[04:18] <cherubiel> DarkY: you are able to see the networks, right?
[04:18] <cherubiel> DarkY: connect problems?
[04:18] <DexterF> hey... um.. I got a X800, is it possible that Xorg7.1 can do 3D on that natively? I haven't followed the r300 developement lately
[04:18] <lightstep> hello, i ran dist-upgrade recently, and now apt crashes when it starts loading the package list. how can i revert to an older version?
[04:18] <nolimitsoya> FRET, as in suspend?
[04:18] <nokrev> Hey, I've got a question about installing mod_python into apt's apache install. Would it be ok to ask here?
[04:18] <robbbb> DarkY: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[04:18] <DarkY> cherubiel: ive reinstalled ubuntu cause after some time eth1 disappered
[04:18] <renjith171> is there any software for CAD (DAPPER DRAKE)
[04:18] <anton_> njal_: i'm worried about the lack of an ip-capable device node
[04:18] <DarkY> cherubiel: now ill install network manager... oder is wifi-radar better?
[04:18] <FRET> nolimitsoya, no... not sure what you mean. I want to switch of the usb-harddisk before removing it
[04:19] <cherubiel> DarkY: you need the drivers first.. does iwconfig give anything for eth1 ?
[04:19] <cherubiel> DarkY: iwconfig
[04:19] <njal_> anton: yeah there is that, but wouldn't editing /etc/network/interfaces fix that?
[04:19] <DarkY> yes it does
[04:19] <ac7ss> how can I tell what X video driver is running?
[04:19] <nolimitsoya> renjith171, there are tons of different types of work that can be computer aided. be specific
[04:19] <cherubiel> DarkY: and iwlist eth1 scan
[04:19] <DarkY> i've integrated the driver i need ^^
[04:19] <Morrissey> Mem:        have: 515756     used: 485176      free: 30580          0      17492     212416 <--- is this why my computers kind of slow lately? Changing applications windows, browsing, +++ is really slow :( Using KDE
[04:19] <kandinski> ok, so after uploading from dapper to edgy, I have dependency problems
[04:19] <cherubiel> DarkY: shows your network?
[04:19] <kandinski> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33923/
[04:19] <DarkY> also give something =)
[04:19] <DarkY> mom
[04:19] <FRET> nolimitsoya, do you understnad my problem?
[04:19] <nolimitsoya> FRET, as in break the power? usb is hotswapable, so thats not a problem
[04:19] <DarkY> yes
[04:19] <Enselic> nolimitsoya, cherubiel: It just mounts as emtpy, I guess it must be something funny with the file
[04:19] <robbbb> anyone know why SOME links in firefox 2 open up a new window instead of a tab? or how to stop it?
[04:19] <renjith171> AUTOCAD type software for ubuntu
[04:19] <DarkY> cherubiel: yes it does ^^
[04:19] <Enselic> nolimitsoya, cherubiel: It just mounts as emtpy, I guess it must be something funny with the file
[04:19] <burwaco> does anyone got an idea how I can get rid off this error ? root@box:/# glxgears libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[04:20] <anton_> njal_: i don't think so. the device nodes are created when the driver module is loaded into the kernel
[04:20] <FRET> nolimitsoya, right. so it's no problem for the harddisk?
[04:20] <Enselic> oops
[04:20] <nolimitsoya> FRET, no
[04:20] <njal_> anton: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[04:20] <FRET> nolimitsoya, alright, that was my only concern. Thx
[04:20] <robbbb> also, anyone know why my screensaver is always blank screen with no password box?!
[04:20] <DarkY> cherubiel: it displays every 3 networks in my range... also mine
[04:20] <DarkY> cherubiel: so what tool should i use? :P
[04:20] <lightstep> robbbb, can you give a website that opens a new window?
[04:20] <anton_> burwaco: i've seen that one before, can't remember what it was. i'd try googling it
[04:20] <Enselic> nolimitsoya, cherubiel, DexterF: thanks anyway
[04:20] <nolimitsoya> FRET, the usb plug is designed so that the + pins bread before the ground, specificaly to make thing hotswapable.
[04:21] <nolimitsoya> *break
[04:21] <burwaco> ok, thx anton_
[04:21] <cherubiel> DarkY: i;ve been using iwconfig all my life :) - wifi-radar is a good gui tool
[04:21] <anton_> njal_: why not? :)
[04:21] <robbbb> lightstep: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45984&highlight=wifi-radar
[04:21] <DarkY> cherubiel: k illl install wifi-rader =D
[04:21] <ac7ss> Robbbb, it's in the config. under Tabs.
[04:21] <robbbb> click the wifi-radar link
[04:21] <robbbb> i've set the config to open new windows in tabs
[04:22] <njal_> dreamglider: Run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart from the command line, it'll reset your networking and might get wlan0 to detect the access point
[04:22] <FRET> nolimitsoya, I see. Thx again
[04:22] <travkin> someone use cedega?
[04:22] <theresa> hello folks!
[04:22] <njal_> dreamglider: Though it'll reset ALL network connections
[04:22] <DarkY> how to use wiconfig?
[04:22] <travkin> Cedega Users - private
[04:22] <Dreamglider> ok hangon.
[04:22] <DarkY> cherubiel: how to use wiconfig can i qry u? :/
[04:23] <renjith171> i can only find kmplayer ..does it work in gnome
[04:23] <robbbb> i've got it set to tabs already!
[04:23] <njal_> travkin: Is it locking up X?
[04:23] <DarkY> cherubiel: iwconfig i mean ^^
[04:23] <theresa> i was wondering if the ubuntu-title font was also available as a ttf font?
[04:23] <foo> fsck.ext3 -nv /dev/sda1 reports this ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33925/ ... this is a second box, and it shows the exact same things. What gives? It's ubuntu server install with LAMP option.  Browsing web pages, changing windows everything .. slow
[04:24] <renjith171> DOES kmplayer work fr GNOME
[04:24] <njal_> renjith171: kmplayer is just a gui to mplayer
[04:24] <we2by> hi guys
[04:25] <DarkY> cherubiel: can u tell me how to use iwconfig?
[04:25] <cherubiel> DarkY: http://nst.sourceforge.net/nst/docs/faq/ch07s03.html
[04:25] <njal_> renjith171: But yes, i imagine it would
[04:25] <we2by> sound doesn't work with flash
[04:25] <DarkY> cherubiel: merci =)
[04:25] <renjith171> njal_: thnks
[04:25] <njal_> we2by: You need mp3 support
[04:25] <DarkY> cherubiel: okay a gui tool whould be nicer...
[04:25] <njal_> !mp3 | we2by
[04:25] <we2by> I do have mp3 support
[04:25] <ubotu> we2by: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:25] <Dreamglider> tesr
[04:25] <Dreamglider> tr
[04:25] <we2by> I'm playing mp3
[04:26] <njal_> we2by: Hmm  that's curious
[04:26] <ac7ss> any help with the X-video driver?
[04:26] <Dreamglider> hello
[04:26] <Dreamglider> ping me
[04:26] <njal_> dreamglider: Is it working for you?
[04:26] <Dreamglider> yea im wireless
[04:26] <Dreamglider> thanks
[04:26] <dmnd> cherubiel: i dont get an answer there, i read on the forums that there should be a compositor menu in the windows manager tweaks, i am using ubuntu 6.10, any idea?
[04:26] <njal_> Dreamglider: No worries, so just reseting the networking did it?
[04:27] <Dreamglider> njal_, yea and i had to make it default connetion
[04:27] <cherubiel> dmnd: try dpkg-reconfigure xfce4
[04:27] <njal_> Dreamglider: Cool
[04:28] <nokrev> Does Ubuntu have any neato toys like Aptitude for Apache modules? :D
[04:28] <Dreamglider> njal_, now i have to secure with WPA and AES encryption
[04:28] <porkpie> hi guy's how can I get autoexpand and tabcompletion to work
[04:28] <njal_> Dreamglider: I only have experience with WEP
[04:28] <Oni-Dracula> problem:  after installing the nvidia beta drivers and restarting, X will not load and complains about a kernel module version mismatch.  X will only load if you 'startx' after the drivers are installed
[04:29] <atomikulinux> anyway
[04:29] <atomikulinux> it all works fine now
[04:29] <Dreamglider> njal_, i can only see WEP in the network settings !
[04:29] <atomikulinux> Shame it took me 9 hours just to figure out that the grub configuration wasnt right...
[04:29] <Morrissey> of my 512mb RAM, Xorg uses 20%!!! is this normal??
[04:29] <atomikulinux> Ohhh well. Thanks to everyone that helped me.
[04:29] <dmnd> cherubiel: no result.. :/
[04:29] <robbbb> anyone get firefox opening up certain links in a new window even though it's set to open in a tab?>
[04:29] <cherubiel> dmnd: hmmm looking around, xfce-mcs-manager
[04:29] <Trelous> ya has anyone gotten WPA to work I tried but did not get it to on my laptop.
[04:29] <atomikulinux> Morrissey: Doesnt take up 20% for me so I guess its not normal
[04:30] <Morrissey> any idea of how to fix it?
[04:30] <lightstep> robbbb, i saw bugs 361168,360925,358950,358187 in mozilla's bugzilla about this. it seems there is a great confusion about all this new tab/new window behaviour in firefox. maybe you can try an older version.
[04:30] <dmnd> cherubiel: ok
[04:30] <renjith171> apt-get install realplay ....doesnt work !!
[04:31] <robbbb> lightstep: i'm not downgrading to pre 2
[04:31] <njal_> dreamglider: hang on
[04:31] <robbbb> i like a lot of the new features
[04:31] <cherubiel> dmnd: check the man page for xfwm4 as well
[04:31] <porkpie> what be the reason why when I use the up arrow to see the last commands typed I get garbbage
[04:31] <Dreamglider> njal_,  thanks
[04:31] <cherubiel> !info real
[04:31] <ubotu> Package real does not exist in any distro I know
[04:31] <cherubiel> !info realplayer
[04:31] <ubotu> Package realplayer does not exist in any distro I know
[04:31] <boink> heh? I use a realplayer .deb
[04:31] <porkpie> !autoexpand
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autoexpand - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <boink> !info realplay
[04:31] <ubotu> Package realplay does not exist in any distro I know
[04:31] <dmnd> cherubiel: i have checked everything but i am in doubt that the xfce i installed has support for composite enabled
[04:31] <boink> ood
[04:31] <boink> odd
[04:31] <floating> Hallou. How do I know/check if I have GTK 1.2.0 or later installed ?
[04:32] <boink> dpkg -l|grepgtk
[04:32] <boink> dpkg -l|grep gtk
[04:32] <san_> hey can anyone help me getting wireless set up properly on an acer travelmate laptop
[04:32] <njal_> Dreamglider: There is something we might be able to try... But i don't know how well it will work
[04:32] <we2by> !msn
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[04:32] <boink> I use gaim, works nicely for msn
[04:32] <renjith171> then is der no way other than downloading  d  realplayer pkg
[04:32] <njal_> san: What wireless card is it?
[04:32] <boink> renjith171: on dapper?
[04:32] <we2by> me too
[04:33] <we2by> but
[04:33] <renjith171> boink: yeah Dapper
[04:33] <boink> I use realplay .deb on dapper, works nicely
[04:33] <boink> you need to adjust your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:33] <san_> its my friends laptop and im not entirely sure, the drivers ive got off the cd suggest its an ipw2200 built in card
[04:33] <san_> oh yeah btw im on edgy
[04:33] <renjith171> boink::which repositry shud i add fr that
[04:33] <san_> *the acer cd thay came with the laptop
[04:34] <boink> you can have a look at my sources.list
[04:34] <dmnd> cherubiel: do you have any idea of what's going on :)
[04:34] <njal_> san: run lspci from the command line, and see if it's listed
[04:34] <boink> http://cuba.calyx.nl//~oink/ubuntu-sources.list
[04:34] <boink> wireless in edgy is broken
[04:34] <cherubiel> dmnd: there is a switch for xfwm4 ; --compositor=on/off
[04:34] <lightstep> robbbb, perhaps the preferences dialog is wrong. try settings browser.link.open_newwinodow* in about:config
[04:34] <boink> I have a horrible problem
[04:34] <Trelous> dreamglider you could try this but it did not work for me for WPA but it's suppose to ... sudo apt-get >sudo apt-get install wpasupplicat>sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome network-manager>sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces>Comment out everything other than lo entries in that file and save the file>Create a file called /etc/default/wpasupplicant, add entry ENABLED=0 and save the file
[04:35] <dmnd> cherubiel: aaah, where do i set this?
[04:35] <san_> ah yeas  njal itss a intell 2200bg tirless card
[04:35] <floating> boink thx
[04:35] <DekKeD> I want to install kde-devel package, but I get "BREAK (install)". Any solutions?
[04:35] <njal_> san: In the networking tool see if it'll 'JUST WORK'
[04:35] <cherubiel> dmnd: /usr/share/xsessions/xfce.desktop ? maybe? thats were the entires for d/kdm starts the sessions
[04:35] <cherubiel> dmnd: you should make one more .desktop entry with the composite swithc, try booting into that from the display manager
[04:35] <floating> Edit the makefile
[04:35] <floating>  - Check GTKINC and GTKLIBS to point to the GTK library, if necessary
[04:35] <floating>  - Check that BINDIR and LIBDIR are set to the location where you
[04:36] <floating> terrible paste. excuseme
[04:36] <dmnd> cherubiel: ok i will see if i can get this to work :)
[04:36] <Trelous> it will change so you can choose WEP / WPA ... but something did not work when I did it I am still trying to figure it out.
[04:36] <floating> the point was to ask, that I dont get the first one . check gtkinc etc....
[04:37] <san_> njal edgy didnt pick the card up in netowrking by default so i ndiswrapperer the driver, now the card is displayed in networking but doesnt work when its activated
[04:37] <lightstep> robbbb, after some playing with that option, return it to 3, and then it should work (you didn't want to downgrade, so you have to work around a bug)
[04:37] <ADminS> how i can test mic under ubuntu in laptop?
[04:37] <njal_> san: Am on the ndiswrapper page looking for your card now ;)
[04:37] <Trelous> O and your suppose to reboot after all that.
[04:37] <anton_> oo. my laptop won't let me switch of the wlan-card in bios.
[04:38] <san_> thank you so much i really appreciate your help
[04:38] <njal_> san: this sound about right '# Card: [Intel]  PRO/Wireless 2200BG'?
[04:38] <Curtman> How can I stop Ubuntu from setting my hostname to what my ISP provides in the dhcp lease?
[04:38] <san_> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection thats copied from lspci
[04:38] <san_> so yep
[04:39] <boink> Curtman: you mean for what?
[04:39] <boink> have a look at your /etc/hostname
[04:39] <DekKeD> I want to install kde-devel package, but I get "BREAK (install)". Any solutions?
[04:39] <robbbb> lightstep: nice - it was set to 2
[04:39] <robbbb> i'll give it a whirl
[04:39] <Curtman> boink: Every time I reboot, my hostname gets changed to S010600c026a01375 or whatever.
[04:39] <we2by> guys, anything similar to mono?
[04:40] <we2by> crossplatform programming?
[04:40] <boink> but what's in your /etc/hostname ?
[04:40] <njal_> san: Go here
[04:40] <njal_> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#I
[04:40] <njal_> san: and go to number 6
[04:40] <njal_> looks like it's your card
[04:40] <Curtman> boink: /etc/hostname contains what I want.  Ubuntu changes it to my ISP when it brings up eth0
[04:40] <cherubiel> we2by: dotgnu ?
[04:40] <boink> great, then your isp assigns a name to your ip
[04:40] <willvdl> hi there, anyone using lm-sensors in edgy?
[04:40] <boink> is your ip dynamic or static?
[04:40] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[04:40] <cherubiel> Curtman: how do you see this "hostname"
[04:40] <we2by> cherubiel, which one do you prefer and why?
[04:41] <Curtman> boink: I just can't figure out how to configure dhcpcd to ignore that.
[04:41] <njal_> san: and it looks like you shall have to use the second driver
[04:41] <cherubiel> Curtman: i mean, where do you see that?
[04:41] <Pand0ra> having an issues with xvid codec (i assume) all other video formats seem to play fine but xvid is shakey vertically, even when paused. Not sure what would cause that or how to even describe that problem to search for it, any hints?
[04:41] <boink> it's not dhcpd. it's the dhclient
[04:41] <boink> man dhclient.conf
[04:41] <KnowledgEngi> i solved some problem with timidity but there is other problem now
[04:41] <KnowledgEngi> http://rafb.net/paste/results/U6gcEp51.html
[04:41] <cherubiel> we2by: dotgnu since i hack on that :)
[04:41] <Zambezi> When I add an iprange in hosts.allow, should I do anything differnt compare to a IP? It's still sshd: <IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS> ?
[04:41] <san_> njal yeah that looks like the one can you help me through that, sorry if im being stupid im fairly new to all this
[04:41] <Curtman> cherubiel: At the login I see it, if I type 'hostname' I see it.  So I have to log in as root every time and set it manually.
[04:42] <boink> it's the ip number which has the name, not your box
[04:42] <we2by> cherubiel, itlooks like dotgnu is still under heavy development
[04:42] <njal_> san_: I can try
[04:42] <jorge_> hello world helpme
[04:42] <cherubiel> we2by: want to contribute? :)
[04:42] <boink> !ask
[04:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:42] <san_> thank you :)
[04:42] <willvdl> for some unknown reason, I have no i2c-sensors module
[04:42] <we2by> cherubiel, nah, I'm a c+= newbie
[04:42] <we2by> C++
[04:42] <njal_> san_: Ok, so download the second driver
[04:42] <njal_> and open the ndiswrapper gui
[04:43] <jorge_> how setting plugins
[04:43] <Narada> hi; which guide would you recommend to install xgl on kubuntu; there's so many of them and all different
[04:43] <jorge_> mp3
[04:43] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell narada about xgl | narada, you have a private message from Ubotu
[04:43] <Curtman> boink: But what do I set in dhclient.conf is the question..
[04:43] <cherubiel> we2by: both implement the .net spec
[04:43] <san_> okay
[04:43] <njal_> san_: Install driver and point it to the driver exe file
[04:44] <Narada> LjL: thanks
[04:44] <san_> okay even though its looking for an ing?
[04:44] <san_> *inf
[04:44] <we2by> cherubiel, yea, but looking at both version number, Mono is a bit better
[04:45] <njal_> san_: I know it wants an inf, but the driver came packaged as a exe, i don't know how to open it
[04:45] <GhoSt_DoG> how i resolv this  problem? Totem incapaz de reproduzir 'mmsh://ir1-c200.narrowstep.tv/mcp?psid=12439228&ref=0&chid=2&pid=208&vid=9929417&br=800&tid=2&brid=3&MSWMExt=.asf'.
[04:45] <njal_> san_: Unless....you install it in windows and then copy the inf file over onto your linux machine
[04:45] <we2by> omg
[04:46] <thinh> any one good with tv tuner card?
[04:46] <LjL> !anyone
[04:46] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:46] <we2by> I just installed monodevelop on the wrong machine!
[04:46] <we2by> :(
[04:46] <san_> okay ill try that
[04:46] <Zarephath> njal_: It also could just be a zip executable or some form thereof that will extract to a temp directory first...you might be able to get it from the temp folder as well...
[04:46] <san_> or can i try and open it in wine?
[04:46] <njal_> san_: Let me know how it goes
[04:46] <Curtman> boink: I think I might have found it..  supersede host-name "ultrix";
[04:46] <njal_> san_: Follow zaraphaths idea first
[04:46] <san_> okay im opening it in wine atm
[04:47] <KnowledgEngi> the sound is like the normal user cannot load the soundfont
[04:47] <KnowledgEngi> http://rafb.net/paste/results/U6gcEp51.html
[04:47] <voidmage> I was trying to run half life in steam and it messed up my resolution. Is there a way to fix it without restarting x?
[04:47] <voidmage> wine*
[04:47] <ARTURO> HOLA
[04:47] <KnowledgEngi> becouse if i run timidity as root the sound is different
[04:47] <ARTURO> COMO ESTA
[04:47] <Zarephath> !tell arturo about es
[04:47] <LjL> !es | ARTURO
[04:47] <ubotu> ARTURO: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:48] <ARTURO> UBUNTU
[04:48] <LjL> !caps | ARTURO
[04:48] <ubotu> ARTURO: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:48] <san_> njal its installed :)
[04:48] <ARTURO> NOT
[04:48] <njal_> san_: Cool, is it working?
[04:48] <javaJake> Has anyone noticed slow forum speeds lately?
[04:48] <ARTURO> VENEZOLANO
[04:48] <javaJake> Or is it just me?
[04:49] <san_> just about to test, do i have to depmod and modprobe?
[04:49] <crayzee> I am installing Edgy on a PC, but the PC keeps shutting down. The message I get is that the system is reaching a critical temperature (-273C) and is shutting down.
[04:49] <crayzee> Does anyone know of a better workaround than acpi=off?
[04:49] <njal_> crayzee: check your cpu fan
[04:50] <floating> Where are gtk libraries located? I shold point to that dir in makefile, how to add it in here: GTKLIBS=`gtk-config --libs`
[04:50] <crayzee> njal_, it is fine. It has been running dapper happily for ages. And its running happily at 5k rev/s so it ain't that.
[04:50] <Zarephath> Doesn't lm_sensors help with some of that too?
[04:50] <san_> njal no luck :(
[04:50] <crayzee> I think it is an lm_sensors or similar bug
[04:50] <crayzee> Possibly kernel thermal_zone?
[04:50] <crayzee> something like that...
[04:50] <Stegozor> Hi, how can I launch file explorer as super user? I mean, sudo cd doesn't work in the Terminal, so I'd like to gksudo "file browser"
[04:50] <LjL> crayzee: possibly i do
[04:50] <LjL> crayzee: hold on a second, let me find the bug report
[04:51] <san_> Stegozor sudo nautilus
[04:51] <Stegozor> san: thanks
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> Stegozor: Why would you use sudo on cd?
[04:51] <Stegozor> there's a file in home, it's hiden and named .Trash-root
[04:51] <LjL> crayzee: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/44805 <- see my comments
[04:51] <njal_> san_: try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:51] <LjL> crayzee: (search for "BIOS")
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> Stegozor: Okay
[04:52] <Stegozor> I'd like to have a look in it, and possibly delete it to save disk space
[04:52] <we2by> mhh, Mono looks alot like VB! :D
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> Stegozor: just cd normally, and use sudo on rm when you get rid of it
[04:52] <javaJake> OK, forum speeds are getting better now
[04:52] <javaJake> So, never mind
[04:52] <we2by> but then with C++ style
[04:52] <Zarephath> anyone know of a channel where I can find out about burning back mp3 to red audio however I wan't to maintain the tag information so it will show up on the player as artist/title
[04:52] <LjL> crayzee: so, basically, try disabling "Shutdown When CPU Fan Fail" if you have it enabled in the BIOS
[04:53] <crayzee> LjL, as it happens I have already read that! The BIOS only lets me see the fan speed, nothing else. Not even the processor temperature.
[04:53] <san_> njal no luck, just a thought, its a laptop with  hardware switch which isnt activating in ubuntu maybe i have to get drivers for that??
[04:53] <LjL> crayzee: hmm
[04:53] <LjL> crayzee: is it not AwardBIOS?
[04:53] <Stegozor> tonyyarusso : ok. two questions: why does sudo cd not work? is this normal ?   and is the "strange" file I'm talking about is safely deletable?
[04:53] <thinh> anyone good with tv tuner cards?
[04:53] <LjL> !anyone | thinh
[04:53] <ubotu> thinh: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:53] <san_> oh waitits worked!!!
[04:54] <san_> thank you so much njal
[04:54] <san_> really appreicate that!!
[04:54] <crayzee> LjL: PheonixBIOS
[04:54] <njal_> san_: No worries
[04:54] <njal_> san_: Now
[04:54] <thinh> does anyone know how to get tv tuner card working?
[04:54] <crayzee> *PhoenixBIOS
[04:54] <tonyyarusso> Stegozor: Probably b/c it just thinks it's super-weird.  The file is actually a directory - see what its contents are.
[04:54] <njal_> san_: run sudo gedit /etc/modules
[04:54] <stoop> hello am new can you tell me what i instal
[04:54] <Stegozor> oh, it just contains an account I deleted
[04:54] <san_> yep
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> stoop: I don't think I understand your question
[04:55] <njal_> san_: Add ndiswrapper at the end of the file, this should tell the system to run ndiswrapper at boot
[04:55] <LjL> crayzee: well, i don't know then, try disabling anything that seems related to temperature checking or fan speed checking...
[04:55] <san_> done :D
[04:55] <njal_> san_: The ultimate test is to reboot without the network cable in, then telling me after the reboot
[04:56] <san_> okay ill do that now thanks alot
[04:56] <crayzee> LjL: How?
[04:56] <stoop> i dont know what i have to instal mediaplayers ... and the sutch
[04:56] <LjL> crayzee: and whether you fail or succeed, please add a comment to that bug report, stating that you're using PhoenixBIOS and which version, which motherboard etc... like i did
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> !restricted | stoop
[04:56] <ubotu> stoop: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:56] <crayzee> LjL: I just tried acpi=off in the boot sequence, but it doesnt seem to make a difference
[04:56] <Zarephath> You should be able to tell if it is up by issuing iwconfig <interface> if it shows the essid and such then it should be working
[04:56] <stoop> and media center stuff ?
[04:56] <Elko> how safe is it to 'apt-get autoremove'?
[04:56] <floating> GTKINC=`gtk-config --cflags`  to add a directory in that syntax, will it be like GTKINC=/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/`gtk-config --cflags` ?
[04:56] <LjL> crayzee: you could try "noapic" too
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> stoop: Like?
[04:56] <stoop> thkx tonyyarusso i already got restricted
[04:57] <stoop> media center for linux ? how many ar ther ?
[04:57] <LjL> Elko: should be safe, unless you have stuff that you installed manually (i.e. not from the repos or from .debs) that relies on APT-installed dependencies
[04:57] <stoop> like my xbmc on xbox
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> stoop: I have not idea what that is, so...
[04:57] <mrspinx> hi everyone, i just installed a debian package that is now looking for a package that isn't in joomla (ok, i learned that this is a bad idea). i now can't get rid of the package. i tried `apt-get remove --purge joomla` and `dpkg -r joomla` and `dpkg -P joomla` nothing works. I keep getting: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 10
[04:58] <foo> What backup method would you guys recommend with linux? rsync -azv --exclude=/backup / /backup/ or something?
[04:58] <stoop> xbox media center
[04:58] <thinh> does anyone know about tv tuner?
[04:58] <Elko> LjL: ok, clear, thanks.
[04:58] <robbbb> anyone got a dell poweredge?
[04:58] <LjL> !repeat | thinh, stop. i already gave you a hint twice
[04:58] <ubotu> thinh, stop. i already gave you a hint twice: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> stoop: "media center" meaning like a music+video player app?
[04:58] <stoop> yah visualiser and shell
[04:59] <LjL> mrspinx: put the full output of that on the pastebin
[04:59] <Stegozor> there's something weird in my /home directory : when I click on it with the right button and have a look at its properties, I see 445.9 Mb occupied, and 556.5 Mb Free, but my /home partition is supposed to be 2 Gb large. Where is the missing 1 Gb?
[04:59] <tonyyarusso> !players | stoop
[04:59] <ubotu> stoop: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:59] <LjL> !mythtv | thinh, might be of some help
[04:59] <ubotu> thinh, might be of some help: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[05:00] <thinh> okey thanks i check it out
[05:00] <mrspinx> subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 10
[05:00] <regin> can i get all my saweb boook makrs from firefox in windows to firefox in ubuntu =
[05:00] <LjL> mrspinx: err, there must be something else i think
[05:00] <stoop> never had luck with myth tho
[05:00] <burwaco> has anyone ever sen this ?
[05:00] <thinh> my card is dectected it shows up in lspci and dmesg
[05:00] <thinh> its a very common card it uses saa7134
[05:01] <burwaco> glxgears : libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[05:01] <san__> njal, no luck, not working again
[05:01] <stoop> can i use Myth for playback without tv tuner ?
[05:02] <san__> i tried doing m and odprobe ndiswrapper again not working still
[05:02] <san__> *modprobe
[05:03] <LinuxMan2005> hello
[05:03] <regin> http://www.nym.fo/NymfoLink.aspx?id=3023
[05:03] <njal_> san_: Hmm
[05:04] <njal_> san_: Did you run modprobe when you logged in?
[05:04] <LjL> regin: ?
[05:04] <kandinski> does anyone else have dependency problems with mesa and SDL? I do after upgrading from dapper to edgy -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33923/
[05:05] <san__> well i tried using the net wirlessly first, then i ran modprobe and tried to reconnect, but no luck
[05:05] <stoop> i allso got a problem usin sound in xine
[05:05] <stoop> anyway to debug ?
[05:06] <mrspinx2> LjL: sorry - irssi crashed -- will paseebin now
[05:06] <regin> Sorry that link was no supose to go in here
[05:06] <san__> does it matter that its called eth1, on all the other pcs ive used wireless on its been wlan0
[05:06] <thinh> how do i default my soundcard? i have a tv tuner card that ubuntu detect as a soundcard so when i log in sometimes ubuntu switch default to that card, so i get sound once awhile
[05:07] <njal_> san_: Remove the ndiswrapper entry from /etc/modules reboot and then run the modprobe command, this will see if ndiswrapper is having problems at boot, erm no, i doubt it
[05:07] <san__> okay ill do that now
[05:08] <stoop> how do i fix xine so i got sound ?
[05:08] <mrspinx2> LjL: http://pastebin.ca/257631
[05:09] <rummik> hey, i just finished setting up a proxy server and was wondering if there was an easy way to make it so that all connections need to go through it
[05:09] <LjL> mrspinx2, see if you have a file named /var/lib/dpkg/info/joomla.postinst or similar, and if you do, pastebin it
[05:09] <stoop> !fix xine xound
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix xine xound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell stoop about sound | stoop, you have a private message from Ubotu
[05:10] <schasi> how far is ntfs support in linux?
[05:10] <LjL> schasi: ok for reading, still potentially dangerous for writing
[05:10] <mrspinx2> LjL: will do, thanks for the help btw :)
[05:10] <uBaHoB> i have a question about pppoe error
[05:11] <KnowledgEngi> http://rafb.net/paste/results/U6gcEp51.html
[05:11] <KnowledgEngi> i has problem using timidity
[05:12] <mrspinx2> LjL: http://pastebin.ca/257633
[05:12] <KnowledgEngi> timidity as normal user cannot load the soundfont
[05:12] <thinh> has anyone setup mythtv?
[05:12] <mrspinx2> it is looking for www-config or similar, which doesn't exist. to uninstall it looks for this *i think*
[05:13] <thinh> i just wanna watch tv on it so what would be my choose of installation
[05:13] <uBaHoB> I use LiveCD and ppoeconf to setup the internet (not ADSL, trough LAN). I can connect, but I can't ping and open sites. plog shows me "replacing existing default route through ppp0" and
[05:13] <LjL> mrspinx2: hm, kay, do you also have /var/lib/dpkg/info/joomla.postrm
[05:13] <thinh> frontend or backend anyone?
[05:13] <robbbb> what is the command to change themes in KDE?
[05:14] <uBaHoB> and other error in plog is "Cannot determine ethernet address for poxy ARP"
[05:14] <uBaHoB> is this live cd issue?
[05:14] <stoop> LjL:  sound works in RhythemBox with mp3 and all ... just xine ... doesnt play music ... no sound
[05:16] <mrspinx2> http://pastebin.ca/257635/var/lib/dpkg/info/joomla.postrm
[05:16] <mrspinx2> /var/lib/dpkg/info/joomla.postrm
[05:17] <mrspinx2> LjL sorry -> http://pastebin.ca/257635
[05:17] <mrspinx2> middle clicked ;)
[05:18] <foxhound31> hello
[05:18] <foxhound31> got a question about starting or stopping services
[05:18] <foxhound31> every time i use service
[05:18] <foxhound31> as in service iptables restart
[05:18] <san_> njaj it works yay :d
[05:19] <foxhound31> i just get command not recognised
[05:19] <san_> *njab
[05:19] <foxhound31> does service exist in this distro?
[05:19] <Comrade_S> !mythtv | thinh
[05:19] <ubotu> thinh: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[05:20] <stoop> so howto fix xine into playing sound ? ... it doesnt while rythembox does
[05:20] <njal_> san_: Did you run modprobe after you logged in, or did it just work?
[05:20] <san_> no it started buy itself
[05:20] <LjL> mrspinx2: this could be kind of dangerous... but you can try executing that script manually, and see why it's failing
[05:21] <LjL> mrspinx2: would be "sh -v /var/lib/dpkg/info/joomla.postrm"
[05:21] <LjL> mrspinx2: would be "sh -v /var/lib/dpkg/info/joomla.postrm purge" actually
[05:23] <njal_> san_: reboot a couple of more times, just to make sure it's not a fluke then i would be happy
[05:23] <njal_> san_: That's what i would do
[05:23] <Dark_Dragon> !wine
[05:23] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:23] <stoop> i used an old dvd to install ubuntu how do i know what version i have and how do i update
[05:23] <stoop> dont want to reinstall from dvd again plz
[05:24] <san_> okay i will, the only thing is at random times the signal strength bar on my panel shows it at ful or empty as if its dicconnected however im still browsing, a moinor problem but lets see if it works after a reeboot like you msayu
[05:24] <san_> *say
[05:25] <uBaHoB> i have question about PPPoE and LiveCD ubuntu 6.10
[05:25] <Cuddles_in_KY> morning all.
[05:25] <Curtman> This is very annoying..  It's still changing my hostname every reboot.  :(
[05:26] <mrspinx2> LjL: well, w/ -v it just cat'ed it to STDOUT -- w/o it it just ran and didn't do much :-/
[05:26] <LjL> mrspinx2, pastebin what it output to stdout
[05:26] <Cuddles_in_KY> i'm having a slight problem using ndiswrapper on my laptop. i've got the driver installed, but when i do ''modprobe ndiswrapper'' i get ''invalid argument''. any suggestions on debugging/fixing this? the network card is using the wpndis51 driver (wavelan 1200).
[05:26] <LjL> mrspinx2: (i know it output the script itself, but i want to check out if it output all of it)
[05:29] <Cuddles_in_KY> anyone?
[05:29] <mabus> How do I install a package that's on a cd? Like, install a package onto an ubuntu system from a xubuntu cd or vice versa.
[05:30] <mabus> I like xcfe but ubuntu has more useful programs.
[05:30] <tupa> excuse me: where are the apt files downloaded?
[05:30] <sundried> hi, is there a console base network configuration tool for dapper server?
[05:30] <LjL> mabus: "sudo apt-cdrom add", with the CD inserted
[05:30] <LjL> mabus: then "sudo apt-get update"
[05:30] <woro2006> hi
[05:30] <mabus> sundried: you mean like, ifconfig? :/
[05:31] <woro2006> how do I manually add/remove gnome session start up commands
[05:31] <mabus> LjL: I went into the respositories menu and added the cd. That didn't work.
[05:31] <woro2006> where do I find that file?
[05:31] <sundried> mabus: no i don't want to edit /etc/network interfaces.
[05:31] <mabus> LjL: I assume those commands accomplish the same thing.
[05:31] <defrysk> tupa, /var/cache/apt/archives/ you mean ?
[05:31] <LjL> mabus: i don't know, i don't have Gnome, so i don't know what the repositories menu accomplishes
[05:31] <woro2006> after I add beryl-manager to session start up, it won't start again
[05:31] <mabus> sundried: Well what do you want to configure in regards to your network?
[05:31] <woro2006> it crashes every time
[05:32] <mabus> LjL: Well actually that was in xcfe, but alas. I'll try those commands when I get home to my xubuntu box.
[05:32] <woro2006> so I want to remove it so that beryl-manager doesn't start up automatically
[05:32] <sundried> mabus: i just can't remember the name of that package i should apt-get but i know there is a console based network tool where you can just enter ip address, subnetmask, gateway, dns.
[05:32] <P2K> woro2006 System/preferences/Sesion/
[05:32] <LjL> mabus: well Gnome or Xfce - whatever, it's KDE that i use ;)
[05:32] <LjL> sundried: ifconfig? :o)
[05:32] <sundried> sort of like apt-get install netconfig. anybody remember?
[05:32] <woro2006> I can't even login
[05:33] <woro2006> as that user, how can I edit session
[05:33] <tupa> defrysk: yes, that is, i found some deb files i just downloaded, can i install with them if i format my pc (same os)?
[05:33] <mabus> sundried: Well I bet you know what you're doing but you can do all of that with ifconfig.
[05:33] <woro2006> gnome crashes every time after I added "beryl-manager" as the startup command for that user
[05:33] <Dreamglider> can i get all my bookmakrs from firefox in windows to firefox in ubuntu ?
[05:33] <defrysk> tupa, with caution you can most app are available with apt-get tho
[05:33] <mrspinx2> LjL: http://pastebin.ca/257642
[05:34] <woro2006> now I want to edit that manually to remove beryl-manager from starting up
[05:34] <Cuddles_in_KY> i'm having a slight problem using ndiswrapper on my laptop. i've got the driver installed, but when i do ''modprobe ndiswrapper'' i get ''invalid argument''. any suggestions on debugging/fixing this? the network card is using the wpndis51 driver (wavelan 1200).
[05:34] <P2K> Dreamglider: yes
[05:34] <sundried> LjL: i know about ifconfig, editing /etc/networks/interfaces, editng /etc/resolv.conf etc. i just want to remember that console based network configuration tool.
[05:34] <Dreamglider> P2K, how pleas
[05:34] <kippi> hey
[05:34] <mrspinx2> hmm, don't know if that pasted or not
[05:34] <dudanogueira> Dreamglider, you can export them and import, or use some plugins for syncing with a web site, or a ftp file
[05:34] <san_> njab it works fine thanks flor all yr help
[05:34] <LjL> mrspinx2, ok, i'm out of ideas, i can probably tell you how to make apt-get happy, but the package will risk not being fully removed
[05:35] <mabus> sundried: The GUI network-config is a frontend for ifconfig...
[05:35] <tupa> defrysk: yeah, but i need the sources after reformatting, otherwise, my wireless card will not compile
[05:35] <tupa> thx man
[05:35] <mabus> sundried: What do you want to do that ifconfig doesn't?
[05:35] <mrspinx2> hmmm
[05:35] <Dreamglider> dudanogueira, i cant export them, the i cant boot windows
[05:35] <kippi> I have a x300 with a wireless card, I have installed the drivers using nswrapper etc, it says the card is there and the driver is there but i still can't connect to my wireless network, anyideas?
[05:36] <mrspinx2> i need to reconnect - irssi is just acting up on me too much
[05:36] <Fall2Hell> how do i install ubuntu using the alternate cd??
[05:36] <sundried> mabus: what do you do if you want to start or stop network services? you type "/etc/init.d/network_service" stop right?
[05:36] <LjL> Fall2Hell: just boot from it and follow the instructions
[05:36] <dudanogueira> Fall2Hell, download, burn a disc, boot from the disk and follow the instructions
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> Fall2Hell: pop it in and go
[05:36] <sundried> mabus: would you rather do "/etc/init.d/networkservice start/stop" than to use rcconf?
[05:37] <sundried> mabus: to be able to install rcconf, you have to do apt-get install rcconf right?
[05:37] <we2by> isn't netscape and firefox the same webbrowser?
[05:37] <boink> sundried: ifdown eth0
[05:37] <mabus> sundried: It's an ifconfig option, I'm not on an ubuntu box right now. But to start it is ifconfig eth0 up for instance
[05:37] <boink> or ifup eth0
[05:37] <LjL> we2by: no
[05:37] <dudanogueira> we2by, they are based on the same engine
[05:37] <boink> netscape really doesn't exist anymore
[05:37] <boink> and mozilla was a complete re-write of the code
[05:37] <mabus> boink: It does on this crappy library box... :/
[05:37] <mrspinx> LjL : http://pastebin.ca/257642
[05:38] <boink> when they saw the netscape code in 1998, they decided a complete re-write was needed
[05:38] <sundried> mabus: now i'm looking for a rcconf tool like for network configuration. a console based tool that would just prompt me for IP address, netmask, gateway address and dns server ip's and not bother with ifconfig or editing /etc/network/interfaces.
[05:38] <P2K> Dreamglider: im looking for the link
[05:38] <sundried> mabus: i know there is a package that do just that. i just don't remember it's name so i can not apt-get it.
[05:39] <LjL> mrspinx: i saw the paste, but i have no clue unfortunately. i can probably tell you how to make APT believe that the package is fully removed, but you'll probably be left with a package that's *not* fully removed
[05:39] <mabus> sundried: Well that package would really be just a trivial way of working with ifconfig... you could write a script in a number of languages to do that in minutes.
[05:39] <highneko_> !lightscribe
[05:39] <boink> and what's wrong with joe interfaces ?
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lightscribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <boink> joe is a very easy editor to use
[05:39] <mabus> sundried: In fact since it asks for each, each time... it's really much more inconvenient than ifconfig.
[05:40] <highneko_> Has anyone got lightscribe working for ubuntu edgy?
[05:40] <KnowledgEngi> hellp
[05:40] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[05:40] <KnowledgEngi> fantastic
[05:40] <boink> !ask
[05:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:40] <Fall2Hell> tonyyarusso when i pop it at windows nothing appen windows don know the files.
[05:40] <LjL> mrspinx: just edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/joomla.postrm and add a line "exit 0" right after the first line, if you want that
[05:40] <linux_kid> Hey, has anyone got a broadcom 4311 card to work without linuxant?
[05:40] <KnowledgEngi> now timidity work good
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> Fall2Hell: reboot
[05:40] <KnowledgEngi> and use the correct soundfont
[05:40] <Curtman> Screw it.. I put a script in /etc/networks/if-up.d/ to fix my hostname..  It really shouldn't be this difficult to override the hostname from a dhcp lease.  :(
[05:40] <KnowledgEngi> i'm a genius
[05:40] <porcho> where can I find a irc channel on java-gnome?
[05:41] <jenda> porcho: you can try #ubuntu-java not sure if it's the right chan, though.
[05:42] <boink> Curtman: what does man dhclient.conf say?
[05:42] <Morrissey>  Wich driver should I use with ATI Radeon 9000? For now I have the "radeon" drivers, and beryl works, just kind of slow ...<--- FOR XGL/BERYL
[05:42] <TheShrimp> hello, i'm kinda new to ubuntu, how do you get ATI Drivers for it, once your done installing to get the correct screen resoultion?
[05:43] <boink> The  DHCP protocol allows the client to request that the server send it specific information, and not send it other information that it is  not prepared  to  accept.
[05:43] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell TheShrimp about ati | TheShrimp, you have a private message from Ubotu
[05:43] <KnowledgEngi> I think that the ubuntu howto about timidity need an update :)
[05:43] <KnowledgEngi> http://rafb.net/paste/results/XS7bfB36.html
[05:43] <linux_kid> Has anyone here got a Broadcom 4311 wireless card to work without Linuxant?
[05:43] <KnowledgEngi> i solved the problem using this procedure
[05:43] <pibarnas> is anyone having problems with swiftfox/firefox downloads on edgy amd64?? I can only download file correctly with opera...
[05:44] <mrspinx> LjL: :D thanks!
[05:44] <KnowledgEngi> is better install the soundfont in this path
[05:44] <KnowledgEngi> /usr/share/timidity/soundfonts/
[05:44] <Curtman> boink: Lots..  I figured this would fix the problem, but didn't:  supersede host-name "ultrix";
[05:45] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[05:45] <stoop> how do i debug why xine doesnt have sound Rythembox does ?
[05:45] <Curtman> boink: I have no idea why I can do the same thing with domain-name, and it works but host-name doesn't.
[05:45] <DreamerHxC> ubuntu doesn't work for me : my desktop gets freezed just after logging in, but ubuntu does work, do u know why?
[05:46] <P2K> ...
[05:46] <P2K> you said the samething works and doesnt
[05:46] <P2K> unless i read that worng
[05:46] <P2K> *wrong
 have u just installed it?
[05:47] <boink> Curtman: you need to set up your dhclient.conf to do what you what it to do
[05:47] <linux_kid> DreamerHxC: what do you mean?
[05:47] <DreamerHxC> that
[05:47] <boink> most people don't need a dhclient.conf
[05:47] <highneko_> Has anyone gotten lightscribe working for ubuntu edgy?
[05:47] <DreamerHxC> i cannot boot up with livecd ubuntu, but i can with livecd kubunut
[05:47] <Dreamglider> P2K, to me ?
[05:47] <boink> I've never used lightscribe :)
[05:47] <Curtman> boink: I realize that.  And I've configured dhclient.conf how I think it should be, but it still doesn't work.
[05:47] <elias_> is anybody using vmware server on edgy sucessfully? I was having some problems with it: https://launchpad.net/bugs/64773
[05:48] <TokenBad> is there a reason that nautilus would be crashing over and over and over?
[05:48] <P2K> Dreamglider: no im still looking for yours... sigh
 did you check the media?
[05:48] <Curtman> boink: That is why I am here.  :)
[05:48] <TokenBad> This is a fresh install of ubuntu dapper...just did install yesterday
[05:48] <DreamerHxC> i don't know why but with ubuntu my desktop gets freezed and I just can move my mouse, switch to console or ctrl + alt + backspace
[05:48] <boink> most people don't care, Curtman
[05:48] <DreamerHxC> I even tried ATi and nvidia and I get the same for both of them
[05:48] <P2K> Dreamglider: can you still access your windows partition ?
[05:48] <boink> but you don't want that
[05:48] <boink> what does google say?
[05:49] <stoop> so is ther anywhy why xine doesnt play and rythemBox does ?
[05:49] <Dreamglider> P2K, yes
[05:49] <stoop> *xine doesnt
 weird because I think in livecd it uses vesa driver for X...
[05:49] <DreamerHxC> really weird
[05:49] <defrysk> stoop, you need xinelibs extra codecs
[05:49] <DreamerHxC> i've been 3 days with this, i've left 3 different threas in forum but no one knows
 what are your monitor and your video board?
[05:50] <P2K> Dreamglider: do a search in your windows partition for bookmarks.html
[05:50] <DreamerHxC> monitor samsung 753dfx but I tried with another monitor
[05:50] <DreamerHxC> I tried with nvidia fx5200 (im using this right now) and ati 955
[05:50] <DreamerHxC> 0
 and the same problem...
[05:50] <DreamerHxC> yes
[05:50] <pibarnas> I have one too, working fine, here.
[05:51] <defrysk> !info libxine-extracodecs | stoop
[05:51] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[05:51] <DreamerHxC> I dont like kubuntu
[05:51] <stoop> thkx defrysk
 did you get the iso from the net?
[05:51] <P2K> Dreamglider: it will be along the lines... /media/hda1/Documents and Settings/USER/Applicaton Data......
[05:52] <DreamerHxC> yes
[05:52] <Dreamglider> P2K, yes i have it on my desk
[05:52] <DreamerHxC> and I got sent by mail an official ubuntu CD
[05:52] <defrysk> stoop, also win32codecs will come in handy with xine
 do you have ram enough?
[05:52] <P2K> Dreamglider: you found the file ?
[05:52] <DreamerHxC> and they do not even work for my PC, but they do work for other PCs
[05:52] <DreamerHxC> 1.2 GB
[05:52] <Dreamglider> yes
[05:52] <stoop> i got w32
[05:52] <defrysk> !w32codecs | stoop
[05:52] <ubotu> stoop: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:52] <defrysk> stoop, ok :)
[05:53] <stoop> just didnt know of xine-extra
 hummm, the troubles occurred only in your pc...
[05:53] <P2K> Dreamglider: then open firefox, Manage bookmarks, file>import
[05:53] <mirak> does anyone have a logitech remote ?
[05:54] <DreamerHxC> yes
[05:54] <DreamerHxC> only in my PC
 I can't think in nothing right now... did you system messages?
 did you see it?
[05:55] <TokenBad> is there a reason that nautilus would be crashing over and over and over?
[05:55] <TokenBad> This is a fresh install of ubuntu dapper...just did install yesterday
[05:55] <DreamerHxC> yes
[05:55] <DreamerHxC> I did everything
[05:55] <ProN00b> is there any gui ftp client for linux thats better than gftp ?
[05:56] <defrysk> !ftp
[05:56] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[05:56] <delire> ProN00b: just use Nautilus itself.
 here everything's working fine. You must bet there's a reason for it.
[05:56] <ProN00b> nautilus is not a client
[05:56] <dot_j> TokenBad: you could try deleting your .nautalis dir
[05:56] <ProN00b> it doesn't even show the ftp traffic
[05:56] <edgy> Hi, I launched dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but decided not to continue how can I exit normally from it?
[05:56] <TokenBad> pibarnas, it started after a reboot...
[05:56] <TokenBad> dot_j, would it reinstall itself?
[05:56] <TokenBad> or would I need to reinstall?
[05:56] <dot_j> that wouldnt reinstall it
[05:56] <edgy> ProN00b: what do you mean by better?
[05:57] <dot_j> just clear out settings
[05:57] <TokenBad> dot_j, ok....cause it crashes everytime open it to browse files
 the first reboot?!
[05:57] <s|k_> is it possible to copy a hdd from one to the other
[05:57] <TokenBad> pibarnas, no...like 3rd
[05:57] <s|k_> and then boot from the copy?
[05:58] <dot_j> TokenBad: i've had that happen to me with other apps - deleting the settings directory usually works for me (although i'm not sure that's the _best_ way to go about it)
 have you done some king of configuration mess, or install some weird application?
[05:58] <ProN00b> edgy, well, gftp looks crap (gui element placement fail) and handles alot of files kinda shit, so for something to be better it should not have those issues, still show me what its doing (raw ftp commands in scroll window) and give me an overall better experience
[05:59] <cello_rasp> wtf. Firefox won't open new pages
[05:59] <mc__> ProN00b: please don tbe so rude
[05:59] <lsproc> I have set my workgroup for samba, but when I go to Windows Network, nothing shows up
[05:59] <cello_rasp> I can enter a url into the address bar and it will load but it wont display!!
[06:00] <TokenBad> dot_j, I can't even find the .nautalis dir
[06:00] <LjL> TokenBad: .nautilus ?
[06:00] <ProN00b> mc__, dude, What ?
[06:00] <Delano> Hi... I can't log in as root when x starts up... it says "Administrator cannot log in from here"... what is wrong?
[06:01] <TokenBad> pibarnas, no...just the normal stuff, xchat, xmms, mplayer, klibido, par2, rar....and the restricted formats...and thats it
[06:01] <TokenBad> well the nvidia drivers
[06:01] <LjL> Delano: nothing. logging in as root graphically is just very bad, and it's disabled
[06:01] <ProN00b> TokenBad, files starting with a dot are hidden by default in nautius, enable "Show Hidden Files"
 the directory is there for sure. It has a dot before, it's ".nautilus".
[06:01] <Delano> LjL, but I could do it before
[06:01] <LjL> Delano: besides, in Ubuntu, root is disabled in general
[06:01] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Delano about root | Delano, you have a private message from Ubotu
[06:01] <dot_j> TokenBad: are you familiar with hidden directories? .nautalis is hidden (hence the .)
[06:01] <dot_j> in a terminal do cd ~
[06:01] <dot_j> ls -l
[06:01] <TokenBad> ProN00b, I can't open nautilus...thats why trying to fix it...it crashes
[06:01] <dot_j> sorry
[06:01] <dot_j> ls -al
[06:02] <Delano> LjL, I need to log in as root to edit a file in .x11
[06:02] <ProN00b> TokenBad, oh
[06:02] <LjL> Delano: why can't you use sudo for that?
[06:02] <Delano> LjL, I can try, but last time I did it wouldn't save any modified files
[06:02] <crayzee> LjL, do you remember me from earlier re: restarting edgy install/"critical temperature"?
[06:02] <AfterDeath> Delano: pull up terminal, and sudo <editor program>
[06:03] <edgy> ProN00b: did you try kbear?
[06:03] <LjL> crayzee: yes
[06:03] <defrysk> TokenBad, open nautilus with the cli and paste the crashing output to pastebin maybe someone can help you then
[06:03] <AfterDeath> Delano: it wouldn't let you save modified files because you weren't running the editor under sudo
[06:03] <LjL> Delano: don't know why that would be, but i find it very hard to relate it to sudo vs "real" root. do what AfterDeath said
[06:03] <ProN00b> edgy, kde ? kde is bad bad bad !
[06:03] <Acu> greetings. I am trying to make php and apache2.2.3 work and when I try to open any index.php the browser tries to save it instead of running it - any configuration in apache or php should be changed?
[06:03] <LjL> Delano: and read the bot's link about sudo
[06:03] <TokenBad> defrysk, with cli?
[06:03] <crayzee> LjL: well, I have found that it is the thermal_zone that is doing it (the shutdown temperature is the same as one listed in /proc/???/thermal_zone/???/something
[06:03] <crayzee> (-264C)
[06:04] <defrysk> TokenBad, command line interface like a console
[06:04] <TokenBad> defrysk, oh...
[06:04] <crayzee> So.. is there a way to disable thermal_zone in the kernel boot line?
[06:04] <LjL> crayzee: hmm well, but with acpi=off, i believe that thermal zone support shouldn't even be present
[06:04] <Delano> That's too tedious, LjL
[06:04] <LjL> Delano: uh?
[06:04] <Delano> I don't like to be locked out of my own system
[06:05] <TokenBad> defrysk, ok did nautilus in console and it just crashed right off...no output
[06:05] <crayzee> LjL, I dont think it starts with acpi=off
[06:05] <Delano> How can I bypass the root lockout?
[06:05] <ADminS> how i can test my VGA driver installed rite?
[06:05] <LjL> Delano: the page explains that. if you really want to do it, which you shouldn't.
[06:05] <LjL> crayzee: doesn't start because it gives the same problem, or doesn't start because of something else?
[06:05] <TokenBad> let me try rebooting yet again....brb
[06:06] <jernst> Delano: sudo -s and you'll be root
[06:06] <Delano> I'm a big boy, LjL, if I can drive a car without crashing it then I can run my OS without wrecking it :op
[06:06] <LjL> Delano: then do it by following the instructions on that page
[06:07] <Delano> Oh it's simple
[06:07] <crayzee> LjL: something else
[06:07] <LjL> Delano: you certainly aren't expecting us to spoonfeed you on something that is not supported, do you? that page has all the information that you asked for
[06:07] <lsproc> argh
[06:07] <Delano> LjL, no, sorry, I see it now
[06:07] <lsproc> I set my workgroup for samba, but it isnt showing up in Network
[06:07] <edgy> ProN00b: if kde is bad what's good?! ;)
[06:07] <Delano> LjL, I got distracted and didn't see your message
[06:07] <jernst> lsproc: check if samba is running
[06:07] <Delano> Anyway, let me try it now
[06:07] <Delano> Thanks
[06:07] <edgy> Hi, I launched dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but decided not to continue how can I exit normally from it?
[06:07] <Delano> If I'm not successful I'll be back soon
[06:08] <lir1> LjL: How do I change the default music player in gnome from being rhythmbox to something else?
[06:08] <LjL> lir1: i'm a KDE user
[06:08] <lsproc> jernst: It is
[06:08] <lir1> LjL: Ahh damn :)
[06:08] <dudanogueira> Sys > Prefs > Apps prefenciais (i am in gnome in pt-br)
[06:08] <dudanogueira> lir1, Sys > Prefs > Apps prefenciais (i am in gnome in pt-br)
[06:09] <defrysk> lir1, change the properties open with : of the file to <whateverapp>
[06:09] <jernst> lsproc: can you paste your samba config file to pastebin ?
[06:09] <bobbyshafter> anybody running E16 wm
[06:09] <LjL> crayzee: uhm perhaps try also "pci=noacpi"
[06:09] <dudanogueira> lir1, exactly, where i said you can change the mail client and web cliente
[06:09] <ProN00b> edgy, gnome ?
[06:09] <stoop> how do i update some version to the next ?
[06:10] <stoop> i dont even know what version i'm running
[06:10] <dudanogueira> lir1, click on a sample file, properties, open with, choose the programa and set it to all files
[06:10] <lir1> dudanogueira: where you said I already looked. It only stores Internet (web browser and email client) and system terminal... nothing else like a media player.
[06:11] <edgy> ProN00b: Umm! if talking worth silver, the silence worth gold ;)
[06:11] <Jimmey> In /dev/, which is my keyboard?
[06:11] <lsproc> jernst: http://lsproc.pastebin.ca/257672
[06:11] <Delano> LjL, it didn't work, I still can't log in as root
[06:11] <Jimmey> !root
[06:11] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:11] <ProN00b> edgy, yeah, you suck too
[06:11] <dudanogueira> Delano, you shoudnt login as root
[06:11] <dot_j> lir1: sys->pref->removable media controls the settings for autolaunching rhythmbox on cd insert and the like - otherwise the right click on a media file example dudanogueira gave will work for associating file types
[06:12] <ActivE> how can i install all the essential build tools?
[06:12] <LjL> Delano: what did you do exactly and in what order?
[06:12] <lir1> dudanogueira: and I already set the properties of all files to start with mplayer but thats not enough, when pressing the AudioPlay function key it attempts to start rhythmbox still...
[06:12] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell ActivE about build-essential | ActivE, you have a private message from Ubotu
[06:12] <defrysk> !build-essential | ActivE
[06:12] <ubotu> ActivE: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:12] <muge> hi all
[06:13] <lir1> dot_j: thanks, I see it now, seems like that's the one.
[06:13] <Delano> Wait, brb
[06:13] <ADminS> !partionmagic
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partionmagic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <ADminS> !partion magic
[06:13] <jernst> lsproc: can you access your computer from windows using \\<your_ip> ?
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partion magic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <z9999> We are new to Linux and have got most of the system working properly, and as it was factory installed, once received and connected to the internet we continue to get notice that there are updates, very many, 172 to be exact, available. We are uncertain of the importance of applying any or all of them and are worried of the possibility that one or more may create more problems to be solved,...
[06:13] <LjL> !fishing | ADminS
[06:13] <ubotu> ADminS: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[06:13] <z9999> I asked this question earlier today and lost the reply due to an important interruption, so I'm hoping someone might provide a new answer.
[06:13] <lsproc> jernst: Hang on
[06:13] <z9999> I don't have access to the system again until tomorrow so am trying to get prepared to take whatever action is necessary and will write down any reply for later use.
[06:13] <z9999> Could someone with extensive knowledge of Ubuntu please advide me of how I should handle updates to installed SW.
[06:13] <z9999> ...while at the same time unsure if any of them may eliminate existing problems. Mostly, we wish to avoid any possibility of doing anything that will necessitate the re-installation of the system as a whole.
[06:13] <ADminS> LjL: i just used it 2 times
[06:13] <edgy> ProN00b: I guess it's better not to be a be involved in personal accusations like this. Try to be more polite for your own benefit
[06:13] <ADminS> so whats wrong
[06:13] <we2by> !backup
[06:13] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !cloning
[06:13] <LjL> ADminS: yeah, without even knowing if the factoid was there. use private messages
[06:14] <stoop> how do i udate
[06:14] <ProN00b> edgy, lol, you told me to stfu first
[06:14] <defrysk> !language | ProN00b
[06:14] <ubotu> ProN00b: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:14] <ADminS> lol its not ur prob
[06:14] <LjL> z9999: i would install security updates at the very least. by the way, that was a bit of a flooding...
[06:14] <ProN00b> defrysk, wtf ?
[06:15] <LjL> ADminS: talking to me?
[06:15] <edgy> ProN00b: no I told you it's better that I keep silent than say kde is better than gnome
[06:15] <mypapit> awtf?
[06:15] <ADminS> nope am talking to another idiot
[06:15] <LjL> !attitude | ADminS
[06:15] <ubotu> ADminS: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:15] <lsproc> jernst: It asks for a username and password. I tried my main account, and it wouldnt like it
[06:15] <ADminS> when i want to talk to u will put ur nick
[06:15] <ProN00b> edgy, eh what ?
[06:15] <LjL> ADminS: well, you didn't put any nick.
[06:15] <ProN00b> edgy, please choose your words more carefully
[06:16] <LjL> !u | ADminS, by the way
[06:16] <ubotu> ADminS, by the way: Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[06:16] <edgy> ProN00b: every one has his opinion regarding software but bad language is not welcomed
[06:16] <ADminS> LjL: thats mean ur not ur business
[06:17] <stoop> how do i update
[06:17] <we2by> lol
[06:17] <dot_j> stoop: what do you want to update?
[06:17] <eyequeue> stoop, update what?
[06:17] <jerp> sudo apt-get update
[06:17] <we2by> stoop, if there are updates, you will see a nice orange icon in the systemtray
[06:17] <LjL> ADminS: stop saying it's not my business. as long as you're talking in this public channel, it's everyone's business
[06:17] <stoop> the latest updates
[06:17] <ADminS> lol
[06:17] <dot_j> stoop: what we2by said
[06:18] <jerp> open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get update
[06:18] <Jimmey> In /dev/, which is my keyboard?
[06:18] <ProN00b> edgy, its not like i am cursing without reason...
[06:18] <stoop> its the first time i work with ubuntu
[06:18] <eyequeue> stoop, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:18] <defrysk> stoop, all updates/upgrades wil be announced in your sytemtray
[06:18] <delire> stoop: do you want to upgrade Ubuntu to the latest version? is that what you mean?
[06:19] <LjL> ProN00b: cursing is not welcome period
[06:19] <stoop> yes
[06:19] <defrysk> !upgrade | stoop
[06:19] <ubotu> stoop: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:19] <stoop> thank you verry muth
[06:19] <edgy> ProN00b: anyway try not to use such words whatever the reason  is
[06:19] <defrysk> stoop, if not sure do a fresh install but make a backup first in either case
[06:20] <defrysk> !backup | stoop
[06:20] <thinh> should i change the first section to fglrx? Section "Device"
[06:20] <thinh> 	Identifier  "Generic Video Card"
[06:20] <thinh> 	Driver      "vesa"
[06:20] <thinh> 	BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
[06:20] <thinh> EndSection
[06:20] <ubotu> stoop: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !cloning
[06:20] <thinh> Section "Device"
[06:20] <stoop> oke
[06:20] <thinh> 	Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0] "
[06:20] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell thinh about paste | thinh, you have a private message from Ubotu
[06:20] <thinh> 	Driver      "fglrx"
[06:20] <thinh> 	Option	    "VideoOverlay" "on"
[06:20] <edgy> LjL: thx for supporting clean discussions
[06:20] <ProN00b> edgy, bleh, ok, let me put this in more family friendly words
[06:20] <delire> stoop: no problem!
[06:20] <LjL> ProN00b, by the way: "<ProN00b> edgy, kde ? kde is bad bad bad !" <- this is utter trolling.
[06:21] <ProN00b> LjL, no, you telling me that saying something is bad is trolling
[06:21] <Chousuke> ProN00b: wrong
[06:21] <defrysk> ProN00b, /j #argue
[06:21] <ProN00b> LjL, i don't think saying that something is bad is trolling
[06:21] <lsproc> jernst: Hello?
[06:21] <we2by> guys, take it to #lobby
[06:21] <LjL> ProN00b: but i do. bring this discussion to somewhere else
[06:21] <Chousuke> #ubuntu-offtopic, anyway
[06:22] <obductor> how i install SopCast ?
[06:22] <ProN00b> Chousuke, so disagreeing with sub-majority= trolling
[06:22] <obductor> how i install SopCast ? or webplayer
[06:22] <obductor> ?
[06:22] <ProN00b> LjL, defrysk suggested #argue
[06:22] <Tsool> Hiya folks. I ditched my old monitor and bought a new flatscreen, Acer AL196. Then I updated xorg.conf (edited the horiz- & vert-settings). I still get no resolution above 1024x768. Anything else I should tweak?
[06:22] <we2by> obductor, did a search using apt-cache first
[06:22] <LjL> ProN00b, whichever you prefer. i'd just use -offtopic
[06:22] <greenonion> Does anyone know if there is an app that will tell me exactly what motherboard I have.
[06:22] <we2by> !webplayer
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <obductor> we2by: but i need one player for web.. i know one ?
[06:23] <tsmithe> !info webplayer
[06:23] <Jimmey> greenonion, you could always just open up the case and look?
[06:23] <ubotu> Package webplayer does not exist in any distro I know
[06:23] <jernst> lsproc: sorry I was busy in another channel
[06:23] <defrysk> greenonion, dmesg does
[06:23] <dot_j> greenonion: sys->admin->devices?
[06:23] <mabus> So does anybody know how I could install packages from the xubuntu cd onto an ubuntu system or vice versa? I tried adding the cd as a repository source, and updated.. but I can't get any packages.
[06:23] <greenonion> It isn't labeled, and my wife threw away the box two years ago
[06:23] <mabus> I want to either put xcfe on an ubuntu box or rdesktop on an xubunt box.
[06:23] <we2by> mabus, why from cd?
[06:23] <lsproc> jernst: No problem, Latest status again was it asks for credentials, i give my main account ones and it gets denied
[06:23] <we2by> you can do it from the net
[06:23] <mabus> we2by: no internet at home
[06:23] <jernst> lsproc: so at least samba is working. You can check the logs to see why it doesn't like your password
[06:23] <we2by> no offense, but are you kidding?
[06:24] <lsproc> jernst: But I need to see my windows pcs from here
[06:24] <mabus> we2by: Why would I?
[06:24] <we2by> dunno, internet is like tv. a must have at home
[06:24] <obductor> we2by: sorry but i dont understand ubuntu :-s
[06:24] <LadyNikon> we2by: ha
[06:24] <obductor> we2by: i dont know programs for linux
[06:24] <sonium__> can anyone help me installing maple?
[06:24] <LadyNikon> we2by: geeks dont watch tv.
[06:24] <amimusa> hello, i am using xubuntu and the menu bar from Desktop has dissaperead. can somebody tell me the command for lunch it and how to fix it forver, please? thanks
[06:24] <obductor> i nedd one webplayer for web.

[06:24] <mabus> we2by: Yeah well, when you're at somebody's house for 2 weeks there is not much choice.
[06:25] <tsmithe> let's create a new #ubuntu channel
[06:25] <we2by> LadyNikon, they watch their stuffs on the net ;)
[06:25] <tsmithe> call it #ubuntu-less-busy
[06:25] <LadyNikon> we2by: winamp tv ftw :D
[06:25] <zenwhen> tsmithe: you could try #ubuntuforums
[06:25] <we2by> LadyNikon, does that really exist?
[06:25] <tsmithe> zenwhen, i'm in that
[06:25] <LadyNikon> we2by: yep
[06:25] <LjL> !offtopic
[06:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:25] <LjL> stop it
[06:25] <LadyNikon> i was watching a movie on it
[06:25] <mabus> LadyNikon: small internets
[06:25] <lsproc> jernst: Nothing in samba logs bout login, just a connection reset by peer for the pc that i was accessing from
[06:25] <we2by> LadyNikon, any similar  thing for xmms?
[06:25] <LadyNikon> i wanna get xmms upon it as well
[06:26] <we2by> or rhymthbox?
[06:26] <LadyNikon> we2by: i *think so* not sure
[06:26] <amimusa> anybody can help me ?
[06:26] <LadyNikon> amimusa: how did it disappear?
[06:26] <LadyNikon> is there any little arrows on the side?
[06:26] <LadyNikon> s/is/are
[06:27] <we2by> LadyNikon, haha, you need a tv tuner for it
[06:27] <LadyNikon> mabus: :)
[06:27] <LadyNikon> we2by: for winamptv no you dont
[06:27] <asfalt> or democracytv
[06:27] <we2by> Winamp TV is a plugin for Winamp that lets you control your TV tuner card from within the multimedia player.
[06:27] <LadyNikon> its just going to the video section of winamp.
[06:28] <LadyNikon> sorry Shourcast TV
[06:28] <sonium__> http://rafb.net/paste/results/yRPkME60.html <- looks like libraries missing, but what are the right packages?
[06:28] <LadyNikon> ermm shoutcast tv
[06:28] <jerp> TV tuner cards are for outside connections, right?
[06:28] <LadyNikon> jerp: allows you to connect your cable signal to your computar
[06:28] <asfalt> i just love how everything works in edgy. my first use of ubuntu and i am very impressed. all my hardware works with no problems
[06:28] <LadyNikon> asfalt: sweet
[06:29] <jerp> LadyNikon, , yeah, that's what I thought :)
[06:29] <eyequeue> asfalt, glad to hear you've had such good results
[06:29] <Delano> Hi
[06:29] <lsproc> jernst: The computers suddenly appeared on my pc. How wierd was that. Thanks anyway
[06:29] <we2by> asfalt, glad to hear that
[06:29] <we2by> :)
[06:29] <reon> How do I correlate sda numbers to (hd0,x) numbers ?
[06:29] <Delano> Is there a program for Windows that will allow me to view my ext2 partitions and copy files from there?
[06:30] <donmoog> Delano, yes
[06:30] <lsproc> Delano: Yes, hang on
[06:30] <reon> Delano ext2ifs
[06:30] <amimusa> LadyNikon, the menu bar. now the desktop is just a screen, no menu i need to use right button to access apps and ctr-alt to change between them. it's bored. help please
[06:30] <lsproc> Delano: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[06:30] <asfalt> yeah, i experimented with other distros and live cd's on this notebook and there was always something amiss, with this, everything works i mean even the special function buttons, wifi, suspending/cpu scaling, yeah i am still blown away :D
[06:30] <lsproc> Delano: It does read/write access :)
[06:30] <amimusa> ctrol-tab i mean
[06:30] <Delano> I used that before on Mandrake 9.2 and it messed up my user account
[06:30] <we2by> asfalt, lol
[06:30] <lsproc> Delano: Ok, hang on
[06:30] <amimusa> i guess i can run it with a command
[06:30] <we2by> edgy works almost out of the box on my macbook
[06:30] <amimusa> from shell
[06:31] <mypapit> we2by: almost? what do you mean by that?
[06:31] <we2by> mykilx, I had to load some drivers my self
[06:31] <HHak> Has anyone have had any trouble of enabling 3d hardware support for Radeon 9700 cards, on 6.10 ? It worked well for me in 6.06, but in 6.10 DRI is not working
[06:31] <jernst> lsproc: no prob, I didn't do anything anyway
[06:31] <we2by> and I get kernel panic form time to time
[06:31] <we2by> that's a known issue.
[06:31] <we2by> from*
[06:31] <HHak> also OpenGL not working
[06:32] <lsproc> Delano: http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs which is an app, or http://www.chrysocome.net/ext2ifs which is a driver. Both are read only
[06:32] <zmm> any application of open office is not starting on my ubuntu. what could be the reason and solution to ir
[06:32] <vivabenfica> good morning (as defined by when i wake up, noon on a saturday, yes!!!)
[06:33] <asfalt> greetings
[06:33] <angelblade17> greetings
[06:33] <HHak> hi
[06:33] <we2by> zmm, start it in the  gnome-terminal and see what errors it gives
[06:33] <jernst> reon: if you have only sd?? disks sda would be hd0 and the ,x would be the number after sda minus one
[06:33] <HHak> Has anyone have had any trouble of enabling 3d hardware support for Radeon 9700 cards, on 6.10 ? It worked well for me in 6.06, but in 6.10 DRI is not working also not OpenGL
[06:34] <vivabenfica> i am an intermediate linux user, so this question is embarrassing, but how on earth do you specify a skin for mplayer to use. i've followed the man instructions to no avail
[06:34] <angelblade17> my problem is similar to HHak , except i have a ati rage 128 tf
[06:34] <reon> jernst: I have sda1 -> sda8  I need to add mepis to my menu list but dunno which hd it would be
[06:34] <HHak> glxinfo reports: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:34] <zmm> I started ooimpress from terminal and it gave following error "[Java framework]  Error in function createUserSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).jav aldx failed!
[06:34] <zmm> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeExce ption'
[06:34] <zmm> /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice: line 233:  5463 Aborted                 "$s d_prog/$sd_binary" "$@"
[06:34] <zmm> ** (process:5448): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal earl y exit ...
[06:34] <zmm> "
[06:35] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell zmm about paste | zmm, you have a private message from Ubotu
[06:35] <lufis> In Dapper, Firefox 2.0 fonts in textareas are too small and are gray against a white background. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[06:35] <we2by> zmm, try reinstalling openoffice?
[06:35] <HHak> angelblade17: did it work well in 6.06 in your case also ?
[06:36] <zmm> we2by: is it the only solution. if yes how to do it!
[06:36] <angelblade17> to hhack:  no , im running ubuntu 6.10
[06:36] <amimusa> anybody can tell me the command to run the Apps menu, please?
[06:37] <lufis> amimusa: What do you mean?
[06:37] <eyequeue> amimusa, is your menuy missing?  needing updating?
[06:37] <FunnyLookinHat> lufis, is it like that for all websites?  if not, it's probably a problem with the site itself...
[06:37] <angelblade17> amimusa??   someone speak spanish???
[06:37] <zmm> amimusa: alt + f1
[06:37] <amimusa> i don't think so, i will try with an update
[06:37] <FunnyLookinHat> !sp
[06:37] <lufis> FunnyLookinHat: Nope, all websites. It's a fresh install of Firefox... I dunno
[06:37] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB
[06:37] <LjL> !es | angelblade17
[06:37] <ubotu> angelblade17: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:37] <eyequeue> amimusa, "sillall gnome-panel" should update the menu to current installation
[06:37] <FunnyLookinHat> woops.
[06:38] <angelblade17> okis
[06:38] <eyequeue> amimusa, killall rather
[06:38] <vivabenfica> i have put the stupid skin directory in ~/.mplayer/skins/directory as well as here /usr/local/share/mplayer/skins/directory and no luck, as well as editing ~/.mplayer/configure to point to skin directory
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> lufis, weird...   try changing the options under "View" on the menu bar...
[06:38] <vivabenfica> but it never finds it when i start with gmplayer or mplayer --gui
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> lufis, it might have some strange defaults or settings from firefox 1.5
[06:38] <donmoog> Is there an easy way to check if a package is proprietory, or free (libre) with dpkg/dpkg-query etc.?
[06:38] <lufis> FunnyLookinHat: Yeah, I thought about that. Damn default versions and such :P
[06:39] <zmm> w2by
[06:39] <eyequeue> donmoog, if it is in main, it is dfsg-free    apt-cache show foo | grep ^File
[06:39] <vivabenfica> any takers?? :)
[06:39] <zmm> how to reinstall open office.....current is giving following error
[06:40] <zmm> "[Java framework]  Error in function createUserSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).jav aldx failed!
[06:40] <zmm> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeExce ption'
[06:40] <zmm> /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice: line 233:  5463 Aborted                 "$s d_prog/$sd_binary" "$@"
[06:40] <zmm> ** (process:5448): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal earl y exit ...
[06:40] <zmm> "
[06:40] <LjL> !pastebin | zmm
[06:40] <ubotu> zmm: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:40] <LjL> zmm: when you have private messages (like the one from Ubotu), please read them. you're muted for 5 minutes
[06:41] <amimusa> eyequeue, i am using xfce4 i typed a ps aux but i don't know which process kill
[06:41] <Dreamglider> is there any program i can use on ubuntu that works with Skype ?
[06:41] <amimusa> manou@manou-desktop:~$ gnome-
[06:41] <amimusa> gnome-audio-profiles-properties  gnome-language-selector
[06:41] <amimusa> gnome-cd                         gnome-open
[06:41] <amimusa> gnome-doc-prepare                gnome-sound-recorder
[06:41] <amimusa> gnome-help                       gnome-volume-control
[06:41] <amimusa> gnome-keyring-daemon
[06:41] <eyequeue> amimusa, ah, that command was for ubuntu, unfortunately i don't know the xubuntu equivalent, i guess restarting x maybe
[06:41] <amimusa> sorry fro the flood
[06:42] <apokryphos> amimusa: please use the pastebin in the future
[06:42] <asfalt> when trying out new themes for gnome, should one place them in their home dir after downloading or directly in the /usr/share/gdm/themes location ?
[06:42] <vivabenfica> darn
[06:42] <donmoog> eyequeue: I'm actually trying to get a list of all the packages that are non-free. I figured dpkg --get-selections | awk '{ print $1 }', or dpkg-query -l | grep ^ii | awk '{ print $2 }'. From here though, I need to find out if a specific package is not free. Any ideas?
[06:43] <LjL> !info vrms | donmoog
[06:43] <ubotu> vrms: virtual Richard M. Stallman. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.11 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 92 kB
[06:43] <codecaine> can somebody help me get nvidia working in xorg
[06:43] <amimusa> no, i am without menu some time ago, and i trun off the computer, i decided to fix it today :) i hope so
[06:43] <donmoog> eyequeue: Or are you saying that anything not in main is not dfsg-free?
[06:43] <codecaine> I only can get x server to run on nv
[06:43] <donmoog> Thanks LjL !
[06:43] <eyequeue> donmoog, virtual richard m stallman :)  sudo apt-get install vrms
[06:43] <apokryphos> codecaine: please read the FAQ
[06:43] <donmoog> vrms sounds perfect ;-)
[06:44] <apokryphos> codecaine: it's all there =)
[06:44] <eyequeue> donmoog, just to be sure i've been clear:  main is free :)
[06:44] <dot_j> does vrms remove all binaries?
[06:44] <LjL> dot_j: it doesn't remove anything
[06:44] <dot_j> *non-free binaries
[06:44] <raghu206> mu vi editor doesnt function well help!!?
[06:44] <amimusa> i try in xubuntu, thanks
[06:44] <eyequeue> dot_j, it's informative only, no actions
[06:44] <donmoog> eyequeue: Thanks, I understand that. But does that mean anything outside of main is not free? :)
[06:44] <dot_j> so if you start from a default install and install vrms, you still will have non-free software on the system?
[06:45] <dot_j> ah... just info...
[06:45] <apokryphos> the Ubuntu CD comes with a lot of non-free stuff. Unless you do some serious hacking, there's no guarantees that that won't end up your system
[06:45] <donmoog> vrms is perfect, but that cron job just has to go ;-)
[06:45] <eyequeue> donmoog, no, restricted is about the only repo that i know is definitively non-free
[06:46] <apokryphos> ubotu: components
[06:46] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:46] <apokryphos> for more information
[06:46] <Zambezi> When I add an iprange in hosts.allow, should I do anything differnt compare to a IP? It's still sshd: <IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS> ?
[06:46] <dot_j> so why would linux-powerpc be included in the non-free list?
[06:46] <donmoog> eyequeue: Thanks, thats what I thought... which wouldn't really help me find a package that isn't free :-( vrms is a perfect answer though, so thanks.
[06:46] <eyequeue> donmoog, are you familiar with how to get rid of the cron job? :)
[06:46] <donmoog> eyequeue: But of course :-)
[06:47] <eyequeue> donmoog, i thought you might be :)
[06:48] <dot_j> heh - the cron vrms is great
[06:50] <eyequeue> what i don't like is that packages like grokking-the-gim[ or rutebook are considered non-free
[06:50] <TrioTorus> I get 'no such file or directoy when trying to launch a binary, even though that file is in the current directory.
[06:51] <NoUse> TrioTorus are you prefixing the command with ./ ?
[06:51] <eyequeue> TrioTorus, by design.  the current directory is not in your path.  ./foo  will launch foo, if it's executable and in your current directory
[06:51] <TrioTorus> NoUse, even that doesn't work
[06:52] <TrioTorus> root@sin:/houdini/bin# ./i3dconvert
[06:52] <TrioTorus> bash: ./i3dconvert: No such file or directory
[06:52] <eyequeue> TrioTorus, is it chmodded to +x?
[06:52] <TrioTorus> root@sin:/houdini/bin# ls -la i3dconvert
[06:52] <TrioTorus> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31140 2006-11-25 18:32 i3dconvert
[06:52] <TrioTorus> it is
[06:52] <we2by> does Firefox support Mathml?
[06:52] <eyequeue> TrioTorus, run "file id3convert"
[06:53] <TrioTorus> root@sin:/houdini/bin# file i3dconvert
[06:53] <TrioTorus> i3dconvert: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, stripped
[06:54] <zmm> ok...I've pasted my problem at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33943/
[06:54] <eyequeue> TrioTorus, with the full path to the executable, /home/houdini/bin/id3convert, or whatever
[06:54] <TrioTorus> I'm on edgy 64bit amd
[06:55] <elias_>  what is vmware-mui for?
[06:55] <TrioTorus> root@sin:/houdini/bin# /houdini/bin/i3dconvert
[06:55] <TrioTorus> bash: /houdini/bin/i3dconvert: No such file or directory
[06:55] <NoUse> TrioTorus thats probably why, thats a 32bit binary
[06:55] <sloncho> hi. is there a way to make Totem to autolaunch when I insert video DVD?
[06:55] <ActivE> Does anyone elses mouse behave strangely when you have the minimum acceleration under gnome?
[06:55] <TrioTorus> NoUse, well, it should just complain about the binar, right?
[06:56] <klaus_> wich program would you prefer to start programs by hotkeys?
[06:56] <eyequeue> TrioTorus, i thought amd64 would run 32bit apps, but i'm not fluent with 64 myself, could be mistaken (though that sounds weird if it didn't)
[06:56] <we2by> mozilla.org/projects/mathml/fonts
[06:56] <TrioTorus> oh, the 32bit library are not installed by default?
[06:56] <apokryphos> TrioTorus: Ubuntu/Debian's amd64 installs are "pure" unfortunately. They're not biarch-compatible
[06:57] <eyequeue> TrioTorus, your error message from bash seems to indicate it can't see that 32bit app, not that it can't run it
[06:57] <apokryphos> TrioTorus: this is covered in the faq
[06:57] <zmm> open office is not starting, It gave the error upon startup from the terminal which I've posted at  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33943/
[06:57] <LjL> eyequeue: "no such file or directory" can be misguiding at times
[06:57] <eyequeue> TrioTorus, that was why i suggested the full path, but again, i'm no 64 bit guy
[06:57] <TrioTorus> eyequeue, that's what I'm thinking too
[06:58] <eyequeue> LjL, yeah, apparently :/
[06:58] <HP_Administrator> I was attempting to run Ubuntu Live CD and neither Firefox nor Gaim could connect, where do I look to resolve this?
[06:58] <NoUse> TrioTorus what is this app supposed to do, from its title I'd be you can find a 64bit native app in the apt repo
[06:58] <mofturos> HP_Administrator:  at your network settings
[06:58] <zmm> I'm using ubuntu 6.10.....If I need to reinstall open office please tell me how to?
[06:58] <HP_Administrator> through Ubuntu or back in windows?
[06:58] <ADminS> how i can format /dev/hda8 fat32 ?
[06:58] <apokryphos> zmm: it's installed by default
[06:59] <LjL> ADminS: man mkfs
[06:59] <TrioTorus> NoUse: I don't have any problem running 64bit apps
[06:59] <iwkse> how to assign a terminal command as vim to an icon file click?
[06:59] <TrioTorus> Installing 32bit libs now
[06:59] <syntaxx> damn this is annoying.. im using xchat-gnome and when i joined different server other than ubuntu server it gives all the channel list and it makes me lag anyone know how to turn it off??
[06:59] <Serii> ADminS fdisk
[06:59] <Serii> or use gparted in graphic mode
[06:59] <eyequeue> TrioTorus, i'd like to make a side comment, though i'm sure you used 777 temporarily, but it's rather insecure to make something owned by root to be world-writable :)  just so others watching don't do it :)
[06:59] <zmm> apokryphos: yeah it's installed but it's not working any more it gave error when i started it. and i've posted the error at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33943/
[07:00] <LjL> ADminS: and man mkfs.vfat as well
[07:00] <LjL> Serii: fdisk does not format
[07:00] <NoUse> TrioTorus thats my point, why are you trying to run a precompiled 32bit binary that looks like it was compiled years ago
[07:00] <Serii> ahh okok
[07:00] <apokryphos> zmm: ok, one sec.
[07:00] <TrioTorus> eyequeue, good comment, but indeed, 777 was just for testing
[07:00] <TrioTorus> NoUse, it's proprietary software
[07:00] <eyequeue> okay, vfat vs fat32, for a usb flashdrive which is more appropriate?  i'm not up on ms fs's
[07:00] <ubuntu-user> Is it possible to use ubuntu server as a live cd?
[07:01] <TrioTorus> NoUse, and good stuff indeed it is
[07:01] <NoUse> TrioTorus what does it do?
[07:01] <LjL> eyequeue, "vfat" is just the linux filesystem name for the various FAT flavors. you'd normally use FAT32 i think
[07:01] <Serii> vfat is fat32? not?
[07:01] <TrioTorus> NoUse, best 3D graphics soft on the planet
[07:01] <eyequeue> ubuntu-user, nol, i believe only the live cd will, not alternate or server cds
[07:01] <LjL> Serii: not necessarily
[07:01] <TrioTorus> NoUse, check www.sidefx.com
[07:01] <ubuntu-user> eyequeue, thanks. is there any way to start ubuntu desktop/live without X?
[07:02] <ADminS>  fdisk /dev/sda
[07:02] <ADminS> Unable to open /dev/sda
[07:02] <Serii> LjL whats difference it??
[07:02] <ops> hello
[07:02] <donmoog> ADminS: You need to run as root (sudo fdisk /dev/sda)
[07:02] <LjL> Serii: i just said. <LjL> eyequeue, "vfat" is just the linux filesystem name for the various FAT flavors. you'd normally use FAT32 i think
[07:02] <donmoog> ADminS: But it goes without saying, be careful with fdisk, you can easily nuke your hard drive!
[07:02] <eyequeue> LjL, i actually used mkfs.ext3, as a bit of security-by-obscurity (i know) in case i lost the thing somewhere.  but was wondering the more standard choice, for the future :)
[07:02] <apokryphos> zmm: you can do this from synaptic. Select the OpenOffice packages and mark them for reinstallation
[07:02] <ADminS> donmoog: i did as room
[07:02] <TrioTorus> eyequeue, it's really going to be the 32bit libaries that I needed to install
[07:02] <ADminS> root*
[07:02] <Serii> LjL okok sorry i dont read this line
[07:02] <Serii> jeje
[07:02] <ADminS> lol ok
[07:03] <apokryphos> ubotu: synaptic | zmm
[07:03] <ubotu> zmm: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[07:03] <LjL> eyequeue: well, i think that's FAT32.
[07:03] <TrioTorus> eyequeue, thanks a lot, stupid, I know, but just 'No such file or directory' didn't ring that bell to me.
[07:03] <eyequeue> TrioTorus, and i imagine that will serve more needs than just this one, great
[07:03] <bobbie__4> I'm here, youre all welcome
[07:03] <donmoog> ADminS: Try ls /dev/*da - you may have /dev/hda instead of /dev/sda etc.
[07:03] <eyequeue> TrioTorus, as you see above, it didn't for me either, no worries
[07:03] <whta> I need to reinstall my video card drivers i think. can anyone help me out?
[07:04] <NoUse> whta what makes you think you need to reinstall your drivers?
[07:04] <jerp> whta, you'll ahve to unload the ones in it right now, and then load the ones you want
[07:04] <grimboy> Has anyone else experienced massive memory usage with democracy player? I'm at 500mb at the moment.
[07:04] <ADminS> donmoog: no no its sda :D
[07:04] <ADminS> am sure :D
[07:05] <ADminS> any way
[07:05] <whta> well sometimes the screen shows up in 256 colors, in some 3d apps the top 1/4th of the screen is messed up
[07:05] <ninn> Hello. I'd like to know if someone got beryl to work with a gforce 4 go.
[07:05] <ADminS> mkfs.vfat  -v /dev/sda5 ?
[07:05] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell ninn about beryl | ninn, you have a private message from Ubotu
[07:05] <HP_Administrator> mofturos, are those settings in Ubuntu or Windows?
[07:05] <LjL> ADminS: i don't think that alone will make it FAT32
[07:05] <ADminS> ok
[07:05] <apokryphos> ninn: why?
[07:06] <LjL> ADminS: man mkfs.vfat and look at the "-F" option
[07:06] <NoUse> whta have you looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if it says why it picks low color?
[07:06] <dunklerengel> hello someone could help me to install tls for amsn .96?
[07:06] <whta> nouse: no, i'll look now
[07:06] <ninn> cause it wasnt an answer.
[07:06] <LjL> ninn: no, but it told you that the correct channel to ask that question is #ubuntu-xgl and not this
[07:06] <ninn> its about nvidia-drivers, not beryl.
[07:07] <ninn> nor xgl.
[07:07] <jerp> ninn, I got it to work with a geforce fx 5600 (about a 3 year old card)  there is a black rectangle that appears in the bottom right at certain times
[07:07] <mofturos> HP_Administrator: in ubuntu .. go system - administration - networking
[07:07] <mofturos> and verify there
[07:07] <apokryphos> ninn: again, that's irrelevant (as strange as it is). Desktop effects related questions are in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:07] <HP_Administrator> thank you mofturos
[07:07] <dunklerengel> I have problems with amsn .96
[07:07] <ninn> okok ...
[07:07] <dunklerengel> someone could help me please??
[07:07] <mofturos> np
[07:07] <whta> nouse: where specifically in this log file should i be looking?
[07:08] <LjL> !helpme
[07:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:08] <NoUse> whta no way to know really
[07:08] <Dreamglider> when i play video files in full screen there are a lot of horisontal linse onscreen, how can i fix this ?
[07:08] <NoUse> whta I usually just search for keywords
[07:08] <dunklerengel> I can't install tls for amsn 96
[07:08] <DreamerHxC> please, can someone help me with my problem? -> http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12179
[07:08] <HP_Administrator> mofturos, is it easy or difficult to install Ubuntu to run beside Windows? or am I better off to run it as Live CD?
[07:08] <we2by> !mathml
[07:08] <donmoog> dunklerengel: What error does it give you when you select the TLS download?
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mathml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <dunklerengel> wait
[07:09] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell HP_Administrator about dualboot | HP_Administrator, you have a private message from Ubotu
[07:09] <robbbb> so i'm giving up on ubuntu for a server and using FC6
[07:09] <HP_Administrator> thanks LjL
[07:09] <emrik> oooh: )
[07:09] <highneko_> ninn: I don't know about where you should ask, but they're good with those kidna questions. Actually, I suggest installing nvidia drivers from this page http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA but skip the beryl part unless you want it.
[07:09] <MaHaGoN> I am having a problem with Firestarter, it throws this error when I try to start it up "Internal network device wlan0 is not ready" and I don't know how to fix it
[07:09] <dunklerengel> in spanish: error intalando el modulo Tls couldn't get....
[07:10] <HP_Administrator> LjL sorry, not familiar with IRC how do I get the Private Message?
[07:10] <bobbie__4> whisper quiet;y
[07:10] <LjL> HP_Administrator: you should have another window/tab open with Ubotu's message
[07:10] <LjL> !dualboot | HP_Administrator, anyway
[07:10] <ubotu> HP_Administrator, anyway: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:10] <whta> nouse: it says "Default visual is true color", however when I click the logout icon, for example, it is NOT true color, and 3d apps break on me
[07:10] <MaHaGoN> !firestarter
[07:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:10] <NoUse> whta what kind of card do you have?
[07:10] <dunklerengel> I downloaded it by myself but I doesn't work
[07:11] <ninn> i worked after that page, highneko_ - but the nvidia-installer says, i need the legacy-driver
[07:11] <whta> nouse: radeon x700 pro
[07:11] <whta> agp
[07:11] <donmoog> dunklerengel: Where did you unpack the amsn file to?
[07:12] <jerp> ninn, the nvidia legacy driver is in your synaptic updater.  Uee the search tool and enter legacy in it
[07:12] <jerp> Use
[07:12] <NoUse> whta I take you followed the normal ATI driver instructions?
[07:12] <dunklerengel> donmoog in usr/lib
[07:12] <whta> nouse: no, i was told that the driver i needed came built in with ubuntu
[07:12] <NoUse> whta not for 3d games I don't think
[07:13] <NoUse> !ati | whta
[07:13] <ubotu> whta: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:13] <robbbb> anyone in here got a clue about server installations?
[07:13] <jerp> Synaptic updater found in the Application/System/Administration
[07:13] <apokryphos> !anyone
[07:13] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:13] <donmoog> dunklerengel: Ok, so the first thing to check is to make sure you still have write access to this folder, as your normal user. If you don't have write access, amsn will not be able to install the TLS.
[07:13] <robbbb> i'll tell you why - becuase nobody usually knows the answer
[07:13] <ninn> ah .. thanks!
[07:13] <eyequeue> robbbb, the server cd is typically the best starting point
[07:14] <robbbb> yes i have that. it doesn't work with my perc2 controlller
[07:14] <ubuntu-user> /topic #
[07:15] <eyequeue> robbbb, that's hardware i'm not familiar with, perhaps the alternate cd?  or the bot's url upcoming?
[07:15] <donmoog> dunklerengel: /usr/lib is a bit of a strange place to unpack amsn. May I suggest you unpack to somewhere more suitable, e.g. /usr/local/amsn0.96/
[07:15] <eyequeue> !hardware | robbbb
[07:15] <ubotu> robbbb: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:15] <dunklerengel> donmoog, how can I do it as normal user? I'm new :(
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> Is "Install to hard disk" on the Edgy server install disk the same as "Install LAMP server" was on the Dapper server install disk?
[07:15] <robbbb> yeah i'm pretty sure they've removed support for it - LAME
[07:16] <donmoog> dunklerengel: No problem, we all start somewhere :) ...
[07:16] <robbbb> any idea how to get it going?
[07:16] <dunklerengel> oh but I unpakeck as root in usr/lib
[07:16] <blackbelt_jones> can anyone tell me how to start Ubuntu from the console?
[07:16] <elias_> why is it that I can get an IP via DHCP when plugged in via ethernet but not via WLAN with neither VMWARE player nor server? I configured both as bridged straight through.
[07:16] <kbird> tonyyarusso: no
[07:16] <DreamerHxC> please, can someone help me with my problem? -> http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12179
[07:16] <LjL> dunklerengel: bad idea
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> kbird: Is there a lamp metapackage to get in edgy later then?
[07:16] <donmoog> dunklerengel: Ok, if you still have the amsn zip/tar.gz file, I would unpack it to /usr/local/amsn/
[07:16] <dunklerengel> :( ok what have I do?
[07:16] <donmoog> dunklerengel: sudo mkdir /usr/local/amsn/
[07:16] <blackbelt_jones> wsorry, I didn't mean to ask that?
[07:16] <eyequeue> blackbelt_jones, "start" ubuntu?  if you have a console, i'd say it's running
[07:16] <diskus> something is wrong with edgy, boots alright on my laptop but then just hangs, dapper works fine
[07:16] <dunklerengel> ok wait please, I'll do it
[07:17] <blackbelt_jones> What I meant was
[07:17] <donmoog> dunklerengel: Then unpack it to that directory.
[07:17] <blackbelt_jones> can anyone tell me how to start gpm from the Ubuntu console?
[07:17] <LjL> diskus: DreamerHxC seems to have a similar problem
[07:17] <LjL> blackbelt_jones: sudo /etc/init.d/gpm start
[07:17] <robbbb> .....and yet again nobody can help. this dist REALLY needs some work!
[07:17] <eyequeue> blackbelt_jones, are you  looking for "startx" perhaps?
[07:17] <blackbelt_jones> nope, I think Ljl has it right
[07:18] <eyequeue> blackbelt_jones, general purpose mouse?  sudo /etc/init/d/gpm start
[07:18] <blackbelt_jones> thanx
[07:18] <DreamerHxC> but mine doesn't work in dapper neither
[07:18] <eyequeue> blackbelt_jones, gnome display manager?  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:19] <blackbelt_jones> nope, it's gpm that I need
[07:19] <blackbelt_jones> that ought a work, thanks
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> kbird: Ah, just found a screenshot that explains it all.  Never mind.
[07:19] <NoUse> DreamerHxC you might try running the memtest thats on the install cd
[07:20] <robbbb> i bet you're all under 25
[07:20] <LjL> !offtopic | robbbb
[07:21] <ubotu> robbbb: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:21] <robbbb> hahahahahahahahaha
[07:21] <blackbelt_jones> hmmm that didn't work, but I'm clearly on the right track... it tried, but the startup failed
[07:21] <dunklerengel> donmoog I did but it didn't work
[07:21] <donmoog> dunklerengel: What error did you get?
[07:22] <apokryphos> robbbb: now please behave :)
[07:22] <robbbb> where can i get old versions of ubuntu from?
[07:22] <dunklerengel> the same
[07:22] <Seveas> robbbb, releases.ubuntu.com
[07:22] <aSt3raL_> where can i find the usb-skeleton.c driver?
[07:23] <donmoog> dunklerengel: No problem. Did you unpack it to the new location at /usr/local/amsn/ ?
[07:23] <blackbelt_jones> damn, it's not working... grrr
[07:23] <robbbb> i need older than that
[07:23] <Seveas> aSt3raL_, in the linux-source-2.6.17 package
[07:23] <whta> !ati
[07:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:23] <cheesybobman> hi
[07:23] <Seveas> robbbb, then follow the link that says 'older releases'....
[07:24] <dunklerengel> yes I did
[07:24] <cheesybobman> can sum1 help me w/makin a boot disk?
[07:24] <LjL> cheesybobman: for what?
[07:24] <cheesybobman> ubuntu 6.10
[07:25] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell cheesybobman about boot | cheesybobman, you have a private message from Ubotu
[07:25] <donmoog> dunklerengel: Ok good. You now need to take ownership of that folder. For example, if your normal username is "foo", you would need to type: sudo chown foo:foo -R /usr/local/amsn
[07:25] <varsendaggr> Hey just wondering if anyone knows how to connect dual monitors in ubuntu
[07:25] <donmoog> dunklerengel: Hopefully, after you've done that, you can try the TLS thing again and it should download and work :)
[07:25] <whta> umm, is the fglrxinfo command supposed to show me this stuff about Mesa? or should it be ATI since I have an ATI card?
[07:25] <robbbb> sod it. it's going to have to be FC6
[07:26] <diskus> robbbb: ?
[07:26] <varsendaggr> i have an inspiron 6000 im runing on windows xp/ ubuntu
[07:26] <whta> oh never mind
[07:26] <cheesybobman> wait backup a minute
[07:26] <cheesybobman> how do you install this?
[07:26] <LjL> cheesybobman: what?
[07:26] <cheesybobman> ubuntu 6.10
[07:26] <dunklerengel> donmoog: so my user name is darkangel so I have to type: sudo chown darkangel:darkangel -R /usr/local/amsn ?
[07:26] <varsendaggr> and i am trying to connect a second monitor through the port on the back
[07:26] <robbbb> this dist needs too new hardware
[07:26] <LjL> cheesybobman: normally you just boot from the CD, and then click on the Install icon
[07:26] <alucard064> hello
[07:26] <donmoog> dunklerengel: Yes, perfect :)
[07:26] <varsendaggr> anybody? any suggestions???
[07:27] <dunklerengel> ok wait I'll do it
[07:27] <cheesybobman> but how do you make the cd if i downloaded the iso?
[07:27] <diskus> robbbb: fc6 probably needs too
[07:27] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell cheesybobman about install | cheesybobman, you have a private message from Ubotu
[07:27] <you_explorer_> hello friend i am new user in IRC  how i register my name pls help me?
[07:27] <LjL> cheesybobman: well, that's a Windows question ;-) i don't know. use a CD burning program
[07:27] <apokryphos> ubotu: register | you_explorer_
[07:27] <ubotu> you_explorer_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> !register | you_explorer_
[07:27] <LjL> cheesybobman: i suppose your CD burner came with one
[07:27] <robbbb> nope. they dont seem to take out support for older kit
[07:27] <tommyw> Can anyone point me in the right direction for adding KDE to my current installation (which is running GNOME)?
[07:27] <donmoog> dunklerengel: chown is the command to CHange OWNership. It's used like this: chown username:group filename. The -R means recursive, so it changes ownership of all files inside it. As with most shell commands, you can type "man chown" to find out more.
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> !burniso | cheesybobman
[07:28] <ubotu> cheesybobman: burniso is To burn an ISO CD in windows, mac, or linux, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[07:28] <TheGino_Frank> cheesybobman, Nero cd burning rom
[07:28] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell tommyw about kde | tommyw, you have a private message from Ubotu
[07:28] <TheGino_Frank> chee
[07:28] <TheGino_Frank> oops
[07:28] <Seveas> cheese?
[07:28] <varsendaggr> anyone know how to change the screen resolution to have dual monitors
[07:28] <apokryphos> ubotu: xinerama
[07:28] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[07:28] <TheGino_Frank> cheesybobman, burn the file as a ISO not data
[07:28] <dunklerengel> donmoog: Oh It works thank you so much!!!
[07:28] <tommyw> ty
[07:28] <varsendaggr> i think i alredy have a dual core processor but i dont know how to set resolution on ubuntu
[07:29] <varsendaggr> plz help
[07:29] <varsendaggr> anyone???
[07:29] <grimboy> xinerama | varsendaggr
[07:29] <grimboy> I mean something like that
[07:29] <LjL> !xinerama
[07:29] <apokryphos> varsendaggr: see what ubotu said
[07:29] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[07:29] <donmoog> dunklerengel: No problemo, Glad I could help :-) You can add a gnome menu item for amsn by clicking your System->Preferences->Menu Layout
[07:30] <eyequeue> "dual core" is unrelated to "dual monitors" though, right?
[07:30] <dunklerengel> thanks thanks, It's hard to use linux but I like more than have problems with virus with windows XD
[07:30] <varsendaggr> ok ty
[07:30] <grimboy> eyequeue, Yup
[07:30] <varsendaggr> ill look
[07:30] <grimboy> Xorg 7.3 is gonna be awesome.
[07:30] <illuminator> are there any ALSA gurus in the house?
[07:30] <donmoog> dunklerengel: Hehe, it can be confusing to start with. There's plenty of help around though, google, Ubuntu forums, IRC etc.
[07:31] <Jager> Hey
[07:31] <dunklerengel> but I like it at all XD jeje thanks
[07:31] <apokryphos> !anyone
[07:31] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:31] <you_explorer_> to apokryphos thnx 4 ur valuable information
[07:31] <apokryphos> hi Jager
[07:32] <Jager> I just installed ubuntu so that i could dual boot with windows
[07:32] <varsendaggr> ubotu: i am really confused about that page... im really new to ubuntu
[07:32] <apokryphos> you_explorer_: np :)
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i am really confused about that page... im really new to ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <Jager> except i cant boot into windows now..
[07:32] <apokryphos> varsendaggr: ubotu is a bot
[07:32] <Jager> it just says Starting up....
[07:32] <apokryphos> varsendaggr: which part are you having a problem with?
[07:32] <varsendaggr> o lol see shows how much i know about it :D
[07:33] <varsendaggr> do you know anything about dual monitors
[07:33] <Jager> And when using ubuntu i cant go to www.google.com BUT i can ping google.. and then go to http://googlesip
[07:33] <apokryphos> varsendaggr: follow the guide ubotu linked to. Which part ar eyou having a problem with?
[07:33] <ActivE_UK> Jager your dns settings are likely to be wrong
[07:33] <Jager> K, ill try to fic that later
[07:33] <ActivE_UK> find your isps dns settings and input them manually
[07:33] <Jager> How come i cant boot into windows though?
[07:34] <ActivE_UK> does grub give you the option?
[07:34] <Jager> yes
[07:34] <livingtm> Is /var the best place to store shared files like a media library?
[07:34] <Jager> i choose Windows xp proffessional
[07:34] <ActivE_UK> does it just print some text and then sit ther?
[07:34] <LjL> livingtm: hmm... i'd say not
[07:34] <varsendaggr> apokryphos: everything i dont get how the scripting and all that works... also like in windows you just chose a monitor config and chose the two monitor diagram and there it is ... is there something like that here?
[07:34] <whta> what is the command for mounting an ntfs drive so that you can actually read the files?
[07:34] <Jager> and it just sits there "Starting up....."
[07:34] <livingtm> LjL,  what is the best place? I just bought a 250GB HD, figured if i made that /var i could store my media on it.. where SHOULD i put a media library
[07:35] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell whta about ntfs | whta, you have a private message from Ubotu
[07:35] <ActivE_UK> then it is likely that grub is looking in the wrong place for your xp installation
[07:35] <eyequeue> !ntfs
[07:35] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:35] <Jager> How do i change it to find it?
[07:35] <ActivE_UK> goto /boot/grub
[07:35] <ActivE_UK> there should be a menu.lst file
[07:36] <apokryphos> varsendaggr: there's no scripting there; just editing of files. If you follow it carefully things should be ok.
[07:36] <LjL> livingtm, honestly i don't know, but /var doesn't sound too right to me. i'd store it somewhere in my home directory and share it, or you may perhaps create a "shares" user, or perhaps even just "/media/music" or similar
[07:36] <Jager> it needas to be on boot right? /dev/hdwhatever?
[07:36] <ActivE_UK> sudo open that file
[07:36] <varsendaggr> apokryphos: ok well i try but im a little confuse :/
[07:36] <donmoog> livingtm: I decided to make a /home/share/ folder, so it didn't compromise my home directory permissions. Maybe this is a suitable option for you
[07:36] <polpak> livingtm: /var/lib is probably the correct place
[07:36] <adrap> Hello, is it possible to install a backport of wine O.9.26 on ubuntu edgy ? Because wine 0.9.22 that comes with ubuntu edgy is completely fucked up.
[07:36] <LjL> livingtm: (that is, the last one only if you make it an ad-hoc partition)
[07:36] <ActivE_UK> err, not quite sure what u mean by that.
[07:36] <LjL> !language | adrap
[07:36] <ubotu> adrap: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:36] <apokryphos> varsendaggr: what card do you have?
[07:36] <polpak> livingtm: or rather a sub directory of /var/lib
[07:36] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell adrap about wine | adrap, you have a private message from Ubotu
[07:37] <cr4ftyb0n35> Hello
[07:37] <Jager> nvm.. i was readin somem other confusing instructions..
[07:37] <superlion> what program should I use in desktop to install software (instead of using apt-get in console mode)...?
[07:37] <apokryphos> superlion: Synaptic
[07:37] <livingtm> LjL,  so maybe /var is for system variable data, home is user variable data
[07:37] <apokryphos> ubotu: synaptic | superlion
[07:37] <ActivE_UK> if you find the entry which is labeled windows xp or w/e
[07:37] <ubotu> superlion: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[07:37] <LjL> superlion: there's "Add/Remove programs" in the Applications menu, or for something more elaborate, Synaptic in System/Administration
[07:37] <alucard064> i use kubuntu dapper and WG111 v2
[07:37] <superlion> apokryphos: it's not installed as default i thinkl
[07:37] <apokryphos> superlion: it is
[07:37] <alucard064> but when i do ifconfig wlan0 up
[07:37] <Jager> sop i go to /boot/grub
[07:37] <cr4ftyb0n35> I have an nVidia GeForce 6100 onboard. the drivers installed fine, and all the splash screen shows up right at the begining, but Ubuntu has this fade out effect, and the effect seems really clunky on my box
[07:37] <Jager> sudo oen menu.1st
[07:38] <TokenBad> how play mid files in ubuntu?
[07:38] <Jager> open*
[07:38] <alucard064> i dont see the blue led and i can find the reseau
[07:38] <LjL> livingtm: well, /var/www is usually for web servers for example. so /var might not be a bad place after all
[07:38] <cr4ftyb0n35> Does anyone have any idea?
[07:38] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell TokenBad about midi | TokenBad, you have a private message from Ubotu
[07:38] <ActivE_UK> sudo nano menu.lst
[07:38] <alucard064> someone can help me please
[07:38] <Jager> nano?
[07:38] <alucard064> in private
[07:38] <ActivE_UK> nano is a text editor
[07:38] <alucard064> thanks
[07:38] <polpak> livingtm: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE38
[07:38] <LjL> !pm | alucard064
[07:38] <ubotu> alucard064: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[07:38] <rausb0> !midi | TokenBad
[07:38] <ubotu> TokenBad: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[07:38] <Jager> i have gedit
[07:38] <ActivE_UK> ok use that
[07:38] <Jager> brb let me go open this all up on the other comp
[07:38] <jerp> I want to add a shell script but I'm padlocked out of my File System,   Can I gain access into it again or how long will this lock-out last?
[07:39] <kippi> hey
[07:39] <cr4ftyb0n35> I have an nVidia GeForce 6100 onboard. the drivers installed fine, and all the splash screen shows up right at the begining, but Ubuntu has this fade out effect, and the effect seems really clunky on my box
[07:39] <eyequeue> jerp, padlocked?
[07:39] <kippi> I have installed nswrapper and installed the driver for my wireless card, it can see the driver and the card, but I cannot connect to my wireless network, anyideas?
[07:39] <jerp> eye, the little padlock icon in nautilus is on the file system
[07:40] <apokryphos> ubotu: repeat | cr4ftyb0n35
[07:40] <ubotu> cr4ftyb0n35: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:40] <polpak> jerp: you don't have permissions to add files to the standard bin directories unless you sudo
[07:40] <DreamerHxC> please, can someone help me with my problem? -> http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12179
[07:40] <we2by> what html render engine does firefox use?
[07:40] <livingtm> polpak, yeah it sounds like thats mostly for system or application files. /home is probably the best place. /home/media or something
[07:40] <polpak> jerp: you can either use sudo to put the file in /usr/local/bin   or you can put the file in /home/username/bin if it's something intended primaraly for your user.
[07:41] <eyequeue> jerp, nor is it advisible.  use /usr/local/bin if you must, not /usr/bin
[07:41] <dougughasdfa> guys
[07:41] <dougughasdfa> I have a problem
[07:41] <apokryphos> !problem
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[07:41] <apokryphos> !problem is <alias> ask
[07:41] <ubotu> I'll remember that, apokryphos
[07:41] <apokryphos> !ask
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[07:41] <dougughasdfa> I am trying to hookup to my computer downstairs to so I can move my mp3 folder onto that computer
[07:41] <illuminator> I'm having trouble getting my sound card configured properly.  Machine is Alienware Area 51m 7700, lspci returns "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)" uses driver: snd-hda-intel
[07:41] <dougughasdfa> but I don't know how to get there
[07:42] <Jager> Active
[07:42] <dougughasdfa> I went to network settings
[07:42] <jerp> I just tried the  sudo nano /etc/cron-weekly/apt-security-updates  but it wouldn't let me save  :\
[07:42] <dougughasdfa> and windows network
[07:42] <dougughasdfa> and windows network
[07:42] <LjL> !enter | dougughasdfa
[07:42] <ubotu> dougughasdfa: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:42] <H3g3m0n> dougughasdfa: Is the folder shared?
[07:43] <Jager> ActivE_UK: Okay.. now im in a window that says grub>
[07:43] <dougughasdfa> idk
[07:43] <dougughasdfa> can I make a folder
[07:43] <Jager> I did this cd /boot/grub/
[07:43] <Jager> then
[07:43] <Jager> sudo gedt menu.1st
[07:43] <Jager> gedit*
[07:43] <ActivE_UK> ok
[07:43] <Tallen> anyone using the MCP51 chipset with Nvidia? I am having a time getting the sound card working.
[07:43] <ActivE_UK> so you have the grub menu list up now yes?
[07:43] <Jager> yes
[07:43] <LjL> livingtm: you know what? by reading http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html pointed to by polpak, i'd be tempted to say that /usr/local/share is a good place. but... uhm.
[07:43] <ActivE_UK> ok scroll down and find the entry for your windows xp
[07:44] <Jager> Well.. it just says like "push TAb for commands"
[07:44] <Jager> and then has a grub> where i can type something
[07:44] <ActivE_UK> where are you doing this from?
[07:44] <Jager> uh.. terminal
[07:45] <ActivE_UK> im not sure why you have a grub command line up :S
[07:45] <jerp> tallen, are you dapper or edgy?
[07:45] <Jager> lol
[07:45] <polpak> LjL: except that /usr/local/share has the same requirements /usr/share does, and /usr/share is supposed to be read only (ideally)
[07:45] <Jager> that what came up... maybe i can just manually open the menu.1st?
[07:45] <ActivE_UK> you should just have the menu.lst file open in gedit
[07:45] <Jager> ill go try that
[07:45] <LjL> polpak: well, if you "ideally" assume that your music collection is not changing ;)
[07:45] <Jager> brb
[07:45] <ActivE_UK> type this : sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:46] <LjL> polpak: after all, all of /usr is changing when you install programs. so, you can see adding new music just as you see installing new programs
[07:46] <Tallen> jerp: Edgy, I tried fetching Alsa 1.0.13 and installing direct from Source, the card is seen and listed in /proc/asound/cards, but I just get noise when I try to play an OGG with aplay.
[07:46] <donmoog> It depends on how the person would access the media I think. For example, if you're using mpd to serve up your music, it may be appropriate to use /home/mpd/ as the media source
[07:46] <Jager> i just went into /boot/grub/ and double clicked menu.1st lol
[07:47] <Jager> ok its open
[07:47] <polpak> donmoog: if you're using mpd I'd suggest /var/lib/mpd should be where the data is stored
[07:47] <ActivE_UK> well you can do that but you wont have write access
[07:47] <donmoog> Or maybe /var/music/. /usr/share/ and /var/lib/ seem wrong personally
[07:47] <Jager> Um.. lemme go check..
[07:47] <LjL> polpak: and while on debian-style systems you're really not supposed to touch /usr, /usr/local is an exception
[07:47] <defrysk> Jager, this way you have no perms to write in it
[07:47] <LjL> polpak: hmm, i'm really not sure that the location of a music library should depend on what program you're using to listen to it :-\
[07:47] <donmoog> polpak: If it was samba-shared, would you you use /var/lib/samba/ ? :S
[07:48] <renjith171> Beryl or Compiz which is d BEST
[07:48] <ActivE_UK> Beryl #beryl
[07:48] <LjL> !best | renjith171
[07:48] <ubotu> renjith171: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[07:48] <polpak> donmoog: if it was a global share for samba, then probably so yes
[07:48] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell renjith171 about beryl | renjith171, you have a private message from Ubotu
[07:48] -prrrrrrrrr:#ubuntu- lollino?
[07:48] <Jager> er ok Active...
[07:49] <Jager> io typed sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.1st
[07:49] <Jager> opened up a blank file
[07:49] <Narada> how do you disable a kernel module liek agpgart?
[07:50] <ActivE_UK> ok well i guess your config file is elsewhere. Im a noobie so maybe someone else can point you to the correct file.
[07:50] <Jager> no it was in /boot/grub/
[07:50] <Jager> cause when i opened it without write permissions i could see al the stuff in it
[07:50] <donmoog> Jager, ActivE_UK: That's a .lst - short for list, not 1st (first)
[07:50] <Jager> rofl
[07:50] <Jager> okay, brb
[07:50] <donmoog> Easy mistake :)
[07:51] <thenetduck> does anyone know how to install intel drivers my computer? I have a  Intel Corporation 82810 chip set
[07:51] <alecjw> ive installed bridge-utils, how do i make a bridge?
[07:51] <ActivE_UK> ty donmoog
[07:51] <rothgar> is there a setting I have to change to allow my windows box to see the samba share in ubuntu?  I can't view the share cause every usr/pass I tried doesn't work
[07:51] <Jager> ok now its open
[07:51] <ActivE_UK> ok now you will need to find the entry relating to windows xp
[07:52] <alecjw> rothgar: are you sure there is a pass? try no pass
[07:52] <alecjw> and user
[07:52] <renjith171> i got a problem with Linux dapperdrake...whenever i boot d sys .. i get  there is differnce in the boot sector and the backup.....and shwing somw offset values ..and later on saying .. not automatically fixing this... it takes too much time for me to get into GNU/Linux ,,i also use WINDOWSXP ..pls help
[07:52] <Rarj> Help ! Compiz on Edgy turns everythin upside down and mirrored
[07:52] <kitche> rothgar: samba uses it's own username password setup think there is a way to have it use your system password but I don't know how to do it myself
[07:52] <bobbie__4> format the windows partition. Use it for something useful like a second Linux distro
[07:52] <rothgar> alecjw: it doesn't let me leave both black
[07:52] <rothgar> blank*
[07:52] <thenetduck> would anyone be willing to help me get my scanner working?
[07:52] <bobbie__4> Bobbie's been Winders free since 2000
[07:53] <donmoog> thenetduck: Ubuntu should have installed the drivers for you automatically. Are you having a problem with a specific device?
[07:53] <bobbie__4> MRI Scanner
[07:53] <Rarj> Help ! Compiz on Edgy turns everythin upside down and mirrored
[07:53] <TheGino_Frank> thenetduck, intel does not support 82810 drivers anymore
[07:53] <thenetduck> donmoog I didn't know if I needed to install anything ...
[07:53] <apokryphos> Rarj: /msg ubotu compiz
[07:53] <kbird> Narada: put it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[07:53] <renjith171>  i got a problem with Linux dapperdrake...whenever i boot d sys .. i get  there is differnce in the boot sector and the backup.....and shwing somw offset values ..and later on saying .. not automatically fixing this... it takes too much time for me to get into GNU/Linux ,,i also use WINDOWSXP ..pls help
[07:53] <dLinkCrawxor> is edgy stable as?
[07:53] <dragonfyre13> hey guys, anyone feel like helping me out with a ralink issue?
[07:53] <thenetduck> donmoog im just a little confused... sorry...
[07:54] <donmoog> thenetduck: Eek, I misread - I thought you said 82801, not 82810 sorry
[07:54] <alecjw> so does anyone know how i can make a network bridge
[07:54] <alecjw> ?
[07:54] <thenetduck> donmoog whats the difference? does that mean that I don't the the proper drivers installed?
[07:54] <Zambezi> How can I change the mastervolume in the terminal?
[07:54] <dragonfyre13> I need some help getting a ralink card up and running in edgy. I very rarely use wireless elsewhere, but I need to use it with this.
[07:55] <dragonfyre13> is there something special in edgy that I need to do?
[07:55] <LjL> Zambezi: amixer set Master percentage%
[07:55] <thenetduck> donmoog i talk to a dude and he told me that i needed the 815resolutions or 915 resolutions drivers ....
[07:55] <renjith171>  i got a problem with Linux dapperdrake...whenever i boot d sys .. i get  there is difference in the boot sector and the backup.....and showing some offset values ..and later on saying .. not automatically fixing this... it takes too much time for me to boot into GNU/Linux ,,i also use WINDOWSXP ..pls help
[07:55] <dragonfyre13> install anything, configure something?
[07:55] <dragonfyre13> it's using a WEP key, if that helps.
[07:55] <donmoog> thenetduck: I'm not sure. What device are you talking about? (Video card? Sound? USB?)
[07:55] <Zambezi> LjL, Thanks!
[07:55] <dragonfyre13> I tried using network manager, but basically, it only shows the wired connection.
[07:55] <thenetduck> donmoog it's a video card but it's on the mother boad
[07:55] <thenetduck> mother board*
[07:55] <renjith171> can anyone help me
[07:56] <codecaine> hi I can't remember what do in xorg I got my graphic accell and nvidia drivers wroking trying to remember how I can get my screen aligned right anybody know?
[07:56] <dRk_sHd0w> I am installing a program and am try to add the .tar.gz to usr/local/src but it says I don't have the permissions to do that and I am the administrator does anyone know how to fix this ?
[07:56] <codecaine> its to far left
[07:56] <TheGino_Frank> thenetduck, ubuntu should have the driver
[07:56] <codecaine> about a inch
[07:56] <Jager> Active
[07:56] <Jager> I found something about windows xp professional at the bottom
[07:57] <ActivE_UK> ok , to title = windows xp or somthing like that yes?
[07:57] <Jager> yes
[07:57] <donmoog> thenetduck: Can you go to the menu System->Administration->Device Manager. From here, scroll down to your graphics card and tell us what it says
[07:57] <rausb0> dragonfyre13: what is the exact type of the ralink card?
[07:57] <renjith171> can anyone help me out with my problem i mentioned
[07:57] <ActivE_UK> there should be a line somthing like root(hd0,0) ?
[07:57] <Jager> yea
[07:57] <Jager> lemme check to be sure
[07:57] <LjL> renjith171: sudo dosfsck -ar /dev/yourdospartition
[07:57] <dragonfyre13> rausb0: I have no idea.
[07:57] <dragonfyre13> rausb0: how do I find out?
[07:58] <LjL> renjith171: choose option 1, unless it gives any strange messages
[07:58] <dragonfyre13> rausb0: dmesg?
[07:58] <rausb0> dragonfyre13: first, how is it attached? pci, usb, cardbus?
[07:58] <alecjw> does anyone know how i can set up a network bridge
[07:58] <donmoog> TheGino_Frank: Is the 82810 chipset supported by the i915 driver?
[07:58] <dragonfyre13> rausb0: internal
[07:58] <Jager> Active yes it says hd0,0
[07:58] <dragonfyre13> rausb0: laptop.
[07:58] <Jakadinho> hy guys i have BIG fawor to ask
[07:59] <apokryphos> !ask
[07:59] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:59] <TheGino_Frank> donmoog, dont know
[07:59] <Jakadinho> i hope someone can solwe my problem
[07:59] <Jakadinho> Here isthe thing. Until yesterday my laptop worked perfectly but since i install networkmanger-gnome and restart computer i get few blak screens and than it shows login screen (it should login automatickly) and when i enter Username and Pass i get few black screens agen and then logn windows apear.
[07:59] <Jakadinho> I tried to login in KDE but the same resault. I cannot even login in Terminal failsave.
[07:59] <rausb0> dragonfyre13: internal could be minipci or usb. any info with lspci or lsusb?
[07:59] <ActivE_UK> ok, when i had this problem that was the line that was causing it. Grub uses this line to locate your windows installation. hd0 says which hard disk to look at and the 0 says which partition.
[07:59] <dragonfyre13> rausb0: lemme see.
[08:00] <Jager> okay...
[08:00] <TheGino_Frank> donmoog, know that 82810 has no support drivers i run on 82810E
[08:00] <ActivE_UK> so for this to work in your case windows would be located on the first partition of the first hard disk. I think :P.
[08:00] <thenetduck> donmoog ok, so it say's Vendor: Intel Coperation Device: 82810 CGC [Chipset Graphics Status:Status Bus Type: PCI Device Type: Unknown Capiblities: Unknown
[08:00] <Jager> so i change it to hd1,1??
[08:00] <Jager> or what? theres two 0's lol
[08:00] <dragonfyre13> rausb0: nope.
[08:00] <Jager> hd0,0
[08:00] <dRk_sHd0w> I am trying to install a tar.gz and am trying to put the file inside usr/local/root and it's saying I don't have the permissions anyone know how to fix that??
[08:00] <ActivE_UK> Jager that entirely depends on where your windows installation is.
[08:01] <dRk_sHd0w> i mean usr/local/src
[08:01] <rausb0> dragonfyre13: without knowing the exact type we cannot continue
[08:01] <Jager> its on hd1.. i think
[08:01] <kitche> dRk_sHd0w: you need to use sudo
[08:01] <dragonfyre13> rausb0: hang on then.
[08:01] <ActivE_UK> ok which partition do you think?
[08:01] <dRk_sHd0w> what's sudo
[08:01] <Jakadinho> Here is the the thiing. Until yesterday my laptop worked perfectly but since i install networkmanger-gnome and restart computer i get few blak screens and than it shows login screen (it should login automatickly) and when i enter Username and Pass i get few black screens agen and then logn windows apear.
[08:01] <Jakadinho> I tried to login in KDE but the same resault. I cannot even login in Terminal failsave.
[08:01] <Jager> first
[08:01] <ActivE_UK> ok do perhaps hd1,0 would d it
[08:01] <kitche> !sudo|dRk_aHd0w