[12:14] <crazy_penguin> good night everybody (here is 1 am). sleep well! :)
[12:15] <sabaal> Hello everyone.
[12:15] <driz> bwello
[12:16] <sabaal> I've run across what would, at first glance, appear to be a very useful option in the KDE Components > Session Manager menu.
[12:16] <sabaal> "Restore manually saved session"
[12:16] <sabaal> Problem is, I have no clue how to manually save a session. :P
[12:17] <sabaal> Answers? Hints? Arrow, shaped signs? Anyone?
[12:17] <sabaal> Arrow-shaped, too.
[12:19] <sabaal> Is anyone on this channel besides driz awake? It's like a ghost town in here.
[12:19] <Ertain> I know the feeling.
[12:19] <sabaal> Hahaha.
[12:19] <Ertain> I'm trying to make my Wacom tablet and screensaver working.
[12:20] <sabaal> Well, since you're also conscious, might you know how to manually save a session?
[12:20] <sabaal> Can't help with the tablet. Sorry.
[12:21] <sabaal> Wow, this channel was so helpful last night...
[12:22] <sabaal> ...I guess everyone's sleeping in. :P
[12:22] <sabaal> Well, I'll see if I can find it online. Thanks anyway.
[12:22] <Kr4t05> sabaal, one second, I'll look it up.
[12:22] <sabaal> Oh, alright.
[12:22] <TheHighChild> sabaal: Or we have no idea how to save sessions ;)
[12:22] <sabaal> 'Salright.
[12:22] <sabaal> I've just made this place my first resource.
[12:22] <sabaal> Since it's usually faster. :P
[12:23] <zblach> any audiophiles around?
[12:23] <sabaal> *Shrug.* What's an audiophile?
[12:23] <zblach> good/like music
[12:23] <sabaal> All I listen to is movie/video game soundtracks. :P
[12:23] <h3sp4wn> zblach: What do you mean ?
[12:23] <Kr4t05> Someone who is obsessed with the quality of their music.
[12:24] <zblach> Kr4t05: quality in both contextx
[12:24] <zblach> **ts
[12:24] <Kr4t05> audiophiles are the type of people who love high-bitrate and high-end audio hardware.
[12:24] <h3sp4wn> zblach: I am one if you mean I have expensive active monitors and an m-audio soundcard and balanced leads
[12:25] <zblach> not that I can affort high-end hardware, but ...
[12:25] <zblach> whatever, i like music, but i'm running into some difficulties
[12:25] <Kr4t05> I have a nice 2.1 system that I got for Christmas.
[12:25] <TheHighChild> sounds sucks in linux. I've never gotten anything to sound as good as on other OS's
[12:25] <Kr4t05> I <3 I-Trigue
[12:26] <zblach> my troubles lie with the .mpc file format
[12:26] <Kr4t05> TheHighChild, you're soundcard just isn't supported as well.
[12:26] <h3sp4wn> I don't know anything about that
[12:26] <sabaal> I've never heard of .mpc.
[12:26] <zblach> musepack
[12:26] <Kr4t05> My audio sounds just as good as Windows.
[12:26] <sabaal> Mine sounds better.
[12:26] <h3sp4wn> My soundcard sounds as good as in any os (once artsd is disabled)
[12:27] <sabaal> Seeing as how Turtle Beach's drivers hate Windows XP. :P
[12:27] <zblach> Kr4t05: the goal is not to be 'as good as' windows
[12:27] <Kr4t05> Better?
[12:27] <D4m4ge> bye all
[12:27] <zblach> it's like "I can run better and farther than a three year old"
[12:27] <sabaal> Seeya.
[12:27] <Kr4t05> lol
[12:27] <h3sp4wn> I think asio works well and alot easier to get right than jackd
[12:27] <zblach> i can, but 'big deal'?
[12:27] <zblach> not really.
[12:27] <Kr4t05> Heh
[12:28] <Kr4t05> I know.
[12:28] <Kr4t05> np: Nobuo Uematsu - The Chase of Highway [0:06/4:34]
[12:28] <Kr4t05> Er,,
[12:28] <sabaal> YES!
[12:28] <h3sp4wn> zblach: Do you know about jackd ?
[12:28] <zblach> final fantasy, right?
[12:28] <Kr4t05> My bad
[12:28] <zblach> jackd?
[12:28] <Kr4t05> zblach, yeah
[12:28] <sabaal> *Sings along.*
[12:28] <zblach> the jack audio daemon?
[12:28] <h3sp4wn> yes
[12:28] <Kr4t05> Advent Children
[12:28] <zblach> i only know the name
[12:28] <sabaal> Daah nah, de na nah nah, de nah nah nah, de nah nah naah...
[12:28] <Kr4t05> I should install gnump3d
[12:29] <Kr4t05> ?
[12:29] <sabaal> Best soundtreack ever. :D
[12:29] <zblach> i didn't really like advent children. i would've preferred a remake of the game
[12:29] <Kr4t05> !keyboard
[12:29] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[12:29] <sabaal> They're going to do one.
[12:29] <sabaal> You know it. All their comments are leading up to an announcement.
[12:29] <zblach> sabaal: they've said that for years
[12:29] <Kr4t05> Is keytouch in the repos?
[12:30] <sabaal> I just hope it's multiplatform. I won't pay for a PS3.
[12:30] <Kr4t05> sabaal, 360 or Wii?
[12:30] <ChefWill> i want nintendo wi :D
[12:30] <sabaal> Probably both for me.
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> I do also (only games I like are old arcade games and snes games)
[12:30] <sabaal> Definitely a Wii. 360 to pick up the slack for old-style games.
[12:30] <Kr4t05> Just so you can see your mom's face when you tell her you're going to play with your Wii.
[12:31] <Ertain> I want a Wii too.
[12:31] <sabaal> Haha.
[12:31] <Ertain> I hope Square-Enix will put all of their old SNES games on the virtual console.
[12:31] <sabaal> "My Wii's smaller than yours. And yours overheats." <-After a mid-gen remodel.
[12:32] <zblach> play 'metal gear trouser' on your wii
[12:32] <h3sp4wn> Ertain: I have most of those on cartridge (The US released ones anyway - Imported them to the UK none got released here hardly at all)
[12:32] <zblach> play as 'trouser snake'
[12:32] <sabaal> Bahahaha!
[12:33] <sabaal> "I spent all day playing with my Wii. By the time I was done, it had almost melted."
[12:33] <Kr4t05> XD
[12:33] <sabaal> I could do this all day. :P
[12:33] <Kr4t05> Perhaps this should go to #*-offtopic?
[12:33] <sabaal> Nah, I'm done.
[12:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what's emerge?
[12:34] <zblach> now, back to music. mpc -> mp3. anyone have any ideas?
[12:34] <h3sp4wn> gentoo's python piece of junk
[12:34] <crimsun> nah, it's an excellent distro regardless of one's opinion kthx.
[12:35] <h3sp4wn> I just don't like python
[12:35] <h3sp4wn> Too much typing
[12:35] <sabaal> Well, I'd better be off. Games don't make themselves, and socialization is too distracting.
[12:35] <sabaal> Seeya.
[12:36] <Kr4t05> Later. :P
[12:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> h3sp4wn: that was for me?
[12:37] <Kr4t05> Firefox keeps gagging on me. :<
[12:37] <h3sp4wn> Tallia1Kubuntu: Thats what it is yes
[12:37] <Kr4t05> np: Nobuo Uematsu - One Winged Angel (FFVII AC Version) [0:11/6:07]
[12:37] <Kr4t05> :#
[12:37] <Kr4t05> :3
[12:38] <zblach> Kr4t05: you know the battle victory music?
[12:38] <Kr4t05> Yeah
[12:38] <zblach> think you can find me a midi of it>?
[12:38] <Kr4t05> bitpim-ing it to your cell?
[12:38] <zblach> absolutely
[12:38] <Kr4t05> lmao
[12:38] <Kr4t05> Sure.
[12:39] <Kr4t05> Any particular mix?
[12:39] <Kr4t05> FFIX, FFVII?
[12:39] <zblach> VII
[12:39] <linuxmonkey> anyone here know how to map widows key to bring up the kde menu
[12:39] <Kr4t05> Gotcha
[12:39] <Kr4t05> !keytouch
[12:39] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[12:39] <sylow> hey, I'm trying to setup a dual boot system. what mount point should I use for kubuntu? (windows points to /media/sda1)
[12:40] <linuxmonkey> Kr4t05: i am not using keytouch
[12:41] <h3sp4wn> Tallia1Kubuntu: Maybe my opinion of gentoo is not representative however their uclibc stage (which is the only thing I have tried to use of there's recently) is highly borked
[12:41] <Kr4t05> zblach: http://www.ffshrine.org/ff7/ff7/ff7-1-11-fanfare.mid
[12:43] <omeow> Is it hard to make packages for Kubuntu?
[12:43] <zblach> very nice
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> omeow: Not very hard - Read the debian packaging guide
[12:45] <Kr4t05> KDE hates me. ><
[12:45] <omeow> h3sp4wn: I suppose it's not possible to convert a suse package into a debian package?
[12:45] <omeow> There's this thing I'd love to try out; http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=40586
[12:45] <omeow> But there are only suse packages.
[12:46] <Kr4t05> !tell omeow about alien
[12:46] <tackat> Kr4t05: It doesn't hate you. That's just the special way it tries to show its love to you ;-)
[12:46] <omeow> Thanks Kr4t05, that confirms what I already pretty much knew. ;)
[12:46] <Kr4t05> tacket, randomly barfing in my face?
[12:47] <h3sp4wn> Kr4t05: His system will really mess up if he does that
[12:47] <Kr4t05> Ah, ok
[12:48] <h3sp4wn> Its patches for qt kdelibs and kdebase
[12:48] <h3sp4wn> and at version 0.1
[12:51] <scott_> does flash player 8 not exist for linux yet?
[12:52] <crimsun> scott_: no, and it won't.
[12:52] <scott_> crimsun: just googled and apaprantly they are skipping 8 for linux and going directly onto 8.5
[12:53] <crimsun> (I know)
[12:53] <scott_> sucks, caus sum websites i regularly use requrie flash 8
[12:53] <scott_> :(
[12:54] <omeow> h3sp4wn: I know. But it sounds like something that should have been in KDE from version 1. =P
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> omeow: You could add the patches yourself (with dpatch stuff like that is quite easy)
[12:56] <omeow> I rathern not break stuff.
[01:07] <larson9999> is there a simple answer to this question?  what should the fstab entry for a cd-rw drive that i want to let anyone mount and read/write look like?
[01:07] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> i guess im missing more stuff because i get the same error when sudo make install
[01:10] <heinrich> hi all
[01:10] <heinrich> i want to use latex on kubuntu?
[01:10] <heinrich> where do i get it ?
[01:12] <heinrich> and i need some editor for it
[01:14] <Kr4t05> great
[01:14] <Kr4t05> Kicker just crashed
[01:15] <Kr4t05> ><
[01:15] <Kr4t05> OK.
[01:15] <Kr4t05> Scaling back my CPU...
[01:32] <korozion> Anyone had issues with amarok, kaffiene, etc 'skipping' when playing music?
[01:32] <elie> libogg.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:32] <elie> how do i get libogg.so.0?
[01:33] <edu> smb client doesn't work... it was working a few hours ago
[01:34] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> is there a gui app i can use to test the cpu overclock stability ???
[01:34] <KuLover> What does it mean when I try to sudo and it says that sudoers is in 0660 and should be in 0440?
[01:35] <edu> KuLover: it's about perms
[01:36] <edu> KuLover: try this -> chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[01:38] <edu> smb client doesn't work... it was working a few hours ago
[01:39] <elie> any1 kan help with this---->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16720
[01:44] <edu> how could I reinstall Kubuntu through a server?
[01:44] <edu> how could I reinstall Kubuntu via network?
[01:45] <Kyral> uhh
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> Try using the netboot/mini.iso
[01:45] <Kyral> normal NetInstall?
[01:45] <edu> Kyral: yes, normal net install
[01:45] <Kyral> Netinstalls rock if you have broadband (and who doesn't)
[01:45] <Kyral> edu: I meant that use a normal netinst :P
[01:46] <edu> h3sp4wn: mini.iso? what's that?
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> Its for booting an installation and installing over the network
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> (its a cd which is about 7mb)
[01:47] <edu> Kyral: look, I have Kubuntu installed... and now I wanna reinstall the whole system but from here, I don't wanna boot from the CD...
[01:47] <Kyral> ...edu you kinda need to
[01:47] <edu> h3sp4wn: ok, and is it possible to do that from my Desktop?
[01:48] <edu> h3sp4wn: I don't wanna reboot...
[01:48] <h3sp4wn> I don't think so easily
[01:48] <Kyral> yet you wanna reinstall the system...
[01:50] <macconline> hi... (my english is bad)
[01:50] <edu> h3sp4wn: for example, Live-CD has a install program for KDE... something like that
[01:50] <Kyral> edu it still requires a reboot in the end!
[01:50] <h3sp4wn> And the installation messes up often
[01:50] <macconline> any that know of process Xorg???
[01:50] <elie> any1 kan help with this---->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16720
[01:50] <edu> Kyral: well, it doesn't matter if it is in the end
[01:50] <Kyral> macconline: you mean the X-Server?
[01:51] <macconline> kubuntu... Xorg process
[01:51] <Kyral> yes
[01:51] <Kyral> that represents the GUI
[01:52] <macconline> Kyral: Xorg use 52% of RAM,,,,
[01:52] <word_>  is there a way to have a katapult-type search in the k menu?
[01:52] <Kyral> macconline: and how much ram do you have?
[01:52] <macconline> 768
[01:53] <Kyral> ..I think yousa need a driver
[01:53] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> is there a gui app i can use to test the cpu overclock stability ???
[01:53] <Kyral> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: best test for O/C Stability is memtest or prime95
[01:53] <macconline> Kyral: a driver?
[01:53] <Kyral> neither are GUI :P
[01:53] <h3sp4wn> lm-sensors may be useful
[01:54] <Kyral> macconline: yah, like the ATI and NVidia drivers
[01:54] <macconline> i have nvidia drivers
[01:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hey guys, isn't there a way to equalize the volume of the knotification sound? i use to leave the system sound to 100% otherwise multimedia players sound is too low.. but when i receive a notification... HOLY SHIT!! my ear is blown off
[01:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> my ears*
[01:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> are*
[01:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :_D
[01:54] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Kyral: i didnt know prime95 works on linux . thanks
[01:54] <Kyral> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: its not Prime95 exactly
[01:55] <Kyral> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Google for "The Great Mersenne(sp?) Prime Number Search"
[01:55] <Kyral> the program they provide has a torture test mode akin to Prime95
[01:55] <elie> any1 kan help with this---->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16720
[01:56] <macconline> Kyral: sorry, but i don know repair this
[01:56] <Kyral> macconline: reboot?
[01:56] <macconline> yes... before % cpu after % of RAM
[01:57] <macconline> Kyral: yesterday CPU 50% and MEM 8% --- today CUP 8% and RAM 52%
[01:58] <Kyral> macconline: sounds like you are looking at something wrong
[02:00] <macconline> Kyral: ok, but how i see that??
[02:01] <Kyral> macconline: open a terminal and run free
[02:01] <macconline> what have i see??? (sorry my english)
[02:01] <sotired> ok i figured out why amarok wont play anything on a samba share
[02:01] <Kyral> look at the middle line (+/- buffers/cache)
[02:01] <sotired> but now i need to figure out how to mount a folder in a samba share
[02:01] <sotired> :(
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> sotired: It will if its mounted with mount -t smbfs
[02:02] <sotired> so what would the full command be? mount -t <folder name> <mount point> ?
[02:02] <sotired> sorry.,..first day using kubuntu
[02:03] <elie> any1 kan help with this---->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16720
[02:03] <Kyral> Easy you don't have libogg :P
[02:03] <sotired> thats not it
[02:04] <Kyral> sotired: I was talking to elie :P
[02:04] <sotired> im not trying to play .ogg
[02:04] <sotired> oh
[02:04] <sotired> im sorry
[02:04] <Kyral> sokay
[02:04] <Kyral> I should have prefaced
[02:04] <sotired> sorry if i sound partially retrded, but what do i have to do to mount that folder?
[02:07] <sotired> ?
[02:08] <sotired> does anyone know how i would go about mounting a smaba shared folder?
[02:08] <sotired> samba even
[02:10] <sotired> :(
[02:11] <edu> sotired: K Menu -> System Settings -> Sharing
[02:11] <h3sp4wn>  mount -t smbfs -o username=Administrator,password=Password //server/c$ /mnt/samba
[02:12] <elie> i already have liogg and it still same
[02:12] <elie> i already have libogg and it still same
[02:12] <omeow> Does anyone know what the name of the mozilla binary is? Is it just mozilla or mozilla-bin?
[02:12] <omeow> (or both?)
[02:12] <erov> mozilla-bin with a symbolic link named "mozilla", i believe
[02:12] <h3sp4wn> You should start it with mozilla
[02:13] <h3sp4wn> mozilla is a shell script which starts mozilla-bin (I think)
[02:13] <macconline> Kyral: i run free y the swap is full
[02:14] <omeow> Ah ok, thanks.
[02:14] <prince> hey
[02:14] <sotired> didnt work :(
[02:14] <elie> i already have libogg and it still say:  error while loading shared libraries: libogg.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:15] <Kyral> macconline: I dunno I don't know what you have been running
[02:17] <sotired> h3sp4n:thanks for the help...i think im getting somwhere...but it still isnt working
[02:18] <macconline> Kyral: sorry... the last message i don see
[02:18] <prince> join channel #desktop_linux_htc
[02:18] <Kyral> macconline: I dunno I don't know what you have been running
[02:19] <elie> i already have libogg and it still say:  error while loading shared libraries: libogg.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:19] <sotired> @h3sp4n: i keep getting an access denied
[02:19] <Kyral> elie: sorry I don't really know them
[02:19] <Kyral> then even
[02:19] <sotired> but there is no pword...i can acces the share with konqeurer no problem
[02:19] <v0taguz> i cant COpy a file of mi cdrom  =S this show me this error
[02:19] <v0taguz> /media/cdrom0/MPEGAV# cp AVSEQ01.DAT /home/votaguz/
[02:19] <v0taguz> cp: reading `AVSEQ01.DAT': Input/output error
[02:19] <v0taguz> anybody help me
[02:20] <elie> thnx anyway
[02:21] <edu> odd problem, smb://winXP was working perfectly but not any more...
[02:21] <v0taguz> anybody help me
[02:22] <elknof1> hi everybody...  sorry can someone tell me the command that showsme wheter tha DMA is working or no??
[02:23] <Kr4t05> !dma
[02:23] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[02:23] <edu> problem, smb://winXP was working perfectly but not any more...
[02:23] <v0taguz> ubotu: whith me ??
[02:23] <sotired> would mounting be the linux equivlant of mapping a network drive...in my case?
[02:23] <sotired> either way...i got it
[02:24] <sotired> thnx
[02:24] <erov> beer thirty.. ahh
[02:25] <KaoticEvil> hey all :)
[02:25] <KaoticEvil> anyone familiar with wine?
[02:26] <sotired> i like red...
[02:26] <sotired> sorry
[02:26] <KaoticEvil> lol
[02:26] <sotired> i had too
[02:26] <KaoticEvil> i know
[02:26] <erov> whats the Q Kaotic.. i use it from time to time
[02:26] <KaoticEvil> i know its something simple, and im sure i can do it... i just dont recall how..
[02:26] <KaoticEvil> i need to get Wine to report itself as Windows 9x
[02:27] <KaoticEvil> instead of an NT based *doze
[02:27] <erov> run 'winecfg'
[02:27] <KaoticEvil> thats it
[02:27] <erov> np
[02:27] <KaoticEvil> thanks :d
[02:33] <elie> damn i keep getting:
[02:33] <elie> Cannot open display "default display"
[02:33] <elie> ./ssam_lnx: error while loading shared libraries: libogg.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:33] <elie> ERROR: ld.so: object './libvorbis.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[02:33] <elie> Cannot open display "default display"
[02:41] <edu> do you know how the hostname SERVER can be associated with its IP?
[02:42] <KaoticEvil> w00t!! for the first time, im getting wine to install an application!!
[02:42] <edu> ping NETBIOS_HOSTNAME does not work... solution?
[02:43] <Ademan> anyone here used gparted to partition raid drives?
[02:43] <edu> ping HOST_IP works fine...
[02:43] <elie> any 1 can hel with this plz------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16727
[02:43] <edu> !netbios
[02:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about netbios
[02:43] <edu> !dns
[02:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about dns
[02:43] <edu> !hostname
[02:43] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[02:43] <bimberi> edu: entry in /etc/hosts ?
[02:44] <edu> bimberi: ok, thanks...
[02:44] <elie> any 1 can hel with this plz------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16727
[02:48] <bimberi> elie: is the libogg0 package installed? if not try that
[02:48] <Kr4t05> Ok, how do I search my computer for files and folders?
[02:48] <bimberi> edu: np :)
[02:48] <elie> yes it is
[02:49] <fiyawerx> can you make konversation have a transparent background?
[02:50] <driz> wooooot
[02:50] <bimberi> elie: hm, how about libvorbis-dev (which includes the file usr/lib/libvorbis.so)
[02:53] <fiyawerx_> fiyawerx_, test
[02:53] <Fiyawerx> hmm, xchat's pretty nice
[02:54] <elie> yup i have it bimberdi
[02:55] <bimberi> sorry elide, i'm out of ideas then :/
[02:58] <elie> bimberdi,i chkd in usr/lib/libvorbis.so and i found a link 4 it from shared..
[02:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu>  (award)
[03:01] <elie> bimberdi,i chkd in usr/lib/libvorbis.so and i found a link 4 it from shared..
[03:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> guys, what's freenode?
[03:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i mean, what is his philosophy..
[03:04] <elknof1> hi everybody, can someone tellme how to activate kaffeine to watch a movie on the s-video screen?? I use a ati mov rad 9000, while watching a movie i just can see a blue screen on kaffeine...  screen 2 (s-video)
[03:04] <elie> i chkd in usr/lib/libvorbis.so and i found a link 4 it from shared
[03:05] <Leira> after failed burning alternate CD 3 times, i tryed net install last night. i downloaeded the hd-media's vmlinuz and netboot's initrd.gz, and use grub to load, with a kernel parameter preseed/file point to the kubuntu.seed file.
[03:06] <Leira> but after install, i got an ubuntu, rather than kubuntu
[03:07] <Leira> it seems the preseed/file line did not effective
[03:08] <elie> any 1 can hel with this plz------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16727
[03:09] <almir> oiii
[03:10] <sword-> whats up
[03:10] <sword-> whats a good program to create iso images with?
[03:11] <elknof1> hi everybody, can someone tellme how to activate kaffeine to watch a movie on the s-video screen?? I use a ati mov rad 9000, while watching a movie i just can see a blue screen on kaffeine...  screen 2 (s-video)
[03:11] <erov> mkisofs
[03:11] <elie> any 1 can hel with this plz------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16727
[03:16] <erov> elie: have you verified the library is there and/or symbolic links
[03:18] <elie> erov:i founda link in /usr/lib(libvorbis.so) link target:/usr/lib/libvorbis.so.0.3.1
[03:19] <erov> what about libogg thats the one it claims it cant find..
[03:19] <altprsona> hi, im using kubuntu , trying to get my cam to work w/ kopete. in the configure menu i see a picture, i just dont see how to send a veiw my camera invite
[03:20] <elie> will see 1 min
[03:21] <elie> k,i found it,its a link 2 :/usr/lib/libogg.so.0.5.3
[03:21] <erov> and is linked to libogg.so right
[03:21] <erov> libogg.so.0
[03:22] <elie> think so]
[03:22] <erov> have you run 'sudo ldconfig' since all of this
[03:22] <elie> nop will try it now thnx
[03:24] <elie> name:libogg.so.0 link target:/usr/lib/libogg.so.0.5.3
[03:24] <erov> how'd this happen anyways and what are you trying to run
[03:25] <elie> a game
[03:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> altprsona: mhh?
[03:25] <elie> serious sam
[03:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> altprsona: chat -> Contacts -> CONTACT -> send webcam
[03:26] <altprsona> tallia, its not there
[03:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what is not there
[03:26] <altprsona> Tallia1Kubuntu altprsona: chat -> Contacts -> CONTACT -> send webcam
[03:27] <erov> maybe serious sam is loooking for a link in /usr/local/lib or some other lib directory
[03:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok, open a MSN chat
[03:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> with a person, then in that window there's the chat menu entry
[03:27] <erov> try adding sym links there as well or configuring the other lib directories.. i don't know
[03:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> altprsona: did you find it?
[03:28] <altprsona> i found it for msn, but not in contacts > contacts
[03:28] <altprsona> i dont see it for yahoo
[03:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oh
[03:28] <elie> is it normal that therz only 3 foleders in usrr/local/lib
[03:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> maybe simply they didn't implemented it !!
[03:28] <altprsona> drat
[03:29] <altprsona> theres a request webcam
[03:29] <altprsona> but not a send
[03:29] <sotired> its like as soon as i get one thing wroking...something else brakes
[03:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yeah..
[03:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> that could be poissible
[03:29] <erov> sometimes.. but a try it it can't hurt, elie
[03:30] <sotired> my sound suddenly has stopped working and ive tried alot of things...nothing
[03:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> altprsona: why don't you ask details in Kopete
[03:30] <sotired> seems like tis using my onboard instead of pci soundcard
[03:30] <crimsun> sotired: have I helped you already?
[03:30] <sotired> possibly
[03:30] <sotired> lol
[03:30] <crimsun> as in yesterday?
[03:30] <elie> i just creat a link of serioussam in usrr/local/lib ?
[03:30] <sotired> no
[03:30] <crimsun> ok, proceed
[03:30] <sotired> my sound just stopped working, after a crash
[03:30] <crimsun> sotired: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards ~/.asoundrc* && amixer''
[03:31] <Leira> after failed burning alternate CD 3 times, i tryed net install last night. i downloaeded the hd-media's vmlinuz and netboot's initrd.gz, and use grub to load, with a kernel parameter preseed/file point to the kubuntu.seed file. but after install, i got an ubuntu, rather than kubuntu.  it seems the preseed/file line did not effective. how can i know what preseed currently used, in the early stage of installation?
[03:31] <sotired> is there like a device manager in here somewhere?
[03:31] <altprsona> ty for the help
[03:32] <elie> erov: i just creat a link of serioussam in usr/local/lib ?
[03:32] <sotired> what is pastebin
[03:32] <erov> no
[03:32] <elie> a link of what?
[03:32] <erov> create the libogg.so.0 link etc. there to the appropriate libs
[03:33] <elie> k will try it thnx again
[03:33] <erov> it may be searching there instead or some other lib directory for the libs
[03:33] <erov> since it's a binary you cant tell i guess
[03:33] <erov> ive had the trouble with some linux games before
[03:33] <erov> thats what happens with no standards :P
[03:33] <sotired> crimsun: i dont understand
[03:34] <crimsun> !paste
[03:34] <elie> :-)
[03:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:34] <crimsun> sotired: ^ that
[03:34] <sotired> thank you :)
[03:36] <sotired> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16729
[03:36] <sotired> the cmedia is the one i want to be using
[03:36] <sotired> it was working before
[03:37] <crimsun> oh
[03:37] <crimsun> that's pretty simple to resolve
[03:37] <crimsun> the index changed
[03:37] <crimsun> your onboard is now the default
[03:38] <crimsun> all you need to do is type (in a Konsole): asoundconf set-default-card CMI8738MC6
[03:38] <crimsun> then log out of KDE and back in
[03:39] <sotired> ok...ill try it now
[03:39] <sotired> thanks crimsun
[03:39] <linuxmonkey> crimsun: you know how to map my windows key to bring up kmenu? without using keytouch
[03:39] <sotired> ill be back and let u know if it works
[03:39] <sotired> oooh
[03:40] <sotired> i didnt even have to restart
[03:40] <sotired> thank you. any idea what woul have caused that to happen?
[03:40] <crimsun> sotired: it's just the way things are.
[03:40] <sotired> i see
[03:40] <sotired> have a good evening
[03:40] <crimsun> sotired: you can't easily enforce pci dev init order
[03:40] <Frederick> does anyone know any master system emulator for linux?
[03:40] <Kingbuzzo> is there a way to setup grub to boot either suse, windows, and kubuntu as choices?
[03:41] <Kingbuzzo> Frederick: SMSPLUS
[03:41] <elie> i want 2 creat a shortcut in usr/local/lib and it tellz me no permission??
[03:42] <andersje2> elie: preface your command with 'sudo'
[03:42] <Frederick> Kingbuzzo, isnt it windows only?
[03:43] <Kingbuzzo> huh?
[03:43] <elie> what is the command 2 creat a shortcut?
[03:43] <andersje2> ln
[03:43] <Frederick> Kingbuzzo, I want a emulator for linux
[03:43] <andersje2> elie: what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:43] <Kingbuzzo> ya it's linux
[03:43] <andersje2> Frederick: try wine
[03:43] <andersje2> frederick: sorry, try usermode linux
[03:43] <Kingbuzzo> it was ported to dreamcast as well
[03:44] <elie> making a link of libogg.so.0 in usrr/local/lib
[03:44] <elie> making a link of libogg.so.0 in usr/local/lib
[03:44] <Frederick> andersje2, ?
[03:44] <andersje2> ln -s /usr/local/lib/libogg.so.0 /wherever/new/link/linkname.so
[03:45] <andersje2> stick sudo in front of the whole bunch if you have to, elie:
[03:45] <elie> k will try it thnx
[03:45] <andersje2> frederick: usermode linux lets you run an entire system under your main linux system
[03:47] <andersje2> frederick: oh, wait, I didn't see the whole question.  You're trying to run a game under linux?  What game, and for what architecture?
[03:48] <Frederick> andersje2, I want a master system emulator for linux
[03:50] <Fiyawerx> test
[03:50] <Fiyawerx> can you make a transparent background in konversation? or just xchat
[03:51] <Frederick> bah they have emulator for all but master system
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> Frederick: Try Osmose
[03:53] <andersje2> what's a master system?
[03:53] <Kingbuzzo> yikes....
[03:53] <Kingbuzzo> where were you in the 90's
[03:53] <Kingbuzzo> I mean
[03:53] <Kingbuzzo> 80's
[03:53] <andersje2> I had an Apple ] [ then.
[03:54] <andersje2> nite all
[03:54] <Kingbuzzo> the sega master system preceeded the mega drive
[03:54] <Kingbuzzo> ugh
[03:55] <Frederick> 90's please
[03:56] <h3sp4wn> But did you ever complete phantasy star ?
[03:56] <Kingbuzzo> I got stuck in a dungeon and that was is
[03:56] <Kingbuzzo> it^
[03:56] <francesjan> hello, i wanted to print to a Win2k server with HP3744 printer... i can see the printjob but the job won't go through the printer. :( ?
[03:56] <Frederick> h3sp4wn, it isnt in apt =/
[03:58] <fiyawerx> test
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> Frederick: There is loads you just need to compile them
[03:59] <Frederick> h3sp4wn, I wanna a static linked zip :p
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> Frederick: You are not getting it from me
[04:00] <linuxmonkey> !skype
[04:00] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:00] <Frederick> !money
[04:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about money
[04:01] <elie> what is LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded
[04:01] <Kingbuzzo> !xmame
[04:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about xmame
[04:01] <Kingbuzzo> !raine
[04:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about raine
[04:01] <Kingbuzzo> !ardour
[04:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about ardour
[04:01] <Kingbuzzo> !hydrogen
[04:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about hydrogen
[04:01] <Kingbuzzo> gah
[04:01] <elie> any1 tried the new ati driverz?
[04:02] <Frederick> name a mastersystem game
[04:03] <Frederick> oki altered beast
[04:03] <fiyawerx> hmm, do you guys like xchat or konversation better?
[04:03] <Frederick> I will leave social life
[04:03] <Cornellius> What's the easiest way to install Reiser4 on Ubuntu ?
[04:04] <Hawkwind> fiyawerx: I prefer Xchat simply because I've helped do somethings with it over the years
[04:04] <crimsun> Cornellius: I'm pretty sure I answered that yesterday
[04:04] <fiyawerx> Hawkwind, nice, i kinda like it, messing around with the transparent backgrounds now, but not sure if i like them, messing with font colors
[04:05] <Cornellius> crimsun: Maybe, but I was on another computer so I don,t have the logs.
[04:13] <fiyawerx> test
[04:14] <erov> wolf et time :p see y'all later ;)
[04:14] <Hawkwind> Failed
[04:14] <fiyawerx> hehe
[04:14] <fiyawerx> weird, i changed my konversation colors around and every other name on my list is missing
[04:14] <fiyawerx> i can't stand looking at black text on white backgrounds
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> fiyawerx: Do you know of a kde theme that uses mostly black and grey ?
[04:15] <fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: nope, kinda been configuring things myself for now
[04:15] <fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: app by app
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> fiyawerx: I am using the next colours
[04:16] <h3sp4wn> fiyawerx: But I want a grey instead of white background
[04:16] <fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: i didn't even think of doing the theme thing hehe
[04:16] <fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: will look around and let you know if i come up with anything
[04:17] <h3sp4wn> fiyawerx: I need to sleep immediately (so I can't look now)
[04:17] <fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: no problem, i'll be up all night :)
[04:17] <elie> any1 got serious sam?
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> fiyawerx: Its 3:18 am here which is early for me by recent standards
[04:18] <fiyawerx> :)
[04:18] <Hawkwind> Does Kubuntu run a firewall by default ?
[04:19] <claydoh> no, Hawkwind
[04:19] <claydoh> but it does not have any open ports by default iirc
[04:20] <Hawkwind> claydoh: If it runs no firewall then ports would be handled by my router, correct
[04:20] <claydoh> yup
[04:28] <Hawkwind> claydoh: I'm trying to run bittorrent and it tells me that port 6881 is blacklisted.  Yet I have that port open in my router
[04:29] <fiyawerx> do you have your router forwarding the port to your machine? or just not blocked
[04:29] <claydoh> it may take a few moments, have you stopped/restarted bittorren?
[04:29] <Hawkwind> fiyawerx: It's open and forwarded to this machine
[04:30] <Hawkwind> claydoh: Even the site tells me I'm not connectable :(
[04:30] <claydoh> ya, what fiyawerx  said :)
[04:31] <claydoh> on my linsys wired router it always took a few moments
[04:31] <fiyawerx> I just put myself in the dmz with my router
[04:31] <fiyawerx> claydoh: same with dlink wireless
[04:31] <Hawkwind> This worked fine in Mandriva a few days ago.  I've changed nothing except my OS
[04:31] <claydoh> I y=turned on upnp in my router and use ktorrent, which opens the ports automagically
[04:32] <os2mac> has anyone installed on an inpspiron 8600 and had problems with the wireless nic (it's a broadcom nic)
[04:32] <fiyawerx> too bad ktorrent doesn't run as a daemon
[04:32] <fiyawerx> oh, ncie
[04:32] <fiyawerx> nice rather
[04:32] <claydoh> ya :)
[04:32] <fiyawerx> never had much luck with upnp, might give it a shot, i need to upgrade my router firmware as it is
[04:33] <fiyawerx> i do static ip, so all i really need to forward is 22 as far as I know so i can SSH / !M in from work
[04:33] <os2mac> anyone?
[04:34] <claydoh> os2mac: afaik *lots* of folks have probs with broadcom
[04:35] <Hawkwind> claydoh: Even ktorrent won't download anything :(
[04:35] <claydoh> :(
[04:35] <Hawkwind> Something within Kubuntu is blocking it or not allowing it
[04:35] <os2mac> claydoh... usually I have to use ndiswrapper...but when I installed the new ver it actually detected the nic as eth1 this time.... but won't let me configure it.
[04:35] <yur> what is a good firewall 4 linux?
[04:35] <Hawkwind> yur: IpKungFu
[04:36] <yur> that xist lol,thnx
[04:36] <jason> how do i mount a new hard drive that i just installed?
[04:36] <Hawkwind> claydoh: Any ideas what could be stopping this ?
[04:37] <claydoh> no, not really
[04:37] <larson9999> Hawkwind: don't know this helps but as you know i switched from mandriva recently on this box and like you have only changed my OS.  but ktorrent works just fine for me
[04:37] <claydoh> in ktorrent, if your router has upnp enabled, there is a plugin for it in ktorrent's settinngs
[04:37] <Hawkwind> claydoh: In fact, I've opened up ports 8000 - 9000 and still says I'm not connectable
[04:38] <Hawkwind> claydoh: I have a Linksys WRT54G router
[04:39] <yur> HawKind:i nstalled ipkungfu but cant find it?
[04:39] <claydoh> I dunno, sorry never had issues with  bittorrent once i got the ports sset up
[04:40] <os2mac> surely someone has resolved this by now....
[04:40] <os2mac> I have checked the kbuntu forums and nothing.
[04:40] <claydoh> ut it did take a bit to see the changes take effect
[04:40] <fiyawerx> doh, ktorrent closes when you X it doesn't it
[04:40] <fiyawerx> hmm
[04:41] <claydoh> not if you enablr the taskbar icon
[04:41] <fiyawerx> if i used a console bittorrent client, i could nohup it and let it run after i closed my session right?
[04:41] <Hawkwind> Strange.  Absolutely nothing has changed on this system except for my OS from Mandriva to Kubuntu and I can't download anything via bittorrent or any other torrent client
[04:41] <yur> HawKind:i nstalled ipkungfu but cant find it?
[04:41] <fiyawerx> Hawkwind: installed any firewalls with Ubuntu?
[04:42] <fiyawerx> Hawkwind: you sure your dhcp lease didn't expire and your router is forwarding to the wrong machine?
[04:42] <TheHighChild> os2mac pastebin your ifconfig
[04:42] <robotgeek> fiyawerx: use screen
[04:42] <fiyawerx> robotgeek: oh, right :)
[04:42] <mcrandello> the "menu" package doesn't really do anything does it?
[04:42] <fiyawerx> robotgeek: any suggestion on a good console bt client?
[04:43] <os2mac> HighChild do you want ifconfig -a?
[04:43] <robotgeek> fiyawerx: btdownloadcurses.py
[04:43] <Hawkwind> fiyawerx: No firewalls.  The ports have been forwarded for years.  I use internal static
[04:43] <claydoh> odd
[04:43] <mcrandello> does anyone know the package that provides the "debian" menu? I can't seem to find it anymore
[04:44] <TheHighChild> os2mac: Either is fine
[04:44] <robotgeek> menu-xdg maybe? mcrandello
[04:44] <os2mac> stand by... I am trying to configure it with iwconfig.... that plus I can
[04:44] <os2mac> 't have both nic's active at the same time
[04:45] <mcrandello> robotgeek: I already have that one installed
[04:45] <mcrandello> oh wait it's on there
[04:45] <TheHighChild> os2mac: ok man. I'm not a pro at wireless, recently got my own running. Sometimes I have to do 'sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup ath0' and then it'll git'r'dun
[04:45] <mcrandello> they changed where they put the debian menu at some point
[04:46] <claydoh> menu is located in Universe
[04:46] <claydoh> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/admin/menu
[04:48] <fiyawerx> robotgeek: thats bittornado?
[04:48] <robotgeek> fiyawerx: i think so. lemme look deeper
[04:49] <moruan> help~~~something about coreutils
[04:50] <robotgeek> fiyawerx: i think so
[04:50] <fiyawerx> yep, looks like i got it, apt-got bittornado and now its there, will try it out, thanks
[04:50] <fiyawerx> robotgeek: thanks
[04:51] <moruan> how to upgrade coretils ???????? ~~~~~~~~ in a hurry
[04:51] <robotgeek> moruan: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:52] <moruan> apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't work
[04:52] <robotgeek> moruan: what is the exact issue you are facing?
[04:52] <mcrandello> !mp3
[04:52] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:53] <moruan> when i update my breezy5.10 to 6.06 , the coreutils it requires doesn't match the one i installed
[04:53] <moruan> how to solve this kind of problem ? does anyone know something about it
[04:54] <robotgeek> moruan: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[04:54] <moruan> no i have gtk-desktop installed
[04:55] <arcturus> !windows
[04:55] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[04:55] <moruan> i have gnome-desktop installed
[04:56] <moruan> how to remove the former coreutils ? i know nothing about kernel , so ~~~ any information is appriciated
[04:56] <robotgeek> moruan: have ubuntu-desktop installed, and do the upgrade. it should happen smoothly then
[04:57] <moruan> it doesn't work smooth to me
[04:58] <robotgeek> do you have it installed? what is the specific error you are getting, please paste it
[04:58] <moruan> the infromation released by the system is : dpkg , predepends : coreutils ( >= 5.93-1) but 5.2.1-2ubuntu2 is installed
[04:59] <moruan> and apt-get install -f doesn't work either
[05:01] <robotgeek> moruan: might ask in #ubuntu, i am lost
[05:01] <mcrandello> anyone know how to make xmms play mp3's if it won't even after installing xmms-mad?
[05:01] <moruan> o~ , i make a try
[05:02] <OOD> xmms should play mp3's by default
[05:02] <dr_willis> 'do not try, do, young jedi'
[05:02] <dr_willis> :)
[05:02] <dr_willis> The source is strong with this one.
[05:02] <mcrandello> it doesn't ;_;
[05:02] <larson9999> OOD: isn't there something illegal about that?
[05:02] <OOD> weird o.o
[05:03] <OOD> no, why?
[05:03] <mcrandello> larson9999: depends on where you are, doesn't it?
[05:03] <OOD> that too
[05:03] <larson9999> mcrandello: i think so.  so by default seems to be not the way to go
[05:03] <mcrandello> right
[05:04] <dr_willis> i dodent think it did.
[05:04] <dr_willis> but i install all sorts of packages so not sure how the default is
[05:04] <mcrandello> !xmms
[05:04] <ubotu> Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs
[05:04] <larson9999> i don't worry much about those pesky licenses on my personal machine though
[05:05] <OOD> who does ;)
[05:05] <dr_willis> i tend to not worry agbout them at all. :P
[05:05] <dr_willis> Bill Gates
[05:05] <dr_willis> :P
[05:06] <sotired> how can i tell if my nvidia drivers are correctly installed? i have a geforce fx5500 and even screen savers have a painfully low framerate
[05:06] <OOD> yea just installed xmms, mp3's play by default
[05:06] <arcturus> mcrandello: type xmms from console
[05:06] <OOD> sotired: run glxgears
[05:06] <sotired> ok
[05:06] <sotired> thankyou
[05:06] <mcrandello> arcturus: done
[05:06] <OOD> sotired: if it's slow, then you don't have driver
[05:06] <arcturus> mcrandello:  error message?
[05:07] <larson9999> sotired: yeah even though people will tell you glxgears isn't a good test, it's good enough :)
[05:07] <OOD> yep
[05:07] <sotired> didnt work
[05:07] <sotired> error
[05:07] <larson9999> sotired: or if you get an error
[05:07] <OOD> then you don't have it
[05:07] <mcrandello> arcturus: It can't find libmikmod
[05:07] <mcrandello> weird though, it worked from the console
[05:07] <OOD> do this: sudo apt-get nvidia-glx
[05:07] <larson9999> sotired: i have an fx5500 too so you shouldn't have too much trouble getting it to work
[05:07] <OOD> then sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:07] <OOD> and restart X
[05:08] <arcturus> mcrandello:  looks like part of the smoking gun
[05:08] <OOD> restart X isn't a command btw
[05:08] <dr_willis> 'and restart X' command not found. :P
[05:08] <TheHighChild> OOD what does nvidia-xconfig do?
[05:09] <larson9999> sotired: this site talkes you through it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713
[05:09] <OOD> it sets your xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver
[05:09] <OOD> so no manual xorg.conf editing :P
[05:09] <TheHighChild> Is that different than 'nvidia-glx-config enable'?
[05:09] <sotired> when i type sudo apt-get nvidia-glx its says invalid operation
[05:09] <arcturus> 00D: how do you pull fps running glxgears?
[05:09] <TheHighChild> apt-get install sotired
[05:10] <OOD> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:10] <arcturus> terminal shows no fps info
[05:10] <larson9999> sortired need an install in there.  check that site it has commands you can just cut and paste
[05:10] <OOD> sorry forgot the install part :)
[05:10] <dr_willis> !glxgears
[05:10] <ubotu> To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[05:10] <arcturus> thanks doc
[05:10] <moparisthebest> hmm, I wonder if any of you can help me, for no obbbbbbbbvious reason at all and at seemingly random times and with different keys and differeeeeeeeeent programs i get repeating letters
[05:10] <moparisthebest> its not my keyboard and im not hoooooooolding the key too long
[05:10] <TheHighChild> OOD:  We all do, how is that 'nvidia-xconfig' different than 'nvidia-glx-config enable' or is tehre none?
[05:11] <sotired> ok...ill restart x and see how it worked
[05:11] <larson9999> moparisthebest: i was having the same problem a couple weeks ago.
[05:11] <moparisthebest> I even reinstalled it yesterday and it worked fine all day yesterday
[05:11] <OOD> sotired wait
[05:11] <moparisthebest> now its messed up again, how did you fix it larson9999 ?
[05:11] <sotired> ok
[05:11] <arcturus> lol, 10,500 fps on my system :)
[05:11] <OOD> if you don't get anything at all and your X is screwed
[05:11] <arcturus> guess the 7600GT isn't a bad card
[05:11] <sotired> i did it and it downloaded the driver
[05:11] <mcrandello> okay, so xmms _does_ play mp3's. Anyone know how to make kde get xmms to open them?
[05:12] <OOD> then press ctrl+alt+F1
[05:12] <OOD> to do a command line login
[05:12] <larson9999> moparisthebest: i don't really know i did.  i was also noticing some slow downs and did a top and saw all sorts of crap running i didn't need.  uninstalled a bunch of them and things have been ok ever since
[05:12] <mcrandello> I set xmms as the default, when I click on the file xmms opens with the file but does not play it. Pressing play does nothing at all
[05:12] <sotired> ok...i just did it and cam back. hitting f7..how do i do a command line log on?
[05:12] <TheHighChild> sotired 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-6-28-06' that will backup your xorg.conf in case you need to restore it
[05:12] <OOD> wait
[05:12] <sotired> ok :0
[05:13] <sotired> :)
[05:13] <OOD> this is a 'just in case thing'
[05:13] <OOD> if kde doesn't start because of a failed nvidia install
[05:13] <sotired> an 'oh shit' plan?
[05:13] <moparisthebest> larson9999, problem        is Im new with linux and I dont know what I NEED running and what I dont
[05:13] <arcturus> mcrandello:  and if you right click, then open with xmms the same behavior?
[05:13] <OOD> yea lol
[05:13] <OOD> k then do : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:13] <mcrandello> arcturus: yep
[05:13] <OOD> and everything wil be back to normal next reboot
[05:14] <sotired> so i should type that in console or the command line?
[05:14] <sotired> *konsole
[05:14] <arcturus> mcrandello:  have you uninstalled, then reinstalled xmms with syaptic?
[05:14] <larson9999> moparisthebest: sorry i didn't take better notes but i really don't know what the problem was.  i just know i'd hit space and it'd type 5 of them
[05:14] <TheHighChild> ood why not have him cp his backup xorg?  LOL, that's a new one.
[05:16] <dr_willis> LO
[05:16] <mcrandello> arcturus: haven't tried from the livecd
[05:16] <sotired> basically..
[05:16] <cfreire> hello everybody...
[05:16] <larson9999> sotired: if you follow instructions and things still don't work you might have an issue that me and others have had with dapper.  that is that it thinks your card is and intel something or other.  you can check that by doing an lsmod.
[05:16] <sotired> got laid off anyway...goign back to college for comp sci
[05:16] <TheHighChild> Same thing with Red Hat certs.
[05:16] <arcturus> mcrandello: this happened to me once but forgot the solution ... if there was one
[05:16] <OOD> lol, you get too many backups with installing drivers, i got about 6 of them now
[05:16] <cfreire> somebody can help me with pxe install, please.
[05:17] <OOD> kinda useless isn't it?
[05:17] <sotired> im not worried about back ups..if its fried i can live with it
[05:17] <sotired> i can just re-install
[05:17] <sotired> so should i just restart and see what happens
[05:17] <OOD> k so sotired: restart X, if it doesn't work you'll get a blank screen with a logo
[05:17] <sotired> i like to live on the edge
[05:18] <sotired> ok...ill be back...i hope
[05:18] <larson9999> unless you change more than the normal stuff, i don't see much benefit in backing up xorg.conf.  other than it's good practice :)
[05:18] <OOD> then press ctr+alt+f1 for a command line login
[05:18] <sotired> how do  i log in form the command line
[05:18] <mcrandello> arcturus: at least I can D&D on top of it
[05:18] <sotired> just type kdm?
[05:18] <mcrandello> sotired: <ctrl><alt><F1> then use your user/pass same as in the graphical setup
[05:18] <OOD> no you'll automatically be asked for username hten passowrd
[05:18] <sotired> ok
[05:19] <OOD> and then you'll be at the command line
[05:19] <OOD> then just do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:19] <OOD> and everything will be back to normal
[05:19] <bonbonthejon> what does -phigh do
[05:19] <OOD> i actually don't know :P
[05:19] <OOD> just that it works :D
[05:20] <OOD> sotired: you set?
[05:20] <sotired> im a little confused...why am i doing that last part?
[05:20] <sotired> yeh i logged in
[05:20] <OOD> that's if when you restart X and your driver doesn't work and you get a blank screen with a logo
[05:20] <sotired> oh ok
[05:20] <OOD> it's just in case things go wrong
[05:21] <sotired> be right back
[05:21] <OOD> k
[05:21] <OOD> let's hope he comes back :D
[05:21] <larson9999> sometimes you don't get the logo.  at least i don't
[05:21] <OOD> you just get a black screen?
[05:21] <larson9999> OOD: sometimes
[05:22] <sotired> no...i hit log out_>end session and then i logged back in
[05:22] <sotired> everything looks normal
[05:22] <sotired> so i guess it worked
[05:22] <OOD> you have to press one of the buttons and click restart X
[05:22] <OOD> before you log back in
[05:22] <larson9999> sotired: got to run something glx to be sure, too
[05:22] <OOD> nothing happened yet
[05:23] <OOD> he didnt restart X
[05:23] <larson9999> yeah
[05:23] <larson9999> that's the reason for the too
[05:23] <mcrandello> glxinfo -printfps
[05:23] <sotired> ok i did restart x server
[05:23] <sotired> it worked...screen saver loks normal
[05:24] <sotired> thank you very much
[05:24] <OOD> you got an nvidia logo at start?
[05:24] <sotired> no...
[05:24] <larson9999> then it didn't work
[05:24] <sotired> but my framerates are better
[05:24] <sotired> damnit
[05:24] <OOD> lol
[05:24] <sotired> give me logog or give me death
[05:24] <larson9999> unless you disabled the logo
[05:24] <OOD> wait you don't get the nvidia logo unless you reboot i beleive
[05:25] <sotired> i tired gglx gears again and ive got gears
[05:25] <OOD> so everything should be fine
[05:25] <bonbonthejon> where can I set up for my volume up and down buttons to work in KDE
[05:25] <mcrandello> maybe -phigh disables the logo
[05:25] <larson9999> oh, then it did
[05:25] <mcrandello> ;P
[05:25] <OOD> no it doesnt
[05:25] <sotired> w00t
[05:25] <sotired> im l33t cuz i have drivers
[05:25] <OOD> works fine if everything is working
[05:25] <sotired> sorry...i had too
[05:25] <OOD> lol
[05:25] <sotired> thanks again
[05:25] <OOD> np :)
[05:25] <sotired> have a good evening
[05:25] <mcrandello> I think I finally got drivers too now. I had to wait for the 8.26.18 ATI drivers and then reinstall
[05:25] <cfreire> hello...
[05:26] <OOD> hey
[05:26] <mcrandello> you're lucky if you have nvidia
[05:26] <OOD> yep :D
[05:26] <bonbonthejon> anyone? where can I set up for my volume up and down buttons to work in KDE?
[05:26] <larson9999> mcrandello: i was going to ask if ati is good enough to think about buying one... guess not.
[05:26] <mcrandello> also I'm afraid to update the thing now for fear the freezing will come back
[05:26] <OOD> lol, yea ati's a lot of trouble right now
[05:26] <mcrandello> larson9999: they're great cards, the drivers, not so much. At least they seem to be trying
[05:27] <jinho> hi i installed apache, mysql, and php on my system yesterday, but today I can't boot up into kubuntu- is there a way to uninstall these three to try to get the system runnign again?
[05:27] <arcturus> bonbon: what volume up & down buttons?
[05:27] <cfreire> talk about pxe install, please...
[05:27] <mcrandello> of course this is a 200m on a laptop so ymmv
[05:27] <bonbonthejon> arc: on an hp laptop
[05:27] <OOD> jinho: you can't boot in anymore?
[05:27] <larson9999> mcrandello: i tried an nvidia and ati years ago(2000?) and nvidia was the only one i got working so i haven't tried ati since
[05:27] <jinho> OOD: the OS wont load- I get a blank screen when I should be getting the blue Kubuntu loader
[05:28] <larson9999> but from what i read ati does seem to be trying more
[05:28] <mcrandello> larson9999: I remember when ATI was the card to get for linux (the mach64 era)
[05:28] <jinho> OOD: when I go into safe mode, I can do the command line stuff, but I cant get back into the GUI by exit
[05:28] <OOD> jinho: try pressing ctrol+alt+f1 for a command line login
[05:28] <mcrandello> bonbonthejon: you mean the "Fn" key combo for the volume?
[05:28] <larson9999> mccrandle yeah. i think i had s3 until 2000
[05:28] <OOD> then try uninstalling the programs with apt-get
[05:28] <arcturus> bonbon: possibly a key bindings thing
[05:29] <jinho> OOD: I tried apt-get remove mysql
[05:29] <bonbonthejon> mcran, no there are small buttons on the side for vol up and down and mute
[05:29] <jinho> and it said it wasnt installed...
[05:29] <jinho> but I did install it yesterday
[05:29] <jinho> wich is so weird
[05:29] <bonbonthejon> arc, where do I do a key binding
[05:30] <OOD> jinho: wierd, and this is from php\mysql\apache? i.0
[05:30] <larson9999> Hawkwind: get bittorrent working?
[05:30] <jinho> OOD: at this point that's what I think since those are the last things I did
[05:30] <arcturus> bonbon: uncertain, maybe a 'key binding kde' google query
[05:30] <jinho> OOD: I also tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but no luck
[05:31] <bonbonthejon> arc, I found how to do it, but when I try pushing the button for kde to recognize it, I get nothing
[05:31] <Hawkwind> larson9999: No.  But I managed to get ktorrent working for a couple of sites.  Not the one I really want it to work with
[05:32] <larson9999> Hawkwind: got a link i could try?
[05:32] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Ummm, it's invite only
[05:32] <Hawkwind> Heh
[05:32] <mcrandello> bonbonthejon: this may help http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2006/04/mapping-unsupported-keys-with-xmodmap.html
[05:32] <OOD> jinho: hmm, try logging in through the command line and do startx, it'll tell you at the end what the problem might be
[05:32] <larson9999> time to make the doughnuts
[05:32] <jinho> so do CTRL ALT F1
[05:32] <jinho> then log in
[05:33] <mcrandello> bonbonthejon: it's a bit dense but if xev will recognize the buttons there's a chance it will work
[05:33] <jinho> and type startx?
[05:33] <bonbonthejon> mcran, thanks, i'll look into it
[05:33] <cfreire> hola. alguien escribe en espaol?
[05:33] <mcrandello> bonbonthejon: I actually need to figure out my Fn keys on the toshiba
[05:33] <OOD> yes, that's the command to start X, it;ll give you feedback on what the problem might be
[05:33] <bonbonthejon> mcran, guess we're in the same boat
[05:34] <arcturus> lol, seems everyone runs laptops these days
[05:34] <jinho> kk
[05:34] <OOD> i don't :D
[05:34] <jinho> brb
[05:34] <arcturus> me neither :)
[05:34] <arcturus> less trouble
[05:34] <bonbonthejon> night all
[05:35] <mcrandello> later, good luch
[05:35] <mcrandello> luck
[05:35] <OOD> although a new screen would be nice, my crt replaces my heater :(
[05:35] <cfreire> hola, hola...
[05:37] <macd> how is it traceroute isnt installed by default on kubuntu
[05:37] <macd> teh quirks they're killing me
[05:37] <TheHighChild> Laptops are great! Who wants to drink a beer siting in their 90 degree computer room? I'd rather smoke one and have a few beers with my dog on my hammock
[05:38] <mcrandello> I miss the heat output, sitting in a 67F server operations room
[05:38] <TheHighChild> mcrandello: ditto here, cept we're at 69
[05:38] <TheHighChild> getting some new edpacs this month, prolly push it to around 60
[05:39] <crimsun> macd: tracepath is
[05:39] <macd> we hover ~62
[05:39] <mcrandello> at least we haven't gotten rid of the as/400's dumb term
[05:39] <macd> yes@tracepath, but I dont know these "new" things ;P
[05:39] <arcturus> macd: kmenu > system > network tools
[05:39] <crimsun> macd: then install traceroute{,-nanog} ;)
[05:39] <macd> oh yes, I did
[05:39] <jinho> ODD: this is very strange
[05:40] <jinho> ODD: I'm in kubuntu now, but I seem to be using a restricted version...
[05:40] <OOD> you got in?
[05:40] <jinho> yeah
[05:40] <TheHighChild> mcrandello: Are you an operator or just working in the MR?
[05:40] <jinho> but this is definately different from how it normally is
[05:40] <OOD> so something's not right with the startup
[05:40] <OOD> how's it restricted?
[05:40] <jinho> i guess not
[05:40] <jinho> well for starters my home folder is all different
[05:40] <mcrandello> TheHighChild: lowly pfy
[05:41] <OOD> i think you got in as root
[05:41] <TheHighChild> mcrandello: pfy?
[05:41] <arcturus> network tools has ping, netstat, traceroute, port scan ...
[05:41] <jinho> ah you're right
[05:41] <jinho> lol
[05:41] <OOD> how though lol?
[05:41] <jinho> i dunno
[05:41] <mcrandello> pimply faced youth, as opposed to bofh
[05:41] <OOD> you logged in as root at the command line?
[05:41] <mcrandello> bastard operator from hell
[05:41] <jinho> i went in through recovery mode cuz that was the only way the system was responding
[05:42] <mcrandello> I just make sure nothing blows up :)
[05:42] <jinho> OOD: ctrl alt f1 will let me sign in as my account?
[05:42] <mcrandello> jinho: yes
[05:42] <OOD> it should've when you got that bkacl screen
[05:42] <flake> good evening
[05:42] <TheHighChild> mcrandello: Gotcha, I'm an Op. Glorified tape monkey. About my only saving grace is the name I work for.  I can test the sounds in the configure page, and I hear a bit of ringing, but then it sez problem with sound device
[05:43] <mcrandello> working for the florida state university system. Not much for the resume but free classes+job security :)
[05:43] <OOD> pussfeller: yes, it sucks though :(
[05:43] <OOD> the only new thing is alsa support
[05:43] <TheHighChild> mcrandello: Carnegie Mellon University, School of Computer Science over here. Secure, yes, classes yes, satisfaction, not a drop
[05:44] <nixternal> !multiverse
[05:44] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:44] <pussfeller> OOD: i keep getting sound problems still tho
[05:44] <pussfeller> and call failed, i dont get it
[05:44] <OOD> well it is beta
[05:45] <pussfeller> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:762:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream
[05:45] <mcrandello> night all!
[05:46] <jinho> OOD: lol so weird, it worked now
[05:46] <OOD> o___0
[05:46] <jinho> i love kubuntu, but sometimes i just get so confused by it
[05:47] <flake> same here
[05:47] <OOD> yea there's a learning curve, you get the hang of it after a while :)
[05:48] <Kr4t05> jinho, just be patient, and you'll be learning it in no time.
[05:48] <Kr4t05> :)
[05:50] <flake> so far I learned how to mount my ntfs drives as read only, and can run a few windoze programs using wine
[05:51] <jinho> flake: which programs are these?
[05:51] <flake> i installed wine and can now run a few windows programs
[05:51] <TheHighChild> jinho: Personally I have Dreamweaver and Picasa running through Wine
[05:52] <jinho> TheHighChild: Dreamweaver 8?
[05:52] <flake> used the package manager to install wine
[05:52] <TheHighChild> jinho: No, MX
[05:52] <jinho> TheHighChild: Do you have flash installed as well by chance?
[05:52] <TheHighChild> jinho: No, I haven't tried it.
[05:52] <flake> i'm having problems with flash 8+, can't see the quake et site
[05:53] <jinho> how's the speed compared to windows?
[05:53] <flake> i tried installing via the opera and firefox too
[05:53] <jinho> flake: what do you mean quake et site?
[05:53] <TheHighChild> jinho: honestly, I would suggest looking into Crossover Office, its better and easier than Wine
[05:53] <flake> yes
[05:53] <TheHighChild> is there flash 8 support for tux yet?
[05:53] <TheHighChild> probably ET Quake Wars
[05:53] <flake> right
[05:54] <TheHighChild> flake: As far as I know (isn't much) flash 8 isn't supported on Tux yet
[05:54] <flake> the next two to three missing years of where my life will go
[05:54] <TheHighChild> flake: You play ET?
[05:54] <flake> yes, i have been for a few years
[05:55] <flake> have alot of other stuff but always come back to et
[05:55] <TheHighChild> flake: Look me up on the LOA and Shiat-Storm servers sometime
[05:55] <flake> ok, you gave me the SS link the other night I think
[05:55] <flake> i tried the insane ip but it was empty, it was late too
[05:56] <TheHighChild> flake: That is our flagship server but it's been empty because we've been testing a new mod, no quarter. A few of my friends made it
[05:57] <flake> ok cool
[05:57] <OOD> *remembeer about et and goes to download*
[05:57] <moparisthebest> has anyone on here ever instttttttalled doom3 on kubuntu?
[05:57] <OOD> remembers*
[05:57] <TheHighChild> OOD need a link?
[05:57] <OOD> if you got a fast one sure, i can never find a good link :)
[05:57] <TheHighChild> ood http://www.shitstormfiles.com/utilities/
[05:58] <moparisthebest> does anyone know how to install or fix opengl? ;p
[05:58] <TheHighChild> right click and save as
[05:58] <moparisthebest> a really fast link is this:
[05:58] <moparisthebest> hold on
[05:58] <flake> would any windows with their dll directx9 run poorly here under wine compared to windows?
[05:58] <OOD> opengl is with the nvidia driver
[05:58] <moparisthebest> it couldnt find it OOD
[05:58] <OOD> if it's an opengl game it runs very well
[05:58] <TheHighChild> take care guys, I'm out
[05:58] <OOD> unreal 2004 works better in wine than the native version
[05:58] <moparisthebest> i installed some opengl things from adept
[05:58] <flake> see you THC
[05:58] <moparisthebest> and now it cannnnnnnt open the X display
[05:58] <TheHighChild> OOD that file should download pretty fast ~1MBps
[05:58] <moparisthebest> w/e that mmmmmmmeans :(
[05:59] <OOD> TheHighChild: thanks
[05:59] <moparisthebest> http://zerowing.idsoftware.com:6969/
[05:59] <moparisthebest> there OOD its a         torrent straight from id
[05:59] <moparisthebest> 462 mb downloaded in 15 minutes for me
[06:00] <jinho> what is this torrent for?
[06:00] <OOD> enemy territory
[06:00] <OOD> whoah fastest torrent ever
[06:01] <jinho> demo?
[06:01] <OOD> nvm it dropped to 150k :(
[06:02] <OOD> no the game is freeware
[06:02] <flake> no et is full version
[06:04] <flake> do the applets on my panel such as the clipboard, time, trashcan, and i added the terminal - take up alot of cpu resource or memory?  does it matter?
[06:04] <jinho> o shit...gotta get me it
[06:04] <jinho> lol
[06:04] <jinho> which one is this?
[06:04] <flake> and while i'm playing ET, is there a hotkey i can hit to switch me to Desktop 2?
[06:05] <OOD> flake: i've always wondered that, i miss being able to minimize a game the way you can in windows
[06:05] <flake> in windows tho, i've never been able to minimize et
[06:06] <flake> only pull up the task bar
[06:06] <OOD> not et, but other games
[06:06] <flake> right
[06:06] <jinho> wait enemy territory is freeware?
[06:06] <OOD> if you guys are into games then you should check this oen out: http://www.tremulous.net/index.php?section=about
[06:06] <OOD> yes it is
[06:07] <flake> yes, and it still rocks
[06:07] <jinho> how exactly does this work?
[06:07] <jinho> since when was ID into freeware?
[06:07] <OOD> check the game i just posted a link too
[06:07] <OOD> amazing game with a slight mix with rts on the q3 engine
[06:07] <jinho> http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/enemyterritoryquakewars/screenindex.html
[06:07] <jinho> this isnt the same thing though
[06:08] <OOD> no this is quake wars
[06:08] <jinho> lol
[06:08] <OOD> that's something different
[06:08] <OOD> yea
[06:08] <jinho> yeah ok my jaws were dropping when I thought this was the free thing
[06:08] <OOD> heh
[06:08] <jinho> you mean enemy territory wolfenstein?
[06:08] <OOD> enemy territory was supposed to be an expansion to castel wofenstein
[06:08] <OOD> yea
[06:09] <jinho> ahh now it makes sense lol
[06:09] <moparisthebest> when I try to install the latest nvidia driver, it says I       have to end the X server, hhhhhhhhow would I do that?
[06:09] <jinho> will a radeon 9200 suffice for it?
[06:09] <OOD> for enemy territory? deffinitely
[06:09] <OOD> check this game out too:http://www.tremulous.net/index.php?section=about (yes i posted that link already :P)
[06:09] <malubankudi> any gentoo usrs in here?
[06:10] <Hawkwind> moparisthebest: telinit 3 or /etc/init.d/kdm stop or something similar
[06:10] <OOD> nope, mostly kubuntu :D
[06:10] <OOD> ctr+alt+backspace ?
[06:10] <OOD> easier then typing in the console
[06:10] <Hawkwind> OOD: That will take him back to the GUI, then he could do it from there too, sure
[06:11] <flake> tremulous looks interesting
[06:11] <bobstro> moparisthebest: /etc/init.d/kdm restart will shut it down and restart but yeah, ctl-alt-delete does too
[06:11] <Hawkwind> Just choose login into console from the GUI login screen
[06:11] <OOD> ctr+alt+backspace* not delete
[06:11] <bobstro> er yeah :)
[06:11] <Hawkwind> OOD: Right, that takes you back to the GUI login
[06:11] <moparisthebest> ok, thanks, ill try and hopeuflly be back soon :P
[06:11] <OOD> flake: that game's adictive :P it great
[06:11] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Good morning to ya :)
[06:11] <bobstro> or if you've got the keys screwed up, shift-backspace :)
[06:11] <Hawkwind> bobstro: Heh
[06:12] <OOD> Hawkwind: it also restarts X which is the idea :)
[06:12] <Hawkwind> bobstro: Speaking from experience are ya ?
[06:12] <bobstro> Hawkwind: finally fixed that one. somewhat annying.
[06:12] <Hawkwind> OOD: He wants to KILL X not restart it :P
[06:12] <bobstro> Hawkwind: yeah, not sure why, but i had to force the US keyboard.
[06:12] <bobstro> Hawkwind: thought he wanted to restart to see if the new driver worked?
[06:12] <Hobbsee> hi Hawkwind
[06:12] <OOD> he's installign the nvidia driver, he want's to restart it :D
[06:12] <Hawkwind> bobstro: No.  He's wanting to install them
[06:12] <bobstro> Hawkwind: ahm. i had no problem installing, then re-starting.
[06:12] <Hawkwind> OOD: He's installing from nvidia.com I thought.  Maybe I misunderstood him
[06:13] <bobstro> Hawkwind: i don't exactly see how stopping and then starting would be a lot different.
[06:13] <OOD> Hawkwind: hmm i think you're right
[06:13] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Hows life in Aussie land this morning
[06:13] <Hawkwind> bobstro: He needs to kill X, install the drivers from nvidia.com which require no X, then he can restart X after the install
[06:13] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: okay, didnt wake up that long ago, and it's 2pm
[06:13] <OOD> yea
[06:13] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Slacker!
[06:13] <Hawkwind> :P
[06:14] <OOD> why though, much easier with apt-get :D
[06:14] <Hawkwind> OOD: Maybe he doesn't know the apt-get way.  Would be my guess
[06:14] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: :P
[06:14] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: AU/UK and AU/US timezones are terrible
[06:14] <OOD> Hawkwind: guess we shoulda told him :P
[06:15] <Hawkwind> OOD: Heh.  Probably so
[06:15] <flake> what is xgl?  isn't k3d just as well?
[06:15] <bobstro> Hawkwind: i guess the windows way to would be to reboot.
[06:15] <Hawkwind> bobstro: Hah so true
[06:16] <Hawkwind> bobstro: Though now it seems there is a minimum of 10 reboots for anything you do in Windows
[06:16] <Hawkwind> flake: XGL and k3b are two totally different things
[06:16] <bobstro> only if you use the mouse
[06:16] <Hawkwind> k3b is burning software, XGL is graphics stuff
[06:16] <bobstro> yeah, but which is better?
[06:16] <OOD> lol, you cant compare them
[06:16] <OOD> theyre apples and volcanoes
[06:16] <kkathman> rofl
[06:17] <Hawkwind> LOL
[06:17] <flake> but if you throw the apple into the volcano they become as one
[06:17] <bobstro> someone should do a benchmarking article
[06:17] <Hawkwind> flake: No, the apples discentegrates actually
[06:17] <flake> so volcano is better than apple
[06:17] <flake> lol
[06:18] <OOD> lol moments like there remind me of bash .org
[06:18] <Hawkwind> OOD: Hah, I was thinking the same thing
[06:21] <Hawkwind> OOD: There he is, get him!
[06:21] <Hawkwind> Heh
[06:21] <Hawkwind> moparisthebest: Got nvidia working now ?
[06:21] <OOD> lol
[06:22] <Hawkwind> Hmmm, no response.  Usually not a good sign
[06:22] <OOD> nah he's fine, probably enjoying his new 3D accelaration :P
[06:23] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> is there a gui utility to test overclocked cpu stability?
[06:23] <Hawkwind> Probably got a game running full screen already
[06:23] <moparisthebest> no Hawkwind
[06:24] <moparisthebest> it said it couldnt find a driver for my kernel
[06:24] <moparisthebest> so it had to compile one
[06:24] <moparisthebest> but i didnt have a c compiler installed yet i guess
[06:24] <Hawkwind> moparisthebest: Why not apt-get the nvidia stuff ?
[06:24] <OOD> try compiling Wine, if it doesn't freeze while compiling then it's stable :D
[06:24] <Hawkwind> !nvidia
[06:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:24] <Hawkwind> OOD: LOL.  Hell of a thing to suggest
[06:24] <OOD> lol
[06:24] <moparisthebest> i guess i could do it the easy way with apt-get :P
[06:25] <moparisthebest> i guess im used to doing things the hard way
[06:25] <moparisthebest> just came from windows a few days ago :p
[06:25] <Hawkwind> moparisthebest: I was too when I ran Mandriva up til 5 days ago
[06:25] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> well , i wish i could compile wine , but it doesnt want to compile under x64
[06:25] <Hawkwind> I always installed the drivers from nvidia.com.  Now I use the Ubuntu pre-packaged stuff
[06:25] <thompa> ok, I think everything is ok now.
[06:25] <OOD> yea, just do sudo apt-get nvidia-glx
[06:26] <OOD> then sudo nvidia-xconfig and you're done
[06:26] <thompa> touchpad has been only issue
[06:26] <thompa> but then its sony vaio which has worst linux support in history
[06:27] <thompa> i can type tpoff and touchpad is off now
[06:28] <thompa> but i dont know what happened to qsynaptics it was working
[06:28] <flake> how do i run a .run file
[06:28] <OOD> where'd you get a .run file?
[06:28] <flake> i saved:   tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run   to my home folder
[06:28] <OOD> oh ok
[06:29] <Hawkwind> flake: sh filename.run ?
[06:29] <thompa> ksynaptics i think is not for xorg
[06:29] <flake> ahh
[06:29] <OOD> sh ./ tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run
[06:29] <Hawkwind> Or ./filename.run
[06:29] <Hawkwind> There are several ways
[06:29] <OOD> yea
[06:29] <OOD> if you get an old school installer after starting the installer then scroll up in the konsole
[06:30] <thompa> how do i play streaming audio without having to open real player first?
[06:30] <OOD> it'll say that some package is missing, install it and then you'll get a regular installer
[06:30] <flake> thanks
[06:30] <boingolov> having a bit of trouble with wine:  I am using the ies4linux setup and I installed the shockwave player plugin for ie6.  once this has finished, it tells me I need to reboot.  I run wineboot and it's as though nothing happens, it keeps asking me to reboot once I hit a page with the shockwave plugin
[06:30] <boingolov> any thoughts?
[06:30] <thompa> that sucks
[06:31] <thompa> if i click the link i get no sound and have to close and open realplayer
[06:31] <thompa> other than that kubuntu still best distro
[06:32] <moparisthebest> sweet, should be good now :)
[06:32] <thompa> why do kubuntu menus appear faster than in gnome?
[06:32] <Hawkwind> boingolov: Might try asking in #WineHQ
[06:32] <OOD> they do? from my experience gnome is snapier
[06:32] <boingolov> thank you
[06:33] <moparisthebest> yay, doom3 works :) thanks OOD and Hawkwind
[06:34] <OOD> np :)
[06:34] <Hawkwind> moparisthebest: No problem :)
[06:35] <Hawkwind> boingolov: You're welcome
[06:35] <OOD> does anyone remember the command to change passwords?
[06:36] <narq> w
 _Lewellyn is using windows?
[06:36] <ArmedGeek> the newer KDE is quicker than gnome.  that's what finally caused me to switch.  and you can ask Hawkwind, i've been using gnome forever
[06:37] <Hawkwind> Gnome addict he is!
[06:39] <boingolov> I've always liked kde, if for no other reason than that's the first one I tried many years ago.  and at that time, when I tried gnome to compare, it was very buggy compared.  so I got used to kde
[06:40] <Hawkwind> It's all about E17 :P
[06:40] <Hawkwind> I don't care for KDE or Gnome, but prefer KDE to Gnome any day
[06:40] <boingolov> gnome is pretty damn slick these days, but I'm a creature of habit
[06:40] <Hawkwind> Though I do use a few KDE apps and don't mind seeing KDE if I have to
[06:40] <OOD> i went with kde, since gnome is a nightmare with usability and customizability
[06:41] <Hawkwind> OOD: I agree 100% with you on that
[06:41] <OOD> nautillous doesn't even have a flipin address bar
[06:41] <OOD> that really annoyed me
[06:41] <boingolov> meh, screw both of their built-in browsers
[06:41] <boingolov> I see no reason to use anything but firefox, or occasionally ie6 under wine when I have to test something
[06:41] <boingolov> or when I just like seeing the fans kick on
[06:41] <Hawkwind> I really used to love all the GTK2 stuff and still do for some things.  But QT has really gotten to look nicer over the years IMO
[06:42] <Hawkwind> I use konqueror as a file manager.  It's horrible as a webbrowser IMO
[06:42] <thompa> mostly i need kword and abiword, do email thats it presto
[06:43] <thompa> konqueror has good pdf integration
[06:44] <OOD> plus, kde has bouncy icons, and that's something i'd kill for any day :D
[06:45] <jinho> hey for enemy territory
[06:45] <jinho> the menu is even really really slow
[06:46] <jinho> I got the message that says "You are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration)!
[06:46] <flake> you have to install the driver, it's using software mode i think, which is why it is slow
[06:46] <jinho> how can I get hardware acceleration?
[06:46] <flake> do you have nvidia?
[06:46] <Hawkwind> !ati
[06:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:46] <jinho> which driver do I need?
[06:46] <jinho> ATI
[06:46] <Hawkwind> Read that
[06:47] <jinho> except i have a radeon 9200 which is less than 9500
[06:47] <jinho> for fglrx
[06:47] <OOD> that's fine
[06:48] <jinho> install it then?
[06:48] <moparisthebest> ati uck
[06:48] <bob_> anyone got any ideas how to run a remote desktop server on port 80?
[06:48] <moparisthebest> but its better than onboard i guess
[06:48] <jinho> moparisthebest: well seeing how its what I'm stuck with...
[06:49] <thompa> ive tried with ati many times no results
[06:49] <moparisthebest> yep
[06:49] <moparisthebest> i havent tried ati personally
[06:49] <moparisthebest> but ive seen many friends try it
[06:49] <moparisthebest> and my nvidia always is better
[06:49] <thompa> if you use normal graphics its ok
[06:50] <thompa> i got a 660 and 6200 in a laptop
[06:50] <thompa> but it overheats
[06:50] <boingolov> my laptop tends to get a bit hot at times, depending on what I'm doing
[06:50] <thompa> it says 100C on temp monitor
[06:51] <OOD> oh god
[06:51] <boingolov> especially gcc
[06:51] <OOD> celcius?
[06:51] <thompa> but still works,
[06:51] <thompa> yes
[06:51] <OOD> o______________0
[06:51] <thompa> ive proved it, its a vaio and can go up to 100c
[06:51] <moparisthebest> 100 celsius?
[06:51] <thompa> yep
[06:51] <OOD> i can boil water on that thing
[06:51] <thompa> if i run bzflag
[06:51] <moparisthebest> it must be fareinhight (sp?)
[06:51] <OOD> lol
[06:51] <thompa> or opengl stuff
[06:52] <moparisthebest> no way you can heat that up to 212 degrees and it not melt
[06:52] <thompa> anything with cpu 100% also
[06:52] <boingolov> I've gotten mine up over 70 regularly
[06:52] <boingolov> celsius
[06:52] <moparisthebest> i had a athlon xp 2000+ partially melt at 120 F
[06:52] <thompa> and there is a factor which has to do with acpi involved
[06:52] <thompa> i am now at 54c
[06:52] <boingolov> mine shuts down if it gets up too high
[06:52] <OOD> this is where desktops shine :D
[06:53] <thompa> but if i run bzflag it climbs to 98C
[06:53] <thompa> i think the reading must be incorrect
[06:53] <thompa> its damn hot though
[06:53] <OOD> thompa that's ridiculous, how can a cpu operate at 100C
[06:54] <jinho> help...
[06:54] <thompa> well temp montior says so
[06:54] <flake> what's up jinho
[06:54] <jinho> kubuntu went whack
[06:54] <OOD> monitors lie, they get screwed up
[06:54] <jinho> and my monitor
[06:54] <thompa> the vaio nvidia chip is near the cpu
[06:54] <jinho> went from 1280x1024 to 640 480
[06:54] <thompa> so the reading i think is correct
[06:54] <moparisthebest> the reading must be wrong, thats the only answer
[06:55] <jinho> i tried fixing it w/ dpkg-reconfigure
[06:55] <jinho> but no good
[06:55] <OOD> can't be 100C that's the boiling point of water that's way too hot
[06:55] <jinho> this is very weird...
[06:55] <flake> you installed the drivers?
[06:55] <thompa> but then this vaio has water damage so who knows
[06:55] <flake> did you try increasing it back to 1280x1024
[06:56] <jinho> how do i do that?
[06:56] <thompa> i think its maybe 85c realistically, it has something to do with nviidago
[06:56] <jinho> it only has 640 4809
[06:56] <jinho> 480*
[06:57] <jinho> in the display area
[06:57] <OOD> change the monitor driver model
[06:57] <jinho> shit what is wrong w/ my comp today
[06:57] <OOD> go to the hardware tab
[06:57] <thompa> the graphics on  this vaio are awsome though i run all the opengl screensavers and stuff
[06:57] <moparisthebest> thompa, if it was operating at the boiling tempature of water you would not be talking to us right now because your processor would be liquid plastic
[06:57] <thompa> duh
[06:57] <jinho> OOD: how can I get root access?
[06:58] <OOD> for what?
[06:58] <OOD> oh
[06:58] <jinho> to be able to change the hardware stuff for monitor
[06:58] <OOD> a box should appear asking for your password
[06:58] <thompa> a processor can run at 100c and more just so you know
[06:58] <OOD> did it?
[06:58] <moparisthebest> jinho, sudo -i
[06:58] <flake> sudo
[06:58] <thompa> but thats besides the point, if i can find an acurrate reading
[06:59] <thompa> it still will say 100c across all linux distros
[07:00] <thompa> in ubuntu vaio with nvidia is about 85c
[07:00] <boingolov> doesn't mean that the sensor itsself doesn't read a bit high.  I'm sure that windows or linux or whatever you run on it will read the same value from your sensor, but that doesn't mean ithe sensor is necessarily accurate
[07:00] <thompa> its cooler by about 10c if acpi is correct
[07:00] <boingolov> but mine shows 55 C right now, and if I compile a kernel for instance it gets up around the 70-74 range
[07:01] <thompa> theres no bios sensor so i have no way of knowing anything
[07:01] <boingolov> 100 does sound excessive, but regardless these little boogers get hot
[07:01] <thompa> the sony vaio had most heat problem
[07:02] <OOD> how do i get the sensors working? haven't bothered trying yet
[07:02] <boingolov> mine's an hp
[07:02] <moparisthebest> thompa, get a thermometer and hold it on your processor while its running
[07:02] <moparisthebest> try to put it under the heatsink a little if you can
[07:02] <thompa> 2004-5 vaios have heat issues
[07:02] <thompa> what kind of thermo?
[07:03] <boingolov> ksysguard can do it
[07:03] <thompa> i got to take all the screws off like 60
[07:03] <thompa> but ok
[07:03] <flake> speakin of heat..  watch out for exploding laptops
[07:03] <flake> http://www.macobserver.com/article/2006/06/21.8.shtml
[07:03] <boingolov> if you have your acpi stuff working
[07:03] <thompa> it not dangerous
[07:03] <thompa> ive had over 30k volts shock
[07:03] <thompa> many times actually
[07:04] <moparisthebest> eh, I guess its just what you get for buying a sony computer :P
[07:04] <OOD> boingolov: i haven's set up my sensors yet
[07:04] <thompa> heh
[07:04] <OOD> and i don't have acpi set up either
[07:04] <thompa> it runs good if i disable touchpad
[07:05] <boingolov> on a lot of systems it should "just work"
[07:05] <thompa> the toshiba is so far best on linux
[07:05] <thompa> then i saw one woth lenovo which was nice
[07:05] <boingolov> my hp has been fine for the most part, except when I first bought it the i915 chipset wasn't very well supported in distros
[07:05] <omar> guys ... I've installed Xubuntu using an installation CD and now I installed Kubuntu using synaptic .... Can I easily remove Xubuntu using synaptic too ?
[07:06] <boingolov> but any centrino - based lappy would have that problem
[07:06] <boingolov> it's great now though
[07:06] <OOD> omar: here : http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[07:06] <thompa> i would like to easily find list of xgames?
[07:07] <thompa> i installed them, but have to remmeber the names or cant type them
[07:07] <thompa> its centino,
[07:07] <thompa> but the nvidia graphics are fasteer than on PC
[07:08] <thompa> centrino whatever
[07:08] <boingolov> mine has the crappy intel video
[07:08] <thompa> its running very smooth now
[07:08] <thompa> i810?
[07:08] <boingolov> i915
[07:09] <thompa> its good video too
[07:09] <thompa> you can run opengl stuff
[07:09] <boingolov> uses the i810 driver tho
[07:09] <boingolov> yeah
[07:09] <boingolov> it's fine really
[07:09] <boingolov> just not a gaming machine by any stretch
[07:09] <boingolov> not that I really care
[07:09] <thompa> no
[07:09] <thompa> but screen savers worked
[07:10] <boingolov> but yeah< I've had great experieences in the past with nvidia hardware w/ linux
[07:10] <thompa> the only reason i have windows is flight simulator
[07:10] <omar> OOD: the tutorial says nuthing about if I installed Xubuntu from a CD !
[07:10] <thompa> and the windows part always messes up
[07:10] <boingolov> I have windows for protools and photoshop.  and I don't need photoshop that often
[07:10] <OOD> omar: just paste all that into terminal and xubuntu will be gone, doesn;t matter where the install came from
[07:11] <flake> is there an open sourced flash or animation tool available
[07:11] <OOD> i use windows for making music with FL Studio
[07:11] <thompa> edubuntu is really cool
[07:11] <OOD> won't work in wine :(
[07:11] <OOD> that's the one program keeping me in windows
[07:12] <thompa> im practicing airbus flight sim, its fun
[07:12] <omar> OOD: Thanks
[07:12] <thompa> but wings are unstable, also
[07:12] <boingolov> this laptop has enough trouble running protools natively on XP, I wouldn't even try it under wine haha
[07:12] <thompa> also "open door hatch" opens too easily
[07:13] <thompa> but most the games even suck in windows
[07:13] <thompa> heroes3 linux , still are fav here
[07:14] <flake> see yall later, thanks for the help
[07:15] <OOD> later
[07:15] <Hawkwind> See ya flake
[07:15] <thompa> its nice to see moonlander
[07:15] <thompa> heh
[07:15] <thompa> you gotta apt-get install moonlander
[07:16] <thompa> its grear
[07:16] <moparisthebest> i saw someplace how to mount iso files
[07:17] <moparisthebest> but now i cant remmber where, does anyone know?
[07:17] <word> is there a way to get a katapult-type thing in the k menu? like just a search app/run box?
[07:17] <OOD> yes
[07:18] <word> OOD: How?
[07:18] <OOD> you can also start katapult with ALT+SPACE
[07:18] <OOD> i find it easier
[07:18] <word> b-b-b-ut...
[07:18] <OOD> but if you want it in the kmenu
[07:18] <OOD> open the k menu and right click
[07:18] <OOD> and click edit-item
[07:19] <OOD> then add a new item and the in the 'command' box type katapult, then you can mess with the icon and position it is on the k-menu :)
[07:19] <word> that won't make an icon it'll make a search box?
[07:20] <OOD> eh? you want a search box?
[07:20] <OOD> isn't that what katapult basically is? a search box?
[07:20] <word> yah that's what i was talking about a search/run box like katapult in the k menu
[07:21] <OOD> oh you want a katapult search directly in the k-menu?
[07:21] <word> yah
[07:21] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> how do i check cpu info ?
[07:21] <OOD> i see
[07:21] <OOD> katapult can't do that
[07:22] <OOD> but you can download beagle, and it's sort of like the search box in vista
[07:22] <word> hm
[07:22] <OOD> wich is what you'd want right?
[07:22] <OOD> it indexes the hard drive
[07:22] <word> naw just an application search
[07:22] <word> doesn't matter I guess
[07:23] <OOD> beagle could do that yes
[07:23] <OOD> you can chose to index a whole hard-drive, or just apps
[07:24] <word> meh installing beagle sounds like work :P
[07:24] <drgonzo> mmm, this isn't kde specific but I noticed you where talking about beagle. Does anyone know of any full-text indexing software that I could use for just an ebook journal collection I have which is both pdf and djvu ?
[07:25] <OOD> it's a gnome specific app so it might not work perfectly
[07:25] <OOD> just do sudo apt-get beagle
[07:25] <OOD> although that'll install a bunch of packages and take up 50 some megs
[07:26] <word> unless you've installed gnome apps before
[07:26] <boingolov> it would be hard to have a usable system without gtk/gtk2 installed at least
[07:26] <OOD> i'm not even sure if beagle will add a search box to the start menu, that might've been a distro specific feature
[07:27] <OOD> so you'd have to try it out yourself, i haven;t tried it yet
[07:27] <tssd> hello
[07:27] <omar> OOD: all is removed except scim-gtk2-immodule .. it gives me this error ... join #flood please
[07:28] <tssd> anyone can help me play mp3 format in kubuntu?
[07:28] <OOD> sure
[07:28] <OOD> you want mp3 support in amarok?
[07:28] <drgonzo>  I've already got a database of the journal entry's in mysql. That correspondes to the name and location plus extra info on each journal. I would like to incorporate full-text search capabilities so It doesn't just search title and the info in my mysql database but the pdf/djvu as well.
[07:28] <omar> OOD: hello ?
[07:28] <tssd> yes sir
[07:29] <kernal> i can't setup my resolution to 1440 x 900 on an Intel 810 chipset, does anyone known how to?
[07:29] <tssd> i've read the instruction in wiki, but i can't see the package in libxine-extracodecs
[07:29] <OOD> you have to enable extra repositories
[07:30] <tssd> how?
[07:30] <OOD> start adept
[07:30] <boingolov> might be able to script something like that using pdf2text
[07:30] <tssd> im' running it right now
[07:30] <fiyawerx> !easysource
[07:30] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:30] <OOD> k click adept->manage repositories
[07:30] <tssd> okay
[07:31] <OOD> you should have an entry called deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[07:31] <OOD> and deb src ********
[07:31] <kernal> please somebody help me...
[07:31] <tssd> for a while sir
[07:32] <OOD> so are they there?
[07:32] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> how do i check cpu info ?
[07:32] <fiyawerx> !restricted
[07:32] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:32] <tssd> it start with ph not ca coz im from phils
[07:33] <fiyawerx> !path
[07:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about path
[07:33] <fiyawerx> how do you add a dir to your path?
[07:33] <fiyawerx> permanently
[07:33] <kernal> !1440x900
[07:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about 1440x900
[07:33] <OOD> ah yes :)
[07:33] <OOD> it theyre grayed out right click and select enable
[07:33] <OOD> if*
[07:34] <boingolov> fiya, edit your ~/.bash_profile , export PATH=$PATH:/some/new/location , save it, start a new shell and it should be active ;)
[07:34] <fiyawerx> thanks boingolov
[07:34] <boingolov> there are a number of places you could edit it though, if you want it globally, you could put it in /etc/bash.bashrc
[07:34] <drgonzo> For example. Kat,beagle etc support indexing of the files i'm interested in, but is orintated around a desktop search I would like to incorporate full-text capabilities into a search engine for the web.
[07:35] <drgonzo> i'm probably not articulating myself properly, but are there any open-source engines that support these formats?
[07:35] <tssd> i already did sir
[07:35] <tssd> and fetch the updates
[07:35] <boingolov> drgonzo, you should be able to script that easily enough
[07:36] <tssd> but it doesn't list the said package
[07:36] <boingolov> if you're storing in a mysql database, perl might be a decent option
[07:36] <drgonzo> I don't have the files indexed in mysql. only entry's with information  on the file.
[07:36] <OOD> k then click on the universe part, then you'll be able to type, so type in multiverse after universe, then apply, fetch update and it should work :_
[07:36] <OOD> :)
[07:36] <drgonzo> Is mysql the best option for full-text indexing?
[07:37] <kernal> how do i set 1440x900 resolution?
[07:37] <boingolov> drgonzo, not a bad option if you're wanting to make the data available on the web
[07:37] <fiyawerx> boingolov: awesome, worked thanks :)
[07:37] <tssd> that's what i've not done
[07:38] <drgonzo> boingolov: do you know if there are any sites that have comparisons of full-text databases and linux
[07:38] <boingolov> not off hand no
[07:38] <tssd> i've seen it now on the list
[07:38] <ChefWill> !flash
[07:38] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:39] <tssd> how to install it just click it?
[07:39] <boingolov> drg, so what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:39] <OOD> just select it and it right click and install
[07:40] <tssd> it said request install
[07:40] <tssd> i've click it
[07:40] <tssd> what will happen then
[07:40] <boingolov> and how is it that you have file info already in mysql?  how did you get this info, just out of curiosity?
[07:41] <OOD> you should be able to play mp3's then
[07:41] <tssd> it is now installing
[07:42] <tssd> after i click apply
[07:42] <OOD> eh, what's installing? k you lost me
[07:42] <kernal> i need some help in xorg configuration to set the resolution at 1440x900
[07:43] <boingolov> kernal, odd resolution haha
[07:44] <OOD> kernal: try going to display options, selecting the hardware tab, then configure and select your monitor
[07:44] <noaXess> is there a method to automaticaly cleanup grub, that only entries are in, for installed kernel?
[07:44] <OOD> noaXess you got extra entries?
[07:44] <boingolov> noaxess, if there were an automagic fixer upper thingy, I'd be leary of using it
[07:44] <noaXess> OOD, old kernel entries.. kernel that aren't installed..
[07:45] <tssd> thanks ood, its working now, though amarok crashes when I try to play it over the samba network
[07:45] <boingolov> just edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst , then grub-install /dev/yourbootdrive
[07:45] <boingolov> typically /dev/hda
[07:46] <OOD> tssd: np :), i don't know how to fix that problem though
[07:46] <boingolov> tssd, I'd look into the oplocks setting of smb.conf as a possible starting point
[07:47] <J_luges> could somebody do me a favour
[07:47] <boingolov> wait, is using your linux as a samba client or server?
[07:47] <kernal> OOD: mi monitor isn't at the hardware list, i tried with a generic one but when i restart xorg i get this message from my monitor "out of range"
[07:48] <J_luges> i need someone to open a terminal and ping "www.runescape.com" for me
[07:48] <tssd> sorry, can't understand term, i'm new to linux,
[07:49] <J_luges> somebody help me pls
[07:49] <OOD> kernal: try a generic one
[07:50] <boingolov> you can try xvidtune
[07:50] <lowtech> kernal: start by getting the specs for your monitor. you need the horiz/vert refresh ranges.
[07:50] <boingolov> have to start it from command line tho
[07:51] <kernal> OOD: i already did it with no luck
[07:51] <tssd> perhaps i will do that later, when i'm fully aware of the linux basics
[07:51] <lowtech> J_luges: no response
[07:51] <macd> If I setup a xvnc sever on screen :1 how would I tell kdm or gdm to run on that screen in addition to :0 ?
[07:52] <OOD> PING www.runescape.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[07:52] <kernal> lowtech: Fh: 30~82kHz, Fv: 50~85Hz
[07:52] <J_luges> ok ty
[07:53] <lowtech> kernal: put those in your xorg.conf
[07:54] <lowtech> or if the gui lets you set custom
[07:56] <kernal> lowtech: is there any way i can test changes in my xorg without closing the session?
[07:57] <OOD> no you have to restart X
[07:58] <tssd> boingolov: how to look into the oplocks setting of smb.cnf
[07:58] <tssd> should I start terminal
[07:58] <lowtech> kernal: i don't know if/what kubuntu has a test. i'm new to kubuntu
[07:58] <kernal> so long and thanks fo all the shoes
[08:00] <lowtech> kernal: you'll see that error you got when the resolution chosen and rates your monitor selections set don't match the monitor specs.
[08:00] <kernal> ok
[08:00] <kernal> thanks a lot
[08:00] <lowtech> no problem
[08:01] <OOD> i had a website bookmarked that was able to generate a xorg resolution based on refreshrate and resolution
[08:01] <OOD> but i can't find it
[08:01] <TheHighChild> is there a way to read newsgroups in kmail? or Kontact?
[08:02] <tssd> ODD: how to configure amarok to play a file over the samba network
[08:03] <OOD> kernal: here it is, this might help: http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[08:06] <lowtech> usually don't need to specify a modeline
[08:07] <kernal> i will try thanks both
[08:08] <tssd> tnx ODD, its playing now
[08:09] <fiyawerx> hey guys whats a good program for actually sorting and organizing music ?
[08:10] <tssd> can anyone help, how to play music file shared on the smb
[08:10] <tssd> using amarok
[08:12] <fiyawerx> hmm, it seems my audio jacks are all not rightin the mixer
[08:12] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: amarok is decent. Best I've seen yet on tux
[08:12] <fiyawerx> like my slider named "front" is the one controlling the music
[08:12] <fiyawerx> but im plugged into the back
[08:12] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: you can move files around and whatnot?
[08:12] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: You could install Winamp with Wine
[08:12] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: i was thinking more some kind of organizer
[08:12] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: move?
[08:13] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: yes, i have about 16000 mp3's in one folder, not organized at all
[08:13] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: and i want to organize them
[08:13] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: and tag them right
[08:13] <TheHighChild> um, not sure then. It's a pretty rugged app though, a google search will bring up its capabilities
[08:13] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: will look into it
[08:13] <TheHighChild> amarok will do that
[08:13] <fiyawerx> wish my mixer was working all right
[08:14] <TheHighChild> tssd: What's up?
[08:14] <fiyawerx> anywhere below 90% volume and i get 0 sound
[08:14] <TheHighChild> pretty odd
[08:18] <fiyawerx> as musicbrainz doesn't auto-tag .mp3s?
[08:18] <fiyawerx> er aw
[08:19] <jerry> Hi
[08:19] <jerry> I have a question
[08:19] <jerry> Anyone awake?
[08:19] <jerry> um
[08:19] <jerry> hello
[08:20] <jerry> I have a question if anyone's there?
[08:20] <tssd> highchild: can you help me, amarok crashes when I play mp3 file over SMB network, any workaround
[08:20] <fiyawerx> even when people are awake they don't always just sit and watch, just ask the question and chill for a bit if nobody answers right away
[08:20] <jerry> ok thanks
[08:21] <jerry> well I have this program called MegaMud and what megamud does is it sends certain "telnet stuff" like global: to different windows and I was wondering if there's a program for linux that I can use to connect to a telnet server and then when say a message like "global" is sent it will display that in a certain window for telneting
[08:22] <ajaykant> hi i m 24 male from delhi
[08:22] <ajaykant> any one chat with me
[08:22] <jerry> sure I'll chat with you
[08:22] <jerry> how?
[08:22] <crimsun> ajaykant: this is the support channel for Kubuntu. Do you have a support question?
[08:22] <ajaykant> hi jerry
[08:22] <jerry> how do I send private messages to someone?
[08:23] <jerry> join channel #jerryandajaykant
[08:23] <fiyawerx> jerry, you looking for a linux mud client?
[08:23] <fiyawerx> tintin++ can send things to multiple windows i think at the same time
[08:23] <jerry> ya
[08:23] <jerry> tintin++?
[08:24] <_rince_> mrgn
[08:24] <jerry> how do I run that?
[08:24] <fiyawerx> well, are you looking for a graphical client
[08:24] <fiyawerx> or console based
[08:24] <jerry> well like if I get a message like "global:"
[08:25] <jerry> when I telnet to a server like cause I want to play mud but my softeware is windows only :( well I want to just chat with people but in order to do that I need to filter out all the other stuff so like if someone says "global: Hy jerry. How are you" I want that to display in a seperate window or something like that
[08:25] <fiyawerx> oh
[08:25] <jerry> oh also a way to send timed macros
[08:25] <fiyawerx> yeah, one sec, i was jsut looking up linux mud clients a few mins ago
[08:25] <jerry> send 'l' every 1min
[08:25] <tssd> sorry not to respond in time, workin' sometin'
[08:25] <fiyawerx> you're using kde, right?
[08:25] <jerry> is there a mud client?
[08:25] <jerry> ya
[08:25] <fiyawerx> yeah thats just basic timed actions
[08:26] <jerry> I didn't know I thought the only thing out there was megamud
[08:26] <jerry> I know that there's older mud clients would that work?
[08:26] <jerry> let me see
[08:26] <tssd> gotta go, tnx
[08:26] <fiyawerx> yep
[08:26] <ajaykant> what r u saying
[08:26] <fiyawerx> there's tons of them, im not familiar with megamud
[08:27] <jerry> well megamud is the "current" one everyone says it costs $45 but it's pretty user friendly but the down side it's only for windows
[08:27] <jerry> and I don't quite want to go through a windows program on top of linux :(
[08:28] <ajaykant> i am 24 male any one want chat with me (india)
[08:28] <jerry> I can't private message you ajaykant sorry :(
[08:28] <jerry> I appears I can only chat in chat rooms and not private message
[08:28] <jerry> brb
[08:28] <fiyawerx> jerry: don't go anywhere for a minute, im checking out a few different ones
[08:29] <ajaykant> hi
[08:30] <fiyawerx> jerry: it looks like KMC (mud client for kde) will do everything you need
[08:30] <jerry> ok thanks :)
[08:30] <fiyawerx> http://kmc.sourceforge.net/
[08:30] <fiyawerx> browse around the site there and the "online manual" to get a look at it
[08:32] <lowtech> jerry: is your nick registered?
[08:32] <fiyawerx> anyone know what a general reference to "X Includes" would be?
[08:32] <fiyawerx> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes.
[08:33] <ChefWill> its like
[08:33] <ChefWill> xorg-x11-devel
[08:34] <jerry> hey ajakant you can chat with me on american online if you have that "AIM" my names we6jbo
[08:34] <unix_infidel> fiyawerx: random guess here, but maybe libraries.
[08:34] <fiyawerx> yeah, no clue which ones it wants, lol
[08:34] <unix_infidel> the dev packages would have them.
[08:34] <fiyawerx> not sure of the names of them, coldnt find the xorg-x11-devel
[08:34] <unix_infidel> fiyawerx: for installing KMC?
[08:34] <fiyawerx> unix_infidel: yep
[08:34] <fiyawerx> unix_infidel: tryin to get it so i'll know what to do when jerry has a problem with it
[08:35] <fiyawerx> plus i've been looking for a decent mud client :0
[08:35] <fiyawerx> tinyfugue makes my head hurt
[08:35] <unix_infidel> xserver-xorg-dev - X.Org X server -- development files
[08:36] <unix_infidel> lol @ mud.
[08:36] <fiyawerx> heh, i've been mudding for years, i'll never give itu p
[08:36] <unix_infidel> maybe its time to get a real job :P
[08:36] <unix_infidel> and a haircut.
[08:36] <fiyawerx> i mud from work :)
[08:36] <unix_infidel> like i said, maybe its time to get a real job.
[08:36] <fiyawerx> heh
[08:36] <fiyawerx> i like my job very much
[08:37] <fiyawerx> well, i play a lot of armagetron too
[08:37] <fiyawerx> but mostly mud
[08:37] <fiyawerx> unless by "real job" you mean like construction, but i even know some truck drivers that mud from wireless @ truckstops
[08:37] <unix_infidel> as opposed to....sleeping.  Like they should be.
[08:38] <jerry> says I need libXext
[08:38] <jerry> what on earth is that
[08:38] <fiyawerx> heh
[08:38] <fiyawerx> tryin to figure out how to compile it myself jerry, the xserver-xorg-dev didn't do it
[08:38] <fiyawerx> its failing on checking for shl_unload in -ldld... no
[08:39] <jerry> I don't ever have to install stuff I don't need others using as root just as myself and then I can run it on my own account
[08:40] <jerry> I told the techsupport to make sure that everyone could run their own programs on this so that if there was an application that they could install it for themself
[08:40] <jerry> that seems to be unnessisary imo but I don't know
[08:40] <jerry> my grandmother
[08:41] <jerry> I have a computer but I've using windows for years now and + the hw locks me in windows (I didn't read the fineprint) but I was afraid to let my grandmother use a windows machine because of all the work I have to do for my moms machine so I got her a linux machine bought and presetup
[08:41] <jerry> but I'm also technical
[08:42] <jerry> and a salespitch person
[08:42] <jerry> my job
[08:42] <jerry> My AA in webprogramming and (soon) BA in Political Science so if you want anything make sure to mention it now before 2008
[08:43] <fiyawerx> aha, i got past that with installing QT
[08:43] <jerry> wow it's late
[08:43] <jerry> QT?
[08:43] <jerry> can I do that with the one thing
[08:44] <jerry> adept?
[08:44] <fiyawerx> yeah, i'll tell you what, i'll play around with it and figure out just which we need to install
[08:44] <fiyawerx> email me
[08:44] <fiyawerx><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:44] <jerry> ok
[08:44] <jerry> my email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:44] <fiyawerx> and i'll get back to you tomorrow with it or later on tonight
[08:44] <jerry> so I'll go ahead and run that and watch for you
[08:44] <jerry> cool thanks :)
[08:45] <fiyawerx> man do i love debfoster
[08:45] <fiyawerx> makes installing random packages so harmless lol
[08:48] <fiyawerx> man, amarok is f'n cool
[08:48] <moruan> does anyone know something about coreutils
[08:49] <jerry> ok sent
[08:50] <ubuntu> hey hi everybody
[08:51] <moruan> does anyone knows about coreutils ? any information is OK ~~~
[08:51] <ubuntu> can the partition (in wich /home will be installed) be fat32??
[08:53] <PasNox> hi
[08:53] <PasNox> there is someone here ?
[08:55] <PasNox> noone ?
[08:59] <pc_butler> 	im in upington in south africa
[08:59] <pc_butler> any one online?
[08:59] <pc_butler> do u know if one can download programs for ubuntu for instal on pcs with no internet? how does it work?
[09:00] <pc_butler> sorry meant kubuntu
[09:00] <pc_butler> no offence
[09:00] <pc_butler> newbie alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:00] <ubuntu> lol
[09:00] <emonkey>  hm if you've a DVD you can
[09:00] <ubuntu> yup... thos would be my words
[09:01] <emonkey> I mean an ubuntu DVD
[09:01] <ubuntu> those*
[09:01] <pc_butler> I have gprs
[09:01] <pc_butler> very xpensive
[09:01] <pc_butler> kan one order it some where
[09:02] <pc_butler> download it at internet shop or so?
[09:02] <ubuntu> you can ask for the shipping of that dvd
[09:02] <ubuntu> theres a page
[09:02] <pc_butler> emonkey, where do i get a DVD?
[09:02] <ubuntu> hold...  let me find it..
[09:03] <pc_butler> ubuntu thanx
[09:04] <pc_butler> ubuntu is that only for ubuntu? Kubuntu?
[09:05] <pc_butler> can some one help me with xubuntu?
[09:06] <pc_butler> limited resources for downloading gprs charge R2/mb, any suggestions
[09:06] <moruan> does anyone knows about coreutils ? any information is OK ~~~
[09:06] <pc_butler> Healot, hi
[09:06] <moruan> any idea how to upgrade coreutils ?  ~~~
[09:06] <Healot> R2? South African currency?
[09:07] <pc_butler> moruan, no me
[09:07] <pc_butler> Healot,  yes
[09:08] <moruan> : <pc_butler>  how to upgrade ?
[09:09] <pc_butler> im @work might not respond immediatly
[09:09] <moruan> : <pc_butler>  when i update my breezy5.10 to 6.06 , the coreutils it requires doesn't match the one i installed
[09:09] <pc_butler> moruan, i meant "not me"
[09:09] <pc_butler> newbie
[09:10] <_rince_> is it possible to set locales on a per-application basis? e.g.
[09:10] <moruan> : <pc_butler>  sorry , i thought is was " on me "
[09:10] <pc_butler> im @work might not respond immediatly
[09:10] <moruan> : <pc_butler>  that's fine , i am in a hurry about this problem , so ~~~
[09:11] <_rince_> to have standard C for the whole system, except thunderbird where i want LC_TIME=en_DK
[09:13] <pc_butler> moruan, my email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:13] <pc_butler> incase
[09:14] <moruan> : <pc_butler>  ths
[09:14] <pc_butler> sorry was 4 ubuntu
[09:14] <fiyawerx> anyone use tunepimp with mp3s? (amarok auto-tagging)
[09:15] <pc_butler> ubuntu, my email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:18] <fiyawerx> how can you tell what your processor is from inside k?
[09:18] <fiyawerx> ah ksysinfo
[09:18] <kubuntu> hello
[09:19] <kubuntu> what is default username and password
[09:19] <kubuntu> postgresql
[09:27] <soundmaster80> has anyonwe had an issue installing from the alternative disc
[09:28] <soundmaster80> initally i got issues with the cd not going much farther than loading the kernel on choosing what to install
[09:28] <pc_butler> what is the su pasword?
[09:28] <soundmaster80> i got around that but after installing when it should go to splash i get nothing....ever
[09:28] <soundmaster80> the user pass pc_butler
[09:29] <pc_butler> so u type your pass?
[09:29] <pc_butler> soundmaster80,
[09:30] <soundmaster80> i'm sorry i must've caught the end of a conversation....it's very late here
[09:30] <soundmaster80> are you wanting to know the root password pc_butler?
[09:30] <pc_butler> soundmaster80, yes
[09:31] <soundmaster80> if your wanting to do something as root you would use the sudo command with your user password
[09:32] <soundmaster80> sudo apt-get install "package" then the password you provide is your user password
[09:33] <soundmaster80> well, i guess I will go install the flight4 i have and upgrade
[09:33] <soundmaster80> this is annoying
[09:34] <pc_butler> ja but if i su in terminal?
[09:34] <soundmaster80> oh
[09:34] <fiyawerx> hey guys whats a good mass mp3 tagging software?, amarok seems to want you to press through on every one
[09:34] <pc_butler> it ask for pass
[09:34] <soundmaster80> there is no root user
[09:34] <soundmaster80> you use the sudo command on whatever you want to run as root
[09:34] <soundmaster80> you can create a root account
[09:35] <soundmaster80> with sudo su
[09:35] <soundmaster80> at least i think that's right
[09:35] <fiyawerx> it's a good idea to get used to sudo tho :)
[09:35] <soundmaster80> yup
[09:35] <soundmaster80> makes things more enjoyable i find
[09:35] <soundmaster80> anyone got a suggestion about my problem?
[09:35] <fiyawerx> yeah, and most large companies implement it, all our aix/solaris servers use sudo for people who need access to certain things
[09:36] <soundmaster80> again, dl'd the alternative cd....checked the MD5 and it's right, burned the cd and on install it will not bring up anything past what type i want to install
[09:37] <soundmaster80> i worked around that but after it supposedly installed i get nothing past grub loading
[09:39] <lol> can anyone help me
[09:39] <lol> kubuntu networking problem >.>
[09:40] <lol> lol?
[09:41] <fiyawerx> lol, what's up? many people are asleep at this time :)
[09:41] <lol> oh
[09:41] <lol> well can you help?
[09:41] <fiyawerx> it's usually better to just ask the question, rather than if you can ask the question :)
[09:42] <fiyawerx> no idea
[09:42] <Healot> !ask
[09:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:42] <lol> haha okay
[09:42] <fiyawerx> Healot: thanks :)
[09:42] <lol> so... i installed kubuntu today
[09:42] <lol> and with the live cd the internet worked fine
[09:42] <lol> but after installation and stuff
[09:42] <lol> it /died
[09:42] <word> lol: How are you on the internet now?
[09:42] <fiyawerx> did it work after installation / before updates?
[09:42] <lol> another computer
[09:42] <lol> >.>
[09:43] <word> :P
[09:43] <lol> er it was working during the installation
[09:43] <fiyawerx> what kind of card is it?
[09:43] <lol> while i was still running on the live cd
[09:43] <lol> it's...
[09:43] <lol> cnetpro200
[09:43] <lol> pci fast ethernet
[09:43] <lol> the tulip compatible thing
[09:43] <word> lol: the live cd loads up it's own configuartions and stuff that's why it takes so long to boot
[09:43] <fiyawerx> i had similar problems with my wireless card, but that was due to missing restricted-modules after my first boot upgraded my kernel
[09:44] <lol> ?
[09:44] <fiyawerx> when you boot, do you see options for the -25 and -23 kernels?
[09:44] <lol> er
[09:44] <lol> wherew ould that be
[09:44] <lol> rofl
[09:44] <fiyawerx> in the first menu in Grub
[09:44] <word> do you have a dual boot system?
[09:44] <lol> no
[09:44] <word> otherwise you have to press some random key to see it
[09:44] <lol> want me to reboot
[09:44] <fiyawerx> oh, is .. oh
[09:44] <soundmaster80> LOL....well apparantly no one has suffered from my problems :)
[09:45] <fiyawerx> sorry i didn't know the grub loader didnt pop up in a single install :)
[09:45] <lol> -.-;;
[09:45] <word> it displays 'press * key to view grub' for like 1 second
[09:45] <lol> yeah
[09:45] <lol> should i...
[09:45] <fiyawerx> hit that key lol
[09:45] <lol> reboot....
[09:45] <lol> rofl
[09:45] <lol> k hold up
[09:45] <word> on that comp yah
[09:45] <lol> yes i know
[09:45] <lol> i'm not that bad >.>
[09:45] <fiyawerx> heh if he rebooted this computer
[09:46] <fiyawerx> this conversation would be fit for bash.org
[09:46] <word> lol
[09:46] <lol> lol yarly
[09:46] <word> well he was asking if he should reboot....and i was thinking hey it's not that big a deal he's not on that computer...ya never know ;p
[09:46] <lol> haha
[09:46] <lol> okay
[09:46] <lol> i'm in grub....
[09:46] <lol> so there's....
[09:46] <word> 3 options?
[09:46] <lol> yeah
[09:47] <word> so that's a no to fiyawerx's questions
[09:47] <word> are you fully updated?
[09:47] <lol> i'm guessing no...
[09:47] <fiyawerx> prob not
[09:47] <lol> since i cant really update without
[09:47] <m0gsi> Hey all i am just wondering how much space kde would take if i were to install it onto ubuntu
[09:47] <lol> internet ?
[09:47] <word> is it -23 on the kernel?
[09:47] <word> lol i suppose not
[09:47] <lol> 15-23-286?
[09:47] <lol> is what it says next to kernel
[09:48] <word> yah it's oudated
[09:48] <word> by 2
[09:48] <lol> T_T
[09:48] <word> wait
[09:48] <lol> 2.6.15-23-286
[09:48] <word> o.o
[09:48] <word> 286?
[09:48] <fiyawerx> 286?
[09:48] <lol> er
[09:48] <lol> 386
[09:48] <word> lol
[09:48] <lol> lol my bad
[09:48] <fiyawerx> hah
[09:48] <soundmaster80> I am beginning to wonder why I wiped XP for this again
[09:48] <fiyawerx> yeah thats the current cd versions
[09:48] <fiyawerx> why'd you wipe xp soundmaster80
[09:48] <word> soundmaster80: why?
[09:48] <fiyawerx> dual boots rock :)
[09:49] <soundmaster80> well, on a striped raid
[09:49] <soundmaster80> kinda hard
[09:49] <lol> so...
[09:49] <word> until a decent game emulater that works well without a patch possibly breaking the game for linux I'm dual booting
[09:49] <fiyawerx> ditto
[09:49] <soundmaster80> I don't game
[09:49] <fiyawerx> but i keep downsizing my ntfs partition for more for linux
[09:49] <fiyawerx> soundmaster80: what do you do?
[09:49] <lol> what do i do...
[09:49] <lol> now
[09:49] <soundmaster80> right now i'm pulling my hair out
[09:49] <word> me too recently chopped off 17 gigs added 7 to kubuntu and loaded on suse too hehe tri-boot
[09:50] <soundmaster80> usually i'm more into just projects...firewalls and such
[09:50] <word> !network
[09:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about network
[09:50] <word> LIES
[09:50] <word> !anything
[09:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[09:50] <word> haha
[09:50] <lol> !sex
[09:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about sex
[09:50] <fiyawerx> !abuse
[09:50] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour.
[09:50] <word> soundmaster80: what's the problem?
[09:50] <fiyawerx> aw thats not it
[09:51] <lol> T_T
[09:51] <word> !networkconfig
[09:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about networkconfig
[09:51] <lol> so am i stuck lol
[09:51] <soundmaster80> I'm getting the same thing from like flight 4
[09:51] <word> !config
[09:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about config
[09:51] <soundmaster80> i burn the cd
[09:51] <word> soundmaster80: Please explain your problem
[09:51] <soundmaster80> put it in...i get tht inital boot screen asking what i want to install
[09:51] <soundmaster80> i have a new install or install on a desktop or whatever
[09:51] <soundmaster80> from that nothing
[09:52] <soundmaster80> now....
[09:52] <word> what do you mean nothing?
[09:52] <soundmaster80> i can change it by hitting f4 to 1024x768@32 and i get the install to come up
[09:52] <word> sound
[09:52] <lol> >.>
[09:53] <lol> what if i get an ip
[09:53] <lol> but cant ping out
[09:53] <soundmaster80> but, I install it and upon rebooting i get past grub to where it's loasing the kernel and the splash takes over and that's it
[09:53] <soundmaster80> nothing on the screen....nothing
[09:53] <word> use the alternate install - it's basically a never-fail version some raid configs and weird hardware doesn't work in the live cd version
[09:53] <soundmaster80> lol....that's what i'm using now
[09:53] <word> try the live cd version?
[09:54] <word> lol eh/
[09:54] <soundmaster80> i can, i hear people have been having problems with it too though
[09:54] <word> not like yours
[09:54] <word> at least you can get further with the live cd (it's likely)
[09:54] <soundmaster80> i did an md5 check on the download and it is right
[09:54] <soundmaster80> like i said i had similar problems in flight 4
[09:55] <word> lol: Umm....k menu system settings connections...
[09:55] <soundmaster80> i got around everything with it though
[09:56] <word> lol:  I meant network settings not connections..
[09:56] <soundmaster80> at this point i think i'm going to install it and update
[09:56] <lol> talking to me?
[09:56] <word> i put lol in front of it
[09:56] <lol> oh
[09:56] <word> so ya ;p
[09:56] <lol> haha
[09:56] <lol> okay
[09:56] <lol> i'm there >.>
[09:57] <word> soundmaster80: ...try the live cd
[09:57] <word> lol: what do you see?
[09:57] <soundmaster80> yeah, can't hurt
[09:57] <word> in the big bo
[09:57] <word> box*
[09:58] <lol> etho0
[09:58] <lol> <IP_ADDRESS> dhcp
[09:58] <lol> enabled ethernet network device
[09:58] <lol> that's under the network interfaces tab
[09:58] <word> and in the next one?
[09:59] <word> domain name whatevers tab
[09:59] <lol> has 3 dns's
[09:59] <lol> that look right
[09:59] <lol> according to my network settings and stuff
[09:59] <word> can you see it from another comp?
[10:00] <lol> yeah
[10:00] <word> but no internet?
[10:00] <lol> wait
[10:00] <word> how many computers on the network?
[10:00] <lol> you mean ping it
[10:00] <lol> from another comp?
[10:00] <lol> right now just 2
[10:00] <word> router or..?
[10:00] <lol> laptop... router
[10:00] <lol> and the kubuntu box
[10:00] <lol> like i can get an address from dhcp
[10:01] <lol> but i cant ping anything on the network either
[10:01] <word> router goes to kubuntu box and laptop seperately?
[10:01] <lol> it's... laptop---wireless--> router <----wired---kubuntu
[10:01] <word> laptop os?
[10:01] <lol> xp pro
[10:01] <lol> is what i'm on right now
[10:01] <word> eww
[10:02] <lol> lol
[10:02] <lol> its not mine
[10:02] <word> k menu - > system - > adept - > install the package samba
[10:02] <Emess> samba should be preinstalled...
[10:02] <word> not all of it
[10:03] <word> at least not all of it was on the 2 installs i did for my brothers
[10:03] <lol> samba common?
[10:03] <word> samba and samba-common
[10:03] <word> are they already installed?
[10:03] <lol> samba isnt
[10:03] <lol> just samba common
[10:04] <word> install samba
[10:04] <word> what's the name of the workgroup on your xp machine?
[10:05] <lol> it's just called
[10:05] <lol> workgroup
[10:05] <lol> lol
[10:05] <word> you'll have to set your workgroup to workgroup (default in samba is mshome)
[10:05] <lol> k so i
[10:06] <lol> clicked request install on samba
[10:06] <lol> then apply changes?
[10:07] <lol> it says fetching headers... but nothing comes
[10:07] <lol> waiting for headers*
[10:09] <lol> -.-;;;;
[10:09] <word> oh yah...
[10:09] <word> heh
[10:09] <word> on this comp
[10:09] <word> uh
[10:09] <word> lemme find the link it's a .deb.....then uh..do you have a usb drive?
[10:10] <lol> yeha
[10:10] <word> good hold a sec
[10:10] <lol> k
[10:11] <word> in adept when you tell it to install samba click on preview changes is anythign else listed?
[10:11] <lol> no
[10:11] <lol> i only selsected samba
[10:12] <word> sometimes packages have dependencies and multiple packages are downloaded
[10:12] <word> here's the link - http://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[10:12] <lol> k
[10:12] <lol> 404 T_T
[10:12] <lol> oh
[10:12] <lol> lol you did http://ftp
[10:13] <lol> er
[10:13] <lol> well notrly
[10:13] <lol> i jk
[10:13] <word> download that throw it on a usb drive then when it pops up as being detected - > open in new window - > right click teh .deb and kubuntu package menu - > install package
[10:13] <word> link works?
[10:13] <lol> doesn't work
[10:13] <lol> it's 404
[10:14] <word> doesn't for me either lol this one does - http://itanix.rutgers.edu/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[10:14] <lol> k got it
[10:14] <word> moving it and installin it?
[10:14] <lol> downloading....
[10:15] <lol> hmm
[10:15] <lol> apparenlty doesnt work either...
[10:15] <lol> i get the download queue
[10:15] <lol> but download doesnt start >..
[10:17] <word> o.O
[10:17] <word> wait
[10:17] <word> I know for a fact this one works - http://ubuntu.secs.oakland.edu/pool/main/s/samba/samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[10:18] <lol> yeah k lol
[10:18] <lol> works ><
[10:22] <lol> okay
[10:22] <lol> i instialled it
[10:24] <lol> now what ... ><
[10:24] <word> now go to /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:25] <word> and chang MSHOME to WORKGROUP
[10:25] <word> save
[10:25] <lol> k
[10:27] <word> lol done?
[10:27] <lol> yeah
[10:27] <word> ok now open up konqueror and type in the address bar smb:/
[10:28] <lol> actually
[10:28] <lol> it says
[10:28] <lol> i cant save it?
[10:28] <word> in command prompt
[10:28] <word> type sudo kate /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:28] <word> you can't save it as a normal user
[10:29] <lol> k
[10:29] <word> when you finish that go to smb:/
[10:30] <lol> k
[10:30] <word> see anything in smb:/
[10:30] <word> ?
[10:30] <lol> myself
[10:30] <lol> admin-desktop[
[10:30] <word> laptop?
[10:30] <lol> no
[10:30] <word> meh
[10:30] <word> hmm
[10:31] <lol> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186430
[10:31] <lol> you think that'll work?
[10:31] <word> restart (it's the only way i know how to restart samba)...lemme look
[10:31] <lol> k
[10:31] <word> do you have a davicom card?
[10:32] <lol> yeah
[10:32] <lol> that's the tulip
[10:32] <word> try it
[10:32] <lol> davicom
[10:32] <lol> w/e crap
[10:32] <lol> k
[10:32] <MistaED> sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[10:32] <ArmedGeek> or restart
[10:32] <MistaED> (put an & in between those two sudo commands)
[10:32] <lol> k
[10:32] <ArmedGeek> two &
[10:33] <MistaED> oops yeah, &&
[10:33] <ArmedGeek> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[10:33] <MistaED> or do them separately!  :P
[10:39] <lol> i dont know
[10:39] <lol> i'm updating
[10:39] <lol> all the sthings
[10:39] <word> basically what i helped you setup was filesharing with other comps ;p
[10:39] <lol> but i'll try hold up
[10:39] <lol> lol yay
[10:40] <lol> yeah
[10:40] <lol> i can see other computers now
[10:40] <word> :D
[10:40] <lol> word
[10:40] <lol> haha
[10:40] <word> me
[10:40] <word> haha
[10:40] <word> doesn't sound the same..
[10:40] <lol> rofl
[10:40] <word> soundmaster80: how goes the live cd?
[10:41] <lol> can you get the mac slider
[10:41] <lol> on kde?
[10:41] <word> kde-look.org?
[10:42] <word> no idea what mac slider =
[10:42] <lol> have you seen like osx
[10:42] <lol> maybe not?
[10:42] <omeow> I believe he means the icon zoom for kicker.
[10:42] <word> nope haven't done anything but internet and text on a mac and definitely not osx ;p
[10:43] <lol> oh
[10:43] <word> icon zoom...
[10:43] <word> ?
[10:43] <lol> i dont know?
[10:43] <lol> lol
[10:43] <lol> it's that mac slider thing
[10:43] <word> what's mac slider do?
[10:43] <lol> on osx
[10:43] <lol> it's just liek taskbar
[10:43] <lol> but
[10:43] <lol> spiffy looking
[10:44] <lol> i'll go check kde-look
[10:44] <word> taskbar = panel and is skinnable i'm 80% sure..take a look at kde-look.org and search for mac
[10:44] <word> i meant kicker not panel..meh
[10:45] <crazy_penguin> hi all!
[10:45] <word> hey :-/
[10:46] <word> lol: i'm going to go to bed now..it's late >< g'nite
[10:47] <lol> later word
[10:47] <lol> thanks btw
[10:47] <word> np :D
[10:49] <omar> I installed Xubuntu from the installation CD and then I used the package manager to remove it and install Kubuntu .. but I still get the Xubuntu logo during the boot up screen ... whats wrong ?\
[10:50] <omar> i mean I really want a PURE kubuntu system
[10:51] <lol> >.>
[10:51] <lol> format
[10:51] <lol> lol
[10:51] <omar> come on
[10:52] <omar> well ... I get the Kubuntu screen during booting off
[10:53] <fred__> help me. my Konqueror is too slowly!
[10:53] <fred__> and use my CPU 100% when load some page
[10:53] <fred__> such as some page of codex.wordpress.org
[10:54] <soundmaster80> well, it has installed but now i have no splash screen
[10:54] <soundmaster80> goes from booting grub to KDE
[10:54] <soundmaster80> with blank screen between the 2
[10:55] <ArmedGeek> fred__: sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:55] <fred__> ArmedGeek : I don't like it
[11:00] <afm\colossus> hello there
[11:00] <Emess> ok i will pay someone to get ANY distro working on this box with KDE
[11:00] <visik7> omar: why you haven't installed kubuntu directly ?
[11:01] <afm\colossus> is it possible to completely disable KDE's "Trash"-thingie?
[11:01] <omar> visik7: a mistake ... besides .. its not my laptop
[11:01] <afm\colossus> Emess: what box? ;)
[11:01] <omar> visik7: is there a way I could use the Kubuntu logo instead of the Xubuntu one during the boot up screen ?\
[11:02] <visik7> sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[11:02] <omar> visik7: and why didnt this happen automaticaly since I remove all Xubuntu stuff and installed the Kubuntu stuff !
[11:02] <visik7> 'couse is a thing come from the install not from packages
[11:03] <Emess> its an amd athlon xp 1800+, 512mb ram, 80gb hdd, and a GeForce4 4200Ti
[11:03] <omar> visik7: /usr/lib/usplash/kubuntu-splash.so
[11:03] <omar> it is the default !
[11:03] <Emess> that graphics card kills every distro that uses X unless its flux or in some rare cases xfce
[11:03] <afm\colossus> well, i don't see any problem getting anything to run on that hardware, Emess
[11:03] <visik7> omar: ok you need to regenerate the initrd
[11:04] <visik7> omar: check on the wiki how to change usplash image
[11:04] <afm\colossus> i've been using numerous gf4 cards in numerous boxes over the years
[11:04] <omar> visik7: will do ... thanks alot
[11:04] <Emess> me neither, but it crashes on all debian based distros, wont even install if its graphical
[11:04] <afm\colossus> and X is not overly distribution-specific
[11:04] <afm\colossus> you just need to get its config right
[11:04] <Emess> the config was perfect
[11:05] <Emess> anyway attepmting slack oon it, and after that DesktopBSD
[11:05] <afm\colossus> tried knoppix yet?
[11:06] <Emess> yup
[11:06] <afm\colossus> does it work?
[11:06] <Emess> mandrake, debian, *ubuntu, suse, xandros, net/free/open BSD/ redhat, fedora
[11:06] <Emess> nope
[11:10] <Healot> I can't believe i just install zango just to watch softcore videos :)
[11:34] <omar_> something is flushing my resolv.conf on each reboot !
[11:35] <CVirus> what could be it ?
[11:35] <afm\colossus> your dhcp client
[11:35] <CVirus> afm\colossus: how can I disable it ?
[11:35] <CVirus> I mean disable the flushing feature onl
[11:36] <CVirus> only*
[11:36] <afm\colossus> depends on what kubuntu uses as its default client
[11:36] <afm\colossus> for dhcpcd at least, there's an option for that
[11:36] <afm\colossus> -P or so, i believe
[11:36] <afm\colossus> you've got to edit the initscript for your network manually
[11:37] <CVirus> daah
[11:39] <Henk> Hi, can anyone recommend me a highlevel database disign tool
[11:41] <Healot> like mysql or postgres?
[11:42] <afm\colossus> a design tool, not a DBMS
[11:42] <afm\colossus> (i can't, for that matter)
[11:42] <Healot> mysqladmin then?
[11:42] <Henk> I want to design on an entity relations level
[11:43] <Healot> or my favorite MS SQL Server or MS Access... heh wrong platform
[11:44] <psb154> lol
[11:44] <Henk> I'm not talking about what database server to use. I'm going to abstract from it anyway.
[11:45] <psb154> Does openoffice do something like that, a databasey interface desiny thingy
[11:47] <cox377> does anyone notice with kubuntu that sometimes text just isn't 100% clear and tidy?
[11:47] <cox377> i say kubuntu, but i dont know if it's any linux
[11:48] <cox377> http://img18.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc179&image=23424_adsl_att_vs_speed_chart.JPG
[11:48] <cox377> if you look @ that image you may see what i mean, on konveration its fine
[11:48] <cox377> but someitmes, within firefox it's like that
[11:49] <Henk> hey OO indeed seems to have it. I thought OO database was an 'access' clone but it's not
[11:49] <Henk> great
[11:50] <Henk> cox that is a gnome vs kde thing i thing. Look at GTK fonts etc.
[11:50] <cox377> henk: i'm on kde, it just seems when using just firefox actually it doesnt always seem clear
[11:50] <cox377> i;ve tried different fonts and it doesnt seem to change
[11:50] <Henk> firefox is a gtk aplication
[11:51] <Healot> well, cox377, ff is a gtk program, might behave differently unde KDE
[11:51] <cox377> ahhh
[11:51] <psb154> :-D
[11:52] <BoSJo|zzZzz> All: How can I get permission to move files/folder when i'm not root via Konqueror, don't wanne do sudo all the time in cmd
[11:52] <Henk> psb154, yes i did compare them... and found that they differ... jeez some people are a bit to much on edge when it comes to MS vs. Linux
[11:52] <psb154> :-)
[11:53] <Chryseus> BoSJo|zzZzz: kdesu konqueror
[11:53] <psb154> lol
[11:53] <BoSJo> Chryseus: thanks
[11:55] <cox377> i think i know what the firefox problem is, i can only run this machine @ 1024 rez for some reason and thus i've had to decrease FF text size to make it usable, and when i increase it goes clear., so i think i need to sort this rezolution out
[11:55] <psb154> cox377 firefox allows you choose which fonts it uses for headings etc,,, mumble
[11:56] <Chryseus> I think you need to set Xft.dpi to something so that all programs no matter if it's kde or gtk will use same dpi settings
[11:56] <cox377> psb154: i've changed the fonts about.. but i dont think it's a font issue
[11:57] <cox377> could someone help me with upgrading my graphics driver
[11:57] <cox377> -display
[11:57] <cox377>                 description: VGA compatible controller
[11:57] <cox377>                 product: VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video
[11:57] <cox377>                 vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
[11:57] <cox377>                 physical id: 0
[11:57] <cox377>                 bus info: pci@01:00.0
[11:57] <cox377>                 version: 01
[11:57] <cox377>                 size: 64MB
[11:57] <cox377>                 width: 32 bits