[15:19] <pronoy> ikonia i installed samba smbfs...but i can't access my universitiy's server...any idea what needs to be done to access it ?
[15:19] <ikonia> pronoy: what's the error
[15:19] <ikonia> frybye: another gimp restart please now you have the package installed
[15:19] <LjL> chrisorange2: i'm not sure what's missing...?
[15:20] <frybye> ikonia: already did that...
[15:20] <ossec-user> il link u a guide im using its very short http://www.ossec.net/wiki/index.php/OSSECWUI:Install i install it all perfectly then the apatche server use a defualt <IP_ADDRESS> and i get a 1501 error thats an smtp server error and a 1202 error thats a config error
[15:20] <ikonia> frybye: no idea
[15:20] <frybye> will switch the printer off and on...
[15:20] <ikonia> ossec-user: what's the actual problem ?
[15:20] <ikonia> ossec-user: I don't understand what you want fixing ?
[15:20] <chrisorange2> LjL my Taskbar up (with Applications, System...) and down (active windows)
[15:20] <pronoy> ikonia a window opens having the title windows shares on <server name>
[15:20] <ossec-user> the ubuntu wont boot because of these errors
[15:21] <chrisorange2> LjL, with other applications the taskbar is not hidden
[15:21] <ikonia> ossec-user: apache and smtp having the wrong config will NOT stop ubuntu from booting
[15:21] <LjL> chrisorange2: weird, is that on the eeepc? with maximus or something?
[15:21] <billgoldberg> Does a bootable partition on an external hdd has to be the first partition?
[15:21] <billgoldberg> on the drive
[15:21] <ikonia> pronoy: ok, so those are the shares
[15:21] <Nomikos> LiveCD, at the desktop the mouse cursor can move, but the buttons don't work..
[15:21] <Nomikos> Any ideas?
[15:21] <ossec-user> i know the smtp server is ok it works as i get mails b4 i install ossec-wui
[15:21] <ossec-user> and yes
[15:22] <ikonia> ossec-user: again - this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:22] <pronoy> ikonia ya but we have a seperate space on our server....which requires a login...i want to access taht
[15:22] <ossec-user> ok
[15:22] <ikonia> ossec-user: it must be ossec
[15:22] <ossec-user> sorry this is a busy channel
[15:22] <ossec-user> thanks
[15:22] <chrisorange2> LjL, no i's my normal pc :)
[15:22] <ikonia> pronoy: how do you access this "space" when you are not using ubuntu ?
[15:23] <pronoy> ikonia i used windows earlier...just used to go to "run" and type //<server name>
[15:23] <pronoy> ikonia: and a login screen would appear
[15:23] <ikonia> pronoy: ok - so thats the same as what your doing in ubuntu
[15:23] <ikonia> pronoy: your click on one of the folders and it will prompt you for a password I imagine
[15:24] <pronoy> ikonia only problem being...there are no folders in the windows shares folders
[15:24] <J2daosh> can you make an ssh connection link on a website?
[15:24] <jokkaa> is there any way to "rise" minimized programs through the terminal?
[15:24] <ikonia> pronoy: you said it opens a windows and has folders in
[15:24] <ikonia> pronoy: open one of those folders
[15:24] <jrib> jokkaa: see wmctrl
[15:25] <Raiscan> Can someone please tell me how to find out the cause of an XIO error? :)
[15:25] <ikonia> Raiscan: when are you getting it ?
[15:25] <Raiscan> when I run anything in wine, or openttd
[15:25] <Raiscan> I don't have must on the server that isnt command line so I'm not sure what else to test it with..
[15:26] <pronoy> ikonia:no no.... just a browser window opens and there are no folders in it.....
[15:26] <oOarthurOo> I'm trying to setup an ssh connection on my home network, because I want to do file sharing and synchronize between my laptop and desktop, and maybe even log in remotely to adminsiter the desktop when i'm away from home. I've been reading stuff online, but nothing that is really newb friendly. Like, I still haven't figured out if I need to statically assign ip addresses from my router. I did, just in case, but is it necessary? A
[15:27] <ikonia> Raiscan you may want to check this, but I'm reading through error logs now, and it appears to be a common issue with wine and certain setups
[15:27] <chrisorange2> LiJ, i found a soloution for the problem
[15:28] <oOarthurOo> At this point I've got everything needed installed on both computers, and I've changed a few settings on my host computer according to some things I've read online, for instance, changing the port that it listens on.
[15:28] <Raiscan> ikonia: is there any solutions posted after said error logs? :)
[15:28] <chrisorange2> LiJ, i had to right click on firefox symbol and change the size for the window
[15:28] <Raiscan> perhaps it's an opengl problem. I'm unsure about restricted video drivers though
[15:29] <tsuna27><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:29] <oOarthurOo> But I don't know if I've got keys made yet, or how to connect to the host machine once I do get the generated. Is the host name the statically assigned ip address on my home network? And what about when I'm at school and want to dial in, how do I figure out the host name then?
[15:29] <frybyeikon> ikonia: gimp now has new menu option "print with gutenprint" and that works fine.. the regular print option still now working - dont matter i guess..
[15:31] <pronoy> ikonia : hey got any ideas ?
[15:31] <ikonia> pronoy: do you know the name of the share you want
[15:31] <jpablanche> please kindly tell me how to start pidgin automatically in startup thanks?
[15:32] <frybyeikon> ikonia: sorry there was a typpo .. regular print option still NOT working....
[15:32] <frybyeikon> ikonia: but like I say - not so important I guess, when the gutenberg sys working...
[15:32] <jpablanche> please anyone in this room sir and mam how to start pidgin during startup?
[15:32] <ikonia> frybyeikon: try rebooting the PC  -see if it changes the status of the cups daemon
[15:33] <Brucevdk> jpablanche: System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[15:33] <jpablanche> o i see thank you i will try it now Brucevdk
[15:34] <iman_> how do you run audacity in a wrapper for another audio driver?
[15:34] <Brucevdk> iman_: there's aoss I guess
[15:34] <w0ls0n> well vmware sure works a bit better on ubuntu 8.10
[15:34] <jin> I'm getting an error when installing vmware on my ubuntu intrepid amd64 system. any onw knows about this bug?
[15:34] <Brucevdk> iman_: http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Linux_Issues#OSS_vs_ALSA
[15:35] <w0ls0n> jin did you install the 64-bit version?
[15:35] <jin> w0ls0n, yes
[15:35] <mon^rch> vmware users should try virtualbox... it's free
[15:35] <oOarthurOo> Maybe I'll rephrase my story in the form of a question: To use ssh file sharing on a local network, is it important to statically assign ip addresses from the router?
[15:35] <jpablanche> woah there is a command Brucevdk how could i know the command?
[15:35] <w0ls0n> jin I downloaded the standard 32-bit and it works fine for me
[15:35] <jpablanche> sir
[15:35] <jin> w0ls0n, I think the error is related to kernel module compilation
[15:35] <ikonia> oOarthurOo: no
[15:35] <w0ls0n> jin it very well could be
[15:35] <EugenMayer> is there something in the rep. which can plot graphs or points into an coordiante-system?
[15:36] <prodigel> hi all. I've installed anjuta in ubuntu, never used it, made a test.c file and I can't link it. compile works, build is grayed. How can I set anjuta to be able to build files. My final purpose is to have an ide that can compile and run files/projects from menu.
[15:36] <DasEI>  jin: I had no probs (hardy), build-essential installed before ?
[15:36] <cserzsike> Hi! I installed the latest ubuntu (8.10 amd64), but I can't find any skype package. I tried to download it from the skype.com, but it won't install, it says, that the package is a i386 version, but my system is amd64. The static version doesn't works too: If I try to start, it says: No such file or directory. Anyone succeded to run skype on the newest ubuntu?
[15:36] <jin> DasEI, they are installed
[15:36] <Brucevdk> jpablanche: you can find out the command by going Applications -> Internet -> Pidgin -> Right click -> Add this launcher to desktop -> Right click launcher on desktop -> Properties -> Basic tab -> Command
[15:36] <DasEI>  jin: used the 64 linux version ?
[15:36] <jin> DasEI, this is a ubuntu amd64 system with the latest update by the way
[15:36] <Brucevdk> jpablanche: good point though.....
[15:36] <DasEI>  jin: same here
[15:36] <jpablanche> ok thank you very much sir ill try it
[15:37] <oOarthurOo> thank you ikonia, but what if I also want to be able to access the machine remotely. Wouldn't a static ip address be important so that I could open a port on the router and forward it to one machine only?
[15:37] <jin> DasEI, what veriosn of vmware are you using, can you tell me the build #?
[15:37] <DasEI>  jin: hardy or ibex ?
[15:37] <Brucevdk> jpablanche: actually even easier, you can drag the launcher to the session window
[15:37] <jin> DasEI, Ibex
[15:37] <ikonia> oOarthurOo: thats up to you if you make it static or dynamic, and also depends how your dns is setup
[15:37] <ValentineX> Brucevdk: you are not calling my name then why your name font is yellow?
[15:37] <DasEI>  jin: hardy here, I'm on ibex right now, was newest (6.5 or sth)
[15:38] <Brucevdk> ValentineX: because I am the man!
[15:38] <ValentineX> Brucevdk: :D
[15:38] <jin> crap, mine is 6.01
[15:38] <frybyeikon> ikonia: ok thanks...
[15:38] <iman_> Brucedvk: thanks many!
[15:38] <oOarthurOo> ikonia: I don't even know what a dns is. I doubt I have one. Our ISP handles that I think. It assigns ip addresses to us here, but those ip addresses get renewed from time to time.
[15:38] <Raiscan> okay, how can I restart X via command line?
[15:38] <pronoy> ikonia: i have no idea what you mean.....total noob here
[15:39] <DasEI>  jin: 6.5. 118166
[15:39] <jin> that's the problem maybe
[15:39] <Brucevdk> iman_: np
[15:39] <ikonia> oOarthurOo: then you can't use a static ip if your isp assigns it
[15:39] <ikonia> pronoy: do you know the name of the windows share you want to connecct to
[15:39] <w0ls0n> can someone help me with /etc/fstab? I can do mount /dev/sdb1 /backup but I am not 100% sure how to add the entry in /etc/fstab
[15:39] <Brucevdk> Raiscan: I guess $ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart , would be one option
[15:39] <ikonia> w0ls0n: it looks exactly the same as the other lines - but with a different uuid and mount point
[15:40] <pronoy> ikonia: nope.....is there a way to find out a list ?
[15:40] <Raiscan> okay, thanks Brucevdk
[15:40] <ikonia> pronoy: ask your windows admin what the name of the share is you want
[15:40] <pronoy> ikonia: i have an account on it....does that help...i know the name of it....
[15:41] <ikonia> pronoy: no
[15:41] <ikonia> pronoy: ask your windows admin the name of the share you want
[15:41] <n8tuser> w0ls0n-> /dev/sdb1 /backup     ext3    defaults        0       2  something like this
[15:41] <pronoy> ikonia ok...in that case i'll get back to you later
[15:43] <oOarthurOo> Maybe I'm not making sense. I don't understand this very well. I have a router that three computers on the home network use to connect to the internet. The router gets it information from our ISP, which doesn't provide a static ip, but it is relatively stable, changing a few times a year, or after power failures, etc.  One of the computer is a desktop, and the other two are laptops. I want to be able to connect to the desktop fr
[15:43] <NET||abuse> Hey guys. i was having issues with getting the mic to work on my eeepc on intrepid with skype, anyone have any tips on trouble shooting the mic input? I tried skype->options-> sound devices, I can hear the other person when i swiitch sound out to pulse, and the ringer works with pulse also, i try setting pulse for sound in, but no joy.. any trouble shooting tips would be great.
[15:43] <ikonia> oOarthurOo: so what's the problem then ?
[15:44] <NET||abuse> oOarthurOo: i think you clipped the end of your question there.
[15:44] <jaypro> whats the full path of the firefox?  im running a program thats looks for a web browser, but i dont know where to point it to.
[15:44] <jin> how do you connect to a cvs server on Ubuntu?
[15:44] <NET||abuse> jaypro: /usr/bin/firefox
[15:44] <Claudio-Rossi> hello i have a problem with opera 9.62. i have flash 9 and not run in opera ¿why?
[15:44] <NET||abuse> jin: cvs? that's kinda old hat no? well, just install cvs client
[15:45] <jaypro> NET||abuse> are all executables stored in the /user/bin directory?
[15:45] <NET||abuse> jaypro: most apps used by users are yes
[15:45] <n8tuser> Claudio-Rossi-> i dont know if flash even run with opera, i am not able to make it work either
[15:45] <jaypro> cool. thanks, NET||abuse!
[15:45] <NET||abuse> jaypro: there aer some system admin executables that will live in other places like /usr/sbin or /sbin or other locations
[15:45] <Iradieh> I got two commands that I want to run at boot, could someone help me?
[15:45] <jaypro> oh okay
[15:46] <jaypro> good to know
[15:46] <oOarthurOo> ikonia: The problem is I can't find any newb friendly docs explaining this to me. For exampe, how do I connect to the desktop when at home? It was why I told the router to give each computer a static ip on the home network. Because I thought that was the "host name"
[15:46] <ikonia> oOarthurOo: as your not using dynamic dns - you won't be able to use hostnames
[15:46] <NET||abuse> jaypro: indeed :) there are some good file system layout guides and diagrams that explain the purpose of the various linux directory layouts
[15:46] <ikonia> oOarthurOo: you basiclly need to connect to your machines ip addresses
[15:46] <Pizarro> Hello
[15:47] <n8tuser> oOarthurOo-> you have to have entries in /etc/hosts  file to make the resolver resolve to host names, or if you get fancy your own dns server
[15:47] <Pizarro> I can't finde any CONNECT option in my Network Manager for the VPN connections, however I have the option to add a new one and configure it, please I need help
[15:47] <Claudio-Rossi> hello i have a problem with opera 9.62. i have flash 9 and not run in opera ¿why?
[15:47] <drcode> hi all
[15:47] <maek> in 8.10 my xorg.conf is really sparse, and in gnome I can do "screen resolution" where is that getting set if not in the xorg.conf?
[15:47] <Iradieh> I got two commands that I want to run at boot, could someone help me? I got Xubuntu, I tried  program.desktop at /etc/xdg/autostart but it Doesnt work, I just need two command to run at boot two commands in a file, each in one row
[15:47] <jaypro> NET||abuse: oh there are? i should take a look/search at that! thanks again!
[15:48] <ikonia> Iradieh: what commands ?
[15:48] <drcode> I need help with compere 1 files aginst 160 folder and subfolder , if one of them not equal I want to know
[15:48] <drcode> any idea?
[15:48] <Pizarro> Can anyone help me with this please???
[15:48] <jpablanche> sir/madam what is the channel for samba?
[15:48] <Iradieh> ikonia: bitlbee -c ~/bitlee/bitlbee.conf and screen -m -d etc etc
[15:48] <n8tuser> Iradieh-> you can add to /etc/rc.local
[15:48] <ikonia> !sessions > Iradieh
[15:49] <ikonia> !autostart
[15:49] <Iradieh> ikonia: no thanks, jeez
[15:49] <ikonia> Iradieh: what ?
[15:49] <ikonia> Iradieh: no thanks
[15:49] <Iradieh> ikonia: No,
[15:49] <ikonia> ??
[15:50] <ikonia> Iradieh: what do you mean "no"
[15:50] <FloodBot2> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:50] <mon^rch> any word on the name of the next ubuntu? and will it be LTS?
[15:50] <ikonia> mon^rch: 6 months, and no it won't be
[15:50] <Pizarro> PLease help with a Network Manager, it is not giving me the option to connect to the VPN networks I configure
[15:50] <jpablanche> who knows the channer for samba server?
[15:50] <frybye> ikonia: I have an idea what the problem was.. it looks like I perhaps have to close the Isane scanning appl before printing - because that might cause the printer to be flagged as -busy- ??
[15:50] <ikonia> jpablanche: #samba
[15:50] <ikonia> frybye: seems interesting
[15:50] <wiehan> Are there any GTK2 theme editors/creators out there, I did google it but it seemed inconclusive
[15:50] <frybye> either way it is now working - after closing Isane...
[15:50] <Firewall27> hello.. Can Somone help me  configure resolution  to card display????
[15:50] <jpablanche> i cant connect to #samba?
[15:51] <ikonia> jpablanche: what command are you using to join the samba channel
[15:51] <oOarthurOo> ikonia: ok... I know what those are, and how to find those out. n8tuser suggested that I could say enter into my hosts file something like <IP_ADDRESS> Desktop.  In which case, I would then be able to say either connect to <IP_ADDRESS>  or connect to Desktop. Both would work. Am I starting to understand this?
[15:51] <jpablanche> join #samba
[15:51] <KableKiB> hi
[15:51] <ikonia> jpablanche: /join #samba
[15:51] <jpablanche> what is the right command
[15:51] <jpablanche> thanks i will try
[15:51] <Roofel> or just do /join Samba
[15:51] <Pizarro> Any help with a VPN connection using UBUNTU?
[15:52] <Roofel> the # gets applied automaticly
[15:52] <EugenMayer> anybody can help me finding a tool to visualize points in a coord-system ?
[15:52] <frybye> Roofel: dosent that depend on the client perhaps??
[15:52] <Roofel> Most clients ive tried does that automaticly
[15:52] <n8tuser> oOarthurOo-> put a full domain name in the /etc/hosts    not just Desktop, so it would be like desktop.myhome.com
[15:52] <jpablanche> oh thank you people
[15:52] <frybye> ok...
[15:52] <KableKiB> yeah
[15:52] <NET||abuse> So having  mic issues in skype, sound device options work for incoming sound(i can hear them) but for the skype test call and actual calls, the mic hasn't worked.. Any program i can do a test audio recording to see what sound source seems to work for the mic?
[15:52] <ney> hi folks
[15:52] <Roofel> mIRC, Chatzill etc etc, all did it automaticly
[15:52] <ney> im having trouble to put a 3g modem here on ubuntu
[15:52] <NET||abuse> I'm on a eeePC 100h
[15:53] <ney> iv got all the configurations, but its not on the dev list
[15:53] <Roofel> but ofcourse some links got ##name :P
[15:53] <NET||abuse> uh, sorry a 1000h
[15:53] <oOarthurOo> NET||abuse: I thought I read something about pulse not working correctly with skype...
[15:53] <frybye> NET||abuse: with intrepid???
[15:53] <NET||abuse> frybye: yes
[15:53] <kanhiya78> DasEI:  please read my private message
[15:53] <oOarthurOo> NET||abuse: Have you tried chaing the sound input back to alsa and testing it?
[15:53] <NET||abuse> oOarthurOo: really, aww nads.... hmm
[15:53] <DasEI>   kanhiya78 : ah, still alive
[15:54] <NET||abuse> oOarthurOo: well, i can run some more test runs i suppose to get it right.
[15:54] <Firewall27> SOMEONE KNOW THIS PROGRAM..BulletproofX???????????????????????????
[15:54] <frybye> oOarthurOo: at least with 64bit ibex one needs to go for the medibuntu skype-static-oss package...
[15:54] <mon^rch> anyone got a link as to the new features in intrepid?
[15:54] <bazhang> Firewall27, no caps
[15:54] <oOarthurOo> NET||abuse: You'd still be able to use pulse for all audiio playback
[15:54] <NET||abuse> oOarthurOo: ok, i'll give it another bash in skype options.
[15:54] <Firewall27> Can someone to helpme whit BulletproofX???????????
[15:54] <oOarthurOo> Try gnome options, and leave skype options alone.
[15:54] <Firewall27> who start this progrma?????????
[15:55] <DreadKnight> Firewall27: isn't that an Xorg feature.. ?
[15:55] <frybye> NET||abuse: us used a www.array.ogr kernel...?
[15:55] <Pizarro> I need help with VPN connection configuration please
[15:55] <NET||abuse> frybye: naw, didn't use it.. do i really have to?
[15:55] <DreadKnight> Firewall27: mutliple question marks make you look like an 11 year old anime fanatic.
[15:55] <Firewall27> yes!!!
[15:55] <frybye> no way if you have everything working...
[15:55] <whileimhere> Hi I have just created some graphics for a layout which I wish to attach an open source kind of gpl license where it is totally free for others to use and modify my work. Is there a site where I can get the text fro this rather than rewrite it myself?
[15:55] <Firewall27> yes it is!!
[15:55] <hax> how can i change the style of the xfce-menue ? :)
[15:56] <Chousuke> whileimhere: cretive commons
[15:56] <Firewall27> nonono
[15:56] <frybye> I have a 701 4g and have used the array kernel and works fine - no tweaking necessary.. or hardly any.. just the close-down fix..
[15:56] <C0p3rn1c> hi I can't get my standby to work on my system, I keep getting kernell panic :S (ubuntu 8.04 @ dell latitude D830), any idea's on how to fix it ? I followed https://wiki.edubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/DellLatitudeD830
[15:56] <Chousuke> whileimhere: google that, they have many different licences.
[15:56] <Firewall27> i speak spanish
[15:56] <oOarthurOo> NET||abuse:  hit alt+F2 then this "gnome-sound-properties", then change sound capture to alsa, then restart skype. And pray.
[15:56] <NET||abuse> frybye: everything worked pretty handily off the bat, eee-applet enabled the hot keys, even the web cam with cheese(though havn't got video out of it yet)
[15:56] <DreadKnight> whileimhere: just license it under public license and say something do whatever you want with it or you could use creativecommons site and generate a license link
[15:56] <DreadKnight> whileimhere: public domain*
[15:56] <EarthWorm44> Hi @ all
[15:57] <eisxom> boe
[15:57] <eisxom> :)
[15:57] <frybye> NET||abuse: my logitech communicator xts produces only a green mess with skype...
[15:57] <s0undt3ch> hello ppl
[15:57] <frybye> the audio part works but - like you - no video...
[15:57] <s0undt3ch> is intrepid the latest stable?
[15:57] <s0undt3ch> or should I stick with hardy?
[15:57] <bazhang> s0undt3ch, yes
[15:58] <alienko> hi all
[15:58] <Firewall27> How to start BulletproofX able to configure my Xorg?
[15:58] <Firewall27> ????????????
[15:58] <s0undt3ch> bazhang: so no problems if I upgrade from hardy to intrepid?
[15:58] <C0p3rn1c> s0undt3ch: interpid has a stable release
[15:58] <frybye> sound3ch - sure is but not LTS
[15:58] <bazhang> s0undt3ch, you should try the live cd first
[15:58] <RandomCake> Hi, I'm trying to set up a multi-boot environment, but I've not a clue what to add to grubs menu.lst, and searching doesn't seem to bring up anything useful, I want to just use a single boot loader and not chain load, any tips?
[15:58] <Firewall27> How to start BulletproofX able to configure my Xorg?
[15:58] <Firewall27> ????????????????????
[15:59] <n8tuser> RandomCake-> you can not avoid the chain loader,  man interfaces
[15:59] <sudobash> upgrade worked well for me...
[15:59] <Firewall27> How to start BulletproofX able to configure my Xorg?
[15:59] <Firewall27> How to start BulletproofX able to configure my Xorg?
[15:59] <Firewall27> How to start BulletproofX able to configure my Xorg?
[15:59] <FloodBot2> Firewall27: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:59] <Roofel> :P
[15:59] <ney> hi folks
[15:59] <mikethk> Hi. I got a Nvidia driver for my Ubuntu system. But i cant change the resolution to what my monitor can do?
[15:59] <frybye> s0undt3ch: some of us tend to go for a backup and fresh install.. ..
[15:59] <ney> iv created the udev configurations to my 3g modem
[15:59] <Roofel> What does mode +zb do?
[16:00] <Firewall27> can someone help me?????????????
[16:00] <Firewall27> pleaseeeeee
[16:00] <Firewall27> :(
[16:00] <s0undt3ch> frybye: me too, but right now I'm not up to a fresh install ;)
[16:00] <Roofel> No sorry Firewall27..
[16:00] <Roofel> never heard of it imo :P
[16:00] <ney> but when i try to wvdial the tty dont exists
[16:00] <Tm_T> !patience | Firewall27
[16:00] <Firewall27> please!eeee
[16:00] <rand0mabo> Is there a way to trevert back to hardy heron from intrepide without losing all my data?!?
[16:00] <frybye> Firewall27: just ask your ?
[16:00] <rand0mabo> *revert
[16:00] <Firewall27> How to start BulletproofX able to configure my Xorg?
[16:00] <Firewall27> frybye can help me?????????
[16:01] <Firewall27> :(
[16:01] <jpablanche> sir/madam this is the specs of my pc pentium III 700mhz with 320mb ram, not shared 32mb geforce vga card it is possible to flip my desktop?
[16:01] <sudobash> I just printed a document on a friends printer in California from Tennessee, I have access to his router and i saw his printer was on line so I port forwarded 9100 to it and tryed printing with a generic HP Deskjet 960c drivers
[16:01] <bazhang> Firewall27, dont repeat
[16:01] <sudobash> looks like it worked...
[16:01] <jpablanche> or 3d effects?
[16:01] <Tm_T> jpablanche: I'd say if you're not in hurry
[16:01] <frybye> Firewall27: no clue about your ? - some probs take a day or two to get answered..
[16:01] <NET||abuse> oOarthurOo: frybye: thanks for the tips, not working yet, but have to rush off and work on stuff now,, try aain another day.
[16:01] <s0undt3ch> by the way, intrepid dropped kde3?
[16:01] <rand0mabo> I'm having nothing but problems with Intrepid IBex and want to revert back to Hardy Heron..   im a relative noob though, so does anyone know any simple/easy ways to do that?
[16:01] <Tm_T> s0undt3ch: yes
[16:01] <rand0mabo> without losing data prefereably
[16:01] <bazhang> s0undt3ch, yes
[16:01] <freeatlast> Anyone know about an educational game named Chilsplay ? ?
[16:02] <jpablanche> yes Tm_T
[16:02] <s0undt3ch> but kde3 is still available?
[16:02] <Firewall27> nooo
[16:02] <mikethk> I got a problem I can see many others got the same.... I cant change my resolution til what I want it to be? Why does x server not allow me to do that?
[16:02] <s0undt3ch> ie, not instaled but available=
[16:02] <oOarthurOo> when using ssh-keygen, is it important supply a passphrase. I'm the only root user on all three machines. And I want this to be simple and easy to connect and share.
[16:02] <Tm_T> s0undt3ch: in 8.04 or in unsupported sources
[16:02] <C0p3rn1c> how safe is it to update from 8.04 to 8.10?
[16:02] <oOarthurOo> I don't understand the danger or risk that is introduced by not using a passphrase with my ssh-keygen
[16:02] <rand0mabo> C0p3rn1c, you mean downgrade... and iunno.. ive been asking that question
[16:03] <rand0mabo> err from
[16:03] <rand0mabo> nvm
[16:03] <s0undt3ch> dam, I wasn't too keen on kde4 :\
[16:03] <atarimoe_> question... I'm using XDMCP from a laptop to log into a desktop.  Is there any way to access a USB pen drive by plugging it into either one of the computers?
[16:03] <C0p3rn1c> rand0mabo: why do you want to go back ? :)
[16:03] <oOarthurOo> rand0mabo: You cannot downgrade.
[16:03] <rand0mabo> C0p3rn1c:  no support for my video card
[16:03] <freeatlast> I need help with the "Childsplay" game for children  - There is only one module installed a memory game - Someone know how to add more modules ? ?
[16:03] <C0p3rn1c> rand0mabo: they removed support ?
[16:04] <oOarthurOo> rand0mabo: if you're home is on a serarate partition, you can reinstall without much trouble. Otherwise... sad times.
[16:04] <wiehan> I am encountering a bug in intrepid: while using the DarkRoom theme, the windows Close buttuon "X" (or all the buttons) disappear, or the window title sometimes disappear or turn a strange scrambled green!! How can this be fixed, is this a known issue? I am running a pretty clean (basic) install, so I strongly doubt it is somehting I did to cause this..
[16:04] <n8tuser> atarimoe_-> did you try to plug it in? and how are you trying to access it? from which side?
[16:04] <jokkaa> How can i install the "fluxbox-menu-editor"?
[16:04] <ichigo-soul-reap> Hello! I have a simple question about themes :)
[16:04] <dfgas> usb-creator just sits at starting up and doesn't do anything, what is wrong here?
[16:04] <Delvien>  wiehan i think thats the nvidia bug
[16:04] <rand0mabo> oOarthurOo: hrmm.. well i have a win xp partition, and my ubuntu partition... each partition is roughly 40 gb (stupid choice when first stting it up).. so I have pretty much just media & stuff on my ubuntu partition...
[16:05] <wiehan> Delvien: is it being addressed?
[16:05] <Brucevdk> !ask | ichigo-soul-reap
[16:05] <rand0mabo> oOarthurOo:  I'm just gonna burn and backup all my data... but after that, if I just re-install ubuntu 8.04 from the CD i originally used, should that do it?
[16:05] <ichigo-soul-reap> I like dark desktop themes, but how come there are no icons in openoffice.org when I use one?
[16:05] <C0p3rn1c> any latitude D830 users in here ?
[16:05] <oOarthurOo> rand0mabo:  Why not just copy the data over to your windows, then reinstall?
[16:05] <wiehan> rand0mabo: rather download intrepid instead?
[16:05] <mark488> hi all...  how can i unarchive .rar (& .r00 .r01 .r02...) files?  Archive Manager says archive type not supported, and XArchive manager has the rar wrapper but "needed program not found" (no cmd line utils rar and unrar).  I don't see rar&unrar included in any options in add/remove-software.  Any help?
[16:05] <atarimoe_> n8tuser: I tried plugging it into both sides... no effect on the laptop side (the client) and it shows up in the desktop (server) side, but won't let me access it.  It gives an "Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied."
[16:05] <admin_masu3701> hello guys
[16:06] <Newk> freeatlast:http://childsplay.sourceforge.net/plugins.php
[16:06] <Delvien> C0p3rn1c: i use d820
[16:06] <admin_masu3701> what application can i use to play videos?
[16:06] <rand0mabo> oOarthurOo: no room on the windows partition
[16:06] <jpablanche> what kind of error is this desktop effect could not be enable?
[16:06] <rand0mabo> wiehan: what?
[16:06] <Roofel> Is it possible by using Terminal to increase the size of the Ubuntu installation? (I used Wubi to install it and need to increase the size from 5gig to 15gig) :)
[16:06] <davidfx> hello all
[16:06] <bazhang> admin_masu3701, vlc amongst others
[16:06] <n8tuser> atarimoe_-> is it mounted properly?
[16:06] <C0p3rn1c> mark488: use a difrent archiver
[16:06] <wiehan> admin_masu3701: Are you having difficulty playing files? Then perhaps you need the right codecs
[16:07] <atarimoe_> n8tuser: it gives the error when it tries to mount
[16:07] <freeatlast> Newk, Thanks much - just came across this site after doing a google search.
[16:07] <mikethk> Im all new on Ubuntu................ I got problems with whatever i do???????? Will this keep on going? Is Ubuntu just a full time job?
[16:07] <Roofel> admin_masu3701: I believe VLC is possible to install on linux by native :)
[16:07] <n8tuser> atarimoe_-> you sudo to root and modify how it is mounted, look at the /etc/fstab  on both sides
[16:07] <C0p3rn1c> mark488: I use File-roller 2.22.3
[16:07] <oOarthurOo> rand0mabo: Too bad. In an ideal world you'd have all your data on a separate home partition, say 20GB, a windows partition of about 14 GB, and Ubuntu of about 5GB. Makes upgrades, reinstalls and sharing a snap.
[16:07] <admin_masu3701> wiehan: i have a dvd i want to watch
[16:08] <digifor> If I do gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" and there are defective files on the cd will it try to use apt to replace them?
[16:08] <Roofel> admin_masu3701: Use VLC for it :)
[16:08] <jpablanche> how to install vlc ?
[16:08] <admin_masu3701> ok
[16:08] <tamara> every time my my laptop resumes from suspend it asks for a password. how can i disable that?
[16:08] <rand0mabo> oOarthurOo: heh yeah... i figure i might try that this time around so this doesn't happen again.. but case in point, i just want to clarify that assuming I do backup all of the data, i can just re-install Hardy Heron via the cd I originally used, and it should pretty much just start completely fresh?
[16:08] <C0p3rn1c> Delvien: Does your standby work ?
[16:08] <Roofel> It supports most codecs and its downloadable directly to Linux :)
[16:08] <mark488> C0p3rn1c:  re: use diff archiver....   looks like most archivers on add/remove-software require/use cmd line archive utils
[16:08] <wiehan> admin_masu3701: just google how to add medibuntu repositories
[16:09] <Roofel> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[16:09] <bazhang> no
[16:09] <Roofel> That is how to download VLC fo Ubuntu :)
[16:09] <wiehan> admin_masu3701: and then install libdvdcss
[16:09] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install vlc
[16:09] <bazhang> Roofel, no
[16:09] <oOarthurOo> rand0mabo: Absolutely. And all the updates that will be applied will be for Hardy.
[16:09] <C0p3rn1c> mark488:  Not with file-roller
[16:09] <bazhang> it is in the repos Roofel
[16:09] <mikethk> jpablanche, go to terminal write sudo apt-get install vlc
[16:09] <Roofel> Well bazhang, I did it with that link and it worked kinda easy :P
[16:09] <digifor> jpablanche: or sudo aptitude install vlc
[16:09] <Roofel> You use the terminal to get it though
[16:10] <bazhang> Roofel, that breaks package management
[16:10] <jpablanche> after installing it where can i find it
[16:10] <wiehan> admin_masu3701: Nobody seems to bother that you actually want to watch a DVD, which is most likely encrypted, thus advice concerning installing VLC won't do a thing without the right codecs..
[16:10] <mikethk> in application
[16:10] <Roofel> Well, on the start of the page it stands: "Open Synaptic (System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager). In Settings -> Repositories, make sure you have a "multiverse" repository activated."
[16:10] <bazhang> applications sound and videos jpablanche
[16:10] <atarimoe_> n8tuser: I'm not seeing anything about it in /etc/fstab on the server side....
[16:10] <Roofel> then you just use apt-get to get it installed
[16:10] <jpablanche> alright
[16:11] <mark488> C0p3rn1c: mark488:  Not with file-roller:  will take a look for it in add/remove-sw.  thx!
[16:11] <C0p3rn1c> Delvien: What version of ubuntu do you have ?
[16:11] <digifor> jpablanche: it will be in your applications sound and video
[16:11] <lvlefisto> is free the ubottu source code?
[16:11] <bazhang> lvlefisto, it is supybot
[16:11] <jpablanche> alright then i have version 7.10
[16:11] <lvlefisto> bazhang: thanks
[16:11] <wiehan> why o why has no-one yet created a GTK+2 theme editor?
[16:11] <jpablanche> thank you people
[16:11] <C0p3rn1c> mark488: np, you can also type sudo apt-get install file-roller
[16:11] <mikethk> libdvdcss2 download that file and install it, then you will be able to watch DVD in Ubuntu's own player
[16:11] <C0p3rn1c> in the console
[16:12] <Delvien> C0p3rn1c: 8.10
[16:12] <davidfx> is there a linux chrome yet
[16:12] <n8tuser> atarimoe_-> perhaps an entry in  /etc/udev/rules.d  you have to look around how a usb works in hotplug
[16:12] <C0p3rn1c> Delvien: Does your stanby work ?
[16:12] <mistercash> nesses client doesn't connect to nessusd?
[16:12] <bazhang> davidfx, no
[16:12] <davidfx> thanks
[16:12] <kksm19820117> Greetings. I am using Xubuntu(Hardy) . Can someone point me to some resources that will help me get multiple graphical logins, so I can get an extra screen at Ctrl-Alt+F8 ?
[16:12] <mikethk> HELP ME. my resolution sucks. it cant be that hard to fix...? can it?
[16:12] <n8tuser> atarimoe_-> http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[16:13] <Delvien> c0p i dont use sstandby. no point really. sorry
[16:13] <wiehan> mikethk have you installed any proprietary graphics drivers? Go to System --> Admini.. --> Hardware Drivers
[16:13] <mon^rch> kksm19820117: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271674
[16:13] <pindakaas117> system->preferences->screen resoution?
[16:14] <atarimoe_> n8tuser: thanks, that gives me a place to start
[16:14] <C0p3rn1c> Delvien: ok thx
[16:14] <mistercash> someone installed nessus and nessusd successfully?
[16:14] <n8tuser> kksm19820117-> you can look into /etc/gdm/custom.conf or gdm.conf
[16:14] <mikethk> wiehan, it tells me that i can add a earlier version of nvidia
[16:14] <Delvien> hopw do i turn joi/leave messages off in irssi/? (have always used xchat/)
[16:15] <mon^rch> kksm19820117: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271674
[16:15] <mon^rch> works great
[16:15] <mikethk> pindakaas117, dosent work can only get a bad resolution
[16:15] <kksm19820117> mon^rch, Thanks. :) Reading it atm.
[16:15] <mon^rch> np
[16:16] <kksm19820117> n8tuser, Thanks - will take a look,
[16:16] <pindakaas117> mikethk: k then it's probably your hardware drivers just like wiehan said
[16:16] <C0p3rn1c> mikethk: You can try EnvyNG
[16:16] <mikethk> wiehan, but i can try that. but it relly sucks...
[16:16] <Markimho> oi
[16:16] <Markimho> eu naum tenho ubuntu
[16:16] <mikethk> pindakaas117, prob is i cant change it, only to a earlier version
[16:16] <Markimho> vc ta i?
[16:16] <ValentineX1> Markimho: asodkaoskdasok
[16:17] <mikethk> C0p3rn1c, whats that?
[16:17] <Delvien> C0p3rn1c: i wouldnt suggest envy to anyone. it can break things badly
[16:17] <C0p3rn1c> Delvien: it works for me =)
[16:18] <Delvien> C0p3rn1c:  one users good experience doest mean everyone else had that luck :)
[16:18] <C0p3rn1c> mikethk: EnvyNG is your last resort, it automatically installs your videocard drivers
[16:18] <C0p3rn1c> Delvien: yeah ok, as you can see I recommend it as a last resort =)
[16:19] <Delvien> C0p3rn1c: aye
[16:19] <mikethk> C0p3rn1c, im 100% sure i got a video driver from nvidia... So im not in need of a driver. maybe a new driver? will envyNG find new driver maybe?
[16:19] <C0p3rn1c> mikethk: you can also download and install the drivers from the nvidia site
[16:19] <alessandro_> '
[16:20] <C0p3rn1c> mikethk: yes it will find a new one, but it's better to install a beta driver from the nvidia site
[16:20] <Roofel> Is it possible by using Terminal to increase the size of the Ubuntu installation? (I used Wubi to install it and need to increase the size from 5gig to 15gig) :) Trying not so spam so :P
[16:20] <Delvien> hopw do i turn joi/leave messages off in irssi/? (have always used xchat/)
[16:20] <dfgas> nm, i got usb-creator working right now
[16:20] <C0p3rn1c> Delvien: would you recommend the beta drivers from nvida ? :)
[16:20] <mikethk> C0p3rn1c, i try that
[16:21] <vasser> hello
[16:21] <Delvien> C0p3rn1c: 173 is stable 177+ is not
[16:21] <C0p3rn1c> Delvien: in my expirience the unstable ones work better then the stable =)
[16:21] <eldiable2005> salut
[16:21] <eldiable2005> hi
[16:22] <vasser> i have installed ubuntu (8.10) on a seperate partition (/dev/sdd3) and pointed it to install grub on /dev/sdd, i have tried getting the /dev/sdd mbr and use it, but it did not work (also for /dev/sdd3)
[16:22] <Delvien> C0p3rn1c: unstable has bugs that you may not have noticed or were lucky. Again one users exp :)
[16:22] <vasser> when i used the /dev/sdd mbr, all i got when booting was "GRUB "
[16:23] <wos> could anyone tell me how much harddrive space you should devote to swap as a percentage?
[16:23] <abizmol> Having a problem, whenever I modprobe tun, no devices are being created
[16:23] <vasser> what is the corrent command for outputting the mbr to a file ?
[16:23] <mark488> C0p3rn1c: looks like ArchiveManager is built on file-roller, yet ArchiveManager says "type not supported".   Ran update manager, in case my ArchiveManager/file-roller is too old.  Update didn't work.  This is an old installation...   How recent is rar?
[16:23] <C0p3rn1c> mikethk: ok yeah listen to Delvien, use the stable ones
[16:23] <wos> !swap
[16:23] <jvm_> hi. i use advanced desktop effects with 8.10, and for some reason, it loves to move my mouse pointer around. how can i deactivate this?
[16:23] <abizmol> Having a problem, whenever I modprobe tun, no devices are being created
[16:23] <technopagan> wos: 2x your RAM size is often suggested
[16:24] <C0p3rn1c> mark488: rar has bin around for ages
[16:24] <knoppix> hi
[16:24] <rigel> i know this is a dumb question
[16:24] <rigel> but how do i ls and only list directories
[16:24] <C0p3rn1c> mark488: maybe you can remove and re-install it ?
[16:24] <rigel> without using -l and grep
[16:25] <billybigrigger> is there still problems with the flashpluging-nonfree package on 8.10 64bit?
[16:25] <C0p3rn1c> billybigrigger: my flash is working perfectly
[16:25] <shiki9> hurray for multiple workspace !!!
[16:25] <C0p3rn1c> billybigrigger: on my 64 bit system
[16:26] <abizmol> Having a problem, whenever I modprobe tun, no devices are being created
[16:26] <mark488> C0p3rn1c: "maybe you can remove and re-install it ?"  that's an idea.  Will try...
[16:26] <sudobash> rigel: man ls
[16:26] <rigel> sudobash: yeah, i wasnt able to find anything
[16:26] <rigel> already done that
[16:27] <billybigrigger> C0p3rn1c, thanks
[16:27] <ERWWERR> i'm using ubuntu 8.10 and my flash is not working
[16:27] <ERWWERR> can anyone help me?
[16:27] <martinmunoz> Hi, is it ok to have your CPU running at 40% consistently?
[16:27] <martinmunoz> udevd is killing me.
[16:27] <C0p3rn1c> to fix flash : http://queleimporta.com/the-easiest-way-to-install-flash-10-on-ubuntu-64-bits/en
[16:27] <Delvien> martinmunoz: if you are doing stuff yes. if you arent doing anything and it idle no
[16:28] <sudobash> rigel then you missed ls -d
[16:28] <the_real_player1> ERWWERR: what is your problem?
[16:28] <sudobash> also you may like ls -a and ls -l
[16:28] <jvm_> video playback with mplayer, vlc, xine stopped working at the same time on my system, for no obvious reason. any hint what might have happened, or how i can get it to work again?
[16:28] <martinmunoz> Delvien: I mean is bad for my hardware? My laptop is hot, but i want to debug this.
[16:28] <martinmunoz> I'm basically idle. udevd is hanging
[16:29] <Delvien> martinmunoz: well what speed is your cpu?
[16:29] <martinmunoz> not quite sure actually haha
[16:29] <billybigrigger> martinmunoz, im running xchat, transmission, 2 filezilla clients, gimp, and apt-get upgrading some packages and not ever going over 20%
[16:29] <soho> hey guys, i think i have a problem with my ubuntu
[16:30] <xenome> how can I prevent console session hijacking
[16:30] <xenome> ?
[16:30] <martinmunoz> i just freshly installed 8.10
[16:30] <soho> I upgraded from Hardy Hero to Ibex, but when i boot my computer. It still has the old kernel to load
[16:30] <billybigrigger> martinmunoz, so if your at 40% idle you should type top in a terminal and see what process is using all your cpu
[16:30] <soho> is that normal?
[16:30] <C0p3rn1c> billybigrigger: I recommend you to go to this site : http://queleimporta.com/the-easiest-way-to-install-flash-10-on-ubuntu-64-bits/en
[16:30] <Finnish> I have a laptop that has AMD cpu, and ATI display. How do I get hardware-information from those? I mean current cpu voltage, thermal conditions etc?
[16:30] <Imaginativeone__> is there a way of converting my ide dvd writer into an external usb?
[16:30] <martinmunoz> udevd is constantly ~40% CPU
[16:30] <pranith> ubuntu on laptop sucks
[16:31] <sudobash> Finnish there are some tools on the AMD website
[16:31] <billybigrigger> C0p3rn1c, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree is all i did
[16:31] <pranith> *linux* on laptop sucks
[16:31] <martinmunoz> pranith: I'm starting to believe you
[16:31] <Brucevdk> anybody have a factoid for pranith?
[16:31] <sudobash> pranith actually I have seen quite a few GOOD laptops do quite well on Ubuntu
[16:31] <C0p3rn1c> billybigrigger: as long as it works =)
[16:31] <Delvien> Imaginativeone__: yes but this is a ubuntu support channel not a dvd drive support channel. check it out on google
[16:31] <sudobash> but it does suck if your laptop sucks first
[16:31] <TABASCO1> Hi there
[16:31] <pranith> sudobash, :)
[16:31] <Delvien> martinmunoz: linux works fine on laptops
[16:32] <pranith> the harddrive killing bug is really a headache
[16:32] <bazhang> !offtopic
[16:32] <martinmunoz> I want to believe that, heh.
[16:32] <TABASCO1> On all Intrepid Systems (live and installed) I get this error message when pluggin in my external harddrive: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/392784/
[16:32] <sudobash> i have installed Ubuntu on 1 Alienware Laptop that was like a $2000 unit
[16:32] <transcendo> thanks
[16:32] <sudobash> it was great
[16:32] <shubbar> ouch, no games after hasty upgrade to 8.10
[16:32] <C0p3rn1c> pranith: the only thing not working on my laptop is my standby
[16:32] <abizmol> [1425558.800453] tun: Universal TUN/TAP device driver, 1.6
[16:32] <abizmol> But I have no tun0
[16:32] <transcendo> lemme check them all out
[16:32] <Brucevdk> pranith: first of all it wasn't really a bug, and isn't it resolved in Ibex?
[16:32] <sudobash> quicker than windows and the CPU fan didn't run as much on Ubuntu
[16:32] <billybigrigger> ubuntu on my 1200 HP is great
[16:32] <Delvien> martinmunoz: what was the cpu speed i had to step away
[16:32] <pranith> Delvien, my laptop gets too hot even after 15 min of usage
[16:32] <pranith> due to the hardrive
[16:32] <sudobash> it ran at a lower rpm than on XP
[16:32] <TABASCO1> What's the reason for that? I mean, it's on every Intrepid.. how is that possible?
[16:33] <Delvien> pranith: thenits a driver or hw problem
[16:33] <martinmunoz> I'm not sure, nothing incredible ~1.6 GHz? It's an acer aspire 5570.
[16:33] <pranith> Brucevdk, I even filed a bug report
[16:33] <C0p3rn1c> pranith: maybe you should get some new fans or external laptop cooling
[16:33] <pranith> no action..
[16:33] <rebel_kid> i dont know much about networking, but can i use the ipx protocol in ubuntu? mainly for the purpose of games in wine
[16:33] <sudobash> yeah a chillpad
[16:33] <Brucevdk> pranith: bug #?
[16:33] <pranith> C0p3rn1c, it works fine on vista..
[16:33] <abizmol> HEY IM HAVING A FUCKING TUN0 ISSUE HERE EVERYONE STOP
[16:33] <abizmol> [1425558.800453] tun: Universal TUN/TAP device driver, 1.6
[16:33] <sudobash> i got the alienware owner to get a chillpad
[16:33] <abizmol> But I have no tun0
[16:33] <FloodBot2> abizmol: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:34] <pranith> Brucevdk, forum report sorry
[16:34] <bazhang> abizmol, no caps and no cursing
[16:34] <martinmunoz> Here's the deal: I am on a FRESH install. I installed Java6 SDK and amarok, nothing more. and after being on for 20 or so minutes udevd will hang at ~40% and Xorg will jump around between 0-20% (probably just a side effect of the other hang though).
[16:34] <abizmol> Any help is appreciated
[16:34] <rigel> ls -d does not return the list of directories, for whatever reason
[16:34] <rigel> i do ls -d and it just shows "."
[16:34] <Raiscan> ikonia: in regards to my XIO problem, it turns out glx wasn't being loaded, and neither were the radeon drivers. After some xorg.conf messing about I've managed to get it working. Thanks for your assistance :)
[16:34] <Brucevdk> pranith: so, why don't you submit it to LP?
[16:34] <rigel> when there are subdirs in the current dir
[16:34] <pranith> i changed the hdparm arguments so that the hardrive doesnt park
[16:35] <pranith> i dont know the actual number to use..
[16:35] <Brucevdk> pranith: there used to be a load cycle bug, but that one is well known
[16:35] <pranith> no official number given out
[16:35] <pranith> Brucevdk, yeah, the load cycle count issue
[16:35] <salata> üdv
[16:35] <pranith> i hate to use vista, but im compelled to use it
[16:35] <pranith> and run ubuntu in virtualbox.. :(
[16:35] <Brucevdk> pranith: shouldn't that have been resolved in Ibex? I used to use the hdparm -B 254 fix (hdd-ugly.sh), which worked fine.. no overheating
[16:36] <metbsd> lucky you, you don't want to run ubuntu, and run windows in virtualbox in it
[16:36] <C0p3rn1c> pranith: why don't you use ubuntu as your main os ?
[16:36] <martinmunoz> If i hit end process on udevd everything freezes except I can move my mouse around, nothing responds.
[16:36] <pranith> Brucevdk, 254 doesnt work for me.. 255 does.. which never parks the head.. and the harddrive always keeps spinning and hence overheats
[16:36] <admin_masu3701> W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.04.1 _Hardy Heron_ - Release amd64 (20080702.1)]/dists/hardy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[16:36] <admin_masu3701> W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.04.1 _Hardy Heron_ - Release amd64 (20080702.1)]/dists/hardy/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[16:36] <admin_masu3701> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[16:36] <sudobash> vista is terrible i have never used it for my own os
[16:36] <pranith> C0p3rn1c, too hot to use :(
[16:36] <metbsd> i want to use ubuntu as main os too, but i need to do web conference
[16:36] <sudobash> and never will and never will use 7
[16:37] <martinmunoz> Vista has some irritating "features" but at least it works.
[16:37] <sudobash> Ubuntu works better than Vista and quicker
[16:37] <martinmunoz> I used it for a long time, before attempting to switch to Ubuntu.
[16:37] <pranith> sudobash, atleast vista doesnt kill my laptop
[16:37] <C0p3rn1c> pranith: Brucevdk seems to have a solution for that
[16:37] <pranith> sudobash, its quicker and better.. but doesnt last long
[16:37] <LjL> !offtopic
[16:37] <mercury^> Hi, how can I disable pulseaudio? Removing the package forces one to remove ubuntu-desktop, which I don't want to do.
[16:37] <martinmunoz> right now ubuntu is destroying my cpu
[16:37] <martinmunoz> i can feel the heat
[16:38] <pranith> C0p3rn1c, that solution doesnt work for all
[16:38] <martinmunoz> someone fix udevd!!!
[16:38] <sudobash> Ubuntu hasnt killed anything I have put on it... but you have to understand I will fix anything that happens to a pc so nothing is really dead....
[16:38] <Brucevdk> martinmunoz: what do the sensors say? Limit your frequency?
[16:38] <metbsd> ubuntu is good, but for desktop using, no linux is as good as windows
[16:38] <martinmunoz> bruce, how? through the bios or what?
[16:38] <LjL> !offtopic | metbsd
[16:38] <Brucevdk> martinmunoz: there are two applets for this, with names that sound like frequency and sensors
[16:38] <ValentineX> RAM is 256, i want to optimize my Ubuntu for more faster speed
[16:38] <martinmunoz> k one sec
[16:38] <C0p3rn1c> pranith: I dident say that, but maybe you can try it
[16:39] <pranith> C0p3rn1c, already did :(
[16:39] <pranith> only thing which works is hdparm 255
[16:39] <sudobash> what do you mean it doesn't last long? it last long if your not a newb and play with things you don't know anything about
[16:39] <Brucevdk> martinmunoz: one is installed by default, the other can be installed using $ sudo apt-get install sensors-applet
[16:39] <pranith> and that heats up the harddrive.. keeps it spinning
[16:39] <pranith> sudobash, no official solution has been given for the load cycle count issue
[16:40] <Brucevdk> martinmunoz: you can also try something like: $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature
[16:40] <martinmunoz> unpacking!
[16:40] <martinmunoz> no such file, hmm.
[16:40] <Brucevdk> pranith: I'm not very familiar with hardware issues. But my temperature stays at 34C, even though I have disabled power management
[16:41] <Grab>  how can i burn a dvd if the dvd drive is being used by the live cd knoppix?
[16:41] <Brucevdk> pranith: do you know your HDD temperature?
[16:41] <pranith> Brucevdk, mine is at 47C
[16:41] <pranith> :(
[16:41] <metbsd> there's no way to use microphone and camera to do web conference with my clients using msn
[16:41] <sudobash> i heard it was a hardware issue
[16:41] <sudobash> as in the manufacturers problem....
[16:41] <C0p3rn1c> pranith: yeah there is still alot of work to be done in the hardware support section
[16:41] <pranith> sudobash, works well in vista
[16:41] <Brucevdk> pranith: you can always replace your HDD with one that isn't affected
[16:42] <martinmunoz> I don't know how to run sensors applet and the cat ....temperature.. command did not work.
[16:42] <pranith> Brucevdk, on a laptop??
[16:42] <pranith> Brucevdk, im not sure thats a good idea..
[16:42] <Brucevdk> pranith: sure you can, so did I, not sure if there's a HDD that isn't affected though
[16:42] <AAQiL> how to know the temperature? of HDD
[16:42] <jerbear> what is the default keyboard driver that's used in intrepid?
[16:42] <Brucevdk> pranith: why not? Laptop HDDs are just as easy to replace as normal ones
[16:42] <rand0mabo> oOarthurOo: k cool, thanks for your help (from earlier)
[16:42] <oOarthurOo> rand0mabo: good luck
[16:43] <pranith> Brucevdk, that is not a generic solution.. not everyone can and will do that
[16:43] <Brucevdk> pranith: no, but the question is, will you? :-)
[16:43] <mrudul> I'm trying to upgrade to Ubuntu intrepid ibex from hardy heron.  However, it doesn't let me upgrade.  rrunning sudo do-release-upgrade   shows  http://dpaste.com/89600/
[16:43] <pranith> Brucevdk, dont want to risk it :)
[16:43] <Brucevdk> pranith: the most generic solution is for the manufacturers to stop screwing around
[16:43] <mrudul> Failed upgrade tool signature
[16:44] <pranith> Brucevdk, why cant it work in ubuntu when it works in others?
[16:44] <mrudul> How do I fix this?
[16:44] <sudobash> mrudul update-manager -d
[16:44] <sudobash> run without sudo
[16:44] <Brucevdk> pranith: are you sure it hasn't been resolved for Ibex?
[16:44] <Brucee> whats the command to read mail on ubuntu server?
[16:44] <mrudul> sudobash: that fails as well
[16:44] <mrudul> "authentication failed"
[16:45] <sudobash> can you sudo anything?
[16:45] <freeatlast> I would like to move a the Start Icon for a application in Applications/Games to a Applications/Education folder - Anyone tell me easiest way to do this ? ?
[16:45] <mrudul> yes i can
[16:45] <pranith> Brucevdk, im using hardy.. so im not so sure :)
[16:45] <mrudul> oh that happens only after I try to "upgrade"
[16:45] <Brucevdk> pranith: here's the master bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695
[16:45] <sudobash> do... sudo apt-get update
[16:45] <mrudul> that works
[16:45] <sudobash> and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:45] <Brucevdk> pranith: you should try Ibex, as I believe it has been resolved
[16:45] <sudobash> update-manager -d
[16:46] <pranith> Brucevdk, cant spend another 3 days installing all the stuff.. i prefer lts :(
[16:46] <pranith> they should release the fix
[16:46] <mrudul> pranith: What doesn't work?
[16:46] <pranith> back port it to older releases
[16:46] <arrrghhh> pranith, stil with lts then
[16:46] <pranith> arrrghhh, yeah
[16:46] <arrrghhh> sudobash, a better way is do-release-upgrade
[16:46] <south> echo 2 c my nick.name
[16:47] <knoppix> if you reinstall ubuntu from CD, will it keep your home dir intact?
[16:47] <metbsd> is there a software for me to use microphone and camera to do web conference with my clients on msn?
[16:47] <arrrghhh> i upgraded my server and desktop in that fashion, flawlessly.  the new x.org and nvidia drivers on the other hand...
[16:47] <knoppix> metbsd, let me know if there is
[16:47] <pangloss> knoppix: not unless you have a seperate partition with your home dir and you tell it not to touch that dir
[16:47] <sudobash> i just did update-manager -d
[16:47] <DJones> knoppix: It depends how you originally installed, if you created a seperate home partition, you can specify to use that again without formatting it
[16:47] <sudobash> and it worked well
[16:48] <metbsd> knoppix, you did that before?
[16:48] <arrrghhh> knoppix, yes you must have it on a separate partition and not format that partition in order to preserve your /home.
[16:48] <knoppix> metbsd no, but I'm interested
[16:48] <joaopinto> pangloss, knoppix , actually 8.10 does support installing into a single partition without formatting
[16:48] <arrrghhh> sudobash, update-manager -d works, but i've found do-release-upgrade is more consistent.
[16:48] <sudobash> cool
[16:48] <knoppix> 8.10 is where you get a black splash startup screen?
[16:48] <pangloss> joaopinto: hmmm, ill have to check the release notes for that
[16:49] <metbsd> is there a software to do crazy things such as using microphone and camera to do web conference with my clients on msn? hehehe
[16:49] <heret1c>  My external cd/dvd writer maøfs with error "Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 0". What causes it?
[16:49] <joaopinto> pangloss, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbiquityPreserveHome
[16:49] <pangloss> joaopinto: ty
[16:49] <joaopinto> but it was buggy on the RC, hope it was fixed on the final cd
[16:49] <arrrghhh> metbsd, never needed to do that before, but does skype achieve that?
[16:50] <knoppix> arrrghhh, so I mkdir a directory mv all my home contents to it then, that should work or is there a more elegant method?
[16:50] <DJones> metbsd: You could try looking into Amsn, I think (from memory) that that lets you use a webcam with MSN clients
[16:50] <metbsd> since when can skype talk to msn clients?
[16:50] <DarkKnight> wen i watch a movie with any player.....the movie contrasts seems to be too high...this is the same case with all videos...it never happened before....suddenly today i saw this change...can anyone help??
[16:50] <joaopinto> metbsd, I believe amsn has webcam support, no idea about audio
[16:51] <metbsd> does anyone have actual experience did crazy stuff like webcam and voice SAME TIME with msn client
[16:51] <mrudul> ok i have apt-cacher-ng installed
[16:51] <mrudul> that has a cached copy of intrepid.gpg
[16:51] <joaopinto> metbsd, most linux users prefer to use non msn IM clients because there is better multimedia supporta :)
[16:51] <mrudul> how do i remove that cached copy?
[16:52] <arrrghhh> knoppix, when you format your disks initially you actually make a separate partition for /home...
[16:52] <DarkKnight> wen i watch a movie with any player.....the movie contrasts seems to be too high...this is the same case with all videos...it never happened before....suddenly today i saw this change...can anyone help??
[16:52] <joaopinto> mr-rich, just remove it from /var/cache/apt-cacher-ng/
[16:52] <szx0> How do I execute a script as sudo? i.e., $ sudo . ./myscript.sh does not work
[16:52] <arrrghhh> knoppix, then when you reinstall linux you tell it to wipe your / but not your /home - then your /home is preserved.  doesn't work if / and /home are on the same partition.  you can even have /home on a separate drive if you want.
[16:52] <Brucee> whats the command to read mail on ubuntu server?
[16:53] <Brucee> anyone?
[16:53] <joaopinto> szaszka, sudo ./script.sh (assuming you have set +x on it)
[16:53] <Cluber> whats the best java IDE for ubuntu?
[16:53] <joaopinto> arrrghhh, the ubuntu 8.10 installer does support installing into a single partition preserving the /home
[16:53] <arrrghhh> Brucee, google would definitely be your friend there... assuming you're setting up a pop server etc
[16:53] <pangloss> !best | Cluber
[16:54] <szx0> joaopinto, ahhhh you're right i forgot to make it +x... thanks
[16:54] <metbsd> joaopinto,  i know, i try to be a linux user, but my friends don't use linux, they use windows and msn live
[16:54] <arrrghhh> joaopinto, if your formatting / and /home is on that same partition then there's no way to preserve /home...
[16:54] <mrudul> metbsd: What are you trying to do?
[16:54] <joaopinto> arrrghhh, you do not need to format, the installar will remove all the system dirs
[16:54] <DarkKnight> wen i watch a movie with any player.....the movie contrasts seems to be too high...this is the same case with all videos...it never happened before....suddenly today i saw this change...can anyone help??
[16:54] <Cluber> what is your favourite(Personal preference) java IDE?
[16:54] <RUMMY> after ubuntu installation I installed windows xp and now I don't have grub. how I can restore it?
[16:54] <heret1c>  My external cd/dvd writer malfunctions with error "Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 0". What may be the cause? Worked fine in 8.04.
[16:54] <pangloss> !repeat | DarkKnight
[16:54] <joaopinto> !best | Cluber
[16:54] <LjL> Cluber, what part of "do not take polls in the channel" did you miss? ;)
[16:55] <RUMMY> !grub
[16:55] <arrrghhh> joaopinto, well that must be new, usually it'll install another ubuntu if you don't format.
[16:55] <DarkKnight> wen i watch a movie with any player.....the movie contrasts seems to be too high...this is the same case with all videos...it never happened before....suddenly today i saw this change...can anyone help??
[16:55] <Cluber> im asking for an opion ffs
[16:55] <metbsd> i'm trying to prove that in linux, it's easy to do web conference with msn messenger, just as easy as it is in windows
[16:55] <joaopinto> arrrghhh, it is new, it was implemented on the 8.10 installer
[16:55] <pangloss> !rules | DarkKnight
[16:55] <LjL> !language | Cluber
[16:55] <Cluber> omg
[16:55] <LjL> Cluber: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots period.
[16:55] <Cluber> how sad do you want to get
[16:55] <Cluber> really grow up
[16:55] <guaqua> my mouse buttons seem to not work after updating to intrepid. the problem is that the signals i'm getting from xev cannot be mapped by X even though those same ones it is providing me
[16:55] <arrrghhh> joaopinto, interesting... that's good assuming it deletes the right stuff ha!  is it a selection when you're partitioning?
[16:55] <DarkKnight> wen i watch a movie with any player.....the movie contrasts seems to be too high...this is the same case with all videos...it never happened before....suddenly today i saw this change...can anyone help??
[16:56] <joaopinto> Cluber, this is a support channel, please keep it for support
[16:56] <Brucee> arrrghhh i typed 'mailx'but tells me to install something, i want to read the mail, cause every time i log in to server, it tells me that i have new mail
[16:56] <guaqua> does someone have any pointers (no pun intended) for the problem?
[16:56] <bazhang> DarkKnight, turn off compiz
[16:56] <AAQiL> hi LjL what are you doing mode
[16:56] <LjL> AAQiL: typing on irc
[16:56] <joaopinto> arrrghhh, tou just need to set the partition to /, without enabling the set flag
[16:56] <arrrghhh> Brucee, that's in a directory... i think it tells you i don't know.
[16:56] <AAQiL> LjL: what is that mode mode?
[16:56] <DarkKnight> bazhang; how do i turn it off
[16:57] <bazhang> DarkKnight, in appearances visual effects set to none
[16:57] <joaopinto> arrrghhh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbiquityPreserveHome
[16:57] <Roofel> that ubottu is kinda fun xD
[16:57] <heret1c> DarkKnight: try VLC. It has an equaliser.
[16:57] <songbird> I whent to this web page, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WiFi.Docs/Drivers, to see if there was driver for my wifi, but i couldn't find one. Does that mean there is no driver
[16:57] <songbird> ?
[16:57] <bazhang> DarkKnight, also alt f2 metacity --replace
[16:57] <joaopinto> ops, without enabling the format flag :P
[16:57] <OnlyLinuxUbuntu> Roofel: :D
[16:57] <MaT-dg> metbsd: amsn and kopete are 2 programs that have webcam support and can connect to the msn-protocol
[16:57] <DarkKnight> bazhang....ther is no problem 2 my desktop viewing..the problem is only with watching videos...
[16:58] <metbsd> sorry, web conference means webcam and voice chat at the same time
[16:58] <bazhang> DarkKnight, turn off compiz when watching videos, also try a different player
[16:58] <DarkKnight> bazhang...i used several players.....al same fault
[16:59] <Brucevdk> Brucee: to read that mail: cat /var/mail/<yourusername>
[16:59] <bazhang> DarkKnight, what format videos
[16:59] <bazhang> DarkKnight, and what players
[16:59] <DarkKnight> bazhang; .flv....or any other also
[16:59] <MaT-dg> metbsd: you will have to try those for yourself since I never 'needed' to to such a conference
[17:00] <Roofel> People, To make Ubuntu installation(wubi) larger, do i have to make a new virtual disk and then after that move the old over to the new? :P
[17:00] <DarkKnight> bazhang...mplayer, vlc, ....
[17:00] <bazhang> DarkKnight, you downloaded flv?
[17:00] <joaopinto> Roofel, I believe that is answered on the wubi FAQ
[17:00] <Roofel> checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20big%20should%20the%20the%20virtual%20disks%20be?
[17:00] <DarkKnight> ya
[17:00] <bazhang> DarkKnight, those are very low resolution
[17:00] <DarkKnight> bazhang..ya
[17:00] <metbsd> does anyone in life time ever used a microphone and webcam to talk to others throught the internet?
[17:00] <bazhang> DarkKnight, nothing will make those look good
[17:01] <bazhang> DarkKnight, best might be miro
[17:01] <shadobiii> snarf im so screwed... does anyone know how to get nforce drivers working on ubuntu 8.04? i tried practically everything so if someone can help it'd be much appreciated
[17:01] <joaopinto> metbsd, you already go your answer, not need to keep asking, we use other applications like skype
[17:01] <DarkKnight> bazhang....i have .avi also...even these r looking deifferently now....previously they wer working fyn
[17:01] <pangloss> !nv | shadobiii
[17:01] <songbird> I whent to this web page, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WiFi.Docs/Drivers, to see if there was driver for my wifi, but i couldn't find one. Does that mean there is no driver?
[17:01] <grobda24> What is Minimise all windows keypress ? I don't want to use show desktop (ctrl-alt-d) because that does something wierd on my system.
[17:02] <pangloss> songbird: what is your wifi card?
[17:02] <bazhang> DarkKnight, vlc is quite good. what card do you have and drivers
[17:02] <knoppix> arrrghhh, my home dir is 26.8 GB big.. Stuff I'd rather not lose, how to I go to work? If I just put it in a directory with a different name than / the ubuntu installation will leave it alone?
[17:02] <shadobiii> thanks pangloss but it's about the inbuilt network card on my nforce board
[17:02] <Build-A-Bear> for some reason, my new kernels are not showing up in Grub, i dont have anything since *.19
[17:02] <songbird> pangloss, bcm4401-B0 100Base-TX
[17:02] <joaopinto> knoppix, if you just set the partition to not be formated, the /home will not be deleted
[17:02] <DarkKnight> bazhang...no idea
[17:02] <grobda24>  /join #gnome
[17:02] <bazhang> !home | knoppix
[17:03] <arrrghhh> knoppix, evidently there's a new thing with 8.10 where it won't delete your /home even if it's in a separate partition or not.  i've always put mine in a separate partition just because.
[17:03] <joaopinto> knoppix, if your data is really important, you should have backups anyway
[17:03] <bazhang> DarkKnight, then find out
[17:03] <knoppix> yes but that's about three DVDs
[17:03] <pangloss> songbird: you can use the bcm4xxx driver for that with fw-cutter cant you
[17:03] <DarkKnight> bazhang....how do i???
[17:03] <arrrghhh> knoppix, i put the important stuff in the cloud.  adrive.com gives you 50gb.
[17:03] <bazhang> knoppix, if you dont backup then you dont want it
[17:04] <songbird> pangloss, what is fw-cutter?
[17:04] <bazhang> DarkKnight, lspci in terminal (do NOT paste here)
[17:04] <knoppix> but the home dir is encapsuled in the / dir
[17:04] <DIFH-iceroot> songbird: a tool for cutting the firmware from a wifi-driver
[17:04] <pangloss> songbird: fw-cutter is the program to cut the firmware for your card
[17:04] <bazhang> knoppix, you can read that !home link on how to get a separate home
[17:04] <arrrghhh> knoppix, yes, there's a new thing with 8.10 where you can choose to preserve your home.  we were talking about that like 15 mins ago.
[17:05] <arrrghhh> knoppix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbiquityPreserveHome
[17:05] <Lrevo> Hi all
[17:05] <DarkKnight> bazhang; http://paste.ubuntu.com/69683/
[17:05] <pangloss> !hi | Lrevo
[17:05] <songbird> pangloss, what does thar mean "to cut the firmware"?
[17:05] <joaopinto> knoppix, and let me repeat, if you care about your data you should backup, there is a lot others things that can make you lose your data, besides formatting
[17:05] <Lrevo> thanks :)
[17:06] <knoppix> btw, all your prefs from browsers and inboxes from mail clients are all somehow saved into your home dir?
[17:06] <DarkKnight> hi
[17:06] <pangloss> !wifi | songbird
[17:06] <Lrevo> pangloss: can I ask a question?
[17:06] <pangloss> !ask | Lrevo
[17:06] <joaopinto> knoppix, if you run all your apps with a regular user, the data is alls kept on their respective home dir
[17:06] <bazhang> DarkKnight, that looks like integrated intel card
[17:06] <mrudul> We have many computers here and apt-cacher-ng doesn't allow downloading *.tar.gz.gpg files.  Here's a bug report trail: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/apt-cacher/+bug/156070   When can this be fixed in hardy?
[17:06] <bazhang> DarkKnight, what drivers do you have installed for it
[17:06] <shadobiii> nforce lan drivers?
[17:06] <shadobiii> anyone
[17:07] <Lrevo> pangloss: I have Win XP inside of my Ubuntu from long time ago and I've never used it
[17:07] <DarkKnight> bazhang...i m a newbie in linux....any idea how 2 find out
[17:07] <Bupsss> hi, anyone here with a afatech dvb-t?
[17:07] <Lrevo> pangloss: today after upgrading Ubuntu I just wnted to test thatn Windows
[17:07] <joaopinto> mrudul, there is no pointing asking here, you will need to ask to whoever maintains/developer apt-cacher, and btw you should use apt-cacher-ng instead
[17:07] <bazhang> DarkKnight, what version of ubuntu
[17:07] <Lrevo> pangloss: it's too slow and... now I wanna remove it how can I do it?
[17:07] <songbird> ubottu, I been that web page, half the doc doesn't work on my system?
[17:07] <shadobiii> lol
[17:08] <freeatlast> Is it possible to install OPenOffice 3 in Hardy Heron/Gnome desktop ? ?
[17:08] <DarkKnight> bazhang... hardy
[17:08] <bazhang> songbird, she's a bot
[17:08] <pangloss> Lrevo: please type your entire question on one line so i can read it
[17:08] <Lrevo> ok wait
[17:08] <illusion> hi all , how can i install xen in my 8.10-desktop ? i dont find xen kernel in apt-cache pliz help
[17:08] <pangloss> freeatlast: yes, why not?
[17:08] <DarkKnight> freeatlast; yes of course....
[17:09] <bazhang> DarkKnight, did you check in synaptic for what drivers are installed?
[17:09] <svh> hi i just updated to 8.10 and it took out my nvidia drivers so how do i get it back so i can have 3D work again it tells me i have no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[17:09] <freeatlast> pangloss, What is easiest way to go about doing this - still a neub here - sorry ?
[17:09] <pangloss> !nv | svh
[17:09] <knoppix> why is the naming of harddisks so illogical in ubuntu?
[17:09] <shadobiii> lol
[17:10] <pangloss> freeatlast: go to openoffice.org, download the tarball for oo3, compile it from source and install
[17:10] <joaopinto> freeatlast, there is a repository for OO3 packages
[17:10] <joaopinto> pangloss, there is PPA for ooo, there is no need to download/compile
[17:10] <knoppix> shadobiii, lol?
[17:10] <grobda24> How do I minimsie all windows ?
[17:10] <grobda24> minimise*
[17:10] <joaopinto> freeatlast, http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[17:11] <shadobiii> yeah knoppix?
[17:11] <shadobiii> i find them illogical too
[17:11] <knoppix> why did you laugh about my question?
[17:11] <knoppix> ok
[17:11] <Brucevdk> grobda24: CTRL + ALT + D ?
[17:11] <shadobiii> sorry bro please dont take it personally i was laughing at ubuntu.
[17:12] <pangloss> Lrevo: what do you mean windows inside ubuntu? are you using virtual box? xen?
[17:12] <metbsd> why did you laugh at ubuntu?
[17:12] <freeatlast> joaopinto: Can I install this with sudo apt-get install - Do I need to 1st uninstall anything from the older version that is currently installed ? ?
[17:12] <joaopinto> shadobiii / knoppix , non support talk goes to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:12] <r00tintheb0x> Anyone know what this is about?
[17:12] <loller> how can i get the name of my machine ?
[17:12] <r00tintheb0x> [  204.964062] hda-intel: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #0. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj.
[17:12] <r00tintheb0x> Im trying to figure out why my machine keeps turning off.
[17:12] <freeatlast> joapinto: just saw your link - Thank you!
[17:12] <r00tintheb0x> I know its a bug, Im wondering if there's a workaround for it.
[17:12] <BrickHaus> pangloss: are you around? Wanted to chat with you about backports?
[17:12] <Lrevo> pangloss: no virtual
[17:12] <joaopinto> freeatlast, I believe it installs in paralell, please check the link that I have provided
[17:12] <grobda24> Brucee, yes, but that is "show desktop" which is different and does something wierd to my windows on my system.
[17:12] <pangloss> loller: uname -a
[17:13] <pangloss> BrickHaus: hey yea
[17:13] <Lrevo> pangloss: dual boot
[17:13] <DaveCave> 8.04, best DVDmp3 burning software?
[17:13] <joaopinto> !best > DaveCave
[17:13] <pangloss> Lrevo: use gparted and format your windows partition and then expand your ubuntu partition to the size of the whole disk
[17:13] <vixey> is there a bug where ubuntu doesn't wake from sleep?
[17:14] <pangloss> !gparted | Lrevo
[17:14] <Lrevo> pangloss: thanks a lot
[17:14] <DaveCave> !best
[17:14] <DaveCave> ah
[17:14] <Dave_> 8.04, looking for a command called "startproc" .. appears to exist in Fedora/Redhat, need it for a Shoutcast startup script.. no can find via apt-get
[17:14] <freeatlast> joapintinto: It say's it's for Intrepid Ibex - I did not know if it would install ok on Hardy Heron 8.04 ?
[17:14] <joaopinto> vixey, you mean resuming from suspend ? There are know problems with suspend/resume with some hardware, you will need to search on launchpad
[17:15] <vixey> so I guess the best thing is to just make it not go into suspend
[17:15] <joaopinto> freeatlast, oh you are using hardy, I believe the repository provides a section for hardy, it should work, you just need to replace intrepid with hardy on the repository lines
[17:15] <knoppix> what does this command do? find . -depth -print0 | cpio --null --sparse -pvd /new/
[17:15] <joaopinto> vixey, :\
[17:15] <joaopinto> knoppix, it copies files from the current dir to /new
[17:16] <freeatlast> joapinto: Cool - Will give a try - THanks .....
[17:16] <BrickHaus> pangloss: I've enabled the right stuff in package manager to get back ports, was a little unclear on what this installs. Everything or just what I want. Didn't see anything for in the back port packages for my SiS900 card.
[17:16] <linkmaster03> How do I restart ALSA?
[17:16] <knoppix> joaopinto, why no use cp * /new then?
[17:16] <Kolie> Hi I'm having boot time trouble. I used module-assistant to build the latest alsa to fix my audio not working. On reboot /sbin/modprobe abnormally terminates. I assume I have to remove alsa from loading at boot? How do I do that.
[17:16] <DIFH-iceroot> linkmaster03: /etc/init.d/alsa restart i think
[17:17] <joaopinto> knoppix, because cp * does not handle symbolic links
[17:17] <linkmaster03> DIFH-iceroot: bash: /etc/init.d/alsa: No such file or directory
[17:17] <linkmaster03> DIFH-iceroot: nevermind i found it, it's alsa-utils
[17:17] <DIFH-iceroot> linkmaster03: just use tab for something like thart
[17:17] <pangloss> BrickHaus: you dont see the kernel module in there?
[17:18] <shiki9> is there any app in ubuntu that can open microsoft project files ?
[17:18] <linkmaster03> DIFH-iceroot: ahh good tip, didn't know tab worked in bash like that
[17:18] <GodfatherofEire> Hi, Setting up a new computer, but Ubuntu's only starting up in graphics safe mode, how can I bypass this?
[17:18] <linkmaster03> shiki9: microsoft project files?
[17:18] <BrickHaus> pangloss: Oh.. that's what it is. A whole new kernel?
[17:18] <joaopinto> shiki9, don't think so
[17:18] <shiki9> ok
[17:18] <pangloss> BrickHaus: no it should just be a module
[17:18] <knoppix> when you install ubuntu over your old and wrong one does it look at files as /etc/fstab and all or does it just format first then reinstall?
[17:19] <c0re_> !gtk
[17:19] <Redhammer> hi does anybody else have a broken alacarte
[17:19] <gmcinnes> I can't get an external usb drive to mount at boot time even though its in mtab.  mount -a works though.  Any help?
[17:19] <knoppix> joaopinto, do you have any idea?
[17:19] <Redhammer> and even reinstall does not help, my menus have jsut disappeared as I was trying to use it
[17:20] <BrickHaus> pangloss: so just apt-get install <backports-name>?
[17:20] <pangloss> BrickHaus: try it =/
[17:20] <joaopinto> knoppix, no, I already told you a long time a go how to proceed, select your / partition to install, but just make sure the format option is disabled, /home will not be deleted
[17:20] <wos> could anyone tell me how to check if your installation is 64 bit?
[17:20] <Dave_> 8.04, looking for a command called "startproc" .. appears to exist in Fedora/Redhat, need it for a Shoutcast startup script.. no can find via apt-get... Anybody?
[17:20] <joaopinto> wos, uname -a
[17:20] <joaopinto> ops, sorry, uname -m
[17:21] <metbsd> virtualbox doesn't run in windows2k?
[17:21] <DIFH-iceroot> metbsd: ask in #windows2000
[17:21] <Iradieh> I got two commands, that I want to run at boot or login, how do I do that? One is a daemon called bitlbee, I just want to have bitlbee typed in. The other is a screen -d -m command
[17:21] <joaopinto> metbsd, or #vbox, not here
[17:22] <joaopinto> Iradieh, at boot, add them /etc/rc.local
[17:22] <Kolie> Hi I'm having boot time trouble. I used module-assistant to build the latest alsa to fix my audio not working. On reboot /sbin/modprobe abnormally terminates. I assume I have to remove alsa from loading at boot? How do I do that.
[17:22] <GodfatherofEire> Does anybody know of a way to disable Ubuntu starting in safe graphics mode?
[17:22] <Pizarro> Please, can anyone help me with VPN connections??????
[17:22] <joaopinto> Iradieh, please note that they will be run as root
[17:22] <etronik> Hi all, my ubuntu setup  complaining about the 8139cp drivers suggesting to use 8139too driver - how do I change this ?
[17:22] <joaopinto> GodfatherofEire, you don't "disable" graphics mode, what you do is setup the graphical model, try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:22] <Pizarro> PLEASE I really need help on this, I am stuck
[17:23] <pangloss> BrickHaus: can you tell me what output you get from lsmod | grep -i sis900
[17:23] <pangloss> BrickHaus: real quick
[17:23] <stuff_happens> could someone please take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/291271 and see if there is anything else that can be tried? Also how do I get a developer to look at the bug? Thanks
[17:23] <Pizarro> I can't make Ubuntu dersktop to connect trhough VPN to Ubuntu Server, but XP is doing so
[17:23] <Pizarro> HELP
[17:23] <matthias_N> ziroday:  hi, me again , can we continue _
[17:24] <matthias_N> ziroday:  the wireless thing ...
[17:24] <Iradieh> joaopinto: I dont want them to be run as root
[17:24] <roofel> Kinda a newbie question. exactly 15gig. How many MB is that? :)
[17:24] <Iradieh> I got two commands, that I want to run at boot or login, how do I do that? One is a daemon called bitlbee, I just want to have bitlbee typed in. The other is a screen -d -m command. I want the to run as my user and NOT root
[17:24] <etronik> roofel: 15 * 1024 Mb
[17:25] <jrib> Iradieh: bitlbee should get started automatically after you install it through apt
[17:25] <roofel> thanks etronik :)
[17:25] <jrib> !startup > Iradieh
[17:25] <joaopinto> Iradieh, so just use su - username -c "command"
[17:25] <Dave_> Looking for startproc on ubuntu.. Is there a better place to ask than here??
[17:25] <techqbert> I want to connect to my friend via remote desktop (VNC) but he's at his university so we don't have the luxury of portforwarding.  How will I connect to specifically his computer?
[17:25] <etronik> Hi all, my ubuntu 8.10 setup  complaining about the 8139cp drivers suggesting to use 8139too driver - how and here do I change this ?
[17:25] <Pizarro> OK; this is enough, I Moving to DEBIAN, this is a shit
[17:26] <pangloss> !rules | Pizarro
[17:26] <knoppix> joaopinto, with that one very complicated command for copying into the new dir are all the links to your browserprefs and mailclientinboxes preserved?
[17:26] <Iradieh> jrib: it doesnt
[17:26] <joaopinto> techman224, you can do a reverse connection, you run the client on listener mode, and he will run the server connecting to you...
[17:26] <Iradieh> jrib: thats stupid please dont do that
[17:26] <bazhang> Pizarro, no cursing
[17:26] <Iradieh> jrib: READ WHAT I WROTE
[17:26] <Iradieh> joaopinto: where?
[17:26] <knoppix> who cursed?
[17:26] <BrickHaus> pangloss: On the backports doc here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports it says,  "Installing a single package" A list of packages in Backports can be found at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and then goto Intrepid here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid-backports/ ... but I don't see a package the corresponds to eth drivers?
[17:26] <jrib> Iradieh: good luck with your issue
[17:26] <Iradieh> jrib: I dont even have gnome
[17:26] <roofel> When im gonna make a new virtual disk in wubi to replace the first (had 5gig first but gonna change it to 15gig) can i use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20do%20I%20resize%20the%20virtual%20disks? for that?
[17:26] <joaopinto> knoppix, if you don't have a clear understand of the commands you are executing, you are endangering your copy
[17:27] <roofel> ubuntu*
[17:27] <techqbert> joaopinto: i've heard of that.  hrm.
[17:27] <joaopinto> knoppix, if you already have an installation, why not just upgrade with the update-manager ?
[17:27] <knoppix> joaopinto I did that now I can't get into it anymore
[17:27] <Pizarro> What can I do? My Ubuntu is not functional, I can't worki with it because the VPN connection to my office is being rfused somhow..
[17:28] <knoppix> joaopinto, many have adviced me to do a clean install
[17:28] <BrickHaus> pangloss: I'm pretty sure I know what the problem is. But here's the lsmod output. First entry is ... sis900   27904  0 ... second entry is.... mii   13440  1 sis900
[17:28] <matthias_N> ziroday:  have time
[17:28] <joaopinto> knoppix, what is your problem logging in ?
[17:28] <knoppix> yes logging it, it hangs at the second entry of the big list at the ubuntu startup screen
[17:28] <GodfatherofEire> Thanks, joaopinto, that did the trick.
[17:28] <pangloss> BrickHaus: I found this, looks exactly like your problem https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/6138
[17:28] <Kolie> Hi I'm having boot time trouble. I used module-assistant to build the latest alsa to fix my audio not working. On reboot /sbin/modprobe abnormally terminates. I assume I have to remove alsa from loading at boot? How do I do that.
[17:28] <etronik> brb
[17:28] <oOarthurOo> I need a good, very simple how to on using ssh. I don't even know what a host is, or how to set one up.
[17:29] <BrickHaus> pangloss: k.. let me take a look.
[17:29] <joaopinto> knoppix, you mean, it does not start the graphical login manager ?
[17:29] <knoppix> no
[17:29] <knoppix> it doesn't
[17:29] <joaopinto> knoppix, does it present any error ?
[17:29] <Bodsda> server troubles today or does my internet suck?
[17:29] <Bodsda> on forums
[17:29] <AlanBShepard70> Is there a more realistic voice(?) that can be used with espeak or a package better than espeak for text to speech? I'm writing a program and want to make use of TTS but espeak out of the box doesn't sound that great. What are my options?
[17:29] <pangloss> oOarthurOo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[17:29] <matthias_N> anyone that can help me getting my bcm4328 ti work ?
[17:29] <knoppix> joaopinto it just seems to hang
[17:30] <cevarz> wew
[17:30] <south_korea> abc
[17:30] <pmjdebruijn> Is anybody else having issues with user-switching? I can switch to another user just fine, switching back to my original user however, is a problem, my screen turns black. When it's black I can't get anything back... It just stays black, Ctrl+Alt+F1-F12 don't work, so I don't even have a terminal to get to... Ctrl+Alt+Del does seem to work, the system then does a normal (clean) reboot...
[17:30] <joaopinto> knoppix, does the livecd works fine ?
[17:30] <south_korea> abc
[17:30] <joaopinto> pmjdebruijn, I have the same problem, there is already a bug reported about it
[17:30] <pangloss> wifi | matthias_N
[17:30] <knoppix> the live CD does work fine
[17:30] <pangloss> !wifi | matthias_N
[17:30] <bazhang> south_korea, do you have a support question?
[17:30] <south_korea> why ?
[17:30] <Iradieh> I got two commands, that I want to run at boot or login, how do I do that? One is a daemon called bitlbee, I just want to have bitlbee typed in. The other is a screen -d -m command. I want the to run as my user and NOT root
[17:30] <pmjdebruijn> joaopinto: I couldn't find it, do you have a bug number for me?
[17:30] <south_korea> can i read (?)
[17:31] <south_korea> just correcting some informations about linux
[17:31] <pangloss> Iradieh: add them to your sessions
[17:31] <Pizarro> HELP
[17:31] <Iradieh> pangloss: I DONT GOT X
[17:31] <etronik> back
[17:31] <joaopinto> pmjdebruijn, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fast-user-switch-applet/+bug/291094
[17:31] <pmjdebruijn> joaopinto: thankyou!
[17:31] <thethrasher> Is there a GUI Samba that i don't have to conf with root?
[17:31] <pangloss> Iradieh: then you probably have to add them to rc.d
[17:31] <matthias_N> pangloss:  yes wifi, what does blacklist means ?, i found a page about somebody installing the driver , mention blacklist ....
[17:32] <Pizarro> H E L P
[17:32] <Iradieh> pangloss: HOOOOW DO IIIIIIIII DOOOOOOOOTHAT
[17:32] <Iradieh> jesus H christ
[17:32] <cevarz> anyone know the requirement to user beryl?
[17:32] <joaopinto> Iradieh, the proper file for system wide startup is /etc/rc.lcoal
[17:32] <Iradieh> everyone keep telling me to add to rc
[17:32] <Iradieh> but now how
[17:32] <cevarz> use*
[17:32] <FloodBot2> Iradieh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <joaopinto> Iradieh, please stop ! repeating will not get you better help
[17:32] <pangloss> matthias_N: black list tells your kernel not to load certain modules
[17:32] <scales11> hey all i have an eee 901 and a custom kernel for it.  how do i prevent the kernel from automatically getting updated when i do apt-get upgrade?
[17:32] <bazhang> Iradieh, that wont get you answered quicker
[17:33] <Pizarro> S   O   S
[17:33] <titon> hey how do u add this to the rightclick menu: unrar p -inul %f | mplayer -
[17:33] <pangloss> Iradieh: http://www.linux.com/articles/114107
[17:33] <bazhang> !vpn
[17:33] <bazhang> Pizarro, see above
[17:33] <etronik> Ubuntu 8.10 complains about Realtek 8139cp driver (eth), suggests using 8139too, how and where do I change this setting ? TIA !
[17:33] <matthias_N> okey, let me try on that example, i assume that i can use the same driver like in hardy as in 8.10 or am i wrong ...
[17:33] <billybigrigger> titon, make a script and put it in your nautilus scripts
[17:33] <pangloss> matthias_N: driver should be the same
[17:34] <bazhang> Pizarro, also check ubuntuforums instead of asking here every two minutes
[17:34] <titon> ahhh i had it going in xubuntu was so easy to fix through the menus
[17:34] <BrickHaus> pangloss: dmesg shows these two lines that tell me that there's a bug in the sis900 module/driver and I think is why Ubuntu never gives me and actual Eth interface setting. " sis900 0000:03:07.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18" then "0000:03:07.0: No MII transceivers found!" then "0000:03:07.0: Error probing MII device."
[17:34] <matthias_N> pangloss: i will try otherwise i will be back ...
[17:34] <thethrasher> anyone???  A GUI type samba . . . . does it exist?
[17:34] <south_korea> -bazhang- thank you for what you ask me, before i throw the question, i thought you going to ban me out
[17:35] <BrickHaus> pangloss: and when running "lshw -C Network" it shows the siscard as disabled but if you look at the Mac that is assigned you can totally tell that is no regular mac address.
[17:35] <bazhang> south_korea, if you wish to chat please /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:35] <Pizarro> bazhang: the problem I have is that from my Ubuntu Desktop I only can get VPN to work with XP machines, but not with Ubuntu servers, however from those XP mchines it possible to establish VPN conenctions to the Ubuntu server
[17:35] <pangloss> BrickHaus: =/ did you try filing a bug?
[17:35] <bazhang> Pizarro, yes I saw.
[17:35] <qpdb> whats up with this directory? http://pastebin.com/m25124c0a .. how to fix this?
[17:35] <Pizarro> bazhang: summarize: Ubuntu->Ubuntu (not working), Ubnutu->XP (working) XP->Ubuntu (working)
[17:36] <chainoo> #ubuntu-es
[17:36] <pangloss> thethrasher: yes there is, open add/remove programs and type in samba..
[17:36] <BrickHaus> pangloss: I'll read through that post you sent first. Thanks. Was gonna try the back ports thing before filing a bug. But I don't see a package in backports that corresponds to Eth modules?
[17:36] <bdheeman> hf
[17:36] <mikebeecham> hi there...someone suggested that I backup my xorg.conf file.  Should I...and why?
[17:36] <pangloss> BrickHaus: o well, it worked for someone with an atheros card, thought it might work for you
[17:36] <magcius> mikebeecham, you should back it up because it is a vital configuration file that can break your installation
[17:37] <bazhang> Pizarro, yes; please repeat every 10 minutes or so; we have seen your question and if someone knows they will answer--repeating every two minutes will not help. Check ubuntuforums while you wait for an answer here.
[17:37] <pangloss> mikebeecham: in case you bork your x, you can revert to the old xorg.conf
[17:37] <aoupi> what's the launcher thing called that comes up when you hit alt+F2?
[17:37] <RobertTables> hi all, Ive just done a clean ubuntu install on an old server machine, i want to find out whats the best approach to making /var/www writable for my user - should I create a group called www-data and add my user to it or should I just change the www to somewhere in my home dir? any help appreciated..
[17:37] <mikebeecham> pangloss: how would I go about doing that?
[17:37] <BrickHaus> pangloss: Ok.. My I'll look into it. According the backports docs I should be able to install a single pkg. But looking at the ones available here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid-backports/ I don't see any package that pertains to Networking Eth interfaces??
[17:38] <jamewill> i have just upgraded to intrepid and the DEL and arrow keys don't work on my laptop .... can anyone help
[17:38] <pangloss> mikebeecham: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old
[17:38] <jamewill> i vaguely recall using xevent???? to understand xkbd to remap previously to get round this.... does that make sense?
[17:39] <aoupi> RobertTables: I'd make the www root someplace in my home
[17:39] <matthias_N> pangloss:  is it neccesary to blacklist bcm43xx driver in ubuntu 8.10 ?
[17:39] <aoupi> RobertTables: you could also put yourself in some www group and let the www group have write access
[17:39] <jiffe20> alright, I'm still trying to get wireless to work in 8.10
[17:39] <JoeDaMac> Hey, anyone willing to answer a noobs question? =)
[17:39] <jiffe20> it works fine from vista
[17:39] <aoupi> RobertTables: on second thought, the group thing is what I would do :)
[17:39] <bazhang> JoeDaMac, ask away
[17:39] <DIFH-iceroot> JoeDaMac: just aks your question to the whole channel
[17:39] <titon> unrar p -inul %f | mplayer -        can i set this up to work in nautilus-actions?
[17:39] <pw-toxic> hi - switched from windows to linux... but now i cant open my raid1 hard drive (NTFS)..
[17:40] <pangloss> matthias_N: only if you are using ndiswrapper b/c they will conflict. if you are going to use bcm43 then you have to blacklist ndiswrapper
[17:40] <jiffe20> iwlist ap shows all interfaces including wlan0 don't have a list of access points
[17:40] <JoeDaMac> Running on a Mac Mini, connected to my HD LCD TV via HDMI. Starting up from CD, no video. At all.
[17:40] <G-H-3> i jus got on intrepid ibex and when i try to enable my nvidia driver nothing happens, like it shows the progress bar for the download and stopps at 0%
[17:40] <bdheeman> can i build packages for x86_64 arch on an x86 machine, if yes how?
[17:40] <pw-toxic> for each raid1 hard drive, i can see two hard drives in my "computer" explorer in ubuntu.. but i cant open them
[17:40] <matthias_N> pangloss: what is better ndiswrapper or what is the approach ...
[17:40] <jvm_> i thought ubuntu 8.10 came with this new encrypted directory in each home dir, and just updated, and there is none. what to do?
[17:40] <pangloss> matthias_N: idk, ive always use bcm43xx ...
[17:40] <pw-toxic> any suggestions? i need those files...
[17:40] <RobertTables> aoupi, thats what i thought first off.. but ive created a user and group called www-data and i added my user to the group, still cant write to it... any thoughts? I can only write if I hchmod it to 777, which i know is bad - even at 755 it wont work..
[17:41] <JoeDaMac> I do hear a startup-chime like sound after 5 mins or so, but, no video
[17:41] <G-H-3> i jus got on intrepid ibex and when i try to enable my nvidia driver nothing happens, like it shows the progress bar for the download and stopps at 0%
[17:41] <jamewill> anyone got any keyboard mod advice as per my prev question?   (arrow keys not working after upgrade to intrepid)
[17:41] <pangloss> !nv | G-H-3
[17:41] <oOarthurOo> ok, so I'm trying to follow the ssh guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto, and I type ssh localhost, and then I get prompted for a password, but none of the passwords in effect on the local host work. Not the user password. Not the root password.
[17:41] <aoupi> RobertTables: you have to log out and log in for group changes to take effect
[17:41] <oOarthurOo> btw, thanks for the link pangloss
[17:41] <G-H-3> tyvm
[17:41] <matthias_N> pangloss:  see this  and tell me if that is the right way , http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/howto-broadcom-bcm43xx-driver-463002/
[17:41] <pangloss> !keyboard | jamewill
[17:41] <RobertTables> aoupi oh ok thanks
[17:42] <pangloss> oOarthurOo: welcome =)
[17:42] <bdheeman> jamewill: try pressing/toggle Insert key
[17:42] <aoupi> RobertTables: gets me every time :)
[17:42] <Pizarro> My question is, Is #ubuntu-server usefull? I always get there and thousend of people with no answer
[17:42] <etronik> where are eth drivers specified ?
[17:42] <JoeDaMac> I suppose my only problem is I've never used linux, I don't know how to tweak settings, let alone without being able to see anything during ubuntu's boot process
[17:42] <jamewill> pangloss, yep tried that no dice
[17:42] <wanhopige> joaopinto cruises in his pinto now I guess
[17:42] <etronik> where are eth drivers (modules?) specified ...or configured ?
[17:42] <pangloss> matthias_N: looks good to me
[17:42] <jamewill> bdheeman, thanks for suggestion doesn;t work
[17:43] <JoeDaMac> asking me, etronik?
[17:43] <matthias_N> pangloss:  okey let me try it, have to reboot ...
[17:43] <Seven_Six_Two> I just did an overdue update in 8.04 and lost my sound. in fact, I no longer have a sound module at all, where it's always been automatically detected.
[17:43] <etronik> JoeDaMac, well... anybody really... :)
[17:43] <joebodo> i have a dual monitor setup (ATI). I used amdccc to set it up. How can I change the resolution of the second monitor (it's running in some wacky mode)
[17:43] <jamewill> numlock also not locked....
[17:43] <symptom> !truecrypt
[17:43] <pangloss> !ati | joebodo
[17:44] <JoeDaMac> anyone have any ideas about my prob? if you saw it
[17:44] <RobertTables> aoupi, thanks for your help!
[17:44] <pangloss> JoeDaMac: what is your exact problem?
[17:44] <Pizarro> any me? anyone us knows something about VPNs? Or the Ubuntu people don't uses VPNs....??
[17:44] <JoeDaMac> when I try to boot off my ubuntu cd, I get no video, at all
[17:44] <pangloss> !vpn | Pizarro this is all i got
[17:44] <aoupi> RobertTables: you're welcome, good luck with your website :)
[17:44] <re_nero> ciauz
[17:45] <JoeDaMac> I suppose it might say out of range, if it were a monitor
[17:45] <pangloss> JoeDaMac: ubuntu live cd will not detect your display?
[17:45] <JoeDaMac> guess not
[17:45] <Pizarro> Pues voy apañao con eso colega...si cada dia para hacer algo con Ubuntu tengo que pasar por esto..¿Que es loque tiene de bueno?
[17:45] <JoeDaMac> however, I might know why this is happening
[17:45] <pangloss> !es | Pizarro
[17:46] <G-H-3> ive tried installing my video driver via driver manager, its not working
[17:46] <billybigrigger> JoeDaMac, your not getting video cause you dont have nvidia/ati drivers installed when booting from livecd
[17:46] <Pizarro> Ok, moving to XP again...bye bye
[17:46] <billybigrigger> JoeDaMac, unless your onboard video supports hdmi out
[17:46] <bullgard4> 'man netstat' says that is prints network connections. I am connected to the Internet via a LAN and a ADSL connection. How can I print my ADSL network connection using netstat?
[17:46] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient Pizarro
[17:46] <bazhang> oops
[17:47] <JoeDaMac> my card is a built in intel card
[17:47] <JoeDaMac> GMA 950 is the model
[17:47] <billybigrigger> JoeDaMac, so your onboard intel card has an hdmi out?
[17:47] <JoeDaMac> yep
[17:47] <JoeDaMac> only thing it has
[17:47] <magcius> Stupid vBulletin
[17:47] <joebodo> if i running ati restricted driver - does that automatically mean that it's in accelerated mode ?
[17:47] <step21_> billybigrigger: mine has too
[17:47] <linkmaster03> magcius: agreed
[17:47] <JoeDaMac> however
[17:47] <metbsd> joebodo, no
[17:47] <JoeDaMac> I did fudge around with my resolutions
[17:48] <JoeDaMac> to comphensate for overscan
[17:48] <JoeDaMac> so my current resolution is a custom one
[17:48] <magcius> linkmaster03, I don't think it's vBulletin though... MySQL has been to blame for a lot of setups,
[17:48] <Kolie> Hello. where would I start to look to fix a /sbin/modprobe abornaml exit issue? Is it a sriver list?  I know I'll potentially have to reisntall the bootloader from ubuntu livecd, no biggie. However, XP demands that I delete a partition, on a completely seperate HDD (!) before it will allow me to install it. So I have a nice blank 80GB HDD ready for XP, but now its demanding I delete another partition which is an 'unrecognised fomat' (ext3 I imagine). Is there any way to get around this? would unplugging all HDDs
[17:48] <jobe> except the blank one intended for XP and then trying again work? If I did that, when I plugged the others back in, would ubuntu boot up OK without any further ado?
[17:48] <metbsd> all my ex-gf got married
[17:49] <metbsd> how sad
[17:49] <linkmaster03> jobe: that's a windows issue of which you would not find help for here
[17:49] <roofel> Got a question regarding .bin files
[17:49] <bazhang> metbsd, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[17:49] <pangloss> !ask | roofel
[17:49] <Kolie> does no one here know what the issue is?
[17:50] <dwater> i've got a boot problem,i've got an old ibm laptop,but it has got acpi problem
[17:50] <spatman> Some one That plays World of warcraft here under Wine and have a Extrem FPS drop since last Patch?
[17:50] <dwater> and i can't disable it
[17:50] <jobe> linkmaster03: where would you recommend that I ask?
[17:50] <matthias_N> pangloss:  can you explain me what action 4 means in http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/howto-broadcom-bcm43xx-driver-463002/ and what line to change
[17:50] <magcius> spatman, ask at #wine
[17:50] <RenzoreK> How do I add Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex if I have Kubuntu Intrepid install already?
[17:50] <billybigrigger> JoeDaMac, sorry in between games of gears 2 here haha
[17:50] <titon> unrar p -inul %f | mplayer -        can i set this up to work in nautilus-actions?
[17:50] <roofel> Downloaded wubi-add-addv-virtual-disk :P Its downloaded in .bin but how do i extract it so i can use terminal to execute it? :)
[17:51] <roofel> from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20do%20I%20resize%20the%20virtual%20disks?*
[17:51] <bazhang> RenzoreK, install ubuntu-desktop
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> jobe: install xp on the blank drive then add windows to grub as the drives will both be bootable but the bios will still be marked to boot from the linux drive
[17:51] <spatman> Magcius: Is ther any IRC for Wine?
[17:51] <RenzoreK> bazhang: Thanks
[17:51] <linkmaster03> jobe: #windows
[17:51] <magcius> spatman, #wine on freenode
[17:51] <djhash> hey.. is there a way to load gdm on lets say.. "ctrl+clt+f7" (the normal).. and then load another one on "ctrl+alt+f6" (for example).. and have the F6 auto login a user while the other (F7) be a normal login screen where you choose your sessions etc...
[17:51] <magcius> spatman, #winehq on freenode
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> spatman: #winehq
[17:51] <bazhang> spatman, #winehq
[17:51] <roofel> xD
[17:51] <oOarthurOo> ok, so "ssh local host" works. Now how do I get another machine to connect?
[17:51] <jobe> actionparsnip: so disconnect all others before installing XP right?
[17:51] <magcius> oOarthurOo, inside or outside the local network?
[17:52] <pangloss> matthias_N: down load the b43 drivers http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[17:52] <oOarthurOo> magicus inside
[17:52] <debCarlos> hi
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> jobe: no need, the empty space will be seen by the installer
[17:52] <jobe> debCarlos: hi
[17:52] <darkteckno> mj,n
[17:52] <oOarthurOo> magcius: inside
[17:52] <magcius> oOarthurOo, get your internal IP address and ssh to it
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> magcius: ssh user@sshhostname
[17:52] <debCarlos> i want to know if there is any problem in the new 8.10 that can result in hw failure (hardware)
[17:52] <djhash> !notes
[17:52] <JoeDaMac> so, to sum up, running on a macmini, hdmi out, booting into ubuntu off cd, won't display any video. I had previously setup some funky resolutions so it would fill my HDTV when I set to overscan. Had a few problems with that initially, but I don't have any resolutions configured that don't work under osx.
[17:52] <magcius> oOarthurOo, ssh ipaddress
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> debCarlos: no not really
[17:52] <bullgard4> 'man netstat' says that is prints network connections. I am connected to the Internet via a LAN and a ADSL connection. How can I print my ADSL network connection using netstat?
[17:52] <gigabit_> Hey everyone, when using apt is there a way to get information about a certain package?
[17:52] <magcius> oOarthurOo, it will ask for a user and password
[17:53] <matthias_N> pangloss: the file contains alias pci: .... ndiswrapper in severla lines like repeating itself...
[17:53] <magcius> gigabit_, what kind of info you looking for?
[17:53] <jobe> actionparsnip: but XP wont let me install it without making space on the ubuntu HDD so it can install 'some startup files'. How do let me install XP without damaging ubuntu?
[17:53] <magcius> gigabit_, description?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> oOarthurOo: ssh user@servername
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> jobe: oh do you not have free space?
[17:53] <debCarlos> oh, ok. I already read the release notes, but wasn't entirely sure ^^
[17:53] <jobe> actionparsnip: not on the ubuntu HDD, its full of linux partitions
[17:53] <gigabit_> yeah like i was just wondering if there was an apt command to like get information about a certain package after using apt-cache search
[17:53] <oOarthurOo> magcius: holy cra....stuff. I can't believe it works.
[17:54] <gigabit_> just any general package
[17:54] <JoeDaMac> so, is there someway I can blindy type some command to make ubuntu switch resolutions?
[17:54] <magcius> oOarthurOo, why should it not?
[17:54] <JoeDaMac> during startup?
[17:54] <oorjha> OK, I installed virtual manager from tasksel, Now how do I use it to install an OS in VM ?
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> jobe: if you have any drives with any space, XP will go on there fine, otherwise i'd backup data and resize partitions from livecd with gparted
[17:54] <anubis> which music player do you guys prefer?
[17:54] <Svenstar0> What the, the forums are down again :/
[17:54] <oOarthurOo> magcius: Because I've been working on this for three days
[17:54] <magcius> oOarthurOo, everything is networked underneath on *nix even on a local machine
[17:54] <oorjha> virtual machine **
[17:54] <metbsd> ttplayer
[17:54] <matthias_N> pangloss:  i have 4328 for wireless b,g,n
[17:54] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi there, I am about to order an edimax wifi card. Every user says it works well, but now I saw https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/284005
[17:54] <magcius> Svenstar0, yes.
[17:54] <roofel> When I got a program that is supposed to be executed from Terminal but its in .bin file, how do I make it executable in Terminal? Do I have to use CHMOD to make it into a .exe file? :)
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> oorjha: run the app and create a new virtual machine, mount the cd/iso to install from and away you go
[17:55] <Le-Chuck_ITA> do some of you own an edimax card and can confirm it works in hardy?
[17:55] <oOarthurOo> magcius: why did I have to create the key pair if I can just login like this?
[17:55] <Svenstar0> magcius, how come theyre down so often lately?
[17:55] <darkteckno> fuck
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> roofel: chmod +x <file>
[17:55] <hateball> roofel♂ chmod +x <file>
[17:55] <jobe> actionparsnip: hmm, so if I make just a small ntfs partition on that ubuntu HDD then you think XP will let me install its boot files there?
[17:55] <oOarthurOo> magcius: I've been trying to figure out how to install the public key I created.
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy | darkteckno
[17:55] <magcius> Svenstar0, blame MySQL
[17:55] <bazhang> darkteckno, no cursing
[17:55] <roofel> but does it have to be a .exe file to be used in terminal? :)
[17:55] <darkteckno> sorry
[17:55] <Svenstar0> magcius, I WILL! Did the DB just got nuked or somethingß
[17:55] <magcius> roofel, umm.... EXE?
[17:55] <jobe> actionparsnip: like a 100mb partition
[17:55] <roofel> Hehe :P True xD
[17:55] <magcius> roofel, EXE is Windows...
[17:56] <Svenstar0> magcius, actually there ARE some precompiled linux binaries that are .exe. At least I've seen some.
[17:56] <magcius> roofel, as long as the executable flag is set and there's either a executable header or a shebang line...
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> jobe: you make unallocated space and windows will use it. if you have any space xp will use it, if you use SATA you will need to install the sata drivers via floppy disk
[17:56] <oorjha> ActionParsnip, Do I need to install qemu ?
[17:56] <JoeDaMac> Is there some way I can, without being able to see anything onscreen, switch to a different resolution while Ubuntu is booting?
[17:56] <roofel> Ill try it then
[17:56] <Le-Chuck_ITA> guys I am chatting from windows because my iwl3945 does not work where I am now under ubuntu, please help me getting out of this hell and advice a good wifi usb dongle for linux :)
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> oorjha: if you need it, yes
[17:56] <magcius> Svenstar0, EXE is the Portable Executable format. It must be running WINE then.
[17:57] <magcius> u hoh
[17:57] <titon> unrar p -inul %d/%f | mplayer -        shouldnt that work in gnome acctions?
[17:57] <Svenstar0> magcius, not necessarily. There are some applications that are linux and windows binary at once but they carry a .exe extension. No Wine going on. Not being a smartass, just saying :)
[17:57] <oorjha> ActionParsnip, Is there a GUI or a command line for creating a virtual machine ?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> Le-Chuck_ITA: its a big buggy in intrepid
[17:58] <magcius> Svenstar0, there is no such thing as a Linux and Windows binary in one...
[17:58] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ActionParsnip: what, the edimax?
[17:58] <Kolie> Alright fixed my problem. I removed all the /update/alsa lines for modules.dep
[17:58] <magcius> Svenstar0, ELF format vs PE format
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> oorjha: ive not used qemu, ive used virtual box and vmware
[17:58] <jobe> actionparsnip: yes I am using sata. bah. I think i'll have to disconnect the others like i originally suggested. Just to clarify - I have two HDDs of relevance here, one ubuntu, one blank awaiting XP. XP wont let me install on the blank one until I make space on the Ubuntu one for 'startup files'. So you are saying that If I just leave some unallocated space on the ubuntu HDD, say, between partitions, then XP will be happy enough to install its startup files
[17:58] <jobe> there?
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> magcius: if its a driver it can be extracted with cabextract ;)
[17:58] <Svenstar0> magcius, magic then :)
[17:58] <darkteckno> any irc help site you can recommend?
[17:59] <magcius> darkteckno, always google questions first
[17:59] <baastrup> hey there, im trying to make a ssh vpn connection with the ssh -w 0:0 but it dos't make the tun0 devices, can anyone help?
[17:59] <vadim> Hello, I've been having some trouble with compiz and in #compiz-fusion they suggested trying intrepid-proposed. That seems to have broken things even worse, so I removed the source. Any way I can rollback to the stable versions of everything that got upgraded to a -proposed version?
[17:59] <oorjha> ActionParsnip, Yeah, even I have used VMware and virtualbox. Just that tasksel had a virtual machine I thought I would give it a shot
[17:59] <magcius> vadim, what distro are you running currently?
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> jobe: xp doesnt have sata drivers so they need providing at install and ONLY via floppy, you can use software to put the sata driver onto the xp cd so a FDD is not needed
[17:59] <vadim> magcius: intrepid
[17:59] <darkteckno> with no desk top
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> oorjha: ive not used it man, sorry.
[18:00] <djhash> hey.. is there a way to load gdm on lets say.. "ctrl+clt+f7" (the normal).. and then load another one on "ctrl+alt+f6" (for example).. and have the F6 auto login a user while the other (F7) be a normal login screen where you choose your sessions etc...
[18:00] <magcius> vadim, you should be able to remove the proposed version
[18:00] <magcius> vadim, you can also consider removing compiz completely
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> oorjha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[18:00] <gmcinnes> anyone konw how to get a usb drive to mount automatically at boot?
[18:00] <aoupi> djhash: yes it's possible, sorry I don't know more than that :p
[18:00] <gmcinnes> doesn't seem to work in FF
[18:00] <vadim> magcius: well, adding proposed upgraded about 20 packages maybe. Can I do something to leave everything at the version it was before?
[18:00] <jobe> actionparsnip: yes the drivers are preloaded, along with alot of other stuff. the version of XP im using is a reputable souped up version. I dont think that missing sata drivers are the issue
[18:00] <JoeDaMac> Since while Ubuntu is booting, and if I'm unable to see any video, is there someway I can blindly tell it to try a different resolution?
[18:00] <magcius> djhash, you can... but it requires more than one x server running
[18:00] <etronik> man oh man, despite the evolutions... this remains as too much trouble to get working system,,,
[18:01] <timreichhart> hey guys
[18:01] <aoupi> djhash: try searching for multiple x servers ubuntu
[18:01] <vadim> magcius: just removing proposed doesn't have any effect, dist-upgrade doesn't offer installing anything
[18:01] <jobe> timreichhart: hi
[18:01] <timreichhart> is anybody in here running a fax server
[18:01] <magcius> vadim, autoremove all packages not needed anymore?
[18:01] <djhash> magicus: aoupi: ok.. multiple x-servers.. thanks guys
[18:01] <magcius> djak_, it's not going to be easy...
[18:02] <magcius> whoops
[18:02] <RobertTables> is it posssible to get a hardy machine to be part of a windows workgroup?
[18:02] <etronik> timreichhart, I did once...
[18:02] <magcius> djhash, it's not going to be easy
[18:02] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ActionParsnip: do you own an edimax card? do you expect bugs to be solved soon, how does the situation look like to you? In any case does it work in hardy'
[18:02] <magcius> RobertTables, a SAMBA server works wonders
[18:02] <oorjha> ActionParsnip, Oh no, I do not want to all those stuff.. I stick to VirtualBox.. Thanks anyway
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Le-Chuck_ITA: not sure, hunt round, you can always use ndiswrapper til it gets sorted
[18:02] <vadim> magcius: what unneeded packages? It upgraded the nvidia driver for instance, it's needed. What I want is to get every package to the point before I upgraded it to a proposed version
[18:02] <zacharym> RobertTables: if you're using GNOME and have samba installed it's easy to setup shares
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> oorjha: its not hard from what ive read
[18:03] <pepperjack> anyone else seeing really bad stutter in video playback in hardy and above?  im seeing in mplayer using xv and vlc. i810 driver
[18:03] <JoeDaMac> so, I see I can do $ xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768 to change resolutions from the command line, but, what do I do to get a command prompt while ubuntu is booting/has booted?
[18:03] <oorjha> ActionParsnip, OK will give a try
[18:03] <JoeDaMac> keep In mind i can't see anything
[18:03] <magcius> vadim, upgrading just installs a different package
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> zacharym: its easy in any system with /etc/samba/smb.conf
[18:03] <RobertTables> zacharym, will this enable me to refer to the ubuntu box as its own hostname?
[18:03] <JoeDaMac> esc? `?
[18:03] <jobe> actionparsnip: if i remove all the other drives then do you think XP will install ok? I mean, It cant demand to make space on drives that dont exist, presumably it will just install its stinking boot records onto its own HDD, which will then be ignored as the bios has another 1st boot device set (the HDDS which I will replace after XP has installed)
[18:03] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ActionParsnip: ok but why do you say I can use ndiswrapper, do you own one? E.g. I am not able to use ndiswrapper for my iwl3945 (or else I would be doing that now, but it just does not work so I don't trust ndiswrapper too much!)
[18:03] <RobertTables> instead of just ip?
[18:03] <vadim> magcius: Or, to put it another way, I'm looking for an operation that will install whatever's current in the package sources, even if the system has something newer
[18:03] <zacharym> ActionParsnip: I know, I just figured most would rather use the GNOME setup utils
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> jobe: yeah should be fine
[18:03] <zacharym> ActionParsnip: since doing anything different would make using Ubuntu moot
[18:04] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Guys do you have an advice different from edimax for a wifi usb dongle for my beloved ubuntu?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> zacharym: ive shown tonnes of users my smb.conf and they switched to editting the smb.conf file
[18:04] <jobe> actionparsnip: ok, ill give it a go. thanks a lot :)
[18:04] <zamba> where can i find the cookies.txt file in firefox?
[18:04] <miaow-> hi. how do i install kernel includes?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Le-Chuck_ITA: it doesnt matter of the brand, only whats under the hood
[18:04] <magcius> vadim, is intreprid-proposed in the ubuntu repositories?
[18:04] <magcius> vadim, or is it third-party
[18:04] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ActionParsnip: that's a rt2something
[18:04] <vadim> magcius: it is
[18:04] <Oprtz> ActionParsnip:  can i get ur smb,conf file please?
[18:05] <vadim> magcius: in repositories I mean
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Le-Chuck_ITA: run lsusb and it will identify itself. the brand and model means very little in linux, only the chip thats inside
[18:05] <magcius> vadim, then all the packages you installed are in the ubuntu respositories.
[18:05] <timreichhart> if anybody setup a fax server what hardware did you guys use
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Oprtz: sure
[18:05] <n1ob> Hi i just installed ssh and apache and im trying to access from other machine, but it just wont reach...what can be happening?
[18:05] <magcius> vadim, removing proposed and autoremove should get rid of stuff not needed anymore
[18:05] <jrib> zamba: firefox doesn't use cookie.txt anymore.  It uses sqlite
[18:05] <Oprtz> ActionParsnip:  thanks dude :)
[18:05] <matthias_N> pangloss:  sone help please
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Oprtz: http://pastebin.com/f14b4c82e
[18:05] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ActionParsnip: I still have to buy it :) Or else i would know if it works :P but thanks
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Oprtz: just look at the bottom 20 lines or so
[18:06] <zamba> jrib: i want to use firefox cookies store with wget.. how can i do that, then?
[18:06] <magcius> vadim, you should be able to force old versions of packages.
[18:06] <Oprtz> ActionParsnip:  okie :)
[18:06] <JoeDaMac> so, while ubuntu is booting, and my monitor isn't displaying anything so I'm working blind, how would I get to the command prompt to enter a command such as... $ xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768 to change resolutions?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Oprtz: the bracketed names are the share name, the rest is self explanatory
[18:06] <jrib> zamba: google export-firefox-cookies.py
[18:06] <vadim> magcius: I don't think I'm explaining well. Situation. I have the normal source. I get package 1.0. I add proposed, which has 1.1. Upgrade installs it. It doesn't work, I remove proposed. I'm looking for a command that will automatically get rid of whatever proposed added, returning to the versions that can be currently downloaded from the remaining package sources
[18:06] <magcius> zamba, figure out the cookies with Firebug and send them as the cookie headers
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> JoeDaMac: boot to root console and fix from there
[18:07] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ActionParsnip: I left by accident dunno if you replied, sorry
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Oprtz: see how childishly simple it is....
[18:07] <dataflow> does ifup tell you why it failed to bring up an interface?
[18:07] <magcius> vadim, I don't think you can automatically determine what you installed/upgraded
[18:07] <n1ob> Hi i just installed ssh and apache and im trying to access from other machine, but it just wont reach...what can be happening?
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> dataflow: should give you an output to terminal
[18:07] <matthias_N> pangloss:  i did the firmware installation but what follows ...
[18:07] <gustavo> hello, I`m on intrepid, and Rhythmbox uses 16% of CPU on a Core Duo when listening to mp3. I`ve disabled pulseaudio and the problem continues. what should I do?
[18:07] <magcius> vadim, you can look up what version of packages are required, but you can't tell which ones you had before or what you needed to change
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> n1ob: can you ping the systems name and ip address?
[18:07] <vadim> magcius: Why not? Can't it tell that I currently have 1.1 while 1.0 is the latest in the package sources?
[18:08] <Oprtz> ActionParsnip:  i see
[18:08] <dataflow> ActionParsnip, It did. it told me it didn't exist...but i see my card w/ lspci
[18:08] <magcius> vadim, you can say "get 1.0" but you may not have had 1.0 before, you may have had 1.0.1
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> dataflow: have you configured any sort of firewalling?
[18:08] <Dominik2> how can I resize my swap partition?
[18:08] <matthias_N> pangloss:  i am following the page you gave me but do not know exaclty what i am doing
[18:08] <magcius> vadim, if you know what versions you had before you can do "sudo apt-get install package=1.0"
[18:08] <vadim> magcius: nono, I don't care what there was before, I want to downgrade to the latest version available in sources
[18:08] <w0ls0n> whats the off topic channel?
[18:08] <magcius> vadim, you HAVE the latest in the repository if proposed installed it
[18:08] <vadim> magcius: yes, but I removed proposed now
[18:09] <jrib> !ot | w0ls0n
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Oprtz: the gui is clumsy, plus if you master that file (not hard), you can ssh in, add another entry and restart samba to get another share, all remotely
[18:09] <magcius> vadim, are you sure it didn't add anymore package repositories?
[18:09] <vadim> magcius: no
[18:09] <dataflow> ActionParsnip, no FW on this machine. ifup gives me this. There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.ath0.pid with pid 0
[18:09] <dataflow> and then tells me it doesnt exist
[18:09] <magcius> vadim, and you had no update messages before you installed proposed?
[18:09] <matthias_N> ziroday:  there ???
[18:09] <vadim> magcius: no, it was up to date
[18:09] <dataflow> i think it's a complication with my driver.
[18:09] <magcius> vadim, then it installed separate packages
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> dataflow: you could check system logs
[18:10] <magcius> vadim, uninstall those
[18:10] <miaow-> where do i get the kernel source?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> !source
[18:10] <magcius> miaow-, git.kernel.org?
[18:10] <znh> on the internet miaow-
[18:10] <jrib> !kernel > miaow-
[18:10] <dataflow> ActionParsnip, should i check auth.log? or messages?
[18:10] <dataflow> both...
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> dataflow: everything you can find
[18:11] <dataflow> ok, brb
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> dataflow: you could reload its module then check dmesg
[18:11] <ljuwaidah> hi
[18:11] <ljuwaidah> uh
[18:11] <asjdfkl> when I use ubuntu 8.10 in virtual drive, I can't use it to preview before I install
[18:12] <magcius> asjdfkl, huh?
[18:12] <asjdfkl> I mounted it
[18:12] <magcius> asjdfkl, what do you mean?
[18:12] <ljuwaidah> how do i install bittorrent?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> asjdfkl: virtual drive?
[18:12] <asjdfkl> and It asked me to install
[18:12] <ljuwaidah> well
[18:12] <asjdfkl> like VMware
[18:12] <ljuwaidah> i thought  i installed it but...
[18:12] <djhash> asjdfkl:  you need a virtual machine
[18:12] <slowlearner> asjdfkl if you can boot to your virtual drive
[18:12] <asjdfkl> yeah
[18:12] <ljuwaidah> some really simple app got installed :/
[18:12] <asjdfkl> ti have it
[18:12] <magcius> asjdfkl, you don't mount in VMWare
[18:12] <dataflow> how do i find a list of the mods to reload it? or do i rm it myself? forgive my novice. this piticular wifi card is kinda crazy. seems like everyone else fixed it with madwifi.
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> ljuwaidah: what did you install and how?
[18:12] <asjdfkl> I use virtual box
[18:12] <magcius> ljuwaidah, what client do you want?
[18:13] <ljuwaidah> sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[18:13] <magcius> ljuwaidah, I use deluge
[18:13] <vadim> magcius: well I don't know which, is there a log? I rebooted since then
[18:13] <mon^rch> ljuwaidah: transmission is the default bittorrent in ubuntu
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> dataflow: cat /etc/modules
[18:13] <ljuwaidah> magcius: you know, bittorrent, the original one?
[18:13] <joebodo> is there a way to tell if my ati is running in accelerated mode ?
[18:13] <asjdfkl> so, how come I can't install it
[18:13] <ljuwaidah> deluge?
[18:13] <magcius> ljuwaidah, that's windows only. don't use it.
[18:13] <ljuwaidah> i'll give it a shot
[18:13] <dataflow> and how do i reload a module?
[18:13] <ljuwaidah> oh!
[18:13] <asjdfkl> it saids it can't detect harddrive
[18:13] <ljuwaidah> which one was i using then? :/
[18:13] <Shovi> Does the picture editor in Ubuntu compare to photoshop????
[18:13] <dataflow> :!/cat /etc/modules
[18:13] <dataflow> er
[18:13] <ljuwaidah> anyways, i'll give deluge a shot
[18:13] <matthias_N> anybody out there that knows where i can get an driver for bcm4328
[18:13] <magcius> joebodo: glxinfo | head -5
[18:14] <etronik> Shovi, you mean Gimp ?
[18:14] <ljuwaidah> I'm into experimenting\
[18:14] <djhash> asjdfkl: did yo make a virtual hard drive?
[18:14] <Shovi> etronik, its been a while since i used ubuntu, So im not sure.
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> !torrent | ljuwaidah
[18:14] <asjdfkl> yes i did djhash
[18:14] <pedro__s> Ubuntu doesn't recognize my video device
[18:14] <joebodo> glxinfo | head -5
[18:14] <joebodo> name of display: :0.0
[18:14] <joebodo> display: :0  screen: 0
[18:14] <joebodo> direct rendering: Yes
[18:14] <joebodo> server glx vendor string: SGI
[18:14] <RickZilla> I'd like to put a bigger hard drive on my computer...what's involved with saving all of my data, settings, software, etc... on this computer so I can load it all onto my new hard drive again?
[18:14] <FloodBot2> joebodo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:14] <pedro__s> if I type nvidia-detector, there is nothing
[18:14] <joebodo> server glx version string: 1.2
[18:14] <w0ls0n> install the linux driver for it
[18:14] <pedro__s> by that way, the driver isn't working!
[18:14] <pedro__s> what should I do?
[18:14] <dataflow> it seems that i only have 3 things in /etc/modules
[18:14] <cris> crix69
[18:14] <etronik> Shovi, if it's Gimp it certainly compares to Photoshop for 95% needs
[18:15] <dataflow> fuse, lp, rtc
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | matthias_N
[18:15] <cris> help to convert dmg2iso
[18:15] <asjdfkl> anyone??
[18:15] <joebodo> what am i looking for in the glxinfo ?
[18:15] <Shovi> etronik, Nice, it comes W/ubuntu or sudo get install?
[18:15] <cris> tried already dmg2iso
[18:15] <ljuwaidah> !libbost
[18:15] <ljuwaidah> !libboost
[18:15] <billybigrigger> dataflow, you trying to get a list of loaded modules?
[18:15] <joebodo> does not mention accelerated
[18:15] <billybigrigger> dataflow, lsmod
[18:15] <dataflow> ActionParsnip, do you know what a wifi mod would look like?
[18:15] <dataflow> billybigrigger, sure am
[18:15] <etronik> Shovi, I think it comes in the default install
[18:15] <dataflow> nice command
[18:15] <ljuwaidah> the bot is ignoring me :P
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> asjdfkl: did you create a virtual hard drive to install to?
[18:15] <RickZilla> Shovi:  There is a GIMP channel here on Freenode as well
[18:15] <billybigrigger> joebodo, Direct Rendering: Yes
[18:15] <Shovi> etronik, Cool, thanks for the help
[18:16] <billybigrigger> joebodo, means accelleration is enabled
[18:16] <asjdfkl> actionaparsnip: yes i did
[18:16] <cris> also .jar standalone exec
[18:16] <joebodo> ok - it's set - thx
[18:16] <pedro__s> HEY
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> dataflow: it'll be something similar to the chip it uses
[18:16] <etronik> Shanix, np, glad to help
[18:16] <pedro__s> !nvidia-detector
[18:16] <dataflow> ok
[18:16] <pedro__s> !nvidia
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> dataflow: id check dmesg for it loading the module
[18:16] <asjdfkl> actionparsnip: I was in the process of testing it out and it couldn't detect my harddrive...
[18:16] <pedro__s> that BinaryDriverHowo is outdated
[18:16] <joebodo> agreed
[18:16] <wos> is there any particular reason why my title bar sometimes goes blank and has a line across it?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> asjdfkl: what app are you using to install it?
[18:16] <dataflow> checking lsmod. /etc/modules doesnt seem to have anything but the three enteries in it
[18:16] <joebodo> does not help with 8.10
[18:16] <matthias_N> ActionParsnip: yes following an example but does not tells if for ubuntu 8.10 and how to proceed
[18:17] <blue112> You know a place where I can have a python script hosted for free ?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> matthias_N: its the same
[18:17] <n8tuser> dataflow  look in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net/wireless
[18:17] <asjdfkl> actionparsnip:apps? I'm just trying to test out ubuntu live cd
[18:17] <magcius> blue112, huh?
[18:17] <asjdfkl> actionparsnip: no to install anything
[18:17] <dataflow> n8tuser, checking
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> asjdfkl: then reboot with the cd in your drive and tell your bios to boot cd first
[18:17] <magcius> blue112, you want the script to run on the server?
[18:17] <blue112> magcius: Yep.
[18:17] <matthias_N> ActionParsnip:  well i do not get it, i need the .inf file for bcm4328 drivewr
[18:17] <blue112> A socketserver.
[18:17] <asjdfkl> actionparsnip:ohhh ok
[18:18] <asjdfkl> thank you
[18:18] <magcius> blue112, you're going to need a dedicated server or VPS for a socket server.
[18:18] <boogaa> hi
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> matthias_N: yes, get the xp32 or xp64 driver for your card