[04:06] <jorgeu> gnomefreak: that admin tool only handle the language support installed. Don't let me drop UTF-8 that is my problem now. In past releases of ubuntu the command "dpkg-reconfigure locales" solved it because were possible to uncheck all the UFT-8 related locales and select the NON-UTF-8 locales. It isn't possible anymore?
[04:06] <technel> snoops: To test if it works
[04:06] <BlueEagle> kordo: Good, now select everything in your browser by clicking and dragging to mark it. Then go to the gedit window and click your middle button below the line you left.
[04:06] <kordo> BlueEagle, im not sure it is in browser like and it says:
[04:06] <`daffodil> ssuehr, i will look into that and give that a shot, i'm a bit new to this emulation/virtualization thing, i just want to find something that will let me run the whole winXP OS under linux, so then i can finally do away with it, guess i'm turning into more of an ubuntu-aholic than i originally bargained for :)
[04:06] <BlueEagle> kordo: That should paste the new sources.list in your gedit window.
[04:06] <kordo> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20050330)] / hoary main restricted
[04:07] <snoops> technel nope, it wouldn't. that'd generate an error
[04:07] <technel> snoops: Why?
[04:07] <`daffodil> ssuehr:  and VMware worked under dapper for you?
[04:07] <BlueEagle> kordo: is that all you got from source-o-matic?
[04:07] <chespirito> Hoary Hedgehog,i feel like i'm in my grandma's house when i read that
[04:07] <kordo> BlueEagle, huh?
[04:07] <snoops> technel grub sees hdd's as hd number,partition.. linux sees them as /dev/hda, /dev/hdb.. or /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[04:07] <ssuehr> I installed it under Debian Sarge today and I'll be installing it under Dapper soon.  I would expect that it would work under Dapper at least as good as under Sarge
[04:08] <technel> snoops: Ohh, ok. Are you going to be around for a little while? It will take me a bit to test it and this LiveCD takes ages to load
[04:08] <kordo> BlueEagle, no,that is from this alt f2 commands
[04:08] <BlueEagle> kordo: in the gedit window?
[04:08] <snoops> technel okay, and yeah I'll be around
[04:08] <technel> snoops: Alright, thanks
[04:08] <kitsuneofdoom> I am trying to get ATI accelerated graphics to work, I have an HP dv5000z, and when I load gdm using it, the computer crashes
[04:08] <chespirito> anyway,what i want to know is.
[04:08] <kordo> BlueEagle,  gedit window?
[04:08] <lostinc> I have several hundred page docs to scan into the system as PDFs is there a good prog to do this?
[04:08] <`daffodil> thanks for the info ssuehr :)
[04:08] <chespirito> i am compiling cinelerra,the ./configure went well.
[04:08] <BlueEagle> kordo: The window that opened with the command sudo gedit.
[04:09] <kordo> o,yes,i see it is on the top
[04:09] <chespirito> i tried "make" and i receive an error message about some "i686/soundtest.o"
[04:09] <chespirito> what does that mean?
[04:09] <kordo> BlueEagle, yes-gedit
[04:09] <vem0m> hmmmmm
[04:09] <BlueEagle> kordo: Now please go to your browser.
[04:09] <vem0m> what error exactly?
[04:09] <chespirito> FATAL: can't create i686/soundtest.o: Arquivo ou diretrio no encontrado
[04:09] <chespirito> that is portuguese for "file or directory not found"
[04:09] <BlueEagle> kordo: Have you got the text #Automatically generated sources.list there?
[04:09] <nverhaar> ssuehr, its not a PASSIVE/ACTIVE issue im having... the problem is intermittent. FTP transfers to an external FTP on port 1111 work well with small files, but once the files get larger im getting 426 CONNECTION CLOSED errors at seemingly random intervals
[04:10] <vem0m> u do a ./configure first?
[04:10] <chespirito> yes
[04:10] <kordo> BlueEagle, it's open:http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:10] <BlueEagle> kordo: Did you fill in the form like I told you to?
[04:10] <vem0m> try sudo make
[04:10] <chespirito>  same error
[04:10] <NickGarvey> vem0m: you shouldn't need to do that
[04:10] <chespirito> dumb question.
[04:10] <NickGarvey> vem0m: the only sudo you should need is for make install
[04:10] <kordo> yes,with packages of hoary
[04:10] <chespirito> it is about sound,so i think i should ask it
[04:10] <vem0m> well i usally use it and all goes fine :P
[04:11] <NickGarvey> chespirito: have you googled your error?
[04:11] <BlueEagle> kordo: good, did you click the button "Give me a sources.list" at the bottom?
[04:11] <vem0m> yea google loves helping
[04:11] <chespirito> NickGarvey, yes,i found nothing useful
[04:11] <vem0m> :P
[04:11] <vem0m> hmmmm
[04:11] <chespirito> anyway,is the "sound" error related to amarok?
[04:11] <vem0m> what is it u are trying to install?
[04:11] <chespirito> cinelerra.
[04:11] <kitsuneofdoom> I think I found a way to fix my problem, but it involves downgrading a version of a package, how would I do this?
[04:11] <chespirito> i mean,everytime i get an error message with the word "sound" on it,i blame it on amarok.
[04:11] <kordo> BlueEagle, now i did :)
[04:11] <NickGarvey> chespirito: could you pate the error?
[04:11] <vem0m> can u get it thu apt-get or adept?
[04:11] <BlueEagle> kordo: Good now click and drag to mark the text in the browser. Then go to the gedit window and click your middle button below the last line you've got there. This should in theory past the content of the generated sources list into your gedit window.
[04:11] <NickGarvey> chespirito: paste*
[04:12] <whyami> chespirito: I built cinelerra for ubuntu awhile back. I wish I documented. If I remember right, it is trying to build for esd?  Obrigada.
[04:12] <chespirito> i don't know what gound is
[04:12] <farky> how can i share a connection?
[04:12] <vem0m> chespirito can u get it thu apt-get or adept?
[04:12] <NickGarvey> chespirito: ah, well, then you need to get that, and I have no idea how to do so.. so I think.. google would be your best (only) bet
[04:12] <chespirito> gnomefreak, i dont need ubuntu-br,i know english :P
[04:13] <kordo> BlueEagle, cant understand
[04:13] <whyami> chespirito: esd is the enlightenment sound daemon, that gnome seems to like. It's been nothing but trouble for me. In any case, I vaguely remember that I couldn't make either, and then I configured without esd and all was ok.
[04:13] <kordo> cant just i copy/paste?
[04:13] <chespirito> whyami, I'll try it
[04:13] <BlueEagle> kordo: That is what I am telling you to do.
[04:14] <BlueEagle> kordo: The quick way is to mark the text to copy it and click the middle button to paste it. :)
[04:14] <ardchoille> Anyone know how to get an app launcher on the desktop?
[04:14] <kordo> u sayd drag :)
[04:14] <ardchoille> the xfce desktop
[04:14] <chespirito> another doubt,is gound a real word?
[04:14] <kordo> blue
[04:15] <whyami> chespirito: not that I know of. BTW which source for cinelerra did you pick up? There are a couple...
[04:15] <kordo> BlueEagle, this quick doesnt work.copy/paste did
[04:15] <chespirito> whyami, i tried --disable-esd and the error was the same,the source i picked up was...
[04:15] <chespirito> 2.1
[04:15] <BlueEagle> kordo: Ok, well that can happen. The important thing is that your source.list is in your gedit window.
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> why dont you marry it then. :P
[04:15] <BlueEagle> kordo: now save that file.
[04:15] <BlueEagle> kordo: If you closed synaptic before please open it again now.
[04:16] <whyami> chespirito: is there another error earlier that perhaps you aren't noticing becuase it doesn't break the make process?
[04:16] <vem0m> lol i would if i wasn't engaged to my lovely bride to be
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> vem0m,  run away!
[04:16] <snoops> Would anyone know anything about mapping mouse buttons?
[04:16] <kordo> BlueEagle, safe and open
[04:16] <whyami> chespirito: but where did you get this source? I think there's a fork in the source development.
[04:16] <chespirito> i got that one on sourceforge
[04:16] <vem0m> NO!
[04:16] <vem0m> :P
[04:17] <BlueEagle> kordo: Hang on, I will just need to check this setting.
[04:17] <ssuehr> can you do an 'iptables -nL' from the ipcop machine to see what it's doing differently than your custom rules?
[04:17] <whyami> chespirito: also, just so you know, there is a #cinelerra room
[04:17] <kordo> BlueEagle, oks
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> snoops,  ive seen quite a few gentoo wiki pages that cover  the MD518 and other mice - in aganozing details.:)
[04:17] <chespirito> in this server?
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> oops mx518
[04:17] <whyami> chespirito: tes.
[04:17] <whyami> I mean yes
[04:17] <kitsuneofdoom> I need to get the xorg-driver-fglrx package version
[04:17] <chespirito> i'll try asking for help there
[04:17] <kitsuneofdoom> 2.24.8
[04:17] <vem0m> brb all
[04:17] <kitsuneofdoom> 8.24.8 I mean
[04:18] <whyami> chespirito: so you are SURE you are reporting the first error and there isn't another one earlier in the build that you haven't noticed?
[04:18] <snoops> Dr_Willis haha.. I'm wondering if it's possible to map two buttons to the same function.. say middle click and left click both map to 'left click'
[04:18] <kitsuneofdoom> I need to get the xorg-driver-fglrx package version 8.24.8 instead of 2.26.18 which is the recent version
[04:18] <XVampireX> Big problem on elm street
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> snoops,  yes it is. i did that a long time ago.. and amazing thing was the windows drivers would NOT let me do that
[04:18] <XVampireX> My microphone doesn't want to work
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> snoops,  i had a hurt finger so i made the thumb button click :P
[04:18] <spades> snoops you can keysm with xmodmap iirc
[04:18] <chespirito> whyami, there is actually another error in the make.
[04:18] <whyami> chespirito: and that would be...
[04:19] <chespirito> make -f build/Makefile.cinelerra
[04:19] <chespirito> sh: -c: line 1: sintaxe error: unespected "end of file"
[04:19] <technel> snoops, So, yeah. Ubuntu is now booting, (hd1,2) worked, but Windows it just says unrecognized partition type
[04:19] <XVampireX> Hi
[04:19] <XVampireX> Can anyone help me with the microphone?
[04:19] <whyami> chespirito: and is there an error before that one?
[04:19] <snoops> spades oh how would I use keysm? Like I've tried xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5..etc" but when I try xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 2..etc" for instance, the difference being 2 is used twice I'll generate an error
[04:19] <chespirito> whyami, no
[04:20] <whyami> chespirito: can you paste the entire output of the make before it breaks?
[04:20] <whyami> into the pastebin, that is?
[04:20] <snoops> technel ah.. so I guess you need to keep trying different hd(number),(partition) until you find the windows one as well?
[04:20] <chespirito> sure
[04:20] <spades> snoops man xmodmap although im not 100% sure it will do mouse buttons with keysm, the syntax is in the man page
[04:20] <BlueEagle> kordo: now go to the Settings menu and click Archives
[04:20] <whyami> chespirito: do a make clean first
[04:20] <BlueEagle> he left. Can you all believe it?!??! He LEFT! :(
[04:21] <barongas> can anyone help me with getting cdemu or anything comparable that'll help me mount iso's bins etc?
[04:21] <chespirito> wow,big output,what does make clean mean?
[04:21] <vem0m> THANK GOD!
[04:21] <nalioth> BlueEagle: you can't smell the mutton?
[04:21] <snoops> spades oh umm the man is very small (I've read it) and it doesn't show any real examples for mice, except about just mapping different keys to different functions, eg replace this button with this one.. not using two buttons for the same thing
[04:21] <ssuehr> chespirito, make clean removes artifacts from a previous compile.
[04:22] <nalioth> chespirito: "make clean" puts the source directory back to the way it was when it was first extracted
[04:22] <whyami> chespirito: make always tries to start where it last left off. when you run make clean, it cleans up all the unfinished business and flags itself to start from scratch next time.
[04:22] <Bryan_3> hey everyone, need some help on this one, i am trying to start mozilla-thunderbird, an i am getting an error message that says that thunderbird is already running, but it is not, at least it is not in my process list, and i have already tried to reboot
[04:22] <snoops> but I'll have another look spades thanks
[04:22] <spades> snoops im not 100% sure on it but its worth a look
[04:23] <chespirito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17136
[04:23] <dribble> does rhythmbox crapout/unkillably freeze on anybody else?
[04:23] <chespirito> there you go,"make" after i "make clean"ed :P
[04:23] <Ares> So far, no.
[04:23] <Ares> Rhytmbox is working fine for what I'm playing.
[04:23] <Ares> =)
[04:23] <technel> snoops, Well the Disks thing in Ubuntu says that it is Partition 1 -- I know it is on hd1 because it is on the same hard drive as Ubuntu...so why doesn't (hd1,0) work? I did try a few others, they didn't help
[04:23] <juztin> what command would i use to mount /dev/hdb to /storage if hdb is fat32?
[04:23] <arapehl> I need some serious CDROM/CDRW mounting help from someone who really knows their stuff.... PLEASE!!!
[04:23] <technel> dribble, I just started using it as well, haven't had any problems
[04:24] <spades> snoops maybe see if imwheel can do that
[04:24] <dribble> technel, harumph.  it's been givin' me tons of grief
[04:24] <Ares> You sure you have the codecs and stuff?
[04:24] <farky> where can i find the debian package for ndiswrapper?
[04:24] <skavenge> ndiswrapper is in the repos
[04:24] <skavenge> why do you need the .deb
[04:24] <farky> to put it on a computer without internet
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> snoops,  i  just followed that gentoo wiki.. lets see if it worked.. :P brb
[04:25] <nalioth> farky: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:25] <skavenge> ndiswrapper is on the cd
[04:25] <Hobbsee> farky: it's on the ubuntu cd
[04:25] <farky> thanks
[04:25] <arapehl> Anyone?
[04:25] <farky> Hobbsee: it is?
[04:25] <barongas> I'm going to need my kernel source package, anyone know what repository I need?  I can't find 2.6.15-25-386...
[04:25] <skavenge> yes it is
[04:25] <Hobbsee> farky: yep
[04:25] <ardchoille> arapehl: cd's should mount automatically.. mine do
[04:25] <chespirito> and is there anything similar to cinelerra for ubuntu?
[04:25] <skavenge> 'ndis-utils'
[04:25] <arapehl> ardchoille: heh, I wish mine did.
[04:26] <dad> could someone help me with wine?
[04:26] <chespirito> or anything similar to adobe after effects,or combustion,actually,the softwares i used on winblows
[04:26] <farky> Hobbsee: thank you
[04:26] <juztin> chespirito, i got cinelerra to run with ubuntu
[04:27] <Bryan_3> hey everyone, need some help on this one, i am trying to start mozilla-thunderbird, an i am getting an error message that says that thunderbird is already running, but it is not, at least it is not in my process list, and i have already tried to reboot
[04:27] <whyami> chespirito: I dunno...I'm still thinkin'
[04:27] <whyami> chespirito: are you on dapper or breezy?
[04:27] <bimberi> barongas: linux-source is the package
[04:27] <ardchoille> arapehl: the settings to auto-mount a cd are in System -> Preferrences -> Preferred Applications
[04:27] <chespirito> dapper
[04:27] <nalioth> Bryan_3: killall mozilla-thunderbird
[04:27] <chespirito> juztin, how? :P
[04:27] <barongas> bimberi thanks
[04:28] <snoops> spades I had a look at imwheel - seemed really crappy! but this seems kind of right.. using keysym, and xev to find out the button keycode of the mouse then writing a rule to remap it
[04:28] <ardchoille> arapehl: the first tab
[04:28] <bimberi> barongas: np :)
[04:28] <juztin> chespirito, it was on another install that is now gone...but if i remember correctly, i downloaded it from the website and installed it :P
[04:28] <barongas> bimberi, was looking for the right numbers... too easy :)
[04:28] <XVampireX> gstreamer-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture': Could not open resource for reading. [gstalsasrc.c(526): gst_alsasrc_open (): /pipeline0/alsasrc1:
[04:28] <XVampireX> Recording open error: Invalid argument]
[04:28] <juztin> chespirito, however, it ran a little slow due to my lack of necessary ram (i only have 256)
[04:28] <SixtyWatt> I am freaking beyond impressed with Ubuntu. This is my first day using it.
[04:28] <XVampireX> Please help
[04:28] <ardchoille> arapehl: sorry, it's in Removeable Drives and Media
[04:29] <akarimco> wheee, howdy
[04:29] <chespirito> juztin, the problem is that i can't compile it
[04:29] <akarimco> i just posted this question to the forums, but I thought someone might be able to lend a hand in here
[04:29] <Bryan_3> nalioth: see that is just the thing, there are no process to kill
[04:29] <akarimco> my laptop is trying to burn my lap ever since I switched to Ubuntu
[04:29] <juztin> chespirito, why not?
[04:29] <chespirito> i do ./configure,and it all goes fine,than on make,i receive a message error about "i686/soundtest.o"
[04:30] <nalioth> Bryan_3: then some of your mozilla-thunderbird files may be mis permissioned or something
[04:30] <arapehl> ardchoille: All the mount checkboxes are checked... which means there's aproblem somewhere and the drives don't mount automatically ... hence the reason why they won't mount manually either. I need to figure out what's wrong and fix it first :(
[04:30] <juztin> chespirito, might wanna take that to the cinelerra forums...i bet they could help
[04:30] <_grout> im trying to mount a volume but it keeps asking me to specify the file system
[04:30] <Bryan_3> nalioth: so is there some simple way to deal with it?
[04:30] <juztin> chespirito, it looks like a pretty decent video editor, except for the horrible icons they use for their effects :P
[04:31] <ardchoille> arapehl: ahh, nice job of tracking that down on your part :)
[04:31] <Bryan_3> i try to reinstall from the repos
[04:31] <juztin> chespirito, they look like they were drawn by a 12 year old with MS Paint
[04:31] <dad> I installed wine from the add/remove programs thing, but its not showing up in the applications>office menu.  can anyone help?
[04:31] <chespirito> juztin, well,if i wanted nice icons,i'd be on winblows :P
[04:31] <barongas> _grout,  mount -t filesystem file
[04:31] <whyami> chespirito: there is an unofficial .deb binary for cinelerra, at least for breezy. You could look around and see if they have one for dapper yet...
[04:31] <juztin> chespirito, lol, gotcha :D
[04:31] <chespirito> whyami, gonna look for it,thanks
[04:31] <akarimco> :/
[04:31] <juztin> chespirito, that's how i did it, what whyami just said
[04:31] <nalioth> Bryan_3: not sitting in front of your box, i'd not know
[04:31] <arapehl> ardchoille: I haven't done too much on my own actually... ToHellWithGA has been helping me.
[04:31] <Toma-> cinelerra is being considered for edgy, iirc at motu
[04:31] <Bryan_3> :)
[04:32] <bimberi> dad: it's not an application per se.  you use it to run win32 apps, for example using the command 'wine freecell.exe'
[04:32] <nalioth> Bryan_3: you might try irc.mozilla.org  #thunderbird
[04:32] <dad> okay thanks
[04:32] <whyami> chespirito: I just found it.
[04:32] <ToHellWithGA> ardchoille: he's having trouble mounting the drives period
[04:32] <Matrikz> can anyone tell he how i can properly compile gaim beta 3 on ubuntu?
[04:32] <bimberi> dad: by the way you configure it with the 'winecfg' command
[04:32] <bimberi> !winer
[04:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about winer
[04:32] <bimberi> !wine
[04:32] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:32] <chespirito> whyami, really?all i found was some packages for debian
[04:32] <technel> snoops, So, yeah, when I pick the correct partition Ubuntu says the partition type was unknown or something and then there are a bunch of messed up characters, like smilies and other symbols
[04:32] <dad> okay thanks
[04:33] <snoops> technel err which partition?
[04:33] <technel> snoops, the windows one
[04:33] <ardchoille> ToHellWithGA: ahh, ok
[04:33] <akarimco> I guess I can wait for a reply to my forum post... thanks
[04:33] <whyami> chespirito: http://lprod.org/deb/dapper/. You need to edit you /apt/sources list and add deb /http://lprod.org/deb/dapper/ ./ as well as deb-src http://lprod.org/deb/dapper/ ./
[04:33] <Ares> Sorry =?
[04:33] <BlueEagle> matrikz: As a general rule of thumb: If you do not know how to compile a piece of software you ought to be using the pre-compiled and packaged (ie. non-beta) software provided in the repositories. As for building from source build_essential is required.
[04:33] <BlueEagle> !build_essential
[04:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about build_essential
[04:33] <BlueEagle> !build_essentials
[04:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about build_essentials
[04:34] <BlueEagle> hmm
[04:34] <ToHellWithGA> !info build-essential
[04:34] <chespirito> hold on whyami.
[04:34] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[04:34] <BlueEagle> thankyou tohellwithga
[04:34] <whyami> chespirito: then you do an apt-get update then finally apt-get install cinelerra
[04:34] <ToHellWithGA> BlueEagle: it's a dash, not an underline
[04:34] <Matrikz> well Ubuntu is the only distro that i haven't been able to get gaim 2.0 beta 3 to compile on
[04:34] <ToHellWithGA> cheers
[04:34] <Matrikz> which is why i asked
[04:34] <chespirito> can you please give me an example with one of the files?
[04:34] <dad> wow, that wine thing is amazing
[04:34] <chespirito> i should do...
[04:34] <chespirito> deb /http://lprod.org/deb/dapper ./
[04:34] <chespirito> and then deb-src...?
[04:34] <whyami> chespirito: have you edited /etc/apt/sources.list before?
[04:35] <technel> snoops, Any ideas?
[04:35] <arapehl> ardchoille: do you have any experience troubleshooting cdrom/rw mounting?
[04:35] <chespirito> yes
[04:35] <ardchoille> arapehl: no, sorry, they've always just wokred for me.
[04:35] <whyami> chespirito: okay then just add 2 lines. The first is: "deb http://lprod.org/deb/dapper/ ./" (without the quotes)
[04:35] <newbuntu> Can anyone here please help me, im trying to convert downloaded avi movies to vcd or dvd, basically so I can watch them on my DVD player & TV ... I'm trying without luck to find a single application that can do the conversion.
[04:36] <arapehl> crap
[04:36] <whyami> newbuntu: use tovid and tovidgui
[04:36] <arapehl> ardchoille: okay, well thanks anyway :)
[04:36] <juztin> what's that really good partitioning program that starts with a 'g' ?  :P
[04:36] <whyami> juztin: gparted
[04:36] <Toma-> newbuntu: qdvdauthor will work
[04:36] <juztin> whyami, thats it, thanks :)
[04:36] <newbuntu> whyami thanks i'll try that
[04:36] <arapehl> anyone? out of the 721 ppl here, SOMEONE MUST know how to troubleshoot CDR and CDRW mounting! PLEASE!
[04:36] <winner> hey
[04:36] <BlueEagle> Why does aptitude hold libcairo2 back. It sais 1.1.10-0ubuntu1 is installed and that it is holding back the "upgrade" 1.0.4-0ubuntu1 (dapper).It sais it's because of libfreetype6 or something.
[04:37] <Toma-> newbuntu: basically, converting to avi to dvd requires you to "Author" a dvd. you can googling "dvd authoring ubuntu" if you want, but qdvdauthor will be the best bet
[04:37] <winner> i'm trying to install ubuntu, but during the partition process i get stuck with "resize operation failure"
[04:37] <winner> what should i do?
[04:37] <chespirito> whyami, i'm downloading cinelerra
[04:37] <Ares> Hmm, what are you trying to resize?
[04:37] <chespirito> thank you very very much,wow!
[04:37] <Ares> That was at winner.
[04:37] <lefty> hey i downloaded the ubuntu iso(PPC) and its 702mb which i can't write to cd. Why is this? anyone know what i can do
[04:38] <winner> Ares: i'm trying to resize one of my hard drive partitions to make room for an installation
[04:38] <newbuntu> toma- thanks im going there now
[04:38] <whyami> newbuntu, Toma-: I have to disagree. qdvdauthor does a nice job but it is hard to use and buggy. tovidgui is fast, quick, painless and...doesn't give you as much control with menus and such.
[04:38] <ardchoille> arapehl: does the cd drive appear in the hardware browser?
[04:38] <Ares> Winner: Whats currently on it?
[04:38] <winner> Ares: my windows xp partition lol
[04:38] <arapehl> ardchoille: yep... just doesn't mount
[04:38] <Toma-> whyami: ok then. i use it flawlessly to create multi-movie dvds
[04:38] <ardchoille> arapehl: tried mounting as root?
[04:39] <Atomic_UE> Is there a simple way of downloading software/updates using one ubuntu machine, then slipstreaming those updates to other ubuntu machines on the network? or getting them to retrieve them from the first machine?
[04:39] <whyami> Toma-: okay. Sorry. I guess you mileage is different than mine. :-)
[04:39] <arapehl> ardchoille: yeah, all it does is comes back to the prompt... no errors nothing!
[04:39] <Atomic_UE> This way you're not constantly downloading the same thing
[04:39] <Ares> Winner: So, do you only have one hard drive?
[04:39] <arapehl> ardchoille: where's a log file I can check?
[04:39] <winner> Ares: no i have two
[04:39] <ardchoille> arapehl: /var/log/messages
[04:39] <Ares> Winner: The one you are trying to resize, is it all used space?
[04:39] <winner> Ares: no theres quite some free space
[04:40] <Toma-> whyami: newbuntu, if its simple and all you need, then use it. for a full featured authoring system (probably not needed) use qdvdauthor
[04:40] <arapehl> ardchoille: thanks, checking now
[04:40] <lefty> hey i downloaded the ubuntu iso(PPC) and its 702mb which i can't write to cd. Why is this? anyone know what i can do?
[04:40] <Ares> Winner: Damn, and you defraged the disk before firing up cfdisk or gparted?
[04:40] <whyami> chespirito: you are doing this with an apt-get install?
[04:41] <chespirito> whyami: yes
[04:41] <winner> Ares: no. damn. is that going to be a problem? should i go back to windows and defrag?
[04:41] <winner> Ares: or, actually, is there a way to defrag while in the installation state?
[04:41] <whyami> chespirito: let us know...
[04:41] <Ares> Winner: I hear it always helps, either then that I really don't know =P [No way to defrag in installation state that I know of :(]
[04:41] <arapehl> ardchoille / ToHellWithGA: "Jul  3 22:31:46 desktop kernel: [55884.692313]  cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!"
[04:41] <ardchoille> arapehl: blank disc?
[04:41] <wheelswitch> how do i open programs up into another workspace from the command line?
[04:41] <wheelswitch> is there an argument?
[04:42] <winner> ahh alright. im going to go see if it'd be better after i defrag it. thanks Ares :)
[04:42] <arapehl> ardchoille: last I tried it was a commercial CD (Norton Anti-Virus in my CDRW and ATI Radeon Drivers in my CDR)
[04:42] <Ares> Winner: No problem, but I'm not really smart with Linux :O
[04:42] <cjones> does anybody in hear know wine very well
[04:42] <ardchoille> arapehl: wow
[04:42] <technel> snoops, This is the error I am getting: filesystem type unknown partition type 0x7 from http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml (GRUB error 17)
[04:42] <wheelswitch> cjones:  what do you want to know?
[04:42] <ToHellWithGA> ardchoille: i figured if he tried commercially pressed data discs they should recognize easiest
[04:43] <cjones> well i am installing a game and as it loads the files the file names are in arabic
[04:43] <juztin> i am trying to mount a hard disk to /storage .... when i try, i get this message : "mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /storage busy" ...  it isn't mounted....what do i do to make /storage not busy?
[04:43] <ardchoille> ToHellWithGA: yeah, that's what I'd have done too. I think the drive itself has a problem reading.
[04:44] <BlueEagle> technel: 0x7 is HPFS/NTFS file system.
[04:44] <ToHellWithGA> ardchoille: he said the drives worked under windoze, so there must be something deeper
[04:44] <cjones> wheelswitch i am installing a game and as it loads the files the file names are in arbic
[04:44] <ardchoille> ToHellWithGA: Really? ok, yeah, something's amiss
[04:44] <technel> BlueEagle, Yeah, I am trying to boot into Windows. But I am getting that error
[04:44] <chespirito> whyami, it's running!
[04:45] <wheelswitch> cjones:  not somthing ive seen before, sorry.
[04:45] <chespirito> I don't know whether it is good or not,but that's another thing :P
[04:45] <BlueEagle> technel: I see. Could you put your menu.lst on ubuntu.pastebin.com?
[04:45] <BlueEagle> or !pastebin
[04:45] <technel> BlueEagle, Absolutely, one second
[04:45] <whyami> chespirito: excellent! Have fun with it. I found it a bit buggy but worth putting up with. It's pretty powerful. I haven't used 2.1...
[04:45] <ToHellWithGA> \begin{CarTalk}technel: i think i've found your problem.  you're trying to boot into windows\end{CarTalk}
[04:46] <winner> is there a list of what wine is capable of running?
[04:46] <Pr0n> my friend has a ubuntu box at his house and i can ssh into it, where can i find a guide to installing vnc through ssh...?
[04:46] <wheelswitch> how do i open a program in another workspace from the command line, is there an argument?
[04:46] <ToHellWithGA> winner: winehq.com
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> winner,  check the wine homepage..  i doubt if theres a definitive list
[04:46] <chespirito> whyami, you should receive a Noob Savior award or something.
[04:46] <ToHellWithGA> there is a good list called AppDB
[04:46] <purserj> quick question, who would I need to speak to about finding out if the realplayer package in multiverse is "official" as in Real Media has approved it?
[04:46] <GrubChub> hi there, when I run apt I sometimes get some dependancy errors, can these dependancies usually be installed through apt?
[04:47] <whyami> chespirito: thanks. I got SO MUCH help here when I was starting out...
[04:47] <arapehl> I'm getting the following errors with my CDR/CDRW drives ... http://pastebin.ca/78444 ... can anyone help?
[04:47] <technel> ToHellWithGA, I had Microsoft as much as the next guy, but still some things for work and games aren't available on Linux
[04:47] <technel> !pastebin
[04:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:48] <chespirito> whyami, i received a lot of help here in my first weeks,now I'm using it a little less for problem solving
[04:48] <technel> BlueEagle, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17137
[04:48] <cjones> wheelswitch are you there?
[04:48] <siriusnova> i need help recompiling wpa supplicant for my patched madwifi drivers, can anyone help?
[04:48] <ToHellWithGA> technel: yeah man.  i feel you on that.  i can't run Sony's jukebox software to transfer to my minidisc now :/
[04:48] <siriusnova> please
[04:48] <siriusnova> :(
[04:48] <wheelswitch> cjones:  yeah
[04:48] <GrubChub> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:48] <GrubChub>   linux-image-2.6.12-9-386: Depends: initramfs-tools (>= 0.17) but it is not going to be installed
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> Games are for the Weak.
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:48] <Pr0n> my friend has a ubuntu box at his house and i can ssh into it, where can i find a guide to installing vnc through ssh...??
[04:48] <barongas> I'm trying to figure out why I don't have a /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/build folder... I installed linux-source.. do I need to dpkg it or something? can't remember how to do these things...
[04:48] <whyami> chespirito: now if only there where I channel like this so I could figure out how to fix my car...
[04:48] <abstractism> Dr_Willis: ya rly
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> Pr0n,  sudo apt-get install vncserver
[04:48] <BlueEagle> technel: sata, scsi or ide disks?
[04:49] <chespirito> whyami, hahahahaha.
[04:49] <deshantm> hi, any recommendations on digital camera software?
[04:49] <ToHellWithGA> Dr_Willis: winmine.exe runs great under WINE.  it's the best computer game ever anyway so i don't need windows to play games
[04:49] <Pr0n> do i need root access or not?
[04:49] <cjones> wheelswitch i am installing a game and the words are in arabic can i show you a screenshot
[04:49] <technel> BlueEagle, Both partitions are located on my SATA drive -- I have an IDE drive as well, but it is just storage
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> Pr0n,  to install somthing - of course.
[04:49] <ToHellWithGA> deshantm: you'll have to be more specific
[04:49] <ToHellWithGA> photo editing?
[04:49] <chespirito> whyami, real life should have things like irc or google.
[04:49] <whyami> deshantm: I know this is lame but I use picasa under wine...
[04:49] <chespirito> as a very funny quote on bash.org says,i need to find my socs :P
 cjones:  not somthing ive seen before, sorry.
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> Pr0n,  or you could use the Xming stuff under windows to have remote X apps show up on your windows box.
[04:49] <Gareth1> Pr0n, yes you would (sudo means to run something as root, it will prompt you for the root password)
[04:49] <chespirito> socks*
[04:49] <deshantm> i just acquired a Kodak DC3400
[04:50] <ToHellWithGA> lol @ acquired.  5 finger discount, deshantm ?
[04:50] <cjones> thanks anyway
[04:50] <deshantm> just want to be able to use the format functionality
[04:50] <Ares> When you type in your root password as "sudo" in Terminal, is it suppose to come up with * or absolutely nothing?
[04:50] <deshantm> a gift
[04:50] <ToHellWithGA> Ares: nothing i think
[04:50] <hareem> does any one know how to setup ubuntu to work in an internet cafe enviroment
[04:50] <BlueEagle> technel: I see. Well it has been my experience with the SIS sata chip that grub is unable to see the difference between (hd0) and (hd1) between the 1st, 2nd and 3rd stage.
[04:50] <deshantm> from a friend who got a new one
[04:50] <Gareth1> Ares, nothing - it doesn't echo what you're typing
[04:50] <GrubChub> anyone have any suggestions for resolving depandancy issues? can they usually be installed through apt? or do you usually have to hunt for them?
[04:50] <BlueEagle> technel: That might be what causes your alement. Are you booting from your IDE drive or your SATA drive?
[04:50] <BlueEagle> technel: (ie which mbr is read)
[04:50] <whyami> deshantm: after picasa...I suppose you could use GQview. I don't think any of them are great...
[04:50] <deshantm> ubuntu did fine with getting the pics off it... thats not a problem
[04:50] <Ares> Anyway to echo what I'm typing, or a way to echo that I am infact typing, I always mess up. :(
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> hareem,  ya may want to clarify that statement as to what you are tryign to do.
[04:51] <whyami> deshantm: so what do you want?
[04:51] <skeen> I just tried to install Ubuntu but it froze at the last moment. I noticed that the harddrive had heated so much that I couldn't touch it for anymore than a second. Is this the likely cause? Do I need a new fan?
[04:51] <hareem> well sir i am trying to setup a ubuntu or kubuntu cyber cafe
[04:51] <nick_> grubchub, I usually use the X front end... Adept to solve these issues
[04:51] <Gareth1> Ares, I don't believe so unfortuantely - it's coded into the sudo program I think
[04:51] <deshantm> which app would you think could support "format"
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> skeen,  fans are always good.
[04:51] <BlueEagle> skeen: How much RAM is on your box?
[04:51] <deshantm> i.e. delete pictures
[04:51] <skeen> 512MB
[04:52] <technel> BlueEagle, Booting from SATA drive. I had a HUGE issue with installing GRUB with that second hard drive (it was like 4 or 5 pages of forum posts on ubuntuforums.org), but I ended up just unplugging it and installing GRUB. It worked great, but then I went into my BIOS and did the "Switch to Default Options & Save", and then somehow this stuff got messed up.
[04:52] <Ares> Garth1: Just sudo, or every box? It seems to mimic that behavior in Slackware.
[04:52] <GrubChub> thanks nick :)
[04:52] <whyami> deshantm: the programs I named will work. Also EOG (eye of gnome) is built into gnome and you could just use nautilus to look at the thumbnails and delete etc. is this what you want?
[04:52] <BlueEagle> skeen: Well then you shouldn't be swapped to death. But a fan for a single harddrive is usually not required unless you've insulated it or covered the breathing hole(s).
[04:52] <ToHellWithGA> skeen: can you move the hard drive away from other hot parts of your PC?
[04:53] <ToHellWithGA> i put my primary hard drive as low and far from other warm stuff as possible
[04:53] <hareem> can ubuntu be setup so that the users sessions expires after a certain time
[04:53] <BlueEagle> technel: Check that your sata boot rom is enabled in the bios.
[04:53] <deshantm> whyami, thanks i will look into those
[04:53] <Gareth1> Ares, it's the same for every distribution that uses GNU code (which sudo is a part of)
[04:53] <BlueEagle> technel: I think it should be but it doesn't hurt to check.
[04:53] <skeen> Im not really referring to a harddrive fan...but the general fan in the box, whatever thats called.
[04:53] <nick_> grubchub if you want, you could quickly see what that package depends on by typing apt-cache depends {insert package name} | less
[04:53] <Ares> Gareth1: [Damn]  Thanks though.
[04:53] <BlueEagle> technel: it might be labled as "raid boot rom" or "raid rom" in the BIOS.
[04:54] <Gareth1> Ares: yeah, it's a pain - bit confusing for a first time user
[04:54] <skeen> When I put my hands in front of it...I can hardly feel anything. Its pretty much useless. Is overheating associated with freezing?
[04:54] <Gareth1> Ares, you could use gksudo come to think of it
[04:54] <nick_> grubchub, but adept does this also by going into detail on the package your trying to install
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> It can be
[04:54] <SixtyWatt> I cannot get wmv videos to play in firefox. I have tried everything listed in the guide.
[04:54] <Ares> Gareth1: Explain? I just started using Ubuntu today.
[04:54] <skeen> Jack_Sparrow...I saw Johnny Depp today. :)
[04:54] <siriusnova> can anyone help me with recompiling wpa supplicant ?
[04:54] <SixtyWatt> I even installed mplayer plugin which worked on my other desktop
[04:54] <technel> BlueEagle, This is a HP computer, they have a really different BIOS than I am used to. Would it be under like when you go to Disk Management, select a disk, and it shows the options for it?
[04:55] <Gareth1> Ares, try running "gksudo synaptic" - you should get a fancy GUI prompt window for the password (which will echo * when you type)
[04:55] <grte> Ares: gksudo is like sudo, except that instead of having to type it into a terminal, a graphical prompt will pop up and ask you to enter your password.
[04:55] <BlueEagle> technel: Either that or somwhere around integrated peripherals.
[04:55] <Gareth1> hm I wonder
[04:55] <Gareth1> !gksudo
[04:55] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[04:55] <Pr0n> ive forgotten my root password, but i can login on my normal account, how can i get my root passwrd?
[04:56] <skeen> lol @ Pr0n...
[04:56] <spades> Pr0n sudo passwd and set a new one
[04:56] <grte> He can't.
[04:56] <guest> hellow channel
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Pron there is no Root password... Use Sudo
[04:56] <grte> He can't login to his normal account.
[04:56] <BlueEagle> Hello guest.
[04:56] <hareem> does any one know how to setup ubuntu to work in an internet cafe enviroment
[04:56] <technel> BlueEagle, Alright, I will look for it
[04:56] <BlueEagle> technel: Good luck
[04:56] <Ares> Gareth1: Oh wow, pretty, to bad I hate the choppy fade :(
[04:56] <spades> grte reread that, he can login, unless he typo'd
[04:56] <grte> Ah.
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> hareem:  Any specifics on what you need
[04:57] <Gareth1> Ares, glad to hear it worked for you - about the choppiness, are you using an older machine? or perhaps you are using the incorrect video drivers
[04:57] <siriusnova> can anyone help me with recompiling wpa supplicant to support my patched madwifi drivers ? the wpa options dont exist in Network Manager anymore so i am assuming i need to recompile wpa supplicant
[04:57] <Ares> Gareth1: I'm using a Nvidia GeForce4 with 512mb ram and the driver I got was from the "Easy Ubuntu" script.
[04:57] <guest> looking advice  ...  thinking of installing a lamp server  is there a package that is  1 good package for admining all  ?
[04:58] <jon_> As "root" how do I access my "home/username" folder in the terminal
[04:58] <spades> cd /home/username
[04:58] <hareem> well jack i want to setup a ubuntu cyber cafe. So that my clients come in get a ticket  and use any ubuntu machine for the time on their ticket
[04:58] <gumpish> cd ~username
[04:58] <grte> cd ~
[04:58] <grte> cd ~username, yeah.
[04:58] <Ares> What does cd stand for again?
[04:58] <gumpish> change dir
[04:58] <skavenge> change directory
[04:58] <guest> change dir ??????
[04:58] <spades> guest you can use webmin as a portal but im not sure if its pretty
[04:58] <Ares> Der, thanks.
[04:59] <BlueEagle> spades: webmin is no longer in the repositories afaik.
[04:59] <jon_> "cd~username" worked, thx for helping me out, I'm a noob
[04:59] <skavenge> !webmin
[04:59] <Gareth1> heh Ares we were all new once
[04:59] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[04:59] <spades> BlueEagle he can compile it :)
[04:59] <grte> Ares: Check out linuxcommand.org
[04:59] <Ares> Its not that I don't know some commands, I know them, its that my memory is absolutely horrible.
[04:59] <guest> ah looking something  i can install on to the  box and run from it
[04:59] <hareem> any help
[04:59] <BlueEagle> spades: He can, but it is depreciated. (I still use it to set up shorewall tho=
[04:59] <living> hi, i have two mouse installed here (a PS2 and a USB) but only one of them is enabled when I boot. and what's worse is that I cannot choose which one to enable (it looks random). is there any way i can choose which one to use (without unplugging them) or, even better, use both?
[04:59] <grte> Ah.
[04:59] <BlueEagle> )
[04:59] <Gareth1> I can never remember uname when I need it
[05:00] <gumpish> living: just for kicks, why do you need both?
[05:00] <NickGarvey> "uname -r" is kernel
[05:00] <NickGarvey> uname -a is everything
[05:00] <NickGarvey> thats all you really need
[05:00] <BlueEagle> living: what gumpish asked
[05:00] <ToHellWithGA> gumpish: akimbo mousing pwns
[05:00] <Gareth1> yeah, I know - I just forget the command NickGarvey
[05:00] <gumpish> lol
[05:00] <Ares> I only need three commands, sudo, gedit, and ls. Moving in terminal makes me feel tired :O [Perhaps I'm lazy?]
[05:00] <sjhill> omg
[05:00] <NickGarvey> Gareth1: ah ;)
[05:00] <uboyo> did anyone notice that dapper's xorg is choppy?
[05:00] <living> BlueEagle, gumpish: i am used to the trackball mouse while my mom is used to the "typical" mouse
[05:00] <grte> Lazy?
[05:00] <uboyo> mouse movement stutters
[05:01] <grte> GUI is good for moving files from one folder to the other.
[05:01] <gumpish> living: the trackball is PS/2?
[05:01] <sjhill> is there a channel specific to ubuntu and wireless adapters?
[05:01] <grte> For everything else, terminal is the lazy way.
[05:01] <grte> It just takes learning.
[05:01] <hareem> can ubuntu be used in an internet cafe enviroment
[05:01] <living> gumpish: yes
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> hareem:  WHat software would thry use if youwere running windows?
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Just trying to see the features you are after
[05:01] <guest> !lamp server
[05:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about lamp server
[05:01] <hyphenated> living: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[05:01] <NickGarvey> !lamp > guest
[05:02] <hareem> well quite simply i would use windwos 2003 server and xp as client
[05:02] <Gareth1> !women
[05:02] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[05:02] <Gareth1> damn, was hoping for something else there
[05:02] <BlueEagle> hareem: I do not know of a package in the repository that will do what you are asking. You will need to search the internet. However Ununtu is just as suitable for installing those packages, however support on those packages is done by the provider (unless anyone here has got any experience with them)
[05:02] <hareem> domain controller would do this job. But windows means that i have to cough up $4500 to Microsoft
[05:02] <NickGarvey> I have read that women howto thing
[05:02] <barongas> anyone know where the kernel source directory ends up after download linux-source?
[05:02] <Jack_Sparrow> hareem: How you manage the amount of time
[05:02] <living> hyphenated: sure.  done -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17138
[05:03] <guest> samba not be set up as a domain controler ?
[05:03] <hareem> well i can just remote log off the user
[05:03] <hareem> i really dont need to time stamp them
[05:03] <hareem> in windows atleast
[05:03] <living> hyphenated: right now, the USB mouse is working. sometimes it is the PS2 that works
[05:03] <gumpish> Ok, is there a package that monitors the status of a host and mails you when it stops responding to ping?
[05:04] <Gareth1> hareem, that'd be quite difficult with anywhere more than 10 stations
[05:04] <hareem> well how would i do it with 10 stations Gareth1
[05:04] <BlueEagle> hareem: Have you installed ubuntu yet? I see there is a package named "pessulus" that might be what you're after.
[05:04] <Ares> Hey, can anyone time check Texas? I think my BIOS messed up Ubuntu's time. [Again]
[05:04] <siriusnova> can anyone help me with recompiling wpa supplicant to support my patched madwifi drivers so i can use wpa via Network Manager?
[05:04] <abstractism> its 10:04 here
[05:04] <Ares> Ok, thanks.
[05:04] <GaiaX11> hareem, I think you need to set up cron
[05:05] <abstractism> welcome, at least I can help a little bit here
[05:05] <Ares> Abstractism: Haha, don't worry, I'm sure you help out tons =)
[05:05] <hyphenated> living: yeah, that's the "Configured Mouse" section of it. if you had a section for the PS/2 mouse, and it was listed in the "ServerLayout" section, then they'd both work together.
[05:05] <hareem> but how would i be able to contoll the stations
[05:05] <technel> Sorry, who was helping me again?
[05:05] <Ares> Technel: wait a second, I'll look =P
[05:06] <living> hyphenated: but wouldn't that section get cleared on next reboot? i mean, it looks like ubuntu reworks the xorg.conf file on every boot, doesn't it?
[05:06] <abstractism> Ares: nah, I just got here today and couldn't find anyone to help me get my mac formatted CD-ROMs working
[05:06] <BlueEagle> !info pessulus
[05:06] <ubotu> pessulus: lockdown editor for GNOME. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 52 kB, installed size 728 kB
[05:06] <Ares> Technel: BlueEagle was helping for a bit... and maybe someoen else to.
[05:06] <GaiaX11> GaiaX11, hareem I think from the server.
[05:06] <technel> Ares, Ah, yes, that's right. hyphenated started, then snoops, and now BlueEagle
[05:06] <hyphenated> living: what does ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf say?
[05:06] <sjhill> hmm, no help for wireless here i guess
[05:06] <technel> BlueEagle, I was not able to find that in the BIOS =\
[05:07] <Ares> Technel: What was your problem again? Unable to find the Windows partition?
[05:07] <hyphenated> technel: google for details about HP bios and how to configure LBA mode for your disk in it. it should be there somewhere
[05:07] <living> hyphenated: heh. looks like it doesn't rework it ;)
[05:07] <hareem> so i can use a normal ubuntu desktop to act as server right
[05:07] <BlueEagle> hareem: msg
[05:08] <technel> Ares, At this point I am 99% sure it is on (hd1,0), but it gives the error that the partition couldn't be read or something -- 0x7
[05:08] <sjhill> not much better than debian
[05:08] <nedss_> hey all...
[05:08] <goethe> how do i check which services are currently running on my machine??
[05:08] <technel> I have a picture of the error, one second
[05:08] <hareem> ok i have that installed but i would have to manually make lock down changes on all pc;s
[05:08] <BlueEagle> technel: Ok. You could attempt to install grub to your ide disc and boot from that perhaps?
[05:08] <hyphenated> living: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17139 <-- my touchpad (basically a PS/2 mouse using synaptics driver instead of whatever it is) and a USB mouse play together fine
[05:08] <BlueEagle> technel: Not sure if that will work at all tho.
[05:08] <nedss_> trying to use vnc...and am getting a blank screen w/ an X whats wrong?
[05:08] <dibblego> how do I generate an ISO from a Ubuntu CD? I have the CD but it is scratched up
[05:08] <GaiaX11> hareem, there is a ubuntu cd server in distrowatch
[05:08] <hareem> is there any way i can centrally control my users
[05:08] <BlueEagle> technel: just for kicks: try setting your windows root to (hd0,0)
[05:09] <abstractism> speaking of which
[05:09] <zcat[1] > dibblego: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=ubuntu.iso
[05:09] <hareem> yeah but that cd is LAMP--- what would i be doing with apache installed
[05:09] <nedss_> trying to use vnc...and am getting a blank screen w/ an X whats wrong?
[05:09] <dibblego> gah, I knew that too, thanks
[05:09] <BlueEagle> technel: it should not work for any logical reason but after all it's windows we're trying to boot. :)
[05:09] <living> hyphenated: thankyou a lot :) i'll do some tests now and come back in a few minutes with the bad or good news
[05:09] <GaiaX11> hareem, go there download it and install it
[05:09] <abstractism> can anyone help me get my mac formatted discs working?
[05:09] <nedss_> don't have physical access to the machine
[05:09] <hyphenated> living: you'll have to change the driver for the synaptics section. I can't remember what it should be changed to
[05:09] <nedss_> but do have ssh access
[05:09] <Ares> Technel: Please, come back it works, I really want to know if 0,0 does in fact work for no reason [aswell] :P
[05:10] <BlueEagle> technel: other than that installing windows to the primary master IDE drive will in most cases cure your problem because that's where windows "wants to be"(tm) :)
[05:10] <living> hyphenated: "PS/2" i guess. or "ImPS/2"
[05:10] <heimdall_> Hi
[05:10] <technel> BlueEagle, Over the course of a month of asking in here and on ubuntuforums.org, it was determined that a bug in Ubuntu/GRUB does not work if your OS is on a SATA drive and you have an IDE drive installed
[05:10] <Ares> Oh! You have a SATA and an IDE installed?
[05:10] <hyphenated> living: for Protocol, yes. but you also need Driver set correctly ;-)
[05:11] <Ares> I could have told you that!
[05:11] <technel> Ares, BlueEagle, Here is the weird error: http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/720/000019pt.jpg
[05:11] <BlueEagle> ares: Thing is that I had a sata+ide setup and it didn't matter if I specified (hd0,0) or (hd1,0) it booted the same partition in every case.
[05:11] <living> hyphenated: ah, heh. "mouse" should do i guess :P
[05:11] <hareem> i checked that ubuntu server has no central user control
[05:11] <Ares> I know a fix to that bug.
[05:11] <technel> BlueEagle, Here is the thread I have been referring to if you are interested: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179908
[05:11] <Ares> I think.
[05:11] <hareem> who ever suggested this. You can check for your self to
[05:11] <BlueEagle> technel: oh oh oh!
[05:11] <Ares> Technel: Switch to Lilo.
[05:11] <hyphenated> or psmouse. I can't remember. give it a whirl.
[05:11] <BlueEagle> technel: in your menu.lst change root (hd0,0) to rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[05:12] <kramer_> Does anybody know how to change the default web browser
[05:12] <BlueEagle> or make it hd(1,0) since that was what you had. :)
[05:12] <heimdall_> I got a problem after upgrading to dapper from breezy, my laptop is sleeping without warning
[05:12] <BlueEagle> technel: in your menu.lst change root (hd1,0) to rootnoverify (hd1,0)
[05:12] <Tonren> 'Sup #ubuntu.
[05:12] <BlueEagle> tonren: the opposite of down. :)
[05:12] <technel> BlueEagle, Alright, doing it now
[05:12] <abstractism> hi tonren
[05:12] <heimdall_> as if the energy saver function was on, but no :/
[05:12] <Ares> Tonren: Hello.
[05:12] <Tonren> BlueEagle: You will pay for your tomfoolery
[05:13] <BlueEagle> tonren: I already do. :)
[05:13] <Tonren> hahaha
[05:13] <Tonren> Hey, doe sanyone have any experience installing a 32bit chroot on 64bit arch?
[05:13] <BlueEagle> tonren: It's true. Each month I pay various operators a bribe so they won't kick me when I'm off topic like now. :p
[05:13] <Ares> BlueEagle: How much?
[05:13] <siriusnova> anyone know how to recompile wpa supplicant to support new madwifi drivers?
[05:13] <Tonren> BlueEagle: You do what you've gotta do.
[05:14] <hareem> by the way is there a domain controller for ubuntu or kububtu
[05:14] <BlueEagle> ares: I pay "an undisclosed amount"(tm) to keep them happy. (hint: The currency is cookies)
[05:14] <Ares> BlueEagle: What type? I must pay off a few people, and do they pay for postage? :O
[05:14] <snoops> binding mouse buttons to other mouse buttons anyway? I've been struggling with it for a couple days now
[05:14] <abstractism> for dapper x64, are there any good voip apps other than ekiga and twinkle?
[05:14] <kalosaurusrex> !vfat
[05:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:15] <noiesmo> any apt-get guru's here trying to work out what i need to remove to let apt-get install a package that has dependany problems
[05:15] <snoops> for which protocol abstractism?
[05:15] <BlueEagle> abstractism: skype runs on linux. Not sure if they've got x64 arch yet tho.
[05:15] <Tonren> So, no one's done a 32bit chroot?
[05:15] <living> hyphenated: ok, done! :) thankyou very much
[05:15] <hareem> guys is there a domain controller for ubuntu or kubuntu
[05:16] <Tonren> I knew I shouldn't have installed the freaking 64bit version.  But now I don't know what to do to properly install the other version.
[05:16] <Ares> BlueEagle: Ok, I think an operator will kick me soon, so BlueEagle, anyway to help me change my menu.lst to boot Windows first and have Ubuntu selected etc? [Details will be explained]
[05:16] <heimdall_> is anyone has an idea for my problem ,
[05:16] <Tonren> heimdall_: What's buggin' you?
[05:16] <hyphenated> living: working? sweet
[05:16] <abstractism> I checked skype.com earlier today and there's just i386
[05:17] <IdleOne> !skype
[05:17] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:17] <technel> BlueEagle, It just showed the screen like before, no error, but it was just the screen with the funky characters at the bottom
[05:17] <Tonren> abstractism: You're running 64 bit?  What do you do about Macromedia Flash?
[05:17] <Ares> Abstractism: The joys of 64.
[05:17] <technel> BlueEagle, Maybe I just need to reinstall GRUB?
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Ares: so edit your menu.lst
[05:17] <Ares> Jack_Sparrow: I'm to much of a weeny after screwing up all my other bootloaders.
[05:17] <technel> BlueEagle, What was thing you were telling me to change in the BIOS earlier?
[05:17] <BlueEagle> technel: That might help.
[05:17] <heimdall_> Tonren : since I've upgraded to dapper, my laptop is sleeping without warning :/
[05:18] <abstractism> Tonren: I havent got that running either
[05:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Ares: to make windows default it just as easy as movi it up to the top of the list
[05:18] <BlueEagle> technel: The sata raid controller might need to be active or the sata boot rom. Everything named sata perhaps?
[05:18] <Tonren> abstractism: It's driving me up the wall.  I'm tired of not being able to see stuff on Youtube!  I'm not sure if I want to scrap it and install 32bit, or install a 32bit chroot!
[05:18] <BlueEagle> :p
[05:18] <Tonren> heimdall_: That's dreadful.  Is it SLEEPING or shutting down?  Can you "wake it up" again once it sleeps?
[05:19] <BlueEagle> hareem: A "domain controller" is a windows NT thing. What you probably want is a file and printer server isn't it?
[05:19] <heimdall_> yep I can wake it up
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Ares: copy your grub/menu.lst to #Jack_Sparrow
[05:19] <heimdall_> Tonren : but I can't figure out why it is sleeping
[05:19] <Tonren> heimdall_: Hmm... you should snoop around Ubuntu resource sites, like the forums.  I'll bet you that someone else has had this problem.
[05:19] <abstractism> Tonren: yeah its a pain, but I probably won't scrap it..I have a windows machine thats running 32bit xp pro, because they fail
[05:19] <hareem> well is there any alternative domain contoller for linux. Or something similar to domain controller in ubunut or linux world
[05:19] <heimdall_> Tonren : I did, I found nothing on the forum
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Ares: To edit it go to term sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:20] <BlueEagle> hareem: ...unless you want to have windows machine logging on to your network that is. Then you'll need something like samba or something.
[05:20] <abstractism> Tonren: multiple computers for the win :)
[05:20] <Tonren> abstractism: I have one too, it's sitting right next to my laptop at the moment.  But it's SUCH a hassle to get the URL from an IM window on one screen to the other, you know?
[05:20] <abstractism> yeah, it is
[05:20] <Tonren> abstractism: I actually have three computers within five feet of where I am this second, that I own.  Hehehe.
[05:20] <halitus> i have 4  :P
[05:20] <spades> i have 500
[05:21] <BlueEagle> hareem: Linux can replicate any and all features of the nt domain controller afaik. However I cannot guarantee that you will find a GUI for setting up everything.
[05:21] <SurfnKid> :D
[05:21] <abstractism> Tonren: I originally wanted a mac, windows, and linux machine, but finances and reality tell me that two computers is kinda enough.
[05:21] <Ares> Yeah, I just got booted.
[05:21] <siriusnova> anyone know how to recompile wpa supplicant :(
[05:21] <hareem> well i am ok with a command line version as well
[05:21] <Tonren> abstractism: Hehe, probably.
[05:21] <hareem> whats the name of the linux domain controller blue eagle
[05:21] <IdleOne> !wpa
[05:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:22] <SurfnKid> abstractism maybe 3 computers, 1 for radio listenin 1 for business and 1 for games :P
[05:22] <abstractism> they're both amd64 anyway
[05:22] <BlueEagle> hareem: samba and ldap should suffice for most implementations unless I am mistaking.
[05:22] <abstractism> eventually I'll get tired of PC gaming and install linux on that other one anyway
[05:22] <BlueEagle> hareem: The question is if using a samba network is "the right way"(tm) to go when you're on an all linux network.
[05:23] <halitus> oh hey how can i find my ip adress in ubuntu  anything simmilar to ipconfig /all??
[05:23] <hareem> so samba is the controller or is samba a file print sharing system
[05:23] <BlueEagle> hareem: Still it would be nice to offer wireless (or even wired) access for people with laptops and windows and in such a case samba and ldap would be fitting.
[05:23] <spades> halitus ifconfig
[05:23] <SurfnKid> where can i get information on modifying the way packets are sent in and out
[05:23] <hyphenated> halitus: ifconfig
[05:23] <abstractism> SurfnKid: hehe, a gamer
[05:23] <halitus> thank you
[05:23] <SurfnKid> yep
[05:24] <dad> does anyone know of a program that could convert from avi to gif?  all i've been able to find has been for windows
[05:24] <hareem> so how can i offer wifi authentication
[05:24] <BlueEagle> hareem: samba can do many things like being the master file/printer browser and replicationg an nt domain controller.
[05:24] <hareem> ok thats great
[05:24] <hareem> i will check up with some links to see how samba is setup. I have heard its a pain in the ***
[05:25] <tich> where would i find a list of ubuntu compatible (laser) printers?
[05:25] <technel> BlueEagle, How do I get it to re-generate the config file? I did "sudo grub-install /dev/sda1" but it didn't overwrite the file
[05:25] <kalosaurusrex> tich: http://hplip.sourceforge.net is a good start :)
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> tich:  HP 1100 work great
[05:25] <BlueEagle> hareem: That is another issue. What springs to my mind is to have the router that accepts wifi keep track of each connection in some way.
[05:25] <hareem> so how can i setup wifi service for my cafe
[05:25] <BlueEagle> technel: I am guessing: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub
[05:25] <spades> tich see whats on the cups compat list?
[05:25] <alindeman> I've just read over the Java wiki entry about installing the firefox plugin, but I cannot find a package named sun-java5-plugin ... am I missing something?
[05:26] <hareem> ok. so you know how to install chillispot on kubuntu
[05:26] <dad> does anyone know of a good video editor for ubuntu?
[05:26] <BlueEagle> hareem: Don't know of any packages that does that but I cannot see any reason for there not being such a piece of software.
[05:26] <spades> tich http://www.cups.org/ppd.php
[05:26] <BlueEagle> !info chillispot
[05:26] <ubotu> Package chillispot does not exist in dapper
[05:26] <abstractism> dad: you're not my dad!
[05:26] <hareem> altight thanks for the help
[05:26] <Travis|T60> How do I install Ubuntu Dapper Drake without writting to the MBR? I have a laptop with a recovery partition and if I modify the mbr it will get screwed up so I just want to put the boot data on a /boot partition and I will put it in my other bootloader
[05:26] <abstractism> hehe
[05:26] <dad> yes i know, its my account name
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[05:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Grub floppies
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> No floppy... boots to windows
[05:27] <Bot_Builder> dad - sadly, it seems like vid editing, general manipulation is severely lacking in linux
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> No one even knows there is another OS
[05:27] <dad> well all i want to do is convert a clip from avi to gif
[05:27] <tich> thanks all!
[05:27] <Tonren> Hey guys, how do you know when the new version of an app will hit the repositories?  I am aching for amaroK 1.4.1, but it seems like it hasn't hit the repos yet.
[05:27] <Bot_Builder> oh, well that you could probably do
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> Travis|T60: I think you can skip the Grub installation step...  I have one of those recovery partitions too, and installed Grub, then fixed the error so that it still works, so if you go that route, it is possible.
[05:28] <Ares> Bot_Builder: I remember one vid editing software that was amazing, but lacked a community and documentation and was like blender3d in terms of easy to use.
[05:28] <elknof1> does anyone knows whats the meaning if difussion gate??  its in advanced prefferences of ethernet...
[05:28] <dad> well I searched around and didn't find anything... but i'll try installing stuff and looking into the features
[05:28] <snoops> you could build it from source Tonren
[05:28] <Tonren> snoops: I know, I know.  But I'm lazy!  Besides, I built 1.4.0 from source and it crashed all the freaking time.
[05:29] <Bot_Builder> ares - huh, that's odd, if it was good i wonder why there wasn't a community
[05:29] <Bot_Builder> seems to me like its a rather large gap in the wall of linux killer apps
[05:29] <kitsuneofdoom> Ok, I have a Broadcom 5
[05:29] <Ares> Bot_Builder: It was new, and you would be surprised at how many projects are out there without communities.
[05:29] <Travis|T60> tonyyarusso I just need to make sure nothing touches the MBR because this laptop is a loaner so I can't screw it up
[05:29] <abstractism> eubey d00by whooooo
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> Travis|T60: Loaner from who?
[05:29] <Travis|T60> lenovo
[05:29] <Travis|T60> t60 thinkpad
[05:29] <kitsuneofdoom> Ok, I have a Broadcom 54g Wireless card. I've managed to find the windows driver. Now how the heck to I get a wireless internet connection?
[05:30] <kitsuneofdoom> I'm using ndiswrapper
[05:30] <SurfnKid> kitsuneofdoom breezy or Dapper
[05:30] <BlueEagle> hareem: you might be able to install the .deb files directly. Download it and try to install them.
[05:30] <BlueEagle> hareem: You will also need a radius server and a webserver apperantly.
[05:30] <Ares> Travis: If worse comes to worse you could get a recovery console cd and type fdisk /mbr [or fdisk \mbr]  I can't remember which.
[05:31] <hareem> this is for chillispot rite
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> fdisk /mbr is right
[05:31] <kitsuneofdoom> SurfnKid: Dapper. I should mention this in my intro...heh
[05:31] <Travis|T60> Ares that wouldn't work thought because the recovery partitions bootloader is in the mbr, but I guess I will take the risk
[05:31] <SurfnKid> oh
[05:31] <snoops> Travis|T60 you can make a backup of the mbr and restore it later
[05:31] <BlueEagle> hareem: yes.
[05:31] <Travis|T60> snoops how would I do this?
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> Travis|T60: Why is Lenovo loaning you a laptop?  Anyway, mine's a T43.  I'm trying to remember what your options are for skipping grub installation...you might need to use the Alternate CD and try to bypass it.
[05:32] <SurfnKid> kitsuneofdoom should have picked it up i guess as eth1, last time i installed,  try ndiswrapper if not the other way
[05:32] <hareem> yeah. i am going through the free radius setup. Man this is complicated
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Travis|T60: There is the ultimate boot cd ... google it
[05:32] <Fitzz> how do i paste in xterm? :p
[05:32] <SurfnKid> !bcmwl5
[05:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about bcmwl5
[05:32] <BlueEagle> hareem: http://www.chillispot.org/download/chillispot_1.0_ok_i386.deb would be the stable version afaik.
[05:32] <SurfnKid> !ndiswrapper
[05:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:32] <snoops> Travis|T60 from terminal.. "dd if=/dev/thehddhere of=/home/mbr.bak bs=512 count=1"
[05:32] <BlueEagle> hareem: notice that since these were buildt for debian they might not work on ubuntu but odds are that they will.
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Travis|T60: IT boots and has fdisk and many many other useful tools for partitioning and then some
[05:32] <SurfnKid> kitsuneofdoom try that
[05:32] <kitsuneofdoom> thanks
[05:32] <Travis|T60> tonyyarusso yeah I read about using the alternative cd, the laptop is being loaned for a review
[05:33] <BlueEagle> technel: any luck?
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> Travis|T60: The only thing that you can't do with grub installed to the MBR is use the Access IBM button to get at that function; you can still make a fully functional Grub menu item to boot it.
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> Travis|T60: Oh, cool.
[05:33] <Fitzz> !xterm
[05:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about xterm
[05:33] <Travis|T60> snoops gotcha
[05:33] <hareem> can i get freeradius of the repos
[05:33] <Ares> Jack_Sparrow: Does it have cfdisk? [Or was it sfdisk?]
[05:33] <SurfnKid> is anyone in the houston area?
[05:33] <BlueEagle> !info freeradius
[05:33] <ubotu> freeradius: a high-performance and highly configurable RADIUS server. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.1.0-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1343 kB, installed size 4252 kB
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> free-fdisk
[05:33] <BlueEagle> hareem: yes
[05:33] <Travis|T60> ok
[05:33] <hareem> i heard ubuntu is based on DEB. but maybe im wrong
[05:33] <mooseman447> hey
[05:33] <Travis|T60> well I'll play around
[05:33] <Travis|T60> later
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[05:33] <BlueEagle> hareem: it is
[05:34] <Ares> hareem: It's a fork.
[05:34] <snoops> Travis|T60 that'll backup the boot info as well as partition table. If you want to ignore the partition table change bs=512 to bs=446.. and to restore it "dd if=/home/mbr.bak bs=512 count=1" (if it's the 512 one, other wise change bs to 446)
[05:34] <hareem> fork ?
[05:34] <spades> split from it
[05:34] <spades> like a fork in the road causing you to turn
[05:34] <Bot_Builder> It would be really nice if nautilus would ask you for the root password (using gtksudo or whatever it was), when you try to do illegal ops
[05:34] <Ares> Hareem: It was forked [split]  off of the Debian tree.
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> Ares: Spoon!  Hehe.
[05:35] <snoops> whoops, that dd is totally out of whack
[05:35] <hareem> oh.. well in that case they should have kept some parent properties
[05:35] <hareem> oh well time will tell
[05:35] <BlueEagle> hareem: a fork in this term is when someone takes a base of something and continues to develop it in their own way regardless of what is done with the original software.
[05:35] <hareem> ok
[05:35] <Bot_Builder> branch is more of a cooperative thing
[05:35] <BlueEagle> hareem: it's one fo the blessings (or curses if you whish) of the open source world.
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> dd = dangerous in the wrong hands
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> snoops: I suggested a spec that the installation should allow for auto backup of the MBR (I think Suse has this).  Hopefully this will get simpler.
[05:35] <snoops> tonyyarusso cool beans
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> Ares: (See Mark Shuttleworth's personal page on the wiki)
[05:36] <HighHopes> Hello! I need help... Is it possible to change default text-mode from 80x25 to (e.g.) 132x50 characters? ...
[05:36] <Ares> Tony: Is it another recursive antonym or whatever? Last time someone explained G.N.U. I went into a six month coma.
[05:37] <Gareth1> hah like WINE Ares?
[05:37] <snoops> anyone have any idea how I can bind mouse buttons to mouse buttons?
[05:37] <Ares> Gareth1: Don't be evil. DONT BE EVIL
[05:37] <NickGarvey> would patching your kernel be better than recompiling it?
[05:37] <kalosaurusrex> hareem: ubuntu is based on debian.  and uses deb packages.
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> Ares: Na, it's his response to "Is Ubuntu a fork of Debian?"  "Yes, no, it's a spoon, maybe" or something like that.
[05:37] <BlueEagle> nickgarvey: patching a kernel implies compiling it.
[05:37] <Ares> Tony: Lol, I get it =P
[05:37] <wweasel> I'd like to make my Desktop folder in another location, as in not ~/Desktop. How would I do that?
[05:37] <NickGarvey> BlueEagle: so whats the difference between getting the kernel source and the patch?
[05:38] <hareem> ok
[05:38] <hareem> good
[05:38] <Gareth1> NickGarvey, it's not patching in the windows sense, it's basically adding some modifications to the linux source before compiling
[05:38] <Bot_Builder> wweasel - have you tried a symbolic link?
[05:38] <BlueEagle> nickgarvey: 1st you get the kernel source then you get the patch then you merge the patch with the kernel source then you compile the pathced source.
[05:38] <NickGarvey> Gareth1: ah.. so I can just compile a new one if I am lazy?
[05:38] <SurfnKid> question
[05:38] <BlueEagle> answer
[05:38] <hareem> listen i used the repos to install ldap and freeradius
[05:38] <Gareth1> NickGarvey, yes
[05:38] <SurfnKid> how can i compile my kernel to have APM support
[05:38] <Ares> Bot_Builder: Can you explain a sym link, I hear it, I hear its wonderful, I have no idea what or how to use it
[05:38] <NickGarvey> Gareth1: ok, thank you
[05:38] <hareem> how can i manage them
[05:38] <SurfnKid> :P
[05:39] <wweasel> Bot_Builder: I just made one. It worked, but no icons appear on my desktop. If I go into my home folder and click the symbolic link it brings me to the right place. Perhaps I should restart X?
[05:39] <NickGarvey> Ares: man ln
[05:39] <Ares> Nick: Roger.
[05:39] <NickGarvey> Ares: actually, the man file isn't that good
[05:39] <Ares> Nick: Info better?
[05:39] <Bot_Builder> wweasel - yeah, restart nautilus or X
[05:40] <wweasel> alright
[05:40] <NickGarvey> Ares: a sym link acts like the file you link too, but unlike a hard link, when you delete the original file, a sym link won't work
[05:40] <wweasel> btw, how do I exit a man page?
[05:40] <NickGarvey> Ares: its a link to the reference, instead of a copy of the reference
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Symlink = Windows Shortcut
[05:40] <ardchoille> wweasel: press the "q" key
[05:40] <Fitzz> wweasel, "q"
[05:40] <Bot_Builder> Ares - yeah, i used one the first time today - its like a windows shortcut but kicks more ass
[05:40] <Ares> Nick: So its basically every single href link?
[05:40] <wweasel> brilliant. Bot_Builder: brb, restarting x
[05:40] <Gareth1> heh Ares if you want something really bad, check out the HURD acronym meaning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Hurd
[05:40] <Ares> Nick: like*
[05:40] <NickGarvey> Ares: um.. yes pretty much
[05:41] <Ares> Nick: Sorry, I'm very crude.
[05:41] <Bot_Builder> Ares - the difference is that to a program on linux the file is actually whatever it points at
[05:41] <FatchaMaCallitz> sorry guys.. can I ask a quick question?
[05:41] <BlueEagle> ares: a symlink (symbolic link) is a "shortcut" to another file somewhere else in the filesystem. It is used by issuing the ln command to create the symlink.
[05:41] <chariscomp> Hello, I am having a problem when attempting to install xubuntu. I am using the alternate install CD. When I get to the section of the installation that deals with partitioning, I am attempting to use the software RAID and setup RAID 1 mirrors of all partitions. However, once I have created my partitions and marked them as physical volume for RAID and choose Setup RAID, the setup seems to...
[05:41] <chariscomp> ...hang. Does any one have any suggestions on how to get it past this point? Thanks for any help. If this is not the right place to ask this, please tell me where to ask this question.
[05:41] <wheelswitch> is there a way i can open up a program in a different workspace from the command line?
[05:41] <Bot_Builder> So you can read to/from a symbolic link, and it is the data that is in the file it links to
[05:42] <BlueEagle> chariscomp: you can also try #xubuntu
[05:42] <Ares> Bot: Explain that again, I didn't get it.
[05:42] <Fitzz> what is the key to paste to xterm?
[05:42] <Ares> Bot: Like... is the best Windows reference a "short-cut" or whatever?
[05:42] <chariscomp> ok, I'll try that. Thanks, BlueEagle!
[05:42] <BlueEagle> chariscomp: but thankyou for taking time to formulating your question so thuroughly. I am sorry I do not know the answer for you. :)
[05:42] <FatchaMaCallitz> I've installed Ubuntu, however when I try to boot from HD, my screen is spammed with the word grub (i know its the bootloader)
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> SHift ctrl-v?
[05:43] <spades> shift
[05:43] <spades> shift+insert *
[05:43] <Fitzz> yeah Jack_Sparrow ... it does work on gnome-terminal but not in xterm
[05:43] <wweasel> Well, it worked. I am very happy. Now Linux and Windows share both Firefox and Thunderbird profiles and Desktops.
[05:43] <Bot_Builder> Ares: In windows, if you had a shortcut to a text file, and opened it in notepad, you'd get the shortcut data - some format that stores the location of the file it links to.  In linux, any program that accesses a symbolic link will get the data of the file it links to
[05:43] <BlueEagle> fatchamacallitz: This is in most cases due to a failed installation of grub. Often caused by the 2nd stage not being found where grub expects it to be.
[05:43] <Fitzz> oh yeah.. totally forgot that one.. thanks spades !
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> I switched to Knoversation, I couldn't take X-term
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Kon
[05:43] <darkyoshi372> My status thingy (whatever the system tray is called) is messed up. Sometimes an icon or two disappear, leaving a permanent space until I refresh the panel, and the limewire/frostwire icons are always squished. What's going on?
[05:44] <Bot_Builder> Also, I think that symbolic links are updated when you move the destination around, but i'm not sure
[05:44] <BlueEagle> fatchamacallitz: What you need to do is to boot from you CD and mount the partition containing /boot (either a separate partition or it's on your / partition)
[05:44] <Ares> Bot: So if I open up... lets say an icon that sym links to menu.lst it would have menu.lst's information?
[05:44] <BlueEagle> fatchamacallitz: then get your menu.lst file and post it to pastebin
[05:44] <FatchaMaCallitz> sorry blue
[05:44] <FatchaMaCallitz> i'm a linux noob
[05:45] <BlueEagle> fatchamacallitz: you will find an IRC client on the live cd and alternate cd (xchat or irssi if I remember correctly)
[05:45] <Ares> Fatacha: 500 of the people in this room probably are.
[05:45] <FatchaMaCallitz> ok i'm in windows right now.. brb ima run to my linux box
[05:45] <FatchaMaCallitz> kk?
[05:45] <BlueEagle> fatchamacallitz: ok. First up: Are you using the live cd or the alternate install cd?
[05:45] <FatchaMaCallitz> its a live boot
[05:45] <Bot_Builder> Ares - yep, and the program would think it was reading and writing to the sym link file, but really its not, the reading/writing is being forwarded through it.  Its like an internet proxy
[05:45] <hayden> anyone help me with my monitor, i am dual booting with windows with a 17inch crt 1280x1024 60hz, and when i change from windows the screen is not in the right place an i have to manually center the screen properly in ubuntu, is there a way to resolve this?
[05:45] <BlueEagle> fatchamacallitz: ok. Boot up the live cd and start an IRC client. xchat or irssi will do. Then connect here.
[05:46] <FatchaMaCallitz> righto, gimmie 3 min.. brb as Fatcha2
[05:46] <kane_> Hi, im using ubuntu dapper, with madwifi and my connection seems to drop pretty often, when this happens i am unable to start it back up w/o a reboot, using kwireless assistant it says it appears an external switch has been turned off...
[05:46] <kane_> any idea?
[05:46] <technel> How do I rename files in linux from cmd line? "rename old new" always gives an error
[05:46] <abstractism> for hayden's problem, I think that might be in xorg.conf
[05:46] <FunnyLookinHat> kane_, do you use network-manager
[05:46] <BlueEagle> hayden: You might be running a different resolution/refresh rate in linux. If you've got an on-screen display on your monitor you will probably find the current vertical refresh rate (vsync) in th emenu.
[05:46] <FunnyLookinHat> That could fix it...
[05:47] <BlueEagle> the menu*
[05:47] <snoops> technel mv old new
[05:47] <StickyBit> technel: mv oldname newname
[05:47] <technel> BlueEagle, So at this point, what do you think I should do?
[05:47] <abstractism> I never had that problem since I have LCDs
[05:47] <technel> ah, thanks
[05:47] <BlueEagle> technel: not dualboot with windows? :p
[05:47] <Ares> How do I exit a man page again?  Thanks.
[05:47] <Shigun> I am having an issue with flash, where it will play a couple of seconds, then just stop.  Anybody experienced it/know how to fix it/have a recommendation?
[05:48] <StickyBit> Ares: when in doubt ctrl+c kills a process
[05:48] <technel> BlueEagle, I went through every BIOS page, I never saw that thing you were talking about
[05:48] <BlueEagle> technel: One alternative is to set up lilo. There you have got a lower level control of which harddrive uses what. However it's very very very easy to bork your system with lilo.
[05:48] <Smoxie> hey all. i just downloaded the latest ubuntu release and am installing it on my new laptop. i go 'start or install ubuntu', it goes through a few screens, but when it gets up to the actual install part (it plays the welcome sound), the screen goes black and nothing seems to happen. im guessing this is bad resolution settings, so anyone any idea how to fix?
[05:48] <NickGarvey> when I update my kernel, what might break? I know my wireless ndiswrapper driver will, anything else?
[05:48] <Ares> What was the logic in Ctrl-C? :\
[05:48] <NickGarvey> Ares: I know?! copy = break!?
[05:48] <Ares> Nick: I don't get it, but I'm laughing either way.
[05:49] <NickGarvey> heh yeah
[05:49] <BlueEagle> smoxie: are you able to press CTRL+ALT+F1 to get a console?
[05:49] <spades> Ares hes referring to windows copy being ctrl+c
[05:49] <Smoxie> BlueEagle: yes
[05:49] <Ares> Spades: Yeah, =P
[05:49] <BlueEagle> smoxie: try the command: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:49] <kane_> FunnyHat-Away, aye
[05:49] <Ares> Spades: Maybe the guy who did that shortcut was using the key placement of dvorak.
[05:50] <NickGarvey> Ares: c in qwerty is j in dvorak
[05:50] <Ares> Spades: He's only one off of K.
[05:50] <NickGarvey> Ares: and c in dvorak is i in qwerty
[05:50] <NickGarvey> aoeu ;)
[05:50] <wheelswitch> my ubuntu menu takes up too much space!, is there an easy way to change it? |Applications Places System|
[05:50] <Ares> Nick: Yep =) How do you know :O
[05:50] <BlueEagle> smoxie: any luck?
[05:50] <Bot_Builder> hmm, yeah i never thought about ctrl-C being odd.  It works as copy in most linux apps as well
[05:50] <StickyBit> ctrl+ c = cancel
[05:50] <NickGarvey> Ares: aoeuidhtns heh
[05:51] <Ares> Nick: Heh, I can only use the home row so far. :O
[05:51] <Smoxie> BlueEagle: stopping=ok, starting=fail
[05:51] <NickGarvey> Ares: oh I type with it normally
[05:51] <NickGarvey> Ares: works fine for me
[05:51] <NickGarvey> Ares: not sure how many wpm I type, but its pretty good, faster than most people for sure
[05:51] <BlueEagle> smoxie: I see. Have you tried enabling VGA safe mode when you boot?
[05:51] <Ares> Nick: Same here, I'm just not nearly as fast yet.
[05:52] <Shigun> Actually, flash is gimping everything now.  Causing my browser to freeze up.  Thoughts, anybody?
[05:52] <Ares> Nick: Damn, I'll give you a wpm checker when I can.
[05:52] <Smoxie> BlueEagle: no, but i shall. i trust its a menu option? ;o
[05:52] <NickGarvey> Ares: heh, I went from 70~ wpm in qwerty to dvorak though, HARD change
[05:52] <BlueEagle> smoxie: Yes, it's F4 or something on the boot screen.
[05:52] <Ares> Nick: I'm 120 in QWERTY
[05:52] <BlueEagle> smoxie: it should be listed at the bottom
[05:52] <Bot_Builder> NickGarvey - judging by your message times you type damn fast
[05:52] <NickGarvey> Ares: wow.. is that possible?
[05:52] <Ares> Nick: As long as I don't have to use any ,'s.
[05:52] <Smoxie> BlueEagle: ok thanks, i'll try that, bbs ^^
[05:52] <NickGarvey> Ares: 120... wpm.. or cpm...
[05:52] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: ;)
[05:53] <Ares> Nick: wpm.
[05:53] <Bot_Builder> I'm not going to learn dvorak though - then you can't use normal keyboards as well
[05:53] <Shigun> Nick: Its easily possible, I get around 116 WPM
[05:53] <BlueEagle> bot_builder: you :ca
[05:53] <snoops> Bot_Builder you can
[05:53] <NickGarvey> Shigun: naw...
[05:53] <Bot_Builder> hmm
[05:53] <BlueEagle> _can_ use qwerty after learning dvorak but it's not fun at all.
[05:53] <Ares> Bot: When you use Linux, you can't use Windows as well =P
[05:53] <Shigun> lol
[05:53] <snoops> I learnt dvorak awhile ago.. but it's a bit of a pain switching back and forth..
[05:53] <NickGarvey> Shigun: I mena I typed 70~ when I was 13.. but.. I don't see hitting 120 anytime..
[05:53] <NickGarvey> snoops: why do you need to switch back and forth?
[05:53] <snoops> memorised the home row for dvorak actually
[05:54] <Ares> I'm 14 and I got 120 wpm.
[05:54] <Shigun> Nick: Why not?
[05:54] <snoops> aoeuidhtns
[05:54] <Shigun> Anybody have a thought on this flash issue?
[05:54] <Ares> I memorised the home row to, I know the p g c r and y keys for upper row. Thats it.
[05:54] <snoops> NickGarvey because everyone else doesn't use dvorak
[05:54] <NickGarvey> snoops: so...?
[05:54] <Fatcha2> blue, ares.. back
[05:54] <StickyBit> Shigun: is it temporary or permanent?
[05:54] <BlueEagle> shigun: I've got lots of thoughts on flash and various issues with it but unfortunately none of them will help you with your problem. :)
[05:54] <Bot_Builder> NickGarvey: so, what if you use someone else's computer?
[05:54] <NickGarvey> Ares: over 3 minutes? I mean I hit 120 in a 12 second sprint.. but..
[05:55] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: linux or windows?
[05:55] <Fatcha2> ho-kay, blueeagle.. what did you want me to do?
[05:55] <snoops> so.. I'm not a recluse. I go around to peoples places, end up helping them with pc probs, and don't want to stuff around with remapping keys or gosh taking a keyboard with me
[05:55] <Ares> Oh, three minutes, Probably around 80 then.
[05:55] <Shigun> StickyBit: I can close FF, open it again, and it does the same thing
[05:55] <Ares> =P
[05:55] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: in linux, "setxkbmap dvorak"
[05:55] <Ares> I can do iono, a page of random babbling in 120wpm [Aim style]
[05:55] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: I really don't remember. What was the problem again?
[05:55] <Bot_Builder> yeah, then you'll forget to switch it back and they'll have a messed up keyboard
[05:55] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: in windows, control panel > regional/language settings > something something...
[05:55] <Bot_Builder> probably go to the store and buy another
[05:55] <snoops> at work we have a lot of pcs.. I can bind my one to dvorak, but when I have to use another, which I do, then I need to switch back.. the world can't change for me
[05:55] <Bot_Builder> (I know it doesn't switch the keyboard actually)
[05:55] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: don't forget to switch it back!
[05:55] <Bot_Builder> but people might think it would
[05:56] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: although, this program "autohotkey" can remap it for you
[05:56] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: grub fails to install.. and when i boot my screen is spammed with GRUBGRUBGRUBGRUB
[05:56] <Ares> The worst thing so far is when I was playing Warcraft and it switched. My friend and I couldn't talk anymore. I'm like AOEU! AOEU!
[05:56] <Bot_Builder> nah, it's a hassle.  I can type as fast as I can think
[05:56] <StickyBit> Shigun: well in my experience flash on linux doesn't work very well in general. It's v7 and they just released v9. never had much luck with tht eplugin
[05:56] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: Ahh, yes.
[05:56] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: When you installed ubuntu did you choose a separate partition for /boot?
[05:57] <Bot_Builder> someone needs to make a programmer keyboard layout
[05:57] <StickyBit> Shigun: you could try deleting all your broswer cache and reinstalling the plugin
[05:57] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: I saw one once
[05:57] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: I made a swap partition and a / partion.. 2 parts total one ext3 and one swap
[05:57] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: Do you remember which partition is your root (/) partition?
[05:57] <Shigun> StickyBit: Did that
[05:57] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: ie /dev/hda5 or something
[05:57] <Fatcha2> hda1
[05:57] <Bot_Builder> NickGarvey: ooh, cool.  Symbol keys with no shift pressage :O
[05:57] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: hda1
[05:57] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: ok. please open a terminal window
[05:57] <Fatcha2> lol k
[05:57] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[05:57] <snoops> Bot_Builder someone did.. it was a called a touchstream lp, developed by fingerworks
[05:58] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: cd /mnt/boot
[05:58] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: you colud make one if you wanted
[05:58] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: you have a bunch of keymap files
[05:58] <StickyBit> Shigun: does it work well in your other broswers?
[05:58] <BlueEagle> gedit menu.lst
[05:58] <snoops> the company was bought, and a conspiracy is around who bought it - the concensus seems to be apple
[05:58] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: you can edit them pretty easy
[05:58] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: only root can do that >.<
[05:58] <Shigun> StickyBit: No other browsers
[05:58] <Ares> Does the away thing work?
[05:58] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: after which command?
[05:58] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: after mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[05:58] <Bot_Builder> nick - heh, yeah, but then I'd be even more screwed than if I just learned dvorak
[05:58] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt   <= that one?
[05:59] <NickGarvey> Bot_Builder: heh true
[05:59] <_with_a_y> kinda off topic but does anyone know how to create the newer, glassy-looking icons?  i'm not really a GIMP/Photoshop expert.
[05:59] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: did you remember "sudo"?
[05:59] <Ares> With: Check out gimptalk.
[05:59] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: oooh I thought you meant "so do"
[05:59] <] GoldenDragon> how do i find the device name of my keyboard(i dunno what its called.. should look like... " /dev/input/js0 "
[05:59] <Fatcha2> <<like I said.. noob
[05:59] <Shigun> Stickybit: Got it.  ln -s /tmp/.esd-1000 /tmp/.esd
[05:59] <_with_a_y> ares:  thanks.
[05:59] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: hehe :)
[05:59] <Bot_Builder> would be interesting to do keyboard analysis like what was used to create dvorak, only with code in various languages as data on frequency
[05:59] <StickyBit> Shigun: well i haven't experienced your problem, so i'm just guessing, but you could try to install another broswer and see if you get the same results (opera, konquer) if you do it's firefox
[05:59] <Ares> With: Not sure though, just check it out.
[06:00] <StickyBit> Shigun: cool.
[06:00] <foofoooo> does neone know how to  SAAFELY dual  boot windows  xp  & ubuntu ?   (i    tried the ubuntu boot loader with badger  with terrible results)
[06:00] <foofoooo> does neone know how to  SAAFELY dual  boot windows  xp  & ubuntu ?   (i    tried the ubuntu boot loader with badger  with terrible results)
[06:00] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: ok.. done.. i'm in the mnt dir
[06:00] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: gedit menu.lst
[06:00] <Ares> Bot: I remember seeing documentation on a QWERTY vs Dvorak battle. It was a computer algorithm making the "best" computer keyboard due to multiple peoples user inputs. The computer couldn't come up with a better Dvorak layout.
[06:00] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: now open a webbrowser and head to the pastebin site that ubotu sais
[06:00] <BlueEagle> !pastebin
[06:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:01] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: ok.. i'm at a blank doc
[06:01] <BlueEagle> you've got a blank doc?
[06:01] <jme> Is there a good way to identify the generic wireless card I'm using in my laptop?
[06:01] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: totally blank
[06:01] <BlueEagle> that's weird
[06:01] <BlueEagle> :(
[06:01] <Ares> Foo: I'm using XP and Ubuntu safely.
[06:01] <Bot_Builder> Ares - well, dvorak is undoubtadly better
[06:01] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: however that will explain the error. :)
[06:01] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: >.<
[06:01] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: no, wait. My bad.
[06:01] <johanbr> jme: lspci
[06:01] <BlueEagle> close the gedit window
[06:01] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: righto
[06:01] <Bot_Builder> QWERTY was actually designed to slow you down, unless thats just  an urban legend
[06:01] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: gedit grub/menu.lst
[06:02] <BlueEagle> that should help
[06:02] <Ares> Bot: Yeah, thats what I hear.
[06:02] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: right sec
[06:02] <BlueEagle> oh wait. You're in the /mnt directory?
[06:02] <Bot_Builder> But it's plenty fast for me
[06:02] <Ares> The only problem right now, when I use QWERTY is that I pound my keyboard to peaces.
[06:02] <foofoooo> does neone know how to  SAAFELY dual  boot windows  xp  & ubuntu ?   (i    tried the ubuntu boot loader with badger  with terrible results)
[06:02] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: make that: gedit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:02] <Ares> Foo, yes.  It was designed so certain key combinations weren't together so the OLD typewriter keys would not lock up when you pressed two commonly used keys together in quick succession
[06:02] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: rofl k
[06:02] <BlueEagle> :)
[06:02] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: Don't worry. I know exactly what I'm doing. :p
[06:02] <Ares> Snoops: Wouldn't that be slowing you down?
[06:02] <Bot_Builder> snoops - ah
[06:03] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: AAH! woot! Text!
[06:03] <Bot_Builder> yeah, i think it would :P
[06:03] <snoops> Ares the result slowed you down, but it wasn't designed to slow you down
[06:03] <Ares> Snoops: Now you are just messing with me.
[06:03] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: Goodie. Now open a browser and head to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:03] <snoops> it was designed around the mechanical issues of the typewriter
[06:03] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: kk sec
[06:03] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: and copy the text from the gedit window and into pastebin then hand us the url
[06:04] <Ares> Snoops: Ok. You win, I don't want a flame battle raging so soon.
[06:04] <snoops> when dvorak came out it was known to be far better, but the cost was close to a month's salary back then
[06:04] <jme> johanbr, I don't believe lspci displays pcmcia devices
[06:04] <foofoooo> can  someone help me with dual booting  ubuntu?
[06:04] <Ares> Foo: Yes, if you ask a questian.
[06:04] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17140
[06:04] <s34n> Will 6.06 live CD boot with 128M RAM?
[06:04] <jme> s34n, I'd recommend the alternate install CD
[06:04] <johanbr> jme: Oh, it's pcmcia... maybe "dmesg |tail" just after you plug in the card.
[06:05] <Ares> S34n: Probably. Though I suggest getting a different window manager.
[06:05] <] GoldenDragon> how do i find the device name of my keyboard(i dunno what its called.. should look like... " /dev/input/js0 "
[06:05] <ic56> ] GoldenDragon: are you sure you don't want /dev/tty ?
[06:05] <s34n> I've tried a laptop and a PC, both with 128M, and both boot eternally (as in I quit after multiple hours)
[06:06] <] GoldenDragon> hmm, i'll try, what is tty supposed to be?
[06:06] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: on the command line (you might need to open a new terminal or new tab): ls /mnt/boot/vmlinux-2.6.15-23*
[06:06] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: does that give you anything?
[06:06] <ic56> ] GoldenDragon: what are you trying to accomplish?
[06:06] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: sec.. lemme give that a shot
[06:06] <foofoooo> can  i connect to  my existing subversion respository which is   currently on a  windows   box &  shared over a local network?
[06:07] <] GoldenDragon> umm, i'm trying to configure the OmniJoy plugin for pcsx but when setting the keys it says "error opening device dev/input/js0 please double check yourself!"
[06:07] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: no such file or dir..
[06:07] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: oh, really?
[06:07] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: ja
[06:07] <abstractism> wrong
[06:07] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: ls /mnt/boot   <= does that show anything that looks like vmlinuz at all?
[06:07] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: sec
[06:08] <abstractism> Fatcha2: the correct answer was ya rly
[06:08] <abstractism> hehe ;)
[06:08] <BlueEagle> abstractism: o'rly?
[06:08] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386
[06:08] <abstractism> ya rly!
[06:08] <ic56> ] GoldenDragon: hang on, checking something
[06:08] <Fatcha2> rofl i hear my hd on my lappy chruning away
[06:08] <] GoldenDragon> k
[06:08] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: ahh, my typo. :)
[06:08] <jme> johanbr, that worked
[06:09] <Fatcha2> i'm installing a very light kde distro
[06:09] <jme> at least, it got the chipset, which should be enough...
[06:09] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: Well then that's not the issue there.
[06:09] <Fatcha2> rofl
[06:09] <ToHellWithGA> how can i use alias to make a long command shorter?
[06:09] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: now wait.. what are you refering to?
[06:09] <jme> !bash
[06:09] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:09] <ToHellWithGA> thanks jme
[06:09] <BlueEagle> tohellwithga: alias shortcommad="longcommadn --with-options"
[06:09] <jme> well, that's not quite it
[06:09] <ToHellWithGA> thanks BlueEagle as well
[06:10] <johanbr> jme: Ok, cool. Now you just have to find the proper driver. :)
[06:10] <jme> ToHellWithGA, you'll want to put the alias in your ~/.bashrc file
[06:10] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: I am refering to the fact hhat it's 6:14 am and I'm typing "vmlinux" instead of "vmlinuz" :)
[06:10] <jme> johanbr, it's an atmel-based card
[06:10] <jme> fortunately it has an OSS driver, but the card itself is garbage!
[06:10] <mouse> Is there any way to fastswitch tabs, like ctrl+tab in windows?
[06:10] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: aah lol, ho-kay.. so can we continue? Please continue helping the noob
[06:10] <jme> I want to try to update the firmware...
[06:10] <abstractism> BlueEagle: are you in europe or asia?
[06:11] <Fatcha2> mouse.. alt-tab?
[06:11] <] GoldenDragon> mouse alt+tab works,
[06:11] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: I am attempting to think here. :)
[06:11] <ToHellWithGA> thanks jme
[06:11] <BlueEagle> abstractism: Norway. GMT+1
[06:11] <mouse> Those both change open windows, not open tabs
[06:11] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: yea.. thats kinda hard lol
[06:11] <abstractism> BlueEagle: neat :)
[06:11] <BlueEagle> abstractism: That's a question of definition. :)
[06:11] <Fatcha2> i think this is the most positive irc i've ever been in
[06:11] <] GoldenDragon> ctrl tab is working to change tabs here(atleast in GAIM)
[06:11] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: ok, close your browser and your gedit window.
[06:11] <Ares> Hmm, anyone know of any hardening Ubuntu guides?
[06:12] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: rgr
[06:12] <] GoldenDragon> its also working in firefox
[06:12] <abstractism> texas, USA; GMT-6
[06:12] <johanbr> jme: I don't know anything about atmel specifically, but firmware is usually extracted from the windows drivers in one way or another.
[06:12] <mouse> ] GoldenDragon, , Sadly not in xchat or the majority of tabbed things in icewm
[06:12] <ToHellWithGA> jme: i don't have a ~/.bashrc file
[06:12] <Ares> No point in running Linux if you don't get paranoid with security after all =)
[06:12] <s34n> what are the recommended specs for dapper?
[06:12] <ToHellWithGA> should i just make one with vi with my alias in it?
[06:12] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: done, back at the console
[06:12] <jme> ToHellWithGA, you presumably due, but it's hidden
[06:12] <mouse> alt+1 etc seem to work for xchat, I will try it in icepref real quick
[06:12] <jme> try 'ls -A' in your home directory
[06:12] <ToHellWithGA> vi ~/.bashrc gave me an empty file
[06:12] <Ares> s34n: Your only problem is your ram I think, 128 is a little low for Gnome, maybe a lighter Window Manager?
[06:12] <navid> Sorry guys, I know this is the Ubuntu IRC but I got a problem with Kubuntu.
[06:12] <navid> I installed ubuntu but then changed my mind and installed the kubuntu-desktop and uninstalled ubuntu thoroughly. Now I can't have kdm as my display manager and every time I boot the computer it reaches runlevel 4 and then I have to type " startx ". Any way to set KDM as my display manager?
[06:13] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: on the commandprompt: sudo mount --bind /proc/ /mnt/proc && sudo chroot /mnt/
[06:13] <jme> johanbr, it's a native driver: http://atmelwlandriver.sourceforge.net/ -- but it doesn't support the full wireless extensions
[06:13] <ic56> ] GoldenDragon: /dev/tty is for higher level work.  Sounds like you really do need that device.  My Debian system indeed has a /dev/input/js0 . My Ubuntu system (5.10) doesn't, though that directory in Ubuntu does contain the other devices like event0, mouse0, etc.  I see a /dev/input/ts0 in my ubuntu system.  No idea what it does, but it doesn't exist on my Debian system.  See if you have something like that.  It might be
[06:13] <mouse> Darn, alt+2 didnt work in icepref or iceconf
[06:13] <j1p> is there a way with wget to just download all files of a certain file extension in a directory?
[06:13] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: that should (in theory) put you with a shell prompt in the installed environment.
[06:13] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: oooh... root
[06:13] <s34n> Ares: I'm downloading the alternate iso now
[06:13] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: yuuummy
[06:13] <johanbr> jme: But upgrading the firmware won't help you with the wireless extensions. Or am I missing something?
[06:13] <jme> ToHellWithGA, you're not running a weird custom install, or running as root...?
[06:13] <] GoldenDragon> hmm... i'll look
[06:13] <ToHellWithGA> i am not
[06:13] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: now: grub
[06:13] <jme> well, the card might suck less!
[06:14] <Ares> s34n: Think you need to get the alternate Ubuntu cd with that other manager.
[06:14] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: that should give you the grub cli.
[06:14] <ToHellWithGA> i see /etc/bash.bashrc when doing a search
[06:14] <ToHellWithGA> is that the right file?
[06:14] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: yep
[06:14] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: now I need to loop up the commands for you. :)
[06:14] <johanbr> jme: That's possible, but extensions support lies in the driver, not in the firmware.
[06:14] <jme> ToHellWithGA,  try 'find / -name .bashrc'
[06:14] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: that went right above my head.. do what now?
[06:14] <Ares> S34n: I think Xubuntu would be the one.
[06:14] <jme> it woud be darn weird, because Ubuntu defaults with a custom bash
[06:15] <axisys> how do I open a .doc file that is written in bengali ?
[06:15] <anarchtic> someone give me the info about lamp
[06:15] <Ares> S34n: http://www.xubuntu.org/
[06:15] <Ares> !info lamp
[06:15] <ubotu> Package lamp does not exist in dapper
[06:15] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: root (hd0,0)
[06:15] <Ares> Darn.
[06:15] <anarchtic> k
[06:15] <ToHellWithGA> jme: i'm getting "/etc/skel/.bashrc" and "/root/.bashrc"
[06:15] <] GoldenDragon> ehh, its late i'll work on it tommorow
[06:15] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: setup (hd0)
[06:15] <anarchtic> !info lamp
[06:15] <ubotu> Package lamp does not exist in dapper
[06:15] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: wait
[06:15] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: errors?
[06:15] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: selected disk does not exist
[06:15] <ToHellWithGA> !lamp
[06:15] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:15] <jme> well, at any rate, you can make your own ~/.bashrc to customize Bash
[06:15] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: Oh, really?
[06:15] <anarchtic> thx
[06:15] <Ares> ToHellWithGA: Nice.
[06:15] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: hd1 perhaps?
[06:16] <ToHellWithGA> yall are so crazy about knowing when to use and not use !info
[06:16] <ic56> ] GoldenDragon: ok. goodnight!
[06:16] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: try this instead then: find /boot/grub/stage1
[06:16] <ToHellWithGA> thanks jme
[06:16] <axisys> the fonts are all garbage.. i need to be able to convert them in bengali font in openoffic before i can read it
[06:16] <boitano> Firefox is extremely unstable on my dapper box, are there any known issues? I have used automatix in the past
[06:16] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: from grub gli or from console
[06:16] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: from grub
[06:16] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: righto, sec
[06:16] <Amaranth> ToHellWithGA: !info is for looking up packages
[06:16] <Amaranth> !info alacarte
[06:16] <ubotu> alacarte: easy menu editing. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.8-0ubuntu12 (dapper), package size 57 kB, installed size 472 kB
[06:16] <Ares> boitano: Have you tried #Firefox on irc.mozilla.org [or something, I can't remember]
[06:16] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: error, file is not found
[06:17] <BlueEagle> oh really?
[06:17] <Fatcha2> yes really
[06:17] <ToHellWithGA> listen to Amaranth to figure out how to use ubotu :D
[06:17] <NickGarvey> !info linux-sources
[06:17] <ubotu> Package linux-sources does not exist in dapper
[06:17] <IdleOne> !tell boitano about automatix
[06:17] <ToHellWithGA> !info quodlibet
[06:17] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: quit
[06:17] <ubotu> quodlibet: audio library manager and player for GTK+. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.18-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 128 kB
[06:18] <Amaranth> !info linux-source-2.6.15
[06:18] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.15: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-25.43 (dapper), package size 43417 kB, installed size 43556 kB
[06:18] <Amaranth> whee
[06:18] <ToHellWithGA> kewl
[06:18] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: done
[06:18] <jme> !abuse
[06:18] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:18] <jme> wait, nm
[06:18] <imarung> hi all.. i installed wxPython from source.. now i am able to import wx from inside the wxPython directory but when I import from elsewhere it reports error saying missing.. any ideas
[06:18] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: ls /boot
[06:18] <Amaranth> jme: :P
[06:18] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: ls /boot/grub/
[06:18] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: do you see a file named stage1 anywhere?
[06:18] <Amaranth> jme: I'll stop. :)
[06:18] <NickGarvey> imarung: add it to your path file
[06:18] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: yep
[06:18] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: in /boot or in /boot grub?
[06:18] <Amaranth> kinda slow in here though
[06:19] <BlueEagle> /boot/grub*
[06:19] <imarung> NickGarvey: did that..
[06:19] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: grub
[06:19] <NickGarvey> imarung: no idea then :)
[06:19] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: oh really?
[06:19] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: no, not really
[06:19] <BlueEagle> no?
[06:19] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: ROFL, dude i'm kidding, its int /boot/grub
[06:19] <BlueEagle> :)
[06:20] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: pwd
[06:20] <abstractism> BlueEagle: ya rly! ;)
[06:20] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: term returns /
[06:20] <BlueEagle> abstractism: @@:)  <= the roflm smiley
[06:20] <abstractism> and/or no wai!
[06:20] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: oh? I see.
[06:20] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: do i need to cd to grub?
[06:20] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: whoami
[06:21] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: root
[06:21] <NickGarvey> BlueEagle: you are BlueEagle
[06:21] <BlueEagle> nickgarvey: haha
[06:21] <Fatcha2> rofl
[06:21] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: weird.
[06:21] <abstractism>  hehe
[06:21] <imarung> how do i remove a software that i installed from source
[06:21] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: grub
[06:21] <jme> Whee, found the firmware I need! http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/atmel-firmware
[06:21] <BlueEagle> imarung: make uninstall or make clean usually
[06:21] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: find /boot/grub/stage1
[06:21] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: i love you just throwing term commands at me
[06:22] <abstractism> oh, another internet romance blossoms
[06:22] <SurfnKid> anyone recommend a good usb adapter chip
[06:22] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: error 15: file not found
[06:22] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: I am not throwing them. Term commands are fragile so I am gently handing them over. :p
[06:22] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: lol should be 404
[06:22] <SurfnKid> easy to connect to without going thru kernel compilation etc
[06:22] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: btw, good one
[06:22] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: ok, this I do not understand. :(
[06:23] <SurfnKid> usb wifi adapter that is..
[06:23] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: well i'm confused too, so you're not the only one
[06:23] <abstractism> frah-je-lay
[06:23] <Fatcha2> fra-gee-lee
[06:23] <abstractism> sounds french
[06:23] <Fatcha2> must be italian
[06:23] <Spec> Is it possible to make mount check/load a module before it mounts a specific partition?
[06:23] <abstractism> oh yeah, italian, lol
[06:24] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: when I run find /boot/grub/stage1 I get back (hd0,9) which is my /boot partition. :(
[06:24] <Solilo> Does anyone in here know if the MPD package on the universe repository was compiled w/o support for MP4/M4A/AAC decoders?
[06:24] <abstractism> Fatcha2: owned r i
[06:24] <Fatcha2> lol abs
[06:24] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: want a screenie?
[06:24] <abstractism> I like that movie but couldn't really remember the quote
[06:24] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: No, no. I believe you, but I do not undestand why you are getting that error.
[06:25] <abstractism> which is sad cause I'm usually rather good at quotes
[06:25] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: Which filesystem have you got on /dev/hda1?
[06:25] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: ext3
[06:25] <Fatcha2> i think
[06:25] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:25] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: from grub?
[06:25] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: no, my mistake
[06:25] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: quit
[06:26] <s34n> Ares: xubuntu requires 128M to install (which is ok for me this time, but is still a lot for a "light" edition)
[06:26] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:26] <abstractism> from the normal terminal, I think
[06:26] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: what is listed under "system" for hda1?
[06:26] <BlueEagle> is it hpfs/ntfs?
[06:26] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: lol nothing was returned
[06:26] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: logout
[06:26] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:27] <Ares> s34n. Wait, you can't afford 128mb of memory?
[06:27] <Fatcha2> System for hda1 is linux, system for hda2 is sawp/solaris
[06:27] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: damn, then that's not the error either :(
[06:27] <Ares> s34n: As in, harddrive memory? Or was that just ram?
[06:27] <Linuturk> ok, got a wierd problem. partitioned a harddrive with the window install disk (120 gb disk  80-ntfs 40-unpartitioned) windows install goes fine, with all updates and service packs processed.
[06:28] <s34n> Ares: RAM
[06:28] <Linuturk> installed Ubuntu 6.06 onto the unallocated space, with an automatic partitioning scheme
[06:28] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: I feel really special, having a really chalenging problem and all..
[06:28] <cyphase> is Ares = Ryan?
[06:28] <Ares> s34n: If you want something small, why don't you forget fancy displays and fire up a full screen terminal =)
[06:28] <Ares> Um, no?
[06:28] <cyphase> ah
[06:28] <cyphase> nevermind
[06:28] <Ares> I just use Ares as a term on Warcraft, I'm sorry.
[06:28] <cyphase> :)
[06:28] <sethk> BlueEagle, getting your boot partition displayed is not a problem there
[06:28] <cyphase> np
[06:28] <Ares> Though you can call me Ryan if it makes you feel better.
[06:28] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: You should be feelign really stupid for having such a ridiculous probem. :p hehe
[06:28] <cyphase> lol
[06:28] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: is there any way for me to do a remote deskop?
[06:28] <Ares> =)
[06:28] <Linuturk> when I tried to boot into windows again, it would show it's loading page, but reboot immediately
[06:29] <Ares> What version of Windows, XP?
[06:29] <sethk> Linuturk, usually that means the boot loader for windows is still there but the windows partition itself is damaged
[06:29] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: I am not sure.
[06:29] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: I haven't used the ubuntu livecd. I run xubunty myself.
[06:29] <rixth> If a process is marked as 'uninterruptible' how can I kill it?
[06:29] <Linuturk> Ares, XP Home
[06:30] <Linuturk> sethk, fresh install
[06:30] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: oh >.<
[06:30] <BlueEagle> rixth: sudo kill -9 PID
[06:30] <sethk> Linuturk, fresh install of what?
[06:30] <Linuturk> xp home
[06:30] <rixth> BlueEagle, didn't do it
[06:30] <Linuturk> no partition resizing
[06:30] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[06:30] <cfh_dev> What is the lettering order for ide drives?  primary, master is hda.  How do the others fall?
[06:30] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: does that work at all?
[06:31] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: cmd not found
[06:31] <Ares> Linuturk: You installed Ubuntu ontop of Windows?  A faster remote desktop is !freenx
[06:31] <ic56> cfh_dev: correct. yw!
[06:31] <Ares> Linuturk: You have to partition the harddrive before installing Ubuntu.
[06:31] <rixth> johanbr, it's a rhythmbox process ffs.
[06:31] <cfh_dev> !freenx
[06:31] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[06:31] <Spec> x11vnc uses your current session eh?
[06:32] <Fatcha2> this hurts, my suse 10 dvd is beckoning me
[06:32] <Spec> is it possible to use your own session with freenx?
[06:32] <Linuturk> Ares, i did, via the windows installer
[06:32] <TTT_Travis> I am having a problem with ubuntu, I can't get a display resolution above 1024x768, my laptop's native res is way higher then that
[06:32] <johanbr> rixth: Let me guess... there's an nfs mount involved?
[06:32] <TTT_Travis> 4000xsomething or so
[06:32] <Linuturk> Ares, then i partitioned using the ubuntu installer
[06:32] <rixth> johanbr, nope
[06:32] <Ares> Linuturk: I'm very confused on what you are saying :O
[06:32] <Ares> Linuturk: You installed Windows, first, correct?
[06:32] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc
[06:32] <Linuturk> Ares, yes
[06:32] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: sudo chroot /mnt/
[06:32] <Ares> Linuturk: Did you use the whole hard drive?
[06:33] <IdleOne> !fixres
[06:33] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:33] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: sudo apt-get install sshd
[06:33] <johanbr> rixth: Strange, then I don't know. Anyway, you can't do much about uninterruptible processes. Except wait and hope for them to exit.
[06:33] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: acutally you don't need sudo on the last one.
[06:33] <Linuturk> Ares, no, i left 40 gigs unformatted
[06:33] <Spec> rixth: zombie processes won't go away
[06:33] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[06:33] <Spec> rixth: you have to kill the parent process that spawned it
[06:33] <rixth> Spec, top doesn't have it marked as a zombie
[06:33] <Linuturk> Ares, then i formatted using the Ubuntu installer, after i updated windows
[06:34] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: Then I'm all out of ideas. Sorry that I couldn't help you.
[06:34] <Ares> Linuturk: Does Ubuntu run?
[06:34] <deshantm> hi, does anyone know how to make ctrl+tab work in epiphany like it does in firefox? (i.e. to switch to the next tab)... currently ctrl+page up/down do that
[06:34] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: oooh you're kidding
[06:34] <Linuturk> Ares, yes, perfectly
[06:34] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: it's 6:40 am and I've been up since 9am yesterday.
[06:34] <Ares> LinuTurk: So, you have Windows start loading through... Grub via Chain loading, right?
[06:34] <Ares> LinuTurk: Then, it just hangs.
[06:34] <Linuturk> Ares, windows is caught in a reboot loop. The loading screen pops up, but it quickly restarts
[06:34] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: is there a possibility that it could be my partition? should it try the autoinstall? I feel your pain also blueeagle.
[06:35] <Ares> LinuTurk: I had something like that happen, but God dammit, I forgot that too.
[06:35] <cfh_dev> Is it possible to get a device description for the various /dev/hd* ?
[06:35] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: It shouldn't be. The problem is that grub can't seem to find your root partition at all.
[06:35] <Linuturk> Ares, i tried the process twice. Once with auto partitioning, once manual
[06:35] <Fatcha2> Linuturk, can you do F8 and console, chkdsk
[06:35] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: and that is a problem I've never had nor seen.
[06:36] <sysdoc> TTT_Travis, lol 4000xsomething! Maybe 1440xsomething....
[06:36] <TTT_Travis> yeah
[06:36] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: well ty for your time..
[06:36] <TTT_Travis> thats what I mean't ;)
[06:36] <sysdoc> lol
[06:36] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: ty ty alot
[06:36] <TTT_Travis> I wish it was 4000xsomething
[06:36] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: You could check in your bios that the drive is set to LBA and not some other exotic system.
[06:36] <Linuturk> Fatcha2, didn't think of that
[06:36] <TTT_Travis> another question how do I get my wireless to work? this is a Lenovo Thinkpad T60
[06:36] <deshantm> !epiphany
[06:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about epiphany
[06:36] <TTT_Travis> don't know what card it is
[06:36] <Linuturk> Fatcha2, how would the ubuntu install tear up windows though?
[06:37] <element> is there a DAP for linux? (download accelerator plus)
[06:37] <Ares> LinuTurk: Did you put your grub info in the wrong place/
[06:37] <Fatcha2> linuturk, no idea.. as long as the windows partition is still there, you're prolly still ok windows wise
[06:37] <deshantm> !firefox
[06:37] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:37] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: you're very welcom
[06:37] <Linuturk> Ares, it handled that automatically, as far as I could tell
[06:37] <BlueEagle> now I am calling it the night. Have a good one everybody.
[06:37] <Linuturk> seeing as windows was on the first partition
[06:37] <Fatcha2> BlueEalge: night man
[06:38] <Paul2> Hey can anyone help me with a network problem related to the nVidia 410 chipset and ubuntu 6.06?
[06:38] <Fatcha2> guys, i'm out.. ima play with ubuntu.. try to fix my problem
[06:38] <Fatcha2> bbl
[06:38] <sysdoc> TTT_Travis, you have 2 questions there that require you knowing what the hardware is.
[06:38] <BlueEagle> fatcha2: oh and if all else fails make a smaller /boot partition as /dev/hda1
[06:38] <SurfnKid> I like Breezy
[06:38] <SurfnKid> the only thing I dont is the lack of APM support
[06:39] <SurfnKid> i need to do some forum checking
[06:39] <Ares> LinuTurk: Oh yeah, you're right, this isn't like other systems :/
[06:39] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: 8gb is what it is now.. its a 100 gb drive
[06:39] <SurfnKid> !APM
[06:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about APM
[06:39] <Ares> LinuTurk: If worse comes to worse, redo everything.
[06:39] <Linuturk> Ares, well, i've done that twice
[06:39] <Fatcha2> BlueEagle: swap is a gig
[06:39] <Linuturk> :/
[06:39] <Ares> LinuTurk: Um, got a spare hard drive?
[06:39] <Fatcha2> yea ares, thats a great thing to tell someone
[06:40] <Linuturk> Ares, nope
[06:40] <Fatcha2> just like.. phuck it
[06:40] <Fatcha2> reinstall rofl
[06:40] <Ares> Fetcha2: I came from windows =)
[06:40] <Linuturk> that is the windows philosphy
[06:40] <Linuturk> ;p
[06:40] <Fatcha2> nice (>.<)
[06:40] <Ares> Fetcha2: We're lazy, and don't care =P
[06:40] <Paul2> My ethernet card stops working after rebooting to windows then back to ubuntu. Does any one know how to fix this it is my only yay to connect to the internet.
[06:40] <hey560> hello
[06:40] <Fatcha2> well i'm a windows user too
[06:40] <[soop] > paul2: stop rebooting into windows
[06:40] <Linuturk> retry, restart, reinstall
[06:40] <hey560> has anyone made an amarok 1.4.1 package yet?
[06:40] <[soop] > problem solved
[06:40] <Linuturk> the three r's of windows administration
[06:41] <Ares> LinuTurk: If all else fails, find someone who made a Wizard that solves the problem.
[06:41] <[soop] > paul2: why are you rebooting back into windows?
[06:41] <Paul2> I wish I could.
[06:41] <[soop] > why can't you?
[06:41] <Fatcha2> peace out -_-
[06:41] <sysdoc> Linuturk, please no,lol
[06:41] <renewip> hi, can I write on ntfs partition if I rebuild ubuntu kernel ???
[06:41] <[soop] > renewip: I don't think so
[06:41] <Ares> Renewip: I don't think NTFS is writable just yet.
[06:41] <[soop] > not at any level I'd trust
[06:41] <Linuturk> sysdoc, please no what?
[06:41] <donuts> Hello all! I have a problem installing dapper on a powerbook (related to bootstrap partition)
[06:41] <Ares> Renewip: fat32 is, but I really wouldn't try writing to anything with NTFS.
[06:42] <sysdoc> Don't recite the 3
[06:42] <Paul2> I have a few work related progs that won't run with WINE.
[06:42] <Ares> Paul2: What are they?
[06:42] <Linuturk> sysdoc ;p
[06:43] <Paul2> What are they what?
[06:43] <donuts> does anyone have much knowledge about installing dapper on ppc32?
[06:43] <Paul2> oh nvm
[06:43] <inono> Is there a package for RubyGems
[06:43] <Linuturk> lmao
[06:43] <[Ex0r] > Happy independence day!
[06:44] <Ares> Paul2: What are the programs you can't use or haven't found an alternative too?
[06:44] <Paul2> custom in company stuff
[06:44] <[soop] > Paul2: which programs?
[06:44] <Ares> Dammit, I screwed up my clock again.
[06:44] <[soop] > like what? vb apps for inventory or something similar?
[06:44] <Paul2> not to mention my wifes games.
[06:44] <[soop] > or is it not something that users could utilize a terminal server for
[06:44] <[soop] > paul2: which ones, I had the same issue
[06:45] <[soop] > now she's somewhat content
[06:45] <Paul2> yea
[06:45] <pete27> I'm a gentoo/fedora user who loves KDE.  I want to try ubuntu.  Should I try regular Ubuntu regardless of my preference for KDE, or is Kubuntu just as good as regular ubuntu?
[06:45] <donuts> hello, any mac users here? (having issues with bootstrap partition)
[06:45] <[soop] > pete: if you like kde stick with kde
[06:45] <farky> donuts: intel mac?
[06:45] <[soop] > i was a windowmaker fan and now I dont mind gnome
[06:45] <Ares> Pete27: Gentoo fan who is a fedora fan? Holy hell, I never would see the day.
[06:45] <jiSh> for kde dont use kubuntu imo
[06:45] <donuts> nop ppc
[06:45] <jiSh> something like mepis 6 better for kde
[06:45] <hey560> pete27: kubuntu will be as good as ubuntu but with KDE
[06:46] <donuts> 1 ghz powerbook aluminium g4
[06:46] <Paul2> I have read that forcedeth is the problem here but I have found no soultion.
[06:46] <farky> donuts: nvm cause there was an article on the forums I saw about the macbook pro
[06:46] <pete27> cool
[06:46] <donuts> farky: thanks
[06:46] <hey560> you can switch between them very easily too
[06:46] <noiesmo> pete27, only if you want to learn gnome other wise the kubuntu and ubuntu same base just desktop varies
[06:47] <farky> donuts: I "might
[06:47] <farky> donuts: I "might" be able to help
[06:47] <pete27> Everyone makes a big deal about ubuntu, so I figured maybe they did some nice stuff with gnome.
[06:47] <Ares> Its very streamlined and fast.
[06:47] <Ares> Thats about it.
[06:47] <pete27> And I thought that Kubuntu might have been an afterthought
[06:47] <Ares> Oh, and you can download a compiz/xgl binary for Ubuntu [Gnome]
[06:48] <pete27> hence I should give ubuntu a shot instead of kubuntu, but if that's not the case, I'll go with kubuntu
[06:48] <donuts> farky: would it be an idea to pv?
[06:48] <farky> donuts: join the channel #donuts
[06:48] <Ares> Want to try out compiz, I hear its rad.
[06:48] <Ares> [Directed to pete27]
[06:48] <pete27> Ares: I thought you could use xgl with KDE just fine?
[06:48] <noiesmo> i run XGL?Compiz on kubuntu Ares
[06:48] <donuts> farky: I'm not on my box now, so I'll jsut have a few questions, no spoonfeeding needed
[06:48] <pete27> I checked our Koraraa and it was awesome
[06:48] <Ares> I alway sthought Compiz was backing Gnome nativly.
[06:48] <farky> donuts: so what are you trying to do? Again I'm no expert
[06:49] <pete27> nah, the gentoo HOWTO says xgl and compiz work fine with KDE
[06:49] <Ares> Darn.
[06:49] <Ares> =)
[06:49] <pete27> I would try Xgl with gentoo but I'de have to reemerge X and gnome and that takes about a day
[06:49] <Ares> Thought we could end the KDE vs Gnome thing.
[06:49] <noiesmo> pete27, no problems here  running kde xgl/compiz
[06:49] <amonkey> what package do i need to get if what i'm trying to compile needs kdialog?
[06:49] <pete27> noiesmo: can you run opengl apps inside Xgl
[06:50] <varsendaggr> hey would someone plese tell me how to play quake 2   i have it installed but i need soemthign else    the .quake files
[06:50] <noiesmo> pete27, can play quake3
[06:50] <pete27> sweet
[06:50] <Risky_jatt> hey
[06:50] <varsendaggr> i love xgl
[06:50] <varsendaggr> i don't htink i can go back
[06:50] <noiesmo> pete27, but i have setup so can switch between xgl compiz and normal as some sdl apps dont like xgl compiz
[06:50] <Risky_jatt> what is the latest kernel used for ubuntu dapper 6
[06:50] <pete27> it is pretty damned cool
[06:51] <pete27> noiesmo: I imagine I would do the same
[06:51] <varsendaggr> how do you get quake 3 for linux?
[06:51] <pete27> buy it at a store
[06:51] <Risky_jatt> is ubuntu dapper 6.06 can use kernel 2.6.17 ?
[06:51] <noiesmo> pete27, here's link to my screenshoots its a little slow at moment http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/mediagallery/album.php?aid=1&page=1
[06:52] <skon> hello
[06:52] <Ares> Can you just apt-get Compiz and xgl?
[06:52] <noiesmo> pete27, howto on site as well for kubuntu dapper
[06:52] <noiesmo> Ares, yes
[06:52] <pete27> noiesmo: cool. I have to d/l the iso first though and install
[06:52] <[soop] > man I hate to say it but ubuntu has made me lazy
[06:52] <noiesmo> Ares, would use quinnstorm packages need to add repos
[06:52] <Risky_jatt> how to update kernel in ubuntu ?
[06:52] <[soop] > I just want to apt-get everything
[06:53] <pete27> Have you tried kororaa?
[06:53] <[soop] > apt-get complete system with everything i could possibly ever think of compiling
[06:53] <Ares> Noiesmo: Mind guiding me through everything?
[06:53] <noiesmo> apt-get roks
[06:53] <[soop] > make world
[06:53] <Paul2> so no one knows how to fix the "windows is skrewing up my nForce 410 ethernet card" problem other than "don't run windows." eh?
[06:53] <noiesmo> Ares, here's link to howto http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060602173658632
[06:54] <Risky_jatt> how to update kernel ?
[06:54] <noiesmo> Ares, got a few this todo at mo just thought throw in my 2cents worth haha
[06:55] <cyphase> which state are you in io-error?
[06:55] <noiesmo> Ares, also join channel ubuntu-xgl for specific help too
[06:55] <noiesmo> :)
[06:55] <cyphase> oh, he's gone
[06:55] <cyphase> io_error
[06:55] <cyphase> *
[06:55] <stpere> Paul2, try to ifconfig eth0 down
[06:55] <Ares> Paul2: Hold the cards makers and everyone involved at gun point until they fix it.
[06:55] <stpere> Paul2, then get it back up
[06:55] <stpere> Paul2, if it doesn't work, a cold boot should work
[06:56] <skon> have a server with eth0 assigned dhcp ( wan ) and eth1 assigned static ( lan ). My question is do I set a gateway in the eth1 config and where might I point it?
[06:56] <stpere> Paul2, rather than rebooting, turn off your computer then turn it back on
[06:56] <Paul2> Cold boot? power down unplug wait 15 sec replug powerup?
[06:57] <an> hey guys ,
[06:57] <an> hwo can i use icq in gaim?
[06:57] <CaptainMorgan> I can't get Kaffeine to display an mpg... I got Libxine-extracodecs, wavpack and w32codecs installed.... Im only getting sound with no display - any Ideas?
[06:57] <stpere> Paul2, no need to wait 15 sec.. hold the power switch for 4 seconds
[06:57] <Paul2> ok
[06:59] <Ares> Nano's shortcuts are retarded.
[06:59] <CaptainMorgan> no, yours are
[06:59] <[soop] > anyone knwo if 7.1 dolby sound actually works?
[06:59] <[soop] > I've never actually tried it in linux
[06:59] <[soop] > I've never had 7.1 speakers <laffs>
[06:59] <Ares> Captain: You're probably right, but I'm going to be a troll and say that V and Y are to far apart.
[06:59] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[07:00] <Ares> Anyone know of any Linux ports that will scan my face and destroy and blemishes?
[07:00] <Paul2> I hate windows but I gotta use it. Anyway I hope that works.
[07:01] <Ares> any*
[07:01] <BSoDirl> Ares: Clearasil Mplayer.
[07:01] <BSoDirl> :>
[07:01] <Ares> LOL.
[07:01] <an> hello?
[07:01] <BSoDirl> oh wait..
[07:01] <farky> Ares: sorry no I don't
[07:01] <soop> Ares: tetracyclene
[07:01] <soop> .sh
[07:01] <an> how can i add rooms in icq?
[07:01] <varsendaggr> Paul2, no you don't us vmplayer
[07:01] <soop> rooms? ICQ has rooms?
[07:01] <BSoDirl> Clearasil xzgv w/ antialias.
[07:01] <soop> wtf?!
[07:01] <varsendaggr> an /j #room
[07:01] <BSoDirl> :>
[07:01] <Ares> farky: Isn't their some shortcut in Vim or Emacs?
[07:01] <soop> when did icq get rooms
[07:01] <an> soop
[07:02] <soop> an: yes?
[07:02] <an> i use icq in gaim
[07:02] <BSoDirl> ROOMS?!
[07:02] <soop> an: wanna do me a favour
[07:02] <soop> query the acct # 421054
[07:02] <jme> well darn, getting a new version of the atmel firmware didn't make my wireless work
[07:02] <BSoDirl> I do too an, I didn't see any rooms.
[07:02] <Ares> Like, shift + ctrl + alt + C+L+E+A+R+F+A+C+E should work, right?