[08:16] <dreamon> using xubuntu 18.04.. is there a dark theme out there that works. or a tut to do so. some things I cannot read anymore on most themes.
[08:34] <Spass> dreamon, 18.04 comes with Adwaita Dark by default I think, and you can install arc-theme from the repos also
[08:36] <Spass> you can change the theme in "Appearance" (xfce4-appearance-settings) and window borders in xfwm4-settings
[08:39] <dreamon> Spass, I also tried. maybe its a upgrade issue. every theme I use a different part is colored so I cant read it easly.
[08:41] <dreamon> in german xubuntu "Themenkonfiguration" I can choose to user defined background configuration.. maybe thats the reason?
[08:42] <Spass> that tool was removed from 18.04 so yeah, it could cause the issues you've mentioned
[08:43] <dreamon> here its still alive.
[08:43] <Spass> try to disable its options and then check
[08:44] <dreamon> ok. have to reboot to make it visible.. (it told me)
[08:44] <dreamon> be back
[08:44] <Spass> what I meant was that this tool is no longer in 18.04 when you do a fresh install
[09:20] <Spass> (note to self, I need to remember to ask people with theme issues about any possible changes in "Theme Configuration" tool they'd made, probably it's a frequent case)
[09:24] <dreamon> Spass, That looks much better!
[09:25] <Spass> much better = the way it should :) nice to hear that
[09:25] <MapMan> Hi! I'm trying to build polyphone on latest Xubuntu and I'm running into some problems. If I build with qt4, the program segfaults on start up. If I build with qt5 it starts but then hangs if I try to open a soundfont. Anybody has any idea how to troubleshoot this? I built the same app (it's my fork) some time ago on  Ubuntu 16.04 LTS just fine. Maybe I'm using wrong versions of the dependencies?
[09:41] <well_laid_lawn> MapMan:  there should be errors during build time if there was a dependency issues, hopefully...
[15:46] <tommo1982> Hi, I recently upgraded from Xubuntu 14.04 to 18.04. Since then I am having problems with disk /dev paths changing when I have USB hub connected during boot. It never happened with 14.04. What I mean is, first SSD disk is /dev/sda, second HDD /dev/sdb and the hub I mentioned, which has SD card reader, was /dev/sdc before. Now it's set as /dev/sda and the drives as sdb and sdc. I need it to be like it used to, because I have hddpar
[15:46] <tommo1982> ons set during boot, which are not applied now. Is there a way to return to previous behaviour?
[16:42] <cruxeternus> I'm on Xubuntu 17.10.  I haven't seen a notification for 18.04 yet, even though I have it selected in the Updates tab on Software Updater.  Does that mean the upgrade is not really available, or are they just delaying/staggering notices to avoid hammering servers?
[16:43] <cruxeternus> (I mean, I have selected Notify me... "For any new version".)
[16:44] <flocculant> cruxeternus: it should show up - eventuallu
[16:44] <cruxeternus> Ok... just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something wrong on my end. :P
[16:44] <cruxeternus> Thank you!
[16:44] <flocculant> nah - the ubuntu release notes say it'll be a few days
[16:44] <genii> Bionic isn't in http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release yet
[16:45] <genii> ( when it is, will show up on the upgrade tool )
[16:45] <cruxeternus> Ah, thanks for that link... I'll check that next time :D
[16:46] <flocculant> genii: aah yea - that :)
[16:51] <drb1> did anyone's php 'stuff' break after updating?
[16:51] <drb1> My site doesn't work anymore and phpMyAdmin login page just renders a chunk of php code instead of the login form.
[19:12] <lovetruth> hello :)
[19:12] <lovetruth> I am a little puzzled...
[19:13] <lovetruth> why is my Windows 10 copying from D partition to my NTFS 1TB external HDD with 22 Mbps and on Xubuntu the same thing gets copied with around 4 Mbps!?...
[19:13] <knome> ntfs
[19:14] <lovetruth> I get that... but... the actual question is... "can it be fixed to that speed"?...
[19:16] <knome> i haven't done enough ntfs to know...
[19:19] <ondondil> Hello. I've found two bugs in Xubuntu Bionic but I'm not sure if these are already knows issues or not. I'm kinda lost and I don't know where to find bug reports so I decided to ask here. The first issue is that greybird doesn't look good with thunar-gtkhash https://i.imgur.com/IyeOyKV.png And the second issue is that after ejecting a drive from within thunar, the notification warning about data being written to that drive doesn't disappear
[19:19] <ondondil> at all. It just stays there indefinitely
[19:27] <ondondil> I'd be grateful if someone could point me to the right bug tracker where I could check if there are already open tickets for these or report my findings if this is something new
[19:29] <vivus> ondondil: is your problem xubuntu specific?
[19:33] <ondondil> Well, I'm not sure what exactly do you mean. Xubuntu is the only OS i use and I haven't tested if these problems occur on different distributions
[19:35] <ondondil> And actually I think I no longer need guidance in case of notification issue because thunar just crashed, half an hour after I ejected the drive and apport just picked that
[19:51] <alsetema> Hello there again. I was wondering if there is a way to reset the volume FN keys. The issue is that if for some reason I have to kill pulseaudio using pulseaudio -k, the fn volume keys stop working, so I was wondering if there was a way to reload that function manually. Thanks
[19:55] <Zeioth> is thunar-archive-plugin working correctly for you guys?
[19:56] <Zeioth> it doesn't show the option in the right click of the mouse for me
[19:57] <flocculant> ondondil: check launchpad first - if not try bugzilla
[19:58]  * flocculant remembers some issue with gtkhash - but not sure it was image related, not seen the thunar one
[20:01] <Spass> Zeioth, I had that issue too on my test install, but later on fresh install that I did on my laptop it was fine
[20:02] <Zeioth> I upgraded from alpha to LTS, it must be the reason
[20:02] <Zeioth> but everything else works fine
[20:04] <Spass> did you try reinstalling thunar-archive-plugin?
[20:04] <Zeioth> yeah, i've tried this sudo apt install xfdesktop4
[20:04] <Zeioth> sorry
[20:04] <Zeioth> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1030743/xfce-how-can-i-restore-the-option-to-zip-files-using-the-right-click-menu
[20:34] <NewGnuGuy1> Nice to see Xubuntu swap out Evince, File Roller, and GNOME Calculator in favor of Atril, Engrampa, and MATE Calculator. I had actually already done the exact same thing on my Xubuntu 17.10 install.


[08:29] <bryce> -amd is sync'd
[08:31] <bryce> tepsipakki: since the fedora mesa7/exa/etc. patches aren't compiling easily, I'm thinking about just doing a 12ubuntu4 tomorrow with as many valid patches as I've got, but omitting those particular bits.
[08:40] <tepsipakki> sounds reasonable.. remember to enable the old patches
[11:10] <mvo> patch 132 is the one that breaks compiz+nvidia+glx
[11:13] <tepsipakki> yes
[11:13] <tepsipakki> but it was added because of ubuntu-mobile?
[11:20] <seb128> and it makes gdk_window_set_composited() work correctly
[11:24] <tepsipakki> right
[11:24] <tepsipakki> is that patch upstream by now?
[11:25] <tepsipakki> does anyone know?
[11:26] <seb128> I think it is
[11:27] <tepsipakki> actually, I recall someone saying that the blob doesn't work with xserver-1.4
[11:27] <tepsipakki> & compiz
[11:35] <seb128> mvo: ^
[11:36] <mvo> tepsipakki: do you know if the 132 patch is part of xserver-1.4?  I can't easily check myself as git.f.o seems to have issues
[11:39] <tepsipakki> mvo: not offhand, but I can check that later
[11:39] <mvo> that would be much appreciated
[11:40] <mvo> aha, macslow just confirmed that it will be part of 1.4
[11:40] <mvo> yeah :)
[11:40] <tepsipakki> "will be"?-) it was released yesterday :)
[11:41] <tepsipakki> or maybe he meant 1.4.x
[11:41] <mvo> *cough*
[11:41] <tepsipakki> but anyway, it's nvidias problem now :)
[11:42] <mvo> I think I will test 1.4 for the bug too, just to double check
[11:48] <tepsipakki> cool, you can get debs from here: http://pkg-xorg.alioth.debian.org/debian
[11:48] <tepsipakki> video and input ABI has changed, so you need to update those too
[12:18] <seb128> tepsipakki: why do you think that desktop-file-utils should be changed to use ooo-calc?
[12:19] <seb128> tepsipakki: I'm not sure why gnumeric is used, I think that the idea was to use gnumeric if it's installed, so the default installation uses ooo-calc but if people install gnumeric that's probably to get it used
[12:23] <tepsipakki> seb128: right, I didn't recall how the fallback mechanism works
[12:24] <seb128> I'm not sure now if people with both installed should have ooo-calc or gnumeric used
[12:28] <tepsipakki> yep, that's a tough one
[12:29] <tepsipakki> here some people want to have gnumeric available, but some expect OO.o to open certain documents
[12:29] <tepsipakki> I guess there really is no silver bullet to the problem
[12:37] <seb128> I'll make ooo-calc the default since that's what we ship on the desktop and users can change it
[12:42] <tepsipakki> yep, thanks
[12:43] <tepsipakki> it's a bit confusing since some apps use /etc/mailcap and others don't :)
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #36319 in xorg-server (main) "xorg uses all CPU power." [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/36319
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #134772 in ubuntu "[gutsy tribe 5]  live cd fails to start, black screen after installation screen on ati mobility radeon x700" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134772
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #138087 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[gutsy tribe 5]  Changing screen resolution garbles display" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138087


[00:07] <iggimin> is there any way to customize keyboard shortcuts in Kubuntu?
[00:09] <cbwcjw> iggimin: System Settings -> Keyboard and mouse
[00:09] <Guest66769> hi
[00:10] <iggimin> cbwcjw: I've spent over an hour in "keyboard and mouse" - can't find a "launch terminal" option to set or a "launch browser" option - am I missing them?
[00:10] <iggimin> I want to launch a terminal with a keystroke
[00:10] <cbwcjw> One second
[00:13] <cbwcjw> Well that's annoying, I can find this for GNOME
[00:13] <cbwcjw> but not KDE
[00:13] <iggimin> right. me too.
[00:13] <iggimin> it is annoying
[00:14] <iggimin> plus, my onboard sound card works fine in gnome, but doesn't in kde - any idea there?
[00:14] <cbwcjw> That's wierd because they should just use the same mixer, but i'm not a sound guy here.
[00:15] <iggimin> I completely agree - I have a friend who writes sound apps for Linux and he says the same thing. but they don't use the same mixer - KDE is different
[00:15] <cbwcjw> http://fosswire.com/post/2007/10/yakuake-a-drop-down-terminal-for-kde/
[00:15] <iggimin> Anyone in here know how to get this sound card running?
[00:16] <cbwcjw> Well, that link MIGHT help, it's a fancy terminal emulator, but isn't what you were looking for.
[00:16] <iggimin> that's a helpful link there cbwcjw :)
[00:17] <cbwcjw> Sure thing, I google EVERYTHING. If I help you with something I learn it too. Win/win.
[00:17] <iggimin> next question - where is the list of startup items in Kubuntu? I can't find it either
[00:17] <iggimin> I want to add some items to start with X
[00:18] <iggimin> (or K or whatever it's called, heheh)
[00:18] <cbwcjw> Autostart, in advanced tab in System Settings
[00:21] <iggimin> hooray! that worked! Heheh, I added Yakuake to it also :)
[00:21] <cbwcjw> Awesome. Glad to help.
[00:38] <Guest23151> hello
[00:53] <user__> 8600040
[01:02] <prepeat> hi all
[01:03] <cbwcjw> hello
[01:03] <prepeat> how to save all the currently installed packages list as a script so that i can make an indentical setup on anohter ubuntu machine?
[01:04] <Pici> !clone | prepeat
[01:05] <prepeat> ok , thank you very much
[01:06] <Pici> np
[01:06] <cbwcjw> does anyone know how to change the amount of time the notification thingy stays up?
[01:07] <prepeat> one more thing, this list has only names of packages, is there a way to make a listing with the url of the packages with wget sort of thing, so that i can download all the packages on a high speed network machine and then bring the download to my home machine?
[01:09] <prepeat> please be aware that i can not do apt-get on the fast network machine, because of other unix flavor and limited priviliages
[01:22] <prepeat> any idea please ?
[01:22] <prepeat> how do i create a download script for all the installed packages ?
[01:22] <Ademos> Kubuntu 9.10 I've looked through every KDE menu I can find, but I'm not able to adjust the theme color of selected tables. Is anyone familar with the method to change the color of the tabs?
[01:36] <rgarcia> Hi all! I'm running under Kubuntu 9.10 x64, and I can't listen to the music on youtube channel, does anybody know how to fix it?
[01:40] <prepeat> can u hear audio in vlc playe rgarcia
[01:41] <rgarcia> yes i can...normal...vlc, amarok
[01:41] <prepeat> this is a problem with 64bit flash player may be. let me see if i can find u something
[01:42] <rgarcia> sorry, on vlc, i can't hear too
[01:42] <prepeat> so u can hear in amarok only ?
[01:42] <rgarcia> yes, only mp3
[01:42] <rgarcia> on amarok
[01:43] <prepeat> check what audio device vlc is using?
[01:43] <rgarcia> let me see
[01:43] <prepeat> and make sure it is using the same device as amarok does
[01:45] <rgarcia> on amarok, where do i find that?
[01:51] <mefisto__> rgarcia: check your mixer settings for muted channels or volume sliders too low, especially PCM channel
[01:54] <CPrgmSwR2> Is there any progress from kubuntu on improving driver support?
[01:54] <mefisto__> CPrgmSwR2: driver support for...?
[01:55] <CPrgmSwR2> I have had a sound issue for 2 years now
[01:55] <rgarcia> mefisto__: where do i find that. sorry, but i'm new in linux
[01:55] <mefisto__> CPrgmSwR2: laptop?
[01:55] <CPrgmSwR2> yes
[01:55] <mefisto__> CPrgmSwR2: me too. intel HDA?
[01:55] <CPrgmSwR2> Yep
[01:56] <CPrgmSwR2> I filed a bug and everything
[01:56] <mefisto__> rgarcia: in kmix (the speaker icon in the systemtray) or type alsamixer in konsole
[01:57] <CPrgmSwR2> I guess I don't understand why it worked for a year or so, and then it got broken and is no longer working
[01:58] <CPrgmSwR2> Should I give up on sound?
[02:00] <mefisto__> CPrgmSwR2: I gave up on it, but have you seen this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845 lots of people have had success. you'll at least know it's hardware config quirks and not really a driver problem
[02:03] <mefisto__> rgarcia: did you find the mixer?
[02:06] <CPrgmSwR2> mefisto__: no help
[02:06] <CPrgmSwR2> I have a Codec: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa) which is not listed
[02:10] <rgarcia> mefisto__: sorry, yes, i found...is everything alright
[02:25] <Bsims> Anyone know of a PPA where I can download vlc 1.0.5 or 1.0.4 for Ubuntu Karmic?
[02:25] <shadowhywind> hay all, i'm wondering is there a way to force xev to see keystroks?
[03:00] <Walzmyn> dude, don't change your name in here
[03:17] <ev0sx1> yo dolks
[03:17] <ev0sx1> lol
[03:17] <ev0sx1> folks
[03:17] <ev0sx1> where does kde store it's user preferences?
[03:17] <ev0sx1> i've done a search on the /
[03:17] <ev0sx1> but not with much luck.
[03:18] <ev0sx1> I created a new partition on which i installed a new linux version, and so i wanted to copy the preferences of the old konversation to this one.
[03:18] <ev0sx1> already searched online on the official docbase but with no luck also
[03:19] <cbwcjw> user preferences? Like /home/user?
[03:19] <cbwcjw> Show hidden files, its all there
[03:19] <ev0sx1> no
[03:19] <ev0sx1> the user preferences of kde
[03:19] <ev0sx1> sorr
[03:19] <ev0sx1> y
[03:19] <cbwcjw> Yeah, they are there I'm pretty sure.
[03:19] <ev0sx1> konversation irc client
[03:19] <ev0sx1> ok
[03:19] <ev0sx1> thanks
[03:19] <cbwcjw> !enter
[03:19] <FloodBotK3> ev0sx1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:19] <ev0sx1> gonna check it out
[03:22] <ev0sx1> cbwcjw: there is noting on the home folder!
[03:22] <ev0sx1> even with hidden files showing up
[03:22] <ev0sx1> any other suggestion?
[03:25] <cbwcjw> ev0sx1: http://chuckw.com/irc/snapshot5.png
[03:25] <cbwcjw> you don't see any of that?
[03:25] <ev0sx1> closest i found was this
[03:25] <ev0sx1>  media/disk/home/ev0sx1/.kde/share/apps/konversation
[03:25] <ev0sx1> and it only has the log folder on it
[03:26] <cbwcjw> What are you looking for.
[03:27] <ev0sx1> assuming when you configure konversation it saves the preferences on a text based file, where can i find them?
[03:27] <ev0sx1> usr/bin?
[03:27] <cbwcjw> Well I don't use konversation, but in ~/.kde/usr/share/apps/kopete had ALL of my saved info
[03:27] <cbwcjw> in XML
[03:28] <ev0sx1> lemme check
[03:28] <ev0sx1> FOR FUCK SAKE
[03:29] <ev0sx1> THIS UNIX DIRECTORY STRUCTURE GETS ME SO PISSED OUT
[03:29] <cbwcjw> Hmmm?
[03:29]  * ev0sx1 trashes the pc out the window
[03:29] <cbwcjw> It's better than having spaces in all your major folders.
[03:30] <ev0sx1> sorry
[03:30] <ev0sx1> it is just that after so many years using windows, i get confused and lost sometimes trying to solve even basic things
[03:30] <ev0sx1> that where dead easy on windows
[03:31] <cbwcjw> Yeah, don't worry. I'm 16, and grew up with windows. To even use this is hard enough and i'm on my own.
[03:32] <ev0sx1> just a few hours ago i installed a fresh linux build, on a new partition (to don't loose my settings and files on the other partition where i originally had linux). So, then i thought: hey, it would be great if i could "reconfigure" linux to use my previous "home folder" where i have all my stuff
[03:32] <cbwcjw> Well, it's a lot easier to make a home partiton,
[03:32] <cbwcjw> So all your settings follow you.
[03:33] <cbwcjw> But it's entirely possible.
[03:33] <ev0sx1> so i went, searched a bit, thinked a bit, and then i went to user management and setted up the folder on the previuous partition. All ok. Rebooted, and guess what? i forgot to automount the partition on fstab
[03:33] <ev0sx1> so i was unable to login
[03:33] <ev0sx1> xD
[03:33] <cbwcjw> hahahah!
[03:33] <ev0sx1> AND HAS I AM A FUCKIN NEWB
[03:34] <cbwcjw> Fun stuff, especially when you discover you did something wrong with grub.
[03:34] <cbwcjw> that's the best.
[03:34] <ev0sx1> i was unable to figure out the blkid of the previous partition to add it to fstab
[03:34] <ev0sx1> erm
[03:34] <ev0sx1> i already did!
[03:34] <ev0sx1> it was a bitch to update to kde 4.4
[03:34] <cbwcjw> Really?
[03:34] <ev0sx1> it fucked all my system up
[03:34] <ev0sx1> lol
[03:34] <cbwcjw> I did it from gnome...
[03:34] <ev0sx1> are you using U or Kubuntu?
[03:35] <cbwcjw> Kubuntu
[03:35] <ev0sx1> erm
[03:35] <cbwcjw> But I was like, hey, ill switch to KDE
[03:35] <ev0sx1> but you were using gnome before, and just switched window manager?
[03:35] <cbwcjw> from an install of ubuntu
[03:35] <cbwcjw> so I added the PPA then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:36] <cbwcjw> and yeah.
[03:36] <cbwcjw> I like to start from stock ubuntu
[03:36] <cbwcjw> then go from there.
[03:36] <ev0sx1> OMAGAD
[03:36] <ev0sx1> now heres a crazy bloke
[03:36] <ev0sx1> i prefer fresh build
[03:36] <ev0sx1> s
[03:36] <ev0sx1> from my previous experiences, it isn't good. lol
[03:37] <ev0sx1> NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY!
[03:37] <AzikaCorp> yes, it is better to install  a fresh kubunnut
[03:41] <ev0sx1> AzikaCorp: indeed!
[03:41] <cbwcjw> It sure is, but then, I also didn't plan on switching to KDE. I was bored on a weekend. A fresh build is better, but so far I trust this one.
[03:42] <AzikaCorp> cbwcjw: of course, if you don't meet any problem, you don't need a fresh build ^^
[03:43] <cbwcjw> True.
[03:44] <AzikaCorp> cbwcjw: so you prefer KDE ?
[03:45] <ev0sx1> at least i do :P
[03:45] <cbwcjw> AzikaCorp: Oh by a longshot. I always have but stayed away from it during the KDE4 fun.
[03:46] <juank> todos aki son putos
[03:46] <juank> bitvh
[03:46] <cbwcjw> I went from this: http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5343/screenshot6wy.png
[03:46] <ev0sx1> lol
[03:46] <cbwcjw> to this: http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1285/snapshot2a.png
[03:46] <Speedy2> wow.
[03:47] <AzikaCorp> jussio1: WTF o_O !
[03:47] <AzikaCorp> jussio1: sorry, the message was for juank
[03:47] <cbwcjw> so just the possibilities of KDE theming and usabilty swayed me.
[03:47] <ev0sx1> hehehe
[03:47] <ev0sx1> nice theme
[03:47] <ev0sx1> i have the default one
[03:47] <ev0sx1> lol
[03:48] <ev0sx1> google chrome: nah
[03:48] <ev0sx1> cbwcjw: what do you think that it is my best option?
[03:49] <cbwcjw> Better than FF and Konq
[03:49] <cbwcjw> ev0sx1: probably just copy the .kde folder
[03:49] <cbwcjw> but make a backup first
[03:50] <AzikaCorp> D
[03:50] <ev0sx1> cbwcjw: and another thing...
[03:51] <ev0sx1> i have this partition of 10gb where i have installed kubuntu 9.10. And i have the other 80gb where i HAD installed the system. I have lot's of games, and files there.  Ask around here or forum.
[03:53] <ev0sx1> O.o
[03:53] <ev0sx1> kay thnks
[03:55] <AzikaCorp> ev0sx1: use qparted to resize your partition
[03:56] <Speedy2> cbwcjw: How much time did you spent getting your desktop to look the way you wanted in KDE4?
[03:56] <cbwcjw> Speedy2: 2-3 hours. But I also compiled the bespin theme from source
[04:13] <ev0sx1> anyone around?
[04:13] <cbwcjw> No
[04:15] <ev0sx1> lulz
[04:15] <ev0sx1> forget it
[04:15] <ev0sx1> i think i already know how to do it
[04:15] <ev0sx1> http://www.go2linux.org/how-to-move-home-directory-to-another-partition
[04:15] <FloodBotK3> ev0sx1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:15] <ev0sx1> just have to be sure how to find the UUID of the device properly so i can add it correctly to FSTAB so it automounts
[04:30] <cbwcjw> night
[04:38] <webbb823> ok i need some help im running kde 4.4 and whenever i add a widget the the desktop or panel it will crash plasma here is the error i get  http://pastebin.com/m7058da3d
[04:38] <webbb823> Application: Plasma Workspace (kdeinit4), signal: Segmentation fault and that
[05:12] <Brhad56> So.. the system just updated the adobe flash plugin.. and now hulu don't work
[05:12] <Brhad56> bad update?
[05:19] <Brhad56> maybe came from third party.. removing package.. removing other sources.. then reinstalling seemed to woek
[05:43] <francisco> hola
[05:43] <francisco> oigan alguien de aki le sabe bien al kubuntu?
[05:43] <francisco> ????
[05:52] <e_t_> !es | francisco
[05:53] <gnac> how can I disable the tap to click on my touchpad???
[06:00] <gnac> gnac: in System Settings > Advanced > Autostart > Add Program... add  "syndaemon -d -t"
[07:54] <DarkriftX> any kde 4.4 users around?
[07:54] <DarkriftX> trying to map the middle mouse button to cube spinning like i can in compiz. hoping this is possible
[08:01] <ForgeAus> !botsnak
[08:01] <ForgeAus> !botsnack
[08:01] <Tm_T> K'day all
[08:01] <DarkriftX> lol
[08:01] <ForgeAus> hey Tm_T :)
[08:04] <AzikaCorp> DarkriftX: I am using KDE 4.4
[08:04] <DarkriftX> can you set a mouse button to let you move the cube like in compiz?
[08:05] <DarkriftX> in compiz i can hold my mouse scroll wheel down (button 3) and it zooms out of the cube so I can spin it by moving the moues
[08:05] <DarkriftX> really hard to work with the cube without something like this
[08:09] <AzikaCorp> I don't use cube anymore, I prefer the grid
[08:09] <AzikaCorp> DarkriftX: sorry ^^
[08:10] <DarkriftX> hrmmmm
[08:10] <DarkriftX> was hoping to get rid of compiz
[08:12] <DarkriftX> getting errors about kio not loading when trying to view files (dolphin and konq)
[08:12] <DarkriftX> anyone know how to fix this?
[08:20] <DarkriftX> anyone know the best way to fix:
[08:21] <DarkriftX> unable to create io-slave klauncher said: error loading kio_file
[08:44] <Darkrift> w00t!
[08:44] <Darkrift> kde4 lets me use the mouse to move cube!
[08:44] <Darkrift> just hard to find it (mouse actions under desktop settings)
[08:59] <greenmang0> hello friends... how can i get GTK + integration to work with Openoffice just like Firefox?
[09:01] <rethus> how can i start firestarter at boottime with root-permissions?
[09:01] <greenmang0> the openoffice kde integration doesn't look good on my system.. how can i switch back to gtk look?
[09:02] <rethus> i got always error-dialog on startup that i doesn't have root-permissions
[09:02] <rethus> and have to start firestarter manualy
[09:03] <petsounds> greenmang0, did you mean the themes?
[09:05] <greenmang0> petsounds: i usually use System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK + integration to set QtCurve theme .. it's working in case of Firefox but not OpenOffice
[09:08] <petsounds> greenmang0, ahh sorry mate idk much about KDE but maybe you can install openoffice.org-style-human. not sure though.
[09:08] <greenmang0> petsounds: tried ... didn't work :(
[09:11] <greenmang0> petsounds: wow... i removed 'openoffice.org-kde' and installed 'openoffice.org-gtk' ... it worked
[09:12] <petsounds> greenmang0, sweet :)
[09:15] <DarkriftX> man, kde4.4 is really nice
[09:15] <DarkriftX> they have fixed just about every gripe i had, but the solutions are kinda hard to find
[09:16] <ForgeAus> DarkriftX: unintuitive for you perhaps
[09:17] <ForgeAus> but maybe thats because your used to other things
[09:17] <DarkriftX> id say more like too many options
[09:17] <eagles0513875> just wondering what is this virtuoso package
[09:17] <DarkriftX> like the cube mouse mapping wasnt in the settings place where *all* other cube settings were, it was in the right click menu where you change wallpaper
[09:17] <DarkriftX> makes no sense, but at least i found it
[09:17] <ForgeAus> !info virtuoso
[09:18] <ForgeAus> hmm...
[09:19] <ForgeAus> eagles what virtouso package?
[09:29] <jschall> i installed kde 4.4 and the users & groups settings don't work any more. can anyone else reproduce this issue?
[09:29] <jschall> by going system settings, advanced, user management in 4.4?
[09:33] <ForgeAus> jschall, just an idea, try running it with kdesudo first?
[09:34] <jschall> ForgeAus: running what with kdesudo?
[09:34] <jschall> ForgeAus: it asks me for a password
[09:34] <ForgeAus> kdesudo system-settings
[09:34] <jschall> ForgeAus: so i assume its already doing that
[09:34] <ForgeAus> ahh if you've logged in with your pass your right I guess it isn't necessary...
[09:34] <ForgeAus> ok well it was just an idea...
[09:35] <ForgeAus> sorry, I don't think I know how to help
[09:35] <jschall> i need to get at some kind of utility for that
[09:36] <jschall> unless someone can tell me how to modify a user's privileges from the command line such that they can use audio?
[09:36] <Vroomfondle> adduser myuser audio
[09:37] <jschall> thank you sir
[09:58] <|apriori|> hi all
[09:58] <|apriori|> I got like 141 packages kept back for upgrade.. why is that the case and how can I resolve it?
[09:59] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade
[09:59] <|apriori|> hm...
[10:00] <|apriori|> should this also happen when using the backports ppa?
[10:00] <bazhang> good question, not sure about that, as to how dist-upgrade interacts with backports ppa
[10:01] <|apriori|> because I only have karmic repos in sources.list + kubuntu-backports
[10:01] <|apriori|> but running apt-get dist-upgrade seems to pull all in
[10:01] <bazhang> then its fixed?
[10:01] <|apriori|> I'm not quite...
[10:02] <|apriori|> because I dont want my entire system to take an completely unstable branch...
[10:02] <bazhang> are the held back packages installed
[10:02] <|apriori|> so I'm curious about the result
[10:02] <|apriori|> yes
[10:02] <bazhang> that wont do it
[10:02] <bazhang> dist-upgrade is not upgrade to a different version
[10:02] <|apriori|> then the name of the command is missleading
[10:03] <|apriori|> anyways... thank you
[10:03] <bazhang> np
[11:01] <zubin71> hi i have a package in rpm format ; how do i install it directly on my machine?
[11:02] <zubin71> any other way than using alien?
[11:04] <Vroomfondle> alien is the only way to do it, I think
[11:05] <Vroomfondle> well actually, you can install 'rpm' from the repositories and use that, but it won't update dpkg's databases so you may wind up with a conflict in the future
[11:07] <zubin71> ok
[11:07] <zubin71> Vroomfonfle
[11:07] <zubin71> Vroomfonfle thankx :)
[11:07] <zubin71> Vroomfondle thankx :)
[11:56] <sathyashrayan> can any one help me in this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1400401
[12:32] <silv3r_m00n> is there a phone book app on kde   ?
[12:34] <tsimpson> silv3r_m00n: try kaddressbook
[12:47] <nonameNN> hey channel
[12:58] <lalalol__> hi
[12:58] <lalalol__> ive entered the command: sudo apt-get remove chromium
[12:58] <lalalol__> to remove the game chromium, but its still there :S any help?
[12:59] <bazhang> lalalol__, how was it installed and from where
[12:59] <nonameNN> sudo apt-get remove chromium --purge -y && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge -y
[12:59] <bazhang> !info chromium
[12:59] <tsimpson> don't recommend people use -y
[12:59] <lalalol__> bazhang, i dont remember exactly, i wanted to install chromium (the browser) and someone made me install that game :/
[12:59] <nonameNN> lalalol__: try that command i said
[13:00] <avihay> I believe that chromioum has change it's name to chromioum-bsu
[13:00] <lalalol__> nonameNN, but tsimpson says i shouldnt use the -y thing
[13:00] <nonameNN> lalalol__: dont type -y
[13:00] <lalalol__> uhm, what do i type then?
[13:00] <nonameNN> lalalol__: sudo apt-get remove chromium && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[13:00] <tsimpson> the -y make it not prompt you for confirmation
[13:00] <lalalol__> ok
[13:00] <tsimpson> nonameNN: btw, you can use autoremove with a package name too
[13:00] <avihay> I think you need sudo apt-get remove chromium-bsu
[13:01] <nonameNN> lalalol__: just purge the stupid package and see what happens
[13:01] <lalalol__> its giving a lot of output
[13:01] <nonameNN> lalalol__: where u tryin to install chromium-browser?
[13:01] <avihay> and sudo apt-get remove chromium-bsu-data
[13:01] <lalalol__> nonameNN, i have the browser, :)
[13:01] <nonameNN> lalalol__: u can always use synaptic too
[13:02] <lalalol__> OMFG, now the whole Game menu is gone!!! :@@@@@
[13:02] <lalalol__> and wine is gone too!!!!
[13:02] <lalalol__> dude!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:03] <nonameNN> lalalol__: use synaptic if u dont understand what u are doin in terminal...
[13:03] <lalalol__> dude, only that game had to be uninstalled, not Game and wine :@
[13:03] <nonameNN> reinstall packages u want and thats it
[13:04] <nonameNN> use synaptic next time
[13:04] <lalalol__> dude, the Game menu is gone from the Kmenu!!!!
[13:04] <nonameNN> probably games are gone too
[13:04] <nonameNN> sudo apt-get install kdegames or something like that
[13:04] <nonameNN> search in SYNAPTIC!
[13:05] <lalalol__> u dont get it huh? the game menu is gone, chromiumbsu was the only game installed, i just want that menu back
[13:05] <nonameNN> it wont appear unless u have a game installed...
[13:06] <lalalol__> u sure?
[13:06] <nonameNN> im very sure
[13:06] <lalalol__> ok, what about wine then?
[13:06] <lalalol__> the configure wine is gone
[13:06] <nonameNN> try it... sudo apt-get install chromium
[13:06] <nonameNN> HAHA
[13:06] <nonameNN> sudo apt-get install wine?
[13:07] <lalalol__> ... wine is still in the Kmenu, and a game is still in it, im just missing some options
[13:07] <nonameNN> check right clicking the menu icon and editing menu...
[13:07] <lalalol__> i have
[13:08] <lalalol__> cant do anything
[13:08] <nonameNN> i think u can add winecfg if u want manually
[13:08] <lalalol__> notepad is gone though :D
[13:08] <nonameNN> well u can always type winecfg and ur done
[13:08] <nonameNN> i have no idea what uve typed
[13:08] <nonameNN> nor what uve removed from ur packages
[13:09] <nonameNN> try reinstalling wine! ur .wine folder is still there so u wont loose any configurations nor games or anything
[13:09] <lalalol__> nonameNN, this is what ive typed
[13:09] <lalalol__> sudo apt-get remove chromium && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[13:09] <lalalol__> which u told me
[13:09] <lalalol__> wineconfig via the run command is gone
[13:09] <nonameNN> ok, thats ok... try reinstalling wine
[13:10] <lalalol__> ill uninstall it first?
[13:10] <nonameNN> nope sudo apt-get install wine and see what it says
[13:10] <lalalol__> i need the dev version
[13:10] <nonameNN> cant u type wineconfig on terminal?
[13:11] <nonameNN> why are u so worry about not having it on the menus?
[13:11] <lalalol__> gives an error
[13:11] <lalalol__> cuz it used to be there
[13:11] <nonameNN> edit the menus and add it
[13:11] <lalalol__> i cant add it back
[13:11] <nonameNN> are u using ppas?
[13:11] <lalalol__> for wine? i think so, i had 1.1.38
[13:11] <nonameNN> ok if wine is gone reinstall wine
[13:12] <lalalol__> its not completely gone
[13:12] <nonameNN> u think so?
[13:12] <nonameNN> ok... go to wines page and add their ppa and then update
[13:12] <lalalol__> its still there in the kmenu, ill search for the wine folder
[13:13] <nonameNN> why u want to do that?
[13:13] <nonameNN> the ppa is ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa and last version is 1.1.38-0
[13:13] <lalalol__> to see if its installed or not, so then i know if the kmenu is bugged
[13:13] <nonameNN> sudo apt-get install wine
[13:13] <lalalol__> wait dude
[13:14] <nonameNN> if its installed it will tell u that the package is in its last version
[13:14] <lalalol__> im gonna uninstall everything from wine first
[13:14] <nonameNN> lalalol__: why dont u install synaptic? its a really easy tool for managin packages and sources
[13:15] <lalalol__> i have synaptic
[13:15] <nonameNN> lalalol__: then open it and check there...
[13:15] <lalalol__> i dont understand it
[13:16] <nonameNN> u should add wines ppa if u want lastest version, sudo add-apt-reposiroty ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install wine
[13:16] <lalalol__> i first want to uninstall wine and everything from it completely!
[13:16] <nonameNN> lalalol__: thats why u might have a disaster on repos and packages...
[13:17] <Galvatron> Hi
[13:17] <Galvatron> On my Kubuntu 9.10, hhen I use "compiz --replace", the wallpaper and widgets on desktop disappear. Panels work as well as righht-click menu and windows (but without decoration). After that, I gen a debug message that Kwin crashed. My video card is Radeon 9200SE wih the latest X.org and open drivers from xorg-edgers. Reinstalling Compiz and X didn't help and so did creating xorg.conf with "X -configure" in recovery mode.
[13:17] <lalalol__> i entered sudo apt-get remove wine and it gave me: Package wine is not installed, so not removed
[13:18] <lalalol__> so with that command from u to uninstall chromiumbsu, i also uninstalled wine
[13:18] <shadeslayer> Galvatron: well i think you need to start nautilus too
[13:18] <docmax_> hi
[13:18] <docmax> hi
[13:18] <nonameNN> Galvatron: u have to install compiz-kde and in system preferences, prefered apps, theres an option to choose the windows manager, then u choose there compiz, dont do compiz --replace on kde...
[13:18] <lalalol__> and the kmenu is bugged cuz it still shows wine
[13:18] <nonameNN> lalalol__: thats probably why ur missing wineconfig
[13:19] <lalalol__> what to do with the wine menu in the kmenu then? it still shows my game :S
[13:19] <nonameNN> lalalol__: if u have installed something on wine and if u have .wine, ull have wines menu
[13:19] <lalalol__> imma search for .wine
[13:19] <nonameNN> lalalol__: if u uninstall wine it doesnt mean u uninstall software installed on wine
[13:20] <nonameNN> lalalol__: ok dude, i wont advaice u anymore...
[13:20] <nonameNN> Galvatron: got it?
[13:20] <lalalol__> so i need to install wine again and ill have everything like before? :S also my games?
[13:20] <lalalol__> game*
[13:20] <nonameNN> lalalol__: yes
[13:20] <lalalol__> WOW
[13:21] <nonameNN> lalalol__: its all in .wine this is not windows man
[13:21] <lalalol__> nonameNN, in my software sources, the ppa for wine is still there
[13:22] <nonameNN> lalalol__: then just reinstall it and ur done
[13:22] <Galvatron> Got it
[13:22] <lalalol__> ok, im gonna search for the command to install the dev wine
[13:23] <nonameNN> Galvatron: u probalby dont want to mess with Xorg or anything about xconfig... its just a package so kde can support compiz and then telling kde to use compiz insted of kwin
[13:23] <nonameNN> lalalol__: just sudo apt-get install wine, if wines ppa is in the repos the lastest version will be installed
[13:23] <lalalol__> alright
[13:24] <nonameNN> hope i helped, im gone!
[13:24] <lalalol__> wait
[13:24] <lalalol__> i got an error
[13:24] <nonameNN> lalalol__: what error?
[13:24] <Galvatron> I already have compiz-kde
[13:24] <lalalol__> nonameNN, ill paste to pastebin, hold on
[13:25] <nonameNN> Galvatron: ok, go to system preferences prefered apps and in windows manager select compiz, dont do compiz --replace
[13:25] <lalalol__> http://pastebin.com/d18907255
[13:26] <nonameNN> lalalol__: do a sudo apt-get update
[13:26] <lalalol__> got an error with that :/
[13:27] <nonameNN> lalalol__: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa && sudo apt-get update
[13:27] <Galvatron> Still the same
[13:27] <nonameNN> Galvatron: u have to restart kde man
[13:27] <Galvatron> But now it at least returned to Kwin
[13:28] <Galvatron> Restart KDE man - could you explain?
[13:28] <nonameNN> Galvatron: select compiz, logout and login
[13:28] <lalalol__> nonameNN, still no configure wine back, the last cmd u sent worked tho
[13:29] <nonameNN> lalalol__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[13:29] <lalalol__> error again
[13:29] <nonameNN> lalalol__: pastebin the error
[13:30] <lalalol__> http://pastebin.com/d4b9d5a52
[13:31] <AltrortlA> hello... I got a problem with my lan connection...
[13:31] <nonameNN> lalalol__: sudo apt-get remove wine --purge
[13:31] <AltrortlA> Ping ma gw <IP_ADDRESS> i got destination host unreachable (kubuntu 9.04). This happens in a Lan in witch gatway is <IP_ADDRESS> (that is the PC that have connection to share), the Local connection is <IP_ADDRESS> and the kubuntu PC is <IP_ADDRESS>..... The strange thing is that on the gateway PC I have set a Software (wireshark - do you know??) that relieve ARP message ... and a Second...
[13:31] <AltrortlA> ...Software that relieve the presence of <IP_ADDRESS> ... but I can't surf.
[13:31] <nonameNN> lalalol__: im sure ur missing a repository...
[13:31] <lalalol__> nonameNN, Package wine is not installed, so not removed
[13:32] <nonameNN> lalalol__: open synaptic and check there whats goin on...
[13:32] <nonameNN> sorry im gone
[13:32] <lalalol__> dude
[13:32] <lalalol__> ...
[13:32] <lalalol__> what to type in synaptic?
[13:33] <nonameNN> lalalol__: see what packages are missing what repos are broken u can do everything in a GUI 1000 times easier just read what pop-ups say
[13:33] <lalalol__> how do i see what are missing?
[13:34] <nonameNN> lalalol__: u can also ask in #ubuntu it seems im the only one answerin here... in #ubuntu there are more people, 4 times more people-..
[13:34] <nonameNN> lalalol__: read
[13:34] <nonameNN> lalalol__: read the screen
[13:34] <AltrortlA> HEI ... No tips?
[13:34] <lalalol__> ill click fix broken packages
[13:35] <Galvatron> No effect as well
[13:35] <lalalol__> nonameNN, if i go to #ubuntu, then i need to paste the whole convo...
[13:38] <lalalol__> brb
[13:40] <Galvatron> I'll try with KMS - BRB (reboot)
[13:41] <lalalol__> back
[13:41] <lalalol__> nonameNN, i have 2 ppa's for wine now...
[13:42] <Fieldy> hello, I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 yesterday. Shortly after, I started having a problem with one of (but not my other) external USB drive. Kernel logs say: "sd 11:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device", at which point it can't be used. It has to be unmounted, unplugged (USB) and plugged back in. Then it works, until the problem returns later. fsck shows no errors. The full description and full logs and other thoughts are here: http://paste
[13:42] <Fieldy> bin.ca/1799955
[13:42] <Fieldy> ah slightly too long :) sorry. the url: http://pastebin.ca/1799955
[13:50] <Galvatron> KMS made Compiz work again
[13:50] <Galvatron> But the performance is poor, as with KMS:(
[13:51] <Galvatron> So I'm still looking for a better solution
[13:55] <AltrortlA> Anybody can tell me how to reset conneting in my kubuntu??
[13:55] <shadeslayer> AltrortlA: conneting?
[13:56] <AltrortlA> sure it's a mistake... connection
[13:57] <AltrortlA> globe is still green ... i have done several tries to set connection in manaual or in dhpc but it do not run
[13:58] <Galvatron> Compiz froze on desktop cube and after reset I fot something like artifacts as background of widgets
[14:00] <AltrortlA> There is a way to reset all connection setting in kubuntu.... internet won't works
[14:00] <AltrortlA> ??
[14:01] <shadeslayer> AltrortlA: you can reset the whole of kde if thats what you want
[14:02] <AltrortlA> shadeslayer: Formatting you say?
[14:02] <shadeslayer> AltrortlA: nope
[14:03] <shadeslayer> AltrortlA: just logout and press ctrl+Alt+F1 and run : rm -rf .kde
[14:03] <AltrortlA> shadeslayer: after this i loose my application or data?
[14:04] <AltrortlA> shadeslayer: such as my folder... or worst LAMP installed?
[14:05] <shadeslayer> AltrortlA: just the application settings....
[14:06] <shadeslayer> AltrortlA: the apps themselves are not deleted
[14:11] <AltrortlA> shadeslayer: my problem is that knetworkmanager won't works no more. The gatway is on another computer in the LAN (wired)... from this PC a can see Kubuntu (but it appears like no HostName) .... knetwork is a green globe ... I have tried to cange setting of interfaces ... then restart the network... add in solv.conf mac addres of my card... nothing of this works
[14:12] <AltrortlA> shadeslayer: Ping my gw <IP_ADDRESS> i got destination host unreachable (kubuntu 9.04). This happens in a Lan in witch gatway is <IP_ADDRESS> (that is the PC that have connection to share), the Local connection is <IP_ADDRESS> and the kubuntu PC is <IP_ADDRESS>..... The strange thing is that on the gateway PC I have set a Software (wireshark - do you know??) that relieve ARP message ... and a...
[14:12] <AltrortlA> ...Second Software that relieve the presence of <IP_ADDRESS> ... but I can't surf.
[14:13] <AltrortlA> shadeslayer: Sorry for mistakes... english is not my language
[14:31] <BluesKaj> Heyas
[14:40] <smooki> hi
[14:40] <smooki> is this freenode ?
[14:40] <smooki> ok seems to be :)
[14:41] <BluesKaj> smooki, yes it's #kubuntu on the freenode server
[14:42] <smooki> kubuntu is really nice
[14:46] <BluesKaj> smooki, yes it is
[15:13] <Vge> is someone here using Geany with KDE and SFTP?
[15:20] <adidass> anyone know how I can dianose my wireless connectivity issues?  What I mean is that I cant even connect at all even though the AP is open and has a strong signal
[15:21] <adidass> If I boot into windows on the same machine, I can instantly connect to the same AP
[15:21] <shadeslayer> adidass: is it a WEP secured network?
[15:21] <adidass> No it's open
[15:21] <shadeslayer> adidass: hmm have you tried wicd?
[15:21] <adidass> and the network manager shows the AP's and their signals
[15:21] <adidass> it just wont connect
[15:21] <adidass> no I havent.
[15:22] <adidass> Is there a way to remove the native KDE wireless manager thing?  I hate it
[15:23] <Vroomfondle> adidass: you mean networkmanager?
[15:23] <adidass> yeah
[15:23] <adidass> it sux
[15:23] <adidass> I dont mind installing wicd but I want to get rid of network manager if I do
[15:23] <lalalol__> if u go to kpackagekit>softwaresources>updates>automatic updates, i have Check for updates ticked with Daily as choice, but under there i get 3 dots, which one should i choose?
[15:23] <shadeslayer> adidass: just install wicd...itll automatically remove nm
[15:23] <Vroomfondle> adidass: then just uninstall it.
[15:24] <adidass> thanks
[15:24] <BluesKaj> network manager will be disabled by wicd 's install, adidass
[15:25] <lalalol__> is wicd better than nm?
[15:25] <shadeslayer> lalalol__: yes
[15:26] <lalalol__> cool, im using wicd :)
[15:26] <lalalol__> can u answer my previous question too plz?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> lalalol__, why not just use the terminal to update your install ...sudo apt-get update , then sudo apt-get upgrade , package managers are flaky except for synaptic
[15:29] <lalalol__> i have synaptic
[15:32] <somekool> i got a weird bug.... I open a new dolphin window, set the view mode to column. click on a folder and nothing happens. double click switch to icon view when opening the folder
[15:32] <somekool> anyone have same issue?
[16:10] <satepc> Hey guys anyone know how to use DWM?
[16:12] <genii> satepc: They have a new channel, #dwm  (although only 3 people in it)
[16:13] <satepc> empty lol
[16:17] <genii> satepc: Their website has links to manpages, tutorials etc http://dwm.suckless.org/
[16:18] <genii> satepc: Their website has links to manpages, tutorials etc http://dwm.suckless.org/
[16:18] <satepc> I've looked, but its old
[16:18] <satepc> I followed the instructions, and I build the DWM, and I can even get on DWM, but I can't edit the config.h
[16:19] <genii> satepc: The main prob is that most people running *buntu versions are using KDE (like in this channel) or GNOME (regular Ubuntu) , XFCE (Xubuntu) or LXDE (Lubuntu)
[16:20] <satepc> Im running arch linux on virtual box
[16:20] <bazhang> satepc, with a ubuntu/kubuntu host?
[16:21] <satepc> lost me
[16:21] <bazhang> satepc, the guest is archlinux?
[16:21] <satepc> I have kubuntu on my laptop, and on virtual i have arch linux installed
[16:21] <bazhang> virtualbox has a guest and a host
[16:22] <satepc> umm
[16:22] <Pici> satepc: And where are you trying to run DWM? in arch or kubuntu?
[16:22] <satepc> arch
[16:22] <bazhang> satepc, so you are trying to use dwm with the host or the guest (kubuntu or arch)
[16:22] <Pici> satepc: Then you need to ask about it in #archlinux
[16:23] <satepc> I got DWM and other WM working on arch linux
[16:23] <satepc> I just want to make my DWM look better
[16:23] <satepc> And I tried asking for help, they are busy i guess.. (ignored me)
[16:24] <Pici> satepc: You aren't running DWM in Kubuntu, so we cannot help you. You need to speak to either the DWM folks or Archlinux support.
[16:25] <satepc> I'm talking in there, but I'm not getting a response
[16:29] <PsychoMari0> how can i remove the bouncing icon when i click on a program?
[16:30] <genii> satepc: You could always try main ##linux channel, odds are someone there knows something about it
[16:34] <BluesKaj> PsychoMari0, system settings/desktop/launchfeedback ,  busy cursor, choose  "no busy cursor"
[16:34] <satepc> Do I need to register my nick on archlinux channel?
[16:35] <shadeslayer> satepc: this is #kubuntu
[16:35] <satepc> No way!
[16:35] <genii> shadeslayer: They already had that hammered in earlier :)
[16:35] <shadeslayer> ow..
[16:36] <satepc> Its funny you install kubuntu, they give you this nice IRC, and expect users to know how to use it..
[16:36] <shadeslayer> satepc: sorry mate... i was playing World of Goo... didnt notice
[16:36] <genii> satepc: If your name is registered on Freenode generally then you should be able to go to whatever channels require it
[16:36] <genii> !register
[16:36] <shadeslayer> and also theres this annoying build failiure...
[16:37] <satepc> !register
[16:37] <satepc> * Channel ##linux-overflow created on Wed Nov 25 10:35:52 2009
[16:37] <satepc> [ChanServ] THIS IS THE ##LINUX OVERFLOW CHANNEL. You are probably in here because either YOUR NICK IS NOT REGISTERED, or YOU HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED TO NICKSERV, or a lot of people tried to join ##linux in the same second.  Please fix any of these issues and then try again!
[16:38] <FloodBotK1> satepc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:38] <genii> satepc: Follow the bots instructions on registering then
[16:38] <shadeslayer> satepc: i would suggest reconnecting to freenode
[16:38] <shadeslayer> (after registering yourself that is)
[16:39] <satepc> so confused
[16:39] <bazhang> satepc, /join #freenode
[16:39] <shadeslayer> satepc: Register > Disconnect > Connect > join #archlinux :P
[16:40] <shadeslayer> ok ive gtg
[16:40] <shadeslayer> bye all
[16:40] <bazhang> shadeslayer, there is a confirmation email
[16:59] <xper> is kmail's ssl imap causing problems for anyone else under 9.1 ?
[16:59] <xper> er karmic
[17:08] <xper> hrm
[17:19] <jarle> Where should I put my startup scripts, so that they will run when X is started no matter if I use gdm/kdm/kde/gnome whatever? It seems like ~/.xinitrc is not used by kdm?
[17:22] <genii> jarle: xsession
[17:25] <josh____> does enyone know how to install conquer online and mack it play plz
[17:26] <jarle> genii: I'l have a go with ~/.xsession then...
[17:27] <genii> !wine | josh____
[17:28] <josh____> ok
[17:40] <lordganesh> Is there a way to automatically unlock the kwallet on login?
[17:47] <lordganesh> Is there a way to automatically unlock the kwallet on login? Does anybody have answer?
[17:48] <zegenie> lordganesh: you can always remove the wallet password and set "always allow" on the applications that use it
[18:05] <RIzwan> hello
[18:06] <RIzwan> can any one help me?
[18:06] <genii> !anyone | RIzwan
[18:06] <RIzwan> i think all r bots?
[18:07] <genii> RIzwan: Best thing is to just state whatever problem you are having and then see if someone can help
[18:07] <RIzwan> i have install Ubunto 9.10 Desktop Edition with LAMP
[18:08] <RIzwan> now i want to know that how to configure Ubuntu for host a website?
[18:09] <RIzwan> hello mac
[18:09] <RIzwan> plz help me
[18:10] <Vroomfondle> !lamp | RIzwan
[18:12] <fatality_> bu kubuntuyu anlamadım
[18:14] <genii> !tr | fatality_
[18:28] <kubook> hi! how do you run plasma-notebook withou default desktop? I installed plasma-notebook (KDE 4.4 from backports), but when I run plasma-notebook from console, the desktop and notebook plasma are both visible
[18:28] <phani> Hi. I have hardy 8.04 and its stucked while booting and the process it shows as busy box and version is 1.1.3
[18:28] <phani> Is there a way to stop the process while booting up in recovery mode >
[18:31] <Supun> can i upgrade my 9.04 in to 9.10?
[18:42] <kubook> hi! how do you run plasma-netbook withou default desktop? I installed plasma-notebook (KDE 4.4 from backports), but when I run plasma-notebook from console, the desktop and notebook plasma are both visible
[18:44] <tsimpson> kubook: run "kquitapp plasma-desktop" to make plasma-desktop quit
[18:48] <Supun> raindog: no, i couldnt find a answr 4 the problem   in any forum
[18:49] <raindog> Supun: What graphics card are you using?
[18:49] <Supun> raindog: intel graphic media accellerator on board vga
[18:49] <[-Haza-]> Hey folks. What software do people here use to scna images from a scanner (all in one printer)
[18:51] <genii> [-Haza-]: I usually scan in from Gimp
[18:51] <[-Haza-]> genii: Okay. I'll check that out. I was hoping there was a more lightweight tool
[18:52] <[-Haza-]> ive installed sane and scanned an image via the command line
[18:52] <nowth> xscan?
[18:52] <[-Haza-]> no idea where it went though! :)
[18:52] <nowth> xsane
[18:52] <genii> [-Haza-]: There's always command-line scanimage
[18:52] <genii> [-Haza-]: It goes into the diretory you called the command in
[18:52] <raindog> Supun: Ask you question in here.  I'm sure someone will more knowledge can help you.  I'm looking to the issue as well and will let you know if I find anything that may be of help.  Good luck.
[18:52] <[-Haza-]> nowth: xsane eh? :)
[18:52] <[-Haza-]> genii: Ahh i see
[18:52] <[-Haza-]> Thanks guys. Great info here
[18:53] <Supun> anyone  have screen resolution problem in 9.10?
[18:54] <[-Haza-]> genii, nowth: you guys a amazing, cheers! :)
[18:54] <nowth> also scangui, but I don't know what package that's in
[18:55] <[-Haza-]> Cool. if this works just now im not going to complain
[18:55] <Supun> raindog: no one care my question?
[18:57] <raindog> Supun: You may need to provide more specifics and it may take some time for a reply.  For example, I am using an intel card and I can't get my monitor to show at the highest resolution.  Can anyone help me with this?  Be patient you'll get the help you need.
[18:58] <babalu> how can i set pulseaudio for my audio capture device? hda intel doesn't seem to work
[18:58] <Supun> I am using an intel card and I can't get my monitor to show at the highest resolution.  Can anyone help me with this?  Be patient you'll get the help you need.
[18:59] <Supun> raindog: thank you
[19:00] <raindog> Supun: I'm continuing to look into it as well.  For instance, it may be that your monitor is not being detected correctly.  It also may be a configuration issue with your graphics card or driver.
[19:04] <nowth> When I installed the OS I was given an option to encrypt my home dir. I didn't do that because I wasn't sure what it entailed. How can I convert to an encrypted home directory?
[19:09] <BluesKaj> !encrypt
[19:10] <BluesKaj> !encryption
[19:10] <BluesKaj> !info encryption
[19:10] <lalalol__> how do i run a script?
[19:11] <nowth> I have an encrypted "Private" dir, but I'd rather just indiscriminately encrypt the whole home dir
[19:11] <BluesKaj> !script
[19:11] <tsimpson> !truecrypt
[19:11] <BluesKaj> wow the bot is useless today
[19:11] <tsimpson> lalalol__: depends what type of script
[19:11] <BluesKaj> !bash
[19:11] <lalalol__> tsimpson, winetricks
[19:12] <BluesKaj> :)
[19:12] <tsimpson> try just "sh ./name_of_script"
[19:12] <lalalol__> in the konsole?
[19:12] <lalalol__> or in the run command?
[19:13] <nowth> is truecrypt what's used when you choose to encrypt your home on installation?
[19:13] <tsimpson> in konsole
[19:13] <lalalol__> ok
[19:13] <tsimpson> nowth: no, but you'll need to reformat /home if you want to do it the same way as the installer
[19:13] <nowth> that wouldn't be a problem
[19:16] <_SatManUK_> hi i have a laptop that is brand new and not fully linux comapitlbe, kubuntu is the first distro to boot without acpi=off however i need to install b43 firmware
[19:16] <_SatManUK_> how would i do this?
[19:16] <tsimpson> !broadcom
[19:16] <_SatManUK_> thanks tsimpson
[19:16] <tsimpson> nowth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto has some info
[19:16] <_SatManUK_> i dunno your bot commands..
[19:16] <nowth> tsimpson, thanks
[19:17] <nowth> will look into it
[19:17] <Supun> emonkey:
[19:22] <_SatManUK_> tsimpson: this is my card:
[19:22] <_SatManUK_> 14e4:4312
[19:22] <_SatManUK_>
[19:22] <_SatManUK_> supported (802.11g only)
[19:22] <_SatManUK_>
[19:22] <FloodBotK1> _SatManUK_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:22] <_SatManUK_> BCM4312
[19:23] <_SatManUK_> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Known_PCI_devices
[19:23] <pulaski> Hi, how can I change the default browser in karmic koala to firefox instead of konqueror?
[19:24] <_SatManUK_> please refer to the bcm4312
[19:24] <EagleScreen> pulaski: System Preferences -> Default aplications: Web browser
[19:24] <lalalol__> some websites really hurt my eyes, but were smooth back when i used windows, how come?
[19:25] <pulaski> EagleScreen: Thanks for responding, I'll try it!
[19:25] <EagleScreen> _SatManUK_: if you haven't acpi issues in Kubuntu, install package bcmwl-kernel-source
[19:25] <_SatManUK_> ok using ethernet i guess
[19:26] <_SatManUK_> that would be apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source right?
[19:26] <_SatManUK_> its been years since i was on this side of the fence..
[19:28] <_SatManUK_> EagleScreen: done
[19:28] <EagleScreen> yes _SatManUK_and start to use aptitude in place of apt-get -> sudo aptitude install bcmwl-kernel-source
[19:28] <EagleScreen> _SatManUK_: if you dont want to play with modprobe, reboot
[19:28] <_SatManUK_> livecd..
[19:29] <_SatManUK_> sudo modprobe what
[19:29] <lalalol__> who can explain my problem and potentially solve it?
[19:29] <_SatManUK_> EagleScreen: what do i need to modprobe
[19:30] <EagleScreen> _SatManUK_: modprobe -r b43; mosprobe -r ssb; modprobe wl
[19:30] <EagleScreen> * modprobe -r ssb
[19:30] <EagleScreen> not mosprobe lol
[19:31] <_SatManUK_> ok done
[19:31] <EagleScreen> lalalol__: running Konqueror to browse the web?
[19:31] <_SatManUK_> still no wireless in knm
[19:31] <EagleScreen> _SatManUK_: chek dmesg
[19:32] <lalalol__> EagleScreen, no, chromium, but it dont matter i think, even firefox hurts
[19:32] <EagleScreen> what do you mean with "they hurts"?
[19:32] <_SatManUK_> pci int a disabled
[19:32] <lalalol__> they hurt my eyes
[19:33] <lalalol__> its like the sites use a font that linux dont recognize
[19:33] <_SatManUK_> activation of proprietary driver
[19:33] <EagleScreen> lalalol__: stranger characters?
[19:33] <_SatManUK_> nice
[19:33] <Vroomfondle> sounds like subpixel smoothing isn't turned on?
[19:33] <lalalol__> EagleScreen, no, not strange chars, just not sharp, not antialiased or w/e
[19:34] <EagleScreen> what happened _SatManUK_?
[19:34] <_SatManUK_> fcutter
[19:34] <Torch> lalalol__: example?
[19:34] <lalalol__> bbs
[19:34] <_SatManUK_> it wants to d/l ati radeon driver b43 driver and sta driver
[19:35] <EagleScreen> _SatManUK_: fwcutter is only to install firmware for b43 module, which is incompatible with your model in 2.6.31 or older
[19:35] <EagleScreen> _SatManUK_: the sta driver is the one you already installed woth bcmwl-kernel-source
[19:36] <EagleScreen> _SatManUK_: check and pastebin: "lsmod" and "dmesg"
[19:37] <_SatManUK_> i installed three things with fwcutter
[19:38] <_SatManUK_> ati radeon, b43 and sta
[19:38] <_SatManUK_> need to restart to activate
[19:39] <_SatManUK_> installing now.. then will restart
[19:39] <kdenoobie> hiya
[19:39] <kdenoobie> anybody know how to configure my sound in Kubuntu? It worked in gnome on this hardware but I can't get it now
[19:40] <_SatManUK_> i am gonna install it on /dev/sda5 where opensuse was
[19:41] <_SatManUK_> sorry sda6
[19:41] <_SatManUK_> sda5 swap sda6 / sda7 /home
[19:44] <pulaski> EagleScreen: I've made the change, thanks, but it's still using konqueror,  I have a link embedded in an OOo .odt doc that opens in konqueror instead of Namoroka (aka firefox 3.6). Should I restart X? Reboot? That seems unessecary.  Do you have any other tips?
[19:45] <EagleScreen> OOo ins't a KDE application, so it might follow another rule
[19:46] <EagleScreen> pulaski: install woth this: sudo aptitude -R install galternatives
[19:46] <_SatManUK_> i cant delete the old partitions
[19:47] <pulaski> EagleScreen: Thanks, I'll try it>
[19:47] <EagleScreen> later run galternatives, go to www-browser and select firefox
[19:49] <_SatManUK_> had to delete suse's /home partition as well as /
[19:49] <_SatManUK_> but nout on it anyway just few iso
[19:49] <_SatManUK_> 20gb / should be ample right
[19:51] <Vroomfondle> _SatManUK_: for / ? Yes
[19:55] <_SatManUK_> i have to delete all suse's partitions it just wont accept them including swap
[19:56] <_SatManUK_> i presume it supports extended partitions
[19:58] <lalalol__> back
[19:58] <lalalol__> so, what to do with my textproblem?
[19:59] <_SatManUK_> Vroomfondle: does it support /home and swap on extended?
[20:00] <_SatManUK_> EagleScreen: can i just copy my .kde4 folder from opensuse to kubuntu
[20:00] <Vroomfondle> _SatManUK_: should do, yeah
[20:01] <_SatManUK_> i wanna import all my e-mails contacts kopete settings etc
[20:02] <lalalol__> anyone plz?
[20:03] <_SatManUK_> lalalol__: what is your problem?
[20:03] <_SatManUK_> i am new to kubuntu but not kde / linux
[20:03] <_SatManUK_> but i will try to help
[20:03] <lalalol__> _SatManUK_, on certain sites the text hurts my eyes, it didnt on windows
[20:04] <_SatManUK_> screen refresh rate changed?
[20:04] <_SatManUK_> font sizes
[20:04] <_SatManUK_> what browser?
[20:04] <lalalol__> yeah i have, its just not sharp, not antialiased
[20:04] <_SatManUK_> you can ctrl + to zoom in if it helps
[20:04] <lalalol__> dont matter, chromium, firefox, konqueror
[20:04] <lalalol__> then its too big
[20:05] <_SatManUK_> so its a graphics driver issue?
[20:05] <_SatManUK_> maybe refresh rate like i said is different perhaps
[20:05] <nowth> have you even turned on anti-aliasing
[20:05] <lalalol__> yeah
[20:07] <_SatManUK_> i have this issue with other distro's why do you install localisations for openoffice that aren't my own
[20:07] <_SatManUK_> for example south african
[20:08] <_SatManUK_> just a waste of hd space i think for multiple languages and localisations i will never use..
[20:08] <Vroomfondle> lalalol__: it does sound like subpixel hinting isn't turned on. Might be worth googling for that, your graphics card name and "xorg" or something
[20:09] <pulaski> EagleScreen:Thanks for your help.  Its working just like I want it to now.  Very cool.
[20:10] <xav3s> Hi. I would like to install software center (used in Ubuntu). Anyone knows how to do it?
[20:10] <lalalol__> Vroomfondle, or in system settings>appearance>fonts>anti-aliasing> and then tick the option for subpixel?
[20:11] <e_t_> xav3s: sudo apt-get install software-center
[20:11] <xav3s> thanks e_t_
[20:13] <Vroomfondle> lalalol__: well, yeah in theory that should work
[20:16] <mauri_> im looking for a tool with gui for monipulate pdf file.....im using now pdfedit but it has some problems
[20:16] <_SatManUK_> EagleScreen: i don't believe this
[20:16] <_SatManUK_> now kubuntu won't boot from running config on the hd
[20:17] <_SatManUK_> same frozen system again..
[20:17] <_SatManUK_> its done it this time..
[20:17] <_SatManUK_> weird
[20:19] <_SatManUK_> x won't load but i have console
[20:19] <_SatManUK_> how to configure x if not with sax2
[20:24] <ISsup> Question..  i was editing a cfg file in VI.. when i closed it.   Now i can not edit this file because it is read only.  how can i reset the files attributes?
[20:25] <_SatManUK_> maybe it has a .lock
[20:25] <_SatManUK_> look for a file with the same name but .lock or .lck
[20:25] <ISsup> i don't see one, unless maybe its hidden
[20:26] <_SatManUK_> maybe
[20:29] <_SatManUK_> i can't boot into x I am getting no such file or directory and other errors like no screens found
[20:29] <_SatManUK_> failed to load module fglrx
[20:29] <_SatManUK_> any suggestions?
[20:36] <RiotingPacifist> I'm a bit of a HW noob, how can i tell if the slot in my laptop is pci or pci-express, can i do lspci --isthisexpress or something like that?
[20:38] <_SatManUK_> i think the shame is different
[20:39] <Vroomfondle> RiotingPacifist: lshw might tell you, but to be honest I'd recommend just reading the manual ;)
[20:39] <_SatManUK_> Vroomfondle: i installed onto my laptop but now x won't load..
[20:40] <Vroomfondle> you tried to enable fglrx?
[20:45] <_SatManUK_> how to do that?
[20:46] <Vroomfondle> _SatManUK_: it seems like it's looking for fglrx (ATI binary driver). Do you have an ATI card?
[20:46] <Vroomfondle> graphics card I mean
[20:46] <_SatManUK_> yesw
[20:46] <_SatManUK_> yes
[20:46] <_SatManUK_> radeon hd
[20:47] <sgh_> Riddell: Have you seen this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/521890
[20:48] <sgh_> Riddell: I wold say that it is kind of a showstopper for lucid, since performance is degraded quite bad.
[20:48] <Vroomfondle> _SatManUK_: FGLRX is a driver which shouldn't be enabled by default (you usually have to install it if you want it). You have two options: edit the X config file to stop fglrx from loading, or download the driver from the ATI website and install it.
[20:49] <_SatManUK_> i tried to install it on the live cd
[20:49] <_SatManUK_> would that transfer during install
[20:56] <_SatManUK_> Vroomfondle: i will install without all the prop drivers and see if it installs and boots ok
[20:57] <xav3s> Hi. I just updated the system but now, when I select the new kernel on grub (<IP_ADDRESS>) it shows the following error : kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block. Any help please?
[20:57] <Riddell> sgh_: that's fixed in KDE branch, we'll get it with KDE SC 4.4.1
[20:58] <sgh_> Riddell: can't we patch the sources before compiling ?
[21:05] <zyxon> hello. is there a way in quassel irc to get a list of channels availible on the server? Pretty much like in Xchat.
[21:06] <Satori><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:20] <Oxymoron> If I want to reset my apt-get sources and settings, which folder should I delete? I want to ask because last time I destroyed adept :D
[21:28] <sgh_> Riddell: I have made the changes locally. I will send you a patch if it fixes the issue.
[21:32] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: you don't delete a folder, you edit the source.list
[21:32] <Mamarok> if you delete it, of course Adept can't find any sources
[21:33] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Yeah I know, but somehow it tries to fetch the translation sources and its quite annoying. How do I remove those? They does not exist in the source.list?
[21:33] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: well, that doesn't hurt, just ignore those
[21:34] <_SatManUK_> how to manually install a .deb file ?
[21:34] <_SatManUK_> !deb
[21:34] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: I cant ignore them, its really annoying :D I want those removes from my temrinal window :D
[21:34] <_SatManUK_> oh ok
[21:34] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: well, edit your sources.list and change the mirror you use
[21:36] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: I use official mirror, main server and sources.list. Before I tried Swedish server and then I returned to the other server but the swedish mirrors isnt removed ... I want them removed permanently :P
[21:36] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: I only have the base sources in sources.list, no translation ones.
[21:37] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: as I said, you need to edit the sources.list
[21:37] <Mamarok> there is no other place where apt-get looks for sources
[21:37] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Which line in my sources.list then? :S
[21:37] <Mamarok> and there is no such thing as a translation mirror
[21:38] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Wait a minute ill show ya in pastebin what I mean :P
[21:38] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: how should I know, I don't know your sources.list :)
[21:38] <turo> Is there anybody form poland?
[21:39] <turo> from*
[21:39] <Mamarok> !pl | turo
[21:39] <turo> ok thx guys
[21:40] <Mamarok> turo: you are welcome :)
[21:40] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: When I do sudo apt-get update: I got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/378640/ I want those freaking "Translation-sv_SE"-lines gone NOW :D Its really buggers me a lot, I cannot ignore it and they are not in my sources.list ....
[21:40] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: and what are you waiting for to pastebin your sources.list? It's in /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:41] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Sigh, well I had to show you my output in terminal first. No I will show you the sources.list in a sec
[21:42] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: no, not really, I know what you were talking about
[21:42] <Oxymoron> http://paste.ubuntu.com/378643/
[21:43] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: |^
[21:44] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: that looks OK, did you update your translation files already? Systemsettings -> Region&Language
[21:44] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Huh what about translation files? :S
[21:44] <Mamarok> whihc also shows up as a yellow lightbulb in the SysTray BTW
[21:44] <Mamarok> which*
[21:45] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Dont understand what translation files youre talking about :S
[21:46] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: you apparently have a second langauge other than English isntalled on your system, did you update this? See my mention of Systemsettings above...
[21:47] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Wtf, I WANT swedish on my desktop but I dont want Adept to fetch translation mirrors for sweidsh ones? :S
[21:47] <xav3s> I would like to remove a kernel in order to reinstall it. How do I remove it?
[21:47] <Mamarok> !language | Oxymoron
[21:48] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Sorry, I thought the 1337 doesnt count as bad language :P
[21:48] <Mamarok> xav3s: it certainly does, speak English and stay polite
[21:48] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: now could you please do what I asked you for? You need to update your language packages
[21:49] <xav3s> Mamarok, I didnt say anything wrong
[21:49] <Mamarok> xav3s: I am not talking to you
[21:49] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Yes, but how do I do that? :P
[21:50] <xav3s> Anyone knows how to remove a kernel?
[21:50] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: read again what I said above *sigh*: Systemsettings -> Region&Language, check that everything is up-zto-date and that your swystem language is set correctly
[21:50] <Mamarok> xav3s: sorry, wrong nick, that was not ment for you :(
[21:50] <xav3s> it's ok
[21:50] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: yes I am not dumb ... where in Systemsettings -> Region&Language do you mean I should "update" my language files? Everything seems alright to me?
[21:51] <Mamarok> xav3s: you need to make sure you are not running the kernel you want to remove. Why do you want to remove it to reinstall it after? That doesn't seem necessary
[21:51] <xav3s> because it shows a kernel panic, I would like to compile it in my system
[21:52] <turtle^s0up> anyone know if we'll see Firefox 3.6 in the offical repos anytime soon?
[21:52] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: I have english and swedish installed on my system, swedish is choosed correctly? Still got those annoying things in apt-get update? :P
[21:52] <Mamarok> xav3s: not sure this is a good idea..
[21:52] <Mamarok> xav3s: don't you use the kernels provided by the repositories?
[21:52] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: and which is your System Language?
[21:53] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Swedish or should my system language be in english? :S
[21:53] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: that is up to you to choose, but make sure all your system has the same langauge then
[21:53] <Mamarok> language*
[21:53] <xav3s> Mamarok, The latest kernel (<IP_ADDRESS>) gives a error message (kernel panic) and the latest from kernel.org (2.6.32) gives the same error
[21:54] <Mamarok> xav3s: and you are on Kubuntu 9.10?
[21:54] <xav3s> yes. KDE 4.4 installed
[21:55] <Mamarok> xav3s: and what did you change in your system that causes the kernel panic?
[21:55] <Mamarok> xav3s: that usually only happens when one does some basic hardware changes
[21:55] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Still does not work?
[21:55] <xav3s> Mamarok, I updated from KDE 4.3.5 to 4.4
[21:56] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: And I dont understand what system language has to do with that apt-get thing?
[21:56] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: then I don't know, sorry. You shouldn't make a fuss about 5 lines that you see only every now and then in the command line
[21:56] <xav3s> I installed ubuntu using wubi, the windows installer
[21:56] <xav3s> kubuntu, i mean
[21:56] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: that was my best guess, since I don't have those lines
[21:56] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Those lines werent there before? :S
[21:56] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: They came there when I changed mirror to swedish server and then restored to main server? :S
[21:57] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: I cannot reverse? :S
[21:57] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: as I said, I don't know, they don't hurt and it doesn't matter, really. This is not a bug nor something that prevents you from suing everything correctly on your system
[21:57] <Mamarok> using*
[21:57] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Yeah its kind a bug because those lines shouldnt be there? And it affect my eyes ... lol :D
[21:58] <Mamarok> xav3s: that is most uncommon, first time I hear that somebody has a kernel panic, you should verify that nothing is wrong with your hardware
[21:58] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: *sigh*
[21:59] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Its annoying that it ignores those lines and says good on the other ones. Its really silly I know but IT really annoys me a lot because I use apt-get update often.
[22:00] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: certainly not more than once a day, everything else would be overkill, making a fuss about a few lines is really...beyond my understanding, sorry
[22:01] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Why so, in the backports there is updates several times a day? For the moment I havent backports but soon again :P
[22:01] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: no, that is simply not true
[22:02] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Its double so many lines in the temrinal window, I think that is a thing fuss about :D No, but really it should be able to remove it someway? When I change mirror server, EXACTLY where does those settings store in adept?
[22:02] <turtle^s0up> anyone know why the "Inconsolata" font texts get cut off in terminal display?
[22:03] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: just stop highlighting me, pleae, I alreay told you I don't know
[22:03] <Mamarok> please*
[22:03] <Oxymoron> ALright, sorry :/
[22:04] <Oxymoron> ANyone else? :D
[22:04] <SatManUK> !mp3
[22:04] <lalalol__> how can i disable quassel from saving chats when i disconnect? i dont want it to remember all the stuff
[22:06] <Mamarok> SatManUK: you can also query the bot, no need to ask in the channel
[22:06] <SatManUK> ok
[22:07] <SatManUK> done now anyway
[22:12] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: I found this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/weird-apt-get-update-output-diffindex-ign-549310/
[22:13] <Mamarok> it is a normal message you can't remove, so live with it
[22:15] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Awesome xD Thanks for the answer though :) I think you enjoyed my little annoying thing anyway so you googled it :D I googled too but on wrong keywords I suppose :D
[22:16] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: no, I didn't enjoy it, really, especially not after a days work :(
[22:16] <Oxymoron> Mamarok: Just kidding :D But you sure did try find some answers though, why not ignore it? :P
[22:17] <Mamarok> Oxymoron: well, could you please keep your kidding outside a support channel? It's rather annoying
[22:19] <SatManUK> is .kde4 same on all distros?
[22:19] <SatManUK> i want to import mail/contacts and settings for kde pim
[22:20] <SatManUK> from opensuse is this possible just by copying the folder?
[22:20] <Mamarok> SatManUK: you should ask that in #opensuse, last time I used it it was version 6.3, sorry
[22:20] <Mamarok> but Kontact should work the same in all distributions normally
[22:21] <SatManUK> man its changed somewhat since 6.3
[22:21] <Mamarok> but if you want to copy over from one distribution to another you should be aware that the permissions are not the same
[22:22] <SatManUK> what changes would be likely?
[22:22] <Mamarok> well, the user is not the same numbering, Debian/Kubuntu starts the user numbering at 1000, other distros not necessarily, so exporting and importing is certinaly the safer way to go
[22:23] <SatManUK> suse starts at 1000
[22:23] <Mamarok> good, other distros don't, like Mandirva and Fedora for example
[22:24] <Mamarok> Mandriva*
[22:24] <Mamarok> they start at 500 IIRC
[22:24] <SatManUK> fedora also i think
[22:24] <SatManUK> ah you said that lol
[22:25] <Mamarok> SatManUK: both are originaly based on RedHat, that starts at 500
[22:26] <Mamarok> SatManUK: also, in Kubuntu the folder structure in Kubuntu is $HOME/.kde/, I think OpenSuSE uses .kde4/
[22:26] <SatManUK> so i can copy .kde4 to .kde which would help
[22:27] <Mamarok> SatManUK: yes, but you should check with OpenSuSE nonetheless, just to make sure there are not other changes
[22:30] <EagleScreen> hello _SatManUK_how do you go?
[22:30] <EagleScreen> I have re-used .kde/.kde4 for Suse and Kubuntu some times and no problems
[22:31] <SatManUK> up n running with kubuntu EagleScreen
[22:31] <EagleScreen> do you already have wireless connection?
[22:31] <SatManUK> just had to re install without ATi n wifi
[22:31] <SatManUK> then install prop's after install
[22:32] <kayve> I need help with LADDAP installation for MatLab
[22:32] <octocpp> i did  ifconfig wlan0 <IP_ADDRESS>, and it came up wth the correct IP and Mask,   but i cant seem to ba able to ping my router, it seems I am not really connected ? how do i get connected with ifconfig?
[22:32] <EagleScreen> kayve: what do you exactly want?
[22:32] <kayve> I need to install LADDAP
[22:32] <kayve> http://opendap.org/download/libdap++.html
[22:33] <Galvatron> Hi
[22:33] <SatManUK> EagleScreen: wifi up
[22:33] <SatManUK> so now to figure where the differences
[22:33] <Galvatron> Is there any way to install KDE 4.3 on Kubuntu 9.04 except from migrating to 9.10, which is too unstable in my case?
[22:33] <EagleScreen> _SatManUK_: are you using broadcom-sta (wl) really?
[22:34] <kayve> I tried alien.  I did a tarball but make install didn't work
[22:34] <kayve> It was some sort of dependency on that page
[22:34] <EagleScreen> kayve: have you check if there is any task in tasksel for it?
[22:34] <EagleScreen> has tasksel task for LADDAP?
[22:35] <kayve> It had INSTALL directions standard ./configure; make install but the make didn't work there wasn't a Makefile it was Makefile.au and Makefile.im or something
[22:35] <kayve> what's a tasksel?
[22:35] <EagleScreen> tasksel is a tool to install some things which require installation of several packages in a friendy way
[22:36] <EagleScreen> but i cannot remember if that thing was in tasksel
[22:36] <kayve> It doesnt have Ubuntu instructions
[22:36] <EagleScreen> kayve: run: sudo tasksel and check for it
[22:37] <kayve> there is not many things there.
[22:38] <EagleScreen> kayve: what is your Kubuntu version?
[22:38] <kayve> 8.10?
[22:38] <kayve> is that the latest or 9.10?
[22:38] <kayve>  2.6.31-19-generic #56-Ubuntu SMP
[22:39] <EagleScreen> the latest is 9.10, the one you have by your kernel
[22:39] <kayve> I'm pretty sure I have the lastest. Installed a few weeks ago?  umm.. in January?
[22:40] <EagleScreen> okay kayve, then your list of taks in tasksel should be large, but it haven't to contain LADDAP
[22:41] <kayve> there are 43 things in tasksel is that large?  I don't think so
[22:41] <EagleScreen> yes it is
[22:42] <kayve> not by my standards
[22:42] <EagleScreen> a few time ago tasksel used to have four or five tasks
[22:42] <kayve> Note: for the Ubuntu binary build offered here you will need to run the following commands in usr/lib: sudo ln -s libssl.so.0.9.8 libssl.so.6 and sudo ln -s libcrypto.so.0.9.8 libcrypto.so.6
[22:42] <kayve> http://opendap.org/download/ml-structs.html
[22:45] <SatManUK> night
[22:49] <e_t_> What is FloodBot?
[22:49] <nonameNN> just a bot that wont let u flood
[22:50] <nonameNN> hey, does any one here has an ssd drive??
[22:51] <rbrunhuber> nonameNN:  I have one
[22:51] <nonameNN> rbrunhuber: how faster are they comparing with regular sata2 discs?
[22:52] <nonameNN> rbrunhuber: i mean, is it worth it?
[22:53] <rbrunhuber> nonameNN: I've never made any benchmarks and I can't compare the current kubuntu on ssd to the experience on hdd.
[22:53] <nonameNN> rbrunhuber: k thanks... im just tryin to figure out if its worth to pay 500 dollars for one...
[22:53] <rbrunhuber> nonameNN: What I see is that lucid starts extremely fast. I'd say under 5 seconds from grub till kdm dialog
[22:54] <nonameNN> rbrunhuber: thats 4 times faster than mine, an when u open apps, are they faster?
[22:55] <rbrunhuber> nonameNN: I'd not pay this again. I've paid around 650 EUR for it.
[22:56] <nonameNN> rbrunhuber: when they first came out? im from argentina and they are like u$s 500 here
[22:57] <rbrunhuber> This floodbot drives me crazy. Does this floodbot prevent users from flooding the channel by flooding it itself?
[22:58] <james_l> Apparently
[22:58] <SatManUK> Vroomfondle: ty for your help 2 day 4 distros and this is the only 1 my laptop would take
[22:58] <nonameNN> hehe
[22:58] <SatManUK> all rpm based distros have bios errors
[22:58] <rbrunhuber> SatManUK: This is a really big claim.
[22:59] <james_l> And unlikely to be true.
[22:59] <SatManUK> well this is really a perculiar laptop
[23:00] <nonameNN> !stop | FloodBotK3
[23:00] <nonameNN> haha
[23:00] <nonameNN> funny
[23:01] <SatManUK> aqll distros i normally used failed in the last 4 days so i tried kubuntu it worked first time
[23:01] <SatManUK> someone kill that bot
[23:02] <Torch> wtf?
[23:02] <SatManUK> or fix it]
[23:02] <SatManUK> night
[23:02] <nonameNN> did anyone tried ubuntu on eeepc 1201n?
[23:02] <james_l> I'm pretty sure one of my laptops is peculiar, and in fact is the only one with the particular bios/hardware. :P
[23:03] <SatManUK> james_l: hp pavilion dv7-2230sa
[23:04] <SatManUK> 0000x001f causing conflict acpi region of smb - opensuse
[23:04] <SatManUK> fedora kernel panic suspected broken bios
[23:04] <SatManUK> kubuntu worked out of the box
[23:04] <amdgoon_> [B[A[A
[23:04] <james_l> That's good
[23:05] <rbrunhuber> But that does not support your claim that all rpm based distros have bios erros
[23:05] <james_l> Though if you can, you might want to track down why it failed and post a bugreport on the appropriate bugtracker.
[23:05] <SatManUK> i will test others and build a list
[23:05] <SatManUK> most rpm are based on fedora or suse
[23:06] <james_l> And frankly, it's probably better when making that claim to add 'on my laptop', because I've had a number of machines where they were the only things that worked.
[23:06] <SatManUK> but not tonight night
[23:06] <SatManUK> thats what i meant
[23:06] <SatManUK> specific
[23:06] <rbrunhuber> On this we can agree.
[23:07] <SatManUK> suse runs well in all my desktops and last laptop
[23:07] <cbwcjw> SatManUK: I usually don't encounter problems with *buntu, but this is because the devs work really hard to make sure everything DOES work out of the box
[23:07] <SatManUK> good
[23:07] <cbwcjw> Really, it ends up being that *buntu works the most times out of the box.
[23:07] <SatManUK> normally suse did as well
[23:07] <cbwcjw> Because of the ubuntu philosophy that it should "Just work"
[23:07] <SatManUK> but not this time
[23:07] <cbwcjw> Yeah, 11.2 was a wierd release.
[23:08] <SatManUK> but the program that downloads drivers is superb
[23:08] <SatManUK> wish suse would adopt it
[23:08] <james_l> Heh, there's also the gentoo philosophy (which was needed a few years ago on a lot of hardware, (k)ubuntu wouldn't support everything) of 'If it doesn't work, you can make it work.'
[23:09] <SatManUK> there are + / in every release
[23:09] <SatManUK> + -
[23:09] <rbrunhuber> night all.
[23:09] <SatManUK> ok im gone
[23:12] <Pavel> silverlight is causing firefox to crash for me, any ideas?
[23:13] <Pavel> ( I assume I'm not the first to have trouble watching the olympics)
[23:15] <cbwcjw> Pavel: theres a thread going ranting about that
[23:15] <Pavel> where?
[23:16] <cbwcjw> Ill find
[23:16] <cbwcjw> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8820045#post8820045
[23:16] <cbwcjw> love me, I saw it and it was in chrome's history xD
[23:19] <Torch> this is really... ironic.
[23:19] <Torch> and pathetic.
[23:19] <Torch> "flood bots" flooding the channel. great. just great.
[23:27] <Daughain> Ok then....
[23:28] <nonameNN> fucking boot
[23:28] <nonameNN> bot
[23:28] <nonameNN> he doesnt even say anything to me!
[23:34] <Riddell> sorry about the bot folks
[23:34] <Pavel> so if a page tells me to input this from a startup script, does  it mean the command line? '$ MOONLIGHT_OVERRIDES=effects=no firefox
[23:34] <Pavel> '
[23:43] <Riddell> Pavel: yes
[23:44] <Pavel> when I open it with alt+f2 though, it won't run that
[23:51] <Pavel> riddell, is alt+f2 a command line or just krunner?
[23:52] <Riddell> Pavel: it's a command line, not sure it's a full shell though, it might not work with the environment variable there
[23:52] <Riddell> use konsole for a full shell
[23:52] <Pavel> konsol tells me 'command not found: $'
[23:53] <Zorael> When I connect a second monitor, my mouse sensitivity skyrockets. I guess it's defined as relative to my screen size, and the new monitor makes that much larger. Can I set the sensitivity to be an absolute value somehow?
[23:54] <Torch> Pavel: don't enter the $
[23:55] <Zorael> Make that touchpad sensitivity.
[23:57] <Pavel> thanks, that worked, now if nbc.com would stop shutting down firefox when I try to watch the olympics that'd be dandy


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[01:20] <bkerensa> Loving the new Firefox Health Dashboard :)
[04:04] <smartboyhw> pleia2: Happy wedding? ;)
[04:19] <pleia2> thanks :)
[04:20] <pleia2> and it was!
[04:26] <smartboyhw> pleia2: :)
[07:31] <elfy> morning
[13:12] <jcastro> pleia2: congrats!
[13:12] <jcastro> when was the actual day?
[13:30] <IdleOne> April 28 iirc
[14:49] <chilicuil> good morning, does anyone has invitations to google maps?
[14:54] <smartboyhw> chilicuil: What?
[14:55] <chilicuil> smartboyhw: google released its new google maps interface to a limited audience, I was wondering if someone here has already looked at it
[14:59] <smartboyhw> chilicuil: Not me.
[15:00] <PabloRubianes> jono: have a minute?
[15:00] <jono> PabloRubianes, on a call, can you prv msg me?
[15:00] <PabloRubianes> jono: yes
[15:08] <IdleOne> chilicuil: what is supposed to be new about google maps?
[15:10] <chilicuil> the interface? =P, I don't know if it has more features, that's why I wanted to look at it, there is some buzz around it, IdleOne
[15:10] <IdleOne> hmm, I don't see anything different
[15:34] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: hey, got time for a chat?
[15:38] <jcastro> in a call and I'm leaving early today
[15:38] <jcastro> but keep typing, I'll keep an eye out
[15:38] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: let me know when you've got a bit of time
[15:55] <jcastro> JoseeAntonioR: I have 5 minutes, let's go!
[15:55] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: ok, so about the Q&A systems
[15:56] <JoseeAntonioR> in Shapado people can actually edit questions once they get some reputation
[15:56] <jcastro> can people submit edits and have them be reviewed?
[15:56] <jcastro> that is my main concern
[15:56] <JoseeAntonioR> not sure about that
[15:56] <pleia2> jcastro: apr 28th
[15:56] <jcastro> the other one would be, how into shutting down lp answers would the lp team be into?
[15:56] <JoseeAntonioR> haven't got time to test that
[15:57] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: not sure, but let's say LP answers doesn't get much questions
[15:57] <JoseeAntonioR> may not be useful to the ubuntu project, but to others
[15:58] <jcastro> true dat
[15:59] <JoseeAntonioR> I'm checking on the edit thing right now
[15:59] <JoseeAntonioR> is there any other concern about it?
[15:59] <jcastro> those are my concerns, I don't know about other people's concerns
[16:00] <JoseeAntonioR> I raised the session to solve those concerns, that was basically 'who would modify the system to make it ubuntu-ish and integrate sso' and 'will it replace askubuntu'
[16:01] <jcastro> I don't see why it would
[16:01] <jcastro> other than the language issue AU is working fine
[16:01] <JoseeAntonioR> yep, it surely won't
[16:01] <JoseeAntonioR> it's a solution until we can get localization in stackexchange, which looks (as in interface) better
[16:02] <jcastro> http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/41168/stack-overflow-in-russian
[16:02] <jcastro> some people are doing language-specific submissions
[16:02] <jcastro> however that will depend on the language being popular enough to get commitments
[16:02] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah, but that would mean having LOTS of sites, one for each language, while shapado would be one site with all languages, classified by tags
[16:02] <jcastro> http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/9340/translated-stack-overflow
[16:04] <JoseeAntonioR> 'If local versions of Stack Overflow are to thrive, they must have all-original content. They cannot survive as merely translations of English Stack Overflow.'
[16:05] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: just confirmed, and the 'submit edit' feature works in shapado
[16:05] <jcastro> ok, that was my only real beef
[16:06] <jcastro> do you have any commitments from people who would run/contribute to the site?
[16:06] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: now, I don't know who can give me the auth with IS to deploy the staging system to start with the project, if it's going to be done (cc jono)
[16:06] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: there are spanish speakers as moderators in askubuntu, and I myself would help too
[16:07] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, please don't kick off anything with IS until we have discussed it
[16:07] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: I won't, then
[16:07] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, thanks, I need to get a firmer idea of the project
[16:07] <jcastro> yeah I'd like to see more input from like translations teams, etc
[16:07] <jcastro> like, I like the idea
[16:07] <jcastro> but if you go to IS without a plan they'll eat you alive.
[16:07] <jono> I don't want us to spin up another web service that may fall unmaintained down the line
[16:08] <jcastro> ok maybe not eat you.
[16:08] <jcastro> :)
[16:08] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, can you email me a summary of the current proposed plan?
[16:08] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: for sure, I'll start working on that right ahead
[16:08] <jcastro> JoseeAntonioR: ok I'm out for the weekend
[16:08] <jcastro> anything else?
[16:08] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: have fun!
[16:08] <jcastro> \o/
[16:09] <jcastro> good week everyone, enjoy!
[16:11] <jono> thanks JoseeAntonioR
[16:11] <JoseeAntonioR> :)
[16:53] <marcoceppi> JoseeAntonioR: can you help me with onair?
[16:54] <marcoceppi> or anyone with access
[17:06] <marcoceppi> jono: you around?
[17:06] <marcoceppi> (can't think of anyone else who has access to on air)
[17:06] <jono> marcoceppi, I am, but on a call
[17:06] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, jcastro, can you help marcoceppi?
[17:42] <JoseeAntonioR> marcoceppi: I can
[17:42] <JoseeAntonioR> marcoceppi: but I think it's a bit late
[17:42] <marcoceppi> ehh, we're already 40 mins in, we just pated the URL in the channel
[17:43] <marcoceppi> thanks though! I couldn't log in with the credentials that jorge gave me, I was only given an open id login
[17:43] <JoseeAntonioR> marcoceppi: let's have a quick chat after this to give you full access :)
[17:44] <marcoceppi> JoseeAntonioR: k, hopefully jcastro won't abandon me next time ;) but it'll be good to know how to do
[17:44] <JoseeAntonioR> sure
[18:02] <rrnwexec> greetings :)
[18:04] <marcoceppi> JoseeAntonioR: so, what do I need to know?
[18:04] <JoseeAntonioR> marcoceppi: mind a PM?
[18:04] <JoseeAntonioR> hey, rrnwexec
[18:04] <marcoceppi> JoseeAntonioR: go for it
[21:49] <jono> mhall119,  did you see http://sergiusens.github.io/posts/google-contacts-on-ubuntu-touch.html ?
[21:58] <mhall119> jono: nope, is that just google contacts sync for e-d-s?
[22:03] <jono> mhall119, yup, works awesome on the phone
[22:03] <jono> and it erases all the fake contacts :-)
[22:03] <mhall119> nice
[22:43] <jono> mhall119, around?
[22:48] <mhall119> jono: eating dinner
[22:48] <jono> mhall119, can you reddit to /r/linux http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/05/17/dogfooding-the-ubuntu-phone-my-early-experience/ when you get a sec
[22:48] <jono> thanks mhall119
[23:10] <mhall119> jono: someone beat me to it: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1ejog7/first_experiences_dogfooding_ubuntu_touch_on_a/?already_submitted=true
[23:10] <jono> mhall119, no, /r/linux
[23:10] <jono> not /r/ubuntu
[23:17] <mhall119> oh oh, ok
[23:17] <mhall119> usually you ask for /r/Ubuntu
[23:18] <mhall119> so I didn't pay much attention ;)
[23:19] <mhall119> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1ejqno/day_1_of_using_ubuntu_touch_as_a_daily_phone/ <-- jono
[23:19] <jono> mhall119, I am taking a concerted effort to spend more time on /r/linux
[23:19] <jono> no point preaching too the choir too much :-)
[23:19] <mhall119> jono: that seems like a terrible idea :)
[23:19] <jono> thanks mhall119
[23:19] <jono> lol