[00:04] <kub^> BluesKaj are there any other clients for burning i can use ?
[00:04] <BluesKaj> k9copy
[00:05] <BluesKaj> or kiso
[00:05] <vzduch> burning what?
[00:05] <kub^> thank you :)
[00:05] <kub^> dvd isos
[00:06] <Daisuke_Ido> gnomebaker!
[00:06] <BluesKaj> kub^, you'll prolly have to DL those apps
[00:06] <Daisuke_Ido> >_>
[00:06] <vzduch> if you have an ISO you can burn it w/ any burning program
[00:06] <Daisuke_Ido> if k3b won't burn it, the others won't either
[00:06] <BluesKaj> his k3b is not doing the job
[00:06] <Daisuke_Ido> they all use the same backend, i think
[00:07] <kub^> my k3b freezes the pc requiring a hard reset even when i only look at the further actions menu with a blank dvd  in
[00:07] <vzduch> if there is no limitation built into growisofs preventing you from burning DL DVDs, it shouldn't be a problem
[00:08] <BluesKaj> growisofs is the actual app that most use
[00:09] <kub^> when k3b works thats what it uses yeah, maybe i should just use growisofs from the command line
[00:10] <vzduch> does that same DVD recorder work in other OSes (e.g. Windoze)?
[00:10] <vzduch> probably a hardware problem if it freezes on popping in a blank DVD
[00:11] <kub^> it seems to work 1 out of say 4 goes, kinda hoping it isnt hardware >.< i'll try another client first :)
[00:12] <vzduch> it might already help to just open the case and make sure that all cables are properly connected
[00:13] <kub^> yeah good idea
[00:14] <BluesKaj> kub^, does nero or whatever client you use work in windows ?
[00:14] <kub^> yeah with no problems
[00:15] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, might be an issue with automounting then
[00:16] <sub[t]rnl> automounting? his fstab?
[00:17] <hitmanWilly> or dbus/hal
[00:17] <sub[t]rnl> yeah I guess growisofs wont be able to burn a mounted DVD.
[00:17] <hitmanWilly> he said that it freezes when he just sticks the dvd in
[00:17] <sub[t]rnl> kub^: make sure noauto is in your fstab for you burning rom
[00:17] <kub^> ok sec
[00:18] <kub^> is that /etc/fstab coz i dont see a line noauto
[00:18] <kub^> ?
[00:18] <sub[t]rnl> yeah
[00:18]  * BluesKaj studies growisofs man pages ...seems simple enuff ...the examples are clear
[00:19] <sub[t]rnl> still, theres a pitfall if his fstab is auto mounting the dvd's
[00:19] <sub[t]rnl> won't be able to burn
[00:19] <kub^> when i pop a dvd in a window pops up asking me if i want to open it in k3b
[00:20] <hitmanWilly> just cancel that out
[00:20] <sub[t]rnl> kub^: show me the line in fstab for your dvdrom
[00:21] <hitmanWilly> assuming you want to use growisofs
[00:21] <sub[t]rnl> right
[00:21] <kub^> apologies i missed it it does have no auto "/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0"
[00:21] <sub[t]rnl> noauto is in there
[00:21] <sub[t]rnl> then thats not the problem
[00:22] <n1ghtm4r3> !beryl
[00:22] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[00:23] <n1ghtm4r3> !compiz
[00:23] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:28] <bascule_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sshbHTDSwCk
[00:28] <bascule_> funny
[00:30] <stdin> !offtopic | bascule_
[00:30] <ubotu> bascule_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[00:30] <bascule_> fair enough, but still funny :P
[00:42] <n1ghtm4r3> !compiz
[00:42] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:44] <kub^> ok guys just wrote a 4.4gb img file to dvd from the command line with growisofs with zero problems
[00:45] <kub^> i'll continue with the command line, thanks for all your input :)
[00:46] <carlos_> hola
[00:47] <NickPresta> !es | carlos_
[00:47] <ubotu> carlos_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:48] <Antoine> hi
[01:04] <somekool> !ja
[01:04] <ubotu> 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[01:04] <somekool> !jp
[01:08] <BluesKaj> kub^, yes the CLI is nice to use , i like the "tovid" app for doing avi transcodes to dvd . It works very nicely .
[01:21] <huibuh> hi, can anybody help me to install kde4
[01:23]  * BluesKaj watches everyone recede into the darkness :)
[01:23] <blizzzek> bye
[01:35] <kantlivelong> hey all
[01:35] <kantlivelong> is there a vnc server on the default ubuntu install?
[01:36] <BluesKaj> no
[01:56] <dmcglone> #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:57]  * genii sips
[01:58] <K`zan> Should ksoftirqd/1 be taking up 15% of one cpu rather continuously ?
[01:58] <user_> hi all.  I installed Nero Linux, and everything went fine.  However, when it scans for supported devices, it reports that it can't get access to /dev/sg0... how do I permanently allow access?  Many thanks!
[01:59] <etfb> K`zan: 15% isn't that much, is it?
[01:59] <K`zan> out of 200% (both CPUs) no, not really, just never noticed it before.
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> user_: well, "sudo chmod a+w /dev/sg0" should do it.
[01:59] <K`zan> Nice thing about linux, you are always learning something new :-).
[02:00] <user_> nosredaekim: i shall try.  on the forums, people were saying edit this file, comment this or that, but i thought there would be a simpler answer :)
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> K`zan: thats the kernel interrupt I think....
[02:00] <etfb> K`lan: often while dogpaddling frantically around a whirlpool...
[02:00] <K`zan> LOL, that is TOO TRUE LOL!
[02:01] <K`zan> Just converted back to kubuntu after a foray into fedora (ewwww!).
[02:01] <etfb> K`zan: what was it like?  I last tried it when it was Red Hat, MANY years ago.
[02:01] <K`zan> This version (7.10) seems to like my USB devices :).
[02:01] <K`zan> Fedora is ****NOT*** our red hat of yesteryear :).
[02:01] <user_> nosrednaekim: do i have to reboot for that change to take effect? i restarted nero, and got the same message :/
[02:02] <K`zan> etfb: I upgraded it and broke a lot of things, I suppose I should have known better...  Managed to kluge fixes to get it going but I just am NOT a fan of RPMs.
[02:02] <K`zan> Deb is the best :).
[02:02] <K`zan> Deb / deb derived is the best :).
[02:02] <etfb> K`zan: that's my experience too.
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> user_: nope,no need to restart
[02:03] <K`zan> Now if I can remember what my CUPS net work printer URL is, I'll be set :).
[02:04] <K`zan> Do that so seldom that I forget it and have never figured out where CUPS keeps that info.
[02:04] <K`zan> cd cups
[02:05] <user_> nosrednaekim: hmmm... that didn't work then.  how do i load the sg module?
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> user_: the what?
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> user_: try running nero as root
[02:06] <user_> k hang on
[02:07] <user_> nosrednaekim: Ok _that_ works.... now i'm confused!
[02:07] <user_> would chown dwflo:dwflo /dev/sg0  work?
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> user_: i'm not sure, but there is really no harm in running it as root, in fact its slightly better
[02:08] <user_> nosrednaekim: is there a way to do it automatically, or will i have to open a terminal and "sudo nero"?  (not that it's a lot of work, but...)
[02:09] <bmk789> what does a grub read error mean?  it just started after i switched my motherboard
[02:09] <bmk789> user_: you could create a shortcut to run "kdesu nero"
[02:09] <user_> bmk789: how do i do that?
[02:10] <bmk789> user_: right click your desktop and create new link to application
[02:10] <user_> ok
[02:10] <user_> i've done _that_ before
[02:10] <genii> bmk789: make sure hd is plugged into identical channel eg: primary or secondary if IDE also that head/sectors/cylinder mapping is same
[02:11] <bmk789> genii: everythings plugged in the same
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> user_: make an icon whose command is "kdesudo nero"
[02:11] <user_> ok
[02:11] <pastry> can someone please help me step by step on how to share a folder so that my windows pc can see it? i can see the shared folder from windows but its inaccessible. in the add/edit share window in kubuntu, all unspecified users is set to allow, and the only specified user is root, which has admin access rights. but i cannot access the folder from windows, though i do see it
[02:12] <genii> bmk789: Then likely bios maps the drive differently than the previous one did
[02:12] <etfb> user_: he meant kdesu nero, not kdesudo...
[02:12] <user_> aha! "sudo chown username:username /dev/sg0" also works!
[02:12] <etfb> user_: sounds like a Japanese anime, doesn't it!
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> etfb: actually,I meant kdesudo
[02:12] <user_> you guys are right, i'm sure!
[02:12] <bmk789> genii: the /dev files are the same as before
[02:12] <user_> aren't they the same?
[02:12] <etfb> nosrednaekim: really?  Sorry!  What's the difference?
[02:13] <genii> bmk789:  /dev files have nothing to do with how bios sees the geometry of the drive
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> !kdesudo | etfb
[02:13] <ubotu> etfb: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[02:13] <user_> can i use them interchangably?
[02:14] <user_> kdesu is definitely a faster type
[02:14] <etfb> nosrednaekim: foo!  You learn something new every nanosecond round here.  I'll have to go look up the history behind that.
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> user_: I think in gutsy, kdesu is juct linked to kdesudo
[02:14] <user_> gotcha.  i just learned something today (well, a couple things).  Thanks guys
[02:15] <K`zan> anyone know where cups stores remote printers, it is not in /etc/cups/printers.conf no matter what they say :-).
[02:15] <genii> bios = motherboard hardware
[02:15] <K`zan> Only thing there is my local printer.
[02:15] <user_> alright, I'm off to burn libraries of data.  Thanks all!
[02:15] <dmcglone> cups don't store network printers
[02:15] <dmcglone> unless you use the web interface
[02:16] <flaccid> store?
[02:16] <genii> !ping
[02:16] <ubotu> pong
[02:16] <genii> just checking
[02:16] <user_> aw crap, i'm back
[02:16] <K`zan> dmcglone: Then how does it know about the network printer after reboots, it has GOT to be someplace...
[02:16] <etfb> genii: ever get the feeling the people who designed IRC had too much time on their hands?
[02:17] <genii> etfb: Sometimes, yes
[02:17] <user_> now, when i insert a disc, i get *two* windows that open, asking what to do with it.
[02:17] <K`zan> Cups is SO frustrating...
[02:17] <etfb> genii: ah well, in contrast I don't have time, so since I've finished my lunch break, I'd better go back to work...
[02:17] <user_> i had this before, and i always got an "unmounting error" whenever i tried to eject the disc.  How do i fix this one?
[02:18] <genii> etfb: Enjoy! ;)
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> user_: try "sudo eject /dev/sg0"
[02:18] <user_> nosrednaekim: yes, that will eject the disc, but how do i stop two instances of mounting the disc in the first place?
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> user_: oh..
[02:19] <user_> in the windows that pop up, the disc is blue, and in the other window, the disc is golden... what the heck?
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> user_: ah... its cause you are running nero as root, so the root "user" tries to mount it as well
[02:20] <crush_groove> user ./do you have a disc in the cd tray ?
[02:20] <BluesKaj> K`zan, check /var/run/cups/cups.sock
[02:21] <user_> nosrednaekim: this is happening without even opening nero
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> user_: oh.. you probably have another app open as root.its a known bug
[02:22] <user_> screenshot ----> http://legalcondom.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/ac/ac1963e70f0baa58da355b640020125366a85bad.png
[02:22] <crush_groove> user_ . take the cd out of the tray .. Kubuntu will mount any cd dvd ddr ect that has a cd in it .
[02:22] <user_> sorry about the urlname... i uploaded to waffleimages.com XD
[02:23] <crush_groove> *cdr
[02:23] <user_> crush_groove: ok, but how do i stop the two separate instances of mounting?
[02:24] <crush_groove>  take 1 of the cds out
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> user_: see, note one icon is different?
[02:25] <user_> crush_groove: i only have one cd - only one drive
[02:25] <user_> am i not understanding  ?:
[02:25] <crush_groove>  see the box at the bottome that says what do you want to do next time ?
[02:25] <user_> the "configure" button?
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> crush_groove: umm I don't think you see whats going on here
[02:26] <crush_groove>  gotcha mike
[02:26] <crush_groove>  Ill back out
[02:26] <user_> nosrednaekim: so do you know how to fix this?
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> user_: did you notice that the icons are different?
[02:26] <user_> yes
[02:27] <user_> when i first installed gutsy, this happened, but stopped when i removed Dolphin.  But know i have no idea what to do
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> on if them is the default icon scheme for you, the other is the system default..... its a KDEsudo bug for sure, and I think the creator of kdesudo is already working on it
[02:28] <user_> *now
[02:28] <user_> so i just gotta wait, then, eh?
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> user_: basically, yes... but when one of those dialogs pop up, select the menu which has the "silvery" looking icon
[02:29] <user_> what if i used the default icon scheme... then this problem wouldn't happen?
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> user_: it would, but you couldn't tell the dialogs apart, so you'd be worse off
[02:29] <user_> ugh.
[02:29] <user_> ok then.  thanks for the help once again!
[02:30] <mico> heyheyhey
[02:33] <mico> Soooo.... How about that Leopard?
[02:35] <crush_groove> Leopard ? mac ?
[02:35] <bassmac> so, ubuntu releases come out usually after new version of gnome...but what about kubuntu and new versions of kde?
[02:35] <user_> nosrednaekim: ok, last time i'll be here tonight :)  I think I learned something else new from you
[02:35] <BluesKaj> kde4 will be out in jan
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> bassmac: when it happens, it happens, and ussually you can always get the newest relelase of KDE from backports
[02:35] <mico> Yes! Whoa! Proof of life! ... I'm not alone here :)
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> user_: which is...
[02:36] <bassmac> nosrednaekim, but will it 'just work' or will I have to change things to use it
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> bassmac: yeah... it'll just work
[02:36] <bassmac> good, cause I don't mind fiddling around, but I know people who don't
[02:36] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, we hope .....
[02:36] <user_> nosrednaekim: it turns out i had two instances of konqueror running in the background when i was inserting the disc (i only found out when i rebooted, and on startup, i had to give superuser password).  I killed the instances, inserted the disc, and *poof* - only one window opened!
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> user_: there you go... one of those konquerors was probably running as root
[02:37] <user_> yup!
[02:37] <K`zan> I *hate* cups...
[02:37] <user_> you were right yet again
[02:37] <user_> *bows down*
[02:37] <user_> thanks
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> lol
[02:37] <user_> ok, just wanted to tell you that.
[02:37] <crush_groove> ;)
[02:37] <user_> gnite
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> night..
[02:38] <BluesKaj> K`zan, what's the trouble with cups ?
[02:38] <K`zan> BluesKaj: Just changed distros (to kubuntu) and couldn't remember the URL for the printer and can't find it...
[02:39] <mico> Kubuntu & ark... Right click a file, choose "extract here", then do the same on another file, when the first one completes, the otherone stops tooo, leaving U with the otherone broken.... :-(
[02:39] <K`zan> BluesKaj: Copied the printcap over from the old distro and it works, but the web interface does not report it right, but it works.
[02:39] <K`zan> Did I mention I *hate* cups :-).
[02:40] <maduser> cups.....
[02:40] <BluesKaj> K`zan, just run the wizard again with the network printer and pc it's connected to , turned on.
[02:40] <K`zan> The web interface thinks the url is "/dev/nul" but it works :-).
[02:40] <mico> Poll! Anyone who does NOT hate CUPS raise ha hand!
[02:40] <K`zan> BluesKaj: Did that, didn't find the printer....
[02:40] <K`zan> Offered me a pdf printer :)
[02:40] <K`zan> (to file)
[02:42] <BluesKaj> K`zan, sign on as 'guest"? in the wizard
[02:42] <mico> W-O-W, suddenly a lot of ppl leave....
[02:42] <BluesKaj> as set the driver before printing a test page
[02:43] <mico> ... do I smell bad?
[02:44] <BluesKaj> did you have a sauna , mico ...then you should be ok :)
[02:44]  * crush_groove sprays mico with febreeze
[02:44] <mico> Hehe, indeedie doodie
[02:44] <mico> Hehe
[02:45] <mico> Soooo.... Mmmm.... About them lepperds :-p
[02:47] <mico> I have this problem with Windows Vista... It nags all the time, about everything....
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> mico: please quit spamming
[02:47] <mico> ok..
[02:48] <mico> Any topics I can rant about?
[02:48] <hdevalence> mico: try #windows
[02:48] <mico> Ouch.. That hurt....
[02:50] <pastry> how do i make it so that file browsers such as dolphin or konqueror can read east asian fonts such as japanese? im on a fresh install and all i see are question marks where its supposed to be japanese font as file names
[02:50] <pastry> so i cant copy the files
[02:50] <Ahmuck> language
[02:50] <pastry> i need it to read the font
[02:50] <Ahmuck> your language settings
[02:50] <Teixen> Hi! can anyone tell me how  to open rpm files?
[02:51] <Ahmuck> K-Menu --> System Settings
[02:51] <Ahmuck> Regional and Language, and add japanese
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> !rpm | Teixen
[02:51] <cheguevara> sudo apt-get install rpm
[02:51] <ubotu> Teixen: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:51] <Teixen> thanks!!
[02:52] <Ahmuck> isnt there another program that deals with rpms as well for debain?
[02:52] <mico> Anyone having more than two displays?
[02:52] <Ahmuck> mico:  sup ?
[02:52] <Ahmuck> what's your question
[02:52] <Ahmuck> !gwenview
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gwenview - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <mico> Yo, ahmuck! Nutting much. Tried to get three displays working on Kubuntu, but...
[02:55] <Ahmuck> is there a way to check apt packages that have been downloaded against md5 sums in a batch?
[02:55] <Ahmuck> like a md5 server apt package integrity checker
[02:56] <crimsun> debsums.
[02:56] <Ahmuck> thx
[02:57] <maduser> you i got some kind of fatal error and now i have no sound
[02:58] <maduser> i mean yo
[02:58] <mico> Sometimes I just get that sinkin feeling, when I read Linux manuals, that I'm not being told about all the important bits....
[02:59] <Ahmuck> mico, well, yes, sometimes that is true
[02:59] <Ahmuck> linux can be lean on documentation
[03:01] <mico> Though, even how hard it is to sometimes get things done, when it's done, it keeps on going.
[03:01] <mico> "some systems" just keep making trouble :)
[03:02] <mico> ...even after they're fixed :-p
[03:04] <mico> ... and I think it would be possible to get three displays if I'd splash out n a couple of matrox cards...
[03:05] <mico> BUT! They "just work" when I boot to "that othar operating system"
[03:09] <limac> !kate
[03:09] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[03:09] <limac> !code
[03:09] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[03:09] <crush_groove>  erm pico is in kde too
[03:10] <limac> !kdevelop
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <limac> whats pico?
[03:10] <bazhang> !info pico
[03:10] <ubotu> Package pico does not exist in gutsy
[03:10] <crush_groove>  a nice ( for me) term editor
[03:10] <crush_groove>  looks again
[03:11] <crush_groove> aha
[03:11] <crush_groove>  /pico foo brings up nano
[03:11] <mico> Question: When three gfx cards work in a "insert swearword here"-system, what can one in theory do to make them work in Ubuntu?
[03:12] <crush_groove> no clue ./. not a hardware guy
[03:13] <mico> (tried writing a nice bunch of xorg.conf files... knew them by heart at the end :( )
[03:14] <SavageOne> hey folks
[03:14] <SavageOne> when I run rsync -t *.* linuxmce@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/public/data/videos/  it's doing what I want in terms of pushing my local directory to that remote server, but it's ignoring the local subfolders and sub sub folders, only copying files on the root of that directory
[03:14] <SavageOne> what other switches to I need?
[03:14] <SavageOne> the man rsync isn't helping I've read it all
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> SavageOne: probably like -r or -R for recursive
[03:15] <crush_groove>  did you man rsync?
[03:15] <SavageOne> -r is for recursive, so I did
[03:15] <SavageOne>      --checksum-seed=NUM     set block/file checksum seed
[03:15] <SavageOne>  -4, --ipv4                  prefer IPv4
[03:15] <SavageOne>  -6, --ipv6                  prefer IPv6
[03:15] <SavageOne>  -h, --help                  show this help screen
[03:15] <SavageOne> Please see the rsync(1) and rsyncd.conf(5) man pages for full documentation
[03:15] <SavageOne> See http://rsync.samba.org/ for updates, bug reports, and answers
[03:15] <SavageOne> rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at main.c(1073)
[03:15] <capricori> its -r for recursive
[03:15] <SavageOne> root@mythtv:/myth/video# rsync -av *.* linuxmce@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/public/data/videos/
[03:15] <SavageOne><EMAIL_ADDRESS>password:
[03:16] <SavageOne> building file list ... done
[03:16] <SavageOne> sent 146 bytes  received 20 bytes  66.40 bytes/sec
[03:16] <SavageOne> total size is 478218412  speedup is 2880833.81
[03:16] <SavageOne> woops sorry guys
[03:16] <SavageOne> my bad
[03:16] <SavageOne> yeah I was using -trv
[03:16] <mico> Thanks crush, (for hearing)
[03:16] <SavageOne> so I'd get the time, the recursion, and the verbosity
[03:16] <mico> I'll make sure to do a good & findable howto if I ever get it working
[03:19] <jrsims> need some help getting dual monitor support with my laptop
[03:19] <jrsims> how should I go about this? I have my laptop on and my monitor plugged into my video out port.
[03:19] <yabadaba>  neither knetworkmanager nor gnomenetworkmanager applets show available wireless networks but i can see them via system/admin/network/wireless applet.  would anyone know why this might be happening?  it sounds like either a permissions issue or like the applets aren't able to talk to the device in some other way ... anyone have suggestions for fixing this?
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> yabadaba: dbus issue.
[03:20] <mico> jrsims: ati?
[03:20] <yabadaba> ding, thats what i was looking for thanks!
[03:20] <yabadaba> googling the rest, appreciate athat
[03:20] <jrsims> mico: no
[03:20] <crush_groove>  SavageOne  u usin 3.0?
[03:20] <jrsims> mico: but not sure of the maker
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> yabadaba: try a "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[03:20] <SavageOne> crush: yes
[03:21] <pastry> is there a better volume control program than kmix? or is kmix the best? i cant find an option anywhere so i can set my sound output to 4.0
[03:21] <capricori> yabadaba: let me know if that fixes it, I had the same issue, couldn't find an answer
[03:22] <mico> jrsims: Tell more.. Works with "another" operating system?
[03:22] <crush_groove> http://samba.anu.edu.au/ftp/rsync/rsync-3.0.0pre6-NEWS << has some remarks on -r
[03:23] <jrsims> Ok, so I went into my monitor and display settings and I get this error: "The module Monitor & Display could not be loaded".
[03:23] <jrsims> How do I fix this? I cannot touch any settings.
[03:23] <mico> jrsims: And, looking for cloning or a separate display
[03:23] <jhutchins> pastry: Your mixer selections are pretty much determined by the hardware.
[03:23] <jrsims> mico: do you know what is up with my last issue here?
[03:24] <jrsims> mico: not being able to adjust my monitor and display settings in Administrator mode?
[03:24] <jhutchins> All kmix or alsamixer do is provide a GUI to change the settings.
[03:25]  * jhutchins is not sure just what "set my sound output to 4.0" means, but suspects it's an output mode.
[03:25] <mico> jrsims: Well, no...  This is stupid because this is a fresh install with updates applied.
[03:26] <jrsims> mico: know how I could reinstall the said modules?
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> jrsims: try running "kcmshell displayconfig"
[03:28] <mico> jrsims: something other than displaythings have gone seriously awry...
[03:29] <jrsims> nosrednaekim: ok, now what?
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> jrsims: did that work?
[03:30] <jrsims> nosrednaekim: got a window that said I needed to be in Admin mode to do anything. so I switched to that mode and got "The module Monitor & Display could not be loaded"
[03:30] <jrsims> so same story
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> jrsims: try "kdesudo kcmshell displayconfig"
[03:30] <jrsims> (kde seems really fragile)
[03:30] <jrsims> k
[03:31] <jrsims> nosrednaekim: same exact thing.
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> jrsims: yech. are you running XGL?
[03:32] <jrsims> no
[03:32] <mico> jrsims: kde is a bit "fragile"... But seems like something was missing in the install..... Checksummed the install-cd?
[03:32] <jrsims> should I reinstall KDE over apt?
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> jrsims: are you sure you're not? do you even have it installed?
[03:33] <jrsims> mico: no, I didn't checksum. After install, it was fine. Just now it isn't.
[03:33] <jrsims> nosrednaekim: absolutely positive. I did not install that.
[03:34] <mico> nosrednaekim: Could possibly missing/broken parts be fixed by reinstalling with apt?
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> jrsims: hmm k...
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> jrsims: is this a ubuntu install or a fresh kubuntu?
[03:34] <jrsims> nosrednaekim: it's a pretty fresh kubuntu with updates applied.
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> jrsims: humm.
[03:35] <jrsims> and like I said, I was able to get into this part of KDE before. Not now though.
[03:35] <mico> jrsims: did thing work BEFORE the update?
[03:35] <jrsims> yes
[03:35] <jrsims> The problem started when I went to use the dual display settings.
[03:35] <jrsims> then crapped out.
[03:36] <jrsims> I am just running on a thinkpad
[03:36] <jrsims> no weird hardware
[03:36] <jrsims> intel gma
[03:36] <mico> jrsims: All PC's are weird hardware... :)
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> odd, did that kcmshell spit out any errors to the konsole?
[03:38] <mico> jrsims: Did you "fiddle" with the system earlier?, before the upgrade?
[03:38] <jrsims> mico: installed some packages like irssi, nmap, etc.
[03:39] <jrsims> would reinstalling KDE help? or is there a way to revert to default video settings and start over?
[03:40] <mico> jrsims: me not know jack s*t
[03:41] <mico> jrsims: Hey! Ati & laptop... What happens if the secondary display is ON and connected when You cold boot the machine?
[03:44] <jrsims> mico: I lose the bottom and right sides of the display. it runs at a higher rez but my laptop screen only displays 1280x800 of it.
[03:45] <mico> jrsims: Kinky & clueless...
[03:46] <mico> jrsims: primary or secondary displayu?
[03:46] <crush_groove> bbiab
[03:46] <jrsims> mico: does it matter?
[03:47] <mico> jrsims: yes
[03:47] <devolic> What's the most favored build among everyone?
[03:47] <mico> devolic: each, for thos who built
[03:48] <jrsims> mico: my attached monitor is still blank, but then my laptop has the cropped picture.
[03:50] <mico> jrsims: what did you do to acchieve that? ... Which steps did you take, what do you have & what do you wnat
[03:51] <mico> jrsims: thinkpad? what model? What chip eats your muffin? How can you be cured?
[03:52] <jrsims> doesn't sound like anyone in here can help me. Just going to reinstall kde and pray.
[03:52] <mico> jsims: Who fucked the graphic-cip that should show you the world(+s)
[03:52] <stdin> !language | mico
[03:52] <ubotu> mico: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:52] <twylight> WHAT
[03:53] <mico> jrsims: googling similar problems night help (bows down head in shame)
[03:56] <mico> bang.... bang... Bang....
[04:05]  * oobe is now known as poofucker
[04:06] <grul> !python
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <grul> !apache
[04:06] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:08] <Voyage__> any one using virtual box? how to share folders in a winodws xp ?
[04:10] <mico> !life
[04:10] <ubotu> life is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:11] <mico> !channels
[04:11] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[04:13] <Voyage__> anyhelp pls?
[04:15] <twylight> nuu ^_^
[04:15] <snakattak> how can I chose the installer to install on a Raid0 device? /dev/md0, etc...
[04:15] <bazhang> Voyage__: ask in #vbox
[04:18] <Voyage__> how to kill a proces run by root
[04:18] <ardchoille> sudo kill <process>
[04:21] <Voyage__> k
[04:22] <Voyage__> ardchoille sudo kill dolphin    ?
[04:23] <abdulla> my gnome desktop http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/13/f_mydesktopm_81765b4.png&srv=img33
[04:24] <ardchoille> Voyage__: this should work: sudo kill $(pidof d3lphin)
[04:25] <Voyage__> ardchoille how do i know the pid of it
[04:26] <ardchoille> Voyage__: You don't need to worry about it,  it's like saying "sudo kill $(find the pid of d3lphin)"
[04:26] <Voyage__> not working
[04:27] <ardchoille> Voyage__: pidof d3lphin
[04:27] <Voyage__> its dolphin. not d3lphin
[04:28] <ardchoille> Voyage__: /usr/bin/dolphin: symbolic link to `/usr/bin/d3lphin'  It's a symlink  ;)
[04:28] <ardchoille> Voyage__: ok: sudo kill $(pidof dolphin)
[04:29] <stuffcorpse> sudo pkill dolphin?
[04:29] <Neville> Would somebody here be able to tell me how to set a partition as my swap partition?
[04:29] <Neville> I already have it set to Linux Swap, but it's not being recognised as of yet
[04:30] <Voyage__> k
[04:30] <Voyage__> sudo kill $(pidof dolphin) woked
[04:30] <sub[t]rnl> Neville: how do you mean, it isn't being recognized?
[04:31] <sub[t]rnl> Neville: it doesn't show up in sudo fdisk -l
[04:31] <Neville> It shows up in there, what I mean is how to I get it to be used?
[04:31] <ardchoille> Voyage__: That's strange because when I run dolphin and do "pidof dolphin" nothing is returned. However, a pid *is* returned when I do "pidof d3lphin"
[04:31] <sub[t]rnl> Neville: it will be used when your physical ram is full, as a backup
[04:32] <Voyage__> i want to increase security of my folders. i want any users to only be able to view its contents. a password should be asked every time if modifing or deleting...  how can do it?
[04:32] <Neville> No, because it's not appearing in Kinfocentre
[04:32] <Neville> It says Swap Partition Not available
[04:33] <Neville> It's because I had to do a frankensteins monster of sorts to my hard drives, in order to keep alot of data that I can't replace anytime soon
[04:34] <Neville> And that meant lots of messy cutting and pasting of partitions, not to mention fiddling with Grub alot
[04:34] <Voyage__> so that not even a virus can effect my linux of data?
[04:34] <snakattak> is dmraid or mdadm preffered for installation? Can you alternate between the 2 programs?
[04:34] <ardchoille> Voyage__: You don't have to worry about viruses in Linux: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/
[04:35] <snakattak> is there a better place to help me with raid questions?
[04:35] <Neville> -_-v
[04:35] <Neville> Nevermind
[04:36] <Neville> I'll work it out on my own
[04:36] <Neville> Thanks anyway
[04:37] <Voyage__> i dont care about the system........ i care about data. drives mounted......
[04:40] <twylight> eldfh
[04:42] <Voyage__>  i dont care about the system........ i care about data. drives mounted......eg. a friend of mine, a virus can do any things what a user logged in can do.......for that  i want to increase security of my folders. i want any users to only be able to view its contents. a password should be asked every time if modifing or deleting...  how can do it?
[04:44] <Jyzygzel-> doesn
[04:44] <Jyzygzel-> doesn't ubuntu come with NTFS-3g
[04:44] <ardchoille> Voyage__: A Linux system is too hostile an environment for a virus to thrive and propogate. Any downloaded file must be made executable before it can even run, and then, without admi provs, can't do any damage to anything outside of $HOME.
[04:44] <sub[t]rnl> Jyzygzel-: don't think so, hafta apt it
[04:45] <Jyzygzel-> there is no package for it
[04:45] <Jyzygzel-> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[04:45] <Jyzygzel-> not found
[04:45] <grul> Voyage__, just chown everything to root :p but i don't think it's a good idea, because programs that need the files won't be able to use them
[04:46] <ubuntu_> i was installing kubuntu
[04:46] <sub[t]rnl> Jyzygzel-: might have to enable multiverse repo's
[04:46] <ubuntu_> and my computer retsrtaed
[04:46] <sub[t]rnl> !repos
[04:46] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:46] <Jyzygzel-> oh
[04:46] <Jyzygzel-> ok
[04:46] <ubuntu_> any pointers?
[04:46] <ardchoille> !info ntfs-3g feisty
[04:46] <ubotu> ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB
[04:46] <Jyzygzel-> added universe and still nothing
[04:46] <Jyzygzel-> multiverse then
[04:47] <ardchoille> Jyzygzel-: did you update your sources after adding?
[04:47] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get update
[04:47] <ardchoille> Jyzygzel-: sudo apt-get update
[04:47] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu_: did the install finish?
[04:47] <Voyage__> grul i only need that for mounted data drives.... no apps concerned.. how can i do it?
[04:47] <ubuntu_> naw
[04:47] <ubuntu_> it was done
[04:47] <Jyzygzel-> umm why doesn't that document tell the address??
[04:47] <Jyzygzel-> for the multiverse
[04:47] <ubuntu_> well it was yp to the poitn were it was configuring
[04:47] <ubuntu_> up*
[04:48] <Jyzygzel-> hmm wait a minute i have both multi and universe installed
[04:48] <Jyzygzel-> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[04:48] <Jyzygzel-> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[04:48] <ardchoille> !info ntfs-3g dapper
[04:48] <ubotu> Package ntfs-3g does not exist in dapper
[04:48] <ardchoille> Jyzygzel-: ^^
[04:48] <Jyzygzel-> how do i get better
[04:49] <ardchoille> !upgrade | Jyzygzel-
[04:49] <ubotu> Jyzygzel-: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:49] <mico> There's no nazier system than the irc
[04:49] <ubuntu_> how
[04:49] <ubuntu_> do i resume installation
[04:49] <ubuntu_> É
[04:49] <Jyzygzel-> wow im running old
[04:50] <mico> :)
[04:50] <Jyzygzel-> no wonder my ATI card doesn't work
[04:50] <sub[t]rnl> hrm, try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:50] <ubuntu_> how do i get thatÉ
[04:50] <ubuntu_> run commandÉ
[04:50] <sub[t]rnl> alt+f2 and type "konsole", then type that in the konsole
[04:51] <Jyzygzel-> ewww i have to restart between updates ;(
[04:51] <Jyzygzel-> linus should have made his kernels hotpluggable
[04:51] <ubuntu_> okay now i type in configure -a
[04:52] <sub[t]rnl> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:52] <sub[t]rnl> ^^
[04:52] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu_ was this an upgrade, or a fresh install?
[04:52] <ubuntu_> well i had windows installed
[04:52] <ubuntu_> and i did the one were it creates a new harddrive
[04:53] <ubuntu_> nothing happened i typed it in the window just closed
[04:53] <sub[t]rnl> since its a fresh install, I would just start over
[04:53] <ubuntu_> fuck
[04:54] <ubuntu_> so i have to reformat that shit againÉ
[04:54] <ubuntu_> i was trying to boot computer without cd and windows doesnt even run now
[04:54] <sub[t]rnl> watch the language, if you would
[04:54] <ubuntu_> is that normal if windows doesnt run
[04:54] <ubuntu_> while installin linux half way É
[04:55] <sub[t]rnl> you don't have a boot loader installed in your MBR
[04:55] <ardchoille> !language | ubuntu_
[04:55] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[04:55] <sub[t]rnl> re-install linux and it will work
[04:55] <ubuntu_> windows as wellÉ
[04:55] <sub[t]rnl> !grub | ubuntu_
[04:55] <ubotu> ubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:55] <ubuntu_> i have another question
[04:56] <ubuntu_> how many hard drives are made when installing linuz 2É
[04:57] <sub[t]rnl> partitions? thats completely up to you.  A basic installation would be 1 partition for your root (/) 1 partition for /home, and one for swap space
[04:57] <ubuntu_> oh okay okay
[04:57] <ubuntu_> let me try it now
[04:57] <ubuntu_> so ones gona be éhome
[04:57] <sub[t]rnl> keep in mind you'll want more space going towards your /home partition
[04:58] <ubuntu_> so ones called home and others swap
[04:58] <sub[t]rnl> right, the mount point of one partition will be /home
[04:58] <sub[t]rnl> ext3 filesystem
[04:58] <ubuntu_> ye i was lostt, cause i didnt know the difference between home and boot
[04:58] <ubuntu_> and the other options
[04:58]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[04:58] <ubuntu_> nodsÉ
[04:59] <sub[t]rnl> you might want to read up a little on partitions, and plan out how you want your system laid out
[04:59] <sub[t]rnl> nothing wrong with thinking ahead
[05:00] <ubuntu_> alright
[05:00] <ubuntu_> thanks a mill
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> anytime
[05:00] <twylight> I am so tired
[05:00] <twylight> it is not even funny
[05:01] <ubuntu_> do you get paid for thisÉ
[05:01] <twylight> I wish
[05:01] <ubuntu_> lolz
[05:01] <ubuntu_> so you guys help out others out of your own will
[05:01] <twylight> pretty much
[05:01] <Lynoure> Not here, but elsewhere I do... this is volunteering.
[05:01] <ubuntu_> nice
[05:01] <sub[t]rnl> actually, I have a paypal setup that you must donate too now. since you listened to me
[05:02] <sub[t]rnl> sorry :/
[05:02] <twylight> although I have this chatroom and the tech support I do (not too often anymore) on my resume
[05:02] <ubuntu_> lolz
[05:02] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[05:02] <ubuntu_> sure
[05:02] <ubuntu_> ill give it a second thought
[05:04] <Dr_willis> You have 'I Irc a lot' on your resume?
[05:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:05] <twylight> well it's worded as "tech support for unix based systems"
[05:06] <twylight> I need to eat and sleep
[05:06] <twylight> I should set up an IV so I only have to ever do one
[05:07] <bazhang> put caffeine in the IV
[05:07] <Dr_willis> 'experienced in digital downloading of adult media' :)
[05:08] <twylight> arr, I be a computer pirate
[05:08] <Neville> It's alive.
[05:08] <Dr_willis> I always end up being tech support for my wife.. for gizmios and programs ive never used befor...
[05:08] <twylight> I've over ten terabytes of booty locked away in me harddrives
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Right now she has a new Dig. Camera. and shes asking me 'how do i do this... ' and ive never even HELD the camera befor. :)
[05:11] <Jyzygzel-> how do i read the USB traffic
[05:11] <twylight> you don't
[05:11] <twylight> it reads you
[05:11] <twylight> oh wait that's chuck norris nvm
[05:12] <Jyzygzel-> no thats soviet russia edition
[05:13] <Jyzygzel-> in sovietbuntu devices read you
[05:16] <adamonline45> Does anyone know why my system tray icons are all opened as real windows and displayed on my taskbar, instead of in the system tray?
[05:16] <twylight> are you doing it wrong?
[05:17] <adamonline45> doing what wrong?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> ive seen that happen when kwin crashes , or you are running a window manager other then kwin
[05:22] <adamonline45> Dr_willis: Oh, hello again!  I'm using KDE (kwin) and CF.  The weird thing is, you'd think if I just closed them and restart my machine, they'd be back into the system tray.  I'm starting to think it's just a setting somewhere, but I've scoured to no avail...
[05:23] <Dr_willis> CF?
[05:23] <adamonline45> Dr_willis: Sorry, Compiz Fusion
[05:24] <Dr_willis> all bets are off with COmpiz. :)
[05:24] <Dr_willis> who knows what bugs are out there.
[05:25] <adamonline45> Dr_willis: Hah... Yeah, understandable... So, is that where you'd put your money?
[05:25]  * adamonline45 waits for kde4
[05:25] <Dr_willis> disable  it and see if it still happens
[05:28] <adamonline45> Dr_willis: Heh, good thinkin' 8)
[05:35] <jessie> hello people
[05:35] <Saagar> Hi
[05:36] <Saagar> i need to know about multicasting,  can anybody help
[05:37] <jessie> hey, does anybody know if kubuntu 7.10 with kde4 is going to have a diff kernel?
[05:37] <etfb> Saagar: it's a big topic. Can you narrow down your question a little?
[05:38] <etfb> jessie: AFAIK, you'll be able to upgrade to KDE4 when it arrives (January?) but it's independent of the kernel upgrades
[05:38] <Saagar> yes. Whenever I enable multicasting in my ip cam, my LAN gets congested
[05:38] <jessie> etfb, dang... when is the next kernel update going to be out/
[05:38] <jessie> ?
[05:38] <Saagar> any guess etfb?
[05:39] <bazhang> jessie: hardy?
[05:39] <jessie> dang...
[05:39] <jessie> thats a while away...
[05:39] <jessie> back to compliing my own...
[05:39] <twylight> whenever linus says so
[05:39] <bazhang> not so, you can install it now :}
[05:39] <etfb> Saagar: it's well beyond my area of knowledge.  What I'd suggest is rephrasing the question with a different focus.  A lot of people are lurking here but only glancing this way occasionally.  You may catch their eye with different keywords.
[05:40] <jessie> what? hardy? and i meant if there was going to be a kernel update for kubuntu
[05:40] <etfb> jessie: new kernels come down the line every couple of months at least.  I got ?4 with feisty.
[05:40] <bazhang> for gutsy?
[05:40] <jessie> yeah
[05:40] <etfb> jessie: probably about due for a new one, actually
[05:40] <twylight> kubuntu = debian = linux = linus torvalds controls the kernel updates
[05:40] <bazhang> update or new kernel
[05:41] <jessie> my bad... im a bit tired.... and he does? like, update from 2.6.20-15-generic to .16?
[05:41] <bazhang> currently <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[05:41] <etfb> jessie: that sort of thing comes out when the gods of Ubuntu say.  Won't be that long.  Why do you want a new kernel?
[05:41] <twylight> dsfargeg
[05:42] <Saagar> I enabled the cam to the multicast address <IP_ADDRESS> . Does it multicast outside my LAN?
[05:42] <twylight> lol
[05:42] <jessie> cause... my gateway laptop wont even boot into the one that shipped with gutsy. so i have gutsy everything except the kernel, etfb
[05:42] <twylight> I love music
[05:43] <twylight> it makes my life less boring
[05:43] <Saagar> to my knowledge 239.x.x.x is within the network . right?
[05:43] <adamonline45> it's not kubuntu = ubuntu = debian etc...?
[05:43] <twylight> <IP_ADDRESS> <3
[05:43] <etfb> jessie: yikes!  I guess the best thing to do is compile your own kernel.  I'm told it's not hard (and it's a rite of passage for Linux g33ks) but I've never done it.
[05:43] <twylight> no, kubuntu is the same thing as ubuntu with a different UI
[05:44] <jessie> etfb: just did.... im just talking on msn to a girl i like and dont want to restart... lmao!
[05:44] <twylight> ubuntu is debian based or debian compatible, not like I care
[05:44] <adamonline45> Oh, I thought they were distinct distros with their own developers, or what have you
[05:44] <twylight> I'm going to go smoke a cigarette
[05:44] <jessie> have fun twylight
[05:44] <twylight> then wander around aimlessly
[05:44] <jessie> lol... nice
[05:44] <twylight> take a few too many sleeping pills
[05:45] <twylight> and then pass out
[05:45] <jessie> haha wow...
[05:45] <twylight> seriously I'm wired
[05:45] <twylight> and it needs to stop
[05:45] <etfb> adamonline45: Debian is the parent distro, if you like.  Ubuntu is a debian-based distro, but controlled by a company (Shuttleworth's company - starts with C, I'm drawing a blank here...)
[05:45] <twylight> so I'm going to take like two or six sleeping pills
[05:45] <jessie> k guys... time to restart
[05:45] <twylight> ;p
[05:45] <etfb> Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Ubuntu are all just Ubuntu with different windows managers (KDE, XFce and Gnome)
[05:46] <twylight> exactly
[05:46] <adamonline45> gotcha
[05:46] <adamonline45> what's edubuntu?
[05:46] <twylight> linux is frickin' old though
[05:46] <t3ch13> I can't get my sound to work in Kubuntu anybody have any ideas where I can start? It's a laptop.
[05:46] <twylight> edubuntu is ubuntu for schools
[05:46] <twylight> install a sound card
[05:46] <adamonline45> ahh, cool, ty
[05:46] <twylight> drivers
[05:46] <twylight> reinstall
[05:46] <etfb> adamonline45: I recommend Wikipedia for this level of question.  Edubuntu is a set of packages rolled into a distro focused on use in schools
[05:46] <twylight> if all else fails
[05:46] <t3ch13> It has a sound card that works fine in windows
[05:47] <twylight> pray to the sound card gods
[05:47] <twylight> offer them some transistors
[05:47] <Dr_willis>  Edubuntu also has some neat features to get a whole lan of pc's net booting off a main server machine
[05:47] <twylight> if you really want to appease them, sacrifice a new soundblaster card
[05:48] <twylight> tandy cards will annoy them though
[05:48] <twylight> THIS IS WHY I SHOULD NOT STAY UP LATE
[05:48] <adamonline45> lol
[05:57]  * oobe is now known as poofucker
[05:59] <sub[t]rnl> ...
[05:59] <ardchoille> !language | oobe
[05:59] <ubotu> oobe: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:59] <oobe> ok sorry
[05:59]  * oobe is sorry
[06:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:00] <Dr_willis> blame it on the cat on the keyboard!
[06:00] <oobe> yeah tricky cats
[06:00] <Dr_willis> or a younger brother.. :) they are good for blaming things on!
[06:01] <oobe> i would be proud to own a cat like that :P
[06:01] <oobe> or a younger brother for putting cat on keyboard
[06:01] <oobe> yeah that is the sort of thing i would do as a younger brother
[06:01] <twylight> I took like 8 sleeping pills
[06:02] <twylight> pfft no as a yonger brotehr you ahve to piss ont he keyboard
[06:02] <ardchoille> Ok, let's take the offtopic stuff to another channel please.
[06:02] <oobe> twylight, do you require techical support operating kubuntu under the influence of a sleeping pill over dose
[06:03] <twylight> yeah
[06:03] <oobe> see on topic now
[06:04] <oobe> what seems to be the problem apart from slurred typing which i haven't noticed you doing
[06:04] <twylight> wtih teh slllred typeing I cnat workn teh console
[06:04] <twylight> i teher a program to unfcuk my typingg?
[06:05] <onishidato> twylight: chat clearer, i can't understand
[06:05] <Daisuke-Ido> yeah, 'sleep'
[06:05] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[06:05] <twylight> sudo apt-get install ssleep
[06:06] <onishidato> sleep with 2 s ?
[06:06] <twylight> couldn't find package sleep
[06:06] <onishidato> count the sheep
[06:06] <oobe> twylight, go to /dev/null
[06:06] <onishidato> :D
[06:06] <Daisuke-Ido> oobe: you just suggested he undergo a complete existence failure.
[06:07] <twylight> haha
[06:07] <twylight> that's akin to "kill yourself"
[06:07] <crazy_bus> I had a number of downloads in my 'downloader for x' list.  However I ran out of hard drive space on one of my partitions.  This seems to have caused the program to lose the download list.   Can anyone help me out on multicasting. I need to multicast within my LAN
[06:07] <Saagar> What address ahould I use?
[06:08] <onishidato> !multicast
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multicast - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <oobe> Daisuke-Ido, that is my idea of sleep especially in twylight's state :P
[06:09] <Saagar> Thanks uboto
[06:09] <ardchoille> !bot | Saagar
[06:09] <ubotu> Saagar: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:09] <twylight> !sleep
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sleep - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <twylight> k
[06:10] <Saagar> Any channels where I can get help?
[06:10] <onishidato> what is your pro?
[06:10] <oobe> hwy ubutu ahh forget i said anything do not reply
[06:10] <onishidato> can you tell us clearer?
[06:10] <Saagar> multicasting. I need to multicast within my LAN
[06:10] <Saagar> I have an ip cam
[06:10] <Saagar> when i enable it to multicast
[06:10] <Saagar> my LAN gets congested
[06:11] <Saagar> dont know why
[06:11] <Saagar> any guess on this?
[06:11] <oobe> BW
[06:11] <oobe> try a lower bitrate
[06:11] <oobe> and res
[06:11] <Saagar> yes Oobe. I tried
[06:12] <Saagar> That works
[06:12] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm trying to play a game (nexuiz) but every so often X takes up 100% CPU usage for several seconds with no cause.  It's even caused blank screens... Can anyone help me out?
[06:12] <Saagar> But My LAN bandwidth 100 Mbps
[06:12] <onishidato> Ch1ppy: how much ram do you have?
[06:12] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: 2 gigs, and I'm nowhere near that amount
[06:12] <Saagar> i enabled only 6 Mbps in the device
[06:13] <Saagar> would that clog my network?
[06:13] <oobe> Saagar,  but you want use higher res ?
[06:13] <onishidato> Ch1ppy: wow
[06:13] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: :)
[06:13] <Saagar> yes
[06:13] <onishidato> Ch1ppy: and your VGA card?
[06:13] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: eVGA eGeForce 6800 GT
[06:13] <Saagar> I suspect it is streaming outside my LAN.
[06:14] <onishidato> Ch1ppy: maybe you should check your card, cause some cards doesn't support your game setting
[06:14] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: it handles the game really well (100+ FPS) except when X randomly spikes
[06:14] <Saagar> oobe: What do you think?
[06:14] <oobe> Saagar,  yeah it could cause 100 Mbps is still only theoretical speed plus are you streaming to more than one person at once
[06:14] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: so I don't think it's related to the game settings or anything exceeding the capabilities of my box
[06:15] <onishidato> Ch1ppy: does it usually happen?
[06:16] <Saagar> Oobe: How can I limit streaming to a particular group?
[06:16] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: you mean the X spikes?  I'm watching it now, and it doesn't seem to happen without nexuiz running, but I don't see it being an issue with nexuiz
[06:16] <Saagar> Say the ip address range <IP_ADDRESS> - <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:16] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: it does spike to ~4-7% cpu every now and then, but nowhere near the magnitude that I see while playing
[06:16] <oobe> Saagar, not sure
[06:17] <onishidato> Ch1ppy: i c
[06:17] <Saagar> okay oobe. Thank you anyway
[06:17] <oobe> Saagar,  ur probably better limiting access to the ip cam
[06:17] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: yeah... I'm a little confused as to what might cause sudden, short spikes like that too though.  I can't think of anything that would do that... :S
[06:18] <oobe> have u checked whats going on with netstat ?
[06:18] <onishidato> Ch1ppy: or maybe your box is too fast :)
[06:18] <rohan> i want a module to be loaded on startup - what do i do ?
[06:19] <Saagar> oobe: nope. Lemme try that out
[06:19] <onishidato> rohan: which one?
[06:19] <rohan> onishidato: acer_acpi
[06:19] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: hehe.  I doubt it though, since I can see the X process spiking in CPU usage when the lag happens, not just nexuiz compensating or something (I actually had that issue with CS 1.6 on windows before though, dual core problems :) )
[06:19] <Dr_willis> # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
[06:19] <rohan> Dr_willis: thank you.
[06:19] <Dr_willis> rohan,  add it to the /etc/modules file
[06:19] <Saagar> I just wanted to verify if multicasting can also clogg the network. Coz it is a technology to reduce the netwrok traffic. right?
[06:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:20] <Saagar> oobe: Im not good at networks, plz correct me if im wrong
[06:20] <phil_> hey
[06:20] <phil_> wazzup\
[06:20] <twylight> what
[06:21] <phil_> wassup
[06:21] <phil_> whatsup
[06:21] <twylight> that's so 90's
[06:21] <phil_> i know
[06:21] <onishidato> Ch1ppy: got it he he
[06:21] <phil_> i was born in the 88
[06:21] <phil_> the 90`s kicked ass
[06:22] <Dr_willis> What You Talking about phil_ !
[06:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:22] <phil_> the freakin 90s lol
[06:22] <oobe> Saagar, i really dont know much about multicasting but im assuming if you watching a broadcast over your lan it should consume a fair amount of bandwidth
[06:22] <Dr_willis> its all a blure to me...
[06:22] <Daisuke-Ido> lord i feel old now
[06:22] <phil_> dr.willis?
[06:23] <Daisuke-Ido> though i know i'm probably about median around here
[06:23] <Saagar> oobe:thank you
[06:23] <phil_> i love this game awesome
[06:23] <Daisuke-Ido> 28 in just under 3 weeks :\
[06:24] <phil_> tremulous everyone should get it
[06:24] <oobe> Saagar, are you trying to do somthing like a security ip cam system then using lower res should be an easy fix other wise i saw a fairly indepth tutorial on streaming tv over a campus using LAN i cant find it but google should help
[06:25] <phil_hardcore> de de de
[06:25] <Dr_willis> phil_ that game makes me dizy and i puke.. :)
[06:26] <phil_hardcore> sorry
[06:26] <Dr_willis> wall crawling/fisheyed/jumping aliens =  way dizzy :)
[06:26] <phil_hardcore> lol
[06:26] <Saagar> oobe: Okay. Thanks for your patience and help
[06:26] <phil_hardcore> i love that games
[06:26] <Dr_willis> Of course the fact that i SUCK at the game dont help much
[06:26] <oobe> Saagar, as for limiting streaming to a particular group you could use ip tables to set a rule on what ip ranges can access the ip cam
[06:26] <oobe> Saagar, dont ask me how though
[06:26] <phil_hardcore> nexuiz?
[06:26] <Saagar> oobe: :) Sure i wont
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Ill stick with Team Fortress 2 for now. :)
[06:27] <phil_hardcore> lol
[06:27] <Dr_willis> at least i spend more time alive, then dead in TF2
[06:27] <oobe> Saagar, only cause i dont know
[06:27] <phil_hardcore> do you like devil driver?
[06:27] <phil_hardcore> the band?
[06:27] <Mani213> hey im trying to install linux cause my computer retarted mid way
[06:27]  * Dr_willis jams to Kenny G.
[06:27] <Mani213> and im doing it manual install now it doesnt seem to be working
[06:27] <phil_hardcore> oh noo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:27] <monzie> HI all
[06:27] <monzie> I am trying to setup a dedicated partition for builds
[06:27] <monzie> Should i user ResierFS instead of ext3?
[06:28] <oobe> Mani213, my computer was retarted once
[06:28] <phil_hardcore> no use ext3
[06:28] <Dr_willis> I see no reason to use reiserfs over ext3.
[06:28] <Mani213> ye like it was configuring after installing linux
[06:28] <monzie> Dr_willis: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=4#doc_chap4
[06:28] <Dr_willis> Unless you got some very speficic idea/needs as to why you need reiser.
[06:28] <Dr_willis> monzie,  just because gentoo suggests it . doesnt make it a good idea. :)
[06:28] <monzie> The gentoo handbook says reiser is faster than ext3
[06:28] <phil_hardcore> anyone using enlightenment?
[06:28] <Dr_willis> monzie,  ive heard its faster at SOME operations.
[06:28] <monzie> Dr_willis: But i could not get ubuntu's position on filesystems, so aksed
[06:29] <monzie> Dr_willis: for builds?
[06:29] <monzie> Dr_willis: essentiallly i want to build KDE4 on the partition
[06:29] <Dr_willis> phil_hardcore,  been using the gos  and Geubuntu desktops a little. :)
[06:29] <Mani213> how do i install it manualy when the drives are there but it doesnt let me
[06:29] <Mani213> do i check the home drive or the swap driveÉ
[06:29] <phil_hardcore> psh
[06:30] <oobe> Mani213, did u try using the alternate install
[06:30] <Dr_willis> monzie,  i aint touching KDE4 for some time. :)  heh heh .  I dont think you would gain much by using reiserfs on the build filesystem. but try it both ways and see I guess.
[06:30] <Mani213> what do you mean alternate installÉ
[06:30] <monzie> Dr_willis: ok. i like building kde4.
[06:30] <phil_hardcore> i would just wait on kde 4 until the stable comes out
[06:31] <monzie> Dr_willis: Thought my laptop would maybe able to build it faster if i used reiserfs
[06:31] <Dr_willis> laptop hd's are often so slow.. its.. well.. sad. :(
[06:31] <oobe> Mani213, there is a alternate install disk that doesnt use a DE it is all command like a Debian installer and it is much more versatile
[06:31] <Dr_willis> My poor laptop has a  4800 rpm hd. :(
[06:31] <Dr_willis> distcc an a lan of helper machines may help more. :)
[06:31] <Mani213> okay well is there any way of resuming the installationÉ
[06:32] <oobe> u are better off starting again
[06:32] <oobe> was it a fresh install
[06:32] <Mani213> so if the drive is already created from preivous installtion would i just format the ext3 driveÉ
[06:32] <Mani213> or the swap drive toÉ
[06:35] <Jay-Oh-En> is there a popup blocker for kubuntu
[06:36] <maduser> firefox
[06:36] <Dr_willis> There are such extensions for firefox.
[06:36] <Dr_willis> adblock, noscript, and others.
[06:37] <Jay-Oh-En> Dr_willis: oh ok but do they work good
[06:37] <inteliwasp> how can i move data from one computer to another and still make sure it is verified?
[06:37] <Jay-Oh-En> Dr_willis: becuase i get alot of pop up
[06:37] <Jay-Oh-En> s
[06:37] <Dr_willis> they work same for me under windows as they do linux.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> I dont recall getting any popups
[06:38] <Dr_willis> In fact i find it bizzar when i use other pwoples machines that dont have them. at the shere FLood of spammy ads they get. :)
[06:38] <Mani213> is there a software to combain two hard drives back to one disk
[06:39] <Mani213> cause of partitioningÉ
[06:39] <Dr_willis> Who ever came up with that Intellitext Double Underline popup ad/link thing. keeds to be .. well.. removed. :)
[06:40]  * twylight hiccusspssss  mainaiccally
[06:41] <oobe> Mani213, you dont need to format it but it shouldnt take that long and wouldnt hurt
[06:41] <twylight> 10 bed
[06:41] <twylight> 20 goto 10
[06:41] <twylight> 30 end
[06:42] <Dr_willis> 15 print  ZZZzzz...
[06:42] <Mani213> oobe: you know how i mac computers have a icon dock thats 3d can you get that for kubuntu as wellÉ
[06:42] <oobe> Mani213, you can use cfdisk to delete the unwanted partitions and make a new one with the combined space
[06:42] <Dr_willis> theres various  dock/panel replacements for kde.. but a lot of them are rather.. lacking :)
[06:43] <Mani213> so whats the swap drive for storing dataÉ
[06:43] <oobe> Mani213, i really cant answer you last question
[06:43] <ardchoille> !info kooldock | Mani213
[06:43] <ubotu> mani213: kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 523 kB, installed size 980 kB
[06:43] <dsmith_> omb someone programed in basic
[06:43] <dsmith_> lol
[06:43] <dsmith_> OMG
[06:43] <dsmith_> 10 20, 30
[06:45] <Dr_willis> swap partition is  where the linux swaps out  to have extra memory.
[06:45] <Dr_willis> better then a swap file. :)
[06:45] <Dr_willis> Of course if you got a lot of ram. you really dont need one i hear.. but i always put at least 512mb swap partion on all my hd's
[06:46] <Mani213> oh okay okay
[06:46] <Mani213> ye cause i was wondering whats the point of 2 hard drives
[06:46] <Dr_willis> 2 PARTITIONS is NOT the same as 2 hard drives...
[06:46] <Dr_willis> Dont get the 2 terms confused. :)(
[06:47] <Mani213> would the swap file be readable if you operate windows É
[06:47] <oobe> Mani213, you sound like you need to be doing some basic reading up on linux there are many website  resources available to choose from
[06:48] <oobe> Mani213, www.google.com/linux
[06:48] <onishidato> hey guys
[06:48] <adamonline45> Is there anyone familiar with using KDevelop as a C++ IDE?
[06:48] <Mani213> hey im reinstalling and it stoped at scanning mirror
[06:49] <Mani213> at the configuring apt
[06:49] <Dr_willis> windows will not use the linux swap partition, or a linux swap file. :)
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Linux can have swap FILES, and/or swap partitions also. :) and yes you can have one of each. or several of each.
[06:49] <onishidato> i use both window and Kubuntu on my computer. i use 2 HD, 1 for WinXp, and one for Kubuntu, now, i'm using Kubuntu, but i want to check the other hardisk from kubuntu, how can i do now.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> Normal Linux HD layout.  1 drive.. Parittion 1 (as big as ya can get ) mounted to /. then a swap partition.  i make mine 512mb+
[06:50] <Dr_willis> onishidato,  check? you want to scan the ntfs filesystem for errors?
[06:50] <onishidato> no
[06:50] <Dr_willis> define 'check' then. :)
[06:50] <onishidato> i want to get the data from windowxp
[06:51] <Dr_willis> You mean Mount the windows filesystem :)
[06:51] <oobe> onishidato, i think he just wants to look at his windows files
[06:51] <Dr_willis> !ntfs3g
[06:51] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:51] <onishidato> yeah
[06:51] <onishidato> thanks
[06:51] <oobe> onishidato, ls /media/
[06:51] <maduser> found a sick trick to accesning all you partitions at once
[06:51] <Dr_willis> They may allready be mounted in /media/ :)
[06:52] <oobe> Dr_willis,  yeah thats what i was thinking sense ntfs-3g is oobe in gutsy
[06:52] <oobe> maduser, mount all :P
[06:53] <Mani213> yo what do you do when you wana install programs on linux you drag and drop the folder you downloadedÉ
[06:53] <Mani213> into storage É
[06:54] <ardchoille> Mani213: Just curious, but why do you end some sentences with an upper-case e?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> Mani213,  you dont normally install programs in such a way
[06:54] <Dr_willis> The package manager tools allow you to install/remove/update programs in a rather easy way.
[06:54] <Mani213> sorry the É suppose to be questionmark i guess its because im still installing linux right now
[06:55] <ardchoille> Mani213: Ah, ok, no problem.
[06:55] <Mani213> package manager tool that comes with kubuntu 7.10 rightÉ
[06:55] <Dr_willis> of course it comes with it. :)
[06:55] <Dr_willis> !apt
[06:56] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:57] <Dr_willis> if i want to isntall   xchat i use the command 'sudo apt-get install xchat' and it finds/downloads/installs it. :) No web surfing needed.
[06:57] <Dr_willis> If i want the whole of Ubuntu-desktop i install 'ubuntu-desktop' :) that grabs seversl dozen+ packages that are needed.
[06:57] <Dr_willis> well night all. good luck
[06:58] <julian_> Hello world!!
[06:59] <onishidato> hello julian:P
[07:00] <gh> anyone familer with adding lame encoding support to the default kubuntu 7.10 using k3b?
[07:00] <adamonline45> Does anyone know why I'm getting a makefile error in KDevelop when I try to compile even a simple 'hello world' program?
[07:00] <maduser> i would sugest g++
[07:01] <adamonline45> maduser: Me?
[07:01] <pacman> can anyone give me some help with my grub?
[07:02] <julian_> someone knows how to recongnize a cellphone conected by usb as a gsm modem in /dev folder?
[07:02] <gh> or more simply how to install lame without compiling it myself?
[07:02] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install lame lame-extras liblame0
[07:03] <gh> already tried that
[07:04] <gh> errors out
[07:04] <sub[t]rnl> whats it say?
[07:05] <gh> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package lame is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package lame has no installation candidate
[07:06] <jussi01> gh: tried updating?
[07:06] <julian_> maybe you don't have uncommented all the repositories at source.list
[07:06] <jussi01> ie. sudo apt-get update
[07:06] <sfears> hello
[07:06] <gh> I'm unfamiler with kubuntu, but i will try that
[07:07] <sub[t]rnl> !find lame
[07:07] <ubotu> Found: flamerobin, flamethrower, glame, libtwolame-dev, libtwolame0 (and 9 others)
[07:07] <sub[t]rnl> !info lame
[07:07] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.97-0.0 (gutsy), package size 268 kB, installed size 728 kB
[07:07] <gh> also, using the program install i see the only source is the cdrom
[07:07] <sub[t]rnl> make sure multiverse is in your sources.list too
[07:08] <jussi01> yeah, lame is in multiverse so you will need that
[07:08] <gh> I have no idea what sources.list or multiverse is but i will google
[07:09] <onishidato> hey
[07:09] <julian_> please help me!!
[07:09] <onishidato> how can i change to root now?
[07:09] <Daisuke-Ido> !root | onishidato
[07:09] <ubotu> onishidato: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:09] <onishidato> they say i can't unmount my disk, only root can unmount
[07:10] <julian_> does anyone know how to recognize a cellphone conected by usb to my laptop as a gsm modem in /dev folder?
[07:10] <gh> that was easy enough
[07:10] <gh> thank you all
[07:13] <sub[t]rnl> julian_: using wvdial?
[07:13] <onishidato> i can't unmount my CD disk now
[07:13] <onishidato> what can i do
[07:14] <sfears> julian_, http://thesandeep.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/using-a-gsm-cellphone-as-a-gprs-modem/
[07:14] <onishidato> they say only root can unmount it
[07:14] <sub[t]rnl> onishidato: use sudo before the command
[07:14] <sub[t]rnl> !sudo
[07:14] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:14] <onishidato> but can i do it manually?
[07:14] <julian_> no, I'm using a zabbix-server
[07:15] <sub[t]rnl> julian_: sfears gave a nice link, check it out
[07:15] <julian_> I need the phone for sending alarms
[07:15] <sfears> some people say cucumbers taste better pickled
[07:16] <julian_> I'll check it ou
[07:16] <julian_> out
[07:16] <onishidato> Unfortunately, the device system:/media/scd0 (/dev/scd0) named 'Kubuntu 7.10 i386' and currently mounted at /media/cdrom0 could not be unmounted.
[07:16] <onishidato> The following error was returned by umount command:
[07:16] <onishidato> umount: only root can unmount /dev/scd0 from /media/cdrom0
[07:17] <onishidato> i don't know what can i do next
[07:17] <sub[t]rnl> onishidato: sudo umount /media/cdrom0
[07:18] <onishidato> phew
[07:18] <onishidato> thanks
[07:18] <onishidato> i'm the newcomer with Kubuntu
[07:18] <sub[t]rnl> no worries, we're all here to help each other
[07:19] <julian_> the problem is that i don't have ttyACM0 device
[07:20] <julian_> so I don't know where is my phone
[07:20] <julian_> I just need the name under /dev
[07:20] <jussi01> julian_: sometimes it mounts it under ttyACM1
[07:20] <julian_> I don't have it too
[07:20] <julian_> xD
[07:22] <ibilic> hi, in my K menu, most of the entries start with "_: Entries in K-menu:"
[07:22] <ibilic> does anyone know how to fix this?
[07:22] <Jay-Oh-En> should my processor be running 100%
[07:23] <ubuntu> i need help i just installed linux and restarted my pc and it says i have a GRUB ERROR
[07:23] <jussi01> Jay-Oh-En: not unless you are doing something intensive
[07:23] <jussi01> ubuntu: which grub error?
[07:23] <julian_> jussi01 I don't have any ttyACMx device
[07:23] <ubuntu> GRUD ERROR 7
[07:23] <ubuntu> or something
[07:23] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: well im not :[
[07:23] <ubuntu> the first time i restarted it was working fine i could see windows and linux
[07:23] <ubuntu> now it just sats grub error
[07:23] <jussi01> Jay-Oh-En: have a look through your process list to see what is causing it
[07:24] <Jay-Oh-En> htop?
[07:24] <ibilic> also, my USB disk doens't work, it says: "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" in Dolphin
[07:24] <jussi01> Jay-Oh-En: that should work, yes
[07:25] <jussi01> ubuntu: have you changed anything since then?
[07:25] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: X was taking it up
[07:25] <ubuntu> well when i runed windows i tried opening the partitioning program by norton but i didnt change settings
[07:25] <sub[t]rnl> ibilic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601210
[07:25] <jussi01> Jay-Oh-En: hmmm... wha are your system specs?
[07:25] <ubuntu> i just though i would restart and try kubuntu but it says grub error
[07:26] <ubuntu> and now i cant run windows as well
[07:26] <sub[t]rnl> !grub |ubuntu
[07:26] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:26] <jussi01> ubuntu: try the process for restoring grub after a windows install
[07:27] <ibilic> sub[t]rnl: thanks, google is wonderful :)
[07:27] <sub[t]rnl> amen
[07:28] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: AMD 64bit processor 3000+ and 1GB of RAM and 500GB HDD and ATI - Radeon - AGP - 9550
[07:28] <jussi01> Jay-Oh-En: which driver? the ati binary?
[07:29] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: Fglrx
[07:29] <ubuntu> shit
[07:29] <ubuntu> i dont get this grub stuff
[07:29] <ubuntu> so i need to burn a cd and boot it?
[07:30] <jussi01> !language
[07:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:30] <ubuntu> sorry
[07:30] <sub[t]rnl> usually, yes you need a boot media so you can then mount your partition, and fix menu.lst and grub by hand
[07:31] <ubuntu> cant you just re config them ny the linux cd i used to install ?
[07:31] <ubuntu> by*
[07:31] <sub[t]rnl> yup
[07:31] <ubuntu> how do i do that?
[07:31] <sub[t]rnl> those links should tell you
[07:31] <sub[t]rnl> boot into the live cd, then mount your root partition
[07:31] <sub[t]rnl> then repair grub
[07:31] <sub[t]rnl> then reboot with the cd out
[07:34] <Jay-Oh-En> !ohmy
[07:34] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:34] <ubuntu> how do you open a terminal
[07:34] <ubuntu> by boot disk?
[07:35] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: soooo....
[07:35] <jussi01> Jay-Oh-En: sooo... I have no idea. sorry.:(
[07:35] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: oj
[07:35] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: simpson
[07:35] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: lol
[07:36] <ibilic> how do I reset my Adept manager?
[07:36] <ibilic> it crashed
[07:37] <julian_> sudo dpkg.reconfigure -a
[07:37] <julian_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[07:38] <ibilic> thanks
[07:40] <julian_> ok
[07:41] <Sulo_Seppa> Hey guys
[07:42] <sub[t]rnl> Greetings
[07:43] <Sulo_Seppa> I just got a new laptop yesterday, it is a HP Pavilion dv9628nr, And I just burned a kubuntu 7.10 x86_64 iso, will kubuntu work properly or is it useless for me to try the install? (I don't want it to screw vista up, I use it for some things)
[07:45] <lhadji> Sulo_Seppa, you can run it off the cdrom and see how it runs :D
[07:46] <Sulo_Seppa> Well I was also wondering if it works wireless or if you still have to set all that crap up?
[07:46] <praveenm> hi, is there any way to transfer files using ANY im client to gtalk on winxp
[07:47] <ardchoille> Sulo_Seppa: Is that laptop 64bit?
[07:47] <Sulo_Seppa> yes
[07:47] <ardchoille> ok
[07:47] <lhadji> Sulo_Seppa, it wont hurt to put the cd into the laptop and load it up. Anything you do wont affect your hard drive until you install it. Who knows, maybe wireless will work on boot :D
[07:48] <olbj> quit
[07:48] <Sulo_Seppa> Oh I wish. but I've grown accustom to having to grab one of my dusty cat5's and downloading some windows driver and doing that fun process
[07:48] <AshyIsMe> hello
[07:48] <sub[t]rnl> I run vista + 64bit kubuntu on another computer just fine.  I would recommend using the vista partition resizing utility though, as I've came across errors when using anything else, like partition magic and such
[07:48] <AshyIsMe> does the iso from this link http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php  allow you to install kubuntu?
[07:48] <AshyIsMe> or is it just a bootable livecd without the hdd install script?
[07:49] <sub[t]rnl> Sulo_Seppa: soon you will see the light though, and find that the vista partition is just taking up space :p
[07:50] <Sulo_Seppa> Well, I normally just use linux only, but there are some nice things about this. I may get rid of it if I get full functionality in linux (which I doubt)
[07:50] <Sulo_Seppa> So use vista resize?
[07:50] <sub[t]rnl> yup
[07:50] <lhadji> Sulo_Seppa have you run kubuntu live off the cd on the laptop before?
[07:50] <ubuntu> i tried fixing grub but doesnt seem to be working
[07:50] <sub[t]rnl> vista doesn't like anything else touching the drives, go figure
[07:50] <Sulo_Seppa> nah, I just got done burning the iso
[07:51] <Sulo_Seppa> the dvd iso
[07:51] <yurimxpxman_> is there a command (other than ls) to display the size of a file?
[07:51] <Sulo_Seppa> dh
[07:51] <ubuntu> i had to boot from cd inorder to run linux
[07:51] <sub[t]rnl> du
[07:51] <sub[t]rnl> du -h
[07:51] <Sulo_Seppa> du? haha 1 day of vista..
[07:51] <ibilic> I typed sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a ... what the hell did I get myself into? :)
[07:52] <sub[t]rnl> ibilic: reconfiguring every package is what
[07:52] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[07:52] <jussi01> ibilic: thats only going to fix stuff...
[07:53] <ibilic> I don't get this thing... I install Kubuntu on my computer, and I just try to update everything using Adept... and it crashes... how lame is that?
[07:53] <ibilic> and then I want my USB drive to work... and I have to look up on the forums how to deal with the bug
[07:53] <ubuntu> is there any way of fixing grub while on linux
[07:53] <lhadji> Sulo_Seppa, cool. Let us know if kubuntu found all your drivers when you ran it live from the cd on your laptop :)
[07:53] <ibilic> and then the K-meny thing... again... looking up on the internet how to fix it
[07:53] <Sulo_Seppa> Okay, well partition will be easy since I have 2 HDDs (one has nothing on it yet, both 120GB), but will kubuntu set up grub right for vista? I've done dual-boot with xp, I don't know if vista is too much different.
[07:53] <ibilic> nothing seems to work the easy way!
[07:53] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: get into the grub shell via -> sudo grub
[07:54] <ubuntu> how do i do that?
[07:54] <ibilic> but I won't give up :)
[07:54] <sub[t]rnl> ibilic: good man
[07:54] <ibilic> You may need to execute the asoundconf(1) set-default-card macro.
[07:54] <ibilic> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: libc6 is broken or not fully installed
[07:55] <ibilic> what does this mean? what is libc6?
[07:55] <sub[t]rnl> its very important
[07:55] <sub[t]rnl> thats what
[07:55] <ibilic> i think this crashed Adept
[07:55] <Sulo_Seppa> okay well I am going to boot the live cd. hopefully I can connect...
[07:56] <ubuntu> sudo mount -o dev /mnt/hda1?
[07:56] <ubuntu> can i type that in when i type in alt f6?
[07:56] <ardchoille> ubuntu: You'll need a device, simply using "dev" won't do
[07:56] <ubuntu> so gimmi step by step what i should do
[07:57] <ibilic> ok so how do I fix the libc6 thing... I am reading what it is... and yes... it does seem pretty important....
[07:57] <ubuntu> easy and fast
[07:57] <sub[t]rnl> type this
[07:57] <sub[t]rnl> sudo grub
[07:57] <sub[t]rnl> do you see --> grub>
[07:57] <sub[t]rnl> a grub shell?
[07:57] <ibilic> who are you talking to?
[07:57] <ubuntu> so i press alt f2?
[07:58] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu:
[07:58] <ibilic> ok :(
[07:58] <sub[t]rnl> alt + f2, then type --> konsole
[07:58] <ubuntu> okay
[07:58] <sub[t]rnl> ok, now
[07:58] <sub[t]rnl> sudo grub
[07:58] <ubuntu> i see the shell kinsole
[07:59] <sub[t]rnl> ibilic: sudo apt-get install -f
[07:59] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: are you in the grub shell?
[07:59] <ubuntu> tetete
[07:59] <ubuntu> yeyey
[07:59] <ubuntu> i see grub>
[07:59] <ibilic> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:00] <ibilic> i guess I'll do that
[08:00] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: find /boot/grub/stage1
[08:00] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: tell me what it says
[08:01] <ubuntu> error 27: unrecognized command
[08:01] <yurimxpxman_> how can I tell ls to display ./foo/bar.txt instead of bar.txt ?
[08:01] <ardchoille> sub[t]rnl: find works in a grub shell?
[08:01] <sub[t]rnl> ardchoille: hrm I thought so
[08:02] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: just type "find" in the shell
[08:02] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: whats it say
[08:02] <ubuntu> error 15: file not found
[08:02] <sub[t]rnl> ok, so type this exactly
[08:03] <sub[t]rnl> find /boot/grub/stage1
[08:03] <ibilic> what does sudo apt-get install -f do?
[08:03] <sub[t]rnl> fix broken dependencies
[08:03] <ibilic> i am noting all these commands down for future reference :)
[08:03] <sub[t]rnl> man apt-get and a cup of coffee = good times
[08:04] <ubuntu> its giving me same error 15: file not found
[08:04] <sub[t]rnl> type here what you typed in the shell
[08:04] <ubuntu> Find /boot/grub/stagel
[08:04] <sub[t]rnl> show me what you typed
[08:05] <sub[t]rnl> ok, its stage1 not stagel ....as in stage(one)
[08:07] <ubuntu> still nothing
[08:07] <ubuntu> found
[08:07] <sub[t]rnl> show me what you typed
[08:07] <ubuntu> find /boot/grub/stagel
[08:08] <sub[t]rnl> thats not right
[08:08] <ardchoille> ubuntu: That last char is a 1 (one) not an "l"
[08:08] <ubuntu> oh
[08:08] <ubuntu> a 1?
[08:08] <ardchoille> yes
[08:08] <ubuntu> shit
[08:08] <jussi01> :)
[08:08] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[08:08] <ubuntu> i mean sorry
[08:08] <jussi01> !language
[08:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[08:09] <ubuntu> okay it says (hd0,5)
[08:10] <sub[t]rnl> there we go
[08:10] <ubuntu> and back to the grub> command
[08:10] <sub[t]rnl> good
[08:10] <sub[t]rnl> now type
[08:10] <sub[t]rnl> root (hd0,5)
[08:10] <ubuntu> okay
[08:10] <ubuntu> now its back to grub>command again
[08:11] <sub[t]rnl> now type
[08:11] <sub[t]rnl> setup (hd0)
[08:11] <ubuntu> it says checking and both are yes
[08:11] <INFOEXCLUDED> was it started yet ?
[08:11] <ubuntu> and its sccedded and done
[08:12] <ubuntu> back to the grub command
[08:12] <sub[t]rnl> succeeded, good
[08:12] <ubuntu> so now its fixed?
[08:12] <sub[t]rnl> now type quit
[08:12] <sub[t]rnl> and reboot, yeah should be fixed
[08:12] <ubuntu> thanks a million
[08:12] <ardchoille> !grub
[08:12] <ubuntu> let me try this
[08:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:12] <ubuntu> ill be back if it doesnt work be ready
[08:12] <ubuntu> lol
[08:13] <ardchoille> sub[t]rnl: You seem to be really good with the grub shell. Perhaps when you have time, you could take a look at the !grub tutorial and enhance it if possible.
[08:13] <PJC121> sub[t]rnl: will those instructions make grub 'find' a vista OS on a seperate hard drive.  Ie I installed kubuntu a while back but grub didn't pick up the vista installation
[08:13] <sub[t]rnl> ardchoille: yes sir
[08:13] <INFOEXCLUDED> how do i start ubuntu from windows boot menu ?
[08:14] <johann787> Hi, does anyone know what the default root password is after install, unable to do a sudo command
[08:14] <INFOEXCLUDED> isnt there any automatic way ?
[08:14] <johann787> no
[08:14] <ardchoille> johann787: There is no root pass, sudo uses your user passwd
[08:15] <jussi01> !root | johann787
[08:15] <ubotu> johann787: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:15] <sub[t]rnl> PJC121: using that method will only repair grub on a harddrive that has its installation files
[08:15] <johann787> I tries to use sudo but my username which I entered in the beginning is not in the sudo list
[08:15] <INFOEXCLUDED> can i had an sudusless user ?
[08:15] <PJC121> ah, I see, thank you
[08:16] <INFOEXCLUDED> johann787: its better to be on de safe side
[08:16] <INFOEXCLUDED> sudu = root acess no mater what ubuntu devs claim
[08:17] <johann787> I see , so mabye i have to reinstall in advenced mode, is there a way to choose the root password there , or is there a way to unlock the root account ?
[08:17] <INFOEXCLUDED> unlocking the root acount is easy
[08:18] <ardchoille> johann787: You won't be using or setting up a root password in any ubuntu install, sudo is used, the root account is locked.
[08:18] <INFOEXCLUDED> ive done it before
[08:18] <ardchoille> INFOEXCLUDED: That info is not recommended and not supported here
[08:18] <ibilic> is there a "Klite Codec pack" equivalent in linux?
[08:18] <Proteus> How stable is kde4 rc2? I'm thinking about trying it out
[08:18] <johann787> ok , I realy need to use the root account rather than sudo , I dont like that ;)
[08:18] <sub[t]rnl> INFOEXCLUDED: the whole point of sudo is to make a root password or account not needed, greatly increasing your box's security
[08:19] <INFOEXCLUDED> how can that increase security ?
[08:19] <ibilic> also, something that will let me browse all those websites requireing special plugins like youtube
[08:19] <ardchoille> johann787: The recommended and supported method is to use sudo, it can do anything root can do.
[08:19] <INFOEXCLUDED> havin an root acount with out password
[08:19] <sub[t]rnl> INFOEXCLUDED: no root account, no root password
[08:19] <INFOEXCLUDED> sudo = root acount with out password
[08:19] <ardchoille> INFOEXCLUDED: How do you brute force a locked root account?
[08:19] <johann787> If I try to use the sudo command the OS says that I´m not in the sudoers list. Am I locked out of the OS ?
[08:20] <INFOEXCLUDED> can linux run with out root acount ?
[08:20] <INFOEXCLUDED> never eard about it
[08:20] <INFOEXCLUDED> isnt root acount there ?
[08:20] <ardchoille> Ubuntu has a root account, it's simply locked and we use sudo for admin tasks
[08:20] <INFOEXCLUDED> sudo = root acount with out password
[08:21] <ardchoille> !sudo | INFOEXCLUDED Lots of good info here:
[08:21] <johann787> Mabye because my name has a special characters that the OS might not support ?
[08:21] <beroual> hi
[08:21] <beroual> xubunu ?
[08:21] <ubotu> INFOEXCLUDED Lots of good info here:: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:21] <beroual> bye
[08:22] <atwo1> ok so
[08:22] <atwo1> round 2
[08:22] <INFOEXCLUDED> i think sudo is a pain
[08:22] <johann787> already read it but thr sudo does not work, the user I used during installation is not in the sudoers list
[08:22] <INFOEXCLUDED> you need to type sudo every new command
[08:22] <atwo1> not always
[08:22] <atwo1> just do your commands from root
[08:22] <atwo1> sudo into terminal
[08:23] <johann787> I cant Im not in the sudoers list
[08:23] <atwo1> ardchoille: hi
[08:23] <ardchoille> hi atwo1
[08:23] <INFOEXCLUDED> cant see whats difrent betwen sudo and having an root acount with out password
[08:23] <atwo1> ardchoille: i'm reinstalling again lol
[08:23] <atwo1> clicking the autodetect for graphics card STOPPED it recognising the monitor at all
[08:24] <ardchoille> INFOEXCLUDED: There is a lot of information that explains that on the wiki page the bot linked you
[08:24] <ubuntu> i  have a 2nd problem now:(:(:(:(:
[08:24] <INFOEXCLUDED> i guess even you cant explain it
[08:24] <INFOEXCLUDED> nvm
[08:25] <INFOEXCLUDED> how can you ssh to ubuntu ?
[08:25] <johann787> Ok Ill try
[08:25] <atwo1> !ssh
[08:25] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:25] <INFOEXCLUDED> dosent ssh implies a root user ?
[08:25] <ardchoille> INFOEXCLUDED: no
[08:26] <ardchoille> INFOEXCLUDED: I have ssh access to several boxes where I am not root/admin
[08:26] <Proteus> Hi, I'm using xubuntu right now but I was thinking about trying out the new kde4 rc2 release. Could anyone give me some info about how stable it is and any problems I should expect?
[08:27] <Proteus> Should I even bother with rc2?
[08:27] <ubuntu> at the bootup screen i try running linux it says cannnot mount selected partition what does that mean?
[08:27] <atwo1> no
[08:27] <atwo1> not atm
[08:27] <pacman> can anyone give me some help with my grub?
[08:27] <atwo1> Proteus: go for 7.10
[08:27] <atwo1> unless you want to test
[08:27] <atwo1> !grub
[08:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:27] <INFOEXCLUDED> does ubuntu use something like this ? unlogable system acount aka root and just have admins with sudo access
[08:27] <atwo1> pacman: ^
[08:28] <jussi01> Proteus: I would wait if I were you
[08:28] <ubuntu> atwol your bootup screen doesnt work?
[08:28] <Proteus> jussi01, any specific reason?
[08:28] <INFOEXCLUDED> does ubuntu have spins like fedora ?
[08:28] <jussi01> Proteus: its not yet fully useable, and has a lot of bugs.
[08:28] <Proteus> jussi01, ok, thanks for the advice.
[08:28] <jussi01> Proteus: I suggest grabbing the live cd and having a look
[08:28] <atwo1> ubuntu: i'm reinstalling kubuntu now
[08:29] <ubuntu> ye cause i got help with that grub boot up setup
[08:29] <ubuntu> it works but when i try running linux it doesn work
[08:29] <ubuntu> it says cannot mount seleted partition
[08:29] <INFOEXCLUDED> i need to make a live usb variant aka poor mans instsall or frugal install to use on usb drive
[08:29] <INFOEXCLUDED> is it easy  ?
[08:30] <Proteus> jussi01, I'd just read that the qt4 switch had drastically cut the memory footprint and I got all excited, hoping I could get something pretty running on this pII system
[08:30] <INFOEXCLUDED> should i used fedroa instead ?
[08:30] <jussi01> !install | INFOEXCLUDED
[08:30] <ubotu> INFOEXCLUDED: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[08:30] <INFOEXCLUDED> i hate man pages
[08:30] <jussi01> Proteus: yeah, but I dont think its that drastic. and if you need a stable system, definately not.
[08:31] <Proteus> jussi01, right. Thanks again.
[08:31] <jussi01> Proteus: :)
[08:31] <INFOEXCLUDED> isnt it easyer to use fedora ?
[08:31] <ubuntu> aii can some one help me i cant load linux at boot up screen
[08:31] <INFOEXCLUDED> with spins ?
[08:31] <ardchoille> INFOEXCLUDED: Please take that to another channel.
[08:31] <rx_> i cant get kde4 rc2 to install on hardy. please help.
[08:31] <INFOEXCLUDED> why ?
[08:31] <atwo1> !ot
[08:31] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:31] <atwo1> oi brb
[08:31] <INFOEXCLUDED> you havent used fedora spins ?
[08:32] <atwo1> !fedora
[08:32] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[08:32] <INFOEXCLUDED> FREAKING BOOTS
[08:32] <atwo1> lawlz
[08:32] <jussi01> INFOEXCLUDED: please keep it on topic.
[08:32] <eleve> hello
[08:32] <ubuntu> yo jussi01
[08:32]  * awto1[brb] is away: brb bottle o run
[08:32] <INFOEXCLUDED> im keeping it on my topic
[08:32] <vzduch> INFOEXCLUDED: this is #kubuntu, you want to go to #fedora, /me thinks
[08:32] <ardchoille> !away > awto1[brb]
[08:33] <ubuntu> when i try booting linux it says cannot mount seletec partition what should i do ?
[08:33] <vbgunz> I have a 2 part question. I just reformatted and repartitioned an external USB disk. 1, I have no permission to write to it. 2, it's a 10GB disk, I just reformatted it, reparitioned it, why is over 600MB stated as used?
[08:33] <INFOEXCLUDED> im just asking whats the best/easy way to make drivate "distro" that uses poor mans install and can be used from usb drive
[08:34] <Jay-Oh-En> INFOEXCLUDED: if you figure it out tell me i want that too
[08:34] <ardchoille> vbgunz: Did you format it to ext3?
[08:34] <vbgunz> yeah
[08:34] <vbgunz> chown it?
[08:34] <sub[t]rnl> vbgunz: ntfs on the usb drive?
[08:34] <sub[t]rnl> oh nm
[08:34] <INFOEXCLUDED> i cant know they wont tell me
[08:35] <ardchoille> vbgunz: ext3 reserves space for the journal
[08:35] <vbgunz> I formatted the external USB drive as ext 3
[08:35] <INFOEXCLUDED> alaways with theyr distro turfing
[08:35] <vbgunz> ardchoille: yeah, 5% correct? or am I wrong?
[08:35] <ardchoille> vbgunz: I'm not exactly sure how much space
[08:36] <INFOEXCLUDED> i thought linux to biger than distros
[08:36] <vzduch> must be something like 7%
[08:36] <jussi01> INFOEXCLUDED: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[08:36] <ardchoille> vbgunz: I did notice that when I formatted my 80Gb drive, it reserved 3Gb of that space
[08:37] <INFOEXCLUDED> whats for ?
[08:37] <vbgunz> ardchoille: yeah, thats true. 600MB+ is a bit more than 5% 10GB, + 10GB isn't what it really is, probably more like 9.3GB
[08:37] <INFOEXCLUDED> swap sapce ?
[08:38] <INFOEXCLUDED> jussi01: i dont what just to install ubuntu to usb drive i need to make work from ram
[08:39] <INFOEXCLUDED> and to use HW detection like knoppis or something and install drivers automaticaly if needed
[08:40] <jussi01> INFOEXCLUDED: why do you need that? what exactly are you trying to acheive?
[08:40] <INFOEXCLUDED> and has to be smaller then 500 megas
[08:40] <INFOEXCLUDED> make a portable dektop
[08:40] <INFOEXCLUDED> desktop
[08:40] <INFOEXCLUDED> to use on a 1 gigabite usb pen
[08:40] <INFOEXCLUDED> on any computer
[08:41] <jussi01> INFOEXCLUDED: so you want to install it to a usb pen like the link is about!
[08:41] <vbgunz> INFOEXCLUDED: was thinking exactly that... would really like to make my main harddisk, my external disk, capable of booting up anywhere, and use my internal disk as a backup... I just don't have the patience to do it now :(
[08:41] <INFOEXCLUDED> it should install proprietrie driver too for gaming but do it automaticaly
[08:41] <vbgunz> whats the program to check a disk health?
[08:41] <vbgunz> I installed it and forgot the name :P
[08:43] <pacman> I'm looking for a program that you can run XP with...I can't remember the name of it
[08:43] <vbgunz> smartctl I think
[08:43] <sub[t]rnl> fsck?
[08:43] <jussi01> pacman: vmware
[08:43] <vbgunz> pacman: a virtual machine? virtualbox?
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[08:45] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> hey sebastian^
[08:47] <INFOEXCLUDED> cant ghrub boot an .iso file ?
[08:47] <INFOEXCLUDED> cant grub boot an .iso file ?
[08:47] <INFOEXCLUDED> that would be a nice feature to had to grub
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> INFOEXCLUDED, not sure, let me google
[08:48] <pacman> I'm getting an error message while downloading vmware
[08:48] <ardchoille> pacman: What is the error?
[08:49] <pacman> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[08:49] <INFOEXCLUDED> pacman: i dont have anything to do with that
[08:50]  * awto1[brb] is back from brb bottle o run [duration: 17mins 22secs]
[08:50] <awto1[brb]> i got that pm
[08:50] <awto1[brb]> but once the away goes on it had to come off, won't do it again
[08:50] <vzduch> INFOEXCLUDED: you're not the only one in here looking for help..
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> INFOEXCLUDED, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-170530.html
[08:50] <spitfire> hi all, i was wondering, im trying to install flashplayer to watch youtube
[08:50] <spitfire> but apt-get dosnt have it
[08:51] <spitfire> is there another name for it?
[08:51] <vzduch> !flash | spitfire
[08:51] <ubotu> spitfire: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> !flash9 | spitfire
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> spitfire, go to www.adobe.com and download it and follow the instructions
[08:52] <vzduch> ActionParsnip: for Feisty there was a pkg.. isn't that available any more for Gutsy?
[08:52] <ardchoille> spitfire: It's best to stick with the package manager to handle software when possible so you will get updates and bug fixes automatically
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> vzduch, ive always just copied the .so file to my plugins dir. Never saw the point of a package
[08:53] <spitfire> aha ok thanks for the info
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> oi oi SatManUK
[08:54] <SatManUK> hello
[08:54] <SatManUK> ActionParsnip: do you know how to remove US english from OpenOffice
[08:54] <SatManUK> I changed all the dictionaries to UK English default
[08:55] <SatManUK> but it still uses to autocheck in usa english
[08:55] <atwo1> !nvidia
[08:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:56] <SatManUK> !ping
[08:56] <ubotu> pong
[08:56] <atwo1> i got to try to fix this bs problem again
[08:56] <SatManUK> ActionParsnip: ping me please..
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> SatManUK, http://homepage.ntlworld.com/garryknight/linux/oodict.html
[08:56] <SatManUK> channel synchronised in 55 seconds says im lagging bad
[08:56] <atwo1> !ping satmanuk
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping satmanuk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> SatManUK, Looks pretty decent
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> SatManUK, 237ms
[08:57] <spitfire> Download done.
[08:57] <spitfire> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[08:57] <spitfire> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[08:58] <SatManUK> 237 ms hmm.. 2.3 seconds guess thats ok..
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> spitfire, did you extract the files from the tar.gz?
[08:58] <spitfire> :S to tell you the truth i cant find where they got downloaded
[08:59] <atwo1> what do i add the nameserver to again
[08:59] <atwo1> and how do i do that
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> spitfire, then redownload to somewhere you know it is
[08:59] <sub[t]rnl> atwo1: /etc/resolv.conf
[08:59] <sub[t]rnl> open it with kate, or another editor
[09:00] <tuxwulf_> So... How to prevent my network settigns from changing automatically?
[09:00] <sub[t]rnl> tuxwulf_: you'll need to edit your /etc/network/interfaces
[09:00] <tuxwulf_> sub[t]rnl: I can not do so with ifconfig on the fly any more?
[09:01] <sub[t]rnl> not sure
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> spitfire, then sudo cp the .so file to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[09:01] <sub[t]rnl> not if you want it static
[09:01] <atwo1> ok
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> spitfire, then restart your browser
[09:01] <atwo1> sub[t]rnl: thanks my net works now
[09:03] <atwo1> ok
[09:03] <tuxwulf_> Gee...... that bums me out... all that automatic stuff is for MS users...
[09:03] <atwo1> im getting this issue where the screen is pushed accross from the left side by about 200px (this is in the native res)
[09:04] <atwo1> im enablding the nvidia thing in restricted drivers
[09:04] <sub[t]rnl> tuxwulf_: ifconfig'ing an ip up will only be temporary anyway, when you restart networking it gets read from /etc/network/interfaces
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> atwo1, you could use your monitor controls :D
[09:04] <atwo1> last time i did this on restart it didnt detect the screen at all once it was loaded up
[09:04] <atwo1> ActionParsnip: that doesn't work
[09:04] <atwo1> anywhere near where its meant to
[09:04] <tuxwulf_> sub[t]rnl:  Yes, but I want to be able to change it onnnnnnnne fly
[09:04] <sub[t]rnl> tuxwulf_: then ifconfig your little heart out bro :D
[09:05] <tuxwulf_> sub[t]rnl: ... Yes... I think you do not understand what my issue is...
[09:05] <atwo1> ok it's enabled, now if i restatr and it doesn't detect it, i have to reinstall kubuntu
[09:05] <atwo1> again
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> atwo1, do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:06] <atwo1> wait its restarting
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> atwo1, so you have the latest
[09:06] <atwo1> GREAT
[09:06] <atwo1> it says 'no signal' and i can't see anything on the desktop
[09:06] <sub[t]rnl> tuxwulf_: heh, you can set a static ip with ifconfig, but when you restart the network, it will not hold.  Adding the ip's to your interface file will keep.  No, you can't do it on the fly
[09:06] <tuxwulf_> My eth0 gets an IP by DHCP. But, I want to hang my computer directly in the internet with one of my fixed addresses, just for a moment. So I use ifconfig to reconfigure the eth0. But the moment I plug in the public cable, my eth0 is downed, and the settings deleted.
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> atwo1, ok then boot to your live cd, mount your drive and copy back your original xorg.conf
[09:06] <atwo1> ok here's one for u
[09:07] <tuxwulf_> In 7.04 this was no problem, but in 7.10 ... no way.
[09:07] <llutz> tuxwulf_: you need to stop networkmanager handling your device
[09:07] <atwo1> it loads to a blank black screen where i can enter text (it starts down half way on the scvreen) and nothnig else can be done
[09:07] <atwo1> its plain text, pressing enter just enters to the next line
[09:07] <atwo1> wtf
[09:07] <tuxwulf_> liutz! Ah! Okay.
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> atwo1, can you type startx
[09:07] <atwo1> yes
[09:07] <atwo1> and it does nothing
[09:07] <atwo1> its just a black screen
[09:07] <atwo1> that will accept text
[09:08] <atwo1> and do nothnig with it
[09:08] <spitfire> ActionParsnip: can you give me the proper sudo cp ... i dont know the format in which i can write it
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> atwo1, boot to yourlive cd and get your old xorg.conf file back
[09:08] <atwo1> ok brb
[09:08] <atwo1> will need help doing what u suggested
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> atwo1, id try a cold reboot too
[09:08] <atwo1> i reinstalled the whole thing last time
[09:08] <atwo1> yeah
[09:08] <atwo1> it just
[09:08] <tuxwulf_> liutz > Nope, same thing happens....
[09:09] <atwo1> loads up the screen with 'kubuntu' and the blue bar fillnig up
[09:09] <atwo1> then it gets further on and the monitor msg comes up 'no signal'
[09:09] <atwo1> and it loads that black screen
[09:10] <atwo1> rebooting done nothing
[09:10] <atwo1> loading with disc now
[09:10] <atwo1> oh snap
[09:10] <atwo1> when it says 'start or install kubuntu'
[09:10] <atwo1> oh wait nm
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> atwo1, did you backup your original xorg.conf?
[09:12] <atwo1> no
[09:12] <atwo1> it was a fresh install
[09:13] <vbgunz> anyone know how to effectively test a hard drives health? I cannot do anything with smartctl :(
[09:13] <martin_> hello
[09:13] <atwo1> martin_: hello
[09:13] <martin_> its my first time
[09:13] <atwo1> ActionParsnip: how do i copy the x from disc to hdd with k on it
[09:14] <atwo1> martin_: lolz having fun?
[09:15] <atwo1> ActionParsnip: how do i copy the x.org from disc to hdd with k on it
[09:16] <martin_> dont know yet
[09:16] <martin_> looks nice
[09:17] <sigma_> whats the easiest way to setup the tv out on a nvidia 6600gt? i have the glx drivers installed and they are working
[09:17] <sigma_> but it reports a modeline error whenever i try switching to the tv
[09:19] <atwo1> someone tell me if i have kubuntu installed on the pc, and i boot from the cd how do i copy the x.org from the cd to the hdd of the computer it's loaded on?
[09:19] <spitfire> frustration...
[09:20] <tuxwulf_> How do I make K3b use a blank DVD to burn a CD image?
[09:20] <spitfire> when i do the sudo cp the file i want to copy is in 'home/install...../libflashplayer.so
[09:21] <spitfire> it says no directory found
[09:22] <vzduch> spitfire: if that makes it easier for you, change to the dir where the file is
[09:25] <atwo1> if i have kubuntu installed on the pc, and i boot from the cd how do i copy the x.org from the cd to the hdd of the computer it's loaded on?
[09:25] <etfb> I hope this isn't so stupid that I'm appointed Idiot of the Week, but...  I uninstalled knetworkmanager.  Now I can't reinstall because (surprise, surprise) I don't have a network connection.  Can anyone suggest a solution that doesn't involve reinstalling?
[09:27] <spitfire> vzduch: even with that its not working
[09:28] <spitfire> check out the format please
[09:28] <spitfire> sudo cp ./home/spitfire/desktop/install_flash_player_9_linux/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[09:28] <etfb> atwol: don't quite understand.  Is x.org a file on your CD, or do you mean the entire xorg (ie XWindows) system?
[09:28] <vzduch> the dot before '/home' is wrong
[09:29] <spitfire> vzduch: /home/spitfire/desktop/install_flash_player_9_linux/libflashplayer.so': No such file or directory
[09:29] <johann787> what is the baest way to upgrade ubuntu or install new packges, is it with the awget command ?
[09:29] <ardchoille> spitfire: Desktop, not desktop
[09:30] <etfb> johann787: definitely with apt-get, or its GUI equivalent aptitude.
[09:30] <johann787> ok thanks
[09:30] <ardchoille> spitfire: And, fwiw, mine is at:  /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[09:30] <ardchoille> spitfire: But I installed from the repos
[09:30] <etfb> johann787: also check out the Add and Remove Programs option in your menu
[09:31] <spitfire> PRAISE THE LORD ... finally all because of the capital D
[09:31] <spitfire> thank guys
[09:31] <etfb> spitfire: unix is case sensitive, because it makes it easier to cause people pain.  (Come on, you know that's the only explanation that fits the facts.)
[09:31] <johann787> how about CPAN is it configured or do I have to configure something ?
[09:31] <atwo1> if i have kubuntu installed on the pc, and i boot from the cd how do i copy the x.org from the cd to the hdd of the computer it's loaded on?
[09:31] <atwo1> i mean that
[09:31] <atwo1> whatever that main file is
[09:32] <atwo1> i changed some settnig and i want to just replace whatever the main file is on the hdd as whats on the cd
[09:32] <atwo1> its a fresh install
[09:32] <atwo1> and the graphics driver getting enabled in 'restricted drivers' kills it
[09:32] <atwo1> so it doesnt even recognise the screen is there
[09:33] <etfb> atwo1: gotcha!  I suggest booting to a text login (Alt+F1 will let you do that if you're not there already) and then use the dpkg-reconfigure command.  Let me check the syntax...
[09:33] <atwo1> it was a fresh install, all i did was what the thing suggests
[09:33] <atwo1> !nvidia
[09:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:33] <atwo1> and enable the nvidia thing in restricted drivers
[09:34] <atwo1> but it kills eveyrthing
[09:34] <etfb> atwo1: I don't trust those restricted drivers.  I think they're the reason I don't have wifi any more...
[09:34] <atwo1> well whatever it was it totally fkd my system
[09:35] <etfb> johann787: not sure about CPAN.  IF you have Perl installed, presumably it includes packages for handling CPAN.  Check the FAQs on their website.
[09:35] <atwo1> but i can't get the native res to work without a big 200px blank spot on the left side
[09:35] <atwo1> squishing the screen over
[09:35] <atwo1> look im ready to just reinstall the whole OS atm
[09:35] <atwo1> for the 2nd time thnis afternoon
[09:35] <etfb> google for "xorg.conf" and the numbers of your resolution, eg 1280 800 or whatever
[09:35] <etfb> That's how I fixed that problem.
[09:36] <etfb> Don't recall the details now, but... there is no god but Google!
[09:36] <atwo1> anyway
[09:36] <atwo1> how do i reinstall x.org
[09:36] <atwo1> or whatever
[09:36] <atwo1> someone said mount the drive
[09:36] <atwo1> and copy it from the disc to it
[09:36] <atwo1> or something
[09:36] <atwo1> im totally noob i just got gutsy this week
[09:36] <atwo1> and have never used linux before
[09:36] <etfb> atwo1: the CD should automount in Ubuntu, so ignore that advice.  I'm checking the reconfig syntax now...
[09:38] <etfb> atwo1: try doing this from a konsole: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:38] <atwo1> but its loaded on the disc at the moment
[09:38] <etfb> Choose the defaults, except for the driver that stuffed up (pick vesa instead for that, perhaps)
[09:39] <atwo1> but its loaded on the disc at the moment i can't get onto the hdd its installed on
[09:39] <etfb> atwo1: ??? I'm exhausted after a long week and really not following you.  Can you rephrase that for my tired brain?
[09:39] <Sulo_Seppa> Well, that's nice. First off, the live dvd didn't work for graphics unless I put noapic and other stuff, and second, it didn't have the wireless drivers.. I thought that kinda stuff was added in 7.10.   Mind you, it's mostly self-inflicted in my case...
[09:40] <atwo1> i installed kubuntu, the res is completely rooted in native. it's meant to be 1440x900 but using that forces the left edge of the screen inwards horizontally by about 200px. i enter the restricted drivers and turn on the nvidia detection and on restart it screws everything
[09:40] <atwo1> im abuot to reinstall
[09:42] <Sulo_Seppa> etfb: how so?
[09:42] <etfb> atwo1: what happens if you press Ctrl+Alt+F1?  (press Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to the X window if necessary)
[09:42] <atwo1> from what
[09:42] <atwo1> when i restart the screen comes to a blank black screen
[09:42] <atwo1> but i can type in text
[09:42] <atwo1> that does nothing
[09:42] <Sulo_Seppa> And I can get wifi working pretty easily, so why the _hell_ is it not included in ubuntu?
[09:43] <etfb> Sulo_Seppa: I uninstalled knetworkmanager and can't get it back.  Wifi is included, but your installation may have stuffed up.
[09:43] <etfb> atwo1: just try it from there.  Either it does something or it doesn't.
[09:43] <atwo1> oi
[09:43] <atwo1> that screen u told me to go to
[09:43] <atwo1> the ctrl alt f1
[09:43] <atwo1> thats what the screen looks like when i reboot after the above changes
[09:44] <atwo1> can i use a shortcut there to make somethnig happen
[09:44] <etfb> Press enter and see if you get a login prompt
[09:44] <Sulo_Seppa> What?   Thank Google!    It _should_ fix all your problems.
[09:48] <atwo1> all i did
[09:48] <atwo1> i installed kubuntu, the res is completely rooted in native. it's meant to be 1440x900 but using that forces the left edge of the screen inwards horizontally by about 200px. i enter the restricted drivers and turn on the nvidia detection and on restart it screws everything
[09:48] <atwo1> then
[09:48] <atwo1> i get this blank screen
[09:48] <atwo1> i ctrl alt f2
[09:48] <atwo1> and login
[09:48] <atwo1> type startx
[09:48] <atwo1> and get what i just said
[09:49] <Sulo_Seppa> oh
[09:49] <Sulo_Seppa> okay
[09:49] <Sulo_Seppa> well do you know how to use vim?
[09:49] <atwo1> i dont know anything i've had a linux system for 2 days
[09:49] <atwo1> and its given me shit the whole time
[09:49] <Sulo_Seppa> okay then use nano
[09:49] <atwo1> use what
[09:49] <Sulo_Seppa> let  me try and explain..
[09:49] <atwo1> im in some black screen
[09:49] <atwo1> how do i get to desktop
[09:49] <Sulo_Seppa> okay, in the terminal type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:50] <atwo1> now what
[09:50] <Sulo_Seppa> Go down do where you see something like Device "nVidia" and change it to nv
[09:50] <atwo1> it says
[09:50] <llutz> Sulo_Seppa: "Driver" "nvidia"  not Device
[09:50] <atwo1> Device 'nvidia coporation nv24 [ngeforece fx 5500]
[09:50] <atwo1> which is my card
[09:51] <etfb> (I'll leave you two to it, since you're probably on the way now.  I'm popping over to #ubuntu to see if anyone there can help me...)
[09:51] <Sulo_Seppa> okay
[09:51] <atwo1> under what part is that
[09:51] <Sulo_Seppa> 1sec
[09:52] <llutz> Section "Device"
[09:52] <llutz>  "Driver" "nvidia"
[09:52] <llutz> change into "Driver" "nv"
[09:52] <Sulo_Seppa> yeah
[09:52] <atwo1> how do i save it
[09:53] <Sulo_Seppa> alt-x to exit then it asks to save I think
[09:53] <atwo1> no that made help mode disabled
[09:53] <Sulo_Seppa> ctrl-x
[09:53] <atwo1> ok
[09:53] <atwo1> saved
[09:53] <atwo1> and i typed startx
[09:53] <vbgunz> when partitioning a disk, isn't there a way to say *not* to automatically allocate 6% of the drive or something? I just formatted a 80GB hard disk, I got 75 out of it. with kubuntu insisting on taking 6% of space, I now only have 71GB of space... anyone know how to resize that 6%?
[09:53] <atwo1> it's not 6%
[09:54] <atwo1> finally, desktop is loaded
[09:54] <vbgunz> my system backup is 73GB, I cannot trim it anymore :(
[09:54] <StevenR> vbgunz: 80GB? 80GiB ?
[09:54] <Sulo_Seppa> You want to remove the tables? good luck with that lol
[09:54] <waltercool_eee> exist a method for know the cpu temp??
[09:54] <sub[t]rnl>  /quit
[09:55] <StevenR> waltercool_eee: lm_sensors
[09:55] <sub[t]rnl> woops
[09:55] <Sulo_Seppa> acpi -P
[09:55] <atwo1> ok
[09:55] <atwo1> Sulo_Seppa: now my res is screwed how can i fix it without that restricted driver
[09:55] <llutz> vbgunz: ext3? use tune2fs
[09:55] <waltercool_eee> StevenR: but i /proc?
[09:55] <Sulo_Seppa> Without the driver? I dunno
[09:55] <atwo1> how can i force 1440x900 cover the whole scvreen instead of squishing the left side inwards by 200px
[09:56] <waltercool_eee> in
[09:56] <vbgunz> StevenR: it's pitched as an 80GB hard drive, looking at the label, it says 82.3GB. after formatting, the total size is 75GB, Kubuntu is taking up 6% and its leaving me with 71GB. my backup is 73GB :(
[09:56] <Sulo_Seppa> waltercool_eee: acpi -P
[09:56] <Sulo_Seppa> atwo1: Well..
[09:57] <atwo1> its in native res now
[09:57] <atwo1> but the left is shoved over
[09:57] <waltercool_eee> Sulo_Seppa: Wow... thanks!! :P
[09:57] <Sulo_Seppa> atwo1: if you really want to, then edit that xorg.conf file again and add the resolution you want with all of the other ones. it should be pretty obvious, but make sure to back it up
[09:57] <llutz> vbgunz: man  tune2fs (-m)
[09:57] <atwo1> its in the native res, it pushes the left side over for some reason
[09:57] <atwo1> its covernig 15% of the screen as a thicxk vertical black strip
[09:57] <Sulo_Seppa> Oh
[09:58] <atwo1> oi
[09:58] <atwo1> ok
[09:58] <atwo1> i typed
[09:58] <atwo1> alt ctrl backspc
[09:58] <atwo1> it does
[09:58] <Sulo_Seppa> Heh
[09:58] <atwo1> xinit: connection to x server lost
[09:58] <atwo1> then a prompt
[09:58] <atwo1> then i have to type startx
[09:58] <atwo1> man im reinstalling
[09:58] <Sulo_Seppa> ctrl+alt+backspace logs you out
[09:58] <atwo1> and just not using that shit restricted thing
[09:59] <atwo1> it jstu kills it
[09:59] <vbgunz> llutz: without a walkthrough, that man will take me quite a while to understand :( do you know of a walkthrough using tune2fs that addresses the 6% issue?
[09:59] <StevenR> vbgunz: what is this 6% ?
[09:59] <vbgunz> I found one once, I never thought I would need it. now I want to take a backup off site and am 2GB greater than the target :(
[09:59] <llutz> vbgunz: set it to 2%: sudo  tune2fs -m 2 /dev/sdXY
[10:00] <vbgunz> llutz: I'll try
[10:00] <vbgunz> let me check man on -m
[10:01] <Sulo_Seppa> atwo1: reinstalling ubuntu?
[10:01] <llutz> <- not resonsible for data-loss
[10:01] <atwo1> kubuntu
[10:01] <atwo1> yes
[10:01] <vbgunz> reserved-blocks-percentage, default is 5%... konqueror reported it as 6%
[10:01] <atwo1> god i can't believe its so easy to completely screw this kubuntu os
[10:01] <Sulo_Seppa> atwo1: if you want you can go with arch :p
[10:01] <atwo1> all i do is tick 1 box and it doesn't even load
[10:01] <llutz> vbgunz: they may have used a different value when creating the fs
[10:01] <atwo1> it can't even snap the res to the size of the monitor
[10:01] <atwo1> why am i even bothering with it
[10:02] <atwo1> stressing and trying to figure it out when it can't even work out what res to use correctly when it's already turned on
[10:02] <atwo1> w t f
[10:02] <spitfire> hi all, is there DVD player ready with all the plugins, i cant play DVD's
[10:02] <ardchoille> !wtf | atwo1
[10:02] <ubotu> atwo1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:02] <atwo1> sigh
[10:02] <atwo1> ardchoille: do u just watch the channel all day waiting for someone to swear
[10:02] <vbgunz> llutz: one quetion, /dev/sdc OR /dev/sdc1?
[10:02] <atwo1> so you can enter triggers
[10:03] <Sulo_Seppa> spitfire: get mplayer and the dvd restricted stuff
[10:03] <llutz> vbgunz: sdc1, partition not coplete disk
[10:03] <llutz> +m
[10:03] <spitfire> i read it on the internet, but i didnt understand how to go about it
[10:03] <vbgunz> llutz: well, the disk is fresh, no problem wrecking it :)
[10:03] <vbgunz> I'll try
[10:03] <llutz> spitfire: add medibuntu-repo and install libdvdcss2
[10:03] <johann787> Hi, I reinstalled ubuntur with the user tester and password tester but I´m unable to do a sudo , Im thinking of going to another OS this sucks, is there anyway I can bypass this ????
[10:04] <spitfire> llutz: can i use apt-get for both?
[10:04] <johann787> the user tester is not in the sudoers list , this insident wil be repoted , and the I get a sendmail error
[10:04] <llutz> spitfire: not to add the repo
[10:04] <Sulo_Seppa> spitfire: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#CD.2FDVD
[10:06] <johann787> I´m using the server version of ubuntu
[10:06] <spitfire> llutz:
[10:06] <spitfire> E: Type '“deb' is not known on line 78 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:06] <spitfire> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:06] <spitfire> :S
[10:06] <spitfire> Sulo_Seppa: sorry that was for you
[10:07] <vbgunz> llutz: very sweet!
[10:07] <llutz> spitfire: "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free" <- entry
[10:07] <llutz> vbgunz: did it work?
[10:07] <vbgunz> 74.5GB, not I can squeeze 73 in just fine and take it off site :)
[10:07] <vbgunz> s/not/now
[10:07] <vbgunz> llutz: excellent tip, plenty thanks!
[10:07] <llutz> welcome
[10:08] <jilws> hi
[10:08] <spitfire> sigh, watever man, i have no idea whats going on, thanks anyway
[10:08] <llutz> vbgunz: xmas coming soon, time for new, bigger HDDs
[10:09] <jilws> care  to chat
[10:09] <vzduch> spitfire: syntax error.. did you paste the "" as well?
[10:09] <vzduch> these have nothing to do in there
[10:10] <spitfire> llutz: someone told me to do this echo deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt dapper main | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <jilws> guy
[10:10] <jilws> guyz
[10:10] <spitfire> i did it, but nothing happened
[10:10] <llutz> bah no automatix!
[10:10] <ardchoille> spitfire: Please do not use automatix
[10:10] <spitfire> wow ok
[10:10] <spitfire> lol
[10:10] <ardchoille> !automatix
[10:10] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[10:11] <vbgunz> llutz: I have over 600GB in the box, 71GB is ill recoverable if something bad happened
[10:11] <llutz> spitfire: you are still on dapper?
[10:11] <spitfire> ok  i wont, but when i look at the list that you showed me, i didnt understand ****
[10:11] <ardchoille> spitfire: Please make sure automatix is not in your sources.list
[10:11] <hagabaka> has flash player stopped working for anyone?
[10:11] <hagabaka> in konqueror
[10:11] <llutz> spitfire: paste your sources.list to pastebin please
[10:11] <spitfire> so wait... i open konsole
[10:11] <llutz> !pastebin
[10:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:12] <tt_> hi
[10:12] <jilws> hi tt
[10:12] <tt_> anyone could tell me how to set gcc flags?
[10:12] <atwo1> !gcc
[10:12] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[10:12] <tt_> lol thats not my answer but thanks ;)
[10:12] <atwo1> heh
[10:13] <atwo1> !gccflags
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gccflags - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <atwo1> lulx
[10:13] <jilws> what up
[10:13] <tt_> i was trying to find the file make.conf (like in gentoo) so i have onnly to set flags their and it do the rest for me
[10:13] <tt_> but it seems like i cant  find it in kubuntu
[10:13] <johann787> anyone know why I get the sudo error after install ?
[10:14] <tt_> sudo error?
[10:14] <jilws> anyone have nba live 2008?
[10:14] <jrsims> How can I get my terminal to be transparent?
[10:14] <jrsims> and is there a compositor for kde?
[10:14] <tt_> go to system  -> Admin -> Users and reset your password by ur hand
[10:14] <johann787> sudo passwd root -> Error: the user tester is not on the sudoers list, even if he is in the adm group
[10:14] <jrsims> I like drop shadows behind my windows
[10:14] <ardchoille> jilws: This is a support channel for kubuntu. You are welcome to join #kubuntu-offtopic for off-topic chat :)
[10:15] <ianJ> you would need to use the rescue disk and groups id test the user and groupadd for that user
[10:15] <johann787> tt_: I´m not in graphical mode
[10:15] <tt_> oh
[10:15] <jilws> can ask?
[10:15] <tt_> too bad , i dont use shell/bash commands too much :S , so i cant help you in this
[10:16] <tt_> but its somethings in the users mangrs (as i guess)
[10:16] <stupidDood> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48182/
[10:16] <johann787> tt_: do you know how to start the x mode ?
[10:16] <jilws> how can i install ah windows office in kubuntu
[10:16] <tt_> startx  , gdm or somethings
[10:16] <johann787> tt_: ok thx
[10:16] <tt_> np :) (i hope its correct)
[10:17] <ardchoille> stupidDood: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please?
[10:17] <llutz> stupidDood: your actual sources.list pls
[10:17] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[10:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:17] <Frieza> hello adept had a crash and is read only how to fix?
[10:17] <ardchoille> stupidDood: Good thing you misspelled automatix :)
[10:18] <ardchoille> !adeptfix | Frieza
[10:18] <ubotu> Frieza: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:19] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i create a PDF
[10:19] <stupidDood> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48183/
[10:20] <sub[t]rnl> Jay-Oh-En: open office can make them
[10:20] <Jay-Oh-En> k then ill try
[10:20] <llutz> stupidDood:  make the end looking like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48184/
[10:20] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i installl open office?
[10:20] <Frieza> and how can you clean the kubuntu installation ? because i only have 300 mb over from the 4 gb
[10:20] <Jay-Oh-En> sub[t]rnl: my open office got deleted
[10:21] <Jay-Oh-En> :[
[10:21] <llutz> stupidDood: delete the two automatix-lines, and add the medibuntu
[10:21] <ardchoille> stupidDood: You're also going to need to add the repo key if you plan to use the medibuntu repo
[10:22] <ardchoille> !medibuntu | stupidDood
[10:22] <ubotu> stupidDood: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[10:22] <sirjoshimus> how do you read a .lit file?
[10:23] <llutz> sirjoshimus: ask microsoft ;)
[10:23] <sub[t]rnl> Frieza: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean might help a bit
[10:24] <sirjoshimus> llutz: i got a bunch of ebooks and don't know how to open them
[10:24] <stupidDood> llutz: its not saving after i add the file in the source list
[10:24] <sirjoshimus> llutz: i felt m$ was the culpit, by gad
[10:24] <llutz> sirjoshimus: its a proprietary ms-format
[10:24] <stupidDood> line not file sorry
[10:25] <sirjoshimus> llutz: i see
[10:25] <llutz> sirjoshimus: google convertlit
[10:25] <sirjoshimus> llutz: openoffice and kwrite wont read them
[10:25] <atwo1> man
[10:25] <atwo1> this OS
[10:25] <atwo1> kubuntu
[10:25] <atwo1> i've reinstalled like 3 times already
[10:25] <atwo1> i have no idea why people use it
[10:25] <sirjoshimus> atwo1: whats your boggle
[10:25] <llutz> stupidDood: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list   then change the file and save, you need root-rights
[10:26] <atwo1> a simple operation of setting the resolution to be native and not have a 200px black gap on the left side that squashes the screen over
[10:27] <Jay-Oh-En> i just installed open office and now it looks ugly
[10:28] <atwo1> hi jon
[10:28] <llutz> ugly as hell or ugly as gtk?
[10:28] <Jay-Oh-En> atwo1: lol
[10:28] <Jay-Oh-En> llutz: like its grey and big fonts
[10:29] <sirjoshimus> atwo1: press the auto button on your monitor
[10:29] <atwo1> it doesn't work its some other issue
[10:29] <stupidDood> llutz: done that
[10:29] <sirjoshimus> atwo1: then my sympathies
[10:29] <sirjoshimus> atwo1: what OS were you using before kubuntu
[10:29] <llutz> stupidDood: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 libdvdread3
[10:30] <atwo1> windows on this box
[10:30] <atwo1> xp
[10:30] <ardchoille> stupidDood: Did you add the medibuntu repo key like i suggested?
[10:30] <atwo1> but kub is installing on ther now
[10:30] <atwo1> im reinstalling
[10:30] <stupidDood> llutz: shall i install without verification or with
[10:31] <llutz> stupidDood: without or add the repo-key before like ardchoille suggested
[10:31] <ardchoille> stupidDood: Adding the medibuntu key will fix that verification problem ;)
[10:31] <sirjoshimus> atwo1: so you're saying its just the black space that happens?
[10:31] <llutz> ardchoille: he ignores you :)
[10:31] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[10:31] <sirjoshimus> and your monitor auto center isnt working?
[10:32] <ardchoille> llutz: Ah, ok
[10:32] <stupidDood> llutz: ok now what?
[10:32] <Jay-Oh-En> this is the problem im having http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93286 but it doesnt state the fix
[10:33] <llutz> stupidDood: installation completed?
[10:33] <stupidDood> Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[10:33] <stupidDood> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[10:33] <stupidDood> spitfire@Sonic:~$
[10:33] <stupidDood> llutz: i guess
[10:35] <sirjoshimus> llutz: thanks for the help, im converting them
[10:36] <llutz> fine, play dvds and add that fr...ng repo key as described on www.medibuntu.org
[10:37] <llutz> stupidDood: ^^
[10:38] <llutz> stupidDood: wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[10:39] <Jay-Oh-En> this is the problem im having http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93286 but it doesnt state the fix
[10:40]  * stupidDood is crying, done all that and still wont play DVD's
[10:40] <llutz> stupidDood: which app, kaffeine?
[10:41] <stupidDood> yea
[10:41] <stupidDood> llutz: says no plugin to handle this something something
[10:41] <llutz> !dvd
[10:41] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:43] <atwo1> oi
[10:43] <atwo1> where is that resolv.conf thing
[10:44] <atwo1> ?
[10:44] <atwo1> kdesu kate somethinsomethnig/resolv.conf
[10:45] <atwo1> ??????¿????
[10:46] <atwo1> anyone
[10:48] <atwo1> PLZ SOMEONE
[10:49] <atwo1> where is resolv.conf i have to add a nameserevr in it
[10:51] <atwo1> never mind
[10:51] <atwo1> i found itttttttt
[10:56] <poison--> morning guys
[10:56] <atwo1> N\/h
[10:56] <atwo1> hi*
[10:56] <Jay-Oh-En> this is the problem im having http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93286 but it doesnt state the fix
[10:58] <atwo1> oi
[10:58] <atwo1> [08:56pm] <atwo1> N\/h
[10:58] <atwo1> [08:56pm] <atwo1> hi*
[10:58] <atwo1> LOL
[10:58] <Jay-Oh-En> wow where do you live
[10:58] <Jay-Oh-En> its 2:56 in the morning here
[10:58] <romunov> noon here
[10:58] <atwo1> australia
[10:59] <Jay-Oh-En> dang
[10:59] <Jay-Oh-En> i live in las vegas
[10:59] <atwo1> omfg
[10:59] <atwo1> do u gamble constantly
[10:59] <romunov> i'm from europe :>
[10:59] <Jay-Oh-En> no
[10:59] <atwo1> oi
[10:59] <atwo1> are u near hungary
[10:59] <romunov> werent there some school shootings in vegas recently?
[10:59] <atwo1> i want a hungarian wife
[10:59] <romunov> neighboring country, as a matter of fact
[10:59] <Jay-Oh-En> romunov: yes
[10:59] <atwo1> they're all so fkin delicious
[10:59] <romunov> brides.hu? :>
[11:00] <atwo1> LOl
[11:00] <Jay-Oh-En> brides.ru
[11:00] <romunov> women are the same no matter where you go
[11:00] <romunov> oh, except japan.. i hear
[11:00] <Jay-Oh-En> omfg japanies girls are bomb
[11:00] <atwo1> no
[11:00] <atwo1> wait
[11:00] <atwo1> hungary
[11:00] <Jay-Oh-En> omfg "Japanese" girls are bomb
[11:00] <atwo1> have u seen sophie moone
[11:00] <romunov> i was thinking in terms of a different culture
[11:00] <atwo1> and sandy whatstername
[11:00] <atwo1> wait up wait up
[11:01] <atwo1> hungary > *
[11:01] <atwo1> i'm <i>hungary</i> for those girls LUL
[11:01] <romunov> and how old are you?
[11:01] <Jay-Oh-En> mexico = dirt
[11:01] <atwo1> mexico
[11:01] <atwo1> = how chicks with black hair and tanned skin
[11:01] <Jay-Oh-En> africa = dirt/AIDs
[11:02] <romunov> and i'm telling you, they're all the same
[11:02] <Riddell> atwo1, Jay-Oh-En: lets stop this now
[11:02] <romunov> everywhere they want half :>
[11:02] <Jay-Oh-En> ok
[11:02] <romunov> (reminiscent of eddy murphy's standup gig)
[11:02] <Jay-Oh-En> sorry Riddell :D
[11:03] <poison--> !offtopic
[11:03] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:03] <atwo1> ease up
[11:03] <atwo1> it was a 5 second deviation
[11:03] <atwo1> :>
[11:03] <atwo1> god
[11:03] <atwo1> im so drunk/smashed already
[11:03] <atwo1> it's been such along week
[11:03] <atwo1> im sick of working
[11:03] <atwo1> wait
[11:03] <atwo1> lets go
[11:03] <atwo1> !ot
[11:03] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!