[21:20] <Dr_Willis> tase:  you could also try entering the share path directly in the filemanager address bar. ie:  smb://servername/sharename   or use the  ip of the server instead of its name
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> tase:  ive found windows fileshareing to get flakier every year. :)
[21:20] <tase> yea i can see that
[21:21] <tase> Dr_Willis, how do I enter a path in the filemanager ?
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> win7 adds all sorts of things that seem to break other things.
[21:21] <zertyu> i got a small question, i got a permission issue on my system, i got two user on my system :  userone and usertwo , i got a group called admin1, there is a which is folder1, if i ls -al floder1 : i got this : drwxr-xr-x  5 user1 user1     4096 2011-05-07 17:26 folder1, now i m logged in on that folder1 using ftp client but i can't read write execute, what i have to, like my user2 able to...
[21:21] <zertyu> ...read, write excute on that folder1 too ?
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> tase:  ctrl-l I think to show the URL bar.
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> thats a L as in Location
[21:22] <aximili> hey there !
[21:22] <Alexrcol> Is there any way to restore Windows Vista to factory condition without killing Ubuntu?
[21:22] <aximili> Can somebody help me please ?
[21:22] <Captainkrtek> aximili, sure
[21:22] <aximili> i have a driver mouse problem
[21:22] <aximili> i just install natty narwhal
[21:22] <aximili> and when I boot it, my mouse just don't do anything
[21:22] <nowat> anyone have any idea why an ubuntu server USB drive would load me into a password protected CentOS shell?
[21:22] <D3luSi0n4L> Anyone got a mintue to help me with cleaning GPT data
[21:23] <D3luSi0n4L> I found through a search that the reason 11.04 was giving me no root file system found was stray GPT data
[21:23] <zertyu> i  got a small question, i got a permission issue on my system, i got two user on my system : userone and usertwo , i got a group called admin1, there is a which is folder1, if i ls -al floder1 : i got this : drwxr-xr-x 5 user1 user1 4096 2011-05-07 17:26 folder1, now i m logged in on that folder1 using ftp client but i can't read write execute, what i have to, like my user2 able to read,...
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> nowat:  how are you knowing its a centos shell?
[21:23] <zertyu> ...write excute on that folder1 too ?
[21:23] <trism> stravant: yes, that is fine, the problem seems to be that it is not finding the glib libraries, I don't know why that is
[21:23] <D3luSi0n4L> so i found this - program caled "FixParts" but i dont know how to use it
[21:23] <D3luSi0n4L> http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[21:24] <Alexrcol> Is there any way to restore Windows Vista to factory condition without killing Ubuntu?
[21:24] <aximili> i think i need drivers, but i can't install new packages, because my connexion is cut, and i don't know how to connect...
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> Alexrcol:  you can always reinstall the grub bootloader. assuming your method of reinstalling windows does not whipe the whole disks.
[21:24] <S4RY> Alexrcol: Ubuntu -live CD might do it.
[21:25] <nowat> Dr_Willis, I can load it up in a second and give you a better answer but it load up asking for a password saying "CentOS something or other" then asks for username//pw
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> Alexrcol:  ive seen factory restore disks that whipet the whole hard drive.. and otehrs that dont.
[21:25] <Alexrcol> Dr_Willis,i'm pretty sure it wipes out the whole drive.
[21:25] <Alexrcol> :S
[21:25] <zertyu>  i  got a small question, i got a permission issue on my system, i got two user on my system : userone and usertwo , i got a group called admin1, there is a which is folder1, if i ls -al floder1 : i got this : drwxr-xr-x 5 user1 user1 4096 2011-05-07 17:26 folder1, now i m logged in on that folder1 using ftp client but i can't read write execute, what i have to, like my user2 able to read,...
[21:25] <zertyu> ...write excute on that folder1 too ?
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> Alexrcol:  ivec seen ones that do,. and ones that dont.
[21:25] <Alexrcol> Mine probably does.
[21:25] <Alexrcol> I have a Compaq Presario PC running dual boot.
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> Alexrcol:  when in doubt make backups.
[21:26] <Alexrcol> How will I know if it kills the whole disk?
[21:26] <D_Cent>  used card
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> Alexrcol:  you can boot/run linux from a external USB hard drive. :)
[21:26] <Alexrcol> Also, how do i backup ubuntu?
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> Alexrcol:  we cant tell what it will do..
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> !backup
[21:26] <D_Cent> hi, is it possible to use an nvidia card on optimus? i've got a notebook with intel gpu and nvidia, and i cannot switch the used card - any help?
[21:27] <LinuxFetus_> Hey when I try to boot off the standard amd64 10.04.2 CD on my computer I get a blank screen after the ubuntu loading screen (purple with ubuntu letters).  My computer is an HP Elite Pavilion with an ATI 5570.  Maybe it's a video card issue?
[21:27] <DeltaEjiji> LinuxFetus_, your laptop is prob not supported.
[21:27] <DeltaEjiji> try Windows
[21:28] <Alexrcol> Dr_Willis, are there any ways to restore windows without killing ubuntu in the first place? :S
[21:28] <allu2> Hello, i'm installing ubuntu natty from minimal.iso, i installed xorg and xfce4 and i can go in xfce4 session with root but not with regular user, i installed gdm and after i press login the screen flashes and goes back to gdm, what should i do to be able to use xfce4 with non root user
[21:28] <S4RY> LinuxFetus_: you could try one of grub boot options, i've faced this issue once.
[21:28] <LinuxFetus_> DeltaEjiji, Maybe I mispoke on the model but it's actually a tower.  And 11.04 boots up but it's kind of a long story so I'm trying 10.04.
[21:29] <S4RY> LinuxFetus_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:29] <musicophiliac> Natty Narwhal is horrible
[21:29] <musicophiliac> I am rolling back to meerkat
[21:29] <froq> mushuchan, it is
[21:29] <musicophiliac> what a disaster
[21:29] <froq> musicophiliac, it is
[21:29] <allu2> musicophiliac: offtopic?
[21:29] <Chepoll> allu2, ani xfce4 is?
[21:29] <allu2> Chepoll: ?
[21:30] <D3luSi0n4L> Hey can somone help me use FixParts?
[21:30] <LinuxFetus_> S4RY, For the boot options, would I have to be using an alternative CD?
[21:30] <D3luSi0n4L> I need help clearing out stray GPT data so when I install ubuntu alongside 7 - I dont get the "no root file system detected"
[21:30] <Chepoll> allu2, what is  xfce4?
[21:30] <allu2> Chepoll: its a Desktop Environment
[21:31] <edbian> Chepoll: It is alternative to KDE, gnome, unity
[21:31] <S4RY> LinuxFetus_: Yes , iirc. for more information on this , lets check that page.
[21:32] <zertyu>  i  got a small question, i got a permission issue on my system, i got two user on my system : userone and usertwo , i got a group called admin1, there is a which is folder1, if i ls -al floder1 : i got this : drwxr-xr-x 5 user1 user1 4096 2011-05-07 17:26 folder1, now i m logged in on that folder1 using ftp client but i can't read write execute, what i have to, like my user2 able to read,...
[21:32] <zertyu> ...write excute on that folder1 too ?
[21:32] <allu2> but anyone got an ide why would xfce4 run in root but not as regular user?
[21:32] <LinuxFetus_> S4RY, Will I be able to run it live, first, from that?
[21:32] <allu2> idea*
[21:32] <JoshDreamland> os-probe and update-grub both recognize my arch partition, but update-grub doesn't add it.
[21:32] <Chepoll> allu2, ok. what login tool would u like to use?
[21:32] <S4RY> LinuxFetus_: it seems like you can dirctly edit the Grub menu.list.
[21:32] <abdullah> i am new in ubuntu
[21:32] <JoshDreamland> It justs names it in the recognized OS's, and adds two Ubuntu entries pointing to the same location.
[21:32] <abdullah> help me
[21:32] <edbian> allu2: What do you  mean 'xfce' is running as root.  xfce is the culmination of a couple of different processes
[21:33] <allu2> edbian: startxfce4 worked only as root, and gdm didn't let me login as normal user
[21:33] <allu2> edbian: but i just figured that it was because of .Iceauthority file in my /home
[21:33] <allu2> edbian: removing it fixed the problem :)
[21:33] <S4RY> LinuxFetus_: after editing boot inputline with a giving boot option , Yes , and you can install as will.
[21:34] <S4RY> * as well.
[21:34] <LinuxFetus_> S4RY, Can you send me a link to the page you're on?
[21:34] <edbian> allu2: yeah probably that was the issue.  typically you should never log into gdm as root.  Doesn't xfce use xdm?
[21:34] <ejay> hi, is there a way to delete files from ubuntu on windows because my ubuntu wont boot because of low disk space
[21:34] <ejay> ???????????
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> gdm by default dosent let root login.. or at least it used to be that way
[21:35] <S4RY> LinuxFetus_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions , http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=50118
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> ejay:  boot a live cd. and try it. but ive never seen a system not boot because of that.
[21:35] <edbian> ejay: Yeah.  You can use this: http://www.soluvas.com/read-browse-explore-open-ext2-ext3-ext4-partition-filesystem-from-windows-7/
[21:35] <tjiggi_fo> abdullah, if you have a question just ask it
[21:35] <edbian> ejay: Next time search the web before just asking us :)
[21:35] <Alexrcol> where is the link for the 10.10 livecd torrent download?
[21:35] <Alexrcol> i cant find it?
[21:35] <allu2> edbian: not that i know
[21:35] <edbian> ejay: You could also boot a live CD
[21:35] <edbian> allu2: mmm
[21:35] <ejay> when i try to boot the ubuntu 11.04 live cd all the pixels are messed up and i cant see anything
[21:36] <allu2> edbian: well i think the .Iceauthorithy was remainings of my debian installation
[21:36] <darkorical> is there such a thing as a live server cd?
[21:36] <S4RY> abdullah: if your main language is Arabic you can go ahead and PM me.
[21:36] <mitigating> Can you make smplayer use gloal settings
[21:36] <Alexrcol> can somebody please help e find the livecd torrent download?
[21:36] <mitigating> i'm trying to script changes
[21:36] <Alexrcol> anybody?
[21:36] <Alexrcol> i need the dvd version
[21:37] <mitigating> alexrocol
[21:37] <mitigating> isn't it listed on the website
[21:37] <Alexrcol> i cant find it
[21:37] <Alexrcol> :/
[21:38] <mitigating> http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[21:38] <mitigating> here is the link
[21:38] <allu2> stupid question why there are two floodbots?
[21:38] <ejay> Dr_Willis: it wont let me delete it
[21:38] <mitigating> allu2 , if one gets killed there is still protection
[21:38] <froq> so I can use SSH to do all my VNCing, FTPing, etc without opening any port except 22, correct?
[21:38] <ejay> edbian: it wont let me delete it
[21:38] <tjiggi_fo> Alexrcol, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt
[21:39] <ejay> the files
[21:39] <aximili> please, can anyone can tell me how "launch" my internet connexion in commandline ?
[21:39] <S4RY> LinuxFetus_: Please lemme know how it goes.
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> ejay:  depends on the video card. if its nvidia try the nomodeset option.
[21:39] <AndroUser> .
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> ejay:  or boot into rescue/revoveruy mode..
[21:39] <allu2> mitigating: killed? by who its the moderator :S
[21:39] <mitigating> aximil what does that mean
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> bbl. gotta run
[21:39] <LinuxFetus_> S4RY, I wil.  I'm downloading alternative right now.  Then I'll have to burn it.
[21:39] <ejay> what do u do in recovery mode
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> !tunnel | froq
[21:39] <mitigating> maybe the server it's connected to disconnects
[21:39] <LinuxFetus_> S4RY, 6 min left on the download. 1 MB/s ish.
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> !tunnle | frog
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> I cant spell.. gotrta run :) heh
[21:39] <froq> Dr_Willis ... what is iTunnel?
[21:40] <ejay> Dr_Willis: wat do u do in recovery mode?
[21:40] <bodhizazen> http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/ubuntu-membership-is-available-to-those-who-are-active-on-the-ubuntu-forums/
[21:40] <DasEi> froq, ejay: will just left
[21:40] <S4RY> LinuxFetus_: good going.
[21:41] <mitigating> why are default settings so bad usually
[21:41] <DasEi> froq: your initial question ?
[21:41] <mitigating> like mplayer defaults look so bad
[21:41] <Alexrcol> which bit should i get?
[21:41] <froq> so I can use SSH to do all my VNCing, FTPing, etc without opening any port except 22, correct?
[21:41] <Alexrcol> 32
[21:41] <Alexrcol> oe 64
[21:41] <Alexrcol> ?
[21:41] <Alexrcol> or*
[21:41] <FloodBot1> Alexrcol: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:41] <bodhizazen> frog: yes
[21:41] <Alexrcol> Sorry.
[21:41] <bodhizazen> Better use ssh -X and forward gnome-panel
[21:41] <mitigating> http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[21:41] <dfgas> what is the key combo to logout back to login screen?
[21:41] <ejay> wat happens in ubuntu recovery mode?
[21:41] <bodhizazen> you can run xming as an X server on Windows
[21:42] <DasEi> froq: 22 is standard port for ssh, but can use any other, too. vnc as ftp have other defaults, but can be altered, too
[21:42] <Mir_pup> god i hate unity
[21:42] <Mir_pup> :<
[21:42] <bodhizazen> froq, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10784053&postcount=9
[21:42] <froq> DasEi, okay.  cool, however, Dr. Willis mentioned iTunnel... what is that?
[21:42] <mitigating> mir pup - use xubuntu
[21:42] <mitigating> xfce is basically gnome now
[21:42] <Mir_pup> :D
[21:42] <bodhizazen> For ftp use sftp
[21:42] <mitigating> this happens to all guis , feature creep
[21:42] <mitigating> they just can't stop
[21:42] <ejay> edbian: wat happens in ubuntu recovery mode?
[21:43] <mitigating> ejay, recovery mode either boots you into a graphical live system or a shell that you can use tools to fix your system
[21:43] <bodhizazen> froq, but you can also use scp and sshfs
[21:43] <codeshah> hey guys, I created a new user account, but /var/mail/<user> is not created... I am trying to setup postfix as in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[21:43] <bodhizazen> On windows use winscp
[21:43] <dusf> DasEi: yes, i'm aware they can take a long time which is why i'd like to have internet access at least :) live cd seems the way to go, thanks!
[21:43] <BlouBlou> ejay: recovery mode = tty only
[21:43] <dusf> DasEi: wrong person
[21:43] <D3luSi0n4L> what is my disk file name for loading MBR data?
[21:44] <DasEi> froq: idk itunnel, might be a typo or an app for tunneling
[21:44] <mitigating> D3 I don't know
[21:44] <D3luSi0n4L> im trying to use a program to clear GPT dta that I guess is preventing my ubuntu from installing
[21:44] <mitigating> it differes between systems
[21:44] <ejay> mitigating: what do i do in there to delete files because my ubuntu 11.04 wont boot because there is not enough disk space
[21:44] <D3luSi0n4L> hmm maybe you can help me then
[21:44] <bodhizazen> froq, You can tunnel ports over ssh
[21:44] <D3luSi0n4L> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743189&page=2
[21:44] <D3luSi0n4L> I had that exact problem and somoen posted afix
[21:45] <bodhizazen> useful for VNC and other protocols (http is common as well)
[21:45] <mitigating> ejay i don't understand
[21:45] <mitigating>  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/??? bs=446 count=1
[21:45] <DasEi> froq: see bodhi above, ssh with x enableb can reduce many tasks to one port
[21:45] <mitigating> that will clear the mbr
[21:45] <FordPrefect> when I download a file how can I save the file in a specific directory on ubuntu? So far Ubuntu only lets me save to archive or downloads directory.
[21:45] <bodhizazen> If you use ssh, use keys and disable password authentication
[21:45] <D3luSi0n4L> http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[21:45] <mitigating> ejay , are you installing it?
[21:45] <D3luSi0n4L> but when I launch the fixparts.exe
[21:45] <bodhizazen> FordPrefect, depends on how you download
[21:45] <D3luSi0n4L> it asks me for a ...
[21:45] <DasEi> bodhizazen: could you put nick, so it's clear who you talk to ?
[21:45] <mitigating> d3 , the drive is /dev/ something
[21:45] <mitigating> we don't know
[21:46] <ejay> mitigating: my ubuntu wont boot (it gets stuck at the ubuntu logo) and i think its because i used ALL my disk space
[21:46] <mitigating> do you only have one drive?
[21:46] <D3luSi0n4L> ok can i figure it out?
[21:46] <D3luSi0n4L> umm yes
[21:46] <mitigating> ejay, in recovery console type du-sh
[21:46] <mitigating> du -sh
[21:46] <D3luSi0n4L> but theres two partitions
[21:46] <FordPrefect> bodhizazen, if I save the file then how do i do it?
[21:46] <D3luSi0n4L> its a laptop
[21:46] <bodhizazen> DasEi, sure
[21:46] <DasEi> :)
[21:46] <bodhizazen> FordPrefect, using what app ? Firefox ?
[21:46] <ejay> what will that do?
[21:46] <FordPrefect> Yes. Firefox bodhizazen
[21:46] <mitigating> d3 you aren't doing it against the partition
[21:46] <mitigating> just /dev/sda or /dev/hda
[21:46] <D3luSi0n4L> ok ty
[21:46] <mitigating> the mbr is per disk
[21:46] <mitigating> not partition
[21:47] <bodhizazen> FordPrefect, Preferences -> Downloads -> Always ask ...
[21:47] <DasEi>  ejay: you're answered ?
[21:47] <D3luSi0n4L> hmm neither of thoes work
[21:47] <D3luSi0n4L> still says
[21:47] <D3luSi0n4L> cant read / etc - Exiting!
[21:47] <D3luSi0n4L> and the program just exits
[21:47] <ejay> mitigating what will that do?
[21:47] <DasEi> froq: also look at fail2ban when setting up ssh
[21:47] <DasEi> !info fail2ban | froq
[21:47] <FordPrefect> bodhizazen,  what tab can I find preferences in Firefox? Tools?
[21:48] <froq> Thanks guys!  I am @ bodhi.zazen post and reading it now!  Apprecaite the direction!
[21:48] <bodhizazen> Edit -> Preferences -> General tab
[21:48] <bodhizazen> FordPrefect, ^^
[21:48] <DasEi> !who | ejay
[21:49] <FordPrefect> bodhizazen, sorry im confused...
[21:49] <Mathuin> Will the command "git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-natty.git source" download the source to the kernel used in 11.04 ?  Is the same source used for 32bit and 64bit?  If so, how does one toggle which is built?
[21:49] <FordPrefect> nevermind found it
[21:50] <ejay> dasei: what does the du-sh command do in recovery mode
[21:50] <bodhizazen> FordPrefect, LOL =)
[21:50] <DasEi> Mathuin: no and no, second
[21:50] <Mathuin> DasEi: no it won't download the source, or no it's not the same for 32 and 64?
[21:51] <ejay> DasEi: what does the du-sh command do in recovery mode?
[21:51] <nibbler_> ejay, du -sh just tells how much diskspace a file/folder occupies
[21:51] <ejay> is there a way to resize the ubuntu partition in win xp (easeus doesnt work for some reason)?
[21:52] <DasEi>  ejay: nothing known to me, df -h ? shows the free space of harddrive, amongst others
[21:52] <ejay> nibbler_: so that cant delete files?
[21:53] <ejay> DasEi: is there a way to resize the ubuntu partition in win xp (easeus doesnt work for some reason)?
[21:53] <D3luSi0n4L>  nibbler_ do you mind if i pm you?
[21:53] <nibbler_> ejay, du gives info only. no pm
[21:53] <DasEi> ejay: yes, gparted from a live cd, and afterwards alter /etc/fstab
[21:53] <nibbler_> D3luSi0n4L, no pm please
[21:53] <D3luSi0n4L> ok
[21:54] <D3luSi0n4L> anyone have a minute Im just having trouble on figuring out what to type into the fixparts program
[21:54] <DasEi> Mathuin: for a kernel source you either d/l it manually or put in a repo (which might be git). 32 and 64 provide diffrent kernels, what is your aim ? using latest kernel ?
[21:54] <ejay> DasEi: when i boot 11.04 from a livecd, all the pixels are messed up
[21:55] <allu2> DasEi: Live cd isn't in windows :P
[21:55] <D3luSi0n4L> DasEi: do you mind if i pm you, i just need help with a really quick issue
[21:55] <ejay> DasEi: is there a way to downgrade ubuntu without losing files?
[21:55] <Mathuin> DasEi: my aim is to re-enable OSS support for /dev/mixer and /dev/dsp on 32-bit desktop.
[21:55] <allu2> ejay: downgrading isn't supported as far as i know
[21:55] <DasEi> D3luSi0n4L: ask here, as I'm busy
[21:56] <D3luSi0n4L> Ok can you check this - I am using this tutorial for a program called "FixParts" it removes stray GPT partition table data
[21:56] <DasEi> ejay: on a system that otherwise runs ubuntu from harddrive ? use another live cd
[21:56] <D3luSi0n4L> when you open it it prompts you for a device filename
[21:57] <D3luSi0n4L> heres the tutorial - http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[21:57] <D3luSi0n4L> under Starting FixParts it has instructiosn but anything I try is not working
[21:57] <DasEi> ejay: downgrading isn't possible, got to backup an reinstall, but can have a list of installed packages
[21:57] <D3luSi0n4L> maybe you can take a look and see if you have input - i'm using a single harddrive, on a laptop with WIndows 7 64bit
[21:59] <DasEi> D3luSi0n4L: you want to convert from gpt to mbr ?
[21:59] <ejay> DasEi: so if i downgrade ubuntu to 10.10 from 11.04 will windows still be able to boot
[22:00] <D3luSi0n4L> DasEi: i found out what to type - "0:" but it didnt bring up any GPT data, or atleast It didnt prompt me as it said it would.
[22:00] <D3luSi0n4L> DasEi:  I'm trying to dualboot windows 7 & ubuntu
[22:00] <DasEi> ejay: you can't downgrade, you can install 10.10, and commonly grubs detects windows, to be safe, backup mbr
[22:00] <D3luSi0n4L> DasEi: and everytime I try, I get the error - root file system not detected
[22:01] <ejay> DasEi: sorry, i meant replace it
[22:01] <DasEi> D3luSi0n4L: so why a gpt tool ?
[22:01] <DasEi> ejay: should work
[22:01] <D3luSi0n4L> DasEi: through that thread it stated that my issue was probably left over GPT partition table data
[22:02] <D3luSi0n4L> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743189&page=2
[22:02] <DasEi> D3luSi0n4L: hmm, my experience with gpt is not too good, which size does the hd have ?
[22:02] <D3luSi0n4L> DasEi: 320gb
[22:02] <allu2> what is this 13775 root 99% update-apt-xapi
[22:02] <D3luSi0n4L> can i run bootinfoscrip on windows?
[22:03] <allu2> its eating all CPU
[22:03] <D3luSi0n4L> it will tell me if there is GPT data
[22:03] <ejay> DasEi: would wubi be able to change the partitions?
[22:03] <DasEi> D3luSi0n4L: so that's fine just for standard mbr installation, to get rid of any gpt-relicts, can simply dd the first sectors and then format, install win, install ubuntu
[22:04] <D3luSi0n4L> ehh reinstallling Windows  is kind of a huge pain for me
[22:04] <D3luSi0n4L> how can i check for these issues -
[22:04] <freezway> does the new xubuntu also come with unity?
[22:04] <D3luSi0n4L> 1. mix of GPT and MBR partition table - this confuses ubiquity 2. leftover fakeraid metadata or unsupported raid option
[22:04] <DasEi> ejay: yes and no, it would  put an image in the space you will first have to clean then
[22:05] <darkorical> Ive been reading about umask and trying to find an answer but am coming up short handed I have transmission installed it has its own user "debian transmission" I believe I want all files and folders created by it to be set to 0777 can someone tell me an easy way of doing this with 11.04
[22:05] <ejay> DasEi: ok
[22:05] <ejay> DasEi: do u know anything about macbuntu or mac4lin
[22:06] <Mathuin> Oooh, got an error inflating the datastream when downloading the kernel.
[22:06] <DasEi> ejay: easist should be just use the alternate 10.10 installer and then choose to format the existing partis, there can also resize
[22:06] <Mathuin> Is there a better channel for kernel-related questions (well, downloading the kernel)?
[22:06] <DasEi> ejay: no
[22:06] <ejay> DasEi: if i format it, wouldnt it delete all my files?
[22:07] <DasEi> ejay: yes
[22:07] <Huck> I need to add a second sata drive to my box to clean off data, how do I select which sata drive will boot the system ?
[22:07] <DasEi> Mathuin: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[22:08] <DasEi> Mathuin: if there is need to, on your own risk, can add a ppa and simply apt-get it
[22:08] <ejay> DasEi: so, is the messed up pixels in 11.04 common?
[22:08] <Mathuin> DasEi: thanks for the pointer to the PPA.  Guess #ubuntu+1 is talking about oneiric now. :-)
[22:08] <DasEi> ejay: there is a new approach to x, but can also be a bad d/l, burn or other reason
[22:09] <ejay> DasEi: i upgraded from 10.10 inside update manager
[22:09] <crankharder> so you know when you ssh into a server it displays a bunch of info... like # of packges needing to be updated etc... mine stopped updating itself.  How do I fix that?
[22:10] <DasEi> ejay: ah, now it becomes clearer, and you still can boot safemode ?
[22:10] <robin0800> Mathuin, no it still redirects here
[22:10] <Mathuin> robin0800: Ah, thanks.  I see -header and -image in the PPA, no -source.  Hopefully git will Do The Right Thing this time.
[22:11] <DasEi> Mathuin: why do you need the source ? compile with special options ?
[22:11] <crankharder> actually, it' duplicated the MOTD and the info is out of date: http://pastebin.com/hwq3bxDQ
[22:11] <ejay> DasEi: when i boot safemode the same thing happens, only unity 2d and ubuntu classic (no effects) works
[22:11] <Mathuin> DasEi: yes.  I intend to re-enable OSS so I can use /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer again.
[22:12] <DasEi> Mathuin: that should be possible still, natty ?
[22:12] <Mathuin> DasEi: I'm hoping it's possible still.  Otherwise I'm sorta screwed.
[22:12] <robin0800> ejay, then its the driver and its interaction to compiz
[22:13] <aliisonline> Hello Any1 know how to refresh gdm input devices?
[22:13] <darko> !ask my torrent download speed is pathetic (the least)
[22:13] <DasEi> Mathuin: sudo apt-get install oss-compat
[22:13] <Mathuin> DasEi: that no longer works. ;-(
[22:13] <DasEi> Mathuin: getting errors ?
[22:13] <ejay> DasEi: i will brb in 20 mins (probably)
[22:14] <DasEi> ejay: fine
[22:14] <BufferUnderpants> Hello folks, any tips on how to avoid scrolling over and over Unity's panel?
[22:14] <BufferUnderpants> I mean, when looking for an open app
[22:15] <Mathuin> DasEi: "FATAL: Module snd_seq_oss not found." and same for _mixer_ and _pcm_
[22:15] <robin0800> BufferUnderpants, do you mean panel or launcher?
[22:15] <Mathuin> because the clever folks completely ripped out the hooks.
[22:15] <BufferUnderpants> The launcher thing
[22:15] <DasEi> Mathuin: ic, starting a vm, looking
[22:15] <netwolker> I'm tring to compile some app from code and i get this error: configure: error: no gstreamer-0.10 >= 0.10.0 (GStreamer) found, but i have gstreamer 0.10 installed :(
[22:16] <BufferUnderpants> robin0800 I mean the launcher
[22:16] <darko> is there a guy that can actually help me , i want to get rid of windows but i cant do this cause at ubuntu cant download torrents fast, also i cant use my tvtuner
[22:16] <Monotoko> heyy guys...I have a new mobo (moving from intel to AMD) a new processor and DDR3 (was DDR2) RAM on it's way...if I put that in, will Ubuntu still boot okay?
[22:16] <trism> netwolker: do you have libgstreamer0.10-dev ?
[22:16] <robin0800> BufferUnderpants, look for the little triangles against the icons
[22:16] <netwolker> trism: i'll check that oyt, thanks
[22:17] <netwolker> *out
[22:17] <edbian> Monotoko: It should
[22:17] <Monotoko> edbian, will I be able to fix it if not..?
[22:17] <darko> why my torrent download speed on ubuntu is so slow
[22:17] <darko> why?
[22:17] <edbian> Monotoko: Well that depends on what problem crops up.  I would be really surprised if anything broke though.  The motherboards typically are not an issue.
[22:17] <AndroUser> More seeds...
[22:17] <Snomi> darko: is your normal dl speed fine?
[22:18] <edbian> Monotoko: A different wifi card.  Now that probably needs some tinkering
[22:18] <BufferUnderpants> robin0800: right, but I mean when I have lots of apps open, scrolling down the launcher can get tiresome
[22:18] <Snomi> Because I came here to say that my speed is half that as on windows
[22:18] <Snomi> on all downloading
[22:18] <Monotoko> edbian, same wifi card...diff processor though :/
[22:18] <darko> the same torrent at windows utorrent is maxed my connection
[22:18] <edbian> Monotoko: Won't make a difference
[22:18] <darko> is there a connection bug generally?
[22:18] <Snomi> this isnt after the update
[22:18] <netwolker> trism: that did the trick, thanks a lot :D
[22:18] <Snomi> but even on 10.1
[22:18] <Monotoko> edbian, good stuff...I will see what happens...I have a laptop to come in here if it goes wrong
[22:18] <edbian> Monotoko: sure.  I'll be waiting!
[22:19] <darko> i like ubuntu but this slow torrent download speed and generally slow internet speed is a dealbreaker
[22:19] <darko> also i cant use my tvtuner
[22:19] <Snomi> darko: on 11.04?
[22:19] <darko> yes
[22:20] <DasEi> Mathuin: it's updating now, I will have a look in few minutes
[22:20] <darko> i used 11.4 64bit and followed all the instuctions but couldnt use my tvtuner
[22:21] <Mathuin> DasEi: thank you very much.  using oss-compat would be far far superior to rolling my own kernel, but I imagine I'll have to replace those missing bits and then use oss-compat.
[22:21] <darko> is there a guy that knows things and can help me
[22:21] <DasEi> Mathuin: if so, consider using kernelcheck, though I can't believe one can't switch it anymore since it's still there
[22:22] <BufferUnderpants> Well, thanks anyway.
[22:22] <darko> i was so happy that i would install the new version and leave windows but i was dissapointed so much
[22:22] <darko> i didnt expected a linux system that it would have internet issues
[22:22] <DasEi> darko: tried tvtime ?
[22:23] <darko> tried firmware extraction and everything possible
[22:23] <darkorical> Ive been reading about umask and trying to find an answer but am coming up short handed I have transmission installed it has its own user "debian transmission" I believe. I want all files and folders created by it to be set to 0777 can someone tell me an easy way of doing this with 11.04
[22:23] <darko> trying the 32bit version would help ?
[22:24] <DasEi> darko: tried tvtime ?
[22:24] <DasEi> !info tvtime
[22:25] <edbian> darkorical: umask 000 /path/to/folder    the folder is that which transmission places all downloads
[22:25] <mnouh> Hello, can anyone tell me how I can tell clang to use a different directory for the c++ header files.
[22:25] <darko> is there anyone who downloads with transmission and maxes his connection ??
[22:26] <mnouh> Hello, can anyone tell me how I can tell clang to use a different directory for the c++ header files.
[22:26] <tripelb> I just read about free -m, the command. It shows almost all of my memory in use. The graphic "System Monitor" on my panel does not. Please help me understand................
[22:26] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks
[22:27] <Jasonn> hi
[22:27] <thiebaude> tripelb: i use htop myself which is very easy to understand
[22:27] <tripelb> darko, I download with trasmission. I have done that. Hi! Tell me more. Remember to describe your system and connections so I dont have to pry it out of you.  Well, I didn't expect that, but it makes the launcher much more bearable
[22:27] <edbian> tripelb: The free command tells you how much of memory has usable stuff in it.  The gnome system monitor tells you how much ram and stuff that the kernel and applications absouletly need stored.  The difference is cache.  The kernel generally throws stuff into ram that it expects will be used
[22:27] <tripelb> thiebaude, I can. But .. wait I have something to read from edbian
[22:27] <edbian> tripelb: hi :)
[22:27] <GeorgeJ> How can I enable the server window for IRC on pidgin? I'm trying to find out what staffers are online on freenode with /stats p, but it doesn't show anything :(
[22:28] <edbian> tripelb: I made a typo.  the gnome system monitor tells you how much ram that the kernel and applications absolutely need stored.  The difference is...
[22:28] <tripelb> edbian, so the free command is telling me about RAM+cache (and cache is a part of the hard drive used to page RAM). - Is that so?
[22:29] <edbian> tripelb: Yes.  That's what buffers / cache are in free -m
[22:30] <mnouh> How can I modify clang's c++ header library search
[22:31] <Baltazaar> Is ubuntu good with drivers and hw detection on Intel Mac Book Pro laptops?
[22:31] <LinuxFetus_> S4RY, The alternative disk installer for 10.04.2 64 bit says that it cannot resize one of the partitions for an unknown reason.
[22:31] <jrib> !mac | Baltazaar
[22:32] <Baltazaar> tnx
[22:32] <jrib> Baltazaar: everything works fine on my macbook (not pro)
[22:32] <tripelb> edbian, I'll save that to get more clear about later. thanks you and thiebaude -- yes I just learned about free -m because I am reading a page on terminal commands. ==> basically I want ot learn about pulseaudio because I am trying to make this webcam work in something beside cheese and trying to get it's audio going.  So I want to see if there is a program clled pulsaudo. So then I need
[22:32] <tripelb>  to (finally) learn the command to look through all the directories in the filesystem (usr? bin? all of them?) to see if any is called pulseaudio* but I dont know how) tripelb takes a breath now.
[22:32] <tzanger> good evening... having a bit of trouble getting grub-install to recognize the root on software raid (md0)
[22:32] <Gerowen> Question, I'm trying to get used to Unity, but I'm having a few issues.  I'm using an ATI Radeon 3100 HD graphics card with 256 MB of video memory, but Unity is very sluggish.  Normal use is fine, but if I try to drag a movie around while it's playing, or if I try to play 3-d games in windowed mode, I take serious framerate hits.  Any suggestions?
[22:32] <Baltazaar> ok... had some trouble with the tracking device on earlier releases...
[22:33] <edbian> tripelb: Just type pulse[tab][tab]  it will autocomplete by looking in those directories automatically
[22:33] <tzanger> it's booted, / is on /dev/md0 (as seen with mount output), but grub-install /dev/sda is complaining that it can't find a physical device for md0
[22:33] <evon> If i have a program in a specific directory I want to run, what is the command I have to put into the startup serttings? I tried "/usr/lib/vino ./vino-server" but that does not work
[22:33] <edbian> tripelb: Then look it up in synaptic if you need to install it (it's not install I don't think)
[22:34] <edbian> evon: It's the same command that you would type at the terminal. /usr/lib/vino/vino-server
[22:34] <brad[]> Hi all. Can't find a straight answer on this anywhere - will release engineering for GNOME be discontinued in future releases of Ubuntu proper, or spun off into a GUbuntu variant, or the like? Or will it continue to be maintained and available?
[22:34] <edbian> evon: I'm guessing at the path of that thing
[22:34] <oedg> hi all, can maybe anyone help setting eth card speed?
[22:34] <ejay> DasEi: im back
[22:35] <DasEi> ejay: fine, what graphics are you using ?
[22:35] <mnouh> How can I modify clang's c++ header library search. Clang isn't including c++ 4.5.2, the maximum they added was 4.4
[22:36] <evon> edbian thanks I will try that
[22:36] <edbian> evon: sure
[22:36] <lwizardl> ok where is the best place to find nautilus scripts ?
[22:36] <ejay> DasEi: idk
[22:36] <FaceFurFiend> HEY HEY gurus!!! Got a good one fur ya!
[22:37] <mnouh> How can I modify clang's C++ header library search. Clang isn't finding c++ headers because they only added directory search for 4.5.2 and the maximum they added was 4.4.
[22:37] <tripelb> edbian I found out how to do it in gnome (places, search for files, tada) -- but I'd still like to learn it in bash (I found out how to do echo $SHELL too --- love google and UCD
[22:37] <FaceFurFiend> Same as the thousands of topics out there..... No headphone audio.... Tried many things.... no solution...
[22:37] <edbian> tripelb: I told you pulse[tab][tab]
[22:37] <edbian> !tab tripelb
[22:37] <edbian> !tab | tripelb
[22:37] <DasEi> ejay: there might be hardware not supporting unity, else one would first check for correct drivers for the g-card, lspci | grep vga  could be of help
[22:38] <mnouh> How can I modify clang's C++ header library search. Clang isn't finding c++ headers because they only added directory search for 4.5.2 and the maximum they added was 4.4.
[22:38] <tripelb> edbian I know about that. but I didnt know that pulseaudio was a command.  (ignorance is bliss, heh)
[22:38] <DasEi> ejay: and as you already said, why for now not just simply switching default to gnome ?
[22:38] <ejay> DasEi: even on the livecd itdoesnt work
[22:38]  * FaceFurFiend wiats patiently
[22:38] <LadySerena> is there a web-based VM manager for ubuntu server?
[22:39] <edbian> tripelb: I'm not sure it is.  Better idea would be to look a the pulseaudio package in synaptic to get an idea of what it is
[22:39] <Chipzzz> LadySerena: there's webmin
[22:39] <DasEi> LadySerena: you can run virtualbox headless via ssh
[22:39] <ejay> DasEi: thats what i did but on the livecd it chooses unity by default and i cant use anything to change it so i downloaded ubuntu 10.04
[22:39] <LadySerena> looking for something like proxmox
[22:39] <DasEi> ejay: fine for partioning, too
[22:39] <LadySerena> that kind of functionality
[22:40] <ejay> ok
[22:40] <ejay> DasEi: ok
[22:40] <mnouh> How can I modify clang's C++ header library search. Clang isn't finding c++ headers because they only added directory search for 4.5.2 and the maximum they added was 4.4.
[22:41]  * LadySerena wants a VM cluster to run her clustered systems in
[22:42] <jiffe99> so I'm reading the notes for the ubuntu professional course
[22:42] <jiffe99> From 1st October 2010, this course will no longer lead to the LPI 101, 102 or Ubuntu 199 exams. The Ubuntu Professional course replaces the Ubuntu Certified Professional certification course and all related exams.
[22:43] <FaceFurFiend> Has there ever been a fix to the "no audio from headphone jack" issue with a gateway M-series laptop??
[22:43] <jiffe99> I don't see any other courses related to this cert, does that mean there's no longer training for this cert?
[22:44] <jiffe99> the only other way I can interpret that is that the description was copied over from the old 'Ubuntu Certified Professional certification course' and the note was not removed
[22:44] <Faustus2> is there an easy way to change a icon for all *.png files?
[22:44] <Faustus2> gnome
[22:45] <DasEi> mnouh: if you can't find an answer here, try also in ##c++-basic
[22:45] <mnouh> ok
[22:45] <mnouh> apparently I have to recompile clang from source
[22:45] <mnouh> its a bug
[22:46] <ejay> DasEi: so just asking in case i do this but if i delete ubuntu when it runs alongside windows then will windows boot?
[22:46] <mnouh> that it cannot detect include/c++/4.5.2
[22:46] <ejay> DasEi: do u have a website that teaches me how to use gparted?
[22:47] <z3r0n0id> hello
[22:47] <heydude09876> hey
[22:48] <z3r0n0id> whats going on in here?
[22:48] <tripelb> edbian, synaptic is something that fails me (all but one time) I was reading info pulseaudio, then wiki on lowlatency. PPulseAudio (formerly Polypaudio) is a cross-platform, networked sound server (wikip), PulseAudio is a networked low-latency sound server(info) -- and I say "a server" -- ok I'll just let that ride in my mind, (client-server pair and all).  -- that's where I sit so far.
[22:48] <heydude09876> nothing as far as i can tell, z3r0n0id
[22:49] <z3r0n0id> ic, not used to irc's..
[22:49] <TheSarge> Hello can someone point me in the direction of some good NVR software for a standalone NVR server I am going to build? Needs to supports 20 IP Cameras and 5TB of HDD.
[22:49] <tripelb> edbian, the wikip entry is copied from synaptic
[22:49] <DasEi> ejay: it's pretty self-explaining , and you can reach in here from live too; http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html
[22:49] <wajeemba> any xorg wizards out there? I'm McGyvering a computer projector together by taking apart an LCD screen, and placing the glass on an overhead projector. It's working well except some of the image is cropped off because the overhead glass is too small. I'm wondering if there is a way to crop the screen size on the system side too, so that I don't lose any picture, but just have less screen real estate.
[22:50] <DasEi> ejay: I somehow still haven't got what the aim will be, just resizing a partiton ? afterwards have to alter fstab, as grub won't finds them no more
[22:50] <DasEi> partition*
[22:50] <tripelb> sentences like this are why I need a "from the beginning" training thingy. Even though I remember useing tsch in the 80's I know that that first sentence is a fuzzy thing in my mind.
[22:51] <wajeemba> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-868590.html may be of reference use
[22:51] <ejay> DasEi: i need to resize because i need more disk space so ubuntu will boot
[22:51] <kad_> how to hide the left launcher under Ubuntu 11.04 unity?
[22:51] <tripelb> This package contains the daemon and basic module set." sentences like this are why I need a "from the beginning" training thingy. Even though I remember useing tsch in the 80's I know that that first sentence is a fuzzy thing in my mind. (edbian and anyone else who may want to help)
[22:51] <DasEi> ejay: errm, simply remove some packets / files ?
[22:52] <AndroUser> Kad, login classic
[22:52] <DasEi> ejay: and for more space add a partiton/drive ?
[22:52] <ejay> DasEi: i cant because i cant get into ubuntu
[22:52] <perlsyntax> Does ubuntu 10.04.2 work with  truemobile 1150 pc card i try 11.04 and ubuntu 10.10 network manger will not connect to my wireless router?
[22:52] <DasEi> ejay: you can, from live cd
[22:52] <perlsyntax> any idea how to get it to work?
[22:53] <xxen0nxx> how do I make a theme for GNOME?
[22:53] <tripelb> a daemon (pronounced /ˈdeɪmən/ or /ˈdiːmən/)[1] is a computer program that runs in the background, rather than under the direct control of a user; they are usually initiated as background processes. Typically daemons have names that end with the letter "d": for example, syslogd, ((except that pulseaudio does not end in the letter d)) --- Oh, a TSR. (edbian et al)
[22:53] <perlsyntax> Does wicd support mobile internet?
[22:53] <AndroUser> Nickserv
[22:53] <ejay> DasEi: ohhhh yeah but when i tried it wouldnt let me delete if that doesnt work ill try gparted
[22:53] <edbian> tripelb: that triggered my name :P
[22:53] <perlsyntax> ?
[22:54] <DasEi> ejay: sudo su gives you root in live-terminal
[22:54] <MtrPanda> Hi All, I would like to record skype sessions I am using  ubuntu 10.04
[22:54] <perlsyntax> do i need to install a differnt network manger?
[22:54] <perlsyntax> ???
[22:54] <Camer0n> hello, just upgraded to 11.04, how do I move the side bar thing to the bottom or the right because with dual monitors its just weird
[22:54] <ejay> DasEi: that might help, thanks!
[22:55] <tripelb> daemon init parent child overlay (Thank heavens for wikipedia)
[22:55] <perlsyntax> can anyone help me with my wireless prob?
[22:55] <edbian> perlsyntax: sure.  What card do you have?
[22:55] <tripelb> Will anyone help me get my webcam microphone to function! SVP!
[22:55] <perlsyntax> truemobile 1150 pc card?
[22:55] <ejay> DasEi: thanks for your help!  ill come back if i have probs!
[22:55] <DasEi> MtrPanda: try audacity
[22:56] <perlsyntax> it work just fine in ubuntu 9.10
[22:56] <S4nD3r> Is there any student in computer science, undergraduate, who would like to learn portuguese and teach advanced english?
[22:56] <MtrPanda> thanks DasEi
[22:56] <edbian> perlsyntax: What does lspci -k call it?
[22:56] <perlsyntax> it pick up the wireless name but it will not connect.
[22:57] <tripelb> edbian, I thought we were still discussion how I can understand pulseaudio but then I decided you were busy. so I just asked, again, <tripelb> Will anyone help me get my webcam microphone to function! SVP!
[22:57] <DasEi> S4nD3r: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:57] <perlsyntax> i boot up the live cd :)
[22:57] <mongy> anyone know why empathy in 11.04 isnt using notify system, just an unread msg count on the icon in launcher and envelope in panel turns different colour.. I want actual notify popups like in 10.10
[22:57] <edbian> tripelb: http://www.tuxradar.com/content/how-it-works-linux-audio-explained
[22:58] <edbian> tripelb: This is a good starting point.
[22:58] <dusf> does anyone know if you can watch video on the ubuntu live cd?
[22:58] <edbian> :)
[22:58] <tripelb> k
[22:58] <edbian> dusf: You can
[22:58] <MtrPanda> sorry Dasi i meant to record the video as well as sound
[22:58] <FloodBot1> edbian: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:58] <TheSarge> Hello can someone point me in the direction of some good NVR software for a standalone NVR server I am going to build? Needs to supports 20 IP Cameras and 5TB of HDD.
[22:58] <edbian> perlsyntax: That doesn't really answer my question :)
[22:58] <edbian> I'm talking too fast.  hahaha
[22:58] <dusf> edbian: .avis etc i have downloaded? asking cause i'd like to resize partitions but not render my pc useless while doing so
[22:58] <DasEi> MtrPanda: try recordmydesktop
[22:58] <edbian> dusf: I'm not 100% sure you can play .avi files by default but I would be surprised if one could not
[22:58] <perlsyntax> ok
[22:59] <MtrPanda> thanks
[22:59] <WormDrink> hi
[22:59] <cyrano_> I'm running 11.04 and I have three monitors im trying to setup I have two nvidia cards and I use proprietary drivers ubuntu seems to be messing with the screens since I have two different resolutions between the three monitors the 1440x900 monitor is displaying a desktop at 1280x1024 BUT it is not stretching it seems to be gnome and not X so I changed the xorg to use only one screen and the desktop has setup three screens still on just
[22:59] <WormDrink> I need a download manager
[22:59] <cyrano_> rat download or something like that is pretty good wormdrink
[22:59] <Camer0n> Anyone??? I just upgraded to 11.04, how do I move the side bar thing to the bottom or the right because with dual monitors its just weird
[22:59] <cyrano_> if you need a gui
[22:59] <dusf> edbian: ty
[22:59] <DasEi> edbian, dusf: by default not for legal reasons, , exept vlc, one needs to install the codecs
[23:00] <edbian> dusf: sure
[23:00] <DasEi> vlc brings it's own codecs, other players not
[23:00] <edbian> dusf: What I can promise.  If you boot the live CD and it can't play AVIs all you have to do is install a package
[23:00] <AndroUser> I remember installing a restricted formats package when I installed 10.10...?
[23:00] <edbian> dusf: VLC would be an obvious solution
[23:00] <cyrano_> @WormDrink sorry it's called FatRat
[23:01] <perlsyntax> enbian,It work with the wlan-ng in sabayon  not sure how to work wlan-ng in ubuntu.
[23:01] <edbian> AndroUser: yeah.  That solves this problem
[23:01] <edbian> perlsyntax: lsmod | grep wlan-ng
[23:01] <edbian> perlsyntax: What does that return??
[23:01] <perlsyntax> ok i try that
[23:01] <perlsyntax> hold on i tell you.
[23:01] <edbian> perlsyntax: holding
[23:02] <FaceFurFiend> Camer0n: I remember something about the login screen, you can change back to the old style desktop which is much better... I did it, I know it can be done, just forgot exactly how but it IS in the login screen settings
[23:02] <AndroUser> Hang on tight
[23:02] <froq> Is there a nice pandora desktop client for Ubuntu?
[23:02] <AndroUser> FaceFur: login classic desktop
[23:03] <FaceFurFiend> AndroUser: yah that is it
[23:03] <edbian> Camer0n: FaceFurFiend log out.  click ur name, look at the bottom at sessions
[23:03] <cyrano_> ubuntu classic
[23:03] <edbian> froq: This is a great cli one called pianobar in the repos
[23:03] <perlsyntax> take forever cd to load.
[23:03] <Mathuin> DasEi: any luck with the vm?
[23:03] <dusf> edbian: nice, wasn't sure it was possible to install when using the live cd
[23:03] <froq> edbian, THANKZ!!!!  can I just sudo apt-get it?
[23:03] <tripelb> edbian, good source but "too many bananas". I want to be able to chat with a friend. What they are teaching me is that it's not well designed. In that case I want to know how to do it. Is thre a SIMPLE way to test the microphone like "soundRecorder" in windows? That might tell me if it's the specific programs I am trying or somthing more specific to my webcam microphone. (Logitech quickcam for windows. UCD says works out of the box but
[23:03] <tripelb>  may need wrapper for skype. the wrapperpage stuff fails, alas)
[23:03] <edbian> dusf: yeah
[23:03] <edbian> froq: yes
[23:03] <dusf> edbian: thanks bro
[23:03] <FaceFurFiend> now I just really need my audio problem solved!!!!
[23:03] <cyrano_> @FaceFurFiend @Camer0n it's ubuntu classic
[23:03] <DasEi> Mathuin: sorry for delay, the §$%& thing crashed few times in the update...
[23:03] <Camer0n> ah thanks
[23:03] <tripelb> dusf you can install but it all goes into ram and that fills up. FYI
[23:04] <edbian> tripelb: Are you trying to get your mic working in skype?
[23:04] <Camer0n> it's a bit weird :/
[23:04] <edbian> dusf: sure
[23:04] <Mathuin> DasEi: no problem, it takes time. :-)
[23:04] <froq> edbian, you are the man!
[23:04] <edbian> froq: ha, I love pianobar :)D
[23:04] <arrrghhh> can i get some help formatting an SD card?  i did sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1, and it appears formatted vfat... but sudo fdisk -l still shows "Linux" as the file system...!
[23:04] <froq> edbian, can I have it always have me logged in or is that not possible?
[23:05] <usr13> Someone earlier asked "what's the modern Ubuntu way of setting up console frame buffer?"  I was uable to stick around for answers.  So, what were they?
[23:05] <tripelb> edbian, I tried skype. that didnt work. so I loaded exiga. I have no idea how to make a test call in that. (yes I got an account too) so I thought I'd get even more simple. can I record a sound.  {tripelb tried to simplify and think clearly.)
[23:05] <edbian> froq: I don't know of a way.  Never looked into it.  Check the man page
[23:05] <froq> edbian, will do, again thanks!
[23:05] <usr13> arrrghhh: That should have done it.
[23:05] <edbian> tripelb: I actually fixed the same problem for myself on an acer aspire one and skype so I feel pretty confident about this.
[23:06] <arrrghhh> usr13, ah i see my folly.  i didn't change the partitions system ID in fdisk... d'oh.
[23:06] <arrrghhh> usr13, long story, i'm playing with nilfs :P
[23:06] <edbian> tripelb: Here it is: http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2008/05/23/skype-microphone-problem-and-complete-pulse-audio-setup-in-ubuntu/
[23:07] <usr13> arrrghhh: You could also have used mkfs.vfat
[23:07] <arrrghhh> usr13, same thing.  mkdosfs, etc.
[23:07] <usr13> arrrghhh: oh yea,  ok.
[23:07] <arrrghhh> usr13, ah.  yea that was the issue.  forgot that step, d'oh.
[23:07] <tripelb> edbian, clicking
[23:08] <edbian> tripelb: waiting
[23:08] <edbian> tripelb: You should see the little input level thingy move when you make noise.
[23:08] <usr13> Someone earlier asked "what's the modern Ubuntu way of setting up console frame buffer?"  I was uable to stick around for answers.  I'm wanting to do the same thing.  I want bigger fonts in console mode.  I know how to do it  in lilo but do not know how to do it with grub.
[23:09] <arrrghhh> time to recopy all that data.... thx.
[23:09] <tripelb> edbian, I must go to the park. or this will be the 3rd year of missing the local festival 1/2 block away.
[23:09] <edbian> tripelb: I'm looking at this link too.  It's huge. Try to follow if you want.  I'm gonna find a shorter one
[23:09] <edbian> tripelb: Oh
[23:09] <edbian> Go to your festival!
[23:09] <tripelb> edbian, leave me a PM if you would be so nice.
[23:09] <Mathuin> DasEi: I will be in and out of my office, I will respond if you ping me, thanks for building the VM!
[23:09] <mongy> ok, I'm not getting ANY notification bubbles from anything that supports it (gm-notify, empathy etc). any clues?
[23:10] <DasEi> Mathuin: tap, tap, :)
[23:10] <Mathuin> heh!
[23:11] <trism> mongy: is notify-osd running/installed? (assuming you're using gnome), if so, do the messages show up in ~/.cache/notify-osd.log (say from notify-send from libnotify-bin), if so you may just need to kill notify-osd and restart it (or relog)
[23:11] <Chevy787> hey, could someone help?
[23:11] <FaceFurFiend> MY QUESTION:  I have audio from my laptop speakrs, but when I plug in my headphones all the audio stops. Works find in windose, not in ubuntu 10.10... HELP PLEASE *pulls out hair*
[23:12] <Chevy787> I'm getting " unable to enumerate USB device on port 5" in the recovery console
[23:12] <edbian> FaceFurFiend: go into alsamixer
[23:12] <mongy> trism, notify-osd is running
[23:12] <FaceFurFiend> edbian: i DID THAT (oops) alrady
[23:12] <edbian> FaceFurFiend: Did you notice anything muted / unmuted?
[23:12] <Chevy787> it keeps spamming me with the same message...and I'm unable to perfrom the needed operations within the recovery console
[23:12] <meisth0th> will windows 7 be installed in second partition (like sda2)?
[23:12] <mongy> trism, and I see your message and others in the .cache/log
[23:12] <FaceFurFiend> Nothing was muted
[23:12] <FaceFurFiend> oops
[23:12] <FaceFurFiend> edbian: nothing was muted
[23:13] <LadySerena> D:
[23:13] <trism> mongy: do you have a fullscreen app running?
[23:13] <mongy> trism, I'll kill notify-osd and libnotify and restart them
[23:13] <mongy> trism, no
[23:13] <stealth-> Hey guys, how can I give this free space to the NFS partition?
[23:13] <stealth-> http://i.imgur.com/9Cj1W.png
[23:13] <LadySerena> it won't shut down!  D:
[23:13] <cyrano_> I'm running 11.04 and I have three monitors im trying to setup I have two nvidia cards and I use proprietary drivers ubuntu seems to be messing with the screens since I have two different resolutions between the three monitors the 1440x900 monitor is displaying a desktop at 1280x1024 BUT it is not stretching it seems to be gnome and not X so I changed the xorg to use only one screen and the desktop has setup three screens still on just
[23:13] <vrousa> good I'm using ubuntu on my machine but I have postgres installed it but when I try to connect I get the following error: Error connecting to the server: could not connect to server: Connection refused
[23:13] <vrousa> Is the server running on the server "<IP_ADDRESS>"and accepting
[23:13] <vrousa> TCP / IP connections on port 5432?
[23:14] <edbian> FaceFurFiend: Here is a guide that is 'comprehensive' to say the least.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[23:14] <vrousa> by favorable can help me with this?
[23:14] <anonissimus> what is the suggested terminal in a browser package these days? been looking at anyterm but it won't compile
[23:14] <FaceFurFiend> edbian: thanks I will read it, try it and get back to ya
[23:14] <edbian> stealth-: It will take a long time.  You need to move sda2 over to the right.  Then you can grow sda1
[23:15] <edbian> FaceFurFiend: Good luck
[23:15] <S4RY> linuxtech: what were you trying to do exactly.
[23:15] <edbian> stealth-: what are sda5 and 6?  /home and / ?
[23:15] <stealth-> edbian: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. How can I move the parition over to the right though? I'm not seeing an option in Gparted for it. Any idea?
[23:15] <stealth-> edbian: Yes.
[23:15] <stealth-> stealth-: Er, other way around. / and /home/
[23:16] <stealth-> edbian: ^
[23:16] <edbian> stealth-: You resize / move it.  Don't change the size.  Just change the preceeding and following sizes
[23:16] <edbian> stealth-: I was just curious why you had 2
[23:16] <soreau> llutz: ping
[23:16] <stealth-> edbian: Ah, okay. Thanks.
[23:17] <edbian> stealth-: Make sense?
[23:17] <froq> So any of you involved in Healthcare IT work?
[23:17] <soreau> ! ot | froq
[23:17] <stealth-> edbian: And yeah, it's easier for when I install every LTS, then I don't loose my /home/ folder stuff. :)
[23:17] <edbian> stealth-: yes of course :D
[23:17] <FaceFurFiend> edbian: Issue 1: I can not seem to double-click on my sound icon... it does nothing, but I can bring up the sound preferences but nothing is muted
[23:17] <stealth-> edbian: Yup, makes perfect sense. Thanks again ;)
[23:18] <edbian> FaceFurFiend: Double clicking is possible in every older version of Ubuntu.  If you can make sure everything is unmuted I'm sure that's equivalent.  The how-to is apparently not up to date
[23:18] <edbian> stealth-: sure no problem
[23:19] <mongy> trism, had to logout/login... its ok now....
[23:20] <ExploitMan> bazhang, hi
[23:20] <mongy> trism, edit..  no, empathy still does not.. it used it to notify me of an add request, but not any messages
[23:20] <trism> mongy: hmm, but you are getting other notifications?
[23:21] <mongy> trism, yeah.  I have seen quite a few unity bugs, so I'll just chalk this one up to the same :(
[23:21] <UserX7> any suggesitons for a command line dvd encoder?
[23:23] <Alexrcol> does anybody know how to restore windows without killing ubuntu? :S
[23:23] <ubuntu-usr> i have installed scrapbook add-on and it's enabled but i do not see any option to use scrapbook or browse downloaded contents. My os is ubuntu 11.04
[23:24] <ubuntu-usr> it was about firefox 4
[23:24] <UserX7> Alexrcol: update-grub should use os proper and add windows to your grub menu
[23:24] <Caligul_> LuisCosta Es da terrinha o.. pa?
[23:24] <usr13> UserX7: http://pastebin.com/y3MfgNWf
[23:25] <LuisCosta> Caligul_ É pá pois sou pá e tal...
[23:25] <trism> mongy: could be, do they work on the (no effects) desktop?
[23:25] <Alexrcol> UserX7, I mean is there a way to restore windows to factory condition without killing Ubuntu.
[23:25] <mongy> ughh..  working now.
[23:25] <edbian> Alexrcol: I don't think so.
[23:25] <Caligul_> LuisCosta hehehehe
[23:25] <Caligul_> :)
[23:26] <LuisCosta> Caligul_ Fica bem!
[23:27] <usr13> Was that what you were looking for?
[23:27] <Caligul_> LuisCosta vya
[23:27] <Caligul_> LuisCosta cya
[23:27] <Chevy787> I'm getting " unable to enumerate USB device on port 5" in the recovery console
[23:27] <Chevy787> anyone can help?
[23:27] <UserX7> usr13: avi to dvd
[23:28] <usr13> UserX7: Ok, Yea, that should do it.
[23:28] <rpk> I'm trying to install ubuntu 11.04, I'm getting an error saying ubi-partman creashed: ubi-partman failed with exit code 141.  Suggestions?
[23:28] <UserX7> Alexrcol: have you broken the windows mbr?
[23:28] <Alexrcol> UserX7, I don't think so.
[23:28] <rpk> The error shows up when I click forward after the screen the has checkboxes (enough space, plugged into a power source, connected to the internet).
[23:28] <Alexrcol> I want to restore windows,because there is a virus.
[23:29] <Alexrcol> :S
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> theres av software you can run from linux, or a live linux cd. to scan/fix windows instaslls..
[23:29] <UserX7> Alexrcol: you can run an AV from linux on your windows partition
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> but i rarely need to do so > :)
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> !info clamav
[23:30] <Alexrcol> UserX7, I want to restore.
[23:30] <Alexrcol> :S
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> Alexrcol:  so i missed what this has to do with 'ubuntu support' ?
[23:30] <Alexrcol> I want to try to keep Ubuntu.
[23:30] <usr13> Alexrcol: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[23:30] <Alexrcol> Thanks. :D
[23:30] <jakubo> hi, how do i upgrade to ubuntu 11.10 pre alpha?
[23:31] <Caligul_> Alexrcol first thing: backup ya data - hardcore procedures comming
[23:31] <usr13> Alexrcol: After you re-install MS Windows, the grub boot loader will be wiped out.  The above instructions will help you get grub installed again.
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[23:31] <Caligul_> Alexrcol second: try to make a ubuntu boot cd and test it
[23:31] <Alexrcol> i have an ubuntu dvd
[23:31] <Alexrcol> livedvd
[23:31] <Alexrcol> :S
[23:32] <Caligul_> Alexrcol third: reinstall windows
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> Alexrcol:  if you have a spare usb flash druive. you can install grub to that. then boot it, and reinstall grub from the installed system also.
[23:32] <Caligul_> Alexrcol fourth: reboot ubuntu w/ cd and reinstall grub
[23:32] <Alexrcol> thanks guys :D
[23:33] <jakubo> hi, how do i upgrade to ubuntu 11.10 pre alpha?
[23:33] <Monotoko> jakubo, there isn't one yet...
[23:33] <insanity99> hey guys, how might one protect there...confidential files and directories on 11.04?
[23:33] <jakubo> update-manager -d seems not to work yet
[23:34] <edbian> insanity99: making them writable only by myself
[23:34] <Caligul_> ops gotta leave
[23:34] <Caligul_> bye guys
[23:34] <edbian> insanity99: making them only readable and writeable by myself
[23:34] <usr13> Callum__: What about the Girls?
[23:34] <insanity99> on a single profile though
[23:35] <insanity99> make sure they dont show up on the dash thing and whatnot
[23:35] <jakubo> is there any date given when it will be available?
[23:36] <FiremanEd>   jakubo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[23:36] <edbian> insanity99: well if people are logged in as you there's no protecting your files.  HOw is the machine supposed to tell the difference?
[23:36] <edbian> insanity99: although, files that start with a . are hidden in linux
[23:36] <rpk> the bug number for my issue appears to be : [Bug 757720]
[23:36] <insanity99> yeah...they know how to press ctrl h though sadly
[23:37] <DJJeff> im thinking of dual booting ubuntu 11 and backtrack 5 so when installing ubuntu I installed the boot loader (GRUB) to /dev/hda1 which is partitioned as /boot now my computer wont start untill a bootloader is installed to MBR how do I do that?   im in the " GRUB > " command line tool right now
[23:38] <mongy> trism, I have linked it to me-tv.  Soon as I run that, notifications stop.  meh.  Thanks anyway
[23:38] <insanity99> how about crypkeeper?
[23:39] <jakubo> do you know whether u11.10 will have systemd support?
[23:39] <jakubo> oh... im sorry..
[23:40] <jakubo> i guess it will be decided on the dev conf
[23:40] <FaceFurFiend> GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR this sucks.....  trying to reboot
[23:40] <Pici> jakubo: Which is this upcoming week :)
[23:40] <mongy> insanity99, install ecryptfs-utils and use ecrypt-setup-private
[23:41] <insanity99> whats it do?
[23:41] <mongy> insanity99, makes a folder called Private and encrypts it
[23:41] <mongy> insanity99, as in, you need to login to decrypt it
[23:42] <insanity99> ok thanks
[23:43] <thedragon4453> anyone available to help with a support question? or is this a good channel for that?
[23:44] <Income> How exactly do i open backup files
[23:44] <jcmarini> when blank dvd   is not detected by burner can a app tell me why
[23:45] <h00k> !ask | thedragon4453
[23:46] <LadySerena> how does one tell ubuntu server to shut down and power off?
[23:47] <rpk> anyone? ubi-partman error during install?  I tried removing 3 partitions, so I'm down to 3 ntfs and one that is formatted as RAW
[23:47] <g0ldennugget> i just upgraded from 10 to version 11 of ubuntu (this is a desktop) and now I have this weird dock thing on the left side of my screen.  how do i convert back to normal?
[23:47] <escott> !classic | g0ldennugget
[23:48] <g0ldennugget> great
[23:48] <thedragon4453> alrighty, here goes. I ran an update on 10.04 and now it won't boot into x.  It get's to the splash screen and just hangs on "Loading..." if i ctrl-alt-f1/f2/f3 around I can eventually find a screen that says something like /dev/disk/by-uuid/f14b<etc> doesn't exist.
[23:48] <g0ldennugget> ubottu: what's good about Unity?
[23:48] <Soupermanito> !unity
[23:49] <thedragon4453> ladyserena: sudo shutdown now
[23:49] <Income> is there any wa
[23:49] <Income> any way to open backup files?
[23:49] <LadySerena> yea, what I expected to work does absolutely nothing
[23:49] <snii> When I try to use sudo, I get the message "can't open /etc/sudoers: No such file or directory". What do I do now?
[23:49] <g0ldennugget> ubottu: thanks.  logging out to change my interface.  thanks again.
[23:51] <escott> snii, did you create a root password, or is this a normal install
[23:51] <Income> is there any wayt
[23:52] <Income> to open x-trash files?
[23:52] <escott> Income, how did you make these backups/how did you delete the files you wanted
[23:52] <FuzzyNuts> Hey guys
[23:52] <Income> escott, i really dont know, in place of my regular document is a backup/xtrash file
[23:53] <Income> i didnt delete it, thats for sure
[23:53] <akour> hmm
[23:53] <snii> escott: I created another user with a password, but not for root/ubuntu
[23:53] <escott> Income, what application
[23:53] <snii> (It's on xubuntu btw.)
[23:53] <Income> escott what do you mean by that
[23:53] <escott> snii, then you will need to either boot with a live cd and use chroot to gain root access and restore your sudoers file or boot to single user mode
[23:53] <escott> Income, what kind of files are these?
[23:54] <Income> pdf
[23:54] <Income> escott they are pdf
[23:55] <escott> Income, a couple possibilities (I'm not sure what a backup/xtrash file is) but you could rename them to something.pdf and see if they are legible as pdfs
[23:55] <kingofswords> hi how do i set the brightness lower when ubuntu boots?
[23:55] <snii> escott: Does booting into single user mode also require a livecd?
[23:55] <escott> if these are downloaded from somewhere they may also be in your /tmp or in your ~/Downloads
[23:56] <escott> snii, no but you won't have web access or gui the way you do with livecd
[23:56] <akour> so whats the coolest IRC client for ubuntu
[23:56] <akour> ?
[23:56] <thedragon4453> alrighty, here goes. I ran an update on 10.04 and now it won't boot into x.  It get's to the splash screen and just hangs on "Loading..." if i ctrl-alt-f1/f2/f3 around I can eventually find a screen that says something like /dev/disk/by-uuid/f14b<etc> doesn't exist.
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> !info  libavcodec-extra-52
[23:57] <DasEi> !best | akour
[23:57] <DasEi> !messenger | akour
[23:57] <desg_xd> how do i open up .rar files?
[23:57] <kingofswords> akour, xchat
[23:57] <Pelo> is it just me or is this the worst upgrade ever
[23:57] <jibadeeha> anyone find that when they log out and back in again that ~/.gvfs hasn't been umounted properly
[23:58] <DasEi> Pelo: worst as in was ? size ?
[23:58] <Pelo> desg_xd, sudo apt-get install unrar , then it should be available from extract file in the context menu
[23:58] <jibadeeha> df: '/home/jibadeeha/.gvfs': No such file or directory
[23:58] <akour> @kingofswords thats what im using right now . thanks.
[23:58] <snii> escott: The thing is, the machine is booting and running xubuntu from a USB stick, and I have only 2 ports and no cdrom, so I cannot boot from another livecd/usb. I can start the system and get logged in, but sudo doesn't work... Only having console is no problem if I can somehow fix the problem through it.
[23:58] <escott> thedragon4453, boot the live cd and check what ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid says and verify that your grub.cfg and /etc/fstab on the ubuntu system are correct
[23:58] <akour> WOW , you guys are awesome
[23:58] <kingofswords> gnomexchat not so good thou
[23:59] <Pelo> DasEi, number of problems,  evolution unusable , frozen screen when coming back from screen off etc
[23:59] <escott> snii, plug the usb stick into an other linux system and edit the usb stick from it
[23:59] <akour> I'm a pure ubuntu user and i know the support is awesome but since i joind this chat channel
[23:59] <akour> it was much awesomeness
[23:59] <spirals> akour: There is enough awesome to go around for everyone.


[01:32] <cmaloney> iirc Apple Darwin was always somewhat OSS
[01:32] <cmaloney> it was the pieces like Cocoa and the other stuff that weren't OSS
[01:32] <cmaloney> https://opensource.apple.com/release/developer-tools-821.html
[01:32] <cmaloney> This is all the stuff that was already FLOSS
[18:25] <Scary_Guy> if it was open source was it floss or just foss?  what license do they normally use?
[18:32] <jrwren> Something additional was open sourced beyond what previous bits of Darwin were open source, but I've no idea WHAT those piecees are.
[18:32] <jrwren> Darwin has been open source since it started.
[19:08] <cmaloney> yeah, the kernel was oss
[19:09] <cmaloney> thiugh you'd be hard pressed to make a mac from the f/loss bits of macosx
[19:20] <jrwren> impossible.
[19:20] <jrwren> like you said, none of AppKit is open source.
[19:21] <jrwren> most of the things here: https://developer.apple.com/macos/  aren't open source or open at all.
[19:21] <jrwren> same with the things here: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/
[19:26] <cmaloney> So it's literally open-core, but not open anything else
[19:26] <cmaloney> "Here, here's a stem foryou to play with
[19:26] <cmaloney> "and some seeds"
[19:26] <cmaloney> What aboutthe actual flesh of the apple
[19:27] <cmaloney> "If you even THINK of copying that we will sue you into oblivion"
[19:28] <cmaloney> O>  O<
[19:32] <jrwren> Oh yes, I don't think apple or anyone is claiming anything else.
[19:32] <jrwren> there is a GNU project to recreate parts of appkit. that Next window manager came out of it.
[19:32] <jrwren> http://gnustep.org
[19:33] <cmaloney> Yeah, I remember that
[19:36] <cmaloney> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFSTnZM27Gc
[19:47] <cmaloney> Oh my, there's even Open GEM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TYUsL74ERU


[00:23] <sarnold> Phruis: this is a good starting point https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/kernel/power
[00:24] <sarnold> Phruis: each architecture is also going to have arch-specific code too https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/x86/power
[00:50] <xnox> infinity:  thank you for your klibc upstream comments.
[02:00] <Phruis> sarnold, thanks
[11:34] <seb128> ddstreet, hey, do you plan another bionic/n-m SRU? I need to do one for a fix but I saw you have bug #1850267 in progress
[11:42] <xnox> doko: thank you for removing the requested python2 django things
[11:43] <xnox> doko:  i actually think there might be more to remove..... some of them smell like ex-Ubuntu1 team shipping things they use in production, which they don't anymore.
[11:45] <xnox> doko:  btw, i think to migrate mailer & piston, i need AA to remove _binaries only_ of python-django-mailer python-django-piston3
[11:46] <xnox> because they are now only python3-django-mailer and python3-django-piston3
[11:46] <xnox> (dropped python2 packages)
[11:52] <doko> xnox: django-piston3 ftbs in -proposed
[11:52] <xnox> ah
[11:53] <xnox> doko:  eh?! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/django-piston3/0.3~rc2-3ubuntu9
[11:53] <xnox> doko:  it was in error an arch:any package, changed to arch:all package
[11:53] <xnox> so it claims to be "missing" on all arches
[11:53] <xnox> but it totally did build
[11:53] <doko> ahh, I see
[11:54] <xnox> i don't know what AA need to do when a package goes from arch:any to arch:all
[11:54] <doko> silly britney
[11:54] <xnox> doko:  some of the packaging in these is beyond silly too. So never mind britney.
[11:55] <xnox> doko:  but python-django-piston3 binary needs to be removed, which was arch;any and now is fully gone
[11:55] <xnox> doko:  and that is the one that britney correctly complains about
[11:55] <xnox> (not the python3 one)
[11:56] <xnox> so actually it's complaining about the dropped arch:any python2 package
[11:56] <xnox> doko:  django-ratelimit is actually miss-upload, and should be removed src from -proposed just like you already removed from release.
[11:58] <doko> .
[12:01] <gpiccoli> hi rbasak, can we discuss LP #1847924 when you have some minutes? Thanks!
[12:05] <xnox> gpiccoli:  my biggesst worry about that one is "degraded boot" however that also makes no sence in raid0 case =)
[12:06] <gpiccoli> hey xnox! Yeah, I don't think the patch could cause degraded boot, it could cause in worst case, for example, a failure in a parsing tool for raid0 status if that doesn't cope with broken state hehe
[12:07] <gpiccoli> in order to patch getting "triggered", raid0 must be already in a bad state
[12:26] <ddstreet> seb128 i don't have anything else for nm, feel free to take that bug, i'm pretty sure it only needs dnsmasq-base added to the test/control file Depends: for that test.  thanks!
[12:27] <seb128> ddstreet, thanks!
[12:59] <ahasenack> infinity: hi, there is no verification tag to flip in bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1849665
[12:59] <ahasenack> I can of course add one, but did the script fail?
[12:59] <ahasenack> the sru script that adds the comment with instructions, I mean
[13:16] <rbasak> gpiccoli: o/
[13:17] <gpiccoli> o/ rbasak
[13:17] <rbasak> Thank you for your reply in the bug
[13:17] <gpiccoli> You're welcome, thank you for the valid concerns!
[13:18] <rbasak> gpiccoli: so on the first point, I'd like the Regression Potential section to detail where regressions are most likely to occur in order to inform review and testing.
[13:18] <rbasak> THat's documented at https://xdsports.uk/weight-belt
[13:19] <rbasak> Uh
[13:19] <rbasak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure
[13:19] <rbasak> On the second point, I'm hoping to reduce the scope in worrying about the impact to consumers of mdadm
[13:20] <gpiccoli> hehe sure rbasak, I'll add the Regressions Potential! my bad not adding before
[13:20] <rbasak> Is it possible/correct to state that, if an array is not in the new failed state, the observable behaviour for a user of mdadm will be the same in all cases following the patch?
[13:20] <rbasak> s/the same/exactly identical/
[13:21] <gpiccoli> rbasak, it should, but to be completely accurate with you, I'll check all states and a comment in the bug, showing it doesn't change (except for broken), or, if changes, how so
[13:22] <gpiccoli> *add a comment
[13:22] <rbasak> gpiccoli: that would be useful - thanks!
[13:22] <gpiccoli> Just to speed up things,
[13:22] <gpiccoli> what if it changes?
[13:22] <rbasak> With that knowledge we can reduce the scope of what we need to consider.
[13:22] <gpiccoli> ok - perfect
[13:22] <rbasak> If it changes then we need to consider what consumes that
[13:22] <rbasak> Eg. will we break some tool that parses mdadm output, such as monitoring tools?
[13:22] <gpiccoli> great, makes sense!
[13:23] <gpiccoli> after adding regression potential and such comment, I will ping you again, thanks a lot !
[13:23] <rbasak> If the output is identical except in the new failed state, then that breakage would be limited to a failure that wasn't accounted for by the monitoring tool anyway, in which case arguably the new situation would be better anyway
[13:23]  * xnox ponders if X should have a "clear after timeout" or like "clear after one paste" for all of the copy&paste functionality.
[13:24] <rbasak> I swear I pressed Ctrl-C, and that this happens to me more often than what would be explained by user error
[13:24] <rbasak> I suspect that Firefox has some condition when it doesn't actually copy.
[13:25] <gpiccoli> makes sense rbasak, thank you o/
[13:26] <xnox> rbasak:  i find that focus follows mouse interferes sometimes. I.e. copy only happens from a "focused" window.
[13:28] <rbasak> gpiccoli: oh, one more point. On User Impact, right now it sounds like a theoretical bug only. Could you detail why we need an SRU? Are users hitting the problem in practice, for example?
[13:29] <rbasak> It's OK if the answer is that it's theoretical but data loss is severe enough that you want to pre-emptively fix it.
[13:29] <rbasak> But I'd like that documented if so
[13:29] <gpiccoli> ok rbasak, thanks for the heads-up aboutthis
[13:30] <rbasak> xnox: I think it does have something to do with focus change, though in my case I'm using pretty much entirely GNOME defaults on this.
[13:52] <slashd> teward, I have tested on focal with ipv6 disable using nginx '1.17.5-0ubuntu1', and everything went well to that regard.
[14:08] <seb128> bdmurray, hey, can you get the rygel/eoan SRU moved to -updates now rather than waiting for the full week period? the bug it fixes is rather important and it got properly verified
[14:12] <xnox> coreycb:  hey, can you please explain to me the manila-ui 0ubuntu2 upload which says "d/control: Ensure python3-django is << 2:2.2.4." ?
[14:12] <xnox> coreycb:  is there like a >> 2:2.2.X version that is also good? I'm trying to do migration to 2.2.6 in focal now.
[14:16] <coreycb> xnox: hey, that should've been changed back to python3-django >= 1:1.11. it was an attempt that was later reverted but apparently not for manila-ui.
[14:17] <coreycb> xnox: upstream openstack should be getting 2.2.4 support this cycle
[14:18] <coreycb> xnox: bug 1842969 fyi. I'll fix that for manila-ui in focal and eoan though.
[14:24] <xnox> coreycb:  so it needs this cherrypick too https://github.com/openstack/manila-ui/commit/83a0e432fe475a263c2f5e5337511db96263c3b8.patch
[14:24] <xnox> coreycb:  but otherwise it builds..... i have a package ready and can just upload it.
[14:25] <coreycb> xnox: ah, ok great. thanks just let me know when you do and i'll apply your debdiff to our master branch.
[14:26] <xnox> coreycb: ack. If even that, cause it will not be needed with any new/next upstream release.
[14:26] <xnox> coreycb:  also less than 1:1.11 is pre-xenial, imho such a version constraint is a bit redundant.
[14:29] <coreycb> xnox:  i think you meant greater than, and I agree that's redundant
[14:30] <xnox> yes and yes
[14:33] <xnox> coreycb:  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/450008718/manila-ui_1%3A2.19.0-0ubuntu1_1%3A2.19.0-0ubuntu2.diff.gz if you must
[14:34] <coreycb> xnox: thanks
[15:06] <kanashiro> I git clone'd the python-tornado package using git-ubuntu and the content in ubuntu/devel branch is not the same in the archive (ubuntu/devel has 4.5.3-1 and in focal the version is 5.1.1-4ubuntu5 according to rmadison), did something go wrong here?
[15:09] <kanashiro> rbasak, ^
[15:11] <rafaeldtinoco> kanashiro: has the migration failed ?
[15:12] <rafaeldtinoco> sometimes branch was updated, archive has the source package but it hasnt migrated yet due to excuses
[15:14] <rbasak> mwhudson: pandas import done (at 12:19)
[15:15] <rbasak> 2019-11-02 18:46:53|python-tornado|1572720413.91573|error|20
[15:15] <rbasak> kanashiro: ^ looks like an import failure
[15:16] <rbasak> The cause is bug 1764814
[15:17] <rbasak> I'm working on that now as it happens, but I don't expect the fix to land for a few days
[15:18] <rbasak> kanashiro: you can do the merge without git-ubuntu, but in your case I suggest moving on to another package for now
[15:19] <kanashiro> rbasak, ack, I'll move to the next then
[15:34] <bdmurray> seb128: Sure, that reminds me we noticed rygel uses a lot of memory during its postinst. We had to bump the automatic upgrade testing units memory allotment because it was hanging on rygel.
[15:35] <seb128> bdmurray, how much?
[15:35] <seb128> bdmurray, and thx :)
[15:38] <bdmurray> seb128: from 1G to 2G which while that is the recommended amount of RAM it was still surprising.
[15:38] <seb128> bdmurray, thx for pointing it out, I will have a look, that seems buggy
[15:40] <bdmurray> seb128: Thanks - I forgot to fill a bug during the flurry of the release sprint.
[15:40] <Eickmeyer> Oof.. bug 1851346 hitting Ubuntu Studio like a nasty ton of bricks.
[15:45] <Laney> does anyone know if it is possible to use the output of dh_listpackages in the clean target? I'm just getting all packages, probably because it doesn't know if it's doing arch, arch+indep, indep at that point, I guess
[15:45] <Laney> alternatively: how can I conditionally act in clean based on whether I'm building indep packages or not?
[15:53] <Laney> or maybe I need to do something else altogether
[15:54] <Laney> basically: dh-sequence-foo doesn't work in B-D-I and is documented as such, and I don't know how to manually pass the --with= properly for the clean target if I specify the real package in B-D-I instead
[15:59] <teward> slashd: good, then we know that works fine now.  :)
[16:06] <slashd> teward, indeed
[18:08] <andrewsh> hi
[18:08] <andrewsh> can please someone look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/685319?
[18:08] <andrewsh> at the moment there’s nobody to review and/or approve Slovak translations for a lot of things on Launchpad
[18:08] <andrewsh> I’d like to change that
[18:10] <cjwatson> andrewsh: Queued up but I can't look at it today as I have to finish up
[18:10] <andrewsh> thanks!
[18:11] <cjwatson> GunnarHj: ^- would be useful if you could verify that - I'm not totally sure on the conventions for the Ubuntu-specific vs. LP-wide translation teams
[18:11] <cjwatson> (if you can, of course)
[18:35] <GunnarHj> cjwatson: I'm not a member of "Launchpad Translations Coordinators" (only "Ubuntu Translations Coordinators").
[18:36] <GunnarHj> andrewsh: How come you are not a member of ~ubuntu-l10n-sk? I'm asking because normally there are local procedures in place to approve new translators.
[18:51] <ahasenack> rafaeldtinoco: around?
[18:52] <rafaeldtinoco> ahasenack: yep, just saw your update
[18:52] <rafaeldtinoco> will dput
[18:52] <ahasenack> rafaeldtinoco: when building the source packages for the corosync and pacemaker upload,
[18:52] <rafaeldtinoco> thx!
[18:52] <ahasenack> rafaeldtinoco: use the right -v option
[18:52] <ahasenack> or use git ubuntu build-source -v --sign --for-merge
[18:52] <ahasenack> "--for-merge" being the thing that adds the correct -v parameter
[18:52] <rafaeldtinoco> ah good to know
[18:52] <ahasenack> it should be the previous ubuntu version
[18:52] <ahasenack> so that the changes file includes the debian releases up until this merge
[18:53] <ahasenack> you can open the changes file to take a look
[18:53] <ahasenack> it must start with the first non-ubuntu version, and go all the way up to the version you are uploading
[18:53] <ahasenack> rafaeldtinoco: --for-merge also takes care of fetching the correct orig tarball in the case it's a new upstream version
[18:54] <ahasenack> and also passes the right options to dpkg-buildpackage to include the orig tarball in the upload in that case
[18:54] <rafaeldtinoco> ahasenack: i dont use the git ubuntu build-source
[18:54] <rafaeldtinoco> but I do use dpkg-buildpackage
[18:54] <ahasenack> that's why I'm saying all of this :)
[18:54] <rafaeldtinoco> u know the exact flags it does ?
[18:55] <ahasenack> rafaeldtinoco: check dpkg-genchanges, it's -sa for the orig tarball
[18:55] <rafaeldtinoco> -sa <- for the new upstream
[18:55] <rafaeldtinoco> right ?
[18:55] <ahasenack> yes, but you need to have it locally
[18:55] <rafaeldtinoco> yep I do
[18:55] <ahasenack> it won't generate the tarball for you, it will just include it in the upload
[18:55] <rafaeldtinoco> I have generated the source packages already
[18:55] <rafaeldtinoco> i was mostly concerned on the signing
[18:55] <rafaeldtinoco> you mentioned
[18:55] <ahasenack> and -v
[18:56] <rafaeldtinoco> I use dpkg-buildpackage -S -k$MYKEY -sa
[18:56] <ahasenack> you need -v
[18:56] <rafaeldtinoco> ok
[18:56] <ahasenack> also a parameter that makes its way to dpkg-genchanges (via dpkg-buildpackage)
[18:56] <ahasenack> rafaeldtinoco: for pacemaker, for example
[18:57] <ahasenack> rafaeldtinoco: you would use -v2.0.1-4ubuntu2
[18:57] <rafaeldtinoco> ah gotcha
[18:57] <rafaeldtinoco> the previous one
[18:57] <ahasenack> rafaeldtinoco: then check the changes file, it should be listing 2.0.1-5 and 2.0.1-5ubuntu1
[18:57] <rafaeldtinoco> cool let me give it a try
[18:57] <ahasenack> as these are "all the changes in that package since the last time it was uploaded to ubuntu"
[18:57] <ahasenack> including debian changes
[18:58] <ahasenack> so if 2.0.1-5 for example closed an ubuntu bug, launchpad would auto-close it, since that version (and the mention of the bug) is included in the changes file
[18:59] <ahasenack> rafaeldtinoco: pacemaker is not a new upstream release, so no -sa needed
[18:59] <rafaeldtinoco> yep, only corosync
[18:59] <ahasenack> yep
[18:59] <rafaeldtinoco> I realized that when doing the source package locally
[18:59] <rafaeldtinoco> it complains about the missing .tar.gz
[18:59] <rafaeldtinoco> then I get it
[18:59] <ahasenack> yes
[19:00] <ahasenack> I suggest pull-debian-source -d
[19:00] <rafaeldtinoco> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xoB688RL/
[19:00] <rafaeldtinoco> ahasenack: yep, i use pull-lp and pull-debian
[19:00] <rafaeldtinoco> pls check the pastebin
[19:00] <rafaeldtinoco> for the signed changes
[19:00] <ahasenack> I don't know if pull-lp-source handles debs from debian, I guess it could, since they are also stored in lp
[19:00] <rafaeldtinoco> if looks good
[19:00] <rafaeldtinoco> ahasenack: the version ddstreet did
[19:01] <rafaeldtinoco> supports debian and ubuntu iirc
[19:01] <rafaeldtinoco> but not sure if it was merged or not
[19:01] <ahasenack> rafaeldtinoco: hm, that changes is incorrect
[19:01] <ahasenack> rafaeldtinoco: where are the changelog changes we talked about yesterday?
[19:01] <rafaeldtinoco> oh wait
[19:01] <ahasenack> Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed: 1828228 <-- it's fixing that bug again, for example
[19:01] <ddstreet> rafaeldtinoco not yet, sorry, it's on my todo list
[19:01] <ddstreet> you can use ppa:ddstreet/ubuntu-dev-tools if you want
[19:02] <rafaeldtinoco> ahasenack: its wrong indeed, and it wasnt
[19:02] <rafaeldtinoco> i wonder if my cron did something to my local branch
[19:02] <rafaeldtinoco> let me fix that andreas
[19:02] <ahasenack> it's your first dput, be careful :)
[19:02] <rafaeldtinoco> yep yep
[19:02] <rafaeldtinoco> ddstreet: were your changes accepted ?
[19:02] <rafaeldtinoco> from that time... or not yet ?
[19:02] <rafaeldtinoco> its been what ? 2 years :P
[19:02] <ddstreet> rafaeldtinoco well...i gave up after over a year
[19:02] <rafaeldtinoco> lol
[19:02] <rafaeldtinoco> i remember there was some cool features
[19:03] <rafaeldtinoco> to download previous versions
[19:03] <ddstreet> but i am not painstakingly rebasing and splitting things up so i can open multiple merge requests to get it added
[19:03] <rafaeldtinoco> gotcha
[19:03] <ddstreet> it just is quite time-intensive since my code is really, really far from what's in git
[19:03] <ddstreet> yeah, you can even download deleted pkgs or from -security ppa
[19:04] <ddstreet> i'm going to add pulling from upload queues when i have a minute also
[19:04] <ddstreet> sorry i meant 'now ...rebasing' above, 'not' was a typo
[19:04] <rafaeldtinoco> ahasenack: wow, i was in the wrong computer
[19:05] <ahasenack> dude
[19:05] <rafaeldtinoco> ahasenack: #) that is the bad thing about having 2 or 3 computers
[19:05] <rafaeldtinoco> lol
[19:05] <rafaeldtinoco> ill delete my local branches from the one
[19:05] <rafaeldtinoco> im not using for this never to happen again
[19:05]  * rafaeldtinoco fear
[19:05] <ahasenack> double check the hash that was approved in the mp
[19:05] <ahasenack> otherwise the upload tag is useless
[19:05] <rafaeldtinoco> ddstreet: ill play with it
[19:05] <rafaeldtinoco> maybe i can help you out with the merges/split
[19:06] <rafaeldtinoco> ahasenack: it would not upload
[19:06] <rafaeldtinoco> relax
[19:06] <rafaeldtinoco> i would not force things for sure
[19:06] <rafaeldtinoco> but i wont have any "git ubuntu" local branches
[19:06] <rafaeldtinoco> in the machine I dont use for coding
[19:06] <rafaeldtinoco> that is a good thing to be done = )
[19:07] <ddstreet> rafaeldtinoco thnx, and my git for it is https://code.launchpad.net/~ddstreet/ubuntu-dev-tools/+git/ubuntu-dev-tools, mostly in the 'work' and 'work_cp*' branches
[19:07] <rafaeldtinoco> ddstreet: i can see you rebasing things :o)
[19:07] <rafaeldtinoco> rebase-orig rebase-orig
[19:07] <rafaeldtinoco> lol
[20:03] <infinity> vorlon, mdeslaur, kees, stgraber: TB?
[20:05] <marcoagpinto> infinity: Thunderbird?
[20:05] <marcoagpinto> :p
[20:35] <rafaeldtinoco> ahasenack: ping
[20:35] <rafaeldtinoco> ahasenack: sorry got preempt here
[20:35] <rafaeldtinoco> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/7OqGRPY7/
[20:35] <rafaeldtinoco> just checking one more time before the 1st
[20:35] <rafaeldtinoco> then it will be smoother =)
[20:38] <rafaeldtinoco> ok, looks good, double checked, moving on