[21:22] <a-arschi> 	killroy_2	Tidus: so, firstly do you have any idea how to get the linksys to start such that I can scan and connect, and secondly, what
[21:22] <sky`sunset> and everytime i need to ur the person's name
[21:23] <juano__> Ctrl_: pastebin your xorg.conf
[21:23] <robdig_> sky`sunset: with the keyboard
[21:23] <sky`sunset> is there a shortcut?
[21:23] <sauvin> sky`sunset, what irc client are you using?
[21:23] <juano__> Ctrl_: what card model ?
[21:23] <Tupsik> sauvin: " but not usually perceptibly" - can u give more details please?
[21:23] <sky`sunset> i used the old one
[21:23] <Ctrl_> INtel gm956 x3100
[21:23] <sky`sunset> but i updated it just now
[21:23] <sky`sunset> like , u talked to me, and u can put my name b4 ur msg
[21:23] <lu_> i'm having some problems getting my ubuntu machine to browse shares on a windows machine.  can someone help?
[21:23] <Rudd-O> see comment about insanity before
[21:23] <sky`sunset> how can u do that?
[21:23] <sauvin> sky`sunset, what irc client are you using?
[21:23] <killroy_2> !de | a-arschi
[21:23] <ubotu> a-arschi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:23] <Rudd-O> but you should try to move to the ati driver first, see if that works
[21:23] <a-arschi> anux] hat die Verbindung unterbrochen. (Client Quit)
[21:23] <naynay> I had 21GB of work data on an external HDD and it has been deleted by an unwitting family member.....unfortunately, that were haveing a good clean out and removed it from the trash bin aswell
[21:23] <Ctrl_> nothings works with it (compliling new kernel + getting intel drivers + mesa + glx + dri+ everythings i could think about)
[21:23] <sky`sunset> 6.31
[21:24] <Pelo> a-arschi, I beg your pardon ?
[21:24] <joshua__> sky`sunset: Just begoin typ[ing the name and press tab to autoicomplete]
[21:24] <sky`sunset> sauvin 6.31
[21:24] <sauvin> sky`sunset, 6.31 of what?
[21:24] <AllNicksAreTaken> nevermind my last question
[21:24] <Rudd-O> change vesa for ati, see if it starts using the command sudo X :4, then paste us /var/log/Xorg.4.log
[21:24] <a-arschi> had 21GB of work data on an external HDD and it has been deleted by an u
[21:24] <joshua__> sauvin:  What is the best way to mount a harddrive in live mode?
[21:24] <sky`sunset> oh, just like using linux
[21:24] <matttis> which /proc is for the screen reslolution or refresh rate ?
[21:24] <MeeKs> i just got this laptop for my dad, hes very very very computer "retarded" i want some opinions on what version of linux to run on this for him.  http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/as3680.htm
[21:24] <meoblast001> hello, ive been trying to get help from #C++ but they just critisize me, so ill ask here since other Ubuntu users might have experienced this..... i need a way for resources to be copied through the build script?... i checked the internet and cant find anything
[21:24] <sauvin> joshua__, do you know what partition your installed ubuntu is on?
[21:24] <Rudd-O> Ctrl_: you're better off not compiling stuff manually, unless you can build a debian package.  trust me, it is better for your long-term mental health :-D
[21:24] <joshua__> sauvin: I think its hdc1
[21:25] <Rudd-O> ahahaaha! its finishing pulseaudio deb
[21:25] <ComPro> Rudd-O, the vesa driver works. fglrx doesn't.
[21:25] <sauvin> joshua__, it's not likely to be hdc1.
[21:25] <Jock2> Sometimes Ubuntu freezes, such as when trying to run a  particular application in full-screen mode in Wine. I can't move the mouse cursor, and ctrl+alt+del doesn't work. Do I have to restart the computer, or is there another way?
[21:25] <Rudd-O> ComPro: NOT fglrx.  ATI.
[21:25] <adac> if I want that a python script is executed at first when an user shuts down the system...were do i have to put it or how do i solve this?
[21:25] <Ctrl_> Rud , Ubuntu isnt the first linux distro that i use belieave me ;)
[21:25] <joshua__> sauvin:  I have an unconventional partition set-up
[21:25] <Rudd-O> Jock2: control alt del never works on Linux X Window System, but you can try Control Alt BACKSPACE
[21:25] <juano__> ComPro: enabled restricted drivers ?¡
[21:25] <sauvin> joshua__, do you have a /media directory?
[21:25] <Rudd-O> Jock2: the freeze is most likely not a freeze but a windowing system hang
[21:25] <Jock2> Rudd-O: didn't work either :(
[21:26] <AllNicksAreTaken> silly alternate iso is supposed to have LiveCD, but it doesn't. *shrugs*
[21:26] <joshua__> sauvin: Yes but there is nothing listed there
[21:26] <ComPro> juano_: i enabled restricted drivers. that's when it broke.
[21:26] <Jock2> Rudd-O: ok, I see.
[21:26] <Rudd-O> if you have sysrq enabled (I'm not sure if thats the default) you can try the sysrq magic key combo that kills the X server
[21:26] <Rudd-O> lemme fetch you a guide
[21:26] <sauvin> joshua__, try this (in the terminal): mkdir /media/mystuff
[21:26]  * sauvin is going to play merry hell trying to figure out how to mount stuff on a livecd system if that doesn't work
[21:26] <juano__> ComPro: and you install anything before that ?
[21:26] <Rudd-O> http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/08/01/controlling-runaway-processes-on-linux
[21:26] <ComPro> juano_: no, it's a clean install
[21:26] <joshua__> sauvin:  Permisision denied
[21:27] <sauvin> joshua__, try sudo mkdir /media/mystuff
[21:27] <juano__> ComPro: i see.. what video card ?
[21:27] <saruzzo> ciao a tutti
[21:27] <ComPro> juano_: ATI Radeon x1650 PCI Express
[21:27] <juano__> !it
[21:27] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:27] <joshua__> sauvin:  that worked
[21:27] <sauvin> joshua__, try sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /media/mystuff
[21:28] <juano__> ComPro: followed the !ati guide ?
[21:28] <Ashfire908> juano__, grub says it can't mount.
[21:28] <Ctrl_> I guess i am going to remove this stupid distro , i never like debian and i didnt know why i though i would ;)
[21:28] <sauvin> (now, the question I have is: on what partition is the ubuntu livecd mounted?
[21:28] <ComPro> !ati
[21:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:28] <juano__> ComPro: if the restricted one doesnt work, try installing the binary one
[21:28] <Rudd-O> sauvin: use the mount command to figure out
[21:29] <juano__> ComPro: follow that guide
[21:29] <Rudd-O> Ctrl_: I have the same quibbles you have
[21:29] <sauvin> Rudd-O, I'd have to find my freaking livecd and reboot on it :\
[21:29] <RequinB4> can anyone tell me the difference between a drive and a mount
[21:29] <a-arschi> had 21GB of work data on an external HDD and it has been deleted by an u
[21:29] <Rudd-O> sauvin: the livecd is mounted on a fictitious loopback filesystem, not on a real partition
[21:29] <juano__> Ashfire908: u follow the guide in that link ?
[21:29] <Ctrl_> really? prove it
[21:30] <stefg> RequinB4: a drive is raw hardware. when yo have a filesystem on t you can mount it to a directory tree
[21:30] <sauvin> Rudd-O, what would the livecd's device node be?
[21:30] <Jvalldom> dga support? need help
[21:30] <sky`sunset> does this channel allow pm  ?
[21:30] <B-rabbit> does evolution need imap(Internet message access protocol) to work
[21:30] <NET||abuse> hey guys.. is it possible to save a divx that's being streamed by totem-plugin?
[21:30] <Rudd-O> RequinB4: a drive is the physical machine with platters inside.  a volume is a partition with data and format inside the drive.  a mount is a place on your filesystem where the volume shows up.
[21:30] <RequinB4> stefg - ah that makes more sence - just confused people use the two interchangably
[21:30] <RequinB4> Rudd-O
[21:30] <sauvin> sky`sunset, if you can't pm, I suspect it's because your nick isn't registered or you're not identified.
[21:30] <Rudd-O> NET||abuse: honestly dont know, I suggest usinv VLC
[21:30] <stefg> !pm | sky`
[21:30] <ubotu> sky`: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[21:31] <Rudd-O> sauvin: try ls -l /dev/scd0
[21:31] <sky`sunset> but i joined the other server
[21:31] <sky`sunset> i can send pm
[21:31] <NET||abuse> Rudd-O, is there something i can do to use vlc as a plugin instead?
[21:31] <Rudd-O> or whatever your drive is, it might be /dev/hdb or something
[21:31] <chester_martins_> HOW CAN I DELETE A DIRECTORY BY COMAND LINE?
[21:31] <sauvin> Rudd-O, so, joshua__ should be OK with this.
[21:31] <Ashfire908> chester_martins, rm -R
[21:31] <chester_martins_> THE OPPOSITE OF MKDIR
[21:31] <stefg> !caps
[21:31] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[21:31] <Rudd-O> chester_martins_: use rm -rf /path/to/dir
[21:31] <a-arschi>  :)
[21:31] <chester_martins_> lol
[21:31] <chester_martins_> ok
[21:31] <RequinB4> !caps | chester_martins
[21:31] <ubotu> chester_martins: please see above
[21:31] <juano__> chester_martins sudo rm -r mydir
[21:31] <chester_martins_> :D
[21:31] <killroy_2> chester_martins: rm -r <directory)
[21:31] <ComPro> juano__: i cann't install the binary drivers. they break things past version 8.37
[21:31] <chester_martins_> thanks
[21:31] <a-arschi>  '<  :'(
[21:31] <Ctrl_> ches but rmdir for empity folders
[21:31] <Rudd-O> NET||abuse: you cant plug vlc into totem.  totem uses gstramer, vlc uses its own internal machinery
[21:31] <Ashfire908> juano__, grub says it can't mount.
[21:31] <a-arschi>  :|  :)  :|  '<
[21:32] <ComPro> juano__: i did follow the instructions for the restricted driver
[21:32] <Ctrl_> funny , each one suggest how to remove dir by his own way ;)
[21:32] <sky`sunset> sauvin : but i can send pm in other servers
[21:32] <Rudd-O> but -i guess you could in theory hack the totem pipeline to output a copy of the stream to disk
[21:32] <bullgard4>  http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/18750/ shows a log of my restart. Why does the dmesg time stamp jump in line 59 from [ 0.000000]  suddenly to [ 18.110675]?
[21:32] <Rudd-O> you're better off building a gstreamer pipeline manually and executing that pipeline
[21:32] <sauvin> sky`sunset, freenode servers have their own irc server software.
[21:32] <Rudd-O> bullgard4: because time is a relative construct?
[21:32] <sky`sunset> sauvin i c
[21:33] <sauvin> sky`sunset, if I wasn't clear on this point, you're on a freenode server now.
[21:33] <Rudd-O> or maybe because after 18 seconds give or take, the klogd is started and extracts data from the kernel log ringbuffer into userspace
[21:33] <sky`sunset> sauvin, i know wut u r saying.
[21:33] <chester_martins_> can anybody help me? i'm trying doing a custom of ubuntu for one school use... who can help me talk me pvt :)
[21:33] <Jvalldom> problemas /dev/video0 con el camorama alguien lo ha pasado ya?
[21:33] <bullgard4> Rudd-O: Since the days of Einstein time is a relative coordinate. Still it does not jump.
[21:33] <MeeKs> i just got this laptop for my dad, hes very very very computer "retarded" i want some opinions on what version of linux to run on this for him.  http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/as3680.htm
[21:33] <juano__> ComPro: break things ?
[21:33] <sauvin> !es > Jvalldom
[21:33] <killroy_2> okay, I've just turned off my internal wifi and have installed a pcmcia linksys wpc54g v4 wifi card.  It has power (the light is on).  How do I configure it to work?
[21:33] <killroy_2> !pcmcia
[21:33] <hdevalence> so if I format an externat drive with ext3, will the journal protect against accidental unplugging?
[21:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:34] <joshua__> sauvin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45847/
[21:34] <a-arschi> Official Ubuntu Support Channel | Please be patient and read the FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[21:34] <Rudd-O> shit I cant get the pulseaudio package to build
[21:34] <ComPro> juano__: i get a garbled, multicolored display that totally locks the system. happens in linux, xp, and vista unless i use an older driver
[21:34] <Ashfire908> juano__, nvm i think i got it...
[21:34] <Jvalldom> sauvin:  que??
[21:34] <Rudd-O> it doesnt specify where its attempting to install files
[21:34] <juano__> Ashfire908: ah good
[21:34] <AllNicksAreTaken> !ubuntu
[21:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[21:34] <Jvalldom> sauvin:  como lo resolviste?
[21:34] <AllNicksAreTaken> !download
[21:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[21:34] <Rudd-O> ComPro: get a new video card.
[21:35] <ComPro> Rudd-O: i'm working just fine in windows, and i was working fine in linux. i'm not going to shell out money when i dont have to.
[21:35] <juano__> ComPro: im familiar with nvidia more than ati... and what happens with a lower version ?
[21:35] <stefg> bullgard4: it does jump.... you go to bed at 0:00, but the next thing you notice is looking at the clock at 8:00 in the morning... or whenever you rise :-)
[21:35] <Rudd-O> ComPro: dont you just say that the vid is also scrambled on windows?
[21:35] <ComPro> juano__: with a lower version, i work just fine in windows, and i was working fine in linux until today
[21:35] <ComPro> Rudd-O - only if i use a newer driver
[21:35] <sauvin> Jvalldom, I don't speak Spanish well enough to be able to help you. You'll have to find a Spanish-speaking channel. I thought there'd be an #ubuntu-es channel.
[21:35] <ifco> hey guys
[21:35]  * ifco says hi
[21:35] <juano__> Rudd-O: with the binary driver he had that issue only version 8.37 or ^^
[21:35] <a7x> MeeKs, keep your father on windows
[21:35] <Rudd-O> ComPro: then its definitely, DEFINITELY, a bug in the driver
[21:35] <RequinB4> !es | Jvalldom
[21:35] <ubotu> Jvalldom: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[21:36] <chester_martins_> %C12can anybody help me? i'm trying doing a custom of ubuntu for one school use... who can help me talk me pvt :)
[21:36] <joshua__> sauvin:  did you get my pastebin?
[21:36] <sauvin> joshua__, I don't know sudoers well enough to be able to help with that file. Something called SMB4K borked it.
[21:36] <Rudd-O> USE THE ATI driver momentarily,
[21:36] <nightdragon> hello everybody
[21:36] <bullgard4> stefg: I will do that soon...
[21:36] <Ashfire908> juano__, let me attempt to boot
[21:36] <juano__> ComPro: then disable the restricted driver and install the lower version of the binary again
[21:36] <Ashfire908> bbl/brb
[21:36] <juano__> Ashfire908: sure
[21:36] <Rudd-O> sauvin: sudoers format can be consulted in sudoers manpage
[21:36] <ifco> cant find how to actually install the plugins i downloaded!!
[21:36] <ComPro> Rudd-O: But what could explain it working yesterday, but not today, even after a complete reformat and reinstall of ubuntu?
[21:36] <sauvin> Can anybody help joshua__ with his b0rked sudoers file?
[21:36] <whisperkiller> uktyhboijhoijpidtyuilk
[21:36] <Jvalldom> asuvin: i do speak english. sorry i have the spanish channel open either
[21:36]  * ompaul fatfingers the keyboard
[21:36] <Rudd-O> but honestly, I didnt understandt he manpage
[21:36] <RequinB4> nosotros solomente podemos hablar un poco aqui :D
[21:36] <sky`sunset> does anyone here use backtrack 2?
[21:36] <Rudd-O> ComPro: because perhaps the card has developed a GLITCH?
[21:36] <whisperkiller> 2>:o873
[21:36] <RequinB4> lol Jvalldom
[21:36] <Rudd-O> I have seen it happen
[21:36] <kanuha> whats the best email client that docks in gnome?
[21:36] <joshua__> I can delete that entry with vi?
[21:36] <MdL054> Guys, when I boot up off of the ubuntu CD it bring me to a (initramfs) prompt... This is after selecting the run/install option
[21:36] <B-rabbit> OMG!! guyz i am trying to use evolution(first timer) and when i put in my password....this window pops up and it says "Error sending password: -ERR Hotmail said you must pay money to have WebDAV access"...does this mean i have to pay to hotmail  to access my account via evolution!
[21:36] <nightdragon> is there anyone that can help? i am no longer able to access my windows partition from unix (sda3 i think)... and i cant seem to find the disk manager to mount it! help!
[21:37] <sauvin> Jvalldom, so that I'll understand better what you're trying to ask, can you repeat your problem in English?
[21:37] <sky`sunset> does anyone here use backtrack 2?
[21:37] <Rudd-O> kanuha: evolution.  it has a dock icon plugin in the preferences plugins.
[21:37] <chester_martins_> can anybody help me? i'm trying doing a custom of ubuntu for one school use... anybody could help me??
[21:37] <Jvalldom> sure
[21:37] <Rudd-O> B-rabbit: hotmail is not compatible with evolution in any shape or form
[21:37] <nightdragon> chester: edubuntu?
[21:37] <Rudd-O> you need to use gotmail to automate getting mail from htomail into a local folder and use the local folder
[21:37] <emma> B-rabbit -- I am sorry I cannot help you and I realize this may not be a productive comment but in all honesty I truely believe you would be better off just not using hotmail.
[21:37] <stefg> !boot | MdL054
[21:37] <ubotu> MdL054: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[21:37] <davenull> B-rabbit: yes, hotmail is a pay for pop3 acces
[21:37] <Rudd-O> use gmail
[21:37] <kanuha> Rudd-O, does it still show in the taskbar when minimized?
[21:37]  * sauvin ne se rit de personne qui parle une langue etrangere mais doit exiger qu'on parle anglais dan les parages
[21:37] <juano__> gmail rulez
[21:38] <emma> B-rabbit,  ubuntu and everything else aside using Hotmail just makes no sense in this day and age.
[21:38] <Rudd-O> kanuha: the notif area plugin makes a mail icon appear on the notification area when yo ahve mail
[21:38] <stefg> !traffic
[21:38] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[21:38] <sauvin> emma, I use hotmail, yahoo mail and gmail.
[21:38] <nightdragon> gmail does rule.
[21:38] <Rudd-O> emma: hi there!
[21:38] <emma> sauvin -- You are 2/3rd sane.
[21:38] <juano__> lol
[21:38] <sauvin> Well, I don't use hotmail for much :\
[21:38] <Jock2> Rudd-O: I looked that up, and doing Alt+SysRq+REISUB reboots the system. That's probably better than just pressing the power button.
[21:38] <kanuha> Rudd-O, thx
[21:39] <Rudd-O> Jock2: you should just do alt sysrq K
[21:39] <nightdragon> (jesus christ)
[21:39] <Rudd-O> that should kill and make X restart
[21:39] <joshua__> sauvin:  since I logged out I lost the page where soundray gave me a command for visudo If ican get that shell command I can just delete the smb stuff
[21:39] <Rudd-O> SAK rules
[21:39] <ifco> heyy guys does anyone know how to install the pidgin/gaim plugins after downloading them?
[21:39] <Jvalldom> i have installed ubuntu 7.10. Everything went find except the integrated webcam that was not and still is recognized. So i read on the web about gspca, did instalation, but still have problem with /dev/video0. seems that it is not created
[21:39] <sauvin> joshua, I don't use vi for editing. I use nano.
[21:39] <emma> Why not use emacs?
[21:39] <stefg> !webcam | Jvalldom
[21:39] <joshua__> sauvin: can you scroll back and repaste the sudoers file has a note that says it must be edited with visudo
[21:40] <Rudd-O> Jvalldom: if /dev/video0 is not created automatically, then thev ideo card driver does not support the card.  test using dmesg to see if when you plug the card, the deriver picks it up
[21:40] <sauvin> emma, because I never troubled myself to learn it, and it's not needed for small jobs.
[21:40] <Undead_Zeu1> This is very annoying, my sound sometimes likes to randomly stop working. First it stops working in a java webstart application
[21:40] <emma> sauvin - I see.
[21:40] <Undead_Zeu1> then it ceases working altogether, how can I avoidt his?
[21:40] <ubotu> Jvalldom: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[21:40] <Undead_Zeu1> this*?
[21:40] <Rudd-O> emacs ise vil
[21:40] <sauvin> joshua__, I don't know what that warning is about. I've never used vi for anything, and I HAVE edited the sudoers file. With nano.
[21:40] <emma> I'm gonna tell #emacs you said that.
[21:40] <Rudd-O> Undead_Zeu1: check the dmesg command output, see if there are driver errors
[21:40] <Jvalldom> i have downloaded the ati drivers already
[21:40] <Phill> How do I rekey my mouse? I have a spare key that I want it to behave like a "middleclick" how may I do this?
[21:40] <ompaul> please quit with the flame wars
[21:41] <Jvalldom> but gonna see about dmesg
[21:41] <sauvin> emma, you go right ahead and tell #emacs I said that. I'll argue that the tool that serves a particular individual best is the best one to use.
[21:41] <stefg> Rudd-O: http://bash.org/?795779
[21:41] <Rudd-O> Phill: check the xorg.conf file in /etc/X11.  You can remap mouse buttons
[21:41] <deadlock> alguien que hable español? uso ubuntu 7.10 y cuando añado un programa inicio de la sesion no arranca el progrma
[21:41] <ompaul> sauvin, emma please quit with the flame wars
[21:41] <Rudd-O> stefg: whats your name?
[21:41] <jscinoz> Ubuntu is randomly crashing for me (in such sysrq combinations or ctrl-alt-bksp do nothing) this occurs when i open multiple programs without waiting for the previous one to open before starting the next. This is definitely not hardware related as it occurs on two different machines, and doesn't happen in windows, what is causing this and how can i fix it?
[21:41] <ompaul> !es | deadlock
[21:41] <Rudd-O> !ubuntu-es
[21:41] <ubotu> deadlock: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[21:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:41] <Phill> Rudd-O: X11 can be configured by hand?
[21:41] <sauvin> ompaul, I'm done with "flame wars" :D
[21:41] <emma> No problem. I don't think we are really arguing or flaming eachother though.
[21:41] <chester_martins_> can anybody run iTunes on UBUNTU??
[21:41] <emma> We love eachother.
[21:42] <eth01> no you cannot run iTunes on ubuntu ...
[21:42] <jscinoz> chester_martins_ i belive it runs perfectly using WINE
[21:42] <Rudd-O> jscinoz: two machines may have hardware issues, you know?  anyway, what is COMMON factor on those two machines?
[21:42] <ompaul> sauvin, emma lets call it preemptive on my part
[21:42] <Rudd-O> eth01: itunes < amarok
[21:42] <juano__> chester_martins_: with wine you can
[21:42] <sauvin> chester_martins_, I've read in various places that recent versions of iTunes on wine is a Bad Idea.
[21:42] <emma> Sure no prob :P
[21:42] <eth01> jscinoz: it's very slow.
[21:42] <sauvin> ompaul, in a busy channel like this, nobody can blame you.
[21:42] <chester_martins_> it's slow with wine :S
[21:42] <juano__> chester_martins_: yep
[21:42] <Rudd-O> Phill:  ROFL!
[21:42] <eth01> Russ-O: it's not iTunes .... read questions properly.
[21:42] <juano__> chester_martins_: i prefer amarok or rhythmbox or listen
[21:43] <Phill> Rudd-O; I've had bad experiences with X11 configuration files -,-
[21:43] <stefg> chester_martins_: it's called amarok on ubuntu :-)
[21:43] <Rudd-O> damnit, I want pulseaudio 0.9.8 and I have no idea how to build it!
[21:43] <eth01> or, you could just create a windows VM using XEN ;)
[21:43] <sauvin> Is the iTunes question because of a recent iPod?
[21:43] <michal__> Hi, I bought Creative Zen, and i want to connect it to my computer. How can i do it?
[21:43] <Rudd-O> Phill: me too.  just back the file up
[21:43] <Rudd-O> oh
[21:43] <Jvalldom> v4l-conf says v4l-conf: using X11 display :1.0
[21:43] <Jvalldom> WARNING: Your X-Server has no DGA support.
[21:43] <Rudd-O> back the file up
[21:43] <Jvalldom> mode: 1280x800, depth=24, bpp=32, bpl=5120, base=unknown
[21:43] <Jvalldom> can't open /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[21:43] <Rudd-O> STOP the gdm service
[21:43] <Oni-Dracula> anyone know what the heck this means ?"Failed to create pipe for communicating with child process (Too many open files)"
[21:43] <chester_martins_> juano__ but one thing that others don't do is organize music directory automaticly
[21:43] <Rudd-O> and then start X manually once
[21:43] <a-arschi> a-arschi hat sich am So 25 Nov 2007 22:16:01 CET eingeloggt und ist seit 1 Minute und 19 Sekunden
[21:43] <Rudd-O> that way you can quickly revert without your system randomly blinking the login screen
[21:44] <nightdragon> umm... does anyone know the parition manager for linux? what its called?
[21:44] <Rudd-O> chester_martins_: amarok does organize stuff if you tell it to
[21:44] <chester_martins_> ?
[21:44] <a-arschi> a-arschi hat sich am So 25 Nov 2007 22:16:01 CET eingeloggt und ist seit 1 Minute und 19 Sekunden
[21:44] <Rudd-O> nightdragon: there are several.  what is it that you intend to do?
[21:44] <sauvin> a-arschi, who cares?
[21:44] <chester_martins_> really...and i don't need an extra plugin?
[21:44] <juano__> chester_martins_: yes , in listen it does organize your music
[21:44] <stefg> !info amarok | chester_martins_
[21:44] <ubotu> chester_martins_: amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.7-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 9618 kB, installed size 31020 kB
[21:44] <michal__> nightdragon: qparted or q-parted
[21:44] <Rudd-O> its an autoannuncer script
[21:44] <juano__> chester_martins_: what i havent been able to do is make my rokr phone sync its itunes in linux
[21:45] <chester_martins_> i used listen...but it didn't organize :S
[21:45] <sauvin> ompaul, like I said, in a busy channel like this, nobody can blame you :D
[21:45] <Rudd-O> rokr = failr
[21:45] <juano__> chester_martins_: but who cares, i can listen to music with my 512 memory in the rokr using normal mp3s
[21:45] <kanuha> Oni-Dracula, don't know, I had that before as well when copying files, unfortunately I reinstalled Ubuntu and it went away
[21:45] <Undead_Zeu1> Rudd-O: I don't see driver errors
[21:45]  * michal__ requests libraries to connect Creative Zen in Gnomad
[21:45] <Phill> Rudd-O: wtc can I change?
[21:45] <juano__> chester_martins_: so itunes = pooh
[21:45] <chester_martins_> amarok runs well with gnome?
[21:45] <Rudd-O> ?
[21:45] <Rudd-O> itunes: 8=D
[21:45] <Rudd-O> amarok: 8[21:45] <chester_martins_> never! itunes is the best music organizer!!
[21:45] <juano__> lol
[21:46] <Rudd-O> chester_martins_: you honestly haven't organized music with amarok before, have you?
[21:46] <juano__> its the slowest program ive ever seen
[21:46] <jscinoz> Rudd-0, both are laptops running ubuntu, thats the only thing in common, and my current one has had the mobo, gpu and cpu replaced already, and memtest returns no errors.
[21:46] <chester_martins_> amarok runs wel with gnome???????
[21:46] <jscinoz> rudd-O, so i'm quite sure its related to ubuntu
[21:46] <Rudd-O> I meant any common hardware among the laptops, jscinoz
[21:46] <Undead_Zeu1> this is BS, Ubuntu has been giving me annoying problems ever since I installed it, I am going back to Windows XP
[21:46] <Rudd-O> I was an easytag freak, until I discovered the amarok tag editor and musicbrainz thang
[21:46] <killroy_2> I'm trying to get my linksys wpc54g v4 wifi NIC to mount in ubuntu but it's a now go.  Anyone working with PCMCIA able to help?
[21:47] <Ashfire908> j
[21:47] <sauvin> Amarok is a pretty ambitious project; it's not the simplest thing you can use, but the little monster certainly has lots of CAPABILITY.
[21:47] <juano__> best music player is audacious
[21:47] <Rudd-O> Undead_Zeu1: good luck with the journey. I left windows XP because it gave me annoying problems, and so has kubuntu, but the difference is in kubuntu I can actually FIX
[21:47] <juano__> by far
[21:47] <Ashfire908> juano__: nope
[21:47] <Rudd-O> juano__: audacious = lame xmms clone
[21:47] <jscinoz> Rudd-O, alright... CPU, one was centrino solo, one centrino duo, first had 1gb of 333mhz ram, other has 4gb of 666, old had nvidia gefore 5200M, new has 8400m GS
[21:47] <Rudd-O> maybe related to video?
[21:47] <Rudd-O> can you try vesa driver?
[21:47] <chester_martins_> i need a good music organizer!!
[21:47] <juano__> Rudd-O: can you play midis, spc, nsf  with amarok ?
[21:47] <Rudd-O> see if it goes away
[21:47] <Undead_Zeu1> I haven't been able to fix any of my problems in Ubuntu, and Windows XP actually gave me no problems
[21:47] <Ashfire908> juano__: i told it to boot the flash drive and i got this: "GRUB "
[21:48] <jscinoz> Rudd-O, vesa or the non accelerated nvidia?
[21:48] <Rudd-O> juano__: not midis, but I think scp and nsf yes, if xine plays it, amarok plays it
[21:48] <juano__> lol
[21:48] <Rudd-O> jscinoz: vesa and nv if you can
[21:48] <jscinoz> Rudd-O, alright, brb restarting X
[21:48] <Rudd-O> Ashfire908: grub is just the computer's way of saying it wants food.
[21:48] <juano__> Rudd-O: a player that cant play midis just is way bad
[21:48] <Rudd-O> short, sweet, to the point grunt
[21:48] <Rudd-O> juano__: a man who listens to midis is plain sick
[21:48] <sauvin> Well, if you don't like Amarok, why don't you browse the repos? I thought I saw several.
[21:49] <juano__> Rudd-O: yep ;)
[21:49] <juano__> Rudd-O: hehe
[21:49] <stefg> !player
[21:49] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[21:49] <Rudd-O> rofl
[21:49] <Rudd-O> I thought steg was gonna request a list of playaz in the channel
[21:49] <Rukus> anyone have any suggestions on a flashfxp alternative? i tried gftp, but i cant get it to do what i want
[21:49] <stefg> can we have mediaplayer wars in #ubuntu-offtopic and concentrate on support in here ?
[21:49] <Rudd-O> it probably would have said Rudd-O as the first list element
[21:49] <Rudd-O> Rukus: Konqueror?
[21:49] <juano__> Ashfire908: so you tried booting with pendrive ?
[21:49] <Rukus> does it do SSL?
[21:49] <Rudd-O> I used weex to push shit through FTP.  it was fantastic
[21:50] <juano__> Ashfire908: and it gave you an error ?
[21:50] <juano__> Ashfire908: what error ?
[21:50] <Rukus> i need it ti do auth TLS
[21:50] <mico> hi therre
[21:50] <Rudd-O> Rukus: not really sure if it does SSL FTP
[21:50] <PriceChild> Use sftp instead of ftp.
[21:50] <Rudd-O> you're the owner of a topsite, arent you?
[21:50] <sky`sunset> y do we have to unmount the usb drive b4 formatting it?
[21:50] <Rukus> me?
[21:50] <Ashfire908> juano__: none. just "GRUB "
[21:50] <killroy_2> support question: how do I get my wifi device to scan for my network.  My wifi was working and now it doesn't scan for a network.  Is there a way to reconfigure wifi?  remove drivers and reinstall or something?
[21:50] <sky`sunset> btw does anyone here use backtrack 2?
[21:50] <Rudd-O> sftp requires ssh, which isnt exactly compaible with the needs of a topsite operator
[21:50] <Ashfire908> with the space
[21:51] <Rukus> Rudd-O ?
[21:51] <juano__> Ashfire908: just that at bootime ?
[21:51] <sky`sunset> y do we have to unmount the usb drive b4 formatting it?
[21:51] <Rudd-O> killroy_2: either use the systray icon of network manager, or install wpa_supplicant and configure it , which is a PAIN but works every time
[21:51] <sauvin> sky`sunset, you can't format a filesystem that's currently in use.
[21:51] <nightdragon> lol this is a MADHOUSE
[21:51] <Rudd-O> sky`sunset:  because if you dont umount it, the kernel gets REALLY CONFUSED as to what data is on disk
[21:51] <sky`sunset> k
[21:51] <sky`sunset> thank u
[21:51] <Rudd-O> of course, this is a known fact of every operating systme
[21:51] <Rudd-O> not just linux
[21:52] <Rukus> Rudd-O  is who the owner of a topsite?
[21:52] <Rudd-O> you
[21:52] <Rukus> why do u say that
[21:52] <Rudd-O> I didnt mean owner, I just meant operator
[21:52] <Rudd-O> flashfxp is typically the software of choice for topsite ops
[21:52] <Rukus> no, i got leech access if u wanna know
[21:52] <Rudd-O> fantastik
[21:52] <boguh> hi, i just installed windows after ubuntu and now im trying to restore my mbr. i booted the live cd and chrooted to my system partiton. but now there are no /dev/sda devices to install grub. what can i do?
[21:52] <Rudd-O> it'd be great to have leech access to a topsite carrying dance music.
[21:52] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[21:52] <ciacon> hi all - I have a Q - what is the best way to find out what kind of Sound System I use?? I just installed the Kubuntu 7.10 and am experienceing some sound problems - all command line apps seem to have problems accessing the soundcard and I also have the feeling, that Kopete does not notify me of new messages thaks to sound-problems - can someone give me some advice??
[21:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:52] <Ashfire908> juano__: yep
[21:52] <killroy_2> Rudd-O: I think I managed to break it with the KNetworkManager - I tried to enable it to autostart and DHCP and since they it doesn't even scan for the network.
[21:53] <stefg> !grub | boguh
[21:53] <ubotu> boguh: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:53] <poeloq> !offtopic | Rudd-O
[21:53] <ubotu> Rudd-O: please see above
[21:53] <BRazBoy-00MA> hi
[21:53] <Rudd-O> ciacon: you use ALSA as a sound system, and ARTSD as sound server for KDE and Kopete
[21:53] <kst-> i'm running gutsy gnome but want to give KDE a shot, (how) can I just install KDE and test it? will I screw up my system by that? what's the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu anyway, just GUI and the software that ships with it?
[21:53] <jscinoz> Rudd-O, doesnt occur with either vesa or nv, vesa results in the screen being distorted, nv doesnt, so atm using nv, however this is not a solution, as i  need hardware accel
[21:53] <mnuaimat> hi guys, i have 17" LCD monitor, is there anyway i can enable something like microsoft's clearType on my ubuntu 7.10 in order to improve appearance of fonts?
[21:53] <Rudd-O> jscinoz: install nvidia-glx-new package see how it goes
[21:53] <Ashfire908> juano__: i'm going to try now again. i put device.map file on there now
[21:53] <Slart> kst-: why not just try the live cd.. it ought to give you an idea of what it's like
[21:54] <jscinoz> Rudd-O, thats the one i was using
[21:54] <Rudd-O> install nvidia-glx plain
[21:54] <Rudd-O> or try with nvidia-glx-legacy (doubt it will work)
[21:54] <BRazBoy-00MA> hi
[21:54] <ciacon> Rudd-O: how can it happen, that the simplest of programs (for eg mpg123) can't access the sound-card?? is this due to a malconfiguration?
[21:54] <Slart> mnuaimat: yes.. there is something similar.. hang on.. I'll see what it's called
[21:54] <jscinoz> Rudd-O, would trying nvidia without all of the added Option lines in xorg.conf be a good idea?
[21:54] <mnuaimat> Slart: ok , i am waiting
[21:54] <Phill> Anyone know how to remap a key currently recognized by xev as "0x7a" to be a middle click? Rudd-O suggest xorg.conf; but... I have no idea how to edit that properly.
[21:54] <sauvin> ciacon, do you get a "/dev/dsp busy" error?
[21:54] <Rudd-O> how can I find out if someone has built pulseaudio 0.9.8 for gutsy?  google is no help.
[21:55] <Rudd-O> a KEYBOARD key?
[21:55] <killroy_2> ok, how about this: I'm fed up with struggling with this, so, can any recommend either a USB wifi NIC or PCMCIA that will work "out of the box" with Gutsy?
[21:55] <Rudd-O> not thatI know of
[21:55] <Rukus> i'll reword, i need a FlashFXP alternative for linux that supports SSL, specifically auth TLS.  any suggestions?
[21:55] <Rudd-O> killroy_2: it's hit and miss, but I have gotten every card I tried to work with ndiswrapper and the windows driver inf
[21:55] <stefg> ciacon: 'lspci | grep audio ' or 'aplay -l' will tell you what soundchip you have
[21:55] <Slart> mnuaimat: in system, preferences, appearance.. under fonts.. there's subpixel rendering at the bottom
[21:55] <jscinoz> killroy_2, anything with an intel chipset seems to work pretty well, i got wpa and everything out of the box.
[21:55] <mnuaimat> Slart: thank you i will try it now , brb
[21:55] <Rudd-O> or cat /proc/asound/cards for sound cards
[21:56] <ciacon> Rudd-O: know what it is --> "  00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)  "
[21:56] <Phill> Rudd-OL a mouse key.
[21:56] <stefg> !intelhda | ciacon
[21:56] <Rudd-O> Rukus: no idea.  tried googling for linux ftp client auth starttls
[21:56] <ubotu> ciacon: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[21:56] <Rudd-O> ?
[21:56] <Rukus> maybe i should have just stuck with windows... ;)
[21:56] <mnuaimat> Slart: wow, that really works, thank you my friend :)
[21:56] <Phill> Rudd-O: It's a mouse key that I want to reconfigure as a middle click.
[21:56] <Rukus> kidding
[21:56] <jscinoz> Rukus, what did flashfxp do?
[21:56] <Rudd-O> ich7?  it works and it works fine, I just setup a machine with exactly the same audio controler
[21:56] <Slart> mnuaimat: you're welcome
[21:56] <sauvin> Oh nonononono, not the W-word again!
[21:56] <Rukus> it did SSL
[21:57] <killroy_2> jscinoz: ok, now, when you say anything with an intel chipset, can you recommend either PCMCIA or USB specifically?  That is, I don't know which has which chipset (though I suppose it will be labeled) and would love a place to start.
[21:57] <ComPro> juano__: I tried an older driver. it still failed.
[21:57] <Rukus> what do you mean
[21:57] <sauvin> this is a family-friendly channel; we're not supposed to say cuss words like W*ndows.
[21:57] <Rudd-O> the option you want is zaxismapping in xorg.conf to remap the mouse keys
[21:57] <ComPro> juano__: actually, i couldn't even run aticonfig after installing the 8.36 binary
[21:57] <Rudd-O> fuck no!
[21:57] <Rudd-O> don't ever say w***ws here
[21:57] <stefg> !ohmy
[21:57] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:57] <Bruno1> i get this error when runing configure
[21:57] <Bruno1> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[21:57] <jscinoz> killroy_2, i'm not sure, im using a mini pci intel 2200AGN, it worked perfectly
[21:57] <ComPro> i'm strongly considering forgetting linux and going back to a single boot Windows XP box.
[21:57] <Rukus> jscinoz flashfxp did SSL
[21:57]  * sauvin wonders how much trouble he'd get into for using really foul language like V?sta
[21:57] <PriceChild> !offtopic | Rudd-O sauvin
[21:57] <juano__> ComPro: did you disable restricted drivers first ?
[21:57] <ubotu> Rudd-O sauvin: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:57] <Rudd-O> Bruno1: you need to install gcc?
[21:58] <mnuaimat> guys, i have a USB webcam, i dunno its type, is there anyway i can check if its supported or not, working or not, can i make it work or not ??
[21:58] <Slart> Bruno1: have you done this? "sudo apt-get install build-essential"?
[21:58] <ComPro> juano__: yes i did.
[21:58] <a7x> ComPro, ati is a pain
[21:58] <killroy_2> what is frustrating me most of all is that when I set my wireless device to autostart and DCHP in KNetworkManager it now no longer even scans for my wireless network.  I'd love to just get it back to finding the network so I can work on resolving the initial problem with the firmware
[21:58] <a7x> real big pain
[21:58] <_bt> mnuaimat: plug it in and type lsusb at the command line
[21:58] <stefg> !webcam | mnuaimat
[21:58] <ubotu> mnuaimat: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[21:58] <sauvin> Which ATI?
[21:58] <cthulfuego> Bruno1: ./configure writes to a file called configure.log with info in it.
[21:58] <mnuaimat> _bt: brb
[21:58] <ComPro> i hate ATI. the only reason i bought this card is because it was a cheap, halfway decent PCI-e card
[21:58] <a7x> Ati is great
[21:58] <Rudd-O> killroy_2: thats because it was written out in /etc/network/interfaces
[21:58] <a7x> in my opinion
[21:58] <a7x> i like them
[21:58] <jscinoz> rukus, according to the appdb, flashfxp runs reasonably in wine.
[21:59] <Rudd-O> you need to remvoe references to it in the /etc/network/interfaces file and you will have again net scanning
[21:59] <mnuaimat> _bt: no it's not mentioned in the lsusb output
[21:59] <Bruno1> Slart: no, i do it now
[21:59] <ComPro> for christ's sake, i can't even load a mandriva install CD. it craps out trying to load X.
[21:59] <Rudd-O> I discovered that after five hours of mucking around
[21:59] <a7x> model name	: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz
[21:59] <a7x> cpu MHz		: 600.000
[21:59] <goodhabit> Hello. I have Ubuntu 7.10 and I looking for set-up VPN PPTP connection. How I can do it?
[21:59] <Rudd-O> ComPro: you have a vid card glitch man try another video card, a borrowed one
[21:59] <Phill> ComPro: Ahh; X crashing - one of the truly reliable things found in nature.
[21:59] <sauvin> a7x, ATI is a problem child with respect to linux drivers. My laptop has ATI, and its driver doesn't support 3D acceleration. Worse, using the driver wipes out my VCs.
[21:59] <Slart> Bruno1: that installs the basic stuff needed for compiling... always a good start
[21:59] <juano__> ComPro: nvidia is the best i think
[22:00] <a7x> my laptop has ati
[22:00] <jscinoz> Rukus, if you want something native, try iglooftp http://iglooftp.com/linux/
[22:00] <killroy_2> Rudd-O: you are right.  I was able to see the flaw in interfaces and have since corrected it (thank you)
[22:00] <mnuaimat> _bt: should i give up? or try something else ?
[22:00] <a7x> i don't need to install the card really though
[22:00] <Rudd-O> intel is in fact the best
[22:00] <ComPro> juano__: i want an nvidia card. i'm just not going to buy one as long as this card still works, which it works in windows.
[22:00] <a7x> i mainly chat
[22:00] <Rudd-O> but nvidia is the fastest
[22:00] <a7x> and use aircrack and kismet
[22:00] <a7x> that's about all i do
[22:00] <cthulfuego> goodhabit: apt-cache search pptp - it will find the server and the networkmanager plugin (GUI client)
[22:00] <a7x> i use my desktop for gaming
[22:00] <_bt> mnuaimat: anything in dmesg?
[22:00] <Rudd-O> ComPro: it IS possible that a glitch affects linux but not windows. I have experienced it.
[22:00] <jscinoz> Rudd-O, so now that we know my problem only occurs with the nvidia driver, what can i do to run nvidia without the problem
[22:00] <Rudd-O> eventually the card starts to crap out in windows as well.
[22:00] <a7x> juano__, and MasterShrek are still my heroes
[22:00] <mnuaimat> _bt:  dmesg|grep cam gives nothing
[22:00] <juano__> ComPro: yea. i think to buy another card is a bit overreacting but, i have an nvidia never had trouble what so ever with any linux distro neither windows
[22:01] <goodhabit> cthulfuego, I have installed it, but it seems the icon doesn't added. How to start it?
[22:01] <cthulfuego> goodhabit: You probably need to restart networkmanager
[22:01] <jscinoz> Rukus, does iglooFTP suit your needs?
[22:01] <Rudd-O> jscinoz: if you tried nvidia-glx-legacy, nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-glx and none of them worked... you need a new card.  it might also be a problem with the agpgart
[22:01] <_bt> mnuaimat: just try dmesg and look towards the bottom
[22:01] <ComPro> i still have my old AGP nVidia card. sadly, my new mobo doesnt do AGP
[22:01] <Rudd-O> the icon appears once you restart your graphical session
[22:01] <Rudd-O> probably reboot the machine for good measure, but you can always restart just networking
[22:01] <pliumbum> bas
[22:02] <Rudd-O> ComPro: same problem over here, stuck with a 8mb integrated ati adapter
[22:02] <cthulfuego> sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart
[22:02] <mnuaimat> _bt: what should i look for, in the bottom of dmesg ?
[22:02] <cthulfuego> Rebooting is in no way necessary.
[22:02] <jscinoz> Rudd-O, but is AGP even used in PCI express cards?
[22:02] <juano__> ComPro: sell the agp card and ati card and get a newer nvidia card
[22:02] <_bt> anything that might look like its related
[22:02] <MilitantPotato> what does $ stand for?
[22:02] <Rudd-O> cthulfuego: thats why I said for good measure
[22:02] <cthulfuego> Eh
[22:02] <ComPro> heh
[22:02] <Rudd-O> jscinoz: I understand it is.
[22:02] <cthulfuego> `NetworkManager restart' even - no init script.
[22:02] <juano__> ComPro: hehe
[22:02] <sauvin> MilitantPotato, in what context?
[22:03] <MilitantPotato> cthulfuego: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:03] <killroy_2> ok, that taken care of, has anyone see an issue with an Intel wifi where the wifi cycles between connected and disconnected and dmesg reports "ipw2100: Fatal interrupt. Scheduling firmware restart" each time the connection is dropped?
[22:03] <jscinoz> Rudd-O, also the same thing happend on a much older card, and this is a laptop so changing the GPU isnt an option
[22:03] <cthulfuego> MilitantPotato: Usually it indicates a root shell.
[22:03] <MilitantPotato> sauvin: in a terminal
[22:03] <goodhabit> cthulfuego, I have not NetworkManager there.
[22:03] <Rukus> jscinoz: flashfxp locks at the listing of files, using both latest version wine and flashfxp. also isnt iglooftp NOT free software? kind of the reason i came to linux, so i could find alternatives to those kind of problems.
[22:03] <sauvin> MilitantPotato, are you talking about the command prompt?
[22:03] <Rukus> or am i wrong?
[22:03] <MilitantPotato> sauvin: yea
[22:03] <stefg> !ftp | Rukus
[22:03] <ubotu> Rukus: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[22:03] <Beck> How do I change the screen brightness in Ubuntu 7.10?
[22:03] <mnuaimat> _bt: i think i am lost, i dunno what i am looking for, sorry but i am still a newbie
[22:03] <Rudd-O> Rukus: what does the standard output say when you run wine flashfxp on the console?
[22:03] <Rukus> do any of those do SSL
[22:03] <mpeters> Rukus: You tried Filezilla?
[22:03] <sauvin> MilitantPotato, in a terminal, many shells use a default $ prompt to show you're in a normal user account; a root account would use a # instead.
[22:04] <Rukus> no not yet
[22:04] <sauvin> MilitantPotato, I believe korn shell uses % for that purpose.
[22:04] <cthulfuego> goodhabit: Yeah, correct. Just 'sudo NetworkManager restart'
[22:04] <mpeters> Rukus: Filezilla does SSL
[22:04] <Bruno1> Slart: i now get this configure: error: GTK+-2.10 is required to compile aurora. How do i install gtk 2.10?
[22:04] <Rudd-O> my shell only shows a blank line.  I'm above the user/root duality.
[22:04] <Rukus> ok i will try firezilla
[22:04] <Slart> Beck: the knob on the monitor?
[22:04] <Rukus> file
[22:04] <RazzoRz> Hey folks..
[22:04] <juano__> ComPro: probably if you just installed ubuntu, you can try installing again from scratch and installing the binary driver without enabling the restricted one
[22:04] <Beck> Slart: I have a laptop
[22:04] <Rudd-O> Bruno1: it's odd, gtk 2.12 is now the default, so it shouldn't require an older version.
[22:04] <MilitantPotato> Ah cool.  I was following a guide that said run "$ python flyback.py" and I wasn't sure if the $ ment as root or as a user
[22:04] <jscinoz> Rukus, also kftpgrabber apparently supports SSL/TLS
[22:04] <RazzoRz> has anyone delt with Innotek Virturalbox?
[22:04] <Beck> Slart: Well, what do you know, the actual keys work with Ubuntu. o_O
[22:05] <Slart> Bruno1: there is probably a package called libgtk sometihng.. try looking in the documentation and use apt-cache search to search for the package to install
[22:05] <sauvin> MilitantPotato, don't type the $ :D
[22:05] <cthulfuego> Bruno1: it requires the gtk 2.10 or higher headers.
[22:05] <Rudd-O> don't give out $ indiscriminately
[22:05] <cthulfuego> Bruno1: You need the libgtk-2.0 something -dev package for those.
[22:05] <Rudd-O> people will take you for a ride
[22:05] <MilitantPotato> yea I gathered that, i wasn't sure if it ment run it as root or not :)
[22:05] <jscinoz> rukus, i'd go with filezilla though :P
[22:05] <Slart> Beck: oh... didn't think of laptops... but it's nice to know those keys aren't software based =)
[22:05] <Bruno1> cthulfuego:  thanks
[22:05] <Rudd-O> yes, compiling usually requires the -dev modules of the packages it says
[22:05] <jcs> olz
[22:05] <ComPro> juano__: maybe later i'll try that. i'm too frustrated now.
[22:05] <stefg> Bruno1: and remember that you need the packages with teh *-dev suffix for compiling
[22:05] <jscinoz> Rudd-O im going to try the nvidia module but without all the extra options, brb
[22:06] <Rukus> ok i will try filezilla
[22:06] <sillystring> how do you list your drives and partitions in linux?
[22:06] <Rukus> thanks
[22:06] <Bruno1> stefg: ok thanks
[22:06] <sillystring> through the console
[22:06] <Rudd-O> may I suggest a cold sixpack, ComPro?  It doe the trick for me.  OK, actually two and a half sixpacks do the trick for me.
[22:06] <sauvin> sillystring, I do a sudo fdisk -l
[22:06] <RazzoRz> has anyone delt with Innotek Virturalbox?
[22:06] <Rudd-O> RazzoRz: I have
[22:06] <Rudd-O> RazzoRz: it's VERY NICE, but the networking is a PAIN
[22:06] <juano__> ComPro: lol
[22:06] <goodhabit> RazzoRz, yep.
[22:06] <RazzoRz> Rudd-O...
[22:06] <Rudd-O> I reverted to vmware because of it
[22:06] <RazzoRz> well no
[22:06] <robdig_> sillystring: df
[22:06] <RazzoRz> I have mine worked out just fine
[22:06] <JJtech> anyone here familiar with wine??
[22:06] <juano__> ComPro: fglrxinfo
[22:06] <mnuaimat> _bt: i have disconnect it , then connect it again, then dmesg, it gives usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6
[22:07] <sillystring> kk
[22:07] <Rudd-O> I needed bridged networking due to the topology of my home network.
[22:07] <juano__> ComPro: type that in terminal
[22:07] <sillystring> what does sudo do to change fdisk -l?
[22:07] <Rudd-O> and the instructions were EXTREMELY complicated
[22:07] <Phill> Rudd-O: After reading the entire xorg man entry; I have found no reference on zaxismapping - am I blind?
[22:07] <sillystring> i had been trying fdisk to no avail
[22:07] <goodhabit> RazzoRz, just choose NAT networking, that's all.
[22:07] <Rudd-O> mind you I've been on Linux for 10 years now.
[22:07] <Rudd-O> ZAxisMapping
[22:07] <Rudd-O> you will find it on the x config file
[22:07] <RazzoRz> My Networkin is just fine
[22:07] <ComPro> fglrxinfo crashes whenever i run it
[22:07] <Phill> Rudd-O: But the question is; how to use it?
[22:07] <jscinoz> Rudd-O, problem doesnt occur with nvidia driver and no extra options, so now i just have to go through the ~7 options i have set and find which one breaks it. thanks for the help
[22:07] <RazzoRz> i want to know about my MIC
[22:07] <ipx_> Can I somehow mount .mdf/.mds-files and bypass copyprotection as I did in daemon tools in windows, and make that cd appear as a real cd for the computer, and therefore act as a mini-image and let my game launch? I've lost my diablo 2 cd and cant get any nocd to work :(
[22:07] <stefg> sillystring: fdisk -l needs root-privs, so you have to run it with sudo
[22:07] <Rudd-O> ComPro: can you run gdb fglrxinfo then type run in the command line it says?
[22:08] <Rudd-O> ipx_: not sure, honestly
[22:08] <sauvin> sillystring, unless I'm mistaken (I'm not in ubuntu right now), fdisk is in /sbin, which isn't in a normal user's path.
[22:08] <RazzoRz> and.... about installing 120 on my host xp? not sure if the cd drive is seen by 120
[22:08] <Rudd-O> yes
[22:08] <Phill> ipx_: Can you get daemon tools to work under emulation? =/
[22:08] <Rudd-O> 120?????
[22:08] <Slart> ipx_: you can use mount -o loop /path/to/iso/file /path/to/mount/point/
[22:08] <ComPro> Rudd-O, sure hang on just a sec
[22:08] <ipx_> Phill: I seriously doubt it?
[22:08] <Phill> ipx_: So do I =P
[22:08] <Rudd-O> Phill: you can get daemontools working just fine under a vmware or virtualbox XP machine
[22:08] <ipx_> Slart: It will not act the way i want
[22:08] <ipx_> Phill: =P
[22:09] <goodhabit> cthulfuego, I have done, but nothing is changed.
[22:09] <Rudd-O> Slart: I don't think .ms? files can be mounted loop
[22:09] <Rudd-O> they aren't isos
[22:09] <cthulfuego> goodhabit: Alright, logout and log back in.
[22:09] <Phill> gtg peace
[22:09] <goodhabit> cthulfuego, I am restarted x server now.
[22:09] <Ru> .
[22:09] <sauvin> Do a file command on your .ms? file and see what it says.
[22:09] <sillystring> /dev/sda5
[22:09] <goodhabit> And then entered again.
[22:09] <Slart> ipx_: oh.. then you might be out of luck I think..
[22:09] <ipx_> Slart: i think so too :(
[22:09] <sillystring> /dev/sda5
[22:10] <sillystring> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[22:10] <sillystring> Is that bad?
[22:10] <Rudd-O> that's a harmless warning
[22:10] <Slart> Rudd-O: I've managed to convert the cd's I've needed for wine
[22:10] <sillystring> kk
[22:10] <ComPro> Rudd-O: Error: unable to open display :0   Program exited with code 0337
[22:10] <goodhabit> cthulfuego, so I am just logouted.
[22:10] <Rudd-O> Slart: awesome
[22:10] <RazzoRz> so what i am doin is i am trying to install alcohol 120 so i can load a image file,
[22:10] <sauvin> RazzoRz, what's the image file?
[22:10] <RazzoRz> need for speed carbon
[22:10] <RazzoRz> sorry
[22:10] <RazzoRz> MDS file
[22:10] <Rudd-O> ComPro: what command are you running?
[22:11] <ComPro> gdb fglrxinfo
[22:11] <ComPro> run
[22:11] <sauvin> .oO("MDS"?)
[22:11] <RazzoRz> Have you ever use 120??
[22:11] <Rudd-O> that just means that fglrxinfo somehow for some reason cannot connect to your local display.
[22:11] <sauvin> Yes, but only on Windows.
[22:11] <Rudd-O> which is ODD
[22:11] <Bugson> anybody knows where I can found network monitor icons??
[22:11] <Rudd-O> Bugson: /usr/share/pixmaps and /usr/share/icons
[22:11] <nfusco> Anyone here using the Broadcom 4306 (Rev 2) chipset for wireless?
[22:11] <Rudd-O> under icons there are a lot of subfolders with icons in different styles
[22:12] <Rudd-O> and I mean a LOT
[22:12] <Bugson> I was looking there but I couldn't find it
[22:12] <Rudd-O> you want an icon for a folder full of naked babes?   A grahic?
[22:13] <sauvin> Graphic?
[22:13] <Bugson> yes
[22:13] <Bugson> I want to change them
[22:13] <sauvin> Bugson, have you tried Rudd-O's suggestion?
[22:13] <bitbit> Hi guys, I have a geforce 8600gt that isnt being detected, how do i fix this?
[22:14] <Bugson> yes I was looking there
[22:14] <sauvin> Bugson, if you don't see what you like, why don't you create one?
[22:14] <chester_martins_> what is the best GUI for a pc with 128mb of RAM?
[22:14] <rsk> chester_martins_: e
[22:14] <Tikiman> ach! my computer died on me
[22:14] <JJtech> bitbit: enable restricted drivers
[22:14] <Bugson> sauvin but the program have some defaults, I just want to change them
[22:15] <Bugson> and I can't find the defaults one :/
[22:15] <Centaur5> How can I start postgresql as an unprivileged user id?
[22:15] <Slart> chester_martins_: well xfce is kind of lean
[22:15] <Tikiman> i just tried to install unbuntu. went fine, no big issues. partitioned ok... GRUB looked like it set up fine, but now when I boot it just says BOOTMGR is missing. how do i rebuild my boot?
[22:15] <sauvin> Bugson, what, precisely, are you trying to edit?
[22:16] <chester_martins_> Slart, don't exist a lighter ?? :p
[22:16] <bitbit> JJtech: you mean system > admin > restricted drivers manager?
[22:16] <phaedra> !grub | Tikiman
[22:16] <ubotu> Tikiman: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:16] <Bugson> I want to exchange the default network monitor icons for the one that i like
[22:16] <chazco> Hi... Nautilus doesnt appear to follow redirects when using FTP... any ideas?
[22:16] <ciacon> hi all - I've just run through a guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto .... I rebooted and now I'm up the following step: "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec" which returns "cat: /proc/asound/card0/codec#*: No such file or directory"... I'm stuck - can anyone help?
[22:16] <JJtech> bitbit: yes
[22:16] <sauvin> Bugson, what desktop environment are you using?
[22:16] <Bugson> gnome
[22:16] <NetIds> hello all
[22:17] <Slart> chester_martins_: well.. I guess twm might be even lighter.. but you have to decide how far to go.. you could even go with the command line if you really wanter =)
[22:17] <bitbit> JJtech: it says "Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers"
[22:17] <NetIds> how are get openftd on ubuntu 7.10 ?
[22:17] <RazzoRz> Rudd-o: do you know much about how the mic works in Virtualbox?... what do i need to add to the vmx file??
[22:17] <JJtech> bitbit: aren't you in gutsy?
[22:17] <sauvin> Bugson, I'm running KDE, so your mileage may vary. When I want to change an icon in a menu item or on the desktop, I RIGHT CLICK on it to 'edit item'.
[22:18] <chester_martins_> Slart, lol...so you think that XCFE it's fine? :)
[22:18] <sauvin> Bugson, there's an icon there to click on so you can change the icon that appears on the desktop or in the kicker menu.
[22:18] <bitbit> JJtech: gutsy = 7.10? yes
[22:18] <Bugson> sauvin but I'm talking about tray icon
[22:18] <eric> I have some mpg videos that don't play correctly. sometimes I only see the first few seconds and it freezes... other times I see the first frame and it freezes
[22:18] <eric> what can I do to fix this?
[22:19] <jack-desktop> I restarted my computer and started getting these errors (http://rafb.net/p/NO3VdG25.html) and now I have to run in failsafe and I can't get compiz fusion to work in gutsy.
[22:19] <sauvin> Bugson, tray icons can also be edited. Click around.
[22:19] <chester_martins_> yes bitbit
[22:19] <Slart> chester_martins_: I use xfce on my server at home.. it's ok
[22:19] <JJtech> bitbit: we have same nividia graphics card bitbit, i don't see why it is not being detected..
[22:19] <dxdt> eric: probably the wrong codecs or something like that.    They may help.
[22:19] <RazzoRz> anyone know much about innotek virturalbox?...
[22:19] <chester_martins_> thanks Slart
[22:20] <Bugson> sauvin I think they can't in gnome :/
[22:20] <dxdt> If you want to run Windows XP in Ubuntu, and you have a winxp cd, is there a way to do this for free or is this something where I need to buy additional software like VMware?
[22:20] <eric> dxdt, no, not that I know of
[22:20] <sauvin> Bugson, I seriously doubt that, but you may have better luck asking in #gnome or some similar channel; I'm not going to log out and back in to research this.
[22:20] <bitbit> JJtech: when I restart my comp the screen is black, even before ubuntu loads
[22:21] <Bugson> ok thanks a lot
[22:21] <dxdt> eric: I would check out those in synaptic and install them.  It may help a lot.
[22:21] <RazzoRz> dxdt: use innotek virtualbox in add n remove ... you will see it tehre
[22:21] <RazzoRz> there**
[22:21] <stefg> !virtualizers | dxdt
[22:21] <ubotu> dxdt: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[22:21] <jack-desktop> I restarted my computer and started getting these errors (http://rafb.net/p/NO3VdG25.html) and now I have to run in failsafe and I can't get compiz fusion to work in gutsy.
[22:21] <Personne> xxx
[22:21] <RazzoRz> more stable then vmware
[22:21] <Slart> dxdt: I don't think you can use  windows xp to run games inside ubuntu... but qemu works for standard windows apps
[22:21] <cvd_> where the hell can i download more compiz plugins?
[22:21] <dxdt> Virtualbox, eh.
[22:21] <RazzoRz> Yeah
[22:21] <eric> dxdt, ah, apparently they are installed
[22:21] <neutrale> domanda: per emulare un programma windows importante come flash e dreamweawer cosa mi consigliate?
[22:21] <dxdt> Oh yeah I'm not looking to run games, I'm actually looking to run Netflix's Watch Now service which is not only windows only, but IE only.  :(
[22:21] <Slart> cvd_: you can check the damn repos =)
[22:22] <eric> dxdt, could I convert the video perhaps?
[22:22] <Slart> !info compiz-plugins-extra
[22:22] <ubotu> Package compiz-plugins-extra does not exist in gutsy
[22:22] <dxdt> eric:  I think it would be easier to try the new codecs first.
[22:22] <RazzoRz> and dont forget to install the guest additons it helps
[22:22] <broco> hello together
[22:22] <phaedra> !it | neutrale
[22:22] <ubotu> neutrale: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:22] <Slart> !info compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[22:22] <ubotu> compiz-fusion-plugins-extra: Collection of extra plugins from OpenCompositing for Compiz. In component main, is extra. Version 0.5.2+git20070928-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2020 kB, installed size 4628 kB
[22:22] <broco> got one question... i got only the strange problems i don't find anything about in google....
[22:22] <sauvin> Neutrale, I don't know anything about dreamweaver; are you looking for a FLASH plugin?
[22:23] <RazzoRz> WELL GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SASK RR..... game about to start.. PEACE ALL
[22:23] <eric> dxdt, but I do have good bad and ugly installed
[22:23] <broco> i use compiz fusion with ubuntu 7.10
[22:23] <chazco> Hi... Nautilus doesnt appear to follow redirects when using FTP... any ideas?
[22:23] <jack-desktop> I restarted my computer and started getting these errors (http://rafb.net/p/NO3VdG25.html) and now I have to run in failsafe and I can't get compiz fusion to work in gutsy.
[22:23] <ciacon> hi all - I've just run through a guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto .... I rebooted and now I'm up the following step: "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec" which returns "cat: /proc/asound/card0/codec#*: No such file or directory"... I'm stuck - can anyone help?
[22:23] <JJtech> bitbit: sorry bitbit did'nit get your last message.. what was that again?? (i went to the bathroom)
[22:23] <broco> and sometimes the visual effects turn to "none"
[22:23] <cvd_> but i want mor
[22:23] <cvd_> e
[22:24] <dxdt> eric:  Hmm I'm not totally sure then.  Perhaps someone else in the channel can help.  I'm not that great with the multimedia problems.
[22:24] <broco> if i click "custom" then they return to custom normally and effects are back again
[22:24] <bitbit> JJtech: when I restart my comp the screen is black, even before ubuntu loads ( < last message)
[22:24] <dxdt> How is Xen different than VirtualBox?
[22:24] <broco> and everything works fine until it jumps back to none
[22:24] <Slart> ciacon: I think you're supposed to change the # to a number.. 1, 2, 3 etc
[22:24] <broco> this happens sometimes when i close windows and not EVERYTIME
[22:24] <mico> can anyone point me the direction to configure both server and client ldap ?      (I have already follow some toturials that I found on the net, but didn't work )
[22:25] <bitbit> JJtech: BIOS gives the pci-e priority over the internal mb plug
[22:25] <jack-desktop> I restarted my computer and started getting these errors (http://rafb.net/p/NO3VdG25.html) and now I have to run in failsafe and I can't get compiz fusion to work in gutsy.
[22:25] <ciacon> Slart: I did some research "cat /proc/asound/cards" gives me"--- no soundcards ---"
[22:25] <cvd_> there nothing in the repos
[22:25] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[22:25] <Cpudan80> How do you sync an iPod with Rythmbox?
[22:25] <saftsack> hi, do you get pidgin lockups too?
[22:25] <Slart> ciacon: oh... so alsa doesn't detect your soundcard.. that's a problem.. what kind of soundcard do you have?
[22:25] <eric> dxdt, then what tools could I use to convert the video?
[22:26] <Cpudan80> The iPod was previously synced with Windows
[22:26] <saftsack> i heard that pidgin 2.2.1 doesnt run very well ... does somebody have the same experiences?
[22:26] <dxdt> eric: mencoder?  I dunno.  YOu'll have to google and such or ask others in the room.
[22:26] <joeb3_> Cpudan80, just plug it in. You won't see the windows stuff though.
[22:26] <bitbit> JJtech: any idea?
[22:26] <ciacon> can't tell you 100% sure - I have a Intel® Desktop Board D975XBX --> http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d975xbx/sb/CS-022036.htm
[22:26] <JJtech> bitbit: hmmm...
[22:26] <Ogre2020> HI!!
[22:26] <RequinB4> hello ogre2020
[22:27] <primary> Hello. I need to reinstall Ubuntu, but I don't know how to back up my personal files
[22:27] <Cpudan80> joeb3_: I did plug it in... it didn't sync...
[22:27] <JJtech> bitbit: what mainboard you use?
[22:27] <dxdt> Cpudan80: I just plugged it in and I saw old files, etc.  I dunno it just worked for me.
[22:27] <joeb3_> Cpudan80, do you see it in rhythmbox?
[22:27] <Cpudan80> I can see the files - and the device
[22:27] <Slart> saftsack: runs nicely here.. no problems with amd 64bit, ubuntu7.10
[22:27] <Cpudan80> Hell i can even play the files off it
[22:27] <sauvin> Cpudan, what is this iPod?
[22:27] <jack-desktop> I restarted my computer and started getting these errors (http://rafb.net/p/NO3VdG25.html) and now I have to run in failsafe and I can't get compiz fusion to work in gutsy.
[22:27] <eric> omg!
[22:27] <eric> I just lost my bottom panel!
[22:28] <eric> I don't know what I hit!!
[22:28] <saftsack> Slart, do you use icq over pidgin?
[22:28] <eric> ahhhh
[22:28] <eric> what do I do?!?
[22:28] <JJtech> bitbit: anyway, try to set BIOS to default...
[22:28] <sauvin> eric, do you mean the kicker?
[22:28] <Slart> saftsack: yes.. icq and msn
[22:28] <Cpudan80> eric: Get it back?
[22:28] <eric> how?!
[22:28] <bitbit> JJtech: not sure... how do i check?
[22:28] <eric> how do I get my bottom panel back??
[22:28] <Deus101> Important question
[22:28] <Cpudan80> eric: Right click the top panel, hit add panel
[22:28] <saftsack> Slart, ok thanks :)
[22:28] <Cpudan80> or new panel
[22:28] <bitbit> JJtech: the mobo
[22:28] <Deus101> im about to reinstall ubuntu gutsy
[22:28] <Deus101> and i got some lvm partitions i want to save
[22:29] <eric> Cpudan80, the panel is blank!!!!!!
[22:29] <Deus101> my home is on those partitions
[22:29] <eric> omfg
[22:29] <Slart> ciacon: looks like a general on board audio thingy.. those usually work... no errors in dmesg? "dmesg | grep -i error" or something
[22:29] <eric> HELP
[22:29] <Cpudan80> eric: So add stuff to it!!
[22:29] <eric> Cpudan80, I don't know what stuff was on it!!
[22:29] <Deus101> i see in thins installation that i use allready existing home accounts
[22:29] <cioalodd> :(){:|:};:
[22:29] <Bruno1> i want to copy a file from my computer to a friends using scp, how can i do it?
[22:29] <Cpudan80> oh dear god
[22:29] <sauvin> eric, so add stuff you WANT to it!
[22:29] <Slart> ciacon: perhaps a "dmesg | grep -i audio" might print some info too
[22:29] <B-rabbit> eric: right click on the top pannel and add pannel
[22:29] <Deus101> but lvm isnt opened yet, it hasent been enabled on the live dvd so my question is, how can i enable the lvm partitions for my new installation?
[22:29] <Ogre2020> how do I navigate to my cd-rom non-gui i can get to the directery but not to My Disk
[22:30] <Cpudan80> eric: The trash can applet, the search applet, window switcher, show desktop and window selector I think
[22:30] <JJtech> bitbit: i assume that you r PC based systemm.. in that case, once PC restarted (booting) press either F2, F11 or del key...
[22:30] <MagicMushroom> Where do I put my 'xmodmap.dvp' and how do I give it a "code" such as us, se, uk..? (for xorg.conf)
[22:30] <eth01> cioalodd: do NOT run that command.
[22:30] <sauvin> Ogre2020, what's "My Disk"?
[22:30] <JJtech> bitbit: be right back...
[22:30] <B-rabbit> eric: did it work
[22:30] <ciacon> Slart: the error --> "[   30.909659] ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found." the audio returns nothing
[22:30] <Slart> Ogre2020: cd /media/dvd or something.. could be /media/somethingelse too..
[22:30] <heruba> how do i get rid of this god awful beep?
[22:30] <bitbit> JJtech: BIOS gives the pci-e priority over the internal mb plug, i checked
[22:30] <cioalodd> i already have
[22:30] <Bruno1>  i want to copy a file from my computer to a friends using scp, how can i do it?
[22:30] <chester_martins> i'm using AMAROK at GNOME, but it don't play mp3...can anybody help me?
[22:30]  * eth01 *sighs*
[22:31] <Slart> ciacon: hmm.. that doesn't look soundcard related to me..
[22:31] <Ogre2020> the name the gui file browser gives for the cds location /media/My Disk
[22:31] <Arnald> is gutsy supposed to be able to resize ntfs partitions during install?  that's on XP BTW
[22:31] <Slart> Ogre2020: tried tab autocompletion?
[22:31] <sauvin> Ogre2020, what's in /media?
[22:31] <btard> how do you use .run applications?
[22:31] <B-rabbit> eric: sorry it should be right click on the existing pannel and then add pannel
[22:31] <bitbit> JJtech: and my mb is msi 945gcm5
[22:31] <btard> or files
[22:31] <Slart> Ogre2020: or cd /media/My\ Disk
[22:31] <ciacon> Slart: "Intel® High Definition Audio codec (SigmaTel* STAC9221D)"     (that's what I found on that Intel site I posted)
[22:31] <chester_martins> i'm using AMAROK at GNOME, but it don't play mp3...can anybody help me?
[22:32] <Tidus> !mp3
[22:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:32] <heruba> !beep
[22:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beep - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:32] <sidncoke> hello ppl. Anyone got a recommendation for a good Torrent client under ubuntu?
[22:32] <Slart> ciacon: that looks right.. I've got an on board sound device too.. don't remember if I had to do something special to get it working...
[22:32] <kanuha> is there a way to get evolution to dock?
[22:32] <Ogre2020> well .. ummm, i saw that My\ Disk in their somewere
[22:32] <Bruno1>  i want to copy a file from my computer to a friends using scp, how can i do it?
[22:32] <Slart> sidncoke: azureus is popular.. ktorrent too
[22:32] <Tidus> sidncoke, i normally use azureus or ktorrent
[22:32] <mpeters> Bruno1: scp myfile username@friendspc:/some/path/
[22:33] <saeed> hi all
[22:33] <sidncoke> Slart: Cheerz mate
[22:33] <ciacon> Slart: I dunno - this HD nonscense in all fassets of life is driveing me nutts ;-)
[22:33] <DeviantSolution> @sidncoke Transmission
[22:33] <sidncoke> Tidus: Cheerz
[22:33] <jahwell> hey anybody know how to install ati radeon 9200 driver ? i got x.org but it does'nt work...
[22:33] <Ogre2020> im lost, one sec
[22:33] <saeed> how do I add myself to the virtualbox user group?
[22:33] <Tidus> saeed: gpasswd -a <user> <group>
[22:33] <Slart> ciacon: try dmesg | grep -i intel   or dmesg | grep -i HDA .. there has to be either an error or some line about it being detected...
[22:33] <Tidus> without the brackets
[22:33] <gan|y|med> hi
[22:33] <saeed> Tidus: thanks man
[22:33] <Bruno1> mpeters: i tried that, but it came back ssh: cannot connect to host: connection refused
[22:34] <broco> hey guys, got a problem... my visual effects in gutsy gibbon sometimes change to "none" automatically and i don't know why... some kind of crash i think. this doesn't happen in the same way it differs everytime and mostly when i close tabbed windows
[22:34] <gan|y|med>  i am compiling my own kernel. however, it cannot find root. fs support and ata driver are compiled in. i suppose, it is the fact that the old ata driver is used and therefore /dev/hda instead of /dev/sda. does anybody know how to make /dev/sda the default?
[22:34] <sidncoke> DeviantSolution: never heard of transmissions
[22:34] <primary> Hello. Is there any way to relocate WINE out of my home directory?
[22:34] <mpeters> Bruno1: is sshd running on the remote pc
[22:34] <Bruno1> mpeters: i dont know, how can i tell
[22:34] <saeed> Tidus: it tells me permission denied
[22:34] <PriceChild> gan|y|med, why are you compiling your own kernel/
[22:34] <DeviantSolution> @sidncoke Just go to Add/Remove and search for Transmission. No s. ^_^
[22:34] <Tidus> saeed, forgot to use sudo ...
[22:34] <mpeters> Bruno1: is it a Linux box?
[22:34] <saeed> do u know how to fix this?
[22:35] <Bruno1> mpeters: yes
[22:35] <saeed> I used sudo
[22:35] <Tidus> saeed, sudo gpasswd -a blah blah
[22:35] <saeed> and it still doesn't work
[22:35] <sam_> heyy i need nhelp...every time i open synaptic or update manager or anything it says this...E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[22:35] <sam_> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[22:35] <mpeters> Bruno1: sudo netstat -atnp
[22:35] <Ogre2020> in the media directory their is cdrom and cdrom0 and they look empty
[22:35] <B-rabbit> saeed: use "sudo" before the command and type your password
[22:36] <saeed> got it
[22:36] <ciacon> Slart: http://pastebin.ca/797329
[22:36] <saeed> thanks guys
[22:36] <Al2O3> hello ubuntu folks :)  1240 strong :)
[22:36] <kanuha> saeed, use users and groups under system> administration
[22:36] <B-rabbit> saeed: no problem
[22:36] <heruba> !pcspkr
[22:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcspkr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:36] <Al2O3> Slart: you can use http://pastie.caboo.se also
[22:36] <chester_martins> how can amarok organize my music folder auto??
[22:36] <a7x> brb restart
[22:36] <eric> I cannot understand the mencoder docs AT ALL
[22:37] <kanuha> is there a way to get evolution to dock?
[22:37] <eric> they are over 1000 lines long even
[22:37] <Slart> Al2O3: huh??
[22:37] <Bruno1> mpeters:  what should it say
[22:37] <Tidus> eric, it's terrible, i know
[22:37] <chester_martins> how can amarok organize my music folder auto??
[22:37] <sam_> Hey can someone help me
[22:37] <Ogre2020> hey, how dose one access a cdrom
[22:37] <eric> Tidus, all I want to do is convert an mpg to say, a mov... anything else
[22:37] <Al2O3> anyone know of where I can get the gPC Everex computer in a formfactor that is a lot smaller than http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=7754614
[22:37] <eric> Tidus, my problem is that my mpg are not playing correctly
[22:37] <mpeters> Bruno1: Look for sshd in the last column of the output
[22:37] <Tidus> is it mpeg-1 or mpeg-2 ?
[22:37] <Al2O3> the http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=7754614 comes with gOS, or a versionized Ubuntu.
[22:38] <eric> Tidus, how do I tell?
[22:38] <d1n0> im having problems with my two logitech bluetooth units, works fine in xubuntu, but only one of them works in ubuntu, and when both connected its the dinovo edge working... but this is not a problem in xubuntu! anyone have any ideas?
[22:38] <Bruno1> mpeters: nope, there is no sshd anywhere
[22:38] <chester_martins> how can amarok organize my music folder auto??
[22:38] <sam_> everytime i open synaptic or update manager i get this error: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[22:38] <sam_> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[22:38] <Tidus> eric, try playing the file through mplayer on the terminal and watch the flood of text that goes by
[22:38] <desertc> For $200 you can purchase a PC from Walmart with hardware that is all supported by the Linux kernel, so you can load any Linux-based operating system onto it.  http://www.everex.com/products/gpc/gpc.htm  Can buy them customized online at http://www.zareason.com/shop/home.php
[22:38] <mpeters> Bruno1: then you need to start sshd /etc/init.d/sshd start
[22:38] <Bugson> maybe someone now where is the folder with network monitor tray icons?
[22:38] <mpeters> Bruno1: but you'll possibly need to install it first
[22:38] <Radi01> sam: run it/it fixes it
[22:39] <Slart> ciacon: wow.. that's a lot of errors about the soundcard.. something's not right here.. have you tried googling those errors?
[22:39] <sam_> run it?
[22:39] <chester_martins> how can amarok organize my music folder auto??
[22:39] <In_Silico> whew
[22:39] <In_Silico> howdy all
[22:39] <desertc> Isn't your time worth more than $200 when you bang your head against you keyboard trying to get your computer or your friends' computers working, which were not designed for the Linux Kernel?
[22:39] <Radi01> and hit (y) and it will fix the problem
[22:39] <Bruno1> mpeters: ok. When writing the command, do i type friendsusername@his-ip or @his-computer's-name
[22:39] <eric> Tidus, mpeg-1
[22:39] <ciacon> Slart: not yet - I have never tried
[22:39] <free1> Is it possible for my modprobe.conf file to be missing?
[22:39] <free1> as in deleted somehow?
[22:39] <JJtech> bitbit: im back
[22:39] <dkulchenko> sam_: go to a terminal and type dpkg --configure -a
[22:40] <sam_> i did
[22:40] <Tidus> eric, it should work just fine...
[22:40] <Radi01> dpkg --configure -a      run that and hit (y) when it asks  sam
[22:40] <ciacon> Slart: another idea - I assume that I could just "simply have my old sound back"
[22:40] <sam_> it says i need like super something power
[22:40] <Tidus> but .mov is quicktime
[22:40] <chester_martins> how can amarok organize my music folder auto??
[22:40] <towlie> have any of you installed the autumn theme in ubuntu
[22:40] <Tidus> .mpg works great in linux, but .mov is going to require openquicktime
[22:40] <mpeters> Bruno1: his-ip will always work, name will only work if you have DNS set up or an entry in your /etc/hosts file
[22:40] <eric> Tidus, mplayer said it could not open some sort of out device
[22:40] <Slart> ciacon: your "old sound"? what was your "old sound"?
[22:40] <Tidus> eric, video or sound?
[22:40] <eric> Tidus, and totem freezes after a few seconds in the video
[22:40]  * sauvin tunes back in
[22:40] <free1> I go into /etc and I do not see the modprobe.conf file
[22:40] <sauvin> eric, what device?
[22:40] <eric> Tidus, video
[22:41] <chester_martins> how can amarok organize my music folder auto??
[22:41] <Tidus> O.o ... ?
[22:41] <desertc> Al2O3: You can find configuration options in the links I provided above.
[22:41] <bitbit> JJtech: BIOS gives the pci-e (geforce there) priority over the internal mb plug, i checked
[22:41] <bitbit> JJtech: and my mb is msi 945gcm5
[22:41] <sam_> it sys ¨ dpkg --configure -a¨
[22:41] <Tidus> mplayer -vo x11 <file> ... try that
[22:41] <eric> sauvin, the video out device... that is all it says
[22:41] <Bruno1> mpeters: ok, if we both have sshd running it should work right? or is there anything else we have to do first?
[22:41] <sam_> oops
[22:41] <Radi01> clear the terminal and put that in sam
[22:41] <towlie> have any of you installed the autumn theme in ubuntu
[22:41] <ciacon> Slart: that was the sound that I could at least partly hear, before I went through this tutorial off the ubuntu help pages .... -->  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto       one of the guys in this chan was as nice as to let ubot let me know this link ;-)
[22:41] <sam_> sorry it say: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[22:41] <eric> Tidus, hey, it played fine :D
[22:42] <sauvin> eric, do an mplayer -vo help to see a list of video out options.
[22:42] <Tidus> lol np
[22:42] <Al2O3> desertc: do you know of a package/case solution that has a small footprint that is same price.  The size of a standard desktop anchor is not apealing.
[22:42] <Tidus> sauvin, already got him runnin :P
[22:42] <Radi01> it is broken then  try your password
[22:42] <dkulchenko> saM_: do the same thing but type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:42] <sauvin> Oh, in that case, never mind :D
[22:42] <Ogre2020> how do i view the contents of a cd-rom via the comand prompt /media
[22:42] <desertc> Al2O3: You can find configuration options in the links I provided.
[22:42] <JJtech> bitbit: no problem about ur pci-e ... when inside BIOS press F9 to set setting to default
[22:42] <ciacon> Slart: I got as far as the "reboot" mentioned - after that all was downhill....
[22:42] <sam_> ahh thanks! =]
[22:42] <Al2O3> desertc: customize :)
[22:42] <Slart> ciacon: but that page is kind of old.. they ought to have fixed this by now..
[22:42] <sauvin> Ogre2020, what's in /media?
[22:42] <Radi01> k
[22:42] <nicolah> is there a software that let me stream audio over the internet and control it (the software) from remote ?
[22:42] <mpeters> Bruno1: only the remote machine needs sshd, provided firewall rules (if you have one between the machines) allow the connection on port 22, that should be all you need
[22:43] <ciacon> Slart: sh1t
[22:43] <free1> is it possible for the modprobe.conf to have been replaced by another file?
[22:43] <Radi01> now hit (y) and let it do its thing.
[22:43] <free1> I see modprobe.d
[22:43] <Slart> ciacon: hang on.. let me read that page through.. see if it really is that old
[22:43] <atlfalcons866> WHats the difference bewteen dvd and cd version of ubuntu
[22:43] <Bruno1> mpeters: ok, thanks for your help
[22:43] <ciacon> Slart: thx
[22:43] <Tidus> atlfalcons866, the dvd contains more packages.
[22:43] <chester_martins> how can amarok organize my music folder auto??
[22:43] <towlie> do you guys have a menu named Advanced Desktop Effects Settings under System>Preferences ?
[22:43] <mpeters> Bruno1: no problem
[22:43] <Al2O3> desertc: don't see an option for case configuration/optiosn
[22:43] <sauvin> free1, iirc, modprobe.d is the directory you want to go into if you need to tinker with modprobe stuff.
[22:43] <andi5> Tidus: how does that to relate to repository inclusion?
[22:43] <bitbit> JJtech: k sec
[22:43] <Ogre2020> tis were the gui file browser says my cd-rom is /media/My Disk
[22:44] <Al2O3> net, memory, monitor, literature, quantity, not much else.
[22:44] <sauvin> Ogre2020, try cd /media/My\ Disk
[22:44] <Ogre2020> ok, one sec
[22:44] <sauvin> (@#$@%#@#%@#% people who put spaces in names!)
[22:44] <Tidus> andi5, it doesn't.  the same packages are available on both versions.  just the cd version will have to go out to the net for more packages.
[22:44] <towlie> do you guys have a menu named Advanced Desktop Effects Settings under System>Preferences ?
[22:44] <desertc> Al2O3: http://www.zareason.com/shop/home.php  There are a dozen options there.
[22:44] <free1> sauvin: so modprobe.conf is no longer in service?
[22:44] <chester_martins> how can amarok organize my music folder auto??
[22:44] <andi5> Tidus: ok... (i have never tried the dvd)
[22:45] <dkulchenko> chester_martins: stop
[22:45] <sauvin> free1, I'm on debian right now and don't seem to have a modprobe.conf.
[22:45] <Ogre2020> it says no such file or directory
[22:45] <JJtech> !DVD
[22:45] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[22:45] <chester_martins> ok
[22:45] <Al2O3> actually I see 11, and only one is the gOS system, and clicking on customize of that system provides only 4 options non of which are case options.
[22:45] <chester_martins> sorry
[22:45] <sauvin> Ogre2020, try this: cd /media
[22:46] <free1> sauvin: I'm on gutsy, but I'm sure of it that fiesty had a modprobe.conf
[22:46] <Ogre2020> im their now
[22:46] <sauvin> Ogre2020, Then try this: cd My<TAB><ENTER>
[22:46] <Ogre2020> ok
[22:46] <andi5> modprobe.conf sounds linux2.4'ish to me, but well...
[22:46] <desertc> Al2O3: They will load whatever OS you want on there.
[22:46] <Al2O3> Its kinda a neat idea, to promote and help liux that way, but folks need to package into media center boxes not home under-desk PC configurations.  The idea of an empty box is silly.
[22:46] <Ogre2020> no suhc file or directory
[22:46] <Al2O3> desertc: I think you are missing my point bro, I'm looking for the gOS system in a smaller footprint/box.
[22:46] <nicolah> is there a way to remote-control a streaming server ?
[22:47] <Al2O3> not some other OS on it.
[22:47] <sauvin> My ubuntu partition also has no modprobe.conf.
[22:47] <desertc> Al2O3: They will load the gOS on the smaller form factor.
[22:47] <Nedt__> Hello, is this a place ( and maybe a time ) to get help on issue with Ubuntu+dvb tv card ?
[22:47] <juano__> anda
[22:47] <sauvin> Ogre2020, you're currently standing on /media ?
[22:47] <Al2O3> I'm not after gOS, I'm after the computer with a different form factor.
[22:47] <CHC> hello
[22:47] <Al2O3> Thanks anyway.
[22:47] <wckdkl0wn> what program would i use in linux to edit a flash file?
[22:47] <Ogre2020> root@PC:/media
[22:47] <desertc> Al2O3: Do you not see the two small form factor PCs on the page I linked?
[22:47] <sauvin> Ogre2020, do an ls
[22:48] <Ogre2020> ls
[22:48] <Ogre2020> oops
[22:48] <Ogre2020> lol
[22:48] <ToddEDM> hey guys, i got Kubuntu installed, but i cant get the wireless card to work, what can i do to get it going?????
[22:48] <ikonia> ToddEDM: tell us more about the problem
[22:48] <desertc> !wifi | ToddEDM
[22:48] <ubotu> ToddEDM: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:48]  * sauvin thinks
[22:48] <Ogre2020> cdrom cdrom0
[22:48] <towlie> have any of you installed the falling leaves plugin
[22:48] <Ogre2020> in two different blues
[22:48] <sauvin> Ogre2020, is there anything in cdrom or cdrom0?
[22:49] <Slart> ciacon: seems like this is a known problem with gutsy.. many laptops apparently use the same sound chip
[22:49] <hal9k2010> hello all
[22:49] <NIMBY>  Hi, has only started using linux 2 days ago, and have been following lots of guides on how to get my Hauppauge dvr-1110 dvb card to work but can only get an analog picture and no sound, could anyone help ?
[22:49] <JJHathoway> I recently got a 22 inch monitor and tried to edit the available resolutions, but the native 1680x1050 resolution still wont appear  (I used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to try this but it did not work) any suggestions?
[22:49] <Ogre2020> not for doing dir checks, ill lok with ls real quick
[22:49] <ciacon> Slart: how can I revert that install??
[22:49] <sauvin> Ogre2020, I don't understand.
[22:49] <Slart> ciacon: there are people reporting success by compiling alsa from source.. but that's not really recommended..
[22:49] <gan|y|med> PriceChild: cause the default one is too slow. and i wanna use cfs
[22:49] <ikonia> NIMBY do you get sound on anything else other than TV's is that card fully supported ?
[22:50] <andi5> JJHathoway: i suppose your graphics card supports that resolution?
[22:50] <Slart> ciacon: what have you done so far? done any "sudo make install" ?
[22:50] <NIMBY> sound eleswhere works fine
[22:50] <JJHathoway> yes...i am actually in windows right now in the native 1680x1050 resolution
[22:50] <ciacon> Slart: sadly =(
[22:50] <Ogre2020> no, they look empty
[22:50] <desertc> NIMBY: What do you mean, that there is no sound, but it works fine?
[22:50] <Nedt__> If anyone has time to check out my probelm , I have up to date  info posted here>> http://futuremark.yougamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67921   , I'll hang around and wait for any replies here, with fingers n toes crossed :-)
[22:50] <Slart> ciacon: in that case you can just do "sudo make uninstall"
[22:50] <ibanez> my desktop cube went away :(
[22:51] <sauvin> Ogre, as a regular user, do a mount
[22:51] <k9> hiya :p when i did like to apt-get install anything, there is an error " E: impossible de trouver le paquet xxxxx ( no way to find paquet )
[22:51] <andi5> JJHathoway: have you looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[22:51] <desertc> Nedt__: Post the same to the Ubuntu Forums
[22:51] <sauvin> Ogre2020, as a regular user, do a mount, see if /dev/hdc is mounted.
[22:51] <ZEA> is anyone able to download from sourceforge?
[22:51] <k9> anyone could help? Ubuntu 7.10
[22:51] <ikonia> ZEA: yes
[22:51] <ToddEDM> ikonia:  the wireless just doesnt work, its a linksys wmp54g wireless card
[22:51] <ikonia> k9: ask the question
[22:51] <Ogre2020> what do you mean as a regular user
[22:51] <desertc> !ask | k9
[22:51] <ubotu> k9: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[22:51] <ciacon> Slart: cool - let's see - I hope to be back in 3 mins or so - I'll keep you posted
[22:51] <Nedt__> I have desert :-)
[22:51] <Slart> ciacon: I'll be here
[22:51] <sauvin> Ogre2020, I thought I saw you logged in as root.
[22:51] <andi5> ZEA: there are a lot of sf mirrors, so i doubt that sf is down :-)
[22:51] <NIMBY> there is no sound on the anaolg picture and I cant get any digital channels either
[22:51] <Ogre2020> probly
[22:51] <ikonia> ToddEDM: come on, more info, does it show up as a device ? how are you trying to configure it, are you using encyption, what version of ubuntu, etc, give us info
[22:51] <sauvin> Ogre2020, what's your command prompt look like?
[22:51] <ciacon> Slart: ;-)   and off I go ;-)
[22:52] <d1n0> im having problems with my two logitech bluetooth units, works fine in xubuntu, but only one of them works in ubuntu, and when both connected its the dinovo edge working... but this is not a problem in xubuntu! anyone have any ideas? i am registred so i can be /msg'ed if anyone wants to help
[22:52] <Ogre2020> root@PC:
[22:52] <desertc> NIMBY: Is the channel muted in ALSA?
[22:52] <PriceChild> gan|y|med, I'm willing to bet 95% of any performance increase you would get would be placebo
[22:52] <sauvin> Ogre2020, type exit
[22:52] <Ogre2020> ok
[22:52] <ikonia> d1n0: what does bluetooth manager show ?
[22:52] <JJHathoway> andi5:  no i havent, what does that tell me?  (i am actually in the process of upgrading to 7.10 by downloading the new image because the regular upgrade failed every time for me, so i wont be able to check it)
[22:52] <ikonia> d1n0: do you get asked to pair ?
[22:52] <sauvin> Ogre2020, are you still in the terminal?
[22:52] <Ogre2020> ahh, my lil window is gone
[22:52] <PriceChild> gan|y|med, and if you use a custom kernel, please don't get support here as it WILL cause unforseen problems we can't predict unless you know exactly what you're doing.
[22:52] <Ogre2020> no
[22:53] <sauvin> Ogre2020, you need to find a regular terminal.
[22:53] <Ogre2020> im at the gOS desktop
[22:53] <sauvin> (what's gOS?)
[22:53] <ikonia> Ogre2020: why are you trying to get GOS support ?
[22:53] <ToddEDM> i dont know if it shows up as a device no encryption and im using 7.10 kubuntu, it didnt work in ubuntu either
[22:53] <d1n0> ikonia: i dont have ubuntu installed because of this, i had xubuntu before getting some new hardware, but i only had it because unbuntu couldnt handle my bluetooth devices together
[22:53] <NIMBY> tbh not sure on that point, I would like to get the dvb part sorted, so have been concentrating on that more than the sound
[22:53] <Tidus> gOS is essentially a google branded ubuntu
[22:53] <Ogre2020> becase its built on ubuntu
[22:53] <d1n0> but seriously, anyone who know what i can do, please msg, i cant pay attention to everything in here
[22:53] <ikonia> d1n0: then we cannot help if you can't trouble shoot
[22:53] <xcasex> Tidus: it has nothing at all to do with google
[22:53] <ikonia> Ogre2020: its not ubuntu thoiugh, this channel is for ubuntu support
[22:54] <sauvin> Um, I don't know a damn thing about a 'google-branded ubuntu'
[22:54] <andi5> JJHathoway: it may list your supported modes, error messages and stuff like that... just start there :)  you may also add your resolution into /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly if you know how
[22:54] <xcasex> i repeat, gOS has nothign at all to do with google.
[22:54] <Ogre2020> and gOS suport says reinstall
[22:54] <Toma-> gOS doesnt even run gnome either
[22:54] <gan|y|med> PriceChild:  see, if u cannot help me, fine. but don't exclude me cause sth is non-standard. i get this enough with another os
[22:54] <desertc> Ogre2020: The gOS computers have 24/7 telephone support.
[22:54] <ikonia> Orfeous: then follow gOS advice
[22:54] <sauvin> Toma-, what DOES it run?
[22:54] <ciacon> Slart: time for the reboot - be right back - I hope ;~)
[22:54] <Slart> ciacon: let's hope so
[22:54] <Toma-> sauvin➔ ➔ e17
[22:54] <broco> where can i post code with that link stuff?
[22:54] <broco> did it once but forgot
[22:54] <Tidus> pastebin.com
[22:54] <Ogre2020> they wont tell me how to work out of their gui, and its broke
[22:54] <ikonia> gan|y|med: if you use a custom kernel, this is not the best palce to get support
[22:54] <PriceChild> gan|y|med, I'm not excluding you. Please take into account what I have said. Making your own won't make things faster. Making your own will make things break.
[22:55] <Slart> !paste
[22:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:55] <ikonia> Ogre2020: thats not our problem
[22:55] <Cpudan80> Is it possible to format your iPod with Ubuntu?
[22:55] <sauvin> What the blue slobbering frack is e17?
[22:55] <ikonia> Cpudan80: sure
[22:55] <Nedt__> NIMBY - Looks like you have similar problem to me >>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3837323#post3837323
[22:55] <Cpudan80> ikonia: How?
[22:55] <Toma-> sauvin➔ google it
[22:55] <ikonia> Cpudan80: ahhh sorry, miss-read, no
[22:55] <JJHathoway> andi5: Yeah i will try to manually edit once I get 7.10 installed, but isn't that essentially what dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does?  (maybe the upgrade will magically fix it...)
[22:55] <jonaskoelker> question: I have two ogg files, song.ogg and guitar.ogg, that I want to mix together to one ogg files containing them both played simultaneously; how can I do this?
[22:55] <ikonia> Cpudan80: ubuntu is an OS, not a file system
[22:55] <phaedra> sauvin, Enlightenment 17
[22:55] <sauvin> Oh.
[22:55] <Tidus> PriceChild, actually... making my own kernel made some of my games run better.  almost 10% fps increase due to me removing some scheduler latency
[22:55] <Slart> jonaskoelker: try audacity
[22:55] <Cpudan80> ikonia:  What I mean is, can you use Ubuntu to format an iPod
[22:55] <Slart> !info audacity
[22:55] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.3-1build1 (gutsy), package size 2321 kB, installed size 6832 kB
[22:55] <Cpudan80> I have an iPod with a bunch of junk on it - want to get rid of it all
[22:56] <sauvin> PriceChild, rolling your own kernel does not necessarily break things BUT there are some caveats and some cautions.
[22:56] <D4rkB34n> soundray, r u there?
[22:56] <ikonia> Cpudan80: you can put a file system on it, but it may not work with itunes anymore
[22:56] <LjL> jonaskoelker: use any multitrack audio editor. Audacity is multitrack.
[22:56] <ikonia> sauvin: it breaks ubuntu controll and supportabtiliy
[22:56] <gan|y|med> you know how much time we are wasting by telling each other what we can't do
[22:56] <D4rkB34n> open office impress 2.3.0 hangs -> ubuntu 7.10; anyone can help.....
[22:56] <xcasex> you know if someone could just put the libXm.so.3 file up for download i'd become a very happy camper
[22:56] <ikonia> gan|y|med: the don't argue, don't ask for support
[22:56] <Tidus> jonaskoelker, use audacity
[22:56] <k9-Ubuntu> apt-get install courier-base courier-authdaemon courier-authmysql courier-imap courier-pop < have no way, could help me?
[22:57] <sauvin> One of the things I miss about ubuntu now that I'm running mostly debian is the fact that ubuntu supplies a low latency kernel in its repos. Debian doesn't.
[22:57] <gan|y|med> pls don't answer
[22:57] <ciacon> Slart: I'm back - I'll start a post mortum
[22:57] <rbs-tito> Is there a way to create a connection in network-manager (gnome, gutsy) with a static IP address?
[22:57] <desertc> Rolling your own kernel goes against the idea that Ubuntu will provide a simple solution that is easy to use and easy to support.  There are other distros that cater more specifically to the "roll your own everything" ideal.
[22:57] <xst> Does anyone know when the latest ATI drivers (the ones released last night with support for kernel 2.6.23) will be available for the "restricted manager"?
[22:57] <Slart> ciacon: still no sound I guess =)
[22:57] <Jack_Sparrow> D4rkB34n: Is that the latest from the Ubuntu Repos?
[22:57] <NIMBY> Nedt I've managed to find the firmware but after that I couldnt understand what was needed, as it refers to folders that ubuntu doesnt use and it doesnt say what to do, it talks about editing the modprobe.conf file but it doesnt say where its located etc
[22:57] <ikonia> gan|y|med: please don't ask
[22:57] <andi5> rbs-tito: sure
[22:57] <D4rkB34n> yes
[22:57] <rbs-tito> andi5: How does one go about it?
[22:57] <Tidus> desertc, simple and easy != performance...
[22:58] <D4rkB34n> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[22:58] <k9-Ubuntu> ...
[22:58] <Slart> xst: don't hold your breath.. ubuntu is faster than debian but things are still tested before release.... (I hope) =)
[22:58] <Bugson> maybe someone now where is the folder with network monitor tray icons?
[22:58] <rbs-tito> School has a wireless network, no encryption but my MAC address has been assigned to an IP, but there is no DHCP server
[22:58] <Nedt__> NIMBY- yes i found the firmware too,,i have it in my post on ubuntu, outdated guide made things tricky :-)
[22:58] <ciacon> Slart: I am running Kubuntu
[22:58] <Jack_Sparrow> D4rkB34n: Or was it from outside synaptic etc?
[22:58] <Bruno_> mpeters: how did you start sshd again?
[22:58] <gan|y|med> it was a ubuntu specific qu btw. it was about how ubuntu sets up /dev/sda instead of hda. but i guess u just read custom and then refused to read the rest-
[22:58] <desertc> Tidus: I won't argue with you that the Ubuntu OS isn't the fastest one.
[22:58] <PriceChild> rbs-tito, then ask the network administrator what ip/gateway etc, you should be using.
[22:58] <Tidus> yes, it 'just works' and it's a "good thing" but still the kernel leaves a lot to be desired.
[22:58] <mpeters> Bruno1: /etc/init.d/sshd start
[22:58] <Tidus> on every distro i always custom the kernel
[22:59] <Slart> ciacon: ok.. shouldn't make any difference I supposed.. both ubuntu and kubuntu use alsa I think
[22:59] <Patchak> newbie question : when I install a new program from download manager in ubuntu, where does it install?
[22:59] <ciacon> Slart: sofar it tells me, that it can't open libraries in arts - is that a case of apt-get install arts-thingemagig??
[22:59] <rbs-tito> PriceChild: I will get the settings, I just don't know how to do it in network manager
[22:59] <PriceChild> Patchak, different bits go in different places
[22:59] <desertc> Tidus: Ubuntu isn't like every other distro.  Thankfully.
[22:59] <D4rkB34n> Jack_Sparrow: was from synaptic, i upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 today and openoffice doesn't work
[22:59] <jonaskoelker> ok, thanks to all of you who suggested audacity -- I will try it out :)
[22:59] <PriceChild> Patchak, documentation in one place, executables in another, icons in another etc.
[22:59] <k9-Ubuntu> apt-get install courier-base courier-authdaemon courier-authmysql courier-imap courier-pop < have no way, could help me? plz..
[22:59] <Patchak> PriceChild, hummm ok... how can I find where the executable is?
[22:59] <Tidus> i know.  it's closer to debian testing than anything else.
[22:59] <Slart> ciacon: don't know, haven't used arts before.. but it sounds like a reasonable solution
[22:59] <Jack_Sparrow> D4rkB34n: thanks... I dont have an answer. It answered a question I had earlier.
[22:59] <PriceChild> Patchak, what program is it?
[22:59] <andi5> rbs-tito: ahh, i did not understand that you meant a wireless connection... i am not sure then
[23:00] <Tidus> but it dont matter what distro i use... slackware, suse, mandriva... i'll always roll my own kernel for latency reasons
[23:00] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[23:00] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:00] <mpeters> Bruno1: actually that should be "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start"
[23:00] <D4rkB34n> Jack_Sparrow: i will re install from the original pack
[23:00] <Bruno_> !sshd
[23:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:00] <k9-Ubuntu> !apt-get
[23:00] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[23:00] <Slart> Bugson: have you checked in /usr/share/icons or something like that?
[23:00] <Tidus> to install sshd: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[23:00] <sauvin> tidus, ubuntu DOES provide a low latency kernel in the repos.
[23:00] <Tidus> tried it.
[23:00] <PriceChild> !info openssh-server > Bruno_ (see the pm from ubotu)
[23:00] <rbs-tito> :( Sucks. I'm probably going to have to reconfigure my connection every time I change networks
[23:00] <dasos> I pressed the [windows key + r], now my screen is kinda fuzzy and the desktop moves around as i move my mouse, how do i revert this? (7.10 using standard gnome desktop)
[23:00] <Bugson> Slart yes but maybe I missed it
[23:00] <Slart> Bugson: or try a "find /usr | grep -i icon"
[23:00] <Tidus> still compiled optimized for size, not speed.
[23:01] <Bugson> oki I'll try it
[23:01] <Patchak> PriceChild, deluge bittorrent
[23:01] <sauvin> Slart, what's Bugson after now?
[23:01] <bugSmasher> How do i file bugs on universe - launchpad.net or with whoever produced the package?
[23:01] <Bruno_> PriceChild:thanks, but i want to know how i start it...
[23:01] <Patchak> I need to assing torrent links to that program, don,t know where it is
[23:01] <PriceChild> Patchak, applications > internet > deluge bittorrent
[23:01] <Slart> sauvin: icons for network manager something
[23:01] <PriceChild> Patchak, or deluge-torrent from the command line
[23:01] <PriceChild> Bruno_, if its installed, its started
[23:01] <Bugson> the same
[23:01] <sauvin> Still?
[23:01] <Bugson> yes
[23:01] <mpeters> Bruno_: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[23:02] <Patchak> PriceChild, but when the downlaod manager asks which program to use... I guess it looks for the path of the executable??
[23:02] <Bruno_> PriceChild: thanks
[23:02] <andi5> rbs-tito: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/5364 might have some info, i have not read it (completely)
[23:02] <Bruno_> mpeters: thanks
[23:02] <PriceChild> Patchak, a handy hint... type in "deluge" into a terminal then press the <tab> key... it should autocomplete it or show you possible options
[23:02] <PriceChild> Patchak, /usr/bin/deluge-torrent
[23:02] <NewUserr> he guys i am using ubuntu now, is it possible to install windows on my computer too or do i have to remove ubuntu first?
[23:02] <ciacon> Slart: I have an screen-shot img on my srv in a sec...
[23:02] <PriceChild> Patchak, the command "whereis deluge-torrent" tells you where a few things are.
[23:02] <ikonia> NewUserr: dual boot is fine
[23:03] <PriceChild> !dualboot | NewUserr
[23:03] <ubotu> NewUserr: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[23:03] <Pelo> NewUserr,  you just need to make a new partiton on your hdd for windows,  but you'll have to reinstall grub afterwards
[23:03] <Bugson> I got ot :D
[23:03] <Bugson> finaly :D
[23:03] <doctormo> Anyone got a Blackberry phone
[23:03] <doctormo> ?
[23:03] <Jack_Sparrow> NewUserr: dual boot is fine.. it is a bit easier to have xp on first... especially, when it usually needs to be reinstalled more often
[23:04] <Bugson> sauvin, Slart, /usr/share/icons/Human/24x24/status  thanks guys for help ;)
[23:04] <heddyfran> Good lord, this is a busy channel
[23:04] <NewUserr> Jack_Sparrow yes i know thats why i am asking but i try out dual boot thnx
[23:04] <Pelo> heddyfran,  you should see it when it is realy hoping
[23:04] <heddyfran> Oh lordy!  hehe
[23:04] <doctormo> heddyfran: too many joinings and leavings
[23:04] <ciacon> Slart: http://ciacon.dyndns.org:8001/arts-prob.png
[23:05] <Slart> ciacon: looking...
[23:05] <sauvin> Some IRC clients can mask joins and parts.
[23:05] <heddyfran> Well I've just installed Ubuntu 7.10 over RH Version 9.0....I have a dual boot machine here
[23:05] <NIMBY> can I mask join/parts etc in xchat ?
[23:06] <Pelo> heddyfran,  congradulations,  welcome to the madhouse
[23:06] <ciacon> Slart: 13x downloaded... I hope someone can help out..
[23:06] <sauvin> Nimby, maybe.... let me look.
[23:06] <doctormo> done
[23:06] <Panzerboy__> hey
[23:06] <Patchak> PriceChild, weird, cause when I type whereis deluge-torrent itdoes not return anything
[23:06] <Panzerboy__> anybody running hardy ?
[23:06] <Pelo> NIMBY,  right click the channel tab , select hide join/part
[23:06] <doctormo> Now, I need folks who have a Blackberry to give me a hand
[23:06] <PriceChild> !hardy | Panzerboy__
[23:06] <ubotu> Panzerboy__: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:06] <Pelo> Panzerboy__,  there is no hardy yet
[23:06] <heddyfran> Thank you Pelo, so far, it's a very nice install.  :)
[23:06] <Bruno_> mpeters: it still says connection refused
[23:06] <josephe> sauvin: they just dont tell you
[23:07] <sauvin> Nimby, Settings->Advanced->Text Events
[23:07] <Slart> ciacon: well.. I'm just guessing now.. it's telling you a library is missing and then tells you to remove the library mentioned.. you would perhaps be better off asking someone that's using KDE
[23:07] <Panzerboy__> okay, the reason i asked is that i wanted to see what kernel is hardy running at the moment
[23:07] <Gnea> !dmix
[23:07] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:07] <josephe> NIMBLY: look in config for "dont show joins/parts"
[23:07] <infinitycircuit> Panzerboy__, there is a thread in the forums from a couple of weeks ago about hardy and updating your sources
[23:07] <mpeters> Bruno_: does "sudo netstat -atnp show sshd" as running on the remote machine?
[23:07] <ciacon> Slart: am just about to post in the #kubuntu - you might like to join ;-)
[23:07] <Pelo> Panzerboy__, thre is no hardy atm,  it's too soon
[23:07] <Panzerboy__> i need 2.6.24 in gutsy and i'm too lazy to compile my own :P
[23:07] <infinitycircuit> Panzerboy__, just compile it.  it's really simple
[23:08] <ikonia> Panzerboy__: why do you need it
[23:08] <Pelo> heddyfran, don'T do that again
[23:08] <Panzerboy__> infinitycircuit: well, that's the problem, my shitty wireless usb stick doesn't work with the gutsy kernel
[23:08] <infinitycircuit> Panzerboy__, do you need to force enable hpet?
[23:08] <Nimby> this is the ubuntu version and it doesnt seem to have those options, just preferences
[23:08] <ikonia> Panzerboy__: there is no need for that language !
[23:08] <Slart> ciacon: *shudder*... join kubuntu.. but those guys are crazy.. ;)
[23:08] <andi5> ciacon: have you installed libasound2?
[23:08] <MasterShrek> Panzerboy__, then just compile it yourself, dont be lazy if it something you really want
[23:08] <sauvin> Nimby, are you running xchat-gnome?
[23:08] <ciacon> andi5: haven'
[23:08] <Panzerboy__> ikonia: sorry, but it is s****y :)
[23:08] <ciacon> t
[23:08] <infinitycircuit> Panzerboy__, oh in that case just compile it yourself.  i'm using 2.6.24-rc3-mm1 now and it's fine
[23:09] <Panzerboy__> okay
[23:09] <somerville32> Does WoW run on Ubuntu?
[23:09] <Bruno_> mpeters: how can i tell? i know he has sshd running
[23:09] <heddyfran> Sorry Pelo, just have not been on IRC in a while.  I learnt IRC commands back in the early 90s
[23:09] <init> it's pretty easy to wine WoW on ubuntu
[23:09] <Slart> somerville32: as the people in #winehq or check the wine application database.. appdb.winehq.org or something like that
[23:09] <MasterShrek> !wow | somerville32
[23:09] <andi5> ciacon: it is probably easier to just install arts..., well
[23:09] <ubotu> somerville32: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[23:09] <mpeters> Bruno_: If you know sshd is running then it's most likely firewall that's stopping you
[23:10] <Pelo> heddyfran, this is a support channel,  pinging msging etc ppl whitout asking is rude and disruptive , stick to the in channel stuff
[23:10] <Panzerboy__> infinitycircuit: tim gardner has it compiled on his ppa :P
[23:10] <Nimby> sauvin yes, its xchat-gnome
[23:10] <Panzerboy__> infinitycircuit: too bad it's only amd64
[23:10] <heddyfran> Thank you Pelo.  :)
[23:10] <ctp> hi folks. anyone here can explain me the difference between desktop and alternate installation cd?
[23:10]  * Pelo is getting grouchy in his old age
[23:10] <Bruno_> mpeters: how can i m,ake it so that the firewall doesnt block scp
[23:10] <sauvin> Nimby, you might be happier with regular xchat. Try sudo apt-get install xchat
[23:10] <Panzerboy__> ctp: the alternate is not a live cd
[23:10] <amason> hi guys, i've broken my samba install accidentally by removing the /etc/samba dir, but neither sudo apt-get install --reinstall samba or dpkg-reconfigure seem to restore the directory and it's contents back to the default
[23:11] <MasterShrek> ctp, nothing really except the alternate uses a text installer and the desktop is a live cd with a gui installer
[23:11] <Panzerboy__> ctp:  and iirc it has only a text mode installer
[23:11] <mpeters> Bruno_: you need to open up TCP Port 22
[23:11] <infinitycircuit> amason, what if you try apt-get remove --purge samba smbclient and then apt-get install samba smbclient
[23:11] <Pelo> ctp,  desktop will let you try out the distro as if it was installed,   alt cd only has a text based installer on it , generaly lightter on resources during the install
[23:11] <Nimby> thanks sauvin, I'm used to mirc so its all new to me :) will download the regular verion
[23:11] <Nimby> *version
[23:11] <MasterShrek> the end result of the install will be the same ctp
[23:11] <juano__> amason: sudo dpkg -l | grep samba
[23:11] <Bruno_> mpeters: how do that?
[23:11] <andi5> amason: go to /var/lib/dpkg/info and search the files for /etc/samba, then reinstall those packages
[23:11] <Panzerboy__> Bruno_: it's better to change the port on which ssh is listening, than to open 22, IMHO
[23:11] <sauvin> I remember mirc. HATED the script language.
[23:11] <ctp> Panzerboy__ + MasterShrek: ok, so alternate is my choice ;-)
[23:12] <amason> infi\
[23:12] <Bruno_> mpeters: ok so how do i do that, change the port?
[23:12] <Panzerboy__> a lot of dictionary attacks on 22
[23:12] <ibanez> woo
[23:12] <ibanez> got me nick
[23:12] <amason> infinitycircuit: juano__ andi5i will try that thanks
[23:12]  * sauvin ponders installing mirc under wine
[23:12]  * Tidus thwaps sauvin.
[23:12]  * Pelo thinks sauvin needs to take a vacation
[23:12] <ctp> kubuntu and ubuntu only differ in kde vs gnome? i'm a kde user so i think kubuntu alternate cd is the right one for me
[23:12] <Jack_Sparrow> sauvin: Sad... so so sad
[23:13] <sauvin> hee hee
[23:13] <niere> hi
[23:13] <Pelo> ctp, sounds about right
[23:13] <MasterShrek> ctp, go for it, kde is better btw =)
[23:13] <niere> is anyone here using fusesmb with feisty or gutsy?
[23:13] <rbs-tito> andi5: Thanks for the link. It looks like I'll just have to switch backends three times per day!!]
[23:13] <ciacon> andi5, Slart: #kubuntu ist tellimt nort - andi5 - you thought apt-get arts is the thing to do??
[23:13]  * Pelo thinks MasterShrek  is gunning for a kick
[23:13] <sauvin> Truthfully, I looked high, low, left, right and upside down for a decent IRC client for Windows. There don't seem to BE any such critter. XChat for Windows comes... close.
[23:13] <mpeters> Bruno_: In /etc/ssh/sshd_config, edit the line "Port 22" to the port you want and then restart sshd "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart"
[23:13] <dahitokiri> how far behind is xubuntu from ubuntu in terms of development?
[23:13] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[23:13] <Tidus> sauvin, you can use irssi on windows :P
[23:14] <world_citizen> can one scan a text page and convert it into text in ubuntu
[23:14] <andi5> ciacon: if arts is missing, then "sudo apt-get install arts" should help, yes
[23:14] <sauvin> MasterShrek, the choice of desktop is a matter of personal choice. I use KDE but recognise that many folks vastly prefer gnome.
[23:14] <zeus21> hi all
[23:14] <world_citizen> I can scan but cannot convert it to text
[23:14] <Bruno_> mpeters: to what port should i change it to? which one is allowed?
[23:14] <rbs-tito> dahitokiri: Big features seem to be one release behind.
[23:14] <mpeters> Bruno_: The firewall will still need to allow the port which you change ssh to listen on though.
[23:14] <Pelo> dahitokiri, it's not a qustion of being behind,  xubuntu is made to use less resources, it runs xcfe instead of gnome
[23:14] <ctp> MasterShrek: definitely it is. i have to setup 16 boxes at one time. kubuntu installing via fai is my goal
[23:14] <andi5> rbs-tito: i am sorry.... you might rather try to hack your configuration into /etc/network/interfaces
[23:14] <d1n0> sauvin: why do you prefer KDE?
[23:14] <Panzerboy__> Bruno_: anything above 1024
[23:14] <Pelo> world_citizen,  you need to instal OCR or whatever it is called, check in synaptic
[23:14] <sauvin> dln0, it's what I've used for years, starting way back in the RH days.
[23:15] <niere> i'm having trouble with fusesmb when i config it to use a username/password on a specific server
[23:15] <mpeters> Bruno_: and it's probably the firewall at your friends end which will need changing.
[23:15] <dahitokiri> Pelo, i understand that. but there are certain apps that ubuntu offers that xubuntu might not. i think it's just easier to install ubuntu and switch to xfce4 from there
[23:15] <rbs-tito> andi5: Not really worth it, I switch networks way to often. No need to be sorry, it is as much my fault as it is yours. I'm going to see if I can lend a hand to the network-manager guys
[23:15] <niere> without that fusesmb works just fine (anonymously), but not with a username
[23:15] <Bruno_> Panzerboy__: ok
[23:15] <Tidus> dahitokiri, the repos are the same
[23:15] <world_citizen> Pelo thank for that
[23:15] <sauvin> dln0, I like KDE for the way it "looks" and "feels", nothing more concrete than that.
[23:15] <Bruno_> mpeters: so i should tell him to change his sshd-config file too?
[23:15] <Bruno_> mpeters: to the same port as me?
[23:15] <dahitokiri> sauvin, familiar like windows, maybe?
[23:15] <world_citizen> But can you tell me the name of the OCR that would work in Ubuntu
[23:15] <dahitokiri> s/like/to/
[23:15] <Pelo> dahitokiri, defaults apps are one thing but you can run all gnome /kde aps in xubuntu , it doesn'T realy matter,  required libs will be installed to let you run them
[23:15] <sauvin> dahitokiri, I hated Windows.
[23:16] <Tidus> dahitokiri, all you have to do is enable universe and you have the same vast amount of software
[23:16] <dahitokiri> Pelo, Tidus alright, thanks
[23:16] <voraistos> Hey. I am using edubuntu from a thin client. (with the integrated ltsp support). It wouldnt work so i found out how to force a vga config from it. (something like xserver=vga in lts.conf). thing is, it kinda gets on my nerves. the graphics card is an sis550 (SoC) graphic family sis315, there are good drivers out there, i just wonder how to use them ?
[23:16] <Pelo> world_citizen,  jsut do a search for OCR in synaptic, and the appropriate pacakges will be listed
[23:16] <ciacon> andi5: It already is installed... should I remove and install it - or is there another way?
[23:16] <troseph> Unable to get DVD to play. Could it just be the disc? Here is my log from VLC http://pastebin.com/f142f4c24
[23:16] <D4rkB34n> hi there
[23:16] <D4rkB34n> any one can help....
[23:16] <mpeters> Bruno_: whether you change the port or not, you'll still need to change the firewall. The actual port doesn't make much difference.
[23:17] <andi5> ciacon: does the same hold for the library that your screenshot complained about (libasound2)?
[23:17] <Panzerboy__> night guys
[23:17] <world_citizen> Pelo thank for this, but one or two more things
[23:17] <rbs-tito> andi5: I didn't know nm was a gnome project
[23:17] <voraistos> VLC doesnt read certain discs
[23:17] <Panzerboy__> time to sleep :)
[23:17] <juano__> is there any repository for audacious-skin package ?
[23:17] <juano__> audacious-skinS that is
[23:17] <Pelo> voraistos, I think what you need can be acheived by  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:17] <world_citizen> My screen saver jams that computer what to do
[23:17] <andi5> rbs-tito: otherwise you had not tried to use it? ;-)
[23:17] <sauvin> troseph, what is this DVD?
[23:17] <Pelo> !dvd | troseph
[23:17] <ubotu> troseph: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:17] <ciacon> andi5: libasound.so.2
[23:17] <world_citizen> Also when an application jams the computer what to do?
[23:17] <voraistos> Pelo: that wouldnt work. All i want is to reconfigure the thin clients, not the actual xserver
[23:17] <D4rkB34n> i reinstall openoffice 2.3.0 on ubuntu 7.10 from synaptic, but i don't have the shortcuts at applications -> office
[23:18] <Bruno_> mpeters: panzerboy_ said anything above 1024 is allowed, so if i change it to 1025 it should work without changing the firewall right?
[23:18] <Panzerboy__> Bruno_: you still need to allow incoming traffic to that port
[23:18] <john_priest> what would chmod 000 do to a file?
[23:18] <Jack_Sparrow> world_citizen: select single screen saver not all at random.. it may just be a few that are a prob
[23:18] <Panzerboy__> from the firewall
[23:18] <D4rkB34n> how can i refresh the menu bar?
[23:18] <rbs-tito> andi5: This is strange, the upstream bug is marked as resolved
[23:18] <john_priest> who would have permissions to that file
[23:18] <voraistos> troseph: stop it with the bot, VLC comes with libdvdcss hardcoded
[23:18] <mpeters> Bruno_: It's not nescessarily the case that above 1024 is allowed
[23:18] <D4rkB34n> i reinstall openoffice 2.3.0 on ubuntu 7.10 from synaptic, but i don't have the shortcuts at applications -> office, how can i refresh menu bar?
[23:18] <Pelo> world_citizen, for the screensaver try another one, or check that is isn'T monitor off that is enable and causing the trouble , for dejamming,   alt+f2  type xkill  , then click on the app with the mouse
[23:18] <ExalleR> is it possible to run Ubuntu and Windows simultaneusly?
[23:19] <rbs-tito> andi5: And the screenshots on the NM homepage have a "VPN connections" menu
[23:19] <Pelo> world_citizen,  also use the name of the person you talk to in each line, it makes it easier to follow
[23:19] <rbs-tito> ExalleR: As in, at the same time or on the same machine
[23:19] <Nimby> I gave up on vlc in 7.10 it was so jumpy
[23:19] <troseph> !not helpful | pelo
[23:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about not helpful - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:19] <mpeters> Bruno_: In fact I would hope that's not the case.
[23:19] <sauvin> ExalleR, do you have two or more computers? :D
[23:19] <D4rkB34n> ExalleR: yes
[23:19] <Bruno_> Panzerboy__:  ok, how can i do that?
[23:19] <DeviantSolution> D4rkB34n: System/Preferences/Main Menu
[23:19] <Panzerboy__> ExalleR: not at the same time without one of them running in a virtual machine :)
[23:19] <D4rkB34n> ExalleR: you need vmware
[23:19] <Bruno_> mpeters:  no he just clarified i still need to allow it
[23:19] <andi5> rbs-tito: yes, as obsolete.... i have not checked the version numbers
[23:19] <octete> Hi guys, for a Intel Core 2 Duo, is it better to install the 386 version or the amd64? (I am worried about compatibility issues or lack of some packages for amd64)
[23:19] <troseph> sauvin: Kill Bill vol 2
[23:19] <Bruno_> mpeters:  to allow incomming traffic
[23:19] <gaten> im unable to copy a file larger than 4gb. the error i get is:  "File size limit exceeded (core dumped)" (using cp). how can i get around this (i was thinking about splitting the file into 2 seperate chunks (its 6gb), then copying the chunks to the desired disk and merging them)
[23:19] <ciacon> andi5: libasound.so.2... the shot was @ file:///home/ciacon/Desktop/arts-prob.png
[23:19] <rbs-tito> andi5: That bug is years old
[23:19] <ExalleR> okey.. thx!
[23:19] <andi5> rbs-tito: maybe the backports repository has something for you?
[23:20] <sauvin> troseph, I don't have that DVD, but it's recent enough it might be copy protected.
[23:20] <doctormo> gaten: what kind of file systems are you using?
[23:20] <rbs-tito> andi5: nm 0.7 /
[23:20] <rbs-tito> ?
[23:20] <mpeters> Bruno_: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[23:20] <voraistos> octete: i thought those cpus were 32 bits ?
[23:20] <gaten> doctormo: ext2 and copying to fat32
[23:20] <ciacon> andi5: libasound.so.2... the shot was @ http://ciacon.dyndns.org:8001/arts-prob.png     dammn;-)
[23:20] <Pelo> octete, always better to install i386,   amd64 is missing some support for some propriatary drivers and flash and some other stuff
[23:20] <mpeters> Bruno_: iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --sport 22 -j ACCEPT
[23:20] <andi5> ciacon: why do you flood me?
[23:20] <octete> voraistos, well, they support the 64 bit extensions, no?
[23:20] <doctormo> gaten: fat32 doesn't support files bigger than 4GB
[23:20] <troseph> sauvin: It's an original, do you mean it might just be encrypted?
[23:20] <andi5> ciacon: have you checked libasound2?
[23:20] <octete> Pelo, thanks, That's what I was worried about
[23:20] <ciacon> andi5: apt-get that?
[23:20] <voraistos> octete: if they are 32 bits cpu, 64 bits wont do much :P
[23:20] <DeviantSolution> octete: Intel. AMD. Does not compute. ^_^
[23:20] <gaten> doctormo: well that explains it. meh, thanks
[23:21] <Nimby> core duo is 64bit
[23:21] <sauvin> troseph, I mean it might be copy protected. I DO have movie DVDs I can't watch without doing something underhanded because the manufacturers deliberately introduced bad sectors.
[23:21] <octete> yeah, core duo is 64 bit
[23:21] <Tidus> Nimby, no, the core 1 duos aren't
[23:21] <voraistos> then its all god
[23:21] <Do``> could someone help with a crash? when i try running deluge (v<IP_ADDRESS>) it crashes instantly. the deluge dev guys said i should reinstall the python packages, because it's an ubuntu issue, but that didn't help :/
[23:21] <Tidus> c2d is
[23:21] <voraistos> god*
[23:21] <voraistos> good*
[23:21] <voraistos> damn it!
[23:21] <Pelo> do
[23:21] <doctormo> gaten: It's because it's 32bit addresses thus 4GB, it's the same reason you can only have 4GB of ram in a 32bit machine (not accounting for paging)
[23:21] <Bruno_> mpeters: Panzerboy__: thanks
[23:22] <Pelo> Do``,  try utorrent on wine or some other bittorrent client
[23:22] <_polto_> hello all
[23:22] <ciacon> Slart - are you still with us?
[23:22] <Do``> http://pastebin.com/m41cb4acb this is what deluge says when i start it
[23:22] <gaten> doctormo: yeah, i remember that now that you mention it.
[23:22] <Do``> Pelo: i want deluge
[23:22] <Tidus> octete, core 1 duo isn't 64 bit.  core 2 duo is
[23:22] <Slart> ciacon: still here.. anything new on the arts thingy?
[23:22] <troseph> sauvin: Ahh I think I'll just rip it to Mpeg an watch it that way. :)
[23:22] <doctormo> gaten: so even if you chop it up you couldn't put it back together on that file system anyway
[23:22] <andi5> doctormo: you can have as much ram as you want in your 32bit machine, but i suppose at max 3gig of them will be addressable (pci-e bus and whatever...)
[23:22] <voraistos> if you cat /proc/cpu it might say something about it.
[23:22] <octete> Tidus, sorry, I forgot to put the "2" there, I have the Core 2 Duo, but thanks anyway, I am going to stick to i386 as I don't want any compatibility issues
[23:23] <gaten> doctormo: yeah looks like im going to copy it to a ntfs fs
[23:23] <sauvin> dln0, I'm answering in public because the answers may help somebody else. As far as I'm aware, the differences between ubuntu, xubuntu and kubuntu would be in the desktop level; the base ubuntu system would be the same. I wouldn't expect to see hardware issues to differ between these different ubuntu dialects.
[23:23] <doctormo> andi5: er no, 4GB is addressable, anything more requires CPU memory paging support.
[23:23] <niere> bye
[23:23] <Nimby> I was under the impression the 32bit cpu's couldnt see beyond 3gb
[23:23] <MasterShrek> octete, i run 64 bit with no problems
[23:23] <sauvin> troseph, yes, that's kind of what I meant by "underhanded". How do you rip to mpeg?
[23:23] <ciacon> andi5: I found an arts package... problem is, when I try to install it - it tells me that it is already installed... is "apt-get remove arts" and "apt-get install arts" the way?
[23:23] <octete> MasterShrek, what about flash and all that stuff?
[23:24] <andi5> Nimby: ack... that is what i just said
[23:24] <doctormo> Nimby: that seems like a silly number, something to do with some machines specifically?
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !purge
[23:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about purge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:24] <troseph> sauvin: acidrip