[00:00] <misreckoning> kroq-gar78: yes guys, I'm talking with you from Ubuntu which runs on one of those two disks
[00:00] <misreckoning> and I want both of them dead
[00:00] <ozzloy> halp!  i have a running ubuntu classic session on ctrl+alt+f7 right now that won't display anything other than the mouse right now
[00:00] <misreckoning> before I send the PC to RMA
[00:00] <a_failure> nesoi: can you plug in directly?
[00:00] <astraljava> misreckoning: From `shred --help`, "Overwrite the specified FILE(s) repeatedly, in order to make it harder
[00:00] <vlt> misreckoning: You will be able to shred. No matter if it's mounted or not.
[00:00] <astraljava> sorry
[00:01] <ozzloy> i left the computer, came back after a while, now i can only get a terminal in ctrl+alt+f1
[00:01] <kroq-gar78> vlt: won't some files be locked?
[00:01] <ozzloy> bluetooth mouse still works
[00:01] <misreckoning> vlt: I believe so, just, I hope it won't make any kernel panics etc
[00:01] <ozzloy> usb keyboard still works
[00:01] <ASrock> Is there a way I can have my windows show up on the panel with just the icons, no text, like Windows 7? Thats about the only thing I really like about windows lol
[00:01] <ozzloy> something is up with X
[00:01] <KongTA> hello for someone new to ubuntu am i better to use the long term support version or the bleeding edge version it is for an msi laptop CR640
[00:01] <ozzloy> how do i trouble shoot this?
[00:01] <misreckoning> kroq-gar78: it should work on lower level than file system lock mechanism
[00:01] <kroq-gar78> ASrock: look at docky.
[00:01] <vlt> kroq-gar78: shred on the block device doesn't care for anything that happens in the file system ;-)
[00:02] <kroq-gar78> vlt: didn't know that :)
[00:02] <misreckoning> vlt: we'll see
[00:02] <ASrock> kroq-gar78 theres no way I can do it just using the stock panels?
[00:02] <a_failure> nesoi: if you have wireless tools the way to go about setting it up would be to sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid YourNetwork key s:YourPassword and then sudo dhclient wlan0
[00:02] <misreckoning> damn, I'm so afraid I forgot to backup something...
[00:02] <nesoi> a_failure, it claimes that network manager is installed
[00:03] <nesoi> it shows a little icon like on macos on the top right of the screen as if you could click on that and see a list of available ssids
[00:03] <kroq-gar78> ASrock: not too sure... I'm pretty sure you can't, but not COMPLETELY sure...
[00:03] <jAguAr_> a_failure, would that work with my wireless internet issue also?
[00:03] <a_failure> nesoi: your network settings are in /etc/network/interfaces
[00:03] <KongTA>  hello for someone new to ubuntu am i better to use the long term support version or the bleeding edge version it is for an msi laptop CR640
[00:03] <ASrock> kroq-gar78: well I'm installing docky now... ill check it out... thanks again
[00:03] <vlt> misreckoning: The only thing you should know: As long as the kernel thinks it controls the file system and (if any) swap space -- maybe you could run "swapoff -a" -- it will continue to write. So parts of files with more or less sensitive content could be written to parts of the disk that just has been shred.
[00:04] <ozzloy> just checking, can anyone see this stuff i'm typing right now?
[00:04] <a_failure> jAguAr_: what issue
[00:04] <KongTA> No I cant ozzloy
[00:04] <kroq-gar78> ozzloy:yes
[00:04] <ryan__> I can't alt-tab out of a fullscreen application, anyone know why?
[00:04] <jAguAr_> i can connect to the net thru a wired internet connection, but not a wireless one
[00:04] <kroq-gar78> ozzloy: as in i can see the stuff you just entered
[00:04] <ozzloy> KongTA, heh, thanks
[00:04] <ozzloy> kroq-gar78, thanks
[00:05] <KongTA>  hello for someone new to ubuntu am i better to use the long term support version or the bleeding edge version it is for an msi laptop CR640
[00:05] <a_failure> ryan__: no i don't but if you alt+space you should be able to control the window
[00:05] <astraljava> KongTA: Basically, LTS releases are safer for new users. The ones between LTS releases _might_ have some issues occasionally. If you want to play safe, and don't care for the latest and greatest, then I'd suggest an LTS release for you.
[00:05] <nesoi> a_failure, apt-get reports that it's already at tle latest version
[00:05] <misreckoning> vlt: thanks, that's good to know!
[00:05] <Corey> KongTA: I prefer stability over features.  Up to you though.
[00:05] <engammalsko> Hi installed two windows 7 by mistake, I deleted the first one, but in the windows boot menu it still shows up two windows 7, with the first installed that is not working. Anyone know if there is a file I can edit or delete? Or should I ask in #windows instead?
[00:05] <vlt> misreckoning: To absolutely prevent this you could remount everything in ro mode. Try pressing Sys-Rq+u.
[00:05] <nesoi> so how do I see if the wireless is configured right? there is supposed to be a widget which shows the available ssids, but I don't find it
[00:06] <jAguAr_> engammalsko, that's in the grub.menu (i think)
[00:06] <misreckoning> vlt: wow, what's that?
[00:06] <misreckoning> the shortcut?
[00:06] <kroq-gar78> misreckoning: yes that's the hotkey/shortcuy
[00:06] <vlt> misreckoning: SysRq+u is short for "umount everything and remount in ro mode"
[00:07] <misreckoning> SysRq!?
[00:07] <vlt> misreckoning: Guess what SysRq+o means ;-)
[00:07] <kroq-gar78> it should be on the top-right of your keyboard
[00:07] <KongTA> That is what i figured but isnt it silly to use the long term version 10.04 learn in then once you have upgraded in the future you will have to re learn it as the new version will use Unity?
[00:07] <rww> misreckoning: SysRq is usually the PrintScreen key
[00:07] <ozzloy> kroq-gar78, do you know how to troubleshoot this scenario: dual monitor, left machine idle so screen blanked, now displays only the mouse moving around on black background, vt1 works (how i'm in here), vt7 displayed the window contents sans dressing after switching back to vt7 but flickered, went back to vt1, back to vt7 which now just shows black with cursor moving around
[00:07] <misreckoning> ah -.-
[00:07] <VCoolio> !sysrq | misreckoning
[00:07] <engammalsko> jAguAr_: No, first is the grub menu, where I can choose windows7 or ubuntu 11, if I choose windows7 I have a second menu with 2 windows7. It's the second menu I wanna edit. It has nothing to do with Linux, but maybe I could ask here since I can edit and show all windows file in ubuntu (which I can't in windows I think)
[00:07] <rww> misreckoning: a lot of keyboards don't label that it's SysRq since Windows doesn't use it
[00:07] <misreckoning> ^^
[00:07] <engammalsko> I have system reserved > Boot folder, maybe I could change something there?
[00:07] <misreckoning> thanks this is totally new for me :D
[00:08] <a_failure> nesoi: you'll have to set your /etc/network/interfaces to handle dhcp for the device you wish to use and be sure /etc/resolv.conf has your nameservers in it.. if you can tell iwconfig what the parameters are--essid and encrypted password etc. then you can have linux set the resolv.conf for you just by issuing sudo dhclient wlan0
[00:08] <w30> engammalsko, ubuntu's grub will think your windows recovery partition is a windows install
[00:08] <w30> engammalsko, so check that out
[00:08] <engammalsko> w30: I'm not talking about grub!
[00:08] <kroq-gar78> ozzloy: no sorry, don't know anything about monitors really. you could always try asking on the forums (ubuntuforums.org) if nobody here knows the answer
[00:08] <vlt> misreckoning, rww: Usually some modifyer key (like AltGr) and PrtScrn.
[00:08] <nesoi> a_failure, this 11.4 was a super automatic setup. I can't believe that after that it makes you edit config files
[00:09] <engammalsko> w30: The menu was there before I even installed ubuntu. It's alot like grub but for windows.
[00:09] <ozzloy> kroq-gar78, kk
[00:09] <a_failure> nesoi: anything you're doing in a graphical mode is editing config files behind your back
[00:09] <vlt> rww: I've never seen any w/o SysRq label ...
[00:09] <cyberwave> yoyo
[00:09] <ozzloy> ps shows all the programs still running
[00:09] <cyberwave> can anybody hear me?
[00:09] <ozzloy> which is cool
[00:09] <ozzloy> cyberwave, yes, i can!
[00:10] <cyberwave> believe it or not, but i think i have a virus on my ubuntu machine
[00:10] <w30> engammalsko, is grub sending you to a windows bootloader?
[00:10] <kroq-gar78> cyberwave: i can't hear you, but i can see ur messages.
[00:10] <cyberwave> it's just a standard issue dell desktop brought back to life.   You're right. Thanks and bye.
[00:11] <astraljava> nesoi: You're not seeing anything even _remotely_ like this? http://www.techotopia.com/images/d/de/Ubuntu_10.10_networkmanager_menu.jpg
[00:11] <nesoi> where would I see that URL?
[00:11] <Electron> Every freakin time my screensaver comes on i lose my wi-fi connection, WTH
[00:11] <astraljava> engammalsko: I know. They should learn from linux/ubuntu/whatever. :)
[00:12] <nesoi> oh, no
[00:12] <nesoi> no ssids show
[00:12] <a_failure> nesoi: also check that the light is on, if not use ifconfig <device> up
[00:12] <w30> engammalsko, my guess you need to edit grub to go to your actual windows install instead of the windows bootloader
[00:12] <engammalsko> astraljava: Haha yeah ^^ But I'm happy that I've finally got an game slave :D
[00:12] <nesoi> I don't know what the device is
[00:13] <ozzloy> nesoi, probably wlan0  but ifconfig will list devices on your system
[00:13] <engammalsko> w30: Well that could work, but I also think that grub would take me directly to windows instead of bootloader if there only was one windows.
[00:13] <nesoi> what light? under wireless connections in network connections, there isn't one
[00:13] <engammalsko> w30: I don't know anything about grub, so if it's pretty easy and you can help me then just tell me :)
[00:13] <a_failure> nesoi: light on your laptop? idk what you've got but the device is probably wlan0
[00:14] <w30> engammalsko, i donno
[00:14] <astraljava> nesoi: a_failure meant some sort of light in the laptop itself, indicating the wireless adapter is active.
[00:14] <engammalsko> w30: That's sucks.
[00:14] <nesoi> I don't know of such a light
[00:14] <jooost> Hey there! I've got a question. I've ordered a cheap chinese-make remote control over the internet. My remote control works great with Ubuntu applications like Banshee, being able to play, pause and adjust system volume. However, as soon as I start XBMC, play a movie in VLC or have any flash playing in the webbrowser, the little red light on the IR receiver blinks wildly and keeps blinking, and the signals of my remote almost never s
[00:14] <jooost> Does anyone know if this is a common problem with IR remotes?
[00:14] <astraljava> nesoi: Can you access a terminal on that machine? If so, then could you pastebin the output of `lspci | grep -i net`, please?
[00:15] <lighta> engammalsko, may you ask your grub question again plz ?
[00:15] <martin_> español?
[00:15] <a_failure> nesoi: lots of laptops have a switch for turning the wirless card on or off with a light
[00:15] <astraljava> !es | martin_
[00:16] <w30> engammalsko, I don't know enough but you need to gain an understanding of the grub names for drives like HD,0 etc.
[00:16] <Python> hi what;s bzr ?
[00:16] <engammalsko> If think I can solve my problem in windows see you : )
[00:16] <astraljava> !bzr | Python
[00:16] <nesoi> oops there was a switch, I never heard of such a thing, having used macs for a long time
[00:17] <nesoi> now everything works
[00:17] <astraljava> nesoi: Good to hear!
[00:17] <Electron> I guess no one has a clue why you would lose your wi-fi connection upon the activation of a screensaver
[00:17] <nesoi> jeez... sorry for being dum
[00:17] <a_failure> nesoi: ha ha, sometimes it's just so easy
[00:17] <Electron> dont make it any sense to me
[00:17] <Python> how can i bring a bot at a channel ?
[00:18] <a_failure> Python: eggdrop?
[00:18] <bazhang> Python, get the channel owners permission
[00:18] <bazhang> Python, not really an issue in #botwar though
[00:18] <a_failure> bazhang: ha ha
[00:19] <Python> after?
[00:19] <hakintheblock> @a_failure who are you talking to?
[00:20] <rcmaehl> Okay would 'mv ./*/*/*/*/* ./' move all files within the current directory's subdirectories into the current directory?
[00:20] <hakintheblock> Hi guys, I'm having a problem with ubuntu in VMWare.
[00:21] <kroq-gar78> rcmaehl: do you want to keep the directory structure or no?
[00:21] <rcmaehl> kroq-gar78: no
[00:22] <hakintheblock> Hello?
[00:22] <astraljava> !ask | hakintheblock
[00:22] <kroq-gar78> rcmaehl: here's what you could try: make a copy of some of your stuff (junk maybe) and try it there
[00:23] <rcmaehl> kroq-gar78: it keeps the directory structure but I don't know how to remove the directory structure
[00:23] <hakintheblock> OK, I'm having a problem with ubuntu in VMWare. EWverything works except for 3D opengl graphics.
[00:24] <h1gh> rcmaehl: find . -type f -exec mv "{}" . \;
[00:25] <rcmaehl> h1gh: so execute that after my command/
[00:25] <h1gh> rcmaehl: you would "cd" to your folder and run that and it puts all of the nested files on the current (top) folder
[00:26] <newlinux> hi all
[00:26] <rcmaehl> h1gh: wouldn't that move the current directories files as well?
[00:26] <hakintheblock> @newlinux Hi
[00:27] <kroq-gar78> rcmaehl: yes it would, just tried it
[00:27] <newlinux> newb here, ask questions in channel?
[00:27] <h1gh> rcmaehl: no, since it has -f
[00:27] <kroq-gar78> h1gh: it did for me :/
[00:27] <derek_> HI
[00:27] <h1gh> rcmaehl: um, well the current directory files would give an error and not move
[00:28] <rcmaehl> h1gh: I don't want errors is there any additional parameters I could add?
[00:28] <h1gh> rcmaehl: "mv: ./a and ./a are identical"
[00:29] <newlinux> just used wubi installation, is there a way to access the other files on my hard drive, that I'm used to seeing for windows?
[00:29] <rcmaehl> h1gh: do I need the semicolon/
[00:29] <OoTLink> Is anyone here unfortunate enough to use an Alps Electric touchpad?
[00:29] <h1gh> rcmaehl: yes
[00:29] <rww> newlinux: they should be under /host, I believe
[00:29] <h1gh> rcmaehl: Working on solution to error msg...
[00:30] <twoten> hi, I'm in natty and I want to reconfig my grub so that I see the boot up messages scrolling up the screen, how do I do that?
[00:30] <rcmaehl> h1gh: -mindepth
[00:30] <newlinux> great thanks rww
[00:30] <h1gh> rcmaehl: yes -mindepth 2 confirmed
[00:30] <kroq-gar78> rcmaehl: what's that do? only lets it go into 'x' amount of directorires?
[00:31] <kroq-gar78> *i mean minimum 'x' dirs
[00:32] <rcmaehl> yep
[00:32] <newlinux> using linux for the first time, can I assume that if I was able to get wubi to work on my system that  a fresh install from disk on a wiped drive will have all the drivers necessary to get me at least to the internet?
[00:33] <kroq-gar78> rcmaehl and h1gh: thanks im sure that command will be useful sometime in the future :)
[00:33] <h1gh> kroq-gar78: find command is awesome, so much fun
[00:33] <kroq-gar78> kroq-gar78: seems like most complex command in linux to me :P
[00:33] <rcmaehl> kroq-gar78 and h1gh asked in #linux too, they said 'find . -mindepth 2 -type f -exec mv -it . {} +' b/c it doesn't fork mv each time
[00:34] <h1gh> rcmaehl: neat trick!  did not know that one...
[00:34] <rcmaehl> h1gh: neither did I
[00:34] <newlinux> anyone help a complete noob? :/
[00:35] <kroq-gar78> newlinux: what the problem/question?
[00:35] <newlinux> using linux for the first time, can I assume that if I was able to get wubi to work on my system that  a fresh install from disk on a wiped drive will have all the drivers necessary to get me at least to the internet?
[00:36] <tofaffy> newlinux: If everything worked out of the box in Wubi, I would assume that things would work fine on a fresh install.
[00:36] <kroq-gar78> newlinux: i would say so, but to make sure, wait to get some more responses (im no expert)
[00:36] <newlinux> ok, I think all I need to do is download the disk image for Ubuntu onto a CD, wipe my drive, and boot from the CD to install?
[00:36] <kroq-gar78> newlinux: and you can ask on the forums: I think even MORE people there than here
[00:36] <extraclassic> newlinux: there's a better chance for wireless to be screwed up, but wired has worked for me every time
[00:36] <h1gh> newlinux: boot as live from CD/DVD and test your box for support that way
[00:37] <newlinux> to boot as live, just burn a CD with the ubuntu install?
[00:38] <kroq-gar78> newlinux: yes, but to make sure everything (hopefully) works just as well as it did with wubi, make sure to burn same version as the one youre using right now
[00:38] <newlinux> yeah its the latest stable version
[00:38] <rcmaehl> newlinux: 11.04?
[00:38] <newlinux> I think so
[00:39] <kroq-gar78> newlinux: do you have a bottom panel?
[00:39] <newlinux> so when the live CD boots, it will ask me if I want to install on my system OR run the environment to make sure it will work?
[00:39] <kroq-gar78> newlinux: yes
[00:39] <newlinux> wow cool
[00:40] <newlinux> not sure what bottom panel, I have open programs at the bottom
[00:40] <kroq-gar78> newlinux: go to system (top panel) -> about ubuntu to see what version u hav
[00:40] <newlinux> yeah did that, it is 11.04
[00:41] <joshlegs> question: how come this message pops up when i try to install bluegriffon web editor? There is no application installed for executable files
[00:41] <kroq-gar78> newlinux: k, so download the 11.04 iso (if you havnt already) and burn, then TRY and THEN install
[00:41] <newlinux> thanks kroq and everyone else
[00:41] <joshlegs> don't know how to open executable files ... or rather, i've never received that message before
[00:41] <kroq-gar78> newlinux: np
[00:42] <rcmaehl> kroq-gar78: I made a shell script for the command. want it?
[00:42] <kroq-gar78> rcmaehl: sure!
[00:42] <rcmaehl> http://pastebin.com/6kWAAKvN
[00:42] <rcmaehl> kroq-gar78: ^
[00:42] <joshlegs> can someone tell me why i get this message when trying to install a download? There is no application installed for executable files
[00:43] <Andy80> hi all
[00:43] <rcmaehl> O_O
[00:43] <kroq-gar78> rcmaehl: thanks dude :D
[00:44] <xangua> joshlegs: and th3 m3ssag3 is¿...
[00:44] <joshlegs> xangua it's this: There is no application installed for executable files
[00:44] <xangua> joshlegs: a windows app¿¿
[00:44] <joshlegs> with this message in bold at the top of the popup: Could not display "/home/josh/Downloads/BlueGriffon-1.1.1-Linux-x86_64-Install".
[00:44] <joshlegs> no it's for linux
[00:44] <joshlegs> it's bluegriffon web editor :S
[00:45] <zabomber> interesting
[00:45] <Andy80> I've a desktop pc with this configuration: / on a disk and /home on 2 disks configured with software RAID1. If I want to reinstall Ubuntu on / keeping my data on /home, is it possible to use the normal Desktop installer or do I need the alternate installer? Is it possible to just say (during installation) "these two disk are in RAID1, DON'T FORMAT them" ?
[00:45] <zabomber> exit
[00:45] <zabomber> quit
[00:45] <zabomber> !
[00:45] <zabomber> mmm...
[00:45] <chaddy>  /quit
[00:48] <a_failure> Andy80: i've reinstalled ubuntu on / using one partition and it left my home directory completely alone
[00:48] <zzzzzzSergio666> exit
[00:48] <zzzzzzSergio666> quit
[00:49] <zabomber> screen -d
[00:49] <zabomber> any idea how to quit IRC via screen irissi?
[00:49] <jpbouza> HI! I've downloaded the rt kernel <IP_ADDRESS> and I can't build the nvidia drivers
[00:49] <jpbouza> I get the include/generated/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing error
[00:49] <a_failure> Andy80: i think inside the install cd it's an option such as use existing--for me it detected that i had linux all ready and this was the default choice
[00:50] <Andy80> a_failure: I know that usually /home can be preserved, but please keep in mind my configuration: my /home is in 2 disks that are in RAID1. Where this raid is configured/defined? Is it automatically recognized during installation?
[00:51] <a_failure> Andy80: during the install i would just check to see that they have the proper label
[00:51] <joshlegs> oh i think i figured out how to do it. .. nevermind
[00:51] <joshlegs> i'll try again
[00:52] <a_failure> Andy80: on another not if you do format something reset the boot sector and repair the filesystem with testdisk
[00:52] <Andy80> a_failure: using the desktop installer (of course choosing manual disk setup) or using alternate install cd?
[00:54] <a_failure> Andy80: i've never used desktop installer--i imagine it launches partmon just like every other install cd and it should pop up and say something along the lines of use existing partition table
[00:54] <Andy80> a_failure: what do you use usually?
[00:54] <jansporter> ?<
[00:55] <a_failure> Andy80: i use alternate to install the base syste, boot manager and package manager
[00:55] <jansporter> s_kont_o
[00:55] <Andy80> ok
[00:55] <jansporter> ping ride_ini
[00:56] <jansporter> client recover<file back
[00:56] <Netto> is there an ubuntu equivalent to "safe mode boot"? im stucked at boot and dont know what is happening
[00:57] <GhostFreeman> pizza
[00:57] <a_failure> Netto: can you get into sh
[00:57] <GhostFreeman> whoops
[00:58] <jansporter> ....screen first boot
[00:58] <jansporter> .cache<>aaaaa1q
[00:59] <duvel> Dude. Ubuntu is the greatest OS.
[00:59] <duvel> I never have to use Windows again thanks to VirtualBox running like a champion, I can sync my iPhone in VirtualBox!!!! Do you have any idea how exciting this is?!
[01:00] <jansporter_> ini./
[01:00] <jansporter_> freaky ghost
[01:00] <Andy80> duvel: wel...
[01:01] <xangua> duvel: you just said you us3 windows...
[01:01] <bazhang> jansporter_, did you have an ubuntu support question
[01:01] <Andy80> duvel: you're still using Windows inside virtual box :P
[01:01] <jansporter_> yes
[01:01] <duvel> NO NO
[01:01] <duvel> You don't understand.
[01:01] <joshlegs> grrrrr i cant install this program :( :S
[01:01] <jansporter_> not only one :)
[01:01] <duvel> I don't have to have Windows hogging a partition
[01:01] <jansporter_> bazhang ?
[01:02] <bazhang> jansporter_, then ask
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[01:05] <joshlegs> xangua thats what it looks like http://picpaste.com/errorencoding-gNzSk1Uh.png
[01:06] <Andy80> again -.-
[01:06] <Andy80> please don't un-ban them so fast... leave those ip banned for some hours
[01:07] <rewt> only the random nicks are banned :/
[01:07] <KindOne> lol
[01:07] <fsunoles157> spammer eh?
[01:07] <jansporter_> ubuntu?x
[01:07] <Corey> jansporter_: Say what?
[01:07] <bazhang> jansporter_, please stop
[01:07] <KindOne> where is idoru when you need it...
[01:07] <a_failure> that was actually kind of impressive
[01:07] <joulez> hello, what version of gnome does the latest ubuntu release have?
[01:07] <joshlegs> xangua how do you compile the source .. ?
[01:07] <bazhang> joulez, 2.32
[01:07] <jansporter_> ____________--__––_<
[01:08] <xangua> !compile | joshlegs
[01:08] <Corey> jansporter_: That's enough.
[01:08] <Netto> im stucked at the ubuntu boot screen, with "ubuntu" and the 5 dots below it :\, how do i get to "safe mode" ?
[01:08] <joulez> bazhang: thanks.
[01:08] <sebsebseb> joulez: 2.32.1
[01:08] <duvel> Why would anyone want to spam #ubuntu ?
[01:08] <joulez> can you get gnome 3 yet?
[01:09] <rww> duvel: because we're the largest channel on freenode
[01:09] <rcmaehl> rww: <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:09] <bazhang> joulez, its not supported. avoid it for now
[01:09] <rww> joulez: GNOME 3 is not officially supported on any current versions of Ubuntu
[01:09] <DasEi> joules, yes via ppa (on lucid least)
[01:09] <joulez> ok.
[01:09] <duvel> rww: Did you see the honeypot scan for those IP's?
[01:09] <rww> rcmaehl: I know, our monitoring bots are pinging us about #freenode :)
[01:09] <Andy80> see you tomorrow, thanks for the help and have a good night!
[01:09] <rcmaehl> lol
[01:09] <duvel> rww: http://www.projecthoneypot.org/ip_<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:10] <rww> duvel: I know
[01:10] <Scribbled2x> ahh IC
[01:10] <joulez> what window manager does ubuntu have as default?
[01:10] <joulez> desktop enviroment rather.
[01:10] <bazhang> joulez, gnome
[01:10] <Hawthorne> gnome?
[01:10] <rww> joulez: GNOME 2
[01:10] <joulez> ok
[01:10] <Scribbled2x> GNOME
[01:11] <rww> joulez: Compiz window manager, Unity shell
[01:11] <joulez> gnome with compiz?
[01:11] <rww> joulez: yes
[01:11] <joulez> oh cool.
[01:12] <joshlegs> omgggggg i suck at this crap
[01:12] <Guest48127> hi
[01:12] <duvel> Does anyone know how some people get unaffiliated in their hostname? I'm worried about these floodbots targeting my IP.
[01:12] <rww> duvel: ask in #freenode for an "unaffiliated cloak"
[01:12] <duvel> Thank you
[01:12] <hamnegga> unity is the default now I believe, but I heard it sucks, if u have questions related to compiz and gnome or kde, let me know
[01:13] <Corey> duvel: Ask again in two weeks, we'll cloak you then.
[01:13] <duvel> wtf
[01:13] <Guest48127> thinkpad on natty: i cant switch to text console ctl+alt+f1... blank screen
[01:13] <joshlegs> doh, why you do that rww?
[01:13] <Guest48127> can anyone help?
[01:13] <rww> joulez: because having bans on randomly-generated nicks is pointless
[01:14] <sebsebseb> duvel: Corey was  teaseing you
[01:14] <Corey> sebsebseb: I was not.
[01:14] <duvel> :(
[01:14] <bazhang> !ot | sebsebseb
[01:14] <joshlegs> so how come all the programs in this linux mag i got the other day aren't in the software center ??
[01:14] <sebsebseb> Corey: duvel oh nevermind actsually
[01:14] <Corey> joshlegs: Such as?
[01:15] <joshlegs> such as bluegriffon (the one i've tried unsuccessfully installing from the website) and creepy
[01:16] <DirtyJerz> so anyone good with Xorg? i cant drop to a virtual console. no text blank screen.
[01:16] <duvel> Does anyone know how I can enable a media server in ubuntu so that I can stream movies to my PS3? Does XBMC work for this purpose?
[01:16] <DirtyJerz> duvel: ps3 media server
[01:16] <Corey> Sorry about the noise, I had to build that on the fly.
[01:16] <joshlegs> sorry left your name out: corey such as bluegriffon (the one i've tried unsuccessfully installing from the website) and creepy
[01:17] <duvel> Corey: Those were your spambots?
[01:17] <Scribbled2x> Ubuntu is based upon debian (I think I read that somewhere) if I wanted an explanation of how Ubuntu boots - is there currently a page that talks about this?
[01:17] <JayPro> running a ubuntu server and was wondering if there's a way to read cpu temperature, and log these temperatures every 20 minutes or so... trying to determine if i can run my server all day without overheating
[01:17] <rww> Scribbled2x: Ubuntu's init system is not the same as Debian's.
[01:17] <DirtyJerz> Scribbled2x: grub
[01:17] <gsr> I'm looking for a low-level event logger (like a key logger, but it also records whenever a mouse is used, CD/USB device added/removed, or any other input is used).  Are there kernel options for this, or do I need a seperate program?  I would want to be able to enable/disable it with a keyboard shortcut.
[01:17] <bazhang> !upstart > Scribbled2x
[01:18] <SinnerNyx> what command would make ubuntu unmount all fstab volumes and then remount them?
[01:18] <rww> Scribbled2x: there's an Upstart cookbook somewhere you might find useful. I don't have the URL handy, though.
[01:18] <Scribbled2x> thank you
[01:18] <Scribbled2x> its ok I will look for it rww thanks
[01:18] <rabbitear> your welcome
[01:18] <joshlegs> !upstart >joshlegs
[01:18] <rabbitear> ubottu: why are you saying that in the main?
[01:18] <SinnerNyx> lol
[01:19] <rabbitear> damn
[01:19] <rabbitear> ubottu: your no fun
[01:19] <rabbitear> ubottu: who made you?
[01:19] <rabbitear> bad design
[01:19] <bazhang> rabbitear, /msg the bot
[01:19] <Daekdroom> rabbitear, don't play with the bot
[01:19] <Scribbled2x> rww - - http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/  < they actually have it readily available on their homepage
[01:19] <rabbitear> I always play with bots
[01:20] <rww> Scribbled2x: ah, there you go. I'm not in Xorg, couldn't check easily :)
[01:20] <bazhang> rabbitear, do it in /msg
[01:20] <rabbitear> I am THE bot whore if you will
[01:20] <bazhang> rabbitear, thats enough.
[01:20] <rww> rabbitear: I don't will. Get back on-topic, please :)
[01:20] <Scribbled2x> rww - is someone still maintaining BitchX?
[01:20] <rabbitear> oh okay sorry
[01:20] <rww> Scribbled2x: No. We don't recommend you use it.
[01:20] <Scribbled2x> np
[01:20] <rabbitear> for now
[01:21] <SinnerNyx> what command would make ubuntu unmount all fstab volumes and then remount them?
[01:21] <SinnerNyx> command or commands*
[01:21] <DirtyJerz> so no text consoles.....anyone?
[01:21] <rabbitear> man umount
[01:21] <Hawthorne> how well are Macs supported by ubuntu?
[01:21] <Corey> duvel: The noise fron the unquiets.  If I wanted to break the network I'd just unplug a server or three. :-)
[01:22] <sudokode> Hawthorne: a lot of the current standard mac hardware is supported by linux
[01:22] <DirtyJerz> SinnerNyx: try umount -a && mount -a
[01:22] <rabbitear> I use an 800mhz iMac
[01:22] <rabbitear> the lamp thingy
[01:23] <Hawthorne> sudokode, so the magic mouse would have no problems?
[01:23] <rabbitear> actually it does have ubuntu on it sudokode
[01:23] <sudokode> that's a good question
[01:23] <DasEi> SinnerNyx: it won't unmount partitions in use aka root
[01:23] <sudokode> not familiar with mac or the magic mouse, so I can't sufficiently answer that
[01:23] <rabbitear> Hawthorne: it'll work
[01:23] <rabbitear> Hawthorne: no matter how magic it is
[01:23] <Hawthorne> aha
[01:23] <SinnerNyx> DirtyJerz: is mtab another file like fstab? maybe i'll move all my mount entries to there
[01:24] <rabbitear> Hawthorne: you can the buttons extras later
[01:24] <sudokode> Hawthorne: http://is.gd/hlonMe
[01:24] <DirtyJerz> SinnerNyx: dunno
[01:24] <rabbitear> Hawthorne: thats why nobody likes ubuntu
[01:24] <Hawthorne> okey, thanks rabbitear and sudokode
[01:24] <sudokode> si si
[01:24] <mrdeb> huh
[01:24] <rabbitear> your welcome Hawthorne
[01:24] <SinnerNyx> DirtyJerz: alright thanks. thats the hint I needed. Google will prolly be able to help me from here
[01:24] <Hawthorne> you're*
[01:24] <DirtyJerz> :)
[01:24] <rabbitear> because it makes people lazy and meaks
[01:24] <rabbitear> meak
[01:25] <bastidrazor> rabbitear: speak for yourself. lazy and meak
[01:25] <rww> meek
[01:25] <rabbitear> like a good evil thing
[01:25] <rabbitear> meek..
[01:25] <Hawthorne> mæk?
[01:25] <rabbitear> yeah one of those expressions
[01:25]  * rabbitear hey I'll back in a bit
[01:26] <Kleus> hello ubuntu peoples
[01:27] <rww> hi
[01:27] <itaylor57> last I checked the meek will inherit the earth LOL
[01:27] <SinnerNyx> DasEi: that's fine I think. thanks
[01:27] <ladder99> sinner nyx  sudo umount -f /Volumes/
[01:27] <Scribbled2x> rww - Just like Uboto had one of those links explaining upstart - don't suppose he has / had / will have one of those links handy for an explanation of how Ubuntu configures its networking?
[01:27] <Kleus> so anyone willing to answer some q's about getting ubuntu working off a usb stick?
[01:28] <Kleus> and ive looked over the various forums and documentation, its not a sandisk usb, over 2gbs etc
[01:28] <DasEi> kleus: just ask
[01:28] <Kleus> i keep getting a screen full of text when i try to boot
[01:29] <DasEi> kleus: size ?
[01:29] <rww> Scribbled2x: There are two major subsystems for networking in Ubuntu. Desktop systems generally use NetworkManager, and command-line ones use /etc/network/interfaces. I don't know of factoids for them, but there's a "man interfaces" if you're using that one.
[01:29] <Kleus> the initial ubuntu screen comes up
[01:29] <Kleus> 4gb
[01:29] <crimson22> if i setup a computer on a home network with ubuntu, is there a way I can control it remotely? I don't mean something like TightVNC, just be able to control it from cmd prompt and the like
[01:29] <DoYouKnow> anyone know of a program for ubuntu that will test out my modem without having to have a sim inserted?
[01:29] <DasEi> !ssh | crimson22
[01:29] <DoYouKnow> well, a sim inserted
[01:29] <DoYouKnow> but maybe not a data plan
[01:29] <DoYouKnow> just texting
[01:30] <Scribbled2x> rww kewl kewl thanks let me see what I can find  "main interfaces" is the querry of the day :)
[01:30] <SinnerNyx> DirtyJerz: umount -a && mount -a. Perfect. Thanks :D
[01:30] <Kleus> damn, i should took a picture of the text so i could post it here
[01:30] <crimson22> DasEi, sweet, thanks bud
[01:30] <Kleus> prolly be more effective than trying to remember it
[01:30] <DasEi> crimson22: ask if unsure
[01:30] <DasEi> Kleus: how did you set up ? iso verified ?
[01:30] <Koopa516> Alright, does anybody here know if theres any way I can have one stream of audio heading to speakers and another heading to headphones using ubuntu?
[01:30] <crimson22> DasEi, I daresay i'll be back with queries, have to install ubuntu on other machine first though lol
[01:31] <Kleus> yes dasei
[01:31] <Kleus> the usb boots fine on my main computer
[01:31] <DasEi> Kleus: how did you set up ?
[01:31] <Kleus> no issues
[01:31] <Kleus> i downloaded the iso on this computer and followed pendrivelinux's installer's instructions
[01:31] <DasEi> Kleus: can you boot safemode to access the log ? or use the working one after a fail-boot
[01:32] <Kleus> i havent tried booting into safe mode
[01:32] <DasEi> Kleus: maybe try another way, like unetbootin
[01:32] <ladder99> does anyone know a good firewall and how to configure it
[01:32] <rww> !ufw | ladder99
[01:32] <DasEi> gufw if you want gui, ladder99
[01:33] <Kleus> hmm, imma try that dasei
[01:33] <ladder99> also how can i clear the ram
[01:34] <dork> ladder99: reboot
[01:34] <ladder99> thank you
[01:34] <DasEi> ladder99: there are ways, but why ?
[01:34] <thedevil> ladder99: you also might be able to swapoff <device> then swapon <device>
[01:35] <ladder99> dasei i just find it runs better
[01:35] <sudokode> you can also clear the cache with /proc
[01:35] <sudokode> but why clear the cache :S
[01:35] <joshlegs> dude. im getting pissed with all these things i can supposedly do with linux :S :S
[01:35] <rww> ok.
[01:35] <DasEi> joshlegs: like learning friendly language ;)
[01:35] <ladder99> sudokode i keep it light
[01:36] <sudokode> not sure what that means
[01:36] <joshlegs> doh, that's not unfriendly :o but i'll not use that word again ...... but in any case, why the junk is linux so hard to learn how to do ANYTHING on?
[01:36] <tgregory> alguem diz portugues ????
[01:36] <coz_> joshlegs,  it gets easier with time   honestly
[01:36] <tgregory> help
[01:36] <ladder99> sudokode i dont use alot of space
[01:37] <Arodnap> oi
[01:37] <Arodnap> tem alguem do brasil?
[01:37] <sudokode> free memory is wasted memory
[01:37] <joshlegs> coz_ it sure as carp (the fish) not easy now :S
[01:37] <DasEi> !ask | tgregory
[01:37] <coz_> joshlegs,  with the amount of control y ou will have on linux,, that alone will get you going
[01:37] <joshlegs> i can't install this bluegriffon editor at all
[01:37] <ladder99> sudokode i keep it on externals
[01:37] <joshlegs> and i really want to  :S
[01:37] <coz_> joshlegs,  ok I understand,, bluegriffon?
[01:37] <sudokode> the memory?
[01:37] <joshlegs> and then i figured i'd try this proxy thingy, and i cant get it to work either
[01:37] <sudokode> or do you mean storage
[01:37] <Arodnap> porque?
[01:38] <xangua> !pt | Arodnap
[01:38] <joshlegs> bluegriffon, coz_ is a WYSIWYG webeditor .. read about it in linux format mag
[01:38] <OerHeks> joshlegs, http://www.sourceslist.eu/blog/how-to-install-bluegriffon-editor-wysiwyg-on-ubuntu/
[01:38] <tgregory> bronx
[01:38] <aloniv> Hello everyone - I want to show a friend Ubuntu 11.04 via a live CD but unfortunately wireless crashes on my netbook (1001px). Can this be fixed? I have no intention of installing Ubuntu on the netbook.
[01:38] <ladder99> sudokode i keep everything on an external hard drive
[01:38] <tgregory> atrix
[01:38] <coz_> joshlegs,  ah I see,, yes just googled it
[01:38] <coz_> joshlegs,  let me take a look at it  hold on
[01:38] <tgregory> netbook
[01:38] <sudokode> blue griffin editor?
[01:38] <sudokode> just use vim
[01:38] <tgregory> 889
[01:38] <rabbitear> I forgot whats happening
[01:38] <rabbitear> tgregory: whats that?
[01:38] <aloniv> I already have a GNU/Linux distro installed that works.
[01:39] <joshlegs> :S oerheks thanks for that ... i dont know though which to click: md5sums, bluegriffon-universal etc
[01:39] <tgregory> portuguese
[01:39] <tgregory> brasil ??
[01:39] <rabbitear> aloniv: welcome to the real world?
[01:39] <rww> !br | tgregory
[01:39] <tgregory> alguem ???
[01:39] <joshlegs> idk even what an md5sums is :(
[01:39] <rabbitear> aloniv: and not the fake ones?
[01:39] <aloniv> fake what?
[01:39] <coz_> joshlegs,  to be fair , this is not currently in the repositories so probably not  used much at least here
[01:39] <sudokode> joshlegs: it's a hash of a string of text
[01:39] <pooltable> how to get a google plus invite?
[01:39] <rabbitear> sudokode: your just overly pigheaded
[01:40] <rww> !ot | pooltable
[01:40] <coz_> joshlegs,  md5 sum  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5sum
[01:40] <rabbitear> sudokode: these people are okay
[01:40] <tgregory> #ubunto-br
[01:40] <rabbitear> no
[01:40] <coz_> joshlegs,  it will verify that the download has not been corrupted
[01:40] <sudokode> rabbitear: what are you doing here
[01:40] <joshlegs> oh ok. coz_ i tried looking for it in the software manager, but didnt see it. but there have been other progs i have found that to be the case with, and just downloaded from the website
[01:40] <rabbitear> sudokode: giving you some time and a needle
[01:40] <rabbitear> sudokode: bro
[01:40] <joshlegs> however, when i do that with bluegriffon, i give it permissions, then try to open it, and it gives me some strange new icon that says something like invalid coding
[01:40] <Koopa516> Alright, does anybody here know if theres any way I can have one stream of audio heading to speakers and another heading to headphones using ubuntu?
[01:40] <coz_> joshlegs,  understood,, unfortunately,, if not from the repositories , it is most likely not going to be supported here
[01:40] <aloniv> rabbitbear: I have a netbook that works with Trisquel so no need for Ubuntu. My firned has newer hardware which requires a newer kernel.
[01:41] <pooltable> rww off topic sorr
[01:41] <joshlegs> ahh, ok thanks coz_
[01:41] <rabbitear> aloniv: k
[01:41] <aloniv> *friend
[01:41] <coz_> joshlegs,  be right back, nature call
[01:41] <rabbitear> aloniv: got it
[01:41] <rabbitear> aloniv: I figured out what you ment, watson is next to me
[01:41] <joshlegs> hm. oerheks, i downloaded it from that site you gave me, then when i opened the file, it gave me this: An error occurred while extracting files.
[01:42] <joshlegs> i guess that means there's an error somewhere in the coding or something? or am i just totally out in left field? :S
[01:42] <rabbitear> sudokode: just joking around tho
[01:43] <clcto> o/ ramzai
[01:43] <clcto> rabbitear: *
[01:44] <rabbitear> sudokode: clcto: this is a good room
[01:44] <aloniv> rabbitgear: I suppose I could give him another distro that has a new kernel such as Linux Mint, although I prefer Ubuntu's policy towards non-free software (i.e. you need to install most of it yourself).
[01:44] <DasEi> joshlegs: calm down a little, coz is on it, and may possibly help in a moment, get a tea ..
[01:44] <rabbitear> oh better watch out friends...
[01:44] <rabbitear> read books and such
[01:44] <rww> rabbitear: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. Please move chitchat to PM or #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[01:44] <rabbitear> aloniv: no actually ubuntu is fine
[01:45] <joshlegs> lol ok dasei .. sorry, i guess im just a little irked because im totally lost ... will do
[01:45] <rabbitear> aloniv: make sure it works for him
[01:45] <rabbitear> aloniv: etc, blah blah
[01:45] <rabbitear> rww: we're trying to help
[01:45] <rabbitear> rww: thats what we do
[01:45] <tgregory> \join #blacktrack
[01:46] <rabbitear> tgregory: horrible
[01:46] <aloniv> rabbitgear: I understand but I prefer to show it to him on my netbook beforehand via live CD/USB. If wifi doesn;t work it's a bit pointless.
[01:46] <pooltable> is there any probles with 3TB and linux?
[01:46] <rcmaehl> where can I get help with .htaccess?
[01:46] <rabbitear> aloniv: what you saying, it doesn't! work or you think it will not?
[01:47] <rww> pooltable: 3TB of what?
[01:47] <aloniv> wifi crahes on my netbook when I boot from live USB it's a reported bug
[01:47] <pooltable> rww if i have a 3TB will it show all of it or only 2.2TB?
[01:47] <rabbitear> aloniv: why do you know its the wifi?
[01:48] <rabbitear> aloniv: and what is a 'crash'
[01:48] <rww> pooltable: a 3TB what?
[01:48] <aloniv> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1741593
[01:48] <rabbitear> aloniv: I mean please discribe
[01:48] <pooltable> rww hard drive
[01:48] <rabbitear> no
[01:48] <rabbitear> I can't aloniv
[01:48] <semitones> hey everyone, if I have a computer that boots straight to the first grub entry, how can I intercept that so I can modify the grub boot entry?
[01:48] <aloniv> just look at this thread please
[01:48] <rabbitear> I don't have web
[01:48] <rabbitear> http access
[01:48] <semitones> (also, my cd drive seems to be disconnected)
[01:48] <rww> pooltable: should be fine if you use ext4
[01:48] <duvel> So no one knows of a media server that can stream movies to my PS3 from ubuntu?
[01:48] <aloniv> when I try to connect to wifi I get a kernel error.
[01:48] <rabbitear> oh
[01:48] <turt1e> Anyone have experiance recoverying files off a RAID disk?  My NAS box died so I pulled one drive out and plugged it in via usb but can't see any files.  Disk Utitlity on my ubuntu 10.04 sees the drive and knows there is an array on it.
[01:48] <OerHeks> semitones, hold left shift @ boot to enter grubmenu
[01:49] <pooltable> rww how do i make it use ext4?
[01:49] <rabbitear> aloniv: thats good, can you continue
[01:49] <jh2os_> Hey, how to make money with your linux ubuntu! http://11th-fret.blogspot.com/2011/07/how-to-make-spare-money-with-linux.html
[01:49] <rww> jh2os_: don't advertise in here
[01:49] <rww> pooltable: ext4 is the default on current versions of Ubuntu
[01:49] <jh2os_> ohh sorry
[01:49] <semitones> OerHeks: is it enough to hold it down, or do I have to 'spam' it
[01:49] <OerHeks> just hold
[01:49] <semitones> rww: is reiserfs still a good fs, or is it really old now
[01:49] <pooltable> rww ok
[01:49] <rabbitear> let the man type
[01:49] <semitones> OerHeks: thanks
[01:49] <rww> semitones: reiserfs was never a good filesystem
[01:50] <aloniv> kernel; panic error. anyway apparently it's solved by updating the kernel but this is not relevant for a live CD environment.
[01:50] <bazhang> rabbitear, enough chit chat here
[01:50] <Jon--> How can I adjust the delay when switching between workspaces in ubuntu 11.04 without using compiz? [Is it possible?]
[01:50] <rabbitear> bam me then
[01:50] <rww> ok
[01:50] <duvel> hahaha. Ask and you shall receive.
[01:50] <aloniv> anyway wifi works fine on my current distro (based on 10.04 with updates)
[01:51] <w30> semitones, what as default or just one time?
[01:51] <zi> sudokode - How do I install the pacman game?
[01:51] <semitones> w30: just once in order to boot in VESA mode or something
[01:51] <semitones> also what boot option would give you safe graphics mode?
[01:51] <juvenal> tem alguém ai que fala portugues?
[01:52] <rww> !br | juvenal
[01:53] <w30> semitones, just keep hitting any key as it boots and it will halt and then you can use arrow keys or e key to edit
[01:54] <Terminal_> NEed a keyboard driver with better response times
[01:54] <Terminal_> As my shift buttons are broken
[01:54] <semitones> w30: if you have a single OS system, the grub menu never shows up -- I think OerHeks is right and you have to hold shift
[01:54] <Terminal_> ANd the caps lock stays on like so when I type fast
[01:54] <Terminal_> Anyone know one?
[01:56] <Terminal_> fuck a duck :(
[01:56] <bazhang> Terminal_, no cursing here
[01:56] <w30> semitones, if you have to put in a time pause in grub
[01:57] <itaylor57> Terminal_, same question as yesterday will probably yield the same answer
[02:00] <qin> Terminal_: Better keyboard? Did you try xbinkeys?
[02:05] <pooltable> what is xbinkeys
[02:05] <pooltable> ?
[02:05] <clcto> pooltable: a program
[02:06] <pooltable> for  programming?
[02:06] <clcto> pooltable: for binding keys
[02:06] <qin> pooltable: xbindkeys*, for binding
[02:07] <slacker-> hi
[02:07] <qin> pooltable: Neat for gaming.
[02:07] <clcto> slacker-: no chitchat here. take it to offtopic
[02:07] <slacker-> is there an ubuntu that boots on a CPU that doesn't have the cmov feature?
[02:08] <bazhang> clcto, he just said hi
[02:08] <slacker-> excuse me? i'm not allowed to say hi?
[02:08] <rww> slacker-: ignore them, they're being silly
[02:08] <Terminal_> nigger
[02:08] <pooltable> qin i see thanks
[02:08] <bazhang> slacker-, dont worry about it
[02:08] <slacker-> right
[02:09] <ExplodingPiglets> xkill is not working on firefox
[02:09] <ExplodingPiglets> help?
[02:09] <Nobgul-bnc> slacker-, I think that is a issue with the kernal, you would need to use a older kernel
[02:09] <clcto> ExplodingPiglets: killall firefox
[02:09] <szal> slacker-: example for one?
[02:09] <ExplodingPiglets> firefox no process found
[02:09] <slacker-> szal: one what?
[02:09] <ExplodingPiglets> I am using the terminal
[02:09] <szal> slacker-: CPU w/o cmov
[02:10] <clcto> ExplodingPiglets: so type killall firefox and hit enter
[02:10] <coz_> joshlegs,  installing that now hold on
[02:10] <ExplodingPiglets> firefox no process found
[02:10] <ExplodingPiglets> I feel like I am being redundant.
[02:10] <Nobgul-bnc> No he wants a distro that will boot on a proc without cmov. Which is why i said a older kernel would not look for cmov
[02:10] <slacker-> szal: I have a "pendo pad" here with a "RDC 3306 1 GHz" CPU
[02:10] <joshlegs> cool coz_ thanks for the help :o
[02:10] <rww> ExplodingPiglets: I think it's firefox-bin
[02:10] <clcto> ExplodingPiglets: "top" is firefox there?
[02:10] <Nobgul-bnc> ExplodingPiglets, type ps aux | grep firefox and
[02:11] <coz_> joshlegs,  ok it's opened
[02:11] <coz_> joshlegs,  looks nice
[02:11] <clcto> ExplodingPiglets: what rww said
[02:11] <captyler> I am being executing this "gunzip -c /home/esteban/dd/sdb9.img.gz | dd of=~/dd/sd9.img conv"  and it doenst stop. What happen?
[02:11] <joshlegs> .... :( i'm on 10.10 ... i should be able to use it right? .... or should i have 11.04?
[02:11] <ExplodingPiglets> ok that worked.
[02:11] <ExplodingPiglets> thanks
[02:12] <coz_> joshlegs,  you might want to check here for joining the applications group  http://groups.google.com/group/bluegriffon/
[02:12] <itaylor57> joshlegs, it will work better on 10.10
[02:12] <slacker-> Nobgul-bnc: how far back should I go? 6.06 is the earliest I can find on my mirror
[02:12] <captyler> sorry , the line complete is gunzip -c /home/esteban/dd/sdb9.img.gz | dd of=~/dd/sd9.img conv=sync,noerror bs=64K
[02:12] <Nobgul-bnc> slacker-, I am looking to see, 1 second
[02:13] <slacker-> Nobgul-bnc: cheers
[02:13] <coz_> joshlegs,  unfortunately the "addons"  are not free
[02:13] <joshlegs> hm. coz_ it says discussions aren't available now
[02:13] <joshlegs> hm. coz_ why do i keep getting goofy messages when i do it? i'll show you the picpaste i have
[02:14] <thrilway> Is there a way to hide the Unity Launcher when it gets stuck open?
[02:14] <captyler> Why  "gunzip -c /home/esteban/dd/sdb9.img.gz | dd of=~/dd/sd9.img conv=sync,noerror bs=64K "  doenst stop? the original partition was 60 Gb and this command goes 110 gb and continues dd-ing
[02:14] <sohot4u2> how do i get shockwave on ubuntu?
[02:14] <Nobgul-bnc> slacker-, all indications point towards kernel 2.6.26-1-386 being the last one that did not require the cmov featre
[02:14] <joshlegs> http://picpaste.com/errorencoding-MNNx3xIr.png
[02:14] <Nobgul-bnc> !shockwave
[02:14] <slacker-> Nobgul-bnc: that's not too far away
[02:14] <joshlegs> see the icon third from the left, coz_ ? it does that after i give it permissions and then double click the installer
[02:15] <sohot4u2> how do i get shockwave on ubuntu? i need it for firefox
[02:15] <Nobgul-bnc> sohot4u2 \ !shockwave
[02:15] <captyler> I has finished ! but, why a dd image carries much more space than the original image?
[02:15] <Nobgul-bnc> sohot4u2 | !shockwave
[02:15] <szal> sohot4u2: did you mean: Flash?
[02:15] <coz_> joshlegs,  hmm  not sure ,, I installed the 32 bit version
[02:15] <sohot4u2> no i mean shockwave :X
[02:15] <phlux> !shockwave | sohot4u2
[02:15] <joshlegs> oh. i did the 64. let me try the 32
[02:16] <Nobgul-bnc> sohot4u2, just look above. you cannot get shockwave on ubuntu unless you use wine
[02:16] <sohot4u2> thanks
[02:16] <soool> Hi all! how can i block all network traffic from and to a specific application?
[02:16] <Nobgul-bnc> slacker-, no its not at all
[02:16] <coz_> joshlegs,  the problem here is,, again,, I doubt many if nayone use bluegriffin ,, however  you could try the ##linux channel ,, get their opinions
[02:16] <Nobgul-bnc> slacker-, how old is this computer?
[02:17] <joshlegs> cool. thanks coz_ for the tips. let me try the 32 bit real quick
[02:17] <slacker->  Nobgul-bnc: i don't know, it's a netbook which comes with XP
[02:17] <Nobgul-bnc> slacker-, got ya. Ubuntu may lag a bit
[02:18] <slacker-> Nobgul-bnc: don't care. all I need is dd to image the disc
[02:18] <joshlegs> doh. wouldn't you know it coz_ the 32 bit is working for me
[02:18] <Nobgul-bnc> ah ok
[02:18] <joshlegs> ....
[02:18]  * joshlegs feels really dumb now :(
[02:18] <coz_> joshlegs,  interesting
[02:18] <slacker-> Nobgul-bnc: looking for a lightweight livecd. any suggestions?
[02:18] <Nobgul-bnc> xubuntu
[02:19] <slacker-> don't need x
[02:19] <thrilway> soool- you'll probably have to mess around with iptables
[02:19] <slacker-> but ok
[02:19] <bazhang> Nobgul-bnc, slacker- lubuntu is the lightest. xubuntu is hardly that
[02:19] <Nobgul-bnc> thank you bazhang, I have others i would use but they aren't ubuntu so i won't mention them here =)
[02:20] <slacker-> Nobgul-bnc: xubuntu i386 desktop iso is a live cd?
[02:20] <bazhang> well the minimal iso is the lightest
[02:20] <bazhang> slacker-, yes
[02:21] <slacker-> bazhang: i need to be able to mount fat partitions so I can store my dd
[02:21] <slacker-> on usb
[02:21] <joshlegs> well at least i can get it to work now :) thanks for the helpies coz_ you're no. 1 in my book! :P
[02:21] <usr13> slacker-: http://www.slax.org/
[02:21] <coz_> joshlegs,  no problem
[02:22] <pooltable> slacker puppy linux
[02:22] <joshlegs> ok i reckon i'll go on now. i need to start making myself go to sleep or i'll never get there :S
[02:22] <joshlegs> night all :)
[02:22] <Nobgul-bnc> puppy or deli
[02:22] <slacker-> keep in mind I need an old kernel too
[02:22] <Nobgul-bnc> Anyway night all.
[02:22] <slacker-> i might just go with xubuntu
[02:23] <pooltable> or even DSL
[02:23] <clcto> slacker-: just go with archlinux
[02:23] <thrilway> on second thought soool, just bolk whatever port the offending application uses with ufw
[02:24] <pooltable> ufw ?
[02:24] <szal> pooltable: DSL is dead
[02:25] <pooltable> szal when did it died sorry i did not wnow
[02:25] <pooltable> know
[02:26] <pooltable> wekk good night to all
[02:26] <pooltable> well
[02:26] <szal> slacker-: as far as I gather, for something to work on that..  thing, you need a distro that is able to run on pre-i686 architecture
[02:26] <slacker-> szal: i'm getting hardy
[02:27] <slacker-> that comes with linux-image-2.6.24-16-386
[02:28] <szal> slacker-: you could put Slack on it, if that is still i486 ;)
[02:29] <slacker-> szal: as i said, all i need is dd on a livecd to image the disc. no putting on anythgin
[02:29] <a1cd> I'm running a update with aptitude, I see its making new files in /boot/, Do I need to reboot for those to take effect?
[02:31] <usr13> slacker-: ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/slax/
[02:32] <bfreis> I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 on my Dell Latitude E6510, and my integrated Webcam stopped working some days ago. There's no /dev/video*. Any hints?
[02:33] <szal> slacker-: http://grml.org/ <- "live CD for sysadmins", 32bit is i586
[02:33] <usr13> slacker-: 5.1.4 has kernel version 2.6.16
[02:34] <slacker-> i've already got 240MB of xubuntu, sorry. but thanks for the suggedstions
[02:34] <jesus_> i have a problem with sound, my ubuntu 11.04 lost the sound when i use the program
[02:34] <slacker-> will try if hardy won't boot
[02:34] <thrilway> bfreis- check in /dev/v4l/
[02:34] <Kleus> Okay.  Anyone whos seen this > http://i.imgur.com/uw27B.jpg < when trying to install off a usb, plz help
[02:35] <szal> slacker-: just saying that it can't hurt to have something like that at hand; a *buntu live CD is hardly a general-purpose emergency system ;)
[02:35] <maco> Kleus: that looks like a kernel panic. some bit of hardware is NOT happy with ubuntu
[02:35] <usr13> slacker-: There are older ones, but don't think you need any older than 2.6.16
[02:35] <Kleus> maco is there a way to tell what it is that ubuntu doesnt like?
[02:35] <slacker-> szal: i know. normally i'd just get a knoppix but i thought i'll try ubuntu based this time
[02:36] <bfreis> thrilway, cd: /dev/v4l: No such file or directory
[02:36] <maco> Kleus: you can try posting a bug report with that and your system info and maybe the kernel bug triager will have an idea if its an incompatibility. it's also possible for it to be a bit of hardware going bad  (kernel panics are like blue screens of death)
[02:37] <bfreis> thrilway, lsusb shows no webcam -- it used to show the integrated webcam
[02:37] <Kleus> hmm.  alright.  ty maco
[02:37] <usr13> I haven't used knoppix in some time, but it has always been quite a bit too bloated for my needs.
[02:37] <thrilway> bfreis- sorry, I think I'm out of my depth
[02:38] <bfreis> thrilway, ok, thanks anyway!
[02:39] <slacker-> szal: so you reckon the grml 2011 05 iso would do?
[02:40] <jesus_> I have a problem with ubuntu, stop ringing just open a song or playing a video on the Internet. I think they are drivers or ALSA SOUND
[02:43] <SharkMonkey> how do I keep a service from running at startup?
[02:45] <dr_willis> depends on the service
[02:45] <dr_willis> check /etc/init for a *.conf for it. rename the file. is one way
[02:46] <SharkMonkey> nginx
[02:46] <SharkMonkey> that seems hacky.
[02:46] <dr_willis> foo.conf ---  becomes foo.dontrun
[02:46] <dr_willis> or edit the conf file
[02:47] <dr_willis> if its handled by upstart
[02:47] <dr_willis> thats how upstart docs say.. basically
[02:47] <dr_willis> for sysv   you remove the symlinks in /etc/rc.*
[02:47] <SharkMonkey> the nginx.conf file is a standard nginx.conf file it has nothing ubuntu related to startup
[02:48] <dr_willis> is it in /etc/ ?
[02:48] <SharkMonkey> /etc/nginx/nginx.conf
[02:48] <dr_willis>  /etc/init/?  i mean
[02:48] <dr_willis>  look in /etc/init/
[02:49] <SharkMonkey> there is /etc/init/nginx
[02:50] <SharkMonkey> How would I edit it? It's a shell script. exit at the top?
[02:50] <dr_willis> a /etc/init/nginx.conf   - either rename/move or edit whats inside it. thers some line in file to disable it running normally
[02:50] <dr_willis> its not a shell script i belive
[02:51] <jesus_> Why my ubuntu doesn't sound?
[02:51] <dr_willis> its a upstart config file
[02:52] <dr_willis> !sound
[02:52] <rww> SharkMonkey: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[02:52] <SharkMonkey> oh i was looking at /etc/init.d/nginx
[02:52] <dr_willis> SharkMonkey:  thats the old sysv method. but that file may just be a link to some upstart files
[02:53] <dr_willis> most services are moving to upstart and /etc/init/
[02:53] <dr_willis> slowly moving..
[02:54] <cyphaw> hello
[02:54] <cyphaw> I've got a small problem with wine and pulseaudio, is there someone here that may help me?
[02:54] <usr13> cyphaw: Lay it out and see.
[02:55] <SharkMonkey> dr_willis, so how do i stop this kind?
[02:55] <SharkMonkey> it's not a symlink to upstart
[02:55] <cyphaw> ok, so thing is, I have an error when I launch wine, but I have sound. For some apps, the sound is good, for another one it's cracking
[02:55] <SharkMonkey> a lot of them seem to be
[02:55] <Stingray88> would anyone be willing to help me mount my USB drive?
[02:55] <cyphaw> if I install lib32asound2-plugins to solve the error message, then I have cracking sound then no sound at all
[02:55] <dr_willis> if it has a /etc/init/foo.conf    rename it  foo.dontrun     is one way i always do it
[02:56] <usr13> cyphaw: is this a 64bit system?
[02:56] <cyphaw> yes
[02:56] <SharkMonkey> dr_willis, that's for upstart though right. this is the old kind.
[02:56] <Stingray88> It's formatted ext4, but it's not showing up under media
[02:57] <dr_willis> SharkMonkey: it it has a a /etc/init/ its upstart  the other file is sort of a fake i think... try renaming the init/foo.conf and see
[02:57] <usr13> cyphaw: You may need a complete set of 32bit libraries if you are going to run 32bit applications along side the 64bit ones.
[02:57] <slacker-> alright, it's booting but "it may be unstable"
[02:57] <dr_willis> i dont think there really is sysv left. upstart is sort of fakeing it.
[02:57] <Stingray88> can anyone assist me with mounting this drive? I can't remember how it's done
[02:58] <usr13> cyphaw: Or, you may just need to ditch pulseaudio
[02:58] <dr_willis> !mount | Stingray88
[02:58] <usr13> Stingray88: Is it a USB drive?
[02:58] <Stingray88> yes
[02:58] <cyphaw> usr13: actually, i just installed it and I need it, and the sound in wine was working fine before I installed it
[02:58] <ladder99> bluetooth question
[02:58] <Stingray88> I just formatted it with gparted to be ext4, and now it isn't showing up
[02:58] <funkeyy> HI all! ive really a strange Problem over Here... i can execute "/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/Equis/MetaStock/MsWin.exe" in a gnome-Panel quicklauncher.. but if i run it in alt+F2 or in terminal it would give me an err. "DLL9X.dll missing".. wtf?!
[02:59] <dr_willis> Stingray88:  make a fstab entry for it
[02:59] <dr_willis> !fstab
[02:59] <usr13> Stingray88: gparted does not format partions, it creates them.  You will need to format a partition before being able to mount it.
[03:00] <usr13> cyphaw: What did you install?
[03:00] <Stingray88> usr13: it does format them
[03:00] <dr_willis> well gparted does have a format feature. ;)
[03:00] <ladder99> using bluetooth phone to control computer?
[03:00] <usr13> dr_willis: Ok.. I stand corrected.
[03:00] <dr_willis> just rember to partition then format.. not the reverse
[03:00] <usr13> Stingray88: Ok, so what are you going to use it for?
[03:00] <jesus_> Doesn't have sound yet :(
[03:01] <cyphaw> usr13: I remember installing pulseaudio, pavumeter, pavucontrol, paman and paprefs
[03:01] <dr_willis> ladder99:  in what way.
[03:01] <usr13> Stingray88: (You will need to create a mount point that makes sense to you.)
[03:01] <SharkMonkey> does anything important use the at daemon?
[03:01] <cyphaw> usr13: then just now I installed lib32asound2-plugins
[03:01] <usr13> !audio | cyphaw
[03:01] <jesus_> i can't enter to Alsa-proyect :(
[03:01] <ladder99> using it to control volume on rythmbox
[03:01] <dr_willis> SharkMonkey:  i would leave most services alone
[03:01] <ladder99> dr
[03:02] <cyphaw> ubottu: my sound is working fine with everything else actually
[03:02] <dr_willis> ladder99:  i got tools on my android that let me remote controll all sorts of things.  but its using the wireless networking. not bt
[03:02] <SharkMonkey> dr_willis, well I'm goint to reboot and see if this works. thanks for the help
[03:03] <usr13> Stingray88: First, create a mount point.  mkdir /mount-point  Then mount it:  mount /dev/sdb5 /mount-point
[03:03] <ghost> I have multiple email i want to check and i want it to storage free
[03:03] <ladder99> dr_willis notbt?
[03:03] <Guest15212> what program show i get ?
[03:04] <dr_willis> ladder99:  wireless networking.  i just use bt for my keyboard and mouse
[03:04] <ladder99> bt?
[03:04] <ladder99> what is bt
[03:04] <Guest15212> I have multiple email and i want to have program to check them and doesn't store in computer.
[03:04] <usr13> Stingray88: ( where sdb5 is the actual partition and /mount-point is the actual mount point you wanted and did in fact create. You will need to use sudo.)
[03:04] <ladder99> bluetooth sorry
[03:04] <Guest15212> I have multiple email and i want to have program to check them and doesn't store inside computer?
[03:05] <dr_willis> there are mail notify indicator applets Guest15212
[03:05] <rmsraph> Guest15212: use the imap protocol...
[03:05] <usr13> Stingray88: mount   with no arguments will tell you what all you have mounted now.
[03:05] <dr_willis> check webupd8 blog site or askubuntu.com for a list
[03:05] <Guest15212> What about Thunder bird ?
[03:05] <Guest15212> Does that store inside the laptop /computer?
[03:05] <dr_willis> i dont use it.. no idea
[03:05] <Stingray88> usr13: will it automount every time I boot up?
[03:05] <jesus_> i do it all it but still cant hear anything
[03:06] <usr13> Stingray88: No.  You will need to make an entry in fstab for it.
[03:06] <rmsraph> I use thunderbird with imap and not pop... the emails don't be stored on my computer...
[03:06] <Stingray88> usr13: that doesn't sound right. I've done this before and didn't do anything like that
[03:06] <ladder99> dr_willis can you direct me to those apps you use on your android
[03:07] <usr13> Stingray88: /dev/sdb5  /mount-point  auto  noauto,user,rw   0  0
[03:07] <usr13> Stingray88: Something like that ^^^^^
[03:08] <dr_willis> ladder99:     vlc, boxee, and a few others under 'remote' in the market
[03:08] <usr13> Stingray88: As I said before, it all depends on what you want to do with it.
[03:08] <Stingray88> I just want to mount it and have it stay mounted
[03:08] <ladder99> dr_willis thank you coming over from unix
[03:09] <dr_willis> Stingray88:  then make a fstab entry, mount it to /media/yourdisk  then. ;)
[03:09] <Stingray88> ok
[03:09] <slacker-> hardy doesn't seen to recognise my usb flash drive or the builtin ssd drive. what now?
[03:09] <usr13> Stingray88: Then create a mount point for it and edit /etc/fstab and place a suitable entry for it.
[03:09] <dr_willis> or whever you want. chwn/chmod it properly also for your needs
[03:10] <dr_willis> !hardy
[03:10] <dr_willis> slacker-:  upgrade.
[03:10] <funkeyy> brb
[03:10] <usr13> Stingray88: Let's say you were going to use the new partition for videos:
[03:10] <usr13> Stingray88: sudo mkidr /Videos
[03:11] <dimas_> i want to hear comments about installing low letancy kernels from repositories
[03:11] <usr13> Stingray88: /dev/sdb5 /Videos auto  noauto,users,rw  1  1
[03:11] <usr13> Stingray88:   fstab entry   ^^^^
[03:11] <slacker-> dr_willis: need hardy because of the old kernel. new kernel won't boot
[03:11] <slacker-> maybe it's grml time
[03:11] <Stingray88> usr13 is that all I would have to type in?
[03:12] <gokulnath> I created a folder as user1 and gave it permissions g+w -R, then i created a file inside this folder as user2, which is in the same group as user1. After this i am not able to edit the said file as user1. But i want to
[03:12] <dr_willis> slacker-:  old kernel may never work with the build in reader
[03:12] <usr13> Stingray88: Yep, that's pretty much it.  And then to test:  mount -a
[03:12] <usr13> sudo mount -a
[03:12] <dr_willis> thers been a lot of 'new kernels' i fint it hard to belive none work
[03:12] <usr13> Stingray88: Actually, just do   mount /Videos
[03:12] <usr13>   as user
[03:13] <dr_willis> usr13:  noauto = mount -a  wont mount it.
[03:13] <slacker-> dr_willis: i need one <= 2.6.26-1-386
[03:14] <usr13> dr_willis: So leave off noauto?
[03:14] <dr_willis> slacker-:  good luck.
[03:14] <slacker-> dr_willis: and i don't need a build in reader. only usb flash drive and ssd
[03:14] <dr_willis> noauto = do not mount at boot.
[03:15] <usr13> Oh, yea, that's for cdroms and such.
[03:15] <usr13> Stingray88: Scratch the noauto
[03:15] <ladder99> user13 and dr_willis I am impressed
[03:15] <usr13> Stingray88: /dev/sdb5 /Videos auto  users,rw  1  1
[03:15] <usr13> Stingray88:  OR:   /dev/sdb5 /Videos ext4  users,rw  1  1
[03:15] <usr13> dr_willis: RIght?
[03:15] <dr_willis> i think users option is pointless also for a ext4
[03:16] <usr13> Stingray88:  OR:   /dev/sdb5 /Videos ext4  rw  1  2
[03:16] <dr_willis> and i suggest /media/videos
[03:16] <usr13> dr_willis: How about that?
[03:16] <rcconf> hi, i have a doubt. when I need super user privileges may I use "sudo -s" so I don't have to type sudo all the time or should I use just "sudo" ?
[03:16] <dr_willis> and you really should use the uuid.  ;)
[03:17] <ladder99> does sudo timeout in linux after 5 minutes
[03:17] <truepurple> Can gpart format? If not, how do you format? Does one need to reformate to wipe a USB drive before putting ubuntu on it?
[03:17] <dr_willis> rcconf:  either waay is fine. just dont forget you are in a root shell
[03:17] <dr_willis> truepurple:  gparted has format options yes
[03:17] <truepurple> dr_willis: Where is it?
[03:17] <rcconf> dr_willis: what about "sudo -i"? is it dangerous than -s?
[03:18] <dr_willis> and the installer can reformat.. so no need to do it beforhand
[03:18] <ladder99> im new why use the -i or -s
[03:18] <dr_willis> rcconf:  thes a site that detailsit.. google for 'ubuntu root shell the right way' i cant find the link
[03:18] <ladder99> "new"
[03:19] <dr_willis> -i and -s set up different envioments
[03:19] <dr_willis>  !sudo
[03:19] <rcconf> dr_willis: k tks
[03:19] <dr_willis> i raly notice them being different
[03:20] <ladder99> sudo lets you run as root but why the -i or -s
[03:20] <Stingray88> this is way too confusing
[03:20] <dr_willis> to get a 'shell'
[03:20] <dr_willis> not a one time commnd
[03:20] <ladder99> -s gives you a shell
[03:20] <Stingray88> I added a USB drive before and it was not this difficult
[03:21] <dr_willis> Stingray88:  if you just access it in the fm. it will mount on demand.
[03:21] <ladder99> im new to linux
[03:21] <dr_willis> you want it mounted at boot   add a fstab entry.. its not that hard.
[03:21] <dimas_> does my 937,7 mib of ram be the reason i am having problems with letancy when i use jack?
[03:22] <Stingray88> dr_willis: what is fm? I want it to be automatically mounted at boot. And the last time I set this up I did not touch fstab
[03:22] <ladder99> but know a little unix and relearning
[03:22] <Abhijit> ladder99, sudo -i logins to root
[03:22] <dr_willis> Stingray88:  you made an entry to fstab somehow.. thats how its done
[03:22] <Stingray88> dr_willis: no, because I'm looking at it right now, and my other drive is not precent in that file, but it mounts automatically
[03:23] <Stingray88> dr_willis: present*
[03:23] <usr13> Stingray88: fstab - static information about the filesystems
[03:23] <dr_willis> what fs is it Stingray88
[03:23] <ladder99> abhijit thank you
[03:23] <Stingray88> dr_willis: ext4
[03:24] <dr_willis> then you accessed it in gnome file manager and it mounted it. would be my guess
[03:24] <usr13> Stingray88: Do you want it to stay mounted? As in mount when you boot and stay mounted?
[03:24] <dr_willis> check mount command
[03:24] <usr13> Stingray88: Or ....?
[03:24] <Stingray88> dr_willis: what I did was done in terminal
[03:24] <funkeyy> HI all! ive really a strange Problem over Here... i can execute "/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/Equis/MetaStock/MsWin.exe" in a gnome-Panel quicklauncher.. but if i run it in alt+F2 or in terminal it would give me an err. "DLL9X.dll missing".. wtf?!
[03:24] <clcto> Stingray88: what do you have against fstab?
[03:25] <Stingray88> c1cto: I don't know how to use it
[03:25] <usr13> Stingray88: Is this a USB drive?
[03:25] <clcto> Stingray88: then learn ... man fstab
[03:25] <dr_willis> its well doxumentd...
[03:25] <Stingray88> usr13: yes
[03:25] <clcto> and its an l
[03:25] <usr13> Stingray88: Are you ok with just mounting on demand?
[03:25] <Stingray88> It may be well documented... but to me, most things in linux are gibberish unfortunately
[03:25] <Stingray88> no usr13
[03:25] <Stingray88> I need it mounted always
[03:26] <clcto> Stingray88: they are until you learn what they mean
[03:26] <usr13> Stingray88: Then create a fstab entry for it.
[03:26] <Stingray88> Heres the thing
[03:26] <usr13> Stingray88: man fstab
[03:26] <usr13> read ...
[03:26] <Stingray88> I already have one drive setup like I want this new one setup, and it is not present in fstab
[03:26] <clcto> usr13: that is hard for some people who want everything done for them
[03:26] <dr_willis> theres some gui tool for fstab but it had issues in the past
[03:26] <usr13> Stingray88: What is the mount point for it?
[03:27] <zi> sudokode - How do I install the pacman game?
[03:27] <Stingray88> usr13: vol
[03:27] <usr13> Stingray88: mount | pastebinit
[03:27] <Stingray88> usr13: I mean, it's under media
[03:27] <usr13> Stingray88: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[03:28] <dr_willis> Stingray88:  i would guess you are confused about the other drive.   and gnome is mounting it at login somehow. thats not the same as at bootup.
[03:28] <Stingray88> dr_willis I don't know what gnome is
[03:28] <usr13> Stingray88: gnome is the window manager.
[03:29] <zi> o.O
[03:29] <rww> usr13: GNOME is not a window manager
[03:29] <thedevil> Stramash: a desktop environment
[03:29] <rww> metacity and compiz are window managers
[03:29] <html-inprogress> hi
[03:29] <thedevil> *Stingray88
[03:29] <ladder99> does anyone have links about moovida
[03:30] <zelozelos> im a little confused is emerald theme manager for changing the themes (like the themes in change background)?
[03:30] <dr_willis> ladder99:  check its homepage?
[03:30] <dr_willis> emerald is a window decorator for compiz
[03:30] <dr_willis> it just does window borders/titlebars
[03:30] <ladder99> thank you again
[03:31] <usr13> Ok yea,  gnome is a desktop environment / graphical user interface
[03:31] <dr_willis> moovidia has some neat features but i use boxxee
[03:31] <usr13> It's a little more than a window manager nowdays
[03:31] <dr_willis> emerald is basically a dead project also.
[03:32] <ladder99> dr_willis it is only windows based??
[03:32] <dr_willis> ladder99:  what?
[03:32] <clcto> usr13: a little
[03:32] <clcto> ? more like a s---ton
[03:33] <ladder99> thats what the homepage said
[03:33] <dr_willis> ive use moovidia on ubuntu in the past.. if thats what you mean
[03:33] <usr13> clcto: Ok, it is a window manager and more.  Would you care to define gnome for us?
[03:33] <dr_willis> !info moovidia
[03:33] <clcto> usr13: its not a wm, at all
[03:34] <dr_willis> it may be dead for linuc now.
[03:34] <clcto> its a desktop environment. it contains a wm and applications for a "complete user experience"
[03:34] <dr_willis> i use boxee and xbmc these days
[03:34] <usr13> clcto: I just said that.
[03:34] <ladder99> dr i like the boxxee idea
[03:34] <usr13> "gnome is a desktop environment / graphical user interface"
[03:35] <dr_willis> i like xbmc over boxee  in some ways
[03:35] <clcto> usr13: missed tha
[03:35] <clcto> t
[03:35] <dr_willis> !gnome
[03:35] <dr_willis> ;)
[03:36] <thedevil> domo arigato mister ubottu
[03:36] <quittix3> How come when I try to open any windows program with wine it doesnt work?
[03:37] <ladder99> scott-ian should be in detention
[03:37] <bazhang> ladder99, stop that
[03:37] <dr_willis> quittix3:  try a simple..  wine notepad.exe  from a terminal. look for error messages
[03:37] <quittix3> it just says starting the program in the programs bar then dissapears, is wine even suposed to work?
[03:38] <quittix3> notepad starts up just fine
[03:38] <ladder99> bazhang scott-ian is a member of the band anthrax
[03:38] <bazhang> !ot | ladder99
[03:38] <dr_willis> quittix3:  try from terminal.. look for error messages.
[03:38] <clcto> quittix3: wine isnt perfect. not all programs work with it
[03:39] <ladder99> bazhang no harm meant
[03:39] <bazhang> ladder99, stop the chit chat here
[03:39] <quittix3> dr_willis: there are no error messages when starting notepad from terminal
[03:39] <clcto> quittix3: what about the programs that fail
[03:39] <bazhang> quittix3, check the appdb
[03:39] <dr_willis> so it works?
[03:41] <quittix3> im trying to play this game: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/ and other people have had success playing it on wine
[03:41] <bazhang> quittix3, /join #winehq for help with particular apps
[03:41] <quittix3> k
[03:42] <ladder99> bazhang is not cool
[03:42] <duckx0r> #php
[03:42] <dr_willis> A lot of the time it depends on specifi c versions. Of wine or apps.
[03:45] <gsilvers> Hi does anyone know where the best place to go for a question specific to installs on a netbook / atom chipset?
[03:45] <john_rambo> ALT+F2 opens no run dialog ....using Natty Minimal ...ICEWM
[03:47] <Devil_Pumbba> hi guys
[03:48] <Devil_Pumbba> what best player .rmvb in ubuntu 10.10?
[03:51] <rww> gsilvers: There isn't a separate channel for netbooks that I know of. Just ask here.
[03:51] <hwq001> Devil_Pumbba:SMPLAY, I think
[03:53] <thedevil> Devil_Pumbba: idk about that file format but i like mplayer, you can tell it what video output or audio output to use
[03:53] <dr_willis> vlc, mplayer, most can play them Devil_Pumbba
[03:54] <Logan> Hello?
[03:54] <thedevil> hi
[03:54] <dr_willis> hello...
[03:54] <Logan> Is anyone on?
[03:54] <Guest88134> That can help me?
[03:54] <dr_willis> !ask
[03:54] <Devil_Pumbba> dr_willis is very good, vlc?
[03:55] <dr_willis> vlc works great
[03:55] <Devil_Pumbba> tks
[03:55] <Guest88134> How do I update java?
[03:55] <dr_willis> a must have on linux and windows
[03:55] <Guest88134> I've tried for about an hour now
[03:55] <Devil_Pumbba> hum
[03:55] <Devil_Pumbba> not windows...argggghhhh
[03:55] <Guest88134> And,  I have got nowhere
[03:55] <Devil_Pumbba> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[03:55] <Guest88134> It's Linux Ubuntu
[03:55] <Devil_Pumbba> LOL
[03:55] <Guest88134> 11.0.4
[03:56] <dr_willis> Guest88134:  how dod you install java
[03:56] <Guest88134> What do you mean?
[03:56] <Guest88134> I think it came with it in an update
[03:56] <dr_willis> icedtea java in default repos. sun java in partners repo...
[03:56] <Guest88134> But I have version 6
[03:56] <Guest88134> And The newest is 22
[03:57] <Guest88134> So?
[03:57] <dr_willis> what needs the 'latest'
[03:57] <dr_willis> the repo versions work fine for most people
[03:57] <Devil_Pumbba> sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[03:58] <dr_willis> some apps need the sun version
[03:58] <dr_willis> oracle/sun ;)
[03:58] <Guest88134> Ok
[03:58] <Guest88134> I'll try it
[03:58] <Devil_Pumbba> or down the .bin in oracle site
[03:59] <dr_willis> so.. java -version gives?
[03:59] <Guest88134> Let me check
[03:59] <dr_willis> using the .bin can break things
[03:59] <slacker-> szal: grml is the way to go. the only thing that sucks is that the terminal is too big and I can't see the bottom half, so I have to "reset" every 5 commands :)
[03:59] <Devil_Pumbba> visite www.italofernandesss.blogspot.com see how to do
[03:59] <rww> Devil_Pumbba: Don't advertise here.
[04:00] <Guest88134> java version "1.6.0_22"
[04:00] <Guest88134> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.10.2) (6b22-1.10.2-0ubuntu1~11.04.1)
[04:00] <Guest88134> OpenJDK Client VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode, sharing)
[04:00] <Guest88134> There
[04:01] <FloodBot1> Guest88134: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:01] <Guest88134> Tell me what I need to do please.
[04:01] <dr_willis> so you have java installed. the gpl version.. whats not working with it...
[04:02] <Guest88134> It's Not the newest one
[04:02] <Guest88134> I can't run most java things corectly with this version
[04:02] <dr_willis> so?
[04:02] <dr_willis> whats not working with it...
[04:02] <Guest88134> It's slow
[04:02] <dr_willis> like what exactly is not working
[04:02] <Guest88134> I've updated long ago on a linux computer
[04:02] <joulez> use the sun version
[04:02] <Guest88134> How would I do that?
[04:03] <dr_willis> !java
[04:03] <dr_willis> install the java from the partners repo
[04:03] <dr_willis> !partner
[04:03] <wildbat> Guest88134: you are running OpenJDK ~ live with it or use Sun JRE ~
[04:04] <Zimopik> hey guys my mouse isn't working, I'm not sure if it
[04:04] <kroq-gar78> hey anybody willing to help me trying to "give back" to ubuntu? I want to fix something on the wishlist but I don't know where to start. the bug is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam/+bug/110287
[04:04] <Zimopik> is my model or not, please help?
[04:05] <dr_willis> kroq-gar78:  fix? its just a 1 line edit of the bashrc
[04:05] <kroq-gar78> or /etc/environment
[04:05] <kroq-gar78> dr_willis: but how do I push it back? I'm really new to this
[04:05] <Guest88134> Umm
[04:05] <html-inprogress>  does anyone know how to maake a cloud storeage >> run off of old computers?
[04:05] <dr_willis> its not in the default path for reasone. ;)
[04:05] <kroq-gar78> dr_willis: why not?
[04:06] <Wally> html-inprogress: Mac SE?
[04:06] <Guest88134> Ok I still need help
[04:06] <JohnSS_> I'm addicted to Ubuntu. What is the cure?
[04:06] <dr_willis> businesses dont want workers to have access to games
[04:06] <Guest88134> I need to update java please tell me how to do this
[04:06]  * Wally looks up the Ubuntu Cloud business
[04:06] <JohnSS_> That's not true!  Google does!
[04:06] <dr_willis> not a lot of games are even in there any more either
[04:06] <thunder1212> I am interested in virtual computing. I want to use my pc with five different users with separate monitors, keyboards and mouse(KVM switch i believe..) i came across these sites which offer this, http://www.userful.com/products/userful-multiseat http://www.ncomputing.com/product-useries i want to know that is it really cost effective and usable in the long run..? Is it possible for me to set up this kind of setup on my own, using free software(if a
[04:06] <thunder1212> vailable). what kind of hardware would be needed for this..
[04:06] <kroq-gar78> dr_willis: can't you just cd to it?
[04:06] <FloodBot1> thunder1212: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:06] <html-inprogress> Wally,  ?? i never heard of it
[04:07] <dr_willis> kroq-gar78:  you can, or add it to your ow users path
[04:07] <html-inprogress> Wally, whats that ?
[04:07] <Wally> html-inprogress: nevermind.. I thought this was the offtopic channel.
[04:07] <Guest88134> Can somebody tell me?
[04:07] <Wally> html-inprogress: why won't it run on old computers?
[04:07] <kroq-gar78> dr_willis: so why is it even on launchpad anymore if there's a reason why it hasn't happened?
[04:08] <Zimopik> Guys I'm really stuck in the dust, I want to use ubuntu but I can't if my mouse doesn't work :'( Does anyone know what the problem might be? 10.04 LTS
[04:08] <html-inprogress> Wally,  cuz noone cuz tell me how  to make one
[04:08] <dr_willis> i got a whole 7 games in /usr/games
[04:08] <Guest88134> Come on guys...
[04:08] <Guest88134> How hard is it to tell me?
[04:08] <Zimopik> @Guest for java?
[04:09] <Wally> Guest88134: please be patient :-)
[04:09] <Guest88134> Patient?
[04:09] <Guest88134> Pfft
[04:09] <Guest88134> Yes Zim
[04:09] <Zimopik> @guest Idk, there really unresponsive ._. It should be as easy as looking at what the package is called for the version you want and then typing in sudo apt-get install (package name) in the terminal
[04:09] <sd> Zimopik if its a wireless mouse maybe need new batteries??
[04:09] <dr_willis> get java.bin from java homepage if you must have the latest.. was said earlier
[04:10] <Guest88134> Dr willis then what?
[04:10] <dr_willis> but it can break things
[04:10] <kroq-gar78> Guest881
[04:10] <Guest88134> I get it downloaded then what do i do?
[04:10] <dr_willis> install it......
[04:10] <Zimopik> @sd No, I was using it on my windows box just a while ago. It's a RAT 9, if that helps at all.
[04:10] <Guest88134> How?
[04:10] <Guest88134> How do I install it?
[04:10] <dr_willis> follow their install docs. you run it.
[04:10] <joulez> lol
[04:10] <Zimopik> @Guest it should just install, go to applications->accesories->terminal
[04:10] <Guest88134> Ok, I'll try
[04:10] <kroq-gar78> *Guest88134: or just do apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras or apt-get install openjdk-java6-jre
[04:10] <bazhang> !enter | Guest88134
[04:11] <Zimopik> @let me find the package name for Jre6
[04:11] <sd> don't know sorry just guessing
[04:11] <Zimopik> @guest*
[04:11] <dr_willis> i doubt if you need that bin... but you seem determined that you do...
[04:11] <kroq-gar78> Zimopik: openjdk-java6-jre sun-java6-jre
[04:11] <dr_willis> !java
[04:11] <Zimopik> @guest it should be openjdk-6-jre
[04:12] <Zimopik> Actually, just use kroqs list
[04:12] <Guest88134> Willis you don't seem to understand the importance of updating software
[04:12] <Zimopik> @sd its no problem ;) thanks anyways ^^
[04:12] <dr_willis> Guest88134:  you dont understand the ubuntu packing system.
[04:12] <dr_willis> !latest
[04:12] <Zimopik> Doesn't matter, just hear to answer questions, right? xD
[04:12] <kroq-gar78> dr_willis: +1
[04:12] <bazhang> !partner | Guest88134
[04:13] <bazhang> !java | Guest88134
[04:13] <Guest88134> Then explain why I don't need need to update?
[04:13] <bazhang> Guest88134, enable partner then install java
[04:13] <Guest88134> If I don't update everything java related is slow and freezes
[04:13] <Guest88134> How?
[04:13] <Guest88134> !partner
[04:13] <dr_willis> Guest88134:  this is why we keep saying use the 'partner' repository.  the latest may be in there.
[04:13] <bazhang> Guest88134, I just told you
[04:13] <joulez> look hes learning
[04:14] <Guest88134> Ok nothing happened
[04:14] <Zimopik> Anyways, I'd really appreciate if any of you guys could point me in a direction that might get my mouse working... It wasn't working in 11.04 either, and my window manager seems to keep failing if I have compiz installed...
[04:14] <kroq-gar78> that doesn't install java
[04:14] <dr_willis> you read what the bot says..
[04:14] <bazhang> Guest88134, did you add the partner repo?
[04:14] <Guest88134> Yes I typed in what you said to
[04:14] <Guest88134> And, nothing happened
[04:14] <bazhang> Guest88134, what command
[04:14] <Delrayne1> Got a few questions when someone has the time.
[04:14] <dr_willis> what did you type?
[04:15] <Guest88134> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[04:15] <bazhang> Delrayne1, ask
[04:15] <Zimopik> @Guest sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[04:15] <kroq-gar78> Zimopik: don't know much about mouses/mice, but is it usb?
[04:15] <Abhijit> Delrayne1, just ask and wait
[04:15] <dr_willis> update, then install ;)
[04:15] <Zimopik> Wouldn't that update ubuntu fine? If not then isn't there an unstable repo or something?
[04:15] <bazhang> Guest88134, sudo apt-get update
[04:15] <Zimopik> @kroq I tried a wired and wireless
[04:15] <dr_willis> bbl. work time
[04:16] <kroq-gar78> Zimopik: what type? ps/2 or usb?
[04:16] <Guest88134> Ok, nothing happened
[04:16] <Guest88134> What if you did vnc?
[04:16] <dr_willis> add repo, update, then install packages
[04:16] <Zimopik> @Kroq usb, it doesn't work with my wireless either
[04:16] <Guest88134> I'm up for it if someone can help me
[04:16] <bazhang> after update Guest88134 install the packages
[04:17] <Delrayne1> Alright, so I'm wanting to reformat my laptop hdd and wipe it clean and install ubuntu, my only problem is that the monitor on my laptop doesn't work, so I have it connected via a HDMI port to a flatscreen monitor and basically use it as a desktop...when I reformat will my HDMI port still work even though the drivers are technically erased? Or am I wrong in assuming that it won't.
[04:17] <kroq-gar78> Zimopik: forums? if ppl on here don't answer after a while, I suggest using ubuntuforums.org (they're official)
[04:17] <Zimopik> My comp model is Pavillion 6777cb, if that helps any :)
[04:17] <dr_willis> i forget the exact package name now..
[04:17] <Zimopik> @kroq thanks for trying to help at least ^^ I really appreciate it xD
[04:17] <Guest88134> Come on Dr.Willis can you vnc me?
[04:17] <Guest88134> I really need this fixed
[04:17] <Zimopik> And yeah, I'll prolly go to forums later :P
[04:18] <kroq-gar78> Zimopik: yeah i no expert, but they're MIGHT be people here who could solve it :P
[04:18] <joulez> hehe
[04:18] <newton> newton
[04:18] <dr_willis> Delrayne1:  i have had laptops default to external. some needed the fn-x keys to enable external on bootup. some had bios options to use either.. or to just use external.  so it depends on the laptop
[04:18] <abu> j
[04:18] <Zimopik> @kroq Lol xD I'm certainly no expert, thats why I'm here ;) It does take a while to get someone to try and help though :)
[04:19] <dr_willis> Guest88134:  no i can not vnc from my phone
[04:19] <Delrayne1> dr_willis: I wish I understood more than just bios in that...but my laptop is a dell studio 15 if that helps at all.
[04:19] <Guest88134> Ok well can anyone else?
[04:19] <Zimopik> @Guest We can try and walk you through it... I can't VNC right now either
[04:19] <dr_willis> Guest88134:  use the package manager tools now to install the proper sun java packages. i dont know their names
[04:20] <extraclassic> Guest88134: i'll give you the steps.....(1) Open Synaptic
[04:20] <Guest88134> Ok, I'll try
[04:20] <fedy> hello i have setup a dual boot machine with ubuntu and windows,and I have a security question on how to setup password protect for the Grub boot loader
[04:20] <kroq-gar78> Guest88134: did you do "sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre"?
[04:20] <bazhang> Guest88134, open up synaptic package manager, search for the java plugins
[04:20] <dr_willis> ;)
[04:20] <Zimopik> @Guest do what kroq said if you haven't xD
[04:20] <joulez> fedy: i didn't think you could do that with grub.
[04:20] <Guest88134> Ok I am
[04:20] <kroq-gar78> Zimopik: lol
[04:21] <bazhang> sun-java6- Guest88134
[04:21] <fedy> I read something on the guide like this /home/owner/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[04:21] <extraclassic> Guest88134: (2) go to Settings -> Repositories -> Other Software
[04:21] <fedy> joulez i dont know u might be right
[04:21] <joulez> fedy: try #grub
[04:21] <Zimopik> @kroq @Guest Yeah xD btw, using sudo apt-get update should update all of your packages to latest adn greatest in default repo
[04:21] <Arodnap> ola povao
[04:21] <bazhang> extraclassic, he has the partner enabled
[04:22] <Guest88134> Ok..umm
[04:22] <Arodnap> alguem ai utiliza o iptables?
[04:22] <Guest88134> I don't see it
[04:22] <sd> Zimopik i had the same problem a while back and i wish i could remember what i did, but it was a long time ago like in ubuntu 8.04 or something like that found answer in the forums dont remember where :(
[04:22] <fedy> okay I check it out ty u Joulez
[04:22] <joulez> fedy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7353
[04:22] <bazhang> Guest88134, did you update the sources.list?
[04:22] <Guest88134> Yes
[04:22] <kroq-gar78> Guest88134: don't see what? I'm talking about terminal commands
[04:22] <Zimopik> @sd It's fine xD I'll look later, someones got to have found a solution ;)
[04:22] <bazhang> Guest88134, then search for sun-java6 in the package manager
[04:22] <Zimopik> @Guest yep. Go to applications->accesories->terminal
[04:23] <Zimopik> @Guest and then go and type in sudo apt-get install update
[04:23] <bazhang> kroq-gar78, thats not the correct package
[04:23] <kroq-gar78> bazhang: yes it is, for openjdk it is
[04:23] <bazhang> kroq-gar78, he wants the sun-java6 plugins
[04:23] <kroq-gar78> bazhang: oh :O
[04:23] <Guest88134> Umm
[04:23] <Zimopik> Ohhhh xD I feel dumb
[04:23] <Guest88134> I'm not understanding
[04:24] <Guest88134> I just need to update java for minecraft
[04:24] <Zimopik> Then do this
[04:24] <Guest88134> And it's lagging because its outdated
[04:24] <Zimopik> @Guest open up the software center, type in icedtea
[04:24] <Zimopik> and install that
[04:24] <imperfect-> Anyone seen screen just suddeenly stop accept ctrl- commands
[04:24] <Guest88134> Ok
[04:24] <imperfect-> i can't get like ctrl-a-d,k,n anything to work
[04:24] <imperfect-> all of the sudden
[04:24] <imperfect-> no idea why
[04:24] <imperfect-> It's driving me nuts
[04:25] <Guest88134> I already have it
[04:25] <kroq-gar78> maybe Guest needs sun java?
[04:25] <Zimopik> @Guest then you should be up to date... OpenJDK 6 is what you need. I have that and Minecraft is running fine for me xD
[04:25] <html-inprogress> whats the commandline for installing flash
[04:25] <kroq-gar78> Guest88134: "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin"
[04:26] <html-inprogress> thanks
[04:26] <kroq-gar78> html-inprogress: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" should do it...
[04:26] <Guest88134> Ok...
[04:26] <rww> html-inprogress: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:26] <Guest88134> I'll try running it again
[04:27] <rww> kroq-gar78: ubuntu-restricted-extras installs a significant amount of unrelated other stuff, and is not a good recommendation for people asking for specific things
[04:27] <kroq-gar78> rww: oops ur right. thats just what I usually do :/
[04:28] <html-inprogress> rww, thats for  Guest88134
[04:28] <rww> html-inprogress: what is?
[04:28] <kroq-gar78> html-inprogress: not really (well i guess it can be for you AND Guest*)
[04:29] <html-inprogress> the command line you just gave me
[04:29] <bazhang> html-inprogress, you wanted to install flash, its for you
[04:29] <Guest88134> Ok
[04:29] <ball> How can I ask Ubuntu for the cpu or system temperature?
[04:29] <Guest88134> Nothing changed
[04:29] <rww> !lm-sensors | ball
[04:29] <bazhang> !sensors | ball
[04:29] <ball> Thanks
[04:29] <Guest88134> Can i please get someone to show me in vnc?
[04:29] <Guest88134> I don't understand any of what your saying
[04:29] <rww> Guest88134: for what it's worth, it's rather likely that Minecraft is lagging because Minecraft does not run as well on Linux on most hardware as it does on Windows.
[04:30] <html-inprogress> bazhang,  no, i just dont know by heart the commandline for flash
[04:30] <rww> Guest88134: regardless of java version and creator
[04:30] <kroq-gar78> rww: hey that's what I was going to say :P
[04:30] <MathiasRodriguez> Hey
[04:30] <Guest88134> rww, No I had minecraft run at 100 fps on this computer before on linux
[04:30] <Wally> Anyone got any experience with Setting up Ubuntu to host a 3G internet connection then route it out through an Airport Express?
[04:30] <Guest88134> Then I formated my hard drive and re-installed in linux
[04:31] <Guest88134> And now I need to update java
[04:31] <Zimopik> @rww is prolly right. Last linux set up I had when i was dabbling with linux didn't run minecraft very well xD
[04:31] <html-inprogress> Guest88134,  what os and version ,,, ?  and wine ?
[04:31] <MathiasRodriguez> GNOME or XFSC?
[04:31] <Guest88134> I'm not using wine
[04:31] <Wally> Should it be as simple as " Navigating to the tab titled "IPv4 Settings" and changing the Method to "Shared to other computers"
[04:31] <kroq-gar78> MathiasRodriguez: you mean XFCE?
[04:31] <Guest88134> Linux Ubuntu 11.0.4
[04:31] <MathiasRodriguez> Yeah, typo
[04:31] <kroq-gar78> :)
[04:32] <rww> Guest88134: Did you upgrade Java on your previous installation?
[04:32] <Guest88134> Yes, But I forgot how
[04:32] <rww> Guest88134: because the version of Java that's in the repositories is the version supported by us. If you're using or trying to use some other version, you're on your own.
[04:33] <Guest88134> Hmm
[04:33] <Guest88134> I don't know how I did it last time
[04:33] <cliff> Does anyone know of a way to keep windows from being on more than one viewport at a time if dragged offscreen?
[04:34] <kroq-gar78> cliff: nvidia?
[04:34] <cliff> ati kroq-gar78
[04:34] <cliff> at least I think kroq-gar78
[04:34] <kroq-gar78> kroq-gar78: oh sry I only know NVidia (unless the config programs are the same....)
[04:35] <Guest88134> Ok
[04:35] <Guest88134> I'll try this again
[04:35] <ball> rebooting,..
[04:35] <jeeves__> does anyone know what channel is out there for Excel formula help?
[04:35] <Guest88134> I ahev java version 6
[04:35] <Guest88134> I need version 22
[04:35] <cliff> kroq-gar78 is there a way in compiz config?
[04:35] <Guest88134> How do I achieve this?
[04:35] <kroq-gar78> cliff: do you have proprietary drivers or what? if you do, go to the add hardware program and check (it says there)
[04:35] <MathiasRodriguez> Good Day!
[04:36] <extraclassic> Guest88134: I'll tell you every step if you listen carefully
[04:36] <kroq-gar78> cliff: it's under System->Add Hardware (or something similar)
[04:36] <Guest88134> Ok...
[04:36] <MathiasRodriguez> Guest88134: What are you trying to accomplish?
[04:36] <Guest88134> Update java
[04:36] <Guest88134> That's all.
[04:36] <extraclassic> Guest88134: if you have openjdk, uninstall it
[04:36] <Guest88134> Nothing more.
[04:36] <rww> Guest88134: There is no Java version 22, and as I just told you, the version that's in the repositories (that you apparently already have) is _the only one we support_.
[04:36] <Guest88134> How?
[04:36] <kroq-gar78> MathiasRodriguez: he wants it cuz Minecraft runs REALLY slow (according to him)
[04:36] <rww> which means if you want support with another one, go elsewhere.
[04:37] <extraclassic> Guest88134: open Synaptic
[04:37] <kroq-gar78> rww: i think he means v6 update 22
[04:37] <MathiasRodriguez> Ah, I see
[04:37] <Guest88134> Yeah, Thats it I think
[04:37] <mahir256> jeeves__: #libreoffice and #OpenOffice.org should have something
[04:37] <alesan> hi! I've read Thunderbird 5 has been released. How can I get it on my 11.04?
[04:37] <cliff> kroq-gar78 in 11.04?
[04:37] <kroq-gar78> cliff: in 11.04 just open up dash and search hardware
[04:37] <jeeves__> mahir256, thanks
[04:37] <yudi12> how to dual boot win 7 and ubuntu with grub legacy, both are on different HDDs, I am guessing I need to make the ubuntu HDD primary in the BIOS and then run grub-update. Will this pick up
[04:38] <Guest88134> Ok I've opened it up
[04:38] <kroq-gar78> cliff: or not... drivers maybe? type "drivers" in the dash
[04:38] <rww> kroq-gar78: considering that the supported version of sun-java6-jre for natty is 6.24...
[04:38] <extraclassic> Guest88134: search for openjdk and see if it's marked green for installed
[04:38] <cliff> kroq-gar78: under additional drivers it says I'm not using proprietary drivers
[04:38] <kroq-gar78> rww: isn't 10.10 or 10.04 u22?
[04:39] <rww> kroq-gar78: they said they're on 11.04
[04:39] <kroq-gar78> cliff: then i can't help (sorry). I guess you can play around with compiz config
[04:39] <rww> 6.24 to 6.22 is not an upgrade either way
[04:39] <kroq-gar78> rww: oops didn't catche that :(
[04:39] <Guest88134> Yes it's installed
[04:39] <cliff> Why is it enabled by default that you can have one window span multiple viewports?
[04:40] <extraclassic> Guest88134: right click it and mark for removal, then click apply
[04:40] <rww> Guest88134: I think I've been more than clear at this point. Your Java version is not affecting your Minecraft performance. We only have one supported version of Sun Java. If you're not happy with this version, please use another venue to change that.
[04:40] <Nolok> how do I know which desktop environment am I running ?
[04:40] <kroq-gar78> cliff: if you don't have compiz config already, do "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager" in the commandline
[04:40] <kroq-gar78> cliff: do you want a window to span multpile or no?
[04:40] <Nolok> I was running Gnome, today when I booted the computer, the looks have changed :S
[04:40] <kroq-gar78> Nolok: what color?  Sometimes I'll drag a window around and it will accidentally be on another workspace so when I switch to the new workspace there will be like a tenth of a window hanging over on the screen and I'll have to change back to the other workspace and resize it. It's annoying.
[04:41] <Nolok> kroq-gar78: can I confirm that from the terminal with some command ? also how do I change now ?
[04:41] <rww> kroq-gar78: no, they're running without theming applied, probably because of a gnome-settings-daemon issue. All supported versions of Ubuntu use GNOME 2.
[04:41] <mahir256> alesan: then apt-get update thunderbird
[04:42] <extraclassic> Guest88134: go to Settings -> Repositories and click the tab that says Other Software
[04:42] <rsv> i want to install a execuatable in 10.10 and it checks if the linux version is 10.04. how to fool the application that it is running on 10.04 and not on 10.10
[04:42] <kroq-gar78> rww: i think you misunderstood me. he asked what environment he was running (AFAIK NOT trying to diagnose a problem
[04:42] <kroq-gar78> cliff: lemme open ccsm
[04:42] <alesan> mahir256, are you sure that command is correct?
[04:42] <mahir256> rsv: what executable are you trying to install?
[04:42] <nutcase068> just wanna know something.... can i replace a ubuntu install from 1 pc to a next would it work?
[04:42] <rsv> some properity installer
[04:43] <kroq-gar78> mahir: i think you mean "sudo apt-get install thunderbird"
[04:43] <alesan> mahir256, are you sure thunderbird 5 is available for ubuntu 11.04?
[04:43] <Guest88134> Ok I have
[04:43] <kroq-gar78> mahir: not update
[04:43] <kroq-gar78> alesan: it is through the thunderbird ppa
[04:43] <alesan> kroq-gar78, ok so what do I need to do? what is ppa?
[04:43] <extraclassic> Guest88134: look at the entries and there's one that will end in partner and you have to make sure it's checked
[04:43] <mahir256> kroq-gar78: oh yeah, thanks for correcting
[04:43] <Nolok> kroq-gar78: can I confirm that from the terminal with some command ? also how do I change now ?
[04:43] <yykmaidou> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:43] <kroq-gar78> Nolok: to change, logout, look at bottom (where says desktop manager) and click "UBuntu" (not "classic")
[04:44] <Guest88134> Ok I did
[04:44] <yykmaidou> whats going on
[04:44] <kroq-gar78> alesan: you want thunderbirfd 5?
[04:44] <Nolok> kroq-gar78: ok
[04:44] <Nolok> thankjs
[04:44] <rsv> is there any gui based scp tool in ubutu
[04:44] <alesan> kroq-gar78, yes, Thunderbird 5. I currently use 3.X
[04:44] <extraclassic> Guest88134: close that window and in Synaptic hit Reload
[04:44] <nutcase068> ^^?^^
[04:44] <Guest88134> I have
[04:45] <kroq-gar78> alesan: ok lemme get the link..
[04:45] <extraclassic> Guest88134: search for java6
[04:45] <alesan> kroq-gar78, THANKS!
[04:45] <Guest50939> u´hi
[04:45] <Guest88134> Ok
[04:45] <extraclassic> Guest88134: you want to install sun-java6-jre
[04:46] <Guest50939> under ubuntu my Lan doesn't working - i use a netbook .... is this a strict problem with netbooks OR WHAT CAN I DO ?
[04:46] <Guest88134> Ok, I'll retry this
[04:46] <kroq-gar78> cliff: look somewhere in "window management" in ccsm
[04:46] <Guest88134> One moment
[04:46] <nutcase068> just wanna know something.... can i replace a ubuntu install from 1 pc to a next would it work?
[04:46] <clcto> rww: my b, i am used to archlinux
[04:47] <clcto> #archlinux that is
[04:47] <kroq-gar78> alesan: here is the address https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable
[04:47] <Abhijit> nutcase068, yes.
[04:47] <cliff> kroq-gar78: what's the difference between put and viewport switcher?
[04:48] <kroq-gar78> alesan: to add the "ppa" (basically a program repository) open up a terminal and type (or paste) "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable" and then "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:48] <cliff> kroq-gar78: I mean the 'put' category in window management and 'viewport switcher' in desktop
[04:48] <kroq-gar78> cliff: lemme see... not an expert (or even close to) in compiz, but I can see
[04:48] <kroq-gar78> or try
[04:48] <kroq-gar78> to see
[04:49] <kroq-gar78> lol "a is now known as c"
[04:49]  * nutcase068 thanks Abhijit a million
[04:49] <Guest88134> ..
[04:49] <Guest88134> Oh well
[04:49] <Guest88134> I'll figure this out later I guess
[04:50] <extraclassic> Guest88134: there's nothing left to figure out
[04:50] <Guest88134> Your probably right
[04:50] <Guest88134> But I'm hard headed
[04:50] <kroq-gar78> cliff: I think switcher is the actual SWITCHING vs. place is putting it in a certain spot
[04:50] <Guest88134> So, I
[04:51] <kroq-gar78> alesan: did it work?
[04:51] <Guest88134> 'll keep trying until I rage quit.
[04:51] <Guest88134> Well later
[04:51] <extraclassic> Guest88134: the other option is this - http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en
[04:51] <TreeStryder> Where is the best place to vote, or any other constructive way,  share opinions concerning Unity?
[04:51] <alesan> kroq-gar78, I'm reading hold on
[04:51] <bazhang> TreeStryder, #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:51] <kroq-gar78> alesan: oops sry I thought you went AFK :P
[04:52] <kroq-gar78> TreeStryder: or launchpad (bugs, etc...)
[04:52] <alesan> AFK?
[04:52] <kroq-gar78> alesan: away from keyboard
[04:52] <alesan> nono
[04:53] <joulez> reboot and powerdown.
[04:54] <kroq-gar78> alesan: you don't have to read the webpage, just the post I made on here
[04:55] <TreeStryder> Thank you, bazhang and kroq-gar78. I'll see what I can find.
[04:56] <kroq-gar78> TreeStryder: welcome the non-support ubuntu forum threads (near the bottom of the homepage) also work
[05:00] <yykmaidou> join #kubuntu
[05:00] <yykmaidou> join channel#kubuntu
[05:01] <yykmaidou> join channel #kubuntu
[05:02] <rww> yykmaidou: /join #kubuntu
[05:03] <dr_willis> heh . ill take irc basics for $100 alex.
[05:03] <rww> everyone has to start somewhere
[05:04] <kroq-gar78> :)
[05:04] <magicalchamp> lol sorry
[05:04] <rww> magicalchamp: dr_willis wasn't talking about you :)
[05:04] <magicalchamp> oh
[05:04] <kroq-gar78> lol
[05:04] <magicalchamp> lol
[05:04] <dr_willis> ;^)
[05:04] <magicalchamp> so you guys like the new ubuntu ?
[05:05] <Gryllida> magicalchamp, indeed
[05:05] <dr_willis> unity fails to work properly for me.
[05:05] <magicalchamp> ubuntu has came a long way..
[05:05] <kroq-gar78> i think that's a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic, but this channel is SSOOOOOOOO quiet...
[05:05] <dr_willis> 'going boldly where no os has gone befor'
[05:05] <magicalchamp> yeah unity can give some problems, but most of the time it behaves.
[05:05] <kroq-gar78> +1
[05:06] <magicalchamp> oh this is support lol
[05:06] <magicalchamp> sorry
[05:06] <kroq-gar78> lol
[05:06] <dr_willis> unity is a work in progress. i had it tweaked where i could use it. but then had icon/menu curruption evrry time i opened a browser. not sure why
[05:06] <magicalchamp> unity 2d is nice
[05:07] <villa> I cannot surf any website, anyone who can tell me what is probably reason?
[05:07] <dr_willis> anyone else ever see that issue? i open chrome, or firefox, select browser, web surf a bit. mouse out. and the panel icone go all currupted
[05:07] <magicalchamp> you have not given you life to the penguin , I sense some windows love among you :P
[05:08] <dr_willis> villa:  first guess - dns server
[05:08] <kroq-gar78> magicalchamp: XDDDDD
[05:08] <kroq-gar78> villia: +1 dns server
[05:08] <magicalchamp> sorry , guys it's late here.. but anyway.. no sorry bro don't know what you are talking about?
[05:08] <dr_willis> villa:  second guess   proxy settings
[05:08] <kroq-gar78> but, if he didn't do that, then how would he be here?
[05:09] <kroq-gar78> villa: are you on a different computer than the one that cyou can't browse on?
[05:09] <magicalchamp> drivers? you install them? proprietary  or open source??
[05:09] <dr_willis> kroq-gar78:  ive seen irc clients work when browsers dont. could be they cache the ip.
[05:09] <magicalchamp> video*
[05:09] <villa> dns server is right, so what should the proxy be set?
[05:09] <kroq-gar78> dr_willis: learn something everyday, eh? :)
[05:09] <magicalchamp> <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:10] <thedevil> villa: are you working in offline mode
[05:10] <villa> I have checked, no
[05:10] <villa> it is online mode
[05:11] <bazhang> !ot | magicalchamp
[05:11] <villa> kroq-gar78, I can surf the IPv6 website
[05:11] <villa> so I am on the exact myself pc
[05:13] <villa> yep, I cannot just browse the ipv4 websites, then what is the problem?
[05:14] <thedevil> if i were you i would look in about:config if you are using firefox locate toolkit.networkmanger.disable and set to true
[05:15] <orwells-iphone> Hey
[05:15] <thedevil> hi
[05:15] <DizzyLizzy> I'm testing Ubuntu 11.04 from a USB stick right now. I'm tempted to switch from Debian 6.
[05:16] <magicalchamp> do it!
[05:16] <orwells-iphone> I haven't tried 11.04 yet
[05:16] <kroq-gar78> villa: wild guess - router prob? other comps work?
[05:16] <bazhang> magicalchamp, this is not the chat channel. #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[05:16] <kroq-gar78> DizzyLizzy: +1
[05:16] <kroq-gar78> oops :P
[05:16] <TrevInc> DizzyLizzy: All your wildest dreams will come true. And if they don't we'd be glad to help you with any support issues.
[05:17] <DizzyLizzy> I'm hesitant for two reasons: 1, all of my numerous settings that I'd have to transfer manually, and 2, all of the programs I have installed :P
[05:17] <villa> thedevil, no toolkit.networkmanger.disable in about:config
[05:17] <rww> unless you're on Debian 6, in which case #debian will be glad to consider helping you with any support issues
[05:17] <DizzyLizzy> I'm so happy Ubuntu 11.04 has Firefox 4! I've been using like 3.6.7 or something for AAAAGES
[05:17] <thedevil> villa: create one
[05:17] <DizzyLizzy> and LibreOffice instead of OpenOffice.org!
[05:18] <villa> kroq-gar78, yep, others works well
[05:18] <bazhang> DizzyLizzy, its fx5 now
[05:18] <villa> ok, thedevil ,I will try
[05:18] <DizzyLizzy> bazhang, Oh sweet, of course I'd do a distupgrade
[05:18] <DizzyLizzy> full upgrade, w/e
[05:21] <mateo> hello
[05:21] <thedevil> hello
[05:22] <fennng> Any cmd I can use to list all my install apps?
[05:22] <bazhang> fennng, dpkg -l
[05:22] <villa> toolkit.networkmanger.disable;true, thedevil , I have created it already, but it is still not working
[05:23] <DizzyLizzy> You know something's wrong when a distro running off a USB is faster than your installed distro
[05:23] <pp7> or there's something very right about your USB drive :P
[05:23] <h1gh> or your usb distro booted to RAM
[05:23] <TrevInc> solid state's come a long way
[05:23] <mateo> im having trouble installing aircrack on #! can anyone help?
[05:24] <kevin_> hey all. for some reason, any applications that use pulseaudio don't seem to sync right, ie they skip every 1.5-3 mins. i've tried totem, vlc, and banshee for AVI video+audio streams, and i have tried mplayer for AVI streams with no video output (mplayer -vo null) and they all skip. when i end pulseaudio and use alsa, all is well. any ideas?
[05:24] <yang38125> hi
[05:24] <fennng> bazhang: works, thank you
[05:24] <thedevil> fennng: there's also the whereis command and which command--there are a lot of apps in bin
[05:25] <rww> mateo: #ubuntu supports Ubuntu and its official derivatives. Crunchbang isn't an official Ubuntu derivative (or, in fact, a derivative of Ubuntu at all), so it's not supported here. Try #crunchbang.
[05:25] <thedevil> villa: what was the talk about ip 4 and 6, why did you bring that up
[05:25] <fennng> thedevil: thx, dpkg -l gives too much. I just forgot the name of mp3 player
[05:26] <villa> Is it a problem?
[05:26] <thedevil> fennng: which is usally definitive for that sort of scenerio but whereis is more informative
[05:28] <fennng> thedevil: thx, I've found it, moc
[05:28] <DizzyLizzy> moc?
[05:28] <DizzyLizzy> mpd
[05:29] <fennng> DizzyLizzy: it's name is moc, but the command for running it is mocp
[05:29] <DizzyLizzy> I know about mocp, I used it briefly when I ran Arch
[05:30] <fennng> I am running irssi in xterm, the font is ugly, how can i change it?
[05:31] <rww> !xterm
[05:31] <villa> thedevil, I still have no idea of what has happened off the top of my head, but it is working now. I just cancled a option. Anyway, thanks.
[05:31] <thedevil> villa: are you getting a dynamic ip or static
[05:31] <villa> static
[05:31] <fennng> so... what term should I use?
[05:31] <Senjai> Does anyone have an issue on laptops where an external mouse often ... bugs out? Sometimes it selects something and I cant deselect it without switching to my laptops trackpad.
[05:32] <fennng> ubottu: could you advice some fancy terms?
[05:32] <abhijain> i am trying to open a file but unable to read words should i need to download fonts or how can i recognized that which font is need to download
[05:33] <thedevil> fennng: i'm a shell or xterm guy
[05:33] <fennng> thedevil: so you are using xterm? not aterm or others?
[05:33] <abhijain> i am trying to read this doc file but unable to read http://www.gitjaipur.com/uor1.doc
[05:34] <abhijain> please help me for open office issue
[05:34] <villa> "Require IPv4 addressing for this connection to complete", I donot know what sense it make.
[05:35] <HackerII> after todays updates, audacious wont start, what happened ?
[05:35] <abhijain> where can i get open office help
[05:36] <Gryllida> abhijain, #openoffice.org and here; please be patient
[05:38] <sd> open office is now libre office open-office if i read it right is going for others areas for like SQL and something else
[05:38] <yang38125> hehe
[05:38] <thedevil> fennng: i just found an app to mess with xterm colors, xtermset
[05:39] <almoxarife> abhijain: you are trying to read something without the required font, I think
[05:40] <dthacker> Hi, I'm using the gparted live cd to grow an ext4 filesystem.   The filesystem is /dev/sd7 and my swap is /dev/sd8.   Can I safely delete my swap and re-create it after I grow /dev/sd7?
[05:41] <h1gh> abhijain:  I viewed in LibreOffice and wvText and got jibberish and "lwpuk" which when Googling shows same kind of gibberish.  So, yes likely need some speecial font or character set.
[05:42] <wildbat> dthacker: yes you can ~ but livecd most like using your swap now you have to umount/swapoff it
[05:43] <dthacker> wildbat:  I picked the "load into memory" option, will it still be a problem?
[05:43] <abhijain> h1gh: which type of fonts
[05:44] <wildbat> dthacker: if it isn't mounted it will be fine
[05:45] <dthacker> wildbat: dv -v in the consol shows "no file systems processed" so I think it's ok.
[05:45] <h1gh> abhijain: got me ... maybe ask the person who wrote the doc?
[05:45]  * dthacker holds breath and plunges ahead
[05:47] <h1gh> abhijain: if you google "lwpuk" you will see many documents as funky as yours, all from India.  So perhaps some hindi or tamil character set or font?
[05:51] <almoxarife> abhijain: what does fnukad mean? phonetic for something?
[05:51] <wrekt> what log file would i check to find out why my sytem froze just a minute ago
[05:52] <wildbat> wrekt: dmesg / syslog
[05:53] <h1gh> almoxarife: I think it is the name of a band: http://www.amazon.com/Fnukad-fufonk/dp/B004FX8P5A
[05:54] <adamkex> is it possible to connect windows with using adhoc?
[05:54] <adamkex> in NetworkManager
[05:55] <Karen_m> my chromium passwords no longer show, how can I get them?  They still work but I cannot view what the password was
[05:56] <dr_willis> sounds like they fixed a security bug if it was showing passwords
[05:56] <wrekt> wildbat, thnx. no luck though.
[05:57] <wildbat> wrekt: what's wrong?
[05:57] <Karen_m> dr_willis, they moved it to somewhere else... wherever ubuntu saves all the passwords is where they are listed now
[05:57] <wrekt> wildbat, dmesg seems to refer to events since the startup. im trying to figure out why apropos of nothing everything froze, losing me something i was working on.
[05:58] <almoxarife> Karen_m: I didn't have any problem just now
[05:58] <dr_willis> Karen_m: you mean the ubuntu/gnome keyring?
[05:58] <NickNakz> question - best irc client to use with Ubuntu?
[05:59] <dr_willis> NickNakz: depends on your needs
[05:59] <slacker-> irssi
[05:59] <jeremy1313> I cant get vuze to stay open and java wont update, can I get some help?
[05:59] <dr_willis> most can do the basics fine
[05:59] <adamkex> NickNakz: xchat if you want a graphical one
[05:59] <h1gh> !best | NickNakz
[05:59] <wildbat> wrekt: syslog then??
[05:59] <Karen_m> yes, how do i pull up the gnome keyring?
[05:59] <NickNakz> started with xchat... but am newbie and heard irssi is better
[05:59] <dr_willis> jeremy1313:     run from terminal   look for error messages
[05:59] <jeremy1313> ok
[06:00] <dr_willis> Karen_m:  run 'seahorse' is one way to get to it
[06:00] <wildbat> NickNakz: irssi is cli based irc client ~ you mostly don't want it ~
[06:00] <h1gh> NickNakz: I like Irssi, but have been enjoying Smuxi lately...
[06:00] <dr_willis> irssi is radically different then irssi in design
[06:01] <NickNakz> irssi easy with tor too?
[06:01] <adamkex> NickNakz: it doesn't really matter what you use, if you want to use an irc in the terminal use irssi or weechat
[06:01] <dr_willis> cli based = irssi or weechat
[06:01] <jeremy1313> dr_willis this is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/tADiZZWF
[06:01] <dr_willis> i dont see much need to use tor with irc. many servers block tor
[06:01] <NickNakz> from Ubuntu is the app install version of irssi updated... or better to do from the command?
[06:01] <adamkex> NickNakz: i think xchat is easier to configure if you want to use tor, why do you want to use tor anyways, it is banned from many irc networks
[06:01] <wrekt> wildbat, yea it just lists normal messages. thought id be able to figure out if my webcam was having some problems with pulseaudio but nothing concrete
[06:02] <yudi12> got two hard drives in my desktop with ubuntu and win 7 on them, each has it's own boot manager, want to use grub to boot win 7 on the second hard drive. how to do this? Using GRUB legacy.
[06:02] <wrekt> although i still think thats what caused it.
[06:02] <almoxarife> Karen_m:  system > pref > passwords
[06:03] <jeremy1313> dr_willis, heres the output http://pastebin.com/tADiZZWF
[06:03] <Karen_m> for some reason, all the passwords show is ... ****** when i click "show password"
[06:03] <dr_willis> jeremy1313: icedtea segfaulting. thats odd. you could try the sun/oracle java from the partners repo.
[06:03] <Karen_m> it didn't ask me to put in a password to decrypt them
[06:03] <jeremy1313> dr_willis alright, ill do that thanks!
[06:04] <wildbat> wrekt: no idea then
[06:04] <Herling>  /server irc.homelien.no
[06:04] <dr_willis> !guest
[06:04] <Herling> woot
[06:04] <adamkex> Herling: +1
[06:05] <almoxarife> Karen_m: odd, when I click on show I see the passwords
[06:06] <Kuzad> This is beginning to get annoying. I have 2 GB of RAM, yet Windows 11.04 decides to crash every few hours because it runs out of RAM by forking a process that takes a few kilobytes about 5,000 times.
[06:06] <almoxarife> Karen_m: you are logged in?
[06:07] <Abhijit> :-o
[06:07] <Abhijit> Windows 11.04?
[06:07] <Karen_m> it's weird, only one site won't show the password
[06:08] <Kuzad> It was intentional Abhijit. Based on the amount of problems with this version.
[06:08] <rww> hilarious
[06:08] <Abhijit> :-/
[06:08] <Guest82435> hi
[06:09] <Guest82435> !seen jim
[06:10] <jeremy1313> im the guy with the java problem, http://pastebin.com/tADiZZWF, i have iced tea, sun java and everything....
[06:10] <Abhijit> one .avi file giving codec error. use windows media player. i have already installed all the multidmedia codes. what i am missing?
[06:11] <Abhijit> help
[06:11] <jeremy1313> still having java problems
[06:11] <dr_willis> Abhijit:  ive seen avi/wmv with 'malware' type codecs youhave to buy or drm protected codecs.
[06:12] <Abhijit> dr_willis, ok
[06:12] <dr_willis> Abhijit:  what codec does vlc say its using
[06:13] <Abhijit> dr_willis, vlc does not say what codecs it using. it just gives error "Codec error: use windows media player
[06:13] <almoxarife> jeremy1313: you are using open java
[06:13] <Abhijit> "
[06:13] <jeremy1313> almoxarife yes i believe so
[06:14] <jeremy1313> almoxarife http://pastebin.com/jKSDjaVL
[06:14] <almoxarife> jeremy1313: is that the issue? open java and vuze don't mix? I am not saying it does not, I am saying verify does open java is an option with vuze
[06:16] <almoxarife> jeremy1313:  I finally gave up on open java because of those same issues, I have tried vuze with java 6 jre, it worked fine, it's a very bloated bittorrent though
[06:16] <rsv> how to downgrade from ubuntu 10.10 to 10.04
[06:17] <Abhijit> rsv, you can not. make a clean install.
[06:17] <Matic`Makovec> !kick Cindyy
[06:17] <Matic`Makovec> Well then.
[06:17] <dohomi> hi
[06:17] <villa> dohomi, hey
[06:18] <rsv> kick him hard
[06:18] <jeremy1313> almoxarife can I get java 6 jre through software center?
[06:18] <rsv> !kicj cindyy
[06:18] <rsv> !kick cindyy
[06:18] <almoxarife> jeremy1313: should
[06:18] <dohomi> my #*'*?=?= ubuntu freezes after couple of hours everytime
[06:18] <rsv> where does unbuntu store version information
[06:18] <dohomi> how can i locate the problem?
[06:19] <dohomi> i installed it 2 weeks ago, and its never run for a whole day
[06:19] <almoxarife> dohomi: I would check your ram first
[06:19] <dohomi> i did already
[06:19] <dohomi> have 8gig
[06:19] <dohomi> a lenovo t410 laptop
[06:20] <almoxarife> dohomi: I mean verify the ram is good
[06:20] <dohomi> i run the linux ram test without problem
[06:20] <almoxarife> dohomi: ok
[06:20] <rww> Matic`Makovec, rsv: Hi, I'm a channel operator. What's up with Cindyy?
[06:20] <Matic`Makovec> rww, well, spam on join
[06:20] <rsv> actually, i recieved some spam
[06:20] <rww> thanks
[06:20] <rsv> when i logged in
[06:20] <dohomi> is there  another way to test the system lack?
[06:21] <fnordista> hi
[06:21] <almoxarife> dohomi: what do the system logs show?
[06:21] <dohomi> where do i find it?
[06:22] <almoxarife> dohomi: sys > admin > log view
[06:22] <dohomi> where do i have to start?
[06:23] <almoxarife> dohomi: start with 'system.log' ?
[06:23] <madmn> i have a linksys WRT160N and want to port forward to i can ssh to my box anyone know how to do that
[06:24] <dohomi> i have System Log Viewer
[06:24] <dohomi> in syslog
[06:24] <Matic`Makovec> madmn, well I suggest you forward your ports to local IP then...but this isn't really an ubuntu question right here so I can't be sure on how to do that on wt160n
[06:24] <phper_> I installed php in ubuntu
[06:24] <phper_> where can I find its folder? I need to change php.ini
[06:25] <wildbat> !portforward | madmn
[06:25] <madmn> i am using a ubuntu box
[06:25] <almoxarife> madmn: you want to open the port into the machine being ssh'ed
[06:25] <dohomi> /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[06:25] <madmn> and i want to ssh from another computer
[06:25] <phper_> dohomi: many thanks
[06:26] <dohomi> i dont see anything strange in the syslog
[06:26] <madmn> that site is a paid site ubottu
[06:27] <rww> madmn: no it isn't, it's just problematically full of ads
[06:28] <madmn> is there another way i can get help with how to setup what i want then ?
[06:28] <dohomi> are there special keys i can use if the desktop freezes?
[06:28] <engammalsko> Would it be bad to make a small ntfs partition for music which I can access for both ubuntu and windows?
[06:29] <wildbat> madmn : pay me to do it for you XD ! LOL~j/k
[06:29] <bullgard4>  engammalsko No.
[06:29] <almoxarife> madmn: the router needs to know what port to open and what internal ip
[06:29] <Matic`Makovec> madmn, it's really easy
[06:29] <engammalsko> bullgard4: so ubuntu will handle ntfs pretty well then?
[06:29] <wildbat> engammalsko: not really ~ better then FAT32 or ext? and have wins run the driver
[06:30] <kpolinar> engammalsko: No, that's how you do it. :)
[06:30] <bullgard4>  engammalsko No. Not to be recommended. Use FAT32.
[06:30] <Matic`Makovec> As far as I remember Linksys's have port forwarding section
[06:30] <dohomi> if you want to use ntfs
[06:30] <Matic`Makovec> There you specify outer port, LAN IP and port and that's it
[06:30] <almoxarife> Matic`Makovec: they do, port forwarding and trigger
[06:30] <Matic`Makovec> Well then, madmn !
[06:30] <dohomi> then use this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[06:31] <engammalsko> What is fat32 better then ntfs? : )
[06:31] <Matic`Makovec> engammalsko, is that anywhere close to serious question?
[06:31] <anujwalia> Hey um working on Twitter connectivity on PhoneGap for android , found some OAuth Authentication i need to bypass
[06:31] <anujwalia> Any idea How to Proceed further ?
[06:31] <almoxarife> madmn: and if the machine itself is firewalled, then it also needs to be opened
[06:32] <phper_> I installed php5 on ubuntu, but the php.ini file doesn't have any extensions text in it, what can I do about it?
[06:32] <engammalsko> Matic`Makovec: Yes, Someone told me that I should use fat32 instead of ntfs, does that mean that fat32 is better?
[06:32] <dohomi> phper_ you have to enable the modules
[06:32] <Matic`Makovec> engammalsko, fat32 is an ancient NT filesystem. It is deprecated and should not be used in any case whatsoever, especially not on Linux
[06:32] <dohomi> apache2 is differnet
[06:32] <wildbat> engammalsko: nope ~fat32 is old
[06:33] <phper_> dohomi: how? I have to write them one by one? there isn't the text of the extensions in the php.ini file
[06:33] <dr_willis> fat32 has many limitations
[06:33] <dohomi> how to see all enabled modules: sudo apache2ctl -l
[06:33] <engammalsko> Okay, good then :D I thougjt it was old, that's why I've never used it (or well, maybe on a old computer)
[06:34] <Loshki> engammalsko: ntfs is a good solution for your case. Create it on windows if you have a choice....
[06:34] <dr_willis> small usb flash drives are ok for fat. :)
[06:34] <Matic`Makovec> dohomi, a2dismod for example
[06:34] <dohomi> or a2enmod for enable
[06:34] <Matic`Makovec> It lists all the modules currently enabled, if you don't want to disable any, just ctrl+c
[06:35] <Matic`Makovec> dohomi, well a2enmod lists _all_ modules, I don't think a2dismod does or does it?