[01:42] <derek[] > anna, sorry, 'sudo -i'
[01:42] <derek[] > anna, oh
[01:42] <derek[] > weird
[01:42] <anna> okay, im totally confused ^^
[01:42] <derek[] > anna, do: ls -a /media/sda1
[01:43] <derek[] > anna, and  please learn to use the pastebin, (I told you how). It will be useful.
[01:43] <pl_ice> hey, u guys know how to setup gnome to show random pic as desktop backgrd ? kde has this...
[01:44] <anna> wickedpuppy http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5414 this should be the link..
[01:44] <gib8> hi
[01:44] <shadukan> try xscreensaver....
[01:45] <wickedpuppy> anna, i only see debootstrap_settings ...
[01:45] <wickedpuppy> where is DCIM ?
[01:45] <maffju> anna, you are in /root
[01:45] <taga123> :)
[01:45] <gib8> i read that u can use the num-lock leds for showing networktraffic, is this also possible to show if there is some r/w onto the hd? becouse on laptop i see this and on my workstation i have to knee down to take a look on the lamp when it lags ;)
[01:45] <maffju> anna type: cd /media/sda1/DCIM
[01:45] <derek[] > I told her to cd into the directory so many times
[01:46] <maffju> derek[] , i know ;)
[01:46] <anna>  derek[]   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5415
[01:46] <pl_ice> xscreensaver is a screen saver ... :/
[01:46] <anna> im sorry ;(
[01:46] <wickedpuppy> well there is DCIM alright
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> derek[] , pls take things easy :P she seems to be very new to linux
[01:47] <derek[] > anna, ok. Now do this: ls -a /media/sda1/DCIM
[01:47] <shadukan> pl_ice: but it has configuration utility...;p
[01:47] <derek[] > wickedpuppy, ;)
[01:47] <pl_ice> c'mon we love linux chicks :D
[01:47] <pl_ice> shadukan ok, will look at it :D
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> how she got root is mystery ... i volunteer to spank the guy who taught how to use root to a newbie
[01:48] <derek[] > wickedpuppy, there's a link to it in the menu
[01:48] <pl_ice> cracker chick :/ even better
[01:48] <anna> derek[]  , sorry, that doesnt work..  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5416
[01:49] <hns> cannot load XkbLayout "us_intl", only us, anyone any idea
[01:49] <anna> wickedpuppy im afraid myself.. i think you can damage many thing, when you are root and dont know what you do ..
[01:50] <derek[] > anna, hm. I don't understand that, sorry
[01:50] <maffju> anna, oops, that looks bad
[01:50] <maffju> anna, are the batteries ok?
[01:50] <TD|Gaute> anna: I'll spank you if you want ;-)
[01:50] <Insipid> oh god..
[01:50] <anna> what does spank mean?
[01:50] <taga123> be  gentel
[01:50] <taga123> gentle
[01:50] <eth42> Has anyone got problems with cdrecord (or any program which uses it, i.e. any cd burning problem)? I cannot set the speed manually. It always uses the max speed.
[01:50] <anna> batterys are okay, yes..
[01:50] <derek[] > anna, nevermind that
[01:51] <TD|Gaute> Anyone here with a widescreen monitor? Is it easy to configure with Ubuntu 5.10 (1280x768)?
[01:51] <derek[] > eth42, use xcdroast.. or smth like that
[01:51] <maffju> anna, i think it's best to reconnect the phone - i once had a similar problem
[01:51] <pl_ice> eth42 k3b? ...
[01:51] <Ng> TD|Gaute: you may need to edit the xorg.conf, but it should be fairly easy
[01:51] <czr> hello, a quick question, are there any ppl working here with kickstart?
[01:51] <derek[] > TD|Gaute, I've heard ubuntu works well on a wide screen
[01:51] <Ng> TD|Gaute: I know a couple of people with 1680x1050 monitors and they did it very easily
[01:51] <TD|Gaute> Ng, manually? Just add the resolution?
[01:52] <Ng> TD|Gaute: in theory, yes, X ought to be able to figure out the details for itself
[01:52] <eth42> pl_ice: yes, i first encountered the problems with k3b.
[01:52] <Ng> you very rarely need to write a full manual modeline these days
[01:52] <anna> maffju should i just pull the cable and the connect it again?
[01:52] <pl_ice> eth42 but when u press 'refresh' in k3b it's ok, u can set i manualy, that whats happens to me
[01:52] <TD|Gaute> OK. Cool. I'm trying to find a silent desktop to use with my LCD TV :-)
[01:52] <eth42> pl_ice: refresh?
[01:52] <allison_1984> anna > plug in your line and restart the puter
[01:53] <Ng> TD|Gaute: EPIA systems are quite nifty, very small and quiet
[01:53] <maffju> anna, first type: umount /media/sda1
[01:53] <maffju> anna, then pull the cable and reconnect
[01:53] <Ng> TD|Gaute: i have an EPIA M10000 next to my tv for playing movies and browsing the web and stuff :)
[01:53] <TD|Gaute> Ng, I'll probably build my own out of some old stuff at work.
[01:53] <pl_ice> eth42 just before u burn the cd, there is a podown where u can chose the speed, next to it is a blue'arrow' that's to refresh, it's gonna determine cd
[01:53] <pl_ice> cd's speed
[01:53] <Insipid> my comps run like monsters
[01:54] <TD|Gaute> I just want it for internet banking and mail.
[01:54] <eth42> pl_ice: I see.
[01:54] <anna> maffju, i dont want to be root ;) can you tell me how to stop beeing root?
[01:54] <eth42> pl_ice: But I can actually choose 1x, for example
[01:54] <maffju> anna, type: exit
[01:54] <maffju> anna, or STRG-D
[01:54] <Insipid> somebody did read the beginners guide to linux
[01:54] <Insipid> didnt
[01:54] <anna> thank you ;)
[01:54] <eth42> pl_ice: it then says that either the burner or the media doesn't support 1x (!!) and it therefore has to burn at 8x (which is the media's max speed)
[01:55] <Xamusk> how much "stable" are dapper's iso?
[01:55] <pl_ice> hm, strange :D maybe ur cd's are buggered
[01:55] <eth42> pl_ice: and this results in errors. :-(
[01:55] <BigKahuna> Anybody using the V4L driver with ubuntu?
[01:55] <anna> maffju okay i just reconnected the phone..
[01:55] <eth42> BigKahuna: is there *the* V4L driver? I thought it's a library...
[01:55] <maffju> anna, try again: ls /media/sda1/DCIM
[01:56] <pl_ice> eth42 have u tried with other blank cd's?
[01:56] <anna> okay, it says directory not found..
[01:56] <dcs> how to use fetchmail to get mail from a maildrop box
[01:56] <Insipid> what anna needs to realize is that it is case sentitive
[01:56] <derek[] > anna, do: mount  , and paste the output
[01:56] <derek[] > anna, not here ;)
[01:56] <eth42> pl_ice: yes, with blank cd-r, cd-rw, dvd-r, dvd-rw, dvd+r, .... do you think I should try dvd+rw? :-)
[01:57] <BigKahuna> eth42, Actually, that what I was hoping someone could explain for me.
[01:57] <dcs> how to find help for fetchmail
[01:57] <eth42> BigKahuna: I think V4L is a library, and drivers (e.g. for tv-cards or webcams) are written compliant to that library
[01:57] <pl_ice> um, i guess not, often i got back packet of dvd's but if u tried so many; not sure hey; hm, other programs show the same? there is nero for linux 'floating' around u can try that
[01:57] <dcs> is there any body who knows about fetchmail
[01:58] <anna> derek[]   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5417 ;)
[01:58] <derek[] > anna, are you sure you're typing DCIM , and not dcim ?
[01:58] <derek[] > anna, ok
[01:58] <Insipid> derek[] :  I already said that :)
[01:58] <derek[] > Insipid, yes, but not to her directly :)
[01:58] <BigKahuna> eth42, I have been tinkering with my PVR card and finally have it working with the IVTV driver. Then I here about V4L, all I can figure out from the official wiki is that it is an API. Which doesnt really help me.
[01:58] <anna> yes, im not typing anything, i just copy what you write..
[01:58] <eth42> pl_ice: yes, I think it is a bug in Ubuntu's cdrecord. But probably it's only with my drive... *shrug*
[01:58] <derek[] > anna, ok
[01:59] <eth42> BigKahuna: haven't you found any tutorial for your PVR card?
[01:59] <GaveUp> hey guys.  I've got a intel 2200bg wifi adapter in my laptop and I'm trying to setup ubuntu to connect to my ap that uses wpa2-psk tkip but following some forum posts i keep getting driver doesn't support messages...anyone have any ideas what i'm doing wrong?
[01:59] <eth42> BigKahuna: and what's IVTV?
[01:59] <pl_ice> eth42 don't worry lately i can't open movies i burn nor burn over 4.2 gigs dvd's thats life :D
[01:59] <poningru> so question regarding md5sum how does one get the md5sum of couple of words?
[01:59] <derek[] > hm.. anna, your phone is not mounted
[02:00] <eth42> pl_ice: hey, it's almost 2006 now and I cannot choose the burners speed, that's weird!
[02:00] <Insipid> she should read the mount man page
[02:00] <anna> derek[]  if you say so =^_^=
[02:00] <eth42> BigKahuna: maybe your IVTV is a V4L driver?
[02:00] <pl_ice>  hehe
[02:00] <BigKahuna> eth42, Yes I found a HowTo, IVTV project to develop drivers specifically for my type of PVR card (hauppauge).
[02:00] <derek[] > anna, last time it was
[02:01] <derek[] > anna, under /media/sda1
[02:01] <pl_ice> u guys konow where is taht setting for xscreensaver to put random desktop backgrounds?
[02:01] <anna> sometimes i think, linux is to difficult for me..
[02:01] <pl_ice> anna u not alone :) first steps are the worst
[02:01] <eth42> BigKahuna: ivtvdriver.org?
[02:01] <Insipid> anna:  Why are you using it?
[02:01] <derek[] > anna, nevertheless, don't get discouraged
[02:01] <Insipid> I honestly think if she isnt going to RTFM then she should go back to windows or OSX
[02:02] <anna> Insipid because i like it, i like the idea behind ubuntu
[02:02] <derek[] > anna, great!!
[02:02] <anna> derek[]  thank you ;)
[02:02] <BigKahuna> eth42, Yah
[02:02] <derek[] > Bitte! ;)
[02:02] <maffju> anna, do you see sda1 if you click "places"/"orte" > "Computer"?
[02:02] <eth42> BigKahuna: maybe entering Load "v4l" into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf already helps
[02:02] <rudiz> anna, ubuntu ist super!
[02:03] <julo> hi
[02:03] <pl_ice> english ...
[02:03] <anna> erm.. there is "sony ericsson memory stick"
[02:03] <eth42> BigKahuna: v4l should already be compiled into Ubuntu's kernel I guess
[02:03] <czr> hmm, anyone know about using kickstart with ubuntu?
[02:03] <eth42> BigKahuna: at least I seem to use it
[02:03] <maffju> anna, right-click and select "mount" (if it's there)
[02:03] <anna> rudiz yes, and its free.. unlike windows..
[02:03] <anna> okay.
[02:03] <eth42> BigKahuna: (Hauppauge analogous tv-card)
[02:03] <maffju> anna, try to double-click it
[02:04] <julo> Could anyone do a simple test for me ? -> launch alacarte, uncheck gedit, right-click on a text file, choose "open in another app", and see whether gedit is listed in the apps list.
[02:04] <BigKahuna> eth42, Yup, thats what Im using.
[02:04] <julo> thanks
[02:04] <eth42> BigKahuna: what's your problem now? the driver is loaded
[02:04] <BigKahuna> I guess the IVTV driver must need the V4l api? just guessing.
[02:04] <eth42> BigKahuna: I think it already uses it
[02:05] <maffju> anna, any errors?
[02:05] <eth42> BigKahuna: does lsmod list your ivtv driver?
[02:05] <anna> maffju there was no mount-button but (in german "einbinden") i could integrate it
[02:05] <maffju> anna, can you enter the DCIM folder?
[02:06] <BigKahuna> eth42, Yes.
[02:06] <Insipid> anna: yes integrate it
[02:06] <anna> maffju yes
[02:06] <maffju> anna, see your pictures?
[02:06] <anna> no..
[02:06] <anna> but i do have pictures on the phone ;)
[02:06] <Insipid> nothing is in the directory at all?
[02:06] <maffju> anna, the DCIM folder is empty?
[02:07] <anna> yes
[02:07] <eth42> so, I think now you can use your card. As the howto tells: use ptune-ui or ivtv-tune to tune the channel and cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg
[02:07] <Insipid> maffju: Directory!!! :)
[02:07] <eth42> BigKahuna: so, I think now you can use your card. As the howto tells: use ptune-ui or ivtv-tune to tune the channel and cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg
[02:07] <maffju> Insipid, sorry ;)
[02:07] <chrisx1> hey i go to install xfce and i mark all for install and it says make sure u have all the repos... anyideas?
[02:07] <Insipid> the world folder brings back bad memories
[02:07] <BigKahuna> eth42, Yeah thanks.
[02:08] <eth42> BigKahuna: cool!
[02:09] <anna> maffju could it be possible, that i just saved the pictures in the wrong place?
[02:10] <feg> hello, i cant hear anything with flash plugin on breezy
[02:10] <rudiz> anna, look at the desktop
[02:10] <feg> is it a known prob?
[02:10] <maffju> anna, sorry, i don't know anything about your mobile phone...
[02:10] <pl_ice> u guys know how to throw randowm picture on desktop background?
[02:10] <BigKahuna> eth42, Last question, just tried to install MoTV. When I try and run the application it says a library is missing. Should all the dependencies not have been checked before installing, I used apt.
[02:10] <anna> maffju oops.. sorry, i thought you got the same ;)
[02:11] <Insipid> maffju: gnu/linux is getting too user friendly :)
[02:11] <maffju> anna, unfortunately not ;)
[02:11] <anna> rudiz sorry, i dont get what you mean ..
[02:11] <maffju> Insipid, ;)
[02:12] <Insipid> maffju:  I remember when someone told me about linux years ago and i installed debian for the first time... WOW.. so many nights spent reading man pages...
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> wow. that's a slpit
[02:12] <pl_ice> server split :D
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> whao
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb all
[02:12] <rudiz> anna,http://www.ubuntuusers.de/
[02:12] <aftertaf> manyeah....................
[02:12] <chrisx1> hey i go to install xfce and i mark all for install and it says make sure u have all the repos... anyideas?
[02:13] <pl_ice> chrisx1 run apt-get install it will tell u more info ...
[02:13] <chrisx1> ok
[02:13] <aftertaf> chrisx1:  compare your repos to the official ones, do you have all enabled?
[02:13] <aftertaf> !repos
[02:13] <ubotu> repos is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:13] <chrisx1> will in a sec
[02:13] !lilo:*! Small main rotation server routing problem; affected users, about 2,400.... we're looking at it now.
[02:13] <chrisx1> on phone
[02:13] <anna> rudiz okay, but i know this site.. what do you want me to do? ;)
[02:13] <taga123> wow
[02:13] <taga123> is  that  a meteor   falling
[02:13] <rudiz> put your question there
[02:14] <Insipid> anyone here big on nvidia?
[02:14] <aftertaf> !nvidia
[02:14] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:14] <Insipid> dont even give me that **** link
[02:14] <_mindspin> anna: what's your question?
[02:14] <Insipid> im tried of reading it :)
[02:14] <christian_> now, i formatted my new disk... how can i add it into resources menu?
[02:14] <pl_ice> Insipid what card u got?
[02:15] <Insipid> nvidia geforce 5200 pci
[02:15] <anna> _mindspin how to get the pictures of my mobile phone via usb cable ;)
[02:15] <_mindspin> on hoary or breezy?
[02:15] <anna> rudiz okay.. but i have to register..
[02:15] <Insipid> running the latest nvidia package.. installed and working correctly... except it performs worse than a geforce 2 mx
[02:15] <pl_ice> :D
[02:15] <pl_ice> what's ur fps?
[02:16] <gib8> Insipid, hi is yours usb working?
[02:16] <Insipid> my geforce 2 mx ran ut2004 on debian with 30 fps... my 5200 is about 8 fps when im staring at a wall
[02:16] <gib8> Insipid, and do u have an nvidia,nforce based mainboard?
[02:16] <pl_ice> hey, it should be in thousands ...
[02:16] <Insipid> VIA
[02:16] <Insipid> pl_ice: wtf are you smoking
[02:17] <pl_ice> fps, 8 i when u don't have drivers correctly
[02:17] <rudiz> annano
[02:17] <gib8> mhh
[02:17] <pl_ice> *is
[02:17] <rudiz> anna, no
[02:17] <aitor> hola
[02:17] <aitor> alguien con guadalinex v3 beta2 ????? please
[02:18] <Insipid> pl_ice:  ut2004 is much more complicated than glxgears.. its not going to run 1000 fps on even the most godly machines.. you want my glxgears fps which is not a benchmark
[02:18] <pl_ice> yeh, pretty muc
[02:18] <pl_ice> *much
[02:18] <Insipid> pl_ice: it should be running 40 frames per second in deep action
[02:18] <Insipid> with high settings
[02:19] <pl_ice> Insipid did u post it on the forum?
[02:19] <Insipid> and YES i know for an absolute fact the drivers are installed correctly :)  something may be configured wrong, but its nothing as obvious as #Load DRI so i dont wanna see that please
[02:19] <Insipid> no ive seen someone else do it any not get answered why should i
[02:20] <pl_ice> Insipid , try it, someone will, if not jump to #linux
[02:20] <Insipid> ill probably just go back debian
[02:20] <gudi> gi
[02:20] <gudi> hi
[02:20] <pl_ice> Insipid glad i don't play games ;)
[02:21] <derek[] > how to get the list of running applications?
[02:21] <feg> hi, im using breezy. i have no sound with flash plugin in firefox. can you help e please?
[02:22] <BigKahuna> when launching an application (MOTV) i get en error saying a library does not exist (
[02:22] <BigKahuna> libXm.so.3) but I can see the library in /usr/XR11R6/lib. Any ideas?
[02:22] <Insipid> pl_ice:  hell in debian when i recompiled my kernel, and use the nvidia kernel module it ran great on a geforce 2..
[02:22] <Insipid> ubuntu is so fing automated i dont even know where to begin looking for conflicts
[02:22] <kestas> for some reason Im not getting any sounds from flash?
[02:22] <kestas> in 5.10
[02:23] <anna> maffju can i register my nickname somewhere=?
[02:23] <kestas> anyone know how I can fix it?
[02:23] <BigKahuna> kestas, There are a couple of fixes for that on the wiki, have you tried?
[02:23] <john_> kestas, /etc/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefoxrc (change auto to none)
[02:23] <BigKahuna> kestas, Search 'restricted formats'
[02:23] <pl_ice> Insipid yeh, i'm thinking jump to deb. but can't be asked
[02:23] <anna> maffju , the programm keeps on blocking private messages.. dont know why..
[02:24] <kestas> john_, still nothing
[02:24] <maffju> anna, one moment ...
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> !register
[02:24] <ubotu> hmm... register is type /msg nickserv help register
[02:25] <john_> kestas, did you restart firefox? do you have other sounds going off?
[02:25] <john_> if you answered yes and no then you are doing something wrong
[02:25] <maffju> anna, type (here): /msg nickserv register passwd
[02:25] <maffju> anna, passwd is your passwd
[02:25] <anna> maffju but i dont have a password..
[02:25] <kestas> john_, nope
[02:26] <maffju> anna, you can choose one! :)
[02:26] <derek[] > anybody used gnokii ?
[02:26] <kestas> and yes I restarted it
[02:26] <anna> maffju ah okay ;)
[02:26] <pl_ice> derek[]  yeh, me
[02:26] <kestas> maybe I need to install flash as root instead of just a user
[02:26] <john_> kestas, what do you mean nope
[02:26] <john_> search synaptic for it
[02:26] <anna> maffju .. this wont work, because the nickname anna is allready registered..
[02:27] <derek[] > pl_ice, cool. I get an error: Couldn't open /home/derek/.gnokiirc config file,
[02:27] <maffju> anna, arg -- do you mind changing your nick?
[02:27] <Insipid> anna i guess that means you don't exist
[02:27] <Insipid> sorry
[02:27] <pl_ice> derek[]  do a search for that file, think it's in /etc/ then copy it to ur dir (with  .) but it still should read the global file in /etc
[02:27] <maffju> anna, type: /nick yournewnick
[02:27] <Stonekeeper> hi. Does anyone know where perl-gtk lives?
[02:27] <Insipid> so long, and thanks for all the fish
[02:27] <Insipid> lol
[02:27] <anna> maffju no, you can choose one for me (=
[02:28] <pl_ice> Insipid :D
[02:28] <derek[] > pl_ice, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5419
[02:28] <martii> hello
[02:28] <martii> there is pretty nasty problem with keyboard layout in breezy
[02:28] <Insipid> anna: anna_rulez
[02:28] <martii> I try to have more than one layout
[02:28] <martii> and it looks like it's impossible to do
[02:28] <derek[] > anna_
[02:28] <derek[] > anna, try: anna_
[02:29] <Insipid> anna:  or omglookitsanna_
[02:29] <derek[] > lol
[02:29] <anna> Insipid well.. im not shure about this one *haha
[02:29] <pl_ice> derek[]  never had that error :D
[02:29] <derek[] > pl_ice, dang.. I just installed gnokii and got this error
[02:29] <pl_ice> there is an option to give full error output look in man
[02:29] <martii> then I get infromation "The typing monitor is already running"
[02:29] <martii> after I try to add more layouts
[02:30] <maffju> anna_, cool
[02:30] <pl_ice> derek[]  u have to edit that file and change it for ur needs, there is a good description on the forum
[02:30] <derek[] > pl_ice, which file?
[02:30] <maffju> anna_, now /msg nickserv register passwd
[02:30] <derek[] > pl_ice, it doesn't exist
[02:30] <Insipid> WOAH, i got a paper due in like 2 hours what am I doing!!!?
[02:31] <derek[] > pl_ice, only .gnokii-errors exists
[02:31] <pl_ice> .gnokiirc
[02:31] <pl_ice> derek[]  man gnokii :D
[02:31] <anna_> yahoo ^^
[02:31] <Insipid> *runs*
[02:31] <djk_> Insipid: trying to get on bash.org with that?
[02:31] <anna_> my very own nickname *haha
[02:31] <derek[] > gedammit.. why the heck can I not type the tilde sign >>>>>>>>>.<<<<<<<<<
[02:31] <maffju> anna_, congratulation
[02:31] <pl_ice> anna_ cong.
[02:31] <derek[] > anna_, Felicitation!
[02:31] <anna_> derek[]   ~
[02:32] <aftertaf> ~~~~
[02:32] <anna_> thanks ^^
[02:32] <derek[] > anna_, I know.. I just can't do it from my end anymore
[02:32] <derek[] > and here's the problem:
[02:32] <tsw> derek[] : just copy paste from here ~ ;)
[02:32] <Insipid> djk_:  sure why not
[02:32] <anna_> derek[]  sorry, that was a joke ;)
[02:32] <derek[] > For some reason I'm not anymore able to type tilde.. whether with pressing shift or without it, only `, after I installed other input modes in linux. Why is that?
[02:32] <derek[] > np anna_
[02:32] <aftertaf> derek[] :  you're on the wrong locales maybe?
[02:33] <djk_> Insipid: I thought so.
[02:33] <Insipid> djk_:  actually, i really gotta go.. its really due ill be back soon
[02:33] <derek[] > aftertaf, how do I find out?
[02:33] <aftertaf> er, i dunno.... :/
[02:33] <derek[] > :\
[02:34] <anna_> maffju should i paste the output in pastebin?
[02:36] <derek[] > pl_ice, the man page doesn't help me. I can't first of all get it working
[02:36] <derek[] > pl_ice, the output I showed you was of gnokii --identify
[02:36] <BigKahuna> when removing an application how to ensure all previously installed dependencies are also removed. apt-get remove only seems to remove the package with the name specified.
[02:37] <pl_ice> derek[]  u have to configure first gnokii, looks like it's trying to connect via cable, not ir etc
[02:38] <derek[] > pl_ice, yes cable, DKU5
[02:38] <pl_ice> derek[]  have u found that config file?
[02:38] <derek[] > pl_ice, no , not in /home/derek
[02:38] <Chizn> does anyone here have the problem where a vfat partition will be remounted (oddly) from read and write to read only attributes?
[02:38] <Chizn> what does that mean?
[02:38] <[cro] smiley> how to make gdesklets be on top of other windows?
[02:38] <pl_ice> derek[]  so edit the main one, it's ok it will use global config insted of local(in ur chome)
[02:39] <derek[] > pl_ice, ok, where is it?
[02:39] <oblonski> hi htere
[02:39] <pl_ice> derek[]  i have to fire up my laptop :/ can't u search for it?
[02:40] <derek[] > pl_ice, I'm new to linux
[02:40] <derek[] > pl_ice, tell me the commands
[02:40] <derek[] > pl_ice, and the file is .gnokiirc ?
[02:40] <saik0> how would I format my /boot partition and re-install grub (debian installer style)
[02:40] <pl_ice> find / -name "filename"
[02:41] <derek[] > exact filename?
[02:41] <Elektrochelovek> derek[] , try 'rm -Rf ./' will fix enything
[02:41] <pl_ice> Elektrochelovek piss off
[02:41] <derek[] > Elektrochelovek, that was very rude
[02:41] <derek[] > you sound like a Microsoft ambassador
[02:41] <saik0> Ban worthy...IMO
[02:41] <derek[] > yes, ban!
[02:41] <Ng> !ops
[02:41] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[02:41] <Chizn> out for blood
[02:42] <Elektrochelovek> apoligies, i coulnd conrol myself;] ]
[02:42] <sml> i have never had sich a painful experience with passwords & security in 5 years of linux use!
[02:42] <pl_ice> :/
[02:42] <saik0> Seveas saves the day!
[02:42] <Hoxzer> tell me guys how can I mess up twice with the backups?
[02:42] <Seveas> saik0, derek[] , calling out for a ban is not don, simply use the !ops trigger
[02:43] <saik0> Seveas, was'nt aware, noted. and thanks
[02:43] <Seveas> Hoxzer, rm -rf backup/; rm -rf backup/
[02:43] <Seveas> that'll mess it up twice
[02:43] <derek[] > Seveas, okay.
[02:43] <Seveas> Hoxzer, but what was the real problem? :)
[02:43] <sml> are there any ubuntu based distro's out there with normal security?
[02:43] <pl_ice> sml what
[02:43] <pl_ice> 's the problem?
[02:44] <Seveas> [cro] smiley, <shift><f12>
[02:44] <Seveas> BigKahuna, debfoster is your friend
[02:44] <XPefdMe> my windows machine ate everything :(
[02:44] <Hoxzer> Seveas: I lost knoppmyths XF86Config-4
[02:44] <sml> my new account always asks "to change my password immediately"  that is the first problem.
[02:44] <Hoxzer> now I can only boot in TV-out form :D
[02:44] <Seveas> Hoxzer, unless you use warty you don't need it
[02:44] <Hoxzer> no so nice to do Graphical settings
[02:44] <XPefdMe> I am going ot try Linux
[02:45] <Hoxzer> problem is with knoppmyth ;(
[02:45] <XPefdMe> should I download breezy badger or Dapper drake?
[02:45] <XPefdMe> which is better?
[02:45] <Hoxzer> ubuntu has nonthing to do with this
[02:45] <pl_ice> sml when? :> strange...
[02:45] <Seveas> XPefdMe, breezy
[02:45] <XPefdMe> ok
[02:45] <sml> pl_ice .. so I change the password and login ok
[02:45] <Seveas> dapper is very much in development and broken :)
[02:45] <sml> pl_ice .. all looks ok ...
[02:45] <Hoxzer> is it possible that I backup my Xorg.conf and copy it to knoppmyth as XF86Config-4?
[02:45] <XPefdMe> I am downloading it, it will be done in 14 minutes
[02:45] <XPefdMe> I will be back soon
[02:45] <aftertaf> Seveas:  yeah, and its fun that way :]
[02:45] <pl_ice> sml never happened to me, can u post it on ubuntuforums.org /security ?
[02:46] <sml> pl_ice .. i have tried editing with visudo
[02:46] <[cro] smiley> Seveas, i tryed it doesnt work
[02:46] <coz> hello all
[02:46] <Chizn> is it possible for a partition to remount itself as read-only randomly?
[02:46] <Seveas> Chizn, only if it's broken and errors are occurring
[02:46] <Chizn> ahh.. how would i tell?
[02:46] <pl_ice> sml i don't know what u have done, but it's not soupossed to b like that ...
[02:47] <Seveas> Chizn, syslog/kern.log should give hints
[02:47] <aftertaf> Chizn:  or if your distro is a certain window-type one from redmond ;)
[02:47] <saik0> Seveas: How would I install grub into an empty partition?
[02:47] <sml> pl_ice .. yea the previous times I have used ubuntu it has been ok
[02:47] <[cro] smiley> Seveas, it worked in the beginning, but then i changed shortcut and it doesnt work anymore
[02:47] <Seveas> saik0, grub-install /dev/your_partition
[02:47] <Seveas> [cro] /ban 85.186.*
[02:47] <Seveas> damn you keyboard
[02:47] <pl_ice> sml please post all errors on forum /security ...
[02:47] <Seveas> pl_ice, why?
[02:47] <Chizn> right ok, cool, thanks
[02:47] <Seveas> this is IRC, not the forum
[02:48] <Dr_Acemaster> how do you copy the time stamp along with text in xchat?
[02:48] <saik0> Seveas, that puts all the init-rds, kernels, and config stuff in it?
[02:48] <sml> Seveas .. any chance buddy of a few mins please?
[02:48] <derek[] > pl_ice,  derek@linux:/usr/share/xgnokii/help/en_US/sample$ ls
[02:48] <derek[] > gnokiirc
[02:48] <pl_ice> ok, Seveas help him :) i'm off to bewd
[02:48] <pl_ice> *bed
[02:48] <sml> :)
[02:48] <Seveas> g'night
[02:48] <derek[] > pl_ice, hang on
[02:48] <sml> thanks pl_ice
[02:48] <pl_ice> derek[]  try using gammu, i found it much better package :D
[02:48] <Seveas> saik0, no, it installs grub
[02:48] <derek[] > pl_ice, ok
[02:48] <coz> I use a wacom tablet, is it possible to debug this in ubuntu
[02:48] <pl_ice> than gnokii
[02:49] <Chizn> Dec  5 13:35:18 localhost kernel: [4417669.913000]  FAT: Filesystem panic (dev hda5)
[02:49] <Chizn> what does that mean!?
[02:49] <[cro] smiley> Seveas, i tried to reinstall gdesklets but it doesnt help:( any ideas?
[02:49] <XPefdMe> Ok, I have backedup up what documents remain onto a CD, and plan to purge windows from my machine
[02:49] <christian_> now, i formatted my new disk... how can i add it into resources menu?
[02:49] <Seveas> [cro] smiley, change the shortcut key back?
[02:50] <Seveas> Chizn, it means that the filesystem on the disk is busted
[02:50] <Seveas> Chizn, boot into windows and run chkdsk
[02:50] <[cro] smiley> Seveas, shift + F12 nothing happens
[02:50] <Chizn> i dont have windows :oS
[02:50] <Seveas> Chizn, then why do you have a FAT partition?!?
[02:50] <saik0> Seveas ok..well what happened was I was running debian on this machine and edited the menu by hand...i just want the automagic kernel list working for ubuntu and not debian
[02:51] <coz> Does anyone use a wacom tablet here?
[02:51] <Chizn> cuz i like them...? lol
[02:51] <pl_ice>  bed time bie :D
[02:51] <aftertaf> Chizn:  do you HAVE a fat partiton?
[02:51] <[cro] smiley> bie
[02:51] <Seveas> Chizn, you're masochistic or foolish
[02:51] <Seveas> fat partitions are stupid to use on libux
[02:51] <Chizn> probably a bit of both
[02:51] <Seveas> linux even
[02:51] <Chizn> i have a fat 32 partition, yes aftertaf
[02:52] <_jason> Chizn, what do you like about them??
[02:52] <Chizn> lol, i find it funny that you guys are freaking out over me using a fat partition in linux, are they really that bad?
[02:52] <Seveas> Chizn, yes
[02:53] <Chizn> i like how if i change my mind and move back to windows, i dont have to piss about with 50 odd gigs of data
[02:53] <Chizn> but.. i cant see that happening..
[02:53] <Chizn> its not possible to just convert fat to ext3 is it without losing everything
[02:53] <Seveas> (un?)fortunately not
[02:54] <solka> !nvidia
[02:54] <saik0> Chizn, not unless you have another box, HDD, or maybe a CD spindle and far too much time
[02:54] <Chizn> so i guess that another reason for it being fat, the fact it was fat when it got filled with all this data and not being able to convert it, it just stayed like that
[02:55] <saik0> seeing as how tou're the foolish/masochistic type =)
[02:55] <Chizn> yea, lol
[02:55] <Chizn> i will probably look into that
[02:55] <Chizn> this read only switch is starting to irk my turkey
[02:56] <Chizn> could i do a chkdsk from vmware or do i need a physical windows install?
[02:56] <saik0> Chizn, o_O FAT32 is writable
[02:56] <Chizn> yea not when it kicks up a PANIC in the kernel
[02:56] <Chizn> it makes it read-only.. :o(
[02:57] <Chizn> then i have to umount and mount again and its fine then it goes again later on
[02:57] <saik0> Chizn, fsck /dev/foo
[02:57] <Seveas> Chizn, fsck.vfat might work too
[02:57] <Chizn> what does that do?
[02:57] <Chizn> oh yea, we have man pages, lol
[02:58] <Seveas> gna :/
[02:58] <saik0> Did anyobody else just see that? infitity billion quit messages?
[02:58] <deltron> lol
[02:58] <Seveas> saik0, relax, just a netsplit
[02:58] <deltron> it's called a netsplit :)
[02:58] <XPefdMe> that is called a netsplit
[02:58] <Chizn> yea, it was a netspliiit
[02:58] <deltron> lol
[02:58] <XPefdMe> LOL
[02:59] <Chizn> yakky things
[02:59] <XPefdMe> lets not all answer at once :)
[02:59] <Seveas> you'll see about this many join messages
[02:59] <deltron> that's why you run irssi-text so it doesn't show you all the messages
[02:59] <saik0> you call it netsplit, i call it 'infinity billion quit messages'
[02:59] !lilo:*! That main rotation server has been removed from rotation, and we'll be shutting it down for now. Affected users: about 2262
[03:00] <XPefdMe> saik0 this happens because one of the servers lost its connection to the server we are on
[03:00] <Chizn> you can fsck a fat partition?
[03:00] <XPefdMe> so the network SPLIT
[03:00] <XPefdMe> and the people logged into that server, left the channel here
[03:00] <XPefdMe> but there is a copy of the channel on their server, that says ALL OF US split
[03:00] <aftertaf> chan became dual
[03:01] <XPefdMe> now that would be a million billion thingys
[03:01] <sml> Seveas .. can you help with this root / su / visudo problem ?
[03:01] <saik0> Now, can someone tell me how to get the debian automagic kernels working if you dont install grub at installation and edit the menu from an existing one?
[03:01] <XPefdMe> bbiaw
[03:01] <sml> I have googled for hours
[03:01] <Seveas> sml, what's the problem? unable to sudo?
[03:01] <Seveas> ooh
[03:01] <Seveas> this is bad
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> waho
[03:01] <aftertaf> funky chicken dance
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> never had freenode like this
[03:01] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol ubotu
[03:01] <Seveas> Kamping_Kaiser, ghe, it's been worse a few weeks ago
[03:02] <sml> I am always asked to change my password ,, when I try to run an admin tool, it says "child terminated with 1 status"
[03:02] <saik0> this is gonna hurt
[03:02] <sml> Seveas .. i have tried visudo with no luck
[03:03] <Seveas> sml, sudo echo foo
[03:03] <Seveas> what's the output of that
[03:03] <sml> foo
[03:03] <Chizn> heh, glooobal
[03:03] <Seveas> then sudo works :)
[03:03] <sml> that's all
[03:03] <deltron> doh
[03:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> brb. reconnecting to the network
[03:03] <Seveas> sml, /etc/sudoers on the pastebin please
[03:03] <deltron> server we were on split lol
[03:03] <Seveas> btw, gotta go for half an hour
[03:03] <aftertaf> !funky
[03:03] <ubotu> funky is probably Get up,  (git awn up),   Get up,  (git awn up),  Stay on the scene (git awn up)..... like an ubuntu machine,  (git awn up). yeah granddaddy of funk :]
[03:04] <Chizn> that was pretty quick response to the routing problem though
[03:04] <sml> Seveas .. i have no network connection as I cannot get into the gui networking tool
[03:05] <sml> Seveas but the file is ..
[03:05] <saik0> sml, you're on IRC.....
[03:06] <sml> Seveas ... # User priv ... root ALL=(ALL) ALL .. # Member of the ... %admin ALL=ALL(ALL) ALL
[03:06] <sml> saiko0 .. on my other notebook
[03:06] <sml> saiko0 .. working beautifully with archlinux :)
[03:06] <sml> saiko0 .. if only arch did a ppc distro for this iBook!!
[03:09] <chrisx1> hey
[03:09] <Skippy23> hello everybody
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[03:10] <Skippy23> hi kaiser
[03:10] <Skippy23> how are you
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> not bad. self?
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> skippy. lol@nic
[03:10] !lilo:*! reup in progress on that main rotation server on standby; affected users, about 2050
[03:10] <Skippy23> huh
[03:10] <saik0> sml, how does arch do with ease of installation?
[03:11] <Skippy23> hmm
[03:11] <sml> saiko0 ... i have found arch to be very smooth with about 5 different computers
[03:11] <sml> saiko0 .. the best thing is that if you do have a problem, then it is easier to resolve
[03:12] <saik0> sml, I'm partial to i686 binaries =)
[03:12] <sml> saiko0 .. have u tried arch?
[03:14] <saik0> sml, no cant say I have. but if you wanna continue this discussion msg me for the sake of the topic
[03:17] <sml> hmmm
[03:17] <S3xy_SBY> hiii ubunterosss
[03:17] <sml> saiko0 .. anyway .. I will install Dapper Drake and that should resolve this security problem !
[03:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> er
[03:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> wont solv that stability issue though
[03:19] <sml> breezy is not much good with this F&^$ed up security and sudo etc
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> what hole?
[03:20] <Skippy23> ubuntu is not that safe out of the box
[03:20] <Skippy23> :\
[03:20] <Ng> Skippy23: how do you figure that?
[03:20] <Skippy23> wrong rights
[03:20] <djk_> go on..
[03:21] <Skippy23> no iptables list
[03:21] <blue-frog> Skippy23, what do u need it for?
[03:21] <djk_> no open ports.
[03:21] <Skippy23> a newbie can,t handle iptables i ques
[03:21] <Skippy23> djk 22 25 111 and 631
[03:21] <djk_> Skippy23: a newbie can use firestarter.
[03:21] <Ng> Skippy23: by default there's nothing for iptables to protect, the only listening services are on lo
[03:22] <Skippy23> hmm
[03:22] <Ng> anything else? ;)
[03:22] <Skippy23> thats about it
[03:22] <Skippy23> :)
[03:22] <Ng> so, it's secure then :)
[03:23] <Skippy23> mwoah
[03:23] <aftertaf> lol
[03:23] <Skippy23> i use a older ubuntu version 4.10 and updating whas a problem
[03:23] <aftertaf> Skippy23:  xfree > xorg for one
[03:24] <djk_> Skippy23: updating to what
[03:24] <Skippy23> security updates
[03:26] <aftertaf> Skippy23:  tried going to hoary yet? then breezy ?
[03:27] <chrisx1> any1 help with "Some Packages have unresolvable dependences"
[03:27] <Skippy23> why 4.10 is fine
[03:27] <Lunz> Hi, can anyone recommend a program that does a timed shutdown of my system???
[03:27] <aftertaf> chrisx1:  reposiroty setup right, universe & multiverse?
[03:27] <chrisx1> not sure
[03:27] <aftertaf> Lunz:  shutdown does just that
[03:28] <aftertaf> man shutdown
[03:28] <chrisx1> i dont know what they should be
[03:28] <Lunz> really
[03:28] <djk_> Lunz: don't state the obvious ;)
[03:28] <aftertaf> chrisx1:  illpaste you one.
[03:28] <chrisx1> ok ty
[03:28] <djk_> eh,, crap,, aftertag ^^
[03:28] <djk_> ah damn it..
[03:28] <djk_> i meant aftertaf
[03:28] <Lunz> ok kool
[03:28] <chrisx1> dapper?
[03:31] <ScatterBrain> Any Samba+LDAP admins here?
[03:32] <saik0> ScatterBrain. you would probably have better luck in #samba. I know I did
[03:32] <ScatterBrain> saik0: Thanks...
[03:35] <Lunz> I wish there was a GUI program that could do the shut down.
[03:37] <aftertaf> djk_:  yeah..... rtfm ;)
[03:37] <aftertaf> Lunz:  learn to use and be happy with the console, it can be your best friend
[03:38] <Lunz> lol I know! I was a big fan of the MS DOS command prompt.
[03:38] <aa-aa> haueh
[03:38] <aa-aa> big fan of the MS DOS
[03:38] <aa-aa> ^^
[03:39] <OdeLon> Hi guys
[03:39] <aftertaf> wb OdeLon :)
[03:39] <OdeLon> Thanks afteraf
[03:39] <aftertaf> +t
[03:39] <Lunz> k guys take care c u soon.
[03:40] <aftertaf> :) Lunz
[03:40] <aa-aa> pena que nesse canal no haja nenhum brasileiro.. :P
[03:40] <OdeLon> I finally got past most of the problems I have - now apt-get install seems to die on some python scripts (Tools.py line 470)
[03:40] <OdeLon> It complains about invalid syntax
[03:41] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  did it get on the net?  and with which package do you have that error?
[03:41] <OdeLon> Not sure... it says 452 not fully installed or removed.
[03:41] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  ok, sudo apt-get -f install ......
[03:42] <OdeLon> Did that... and when it tries to install it complains about a syntax error in Tools.py
[03:42] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  pastebin the full error
[03:42] <OdeLon> It goes through several packages and then dies with too many errors
[03:42] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[03:42] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[03:43] <OdeLon> How can I start an x session from command line? How do I configure X?
[03:44] <trappist> OdeLon: startx and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:44] <sethk> OdeLon, startx
[03:44] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  startx
[03:44] <obsvuugj> OdeLon> to reconfigure sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:44] <OdeLon> startx doesn't even exist... tried that...
[03:44] <sethk> OdeLon, if startx doesn't exist, perhaps you didn't install X
[03:44] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  with 452 not fully configured, you're not yet there i imagine
[03:45] <Seveas> OdeLon, dpkg --configure --pending
[03:45] <aftertaf> sethk:  probs with install cd left him with console
[03:45] <OdeLon> I should think...
[03:45] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  try what Seveas said..
[03:45] <aftertaf> Seveas:  apt-get -f install  seems to die on some python scripts (Tools.py line 470)
[03:45] <OdeLon> Seveas: even this spews out errors
[03:46] <sethk> aftertaf, regardless, if startx doesn't exist, then the X install didn't complete
[03:46] <aftertaf> sethk:  i agree.. the thing is to get him past thos errors so that the other packages do install
[03:47] <sethk> aftertaf, then probably he has to uninstall something to get to a good state, then reinstall
[03:47] <aftertaf> the python package with the sytax error, then......
[03:48] <mark_> hey guys, can anyone help me in installing a espon c66 printer ?
[03:48] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  try again, and note the actual package name with the python errors.
[03:48] <OdeLon> It seems to choke when compiling Tools.py with a syntax error in that file.
[03:48] <aftertaf> tools.py is the package name?
[03:48] <OdeLon> It is happening with many packages.
[03:48] <aftertaf> oh ok.
[03:49] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  id get another install cd then.
[03:49] <OdeLon> Tried a couple... Should I remove python and retry?
[03:49] <aftertaf> i dont know what else could help
[03:49] <shining> how can I use screen in screen ?
[03:50] <Seveas> shining, C-a n
[03:50] <trappist> shining: set up a different control character
[03:50] <trappist> say, ctrl-f
[03:50] <Seveas> C-a c that is...
[03:50] <shining> no wait
[03:50] <trappist> that's not quite running screen in screen
[03:50] <shining> yep
[03:51] <shining> I use screen on my laptop
[03:51] <shining> inside it I ssh to my other box
[03:51] <shining> which has a screen session too
[03:51] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  i dont know what package you could remove for that......
[03:51] <Seveas> ah
[03:51] <Seveas> that's gonna be awkward :)
[03:51] <aftertaf> shining:  bind the next and prev keys to sth else in one of them
[03:51] <shining> yep I'll see how to do that, thanks
[03:52] <trappist> shining: use a different control character
[03:52] <aftertaf> trappist:  is right...
[03:52] <aftertaf> shining:  check your .screenrc
[03:52] <shining> I hope I can just add a bind
[03:52] <holycow> does anyone know if you can setup an email account in evolution to download all email to one mail folder?  evo seems to dump everything to a main inbox
[03:52] <shining> not overwrite the current one
[03:52] <aftertaf> !screen
[03:52] <ubotu> I guess screen is a terminal multiplexer http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen AND http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macgems/
[03:53] <trappist> shining: did I mention use another control character?
[03:53] <aftertaf> trappist:  you did..... ;P
[03:54] <trappist> screen -e^Ff for example
[03:54] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  or try again, reinstalling but use the server option for a minimum install, then get it on the net and apt-get your ubuntu-desktop
[03:54] <mark_> an anyone help me in adding a espon c66 printer ?
[03:55] <aftertaf> mark_:  cant you find it in print setup?
[03:55] <OdeLon> Will try if removing/reinstalling python won't get me anywhere.... so far so good
[03:55] <mark_> No its not listed
[03:55] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  there are a lot of packages with it.....
[03:55] <aftertaf> !printing
[03:55] <ubotu> hmm... printing is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[03:55] <shining> trappist: yep, thanks
[03:56] <aftertaf> mark_:  check on that site....
[03:56] <mark_> will do, thx
[03:56] <jack__> Hi! I cam't compile perl modules using cpan. I just installed build-essental but it still doesn't work.
[03:56] <OdeLon> I kinda figured so... it seems to be installng most of the missing packages right now.
[03:56] <OdeLon> X not withstanding
[03:56] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  really? good news then ;)
[03:57] <OdeLon> fingers crossed
[03:57] <trappist> jack__: "doesn't work" isn't really helpful.  information like what happens when you try might be.
[03:57] <aftertaf> and if ubuntu-desktop wont install, try kubuntu-desktop ;)
[03:57] <OdeLon> lol afteraf
[03:57] <puff> Morning.
[03:57] <MP3yeur> hello all (im ench user)
[03:57] <MP3yeur> hello all (im fench user)
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> !fr
[03:57] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:57] <jack__> trappist, cpan can't pass makefiles:: Writing Makefile for DBI
[03:57] <jack__>     -- NOT OK
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> jack-, btw ... have you thought of asking in #perl ?
[03:58] <MP3yeur> ive no response on ubuntu-fr
[03:58] <jack__> wickedpuppy, uhw.. hehe
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> MP3yeur, then pls ask here ...
[03:58] <Seveas> jack__, don't use cpan, use apt
[03:58] <OdeLon> !he
[03:58] <ubotu> OdeLon: Not a clue
[03:58] <OdeLon> !il
[03:58] <shining> do ubuntu and kubuntu share the same repos?
[03:58] <ubotu> OdeLon: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:58] <aftertaf> jack__:  try removing older versions of automake & autoconf
[03:58] <Kaiser_Sleeps> shining: yes
[03:58] <Seveas> OdeLon, feel free to add it :)
[03:58] <Seveas> shining, yes
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> he is what ?
[03:59] <OdeLon> Give me a couple of years hacking around first
[03:59] <aftertaf> lool OdeLon  :)
[03:59] <trappist> jack__: the vast majority of cpan modules are available in, and should be installed from, the apt-repositories.  sudo apt-get install libdbi-perl
[03:59] <aftertaf> bye all :)
[03:59] <trappist> jack__: you might also want to install libperl-dev
[04:00] <shining> so installing kde from ubuntu will result in exactly the same distribution as installing gnome from kubuntu, right? both will have exactly the same working versions of the two de
[04:00] <trappist> shining: yeah it's all the same packages.  ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop are just metapackages that install a selection of packages for you.
[04:00] <jack__> trappist, I installed libdbi-perl. but perl complains that it can't find module perl. :: use dbi;
[04:01] <trappist> jack__: libperl-dev?
[04:02] <jack__> Okay it's working now!! Thanks all.. :) :)
[04:02] <MP3yeur> ive a problem with CUPS on my server (<IP_ADDRESS>), i want to print a document on a Station (<IP_ADDRESS>), i try to connect with firefox to http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631 (it work), but when i go to administrative task, CUPS ask to me login and password, i try my root login with password and others actives login but it's not correct for CUPS, then i cant do administrative tasks !
[04:02] <MP3yeur> Please use simple word to talk with me because im french !
[04:03] <trappist> MP3yeur: set up serveradmin in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[04:03] <Seveas> MP3yeur, the cups webadmin should not be used
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> CUPS admin features are disabled by default in Ubuntu
[04:03] <sethk> MP3yeur, by default you can only administer cups using a browser running on the same machine.  You can change this in the cups configuration
[04:05] <MP3yeur> sethk i think i ve autorised access since 192.168.0.*
[04:05] <holycow> guys, does anyone know how to disable/config the ubuntu update manager so that it automatically installs the updates without asking the user?
[04:05] <MP3yeur> i want to create a login user for administrative printer tasks
[04:06] <Earthen> could someone give me the web addess for the sources list for breezy
[04:06] <sethk> MP3yeur, also, start the browser as root, in addition to using the root password and user
[04:06] <MP3yeur> on the server ?
[04:07] <MP3yeur> Administrative commands are disabled in the web interface for security reasons. Please use the GNOME CUPS manager (System > Administration > Printing).                   i dont want to use this soft !
[04:07] <CarlFK> "start the browser as root" doesn't sound rignt.  the server won't know what user the browser is running as
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> Cups by default only allowed localhost to it  i thought.
[04:08] <trappist> MP3yeur: feel free to reconfigure cups via /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[04:09] <indypende> someone can give me some information about the printers?
[04:09] <MP3yeur> i will go on the server, i will try to start firefox as root user, and im connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:631
[04:09] <MP3yeur> it ok ?
[04:09] <indypende> i have to take my new printer for home use
[04:09] <trappist> cups doesn't care if firefox is running as root
[04:09] <indypende> i need that's be supported totally by linux!
[04:09] <MP3yeur> ok
[04:09] <Fushizzz> Heyo
[04:09] <indypende> no one have an idea?
[04:10] <nickrud> MP3yeur, there's an easier method; sudo adduser cupsys shadow, sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart, and voila, the :631 works
[04:10] <CarlFK> MP3yeur:  try localhost:631 not <IP_ADDRESS>:631
[04:10] <MP3yeur> then <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:10] <are> holaaa
[04:10] <are> alguien abla espaol ?
[04:11] <BockBilbo> are, vete a #ubuntu-es
[04:11] <are> gracias
[04:11] <are> ya estoy alli
[04:11] <are> =]
[04:11] <are> tanks
[04:11] <are> =]
[04:11] <Fushizzz> nisiquiera vos sabes Hablar
[04:12] <CarlFK> indypende: what printer (make/model/URL)
[04:12] <CarlFK> indypende: also, have a look at http://www.linuxprinting.org
[04:12] <indypende> CarlFK, i have to aquire a new printer... i want a suggestion!
[04:13] <Seveas> !tell are about es
[04:13] <jimmy_> using apt-get how can i search what versions of a file are available?
[04:13] <CarlFK> indypende: laser or inkjet?  fast or cheap?  color?
[04:14] <trappist> MP3yeur: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions?highlight=%28cups%29#head-31236fe6767d32d8849819b22f0da7da5026023b
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> "Budget" is the top question. :P
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> and the task its to do.
[04:14] <indypende> CarlFK, inkjet/color
[04:14] <Seveas> indypende, check www.linuxprinting.org
[04:14] <indypende> Seveas, i see..
[04:14] <ikor> jimmy_: use apt-cache
[04:15] <indypende> but all the supported perfectly there are'nt on the markets
[04:16] <bretzel> Hi there :-)
[04:16] <SirKillalot> is there a way to restart X without having to restart an X application? (something like freeze it?)
[04:16] <jimmy_> if i want to downgrade gcc to 3.4, how do i do this. i'm using 4 now
[04:17] <Chousuke> SirKillalot: not
[04:17] <Chousuke> -t
[04:17] <trappist> SirKillalot: no, that's one of the things that kinda sucks about X
[04:17] <SirKillalot> ok thanks
[04:17] <SirKillalot> thoug that sucks
[04:17] <mamoru> people, is there a tool to change keyboard map?
[04:17] <SirKillalot> i would like to restart my X because of it needing so much RAM after that runtime..
[04:17] <ikor> mamoru: setxkbmap
[04:18] <MP3yeur> ok ive try a person on the french channel, thanks for your help !
[04:18] <CarlFK> indypende: try asking in #linuxhelp.  last I checked, Lexmark was not well supported
[04:18] <jimmy_> how do i downgrade gcc versions? do i uninstall first
[04:18] <mamoru> ikor, thanks!
[04:19] <HarddisK> re all
[04:19] <trappist> MP3yeur: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions?#head-31236fe6767d32d8849819b22f0da7da5026023b
[04:19] <trappist> jimmy_: no, several versions of gcc can coexist happily
[04:19] <trappist> jimmy_: to choose which version to use, export CC or use update-alternatives
[04:19] <jimmy_> how can i see what version I have?
[04:20] <jimmy_> versions
[04:20] <Ng> dpkg -l | grep gcc
[04:20] <trappist> ls /usr/bin/gcc-*
[04:20] <Ng> or that :)
[04:20] <jimmy_> i'm trying to compile mplayer but it says to use gcc-3.x
[04:20] <Seveas> dpkg -l "gcc*"
[04:20] <hedonick> or gcc -v :)
[04:20] <Seveas> jimmy_, don't compile mplayer
[04:21] <Seveas> grab it from the repositories
[04:21] <Seveas> !tell jimmy_ about mplayer
[04:21] <Seveas> hedonick, that won't tell all installed versions :)
[04:22] <hedonick> Seveas: ah, didn't see the qualifier, only his first (malformed ;-) question
[04:23] <limguohong91> Hi May I know is it possible to connect a mp3 player to ubuntu and it is not IPod....... I am using Creative Zen touch
[04:24] <Fushizzz> hi
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> limguohong91,  plug it in  - and if you are lucky it will show up as a usb drive.
[04:24] <limguohong91> Dr_Willis, I tried and I am unlucky
[04:24] <Fushizzz> i am gay
[04:24] <jimmy_> apt-get can't find mplayer-586
[04:25] <Seveas> Fushizzz, off-yopic talk elsewhere please
[04:25] <OdeLon2> Seveas: Removing and reinstalling python did the trick, I am now using xchat on my shiny new ubuntu desktop
[04:25] <Seveas> jimmy_, enable multiverse
[04:25] <OdeLon2> Thanks for all the help!
[04:25] <shining> dapper isn't broken enough, I'm disappointed :)
[04:25] <Seveas> OdeLon, cool :)
[04:25] <Ng> limguohong91: you need special software
[04:25] <Ng> shining: today
[04:25] <ice9> what is a good web development application for linux ?
[04:25] <trappist> shining: you timed it wrong
[04:25] <Seveas> ice9, vim
[04:25] <chrisx1> hey im havin trouble installin packages
[04:25] <chrisx1> hey
[04:25] <ice9> for web
[04:25] <ice9> really ?
[04:25] <chrisx1> any1 help with "Some Packages have unresolvable dependences"
[04:25] <Ng> limguohong91: I think gnomad2 should do the trick
[04:25] <Seveas> vim is good for everything :)
[04:25] <ice9> I use that for text
[04:25] <shining> trappist: what happened recently?
[04:25] <Ben123987> Ng, Where can i get it?
[04:26] <Seveas> but you might be interested in nvu or screem
[04:26] <ice9> what are some other ones
[04:26] <trappist> shining: missing mouse and keyboard drivers for xorg
[04:26] <Milleniumgroup> hi, evryone :)
[04:26] <Fushizzz> Yow
[04:26] <shining> ha yep, I just updated that
[04:26] <shining> all input and graphic x driver
[04:26] <Ben123987> Ng, Where can i get gnomad2 ?
[04:26] <Ng> Ben123987: synaptic
[04:26] <trappist> shining: since you said that I'm going to take this opportunity to apt-get upgrade :)
[04:26] <shining> :)
[04:27] <Ben123987> Thanks Ng :)
[04:27] <shining> hehe it was a joke, it doesn't work at all
[04:27] <trappist> oh nm then
[04:28] <shining> trappist: no, just trying to confuse you
[04:28] <shining> trappist: I just checked again by killing x
[04:28] <shining> it works fine
[04:28] <bretzel> I have just upgraded KDE to 3.5 with Kubuntu repo and for others using KDE in Ubuntu, I recommand to jump to kde 3.5 (Kubuntu desk )ASAP :-)
[04:29] <shining> kubuntu meta packages isn't broken ?
[04:29] <BigKahuna> how to kill a process from cli using process name not PID?
[04:29] <shining> what do you mean, kubuntu repo?
[04:29] <shining> BigKahuna: killall maybe
[04:30] <trappist> BigKahuna: pkill
[04:30] <bretzel> shining: Only for konq-plugins but I managed to install it bu removing previous KDE -- I have to say I dunno if that package was well installed tho:-) but I am actually in kde3.5 and everything seems to be ok
[04:30] <shining> BigKahuna: or kill `pidof app` or something like that
[04:30] <shining> ho
[04:30] <jessid> hello...I would like to know if there exist any gui app to configure samba service!!!
[04:32] <Yagisan> Do we have and screen capture apps like fraps in ubuntu ?
[04:32] <Yagisan> s/and/any
[04:32] <Ng> Yagisan: poke your Print Screen key :)
[04:32] <Ng> or do you mean movie recording?
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:32] <Yagisan> Ng: I need 25/fps 640x480
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> Fraps is an interesting program.
[04:32] <Ng> Yagisan: ah, I'm not sure then, sorry
[04:33] <Yagisan> Ng: Me either, that's why I'm here :)
[04:33] <mahangu> i cant write to my ipod shuffle, nautilus says it is a read onyl device
[04:33] <mahangu> whta can I do?
[04:33] <mahangu> i want to put some files on it
[04:34] <jimmy_> apt-get install mplayer-586 gives error: Depends: libpolyp0 but it is not installable
[04:35] <bur[n] er> mahangu: use banshee
[04:35] <CarlFK> mahangu: there is an app for ipod.. i can't remember what it is called...
[04:35] <bur[n] er> mahangu: or gtkpod
[04:35] <CarlFK> banshee
[04:35] <bur[n] er> or the very latest rhythmbox (not in repositories)
[04:35] <bur[n] er> bbl
[04:36] <mamoru> people, is there a tool for editing keyboard map?
[04:36] <BigKahuna> trappist, Thanks, works a treat.
[04:36] <_jason> mamoru, try man setkeycodes... don't know too much about it
[04:36] <Ben123987> I am using gnomad2 and it is goof but when i open it with my MP3 connected. It shows. USB_Set)Configuration: Operation not pemritted
[04:36] <Ben123987> How can i fix it?
[04:37] <osfameron> dammit, ubuntu is still reading CDs at x1.3 speed or so rather than the x10 it should be doing
[04:37] <osfameron> despite running through modifications in !dma
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> osfameron,  you ripping audio cd's ?
[04:39] <osfameron> Dr_Willis: yup
[04:39] <ubuntu> dvs
[04:39] <chrisx1> where do i get gtk2.2.0?
[04:39] <mamoru> _jason, thx, but that's not quite what i needed
[04:39] <ubuntu> algun espaol
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> osfameron,  Ive seen some programs (windows included) that rip them slowly for some reaon. Dirt? or perhaps they are some how double checking the data.. not sure.
[04:39] <_jason> !es
[04:39] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:40] <osfameron> Dr_Willis: the laptop came installed with WinXP, used to run at 10x speed
[04:40] <chrisx1> where do i get gtk2.2.0?
[04:40] <chrisx1> !gtk
[04:40] <ubotu> chrisx1: Are you smoking crack?
[04:40] <osfameron> on ubuntu not.  But I wonder if I can check for dirt, that's a possibility I spose
[04:40] <trappist> osfameron: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom (or whatever the device is)
[04:40] <osfameron> trappist: did that
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> osfameron,  i tend to just use 'grip' and let them rip in the background.
[04:41] <hybrid> chrisx1: synaptic?
[04:41] <jimmy_> could someone install mplayer for me
[04:41] <chrisx1> its not there
[04:41] <chrisx1> or
[04:41] <chrisx1> if i do
[04:41] <osfameron> Dr_Willis: ooo, I'll check that out
[04:41] <chrisx1> i get unresolveable dependances
[04:41] <hybrid> jimmy_:sudo  apt-get install mplayer
[04:41] <CarlFK> jimmy_:  breezy?
[04:42] <hybrid> chrisx1: are all your repos set up correctly?
[04:42] <CarlFK> jimmy_: see if this helps: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[04:42] <chrisx1> hybrid im not sure
[04:42] <Pablo> how do I burn a bin/cue in linux?
[04:42] <chrisx1> can i paste them to you?
[04:42] <hybrid> chrisx1: /join #flood
[04:43] <jimmy_> i get error mplayer-586: Depends: libpolyp0 but it is not installable
[04:44] <jimmy_> maybe i should reinstall
[04:44] <jimmy_> ubuntu
[04:44] <AlexRM> Hey
[04:45] <AlexRM> I just installed the fglrx ATI Drivers, and now there are horizontal lines accross my screen
[04:45] <AlexRM> I think that my horizontal refresh rate is..stuck
[04:45] <AlexRM> how do I change it ??
[04:45] <trappist> AlexRM: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:45] <vincentmx> hi
[04:45] <trappist> or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:45] <enkrav> Hi, why is the ssh-agent process running, on my ubuntu installation? I don't have installed any ssh server ??
[04:45] <AlexRM> trappist, and edit what?
[04:45] <trappist> AlexRM: if you don't know, go with the dpkg-reconfigure
[04:46] <AlexRM> ok
[04:46] <jimmy_> anyone know a linux distro that is easy to use?
[04:46] <saik0> Could anybody explain this phenomenon: Boot CDs only boot when no (bootable?) HDDs are connected
[04:46] <TrendKill> hi guys, im trying to create a reiserfs partition on a 60 gig hard drive (i want the whole hardrive to be one partition) but mkreiserfs keeps creating a 10 gig partition instead of the whole thing...any ideas on what im doing wrong? mkreiserfs /dev/hdc1
[04:46] <saik0> jimmy_, ubuntu
[04:46] <vincentmx> jimmy_ kubuntu, xubuntu or ubuntu
[04:46] <saik0> jimmy_ =P
[04:46] <jrw146> I attempted installing 5.10. After all the initial setups, it rebooted as usual, and began unpacking stuff (as usual). After it finished that, it goes to a screen with just a bolded, non blinking _ , left for hours, then I manually restarted. It goes thru the normal boot procedures, but as its about to load the logons/desktop, it simply goes to a blank screen. Tried with 5.04 and doing the...
[04:46] <jrw146> ...same as well.
[04:46] <jrw146> Any clues?
[04:46] <vincentmx> odd question in an Ubuntu channel
[04:46] <jimmy_> TrendKill, maybe your boot order in your bios
[04:47] <hybrid> jimmy_: ubuntu is the most flexible. SuSe is strickly newbie/business Xandros is for Windows lovers and Fedora is for RedHat people
[04:47] <ubuntu> hi @ all
[04:47] <vincentmx> hi ubuntu
[04:47] <enkrav> and debian is ...
[04:47] <saik0> jrw146, mkfs is for creating filesystems on a partition
[04:47] <ubuntu> i ve problems with grub
[04:48] <hybrid> enkrav: debian is not Y2K compatiable
[04:48] <TrendKill> jimmy_, how would that affect the maximum partition size?
[04:48] <saik0> jrw146, your partition is 10 gigs big
[04:48] <vincentmx> ubuntu, i'd change my nick if i were you, other people would also want that nick
[04:48] <TrendKill> oh and im using ubuntu livecd...
[04:48] <TrendKill> even gparted fails to create it...
[04:48] <ubuntu> yes but i m online with livecd
[04:49] <jimmy_> why doesn't ubuntu come with mplayer? doesn't totem stink
[04:49] <jrw146> saik0: I used the utility in the ubuntu install to automatically partition my drive accordingly. Only a 30gb. But... I've used bigger HDs and bigger partitions than that on other systems.
[04:49] <jimmy_> i can't watch streaming porn with totem
[04:49] <saik0> TrendKill and jrw146. doh, i meant to say that to TrendKill
[04:49] <vincentmx> ubuntu, just type "/nick" and the name you want
[04:49] <jrw146> saik0: Haha, thought so.
[04:49] <vincentmx> yes
[04:49] <vincentmx> :D
[04:49] <Yagisan> jimmy_: It's in universe
[04:49] <mynewnickname> better?
[04:50] <vincentmx> indeed
[04:50] <AlexRM> Thanks who ever helped me, works now
[04:50] <vincentmx> very unique too
[04:50] <mynewnickname> ok, now my problem
[04:50] <mahangu> bur[n] er, but i want to copy files to my shuffle, not music
[04:50] <vincentmx> ask away, mynewnickname
[04:50] <jimmy_> Yagisan, but i get Dependent errors when trying to install it
[04:50] <mynewnickname> i ve partioned my hd and then installed windows
[04:50] <TrendKill> saik0, but i dont want to install ubuntu just yet....but actually...your on to something...ill just kill the install right after the partitioning...thanks alot!
[04:50] <vincentmx> yes
[04:50] <mynewnickname> now my grub isnt working
[04:50] <vincentmx> hmm
[04:50] <saik0> TrendKill, no need
[04:50] <AlexRM> but can someone help me with my Surround Sound Problem? I have surround sound working by changing some volumes in Wave Surround, Wave Center, Wave LFE Etc....but now in BMP the Volume bar doesn't work
[04:51] <AlexRM> say if I set the volume to 0 in BMP, the volume level is still the same
[04:51] <mynewnickname> i tried it with http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Bootloader
[04:51] <saik0> TrendKill, youre on the live CD right. you can use parted (CLI tool) or GParted (gtk+ tool)
[04:51] <vincentmx> mynewnickname, you need to add it to your menu.lst
[04:51] <shining_> I've a problem with a laptop, I can't find what I'm missing in the kernel config. the cdrom is showing in /dev/hdc instead of /dev/scd , and I can't enable dma, so it isn't usable
[04:51] <jimmy_> i get error mplayer-586: Depends: libpolyp0 but it is not installable
[04:51] <mynewnickname> but after "grub-install /dev/hda" it says The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[04:52] <hybrid> is tor open?
[04:52] <shining_> any idea?
[04:52] <Yagisan>  jimmy_: mplayer-586 installed fine for me in my i386 chroot (breezy) are you on dapper ?
[04:52] <shining_> anyone with an ich6 laptop ?
[04:52] <vincentmx> mynewnickname, just open a terminal and type sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:53] <trappist> shining_: it's not a scsi cdrom, is it?
[04:53] <hybrid> jimmy_: i compiled mplayer so i could bypass ubuntu's restricted format protection
[04:53] <shining_> trappist: no idea
[04:53] <jimmy_> Yagisan, what is dapper?
[04:53] <trappist> shining_: ide-scsi is deprecated, but there's still a scsi emulation option in the kernel I believe
[04:53] <shining_> trappist: sata maybe? I'm not sure
[04:53] <trappist> shining_: then it's not
[04:53] <shining_> the hard drive shows as /dev/sda
[04:53] <Yagisan> jimmy_: the development version.
[04:54] <trappist> shining_: why can't you enable dma?
[04:54] <Yagisan> hybrid: odd, mine works fine with "restricted formats"
[04:54] <deluxe___> can someone tell me if i can do install of ubuntu using a linksys wusb11 v2.6 wireless adapter
[04:54] <vincentmx> mynewnickname, and add your windows install to it
[04:54] <trappist> hybrid: for restricted formats, just install w32codecs
[04:54] <hybrid> Yagisan: well this is something i started with Warty. I havent tried anything else
[04:55] <shining_> trappist: no idea, but if it's a sata cd, it shouldnt show as /dev/hdc , should it ?
[04:55] <jrw146> I attempted installing 5.10. After all the initial setups, it rebooted as usual, and began unpacking stuff (as usual). After it finished that, it goes to a screen with just a bolded, non blinking _ , left for hours, then I manually restarted. It goes thru the normal boot procedures, but as its about to load the logons/desktop, it simply goes to a blank screen. Tried with 5.04 and doing the...
[04:55] <jrw146> ...same as well. Figured I'd repost if anyone new came in to try to help.
[04:55] <trappist> hybrid: there's nothing in the mplayer build that prevents you from playing those formats.  ubuntu just doesn't ship with the codecs.
[04:55] <Yagisan> jimmy_: If you have esound installed, you may not be able to install libpolyp0 as there is a conflict
[04:55] <hybrid> trappist: yea and the source comes with it
[04:55] <trappist> shining_: never had a sata drive, so I'm not sure, but I wouldn't think so
[04:55] <odin> How do I find out what my PATH is?
[04:55] <Seveas> echo $PATH
[04:55] <trappist> odin: echo $PATH
[04:55] <odin> Thanks
[04:55] <hybrid> it is just something i did in warty and have continued since
[04:56] <hybrid> hey Seveas! long time no see
[04:56] <shining_> trappist: you can't enable dma on sata drives with hdparm -d1, like on ide drives
[04:56] <Seveas> hi
[04:56] <saik0> What might be causing CDs to only boot when no HDDs are present? (cdrom first in BIOS)
[04:56] <trappist> hybrid: a million years ago I wrote this script.  maybe it still works: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/scripts/getmplayer
[04:56] <trappist> shining_: this is true
[04:57] <pu> hello.
[04:57] <vincentmx> hi pu
[04:57] <pu> i've been following this gudie to set up wireless on my laptop - https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[04:57] <hybrid> trappist: #easybreezy
[04:57] <pu> and i'm having trouble using modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:57] <shining_> trappist: how can I see which controller the cdrom is using?
[04:57] <Fenomen> Hello people!
[04:58] <vincentmx> hi
[04:58] <vincentmx> pu, could you describe?
[04:58] <Fenomen> Can anyboady help me with some answers
[04:58] <pu> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (...etc...etc.../ndiswrapper.ko)
[04:58] <pu> is what it says..
[04:58] <_jason> Fenomen, just ask, if someone knows you get an answer :D
[04:58] <vincentmx> ok
[04:58] <shining_> I thought it would be the same as the hard drive one, but the hd works fine.  After all the initial setups, it rebooted as usual, and began unpacking stuff (as usual). After it finished that, it goes to a screen with just a bolded, non blinking _ , left for hours, then I manually restarted. It goes thru the normal boot procedures, but as its about to load the logons/desktop, it simply goes to a blank screen. Tried with 5.04 and doing the...
[05:00] <pu> not supported?
[05:00] <jrw146> ...same as well. Could it be a video issue? Its a old Geforce4MX PCI.
[05:00] <shining_> pu: it's supported
[05:00] <shining_> pu: just looking for a less stupid user than me so he can tell me if I'm missing a hidden option in the kernel or something
[05:01] <pu> i think if i can just get this working, i can work with ubuntu
[05:01] <Fenomen> Maybe someone knows how to make a Preinstallation disks for UBUNTU 5.10???
[05:02] <pu> thanks for your help shining
[05:02] <No1Viking> !repos
[05:02] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:02] <jimmy_> alright i'm going to try to compile mplayer again. i need to change the gcc version i'm using to 3.x how can i do this?
[05:02] <trappist> jimmy_: update-alternatives
[05:03] <shining_> omfg
[05:04] <Fenomen> Does somebody knows something about UBUNTU Preinstallation
[05:04] <trappist> wth, no alternatives for gcc?
[05:04] <Fenomen> Does somebody knows something about UBUNTU Preinstallation
[05:04] <shining_> Fenomen: wtf is that?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> Fenomen,   care to clarify
[05:04] <jimmy_> trappist, i don't understand update-alternatives
[05:05] <shining_> Fenomen: just build a pc and install ubuntu on it
[05:05] <shining_> jimmy_: it's really hard indeed
[05:05] <trappist> jimmy_: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[05:05] <pu> i think maybe it has something to do with ubuntu installed the wrong driver intially
[05:05] <pu> and i removed with ndiswrapper -e
[05:05] <chrisx1> !find irssi
[05:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'irssi' (5 shown): irssi-plugin-icq ;; irssi-scripts ;; irssi-snapshot ;; irssi-snapshot-dev ;; irssi-text.
[05:05] <pu> and then reinstalled the ones i downloaded from web
[05:05] <trappist> chrisx1: you want irssi-text.  why it's called that is beyond me.
[05:06] <Seveas> trappist, there were/are plans for a gui version
[05:06] <hybrid> trappist: because you can compile it with a GUI
[05:06] <hybrid> kinda like mplayer
[05:06] <deltron> mmmm irssi-text :)
[05:07] <hybrid> deltron: yes its a great client
[05:07] <deltron> yeah, my fav :)
[05:07] <hybrid> deltron: i use it on all my boxes
[05:08] <shining_> when you are ssh on the box, and you reboot it, why doesn't it always log out?
[05:08] <shining_> most of the times, it get stuck. how do I kill it?
[05:08] <trappist> imho the gui version should get a special name. xchat is a gui client with an optional cli version, so it makes sense there.
[05:08] <hybrid> shining_: lag
[05:08] <shining_> hybrid: ha
[05:08] <jrw146> *snifflesniffle* Wow, doomed to a life of winblows. What is a poor girl to do? Bah... I'll try again, heh..
[05:08] <jrw146> I attempted installing 5.10. After all the initial setups, it rebooted as usual, and began unpacking stuff (as usual). After it finished that, it goes to a screen with just a bolded, non blinking _ , left for hours, then I manually restarted. It goes thru the normal boot procedures, but as its about to load the logons/desktop, it simply goes to a blank screen. Tried with 5.04 and doing the...
[05:08] <jrw146> ...same as well. Any clues?
[05:08] <hybrid> shining_: i can reset my router and not get disconnected from irc
[05:09] <pu> man, no internet = no ubuntu.. lol
[05:09] <shining_> hybrid: wow, I can't do that
[05:09] <hybrid> shining_: my lag goes over 100
[05:09] <trappist> me neither.  my screen runs on my router :)
[05:09] <hybrid> trappist: wrt?
[05:09] <deltron> lol, I've ben thinking about doing that
[05:09] <trappist> but ssh's keepalive is pretty robust.  you can go a few minutes before it gives up.
[05:10] <maffju> jrw146, maybe x is not properly configured?
[05:10] <shining_> ssh maybe but not irssi
[05:11] <jrw146> maffju: I've not had a chance to configure it... Plus, its an old Geforce4MX PCI. My laptop's Radeon from the same era needed no config.... Hmm...
[05:11] <shining_> btw my router or modem always lose the net connection, it's very annoying
[05:11] <jimmy_> thanks for your help mplaying is install now
[05:11] <shining_> I stayed 10 min there and I'm already shining_
[05:11] <Fenomen> No, the Preinstallation I men, that make one PC, ahd do the own configuration on it, and than make the disk, whith wich I cold install aal the same as it was on my configured system, without the reconfiguring...
[05:12] <shining_> Fenomen: huh
[05:12] <Fenomen> It is as on IBM notebooks is eaven one partition for making the preinstallation disks
[05:13] <jrw146> Fenomen: I wouldn't call that "preinstallation", sounds like you just want to copy your settings to another PC..
[05:13] <jrw146> Fenomen: How to accomplish that... Er.... I'm not certain.
[05:13] <Fenomen> maybe I want to copy my settings to many pc's
[05:13] <redguy> Fenomen: sound like debian's FAI to me. maybe ubuntu can do the same thing?
[05:14] <AlexRM> Hey
[05:14] <redguy> Fenomen: Fully Automated Install if I remember correctly
[05:14] <AlexRM> I would like to Install UT2004 on Ubuntu. How would I do this? Is there a guide somewhere?
[05:14] <Fenomen> Well, I heard, that UBUNTU can do that, but a can't find out How
[05:15] <Fenomen> yes Something like automated installation... but also with all the addons, wich I added when the UBUNTU alredi was installed
[05:15] <trappist> AlexRM: it's pretty straightforward.  first, make sure you have dri enabled - glxinfo | grep rendering - then run the installer.
[05:16] <AlexRM> DRI? what is that?
[05:16] <redguy> Fenomen: well, entering ubuntu FAI in google gives "Installing Ubuntu Linux with FAI - FAIWiki" as the first link
[05:16] <redguy> Fenomen: you didn't look hard, did you?
[05:16] <trappist> AlexRM: direct rendering something
[05:16] <Fenomen> Thanks
[05:16] <shining_> infrastructure maybe
[05:16] <AlexRM> trappist, I have my drivers installed, so they should be already enabled, yes?
[05:16] <guiss> hi, i am trying to set up a debian chroot environment in ubuntu, followed the instructions from http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html and when I change /etc/inittab, the console I assign debian keeps respawning, any help?
[05:16] <Fenomen> Thats meen, that I didn't look hard!!! :)
[05:16] <Fenomen> Ok, thanks
[05:17] <trappist> AlexRM: depends.  run glxinfo | grep rendering to find out.
[05:17] <AlexRM> trappist, yep, done it-s enabled
[05:17] <AlexRM> so I just put the disc in, and run the installed? and thats it done?
[05:17] <AlexRM> installer*
[05:18] <AlexRM> trappist, does it matter if im on 64bit Linux?
[05:18] <trappist> AlexRM: well I don't know if the linux installer is on the cd - you may have to download that.
[05:18] <shining_> it's crap when you ssh from a distrib using utf8 on one using iso. what can I do?
[05:18] <trappist> AlexRM: there's an amd64 installer.  google it :)
[05:18] <AlexRM> trappist, Cool ok, sorry - new to all this stuff
[05:18] <MikeG> Help. Where is 'acroread' repository?
[05:18] <pu> can somebody tell me what this means?
[05:18] <pu> i used the command "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[05:19] <pu> and this was the response i received..
[05:19] <pu> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[05:19] <trappist> pu: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:19] <karlan> how can i get access to my windows partition?
[05:19] <saik0> MikeG, you would probably be better off using evince, unless you're sure you want abobe's reader
[05:19] <shining_> do I need to use the same locale on both system ?
[05:20] <MikeG> Said0, I'll try evince first. Never used it. Thanks.
[05:20] <jeff303> hi, does anyone know if the monitor power-saving settings have change from hoary -> breezy?
[05:20] <trappist> karlan: use the 'umask=0' option in your /etc/fstab
[05:20] <saik0> MikeG, np problem. btw it comes with breezy
[05:21] <jrw146> I attempted installing 5.10. After all the initial setups, it rebooted as usual, and began unpacking stuff (as usual). After it finished that, it goes to a screen with just a bolded, non blinking _ , left for hours, then I manually restarted. It goes thru the normal boot procedures, but as its about to load the logons/desktop, it simply goes to a blank screen. Tried with 5.04 and doing the...
[05:22] <jrw146> ...same as well. If it's an X related problem, how abouts do I go to solve it?
[05:22] <MikeG> saik0, evince? Is that correct sp. can't apt-get it
[05:22] <evilmegaman> hi, I think I want to compile my own kernel but I don't know how to exactly. Is there any guides I can use?
[05:22] <chrisx1> any ideas about this E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:22] <nassif> hi all ... yehaa :) it works
[05:23] <trappist> jrw146: doesn't sound like an X problem, unfortunately
[05:23] <karlan> trappist, i havent asked anything yet?
[05:23] <MikeG> saik0, never mind. got it.
[05:23] <Slant_Laptop> christel, somethign went wrong in the package scripts. Do you have the output from before that point?
[05:23] <trappist> karlan: oh I was probably trying to answer somebody else.  please disregard :)
[05:23] <karlan> :p
[05:23] <jrw146> trappist: It was mentioned earlier, butthey never reiterated. *shrug* Any clues yourself?
[05:23] <karlan> i have some questions thou :-)
[05:23] <saik0> MikeG, good to hear
[05:23] <AlexRM> trappist, I can't find hte 64bit installer anywhere, do you know where it is?
[05:24] <nassif> how do i make ubuntu pop up a window if i.e. firefox wants to connect to its starts page but the dial in connection is not already established ?
[05:24] <karlan> first off, i am having some trouble with my sound. it works fine in ubuntu, but not in xmms. where do i choose the right soundcard etc in xmms?
[05:24] <maffju> jrw146, i still think it might be an x related problem - try replacing "radeon" (or whatever driver you have) by "vesa" in your /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[05:25] <trappist> jrw146: it sounds like what I got with a poorly built custom kernel back in the 2.5.x days.  in your case it just sounds like a bad install.  maybe a bad cd.
[05:25] <jrw146> maffju: But how do I actually do that when I'm never given the opporitunity?
[05:25] <pu> trappist, even with sudo, i get the same response..
[05:25] <jrw146> trappist: 5.04 is one of the officially pressed CDs mailed to me, 5.10 is from the official page that I burnt. Both doing the same thing.
[05:25] <saik0> karlan, set xmms to use esd
[05:26] <maffju> jrw146, can you start the pc with a live cd?
[05:26] <jrw146> maffju: Haven't tried any of the ubuntu Lives, but my Knoppix live works
[05:26] <trappist> jrw146: does ctrl-alt-f3 (or f2 or f4 etc.) do anything?
[05:26] <maffju> jrw146, so can use a live cd, mount the hard drive and change the xorg.conf
[05:27] <karlan> saik0, got it to work :-) thx
[05:27] <jonathon> gday
[05:27] <evilmegaman> Where do I download the latest kernel? so I can compile it myself?
[05:27] <maffju> jrw146, oh, sure, trappist's suggestion is good!
[05:27] <karlan> one more question, how can i get my back and forward-button to work on my logitech mx510 in firefox etc?
[05:27] <jonathon> i god a simple kind of question for anyone awake
[05:27] <saik0> karlan, yep, anytime
[05:28] <jonathon> how do u change the background screen that comes up when the gnome splash is loading up?
[05:28] <jrw146> trappist: pressed at what time? Haven't attempted that... And when I do, what is it supposed to accomplish? Going to reinstall ubuntu and see what happens.
[05:28] <AlexRM> Does anyone know where I can get a UT2004 64BIT installer?
[05:28] <saik0> karlan, might want to look into beep-media-player. in essence xmms with gtk
[05:28] <jonathon> how do u change the background screen that comes up when the gnome splash is loading up?
[05:28] <maffju> jrw146, pressing ctrl-alt-f2 will show a non-graphical login
[05:29] <maffju> jrw146, if it's an x related problem, it should work
[05:29] <Evaso> any body is trying to backport Kino 0.8.0?
[05:29] <maffju> jrw146, if it doesn't work, I'm on the wrong track
[05:29] <morgania> hi all
[05:29] <trappist> jrw146: considering when it occurs, I don't think it's a boot issue.  ctrl-alt-f3 should take you to a different virtual console, if it exists, from which you should be able to accomplish something.
[05:30] <AlexRM> Please, Does anyone know where a 64BIT UT2004 Installer is?
[05:30] <karlan> saik0, beep-media-player? got any url?
[05:30] <NoUse> karlan it's in synaptic/apt
[05:30] <jrw146> Trappist/Maffju: Will try it out, Will pop back in within 2-3 hours depending on how long it takes to reinstall everything.
[05:31] <saik0> karlan, apt-get install beep-media-player, if u wanna check it out look it up at freshmeat.net
[05:31] <karlan> ok, nice
[05:31] <karlan> will do :)
[05:31] <maffju> jrw146, good luck
[05:31] <karlan> any got an answer on my mouse-question? :)
[05:32] <Seveas> karlan, a cat is the answer to all mouse problems
[05:32] <jonathon> how do find out what daemons are running?
[05:32] <Seveas> jonathon, ps f -e
[05:32] <Seveas> or ps aux
[05:32] <Davey> unfortunately, Seveas, cats have their own problems :/
[05:32] <AlexRM> Please, can someone help me??
[05:32] <karlan> Seveas, :p
[05:32] <morgania> i install mubuntu on my pc, and when i whant to install a tar.gz the linux don`t know where, or how to use, the c compiler for extract tar.gz
[05:33] <hybrid> Seveas karlan remember the "cueCat"?
[05:33] <trappist> AlexRM: looks like the linux installer is on the cdrom and includes amd64 binaries
[05:33] <karlan> hybrid, not really
[05:33] <Seveas> !tell morgania about compiling
[05:33] <AlexRM> trappist, ok - I shall install my dvd driver now
[05:33] <AlexRM> brb
[05:33] <hybrid> karlan: it was an input device that scan barcodes and let you do stuff with them online
[05:33] <jimmy_> exit
[05:33] <Seveas> karlan, search the wiki for a page with ManyMouseButtons in the title
[05:33] <Seveas> I'm pretty sire there is one
[05:34] <karlan> hybrid, hmm, not sure that i know what you mean.
[05:34] <mahangu> im having trouble writing files to my ipod shuffle
[05:34] <mahangu> it mounts alright
[05:34] <mahangu> but with chmod 700
[05:34] <jonathon> once you find the daemon you want how do you make it activate when  your gnome starts?
[05:34] <mahangu> so i cant write files to it
[05:34] <saik0> Are there any channels where i could get help with hardware related issues?
[05:34] <Seveas> saik0, this one is a good start
[05:35] <karlan> saik0, damn, beep is much better :-) thx
[05:35] <Seveas> and depending on the hardware there may be other channels too
[05:35] <bluefoxicy>  11:34:26 up 86 days, 22:58,  5 users,  load average: 0.24, 0.26, 0.17
[05:35] <mindamp> how do i use sed to print only the first three characters from line 1 of a file?
[05:35] <bluefoxicy> I totally 86'd windows' uptime.
[05:35] <saik0> Seveas, I've asked here a few times. Got a mobo that only boots CDs if there are no HDDs present (proper boot order)
[05:35] <vardhan> Hi, which package in dapper has xorgcfg ?
[05:35] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, and missed the latest 20 kernel security fixes...
[05:36] <trappist> Seveas: after a few tries it's ManyButtonsMouse rather than ManyMouseButtons
[05:36] <Seveas> saik0, that really sounds like an incorrect boot order in the bios
[05:36] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  i'm inside a NAT network.  I'm aware of the risk.
[05:36] <jonathon> how can you make commands execute at login automatically?
[05:36] <saik0> Seveas, i want as far as rmoving all but cdrom from the boot order. still boots HDDs
[05:36] <trappist> jonathon: put them in your .bashrc
[05:36] <morgania> root@ubuntu:/programe/streamripper/streamripper-1.61.17# ./configure
[05:36] <morgania> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[05:36] <morgania> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[05:37] <morgania> checking for gawk... no
[05:37] <morgania> checking for mawk... mawk
[05:37] <morgania> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
[05:37] <morgania> checking for gcc... gcc
[05:37] <trappist> gah.
[05:37] <Seveas> no pasting in here
[05:37] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> hi
[05:37] <Seveas> don't even think about getting help anymore
[05:37] <bluefoxicy> rafb.net/paste
[05:37] <KevinColyer> sorry to be a pain and off topic but I am having a problem and can't seem to find a solution. I installed Breezy with a UK keyboard, but my user has a French keyboard. How do I change the login/system keymap to French? Once in the Desktop there is no problem
[05:37] <steve6> Ubuntu!
[05:37] <karlan> this i remember i got it to work a long time ago on my debianmachine, but how do i get access to my ntfs partitions on my computer?
[05:37] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> uhm, i have a question about firefox update...
[05:38] <Seveas> karlan, mount them :)
[05:38] <nassif> how do i manage dial on demand ?
[05:38] <karlan> Seveas, is it just to mount them? i remember that i had to get some program to get it to work last time
[05:39] <steve6> for dsl nassif?
[05:39] <yoav> can any one point me out to a channel that has languauge support?
[05:39] <megngab> hi, i'm a newbie and i have a very basic question
[05:39] <Seveas> karlan, mounting is enough
[05:39] <Seveas> megngab, ask away :)
[05:39] <nassif> steve6, nope : analog modem
[05:39] <karlan> Seveas, oh okay. how do i get access to them? :) when i try to access them, i get an errormsg that says that i dont have any rights to view them
[05:39] <Seveas> yoav, which langiage?
[05:40] <megngab> i have installed my ubuntu 5.10 but i don't know what is the defaul super user password?
[05:40] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> does someone here know when firefox 1.5 will be in update sources?
[05:40] <Seveas> karlan, use -o umask=0000 in the mount command
[05:40] <Seveas> Naruto_UzumakiMT, probably never
[05:40] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> there is no password, do your stuff with sudo and your password
[05:40] <ClayG> can you do x over ssh without installing/enabling XDM
[05:40] <Seveas> !tell megngab about root
[05:40] <yoav> thanks Seveas - hebrew. or any non latin actually, i guess its the same trick
[05:40] <Seveas> ClayG, ssh -X
[05:40] <Seveas> that's enough :)
[05:40] <karlan> oh ok
[05:40] <karlan> will try
[05:40] <ClayG> the remote node doesn't need xdm?
[05:40] <Seveas> yoav, #ubuntu-il or #ubuntu-he perhaps
[05:40] <megngab> ok, thanks!
[05:40] <Seveas> ClayG, no
[05:41] <ClayG> I installed it last night on it, and today it will not log in
[05:41] <ClayG> when i look in /etc/init.d/
[05:41] <ClayG> i noticed xdm,kdm,and gdm
[05:41] <yoav> thank Seveas
[05:41] <christian_> hi all
[05:41] <Jonne> small question: how do you set the dns server address from command line?
[05:41] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> Seveas: why wont there be this update? Thats not nice :(
[05:41] <saik0> Seveas, know anyplace somebody might be able to help with that mobo problem?
[05:41] <megngab> opppppps ....
[05:41] <Seveas> Jonne, nano /etc/resolv.conf
[05:41] <Jonne> tnx
[05:41] <christian_> is there a way to display my second hard disk into Resources men?
[05:41] <Seveas> saik0, not really
[05:41] <ClayG> also the remote "server" that i ssh into instead of booting into a graphical login screen boots into what you would see if you ctrl/alt/f1
[05:42] <megngab> when you say sudo, what do you mean?
[05:42] <Amaranth> !sudo
[05:42] <Taa5i__> What does Could not read data: success mean?  And why does rdate keep mailing me about it please?
[05:42] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sudo is the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:42] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> it is a commmand
[05:42] <ClayG> I want to remove all of these gdm,kdm,and xdm
[05:42] <Seveas> Naruto_UzumakiMT, because it would require a lot of things in main to be recompiled against something in -updates
[05:42] <ClayG> then sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[05:42] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> type "sudo <command>"
[05:42] <ClayG> if this is safe
[05:42] <Seveas> which is simply not done
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> ClayG,  if you remove gdm - you cant configure it..
[05:43] <megngab> like when i want to modify the fstab file, i then type the command "sudo vi fstab"...
[05:43] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> Seveas: doh! Ok, then i use the official one...
[05:43] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> yes megngab
[05:43] <AlexRM> Hi,
[05:43] <megngab> thanks a lot!
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> ClayG,  if you want to boot to the console by default - just disable the gdm/xdm/kdm services
[05:44] <Everin> Seveas,
[05:44] <steve6> does ubunto have an installer worth a shit? or is it ugly like gentoo
[05:44] <AlexRM> How do I start the UT2004 Linux Installer?
[05:44] <AlexRM> I went sudo linux-installer.sh but it said command not found
[05:44] <Everin> me i show u my problm /
[05:44] <Everin> ?
[05:44] <megngab> another question ...
[05:44] <ClayG> so is gdm ONLY in the /init.d?
[05:44] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> lol, why must the installer be colorful and styled, it must u#install a system and not look godd
[05:44] <ardchoille> w00t! This distro rocks!
[05:44] <megngab> how do i setup my webcam?
[05:44] <ClayG> that isn't just a call to it when my system starts up?
[05:44] <trappist> AlexRM: sudo sh /path/to/linux-installer.sh
[05:45] <ardchoille> trappist: hi
[05:45] <ardchoille> I remember that nick from a idff channel a long time ago
[05:45] <trappist> ardchoille: probably #mandrake
[05:45] <ardchoille> yep
[05:46] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> bye
[05:46] <zlaja> hey guys! anyone who knows how i disable my x server?
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> ClayG,  the run levels start th different services,  read up on how the "SysV" init system works. there are some SysV config tools you can instal also,
[05:46] <zlaja> i want to install a nvidia gfx-driver
[05:46] <Taa5i> I downloaded recently an Ubuntu-server ISO, however at boot trying to boot server or server-expert to install failed saying no such kernel.  I then checked the syslinux.cfg file and saw no option for those, despite them being listed in the Help Boot Options text.
[05:46] <trappist> zlaja: uninstalling it is pretty effective at disabling it
[05:46] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> #quit no FF 1.5 in update source :(
[05:46] <ClayG> nah, I'll erase gdm, xdm and kdm from init.d
[05:47] <ClayG> this will be the fastest way to see if i can fix it, it wont boot into graphical now anywaty
[05:47] <Taa5i> Is it the case that on an ubuntu-server cd, linux and expert are actually server and expert-server, and the documentation is just wildly misleading?
[05:47] <ardchoille> zlaja: you can just go to runlevel 3 and install the driver there
[05:47] <trappist> ClayG: no, just use update-rc.d for that - taking them out of init.d is not the way to go
[05:47] <saik0> zlaja, theres is an ubuntu way to install
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> ClayG,  thats like hitting a fly with a hammer - its wrth wile to learn the RIGHT way to do what you are trying to do.
[05:47] <megngab> anybody can help me how to setup my webcam in ubuntu 5.10?
[05:47] <Everin> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables ; what meens that ?
[05:47] <Seveas> !tell Everin about compiling
[05:48] <zlaja> woot?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> ClayG,  you dont want to delete them from the /etc/init.d/
[05:48] <zlaja> im new at linux
[05:48] <Taa5i> !tell Taa5i about rdate
[05:48] <saik0> zlaja, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:48] <ClayG> I can't just sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm and have it popped back in there?
[05:49] <pavka> Hello
[05:49] <karlan> Seveas, im having trouble to mount. it seems that the ntfs partition is already mounted, but in my filemanager, the icon has an red marker with an X on. what am i doing wrong?
[05:49] <Everin> ubutntu it is the only linux distribution with i have problems to install tar.gz ....why ?
[05:49] <trappist> ClayG: sudo apt-get install bum and use bum - it's a pretty handy app for managing your services
[05:49] <Seveas> karlan, mount -o remount,umask=0000
[05:49] <pavka> Where is solved problems for dapper?
[05:49] <BooZee> hello. what is "libqt3c102-mt" ?
[05:49] <Seveas> that'll remount it and set the umask :)
[05:50] <ClayG> I'll do that
[05:50] <Seveas> BooZee, a dependency of skype I guess
[05:50] <ClayG> here is another problem
[05:50] <Seveas> it's a nonexistent package
[05:50] <BooZee> Seveas: and how can I get it?
[05:50] <Seveas> BooZee, not
[05:50] <ClayG> i wake up this morning and my sshtoy/backup computer i usually ssh into gives me a warning about an RSA change and a possible man in the middle attack
[05:50] <ClayG> it wont evenlet me try to log in
[05:50] <BooZee> Seveas: synaptic syas it's not installable
[05:50] <Seveas> if it is indeed skype you're trying to install: /msg ubotu skype
[05:50] <ClayG> so i delete /home/clay/.ssh/<forgotfilename>
[05:50] <megngab> anyone who can help me how to setup my webcam in ubuntu 5.10?
[05:50] <ClayG> bascially a list of known trusted compturs
[05:51] <BooZee> Seveas: what not? I can't get it? why?
[05:51] <Seveas> BooZee, that libqt3 package does not exist in Ubuntu
[05:51] <trappist> ClayG: just remove the offending entry (ssh gives you the line number) from ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[05:51] <Seveas> you need a correct version of skype
[05:51] <chenman> jj
[05:51] <deFrysk> BooZee, if its skype get the static,deb its easyer to install , no deps
[05:51] <NoUse> !tell BooZee about skype
[05:52] <deFrysk> BooZee, if its opera same thing
[05:52] <karlan> Seveas, when i try that, i only get the helpfile for the command mount
[05:52] <BooZee> k. 10x
[05:52] <megngab> Seveas, can I use webcam in ubuntu? how?
[05:52] <bluefoxicy> there's 53 Xservers
[05:52] <karlan> ah, big 'O' :-)
[05:54] <karlan> Seveas, this is the message i get, and still not working. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5425
[05:55] <johnsie2k> is there a Firefox 1.5.deb?
[05:56] <NoUse> johnsie2k no, there are instructions to install it manually on the wiki
[05:56] <johnsie2k> arg
[05:56] <deFrysk> johnsie2k, also see /topic
[05:56] <jgrieves> johnsie2k firefox is integrated into 5.10 more than you think :)
[05:56] <johnsie2k> is that why i always have to tinker to speed things up? :-)
[05:57] <thcPoL> algun espaol?
[05:57] <thcPoL> tengo una duda...
[05:57] <jgrieves> johnsie2k nah that's just linux in generel
[05:57] <jgrieves> :)
[05:57] <Seveas> karlan, mount -o remount,umask=0000 /dev/hda1
[05:57] <Seveas> same for hdb1 and c1
[05:57] <Seveas> off even
[05:58] <rudiz> johnsie2k,https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29%7C%28version%29%7C%28new%29
[05:58] <thcPoL> tengo una duda
[05:58] <karlan> Seveas, still not working :c i did the "sudo mount -o remount,umask=0000 /dev/hda1" and entered the password. still not getting acces thou
[05:59] <thcPoL> alguien me puede ayudar?
[05:59] <johnsie2k> thanks :-)
[06:01] <ClayG> trappist: is bum a gui?
[06:01] <deFrysk> !es
[06:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:02] <rudiz> yes bum is gui
[06:03] <mamoru> i have added a new partition with cfdisk. how can i format it?
[06:03] <mamoru> and what else should i do to use it under ubuntu?
[06:04] <mrphillips> when i boot the ubuntu live cd (just got it today) once it has finished it just shows a brown screen?
[06:05] <johnsie2k> meh... too much work, too little time.
[06:05] <mrphillips> ay?
[06:05] <karlan> Seveas, got tired of me already? :-)
[06:06] <mrphillips> ne body got ne ideas why my live cd boots and then goes to a brown screen
[06:06] <SockerFot> hey, is there any way to like, LINK files from windows to my ubuntu (i am using partition)? i have loads of music on windows
[06:06] <deltron> SockerFot: samba :)
[06:06] <valles> PHP4 APACHE FIREFOX D/L problem Anyone????
[06:06] <deltron> SockerFot: you mean on the network, or locally
[06:06] <SockerFot> deltron, wich is?
[06:06] <NoUse> valles maybe if your question was more vague
[06:06] <SockerFot> i mean link between two harddrives
[06:07] <deltron> oh
[06:07] <mrphillips> is there any know compatability issues with athlon xp's?
[06:07] <NoUse> mrphillips I use ubuntu on my XP without any problem
[06:07] <valles> Ok...  I can't get firefox execute the php files... he wants to download them
[06:07] <trappist> valles: it's not firefox's fault.  it's the webserver's fault.
[06:07] <bluefoxicy> Wow
[06:08] <NoUse> valles yeah you haven't configured apache properly
[06:08] <trappist> valles: firefox doesn't execute php files.  the webserver does.
[06:08] <bluefoxicy> Thunderbird 1.0.7 uses 60M of ram (differential between output of top before and after)
[06:08] <NoUse> !tell valles about php
[06:08] <valles> trappist: ahhmm I see
[06:08] <mrphillips> mine boots and does all its stuff and then just goes to a brown screen
[06:08] <bluefoxicy> and Thunderbird 1.5rc1 uses 26M
[06:08] <valles> trappist: I did eerything on the wiki
[06:08] <SockerFot> oh NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
[06:08] <deltron> easy, you mount the drive, like mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs or something like that
[06:08] <valles> trappist: and It still doesn't work
[06:08] <deltron> SockerFot: ^^
[06:08] <SockerFot> oooooooooh noooo no. my sound has stopped working
[06:09] <deltron> bbl
[06:09] <deltron> lunchtime
[06:09] <trappist> valles: apache2 or 1.3.x?
[06:09] <valles> trappist: have been pn it for two days... and it reeks...
[06:09] <SockerFot> jesus f-cking christ. my sound! :(:(:(
[06:09] <valles> trappist: 2
[06:09] <valles> trappist: apache 2 php4
[06:09] <trappist> valles: php4 or 5
[06:09] <mrphillips> brown screen anyone?
[06:09] <trappist> oops
[06:09] <valles> trappist: php4
[06:10] <NoUse> SockerFot I think we heard you the first time
[06:10] <valles> I noticed that in my etc folder I have apache and apache2 folders...
[06:10] <trappist> valles: sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4* /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[06:10] <NoUse> valles ubotu sent you a link to a wiki article on how to set up PHP
[06:11] <trappist> valles: or use a2enmod
[06:11] <valles> NoUse: I was on that wiki for two days I have had enough...
[06:11] <NetGrunt> hi
[06:11] <NoUse> valles have you read this article?
[06:12] <NetGrunt> does anybody know how can I play .wmv video files on ubuntu ?? thanks
[06:12] <valles> NoUse: yes...
[06:12] <karlan> anyone who got a Logitech MX510 or another mouse that has back/forward buttons?
[06:12] <valles> trappist: i'll check...
[06:12] <NoUse> valles thats what I used, it worked great
[06:12] <trucmuch> bonsoir
[06:12] <trappist> valles: any php4 goodies in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled?
[06:12] <SockerFot> how do i identify my sound card?
[06:13] <trappist> SockerFot: lspci
[06:13] <trucmuch> comenkon monte une partition fat 32 avec toute permisssion pour tous tou simplement ?
[06:13] <jkelly2005> im having some problems with /etc/fstab, i need to mount a separate partition that i can write to. i can mount the partition as a user but i need to be root to write to the partition, any ideas on what i could do?
[06:13] <trappist> !fr
[06:13] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[06:13] <karlan> NetGrunt, VLC reads wmv-files if im not misstaken
[06:13] <trucmuch> oups sorry
[06:13] <trappist> jkelly2005: mount with umask=0 or uid=1000
[06:13] <jkelly2005> ok, thanks
[06:14] <trappist> !tell NetGrunt about w32codecs
[06:14] <valles> trappist: i checked and there were a lot of files
[06:14] <valles> trappist: php4.conf and php4.load
[06:16] <valles> trappist: does that help?
[06:16] <trappist> valles: have you restarted apache2 lately? have you checked your logs?
[06:16] <valles> I have restarted a couple of tmes... not after the link I just made
[06:18] <mamoru> how to format a partiiton
[06:18] <mamoru> ?
[06:19] <valles> trappist: are you there
[06:19] <chrisx1> can any1 access http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:20] <_jason> chrisx1, yes
[06:20] <trappist> valles: you just made those links? they're vital.  restart apache2 and try again.
[06:20] <mamoru> chrisx1, yes
[06:20] <_jason> chrisx1, well it says "placeholder page"
[06:20] <chrisx1> ty its debian apache?
[06:20] <chrisx1> ta ppl
[06:20] <chrisx1> yay
[06:20] <chrisx1> port forward works
[06:20] <vir> do anybody know from which package i get a "/etc/init.d/cpufrequtils"? I've install "cpufrequtils" but there are no init scripts
[06:21] <valles> trappist: They were there before
[06:21] <trappist> valles: check your apache2 logs
[06:21] <yapyccky> hello, how is possible to make the movement of toutchpad slower?..its too fast now...
[06:21] <valles> trappist: where?
[06:22] <valles> trappist: where?
[06:22] <trappist> valles: /var/log/apache2/error.log
[06:23] <valles> trappist: I have two files... error.log and error.log.1
[06:23] <AlexRM> Hey,
[06:23] <grae> loking for help with new install on dual AMD machine
[06:24] <AlexRM> I just installed UT2004 - but when I go to the directory (/usr/var/games) or what ever it is, If I type ut2004 it doesn't work. But if I type sudo ut2004 it works
[06:24] <AlexRM> why is this? can't I run it as a noremal user
[06:25] <valles> trappist: [Sat Dec 03 18:12:03 2005]  [error]  [client <IP_ADDRESS>]  File does not exist: /var/www/favicon.ico
[06:25] <valles> [Sat Dec 03 18:30:37 2005]  [notice]  caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[06:25] <trappist> valles: that's not it
[06:25] <trappist> and today's not dec 3
[06:25] <valles> trappist: there is nothing on the other one
[06:26] <grae> installed the latest release on dual 275 but OS only sees 1 cpu
[06:26] <trappist> valles: use tail to look at the end of the logfile
[06:26] <valles> trappist: caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[06:26] <valles> PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4.2 configured -- resuming normal operations
[06:27] <valles> that's the last line
[06:27] <valles> repeated three times
[06:28] <trappist> valles: grep AddType /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.conf
[06:31] <Zaphod_42> hi
[06:32] <thomerz> hi, how do i set an application as default for an filetype?
[06:32] <valles> trappist: IT WORKED...
[06:33] <trappist> heh
[06:33] <valles> trappist: MY APACHE ejecutes PHP4....
[06:33] <Milleniumgroup> anyone using gaim? how do i add new themes? I tried to place  folder in the same area the themes are saved..it doesn't work.. it doesn't show up...any ideas?
[06:33] <valles> trappist: You are a Genious...
[06:33] <valles> trappist: thanks for not reffering me to the wiki again and for you patience...
[06:33] <trappist> valles: I didn't tell you to do anything that's not in the wiki, just so you know
[06:33] <valles> trappist: your undying patience...
[06:34] <NoUse> Milleniumgroup it's in preferences, you open the smiley chooser and drag and drop themes in there
[06:36] <mrphillips> has anyone got any ideas why my live cd boots to a brown screen ive googled it and people with mac's have had similiar problems, i have an amd athlon xp, and badger version of ubuntu
[06:36] <NetGrunt> trappist, thanks for the tip about w32 codecs, it works!!
[06:36] <chemaFPA> Hi, I use xubuntu, Xorg work perfect, but late I install xdm and dont start. Simply try to run, and then back to the terminal without any error, Startx work perfectly
[06:36] <trappist> shore does :)
[06:37] <trappist> chemaFPA: how are you running xdm
[06:37] <digitize> !backports
[06:37] <ubotu> well, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.   And in the terminal with "sudo xdm"
[06:38] <Talisker> Ok, so I installed grub over lilo on hd0, and now my system won't load, I get "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1)
[06:38] <lluis> Anyone has a NOKIA D211 PCMCIA card working?
[06:39] <Seveas> Talisker, either menu.lst is bad or your initrd is broken
[06:40] <ReleaseX> what is better to use, nvidia cards or ati cards
[06:40] <Seveas> ReleaseX, ati
[06:40] <zlaja> guys how do i shut down x server? without uninstalling it as someone else said
[06:40] <trappist> ReleaseX: nvidia
[06:40] <ReleaseX> seveas, ok thanks
[06:40] <Seveas> zlaja, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:40] <digitize> Seveas: you think? for linux?
[06:40] <zlaja> thanks!
[06:40] <Milleniumgroup> zlaja ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:40] <digitize> i'm not disagreeing, just curious
[06:40] <jgrieves> Seveas i think you were helping my yesterday with gdmflexiserver --xnest, which opens up a window for me, and then closes with no errors
[06:40] <Seveas> digitize, yeah, with their latest commercial drivers they win that part again
[06:41] <digitize> ah i see
[06:41] <Seveas> and the open source ati drivers beat the hell out of the open source nvidia drivers
[06:41] <trappist> nvidia has a better history (imo) of supporting linux, and nvidia drivers don't b0rk your display when you turn composite on.  and nvidia's drivers are easier to install.
[06:41] <Talisker> so what do I do about that?
[06:41] <Seveas> jgrieves, not impossible, I remember helping someone with gdmflexiserver --xnest
[06:41] <digitize> it doesn't matter too much either way i suppose, i have an old nvidia card, not being a gamer and all
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. got an external usb hard drive with 2 partitions.. it was seen and auto mounted fine.. but partition 1 got put on /media/usbdisk whild 2 was put on /media/sda2   -  anyone have a clue where to look to make it use sda1 instead? or should i just manually mount the thing.
[06:41] <B_166-ER-X> legacy !
[06:41] <jgrieves> Seveas any ideas on that problem?  Xnest seems to laod fine
[06:42] <Seveas> jgrieves, what was the problem again?
[06:42] <jgrieves> Seveas but gdmflexiserver --xnest opens a new window, loads a black background and then closes
[06:42] <Talisker> Seveas, would reinstalling lilo help?
[06:42] <jgrieves> when run from term no error
[06:42] <Seveas> Talisker, maybe
[06:42] <Seveas> jgrieves, that's weird..
[06:42] <Seveas> did you install the xnest package and do you normally use gdm or kdm?
[06:43] <jgrieves> Seveas lol
[06:43] <jgrieves> Seveas installed xnest
[06:43] <Talisker> I don't know, I use gdm
[06:43] <jgrieves> Seveas gdm usually
[06:43] <Seveas> jgrieves, gdmfexiserver will only function in a gdm controlled environment
[06:44] <Seveas> Talisker, that question was for jgrieves ;)
[06:44] <jgrieves> Seveas ok, it seems to be?
[06:44] <smo> I could be wrong (my ubuntu machines are headless), but doesn't gdm drop logs in /var/logs ?  If there's no errors on the terminal, that's where I'd look next
[06:44] <Seveas> smo, indeed
[06:44] <jgrieves> hmm insteresting
[06:45] <Seveas> jgrieves, try smo's suggestion and look at the logs
[06:45] <jgrieves> will check logs
[06:45] <jgrieves> Seveas but now its complaining about .Xauthority
[06:45] <jgrieves> not being setup correctly
[06:45] <Seveas> after logging in?
[06:45] <jgrieves> Seveas course that is with using sudo gdm...
[06:45] <Marco`> hi
[06:45] <Seveas> nono
[06:45] <Seveas> no sudo
[06:45] <jgrieves> ok, was just for kicks, checking logs
[06:45] <Marco`> how to get onboard networking on my nForce2 working..
[06:45] <B7su4> how can i play mp3?
[06:46] <Seveas> Marco`, modprobe forcedeth
[06:46] <Marco`> is loaded
[06:46] <Seveas> !tell B7su4 about mp3
[06:46] <korhalf> any of you guys ever try Quod Libet?
[06:46] <cristian> hello everybody
[06:46] <korhalf> i think its the best mp3 player around, i used to be a BMP fan
[06:46] <Milleniumgroup> nvm I solved it.. I had a wrong tarball
[06:47] <m4v1s> i am still having trouble resizing my ntfs partition to fit ubuntu on my laptop
[06:47] <m4v1s> im currently on the live cd version
[06:47] <mrkoje> is there anything like crossover office besides wine... that is somewhat free
[06:47] <jgrieves> Seveas smo, after clearing gdm logs and re-running no log in /var/log/gdm/
[06:47] <Seveas> mrkoje, cedega
[06:47] <mrkoje> sevas: thanks
[06:47] <Seveas> jgrieves, in Xorg.0.log?
[06:47] <Marco`> B7su4: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+%2B+mp3&btnG=Google+Search
[06:47] <EdLin> mrkoje, you can get the cvs version of cedega for free, but the regular, complete and less buggy version, is commercial.
[06:48] <Marco`> Seveas: any more suggestions on my network chip
[06:48] <Marco`> never worked w/ Debian too
[06:48] <jgrieves> Seveas smo, oh thre it is xnest warning: unhandled event
[06:48] <Seveas> Marco`, if forcedeth doesn't solve it: -ENOCLUE
[06:49] <zlaja> how was i supposed to type to shut down x server and start it again?
[06:49] <zlaja> sorry but i need to type it down on a paper ;D
[06:49] <m4v1s> should i resize the ntfs partition with the livecd tool or use the install disk?
[06:49] <Marco`> zlaja ctrl-alt-backspace ?
[06:49] <Seveas> zlaja, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[06:49] <trappist> m4v1s: either is fine.  use windows to defrag it first though.
[06:49] <m4v1s> of course
[06:50] <zlaja> thanks once again guys :D
[06:50] <m4v1s> thank you
[06:50] <jgrieves> Seveas smo, (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)
[06:50] <jgrieves> Seveas smo, xnest warning: unhandled event
[06:50] <m4v1s> btw, how much space does ubuntu require?
[06:50] <xptk> hi, why ubuntu if I have debian, I need to know your advantages
[06:51] <m4v1s> ive heard 3 gigs 6 gigs 10+ im not going to use it as my primary os but id like to be able to use it and have space...
[06:52] <EdLin> xptk, more recent and well integrated desktop software
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> What can I use to reference "any file in this directory plus any files in any subdirectories"?  Like a super-*.* kind of thing.
[06:52] <devilz_> hi, can i ask how can i kill ipp 631 tcp port?
[06:53] <zlaja> ctrl-alt-backspace only logs me out
[06:53] <m4v1s> thanks for the help guys...
[06:53] <zlaja> how do i shut down x server?
[06:54] <zlaja> sorry but this is my first time using linux =)
[06:54] <EdLin> zlaja, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:54] <zlaja> thank you =)
[06:54] <EdLin> zlaja, why do you want to do it?
[06:54] <zlaja> have to install nvidia driver
[06:55] <EdLin> zlaja, Ubuntu comes with nvidia drivers
[06:55] <zlaja> not gfx drivers
[06:55] <zlaja> or atleast they aint up to date
[06:55] <EdLin> zlaja, it does, in the repositories
[06:55] <EdLin> zlaja, sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[06:55] <zlaja> allright =)
[06:56] <EdLin> zlaja,  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:56] <EdLin> zlaja, then restart X and poof, you've got hardware accel
[06:56] <zlaja> whoa =)
[06:57] <zlaja> i restart X by simply logging out and in?
[06:57] <EdLin> zlaja, no, control-alt-backspace
[06:57] <zlaja> oh
[06:57] <zlaja> thanks =)
[06:58] <toronto> hola
[06:58] <holycow> any suggestions on how to remove all the packages associated with kde desktop environment metapackage?
[06:58] <xptk> hola
[06:58] <tidi> thanks folks for having this chat site because we sure need it us newbees
[06:58] <toronto> que tal'
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> I got a bunch of files with spaces in the filenames; is there any easy way to "fix" all of the names to be spaceless?  (Either by replacing with an underscore or just closing them up.)
[06:59] <xptk> toronto, conoces bien ubuntu?
[06:59] <EdLin> holycow, if you installed them with aptitude, removing the kubuntu metapackage will do it. Otherwise you're on your own...
[06:59] <toronto> si
[06:59] <toronto> por
[06:59] <tidi> hola
[06:59] <EdLin> holycow, maybe removing Qt and kdelib will get most of them.
[06:59] <holycow> EdLin, aptitutde cannot remove metapackage and its dependencies if installed via apt alone?
[06:59] <holycow> EdLin, oh thats a great idea
[06:59] <xptk> es que me acabo de comprar un porttil y estaba pensando en la posibilidad de instalselo
[06:59] <xptk> crees que es una buena idea?
[07:00] <nickrud> holycow, I used to do the remove libqt3-mt route, it works ok
[07:00] <xptk> o mejor linux?
[07:00] <EdLin> holycow, aptitude keeps track of things well only if you use it instead of apt a lot.
[07:00] <ryan__> What is on the 5 cds that can be sent through the mail?
[07:00] <holycow> EdLin, ah okay, good to know. thx
[07:00] <tidi> install version and preview
[07:00] <holycow> nickrud, i was just going to ask that, thanks :)  i only want to get rid of most of kde, i'm not fussy about every tiny little app
[07:01] <eSPete> how do i make the font bigger in xterm?
[07:01] <EdLin> holycow, yep, Qt oughta nuke most of them
[07:01] <smo> tonyyarusso: rename 's/ /_/g' *  (replace * with something more sane if you don't want to match *everything*)
[07:01] <nickrud> holycow, about the only thing left after libqt is the sound stuff, if I remember right
[07:01] <tidi> also yu can get a mac version  of ubuntu
[07:01] <holycow> nickrud, allright, great
[07:01] <EdLin> eSPete, in gnome's terminal program it's in the menus.
[07:02] <eSPete> i dont use the gnome term, i use xterm
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> smo: That sounds good, but out of curiosity, what does that mean?  (The s and g in particular.)
[07:02] <EdLin> eSPete, you may need to fool with resource files.
[07:02] <eSPete> EdLin, does xterm not have any conf files?
[07:03] <EdLin> eSPete, it uses merged resource files
[07:03] <eSPete> EdLin, which is?
[07:03] <EdLin> eSPete, create a resource file and make it merged with xrdb
[07:03] <tidi> later guys aand gals great site
[07:03] <EdLin> eSPete, the settings for the resource file are in xterm's manpage
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> smo: Oh, it's some sort of perl thing, isn't it?
[07:04] <smo> tonyyarusso: yup.  I believe the g makes it replace every match rather than just the first.  I'm not sure what the s is .. it's simply been there in every replace pattern I've used
[07:04] <EdLin> eSPete, a good starting sample .Xdefaults file is somewhere on stevens-tech.edu, others are out there too. Google
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> smo: I see.  Thanks.
[07:07] <Talisker> wait, the root argument passed to the kernel... should it point to the system root partition or to the grub root partition?
[07:07] <ClayG> eSPete: there is also a confg/text file for the gnome terminal
[07:07] <tucoz> Too bad there is no firefox 1.5 for breezy as of yet. Anyway, running it from a local dir works fine, and man what a different browsing experience it is.
[07:08] <Taa5i_> Could someone offer some insight into installing Ubuntu onto a software RAID-1 configured during install please?
[07:08] <ClayG> I was wondering how to make it stay a certain size when i launched the terminal, and couldnt find the answer anywhere, i finally found it. I had to find and edit a termcap file
[07:08] <tucoz> But I read in the forums that it is a cumbersome task to backport it, so I am happy as it is.
[07:08] <Taa5i_> I have as far as creating two identical sets of partitions on the two devices and setting them as RAID autodetect.
[07:09] <Talisker> My ubuntu kernel is on /dev/hda1, but grub is installed on /dev/hda3, so which one should be passed at root=/dev/hd[x]  ?
[07:09] <doru> hi all
[07:09] <smo> Talisker: the root= partition is mounted as /
[07:09] <Taa5i_> Talisker: /dev/hda
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> smo: Are you sure I don't need a backslash to escape the space character?
[07:09] <jgw__> heya doru
[07:09] <Talisker> Taa5i_, /dev/hda or /dev/hda1 ?
[07:09] <doru> somebody has Pinnacle TV Card saa7134?
[07:10] <doru> i cant configure it
[07:10] <smo> tonyyarusso: it works for me as is, I think because the whole pattern 's/ /_/g' is quoted.  but it probably won't hurt
[07:10] <doru> i just received the cd s and installed ubuntu
[07:10] <EdLin> doru, I have a working tv tuner card, what's the problem?
[07:11] <smo> tonyyarusso: perl's regexes are one of those black arts I try not to understand, just remember a few recipies that work, and google for examples when I need more
[07:11] <doru> i need the saa 7134 module when i give modprobe saa 7134 it can t find it
[07:11] <jgw__> doru: if you do a google search for 'ubuntu breezy "pinnacle tv"' some seemingly useful forum posts come up
[07:11] <tidi> how do i change my display res back to 1028 it reset it selt to 800 by
[07:11] <jrw146> Trappist: Well, I tried the ctrl+alt+f3. it got me to the command line spot, but nothing was accomplished. Sure, I could log in, but I still cant get a working system.
[07:11] <doru> ok
[07:12] <doru> i m coming from mandriva to ubuntu so i tried here
[07:12] <EdLin> doru, I have a Hauppauge WinTV, despite the name it works. ;-)
[07:12] <djk_> what could be the cause of a sudden increase in load average.. and i'm talking about 0.10 to over 15.00
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> smo: Okay.
[07:12] <doru> za zours is with bt 878 chipset
[07:12] <jgw__> djk: an app freaking out
[07:12] <jgw__> djk: investigate with ps or top
[07:12] <zOrK> can i upgrade from haory to breeze?
[07:13] <osfameron> tonyyarusso: you don't need to escape the space, though you could write it \s (which also matches tabs).  Actually, you could just do tr/ /_/ which is faster (it just transliterates single characters)
[07:13] <jgw__> z0rk: yes, put the breezy cd in your hoary machine and it'll upgrade
[07:13] <EdLin> doru, on older kernels I have to specify tuner=39, but Breezy has a kernel new enough that this is unnecessary
[07:13] <osfameron> anyone got one of those 3G data cards to work with ubuntu?
[07:13] <djk_> jgw__: of course, but during this i was unable to do anything.
[07:13] <tucoz> doru, maybe this will help a bit: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_saa7134
[07:13] <osfameron> I'm really tempted, but it's certainly advertised as being win only (not even sure mac)
[07:14] <doru> tnx edlin
[07:14] <doru> tnx i ll trz and come with news ab what i can do
[07:14] <doru> or not
[07:14] <EdLin> doru, that advice is not helpful for your problem, chances are it uses a different chipset
[07:14] <djk_> jgw__: thus unable to check. and other than a browser/amarok/gaim nothing was running.
[07:14] <doru> ya my chipset is Philips saa 7134
[07:14] <zOrK> jgw__: thanks!, and can i do a apt-get upgrade from haory to breezy?
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> osfameron: Thanks for the tip.
[07:15] <EdLin> z0rz, use dist-upgrade, not plain upgrade
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> smo & osfameron: Can I make this apply to anything in any number of subfolders to?
[07:16] <ClayG> in gnome what does a red box with an X in it mean attached to an icon?
[07:16] <zOrK> thanks
[07:16] <EdLin> np
[07:16] <ClayG> I just browsed a NFS shared directory that had locks on the icons, I dropped into cli and chmod 777 *
[07:16] <tidi> any help in terminal for change of  resolution mine is locked on 800x
[07:17] <ClayG> and now when browsing them a red box with white x is also attached, and so is the lock!
[07:17] <ClayG> tidi what do you mean in res?
[07:17] <EdLin> tidi, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:17] <ClayG> you mean when you launch terminal the size it is?
[07:17] <tidi> my resultion i can't change from  desk top
[07:17] <tidi> yes
[07:18] <karlan> is there any swedish people here?
[07:18] <osfameron> tonyyarusso: sure.  Are you doing it in perl or bash?
[07:18] <ClayG> I dont think we are speaking about the same things. I think you are talking about screen size/resolution
[07:18] <tucoz> karlan, sure
[07:18] <tidi> yes yu right sorry
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> Bash, but apparently this references perl, so I'm not really sure.
[07:18] <ClayG> system>admin>screen size
[07:19] <pinguino> hi all
[07:19] <tidi> clay is this the command for it in terminal?
[07:20] <pinguino> i have a problem post installation
[07:20] <pinguino> the installation went good, but after rebooting i see only a frozen psichedelyc screen and the mouse arrow... tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but nothing... any hint?
[07:20] <jrw146> Any clues as to why I can't actually get into the desktop? Just finished installing, it finished doing the initial unpackaging, but instead of bringing me to the desktop, I end up at a blank screen. No nothing.
[07:21] <tucoz> tidi, I believe that is the menus you should enter to change the resolution
[07:21] <tucoz> in gnome
[07:21] <pinguino> maybe we have a similar problem, jrw146
[07:21] <tidi> i tried that but it won't leet me change it
[07:21] <jrw146> pinguino: I agree, its something similar. But I'm not even getting a cursor
[07:21] <tidi> i try ok
[07:22] <jgw__> bah i was going to write a cool little applet for gnome, and someone already stole my idea and wrote it ;) (Zenity)
[07:22] <tucoz> jrw146, pine: what graphics card do you have?
[07:22] <pinguino> i saw something on the wiki about black screen, but don't remember exactly where, jcw
[07:22] <tucoz> *pinguino, I meant
[07:22] <osfameron> tonyyarusso: you could do something like:  for file in `find | xarg`; do your_rename_command $file; done
[07:22] <jrw146> tucoz: Geforce4 MX PCI 32mb. ooold card, but in perfect working order
[07:22] <Earthpig> Anyone here know awk?
[07:22] <tucoz> I had something similar when I installed. I have a ati x700 mobile.
[07:22] <jgw__> earth: a lot of us do, i'm sure
[07:23] <Earthpig> ok. substr($0,0,3) -- should return 3 chars, right?
[07:23] <Earthpig> Under OpenBSD's awk and gawk, it does.
[07:23] <tucoz> That needed some tweaking to get running.
[07:23] <tucoz> That is the xorg.conf file
[07:23] <Earthpig> But under mawk (the Debian/Ubuntu default) it returns only 2.
[07:24] <pinguino> tucoz, i have an ATI 9250
[07:24] <jrw146> tucoz: I dont even know how to access such a file, and even if I Could, I have no clue what to do to it.
[07:24] <patrik_> 7quit
[07:24] <Earthpig> to test: echo 1234 | awk '{print substr($0,0,3)}'
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> osfameron: I'm going to pretend that was English, and try desperately to decipher this.
[07:24] <michi> algun espaol?
[07:25] <crimsun> michi: ubuntu-es
[07:25] <smo> osfameron: I tried that, but rename applies it to the directory name too, which breaks find (once "foo foo/match one" becomes "foo_foo/match_one", find's next match "foo foo/match two" doesn't exist anymore)
[07:25] <Earthpig> Hrm. Guess not many do know awk. :)
[07:25] <jgw__> earth: looks like its a known issue with mawk
[07:25] <jgw__> it SHOULD do 3, but doesnt
[07:25] <tucoz> pinguino, jrw146: I had to set the driver to 'vesa' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get it running. Then I installed the official ati-drivers from ati.com
[07:25] <Earthpig> ah ok. didn't think i was crazy.
[07:26] <Earthpig> jgw: got a reference for that?
[07:26] <osfameron> smo: aha!  well, I did say "something like" :-)
[07:26] <jgw__> i found it in google
[07:26] <jrw146> tucoz: How do you actually go about doing that though?
[07:26] <jgw__> on a gnu.org list
[07:26] <jgw__> earth: still playing
[07:26] <Earthpig> worth entering up in ubuntu bugzilla?
[07:26] <osfameron> I have trouble getting find and xargs stuff to work properly myself...
[07:27] <tucoz> jrw146, make a copy of xorg.conf; cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf_back
[07:27] <osfameron> smo, tonyyarusso: how about: for file in `find | xargs`; do mv $file ${file// /_}; done
[07:27] <tucoz> jrw146, sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:27] <jgw__> earth: i cant speak for the ubuntu folks, but i would
[07:27] <Earthpig> osfameron: bad idea
[07:27] <jgw__> earth: enough stuff uses awk that i'm concerned
[07:28] <osfameron> Earthpig: I thought it might be :-)  why specifically?
[07:28] <tucoz> jrw146, find the Section "Device", and change the driver to vesa.
[07:28] <Earthpig> osfameron: whitespace in filenames.
[07:28] <jgw__> earth: it doesnt work as the mawk manpage states, so it == bug
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> Earthpig: Do you know a fix for that?
[07:29] <Rex> I'm trying to get PHP working on my ubuntu box. I put a file test.php in /var/www, but when I go to it with a web browser it prompts me to open it with another application. When I open it in a text editor, I see that the PHP was parsed correctly (no more <? tags)
[07:29] <Earthpig> tony: I normally use -print0 | xargs -0
[07:29] <Rex> Why?
[07:29] <jrw146> tucoz: But do this how? Boot into recovery mode?
[07:29] <Earthpig> and i have a shell script called mvalt.
[07:29] <Earthpig> (takes the dest as the first argument)
[07:29] <jgw__> earthpig: looks like a bug that's been around for at least a year
[07:29] <karlan> Rex, have you associated .php-ending in apache? (if using apache)
[07:29] <Earthpig> then i can go: find blah -print0 | xargs -0 mvalt
[07:29] <osfameron> Earthpig: heh, yes of course, it doesn't work
[07:30] <tucoz> jrw146, you can enter a virtual terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+f1
[07:30] <Rex> I'm using apache, I haven't really done anything with it.
[07:30] <jgw__> earth: use gawk?
[07:30] <Earthpig> jgw: yeah I'm flipping to that now.
[07:30] <tucoz> and return to x by pressing ctrl+alt+f6 or f7 i think
[07:30] <karlan> Rex, the thing is, you have to associate the .php-ending in your config. hold on
[07:30] <Rex> karlan: how can I do that?
[07:30] <karlan> Rex, will find tutorial, hold on
[07:30] <Rex> okay
[07:30] <Earthpig> ubuntu-minimal depends on mawk. sigh.
[07:31] <tucoz> jrw146, you could also try and set up xorg again, by running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:31] <testmachine> hm
[07:31] <testmachine> breezy installed
[07:31] <testmachine> hehe
[07:31] <testmachine> did an upgradeto dapper
[07:31] <testmachine> but that didnt went allright
[07:31] <testmachine> *grin*
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> now time to do a clean install of dapper?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:32] <testmachine> nah
[07:32] <testmachine> had this breezy cd
[07:32] <testmachine> so installed breezy
[07:32] <karlan> Rex, look at this guide: http://www.hostlibrary.com/installing_apache_mysql_php_on_linux
[07:32] <gsnedders> i installed php4 via apt, but it doesn't appear to have the CLI for PHP. How can I add the CLI?
[07:32] <Rex> karlan: cool, thanks.
[07:33] <karlan> you can skip the first steps if you already installed it. hold on, will look for the right line
[07:34] <tucoz> jrw146, good luck. Gotta run.
[07:34] <jgw__> gsnedders: apt-cache search php4-cli
[07:34] <jrw146> tucoz: Thanks, but its not working so far....
[07:34] <karlan> Rex, Private message soon
[07:34] <jgw__> gsnedders: err apt-cache show php4-cli
[07:34] <CarinArr> hey i have a quick question.. i'm using a dell inspiron laptop with a touchpad AND a rubber pointer thing in the middle of the keyboard (if you know what i mean).. does anyone know how to leave the rubber pointer thing enabled while disabling the touchpad?
[07:34] <gsnedders> jgw__:thanks
[07:34] <Earthpig> jgw: If I submit the bug, will you add a few of the URLs you found?
[07:35] <jgw__> earth: no ;) but its an easy issue to duplicate, and you could paste that gnu.org url i msg'ed you
[07:35] <crimsun> Earthpig: actually that's not a bug
[07:36] <jgw__> earth: its easy to duplicate: read manpage for awk & substr(), echo "1234567" | blah blah
[07:36] <crimsun> Earthpig: 1003.2 does not specify that index must be '0'
[07:36] <crimsun> echo 1234 | awk '{print substr($0,1,3)}'
[07:36] <crimsun> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-utils/2004-09/msg00083.html
[07:36] <jgw__> crimsun: its the string length that doesnt work, not the indexing
[07:36] <Belutz> I just know that ubuntu is #26 in PC World's The 100 Best Products of 2005
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> Belutz,  :P
[07:37] <karlan> doesnt firefox 1.5 work in ubuntu?
[07:37] <Belutz> :)
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> Belutz,  they got some really lame things in that top 100 however.  their WORST 10 is more fun.
[07:37] <Belutz> thanks to all ubuntu developers
[07:37] <jgw__> crimsun: huh, well thats whacky
[07:37] <Dasnipa`> where is the worst 10?
[07:38] <Belutz> Dr_Willis, well at least people who read pc world now knows ubuntu ;)
[07:38] <Dasnipa`> is #1 M$?
[07:38] <Dasnipa`> #1 on worst 10 that is
[07:38] <Belutz> #1 is firefox
[07:38] <Belutz> oh
[07:39] <Dasnipa`> #2 is gmail i know that
[07:39] <Dasnipa`> on the best list
[07:39] <Earthpig> crimsun: So it's really a bug that n is undefined?
[07:39] <Earthpig> sorry, i?
[07:39] <Milleniumgroup> http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,120763,pg,12,00.asp
[07:39] <Milleniumgroup> :)
[07:39] <peladillas> ss
[07:40] <jgw__> earth: i'd still consider it a bug or at least an "undesirable condition"
[07:40] <Milleniumgroup> how the hell can # Zone Labs ZoneAlarm Antivirus Antivirus and Firewall Software
[07:40] <lucaslira> How can I generate .iso of my HD for never lost my configurations?????
[07:40] <Milleniumgroup> be 11th place?
[07:40] <jgw__> mill: they paid for it
[07:40] <crimsun> Earthpig: it's a possible candidate for a wishlist bug in mawk, yes, but I wouldn't say that it's RC-level
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> lucaslira,  chech out "Mondo/Mindi" it can backup to cdroms and so forth.
[07:41] <jgw__> kickbacks due wonders to top 10 lists
[07:41] <lucaslira> thanks
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> What's the command line file search tool?
[07:42] <osfameron> Earthpig: find -print0 | xargs -0 isn't doing the right thing at all...
[07:42] <osfameron> at least for file in `...` is still splitting on internal whitespace
[07:43] <hostix> hey