[12:00] <sunshine82> techsolo yea i think so
[12:00] <iceman> bob2 dude command not found see flood
[12:00] <sunshine82> techsolo how do i check
[12:00] <cyphase> np
[12:00] <aurax> hello, anyone here using pptp client ?
[12:00] <techsolo> sunshine82: lsmod
[12:00] <bob2> iceman: dude, you didn't run what I said
[12:00] <bob2> iceman: outside, the, chroot.
[12:00] <cyphase> out the cd in the burner, and close the window that pops up
[12:00] <techsolo> sunshine82: and then that drivers name
[12:00] <titanium> Seveas: now when i try to do anything with nxserver ie --status, --restart it just 'freezes' and stops responding until i press enter, and then it says "quit Quit"
[12:00] <blair> anyone want a pirate copy of ubuntu breezy badger?
[12:00] <cyphase> blair, me!
[12:00] <iceman> i have know ide whats in what out ...
[12:00] <bob2> iceman: you're still in the chroot when you're running that command
[12:00] <blair> go dl one from here:  www.ubuntu.com
[12:01] <bob2> iceman: look at your bloody prompt
[12:01] <techsolo> blair: that's illigal
[12:01] <bob2> 08:00:10         iceman |  (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:/$
[12:01] <bob2> in chroot
[12:01] <jonny> u mean put it in?
[12:01] <blair> techsolo, i know...shocking, huh
[12:01] <bob2> 07:35:36         iceman |  iceman@icebox64:~$  dchroot -c mychroot -d
[12:01] <bob2> not in chroot
[12:01] <sunshine82> techsolo it on lsmod but it say ovcamchip
[12:01] <cyphase> jonny, yea
[12:01] <amitayk> bob2: How do I configure my X to use /dev/psaux? I'm really newbie with this stuff...
[12:01] <cyphase> put*
[12:01] <cyphase> :)
[12:01] <blair> you know...if the internationalization included rendering all text in "pirate"....
[12:01] <techsolo> sunshine82: yeah that's no prob
[12:01] <blair> arrr, ubuntu
[12:01] <pizux> is someone know about dialog program?
[12:01] <sunshine82> techsolo it on lsusb as well
[12:02] <bob2> amitayk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, choose it for the mouse device
[12:02] <mohkohn> the more I read I think I need to put windoze back on my pc. Just long enough to flash the iriver T30 then it should work like a usb device...or is that a stupic plan?
[12:02] <jonny> ok now what
[12:02] <iceman> bob2 see #flood
[12:02] <techsolo> sunshine82: what 's gqcam saying about your webcam
[12:02] <bob2> pizux: a) don't ever crapflood the channel again, b) instal lthe 'dialog' package
[12:02] <cyphase> jonny, did a window pop up?
[12:02] <blair> mohkohn, you could probably write a flashy thing yourself
[12:02] <bob2> iceman: that is odd
[12:02] <jonny> yes
[12:02] <bob2> iceman: 'ls /chroot/bin | wc -l'?
[12:02] <sunshine82> techsolo it sayin /dev/video no such device
[12:03] <pizux> i know sorry but dialog program doesn t exist
[12:03] <mohkohn> blair does that make sense: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81513&highlight=iriver+t30
[12:03] <pizux> http://packages.debian.org/stable/misc/dialog
[12:03] <techsolo> sunshine82: that's because the driver is'n t right configured
[12:03] <pizux> just for debian
[12:03] <cyphase> jonny, close it
[12:03] <bob2> pizux: please stop it
[12:03] <jonny> ok
[12:03] <sunshine82> techsolo am i meant to opn gqcam in terminal
[12:03] <cyphase> then right click on the iso file
[12:03] <bob2> pizux: sudo apt-get install dialog
[12:03] <iceman> bob2 flood again
[12:03] <jonny> now what
[12:03] <techsolo> sunshine82: search on gentoo or ubuntu forums for that
[12:03] <pizux> bob2,
[12:03] <pizux> ?
[12:03] <bob2> pizux: run that command
[12:03] <bob2> iceman: 'ls /chroot'
[12:03] <techsolo> sunshine82: i can't really help you from here
[12:03] <iceman> bob2 it sucks ... i know ...
[12:03] <cyphase> and click "Write To Disk..."
[12:04] <blair> mohkohn, just a sec...i need to check that link
[12:04] <techsolo> sunshine82: and in my place it's 0003 hours
[12:04] <pizux> thanks a lot
[12:04] <cyphase> don't start yet though
[12:04] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:/chroot$ ls /chroot
[12:04] <iceman> debootstrap  home  var
[12:04] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:/chroot$
[12:04] <jonny> where is that
[12:04] <bob2> w.t.f.
[12:04] <iceman> bob2 sorry for 3 line flood but was quicker
[12:04] <cyphase> right click on the iso
[12:04] <cyphase> which is probably in your home folder
[12:04] <bob2> iceman: did you just delete things in there?
[12:05] <iceman> bob2 nope
[12:05] <bob2> iceman: wait, you didn't use /var/chroot?
[12:05] <jonny> ok
[12:05] <bob2> or you did
[12:05] <titanium> i don't even know what the hell is going on now. when i try to do anything nxserver related it says "HELLO NXSERVER" and pauses and won't do anything else.
[12:05] <jonny> 3X
[12:05] <bob2> then you ignored it, and used /chroot
[12:05] <cyphase> that's good
[12:05] <blair> mohkohn, looks like ifp and lsusb have different ideas about accessing the ports
[12:05] <cyphase> start it then
[12:05] <bob2> iceman: ls /var/chroot
[12:05] <jonny> ok its doing that but iv gtg eat later
[12:06] <iceman> bob2 #flood
[12:06] <cyphase> jonny, how long
[12:06] <cyphase> because i have to do something to :)
[12:06] <jonny> to eat dinner?
[12:06] <cyphase> lol
[12:06] <cyphase> i'll brb to then
[12:06] <bob2> iceman: why were you doing anything in /chroot at all, then?
[12:06] <iceman> bob2 ? question whats ls command ?
[12:07] <bob2> iceman: ls = list contents of directory
[12:07] <bob2> iceman: 'file /var/chroot/bin/ls'
[12:07] <iceman> bob2 to run wine in 64 bit ..
[12:07] <bob2> iceman: no, your chroot is in /var/chroot.  /chroot/ is some unrelated and almost empty directory
[12:07] <thrush> speaking of ls is there a better way than ls | more to do like dir /p?
[12:07] <bob2> thrush: better how?
[12:08] <iceman> posting in flood again
[12:08] <thrush> ls is all colorful and nice more is a little bland
[12:08] <DruQks> Greetings!
[12:08] <Kassah> Question: using the LiveCD to test out on my lappy... however I left it sitting to long and I've got a screensaver password... yet I never entered a password
[12:08] <thrush> and one column
[12:08] <bob2> Kassah: known bug, sadly
[12:08] <amitayk> bob2: I've try to reconfigure my mouse but with no success. This time, I've told it to imluate a 3-button mouse (Which I use) but without the wheel option.
[12:09] <Kassah> pretty screensaver though
[12:09] <bob2> iceman: then you're fine
[12:09] <Kassah> bob2, is there a default password?
[12:09] <bob2> iceman: dchroot, then 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[12:09] <iceman> bob2 i take it that the boot stuff i wanted is there, now how to get wine working >
[12:09] <bob2> Kassah: I don't think so
[12:09] <Seveas> thread, ls --color | less
[12:09] <concept10> what is the fastest ubuntu repo us.archive.com or just archive.ubuntu.com??
[12:09] <Seveas> thrush*
[12:09] <DruQks> I require slight assistance with installing Ubuntu. It freezes at the beginning of the installation process when trying to boot up it's Kernel. I've verified my installation image.
[12:10] <P8ntKid> bob2, After i let apt download and install breezy. Should i restart my computer or what?
[12:10] <Stormx2> chmod to full read, write, whatever. How do i do it?
[12:10] <bob2> concept10: that would of course depend on where yo uare, how you and your isp are connected to the internet, and what the phase of the moon is
[12:10] <bob2> P8ntKid: once everything is done, yes
[12:10] <blair> DruQks, what kind processor and what build ubuntu?
[12:10] <bob2> Stormx2: terrible idea, but mode 777
[12:10] <iceman> bob2 nope no installation candidate this would kill flood ...
[12:10] <bob2> iceman: then fix your /etc/apt/sources.list IN THE CHROOT
[12:10] <Stormx2> bob2 - Well, what is the standard permissions for folders?
[12:10] <DruQks> It's an Acer TravelMate 8thousandsomething and it's the latest version of ubuntu I got from the website.
[12:10] <concept10> bob2, supposed to be a full moon tonight, maybe I will try when it gets dark
[12:10] <thrush> Seveas: might look better when im not ssh'd into the computer thx
[12:11] <P8ntKid> bob2, At the website you gave me. It says to do stuff for after the upgrade. Should i do that after i restart or before?
[12:11] <iceman> bob2 partly understand that ... where to get a good sources.list file
[12:11] <Seveas> thrush, works fine over ssh for me
[12:11] <cafuego> !info libc6 dapper
[12:11] <louis_> hi all
[12:12] <DruQks> Just saw that linux acpi=off noacpi should work.....
[12:12] <thrush> Seveas: got ESC for each line oh but that box is running slackware so...
[12:12] <Kassah> bob2: is there a default root password?
[12:12] <bob2> iceman: /etc/apt/sources.list OUTSIDE the chroot, just copy it in to /var/chrtoo/etc/apt/sources.list, fixing typoes
[12:12] <bob2> Kassah: no
[12:12] <bob2> cafuego: hah
[12:12] <Kassah> bob2: or some way to change the user pass from command line?
[12:12] <bob2> Kassah: yes, 'passwd ubuntu', if youcan get a terminal
[12:12] <bob2> Kassah: if you had a terminal, tho, you could just kill xscreensaver
[12:13] <iceman> bob2 trying to find the sources list in chroot .. ?
[12:13] <Kassah> bob2, I've got a console by going Ctrl+Alt+F1
[12:13] <NightLord> Why do I get an error saying "USB_Connection_Error: Not permitted in configuration file" when trying to copy music from my mp3 player
[12:13] <ispiked_> why doesn't something like <Control>. work as a keyboard shorcut in the configuration editor?
[12:13] <P8ntKid> bob2, At the website you gave me. It says to do stuff for after the upgrade. Should i do that after i restart or before?
[12:13] <Kassah> bob2, but changing the password asks me for the current one
[12:13] <sunshine82> does anyone have a ame webcam
[12:13] <blair> Kassah it should be the same as your default user password
[12:13] <bob2> iceman: no
[12:14] <sunshine82> with nw801 chipset
[12:14] <amitayk> bob2: I've try to reconfigure my mouse but with no success. This time, I've told it to imluate a 3-button mouse (Which I use) but without the wheel option.
[12:14] <bob2> iceman: copy it into the chroot
[12:14] <titanium> bob2 or seveas: if i reinstall breezy, clean, and the very first thing i do is apt-get install ssh && apt-get install freenx  (using seveas' repository) do you think that would work? im fed up with this and i need freenx
[12:14] <blair> on installation both passwords are set the same
[12:14] <NightLord> Why do I get an error saying "USB_Connection_Error: Not permitted in configuration file" when trying to copy music from my mp3 player
[12:14] <Kassah> blair, it's the livecd... never asked me for a password
[12:14] <bob2> Kassah: 'sudo passwd ubuntu'
[12:14] <iceman> bob2 knowing where to copy from and to where ...
[12:14] <bob2> P8ntKid: after
[12:14] <bob2> iceman: dude
[12:14] <bob2> 08:12:11           bob2 | iceman: /etc/apt/sources.list OUTSIDE the chroot, just copy it in to /var/chrtoo/etc/apt/sources.list, fixing typoes
[12:14] <Kassah> killing xscreensaver killed X...grr
[12:14] <bob2> iceman: I don't mind you not understanding things, but you need to say WHICH bit of my sentences confuse you
[12:15] <blair> Kassah, try ctrl-alt-F1 to get to a terminal window
[12:15] <bob2> titanium: I don't know enough about your situation to guess, sorry
[12:15] <Seveas> titanium, the problem seems to be in your network
[12:15] <bob2> amitayk: that's unelated to using a ps/2 mouse
[12:15] <Seveas> can you ping/ssh to the machine?
[12:15] <Kassah> oops... looks like I pretty well screwed up X
[12:15] <bob2> amitayk: the crucial things are telling it to use /dev/psaux, and the mouse protocol
[12:15] <Kassah> and the display
[12:16] <bob2> Seveas: he/she got login failures in auth.log when trying to connect
[12:16] <aguthrie> I just hit ctrl+alt+F1 and I got taken to some bare-bones terminal type thing. how do I get back to my graphical session. I can still hear my music playing! :P
[12:16] <blair> Kassah, can you reboot and get it back?
[12:16] <bob2> aguthrie: ctral-alt-f7
[12:16] <Kassah> well I'll be booting off the livecd... so I'll lose the data I had entered
[12:16] <blair> aguthrie, what he said
[12:16] <bob2> iceman: so
[12:16] <ispiked_> blair: cheers. :)
[12:16] <concept10> I have a problem with fixing a broken package: Setting up gtkboard (0.11pre0-3) ...
[12:16] <concept10> error in control file: `Format' value not specified at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 715, <IN> line 17.
[12:16] <iceman> bob2 i did sudo gedit, and copied my existing sources.list from my original file to var/chroot and replaced the one that was in there
[12:16] <bob2> iceman: when I say "in the chroot", I mean "after you run dchroot and see '(mychroot)' in your prompt"
[12:17] <Kassah> aguthrie, should be able to get back to X by Ctrl+Alt+F7
[12:17] <bob2> iceman: when I say "outside the chroot", I mean "quite dchroot and make sure (mychroot) is not in your prompt"
[12:17] <bob2> iceman: now, chroot in (dchroot) and run 'sudo apt-get update'
[12:17] <ispiked_> Kassah: Thanks. :)
[12:17] <P8ntKid> bob2, In the post upgrade section it says to edit something in my xorg.conf, should i do that before or after i restart?
[12:17] <ispiked_> Kassah: aguthrie was me.
[12:18] <bob2> P8ntKid: doesn't matter, but before will be simpler
[12:18] <titanium> Seveas : but if i have no firewall and i can ssh to it what could block nx?
[12:18] <P8ntKid> bob2, Ok thanks. Ill do the whole post upgrade thing before i restart i guess.
[12:18] <iceman> bob2 see flood
[12:19] <Seveas> titanium, wait a sec: you *manually* downloaded packages right?
[12:19] <dyno> bob2, nothing on the web for my soundcard :/
[12:19] <titanium> Seveas: the .deb files? i just added your site to my sources.list and did apt-get
[12:19] <Seveas> ok
[12:19] <dyno> so i can't read chinese or russian*
[12:19] <iceman> bobs doing apt-get update see what it does
[12:19] <blair> the heck with this...i gotta go grill somethin'
[12:19] <Seveas> (there are untested newer versions available too, but they're not in the lists yet :)
[12:20] <concept10> im starting to hate APT
[12:20] <kevogod> Why?
[12:20] <titanium> Seveas: i think im just going to reinstall breezy when i get home because this shit is insane, i'm out of ideas
[12:20] <amitayk> bob2: How do I do it?
[12:20] <concept10> 470 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 283 not upgraded. <-- not upgraded, WHY?
[12:20] <Seveas> concept10, apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:21] <concept10> Seveas, heh
[12:21] <concept10> oops
[12:21] <Seveas> Kassah, :)
[12:21] <P8ntKid> bob2, What window manager do you use? I was just wondering.
[12:22] <cafuego> Kassah: omg! omg! I glued like this massive wing to my cpu to speed it up!
[12:23] <Kassah> cafuego, lmao... my first cpu I tried to put in a computer.... I managed to melt to the fan... havn't messed with hardware overclocking since
[12:23] <Stormx2> FTP Client, what would you recommend?
[12:23] <concept10> Seveas, thanks...dumb mistake
[12:24] <agt> Stormx2::  gftp works for me
[12:24] <locust> Can you execute .run files on ubuntu?
[12:24] <Kassah> aww... it broke it's autodetect track record on my lappy... can't find the modem
[12:24] <jbroome> i like ncftpt
[12:24] <cappiz> can someone tell me about a nice webcam sttream server?
[12:24] <jbroome> or, if you wnat it to work, ncftp
[12:25] <sunshine82> how come nw802 driver is in warty but not in breezy#]
[12:25] <iceman> bob2 no idea if in or out .. but it is updating a lot
[12:25] <iceman> chroot
[12:25] <amitayk> bob2: How do I tell it to use psaux?
[12:26] <iceman> bob2 seems to not want to update if in chroot
[12:26] <iceman> bob2 posted output in flood
[12:26] <aguthrie> So, I did ctrl+alt+backspace to logout but it put me to the barebones terminal thing again. How do I get back to the graphical login screen without rebooting?
[12:27] <P8ntKid> bob2, Ok, it finished downloading all the packages. But it didnt install them? Why?
[12:27] <locust> How do you use .run files in Ubuntu?
[12:28] <KurtKraut> Where can I find some plugins to be added to gnome, such as CPU graphic ?
[12:28] <P8ntKid> bob2, It also gave me an error that sais it failed to fetch these 3 packages. But it still didnt install any of them.
[12:28] <uga> hi there, anyone knows about network issues in ubuntu/kubuntu/debian?
[12:28] <iceman> (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:/$ apt-get install update
[12:28] <iceman> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:28] <iceman> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:28] <iceman> (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:/$
[12:28] <aguthrie> uga: what's up?
[12:28] <aguthrie> iceman: is synaptics running?
[12:28] <iceman> nope
[12:28] <uga> aguthrie: it looks like dhclient is failing here... the router receives the requests but no responce is received back
[12:29] <starscalling> !w32deb
[12:29] <ubotu> w32deb is probably download a ready to use w32codecs deb at http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (hoary) or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (breezy)
[12:29] <uga> i had debian installed before, which after an upgrade began with these sympthoms, now i installed kubuntu, with the same problem
[12:29] <aguthrie> uga: hrm...
[12:29] <uga> aguthrie: iptables is clear, I tried pinging with static ip, with the same problem
[12:29] <cafuego> KurtKraut: Right click the panel and choose "Add to panel...'
[12:29] <cafuego> KurtKraut: There's a system monitor applet, try that.
[12:30] <HukChobo> When I build a vanilla 2.6.13 kernel I no longer get cdrom insert detection in GNOME, although the disc is mounted in /media/cdrom0. With Ubuntu 2.6.12 I get an icon in the desktop and a nautilus window upon cdrom insertion. What do I need to do to get this to work with a vanilla kernel?
[12:30] <cafuego> KurtKraut: if that fails, try gdesktlets, which contain far more status monitor shit than you'l;ll ever need or want.
[12:30] <aguthrie> uga: so you can't even connect with a static IP?
[12:30] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help me with updating from hoary to breezy using apt? I am following the guide that is in the channel topic. It downloads all the packages but it doesnt install them, It just downloaded them.
[12:30] <iceman> anyone willing to ssh access and config this ... i'm ready to just drop 64 bit ... this has been over a 10 hour fight ..
[12:30] <uga> aguthrie: neither. No ping responses. This guy reported the same thing I just found: http://groups.google.com/http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/d144ad2c1d167134/efec30857bde1674?lnk=st&q=debian+dhcp+not+working&rnum=2#efec30857bde1674Rigroup/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/d144ad2c1d167134/efec30857bde1674?lnk=st&q=debian+dhcp+not+working&rnum=2#efec30857bde1674Ri
[12:30] <uga> sorry... argh, double paste
[12:31] <uga> http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/d144ad2c1d167134/efec30857bde1674?lnk=st&q=debian+dhcp+not+working&rnum=2#efec30857bde1674Ri
[12:31] <cafuego> iceman: hint: sudo
[12:31] <aguthrie> uga: I'm not really in a position where I can read that now. :P
[12:31] <amitayk> bob2: How do I tell it to use psaux?
[12:31] <uga> aguthrie: ahk. sorry, hehe. Well, the routing table is empty, the router receives the query, sends it back, but it doesn't receive it
[12:31] <iceman> cafuego i have done sudo ,, no sudo .. and no luck ..
[12:31] <madsen> So, does anyone know how to make sure that the mousedev module doesn't take control of my tablet when I plug it? (Via usb.)
[12:31] <cafuego> iceman: Then remove the lock file and try again.
[12:31] <locust> How can I run something in terminal as super user?
[12:32] <madsen> locust: sudo
[12:32] <cafuego> locust: sudo <comething>
[12:32] <Kassah> okay... off to try the 64 bit livecd on my desktop
[12:32] <iceman> whats locked
[12:32] <aguthrie> uga: you wouldn't know how to get back to a login screen after I did ctrl+alt+backspace, would you? hrm, could I start x and then do ctrl+alt+f7?
[12:32] <locust> so to install ati drivers I'd type sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.18.6-i386.run ?
[12:32] <madsen> cafuego: comething? Eww! :-p
[12:32] <grogoreo> hi
[12:32] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help me with updating from hoary to breezy using apt? I am following the guide that is in the channel topic. It downloads all the packages but it doesnt install them, It just downloaded them.
[12:32] <propagandhi> uga: can you paste the contents of the '/etc/network/interfaces' to the pastebin
[12:32] <cafuego> iceman: /var/lib/apt/lists/lock ?
[12:32] <uga> aguthrie: I'm a coder, so somehow I know ;)
[12:32] <iceman> IM LOST ...
[12:33] <uga> propagandhi: sure, hehe
[12:33] <grogoreo> while doing a dist-upgrade, it says Unable to fetch some archives... and says I should do a apt-get update. After, should a do another dist-upgrade?
[12:33] <cafuego> iceman: You need to be root when running apt; accrding to your pase you aren't. Make sure sudo is set up the the cheroot; it needs to be suid root.
[12:33] <cafuego> s/pase/paste/
[12:33] <grogoreo> also should i just do apt-get update --fix-missing instead of just doing apt-get update?
[12:33] <uga> propagandhi: ugh, copy pasting is impossible, I'll have to copy by hand... :/
[12:33] <uga> notice Ig ot no network there
[12:33] <iceman> Someone .... do a remote and fix this ...
[12:33] <aguthrie> help
[12:33] <P8ntKid> grogoreo, Are you trying to update from hoary to breezy?
[12:33] <aguthrie> darn. sorry about that.
[12:33] <grogoreo> P8ntKid, yep
[12:33] <propagandhi> uga: there shouldnt be much to copy
[12:33] <axteroide> wenas
[12:34] <P8ntKid> grogoreo, I have the same exact problem as you.
[12:34] <bob2> amitayk: as the mouse device...
[12:34] <bob2> P8ntKid: how could it install things it failed to fetch?
[12:34] <grogoreo> P8ntKid, the problem went after saying a connection timeout from download openoffice
[12:34] <sizzam> is there a command i can issue to get more info on my video card (chipset, etc)
[12:34] <P8ntKid> bob2, It only failed to fetch 3 packages.
[12:34] <madsen> sizzam: lspci
[12:34] <iceman> i got 42% of the x86 cd downloaded, thats my only other choice .. or fight this stupid thing, and aggrivate myself and who ever is trying to help
[12:34] <bob2> P8ntKid: so show us the error in #flood
[12:34] <cafuego> sizzam: 'lspci' ?
[12:34] <bob2> iceman: holy fuck
[12:34] <DruQks> Hey, new Ubuntu setup question. I have 15.7GB of free space, I tell the setup to use that. I have WinXP on my C: drive which I want to continue using. Should I have Ubuntu make the new partition a logical or primary one?
[12:35] <amitayk> bob2: Well, I don't really know how the set things up.
[12:35] <sizzam> thanks cafuego, madsen
[12:35] <bob2> iceman: just reinstall it them
[12:35] <madsen> sizzam: np :)
[12:35] <bob2> amitayk: so, run that command and walk through until it asks what mouse device to use
[12:35] <iceman> bob2 dude, 10 hours fighting to no avail ...
[12:35] <evil> nice program
[12:35] <bob2> iceman: I've told you command-by-command how to fix it
[12:35] <P8ntKid> bob2, I did.
[12:35] <Phazeman> hi all. how do i make services to start/stop at boot ? the alternative to mandriva's chkconfig ?
[12:35] <amitayk> bob2: I can't recall it asked for the mouse protocol.\
[12:35] <cafuego> Phazeman: 'rcconf'
[12:35] <grogoreo> but do I have a Breezy install? Or Hoary/Breezy one?
[12:35] <bob2> P8ntKid: 'sudo apt-get update', try dist-upgrade again
[12:35] <Grinak> can anyone recommend a good way to clone\image a breezy build to another hard drive?
[12:35] <bob2> DruQks: doesn't matter
[12:35] <cafuego> Grinak: 'dd' ?
[12:36] <Phazeman> cafuego: thanks
[12:36] <madsen> Phazeman: update-rc.d or System -> Administration -> Services
[12:36] <bob2> DruQks: except that windows will bitch if you have more than 4 primary partitions
[12:36] <iceman> bob2 there seems to be stuff missing ... lost, and LOcked ...
[12:36] <grogoreo> I've just done 'apt-get update --fix-missing' and nohting new's been downloaded
[12:36] <DruQks> bob2, Can I have 2 primary partitions on a HD?
[12:36] <uga> propagandhi: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3570
[12:36] <Kyral> Yes
[12:36] <P8ntKid> bob2, I got an error at the end of the update
[12:36] <DruQks> bob2, what's the difference between a primary/logical one?
[12:36] <Kyral> up to 4
[12:36] <cafuego> bob2: fdisk won't let you make more than 4.
[12:36] <uga> propagandhi: as I saw eth0 isn't in auto, I ifup'ed eth0 manually
[12:36] <P8ntKid> bob2, I pasted it in flood
[12:36] <uga> (just in case you think it's not started up ;))
[12:36] <bob2> iceman: that's because you didn't run the command I told you to
[12:36] <bob2> cafuego: ah
[12:36] <iceman> bbo2, can you ssh in if i do all the premissions and take a look at least ..
[12:36] <bob2> DruQks: yes
[12:37] <bob2> iceman: no, I'm not going to do that
[12:37] <uga> propagandhi: if you use dhcp instead of static, then it'll get no dhcp responses...
[12:37] <bob2> P8ntKid: looks like a temporary mirror issue
[12:37] <cafuego> DruQks: a logical partition is a placegholder for extended partitions; not something that contains data itself.
[12:37] <propagandhi> uga, have u tried adding a gateway line
[12:37] <iceman> bob2 i understand ... but i have done commeand in chroot, out of chroot
[12:37] <P8ntKid> bob2, Yea, your right. I did update again and it went through fine. now  do dist-upgrade?
[12:37] <uga> propagandhi: gateway when I can't even ping the gateway?
[12:37] <bob2> iceman: no, you didn't, sorry
[12:37] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:~$ dchroot
[12:37] <iceman> Executing shell in 'mychroot' chroot.
[12:37] <iceman> No directory, logging in with HOME=/
[12:37] <iceman> (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:/$ logout
[12:37] <iceman> iceman@icebox64:~$
[12:37] <bob2> iceman: and I'm not sure how to make it more clear
[12:38] <bob2> iceman: do. not. paste. crap. in. here.
[12:38] <bob2> P8ntKid: yes.
[12:38] <cafuego> DruQks: Some moron decided back in the 80s that 4 partitions should be enough for anyone, so we got this ugly-ass hack to get around that :-)
[12:38] <jsor> is there a good way to install mozilla-mailnews on breezy?  My only option seems to be downgrading libnspr4 (and most of gnome with it)
[12:38] <iceman> bob2 just lets you know where i am
[12:38] <bob2> iceman: for instance, 'apt-get install update' is not a valid command anywhere
[12:38] <P8ntKid> bob2, It says it has to download another 455mb. Is that right?
[12:38] <bob2> iceman: and I certainly did not ask you to run it
[12:38] <cafuego> jsor: thunderbird is your friend! :-)
[12:38] <uga> propagandhi: tried, didn't work...
[12:38] <bob2> P8ntKid: I don't know (you haven't told me enough)
[12:38] <calamari> is there a command line way to find out the dependencies of the installed package kstars?
[12:38] <propagandhi> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3571
[12:38] <P8ntKid> bob2, Nvm
[12:38] <bob2> iceman: run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install wine' in the chroot
[12:39] <propagandhi> uga: thats my interfaces config
[12:39] <jsor> cafuego, it's my friend for sure, but my parents are resistant to change
[12:39] <bob2> iceman: if you can't explain which part of that is confusing, then I cannot help you anymore, sorry
[12:39] <chulos> hi somebody knows about a bug on distribution keyboard?
[12:39] <bob2> calamari: apt-cache show blah
[12:39] <iceman> bob2 in chroot ... now to insure i am there ?
[12:39] <calamari> bob2: thanks
[12:39] <cafuego> jsor: Tell them it's smaller, faster, more secure.
[12:39] <Phazeman> ok.. now... how do i see through the list of installed packages ?
[12:39] <DruQks> How large should I make my linux boot partition?
[12:39] <Phazeman> something like i was used to do with rpm -q
[12:39] <madsen> calamari: Alternatively: apt-cache depends <package>
[12:39] <cafuego> jsor: Surely they won't mind thunderbird loading in1  second as opposed to mozilla's 12.
[12:39] <alekz> can someone recommend me a nice alternative of Macromedia Dream Weaver ?
[12:39] <propagandhi> uga: and if you're certain theres no other lines in the interfaces file
[12:40] <madsen> Phazeman: dpkg -l
[12:40] <propagandhi> uga: do you have webmin by chance
[12:40] <AcidPils> Phazeman: aptitude is your friend
[12:40] <Phazeman> madsen: cool ! thanks
[12:40] <iceman> bob2 i got (mychroot))iceman@icebox64:/$
[12:40] <iceman>   so that means i am in chroot ... correct
[12:40] <madsen> Phazeman: np :)
[12:40] <bob2> iceman: ok, good luck with your reinstall
[12:40] <Phazeman> AcidPils: i was asking CLI
[12:40] <calamari> madsen: excellent! :)
[12:40] <bob2> iceman: yes, I have said that about half a dozen times
[12:40] <Phazeman> madsen: it;s really hard to get used to somthing THAT different from urpmi ;-)
[12:40] <uga> propagandhi: I'm pretty sure it's not a configure issue. I've used 4 distros without problems on the same machine with the same network settings
[12:40] <madsen> Phazeman: You might want dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'}  if you just want the names of the packages. :)
[12:40] <uga> propagandhi: it's somethign to do with blocking received packs
[12:40] <Phazeman> yeah... thought of it already L()
[12:40] <iceman> bob2 i'm learning here ... what to look at .. look for, and to pay attention
[12:41] <uga> propagandhi: notice the router _does_ receive the dhcp requests
[12:41] <jsor> cafuego, if I can't install mailnews, then there isn't much of an option
[12:41] <uga> but no input is received back
[12:41] <grogoreo> well I've just restarted my computer and no breezy!
[12:41] <bob2> iceman: yes, which is why I was so expliciti
[12:41] <iceman> bob2 see flood ...
[12:41] <propagandhi> uga: yes, but you cant ping your gateway or other machines on the network right
[12:41] <P8ntKid> bob2, I got an error while its unpacking this package. Look in #flood
[12:41] <davidleeroth> I have a problem. i apt-get'd gcc and g++, but now everything I compile errors.
[12:41] <cafuego> jsor: Let me have a look...
[12:41] <bob2> iceman: (mychroot) in your prompt = in the chroto
[12:41] <madsen> K, how the heck do I block a driver (mousedev) from taking control of my tablet when I plug it in?
[12:41] <bob2> iceman: I don't know how to make that any cleaerer
[12:41] <davidleeroth> It says xxx.h not found
[12:41] <bob2> davidleeroth: install build-essential
[12:41] <davidleeroth> ok
[12:41] <uga> propagandhi: obviously, since if no dhcp responses are received, I really doubt any ping responses will reach here either
[12:41] <bob2> P8ntKid: that's fine, and not an error
[12:41] <iceman> bob2 that is what i get .. no sudo
[12:42] <alekz> can someone recommend me a nice alternative of Macromedia Dream Weaver ??'
[12:42] <bob2> iceman: right, so either install it, or su to root (I don't know how you setup the chroot)
[12:42] <cafuego> jsor: 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-mailnews' isn't doing its thing?
[12:42] <madsen> alekz: vim ;-p
[12:42] <propagandhi> uga: you said even with a static IP
[12:42] <P8ntKid> bob2, Ok, i hit yes. Is it ok to eave xchat running while its upgrading?
[12:42] <bob2> alekz: you'll probably be happier on windows then
[12:42] <bob2> alekz: you may like nvu
[12:42] <uga> propagandhi: yes
[12:42] <bob2> P8ntKid: yes
[12:42] <davidleeroth> bob2, I effing love you.... You are now king of the universe and the new lead singer of Van Halen...
[12:42] <P8ntKid> bob2, Ok thanks. You are most helpful person ever.
[12:42] <plumpkin> alekz, bluefish is alright as well
[12:42] <uga> propagandhi: something is blocking network responses, and I'm not sure why
[12:42] <propagandhi> uga: I was having this problem also and thats why I am asking
[12:42] <madsen> bob2: For me vim works fine as an alternative to dreamweaver. ;)
[12:42] <cappiz> can someone tell me about a nice webcam sttream server?
[12:43] <davidleeroth> thank you so much
[12:43] <bob2> madsen: hah
[12:43] <amitayk> bob2: I'm now in the first screen dealing with the mouse. It is asking about emulating 3 button mouse.
[12:43] <starscalling> um
[12:43] <bob2> amitayk: then say yes if you have a two butotn mouse
[12:43] <grogoreo> should I do a dist-upgrade again? If I do, will the current files I downloaded be used?
[12:43] <propagandhi> I fixed mine because the kubuntu final cd when installed added a static route in  the interfaces file
[12:43] <starscalling> would anyone have another package for msttcorefonts?
[12:43] <Kassah> neat
[12:43] <madsen> amitayk: Can't harm to say yes afaik.
[12:43] <iceman> bob2 i have know idea .. how ever the web directed is what i have set up
[12:43] <propagandhi> which blocked all my traffic
[12:43] <starscalling> seems all of them time out :/
[12:43] <bob2> grogoreo: yes
[12:43] <uga> propagandhi: when I was in debian I thought I had screwed up something with the settings. Installing kubuntu now I found it's got to do with debian based distros
[12:44] <Kassah> however... the mirror'd monitors thing is kinda annoying... but so far nothing but windows autodetects the fact I have two monitors
[12:44] <iceman> bob2 here was my guide ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28debootstrap%29
[12:44] <uga> and it's something I didn't have problems with before
[12:44] <amitayk> bob2: Not it asking about enabling scroll events from mouse whell (Which I don't have)
[12:44] <madsen> uga: What's the problem?
[12:44] <bob2> starscalling: then download them manually from corefonts.sf.net, or wait and try again later
[12:44] <bob2> amitayk: then say no...
[12:44] <propagandhi> uga: have u got webmin
[12:44] <uga> madsen: dhcpclient responses arent' received by the machine...
[12:44] <DruQks> How large should I make my linux boot partition?
[12:44] <cafuego> jsor: ?
[12:44] <uga> propagandhi: unless it's default, no
[12:44] <DruQks> 1gb enough?
[12:44] <bob2> iceman: 'sudo chroot /var/chroot', from outside the chroot
[12:44] <uga> and I can't install anythign without a network
[12:45] <bob2> iceman: then, you'll be inside it, as root; run 'passwd' to set a root password for the chroot
[12:45] <madsen> uga: Hmm, i've only experienced that once in the 4 years I've been running Debian...
[12:45] <uga> madsen: no dhcp responses, nor I can ping the router with static ip settings
[12:45] <bob2> DruQks: you don't need a seperate boot partition at all
[12:45] <cafuego> DruQks: Were you the one with 15 gb free?
[12:45] <DruQks> bob2, isn't it better?
[12:45] <jsor> cafuego, yeah, any luck?
[12:45] <amitayk> bob2: Well, still the mouse is not functioning
[12:45] <DruQks> cafuego, yeah. . . was told that a seperate boot/data partition would be better.
[12:45] <cafuego> jsor: 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-mailnews' isn't doing its thing?
[12:45] <cafuego> jsor: (You need the universe repository)
[12:45] <madsen> uga: You sure your NIC is setup properly? (I had a problem where it loaded 2 kernel modules for my NIC and they spent their time fighting over the NIC instead of giving me net.)
[12:45] <jsor> cafuego, wait, I missed your earlier question
[12:46] <iceman> passwd: password updated successfully
[12:46] <starscalling> thanx bob2
[12:46] <uga> madsen: NIC as in network interface configuration? yup
[12:46] <virgo> Hi, I'm wondering if it is possible to play WMV files in Ubuntu...
[12:46] <bob2> DruQks: no
[12:46] <bob2> amitayk: it never asked you for a device name?
[12:46] <DruQks> Right you are then, thanks.
[12:46] <Kassah> okay... just trying to play shoutcast... getting error: There is no element present to handle the streams mime type audio/mpeg
[12:46] <bob2> virgo: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (linked from the FAQ)
[12:46] <amitayk> bob2: Not even once
[12:46] <iceman> bob2 and a chroot prompt in ch
[12:46] <Kassah> how do I go about fixing this?
[12:46] <madsen> uga: NIC as in Network Interface Card - are you sure only 1 module is trying to take control of it?
[12:46] <cafuego> DruQks: A separate boot AFTER a windows partition is pointless. Maybe rseparate system and /home though.
[12:46] <uga> madsen: if you can access this: http://tinyurl.com/create.php
[12:46] <amitayk> bob2: Unless I'm drunk...
[12:46] <DruQks> Ok.
[12:46] <uga> madsen: it's tulip, it's loaded, but _NOT_ being used
[12:46] <uga> lsmod says 0 uses
[12:47] <uga> which gets me worried ;)
[12:47] <bob2> Kassah: you need to provide more info; e.g. what program that error is from
[12:47] <bob2> amitayk: odd
[12:47] <iceman> bob2 how to run and login to chroot ...
[12:47] <P8ntKid> I swear, bob2 is a computer.
[12:47] <P8ntKid> Lol
[12:47] <Kassah> umm... Music Player it seems
[12:47] <CrakerJak> hey guyz! can anyone please tellme how to edit my grub. so that Window is my defualt OP..?
[12:47] <madsen> uga: Yeah, it does that with my nic too - no worries there.
[12:47] <jsor> cafuego, yeah, I have universe installed.  apt-getting mozilla-mailnews returns "mozilla-mailnews: Depends: mozilla-browser (= 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1 is to be installed"
[12:47] <uga> uhm
[12:47] <cafuego> DruQks: In which case, probably 5 GB /, 10GB /home and 512MB swap
[12:47] <amitayk> bob2: I can agree with that...
[12:47] <Kassah> Rythmbox 0.8.8
[12:47] <madsen> uga: Tried the tulip_old module? (Or whatever it's called?)
[12:47] <madsen> uga: My server's running Debian with a tulip card - no problems there. Ever.
[12:47] <cafuego> !info mozilla-browser
[12:48] <ubotu> mozilla-browser: (The Mozilla Internet application suite - core and browser), section web, is optional. Version: 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 8964 kB, Installed size: 27884 kB
[12:48] <bob2> iceman: I don't know what you mean
[12:48] <bob2> iceman: the command I gave you will get you into the chroot, as root.
[12:48] <uga> madsen: sorry, obviously I pasted the url wrong before. this guy had the same issue, this same month http://tinyurl.com/ane2g
[12:48] <bob2> CrakerJak: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:48] <cafuego> jsor: Run 'sudo apt-get update' first, then try...
[12:48] <uga> madsen: uhm. I'll check if I find such module...
[12:48] <bob2> amitayk: maybe you need to modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf yourself then
[12:48] <Kassah> bob2, Rythembox
[12:48] <thestimpie> I've 3 alternatives for java, how do I make sure 1 jvm is used?
[12:49] <iceman> bob2 well i am guessin i am in chroot from the prompt .. but now ?
[12:49] <jsor> cafuego, apt-get update didn't find anything new
[12:49] <Seveas> Kassah: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[12:49] <starscalling> bob2, i just install rpm to run that font rpm right?
[12:49] <RastaMahata> update-alternatives
[12:49] <madsen> uga: What does lspci have to say about your nic?
[12:49] <CrakerJak> bob2, ok then what do I change??
[12:49] <cafuego> jsor: Hmm, do you have breezy-updates and breezy-security enabled?
[12:49] <bob2> iceman: now run the other thing I told you to run
[12:49] <jsor> cafuego, has it installed fine for you then?
[12:49] <iceman> bob2 apt-get install update ?
[12:49] <bob2> starscalling: no, this plan does not involve rpms at all
[12:50] <iceman> bob2 did the password ...
[12:50] <jsor> cafuego, I'll check my sources.list
[12:50] <bob2> iceman: no, that command does not exist, at all, ever
[12:50] <Kassah> Seveas, k
[12:50] <amitayk> bob2: How do I run an editor?
[12:50] <bob2> iceman: then 'sudo apt-get update'
[12:50] <bob2> amitayk: you've never edited a config file before?
[12:50] <calamari> after doing some updates, kstars really loads down my system.. is there a way to troubleshoot this?  top shows Xorg as using the cpu (65-70%)
[12:50] <bob2> starscalling: get the fonts themselves
[12:50] <uga> madsen: uhm, sorry, I'll be able to respond when the machine restarts. trying to rmmod tulip while eth0 was up wasn't good =)
[12:50] <iceman> sudo command not found
[12:51] <CrakerJak> bob2, So what is it that I change??
[12:51] <iceman> because i am root already .. my guess
[12:51] <madsen> uga: No, especially if you used -f . ;)
[12:51] <amitayk> bob2: In unix-like system? Never in my life.
[12:51] <bob2> CrakerJak: uh, read it? the "default" option.
[12:51] <bob2> iceman: apt-get update.
[12:51] <bob2> amitayk: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:51] <madsen> iceman: No, then it'd say that 'root' isn't allowed to sudo.
[12:51] <bob2> amitayk: or whatever the file is called
[12:51] <cafuego> jsor: There's a manual override: wget -c http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla/mozilla-browser_1.7.12-0ubuntu2_i386.deb; sudo dpkg -i mozilla-browser_1.7.12-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[12:51] <madsen> iceman: or something...
[12:51] <uga> madsen: it just seems to wait until the module is freed. I tried ifdown, but it got stuck
[12:51] <madsen> uga: :(
[12:51] <stimpie> RastaMahata, I changed Alternative to  "/usr/local/jre1.5.0_05/bin/java
[12:51] <stimpie> " but eclipse still uses "/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj"
[12:51] <iceman> bob2 it did update ...
[12:52] <bob2> iceman: now 'apt-get install wine'
[12:52] <jsor> cafuego, I have breezy-security for universe, but not breezy-updates for universe.  I'll see if I can take care of that
[12:52] <Kassah> yay... shoutcast
[12:52] <odie5533> Is there a place that has an overview of the directory structure of linux? Such as why there is /usr/lib and /lib
[12:52] <iceman> bob2 it is finaly downloading ... 14.5 mb of infor ... thanks for the extreme patients ...
[12:53] <cafuego> jsor: *nod* If it, just go the manual route. The package versions will probably sort themselves out later on when the mirrors update.
[12:53] <amitayk> bob2: I got it. Should I set it in the device field to "/dev/psaux"?
[12:53] <uga> madsen: Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation EN-1216 Ethernet adapter (rev 11)
[12:53] <bob2> amitayk: does it currently say "/dev/input/mice"?
[12:53] <amitayk> bob2: Yeap.
[12:54] <bob2> amitayk: odd that it doesn't work then, but try changing it
[12:54] <jsor> cafuego, yeah, adding breezy-updates for universe took care of the problem.  thanks for your help
[12:54] <madsen> uga: Hmm... Try 'find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -iname "*tulip*"' and see if anything comes up.
[12:54] <flint> has anyone out there dealt with making exim read more than one "canonical" machine name?  I need to have mail.flint.com get mail for flint.com as well.
[12:54] <Kassah> how do I go about setting up my desktop to span two monitors?
[12:54] <flint> gott love a good pun...
[12:55] <Kassah> is there a user friendly way of doing it?
[12:55] <starscalling> oo
[12:55] <bob2> flint: should be simple
[12:55] <flint> Kassah, not that i know of.
[12:55] <starscalling> that sounds like fun Kassah :)
[12:55] <bob2> Kassah: "xinerama" is the key word, search the wiki
[12:56] <Kassah> whee! off I go
[12:56] <uga> madsen: there's a xircom_tulip_cb, but it doesn't seem to load the card
[12:56] <madsen> uga: Hmm... Hang on a sec...
[12:56] <flint> bob2, /etc/exim/exim.conf would be the place, but what is the tag?
[12:56] <uga> madsen: uhmm... not sure if I should kiss you ;)
[12:57] <bob2> flint: you're using exim3?
[12:57] <bob2> tha's YHL, HAND territory
[12:57] <uga> madsen: something weird happenned, not sure if I was just lucky and it worked on this boot.. or ... I loaded all tulip inner modules one by one, trying to ifup eth0 on each
[12:57] <madsen> uga: Huh? I'm not sure about that either? Why would you want to do that? :)
[12:57] <HaroldJohnson_> Anyone here use text browsers?
[12:57] <uga> madsen: then I loaded tulip, and it pings my router! =)
[12:57] <uga> that's why ;P
[12:57] <jonny> cyphase...
[12:57] <flint> bob2, actually that is one of the problems bob, it appears to be exim & exim4
[12:57] <bob2> HaroldJohnson_: lots of people, best if you just ask your question
[12:57] <CrakerJak> bob2, yea I removed the savedefault from Ubuntu and added to Windowsos that it!!
[12:57] <madsen> uga: Weird!
[12:57] <bob2> flint: get rid of the exim package
[12:58] <amitayk> bob2: Well I've fuck it all up. I didn't notice this is a SERIAL connection and not a PS/2.   Rebuilding with Postfix seems like a good idea.  Thanks
[12:58] <jonny> cyphase...IT WORKED!
[12:58] <uga> madsen: in debian if I'm not wrong, it began working after I removed every iptable related module. I thought it was firewall related. Now I think it must be something debian does to the kernel...
[12:58] <HaroldJohnson_> Let me rephrase the question: What's your opinion of the best text browser out there?
[12:58] <bob2> flint: yeah, postfix will ask you this directly
[12:58] <madsen> uga: Do yourself a favour - if it's working now, do 'lsmod | awk {'print $1'} > ~/modules_list_working.txt' and save that file in case it should break on next boot.
[12:58] <bob2> HaroldJohnson_: links2
[12:59] <uga> madsen: ah sure, thanks
[12:59] <jonny> IT WORKED! IT WORKED!,cyphase!
[12:59] <nadia> Harold, Lynx
[12:59] <madsen> uga: Then you'll always know what modules were loaded when it worked. ;)
[12:59] <cyphase> hey jonny
[12:59] <jonny> woohoo
[12:59] <mike998> is there any way to make nautilus launch (for example when opening your home directory) to launch with the --no-desktop option?
[12:59] <jonny> this is so much better
[12:59] <cyphase> lol
[12:59] <cyphase> you installed it i take it
[12:59] <iceman> where can i find out hard drive space
[12:59] <madsen> uga: Uh, that might be it yeah... I think it _is_ firewall related - never used it though.
[12:59] <cyphase> tha twas fast..
[12:59] <cyphase> that was*
[12:59] <HaroldJohnson_> bob2, Why do you believe links2 is the best?
[12:59] <jonny> and, I finished my homework:)
[12:59] <bob2> HaroldJohnson_: just works
[01:00] <madsen> mike998: I think you can configure nautilus (in the prefs) not to handle the desktop at all...
[01:00] <mike998> ah-hah!
[01:00] <mike998> gconf
[01:00] <iceman> bob2 78% of wine downloaded
[01:00] <jonny> that took a lot less time than installing warty.
[01:00] <cyphase> yea
[01:01] <nadia> iceman, applications --> system tools --> system monitor --> devices
[01:01] <jonny> i dont feel like im in the 70s anymore
[01:01] <stimpie> what is a good,simple java ide?
[01:01] <madsen> mike998: Yeah, they must have removed it from the prefs. (?)
[01:01] <uga> madsen: I'm rebooting now... I hope it's not just by chance it worked, or that when I upgrade (just like debian) it won't stop working...
[01:01] <madsen> uga: K, good luck! I'm crossing my fingers! :)
[01:02] <mike998> madsen: probably like the ability to have custom icons for your launchers
[01:02] <edi> hey, im new to linux can someone please tell me how to get to the command line
[01:02] <uga> madsen: me too, it's 1am and this will be my last chance today ;)
[01:02] <madsen> uga: Heh, it's 1am here too, where are you located?
[01:02] <nadia> edi, applications --> accessories --> terminal.
[01:02] <bob2> edi: applications -> system -> terminal
[01:02] <iceman> bob2 ok still have myhroot up, and wine seems to have installed ... now ?
[01:03] <bob2> iceman: now run it
[01:03] <madsen> bob2: It's not there anymore. ;)
[01:03] <edi> thanks you
[01:03] <iceman> bob2 "type" wine "
[01:03] <uga> madsen: north spain
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> edi: You can either go to the Terminal under the Applications list, or press Ctrl-Alt-F(any number).
[01:03] <jonny> this feels a lot like mac OS 9
[01:03] <madsen> uga: Oh, ok. Denmark here. :)
[01:03] <cyphase> lol
[01:03] <jonny> no, im serious
[01:03] <uga> madsen: btw, something is b0rked and it's scary. It worked without touching anything, just ifup eth0
[01:03] <cafuego> jonny: Yes, it's nice, isn't it :-)
[01:03] <iceman> bob2 see #flood
[01:03] <bob2> iceman: yes...
[01:04] <bob2> madsen: oh, good point
[01:04] <bob2> edi: sorry about that
[01:04] <jonny> im yet to dual boot, though
[01:04] <uga> madsen: what I can't be sure is it won't fail again on following reboots :/
[01:04] <bob2> iceman: yes, drop out of the chroot and "dchroot" back in, so you're running wine as your normal user
[01:04] <madsen> uga: Hmm, true... But if you got the list of modules, then you can (hopefully) restore it to a working state if it b0rks again...
[01:05] <uga> madsen: in one of my debian tests, I found it worked once or twice after I started up using a mdk live CD
[01:05] <uga> but on the next boot it failed again
[01:05] <madsen> uga: Lol! That's fscked!
[01:05] <uga> yes
[01:05] <iceman> bob2 nope .. posted output in #flood
[01:05] <bob2> iceman: cd /home/iceman
[01:05] <madsen> uga: It's strange, I've never had that kind of problems with Debian - not plain Debian at least...
[01:05] <P8ntKid> bob2, Ok its finished. Im gona reboot and see what i get. Wish me lucj.
[01:05] <P8ntKid> luck
[01:05] <uga> madsen: I think debian felt threatened with a mdk install ;)
[01:06] <madsen> uga: Lol! Yeah, that's like my Thinkpad w/ Linux... It always behaves when there's a Mac nearby... It knows it's inferior. :-p
[01:06] <uga> madsen: this laptop has had debian on it for ages too, just I didn't upgrade for long time and the last apt get was 600 packs
[01:06] <madsen> uga: Ugh. :/
[01:06] <iceman> bob2 it hates me ... #flood post
[01:06] <jonny> how can I get KDE on breezy?
[01:06] <uga> including the gcc4 switch, etc
[01:06] <madsen> jonny: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:07] <jonny> thx
[01:07] <uga> madsen: lol@ mac thing =)
[01:07] <bob2> iceman: you still hjaven't done what I said an hour ago
[01:07] <bob2> iceman: get out, 'sudo mkdir -p /var/chroot/home/iceman ; sudo chown iceman /var/chroot/home/iceman/'
[01:07] <cafuego> jonny: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' will grab all you need.
[01:07] <madsen> Well, does anyone know how to block a driver from taking control of my tablet when I plug it in?
[01:08] <jonny> ok
[01:08] <iceman> bob2 i got windows overlapping here ...
[01:08] <cafuego> bob2: bind mount. he needs proc too, as well as /tmp
[01:08] <bob2> cafuego: yeah, true
[01:08] <cafuego> bob2: Otherwise Xauth will go poo very hard
[01:08] <bastardkestrel> hi
[01:09] <sexcopter8000m> hi, how can you retrieve your nickserv password on freenode?
[01:09] <cafuego> sexcopter8000m: You can't
[01:09] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: visit #freenode and ask politely
[01:09] <iceman> bob2 ok that worked .. posted in flood
[01:09] <cafuego> sexcopter8000m: They're stored in encrypted form
[01:10] <sexcopter8000m> ok cafuego, nalioth, thanks
[01:10] <P8ntKid> bob2, Yes! Everything went great. Thanks for the help!
[01:10] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: if you visit #freenode, they will reset it, if you linked a email address to your nick
[01:11] <bob2> P8ntKid: np
[01:11] <iceman> bob2 i take it wine may have just tried to run ... although i did not point it at a program
[01:11] <war-totem> can you actually partition with the gparted tool?
[01:11] <nalioth> war-totem: yes
[01:11] <war-totem> im not seeing how to
[01:11] <war-totem> nalioth: im not seeing any options to create
[01:12] <nalioth> war-totem: it wont work on a mounted partition
[01:12] <iceman> now how to point wine to run diablo II
[01:12] <corincole> nalioth, can u please tell me the command to completely end the gui?
[01:12] <corincole> or anyone
[01:12] <war-totem> nalioth: i have to unmount my partition? then when do i create a new one?
[01:12] <madsen> corincole: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:12] <nalioth> corincole: you mean like "ctrl-alt-backspace"?
[01:12] <corincole> no, madsen's one is it
[01:12] <corincole> ;)
[01:13] <nalioth> corincole: madsen got it for ya
[01:13] <madsen> corincole: That'll shut down X - ctrl-alt-backspace will restart it.
[01:13] <corincole> ok
[01:13] <nalioth> war-totem: got a livecd?
[01:13] <war-totem> nalioth:  no
[01:13] <corincole> or /etc/init.d/gdm start i assume
[01:13] <GTroy> what's a good access path for a second partition?
[01:13] <iceman> bob2 i have diablo II sitting in a DOS partition, now how to point Wine to that directory, which linux see's as a dos folder
[01:13] <war-totem> nalioth: is their another tooli should use for partition?
[01:13] <madsen> corincole: Well, that'll start it if it's stopped and bitch if it's not... 'restart' will, well, restart it. ;)
[01:14] <bob2> iceman: you'll have to find someone else to help you, good luck
[01:14] <bob2> iceman: cafuego outlined the steps you have to do, up
[01:14] <corincole> and whats the command line irc software again?
[01:14] <madsen> corincole: irssi-text?
[01:14] <corincole> irssi
[01:14] <corincole> :)
[01:14] <corincole> thanks
[01:14] <corincole> brb lol
[01:14] <madsen> np :)
[01:14] <nalioth> war-totem: ya got qtparted, gparted, parted, fdisk, cfdisk, and probably some others i'm forgetting
[01:15] <war-totem> nalioth: ok ill start on those then
[01:15] <war-totem> nalioth: thanks
[01:15] <madsen> corincole: Why are you shutting down X and going console? (I'm just curious 'cause everyone else seems to be going more and more gui.)
[01:15] <iceman> bob2 cant locate steps up, there lost
[01:15] <bob2> iceman: nope, scroll up
[01:15] <madsen> war-totem: I've always used fdisk/cfdisk - they're pretty neat.
[01:15] <iceman> bob2 did cant go that high up i guess
[01:16] <bob2> iceman: if your irc client is so shit that you can't scroll up, I have no sympathy, sorry
[01:16] <war-totem> madsen: do you have to use both of them?
[01:16] <amitayk> bob2: Well, I have tried what you tell me up to three ports (I don't have more) and none of them seem to work.
[01:16] <war-totem> madsen: or just one
[01:16] <iceman> bob2 i scrooled up, cant go that far ...
[01:16] <madsen> war-totem: One should suffice. :) cfdisk is probably best if you don't dig command lines and stuff. :)
[01:16] <bob2> iceman: then you need a less useless irc client.  I suggest irssi-text or xchat.  anyway, good luck
[01:17] <war-totem> madsen: :) thanks
[01:17] <bimberi> war-totem: in gparted, if you click on unallocated space the "New" button should become available
[01:18] <iceman> bob2 point me to where wine is in chroot directory
[01:19] <erisco> i am having trouble getting samba working
[01:19] <erisco> i followed the FAQ guide
[01:19] <erisco> but i still cannot view the network
[01:19] <madsen> iceman: To be frank, I think you're pushing it a little with bob2 now - he's been very helpful and patient.
[01:19] <erisco> um... specifics...
[01:20] <bob2> iceman: I've spent 2.5 hours helping you this morning, I do have to do some actual paid work at some point so I can eat this week.
[01:20] <iceman> if i can find wine's location, i can point diablo ii to run from there
[01:20] <erisco> samba appears to be functioning properly, yet when i go to Places, Network Servers, and click on Windows Network, nothing it viewable
[01:20] <amitayk> bob2: Well, I have tried what you tell me, up to three ports (I don't have more), and none of them seem to work.
[01:21] <daniel_> new ubuntu user: wondering, what is the default root password? I should probably change it, but I didn't see it asked during the install
[01:21] <starscalling> daniel_, its disabled by default
[01:21] <wotnarg> daniel_: there is no root, use sudo
[01:21] <starscalling> instead there is this awesome sudo thing :)
[01:21] <erisco> which isn't that awesome!
[01:21] <warren1> i have a thinkpad t40... and the default ubuntu install doesn't seem to do my graphic card justice... like it's full color/resolution, but like i can see the the refresh in screensavers, and when it fades out when i log out it's super chopy and stuff..... any suggestions?
[01:21] <P8ntKid> What is the thing i need to download in order to do ./configure?
[01:21] <iceman> to get this far, get wine installed, and then get let hanging .. make it all seem a waste
[01:21] <bob2> daniel_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:21] <bob2> P8ntKid: way too vague
[01:21] <erisco> can anyone assist my samba problem?
[01:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell daniel_ about root
[01:22] <nalioth> P8ntKid: build-essential
[01:22] <P8ntKid> bob2, Well. Since i just reinstalled ubuntu. It wont let me do ./configure in order to compile the source of something.
[01:22] <bob2> P8ntKid: and the source is...?
[01:22] <P8ntKid> nalioth, Thanks. Thats waht i wanted.
[01:22] <corincole> hmmm...  i forgot which server to conenct to lol
[01:22] <erisco> yes it is build-essential
[01:22] <P8ntKid> bob2, Nvm. I got it.
[01:22] <erisco> anyone going to third that motion?
[01:22] <iceman> /var/ and from there where is wine
[01:22] <corincole> btw, is there any command-line software for browsing the www?
[01:23] <bimberi> corincole: lynx
[01:23] <madsen> corincole: lynx, links, links2
[01:23] <corincole> ok
[01:23] <corincole> :D
[01:23] <DruQks> Jeebus H. Christington!
[01:23] <uga> madsen: propagandhi: anyway, thanks for the help a lot. So far it's working, even if I'm sure something smells nasty in the kernel. Hopefully following kernel upgrades will polish issues
[01:23] <amitayk> bob2: Well, I have tried what you tell me, up to three ports (I don't have more), and none of them seem to work.
[01:23] <Kassah> brb... gonna try out my edits
[01:23] <uga> now off for bed...
[01:23] <uga> goodnight
[01:23] <madsen> corincole: elinks has tabs afaicr. :)
[01:23] <corincole> and, u can guess what else i want.....
[01:23] <jonny> SO i would like to install a game, I've extracted the folder, but now what?
[01:23] <corincole> how to close gui again lol
[01:23] <corincole> (i will write it down this time :P)
[01:23] <erisco> jonny, what kind of game?
[01:24] <erisco> it isn't windows is it?
[01:24] <madsen> corincole: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:24] <daniel_> thanks all :)
[01:24] <DruQks> Allright, can someone tell me this: I've installed ubuntu, everything looks fine except for the fact that I get a black screen when the graphical interface should be loading up. It finished loading up all the checks. . . then bam, just a black screen.
[01:24] <nalioth> corincole: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:24] <madsen> corincole: mail -> pine or mutt
[01:24] <bimberi> corincole: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[01:24] <DruQks> The question is, how to fix? ;)
[01:24] <starscalling> hehe
[01:24] <corincole> madsen, u read my mind
[01:24] <corincole> :P
[01:24] <corincole> msn?
[01:24] <starscalling> and the winner is madsen :P
[01:24] <corincole> lol
[01:24] <P8ntKid> bob2, Im trying to install fluxbox and when i do ./configure I get configure: error: Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers.
[01:24] <kjdis> I've been trying to config a kernel, but video goes black right after it starts booting the kernel, and then I can still hear the HD going a bit longer and then it stops, log shows no errors, anyone got suggestions?
[01:24] <jonny> from the internet...   .tar.gz
[01:24] <madsen> corincole: centericq
[01:25] <erisco> P8ntKid, apt-cache search
[01:25] <corincole> really? for msn?
[01:25] <corincole> :P
[01:25] <madsen> corincole: RSS feeds -> snownews
[01:25] <madsen> corincole: Yup
[01:25] <erisco> P8ntKid, look for the -dev required to support those
[01:25] <bob2> P8ntKid: fluxbox is in ubuntu already
[01:25] <jonny> anyone?
[01:25] <Kassah> buya!
[01:25] <corincole> what about system monitor?
[01:25] <corincole> :P
[01:25] <iceman> (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:~$ wine /dos/diablo ii/diablo ii.exe
[01:25] <iceman> wine: cannot find '/dos/diablo'
[01:25] <iceman> (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:~$
[01:25] <erisco> jonny, what kind of game is this?
[01:25] <Kassah> first try... dual monitor works great!
[01:25] <madsen> corincole: You could also look into using bitlbee instead, then you can use your favourite irc-client (irssi of course) for msn - and in an irc-like manner. :)
[01:26] <erisco> jonny, it does not sound linux based
[01:26] <jonny> what do you mean?
[01:26] <P8ntKid> bob2, Yes. But not the newest version. I think ubuntu has 0.9.13 Im trying to get 0.9.14
[01:26] <erisco> jonny, is this a windows game?
[01:26] <jonny> linux game
[01:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell P8ntKid about xincludes
[01:26] <corincole> bitlbee?
[01:26] <erisco> jonny, well you can use apt-get for those
[01:26] <corincole> wait, brb in command
[01:26] <erisco> jonny, which game is this?
[01:26] <corincole> what is the server?
[01:26] <corincole> :P
[01:26] <wotnarg> I never quite got load advarage, whats the optimum value for it?
[01:26] <bob2> P8ntKid: they've added critical new features in a minor minor revision?
[01:26] <jonny> it's called: snowball
[01:26] <blackvd> say I'm having a weird but probably easy problem to fix. When I try and su in terminal and give it my password it says  'Authentication failure'?
[01:26] <bob2> P8ntKid: anyway, 'sudo apt-get build-dep fluxbox'
[01:27] <bob2> wotnarg: 0 = system has nothing to do
[01:27] <amitayk> bob2: I've changed to protocol to "Auto" and now everything is working fine. Thanks a lot! Good night (At least in my time zone the hour is late).
[01:27] <madsen> corincole: Oh, I can't remember - but I think bitlbee.org might now... Or bitlbee.sf.net (can't remember the url).
[01:27] <bob2> blackvd: duh, wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:27] <danl> whats teh default filesystem selected when installing ubuntu?
[01:27] <amitayk> bob2: Chag Shamach
[01:27] <wotnarg> bob2: whats the topend value, 1, 10, 100?
[01:27] <ryanpg> hi... I see "dapper exists now" where do I find the repository?
[01:27] <danl> i need to mount a drive it formatted
[01:27] <bimberi> iceman, try quoting it - wine "/dos/diablo ii/diablo ii.exe"
[01:27] <corincole> madsen, i'll check when ive left gui, what irc server are we on?
[01:27] <erisco> jonny, hmm snowball isn't supported by apt
[01:27] <bob2> amitayk: np
[01:27] <HrdwrBoB> ryanpg: you don't
[01:27] <erisco> jonny, so you are looking to compile this game?
[01:27] <bob2> wotnarg: thousands if the machine is screwed
[01:27] <madsen> corincole: irc.freenode.net
[01:27] <corincole> ok
[01:27] <bob2> ryanpg: if you have to ask, you shouldn't be using it at all
[01:27] <nalioth> P8ntKid: check your private messages
[01:27] <erisco> jonny, compiling is very complicated...
[01:28] <wotnarg> bob2: So having a single or double digit load adv isnt bad?
[01:28] <natex> danl,  ext3
[01:28] <jonny> um...i dunno I just want to install it
[01:28] <danl> thats what i thought...
[01:28] <erisco> jonny, to install it you need to configure it, compile it, then install it
[01:28] <erisco> jonny, which can be a hard and dangerous thing
[01:28] <madsen> corincole: Basically, just 'irssi -c irc.freenode.net' and then (in irssi) /join #ubuntu :)
[01:28] <bob2> wotnarg: yes, it is bad
[01:28] <P8ntKid> nalioth, I did.
[01:28] <danl> it wouldn't mount... odd... all i did was accidently initrd.splash
[01:28] <iceman> bimberi (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:~$ wine "/dos/diablo II/diablo ii.exe"
[01:28] <iceman> wine: cannot find '/dos/diablo II/diablo ii.exe'
[01:28] <iceman> (mychroot)iceman@icebox64:~$
[01:28] <erisco> jonny, if you do not know what you are doing
[01:28] <ryanpg> I've been looking around ftp.ubunut.com thinking it would be uner dists/daper or testing... but nope
[01:28] <jonny> well, actually what is a game that is supported by  apt
[01:29] <erisco> jonny, i suggest you find a game supported with apt
[01:29] <nalioth> P8ntKid: then you should be set on x dev libs
[01:29] <jonny> where?
[01:29] <erisco> jonny, if it is supported by apt, why don't you apt-get install <package>
[01:29] <bimberi> iceman: where is this "dos" directory?  if it's in the current directory then leave out the first /
[01:29] <Puffball> when I type 'sudo su root' and enter the password, it switches to root, but when I try to execute anything from the terminal, it shows "Permission Denied"; any suggestions?
[01:29] <jonny> but haw do I know if it is supported by apt
[01:29] <jonny> how*
[01:30] <P8ntKid> nalioth, Thanks. Works.
[01:30] <bob2> Puffball: that's a silly thing to do, anyway
[01:30] <erisco> jonny, apt-cache search
[01:30] <erisco> jonny, apt-cache search <keyword>
[01:30] !lilo:*! Hi all. A new special interest channel is being set up for folk involved with physical therapy to compare notes, and for people who need information on physical-therapy-related topics. If this is you, please stop by ##physicaltherapy .... thanks!
[01:30] <bob2> Puffball: and you need to show us a full paste of the outputi in #flood
[01:30] <erisco> jonny, i already searched
[01:30] <iceman> bimberi dos in in the root directory ...
[01:30] <madsen> erisco: Try 'apt-cache search game' and you'll get a pretty long list....
[01:30] <Puffball> okay.
[01:30] <jonny> in the terminal
[01:30] <jonny> ?
[01:30] <iceman> a folder ... actualy a mounted dos partition
[01:30] <erisco> jonny, try apt-cache search game |less
[01:30] <jonny> ok
[01:30] <corincole> hey
[01:30] <madsen> jonny: There or search for 'game' in synaptic.
[01:30] <erisco> jonny, look for a supported game
[01:30] <corincole> :)
[01:31] <jonny> ok
[01:31] <bimberi> iceman: then you'll need to check that those directories and filenames are correct (including capitalisation)
[01:31] <thrush> jonny: compiling stuff is not a big deal  sudo apt-get install build-essential, unpack it and look at the readme
[01:31] <xxtreme> hello, does anyone know how to disable tapping on a notebook with breezy
[01:31] <erisco> jonny, wesnoth is one of my favourites
[01:31] <erisco> thrush, no it is
[01:31] <corincole> oh well, having come back, im going to go to bed, im tired
[01:31] <madsen> jonny: Yeah, wesnoth is definitely worth a try...
[01:31] <corincole> how do I exit irssi?
[01:31] <corincole> :P
[01:31] <erisco> thrush, you can break a lot of things with compiling
[01:31] <dooglus> snowball is a python game.  it doesn't need building.
[01:31] <madsen> corincole: /quit
[01:31] <corincole> k
[01:31] <corincole> thanks
[01:31] <thrush> corincole: '/quit'
[01:31] <erisco> thrush, if it is a more majour thing
[01:31] <corincole> im sure i'll be back soon to ask for more hel
[01:32] <jonny> in synaptic, how do you search?
[01:32] <nalioth> corincole: /quit
[01:32] <corincole> madsen, u always beat them to it, dont you
[01:32] <corincole> lol
[01:32] <corincole> nalioth, too late
[01:32] <erisco> jonny, did you add all the repositories?
[01:32] <cyphase> jonny, you click the big button that says search
[01:32] <cyphase> :)
[01:32] <madsen> corincole: Well, in some cases I do. :)
[01:32] <nalioth> jonny: find the button marked 'search'
[01:32] <corincole> bye all
[01:32] <jonny> ok
[01:32] <nalioth> corincole: lag is not nice, you should be
[01:32] <madsen> corincole: Bye! :)
[01:32] <erisco> is games and entertainment on default?
[01:32] <madsen> nalioth: lol!
[01:32] <erisco> or is that another repository?
[01:32] <jonny> sorry i did not see that
[01:32] <nalioth> erisco: there are games in all repos, i'm sure
[01:33] <starscalling> so how goes monday nalioth ?
[01:33] <erisco> nalioth, most likely, there are three sections to it
[01:33] <corincole> sorry nalioth, just kidding
[01:33] <corincole> :'(
[01:33] <samuel_> openoffice does not detect
[01:33] <nalioth> starscalling: monday? what's that?
[01:33] <samuel_> my printer...why is htat?
[01:33] <iceman> bimberi dang how to get thiw to see that dos directory ...
[01:33] <xxtreme> nalioth_ do you know how to disable tapping on a notebook, its too sensitive and annoying
[01:33] <starscalling> LOL
[01:34] <samuel_> it only prints to generic and it wont let me change it
[01:34] <ryanpg> sorry for repeating myself but... where does the dapper repository exist?
[01:34] <erisco> nalioth, you do not want to know what Monday is.
[01:34] <nalioth> xxtreme: i'm not much on adjusting input devices
[01:34] <iceman> or a command to run wine from dchroot
[01:34] <Puffball> bob2: I'm try to execute a file with ./, but using sudo ./..., it doesn't recognize the command
[01:34] <bob2> ryanpg: don't use it
[01:34] <bob2> Puffball: yes, that's clear
[01:34] <bob2> Puffball: the file you're trying to run is not executable
[01:34] <madsen> So... Two guys, /quit and /exit, were sitting in a row boat... /exit falls in the water and drows (oh, no!), who's left?
[01:34] <bob2> Puffball: chmod a+x ./whatever
[01:34] <bimberi> iceman: can you navigate to it? - cd /dos
[01:34] <Puffball> bob2: Oh @_@
[01:34] <ncp> any good ftp clients? ncftp and gftp is ok, but have the use for fxp and only found iglooftp that works, but its not free, so what other clients could people recommend?
[01:34] <erisco> alright back to samba... why can't i see my network? everything appears configured properly
[01:34] <bob2> haha fxp.
[01:35] <daniel_> Mount Question: When trying to mount an existing ntfs filesystem (read-only, obviously) the only way I can traverse the directories is to use "sudo" - any way around?
[01:35] <Puffball> bob2: thanks
[01:35] <samuel_> anyone
[01:35] <samuel_> ?
[01:35] <nalioth> ncp: search synaptic for "ftp" use all you find, keep what you like
[01:35] <linux-noob> Hey, IS there a Boot flopy that will have driver for a USB cdrom so i can instll ubuntu on my laptop
[01:35] <thrush> daniel mounting windows partition?
[01:35] <bob2> daniel_: umask=000 in the options field
[01:35] <nalioth> daniel_: adjust your permissions in your fstab
[01:35] <bob2> linux-noob: not simply
[01:36] <erisco> ftp? is someone looking for a ftp client?
[01:36] <ncp> erisco, yes i am
[01:36] <starscalling> ncp i happen to kinda like gftp :)
[01:36] <erisco> ncp, use mc
[01:36] <starscalling> but there are many good ones in there :P
[01:36] <madsen> ncp: lftp is nice - but command line.
[01:36] <erisco> ncp, sudo apt-get install mc
[01:36] <ncp> well both mc and gftp are fine clients
[01:36] <erisco> ncp, it is the best ftp client i have ever seen
[01:36] <iceman> ok, how to move a file from a dos partiton to the dchroot area, where i can point wine to see  it
[01:36] <erisco> ncp, gftp was absolute crap for me
[01:36] <samuel_> anyon...this is important
[01:37] <linux-noob> bob2: well does ubuntu have a networke install ?
[01:37] <thrush> midnight commander is an ftp client too?
[01:37] <erisco> ncp, couldn't do a load worth of ***
[01:37] <starscalling> mc huh, ill have to try that one :)
[01:37] <erisco> yes it is thrush
[01:37] <bob2> linux-noob: that runs from a CD, yes.
[01:37] <jonny> does macromedia flash come in synaptic?
[01:37] <erisco> I AM TELLING YOU ALL! USE MC!
[01:37] <erisco> It is the bset ftp client
[01:37] <erisco> best*
[01:37] <Seveas> erisco, stop shouting
[01:37] <bob2> jonny: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:37] <dooglus> mc?  ugh.
[01:37] <jonny> thank you
[01:37] <erisco> dooglus, aw comon, what is wrong with it?
[01:37] <starscalling> darn bob2 is fast
[01:37] <ncp> but just wanted to se if there was another program that could do the job better, but by the sound of it, i'm allready useing the best
[01:37] <dooglus> erisco: it's like linux-for-dummies.
[01:38] <iceman> Stupid restricted root access
[01:38] <erisco> dooglus, simple is best
[01:38] <jonny> is there a way to copy stuff in xchat?
[01:38] <dooglus> erisco: isn't it better to learn the command line than to rely on mc?
[01:38] <erisco> dooglus, why strain yourself?
[01:38] <linux-noob> bob2: is there any way to instal with a cd ?
[01:38] <nalioth> erisco: use all that has been suggested, keep what YOU like
[01:38] <erisco> dooglus, well mc has a bit of command line
[01:38] <bob2> iceman: no, your problem has nothing to do with that
[01:38] <cyphase> jonny, it'll copy what you select
[01:38] <erisco> whoa whoa, i just just telling that mc was the best ftp client
[01:38] <erisco> never said you HAD to use it
[01:39] <daniel_> thanks again everyone
[01:39] <linux-noob> bob2: is there any way to instal with a cd ?
[01:39] <nalioth> linux-noob: install what?
[01:39] <iceman> bob2 just directing wine to a floder on the regular filesystem... floder called dos, which is the actual dos partition on a harddrive
[01:39] <bob2> linux-noob: your question sucks
[01:39] <linux-noob> bob2: Ubuntu
[01:39] <erisco> bob2, lol
[01:39] <bob2> linux-noob: presumably you mean "Is it possible to install from a CD in a USB CD-ROM drive?"

[01:40] <bob2> no, the 500 000 000 cds that got sent out are not installable
[01:40] <bob2> you can only mount them on your mantlepiece
[01:40] <bob2> linux-noob: if your bios can boot the cd rom drive, it will probably work
[01:40] <erisco> oh and btw linux-noob, never, ever say "it doesn't work". I got flamed for that once =p
[01:40] <iceman> roflmao
[01:40] <bob2> linux-noob: if not, go to your LUG and ask for help
[01:40] <perlhead> Is there a way to find out exactly which patches have been applied to the 2.6.12 kernel in breezy?
[01:41] <bob2> perlhead: by reading the changelog and looking at the .diff.gz.
[01:41] <perlhead> I want to get swsusp2 working (swsusp does not work)
[01:41] <Seveas> perlhead, apt-get install linux-patch-ubuntu
[01:41] <bob2> perlhead: if it doesn't work, file a bug
[01:41] <bob2> perlhead: it should work for everyone
[01:41] <erisco> can i file a bug for samba? it aint working for me =(
[01:41] <iceman> Just pointing "wine" to the location of Diablo II.exe and i would be done i think
[01:41] <DruQks> I'm trying to edit my xorg.conf file with vim but it says it's read only. What do I do?
[01:41] <perlhead> Seveas: I got the linux-patch-ubuntu
[01:41] <bob2> if your problem is "it doesn't work with the nvidia or ati binary modules loaded", then you lose
[01:41] <bob2> DruQks: sudo vim /etc/whatever
[01:42] <perlhead> Seveas: it has a huge patch... I need to know which individual patches have been applied
[01:42] <linux-noob> bob2: ok here is my prob, I have a fujitsu p 1110 and it has no cd rom, but i baught a USB cdrom  but is still does not recognize the usb when i boot my laptop
[01:42] <bob2> linux-noob: right, which is a bios issue
[01:42] <raz0rsharp> any GTK developers here? the gtk channel is dead (specifically C and linux for GTK) ... please send me a message if you don't mnd
[01:42] <raz0rsharp> mind
[01:42] <bob2> perlhead: /usr/share/doc/linux-patch-ubuntu
[01:42] <erisco> bios, what is cool word
[01:42] <erisco> just like "ping"
[01:42] <ryanpg> ok... last try before I go off to google my way to an answer... does the dapper repository need time to spread through mirrors or am I looking in the entirely wrong places?
[01:42] <erisco> like seriously who would think of ping
[01:43] <bob2> raz0rsharp: please don't do that, it's way mroe annoying than just asking a question
[01:43] <erisco> eh, don't mind me
[01:43] <bob2> ryanpg: seriously, don't do it
[01:43] <linux-noob> bob2: i checked bios and it has he usb on, it recognize my usb flopy drive but not my usb cd drive
[01:43] <bob2> ryanpg: if you don't even know how to edit your sources.list, using the development version 1 hour after it opens is a terrible idea
[01:43] <nalioth> ryanpg: just ask your question
[01:43] <madsen> Does anyone know how to restore the original usplash? Let's just say someone accidentally installed xubuntu-artwork-usplash and saw that it was fugly and wants the original back...  It just one huge patch
[01:43] <bob2> DruQks: :wq
[01:43] <raz0rsharp> bob2 sorry, how do i get user input (basically like read(0, buffer, len)) to be tied to a text view?
[01:43] <ryanpg> nalioth, ok... where's the "dapper repository"?
[01:43] <iceman> well 76% of the dang x86 cd downloaded, my be faster that getting this in 64 bit
[01:44] <nalioth> ryanpg: what is that?
[01:44] <raz0rsharp> this is for GTK
[01:44] <madsen> DruQks: :w to save :q to quit
[01:44] <DruQks> Thanks :D
[01:44] <erisco> oh well, time to pull out the good old floppy
[01:44] <bob2> raz0rsharp: I'd think you'd select() on the fd and update it yourself
[01:44] <ryanpg> nalioth, heh it's where unstable development debs make their first appearences ;)
[01:44] <erisco> forget samba
[01:44] <madsen> DruQks: np. I <3 vim. :)
[01:44] <bimberi> DruQks: some people find nano a bit easier to use
[01:44] <linux-noob> bob2: i checked bios and it has he usb on, it recognize my usb flopy drive but not my usb cd drive
[01:44] <bob2> ryanpg: why do you think you should be using dapper?
[01:44] <madsen> erisco: That's what he said... No wait.. :-/
[01:44] <bob2> linux-noob: that's great, but not an ubuntu issue
[01:45] <nalioth> ryanpg: i wouldnt advise dapper for a few months
[01:45] <erisco> madsen, i kinda lost you there :s
[01:45] <raz0rsharp> bob2 but if you type in the text view, stdin doesn't get the data ...
[01:45] <bob2> seriously, it will be utterly smashed for the next couple of weeks
[01:45] <bob2> raz0rsharp: you want to read() fro ma text box?
[01:45] <ryanpg> bob2, because building xorg 7.0RC1 from source is a monster pain, I'd rather someone else do it
[01:45] <linux-noob> bob2: well is there a letworke in stall like debain has ?
[01:45] <bob2> raz0rsharp: I really doubt they have fd's
[01:45] <bob2> linux-noob: no
[01:45] <raz0rsharp> i know, that's my question
[01:45] <madsen> erisco: Nothing, just your "time to pull out the good old floppy". :-p
[01:45] <linux-noob> bob2: ok well thanks
[01:46] <raz0rsharp> how do i tie it to an fd? if that's not possible, do you know of a way to read input in terminal-like fashion (i.e. print out a prompt and read in user input one line at a time)
[01:46] <natex> linux-noob, can you change from where you lappy boots from?
[01:46] <erisco> madsen, well i would be lieing if i said it was new, or even in the near past
[01:46] <natex> linux-noob, in the bios?
[01:46] <madsen> raz0rsharp: Can't dialog/zenity do that...
[01:46] <bimberi> linux-noob: there are some other install methods described at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[01:46] <raz0rsharp> madsen, not sure what you're talking about ...
[01:46] <linux-noob> natex: umm what do you mean
[01:46] <madsen> erisco: Huh? Now you lost me... lol!
[01:47] <madsen> raz0rsharp: And I'm not sure what you're trying to do...
[01:47] <erisco> madsen, i mean i need to spend like 5min formatting a 1mb drive
[01:47] <madsen> raz0rsharp: :)
[01:47] <erisco> madsen, it is crazy
[01:47] <iceman> all the work to get the bootstrap setup , wine downloaded, boy then no way to launch the program.... maybe x86 install might be a little faster ..
[01:47] <natex> linux-noob, when your computer boots up, can you change your bios settings?
[01:47] <madsen> erisco: Hehe, I know... I was making a pad sexual pun on your line... ;p
[01:47] <bob2> iceman: stop it
[01:47] <linux-noob> natex : in bios it is set to boot all USB
[01:47] <raz0rsharp> madsen, i'm essentially trying to write a GTK gui application where one of the frames (a text view) is basically a terminal...has a prompt, reads input, does something based on that input
[01:47] <bob2> iceman: one more threat, and you will be gone from the channel for being so bloody annoying
[01:47] <erisco> madsen, key word: bad
[01:48] <erisco> whoa error in the disk format...
[01:48] <daniel_> Music: music player complains it has no mp3 codec - where can I get one?
[01:48] <bob2> daniel_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:48] <bob2> daniel_: (install gstreamer0.8-mad)
[01:48] <madsen> raz0rsharp: Oh, sorry... I thought it was the other way around - that you wanted a nice gtk input box displayed from a shell script. Sorry.
[01:48] <erisco> oh no my whole 1mb drive is ruined! and i am out of quaters to buy a new one
[01:48] <linux-noob> natex : in bios it is set to boot all USB
[01:48] <madsen> erisco: Yeah, I know. :(
[01:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell daniel_ about mp3
[01:48] <raz0rsharp> madsen, any ideas?
[01:49] <barber> how can I tell if my ltsp workstaton is using the X settings I have for it in my lts.conf? can I get a command prompt on the local machine?
[01:49] <bob2> perlhead: bzcat /usr/src/linux-patches/i386/2.6.12/debian/patch-2.6.12-9.23.bz2 | less
[01:49] <madsen> raz0rsharp: Sorry, not a clue... It's been a long while since I did any gtk programming.
[01:49] <iceman> bob2, just seems to have got this far, and then die, and get nowhere. I just want the dang thing to work, weather that be in a new install, or the present. it this 64 install is that big a pain in the but, maybe a install where there is less configuration for a newbie, "me" might be a better idea...
[01:49] <madsen> raz0rsharp: What programming language do you write it in?
[01:50] <bob2> iceman: that's great, but this threat stuff is both stupid and of no fucking use
[01:50] <bob2> iceman: if you think reinstalling is simpler, do so
[01:50] <erisco> Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[01:50] <raz0rsharp> madsen, bob2, thanks for your help... btw (and you know this), ubuntu rocks! long redhat/fedora core user now completely converted
[01:50] <erisco> seriously...
[01:50] <erisco> it formatted correctly...
[01:50] <raz0rsharp> madsen, C
[01:50] <natex> linux-noob, ok perhaps you should try another CD to make sure it is not the cd itself
[01:50] <perre> hi, how can i uninstall open office 1.1 ??? i want to install oo2.0
[01:50] <iceman> bob2, i'd settle for a web page on telling wine where to go...
[01:50] <natex> linux-noob, try a windows or other linux install cd
[01:51] <bob2> raz0rsharp: you were asking in #gtk+ on irc.gnome.irg?
[01:51] <linux-noob> well i put the ubunto cd im my wendows comp and it butted right up
[01:51] <madsen> raz0rsharp: Hmm, there must be a sh*tload of C channels around, aren't there?
[01:51] <erisco> linux-noob, you do have this as a image cd with the .iso image burned onto it?
[01:51] <erisco> linux-noob, i made the mistake of making a data cd =p
[01:51] <perre> hi, how can i uninstall open office 1.1 ??? i want to install oo2.0
[01:52] <thrush> linux-noob: if you look at the cd in another comp its not showing like ubunt.iso is it ;)
[01:52] <raz0rsharp> nah, i will, thx for the link bob2
[01:52] <perlhead> bob2: I *know*. but that just dumps a whole lot of patches at me. What I want to know is something along the lines of "the kernel includes the frob patch v2.3, the moby patch v4.5, and the whizzie driver patch vx.y"
[01:52] <linux-noob> natex: yes
[01:52] <zblach> howdy
[01:52] <raz0rsharp> thanks all!
[01:52] <raz0rsharp> sorry to bother! good luck in your endeavors
[01:52] <zblach> i have a few Fat32 partitions i want total access to. how can i do this again?
[01:52] <DruQks> ok so, how do I get back to the "desktop" after doing the ctrl|Alt|F2 thing :D
[01:52] <zblach> DruQks, Ctrl+Alt+F7
[01:52] <zblach> or F8
[01:52] <DruQks> Ahh.
[01:52] <zblach> can't remember
[01:52] <erisco> this isn't cool... something is wrong with my floppy drive :s
[01:53] <erisco> not the floppy
[01:53] <zblach> erisco, same
[01:53] <erisco> at least i asume
[01:53] <perre> hi, how can i uninstall open office 1.1 ??? i want to install oo2.0
[01:53] <perlhead> bob2: I want to patch swsusp2 into the kernel, but it seems to be incompatible.
[01:53] <bytefoo> people still have floppy drives? :|
[01:53] <bob2> perlhead: yes
[01:53] <perlhead> bob2: with the applied patches
[01:53] <erisco> believe it or not, yes
[01:53] <linux-noob> natex: IS there a flopy that can boot up a boot mode like it would check all of th usb ports ?
[01:53] <bob2> perlhead: surgery that major will require you to either use a kernel.org kernel, or become a kernel hacker and fix it to work on ubuntu kernels
[01:53] <erisco> i could format my floppy... but i cannot mount
[01:54] <erisco> Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[01:54] <erisco> what is this error?
[01:54] <eazel7> hi ppl
[01:54] <erisco> googling now
[01:54] <perlhead> bob2: if I had a list of the patches that are included in the kernel, I could do something between the two extremes
[01:54] <madsen> erisco: the annoying kind? :-p
[01:54] <eazel7> where can I find latest mono packages for breezy?
[01:54] <noke> how do i see what version of glibc i have ?
[01:54] <bob2> eazel7: in breezy.
[01:55] <perlhead> bob2: only it seems that such a list does not exist
[01:55] <bob2> noke: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1
[01:55] <bob2> noke: why?
[01:55] <madsen> noke: dpkg -l | grep glibc
[01:55] <bob2> perlhead: I'm sure it does, in the linux-source packages
[01:55] <eazel7> bob2, not the latest ones
[01:55] <noke> to install sicstus
[01:55] <natex> linux-noob, what brand/make of laptop?
[01:55] <bob2> eazel7: the latest ones for breezy are there
[01:55] <perre> hi, how can i uninstall open office 1.1 ??? i want to install oo2.0 kan anybody help me??? please
[01:55] <erisco> madsen: lol
[01:55] <eazel7> how will be called the next released?
[01:55] <bob2> eazel7: dapper drake
[01:56] <erisco> madsen: is there a kind that is not annoying?
[01:56] <eazel7> bob2, when will it be open for development?
[01:56] <dooglus> what's the recommended way to install dapper in a chroot?
[01:56] <madsen> erisco: Sorry about all the bad jokes - I'm too tired to even try doing anything constructive... :-/
[01:56] <bob2> eazel7: an hour ago
[01:56] <bob2> dooglus: debootstrap
[01:56] <eazel7> bob2, didn't know thanks
[01:56] <bob2> dooglus: (possibly doing breezy, then dist-upgrade)
[01:56] <linux-noob> natex: Fujitsu P1110
[01:56] <dooglus> bob2: I tried debootstrap.  there's no dapper script yet
[01:56] <bob2> dooglus: as above
[01:56] <madsen> erisco: Yeah, those that say "Error: are you sure you're running as root?".
[01:56] <GTroy> uhmm module /var/log/syslog not found what do I do?
[01:56] <dooglus> bob2: ok.  that's what I was doing next.  thanks :)
[01:56] <erisco> okay heads up for 5.10 users... nautilus has a known glitch with mounting floppy drives
[01:57] <bob2> GTroy: it's a file, not a module
[01:57] <noke> i need at glibc2.3, how do i get it ?
[01:57] <bob2> noke: no,  you don't
[01:57] <bob2> noke: whatever you're doing is wrong
[01:57] <noke> why ?
[01:57] <GTroy> modprobe /var/log/syslog doesn't work
[01:57] <bob2> GTroy: duh
[01:57] <WinZ> Hey friends! Help me please: how to look what is ppp0 connection speed in console?
[01:57] <madsen> erisco: Seriously though, who (but you) uses floppies at this day and age?
[01:57] <bob2> GTroy: 'modprobe your_mum' won't work, either
[01:57] <bob2> WinZ: pppstatus
[01:57] <erisco> madsen: sure i will take that one.... still better if it just didn't complain
[01:58] <GTroy> so don't worry about that step?
[01:58] <bob2> GTroy: what are you trying to do?
[01:58] <madsen> erisco: Indeed. :)
[01:58] <DjKritical> Does anyone know of a good program for resizing jpgs & gifs?.. Not one by one, but in batches?
[01:58] <erisco> madsen: i have no clue
[01:58] <bob2> DjKritical: "convert" from imagemagick
[01:58] <madsen> DjKritical: imagemagick
[01:58] <GTroy> install netgear wg111 usb wifi adapter
[01:58] <dooglus> DjKritical: look at the 'imagemagick' package
[01:58] <bob2> noke: you need to find binaries suitable for your OS
[01:58] <zblach> what fstab params do i need for +755 status on partitions?
[01:58] <DjKritical> 3 recommendations... must be good! thanks guys
[01:58] <linux-noob> natex: Fujitsu P1110
[01:58] <noke> i need to install sicstus
[01:58] <bob2> zblach: not partitions, windows filesystems
[01:59] <madsen> DjKritical: It's Grrreat! ;)
[01:59] <zblach> bob2, Fat32
[01:59] <bob2> zblach: 022 or so
[01:59] <BrutusUnix> I have ubuntu install on my iMac but can't get it to run level 3
[01:59] <noke> and i have it for dl for glibc2.1 2.2 and 2.3
[01:59] <madsen> DjKritical: It's command-line though... Just so you know...
[01:59] <erisco> it is labelled as (Bugzilla Bug # 17562)
[01:59] <dooglus> DjKritical: it's magick!
[01:59] <DjKritical> command line =(
[01:59] <zblach> so, ro,users,umask=022?
[01:59] <dooglus> BrutusUnix: run level 3 is the same as run level 2
[01:59] <zblach> **rw,users,umask=022
[01:59] <madsen> DjKritical: lol, don't be scared, it's the best! And it's not hard to use...
[01:59] <aduryee_> I'm having a problem with my Logitech Wingman controllers.  jscalibrator isn't reading the D-pad right, and ZSNES won't read the D-pad at all (everything esle works)
[01:59] <bob2> noke: your question is crap for the following reasons: you didn't say what sicstus was, or give a url.  you didn't tell us what version of ubuntu you are using.  you didn't tell us what specific version you were trying to install.
[01:59] <erisco> google the mount floppy error and you will find something
[01:59] <WinZ> bob2, thanks!
[02:00] <aduryee_> Does anyone know how to get the D-pad working?
[02:00] <BrutusUnix> ok....but I want command line on boot
[02:00] <bob2> noke: if you get the 2.1 version it should work
[02:00] <erisco> hope that helps someone
[02:00] <Seveas> BrutusUnix, then remove gdm from runlevel 2
[02:00] <aduryee_> (I'm running Breezy, if that helps)
[02:00] <noke> and how do i get it ?
[02:00] <ford> Hi
[02:00] <balzac> could someone point me to some information on how to clean up a dependency issue? I installed some things manually that were too new and they broke dependencies.
[02:00] <noke> i'm using 5.10
[02:00] <BrutusUnix> id:2:initdefault will give me command line? in the inittab?
[02:00] <ford> the ubuntu is debian-based?
[02:00] <madsen> DjKritical: It's as simple as 'convert -scale 300x400 input_image.jpg output_image.jpg'
[02:00] <DjKritical> madsen: I'll give it a go... only because it got 3 good reviews from this channel!
[02:00] <bob2> ford: yes
[02:00] <noke> sicstus is for prolog programing
[02:00] <bob2> ford: but no the same as Debian
[02:00] <bob2> noke: yes, I know, I googled it
[02:01] <DjKritical> madsen: what about doing a whole directory?
[02:01] <eazel7> thanks bob2 for your help
[02:01] <bimberi> ford: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[02:01] <dooglus> BrutusUnix: id:2:... will give you runlevel 2 on boot.  whether that gives you command line or not depends on whether you remove gdm from runlevel 2.
[02:01] <ford> bob2, bimberi thx
[02:01] <noke> then how do i get the glibc2.1 ?
[02:01] <bimberi> ford: yw :)
[02:01] <bob2> noke: stop it
[02:01] <bob2> noke: you're being annoying and not giving anyone any useful information
[02:01] <bob2> noke: now, paste the error you got to #flood
[02:01] <aduryee_> If it helps at all, I tried two different controllers (similar models; one is wireless) and both have the same issue.
[02:02] <test34> controller-less modem means winmodem right ?
[02:02] <BrutusUnix> ok go it thanks
[02:02] <BrutusUnix> exit
[02:02] <noke> ..
[02:02] <madsen> DjKritical: Hmm, that's a little harder, but you can write a simple script for that... Like:  for i in ./*; do convert -scale 500x300 $i $i; done    That'll scale every image in the current dir to 500x300 (with relative sizes).
[02:02] <Seveas> test34, usually
[02:02] <bob2> test34: yes
[02:02] <bob2> noke: which part of that was confusing?
[02:02] <DjKritical> madsen: tricky!
[02:03] <erisco> is anyone having that mount floppy error? i found the perfect solution around it... works great
[02:03] <test34> its intel 526EP chipset
[02:03] <test34> 536..
[02:03] <erisco> most likely not... i just want to help =p
[02:03] <HrdwrBoB> erisco: yeah, don't use floppies, ever
[02:03] <madsen> DjKritical: Yeah, but smart thing is that it can easilly be integrated into, say, nautilus - so you can just mark the images you want resized and then right-click and select 'resize'. ;)
[02:03] <erisco> okay that is defeating the point
[02:03] <erisco> there is seriously a mounting floppy glitch in nautilus
[02:04] <DjKritical> madsen: yeah.. or I could make a php script
[02:04] <erisco> is that not something big? i mean some people must still use floppies
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> erisco: file a bug
[02:04] <erisco> bug was already filed
[02:04] <madsen> DjKritical: You could, but it'd be easier making a bash-script I think. :)
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> erisco: tbh, I don't know anyone who uses floppies at all
[02:04] <aduryee_> Hm, anyone know what's going on when a joypad's D-pads aren't read properly?
[02:04] <erisco> i posted the bug number earlier
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> erisco: in an age of $10 USB storage
[02:04] <erisco> well now you do know someone =)
[02:05] <madsen> DjKritical: But sure, you could install php5-cli and php5-gd and use that to scale it too...
[02:05] <HrdwrBoB> using floppies is an exercise in 'how quickly do you want to lose your data'
[02:05] <aduryee_> It's nothing critical, but still, I'd rather get these joypads working ASAP
[02:05] <erisco> okay you can shut-up know =p
[02:05] <Seveas> erisco, so can you...
[02:05] <warreng> i just merged apache2, but there's no apxs... how do i get that?
[02:05] <Seveas> (read that as: please adhere to the coc)
[02:05] <erisco> Seveas, sorry
[02:05] <zblach> umask=022, what does this allow for a partition?
[02:05] <HrdwrBoB> erisco: floppies are an obsoleted technology
[02:05] <madsen> Ok, I installed xubuntu-artwork-usplash (don't ask!) and I regret it - how do I get back the original Ubuntu usplash? (I've already removed the xubuntu-artwork-usplash package but to no avail.)
[02:06] <erisco> HrdwrBoB, yes i know
[02:06] <hyperactivecrond> madsen: it's probably a meta-package
[02:06] <HrdwrBoB> erisco: and as such should be avoided (though this doesn't make your bug any less valid)
[02:06] <madsen> zblach: It's the same as chmod 755
[02:06] <gimmulf> Shouldnt LimeWire be in the package manager?
[02:06] <hyperactivecrond> gimmulf: eek. it needs java
[02:06] <kevogod> You can buy floppies in a regular store. They are NOT obsolete.
[02:06] <Seveas> madsen, afaik, sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[02:06] <erisco> HrdwrBoB, by all means what you say is true
[02:06] <dooglus> DjKritical: if you don't want to overwrite the existing images, something like this will work:
[02:06] <dooglus> for i in *.jpg; do convert photo.jpg -scale 400x300 $(echo $i | sed 's/.jpg$/_small.jpg/'); done
[02:06] <madsen> hyperactivecrond: Oh! You might have a point there. ;)
[02:06] <zblach> madsen, what to do to test settings?
[02:06] <hyperactivecrond> gimmulf: use apollon or gtk-gnutella
[02:06] <erisco> HrdwrBoB, i am used to people who used tons of floppies...
[02:06] <hyperactivecrond> apollon != in
[02:06] <gimmulf> hyperactivecrond:  they aint that good :)
[02:06] <hyperactivecrond> but still good
[02:06] <erisco> HrdwrBoB, which i am surrounded by
[02:07] <hyperactivecrond> apollon is good imho
[02:07] <madsen> zblach: Sorry, I don't know that...
[02:07] <DjKritical> dooglus, just in console?... or is that an sh script?
[02:07] <dooglus> oops!    for i in *.jpg; do convert "$i.jpg" -scale 400x300 "$(echo $i | sed 's/.jpg$/_small.jpg/')"; done
[02:07] <erisco> HrdwrBoB, so i thought maybe this might be a big problem
[02:07] <erisco> HrdwrBoB, maybe it isn't =p
[02:07] <dooglus> DjKritical: it's a shell script, but that's what consoles run, so it's up to you.
[02:07] <dooglus> DjKritical: paste it into a file if you like - or just at the command line
[02:08] <coolaj86> anyone experienced with pvmove for dumping a few partially used physical volumes onto one or two fully used volumes?
[02:08] <coolaj86> (not yet fully used volumes)
[02:08] <iceman> Now, back... how to Point wine to the location in which i put Diablo II
[02:08] <Paradoxx> i have an external hard drive, and for some reason my box dosen't read it. It use to automatically open it like any other drive, but after i formatted it, it dosen't pick it up automatically anymore...how can i fix this?
[02:08] <hyperactivecrond> iceman: eek don't use wine use cedega for games
[02:08] <hyperactivecrond> Paradoxx: look for it in dmesg
[02:09] <hyperactivecrond> and see if it shows up
[02:09] <madsen> Brb!
[02:09] <dooglus> DjKritical: that line still isn't quite right!  I've got an extra .jpg inside the first set of quotes :(
[02:10] <iceman> aggggggggggggggggggg.          I know wine is in there ... now pointing it to the location of Diablo II
[02:10] <WinZ> hm.. pppstats doesn't show speed
[02:10] <WinZ> winz@home~$ pppstats ppp0
[02:10] <WinZ>       IN   PACK VJCOMP  VJUNC  VJERR  |      OUT   PACK VJCOMP  VJUNC NON-VJ
[02:10] <WinZ> 19027341  66546      0      0      0  |  4441811  75704      0      0  75704
[02:10] <zblach> how can i test the settings of fstab?
[02:10] <warreng> how is there an apache-dev but no apache2-dev ??
[02:10] <iceman> basic like in dos  c:\dos\Diablo ii\Diablo ii.exe now to point wine to it ...
[02:10] <bob2> warreng: what are you trying to do?
[02:11] <GTroy> uh ifup: failed to open statefile /etc/network/run/ifstate: permission denied
[02:11] <GTroy> what can I do?
[02:11] <bob2> GTroy: you'd of course run ifup with sudo
[02:11] <GTroy> cool thanks
[02:11] <warreng> bob2: use apxs
[02:11] <warreng> to compile an apache mod
[02:11] <bob2> warreng: to build *what*?
[02:12] <GTroy> ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[02:12] <bob2> that means you didn't put wlan0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:12] <GTroy> is that hard to do?
[02:12] <warreng> bob2: i'm trying to create a custom version of mod_auth_mysql... so i'm rewriting that mod
[02:12] <Hobbsee> zblach: see if everything's mounted where it's supposed to, as the fstab shows it should be?
[02:13] <balzac> if i use synaptic: Edit  Fix Broken Packages and it wants to remove this: http://pastebin.com/404691    is this a good idea to clean up my broken dependencies like this?
[02:13] <warreng> the easiest way to build it is through apxs.. but the ubuntu install of apache2 doesn't have the sources/apxs... and there's only apache-dev, not apache2-dev packages
[02:13] <bob2> warreng: apt-cache --names-only search apache dev
[02:13] <zblach> hobbsee, what?
[02:13] <bob2> warreng: you need a specific one
[02:13] <bob2> warreng: also, I'd think modifying the existing libapache-mod-mysql-auth package would be less hassle
[02:14] <Hobbsee> zblach: what were you wanting to test?  as in, if a particular drive is mounted?
[02:15] <zblach> hobbsee, i want to apply a umask of 022 to 4 partitions
[02:15] <warreng> bob2: apache-dev only.. i don't see apache2-dev at all in apt-cache
[02:15] <iceman> to hell with it ... 94 % of x86 downloaded .... i'll wait ... because how to config 64 bit to run 32 bit, and then point wine to 64 bit or dos to find the app, just a little much .... at least a base system, might make it easier on me
[02:15] <bob2> warreng: yes, I know, that's not what I told you to search for
[02:15] <GTroy> ok I'll look silly how do you add wlan0 to /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:15] <CaBlGuY> greetiungs..
[02:15] <gimmulf> Is gnutella better than limewire?
[02:15] <CaBlGuY> greetings even..
[02:16] <bob2> GTroy: I wouldn't bother
[02:16] <Hobbsee> zblach: right, not sure how you'd test that
[02:16] <warreng> bob2: OHHHH.... i saw prefork and threaded, and i figured those were for the mpm modules, not the apahce itself
[02:16] <CaBlGuY> got a few questions about ubuntu..
[02:16] <GTroy> then how do I get my usb wifi installed?
[02:16] <nalioth> CaBlGuY: ask away
[02:17] <warreng> bob2: you rock.. thanks :)
[02:17] <CaBlGuY> im usin ARK now, which isn't supporting my video card and the packages are kinda messed up..
[02:17] <bob2> warreng: tho it does make me wonder if every libapache2-mod-whatever package includes three copies of each module
[02:17] <hyphenated> my laptop is freezing completely during heavy IO. google didn't help much. what can I do to track the problem down?
[02:17] <CaBlGuY> does ubuntu support NVidia cards and what kinda packages are included on the iISO?
[02:17] <sockpuppe1> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted is this repo ok for use
[02:17] <hyphenated> I've tried having ssh sessions open, and tailing syslog, messages and kern.log, but they didn't output anything when the freeze occurred
[02:17] <bob2> CaBlGuY: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:18] <bob2> sockpuppe1: no, don't use it
[02:18] <sockpuppe1> damn
[02:18] <BrutusUnix> My iMac locks up on boot to a gui...anyone else heard of this problem?....its in Xorg, this is my third distro
[02:18] <sockpuppe1> i just upgraded libgl1mesa
[02:19] <sockpuppe1> 6.3.2-0ubuntu6breezy1
[02:19] <balzac> if i use synaptic: Edit  Fix Broken Packages and it wants to remove this: http://pastebin.com/404691    is this a good idea to clean up my broken dependencies like this?
[02:19] <CaBlGuY> bob, ummm  is that posed to be www.wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto  ??
[02:19] <sockpuppe1> is that ok or should i try to remove said packages
[02:19] <mustard5> sockpuppe1, I have libmesa upgrades too and I don't have hoary extra
[02:19] <mustard5> sockpuppe1, they are breezy updates
[02:20] <mustard5> let me find the version
[02:20] <bob2> CaBlGuY: no
[02:20] <mustard5> sockpuppe1, 6.3.2 ?
[02:20] <sockpuppe1> yeah
[02:20] <mustard5> yeah...they are the updates to breezy today
[02:20] <sockpuppe1> 6.3.2-0ubuntu6breezy1
[02:20] <CaBlGuY> well, it's not working then..
[02:20] <iceman> 98 % of x86 back after a reinstall ...
[02:20] <CaBlGuY> I get a 401 error..
[02:21] <sockpuppe1> so i will get rid of the other repo
[02:21] <adriyel__> wine: '/home/adriyel/.transgaming/wineserver-meow' must not be accessible by other users <--- what chown/chgrp command do I use to make it available to all users?
[02:21] <bob2> CaBlGuY: works for me.
[02:21] <frank23> when should I apply the any-any update to vmware?
[02:21] <mustard5> sockpuppe1, apparently :D
[02:21] <bob2> adriyel__: must NOT be accessible by other users
[02:21] <adriyel__> ack
[02:21] <adriyel__> crap
[02:21] <bob2> frank23: to the module source
[02:21] <adriyel__> *bangs head*
[02:21] <adriyel__> what chown/chgrp commands would I use to lock it out?
[02:21] <sockpuppe1> thanks !
[02:21] <mustard5> sockpuppe1, probably not much in there that you need...check for what is obsolete when you remove it and update
[02:22] <starscalling> hey whats a good interface to just put songs on my ipod?
[02:22] <sockpuppe1> you got it man
[02:22] <sockpuppe1> starscalling rhythmbox?
[02:22] <starscalling> o.O sweet thanx sockpuppe1 :)
[02:22] <bob2> adriyel__: chmod 600 blah
[02:22] <sockpuppe1> no prob
[02:22] <starscalling> thats even in already! <3
[02:22] <adriyel__> bob2, use nautilus to fix it methinks :P
[02:23] <CaBlGuY> ok, how bout on a scale from 1 - 10 the ease of use of Ubuntu..??
[02:23] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: compared to what?
[02:23] <adriyel__> wine: chdir to /home/adriyel/.transgaming/wineserver-meow : Permission denied
[02:23] <adriyel__> wtf.
[02:23] <sockpuppe1> depends on the hardware ,am
[02:23] <frank23> bob2: did you know that vmware is distrubuting an image for their new vmware-player which is a "secure browser": essentially hoary running firefox is what they chose
[02:23] <CaBlGuY> compared to winblowz..  since Im  a Linux n00b still..
[02:24] <mauricio> hi, does anybody knows how to use msn messenger in linux?
[02:24] <sockpuppe1> well it isnt idiot proof
[02:24] <samuel_> so anyone might know what the problem is?
[02:24] <adriyel__> bob2, see the above problem? chdir to /home/adriyel/.transgaming/wineserver-meow : Permission denied...wtf?
[02:24] <yi> mauricio: use gaim
[02:24] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: well, a lot more of it "just works" but it can be a bit more of a pain to fix things....i personally find it easier to use than windows
[02:24] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, if you hang out in here...the ease of use is good :D
[02:24] <sockpuppe1> or aMSN
[02:24] <CaBlGuY> well, I know it's not idiot proof, I've been usin ARK on and off for a good year or so..
[02:24] <Hobbsee> mauricio: gaim, kopete, aMSN
[02:25] <mauricio> where can I find them?
[02:25] <bob2> frank23: hah, pimp
[02:25] <davidleeroth> I have a prob... I am creating a kustom kernel and I dont have mkinitrd. Where can this be downloaded?
[02:25] <sockpuppe1> apt-get install gaim
[02:25] <sockpuppe1> or amsn
[02:25] <bob2> adriyel__: you can't change into dirs you don't have permissions for
[02:25] <iceman> whats the iso app for ubuntu in gnome
[02:25] <adriyel__> ...the folder belongs to my account
[02:25] <bob2> adriyel__: 600 denies you the ability to chdir (since it doesn't allow execute)
[02:25] <ramza3> how do install just plain *.deb files
[02:25] <ramza3> I
[02:25] <bob2> adriyel__: you can make files inaccessible to yourself
[02:25] <CaBlGuY> the only reason I'm lookin to change distros is support, cause ARK isn't supporting my Video card ,,  and I don't know how to "build" it so it can use it..
[02:26] <davidleeroth> ramza dpkg -i xxx.deb
[02:26] <mustard5> davidleeroth, synaptic?
[02:26] <bob2> adriyel__: tho yo ucan of course immediately giveyourself permission back again
[02:26] <samuel_> how do i upgrade fomr 4.05 to breezy?
[02:26] <CaBlGuY> so, I need a distro that requgnizes everything..
[02:26] <ramza3> davidleeroth, what about from a URL
[02:26] <Kassah> so umm... is there anyway to play MP3s on RythmBox? (aka Gnome Music Player)
[02:26] <adriyel__> bob2, it works now
[02:26] <bob2> CaBlGuY: so, give ubuntu a go
[02:26] <bob2> CaBlGuY: no one can guess if it will work for you or not
[02:26] <bob2> Kassah: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:26] <davidleeroth> ramza, wget xxx.deb, then dpkg -i xxx.deb
[02:26] <bimberi> Kassah: install gstreamer0.8-lame (from universe)
[02:26] <bob2> Kassah: that is in the FAQ
[02:26] <mauricio> so, do I have to download something?
[02:26] <davidleeroth> mkinitrd is not in the apt repo
[02:26] <ramza3> davidleeroth, ah
[02:26] <adriyel__> here's to getting HL2 running, and being windows free!
[02:26] <iceman> What app is the for burning iso's from gnome ...
[02:26] <davidleeroth> i really need that
[02:26] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: use a live cd to check that you have an internet connection, if you want - as long as you have internet, you have the resources to fix anything else that doesnt work
[02:26] <HumpBack> Hello
[02:26] <dooglus> bob2: I installed a breezy chroot, then did a 'dist-upgrade' to dapper and nothing needed upgrading.  is that to be expected?
[02:27] <CaBlGuY> has anyone else had problems with Nvidia card sin Ubuntu??  or do they generaly just work/..
[02:27] <CaBlGuY> ?
[02:27] <ramza3> is ubuntu cooler than gentoo
[02:27] <P8ntKid> How come i just installed fluxbox and it doesnt show up on my sessions list.
[02:27] <ramza3> I am a former gentoo user
[02:27] <davidleeroth> ramza, of course!
[02:27] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: dont have one, but they work better than ati ones, i hear
[02:27] <adriyel__> bob2, got an error, says could not connect to steam network, wtf?
[02:27] <sockpuppe1> cablguy did you install the drivers
[02:27] <dooglus> ramza3: if you're asking which is "cooler" you probably want to stick with gentoo :)
[02:27] <davidleeroth> gentoo is pretty cool
[02:27] <CaBlGuY> ARK isn't supporting the drivers for my card..
[02:27] <aimaz> CaBlGuY, i have a GeForce2 and it worked fine with default install of ubuntu
[02:27] <ramza3> davidleeroth, I got tired of the compiles
[02:27] <bob2> dooglus: yeah, it only opened like an hour ago, stuff is pribably still building
[02:27] <bob2> CaBlGuY: they generally work fine
[02:27] <marko> mine g force2 works great
[02:27] <davidleeroth> hell yeah ramza i hear ya
[02:27] <mustard5> davidleeroth, k.. I have two hits with a search on mkinitrd  ...mkinitrd-cd and bootcd-mkinitrd
[02:27] <frank23> CaBlGuY: nvidia mostly just work. some people might have problems with very old or very new cards
[02:28] <bob2> CaBlGuY: this is not an ark support channel, sorry
[02:28] <adriyel__> bob2, is there any reason why steam under cedega wouldn't be able to connect to the internet?
[02:28] <davidleeroth> mustard, those are of no use
[02:28] <bob2> CaBlGuY: if you want to try ubuntu, download it and install it
[02:28] <ryanpg> hehe... wow I was able to see dapper in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ for a while but then a refresh resulted in it's abrupt dissapearance, oh well I discovered xorg 7.0RC1 isn't there yet anyway :(
[02:28] <aimaz> CaBlGuY, if you want faster games though you should use the actual nvidia driver
[02:28] <sockpuppe1> i have the weirdest thin i did what gentoo did with ubuntu...sort of
[02:28] <CaBlGuY> bob, I know..
[02:28] <CaBlGuY> :p
[02:28] <bob2> adriyel__: no idea, #cedega, perhaps
[02:28] <sockpuppe1> i like to compile from source
[02:28] <CaBlGuY> I'm just tryin to get all the info I can b 4 I swap distros.
[02:28] <marko> I heard older that gf2 make problems
[02:28] <adriyel__> indeed.
[02:28] <bob2> ryanpg: yes, it won't be thee for some time
[02:28] <mustard5> davidleeroth, I figured I was just being redudant soz :)
[02:28] <davidleeroth> ramza, when i installed it it had no installed (it was a bitch)
[02:28] <P8ntKid> How come i just installed fluxbox and it doesnt show up on my sessions list.
[02:28] <bob2> sockpuppe1: compiling librarires from source is going to lead to pain
[02:28] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: just give it a shot - it's way easier to figure out something when you see it in front of you :)
[02:28] <dooglus> ryanpg: it's still there.
[02:28] <davidleeroth> anyone know where mkinitrd can be found?
[02:28] <marko> I have prob with gnome-dictionary
[02:29] <CaBlGuY> ok,
[02:29] <ryanpg> bob2, dunno... it's in debian unstable (or experimental)
[02:29] <CaBlGuY> thanks guys..
[02:29] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: no problems
[02:29] <adriyel__> bob2, #cedega appears to be dead... :( *cries*
[02:29] <bob2> ryanpg: yes, ubuntu does not get X from Debian
[02:29] <ryanpg> dooglus, yeah I've never had such a thing happen before... dapper was in /ubuntu/dists but now it's gone
[02:29] <bob2> in the past, anyway
[02:29] <bob2> davidleeroth: breezy uses initramfs
[02:29] <dooglus> ryanpg: you can't see http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/ then?
[02:29] <marko> gnome-dict seem to look for word as I type, that makes app to be very slow
[02:29] <davidleeroth> thank you!
[02:29] <ryanpg> bob2, I thought daniels was maintaining it
[02:30] <ryanpg> dooglus, nope\
[02:30] <bob2> ryanpg: in ubuntu, yes, but not in debian (tho he helps david)
[02:30] <marko> nothing in preferences to fix that
[02:30] <davidleeroth> bob2, where would i get this?
[02:30] <Kassah> bob2, umm... just wondering... can't distribute mp3 decoder.... but umm... can link to xmms which comes with an mp3 decoder?
[02:30] <bob2> davidleeroth: I don't know what you're trying to do
[02:30] <dooglus> ryanpg: maybe this is something to do with archive.ubuntu.com resolving to 3 different IP addresses - maybe they aren't all up to date yet.
[02:30] <sockpuppe1> bob definitely
[02:30] <bob2> Kassah: yes, it's a legal grey area and people are not being consistent about it
[02:30] <sockpuppe1> dependency hell
[02:30] <ryanpg> dooglus, weird eh? I was able to get the Package.bz2 though which is all I wanted
[02:30] <Kassah> ahh... just checking
[02:30] <bob2> Kassah: there are no mp3 decoders on the CD, tho, which I thin kwas the aim.
[02:30] <P8ntKid> How come i just installed fluxbox and it doesnt show up on my sessions list.
[02:30] <adriyel__> bob2, I've gotta get another bloody version of cedega. CRAP
[02:30] <davidleeroth> bob2, just forget it... i found mkinitrd
[02:30] <davidleeroth> online
[02:31] <ryanpg> dooglus, I suspected that was the case though I've gotten no help here confirming that :P
[02:31] <Kassah> bob2, that's good
[02:31] <bob2> ryanpg: archive.ubuntu.com points at 3 machines, perhaps they're not all in sync
[02:31] <bob2> adriyel__: ok
[02:31] <sockpuppe1> you guys I was thinking of using a mini-itx as a firewall
[02:31] <bob2> P8ntKid: it won't unless you add it; search the wiki for fluxbox
[02:31] <ryanpg> bob2, yeah that's what I was saying/asking earlier
[02:31] <jonny> I made KDE my default, but I would like to switch back to GNOME how can I do this?
[02:31] <bob2> davidleeroth: I think you're about to make your system unbootable; what is your aim
[02:31] <sockpuppe1> preferably with monowall
[02:31] <apokryphos> jonny: from the login screen
[02:31] <ryanpg> ok... last try before I go off to google my way to an answer... does the dapper repository need time to spread through mirrors or am I looking in the entirely wrong places?
[02:31] <odie5533> Are there any good bittorrent clients for Ubuntu?
[02:32] <Hobbsee> jonny: very easily, at the login screen, click gnome, and it will give you a dialog to use it as default
[02:32] <apokryphos> ryanpg: it, of course, takes time. You shouldn't be using it though.
[02:32] <sockpuppe1> odie there is azureus   (don't flame me)
[02:32] <ryanpg> oops didn't mean to spam that... was going to quote instead... anyway now that I know I'm not crazy I'll be using it as soon as the xorg stuff goes online
[02:32] <davidleeroth> bob2, I am making a custom kernel... all i need to do now is make an initrd
[02:32] <davidleeroth> then edit grub
[02:32] <jonny> I tried but it did ask me if I would like to make GNOME my default.
[02:32] <odie5533> When I downloaded the jar file of azureus it wouldn't run
[02:32] <ryanpg> I've learned I can't live without Exa + composite + xcompmgr :D
[02:33] <davidleeroth> bob2, do you understand my goal now?
[02:33] <jonny> can i do it through the termanil?
[02:33] <sockpuppe1> install java
[02:33] <odie5533> It is
[02:33] <sockpuppe1> blackdown
[02:33] <odie5533> Sun Java
[02:33] <sockpuppe1> no sun
[02:33] <sockpuppe1> blackdown
[02:33] <odie5533> I had tried blackdown
[02:33] <davidleeroth> use sun java
[02:33] <odie5533> ill try again
[02:33] <jonny> terminal
[02:33] <jonny> *
[02:33] <sockpuppe1> apt-cache search blackdown
[02:33] <sockpuppe1> get rid of sun
[02:33] <davidleeroth> bob2????
[02:34] <jonny> can I change my default from KDE to GNOME in the terminal
[02:34] <apokryphos> sockpuppe1: er, why?
[02:34] <dooglus> when I install packages in breezy, it gets stuck at the "Reading database..." bit for a long time, whereas my new chroot environment gets past that very quickly.  Can I re-create the database somehow to speed it up?
[02:34] <sockpuppe1> i ran into the same problem that he did
[02:34] <dooglus> jonny: I got the 'snowball' game working if you're interested.
[02:34] <apokryphos> jonny: GDM won't respect the default you set there, but startx can if you like
[02:34] <sockpuppe1> and its what worked for me
[02:34] <jonny> wow! how?
[02:34] <jonny> dooglus
[02:35] <apokryphos> sockpuppe1: er, with sun? Never had that problem.
[02:35] <dooglus> jonny: first install package 'python2.4-pygame', then cd into the 'snowball' directory and type "python snowball.py"
[02:35] <sockpuppe1> not with sun itself
[02:35] <sockpuppe1> azureus went a little crazy
[02:35] <jonny> ok i might give it a try later, is it fun?
[02:35] <dooglus> jonny: it's a Python game, so you don't need to build anything.  But it uses the pygame libraries.
[02:35] <odie5533> azureus won't even run :S
[02:35] <sockpuppe1> pinpointed the prob as java
[02:35] <Fuji-san> Knorrie
[02:35] <frank23> dooglus: you just have more package installed in your main system than in your chroot. I would say its normal to be faster in  the chroot
[02:35] <Fuji-san> KNORRIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:35] <Fuji-san> :P
[02:35] <dooglus> it's not the best, no.  kind of a puzzle game - like solomon's key if you know that.
[02:35] <jonny> is it fun, dooglus?
[02:36] <Fuji-san> KNORRIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:36] <jonny> p sorry
[02:36] <marko> does anybody have problems with gnome-dictionary, it seems very buggy to me?
[02:36] <jonny> i did not see that up there
[02:36] <dooglus> frank23: right, but it's SO much slower, and I don't have a lot more installed.  I was wondering if my database has got fragmented, or some such.
[02:36] <sockpuppe1> bob2 do yo think the mini-itx firewall thing is a good idea
[02:36] <davidleeroth> Does anyone know how to create an initrd from a vmlinuz file?
[02:36] <DruQks> Anyone here have an acer travelmate 8100 comp?
[02:36] <bob2> davidleeroth: if you're making a a custom kernel, why on earth are you using an initrd/
[02:36] <frank23> dooglus: I don't know...
[02:36] <bob2> sockpuppe1: if you have the money to burn
[02:36] <davidleeroth> bob2, so all i need is a vmlinuz file?
[02:37] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: it will work
[02:37] <dooglus> frank23: I've had the same database for 9 months or so I guess, installed and removed a whole load of stuff...
[02:37] <Knorrie> bob2: tnx
[02:37] <Xenguy> Fuji-san: now behave ;-)
[02:37] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: find you a beat-up-486 and use it for a firewwall
[02:37] <jonny> OK so when I log out and click GNOME it dies not ask me if I would like to set it as my default.
[02:37] <Fuji-san> ok
[02:37] <Fuji-san> :-)
[02:37] <sockpuppe1> but should I do that as opposed to just buying a regular firewall?
[02:37] <sockpuppe1> lol nalioth
[02:37] <sockpuppe1> not enough room
[02:38] <CosmoDad> davidleeroth: mkinitd can create initial ramdisks, but I'd also propose not to create initrd images unless necessary
[02:38] <Fuji-san> > Cannot join channel: #ubuntu-nl (You are banned) <--- i was banned for being half chinese and being proud of the fact that CHina will dominate
[02:38] <Fuji-san> :)
[02:38] <Fuji-san> damn dutch
[02:38] <jonny> anyone know?
[02:38] <davidleeroth> ok brb
[02:38] <Fuji-san> :-)
[02:38] <davidleeroth> gonna test my kernel
[02:38] <apokryphos> Fuji-san: this is off-topic
[02:38] <nalioth> Fuji-san: that is off topic
[02:38] <bob2> Fuji-san: enough
[02:38] <bob2> wtf
[02:38] <gnomefreak> dapper exists now?
[02:38] <bob2> sockpuppe1: I'd certainly go with a mini-itc and linux/bsd ahead of a commercial firewall box
[02:38] <Knorrie> Fuji-san: go sleap now, it's enaough
[02:38] <bob2> gnomefreak: yes, with nothing in it
[02:39] <Fuji-san> lol
[02:39] <bob2> sockpuppe1: but I'm just special like that
[02:39] <Knorrie> s/enaough/enough/
[02:39] <odie5533> when I try to use a sudo command I get this - sudo: can't open /var/run/sudo/odie5533/tty2 read only
[02:39] <gnomefreak> lol give it a month or 2 they should have 1st beta out
[02:39] <sockpuppe1> well is it better to use linux or bsd for that purpose (no flames please)
[02:39] <bob2> odie5533: sounds like your root filesystem is trashed
[02:39] <odie5533> that doesnt sound good
[02:39] <bob2> sockpuppe1: whichever you're more comfortable with, basically
[02:39] <odie5533> is that bad?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrr@bsd
[02:40] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: using a 486 (or mini itx) allows more configuration then a "off the shelf" firewall
[02:40] <bob2> odie5533: "yes"
[02:40] <odie5533> Fixable?
[02:40] <bob2> odie5533: oh, wait, I mean "really bad"
[02:40] <bob2> odie5533: look at the end of "dmesg"
[02:41] <sockpuppe1> I think ill try it with either monowall or some other distro
[02:41] <apokryphos> Fuji-san: this is an English speaking channel, quite obviously
[02:41] <bimberi> sockpuppe1: there's also IPCop and Smoothwall
[02:41] <apokryphos> please don't be annoying
[02:41] <cronic> How can I autodetect a new NIC in console?
[02:41] <Fuji-san> soz
[02:41] <odie5533> I have some read errors on hda and then I have apm: disabled on user request
[02:41] <cronic> odie5533: New hard drive time
[02:41] <Xenguy> sockpuppe1: shorewall  ?
[02:41] <odie5533> that bad?
[02:41] <cronic> yessir
[02:42] <Fuji-san> i ont talk in that third world language again apokryphos.. :-)
[02:42] <CosmoDad> cronic: lspci and modprobe maybe?
[02:42] <cronic> read errors are baaaad
[02:42] <Fuji-san> wiont*
[02:42] <odie5533> is there a way to make sure its that bad?
[02:42] <Fuji-san> ;)))
[02:42] <odie5533> like have a program copy files to hd, then verify their integrity?
[02:42] <apokryphos> Fuji-san: ok, just keep talk in here on-topic -- this is a help channel. #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter =)
[02:42] <odie5533> before I go buying a new hdd...
[02:42] <balzac> if i use synaptic: Edit  Fix Broken Packages and it wants to remove this: http://pastebin.com/404691    is this a good idea to clean up my broken dependencies like this?
[02:42] <jonny> how can I how can I create a new network?
[02:42] <cronic> CosmoDad: lspci doesn't see it..... odd.
[02:42] <bob2> balzac: stop pasting non-ascii stuff in here
[02:43] <P8ntKid> how do i get fluxbox to show up on the Sessions list?
[02:43] <balzac> non-ascii?
[02:43] <bob2> odie5533: read the output of dmesg and paste it to #flood
[02:43] <CosmoDad> cronic: is it an PCI card actually?
[02:43] <cronic> Yes.
[02:43] <cronic> There is one onboard, and another PCI slotted
[02:43] <gnomefreak> if im not mistaken most if not all of those packages are part of build-essentail
[02:43] <odie5533> bob2: its a REALLY REALLY long output
[02:43] <cronic> It sees the onboard one, but not the carded NIC
[02:43] <nalioth> P8ntKid: if you install it from synaptic, it should make an entry
[02:43] <odie5533> I mean, extremely long
[02:43] <CosmoDad> cronic: and "lspci|grep -i ethernet" doesn't yield anything?
[02:43] <bob2> odie5533: the last 20 lines to #flood
[02:43] <P8ntKid> nalioth, I didnt. I downloaded it from fluxbox.org
[02:44] <sockpuppe1> does anyone here use a similar device as I was describing above?
[02:44] <cronic> CosmoDad: it's Ethernet -- and no it only shows the onboard
[02:44] <bob2> balzac: tell it to install ubuntu-desktop and build-essential
[02:44] <bob2> balzac: also, paste your /etc/apt/sou to #flood
[02:44] <cronic> I already did that. ;-p
[02:44] <CosmoDad> cronic: what about dmesg?
[02:44] <cronic> Nothing.
[02:44] <nalioth> P8ntKid: visit /usr/share/xsessions  and monkey-see monkey-do
[02:44] <odie5533> bob2: is there a way to paste from a seperate session (like CTRL [F2]  paste goes over to my main CTRL F7)?
[02:44] <cronic> Only shows ETH0
[02:44] <odie5533> because I can't open a terminal on this session anymore for some reason :S
[02:44] <jonny> how do I get fluxbox?
[02:44] <Mr_Milenko> fluxbox.org
[02:44] <Knorrie> bob2: it's ok so with fuji-san tnx
[02:44] <jonny> ok
[02:44] <titanium> bob2: i now have a completely clean install of ubuntu breezy. the desktop is still loading. now, i've added Seveas' packages to my sources.list; apt-get install ssh and then apt-get install freenx? anything im missing?
[02:44] <mgwst3> does anyone know where i can get a copy of 1280patch.c?
[02:44] <CosmoDad> cronic: sounds like a hardware issue to me..
[02:44] <balzac> bob2, so i don't do the fix thing, i just reinstall those packages you mentioned?
[02:45] <Mr_Milenko> johny: they have deb packages but there outdated
[02:45] <cronic> I know the card is good, I just pulled it out of a machine....
[02:45] <Mr_Milenko> id compile from source :)
[02:45] <Knorrie> bob2: sry bout this anyway
[02:45] <bob2> odie5533: gpm, but that's not simple.  switc to #flood and try '/exec -o dmesg | tail -n20'
[02:45] <bob2> Knorrie: ?
[02:45] <CosmoDad> cronic: maybe switch pci slots to make sure it's no IRQ conflict or something
[02:45] <bob2> odie5533: yes, you don't be able to most things, your root filesystem, is read-only now
[02:45] <bob2> titanium: sounds reasonable
[02:45] <cronic> Yeah that's what Im going to do. it's all I can think of...
[02:45] <cronic> be back in a few.
[02:45] <Strog> jonny: Disregard that flippant answer. You can get fluxbox with apt-get or synaptics. It's better to grab that way since it's already patched and ready to go. ;-)
[02:46] <bob2> jonny: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[02:46] <titanium> bob2: ok. also, apt-get ssh or apt-get openssh-server? or does it matter?
[02:46] <ThomasM> titanium: 'apt-get install ssh' will install openssh-server and openssh-client, methinks.
[02:46] <Strog> titanium: apt-get install packagename
[02:46] <Knorrie> bob2: fuji-blah was really annying at ubuntu-nl he got banned there and started hunting me here, so he solicited for this ban
[02:46] <odie5533> why would it be read only? Is there anything I can do to fix this or do I need to just reinstall ubuntu?
[02:46] <jonny> Thank you
[02:46] <bob2> titanium: the latter
[02:47] <bob2> Knorrie: ah, right, thanks :)
[02:47] <leonel> where can I read about the  Mono legal issues with  Ubuntu ?
[02:47] <balzac> bob2, did you mean I need to only talk about command-line analysis and solutions, rather than discussing menu commands from synaptic?
[02:47] <Knorrie> bob2: np tnx
[02:47] <bob2> odie5533: it would be read-only because the kernel thought it was about to explode
[02:47] <bob2> odie5533: ie it was giving unfixable errors
[02:47] <odie5533> unfixable... would a reinstall of ubuntu fix them?
[02:47] <bob2> balzac: I mean "I have no idea what synapticd is doing, show us your /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:47] <bob2> odie5533: depeds wnat the problem is
[02:47] <bob2> odie5533: didn't we have this conversation a month ago?
[02:48] <bob2> leonel: there are none
[02:48] <Alchemist_> odie - if you have data on there spinrite can sometimes get it back (grc.com)
[02:48] <odie5533> I don't believe so
[02:48] <adriyel__> bob2, I just got threatened with being banned from #cedega by cyph
[02:48] <balzac> ah, that's relevant. i added at least one 'universe' - hoary extras
[02:48] <cyphase> hey jonny
[02:48] <cyphase> how's it going?
[02:48] <titanium> i swear to god, if freenx still doesnt work after this, ill stab myself
[02:48] <balzac> i can get that sources list, brb
[02:48] <zdennis> After upgrading to breezy, Eclipse 3.1 screws up with cvs
[02:48] <jonny> hey
[02:48] <bob2> adriyel__: charming
[02:49] <leonel> bob2, AFAICT   RAND is not compatible with GPL    and mono is RAND
[02:49] <spanglesontoast> hmmm
[02:49] <odie5533> bob2: should that dmesg command output nothing on a good stable system?
[02:49] <zdennis> anyone else see this problem? I get "An intenal error occured during: 'Synchronizing CVS'"
[02:49] <adriyel__> bob2, yeah, I suddenly exclaim that I got it working, and all of the sudden I am a pirate
[02:49] <zdennis> i get this whenever i try to do any cvs activities
[02:49] <bob2> leonel: RAND? as in Reasonable And Non-Discrimantory licensing?
[02:49] <bob2> adriyel__: haha, awesome
[02:49] <bob2> zdennis: as in, when you use the "cvs" command line program?
[02:49] <cyphase> jonny, is everything working?
[02:49] <zdennis> no, when using Eclipse's builtin CVS
[02:49] <bob2> odie5533: no, it will just output some kernel boot messages
[02:50] <adriyel__> bob2, its ok, I like this channel better. mutters....pr***s....
[02:50] <leonel> bob2, yes  Reasonable to one person means 1 thing  and for other person can mean other thing
[02:50] <jonny> this command does not work for me :sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[02:50] <bob2> zdennis: talk to an ecplise person
[02:50] <DruQks> Can anyone help me with ubuntu in a travelmate 8104 laptop? :D
[02:50] <bob2> leonel: RAND is code for "big companies get to screw you over"
[02:50] <zdennis> heh, the problem didn't exist until i upgraded to Breezy =)
[02:50] <grodius> What's the command to update all programs in term?
[02:50] <bob2> leonel: Mono is absolutely not under a RAND license
[02:50] <leonel> bob2, RAND is not FREE  so  not  GPL compatible
[02:50] <odie5533> well, im off to reinstall. Bye
[02:50] <bob2> leonel: it's under the BSD license
[02:50] <bob2> grodius: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[02:50] <bob2> DruQks: be way way less vague and maybe someone will
[02:51] <titanium> bob2: sigh, installing freenx now, cross your fingers :(
[02:51] <leonel> bob2, ok mono bsd   C#  rand
[02:51] <jonny> cyphase: all except for 3 things 1.that command doesn't work 2.Im stuck in KDE as default 3.I do not know how to settup a new network
[02:51] <bob2> leonel: wtf are you talking about?
[02:51] <cyphase> ...
[02:51] <cyphase> how is KDE default?
[02:51] <bob2> leonel: C# is an ECMA standard, under a "do whatever you want" license
[02:51] <DruQks> bob2, well. . . apparently having your wireless card in the travelmate 8104 work is quite a hassle. . . as well as the sound and some other stuff.
[02:51] <leonel> bob2, C# is ECMA AND RAND
[02:51] <bob2> DruQks: is it too late to return it?
[02:51] <leonel> that's my concern
[02:51] <bob2> leonel: I think that is not the case
[02:51] <balzac> bob2, i've pasted my etc/apt/sources.list in #flood. Also, I happen to know I created these broken dependencies by doing dpkg outside the apt system
[02:52] <DruQks> I need a wiz to read through "http://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=46536" and help me with it :)
[02:52] <bob2> leonel: unless you have a link demonstrating that, I can only assume you're misinformed
[02:52] <Demon_stroke> help: No active partition error after ubuntu installation
[02:52] <DruQks> bob2, yes, much too late :)
[02:52] <jonny> I installed kubuntu and it will no dialoge box comes up when I switch back to GNOME so I have to manually do it every time
[02:52] <robotgeek> leonel: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:52] <leonel> bob2, better yet  you show me your links
[02:52] <leonel> anyway