[00:00] <smw> pragmaticenigma, I know nothing about dell c400's. What problem are you having?
[00:00] <sebsebseb> ZenGuy: 9.04 great Ubuntu release, except for a little feature that really got at me by default, but yeah no longer supported, but that probably also means other distros that were based on it
[00:00] <pragmaticenigma> I've always had trouble with the graphics drivers
[00:00] <ZenGuy> sebsebseb: Should I remain with the stable version or go woth the beta?
[00:00] <pragmaticenigma> I was able to get 10.04 installed with using i915.modeset=0
[00:00] <smw> pragmaticenigma, what happens when you put in the disk?
[00:00] <sebsebseb> ZenGuy: oh of test disk, I guess try the stable first,  then you could try beta later as well if  not recoverd or whatever I guess
[00:00] <smw> pragmaticenigma, and that does not work now?
[00:00] <pragmaticenigma> but that same idea is not working with 10.10
[00:01] <smw> pragmaticenigma, what happens?
[00:01] <pragmaticenigma> I've tried that, I have also tried nomodeset
[00:01] <iflema> ~
[00:01] <pragmaticenigma> In both cases, X server fails to load
[00:02] <smw> pragmaticenigma, what is the video card?
[00:02] <smw> pragmaticenigma, lspci | grep vga
[00:02] <pragmaticenigma> The Dell C400 is a compact laptop running an Intel 82830 integrated graphics chip
[00:02] <smw> pragmaticenigma, lspci | grep -i vga
[00:02] <smw> pragmaticenigma, ok
[00:03] <sebsebseb> ZenGuy: also test disk and I guess maybe photorec as well, seem to only work on partitions that have been deleted,  what happended to yours anyway?
[00:03] <smw> pragmaticenigma, I am very sorry, I need to go
[00:03] <pragmaticenigma> I will have to boot it up here in a second with the Live disk running
[00:03] <ZenGuy> sebsebseb: i'm using testdisk now to back up the linux partition
[00:03] <pragmaticenigma> okay smw... thanks for your help
[00:04] <ish_> hey do u guys know of a program that can find the rgb value of any color on ur screen?
[00:04] <ZenGuy> I thought i deleted a video file but another windows with always on top was in the way so i stupidly confirmed...turns out I deleted my entire download folder sebsebseb
[00:04] <datadude> ish_: Take a screenshot and open in GIMP.
[00:04] <datadude> Hello, everyone!
[00:05] <sebsebseb> ZenGuy: oh
[00:05] <blackshirt> datadude: hello
[00:05] <ZenGuy> datadude: hey that's a neat trick to remember
[00:05] <pragmaticenigma> if you are trying to capture screen colors in your web browser there are plugins for firefox that work
[00:05] <datadude> First time in the channel: is this an advanced topics only channel, or are help requests permitted?
[00:05] <sebsebseb> !ask | datadude
[00:05] <ZenGuy> datadude: i think everythoings goes
[00:07] <pragmaticenigma> guess datadude doesn't have a question
[00:07] <CIDR> I'm looking around on a guide to load balance, I know bonding isn't possible, multiple dhcp connections.  Any ideas?  Looking for a local linux solution, don't need to provide routing.
[00:07] <Skater0Guy> how do i fix this ^[[Askaterguy@skaterguy-A7N8X2-0:~$ sudo visudo
[00:07] <Skater0Guy> >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 22 <<<
[00:07] <Skater0Guy> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 22
[00:07] <Skater0Guy> sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[00:07] <FloodBot1> Skater0Guy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:08] <datadude> Thanks, guys. I'm an Ubuntu user who just switched to OS X as my primary OS, and I missed it too much. So I have an Ubuntu 10 virtual machine running, and I'm having a bit of trouble installing the Parallels Tools.  I'm curious if anyone else has run into these problems.  First I tried following the instructions here : http://kb.parallels.com/5560 and tried again, and then I found this : http://kb.parallels.com/4981 . Is it true that
[00:08] <datadude> Ubuntu isn't supported for Parallels Tools any more, or is that out of date? If it is supported, can someone suggest to me how to install it?
[00:08] <n2diy> There are a some webpages that keep timing out on me, at first I thought the websites were down, but this has been going on for a number of days now, other webpages like Yahoo and Google I have no trouble with, I tried pinging the websites and they don't respond, ideas?
[00:09] <charliebucket> has anybody got X working in 10.10 with the Intel i915 video card/driver.  I had to roll back to Lucid.  Maverick booted me right to a console... hmmm.
[00:09] <pragmaticenigma> n2diy, who is your ISP?
[00:09] <pragmaticenigma> I'm having the same issue charlie
[00:10] <n2diy> pragmaticenigma: Blue Ridge Cable/PTD.net.
[00:10] <fiveam> Skater0Guy, log in as root
[00:10] <pragmaticenigma> I've had some limited luck with i915.modeset=0 charliebucket
[00:11] <pragmaticenigma> n2diy: what region of the US are you in?
[00:11] <n2diy> pragmaticenigma: E. Pa.
[00:11] <pragmaticenigma> n2diy: I know that a lot of cable companies are in disputes with various web sites.  What websites are you trying to access?
[00:11] <Skater0Guy> skaterguy@skaterguy-A7N8X2-0:~$ login
[00:11] <Skater0Guy> login: Cannot possibly work without effective root
[00:12] <sixam> Skater0Guy, reboot with --init=/bin/bash and enable root or fix sudoers file
[00:12] <n2diy> pragmaticenigma: odesk.com, and opinionoutpost.com
[00:12] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: What are some things you have tried to make it work?
[00:12] <sebsebseb> !root | Skater0Guy sixam
[00:12] <Skater0Guy> where do i fint the sudoers file
[00:12] <Skater0Guy> find*
[00:13] <sixam> sebsebseb, he killed his /etc/sudoers so locked out from sudo for good
[00:13] <pragmaticenigma> Skater0Guy: you should not access the sudo file directly
[00:13] <charliebucket> pragmaticenigma: I installed Lucid! :)  I needed the box up and working so I just reinstalled Lucid.  I came here to see if it was a known issue or just me.
[00:13] <sebsebseb> Skater0Guy: lets type instead :D  Ubuntu have a thing about root being enabled, sudo is meant to be used instead, however sixam seems to know what he/she is on about so listen to them
[00:13] <pragmaticenigma> Skater0Guy: use "sudo su" to gain access to root
[00:13] <Skater0Guy> well i did sudo visudo to change to no passwd then this started happening
[00:14] <turgon> hello any vim user?
[00:14] <pragmaticenigma> you have to access visudo with root account... you can't use sudo visudo it doesn't work...
[00:14] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: what type of system do you have?
[00:14] <magicianlord> how do you use vi in visudo?
[00:14] <Skater0Guy> my account is root
[00:15] <turgon> how can i run an external program from vim?
[00:15] <charliebucket> pramaticenigma: the box I have the problem on is an ACER 7741Z laptop.  Everything else worked out-of-the-ox.  Under Lucid it all works.  Wonder what happened to the video?
[00:16] <sixam> turgon, ! probably
[00:16] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: The most common problem I run into is the Graphics Accelerator being detected as a false positive
[00:16] <Trea> is anyone able to help me out for a few minutes getting ubuntu dual booted?
[00:16] <sixam> Trea, with what?
[00:16] <magicianlord> Trea: in installer, it does it
[00:16] <turgon> sixam, yes it does... but i have a problem with it: it anytime i reexecute the program, i still see the previous results
[00:17] <pragmaticenigma> setting nomodeset and/or i915.modeset=0 stops the kernel from trying to autodetect card settings
[00:17] <charliebucket> pragmaticenigma: Thanks...I'll give that a try...
[00:17] <sirninja> I'm having trouble with my wireless frequently disconnecting and not reconnecting after that
[00:18] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: I have a Dell C400 laptop, right now I set it up with CentOS 5.5 just to get it running
[00:18] <mickster04> sirninja: howgood is signla strength
[00:18] <sixam> Trea, do you have other OS installed already? what's your partition configuration?
[00:18] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: only problem is CentOS is really outdated at the moment
[00:18] <sirninja> mickster04: It's good, I'm right next to the router
[00:18] <mickster04> sirninja: and i don't suppose it's a new router?
[00:19] <charliebucket> pragmaticenigma: I'm very happy with Lucid, esp since it's a LTS  But I don't want to fall too far behind the release schedule...  Thinking of maybe leaving Ubuntu.  Any recommendations?  Maybe straight Debian?
[00:20] <mickster04> charliebucket: i've heard good things about debian for reliability, arch for customisation, fedora for, well what do you want from your OS?
[00:20] <sixam> !pm | Trea
[00:20] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: I don't think there is a safe bet... I haven't looked up your exact specs on your machine, but guessing any of the newer editions are going to give both of us trouble
[00:21] <njbair> has anybody else experienced issues with the Ubuntu One contacts feature in evolution? I keep getting "other error" notifications when I try to change things
[00:21] <charliebucket> I really don't need to update every six months.  My rig is rock-solid and does what I need now.  I just don't wan to miss out on the new developments!!  :)
[00:21] <pragmaticenigma> I have tried OpenSuSE, Ubuntu (Lubuntu, Kubuntu) 10.10, Fedora
[00:21] <pragmaticenigma> all have them fail
[00:21] <himanshu> how to uninstall a software using cmd line? dpkg -purge <pks name>
[00:21] <himanshu> ?
[00:21] <datadude> Aha, looks like Ubuntu Forums answered my question re: Parallels.  What a ripoff! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1475607&page=2
[00:21] <sixam> dpkg -r <package>
[00:21] <himanshu> ok
[00:21] <jrib> charliebucket: so what you're saying is you want new software but don't want to install it?  :P
[00:21] <mickster04> charliebucket: i don't think you will, i mean you can still get the latest updates etc from an lts, thats the point of it, it is long term supported
[00:21] <foobaru> charliebucket: Depends on what you like. If you want bleeding edge use Fedora or rolling release like arch or Debian testing
[00:21] <GEEGEEGEE> is there something to make an image of a disk but to a remote ftp server instead of a local hard disk
[00:22] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: I wouldn't worry about missing out on anything... lately I have seen most developers offering their own ppa's for installing software directly from their own maintained repos
[00:22] <sirninja> mickster04: are you still here? Sorry, my wireless disconnected again
[00:22] <sixam> how to download *.deb from repo?
[00:22] <jrib> sixam: why?
[00:22] <mickster04> sirninja: humm, how new is the router in question (and the laptop for that matter)
[00:22] <pragmaticenigma> pidgin is one of them that I installed their PPA just so I can have the latest edition
[00:22] <turgon> when i run a program in vim using "!" how can i clean the buffer?
[00:22] <mickster04> sixam: you don't you install the software using apt get?
[00:22] <sirninja> mickster04: it's at my university. I seem to only have this problem in my dorm unfortunately
[00:22] <jrib> turgon: #vim
[00:22] <Trea> I have ubuntu loaded on a disk right now and I want to dual boot it with my current OS.  I tried going through the setup and when I select the drive i want to install it on and select the amount of space to get it I get a message saying I haven't selected the root I do believe it said.  Right now I'm running it off the cd just to get on here and get some assistance
[00:22] <ZenGuy> he's doing it wrong
[00:23] <sixam> jrib because apt-get and aptitude think my system has broken dependencies and stop
[00:23] <charliebucket> I agree.  I've got a Hardy Heron box at work that's till humming along great...  I guess I don't *have* to upgrade just because there's a new version available
[00:23] <turgon> #vim
[00:23] <mickster04> sixam: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade;
[00:23] <jrib> sixam: you should pastebin exactly what you are running and the full output so the channel can help you
[00:23] <pieces029> does anyone have a good way to stream video from a webcamera on a ubuntu box to a webpage?
[00:23] <GEEGEEGEE> is there something to make an image of a disk but to a remote ftp server instead of a local hard disk
[00:24] <turgon> jrib, i dont get it?
[00:24] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: it's always great to have the latest bleeding edge... but sometimes stability is worth the sanity
[00:25] <ir1844> how do i mount a cd rom and sony burner?
[00:25] <sirninja> mickster04: do you know where I could possibly see a log of what's going wrong? It sometimes causes nm-applet to crash. That might be enough to get me started to finding the solution
[00:25] <ir1844> how do i mount a cd rom and sony burner?
[00:25] <sixam> apt-get complains about broken dependencies (unrelated to package being installed) and stop doing anything it was asked to. how to get *deb manually?
[00:25] <charliebucket> pieces029:  Have you looked at 'motion'  http://www.chriswpage.com/2009/05/setup-an-advanced-webcam-security-system-with-ubuntu-8-04-and-motion/
[00:26] <pragmaticenigma> GEEGEEGEE: A paid program is Norton Ghost, which will let you upload to an FTP site... though it's not recommended to do anything over the network during a disk imaging
[00:26] <pieces029> charliebucket, no have not will check it out thanks!
[00:26] <pragmaticenigma> it's better to use a spare drive to store the file then transmit it
[00:27] <sixam> something like wget http://archives.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/lucid/pool/f/foobar/foobar_0.0_i386.deb ?
[00:27] <pragmaticenigma> GEEGEEGEE:  There are other solutions out there that allow backing up over the network but they use a setup server/client stup
[00:27] <himanshu> i installed oracle xe 10.2 version. Now i want to re-install (As i lost the passwrd for admin and other user, so i can't use it). Two things: is the only right option left? what is the package name that is to be give nto the dpkg -r command
[00:27] <pragmaticenigma> sixam: if you are having dependencies issues with apt-get you will not be able to install from the .deb file either
[00:27] <GEEGEEGEE> pragmaticenigma, ok, thanks :)
[00:28] <sixam> pragmaticenigma, dpkg -force-depends -i zzz.deb works
[00:28] <pragmaticenigma> yeah, that works but you risk system stability issues or the program not getting the dependencies it requires
[00:28] <sixam> but I don't know how to get repo address for the file
[00:28] <charliebucket> GEEGEEGEE: dd will work over SSH http://daverdave.com/node/65
[00:29] <mickster04> sirninjaI dunno where logs are, /var/logs?
[00:29] <sixam> broken dependencies I have have no relation to what i'm trying to do now
[00:29] <pragmaticenigma> okay
[00:29] <sc30317> does anyone know of a good network diagram tool for ubuntu?
[00:29] <SPooN> anyone used Mint 10 at all?
[00:29] <sixam> btw is there a way to 'remove' package but left its files on disk??
[00:29] <sixam> !mint
[00:30] <sixam> *leave
[00:30]  * SPooN was just looking for opinions
[00:30] <charliebucket> sc30317: have you looked at Dia? http://live.gnome.org/Dia
[00:31] <raskol> How can I change the language used by Ubuntu Software Center to describe applications?
[00:31] <red2kic> sixam: I don't know about apt-get -- but you're talking about downloading the package from the server? (ie, aptitude download pidgin)
[00:31] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: Have you tried Mint 10 on your rig?
[00:31] <sc30317> charliebucket, I have;
[00:31] <Trea> I currently have a HP laptop running windows 7 64bit with 4gb of ram, 320gb hard drive.  AMD Turion II Dual-Core Mobile Processor M520.  I'm trying to get it Ubuntu to dual boot on the hard drive.  When I get there in the installation I select my hard drive and then try to select the amount of space to give Ubuntu and then continue but i get a message saying I didn't select the root even though I selected as high up as I could
[00:31] <sc30317> charliebucket, I was looking for something like this: http://www.networknotepad.com/download.html
[00:31] <sixam> red2kic, aptitude tries to remove some packages instead of downloading what I ask :(
[00:32] <red2kic> sixam: That's awesome. :)
[00:32] <charliebucket> pragmaticenigma: no, I haven't.  I *did* recommend it to a friend since I heard it installs more by default.  I may have to look into that.
[00:32] <hiexpo> Trea, get use to linux first just run live cd
[00:32] <red2kic> sixam: Try again.
[00:32] <Agent001> Pretty impressive laptop trea
[00:32] <TeslaTony> SPooN, My recommendation is to try a USB flashdrive version of whichever Linux distro you want, and install your favorite.
[00:32] <wedwo-> Trea, select the "/" option
[00:33] <SPooN> charliebucket: it comes preloaded with flash & wine, meaning windows users will probably love it
[00:33] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: I think Mint is more interested in operating rather than graphics... I haven't tried it yet
[00:33] <pragmaticenigma> but it might be the solution for both of us
[00:33] <SPooN> TeslaTony: was unaware that you could USB boot Mint
[00:33] <charliebucket> Dumb question, but there's a liveCD version of Mint, ight?
[00:34] <foobaru> charliebucket: Yes
[00:34] <pragmaticenigma> yes
[00:34] <x404x> if i use mc to copy files will i loose long filenames ?
[00:34] <SPooN> Charlotiebucket: yes
[00:34] <TeslaTony> SPooN, If there is a livecd version of it, you probably can. I haven't run into many modern distros that don't work that way
[00:34] <sixam> charliebucket, DVD only
[00:34] <sc30317> charliebucket, ahhhh
[00:34] <sc30317> got it
[00:34] <sc30317> thanks
[00:34] <SPooN> Charlotiebucket: theres also a DVD version
[00:34] <Trea> Agent: thanks
[00:34] <ir1844_> im running ubuntu 10.10 but it did not reconize my cdrom and dvd player what should i do?
[00:34] <himanshu> what is a package in ubuntu jargon. When i install a .deb file, it gets stored in /usr/bin dir (lets say). How do i remove it?
[00:34] <n2diy> pragmaticenigma: I reset my router, and now I can get the webpages.
[00:34] <himanshu> remove means using dpkg to remove it
[00:34] <ir1844_> im running ubuntu 10.10 but it did not reconize my cdrom and dvd player what should i do?
[00:34] <sixam> himanshu, dpkg -r <package-name-vithout-version-arch-and-stuff>
[00:35] <SPooN> !mint
[00:35] <pragmaticenigma> n2diy: glad to hear it
[00:35] <Trea> hiexpo: I use linux at work all the time I just wasn't the one to load it.  I wanted to have it on here so at times when I want to bring my work home with me I have a compatible system
[00:35] <pragmaticenigma> n2diy: When I used cable internet I had to reset my modem and router about once a week or every 2 weeks
[00:35] <magicianlord> Trea: what do you need
[00:35] <pragmaticenigma> for similar problems with website access
[00:35] <ir1844_> im running ubuntu 10.10 but it did not reconize my cdrom and dvd player what should i do?
[00:35] <sixam> Trea, try WUBI install, it's safest option
[00:36] <Jef91> Anyone here know there way around the Ubiquity installer well? I am trying to add SLiM login manager support to it
[00:36] <pragmaticenigma> ir1844_ please don't spam
[00:36] <n2diy> pragmaticenigma: roger that, the modem doesn't give me any trouble, but the router acts up once or twice a month. knock knock.
[00:36] <Trea> magicianlord: well I was getting stuck when I was trying to select the hard drive and amount of space to partition off for Ubuntu to run on
[00:36] <sixam> ir1844_, install correspondong firmware?
[00:36] <hiexpo> Trea, i have never seen that dual boot last long
[00:36] <grr> my problem is that my client can not write to a mounted nfs share. the server is exporting the share as rw. does the server's exported directory permissions matter?
[00:36] <ir1844_> what is that?
[00:36] <Trea> sixam: where would I get WUBI install at?
[00:36] <Guest95105> hi guys im trying to restart crond in ubuntu but im getting this error
[00:36] <Guest95105> root@blurr:/etc/init.d# cron start
[00:36] <Guest95105> cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 26071: Resource temporarily unavailable
[00:37] <valentino_tuga> hi. Iḿ trying to change DNS server in resolv.conf file but, each time i start a new connection networkmanager resets and changes the DNS. is there a solution?
[00:37] <pragmaticenigma> n2diy: Until I got my Motorola Surfboard (don't recall the model) I had to reset the modem to get the memory buffers to empty
[00:37] <sixam> Trea, it's EXE file on Linux livecd
[00:37] <Guest95105> what does this meean?
[00:37] <hiexpo> !cron
[00:37] <pragmaticenigma> ir1844_:  Don't ask your question repeatedly in short duration
[00:37] <sixam> valentino_tuga, turn off dhcp?
[00:37] <raskol> !softwarecenter
[00:37] <superman> i read that already
[00:37] <superman> and it didnt work
[00:37] <ir1844_> ok
[00:38] <n2diy> pragmaticenigma: interesting, I'll keep that in mind.
[00:38] <sixam> superman, you have other crond with pid 26071 or ?
[00:38] <superman> i have no idea im new to linux
[00:38] <valentino_tuga> sixam, iḿ newbie. how do i turn off dhcp?
[00:39] <red2kic> valentino_tuga: I'm guessing. If you're using networkmanager, shouldn't you be changing the settings using networkmanager?
[00:39] <grr> having problem with nfs. client can't write, only read. anyone help?
[00:39] <magicianlord> Trea: are you trying to decide how much space to give to ubuntu?
[00:39] <Trea> sixam: I'll look to get that cd but right now I just loaded Ubuntu 10.10 ISO on a disk and am running off that right now, was hoping to get a better idea of where I was going wrong
[00:40] <valentino_tuga> red2kic, i have searched google and they tell me to change resolv.conf file
[00:40] <pragmaticenigma> grr: check your NFS setup, make sure that you are using a username and password... if your machine is able to access the shares without a password, it's likely it's a guest account without write access
[00:40] <superman> hey sixam it says this
[00:40] <superman> root@blurr:/etc/init.d# pidof cron
[00:40] <superman> 26071
[00:40] <sixam> Trea, well, you need to create a partition to install ubuntu to
[00:41] <superman> so cron is already running im assumming but im wanting to restart it
[00:41] <sixam> superman, kill it then
[00:41] <valentino_tuga> how do i turn off dhcp?
[00:42] <red2kic> valentino_tuga: You could do "chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf" so nothing can modify it.
[00:42] <grr> pragmaticenigma: userids and passwords on server and client.
[00:42] <MagicJ> how do I change the screen that is shown as the system boots
[00:42] <Trea> sixam: yea, when it allows me to pick it has my hard drive at the top and then under that all the partitions it currently has.  I selected the highest level and then tried to continue.  Do I need do something else first?
[00:42] <sixam> valentino_tuga, open the wired connection properties in Network manager
[00:42] <coldboot|home> Does anyone know what part of the operating system will automatically mount any anonymous volume, and load up a nautilus window with the mount point in /media/<partition-hash> ?
[00:42] <sixam> "highest level"?
[00:42] <grr> pragmaticenigma: where should userid and password be?
[00:42] <pragmaticenigma> valentino_tuga: you can't turn off DHCP, you can set a static IP address for your network adapter in Network Manager which is effectively the same
[00:43] <valentino_tuga> thanks all
[00:43] <pragmaticenigma> grr: I haven't worked with NFS before... I usually use samba so my windows boxes have easy access
[00:43] <Trea> sixam: I'll leave here and go back through the options and write it all down if it won't allow me to do the dual boot.  I know you can't help much when I'm not giving you good information
[00:43] <sixam> Trea, wait do you have a free disk partition?
[00:44] <grr> pragmaticenigma: I understand that. But I want to learn NFS first.
[00:44] <raskol> How can I change the language used by Ubuntu Software Center to describe applications? It is currently in German
[00:44] <magicianlord> you can resize it
[00:44] <pragmaticenigma> You NFS "server" will need accounts setup on it... usually by default you will have your user accounts that are on the "server" box enabled by default
[00:45] <pragmaticenigma> from your "client" machine you might have to go to your "Places" menu, then go to "connect to..." and then select NFS
[00:45] <pragmaticenigma> I don't have ubuntu running right now, I use Kubuntu
[00:45] <nesto100> Can anyone help me out on enebaling 5.1 analog surround sound on my desktop?  Anyone else having issues? It keeps having my imap inbox disappear with all other subscribed folder. I have to go to "Folder"->Subscriptions and reload that account for them to come back.. and then it disappears 10 minutes later. Any idea?
[00:47] <percious> is it possible in ubuntu to compile libraries as both 32 and 64 bit?
[00:47] <charliebucket> I hate to beat a dead horse, but if I were to load Mint in a virtualbox session and it worked, would that mean the video would work outside of VirtualBox?
[00:48] <nesto100> Can anyone help me out on enebaling 5.1 analog surround sound on my desktop? I'm on Ubuntu 10.04, and the sound's integrated...    <-- There fixed... :P
[00:48] <percious> IE, to have linkable libraries for both bitcounts
[00:48] <pragmaticenigma> isleshocky77: I have never had any luck with evolution, I have had great luck with Thunderbird
[00:48] <sixam> percious, yes, just specify architecture explicitly
[00:48] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: No, VB uses a special custom "hardware" identifier
[00:49] <Irok> There is a metallic ring to all sound. I have no idea what's wrong! Ubuntu 10.10, nvidia ion (sound via hdmi)
[00:49] <Jef91> Anyone here know there way around the Ubiquity installer well? I am trying to add SLiM login manager support to it
[00:49] <charliebucket> Thanks.  Saved me an evening of frustration!
[00:50] <pragmaticenigma> but you never know... Mint 10 might better identify or gracefully setup your graphics
[00:50] <nesto100> Ok, another question since the last one doesn't seem like it's going to be answered....  How can I update SMPlayer
[00:50] <isleshocky77> pragmaticenigma: I've been using Evolution for years now without an issues. Very sad to see it have issues. I put in a bug report into launchpad a couple of days ago, but no response yet.
[00:51] <sixam> Jef91, ubiquity just copies whatever you put on disk...
[00:51] <pragmaticenigma> isleshocky77: I honestly thought the project had been abandoned
[00:51] <meowsus> Does anyone know how to properly configure acpid to work with pm-utils? I run a mini install of ubuntu and i want to make sure my computer suspends and hibernates properly when the lid is closed
[00:51] <grr> pragmaticenigma: problem was that the permissions on the server directory evidently need to support rw . otherwise clients can not write to it.  seems obvious but this was not on my reference.
[00:51] <sixam> pragmaticenigma, no, but only RH work on it
[00:52] <pragmaticenigma> I only use e-mail and a calendar so Thunderbird plus Lightning plug-in works great for me
[00:52] <pragmaticenigma> have it synced with google calendars
[00:52] <pragmaticenigma> and my gmail account
[00:53] <superman> hey sixam
[00:53] <superman> i killed it
[00:53] <superman> but it just came right back up with a  new pid
[00:53] <Jef91> sixam It has a "auto matic login" option box that only works with GDM/KDM/LXDM - not SLiM
[00:53] <djGentoo> Hey, I can't get my 10.10 partition to boot all the way.
[00:53] <djGentoo> It hangs after checking battery state.
[00:53] <tato_42> does anyone know how to move all the icons on the left hand screen to the bottom on 10.10 mav
[00:54] <djGentoo> This is after the upgrade, but I haven't used it for a while.
[00:54] <pragmaticenigma> tato_42: click and drag them there
[00:54] <tato_42> ok thanks i'll give it a try
[00:54] <sixam> Jef91, then that is a slim problem for not following standard
[00:56] <superman> hey guys or sixam why is it doing this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/532691/
[00:56] <isleshocky77> pragmaticenigma: Evolution!?! It's the default PIM for Ubuntu with GNOME
[00:56] <raskol> superman: you killed crond, it didn't delete its own pid file
[00:57] <pragmaticenigma> isleshocky77: Ubuntu is dropping it in the next release I believe
[00:57] <superman> so what am i to do raskol?
[00:57] <shawnboy> How do I change the partition Grub 2 is installed on?
[00:57] <Jef91> sixam You obviously have not looked at the source code for Ubiquity - it has separate entries for each KDM, GDM and LXDM. Not just some "Standard"
[00:57] <isleshocky77> pragmaticenigma: Did Thunderbird ever fix their contact manager? That's why I stopped using it a long time ago.
[00:57] <Jef91> I understand you are trying to help sixam but please be informed :(
[00:57] <raskol> superman: (it uses this file to make sure two cron applications aren't running concurrently and, say, overwriting your good logs with empty ones from the last 500ms)
[00:57] <raskol> superman: try deleting /var/run/crond.pid
[00:57] <raskol> superman: and avoid killing crond in the future
[00:57] <pragmaticenigma> what was wrong with the contact manager?
[00:58] <superman> thanks a lot  raskol it worked  may i ask why what can happen?
[00:58] <raskol> superman: use /etc/init.d/cron restart
[00:58] <shawnboy> anyone?
[00:58] <djGentoo> My 10.10 setup hangs after checking the battery state, I think this is the first boot after upgrading, and I haven't used it in a couple weeks.
[00:58] <shawnboy> moving Grub 2 to different partition?
[00:58] <raskol> superman: Probably not a lot, cron itself is old and heavily focused on not having concurrency problems, but you can lose state and important "transactions" can be interrupted
[00:59] <pragmaticenigma> djGentoo: are you able to post up what you are seeing in the pastebin?
[01:00] <superman> ok raskol  one last question do i save this as a  .sh file? http://www.learncpanel.com/cpanel-tutorials/how-to-setup-load-alerts-on-your-dedicated-server-or-vps/
[01:00] <djGentoo> pragmaticenigma: I'll see if I can get to the logs from here (Windows 7), but I doubt it
[01:00] <djGentoo> It just says "Detecting battery state" and locks up.
[01:00] <djGentoo> This is after disabling the splash, of course.
[01:00] <shawnboy> I need a load alert for my Grub 2
[01:01] <isleshocky77> pragmaticenigma: Do you know if there is a replacement they're going to be using?
[01:01] <isleshocky77> pragmaticenigma: Also, do you have a source or reference that they'll be removing evolution in the next release. Can't seem to find that anywhere.
[01:01] <shawnboy> I hear the price of turkey in germany has increased.
[01:02] <raskol> superman: I'm having problems with that website. It looks like there's a 34-line script lacking a shell type line, then a crontab line, then a line to restart crond
[01:02] <pragmaticenigma> isleshocky77: I haven't found it either... It's something I thought I read in passing a few months ago
[01:02] <shawnboy> otherwise the vinegar in the storehouse is only good on Thursdays.
[01:02] <raskol> superman: You should make a file /root/loadalert with the line:
[01:02] <raskol> #!/bin/bash
[01:02] <raskol> then that 34-line script following
[01:02] <isleshocky77> pragmaticenigma: I can't believe they would remove it since I've never heard of a replacement for it.
[01:02] <raskol> superman: if you trust that website, anyway
[01:02] <shawnboy> I can't believe it either. I'm appalled.
[01:03] <superman> well my ssh its having spike problems and i think its a memory thing
[01:03] <isleshocky77> pragmaticenigma: Has Thunderbirds contact manager gotten any better? (ie multiple address, phones, emails, dates, notes  - full vCard)
[01:03] <Znuff> Hi. Can you start byobu at boot with a program like you used to do with screen? but have the program dispalyed the first tiem you log in?
[01:03] <superman> i wanted to check a script that e-mails me when a process is load
[01:03] <superman> is high
[01:03] <superman> to see if that is the problem
[01:03] <shawnboy> I doubt the problem has anything to do with covering.
[01:03] <pragmaticenigma> not really isleshocky77, it appears that you can set a private and work address
[01:04] <shawnboy> I usually set the common address
[01:04] <djGentoo> pragmaticenigma: No luck on the logs. I remember the last thing it said was "Detecting battery state", though, and it skipped that if I removed the battery.
[01:04] <rizalinux> hello alll.....???
[01:05] <pragmaticenigma> djGentoo: it still stalls with battery removed?
[01:05] <shawnboy> rizalinux: forget it. nobody here interested in interacting.
[01:05] <djGentoo> Yes, but it doesn't show the message, just the ones before it.
[01:06] <pfifo> how can I fix this 'libssl-dev : Depends: libssl0.9.8 (= 0.9.8o-1ubuntu4) but 0.9.8o-1ubuntu4.1 is to be installed' im on 10.10
[01:06] <isleshocky77> pragmaticenigma: I'm going to check out this. Looks promising. http://mozillalabs.com/messaging/thunderbird-contacts/
[01:06] <shawnboy> this channel sucks tonight. how worthless and rude to not even acknowledge anyone.
[01:06] <ubuntu> hola
[01:07] <sixam> pfifo, try sudo apt-get update first
[01:07] <pragmaticenigma> isleshocky77: that would be really cool if I could get that to sync with google contacts
[01:08] <pfifo> sixam, same error
[01:08] <superman> hey raskol in ssh it says this
[01:08] <CIDR> I have multiple internet connections that I use iproute2 for multi-wan/round-robin.  The problem is the connections aren't all that reliable and go up and down.  I'd like to write a script to ping say google/yahoo, determine weather the router is up or not, then adjust the default route according.  I've tried a few starts on it, but I'm not getting anywhere.  Any suggestions?
[01:08] <superman> root@blurr:~# bash loadalert
[01:08] <superman> sort: open failed: +2: No such file or directory
[01:08] <superman> sort: open failed: +3: No such file or directory
[01:08] <superman> root@blurr:~#
[01:08] <isleshocky77> Yes. I have ~500 contacts with lots and lots of details which sync between google, evolution, and my phone.
[01:08] <FloodBot1> superman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:09] <superman> what does that mean?
[01:09] <pragmaticenigma> superman: the url that FloodBot has sent you is where you should have posted your earlier messages
[01:10] <Irok> I made a /etc/asound.conf, lost sound, deleted the asound.conf, rebooted, but still have no sound. What can I do?
[01:10] <tory> Where can i find a good #Java channel on freenode? ##Java says i have to be invited to join the channel
[01:10] <pragmaticenigma> then posted the link it gives you at that site back here
[01:10] <raskol> tory: you need to register w/Freenode
[01:10] <sixam> pfifo, do you have security updates repository enabled? the site says maverick has ...-4.1 version
[01:10] <djGentoo> pragmaticenigma: Any suggestions?
[01:10] <red2kic> tory: For starters, register your nickname
[01:11] <sixam> http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/libssl-dev
[01:11] <pragmaticenigma> I'm not sure djGentoo... I don't think it's something to do with your battery... it's what ever is trying to load afterwards
[01:11] <tory> done but i forgot how to login
[01:11] <tory> "/msg or something?
[01:11] <pragmaticenigma> what was the last thing you did with the machine before this happend?
[01:11] <pfifo> sixam, no way, that update popup is the most annoying thing ever
[01:12] <djGentoo> pragmaticenigma: With Ubuntu, upgraded from 10.04. Then I just left it alone and went back to Windows for a while.
[01:12] <superman> im sorry prag / guys here is the script + the ssh error http://paste.ubuntu.com/532694/
[01:12] <djGentoo> I'll try to see what the next step of the boot process is.
[01:13] <bawn> bawn is in da house
[01:13] <bawn> who has problems, i'm here for ya bud
[01:14] <Ste4lth> i have problems
[01:14] <bawn> yes?
[01:14] <jstoone> hi guys, we're two buddies playing around with circuit board we made in school, it has a 7 sigment LED display on it, do any of you know how to output to it? it's connected to /dev/ttyUSB0 with a USB to Parallel&Seriel converter..
[01:14] <Ste4lth> tell me how to stop all network connectivity on ubuntu without stopping the actual card, packet wise, i don't want ANYTHING going through until i start a program
[01:14] <pragmaticenigma> djGentoo: I have a feeling you might have to re-install
[01:14] <djGentoo> Ugh.
[01:14] <pragmaticenigma> maybe bawn knows
[01:14] <red2kic> Irok: http://imadethisdesign.blogspot.com/2009/11/htpc-zotac-ion-n330-xbmc-vdpau-1080p.html ?
[01:15] <bawn> im thinking
[01:15] <djGentoo> Installing in the first place was kind of a pain in the ass, especially getting my NVidia card working, so I'm trying to avoid it.
[01:15] <magicianlord> Ste4lth: yo
[01:15] <magicianlord> djGentoo: nvidia is easy
[01:15] <pragmaticenigma> ubfw is your answer Ste4lth
[01:15] <magicianlord> djGentoo: i can help you
[01:15] <djGentoo> Irok: What's the problem again?
[01:15] <Ste4lth> ubfw?
[01:15] <bawn> Ste4lth, what exactly do you mean by the card being on packet wise
[01:15] <djGentoo> magicianlord: I figured it out eventually, there was a walkthrough.
[01:15] <Ste4lth> bawn: i mean, start up wireshark, see nothing going through other than the network discovery, etc...
[01:16] <Ste4lth> bawn: no outgoing packets
[01:16] <bawn> okay
[01:16] <djGentoo> magicianlord: http://code.google.com/p/vaio-f11-linux/wiki/NVIDIASetup <-- This was what did it for me.
[01:16] <bawn> i happen to use wireshark
[01:16] <afeijo> how can I map a network drive (my host disk) thru ssh ?
[01:16] <Chaos2358> hey guys i am running 10.10 on a laptop and have the laptop connected to a 46 in television via s-video cable. i have great picture but the text is a little small. I have tried desktop zoom function from compiz and it apparentlly isnt compatible with video out and i have also tried changing the screen resolution. when i change resolution the text is enlarged but the second monitor "television" flickers really really badly. any ideas on how to either fix
[01:16] <Chaos2358>  this or an app i can use to get same results?
[01:16] <blind> hey i keep losing audio in flash videos... i downloaded the latest from adobe, then found out chrome uses its own flashplayer.so so i replaced it with the one i downloaded from adobe. makes for a much smoother experience, but im still losing audio randomly..
[01:16] <djGentoo> red2kic: That link might help you/Irok too, I'm using a GT330M too.
[01:17] <Trea> sixam: I just went back through and wrote everything down
[01:17] <sixam> how nautilus guesses filetype for files without extensions?
[01:17] <magicianlord> djGentoo: all you do is this. dl it from nvidia.com and save it to your home dir. nano into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and add "blacklist nouveau" and "blacklist nvidiafb" then save and reboot. hold shift while booting to enter grub2 menu and select recovery mode. drop to root prompt. init 3. then log in with regular account and "sudo sh NVIDIA..." installer. let it xconfig and done.
[01:17] <pragmaticenigma> brb folks
[01:17] <bawn> Chaos2358, do you have the appropriate drivers?
[01:18] <red2kic> Chaos2358: Change Font Size in Appearance Preferences?
[01:18] <Jordan_U> afeijo: sshfs [user@]host:[dir] mountpoint [options]
[01:18] <djGentoo> magicianlord: That failed me about five times over. The walkthrough showed me how to plug in the EDID, and that fixed it.
[01:18] <Irok> djGentoo: I had very metallic sounds in Ubuntu. I.e. I could hear all the sound, but with metallic scratchy noises along with it. So I made a asound.conf, after which I got NO sound, but deleting the file and rebooting didn't help. aplay -D -hw:1,7 path/to/wavfile gives perfect sound though
[01:18] <Chaos2358> when i run the driver program t doesnt find any missing
[01:19] <bawn> Irok, do you have a soundblaster card by any chance?
[01:19] <magicianlord> djGentoo: EDID? oh i c. good to know
[01:19] <Chaos2358> no havent tried font size
[01:20] <bawn> Chaos2358, i happened to have the same problem too, before, and figured out that tv's arent my thing
[01:20] <pragmaticenigma> I had metallic sounds too Irok, but it was only happening in pidgin and just set that to manually output all sounds to aplay
[01:20] <pragmaticenigma> mine is an integrate intel chipset
[01:20] <magicianlord> intel gpu is best for linux
[01:20] <magicianlord> because it's open source
[01:20] <Irok> bawn: nope, nvidia ion 2
[01:21] <bawn> usually that means you need to turn down your volume software wise
[01:21] <magicianlord> goodnight
[01:21] <pragmaticenigma> magicianlord: I beg to differ... I can't get my intel 82830 graphics chip to work in 10.10
[01:21] <aeon-ltd> magicianlord: the performance sucks though
[01:21] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, i have mine working
[01:21] <aeon-ltd> damn. he/she/it left
[01:21] <Chaos2358> ok i tried font size and though it increases it cuts off alot in the window instead of giving me a horizontal scroll
[01:21] <Trea> I'm back, could someone help me get ubuntu to dual boot on my system please
[01:21] <Barridus> is there a linux twitter client that is actually reliable, unlike gwibber?
[01:21] <bawn> trea sure
[01:22] <FloridaGuy> anyone able to please help....??    ....   ??  running ubuntu 10.10....trying to install canon printer drivers....on cnijfilter-common_2.90-1_i386.deb...i keep geting ..there seems to be a programming erorr in aptdaemon....i have uninstall it and all its dendencings and reinstalled and still geting the samething ?? i need my printer
[01:22] <Trea> bawn: mind if I im you, I've got all the details of the last time i ran through the setup
[01:22] <timposey> Ubuntu 10.04 was working fine this morning, turned it on when I got home and boots up normally and enters desktop, but says networking disabled and I cannot click on anything with the mouse on the menu bar.  Nothing will work, I can click on icons on desktop and they will open, anyone got any idea?
[01:22] <pragmaticenigma> how did you get it running, I can't even get the live Cd to work
[01:22] <yagoo> FloridaGuy, you tried install/search for "pcf" with your package manager?
[01:22] <yagoo> FloridaGuy, cups is nice
[01:22] <red2kic> Chaos2358: If possible, use HDMI or VGA when you're outputting to the bigger monitor.
[01:22] <Irok> djGentoo: Ok, I'm progressing. In mplayer, if I specify -ao alsa:device=plughw=1.7 I get perfect sound. How do I make that device the system default?
[01:22] <bawn> Trea, huh?
[01:22] <rusivi> FloridaGuy: Did it work in Lucid?
[01:23] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: how did you get the intel 82830 working?
[01:23] <FloridaGuy> yagoo, no dident do a pcf
[01:23] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, i needed to run forcevideo
[01:23] <Chaos2358> the s-vid is the only thing the tv and laptop share
[01:23] <FloridaGuy> rusivi, dident run lucid
[01:23] <pragmaticenigma> can you post up some sort of instructional or link to a help page?
[01:24] <rusivi> FloridaGuy: may want to try the Live CD of Lucid see if the printer works in it
[01:24] <Chaos2358> no hdmi on laptop and the tv doesnt have the standard monitor plug like most. it has the squared off looking crap sony experimented with
[01:24] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, could you get the terminal to work?
[01:24] <FloridaGuy> yagoo, rusivi i see on the web alot of aptdaemon programming erorrs with no fix's
[01:24] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: Not exactly
[01:24] <Trea> bawn: when I went through the setup on Ubuntu to dual boot it I got to the screen where I allocate the drive space.  It showed my devices in there, I selected /dev/sda which should be the hard drive as a whole.  I said install it said, "No root file system is defined.  Please correct this from partitioning menu"
[01:24] <djGentoo> pragmaticenigma: Could you tell me what the files are in /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d for you?
[01:24] <Chaos2358> brb gonna try rebooting after changing font size
[01:25] <djGentoo> I'm trying ti figure out what the step after battery detection is.
[01:25] <djGentoo> *to
[01:25] <pragmaticenigma> I don't have a laptop running ubuntu at the moment
[01:25] <djGentoo> Anyone else?
[01:25] <djGentoo> I just want a directory listing.
[01:25] <bawn> Trea, that is sorta warning you that you will be using the whole harddrive for single boot
[01:27] <Trea> bawn: ok then which of the devices should I select to get it partitioned?  I also tried to select /dev/sda2 but no luck either, same error
[01:27] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: I can get terminal if I boot with nomodeset
[01:27] <FloridaGuy> rusivi, why try that....download 600 meg when i can install something eles that i know my printer works on
[01:27] <pragmaticenigma> what next?
[01:27] <bawn> Trea, can you take the free space from one of the partitions, and make a new partition with it for ubuntu?
[01:28] <bawn> Trea, and make a new partition
[01:28] <jags> can I partition a flash drive to have a bootable ubuntu on it, and the rest ntfs storage space, I have a 16GB stick, what size should the ubuntu partition be?
[01:28] <djGentoo> Can anyone tell me what files are in their /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d? I'm trying to figure out how to fix my boot sequence.
[01:28] <SPooN> if I have a file on my host computer can I get it on a VM?
[01:28] <blackshirt> hello everybody...
[01:28] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, once you are there, run 'forcevideo', it worked for me
[01:28] <Trea> bawn: i selected /dev/sda2 and said change the partition size of that one, is that where I would do that?  As I was looking the add button was greyed out at this point
[01:29] <trojan_spike> jags, do u mean a live usb?
[01:29] <bawn> yes, Trea
[01:29] <timposey> anyone having trouble with ubuntu 10.04 menu not responding, nothing in the bar at top or bottom of page will respond
[01:29] <pragmaticenigma> how do I make it permanent
[01:29] <pragmaticenigma> when I complete the isntall bawn?
[01:29] <bawn> Trea, you make one partition smaller, while you make room for a new one
[01:29] <Trea> bawn: ok when I went in there I can change the size, but the other options is where I got confused in there
[01:29] <jags> trojan_spike, yes I'd like to have a live usb drive, but I'd like to keep a good majority of the space ntfs, I can partition a flash drive or not?
[01:29] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, it works on livecd, too if you can work it right
[01:30] <Trea> bawn: what would I want to use the partition as?  It gave me a drop down list of options
[01:30] <djGentoo> Can anyone tell me what files are in their /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d? I'm trying to figure out how to fix my boot sequence.
[01:30] <FloridaGuy> i know 10.10 is useing aptdaemon....can i switch back to the older package installer
[01:30] <bawn> FloridaGuy, what do you mean?
[01:30] <pragmaticenigma> I know bawn, but I want to install and have it permenatly work
[01:30] <bawn> FloridaGuy, it's been apt for a long time
[01:31] <trojan_spike> jags, yea u can partition it with ntfs 13GB first,, then use the rest for the iso ubuntu
[01:31] <elijah> I am using Kubuntu 10.10, my mouse keeps disappearing off the screen, is there a way I can keep my mouse on the screen?
[01:31] <djGentoo> Can anyone tell me what files are in their /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d? I'm trying to figure out how to fix my boot sequence.
[01:31] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, once forcevideo is done, you can start the desktop environments and configure further
[01:31] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: I understand that, but what am I configuring?
[01:32] <pragmaticenigma> Obviously network manager isn't going to fix the problem... what programs/applications should I use to make the configuration?
[01:32] <jags> trojan_spike, so I only need 2GB for ubuntu?
[01:32] <bawn> the resolution, by default is usually too high for that chip
[01:32] <jags> trojan_spike, 3GB*, and does that include swap?
[01:33] <Trea> bawn: when I change the size of the drive to partition, lets say I drop it to 225000 then the left over should become a free partition for me to install ubuntu on?  and if so what do I want to use that partition as when I go into the change menu?
[01:33] <bawn> jags, i use 1 gb and it works great with ubuntu
[01:34] <bawn> Trea, you should see some grey area, and you can create a new ext3 or ext4 partition for that new empty space
[01:34] <jags> Is there a security distro of ubuntu, I mean with network tools on a live cd?, or should I look to another distro?
[01:35] <Irok> aplay -D plughw:1,7 etc works, but how do I make that system default?
[01:35] <bawn> Trea, the leftover, essentially is nothing, with no partition whatsoever, unless if you create a new one, or expand the old one
[01:35] <Trea> bawn: ok doesn't matter which one I select then?
[01:35] <blackshirt> jags: what you mean ? backtrack maybe
[01:35] <FloridaGuy> bawn, guess i was thinking of the other part of apt....gdebi.......
[01:35] <jags> blackshirt, yah thats what I was thinking, forgot the name
[01:35] <bawn> trea ext3 is more compatible, and ext4 journals, apparently quicker
[01:36] <Trea> bawn: ok thank you very much I'm gonna give it another go now
[01:36] <blackshirt> jags: you can install security tool under ubuntu
[01:36] <jags> blackshirt, yah i know, I was looking for a something I could use live on a flash drive
[01:37] <SPooN> how do you run executable files...
[01:37] <jags> blackshirt, but forgot what backtrack was called, thanks
[01:37] <djGentoo> Can anyone tell me what files are in their /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d? I'm trying to figure out how to fix my boot sequence.
[01:37] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: I think I missed something with forcevideo... is that something I add during boot?
[01:37] <blackshirt> jags: ok
[01:37] <P2E> I have to disable my laptop buttons (like volume/mute/etc beside my keyboard) before I go insane, can anyone tell me what I need to uninstall?
[01:37] <blackshirt> djGentoo: what the problem with your boots ?
[01:38] <djGentoo> blackshirt: It hangs after the message "Detecting battery state".
[01:38] <djGentoo> It's not the battery, since it hangs without the battery in, just without that message.
[01:38] <sixam> SPooN, specify full path to it in bash
[01:39] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, it is a program that changes resolutions for xorg
[01:39] <pragmaticenigma> not available on the livecd
[01:39] <bawn> trea you are welcome
[01:39] <SPooN> sixam: bash = terminal?
[01:39] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: or is it an argument I place after startx?
[01:40] <jags> Can I put multiple live distros on a single usb stick?
[01:40] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, im pretty sure it's a command built into xorg
[01:40] <jags> meybe install something like grub along with it?
[01:40] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, before
[01:40] <sixam> SPooN, yes
[01:40] <blackshirt> SPooN: what you mean /
[01:41] <pragmaticenigma> I'll see what happens
[01:41] <pragmaticenigma> right now it takes forever in a day to boot off the live on this machine
[01:41] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, good luck
[01:41] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, wait
[01:41] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: what am I waiting for?
[01:41] <xangua> jags: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-multiboot-usb/
[01:41] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, i said it can work on livecd, but it is only for the livecd session
[01:42] <pragmaticenigma> right now if I use the command forcevideo it says it doesn't recognize it as a command
[01:42] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, if you want it to work on the harddrive, you do it on ther, good luck
[01:42] <jags> xangua, thanks much
[01:42] <bawn> hmmmm weird
[01:42] <pragmaticenigma> I can't get ubuntu installed without the GUI bawn
[01:42] <bawn> alt cd?
[01:43] <pragmaticenigma> no, using live DVD
[01:43] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, alternate dvd is for you, if u wanna avoid gui
[01:43] <clutch_> I haven't updated to Karmac Koala but as of recently it boots me into a CLI interface. It was recently doing a fix for the system. Can anyone help me?
[01:43] <pragmaticenigma> whenever I use the alt, I can never figure out how to install Gnome or KDE so I can get somewhere
[01:44] <xangua> pragmaticenigma: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop for gnome, kubuntu-desktop for kde
[01:44] <bawn> gnome is in the ubuntu install pragmaticenigma  not kde, that's just... how it is
[01:44] <pragmaticenigma> I know that
[01:44] <SqlShell__> hi all
[01:44] <djGentoo> Can anyone tell me what files are in their /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d? I'm trying to figure out how to fix my boot sequence.
[01:44] <pragmaticenigma> I was refering to a simple way to install one or the other
[01:44] <SqlShell__> salam
[01:45] <blackshirt> sqlShell: salam alaika
[01:46] <SPooN> !mint
[01:46] <bawn> !ubottu
[01:47] <SqlShell__> what is the best ubuntu10 or backtrack4 ?
[01:47] <pedestrianentran> when I plug in any usb device, my ( ubuntu 10.04) system does not seem to mount the devices. I don't get a shortcut on the desktop and I can't find them in the file system. I have to reboot with the usb device plugged in in order for it to be mounted. Any ideas how to make this stuff work automatically?
 ubtuntu 10.10
[01:47] <blackshirt> SqlShell: it justa based your need...
[01:48] <SqlShell__> i need for hacker hhhhhhhhhh and use backtrak4
[01:49] <xangua> !backtrack > SqlShell__
[01:49] <blackshirt> SpooN: i think ubuntu best for other reason..and maybe not suite for other reason
[01:49] <uncola> pedestrianentran, that's weird, I thought ubuntu automatically mounted usb drives
[01:50] <pedestrianentran> uncola: it used to, until I upgraded to 10.04
[01:50] <blackshirt> SqlShell: just use it...feel free to use it..it's opensource
[01:51] <cain22> hello all
[01:51] <arranon> Hi there. I'm trying to setup ubuntu netbook remix, and it looks like the setup screen resolution isn't supported. Anything I can do?
[01:51] <uncola> pedestrianentran, check this page it has some info on enabling/disabling automounting https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[01:51] <blackshirt> cain22: hello
[01:51] <pedestrianentran> uncola:thanks, Ive been reading that before coming here to ask
[01:52] <cain22> arranon: luck with the unr...its good stuff
[01:52] <uncola> arranon, could you plug the laptop into an external display and try it that way?
[01:52] <gong42> hi, i've been trying to install 10.10 on an intel imac today and i keep getting kernel panics - unable to mount root fs.
[01:53] <xrdodrx> Has anyone figured out how to resolve this Gnibbles bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/654272
[01:53] <SqlShell__> thinks  ubottu and  blackshirt
[01:53] <Beloved_One> hi
[01:53] <Beloved_One> i got a question
[01:53] <The_Tick> gong42: why would you do that?
[01:53] <xrdodrx> !ask | Beloved_One
[01:54] <pedestrianentran> usb storage devices are not being mounted by my ubuntu 10.04 system.... dmesg gives the following error (sometimes) after plugging in the device:  new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4          and         device not accepting address 6, error -71              ...........any ideas?
[01:54] <Znuff> Some people are serious about gnibbles, lol
[01:54] <gong42> The_Tick, i know i know.  i had to do it at work and i spent all day on it with no success.  still bothering me that i couldn't install an OS :P
[01:54] <Beloved_One> i have vista and of course i want to change over but will my files get erase during installention
[01:54] <SqlShell__> bye
[01:55] <xangua> Beloved_One: if you install ubuntu in all the HD yes
[01:55] <pedestrianentran>  /join #linux
[01:55] <Vic> bonjour
[01:55] <xrdodrx> Znuff, if you're talking about the one that said it's __CRUCIAL__, that's yours truly
[01:55] <The_Tick> gong42: no I mean
[01:55] <The_Tick> gong42: run a vm and put linux in it
[01:55] <Beloved_One> so i would need to store all my data before installention
[01:55] <xrdodrx> Beloved_One, correct
[01:56] <Beloved_One> i dont care about vista anymore
[01:56] <xangua> if you want to install ubuntu in all the HD, yes Beloved_One
[01:56] <Guest28070> est ce que quelq'un serait français et pourrait m'aider pour ubuntu
[01:56] <Beloved_One> ok
[01:56] <Znuff> Beloved_One, or make sure you resize your partition properly
[01:56] <xrdodrx> !fr | Guest28070
[01:56] <Znuff> !fr
[01:56] <gong42> The_Tick, i need to run it natively.  i'm building it for one of the dickhole devolopers.
[01:56] <Znuff> xrdodrx, if it's *that* serious, just recompile it?
[01:56] <The_Tick> gong42: give him a dell
[01:56] <The_Tick> seriously, that's a waste of money
[01:56] <Beloved_One> would it also erase my program files
[01:56] <The_Tick> anyhow
[01:56] <Guest28070> Someone speaks french here?
[01:56] <gong42> believe me, i'd love to
[01:57] <xrdodrx> Znuff, I tried, I have no idea how. Isn't this supposed to be linux for human beings? Just saying.
[01:57] <bill_> how do i get potable apps (.bin) files to execute under Xubuntu
[01:57] <The_Tick> gong42: so what's the problem?
[01:57] <gong42> i have a pile of them to get rid of
[01:57] <The_Tick> gong42: I'll take one :)
[01:57] <xrdodrx> Znuff, we can continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic, if you'd like :)
[01:57] <The_Tick> my mbp died
[01:57] <The_Tick> need one to work on perian and growl
[01:57] <Znuff> Beloved_One, are you familiar with the concept of partitions?
[01:57] <xangua> Beloved_One: if you want to install ubuntu in all the HD, ALL will be erased
[01:57] <gong42> when i try to boot livecd or install, it kernel panics about 2 seconds in with unable to load fs as root
[01:57] <Beloved_One> yes, dual booting
[01:57] <Znuff> xrdodrx, no thx, I'm just saying, you should just recompile your game if it's that serious
[01:58] <Znuff> Beloved_One, You realise what disk partitions are and that they can be resized?
[01:58] <gong42> i tried no acpi, using root=/dev/sr0 or 0b00 since that's the device that shows up before the kernel panic
[01:58] <xrdodrx> Znuff, want to help me? It's not as easy as it looks. I'd have to recompile the whole gnome-games, because the gnibbles package doesn't have its own makefile, etc
[01:58] <gong42> and used both the normal alternate version and the mac alternate version and experienced the same issues
[01:58] <Beloved_One> yes i even know how to triple boot
[01:58] <The_Tick> are you sure it's intel and not ppc?
[01:59] <gong42> yes
[01:59] <xrdodrx> not to mention I am on a netbook, so the time involved in doing that would be crazy
[01:59] <gong42> it's an aluminum (not white) core 2 imac
[01:59] <gong42> 24"
[01:59] <Beloved_One> i will be doing it over my laptop
[01:59] <Znuff> Beloved_One, then just resize your Vista partition(s) and make room for your ubuntu. Then you won't have to erase your data.
[01:59] <CIDR> It's kind of a convoluted question, but basically I have multiple connections/routes.  To use them the default route looks something like, ip route add default nexthop via x.x.x.x dev eth1 nexthop via x.x.x.x dev eth2 nexthop via x.x.x.x eth3 nexthop via x.x.x.x eth4, etc...  There's a number of connections, but they aren't always stable.  I can do like a ping -c 1 google.com -I eth1 && echo ok to get wether or not the interface is up, but how d
[01:59] <CIDR> The only thing I've come up with so far is having if statements for each possibility, but with 4 interfaces you have a TON OF possibility, one up, two up, three up, all 4 up, etc...
[01:59] <Sannya18> hy all
[01:59] <xrdodrx> Sannya18, hi
[01:59] <Znuff> xrdodrx, nah, it's been 3+ years since I compiled gnome, wouldn't be of so much help
[01:59] <GeekyAdam> hi
[01:59] <The_Tick> gong42: this is with 10.10?
[01:59] <xrdodrx> GeekyAdam, hi
[02:00] <Beloved_One> ok will ubuntu have access to my files as well
[02:00] <The_Tick> gong42: if so, try 10.04 ;)
[02:00] <Znuff> Beloved_One, yes
[02:00] <gong42> yeah, i also tried 9.04 and had the same thing
[02:00] <The_Tick> bleh
[02:00] <xrdodrx> Znuff, okay then. I've grown rather attached to the gnome-games over the years, lol
[02:00] <The_Tick> sounds like it's panicing
[02:00] <Beloved_One> ok but if i do the full install i would need to hackup all my files, ok i got it
[02:00] <arranon> is there a boot option i can enter during setup to change the instlaler resolution?
[02:00] <gong42> it installs os x just fine
[02:01] <gong42> i just installed a new 500gb ssd in it, do you think that could have something to do with it?
[02:01] <The_Tick> gong42: try debian
[02:01] <The_Tick> see if it even boots
[02:01] <gong42> well i tried it in another 24" imac with a normal hd and it did the same thing i guess
[02:01] <The_Tick> or some other distro
[02:01] <gong42> even livecd
[02:01] <The_Tick> do they care about what distro it is?
[02:01] <The_Tick> or just that "it's LOONIX!"
[02:01] <zheng> How to set DHCPv6 for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, for DHCPv4, it is: iface eth0 inet dhcp.
[02:01] <gong42> well it must be upgraded to the most recent at some point
[02:01] <gong42> all of the developers are using 10.10
[02:02] <The_Tick> they want a pretty machine with a non-pretty gui
[02:02] <The_Tick> that's irony
[02:02] <xrdodrx> !enter | gong42
[02:02] <xrdodrx> and The_Tick
[02:02] <Beloved_One> lol
[02:02] <The_Tick> xrdodrx: I'm 28, I'm not going to change
[02:02] <The_Tick> I don't see you helping him
[02:02] <Beloved_One> is it possbile to use cs3 or 4 on uvuntu
[02:02] <The_Tick> gong42: anyhow, I dunno man
[02:02] <john38> Anybody here getting sub par performance with Nvidia GTX 470
[02:03] <gong42> yeah i had to put it on a brand new macbook pro just the other day D:
[02:03] <The_Tick> gong42: that's horrible
[02:03] <The_Tick> gong42: maybe it has to do with the firmware?
[02:03] <avelldiroll> gong42: did you check the md5sum of the isos you downloaded ... and checked the CDs ?
[02:03] <xrdodrx> !wine | Beloved_One
[02:03] <Beloved_One> ty
[02:04] <gong42> yes avelldiroll, on all 4 distros i tried
[02:04] <bawn> Beloved_One, try playonlinux
[02:04] <Znuff> Beloved_One, adobe's apps kind of blow under wine.
[02:04] <john38> Beloved_One,  try PlayonLinux
[02:04] <pragmaticenigma> adobe has native apps for linux... what are you trying to run?
[02:04] <bawn> john38, are you copying me?
[02:04] <john38> bawn, what
[02:04] <bawn> lol
[02:04] <john38> bawn, oh.. you already said that
[02:05] <bawn> great minds think quite the same
[02:05] <afeijo> how can I map a network drive (my host disk) thru ssh ?
[02:05] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: I'm grabbing the Alt Install disk... I let you know what happens
[02:05] <Beloved_One> plAYON LINUX?
[02:05] <john38> Beloved_One, find it in software center
[02:05] <john38> Anybody here getting sub par performance with Nvidia GTX 470
[02:06] <xangua> !manual | Beloved_One
[02:06] <raidel> i can't install google earth
[02:06] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, if im still on here that is
[02:06] <xangua> raidel: just give permitions to run like a program to the bin (tight clic>properties) and.....run it
[02:06] <xrdodrx> Has anyone figured out how to resolve this Gnibbles bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/654272
[02:07] <Beloved_One> TY I HOPE TO MAKE LINUX MY MAIN OS
[02:07] <bawn> Beloved_One, playonlinux is one word, if u wanna install it run 'sudo apt-get install playonlinux'
[02:07] <Beloved_One> I WILL CHECK IT OU
[02:07] <Beloved_One> OUT
[02:07] <xrdodrx> !caps
[02:08] <djGentoo> Can anyone tell me what files are in their /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d? I'm trying to figure out how to fix my boot sequence.
[02:08] <Beloved_One> ok
[02:08] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: I doubt I will get a chance to install it tonight
[02:09] <tripelb> how do I make VLC be my default for video files?
[02:09] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, the partition thing in alt install is a bit scary, so use gparted first, if u need a partition
[02:09] <pragmaticenigma> I just don't understand how the Alt CD is going to work any better than the regular disk
[02:09] <xangua> tripelb right clic> properties> open with
[02:09] <pragmaticenigma> I'm familiar with the partitioning... really only need to setup swap and a root partition
[02:10] <avelldiroll> tripelb: right clic on a video file > properties > open with > select vlc
[02:10] <avelldiroll> art ... late ...
[02:10] <Znuff> pragmaticenigma, the alternate install doesn't depend on certain modules like the live one does... it's kind of a fail-safe install
[02:11] <cynfab> testing weechat
[02:11] <jags> is there a good non command line program like winrar for linux? Archive manager can't seem to open rar files
[02:11] <pragmaticenigma> I know bawn has been a great help, but I will ask it again since some new faces are here... right now we are attempting to install the Alt CD to attempt a different way to get X and Gnome running... has anyone here had difficulties with intel 82830 integrated graphics chips ?  (Dell c400 pentium 3)
[02:11] <neiz> is there a ventrilo client for ubuntu?
[02:11] <cynfab> testing weechat
[02:12] <xrdodrx> !info unrar | jags
[02:12] <GeekyAdam> neiz: mangler?
[02:12] <Sannya18> i like join to a (open source)game developer team. can anybody help me?
[02:13] <xrdodrx> Sannya18, as your first order of business, fix gnibbles ;)
[02:14] <ge0rge0000> hello all! I have problem with emoticons at amsn,i can't see anyone! Some friends send me many emoticons and the only thing i can see is a blank space.
[02:14] <ge0rge0000> has anyone this problem?
[02:14] <zheng> How to set DHCPv6 for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, for DHCPv4, it is: iface eth0 inet dhcp.
[02:14] <xangua> neiz: did you install rar unrar ¿
[02:14] <The_Tick> ge0rge0000: talk to amsn people
[02:14] <xrdodrx> Sannya18, in all seriousness, go to open source games' pages that you already play, most of them you can get started right away by contributing code
[02:14] <tripelb> avelldiroll, yes, that is what I am doing now to play with VLC. I guess I will continue itt.
[02:15] <Tweaky> hi. ive noticed in terminal when i get a ls or dir of a large directory when i scroll up it doesnt show all of it just some. how do i change this to veiw it all
[02:15] <Znuff> Sannya18, try Warsow!
[02:15] <Sannya18> xrdodrx: you know someone?
[02:15] <xrdodrx> ge0rge0000, you may be better helped in #amsn
[02:15] <Sannya18> thx
[02:15] <jags> is there anyway to quickly get the filepath that your currently @ in nautilus onto the clipboard, so it can be pasted into a terminal?
[02:15] <Znuff> Sannya18, or OpenTTD!
[02:15] <elijah> If I remove the proprietary driver (nvidia) do I have to restart or logout in order to use the FOSS driver?
[02:15] <ge0rge0000> there is noone here ,thats why i asked here
[02:15] <uncola> so I'm going to install ubuntu server to create a NAS..  should I just use EXT4 for my hard drives or is there a better file system I should use?
[02:16] <xrdodrx> ge0rge0000, actually, there's 24 people there
[02:16] <Znuff> uncola, you should use a simple distribution like FreeNAS if you want just a nas
[02:16] <Beloved_One> hmmm question is their a way i can store like gbs of files on the web until i am done installing
[02:16] <kotu> Hello! Do you know a simple way to use notebook as a second screen? I've got it connected to my PC using LAN. On each machine I've got Ubuntu 10.10/Gnome desktop
[02:16] <ge0rge0000> i mean there is noone at the keyboard
[02:17] <xrdodrx> !ubuntuone | Beloved_One
[02:17] <Znuff> kotu, Synergy?
[02:17] <hurstman54> My audio is broken.  If I play enough videos it somehow manages to fix itself.  But audio breaks again when my laptop goes into standby or if I shut the laptop.  any suggestions
[02:17] <uncola> Znuff, I don't think freenas would be good for me because I need to run SABNZBD on it and I don't think it's easy to set up for freenas
[02:17] <avelldiroll> tripelb: you might have missed the "properties" part of the procedure: right clic on a video file > PROPERTIES > open with > select vlc
[02:17] <xrdodrx> Beloved_One, there's also dropbox and e-mailing stuff to yourself on gmail
[02:17] <Tweaky> is there any way to increase the amout of up-scroll cache kept in a terminal window?
[02:17] <Znuff> *wonders why do people still use newsgroups*
[02:17] <sofaking88> Hello everyone. I have a linux mint question. Is that acceptable here?
[02:17] <lee__> sure
[02:17] <Znuff> sofaking88, that depends, try to ask it first
[02:18] <bawn> hurstman54, does it work with headphones?
[02:18] <GeekyAdam> Tweaky: right-click in terminal, properties
[02:18] <hurstman54> no
[02:18] <macrophage001> Do any of you have any experience with thc-hydra?
[02:18] <IdleOne> !mintsupport | sofaking88
[02:18] <Beloved_One> ok ty xrdodrx its hard since i dont have an eternal hd
[02:18] <xrdodrx> sofaking88, the distros are pretty much the same. unless you have an issue with a specific UI element of linux mint, you should be able to be helped here
[02:18] <GeekyAdam> macrophage001: i do a little but no one here will help with it
[02:18] <IdleOne> Linux mint is not supported in this channel.
[02:18] <bawn> hurstman54, seems like a hardware failure, but i could be wrong, but i cannot help you further
[02:18] <Tweaky> GeekyAdam: i feel dumber now lol.. thanks
[02:18] <macrophage001> GeekyAdam: can you help me?
[02:18] <lee__> just ask the mint question
[02:19] <bawn> sofaking88, what's your question
[02:19] <kotu> Znuff: that's I was looking for :] thx
[02:19] <sofaking88> Stupid question actually - Can I update from 9 to 10 from a flash drive... I don't have any blank cds
[02:19] <lee__> yes you can
[02:19] <lee__> its called a live cd
[02:20] <lee__> i mean
[02:20] <lee__> live usb
[02:20] <bawn> you can do it without either i believe
[02:20] <sixam> had the random corription of files >512 MB on ext4 been fixed?
[02:20] <P2E> sofaking88: why not just use the internet?
[02:20] <SPooN> SPooN is now AWAY
[02:20] <Znuff> kotu, you can't move apps from one to another, btw, but it will help you control 2 or more computers with just one mouse and keyboard
[02:20] <lee__> im pretty sure mint has to be done with a clean install
[02:20] <Chris____> is this the right place for an installation question ?
[02:20] <lee__> sure chris
[02:20] <lee__> ask away
[02:20] <sofaking88> P2E: I don't want to sign up on any forums >.>
[02:20] <macrophage001> Do any of you know where I can find some help on this?
[02:20] <Chris____> ok, i bought this thinkpad X60
[02:20] <xrdodrx> !google | P2E
[02:21] <lee__> sokaking you can install it on a live usb
[02:21] <lee__> download a program called unetbootin
[02:21] <sofaking88> but uh... how about the package manager?
[02:21] <Chris____> and I had ubuntu 10.10 32 bit on it
[02:21] <Chris____> anyways, decided to upgrade to a SSD
[02:21] <lee__> no you cant upgrade mint from the package manager
[02:21] <lee__> you have to clean install
[02:21] <Beloved_One> wat u think about google os
[02:21] <Chris____> and well, not it just won't boot
[02:21] <IdleOne> lee__: take the mint support elsewhere please
[02:21] <Chris____> mint ?
[02:22] <lee__> hes just asking
[02:22] <IdleOne> lee__: and I told you it is not supported here
[02:22] <IdleOne> so you are offtopic.
[02:22] <lee__> well tell him that then
[02:22] <IdleOne> I did
[02:22] <lee__> okay sir
[02:22] <P2E> sofaking88: I was referring to the update manager in an already-installed situation.
[02:22] <P2E> xrdodrx: ^
[02:22] <IdleOne> you made yourself king and rule maker when you told him to ask anyway.
[02:23] <Znuff> IdleOne, and except you.. who's minding about supporting mint? even though it's based on ubuntu?
[02:23] <lee__> its based on ubuntu dude its almost exactly the same thing
[02:23] <IdleOne> Znuff: it is channel policy. Mint is NOT Ubuntu even though it is based on it.
[02:23] <xangua> Znuff lee__ just stick to the topic...... ¬¬
[02:23] <lee__> okay
[02:23] <lee__> so what is todays topic
[02:23] <Znuff> And Kubuntu is not ubuntu, right?
[02:23] <IdleOne> Ubuntu support as always
[02:24] <gogeta> Znuff: mint has there own irc for support
[02:24] <lee__> kubuntu is ubuntu
[02:24] <sofaking88> P2E: Update manager doesn't do anything :/
[02:24] <The_Tick> ok, so where does he get mint support?
[02:24] <IdleOne> !mintsupport
[02:24] <Znuff> And mint is ubuntu with another GUI ontop. Stop being assholes.
[02:24] <xrdodrx> lol@fragmentation of things that are almost exactly the same
[02:24] <IdleOne> Znuff: watch your language
[02:24] <Znuff> I give a fuck.
[02:24] <gogeta> Znuff: mint is built diffrent then ubuntu go look at the mint site
[02:25] <Tweaky> anyone know the argument for dir or ls to list all files in subdirectories too
[02:25] <lee__> no mint isnt built differently
[02:25] <lee__> its packaged differently
[02:25] <pragmaticenigma> Mint != Ubuntu just like Fedora != RedHat
[02:25] <gogeta> lee__: same yea
[02:25] <The_Tick> ok, it doesn't matter guys
[02:25] <IdleOne> lee__: Please drop it. it is not supported.
[02:25] <The_Tick> they don't want you talking about mint in here
[02:25] <lee__> lol
[02:25] <lee__> alrighty
[02:25] <IdleOne> thank you.
[02:25] <lee__> yes sir!
[02:25] <mihai_> does anyone know what is the reason for slow loading webpages ? i noticed it happening after 3-4 hours of system uptime,pages like youtube take up to 3-5 mins to load or sometimes it just doesn`t load at all,even google.com takes 1-3 mins to load And i noticed everything going back to normal after i reboot,at least for another 3-4 hours. i`m using ubuntu 10.10
[02:26] <gogeta> pragmaticenigma: i hopw that was to compare the diffrences
[02:26] <pragmaticenigma> yes
[02:26] <sixam> mihai_, something eats your cpu?
[02:26] <mihai_> no
[02:26] <lee__> have you tried a problem with your cable?
[02:26] <Chris____> anyways, is there any reason why ubuntu would install to a laptop regular HD but not a laptop SSD drive, the installer sees it and  all, it pretends to install, but then it doesn't boot
[02:26] <mihai_> sixam, most of the time is below 10-20%
[02:26] <pragmaticenigma> mihai_: Have you rebooted your router and modems lately?
[02:26] <lee__> you have a ssd on your comuter?
[02:27] <Chris____> laptop
[02:27] <lee__> how much is it
[02:27] <sixam> Chris____, define 'doesn't boot'
[02:27] <lee__> like gig
[02:27] <avelldiroll> mihai_: did you test with another browser ?
[02:27] <mihai_> it`s probably been 3 days since i last rebooted my router
[02:27] <mihai_> yes,tested with bout chrome and firefox
[02:27] <Chris____> I mean, I turn it on and it goes to a screen that just shows a dash and stays there
[02:27] <gogeta> mihai_: thats a good one i knoe there suggesting alot but sounds like some sort of networking isue
[02:27] <Chris____> forever
[02:27] <pragmaticenigma> mihai_: what is the make and model of your computer?
[02:27] <napster> The calender and the panel applet has a huge gap in between them. How to fix this problem apart from moving the applet to the top panel?
[02:27] <Chris____> lenovo X60 1706-5DU
[02:28] <mihai_> asus motherbord with intel d cpu
[02:28] <mihai_> gogeta, it works just fine after i reboot
[02:28] <gogeta> mihai_: it sounds like the driver is having problems coming back from being inactiv
[02:29] <pragmaticenigma> Have you recently installed any new applications mihai_?
[02:29] <mihai_> i see,so i should try installing a new driver for my network adapter ?
[02:29] <Skeletal> guy
[02:29] <mihai_> i just reinstalled ubuntu 2 days ago
[02:29] <gogeta> mihai_: well wifi can be buggy if its a lan its another problem
[02:29] <mihai_> it`s on lan
[02:29] <avelldiroll> mihai_: did you try to restart the network instead of rebooting ?
[02:30] <Skeletal> how can I do for SAVE mu current system in VMWARE ? like, for example, make a restore point.
[02:30] <mihai_> avelldiroll, no i didn`t,good idea :-)
[02:30] <gogeta> mihai_: cuple says of doing that
[02:30] <gogeta> ways
[02:30] <UnholyTerror> Skeletal, snapshot
[02:30] <pragmaticenigma> that really isn't going to change anything, restarting the networking is the same as rebooting
[02:30] <pragmaticenigma> just don't have to wait as long
[02:30] <gogeta> pragmaticenigma: its to see if it speeds up
[02:30] <Skeletal> good man! but where's this option:?
[02:31] <lee__> hey guys i have a real question on graphic drivers and what not
[02:31] <Skeletal> I use vmware player
[02:31] <gogeta> pragmaticenigma: and its not the same
[02:31] <mihai_> yeah but then i`ll be sure it`s something to do with my network adapter,right ?
[02:31] <pragmaticenigma> lee__:  just ask your question, don't ask to ask a question
[02:31] <lee__> yes sir!
[02:31] <UnholyTerror> Skeletal, in the preferences
[02:31] <gogeta> mihai_: well something in the network yea
[02:32] <lee__> well on my asus laptop i have the nvidia optimus technology and was wondering if nvidia optimus is supported by xserver
[02:32] <pragmaticenigma> mihai_: Do you run in any applications for BitTorrent or other p2p applications?
[02:32] <gogeta> mihai_: genrely a craling nic = network conflict
[02:32] <avelldiroll> mihai_: it might be your router having a memory leak or else ... did your router always behaved like this ? when/how did the problem appear ?
[02:32] <mihai_> ok,thanks ,i`ll try that and if it does fix it i`ll try installing a different driver
[02:32] <mihai_> yes i use vuze
[02:32] <The_Tick> ok, since nobody in that mint channel is answering
[02:32] <gogeta> mihai_: nic drivers all work fine
[02:32] <gogeta> mihai_: im thinking conflict
[02:32] <SPooN> SPooN is now BACK
[02:32] <mihai_> avelldiroll, no ,it didn`t
[02:32] <The_Tick> what exactly is the difference between ubuntu and mint?
[02:33] <pragmaticenigma> lee__: you may have to install the proprietary drivers to enable those options... I haven't heard anything about that option yet
[02:33] <Skeletal> <UnholyTerror>  I can't find it. I went in FILE and PLAYER PREFERENCER, i can't find nothing there
[02:33] <gogeta> mihai_: just strange it starts hrs later
[02:33] <lee__> i know i install all drivers and what not
[02:33] <lee__> but
[02:33] <ubuntu4shane> what is the simplest virtual machine to use these days?
[02:33] <pragmaticenigma> mihai_: try shutting down vuze and see if the problem improves
[02:33] <ubuntu4shane> vbox?
[02:33] <lee__> whenever i load my system back up
[02:33] <lee__> the screen is just black
[02:34] <mihai_> i haven`t started vuze since my last reboot
[02:34] <gogeta> ubuntu4shane: well virtulbox is free
[02:34] <pragmaticenigma> are you sure it's not running in the background
[02:34] <lee__> so im assuming theres some kind of conflict between intel and the nvidia
[02:34] <mihai_> i`ll keep it this way to test it
[02:34] <lee__> but i cant run my nvidia driver on ubuntu
[02:34] <pragmaticenigma> Do you have two GPUs in your machine lee__?
[02:34] <lee__> yes
[02:34] <lee__> intel and the nvidia
[02:34] <pragmaticenigma> Xserver doesn't support dual GPUs
[02:34] <gogeta> mihai_: normaly a nic well slow to being slow if 2 pcs are rying to use the same subnet or ip
[02:34] <ubuntu4shane> gogeta, I guess that is as simple as any of them, I'm not interested in usb and all that stuff, just need to test a few things
[02:35] <pragmaticenigma> It will pick one or the other, it's currently defaulting to your Intel, but trying to use the Nvidia drivers
[02:35] <Skeletal> Lee_   can you know how run your nvia drive?
[02:35] <lee__> yes
[02:35] <lee__> i know how to run it
[02:35] <gogeta> ubuntu4shane: well the one in the repos does not have usb not one you dl from orcal has usb both install fine
[02:35] <lee__> it just turns to a black screen when i reboot it
[02:35] <mihai_> i only have my desktop and notebook connected to this router and i haven`t used my notebook in 2 days or so
[02:35] <ubuntu4shane> gogeta, does the repo version access web?
[02:36] <lee__> when i install the nvidia drivers my whole system doesnt work
[02:36] <pragmaticenigma> mihai_: Are you sure Vuze is not automatically loading and running in the background?
[02:36] <gogeta> mihai_: has the connecting been stable for those 2 days
[02:36] <Sonja> how do i tell ubuntu to always mount certain network drives when possible?
[02:36] <gogeta> ubuntu4shane: yes only lacks usb support
[02:36] <sloni> is there a way to restore for a new session each time a user logs in. i want to reset all changes my kid does in his login each time logs off, so he starts clean. i'm tired to hunt deleted icons and menu items :)
[02:36] <mihai_> no,i`m having these problems every 3-4 hours
[02:36] <ubuntu4shane> gogeta, ok, thanks!  that will meet what I'm looking for thanks!
[02:36] <mihai_> pragmaticenigma, gonna check the processes in a sec
[02:37] <pragmaticenigma> lee__: It's likely it's trying to use the Nvidia drivers on the intel chip and they aren't compatible.. you might need to check and find out if you can disable the intel somehow in BIOS
[02:37] <mihai_> vuze isn`t running atm
[02:37] <lee__> the only thing from the bios that i can do
[02:37] <lee__> is stop the intel virtualization
[02:37] <lee__> but that doesnt affect the actual chip
[02:38] <pragmaticenigma> what is the make and model of your computer lee__?
[02:38] <gogeta> mihai_: thats a good one nic slowing but only after time has passed normal a conflict is visable immadly
[02:38] <thedangler> anyone have simple instructions on how to get WUSB100-rm wireless stick to work :)
[02:38] <mihai_> yeah,i was just thinking about that,it`s probably some application i`ve been using and not noticing it
[02:38] <lee__> its a Asus k52j series, intel I5 processor, has a nvidia geforce 310m cuda and intel graphics
[02:39] <mihai_> gonna pay more attention and i`ll hopefully find out what`s causing it
[02:39] <napster> The calender and the panel applet has a huge gap in between them. How to fix this problem apart from moving the applet to the top panel?
[02:40] <mihai_> oh,i`ve just remembered,i`ve been playing wc3 with a friend every now and then using garena if any of you is familiar with it,i think that could be the source of the problem
[02:40] <UnholyTerror> Skeletal, search up snapshots in the HELP menu... looks like you have to enable it during VM creation.
[02:40] <gogeta> mihai_: worth a try
[02:41] <dark3lf> hello, I want to know my public ip adress from terminal, is it possible ?
[02:41] <pragmaticenigma> lee__: from the few articles I just googled, it looks like you cannot enable the nvidia graphics chip
[02:41] <pragmaticenigma> your stuck with the intel chip
[02:41] <gogeta> paranoidi: a 310gtx should have closed drivers for linux
[02:41] <lee__> i know thats what i gathered from it too. lol
[02:41] <lee__> but thank you anyways
[02:41] <lee__> its not the drivers
[02:41] <lee__> thats the problem
[02:41] <lee__> its the conflict
[02:41] <gogeta> lee__: your 310 cuda needs linux drivers?
[02:41] <mihai_> thanks for the help,i`ll test a bit to see what triggers it ,good night :-)
[02:42] <lee__> no i installed the drivers
[02:42] <pragmaticenigma> If Ubuntu rumors and promises are true, when they switch to Wayland you won't have that issue
[02:42] <lee__> from the proprietary
[02:42] <lee__> and i tried
[02:42] <lee__> the actual
[02:42] <lee__> nvidia ones from their site
[02:42] <FloodBot1> lee__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:42] <gogeta> lee__: so whats up with the card?
[02:42] <bawn> whats wayland pragmaticenigma
[02:43] <pragmaticenigma> dark3lf: it is possible... I'm not sure how at the moment
[02:43] <lee__> i have intel graphics and i also have a nvidia card. when i try to install my nvidia drivers it works good but when i reboot the system the screen turns black when it goes to load the log-in
[02:43] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: wayland is an alternative to Xorg
[02:43] <Irok> I'm trying to solve a problem with gnome-mplayer and some posts say try SVN of gnome-mplayer
[02:43] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, is it better?
[02:43] <gogeta> lee__: maybe you have to turn off the intel from bios
[02:43] <Irok> I'm trying to solve a problem with gnome-mplayer and some posts say "try SVN of gnome-mplayer". What does that mean?
[02:43] <lee__> i cant though. there isnt an option
[02:44] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: It's supposed to be lighter weight and allow better compatibility with 3d graphics, also it will solve lee__'s issue
[02:44] <gogeta> lee__: option 2 would be genrating a xorg.conf and manuly tell it to use the nivida
[02:44] <Beloved_One> wat is the huge difference between gde and kde
[02:44] <lee__> i did that option also lol
[02:45] <lee__> it didnt do anything. i aslo edited the edid
[02:45] <pragmaticenigma> lee__: the only other option I can think of is you might have to generate an xorg.conf file and specifically find a way to set it up to use the Nvidia full time from there
[02:45] <pragmaticenigma> Beloved_One: There is no such thing as gde
[02:45] <gogeta> paranoidi: yep said he tryed that to
[02:45] <lee__> ill just wait for wayland
[02:45] <Beloved_One> opps typo
[02:45] <lee__> i heard they have compatability
[02:45] <UnholyTerror> Skeletal, but you could always just make a copy of the folder/files too.
[02:46] <lee__> and i already tried to manually edit the xorg
[02:46] <lee__> didnt do much
[02:46] <Gallaeaho> So I'm kinda curious now.
[02:46] <Gallaeaho> Who made the installer for 10.10 so complicated?
[02:46] <lee__> its not
[02:47] <pragmaticenigma> how is it complicated Gallaeaho?
[02:47] <thedangler> is there something in ubuntu to share the internet trhough the ethernet ? like on mac?
[02:47] <Gallaeaho> I'm running a multipartition setup and I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 to one of the partitions
[02:47] <gogeta> lee__: nivida has a fix for your bug
[02:48] <gogeta> lee__: guess the latest drivers from them work
[02:48] <pragmaticenigma> gogeta: it helps if you can post a link for lee__ to follow
[02:48] <Gallaeaho> Normally I'd just click "Install alongside operating system", select my partition and then tell it to use the whole partition instead of installing alongside the other OS
[02:48] <Gallaeaho> But now I don't even get that
[02:48] <lee__> im pretty sure i tried that one but show me the link and ill see it
[02:48] <Gallaeaho> It thinks that my whole drive is one partition
[02:48] <aeMaeth> thedangler, there should be a "share this with other computers" or something similar in your network settings, also there is a ubuntu page for network bridging afaik
[02:48] <gogeta> lee__: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/660596
[02:49] <gogeta> lee__: looks like you need to add nomode set to grub
[02:49] <sdwrage> Hey all,
[02:49] <sdwrage> I moved my system from Windows 7 to Ubuntu and everything works perfectly it seems except the touchpad... this does not work at all. It is an electro-static multi-touch pad for the Sony Vaio VPCEB33FM/BJ Model.
[02:49] <sdwrage> I have the latest version of Ubuntu
[02:50] <pragmaticenigma> sdwrage: it is possible that your hardware is too new and drivers haven't been developed yet
[02:50] <gogeta> lee__: the post rho_t has
[02:51] <lee__> how do you do that
[02:51] <Gallaeaho> Also, my hardware is an Acer Aspire 5810TZ. I'm 64 bit capable but I'm going to install a 32 bit OS. The only reason in doing so is that Adobe Flash does not have a 64-biit driver for its software.
[02:51] <gogeta> lee__: his post says how
[02:51] <sdwrage> pragmaticenigma, how long does it usually take?
[02:51] <Gallaeaho> Can anyone confirm whether this is still the case?
[02:52] <The_Tick> Gallaeaho: you're wrong
[02:52] <The_Tick> there's a beta flash .so
[02:52] <The_Tick> I just installed it yesterday
[02:52] <pragmaticenigma> it takes as long as necassary to reverse engineer the drivers needed or for the maker of the touchpad to release their own drivers
[02:52] <Gallaeaho> The_Tick, interesting
[02:52] <lee__> well i already tried this by editing the grub
[02:52] <lee__> it didnt work
[02:52] <lee__> but thank you
[02:52] <gogeta> lee__: thers more to it
[02:53] <gogeta> lee__: blakclisting nevu edting the corg.cong
[02:53] <lee__> i know it says how to add your customedid to it
[02:53] <lee__> i did the blacklisting
[02:53] <Gallaeaho> One last question. the DVD Drive in this is a TSSTCorp CDDVDW TS-U633A, are there still mount issues with this drive in 10.10 or have they been corrected?
[02:53] <gogeta> xrrg
[02:53] <gogeta> xorg
[02:53] <gogeta> lee__: still bad effect hua
[02:53] <lee__> yes sir lol
[02:54] <lee__> i edited the grub blacklisted, noveau, set to nomodeset and all that jazz
[02:54] <lee__> i just ended up with one hell of a display after that
[02:55] <lee__> i also have one more question
[02:55] <gogeta> lee__: try it without nomodeset then
[02:55] <Kevin_> hey im stuck
[02:55] <Kevin_> i just installed ubuntu 10.10 from the disk
[02:55] <Kevin_> when i boot up it says something like cannot read from disk
[02:56] <Kevin_> and grub rescue comes up
[02:56] <lee__> maybe it got written wrong to the cd
[02:56] <pragmaticenigma> Kevin_: were you trying to do a dual boot system?
[02:56] <Kevin_> no
[02:56] <Gallaeaho> Be right back.
[02:56] <Kevin_> its a new fresh hdd
[02:56] <gogeta> lee__: defently a new bug being people say it works on lucid
[02:56] <DhyE> kevin : have you tried repair with grub??
[02:57] <clutch_> I seriously need help. I have my college essay on Ubuntu but I can't access it.
[02:57] <Kevin_> no not yet
[02:57] <lee__> i know, everyone one lucid says it works now. but funny thing is is that i tried it with lucid and it still didnt work
[02:57] <clutch_> Whenever I try and boot it either hangs at the boot screen.
[02:57] <lee__> i think it has to do with the conflicting intel and nvidia
[02:57] <clutch_> Then it goes into cli
[02:57] <DhyE> kevin ; try repair with rescue cd then repair the grub with grub option
[02:57] <Kevin_> ok
[02:57] <Kevin_> wait
[02:57] <Kevin_> i dont have a rescue cd :S
[02:58] <zakwilson> clutch_: boot from the install disk. You'll be able to access the contents of the hard drive(s)
[02:58] <clutch_> Thanks.
[02:58] <gogeta> lee__: whats is it one of those laptops that uses both
[02:58] <clutch_> Will I be able to fix the partition from there?
[02:58] <lee__> yes
[02:58] <DhyE> kevin ; may u have a fedora instalatuon dvd ?? from there u can repair the grub
[02:58] <lee__> i wasnt answering you clutch
[02:58] <Sabri> How do I see all the dependencies of a package?
[02:58] <Kevin_> no i only have the ubuntu istalation cd
[02:59] <lee__> umm yeah my computer has the nvidia optimus technology so it has both
[02:59] <gogeta> lee__: umm it should defult to the intel then and use the nivida on demand
[02:59] <Kevin_> instalation*
[02:59] <lee__> yes it should, and it is with the intel part at least.
[02:59] <lee__> i have intel graphics just cant use nvidia
[02:59] <gogeta> lee__: it does not switch?
[02:59] <lee__> no
[03:00] <pragmaticenigma> gogeta: Xorg doesn't support automatic switching yet
[03:00] <pragmaticenigma> you have to restart X in order to switch GPUs
[03:00] <gogeta> pragmaticenigma: yea but his black screens on boot
[03:01] <DhyE> kevin : an ubuntu live cd?
[03:01] <lee__> yes it blacks on boot
[03:01] <gogeta> lee__: does it blacksceen after driver install or after you try to force the nivida
[03:01] <lee__> after i install nvidia
[03:02] <lee__> well its not right after
[03:02] <lee__> its after i do the restart to complete upgrade
[03:02] <gogeta> lee__: we may be going backwords
[03:02] <lee__> yes a little
[03:02] <lee__> tis alright
[03:02] <Secubun> Hello everyone! Do any of you know if Ubuntu 10.10 uses Selinux or AppArmor ? :)
[03:02] <gogeta> lee__: force intel at boot then switch to nivida after
[03:02] <Kevin_> sorry yes a ubuntu live cd
[03:02] <lee__> how would one go about doing that
[03:02] <fryguy> Secubun: apparmor
[03:03] <DhyE> kevin : visit this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows ..
[03:03] <Secubun> fryguy: is there an GUI tool out for apparmor like policycoreutils for selinux?
[03:03] <fryguy> Secubun: probably
[03:03] <UnholyTerror> apparmore
[03:03] <Kevin_> but i havent installed windows ...
[03:04] <gogeta> lee__: this might be helpfull
[03:04] <DhyE> kevin : yup i know.. but in your case, the grub was failed..try install a new grub
[03:04] <gogeta> lee__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=923406
[03:04] <Kevin_> o ok
[03:05] <gogeta> lee__: looks like you have totell grub what card to use
[03:05] <lee__> is there a way to use wayland? is wayland stable enough, or even ready for use?
[03:06] <gogeta> lee__: dunno
[03:06] <pragmaticenigma> I wouldn't attempt to install wayland on your own
[03:06] <Gallaeaho> Ok, so I've kinda figured out what I have to do. Do I just have to select the partition and select Install Now, or do I need to click Change and select ext4 fs
[03:07] <gogeta> lee__: seems no its still early
[03:07] <lee__> why would mark even say ubuntu will be using wayland in the future than?
[03:07] <lee__> if its not even ready
[03:07] <gogeta> lee__: from that fourm psot ou make 2 working configs and switch them eyther threw grub or a script
[03:07] <gogeta> you
[03:07] <jellow> everything is still built for Xorg anyway
[03:08] <gogeta> jellow: it will still use xorg for a long time
[03:08] <gogeta> jellow: before its totaly on its own
[03:08] <pragmaticenigma> Ubuntu devs are putting effort to help the wayland team get their product ready... but's it's going to be awhile before it's mainstream ready
[03:08] <sagaci> !wayland
[03:09] <Jmcver> I am having trouble getting the Internet Connection Sharing to work between my computers, can anyone help?
[03:09] <pragmaticenigma> don't think that one exists sagaci
[03:09] <pragmaticenigma> !wayland | sagaci
[03:09] <lee__> whats your guys take on ubuntu switching to unity?
[03:10] <gogeta> lee__: i dont like th interface
[03:10] <pragmaticenigma> Indifferent
[03:10] <schwartzRN> join #techno
[03:10] <uncola> I tried out ubuntu netbook remix with unity.. on an atom nettop..  and I really hated it
[03:10] <gogeta> lee__: at that point threy mine as well dump gnome
[03:10] <uncola> it made me miss gnome.. did not seem fast at all.. and that was on an atom 1.6GHz with 2 gigs of ram
[03:10] <lee__> well technically it still is gnome
[03:10] <pragmaticenigma> unity for netbooks versus the desktop are supposedly going to look very different
[03:11] <gogeta> lee__: unity is made form there hate of gnome shell
[03:11] <pragmaticenigma> Gnome is slow and clunky
[03:11] <gogeta> paranoidi: yea i use lxde these days
[03:11] <lee__> if the gnome shell had customizable panels i think it would be nice
[03:11] <Rash--> is there anyway to change ownership of a folder via livecd?
[03:12] <pragmaticenigma> Rash--: there is a way, but it's not recommended... it's better if you can do it from within the installed system on the computer
[03:12] <pragmaticenigma> what folder are you trying to change the ownership of?
[03:12] <misbach_> huuuuuy ubuntu users
[03:12] <Rash--> pragmaticenigma -- issue is, the HD that had my MBR (was dual boot) died and I can't get the hard drive with ubuntu to boot
[03:13] <Jmcver> #ICS
[03:13] <Rash--> and I am trying to get my files on to a new PC I bought
[03:13] <pragmaticenigma> The live CD should be able to read the files from the drive to another drive
[03:13] <gogeta> Rash--: then you install grub to the new hdd
[03:13] <Rash--> pragmaticenigma it will read them, but the files are in my old home folder
[03:14] <Rash--> which is protected, so I can't actually rw the files
[03:14] <lee__> is the linux mint channel mintirc?
[03:14] <pragmaticenigma> But you should be able to read the files, yes?
[03:14] <Rash--> Nope
[03:14] <gogeta> Rash--: wel you can move the files read only
[03:14] <pragmaticenigma> !mint | lee
[03:14] <ubuntu4shane> !mint | lee__
[03:14] <gogeta> Rash--: to your new hdd
[03:14] <lee__> its !mint?
[03:14] <meoblast001> hi
[03:15] <Rash--> every folder except MP3/Pictures/Documents are coming up with the you are not the owner error
[03:15] <pragmaticenigma> once they are copied to your new system you can chown to change the ownership
[03:15] <meoblast001> what's the name of the program that builds USB flash driver installers?
[03:15] <meoblast001> of Ubuntu
[03:15] <gogeta> Rash--: still should be able to copy past them
[03:15] <xangua> !unetbootin | meoblast001 works better for me
[03:16] <pragmaticenigma> lee__ the !mint is a way to get the ubottu to respond with pre-made messages
[03:16] <Gallaeaho> alright, since apparently now i have to specify all my partitions manually just so i can use one partition
[03:16] <Rash--> gogeta Im going to try that no, stand by... let me see if I can copy/paste them onto a network share
[03:16] <gogeta> Rash--: or you can from the term cd into the home dir do sudo cp * /media/yournewhdd
[03:16] <lee__> so do you know the name of it?
[03:16] <ubuntu4shane> meoblast001, System -> Administration -> Startup Disk Creator
[03:16] <Gallaeaho> what is a recommended size for swap space
[03:16] <meoblast001> thanks
[03:16] <Kevin_> k i just re installed ubuntu but when i boot up i get the grub screan
[03:16] <meoblast001> ubuntu4shane: oh, sorry, i probably should have mentioned it was not preinstalled as i switched to Kubuntu
[03:16] <misbach_> swap= 1gb
[03:16] <Kevin_> how do i boot in the the GUI?
[03:16] <pragmaticenigma> ubottu just told you were to find the mint support group
[03:17] <pragmaticenigma> where*
[03:17] <gogeta> Rash--: your network share will need to be rw
[03:17] <ubuntu4shane> meoblast001, in that case look for: usb-creator-gtk
[03:17] <ubuntu4shane> meoblast001, that is the actual commandline to start the application
[03:18] <meoblast001> hm, i don't think Unetbootin is what i want
[03:18] <meoblast001> ah, usb-creator-gtk, thanks
[03:18] <gogeta> meoblast001: they do the same thing but whatever you like\
[03:18] <misbach_> indonesia indonesia indonesia indonesia indonesia indonesia
[03:18] <pragmaticenigma> meoblast001: unetbootin is a frontend for usb-creator
[03:18] <tzanger> Good evening... where do I start debugging a suspend problem with 10.10? nothing at all of interest appears in pm-suspend.log, and suspend worked GREAT with 9.04, 9.10 and 10.04.
[03:18] <meoblast001> ah
[03:19] <gogeta> pragmaticenigma: no its a diffrent program
[03:19] <gogeta> pragmaticenigma: but it does the same thing
[03:19] <ubuntu4shane> meoblast001, they are different
[03:19] <Kevin_> im so confused :S
[03:19] <pragmaticenigma> Kevin_: boot issues are hard to solve in chat
[03:19] <Rash--> gogeta comes back, The folder April cannot be handled because you do not have permission to read it
[03:19] <Kevin_> y?
[03:20] <ubuntu4shane> meoblast001, the usb-creator is a little more ubuntu friendly, and unetbootin would create a usb startup disk for about anything you throw at it
[03:20] <gogeta> Rash--: then you can use a term cd to the home dir then do sudo cp * /yournetworkshare
[03:20] <ubuntu4shane> meoblast001, whereas usb-creator assumes you are making a Ubunut usb stick
[03:20] <pragmaticenigma> Kevin_: The solution to your problem is to start the installtion process again
[03:20] <hanasaki> what is the current flavor of choice for vpn software? free/opensource and needs to work with windows and mac too
[03:20] <gogeta> Rash--: whatever your network share mount point is
[03:20] <Kevin_> i did 2 times
[03:21] <gogeta> Rash--: and the folder you whant to store everything
[03:21] <pragmaticenigma> are you using the default settings in each prompt?
[03:21] <gogeta> Rash--: eg sudo cp * /mshome/stored
[03:21] <dli> how to create ubuntu liveUSB from windows?
[03:21] <pragmaticenigma> Kevin_: Are you following the prompts with defaults during the installation?
[03:22] <gogeta> Rash--: just make shure you in the home dir when you use * or you will copy the entire fs
[03:22] <Kevin_> ya
[03:22] <xangua> try unetbootin dli
[03:22] <crimeboy> anyone know if have someway to know when (date) occurring the instalation of disto?
[03:22] <pragmaticenigma> dli: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=811397
[03:22] <dli> xangua, pragmaticenigma thanks
[03:23] <sukuri> I'm running a custom distro of Ubuntu 10.04 specifically designed to handle intel's gma500 graphics card. When I boot my computer the first time, everything runs well. When I finish a long list of updates, the regular progress bar goes across the screen, then the screen begins to flash, showing the console-login screen a couple of times. When I put my computer in standby and bring it out of it, I can then use the console mode.
[03:23] <sukuri> Any thoughts on how to fix my current issue?
[03:23] <pragmaticenigma> sukuri: We can only really support the generally available installation CDs
[03:24] <pragmaticenigma> Custom spins, you may need to find the person who made it and get help from them
[03:24] <sukuri> pragmaticenigma: if it weren´t a custom install, what would you say? Al that was supposedly changed was that they added gma500 support
[03:24] <crimeboy> sukuri: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:25] <pragmaticenigma> I would be left to believe that an update broke a setting or package provided by sukuri
[03:25] <mouse> I have a question.  If 10.04 is lts then why would I want to use 10.10 that is NOT lts?
[03:25] <crimeboy> mouse: u dont
[03:25] <sukuri> pragmaticenigma: is there a systematic way of trying to find out which package broke the build that does not involve me formatting the device over and over again?
[03:25] <moho> what's a good open source software for ripping dvd's then burning them?????
[03:25] <pragmaticenigma> 10.04 means that ubuntu will be supported and updates provided for long term, non-lts editions are supported for one year from realse
[03:26] <avelldiroll> mouse: in order to have more recent packages
[03:26] <ubuntu4shane> mouse, because you gotta have the latest greatest stuff?
[03:26] <pragmaticenigma> sukuri: I'm not aware of any methods to roll back updates, I know it's possible
[03:26] <ubuntu4shane> mouse, that is kind of an opinion question, really depends on what you want.
[03:26] <Gallaeaho> Alright, I've (hopefully) done these partitions right so I've given 155GB to Ubuntu and the other 1GB of the 156GB partition to swap
[03:26] <misbach_> How to create triple boot
[03:26] <pragmaticenigma> moho: We don't support piracy
[03:27] <misbach_> what was that
[03:27] <misbach_> d
[03:27] <achuinard> hey yall
[03:27] <josh1> how do I write a script or something to automate shutting down the computer via this command "sudo shutdown -P 30"
[03:27] <misbach_> hey
[03:27] <achuinard> i'm running IntelliJ (java ide), a java dev server from command line, along with chrome, rhythmbox, and a few others
[03:27]  * hashashin nas
[03:27] <mouse> Okay then my next question is how do I get the update manager to stop asking me if I want to upgrade to 10.10?
[03:27] <moho> what's a good open source software for ripping dvd's then burning them?????
[03:27] <achuinard> but things seem to start running slow - i have a 6-core amd and 4gb of ddr3 memory.  can anyone help me troubleshoot why my system starts lagging?
[03:27] <ubuntu4shane> misbach_, with grub2, I think that is much easier now days.
[03:27] <Gallaeaho> moho: Why do you keep asking
[03:28] <achuinard> I'm on ubuntu 10.04 64
[03:28] <pragmaticenigma> moho: No one here is going to answer that question
[03:28] <sukuri> crimeboy: didn´t fix
[03:28] <moho> only asked 2 times gallaeaho
[03:28] <Gallaeaho> moho: But the problem is that your question is asking us to tell you how to commit acts of piracy
[03:28] <xueya> ni men wei shen me bu xue hanyu
[03:29] <mouse> achuinard, One quick way is to open the cpu monitor and see what's using up most of the resources.
[03:29] <uncola> acts of piracy!?
[03:29] <achuinard> mouse, I notice at the top my CPU monitor gets a more blue, less apparent line
[03:29] <moho> o did not know that
[03:29] <Gallaeaho> uncola: moho wants to know about DVD ripping software that will A) rip a DVD and B) create a copy
[03:29] <Gallaeaho> of said DVD
[03:29] <achuinard> mouse, that spikes above the normal blue activity line
[03:29] <Gallaeaho> moho, may I ask what kind of DVD
[03:30] <Gallaeaho> You want to rip
[03:30] <uncola> Gallaeaho, what if he wants to rip his cousins home video dvd and make a copy for himself?
[03:30] <uncola> it could be totally legit
[03:30] <Gallaeaho> uncola, that's why I just asked that question
[03:30] <Gallaeaho> :p
[03:30] <mouse> achuinard, and you want to know what's using up so much of the cpu right?
[03:30] <Tort> Can someone link me to a good howto for ssh?
[03:30] <achuinard> mouse, I don't think it's the CPU, it seems more memory related. Like all these Java processes are slowing things down.
[03:30] <pragmaticenigma> what is the default burning program in ubuntu?
[03:31] <ubuntu4shane> tort across lan, or across www?
[03:31] <sagaci> pragmaticenigma: brasero
[03:31] <pragmaticenigma> thanks sagaci
[03:31] <moho> trying to may only my one legal backup copy
[03:31] <achuinard> mouse, java in htop is using 1755M under Virt, 793M under Res, 11008 under CPU, and Mem% is 20%
[03:31] <Tort> perhaps something that covers both
[03:31] <Tort> or just both..
[03:31] <pragmaticenigma> moho: You can use brasero or k3b to make copies of non-copyrighted disks
[03:31] <achuinard> sorry, 11008 is under SHR
[03:31] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, across lan is super simple, install openssh  and you are good to go
[03:31] <moho> you can
[03:31] <pragmaticenigma> moho: there is no such thing as a legal backup copy
[03:32] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, I use it all the time on lan
[03:32] <mouse> achuinard, Oh I run 10.04 amd64 too and sometimes I have to kill java manually.  It's usually minecraft related.
[03:32] <joey_> how do i share my internet connection with my windows xp computer?
[03:32] <Tort> ubuntu4shane: I was under the impression that you had to have a client installed on the second machine though?
[03:32] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, after that, on both machines, you can ssh user@ipaddress
[03:32] <Kevin`> pragmaticenigma: you have to draw a line somewhere between right and legal
[03:32] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, I'm 95% sure it is just openssh, but let me check
[03:32] <avelldiroll> mouse: system>administration>software sources>updates>Release upgrade -> Long term support releases only
[03:32] <Gallaeaho> it depends on what he needs to make a "backup copy" of
[03:32] <achuinard> There are some params on java like -Xms128m, -Xmx1024m, -XX:MaxPermSize=250m.  Is it possible I can increase these?
[03:32] <pragmaticenigma> moho: under the DMCA it's illegal for anyone to tell another person how to circumvent encryption technology
[03:33] <mouse> avelldiroll, Ah thank you.
[03:33] <Tort> ubuntu4shane: Maybe it only changes if you are ssh'ing into a machine with Windows?
[03:33] <achuinard> I'm thinking that's not enough memory for Java since I'm running a dev server plus an IDE
[03:33] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, ohh, right, I only work with Linux boxes, very simple
[03:33] <moho> ok,i hear you
[03:33] <Tort> ubuntu4shane: okay that's fine, what about over www?
[03:33] <Kevin`> Tort: windows doesn't normally have an ssh server
[03:34] <mouse> avelldiroll, Is that going to prevent other updates from happening or just remove the upgrade to 10.10 option?
[03:34] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, never done that over www, that is a different ball game, because I assume you are going to need router configurations, and port forwarding etc.  gets complex
[03:34] <JabberWalkie> I think you can set up an ssh server on windows using cygwin
[03:34] <Kevin`> Tort: if you are doing it over the internet I recommend using dns so you don't have to remember the ip
[03:34] <JabberWalkie> infact, I have done it before
[03:34] <ubuntu4shane> Tort on the other hand I have ssh access into my server, but they are a server. :)
[03:35] <avelldiroll> mouse: only the 10.10 option ... updates for 10.04 will keep on coming
[03:35] <pragmaticenigma> I know there is a way to setup SSH on windows without requiring Cygwin
[03:35] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, this is a little dated, but https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html  should be fine
[03:35] <pragmaticenigma> just can't recall the name of the program here
[03:35] <Tort> ubuntu4shane: alright I'll check that out. Thanks
[03:35] <mouse> avelldiroll, Okay thank you.
[03:35] <JabberWalkie> is there a way to get updates to install automatically? It always keeps bugging me so I can press ok....
[03:36] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, I don't think you have to do all the configuration, just the two install commands at the top
[03:36] <Kevin`> JabberWalkie: yes. it's an option when installing, but i'm sure you can change it after
[03:36] <loltoad> hey, when i use cat bootsec.bin > /dev/sdb, sometimes after I eject the flashdrive, the datas not on it
[03:37] <Kevin`> Tort: the client is available by default on a normal ubuntu or mac install
[03:37] <pragmaticenigma> JabberWalkie: it's smarter to not let it auto update... because if an update breaks something you may lose your system
[03:37] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, that being said there are all kinds of security additions that you can configure if you are paranoid, I did those for several years, and decided ahh, don't really live in a dangerous area. :)
[03:37] <blackplague1347> I installed a game with Wine and PlayOnLinux (the Sims 3), anyone know where it is? I need access to the \BIN\ folder.
[03:37] <pragmaticenigma> JabberWalkie: there is a way to have it download the updates then prompt you to install them
[03:37] <JabberWalkie> i mean just security updates
[03:37] <Tort> ubuntu4shane: what do most people use ssh for? I know what it does but I haven't heard of a practical use outside of system administration
[03:37] <Gallaeaho> blackplague1347: it would be under ~\.c_drive\
[03:38] <Gallaeaho> I think that's how it goes for WINE
[03:38] <JabberWalkie> nm, ill google
[03:38] <avelldiroll> mouse: but updates for a version of ubuntu only fixes bugs, if you want new versions of softwares (with new features ... ) you will need to upgrade to the next ubuntu version (i.e. 10.10)
[03:38] <jellow> blackplague1347: int in the /home/USER/.playonlinux
[03:38] <pragmaticenigma> JabberWalkie: I'm not sure there is a way to only auto update security fixes
[03:38] <bastidrazor> Gallaeaho: your \ should be /
[03:38] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, hmm, system admin. :)  I use it a lot to copy files from my cpu to the laptop
[03:38] <pragmaticenigma> I've never really looked into it
[03:38] <Gallaeaho> er, my mistake bastidrazor
[03:38] <Gallaeaho> Mind's in /reverse/ tonight... Haha.
[03:38] <bastidrazor> Gallaeaho: an easy one to do. :)
[03:38] <blackplague1347> Okay, I'll check both of those places.
[03:38] <pragmaticenigma> Gallaeaho: is in windows land tonight is more like it
[03:39] <Gallaeaho> Yes
[03:39] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, mostly system admin, update a box I'm not setting at, I access my pc from laptop a lot for files, just laziness.
[03:39] <Gallaeaho> Anyways, this installer is finishing up
[03:39] <Gallaeaho> I'm praying that I didn't mess up anything
[03:39] <pragmaticenigma> okay friends... time for me to hit the sheets
[03:39] <Tort> ubuntu4shane: cool, I'm really lazy :P
[03:39] <Gallaeaho> I'd like to KEEP the XP install intact
[03:39] <moho> so then caan somone pm me  a link to a page that has that info. rember to pm and not in open room
[03:40] <Gallaeaho> moho, Brasero should be on your system already
[03:40] <Gallaeaho> Applications -> Sounds & Video -> Brasero Disc Burner
[03:40] <blackplague1347> How do I address a message to a specific user in Xchat?
[03:40] <Gallaeaho> prefix with /msg
[03:40] <blackplague1347> I'm new to IRC, I'm afraid.
[03:41] <Gallaeaho> er
[03:41] <Gallaeaho> try /query User
[03:41] <Kevin`> blackplague1347: /q or /query name
[03:41] <Gallaeaho> and in the new window that pops up
[03:41] <Gallaeaho> just type the message.
[03:41] <pragmaticenigma> start the line with /msg followed by the users name
[03:41] <pragmaticenigma> the /q may upset some people
[03:41] <Gallaeaho> that works, but for added assurance use /query
[03:41] <ubuntu4shane> Blackguard, do you mean private message, or just in general?
[03:41] <ubuntu4shane> Blackguard, opps, wrong nick. :)  sorry to wake you
[03:41] <Gallaeaho> Alright, so I have one final question
[03:42] <Gallaeaho> The addition of the "Retrieve updates from the internet" feature is genius
[03:42] <ubuntu4shane> blackplague1347, do you mean for private  message or just in general?
[03:42] <MrGoodkat> hey guys
[03:42] <Gallaeaho> But why, after doing that and installing the system, do I get plagued with 100 more updates on the first reboot
[03:42] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, that is a statement. :)
[03:42] <blackplague1347> Like that thing you guys are doing which makes your messages appear as red on my screen
[03:42] <Gallaeaho> Oh
[03:42] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, there have probably been that many fixes to packages since the release.
[03:42] <Gallaeaho> that's called a highlight
[03:42] <MrGoodkat> im currently on 10.10 and whenever i toggle scim to "Off" the windows showing the chinese characters dont disappear, they just become unclickable
[03:43] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: I wouldn't worry about it too much, in any case there is only ONE pass of updates when you run it, and 0 or 1 reboots
[03:43] <Gallaeaho> A highlight occurs when someone mentions your name in chat
[03:43] <MrGoodkat> but are still visible, as if the screen doesnt refresh or smth
[03:43] <ubuntu4shane> blackplague1347, type the first few letters of my name and hit tab, it should complete my name, so you don't have to type it all
[03:43] <Gallaeaho> alright
[03:43] <Gallaeaho> rebooting HOPEFULLY into a functioning laptop install of Ubuntu 10.10
[03:44] <ubuntu4shane> blackplague1347, or type my entire nickname if it is easier, either way it will show red on my screen
[03:44] <blackplague1347> ubuntu4shane, so it's just like the terminal in that sense.
[03:44] <ubuntu4shane> blackplague1347, there ya go!  it is best if someone answers your question to respond to them with that, otherwise they may not see it.
[03:44] <blackplague1347> what about if i put your name in the middle of the sentence, ubuntu4shane ?
[03:45] <ubuntu4shane> it is the same in the middle or at the end blackplague1347
[03:45] <blackplague1347> ubuntu4shane, Awesome. Thanks.
[03:45] <ubuntu4shane> I guess most put it first out of habbit blackplague1347
[03:45] <ubuntu4shane> blackplague1347, no problem
[03:46] <blackplague1347> jellow, Thanks for telling me where to find the BIN folder for my game.
[03:46] <Gallaeaho> God damnit...
[03:46] <ubuntu4shane> ok, it is bed time, nite all
[03:47] <Gallaeaho> I broke my god damn XP install somehow
[03:47] <Gallaeaho> It's seeing WINDOWS 7, the OS that I _JUST ERASED_
[03:47] <ubuntu4shane> !language | Gallaeaho
[03:47] <moho> so then caan somone pm me  a link to a page that has that info. rember to pm and not in open room
[03:47] <Gallaeaho> ubuntu4shane: My apologies
[03:47] <Gallaeaho> I was just trying to avoid this mishap and somehow it still happened
[03:48] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, I know it is frustrating, did you try to boot it?  perhaps it just mis-named it?
[03:48] <Gallaeaho> I formatted the right partition, but grub didn't detect XP
[03:48] <Gallaeaho> It's giving me Windows 7 Bootloader, not XP
[03:48] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, don't fret it too bad, XP is still there, just a matter of getting grub to pick it up
[03:49] <moho> help
[03:49] <Gallaeaho> Hm, yeah ubuntu4shane...
[03:50] <Gallaeaho> I really don't want to even install updates until I get this working
[03:50] <Habstinat> I have an Ubuntu 10.10 CD in the drive right now, and I still had this in the drive when my computer was starting up. So, how does this picture make any sense at all, and what should I do about it? http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/193084708.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1289880402&Signature=ISdjVI0k5c4DRerJOlrT1ARi9JE%3D
[03:51] <moho> please
[03:51] <jgautier> is there a command i can use to rename all files in a directory to lower case?
[03:51] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, I'm not that good with grub2, and it is past my bed time, grub1 I could do it, I'm sure there is documentation, or someone that can help, just don't get too excited and doing crazy stuff
[03:51] <kilimanjaro> I get noticeably worse network performance on my laptop when I am not connected to A/C power (so, just running off the battery). Could this be due to some sort of power management setting in Ubuntu? I looked around but didn't see anything
[03:52] <Gallaeaho> Alright, enjoy your nights sleep ubuntu4shane, I'll look for you tomorrow if I can't solve my problem tonight.
[03:52] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: do you have both windows 7 and xp?
[03:52] <moho> so then caan somone pm me  a link to a page that has that info. rember to pm and not in open room
[03:52] <Gallaeaho> Kevin`, no, I had XP, The Windows 7 loader is coming from the Recovery Partition
[03:52] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, run this in the terminal:  sudo update-grub2  and see if XP gets picked up this time around
[03:52] <bastidrazor> moho: what are you talking about?
[03:53] <Gallaeaho> moho, search the software center
[03:53] <Gallaeaho> All else fails, google.
[03:53] <moho> how to you know
[03:53] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: ah. you might have to manually add it then. this system has xp if you want an example, although it will be similar to the windows 7 one
[03:53] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, you did backup before your installation right?
[03:54] <Gallaeaho> No, I didn't backup. I had no reason to because I was erasing the partition I wanted Ubuntu on. The XP partition itself is still in tact, but the grub installer didn't detect it-- Therefore not offering it as a bootable option
[03:54] <Gallaeaho> *intact
[03:55] <bastidrazor> !details | moho
[03:55] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: manual additions should go to /etc/grub.d/40_custom or similar, not to the grub config itself (otherwise it will get erased on an update)
[03:55] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, hindsight has told me always good idea to backup when messing with partitions, at any rate, should be there, and should be able to get it loaded.
[03:55] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, Kevin` can probably help you get it solved I'm off.  Night.
[03:56] <moho> the less you know the better  off you will be
[03:56] <mdpatrick> How do I get SSH setup so I can log into my desktop from a remote location????
[03:56] <mdpatrick> Is there a guide for which daemon I need to install? Got the impression there might be more than one?
[03:57] <bastidrazor> moho: apparently, you are the one who needs help. the lack of details prevents you getting what yo uneed.
[03:57] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: on an unrelated note, you do have a backup of the recovery partition, right? or the dvds it creates from windows? your oem will CHARGE you to replace that stuff, that's why they have it there at all
[03:57] <bastidrazor> mdpatrick: openssh-server is all that is needed and if behind a router port 22 forwarded
[03:57] <Maahes> now that x configuration has significantly changed, how does one go about changing the specified driver?
[03:57] <Gallaeaho> Kevin`, no I don't, and I don't care because I have media
[03:57] <seannon> hi all
[03:57] <mdpatrick> bastidrazor: damn good answer, would've forgot port 22 forwarding. thanks a ton :)
[03:58] <Gallaeaho> Er, I should say that I have original installation media
[03:58] <moho> ok,here it is. i need to know how to copy some dvd movies
[03:58] <Gallaeaho> moho, that we won't be able to help you with
[03:58] <bastidrazor> mdpatrick: it is common to forget port forwarding
[03:58] <Maahes> Additionally: Is there a way to query the bios version while the system is running?
[03:58] <Gallaeaho> lshw ?
[03:59] <bastidrazor> moho: acidrip  does well
[03:59] <moho> can yoou pm to where i can get help
[03:59] <Kevin`> moho: dvdbackup and growisofs with appropriate options usually works quite well. that one k* disc burning program can do it too.
[03:59] <Maahes> I don't think lshw does it, let me check again
[03:59] <Gallaeaho> Maahes, it might not, but it's the only thing I can think of righ tnow. Haha
[04:00] <bastidrazor> moho: even dvdrip is a good application. Kevin` k3b
[04:00] <Kevin`> lshw DOES show that info btw
[04:00] <mdpatrick> Any opinions on what SSH client I should get for my iphone? ;)
[04:00] <moho> ok will try
[04:00] <Gallaeaho> Oh, interesting
[04:00] <Gallaeaho> Kevin`
[04:00] <mdpatrick> (Gasp! I should have android!! hehe.)
[04:00] <Gallaeaho> There is no bootmgr on the Windows XP partition
[04:01] <rikkimaru> I have a samba share that I used to have to put a password in for when I tried to open the folder in my "Networks" tab in "Places". It doesn't ask for the password any more and I can't access the files (read-only). I suspect someone selected "Remember password forever" Is there a way to delete this kind of saved password?
[04:01] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: does it magically work anyway? which partition is marked active? (the ubuntu installer probably wouldn't change that)
[04:01] <Gallaeaho> give me a moment
[04:03] <Kevin`> if I was me I would be testing this with kvm, and manually entering things into grub for a minimum of rebooting, but you aren't necessarily me
[04:03] <meoblast001> hi
[04:03] <slgma> is there a way to open isos with gnomebaker
[04:03] <meoblast001> i'm having trouble connecting to my network with the following /etc/network/interfaces
[04:03] <slgma> like gnomebaker whatever.iso from terminal (obviouslt that doesnt work or i wouldnt have asked)
[04:03] <rikkimaru> how do I remove passwords that were stored and are used automatically on a samba folder?
[04:03] <meoblast001> iface eth0 inet static
[04:03] <meoblast001> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:03] <meoblast001> network <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:04] <meoblast001> this was working in the past.... but i just reinstalled my system, and now this configuration doesn't work
[04:04] <Kevin`> slgma: gnomebaker sounds like an authoring program, if you just want to burn an iso it may not be appropriate/necessary
[04:04] <meoblast001> i made sure i reserved that IP on the router, so that DHCP starts at <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:05] <Kevin`> meoblast001: pastebin ip addr; ip route
[04:05] <tecnico> rikkimaru: not what you are looking for but a workaround is to change the pasword and force the client to ask for it again. This time don't save it
[04:05] <meoblast001> ah, i found it
[04:06] <Gallaeaho> Kevin, update-grub2 is not finding it
[04:06] <meoblast001> output of /etc/init.d/networking restart gave some useful error info
[04:06] <Gallaeaho> er
[04:06] <Gallaeaho> Kevin`
[04:06] <meoblast001> brb
[04:06] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: what I meant was, if you try to boot it anyway (with the pbr, as you normally would), does it work? update-grub not finding it is understandable if it has no bootloader
[04:07] <slgma> kevin`
[04:07] <slgma> gnomebaker is similar to brasero in its functionality
[04:08] <slgma> except it seems more stable
[04:08] <reya276> How can I get my Monitor Driver or Ubuntu to recognise my Flatpanel Display?
[04:09] <Kevin`> slgma: I may not be much help if you persist in the question (others should), I normally just use wodim/cdrecord or growisofs ;p
[04:10] <slgma> well im not a robot i prefer guis for complex tasks
[04:10] <Kevin`> what task are you doing?
[04:10] <slgma> i just want a disk burning app to open my isos when i double click them
[04:10] <bastidrazor> slgma: why not mount the iso if you don't want to burn it.  also if you don't mind a few extra libraries k3b is one of the best burning applications
[04:10] <Kevin`> heh, that's hardly a complicated task IMO ;p
[04:10] <slgma> im using k3b right now, jus tinstalled it
[04:10] <slgma> but i dont like the interface
[04:11] <slgma> i just want to associate gnomebaker with iso files if possible
[04:11] <slgma> i dont want other peoples opinions on what is a better way of doing it
[04:11] <bastidrazor> slgma: right click the iso and then open with.
[04:11] <slgma> it doesnt work with gnomebaker, atleast not as simple as you just said
[04:11] <slgma> already tried it
[04:12] <Kevin`> part of this comes from my best dvd burner being in the basement and many of my systems not having cd drives at all because they don't do anything
[04:12] <Gallaeaho> Kevin`, you wouldn't know where I can find a copy of bootmgr, would you?
[04:13] <adrian> hello
[04:13] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: the xp install cd can recreate that stuff, but I would hold off on it for now, and instead determine how it was managing to boot itself before you installed ununtu. the install wouldn't have deleted bootmgr
[04:13] <Gallaeaho> Kevin`, my guess is that the MBR was on the partition I deleted
[04:14] <stabme> Hello! I'm trying to write up my fstab so that it mounts my FAT32 drive, and gives me read / write / execute permissions; at the moment I can't seem to change the 'allow executing as program' checkbox. There is no prior entry for the external USB drive. What options should I be looking at?
[04:14] <lee_> hello everyone
[04:15] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: I think the relevent command is fixboot (not fixmbr, that will just screw up grub, mbr only has a very small part of the boot code) for xp, but it's really a ##windows question if that's not enough information on it
[04:15] <slgma> does brasero have a beta repo?
[04:15] <lee_> how do i get my keyrings to automatically start when my system boots up
[04:15] <slgma> id love to just stick with brasero but even in 10.10 it doesnt eject my dvd drive
[04:15] <gogeta> Kevin`: whats he trying to do
[04:15] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: although when you screw up grub you can come back here and ask about it :D. both channels can probably answer both questions for obvious reasons though
[04:15] <slgma> while gnomebaker has no problem ejecting it
[04:15] <lee_> like the wifi
[04:16] <Gallaeaho> Kevin`, but I'm trying to avoid a huge pain in the arse
[04:16] <Gallaeaho> :P
[04:16] <gogeta> Gallaeaho: if you removed linux yes you can use fixmbr for winows
[04:16] <Gallaeaho> No, I installed linux and can no longer boot into windows
[04:16] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: if the windows bootloader really was on the partition you deleted the pain in the arse is unavoidable. mark the windows partition as active (very important for ms tools) and run fixboot
[04:17] <gogeta> Gallaeaho: its not in your grub list?
[04:17] <Gallaeaho> that means i have to find the windows xp install cd that i burned for this laptop. ugh...
[04:17] <gogeta> Kevin`: you dont usew windows tools for fixing grub stop spreding bad advice
[04:17] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: you could also use a server 2003 cd
[04:17] <Kevin`> gogeta: grub works fine
[04:17] <Gallaeaho> er, I don't have any of those kicking around
[04:18] <Gallaeaho> Although, if I really needed that, I could sign onto MSDN and download it...
[04:18] <lee_> i have a little question
[04:18] <gogeta> Gallaeaho: if you partations have change just boot ubuntu live cd run sudo update-grub2 it will regenrate the list
[04:18] <lee_> how do i get my keyrings to automatically start when my system boots up
[04:19] <lee_> i hit the automatically do it at login but it doesnt work
[04:19] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: I really recommend you try booting each of the partitions in turn with grub first though (as I asked originally), although you are probably right in it being currently impossible
[04:19] <Gallaeaho> I did that
[04:19] <Kevin`> and what did it do? you just said you ran update-grub
[04:20] <Gallaeaho> It just rebuilt the config with the same OSes listed
[04:20] <gogeta> Kevin`: its update-grub2
[04:20] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: I don't want you to run update-grub, I want you to type crypic commands from the grub menu and have it actually try to boot the partitions manually (or add menu entries for them)
[04:21] <gogeta> Kevin`: you cant use find stage 1 on grub 2
[04:21] <Kevin`> gogeta: his grub is working
[04:21] <Kevin`> he erased the windows bootloader during the install