[06:56] <ashika> So no one has the answer on how to boot ubuntu in console mode?
[06:56] <deema> maybe type /join #deema
[06:56] <kitche> diminthedam: hmm that's odd since there is libglib-2.0.0
[06:56] <kitche> ashika: someone anwsered you about it make sure gdm doesn't start on boot
[06:56] <pradeep> ashika, remove gdm from the runlevels
[06:56] <ashika> But isnt that permanent?
[06:56] <ashika> I mean if I open ubuntu and it loads gdm isn't there a way to exit it?
[06:56] <roryy> kaptengu: hrm there are a few options under 'Alt/Win key behaviour', nothing mentioning 'Super' though
[06:57] <deema> ashika ya
[06:57] <roryy> kaptengu: oh. hmm, i see, that's not much help
[06:57] <kitche> ashika: yes alt-ctrl-f2 will take you to the console then do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:57] <pradeep> ashika, 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' is temporary
[06:57] <deema> anton__ ??????????
[06:57] <roryy> kaptengu: sorry, i thought there were more options available there
[06:57] <diminthedam> kitche: i found libglib 1.2 and 2.0 removing 1.2 shows that i must uninstall MANY other programs too. Is this safe to do?
[06:58] <kitche> ashika: if you want it permant you just have to chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[06:58] <unearth> alecjw roryy, it took the command and nothing happened
[06:58] <VigoFusion> I am gonna try the ATI site for Linux binary, cant hurt to make an attempt.
[06:58] <kaptengu> roryy: thanks anyway
[06:58] <VigoFusion> I Thank you all
[06:58] <HL-Onwlyix> My computer refuses to boot from a CD
[06:58] <HL-Onwlyix> I don't know if it's just Ubuntu it won't boot from
[06:58] <alecjw> unearth roryy: the cd isn't in sources.list, but i don't know why....
[06:58] <anton__> oh, this software is starting to annoy me...
[06:58] <kitche> diminthedam: yeah it shoudl be ok then you can just reinstall glib-2.0 and it should pull the other packages back in
[06:58] <HL-Onwlyix> or the CD driv ealtogether
[06:58] <eleki1> hi all
[06:59] <HL-Onwlyix> because I don't have anything to test it with
[06:59] <deema> HL it's probably BIOS settings
[06:59] <roryy> unearth: OK, we need to add the CD to sources.list.  I think we need to make sure the ubuntu cd is in the 'first' cd drive
[06:59] <deema> you must tell it to check CDROM to boot BEFORE checking Harddrive
[06:59] <roryy> unearth: do you have the CD in at the moment ?
[06:59] <eleki1> I have a little prob with my notification area gaim azureus and other don't wanna go on
[06:59] <unearth> alecjw roryy, yes
[06:59] <eleki1> in fact, the only one who one is kamarok
[06:59] <roryy> unearth: ok, run 'mount |grep cd' -- what do you see (hopefully only one line)
[06:59] <anton__> sorry, deema. i'm back. i'll try to use gaim, cos if this is a problem with the client i'm using atm, i may as well use another one..
[07:00] <deema> anton__ type: /join #deema
[07:00] <xXaNaXx> anyone see my question?
[07:00] <probose> hey... how do i make windows running in vmware detect a mp3 player?
[07:00] <HL-Onwlyix> What kindof BIOS settings to I need?
[07:00] <deema> I told you
[07:00] <HL-Onwlyix> I've tried everything
[07:00] <eleki1> and if I click on the quit button, on on minimize button, he simply close the application
[07:00] <ashika> Thanks guys
[07:00] <anton__> okay, i think it worked, deema :)
[07:00] <deema> you need to have it check CDROM BEFORE checking the Harddrive
[07:01] <ashika> You guys are good here.
[07:01] <HL-Onwlyix> I've set it to boot from the CD drive first
[07:01] <HL-Onwlyix> I even disables the harddrive boot
[07:01] <deema> anton__ nope ..
[07:01] <ashika> Should've come here before the 3 irc channels that didnt do anything
[07:01] <HL-Onwlyix> it won't read the CD
[07:01] <deema> use gaim then
[07:01] <unearth> alecjw roryy, i did sudo apt cdromroryy, /dev/hdc on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[07:01] <eleki1> is anybody has a idea
[07:01] <HL-Onwlyix> I leave nothing to boot from but the CD
[07:01] <ria> ubuntu is very good
[07:01] <deema> HL
[07:01] <HL-Onwlyix> and nothing happnes
[07:01] <anton__> mm, which server are you on, deema?
[07:01] <unearth> alecjw roryy, /dev/hdc on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[07:01] <deema> freenode
[07:01] <roryy> unearth: ok, that is the first cd-drive
[07:01] <deema> sterling.freenode.net
[07:01] <roryy> unearth: did you try to run apt-cdrom again, or not yet?
[07:01] <deema> I see you
[07:01] <anton__> mm. i'm not... but i'll soon fix that :)
[07:01] <HL-Onwlyix> it says "Press F1 to boot" *F1* "Press F1 to boot" *F1* "Press F1 to boot" *F1* "Press F1 to boot"
[07:01] <unearth> roryy yes
[07:02] <deema> anton__
[07:02] <roryy> unearth: OK, what did it say when you ran it?
[07:02] <deema> you joined
[07:02] <deema> I see you
[07:02] <eleki1> anybody has a idea for this stupid notification area
[07:02] <deema> HL
[07:02] <roryy> unearth: (don't paste more than 1 line here)
[07:02] <deema> maybe you burned the CD wrong
[07:02] <roryy> well, 2 lines maybe
[07:02] <deema> does it boot on other comps?
[07:03] <highvoltage> howdy ogra
[07:03] <unearth> roryy it say "press enetr when inserted" i did that then it said "mounting cd-rom..."
[07:03] <HL-Onwlyix> I havent been able to test that yet
[07:03] <roryy> unearth: sounds good
[07:03] <mjelva> any of you have any experience setting up xosd? i'm keeping it simple at the moment, trying to run some of the example programs. however, i get an error saying "Could not create "osd"". looking at the code, "osd" is an alias for xosd_create ("osd = xosd_create (2);"). according to the manpage of xosd_create, it's the function that creates the osd window in the first place. so supposedly, it failing (as it does), would preclude the ...
[07:03] <HL-Onwlyix> deema, what do you mean wrong CD?
[07:03] <mjelva> ... program from working at all. any ideas how to fix?
[07:03] <jmx> Hey.
[07:03] <deema> I didn't say "wrong cd" I said you BURNED it wrong
[07:03] <roryy> unearth: if i remember correctly, it tells you what the cd is (should have the word 'Ubuntu' in the name somewhere)
[07:03] <deema> does it boot on other computers?
[07:04] <HL-Onwlyix> Hmm
[07:04] <jmx> 3rd day here and I havn't accpmplished anything
[07:04] <diminthedam> kitch: uninstalled glib 1.2 reinstallied glib2. now i get this error when trying to configure PAM_keyring http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/827484
[07:04] <HL-Onwlyix> deema, I downloaded the .iso *twice*, both normal and alternate install. Burned them to a CD with an ISO burned, verified both of them.
[07:04] <unearth> rorry "Found label 'Ubuntu 6.10_Edgy Eft_ - release i386"
[07:04] <HL-Onwlyix> two different CDs actually
[07:05] <roryy> unearth: great
[07:05] <deema> HL so does it boot on other computers or not
[07:05] <HL-Onwlyix> I havent been able to test that yet
[07:05] <HL-Onwlyix> I only have one comp here.. :/
[07:05] <xXaNaXx> how do i set Ubuntu to boot up in 1280x720 resolution instead of 1280x1024?
[07:05] <roryy> unearth: ok, once that's done, try the aptitude install command again
[07:05] <unearth> rorry "Cant check signiture: timestamp conflict"
[07:05] <roryy> unearth: hrm
[07:05] <roryy> unearth: that's not so good
[07:05] <ashika> xXanaXx cant you do it from grub and select boot options and put in the command.
[07:05] <deema> so you used the ISO as an image, not as a file?
[07:05] <jmx> wy dont u just change it now
[07:05] <unearth> rorry "gpgv: Cant check signiture: timestamp conflict"
[07:06] <roryy> unearth: if you run 'date', what do you get?
[07:06] <unearth> roryy " E: Sub process gpgv returnedc an error (3)"
[07:06] <HL-Onwlyix> Yes, I used it as an image
[07:06] <xXaNaXx> dunno...how would i go about that?
[07:06] <HL-Onwlyix> It runs from widnows
[07:06] <unearth> roryy " E: Sub process gpgv returnedc an error (2)"
[07:06] <HL-Onwlyix> I get the browser
[07:06] <roryy> unearth: OK, so apt-cdrom failed
[07:06] <HL-Onwlyix> the CD has all the folders
[07:06] <deema> hm
[07:06] <ashika> Oh can someone help me with how to set up a swap drive after installing ubuntu. I already have a partition available
[07:06] <deema> not sure then
[07:07] <xXaNaXx> ashika: how would i go about doing that?
[07:07] <roryy> unearth: please run 'date' and tell me what it says
[07:08] <deema> HL-Onwlyix: I'm getting tons of errors trying to verify this CD!!
[07:08] <alecjw> roryy, unearth: couldn't unearth add the cd manually?
[07:08] <deema> what was that about
[07:08] <alecjw> by adding a line source.lsit
[07:08] <ashika> I dont know the exact command but when you go to grub press c over ubuntu.
[07:08] <HL-Onwlyix> Deema, I redid the CD at a lower speed and it verified
[07:08] <roryy> alecjw: no, you need to use apt-cdrom.  It does more magic than just putting the lin in sources.list
[07:08] <jmx> umm go to system-preferences-screen resoulution
[07:08] <ashika> it will bring you there
[07:08] <ashika> and type help
[07:08] <deema> oh
[07:08] <unearth> roryy "Tue Feb 22 03:00:40 EST 2000"
[07:08] <alecjw> roryy: ok.
[07:09] <HL-Onwlyix> I just burned the first one at too high a speed
[07:09] <Nuked> Hello. I am using edgt, and I tried to copy some files onto my 1gb thumb drive, and now edgy doesn't recognize it, and windows refuses to recognize it. What can I do?
[07:09] <roryy> unearth: ok, we need to set your system clock
[07:09] <ashika> xXaNaXx: type c in grub and type help in the command line it will give you a list of things one of the m is resolution.
[07:09] <roryy> unearth: this can do funny things, like case the screensaver to switch on
[07:09] <alecjw> unearth: your clock's 6 years out.
[07:09] <jamesrose> How can i boot the ubuntu live cd in qemu?
[07:09] <deema> well it's probably these things: you burned it wrong, bad CD, the BIOS settings are wrong, bad CD drive
[07:09] <deema> probably
[07:09] <deema> or download is corrupted
[07:09] <HL-Onwlyix> I've tried two different install versions
[07:09] <HL-Onwlyix> 4 different CDs
[07:10] <ashika> xXaNaXx you there?
[07:10] <Nuked> can anyone help with my usb issue?
[07:10] <HL-Onwlyix> screwed with every BIOS setting I could find
[07:10] <HL-Onwlyix> so I guess it's a bad CD drive
[07:10] <jamesrose> How can i boot the ubuntu live cd in qemu?
[07:10] <HL-Onwlyix> well I mean
[07:10] <roryy> unearth: easiest way to fix this is to right-click on the clock (at top-left) and choose 'Adjust date/time'
[07:10] <deema> you should go find another comp to try then
[07:10] <HL-Onwlyix> everything wirks from Windows
[07:10] <deema> before doing anything else
[07:10] <HL-Onwlyix> Opening the CD with windows brings up the browser
[07:10] <HL-Onwlyix> all the folders are there
[07:10] <HL-Onwlyix> etc
[07:11] <deema> well yeah
[07:11] <jamesrose> How can i boot the ubuntu live cd in qemu?
[07:11] <HL-Onwlyix> k, I'll do that
[07:11] <deema> but that doesn't mean it will boot
[07:11] <eduhat> do you guys know of other distros that have built in package managers, something like debian, to where i issue a command and it build and installs the program?
[07:11] <jamesrose> anyone?
[07:11] <roryy> unearth: once you've corrected the date and time, rerun the apt-cdrom add command
[07:11] <emilia> anyone know if theres a .deb package for the citrix metaframe client for ubuntu? or should i alien the redhat rpm?
[07:11] <deema> so try another computer HL
[07:11] <unearth> alecjw roryy, i resett the time and did the apt cd-rom command and everything seems ok now, no errors
[07:11] <roryy> unearth: *yay*.  now run the apt-get command from before
[07:11] <alecjw> unearth: cool! now we can make your wireless card work! (hopefully)
[07:12] <ashika> rorry how do I set up a swap drive after installing ubuntu
[07:12] <unearth> alecjw roryy is this correct: sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-2.6.17-10 linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[07:12] <eduhat> do you guys know of other distros that have built in package managers, something like debian, to where i issue a command and it build and installs the program????????
[07:12] <xXaNaXx> sorry, the computer is in the other room, so i gotta go in there to try stuff
[07:12] <ashika> Well the sitation is in Windows with partition magic I set up a linux swapdrive so do I have to do # mkswap /dev/hda5
[07:12] <jmx> Anyone wanna help mae change from 64 to 32?
[07:12] <ashika> or can I skip to # swapon /dev/hda2
[07:12] <alecjw> unearth: sudo aptitude isntall build-essential linux-headers-generic
[07:12] <roryy> unearth: looks fine to me; I think alecjw can help you more with wireless stuff
[07:12] <looktj> what the command to restart mysqld?
[07:13] <patrixx> /etc/init.d/mysqld restart
[07:13] <patrixx> ;)
[07:13] <thranduilk> /etc/init.d/mysql restar
[07:13] <roryy> ashika: I *think* you can use /etc/fstab to enable swap
[07:13] <thranduilk> restart*
[07:13] <patrixx> :)
[07:13] <looktj> thanks
[07:13] <florent_> so good, my wireless card functions
[07:13] <unearth> roryy, thanks alot for all your help
[07:13] <roryy> unearth: np :)
[07:13] <ashika> Yeah I know but do I need ubuntu to format it if it is set by partition magic as a swap.
[07:14] <unearth> alecjw its going through its process
[07:14] <alecjw> Nuked: what does fdisk -l /dev/sda return
[07:14] <roryy> ashika: oh.  I'm not sure; you might as well run mkswap
[07:14] <rafaguap> Hi all! I can't get my usb memory key and my wireless card work together: it's an issue of which message I send to kernel at boot (acpi=force or not)... What to do???
[07:14] <unearth> alecjw its complete
[07:14] <ashika> In disk manager it identifies it as a swap partition and disables formatting and free space
[07:14] <jmx> Is it easy to change from 64bit to 32bit?
[07:14] <alecjw> unearth: cool
[07:14] <m0> is it easy to install java 1.6?
[07:14] <ashika> Because disk manager identifies it as a swap and disables free space and format so I was just wonderinf
[07:14] <roryy> ashika: hrm. sorry, not sure about that
[07:14] <florent_> m0 get automatix
[07:14] <ashika> Alright Ill just run it anywat.
[07:15] <m0> florent_: what is aytomatix?
[07:15] <LjL> !automatix | florent_, m0
[07:15] <jmx> will that fix my flash problem...
[07:15] <ashika> Ill let you know the result if you want
[07:15] <ubotu> florent_, m0: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[07:15] <alecjw> unearth: is your card a pci one?
[07:15] <jamesrose> Anyone know how to boot into the live cd? in qemu?
[07:15] <unearth> alecjw yes
[07:15] <florent_> like easyubuntu
[07:15] <jamesrose> please
[07:15] <jmx> Ahh
[07:15] <alecjw> unearth: cool. did you download that file i told you to download?
[07:15] <jmx> I am so frustrated
[07:16] <unearth> alecjw would you happen to have the link agian?
[07:16] <alecjw> unearth: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/rt2400/rt2500-1.1.0-b4.tar.gz?download
[07:16] <florent_> !automatix
[07:16] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[07:16] <attah> BIG problem; i have sereously messed up my file permissions within my home dir.. which are the appropriate ones
[07:16] <attah> ?
[07:16] <ashika> K rorry
[07:16] <ashika> I have a problem
[07:16] <ashika> What should I use to edit fstab
[07:16] <LjL> attah: the ones you want - it's your home dir :)
[07:16] <ashika> pico wont allow to save it
[07:17] <dv5237> ashika: sudo pic?
[07:17] <LjL> ashika: it will. you need to be root
[07:17] <nothlit> ashika, make sure you're using sudo first
[07:17] <attah> LjL what wouls thatt happen to be as it keeps messing w/ me
[07:17] <dv5237> ashika: s/pic/pico/
[07:17] <unearth> alecjw where do i extract it to?
[07:17] <ashika> Ahh sudo on pico aswell.
[07:17] <ashika> Sorry i forgot about sudo for pico
[07:17] <ashika> and
[07:17] <xXaNaXx> ashika: i don't even think it's getting to grub...i get the Ubuntu splash screen on bootup, then it tries to automatically set itself to 1280x1024, at which point it just hangs
[07:17] <ashika> for options I just leave that blank correct?
[07:17] <alecjw> unearth: anywhere you like, the cd into it
[07:17] <LjL> attah: try "sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /home/yourusername/" for a start
[07:17] <unearth> alecjw done
[07:18] <jamesrose> Anyone know how to boot into the live cd? in qemu?
[07:18] <ashika> Because I think the line I need to add is /dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0
[07:18] <attah> LjLthx
[07:18] <alecjw> now, tthere's a README whihc can explain it much better than i can. do less README
[07:18] <LjL> jamesrose: i guess "qemu -cdrom /path/to/the/cd", where the path is either /dev/hd? (whatever your CD drive is), or an ISO image
[07:18] <eduhat> where can i get a ubuntu install guide?
[07:18] <mirak> I have troubles using auto-apt, it wants to installs useless things
[07:19] <unearth> alecjw thank you very much!
[07:19] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell eduhat about install
[07:19] <alecjw> unearth, sorry, forgot to say your screenname in my last message
[07:19] <LjL> mirak: normal.
[07:19] <jamesrose> LkL: i get qemu: could not open hard disk image '/media/cdrom0/'
[07:19] <ashika> Thanks guys
[07:19] <LjL> mirak: just say no to the useless things
[07:19] <alecjw> ah yay, you've found it, unearth
[07:19] <mirak> LjL: there is to much
[07:19] <LjL> jamesrose, you need the device, not the place where it's mounted. /dev/cdrom, or something
[07:19] <ashika> eduhat: http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/install/ it has pictures aswell
[07:19] <LjL> mirak: then just don't use auto-apt and install the stuff by hand instead
[07:20] <alecjw> unearth: yor're welcome. tell me if anyhting goes wrong. you need to sudo make all, not just make all like it says
[07:20] <eduhat> i really like ubuntu alot, its just that i need to configure it alot more.. is that possible in ubuntu, like add xterm, aterm, eterm, blah blah, add nessus, ethereal, dsniff, sniff, aircrack, sutff like that?
[07:20] <kaptengu> how can I press down a key and see the name of that key?
[07:20] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell eduhat about software
[07:20] <unearth> alecjw, I will let you know. ill stay here while i do this
[07:20] <florent_> kaptengu xev ?
[07:20] <dv5237> eduhat: sure why wouldt it be possible :)
[07:20] <njal> I am having some issues with getting cedega working on my edgy machine
[07:20] <PingunZ> Hi, what happens when I disable anacron, atd, klogd and sysklogd from boot ?
[07:20] <njal> everytime i run the binary my system locks up
[07:21] <eduhat> dv5237: just making sure, i think ubuntu is the best thing ever created!!!
[07:21] <ashika> eduhat: it is all possible
[07:21] <mirak> LjL: blablabla
[07:21] <jamesrose> LkL: Thanks, it was /dev/hda
[07:21] <attah> LjLanything more i should do.. such as chmod XXX? b/c its not yet working properly
[07:21] <eduhat> awesome
[07:21] <dv5237> eduhat: great! tell it arround en ubuntu will only get bigger and better
[07:21] <LjL> jamesrose: uhm, sure? /dev/hda is usually your *hard drive*
[07:21] <ashika> eduhat: before you leave
[07:21] <mirak> auto-apt run make   I run this there is no error, and it wants to install avr gcc cross compiler or pocket pc crosscompiler
[07:21] <mirak> it's absurd
[07:21] <kaptengu> florent_: thanks
[07:21] <jamesrose> LkL: Guess not :)
[07:22] <florent_> np
[07:22] <LjL> mirak, make?! no, you should use auto-apt with configure generally, not with make
[07:22] <eduhat> is version 6.06 LTS old?
[07:22] <ashika> eduhat: you should know the guide I sent you is for 5.02, however the concepts are the same except the GUI is different.
[07:22] <LjL> eduhat: no
[07:22] <florent_> eduhat, no it's a stable version
[07:22] <eduhat> okay
[07:22] <ashika> eduhat: version 6.06 LTS is not old its the most stable build
[07:22] <alecjw> eduhat: yes, but it's an LTS so it's more stable and better supported
[07:22] <attah> which permissions should what files have within my home? anyone?
[07:22] <ashika> eduhat: 6.06 LTS = Long Term Support
[07:22] <mirak> LjL: mmm, well it's for vdr, the configure doesn't go through plugins
[07:22] <alecjw> eduhat: well, it's 6 months old
[07:22] <ashika> alecjw
[07:23] <ashika> How come when you speak like to me it shows up your name is gold/yellow
[07:23] <LjL> attah, it's totally up to you. configuration files should generally be writable and readable by youself though, at least
[07:23] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell attah about permissions
[07:23] <PingunZ> Can I disable klogd and sysklogd from boot ?
[07:23] <xXaNaXx> ashika: did you see my last message?
[07:23] <dv5237> ashika: you get a highlight when someone types your name like im doing right now :)
[07:23] <LjL> mirak, well, auto-apt is just going to fail miserably. just do it by hand
[07:23] <alecjw> ashika: that's called nick hilightting - it's so you can see when people are talking to you
[07:23] <ashika> Oh ok.
[07:23] <ashika> So when I do it the person sees that?
[07:24] <ashika> xXanaXx: no I did not.
[07:24] <lancee> hey folks
[07:24] <alecjw> ashika: yes. if someoine says your nick, it make their name yellow
[07:24] <lancee> anyone know where can I find hydra and hydra-gtk packages for ubuntu?
[07:24] <LjL> depending on the client of course.
[07:24] <dv5237> ashika: typ the first letter(s) of a nick and complete it whit tab before you start talking to hem/her this way he cant miss you message
[07:24] <rafaguap> No clue from anyone at all for that kernel acpi issue?? ;-(
[07:24] <xXaNaXx> ashika: i don't think it's even getting to grub...i boot the system, and it gets to the Ubuntu splash screen, my monitor shows a resolution of 1280x1024, then it just hangs
[07:24] <njal> Does anyone know why cedega might be locking my machine up?
[07:25] <ashika> xXaNaXx: Are you dual or single booting.
[07:25] <xXaNaXx> ashika: single
[07:25] <ashika> xXaNaXx: Then you dont have grub because it is not needed.
[07:25] <ashika> xXaNaXx: Did you try editing xorg.conf
[07:26] <xXaNaXx> ashika: not sure how to go about doing that...i'm pretty noob to linux, although i know a few of the basic
[07:26] <alecjw> unearth: i have to go now. i expect i'll be back in half an hour. if you have any probs you can speak to me then.
[07:27] <mirak> LjL: I installed one useless package that he wanted, and seems to work as it should now
[07:27] <mirak> for make
[07:27] <`m0> hi how do I know where I installed jdk1.6
[07:27] <`m0> i don't see it in /opt
[07:28] <ashika>  xXaNaXx: One second please
[07:28] <xXaNaXx> ok
[07:28] <tat> `m0: try sudo updatedb, then locate jdk
[07:29] <`m0> tat: thankyou
[07:30] <fiddy> is there a freetype package with BCI enabled for edgy?
[07:30] <fiddy> save me from autohinter hell
[07:31] <PingunZ> when I launch services-admin I get the error that I'm not allowed to edit the system configuration
[07:31] <`m0> How do I uninstall a program if I installed it if its not in the synaptic
[07:31] <ArrenLex> m0: that depends on how you insatlled it.
[07:31] <ArrenLex> installed *
[07:31] <abo> PingunZ, did you try sudo services-admin?
[07:31] <`m0> I installed Netbeans 5.5-beta from sudo netbenas.bin
[07:32] <PingunZ> abo, yes
[07:32] <`m0> now i am installing netbeans 5.5 non beta
[07:32] <ArrenLex> m0: Does netbeans.bin offer an uninstall option?
[07:32] <ashika> xXaNaXx:  Are you there
[07:32] <Doow> I remember seeing a page about more advanced uses of apt, specifically including how to artificially holding back packages from upgrading. Can't seem to find i right now though, anyone got an idea?
[07:32] <`m0> ArrenLex: all I see is enterprise3       module_tracking.xml       _uninst
[07:32] <luminousnerd> What the hell...when I ty7p7e some 7's appear and backspace doesn't work right, sometimes brak[ckets a7ppear... |:([[[ seriously wtf
[07:32] <abo> PingunZ, no idea then ...
[07:32] <xXaNaXx> ashika: yes
[07:32] <`m0> ArrenLex: and other files
[07:32] <PingunZ> abo, services-admin stopped working when I accidently disabled dbus, now it doesn't start again
[07:33] <Doow> I think it was somewhat official, or on an official wiki of some sort =)
[07:33] <ArrenLex> Doow: It's called pinning. http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.
[07:33] <Doow> ArrenLex: thank you
[07:33] <ArrenLex> m): what do you see there?
[07:33] <ArrenLex> m0: ** where do you see those files? xD
[07:33] <`m0> i see a file called _uninst
[07:33] <ArrenLex> (Dunno how that happened)
[07:33] <ashika> can you try sudo pico/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:33] <`m0> ArrenLex: in /opt/netbeans5.5-rc2/
[07:33] <ria>  ndiswrapper: changing interface name from 'wlan0' to 'wlan1'??????
[07:33] <ashika> xXaNaXx:  Sorry its sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:34] <ArrenLex> m0: if you installed it in /opt, that means all you have to do is delete the /opt/netbeans5.5-rc2/ folder.
[07:34] <xXaNaXx> ashika: where do i do that from? i don't get to a command line or anything...can't get past the Ubuntu splash screen
[07:34] <ArrenLex> ashika: The editor is called nano. Welcome to 2006.
[07:34] <`m0> ArrenLex: how about all the shortcuts affilliated with it?
[07:34] <ashika> ArrenLex: ?  I just did sudo pico and it worked
[07:35] <xXaNaXx> ashika: on the machine i'm typing from, yes
[07:35] <dv5237> luminousnerd: System >> Preferences >> Keyboard  youll prolly need US layout
[07:35] <Doow> !ask | poser
[07:35] <ubotu> poser: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:35] <xXaNaXx> ashika: on the machine i've installed to, no
[07:35] <ArrenLex> ashika: Yes. But pico is a symlink to nano.
[07:35] <luminousnerd> Seriously though, is this a linux p7rob? I've got a US layout already but I'll give it another go
[07:35] <Poser> XD
[07:35] <Poser> Okay, so basically, this is it
[07:35] <atzar> is it possible to run macosx (macbook intel) applications on linux ?
[07:36] <Poser> I want to remove some packages, but Add/Remove won't lwet me.
[07:36] <ashika> ArrenLex: Yeah I just discovered that so using pico or nano wont really make a difference.
[07:36] <Poser> so, I go to Synaptic.
[07:36] <LjL> attah, no standard ones. they can be different for each file. you could try "chmod -R u+rw /home/youruser" to make everything readable and writable to you
[07:36] <Poser> I want to remove stuff like Ekiga, Evolution, etc.
[07:36] <`m0> ArrenLex: Ah, I found an uninstaller file in the /_uninst/ directory
[07:36] <Poser> but sometimes, it ays it's going to also remove the packed "Ubuntu Desktop" and I have no idea what that is. :(
[07:36] <attah> LjL thats the problem -R has made it screwy..
[07:37] <ArrenLex> Poser: ubuntu desktop is an empty package which depends on everything a standard ubuntu install has, so if you want to reinstall a standard ubuntu you only need to install one package. It can be safely removed.
[07:37] <ashika> xXaNaXx: when you open your ubuntu computer can you do ctrl alt f2
[07:37] <LjL> attah, -R just means the changes will be applied recursively (i.e. to all files inside the directory)
[07:37] <xXaNaXx> ashika: lemme try...brb
[07:37] <dv5237> luminousnerd: did it work?
[07:37] <ashika> xXaNaXx: Tell me if that boots a console
[07:37] <luminousnerd> no not at all
[07:37] <luminousnerd> :(
[07:38] <sysdoc> !xgl
[07:38] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:38] <jvai> i tried to install aptoncd.. from sourceforge... but it didnt.. i was missing a python dependency
[07:38] <Poser> ArrenLex, So, I can uninstall things like Ekiga, and Evolution? Cool. But I also run into dependenciy issues. I don't need the openoffice database app, but it won't let me uninstall it unless I get rid of the whole suite. :(
[07:38] <attah> LjL that seems to be one problem..
[07:38] <eduhat> what is evolution?
[07:38] <Doow> Poser: if you want to make a dist-upgrade in the future it might be good to remember that package though or you may miss something interesting/important new stuff
[07:38] <highvoltage> eduhat: a mail client
[07:38] <eduhat> okay
[07:38] <attah> another seems to be that my entire home is not availabe to my user O.o
[07:38] <luminousnerd> damnsacebardoesntwork
[07:38] <jrib> eduhat: evolution (1)        - e-mail, calendar, addressbook, and to do list application
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Poser: This is probably because some other component of openoffice depends on -base.
[07:39] <Clin1> Can some one test my site and tell me if my admin area opens the imaage yet. I dont know if my browsers defective. The URL is: http://cmweb.zaapto.org
[07:39] <PingunZ> Can I stop the klogd and sysklogd service from booting up ?
[07:39] <wikityler> how do i find the model of my gfx card in software, so i don't have to get a flashlight and look on the card itself?
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Poser: I have the same problem with draw: I can't remove draw without removing impress.
[07:39] <ArrenLex> wikityler: lspci
[07:39] <wikityler> do that in terminal?
[07:39] <PingunZ> wikityler, yes
[07:39] <ArrenLex> wikityler: maybe lspci | Display will get you there faster.
[07:39] <Poser> Yeah.
[07:39] <ArrenLex> wikityler: you know any other place to type commands?
[07:40] <xXaNaXx> ashika: nothing...all it does is freeze the screen on the Ubuntu splash screen
[07:40] <PingunZ> xchat ?
[07:40] <wikityler> well maybe it was the name of a program
[07:40] <ashika> xXaNaXx: when at the splash does ctrl alt f2 work?
[07:40] <ArrenLex> wikityler: it is the name of a program! lspci.
[07:40] <grimboy> wikityler, It is. A command prompt program.
[07:40] <xXaNaXx> ashika: nope
[07:40] <Poser> ArrenLex, they need to work on the dependencies. Power users won't want to keep using ubuntu if they are forced to keep packages they don't want. The kind of "You need this even tho you never use it" is far too much a windows/mac ideaology and doesen't belong in Ubuntu. :(
[07:40] <xXaNaXx> ashika: just freezes the whole computer on the splash
[07:40] <Doow> wikityler: or System->Administration->Device Manager could include it
[07:40] <St_MPA3b> how can i delete program and itsw config in console?
[07:40] <ashika> xXaNaXx: When you press power on does it show you any prompt every or ask you press X for boot options.
[07:41] <clemyeats> are the ATI and Nvidia drivers in violation of the GPL ?
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Poser: nono. If some component of openoffice depends on -base, chances are it actually NEEDS -base to run.
[07:41] <St_MPA3b> does "apt-get remove" remove configs also?
[07:41] <ArrenLex> clemyeats: Yes. But you're violating the gpl, not them.
[07:41] <roryy> PingunZ: it looks like you can disable them -- they have entries in /etc/init.d  -- take a look at 'update-rc.d' for an easy way to do this.  I'm not sure it's a very good idea, fwiw ;)
[07:41] <clop> hi, i guess i am running alsa sound -- is there a way to manually say, "set the volume to 25%"?
[07:41] <xXaNaXx> ashika: lemme reboot and check...but i don't think so
[07:41] <ChaosFan> clemyeats: yes, as their is no source code available, binary only.
[07:41] <Poser> True.
[07:41] <ChaosFan> s/their/there/
[07:41] <clemyeats> ArrenLex: what do you mean ? the user links ?
[07:41] <St_MPA3b> how can i delete program and itsw config in console? does "apt-get remove" remove configs also?
[07:41] <St_MPA3b> how can i delete program and itsw config in console? does "apt-get remove" remove configs also?
[07:41] <grimboy> Poser, If you care that much about efficiency or tweaking use gentoo. That's not what ubuntu is aimed for
[07:41] <Doow> St_MPA3b: I think you have to do --purge or something to get rid of configs (not 100% sure)
[07:41] <PingunZ> roryy, why isn't it a good idea ?
[07:42] <Poser> ArrenLex, But why do I need to uninstall the -Base to get rid of a PART
[07:42] <jrib> St_MPA3b: add --purge
[07:42] <roryy> PingunZ: i think they are moderately important bits of the OS

[07:42] <ArrenLex> clemyeats: Because you are compiling and installing a module, and not the companies, you are violating the GPL, not ati or nvidia.
 ty*
[07:42] <roryy> PingunZ: why d'you want to disable them?
[07:42] <PingunZ> St_MPA3b, sudo apt-get remove --purge yourprogram
[07:42] <Doow> St_MPA3b: =)
[07:42] <smallfoot-> I hope someone can add computer hardware manufacturers who are Linux/FOSS/competition/etc friendly or unfriendly to http://vendors.bluwiki.org/
[07:42] <akk> I must be blind: is there really no way to search for bugs (e.g. by keywords) in malone?
[07:42] <PingunZ> roryy, to speed up boot process :)
[07:42] <ArrenLex> Poser: Hold on, what are you trying to remove?
[07:42] <clemyeats> ArrenLex: that's smart....
[07:42] <Doow> St_MPA3b: and next time, don't spam your question
[07:42] <jrib> akk: there is
 ok, sry :(
[07:43] <clemyeats> ArrenLex: are they not already compiled though ?
[07:43] <ashika> What irc client are you guys using
[07:43] <PingunZ> xchat
[07:43] <ArrenLex> clemyeats: It's the same thing lame does =P by distributing only the source to an mp3 encoder, they can't be sued by the patent owners for distributing an mp3 encoder.
[07:43] <Elive_user25> xchat
[07:43] <Poser> ArrenLex, Stuff like Evolution Mail, Ekiga, OpenOffice Database.
[07:43] <grimboy> ashika, Xchat
[07:43] <Clin1> Can soome one test my site and tell me of errors.... cmweb.zapto.org
[07:43] <Doow> ashika: XChat when graphical, irrssi when textbased
[07:43] <attah> anyone.. how do i assign my home bact to my user??
[07:43] <akk> jrib: I'm at https://launchpad.net/malone and I don't see any way to search for bugs there, just products.
[07:43] <ArrenLex> Poser: and what happens when you type "apt-get remove openoffice.org-base"?
[07:43] <deema> anton__ ??
[07:44] <Doow> attah: bact?
[07:44] <ashika> Doow: if you single boot ubuntu whats the key to go into boot options
[07:44] <jrib> akk: one sec (phone)
[07:44] <attah> doow: back
[07:44] <clemyeats> ArrenLex: so in other words, the drivers are not violating the GPL, but as a user you can't use them unless you do so yourself...
[07:44] <Doow> ashika: no idea =)
[07:44] <ashika> :(
[07:44] <effie_jayx> that site is SLOWWWWWWWWWwwwwwwwwwww
[07:44] <Poser> ArrenLex,  I haven't tried that. I've been trying to do it all through Synaptic.
[07:44] <ashika> ArrenLex: Whats the key to enter boot options when single booting
[07:45] <Doow> attah: you need to edit /etc/passwd/ (unless there's some fancy graphical tool nowadays)
[07:45] <ashika> Doow: Do you single boot
[07:45] <ArrenLex> ashika: in grub? to edit the boot command? e
[07:45] <Doow> ashika: nope, I got winXP on this machine too
[07:45] <attah> help! my home is no longer owned nor accessable by user
[07:45] <ChaosFan> attah: ``sudo chown -R <your username here> /home/<your username here>/; sudo chmod -R u+rw /home/<your username here>''
[07:45] <ashika> ArrenLex: No grub the person is single booting. So grub isn't there
[07:46] <roryy> attah: does the directory still exist?
[07:46] <jvai> ok peeps i'm ghost.
[07:46] <roryy> attah: if so, what does 'ls -ld $HOME' say?
[07:46] <ashika> ArrenLex: Isn't it possible before the ubuntu splash to enter boot options?
[07:46] <attah> roryy yes
[07:46] <xXaNaXx> ashika: i was able to get into grub, and i have 3 options: Ubuntu, Kernel 2.6.17-10-generic | Ubuntu, Kernel 2.6.17-10-generic (recovery mode) | Ubuntu, memtest86+
[07:46] <ashika> ArrenLex: I mean to edit screen resolution before launching while single booting
[07:46] <Silivrenion> i have some questions for someone
[07:46] <ChaosFan> !ask | Silivrenion
[07:46] <ubotu> Silivrenion: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:46] <matjan> hi i follwed this guide to detect cpu temperature, but when i do 'sudo modprobe i2c-sensor' it says: FATAL: Module i2c_sensor not found. what could be the problem?
[07:46] <alecjw> unearth: did it go ok?
[07:46] <ArrenLex> ashika: oh. That's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:47] <matjan> the guide is at: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_detect_CPU_temperature.2C_fan_speeds_and_voltages_.28lm-sensors.29
[07:47] <ashika> ArrenLex: I know but if it wont boot or go console you cant edit xD You can also change resolution at grub
[07:47] <ashika> xXaNaXx: Go to Ubuntu non recovery mode and type e
[07:47] <ArrenLex> ashika: have they tried going into recovery mode?
[07:47] <mikelo> which package do i need to lauch a kde app?
[07:48] <Doow> matjan: sounds like you're missing a module for your kernel
[07:48] <ashika> ArrenLex: The problem is resolution so I didn't think recovery would work
[07:48] <Doow> matjan: check out the command apt-file to find it
[07:48] <attah> is there anyway to recover a lost permission to homefolder from failsafe prompt?
[07:48] <ArrenLex> ashika: if you can boot into recovery mode, you can modify xorg.conf from there.
[07:48] <jyoungxx> can somebody tell me what group I could put this user into so they can upgrade without having to type in a password when there is an update available by the notification?
[07:49] <roryy> attah: what does 'ls -ld $HOME' say?  (still waiting...)
[07:49] <jyoungxx> i'm running Dapper 6.06
[07:49] <roryy> attah: oh, from failsafe
[07:49] <clemyeats> ArrenLex: is Ubuntu 7.04 planning to come with these drivers though ?
[07:49] <attah> roryy ok will check..
[07:49] <jrib> akk: you can search after you click on "bugs in ubuntu"  (assuming you want to search for a bug in ubunut?)
[07:49] <roryy> attah: $HOME will be incorrect in failsafe
[07:49] <roryy> attah: ls -ld /home/attah  (or whatever it is)
[07:50] <ashika> ArrenLex: And if recovery doesn't work? There should be a grub option
[07:50] <NSK> hi. I need a 64bit customisable and mature distro for a server to run latest versions of LAMP. How does Ubuntu 6.06 Server LTS compare with Debian3.1, Fedora6, Centos4.4, Suse10, and other distros? Why should I prefer Ubuntu over the others?
[07:50] <ArrenLex> clemyeats: backtrack. Actually, it's legal to have those drivers as modules, but not to compile them into the kernel, if I understand correctly.
[07:50] <attah> roryy more or less owned by root
[07:50] <roryy> attah: the fix is    chown -R attah:attah /home/attah
[07:50] <ArrenLex> ashika: if recovery doesn't work, they have bigger problems than resolution
[07:50] <roryy> attah: where 'attah' is your username
[07:50] <matjan> Doow, what should i try to find?
[07:50] <ashika> ArrenLex: I was right it is vga=<resolution>
[07:50] <matjan> the module?
[07:50] <ashika> xXaNaXx: Are you there
[07:50] <akk> jrb: Ah, sure enough! Thanks.
[07:50] <Doow> matjan: that missing file
[07:50] <kitche> NSK: comparing debian and ubunut won't do anythign since they are pretty much the same
[07:50] <ArrenLex> clemyeats: And, ubuntu already provides these modules, in the linux-restricted-modules package
[07:51] <clemyeats> ArrenLex: ok
[07:51] <NSK> right
[07:51] <jyoungxx> can somebody tell me what group I could put this user into so they can upgrade without having to type in a password when there is an update available by the notification?
[07:51] <jyoungxx> i'm running Dapper 6.06
[07:51] <Doow> matjan: it was in your error message
[07:51] <matjan> Doow, apt-file, command not found
[07:51] <NSK> how about a comparison between ubuntu and centos?
[07:51] <NSK> what are ubuntu's strengths over centos or rhel ?
[07:51] <jyoungxx> centos is too far behind with the updates in my opinion
[07:52] <jyoungxx> they use red hats packages but they are old
[07:52] <ArrenLex> NSK: Wow, those are really old distros.
[07:52] <attah> roryy ok.. well thart seemed to work.. how do i accure access to really use it then
[07:52] <ashika> ArrenLex: Recovery boots at what resolution? The default is 640
[07:52] <ArrenLex> ashika: recovery boots into the console.
[07:52] <xXaNaXx> ashika: i wasn't able to get anywhere when going to non-recovery mode, but when i went to recovery mode, i was able to get a root prompt
[07:52] <NSK> yeah I have noticed ubuntu is well-updated regularly and this is a good thing
[07:52] <ashika> ArrenLex: That is why the person cant boot ubuntu but now they're afk
[07:52] <kitche> NSK: there is many comparsions on the net between distros but centos is stable sorta like how debian is stable
[07:52] <roryy> attah: I don't understand "accure"
[07:52] <attah> roryy; *that
[07:52] <attah> roryy accuire?
[07:52] <ashika> xXaNaXx: You could have done it without recovery but anyway we can still do it
[07:52] <roryy> attah: ah, acquire
[07:53] <Doow> matjan: ouch
[07:53] <attah> roryy sry..
[07:53] <unearth> alecjw it did not
[07:53] <roryy> attah: you should be able to 'telinit 2' and login normally now
[07:53] <Doow> matjan: I thought that came automatically
[07:53] <matjan> ahh..
[07:53] <ashika> xXaNaXx: You could have done it without recovery but anyway we can still do it
[07:53] <ashika> xXaNaXx: type sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:53] <ArrenLex> kitche: ubuntu dapper LTS is stable sorta like how ^B^B^B^B^B^B exactly like how debian is stable.
[07:53] <matjan> Doow, lemme check the repos
[07:53] <Stephenishere> what distro works the best with games in wine?
[07:53] <PF|Linux> Ok, Im installing an eggdrop
[07:53] <Stephenishere> gentoo?
[07:53] <grimboy> I'm having trouble with wireless. Before I installed network-manager and network-manager-gnome I could connect to wireless networks. Now I still get a list of them but connecting to them always fails (with no reason given). My /ect/network/interfaces looks like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32574/ and the output of iwconfig is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32575/. Has anyone got any pointers?
[07:53] <Poser> Anyone: Any tips on how to improve framrates in Beryl, on Edgy, with an ATi Radeon 9700 Pro? XGL was unstable but provided better frame rates. :(
[07:53] <unearth> alecjw there isnt a read me file only a FAQ which points me to a wesite
[07:53] <attah> roryy i'm pretty sure i don't have anny rights more than ownership yet..
[07:53] <kitche> ArrenLex: dapper is more up to date then debian 3.1 is
[07:53] <PF|Linux> oh dear christ there's too many people here >_>
[07:54] <alecjw> unearth:
[07:54] <ArrenLex> Stephenishere: the distro doesn't matter.
[07:54] <roryy> attah: what else do you need?
[07:54] <alecjw> :(
[07:54] <Doow> PF|Linux: so true =(
[07:54] <Poser>  Anyone: Any tips on how to improve framrates in Beryl, on Edgy, with an ATi Radeon 9700 Pro? XGL was unstable but provided better frame rates. :(
[07:54] <xXaNaXx> ashika: k, one sec
[07:54] <PF|Linux> I need help compiling an eggdrop
[07:54] <Stephenishere> sweet :) i like ubuntu's looks
[07:54] <ArrenLex> kitche: Yes it is, but only because they froze later. Once etch releases, debian stable will be more up to date than ubuntu LTS.
[07:54] <attah> roryy executing and changing and so on..
[07:54] <PF|Linux> anyone query me and help me?
[07:54] <ashika> ArrenLex: Are you like an official ubuntu person?
[07:54] <alecjw> unearth: sorry. i was looking at the rt2570 drivers, i assumed that they'd have a simmilar readme
[07:55] <ArrenLex> ashika: No? xD I don't even run ubuntu. I hate it.
[07:55] <unearth> alecjw im having a hard tome finding documentation on installation instructions for the 2500 drivers
[07:55] <Poser>  Anyone: Any tips on how to improve framrates in Beryl, on Edgy, with an ATi Radeon 9700 Pro? XGL was unstable but provided better frame rates. :(
[07:55] <kitche> ArrenLex: but stable to me is that the software is known to work,
[07:55] <ashika> ArrenLex: What distro are you using
[07:55] <xXaNaXx> ashika: ok, nano is up
[07:55] <ArrenLex> ashika: debian etch
[07:55] <roryy> attah:  'chmod -R u+rwX /home/attah'
[07:55] <ashika> xXaNaXx: search for kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/hda5 ro quiet splash
[07:55] <attah> roryy thx
[07:55] <Enselic> !pastebin
[07:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:55] <xXaNaXx> ashika: the page that came up is empty
[07:55] <ArrenLex> kitche: stable means that at some arbitrary point they said "no more upgrades to newer versions for any software" and just started applying bugfixes.
[07:56] <ashika> xXaNaXx: K plan b
[07:56] <kitche> ArrenLex: umm are you talking about the distro I m talking about the software in the distro
[07:56] <ashika> xXaNaXx: are you sure problem is resolution
[07:56] <netG> hi I have slow scrolling in Firefox2 if I enable compiz
[07:56] <alecjw> unearth: they're slightly different. README isn't in the root of the archive, but in the Module/ folder instead. sorry
[07:56] <ArrenLex> kitche: Yes. The software in debian "stable" and ubuntu dapper LTS is frozen. They will not get newer versions, only bugfixes. This is what theoretically makes it "stable": no new bugs are introduced.
[07:57] <Enselic> I am having a conflict (I think with two python version (2.4 and 2.5) when I try to run istanbul) Here is what I get when I issue '$ istanbul': http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32578/
[07:57] <xXaNaXx> ashika: not really...but my TV has native res of 1280x720, and it keeps flashing 1280x1024 on the TV screen at the Ubuntu splash screen, then it goes blank and won't proceed
[07:57] <Poser> What the heck... VLC isn't in Add/Remove...
[07:57] <Pupeno> Can Evolution generate Sieve filters ?
[07:57] <ashika> xXaNaXx: type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:57] <ashika> xXaNaXx: writing should be there
[07:57] <xXaNaXx> ashika: i did that before, and it was empty too
[07:57] <kitche> ArrenLex: just so you know debian 3.1 just had a release with new software
[07:57] <elTigre> Hi
[07:57] <ashika> Type
[07:57] <ArrenLex> Enselic: try installing the python-xlib package
[07:57] <elTigre> I have trouble with my ubuntu....
[07:57] <grimboy> xXaNaXx, /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf
[07:58] <xXaNaXx> ashika: well, i did it without the "sudo" part
[07:58] <unearth> alecjw im usually not this alecjw my applologies i should have checked
[07:58] <attah> roryy I feel like brutaling my laptop since it doesn't work at all :s
[07:58] <grimboy> No, wait scratch that.
[07:58] <ArrenLex> kitche: 3.1 is sarge. Sarge is old.
[07:58] <Enselic> ArrenLex: I have done that, though in sunaptic it says "dummy".
[07:58] <elTigre> I wanted to upgrade from edgy to dapper, but it stopped in the middle with various error messages and I now have a System unable to run X or continue apt
[07:58] <roryy> attah: what happened?
[07:58] <alecjw> unearth: sorry. it was my fault. i didn't check that the archive structure was the same. happy compiling :D
[07:58] <kitche> ArrenLex: they jsut released an update to 3.1 if you look at their news
[07:59] <attah> roryy *nothing*
[07:59] <Doow> Hm.. pinning as described in http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html only seems to work for repos, I want to hold back a specific package that I installed from a .deb file
[07:59] <ashika> xXaNaXx: type sudo nano /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xorg.conf
[07:59] <smallfoot-> http://vendors.bluwiki.org/go/Vendors -- now covers the DRAM price fixing scandal
[07:59] <elTigre> and I don't have a working computer/installation besides the console now
[07:59] <ashika> xXaNaXx: Something should come up
[07:59] <ashika> ArrenLex: Why do you use debian over ubuntu?
[07:59] <roryy> attah: i don't think i understand.  chmod won't print any output unless there's an error
[07:59] <moises-l>  oi
[07:59] <xXaNaXx> ashika: k, brb
[07:59] <elTigre> is there a installation method that I can use, from just a plain console?
[07:59] <ArrenLex> kitche: Yes. "update" means they took all their bugfixes and stuck them on the install cdrom. The versions stayed the same.
[08:00] <attah> roryy well then it worked.. but /home/attah is still not at all accessible for logins
[08:00] <roryy> elTigre: you can use the alternate install cd
[08:00] <grimboy> Before I installed network-manager and network-manager-gnome I could connect to wireless networks. Now I still get a list of them but connecting to them always fails (with no reason given). My /ect/network/interfaces looks like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32574/ and the output of iwconfig is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32575/. Has anyone got any ideas about what I could be doing wrong?
[08:00] <roryy> attah: hmm
[08:00] <roryy> attah: maybe /home is inaccessible
[08:00] <elTigre> roryy: I can't download cds
[08:00] <ArrenLex> ashika: because Debian is much more Free than ubuntu is, and because ubuntu coddles its users, which I don't need.
[08:00] <elTigre> or burn them
[08:00] <Doow> I like to cuddle =)
[08:01] <ashika> ArrenLex: I see. I might go to Debian soon. I just ran my first linux yesterday
[08:01] <attah> roryy I'll just spent 4-8 hrs on installing again
[08:01] <elTigre> I could download it, but I burned an install cd at a friends, but I can't boot it
[08:01] <St_MPA3b> !backports
[08:01] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[08:01] <kitche> ArrenLex: umm the versions have changed for a lot of software in 3.1r3
[08:01] <roryy> attah: what does 'ls -ld /home' say?
[08:01] <kitche> but anyways it's off-topic
[08:01] <attah> roryy g2g sry cant stay :s
[08:01] <ArrenLex> kitche: No. Only bugfixes.
[08:01] <roryy> attah: it should be 'drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2006-07-12 18:08 /home'
[08:01] <elTigre> mhhhh
[08:02] <elTigre> can anybody help me please?
[08:02] <kitche> ArrenLex: go read the release annoucement they even said they updated some software and put bugfixes
[08:02] <ArrenLex> kitche: look: random package: openoffice. 1.1.3-9sarge3: all
[08:02] <ArrenLex> That is not a new version.
[08:02] <xXaNaXx> ashika: i tried both sudo nano /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xorg.conf and sudo nano /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf , both are empty...the only thing that comes up are the controls at the bottom...no text in the files
[08:02] <ArrenLex> kitche: I did read the announcement. I paste: This update mainly adds corrections for security problems to the stable release, along with a few adjustment to serious problems. Those who frequently update from security.debian.org won't have to update many packages and most updates from security.debian.org are included in this update.
[08:03] <_TomB> erm... where is xorg.conf in Ubuntu...
[08:03] <xXaNaXx> ashika: everything is the exact case i just typed, too
[08:03] <roryy> elTigre: this page mentions netinstall: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[08:03] <ArrenLex> kitche: security.debian.org is only security packages. It does not push new versions. Thus, this update is bugfix-only.
[08:03] <roryy> elTigre: along with other methods
[08:03] <PF|Linux> Ok, Im trying to install an eggdrop. When I do ./configure, I get the error "C compiler cannot create executables"
[08:03] <Stephenishere> Anyone, i dragged my top task bar and its stuck off the screen.. ;/ im a newb and i cant seem to get it back on
[08:03] <PF|Linux> What do I do?
[08:03] <Stephenishere> anyone know what to do?
[08:03] <ArrenLex> PF|Linux: have you installed build-essential?
[08:03] <PF|Linux> um
[08:04] <PF|Linux> I'll try that
[08:04] <elTigre> thanks I will try that
[08:04] <Silivrenion> I'm trying to setup a machine that won't have anything fancy on it.. I need apache, php, and ssh session support, nothing else really
[08:04] <PF|Linux> "sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[08:05] <Esteth> hey all, i've just used the 6.06 liveCD's GParted to shrink my main NTFS windows partition. i've managed to get back into windows XP Home now, but im not sure what to do to install edgey. My computer allready has a few partitons, put on my computer by Dell at manufacture, which i expect are recovery partitions, and im not sure where to install GRUB either :( any help?
[08:05] <Silivrenion> I was told ubuntu is a good choice for such a minimal configuration and server
[08:05] <PF|Linux> "sudo apt-get install build-essential"  ???
[08:05] <roryy> PF|Linux: yip
[08:05] <Silivrenion> I'm not sure which CD supports my needs?
[08:05] <ChaosFan> Silivrenion: just use the ubuntu server-cd
[08:05] <ashika> xXaNaXx: Your installation is corrupt.
[08:05] <PF|Linux> im learning ;)
[08:05] <ashika> xXaNaXx: Those files should be there if you installed ubuntu.
[08:05] <ChaosFan> Silivrenion: there you can choose to install ``automatic lamp''
[08:06] <xXaNaXx> ashika: was kinda afraid of that
[08:06] <ashika> xXaNaXx: Try reinstalling that could be your problem
[08:06] <ashika> xXaNaXx: Sorry for this. They should be there no matter what.
[08:06] <Silivrenion> ChaosFan :: I'm not seeing the image in the downloads page.. can you point me to it?
[08:06] <slicslak> is easyubuntu still the best way to get my fav proprietary software?
[08:06] <mfkg> Can Someone help get Enemy Territory running on a AMD64 Edgy Machine? (errors:./setup.sh: 278: /home/mfkg/.setup474: not found & ./setup.sh: 289: /home/mfkg/.setup474: not found)
[08:06] <xXaNaXx> ashika: ok...thanks for the help
[08:06] <ashika> xXaNaXx: Does the live cd boot for you
[08:06] <ashika> xXaNaXx: ?
[08:06] <ChaosFan> Silivrenion: one moment ;)
[08:06] <ArrenLex> Silverenion: it's the alternative CD.
[08:06] <nolimitsoya> Esteth, create a new partition in the space you freed and install there. put grub in the mbr
[08:06] <lopa> can one use su on ubuntu?
[08:07] <Nezach> yes
[08:07] <xXaNaXx> ashika: i don't have that....just the "alternate" version
[08:07] <roryy> hrm. there was a specific server cd for previous releases
[08:07] <nolimitsoya> lopa, sudo su
[08:07] <Nezach> sudo su
[08:07] <lopa> it's unavailable on the distro unless you install it outside the package manager?
[08:07] <nolimitsoya> !easyubuntu | slicslak
[08:07] <ubotu> slicslak: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:07] <xXaNaXx> ashika: what would i need to do to the xorg.conf file if it was there?
[08:07] <ashika> xXaNaXx: Oh. Well I dont think its resolution and that your problem is the installation. If you want try using live cd and see if it boots.
[08:07] <Esteth> nolimitsoya: so create a new partition in my free space using ext3, then just run the installer on the liveCD and put grub on the MDR? is it possible to backup my MBR before i install grub to it, so if theres a problem i can restore?
[08:07] <nolimitsoya> slicslak, "at your own risk" is the key words. ;) apt-get is strongly preferred
[08:08] <ChaosFan> Silivrenion: that would be 6.10 server cd for x86 CPUs: http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-server-i386.iso
[08:08] <lopa> ?
[08:08] <ChaosFan> for example
[08:08] <lopa> it's unavailable on the distro unless you install it outside the package manager?
[08:08] <ChaosFan> ArrenLex: alternative != server
[08:08] <ashika> xXaNaXx: Let me open mine hold on. I was going to suggest this but its better if you re do installation. This should be in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:08] <kitche> Chaosfan: it's called server install cd if you want the server install
[08:08] <ChaosFan> kitche: i know
[08:09] <roryy> the server cd comes with apache and other server-type stuff
[08:09] <nolimitsoya> Esteth, yes, create a new partition, format to you liking and install grub in the mbr. mbr backup is now available to my knowledge, but you can always reinstall xp:s boot manager by using 'fixboot' and 'fixmbr' from the xp recovery console
[08:09] <kitche> ChaosFan: that wasn't for you
[08:09] <nuts`> w
[08:09] <ChaosFan> kitche: but you hilighted me, so i answered
[08:09] <nuts`> what path is cd drive in edgy usually mounted at?
[08:09] <nolimitsoya> Esteth, id suggest you make two partitions, one for /, and one for /home.
[08:09] <ragnar_123> how do I update beryl from version 0.1.1 to 0.1.2?
[08:09] <roryy> nuts`: /media/cdrom0
[08:09] <ArrenLex> ChaosFan: Oh, hey, I didn't even know there was a new server install CD. Thanks!
[08:10] <ashika> How do you send files in irc. with xchat
[08:10] <ashika> O.o
[08:10] <ChaosFan> ArrenLex: np
[08:10] <nuts`> roryy: hmm if the files are burnt with windows cd, I am supposed to see them aint I?
[08:10] <nolimitsoya> ashika, dcc
[08:10] <roryy> nuts`: you should
[08:10] <ashika> xXaNaXx: Hold on I'll have to sent it its 145 lines
[08:10] <xXaNaXx> ashika: ok
[08:10] <Esteth> nolimitsoya: sorry, im a linux noob, and im not sure quite how i assign them drive letters or whatever, or even if i need swap space or OS-Share space or anything :S
[08:10] <ashika> what do you mean dcc
[08:10] <ashika> like dcc <path>
[08:10] <roryy> nuts`: you should also see a CD icon on your desktop (assuming normal ubuntu gnome)
[08:10] <nuts`> roryy: just switch to directory and do ls right?
[08:11] <ChaosFan> Esteth: forget about drive letters ;)
[08:11] <lopa> is su  unavailable on the distro unless you install it outside the package manager?
[08:11] <nuts`> roryy: i disabled those icons
[08:11] <ArrenLex> Esteth: there are no drive letters in Linux. The filesystem is arranged like a tree, with / being the "root" of the tree and directories being branches.
[08:11] <ashika> lopa: No its available. Try sudo
[08:11] <roryy> nuts`: yip.  Or just 'ls /media/cdrom' (or /media/cdrom0)
[08:11] <ArrenLex> Esteth: you mount new drives as branches of the tree, anywhere you want.
[08:11] <ashika> ArrenLex: How do you send a file over xchat
[08:11] <PF|Linux> Ok, I need Tcl on my system, how do I get that?
[08:11] <roryy> nuts`: look under the 'places' menu; it should be there
[08:11] <Wolf-h26> I'm loving ubunto so far....
[08:11] <ChaosFan> Esteth: in unix-like systems you have one directory structure, and any filesystem (or partition if you like that term better) may be mounted in any directory
[08:11] <nuts`> hmm yeah but it seems empty
[08:11] <nuts`> damn.. :(
[08:11] <ArrenLex> ashika: you don't, that I know of. Is it text? Use pastebin.
[08:11] <roryy> nuts`: run 'mount' -- is /media/cdrom0 listed?
[08:11] <ArrenLex> Esteth: swap space is recommended -- probably 1GB.
[08:12] <Wolf-h26> but i'm afraid to I end up having problems with it.
[08:12] <ashika> ArrenLex: I want to send him my xorg.conf but nano wont show it in one page so it takes forever
[08:12] <Silivrenion> thanks ChaosFan
[08:12] <lopa> ashika: you sire?
[08:12] <lopa> you sure?
[08:12] <nolimitsoya> Esteth, drive letters dont exist in the linux word. if you want a quick explaination, i can give ib, but for now, / is your root partition, where everything go unless you say otherwise. /home is the partition where all the users and thier files and settings reside. swapping in linux is usualy done with a separate swap partition, but it is not needed if you have enoght ram
[08:12] <ChaosFan> Silivrenion: np ;)
[08:12] <ashika> lopa: Yes I am sure.
[08:12] <lopa> I mean is su available by default?
[08:12] <PF|Linux> Ok, I need Tcl on my system, how do I get that?
[08:12] <nolimitsoya> *world
[08:12] <ashika> lopa:  yes it is
[08:12] <ArrenLex> ashika: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf - mouse select - copy - paste to pastebin
[08:12] <nuts`> rorry: hm it doesnt seem like that, no media/cdrom there.
[08:12] <roryy> PF|Linux: run 'apt-cache search --names-only tcl'
[08:12] <ArrenLex> !pastebin
[08:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:12] <xXaNaXx> ashika: you should be able to just right-click my name in here, and go to DCC > send
[08:12] <kitche> !root|lopa
[08:12] <nuts`> roryy: how do I mount it now?
[08:12] <ubotu> lopa: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Oh. Or that.
[08:12] <roryy> nuts`: ok, run 'mount /media/cdrom0'  -- what happens?
[08:13] <Esteth> ArrenLex: so i need 2 partitions in my free space: 1 large one for my files and the like, and one 1gb one for my swap space. i select to install grub to the mbr, and the chances of something going horribly wrong are quite slim?
[08:13] <`m0> hi, what svn app do you guys recommend?
[08:13] <`m0> I used to use tortoise SVN in windows, which was nice
[08:13] <Luke> My avahi daemon does not start even when I tell it to via the services window. how do I get avahi to start?
[08:13] <witless> hi, i have a problem with X.  when i boot, X fails.  but if i "rmmod nvidia" and then restart gdm, everything loads ok and i'm able to log into the desktop.  any ideas?
[08:13] <ashika> xXaNaXx: did you get it
[08:13] <ashika> xXaNaXx: I sent it
[08:13] <ChaosFan> Esteth: we'd recommend 3 partitions, one about 2-3GB for your actual system, one large for your personal files and one about 1GB partition for swapping
[08:13] <ArrenLex> Esteth: That's right. You can have more partitions if you like -- typically an extra one for /home is recommended, but not required.
[08:13] <nolimitsoya> Esteth, you need three id you want a swap partition. read my highlight
[08:14] <nuts`> roryy: http://pastebin.com/827524
[08:14] <xXaNaXx> ashika: i didn't get any d/l prompt
[08:14] <nolimitsoya> *if
[08:14] <ArrenLex> witless: what card and driver?
[08:14] <ashika> xXaNaXx: click IRC -> file transfers
[08:14] <ashika> xXaNaXx: It says starting for me
[08:14] <roryy> nuts`: hrm. linux doesn't like teh cd
[08:14] <roryy> nuts`: what does 'dmesg|tail' say?
[08:14] <PF|Linux> roryy: I got a crapload of results
[08:15] <root__> hi all
[08:15] <`m0> Any SVN app to retrieve and commit to svb reprository , you guys recommend?
[08:15] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin | PF|Linux
[08:15] <ubotu> PF|Linux: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:15] <Esteth> o.k. one 3Gb ext3 for ubuntu itself. one 1Gb linux-swap partition for swap, and the rest of the space ext3 for my files?
[08:15] <xXaNaXx> ashika: where is that? i'm in mIRC
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Esteth: sounds good.
[08:15] <nuts`> roryy: tells: http://pastebin.com/827529
[08:15] <nolimitsoya> Esteth, yes, if you need swapspace. you shouldnt
[08:15] <roryy> PF|Linux: you probably want tcl8.4.  Run 'apt-cache show tcl8.4'
[08:15] <elTigre> I'm back again... netinstall is no option since I have my root fs mounted all the time
[08:15] <nolimitsoya> Esteth, its always better to have enough ram than have to swap
[08:15] <Esteth> i have 1Gb or ram, so i shouldnt, but id rather be on the safe side i think
[08:16] <witless> ArrenLex, it's a PNY GeForce 6800 card; i will paste my nvidia deb info, hold on
[08:16] <PF|Linux> ok
[08:16] <ChaosFan> nolimitsoya: but nowadays reserving 1GB for swapping if needed doesn't hurt either ;)
[08:16] <PF|Linux> install that?
[08:16] <EnterUserName> hi all would you guys suggest ubuntu for someone who does not know much abotu computers?
[08:16] <elTigre> I want  to try and grub the mbr (my boot partition is chronically overloaded and thus all dpkg reconfigure fails)
[08:16] <PF|Linux> roryy: instal tcl.84 ???
[08:16] <EnterUserName> or should i use a distro like suse :)
[08:16] <nolimitsoya> Esteth, if you want to hibernate, you have to devote more swap space than your total ram
[08:16] <roryy> nuts`: hrm. looks like it's a hardware problem -- i.e., drive, not disk
[08:16] <ArrenLex> EnterUserName: I would probably suggest MacOS for someone who doesn't know much about computers.
[08:16] <elTigre> and I am a little blindfolded since I only have console available and no real browser / manual
[08:16] <roryy> PF|Linux: install tcl8.4
[08:16] <PF|Linux> well yeah
[08:16] <EnterUserName> Hrm.. Ya.. What linux distro can i use to make it look like MacOS :)
[08:16] <PF|Linux> ok
[08:16] <roryy> PF|Linux: you might want to check what version of Tcl is required
[08:16] <witless> ArrenLex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32581/
[08:16] <ChaosFan> EnterUserName: if that one wants to learn about computers, yes. if that one just wants his pc to work, macOS or windows (for the rich)
[08:17] <PF|Linux> roryy: probably latest >_>
[08:17] <nolimitsoya> ChaosFan, true, but it is unnecessary and gives you an extra partition you realy dont need :)
[08:17] <nuts`> roryy: hmm that sounds bad =( but in windows it worx.. :[
[08:17] <EnterUserName> hmm
[08:17] <elTigre> how can I Install grub?
[08:17] <macsim> anybody knows witch software is used in http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/ ?
[08:17] <nolimitsoya> !grub | elTigre
[08:17] <ubotu> elTigre: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:17] <roryy> nuts`: i was guessing; it might not be
[08:17] <EnterUserName> Chaosfan: hrm ok.
[08:17] <ChaosFan> nolimitsoya: depends on your hardware and what you do with it ;)
[08:17] <macsim> for create the sceencast with sound
[08:17] <EnterUserName> lol is MacOSX still pay ;)
[08:17] <roryy> nuts`: regardless, i think you might be out of luck, sorry
[08:18] <`m0> What SVN app do  you guys recommend me to install
[08:18] <roryy> `m0: command-line svn
[08:18] <elTigre> ubotu: thanks
[08:18] <ubotu> You're Welcome!
[08:18] <nuts`> roryy: hmm ok...well... ill c...
[08:18] <Esteth> and one last question: do i have to explicitly mount my large "stuff" partition, or will it be mounted for me in the tree?
[08:18] <ChaosFan> `m0: depends on what you want to do ;)
[08:18] <kitche> EnterUserName: fedora core is one ubuntu is one suse is one for people that just want a computer to work in my opinion
[08:18] <EnterUserName> kitche: yup thats what im debating on
[08:18] <EnterUserName> Suse or Ubuntu
[08:18] <`m0> I just want to download from SVN Reprository and then Commit to SVN Reporository
[08:18] <Bilange> anyone has stability issues with beryl on a ATI Xpress 200M, by any chance?
[08:18] <ChaosFan> Esteth: you may automate the mounting (what is recommended since that's the usual way) but you don't have to
[08:18] <nolimitsoya> Esteth, you should mount your large partition as /home during install
[08:18] <ChaosFan> `m0: command-line svn
[08:19] <Esteth> nolimitsoya + ChaosFan: thanks, ill tell it in the install then :)
[08:19] <ArrenLex> EnterUserName: http://duggmirror.com/design/Completely_mod_Ubuntu_to_look_like_OS_X/
[08:19] <andy_> EnterUserName: I believe Ubuntu is an easier distribution than Suse
[08:19] <EnterUserName> thanx
[08:19] <Esteth> well, wish me luck, off i go to install ubuntu
[08:19] <ChaosFan> Esteth: hf
[08:19] <nolimitsoya> good luck Esteth :)
[08:20] <Esteth> thanks :)
[08:20] <EnterUserName> Just so you guys know I am not a newbie its a friend.. thati m setting it up on
[08:20] <ashika> xXaNaXx: Im sending it to you in our private message
[08:20] <ashika> xXaNaXx: check the msg
[08:20] <ashika> AFK BRB
[08:20] <wikityler> with all these nvidia drivers, is the s-vhs output supported?
[08:20] <ChaosFan> wikityler: should be, yes, a comrade of mine has it working...
[08:20] <ArrenLex> EnterUserName: Good thing you told us. Newbies in the ubuntu channel? Unprecedented! He would have to be killed.
[08:21] <Doow> ArrenLex: =)
[08:21] <EnterUserName> lol !!
[08:21] <mseney> i figured out my problem with vi. i needed to install the vim and vim-runtime packages
[08:21] <nuts`> w
[08:21] <nuts`> how would I set flags +r+w for a whole folder?
[08:21] <EnterUserName> Oh another quick question.. does Dapper have more sources than the latest release?
[08:21] <nolimitsoya> nuts`, -R
[08:21] <ArrenLex> mseney: Can you also figure out my problem with vi? The interface was designed by a blind, retarded monkey with no hands.
[08:21] <EnterUserName> for downloading applications
[08:21] <nolimitsoya> nuts`, using chmod, that is
[08:22] <akk> That vim problem is so weird -- why is there by default a vim that's not really vim?
[08:22] <nuts`> nolimitsoya: yeah thats for whole dir, chmod -R /directory
[08:22] <mseney> ArrenLex: lmao
[08:22] <kitche> EnterUserName: it's pretty much the same source just using a different repo
[08:22] <ortega10> in dapper, i used to have this menu option, in which i could see all the hard disks, their partitions, free space, etc, i don't remember the name... now i don't see anything similar in edgy, where did it go?
[08:22] <nolimitsoya> nuts`, yes, wasnt that your question?
[08:22] <`m0> Thanks ChaosFan didn't know bout svn command line
[08:22] <nuts`> nolimitsoya: but what would flags look like ( thought it was some 7777 stuff )
[08:22] <EnterUserName> ok..
[08:22] <nuts`> nolimitsoya: or do I just do +r+w ?
[08:22] <nolimitsoya> nuts`, 777 is read and write for everyone
[08:23] <infinity_> hey
[08:23] <nuts`> nolimitsoya: whats for me only?
[08:23] <ChaosFan> `m0: just ''sudo apt-get install subversion'' and be happy
[08:23] <nolimitsoya> nuts`, man chmod
[08:23] <infinity_> how do i get the scripts option in the context menu when i rightclick on files
[08:23] <mseney> aak, no clue. it came installed correctly out of box with 6.06 LTS but not 6.10?
[08:23] <jmx> How does on go about on how to switch from 64 bit to 32bit?
[08:23] <Doow> nuts`: you can write the flags both in octal mode (ie 777) and that other mode (ie +rwx)
[08:23] <nolimitsoya> nuts`, 755 is read and write for owner, and read and execute for everyone else
[08:23] <ortega10> i have a usb pendrive / mp3 player, and i formatted it in edgy, now i can see its files in edgy, but when i unmount it it says there are no music files to play... any ideas?
[08:24] <Doow> nuts`: just different ways of saying the same thing
[08:24] <ChaosFan> `m0: it's pretty easy, all you need for a start is ``svn co <repository>'' for checkout, ``svn up'' for updating that checkout and ``svn ci'' for checking in your changes
[08:24] <nuts`> hmm ok that should do, so I do "sudo chown +r+w (user) directory" ?
[08:24] <nuts`> chmod*
[08:24] <nuts`> that is
[08:24] <nolimitsoya> ortega10, you probably formatted with the wrong file system. should be fat16, mot likely
[08:24] <ChaosFan> nuts`: that would be ``sudo chown u+rw directory''
[08:24] <HL-Onwlyix> Hmm
[08:24] <HL-Onwlyix> this is a stupid question
[08:24] <HL-Onwlyix> but
[08:24] <ortega10> nolimitsoya: i used fat16
[08:24] <nolimitsoya> nuts`, just +rwx
[08:24] <kitche> ortega10: did you sync it before you unmounted the usb stick?
[08:25] <HL-Onwlyix> Is there a way to install Ubuntu without having to boot from the CD?
[08:25] <Dravas> LOL Windows killed my ubuntu partition
[08:25] <ortega10> kitche: what's syncing it?
[08:25] <nuts`> nolimitsoya: so I type "sudo chmod +rwx (user) directory" ?
[08:25] <ChaosFan> Dravas: what do you mean by ``killed''?
[08:25] <witless> ArrenLex: my nvidia modules are listed here  -  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32581/
[08:25] <nolimitsoya> nuts`, you need the x, or you wont be able to execute programs, and you only need to enter the + once and then stack the letters
[08:25] <roryy> i wouldn't recommend +x with -R; rather +X
[08:25] <Dravas> Well i still have my Blag Partition I'm just gonna need to reinstall ubuntu
[08:25] <Silivrenion> is there a simple way with the server install disk to install the LAMP configuration, minus the MySQL?
[08:25] <ortega10> kitche: it's not an ipod, just a cheap chinese mp3 player
[08:25] <roryy> `m0: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ for more on svn
[08:25] <kitche> ortega10: makes sure the files are written to the usb
[08:25] <nolimitsoya> nuts`, as i said, if you want the long on on using chmod, type man chmod
[08:25] <rcarr> Anyone have any luck with the Intel 3945ABG? I got the source firmware and daemon, installed it all, when the driver loads it says it detects it
[08:25] <Silivrenion> So basically its just LAP
[08:25] <smallfoot-> Please help add computer hardware manufacturers who are Linux/FOSS/competition/etc friendly or unfriendly to http://vendors.bluwiki.org/
[08:25] <deema> anybody here use islsm?????
[08:25] <rcarr> but, it's not available as an interface or anything
[08:25] <ChaosFan> Silivrenion: you can uninstall mysql afterwards
[08:25] <Morrissey> Hi, I think I did something to screw my fonts up in firefox ... all my fonts look great otherwhere in KDE, but specific in firefox they look really crappy .... anyone know how to fix?
[08:26] <ortega10> kitche: the files are there... i see them in ubuntu when i mount the usb drive again
[08:26] <Silivrenion> k
[08:26] <ChaosFan> Silivrenion: by typing ``apt-get remove --purge mysql''
[08:26] <ChaosFan> or whatever that package is named...
[08:26] <Silivrenion> does apt-get work pretty much the same as yum, or are there some things I need to watch out for?
[08:26] <ChaosFan> as I don't know yum...
[08:27] <Silivrenion> hmm
[08:27] <nolimitsoya> Silivrenion, i dont know much about yum, but apt is pretty straight forward.
[08:27] <roryy> Silivrenion: i think yum *always* updates its package index; you need to tell apt to
[08:27] <kitche> Silivrenion: they are pretty close together in how they work
[08:27] <roryy> Silivrenion: also, I recommend aptitude instead of apt-get
[08:27] <Silivrenion> yeah, yum updates everytime
[08:27] <ortega10> in dapper, i used to have this menu option, in which i could see all the hard disks, their partitions, free space, etc, i don't remember the name... now i don't see anything similar in edgy, where did it go ?
[08:27] <jmx> Ah I hate these stupid linux.
[08:27] <akk> Silivrenion: With apt-get and aptitude it doesn't automatically refetch the package list every time
[08:27] <nolimitsoya> ortega10, gparted?
[08:27] <Morrissey> Hi, I think I did something to screw my fonts up in firefox ... all my fonts look great otherwhere in KDE, but specific in firefox they look really crappy .... anyone know how to fix? This is what I did: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig ... maybe I screwed something up then?
[08:27] <ortega10> nolimitsoya: no no, i have gparted now
[08:28] <akk> Silivrenion: so you need to do aptitude update or apt-get update periodically (but the up side is that you don't have to wait for it every time like with yum)
[08:28] <ortega10> nolimitsoya: it was some other gnome app
[08:28] <ortega10> nolimitsoya: disk manager, something like that
[08:28] <nolimitsoya> ortega10, apt-cache search disk manager
[08:28] <ArrenLex> Silvernion: apt-get install <package> installs. apt-get remove <pacakage> removes. apt-get remove --purge package purges all conf files. apt-cache search <term> searches. apt-get clean removes all cached packages. apt-get update refreshes the list of available packages. apt-get upgrade installs new versions of packages you have.
[08:29] <eduhat> can anyone help me un-install gnome and install fluxbox?
[08:29] <Wolf-h26> Will the ubuntu compagny plans to make ubuntu more user friendly?
[08:29] <ortega10> nolimitsoya: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/61728
[08:29] <nolimitsoya> eduhat, sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome && apt-get install fluxbox
[08:29] <ArrenLex> Wolf-h26: if ubuntu was any more user-friendly, it would be windows.
[08:29] <ulaas> edgy nvidia xinerama gnome-terminal, does it ring a bell?
[08:29] <eduhat> because i dont really use gnome at all, and i dont know how to customize gnome at all
[08:30] <ArrenLex> nolimitsoya: apt-get remove --purge gnome only removes the metapackage, no?
[08:30] <roryy> Wolf-h26: indeed; they try harder with every release
[08:30] <nolimitsoya> ArrenLex, yes, apt-get autoremove would have to follow
[08:30] <Wolf-h26> i see
[08:31] <Wolf-h26> do they also plan to make a version for the Playstation 3?
[08:31] <roryy> *blink*
[08:31] <roryy> no idea
[08:31] <Wolf-h26> because Yellow dog is making a version for the PS3
[08:32] <patrick_king> !WebTTY
[08:32] <rcarr> Anyone have any luck with the Intel 3945ABG? I got the source firmware and daemon, installed it all, when the driver loads it says it detects it but no interfaces
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about WebTTY - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <rizo> Hi
[08:33] <kitche> Wolf-h26: porting ubuntu to a ps3 is more for a hobbiest really or someoen that wants to use ubuntu on the ps3
[08:33] <bradley> does anyone know if a speech to text program exists?
[08:33] <rizo> what are system requirements for edgy eft anyone know?
[08:33] <Wolf-h26> i see
[08:33] <Wolf-h26> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ydl/
[08:33] <ortega10> i have a usb pendrive / mp3 player, and i formatted it in edgy, now i can see its files in edgy, but when i unmount it it says there are no music files to play... any ideas ?
[08:34] <nolimitsoya> rizo, depends on configuration
[08:34] <bradley> --a program where you speak into a mic and it types it out,
[08:34] <rizo> what are the requirements for ubuntu out of the box
[08:34] <ArrenLex> rizo: depends what you're installing. You could install a server on a pentium 1. You could install xubuntu on maybe pentium 2-3. You would need pentium4 for kubuntu\ubuntu.
[08:34] <nolimitsoya> ortega10, does it need some sort of special software on disk?
[08:34] <bradley> i think the XP equivalent would be dragonspeak or something...
[08:34] <ortega10> nolimitsoya: no it doesn't, the internal firmware handles everything
[08:34] <rizo> its ubuntu desktop using the default config
[08:35] <ArrenLex> bradley: I've never found one.
[08:35] <rizo> i can't seem to find the sys req on the ubuntu site
[08:35] <akk> bradley: IBM has one that works on linux (viavoice, maybe?) but I don't know if it's free or OSS
[08:35] <nolimitsoya> rizo, then idd recommend 500mhz p3 at least, and 128mb ram
[08:35] <ArrenLex> rizo: there are no system reqs for ubuntu because it all depends on your configuration.
[08:35] <peernaute473> help you speak french
[08:35] <ortega10> nolimitsoya: and it doesn't need software on ubuntu either, it works as a standard pendrive... i mean it used to work  :(
[08:35] <ArrenLex> !fr > peernaute473
[08:35] <nolimitsoya> rizo, if you have got a low end machine id say go for a cli install and then apt-get fluxbox or xfce
[08:35] <bradley> ArrenLex, you have been looking around for one?
[08:35] <rizo> what about to use Compiz and XGL
[08:36] <roryy> you need 192MB RAM to install from the live cd, i believe
[08:36] <ArrenLex> bradley: Yes, a while back.
[08:36] <bradley> akk, thanks i'll take a look for that.
[08:36] <kitche> ortega10: it worked in dapper?
[08:36] <nolimitsoya> rizo, 256mb ram and gf2
[08:36] <Pupeno> Can Evolution generate Sieve filters ?
[08:36] <ArrenLex> rizo: you'll need a video card for which 3D drivers exist. That's all.
[08:36] <rizo> is gf2 required?
[08:36] <ArrenLex> rizo: I recommend nvidia.
[08:36] <peernaute473> moi c'est tealk
[08:36] <nolimitsoya> rizo, i think you need that shader version, yes
[08:36] <ArrenLex> !fr
[08:36] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:36] <kitche> rizo any 3d acceleration card will work but XGL is more for nvidia and ati really
[08:36] <ortega10> kitche: yes it worked, and right now it kinda works... i mean it works as a pendrive, but those files aren't seen by the firmware music player later
[08:36] <peernaute473>  un frechi dans le coin
[08:37] <rizo> how about onboard graphics
[08:37] <harmental> hi..does anybody knows where can i find a good version of pacman or ms pacman for linux???
[08:37] <rizo> would that not be good enough
[08:37] <nolimitsoya> rizo, though you can use any graphics card, as long as it has the right shader support
[08:37] <ArrenLex> rizo: An intel onboard card should be fine.
[08:37] <nolimitsoya> rizo, most of the modern onboard cards are by far more powerfull than a gf2 :)
[08:37] <roryy> harmental: i see a 'pacman' in the repos
[08:37] <harmental> yes...but its kinda lame...
[08:38] <roryy> heh
[08:38] <ortega10> kitche: nolimitsoya: it's like it made two different partitions.... the files i copy in ubuntu can't be seen from the internal music player; and the files i generate with the firmware (recordings) can't be seen in ubuntu
[08:38] <rizo> how can check if it is supported?
[08:38] <ArrenLex> rizo: what card do you have?
[08:38] <Morrissey> wich is better of beryl/compiz and 3ddesktop?? Im currently using the last one because I think it uses less memory, correct?
[08:38] <rizo> i have no idea which brand the onboard graphic card is
[08:38] <rizo> it cna't be intel coz im running on amd
[08:38] <nolimitsoya> ortega10, did you partition the device, or just write a filesystem?
[08:38] <kitche> ortega10: well it does have two partitions
[08:38] <njan> Morrissey, they do different things.
[08:38] <ArrenLex> rizo: an AMD laptop? Amazing. I've never heard of one of those.
[08:39] <Morrissey> njan, oh, whats the difference?
[08:39] <rizo> desktop
[08:39] <ArrenLex> rizo: regardless, if it's relatively modern, you should be fine.
[08:39] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[08:39] <ortega10> kitche: well it can't really have two partitions, the internal firmware is in "single disk mode" (it can have two, one encrypted)
[08:39] <ArrenLex> Anyway, you should be fine.
[08:39] <rizo> Great
[08:39] <nolimitsoya> ArrenLex, there are loads of amd desktops ;)
[08:39] <rizo> thanks
[08:39] <ortega10> nolimitsoya: no i didn't partition it, i just deleted the existing partition, and make a new one occupying all of the space
[08:39] <njan> Morrissey, 3ddesktop is a userspace app that takes screenshots of your virtual desktops and makes them do spinny things when you hit a hotkey. It's cool, but it's not groundbreaking.
[08:39] <rizo> now only if the 700mb download could be faster lol
[08:40] <njan> Morrissey, compiz/beryl are a fairly different paradigm in terms of how your desktop actually works.
[08:40] <nolimitsoya> rizo, use the netinstall cd
[08:40] <ArrenLex> nolimitsoya: Yes, I just didn't think there were many desktops with onboard graphics chips.
[08:40] <Morrissey> njan, so compiz will change my desktop behavoiur even more?
[08:40] <njan> Morrissey, unequivocally.
[08:40] <ArrenLex> nolimitsoya: ...ubuntu has netinstall? What witchery is this?! A link?
[08:40] <rizo> net install?
[08:40] <Morrissey> njan, how much system does it take?
[08:40] <nolimitsoya> ArrenLex, most have onboard graphics :)
[08:40] <ArrenLex> Weird.
[08:40] <rizo> whats that?
[08:41] <rizo> you mean the alternative
[08:41] <rizo> ??
[08:41] <ArrenLex> No, not the alternative.
[08:41] <nolimitsoya> ArrenLex, i think there is one... did i dream it? it was linked the day before, and i didnt check it out. ca 160mb :)
[08:41] <stalefries> net install is where you install over the net, ie, you have a very basic cd that grabs all the stuff off the net in real time
[08:41] <njan> Morrissey, that, I couldn't tell you.
[08:41] <rizo> rite but i still have to get the rest of the packages
[08:42] <rizo> using the netcd?
[08:42] <ArrenLex> nolimitsoya: I know debian has them, but I've never heard of an ubuntu netinstall...
[08:42] <nolimitsoya> ArrenLex, me neither, till yesterday. the link was to the ubuntu ftp. ill se if i can find anything :)
[08:42] <ulaas> how do i install official nvidia driver from nvidia.com without bothering my ubuntu box and not ruining resricted-modules stuff
[08:42] <fooshang> I am having problems exploring a music CD with Nautilus. It opens soundjuicer insted. I see others in the forum were having very similar issues. Anyone hear of a correction?
[08:43] <ortega10> ulaas: you don't   :)
[08:43] <ArrenLex> ulass: can you explain why you would want to?
[08:43] <Kingsqueak> I like the ubuntu way, where the install CD actually gives you a full working system so you can use it even if your net connection is unstable or unavailable
[08:43] <ulaas> ArrenLex: 9629?
[08:43] <ArrenLex> ulass:<PHONE_NUMBER>3? What random numbers are these?
[08:44] <ulaas> ArrenLex: nvidia driver..
[08:44] <ulaas> ArrenLex: latest and the greatest
[08:44] <ortega10> ulaas: if it ain't broken don't fix it
[08:44] <FirstStrike> how would i go about releasing my ip address and renewing it in dapper?
[08:44] <ortega10> ulaas: stick with the stable one in ubuntu unless you have a problem
[08:44] <Morrissey> njan, wich is better? Beryl or compiz?
[08:45] <ulaas> ortega10: texture_form_pixmap....
[08:45] <ulaas> form/from
[08:45] <njan> Morrissey, go look them up, figure out what they are :)
[08:45] <rcarr> Err, I'm trying to compile an older version of the ieee80211 subsystem
[08:45] <Kingsqueak> Beryl has tons more bells/whistles and has a GUI to set them up that is a bit better
[08:45] <ortega10> ulaas: well then there's an unofficial repository for 3d drivers
[08:45] <njan> Morrissey, http://www.beryl-project.org/
[08:45] <rcarr> that will work with my wireless card
[08:45] <ortega10> ulaas: but it didn't work for me
[08:45] <rcarr> and when I make it, it deletes it's source directory
[08:45] <rcarr> before it does anything
[08:46] <Doow> nolimitsoya: there's a thingie called instlinux that will install ubuntu purely from repos if that's what you're talking about
[08:46] <ulaas> ortega10: how come nvidia-kernel-common is a dependency of restricted-modules.
[08:46] <ulaas> ortega10: no sense
[08:46] <ortega10> ulaas: i don't know, i don't have that package and i do have restricted modules
[08:46] <Doow> nolimitsoya: ok, not completely, you have to download an 11 mb file
[08:47] <ortega10> ulaas: http://albertomilone.com/driver_edgy.html
[08:47] <nolimitsoya> Doow, might be... though im pretty sure it was an iso...
[08:47] <kitche> ulass: since the nvidia driver is restricted since it doesn't give the source code out
[08:47] <ortega10> ulaas: there's the repository
[08:47] <ulaas> ortega10: awright. thanks bro
[08:47] <ortega10> kitche: but he says restricted depends on nvidia
[08:47] <Doow> nolimitsoya: ok, not instlinux then
[08:47] <ortega10> kitche: that would be weird
[08:47] <Infamous_Flame> Hey. Anyone know how to set Realplayer as the default player for video files in firefox?
[08:47] <Hades90> Hallo
[08:47] <ortega10> ulaas: and if the repository fails, check this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:48] <kitche> ortega10: no it's not weird since nvidia is a restricted module
[08:48] <nolimitsoya> nope, cant find it. perhaps i was dreaming :/
[08:48] <ortega10> kitche: it's weird because i don't need to have the nvidia module just because i have the restricted modules
[08:48] <Doow> nolimitsoya: what did you need it for?
[08:48] <nolimitsoya> Doow, i didnt :)
[08:49] <kitche> ortega10: nvidia depends on restricted modules restricted modules don't depend on nvidia
[08:49] <Doow> nolimitsoya: =P
[08:49] <ortega10> kitche: well he said otherwise, i was commenting on that
[08:49] <witless> where is the IGNORE menu option in xchat??
[08:49] <nolimitsoya> witless, you could just use /ingore <username>
[08:49] <nolimitsoya> *ignore
[08:50] <witless> nolimitsoya:  the version i was using before would have an "ignore" option when you right-clicked on a nick
[08:50] <roryy> kitche: no, you had it right first time: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic depends on nvidia-kernel-common
[08:50] <Doow> is there an easy way of saving all open files in emacs? (I assume there's a way, but I want an easy one =)
[08:51] <tonyb2006> whats the thing that ubuntu has thats like an OSD for volume control keys on the keyboard or a laptop called?
[08:52] <roryy> Doow: it looks like C-u C-x C-c should do that
[08:52] <Kingsqueak> tonyb2006: there's an xmms osd plugin
[08:52] <roryy> Doow: C-h k C-x C-c for more info
[08:52] <tonyb2006> the thing that comes w/ ubuntu
[08:52] <PF|Linux> What's the terminal command to delete a directory?
[08:52] <Doow> roryy: thanks
[08:52] <Silmethule> rm -r directory
[08:52] <Kingsqueak> PF|Linux: rm -rf /dir
[08:53] <roryy> PF|Linux: rm with the -r option. be careful ;)
[08:53] <ortega10> i have a usb pendrive / mp3 player, and if i format it i don't see those files in the internal player / browser, but if i delete the partition and don't format it, i only see one partition of 400 mb (it has 2000 total)... any ideas?
[08:53] <PF|Linux> k
[08:54] <d0uglas> Hi. Running gnome-terminal in kde. How can I specify which browser gnome-terminal uses when launching urls? It's not paying attention to what i have set in the kontrol panel or whatever
[08:54] <tonyb2006> is it notification-daemon
[08:54] <PF|Linux> I installed the eggdrop from the ubuntu repository. Anyone know how I get to it?
[08:55] <Kingsqueak> tonyb2006: maybe gnome-osd ?
[08:55] <tonyb2006> maybe
[08:55] <Doow> roryy: that just exited emacs which I should've figure with the C-x C-c part
[08:55] <kitche> PF|Linux: you mean the configuration files?
[08:55] <Kingsqueak> or xosd-bin
[08:56] <PF|Linux> kitche: Yeah, I need to get it connected
[08:56] <roryy> Doow: ah, blast, didn't read your message carefully enough
[08:56] <roryy> Doow: my apologies
[08:56] <[Xtogu] > hi
[08:56] <kitche> PF|Linux the configuration files should be in /etc/eggdrop
[08:56] <Doow> roryy: np, I hade everything save before I tried it anyway =)
[08:56] <nolimitsoya> Doow, ArrenLex, this might be it: http://mirrors.xmission.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso :)
[08:56] <[Xtogu] > hi
[08:56] <roryy> Doow: C-u C-x s
[08:57] <Doow> roryy: that looks more likely =)
[08:57] <JoyFM> hi
[08:57] <R9KMC> hi everybody
[08:57] <JoyFM> which version of parted is used in 6.10 alternative?
[08:57] <St_MPA3b> !
[08:58] <St_MPA3b> !irc
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[08:58] <roryy> JoyFM: not sure about on the alternative cd, but on my installed 6.10 I have version 1.7.1
[08:58] <ortega10> i have a usb pendrive / mp3 player, and if i format it i don't see those files in the internal player / browser, but if i delete the partition and don't format it, i only see one partition of 400 mb (it has 2000 total)... any ideas ?
[08:58] <roll> hi, can sombody tell me if all the ini files inside php.d folder aerw loaded automatically ??
[08:58] <R9KMC> I want just to know if it's possible to install Ubuntu Version 5.10 and update it to the last version?
[08:58] <PF|Linux> kitche: not there
[08:58] <roll>  hi, can sombody tell me if all the ini files inside php.d folder aerw loaded automatically ??
[08:59] <JoyFM> so it is maybe affected by this bug<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[08:59] <PF|Linux> kitche: No "eggdrop" in /etc
[08:59] <roryy> R9KMC: you'll need to upgrade to 6.06 first, and then upgrade to 6.10 (the latest)
[08:59] <Clin1> Has any one ever installed Bionic? im stumped
[08:59] <Kingsqueak> R9KMC: it would be cleaner to just install the latest
[08:59] <R9KMC> roryy: So i can update to 6.06 from ubuntu 5.10?
[08:59] <kitche> PF|Linux: do a search for eggdrop by doing sudo updatedb && locate eggdrop
[08:59] <roryy> R9KMC: yip
[08:59] <roll>  hi, can sombody tell me if all the ini files inside php.d folder aerw loaded automatically ??
[08:59] <R9KMC> :)
[09:00] <roryy> !upgrade | R9KMC
[09:00] <ubotu> R9KMC: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:00] <unearth> roryy ever installed/used qt?
[09:00] <anton__> erm. you could try an lsof, roll
[09:00] <Kingsqueak> roll: I would doubt it, look at your php.ini to check or run phpinfo();
[09:00] <roryy> unearth: a good while back
[09:01] <Stephenishere> damnit
[09:01] <Stephenishere> i ahve to get ready for work :/
[09:01] <roll> ok, but it is possible ?
[09:01] <Kingsqueak> roll: if you enable them, yes
[09:01] <roll> I seee.
[09:01] <Kingsqueak> roll: I doubt the stock php.ini would do that, it's not a great idea unless you need them all
[09:01] <roll> yes actually it is enabled.
[09:02] <Clin1> How do i use .sh files...
[09:02] <roll> becvause I have a php.d, and seems that all the modules like mysql are loaded from that fo9lder
[09:02] <Kingsqueak> Clin1: chmod 755 ./file ; ./file
[09:02] <roll> so, i need to knowe if simply by adding a new .dll file on thtat folder
[09:02] <roll> will be loaded by php
[09:02] <Kingsqueak> Clin1: or just   sh ./file
[09:03] <abo> Clin1, usually from a shell (consol) . and then see what Kingsqueak said ;)
[09:03] <Linuturk> I need a forum moderator please
[09:03] <Clin1> thank you
[09:03] <jrib> Linuturk: #ubuntuforums maybe
[09:03] <yondaime> whenever i boot into install mode my mouse and keyboard gets stuck .. what could be the problem ?
[09:03] <Kingsqueak> roll: you will have to restart apache, and depending on your php.ini and the module it may or may not, you may need to add a new entry to php.ini to load it
[09:04] <grimboy> Why are there so many vim packages? Should I just install full?
[09:04] <Kingsqueak> grimboy: because it's pretty large and some people want leaner options, full is what I do
[09:04] <R9KMC> roryy: I read "Upgrading with the Update Manager application, use ' gksudo "update-manager"' " So when i use this command in terminal and it will update to 6.06 automaticaly?
[09:04] <Clin1> I still have no ideaa what to do    sh FILE gaave me this now run /home/admin/BOINC/run_client to run the client and /home/admin/BOINC/run_manager to run the GUI
[09:05] <roryy> R9KMC: that's the idea
[09:05] <grimboy> Kingsqueak, Fair enough, should I only have full installed then and remove the others? (I got greedy)
[09:05] <Hoxxin> i made a little mistake while installing ubuntu. i had the integrated graphic card activated in the bios, now i tried to change to the other in the bios but ubuntu wont start after that. what shall i do?
[09:05] <kitche> Clin1: it tells you how to run the program
[09:05] <jrib> grimboy: yeah, unless you want stuff like gtk gui or python scripting support
[09:05] <Kingsqueak> Clin1: it's telling you what to do...it installed and those are your two options
[09:05] <R9KMC> thanks :)
[09:05] <[Nicke] > is there any way to make ubuntu load like saa7134-oss instead of saa7134-alsa?
[09:05] <Clin1> boy am i a genious
[09:05] <Kingsqueak> grimboy: dunno, I find full useful, unless you are severely stretched on disk space I would just leave it
[09:05] <roll> where can I see
[09:05] <grimboy> jrib, But I do. I just don't want 8 different ways of opening vim
[09:05] <jrib> grimboy: hmm my mistake, full includes that stuff
[09:05] <yondaime> whenever i boot into install mode my mouse and keyboard gets stuck .. what could be the problem ?
[09:05] <Clin1> THANK YOU SO MUCH
[09:05] <Clin1> YAY
[09:05] <roll> where the .so modules are stored ???
[09:06] <roll> bin ?
[09:06] <Neftalena> hi everyone!!!
[09:06] <kitche> roll: they are stored in /lib probably
[09:06] <Kingsqueak> grimboy: well you probably have a GUI, as in 'gvim' and also vim, so it's no big deal, either will work
[09:06] <Doow> roll: /lib or /usr/lib usually
[09:06] <Neftalena> hola
[09:06] <Doow> Neftalena: hi
[09:06] <Neftalena> somebody can help me
[09:06] <R9KMC> other thing: my sister has got a laptop toshiba RAM:256Mo Intel centrino 1.4Go, will this be enaugh to install ubuntu?
[09:07] <Doow> !ask | Neftalena
[09:07] <ubotu> Neftalena: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:07] <Neftalena> :P thanx
[09:07] <grimboy> Kingsqueak, Ok, I'll just leave it as it is. You know what they say about stuff that works.
[09:07] <Doow> Neftalena: =)
[09:07] <Kingsqueak> R9KMC: should be, though xubuntu would be what I'd recommend, lighter than gnome for 256MB of RAM
[09:07] <Neftalena> hi Doow
[09:07] <Neftalena> i'm a new user of linux
[09:08] <yondaime> hello
[09:08] <roll> how can I so a search on the entire machine from the shell ??
[09:08] <Zparks> Hello everyone, I am quite new to Ubuntu and I have a question about the alternate install cd, I really searched a lot but couldn't find it... Although the installer on the alternate cd is textbased, does it still install a graphical operating system? I'm sorry if this is a really frequently asked question, but I couln't find it anywhere :S
[09:08] <kasterfett> hi
[09:08] <ashika> Hi
[09:08] <kitche> Zparks: yes
[09:09] <ashika> Zparks: Yes it contains the full ubuntu. Its for people whos computer wont display the GUI properly
[09:09] <roll> need to search for mysql.so
[09:09] <Doow> Neftalena: welcome, what's your problem?
[09:09] <ashika> Zparks: For example my MAC wont do step 5 on the normal so alternate is needed.
[09:09] <bingnet922> Hi channel, my /etc/cron.* jobs run as expected, but new entries to /etc/crontab (system crontab, I think) do not run. I created the cron jobs via kcron and checked syntax in /etc/crontab. My new jobs should run as root and the command given has no errors when copied to the prompt manually. What am I missing? I've never set up a crontab before.
[09:09] <yondaime> my keyboard and mouse doesn't work .. they are locked up .. when i boot into ubuntu install .. does anybody have a clue ?
[09:09] <Neftalena> i don't know how i can run a C program in the console
[09:09] <jrib> grimboy: I guess you are talking about having /usr/bin/vim.tiny /usr/bin/vim.python /usr/bin/vim.full  etc?  You just update-alternatives --config vim  and use the one you want
[09:09] <vivabenfica> hi all
[09:09] <ashika> yondaime:  Does it work in another OS?
[09:09] <R9KMC> Kingsqueak: if she uses xubuntu, can she use other software such as openoffice, firefox, update manager, music player...?
[09:09] <ashika> yondaime: And is the speaker/mouse wireless
[09:09] <yondaime> yes.. windows perfect.. fedora perfect
[09:09] <Doow> Neftalena: first you have to compile and link it, have you done that?
[09:10] <roll> does anybody knows where the mysql.so for php is located ???
[09:10] <ashika> yondaime: keyboard/mouse*
[09:10] <Neftalena> no coz i don't know how
[09:10] <yondaime> ashika : didn't check speaker..
[09:10] <traxxed> hello
[09:10] <Kingsqueak> R9KMC: absolutely, it uses xfce4 as the desktop, quite a bit leaner and faster on an older machine, leaving more room for apps to run
[09:10] <Zparks> Thanks kitche and ashika, so when the installation is finished, you have an OS with GNOME desktop?
[09:10] <Hoxxin> Can anyone help me what to do with this problem: i installed ubuntu and found out i used the integrated graphic card as default, i changed graphic card in bios but now ubuntu wont start, i also tried to reinstall but it gives error messages, what shall i do??
[09:10] <ashika> yondaime: I meant keyboard type
[09:10] <kitche> roll you can do sudo updatedb && locate mysql.so to find it
[09:10] <SurfnKid> can you play pls on xmms
[09:10] <Doow> Neftalena: are you learning to program or just trying to run someone elses prog?
[09:10] <Kingsqueak> R9KMC: it would even run gnome, but xubuntu would be faster running
[09:10] <kitche> Zparks yes if you are using the ubuntu vf
[09:10] <grimboy> jrib, Oh right, thanks.
[09:10] <Neftalena> my teacher told me that i can do this... in the console :::: gcc + the name of my program + -o
[09:10] <ashika> Zparks: Yes. You an add KDE if you want but if you want KDE get Kubuntu.
[09:11] <Zparks> What do you mean by ubuntu vf, kithce?
[09:11] <Neftalena> i'm a student of informatiC in Mexico
[09:11] <ashika> yondaime: If they're wireless make sure to install drivers on ubuntu
[09:11] <SurfnKid> Neftalena, whats informatiC?
[09:11] <jrib> Neftalena: have you installed build-essential?
[09:11] <yondaime> ashika : they are not wireless.. they are regular pci stuff..
[09:11] <roll> great
[09:11] <R9KMC> Kingsqueak: Installing other debian software is also possible?!!
[09:11] <Doow> Neftalena: ok, your question is probably more suited for ##c
[09:11] <Neftalena> nop
[09:11] <vivabenfica> i am succesfully dual-booting ubuntu and xp, and just added mandriva for $hits and giggles. i told it to install bootloader on boot partition, but of course now when i boot i only see the bootloader ubuntu created with ubuntu and xp options. any idea how to see all 3 OS in ubuntu bootloader?
[09:11] <ashika> Neftalena: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware has information on compiling. Be sure to have proper libraries
[09:11] <Neftalena> yeah
[09:11] <kasterfett> i've got one problem with a bash script
[09:11] <jrib> Neftalena: you should install that package so that you can compile with gcc
[09:11] <kasterfett> anyone can help me?
[09:12] <Neftalena> ohhh thanx ashika
[09:12] <ashika> yondaime: Do they require special drivers
[09:12] <yondaime> ashika : no they are just plain old keyboard and mouse ..
[09:12] <Kingsqueak> R9KMC: absolutely, the only difference is just the default look of the desktop
[09:12] <ashika> Neftalena: What are you trying to compile. Is it a XSomething software? KDE software? IF so you need x-dev and kde-dev from Synaptec. Besure to get the make software package and gcc aswell.
[09:12] <yondaime> it's an acer power S series computer..
[09:12] <Kingsqueak> R9KMC: xfce4 is quite easy to use too, just less resource intensive than full on gnome
[09:12] <kasterfett> i va an IF -ELSE sentence
[09:13] <kasterfett> i've
[09:13] <Neftalena> ok look
[09:13] <ashika> yondaime: Do you have mouse/keyboard name/model
[09:13] <jrib> kasterfett: you may want to consider #bash, but go ahead and pastebin your code
[09:13] <kasterfett> and work perfectly, but if i insert a comment
[09:13] <Zparks> Sorry kitche, what did you mean with "ubuntu vf"?
[09:13] <ashika> jrib: how do you pastebin
[09:13] <kasterfett> then the code doesn'y works
[09:13] <scooter> hi
[09:13] <R9KMC> Kingsqueak: thank you very very much :)
[09:13] <Doow> !pastebin | ashika
[09:13] <ubotu> ashika: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:14] <Kingsqueak> R9KMC:  you could try the 'regular' install, if it's too slow, just apt-get install xfce4 and all the other xfce4* files and switch it over
[09:14] <scooter> can ubuntu linux run on an 800 mHz amc prossesor
[09:14] <kasterfett> and if i delete that comment, the code continues without working
[09:14] <yondaime> ashika : they are not even usb .. just regular stuff.. i'm sure this is a pci problem
[09:14] <Kingsqueak> R9KMC: at the initial sign-on you can switch sessions once it's installed to try them both
[09:14] <Hoxxin> Can anyone help me what to do with this problem: i installed ubuntu and found out i used the integrated graphic card as default, i changed graphic card in bios but now ubuntu wont start, i also tried to reinstall but it gives error messages, what shall i do??
[09:14] <Zparks> well, i'll figure it out. Thanks for your help!
[09:14] <Neftalena> my teacher give me a program who  uses the shared memory
[09:15] <Kingsqueak> scooter: sure it should work just fine
[09:15] <R9KMC> Kingsqueak: ok I will try it
[09:15] <ashika> yondaime: Do you have model/name of your devices.
[09:15] <ashika> scooter: do you mean amd?
[09:15] <Kingsqueak> scooter: it's more a RAM question than anything, with full gnome it will be happiest with 512MB but will run fine with less
[09:15] <scooter> yea
[09:15] <jrib> Neftalena: ok, are you able to compile it now?
[09:15] <snowshoefox> !make-kpkg
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about make-kpkg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <TheGateKeeper> Hoxxin, will a livecd boot up?
[09:15] <snowshoefox> what pakcage is make-kpkg in?
[09:15] <Hoxxin> no
[09:15] <Hoxxin> TheGateKeeper no
[09:16] <yondaime> ashika : logitech - M-S69 mouse / fujitsu keyboard ..
[09:16] <scooter> my husband is getting ready to switch to linux on his pc and has been told that his prossessor wouldnt run the program properly
[09:16] <Hoxxin> TheGateKeeper when i start with the cd it comes up the screen where i can choose "install or start" "safe mode" etc
[09:16] <Neftalena> yes
[09:16] <Kingsqueak> scooter: it should be fine, just slower than a new machine is all, it may be faster with linux than Win was
[09:16] <jrib> scooter: try a live cd and find out, that would be the easiest way
[09:16] <Spee_Der> !moo
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <snowshoefox> yea it'll be faster with Linux
[09:17] <snowshoefox> in some parts
[09:17] <Kingsqueak> scooter: I just told someone else, the 'xubuntu' version is better for older machines
[09:17] <scooter> ok thanks
[09:17] <Hoxxin> TheGateKeeper is there a way to change the default graphic card in ubuntu? change-> reboot?
[09:17] <jrib> scooter: the live cd is the same as the "desktop cd" by the way
[09:17] <ashika> yondaime: You believe it to be your Motherboard's problem?
[09:17] <Zambezi> Is it possible to burn mds+mdf in Ubuntu? It's Alcohol 120%. mds2iso doesn't work. No files are created.
[09:17] <Kingsqueak> scooter: xubuntu just runs a different and more efficient desktop so it is easier on the machine
[09:17] <scooter> ok thanks so much i will get him to try it
[09:17] <TheGateKeeper> Hoxxin, if a livecd won't boot up correctly & you have modified the bios then I guess that is where the problem lies
[09:17] <wladston> anyone in here uses aptana ??? i'm having problems, it refuses to open php files!!!
[09:18] <yondaime> ashika : but it's a very common motherboard .. i'm sure there must've been somebody else with this problem.. it's a branded series of computer ( AcerPower S series )
[09:18] <scooter> thanks for the information bye bye
[09:18] <poco> hi
[09:18] <Neftalena> jrib: yes
[09:18] <traxxed> Is there a good site to get the .img of xubuntu?
[09:18] <barryd> I have just created 2 networks, on seperate subnets, router on <IP_ADDRESS>, through to my wifi/laptop, then out to my client computer over eth0 on subnet <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:18] <jrib> Neftalena: k, great
[09:19] <Neftalena> thanx jrib
[09:19] <kitche> traxxed: from xubuntu site pick a mirror and you will get .iso
[09:19] <Hoxxin> TheGateKeeper: ill get it to work if i switch back to the integr. graph. card, just wondering how i could change to the other card and reinstall :) thats the problem
[09:19] <traxxed> thanks kitche
[09:20] <poco> my ethernet card is not recognized after an (failed) update.... got nothing on lspci and "illegal vendor id unknown device" with lspci (the card is recognized with old live cd). my last upgrade was not successful btw
[09:20] <wladston> guys : there is noone on the #aptana channel :(
[09:20] <Neftalena> ok so... maybe u can explain me ... all
[09:20] <ashika> yondaime: And this works on Fedora? Try booting into recovery mode and see if you can type anything please.
[09:20] <jrib> Neftalena: explain what?
[09:20] <wladston> ok, if anyone, please /msg me ...
[09:20] <yondaime> ashika : ok .. thanks
[09:20] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows how to you can get the borders of metacity to glow? I'm kinda stuck googlin :
[09:21] <Neftalena> i just know how can a i do a program buuuuuuuut i don't know how i make to compile
[09:21] <poco> got it :p
[09:21] <ashika> yondaime: Sorry but thats all I can suggest right now. If you can type it means proper drivers aren't being loaded in ubuntu or your installation is malformed. Again sorry but I can't do much
[09:21] <Kingsqueak> Neftalena:   gcc -o foo foo.c  will make 'foo' out of foo.c if it can compile
[09:21] <jrib> Neftalena: gcc my_file.c -o my_file      the -o lets you give the output a name.  Then you run the command with:   ./my_file
[09:21] <TheGateKeeper> Hoxxin, if you can get a livecd to boot up correctly, you can compare /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the one on your hdd and make the appropriate changes, but backup the one on your hdd before altering it
[09:21] <ashika> yondaime: If it works then try reinstalling. If it doesn't I'm sorry thats all I can do
[09:22] <R9KMC> Kingsqueak: do you know any bittorrent link to download xubuntu? thanks
[09:22] <max_> file:///home/max/Desktop/10938-Squirrel.tar.gz
[09:22] <max_> file:///home/max/Desktop/13309-splash manga.tar.gz
[09:22] <max_> file:///home/max/Desktop/13316-BeachGirls-1.0a.tar.bz2
[09:22] <max_> file:///home/max/Desktop/24643-Eva.tar.gz
[09:22] <jrib> max_: stop please
[09:22] <max_> file:///home/max/Desktop/5095-ryoko-splash.tar.gz
[09:22] <TheGateKeeper> !fixres > Hoxxin
[09:22] <Neftalena> oook let me check
[09:22] <max_> file:///home/max/Desktop/5554-phylinux.tgz
[09:22] <yondaime> ashika : thanks for the help .. i appreciate it..
[09:22] <max_> file:///home/max/Desktop/7621-Love-Hina-Splash.tar.gz
[09:22] <max_> file:///home/max/Desktop/AnimeMemories_1_2.tar.gz
[09:22] <max_> oops
[09:22] <max_> sorry
[09:22] <TheGateKeeper> Hoxxin, read the ubotu pm too
[09:23] <Hoxxin> TheGateKeeper ok tnx
[09:23] <ashika> yondaime: Sorry yondaime. I know it isn't much but you dont have to be mean about it.
[09:23] <Kingsqueak> R9KMC: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.10/release/
[09:23] <TheGateKeeper> Hoxxin, good luck :-)
[09:23] <Hoxxin> TheGateKeeper tnx i need it :)
[09:23] <Kingsqueak> R9KMC: scroll down and there are .torrent files
[09:23] <yondaime> ashika : was i mean to u ? then i'm really sorry .. seriously
[09:23] <R9KMC> thank you
[09:23] <ashika> max: You were being sarcastic with the ..
[09:23] <dromer> hmm, lately all flash-video/audio seems to be out of sink in firefox
[09:23] <yondaime> ashika : i didn't mean to..
[09:23] <ashika> yondaime: you were being sarcastic with the ..
[09:24] <XyZ> hey, can you tell me one thing. I have a big mirror of linux sources in my local network, how can i learn my kubuntu use this mirror as repository for apt-get?
[09:24] <ashika> yondaime: thats \kind of cruel
[09:24] <yondaime> ashika : i wasn't sarcastic.. i really meant it..
[09:24] <roryy> ashika: please just drop it
[09:24] <kitche> XyZ: edit source.list to point to your mirror
[09:24] <ashika> yondaime: Oh. So if you try it let me know
[09:24] <ashika> roryy: Sorry we dropped it.
[09:24] <ashika> roryy: Rorry do you know how I can change the order of OS's in GRUB
[09:25] <Murrlin> afternoon.
[09:25] <XyZ> kitche, yes i know it, but i don't know which options i'm must to use
[09:25] <Neftalena> :S appears a message of which the directory does not exist
[09:25] <Neftalena> so i'm doing something wrong
[09:25] <roryy> ashika: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:25] <blue-frog> if /dev/hdb has not been created during boot, is there a way for me to create it via command line while running edgy?
[09:25] <roryy> ashika: but, be careful!
[09:25] <Murrlin> my network connection settings have become broke.
[09:25] <Murrlin> networks are 'disabled' upon start up. I have to manually activate them
[09:25] <ashika> roryy: Is there a safer way to autoboot windows unless you press something?
[09:25] <jrib> Neftalena: join me in #ubuntu-classroom and I will help you step by step if you want
[09:25] <kitche> XyZ: well that you would probably have to do some searching or ask your admin about it
[09:25] <roryy> ashika: yes, that is fairly easy
[09:26] <Murrlin> and, if I try to run the configurer again, it freezes, with no further actions
[09:26] <ashika> roryy: How so?
[09:26] <Murrlin> how can I fix this?
[09:26] <roryy> ashika: change the 'default 0' in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:26] <sunganes> hello. I now have Ubuntu server (drapper drake version) and ubuntu-desktop installed. So far things have been a breeze and I am starting to love ubuntu. I now need to install JAVA, Eclipse, JBOSS, Hibernate, Axis. are there packages for these already? what is the best way to go about doing this.
[09:26] <Morrissey> hi, how can I filter out wich packages installed takes up most of my space?? is there a way?
[09:26] <ashika> roryy: Change it to the number of the default OS to boot?
[09:26] <XyZ> kitche, i think i'm must to do something like list of all pakages on mirror
[09:26] <roryy> ashika: indeed
[09:26] <Neftalena> ok thanx jason
[09:26] <ashika> roryy: Thankyou
[09:26] <vnese> !ruby
[09:26] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[09:27] <ashika> roryy: Do you happen to know where xXaNaXx went?
[09:27] <Kingsqueak> sunganes: there are packages of some of those yeah, have you ever installed them manually before?
[09:27] <vnese> !rubyonrails
[09:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rubyonrails - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:27] <roryy> ashika: not a clue, sorry
[09:27] <vnese> !rails
[09:27] <starchaser> sunganes -> check ubuntuguide.org
[09:27] <hithere2> hello
[09:27] <sunganes> no never installed them manuall b4. first time
[09:27] <ubotu> rails: MVC ruby based framework geared for web application development. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.6-1 (edgy), package size 1734 kB, installed size 12920 kB
[09:27] <deema> !ror
[09:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ror - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:27] <ashika> roryy: How come in my grub Ubuntu is listed twice as normal and twice as recovery
[09:28] <rcarr> multiple kernels?
[09:28] <Kingsqueak> sunganes: k, see what starchaser just told you then
[09:28] <hithere2> anyone here?
[09:28] <jatt> no
[09:28] <sunganes> starchaser: k thanks will start there
[09:28] <Luke> My avahi daemon does not start even when I tell it to via the services window. how do I get avahi to start?
[09:28] <Murrlin> ok correction, the congigurer pauses a long time before displaying itself fully, other than that, the rest of the stuff still applies.
[09:28] <ashika> rcarr: if that was to me no they're all same kernel numbers
[09:28] <Murrlin> what can I do?
[09:28] <roryy> ashika: i'm guessing one of the set is commented out -- that's the 'AUTOMAGIC' kernels list
[09:28] <ashika> roryy: So when counting for default would I include those?
[09:28] <roryy> ashika: no
[09:28] <hithere2> is there any IRc client for Ubuntu other than xchat that is a GUI based IRC client?
[09:28] <vivabenfica> hi. trying to get ubuntu, xp, mandriva triple boot going. please see http://pastebin.ulteo.us/236. will what i have there work?
[09:29] <vivabenfica> hithere2: gaim
[09:29] <ashika> roryy: So by default windows is 3 then? Since the two ubuntu
[09:29] <Murrlin> hithere2: like chatzilla? part of firefox
[09:29] <roryy> ashika: only uncommented ones; i'd guess any 'title' entry without any '#' in front, but I'm not 100% sure
[09:29] <Murrlin> oh yeah and gaim ^_^
[09:29] <rcarr> Ashika: Odd, have you done any tweaking to the initramfs, like install some new graphical bootsplash or  something
[09:29] <hithere2> Murrlin chatzilla?
[09:29] <rcarr> Ashika: Beyond that, no ideas
[09:29] <roryy> ashika: 1) it counts from 0, and 2) i'm not sure if the 'Divider' counts as an entry
[09:29] <starchaser> murrlin -> you tried doing  "ifdown eth0"  and then "ifup eth0" ?
[09:29] <Kingsqueak> hithere2: apt-cache search IRC | grep client
[09:29] <ashika> rcarr: No, none tweaking whatsoever
[09:29] <roryy> ashika: but it should be either 2 or 3
[09:29] <bingnet922> Hi channel, my /etc/cron.* jobs run as expected, but new entries to /etc/crontab (system crontab, I think) do not run. I created the cron jobs via kcron and checked syntax in /etc/crontab. My new jobs should run as root and the command given has no errors when copied to the prompt manually. What am I missing? I've never set up a crontab before.
[09:29] <starchaser> or maybe just "ifconfig"
[09:30] <hithere2> exit
[09:30] <Murrlin> starchaser: hrmm.
[09:30] <starchaser> bignet922 ->  su as root.  and then do crontab -e   - see if your cron entries are there.
[09:30] <kitche> !root
[09:30] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:31] <rcarr> !ubotu
[09:31] <fbc> When I come out of standby or suspend my wireless stops working. Can somone give the command to restart the wireless netwroking service?
[09:31] <ashika> roryy: Doesn't recovery count as an os
[09:31] <starchaser> oh sorry.  i meant  just  "sudo crontab -e"
[09:32] <roryy> ashika: yeah, so 0 for normal ubuntu, 1 for recovery, 2 for the separator (possibly) and 3 for windows
[09:32] <Murrlin> ifup 'couldnt read /etc/network/interfaces'
[09:32] <Murrlin> but I can less it just fine
[09:32] <ashika> roryy: But ubuntu and recovery are listed like this: ubuntu, recovery, ubuntu, seperator, windows
[09:32] <Kingsqueak> Murrlin: you ran ifup via sudo, as root right?
[09:32] <roryy> ashika: hrm. do you see three ubuntu entries when you boot up?
[09:33] <ashika> roryy: Automagic isn't uncommented
[09:33] <starchaser> murrlin ->  tried it using "sudo" , and in "sudo ifdown eth0"     and then "sudo ifup eth0"?
[09:33] <Murrlin> yes
[09:33] <ashika> roryy: I see 2 normal 2 recovery
[09:33] <Murrlin> let me see
[09:33] <nuts`> hum guys, is there a faster viewer utility for PDFs then Acrobat Reader?
[09:33] <Kingsqueak> Murrlin: did you change that file or something?
[09:33] <Murrlin> bbs
[09:33] <abo> nuts`, try xpdf
[09:33] <starchaser> fbc - > if your wireless is on eth1 , just do a "sudo ifdown eth1", "sudo ifup eth1"
[09:33] <roryy> ah, in that case *counts* windows is 4 or 5
[09:33] <ashika> roryy: It would be so much easier if it said in the list which number windows was :/
[09:33] <Murrlin> kings: nothhing but having to reactivate network every startup
[09:34] <starchaser> failing that do a "ifconfig" to figure out what your wireless card is on.
[09:34] <roryy> ashika: well, you can just count there
[09:34] <Murrlin> during startup, I get 'failed' on both network lines
[09:34] <Murrlin> starting basic networking, and um... the other one
[09:34] <starchaser> nuts -> xpdf
[09:34] <ashika> roryy: We forgot to include memtest xD so its 5 or 6
[09:34] <roryy> ashika: ah, right, sorry
[09:34] <roryy> ashika: anyway, you've got the idea
[09:35] <killown> how I set gdm as default ?
[09:35] <killown> how I set gdm as default login manager?  sorry! for repeat
[09:36] <rcarr> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[09:36] <starchaser> murrlin -> have a look at /etc/network/interfaces
[09:36] <rcarr> should give you the option to set it as default
[09:36] <killown> thanks rcarr
[09:36] <nuts`> starchaser: thks^
[09:36] <Murrlin> starkruzr: alright, what should I check for?
[09:36] <ashika> roryy:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32594/ as you can see they are exact duplicates. So should I remove the duplicates or can that cause no boot.
[09:36] <lifepositive> hi
[09:36] <Murrlin> perhaps... I dont know how the permissions could've gotten borked
[09:36] <lifepositive> i removed a program and it said it also removed ubuntu-desktop.  What exactly is ubuntu-desktop used for?
[09:37] <ashika> roryy: Ah I discovered the difference! first set is kernel: 27 second set is .26
[09:37] <ashika> roryy: So should I remove second set or leave it be?
[09:37] <Greyscale> <E[m] ess> <nekomata> [XX]  kdesu desu desu desu desu desu~
[09:37] <Greyscale> <E[m] ess> <nekomata> [XX]  </sekibuntu>
[09:37] <Vuen_> hey guys, i set up my computer to use the BSOD screensaver, but the fonts are wrong on most of the BSODs. it's not very convincing.
[09:37] <Vuen_> anyone know how i can set up the proper fonts?
[09:37] <roryy> ashika: leave it
[09:38] <roryy> ashika: if you uninstall the older kernel it should automatically be removed
[09:38] <Greyscale> Vuen_, hahaha, such effort just to emulate what we escape.
[09:38] <starchaser> murrlin ->  yeah - check the permissions.
[09:38] <ashika> roryy: Sorry to sound like an idiot but from where?
[09:38] <starchaser> mine are "drwxr-xr-x"
[09:38] <roryy> ashika: as in, 'sudo aptitude remove linux-2.6.15-26-386'
[09:38] <Murrlin> root r/w, group r, other r
[09:38] <roryy> ashika: or something similar
[09:39] <gsonic> hi
[09:39] <ashika> roryy: No gui way?
[09:39] <roryy> ashika: use synaptic, and remove that package
[09:39] <gsonic> im trying to flood a gmail account of spam but suscribing to newsletters isnt fast enough
[09:39] <Murrlin> and the d is what?
[09:39] <gsonic> anyone knows a more efficient way?
[09:39] <roryy> ashika: or, just leave it.
[09:39] <starchaser> murrlin -> sounds fine.   maybe post your query on the ubuntu forums. you'll need to post any output from dmesg that might be useful.
[09:39] <starchaser> and the contents of your "interfaces" file.
[09:39] <jatt> gsonic: why do you want such thing?
[09:39] <fbc> starchaser:  thanks I'll try that..
[09:40] <starchaser> d -> directory.
[09:40] <gsonic> jatt: for experimentation
[09:40] <jatt> of what
[09:40] <Murrlin> hrm
[09:40] <smoenux> !samba
[09:40] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:40] <gsonic> i noticed gmail does not permit infinite fowarding, i.e account 1>>fwd>>acocunt2>>fwd>>account 1
[09:41] <agent> using debootstrap, i get error "FATAL: kernel too old" when trying to  "chroot /ubuntu mount -t proc proc /proc" - how to get around this problem when installing a new kernel on host pc is out of the question?
[09:41] <ashika> roryy: Solver thankyou
[09:41] <gsonic> anyone knows of a internet utility to flood emails or something like that
[09:41] <starchaser> ubotu -> you can also just do "Places -> Network servers" in Gnome.  works for me.
[09:42] <gsonic> or putting an email somewhere where it'd be easilly be flood
[09:42] <roryy> ashika: np
[09:42] <ashika> gsonic: I haven't been here long but I don't think thats allowed
[09:42] <Murrlin> I'm not sure how to set the d, starchaser
[09:42] <Murrlin> I've got -rwxr-xr-x
[09:43] <ashika> roryy: Is that allowed talking of flooders and or hacking tools?
[09:43] <agent> gsonic: what exactly do you want? to flood others or to be flooded yourself?
[09:43] <starchaser> murrlin ->  ah.
[09:43] <gsonic> agent: to flood a fake gmail account i created
[09:43] <gsonic><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:43] <roryy> ashika: probably not. just ignore it
[09:43] <ashika> roryy: In Add/Remove when it says show commercial programs does it mean programs you have to pay for or are trials?
[09:44] <roll> i have downladed a rpm file
[09:44] <agent> gsonic: why and from what?
[09:44] <mike_> need help with kopete in gnome please, sound wont work
[09:44] <roryy> ashika: I think it means programs like Opera, which are (as I understand) completely closed source
[09:44] <roll> how can I inSTALL IT ?
[09:44] <roll> this rpm is an extension for php
[09:44] <gsonic> from anything that'll create massive amounts of mail or space usage
[09:44] <mike_> any ideas?
[09:44] <roll> i did rpm -i json.rpm
[09:44] <gsonic> to see how fast i can flood it
[09:45] <roll> how can I see that's inside the rpm ?
[09:45] <roll> can I extract the rpm ?
[09:45] <freemind> hello mates - is there any realtime traffic grapher for gnome? I found alot of tools, but no realtime output there :( I'm just looking for something like "du-meter" under win#
[09:45] <blue-frog> gsonic: think you should join #bored-to-death-have-nothing-better-to-do...
[09:45] <agent> gsonic: you cant really do what you want - i mean, it would be easy to do what you want but then you would be banned at gmail or even worse, banned from using your internet by your isp if gmail reports you :D
[09:45] <jrib> roll: what are you trying to install exactly?
[09:46] <mike_> can i have help gettign sound to work 100% it wont work in kopete chat
[09:46] <Seveas> freemind, there's probably a gdesklet that does that for you
[09:46] <gsonic> agent: I think youre exagerating the problem
[09:46] <lifepositive> I have a toolbar in firefox, the toolbar just under the URL toolbar!  and on that toolbar I have dragged some websites saved there!  Where is that stored on the hard drive as I want to move that file to the new firefox I installed?  Anyone know pls?
[09:46] <jrib> roll: if it's json, there are php4-json and php5-json packages in the repositories
[09:47] <agent> gsonic: no, you want to spam your own account as much as possible, right? if so, then no i am not :)
[09:47] <freemind> Seveas, I know - I've tested it out. When I'm downloading with 600kb, this gdesklet just shows "5,2mb/s" every 3 seconds - that isnt realtime?
[09:47] <starchaser> murrlin -> sorry. i was reading the perms of the directorys in that folder.  my interfaces is the same as yours...  just rw-r-r
[09:47] <roll> yea, my situation is this.
[09:47] <roll> I have 5.1.2 version of php. doesn't have the json library.
[09:47] <gsonic> im technicly not wasting my ISP's badwidth, only gmail's
[09:47] <Murrlin> I think it's fixed
[09:47] <roll> so I have 2 options, to upgrade to 5.2 or to install the C extension
[09:47] <Murrlin> let me reboot
[09:47] <starchaser> ok
[09:48] <Zaggynl> driver update time!
[09:48] <roll> anyway, i don't thing there's an easy way to upgrade to 5.2
[09:48] <mike_> can i have help with sound?
[09:48] <Murrlin> silly /e/n/i had 2 extra lines
[09:48] <PF|Linux> Ok, I installed "eggdrop" with apt-get. How do I set this thing up now?
[09:48] <jrib> roll: did you install php from the repositories?
[09:49] <jrib> !sound > mike_
[09:49] <roll> yes, i friend compiled and installed 5.1.2
[09:49] <roll> from php.net
[09:49] <jrib> roll: why not install php from the repositories instead?
[09:49] <roll> how ?
[09:49] <mike_> jrib,  well sound works except in kopete
[09:49] <starchaser> roll->  apt-get install php5
[09:49] <PF|Linux> Ok, I installed "eggdrop" with apt-get.   Are you using dapper or edgy?  or other?
[09:50] <roryy> PF|Linux: sort of. i'm falling asleep ;)
[09:50] <roll> how can that be possible
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[09:53] <roll> girteckis or starchaser ??? who has the truth ?
[09:53] <Seveas> jrib, ?
[09:53] <jrib> Seveas: girteckis
[09:53] <starchaser> actually - pretty sure it might use php5.ini (but i might be getting my fedora and ubuntu mixed up)
[09:53] <Seveas> gracias
[09:53] <jrib> no problemo
[09:54] <roll> my question is: apt-get install php5 will replace the current php.ini ?
[09:54] <Murrlin> it's fixed :) thanks starchaser
[09:54] <Seveas> roll, no
[09:54] <starchaser> roll -> just checked my /etc dir - my php4 ini is in /etc/php4/apache2/   , so i guess that php5 will install into /etc/php5/
[09:54] <roll> but girteckis said yes !
[09:54] <agent> how to fix getting "kernel is too old" when trying to chroot?
[09:54] <harisund> roll starchaser is right.
[09:54] <lifepositive> !jrib
[09:54] <Seveas> roll, notice that that person was removed from the channel
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jrib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <power83> hi to all
[09:55] <Murrlin> ttfn
[09:55] <power83> I need some info about ubuntu
[09:55] <jrib> lifepositive: ?
[09:55] <lifepositive> Seveas: hi there, how are you feeling today?
[09:55] <lifepositive> jrib: just wanted to get your attention ;)  it worked
[09:55] <CPrgmSwR2> is bryan still here
[09:55] <power83> I have a Pentium D 940 CPU, with 64bit support......can I install ubuntu in 64bit mode?
[09:55] <roll> how can I extract an rpm ??
[09:55] <power83> what image cd have I to download?
[09:55] <starchaser> roll -> ubuntu doesnt use rpms.  it uses deb files.
[09:56] <CPrgmSwR2> is bryan still here
[09:56] <ida01> guys howto install an ndiswrapper driver for a wireless card