[00:00] <chaos2358> Ampelbein,  thank you very much. that is all i needed to know and the reason i simply asked for someone familiar with the program was to bypass the usual "thats illegal, it's un ethical, take that elsewhere" comments that arise when some one asks such a question to the general public.
[00:00] <mylisto> Pici: when I use the following command to restart apache "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" I get
[00:00] <mylisto> (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[00:00] <mylisto> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[00:00] <mylisto> Unable to open logs
[00:00] <mylisto> whoops
[00:00] <FloodBot1> mylisto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:01] <mylisto> (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80...no listening sockets available, shutting down..Unable to open logs
[00:01] <skutr3_> hello?
[00:01] <Ampelbein> chaos2358: (off topic, so my last comment on that matter here) the question about the purpose of a command/program isn't illegal as such. you can use many programs for illegal stuff.
[00:02] <Pici> mylisto: Do you already have something already running on port 80? check   sudo netstat -tanp | grep ":80"
[00:02] <skutr3_> ok so videos and music on the internet cut out. i think it might be a flash problem... can anyone help?
[00:02] <Ampelbein> skutr3_: depends, what flash library are you using, what browser, what hardware?
[00:03] <mylisto> pici: heres the output from that command
[00:03] <mylisto> http://wordpress.pastebin.com/GZngbzBU
[00:03] <chaos2358> Ampelbein,  (agreed about being off topic) however MAny people in the channels have certain opinions which they choose to throw around quite liberally and are an utter waste of time, energy and channel traffic, But once again, thank you and have a good evening.
[00:04] <skutr3_> Ampelbein: im using the flash plugin installed by default on ubuntu installation with google chrome (same problem on firefox)
[00:05] <Ampelbein> skutr3_: can you run 'dpkg -l | grep flash' and tell me what it says? use pastebin if it's multiple lines please
[00:05] <Pici> mylisto: Okay, now try: ps aux
[00:05] <Pici> mylisto: Okay, now try: ps aux | grep httpd
[00:06] <skutr3_>  Ampelbein : ii  flashplugin-installer                <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>                                 Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[00:06] <mylisto> here Pici: http://wordpress.pastebin.com/1gmVfgpC
[00:07] <Pici> mylisto: It looks like you're using some third-party lamp stack.
[00:07] <itaylor57> skutr3_: I am running the same and I can view flash ok
[00:07] <mylisto> ok...
[00:08] <mylisto> like xammp?
[00:08] <Pici> mylisto: Just like that.
[00:08] <skutr3_> itaylor57: hmmmm
[00:08] <Ampelbein> skutr3_: what processor type do you have?
[00:08] <Tech_Support> xxamp is for mac people
[00:08] <skutr3_> Ampelbein: amd dual core
[00:08] <Pici> mylisto: Is there a reason you aren't using the versions of apache/mysql/etc that are in the Ubuntu repositiories?
[00:08] <mylisto> no idea...
[00:08] <mylisto> I'm a complete noob with this stuff
[00:08] <mylisto> how can I delete lamp/xammp and start from scratch?
[00:09] <Ampelbein> skutr3_: 32 or 64 bit ubuntu?
[00:09] <Pici> mylisto: I don't know, how did you install it?
[00:09] <skutr3_> Ampelbein: 64 bit
[00:09] <magn3ts> Reminna won't open. In terminal it prints out a lot of information but no errors. Any tips? Strace gives nothing useful...
[00:09] <mylisto> I can't remember...
[00:09] <mylisto> think via command lines...
[00:09] <mylisto> I just installed apache a few minutes ago via sudo apt-get install php5 libapache2-mod-php5
[00:10] <mylisto> can I just delete lamp/xampp and redo everything correctly?
[00:10] <Ampelbein> skutr3_: ok, and what graphics adapter are you using? if it's nvidia, what driver?
[00:10] <skutr3_> Ampelbein: how do i check that?
[00:11] <Ampelbein> skutr3_: 'lspci | grep VGA'
[00:11] <ramon> i have installed a PPA for gimp painter
[00:11] <skutr3_> Ampelbein: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics]
[00:11] <jacekowski> hi
[00:12] <Pici> mylisto: I'd *guess* that you'd need to delete /opt/lampp, but unfortunately xampp's documentation is blank in the 'uninstalling xampp' section.
[00:12] <ramon> now how can i install gimp painter?
[00:12] <ramon> the ppa is from Mizuno
[00:13] <jacekowski> i have strange problem with my xorg, sometimes ( every 2-3 times ) instead of normal kdm i get that xorg failsafe window saying that xorg had problem starting and after selecting to restart xorg everything works fine
[00:13] <jacekowski> i'm using nvidia drivers
[00:13] <bisu[Shield]> I am having a major problem install mysql 5.5 using the rpm as opposed to a mere apt-get update which installs 5.1. I get the following error: http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=35761&seen=true&numbered=on&langoverride=asm
[00:13] <jacekowski> is it known problem?
[00:13] <jacekowski> bisu[Shield]: don't use rpms on ubuntu
[00:13] <jacekowski> bisu[Shield]: make your own deb or something
[00:14] <goldeneye> hello : i have an external monitor and ubuntu 10.10 installed n my laptop. whenever i connect it to my monitor and switch to the bigger screen and start typing on keyboard, it just flickers and puts me back on the laptop screen. Any idea?
[00:14] <Mission_Control> nope
[00:14] <Ampelbein> skutr3_: can you try right-clicking a flash video, go to settings and enable/disable hardware acceleration and see if that helps?
[00:14] <Mission_Control> I have four monitors
[00:14] <mylisto> ok Pici; xampp is deleted
[00:14] <Mission_Control> but I can only use two because I can't get the second graphics card to work
[00:14] <mylisto> now, how do I go about doing this the right way?
[00:15] <WeThePeople> what is stored on a HDD for boot sequences.....if i remove my 40 gb hdd will it boot correctly to both WinXP and Ubuntu 10.04
[00:15] <Mission_Control> I'm not experienced with laptops either
[00:15] <skutr3_> Ampelbein: ok
[00:16] <jacekowski> WeThePeople: a boot sector
[00:16] <skutr3_> Ampelbein: it was already enable
[00:16] <skutr3_> Ampelbein: enabled*
[00:16] <owen1> how to install helevetica on ubuntu?
[00:17] <jacekowski> WeThePeople: and there is boot loader stored in that sector
[00:17] <Chewarrior> Alquien español
[00:17] <jacekowski> WeThePeople: and it all depends on what you have there
[00:17] <aeon-ltd> !es | Chewarrior
[00:17] <WeThePeople> jacekowski, so hdds are not plug and play
[00:17] <mylisto> argh this is driving me nuts
[00:18] <Ampelbein> skutr3_: if you are somewhat experienced with ubuntu you can try the 64bit flashplugin from https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash, but I wouldn't recommend that if you don't know what you are doing.
[00:18] <jacekowski> WeThePeople: yes they are
[00:18] <jacekowski> WeThePeople: you plug it in and it will work
[00:18] <skutr3_> Ampelbein:
[00:18] <jacekowski> WeThePeople: you will be able to read data from it
[00:18] <jacekowski> WeThePeople: and write to it
[00:18] <skutr3_> Ampelbein: ok*
[00:18] <WeThePeople> jacekowski, kool thx
[00:18] <jacekowski> WeThePeople: but to boot system from it you need to have that system there in first place
[00:19] <jacekowski> WeThePeople: in format that bios will understand
[00:19] <Ampelbein> skutr3_: the problem seems to be that the 32bit plugin causes problems in 64bit environments so you'd have to wait till adobe releases a proper 64bit plugin in the official partner repository for ubuntu
[00:19] <IcyBlue> anyone know which program to download to keep the date and time fixed on my ubuntu and my windows. whenever i update my ubuntu my windows time settings changes
[00:19] <jacekowski> there is 64 bit flash plugin
[00:20] <goldeneye>  hello : i have an external monitor and ubuntu 10.10 installed n my laptop. whenever i connect it to my monitor and switch to the bigger screen and start typing on keyboard, it just flickers and puts me back on the laptop screen. Any idea?
[00:20] <jacekowski> for like a year or so
[00:20] <skutr3_> jacekowski: there is ?
[00:20] <skutr3_> Ampelbein: but this link should work til then?
[00:20] <jacekowski> skutr3_: yes
[00:20] <skutr3_> jacekowski: where?
[00:21] <jacekowski> skutr3_: on adobe website
[00:21] <skutr3_> jacekowski: where can i get it?
[00:21] <jacekowski> google
[00:21] <Ampelbein> jacekowski: the 64bit plugin came out of beta only 2 weeks ago, there is no official repository yet
[00:21] <skutr3_> jacekowski: kk
[00:22] <jacekowski> Ampelbein: more like 2 months ago
[00:22] <skutr3_> jacekowski: We have closed the Flash Player 10 for 64-bit Linux
[00:22] <skutr3_> :-/
[00:22] <jacekowski> skutr3_: read the whole message
[00:22] <skutr3_> yeah
[00:22] <skutr3_> i did
[00:23] <owen1> how to install helevetica on ubuntu?
[00:23] <jacekowski> skutr3_: We have closed the Flash Player 10 for 64-bit Linux program on Adobe Labs and *have made Flash Player “Square” available. Learn more and download Flash Player “Square.”*
[00:23] <Ampelbein> jacekowski: "Adobe® Flash® Player 10.2 shipped on February 8, 2011 and is no longer hosted on Adobe Labs."
[00:23] <mylisto> nick mylisto2
[00:23] <skutr3_> jacekowski: yeah i have that
[00:23] <jacekowski> Ampelbein: that's 10.2
[00:23] <jacekowski> flash 10 was avaliable in 64bit for year or so
[00:24] <C-S-B> gdm is not starting, i get mountall plymouth disconnected
[00:24] <C-S-B> manually started gdm works
[00:24] <mickster04> !font | owen1:
[00:24] <jacekowski> skutr3_: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_square.html
[00:24] <C-S-B> if i remove my nfs mounts, i dont get that error, but I'm dropped to the terminal.
[00:24] <skutr3_> jacekowski: i got it
[00:25] <skutr3_> jacekowski: idk how to install though
[00:25] <jacekowski> google will help with that
[00:25] <jacekowski> it's simple copy of one .so file to correct folder
[00:25] <jacekowski> but i don't remember where
[00:25] <Ampelbein> jacekowski: right, I was wrong. Seems it's still only preview versions :-(
[00:26] <skutr3_> ok
[00:31] <gmg> ****Can anyone help me with a sound issue please?****Everytime I bootup my sound is MUTED
[00:31] <mickster04> gmg: when you un mute it does it work?
[00:32] <gmg> Yes it works fine then...until I reboot
[00:32] <jahrome_> hi room
[00:32] <mickster04> gmg: bios settings peerhaps?
[00:32] <gmg> No setting in the bios for sound
[00:32] <Merlin> whats the best vmware for kubuntu I have some progs for work that I am going to have to use windows with and they will not run with wine
[00:33] <mickster04> gmg: speakers etc? no?
[00:33] <jacekowski> Merlin: well, the best vmware is vmware
[00:33] <jahrome_> can anyone please help me, setting up a PXEBoot-Environment? I have Ubuntu 10.10 running here on my tower and want to install a recoverImage on my Toshiba TabletPC over PXE. How to do this?
[00:33] <gmg> Nothing....when windows was installed it worked fine
[00:33] <Merlin> yeah true
[00:33] <jacekowski> Merlin: but if you are looking for other alternatives there is virtualbox from oracle
[00:33] <jacekowski> Merlin: but it's not from vmware
[00:34] <gmg> Everytime I reboot it automaticly mark the mute box
[00:34] <mickster04> hummmm
[00:34] <mickster04> gmg: i'm not sure then :/
[00:34] <jacekowski> jahrome_: you have to setup your dhcp server to push correct options
[00:34] <jacekowski> jahrome_: http://linux-sxs.org/internet_serving/pxeboot.html
[00:34] <jacekowski> jahrome_: all here
[00:34] <jahrome_> thx jacekowski
[00:35] <jacekowski> jahrome_: just remember what you change
[00:35] <jacekowski> jahrome_: so you can change it back after you're done
[00:35] <skutr3_> jacekowski: how do i open the file manager with root in terminal?
[00:35] <gmg> I googled it...it looks like this issue is comming a very long time now. I thought somebody might have figured it out by now
[00:35] <jahrome_> i have two network interfaces.... one on wlan another wired
[00:35] <jacekowski> skutr3_: you can copy it in terminal
[00:35] <jahrome_> i will use the wired iface, without changing the other
[00:35] <skutr3_> i need to move it not copy
[00:36] <jacekowski> skutr3_: same thing
[00:36] <jahrome_> problem is, i have already installed tftpd and dhcp3-server
[00:36] <jacekowski> move == copy + delete
[00:36] <skutr3_> jacekowski: move and copy?
[00:36] <jacekowski> almost
[00:36] <jahrome_> but don't know, how to server the file
[00:36] <skutr3_> ok fine how do you copy?
[00:36] <skutr3_> -cpy?
[00:36] <jacekowski> skutr3_: move is just copying something and deleting the original ( well, not really but it's similiar )
[00:36] <jacekowski> cp
[00:36] <jacekowski> to copy
[00:36] <jacekowski> mv to move
[00:36] <FloodBot1> jacekowski: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:37] <jacekowski> stupid bot
[00:37] <airtonix> skutr3_:read the output of both: man cp , man mv
[00:37] <Starminn> skutr3_: To open the File Manager (Nautilus) in root mode, type in "gksudo nautilus"
[00:37] <gmg> The other issue I have is that when rhymbox is playing it gives off a weird sound. But when I open Sound then the interferance is gone.
[00:37] <mickster04> jacekowski: please don't use enter as punctuation
[00:38] <Merlin> thanks i just need one that has usb support
[00:38] <Starminn> skutr3_: If you wish to move these files around using the terminal, then to move them use the "mv" command, and to copy them use the "cp" command, but otherwise there is no need to over-complicate things (*cough* jacekowski *cough*)
[00:38] <tdiso> hello everyone. how can i change the max output volume on my laptop? ive found that the current max is too low but fine when i raise it.
[00:39] <gmg> Can someone tell me why Ubuntu disconnects my external drive automaticly? Even while playing music from the drive.
[00:39] <Starminn> tdiso: System->Preferences->Sound should hold what you need, does it not?
[00:40] <tdiso> Starminn, yes but i want to set a new default max. each time i lower the volume, the low max gets set again
[00:41] <tta> gmg: that happen whenwhen your laptop is under tension?
[00:41] <Starminn> tdiso: Ah, hmm.... Not sure.
[00:41] <tdiso> :( ok
[00:41] <gmg> I hear gaps in the sound
[00:42] <gmg> Sometimes the laptops startsup with the sound MUTED then I have to manually unmute it
[00:42] <tdiso> thats not what im experiencing
[00:43] <christop1er> hello
[00:43] <gmg> Like now it has been playing hard ass metal for 2 to 3 hours straight without problems.
[00:44] <wolfgang> How is everyone?
[00:44] <gmg> Great
[00:44] <Magic-Fx> Hey everybody - I have just installed Ubuntu 10.04 on a system I bought for my partner (p4 1.8Ghz, 512mb ram and 40gb hdd) ... It has a network card as opposed to on board and when booting up I don't get any network connections, I was wondering if anyone knew a quick way to install the network card??
[00:45] <wolfgang> Wireless?
[00:45] <wolfgang> Wireless network card you mean?
[00:45] <mickster04> Magic-Fx: when it boots up does it show eth0 in the network manager?
[00:45] <Magic-Fx> it shows auto eth0 as never used, but if i mouse over the network box it says no network connections available
[00:46] <Magic-Fx> and no its all wired, not wireless :)
[00:46] <KemikalElite> I'm having an issue on 10.10 where when i use the alt ctrl fkey command to access the console my screen gets pixelated and when i use alt ctrl f7 to switch back to gnome it logs out back to the login screen
[00:46] <wolfgang> ndis if it's wireless. You just need ndis and then the Microsoft Windows drivers
[00:46] <wolfgang> Oh
[00:46] <mickster04> Magic-Fx: system>admin>hardware dirvers, if theres anything there to install, otherwise it will be being installed by default, see if your bios has an option to turn the on board port, off
[00:46] <mickster04> Magic-Fx: pastebin output of ifconfig?
[00:47] <Magic-Fx> there is no on board on the motherboard, so there isn't an option for anything to do with the network... there is also no option using the system>admin>hardware drivers, because i have no network connection to download the info or drivers
[00:47] <mickster04> Magic-Fx: s terminal output?
[00:47] <Magic-Fx> just booting machine up to get output for you, one tic
[00:47] <mickster04> Magic-Fx: very good
[00:48] <wolfgang> irc in terminal is sweet
[00:48] <tta>  i started the installation of ubuntu 10.10 in my laptop but after de decompression the system launched my previous os; please what is the meaning of that?
[00:48] <wolfgang> hm, how do i turn off join/quit notifications...
[00:49] <mickster04> wolfgang: usually /ignore * JOIN QUIT
[00:49] <mickster04> tta did you check the md5 hash of the disk
[00:49] <wolfgang> ok tried that command, let's see if it holds up
[00:50] <wolfgang> thanks
[00:50] <mickster04> wolfgang, you may perhaps want to add LEAVE to that command, tho i dunno if it's leave or leaves
[00:50] <Starminn> wolfgang: Somebody joined between "Thanks" and "ok I tried it"
[00:50] <wolfgang> Great! Then it works!
[00:50] <mickster04> :)
[00:50] <wolfgang> Ohhh... need to add the "leaving"
[00:50] <Scunizi> wolfgang: irssi?  /ignore #<channel> joins parts quits .. then after /save to save the modification.
[00:51] <wolfgang> yes irssi
[00:51] <mickster04> wolfgang: * means any channel in my case :p
[00:51] <wolfgang> Ohh
[00:51] <wolfgang> 'parts' is the equivalent to leave?
[00:51] <mickster04> i guess so
[00:52] <wolfgang> Ok
[00:52] <wolfgang> Anyone here use MATLAB?
[00:52] <mickster04> !matlab
[00:52] <wolfgang> Hahaha
[00:52] <mickster04> ubottu clearly does :D
[00:52] <Scunizi> wolfgang: yes.. parts is basically the same as leaves.. I don't think irssi recognizes leaves.
[00:53] <Magic-Fx> mickster04, its a bit hard to paste the results from the 'ifconfig' command, as the system i am trying to get the network card active on isn't the one im using to speak with you... the ifconfig result shows Link encap: Local Loopback, followed by some generic info
[00:53] <Richiie> ls
[00:53] <Magic-Fx> mousing over the network took, shows "no network connections active" and clicking on it shows "no network device available"
[00:53] <Magic-Fx> tool, button, whatever its called
[00:53] <mickster04> humm
[00:54] <KemikalElite> does anyone know an answer to my issue? I think its related to the x server
[00:54] <wolfgang> Great, I'll look at installing MATLAB on here
[00:55] <Magic-Fx> I would open the box to identify the network card, but its one of these bloody systems that has the box pot rivetted shut so i can't get into it
[00:56] <mickster04> Magic-Fx: uhm, mostly hardware is auto installed
[00:57] <Starminn> mickster04: He could identify it using lspci, could he not?
[00:57] <mickster04> Magic-Fx: so if it doesn't work there could be other problems involved, an i dunno how to find them out
[00:57] <Magic-Fx> yeah that was why I installed ubuntu and now windows xp
[00:57] <mickster04> Starminn: if i knew how to use it i would suggest it
[00:57] <Magic-Fx> not*
[00:58] <Scunizi> Magic-Fx: you can identify your hardware with lspci and/or sudo lshw
[00:58] <Magic-Fx> thanks for ur help mickster04 i'll keep trying and if i get any further i'll let you know :)
[00:58] <mickster04> :)
[00:58] <Magic-Fx> ok i'll try that thanks Scunizi
[00:58] <pessoptimistic> so how come I get this http://twitpic.com/44iamp when I attempt to install 10.10? I do have a lable called "/" but that's not a mount point.  So how do I create a "/" mount point?
[00:58] <Scunizi> Magic-Fx: lspci only looks at the pci buss hardware.. sudo lshw will do the entire machine
[00:59] <jahrome_> jacekowski: do you know, how to setup step 4 of your pxe tut on ubuntu?
[00:59] <mickster04> pessoptimistic: it's not the label you wanna change
[01:00] <pessoptimistic> mickster04: I know but where do I get to add the mount point?
[01:00] <mickster04> well choose a partition to install it on, on the winsow with "allocate drive space" there are no partitions listed, there should be
[01:00] <Isonyx> Heyo, question. I'm trying to use the HTTPRequest function in PHP under ubuntu..I have Xampp set up and apache and such running via xampp. It says to use the HTTPRequest extension you need to enable it but adding it to php.ini. I found the location of php.ini for xampp which is /opt/lampp/etc but I added it and ti dosen't seem to work correctly. Can anyone help me out?
[01:00] <Magic-Fx> 00:0a.0 Ethernet Controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co, Ltd. RTL 8139/8139C/8139C+
[01:01] <Magic-Fx> that was part of the results from command 'lspci'
[01:01] <Magic-Fx> that would in turn tell me that ubuntu is recognising the ethernet card? :/
[01:01] <Scunizi> It use to be on previouse releases when you deleted files off an external storage medium like a usb stick or sd card the deleted files would land on that same medium in a folder called .trash. If you didn't empty the trash before unmounting the medium it still took space on that medium.  Am I right in assuming that behavoir has changed?
[01:01] <pessoptimistic> mickster04: yes there should be, but don't know why there aren't!
[01:01] <Isonyx> Heyo, question. I'm trying to use the HTTPRequest function in PHP under ubuntu..I have Xampp set up and apache and such running via xampp. It says to use the HTTPRequest extension you need to enable it but adding it to php.ini. I found the location of php.ini for xampp which is /opt/lampp/etc but I added it and it dosen't seem to work correctly. Can anyone help me out?
[01:02] <mickster04> Magic-Fx: yes
[01:02] <pessoptimistic> mickster04: look at the gparted window.  there is clearly a linux partition
[01:02] <mickster04> is it mounted?
[01:02] <Mission_Control> I want to go someplace with massive flooding
[01:02] <Isonyx> Heyo, question. I'm trying to use the HTTPRequest function in PHP under ubuntu..I have Xampp set up and apache and such running via xampp. It says to use the HTTPRequest extension you need to enable it but adding it to php.ini. I found the location of php.ini for xampp which is /opt/lampp/etc but I added it and it dosen't seem to work correctly. Can anyone help me out?
[01:02] <Scunizi> Isonyx: I don't know the answer to that but why on earth would you install xampp instead of the standard install available?
[01:02] <pessoptimistic> mickster04: is the mounted question for me?
[01:02] <mickster04> !patience
[01:03] <mickster04> Isonyx: why use xampp?
[01:03] <KemikalElite> My screen crashes and logs me out after the computer is idle. Can anyone help?
[01:03] <Magic-Fx> it should be mounted mickster04 but I am not sure... the network connections which has the icon in the task bar, tells me I have no network connection active, and when clicking to select one, it tells me no network devices are available... so im at a stump there.
[01:03] <Isonyx> It was the fastest to install.
[01:03] <maco> Isonyx: i dont think xampp is actually supported since we have a task available to install apache, mysql, and php/python/perl all at once with things in *standard* location
[01:03] <Isonyx> ughh
[01:03] <Isonyx> Alright.
[01:03] <Isonyx> Thanks for the help.
[01:03] <Scunizi> Isonyx: not really.  sudo tasksel .. select LAMP.. enter
[01:04] <Isonyx> Scunizi, what does it do?
[01:04] <mickster04> KemikalElite: change the screen saver settings
[01:05] <KemikalElite> already tried that didnt help
[01:05] <mickster04> KemikalElite: the settings have been set not to return to log in>?
[01:05] <KemikalElite> the screen messes up when i use alt ctrl f6
[01:05] <Scunizi> Isonyx: sudo tasksel brings up a menu of a bunch of stuff you can install including LAMP.. The L is linux of course.. the rest is Apache, MySQL and PHP
[01:06] <mickster04> KemikalElite: why do that?
[01:06] <Isonyx> ah
[01:06] <Isonyx> Scunizi: After you click enter nothing seems to happen. Has everything been installed?
[01:06] <^Phantom^> I have a mouse question
[01:06] <maco> Isonyx: tasksel stands for "task selector" because you can pick a task like...webserver...or mail server...or whatever you want...and it grabs all the stuff for that thing
[01:06] <KemikalElite> not sure it messes up when i try to access the console
[01:06] <^Phantom^> I'm making a custom Mario Themed cursor pack in windows XP.  Will those cursors be able to work in Ubuntu?
[01:07] <KemikalElite> then i go back to gnome and it forces back to the login screen
[01:07] <Scunizi> Isonyx: well.. by installing xamp you've installed some version of apache mysql and php.. which one's I don't know.. If you want supported versions uninstall xamp and reinstall using the preferred methods.
[01:07] <Isonyx> Ahh.
[01:07] <Isonyx> Alright.
[01:08] <^Phantom^> They're animated.
[01:08] <syrinx> possibly, Phantom
[01:08] <Scunizi> Isonyx: was xamp a download? and if so was it a .deb file or something else?
[01:08] <Isonyx> When you install Lamp from tasksel how exactly does it work? On xampp you can upload files to localhost via ftp..
[01:08] <Isonyx> Scunizi: I actually don't remember.
[01:09] <Scunizi> Isonyx: you running a separate box for the install?
[01:09] <maco> Isonyx: you need an ssh server to use ssh/sftp/ftp -- install openssh-server
[01:09] <pessoptimistic> trying to install 10.10 and I get this http://tinyurl.com/4gwob7m ? How do I create a mount point? and why is there no  devices are listed under "Allocate drive space"?
[01:09] <thews> Anyone know what the most compatible / easy to manage DLNA server is for ubuntu?
[01:10] <thews> pms-linux server won't work on my phone
[01:10] <Isonyx> Seems like to much trouble since I did it the more inconvenient way.
[01:10] <Isonyx> I'll see if I can find something that will help in xampps user manuals.
[01:11] <Scunizi> Isonyx: are you new from the windows world?
[01:11] <Citizenwarrior> what would be the reasoning not to install the 64bit version of Ubuntu on a 64bit system?
[01:11] <Scunizi> Citizenwarrior: no specific benefit if you have less than 4 gigs of ram
[01:12] <pessoptimistic> I don't even get the option in partition manually.  I opened gparted and did it there.
[01:12] <^Phantom^> syrinx, if it helps, I'm creating them with Greenfish Icon Editor Pro
[01:12] <Scunizi> Citizenwarrior: except processing power for audio/video creation.
[01:12] <Citizenwarrior> scunizi are there any negative in moving to 64
[01:13] <AntonioP> hey everyone
[01:13] <Scunizi> Citizenwarrior: the only one I've found relates to business... Citrix doesn't have a 64bit linux client
[01:13] <pessoptimistic> trying to install 10.10 and I get this http://tinyurl.com/4gwob7m ? How do I create a mount point? and why is there no  devices are listed under "Allocate drive space"?
[01:13] <AntonioP> I'm trying to install mysql server and its hanging at "Setting up mysql-server-5.1 (5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10) ..."
[01:13] <syrinx> Phantom, well, a cursor theme is just a set of images right?
[01:13] <Isonyx> No. Actually I'm not.
[01:14] <Citizenwarrior> scunizi ok, but if I where to then run some 32bit OS in VirtualBox for that need I should be covered and have no good reason not to upgrade
[01:14] <mickster04> AntonioP: try pressing alt-tab, it may have oipened up another window somewhere
[01:14] <AntonioP> what do I do with this?
[01:14] <AntonioP> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:14] <Scunizi> AntonioP: are you doing it from Synaptic package manager or a download?
[01:14] <AntonioP> I killed the process...and I'm going to try it again
[01:15] <mickster04> AntonioP: you may have had update manager open or mayb you tried installing it somewhere else?
[01:15] <AntonioP> scunizi: it was from apt-get
[01:15] <Scunizi> Citizenwarrior: you can run 32 bit os's in a 64 bit vm with no issues.. you just might run into problems if you tried the reverse
[01:15] <ChogyDan> pessoptimistic: try using pastebin instead of s3
[01:15] <Scunizi> AntonioP: should work.. strange.
[01:16] <wolfgang> I am having a lot of trouble trying to install a wireless card on 10.10 DWL-530
[01:16] <wolfgang> My system won't even boot once I insert the card
[01:16] <AntonioP> now when I try sudo apt-get mysql server I get "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[01:16] <pessoptimistic> ChogyDan: what is s3 ?
[01:16] <Citizenwarrior> Scunizi right... I'm just talking about having a citrix option
[01:16] <mickster04> AntonioP: restart try again
[01:16] <ChogyDan> pessoptimistic: amazon s3?
[01:16] <Magic-Fx> doe's anyone know how to manually setup a network card on ubuntu 10.04? I have tried a few commands to identify that ubuntu has installed the card and recognises it, but I get no network connections active and I am told no network devices available when clicking on it to attempt to connect. It is plugged into the router with lights on both that and the back of the network card, but no activity on the system through network..
[01:16] <AntonioP> restart the computer?
[01:16] <Scunizi> AntonioP: do you have synaptic open?  that statement means that two things are accessing the package manager at the same time.
[01:16] <mickster04> AntonioP: yeah
[01:17] <pessoptimistic> ChogyDan: So does that mean you know the answer?
[01:17] <ChogyDan> pessoptimistic: what website are you trying to use?
[01:17] <pessoptimistic> ChogyDan: no website at ALL.  I am having a technical problem installing 10.10!!!
[01:17] <AntonioP> nope I only hvae terminal open
[01:17] <Scunizi> Citizenwarrior: if you're running citrix in a 32 bit vm then no issues.. if you try it in ubutnu 64 bit native you will.
[01:18] <ChogyDan> pessoptimistic: you posted a link, right?  The link is bad
[01:18] <Scunizi> AntonioP: is this a new fresh install of ubuntu?
[01:18] <AntonioP> nope
[01:18] <mickster04> pessoptimistic: don't use gparted at the same time? just use the installer, will you only be installing ubuntu?
[01:18] <Scunizi> AntonioP: something has the package manager locked...
[01:18] <AntonioP> restarting back in a few
[01:19] <pessoptimistic> mickster04:  I only went to gparted when nothing appeared in the Installed
[01:19] <pessoptimistic> mickster04:  I only went to gparted when nothing appeared in the Installer
[01:19] <mickster04> pessoptimistic: will you only be installing ubuntu?
[01:19] <pessoptimistic> mickster04: no, I have windows on other partition
[01:20] <mickster04> pessoptimistic: have you tried selecting "install side by side"?
[01:20] <Citizenwarrior> Scunizi thank-you for your time
[01:20] <pessoptimistic> I never got that option
[01:20] <Scunizi> Citizenwarrior: np..
[01:20] <mickster04> pessoptimistic: what options did you get?
[01:21] <Scunizi> Citizenwarrior: what vm are you planning to use?
[01:22] <pessoptimistic> mickster04:  I double click on the "Install Ubuntu 10.10" icon and i get a welcome screen to select English, which I do, then I click on "Forward" then I get "Preparing to install Ubuntu" all green checkmarks, i click on "Forwrard" and I get "Allocate Drive Space"
[01:23] <mickster04> all green check boxes?
[01:23] <pessoptimistic> mickster04:  no partitions are to be found in the allocate space. Look at http://twitpic.com/44iamp
[01:25] <mickster04> pessoptimistic: change the option elected in the drop down menu, tell me what you can see?
[01:25] <pessoptimistic> mickster04: look at http://twitpic.com/44juvp
[01:26] <Scunizi> pessoptimistic: I see by your graphic that you've allocated lots of space to ubuntu on the drive (gparted window).  You might consider 15 gigs for root "/" .. 4gigs for /swap and the remainder for /home ... /home is where all your user created material lands.  However to do that you need to create an extended partition to overcome the 4 primary partition limitations.
[01:26] <Citizenwarrior> Scunizi Oracle VirtualBox.... it is the only one I know much about
[01:26] <mickster04> pessoptimistic: okso what about the drop down as mentioned in your first image dump
[01:26] <pessoptimistic> mickster04: /dev/sda is only thing in the drop down in the "Allocate drive space"
[01:27] <Scunizi> Citizenwarrior: I use that too.. I always get it direct from Oracle/Sun instead of the repo's.. it has extra functionality.
[01:27] <pessoptimistic> Scunizi: you are right.  I am having a probl installing.
[01:27] <mickster04> pessoptimistic: close gparted
[01:28] <mickster04> restart the install from scratch, i assume you haven't got that hdd mounted?
[01:28] <Scunizi> pessoptimistic: if the live cd doesn't work you might give the "alternate" cd a shot.. no gui install. it's all text based.
[01:28] <pessoptimistic> mickster04: device is not mounted, gparted is closed.
[01:28] <Scunizi> pessoptimistic: but will install the full gui system
[01:28] <mickster04> and still nothing?
[01:29] <mickster04> pessoptimistic: did you do an md5sum on the ISO?
[01:29] <pessoptimistic> mickster04: still nothing!
[01:29] <pessoptimistic> I've been installing ubuntu for many years and never had this problem.
[01:29] <Fogel> hello
[01:29] <pessoptimistic> I've installed from this CD before.
[01:29] <pessoptimistic> I've installed from the CD before.
[01:29] <syrinx> ello
[01:29] <Fogel> is there any way to install ubuntu manually from terminal?
[01:29] <Scunizi> pessoptimistic: could just be a bad download or burn.
[01:30] <syrinx> Fogel...what do you mean?
[01:30] <pessoptimistic> Scunizi: could be but it worked on another computer!
[01:30] <jahrome_> my dhcp server doesn't start up
[01:30] <Fogel> syrinx: not by clicking buttons but typing commands
[01:30] <xangua> !minimal > Fogel
[01:30] <xangua> !alternat > Fogel
[01:30] <xangua> !alternate
[01:30] <Scunizi> pessoptimistic: to eliminate cdrom issues you might take the iso to the other machine and make a live usb stick and use that to install.. just a thought
[01:31] <pessoptimistic> Scunizi mickster04 thanks for your help.  I'm going to redownload the iso do checksum proceed from there
[01:32] <Fogel> xangua: what i need to do is to omit disk partitioner and either manually copy files to destination partition (cp/tar) or explicitly type mountpoint
[01:32] <Scunizi> pessoptimistic: try the torrent from ubuntu.com.. it's a fast download
[01:32] <jahrome_> where is the LTS for Ubuntu?!
[01:32] <syrinx> I agree with the usb stick idea
[01:32] <MagicJ> I have changed the /usr/share/applications/screensavers/gltext.desktop file to provide a new message when the screen saver shows.  The change is not taking effect.  What do I need to do to cause it to do so. I have tried a re-boot.
[01:32] <xangua> jahrome_: ubuntu.com
[01:32] <Scunizi> jahrome_: ubuntu.com
[01:32] <Fogel> xangua: i have broken partition table - it works, but cfdisk cannot read it
[01:32] <syrinx> great to have a usb drive to install ubuntu in case the need arises
[01:32] <mickster04> !lts | jahrome_
[01:32] <Fogel> xangua: normal fdisk works
[01:33] <mickster04> oops, figured there would be a link
[01:33] <mickster04> !lucid > jahrome_
[01:33] <jahrome_> what? how?
[01:33] <Scunizi> syrinx: I take a stick into best buy/fry's etc to test machines compatibility with linux... that's how I chose my son's acer mini
[01:34] <Citizenwarrior> Scunizi thats good to know... ever installed Mac OSX snow leopard on it by chance
[01:34] <jahrome_> stop buggin me with private messages...
[01:34] <Scunizi> Citizenwarrior: in a vm?  nope.. might be tough.. as it's against Mac's ulla (sp?)
[01:35] <mickster04> jahrome_: the private message contains a link to the download
[01:35] <Scunizi> Citizenwarrior: I think they call it crakintosh or krakintosh
[01:35] <jahrome_> no time finding out how to open private messages
[01:35] <mickster04> !lucid | jahrome_
[01:35] <mickster04> there
[01:35] <Fogel> xangua: i don't think minimal cd would help me fix this
[01:35] <jahrome_> yaya is ok, thx
[01:36] <syrinx> Scunizi, ya know, im looking into a netbook once the taxes come in, and thats a great idea
[01:36] <jahrome_> i need real help here, no pseudo help
[01:36] <mickster04> jahrome_: you asked for the download?
[01:36] <jahrome_> not really
[01:36] <Citizenwarrior> scunizi crakintosh and/or krakintosh   what are these, if it is a long drawn out explanation I will bust out my googlefu
[01:36] <Scunizi> syrinx: you have to boot to it on the "qt" typically.. they don't like people messing with their machines when they don't understand what you're doing.
[01:36] <mickster04> 01:32 < jahrome_> where is the LTS for Ubuntu?!
[01:37] <jahrome_> LTS means long term support , what has it to do with download? i want dupport, no download
[01:37] <Magic-Fx> mickster04, I figured out the problem.... Realtek 8139 cards have a bug, apparently another mate spent weeks trying to get it to work in linux with no luck, but they apparently work fine on windows - unknown as to why
[01:37] <Magic-Fx> but that would explain the non working part even though its recognised.
[01:37] <syrinx> scunizi, of course, but thats the beauty of the thumb drive. ill go when they are really busy, lol
[01:37] <Magic-Fx> thought you might wanna know :)
[01:37] <Scunizi> Citizenwarrior: OSX is designed for their hardware.. you have to jump through hoops to get it working elsewhere.. and being against their licensing terms you're not suppose to install or try to install in anywhere except their hardware.
[01:37] <mickster04> Magic-Fx: cheers,
[01:38] <xangua> jahrome_: you can pay to canonical for home support
[01:38] <jahrome_> xanguaaaaaaaa
[01:38] <mickster04> jahrome_: it's here
[01:38] <mickster04> we are that support
[01:38] <Fogel> Scunizi: not exactly - it is designed for EFI - the hardware is almost the same
[01:38] <jahrome_> thanks mickster04 ;)
[01:39] <Scunizi> Fogel: simplistic explaination....
[01:39] <tta>  i enter the command md5 hash but not...
[01:39] <camServo> jahrome_: normally when you ask someone for the LTS, they generally think you're talking about the version that is being supported for a long time (like 10.10 vs. 10.04)
[01:39] <Hodr> I installed ISPconfig using Perfect server guide, I need to set up vhost, any idea where the damn file is? lol
[01:39] <Citizenwarrior> scunizi roger, i don't have access to the box i want to do that to but thats good to know going in that I will be jumping hoops
[01:40] <Scunizi> Citizenwarrior: utilize your google-fu for more info
[01:40] <jahrome_> camServo: normally when i ask for suppor, i want support, not a download ;)
[01:40] <Fogel> Scunizi: cpu, ram, gpu, all the same, the only thing that is really different is EFI instead of BIOS
[01:40] <alex_> open source software is the WORST at support
[01:40] <alex_> that's really all there is to it.
[01:40] <Fogel> Scunizi: and MacOS X need EFI to boot
[01:40] <Fogel> s/need/needs/
[01:40] <Scunizi> Fogel: gotch ya
[01:41] <syrinx> alex_, not if your on irc alot
[01:41] <mickster04> jahrome_: you didn't ask for support, you asked for the lts which is understood as the vversion of ubuntu
[01:41] <jahrome_> ok
[01:41] <camServo> jahrome_: google Ubuntu LTS ;)
[01:41] <mickster04> jahrome_: you were just being specific as to which version you wanted :p
[01:41] <Scunizi> alex_: trolling for an arguement?
[01:41] <alex_> no.
[01:41] <Citizenwarrior> scunizi yea will do
[01:42] <mickster04> alex_: it's the best free support you are gonna get me thinks
[01:42] <mickster04> alex_: you get what you pay for at least
[01:42] <jahrome_> really i have to laugh
[01:42] <earthmeLon>  #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:42] <alex_> you don't know how many times i have to hear "rtfm" "google is your friend" "link to that stupid google search taht controls your mouse thing that says let me google that for you here" "this is not supported" "we are a group of volunteers who dont get paid"
[01:42] <Scunizi> alex_: I think most would beg to differ with you on the support issue.. I've had horrible support for years concerning the "other" os.
[01:42] <jahrome_> HAHAHA
[01:42] <ElderDryas> alex_: TANSTAAFLE
[01:42] <IdleOne> !ot | alex_
[01:43] <jahrome_> people really loose a sense for what support means
[01:43] <Merlin> i have a brother mfc 420cn printer and can not get it to work with kubuntu 10.10 does anyone know a fast fix
[01:43] <jahrome_> this is pseudo support
[01:43] <syrinx> alex_, linux is a thinking mans game, free software and more customization means putting in the work
[01:43] <mickster04> jahrome_: you can pay for proper ubuntu support
[01:43] <alex_> or spinning for hours on end going nowhere
[01:43] <Fogel> why the hell google finds Installation Manual and not Manual Installation...
[01:44] <tim167> hi, is there a wireless webcam that works on ubuntu ?
[01:44] <ChogyDan> jahrome_: support in lts just means security software updates
[01:44]  * jahrome_ is a frustrated user
[01:44] <syrinx> why would you do that? after 10 minutes of spinning in a circle, id say straighten out the wheel
[01:44] <alex_> assuming you can.
[01:44] <syrinx> course you can
[01:44] <syrinx> assuming you WANT to
[01:44] <mickster04> alex_: at least we offer it
[01:44] <syrinx> exactly
[01:45] <syrinx> we are all here, helping each other
[01:45]  * jahrome_ must watch his pressure
[01:45] <earthmeLon> (and it feels good)
[01:46] <afman> Hey has anyone been having a problem after updating Ubuntu 10.10 that whenever you try to start a program the taskbar just disappears?
[01:46] <afman> And the program doesn't start :-(
[01:46] <earthmeLon> Any program or one in particular afman
[01:46] <mickster04> afman: nope
[01:47] <syrinx> afman: video card?
[01:47] <shcherbak> afman: By taskbar, do you mean gnome-panel?
[01:47] <jahrome_> afman i had a similar problem, everytime i clicked on places, wine started with an error
[01:48] <maco> jahrome_: places, or something *inside* places?
[01:48] <maco> jahrome_: if the latter, it means wine thinks it's the correct program for handling folders
[01:48] <jahrome_> maco places, linking was corrupt
[01:48] <maco> jahrome_: oh ouch
[01:48] <jahrome_> exactly
[01:49] <jahrome_> i had to fix the program, it was opening when clicking on a "link", but i forgot which file it was
[01:49] <jahrome_> one cannot remmber evertyhing
[01:50] <syrinx> how'd the heck you find that jahrome?
[01:50] <Fogel> ok, anybody can help me? i need to omit disk partitioning during ubuntu installation and explicitly give it installation directory
[01:50] <jahrome_> Fogel, just use the whole disk ;)
[01:50] <Fogel> directory NOT partition
[01:50] <mickster04> Fogel: select "manual define partitions" when installing?
[01:50] <syrinx> Fogel, filesys?
[01:51] <AndMar> hello?
[01:51] <Fogel> jahrome_: yes, and delete 20k$ worth projects
[01:51] <jahrome_> my dhcp server doesn't start up, i have to look in the syslog
[01:51] <jahrome_> how?
[01:51] <AndMar> is this where I can ask for help?
[01:51] <mickster04> AndMar: yes
[01:51] <tta> andmar:hello...
[01:51] <Fogel> mickster04: no way, it needs to select device, not directory
[01:52] <jahrome_> AndMar: just ask your question, sometimes you will get help....
[01:52] <Fogel> syrinx: i'll check it
[01:52] <tta> yes feel free
[01:52] <AndMar> I'm trying to connect to and use a printer on my network
[01:52] <AndMar> after about an hour ive gotten nowhere
[01:52] <mickster04> Fogel: not sure what you mean
[01:52] <Fogel> syrinx: ah, pardon, ext4
[01:52] <mickster04> AndMar: can you connect using a different pc?
[01:52] <AndMar> yes
[01:52] <espenk> Hiya! Any of you know if this is possible: Two monitors, terminal (no graphical env) on one and xorg on the other?
[01:52] <Fogel> mickster04: i have broken partition table
[01:52] <jahrome_> AndMar: gratulations, you are just as frustrated as i am :) i'd say, you have to use cups
[01:52] <AndMar> im justhaving truoble cuz im used to windows
[01:52] <AndMar> two other laptops can use it
[01:53] <mickster04> espenk: just use gnome-terminal
[01:53] <syrinx> Fogel, backup and reformat
[01:53] <mickster04> Fogel: ah ok
[01:53] <AndMar> i went to cups and it found it
[01:53] <syrinx> are you coming from windows?
[01:53] <AndMar> but idk what the device uri is or how to find out
[01:53] <Fogel> mickster04: it works, but not for cfdisk and installer
[01:53] <_skpl> espenk: alt ctrl f1-f6
[01:53] <AndMar> yes im used to windows
[01:53] <mickster04> AndMar: usually //pcname/printername
[01:53] <AndMar> ok ill try that
[01:54] <espenk> _skpl: That affects both monitors
[01:54] <AndMar> ill have to find out names first
[01:54] <AndMar> brb
[01:54] <Fogel> syrinx: it would require backup of whole disk and reinstalling linux and windows
[01:54] <mickster04> AndMar: check on the other networked pc, it'll be listed under properties for the printer
[01:54] <Fogel> syrinx: not an option
[01:54] <mickster04> espenk: whats wrong with using a gnome terminal?
[01:54] <shcherbak> jahrome_: ls /var/log/  , or less /var/log/syslog , or menu > System > Administration > Log viewer
[01:54] <Scunizi> espenk: probably but not by _skpl 's method.. you'll have to craft a custom xorg.conf to do it. Then after Ubuntu moves away from X you'll have to start over
[01:54] <espenk> I know I can run a terminal in a window, I just am curious if it is *possible*, cause theoretically I believe it should vbe
[01:54] <syrinx> Fogel: i would think having ubuntu and windows on the same drive is a bad idea....
[01:54] <srq> 2
[01:54] <mickster04> espenk: not that i know of
[01:55] <Fogel> syrinx: i think it is not if you know what are you doing
[01:55] <mickster04> espenk: actualterminal will not handle dual monitors properly, and xserver is what does that....
[01:55] <Scunizi> syrinx: doesn't matter..
[01:55] <espenk> scunizi I follow your drift completely, however I see no apparent way of solving it
[01:55] <AndMar> does //pcname/printer need a protocol in front of it? or is it exactly like you said?
[01:55] <Fogel> syrinx: i have such combo fo 3 years now and never had any problem with it
[01:55] <Fogel> s/fo/for/
[01:55] <mickster04> AndMar: that makes it a url i think
[01:55] <jahrome_> shcherbak: thx
[01:56] <AndMar> well all the cups example uri's have protocols
[01:56] <AndMar> thats why i was wondering
[01:56] <syrinx> touche, so whats wrong with the partition table?
[01:56] <mickster04> AndMar: like what?
[01:56] <AndMar>  ipp://hostname/ipp/port1
[01:56] <espenk> micster04: Ahhh... I see.
[01:56] <mickster04> AndMar: if it's just across the lan, //will do it i would have thought
[01:56] <AndMar> ok ill try
[01:56] <AndMar> lemme get the info
[01:56] <nikitis> How can i install java?
[01:56] <mickster04> espenk: yeah, just use a gnome terminal full screen on one side :/
[01:56] <Fogel> syrinx: Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[01:57] <mickster04> !java | nikitis
[01:57] <nikitis> !java
[01:57] <mickster04> nikitis: mwahahaha
[01:57] <Scunizi> espenk: to solve your issue start googling for solution running two different desktop on different TTY's .. like gnome on tty7 like normal and kde on tty? .. that's entirely possible so to eliminate one and be left with just a tty/command prompt should be pretty easy.. from there you have to figure out a way to direct one tty to one monitor and the other to.. the other :)
[01:57] <Fogel> syrinx: it's from fdisk
[01:57] <Fogel> syrinx: cfdisk tells me FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 3: Partition ends after end-of-disk
[01:57] <Fogel> syrinx: and exist
[01:57] <Fogel> exits*
[01:57] <mickster04> Scunizi: how will he select to give focus back to the terminal?
[01:57] <espenk> scunizi but they both will run xorg then, just with different layers on
[01:58] <Fogel> syrinx: it's windows 7 boot partition
[01:58] <espenk> scunizi But it makes sense that the problem here really isnt to not run xorg on one, but to be able to run anything else on the other
[01:58] <Scunizi> espenk: yes "I think".. as for mickster04 question.. it's a valid question.. how do you switch between the two.. that might be a bit more problemmatic
[01:58] <Fogel> syrinx: and is ca 40 MB afair
[01:58] <tr3nton> !videoediting
[01:59] <syrinx> Fogel, how big is the disk?
[01:59] <tr3nton> !video
[01:59] <Fogel> syrinx: 250 G's
[01:59] <syrinx> Fogel, is it possible to reformat ANY partitions?
[02:00] <tr3nton> !jvc
[02:00] <mickster04> !bot | tr3nton
[02:00] <Scunizi> tr3nton: lives, open movie editor, openshot, pitivi, avidimux, etc.. openshot looks easy.. lives looks good too but takes forever to import a .m4v 60 min. video
[02:00] <Fogel> syrinx: with mkfs - sure
[02:00] <Fogel> syrinx: with installer - no way
[02:01] <Fogel> syrinx: i can normally use/format any partition
[02:01] <tr3nton> Scunizi: oh thanks, wasn't having much luck there. lol
[02:01] <syrinx> Fogel, might wanna try what you can, the odd thing is that it's partition 3, how many partitions are we looking at here?
[02:02] <Scunizi> tr3nton: they are all in the repositories
[02:02] <BitEncrypt> i cant unmount my volumes
[02:02] <BitEncrypt> org.freedesktop.hal.storage.unmount-others no <-- (privilege, result)
[02:02] <syrinx> BitEncrpyt, live cd/usb
[02:02] <mikeru> Heelp
[02:02] <BitEncrypt> syrinx, nope
[02:02] <mickster04> mikeru: okay
[02:02] <tr3nton> Scunizi: thanks. I'll give em all a try. first time hooking up video cam to ubuntu
[02:02] <mickster04> mikeru: 42?
[02:02] <mikeru> Gparted's been shrinking my 124GB partition
[02:02] <Fogel> syrinx: sda 1-3 are NTFS's, 5 and 6 are ext4 + reiserfs
[02:02] <mikeru> For 4 hours!
[02:03] <syrinx> mickster04, dont tell him the "answer"
[02:03] <Fogel> syrinx: and sda1 is the one that is "broken"
[02:03] <Scunizi> tr3nton: lives has a dv import function.. either usb or firewire
[02:03] <mickster04> syrinx: it's the best i could come up with :p
[02:03] <mikeru> mickster04: that answer, to what question?
[02:03] <mickster04> mello: let it run mow, what is it shrinking too? and is it actually shrinking or just prepping it, as in have you commited the changes
[02:03] <Fogel> syrinx: http://wklej.org/id/484113/
[02:04] <mickster04> mikeru: the ultimate question, about life the universe and everything
[02:04] <tr3nton> Scunizi:cool. is there an ubuntu help page on the topic? or you just know those packages off the top of your head
[02:04] <mikeru> mickster04: But you don't know it...
[02:04] <salohchin> anyone know a program to fix mouse accel or terminal commands?
[02:04] <mickster04> mikeru: no-one does :(
[02:04] <syrinx> Fogel, so you cant boot win7 then?
[02:04] <mickster04> salohchin: whats wrong with it?
[02:04] <BitEncrypt> unable to unmount volumes, any help
[02:04] <Fogel> syrinx: no problem
[02:04] <BitEncrypt> org.freedesktop.hal.storage.unmount-others no <-- (privilege, result)
[02:05] <salohchin> just the movement is not as consistent as i would like
[02:05] <mikeru> mickster04: Which is rather sad.
[02:05]  * syrinx raises a brow...
[02:05] <mickster04> salohchin: changfe the mouse settings in system>pref(or admin> mouse
[02:05] <mikeru> Anyway, I'm not sure if gparted is actually working or not
[02:05] <syrinx> mikeru, hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, read it
[02:05] <salohchin> yeah thats sorta the problem
[02:06] <Fogel> syrinx: no problem with booting gentoo on sda5 - it just has broken video drivers and i have not enough time to take care of it, so i need something that will work without too much configuration
[02:06] <mickster04> salohchin: what is? i gfave you a solution and it's the problem?
[02:06] <syrinx> Fogel, reformat sda2 and sda3
[02:06] <Fogel> syrinx: not an option
[02:06] <mikeru> While the progress bar does that left to right to left thing (poor design, IMHO; it should instead show a percentage or whatever)
[02:06] <mickster04> Fogel: ubuntu :p
[02:06] <mickster04> mikeru: that means it hasn't started
[02:06] <mickster04> mikeru: when it can work out a percentage it does show a progress
[02:06] <syrinx> this is why i said the whole dual boot thing isn't worth it
[02:07] <syrinx> tends to get very complicated....
[02:07] <Fogel> syrinx: on sda2 i have windows installed, and it would take me too much time to reinstall all apps i have
[02:07] <mickster04> mikeru: press alt-tab and check there isn't a confirmation box hiding somewhere?
[02:07] <mickster04> Fogel: use a live cd all the time?
[02:07] <salohchin> well in ubuntu there are 2 values to change that effect mouse (acceleration+sensitivity) the most stable i can get it is not good enough
[02:07] <mikeru> mickster04: oh, but it has. It has never shown any percentage any time I have used it before
[02:07] <syrinx> Fogel, it says sda1 is the boot partition
[02:07] <salohchin> so i was wondering if there was a prog or terminal cmd to help
[02:08] <Fogel> syrinx: well.. if it have gentoo-like installation mode i wouldn't have any problem at all
[02:08] <mikeru> It bas already calibrated and checked filesystem but its been stuck on shrinking file system
[02:08] <mickster04> mikeru: uhm, then you've only been using it when it hasn't been able to work out the percent, have you used update manager? that ususally shows it working
[02:08] <BitEncrypt> UNABLE TO UNMOUNT VOLUMES, ANY HELP....org.freedesktop.hal.storage.unmount-others no <-- (privilege, result)
[02:08] <mickster04> !who
[02:08] <mikeru> mickster04: Live cd
[02:08] <mickster04> mikeru: and you are using gparted?
[02:09] <strigoi66> problem 1: semi-noob to 10.04lts I have downloaded "laby" the game of programming, and would like to know how to create more levels for "laby" anyone that has info on this would be appreciated!
[02:09] <mickster04> mikeru: ok, so just try and close it and see what happens?
[02:09] <mikeru> mickster04: Yeah, why not? Wait is that wrong?
[02:09] <Fogel> mickster04: it can be an option if i had writeable fs on it :)
[02:09] <mickster04> strigoi66: the laby website
[02:09] <Fogel> mickster04: i need some unembedded apps :)
[02:09] <mickster04> Fogel: use a usb drive, and what apps are we talking here?
[02:10] <mikeru> mickster04: Uhhh, cancel it?
[02:10] <mickster04> mikeru: yeah, if it hasn't started yet it will be fine
[02:10] <mickster04> don't force it closed
[02:10] <mickster04> mikeru: whats on the hdd
[02:10] <syrinx> mickster04, Fogel, usb drive is key
[02:10] <strigoi66> mickster04: I have spent 3 days searching on how to's for "laby" including their home site and have come up empty handed!
[02:10] <mikeru> "Canceling an operation might cause SEVERE file system damage"
[02:10] <syrinx> oh noes
[02:10] <mickster04> strigoi66: well this is ubuntu support, not laby
[02:10] <Fogel> mickster04: ex. dynamic window manager, kdevelop, openldap
[02:11] <mickster04> mikeru: don't stop it then >:(
[02:11] <strigoi66> sorry i will try #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:11] <mickster04> Fogel: why not install ubuntu?
[02:11] <syrinx> ^man has a point
[02:11] <mickster04> :D
[02:11] <Fogel> mickster04: i'm trying to do it now
[02:11] <mikeru> mickster04: wont
[02:11] <syrinx> Fogel, can always install win7 as a VM
[02:12] <Fogel> syrinx: on 3G's ram?
[02:12] <mickster04> mikeru: that's irritating, whats on it?
[02:12] <Fogel> syrinx: with VS2010?
[02:12] <syrinx> dude, lrn2mono
[02:12] <mickster04> Fogel: well then :D
[02:12] <mickster04> syrinx: monodevelop isn't all that good, and it doesn't do winforms or WPF
[02:13] <syrinx> Fogel, its actually quite good
[02:13] <Fogel> syrinx: no better ide on earth than VS
[02:13] <mickster04> arguably
[02:13] <syrinx> I mean, i guess its a matter of taste, and while I agree with that statement about VS, you take the good and the bad
[02:13] <syrinx> unless you have 2 boxes that run both OSes
[02:14] <mikeru> mickster04: all my files
[02:14] <mickster04> mikeru: have you backed them up?
[02:14] <Fogel> syrinx: at work i have, with synergy
[02:14] <syrinx> giving yourself a bigger headache than the advil can handle if you ask me
[02:14] <mikeru> mickster04: Nope :P
[02:14] <mickster04> mikeru: gah :/ uhm, then give it a while longer, you really shoulda worked out a way of backing up :p
[02:15] <_skpl> what is a good backup.restore software?
[02:15] <Fogel> syrinx: exactly win 7 + gentoo linux, 2 monitors for each, one keyboard and mouse for all of them
[02:15] <_skpl> bakcup/restore i mean
[02:15] <mickster04> _skpl: copy paste :p
[02:15] <mickster04> !backup
[02:15] <mickster04> _skpl: is ^^that ok?
[02:15] <membrex> hi
[02:15] <mickster04> hi
[02:16] <Fogel> syrinx: at home i don't have such nice workstation
[02:16] <zombie_> anybody here
[02:16] <membrex> i need help to remastering xubuntu 10.04 for education purpose ,
[02:16] <membrex> maybe any tuts or reference that i can get from here ?
[02:17] <syrinx> Fogel, i hear that, and to be honest I was dual booting to 7 up until 4 weeks ago because of VS and starcraft2, but I gotta tell ya man, theres more out there
[02:17] <mickster04> membrex: there is already a remastered one for educational purposes
[02:17] <zombie_> I have an Issue with MAMEGUI whenever I try and load a rom it sends me back to the login screen I'm on Ubuntu 10.10
[02:17] <Fogel> syrinx: i have VS commercial licence and i use it for work :)
[02:17] <syrinx> ubuntu introduced me to PERL! and its gonna be really hard to fix your problem because you have 5 partitions of varying types on 1 disk
[02:18] <membrex> yup but i need to input some web application in the distro for my school
[02:18] <syrinx> thats risky business, fogel
[02:18] <sambagirlx> what is VS
[02:18] <syrinx> visual studi
[02:18] <zombie_> (HELLO)) I need help...
[02:18] <syrinx> studio*
[02:18] <zombie_> me/ ...
[02:18] <syrinx> zombie_ fail
[02:18] <zombie_> wtf
[02:19] <sambagirlx> oh you mean that microsoft video studio?
[02:19] <sambagirlx> visual
[02:19] <zombie_> I ask for help and you make fun of me
[02:19] <Fogel> sambagirlx: exactly
[02:19] <mickster04> !ask
[02:19] <ejv> zombie_: ignore him
[02:19] <mickster04> !details
[02:19] <ejv> just ask
[02:19] <{950}Yoshi> has anyone had luck installing ubuntu on Averatec laptop?
[02:19] <syrinx> Sambagirlx, no, its used to develop applications in the .NET framework
[02:19] <Logan_WP> zombie_: You can find help in their online forums: http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=mameui
[02:19] <sambagirlx> ok
[02:19] <ejv> wth is Averatec
[02:20] <{950}Yoshi> it's a laptop..like acer
[02:20]  * ejv cringes
[02:20] <sambagirlx> on the new xoom by motorola has anyone tried ubuntu on that platform?
[02:20] <sambagirlx> yoshi i have a acer laptop and it works perfect
[02:20] <{950}Yoshi> i have ubuntu installed but touchpad & keyboard work for 3 seconds then it stops working...
[02:20] <sambagirlx> among others
[02:20] <rtdos> having issues removing a program: openoffice.org--coooder (a syntax hilighter for openoffice) - when i try to reinstall it or remove it, i keep getting told that openoffice is running in the background. how can i remove and purge 'openoffice.org-coooder' ?
[02:20] <mickster04> {950}Yoshi: just install it, we can help you if it goes wrong
[02:21] <ejv> south korean, interesting {950}Yoshi  ;)
[02:21] <{950}Yoshi> not sure what to do after that..been looking on the forums but cant find a resolution.
[02:21] <ejv> north korea has to be so jealous of south korea, they now have laptop manufacturers... heheh
[02:21] <syrinx> rtdos, kill the proc
[02:21] <{950}Yoshi> I'm in the US...laptop was purchased at Sams club years ago
[02:21] <sambagirlx> yoshi have you tried an external mouse and keyboard to work out the problem?
[02:21] <{950}Yoshi> yes sambagirlx
[02:21] <sambagirlx> do those other pheripherals work?
[02:22] <zombie_> [  I finally found mame on ubuntu 10.10 and its called Mame Gui, the software loads and everything but whenever I get to the roms and double click on one it sends me back to the login screen etc.  I hate having to, retype/ reload everything, I'm pretty /sending me back to login=Crash so, Would anybody know why Mame GUI is crashing back to login screen.  Any help would be Great!  People don't flame me for asking this!
[02:22] <Fogel> syrinx: when i'll get new laptop i'll have linux and win7 under VMWare on unite mode
[02:22] <ejv> {950}Yoshi: yea im just reporting their roots are from south korea, apparently they are doing quite well, im digging up their stock price
[02:22] <{950}Yoshi> it recongizes it for a short period of time then it goes crazy and keeps the keys pressed..
[02:22] <Logan_WP> !repeat | zombie_
[02:22] <Fogel> syrinx: but till then i have to use dual boot - windows makes me want to throw notebook out of the window
[02:22] <sambagirlx> have you checked the bios or set it to default or legacy?
[02:22] <{950}Yoshi> only one usb connection at a time so i have to pull the mouse out and plug the kb in..and vice versa
[02:22] <mickster04> !who
[02:22] <deckard42> I cannot for the life of me get grub2 to chainload my XP installation
[02:23] <sambagirlx> will ubuntu on the motorola xoom?
[02:23] <mickster04> deckard42: what happens?
[02:23] <goldeneye>  hello : i have an external monitor and ubuntu 10.10 installed n my laptop. whenever i connect it to my monitor and switch to the bigger screen and start typing on keyboard, it just flickers and puts me back on the laptop screen. Any idea?
[02:23] <syrinx> Fogel, cant blame you, what model laptop?
[02:23] <Fogel> syrinx: Asus F3S for now
[02:23] <zombie_> I might sign up with the Ubuntu people I'm a long time windows users and I just switched to ubuntu 10.10 because frankly I hate windows xp
[02:23] <ejv> hmmm i don't think averatec is publicly traded... can anyone confirm?
[02:23] <AndMar> how do I know If i found the right name for the computer and the printer?
[02:23] <deckard42> I get an error message "Windows could not start because of a computer disk hardware configuration problem"
[02:23] <gimpy4685> Trying to set up network bonding in 10.10 x64. I followed these instructions for the 10.04 section from this link but it says it is ignoring unknown interfaces eth0, eth1, and bond0 then sticks eth0 and eth1 into DHCP even though there is no line in /etc/network/interfaces which tell it to do so.
[02:23] <syrinx> Fogel, its a tough transition, but it'll happen
[02:24] <Fogel> syrinx: but i'll have Dell Vostro V3500 when i'll get the payment for last job
[02:24] <deckard42> I have an OLD ubuntu installation on a different drive, that has grub1, and its entry for XP still works
[02:24] <syrinx> when it does, let it happen dude, best thing I ever did
[02:24] <zombie_> bye
[02:24] <mickster04> !who
[02:24] <deckard42> so right now to boot XP i have to make my BIOS boot from that drive, so I can chainload XP from the old version of grub
[02:24] <ejv> leaving so soon zombie_
[02:24] <mickster04> deckard42: sounds like a windows problem
[02:24] <AndMar> mickster I tried that but it still isnt working
[02:24]  * syrinx smiles
[02:24] <AndMar> how do i know if i got the right names?
[02:24] <syrinx> XP, hah!
[02:25] <sambagirlx> yoshi what is the machine type and model?
[02:25] <deckard42> heh, that's not a very satisfactory answer. it works with grub1 so something must be right
[02:25] <{950}Yoshi> sambagirlx: it's a Averatec 6100 series laptop
[02:25] <mikeru> I think I'll leave it overnight
[02:25] <mikeru> Hope its ready tomorrow
[02:25] <deckard42> the grub1 syntax is ridiculously simple, and works. and the grub2 syntax that was generated when it detected XP is convoluted and uses completely undocumented commands, and fails
[02:26] <mickster04> deckard42: grub2 is easier, you don't have to touch the stuff that is generated? it does it all automagically?
[02:26] <deckard42> that would be great if what it did automagically worked
[02:26] <{950}Yoshi> @sambagirlx:  touchpad and keyboard works sometimes and then just locks up...wasn't sure if i needed to load something before installing..i'm using the whole drive to install, no other OS's on the notebook
[02:26] <sambagirlx> yoshi here is some info i found on the forum. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=423718
[02:27] <sambagirlx> yoshi ok
[02:27] <mickster04> deckard42: i have never had a problem
[02:27] <mickster04> !who
[02:27] <mickster04> use tab complete on nicks pls
[02:27] <sambagirlx> that is a korean mfg laptop i see.
[02:27] <sambagirlx> umm
[02:27] <{950}Yoshi> @sambagirlx: yes it is
[02:27] <syrinx> the hyundai of computers? sweet!
[02:27] <sambagirlx> what keyboard are use using korean? japanese? usa?
[02:27] <garrybaal> @all hi guys I switch from windows to Ubuntu 10.10 X64  can i download update in the office and install it to my  computer at home with no internet connection?
[02:28] <nictrasavios> Whats the channel to report major bugs?
[02:28] <mickster04> !bug
[02:28] <mickster04> nictrasavios: check it hasn't already been raised
[02:28] <nictrasavios> it hasent.
[02:28] <Fogel> syrinx: so i need windows and want linux, i can install gentoo on it without any problem but the video drivers (nouveau does not work, nvidia fails to read EDID) - so i wanted ubuntu, but it seems it's impossoble to install it...
[02:28] <nictrasavios> nobody knew anything .
[02:28] <nictrasavios> and its pretty dang critical, its a Xorg bug.
[02:28] <membrex> anyone form indonesia ?
[02:28] <mickster04> Fogel: system > admin > hardware drivers?
[02:28] <membrex> from
[02:28] <mickster04> !ot
[02:29] <phoenixsampras> Help!! why hibernation DOESNT hibernate?? sony vaio vpcf115fm
[02:29] <Fogel> mickster04: nope, problem with partition table
[02:29] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: have you got swap?
[02:29] <sambagirlx> yoshi have you tried any other distributions? or bsd or solaris? do you have similar problems if you have?
[02:29] <Fogel> mickster04: the best way is to use cp to install system :)
[02:29] <syrinx> Fogel, installation hangs at the partition part?
[02:29] <Fogel> syrinx: not hangs
[02:29] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: clean new installation..... have 500gb space
[02:29] <{950}Yoshi> sambagirlx: i was just using the laptop, then used a dell keyboard..
[02:29] <Fogel> syrinx: requires me to create new partition table for volume
[02:29] <sambagirlx> have you searched for drivers within ubuntu?
[02:30] <syrinx> Fogel, the ENTIRE volume?
[02:30] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: doesn't mean you have swap space?
[02:30] <gaelfx> garrybaal: yes, it is possible, however, it's not the simplest thing to do
[02:30] <Fogel> syrinx: yep
[02:30] <deckard42> do nobody else here has had experience with grub2 not correctly setting up Windows XP chainloading, and needing to tweak it?
[02:30] <wolfgang> gtg
[02:30] <syrinx> all 250g work
[02:30] <wolfgang> Have a good night
[02:30] <syrinx> well shoot
[02:30] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: how to know that?
[02:30] <{950}Yoshi> samba: i haven't yet..any suggestions on other OS's...maybe suse?
[02:30] <sambagirlx> did you check for additional drivers yoshi under system?
[02:30] <{950}Yoshi> samba: yes i did search for drivers but no luck.
[02:30] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: system monitor, then one of the tabs shows swap space
[02:30] <night_owl> what does an archive manager, like file roller, do?
[02:30] <Fogel> syrinx: work is no problem - i have external drive
[02:31] <sambagirlx> suse is worth the look. ibm supports it and distributes it on lenovo systems.
[02:31] <syrinx> Fogel, can you delete them individually? or only one option?
[02:31] <mickster04> nictrasavios: manages archives
[02:31] <Fogel> syrinx: problem is windows installation that i need and it would take me at least week to reinstall and reconfigure it
[02:31] <Fogel> syrinx: it does not see any partition
[02:31] <mickster04> night_owl: manages archives?
[02:31] <Logan_WP> !file-roller | night_owl
[02:31] <sambagirlx> unfortunately i have not really found any info for you.
[02:31] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: yeh lots of space, 8gb
[02:31] <Fogel> syrinx: it can only create new partition table
[02:31] <{950}Yoshi> sambagirlx: k, i'll try re-installing ubuntu one last time and if no luck give suse a shot...
[02:32] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: so what happens when you try?
[02:32] <nictrasavios> mickster04:  huh?
[02:32] <mickster04> nictrasavios: wrong nick
[02:32] <night_owl> ok, thantks
[02:32] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: i close the lid... and the laptop still works
[02:32] <Fogel> syrinx: the best way to install buntu would be cp and chroot
[02:32] <sambagirlx> yoshi have you reset bios to default? looked for any legacy options or other o/s options in bios?
[02:32] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: well that won't put it in hibernate?
[02:32] <{950}Yoshi> samba: nope
[02:32] <derp|LAPTOP> phoenixsampras: get them drivers and update Ubuntu
[02:32] <derp|LAPTOP> :)
[02:32] <syrinx> Fogel, dcc
[02:32] <sambagirlx> try that first before you do anything :)
[02:33] <phoenixsampras> derp|LAPTOP: any ideas what or which drivers?
[02:33] <Fogel> syrinx: w8... there is sth called debootsstrap - is there syh like that for ubuntu?
[02:33] <{950}Yoshi> samba: the bios is pretty limited..most you can do is change the boot options and disable num lock etc..
[02:33] <derp|LAPTOP> phoenixsampras: the drivers for your confirugattion
[02:33] <{950}Yoshi> i'll look again and see what I can find..
[02:33] <derp|LAPTOP> I'm running Ubuntu in dual boot with OS X
[02:33] <derp|LAPTOP> works fine.
[02:33] <{950}Yoshi> thanks for your help..
[02:33] <sambagirlx> ok it just makes sense to do that first.
[02:33] <sambagirlx> your welcome yosho
[02:33] <sambagirlx> yoshi
[02:33] <{950}Yoshi> will do..i'll come back if it doesn't work
[02:34] <{950}Yoshi> :)
[02:34] <phoenixsampras> derp|LAPTOP: how to install drivers for sony vaio?
[02:34] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: system > admin > hardware drivers, if nothin gis listed it is all installde, then run update manager, or sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in terminal
[02:34] <tta> mince ils sont rapide ici quoi
[02:35] <mickster04> !en
[02:35] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: "No propietary driverrs are installed on this system" nothing to choice, then i Ran apt-get update and upgrade, nothing was installed
[02:36] <DustD420> ls
[02:36] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: then everything is up to date
[02:36] <Logan_WP> !fr | tta
[02:36] <Fogel> syrinx: what do you mean by dcc?
[02:36] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: so whats the next step to make hibernation to run?
[02:37] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: well what do you do to start it hibernating?
[02:37] <syrinx> type "/dcc syrinx"
[02:37] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: close the lid...
[02:37] <Fogel> syrinx: ah, ok
[02:37] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: have you changed the settings so it is supposed to hibernate on lid close?
[02:37] <sambagirlx> does anyone know if ubuntu has touch screen capabilities for use on a  laptop touch screen?
[02:39] <rand_u> i need to write a formula whereby it checks to see what is entered as flat dollar amount or a percentage and calculate depending on what has been entered into the box
[02:39] <phoenixsampras> mickster04:  PM says, when lid is closed = suspend
[02:39] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: but aint suspending
[02:39] <rand_u> * in openoffice spreadsheet
[02:40] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: pm?
[02:41] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: suspend != hibernate
[02:41] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: power management
[02:41] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: i tried with suspend and hibernate, aint working
[02:42] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: did you reboot between changing the settings, and how much ram you got?
[02:43] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: rebooting.... and I have 8Gb Ram
[02:43] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: then if your swap is being used a bit already, you may find it won't hibernate because it uses the swap to store the ram stuff:/ but if the swap space being used < free space on ram you should be ok
[02:45] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: so if i have 8gb on swap, my 8gb ram is being swaped, so doesnt fit
[02:45] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: possibly, basically swap takes over when your ram is full...and you need the swap space to hybernate to...but i can't see your swap being used if your ram is that big
[02:46] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: so set it to hybernate, then reboot and try closing the lid and waitig a second, alternatively, try selecting hibernate from the power button optoins
[02:46] <Greg> Hi. I'm able to "connect to server" to transfer files from a xp box to my ubuntu box, but I can't go through the Network option in the folder tree. I get an Unable to mount location error. Why?
[02:46] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: okis
[02:46] <salamand1r> se me fueron los botoncitos para cerrar,maximizar en ubunut-eeepc-maximus problem
[02:46] <nictrasavios> phoenixsampras: 8gb ram = 24gb of swap as a rule of thumb :P
[02:46] <mickster04> !en
[02:46] <nictrasavios> phoenixsampras: 8gb ram = 16-24 *
[02:47] <mickster04> nictrasavios: wrong 8gb ram = 12 gb swap
[02:47] <nictrasavios> mickster04: depends on who you ask :P
[02:47] <mickster04> nictrasavios: 1.5 is plenty
[02:47] <nictrasavios> mickster04: if your kernel crashes twice in a row, your screwed then :P
[02:47] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: do you not get any error messages?
[02:47] <tta> aventi
[02:47] <mickster04> nictrasavios: i don't use hibernate, no problem for me :D
[02:48] <mickster04> nictrasavios: i have 16gb ram :/ so i would need a tonne of swap
[02:48] <nictrasavios> mickster04: fine for you :P but the rule i use is 1.5x for users, 2x for power users, 3x for devs like myself.
[02:48] <Fogel> mickster04: nice machine ^^
[02:48] <salamand1r> Does anyone have issues with maximus??
[02:49] <nictrasavios> mickster04: So i gotta rock 60gb of swap, which is nothing on the 5TB Raid array.
[02:49] <Fogel> mickster04: i think debootstrap is solution for my problem, i totally forgot about it...
[02:49] <mickster04> Fogel: i never get above 4gb ram usage tho :/ i kinda bought the extra 8 in the hope the first 8 was broken, it wasn't so i had 16...the mobo had died, free replacement tho :D
[02:49] <brunner> where does ubuntu store all my settings, about where all of my shortcuts are on my gnome panels?
[02:49] <Greg> Why can i can my Ubuntu box connect to one xp box, but asks for a password (which I don't have) for the other?
[02:49] <brunner> my laptop died
[02:49] <Fogel> brunner: in ~
[02:49] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: why sometimes after start an hibernated sony vaio laptop, the back-light is black?
[02:50] <brunner> Fogel: yes, but where?
[02:50] <brunner> I can't find it
[02:50] <Fogel> brunner: depends on apps
[02:50] <nictrasavios> mickster04: only reason i need 20gb ram is when i run 3 monitors in Win 7, Photoshop, Dreamweiver and then "meh" on the 3rd :(
[02:50] <Fogel> brunner: tried ls -al ~ ?
[02:50] <mickster04> salamaximus?
[02:50] <brunner> Fogel: shortcut placements depend on the apps they're linking to?
[02:50] <rww> brunner: in Gconf, I think. run "gconf-editor", look in /apps/panel inside it.
[02:51] <rww> brunner: I'm not running GNOME, so I can't check for you :(
[02:51] <brunner> rww: thank you.  where are the gconf settings stored?
[02:51] <Fogel> brunner: shortcuts nope, try ~/Desktop
[02:51] <rww> brunner: ~/.gconf or ~/.gconfd, I forget which.
[02:51] <brunner> Fogel: are you serious?
[02:51] <Greg> Sombody who understands networking well plz?
[02:51] <brunner> rww: thank you.
[02:51] <nictrasavios> Oh this is the place to ask!
[02:51] <rww> brunner: the one with a bunch of .xml files in it.
[02:51] <nictrasavios> Has anyone ever got CS5 Master collection running via wine on ubuntu?
[02:51] <mickster04> Greg: are they on a different workgruop?
[02:51] <tta> greg:go ahead
[02:52] <Greg> Nope, all on a workgroup called WORKGROUP
[02:52] <mickster04> nictrasavios: try playonlinux, they may have prepared settings for that
[02:52] <nictrasavios> mickster04: not for cs5 :( or any master
[02:52] <mickster04> Greg: are the network settings the same
[02:52] <mickster04> nictrasavios: oh, sorry :/
[02:52] <Greg> 2 xp boxes and one win7 connect to each other. One ubuntu box can see one of the xp boxes.
[02:52] <nictrasavios> mickster04: yea ive been trying to get rid of windows for weeks now. Gonna get OSX 7 off a friend and use that.
[02:53] <mickster04> nictrasavios: i'd rather you didn't admit to piracy on here :/
[02:53] <mickster04> nictrasavios: or breaking the eula for that os
[02:53] <nictrasavios> mickster04:  not piracy?
[02:53] <Greg> the 2 xp installations are literally identical except in name.
[02:53] <nictrasavios> mickster04: im paying for it, he works at a mac store lmao.
[02:54] <phoenixsampras> Help!! how to install the snmp client service?
[02:54] <mickster04> Greg: uhm, i think it uses your username to log into samba, which seeing as the xp box doesn't have, it breaks :/
[02:54] <mickster04> !snmp
[02:54] <nictrasavios> mickster04: and this is a macbook pro, i got it for highschool , and .... kinda... sorta... courrputed the harddrive.
[02:54] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: what does the snmp stuff do>?
[02:54] <Greg> but why can I see the one, yet not the other?
[02:54] <mickster04> nictrasavios: ah ok
[02:55] <nictrasavios> mickster04: and then kinda...sorta... took it apart and replaced alot of the parts lmao.
[02:55] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: im trying to setup zenoss and it is asking for snmp service on all ubuntus
[02:55] <mickster04> Greg: oh you can't see it?
[02:55] <Greg> No. I can only see the Shares from One of the xp boxes, from ubuntu
[02:55] <nictrasavios> mickster04: O.O uh, how to you clean out a ton of system files.
[02:55] <mickster04> nictrasavios: select and delete?
[02:55] <nictrasavios> mickster04: didnt mean to select your name lmao.
[02:56] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: does it explain what for?
[02:56] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: try http://www.it-slav.net/blogs/2009/02/05/install-and-configure-snmp-on-ubuntu/
[02:56] <nictrasavios> Anyone know a tool to get rid of all unessary system files... my / partition (seperate from /home) is almost maxxed.... 14/15gb ... space isnt a problem but thats way to much.
[02:57] <mickster04> nictrasavios: system > adin > janitor (o
[02:57] <mickster04> the changing of the guards?
[02:57] <nictrasavios> mickster04: Dont have it, this is a Gnacktrack with Mint installed over it, US added into it and then some fancy stuff
[02:57] <mickster04> night_owl: what?
[02:58] <sacarlson> Greg: did you try connect to the ip address of you unseen xp box from Places>connect server>windows share>ip address  ?
[02:58] <Fogel> erm... what is the newest kernel on ubuntu?
[02:58] <jfe> hi all
[02:58] <mickster04> night_owl: sorry wrong nick
[02:58] <Greg> Yes. that's how I tried.
[02:58] <jfe> is there any program that does graph plotting that is simpler to use than gnuplot?
[02:58] <Mintz> !ops T̷̘̻͕̜͈͙̺̏͆̾͆̿̐ͩ̕͞͡r̸̗̳̫͕͍̣̦̰̤ͥ̌̽ͪ̄̐ͭ̄o̓ͧ̑͌͌ͨ͗ͮͦ̀͢҉̮̮̠̯̙̖̱̯͡l̯̜̜͇̲͕͑̓̓̊̈͒̿̇͆ͧ̏̀ͫ̇ͯ̓͜͞l̴̵ͩ̆͗ͨ̌͌ͧ̎͗̄̚҉͉̙̜̜͙͉̱͈̯̳̫̺̗̭i̲͙̣̣̣̬̲̥̫̤͓͙ͮ̉̇ͪ͒̄͒̀̚͜͢ͅn̴͕̘̠͇͇̥̥̟͎͖̼̍ͦ̆̎ͯͧ͊͐́͝g̸̸̢͎̫͚͎̙̥̪͇͔̝̹͇̠̥̠͖̰͓̺̒ͧ̅ͫ͒̃̒̂͗̄ͩ͐̅̄͗̃̋̑̕
[02:59] <Ley> Trololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoololoolololing!
[02:59] <rww> mickster04: they get unhappy when one of the FloodBots gets disconnected.
[02:59] <sacarlson> Fogel: newist probly found in ppa if you want to be close to the edge
[02:59] <Greg> I can "see" the shares of one Xp box, but I can't "mount" them, so I use "connect to server" and use the IP. The Other IP however, asks for a password to log on.
[02:59] <phoenixsampras> what is a good RDP GUI client?
[02:59] <phoenixsampras> what is a good RDP/VNC GUI client?
[03:00] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: the default one? apps> internet > remoet desktop viewer?
[03:00] <artemwolf> Gnome-RDP
[03:00] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: not saying rdp on that app
[03:00] <Fogel> sacarlson: debootstrap gives me 2.6.35-22 - it's not too new
[03:00] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: ok
[03:01] <ndxtg> hi, i just installed a server, need to install minimal gnome, do you know what are the packages? cant google it, I know one is gnome-core but not sure the others
[03:01] <mickster04> ndxtg: why do you need gnome? its a server? you'll need x server first aswell?
[03:02] <ndxtg> mickster04: yea, but i dont remember the exact package names, cant google it out (I need to install a minimal ubuntu and its the only way)
[03:03] <beachbum_Bob> Help  with audio problem on Toshiba, U10.10 ...alsa and adour don't work..what is the name of a forced version?  launchpad doesn't work either
[03:03] <Fogel> sacarlson: only 2.6.35 on ppa - i'll just build one from kernel.org
[03:03] <mickster04> ndxtg: you know of minimal install cd, aka alternate install, also ubuntu-mini
[03:04] <durando> anyone here have experience with tomatousb (linux based firmware for routers) i really need some help and cant seem anyone that is able to
[03:04] <maco> mickster04: alternate and mini arent the same
[03:04] <webPragmatist> how can i print this an -exec
[03:04] <webPragmatist> and*
[03:04] <webPragmatist> find /srv/assets/backups/postgres/ -type f -ctime +7 -exec rm {} \;
[03:04] <maco> mickster04: they use the same install mechanism, but alt has the packages on it. mini grabs them from the internet
[03:05] <mickster04> maco: yeah i know they aren';t the same, i would have use d "aka" not "also"
[03:05] <sacarlson> forgel: seems I found this in ppa http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.38-rc6-natty/
[03:05] <ndxtg> mickster04: I thought alternate is like the normal desktop CD, except it does not have "Try it live" , so when installed, it comes with lot of apps
[03:05] <maco> mickster04: er but you said "minimal install cd, aka alternate install"
[03:05] <maco> mickster04: so i thought it was supposed to be a list of names for one thing
[03:05] <bisu[Shield]> I have a tar.gz for mysql, where is it usually installed?
[03:06] <mickster04> maco: well i thought you were reffereing to ubuntu-mini when you said mini, but what does the minimal install do?
[03:06] <ndxtg> so... does anyone know what is the list of package names to have a minimal Gnome on ubuntu server?
[03:06] <[TK]D-Fender> bisu[Shield]: First you dont normally touch tarballs for Ubuntu.
[03:06] <[TK]D-Fender> bisu[Shield]: You install DEB packages
[03:06] <ian_> hello
[03:06] <ian_> I need to ask a quick question.
[03:06] <[TK]D-Fender> bisu[Shield]: And even more commonly just install for the repo's you've already got
[03:06] <mickster04> ndxtg: do you have a browser available?
[03:06] <mickster04> !ask
[03:06] <ian_> I'm in the nano menu for ubuntu server.
[03:07] <bisu[Shield]> lol, c'mon why is it so difficult to instally mysql 5.5 on ubuntu
[03:07] <bisu[Shield]> OMG
[03:07] <ian_> How do i exit out? it say "^x"
[03:07] <maco> mickster04: i'm confused now. there's an alternate cd and a mini cd.  are you referring to an option ON the alternate cd?
[03:07] <mickster04> bisu[Shield]: have you tried sudo apt-get install?
[03:07] <ndxtg> mickster04: as said above, google does not help
[03:07] <dubs_> I installed mysql 5.5 on ubuntu server and it is quite a bit faster
[03:07] <ian_> can someone tell me really quickly what ^X means?
[03:07] <maco> ian_: ctrl X
[03:07] <dataworm> How do I install Xen on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Server? I can't beleive Xen does't come with it
[03:07] <ian_> thanks, very much.
[03:07] <mickster04> maco: i thought there was a minimal cd and also an ubuntu-min, a remix which is just smaller
[03:08] <mickster04> !xen | dataworm
[03:08] <maco> mickster04: no... desktop, alternate, mini
[03:08] <maco> mickster04: i think both alternate and mini let you choose which packages are installed though
[03:08] <mickster04> maco: http://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/
[03:08] <mickster04> ndxtg: so you've seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1068775
[03:09] <maco> mickster04: "Ubuntu Mini Remix is an idea by Fabrizio Balliano and is not recognized, supported or sponsored in any way by Ubuntu and Canonical. This means that this is not an official Ubuntu project."
[03:09] <rtdos> it worked syrnix.
[03:09] <rtdos>  btw, how do i get into grub (or safe mode) so that i can do any necessary repairs?) when i am / was using startup manager to edit grub for me but when i select safe mode it just continues to boot.
[03:09] <maco> mickster04: thatd explain why ive not heard of it. i also wonder whether it's a trademark policy violation....
[03:09] <mickster04> maco: yeah, but for ndxtg's purposes it may well be useful
[03:10] <l4ng1t> is there any solution how to detect webcam? gstreamer-properties cannot find my webcam :(
[03:10] <ndxtg> mickster04: thank you for the link, problem solved!!!
[03:10] <mickster04> ndxtg: awesome
[03:11] <l4ng1t> please help..
[03:12] <sacarlson> l4ng1t: it should be seen with sudo lshw
[03:12] <Greg> So, anyone got an idea why I'm asked for a password to one xp box, but not the other identical one?
[03:13] <Greg> nevermind it.
[03:13] <mickster04> l4ng1t: have you tried cheese?
[03:14] <mickster04> !wevcam
[03:14] <mickster04> !webcam
[03:14] <Mission_Control> !webcam
[03:14] <l4ng1t> mickster04:  cheese doesnt detect my webcam too
[03:14] <ian_> i'm getting an error.
[03:14] <Mission_Control> ?
[03:14] <mickster04> Mission_Control: beat you to it :p
[03:14] <ian_> could someone tell me what the issue is?
[03:15] <Logan_WP> mickster04: please use !command | user
[03:15] <ian_> the error is as follows.
[03:15] <Mission_Control> I don't get it
[03:15] <mickster04> l4ng1t: check the link
[03:15] <Mission_Control> !webcam
[03:15] <mickster04> !paste | ian_:
[03:15] <ian_> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart No such device eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device Failed to bring up eth0. [OK]
[03:15] <l4ng1t> ok mickster04
[03:15] <ian_> okay, thanks.
[03:16] <ian_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/573301/
[03:16] <ian_> there's my issue.
[03:16] <mickster04> can i help you Logan_WP
[03:16] <Logan_WP> mickster04: no...?
[03:16] <ian_> i think the issue is a bad network card.
[03:16] <ian_> i have another two.
[03:16] <mickster04> 03:15 [ubuntu] Logan_WP [~Logan_WP@wikipedia/Logan] requested CTCP VERSION from mickster04:
[03:16] <Logan_WP> mickster04: I was checking your client version
[03:16] <mickster04> Logan_WP: why?
[03:17] <Logan_WP> just curious
[03:17] <mickster04> ian_: try sudo service networking start
[03:17] <sacarlson> ian_: take a look at what is seen with  ifconfig   maybe your lan number got changed to eth1
[03:17] <mickster04> Logan_WP: what version am i using?
[03:17] <Logan_WP> irssi v0.8.15
[03:17] <ian_> thanks.
[03:18] <mickster04> Logan_WP: very good :) i don't maintain this server :p
[03:18] <Logan_WP> oh :P
[03:18] <eoss> hello, how can i hack a root computer screen
[03:18] <mickster04> !hack
[03:18] <_skpl> hehe
[03:18] <mickster04> eoss: redifne the question
[03:19] <ian_> mickster04: i get "networking stop/waiting"
[03:19] <eoss> i want to get a root for a computer box i hax on china
[03:19] <Diamondcite> ... What do you mean? As in force the creation of a root account in ubuntu which doesn't have a root?
[03:19] <l4ng1t> sacarlson: there is my issue and i dont know where is my webcam : http://pastebin.com/f5snWzUn
[03:19] <mickster04> ian_: r/start/restart
[03:19] <mickster04> !illegal eoss
[03:19] <eoss> i need to root the monitor box so i can gain access to the screen saver
[03:19] <mickster04> !illegal | eoss
[03:20] <Haqqkcb> Hi
[03:20] <eoss> i am from the internet you cannot do that
[03:20] <ian_> mickster04: what does that do?
[03:20] <mickster04> ian_: restarts the networking services, like you were trying to do
[03:20] <mickster04> eoss: i am also from the internet an i can
[03:20] <Haqqkcb> Sup
[03:20] <mickster04> Haqqkcb: hey
[03:21] <eoss> make a bet to my paypal account then
[03:21] <bazhang> eoss, wrong network
[03:21] <mickster04> only if you have a fortune you need help unlcoking
[03:21] <mickster04> unlocking*
[03:21] <Haqqkcb> Over here stressing over crap android purchase
[03:21] <bazhang> eoss, and very offtopic on this channel. mickster04 lets move on
[03:21] <mickster04> Haqqkcb: uhm ubuntu help?
[03:21] <mickster04> bazhang: agreed
[03:21] <Scunizi> Interesting little change on 10.10... when you have programs open in Virtual Desktop 2 (or any other) the taskbar representation of that program only shows up when you're actually in that virtual desktop.. much cleaner
[03:22] <Kurobu> I have a smidge of an issue. I havn't touched my fresh install of 10.10 for quite a while in vbox, now I've forgotten the various passwords. I could recover these, however, the GRUB screen won't show, and since I don't know the passwords, I can't edit the GRUB configuration to have it show at boot.
[03:22] <sacarlson> l4ng1t: no I see no webcam in that list what type is it, built in?  usb?
[03:22] <l4ng1t> sacarlson: built in..  :(
[03:22] <sacarlson> l4ng1t: look in bios at boot and look to be sure it's set active
[03:23] <l4ng1t> sacarlson: ok.. brb
[03:23] <Diamondcite> l4ng1t: Could you please specify the full model and make of your notebook/laptop? I don't see your webcam as being detected at all..
[03:23] <l4ng1t> Diamondcite: my notebook is Lenovo ideapad Y460
[03:23] <ian_> ifconfig is giving me zeros and a local ip
[03:24] <mickster04> kurasimulate a reboot and pressthe escape key when it reboots
[03:24]  * l4ng1t brb.. restart notebook
[03:24] <mickster04> ian_: pastebin?
[03:24] <Kurobu> mickster04, was that dierected at me?
[03:25] <mickster04> Kurobu: uhm, yes,
[03:25] <mickster04> :(
[03:25] <Kurobu> It won't work
[03:25] <Kurobu> I've tried
[03:25] <mickster04> Kurobu: ok
[03:25] <Kurobu> the grub screen doesn't show
[03:26] <Kurobu> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[03:26] <mickster04> Kurobu: have you tried repeatdly pressing the esc key? or the up/down keys ?
[03:26] <Kurobu> I cannot be rid of this without having the passwords to sudo changing the config
[03:26] <ian_> mickster04: what should i run to check if it's on or not?
[03:26] <ylmfos> 大家好
[03:26] <Kurobu> GRUB simply doesn't show, not even for a split second
[03:27] <mickster04> ian_: well there should be eth3 listed from the ifconfig command
[03:27] <mickster04> Kurobu: reinstall...:P
[03:27] <mickster04> Kurobu: re install grub anyway
[03:27] <Kurobu> I can't do anything administratively
[03:27] <Kurobu> looks like I literally do have to reinstall ubuntu lol
[03:27] <trism> Kurobu: you could use the live cd iso and mount the partition
[03:27] <mickster04> Kurobu: eh? live cd and fix grub like that? can you not do that?
[03:28] <Kurobu> Hrm, guess I could
[03:28] <ylmfos> 大家好
[03:28] <mikeru> Ok, its been five hours and gparted hasn't finished shrinking a 124GB partition
[03:28] <mikeru> Any help
[03:28] <ylmfos> 很热闹a
[03:28] <mikeru> ?
[03:28] <bazhang> !cn | ylmfos
[03:28] <ylmfos> 看不懂
[03:28] <mickster04> ian_: eth# not eth3 optimally is should be eth0
[03:28] <bazhang> ylmfos, /join #ubuntu-cn
[03:28] <mickster04> r/is/it
[03:29] <ylmfos> 不管用
[03:29] <ian_> mickster04: http://paste.ubuntu.com/573303/
[03:29] <mickster04> !en | ylmfos
[03:30] <tta> chin chin
[03:30] <mickster04> ian_: humm.then the eeth port isn't being seen
[03:30] <opcbo> hello, every bady!
[03:30] <mickster04> !ask | opcbo
[03:30] <BlackRat90> Hey, anyone know how to access different file systems from the terminal???
[03:30] <mikeru> How do I know if gparted ia actually doing something!?
[03:30] <mickster04> BlackRat90: cd /path/here
[03:31] <ian_> mickster04: so then would the card be bad?
[03:31] <mickster04> ian_: prolly
[03:31] <BlackRat90> mickster04: That doesnt seem to work....h/o
[03:31] <mickster04> ian_: if you have a different one, try it
[03:31] <ian_> mickster04: should i swap it for another? i have three slots on the tower.
[03:31] <casa__> god night
[03:31] <mickster04> ian_: take the one out and put the otherone in
[03:31] <ian_> mickster04: could i put all three in at once and test each, or would it confuse the system?
[03:31] <l4ng1t> sacarlson: there is no menu for webcam on my BIOS :(
[03:31] <casa__> im need help for configure zsnes in ubuntu
[03:32] <mickster04> casa__: it's not particularly ubuntu related problem, try on their forums
[03:32] <casa__> \nick T1g3r
[03:32] <mickster04> ian_: safer to remove each one and have one at a time
[03:32] <brunner> if I backup /home/.private, is there ANY risk that I wouldn't be able to recover my data in the future, assuming my remember my password?
[03:32] <Kurobu> mickster04, I can't exactly figure out which device to mount when booting off of the live CD
[03:32] <ian_> mickster04: i'm afraid the tower may be bad.
[03:32] <Kurobu> I don't show any hda or hdb or anything of that nature
[03:32] <mickster04> ian_: well try different slots too
[03:32] <sacarlson> l4ng1t: it's normaly in the sublist of builtin stuf
[03:32] <ian_> mickster04: whatever, i'll check.
[03:33] <opcbo> good night?
[03:33] <mickster04> Kurobu: places>hdd?
[03:33] <Logan_WP> opcbo: okay?
[03:33] <jaysern> folks, I'm on Lucid Lynx and my system keeps hanging every time I tried to apply the most recent sun-java6-bin updates. Any ideas?
[03:33] <^Phantom^> dammit, i accidentally removed my trash icon from the panel
[03:33] <BlackRat90> Oh you can access other file systems via the /media/ folder! figured it out lol
[03:33] <mickster04> ^Phantom^: right click > add to panel
[03:33] <mikeru> ...
[03:33] <Kurobu> Got it
[03:33] <opcbo> what?
[03:33] <Kurobu> Had to mount sda1
[03:33] <mickster04> BlackRat90: is that what you meant :/ sorry
[03:33] <^Phantom^> ah, okay, thank you, mi
[03:33] <Kurobu> :D
[03:33] <OldNick> Brazilians?
[03:33] <rww> !br
[03:34] <opcbo> Logan_WP, you are?
[03:34] <jaysern> I can't even aptitude remove sun-java6-jre because it tells me that dpkg was interrupted, so it prompts me to run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:34] <Logan_WP> opcbo: Yes, I am.
[03:34] <mickster04> jaysern: what happens when you run it?
[03:34] <BlackRat90> mickster04: yeah I was talking about other partitions and the windows file system, that sort of stuff
[03:35] <mickster04> BlackRat90: my bad :/ places > hdd is also a way to get there
[03:35] <jaysern> mickster04: it just hangs after I run dpkg --configure -a with this message: Setting up sun-java6-bin (6.24-1build<IP_ADDRESS>) ...
[03:35] <mickster04> jaysern: how long do you wait?
[03:35] <BlackRat90> mickster04: yes, but im trying to get there via the terminal
[03:35] <jaysern> at the same place every time. last time I waited, it was at least 4 hours, and then i did a hard reset
[03:35] <mickster04> BlackRat90: well now you know, /media/### is good
[03:35] <jaysern> even a soft reset didnt work
[03:35] <BlackRat90> mmk thanks!
[03:36] <opcbo> i will how to do this?
[03:36] <opcbo> i'm new fans
[03:37] <tta> welcome
[03:37] <mickster04> opcbo: what is the problem?
[03:37] <Scunizi> opcbo: you're doing it. just ask a questoin
[03:37] <Fogel> wow, apparmor on ubuntu?
[03:37] <Kurobu> woot, mickster04, that did the trick
[03:38] <mickster04> Kurobu: uh what did?
[03:38] <opcbo> yes, i need some help, about the ubuntu env
[03:38] <mickster04> !details | opcbo
[03:39] <mickster04> Fogel: ya?
[03:39] <opcbo> install PCB production program with wine
[03:40] <mickster04> opcbo: ask in #wime nd check the wine appDB
[03:40] <Scunizi> opcbo: what's pcb production program.. what does it do?
[03:40] <Kurobu> mickster04, using the live CD and editing the grub config
[03:40] <mickster04> Kurobu: very good :D
[03:40] <Kurobu> got the password recovered and all good to go
[03:40] <Kurobu> thanks
[03:40] <mickster04> Kurobu: very good :D
[03:41] <mickster04> Kurobu:i had forgotten what your issue was
[03:41] <Kurobu> lol
[03:41] <Kurobu> anwho, take it easy
[03:41] <mickster04> KucukMubasir: cheers
[03:43] <mickster04> KucukMubasir: wrong nick
[03:45] <ian_> mickster04: what's the command for checking? will ifconfig tell me?
[03:45] <mickster04> ian_: yeah
[03:46] <mikeru> Ok so since nobody seems to be able to help me with my gparted related griefs, I'll ask something else
[03:46] <mickster04> ian_: if you see an eth# there, or something other than lo then you are on the right track
[03:46] <Logan_WP> !zh | opcbo
[03:46] <ian_> mickster04: Getting same results
[03:46] <ian_> i believe a cable may be out.
[03:46] <mickster04> ian_: with all of them?
[03:46] <mikeru> I have enabled VSync on my MacBook with nvidia 9400m
[03:46] <ian_> yeah
[03:46] <mickster04> ian_: naw, the cable won't make a difference, the eth# will only appear if there is a port
[03:46] <ian_> i think there's a loose cable.
[03:46] <mikeru> Yet, it doesn't work at all
[03:47] <jshriver> Is there a way to specify where you want a mysql database whne creating the database?
[03:47] <Scunizi> mikeru: you running ubuntu in a vm or something on your mac?
[03:47] <mikeru> Scunizi: Natively
[03:47] <jupdown> yo
[03:47] <jupdown> im a complete retard when it comes to using the terminal
[03:47] <Scunizi> mikeru: as a dual boot?
[03:47] <kothaguy_ubuntu> Hi
[03:47] <jupdown> but could someone tell me how to execute a user script?
[03:48] <ian_> mickster04: what is the network restart command line?
[03:48] <mickster04> jupdown: sudo chmod +x scriptname.sh
[03:48] <mikeru> Scunizi: Yip
[03:48] <mickster04> ian_: that won't make a difference, if at install it hasn't noticed it, the network service will be started on boot up
[03:48] <jupdown> ~nothing happens~
[03:48] <Scunizi> mikeru: basic q's here.. did you enable the nvidia driver in system>admin>hardware drivers?
[03:48] <ian_> i did not plug in the ethernet cable, i think i need to restart it...
[03:49] <jupdown> uh
[03:49] <mikeru> Yes
[03:49] <jupdown> I think its something like disable eth0
[03:49] <jshriver> jupdown: ./script.sh
[03:49] <jupdown> and then enable eth0
[03:49] <kothaguy_ubuntu> jupdown, :I have the same doubt,i have an script,i want to execute the install.sh,but when i type in the terminal,it is showing command not found,can any one tell me how to run an install.sh script
[03:49] <mickster04> jupdown: then sh scriptname.sh
[03:49] <Scunizi> mikeru: remember what driver it was or simply "nvidia current"?
[03:49] <silk> Is there an issue with ubuntu's AWS repositories?
[03:49] <mikeru> And enabled  sync in nvidia server settings
[03:49] <mikeru> Uhh
[03:49] <mickster04> kothaguy_ubuntu: ls then see if yoiu can see the file listed
[03:49] <mikeru> I think it was current
[03:50] <ian_> mickster04: i skipped plugging in the network cable, would restarting the tools make a difference?
[03:50] <jupdown> it gives me usage parameters
[03:50] <Scunizi> mikeru: what did you expect to happen when you enabled vsync?
[03:50] <mikeru> Scunizi: No tearing
[03:50] <mikeru> Its still there
[03:50] <phoenixsampras> can somebody advice something better than Zenoss?
[03:50] <mickster04> ian_: when you restart, the network services get started. if they can't see an eth# port, then you can't use the card to connect to the network
[03:50] <mickster04> jupdown: well enter the parameters needed for the script?
[03:50] <mickster04> phoenixsampras: what does it do?
[03:51] <mikeru> You know what I betterr aak about this when gparted is finished
[03:51] <phoenixsampras> mickster04: network monitor
[03:51] <ian_> mickster04: i didn't have the eth cable plugged in when i rebooted.
[03:51] <jupdown> root@Reimu:/home/jupdown/Downloads# ./4chandl
[03:51] <jupdown> Usage: 4chandl http://boards.4chan.org/w/1215903 /home/jupdown/downloads
[03:51] <jupdown> root@Reimu:/home/jupdown/Downloads# sh 4chandl http://boards.4chan.org/w/res/1216658 /home/jupdown/downloads
[03:51] <jupdown> 4chan downloader
[03:51] <jupdown> Downloading to "/home/jupdown/downloads" until canceled or 404'd
[03:51] <FloodBot3> jupdown: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:51] <jupdown> 4chandl: 65: Syntax error: Bad for loop variable
[03:51] <mickster04> ian_: that doesn't matter
[03:51] <mickster04> !paste | jupdown
[03:51] <Scunizi> mikeru: ok.. you probably installed nvidia-current which is an older driver .. not "current".. there is a ppa for the latest driver.  Once the ppa is listed in your sources then update upgrade and it should pull the driver in.. it's also called nvidia-current.. the ppa is x-swat.. google it.. not sure of it's exact location.
[03:52] <jupdown> T_T
[03:52] <ian_> mickster04: i think my modem might be missing.
[03:52] <mikeru> Scunizi actualky i do have a ppa
[03:52] <kothaguy_ubuntu> mickster04, : i can find it,http://paste.ubuntu.com/573306/ i tried sudo chmod +x install.sh ,no change in terminal,how can i know whether it is executed or not
[03:52] <mikeru> Nvidia 270 something wass the versiom
[03:53] <rtdos>  btw, how do i get into grub (or safe mode) so that i can do any necessary repairs?) when i am / was using startup manager to edit grub for me but when i select safe mode it just continues to boot though i do see the repair menu (the booting does not stop at this point but continues on as if i were booting normally)
[03:53] <mickster04> kothaguy_ubuntu: ls -a
[03:53] <opcbo> PCB = print circuit board
[03:54] <ian_> mickster04: i don't know whats wrong with it.
[03:54] <Scunizi> mikeru: that would be it.. check the ppa though.. I think the x-swat one is pretty reliable... also check in System>Preference>Appearance and increase the effects to the middle option.
[03:54] <mickster04> opcbo: not ubuntu related
[03:54] <opcbo> yes
[03:54] <mickster04> ian_: nor do i, but i think your mobo may be damaged
[03:54] <dataworm> I am upgrading 10.04 to 10.10 on a system that use Software Raid1. Witch device do I need to install grub on? sda, sdb, md0?
[03:54] <dataworm> I tried on md0 but it failed
[03:54] <ian_> mickster04:  mobo?
[03:54] <mickster04> ian_: motherboard aka main board
[03:54] <Logan_WP> ian_: motherboard
[03:55] <Scunizi> dataworm: sda as a guess. but you can install on sda and sdb for safety
[03:55] <ian_> ah, thanks.
[03:55] <ian_> unfamiliar with such terms.
[03:55] <ian_> mickster04: one way or another, i think the mobo might be fried.
[03:55] <hypatia> dataworm: you shouldn't need to redo grub manually to upgrade (also, hi!)
[03:55] <mickster04> ian_: yeah, sounds like it, if 3 different lan cards don't work on different slots :/
[03:55] <kothaguy_ubuntu> Mickster84 : i find the .sh file,how to run it
[03:56] <ian_> mickster04: everything else was fine, so i don't know whats wrong.
[03:56] <dataworm> hypatia: the upgrade prompted for it
[03:56] <dataworm> hi hypatia, is there a channel your not on ;)
[03:56] <Scunizi> ian_: unless the mobo has a lan card and the system keeps defaulting to that one instead of picking one of the others you've installed.
[03:56] <dataworm> I just did sda and sdb hopefully it will work
[03:56] <mikeru> Scunizi: But as i already said, it was silly of me to have asked while gparted was still running on the live cd. My bad.
[03:56] <mickster04> kothaguy_ubuntu: sh filename.sh
[03:57] <hypatia> dataworm: i am the all-seeing eye of irc ^_^
[03:57] <ian_> scunizi: it's really old, it shouldn't have a lan card. lemme check BIOS.
[03:57] <opcbo> ejoy here
[03:57] <opcbo> thanks all
[03:57] <rww> eyepatia
[03:58] <hypatia> rww: lol
[03:58] <Logan_WP> opcbo: You're welcome.
[03:58] <kothaguy_ubuntu> mickster04, :Thank you,it started working
[03:59] <mickster04> kov: very good
[03:59] <Logan_WP> ```````````````````````````````````````````````````
[03:59] <Logan_WP> oops
[03:59] <ian_> how could i check which card my mobo is defaulting to?
[04:00] <ian_> i believe the mobo may not be fried.
[04:00] <ian_> through command line, i can't seem to get into bios...
[04:01] <Scunizi> ian_: in network manager you should be able to setup a new connection using eth1 instead of eth0 which is typically the default..
[04:01] <Scunizi> ian_: bios is only accessable on reboot.. not through cli
[04:01] <beachbum_Bob> Help with audio problem on Toshiba, U10.10 ...alsa and adour don't work..what is the name of a forced version? launchpad doesn't work either
[04:01] <mickster04> ian_: if you have tried 3 cards, on differnt hokles, and rebooted each time, and everytime ifconfig hasn't shown and eth#'s. then either all three cards are borken or your mobo is dead
[04:01] <mickster04> ian_: also you can't get into bios from terminal
[04:01] <ian_> scunizi: i'm command-line illiterate. please go on.
[04:01] <ian_> mickster04: i'm rebooting and i can't get into bios.
[04:02] <sacarlson> ian_: I look back and I still don't see the results of your ifconfig
[04:02] <mickster04> ian_: esc or f8?
[04:02] <Scunizi> ian_: like mickster04 says.. did you see multiple ethx listings when you ifconfig on the command line?
[04:02] <ian_> i only saw "lo".
[04:03] <ian_> ifconfig was suspiciousally vacant.
[04:03] <mickster04> ian_: which means sumat mroe is broken
[04:03] <ian_> i can plug my cards into my other pc really quick and check to see if they work.
[04:03] <mickster04> right i'm off bbl
[04:03] <kothaguy_ubuntu> Again i am back,after installing .sh
[04:03] <Scunizi> ian_: do you have one of the "extra" cards installed now? if so type lspci and it should report on all hardware that is in the pci buss.
[04:03] <ian_> mickster04: i have no idea what that is -w-
[04:03] <sacarlson> ian_: what does this mean? (10:23:57 AM) ian_: ifconfig is giving me zeros and a local ip
[04:04] <ian_> sunizi: i only have on card in the server i'm trying to set up.
[04:04] <Scunizi> ian_: and it's not wireless .. right?
[04:04] <ian_> sacarlson: check my most recent paste bin
[04:04] <ian_> scunizi: it's wired.
[04:05] <ian_> scunizi: I can reboot my current computer and try the card on here, but i have a network port on the motherboard and it might default to that.
[04:05] <Scunizi> ian_: if only lo is listed.. hummm.. did you try to set a static ip address on this box?
[04:06] <ian_> scunizi: i'm not sure what that means, and i wouldn't know how to do it.
[04:06] <sacarlson> ian_: sorry maybe if you put your info on one line instead of 50 I might find it
[04:06] <Eolua> hi.
[04:06] <ian_> to make this simpler, couldn't i just put lxde on a flash drive and somehow install it of the server so i can have a gui to work with?
[04:06] <ian_> socarlson, give me a sec.
[04:07] <ian_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/573303/
[04:07] <ian_> ifconfig's results.
[04:07] <kothaguy_ubuntu> i have an gpg error while updating using sudo apt-get update,how to remove those two errors ,http://paste.ubuntu.com/573308/
[04:07] <sacarlson> ian_: no I fond it as I said it just take me longer for you with too many lines,  you should try sudo lshw to see if your net device is seen by the system at all
[04:07] <Scunizi> ian_: that won't fix your problem.. you pretty much have to use cli to fix this.. hang on
[04:08] <dianiu_> when i use chrome to watch video,it shows "shockwave flash crash"
[04:09] <ian_> sacarlson: sudo lshw is more than my screen can see; how can i scroll up?
[04:09] <sacarlson> ian_: sudo lshw >file.txt
[04:09] <dianiu_> anybody has the same problem?
[04:09] <Scunizi> what and where is the file for interfaces?  /etc/interfaces?
[04:09] <sacarlson> ian_: use a flash usb to move it to here
[04:09] <ChogyDan> dianiu_: sudo apt-get remove libvdpau1
[04:10] <Axan> Hello
[04:11] <ian_> sacarlson: i'm not sure how i would do that.
[04:11] <kothaguy_ubuntu> i have an gpg error while updating using sudo apt-get update,how to remove those two errors ,http://paste.ubuntu.com/573308/
[04:11] <sacarlson> ian_: you can also use sudo lshw | less or sudo lshw | grep net
[04:12] <ian_> sacarlson: i'm not sure how i would put lxde on usb and transfer it over.
[04:12] <Scunizi> ian_: /etc/network/interfaces is a file that handles your internet connection and ip address. If you're having issues getting dhcp to assign an ip address to your server then you have to manually configure it. This is what mine looks like http://pastebin.com/Krjgerra
[04:12] <sacarlson> ian_: I thought you problem is with eth0?
[04:12] <ChogyDan> kothaguy_ubuntu: I think you can either ignore it, or add the keys of those repos
[04:13] <kothaguy_ubuntu> ChogyDan, :how to add the keys to the repos
[04:13] <Scunizi> ian_: can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file so we can see it.
[04:13] <Axan> I want to install Ubuntu on a flash card, I know how to, and I already did, but as my card size is only 4G I wonder If it is not a better idea to only put /usr or /home on my flashcard, and other data on my main HDD (pata). I mean, the flashcard will faster than my HDD, so which part of my system root should I use it for ? (up to 4GB)
[04:13] <ChogyDan> dianiu_: please ask your questions in chat
[04:13] <sacarlson> ian_: you can boot a live cd and do it from that if that makes it easier for you
[04:14] <sacarlson> ian_: or a live usb
[04:14] <dianiu_> shall I restart my computer?
[04:14] <Scunizi> sacarlson: I think ian isn't getting an ip address.. no matter what nic card he uses..
[04:15] <ian_> sacarlson: that's not really an option, it's a 20g hard drive.
[04:15] <Scunizi> sacarlson: that's why I suggested pastbinning his interfaces file.
[04:15] <sacarlson> Scunizi: yes as seen in ian_: ifconfig no hardware is seen so with lshw  you can see if the hardware is there without a driver or not seen at all
[04:16] <Scunizi> sacarlson: true..
[04:16] <sacarlson> Scunizi: the interfaces file won't help if no ethX is ever seen
[04:16] <Scunizi> ian_: did you lshw? was the nic card seen?
[04:16] <ian_> scunzi: is it " cat /etc/network/interfaces" cl?
[04:16] <Scunizi> ian_: yes
[04:17] <ian_> bah, pardon my typos in your name, running a vnc to view my main monitor on my ipod while working on the other machine.
[04:17] <ian_> dual input monitor, no other option.
[04:17] <cntb> !grub
[04:17] <Scunizi> ian_: first few characters and hit
[04:17] <Scunizi> TAB
[04:17] <sacarlson> ian_: I sorry what does a 20gb hard drive have to do  with booting a live usb or checking lshw?
[04:18] <Scunizi> ian_: definately check "sudo lshw"
[04:18] <ian_> it's small, i don't think it'll handle another partition.
[04:18] <administrator_> hh
[04:18] <administrator_> ddd
[04:18] <jairoserafim> I just need a file for  wireless conection please
[04:18] <ian_> waitl.
[04:18] <ian_> I got it!
[04:18] <sacarlson> ian_: you can boot from a usb flash that is as small as 1gb
[04:19] <ian_> ifconfig
[04:19] <ian_> my eth0 is up!
[04:19] <sacarlson> ian_: oh it just needed to be rebooted,  that can happen at times
[04:19] <cntb> resized  with to have place for windows7 after winxp partition here on grub2 what to do after win7 messes with grub .Ubotu has the answer
[04:19] <ian_> ifconfig tells me that i have "eth0" and "lo"
[04:19] <jairoserafim> I cannot to use my  wirelless jus  pluggn connetion pleas help me
[04:20] <ian_> actually, i just witched to my last card, that may have done it.
[04:20] <Scunizi> ian_: yea!  now what are you going to do with the server?
[04:20] <ian_> minecraft.
[04:20] <sacarlson> ian_: ok that might be it then
[04:20] <ian_> I'm going to run a server for my self and a few friends.
[04:21] <ian_> Wait, i'm now running " sudo apt-get update" and not getting any results.
[04:21] <Scunizi> ian_: keep in mind that your isp might block the ports it will be using.. forcing a port reconfiguration in the minecraft setup
[04:21] <Scunizi> ian_: run ifconfig and see if you have an address
[04:21] <ian_> i know that, i can deal with it after i connect the server to the internet first.
[04:22] <sacarlson> jairoserafim: is your wireless network encrypted?   did you try iwconfig  to see if your wifi device is seen?
[04:22] <formolQC> is something wrong with this command, I want into quebec3.txt all the line from ftp39350.txt who containt the string '24' :  grep "24" ftp39350.txt > quebec3.txt
[04:22] <ian_> how do i cancel sudo apt-get update if it's connecting and won't stop?
[04:22] <Scunizi> ian_: ctrl c
[04:23] <BlackRat90> Does anyone know a way to access the terminal with out the use of the applications pull down tab?
[04:23] <ian_> Scunizi: tahnks.
[04:23] <ian_> should i pastebin my ifconfig?
[04:23] <Scunizi> BlackRat90: ctrl+alt+F2
[04:23] <Scunizi> ian_: no .. just look for an ip address
[04:23] <jairoserafim> okay sacarlson  ijuste chek this point and restart the machine and its  until default
[04:24] <ian_> <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:24] <ian_> ethat's it.
[04:24] <Scunizi> ian_: ok.. try "ping google.com"
[04:24] <BlackRat90> Scunizi: mmk, is there a file that the terminal is located?
[04:24] <sacarlson> jairoserafim: until default?
[04:25] <sacarlson> jairoserafim: what does iwconfig show?
[04:25] <Scunizi> BlackRat90: what I do in the gui is go to applications>accessories and drag the terminal icon to someplace on the upper screen bar for easy access
[04:25] <jshriver> is MySQL messed up in 10.10?
[04:25] <ian_> ping: unknown host google.com
[04:26] <jshriver> service mysql start or just start mysql wont work after a fresh install, but if I do a mysqld_safe --user=mysql works fine
[04:26] <jairoserafim> Let me check right now
[04:26] <jshriver> I miss init.d script this service crap sucks
[04:26] <sacarlson> ian_: what about  the route command what ip is the gateway?
[04:26] <KucukMubasir> guys I have this warning or whatever: "Readline was unable to be required, if you need completion or history install readline then reinstall the ruby."
[04:26] <ian_> sacarlson: route command?
[04:27] <ian_> i'm confused.
[04:27] <KucukMubasir> what have I done missing?
[04:27] <Scunizi> ian_: so you have an ip address but no connection to the outside world.. does that ip match the router configuration? like is the router <IP_ADDRESS>? like what sacarlson is asking?
[04:27] <sacarlson> ian_: man route
[04:27] <Jordan_U> KucukMubasir: How did you install Ruby?
[04:27] <ian_> yeah, my router is showing that i'm on this.
[04:27] <sacarlson> ian_: when you get the gateway address try ping it, if that works you must have a dns problem
[04:28] <ian_> the dns might be wrong.
[04:28] <rand_u> does anybody know how to enter a multiple line formula in calc?
[04:28] <jairoserafim> shopw me the format the numbers and t numbers
[04:28] <Scunizi> ian_: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:28] <ian_> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:28] <jshriver> cat /etc/resolv.conf  see what it says and trying pinging that ip
[04:28] <KucukMubasir> Jordan_U: first  rvm install ruby-1.8.7 and install ruby-1.9.2-head secondly
[04:28] <ian_> scunizi, that's working.
[04:28] <KucukMubasir> rvm install ruby-1.9.2-head
[04:28] <jairoserafim>  iwanan say format numbers and options
[04:28] <Scunizi> ian_: then it's dns most likely
[04:29] <Axan> Is it possible to change the destination of program installation of aptitude ? (so I can install on a new drive)
[04:29] <KucukMubasir> and I installed readline somewhere between or before them :/
[04:29] <jairoserafim> i need to go out thanks
[04:29] <Jordan_U> KucukMubasir: I know that ruby has its own way of installing things, but have you tried just installing what you need from the repositories?
[04:29] <Scunizi> ian_: you could "sudo ifdown".. then "sudo ifup" to bring the interface down then back up agian and see if it catches the dns the router is using.
[04:29] <sacarlson> ian_: try sudo dhclient eth0
[04:30] <KucukMubasir> Jordan_U: I think so, I was following guidelines
[04:30] <ian_> Scunizi: My "dns-nameserver" is <IP_ADDRESS>. Could that be wrong? under "cat /etc/network/interfaces
[04:31] <sacarlson> ian_: that normaly works for most routers,  you could try dig @<IP_ADDRESS> yaho.com  and see if that works better
[04:31] <ian_> sudo ifdown/up tells me "ifup: Use --help for help."
[04:31] <biffhero> Has anyone heard of ubuntu kernel (from the 10.10 installer) causing a blade to segfault?  I do an install to a hard drive on my RLX blade, and it won't boot completely.  I have no console, so can't see the messages.  I am in a reboot loop, the last thing I see is the final RLX bios screen, then then the next thing I see is the RLX bios memory counter.
[04:32] <Axan> Re
[04:32] <ian_> okay...
[04:32] <Jordan_U> KucukMubasir: Installing via rvm means that you *didn't* use the package manager / apt repositories
[04:32] <ian_> okay, the dig @yaho is giving me ip adresses.
[04:32] <ian_> yahoo*
[04:33] <KucukMubasir> which means I did something missing?
[04:33] <Axan> I want to devide my system between a PATA HDD and a FlashCard, I wonder which part of my system to put on the flashcard (only 4GB) ? (I expect my system to be more efficient as Flashcard is faster than HDD)
[04:33] <markg> ian_: sorry.. my connection to my server just froze for some reason.
[04:33] <sacarlson> biffhero: I"m not sure what a blade is maybe the kernel is the wrong archatechture?
[04:35] <Jordan_U> KucukMubasir: Try asking in #ruby.
[04:35] <KucukMubasir> thanks Jordan_U
[04:35] <Jordan_U> KucukMubasir: You're welcome.
[04:36] <sacarlson> Axan: I guess flashcard would be good for system files like /usr /boot  to make it bring up apps faster and boot quicker but bad for like swap since they have a limited write cycle life
[04:36] <izinucs> ian_: izinucs = Scunizi backwards
[04:36] <ian_> Well, thank you everyone, my connection is officially established.
[04:36] <izinucs> ian_: what was the solution?
[04:36] <izinucs> I missed it
[04:36] <ian_> I'm not sure how, but i just ran sudo apt-get update and it worked.
[04:37] <izinucs> ian_: great.. now I gotta figure out why my ssh connection to my server just went into oblivion :)
[04:37] <Axan> sacarlson, is /bin also a good choice ?
[04:37] <ian_> I think the machine was, pardon my lack of terminology knowledge, "shaking hands" with my router.
[04:37] <ian_> but so far, so good.
[04:37] <ian_> Now, step two.
[04:38] <sacarlson> Axan: ya /bin /lib also good
[04:38] <c0dege3k> hello. im new to ubuntu and have a question. trying to sync a github repo. but the repo command "isn't found". any help?
[04:38] <ian_> I have OpenSSH on, some people on a minecraft server IRC told me earlier i might need it.
[04:38] <izinucs> ian_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:39] <ian_> I would like to set up the minecraft server on it, but i haven't the slightest clue.
[04:39] <sacarlson> Axan: /sbin also good,   bad would also be /var since it has the log files and things that change a lot
[04:40] <arlander> I dont want any ports to be open on my laptop, hence need for removing avahi-daemon, just wanted to know if removing avahi-daemon is gonna severe;y affect my system
[04:40] <izinucs> no
[04:41] <Axan> sacarlson, ok, so if I want to put /sbin, /bin, /usr on my flashcard and everyting else on my HDD, how should I proceed ? Must I create a partition for each mount point on the flash card ? (/bin, /sbin, /usr) ?
[04:41] <sacarlson> Axan: you forgot /lib also should be on your flash
[04:42] <Jordan_U> c0dege3k: git pull? I don't quite understand the question.
[04:42] <brotatos> Hi.
[04:42] <brotatos> I need help with audio.
[04:42] <brotatos> I don't have any sound in Crunchbang 10. But I do hear beeps when I press enter.
[04:42] <Starminn> !crunchbang | brotatos
[04:43] <ian_> bleh...
[04:43] <jaraws> Hi, I've just installed Ubuntu on two separate computers using the same Shipit disc and updated the first.  If I want to avoid redownloading all the updates, can I just manually transplant the contents of the updated machine's /var/cache/apt/archives into that path on the second one with an external HDD, then run update-manager as usual on the second one?
[04:43] <ian_> upgrade takes forever...
[04:43] <brotatos> Awwww.
[04:43] <ian_> oh, i see ufupdown being replaced. hooray.
[04:43] <izinucs> ian_: lol.. faster than a windows machine.. you might get a new kernel which will require a reboot
[04:43] <sacarlson> Axan: on my system I would put /bin /boot /lib /lib64 /sbin /usr /sbin  on the flash drive
[04:44] <arand> jaraws: I reckon you should be able to yes.
[04:44] <sacarlson> Axan: opps /sbin only need to be there one time
[04:44] <Axan> "one time" ?
[04:44] <ian_> izinucs: would you mind telling me which does what? of sudo apt-get: update, upgrade, dist-upgrade?
[04:44] <ndxtg> jaraws: next time just do one then use partimage to clone the hdd
[04:45] <sacarlson> Axan: yes typo
[04:45] <biffhero> sacarlson: yeah, that's what I thought.  uname -a on another one shows me that I have an i686 architechture installed.  But to be sure, I am downloading the 386 server iso right now.  These have transmeta CPUs on them.
[04:45] <Axan> I don't understand ?
[04:45] <izinucs> ian_: update simply updates the database of available packages.. upgrade does just that.. and dist-upgrade looks for newer versions of programs/packages
[04:45] <sacarlson> biffhero: it might need the arm build
[04:46] <jaraws> arand: okay, all the transplanted deb  files show in the destination comp's /var/cache/apt/archives with an "X" icon in nautilus.  is that a problem, and does it reflect a permissions issue?
[04:46] <ian_> izinucs: thanks. Just wanted to know out of curiosity.
[04:46] <Axan> sacarlson, and, how did you organise your flash card partition table ? Did you make a partition for each mount point ?
[04:46] <jaraws> do i need to run a chown or soemthing if the admin username on the first machine is different?
[04:46] <sacarlson> Axan: I don't have a flash card, why you want to give me one?
[04:46] <bastidrazor> jaraws: the filed to be owned by root
[04:46] <biffhero> sacarlson: hrmm…  here's "uname -a" from another one.  "Linux fork 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Mon Mar 26 17:17:36 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux"
[04:46] <ian_> once my window XP slows down, i hope to put ubuntu on it...
[04:46] <Axan> sacarlson, well, a flash drive
[04:47] <izinucs> ian_: why wait?
[04:47] <ian_> is there a benefit to installing an LTS rather than 10,10?
[04:47] <jaraws> bastidrazor: so what do the x signs mean then?
[04:47] <sacarlson> biffhero: what is that?  one that is working?
[04:47] <bastidrazor> jaraws: that the user viewing them does not have proper permissions.
[04:47] <izinucs> ian_: lts is supported for 3 years.. server for 5.. 10.10 18 months
[04:47] <arand> !aptproxy | jaraws this might also be of interest if you end up wanting this often
[04:47] <ian_> izinucs: my dadwould probably kill me, he thinks he's a computer genius. and why is the support? why would you rather have it?
[04:48] <biffhero> sacarlson: yessir, this one is working fine.
[04:48] <biffhero> That's why I think I am grasping at straws to go with the 386.
[04:48] <jaraws> bastidrazor: what does that mean? will the improper permissions cause me problems? how do i rectify them? why don't they show with that on the original machine if they're simply owned by "root"?
[04:49] <poobird> hi
[04:49] <ian_> izinucs: it's not like i don't want to, it's simply not an option since my dad is more knowledgable as far as hardware goes, and he's fluent in dos, so i would probably die if i dared partition the hard drive.
[04:49] <sacarlson> biffhero: then it should work fine with an i386 build  or 32bit as we call them
[04:49] <izinucs> ian_: why is the support ?? .. I've found that everything I need is in linux/ubuntu and easier to get. cheaper too.. with the exception of Internet Explorer which I need for work most of the time.
[04:49] <biffhero> sacarlson:  agreed.
[04:49] <sqwertle> I'm trying to get a linksys wireless card (WUSB54GSv2) setup on 10.04 and am running into some troubles. ndiswrapper -l shows "wusb54gsv2 : driver installed" and lsusb shows "Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1737:0075 Linksys" but it does not seem to be working. iwconfig shows no wireless extensions and I'm not sure what to do at this point.
[04:49] <administrator_> hhh
[04:49] <poobird> how can i find out what service is controlling my 21 port?
[04:50] <sacarlson> biffhero: it might have limited mem so maybe needs a custom build without any uneeded stuf
[04:50] <arand> jaraws: Normally the files in there are 644 and owned by root, seems like the files you copied turned out as 640, it shouldn't matter in practice i reckon since you need to be root to install anyways
[04:50] <ChogyDan> sqwertle: do you have to modprob ndiswrapper?
[04:50] <bastidrazor> jaraws: if root owns them and they are rw by root then you're fine.  its the 'other' permissions that would determine that.. it is not an issue
[04:50] <izinucs> ian_: put the live cd on a usb stick and plug it in the back of his computer.. then set it to boot to the usb stick.. that would be fun on april 1st ..:)
[04:50] <poobird> how can i find out what service is controlling my 21 port?
[04:50] <biffhero> sacarlson: would that limited memory cause the kernel to not boot?  that's a good idea.  These have 256M RAM.
[04:50] <biffhero> poobird: netstat -ln | grep -i 21
[04:50] <bastidrazor> jaraws: "that" being the reason you have an X on them
[04:50] <jaraws> bastidrazor: ah, makes sense. thank you.
[04:50] <poobird> ty
[04:50] <c0dege3k> Jordan_U: in the file under github.com/r2doesinc/android it says to use the repo command
[04:51] <sacarlson> biffhero: of course it would cause a problem,  you need about 512meg to run ubuntu these days
[04:51] <sqwertle> ChogyDan: "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-generic/kernel/ubuntu/ndiswraper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"
[04:51] <Axan> sacarlson, so, did you create a partition on your flash drive for each mount point ?
[04:51] <ChogyDan> sqwertle: try with sudo
[04:51] <bastidrazor> jaraws: you're welcome
[04:51] <arand> jaraws: I guess the default for all new files is set as such, and got applied when you copied them onto the system.
[04:51] <c0dege3k> but it says it doesn't exist
[04:51] <biffhero> sacarlson:  holy cats.  That's amazing.  How can I set it to use less?
[04:51] <sqwertle> ChogyDan: no output at all
[04:51] <jaraws> arand: I see.
[04:52] <sacarlson> Axan: I think you didn't get it i DON"T HAVE a flash drive
[04:52] <ian_> izinucs: he would know immediatly. that only works on technologicaly-illiterate people. XD
[04:52] <jaraws> How does one go about changing the main interface language to Hindi?
[04:52] <ian_> i'm tempted to do it to my friends.
[04:52] <sacarlson> biffhero: strip out all uneeded modules
[04:52] <Jordan_U> c0dege3k: The earlier instructions tell you how to get the "repo" script.
[04:53] <izinucs> ian_: still.. it'd give him a chance to give it a try  .. he might be suprised..
[04:53] <ChogyDan> sqwertle: shrug, did it work?
[04:53] <ian_> izinucs: how does the installation onto a usb stick differ from installation on a cd? not actual installation, but putting the .iso image on the usb?
[04:53] <biffhero> sacarlson:  ahh, thanks.  I will look into making a smaller setup.
[04:53] <Axan> sacarlson, oh, sorry you said "I would" ^^
[04:53] <sqwertle> ChogyDan: nope, its been doing that, nothings changed
[04:53] <izinucs> ian_: once it's there.. nothing other than it's a bit faster
[04:53] <sacarlson> Axan: yes I would if I had one do it like ^^^^
[04:54] <Jordan_U> c0dege3k: If you didn't previously have a ~/bin directory you'll need to create it and log out and back in again (or run "bash -l") to have it added to your $PATH automatically.
[04:54] <ChogyDan> sqwertle: did you use the windows xp driver?
[04:54] <c0dege3k> Jordan_U: ok. thanks
[04:54] <ian_> izinucs: but only on a usb 2.0 port, rather than a 1.1, right?
[04:54] <Jordan_U> c0dege3k: You're welcome.
[04:54] <izinucs> ian_: either..
[04:54] <sacarlson> Axan: and as your being so generous I thought you said you were going to donate one to me
[04:54] <Bogus8> vimpulse: you around?
[04:55] <Bogus8> oops
[04:55] <ian_> izinucs: isn't it something like 12 mbps vs 480 mbps?
[04:55] <sqwertle> ChodyDan: I'm not 100% sure, I got the drivers from a tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225206