[04:27] <kinja-sheep> DJ_HaMsTa: Meaning not everything will works for everybody because of different machines.
[04:28] <brjann> fivetwentysix: meanwhile, afk two minutes :)
[04:28] <fivetwentysix> brjann:  ready
[04:28] <DJ_HaMsTa> ah
[04:28] <DJ_HaMsTa> got it
[04:28] <fivetwentysix> brjann: okay ill go for a smoke
[04:28] <DJ_HaMsTa> how can i fix it? lol
[04:28] <slimjimflim> anybody know how to watch veoh w/o wine?
[04:28] <kinja-sheep> DJ_HaMsTa: I imagine you should try configuring few things.  I used to have a launcher that will push me into standby immediately (rather than idling). I'm trying to find it.
[04:29] <andruk> rsync seems to be transferring the entirety of each file im trying to transfer, instead of transferring the deltas.  is this normal?
[04:29] <DJ_HaMsTa> thank you
[04:29] <Jon-> chd: Google is your friend. Try: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-rhythmbox-not-playing-mp3-in-ubuntu-karmic.html   or   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras   in terminal should also do the trick.
[04:29] <Jon-> Still having an issue with an HP F4180 printer, accessing through an SAMBA share from a Windows2000 PC using karmic. Issue: The HP F4100 series driver only causes my printer to spin-up and not actually print when sending a job [probably due to the job not being sent properly and the printer rejecting it]. Any ideas/anything I can do, or is this just compatibility fail? Please help. Thank you.
[04:30] <FloodBot2> Jon-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:30] <chd> Jon-, I've sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras to no avail
[04:30] <chd> Jon-, I'll check out your link, thanky ou
[04:31] <brjann> !google > Jon-
[04:31] <slimjimflim> how to veoh?????
[04:31] <kinja-sheep> DJ_HaMsTa: Try "xset dpms force off" but that should get same result for you though.
[04:31] <ryanrhee90> hi all. I have a server install of ubuntu that's been so hacked that i really just want to start over. the thing is, it's a dedicated server and i don't have physical access to it. Getting an IP-KVM would cost money. I basically want to re-install the OS without killing the OS. (I.e. just removing all apps and reverting everything back to 'factory settings' without having to remove the OS.) How can I accomplish this?
[04:31] <Kristopher1> Hey so I had ubuntu karmic installed, and then went ahead with installing windows7 on another harddisk. I am in a livecd right now, how do I restore my grub2 (giving it windows options as well)
[04:31] <kinja-sheep> DJ_HaMsTa: Perhaps "xset dpms force off && sleep 3" and don't touch anything for short. You get black screen.
[04:32] <Jon-> chd: If you have further issue PM me
[04:32] <DJ_HaMsTa> kk
[04:32] <DJ_HaMsTa> be back in 4 mins lol
[04:32] <ryanrhee90> Kristopher1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:32] <rww> Kristopher1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD
[04:33] <Kristopher1> thanks ryanrhee90, rww
[04:33] <gantrixx> Did Ubuntu just upgrade to Thunderbird 3?
[04:33] <brjann> fivetwentysix: back when you are
[04:33] <fivetwentysix> brjann: back
[04:34] <kinja-sheep> gantrixx: I don't think so. In Lucid, it will. Also, if it is not, use mozilla's daily ppa for that one.
[04:34] <fivetwentysix> brjann: by the way, thank you so much for your support so far, really appreciate it
[04:34] <Jon-> Printer issue, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/386073/
[04:34] <brjann> fivetwentysix: alright. right click on the (still spinning?) network manager icon and go to Edit Connections
[04:34] <brjann> fivetwentysix: not a problem :)
[04:34] <gantrixx> My TB2 has gone away
[04:34] <fivetwentysix> brjann: okay
[04:34] <gantrixx> and TB3 is here now
[04:34] <fivetwentysix> brjann: add new connection right?
[04:34] <brjann> fivetwentysix: you should be on the Wired tab; is there anything there already?
[04:35] <fivetwentysix> brjann: auto ethernet only
[04:35] <brjann> fivetwentysix: okay, that's hopefully the one that used to work. click that and click edit...
[04:35] <fivetwentysix> brjann: no i deleted the one that used to work but it didnt have any special settings in it anyways
[04:35] <demonspork> I have a 5.1 speaker setup with Ubuntu 9.10. VLC media player doesn't allow me to hear voices no matter what I use, it doesn't output that to any of the speaker channels
[04:35] <ryanrhee90> anyone? resetting ubuntu to original settings without killing the OS? :(
[04:36] <fivetwentysix> brjann: okay so i clicked edit
[04:36] <brjann> fivetwentysix: ah, okay. so we're editing the only one that was left now, right?
[04:36] <fivetwentysix> brjann: yes
[04:36] <pangolin_rollin> gps shows data under # cat /dev/ttyUSB0 but does not show up in gpsdrive!!?? reasons?
[04:36] <brjann> fivetwentysix: okay. we'll go through the tabs one by one based on what mine currently says :)
[04:36] <slimjimflim> anybody ever figured out how to watch flash movies on veoh.com without resorting to wine?
[04:36] <GeekSquid> ryanrhee90: that would be possible, what part is hacked ... the os or the server datum, also what was it serving
[04:36] <mbrigdan> Anyone know of a music player similar to Amarok 1.4? Amarok2 is crippled, and I can't stand using it.
[04:37] <brjann> fivetwentysix: connect automatically checked, mac is whatever, mtu automatic, available to all users checked
[04:37] <kinja-sheep> ryanrhee90: A such thing really does exist? I would imagine it is not. (at least not entirely).
[04:37] <fivetwentysix> brjann: next
[04:37] <slimjimflim> mbrigdan: vlc and kmplayer are nice
[04:37] <fivetwentysix> brjann: 802.1x security
[04:37] <ryanrhee90> GeekSquid, the server is doing a bunch of stuff - DNS, OpenVPN, Apache, mail+imap, LAMP, etc, etc.
[04:37] <brjann> fivetwentysix: you may want to open up a terminal, run ifconfig, and make sure the mac address displayed matched the HWaddr for eth0
[04:38] <pangolin_rollin> testing.. anyone see this message?
[04:38] <Jon-> mbrigdan: VLC is my favourite, but it lacks some big library + music killer support. Sort of a "just works" media player that has slowly added on features like that.
[04:38] <fivetwentysix> brjann: done
[04:38] <brjann> fivetwentysix: okay. 802.1x security unchecked
[04:38] <fivetwentysix> brjann: IPv4 settings
[04:39] <brjann> fivetwentysix: method: automatic
[04:39] <mbrigdan> Jon-, VLC is one of my favourite media players too (all my video), but it doesn't have anything in terms of managing my music library, or transferring songs to devices
[04:39] <RfooTfoo> can someone help me locate my .htaccess file that is active? I need to change the password and I cant locate it! lol
[04:39] <GeekSquid> ryanrhee90: I'd start by backing up everything ... .. Is this a LTS version?
[04:39] <fivetwentysix> brjann: i thought we want to set an ip?
[04:39] <ryanrhee90> GeekSquid: the OS actually came with a custom kernel. i didn't realize this until i noticed that openvpn wouldn't load any kernel modules. I changed the kernel to the LTS. Basically, this was my first time using Ubuntu so everything on here isn't quite right. Now that I kind of know my way around, Yes, it is an LTS version
[04:39] <brjann> fivetwentysix: we can, after we've verified the settings and tried dhcp again
[04:39] <ryanrhee90> GeekSquid: Also, everything has already been backed up.
[04:39] <fivetwentysix> brjann: still doent work
[04:39] <brjann> fivetwentysix: we're not there yet :)
[04:40] <brjann> fivetwentysix: go back into editing that connection, on the ipv4 tab
[04:40] <mbrigdan> slimjimflim, both of those are nice, but not quite what I'm going for. I'm looking for more an iTunes replacement, which Amarok 1.4 did quite well
[04:40] <fivetwentysix> brjann: and?
[04:40] <brjann> fivetwentysix: click the routes button at the bottom and ensure that it's empty and the two boxes are unchecked
[04:41] <fivetwentysix> brjann: yup
[04:41] <brjann> fivetwentysix: okay, onto the ipv6 tab. should be method: ignore
[04:41] <GeekSquid> ryanrhee90: I'd wait until the middle of April ... the next LTS is coming out ... everything would be updated, .. then you'd prolly have some fixing to do, but it would be a far cry from a in place reinstallation
[04:41] <harisund> I have installed karmic-server, and I have setup my eth0 to be static. Yet, in my /var/log/syslog I keep seeing messages CONSTANTLY of eth1 trying to acquire an IP through DHCP from my router (and acquiring too) .. Why does it happen?
[04:41] <fivetwentysix> brjann: yup
[04:42] <brjann> fivetwentysix: alright, click apply.
[04:42] <ryanrhee90> GeekSquid: Alright, that sounds fine. However, when I upgrade this coming april, wouldn't I still need to ... 'wipe everything down'? (remove everything & start over)?
[04:42] <fivetwentysix> brjann: still not working
[04:42] <brjann> fivetwentysix: bummer. alright, static ip then
[04:42] <Jon-> Printer issue, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/386073/
[04:42] <Iron_Man> hello
[04:42] <fivetwentysix> brjann: ok
[04:42] <brjann> fivetwentysix: back to the ipv4 tab
[04:42] <Iron_Man> i need some assistance
[04:42] <Iron_Man> linux newbie
[04:43] <arand> !ask | Iron_Man
[04:43] <Iron_Man> my laptop battery is not charging for some reason
[04:43] <brjann> fivetwentysix: method: manual. click add, insert an address like <IP_ADDRESS>, netmask <IP_ADDRESS>, and gateway <IP_ADDRESS> (i'm assuming that's your router's IP)
[04:44] <Iron_Man> i found a package on that will help me make it work again
[04:44] <thesoprano08> #ubuntu-pa
[04:44] <jmq> noob question. How would I download a zip file from some url in the console?
[04:44] <Iron_Man> but the file is on .ISO
[04:44] <Iron_Man> how do i use an .ISO file
[04:44] <brjann> fivetwentysix: for DNS, if your router can act as a DNS server, put its ip; otherwise, you can use google's public DNS service: <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:44] <arand> jmq: wget is one option
[04:44] <GeekSquid> ryanrhee90: if you upgrade from LTS 8.04 to LTS 10.04, just about every file on the server is going to be replaced, except for your data, essentially cleaning it too, I;d change some passwords, clean up some SQL tables and get the latest DNS data, but other than that, I think you'd be good to go
[04:44] <Iron_Man> arand
[04:45] <dsnyders> Has anybody gotten kpovmodeler working in 9.04?
[04:45] <ryanrhee90> GeekSquid: so when i upgrade to the next LTS, what would happen to the config files?
[04:45] <fivetwentysix> brjann: google has a dns service?
[04:45] <arand> Iron_Man: you should be able to right-click, open with, archive mounter.
[04:45] <brjann> fivetwentysix: yep, since december
[04:46] <fivetwentysix> brjann: wow, is it me or does it even perform faster than my isp's dns server
[04:46] <brjann> fivetwentysix: search domains you can leave blank
[04:46] <fivetwentysix> brjann:  itworks btw
[04:46] <brjann> fivetwentysix: probably not you, ISP DNSes are notoriously bad ;)
[04:46] <brjann> fivetwentysix: great! i have no idea what's wrong with DHCP unfortunately
[04:47] <islington> where does amarok save its podcasts?
[04:47] <GeekSquid> ryanrhee90: that is what you have to make sure to backup .. some would be replaced, others appended, but you would still have a working environment from which to reconfigure everything
[04:47] <brjann> fivetwentysix: but if you're happy with static, i'm happy
[04:47] <Iron_Man> arand, i will try it now, hold on a sec
[04:47] <ryanrhee90> GeekSquid: i'd actually want ALL my config files deleted, if possible. that's essentially what i'm going for here :)
[04:47] <NotTooSmart> ls -lh /crypt/files; read sent over ssh returns: <IP_ADDRESS>: command not found, any ideas. I was told ; read stops the window from closing so the command shold stat the dir but it doesn't
[04:48] <pangolin_rollin> gps shows device input under # cat /dev/ttyUSB0 but doesn't show up when running gpsdrive?? reasons?
[04:48] <Iron_Man> Arand, i did it , but how do i use it now
[04:48] <arand> Iron_Man: what are the contents of it?
[04:49] <Jon-> Printer issue, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/386073/  I've been helping a lot of people on here while waiting haha
[04:49] <brjann> fivetwentysix: it's possible someone in #gnome could help you troubleshoot networkmanager specifically, since it's a gnome project now, if you're interested
[04:49] <Iron_Man> it has a bunch of folders
[04:49] <GeekSquid> ryanrhee90: define config files ... /etc/resolv.conf is a config file, but you'd never want to change it - if you did you would loose networking, same for /etc/network/interfaces ... get my point ...
[04:49] <Iron_Man> either way it seems that would not fix my issue
[04:50] <Iron_Man> arand,
[04:50] <Iron_Man> my battery keeps showing a message that is discharging
[04:50] <Iron_Man> but i just bought that battery like a month ago
[04:50] <ryanrhee90> GeekSquid: oh yeah, haha, sorry. i meant application config files - as in httpd.conf, or php.ini, etc, etc
[04:51] <Iron_Man> and i was looking for an application that will allow me to test my battery
[04:51]  * pangolin_rollin Waves hello
[04:51] <DJ> hey yall
[04:52] <dsnyders> Has anybody gotten kpovmodeler working in 9.04?
[04:52] <fivetwentysix> brjann: that's okay, thank you so much
[04:52] <brjann> fivetwentysix: you're welcome :)
[04:53] <Jon-> Printer issue, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/386073/
[04:53] <pangolin_rollin> anyone have gps experience?
[04:54] <fivetwentysix> brjann: Hey would you know how to overwrite the boot loader for my pc at home, I want to install linux on it since i got 3 harddrives, 2 of which are empty, however it's a dell xps 9000 and I cant seem to be able to boot from cd :-(
[04:55] <airtonix> !enter | Iron_Man
[04:55] <brjann> fivetwentysix: and you can't reorder the boot devices in the BIOS setup?
[04:55] <arand> Iron_Man: If you simply run "gnome-power-statistics" from the alt+F2 prompt you should et some battery info, provided they are detected correctly
[04:55] <fivetwentysix> brjann: There is no bios setup
[04:56] <gilbertthebrain> Could someone tell me if Ubuntu is DEB or rpm based?
[04:56] <MrPockets> man
[04:56] <MrPockets> my nutty install went and changed a buncha stuff to crazy language in a crazy font
[04:56] <GeekSquid> ryanrhee90: for httpd.conf blanking it would be fine, whereas deleting it would be a bad idea, as for php.ini it will be replaced by the next version of php4 or 5 ... apache is a server .. php is a set of libraries that allow for parsing of php data, I don't consider them applications, I consider the webapps that exist within the webroot the application and the infrastructure that allows that to be served is the LAMP stack ... follow?
[04:57] <Jon-> fivetwentysix: There is... no.. BIOS setup?
[04:57] <brjann> fivetwentysix: really? i've never seen a dell that didn't have a BIOS setup you could get to by wailing on F2 while the logo was onscreen
[04:57] <airtonix> gilbertthebrain, ubuntu is based on debian...
[04:57] <rww> gilbertthebrain: deb
[04:58] <brjann> fivetwentysix: similarly i've always been able to get to a boot options prompt by hitting F11
[04:58] <gilbertthebrain> thanks
[04:58] <ryanrhee90> hrm. okay. well web apps are independent, i can just remove their directory. I'm talking more like ... apache itself, for example. i'd rather just delete any trace of apache2 on my machine and re-install it using apt-get, cuz i'm almost certain i've hacked it to the point of no return. same with ... mysql. or... shorewall, bind9, etc etc
[04:58] <DarkSpirit> Hey
[04:58] <sloopy> where is the /etc/rc.d dir hidden in 9.10?
[04:58] <DarkSpirit> Which are the big Linux Oses?
[04:58] <DarkSpirit> OSes?
[04:58] <fivetwentysix> brjann: Well either it doesn't recognize my keyboard early enough for me to go into the bios menu or it just doesn't have one; I've tried rebooting hundreds of times.
[04:59]  * pangolin_rollin waves
[04:59] <fivetwentysix> brjann: razer arctosa keyboard
[04:59] <brjann> DarkSpirit: http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major
[04:59] <DarkSpirit> thanks
[04:59] <dsnyders> sloopy, /etc/rc*
[05:00] <brjann> fivetwentysix: not familiar with it. i'd say you'd probably be better off finding a cheap keyboard to let you into the boot menu than trying to jack with your boot record so you can install linux :) however, you could also try wubi and install from windows
[05:00] <sloopy> dsnyders, yes the 0-6 dir's are there but no rc.d
[05:00] <ryanrhee90> GeekSquid: hrm... for example, i'm guessing that "apt-get remove apache2" won't delete httpd.conf. if i do apt-get install apache2 after removing, i'm guessing that the configuration files will still be there. true?
[05:00] <brjann> !wubi | fivetwentysix
[05:00] <pangolin_rollin> anyone have an extensive knowledge of either GPS or fingerprint readers? i need help with both
[05:00] <dsnyders> sloopy, there is no rc.d
[05:00] <pangolin_rollin> !
[05:01] <sloopy> dsnyders, so where to put stuff that usually goes in it?
[05:01] <fivetwentysix> brjann: I don't want to install something where it doesn't give me full hardware support
[05:01] <fivetwentysix> brjann: i rather just install it on a VM
[05:01] <fivetwentysix> brjann: if that's the case
[05:01] <Jon-> ubottu: You guys still recommend Wubi? I remember like 3-4 months ago I was a Ubuntu green dude, installed with Wubi, worked great, week later, GRUB update, boot loader was SCREWED. What an oversight =/
[05:02] <dsnyders> sloopy, It's been a while.  What normally goes in rc.d
[05:02] <fivetwentysix> lol @ ubottu
[05:02] <Jon-> Printer issue, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/386073/  Please, someone at least tell me it's only a compatibility issue so I can frown and move on haha
[05:02] <fivetwentysix> !lol | fivetwentysix
[05:02] <Jon-> I like talking to bots
[05:02] <sloopy> dsnyders, yeah its been years since i have had to update my router... i dont play with the low level stuff anymore :'(
[05:02] <GeekSquid> ryanrhee90: I don't believe in no return .. but anyway .. if you wanted to truly get rid of the lamp stack (for instance) sudo tasksel remove --purge lamp-server would really get rid of everything, then i'd be just a matter of reinstalling the lamp stack, ... your example is ok, however it doesn't get rid of the configs unless you do sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 ... follow?
[05:02] <duncanidaho1> Why does DESKTOP DRAPES not startup when my computer restarts?  It is listed in my startup applications.  It is also set to do so in its preferences.
[05:03] <ryanrhee90> GeekSquid: Purge! okay. i'll do that. thanks! :)
[05:03] <arand> Jon-: I have never used wubi nor do I think much of it, I would say if you have a choice, go with a dualboot instead.
[05:04] <Jon-> arand: After GRUB blew up on me I dual-booted. Seriously though, if Ubuntu is supposed to work for my Grandma and a simple recommended update blows up Wubi because of some mix up with GRUB... well, that just sucks.
[05:05] <seanbrystone> good luck finding the perfect OS
[05:05] <GeekSquid> Jon-: type /msg ubottu !gender ... you might get a kick out of that ... also http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi is ubottu's database for your enjoyment
[05:05] <arand> Jon-: Bugs always suck, but there is little avoiding the neither, such is life.
[05:05] <dsnyders> sloopy, I think the stuff goes in the various rc*.d folders, and possibly the /etc/event.d folder.
[05:05] <fivetwentysix> brjann: Can I install wubi and make it use a whole harddrive to itself to increase performance?
[05:05] <linucks> Hi there, I am confused over this new grub.cnf, I need to add a kernel option however there seems to be no menu.lst file and the grub.cnf is only script. Can anyone help?
[05:06] <Jon-> arand: True, but when was the last time a Microsoft patches caused BSODs? Last patch date, yes, but that was from a rootkit not letting it modify a file, haha ^_^
[05:06] <sloopy> dsnyders, only symlinks go into rc*.d
[05:06] <arand> linucks: editing is done in /etc/default/grub
[05:06] <brjann> fivetwentysix: apparently yes, via LVPM. I've never used wubi or LVPM, though :) http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[05:06] <dsnyders> sloopy, so where do the symlinks point?
[05:06] <Jon-> arand: My point is Ubuntu really needs more stability before it's ready for the average user IMO, I'm not bashing, just saying, it's a power-user OS
[05:07] <Jon-> Printer issue, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/386073/  Please, someone at least tell me it's only a compatibility issue so I can frown and move on haha
[05:07] <arand> linucks: use "sudo update-grub" to propagate the to the actual grub.cfg
[05:07] <sloopy> dsnyders, to files in /etc/init.d
[05:07] <linucks> arand: ok, where in /etc/default/grub do I add a kernel option? I am new to grub2
[05:07] <fivetwentysix> Does wubi work on Win 7 64bit ?
[05:07] <sloopy> dsnyders, which are where the actual startup control scripts reside
[05:08] <Jon-> fivetwentysix: It worked with RC1 for me, so I assume it will for you as well. I'd really recommend dual-boot though.
[05:08] <jrtayloriv> Why would I use Ubuntu firefox addons rather than just installing them directly through firefox?
[05:08] <dsnyders> sloopy, so I guess that's where your /etc/rc.d files are too.
[05:08] <linucks> arand: would it happen to be GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""?
[05:08] <Jon-> jrtayloriv: I think they are the same thing.
[05:08] <axisys> how do I setup a user with autologin ? put ubuntu on my gf's laptop .. she prefers not to enter passwd during login.. it is secure.. no open port except ssh w/ limit and there is no inbound route to my home
[05:09] <arand> linucks: kernel option? like "acpi=off" or "vga=868"? In that case it is at the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line (where there is already the quiet and splash options)
[05:09] <jrtayloriv> Jon- Why does Ubuntu team maintain these packages then? Surely they wouldn't create a package for no reason ....
[05:09] <Jon-> axisys: System -> Administration -> Login screen [in there]
[05:09] <fivetwentysix> Jon-: I'm having trouble booting from cd
[05:09] <linucks> arand: i8042.nomux=1
[05:09] <sloopy> dsnyders, nope, rc.d was for scripts for simple tasks that were started/stopped/etc by the scripts in /etc/init.d
[05:09] <Jon-> fivetwentysix: You the BIOS guy? Tap F2 when computer powers on set CD to boot before hard-drive in boot order
[05:10] <Jon-> Printer issue, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/386073/  Please, someone at least tell me it's only a compatibility issue so I can frown and move on haha
[05:10] <arand> linucks: that would go in there yes (what I mentioned)
[05:10] <fivetwentysix> Jon-: That's the whole problem
[05:10] <linucks> arand: ok thanks :)
[05:10] <Jon-> jrtayloriv: I've used Ubuntu for 1 month. Don't ask me. :P
[05:10] <Ghost1227> much as i hate to admit it, i need help... i haven't configured X in ages but i now find myself needing to use an ubuntu box that is forcing 800x600 resolution on an i915
[05:11] <axisys> Jon-: thanks
[05:11] <hamza>   no system devices (partitions, usb, cd/dvd drive) are showing in my nautilus, but they show in disk utility.  now im just wondering if it's hopeless and i have to reinstall...
[05:11] <arand> fivetwentysix: Depending on system everything from Del, F1-F2, F10-F12 is possible ways to get into bios
[05:11] <Jon-> fivetwentysix: BIOS setup is usually F1, F2 or DEL. I usually tap all three in rapid succession until it pops up.
[05:11] <fivetwentysix> Jon-: ill try when i gethome
[05:12] <sloopy> Jon-, looks like you are probly sharing it as a raw device and ubuntu is sending PS pages to it...
[05:12] <seanbrystone> isnt F10 the bios on  the newer HP's?
[05:12] <sloopy> Jon-, on the win2k machine look at the raw file in the spool and see if it has a PS header or binary data...
[05:13] <rww> I tend to just bash function keys randomly until the setup screen appears.
[05:13] <ja660k> is there a win95 emulator like dosbox?
[05:13] <ardchoille> rww: hehe
[05:13] <Wubuntu> i'm using Karmic Koala 9.10, and have a Microdia TwinkleCam USB camera that i can't seem to get to operate. Can anyone assist me with this problem?
[05:13] <Jon-> sloopy: I can access the drive remotely from here, what path is the spool in generally?
[05:13] <arand> jrtayloriv: Using the ubuntu firefox addons makes them use the package management system, and hence will be easier to manage (depending on your preference)
[05:13] <arand> !wine | ja660k
[05:13] <dsnyders> sloopy, on my fedora box, rc.d contains init.d and the various rc*.d folders.  On my ubuntu those are all in /etc directly.
[05:13] <sloopy> Jon-, i dont know for win2k, on win xp it is... uh give me a sec
[05:14] <dsnyders> sloopy, what exactly are you after?
[05:14] <axisys> how do I disable `laptop mode' .. it is keep going to suspend mode if the lid is down
[05:14] <axisys> got it! power management
[05:14] <Jon-> axisys: You can access power options from System -> Preferences -> Power Management. Change the settings and click the make default [or whatever it is] button
[05:14] <axisys> Jon-: thanks
[05:15] <Jon-> haha
[05:15] <sloopy> dsnyders, i upgraded my router machine from 8.04 to 9.10, i tried firestarter for the FW but it is sucking up 100% cpu on one of the cores...
[05:15] <jrtayloriv> arand, Thanks
[05:15] <sloopy> dsnyders, so i am going back to just using a iptables script i made...
[05:15] <sensae> I'm having problems with mdadm and RAID - it seems like it won't write a superblock to my raid devices
[05:16] <GeekSquid> sloopy: you are so much better off using iptables or ufw, firestarter is a memory/cpu hog
[05:16] <sloopy> dsnyders, and i am used to sysv init, as it was in the past (i used to use FC back in the day...)
[05:16] <dsnyders> sloopy, so you want to know where to put the iptables script?
[05:16] <sloopy> GeekSquid, yeah i said that ;')
[05:16] <alcala> Hello!! =)
[05:16] <sloopy> dsnyders, yeah i just made a rc.d dir in /etc
[05:16] <brjann> !hi | alcala
[05:17] <rothsdad> hi
[05:17] <Jon-> sloopy I found C:\WINNT\system32\spool\PRINTERS  it contains .SHD and .SPL files. What would you like me to check?
[05:17] <MrPockets> what the HECK would make the menu font in certain applications different?
[05:17] <GeekSquid> MrPockets: like what application?
[05:18] <alcala> does anybody has any experience on configuring WEBCAM on any msn client??
[05:18] <MrPockets> the file menus in OpenOffice Writer, and all the font in VirtualBox
[05:18] <MrPockets> but like, Evolituon, FF, xChat, all gine
[05:18] <MrPockets> fine*
[05:18] <b2p1mp> im such a noob, my win7 desktop had the printer attached windows shared(LPT1), on my laptop i goto printers, add under Network choose Windows Samba then input the info to locate the printer.... i cant seem to locate it though.
[05:18] <sloopy> Jon-, i dont rem which, use a good text editor and open one and see if there is a PS header in it...
[05:18] <MrPockets> all system fonts are fine..
[05:18] <b2p1mp> im on 910 ubuntu
[05:19] <Jon-> sloopy vim to the rescue  one sec
[05:19] <sloopy> Jon-, best thing since sliced bread ;')
[05:19] <b2p1mp> cant seem to reach the printer attached to lpt1 on my windows machine
[05:19] <Guest58560> hello all can i ask a question
[05:19] <sloopy> Guest58560, you just did...
[05:19] <dsnyders> sloopy, judging from the readme in /etc/init.d, you should put it in /etc/init.d and then run update-rc.d
[05:19] <Guest58560> fair enough...
[05:19] <brjann> !ask | Guest58560
[05:20] <Jon-> spool Hmm, just seems like binaries to me, gedit can't find proper encoding and VIM displays garbage or nothing
[05:20] <alcala> can anybody help me to decide on what webcam I can buy that is compatible with a messenger in ubuntu?
[05:20] <dsnyders> Has anybody gotten kpovmodeler working in 9.04?
[05:20] <Guest58560> ok..so just installed ubuntu had free space of 10gb on drive formated it as Fat to store music..rebooted drive not seen data ?gone?
[05:21] <dsnyders> Guest58560, Is the drive mounted?
[05:21] <brjann> alcala: here's a list of webcams that the Free Software Foundation likes: http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/cameras
[05:21] <Jon-> sloopy Hmm, just seems like binaries to me, gedit can't find proper encoding and VIM displays garbage or nothing  [I called you "spool". Ironic fail.]
[05:21] <Guest58560> and partitions are not mounted automatically which is odd to me
[05:21] <GeekSquid> alcala: look here http://www.murrayc.com/blog/permalink/2008/03/28/webcams-that-just-work-with-ubuntu/
[05:21] <sloopy> dsnyders, no, that isnt the right place for the script... init.d is where the script with the info for update-rc needs is stored...
[05:21] <alcala> brjann thanks
[05:22] <DanaG> hmm, is it a known issue that the PowerPC LiveCD is 705 megabytes, and thus too big to fit on a CD?
[05:22] <brjann> alcala: take a look at the link GeekSquid said too :)
[05:22] <alcala> geeksquid thanks
[05:22] <AgentGreen> hi everyone
[05:22] <sloopy> Jon-, yeah then win2k is probly sharing it as a raw specific printer as opposed to a generic PS printer...
[05:22] <cyberbluntz> OK, so I'm trying to play this dvd I picked up from the redbox, when I put it it it comes up with an autolauncher, and asks me what to do . I select the movie player, and when It attempts to launch it gives and error "no URI handler implemented for "dvd"."
[05:23] <AgentGreen> anyone not to busy or frustrated to help A Ubuntu desktop installation problem ?
[05:23] <GeekSquid> DanaG: please ask that question in #ubuntu-powerpc
[05:23] <Jon-> sloopy: AKA, Windows-share only? [as the driver is transmitted to the box when it tries to access it]?
[05:24] <Jon-> sloopy: It works with zero-config for XP and 7
[05:24] <sloopy> Jon-, yeah that sounds about right... i am not really sure, as i have been linux (and unix) prodominate for ~15 years...
[05:24] <sloopy> Jon-, and i have seen this issue with samba... i know how to fix it in samba but not windows
[05:25] <Jon-> sloopy: I'm 20... you make me feel young ^_^. Out of curiosity what's the samba fix?
[05:25] <jmfedlp> #ubuntu-es
[05:25] <AgentGreen> I get a blank screen after ubuntu bootloader? lets me select
[05:25] <sensae> I'm trying to start my raid array with mdadm and I get device or resource busy
[05:25] <sloopy> Jon-, samba is the app that runs on linux (and other os's) for sharing things in the MS way...
[05:25] <sensae> lsof shows nothing using either drives / partitions
[05:26] <Jon-> sloopy: Oh. I thought it was the name for the actual protocol used by Windows, nevermind. I see the difference now
[05:26] <sloopy> Jon-, the protocol is called 'smb'
[05:26] <pangolin_rollin> hello? testing connection please respond back?
[05:26] <AgentGreen> hello
[05:27] <GeekSquid> pangolin_rollin: working
[05:27] <pangolin_rollin> Geeksquid: thank you
[05:27] <Jon-> sloopy: Yep. I should have known that. I'm very solid on Windows boxes, only have about a month of ubuntu under my belt now. Thanks for the help, I guess I am screwed =/
[05:27] <rothsdad> 、
[05:28] <sloopy> Jon-, problem is fixable, i just dont know how...
[05:28] <sloopy> Jon-, besides isnt win2k EOL?
[05:29] <AgentGreen> awww bummer all the documentation and searching with no luck
[05:29] <GeekSquid> AgentGreen: Laptop?
[05:29] <hamza> noone knows why i cant mount any of my drives?
[05:30] <AgentGreen> no netbook installled awsome it loaded so well on my eeepc I decided to install on my desktop also not the remix ofcourse but the new 9.10
[05:30] <Jon-> sloopy: Win2k is in "extended" support, no new features are planned but security patches and vulnerabilities are still addressed.. those are dropped in like 2012?
[05:30] <AgentGreen> and i just get a blank screeen and my refresh rate or resolution in my card
[05:31] <AgentGreen> goes nuts
[05:31] <sloopy> Jon-, ahhh, i just know someone who was telling me 2003 server is going to be EOL this year, so i figured 2k was well past EOL
[05:31] <Jon-> sloopy It's quite an old PC, it really wouldn't run XP without an upgrade. It has the printer attached just out of convinence, no room by the XP box [my main box, this is a laptop]
[05:31] <alcala> WEBCAM configuring is hard? I mean u should pick a compatible one, configure it, and see if u have luck making it work!
[05:31] <theadmin> What does TTY stand for, actually?
[05:32] <sloopy> theadmin, TeleTYpe
[05:32] <jazusa03> compiz has broken, when i load it, all the windows go blank i tried to run it in the console but couldnt read an error message
[05:32] <theadmin> sloopy: :/
[05:32] <mengu> hi. when i try to play some mp3s i get this error: "GstMPEGAudioParse: No valid frames found before end of stream" why is that? they were working great on win?
[05:32] <chd> how do I mount iso's with ubuntu
[05:32] <issaec> hola
[05:33] <axisys> chd: sudo mount -o loop file.iso /mnt
[05:33] <sloopy> ubottu, iso | chd
[05:33] <AgentGreen> no idea's anyone ?
[05:34] <issaec> which is the room of Ubuntu in spanish¿?
[05:34] <issaec> xD
[05:34] <Jon-> sloopy Oh crappp Windows 2000 extended support ends 13/07/2010. I guess I am hounding my parents to upgrade then, that's sort of critical and I refuse to have an easily compromised box on the network
[05:34] <brjann> !es | issaec
[05:34] <GeekSquid> AgentGreen: there are a number of considerations... it is probably your video card ... at boot loader screen . press ESC after post ... go to recovery mode and run the xfix then reboot and see if that helped
[05:34] <sloopy> Jon-, replace 2k with ubuntu
[05:34] <AgentGreen> thank you very much geek squid
[05:34] <Johny> HELLPPP!!!!
[05:35] <AgentGreen> this is from cd boot ?
[05:35] <Jon-> sloopy: It's my moms computer
[05:35] <sloopy> Jon-, mom can learn ubuntu...
[05:35] <Johny> i uninstalled ubuntu but i cant seem to uninstall GRUB Loader
[05:35] <GeekSquid> AgentGreen: fresh start ... when you get to Loading Grub .. Press esc ... go to the recovery cosole and run the xfix
[05:35] <Johny> i cant boot to my XP machine :(
[05:35] <Jon-> sloopy: I've had ubuntu for a month and the only reason I didn't say screw it and go back to windows is because I had the perseverance and was good with PCs. I've had issues... I'll consider it.
[05:36] <AgentGreen> all i have is cd
[05:36] <AgentGreen> k it switch into text mod
[05:36] <AgentGreen> im at boot :
[05:36] <sensae> Can anyone explain this to me? My mdadm raid automatically builds on boot, on /dev/md_d0, and I have it in fstab. When my system boots it hangs complaining /home won't mount (the raid), but all I have to do is drop to recovery console, type 'mount -a' and hit ctrl D to continue booting, and it works
[05:36] <sloopy> Jon-, just remember you didnt learn windows in a month, so dont expect to learn ubuntu in a month ;')
[05:36] <GeekSquid> AgentGreen: press esc to get to the grub screen ... go to recovery .. are we getting there
[05:36] <dsnyders> sloopy, scripts go into /etc/init.d according to this: http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=368717
[05:36] <AgentGreen> trying i think I did it too early
[05:37] <Johny> any of you guys here know how to remove grub loader?
[05:37] <AgentGreen> just went to a boot: promp
[05:37] <ChogyDan> sensae: it might be an ordering thing.  It is trying to boot before the raid comes online
[05:37] <Johny> GRUB
[05:37] <ChogyDan> sensae: don't know anything about fixing that though...
[05:37] <rww> Johny: what are you trying to replace it with? Windows' boot loader?
[05:37] <sloopy> dsnyders, yes, startup scripts belong in init.d but this isnt the startup script...
[05:37] <Johny> yeah i want to restore it to the original
[05:37] <AgentGreen> if I press esc from boot loader of cd
[05:37] <sensae> ChogyDan: Well that's lame :/
[05:37] <AgentGreen> I go to a BOOT: prompt
[05:37] <NimbleRabit> I'm trying to do a cp command, and I know for 100% sure the file exists, but it's telling me cannot stat FILE: No such file or directory.   "Learning Windows" is very false, it's more like "learning how to not install junky programs and avoid malware" Windows is quite stable, hard to screwup, low crash rate, no compatibility issues, updates don't break things. Ubuntu, so far for me, not quite there yet. I don't know if I want to subject my mom to that
[05:38] <Johny> i have windows XP
[05:38] <AgentGreen> got it posting all info
[05:38] <AgentGreen> from loading
[05:38] <rww> Johny: http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/292614-how-to-get-back-your-windows-xp-bootloader/
[05:38] <AgentGreen> so i guess it's gona load me into a prompt ?
[05:38] <GeekSquid> AgentGreen: not the CD ... try without CD ... boot normally .. when you get past the bios screen press ESC
[05:38] <Johny> ahhhh i already did that
[05:39] <AgentGreen> not installed there's only ubuntu 8.10 fastrack 4 and windows xp
[05:39] <Johny> still doing GRUB Loading but it actually wont even go to the menu
[05:39] <AgentGreen> backtrack4 I mean
[05:39] <sloopy> Jon-, yeah my wife was a windows person, made her use linux, until she got her new laptop, tried vista, didnt care much for it, went to 7, and is serioulsy considering going back to linux...
[05:39] <genii> Johny: For grub2 hold the shift key down and not the esc key
[05:40] <Johny> it would just stay GRUB loading
[05:40] <GeekSquid> AgentGreen: what do you mean not installed ... what did it do?
[05:40] <Jon-> sloopy: Hmm, really? Personally I love 7, but I take computer science so some experiance in UNIX/Linux would be nice. That's why I forced myself to switch for a bit.
[05:40] <GeekSquid> genii: that's new .. good to know
[05:40] <Jon-> sloopy: I didn't care for Vista at all, it was rushed and just wasn't very good
[05:40] <AgentGreen> I place cd in drive
[05:41] <AgentGreen> I get too the boot loader menu
[05:41] <AgentGreen> I got to install ubuntu
[05:41] <AgentGreen> shows me circle logo
[05:41] <Johny> nope holding down shift doesnt help
[05:41] <AgentGreen> shows me text
[05:41] <AgentGreen> then My screen goes out of rang
[05:41] <sloopy> Jon-, yeah i have opinions on both but they would be OT here and discussing here is against the TOS for the channel...
[05:42] <AgentGreen> it's an intel celery 2.0ghz with a nvidia gfx 7600 gt
[05:42] <Jon-> sloopy: Whoops. I won't then, thanks =)
[05:42] <sloopy> Jon-, np, suprised something hasnt been ssaid already...
[05:43] <mawst> Does anyone know which "fmt" on youtube = 1080p?
[05:43] <dsnyders> sloopy,  This link uses /opt/scripts for an iptables script: http://townx.org/simple_firewall_for_ubuntu_using_iptables
[05:43] <rww> ubottu: ot | mawst
[05:44] <mawst> :D
[05:44] <Johny> GRUB Loader wont go away plz help
[05:44] <dsnyders> sloopy, [shrug] but if you've got it working, you've got it working.
[05:44] <hipitihop> what is the correct way to check what timzone I have set from the command line ?
[05:44] <lazarus_lupine> anyone know how to completely remove plymouth? Still getting a mountall error message on startup. Using an ssd so i don't need a splash screen.
[05:44] <alcala> is there any software like MAIL CHIMP for ubuntu??
[05:44] <arand> Johny: You have an xp CD?
[05:45] <Johny> yeah but i did all that fixboot and fixmdr thing
[05:45] <brjann> hipitihop: date
[05:45] <Johny> and GRUB is still there
[05:45] <brjann> hipitihop: that will show the current time in what the system thinks is your local timezone
[05:45] <sloopy> dsnyders, yeah that would be an LSB approved method to doing it...
[05:45] <hipitihop> brjann, says EST whereas I am GMT+10:00
[05:46] <arand> Johny: That shouldn't be the case... You only have one harddisk?
[05:46] <Johny> well when i instlaled ubuntu i had 2
[05:46] <Johny> 1 for xp and 1 for ubuntu
[05:46] <hipitihop> brjann, although date and time correct, hence I suspect I never set my timzone properly and just set date/time
[05:47] <Johny> and i just removed the ubuntu hardrive cuz i thought it might help remove the GRUB loading thing
[05:47] <Johny> but it didnt
[05:47] <brjann> hipitihop: this should help :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[05:47] <Johny> i already uninstalled ubuntu but now i cant boot to xp cuz GRUB would get stuck loading
[05:47] <Johny> cant even get to the GRUB menu
[05:49] <sloopy> dsnyders, but either way thanks for the help...
[05:49] <dsnyders> sloopy, glad to almost help :-)
[05:50] <Johny> WOAH!!!! its fixed
[05:50] <sloopy> dsnyders, been using linux for a long time?
[05:50] <rshakin> hey ppl;
[05:50] <AgentGreen> hi
[05:50] <bullgard> pavucontrol) shows  in tabs »Output Devices« and »Input Devices« in in the first line »Internal_Audio_Analog_Stereo«. What does that mean?
[05:50] <dsnyders> sloopy, at least five years, probably more.
[05:50] <hipitihop> brjann, strnage I followed dpkg-reconfigure tzdata and it showed the correct settings and shows current local timezone correctly but in local time it shows EST
[05:51] <Wubuntu> are there specific XChat rooms for webcam issues?
[05:51] <sloopy> dsnyders, ahh ok...
[05:51] <rzx237> Johny: how?
[05:51] <brjann> hipitihop: that's weird. if you click on the clock in your panel, does it show your location correctly?
[05:51] <GeekSquid> AgentGreen: I would reccommend downloading either ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10 and install that over the install you have .. I believe you will have better luck
[05:51] <dsnyders> sloopy, ubuntu sets a lot of stuff on its ear, though.
[05:51] <AgentGreen> i have 9.10 on a cd
[05:52] <AgentGreen> but wont install
[05:52] <Johny> i dont know it just booted agian. i think it was the hardrive that i removed
[05:52] <AgentGreen> fails before install screen boot loader works fine
[05:52] <GeekSquid> AgentGreen: have you checkd the disk for integrity?
[05:52] <AgentGreen> will do but i suspect it'll be fine
[05:53] <Blue1> rzx237: yes but you have to set that
[05:53] <AgentGreen> backtrack 4 installed and ran live from cd wich is on ubuntu 8.10 i believe
[05:53] <Jon-> Printer issue : http://paste.ubuntu.com/386105/  [now with updated info if you took a look before]
[05:53] <AgentGreen> so i don't see why this installation of ubuntu 9.10 would be problematic
[05:53] <dsnyders> So I gather nobody has gotten kpovmodeler to work?
[05:53] <sloopy> dsnyders, just different methods of doing the same thing, try running a *BSD and compare, and you will see how ubuntu and fedora have similarities in different spots with them...
[05:54] <hipitihop> brjann, I'm checking the machine remotely via ssh so not simple to bring that up
[05:54] <soudesuka> I installed ubuntu using wubi and then tried to move the install using LVPM, but for some reason, ubuntu does not show up in the grub menu.  I get an UnknownOS which points to my Windows Bootloader and then the actual Windows Bootloader.  The ubuntu install is still associated with the windows bootloader.  any suggestions?
[05:54] <Skeet> hello guys
[05:54] <brjann> hipitihop: ah, i see. sorry, i actually have to do something else for a little bit :( good luck, though!
[05:54] <BankHead> Jru.
[05:54] <BankHead> Hey.*
[05:55] <dsnyders> sloopy, true.  It's getting to know the variations and what goes where, especially between distro upgrades, that keeps you on your toes
[05:55] <Jon-> souldesuka You could always boot into a Win recovery CD and have it remake the bootloader, then see if you can get GRUB to load Ubuntu?
[05:55] <Blue1> soudesuka: becuase wubi runs as a task under windows
[05:55] <soudesuka> Blue1: LVPM is supposed to move Ubuntu to its own seperate partition
[05:55] <claws> this is my 6'th day on linux and.. boy... I LOVE THIS !
[05:56] <AgentGreen> claws well done
[05:56] <Blue1> soudesuka: i've not had good luck with that - - but YMMV (your mileage may vary)
[05:56] <AgentGreen> Im loving the ubuntu remix
[05:56] <sloopy> claws, congrats
[05:56] <dsnyders> sloopy, for example, they've changed the xwindows reset from CTRL-ALT-Backspace to ALT-Printscreen-K
[05:56] <soudesuka> Jon: the reason I did this was because my laptops disc drive is not working... i cant install any thing from a disc
[05:56] <AgentGreen> just not so happy with installer on ubuntu 9.10 desktop
[05:57] <Skeet> claws, gj!
[05:57] <Jon-> soudesuka: The only way I know how to boot from USB .iso is with GRUB and it's a bit tricky.
[05:57] <Jon-> soudesuka: But probably easier than trying to port a Wubi install
[05:57] <AgentGreen> unetboot
[05:57] <AgentGreen> works great for usb.iso boot
[05:57] <soudesuka> Jon-: not sure I can boot from USB.  I'm probably just gonna stick with this the way it is unfortunately...
[05:57] <AgentGreen> it comes in a great linux and windows version
[05:57] <mkquist> hey all, i dont remember, how to get fsck to run on the filesystem on reboot... any help?
[05:57] <AgentGreen> just google unet boot
[05:58] <ardchoille> !info unetbootin
[05:58] <dsnyders> Jon-, there are a bunch of examples of usb iso booting on pendrivelinux.org, even a multi-boot setup.
[05:58] <BankHead> Is it easier to install ubuntu on a secondary drive?
[05:58] <AgentGreen> GeekSquid as quessed checking intregrity Check Finished: no errors found
[05:58] <AgentGreen> press any key to reboot
[05:58] <sloopy> dsnyders, interesting combo, but i havnt played with anything that deep since i was using YDL...
[05:58] <julian__> alguien que speak spanish
[05:58] <AgentGreen> guessed
[05:58] <AgentGreen> not quessed
[05:58] <AgentGreen> lol
[05:58] <ardchoille> !es | julian__
[05:58] <Blue1> !es | julian__
[05:58] <claws> i feel i have wasted all those years on ...
[05:59] <julian__> tank you
[05:59] <GeekSquid> AgentGreen: backtrack is a dirivitave version that doesn't use the nvidia drivers, I had had problems with 8.10 with nvidia .. I know 8.04 works with nvidia, as does 9.04 .. 8.10 is almost to end of life, where as 8.04 still has a year of support, I digress, but really I'd keep trying ... I have one other option ... in your out of sync press CTRL-ALT-F1 to see if you get into a terminal ... if so login and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:59] <Blue1> de nada
[05:59] <hipitihop> brjann, np, thanks for assist
[05:59] <Jon-> soudesuka: At least take a look at http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=23052  and see if you are successful. If your laptop can boot from USB, this is your best option
[05:59] <sloopy> claws, cant know what good is unless you know what bad is... think of those years as a learning exp...
[05:59]  * Blue1 wishes he knew more spanish
[05:59] <dsnyders> sloopy, when you have handicap assist on and hold alt  it toggles on.  If you then press ctrl-backspace to delete a word, you restart X with no opportunity to save your work.
[06:00] <knoppies> claws: Linux is free, but only to those who consider their time worthless.
[06:00] <AgentGreen> whn it's out of sink I can't ctrl alt f1 to get a terminal
[06:00] <AgentGreen> but il try again to make sure
[06:00] <ssmy> what is the easiest way to make one of my keys do what another would? at some point ubuntu decided that my right alt key isn't an alt key, and I want it to be.
[06:00] <dsnyders> sloopy, apparently it was happening quite a bit.
[06:00] <Jon-> Printer issue : http://paste.ubuntu.com/386105/  [now with updated info if you took a look before]
[06:00] <knoppies> claws, welcome though, you will learn that computers as you knew it, are much more powerful than you were aware.
[06:00] <claws> sloppy: i see that now  :)
[06:00] <sloopy> dsnyders, that that soounds like a party in a keystroke :')
[06:00] <rikoy> halllooww
[06:01] <Blue1> Jon-: I ran into a similar problem with my hp printer - turned out the printer psc 1310 is NOT a network printer
[06:01] <dsnyders> sloopy, I think there are other ALT-Printscreen keystrokes beyond Alt-Printscreen-K to kill x.
[06:02] <claws> knoppies: i am already beginning to notice  :)
[06:02] <mkquist> hey all, i dont remember, how to get fsck to run on the filesystem on reboot... any help?
[06:02] <AgentGreen> no luck Geek Squid
[06:02] <AgentGreen> :(
[06:02] <Jon-> Blue1: I don't imagine it is... I have it hooked up to a Windows PC via USB, the printer shared using Windows 2000 smb. Windows XP and Windows 7 connect and use it fine once pointed in the right direction and given authentication, Ubuntu fails. Any ideas?
[06:02] <Skeet> claws, what took you so long? :)
[06:02]  * AgentGreen cries
[06:03] <sloopy> dsnyders, yeah back in the mid 90's i used to have a shell running off the serial port on my 68k mac incase the console got too screwed, i could use a terminal to fix it... those were the days /nostalgia
[06:03] <Jon-> Blue1: I can use samba to access the drive shares and to see the printer, only when I go to print the printer "rejects" it [spins up like it is preparing to print, and then just stops]
[06:04] <claws> skeet: i hate my self for that  :P
[06:04] <Blue1> Jon-: private message ok?
[06:04] <Skeet> claws, i feel ya pain!
[06:05] <claws> skeet: i got a lot of reading left though  :)
[06:05] <dsnyders> sloopy, I just found a list.  The keystroke is called a Magic Sysrq.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[06:06] <Skeet> same here claws!!
[06:07] <theadmin> Help, i added "alias apache='sudo /home/r00t/httpd/bin/apachectl'", to .bashrc, yet whenever i try "apachestart" it seems to skip the sudo part
[06:07] <theadmin> "apache start", i mean
[06:07] <hamza>   no system devices (partitions, usb, cd/dvd drive) are showing in my nautilus, but they show in disk utility.  now im just wondering if it's hopeless and i have to reinstall...
[06:07] <GeekSquid> ssmy: your right alt is technically AltGr in ubuntu ... you will need to learn to use xmodmap to remap those keys ... see here http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man1/xmodmap.1.html
[06:08] <dsnyders> Well, goodnight all!
[06:08] <Trizicus> In chrome and firefox on every SSL/HTTPS site I go to I always get an untrusted connection warning and I need to manually add the certificate. Does anyone have info about this?
[06:08] <sloopy> dsnyders, but that hasnt been enabled on standard kernels for years IIRC
[06:08] <AgentGreen> lol my screen saver was kicking in on remix
[06:08] <AgentGreen> and I thought I was blacking out or going blind lol
[06:08] <GeekSquid> Trizicus: is your time/date/year set correctly? just a thought
[06:09] <Trizicus> GeekSquid: yes
[06:09] <alcala> I am having a hard time CONFIGURING evolution with GMAIL!! can anybody help me
[06:09] <dj_segfault1> I'm going crazy getting awstats to work.  It gathers stats into /var/lib/awstats but the web page won't list them.  I would like to give up on it and use something else.  What do you use for web stats?
[06:10] <Trizicus> GeekSquid: How do I find out if I have a proxy setup with networkmanager?
[06:10] <Jedimestari> acala download thunderbird, ti is better
[06:10] <ssmy> GeekSquid: well, it's showing as ISO_Level3_Shift in xev. I was wondering if there was anything newer than xmodmap. guess not.
[06:11] <GeekSquid> Trizicus: ask globally , not my bag
[06:11] <bullgard> pavucontrol) shows  in tabs »Output Devices« and »Input Devices« in in the first line »Internal_Audio_Analog_Stereo«. What does that mean?
[06:11] <AgentGreen> geek squid is there anyone i can call tommorow ?
[06:11] <dsnyders> sloopy, odd.  Perhaps it's only alt-sysrq-k being implemented.
[06:12] <bikcmp> Hello, I'm trying to run psybnc, but it says it can't create a listening port.
[06:12] <bikcmp> i'm not running as root.
[06:12] <bikcmp> what could be the problem?
[06:12] <GeekSquid> ssmy: you could use system>preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts and remap the keys you need to make whatever function you need
[06:13] <theadmin> Okay, help me out here. I have a script to start the Apache daemon in /etc/init.d, yet it ain't started now (just booted)
[06:13] <GeekSquid> AgentGreen: see my pm
[06:13] <ssmy> GeekSquid: that doesn't remap a key though, just assign it to a command.
[06:14] <AgentGreen> thanks man i see your really busy and I really apreciate it
[06:14] <AgentGreen> I was really happy today with Ubuntu 9.10 remix on my netbook
[06:14] <AgentGreen> now im sad with ubuntu 9.10 desktop
[06:15] <theadmin> Some output which might be valuable: http://pastebin.com/s9ckmvRT
[06:15] <ubuntu> hello everyone
[06:15] <ubuntu> can anyone here help me with grub
[06:15] <gestaltish> hello
[06:15] <ubuntu> i have it installed on one of my partitions
[06:16] <ubuntu> but it doesnt show all partitions
[06:16] <ubuntu> how can i add a some partitions to grub?
[06:17] <gestaltish> @ubuntu Have yu checked the forums?
[06:17] <ubuntu> i found some useful info, but how to solve this problem in particular\
[06:17] <sloopy> theadmin, why didnt apache package install its own script in /etc/init.d  ?
[06:18] <Jon-> Can a non-network printer that does work over smb work on ubuntu over samba, or am I wasting my time?
[06:18] <rastasean> looking for assistance to start vsftp but i get this error start-stop-daemon: Unable to open pidfile `/var/run/vsftpd/vsftpd.pid' for writing: Permission denied (Permission denied)
[06:18] <BankHead> Visit #GeneralDiscussion for offtopic chat
[06:18] <theadmin> sloopy: It wasn't installed system-wide when i installed it
[06:18] <ubuntu> in fact i re-installed grub, on that old paartition, but unfortunately its missing my most important paritions
[06:19] <sloopy> theadmin, you need more in the script in init.d, look in the other scripts for examples...
[06:19] <ubuntu> that is the options at start up are incomplete
[06:19] <mattgyver> anybody know how to prevent wine apps from starting up in the "wine system tray" and just appear in panel?
[06:19] <theadmin> sloopy: Well, uh, why wouldn't this work?
[06:19] <djo> salut
[06:19] <rastasean> <----looking for assistance to start vsftp
[06:19] <ubuntu> hello
[06:20] <mattgyver> rastasean, it almost sounds as if its running as root and your trying to restart it as a normal user
[06:20] <djo> french
 I do sudo, tho
[06:20] <nomad77> !fr |djo
[06:20] <Jon-> Can a non-network printer that does work over smb work on ubuntu over samba, or am I wasting my time?
[06:21] <sloopy> theadmin, i dont have time to explain... i need to go to bed... go into /etc/rc2.d and do a ls -l
 i type sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd start
[06:21] <rastasean> it mentions some running process that seems to be locked up
[06:21] <mattgyver> yeah, you could try a sudo killall vsftpd and then try running it again
[06:22] <RPG-Master> OK, need help sorting through a FRIGGIN' huge lost+found folder. Nautilus can't handle all the stupid empty folders and blank inode files
[06:22] <rastasean> matt, still denies me :(
[06:22] <BankHead> Visit #GeneralDiscussion for offtopic chat
[06:23] <rastasean> matt, pgrep doesn't show anything running
[06:23] <rastasean> as far as vsftpd
[06:24] <rastasean> i have even rebooted the machine
[06:25] <RPG-Master> So, any help with my predicament?
[06:25] <sloopy> RPG-Master, delete everything in there?
[06:26] <RPG-Master> sloopy, No, I have gigs of videos, images, and other random stuff strewn across those folders :(
[06:26] <Jon-> Printer issue : http://paste.ubuntu.com/386105/  I've been working at this for a long time guys, please someone give me some assistance =/
[06:27] <sloopy> RPG-Master, they shouldnt be in lost+found... but use the shell to sort/move it...
[06:28] <RPG-Master> sloopy, Well, they got moved there after I screwed up and did a fsck
[06:28] <RPG-Master> :(
[06:28] <becker_11> this might be a silly question but is a ssh signing key different to a gnupg signing key
[06:28] <rww> becker_11: yes
[06:28] <becker_11> rww: that explains my frustration with uploading my key to github
[06:28] <sloopy> RPG-Master, honestly if fsck put them there then they are likely to be corrupted...
[06:29] <rww> becker_11: which one do you want to make? I can link you to guides for either...
[06:29] <mattgyver> rastasean, im not too sure, did you install it from apt?
[06:29] <RPG-Master> sloopy, I thought so too, until I found a few folder completely in tact.
[06:29] <becker_11> rww: I need a ssh signing key for github the other key/s I've already got
[06:29] <BankHead> Visit -->> #GeneralDiscussion <<-- for fun talk, off topic and more :D
[06:29] <RPG-Master> But there are MANY randomly named folders in there :/
[06:29] <sloopy> RPG-Master, use the shell to start divide and conquer...
[06:29] <rastasean> matt, yes. i've never had a problem turning it on. so this is odd
[06:29] <rww> BankHead: Don't advertise channels in here, please.
[06:30] <BankHead> Sorry
[06:30] <becker_11> haha I thought he was a bot and someone got introuble for off topic lol
[06:30] <rww> becker_11: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys#Generating%20RSA%20Keys
[06:30] <becker_11> rww thanks
[06:30] <RPG-Master> sloopy, What commands should I use? I'd like to find files by type (flac, mkv, jpg, etc.)
[06:30] <mattgyver> rastasean, yea i never had that problem before with it.  I did some searching but im not finding anything like your problem, just config problems
[06:31] <rww> becker_11: no problem. Let me know if that link isn't clear :)
[06:31] <Blue1> !hcl
[06:31] <becker_11> rww: will do - brb
[06:31] <rastasean> matt, yeah i was thinking the same
[06:31] <rastasean> matt, do i have the start command correct
[06:31] <mattgyver> yeah
[06:32] <sloopy> RPG-Master, not easy to do... the command 'file' should tell you what type a specific file is...
[06:32] <Rebelstar> Hello, i have ubutnu 9.10.. I just tried to install compizconfig and after checking desktop effects option,, system hangs..even after restart in recovery mode system hangs with startup screen..what can i do..pls help
[06:32] <NoraZoe> i want to change the theme and log in screen but i cant seem to figure out how
[06:32] <NoraZoe> can anyone help
[06:33] <Jon-> Does printing of a Windows printer over samba work or not? I need to know if I am just wasting my time.. See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/386105/
[06:33] <rastasean> MATT
[06:33] <sloopy> OP bankhead is sending random invites to another channel...
[06:33] <rastasean> I think I have have solved it
[06:33] <BankHead> O_o?
[06:33] <mattgyver> rastasean, what was wrong?
[06:34] <rastasean> i deleted the vsftpd.pid file
[06:34] <Madpilot> sloopy, BankHead - ?
[06:34] <NoraZoe> can anyone help me please i cant figure out why i cant add any new themes
[06:34] <sloopy> yes
[06:34] <mattgyver> rastasean, ahh, so its working now
[06:34] <BankHead> Wtf?
[06:34] <BankHead> I stopped 5min ago
[06:34] <rastasean> matt, sudo rm - /var/run/vsftpd/vsftpd.pid
[06:34] <rastasean> yes, looks like it started
[06:34] <mattgyver> cool
[06:35] <sloopy> i got an invite at 1:31 and 1:33 (local time)
[06:35] <BankHead> Sorry dude
[06:35] <Madpilot> BankHead, why did you start in the first place? Unsolicited PMs - not cool. Unsolicited invites - also not cool. Do not use #ubuntu for that sort of thing, please.
[06:35] <BankHead> Alright. Sorry.
[06:35] <becker_11> rww: created the key thanks the guide was simple
[06:36] <rww> becker_11: awesome :)
[06:36] <patrick> what's the preferred method for scheduling a shutdown: "shutdown," "poweroff" or something else?
[06:36] <RPG-Master> Anymore advice?
[06:37] <sloopy> RPG-Master, yeah, get a large cup of coffee ;')
[06:37] <becker_11> patrick_____: I thought the syntax was sudo shutdown -(n) insert whatever time you need there
[06:37] <rastasean> does anyone know a program that can monitor all network traffic...not just on the machine program is installed on
[06:38] <patrick_____> becker_11, it is :) I'm just wondering if there's a "nicer" way of doing it (as in, I don't know if the shutdown command does everything that clicking "shutdown" on the gui does)
[06:38] <sloopy> rastasean, wireshark
[06:38] <brimmin> rastasean: ettercap if MITM is needed
[06:38] <dj_segfault1> rastasean: Wireshark can put the network card in promiscuous mode and do that.
[06:39] <rastasean> thanks guys!
[06:39] <rastasean> what is MITM?
[06:39] <becker_11> patrick_____: I was just thinking there might be a cron job way to do it say if you needed shutdown at the same time everyday but someelse would have to help with that so far I haven't used cron
[06:39] <RPG-Master> slowz,... :(
[06:39] <brimmin> man in the middle
[06:39] <RPG-Master> poop
[06:39] <becker_11> patrick_____: it probablly does more cause we all know the comamndline rules! :-)
[06:39] <dandaman> so i have windows 7 release candidate on my computer(with ubuntu installed from wubi). the release candidate is expiring toinght so if i install a new version of windows 7 will it mess up my linux install?
[06:40] <blakkheim> dandaman: yes
[06:40] <blakkheim> dandaman: next time don't use wubi
[06:40] <Rebelstar> i have ubutnu 9.10.. I just tried to install compizconfig and after checking desktop effects option,, system hangs..even after restart in recovery mode system hangs with startup screen..what can i do..pls help
[06:40] <dandaman> blakkheim: so im going to lose everything?
[06:40] <patrick_____> becker_11, hehe, thanks -- although there's another commandline program I know *not* to use called "halt" :P
[06:40] <arand> RPG-Master: DO you have any idea as to the cause? I had the whole root fs dumped into lost+found once and I suspect a couple of powerlosses on ext4 might be the cause...
[06:40] <blakkheim> dandaman: yeah
[06:40] <dandaman> blakkheim: DAMNIT
[06:40] <dandaman> blakkheim: maybe just install the new windows on another partition?
[06:40] <blakkheim> dandaman: if you would have done a real installation on a partition you wouldn't
[06:41] <becker_11> patrick_____: shame though - less typing
[06:41] <RPG-Master> arand, yep power loss :(
[06:41] <RPG-Master> arand, Though this is an external HDD
[06:41] <Jordan_U> dandaman, You can save / transfer your Ubuntu install / data
[06:41] <dandaman> Jordan_U: can you talk me through how to do that?
[06:41] <bullgard> pavucontrol shows in tabs »Output Devices« and »Input Devices« in in the first line »Internal_Audio_Analog_Stereo«. What does that mean?
[06:41] <dj_segfault1> dandaman: Can you start up Ubuntu and copy the important stuff ov er to external USB drive
[06:41] <Blue1> can a printer using hplip be networked (using samba) between linux and windows?
[06:42] <becker_11> so people is there a way to use cron to schedule shutdown of a linux box at the same time everynight ??
[06:42] <dandaman> dj_segfault1: yeah
[06:42] <arand> RPG-Master: Is this on karmic? (Mine happened on jaunty..)
[06:42] <Jordan_U> dandaman, I've never used wubi myself but I think so. Do you just want the data or the whole install?
[06:42] <dandaman> dj_segfault1: but i dont want to lose all of my installs and settings
[06:42] <RPG-Master> arand, Karmic
[06:42] <dandaman> like i have some programs installed that i dont want to lose :\
[06:42] <Jon-> Last call before I go to bed: hplip + samba w/ HP F4180 driver + printer connected USB to windows 2000 + HP F4180 printer = only spins up and does not print. What is the issue?
[06:42] <dj_segfault1> becker_11: I haven't tried shutting down from cron, but I can't think why it wouldn't work.
[06:43] <RPG-Master> arand: WAIT! I did this screw up through a Parted Magic CD
[06:43] <RPG-Master> But I fixing it through my Karmic laptop
[06:43] <RPG-Master> *I'm
[06:43] <patrick_____> I'm just going to do sudo shutdown -- that's probably good enough :)
[06:43] <muaddib> I was wondering if I could ask a mod_rewrite question
[06:43] <becker_11> dj_segfault1: yeah I've never used cron myself but thought it might provide the answer for patrick_____
[06:43] <muaddib> RewriteRule ^/something$ http://hostname:8080/something/$1 [P]
[06:43] <dj_segfault1> dandaman: There's a web page that describes how to generate a list of all installed programs and then another command to reinstall them on another machine from that list.  I don't remember where it is but maybe someone else does
[06:43] <muaddib> I am trying to set the above and it doesn't seem to be taking, but I am not sure what I am missing
[06:43] <Jordan_U> !clone | dandaman
[06:44] <patrick_____> muaddib, your name sounds familiar -- is that from Dune?
[06:44] <dj_segfault1> Jordan_U: Thanks
[06:44] <dandaman> awesome, thanks
[06:44] <muaddib> patrick______ yes
[06:44] <Jordan_U> dj_segfault1, You're welcome.
[06:44] <RPG-Master> arand, So how did you handle it?
[06:44]  * becker_11 on windows I hated doing updates from the MS update site, on linux I get sad when I run apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and there's nothing to install lol
[06:44] <dj_segfault1> patrick_____: If you put it in root's crontab then you don't need the sudo part.
[06:45] <patrick_____> dj_segfault1, cool, thanks for the tip!
[06:45] <mattgyver> dandaman, the other thing you can do is copy your /home directory to usb, most of your application settings are within that folder.
[06:45] <Rebelstar> can anybody pls help  me out?
[06:45] <dj_segfault1> patrick_____: What time do you want to shut down the box
[06:45] <lindzeyn> Quick question.  When I boot up, my desktop environment won't load, that is, the desktop icons do not appear and I cannot right click on the Desktop to get the usual gnome display options
[06:45] <becker_11> Rebelstar: don't ask to ask just ask your question
[06:45] <mattgyver> like for pidgin all your config settings etc is in /home/.purple
[06:46] <Rebelstar> becker_11:sorry i have been asking ? :)..anyway here is it  ----------- i have ubutnu 9.10.. I just tried to install compizconfig and after checking desktop effects option,, system hangs..even after restart in recovery mode system hangs with startup screen..what can i do..pls help
[06:46] <patrick_____> dj_segfault1, I don't want it to shutdown at a fixed time every day, just in about 45 minutes from now. So I'm going to do sudo shutdown +45. I thought there might be a "nicer" way to do it though, that's why I asked here :)
[06:46] <lindzeyn> Everything else is fine
[06:46] <arand> RPG-Master: Hmm, was so heavily corrupted and disorganised so not much to do really, I was able to run photorec, which extraced some files, but it was still a huge mess which I wasn't able to extract much from, luckily I had no really important data stored on there..
[06:46] <Jordan_U> dandaman, You can convert your Wubi install to a "real" install on its own partition ( I know that it's also possible to transfer a wubi install from one windows install to another but I can't give you a guide for that at the moment )
[06:47] <Itadakimasu> im confused... Ubuntu has System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager and then, Applicatioins -> Ubuntu Software Center whats the difference, just personal preference?
[06:47] <becker_11> Rebelstar: that ones above me I'm sorry I haven't used compiz ... can you get to a shell at all?
[06:47] <RPG-Master> arand, I guess I'm just going to trudge through the mess then :/
[06:47] <Jon-> Last call before I go to bed [for real this time haha]: hplip + samba w/ HP F4180 driver + printer connected USB to windows 2000 + HP F4180 printer = only spins up and does not print. What is the issue?
[06:47] <Jon-> The driver is the f4100 series driver***
[06:47] <dj_segfault1> patrick_____: Ah sorry I misunderstood.  There's also the "at" command to run things in the future, but that probably would have the same effect.
[06:47] <Rebelstar> backer_11: in recovery mode i can but i do not know the right commands to solve
[06:47] <rww> Itadakimasu: Pretty much. Software Center is newer and more focused towards new users.
[06:47] <becker_11> Itadakimasu: ma and pa will find software center easier snyaptic is more fiddly
[06:48] <patrick_____> dj_segfault1, probably, unless there were a way to call the "shutdown" gui button. Thanks by the way, I'd never heard of "at"
[06:48] <Itadakimasu> alright thank you =o)
[06:48] <cyberbluntz> I'm trying to get my totem dvd player to work. It says it does not have the appropriate plugins. so i fallow instructions here http://projects.gnome.org/totem/#codecs. and when i get to the gst-plugins-base in the terminal it says package not found
[06:48] <fudgey_muffins> anyone recognize this? http://dwarfurl.com/15bac
[06:48] <fudgey_muffins> it started popping up all of a sudden
[06:48] <dj_segfault1> Itadakimasu: Software Center is dumbed down and only includes the common stuff.  So both do the same thing but Software Center gives you fewer choices.
[06:49] <rww> cyberbluntz: assuming that you're trying to play DVDs on it (it's a general movie player...), https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[06:49] <becker_11> Rebelstar: well your on a computer now talking to me so search for the compiz config file in google and when you find it hopefully it will give you the path to the file then just cd to that folder and do nano <nameoffilehere>
[06:49] <becker_11> Rebelstar: and edit the file in nano
[06:49] <arand> RPG-Master: photorec may or may not recover/reorganise better, and you can also choose to recover by filetype, which might be useful for organization, it's part of the "testdisk" package if you're interested
[06:50] <Rebelstar> backer_11:ok thanks i l try it out
[06:50] <rww> fudgey_muffins: That link is inappropriate for Ubuntu channels. Please don't paste it here.
[06:50] <cyberbluntz> ive installed the libdvdcss2 already
[06:50] <Jordan_U> dandaman, For moving to an Ubuntu install on its own partition: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[06:50] <julius632> hi i was installed anon-proxy in ubuntu 9.10 ,but i can't connect with other server alone one.HELP
[06:50] <RPG-Master> arand, I know about photorec... but it don't recognize some files I had :(
[06:50] <dj_segfault1> patrick_____: "at" is designed to do things in the future, like "echo 'shutdown -h now' | at now + 45 minutes
[06:50] <muaddib>  anyone familiar with mod_rewrite proxy
[06:51] <becker_11> Rebelstar: it's most likely in a folder like ~/.compiz in your home folder but that's just an assumtion you will need to check with a ls-a first
[06:52] <burkey> running ubuntu 9.10 laptop froze and when i rebooted my tomboy notes are missing.  But I can create new tomboy notes
[06:54] <azi_> each time i try to open a media file, totem stops doing what it is currently doing and plays the new media. is there any way I could configure ubutnu to simply start another totem process?
[06:54] <dj_segfault1> azi_: Why not call mplayer directly?  Or gmplayer
[06:54] <lindzeyn> Quick question.  When I boot up, my desktop environment won't load, that is, the desktop icons do not appear and I cannot right click on the Desktop to get the usual gnome display options
[06:54] <azi_> from terminal?
[06:54] <rastasean> i am looking for software to control a windows machine on home xp from ubuntu 9.10. any ideas?
[06:54] <azi_> dj_segfault1: i use totem as my default media player for whatever that may be
[06:55] <mattgyver> rastasean, you could just use VNC
[06:55] <dj_segfault1> azi_: Yes.  Well if totem isn't working the way you want it to, use something that will ;)
[06:55] <rastasean> matt, unless i am configuring something wrong, vnc has not worked
[06:55] <mattgyver> rastasean, whats happening?  (it can be a pain in the butt the first few times to setup)
[06:56] <dj_segfault1> lindzeyn: I would rename (NOT delete) the .gnome, .gnome2, etc directories in your home directory and restart.  A config must be broken.
[06:56] <cyberbluntz> I guess Ill have to try a diff player
[06:56] <rastasean> matt, well which app should i try out? i have tried terminal server client, remote desktop, remote desktop view, krfb, gnome-rpd
[06:56] <lindzeyn> dj_segfault1: just rename them to something arbitrary
[06:56] <lindzeyn> ?
[06:57] <dj_segfault1> azi_: That's why we have 20 programs that can do the same thing under Linux.  Everyone wants something different.
[06:57] <mattgyver> rastasean, the best client in my opinion is remmia but you need to make sure the machine you want to connect to is running a configured VNC server
[06:57] <dj_segfault1> lindzeyn: Yes, or move them to another directory temporarily.  Either way
[06:57] <mattgyver> rastasean, UltraVNC is a great one for windows, pretty easy to setup
[06:58] <rastasean> matt, i install ultravnc on windows to be able to control from linux?
[06:58] <mattgyver> rastasean, you install UltraVNC as a system service (best way), setup port forwards in your router, and then connect from tsclient or whatever VNC client you wish
[06:58] <dj_segfault1> lindzeyn: For instance, I wrote my own script that looks for all the files in the current directory, randomizes the order, then passes them to mplayer in full screen and OSD start/end times.  Because that's what I wanted and I could do it.
[06:59] <mattgyver> rastasean, generally the port forwarding is the hardest part :X
[06:59] <rastasean> matt, lovely. :)
[07:00] <becker_11> rww: I've entered the pub key into the form on github but it's still processing after about 3 minutes surely it should have gone through or rejected by now?
[07:00] <dj_segfault1> rastasean: Sorry I missed the beginning of your thread, but based on what mattgyver just said, would ssh -X work for you (ssh with automatic port forwarding)
[07:01] <rastasean> dj_ could you tell me about ssh-x
[07:01] <rww> becker_11: no idea. I've never used github :(
[07:01] <becker_11> rww: okay guess I'll just leave it running then
[07:05] <mawst> mount-ntfs-3g or whatever eats up to 12% cpu
[07:05] <mawst> THat can't be right can it?
[07:05] <dj_segfault1> rastasean: ssh to the machine you want to run a program on with the -X parameter, and it automatically forwards the X ports for you.  Your X client has to have authentication turned of with "xhost +" so the apps can connect, but then it just plain works.  From that ssh shell, you can run Firefox or whatever on the machine you sshed to and it shows up on your computer.
[07:06] <rastasean> dj_excellent! but ssh isn't even enabled on the windows
[07:06] <dj_segfault1> rastasean: Make sure sshd is set up for it: If the ForwardX11 variable is set to “yes” (or see the description of the -X, -x, and -Y options above) and the user is using X11 (the DISPLAY environment variable
[07:06] <dj_segfault1>      is set), the connection to the X11 display is automatically forwarded to the remote side in such a way that any X11 programs started from the shell (or command) will
[07:06] <dj_segfault1>      go through the encrypted channel, and the connection to the real X server will be made from the local machine.  The user should not manually set DISPLAY.  Forwarding
[07:06] <dj_segfault1>      of X11 connections can be configured on the command line or in configuration files
[07:06] <FloodBot2> dj_segfault1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:07] <dj_segfault1> Oops sorry about the flood.  Didn't see the linefeeds
[07:07] <dj_segfault1> Ouch.  Am I back on?  rastasean can you see this?
[07:07] <bullgard> How to determine the current grub2 version?
[07:07] <rww> dj_segfault1: yes, you are
[07:07] <rastasean> dj, yep
[07:07] <rastasean> nice and red
[07:09] <becker_11> :-)
[07:09] <flsie56> hello
[07:09] <dj_segfault1> rastasean: (I've been a bad boy!) Oh so you want to access a Windows machine.  I guess you could still do it if you ran something like cygwin, but it's probably not your best option.
[07:10] <rastasean> dj, yeah, i found this cygwin but enableing ssh/telnet on windows seems like a pain
[07:10] <sensae> All my music has cover art embedded in the id3 tag. Is there a way for me to set up exaile or rhythmbox to automatically load this art?
[07:10] <rastasean> enabling*
[07:10] <dj_segfault1> rastasean: Given that, I probably missed enough of your thread that I may not be of much help.  But what are you trying to run under Windows from your Linux box>
[07:11] <dj_segfault1> sensae: I know banshee does that really well.  Not sure about rhythmbox.
[07:11] <rastasean> i just want to be able to control it from linux. thats all
[07:12] <sensae> dj_segfault1: Does banshee have support for old iPods? With real syncing?
[07:12] <dj_segfault1> rastasean: what do you mean control it?  What do you want to be able to do?
[07:12] <rastasean> open applications from windows from linux
[07:12] <mawst> This is a little out there, but has anyone used ntfs-resize to shrink an ntfs partition, make an ext4 partition in the remaining space, and slowly move the files from the ntfs to the ext4 and repeating the process to in effect convert to ext4? :D
[07:13] <rastasean> rdp/vnc
[07:13] <dj_segfault1> sensae: Yes, that's what I use for my classic 120GB.  real syncing, cover art, podcasts, and if you update track information it actually updates the ID3v2 tags in the mp3 files.
[07:13] <mawst> Can ext4 be resized without data loss?
[07:13] <dj_segfault1> rastasean: and what isn't working about rdesktop, which is designed to do that?
[07:13] <mattgyver> rastasean, i just thought about something.  yeah just use RDP to connect to windows it will be wayyyy faster than VNC
[07:14] <rastasean> maybe the service is not open on windows but it never connects
[07:14] <mattgyver> rastasean, what version of windows is it?
[07:14] <rastasean> xp home
[07:14] <dj_segfault1> mawst: What release of Ubuntu? Even 9.04 had dodgy ext4 support
[07:14] <mattgyver> rastasean, its not enabled by design.. ahem.. it can be done though.
[07:15] <mawst> 9.10
[07:15] <rastasean> right-click my computer > remote desktop. check mark is checked
[07:16] <mattgyver> rastasean, fireup tsclient and then use the RDP protocol to connect, might require a forward in your router to point to that machine, i think its 3389
[07:16] <cyberbluntz> OK so I still cant get a dvd player to work, I tried all the steps here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Troubleshooting including the chmod 660, which gave me an error: tek@tek:~$ sudo chmod 660 /dev/sr0; chgrp cdrom /dev/sr0
[07:16] <cyberbluntz> chgrp: changing group of `/dev/sr0': Operation not permitted
[07:16] <dj_segfault1> cyberbluntz: Did you run chgrp as you, or using sudo, or as root?  You probably can't do it with just your login.
[07:17] <cyberbluntz> I typed sudo as u can see above
[07:17] <rastasean> tsclient is terminal server client, right?
[07:18] <mattgyver> rastasean, yea
[07:18] <dj_segfault1> cyberbluntz: Nope.  That command will use sudo for the chmod, but not the chgrp.  Put sudo before chgrp too
[07:18] <dj_segfault1> rastasean: Yes.
[07:18] <cyberbluntz> oic
[07:19] <paddymelon> hey, is it possible to convert my Java program (.jar) to a binary (.bin)?
[07:19] <dj_segfault1> cyberbluntz: If you put quotes around the two commands I think sudo would have handled them both
[07:19] <dj_segfault1> paddymelon: I think there are commercial programs to do that, but what exactly are you hoping to accomplish?
[07:20] <hungnv> is there available driver for Xerox document center 286 on ubuntu 9.04? please give me solution
[07:20] <paddymelon> dj_segfault1, I have a shell that doesn't support Java but, does support .bin, since I'm a Java programmer, thought converting to a bin would be good?
[07:20] <hungnv> thankl
[07:21] <dj_segfault1> paddymelon: what most people do is make a one-line shell script that calls it.  Or use Java Web Start.
[07:22] <cyberbluntz> sudo "chmod 660 /dev/sr0"; "chgrp cdrom /dev/sr0"
[07:22] <cyberbluntz>  ?
[07:22] <dj_segfault1> paddymelon: What you you mean by a .bin
[07:22] <paddymelon> dj_segfault1, but Java is not installed, this is a server
[07:22] <cyberbluntz> kind of like xhtml
[07:22] <paddymelon> dj_segfault1 a binary file, eg. that in /usr/bin
[07:22] <dj_segfault1> paddymelon: That will never work.  You have to install java.
[07:22] <paddymelon> dj_segfault1, OK
[07:22] <cyberbluntz> nah, doesnt work
[07:23] <dj_segfault1> cyberbluntz: sudo "chmod 660 /dev/sr0 ; chgrp cdrom /dev/sr0"
[07:23] <dj_segfault1> paddymelon: You can install it anywhere, including your home directory if you don't have root, but at least the runtime (JRE) has to be on there.
[07:24] <cyberbluntz> sudo: chmod 660 /dev/sr0 ; chgrp cdrom /dev/sr0: command not found
[07:24] <dj_segfault1> What program do you you to produce web-based apache stats (visitors, popular pages, etc)?  I've tried for about two hours to get awstats working
[07:25] <cyberbluntz> nvm
[07:25] <s7> hello, can someone help with this: fetchmail: no mailservers have been specified.
[07:25] <dj_segfault1> cyberbluntz: Ah, right.  You'll have to sudo: chmod 660 /dev/sr0 ; sudo chgrp cdrom /dev/sr0
[07:26] <cyberbluntz> chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/sr0': Operation not permitted
[07:26] <cyberbluntz> is the some variable i need to change in the command?
[07:27] <darolu> cyberbluntz: the dev list is filled everytime you boot, it is futile to change permissions that way; you should edit your fstab file
[07:27] <vizru> Hello, I'm having some difficulties with my partition table. It says "Can't create more than 4 primary partitions" in gparted.  I googled this and I'm afraid to do anything because I don't want to break anything.
[07:27] <Boots32M> halp usb not mounting!! read forums they suggested a kde file manager called dolphin... will this run on 9.10 karmic netbook remix??? do I have to get Kde to install dolphin?
[07:27] <hackel> Anyone know of a way to automatically give PPA packages a lower priority?  I've tried "Pin: release o=LP-PPA-*" but this doesn't work...
[07:27] <Pizik> Hola, does anyone know what package Ubuntu used for Pidgin integration on the User menu in 8.10? Does 9.10 still do it?
[07:27] <paddymelon> dj_sefault1, Just got told by admins that, uses too many resources...
[07:27] <dj_segfault1> cyberbluntz: Ferreal?  You put in the sudo twice like that and it didn't work?  Maybe because it's a device special  file instead of a real file you can't do that.
[07:27] <cyberbluntz> plz refer to this page. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Troubleshooting
[07:27] <paddymelon> so, a .bin would be nice
[07:27] <paddymelon> dj_segfault, what are those commercial tools?
[07:28] <sensae> dj_segfault1: Wow, banshee is pretty nice. Does it automatically watch the folders you add?
[07:28] <federman> im having problems installing
[07:28] <tom23902304> hey guys. i've got a windows maching w/out a monitor that i want to put ubunty onto, is there any way to get it on there without attaching a monitor?
[07:28] <dj_segfault1> sensae: I think so but I usually tell it to rescan manually since I keep mine on external USB drive
[07:29] <Boots32M> wished my usb drive would mount:(
[07:29] <dj_segfault1> paddymelon: Don't know offhand.  But just the JRE isn't very big (that's the runtime engine without the compiler, etc.)
[07:29] <federman> anyone know why the install disk for 9.10 would cause a gpu crash or how to get around it?
[07:29] <Pizik> Boots32M: I don't know why you would need Dolphin to mount a USB disk
[07:29] <Boots32M> <<<<noob
[07:30] <indus> federman, which gpu are you using
[07:30] <Boots32M> I don't know either:)
[07:30] <dj_segfault1> vizru: did someone help you yet?
[07:30] <indus> sensae, rhythmbox also does, and so does banshee yes
[07:30] <Boots32M> thats what it said in forums, I just want my usb to mount
[07:30] <Pizik> Boots32M: I am also pretty much a noob, but stick your USB drive in, open a terminal and type lsusb and see if you see it listed
[07:30] <federman> well i assume that's what it is. i get a horizontal bar that looks liek noise after selecting any option from the install cd
[07:30] <vizru> dj_segfault1: no, I'm wondering if I can put my windows partition in an extended partition without breaking it
[07:30] <federman> and ive tried several cds, so it isnt the particular disk
[07:31] <indus> Boots32M, a usb hard disk? unplug it, then plug it in again and in a terminal type dmesg | tail
[07:31] <dj_segfault1> Boots32M: Unplug it, and in a terminal type "tail -f /var/log/messages".  Then plug it in and pastebin what's in that terminal.
[07:31] <vizru> dj_segfault1: will it still boot, normally?
[07:31] <Boots32M> Pizik, Did that and it didn't register as there. then I turned udev on and off and that didnt' work
[07:31] <Pizik> Boots32M: then do as indus said ;o)
[07:31] <bullgard> I am using Grub version 1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4.1. My kernel command line includes the boot parameters ro, quiet and splash. How to configure my Ubuntu 9.10 computer so that it will start without boot parameters quiet and splash?
[07:32] <dj_segfault1> vizru: I'm pretty sure anything but boot can be in an extended partition these days.  That not used to ne the case, so if this is an older machine or distro, be careful.
[07:32] <indus> bullgard, well, remove it from the /etc/default/grub file
[07:32] <Boots32M> indus, dj_Seg will do.... brb
[07:32] <Pizik> does anyone know what package Ubuntu used for Pidgin integration on the User menu in 8.10? Does 9.10 still do it?
[07:32] <Boots32M> all will be in pastebin will return soon
[07:32] <vizru> dj_segfault1: so swap and a mass storage partition can be in extended, but my "/" must be in it's own primary partition?
[07:33] <pangolin_rollin> any experts on gps or fingerprint readers in ubuntu here?
[07:33] <Boots32M> indus, usb thumb drive
[07:33] <indus> Boots32M, pen drive ?
[07:33] <Pizik> yes indus
[07:33] <dj_segfault1> Pizik: pidgin-libnotify?
[07:33] <indus> Boots32M, what brand is it? try a different usb port. at the back, not the front
[07:33] <ripperda> I have a shell script that keeps stopping if I background it. is there any way to identify why a script is stopped? (it did not exit, it's just in the "stopped" state in ps)
[07:33] <Pizik> dj_segfault1:  asking me or telling me? ;o)
[07:34] <dj_segfault1> vizru: Boot, not root.  Not necessarily the same thing.  but probably the same thing in your case.
[07:34] <vizru> dj_segfault1: if it doesn't have the boot flag, can it still be boot?  Sorry for so many questions
[07:34] <pangolin_rollin> quit nooo help
[07:35] <dj_segfault1> Pizik: The description in Synaptic says "pidgin-libnotify is a Pidgin plugin which displays notification bubbles in Pidgin using libnotify and notification-daemon." which sounds like what you want
[07:35] <cyberbluntz> ok I got the command to work and I'm still seeing this same error No URI handler implemented for "dvd".
[07:35] <dj_segfault1> vizru: I don't remember if that's still used or not.
[07:35] <indus> cyberbluntz, use vlc to play it or mplayer
[07:35] <vizru> dj_segfault1: Thank you for the help
[07:35] <Pizik> dj_segfault1: Maybe I did not explain myself well. In 8.10 I had a menu on the lower bar that had options for setting my status for Pidgin, that is what I want.
[07:36] <cyberbluntz> Ive tried real player already
[07:37] <bullgard> indus: Do you mean to remove the two boot parameters only or do you mean to remove the whole line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"?
[07:37] <mattgyver> Pizik, i thought that was at the top now, where your user name is shown in 9.10
[07:37] <dj_segfault1> Pizik: Ah.  You want the "indicator-applet-session" applet on the control panel.  Right click on panel, chose add to panel, and chose that one (not indicator-applet)
[07:38] <dj_segfault1> vizru: NP.  Gotta check off soon though.  2:40am here.
[07:38] <Pizik> Thank you, I shall look for it
[07:38] <indus> bullgard, remove teh parameters only
[07:38] <bullgard> indus: Thank you for advising.
[07:39] <cyberbluntz> Mplayer is giving me a fatal error: Error opening/initializing the selected video_out(-vo) device.
[07:39] <Pizik> dj_segfault1: awesome, exactly what I wanted. Installing now. ty and good bye
[07:39] <indus> cyberbluntz, what file is this ?
[07:40] <dj_segfault1> Pizik:  Use it for good, not evil!
[07:40] <cyberbluntz> a dvd from redbox
[07:41] <cyberbluntz> any explanation?
[07:41] <Boots32M> dj_segfault1, indus, pluged that drive in every port then did the comparative pasting for paste bin: http://pastebin.com/zE88na9V
[07:41] <indus> Boots32M, what does lsusb say
[07:42] <Boots32M> Oh umm says the drive doesn't exist
[07:42] <cyberbluntz> is my only solution atm to go use windows to watch it? :(
[07:42] <ergergerg> guis
[07:42] <Boots32M> but I see it and its right there... I swear!!:)
[07:42] <dj_segfault1> Boots32M: Those lines are about your keyboard.  Nothing in there about devices?  Maybe you need to wait longer.  I did see a udev line at the end
[07:42] <Boots32M> kk will do again and wait longer
[07:42] <Boots32M> brb
[07:42] <indus> Boots32M, can you paste lsusb also
[07:43] <Boots32M> sure
[07:43] <ergergerg> is there a fix for ubuntu being crappy while playing in hulu at full screen ?
[07:43] <indus> ergergerg, thats flash being crappy
[07:43] <ergergerg> indus, im not going into a blaming fight i just want to fix it
[07:43] <bullgard> indus: I did as you advised and rebooted. I cannot discern any difference. Still, there are no boot-up messages appearing.
[07:44] <iliev> ловите суки
[07:44] <indus> bullgard, i didnt advice to reboot
[07:44] <iliev> really??
[07:44] <indus> ergergerg, you cant fix it, try using google chrome
[07:44] <iliev> wooow
[07:44] <dj_segfault1> cyberbluntz: How about a windows VM instance on your linux box?
[07:45] <indus> bullgard, what brand of pen dri ve is it? does it work on windows
[07:45] <cyberbluntz> I already have the vice versa
[07:45] <cyberbluntz> triple boot
[07:45] <iliev> приивет
[07:45] <cyberbluntz> no point really
[07:45] <iliev> как  дела?
[07:45] <robert__> _nick SirRK
[07:46] <iliev> я тоже зашел
[07:46] <nomad77> bullgard: use "verbose slash=silent" maybe? w/o the quotes. worked in old grub.
[07:46] <bullgard> indus: I do not use any pen drive.
[07:46] <indus> bullgard, oops sorry wrong nick :D
[07:46] <cyberbluntz> would I beable to run the iso's from a ntfs file system?
[07:46] <indus> bullgard, try removing the lines from grub then
[07:47] <nomad77> /s/splash/slash sorry
[07:47] <indus> bullgard, ok sorry you need to run update-grub
[07:47] <indus> bullgard, after any grub edits run update-grub
[07:47] <cyberbluntz> Or should I make a fat32 and put em there?
[07:49] <texomobile> hi
[07:49] <cyberbluntz> hi
[07:49] <claws_> is it possible for me to set terminal as desktop background and be able to use it ?
[07:49] <cyberbluntz> !hi
[07:49] <ergergerg> hi!
[07:50] <cyberbluntz> !fr
[07:50] <Boots32M> DJ_seg
[07:50] <bullgard> indus: This worked. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[07:50] <texomobile> thanks, havent been on irc in over 15 yrs...anyhow i am looking for where the grub configuration file is located in 9.10
[07:50] <indus> bullgard, ok
[07:51] <indus> Boots32M, lsusb pasted?
[07:51] <unop> texomobile, /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:51] <DelphiWorld> hi all
[07:51] <DelphiWorld> please i am sory for this question:
[07:51] <texomobile> also is there a equivalent to inittab?
[07:51] <DelphiWorld> what is the library for jpeg2dev?
[07:51] <Boots32M> dj_segfault1, indus here's the pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/enF8MBUB
[07:51] <DelphiWorld> required package to install
[07:51] <zebastian> help, my internet connection seems to work fine when i plug the cable directly to my laptop but if i try to use the linksys cisco router both the wired and wireless connection dont seem to work, even when i login succesfully i cant seem to get any good connection and wicd displays it as 100% connected
[07:52] <Whit2spring> hey..guys Does anybody help me ? i am using chrome browser and just have downloaded one's file from google , but The file extesion was .download . what is extension .download ? how can i execute .download file ?
[07:52] <zebastian> its a wireless-G broadband router
[07:52] <indus> Boots32M, thats not llsusb
[07:52] <Boots32M> my bad I was seeing what I wanted to:)
[07:52] <flaarg> Whit2spring: rename it to the correct extension
[07:52] <Boots32M> brb
[07:52] <DelphiWorld> zebastian: how your ISP connect you to the internet? static IP? PPPOE?
[07:53] <zebastian> DelphiWorld: how do i find this out?
[07:53] <zebastian> i am on a cable connection
[07:53] <unop> texomobile, upstart replaces sysvinit on ubuntu.
[07:53] <unop> !upstart
[07:53] <texomobile> super thanks unop found it was looking for a .lst file
[07:53] <Whit2spring> flaarg, thx for fast answer
[07:53] <DelphiWorld> zebastian: you use ubuntu?
[07:54] <zebastian> yes, i use ubuntu hardy
[07:54] <unop> claws_, maybe not a real background but you could set any window on the 'desktop' layer tho.
[07:54] <Boots32M> indus, I got a response that says it can't find it, but did point me back to lsusb
[07:54] <zebastian> by the way more specifically i have a WRT54G2 V1 router
[07:54] <indus> Boots32M, lsusb is a command in the terminal , just type it
[07:54] <indus> Boots32M, iam not sure what you mean it cant find it
[07:54] <texomobile> unop , I read that about upstart is there a config file for that somewhere? I want to boot into text mode and just run startx when I need it
[07:54] <DelphiWorld> zebastian: reset the router to default config
[07:54] <Boots32M> I typed two l's
[07:55] <Boots32M> instead of one
[07:55] <zebastian> DelphiWorld: how do i do that from ubuntu? you see i set up the router when it had windows
[07:55] <Boots32M> I'll paste it again:)
[07:55] <zebastian> with the cd
[07:55] <Boots32M> brb
[07:55] <zebastian> i threw that away when i switched to ubuntu
[07:55] <DelphiWorld> zebastian: and go to your ubuntu shell and type: ifconfig and check your ethernet nic ip
[07:55] <unop> texomobile, just disable your display manager from starting up .. simple :)
[07:55] <unop> !boot | texomobile
[07:55] <cyberbluntz> If were were going to create a VM with linux from an ISO image exsisting on an NTFS partition, would this be a problem?
[07:56] <Boots32M> indus, there you go:) http://pastebin.com/ubGBQtgB
[07:56] <zebastian> DelphiWorld: http://paste.ubuntu.com/386150/
[07:56] <unop> texomobile, i.e. on debian/ubuntu - all runlevels are the same. there isn't a dedicated graphical runlevel.
[07:57] <flaarg> well run level 1 and 0 are kinda different
[07:57] <Boots32M> indus, the before and after look the same
[07:57] <unop> well yea, runlevels 0, 1 and 6 are different - but 2-5 are the same
[07:57] <zebastian> DelphiWorld: by the way i did see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1230662 and of course thats impossible as i dont have a windows computer anymore, i am a happy ubuntu user
[07:58] <Boots32M> I need something that can give my usb system a jolt:)
[07:58] <indus> Boots32M, tell me what company drive is this?
[07:58] <texomobile> Great thanks again,  for you quick help! now if I could only get nvidia to suport my dual monitor setup (one portrait one landscape) I would be cooking!!
[07:58] <Boots32M> cruzer
[07:58] <DelphiWorld> zebastian: i think your ip is public, wait
[07:58] <indus> Boots32M, works in windows?seems like a pen driver problem?
[07:58] <indus> pen drive problem i mean
[07:58] <Boots32M> works in ubuntu intermittantly
[07:58] <indus> Boots32M, in windows?
[07:59] <tomatoes7__> anyone know a chat channel for electronic frontier foundation? (off hand)
[07:59] <Boots32M> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1384743
[07:59] <claws_> unop: not sure what you mean
[07:59] <Boots32M> In windows works all the time
[07:59] <DelphiWorld> zebastian: have you configured your ip in the router or no?
[08:00] <DelphiWorld> zebastian: and your ip is static or dynamic?
[08:00] <Boots32M> Its just that after I startup windows I don't want to go back to ubuntu because after I shut windows down hadies freezes over....
[08:01] <indus> Boots32M, thats a webcam thread isnt it
[08:01] <zebastian> DelphiWorld: i dont know if my ip is static or dynamic, i pay the cable company as far that goes,,,never had to deal with htis before, pardon my ignorance, and i had configured the router on the same computer, but with windows and a gui install cd
[08:01] <Boots32M> For my computer the internal webcam is on the usb system
[08:01] <Boots32M> I figured that out when I did the lsusb thing
[08:01] <Boots32M> so its a usb problem still
[08:02] <indus> Boots32M, seems like a faulty usb connector on the motherboard?
[08:02] <indus> Boots32M, the usb headers which connect to the ports i mean
[08:02] <indus> Boots32M, cant really tell without looking at teh motherboard
[08:02] <unop> claws_, an X window can be set on a particular layer i.e. normal, top, below, desktop, dock, etc.  read up on wmctrl (1) and window layers.
[08:02] <Boots32M> indus, is the usb system a token ring type deal?
[08:03] <indus> Boots32M, token ring? wjhats taht
[08:03] <DeltaLima28> token ring has to deal with networking
[08:03] <Boots32M> Well the word serial part implies it, but I wonder if thats it
[08:04] <zebastian> help anyone?
[08:04] <Boots32M> token ring networks are done in a serial fashion so if you break the line at any point on the network everything stops
[08:04] <claws_> unop: thank you.. im on it  :)
[08:04] <Boots32M> old old unix system I worked with a while back
[08:05] <Boots32M> the only thing I remember from those times is that there's a difference between ls and dir
[08:06] <chonkas> can ne one help me?
[08:06] <Boots32M> I was just wondering if usb connectors were all serial not unto the motherboard but with respect to each other..
[08:06] <zebastian> help, my internet connection seems to work fine when i plug the cable directly to my laptop but if i try to use the linksys cisco router both the wired and wireless connection dont seem to work, even when i login succesfully i cant seem to get any good connection and wicd displays it as 100% connected
[08:06] <zebastian> i have a wireless-G WRT54G2 V1 router
[08:06] <zebastian> by cisco
[08:07] <inja> ok
[08:07] <natethegreat1419> Hello you all
[08:07] <inja> still here
[08:08] <X-Frog> where can find whats new in the next release 10.04
[08:08] <Pirate> hi
[08:08] <Pirate> anyone feeling chatty?
[08:08] <Boots32M> Zebastian, your problem can probably be fixed by turning off your cable modem , and router, wating ten seconds then turning on cable modem, wait 30sec, then turn on your router.
[08:08] <natethegreat1419> Who is interested in how 10.4 will turn out?
[08:08] <Madpilot> X-Frog, join #ubuntu+1 for 10.04 news & chat
[08:08] <Flannel> X-Frog: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha3
[08:08] <Pirate> 10.4 what's so special about that one?
[08:09] <zebastian> Boots32M: for how long will you be on?
[08:09] <zebastian> i already tried that a couple times
[08:09] <natethegreat1419> It is long term
[08:09] <Boots32M> wow its already 309 here... I'll be on for 45 minutes
[08:09] <X-Frog> Madpilot, ty
[08:09] <X-Frog> Flannel, ty
[08:09] <solid_liquid> I have to say, the daily build of ubuntu 10.04 is surprisingly stable
[08:10] <zebastian> Boots32M: ill try and do waht you tell me and come back
[08:10] <Anvoid> uptime gives me 5 users. how do i log off the other tty1,2,...?
[08:10] <syva> hey guys, i have a problem using the livecd. After a random amount of time my monitor goes blank, the button flashes, as if it as lost signal to the video card. Although I can tell the live cd hasnt crashed or anything. Any ideas?
[08:10] <natethegreat1419> I hope that they dont change how 10.4 looks compared to the others
[08:10] <Boots32M> good luck... if that doesn't work download the manual and look at the troubleshooting section:)
[08:10] <syva> sometimes it will happen after 20 seconds of using the live cd,sometimes after 4 minutes
[08:10] <natethegreat1419> Like with 8.04 it had a bunch of issues especially with pulse
[08:11] <evilGUI> I'm having a problem when I drag a file to the desktop or another folder it disappears, I have to use f5 to do a refresh to be able to see it. Any idea on what's going on here? I've already trashed my gnome config files and the Nautilus ones.
[08:11] <Boots32M> zeb you gotta restart your computer too in the whole process
[08:11] <solid_liquid> natethegreat1419, it looks very similar
[08:11] <natethegreat1419> Does it?
[08:12] <solid_liquid> natethegreat1419, I've been running it since Friday because it's the only distro that works with the gpu integrated into the core i5 processor on my new laptop
[08:12] <natethegreat1419> Nice.... I would like to have a better processor in the computers I use
[08:12] <solid_liquid> yeah, it's SWEET
[08:12] <solid_liquid> everything responds almost instantly
[08:13] <solid_liquid> there's really no lag in the desktop experience
[08:13] <natethegreat1419> I bet it does. That would be perfect for me usin AVIdemux and such
[08:13] <solid_liquid> yeah, transcoding video is definitely faster
[08:14] <solid_liquid> I've already tried some
[08:14] <natethegreat1419> I bet it is
[08:14] <chu_> Hey guys, anyone know how to change the default login status with Pidgin? I'd like to login by default to invisible (MSN) if possible...
[08:14] <natethegreat1419> LOL
[08:14] <klxklx> will ubuntu 10.04 upgrade when gnome 3.0 realease?
[08:14] <solid_liquid> chu_, you're still using pidgin?
[08:14] <solid_liquid> 10.04 won't have gnome 3.0
[08:14] <chu_> Yes, yes I am solid_liquid
[08:15] <zebastian_> Boots32M: seemed to work, now how would i go about opening the connection
[08:15] <solid_liquid> chu_, have you tried Epiphany yet?
[08:15] <zebastian_> so that i dont have to type a password anymore
[08:15] <solid_liquid> chu_, it's the new default IM client for 10.04
[08:15] <chu_> solid_liquid: briefly, but I wasn't a fan.
[08:15] <chu_> Yeah, it was default for karmic too
[08:15] <solid_liquid> hmm
[08:15] <sash_> solid_liquid: for 9.10 you mean
[08:15] <Boots32M> Well you can use mac address security...
[08:15] <Boots32M> do you know how to do that?
[08:15] <solid_liquid> sash_, I never used 9.10.  I like LTS releases, so I'm still running 8.04 on my desktop
[08:16] <natethegreat1419> You probably mean empathy LOL
[08:16] <solid_liquid> lol okay yeah
[08:16] <klxklx> will ubuntu 10.04 upgrade when gnome 3.0 realease?
[08:16] <sash_> and this ;)
[08:16] <chu_> Oh well, I understood what he meant.
[08:16] <solid_liquid> like I said, I just installed this version on Friday
[08:16] <solid_liquid> klxklx, no
[08:16] <Flannel> klxklx: No, 10.04 won't have gnome 3
[08:16] <Paddy_NI> klxklx: Highly unlikely
[08:17] <natethegreat1419> I am talking to someone that has a 5.04 machine still running
[08:17] <chu_> Actually, empathy is still installed, I'll have a look at it.
[08:17] <Boots32M> zebastian_, are you using your hard line or wireless from your cisco router?
[08:17] <titan_ark> Hey! I am in a bit of a trouble. I changed some code in 2 files and saved em by the old name! Is there a way to recover the old files? I edited them in gedit =(
[08:18] <chu_> How do I change anything with Empathy?
[08:18] <zebastian_> Boots32M: what you recommended worked, i am on the wireless from the cisco router
[08:19] <Boots32M> ok well you need to log into your router and either make yours an open connection, or use mac address security in order to not use a password anymore...
[08:19] <natethegreat1419> titan-ark look for a back-up file looking for a ~ in the name
[08:20] <zebastian_> Boots32M: how do i log into my router from ubuntu? i am sorry for my ignorance but when i installed the thing i was on windows and it was pretty much click on a gui cd-rom
[08:20] <chu_> Wow, invisible buttons ftw!
[08:20] <titan_ark> natethegreat1419, i do see 2 files with the same name with a trailing ~, how do i recover them?
[08:20] <Boots32M> I don't think you can log on from ubuntu.. wait lemme check real quick
[08:20] <solid_liquid> heh
[08:21] <solid_liquid> zebastian_, use your web browser to surf to <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:21] <natethegreat1419> Open them back up like that
[08:21] <solid_liquid> zebastian_, or perhaps <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:21] <titan_ark> zebastian_, what exactly are you trying to do? just get into its default IP depending on the brand
[08:21] <solid_liquid> zebastian_, look at your computer's IP address to determine what the second to last digit is
[08:22] <hexdump> Hi all I have a continual problem with installing java.
[08:22] <titan_ark> natethegreat1419, i am a noob in linux, could you tell me how exactly? I do not want to damage it trying to open without doing it right,
[08:22] <jastor> someone that knows if theres a taskbar/desktop widget or something that enables/disables X systems default system quickkeys? dont like the whole "take precedence over quickkeys you intend to send to the terminal window, so theyre sent to Gnome/KDE instead"
[08:22] <Boots32M> Well I can't log on to mine from ubuntu... but maybe thats because I'm wireless.. I would probably have to hardwire my computer into the cicso router to log into it...
[08:22] <hexdump> getting the exec 48 java not found
[08:22] <hexdump> and java problems with azureus
[08:22] <nomad77> zebastian_: try firefox,url http://<IP_ADDRESS>/  skip userfield, password field default admin iirc
[08:23] <natethegreat1419> copy and paste to another location and then opening it there so you dont mess with another file
[08:23] <titan_ark> natethegreat1419, cool will try iy
[08:23] <natethegreat1419> let me know if it works
[08:23] <solid_liquid> nomad77, that's actually very much dependent on the brand of router, and in some cases, the specific model from that brand
[08:23] <allen> hi
[08:23] <allen> again
[08:23] <allen> :D
[08:23] <hexdump> is there a way to totally remove java from my machine?
[08:24] <thianpa> Dont know if this is the right place. Anyone knows where i can fin rar archiver GUI ?
[08:24] <nomad77> solid_liquid: i have linksys also. but figured it might be same
[08:24] <jastor> seems an old bug is back btw :P ... did some updating earlier and: mplayer: undefined symbol: codec_wav_tabs
[08:24] <solid_liquid> nomad77, it varies a lot, even from one linksys to another
[08:24] <Boots32M> I got a motorola guess what the default password is:)
[08:25] <nomad77> solid_liquid: noted but he didn't check linksys site/manual,etc.
[08:25] <hexdump> try this http://www.routerpasswords.com/
[08:25] <Boots32M> there we go:)
[08:25] <allen> @Boots hmm you mean cellphone or router?
[08:25] <allen> ll
[08:25] <jastor> tags*
[08:25] <allen> i didn't know motorolla made routers
[08:25] <solid_liquid> I've seen  admin/admin admin/pass administrator/pass administrator/password pass/pass admin/[blank] etc
[08:25] <Boots32M> router:)
[08:25] <Boots32M> they actually do
[08:26] <allen> are they any good?
[08:26] <solid_liquid> yeah, and they make cablemodems too
[08:26] <hexdump> don't they make cable modems too
[08:26] <hexdump> ha
[08:26] <solid_liquid> my motorola cablemodem is rocks solid :D
[08:26] <Boots32M> is there an echo in here
[08:26] <solid_liquid> *rock
[08:26] <Boots32M> in her
[08:26] <Boots32M> in here
[08:26] <solid_liquid> lol
[08:26] <Boots32M> here
[08:26] <FloodBot2> Boots32M: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:26] <allen> I've always thought that motorolla was a cellphone-only company because I've only heard of motorolla cellphones and nothing else
[08:26] <hexdump> echo off
[08:26] <solid_liquid> Boots32M, in her... ?  I don't think I'll go there ;)
[08:26] <Boots32M> :)
[08:27] <solid_liquid> allen, did you not know that they're more of a chipmaker than anything else?
[08:27] <hexdump> but hey does anyone know how to fix my little java prob?
[08:27] <opossum_oisif> hi, what is the equivalent of tracker (file indexing) for karmic?
[08:27] <solid_liquid> although they created the "Freescale Semiconductor" name now for their chip making child company
[08:28] <allen> hexdump can't you just add/remove java? I'm an ubunut noob so I'm just guessing
[08:28] <titan_ark> natethegreat1419, it worked! thanks a bunch!
[08:28] <hexdump> allen:  nope tried it
[08:28] <natethegreat1419> Awesome I will tell the person that gave me the answer that is worked glad to hear
[08:28] <hexdump> uninstalled it, removed directories installed java5 then updated to 6 to try to get it work and nothing
[08:28] <hexdump> It must be a problem with the path
[08:29] <Boots32M> you know there's a calculator out there that I got recently that installs java so it can run on that.. even gave the java its own icon...
[08:29] <hexdump> what about environmental variables?
[08:29] <solid_liquid> allen, too many things depend on java I think
[08:29] <titan_ark> natethegreat1419, :) thank you and your friend! saved my old code and all info! I wouldve been in deep sh**
[08:29] <tomatoes7__> anyone know a chat channel for electronic frontier foundation? (off hand)
[08:29] <natethegreat1419> no prob man glad to help
[08:30] <allen> lol for the deep shit comment
[08:30] <titan_ark> allen, :D
[08:30] <rww> ubottu: language
[08:30] <hexdump> yeah this is started to annoy me
[08:30] <titan_ark> i almost lost my code i was working on for quite some time
[08:30] <solid_liquid> Boots32M, the TI NSpire?
[08:30] <hexdump> this freakin java.
[08:30] <titan_ark> rww, :P oops sorry,
[08:30] <allen> what kinda code was it?
[08:30] <tomatoes7__> are children allowed in here?
[08:31] <hexdump> I'm trying to launch ps3 media server on startup so all I have to do is turn on my old crap computer then turn on my ps3 and bingo
[08:31] <titan_ark> allen, verilog code
[08:31] <Boots32M> solid_liquid, egors graphing calculator... got it and installed it from a link in ubuntu forums
[08:31] <rww> tomatoes7__: yes
[08:31] <solid_liquid> tomatoes7__, of course
[08:31] <Boots32M> I do have the TI emulator though
[08:31] <Boots32M> run it through wine
[08:31] <tomatoes7__> i don't like kids
[08:31] <solid_liquid> Boots32M, oh, a software one, not a hardware one lol
[08:32] <tomatoes7__> if i was moderating this channel, i would ....
[08:32] <tomatoes7__> sorry, i'll stop being trollish
[08:32] <titan_ark> is there a way I can append the system date in a txt file via terminal? i would then like to add it in a cronjob
[08:32] <opossum_oisif> why does tracker not supported anymore?
[08:33] <solid_liquid> titan_ark, yeah, use the 'date' command
[08:33] <hexdump> I'm installing the damn thing again.  trial and error I guess.
[08:33] <solid_liquid> titan_ark, look at the manpage for it to see how to format the output from it the way you want
[08:33] <titan_ark> solid_liquid, just "date >> <path>"
[08:33] <titan_ark> solid_liquid, ah okay
[08:33] <solid_liquid> titan_ark, yeah, but you might want to format it
[08:34] <titan_ark> solid_liquid, hmm yeah thanks :) i want to append the date to the log file everytime i do a backup via a cronjob
[08:35] <allen> hey I think I'm doing this wrong but I can't get the msg command to work. is it like so? /msg username message ?
[08:35] <natethegreat1419> I just click on their name LOL
[08:36] <allen> what client do you use?
[08:36] <solid_liquid> titan_ark, there's a command to do just about everything in Linux ;)
[08:36] <allen> I can't click on the name since I'm using irssi and am in the shell
[08:36] <titan_ark> solid_liquid, yes that is why i try everyday to learn more and quit windows!
[08:36] <Boots32M> please mr ubuntu man can I have my usb stick mounting capability back????
[08:36] <titan_ark> pardon my noob question, how do i also add a new line in the txt file :P
[08:37] <allen> \n
[08:37] <allen> ?
[08:37] <rww> allen: yes, it's /msg username message
[08:37] <solid_liquid> titan_ark, :D  have you learned grep, sed, awk, rsync, ssh, scp, lsof and what's hidden in /proc and /sys yet?
[08:38] <titan_ark> solid_liquid, :D nope a total noob, no unix programming background at all!
[08:38] <rww> allen: if you're not getting my replies to your PM, they're probably in another window (there should be a highlighted "Act:" number in your bottom statusbar)
[08:38] <ddavids> pls, can anyone help, i get this message when tryin to update - W: GPG error: http://ng.archive.ubuntu.com karmic Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:38] <thianpa> where can i find a good tutorial for setting up wine?
[08:38] <ddavids> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://ng.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:38] <ddavids> W: Failed to fetch http://ng.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-updates/Release
[08:38] <ddavids> W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[08:38] <FloodBot2> ddavids: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:39] <thianpa> where can i find a good tutorial for setting up wine?
[08:39] <allen> ahh act numbers
[08:39] <indus> thianpa, at winehq.org
[08:39] <allen> how do i show my other windows ? what does Act mean anyway?
[08:40] <sercik> hello,
[08:40] <hexdump> well I cchanged the install path from /usr/local to /usr/java hopefully that does it
[08:40] <sercik> the installer don't see my partitions on disk
[08:40] <sercik> gparted detects correctly
[08:40] <sercik> someone can help?
[08:41] <sercik> maybe is there another way to install?
[08:41] <20QAABM2D> wat
[08:41] <hexdump> if somebody knows the answer they will blurt it out
[08:41] <ddavids> i just pasted something using the pastebin but im not sure if anybody sees it here?
[08:41] <Pierreb> you have to paste the url here
[08:42] <rww> allen: hold down Alt and press the number corresponding to the window, or press Escape then press the button. E.g., Alt-4 switches to window 4.
[08:42] <rww> allen: and act stands for active :)
[08:42] <ddavids> Pierreb: thanks it's http://paste.ubuntu.com/386172/
[08:42] <Pierreb> anyone in here that have integrated a ftp server with AD? #samba is dead so figured i could try here
[08:42] <sercik> is there a way to read the output of ubiquity?
[08:43] <Sh3r1ff> rww: on an azerty keybord it is Alt-Shift-4 ;)
[08:44] <solid_liquid> titan_ark, save that list and work your way through it
[08:44] <titan_ark> solid_liquid, :) sure thanks
[08:44] <solid_liquid> titan_ark, I've written an article on scp and one on ls here:  http://solid.linux-coders.org/
[08:44] <solid_liquid> titan_ark, you really should read the one on 'ls' at least; it shows how much more sophisticated ls is than dir
[08:45] <solid_liquid> titan_ark, and provides some very useful insight I think into using the shell period
[08:45] <titan_ark> solid_liquid, damn the # of languages i need to know! c c++ java assembly vhdl verilog perl and now unix too :D
[08:45] <titan_ark> solid_liquid, hmmm i sure will
[08:45] <inja> what program do i need to add to have a sidebar?
[08:47] <titan_ark> solid_liquid, btw i am part of a LUG at my school, do check lug-sjsu.org and give your comments. we would like to learn more and educate many more about Linux and FOSS
[08:47] <ddavids> pls i need help http://paste.ubuntu.com/386172/
[08:48] <solid_liquid> titan_ark, you'll find it's fairly easy to pick up.  Linux is based on Unix, and Unix was written by the same guys who wrote C, so it's actually very similar
[08:48] <Gheddy_Zarc> hey is it possible if Im loading a package by hand like 40 or 50 files in bits, that I may have to reload one file more than once ? Im trying to load a heap of .debs according to dependencies and synaptic wont find the CD drive as a repo eh
[08:48] <solid_liquid> titan_ark, k, going there
[08:48] <titan_ark> solid_liquid, cool, okay
[08:50] <hexdump> whoo hoo!! just figured out an easy fix for the java not found problem
[08:51] <hexdump> heh heh it was just calling the wrong directory by default
[08:51] <sercik> thank you for help :(
[08:51] <sercik>  i solved myself giving dmraid -ay before starts ubiauity
[08:52] <solid_liquid> titan_ark, oh, you may also want to look through the scripts section.  Several scripts I wrote plus a couple dozen contributed by others are up there.  The bash scripts can teach you some nice tricks for using the shell
[08:53] <titan_ark> solid_liquid, surely will have bookmarked and will go through it in time. too much to digest for a n00b at a time
[08:53] <solid_liquid> heh :)
[08:54] <solid_liquid> titan_ark, unfortunately I haven't taken the time to write all the articles I wanted to write, just a couple, but hopefully there's enough useful info there to help you out
[08:54] <titan_ark> solid_liquid, :)
[08:55] <solid_liquid> titan_ark, in the "What's this Linux thing" part you might also want to mention all the cellphones out there running Linux (apparently it's most of them now)
[08:56] <antoni> hi. anybody can tell me how to run echo mia audio card under ubuntustudio 9.10? it's not working "out of the box"
[08:56] <hexdump> does anyone know how to add a program to launch on startup?
[08:57] <hexdump> is it in /etc/init.d/skeleton or something?
[08:57] <titan_ark> solid_liquid, sure, thanks will tell my buddy to add it
[08:58] <solid_liquid> titan_ark, np
[08:58] <kaytortuga> Help. I have a desktop that use to boot just fine. And now after a reboot it says it waits for root file system, then can't find the disk.
[08:58] <kaytortuga> I'm dropped into a busybox shell
[08:58] <kaytortuga> but I have no editor...
[08:58] <kaytortuga> I think the uuid of the disk changed.
[08:59] <kaytortuga> so that now in /boot/grub/menu.lst the uuid is wrong
[08:59] <kaytortuga> how do I change the root file system mapping to point to the /dev/sda2
[08:59] <kaytortuga> rather than the uuid?
[09:00] <frankS2> is there any way to display what files a deb package installed?
[09:00] <titan_ark> solid_liquid, ttyl assignments to do before i crash and an early monday! thx once a gain
[09:01] <yeiks> I came across bitrock installbuilder i'v neva used it b4 bt wld like to kno au good it is
[09:01] <crawler> frankS2: when you open the .deb in gdebi it tells you what files are included
[09:02] <arand> kaytortuga: use a liveCD to chroot and "update-grub"
[09:03] <arand> kaytortuga: or actually probably grub-install is what you want..
[09:03] <yofel> frankS2: 'dpkg -L <packagename>'
[09:03] <yofel> frankS2: in a terminal
[09:03] <TecR0c> how do you check what is your default shell?
[09:03] <TecR0c> in the terminal
[09:03] <solid_liquid> TecR0c, cat /etc/passwd | grep yourusername
[09:04] <ardchoille> Technoviking:  echo $SHELL
[09:04] <jalal> hi
[09:04] <TecR0c> thanks ard
[09:04] <ardchoille> yw
[09:04] <solid_liquid> ardchoille, not necessarily
[09:04] <solid_liquid> TecR0c, /etc/passwd is where the default shell is set, so it's where you should check
[09:04] <solid_liquid> TecR0c, and if you want to change it, you change that file
[09:05] <TecR0c> ok thanks
[09:05] <ardchoille> Technoviking:  the SHELL variable holds your current shell, so echo $SHELL will suffice
[09:05] <solid_liquid> TecR0c, np
[09:05] <solid_liquid> ardchoille, unless you've run a different shell
[09:05] <yeiks> I came across bitrock installbuilder i'v neva used it before bt wld like to kno au good it is
[09:05] <TecR0c> so its /bin/csh thanks
[09:05] <ardchoille> solid_liq:  cat /etc/passwd | grep yourusername returns nothing here
[09:06] <TecR0c> ard you have to be root
[09:06] <sash_> useless use of cat
[09:06] <ardchoille> TecR0c: shouldn't ne4ed root for that
[09:06] <sash_> grep yourname /etc/passwd
[09:06] <solid_liquid> TecR0c, oh yeah, because it takes root privs to work with that file.  I forgot about that heh
[09:06] <solid_liquid> sash_, yeah, I said that ;)
[09:07] <rww> /etc/passwd doesn't require root privileges to read.
[09:07] <ardchoille> rww: correct
[09:07] <sash_> nope, its readable for everyone
[09:07] <sash_> exactly
[09:07] <solid_liquid> ardchoille, it's perms aren't necessarily the default perms of Ubuntu...  it sounds like he's not working with ubuntu
[09:07] <ardchoille> TecR0c: which versionof ubuntu are you using?
[09:07] <solid_liquid> if csh is the default shell, it sounds more like he's on Unix
[09:08] <TecR0c> ard actually im using freebsd
[09:08] <TecR0c> but i knew the concept would be the same
[09:08] <TecR0c> =]
[09:08] <solid_liquid> yep, Unix ;)
[09:08] <ardchoille> TecR0c: then you shouldn't be inhere asking bsd support
[09:08] <ardchoille> solid_liq: good call
[09:08] <hexdump> where do I place my program to launch on startup?
[09:08] <solid_liquid> I've only ever seen csh as a default shell on unix boxes
[09:08] <hexdump> not boot but login
[09:08] <TecR0c> i can leave if u wish
[09:09] <solid_liquid> hexdump, to your desktop?
[09:09] <ardchoille> hexdump: System > Preferences > Startup applications
[09:09] <demonspork> hexdump, System>Preferences>Startup Applications
[09:09] <demonspork> oh
[09:09] <demonspork> nice
[09:09] <demonspork> lol
[09:09] <solid_liquid> good, I didn't have to type all that :)
[09:09] <FloodBot2> demonspork: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:09] <ardchoille> TecR0c: just know that this channel is for ubuntu support only
[09:09] <solid_liquid> that's why I stalled ;)
[09:09] <hnsr> guys, something weird just happened
[09:09] <ardchoille> solid_liquid: hehe
[09:10] <demonspork> hnsr, I know, I tried to watch that big fight up in canada, but for some reason a hockey game happened instead
[09:10] <hnsr> i have ubuntu on my laptop, and I use ssh key auth for everything, but suddenly my private keyfile on my laptop had all permission bits set (777,rwxrwxrwx)
[09:10] <hnsr> demonspork, :p
[09:10] <hexdump> I'm using Xubuntu is there a way to access it through the shell?
[09:10] <hnsr> ssh complained loudly, thankfully
[09:10] <hnsr> but I wonder how the heck it even got that way
[09:10] <ardchoille> hexdump: you need to ask in #xubuntu
[09:11] <yeiks> I came across bitrock installbuilder i'v neva used it b4 bt wld like to kno au good it is
[09:11] <solid_liquid> hnsr, that's very hard to diagnose unless you can go through everything you did between when you know it wasn't that way and when it was
[09:11] <Myrtti> hexdump: it's different in xubuntu
[09:11] <solid_liquid> hnsr, which...  is still a lot of work
[09:11] <hexdump> ah okie thanks though now I know for ubuntu.  thanks for the help
[09:11] <Myrtti> hexdump: applications - settings - sessions and startup
[09:11] <sash_> hnsr: grep chmod ~/.bash_history
[09:12] <hnsr> solid_liquid, hmm, yeah I suppose you're right, it mustve happened in the last hour though since I sshed to my server not too long ago without problems
[09:12] <hnsr> I do remember one thing, I did 'sudo apt-get install traceroute', and then I got some kind of popup about an authentication issue with updating the apt package lists, or something along those lines
[09:12] <yeiks> nobody seems to want to answer my question
[09:13] <solid_liquid> hnsr, hmm
[09:13] <hnsr> I then clicked uhm.. something, i think it had a button saying 'check' and it asked my user password (i.e. like when you need to reaise priveleges for updating software), and then I just let it do its thing
[09:14] <hnsr> though I'm not sure what it was actually doing, as I was in a hurry to get on with debugging my network :/
[09:14] <solid_liquid> yeiks, this isn't a "texting channel"...  you might try typing like a normal human being ;)
[09:15] <ardchoille> sash_: actually I think "history | grep foo" would be better in case something has yet to be written to ~/.bash_history
[09:15] <hexdump> thanks now I have to fix the ps3 media server java not found again pfff figures.  figure one thing out another thing fails.
[09:15] <sash_> ardchoille: yep
[09:15] <solid_liquid> hexdump, heh
[09:16] <hnsr> anyay, paranoid mode is now set to 'off' and I'll just assume this was something innocent, just wanted to bring it up here incase someone else got something like this :p
[09:18] <solid_liquid> hnsr, I think it was unique to you.  I use ssh all the time, and haven't seen that problem
[09:19] <hnsr> solid_liquid, yeah, it's just weird since it mustve been some other tool/app/thing that changed the permissions on my key, and I guess it would be interesting to find out what and why, sadly my bash_history file doesn't reveal anything :/
[09:21] <solid_liquid> hnsr, yep.  That's about the only thing I'd really like to see changed about how shells in Linux work, but it's so difficult to come up with an elegant way to have separate history files for different terminals without having a massive blowup in the number of files saved for that purpose
[09:21] <inja> can i run xfire on ubuntu?
[09:21] <solid_liquid> xfire?
[09:21] <inja> rgr
[09:22] <solid_liquid> crossfire?
[09:22] <xiong> Game.
[09:22] <solid_liquid> oh
[09:22] <solid_liquid> no idea
[09:22] <xiong> Try wine.
[09:22] <inja> how do i use wine
[09:22] <solid_liquid> yeah, or crossover (commercial version of wine)
[09:22] <ardchoille> !wine | inja
[09:22] <inja> i have wine
[09:23] <Quan-Time> inja: wine is installed ? it basically enables you to double click ".exe" files and the execute much the same way windows would hdandle it
[09:23] <Quan-Time> inja: i use wine for utorrent and a ftp program.. plus "steam" and a few other tid bits
[09:24] <ddavids> pls what does this do
[09:24] <Guest94909> Where can i ask help questions?
[09:24] <ardchoille> right here
[09:25] <solid_liquid> Quan-Time, you don't like the native torrent software?
[09:25] <ddavids> pls what does this command do - 'update manager -d'?
[09:25] <solid_liquid> Quan-Time, and all the native ftp programs?  or just haven't found ones you like yet?
[09:25] <Quan-Time> solid_liquid: nope. i like the simplicity of utorrent,, AND since i already have wine for other stuff, and utorrent is like 250k...
[09:25] <Guest94909> WEll my sound was very very choppy after instal then I installed flah and sound is gone.  for all programs
[09:25] <Guest94909> flash*
[09:26] <yeiks> solid_liquid be polite
[09:26] <ardchoille> ddavids: that particular command does nothing
[09:26] <Quan-Time> solid_liquid: the FTP program i use, im just used to... i used to LOVE filezilla, but since it turns out the devs are douchebags, ive abandoned it and put my money else where
[09:26] <ardchoille> ddavids: but update-manager -d = Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible
[09:26] <yeiks> I came across bitrock installbuilder i'v never used it before but would like to know how good it is
[09:27] <solid_liquid> yeiks, what do you mean?
[09:27] <solid_liquid> lol
[09:28] <solid_liquid> Quan-Time, I was just commenting about someone using Filezilla in ##linux a little while ago  lol
[09:28] <Guest94909> I have followed the quides online and nothing work completly updated everything, tryed open zuse a 32 bit version live cd's and nothing works no sound.
[09:29] <ddavids> ardchoille: thanks, cld u pls help with this error when im updating - http://paste.ubuntu.com/386172/
[09:29] <solid_liquid> Guest94909, what sound hardware?
[09:29] <Guest94909> bose companion 5
[09:29] <lucky> I'm trying to install Anki I get an error with apt-get: python-qt4: Depends: python-sip4 (< 4.10) but 4.10.0-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1 is to be installed
[09:29] <ardchoille> ddavids: are you trying toupdate to Lucid?
[09:29] <solid_liquid> Guest94909, that's a sound card?  and could you change your nick to something easier to type please?
[09:30] <solid_liquid>  /nick newnick      to change your nick
[09:30] <ddavids> no, im on karmic and i know lucid is still due for april... i guess someone was on my system and type some code that caused the error...
[09:31] <ddavids> id like to revert back...
[09:31] <solid_liquid> I think Lucid is a very good name for 10.04 I have to say
[09:31] <ardchoille> ddavids: what command did you run to get that error?
[09:31] <Guest94909> Ok, just useing motherboard, GB MA790X-UD4P for sound issue, its usb
[09:31] <solid_liquid> they're really doing a good job with it
[09:31] <ddavids> 'sudo apt-get update'
[09:32] <Guest94909> SOrry it keeps changing my name automaticly