <tritium> K_Dallas, what's up?
[09:23] <tritium> Geezer041, how is it not working properly?  And what is AA?
[09:23] <K_Dallas> well i need to plave a vertical text, banner like, in the left margin
[09:23] <K_Dallas> place*
[09:23] <Andril> has anone used this http://autopackage.org/index.html
[09:23] <dead^^> hey, goldfish. how long are planning to stay here?
[09:23] <goldfish> i am always here
[09:24] <Geezer041> tritium: Its a game Americas Army but the graphics are all choppy. They weren't under XP
[09:24] <tritium> K_Dallas, hmm, I haven't dont that before.  Let me see what I can find...
[09:24] <K_Dallas> thank you
[09:24] <john6000> cedega?
[09:24] <K_Dallas> cedega == winex ?
[09:24] <john6000> yep
[09:24] <john6000> but hugher version
[09:24] <john6000> less bugs
[09:24] <K_Dallas> ok
[09:24] <john6000> more compatuble
[09:24] <john6000> compatible*
[09:24] <K_Dallas> never used it (well i never play ;)
[09:25] <john6000> ok
[09:25] <Gianmaria> hi guys, rythmbox says it needs an mp3 plugin to process mp3 files, what's the name of this plug in ? Thanks in advance
[09:25] <john6000> i got steam to run in cedega
[09:25] <eruin> cedega is great
[09:25] <tritium> Geezer041, no, sorry.  I'm not sure about that.
[09:25] <K_Dallas> last game i played was gorilla ;)
[09:25] <john6000> yep cedega is cool
[09:25] <john6000> :)
[09:25] <JDahl> I have a local printer setup with CUPS on one machine. Can other Ubuntu machines use the same printer? I am not sure how to share it using CUPS
[09:25] <tritium> Gianmaria, gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:25] <eruin> Gianmaria: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:25] <Geezer041> tritium: Thanks for all your help, you're a legend!
[09:25] <Gianmaria> tritium: thanks
[09:25] <tritium> Geezer041, no, not really.  But thanks.  :)
[09:26] <Gianmaria> eruin: thanks
[09:26] <john6000> #kubuntu has gone quiet :o
[09:26] <JDahl> K_Dallas, Gorilla was a great game!
[09:26] <g14> OT: The new Microsoft VI - http://packetstormsecurity.org/unix-humor/unixoid_hell.gif
[09:27] <K_Dallas> JDahl: i know ;)
[09:27] <john6000> ha funny
[09:27] <john6000> lol
[09:27] <tritium> K_Dallas, have you use tekdoctk?
[09:27] <IcemanV9> gorilla == donkey kong??
[09:27] <JDahl> shouldn't it be easy to share a CUPS printer with other machines? What would I type in the URI field under network setup?
[09:27] <K_Dallas> tritium what is that? a package?
[09:27] <tritium> K_Dallas, sorry, that's texdoctk
[09:28] <K_Dallas> a package? nope then
[09:28] <K_Dallas> i will try it
[09:28] <tritium> it's part of tetex-bin.  It's a documentation browser for TeX/LaTeX
[09:28] <concept10> what is the apt-get command to search for a package installed?
[09:28] <K_Dallas> apt-cache search
[09:28] <tritium> dpkg -l | grep <package>
[09:28] <K_Dallas> oh :)
[09:29] <concept10> two ways
[09:29] <tritium> apt-cache search will look in the repositories as well
[09:29] <K_Dallas> tritium i will try it when i boot back into debian
[09:29] <K_Dallas> thanks
[09:29] <tritium> K_Dallas, okay, no problem.
[09:29] <concept10> K_Dallas: dallas, tx/
[09:29] <concept10> ?
[09:29] <tritium> dpkg only looks at locally installed packages
[09:29] <Seveas> tritium, apt-cache search looks only in local copies of sourcelists
[09:29] <tritium> Seveas, true
[09:30] <Seveas> and dpkg -l can handle wildcards too :)
[09:30] <K_Dallas> :)
[09:30] <tritium> But it'll list packages that are not installed
[09:30] <Seveas> dpkg -l '*gimp*' for instance
[09:30] <tritium> (apt-cache search)
[09:30] <Seveas> tritium, very true :)
[09:30] <tritium> yep
[09:30] <Seveas> but so can dpkg
[09:31] <Seveas> well, only uninstalled but not purged or unpacked but not configured ones
[09:31] <tritium> concept10, what is it you're looking for?
[09:31] <Fator_Dee> well, this is a refreshment to the old distro/editor/browser wars ;-)
[09:31] <tritium> Seveas, indeed :)
[09:32] <R0bNyc> pablo928, u there
[09:32] <concept10> yes - Im not a regular ubuntu/debian user - but I like ubuntu, im trying to move some tools over to ubuntu from RPMS
[09:32] <zxc> is it possible to run internet explorer on ubuntu?
[09:32] <Seveas> hmm, instead of A/S/L it is now D/D/E (Distro, Desktop, Editor) :))
[09:32] <tritium> concept10, super.  It sounds like you're searching for packages that you have not installed yet?  I'd use apt-cache search
[09:32] <Seveas> zxc, maybe using a lot of tweaking and wine
[09:32] <tritium> zxc, yes, with wine
[09:32] <K_Dallas> zxc: crossover does it but not sure about wine
[09:32] <K_Dallas> so wine it too :)
[09:33] <zxc> ah it must have been crossover, I was wondering why a fully functioning ie was on my desk in ubuntu heh
[09:33] <concept10> I was checking some of the goals for the next Ubuntu release and I am trying to move Fedora's system-config-services to ubuntu
[09:33] <Fator_Dee> Seveas: and you can include multimedia player to the list too :-)
[09:33] <Seveas> hehe
[09:33] <gezanda> hi...i use ubvuntu hoary rc, last version...i'm from italy...how i can install java for this system???with java in internet i can't instead i think ai can use the shell...somebody can help me???
[09:33] <tritium> zxc, winetools from winehq.com will get IE6 installed
[09:33] <pablo928>  R0bNyc, yes
[09:33] <tritium> (it requires the version of wine that's also from winehq.com)
[09:34] <Seveas> gezanda, download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-pacake and run make-jpkg java_bin_filename
[09:34] <Seveas> that creates a .deb which you can install with dpkg
[09:34] <gezanda> thanks a lot
[09:34] <K_Dallas> should one uses -force with dpkg
[09:35] <tritium> not usually, why?
[09:35] <K_Dallas> i meant for installing that java
[09:35] <Seveas> K_Dallas, only when problems arise
[09:35] <concept10> anyone familar with using alien?
[09:35] <carthik_munch> Can the nautilus CD burner burn DVDs successfully? Has anyone tried it here?
[09:35] <Seveas> concept10, yes
[09:35] <tritium> concept10, are there not .debs of the software you want?  What are you looking for?
[09:35] <xukun> anybody using freenx and hoary?
[09:36] <eivind> I have downloaded ubuntu 5.04 livecd, but it hangs under language configuration. Anyone knows whats cause this?
[09:36] <Fator_Dee> carthik_munch: yes it does
[09:36] <carthik_munch> Fator_Dee, thanks, I am going to take the plunge in a bit :)
[09:36] <Fator_Dee> but if you want to be sure try with an rw first :-)
[09:36] <gezanda> my shell says that it's impossible tu find java-pacake
[09:36] <zenlunatic> how can i stop my irc from lagging out when i apt-get large files?
[09:36] <tovella> concept10: when I can't find a particular deb, i use checkinstall to make one from the source code... it's easy.
[09:36] <tritium> gezanda, please do follow Seveas advice, rather than ubuntuguide's.
[09:37] <Bladlus> Hi. When trying to play a file in rhythmbox, it fails and I get this error in the console: Got error opening "file://.....mp3": Could not pause playback
[09:37] <Bladlus> Could anyone help me?
[09:37] <tritium> gezanda, java-package is in multiverse.  Do you have that enabled?
[09:37] <gezanda> yes
[09:37] <john6000> wow linus has a company linus trovaldus
[09:37] <john6000> http://www.transmeta.com/
[09:37] <concept10> tritium: im trying to move a red hat specific program from fedora core to Ubuntu/Debian.  Trying to complete a goal of the next Ubuntu releasre
[09:37] <jeroen_> john6000, that's not Linus Torvalds' company, he used to work there
[09:38] <john6000> oh
[09:38] <john6000> thanks
[09:38] <tritium> gezanda, you should probably do a "sudo apt-get update" then.  If you have multiverse enabled, you should find it
[09:38] <jeroen_> john6000, he doesn't work there anymore though
[09:38] <john6000> ok
[09:38] <john6000> know him?
[09:38] <jeroen_> no
[09:38] <john6000> how does he make money?
[09:38] <jeroen_> read his book though
[09:38] <Svart> does anyone know how to play movies using the ubuntu live cd(warty)?
[09:38] <john6000> ok
[09:38] <jeroen_> he gets paid by OSDL
[09:39] <john6000> osdl?
[09:39] <Seveas> www.osdl.org
[09:39] <zenlunatic> Svart, I doubt its possible.
[09:39] <Fator_Dee> open source development lab?
[09:39] <concept10> people give him money because he is cute
[09:39] <Svart> how come?
[09:39] <tritium> concept10, I see
[09:39] <Bladlus> Does anyone know?
[09:39] <chrisss> i mounted my ntfs partition on /windows... how do i get a (non-root) user to be able to view it
[09:39] <tritium> Well, in that case, there certainly will be no .debs ;)
[09:39] <john6000> oh i see
[09:40] <concept10> tritium: no .debs is probably correct
[09:40] <Seveas> chrisss, give the good mount options :)
[09:40] <Svart> zenlunatic,  how come?
[09:40] <chrisss> ???????
[09:40] <zenlunatic> Svart, Because the livecd doesn't contain the software.
[09:40] <Gianmaria> just curious, which kernel did you chose at installation, what are the differences?
[09:40] <Seveas> chriss: a line in the fstab should look like this: /dev/hda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,uid=dennis,gid=dennis,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 0 0
[09:40] <mirak> hi
[09:40] <chrisss> ok.. thanxxx
[09:40] <Seveas> chrisss, but then with your name instead of mine :)
[09:41] <chrisss> obviously
[09:41] <mirak> I am on breezy and can't modprobe fglrx
[09:41] <Svart> it has a movie player, isnt it a bit moronic to include a movieplayer but no codecs?
[09:41] <mirak> what should I do ?
[09:41] <Seveas> mirak, there is no linux-restricted-modules package for breezy yet
[09:41] <jeroen_> john6000, http://www.osdl.org/newsroom/press_releases/2003/2003_06_17_beaverton.html
[09:41] <topyli> mirak: get a stable distribution? :)
[09:41] <Seveas> switching to breezy is also very unadvisable
[09:41] <mirak> Seveas: can I compile it from source ?
[09:41] <Seveas> mirak, if you don't know these basic things, DON'T use breezy...
[09:42] <Seveas> it's gonna be much more unstable the next weeks
[09:42] <mirak> Seveas: I have done it already on mandrake and debian, but I want to know how it is on ubuntu
[09:42] <zenlunatic> Svart, its not moronic its due to patent issues.
[09:43] <chrisss> fk Thank You!!!
[09:43] <mirak> it's too late I can't switch back
[09:43] <chrisss> s/fk/NULL
[09:43] <zxc> how do you open an file in terminal
[09:43] <thenuke> zxc: depends on a file :o
[09:43] <Seveas> zxc, define 'open a file'
[09:43] <Fator_Dee> zxc: what kind of file
[09:43] <Seveas> cat filename is a way :o)
[09:43] <mirak> so any hint ?
[09:43] <Seveas> mirak, yeah: reinstall hoary
[09:44] <zxc> it's a Mathematica "executable" - in properties it says Shell Script
[09:44] <mirak> Seveas: no it will take ages and I will loose my config
[09:44] <Seveas> zxc, ./MathInstaller
[09:44] <thenuke> mirak: Just do not use breezy if you dont have what it takes :D
[09:44] <butcher_> hi
[09:44] <Fator_Dee> mirak: you could save you configs somewhere
[09:44] <Svart> zenlunatic, I am well aware of that, but I would really like to watch som movies before i get my new computer and the Totem is teasing me with its inability to play stuff..
[09:44] <zxc> Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[09:44] <zxc> Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default
[09:44] <zxc> Caught 'Segmentation Fault', shutting down
[09:44] <topyli> mirak: ubuntu's development versions are (at this point of the release cycle) much more unstable than debian unstable
[09:45] <zxc> any idea how to sort that out?
[09:45] <Fator_Dee> mirak: email them to yourself for an example :-p
[09:45] <Svart> zenlunatic, wich makes me one frustrated user
[09:45] <mirak> Fator_Dee: I have of course antoher partition
[09:45] <mirak> that's not the problem
[09:46] <mirak> anyway fglrx is an issue even on hoary because it's not updated always along the kernel
[09:46] <mirak> not now of course, but it was
[09:46] <Seveas> zxc, mathematica installed fine for me, try setting your locale to C or english before installing
[09:46] <mirak> :)
[09:46] <mirak> anyway there is no reason to not learn
[09:46] <zxc> how do I set my locale to C? it's in UK English :/
[09:46] <zenlunatic> Svart, hopefully you'll learn where to place the blame
[09:47] <Svart> he :)
[09:48] <mirak> by the way ot's not wise to say use hoary since you just can't reply yourself to the question
[09:48] <mirak> just don't reply
[09:49] <mirak> if you don't know
[09:49] <tritium> mirak, it is wise to suggest that you use Hoary.  In fact, did you read the topic?
[09:50] <tritium> You're asked to please not use Breezy yet.
[09:50] <mirak> I probably read it
[09:50] <mirak> one day
[09:50] <Seveas> zxc, are you still ther, sorri, i was busy...
[09:50] <tritium> mirak, it changes from time to time
[09:50] <mirak> anyway I will just rebuild the module
[09:50] <mirak> lol
[09:50] <mirak> that's not very hard
[09:51] <mirak> I just though I could go a bit faster by having just an hint
[09:51] <mirak> but no
[09:51] <tritium> mirak, Seveas gave you the needed hint regarding the lack of linux-restricted-modules
[09:52] <mirak> apt-cache search fglrx helped me
[09:52] <Seveas> mirak, it's not possible to give hints on using breezy, it's too unstable for that
[09:52] <mirak> but in fact I tried to get the source
[09:52] <cavedive1> Hmm.. When is the right-click on mp3-file bug gonna be fixed ?
[09:52] <Seveas> we don't even know whether fglrx can work with the current kernel
[09:52] <mirak> apt-get source fglrx-kernel-src tried to load the full 44Mb of sources
[09:52] <mirak> in fact I just need to install the sources
[09:52] <mirak> I mean the src package
[09:53] <mirak> I didn't knew that
[09:53] <mirak> it was my question in fact :)
[09:53] <mirak> Seveas: mmm why not ?
[09:53] <mirak> Seveas: I will tell you then
[09:54] <mirak> the way how modules are bound to the kernel is anoying in linux
[09:54] <Fator_Dee> is there an image viewing program that can handle image files inside zip,rar,tar,etc... files?
[09:55] <Fator_Dee> so that I wouldn't have to extract the,
[09:55] <Fator_Dee> *them
[09:55] <Seveas> Fator_Dee, use archive manager for that
[09:56] <Seveas> they have to be extracted transparently anyway and archivemanager can do that
[09:56] <Fator_Dee> lets see
[09:56] <mirak> ok module-assistant wont help ^^
[09:57] <Fator_Dee> Seveas: well it works (kind of) but you have to open every file separately :-\
[09:57] <mirak> I have installed the sources, and it put them in /usr/src/ and I extracted and it was put accordingly in /usr/src/modules
[09:57] <Fator_Dee> I mean, you can't browse the archive with the viewer which makes it a hassle
[09:57] <mirak> is it normal that module-assistant doesn't list it ?
[09:57] <Seveas> Fator_Dee, can't nautilus look inzide compressed files (i dont use nautilus too much, so i could be telling rubbish here)
[09:58] <Fator_Dee> I use xfce
[09:58] <Seveas> mirak, for unstable os'es yes
[09:58] <Seveas> there the unexpected is as normal as the expected
[09:59] <mirak> I just ask if it's like that on hoary then
[09:59] <mirak> but you just don't know
[09:59] <mirak> so why doing phylosophy ?
[09:59] <Seveas> on hoary there is linux-restricted-modules :)
[09:59] <Seveas> (and yes, on hoaru module-assistant works too)
[09:59] <mirak> with fglrx ?
[09:59] <Seveas> yes
[09:59] <savio[ubu] > hi all
[09:59] <savio[ubu] > http://www.ubuntuitalia.it/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=47&func=view&id=4782&catid=15 <--- can you help me?
[10:00] <Fator_Dee> Seveas: and it seems nautilus can't see inside compressed files
[10:00] <savio[ubu] > how can i change splash screen in ubuntu?
[10:00] <Seveas> savio[ubu] , which splash screen: grub, gdm, an application?
[10:00] <lolobd> how can i close the X session?
[10:00] <savio[ubu] > gnome
[10:00] <Seveas> lolobd, what do you mean
[10:01] <lolobd> I mean, get to a shell without having X running on another
[10:01] <Seveas> savio[ubu] , the login screen or the screen that shows progress between hitting the logging button and having a complete desktop?
[10:01] <zenlunatic> any reason why apt-get would stop downloading large packages in the middle of progress?
[10:01] <qs^chaoticoz> hey there :>
[10:01] <Seveas> lolobd, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:01] <nanot3ch> hey, does anyone know of a plugin for XMMS like the Gaim System Tray icon?
[10:01] <savio[ubu] > Seveas: two
[10:01] <Seveas> zenlunatic, network problems maybe?
[10:01] <Dalkus> zenlunatic, maybe your internet connection got interupted
[10:01] <lolobd> thanks seveas ill try that
[10:01] <Fator_Dee> zenlunatic: network problem? not enough disk space?
[10:02] <zenlunatic> Guys, I'm on irc with the same connection.
[10:02] <Seveas> lol :)
[10:02] <Fator_Dee> on the other end
[10:02] <Fator_Dee> the network problem
[10:02] <Seveas> but network can have problems at ubuntu's end or somewhere in between
[10:02] <neighborlee> how does ubuntu legally make the nvidia-glx available ,,as in im told its not distributable for free ..i'm being told this by a OP in #mandriva..???
[10:03] <Seveas> savio[ubu] , doesn't system->preferences->theme help?
[10:03] <savio[ubu] > Seveas:  ok :)
[10:03] <Dalkus> neighborlee, it is distrubuted for free, its just not open source - I think
[10:03] <savio[ubu] > for cursors of mouse?
[10:03] <savio[ubu] > (Excuse-me for my english, but, i'm italian boy :(
[10:03] <Dalkus> he neabs free as in freedom, not beer.
[10:03] <neighborlee> Dalkus, that was my understanding
[10:03] <Seveas> savio[ubu] , install gcursor for that
[10:03] <savio[ubu] > devo
[10:03] <savio[ubu] > gcursor
[10:03] <savio[ubu] > apt-get install gcursor?
[10:03] <savio[ubu] > :P
[10:04] <Seveas> yes
[10:04] <Seveas> Dalkus, you're right
[10:04] <Seveas> there are some binary-only parts
[10:04] <Dalkus> :)
[10:05] <dash> heh what's going on with the dbus package in breezy
[10:05] <Seveas> dash, massive api breakage
[10:06] <Seveas> so yeah, breezy is broken :)
[10:06] <dash> wooooo
[10:06] <dash> guess i'll upgrade later, then! :D
[10:06] <Seveas> read the changelog: * New upstream version, now with 97% more api breakage
[10:06] <dash> awesome
[10:06] <Amaranth> the new dbus should be the last major API change
[10:06] <Seveas> well
[10:06] <Seveas> apart from c++
[10:06] <dash> Amaranth: this time for sure! ;)
[10:07] <Amaranth> appearently the hope is that this version + bugfixes can be 1.0
[10:07] <crimsun> until the next big api change!
[10:07] <Seveas> but that's an abi change :)
[10:07] <Seveas> o you mean just dbus, i thought you meant in breezy ;)
[10:07] <AElfwine> hi
[10:07] <Amaranth> yeah, just dbus
[10:07] <dash> ok, i will be patient ;) thanks
[10:09] <AElfwine> is it possible to make ubuntu compatible with windows encoding (non UTF-8) ? Some music files looks ugly :(
[10:09] <neighborlee> nm
[10:09] <zenlunatic> wtf my apt timed out on ubuntu.com repositories
[10:10] <Fator_Dee> zenlunatic: it got bored
[10:10] <Seveas> lol :)
[10:10] <Amaranth> zenlunatic: Welcome to the internet. :)
[10:10] <Fator_Dee> In case of doubt, make a joke
[10:13] <evilmegaman> anyone hear me?
[10:13] <AElfwine> no
[10:13] <evilmegaman> ok good :)
[10:13] <evilmegaman> just had to see if anyone can respond to me
[10:13] <Seveas> no, shout a little harder please :)
[10:14] <evilmegaman> My internet connection keeps going out so I have to make sure that I am still connected ;)
[10:14] <Seveas> evilmegaman, keep a ping/mtr/bwm running in a terminal :)
[10:15] <zxc> Seveas, I went afk but what does it mean by "Local C or whatever" it relation to Mathematica
[10:15] <evilmegaman> Ok :) thanks
[10:15] <abarbaccia> hey all - i want to learn how to get involved with ubuntu development - can someone help me out with a good way to start?
[10:16] <crimsun> abarbaccia: you're in u-motu, no?
[10:16] <Seveas> zxc, the locale is the language in which everything is displayed
[10:16] <zxc> hmm, I'm running English UK, so I guess I'll have to change this to Americano? And if so how?
[10:16] <Seveas> zxc, try: LOCALE=EN_us ./MathInstaller
[10:16] <Seveas> on one line
[10:16] <abarbaccia> crimsun, yes - but i dont know where to start
[10:17] <zxc> I'm not installing but yeah I'm running
[10:17] <Seveas> ah ok
[10:17] <Seveas> it installed fine?
[10:17] <crimsun> abarbaccia: there's a page on the wiki outlining how to contribute
[10:17] <zxc> Yup
[10:17] <abarbaccia> crimsun, it would be great if someone would let me like tag along - or package something easy so i can learn the process
[10:17] <crimsun> abarbaccia: also, wiki/DeveloperResources
[10:17] <Seveas> i only had the problem that all fonts looked extremely ugly in mathematica
[10:17] <crimsun> abarbaccia: are you in u-love?
[10:18] <zxc> well, I installed it to zxc/home/ as it wouldn't install properly in usr/local/ but apart from that it was fine
[10:18] <abarbaccia> crimsun, no, not yet
[10:18] <Seveas> does LOCALE=EN_us ./Mathematica work?
[10:19] <zxc> Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[10:19] <zxc> Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default
[10:19] <zxc> Caught 'Segmentation Fault', shutting down
[10:19] <zxc> same error
[10:19] <neighborlee> can someone PLEASE say how its legal for ubuntu/debian to offer the nvidia-glx legally??
[10:19] <Seveas> neighborlee, afaik it IS legal to redistibute it
[10:20] <crimsun> neighborlee: it says so in the license
[10:20] <neighborlee> welll this nut in #mandriva says otherwise
[10:20] <Seveas> can you give me an authoritative source that proves me wrong?
[10:20] <crimsun> neighborlee: that nut is wrong
[10:20] <Seveas> #mandriva is not an authoritative source...
[10:20] <neighborlee> crimsun, I thought so
[10:20] <Seveas> why beleive them and not us?
[10:20] <abarbaccia> crimsun, okay - im going to read on the wiki some - thanks for the advice/link
[10:20] <ivoks> crimsun one can find you everywhere :)
[10:20] <crimsun> ivoks: :)
[10:23] <resiak> neighborlee: Read its license?
[10:23] <zxc> hmm, you know Ubuntu (not the login in screen) but when you actually physically press enter a brown blank screen pops up. Anyway of changing the colour?
[10:23] <neighborlee> resiak, I never did as I trust debian to do the right thing
[10:23] <Recyclable> yo doods
[10:24] <neighborlee> resiak, I know how anal they are about license so <G>
[10:24] <resiak> neighborlee: So do I, but I'm just saying that that's the authoritative source.
[10:24] <Seveas> 2.1.2 Linux/FreeBSD Exception. Notwithstanding the foregoing terms of Section 2.1.1, SOFTWARE designed exclusively for use on the Linux or FreeBSD operating systems, or other operating systems derived from the source code to these operating systems, may be copied and redistributed, provided that the binary files thereof are not modified in any way (except for unzipping of compressed files).
[10:24] <Seveas> verbatim copy from the license
[10:24] <Recyclable> guys, i'm having a real problem in getting the flashplayer plugin installed for firefox.
[10:24] <aVeedo> are you running 64?
[10:24] <Recyclable> yes
[10:25] <Recyclable> A64
[10:25] <aVeedo> I have the same problem
[10:25] <Recyclable> 3000+
[10:25] <Recyclable> aha.
[10:25] <zxc> Recyclable, pretty sure it doesn't work on AMD64
[10:25] <Seveas> indeed
[10:25] <zxc> along with Realplayer
[10:25] <Recyclable> :\\
[10:25] <Recyclable> why not?
[10:25] <AElfwine> I had the same pb, until I decided to install i86
[10:25] <AElfwine> x86
[10:25] <aVeedo> I saw a wiki for gentoo that made it owkr on 64
[10:25] <Recyclable> :(
[10:25] <March-RX8> hello
[10:25] <Recyclable> that am the sucks
[10:26] <aVeedo> so it's possible, but I don't know of any specific tutorials for ubuntu
[10:26] <Recyclable> k
[10:26] <aVeedo> sucks, doesnt it
[10:26] <ivoks> heh
[10:26] <Recyclable> yes.
[10:26] <Seveas> hello March-RX8
[10:26] <Recyclable> No weebl and bob for meeee :'(
[10:26] <Seveas> aaaaahh, weebl & bob :o)
[10:26] <zxc> xD
[10:26] <Recyclable> yes :D
[10:26] <Seveas> PIE!
[10:26] <Recyclable> try pie, try
[10:27] <Seveas> but let's stay on-topic here :)
[10:27] <Recyclable> heard about ubuntu through weebl forums :P
[10:27] <resiak> Piepiepiepiepiepiepie!
[10:27] <Recyclable> want pie now!
[10:27] <Recyclable> :P
[10:27] <Seveas> lol, so it is on topic now :)
[10:27] <Recyclable> yes
[10:27] <Recyclable> hahaha
[10:27] <topyli> humans need pie
[10:27] <Recyclable> yes
[10:27] <aVeedo> french silk pie
[10:28] <{Cricket}> Hey guys got a question... I have a friend that is using ubuntu and hes having trouble with jre in the .bin filetype it is having trouble extracting the .bin and therefore won't let him continue with the installation of jre what file is it that he needs to get to make it able to extract the .bin correctly?
[10:28] <Seveas> {Cricket}, install java-package and run make-jpkg filename_of_java_bin
[10:28] <Seveas> then dpkg -i the_created_debfile
[10:28] <{Cricket}> thanks Seveas =)
[10:28] <topyli> yes
[10:28] <Mahl> Hey its me again :P Is there any way to convert my fat32 disk to linux fs without loosing data within linux?
[10:29] <lolobd> I am trying to get my tvout working, i made a device2, monitor2 and layout2 on my xorg.conf file for the tv, but when i startx with layout2, it still goes to the lcd monitor.. could this depend on the BusID parameter?
[10:29] <Seveas> that's impossible Mahl
[10:29] <topyli> Mahl: no
[10:29] <Mahl> damn
[10:29] <Mahl> So I would have to make all backup first
[10:29] <aVeedo> Borrow a hardrive
[10:29] <usynic> any of you use mplayer-plugin ?
[10:29] <Recyclable> hmmmm
[10:29] <topyli> Mahl: that's a good idea :)
[10:29] <Mahl> the delete partition and convert to linuxfs
[10:29] <neighborlee> Seveas, i'm not a lawyer but that would seem to indicate that its legal..is that your take ?
[10:29] <Mahl> then copy over files?
[10:30] <Kano> hi
[10:30] <topyli> Mahl: yes
[10:30] <Recyclable> couldn't he bring the filesover from the fat32 to linux then delete fat32
[10:30] <Recyclable> brb gotta make lunch
[10:30] <Seveas> neighborlee, it says that it is legal to distribute the binary files in .debs or .rpms
[10:30] <Seveas> so the #mandriva guys talk bull[censored]
[10:30] <Kano> could anyone tell me if there are kernel patches for hp laptop support in the kernel?
[10:30] <neighborlee> Seveas, that my take as well yes
[10:30] <Mahl> well its about a hundred gigs
[10:30] <neighborlee> Seveas, agred
[10:30] <neighborlee> agreed
[10:30] <Seveas> Kano, what do you need to see supported
[10:31] <Seveas> Kano, my HP works fine without patches
[10:31] <zxc> would a swap improve my performance on games like flightgear?
[10:31] <neighborlee> Seveas, LOL
[10:31] <Seveas> zxc, very likely
[10:31] <topyli> Seveas: it doesn't say that. otherwise, debian would probably distribute it in non-free
[10:31] <Kano> Seveas: i just want to know, i have no hp, but some said some button would work with ubuntu
[10:31] <zxc> how do I create a swap now (after install)
[10:31] <IcemanV9> usynic: mplayer-plugin runs just fine on my box
[10:32] <usynic> IcemanV9: works fine on mine too... but I notied the latest version doesn't have stop/play/fullscreen buttons
[10:32] <Seveas> topyli, then where do you see that it;s not allowed????
[10:32] <usynic> IcemanV9: how do you operate it?
[10:32] <Mahl> Oh well im buying a 250 gig hdd anyhow
[10:32] <Slee> hi
[10:32] <Seveas> Kano, there is a little userlevel trick needed for the volume and lock buttons
[10:32] <goldfish> hi Slee
[10:32] <Seveas> but no kernel patches
[10:32] <IcemanV9> usynic: ah. dunno about that one.
[10:32] <usynic> IcemanV9: mplayer hotkeys don't work either
[10:32] <Slee> can I ask a quesiton here?
[10:32] <Kano> Seveas: could you tell it to me?
[10:32] <goldfish> Slee: Of course.
[10:32] <Seveas> Slee, yes
[10:33] <Slee> I've just burnt ubuntu 5.04 on CD
[10:33] <Seveas> Kano, sure, but there's a webpage that explains it better, hang on
[10:33] <IcemanV9> usynic: didn't go far -- i was satisified with it for now :)
[10:33] <topyli> Seveas: i'd have to check the license to answer that. i'm only trusting debian policy here :)
[10:33] <Slee> and tried to install, but the installer don't recognize my partitions
[10:33] <Seveas> topyli, bad call
[10:33] <Slee> is this known problem?
[10:33] <Seveas> debian legal is filled with fanatists
[10:33] <topyli> true
[10:33] <topyli> but wise too
[10:34] <Seveas> Kano, http://www.cs.duke.edu/~reynolds/nc6000-linux.html it's just for that type though
[10:34] <Seveas> but google is your friend for other types :)
[10:34] <Slee> I have a mandrake currently, and I'd like to erase the partition mounted at / and replace it with unbuntu
[10:34] <Seveas> topyli, go and read the nvidia license
[10:34] <Seveas> it's very short
[10:34] <Seveas> http://www.nvidia.com/object/nv_swlicense.html
[10:34] <Slee> any idea?
[10:35] <Kano> Seveas: the whole trick is using xmodmap?
[10:35] <Seveas> and setkeycodes
[10:35] <aVeedo> If you want ot install it over your old mandrake (loosing all your stuff) then just install it.
[10:35] <Seveas> xmodmap isnt even needed
[10:35] <Seveas> the gnome config tool can handle the raw keys
[10:36] <Kano> Seveas: i do not use gnome
[10:36] <Seveas> Kano, maybe xfce ot kde tools recognize it too, no idea about that
[10:36] <k9mateo> its secure Ubuntu??
[10:36] <Seveas> k9mateo, by default: very secure
[10:36] <topyli> Seveas: see 2.1: customer may install a single copy of the software on a single computer,, and may not .. copy the software
[10:36] <k9mateo> ok...thanks
[10:37] <Seveas> topyli, see 2.1.2: the linux exception :)
[10:37] <topyli> ah
[10:37] <Slee> (goldfish): you remain silent?
[10:37] <Seveas> that's what i pasted here
[10:37] <Kano> too easy... but thanks for info
[10:37] <eob84> has anone been able to configure bootsplash on ubuntu?
[10:37] <k9mateo> too easy???
[10:38] <topyli> Seveas: oh yes. modification is questionable though, beyond unzipping their binaries
[10:38] <Seveas> eob84, grub bootsplash?
[10:38] <Kano> Seveas: i thought it might be more complex
[10:38] <Seveas> topyli, and more isn't needed to create debs :)
[10:38] <eob84> Seveas, yes
[10:38] <topyli> Seveas: too fuzzy for debian :)
[10:38] <Seveas> eob84, there's excellent info about that on the wiki
[10:38] <zxc> when you use synaptic when should the packages appear in your gnome thingy. As it seems to happen randomly, like one day a Debian Section appeared with all the stuff I've got...
[10:39] <Seveas> topyli, as i said: debian legal is filled with fanatists
[10:39] <Seveas> ;)
[10:39] <dockane> if there is any bug in hdparm or problems with that tool regarding the intel carmel chipset, where should i find it ?
[10:39] <blake> helow
[10:39] <blake> what is the command to run rpm's
[10:39] <Seveas> zxc, it depends on the package
[10:39] <topyli> Seveas: and i said, true :)
[10:39] <blake> is it
[10:39] <blake> rpm -U webmin-1.200-1.noarch.rpm
[10:39] <Kano> bye
[10:39] <eob84> Seveas, not sure what you mean by that
[10:39] <Seveas> blake, there is none
[10:39] <blake> damn how do i run them
[10:39] <Kano> thanks for help
[10:39] <Seveas> blake, convert it to a deb with alien and run dpkg. But are you sure there is no deb?
[10:40] <Seveas> blake, what are you trying to install?
[10:40] <blake> webmin
[10:40] <blake> 1.2
[10:40] <Seveas> eob84, go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search there
[10:40] <Seveas> blake, that is in the reposiitories
[10:40] <blake> i know
[10:40] <Seveas> ah, 1.180
[10:40] <blake> but i'm not sure how to install it from the repositories
[10:41] <zxc> Seveas, in what way?
[10:41] <blake> there is too many of them
[10:41] <Seveas> that's easy blake:
[10:41] <blake> actually i did install it from there
[10:41] <Sauron21> hi..I was wondering if glib and libc6(I am not sure this is ther right name) is the same thing?
[10:41] <blake> and now i can't fid it
[10:41] <Seveas> just pick the webmin base and all the modules you need
[10:41] <blake> lol
[10:41] <evilmegaman> Is there a howto on how to compile your own kernel?
[10:41] <Seveas> zxc, some packages define menu entries, some don't
[10:42] <blake> so i downloaded the rpm thinking it would be easyer
[10:42] <Seveas> evilmegaman, on the wiki
[10:42] <evilmegaman> ok cool
[10:42] <evilmegaman> Thanks seveas
[10:42] <Seveas> blake, it will NOT be easier, it will be more evil :)
[10:42] <Fator_Dee> Sauron21: no, if they would be the same they would have the same name
[10:42] <zxc> Seveas, but they're all defined under "Run"?
[10:42] <Seveas> Sauron21, libc6 = core system functions glib = graphical functions
[10:43] <Seveas> zxc yes, and from a terminal :)
[10:43] <topyli> Seveas: anyway, it's good to be careful with legal stuff boys when you are a poor non-profit project
[10:43] <agent> anyone get qemu 7.0 to compile?
[10:43] <Seveas> topyli, absolutely
[10:43] <k9mateo> insmod for the AWE64???????    is very very old.......
[10:43] <k9mateo> isa
[10:43] <Sauron21> well...I have been trying to install acouple of programs...and all I get is that I lack GTK+ - version >= 2.0.0... ....but I know I have it installed....
[10:43] <eob84> Seveas, there is nothing on bootsplash.... just usplash
[10:43] <Seveas> Sauron21, do you try to compile them or run apt-get/synaptic?
[10:43] <Seveas> eob84, hang on
[10:44] <Sauron21> compile....
[10:44] <Seveas> Sauron21, install libgtk2-dev
[10:44] <Seveas> libgtk2.0-dev even
[10:45] <Sauron21> ...installing
[10:45] <davidr> anyone else forced to uninstall dom-inspector w/ the firefox security patch?
[10:45] <davidr> i was going to file a bug
[10:46] <Seveas> eob84, sorry, it was on the forum: www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:46] <eob84> oh
[10:46] <whyz> oi, what's the commandline package manager in ubuntu called?
[10:46] <webmind> apt-get ?
[10:46] <webmind> or dpkg ?
[10:46] <franklin50> whyz: apt-get
[10:46] <whyz> ok..
[10:46] <Seveas> apt-get is the package-download-and-install tool
[10:46] <Seveas> dpkg is the install-this-deb tool
[10:46] <franklin50> it's amazing!
[10:47] <Seveas> apt-get uses dpkg internally :)
[10:47] <Seveas> whyz, you might want to try aptitude too
[10:47] <Seveas> it has an ncurses interface
[10:47] <whyz> what's the switch for searching with apt-get?
[10:47] <Seveas> (that means a gui-like interface in the terminal)
[10:47] <Seveas> apt-cache search
[10:47] <whyz> okidoki, thanks
[10:47] <Seveas> so not apt-get :)
[10:47] <Kejk_PL> is in Ubuntu aptitude?
[10:47] <Seveas> yes
[10:48] <Kejk_PL> so Aptitude is good idea for someone without XP with apt
[10:48] <Seveas> synaptic would be better
[10:48] <Seveas> but that's just gui
[10:48] <Kejk_PL> hehe, yes, I forgot :)
[10:49] <whyz> i'm trying to configure lufs, but it says it can't find kernel headers.. but the kernel headers are installed according to synaptic
[10:50] <admx> Try linux-headers
[10:50] <anto9us> anyonw know, is it possible to sync my ipaq hx4700 with ubuntu?
[10:50] <mirak> whyz: I think you must create a link
[10:50] <Seveas> k9mateo, bothering people privately is quite impolite, please don't do that
[10:50] <mirak> from linux to the headers
[10:50] <Kejk_PL> I have one question about synaptic: Do it support nine feature like in aptitude, when I am unninstaling software, it removes unneded packges too?
[10:50] <Seveas> whyz, lufs is in hoary too
[10:50] <eob84> Seveas, thanx... as it turns out there is a glitch in the 2.6.10 kernel that causes vesafb to mess up
[10:50] <mirak>  linux -> linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/
[10:51] <carthik> I just wrote a dvd using Nautilus, but Windows XP refuses to acknowledge the presence of data on the DVD - what did I do wrong?
[10:51] <mirak> Seveas: do you know how I can make appear a module in module assistant ?
[10:51] <Seveas> and if you want to compile it yourself, you need to apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:51] <eob84> Seveas, atleast only for the debian release
[10:51] <k9mateo> ok.....sorry
[10:51] <eob84> Seveas, is it easy to compile 2.6.11 on ubuntu?
[10:51] <carthik> Fator_Dee, I wrote the DVD, but it is not recognized in Win XP. would you know why?
[10:51] <mirak> Seveas: I have added a file in /var/cache/modass
[10:51] <Seveas> eob84, i believe it is available in universe
[10:52] <k9mateo> not wise it
[10:52] <eob84> Seveas, it is
[10:52] <Seveas> mirak, please note that i can and will not help people who use breezy since that's undoable. Sorry.
[10:52] <eob84> Seveas, just wondering if it compiled?
[10:52] <k9mateo> sorry, seveas
[10:52] <mirak> Seveas: I could be on hoary and ask this question too
[10:52] <Seveas> download the source and find out eob84. Its presence in the archive means it's compilable :)
[10:52] <mirak> Seveas: I don't ask you to resolve my problem
[10:52] <Seveas> mirak, but i know you are not
[10:53] <eob84> Seveas, none the less, thanx for your help... I may be able to fix my problem
[10:53] <mirak> Seveas: so what ? I can still learn valuable informations
[10:53] <mirak> Seveas: about how module assistant works for exemple
[10:53] <Seveas> mirak, there are manpages too...
[10:54] <mirak> Seveas: true
[10:54] <mirak> Seveas: but if you don't know just say it
[10:54] <cirkit_> hey  just got fluxbox in ubuntu with apt-get but im having a problem....there is no .xinitrc file in ubuntu???
[10:55] <dabaSlon> .
[10:55] <Seveas> ,
[10:55] <Fator_Dee> ;
[10:55] <Seveas> :
[10:55] <dabaSlon> haha
[10:55] <dabaSlon> no...
[10:55] <chavo> cirkit_, just create the .xinitrc.
[10:56] <cirkit_> will ~/.fluxbox/startup work the same?
[10:56] <chavo> echo fluxbox > ~/.xinitrc
[10:56] <blake> how do i open apache?
[10:56] <whyz> using apt-get/cache or whatever, how do i see if a package is already installed or not?
[10:56] <Seveas> blake, what do you mean?
[10:56] <Fator_Dee> carthik: sorry, don't know why
[10:56] <blake> wil it be in applications
[10:56] <blake> ??
[10:56] <blake> i mean will it be in apps
[10:56] <Seveas> whyz, dpkg -l | less, or search for it in synaptic
[10:56] <chavo> cirkit_, you using gdm?
[10:56] <blake> the tolbar
[10:56] <Sauron21> Seveas: it worked thx
[10:56] <cirkit_> yeah
[10:57] <Fator_Dee> carthik: does it work in ubuntu?
[10:57] <dabaSlon> blake: it is a daemon, runs at boot.
[10:57] <blake> i might have it installed already it i can't find it
[10:57] <Seveas> blake, apache is a server, you have to configure it and start it
[10:57] <Fator_Dee> (I assume yes, but...)
[10:57] <Seveas> you'll never see it
[10:57] <dabaSlon> open your browser, point to localhost...
[10:57] <chavo> ok, I'm not sure how to autostart apps for fluxbox.
[10:57] <Seveas> unless you go to your website
[10:57] <dabaSlon> that will open your apache process on your computer.