[16:53] <A-dry_> is someone here using rabbitvcs for ubuntu 16.04?
[16:53] <A-dry_> I cannot get it working with a SVN Repo
[16:54] <nacc> A-dry_: what happens?
[16:56] <A-dry_> it chrashes with error -11 when i try to chechout
[16:56] <A-dry_> the Debug log just shows -11, no further error code or sth
[16:58] <sveri> Hi, since today or yesterday I cannot start eclipse anymore when connecting via RDP. I get a segfault message. When starting with gdb and running eclipsse there I get this message: program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. awmemchr () at ../sysdeps/x86_64/rawmemchr.S:37. 37      ../sysdeps/x86_64/rawmemchr.S: File not found. any ideas what is going on here?
[16:58] <nacc> A-dry_: using the ubuntu version or their PPA?
[16:59] <A-dry_> nacc: yes, right
[16:59] <A-dry_> are someone having the same issue?
[16:59] <nacc> A-dry_: ? that was an either/or question
[16:59] <dragnadh> nacc http://pastie.org/10907425
[17:00] <nacc> dragnadh: why are you running taht script?
[17:00] <nacc> dragnadh: just run `steam`
[17:00] <Jonii> tgm4883: commented the line out from crypttab file as well, and now the computer boots instantly
[17:00] <dragnadh> just gives shutdown
[17:00] <dragnadh> then
[17:01] <dragnadh> atleast there i see what errors
[17:01] <tgm4883> Jonii: nice
[17:01] <A-dry_> I'm using the PPA, sorry
[17:02] <nacc> A-dry_: does it happen with the ubuntu package? you'll need to consult the ppa owner for support of a ppa package
[17:03] <nacc> dragnadh: i'm not sure what you did, or why. You had steam installed, according to your `apt-cache policy output`. Rather than run steam, it seems like you added a PPA, and then are running a shell script to start steam. In my system, I installed steam from multiverse and I can either use the GUI menus or run `steam` and it launches fine.
[17:04] <Xard> In ubuntu 16.04 if I set the unity launcher to auto-hide and use "Top left corner" as Reveal location the Reveal sensitivity doesn
[17:04] <nacc> A-dry_: i can try reproducing with the ubuntu pacakge, i have it installed in a LXD container; what's the command you run (feel free to pastebin it)
[17:04] <Xard> doesn't seem to be very responsive even with "Reveal sensitivty" set to maximum :<
[17:05] <A-dry_> nacc: let me run some tests and I'll be back soon
[17:05] <nacc> A-dry_: np
[17:05] <A-dry_> nacc: thanks a lot for being offering your help!
[17:09] <kali_yuga> i'm using kde. my system tray "network" icon doesn't change. It just keeps the default one. before it always changed too now it doesn't anymore
[17:09] <kali_yuga> http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=98452005
[17:09] <Egyptian[Web]> hi - after installing ubuntu lts i run apt-get uprade and it updates my kernel. i need a specific version for my application. how do i tell apt to never upgrade the kernel in the future?
[17:10] <jerichowasahoax> I'm looking to harden my 16.04 server. Any good checklists?
[17:11] <Bashing-om> Egyptian[Web]: One can tell the system which kernel is the default booting kenel .
[17:11] <OerHeks> !pinning | Egyptian[Web]
[17:11] <BlapeBlops> Egyptian[Web]: Not sure if you can but it isn't hard to recompile your own Kernel. Maybe you can make a script that uses a really specific version of the kernel whenever you run upgrade
[17:12] <BlapeBlops> *recompiles
[17:12] <OerHeks> no need for compiling kernel though ..
[17:12] <tgm4883> That's hardly ever necessary
[17:13] <OerHeks> kali_yuga, why should your network icon change?? while changing a theme?
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> jerichowasahoax: https://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1604-lts-server-part-1-basics
[17:14] <jerichowasahoax> ActionParsnip: Thank you
[17:15] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: why are you so sensitive to kernel version?
[17:15] <OerHeks> ActionParsnip, i found some handy tips here too, especially with firewall and such https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-16-04
[17:15] <Egyptian[Web]> no no .. i dont want to recompile. ubuntu provides a workable version already . ..
[17:15] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: if you dont' update your kernel, you'll miss out on security fixes
[17:15] <Egyptian[Web]> nacc: ask the devs! /rof
[17:16] <OerHeks> if an app needs a specific kernel ( and not higher) , drop that app.
[17:16] <nacc> yeah, it seems fundamentally broken
[17:16] <nacc> and also violates the separation a kernel is trying to provide
[17:17] <Egyptian[Web]> OerHeks: i wish .. anyways .. i see apt pin and apt hold but nothing  to say this specific version is the one to use
[17:18] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: it can be a major security problem to not update your kernel ever, I really would not suggest you do that.
[17:18] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: if there is some API or other regression in your application due to an Ubuntu kernel update, file a bug
[17:18] <Egyptian[Web]> nacc: thanks for the word of advice
[17:20] <tgm4883> what app is this?
[17:28] <drupalpro> I'm on a ubuntu 12.04 and currently I can't ping anything outside. ping <IP_ADDRESS>  shows a network not reachable. my ifconfig settings look like this: http://prntscr.com/bswrnr  -- im not sure what to do to troubleshoot this.
[17:29] <nacc> drupalpro: you don't seem to have a default route (afaict)
[17:29] <nacc> drupalpro: did this happen all of a sudden?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> drupalpro: can you ping your default gateway?
[17:29] <drupalpro> but i never changed anything. it was working fine a few days ago.
[17:29] <drupalpro> yea just out of no where it stopped working.
[17:30] <drupalpro> i tried rebooting.
[17:30] <drupalpro> where do i see my gateway ?
[17:30] <nacc> drupalpro: it'd probably be <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:30] <drupalpro> how do i set this default route?
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> drupalpro: IP=$(/sbin/ip route | awk '/default/ { print $3 }'); echo $IP
[17:31] <drupalpro> nacc, where do u get that # from ?
[17:31] <nacc> ActionParsnip: no default route on their system
[17:31] <nacc> drupalpro: just based off typical network configs and your IP
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> nacc: that'll do it
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> drupalpro: reboot router (leave it off for a good 30 seconds) then reboot your PC
[17:32] <drupalpro> im on a vps node
[17:32] <nacc> something like `ip route add default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0`; but that shouldn't be necessary to do manually
[17:33] <drupalpro> im logged in via the web browser console page
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> drupalpro: I'd ask your provider what to set it as. It should get set via DHCP
[17:33] <drupalpro> ActionParsnip, just did your command.. got nothing: http://prntscr.com/bswu41
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> drupalpro: yes, your system doesnt know where to shove traffic to get web access
[17:35] <drupalpro> my provider is vps.net --- so i have to ask them? but why was it working find a few days ago? did the provider change something ?
[17:35] <capum321> nacc i am back
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> drupalpro: pretty much, something happened
[17:35] <capum321> nacc if 40_custom is to append
[17:36] <capum321> then how to change existing entries?
[17:36] <drupalpro> hmm.. i see a rebuild network button on the page. let me try tat.
[17:36] <drupalpro> thanks for the leads.
[17:36] <nacc> capum321: what do you want to change in the entries?
[17:37] <capum321> just the title content between single quotes
[17:37] <curlears> greets.  When booted under 14.04.4 Live DVD, where do I look for the storage device filenames?  I though they were under /dev, but I can't find them there.  I know the system sees them, because I can see them on my louncher bar on the side of the GUI screen
[17:38] <dragnadh> nacc, i installed it from the ubuntu thing like you said and now get http://pastie.org/10907449
[17:39] <drupalpro> ActionParsnip, ok that did it... rebuilt network button on the vps page
[17:39] <drupalpro> all this time ....
[17:39] <curlears> Ahh, I found them./   under /media/ubuntu/
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> drupalpro: coolio, all better ?
[17:41] <nacc> capum321: can i ask why you want to change the title? for linux, i blieve the title is defined in /etc/grub.d/10_linux
[17:41] <curlears> hey there, nacc!
[17:42] <nacc> dragnadh: what do you mean you installed it from the ubuntu thing? it was already installed on your system (per your prior output)
[17:42] <capum321> because i have Lubuntu and the title says Lubuntu and also Advanced modes for Ubuntu the second submenu
[17:42] <capum321> says Ubuntu
[17:43] <nacc> capum321: can you rephrase that? Are you saying because it says "Ubuntu" and you want it to say "Lubuntu"?
[17:43] <capum321> sorry
[17:44] <capum321> its reads Ubuntu
[17:44] <nacc> capum321: afaict, from a grub menu perspective there is no difference between Ubuntu and Lubuntu (that's purely a WM/DE thing)
[17:44] <capum321> it reads Ubuntu and I would like to be Lubuntu
[17:45] <curlears> capum321: so much worry over a minor cosmetic issue...
[17:45] <nacc> capum321: did you intsall lubuntu or the lubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[17:46] <capum321> i installed lubuntu distro
[17:47] <nacc> capum321: ok
[17:48] <nacc> capum321: i don't have a lubuntu install handy, but i guess you'd modify /etc/grub.d/10_linux to set the OS variable. Then run `update-grub`. BUt I don't think ti's worth doing
[17:49] <capum321> So can edit those scripts? i mean other than 40_custom ?
[17:49] <nacc> capum321: as root you can do whatever you want to your system
[17:49] <nacc> capum321:  you can edit 40_custom too
[17:49] <nacc> capum321: you just should know what you're doing.
[17:49] <capum321> no, let's be safe side
[17:49] <capum321> please
[17:49] <nacc> capum321: then don't edit them at all :)
[17:50] <capum321> that was against my will indeed
[17:51] <nacc> capum321: you said "safe side", it's safer to not edit system configuration files than to edit them
[17:52] <capum321> safe "tweak" side
[17:53] <nacc> capum321: tweaking grub configuration is never that safe imo. If it can't be changed in /etc/default/grub, it's not worth doing
[17:54] <baizon> guys, can someone help me? im getting this error: warning: "Sector 32 is already in use by the program `FlexNet'; avoiding it.  This software may cause boot or other problems in future.  Please ask its authors not to store data in the boot track"
[17:54] <baizon> i never did install anything from flexnet
[17:54] <nils_> baizon, when are you getting this error, what are you trying to do?
[17:55] <evanvarvell> ...
[17:55] <baizon> nils_: since my last update (apt-get upgrade)
[17:55] <nils_> baizon, do you know at what step?
[17:55] <BeachBall> I have installed vsftpd on a fresh install of ubuntu 16.something server - I have a useraccount with password setup, I have uncommected write_enable = YES in config and restarted the service - it fails the logon
[17:56] <capum321> nacc ok thanks i will find more adventureous tutorials to me tweak this thing though
[17:56] <baizon> nils_: i guess grup-update
[17:56] <akik> baizon: flexnet is a license management software
[17:56] <nacc> capum321: i already told you what you need to tweak?
[17:56] <baizon> grub*
[17:56] <nils_> baizon, yeah or grub-install
[17:56] <baizon> akik: but i dont have anything from them?
[17:56] <BeachBall> my password for the user is 5Bev?6V7sAu+ZJfZn$#5n_G=MEPUFE could that be causing a problem with vsftpd?
[17:57] <nils_> baizon, I would suggest you wipe the boot sector ;)
[17:57] <OerHeks> baizon,  some software, adobe photoshop installs flexnet iirc
[17:57] <capum321> nacc sure thing, you sound very confident, "i guess..."
[17:57] <nils_> but it'll destroy flexnet.
[17:57] <baizon> OerHeks: i dont have windows, or wine
[17:57] <capum321> nacc or is it a manner of speak?
[17:58] <nacc> capum321: i'm not willing to test it locally, as i don't think it's worth doing. Changing the OS variable assignment should do what you want
[17:58] <OerHeks> baizon, Adobe Photoshop, CAD/CAM, Rosetta Stone, Matlab or others
[17:58] <baizon> OerHeks: i got none of them
[17:59] <OerHeks> so what 3th party software is that, or maybe it is installed on windows 7/8/10 .. gives same result
[17:59] <capum321> nacc have a great time
[17:59] <OerHeks> *as it writes sector32
[17:59] <baizon> OerHeks: i dont have windows. I'm pure on ubuntu, thats why i curious what it can be
[18:00] <nicomachus> baizon: did the machine ever have windows? possibly a small recovery partition?
[18:01] <baizon> nicomachus: yes it has windows a year ago
[18:01] <baizon> nicomachus: but why did it pop up this day?
[18:01] <nicomachus> non-serious probably unlikely answer that someone'll yell at me for: the Windows 10 bogeyman
[18:02] <OerHeks> adobereader perhaps ..
[18:03] <newbie|2> any updates on fan speed for 16.04
[18:03] <newbie|2> for laptops
[18:04] <BlapeBlops> Is it higher on 16.04?
[18:04] <k1l> newbie|2: that is device specific. most times its best to make sure the bios is uptodate
[18:04] <newbie|2> fans speed goes up and down
[18:04] <newbie|2> it is a lenova
[18:04] <BlapeBlops> More variability in fan speeds than on 14?
[18:04] <newbie|2> 14.10 fan speed was no issue
[18:05] <OerHeks> up and down sounds good. better than full speed default.
[18:05] <k1l> newbie|2: maybe you need to clean the laptop from dust.
[18:07] <BlapeBlops> exit
[18:07] <steven> how can one read rfc's locally? I installed doc-rfc and it drops a bunch of gz files on the fs but how do I actually read those rfc's?
[18:09] <user12> hello
[18:10] <user12> Can someone help me with my computer? it stalled downloading the 16.04 update and now it won't access the internet or bring up the GUI
[18:10] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, strange question here. I am using the unity default interface (compiz installed) I often end up opening a large amount of GNOME terminals for my work, and when I click to choose one I see many screens that look the same. (not sure what the unity effect is called where all windows are shown 'zoomed out' for you to choose from) Usually they do not seem to be in order very well. Can I sort this 'zoomed out choose a
[18:10] <Pinkamena_D> window' view by date opened or date used?
[18:11] <Alecs> user12, do you use amd closed source drivers?
[18:11] <user12> yeah i have x86_64 architecture
[18:11] <WooHoo> user12, did you try the command 'startx' ?
[18:11] <Alecs> well, those drivers won't work on 16.04
[18:12] <k1l> WooHoo: user12 dont run startx on ubuntu. start the dm (lightdm) to start the xserver
[18:12] <jinxi1> how do I know what driver I am using for my nvidia card?
[18:12] <user12> Thats the problem 'lightdm' won't start as a daemon on my computer
[18:13] <user12> i tried to kill the service and restart it but it won't  restart
[18:13] <Alecs> remove fglrx
[18:13] <Alecs> follow this guide http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-proprietary-ati-drivers#68312
[18:13] <k1l> user12: boot without "splash quiet" as kernerl parameters and see where it errors
[18:14] <user12> honestly i think I'm going to try to reinstall 14.04 at this point
[18:15] <user12> i have it back up on a low graphics interface, who can i get it rerunning again?
[18:16] <k1l> user12: so what video card is it?
[18:17] <user12> k11 i can't tell you now because I can access the terminal from the mode I'm in now
[18:20] <user12> how can I convert an .iso file to a bootable USB from the command line? that way i can just boot up a new one and try again
[18:22] <alt^255> Hi. Is it possible that in ubuntu 16.04, running system() in a program suid or setgid will drop the privileges
[18:22] <alt^255> ?
[18:22] <Loshki> user12: modern images can just be dd'ed to a usb stick. And if you have the right version of grub, you can boot directly from the iso on disk.
[18:23] <user12> what version of Grub would I need to do that? i already have a .iso on my usb
[18:24] <sojaus> I have been trying to install uTox but can't manage to do it correctly. I am on xubuntu 16.04 32bit and this build "installs" but then doesn't appear anywhere in menus or .files https://build.tox.chat/view/uTox/job/uTox_pkg_linux_deb_shared_xenial_x86_nightly_release/
[18:25] <sojaus> If I take it from the github and extract it I get an executable which I can run...but I don't know where to put it. I tried to put it in /bin but nothing changes. I don't want to run it from the downlaods folder and want it to appear in menus.
[18:26] <k1l> user12: use "dd" to burn it to a usb on terminal
[18:26] <cyource> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu on WSL - how can I permenantly save exported env. vars via commands
[18:26] <sojaus> i am not real clear on the file system so please use noob directions
[18:26] <sojaus> here is the github I used V
[18:27] <sojaus> oops sorry https://github.com/GrayHatter/uTox
[18:30] <cyource> help would be awesome
[18:32] <user12> k11 what would the command look like if the iso was within the usb as opposed to the Desktop?
[18:33] <OerHeks> sojaus, open terminal, cd Downloads , ./utox [enter]
[18:33] <sojaus> so I make a dot file in my home folder?
[18:33] <sojaus> do I just drop the executable in it or is there more to it?
[18:34] <k1l> user12: sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdx where sdx is the usb. but it will erase the whole usb.
[18:34] <OerHeks> sojaus, they should provide you a launcher, now you have to make it yourself >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[18:34] <user12> a;right thank you.  just ran that.  hope it workds
[18:35] <sojaus> OerHeks: I don't quite understand ./  I have seen .file in hidden places but I don't understand ./
[18:35] <sojaus> isn't /  my home directory?
[18:36] <EriC^^> /home/<user> is your home directory
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> sojaus  no, ~ means home
[18:36] <EriC^^> ~/ is your home
[18:36] <linuxfool> Hey everyone. If I am running Ubuntu server on a machine without a GUI, can I SSH into the server from a machine capable of running GUI applications and run GUI applications from the server but displayed on the client that I SSH'd into from?
[18:36] <sojaus> ok so if I make ./uTox where would I find that?
[18:36] <EriC^^> linuxfool: yeah, with x-forwarding, if it's enabled
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> linuxfool  no, because server doen not run X
[18:37] <nacc> sojaus: ./ just means run 'uTox' as found in . (the current directory)
[18:37] <OerHeks> to start from bash, you need ./ in front of the name, else you add it to your path
[18:37] <EriC^^> ssh -X user@host
[18:37] <sojaus> ooohhh. I thought I was making a dirctory to put that extracted executable in
[18:37] <nacc> linuxfool: yes, you can, it may need configuration or installation of pacakges as EriC^^ and MonkeyDust are saying
[18:37] <user12> alright it didn't work k11
[18:38] <sojaus> is there a way to manually place that executable where it would go with a proper package installation?
[18:38] <OerHeks> sojaus, you can, place it in /opt/  and it will be available for all users on that machine
[18:38] <user12> i got the error 'isolinux.bin not found/corrupted'
[18:38] <sojaus> OerHeks: thanks will try that
[18:38] <user12> how would i fix that
[18:38] <nacc> linuxfool: although, my typical response is if you're running on a server without a GUI, why is it running applicatiosn with a GUI?
[18:38] <k1l> user12: that is not an ubuntu iso
[18:38] <nacc> OerHeks: hrm, really? /opt isn't on my users's path by default
[18:39] <linuxfool> EriC^^: So as long as I have the correct packages installed on the server and client, I can run something like firefox using the server's resources on a client through SSH even though the server would be unable to run Friefox since it doesn't have a GUI?
[18:39] <user12> i downloaded it from http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[18:39] <nacc> linuxfool: running firefox remotely is a terrible idea :)
[18:39] <OerHeks> nacc, true, it isnt, next step would be make a group for that app, and add users to it
[18:39] <k1l> user12: and its called "isolinux.bin"?
[18:39] <user12> k11 maybe it got corrupted?
[18:39] <nacc> OerHeks: ack, just checking
[18:39] <sojaus> OerHeks: do I need to make a directory for it or just drop the executable there? The only thing in there now is a printer driver directory
[18:40] <nacc> OerHeks: just didn't want sojaus to think that was all that was needed
[18:40] <user12> not exactly let me get the exact file name
[18:40] <tgm4883> linuxfool: I'm almost certain that whatever you're trying to do, that you are doing it wrong
[18:40] <OerHeks> sojaus, make a propper folder for it.
[18:40] <linuxfool> nacc: I need to run a small little program that's not very graphically intensive but I'm also using the server to PXE boot a few laptops. I'd like to have everything running off one server
[18:40] <k1l> user12: use tab-completion to make sure you dont have typos
[18:40] <nacc> linuxfool: but what does that have to do with firefox? :)
[18:40] <OerHeks> sojaus, that would be easier to handle, making a (user)group for that app
[18:41] <curlyears> I am confused.  I type dd -if=<.isoname> of=/media/ubuntu/ADATA\ UDF  and I get the following error message:  dd: failed to open ‘/media/ubuntu/ADATA UFD/’: Is a directory
[18:41] <sojaus> when I was digging around I found /bin was full of all the app executables...why is that not the right place for this?
[18:41] <nacc> sojaus: /bin and /usr/bin are meant to be for packages installed by your OS, not for things built from source, etc.
[18:41] <user12> the error message reads 'isolinux.bin missing or corrupt' k11
[18:41] <sojaus> I don't quite understand where everything is put when the system installs for me...so trying to grasp it
[18:41] <EriC^^> curlyears: dd expects a filename not a dir
[18:41] <nacc> sojaus: that way those directories are under the control of the package manager (apt/dpkg)
[18:41] <linuxfool> It doesn't, I was using it as an example.  No 3D graphics or antying, but the program has to be run off a server so clients can access it in a browser using a local IP address
[18:41] <EriC^^> of=/dev/something curlyears
[18:42] <kyle__> How do you get ntp into ubuntu server now?  My 16.04 laptop has it, but I don't see the packages when I search on my server.
[18:42] <sojaus> nacc: so if I manually place an executable in /bin what will happen? Nothing?
[18:42] <k1l> user12: why is it talking about isolinux.bin?
[18:42] <linuxfool> and the adminstrator panel is a simple interface but it is graphical
[18:42] <nacc> !info ntp xenial | kyle__
[18:42] <linuxfool> plus it's a windows only file so I need to run it through wine
[18:42] <nacc> kyle__: server and deskopt use the same packages
[18:42] <curlyears> Eric^:   I am trying to dd the 16.04 installer onto my USB drive.  That is the name the USB drive is listed under for the media devices
[18:42] <user12> i don't know why; the boot screen says that when i try to boot from usb
[18:43] <EriC^^> curlyears: that might be the mountpoint
[18:43] <nacc> sojaus: it would also work, but you'd be making your system harder to maintain
[18:43] <k1l> user12: .....
[18:43] <kyle__> nacc: I'm confused.  apt-cache search ntp returns nothing on my newly installed server.
[18:43] <EriC^^> curlyears: try the name at the start, sdc1 or sdb1 etc, like /dev/sdc1
[18:43] <tgm4883> curlyears: you need to point it at the device, not the mount point
[18:43] <k1l> user12: i thought you were talking about the dd command giving an error.
[18:43] <nacc> kyle__: have you run `apt update` ?
[18:43] <kyle__> Yes.  And installed many things so far.
[18:43] <EriC^^> curlyears: actually just the disk, not the partition, so /dev/sdc /dev/sdb ...
[18:43] <user12> no no i already did the 'dd' command
[18:44] <kyle__> Well, my chef recipes have.
[18:44] <sojaus> nacc: so anything I do manually needs to go in /opt then? also why did the printer drivers install to /opt? I didnt move them there
[18:44] <user12> i was trying to boot from the usb now
[18:44] <k1l> user12: where did you dd the the file to exactly? /dev/... ?
[18:44] <sojaus> im struggling understanding the FS and feel stupid
[18:44] <curlyears> Eric^:  I am trying to creat a bootable 16.04 installer.  I donm't have access to my DVD writer, so I have to do it via USB.  What is the correct dd command to accomplish this?  the if="ubuntu16<blah>.iso
[18:44] <nacc> kyle__: apt-cache search ntp on my system produces 161 lines here :/
[18:44] <tgm4883> sojaus: 'man hier'
[18:44] <nacc> tgm4883: nice one
[18:44] <tgm4883> sojaus: that explains the filesystem
[18:44] <curlyears> s/"//
[18:44] <tgm4883> well
[18:44] <Apachez> in ubuntu 16.04, where do I alter which Hz the gfx card will output to the monitor?
[18:44] <tgm4883> the directory structure I mean, not the filesystem
[18:44] <sojaus> tgm4883: thanks
[18:45] <user12> i dd the file to /media/usb,  which i mounted /dev/sdb1 to so i could access the usb
[18:45] <Apachez> suddently the builtin intel gfx on a laptop seems to operate at 40Hz'ish instead of the regular 60 Hz...
[18:45] <sojaus> is fs and directory structure not the same thing?
[18:45] <linuxfool> And if that's not the best idea, should I just run it off a desktop instead?
[18:45] <kyle__> nacc: Doh!  My chef recipes change the sources.list file to a specific mirror, and apparently hadn't run update afterwards.
[18:45] <nacc> sojaus: /opt is recommended, yes; or possible /usr/local
[18:45] <nicomachus> curlyears: why not just use Startup Disk Creator instead of dd?
[18:45] <tgm4883> sojaus: nope
[18:45] <k1l> user12: that is all wrong
[18:45] <user12> how so?
[18:45] <nacc> sojaus: fs = filesystem (btrfs, zfs, etc) and directory structure is the layout of directories (agnostic to fs type)
[18:46] <k1l> user12: you need to dd it to "/dev/sdb" not /dev/sdb1" or /media/usb.
[18:46] <curlyears> nicomachus: good question.  Because I didn't know there was such a utility? (and will it write a bootable installer to my USB thumb?)
[18:46] <sojaus> nacc: see this confuses me when you can do it more than one way. I will use the example of themes. I put them in /usr/share/themes but others told me to make a new themes directory in home
[18:46] <nacc> sojaus: you should not be mucking /usr/share generally
[18:46] <nicomachus> curlyears: yes, it will. just search for it in the Dash.
[18:46] <nacc> sojaus: taht is under the control of packages
[18:46] <user12> why does it have to be /dev/sdb ?  I cd'd to the usb and 'ls' shows the files from it
[18:47] <nacc> sojaus: there are often multiple ways of doing things.Some are "better" than others for maintainability
[18:47] <sojaus> nacc: also can you clear up how people use / ? I thought this was root....but I see people type this as home as well
[18:47] <k1l> user12: because that is how  this stuff on the terminal works.
[18:47] <nacc> sojaus: ? / is the root fileysystem directory
[18:47] <user12> alright ill try that
[18:47] <k1l> user12: i told you to dd to the bare usb. and that it will erase the whole usb.
[18:47] <nacc> sojaus: unrelated to the user "root" or anything to dow ith "home"
[18:48] <MaybeAName> Hey
[18:48] <MaybeAName> I'm trying to use binfmt-support to run an i386 binary on a Raspberry Pi, doesn't need to be fast just needs to run
[18:48] <nacc> linuxfool: typically, a server is running server-like stuff
[18:48] <tgm4883> sojaus: / by itself is never home, are you sure it wasn't ~/
[18:48] <nacc> linuxfool: if your server is goign to run a graphical application, it will need the deps for the graphical application to run, i assume
[18:48] <sojaus> tgm4883: perhaps I misread yes
[18:48] <MaybeAName> I have qemu-user-static, binfmt-support, and I've added the i386 architecture with dpkg --add-architecture
[18:49] <MaybeAName> And shows up as a foreign architecture. Also added the non ports repos, and done apt-get update, but, apt install libc6:i386 fails
[18:49] <MaybeAName> Any ideas? Says it isn't found
[18:49] <sojaus> so if / is root what is the root directory under /?
[18:49] <tgm4883> sojaus: the root users home directory
[18:49] <curlyears> OK. *FINALLY* creating a bootable USB installer thumb
[18:49] <nacc> sojaus: you mean /root? that is the root user's home directory
[18:50] <sojaus> what is that for? I thought when you were running as root it was only for system wide changes...why would you need a user directory when root?
[18:50] <tgm4883> sojaus: technically, / is just the top of the directory tree. We just always call it the root directory (since the base of a tree is the root)
[18:50] <k1l> sojaus: on ubuntu there is no root user account with login. so that user doesnt exist in that way. that is why we use sudo.
[18:51] <tgm4883> sojaus: many reasons the root user needs a home directory. For instance, what if the root user needs an SSH key? Where would you store it if there wasn't a home directory for the root user?
[18:51] <curlyears> it seems to be about 1/2 finished
[18:51] <curlyears> I will disappear for a while, as I am going to attempt to install 16.04 on this beast
[18:52] <sojaus> so my home folder is my media and profile settings right?
[18:52] <curlyears> nacc, K1l_:    wish me luck!!!!!!!
[18:52] <tgm4883> sojaus: it contains those things generally, yes
[18:53] <arooni> yeah
[18:53] <sojaus> mine is 50GB...could I paste that in place of a home folder on another installation and it would work?
[18:53] <tgm4883> sojaus: generally yes
[18:54] <sojaus> if I wanted to do a manual backup to extermal drives is that a reasonable way? Just copy my entire home folder?
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> sojaus  that's how i do it, with rsync
[18:54] <k1l> yes
[18:54] <EriC^^> +1 rsync
[18:54] <tgm4883> sojaus: if you were moving it to the same version of ubuntu, it wouldn't have issues. If you were moving it to a different version or OS, you might run into some minor issues
[18:54] <tgm4883> sojaus: yes, I'd run tar or something instead of rsync for a proper backup
[18:54] <sojaus> So whats the way to save things that avoids issues?
[18:54] <k1l> because the system can be isntalled easily with a iso again. you can save a list a installed packages and some settings in /etc too
[18:55] <sojaus> say you went to another flavor of ubuntu etc
[18:55] <sojaus> and would it matter if you went from 32bit 16.04 to 64bit in this case?
[18:55] <k1l> sojaus: you can change to another flavor with installing the other desktop
[18:55] <nacc> afaict, the supported flavors use the same base packages, so that should translate, as long as you are on the same version of the pacakge
[18:56] <tgm4883> sojaus: no need to reinstall for a different flavor, just install the -desktop package from the repos
[18:56] <nacc> sojaus: bitness shouldn't matter either (again, presuming same versions)
[18:56] <sojaus> would anything in my 32bit home folder settings mess up on a 64bit install?
[18:56] <sojaus> ok thanks
[18:57] <sojaus> tgm4883: does doing it that way make things "messier"? since different flavors have different defaults? Like right now Ihave Xubuntu16.04...if I installed xfce on ubuntu 16.04 would it be identical to xubuntu 16.04 or would it have ubuntu apps and settings with xfce desktop?
[18:57] <tgm4883> you'd have both sets of apps installed
[18:58] <sojaus> I have read removing default apps can cause issues...is this true?
[18:58] <tgm4883> depends on the default app
[18:58] <tgm4883> removing systemd would cause issues
[18:59] <sojaus> theses sites said dependencies can be messed up or removed
[18:59] <sojaus> if you delete default apps...not systemd etc but say like a mail client or broswer that is default
[18:59] <tgm4883> sojaus: nothing bad should happen provided you look at what it's trying to do
[19:00] <sojaus> tgm4883: problem is I don't know what stuff does well enough. say there is a default media player and I want to remove it and put another. can removing it mess up the system due to this dependency thing?
[19:00] <tgm4883> sojaus: most likely no
[19:01] <sojaus> id have to find the link again for the example they used but it was something like this where removing this default application took something improtant with it and screwed up the isntall
[19:01] <tgm4883> sojaus: yea find the link
[19:01] <tgm4883> I'd like to see that
[19:02] <sojaus> tgm4883: I was trying to find a way to install the base system and then add apps I want...I found xubuntu core but am not sure I'd end up better off doing that over the full install and removing/replacing
[19:02] <sojaus> i didn't want to end up with a bunch of detritus and messed up settings
[19:03] <tgm4883> sojaus: you could install ubuntu server and install stuff from there
[19:04] <sojaus> tgm4883: how bare bones is that? I would like something that has the xfce desktop and normal utilities and system apps...but let me choose the apps like browser and media players and that stuff
[19:04] <tgm4883> sojaus: it starts as command line only
[19:04] <sojaus> oowff....too much for me then
[19:05] <tgm4883> sojaus: personally, I'd just install the default install and customize from there
[19:06] <sojaus> I am discovering that things get left behind when I remove things with apt-get purge or with the software center...it doesn't remove bits in my home directory hidden files
[19:06] <sojaus> is cleaning this up maually the only way?
[19:06] <jilocasin0> afternoon all
[19:06] <xangua> sojaus: yes
[19:06] <nacc> sojaus: your home directory is not under the pureview of the package manager
[19:06] <nacc> *purview
[19:07] <jilocasin0> anyone know how I can get the software updater to stop trying to install updates for a kernel I'm not running?
[19:07] <nacc> jilocasin0: what do you mean?
[19:07] <sojaus> I am never sure where things will be...seems .config .cache .gconf and .local  often have bits left
[19:07] <jilocasin0> nacc: running 4.6.2, keep getting security updates for 4.4.0
[19:07] <nacc> sojaus: those are all in your home directory, and which is used is technically application-specific
[19:07] <sojaus> is there no way to all at once remove those bits?
[19:07] <nacc> jilocasin0: so you'r enot running an Ubuntu kernel?
[19:08] <k1l> jilocasin0: remove "linux-generic" then
[19:08] <k1l> jilocasin0: but those updates are there for a reason. if you use mainline or other kernels you need to take care of that of your own
[19:08] <tgm4883> sojaus: you could just leave them...
[19:08] <jilocasin0> nacc: I had to update to the 4.6 branch as my skylake processor isn't fully supported under 4.4 (esp Intel HD graphics)
[19:08] <tgm4883> ah, know that issue
[19:09] <sojaus> tgm4883: it feels "dirty" with crap laying around...they will have no effect though?
[19:09] <tgm4883> sojaus: that's why they are hidden :)
[19:09] <jilocasin0> running 4.6.2-040602-generic #201606100516 SMP
[19:09] <nacc> jilocasin0: you can remove linux-generic and that should remove linux-image-generic, etc.
[19:09] <k1l> sojaus: its just a few bytes. dont mind them
[19:09] <nacc> jilocasin0: right there is an issue, 4.6.4 is out
[19:09] <nacc> jilocasin0: so you're possibly missing updates already :)
[19:10] <jilocasin0> nacc: but I definately don't need 68MB of 4.4 updates.
[19:10] <nacc> jilocasin0: ok, so do the removal as suggested, but also update your kernel to be current
[19:10] <k1l> jilocasin0: we told you already what to do
[19:10] <sojaus> so when I use apt-get or software center to install things...it puts the executable in /bin and the desktop launcher part in /usr/share/applicaitons and the settings in a dot file in home right?
[19:10] <nacc> sojaus: no, it puts an executable in /usr/bin
[19:11] <jilocasin0> k1I:removing generic won't remove the one I'm using (which is also -generic)
[19:11] <sojaus> nacc: so what are the executables in /bin?
[19:11] <tgm4883> sojaus: no, it puts settings generally in /etc
[19:11] <jilocasin0> here goes nothin.....
[19:11] <nacc> sojaus: did you *read* `man hier` ?
[19:11] <nacc> sojaus: as suggested a while back
[19:11] <tgm4883> it literally spells it out for you :)
[19:11] <k1l> jilocasin0: its a metapackage. if you remove that apt autoremove should clean the rest
[19:11] <sojaus> yes....I see the decriptions...but its hard for me to visualise...I am very visual not good at text
[19:12] <tgm4883> It's hard to visualize "This directory contains executable programs which are needed in single user mode and to bring the system up or repair it."
[19:12] <sojaus> its why I am struggling with command line and do better with discoverable guis...I am trying to look through the directories in thunar and understand where things are
[19:12] <sojaus> and why
[19:12] <nacc> sojaus: you should, if you really want to learn this, learn to use the terminal and understand the text
[19:12] <nacc> it's not really a GUI-oriented thing
[19:12] <sojaus> nacc: I am trying...
[19:12] <tgm4883> sojaus: Why are you trying to learn all this?
[19:13] <tgm4883> I feel like we're past the point of a random curiosity
[19:13] <nacc> sojaus: generally, applications put 'default' settings in /etc or /usr/ somewhere. When they are first run by a given user, the application creates something in ~/ which has the users's customizations. But that's not owned by the pakcage manager but by the executable itself
[19:14] <CodeMouse92> sojaus: I'm coming in VERY late on the convo, so I have no context, but "The Linux Command Line" by William Shotts is superb for learning the Linux command line. (Online version is free) linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php/
[19:14] <sojaus> tgm4883: I have had a lot of issues tyring to isntall things and getting answers has led to more quesitons so I am trying to understand why fixes will or wont work and to not feel so frustrated when things donpt just "work"
[19:14] <curlyears> off to try installinfg 16.04   back in a while
[19:14] <tgm4883> sojaus: ok
[19:15] <deep> hi friends ...i was trying to set some env variables in bashrc as a result of whcih i am getting this error on each and every command
[19:15] <sojaus> with OSX I just dragged the dmg into the app folder and never understoof where anything was....its not always that simple with linux
[19:15] <deep> Error
[19:15] <deep> Command 'ssh' is available in '/usr/bin/ssh'
[19:15] <deep> The command could not be located because '/usr/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[19:15] <tgm4883> sojaus: and with good reason
[19:15] <sojaus> and when things dont happen like a tutorial says I feel lost
[19:15] <deep> can anyone tell me what went wrong with already executing commands and files
[19:15] <sojaus> and dont always understand the resolution
[19:16] <tgm4883> sojaus: you'd need to post the link to the tutorial
[19:16] <we_are_one> deep #bash
[19:16] <tgm4883> deep: nobody can tell you whats wrong with something that you don't post
[19:16] <nacc> deep: what did you change? in ~/.bashrc or /etc/bashrc? sounds like you modified your PATH incorrectly
[19:17] <sojaus> sure I didnt save them unfortunately. An example would be trying to install veracrypt. I had issues with the main page method. I found a ppa method that some said was good andsome said not. then I found a command line method that DID work so I saved it
[19:17] <deep> nacc, ~/.bashrc
[19:17] <nacc> deep: ok, what did you change?
[19:17] <deep> we_are_one,  i didnt get it  #bash ...
[19:17] <deep> i added haddop env vars in it
[19:18] <deep> hadoop
[19:18] <sojaus> I see different direcitons as to where and how to put things...and I can never be sure if its just opinion or if there is a turly important reason
[19:18] <sojaus> so trying to learn where things SHOULD go
[19:19] <jilocasin0> apparently we are up to 4.6.4...
[19:19] <tgm4883> sojaus: which is where 'man hier' comes in
[19:19] <totes> Hey guys whats the goto site for sharing small packaged configuration files ect?
[19:19] <tgm4883> sojaus: I suggest you read that, then let us know if you have question after that
[19:20] <sojaus> another is Tor Browser...I got it from the software center...but then I read from Tor saying you shouldnt use the ubuntu repositories but when I try to intall TBB with the Tor direcitons it doens't put it in the same places and menus as the repository...like Tox earlier it has to be moved manully and I dont know where
[19:20] <deep> nacc, we_are_one .. any idea
[19:20] <tgm4883> sojaus: I'm almost certain you should never be manually moving things
[19:20] <tgm4883> sojaus: ever
[19:20] <sojaus> tgm ok like uToc
[19:20] <sojaus> Utox
[19:21] <Starky> sojaus: Well, at least Tor Browser can be put anywhere, like your Desktop.
[19:21] <tgm4883> sojaus: ok, what about it
[19:21] <scottlws20> utox is safe to install from the repos
[19:21] <curlyears> +what ther 8&^T*&^*(&^ is Utox?
[19:21] <sojaus> if I extract it instead of it installing....like most apps...it just extracts an executable icon in the downloads folder...as we discussed before
[19:21] <nacc> deep: please pastebin your .bashrc or your hcanges
[19:21] <scottlws20> utox is like a decentralized, encrypted skype
[19:21] <nacc> deep: you haven't told us *exactly* what you did, impossible to help
[19:21] <tgm4883> sojaus: ok, so run that file?
[19:21] <sojaus> some said move uTox to a new directory in /opt for example
[19:21] <tgm4883> scottlws20: please stop
[19:22] <sojaus> well I dont want to leave it sitting in the downloads folder and run it from there
[19:22] <sojaus> it just seems weird to do it that way
[19:22] <we_are_one> deep :
[19:22] <sojaus> but I am not sure where I can safely move it to that is best
[19:22] <we_are_one> $PATH
[19:22] <tgm4883> sojaus: so then make a bin folder in your home directory and put it there
[19:22] <Egyptian[Web]> could someone enlighten me on why this isnt working?  https://thepb.in/p/X6hBPp26L64U3
[19:22] <OerHeks> sojaus, wait, you asked the best place for it, so that would be /opt/ ..
[19:22] <we_are_one> what's its output ?
[19:22] <sojaus> OerHeks: yes I followed your directions...I am just trying to understand the whys....
[19:23] <tgm4883> sojaus: you should never* be copying stuff manually to locations outside of your home directory
[19:23] <curlyears> sojaus: then move the downloaded file to where you *DO* want it extracted to, and run it to extract at that location
[19:23] <deep> nacc, oks but for now am not able to open any file
[19:23] <tgm4883> curlyears: not really helpful
[19:23] <sojaus> curlyears: so move the tar.xz to /opt and extract it there?
[19:24] <sojaus> how does that differ from cut and pasting the executable to /opt?
[19:25] <deep> This is the error i am getting :http://pastebin.com/iQhpQLm3 we_are_one  ,
[19:25] <tgm4883> sojaus: assuming that the .tar.gz file contains only the executable, then nothing
[19:25] <sojaus> normally I would choose "extract using software center" or whatever
[19:25] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: becuase <IP_ADDRESS>-generic isn't a version string?
[19:25] <deep> nacc,  : http://pastebin.com/iQhpQLm3
[19:25] <k1l> sojaus: ubuntu got a packagemanagement. it makes sure programs work and keep security and heavy bugfix updates.
[19:25] <k1l> sojaus: so if you fiddle with other 3rd party code, you loose that things.
[19:25] <we_are_one> deep: type $PATH
[19:26] <nacc> deep: fine, pastebin the output of `/bin/cat ~/.bashrc` ?
[19:26] <sojaus> tgm4883: in most cases there are more than just an executable right? at least when Ihave looked. Is the rest the stuff that the package manager puts in /usr/share and whatnot?
[19:26] <nicomachus> we_are_one: do you need help with something?
[19:26] <user12> k11 to be completely clear, if my usb is 'sdc1', i should dd to 'sdc'  and not 'sdc1' correct?
[19:26] <we_are_one> no why ?
[19:26] <nicomachus> oh nvm
[19:26] <tgm4883> sojaus: again, you shouldn't be manually copying stuff outside your home directory
[19:26] <jilocasin0> 'ello again everyone.
[19:26] <sojaus> kll thats for things you can get from the repos right? These are things not in them like uTox, veracrypt, etc
[19:26] <k1l> user12: yes. it doesnt boot if you dd to the partition. you need to dd to the bare metal
[19:27] <user12> k11: alrighty
[19:27] <k1l> sojaus: yes.
[19:27] <we_are_one> deep export PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin
[19:27] <notadeveloper> how to use amd and nvidia together in ubuntu?
[19:27] <notadeveloper> i have 3 monitors only 1 works
[19:28] <deep> we_are_one,  what will this last command do ?
[19:28] <notadeveloper> 1 is on amd
[19:28] <deep> change the path
[19:28] <jilocasin0> removed linux-generic (then autoremove) upgraded to 4.6.4 (latest, and rebooted).  First thing that happens is the software updater tells me I have 68.3 MB of security updates for the _4.4_ kernel. :(
[19:28] <sojaus> tgm4883:  I heard you...not arguing. I was asking about extraction since uTox is the first time its only been an executable in there...the other times there are other directories...are those the things the package manager moves to the various plces like usr/share and /bin etc?
[19:28] <we_are_one> add path
[19:28] <we_are_one> try
[19:28] <sojaus> k1l: thanks
[19:29] <sojaus> I am trying to understand why uTox is just a single executable....but the others have so much extra stuff...what is that extra stuff?
[19:29] <deep> we_are_one, http://pastebin.com/VzN646Pr
[19:29] <deep> if i need to edit this how do i do now
[19:29] <deep> when am not able to open any file \
[19:29] <tgm4883> sojaus: everything apparently bundled in utox?
[19:30] <sojaus> is that not how linux applications are normally done then?
[19:30] <sojaus> When I was asking all the "what goes where" stuff thats what I was getting at. It seems some put a lot of stuff in a lot of places...and uTox for example has one thing...and doesnt put it anywhere automatically
[19:31] <tgm4883> sojaus: I give up. I've got more important things to do than walk you through what 'man hier' is
[19:31] <we_are_one> did you try export PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin first ?
[19:31] <sojaus> wow
[19:31] <tgm4883> sojaus: honestly not trying to be mean, but I've got stuff I need to get done
[19:32] <notadeveloper> 1 is on amd
[19:32] <notadeveloper> how to use amd and nvidia together in ubuntu?
[19:32] <sojaus> well it was mean...I have read man hier...its not explaining what I am asking. You dont owe me you time but it gets old seeing people say "read this" and then getting pissed when that doesnt clerar it up
[19:32] <sojaus> not everyone learns the same way sorry
[19:33] <we_are_one> And check if these path are correct to your folders and files
[19:33] <sojaus> I always google and read first because people get so pissed if you don't just "get" things...but sometimes google doesnt solve it
[19:33] <OerHeks> tgm4883, that utox tag does not even contain a read.me or license..
[19:33] <tgm4883> sojaus: different developers package things differently. If you want to know why a specific developer packaged everything into a single file, then you should ask the developer of that app
[19:33] <sojaus> ok
[19:35] <tgm4883> sojaus: your safest bet is going to be falling back to "install only from the repos. If you have to get software elsewhere, create a directory in your home directory (eg. ~/bin) put the file(s) there and add that to your PATH
[19:35] <deep> we_are_one, i changed the path but now if i do source ~/.bashrc  again am getting error
[19:36] <sojaus> tgm these issues all came up because several things I wanted were not IN the repos...I will make the bin folder thnks
[19:36] <jilocasin0> tgm4883: unless it's software that you want to share across users (ex: eclipse) then I usually put it in /opt
[19:36] <tgm4883> jilocasin0: thanks for that...
[19:36] <jilocasin0> tgm4883: np
[19:36] <nacc> jilocasin0: you *might* need to remove more metapacakges
[19:37] <we_are_one> What error ?
[19:37] <nacc> jilocasin0: e.g., linux-image-generic (although i thought linux-generic took care of that)
[19:37] <jilocasin0> nacc:  meta this, meta that, pretty soon we are talking _real_packages_ ;>
[19:37] <deep> Error :http://pastebin.com/1Vh0fT1J
[19:38] <nacc> deep: did you ever provide your  modified .bashrc ?
[19:38] <we_are_one> vi /etc/environments
[19:38] <we_are_one> paste its output
[19:38] <nacc> we_are_one: i feel like that's going down a rathole, let's just undo what deep modified such that PATH got unset
[19:39] <deep> nacc, i didnt get you ..provide my  .bashrc
[19:39] <nacc> deep: did you pastebin the contents of what you changed or what is in your .bashrc now?
[19:39] <tgm4883> deep: please pastebin your .bashrc so we can see what it's trying to do
[19:39] <jilocasin0> nacc: Package 'linux-image-generic' is not installed, so not removed
[19:39] <deep> i paste bin the error am getting on doing sourec ~/.bashrc
[19:40] <tgm4883> deep: no, pastebin your actual file
[19:40] <deep> let me paste bin my bashrc
[19:40] <sojaus> jilocasin0: so is it ok to move the uTox executable to /opt because I couple of people have said that and a coupls said never move things outside home...its confusing
[19:40] <Jordan_U> we_are_one: Please don't recommend using "vi" in place of cat. Many new users (and quite a few old ones as well) will have understandable difficulty figuring out how to exit vi, and "cat" is the appropriate tool for this job anyway.
[19:41] <nacc> jilocasin0: you might also just remove the kernel package that's trying to be updated?
[19:41] <tgm4883> sojaus: yes, you could put it in /opt if you want. I was trying to save you some trouble
[19:42] <jilocasin0> sojaus: I can't comment on uTox specifically, but I am going to assume that it's one big static executable.  you can move it to /opt or /opt/uTox,
[19:42] <mrgray> he guys
[19:42] <Startrek852> Hello, I have a question. When \I ssh into a server normally, I get no lag, but I get this really weird terminal. If I try to change the terminal using TERM=screen, I get the normal terminal but excruciating lag. Can anyone help?
[19:42] <mrgray> what up
[19:42] <user12> k11: So after i dd, is that all I have to do?  so then i just remove the usb, and reboot with it?
[19:42] <jilocasin0> sojaus: Just make sure it's set as executable and the users have permission to run it.
[19:43] <Jordan_U> Startrek852: Wierd in what way? What OS is on the server? What terminal emulator are you using on the client?
[19:43] <Egyptian[Web]> nacc what would the version string for the kernel be??  <IP_ADDRESS>-generic   or <IP_ADDRESS>? noting that when i run uname -r i get <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[19:43] <we_are_one> It is just his path var has been modified from default completely. That's why I asked to pastebin the output from /etc/environments.
[19:43] <Egyptian[Web]> plus <IP_ADDRESS> withoth "generic" fails with the same error
[19:44] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: it's not ther version string for the kernel, it's the version string for the pacakge
[19:44] <deep> nacc , we_are_one , tgm4883  : http://pastebin.com/vn8AkLgh
[19:44] <Jordan_U> we_are_one: Understood, and "cat" is still much more appropriate for that than "vi".
[19:44] <nacc> sigh
[19:45] <nacc> deep i believe you have typo'd your .bashrc
[19:45] <nacc> deep: which, if you had just provided your .bashrc when first asked, would have been the fastest answer
[19:45] <SEMEN_DAD> I used to have a
[19:45] <nacc> deep: export PATH=$PATH:$HADOOP_PREFIX/bin:$HADOOP_PREFIX/sbin
[19:45] <SEMEN_DAD> boyfriend named "Ubuntu" once
[19:45] <deep> one more problem i  am facing is my screen / terminal / brwoser there is significant latency since past few days
[19:45] <nacc> deep: no space aroudn the =
[19:45] <SEMEN_DAD> he would "play the bongos" on my ass
[19:45] <SEMEN_DAD> I used to have a
[19:45] <SEMEN_DAD> boyfriend named "Ubuntu" once
[19:45] <SEMEN_DAD> he would "play the bongos" on my ass
[19:45] <SEMEN_DAD> I used to have a
[19:46] <nacc> Jordan_U: thanks
[19:46] <jilocasin0> nacc: apparently it's 'linux-signed-generic'
[19:46] <nacc> jilocasin0: ah, could be, if using secure boot
[19:46] <nacc> jilocasin0: or that could just be the new default, not sure
[19:47] <deep> ya the actual file has no spaces   this is because i had to type it coz of issue with slow response in screen \
[19:47] <we_are_one> Jordan_U, are these bans removed or not later ?
[19:47] <jilocasin0> nacc: insecure but EFFI skylake
[19:47] <Startrek852> Jordan_U: Ubuntu 14.04.4, Konsole, and weird as in it shows this: https://postimg.org/image/cymaaf9ld/ at the bottom of the terminal and instead of showing the normal :~$ prompt, it shows :~⟫.
[19:47] <deep> not sure wy but ts quite slow and wierd , nacc
[19:47] <user12> k11: Thank you so much!!! it worked!!!
[19:48] <Jordan_U> we_are_one: You should join #ubuntu-ops and ask for your ban to be removed (rather than trying to evade it...).
[19:48] <tgm4883> deep: can you post the output of 'cat ~/.bashrc | nc termbin.com 9999'
[19:48] <we_are_one> Jordan_U, no I'm not banned . Btw there is a problem in it
[19:49] <we_are_one> IP can be dhcp allocated so ...
[19:50] <we_are_one> others may face trouble
[19:50] <sojaus> how do I see if Tor is running? I am trying to setup utox to use it and it says Step One is verify its running. I found this command ps -elf | grep tor but I don't understand the long output
[19:50] <sojaus> is there a simple way to see if its running?
[19:50] <nacc> deep: does your issue go away if you `mv .bashrc .bashrc.bak` and then relogin (or start a new shell)
[19:50] <deep> tgm4883, :http://pastebin.com/wR24zbpr
[19:51] <jilocasin0> sojaus: ps -elf | grep tor  if you see anything other than grep tor you're running it.
[19:51] <deep> if i move bash file i wud have to create a new one right ? nacc
[19:51] <tgm4883> deep: fair enough
[19:52] <jilocasin0> sojaus:usually I would use  ps aux | grep -i tor
[19:52] <deep> tgm4883, nacc btw i read this post http://askubuntu.com/questions/133389/no-such-file-or-directory-but-the-file-exists
[19:52] <deep> not sure how relevant is this to me
[19:52] <ax562> question, why is the software app in ubuntu almost worthless
[19:52] <ax562> it works less than half the time
[19:52] <tgm4883> deep: completely irrelevant
[19:52] <deep> tgm4883, any idea what wrng ?
[19:52] <sojaus> https://0bin.net/paste/SWNVDDLcoQKAlPrC#V8yfd04SSmfXHJTj-FNowvYsYegYTpi7G4QgUDuN/tz so all this means its running?
[19:52] <deep> ok
[19:52] <ax562> is there something I can do?
[19:52] <jilocasin0> sojaus: ps lists the processes running, grep filters it for the presence of the string tor.
[19:53] <ax562> running 16.04lts 64bit
[19:53] <jilocasin0> ax552: install something better ;)
[19:53] <ax562> like what?
[19:53] <Starky> sojaus: "/usr/bin/tor --defaults-torrc /usr/share/tor/tor-service-defaults-torrc -f /etc/tor/torrc --RunAsDaemon 0"
[19:53] <nacc> ax562: "the software app" means nothing.
[19:53] <Starky> yes it does
[19:53] <tgm4883> deep: can you run this "export PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin"
[19:53] <ax562> Software 3.20.1
[19:53] <ax562> specific enough?
[19:54] <jilocasin0> ax552: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[19:54] <nacc> no, wth is "Software"?
[19:54] <sojaus> Starky: I don't understand the file path you posted. Do I need to look in there for something?
[19:54] <Starky> It's what you put in the paste bin
[19:54] <jilocasin0> nacc: I think he's rerrering to the new default gui package manager in ubuntu.
[19:54] <ax562> synaptic a gui program?
[19:54] <jilocasin0> ax552: yep.
[19:54] <ax562> jilocasin0
[19:54] <nacc> jilocasin0: ah
[19:55] <ax562> jilocasin0 do you get the same problem?
[19:55] <Starky> sojaus: You don't need to understand anything in there, except that there is a process called "/usr/bin/tor" (aka Tor) running
[19:55] <deep> tgm4883,   ok can u tell me when do we use /etc/environment and qwhere  ~/.bashrc
[19:55] <deep> as both hav env variables
[19:55] <ax562> I've installed on 3 different machines and it's always the same...works...doesn't work...works..doesn't
[19:55] <sojaus> Starky: i am not understanding why you quoted that portion...does that "runsasdaemon ) part mean its running ?
[19:55] <tgm4883> deep: lets just work on fixing your PATH first?
[19:55] <sojaus> ah ok
[19:56] <jilocasin0> ax552: no, it's just way too watered down for my taste.  I typically use apt-get from teh command line, but it's nice to see what's out there in a gui sometimes
[19:56] <sojaus> sorry
[19:56] <ax562> It hangs up literely on every task
[19:56] <sojaus> so if it was not running what would the output for that be?
[19:56] <sojaus> "not running" or "not found" etc?
[19:56] <Starky> sojaus: No, "the fact that the whole line appears" means that is running
[19:56] <ax562> yeah, apt-get is great but sometimes I don't know the exact name of packages
[19:56] <deep> tgm4883,  am asking coz its present in my /etc/environment
[19:56] <Starky> "runasdaemon" is jsut an argument for Tor, "RunAsDaemon 0" means it's not running as a daemon/service.
[19:57] <tgm4883> deep: or if you prefer can you post the output of '/bin/cat ~/.bashrc | /bin/nc termbin.com 9999'
[19:57] <jilocasin0> sojaus: if it wasn't running, you wouldn't see it in the output (it only shows currently _running_ processes).  Running as a daemon just means it's running in the background.
[19:57] <ax562> can I run for example "apt-get install deluge*" and will that install all packacges with similar starting name?
[19:57] <deep> tgm4883, post running that what shld i do
[19:57] <deep> ?
[19:57] <Starky> For example, I'm gonan use Cygwin here and make an output of mine
[19:57] <tgm4883> deep: running which command, I gave you two
[19:58] <sojaus> jilocasin0: I didnt explicitly start it so does that mean it runs by default? I looked in startup settings and its not there
[19:58] <Starky> but Cygwin's 'ps' is more or less similar
[19:58] <deep> http://termbin.com/f9je
[19:58] <deep> this is what i get from 2nd command
[19:58] <jilocasin0> ax562: no to run apt-get install you need to know the name of the package.  There might be one called deluge or not, that command would install all that start with deludge
[19:58] <tgm4883> nacc: ^
[19:58] <deep> tgm4883, Output = http://termbin.com/f9je
[19:59] <ax562> what would be the ramifications if I did?
[19:59] <jilocasin0> ax562: apt-cache search <string> would list all of the packages in your repos that contain the string and the name you would need to enter into apt-get install to install it
[19:59] <ax562> obviously I would install extra packages that might not be needed, but would that be a serious problem
[19:59] <nicomachus> ax562: why not just use apt-cache-search?
[20:00] <ax562> ah ok
[20:00] <ax562> didn't know that existed
[20:00] <ax562> thank you!
[20:00] <nicomachus> ax562: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Search_commands
[20:01] <nacc> deep: why dod you have PATH=y
[20:01] <tgm4883> deep: out of curiosity, what if you do this command now 'cat ~/.bashrc | nc termbin.com 9999'
[20:01] <jilocasin0> ax562: try this:  'sudo apt-get update'  followed by 'apt-cache search synaptic'  (minus the quotes of course)
[20:01] <Starky> sojaus: Try `initctl list`, maybe `grep` it with tor, if it appears there, then it means it's autostarted and it has been installed somehow
[20:01] <Starky> You could also try `service --status-all` as well
[20:01] <deep> tgm4883,  what this site btw -http://termbin.com/f9je ??
[20:02] <tgm4883> deep: a pastebin
[20:02] <tgm4883> deep: it's showing the contents of that file
[20:02] <Starky> And `systemctl list-unit-files --type=service` maybe too
[20:02] <sojaus> Starky: its not in that list
[20:02] <ax562> that brought back a huge list of packages jilocasin0
[20:02] <deep> nacc, bash: y:/home/hduser1/hadoop-2.7.1/bin:/home/hduser1/hadoop-2.7.1/sbin: No such file or directory
[20:03] <jilocasin0> ax562: if you look down near the bottom of the list you should have seen: 'synaptic - Graphical package manager'
[20:03] <Starky> Try the other too, it's gonna depends if it uses Upstart, System V or SystemD
[20:03] <Starky> others*
[20:03] <deep> tgm4883,  i was not able to open it and gt some msg like this - Your requested URL has been blocked as per the directions received from Department of Telecommunications, Government of India. Please contact administrator for more information.
[20:03] <deep> not sure why ??
[20:03] <ax562> oh I remembet synaptic
[20:03] <ax562> that's old school
[20:03] <ax562> :p
[20:03] <jilocasin0> ax562: that tells you that it's in one of your repos and to install it you would need to type: 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'
[20:03] <tgm4883> deep: weird
[20:04] <ax562> yeah I installed already
[20:04] <Starky> sojaus: IF it doesn't appear anywhere, most probably the installer of uTox installed it and executed it
[20:04] <ax562> my real problem stems from trying to install deluge
[20:04] <ax562> I install it but it never works
[20:05] <jilocasin0> ax562: there might have also been a line like this: 'muon - package manager for KDE'  which would be the KDE equivalent.
[20:05] <ax562> is this a 64bit 16.04lts bug?
[20:05] <pavlushka> nazmul: it worked :)
[20:05] <setuid> I'm trying to clone a system's packages into a preseed file, but the only place I can find to add packages, is the 'tasksel tasksel/first' struct. Is there no way to inject a --get-selections style file into the preseed process?
[20:05] <sojaus> Starky: I knew I had it installed as I have the Tor Browser installed...but I dont know how to run Tor beyond opening the TBB...I dont see any settings or anything for Tor as a service
[20:06] <setuid> sojaus, torbb handles it all for you
[20:06] <deep> nacc,  any idea
[20:06] <setuid> sojaus, get the other package, and configure each service manually if you need to
[20:06] <Starky> You can install tor, `sudo apt install tor` or try to compile it yourself
[20:06] <jilocasin0> ax562: according to my apt-cache it's a bittorrent client written in python.  so 'sudo apt-get install deluge' should install it.
[20:06] <ax562> yeah install is not the problem
[20:06] <ax562> it working is the problem
[20:06] <tgm4883> deep: found it
[20:07] <sojaus> starky its installed
[20:07] <nacc> deep: so your .bashrc file has something like PATH=y in it. Why does it have that line?
[20:07] <deep> tgm4883, ?
[20:07] <sojaus> i just dont see any way to manage its settings ...
[20:07] <TomyThEGreyHat> CONNECT <AccessIRC>
[20:07] <tgm4883> deep: ok, can you edit your .bashrc file again
[20:07] <setuid> sojaus, you don't, you're using torbb
[20:07] <setuid> so don't use torbb
[20:07] <ax562> it works on 16.04lts 32bit
[20:07] <Starky> I'm lost on the conversation so I don't know exactly what "Tor" you installed.
[20:08] <j4f-shredder> dsa
[20:08] <deep> I am again getting error on opeinig bashrc
[20:08] <deep> The command could not be located because '/usr/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[20:08] <Starky> Which method, you used to install Tor?
[20:08] <deep> sudo: command not found
[20:08] <deep> deepesh@deepesh-desktop:
[20:08] <tgm4883> deep: what do you use to edit it?
[20:08] <tgm4883> deep: vi? nano?
[20:08] <deep> tgm4883, nacc
[20:08] <nacc> !paste | deep: even if it's annoying,
[20:08] <deep> nano
[20:08] <sojaus> set TBB is not open...I am trying to set up uTox to use tor and tor is apparently running....
[20:08] <tgm4883> deep: ok, one sec
[20:09] <jilocasin0> ax562: that's alot of packages for a bittorrent client.
[20:09] <deep> nacc,  ok got it will paste it from next time
[20:09] <sojaus> is there no gui or way to see tor settings or if its a startup thing? or it only activates when an app requests it?
[20:09] <Starky> So, you are using the "tor" from "Tor Browser Bundle", right? Or you also did "sudo apt-get install tor"?
[20:10] <Starky> Unless someone made one, nope. Tor, as any other Linux service, is mostly configured manually
[20:10] <tgm4883> deep: do '/usr/bin/sudo /bin/nano ~/.bashrc'
[20:11] <mutante> where "gui" doesnt mean "not manual"
[20:11] <Bassem> got that error again how to fix The system is running in low-graphics mode
[20:11] <tgm4883> deep: find the line that says "PATH=y"
[20:12] <tgm4883> deep: delete the "y" character, then make sure that the line below it is on the same line. Eg. the line should look like this PATH="$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH"
[20:13] <mutante> sojaus: re: "GUI to see tor settings" you pick any GUI text editor and check /etc/tor/rrrc
[20:13] <nacc> deep: tgm4883's instructions are right; but you still haven't answered the question of why you made that change? :) (PATH=y)
[20:13] <mutante> sojaus: sorry, /etc/tor/torrc
[20:13] <tgm4883> nacc: I believe it was a typo
[20:13] <deep> tgm4883, /usr/bin/sudo /bin/nano ~/.bashrc' didnt worked
[20:13] <tgm4883> nacc: in adding the line below it
[20:13] <sojaus> mutante: thanks
[20:13] <nacc> tgm4883: ah!
[20:13] <tgm4883> deep: what do you mean it didn't work
[20:13] <Egyptian[Web]> nacc:  you said " it's not ther version string for the kernel, it's the version string for the pacakge " as i am coming from the rhel world. i do not understand you .. could you expand pls?
[20:14] <deep> tgm4883, getting error :bash: bin/sudo: No such file or directory
[20:14] <tgm4883> deep: then you typo'd it
[20:14] <jilocasin0> ax562: well the deluge page does say that the repo version is probably way out of date.  Have you tried installing form the ppa as per the instructions here: http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Installing/Linux/Ubuntu
[20:14] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: just like in RH, there are kernel versions (e.g., 4.4.0, 4.6.4, 2.6.8-rc1) and there are package versions (<IP_ADDRESS>.33, <IP_ADDRESS>.25, etc)
[20:14] <deep> no
[20:15] <nacc> deep: tgm4883 said to run '/usr/bin/sudo ...'
[20:15] <tgm4883> deep: because that error doesn't make any sense when the the command was /usr/bin/sudo
[20:15] <nacc> deep: you said it said bin/sudo ....
[20:15] <Egyptian[Web]> nacc agreed but the version is on the package name too
[20:15] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: i don't know what you mean.
[20:15] <Egyptian[Web]> how do i get the version for a package that i want to install ?
[20:16] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: just because the version strings are *similar* does not make them identical
[20:16] <Bassem> got that error again how to fix The system is running in low-graphics mode
[20:16] <deep> nacc,  tgm4883 ..Ok Thanks
[20:16] <deep> but why i have to give this whole path everytime
[20:16] <nacc> deep: becuase you typo'd your PATH!
[20:16] <nacc> deep: and so the shell doesn't konw where anything is to be found
[20:16] <tgm4883> deep: because you fubar's your .bashrc
[20:16] <deep> nacc,  i am not sure  where i have given this  y in my path
[20:16] <tgm4883> deep: that's what we're in the process of fixing
[20:17] <nacc> deep: in the future, i would suggest not making these changes if you don't do them *exactly* as provided in whatever guide you were reading. No guide would have told you put "PATH=y" in your .bashrc, it's a probable typ.
[20:17] <Jordan_U> deep: We aren't sure either, but the only person/thing that could have done it is you.
[20:18] <deep> nacc,  as i told earlier am facing some latency issue in my screen ,, asin when i open file it doesnot shows all content at one go
[20:18] <deep> it takes time
[20:18] <deep> and i have to reopen it several time s
[20:18] <deep> that wud have created the problem
[20:19] <tgm4883> deep: yea probably
[20:24] <Startrek852> Jordan_U: Hello?
[20:24] <Bassem> got that error again how to fix The system is running in low-graphics mode
[20:24] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: for a package you want to install? you'd see what's availble with `apt-cache policy <pkgname>`
[20:24] <deep> tgm4883, nacc where should the JAVA_HOME_PATH be set
[20:24] <deep> /etc/evironment or bashrc ?
[20:26] <nacc> deep: typically taht would be in your own .bashrc if you want to only have it set for your user, or in /etc/bash.bashrc if meant for all users (but that would only affect those that use bash
[20:26] <deep> nacc, ok i found that typo and commented it
[20:27] <deep> but when trying to do source ~/.bashrc
[20:27] <deep> again getting th errr
[20:27] <Jordan_U> Startrek852: That's byobu acting as it's intended to.
[20:27] <Jordan_U> Startrek852: Someone configured that server to start byobu automatically upon logging in (at least for that user).
[20:28] <Jordan_U> Startrek852: http://byobu.co/
[20:28] <nacc> deep: which error do you get?
[20:29] <datafile4> hi
[20:29] <tgm4883> deep: after fixing the error, you'll need to logout and back in
[20:29] <deep> nacc, http://pastebin.com/KAKjEsj6
[20:29] <deep> tgm4883, ok
[20:30] <deep> tgm4883, u mean exit terminal right ?
[20:30] <tgm4883> yea
[20:30] <deep> tgm4883, great it worked
[20:30] <tgm4883> huzzah
[20:31] <deep> now i need to see why my screen is responding so so slow
[20:31] <deep> any idea
[20:31] <Jordan_U> deep: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[20:33] <deep> Jordan_U,  pastebint ..whats that for ?
[20:33] <cb_> hi
[20:34] <Jordan_U> deep: The command I gave will upload the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://paste.ubuntu.com and output a link to the paste for you to share to us.
[20:35] <deep> Ok Jordan_U but its not doing that
[20:35] <deep> doing error
[20:35] <nacc> Jordan_U: not sure deep  means actual screen or if they mean remote termimal
[20:36] <nazmul> my wifi adapter( TP-link: model:TL-WN727N) is not working at all. i typed "lsusb" in terminal, then the adapter showing as "Ralink MT7601U"..so, that means the adapter is okay and the driver is not installed. i searched in google and collect some drivers and commands but that's not working.there is some github link of the driver in askubuntu.com but the links are not valid now.they are like from 2014/2012. Please
[20:36] <deep> nacc,  i mean my actual screen - browser/ terminal etc
[20:36] <deep> and not remote
[20:39] <Egyptian[Web]> https://thepb.in/p/DRhjLgGLgoWfy <- nacc even with the "correct" version number its not working
[20:40] <Egyptian[Web]> https://thepb.in/p/X6hBPprPww6h3 <- apt-cache output
[20:41] <nacc> deep: ok, then what Jordan_U suggested
[20:41] <deep> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19410441/
[20:41] <deep> nacc,  ok Thanks !
[20:41] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: that's becuase the version you found was for linux-image-3.13.0-88-generic
[20:41] <Grorco> GRR
[20:42] <Bashing-om> deep: " Ok Jordan_U but its not doing that " // Is the pastebinit tool installed ? ' sudo apt install pastebinit ' .
[20:42] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: i think you want to pin the 'linux-image-generic' package, fwiw
[20:42] <user12> so while trying to install Ubuntu, it raised error 5, and recommended burning the usb at a slower speed.  Would Setting the BS parameter on 'dd' to a low number fix this issue?
[20:43] <Grorco> how do I virtually do something in IRC?
[20:43] <dax> user12: no. and that advice only makes sense for CDs, not USBs
[20:43] <Startrek852> Jordan_U: Thanks. That's explains the weird terminal, but what about the horrid lag when changing the terminal type?
[20:43] <Startrek852> *That
[20:43] <user12> dax: so how would i fix error 5 booting from a USB?\
[20:46] <iDompa> Anyone there?
[20:46] <jatt> Grorco: virtually?
[20:47] <iDompa> What is the best IRC for Ubuntu?
[20:47] <mutante> iDompa: Freenode
[20:47]  * Grorco kills NickServ with an axe for being a butt
[20:47] <Grorco> jatt, I found it and feel a little better :)
[20:48] <Startrek852> mutante: I think he means IRC client.
[20:48] <jim> iDompa, and, on freenode: There is a bot, alis, that can assist you in looking for channels on the Freenode irc net. To start, /msg alis help
[20:48] <Grorco> NickServ wont let me log in so I can join the python channel
[20:48] <pavlushka> nazmul: give us the "lsusb -v -d vendor_id:product_id" by pasting the result in paste.ubuntu.com and post the paste link here, please
[20:48] <user12> dax: so how would i fix error 5 booting from a USB?
[20:48] <iDompa> I use Hermes on Android
[20:48] <jim> Grorco, you are logged in
[20:49] <paul_> Sapete se il LAMP della versione 16.04 puo' essere messo online senza ulteriore configurazione per attività di produzione? Grazie
[20:49] <Fuchs> no, he isn't
[20:49] <Fuchs> Grorco: what error do you get?
[20:49] <Bassem> got that error The system is running in low-graphics mode
[20:49] <jim> oh, sorry, wrong window :)
[20:49] <Starky> iDompa: I recommend HexChat as a GUI client and weechat as an CLI client
[20:49] <Grorco> Fuchs, invalid command
[20:50] <Fuchs> Grorco: and what command did you try?
[20:50] <Fuchs> (it's  IDENTIFY you are looking for)
[20:50] <paul_> hello
[20:50] <Pici> !it | paul_
[20:50] <Grorco> Fuchs, /msg NickServ username password
[20:50] <Fuchs> Grorco: lacks IDENTIFY
[20:50] <iDompa> Starky - HexChat looks good and included with a lot of distros
[20:51] <Fuchs> Grorco: /msg nickserv identify optionalusername password
[20:51] <paul_> ubottu: su #ubuntu-it non c'è nessuno
[20:51] <paul_> qualcuno parla italiano?
[20:52]  * Grorco apologizes to NickServ and carefully places his head back upon his sholders
[20:52] <Fuchs> paul_: e in questo canale gente non può fare en italiano, si deve parlare inglese.
[20:52] <Starky> iDompa: I'm using weechat right now (I even had to use Cygwin so I could run it on Windows)
[20:52] <Fuchs> ah well
[20:52] <Starky> iDompa: I would not recommend it for CLIphobics though :P
[20:53] <jim> -now- you're logged in...
[20:53] <Fuchs> Grorco: as a minor sidenote, I recommend setting up SASL to auto-identify instead of manually logging in every time
[20:53] <Grorco> Fuchs, thanks
[20:53] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[20:54] <ax562> jilocasin0 installed deluge
[20:54] <ax562> but needed extra package deluged
[20:54] <ax562> which I believe is the daemon used for deluge
[20:54] <Egyptian[Web]> nacc the pastebin out put shows for linux-image ... linux-image-generic does not exist
[20:55] <we_are_one> io posso parlare
[20:55] <iDompa> Starky I use CLI all the time
[20:58] <Tameiki> Hello, it is possible to "calibrate" my laptop battery ? On my Ubuntu+Openbox installation, the battery % don't go upper than 86% and my laptop still have charge at 0%.
[20:58] <deep> Jordan_U, any idea from that pastebin i shared
[20:58] <Jordan_U> deep: No, sorry.
[20:59] <deep>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/19410441/
[20:59] <deep> oh ok
[20:59] <deep> np Thanks !
[21:00] <nazmul> I am using Zorin OS 11. my wifi adapter( TP-link: model:TL-WN727N) is not working at all. i typed "lsusb" in terminal, then the adapter showing as "Ralink MT7601U"..so, that means the adapter is okay and the driver is not installed. i searched in google and collect some drivers and commands but that's not working.there is some github link of the driver in askubuntu.com but the links are not valid now.they are like from 2014/2012. Please
[21:01] <DJones> !zorin | nazmul
[21:01] <dax> nazmul: ask the Zorin OS folks. #ubuntu only handles Ubuntu and its official flavors
[21:01] <nazmul> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19391559/
[21:02] <we_are_one> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[21:02] <we_are_one> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[21:02] <we_are_one> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[21:02] <we_are_one> oooooooooooooooooooooooohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[21:02] <Tameiki> :/
[21:07] <Startrek852> Jordan_U: Any idea about the horrid lag when changing the terminal type?
[21:13] <Tipping_Fedora> I need some help with 14.04
[21:14] <Tipping_Fedora> it seems I am having a display issue
[21:14] <Tipping_Fedora> it's a fresh install, and after a short time it "breaks"
[21:15] <Tipping_Fedora> the symptoms are a "glitchy" screen and a complete freeze of the system
[21:18] <minimec> Tipping_Fedora: So you cannot switch to a console anymore to check the sys.log and Xorg.0.log files when in 'freeze' state?
[21:18] <Tipping_Fedora> correct
[21:19] <Tipping_Fedora> its seems stablish now, so please let me check those files
[21:19] <Tipping_Fedora> whats those files's locations?
[21:19] <Bassem> no one can help me?
[21:20] <minimec> Tipping_Fedora: What if you tried to login via ssh and 'cat' the sys.log file from an other computer, until you get the freeze?
[21:20] <Bassem> got that error The system is running in low-graphics mode
[21:20] <Tipping_Fedora> thats what I'm doing now
[21:20] <minimec> Tipping_Fedora: ;)
[21:21] <Bashing-om> Bassem: What did you do to break graphic's ?
[21:22] <minimec> Tipping_Fedora: files are in /var/log
[21:24] <Tipping_Fedora> anything to look for specific?
[21:24] <Bassem> Bashing-om: nothing last command i did for the num lock and i turn off my pc normally when i turn it on again i get this message
[21:25] <minimec> Tipping_Fedora: Well I guess the syslog file. I see no Xorg.0.log file in /var/log with 16.04, but 'locate' gave me one in $HOME/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log. That is new...
[21:25] <Tipping_Fedora> I have 14.04 atm
[21:26] <Bashing-om> Bassem: // humm .. Maybe go back and revert the change you made to the num-lock script ???
[21:27] <Bassem> Bashing-om: how?
[21:27] <Bashing-om> Bassem: No idea .. what change did you make ?
[21:28] <Bassem> Bashing-om: nothing i told you i show you the command before i do it
[21:28] <Bassem> Bashing-om: i have access to termina how can i check my graphic
[21:29] <Bashing-om> Bassem: K. I have a short attention span .. show me again the command that you executed .
[21:29] <Bashing-om> Bassem: ' sudo lshw -C display ' might be of use here .
[21:30] <Bassem> Bashing-om: sudo sh -c 'printf "[Seat:*]\ngreeter-setup-script=numlockx on\n" >/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-numlock.conf'
[21:31] <Bassem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19416540
[21:31] <minimec> Tipping_Fedora: I also have one in /var/lib/gdm3/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log. I am using gnome3 with gdm. So you might find one in /var/lib/lightdm/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log . Strange locations...
[21:31] <Tipping_Fedora> no, when it freeze3s, ssh stops
[21:31] <Bashing-om> Bassem: Let's then see that file ' cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-numlock.con ' . see if it has a bearing on this .
[21:31] <Bassem> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19416540
[21:32] <Bashing-om> Bassem: "  configuration: driver=nvidia " says the nvidia driver is loaded .
[21:32] <acovrig> can I (in theory) install MAAS to machine 1, then net-install MAAS to machine 2 and use machine 2 as the region controller?
[21:33] <Bassem> Bashing-om: so who do i get that error
[21:34] <ltelmo> Good evening, Does anyone know if it is safe to upgrade to gnoem 3.20 via the staging ppa on 16.04 ubuntu-gnome?
[21:34] <Bashing-om> Bassem: We can look ar the display error log .. see what might be happening ; ' cat .xsession-errors ' .
[21:35] <minimec> Tipping_Fedora: Did not se the '14.04 message'. So on 14.04 the Xorg.0.log file is still in /var/log. Older files have names like Xorg.0.log.old or Xorg.1.log. You should be able to check them even after reboot.
[21:35] <Bassem> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19417091
[21:36] <minimec> Tipping_Fedora: In your case there might also be something in 'kern.log'.
[21:38] <minimec> Bassem: Hi. In your case it seems like the xserver cannot understand that 50-numlock.conf fiel and starts in low graphics mode. If you remove that file or 'hide' it, the system will probably boot normally.
[21:39] <Bassem> minimec: i did the cat command says no such file
[21:39] <minimec> Bassem: what command?
[21:39] <Bassem> cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-numlock.con
[21:40] <minimec> Bassem: Oh I see.... There's an 'f' missing probably... 'cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-numlock.conf'
[21:40] <minimec> Bassem: 'conf' not 'con'
[21:40] <Bassem> minimec: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19417716
[21:41] <RobertJordan> trying to use unpack200 on some .pack files, but unpack200 doesnt seem to exist in the directory they're in. is there a way to do it from a higher directory?
[21:42] <minimec> Bassem: 'sudo apt-get install numlockx' Is numlockx installed?
[21:42] <Bassem> minimec: i dont think so
[21:42] <minimec> Bassem: Install it ... ;)
[21:43] <ZenMasta> is it possible to use wget to download a file from a shortened url and have it save the file using the name that would have been prompted had you opened the url in a browser?
[21:43] <ZenMasta> for example if I wget tinyurl.com/something   the file would be downloaded with filename "something"
[21:44] <Tipping_Fedora> minimec: any other Ideas? or could you perhaps look at pastebins of my logs?
[21:44] <Bassem> minimec: thanks alot i install and restart that fix the problem
[21:44] <minimec> Bassem: No problem ;)
[21:44] <Bassem> Bashing-om should have told me to install it when i ask him about the command
[21:45] <Bassem> thanks alllllot
[21:45] <Bassem> minimec: i was that close to hate using ubuntu
[21:45] <minimec> Tipping_Fedora: I see n pastes... I can have a look at them but I am not the 'log reading master' ;) Give me Xorg.0.log first and the older one, if you have some.
[21:46] <Tipping_Fedora> ok
[21:46] <Tipping_Fedora> well
[21:46] <Bashing-om> !cookie | minimec
[21:46] <Tipping_Fedora> it just crashed, aka froze
[21:46] <Tipping_Fedora> so please give me a sec
[21:46] <tatertots> ok
[21:46] <tatertots> now i don't feel so alone https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1585111
[21:46] <Bassem> minimec, ok now i'm n from ubuntu do you know how can i mount cue files
[21:47] <minimec> Bassem: There's a learning curve with linux, but afterwards you don't want to go back to your old system (win...) ;)
[21:47] <Bassem> minimec, im trying
[21:47] <tatertots> glad it wasn't just me..was slowly getting grey hairs
[21:47] <minimec> Bashing-om: Mille gratie ... ;)
[21:48] <tatertots> even without the bug i doubt many sysadmins will be enthusiastic about having ubuntu/debian in their enterprise active directory shops
[21:49] <Tipping_Fedora> minimec: xorg   http://pastebin.com/bwECBdHj
[21:49] <chrissie> I run a small business with 15 employees, with Windows we are swamped in licence fees and instability. Is Ubuntu appropriate for desktop enterprise?  Tasks are limited to word processing (real estate agency)
[21:49] <minimec> Bassem: http://www.networkinghowtos.com/howto/mounting-bin-cue-files-on-linux/
[21:50] <Tipping_Fedora> minimec: Xorg.old     http://pastebin.com/EGcYsRNp
[21:50] <maza_> hi
[21:50] <chrissie> Workstations are Lenovo g50-45s
[21:50] <Tipping_Fedora> chrissie: I would say ubutnu, or mint linux
[21:50] <Tipping_Fedora> Ubuntu*
[21:50] <tgm4883> chrissie: only word processing? Any advanced excel usage?
[21:51] <chrissie> Excel for just basic spreadsheeting.  We'll be running a small database too.
[21:52] <tgm4883> chrissie: sharing docs outside the company? is that database compatible with linux?
[21:52] <Bassem> minimec, it says i can't directly mount it but i have to convert it first
[21:52] <minimec> Bassem: As discribed in the link...
[21:53] <Bassem> minimec, yes thats what the link says i have to convert it first into iso
[21:53] <chrissie> No a database of clients, their fees and notes on their rental records.  The database should be accessed remotely because staff may need to when with clients
[21:54] <chrissie> The entire system needs encryption too
[21:54] <minimec> Bassem: Is that some music CD image? In that case I think you can open the .cue file directly in the music player.
[21:54] <tgm4883> chrissie: so for the first part I'd say you should be fine. I don't know enough about your use case for the database portion.
[21:54] <minimec> Tipping_Fedora: The Xorg log files seem ok.
[21:55] <tgm4883> chrissie: you're inching towards the area where I'd recommend a local consultant
[21:55] <Tipping_Fedora> ehh
[21:55] <Bassem> minimec, it's not music cd
[21:55] <Tipping_Fedora> minimec: should I also grab syslog?
[21:55] <minimec> Tipping_Fedora: Yep.
[21:56] <chrissie> Ok, that was most likely on the cards anyway.  I can say with 80% certainty that we'll adopt Ubuntu
[21:56] <chrissie> Just has to work...
[21:59] <minimec> Bassem: There seems to be an app called 'furiusisomount', that should be able to mount the .bin file that goes with the .cue file directly. So... 'sudo apt-get install furiusisomount'.
[22:00] <red_hax0r> REAL changes that need to be done after installing Ubuntu 16.04 LTS: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByxYYIjWkNdAM09aaEJuTl9uLVU/view?usp=sharing
[22:00] <Tipping_Fedora> minimec: syslog is coming
[22:01] <Bassem> minimec, is it this one https://launchpad.net/furiusisomount?
[22:01] <red_hax0r> I noticed a lot of the quirks are simple system configuration issues
[22:02] <minimec> Bassem: I guess so, but don't add any ppa... It's in the normal repo... http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/furiusisomount
[22:03] <minimec> Bassem: I never used it and don't know how to use it... ;)
[22:03] <Tipping_Fedora> anyone know of a pastebin that allows a 3MB cap on files?
[22:03] <Bassem> do you know how can i download youtube videos?
[22:04] <red_hax0r> youtube-dl command line program
[22:04] <minimec> Tipping_Fedora: I see the problem. Do you have a filehoster like dropbox? You could share the link with me.
[22:04] <Tipping_Fedora> i got g drive
[22:04] <Tipping_Fedora> 1 sec
[22:04] <red_hax0r> I'd recommend the one from the website since it supports updates
[22:04] <red_hax0r> it's just a script
[22:05] <minimec> Tipping_Fedora: You can /msg me the link if you want...
[22:05] <Tipping_Fedora> k
[22:06] <minimec> Tipping_Fedora: Got it, thx
[22:08] <red_hax0r> sudo update-initramfs -u
[22:08] <red_hax0r> whops
[22:08] <red_hax0r> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByxYYIjWkNdAM09aaEJuTl9uLVU/view?usp=sharing
[22:08] <darjusit> Hi all I am new to ubuntu, but I notices in web pages in forms inputs text is very bright hard to see
[22:08] <darjusit> is any fix for this
[22:09] <ouroumov> Hello. Is it possible when setting up a shared connection (Network Connections -> Add -> type "Shared to other computers" to specify the desired network? Like if I don't want <IP_ADDRESS>/16 but <IP_ADDRESS>/16 or <IP_ADDRESS>/16 ? I've just had a nasty surprise of conflicting nets between my Ubuntu Touch phone's hotspot and a shared connection by cable to another puter.
[22:10] <red_hax0r> would be easy to find the answer if it was manual config maybe, but I don't know the Touch
[22:10] <tatertots> omg i think i found another bug...try to avoid the winbind+samba but and use realmd+sssd and sssd has problems also....this shit won't see the light of day in an enterprise environment
[22:10] <ouroumov> red_hax0r, I don't need to change the Phone's net, only the desktop net (though it'd be nice if there was an option for the phone too)
[22:11] <tatertots> i can't believe nobody's really said much about it on any blogs/reddit ect...guess most just are using debian/ubuntu in peer to peer network typologies
[22:12] <tatertots> with these type issues that's where it's going to remain
[22:12] <tatertots> sadly
[22:12] <red_hax0r> I'd know more about it if I wasn't stuck using WiFi from other people's networks all the time
[22:13] <tgm4883> tatertots: not sure what you're talking about, can you link your bug report?
[22:14] <TheNH813> question, why does Ubuntu 16.04 run so horrible on my pavilion g6 laptop?
[22:14] <red_hax0r> don't wann sound dumb, but what kind of network
[22:14] <red_hax0r> ??
[22:14] <tgm4883> TheNH813: you need to add more RAM
[22:14] <TheNH813> 4g isn;t enough/
[22:14] <tgm4883> TheNH813: Well you didn't provide any details, so I just assumed you wanted us to guess
[22:15] <red_hax0r> hp sucks even though some are certified
[22:15] <TheNH813> Hmmm will look into that. personally i blame the apu graphics drivers not loading
[22:15] <leo_> hi
[22:15] <tgm4883> TheNH813: I mean, what does "run so horrible" even mean? Is it slow? Graphics colors all messed up? Does it run super hot? Make a clanky sound?
[22:15] <TheNH813> super slow
[22:16] <TheNH813> like negative infinity fps at the desktop. ;p
[22:16] <tgm4883> TheNH813: Slow doing what? Booting? Opening gedit? Loading webpages?
[22:16] <TheNH813> graphics run badly.
[22:16] <TheNH813> oddly enough, it works fine on the livedvd, but runs bad once installed.
[22:16] <TheNH813> md5 of the iso is good btw.
[22:17] <TheNH813> Ah finally. That faulty shift key was bugging me. XD
[22:18] <tgm4883> TheNH813: yea sounds like the driver isn't working right
[22:19] <TheNH813> Maybe I need the proprietary one
[22:19] <TheNH813> Or to force VESA
[22:19] <tgm4883> what graphics chip
[22:19] <TheNH813> Lemme check
[22:20] <TheNH813> Radeon HD 7520G
[22:20] <TheNH813> To be honest though, It was running nuking hot until I redid the thermal paste. Now the fan no longer screams, so that's a plus.
[22:22] <tgm4883> TheNH813: I thnk that's just covered by the radeon driver
[22:23] <TheNH813> Mkay, I'l have to look for errors then when I boot into Ubuntu.
[22:24] <diverdude> hello, i need to install chroot on a ubuntu 14.04 machine which is disconnected from the internet. What would be the easiest way to go about that?
[22:25] <tgm4883> !offline | diverdude
[22:25] <red_hax0r> use the LiveDVD for chroot, it works great that way
[22:26] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: please don't PM, what don't you understand?
[22:26] <diverdude> red_hax0r: LiveDVD? I cannot access the machine physically...its locked into an extremely tight network where i have to go via weird terminal servers and stuff and upload any package via a special set up sftp
[22:26] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: also, if you don't understand package versioning, you *absolutely* should not decide you don't need to keep your kernel updated.
[22:27] <red_hax0r> when you're in chroot use bind for dev, proc, sys
[22:27] <diverdude> red_hax0r: ok, what does that mean?
[22:28] <nacc> diverdude: why do you need chroot?
[22:28] <IonutVan_> somebody interested in bonus 20$?  http://www.vultr.com/?ref=6915857-3B
[22:29] <diverdude> nacc: because i need to allow another user access to a system...but he cannot browse around in the system
[22:29] <red_hax0r> I'll find a page to describe it in a moment, but it's because the LiveDVD uses the file system of the system you're trying to recover, but the hardware of the working operating system ("binding")
[22:29] <diverdude> nacc: ie should not be able to
[22:29] <nacc> red_hax0r: that's not what "bind" mounting is.
[22:29] <Egyptian[Web]> nacc: thanks for your help - confusing but still helpful at the very least i am much further ahead than where i was previously. as to what you suggest, business decisions override all others in this perfect world
[22:30] <Mishari> Salam 3lekom.
[22:30] <Mishari> Good morning.
[22:30] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: your business wants to be insecure?
[22:30] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: you also didn't answer any questions earlier about what exactly you were doing
[22:30] <Mishari> I got manjaro linux besides ubuntu, I use wine in manjaro worked perfectly in windows games, but in ubuntu that doesn't work completely.
[22:30] <Mishari> any clue ? please help and thanks.
[22:31] <red_hax0r> look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[22:31] <red_hax0r> under Update Failure
[22:32] <IonutVan_> sorry for link guys, wrong channel
[22:33] <red_hax0r> the bind is necessarily about hardware, but in this case it is
[22:33] <tengelic> Pidgin is good.
[22:33] <red_hax0r> if you want to play semantics work for a virus company and tell everyone that uses linux software is really carrying viruses :)
[22:34] <tgm4883> 0_0
[22:34] <nacc> red_hax0r: bind mounts have literally nothing to do with hardware. They are a software construct to remount part of the fs somewhere else.
[22:34] <red_hax0r> *sys* *dev* *proc*
[22:36] <nacc> diverdude: you will probably have to download the pacakge (the link tgm4883 sent via ubottu or from launchpad) for the version you wanted, sftp it the way you do other things?
[22:36] <Egyptian[Web]> what am i doing? i have an internal app that requires a very specific version of the kernel
[22:36] <tgm4883> Egyptian[Web]: what app?
[22:36] <tgm4883> oh, an internal app
[22:37] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: does the server in question end up on the internet/have a public IP?
[22:37] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: if so, i would seriously ask you not to pin th ekernel
[22:37] <tatertots> tgm4883 in case you were just joining us https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1585111
[22:37] <sveinse> On 16.04 server, and if you don't need mdadm, how can you disable it? (mdadm is one of the required packages by the ubuntu-server meta package, which I'd like to have installed)
[22:37] <Egyptian[Web]> nacc:  of course not duh!
[22:37] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: how in the world would I know that?
[22:38] <Egyptian[Web]> .. is that relevant?
[22:39] <red_hax0r> I always wanted to try pside or pyqt, but they look bad on Unity for some reason, bon't blend in
[22:39] <red_hax0r> wrong channel.....
[22:39] <tgm4883> Egyptian[Web]: wait, you're just trying to pin the kernel version for an internal server?
[22:41] <tatertots> not really a big deal though if you're in a peer to peer LAN topology
[22:43] <Egyptian[Web]> tgm4883:  yes
[22:43] <tgm4883> tatertots: depends on what/how you want to share resources, but I would agree that it's probably less used that it could be
[22:43] <tatertots> likewise/Beyond Trust - PowerBroker Identity Services Open Edition is not in good shape right now either
[22:44] <tgm4883> Egyptian[Web]: so what's the hang up? I'm just joining
[22:44] <tatertots> neither is cetrify
[22:45] <Mishari> eeeeeeh
[22:45] <tatertots> over the last couple days i've tested samba+winbind AND realmd+sssd and it's not looking good either way
[22:45] <Mishari> warni warni
[22:45] <Mishari> ;x
[22:45] <IKnowNothing> Hi
[22:45] <Mishari> hello amigo de argentina.
[22:46] <red_hax0r> hi
[22:46] <IKnowNothing> ¿Como supiste? No entiendo nada. Soy un newfag en esto
[22:48] <red_hax0r> that's an inteteresting word for newbie whatever
[22:48] <tgm4883> Yea, that's not necessary
[22:48] <red_hax0r> who's been that new so long that the don't know the new word whatever it is these days?
[22:51] <nacc> tatertots: have you tried getting extra verbose output (-d 5 iirc) to `net` ?
[22:51] <ouroumov> !es | IKnowNothing
[22:51] <IKnowNothing> Thanks
[22:52] <red_hax0r> He utilizado Google y se copia pegada
[22:52] <red_hax0r> LOL
[22:52] <octacian> My friends computer boots to initramfs ash shell. This was hapenning about a week ago and I reformatted the HDD and reinstalled Ubuntu. Now again. What should I do to avoid this?
[22:53] <red_hax0r> do you have kernel? (sounds like a dumb question)
[22:54] <octacian> What do u mean red_hax0r?
[22:54] <abbbee> how to access remote from ubuntu mate 16.04 to windows ?
[22:55] <octacian> abbbee: Google RPD
[22:55] <red_hax0r> you might have initramfs, but no kerenel
[22:55] <octacian> abbbee: Google "RPD"
[22:55] <nacc> !google | octacian
[22:55] <red_hax0r> check this out octavian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[22:56] <red_hax0r> octacian (all yellow) I mean
[22:57] <octacian> nacc: IK. RDP is best Googled though. I doubt he new about RDP.
[22:58] <octacian> I haven't used it in a long time...
[22:59] <tgm4883> octacian: then you shouldn't be helping users on it
[22:59] <YankDownUnder> There are quite a number of "Remote Desktop Protocol" applications for linux; it's a matter of settling on one that is the most comfortable. Many opt for "Google Remote Desktop" - but there are some very nice options for whatever linux desktop you're using.
[23:00] <octacian> Also, I have this thing with Firefox where every site I visited, was then later visited by a bot. Also, data is sent to Amazon servers whenever Firefox is open (IP of Destination: <IP_ADDRESS>). And the IP changes quite often. Any ideas/suggestions?
[23:00] <red_hax0r> Google does stuff similar to that
[23:01] <tgm4883> octacian: logs showing this happening?
[23:01] <octacian> tgm4883: I was just giving the name of the service that I thought must useful for such a need.
[23:01] <YankDownUnder> Use the browser in "private mode" - or, you can install "Privacy Badger" - which is OSS/EFF developed...
[23:01] <octacian> Anyways, the bot went under the name of Embed.ly
[23:03] <octacian> tgm4883: I'm using wireshark to monitor the network. I discovered this when accessing the website of a friend who always monitors his logs, and found that whenever I visited the site I was followed by a bot. I find that interesting, because how is the bot getting the URL? What other info is it leaking?
[23:04] <octacian> If he might be missing the kernal, then what do I need to to with the liveCD to get it back? GRUB?
[23:04] <k1l> octacian: that is slightly out of the scope of this channel
[23:04] <octacian> which is?
[23:04] <k1l> octacian: missing the kernel?
[23:05] <k1l> octacian: chroot into the install, then install "linux-generic" package
[23:05] <octacian> My friend's computer boots to the initramfs ash shell.
[23:05] <octacian> Everytime.
[23:05] <k1l> look at the logs what is happening.
[23:06] <ouroumov> Hello. Is it possible when setting up a shared connection (Network Connections -> Add -> type "Shared to other computers" to specify the desired network? Like if I don't want <IP_ADDRESS>/24 but <IP_ADDRESS>/24 or <IP_ADDRESS>/16 ? I've just had a nasty surprise of conflicting nets between my Ubuntu Touch phone's hotspot and a shared connection by cable to another computer.
[23:06] <octacian> k1l: logs? Firefox? I'm already monitoring logs. Not Firefoxes actually logs. I should. Thanks for the idea.
[23:07] <k1l> you are mixing things here
[23:07] <octacian> I know. I probably am.
[23:07] <octacian> Are we talking about the firefox issue I mentioned, or initramfs? lol
[23:07] <k1l> you umped from "the bots are chasing me"  and firefox talk to some missing kernels on some others machines and back.
[23:07] <octacian> I mentioned both around the same time... sorry.....
[23:08] <tatertots> well i guess i better find another ubuntu pet project to tinker with....winbind+samba and realmd+sssd has been fun the last few days...earned a few grey hairs but i guess that's part of the fun
[23:08] <nacc> tatertots: did you file bugs, etc.?
[23:08] <k1l> put the firefox talk to some firefox channel. they know best what scripts firefox can run and might be able to help you there. that is not ubuntu specific.
[23:08] <octacian> I'll focus on the one for now. My friend's computer boots to initramfs with the ash shell. Won't actually boot up.
[23:10] <k1l> was the system fine before? what did he do then?
[23:11] <octacian> Only a week ago he was having the same issue. Reformated the HDD and reinstalled Ubuntu. Was fine until this morning. He opened GIMP which gave an error about swap space. I told him to do the normal thing, restart your computer. Then instead of rebooting, we get the ash shell. And something about initramfs
[23:13] <YankDownUnder> octacian: Is is safe to ask if this person has removed any USB storage devices prior to the reboot? Sometimes a USB mass storage device will cause BIOS or GRUB to get slightly confused...just asking.
[23:14] <octacian> YankDownUnder: he had a mouse plugged in. Laptop. That's all.
[23:14] <nacc> ouroumov: well, i think that functionality (which i can't find in my 16.04 system, tbh), is just wrapping dnsmasq (or maybe iptables). Both of which probably can be configured to do what you ask. I assume you mean you only want your connection to be shared to some connected subnet (and not all)?
[23:15] <YankDownUnder> octacian: "Mass Storage"...either which, you should get him to check the BIOS boot order, then if all else fails, run the process for rescue.
[23:16] <octacian> OK. BIOS boot order. HDD should be first?
[23:17] <YankDownUnder> octacian: Try that FIRST...if that does not work, then use the rescue liveUSB or CD/DVD...but yeah.
[23:17] <octacian> YankDownUnder: computer froze at "Toshiba" boot screen. Will try again.
[23:17] <nacc> this sounds like unstable hardware
[23:17] <suadkf> Hi I need help installing Ubuntu server. It wont' recognize my wireless usb adapter
[23:17] <nacc> if it's freezing at BIOS level?
[23:18] <YankDownUnder> octacian: Toshiba. Right. Power the machine down for at least 15 seconds. When a Toshiba hangs at the POST, there's usually a REAL issue.
[23:18] <suadkf> It recognizes it when I install desktop ubuntu/lubuntu/cubos or any other desktop linux
[23:18] <suadkf> but the server says something about dchp
[23:18] <octacian> Toshibas always have real issues.......
[23:18] <suadkf> nybody got a solution?
[23:18] <nacc> suadkf: you probably need to install wireless-related pacakges. I doubt server comes with them by default
[23:19] <suadkf> yes so how
[23:19] <suadkf> https://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WN725N-Wireless-Adapter-150Mbps/dp/B008IFXQFU/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1468538320&sr=8-4&keywords=wireless+usb+adapter
[23:19] <suadkf> that's my adapter
[23:19] <ouroumov> nacc, basically I had the following problem: My laptop was sharing connection to another machine connected by cable on the <IP_ADDRESS>/24 subnet but my phone's hotspot used <IP_ADDRESS>/24 too, so when the cable was plugged in connection was dropping very fast because of the conflict
[23:19] <Egyptian[Web]> https://thepb.in/p/48hY2LW9AoztR tgm4883
[23:19] <octacian> YankDownUnderL turned it off for about 15 seconds. Still stuck.
[23:20] <octacian> * YankDownUnder:
[23:20] <ouroumov> nacc, I wanted to achieve Phone -> Laptop -> Other machine
[23:20] <suadkf> anyone :(
[23:21] <YankDownUnder> octacian: Unplug the power supply. Remove the battery. Let that sit for about 30 seconds. Replace the battery, then plug in the AC. Boot the machine. See if it hangs at the POST again, please.
[23:22] <nacc> suadkf: does the interface show up (`ifconfig -a`) ?
[23:22] <tgm4883> Egyptian[Web]: yea, that's a virtual package
[23:22] <suadkf> sec
[23:22] <tgm4883> Egyptian[Web]: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[23:22] <Bassem> i have an old game run through playonlinux but it need 720*576 resolution but my screen is 1920*1080 so when i run it start but keep on loading screen and can't quite it when i try alt+tap i see small part of desktop and can't quite or select andy thing else
[23:23] <suadkf> where would I enter that in?
[23:23] <suadkf> how do i get to the console
[23:23] <octacian> YankDownUnder: looks like we are still stuck. Gonna try again. Won't worry about trying to get to SETUP yet.
[23:23] <nacc> suadkf: at a terminal prompt?
[23:23] <nacc> suadkf: do you have a console?
[23:24] <suadkf> no i'm still trying to install it
[23:24] <suadkf> should i install it first then worry about netowrking?
[23:24] <suadkf> networking*
[23:25] <nacc> suadkf: yes?
[23:25] <suadkf> oh sorry
[23:25] <nacc> suadkf: i don't know, that's up to you
[23:25] <suadkf> i'll install first
[23:25] <suadkf> one sec
[23:25] <YankDownUnder> octacian: You might want to go through the BIOS and just double-check all the settings - sometimes in doing so, you "wake up" the HDD..."sometimes". Had one recently like that...unfortunately, it was the HDD and was lucky enough to "wake it up" long enough to back it up before replacing the drive.
[23:25] <sojaus> where are startup apps listed? /etc/init is where a search led me but it's not right
[23:26] <k1l> sojaus: ubuntu uses systemd since 15.04.
[23:26] <k1l> !systemd | sojaus
[23:27] <octacian> YankDownUnder: we are definitely stuck on the first boot screen, where it says "Toshiba \n Leading Innovation"
[23:27] <sojaus> kll so should they bein /etc/systemd ?
[23:27] <YankDownUnder> octacian: Well, read my last message.
[23:27] <k1l> sojaus: its quite complex. better have a read of that wiki page if you are really interessted
[23:28] <Egyptian[Web]> tgm4883:   14 lts
[23:28] <sojaus> I was just looking for a dirctory somewher that listed all startup apps...not that simple?
[23:28] <k1l> no
[23:28] <tgm4883> Egyptian[Web]: can you pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[23:28] <sojaus> thanks
[23:29] <Egyptian[Web]> https://thepb.in/p/y8h6P9WmKgNUO the output shows rc for the kernel i want coz i manually tested it was available
[23:29] <octacian> YankDownUnder: what good does that do me? I'm stuck before I can get to BIOS. I press F2, but nothing. Frozen.
[23:30] <tgm4883> Egyptian[Web]: ok, so "apt install linux-image-3.13.0-88-generic"
[23:30] <YankDownUnder> octacian: I shan't say that "Google is your friend" as that is redundant. As soon as you power the machine one, hit "ESC" and "F2" repeatedly...
[23:31] <k1l> octacian: are you sure that is not a hardware issue?
[23:31] <Egyptian[Web]> tgm4883: yup that works but not the command i pasted (it was generated via ansible)
[23:32] <octacian> YankDownUnder: nothing yet. Will try again. k1l: I don't know. It might be.
[23:32] <tgm4883> Egyptian[Web]: well that seems to be the wrong package anyway I think
[23:33] <tgm4883> Egyptian[Web]: wouldn't  you want "linux-image-generic"
[23:33] <Mishari> Ssssssugar craaaashhhhh
[23:34] <Egyptian[Web]> i do not see the version i need for linux-image-generic
[23:34] <octacian> YankDownUnder: it seems pretty stuck.  My friend was talking about doing that a while ago. Not for that purpose, but, we should be able to manage it.
[23:36] <tgm4883> Egyptian[Web]: setting aside why it's not working with the link provided by ansible, why don't you just tell ansible to install "linux-image-3.13.0-88-generic"
[23:36]  * tgm4883 isn't super famaliar with ansible
[23:36] <Egyptian[Web]> didnt work either :(
[23:36] <tgm4883> Egyptian[Web]: well that sounds like an ansible issue then, you already said you could install the package via apt
[23:37] <Egyptian[Web]> i have tried many many combinations of the name .. and version
[23:37] <nacc> suadkf: for now, yes
[23:37] <Egyptian[Web]> dont think so  .. coz i took the ansible generated command and stuck it into the command line and it failed in the same manner
[23:37] <tgm4883> Egyptian[Web]: there shouldn't be any variations of the name, it's linux-image-3.13.0-88-generic
[23:37] <suadkf> ok it's done :)
[23:37] <suadkf> so i type in   ifconfig -a right
[23:37] <YankDownUnder> octacian: If you're savvy enough to do that, what you can do as this - remove the BIOS/CMOS battery. Remove the HDD. Boot the machine withOUT the BIOS/CMOS battery - force it into BIOS setup. Save the BIOS setup. Power off. Replace the HDD. Do the same. That might wake it up. If it were here in my place, I have a "cradle" that I use for removing HDD's from laptops and I mount them as externals...saves time and money...
[23:38] <nacc> suadkf: yes, and pastebin the output
[23:38] <Egyptian[Web]> not found .. also nacc said earlier that is not the version number
[23:38] <pennTeller> Hi guys, can anybody shed any light on how to setup different domains for email on ubuntu server 12.04?
[23:38] <suadkf> k one moment please
[23:38] <nacc> Egyptian[Web]: yes, it's not hte version number, it's the pacakge *name*,
[23:38] <tgm4883> Egyptian[Web]: Don't specify the version number. The package name is "linux-image-3.13.0-88-generic"
[23:40] <suadkf> how do i get it to pastebin?
[23:40] <octacian> YandDownUnder: BIOS/CMOS battery sits with RAM. Guess it's simple on this model.
[23:40] <octacian> Now to find find out whether we have a replacement...
[23:40] <Egyptian[Web]> tgm4883: !! <speechless>>
[23:41] <nacc> !paste | suadkf, c&p ? or
[23:41] <tgm4883> Egyptian[Web]: so that works now?
[23:42] <Egyptian[Web]> yes its installed. tunnel vision bah!
[23:42] <Egyptian[Web]> tgm4883: thank you very much for your help
[23:43] <tgm4883> Egyptian[Web]: ok, well that's installed now. Have you already done the pinning so it won't update?
[23:45] <Egyptian[Web]> https://thepb.in/p/zmh8YJBWJPyFZ i will be putting this into /etc/apt/preferences
[23:46] <tgm4883> Egyptian[Web]: yea I think that looks right
[23:48] <Egyptian[Web]> tgm4883: umm.. after the hassle i went through with the version number? i got to check that but tomorrow ;) .. again thank you very much for the help
[23:48] <tgm4883> yw
[23:49] <suadkf> sorrry
[23:49] <suadkf> it recognizes my card now and I ran iwlist scan and it found my network
[23:49] <suadkf> i just don't know how to connect to it
[23:49] <suadkf> :(
[23:50] <k1l> suadkf: use wpa suplicant
[23:50] <suadkf> hah
[23:50] <suadkf> got it to work! http://askubuntu.com/questions/464507/ubuntu-14-04-server-wifi-wpa2-personal
[23:50] <suadkf> thanks lads!