[07:04] <crdlb> if you haven't filed a bug, you really shouldn't complain
[07:04] <ranjithk> hello.. i have a strange problem, mouse cursor moves by itself, do you have any idea ?
[07:04] <ranjithk> hello.. i have a strange problem, mouse cursor moves by itself, do you have any idea ?
[07:05] <deftone> not with compix they're not crdlb
[07:05] <b33r> russ, in ccsm --> General Settings --> Desktop size --> horizontal virtual size set it to 4
[07:05] <deftone> *compiz
[07:05] <webman> think_linux: the file you sent when you did "set > /tmp/out" was that with or without sudo ?
[07:05] <Hawkz0r> b33r, manually changing refresh rates around didn't help
[07:05] <kgod> ranjithk: What sort of system?  Laptop or desktop?
[07:05] <tuxedocurly> Hello again, Im still confused about this. How do i send a msg to another user on the same network as me using the command terminal?
[07:05] <think_linux> webman : i forgot!
[07:05] <redfish> basically you have no use for this cube except to stare in delight?
[07:05] <kgod> tuxedocurly: I told you already.
[07:05] <garuhhh> am using intrepid ibex, and can't resume from suspend/hibernate.. any info regarding this?
[07:05] <tuxedocurly> kgod: yes, but i do not understand
[07:05] <think_linux> webman : do u want me to do it again?
[07:06] <webman> think_linux: just do this as normal user: echo $HTTP_PROXY $http_proxy
[07:06] <tuxedocurly> kgod: how do i use samba? what exactly is it?
[07:06] <trupheenix> i'm getting errors while compiling the Ubuntu kernel
[07:06] <trupheenix> where am i going wrong?
[07:06] <kgod> ranjithk: Please don't   pm me.
[07:06] <paul68> Hi is there a way  to configure IPTABLES in such a way that it is allowing only outoing trafic when IP and mac are matching eachother?
[07:06] <ranjithk> kgod: i have a laptop, connected to docking station, so it is normal mouse [connected to docking station. not using touchpad of laptop]
[07:06] <b33r> russ_, for better understanding of compiz configs read this guide http://compengi.homelinux.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=21
[07:07] <khelll> how to set up dual screens in ubuntu ?
[07:07] <b33r> Hawkz0r, sorry that it didn't work for you :/
[07:07] <kgod> tuxedocurly: It's a client-server protocol compatible with Microsoft CIFS / SMB, which includes file/print, AD, and, as you'd like, a messaging service.
[07:07] <crdlb> deftone: I have yet to see a report of this before now
[07:07] <toastedmilk> Is there any way to save code from the python editor in terminal on ubuntu?
[07:07] <think_linux> webman : cant find the dollar sign lol
[07:07] <ranjithk> kgod: any solution?
[07:07] <garuhhh> khell: what's your video card?
[07:07] <kgod> tuxedocurly: You need the client side of it, I think.  I'm digging through Google to find the specifics.  Since this is  your problem you doing the research might be more appropriate.
[07:07] <think_linux> webman : got it lol
[07:07] <kgod> ranjithk: OK, so hand drifting over the touchpad isn't it.
[07:08] <tuxedocurly> kgod: i realize that, sorry, buti AM googling it, and i havent found anything but descriptions and commands, but ill keep looking
[07:08] <kgod> ranjithk: Any sort of pointer stick?  Are the onboard (laptop) mouse inputs disabled when you're in the dock?
[07:08] <ranjithk> kgod: touchpad has nothing to do with this.
[07:08] <kgod> tuxedocurly: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=samba+popup+message+windows+clients&btnG=Search
[07:08] <tuxedocurly> kgod: but i DO appreciate your help greatly, mate!
[07:08] <toastedmilk> kgod: If I run the python editor from terminal, is there a command to save the code I've written?
[07:08] <think_linux> webman : tarek@tarek-laptop:/tmp$ echo $HTTP_PROXY $http_proxy
[07:08] <think_linux> http://localhost:4001 http://localhost:4001
[07:08] <Onlooker828> Hi, running intrepid and all is well until I updated. Then sound won't work.  If I end pulse-audio as a process the sound returns until reboot. If i uninstall pulse-audio it wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[07:08] <kgod> toastedmilk: echo "Message text" | smbclient -M <PCNAME>
[07:08] <kgod> toastedmilk: http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=109447626+1225782367857+28353475&threadId=1060997
[07:08] <deftone> crdlb: are u kidding me? let me get you some links buddy...then you can see what a mess it is
[07:09] <tuxedocurly> kgod:thanks ill take a look and get back to you in a while
[07:09] <webman> think_linux is that from a xterm in the gui, or from the console ?
[07:09] <paul68> Hi is there a way  to configure IPTABLES in such a way that it is allowing only outoing trafic when IP and mac are matching eachother?
[07:09] <kgod> toastedmilk: You'll need the smbclient package, should be installed by default.  man smbclient for details. You'll need to know the remote PC name (WINS name).
[07:09] <ranjithk> kgod: another observation: when I do Alt+Tab the cursor moves left / right depending on the window position
[07:09] <think_linux> webman : from terminal
[07:10] <patrick-1> hey all, im trying to build an md Raid array but it keeps telling me that the 2nd Partition im trying to add to the array is not large enough, even though its same size as the first.. any idea?
[07:10] <kgod> ranjithk: Otherwise:  possibly bad contacts on the dock or your system, oversensitive mouse, etc.  I suspect a HW fault here.
[07:10] <toastedmilk> kgod: If I run the python editor from terminal, is there a command to save the code I've written?
[07:10] <patrick-1>  http://pastebin.ca/1244639
[07:10] <toastedmilk> kgod: what about windows?
[07:10] <webman> think_linux: press CTRL-ALT-F1 and then login as your user, and repeat the last command
[07:10] <shad0w0fsin> so no one else getting slow boot times in intrepid?
[07:10] <ValentineXX> in ubuntu how to convert .ogv videos to another format? easy and fast method please
[07:10] <webman> think_linux: let me know if it is the same output or different
[07:10] <kgod> toastedmilk: There's an equivalent command on Windows, I have no idea what it is.
[07:10] <arooni-mobile> i'm looking for a multi page .tif reader for ubuntu hardy.  ideas?
[07:10] <kgod> toastedmilk: It's been years.
[07:10] <dr_willis> shad0w0fsin,  not really.
[07:10] <webman> think_linux: to get back press ALT-F6 or ALT-F7
[07:11] <kgod> toastedmilk: Your editor will   have some sort of 'save' or 'write' command.    Forget it, haha.  I'll just use text editor.
[07:11] <kgod> toastedmilk: You'll need to either make the script executable (the shebang line +  chmod +x <file>), to invoke it directly, *or* run an interpreter over it (eg:  python <file)
[07:11] <b33r> russ_, welcome gtg bye
[07:12] <paul68>  can somebody help me with an IPTABLES question
[07:12] <kgod> toastedmilk: On the 'Doze side it may be one of the NET commands.
[07:12] <toastedmilk> kgod: I don't have DOS
[07:13] <kgod> toastedmilk: you've got Windows, no?
[07:13] <ValentineXX> i want to convert ubuntu movie recorder video .ogv to something else
[07:13] <toastedmilk> kgod: hardy heron, fully
[07:13] <Hawkz0r> b33r, turning off subpixel font smoothing fixes the problem entirely (though the fonts are fugly). maybe I found a bug here?
[07:13] <deftone> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/289287    there you go crdlb........look that mess...
[07:14] <kgod> toastedmilk: Um, wrong nick WRT the smbclient stuff, nevermind.
[07:14] <kgod> tuxedocurly: ^^
[07:14] <kgod> tuxedocurly: Did you get all that?
[07:14] <deftone> russ did u get it to work?
[07:15] <hsn> guys my bluetooth drivers dont work.. what should i do
[07:15] <toastedmilk> kgod: figured.  xD  any way to save code written from 'python' in terminal on 8.04?
[07:15] <hsn> i mean bluetooth adapter*
[07:15] <arooni-mobile> i'm looking for a multi page .tif reader for ubuntu hardy.  ideas?
[07:15] <arooni-mobile> oops
[07:15] <toastedmilk> kgod: or just use gedit?
[07:15] <Onlooker828> sound system help please? pulse-audio keeping the sound from working. If I kill it, sound works, if I uninstall it want to uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[07:15] <kgod> toastedmilk: You can write scripts using  ANY EDITOR WHICH WILL SAVE PLAIN ASCII TEXT.
[07:16] <tuxedocurly> kgod: were you trying to ask me something? i was searching in google like you suggested, haha
[07:16] <kgod> toastedmilk: nano, ae, joe, jove, vi, nvi, vim, emacs, xemacs, viper, gedit, notepad, wordstar, wordperfect, amipro, MS Word, whatever.
[07:16] <toastedmilk> kgod: I know that much, I was just wondering if I could do it in terminal as well, to save time
[07:16] <kgod> toastedmilk: So long as you save plain ascii text.
[07:16] <think_linux> webman: i was stuk in black screen lol
[07:16] <paul68> Need some help with IPTABLES can someone help me out please
[07:16] <hsn> my bluetooth adapter doesnt work ppl... what should i do?
[07:17] <dr_willis> toastedmilk,  moving scripts from windows/editors to linux. may cause issues. :)  i would stick with 'geany' as a good text editor under both os's
[07:17] <thansen> what's up with nvidia 96.x series drivers not working in 8.10?
[07:17] <think_linux> webman: haha i dont what happened i turned off my computer...and back on...now everyuthing works perfecttly
[07:17] <think_linux> webman: haha
[07:17] <kgod> toastedmilk: Yes, you can.  But you'll need to learn a console editor.  Try vimtutor if you want a quick-start to vim.  There's an internal tutor for emacs as well.
[07:17] <toastedmilk> dr_willis: I don't have windows
[07:17] <kgod> dr_willis: Run 'em under wine ;-)
[07:17] <think_linux> webman: crazyyyy......thanks a lot brooo
[07:17] <dr_willis> toastedmilk,  python can rununder windows as well.. You may want to run some of your python stuff there as well.. eventually
[07:17] <webman> think_linux: well, that is good news !
[07:18] <think_linux> webman: rellly apreciate all the helppp
[07:18] <crdlb> thansen: nvidia finally released a beta, which can be found in intrepid-proposed
[07:18] <tuxedocurly> alright then? im out to do research brb
[07:18] <toastedmilk> kgod: thanks!
[07:18] <think_linux> webman: are u some kind of ubuntu freak geek??
[07:18] <webman> think_linux: something somewhere set the variable ..... very strange anyway... good luck :)
[07:18] <kgod> dr_willis: if Mafjus ever shows up again, point him at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=477503
[07:18] <toastedmilk> dr_willis: If I get a copy I suppose.  For support issues?
[07:18] <kgod> toastedmilk: NP
[07:18] <thansen> crdlb: where do I find intrepid-proposed?
[07:18] <kgod> dr_willis: I'm not sure how much longer I'm good for.
[07:18] <think_linux> webman: yeah prob!!! thanks againnnn!!
[07:18] <crdlb> thansen: system > admin > software sources
[07:19] <webman> think_linux: hehehe, nope, but i have been using linux for more than  10 yrs....
[07:19] <think_linux> webman: how did u learn all this debuggin stuff???
[07:19] <kgod> dr_willis: The NFS bug looks like a port restriction bug posisbly affecting his server.  Or client.
[07:19] <dr_willis> kgod,  send him a memo with memoserv :)
[07:19] <kgod> dr_willis: Point.
[07:19] <think_linux> webman: yeah i could tell
[07:19] <thansen> crdlb: got it, I'll give it a whirl
[07:19] <kgod> send Mafjus
[07:19] <think_linux> webman: i was like man what is this doing to my computer lool
[07:19] <webman> think_linux: as I needed it.... google is great :)
[07:20] <Pinky>   /w 24
[07:20] <paul68> dr_willis: can you help me out with this IPTABLE question? is there a way to configure IPTABLES that it only allows outgoing trafic if the ip and mac adress match or is this impossible
[07:20] <think_linux> webman: i bet so.....anyway....good job...keep up the work....take it easyyyy...!!!!!later bro
[07:20] <webman> think_linux: btw, if anyone tells you to run something you don't know you should check with man command ie, "man strace"
[07:20] <kgod> dr_willis: unregistered user.
[07:20] <kgod> :(
[07:20] <dr_willis> paul68,  i know very little about iptables.. ive rarely needed t o use it.
[07:20] <gtk> Hi, anybody who can help me out in Gtk stuff??
[07:21] <think_linux> webman: for manual??i'll do!
[07:21] <paul68> dr_willis: ok no problem you know anyone here who could help me out?
[07:21] <webman> yep for manual
[07:21] <think_linux> webman: allright got u...! see u later man
[07:21] <crdlb> deftone: that didn't highlight me, and 'glxinfo segfaults' isn't really possible to debug without further investigation
[07:21] <gasull> Hi.  I have this line in a script
[07:22] <gasull> export PYTHON_EGG_CACHE="/tmp/"
[07:22] <kgod> paul68: That sounds like a pretty reasonable goal. I'm with dr_willis though:  I don't mess w/ iptables directly myself, and would recommend using a front-end (eg: shorewall or similar) if you're going to mess with it.
[07:22] <dr_willis> !ufw
[07:22] <gasull> but the command i call afterwords in the script has another value for the variable PYTHON_EGG_CACHE
[07:22] <dr_willis> theres a gui to UFW out also
[07:22] <flaccid> hello, i would like to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 manually using the alternate cd and not the script contained on the alternate cd as i have a lot of custom packages installed. how can i do this eg. via setting up the iso as a repos ?
[07:23] <gasull> does anybody know why?
[07:23] <kgod> gasull: You can't set a value *in* a script and have it be inherited by the parent.
[07:24] <kgod> gasull: Environment inheritence is parent>child ONLY.
[07:24] <kgod> gasull: If you're trying to set a value dynamically, use a shell function instead.
[07:24] <gasull> I want it inherited by the child
[07:24] <deftone> crdlb: then why is it that I installed Hardy and the problem isn't present at all? I can use compiz and all full settings without a hitch.   It should remember the variable, right?
[07:25] <kgod> gasull: Yes, it should.
[07:25] <octavius> okay guys... i've been out of everything thats going on since august...... on the wiki i see some DO NOT UPDATE thiing.... whats going on?
[07:25] <regeya> shucks, deftone, on my machine, I even dist-upgraded, and had very very few issues...but to be fair, I was calling hardy crap when I first installed it, yet many people loved it...
[07:25] <paul68> kgod:  I voluntary obliged myself to change my network and put my server after my isp modem and then you have to play with IPTABLES or others to make this work
[07:25] <gasull> kgod: I'm calling sudo -u reddit paster serve --reload example.ini port=8080
[07:25] <octavius> if i update, can run my homebrew soft?
[07:25] <Aeosynth> How do I get the gnome-panel to stay dead? I'm on Ibex and I can't do it through session preferences anymore.
[07:25] <kgod> gasull: Check for typos.  I usually debug this sort of thing with 'echo' statements sprinkled through the script.
[07:26] <regeya> octavius: url?
[07:26] <octavius> i was in the middle of programming my app
[07:26] <gasull> kgod: is it relating with using sudo, maybe?
[07:26] <kgod> octavius: That depends on whether or not you wrote your homebrew well.
[07:26] <octavius> there ya go
[07:26] <kgod> gasull: Sorry, context?
[07:26] <octavius> maybe thats it!
[07:26] <octavius> haha
[07:26] <octavius> i'm gonna look over it
[07:27] <regeya> whee
[07:27] <kgod> octavius: Generally this is the sort of thing you have to test aafter upgrade.  If you're sticking to vanilla and standard features, you should be pretty good.
[07:27]  * regeya deploys badly-written homebrew on production machines like all the time
[07:27] <gasull> kgod: I'm calling    sudo -u reddit paster serve --reload example.ini port=8080   after defining the variable.  Does sudo get in the way for the variable to be exported?
[07:27] <regeya> way easier to debug when stuff hits the fan :->
[07:28] <tuxedocurly> Still havent found anything for sending windows popups =\
[07:28] <kgod> gasull: Is the variable supposed to be available in the sudo environment, or outside, after it?
[07:29] <kgod> tuxedocurly: I gave you the command.
[07:29] <arooni-mobile> i'm looking for a multi page .tif reader for ubuntu hardy.  ideas?
[07:29] <kgod> tuxedocurly: smbclient -M
[07:29] <Aeosynth> How do I stop the gnome-panel from restarting once I kill it? I'm using 8.10 and can't do it through Session Preferences anymore.
[07:29] <sparr> "The VPN connecton [name] failed because there were no valid VPN secrets." <--  im trying to connect to a "normal" windows-friendly pptp(?) vpn.  help?
[07:29] <kgod> tuxedocurly: You're starting to disappoint me
[07:29] <gasull> kgod: in the sudo environment
[07:29] <tuxedocurly> kgod: i did not come for ur judgment, firnd. i came for help
[07:29] <webman> wow, 8.10 could not complete an install when re-using my reiserfs FS.... even after rm -rf everything except /home
[07:29] <kgod> sparr: Point your entropy pool to some hollywood scandal sheets.
[07:29] <flaccid> i guess nobody here knows about upgrades dang
[07:30] <gasull> kgod: it should be used by the command paster I'm calling
[07:30] <kgod> sparr: ... you should get some secrets that weya.
[07:30] <sparr> kgod: funny
[07:30] <binspace> Is it me, or does the keyboard repeat rate not go as high in 8.10?
[07:30] <kgod> tuxedocurly: You got it.  Have a nice day.
[07:30] <tuxedocurly> kgod: thanks mate. and chill.
[07:30] <kgod> binspace: It's configurable.  kbdrate and/or gnome/kde environment.
[07:31] <webman> oh well, at least it seems to be working with a format of the HDD to ext3 ....
[07:31] <economyx> anyone have experience with skype audio issues?
[07:31] <binspace> kgod: I try to change it by using the command `kbdrate -r 30`
[07:31] <binspace> kgod: there is no difference
[07:32] <nosorog> Is compiz working out of the box in 8.10 on intel GMA 950?
[07:32] <kgod> binspace: Dunno then.
[07:32] <binspace> `sudo kbdrate -r 30` == `sudo kbdrate -r 1` ??
[07:32] <binspace> kgod: thanks
[07:32] <kgod> binspace: NP
[07:32] <economyx> i'm having issues with pulseaudio and skype
[07:33] <deftone> lol...nosorog: i just made a point about that earlier...no it does not work on 8.10
[07:33] <l_a_m> hi
[07:33] <l_a_m> i ve got a pb with new Intrepid
[07:33] <deftone> use hardy if u want compiz full effects
[07:33] <l_a_m> Error activating XKB configuration.
[07:33] <l_a_m> someone have this error
[07:34] <ariemidedition> hi all,can i install ubuntu mid on my o2 pdaphone?
[07:34] <gasull> Can you export a variable in a script to a command run with sudo?
[07:34] <nosorog> But why? New X.Org?
[07:35] <deftone> yep...the xorg conflicts with the x3100 accelerator
[07:35] <arooni-mobile> how do i get my path
[07:35] <webman> gasull like v=123;sudo command ?
[07:35] <gasull> webman: yep
[07:35] <kgod> gasull: you may want to check the sudo manpage for if and/or how the environment is scrubbed.
[07:35] <ariemidedition> hi all,can i install ubuntu mid on my o2 pdaphone??I need help
[07:35] <deftone> it's not a problem in Hardy
[07:35] <dr_willis> gasull,  Hmm.. i dont think that would work quite right.. export  sends the exported var to the child processes only  Not sure if sudo would get those exports.
[07:35] <kgod> gasull: There are some risks to passing environments to  other users, particulalry root.
[07:35] <dr_willis> gasull,  write a few test scripts and see
[07:35] <deftone> why? beats the hell out of me....guess ubuntu didn't think it was a concern or something
[07:36] <l_a_m> i choose i french keyboard
[07:36] <gasull> kgod: It's actually root passing a variable to another user in /etc/rc.local
[07:36] <owen1> can i upgrade to 8.10 as in Debian? edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to comment the third party sources and replace 'hardy' for 'intrepid', and then run "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[07:36] <kgod> gasull: Point.    RTFM suggestion remains.
[07:36] <l_a_m> but i ve got always a qwerty keybord
[07:36] <tanath> i'm getting an authentication error
[07:36] <ariemidedition> hi all,can i install ubuntu mid on my o2 pdaphone??I need help.Please...
[07:36] <tanath> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-proposed Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:36] <gasull> kgod: OK, thanks :-)
[07:36] <Flannel> owen1: You can, but its easier to use update-manager
[07:36] <Flannel> !upgrade|  owen1
[07:36] <kgod> gasull: -E
[07:36] <thansen> crdlb: what's the 'ubuntu way' of enabling the nvidia driver?
[07:36] <dr_willis> ariemidedition,  i would say thats one to google for.
[07:37] <owen1> Flannel: i don't use gnome/kde/xfce
[07:37] <economyx> i'm unable to get audio to work in skype 2.0, anyone run into that before? mic works fine, cam works fine, but i can't get it to play sounds.
[07:37] <dr_willis> thansen,  i just used the  restricted-driver jockey tool
[07:37] <ng0n> crd:  use the 'non free' driver.
[07:37] <Flannel> owen1: theres a command line update manager, see that page
[07:37] <owen1> Flannel: ok
[07:37] <MunichMatt> musikgoat: Hi, I just wantedt to give you some feedback on the problem you hehlped me with last sunday. It was this strange error when trying to install things, that some packages were not able to be configured, you remember?
[07:37] <kgod> gasull: Also SECURITY NOTES
[07:37] <gasull> kgod: thanks, dude!
[07:37] <kgod> gasull: NP
[07:37] <thansen> dr_willis: it still doesn't show up in restricted driver manager for me
[07:38] <ng0n> thansen: look in 'all'
[07:39] <ariemidedition> hi all,can i install ubuntu mid on my o2 pdaphone?
[07:39] <qweqweqwe> hi, what package do i install for win32 codecs?
[07:39] <dr_willis> !w32codecs
[07:39] <qweqweqwe> ty
[07:40] <thansen> ng0n: maybe I'm launching the wrong thing...I don't have an 'all' option...what's the command line app to launch?
[07:40] <Aeosynth> How do I remove gnome-panel on Ibex? Session preferences won't let me anymore
[07:40] <werdnus_> What does 'Finish the installation' do in Ubuntu installer?
[07:40] <Omoikane> I just downloaded swfdec-0.8.2.tar.gz and want to install it. How do I install it?
[07:40] <ariemidedition> !Ubuntu-mid
[07:40] <dr_willis> !compile
[07:40] <tanath> anyone know why some stuff in the repos doesn't authenticate anymore?
[07:40] <crdlb> thansen: it's probably still blacklisted
[07:41] <thansen> crdlb: I think it is...so is there an 'ubuntu way' of forcing it?
[07:41] <crdlb> thansen: so just install nvidia-glx-96, then run: 'sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24' and reboot
[07:41] <crdlb> if that second command fails, you'll need to configure your xorg.conf manually
[07:41] <MunichMatt> musikgoat: you assumed that it has something to do with the status-file of dpkg in which i manually changed. Actually the problem was something else. when installing texlive2008 a install-info is put into /usr/local/bin which overrides the debian install-info in /usr/sbin (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012349.html)
[07:42] <thansen> crdlb: got it, I'll give it try and let you know
[07:42] <tanath> can anyone help me with upgrading?
[07:42] <runemaste> meep
[07:42] <runemaste> i went into a tty to look at the logs for the installer.... now i cant get X11 back up!!!
[07:42] <tanath> my preferred mirror appears to be borked, so i switched to the main server, and now some stuff doesn't authenticate
[07:43] <jordl> How can I add a new milestone to a bug report in launchpad?
[07:43] <e-frame> hi, i'm trying to install hsfmodem_<IP_ADDRESS>oem_i386.deb to make my dell vostro 1400 modem work, but it failed. the sound also gone. then i uninstall it, then install alsa-driver-linuxant_<IP_ADDRESS>_all.deb the modem works, the sound is back. but i no sound via headphones. any ideas ?
[07:43] <tanath> runemaste, switch to vt7 & hit ctrl+alt+bksp?
[07:43] <hangman_> Hi. I just upgrated from 8.04 to 8.10, but X doesn't start. It says that it can't find a PCI display
[07:43] <l_a_m> well ... nobody can t help me for this bug on xkb ?
[07:43] <jordl> or not-admins are not allowed to do it?
[07:44] <runemaste> will that kill the install?
[07:44] <DogPawHat> when i try to open a folder from the places menu, a password promt comes up even thogh i dont need it, anyway to disable it
[07:44] <tanath> DogPawHat, check perms on home dir?
[07:44] <tanath> DogPawHat, or the dir you're trying to access
[07:44] <thansen> crdlb: worked, thanks for the help :)
[07:44] <l_a_m> intrepid is very a poor Ubuntu .... never had such lot of problems since warty
[07:44] <rathel_> How do I hide this "Open F-Spot Photo Manager" that keeps popping up in nautilus when I browse my network drives? I'm using 8.10 by the way.
[07:45] <DogPawHat> how do i check permmisons again
[07:45] <flaccid> yes ubuntu gets worse each time :)
[07:45] <ocioso> Use Debian
[07:45] <l_a_m> i use .-
[07:45] <MunichMatt> musikgoat: but that's only to give you some feedback and since I dont know how to reach you
[07:45] <ocioso> ok
[07:45] <flaccid> or pc-bsd
[07:45] <l_a_m> but i ve got an ubuntu too
[07:45] <l_a_m> since warty
[07:45] <tanath> DogPawHat, in nautilus prefs you can choose to display that column, or you can right-click on a folder and look @ properties, or use ls -al in terminal
[07:45] <deftone> Amen to that l_a_m
[07:45] <Darius08x> I've got an odd question, it really doesn't have too much of anything to do with ubuntu though. It's tech related though, but more about helping me choose my college major and what not. Is there an offtopic tech channel?
[07:46] <deftone> i'm sticking with Hardy.
[07:46] <l_a_m> but upgrade hardy -> intrepid have broken everything
[07:46] <e-frame> my headphone sound is gone, how to get it back again ?
[07:46] <ocioso> MY Debian: http://ubuntu-pics.de/bild/5175/debiansimple_vXrU2B.png
[07:46] <dr__house> Hi all, Can anyone please tell me where the file that has the database of all the files in the universe repository?
[07:46] <deftone> it's recommended not to upgrade from hardy to intrepid
[07:46] <deftone> do a complete full install
[07:46] <tanath> intrepid wasn't that bad until around release time. then some updates borked things
[07:46] <hangman_> with "Xorg -configure", I get a blank screen and switching to first terminal I get: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nsc_drv.so: undefined symbol: xf86GetPciVideoInfo. any idea?
[07:46] <l_a_m> i don-t understand zhy the french keybord isn t found
[07:47] <flaccid> dr__house: what are you trying to achieve?
[07:47] <oonska> is there a way to downgrade back down to hardy or should I just wait until bugs are fixed
[07:47] <tanath> Darius08x, /list should list the channels
[07:47] <dr_willis> oonska,  not really
[07:47] <Darius08x> Alright, I'll go through them. Thanks.
[07:47] <oonska> thought as much, but didn't hurt to ask
[07:48] <piti> l_a_m: I didn't encountered any trouble with azerty layout
[07:48] <SkyEagle> How to install ubuntu from CD? I have issue: Invalid compressed format .... Kernel panic - no syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root
[07:48] <tanath> oonska, er, i don't think downgrading the whole OS is recommended. might be better to wait for bugfixes
[07:48] <piti> (but the upgrade was someway tricky)
[07:49] <l_a_m> piti: xprop -root|grep XKB  ??
[07:49] <tanath> SkyEagle, odd. bad burn? dust in drive?
[07:49] <l_a_m> piti: what is the ouput of this co,,and ?
[07:49] <l_a_m> fucking qwerty
[07:49] <Blackhawk> hi guys
[07:49] <piti> l_a_m: I'm not at this time on a pc with 8.10, but in one hour
[07:49] <babyrobbe> hi
[07:49] <Blackhawk> does anyone know a good messenger client in ubuntu?
[07:49] <clearzen> what are you going to use instead of qwerty?
[07:50] <SkyEagle> burn was fine
[07:50] <tanath> Blackhawk, pidgin
[07:50] <jim_p> Blackhawk: emesene for msn
[07:50] <deftone> what specific messenger u want to use Blackhawk??
[07:50] <tanath> SkyEagle, burn corrupted image then, maybe?
[07:50] <elTigre> Hey, since I upgraded to intrepid I don't have window decorations any more!
[07:50] <zetharx> upgrading from hardy to Intrepid...what is the best way to do it?
[07:50] <l_a_m> piti: i think in one hour intreprid will go to the window ...
[07:50] <Blackhawk> deftone, one for msn
[07:50] <oonska> BlackHawk, I use amsn and it works fine for me
[07:50] <deftone> i use amsn but it's eh...lol
[07:50] <PantchoFlux> HI, i have network-config 0.1 - how can i make my setting AUTO LOAD without the need of me to login and apply my settings that works?
[07:50] <hangman_> elTigre: mine doesn't even get to the login screen
[07:50] <tanath> Blackhawk, pdigin is multi-client. amsn is good for msn
[07:50] <SkyEagle> i has installed OpenSuse 11 and want to install ubuntu on same machine
[07:50] <alterego> i was wanting to know if there was anyway to get svideo to work on a ati radeon hd2600 card - i got it to work when i first installed video drivers and after i restarted it wont work again
[07:50] <l_a_m> piti: i try to repair the hqrdy->intrepdi upgrade from 2 days ago
[07:50] <Blackhawk> oonska, nah I hate the GUI, it looks really bad
[07:50] <deftone> emesene i haven't tried yet
[07:50] <jim_p> is this command correct? ssh -p 22222 <IP_ADDRESS>? i try to ssh on port 22222 on a remote pc
[07:51] <tanath> *pidgin
[07:51] <Blackhawk> tanath, pidgin doesn't let you have small icons for the contacts
[07:51] <Blackhawk> my main problem is with the various GUIs
[07:51] <l_a_m> intrepid = no boot because of kernel problem
[07:51] <l_a_m> then xorg problem
[07:51] <Blackhawk> the programs from KDE look freaking terrible
[07:51] <Blackhawk> a jumble of shiny icons
[07:51] <tanath> Blackhawk, say what? mine are..
[07:51] <l_a_m> and now keyboard problem
[07:51] <tanath> Blackhawk, indeed
[07:51] <deftone> in linux there is no great messenger client Blackhawk
[07:51] <elTigre> hangman_:  if you have a dual monitor, disable the one without 3D acceleration, that worked for me
[07:52] <tanath> pidgin is prolly the best
[07:52] <Blackhawk> tanath, how do you set the small icons? and pidgin for me doen't have flashing minimized windows when I get new messages
[07:52] <deftone> i just opera for irc chatting....
[07:52] <hangman_> hey thanks for the answer. how do I disable it?
[07:52] <tanath> it's unfortunately lacking in some areas, but i haven't found anything better
[07:52] <clearzen> jim_p: its ssh -p 9999<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:52] <Blackhawk> deftone, yeah, I've been looking for ages...
[07:52] <DogPawHat> im not sure anythings wrong with the perms, it was working fine before i upgraded:)
[07:52] <piti> l_a_m: hum, on the other machine, I had to edit some postrm and preinst script (about a update-alternative workaround), but everything went fine
[07:52] <jim_p> clearzen: whats wriong with the port?
[07:52] <Blackhawk> I'm using empathy right now
[07:52] <tanath> Blackhawk, there's options for that last thing. might be turned off. or you may have that suppressed in compiz
[07:53] <jim_p> clearzen: i will be prompted for username
[07:53] <l_a_m> piti: i don t find anything on this xkb bug
[07:53] <Blackhawk> Tanath, I even tried to install live messenger through wine, it lagged like hell
[07:53] <hangman_> elTigre: anyway I'm on a laptop, just one monitor
[07:54] <jim_p> does anyone know a nice putty alternative?
[07:54] <tanath> Blackhawk, erm, how small you looking for? the icons in the buddy list are small/normal sized...
[07:54] <piti> l_a_m: you're xorg, or/and system/preferences/keyboard is ok ?
[07:54] <flaccid> jim_p:
[07:54] <flaccid> konsole :p
[07:54] <Blackhawk> empathy small icon sized, tanath
[07:54] <tanath> Blackhawk, highlighting works for me...
[07:54] <tarelerulz> is there a program you can manage your music and videos .  So you could say search though them easy and fast.  have categorize like tv-show , movie , youtube clips and so on . If you if you say you wanted to rip your whole dvd collection to you computer you could surf it easy .
[07:54] <piti> s/you're/tour/
[07:54] <flaccid> actually yakuake is a made term emulator
[07:54] <l_a_m> Option          "XkbRules"      "xorg" Option          "XkbModel"      "pc105" Option          "XkbLayout"     "fr" Option          "XkbVariant" "latin9"
[07:54] <tanath> Blackhawk, i don't use it..
[07:54] <l_a_m>  i ve got this in xorg conf
[07:54] <Blackhawk> tanath, nm, I guess I'll have to stick to empathy
[07:54] <jim_p> flaccid: it seems the terminal just spit me!
[07:54] <l_a_m> qnd french keybord in system preferences
[07:55] <l_a_m> but in really i ve got a qwerty keybord
[07:55] <hangman_> elTigre: any other idea? It's kinda weird that it worked okay on Hardy with the same hardware
[07:55] <l_a_m> ..... nice
[07:55] <tarelerulz> Blackhawk ,  how si empathy goggle talk support going ?
[07:55] <elTigre> hangman_: you will probably need to change your xorg.conf and especially read the X Server log
[07:55] <flaccid> spit?
[07:55] <piti> l_a_m: just in case, there's a #ubuntu-fr channel
[07:55] <tanath> Blackhawk, icons for me are around 32x32
[07:56] <Blackhawk> tarelurulz, I dunno actually, I only use it for msn
[07:56] <kgod> jim_p: ssh ;-)
[07:56] <jim_p> flaccid: i mean that i always fail to connect from ssh from the terminal, but putty works like a miracle
[07:56] <hangman_> elTigre: which section specifically?
[07:56] <tarelerulz> blackhawk, does msm have voice chat and stuff like that ?
[07:56] <deftone> Blackhawk: that emesene program looks very promising. I think I'm gonna try it out.
[07:57] <alterego> is there svideo support for a ati radeon 2600 HD?\
[07:57] <Blackhawk> tarelerulz, yeah it does
[07:57] <elTigre> hangman_: I don't know your specific problem, so I can't say... you need to check the logs
[07:57] <kgod> jim_p: There's secureCRT or something like it, which I thought was pants.  *Very* slow redraws.  Cygwin's got an ssh client (with possible security issues for the Gygrun.DLL or whatever the shared lib is).
[07:57] <kgod> jim_p: What's wrong with PuTTY?
[07:57] <tanath> Blackhawk, for the notification, you might try enabling the message notification plugin
[07:57] <Blackhawk> deftone, yeah its very good, I just have major GUI probs
[07:57] <l_a_m> i ve got this dialog for each login .
[07:57] <jim_p> kgod: its ugly and i dont understand what i select
[07:57] <l_a_m> Error activating XKB configuration.
[07:57] <l_a_m> It can happen under various circumstances:
[07:57] <l_a_m> - a bug in libxklavier library
[07:57] <l_a_m> - a bug in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities)
[07:57] <l_a_m> - X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation
[07:57] <FloodBot1> l_a_m: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <Blackhawk> tanath, thanks I'll check that out
[07:57] <werdnus_> ugh, I'm stuck in a grub prompt on my newly installed system.
[07:57] <elTigre> hangman_: you might try to change your card's "device" driver to vga for example, but that is a bad fix... you might loose all acceleration
[07:58] <werdnus_> I think I forgot to write menu.list...
[07:58] <kgod> jim_p: what you select how/when?
[07:58] <werdnus_> menu.lst*
[07:58] <hangman_> elTigre: I'm pretty new to Linux, hope the following question doesn't sound too annoying: how do I check X's log?
[07:58] <elTigre> hangman_: I'm no expert with this, but in this channel nobody else is interested in helping you
[07:58] <jin_> how can I do chfs my / partition if I'm logged in?
[07:58] <jin_> or is tehre a way to force fs check on next reboot?
[07:58] <l_a_m> piti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/67174/
[07:58] <jin_> there*
[07:58] <elTigre> hangman_: less /var/log/X...something
[07:58] <kgod> werdnus_: 'update-grub' after you modify menu.list generally. If you can find your kernel, you can boot through the grub commandline.
[07:58] <jim_p> kgod: in first putty dialog, those radio buttons are ugly as...
[07:58] <werdnus_> I've got separate / and /boot partitions, and it's having trouble mounting the root partition - I'm using kernel /vmlin<tab> root=/dev/sda2 ro
[07:59] <werdnus_> kgod: I know, but I don't know how :)
[07:59] <kgod> jim_p: <shrug>
[07:59] <piti> l_a_m: sudo apt-get install -f ?
[07:59] <werdnus_> kgod: it can't sync because It doesn't recognise /dev/sda2 as a filesystem.
[07:59] <werdnus_> kgod: is there something I can do to tell it what's what?
[07:59] <kgod> werdnus_: 'c' to get to a command prompt.  'help' gives you help.
[07:59] <piti> are there broken or not fully configured packages ?
[07:59] <clearzen> hangman_: the logs for X are in /var/log/Xorg.0.log I believe
[07:59] <kgod> werdnus_: there's tab-completion for commands and files.
[07:59] <kgod> werdnus_: RAID?
[08:00] <kgod> werdnus_: ... what can't sync?  grub or your kernel?
[08:00] <werdnus_> kgod: kernel.
[08:00] <hangman_> clearzen and elTigre: yeah, I found it, thanks
[08:00] <werdnus_> kgod: It says "Can't mount root fs" or similar
[08:00] <tanath> hangman_, clearzen, also in ~/.xsession-errors
[08:00] <kgod> werdnus_: sounds like you need some modules in your initrd or other.  What's the fileysstem on /dev/sda2?
[08:00] <deftone> man what is it with Xorg? have they all taken a damn vacation or something?
[08:01] <schnootop> when you start updating the ubuntu distro through the update manager can you pause or not ?
[08:01] <elTigre> hangman_: use a pastebin and post the link
[08:01] <kgod> deftone: I've heard they're all republicans....
[08:01] <l_a_m> piti: why ?
[08:01] <werdnus_> kgod: no, I think it doesn't know that /dev/sda2 means (hd0,1)
[08:01] <l_a_m> piti: all packages are correctly installed
[08:01] <werdnus_> kgod: ext3
[08:01] <hangman_> elTigre: any way you know I can do that from the terminal?
[08:01] <kgod> schnootop: yes, you can pause.  You may not be entirely happy with the results, but you should be able to restart the installer/packaging tools.
[08:02] <kgod> werdnus_: Are you sure it's not your swap partition or something?
[08:02] <schnootop> ahh ok thanks kgod  :)
[08:02] <werdnus_> kgod: yes
[08:02] <alterego> is there anyway to get svideo working with a ati radeon 2600 hd
[08:02] <elTigre> hangman_: depends on the terminal, your connection to the box etc
[08:02] <werdnus_> kgod: typing root (hd0,<tab>
[08:02] <kgod> schnootop: NP
[08:02] <deftone> kgod: lmfao....something is going on over there and it's ticking me off
[08:02] <werdnus_> gives me the list 0: ext2; 1: ext2; 2; ext2; 3: unknown (swap)
[08:02] <elTigre> hangman_: you might try copying the log file to your other computer and then copy and paste it for example
[08:03] <elTigre> hangman_: I assume you are in "console" mode
[08:03] <hangman_> elTigre: yeah
[08:03] <kgod> werdnus_: A sample grub menu.lst for your reference:  http://paste.debian.net/20625/
[08:04] <kgod> werdnus_: You basically need the GRUB root (usually (hd0,0)), kernel, and initrd lines.
[08:04] <werdnus_> kgod: what's this UUID stuff?
[08:04] <kgod> werdnus_: Ignore that.
[08:04] <werdnus_> what should I put there instead?
[08:04] <kgod> werdnus_: I think it's identifying the boot partition by disk UUID.
[08:05] <werdnus_> kgod: okay, so what should I put there instead? (hd0,1)?
[08:05] <kgod> werdnus_: Your true root partition.  /dev/sda1, etc.
[08:05] <toogreen> Hi there, question, I have used the "Private" folder to store information, and after rebooting after a crash, I can't access this data anymore! Here's the error message when i type the mount command:
[08:05] <toogreen> sudo mount.ecryptfs_private
[08:05] <toogreen> fopen: No such file or directory
[08:05] <kgod> Make sure your initrd line is present.  If you don't have an initrd already made, you'll need to fix things up by booting a livecd and chrooting into your install.
[08:05] <werdnus_> I have an initrd
[08:05] <werdnus_> but it seems to be working now...
[08:05] <toogreen> this is kind of a big deal as I got some important private data in there!
[08:05] <hangman_> elTigre: I was able to mount an USB flash drive, I'm copying the file
[08:05] <werdnus_> I don't know what I actually did :P
[08:06] <werdnus_> kgod: maybe I forgot to specify the initrd last time.
[08:06] <elTigre> hangman_: That's another way
[08:06]  * werdnus_ watches everything work for some reason.
[08:06] <toogreen> can anyone help me recover that data??
[08:06] <werdnus_> OTOH, it says it's Ubuntu 7.10
[08:06]  * werdnus_ grumbles./
[08:06] <kgod> toogreen: How'd you create the private partition?  I presume it's encrypted somehow.
[08:06] <kgod> werdnus_: Booty booty?
[08:07] <toogreen> kgod, i followed the instructions somewhere on the web, just installed ecryptfs package and configured it.
[08:07] <pogztimz> i am currently installing a server(ubuntu 8.04) in our school laboratory. i need help on how to access the server so i can work at home?
[08:07] <werdnus_> kgod: booty booty.
[08:07] <toogreen> kgod, then it worked until i rebooted...
[08:07] <elTigre> another problem I have is that java applets are not working any more. In fact they crash the whole browser
[08:07] <kgod> toogreen: You should be able to mount the partition from a Linux livecd then, so long as you know the password.
[08:07] <werdnus_> kgod: ah well, thanks :)
[08:08] <toogreen> kgod: i have to boot from a livecd just to do that?
[08:08] <kgod> toogreen: Depends.
[08:08] <demism> hey guys I see that gcc is installed but, none of the libraries are installed how do I get the correct ones for just C?
[08:08] <hangman_> elTigre: http://rafb.net/p/kyLkkf15.html
[08:09] <alterego> is there s video support for a ati radeon 2600 HD
[08:09] <Thraspic> Hey guys, what series of commands do I need to enter in order to install asleap?  I've run "make", and it worked, but what now?  "sudo make install" does nothing.
[08:09] <toogreen> kgod, what is partition most likely to be? like /dev/sda/private or something like that?
[08:09] <kgod> toogreen: My point is that Linux encryption is standard, so if it's a problem of having other stuff fouled up, you've got recovery options.
[08:09] <Blackhawk> hey guys
[08:09] <Blackhawk> how do you register a nickname
[08:09] <pogztimz> i am currently installing a server(ubuntu 8.04) in our school laboratory. i need help on how to access the server so i can work at home?
[08:09] <kgod> werdnus_: Check your grub config, fix it, and test w/ a reboot.
[08:09] <kgod> toogreen: You know where the private partition is?
[08:09] <Flannel> !register > Blackhawk
[08:10] <zetheroo> b33r: you still there?
[08:10] <kgod> toogreen: ... and what encryption support you were using?
[08:10] <toogreen> kgod, I have no idea! I just used the new Ibex feature, it's supposed to mount in /home/toogreen/Private/
[08:10] <clearzen> pogztimz: you need the public ip of the network. An open port for ssh on nat(I assume there is a firewall) and ssh on a pc at your house. That's one way to do it.
[08:10] <toogreen> kgod, It did everything for me so I have no idea how ti works and so on
[08:10] <deftone> what's the command to run adept manager from the command line??
[08:10] <kgod> toogreen: I'd suggest you read the docs.  I suspect you're missing kernel modules or something.
[08:10] <olskolirc> im on Intrepid..how do I get my keyboard back to my regular us 102 keys american letters.  I have to tap apostrophe twice and I have squigglys above my m
[08:11] <toogreen> ok
[08:11] <kgod> toogreen: That's a problem with It Just Works....
[08:11] <Blackhawk> !register > Blackhawk
[08:11] <_Azlan_> hello all
[08:11] <olskolirc> I need Intrepid to find it and set it for me.  I´ve tried everything
[08:11] <kgod> olskolirc: In X?  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:11] <clearzen> pogztimz: you would also have to forward all connections from port 22 or whatever to the local ip of your machine
[08:11] <olskolirc> I did that too kgod
[08:11] <olskolirc> im going to take the switch out
[08:11] <olskolirc> brb
[08:11] <regeya> !joystick
[08:11] <alterego> is there svideo support for a ati radeon 2600 HD
[08:12] <toogreen> kgod, I agree, lol, i usually prefer understanding what I do... anyway I got it working again, all I had to do was NOT use "sudo"!!!! how weird is that
[08:12] <toogreen> kgod, thanks for the help anyway
[08:12]  * Blackhawk <blackhawk>
[08:12] <Blackhawk> hmm
[08:12] <kgod> toogreen: That actually makes a bit of sense...
[08:12] <elTigre> hangman_: I think you should dig up some tutorial/How to about configuring radeon cards
[08:12]  * werdnus_ runs dist-upgrade
[08:13] <toogreen> kgod, i guess yeah cuz its in user-land, but then how come does it not ask me for a key phrase? it just mounted it, no questions asked
[08:13] <kgod> toogreen: PAM integration?
[08:13] <olskolirc> testing t´t was ´t Iḿ
[08:14] <kgod> toogreen: Yep:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[08:14] <olskolirc> see?
[08:14] <paolo> Hi guys! I have an ubuntu pc with an ata disk and an external usb disk. At boot time, the boot process stops and I get a maintenance shell because the usb disk appears mounted (while it is not), and in the maintenance shell it keeps saying that the usb disk is mounted. All this happened after a power failure. Any hint? thank you
[08:14] <regeya> ubottu must be running on intrepid, since it knows nothing about joysticks
[08:14] <regeya> ubottu must be running on intrepid, since it knows nothing about joysticks
[08:14] <toogreen> kgod, ok, but then how is it "private"? If my gf figures which command to mount it, then she finds my pr0n!!! :P
[08:14] <alterego> is there svideo support for a ati radeon 2600 HD
[08:14] <kgod> paolo: check /etc/mtab and clear any entry for your fixed disks which claim they're mounted but aren't.
[08:14] <Tapout> I locked up my ubuntu box somehow.  Is there a way to alt+ctl+del or something without a reboot to get out of this?  Mouse disappeared too :(
[08:14] <PurpleDragon> screw this
[08:14] <kgod> toogreen: PAM == pluggable authentication modules.
[08:14] <deftone> Hey what's the command to run adept manager....i thought it was sudo adept-manager but it's not working...help.
[08:14] <PurpleDragon> all the good usernames are taken
[08:14] <mabus> Tapout: ctrl alt backspace
[08:14] <Tapout> Num lock won't toggle :(
[08:14] <olskolirc> Iḿ
[08:14] <PurpleDragon> who the hell goes around taking all the good nicks anyway
[08:14] <Hentay> !ebvybg alterego
[08:15] <Hentay> !envybg alterego
[08:15] <olskolirc> my keyboard layout is messed up
[08:15] <Flannel> PurpleDragon: please keep it on topic
[08:15] <Hentay> !envyng alterego
[08:15] <Flannel> !envyng | alterego
[08:15] <olskolirc> if i can fix my keyboard layout on kde will it be ok on gnome as well?
[08:15] <toogreen> kgod, i know, anyway i'm gonna go read the docs, thanks again for the help
[08:15] <rabe> test
[08:15] <rabe> reconnect
[08:15] <kgod> toogreen: The privacy comes from the encrypted-on-disk nature of the partition.  When the partition is mounted, any process with access to the directory tree can read the data, but unless your user password is supplied at login, you can't see it. Or something like that, I'm sorta guessing.
[08:16] <rathel_> How do I hide this "Open F-Spot Photo Manager" that keeps popping up in nautilus when I browse my network drives? I'm using 8.10 by the way.
[08:16] <Tapout> first ubuntu lockup :(
[08:16] <werdnus_> !gpg
[08:16] <Tapout> had to hit restart button, was totally frozen
[08:16] <werdnus_> !unauthenticated
[08:16] <kgod> Tapout: You think this is slashdot or something? ;-)
[08:17] <alterego> this is wat i get when i try installing the envy drivers
[08:17] <Swilky> HI GUYS! .... has anyone every had trouble with ssh whilst uploading files ...? im uploading at 5.5MB per sec with gigabit infrastructure
[08:17] <werdnus_> what do I do about the 'unauthenticated packages'?
[08:17] <alterego> ENVY ERROR: Your Operative System does not seem to be supported by Envy
[08:17] <Tamaros> if I'm running ubuntu as a virtual machine on a windows box can I mount one of the drives from the host system?
[08:17] <jim_p> kgod: can i make putty use gnome-terminal and not xter and its itsy tiny letters?
[08:17] <kelvin911> i have a question, after many updates, there are many different version of kernel in my grub menu.  do i need that many kernel version?
[08:17] <kgod> werdnus_: I smell an apt-key issue....
[08:17] <kelvin911> there are like 10 of them
[08:17] <hangman_> elTigre: too weird it was previously working on Hardy, though.  :)  I don't post on slashdot heh
[08:17] <kgod> jim_p: Sorry, context?
[08:17] <werdnus_> kgod: yeah
[08:17] <werdnus_> kgod: just don't remember how to fix it.
[08:18] <paolo> kgod, in mtab I haven't anything associated with that disk, apparently it's fsck that for any reason see that disk mounted
[08:18] <werdnus_> !apt-key
[08:18] <kgod> werdnus_: /join #debian & /mesg dpkg apt-key
[08:18] <werdnus_> 18:18 <werdnus_> apt-key
[08:18] <werdnus_> 18:18 <dpkg> I wish you would RTFM., werdnus_
[08:18] <werdnus_> that's fucking useful...
[08:18] <FloodBot1> werdnus_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:19] <clearzen> lol
[08:19] <madmerv> how to create a link from ubuntu to NTFS?
[08:19] <Tamaros> ya
[08:19] <kgod> werdnus_: Sec...
[08:19] <Flannel> !language | werdnus_
[08:19] <caligarn1037> does anybody know a solution to getting the toshiba satellite atheros wireless card working on Ibex
[08:19] <caligarn1037> ?
[08:19] <dr_willis> madmerv,  you can make a link from a ntfs filesystem mountpoint & files  to another location i imagine.. what are you tring to do exactly?    ln -s /onething/ /other/thing/
[08:20] <kelvin911> so are there many linux kernel i have in my computer?
[08:20] <Cheery> anyone noticed?
[08:20] <Cheery> somebody has rewritten X11 -server
[08:20] <mattgyver83> When i open a new terminal the first 2 lines say "bash: [...]: command not found" it repeats this one more time underneath, anyone heard of this?
[08:20] <Flannel> Cheery: #ubuntu-offtopic is the place for non-support conversations, thanks.
[08:20] <kgod> paolo: OK.  One issue is /etc/mtab not being cleared properly after a crash.
[08:21] <Cheery> Flannel: this is only for support conversations?
[08:21] <Cheery> ic
[08:21] <Flannel> Cheery: indeed, -offtopic is the social+everything else channel
[08:21] <paolo> kgod, maybe, but actually in the maintenance shell /etc/mtab appaers clean, i.e., nothing related to that usb partition in it
[08:22] <caligarn1037> any help on wireless with toshiba satellite with ibex?
[08:22] <kgod> paolo: OK, just taking a stab at it.
[08:22] <deftone> what's the command to get adept-manager in hardy?
[08:23] <deftone> what chip is ur wireless Caligarn?
[08:23] <carpeliam> so as of 10 minutes ago, my display went from Acer 19" to "Unknown"
[08:23] <carpeliam> and detect displays doesn't work
[08:23] <spolvid> Can someone help me? I'm trying to install Ubuntu and at 95% completion it says "Unable to install GRUB in (hd0)"
[08:23] <caligarn1037> deftone: Atheroes Wireles AR5BXB63
[08:23] <deftone> 8.10 Carpeliam?
[08:23] <carpeliam> deftone, yep
[08:24] <deftone> yikes....ya that is 8.10 for ya
[08:24] <deftone> i stick with hardy for now
[08:24] <carpeliam> deftone, i was trying to get DVI to work with ATI drivers :/ no such luck
[08:24] <deftone> k caligarn....did u try the restricted drivers yet?
[08:25] <caligarn1037> let me try that...
[08:25] <im> hi allü
[08:25] <kgod> spolvid: <alt>-<F2> should give you a console.
[08:25] <brain187> anyone buy powerdvd yet?
[08:25] <im> i cant join online chat with ubuntu,firefox can anyone help?
[08:25] <spolvid> kgod: And what then?
[08:25] <im> asp chat
[08:25] <deftone> also check the drivers applications to see if it's listed there under proprietary drivers on the system
[08:25] <caligarn1037> deftone: it says that my driver is on...
[08:25] <kgod> spolvid: 1.  switch to a console.
[08:25] <caligarn1037> deftone: when i was on hardy, i did a workaround that used madwifi
[08:25] <kgod> spolvid: 2.  start a shell
[08:26] <kgod> spolvid: 3.  ...
[08:26] <kgod> spolvid: 4.  Profit!
[08:26] <werdnus_> gpgv: keyblock resource `/root/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg': general error
[08:26] <werdnus_> :/
[08:26] <name_name> hey #ubuntu I got sorta simple question
[08:26] <scientes> how can i split a partition in two? ntfs
[08:26] <Flannel> kgod: Please keep it on topic and useful (and don't use the enter key as punctuation)
[08:26] <spolvid> kgod: Huh?
[08:26] <kgod> spolvid: See if there's an update-grub command available, if not, it's a wrapper around 'grub', which should be present.
[08:26] <caligarn1037> deftone: i got nothin...
[08:26] <im> i cant join online chat with ubuntu,firefox can anyone help?
[08:27] <kgod> spolvid: You've also got a couple of additional consoles on which errors/status is logged, may give you more detail.
[08:27] <name_name> how do I have the netstat command show connections in real-time and not have to re-run it alot
[08:27] <jim_p> im: chatzilla?
[08:27] <kgod> Flannel: Sorry, punchy.
[08:27] <BlackDex> is there a way to have a split-screen with two desktops side-by-side?
[08:27] <jim_p> BlackDex: nope
[08:27] <spolvid> kgod: And when should I start this shell?
[08:27] <BlackDex> not even with compiz?
[08:27] <im> jim_p: no
[08:27] <caligarn1037> deftone: I guess i'm just wondering if i should just copy the hardy workaround
[08:27] <kgod> spolvid: That's sorta up to you, but during the install when you're stuck, might be among the more promising opportunities.
[08:27] <im> jim_p: maybe java:(
[08:28] <kgod> BlackDex: There's a couple of ways you could get that sort of effect.
[08:28] <deftone> u might have to use ndiswrapper Caligarn
[08:28] <spolvid> kgod: Ok, I'll try that. Thanks for the help.
[08:28] <caligarn1037> deftone: alright, i'll try that
[08:28] <jim_p> im: try mibbit.com
[08:28] <kgod> BlackDex: Running nested X servers (xnest, xephyr), or remote access looped back to the local host.
[08:28] <im> jim_p: ty
[08:28] <kgod> BlackDex: What are you trying to accomplish?
[08:29] <deftone> use ndisgtk
[08:29] <deftone> much easier
[08:29] <kgod> BlackDex: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620003
[08:29] <kgod> deftone: ??
[08:29] <scientes> arggggg 64-bit flash support sucks
[08:29] <BlackDex> i have a very high screen resolution
[08:29] <BlackDex> and i work with websites
[08:29] <caligarn1037> deftone: but if i use ndiswrapper, i need to grab that .inf configuration file from somewhere....not sure where to get that.
[08:29] <scientes> no flash works
[08:29] <scientes> how do i get flash working in 640vit intrepid
[08:30] <deftone> yes kgod?
[08:30]  * rww wonders whether he's the only one who has working 64bit flash support
[08:30] <BlackDex> And instead of have two actual screens, i want 1 screen, and split it in half
[08:30] <deftone> from the source
[08:30] <rww> scientes: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:30] <im> jim_p: not irc
[08:30] <scientes> it worked sorta (not dailyshow.co, but youtube)
[08:30] <im> jim_p: like www.seslisevgi.net/goruntulusohbet/Sohbets.asp
[08:30] <scientes> i ahve nonfree isntalled
[08:30] <hangman_> elTigre: still there? I did a Xorg -configure "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" and here's the new log: http://rafb.net/p/35twqN90.html
[08:30] <kgod> BlackDex: Not sure I understand. Split in half how?
[08:31] <jim_p> im: The page cannot be found
[08:31] <kgod> BlackDex: you're *not* talking about a traditional dual-head Xinerama type setup?
[08:31] <hangman_> elTigre: if you come up with something reading the log, please tell me. thanks!
[08:31] <djhash> BlackDex: do you mean left half as screen 0 and right half as screen 1?
[08:31] <scientes> i tried to install 32-bit firefox to get a fullyworking firefox and it just sucked
[08:31] <im> jim_p: http://www.seslisevgi.net/goruntulusohbet/Sohbets.asp
[08:31] <scientes> and now flash is completely broekn
[08:31] <djhash> BlackDex: each with its own toolbars, panels etc..
[08:32] <im> jim_p: :s how
[08:32] <BlackDex> djhash: indeed
[08:32] <hangman_> elTigre: from what I can understand, it seems to find the driver, but no screen. I'm not actually sure about what I'm saying, though
[08:32] <PantchoFlux> how can i configure manually the internet? i mean eth0 card?
[08:32] <jim_p> im: dunno 404 error again
[08:32] <PantchoFlux> where is the file for this
[08:33] <deftone> caligarn 1037: try this first   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=964836&highlight=Atheros+Wireles+AR5BXB63
[08:33] <hangman_> elTigre: and, in the list I get after the "radeon" module is loaded, my card is listed
[08:33] <im> jim_p: :s
[08:33] <james_> nickserv
[08:33] <im> jim_p: http://www.seslisevgi.net/
[08:33] <james_> wow I stink
[08:34] <djhash> BlackDex: that is an interesting idea.. the only thing comes to my mind is maybe having a virtual screen of size half the width of your screen in the xorg.conf file.. but i dont know what will that actually do..
[08:34] <tarelerulz> I want  on irc chat links to be open with certen program .  Will xchat work for that . If so just tell the path the the executable work ?
[08:34] <james_> its been a long time since I used irc
[08:34] <caligarn1037> deftone: okay, i'll take a look at it
[08:34] <jim_p> im: where do i click?
[08:34] <kgod> tarelerulz: In general, yes, you can specify event handlers, not sure how XChat is wired in that regard though.
[08:34] <deftone> apparently it's aready in 8.10 so u just have to enable it.. know what I mean?
[08:35] <im> click sesli sohbet giriş
[08:35] <djhash> BlackDex: maybe people at #xorg will be able to help you.. not sure though
[08:35] <demism> I'm trying to get the g++ archive and it says it is broken or has unment depends and I can't seem to fix it, any ideas?
[08:35] <jim_p> im i get to a login prompt
[08:35] <im> jim_p: click sesli sohbet giriş
[08:35] <deftone> Xorg? you mean those people that are on vacation djhash? lmfao
[08:35] <im> ok user name and code and giriş
[08:35] <BlackDex> djhash: thx.. ill try to test some stuff, and let you all know
[08:35] <jim_p> im: i get to a login prompt
[08:36] <matrix_> hello when how can i isntall ruby
[08:36] <matrix_> and ruby gems
[08:36] <arooni-mobile> looking for a multi page .tif viewer for ubuntu hardy ?  suggestions?
[08:36] <tarelerulz> kgod , I mean the reason I ask is   when you look in menu  editor program all ways have %g or something on them .  that is why I ask .
[08:36] <im> jim_p: ok kullanıcı adı:user name parola: password no need it and screen code
[08:36] <demism> can anyone check if the g++ and libc6 packages are broken?
[08:36] <rww> !info ruby | matrix_
[08:36] <rww> !info rubygems | matrix_
[08:37] <rww> matrix_: you can install those two packages with sudo apt-get install ruby rubygems
[08:37] <elTigre> hangman_: I never configured a radeon card and I don't want to learn how just now....
[08:37] <djhash> BlackDex: pm me if it works for you.. if i'm not around i wanna make sure i got the msg.. :-)
[08:37] <Oprtz> when i update my system i get this error msg ( E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.15_i386.deb: unable to make backup link of `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic' before installing new version ) what is this ? and wat is the soultion?
[08:37] <burkesbythebay> i have installed ubuntu 8.10 with a separate home partition can someone guide me through mounting it so it displays on the desktop
[08:37] <elTigre> hangman_: I just tried pointing you in the right direction
[08:37] <matrix_> i am in here ruby setup.rb i get this error setup.rb:235:in `initialize': Permission denied - /usr/bin/index_gem_repository.rb (Errno::EACCES)
[08:37] <kgod> burkesbythebay: Um, it should be mounted.
[08:38] <demism> g++:
[08:38] <demism>  Depends: g++-4.2 but it is not going to be installed
[08:38] <BlackDex> djhash: i will thx for the help :)
[08:38] <im> jim_p: done?
[08:38] <hangman_> elTigre: haha. it's okay, thanks for your help anyway. I'm trying to read the log carefully
[08:38] <kgod> tarelerulz: There's usually a parameter substitution of some sort, yeah.
[08:38] <IndyGunFreak> matrix_: did you use sudo?
[08:38] <shes3k> hey, I tried upgrading to 8.10 and got that: http://pastebin.ca/1244075 , does it mean it finished? it didn't? should I run it again?
[08:38] <kgod> tarelerulz: I'm not sure what the specific syntax is, but %s is pretty typical.
[08:39] <Robb_M> shes3k: that means it did not finish, hopefully your computer didnt just go belly up.....
[08:39] <burkesbythebay> if i go to computer i only see the file system
[08:39] <qstnn> I am having Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. I wish to know why should I upgrade to 8.10 if 8.04 is going to be supported for three more years. I understand that 'support' means I will get security patches and updates of various software of the OS as soon as they are deemed stable for my 8.04. So what do I miss by not upgrading? It seems only thing upgrading gives is unstable software not deemed fit to put into 8.04 via upgrades. Please explain.
[08:39] <shes3k> Robb_M, what should I do than ?
[08:40] <sken> hello ubu guys
[08:40] <demism> Is the g++ package broken? How can I check? I've installed it on another computer before, but don't know why I can't. Any help please... thank you.
[08:40] <shes3k> its an production server, I still haven't restarted it
[08:40] <sken> sken is back
[08:40] <elTigre> hangman_: The log will probably not tell you your specific problem. I'd say you should rewrite the card / device/ screen sections just like the docs say
[08:40] <shes3k> because I'm afraid it won't come back up, and than I won't be able to ssh there
[08:40] <tarelerulz> kgod ,    I was just wondering if simple point to the program in something  like /bin/someprogram would be good enough.    It can't be that easy never is with LInux.
[08:40] <jim_p> im: i pmed you something
[08:40] <Fabouney_> hi all
[08:40] <im> jim_p: ?
[08:40] <Robb_M> shes3k: wow, oh boy, production server with a really messed up upgrade, um....do you have a backup of the server shes3k?
[08:40] <BleSS> I've not internet conection since 8.10 live-cd, how fix it? the problem is by network-manager
[08:40] <sken> what's the T1 or T3 in the network spped?
[08:41] <jim_p> im: a personal message from me.
[08:41] <rww> qstnn: If you value support and stability more than being able to update your programs to new versions, you should stay with 8.04LTS
[08:41] <sken> speed
[08:41] <Fabouney_> does anyone know a software witch convert html to pdf and support CSS please ?
[08:41] <shes3k> Robb_M, hmm, just for some configs and some users file
[08:41] <im> jim_p: where when
[08:41] <jim_p> im some seconds ago, check your tabs
[08:41] <elTigre> hangman_: also try #xorg
[08:41] <kgod> tarelerulz: I *think* this is handled in your desktop environment, eg:  GNOME/KDE.  Check your file associations there.  If that doesn't sort it, dig into XChat.
[08:41] <demism> i have ubuntu 8.04 and I cannot install build-essential or g++ or libc6 I get errors for all fo these. What can the issue be, it says it will not install the dependencies
[08:41] <Robb_M> shes3k: your server is in a serious need of a restore, i wouldnt trust the installation at this point in time, sounds like it got REALLY corrupted....
[08:42] <deftone> umm I can't seem to get adept-manager to open up! any help?
[08:42] <hangman_> elTigre: thanks
[08:42] <shes3k> Robb_M, I don't get it tho, it says the error isn't fatal (and it isn't, just something that I messed up with apache config), why does it stop after that ?
[08:42] <qstnn> rww: support is pretty much non-existent. Like I am doing here I have to hunt for myself. But I am wondering if stability would be better with newer software versions.
[08:42] <kgod> shes3k: did the system shut down / reboot after that?  Was this an install or an upgrade?
[08:43] <sken> what's the T1 spped
[08:43] <sken> speed?
[08:43] <Robb_M> kgod: i need to go to bed, can you handle shes3k from here?
[08:43] <shes3k> kgod, it was an upgrade from 8.04, and no, it didn't restarty
[08:43] <kgod> sken: 1.54 Mbps
[08:43] <kgod> Robb_M: No, I'm also crashing.
[08:43] <shes3k> I kept it open, I wasn't sure it it'll come back from a restart
[08:43] <Robb_M> im sorry i cant finish helping you shes3k
[08:43] <sken> i selected broadband because  i have a modem router
[08:43] <shes3k> well, that's okay. thanks anyway
[08:44] <shes3k> good night
[08:44] <rww> qstnn: if you're not having any problems with 8.04 (i.e., none of your hardware is unsupported, and no bugs affect you), you're going to get more stability out of 8.04, because something in 8.10 could break your setup.
[08:44] <sken> and the T3?
[08:44] <Oprtz> how to install ubuntu with windowsXP installed first ?
[08:44] <Robb_M> good night, good luck!
[08:44] <kgod> shes3k: I'd see what happens on an 'aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade'
[08:44] <Robb_M> !wubi | Oprtz
[08:44] <shes3k> kgod, hmm, ok
[08:44] <shes3k> let me try that
[08:44] <kgod> shes3k: You might try a 'dpkg --configure -a' and/or 'dpkg --configure --pending' which should finish any configuration of partially configured packages.  In fact try that first.
[08:45] <rww> Oprtz: you can use Wubi, or partition your hard drive. If you'd like to partition, the install CD will give you instructions on it during installation
[08:45] <shes3k> kgod, which one?
[08:45] <kgod> shes3k: Also check that you didn't run out of space on any partitions, or run into system issues (check /var/log/messages, /var/log/kern.log, and/or dmesg.
[08:45] <Oprtz> Robb_M:  i install ubuntu with wubi, but when i update the kernal it reports a crash because the partion if fat32 ,
[08:45] <kgod> shes3k: dpkg --reconfigure -a
[08:45] <qstnn> rww: Don't you think I would get better stability if I use newer versions of all software?
[08:45] <kgod> shes3k: That and --pending are mostly equivalent.  RTFM
[08:46] <kgod> shes3k: erm:  "dpkg --configure -a"
[08:46] <rww> qstnn: As I said above, not necessarily.
[08:46] <shes3k> well, that didn't do anything
[08:46] <kgod> shes3k: Its 'con'figure, NOT REconfigure.
[08:46] <shes3k> I'll try the second one
[08:46] <shes3k> yeah, I know
[08:46] <shes3k> ok, both of them did nothing
[08:47] <qstnn> rww: Do upgrades over a period of time make a system more unstable, perform worse than clean installs? Would that be enough of a reason to only stick to LTS and not go hoping through all the releases? Or is that argument not strong enough?
[08:47] <Oprtz> rww: i have 2 partion, with fat32, 30gb each, there is some data on the partions, is there any way that i can make 10gb partion for ubuntu and my data still on the partion?
[08:47] <kgod> shes3k: That's a relatively good sign.
[08:47] <matrix_> hey all i installed an old version of ruby, how can i remove it is it just sudo apt--purge remove ruby
[08:47] <shes3k> so should I go ahead and run dist-upgrade ?
[08:47] <matrix_> or i will need to do it from synaptic
[08:47] <sken> i love ubuntu
[08:48] <sken> but i can't find a suitable software for music, all sucks
[08:48] <Oprtz> rww:  i have 2 partion, with fat32, 30gb each, there is some data on the partions, is there any way that i can make 10gb partion for ubuntu and my data still on the partion? ???
[08:48] <lowks> how can i replace the ubuntu quiet splash with my own logo?
[08:48] <kgod> shes3k: Try:  aptitude --simulate -dy --show-why dist-upgrade
[08:48] <spolvid> Well, that didn't work.
[08:49] <kgod> shes3k: ... which should try an upgrade, and also tell you what's going on and what state packages are in, but won't actually do anything.
[08:49] <shes3k> kgod, http://pastebin.ca/1244680
[08:49] <spolvid> Can someone help me?
[08:49] <rww> qstnn: Again, it's a trade-off. If you want up-to-date software, upgrade. If you care more about stability, and you're having problems with 8.04, 8.10 might fixthose problems. If you're doing fine on 8.04 and value stability more than new features, you might want to stick with what you have, because it's stable.
[08:49] <kgod> spolvid: Just ask your question
[08:50] <kgod> shes3k: Looks sane.
[08:50] <matrix_> why do i get this  sudo gem update --systemNow
[08:50] <matrix_> /usr/bin/gem:10:Warning: Gem::manage_gems is deprecated and will be removed on or after March 2009.
[08:50] <matrix_> /usr/bin/gem:23: uninitialized constant Gem::GemRunner (NameError)
[08:50] <rww> Oprtz: You should be able to. The Ubuntu CD installer can resize FAT32 partitions without data loss.
[08:50] <kgod> shes3k: Just check those removals.
[08:50] <kgod> shes3k: I'm off to bed.
[08:50] <qstnn> rww: Thank you.
[08:50] <Bieleke> guys..... the ones that are running gnome and hardy or intrepid, have a network icon in system tray
[08:50] <Bieleke> at my desktop that icon is gone
[08:50] <shes3k> kgod, wait, so, I should dist-upgrade if those removals seems fine ?
[08:50] <Bieleke> how can i get it back ?
[08:50] <Oprtz> rww:  wow thats cool
[08:50] <spolvid> kgod: I tried update-grub, and then the installer couldn't see anything other than my boot drive.
[08:50] <kgod> shes3k: There's nothing that looks horribly broken there.
[08:50] <Oprtz> so i uninstall ubuntu with wubi now?
[08:51] <spolvid> kgod: For instance, it couldn't see the external drive I want to install onto.
[08:51] <ghostknife> can someone please help me with twinview. I need CRT-1 on the left, and CRT-0 on the right. And neither should be "absolute". iow, if I maximise on one, it shouldn't spread across both screens. nvidia-settings don't work: http://rafb.net/p/13JOCn91.html
[08:51] <shes3k> kgod, it probably happened because calling /etc/init.d/apache2 stop doesn't actually stop it
[08:51] <kgod> shes3k: I think your package state is sane.  If you don't want to remove g++, gcc-3.3, etc., then sort out what's going on or reinstall the packages after (sometimes you just have to wrestle with apt).
[08:51] <shes3k> so it couldn't run it again
[08:51] <K><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:51] <kgod> shes3k: yeah, it looked like it was mostly a service start/stop problem. Should file a bug on that (check firstt to see if there is one).
[08:51] <rww> Oprtz: Yeah, it is :). Some caveats: make sure you do backups before any major disk editing, including partitioning for Ubuntu. You may not be able to resize partitions if they're heavily defragmented or don't have enough free space. Resizing partitions may take a while, because a lot of data needs to be moved around.
[08:52] <kgod> shes3k: Sorry, I'm gone for the night.
[08:52] <kgod> spolvid: ^^
[08:52] <deftone> How do I get Compiz to run at boot-up???
[08:52] <shes3k> kgod, no, its my fault, I setup a reverse proxy there
[08:52] <rww> Oprtz: heavily fragmented **
[08:52] <matrix_> can anyone help me with to install ruby and gems
[08:52] <shes3k> kgod, okay, thanks for your time and help. good night
[08:52] <kgod> shes3k: ... and I'm not sorry 'coz I think you're OK.
[08:52] <kgod> shes3k: NP.  G'night.
[08:52] <Oprtz> rww:  okie, thanks for the advice, will ubuntu correct the booting of 2 different OS, or dominate itself ?
[08:53] <Oprtz> can u sugges some website where they demonstrate how to play with grub ?
[08:53] <kgod> spolvid: You can in a pinch punt the install w/o getting grub set up, though you'll need to boot a livecd to get into your system.  chroot into the install, see if it looks sane, and fix grub from within there if you need to.
[08:53] <matrix_> can anyone help me with to install ruby and gems
[08:53] <rww> Oprtz: Ubuntu Installer should detect that you have XP installed and add it to your grub menu
[08:53] <kgod> spolvid: Questions to channel, I'm really gone.
[08:53] <deftone> kgod: How do I get Compiz to run at boot-up??
[08:53] <kgod> matrix_: man aptitude
[08:53] <Oprtz> rww:  so no need to worry , thats cool :)
[08:54] <Oprtz> i love the new ubuntu
[08:54] <Oprtz> it simply rocks
[08:54] <spolvid> I have no idea what any of what you just said means.
[08:54] <easternayg> My HP quicktouch volume controls are not working, anyone know the fix to this?
[08:54] <FSCK_FSCK_FSCK> i dont like the new ubuntu
[08:54] <acer_> ex-chat
[08:54] <rww> Oprtz: The configuration file for grub is /boot/grub/menu.lst. That file's really well commented, so you should be able to do some basic tweaking without any problems :). Remember to run sudo update-grub after changing menu.lst.
[08:54] <Oprtz> FSCK_FSCK_FSCK:  :) why whats wrong to new ubuntu ?
[08:55] <vonderer> hello there, does anybody use MOC player?
[08:55] <FSCK_FSCK_FSCK> Oprtz: bloated
[08:55] <vonderer> somehow it doesn't work for me|
[08:55] <easternayg> is anyone on a hp laptop
[08:55] <Oprtz> rww:  ahhh,  i am not that much good in lunux, i need to read some website first :P
[08:55] <spolvid> Well, can someone else help me?
[08:55] <Flannel> FSCK_FSCK_FSCK: Please take non-support to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[08:55] <sken> when will be the next version of ubuntu?
[08:55] <rww> !grub | Oprtz
[08:56] <Sammy> Hi all
[08:56] <FSCK_FSCK_FSCK> how do i make dmenu remember cmdline options? i tried doing a bash script named opera with opera -notrayicon on it but dmenu prioritizes the original over whatever i export in bashrc
[08:56] <sken> hey sammy
[08:56] <rww> Oprtz: try the GRUB how-tos, and just google for specific instructions. There's lots of grub documentation out there :)
[08:56] <Sammy> please help me about this syamsul@samsul:~/Documents$ sh snx_install.sh
[08:56] <Sammy> trap: 43: SIGINT: bad trap
[08:56] <Oprtz> rww:  thanks dude! :)
[08:56] <rww> Oprtz: I'm not at a graphical terminal right now, so I can't browse the web and find you specific ones :(
[08:56] <Col> Hi y'all
[08:56] <FSCK_FSCK_FSCK> rww: graphical terminal?
[08:57] <Oprtz> rww:  wow, so how can u chat at irc ? u must be very good in ubuntu
[08:57] <matrix_> iam in here  cd rubygems-1.3.1 then sudo ruby setup.rb then i get this RubyGems installed the following executables:
[08:57] <matrix_> 	/usr/bin/gem1.8
[08:57] <matrix_> If `gem` was installed by a previous RubyGems installation, you may need
[08:57] <matrix_> to remove it by hand.
[08:57] <FloodBot1> matrix_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:57] <rww> Oprtz: there are command-line IRC clients. They're pretty easy to use :)
[08:57] <spolvid> Can someone help me? I can't get Ubuntu to install, GRUB failed.
[08:57] <rww> FSCK_FSCK_FSCK: Yes, I don't have X running right now for various reasons.
[08:57] <Slash_Network> I have the same problem
[08:57] <Magilla> Hi guys! Need some help with an upgrade gone wrong. No errors during the upgrade process, but now the computer locks while loading the logon screen. It's an HP netbook. Recovery-modes "Attempt to fix X" hasn't helped
[08:57] <sken> rww whatch your mouth
[08:58] <vonderer> hello there, does anybody use MOC player?
[08:58] <Slash_Network> I have no grub directory
[08:58] <sken> here is a friendly chat
[08:58] <matrix_> how can i remove my  previous RubyGems installation
[08:58] <vonderer> somehow it doesn't work for me
[08:58] <rww> sken: If FSCK's name violates Ubuntu's CoC, I recommend you direct your advice towards a channel op who can kick him.
[08:58] <spolvid> Also, I'm mainly a Mac guy so I have no clue what most of this stuff means :P
[08:58] <FSCK_FSCK_FSCK> my name doesnt violate anything...
[08:58] <Sammy> hi all how is to install snx for VPN
[08:58] <FSCK_FSCK_FSCK> does anybody use dmenu around here?
[08:59] <pogztimz> i am currently installing a server(ubuntu 8.04) in our school laboratory. i need help on how to access the server so i can work at home?
[08:59] <alterego> is there a way to check to see if envy installed correctly?
[08:59] <matrix_> how can i remove my  previous RubyGems installation
[08:59] <rww> FSCK_FSCK_FSCK: I wasn't saying it did. I was replying to someone telling me to watch my mouth for (I assume, since I don't cuss) saying your name.
[08:59] <sken> ok    but watch your mouth i'm not gona say it again
[08:59] <FSCK_FSCK_FSCK> how do i make an exported path have prevalence over a file with the same name in a default path (ex /usr/bin)?
[08:59] <Bieleke> Bijwerken verbinding is mislukt: nm-ifupdown-connection.c.82 - connection update not supported (read-only)..
[08:59] <Bieleke> whot ?
[08:59] <pogztimz> how can i control a computer remotely?
[09:00] <rww> sken: Are you a channel operator?
[09:00] <werdnus> pogztimz: ssh/vnc
[09:00] <werdnus> !ssh | pogztimz
[09:00] <vonderer> hello there, does anybody use MOC player?
[09:00] <werdnus> !vnc | pogztimz
[09:00] <IndyGunFreak> rww: i highly doubt it, most of them have a lot more tact than that.
[09:00] <Slash_Network> I have a partition that contain hardy and work well, but when I've installed ubuntu 8.10 (64 bit) in the other partiotion, I don't find the /boot/grub. So the files system of 8.10 exist but I can't boot. I can boot only with hardy. Any help ?
[09:00] <rww> IndyGunFreak: indeed
[09:00] <sken> no but i care about this channel and i'm helping the operators
[09:00] <pogztimz> i have already installed ssh, but i can use it only locally
[09:00] <alterego> is there a way to make sure envy installed right
[09:00] <IndyGunFreak> sken: then you can best help by not having an attitude.
[09:00] <spolvid> Can anyone help me?
[09:00] <FSCK_FSCK_FSCK> sken: dont back seat moderate
[09:01] <pogztimz> i want to access my computer at work from home
[09:01] <IndyGunFreak> telling someone to "watch their mouth".. is a bit absurd.
[09:01] <Magilla> pogztimz: there may be an issue with trying to tunnel through your schools firewall
[09:01] <matrix_> how can i remove my  previous RubyGems installation
[09:01] <Flannel> FSCK_FSCK_FSCK: let the ops take care of it
[09:01] <rww> sken: Cool, I can ignore you then :)
[09:01] <sken> hey let's get back to work
[09:01] <IndyGunFreak> sken: and it make it even more comical when you clearly had no clue what you were talking about.
[09:01] <AnAnt> Hello, can I use vm-builder to make a VM that does not run Ubuntu ?
[09:01] <deftone> can't get adept-manager to launch can someone help me........http://paste.ubuntu.com/67193/
[09:01] <werdnus> Can we not attack people, please?
 i can fix that
[09:02] <IndyGunFreak> werdnus: nobody is attacking anyone, except sken
[09:02] <pogztimz> i have full access to my schools router
[09:02] <sken> hey i'm just joking
[09:02] <Land> 1
[09:02] <Land> 1
[09:02] <Land> 1
[09:02] <FloodBot1> Land: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:02] <pogztimz> i am currently installing a server(ubuntu 8.04) in our school laboratory. i need help on how to access the server so i can work at home?
[09:02] <Magilla> pogztimz: you will need to make sure you can get through the firewall, and probably forward the port to the server as well
[09:02] <sken> everywhere we need to have fun
[09:03] <werdnus> Flannel: where's that script again?
[09:03] <werdnus> auto_bleh.pl, right?
 can u pls instruct me how to do that?
[09:03] <Flannel> pogztimz: use ssh, install openssh-server, and you'll be able to connect from anywhere in a terminal (asuming you're properly port forwarded, etc)
[09:03] <deftone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/67193/
[09:03] <FSCK_FSCK_FSCK> wow this channel is only useful for questions like "HOW DO I MAKE GNOME LOOK GUD?" >:(. how do i make an exported path have prevalence over a standard path, anybody know?
[09:03] <vonderer> hello there, does anybody use MOC player?
[09:03] <deftone> Can't get Adept-Manager to launch...help pleez
 i dont know how to port forward. we dont have a firewall..
[09:03] <Magilla> pogztimz: you will need to consult the documentation for whatever router/firewall the school uses, as they all work differently
[09:04] <Flannel> pogztimz: Does the server have a public IP?
[09:04] <Flannel> FSCK_FSCK_FSCK: Please keep the non-support portions of your comments to a minimum, thanks.
 we use Linksys WRT54G v5 router
[09:04] <sken> I'm sorry then if i disturb you so much
[09:05] <Magilla> pogztimz: sorry, but I am not familiar with how they work
[09:05] <elTigre> It really worked
[09:05] <rww> Anyone happen to know how I can get irssi to hide join/part messages?
[09:05] <m0niker> stuf fsck
 we use Linksys WRT54G v5 router
[09:05] <mkartic> hi, how do i update time [sync with server] from command line?
[09:05] <m0niker> *stfu
[09:05] <rww> !language | m0niker
[09:06] <m0niker> sry
 we have a static IP
[09:06] <m0niker> will do
[09:06] <jim_p> im: are you there?
 ty anyway :)
[09:06] <Magilla> no worries
[09:06] <Flannel> pogztimz: Alright, what you'll need to do is log into the router and port foward port 22 to your server
kk one sec
[09:06] <m0niker> use the ip of router
[09:06] <matrix_> why do i get this when installin ruby gems  sudo gem install -v=1.2.1 rails
[09:06] <matrix_> /usr/bin/gem:10:Warning: Gem::manage_gems is deprecated and will be removed on or after March 2009.
[09:07] <m0niker> in your address bar that is
[09:07] <paul68>  Flannel: pay attention most of the europeen ISP block all trafic under port 1024
[09:07] <Magilla> rww: try /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[09:07] <m0niker> <IP_ADDRESS>?
[09:08] <rww> Magilla: excellent, thank you :)
[09:08] <maxagaz> is there an application like Rosetta that I could install on my server to do translation for my own projects ?
[09:08] <matrix_> /usr/bin/gem:10:Warning: Gem::manage_gems is deprecated and will be removed on or after March 2009.
[09:08] <Magilla> rww: I'm an xChat user, so I don't know if it will work. i just found it here: http://clintecker.com/disable-irc-msgs.html
[09:08] <matrix_> why do i get this when installin ruby gems  sudo gem install -v=1.2.1 rails
[09:08] <rww> Magilla: yes, it worked :)
[09:08] <Flannel> matrix_: Its a warning, and its elling you that whatever it is is deprecated.
[09:08] <AnAnt> how can I make a virtual machine using KVM ?
[09:08] <Magilla> sweet
[09:09] <Magilla> I need some help with an upgrade gone wrong. No errors during the upgrade process, but now the computer locks while loading the logon screen. It's an HP netbook. Recovery-modes "Attempt to fix X" hasn't helped
[09:09] <Magilla> any ideas?
[09:09] <jim_p> AnAnt: kvm is a module. use qtemu to fully tuilise it
[09:09] <jim_p> *utilise
[09:09] <matrix_> so how do i install this ruby and ruby gems
[09:09] <alterego> i installed envy and now i cant get to the ati control center anyone know wat the problem is
[09:09] <jim_p> Magilla: ati vga?
[09:09] <mkartic> how to sync time from cli?
[09:09] <npnux> hi
 can u pls check tis out. http://imagebin.ca/view/YOKXr-1F.html
[09:09] <scientes> how do i open virtual xdmcp sessions inside of my main one
[09:10] <Magilla> jim_p: Intel Integrated, IIRC
[09:10] <scientes> and how do i suspend a xdmcp session????
[09:10] <Magilla> I'll check
[09:10] <npnux> pls help me for dvr card
[09:10] <alterego> i installed envy and now i cant get to the ati control center anyone know wat the problem is
[09:10] <rww> mkartic: if you have ntp installed, take a look at the man page for ntpdate
 u still here?
[09:11] <mkartic> rww: ty
[09:11] <firestorm> Hi. Suspended my intrepid box but now sound does not work...have tried a resume and clean boot. Any hints?
[09:12] <rww> mkartic: actually, looks like it's a separate package, ntpdate, that's either recommended or required by ntp, so if man ntpdate doesn't work, install the ntpdate package :)
[09:12] <Flannel> pogztimz: thats the correct screen.  You want to forward port 22, to your server.  TCP.
[09:12] <IndyGunFreak> alterego: i don't think envy is supported...
[09:12] <Magilla> jim_p: VIA graphics chip
[09:12] <paul68> pogztimz: add the line ssh external port example 30000  internal port 22  to ip adress
kk
[09:12] <mkartic> rww: yup, did tat already!
[09:12] <magnetron> !envy-ng | IndyGunFreak
[09:12] <magnetron> !envyng | IndyGunFreak
[09:12] <vurv> how do you set a sound theme in Ubuntu?
[09:12] <IndyGunFreak> magnetron: tell him, not me.. i said i didn't think it was
[09:13] <magnetron> IndyGunFreak→ i don't know who to tell
[09:13] <alterego> IndyGunFreak: i dont think so either - im tring to get my tv out working u got any ideas?
 start? end? protocol?
[09:13] <Flannel> pogztimz: 22, 22, TCP
[09:13] <IndyGunFreak> alterego: yes, don't use envy, and definitely don't use Ati
[09:13] <alterego> IndyGunFreak: lol wat should i use then
[09:14] <IndyGunFreak> nvidia works well, or buy a separate tuner card, thats what i did.
[09:14] <npnux> ı input lspci  have my  dvr card
[09:14] <npnux> but how ı work my dvr card
[09:14] <alterego> no way to get ati working?
[09:14] <npnux> pls help me
 done. now wat do i do?
[09:14] <Flannel> pogztimz: You're done.  ASsuming you have openssh-server installed, that is.    Its a school, I imagine its static, proper internet, etc.
[09:15] <vurv> anyone?
[09:16] <alterego> IndyGunFreak: woops didnt see ur post
[09:16] <scientes> how do i open virtual xdmcp sessions inside of my main one
[09:16] <scientes> and how do i suspend a xdmcp session????
[09:16] <paul68> Flannel ok
[09:16] <scientes> is it possible to suspend xdmcp?
[09:16] <sken> Can anybody help me with Greek subtitles
[09:17] <sken> ?
[09:17] <sken> because we have the best language
[09:17] <ReelBigDick> Hi, dudes
[09:17] <ReelBigDick> can anybody help?
[09:17] <_ruben> !ask
[09:18] <alterego> IndyGunFreak: well thx for the help - ill uninstall envy and reinstall the ati control center ans start from square one again i guess
[09:18] <ReelBigDick> I wonder how can I reload the sound driver
[09:18] <sken> Can anybody help me with Greek subtitles?
[09:18] <ReelBigDick> _rp, thx
[09:18] <IndyGunFreak> alterego: good luck w/ that, envy is like herpes, you may not see it, but its there.
[09:18] <Flannel> !repeat | sken
[09:18] <alterego> IndyGunFreak: any suggestions on wat to do after?
[09:19] <spolvid> I'm trying to install Ubuntu for the first time and for some reason the installer can't see external drives.
[09:19] <paul68> Flannel is there a way to adapt the IPTABELS in such a way that only trafic from a given mac and ip is allowed to access the internet?
[09:19] <spolvid> Can someone help me?
[09:19] <ReelBigDick> so what about the driver?
[09:19] <sken> i want to adhust them in a movie
[09:19] <sken> adjust
[09:19] <ReelBigDick> amarok has made a mistake and was shut down
[09:19] <ReelBigDick> and now no music can be played
[09:19] <ReelBigDick> or sound
[09:20] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[09:20] <ReelBigDick> sorry for english
[09:20] <spolvid> Anyone?
[09:20] <spolvid> Please?
[09:21] <paul68> !patience |spolvid
[09:21] <rabe> WINE START could anyone give me a hint how to start applications in wine using the command line?
[09:21] <spolvid> Sorry.
[09:21] <DasEi> spolvid: are you running on live cd now ?
[09:21] <spolvid> Yeah
[09:22] <DasEi> !who|spolvid
[09:22] <jin_> hi, I just ran emerald --replace to use emerald. but now how do I go back?
[09:22] <jin_> !emerald
[09:22] <DasEi> spolvid: open a terminal..
[09:22] <DasEi> spolvid: enter : gparted
[09:22] <paul68> Flannel: did you catch my last remark?
[09:23] <shes3k> would anyone mind if I borrow what the bot says in response for "!ask" to another channel?
[09:23] <DasEi> spolvid: assuming your externals are connected and powered on, can you see them there ?
[09:23] <spolvid> No.
[09:24] <spolvid> I can see them on the desktop tough
[09:24] <spolvid> *though
[09:24] <DasEi> spolvid: you got gparted up and see your other drive(s) ?
[09:24] <ziroday> shes3k: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[09:24] <spolvid> No I don't.
[09:25] <spolvid> Wait, yes I do.
[09:25] <spolvid> Never mind
[09:25] <DasEi> spolvid: you saw the choice in the right upper corner of gparted ?
[09:25] <spolvid> Yeah, I missed that.
[09:25] <spolvid> Everything shows up fine.
[09:25] <DasEi> spolvid: so they are found.
[09:26] <shes3k> damn.. 129 days of uptime are gonna be gone
[09:26] <shes3k> because of 8.10
[09:26] <spolvid> I'll have to see if they show up in the installer though.
[09:26] <deftone> what is causing this windows to pop up everytime i boot up?   http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo51/deftone76/snapshot2.png
[09:26] <spolvid> No, still not there.
[09:27] <DasEi> spolvid: get the right device name (/dev/scdXX) from gparted, the installer will find them, too
[09:27] <jgb> how is the network configured on intrepid?  my network is online, but "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" gives me "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0."
[09:27] <ziroday> deftone: do you have it added to your autostart list in System > Preferences > Session?
[09:27] <DasEi> spolvid: ?
[09:27] <deftone> what would it be called?
[09:27] <brain187> can anyone recomend powerdvd for linux
[09:27] <spolvid> They just don't show up on the list.
[09:27] <ziroday> deftone: also we don't officially support ubuntu ultimate here
[09:28] <DasEi> brain187: vlc is nice to play dvd
[09:28] <deftone> it's a compiz question not ultimate
[09:28] <deftone> i have Compiz, Compiz Fusion, and Emerald
[09:28] <spolvid> The disc I need is sdb, but all I can get is sda.
[09:29] <DasEi> !who|spolvid
[09:29] <ziroday> deftone: you should only need one compiz entry, why do you have two?
[09:29] <DasEi> spolvid: close gparted
[09:29] <DasEi> spolvid: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[09:29] <spolvid> DasEi, ok.
[09:29] <deftone> i have no idea ziroday
[09:30] <abid-linux> raheem
[09:30] <imchrislabeard> hey guys im trying to run ubuntu in qemu and i get to the loading screen and the bar just keeps going back and forth
[09:30] <DasEi> spolvid: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[09:30] <imchrislabeard> any ideas
[09:30] <spolvid> DasEi: Couldn't fine package.
[09:30] <ziroday> deftone: well can you remove one of them and try reinstall simple-ccsm
[09:30] <deftone> this is the one i don't want to start up....http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo51/deftone76/snapshot2.png
[09:30] <spolvid> *find
[09:30] <raheem> hi
[09:30] <DasEi> spolvid: ibex ?
[09:30] <abid-linux> how are u
[09:31] <spolvid> DasEi: Huh?
[09:31] <DasEi> spolvid: which ubuntu version do you run ?
[09:31] <spolvid> DasEi: Right now I'm booting off of a 8.10 install disc.
[09:32] <DasEi> spolvid: so ibex, not hardy
[09:32] <DasEi> !paste|spolvid:
[09:32] <alap> i came across an error while compiling the kernel regarding makedumpfile its saying  Couldn't find package makedumpfile.
[09:32] <DasEi> spolvid: sudo fdisk -l
[09:32] <alap> suggest me what is to be done?
[09:33] <sken> which is the most reliable bittirent for ubuntu?
[09:33] <sken> is transmmision good?
[09:33] <ziroday> !best | sken
[09:33] <DasEi> spolvid: copy the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com , post it , and give url from browser here
[09:33] <rww> sken: Other people seem to like it, but I've had problems with it and use Deluge instead.
[09:33] <alap> i came across an error while compiling the kernel regarding makedumpfile its saying  Couldn't find package makedumpfile.
[09:33] <rww> !repeat | alap
[09:34] <Vinnonet> This is driving me nuts, trying to open a new window with the title boo. --> gnome-terminal --title=boo. Doesnt seem to work at all, im pretty sure the syntax is right. Going crazy
[09:34] <ziroday> alap: why are recompiling your kernel?
[09:35] <spolvid> DasEi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/67209/
[09:35] <Srpuce> Hi all. How do I mount my Windows server shares on my Ubuntu desktop? My Ubuntu machine won't find any windows shares at all, just their hostnames...
[09:35] <alap> this s the first time i am compiling my kernel
[09:35] <ruxpin> I just upgraded to ibix, and I the old way of changing window opacity has changed. alt+wheel does not work anymore, and I can't find the option in compizconfig. where is it?
[09:35] <ziroday> alap: but why are you doing so?
[09:36] <ziroday> ruxpin: do you have the module "Opacity, Brightness and Saturation" enabled?
[09:36] <Magilla> Vinnonet: doesn't work here either. Strange...
[09:37] <paul68> DasEi: do you know anything about configuring IPTABLES, if so is there a way to determine that only a given ip with mac address can access the internet?
[09:37] <DasEi> spolvid:  GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on /dev/sdc,  thats the problem with it
[09:37] <murlidhar> paul68: does ufw work out for you ?
[09:37] <sken> what port can i choose for deluge?
[09:38] <alap> i am trying to write device drivers and for installing modules v should compile the kernel  as its suggested at help.ubuntu.com/
[09:38] <paul68> murlidhar: I don't have a grafical interface on my server
[09:38] <murlidhar> sken: any port . will do . make sure that the port is opened
[09:38] <thseiler_> nick thseiler
[09:38] <spolvid> DasEi: So what do I do?
[09:38] <ziroday> Vinnonet: you need to change the preference Title and Command -> When terminal commands set thier own titles to "Keep initial title"
[09:38] <murlidhar> paul68: ufw doesn need graphical interface
[09:38] <pretender> getting an error 17 on the grub menu on a ubuntu 8.10 install thats a day old.  I suspect the hard disk has died but the BIOS see's it how can i fix this problem
[09:39] <Srpuce> Windows shares on Ubuntu? Anybody?
[09:39] <ruxpin> ziroday: ah it's a new module? I don't know why I missed that.. thanks
[09:39] <murlidhar> paul68: ufw --help may help you in understanding
[09:39] <IndyGunFreak> pretender: if you have a live disk, just reinstall grub.
[09:39] <e-frame> what the hell is he doin? bgc3
[09:39] <sken> what can i choose for upload speed?
[09:39] <paul68> murlidhar: I mixed up ufw with fwbuilder
[09:39] <sken> in deluge
[09:39] <murlidhar> !grub | pretender
[09:40] <rww> IndyGunFreak: what's the ubuntu way of doing that from a live disc?
[09:40] <murlidhar> paul68: fwbuilder ?
[09:40] <IndyGunFreak> rww: thats the easiest way..
[09:40] <Vinnonet> ziroday: Thats what its set to by default, still not working?
[09:40] <murlidhar> sken: 80% of your usual upload speed
[09:40] <rww> IndyGunFreak: no, I mean, say I have a live cd and a broken grub install. What do I do after I've booted the live cd to get it to fix grub?
[09:40] <IndyGunFreak> rww: it takes about 1min to reinstall grub from a live disk
[09:40] <paul68> murlidhar: you have a program thats called firewall builder which is a grafical interface to setup ip tables
[09:40] <sken> i don't know how to put
[09:41] <IndyGunFreak> !grub | rww follow the instructinos here.
[09:41] <murlidhar> paul68: ok .
[09:41] <ziroday> Vinnonet: not sure then sorry, try create a new profile?
[09:41] <murlidhar> !ufw | paul68
[09:41] <IndyGunFreak> rww: follow the instructions to "restore" grub..
  im only running ubuntu not windows
[09:41] <murlidhar> !info ufw
[09:41] <imchrislabeard> so installing ubuntu on qemu hangs on loading screen any suggestions ?
[09:41] <IndyGunFreak> pretender: what does windows have to do w/ grub?
[09:42] <rww> IndyGunFreak: duh, should've read that before asking. Thanks :)
[09:42] <murlidhar> pretender: ubottu is a bot not a human
[09:42] <IndyGunFreak> rww: :)
[09:42] <mattgyver83> After rebooting my screen resolution keeps resetting.  Is there a way to specify the actual size on the xorg.conf file?
[09:42] <lclimber> hello everyone, i just upgraded to intrepid ibex, i am still noting the changes,  one thing that bothers me is that when i try to open a directory that contains a video format, it opens the directory directly with xine instead of nautilus, how can i change that?
[09:42] <DasEi> spolvid:  you could try to d/l gparted live cd, format the drive with that and then the installer should be able to access it
  thanks how can you tell that?
[09:43] <murlidhar> pretender: cuz i know . i have been a user since last one year. anyways he is a good bot .
[09:43] <murlidhar> !bot | pretender
[09:44] <rww> pretender: whenever ubottu says something, there should be a line close above its with a !command in it. You can thank whoever said that line :)
[09:44] <DasEi> spolvid:  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:45] <Srpuce> Ok. No help here. Does anybody know of a pay phone number in europe to call for help? I really need so solve this smb share issue.
[09:45] <stodan> i have ubuntu on usb drive and i wonder if it would be easy to create two or more startup presets dependant on which computer it is run, any ideas?
[09:45] <spolvid> DasEi: The Installer seems to be able to see the discs when I go straight into installation without entering a live session.
[09:45] <pretender> ok.  but anyone out there have an idea on my error 17 message on gub
, what is the problem with smbshare?
[09:46] <DasEi> spolvid: what happens if you try to install ? does formatting work ?
[09:47] <rww> Srpuce: open up google and search /seeing windows shares in ubuntu/ and see if the pages there help
[09:47] <hateball> Srpuce» http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid if you're not happy with waiting for an answer
[09:47] <spolvid> DasEi: Everything works until it tries to install GRUB, then it fails.
[09:47] <Balachmar> Hi, can someone help me out, my upload speed when using scp or rsync is very slow only like 5K
[09:47] <Srpuce> lclimber: I have a Windows machine with a lot of disks on it, that I use as a server. I can reach it from all my computers, including some macs. How on earth do I make a shortut on my Ubuntu computers desktop to those disks?
[09:48] <Srpuce> lclimber: When I browse the network all shares are empty...
[09:48] <DasEi> spolvid: thats cause of the mbr, but you could install grub elesewhere, not in the mbr
[09:48] <spolvid> DasEi: What's mbr?
[09:48] <lclimber> then open nautilus and type smb://xx.xx.xx.xx/sharedirectory and you'll get it
[09:48] <hateball> Srpuce» cant you access them directly through nautilus with smb://server/share either?
[09:49] <hateball> great minds and all that
[09:49] <DasEi> spolvid: for that, ask in #grub, as there are more specialists;  mbr=masterbootrecord
[09:49] <DasEi> !mbr
[09:49] <lclimber> ubottu, try using a livecd like knopix
[09:49] <Srpuce> hateball: Nope. Says NT LOGON FAILURE.
[09:49] <jin_> !p2p
 did it work?
[09:50] <spolvid> !mbr
[09:50] <Balachmar> Or maybe my general upload speed is slow...
[09:50] <hateball> Srpuce» Dont you get an authentication window when typing that address?
[09:50] <shes3k> what's the support time for none-lts ?
[09:50] <IndyGunFreak> spolvid: what is the problem you're having w/ grub and did you try reinstalling it from the live cd
[09:50] <Kattman_> !kde
[09:51] <Magilla> shes3k: 18 months, IIRC
[09:51] <rww> shes3k: if by "support" you mean updates, 18 months
[09:51] <RaverWild> guys. hello. have huge problem. maybe not really huge, but hug for me.i try to use xchat with cyrilic. problem is when someone types cyrilic letters it does not get displayed properly. tried setting utf8 and cp1251 - does not help. latest ubuntu here
[09:51] <Srpuce> All: Now it actualy worked.
[09:51] <Srpuce> I'm baffled.
[09:51] <Srpuce> Thank you!
[09:51] <rww> shes3k: c.f. 3 years on desktop and 5 years on server for LTS
[09:51] <lclimber> good for you, have a blast!
[09:51] <spolvid> IndyGunFreak: It said "unable to install in (hd0)"
[09:52] <spolvid> IndyGunFreak: I haven't tried to install again.
[09:52] <lclimber> spolvid what is your disk name on the system?
[09:52] <rww> Looks like the best way to motivate #ubuntu to answer a question is to threaten to get paid support :D
[09:52] <IndyGunFreak> spolvid: thats what grub said, or thats what Ubuntu said?
[09:52] <Magilla> lol
[09:52] <ndakotabr21> i am from brazil but i really like this chennel.
[09:52] <IndyGunFreak> spolvid: did you get that error when  installing Ubuntu(so the OS would not install), or did you install ok, just cant install grub.
[09:52] <Balachmar> I am using scp now and I sometimes get stalled and then it continues with 6.5KB/s this is abnormally slow. Normally it would be something like 1MB/s
[09:53] <spolvid> IndyGunFreak: The installer.
[09:53] <Magilla> off to ambulance training - I'll try my Q again when I get back
[09:53] <yefeng> hi
[09:53] <ndakotabr21> it's rare the brazilian channel have nice helps and conversations
[09:53] <spolvid> Iclimber: I'm not sure I understand.
[09:53] <IndyGunFreak> spolvid: so the OS did not install, correct
[09:53] <spolvid> IndyGunFreak: Yes, I'm running off the install CD right now.
[09:54] <IndyGunFreak> spolvid: you managed to answer me, but not answer my question, did hte OS install, or did the OS fail to install because of the error.
[09:54] <TiMiDo> !intrepid
[09:54] <DasEi> spolvid: is it a macbook ?
[09:55] <spolvid> DasEi: Mac Mini.
[09:55] <lclimber> spolvid try this before you reinstall http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/325
[09:55] <spolvid> IndyGunFreak: Yes, it was a fatal error.
[09:55] <DasEi> spolvid: I'm familar with pc, but will ask in grub now
[09:55] <IndyGunFreak> sigh.. ok spolvid try lclimber suggestion
[09:56] <TiMiDo> hey i have a question is there anyway. that you can remove the bootsplash from ubuntu? to have it as a stander. linux without the bootsplash?
[09:56] <ruxpin> why?
[09:56] <ruxpin> just alter the kernel boot line
[09:56] <sken> the upload speed is more the download in deluge
[09:56] <unop> TiMiDo, stander? what's that?
[09:56] <sken> does anybody know the configurations
[09:56] <sken> ?
[09:57] <TiMiDo> unop, stander grub.
[09:57] <rww> TiMiDo: Yup! Open /boot/grub/menu.lst (with sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst), search in that file for "splash" and remove it (should be near the end of a long line), save the file, then run sudo update-grub
[09:57] <TiMiDo> i hate bootsplash
[09:57] <rww> TiMiDo: Me too >.>
[09:57] <unop> TiMiDo, do you mean "Standard" ??
[09:57] <TiMiDo> unop, yeah
[09:57] <alanbshepard77> I'm trying to write files to my digital camera so I can get old photos transfered to a digital picture frame but when I write the files i get the error location not found I've found that pics on the camera are here gphoto2://[usb:003,004]/store_000100 <--- Is that mountable?
[09:57] <ruxpin> TiMiDo: why? nice graphics
[09:57] <DasEi> spolvid: simplest idea is to have a additional (256MB) usb and locate grub there
[09:57] <TiMiDo> ruxpin, just hate it i think it's useful
[09:58] <sken> rww?
[09:58] <rww> TiMiDo: If you find that you'd like more output while booting after removing splash, get rid of "quiet" in the same place
[09:58] <rww> sken: hi
[09:58] <ruxpin> TiMiDo: do you rather watch lines of ugly text?
[09:58] <unop> TiMiDo, change the kernel line in menu.lst and remove the keywords  splash and quiet
[09:58] <deftone> http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo51/deftone76/snapshot1.png o.k i can't stop this window from popping up at boot-up....any help would be appreciated. Thanks
[09:58] <sken> do you know the configurations for deluge?
[09:58] <TiMiDo> yeah got it =)
[09:58] <sken> i have a 2mbps speed
[09:58] <sken> and the speed is so slow
[09:59] <lclimber> spolvid: that happened to me once, i just found my  notes on that XD ,1) boot form a livecd like knopix, 2) become root and type grub, 3) on the grub command line type root (hd0,0) , then setup (hd0) and then quit and reboot
[09:59] <ruxpin> deftone: what's the gtk/metacity themes you're using? very nice looking
[09:59] <rww> sken: I haven't looked at it too much, unfortunately. Just installed it today and it worked fine out of the box.
[09:59] <lclimber> by the way adjust hd0 to your machine
[09:59] <rww> sken: try asking in #deluge on this server
[09:59] <deftone> just an emerald theme
[10:00] <rww> ruxpin: some of us like those lines of ugly text :P
[10:00] <skipper> hi all
[10:00] <deftone> it's driving me crazy that i can't find the setting to keep that window from popping up....geeeez
[10:01] <IndyGunFreak> lclimber: i've not beena ble to duplicate that w/ opening a video directory... no idea what would cause that
[10:01] <firestorm> Hi there. I have no sound after doing a suspend on intrepid. My sound is intel HD audio (dell laptop). Any pointers on getting sound back?
[10:01] <ruxpin> rww: eww
[10:01] <Zac> Hey people, new ubuntu user... can't get my USB wireless adapter to work. any suggestions on a good replacement wireless adapter for the desktop?
[10:02] <dr_willis> deftone,  i would check the gnome sessions tool. and be sure its not been some how added to the auto-start programs
[10:02] <meganox> deftone: try closing all applications, go to system -> preferences -> sessions -> options and click "remember all running applications"
, i think i got it, aparently intrepid added a new feature that automatically executes certain media files
[10:02] <mattgyver83> I updated to ubuntu 8.10, now when i open a new terminal window i get the error "bash:  [...]: command not found" twice, anyone know what causes this?
[10:03] <IndyGunFreak> lclimber: maybe.. but it never did that tome.
[10:03] <deftone> k thanks guys...trying it out now
[10:03] <darius12> anybody else has a belkin usb 2.0 ethernet card?
[10:03] <dr_willis> mattgyver83,   i would guess some typo in the .bashrc or .bash_profile for starters
[10:03] <jfcgauss_> hi. what is linux-backports-modules package? how does it differ from linux-restricted-modules and linux-ubuntu-modules packages? is it recommended to install that as well?
[10:03] <DasEi> !backports
[10:03] <lclimber> well i think that is morphy's law kicking again
[10:03] <Prometheus7777> hi, fonts in qt3 apps looks ugly, anyone knows how to fix this? I use Intrepid Ipex, and there is no kde3
[10:04] <Wavesonics> hi
[10:04] <sken> does anybody here use deluge bittorrent?
[10:04] <Wavesonics> I'm trying to install 8.10 desktop (64 bit) onto a sata drive which currently has Vista 64bit on it, but in the installer, I can an error when it tried to resize the existing vista partition, any idea why that could be?
[10:05] <Zac> any suggestions on a wireless adapter that works 'out-of-the-box' on 8.10?
[10:05] <unop> !wireless | Zac
[10:05] <jim_p> Prometheus7777: install the polymer package and use qt3config tool to do them
[10:05] <spolvid> Iclimber: It says it can't mount the partition.
[10:05] <jim_p> Zac: even atheros work natively now!
[10:05] <Zac> not atheros usb adapters though
[10:06] <IndyGunFreak> jim_p: some of them.. there's still a few of them that require some work (242x)
[10:06] <jim_p> IndyGunFreak, Zac : ok i take my words back
[10:06] <DasEi>  Wavesonics: was the drive mounted at resizing time ? is it fragmented ?
[10:06] <gaminggeek> anybody else having problems with pulseaudio not starting up properly after the computer has gone to sleep
[10:07] <IndyGunFreak> Zac: the wifi docs should have reviews of wireless devices, you can see which ones work well, etc.
[10:07] <Zac> wicked, i'll have a look
[10:07] <mattgyver83> gaminggeek, im having a problem with audio but i cant pinpoint it.  It works for a few minutes, then seems to stop at some point.
[10:07] <gaminggeek> mattgyver83: that is odd
[10:07] <gaminggeek> pulseaudio is a damn headache :(
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> gaminggeek: switch to alsa
[10:08] <spolvid> Ugh, I really don't know what I'm doing at all.
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> spolvid: wassup??
[10:09] <spolvid> ActionParsnip1: Well, right now I've got two problems.
[10:10] <mew> 呵呵，我来也！
[10:10] <jim_p> gaminggeek: why dont you remove it then? do you really need it for something?
[10:10] <jim_p> ?
[10:10] <lianimator> mew: english?
[10:10] <DasEi> ActionParsnip1:solvid tries to install ibex on a macmini, which's drives have gpt so grub won't install in mbr
[10:10] <Prometheus7777> jim_p: i don't see options for font antialiasing in qt3config, still fonts are ugly
[10:10] <mew> I have a bad English
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> DasEi: gpt?
[10:11] <spolvid> ActionParsnip1: Not to mention I can't seem to get the Installer to see my external drives, one of which I want to install onto.
[10:11] <lianimator> mew: ni hao, may kwang shi
[10:11] <mew> Do I speak chinses?
[10:11] <jim_p> Prometheus7777: change to another font and a bit larger size
[10:11] <gaminggeek> jim_p: then I would have to go though config files I most likly I need it for this laptop sound card
[10:11] <rww> !cn | mew
[10:11] <DasEi> ActionParsnip1:http://paste.ubuntu.com/67209/
[10:11] <jim_p> gaminggeek: what sound card does it hav?
[10:11] <mew> What are you say
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> !usb | spolvid
[10:12] <spolvid> ActionParsnip1: Unless I install straight from the splash screen without going into a live session.
[10:12] <gaminggeek> jim_p: intel thingy
[10:12] <spolvid> ActionParsnip1: I don't have a flash drive.
[10:12] <rww> !gr | mew
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> spolvid: im not experiencedwith mac. i despise them
[10:13]  * rww needs to get unicode working on his terminal so he doesn't have to guess peoples' languages >.>
[10:13] <_2> what process is responsable for monitoring the usb bus ?
[10:13] <spolvid> ActionParsnip1: Fair enough :)
[10:13] <Prometheus7777> jim_p: not a best solution but looks nicer, thanx
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> spolvid: ActionParsnip1: Not to mention I can't seem to get the Installer to see my external drives,* one of which I want to install onto.*
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> spolvid: that guide is the same, usb storage is usb storage
[10:13] <_2> is it udevd ?
[10:13] <remoteCTR2> hi all!
[10:14] <gaminggeek> jim_p: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[10:14] <remoteCTR2> what was the command to get ntpd to synchronize the time?
[10:14] <rww> wait, damnit, I was reading the wrong whois line and pulled .gr from there *kicks self*
[10:14] <rww> remoteCTR2: from the cli? ntpdate
[10:14] <_2> or is it udevmonitor  ?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> !ich8
[10:14] <spolvid> ActionParsnip1: But I'm booting off of a CD and want to install to a Firewire drive.
[10:14] <remoteCTR2> rww: thanks!
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> spolvid: id imagine its something the same, can a macmini boot from firewire?
[10:14] <jim_p> gaminggeek: your card IS 110% supported from alsa! why bother with pulseaudio?
[10:15] <jim_p> Prometheus7777: you are welcome
[10:15] <RandomL> I have a bash question; how do you read user input in a shell script? What command would you use?
[10:15] <gaminggeek> jim_p: yay!
[10:15] <remoteCTR2> rww: that one returns me the following: ntpdate[27327]: no servers can be used, exiting
[10:15] <jim_p> gaminggeek: then what the problem is?
[10:15] <spolvid> ActionParsnip1: Yes, but I still don't see how this is relevant.
[10:15] <gaminggeek> jim_p: how do I get rid of it with out everything braking?
[10:16] <_2> RandomL read
[10:16] <jim_p> gaminggeek: sudo apt-get autoremove pulseaudio --purge
[10:16] <rww> RandomL: read [options] name1 name2 name3 ... namen
[10:16] <_2> RandomL  help read
[10:16] <rww> RandomL: try googling /read user input bash/
[10:16] <RandomL> _2 so just "read $A" or whatever variable?
[10:16] <spolvid> ActionParsnip1: I'm booting off of a CD just fine and I want to install to a Firewire drive.
[10:17] <RandomL> ty, thanks rww
[10:17] <Kwai> how do I install the old graphicdrivers. with synoptics?
[10:17] <rww> remoteCTR2: hmm. Try supplying it a server, so ntpdate servername
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> spolvid: just making sure your hardware can do what you expect
[10:17] <rww> remoteCTR2: ntpdate 0.pool.ntp.org, for example
[10:17] <kevin083> i've got two pcs. I installed 8.10 on both of them and now my wireless usb adapter works on one of them (it didn't work on either beforethe upgrade). Why would it not work on the other PC? it's a linksys wusb54gsc and (i think) broadcom
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> spolvid: if the device shows up in sudo fdisk -l you should be able to install to it
[10:17] <remoteCTR2> rww: i jusat saw you can command it what server to use by simply opening the adjust date and time menu from the clock...
[10:18] <kevin083> could the driver be blacklisted or something
[10:18] <darksifer> hi everyone. i have ubuntu 8.10.i am having problems with my usb wireless adapter. i connect to the internet through my router wirelessly. i succeeded to create the wireless connection. i have a dynamic ip. therefore my computer losses the internet connection and the wireless connection does not keep my WPA-PSK. so everytime i have to disconnect my adapter and recreate a new connection.can someone help me solve this prob plz :|
[10:18] <rww> remoteCTR2: or that. I assumed you were running in cli only
[10:18] <remoteCTR2> rww: rofl now io did that and it tells me cannot connect to server 0.pool.ntp.org BUT it adjusted the time:D
[10:18] <darksifer> i have no problem with wired connection
[10:19] <zhans> 怎么设置3D效果像8.04？
[10:19] <_2> RandomL no.     help read    for howto   but a var is not user input.  if you want to read a var just insert the var.     echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\nread -n1 -p "answer [Y,n]" q \n\necho "you answered $q"' > new_script.sh
[10:19] <jim_p> darksifer: blame the crappy network manager. uninstall it and install wicd. tell me if you need help
[10:19] <darksifer> jim_p: thank you
[10:20] <carlinhos> hi everybody
[10:20] <rww> remoteCTR2: lol. And I only just realized that I don't actually have ntpd installed, just ntpdate
[10:20] <jim_p> darksifer: wicd is not on the repos!
[10:20] <spolvid> ActionParsnip1: It shows up just fine in fdisk and gparted, but not the installer.
[10:20] <rww> remoteCTR2: confusion reigns everywhere, it appears
[10:20] <_2> so what process watches the usb bus for changes ?
[10:20] <_2> anyone ?
[10:20] <KingOfDos> I get the message "No new release found" when i'd run do-release-upgrade at my server. I'd found a couple of users having the same problem, but so far there is no solution.
[10:20] <KingOfDos> Has someone a suggestion for me, where/what to search?
[10:21] <remoteCTR2> rww: heh so it seems,but who cares as log as it works
[10:21] <rww> KingOfDos: what's the output of lsb_release -d?
[10:21] <jin_> why is ffmpeg still not in medibuntu?
[10:21] <carlinhos> can anyone help me with my 1680x1050 resolution in 8.10??
[10:21] <ziroday> jin_: ask the medibuntu admins
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> spolvid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community//Boot/ExternalHardDisk/Firewire?action=show&redirect=BootFromFirewireHardDisk
[10:21] <KingOfDos> Description:    Ubuntu 8.04.1
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> carlinhos: you need to install graphics drivers
[10:21] <sken> my resolution sucks too
[10:21] <rww> jin_: because it's in the normal ubuntu repos... I only have main and universe active and it shows up for me =/
[10:21] <KingOfDos> but i'd checked that already in the /etc/lsb-release file.
[10:22] <dooglus> !dual head
[10:22] <sken> when i open a window from taskbar the windows is flickering
[10:22] <dooglus> !xinerama
[10:22] <carlinhos> ActionParsnipl: i have it already installed
[10:22] <KingOfDos> i'd checked, double checked and tripple checked my APT sources file (even copyd one of another server)
[10:22] <_2> KingOfDos the command lsb_release just reads /etc/lsb-release   ;/
[10:22] <KingOfDos> but it's not upgrading
[10:22] <jin_> rww, there is a big difference between the two. the one in medibuntu has X264 support
[10:22] <KingOfDos> _2: i know ;)
[10:22] <rww> jin_: ah, okay. figured i was missing something :)
[10:22] <_2> KingOfDos did you update the database first ?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> _2: lsb_release -a
[10:23] <_2> ActionParsnip1 ?
[10:23] <KingOfDos> _2: update the database, like "updatedb"?
[10:23] <spolvid> !scsi
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> _2: i saw lsb_release and figured you were after release names
[10:24] <rww> KingOfDos: Did you edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal?
[10:24] <remoteCTR2> is the enw ubuntu version out already?
[10:24] <_2> KingOfDos no like. sudo apt-get update
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR2: yep
[10:24] <spolvid> !yaboot
[10:24] <_2> ActionParsnip1 oh.  ok.
[10:24] <remoteCTR2> ActionParsnip1: got it installed already?
[10:24] <KingOfDos> _2: ahw, that database. i'd updated that for about 10 times ;)
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR2: yeah its ok
[10:24] <KingOfDos> rww: dont know, checking the file
[10:25] <rww> KingOfDos: 'cause it says to do that in the official upgrade instructions ;)
[10:25] <remoteCTR2> ActionParsnip1: hows it concerning bugs in comparison with hardy when it freshly appeared?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR2: must admit i prefer hardy but its done now so i'll sit, no big deal to me
[10:25] <_2> ActionParsnip1 what i am after is to know what process is monitoring the usb bus for changes ?
[10:25] <KingOfDos> ahw nice. rww :)
[10:25] <corek> hello
[10:25] <KingOfDos> found it :)
[10:25] <KingOfDos> it's only updating to another lts
[10:25] <corek> anybody can help me ?
[10:25] <rww> !ask | corek
[10:26] <remoteCTR2> ActionParsnip1: i see... what troubles me a little is, when i upgraded to hardy i had a gazillion bugs so i dunno if i should risk to upgrade my workstations here at work...?
[10:26] <corek> when i do update my system
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR2: seems fine but all my hardware is extremely linux friendly on purpose
[10:26] <KingOfDos> rww: thanks, now i can update 6 servers :)
[10:26] <ziroday> corek: whenever you want
[10:26] <rww> KingOfDos: huzzah :)
[10:26] <james_> yey ubuntu
[10:26] <KingOfDos> is there any way that i can manage the "updates" centrally? like "micro$oft wsus"?
[10:27] <KingOfDos> i know that there is the "puppet-manager" package
[10:27] <remoteCTR2> ActionParsnip1: all right in that case i will upgrade mine first and if its ok i will upgtrade my users' machines:) thanks for info
[10:27] <KingOfDos> but is there another "official" way?
[10:27] <jim_p> KingOfDos: like... update from a local lan pc?
[10:27] <rww> KingOfDos: yeah, make a local apt mirror and edit /etc/apt/sources.lst to point to that mirror
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> KingOfDos: you can create a repository locally and add it as a repo to your clients
[10:27] <pretender> Can anyone help with an Error 17 on boot just after grub loading
[10:27] <jim_p> pretender: just reinstall grub
[10:27] <jim_p> !grub
[10:28] <_2> so nobody here knows what process is watching the usb bus ???
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> _2: ps -ef | grep -i usb
[10:29] <_2> ActionParsnip1 heh usb is not in the list. if it were that simple i would not have asked
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> _2: i assume nothing in here dude
[10:29] <_2> ActionParsnip1 don't assume it in here.  just assume it of me.
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> _2: ive suggested the most blatant things in here and got a thank you
[10:30] <meganox> what sources.list line do i need to get kernel header updates?
[10:30] <KingOfDos> ActionParsnip1 / rww / jim_p: I'll know that there is the apt-cacher package, and others. But still i want to manage (approve/test) the updates more then just changing the apt repository.
[10:30] <_2> hes i know.     like how to see my file? > dir > thank you...
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> KingOfDos: then have a test rig
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> _2: literally..yes
[10:31] <jim_p> KingOfDos: test? as in on another pc? use vurtualization then or what ActionParsnip1 said
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> _2: seems sometims like all websearch engines are down
[10:31] <_2> but still is it udevd that's watching the usb bus ?
[10:31] <KingOfDos> but how will the servers automaticlly check for updates available? so i don't have to do that by hand, after aproving the updates?
[10:32] <KingOfDos> the problem is that i'm managing 15 ubuntu servers, and i'm getting sick of the manual patching. i just want to patch 1 server, test it there. then release it to the others.
[10:32] <ziroday> KingOfDos: you can ask in #ubuntu-server, they specialise in that type of stuff there
[10:33] <KingOfDos> ziroday: ah nice. i diddnt know that there whas a "server based" channel :)
[10:35] <rww> Anyone know of a decent console IMAP client?
[10:35] <ziroday> rww: mutt
[10:35] <ActionParsnip1> pine
[10:35] <ActionParsnip1> mae
[10:35] <ActionParsnip1> *maybe
[10:36] <DIFH-iceroot> rww: mutt is good
[10:38] <jfcgauss_> i've noticed a proprietary driver named "wl" with little description under Xubuntu>System>Hardware Drivers. does anyone know what that is?
[10:38] <linux_trojan> anyone have any ideas on how to host a webserver if you have a dynamic IP ?
[10:39] <ziroday> linux_trojan: like using a service such as no-ip or dyndns?
[10:39] <linux_trojan> can that be done if I have my own domain name?
[10:39] <linux_trojan> I dont want "no-ip" in the domain
[10:39] <ziroday> linux_trojan: depends on the service, some offer it for a fee I believe
[10:40] <linux_trojan> I wonder if all ISPs block port 80 if your IP is dynamic?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip1> linux_trojan: you can have lots of different ones. mine is .myftp.org
[10:41] <linux_trojan> yea, I have my own domain like "www.linuxtrojan.com"  for instance
[10:42] <ActionParsnip1> linux_trojan: then you'll have to pay for it
[10:42] <linux_trojan> I have to buy a fixed IP?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip1> linux_trojan: no you can buy the name and refresh the ip to your current one
[10:43] <rww> ziroday, DIFH-iceroot: mutt works great, thanks :)
[10:43] <linux_trojan> manually configure it or is there a program that can do it for me?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip1> linux_trojan: there will no dooubt be a refresher, no-ip does a client app to keep the ip refreshed, id go with that personally as its free
[10:44] <DasEi> dyn-dns.com
[10:45] <linux_trojan> ok I thought I remembered them saying that but I couldnt remember.  I was investigating that for tightvnc, but tightvnc doesnt work on VISTA
[10:45] <linux_trojan> lots of programs havent updated from XP
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> linux_trojan: i wouldnt run any vnc over wan
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> linux_trojan: except over ssh tunnel ;)
[10:46] <akatiglio> http://xdcc.it/network/iTALiAN-SCeNE.html
[10:46] <linux_trojan> wow, it must be really insecure
[10:46] <rww> linux_trojan: it sends passwords in plaintext, I believe
[10:46] <linux_trojan> I wanted to access my home comp from work
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> yep, its unencrypted, muh like telnet
[10:46] <linux_trojan> jesus
[10:47] <linux_trojan> how stupid
[10:47] <linux_trojan> I didnt know that
[10:47] <ActionParsnip1> linux_trojan: setup an ssh tunnel first, that will give you 28bit encryption
[10:47] <ziroday> linux_trojan: if you just want file then you may prefer a service such as dropbox
[10:47] <akatiglio> 	iTALiAN-SCeNE
[10:47] <rww> linux_trojan: set up your home comp with an ssh server and vnc server, and tunnel to the vnc server through ssh
[10:47] <ziroday> akatiglio: do you have a question we can help you with?
[10:47] <linux_trojan> well, I am running VISTA at home, and my laptop has Ubuntu
[10:48] <linux_trojan> there is no SSH for windows, at least none that is reputable
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> linux_trojan: you could setup an rdp service on linux
[10:48] <rww> linux_trojan: ah, yeah
[10:48] <linux_trojan> never heard of rdp
[10:48] <m0niker> remote desktop
[10:49] <linux_trojan> hmmmm
[10:49] <linux_trojan> I dont like that stuff, Dell always ask me for that and it pisses me off
[10:49] <linux_trojan> trying to see my porn
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> rdp is awesome
[10:50] <ActionParsnip1> secured and pretty slick
[10:50] <linux_trojan> anything Windows makes me nervous, if I could record tv on my comp in linux I would dump Vista
[10:50] <linux_trojan> but tv viewing and recording is cumbersome and difficult on linux
[10:51] <dr_willis> I had MythTV going very well.
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> linux_trojan: you can with a tv card and capture software
[10:51] <remoteCTR2> can it be that my kubuntu doesnt recognize a nvidia quadro fx 770?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> linux_trojan: then learn and make scripts etc to make it easier
[10:51] <linux_trojan> Myth TV can download tv schedules and setup timed recordings?
[10:52] <rww> remoteCTR2: Are you using Intrepid? It has problems with some Nvidia cards, I hear.
[10:52] <remoteCTR2> rww: nope standard out if the box kubuntu
[10:52] <dr_willis> linux_trojan,  you can.. but unfortuntly - to get tv schedules you have to subscribe to some service.. like $10 a year..
[10:52] <dr_willis> linux_trojan,  unless its changed by now. check in #mythbuntu
[10:52] <remoteCTR2> rww:  i tryed the fx generic driver which rendes my kde unbootable
[10:52] <rww> remoteCTR2: Right, but is that kubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) or kubuntu 8.04 (hardy) :P
[10:53] <linux_trojan> lol they have a chat room for that?
[10:53] <dr_willis> linux_trojan,  you can even rcord and auto-zap commercials and auto-convert to avi or whatever
[10:53] <AnAnt__> Hello, do I need qtemu to run a VM, or is qemu enough ?
[10:53] <remoteCTR2> rww: oh! the new one is called intrepid, i see:) nope its hardy
[10:53] <dr_willis> Mythbuntu - is its own ubuntu disrto variant linux_trojan
[10:53] <linux_trojan> holy smokes
[10:53] <rww> remoteCTR2: ah, okays, ignore my passing-on of rumors, then
[10:53] <linux_trojan> I never knew that
[10:54] <ActionParsnip1> linux_trojan: if you shirk away from getting something you want fixed you'll never learn
[10:54] <linux_trojan> I have a haupauge card, I got it coz I know it is linux friendly
[10:54] <remoteCTR2> rww: but thanks for the hint anyways that makes me rethink about udating my cleints workstations already then...
[10:54] <Venin> ive added a line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base .. can i make the change happen without rebooting?
[10:55] <unenough> Is there a way to choose the grub option that will be chosen in the next boot , but only ONCE? (next time go back to default)
[10:55] <linux_trojan> I am gonna check out Mythbuntu, brb
[10:55]  * werdnus grumbles
[10:55] <ActionParsnip1> Venin: try restarting alsa
[10:55] <jim_p> unenough: i think kde has an option for it when you reboot
[10:55] <unenough> Or, is there a way to reboot straight into windows from linux?
[10:55] <werdnus>  invoke-rc.d: initscript hal, action "start" failed.
[10:55] <werdnus> dpkg: error processing hal (--configure):
[10:55] <ActionParsnip1> linux_trojan: no need, just install the mythbuntu bits and yu have the same
[10:56] <Venin> ActionParsnip1: alsa-utils?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip1> linux_trojan: you dont need to install a whole new OS
[10:56] <ibmt23> ?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip1> Venin: see what you can find in /etc/init.d
[10:56] <linux_trojan> well the system I want to install it only has Vista
[10:56] <Venin> ActionParsnip1: no alsa
[10:56] <linux_trojan> so I need to install the whole OS
[10:56] <Venin> but alsa-utils
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> Venin: anything similar?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> Venin: try that then
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> Venin: you'll need sudo
[10:57] <RJ2> upgraded to intrepid, after a while the mouse buttons stop working, altho movement still works. keyboard works fine. found a few threads on forums with same problem, no fixes tho. any ideas?
[10:58] <dr_willis> unenough,  ive seen some disrtos have  the logout options that do that.. but not sure how they did it. other then alter the grub menu.lst right befor rebooting.
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> RJ2: you running compiz?
[10:58] <RJ2> ActionParsnip1: no
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> RJ2: good that can cause that
[10:59] <unenough> Also: bug? restart doesn't really work. computer reboots and gets stuck just before loading grub
[10:59] <RJ2> ActionParsnip1: i have an nvidia card, but compositing doesnt work due to the nvidia driver bug
[10:59] <jokeusa> Hello. Is it normal that a normal user in ubuntu can f.ex add/remove devices, change proxy settings and similiar stuff, W/O knowing the admin/root password?
[10:59] <Venin> ActionParsnip1: still no sound :p
[10:59] <remoteCTR2> rww:  is it a good idea to install the nvidia restricted driver from their homepage?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> RJ2: try xev in terminal to see if mouse click is recognised
[10:59] <remoteCTR2> rww: cos kubuntu definitely dont recon my card
[11:00] <ActionParsnip1> Venin: id just reboot when its next convenient
[11:00] <col_panik> joekusa if they have administrative rights assigned then yes
[11:00] <scientes> anyway tp turn off al the compiz animations
[11:00] <remoteCTR2> is it a good idea to install the nvidia restricted driver from their homepage? cos kubuntu definitely dont recon my card
[11:00] <jim_p> !putty