[07:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mrgingham (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.20-4build1 => 1.20-5] (no packageset) (sync)
[07:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mrgingham [sync] (jammy-proposed) [1.20-5]
[08:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: bambam (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.1.2+dfsg-1 => 1.1.2+dfsg-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[08:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted bambam [sync] (jammy-proposed) [1.1.2+dfsg-3]
[09:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mini-buildd [sync] (jammy-proposed) [1.0.49]
[09:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mini-buildd [sync] (jammy-proposed) [1.9.99]
[09:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-dev-tools (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.188 => 0.188ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[09:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-dev-tools [source] (jammy-proposed) [0.188ubuntu1]
[09:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mini-buildd [amd64] (jammy-proposed/none) [1.9.99] (no packageset)
[09:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mini-buildd [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [1.9.99]
[11:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mypy (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.931-1build1 => 0.942-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[11:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mypy [sync] (jammy-proposed) [0.942-1]
[14:59] <juliank> jbicha: retriggering the python3-defaults tests was not the nicest move
[15:00] <juliank> please talk to people before retriggering hundreds of tests that were removed for a reason
[15:02] <juliank> (1) there was vague agreement the tests were not needed (2) they need to run in the huge queue
[15:03] <juliank> also sigh python3.10's 3.10.4 is already released
[15:04] <juliank> waste of energy really
[15:05] <juliank> it also causes issues with the upstream systemd tests
[15:11] <juliank> well maybe they also just fail and don't get processed
[15:14] <juliank> oh sigh
[15:17] <juliank> We ran
[15:17] <juliank> systemd-upstream {"build-git": "https://salsa.debian.org/systemd-team/systemd.git#upstream-ci", "env": ["CFLAGS=-O0", "DEB_BUILD_PROFILES=noudeb", "TEST_UPSTREAM=1", "CONFFLAGS_UPSTREAM=--werror -Dslow-tests=true", "UPSTREAM_PULL_REQUEST=22877", "GITHUB_STATUSES_URL=https://api.github.com/repos/systemd/systemd/statuses/da97c7ed74436c6df07e00b9440da323f8ef5dcd"], "ppas":
[15:17] <juliank> ["upstream-systemd-ci/systemd-ci"], "submit-time": "2022-03-31 00:27:06"}
[15:17] <juliank> 6 times!
[15:17] <juliank> every time it fails with testbed failure, times out
[16:19] <juliank> I think we should have rate limiting, and move people's request to huge queue if submitting too many
[16:56] <jbicha> juliank: ok, it makes the excuses report harder to read when there are a lot of "test in progress" lines. The queue was empty except for systemd-upstream so I thought it wouldn't hurt to have it working over the weekend
[17:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: flash-kernel (jammy-proposed/main) [3.104ubuntu7 => 3.104ubuntu8] (core)
[18:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: usb.ids (jammy-proposed/main) [2022.02.15-1 => 2022.04.02-1] (core) (sync)
[21:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: thrift (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.13.0-7build1 => 0.16.0-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[21:24] <tumbleweed> ^ that'll have a binnew, and a transition of one package, gnuradio, but it fixes FTBFS apparently
[21:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted thrift [sync] (jammy-proposed) [0.16.0-2]
[21:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: thrift [amd64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.16.0-2] (no packageset)
[21:46] <mwhudson> ubuntu-archive: someone want to take a run at nbs?
[21:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: thrift [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.16.0-2] (no packageset)
[21:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: thrift [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.16.0-2] (no packageset)
[22:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: thrift [armhf] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.16.0-2] (no packageset)
[22:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: thrift [arm64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.16.0-2] (no packageset)
[22:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (jammy-proposed/main) [2.55.2+22.04 => 2.55.2+22.04.1] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[23:01] <mwhudson> any release team around?
[23:10] <tumbleweed> what do you need?
[23:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mdtraj (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.9.7-2build1 => 1.9.7-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[23:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mdtraj [sync] (jammy-proposed) [1.9.7-3]
[23:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gourmand (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-6 => 1.0.0-7] (no packageset) (sync)
[23:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gourmand [sync] (jammy-proposed) [1.0.0-7]
[23:18] <jbicha> tumbleweed: please reject gnome-clocks & gnome-weather from jammy unapproved. unwanted switch to libadwaita
[23:19] <tumbleweed> jbicha: rejected
[23:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gnome-clocks [sync] (jammy-proposed) [42.0-1]
[23:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gnome-weather [sync] (jammy-proposed) [42.0-1]
[23:21] <Eickmeyer> tumbleweed: Thanks, it was my mistake as jbicha pointed out, and I own that mistake.
[23:23] <mwhudson> tumbleweed: can you review snapd please
[23:23] <jbicha> Eickmeyer: not a problem :)
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pyserial (jammy-proposed/main) [3.5~b0-1 => 3.5-1] (core) (sync)
[23:57] <tumbleweed> mwhudson: accepted
[23:57] <mwhudson> tumbleweed: thanks
[23:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapd [source] (jammy-proposed) [2.55.2+22.04.1]


[01:26] <giovanni> could anyone help me to change my OS language?
[01:26] <ouroumov_> hi giovanni
[01:26] <giovanni> hello
[01:27] <giovanni> i already installed the new language trought language support but it isn't applied to the system
[01:28] <ouroumov_> You usually need to logout or reboot before the settings take effect.
[01:28] <giovanni> yeah i already restart it
[01:29] <ouroumov_> You also need to move your desired language to the top of the stack in language support settings
[01:29] <giovanni> okay and after that restar again?
[01:29] <Laserman> you wemt to ,emu - lanhuages and selecter yours?
[01:30] <ouroumov_> giovanni, a logout / login should do it according to the settings dialog
[01:30] <giovanni> okay i'm going to try it thanks
[01:30] <ouroumov_> giovanni, however be aware that some parts of the system are not translated.
[01:31] <ouroumov_> giovanni, such as the application listings in the Software Boutique
[01:31] <giovanni> and won't be?
[01:31] <ouroumov_> giovanni, it is on the works and we aim to roll out translated versions of software boutique in the 17.10 release cycle.
[01:32] <giovanni> ohh okay
[05:32] <mate|93025> teamsters
[05:32] <jm_> gday
[06:09] <jm_> hey guys, when i attempt to lock screen - my sesssion starts to hang a bit
[06:09] <jm_> i wouldnt say freeze, but many things are unresponsive - have u come across that before?
[07:50] <mustafa_> Merhaba
[09:05] <vence> Salut boit ces vence
[09:06] <vence> je suis nouvau
[09:30] <Kenzo> hey guys, anyone from the UK here?
[09:32] <alkisg> !fr | vence:
[09:34] <Kenzo> alksig, i remember you being quite helpful on several occasions. How are you? and if possible dould i rab your expertise for a moment?
[09:57] <alkisg> Kenzo, had you written my name correctly, I would have seen what you wrote before you left :)
[10:24] <Kenzo> Please someone, anyone, help me uninstall android studio. It seems impossible!
[11:01] <finn> Hey
[15:32] <alkisg> When moving 100 photos to another dir, I get the progress dialog for at least one minute... while it should happen in 1 sec, as they're in the same file system
[15:32] <alkisg> Anyone else gets that?
[15:52] <alkisg> (I mean, with cut/paste from caja)
[16:25] <conor> k
[16:26] <alkisg> Nah it completely hangs... maybe it's trying to update metadata or thumbnails or something, and it does it wrong...
[17:25] <zobeid> So, I see that buttons 4 and 5 on my mouse work as Forward and Back in Firefox. . .   But where is that configured?  I don't see anything about it in Mouse Preferences, in the Control Center?
[17:26] <Laserman> control center - keybpard shortcuts ?
[17:34] <zobeid> I didn't see anything related to the mouse in there?  I'll look again. . .
[17:34] <teward> zobeid: might be preconfigured options or code on the mouse itself.
[18:50] <Kenzo> hey anyone about?
[18:50] <Laserman> No
[18:50] <Kenzo> haha hello Laserman
[18:51] <Laserman> Aloha
[18:52] <Kenzo> do you know much about hal, hal-info package by any chance? I can't stream video from 2 sites
[18:53] <Laserman> I can only get hulu and netflix using chrome from google
[18:54] <Kenzo> chrome and firefox have failed me with this unfortunately. i might have to resort to playonlinux :o
[18:54] <Laserman> that wont help
[18:55] <Kenzo> Whaatt?! why? Back in the day when I used Ubuntu 14.04 all i needed to do was download hal/hal-info to get this site to work. now it makes no difference
[18:57] <Laserman> Oh.. if 32 bit.. bad news
[18:57] <Kenzo> I'm on a 64 bit machine
[19:00] <Kenzo> another thing that's seeming impossible is uninstalling android studio. if anyone knows they should have a monument in their image
[19:01] <Laserman> 3rd party apps suck
[19:03] <Kenzo>  yes i'm beginning to discover that. the entire internet doesn't seem to know either which is rare
[19:04] <alkisg> https://askubuntu.com/questions/546723/uninstall-android-studio-completely
[19:14] <alanb> alanb
[19:15] <alanb> Sorry, I have never used IRC before so am making mistakes
[19:18] <Kenzo> alkisg, thanks. i tried this but the program was still there!
[19:35] <alkisg> Kenzo: which of those 5 answers did you try, and where it the program after uninstallation?
[19:37] <Kenzo> alkisg, the one with 32 hits - removing each of the folders from the directories.the program was still in my menu options and when i clicked it seemed all i had done was removed my configuration/settings. so i would need to start the setup again
[19:52] <alkisg> Kenzo: you can drag the menu to your desktop, and then right click properties to see WHERE the program is
[19:52] <alkisg> That is, a file system path, not a menu
[19:55] <Kenzo> alkisg, does this answer the question? '/usr/local/android-studio/bin/studio.sh'
[19:56] <alkisg> Kenzo: yes, so, it seems you installed android-studio as root and not as the user
[19:56] <alkisg> So, /usr/local/android-studio is where the program is; and the desktop file might be in /usr/local/share/applications
[19:56] <Kenzo> Ah, I'm stumped, i just followed the instructions from the android studio website
[19:57] <Kenzo> so i need to find the /usr/local/android-studio and delete it?
[19:58] <alkisg> Programs put data in various locations. That's the major location, but deleting that one won't e.g. delete your menu entry
[19:59] <alkisg> First check the installation instructions that you followed, and see if they have uninstallation instructions
[19:59] <alkisg> Then, check the other dir that I said as well
[19:59] <alkisg> Finally, if you delete those and you still have leftovers, you can also check in #android
[19:59] <alkisg> As it's not an ubuntu package so it's not supported in ubuntu channels
[20:00] <Kenzo> OK will do, thanks alkisg. I'm not going to make that mistake again. How can yout tell if you are installing as root?
[20:00] <alkisg> sudo means root
[20:01] <Kenzo> oh yeah *facepalm*
[20:09] <Akuli> everything is probably somewhere in /usr/local
[20:09] <Akuli> most e.g. /usr/local/share/applications/whatever could be a menu entry
[20:09] <Akuli> e.g. /usr/local/share/applications/whatever could be a menu entry
[21:39] <conor__> hello
[21:40] <conor__> total newbie
[21:41] <deskwizard> we've all been one at some point ;)
[21:45] <conor_> whats the way to register


[00:40] <cmaloney> Evening
[00:41] <rick_h_> jparty
[00:41] <rick_h_> party
[01:33] <mrgoodcat> prefer pyparty to jparty
[01:33] <rick_h_> yea, goparty?
[01:35] <mrgoodcat> goparty is cool but i can never get the version of goGames i want. Every time they change the rules of a game and assume everybody wants the new version.
[01:37] <cmaloney> Can we just stick with cparty?
[01:42] <mrgoodcat> wouldn't want to rekindle the cparty v cpparty wars
[01:43] <cmaloney> heh
[12:42] <jrwren_> zomg, I just had a PR land 20 months after I created it: https://github.com/JulienPalard/Pipe/pull/12#issuecomment-59826673
[12:42] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/Qf49MQ - implemented windowed function by jrwren · Pull Request #12 · JulienPalard/Pipe · GitHub
[12:45] <mrgoodcat> do-release-upgrade on digital ocean is so fast
[12:45] <mrgoodcat> fetched 346 MB in 3.3 seconds
[12:45] <mrgoodcat> they host an ubuntu mirror and disk access is super fast
[12:45] <brousch> yes
[12:46] <jrwren_> mrgoodcat: and probably took 5 hours to "Prepare, Unpack, Extract" or whatever it is.
[12:47] <mrgoodcat> its doing that now
[12:47] <mrgoodcat> few hundred packages so that makes sense
[12:47] <mrgoodcat> i started at 8:41
[12:47] <mrgoodcat> so we'll see
[12:54] <rick_h_> morning
[13:18] <jrwren_> doesn't matter how fast you can download the packages, unpacking them is SLOW SLOW SLOW
[13:24] <mrgoodcat> actually it wasn't bad
[13:24] <mrgoodcat> full upgrade was ~30 minutes
[13:25] <mrgoodcat> and a lot of it was waiting on prompts from me i suspect
[13:25] <mrgoodcat> from 12.04 to 14.04
[13:25] <jrwren_> not bad at all
[13:25] <mrgoodcat> everything APPEARS to still work too....
[13:25] <mrgoodcat> which is a bit worrying actually
[13:25] <jrwren_> especially given the apache 2.2 ->2.4 upgrade
[13:25] <mrgoodcat> a least if something was obviously broken i could fix it and feel better
[13:25] <jrwren_> running apache?
[13:26] <mrgoodcat> well i run a pretty simple apache setup
[13:26] <mrgoodcat> its in /var/www and its static pages only
[13:26] <mrgoodcat> fully javascript/html
[13:26] <mrgoodcat> pages are stored as markdown files and the javascript renders them
[13:26] <mrgoodcat> only one html page, all the rest are md
[13:27] <jrwren_> ah, so not much in permissions
[13:27] <mrgoodcat> nope. just read
[13:27] <jrwren_> ha!
[13:27] <jrwren_> client rendered MD eh?  cool.
[13:27] <mrgoodcat> yea its pretty cool
[13:27] <mrgoodcat> http://dyladan.me
[13:27] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/38EzRS - MDwiki
[13:27] <mrgoodcat> it works pretty well too
[13:35] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:35] <mrgoodcat> morning
[13:38] <mrgoodcat> anybody have any opinions on exim v dovecot?
[13:38] <mrgoodcat> er
[13:38] <mrgoodcat> exim vs postfix i mean
[13:38] <mrgoodcat> dovecot isn't even the same thing lol
[13:38] <mrgoodcat> is there a rick approved shortlist of MTAs?
[13:42] <cmaloney> I use postfix and love it
[13:47] <cmaloney> And Postfix appears under more active development than exim
[13:50] <mrgoodcat> which is simpler to set up?
[13:50] <mrgoodcat> its just for self-hosting
[13:50] <mrgoodcat> not work
[13:50] <mrgoodcat> so it doesn't need to be super crazy
[13:51] <jrwren_> postfix <3
[13:51] <jrwren_> its an MTA, there is no simple.
[13:52] <mrgoodcat> lol
[13:58] <cmaloney> Postfix is pretty well configured out of the box under Ubuntu
[13:58] <cmaloney> That said, MTAs are kind of a black box for me.
[13:59] <mrgoodcat> i'm setting up on Arch, so no magic for me
[13:59] <mrgoodcat> half the point is to try to understand the full stack
[13:59] <cmaloney> I'd still go with Postfix
[14:00] <cmaloney> the config files are pretty straightforward
[14:00] <cmaloney> And you're more likely to find Postfix out in the wild than exim
[14:00] <mrgoodcat> sounds good
[14:01] <cmaloney> Also Exim sounds like a MTA written in Emacs.
[14:01] <cmaloney> The name. That's all. :)
[14:03] <mrgoodcat> lol
[14:07] <jrwren_> exim is lightweight, which is why IIRC it is debian default.
[14:10] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: I just use msmtp
[15:26] <mrgoodcat> anybody try/use pgweb? https://github.com/sosedoff/pgweb/
[15:26] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/W1YOXv - sosedoff/pgweb · GitHub
[15:27] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: no, I use pgadmin3 when I go GUI
[15:27] <mrgoodcat> i've never used any pg gui
[15:28] <mrgoodcat> phpmyadmin was a lifesaver when i was learning mysql though
[15:28] <cmaloney> Last gui I used was phpmyadmin
[15:28] <cmaloney> I stopped a long time ago
[15:38] <greg-g> oh no!
[15:38] <greg-g> New packages going to be removed from Debian 'testing' (the maintainer might need help): - gnome-do - https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gnome-do - removal on 2014-11-26 (bug: #763006) - gnome-do-plugins - https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gnome-do-plugins - removal on 2014-11-26
[15:38] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/4W1FS6 - Debian Package Tracker - gnome-do
[15:39] <mrgoodcat> thats a bit surprising
[15:39] <rick_h_> man, gnome-do...haven't heard of that in a long time
[15:40] <greg-g> oh good, it's fixed: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=763006
[15:40] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/WdY8Fx - #763006 - gnome-do: Crashes at start - Debian Bug report logs
[16:02] <cmaloney> Didn't think folks still used Gnome DO
[16:02] <greg-g> I do!
[16:02] <greg-g> what do you do instead?
[16:02]  * greg-g doesn't like change
[16:03] <rick_h_> gmrun
[16:03] <rick_h_> it's super light and does what i need
[16:03] <rick_h_> but I only use it to launch things
[16:10] <widox> I use dmenu, its default in i3. just a simple program launcher
[16:23]  * akelling hugs i3f
[16:23] <akelling> i3*
[16:41] <greg-g> I guess I don't use the plugins in gnome-do anymore
[16:42] <greg-g> it's just <launcher>ic<enter> (iceweasel), <launcher>fi (files/nautilous), <launch>ter(minal), and <launcher>lo(ck screen)
[16:42] <greg-g> that's pretty much everything I use
[16:43] <jrwren_> cmd-1, cmd-2, cmd-3, cmd-4 if you setup your bar right :p
[16:43] <jrwren_> oh wait... that is windows 7 taht works that way :)
[16:43] <greg-g> bar?
[16:43] <greg-g> huh
[16:44] <greg-g> (launcher == <ctrl><space> for me)
[16:44] <jrwren_> ever use windows 7 ?
[16:44] <greg-g> nope
[16:44] <jrwren_> then never mind :)
[16:45] <greg-g> never touched one, nothing since XP (well, I used a Vista laptop to checkin for a flight once)
[16:46] <mrgoodcat> i use dmenu
[16:46] <mrgoodcat> greg-g: if you want a good full-feature launcher check out synapse
[16:47] <greg-g> depends on zeitgeist....
[16:47] <mrgoodcat> my i3 meta key is the super key, which is in the caps lock position on my keyboard (chromebook)
[16:47] <mrgoodcat> super convenient
[16:47] <mrgoodcat> i use dmenu, but i used to use synapse
[16:48] <greg-g> capslock->escape (vim4lif) and the super/command key on my kinesis is hard to reach, actually
[16:49] <rick_h_> greg-g: so I moved super to delete on my kenisis
[16:49] <rick_h_> greg-g: so it's right at the thumb because I use it for my tiling WM controls
[16:49] <rick_h_> greg-g: and yea, control on caps lock for all that stuff
[16:49] <mrgoodcat> my desk neighbor has foot pedal meta keys
[16:50] <rick_h_> ugh, forget that. I've got a footrest for ergo and not going to use a foot pedal
[16:50] <jrwren_> mrgoodcat: caps lock is ctrl, vim was written on a adm-3a: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-3A#mediaviewer/File:KB_Terminal_ADM3A.svg
[16:50] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/bQ0SqU - ADM-3A - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[16:52] <greg-g> rick_h_: hmm, I actually use delete frequently
[16:53] <rick_h_> greg-g: gotcha
[16:53] <mrgoodcat> which kinesis do you have?
[16:53] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea, I don't tend to use it, I use delete. And with vim bindings in most things delete is something I rarely need, just move to a place I can use backspace
[16:53] <rick_h_> advantage usb
[16:55] <greg-g> mrgoodcat: advantage usb (black)
[16:55] <jrwren_> I may actually try mapping escape to tab. that could be interesting.
[16:56] <mrgoodcat> greg-g: could try mapping it to end
[16:56] <mrgoodcat> doesn't seem too far to reach
[16:58] <cmaloney> jcastro: http://youtu.be/Hr3HCNIgv40
[16:58] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/UfLrPA - Duran Duran - Rio (Isolated Bass) - YouTube
[16:58] <greg-g> mrgoodcat: I use that all the time as well :)
[16:59] <cmaloney> I just use whatever ships with Ubuntu. ;)
[16:59] <greg-g> I guess I could map the right ctrl key...
[16:59] <greg-g> I use the left one predominately
[17:00] <cmaloney> I like the convenience of knowing that my entire workflow is subject to change whenever there's a new release. :)
[17:00] <cmaloney> Fuck muscle memory. :)
[17:00] <mrgoodcat> D: kinesis so expensive
[17:01] <cmaloney> Actually I'm pretty happy with Unity at the moment
[17:01] <mrgoodcat> i'm pretty happy with unity
[17:01] <greg-g> mrgoodcat: when your wrists start hurting, tell me how much $200 is compared to surgery or lost work time :)
[17:01] <mrgoodcat> yea i know
[17:01] <greg-g> ;)
[17:01] <greg-g> I made work buy me one for the office
[17:02]  * greg-g bought his own one for home office
[17:02] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: yea, it works on helping the pain
[17:03] <cmaloney> I take up air drumming to help with wrist issues.
[17:03] <mrgoodcat> i've never really had problems with RSI, but I imagine if I did 300$ would be a small price to pay
[17:03] <rick_h_> yep
[17:03] <mrgoodcat> have you had problems or is it purely preventative?
[17:03] <rick_h_> I have wrist pain when using my other keyboards for more than a few weeks
[17:04] <greg-g> I've had wrist issues yeah
[17:04] <mrgoodcat> yea so you have a more pressing need for it
[17:04] <greg-g> when I traveled all the time, so using laptop keyboard
[17:04] <greg-g> I started putting my kenises in my carryon for hotel use
[17:04] <mrgoodcat> i get pains in my finger knuckles from hitting the chicklets too hard
[17:05] <mrgoodcat> just the last knuckle on my first 3 fingers of each hand
[17:05] <cmaloney> 0I had some pain in my fingers from using my Cherry Blacks
[17:05]  * greg-g shudders at chicklets
[17:05] <cmaloney> but that was until I got used to them.
[17:05] <mrgoodcat> i'm fine with chicklets ow
[17:05] <mrgoodcat> now*
[17:05] <mrgoodcat> just had to learn to type more gentlly
[17:05] <greg-g> also, +1 to air drumming
[17:05] <cmaloney> I can go back and forth although I prefer the mechanical keyboards.
[17:05] <greg-g> I need to do cadences on my practice pad more
[17:06] <cmaloney> rumidents FTW
[17:06] <greg-g> rudiments, that's it
[17:06] <mrgoodcat> well definitely PREFER mech keyboard
[17:06] <jrwren_> someday I'll get something with cherry switches :)
[17:06] <greg-g> I wish I had my old rudiments book
[17:06] <cmaloney> There's a neat program that I found for helping with hand issues iwth drumming
[17:06] <greg-g> oh?!
[17:06] <cmaloney> http://www.amazon.com/Tommy-Igoe-Great-Hands-Lifetime/dp/B0031SUP26
[17:06] <mrgoodcat> but since my computer is a laptop and i like never work in the same place twice i rarely get to use my mech keyboard when not at work (where i leave it)
[17:06] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/L8ogkl - Amazon.com: Tommy Igoe Great Hands for a Lifetime: Tommy Igoe, Gregory McKean: Movies & TV
[17:06] <cmaloney> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MofYoqZzXDw
[17:07] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/afn3Bh - Tommy Igoe: Great Hands for a Lifetime - YouTube
[17:07] <cmaloney> They sold it with a drum pad and sticks
[17:07] <jrwren_> maybe if I end up like JWZ, I will end up like JWZ running a club :p
[17:08] <cmaloney> heh
[17:08] <cmaloney> he still does code from time to time
[17:09] <cmaloney> Or at least he bitches about code from time to time
[17:09] <jrwren_> only enough to bitch about how it takes time to learn a library :p
[17:09] <jrwren_> cmaloney: HA!
[17:16] <greg-g> "we're drumming, we're not playing flute" :) :) :)
[17:20] <cmaloney> Yeah, there's a lot of great quips in there
[17:35] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney brousch you might like this awesome take on tic-tac-toe http://imgur.com/gallery/DhGEz
[17:35] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/Vxaflb - (Super) Ultimate Tic-Tac-Toe - Imgur
[17:37] <cmaloney> Just saw that
[17:37] <cmaloney> Pretty interesting
[17:37] <cmaloney> Makes the number of decisions more interesting
[17:38] <cmaloney> Though I wonder how "solvable" it is (eg: if there's a best move problem like their is in Tic Tac Toe)
[17:38] <brousch> Appify it!
[17:38] <cmaloney> appify?
[17:39] <cmaloney>  /kickban brousch
[17:39] <brousch> Verb: To make it an app
[17:39] <brousch> You can verbify anything these days
[17:39] <cmaloney>  /kickban brousch
[17:39] <cmaloney>  /kickban brousch
[17:40] <cmaloney>  /kickban brousch
[17:40] <cmaloney> craig@gaplus:~$ dict appify
[17:40] <cmaloney> No definitions found for "appify"
[17:40] <mrgoodcat> there is an app for it
[17:40] <brousch> Your old man dictionary means nothing any more
[17:40] <mrgoodcat> and you can play online here http://vikeshkhanna.webfactional.com/ultimate/
[17:40] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/6U3R5F - Ultimate Tic Tac Toe
[17:40] <mrgoodcat> the app is called tic tactics
[17:40] <brousch> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=appify
[17:40] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/2bzjVV - Urban Dictionary: appify
[17:41] <cmaloney> brousch: I leave all matters of language to Urban Dictionary
[17:42] <brousch> I'll dictify appify so appify will be in your dictionary, dawg
[17:47] <cmaloney> Don't make me crowbarify your ass.
[17:55] <mrgoodcat> .ud appify
[17:55] <bookiebot> appify: To create or modify an existing service as to make an [application] of it which in turn can be used in a larger [application]
[17:57] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: I hate you so much right now. :)
[17:57] <mrgoodcat> :)
[17:57] <mrgoodcat> its not even a new feature
[17:58] <mrgoodcat> just one i haven't pulled out yet
[17:58] <cmaloney> .ud rousch
[17:58] <mrgoodbot> No results found
[17:58] <cmaloney> .ud ben
[17:58] <mrgoodbot> Ben: Really tall, super amazing, the best sex on the planet, huge dick, super cute. Every guy wants to be him and every girl wants him. has the most amazing personality. loves plants. Really strong and can stay up for hours just screwing.  Now we got rid of rick.
[18:01] <brousch> He probably has all IRC traffic read out loud to him
[18:01] <cmaloney> We're done.
[18:03] <mrgoodcat> i can disable that if its annoying...
[18:04] <cmaloney> Please.
[18:04] <mrgoodcat> i added it for my other irc channel
[18:04] <mrgoodcat> hang on
[18:04] <brousch> .ud rick
[18:04] <mrgoodbot> rick: (v.) - to remove something with your tongue. The word is a combination of the words "remove" and "lick," and was popularized by its use in the famous sex column "Savage Love."
[18:04] <cmaloney> brousch: Knock it off, pls.
[18:04] <mrgoodbot> No results found
[18:05] <brousch> But it's so fitting!
[18:05] <mrgoodbot> No results found
[18:05] <brousch> We removed him with our naughty tongues!
[18:05] <brousch> Well fingers, but close enough
[18:06] <mrgoodcat> rick really left the channel?
[18:06] <cmaloney> yeah,
[18:07] <mrgoodcat> now i feel bad...
[18:07] <cmaloney> He's still on IRC.
[18:08] <mrgoodcat> didn't realize it annoyed him that much...
[18:12] <jrwren_> IMO those responses violate the ubuntu code of conduct.
[18:13] <mrgoodcat> yea its disabled now
[18:13] <jrwren_> thank you for disabling.
[18:13] <mrgoodcat> np
[18:14] <cmaloney> tx
[18:14] <cmaloney> Whether or not rick_h_ comes back is debatable.
[18:25] <mrgoodcat> well it seems i killed the channel
[18:26] <greg-g> please remove the ud function
[18:27] <greg-g> ah, thanks
[18:28] <cmaloney> It's gone
[18:28] <greg-g> So, just to be clear, that kind of language and those kinds of jokes aren't ok in here. I no longer have any official say, but, this needs to be a safe place for all people, not just people who are ok with misogony.
[18:29] <cmaloney> understoff
[18:29] <cmaloney> understood, even
[18:30] <mrgoodcat> yea i didn't mean to cause that kind of trouble
[18:30] <greg-g> in other news, it's cold here today, 59 :)
[18:30] <mrgoodcat> its a joke function for another channel
[18:30] <cmaloney> unrelated: I just deleted my Twitter account.
[18:31] <greg-g> cmaloney: whoa
[18:31] <brousch> again?
[18:31] <greg-g> I just cleaned up a ton of people (ie: deleted and or turned off their retweets) and followed some new ones
[18:31] <cmaloney> brousch: No, that was the unfollow and namespace collision prevention
[18:31] <cmaloney> this time around I'm just done
[18:32] <cmaloney> I'm to the point now where I just don't care
[18:37] <mrgoodcat> namespace collision? what do you mean by that?
[18:38] <cmaloney> Someone decides to take over the account
[18:38] <cmaloney> Like they didn with my previous Twitter account.
[18:38] <jrwren_> cmaloney: you follow the wrong peeps :p
[18:39] <cmaloney> (Which they said they didn't allow, but like most things Twitter later relented and did anyway)
[18:39] <cmaloney> jrwren_: No, I follow the right people, on Google+
[18:40] <cmaloney> Tired of seeing conversations halfway in
[18:42] <mrgoodcat> ugh
[18:42] <mrgoodcat> my stupid class requires a windows computer
[18:42] <mrgoodcat> how is this ok with anyone?
[18:43] <mrgoodcat> its a networking class for heaven's sake
[18:44] <brousch> What college?
[18:46] <mrgoodcat> OCC
[18:46] <mrgoodcat> its an online/offline hybrid class
[18:46] <mrgoodcat> and we have to do these things that require silverlight
[18:47] <brousch> ew
[18:47] <mrgoodcat> and i pipelight keeps crashing
[18:47] <mrgoodcat> so now i have to go to the school to use one of their computers
[18:47] <mrgoodcat> meteor.js got 1.0 release today
[18:52] <jrwren_> drop the class.
[18:53] <jrwren_> IME networking courses are useless
[18:54] <mrgoodcat> well...
[18:54] <mrgoodcat> i'm not going to drop the class...
[18:54] <mrgoodcat> good advice tho?
[18:54] <mrgoodcat> just because its useless doesn't mean i don't need it
[19:09] <jrwren_> ah college :)  Things were so different then.
[19:10] <cmaloney> Yeah, all of the good bands were still active
[19:16] <jrwren_> cmaloney: HA!
[19:56] <cmaloney> http://www.jwz.org/blog/2014/10/jwz-has-more-than-two-problems/
[19:56] <mrgoodbot> http://goo.gl/2FFtlh - jwz: "jwz has more than two problems."
[20:14] <mrgoodcat> test
[20:14] <cmaloney> .
[20:18] <mrgoodcat> didn't actually mean to do that here. was trying to get a different window
[20:23] <jrwren_> mrgoodcat: no worries, lets move on like howard deen.
[21:45] <jrwren_> worth mentioning that the pgweb tool mentioned earlier here is not an admin tool exactly. its a browser tool.
[21:46] <jrwren_> its different enough from phppgadmin or pgadmin3


[00:24] <jimisrvrox> SiDi: you around?
[00:27] <SiDi> jimisrvrox: yes
[00:27] <jimisrvrox> cool
[00:27] <jimisrvrox> did I tell you when I did down/up on the iwconfig that my system froze?
[00:27] <SiDi> Ah
[00:28] <SiDi> This sounds like a wifi driver issue
[00:28] <SiDi> aptitude search rt25 please
[00:29] <jimisrvrox> hrm well heres the other thing turned on the pc the other day and it told me it had a CMOS checksum error but I dont think it has anything to do with it
[00:29] <SiDi> And tell me which has a 'i' in fron of the name
[00:29]  * SiDi doesnt know what CMOS is :|
[00:29] <jimisrvrox> ive got tons of driver files but havent a clue as to whats what heh
[00:30] <SiDi> [01:28] <SiDi> aptitude search rt25 please ;)
[00:30] <SiDi> Type this : aptitude search rt25
[00:30] <SiDi> in a console * And tell me if one of the two entries has a 'i' in front of the name
[00:31] <jimisrvrox> shows nothing on this box
[00:31] <jimisrvrox> but if you asking me to do it on my other box that has no net?
[00:32] <th0r> SiDi: cmos is where the bootup bios is installed....could indicate a hardware problem in the computer
[00:33] <th0r> SiDi: cmos is the technology of the eeprom for the bios
[00:33] <SiDi> okies
[00:33] <SiDi> jimisrvrox: on the box that has the internet problem yes
[00:33] <jimisrvrox> yup
[00:36] <jimisrvrox> cpu is running at 53C and the CMOS error only came up once but when I just rebooted it did not come up
[00:39] <th0r> jimisrvrox: the cmos error might have been just a glitch...or it could have been an early warning. Just keep an eye out for repetitions in the future
[00:40] <jimisrvrox> 10-4
[00:40] <jimisrvrox> th0r: are you good with wireless stuff?
[00:41] <jimisrvrox> last I remember that I had this problem is it ended up being a rather easy fix..problem is I did not document any of it so im here again..
[00:41] <jimisrvrox> this time im doc'ing it
[00:42] <th0r> jimisrvrox: not really
[00:43] <jimisrvrox> damn
[00:55] <jimisrvrox> alright then th0r gots me another ? bsides my net connection..one is I have my usb formatted as fat32 to work with windows so not suprisingliy when I try to copy something from my linux box onto my usb drive it tells me that its a read=only file system...how can I format my drive to where I can use it in both win and linux so that I can put some files from my *nix box on there right now. I...
[00:55] <jimisrvrox> ...have access to a windows box if it makes it any easier...
[00:57] <th0r> jimisrvrox: the fat32 should be fine. How big is the drive?
[00:59] <jimisrvrox> big enough to cover what I need..
[01:00] <jimisrvrox> but it tells me that its readonly so I cant for whatever reason copy the stuff over..
[01:00] <th0r> I use such usb drives all the time without problems. You might have to add them to fstab if you aren't running the gnome file system with xfce...try adding a line to fstab just to see if it works
[01:01] <jimisrvrox> i run gnome
[01:01] <jimisrvrox> but its beyond me as to why I cant seem to copy the stuff..
[01:01] <th0r> jimisrvrox: then the mount should be automatic....but I have heard of that problem before...give me a sec
[01:03] <jimisrvrox> it mounts and everything just fine
[01:03] <jimisrvrox> I cna even cut/paste into a hdd from the usb but I cannot go from my linux fs to the usb
[01:05] <th0r> jimisrvrox: do a mount command and see what options the usb drive is mounted with
[01:05] <jimisrvrox> ok brb
[01:11] <jimisrvrox> ok all I did was type in mount
[01:11] <jimisrvrox> and I got something like rw, nosuid, blah blah blah is that what youre asking about?
[01:11] <th0r> yeah....the rw means the drive is mounted read/write
[01:12] <jimisrvrox> ok so you need to know what the other parameters are?
[01:12] <th0r> if it was mounted read only it would be ro
[01:12] <jimisrvrox> oh ok
[01:12] <jimisrvrox> thats what I was thinking myself
[01:12] <th0r> not really....just wanted to check that
[01:12] <jimisrvrox> but when I go to properties it tells me that its a vfat
[01:12] <th0r> jimisrvrox: might also be mounted with the wrong permissions....does it say 'users'
[01:13] <th0r> jimisrvrox: yeah..vfat is fat32
[01:13] <jimisrvrox> said something about permissions could not be determined
[01:13] <th0r> pastebin the mount command output
[01:13] <jimisrvrox> when I clicked on the permissions tab in the properties
[01:16] <jimisrvrox> I cant..
[01:16] <jimisrvrox> I have no net connection on that box
[01:16] <jimisrvrox> Id have to write the shit down
[01:17] <th0r> jimisrvrox: ok....checking google I found a web page that says they fixed the problem by reformatting the usb drive....
[01:17] <th0r> jeez! just found out I can't copy and paste a url from opera!
[01:18] <jimisrvrox> ok thats fine by me..already cut/pasted whatever the hell I wanted..
[01:18] <jimisrvrox> but how would you format the drive in linux?
[01:19] <jimisrvrox> bc i am no cli expert..but I am learning some in a linux class right now using suse sles9 server and it sucks bc I do not learn anything about the desktop type stuff and inztead of helping us the stupid ass teacher tells us to go to google..
[01:22] <th0r> jeez...darn marina wifi
[01:23] <th0r> jimisrvrox: you still there?
[01:23] <jimisrvrox> yeah
[01:24] <th0r> the url I had indicated that reformatting the usb drive in windows might solve the read only issue...might be worth a try.
[01:24] <th0r> I have seen the problem before...had it myself...but don't remember what i did to fix it
[01:28] <jimisrvrox> heh sounds like me with the damn wireless
[01:28] <jimisrvrox> thing of it is when you format it in windows you have to format it as a windows FS
[01:34] <th0r> jimisrvrox: that is oki....use fat32...it will work fine in linux as vfat.
[01:34] <th0r> jimisrvrox: in fact, I would prefer fat32...so whatever you put on the drive is readable by ANY computer (except mac of course)
[01:36] <th0r> jimisrvrox: I run only linux on my computer, but would still format a usb drive as vfat
[01:50] <th0r> jimisrvrox: need to call it a night here. Hope the reformat works for you...good luck with the wireless
[04:54] <tavelram_> Im about to install xubuntu 9.04, but id like to netboot via grub instead of burning the iso. Where can I get the netboot installer without having to download the iso and extract them manually?
[04:54] <tavelram_> Could/should i use the ubuntu netboot instead?
[04:56] <forces> netboot?
[04:56] <forces> you mean netinst?
[04:56] <tavelram_> probably, not familiar with (x)ubuntu.
[04:56] <tavelram_> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/i386/ch05s01.html#boot-initrd
[04:56] <forces> but the netinst is an ISO too
[04:56] <forces> and you need to burn it
[04:56] <tavelram_> ok, then no :)
[04:57] <forces> use unetbooting
[04:57] <forces> you need an ISO image, the use an USB to boot from it
[04:57] <forces> then install ubuntu
[04:57] <tavelram_> that would be even mor overkill
[04:59] <tavelram_> forces, how similiar are ubuntu and xubuntu?
[04:59] <forces> the DE makes the difference
[04:59] <forces> ubuntu uses gnome and xubuntu xfce
[05:00] <tavelram_> yeah, but do they share the same boot process etc?
[05:00] <forces> yes
[05:00] <forces> the install process is the same in both
[05:00] <forces> in all
[05:00] <tavelram_> forces, ok, so I can use this guide for the entire process? https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/i386/ch05s01.html#boot-initrd
[05:00] <forces> (x)(k)(edu)ubuntu(studio)
[05:01] <forces> yes
[05:01] <tavelram_> ok, so is there anywhere I can browse the 9.04 online?
[05:02] <tavelram_> all i want is the files netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz and netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/linux, without having to download the whole iso.
[05:05] <forces> the netinst ISO has like 8MB
[05:05] <tavelram_> oh, ok.
[05:08] <tavelram_> nevermind, found the files i was looking for.
[05:09] <tavelram_> i might have followed an unneccesarry symlink or something, but this is a kickass path :p   /pub/os/Linux/distributions/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/386/ubuntu-installer/i386
[05:18] <gobux> I'm having problems using the nvidia-xlg-71 package with xubuntu 9.04.  Does anyone know if this still works?
[05:21] <gobux> sorry, that's nvidia-glx-71
[05:25] <psycho_oreos> sounds like a driver for older chipsets
[06:04] <matir>  /away just when u think u r alone, take a look around
[06:05] <matir> sorry floks
[06:08] <n2diy> matir: how could you ever think you were alone?
[06:31] <matir> i dont . people do
[09:31] <hosoka> hello everyone
[09:31] <psycho_oreos> ih
[09:31] <hosoka> If I minimize my Firefox where does this go actually ? I cannot find this nowhere.
[09:31] <hosoka> In Ubuntu it was easy to find but in Xubunt bit different.
[09:32] <pteague> should still be able to alt+tab to it
[09:33] <hosoka> ok, tried it out and it works. Great.
[09:33] <hosoka> bye
[09:33] <pteague> although if it's not showing up on the panel & it's not in alt+tab it may have crashed... in which case you can open a terminal & `ps aux | grep firefox` to see if it's even running
[09:34] <hosoka> found it with alt+tab
[09:35] <hosoka> I now do see it on the panel. But slightly behind a active program currently running.
[09:35] <hosoka> thanks for the tip.
[12:33] <mikubuntu> whats the significance of this msg? : W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-24-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>-24.1_i386.deb
[12:33] <mikubuntu>   Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:34] <vinnl> mikubuntu, that means that the server you get your packages from is (temporarily, I presume) down
[12:34] <vinnl> You could try selecting a different mirror though Applications->System->Software Sources
[12:35] <mikubuntu> (after a reboot on my friends machine) hes freaking out
[12:35] <vinnl> Oh wait, it's not down for m
[12:35] <vinnl> *me
[12:35] <vinnl> Does he still have an internet connection?
[12:35] <mikubuntu> he just sent me the email with the error message
[12:35] <mikubuntu> i think thats his only comp
[12:36] <mikubuntu> lemme call him
[16:27] <hexbase> Hi
[16:28] <vinnl> !hi
[16:28] <hexbase> When i want to reboot, xfce says i dont have permission for hal.powermanagement or something like that
[16:33] <nikolam> hex ctrl alt backspace , then ctrl alt delete
[16:33] <hexbase> when i do that?
[16:34] <vinnl> nikolam, wouldn't it better to find the cause of the problem?
[16:35] <nikolam> vinnl, it happens sometimes to me to. My cause is xfapplet staying in memory i think
[16:35] <vinnl> hexbase, do you happen to know if you use xfapplet?
[16:35] <nikolam> when xfapplet is killed, user can log in ok
[16:36] <hexbase> vinnl, i dont know
[16:36] <vinnl> Then you probably don't :)
[16:38] <hexbase> vinnl, no i dont have it
[16:39] <nikolam> hexbase, you can go to console with ctrl alt F2
[16:39] <nikolam> and see what processes are active Before login to xfce and after problem with unable to restart from xfce
[16:40] <nikolam> type ps -A | grep xf   before log to xfce
[16:41] <nikolam> so system refuse to restart -> ctrl alt backspace -> ctrl alt F2 ->log in -> ps -A  | grep xf
[16:41] <nikolam> see if you can see xf* something
[17:22] <ianMac> hello, I have a ibook g4 running osx 10.3, I partitioned the HD using jaunty live and now I cant get back into osx.... any ideas on how to fix it?
[17:22] <ianMac> I have a ibook g4 running osx 10.3, I partitioned the HD using jaunty live and now I cant get back into osx.... any ideas on how to fix it?
[17:23] <vinnl> ianMac, did you also install Xubuntu after partitioning it? And are you sure you preserved the OS X partition during partitioning?
[17:23] <ianMac> I did, Im in xubuntu now
[17:24] <ianMac> I used the xubuntu partition tool during install
[17:24] <vinnl> OK, ehm, could you install Gnome Partition Editor to find out whether your OSX partitions are still there for sure?
[17:24] <ianMac> sure, Im pretty new to linux distros, can you tell me where I can get that?
[17:26] <TheSheep> system->synaptic package manager
[17:26] <TheSheep> and search for that
[17:26] <ianMac> cool thanks
[17:27] <vinnl> Or Applications->Add/Remove :)
[17:38] <ianMac> okay, the partition editor and it says it cant mount "machintosh HD" because the enclosing drive for the volume is locked
[17:39] <vinnl> Hmm... Could it be that you did not shut down your computer correctly before you installed Xubuntu?
[17:40] <ianMac> honestly I dont remember
[17:40] <ianMac> could be because I had a hard time installing xubuntu and had to shut down from the xubuntu install several times by holding down the power button
[17:41] <vinnl> OK well it seems like it might not matter, I think we can conclude that it is still there
[17:41] <vinnl> When you boot your computer, do you see something like "Press Esc for boot menu"?
[17:41] <ianMac> yea it shows 19.84gb for it
[17:42] <ianMac> no it takes me to yaboot and asks me to choose between osx or linux or cd, when I choose osx it shows a file blinking to the mac logo and then a question mark
[17:42] <ianMac> I tried holding option after the boot chime and it only gave linux as a choice to boot
[17:43] <vinnl> Hmm, I don't really know anything about yaboot and the only thing I know of the question mark is that it means something went wrong booting
[17:44] <vinnl> Which might after all have to do with the error you got in Gparted
[17:44] <ianMac> I guess I need to find out how to unlock the mac drive now
[17:44] <vinnl> Does gparted also show a suggestion for resolving it?
[17:44] <vinnl> I would guess a disk check but I have no idea how that works on OS X disks
[17:45] <ianMac> no, it just shows a caution sign next to fiel system that says uknown
[17:45] <vinnl> :S
[17:45] <ianMac> ya, thats what I said lol
[17:45] <vinnl> And in the right-click menu there's also no "Check disk for errors" or something?
[17:46] <ianMac> lemme see
[17:48] <ianMac> okay I double clicked it and it says warning unable to detect file system: possible reasons- file system is damaged, file system is unknown to Gparted, there is no file system available
[17:48] <vinnl> Hmm, the file system for OS X was HFS, right?
[17:49] <ianMac> I think, but Im not sure, its whatever is default for osx 10.3
[17:49] <vinnl> It says here Gparted can check HFS+ but not HFS
[17:49] <vinnl> Yeah well I have little to no knowledge about OS X :S
[17:49] <ianMac> hda3, it says it up top
[17:49] <vinnl> That's the name of the device, not the filesystem
[17:49] <vinnl> Hmm :S
[17:49] <ianMac> lol, my bad
[17:50] <vinnl> You might try to see if there's an OS X support channel and whether they can help you there
[17:50] <ianMac> k thanks anyway, I made some progress, at least I know its still there
[17:50] <vinnl> Yeah let's hope all the data on there is still intact :S
[17:51] <ianMac> yea, if not I guess I'll just have to do a new install
[17:51] <ianMac> hey, whats the best flash plugin for ppc?
[17:52] <vinnl> Ehm, I believe you had to fuss around with nspluginwrapper but I'm not sure
[17:52] <vinnl> !flash
[17:52] <vinnl> !ppc
[17:52] <vinnl> Oh, ubottu's not here :(
[17:53] <vinnl> ianMac, ah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#Flash%20for%20AMD64%20and%20PPC
[18:02] <ianMac> hey vinnl, r u still here?
[18:02] <vinnl> ianMac, yep
[18:03] <ianMac> friggin battery died, and for some reason xubuntu is freezing on wake up
[18:03] <vinnl> Wake up as in fresh boot, or did you hibernate of suspend?
[18:03] <ianMac> anyway, any suggestions on a good flash plugin for ppc?
[18:03] <vinnl> Because the latter is known to often have problems
[18:03] <ianMac> hibernate of suspend
[18:03] <vinnl> *or suspend, sorry
 ianMac, ah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#Flash%20for%20AMD64%20and%20PPC
[18:05] <ianMac> cool, I'll check it out, thats next on my list
[18:06] <ianMac> thx for your help vinnl
[18:06] <ianMac> gg
[18:06] <vinnl> yw :)
[19:33] <dkkong> Is there a way to make a bootable backup of my entire Xubuntu system (desktop settings, etc)? I've tried using RemasterSys and it says the image is too big for a DVD. I have an empty external harddrive I could use.
[19:35] <vidd> dkkong, why not simply install on that drive, and copy all the folders and files from your working to backup?
[19:36] <dkkong> Like do a new installation to the external, and just copy the system to the main drive? Would that make it bootable?
[19:37] <vidd> dkkong, the install makes it bootable....
[19:37] <vinnl> Ibelieve there was one other than RemasterSys but I can't recall its name


[10:05] <Myrtti> daftykins: oh my love for 7digital? We've in recent years bought devices that use mp3's or FLAC's that are downloaded from the device manufacturers systems on the device over wifi and are tied to a physical object with an NFC tag on it to initiate playback - it's actually kinda liberating to not have everything as a Spotify playlist all the time
[17:08] <daftykins> Myrtti: oh interesting, so their own platform allows a cache? i've still not touched streaming music and still have all my local FLAC, but i must admit my interest in music has waned hugely since my 20s
[17:08] <daftykins> often just sit working in silence
[17:08] <daftykins> well i just had a call that explains one client going off the radar, a fallen tree took the overhead phone line with it!