[05:36] <wizardken> i686 true 64 bit and i86_64 just an addon to 34 bit ?
[05:36] <DrkCodeman> ubuntu going to run smooth with socket r in a addition to the new 8 core amd bulldozer?
[05:36] <sacarlson> xion: well that would be one method I'm sure there are 100 more ways to do it
[05:36] <ohsix> Jordan_U: it wouldn't be a whitelist, but a blacklist, there are few scenarios where your credentials are replaced
[05:37] <ferlicjl> Can someone help me with Wireless Connections?
[05:37] <ohsix> wizardken: i686 is the p6, the first pentiums & pentium pros ;] no 64bit there
[05:37] <MuhammadTahir> ubuntu software centre is taking much longer is it normal ?
[05:37] <Jordan_U> ohsix: Then please include said blacklist in any comments to users where you suggest using sudo with a graphical app. Or, more reasonably, suggest the use of gksudo instead.
[05:38] <MuhammadTahir> i m installing vlc and it is too much slow
[05:38] <dualcore> MuhammadTahir: do you have any other downloads going?
[05:38] <MuhammadTahir> no nothning else
[05:38] <wizardken> ohsix, oic thanks
[05:39] <ohsix> Jordan_U: i make no suggestions, if it comes to be something that is likely to modify a file that will make logging in, or anything like it; difficult, i'll defer to gksudo or find a better way to do it
[05:39] <ajin> hey guys
[05:39] <sacarlson> xion: and here is another way http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=491111
[05:39] <ajin> howdy
[05:39] <Xion> sacarlson:) i just moved acetone iso to try and it did not promt me for password when i execute
[05:39] <Jordan_U> ohsix: This is an official policy of #ubuntu, if you'd like to discuss it further please join #ubuntu-ops.
[05:39] <MuhammadTahir> just played a song from youtube and nothing else
[05:39] <dualcore> how large is the application you're installing and what is your bandwidth?
[05:40] <sacarlson> xion: if that user is sudo and you have accessed sudo in the last pretimeout then that would be the case
[05:40] <MuhammadTahir> its 20.7 mb and my conection is 1 mb
[05:40] <MuhammadTahir> but usually i can download much faster than that
[05:41] <sacarlson> xion: and iso is not an application it is a file that is read by an app so ?
[05:41] <MuhammadTahir> in abt 30 to 35 minutes its about 20 % done
[05:41] <Xion> sacarlson:) yes i use sudo to open nautilus,i mean gksu
[05:41] <dualcore> MuhammadTahir: are there other computers on the network downloading?
[05:41] <ohsix> Jordan_U: one contrived and avoidable situation doesn't really convince, and practically speaking i can almost assure you that it will never come up in a scenario where i am assisting someone
[05:41] <MuhammadTahir> no
[05:42] <sacarlson> xion: so you want even a sudo user to have to add a password?
[05:42] <MuhammadTahir> i have my own line
[05:42] <Jordan_U> ohsix: This is an official policy of #ubuntu, if you'd like to discuss it further please join #ubuntu-ops.
[05:42] <Xion> sacarlson:) acetoneiso is a app
[05:42] <Xion> yes
[05:42] <Xion> sacarlson:) i dont have user on my computer,but i share it sometimes
[05:42] <sacarlson> xion: then you should modify your sudoer file so that this sudo user must add a password or not access at all
[05:42] <MuhammadTahir> if i try to download directly or through torent any thing i can download 20 mb in about 1 to 2 minutes
[05:43] <sacarlson> xion: if it's ubuntu it must have a user to operate
[05:44] <Xion> sacarlson:) yes just me,
[05:44] <MuhammadTahir> the same problem with update manager yesterday in 6 hours it downloaded only about 22 or some mb
[05:44] <dualcore> MuhammadTahir: whats your bandwidth http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
[05:44] <sacarlson> xion: but you run as sudo all the time?
[05:44] <ohsix> Jordan_U: this is a "what i will ever say in the future" policy, it's none of your business, you can tell people the perils of messing with your credentialss as root, not me; i don't suspect anyone but the strictest of cargo cult to just run everything with sudo either, the ssh thing is as contrived as it gets, and ssh could/should see who owns those credentials before it copies them
[05:45] <play> lastest ubuntu 11.04 alpha stable enough to use? itching to upgrade. (thanks for any feedback)
[05:45] <Xion> sacarlson:) i think so,i just use sudo at terminal
[05:45] <MuhammadTahir> its .81 mbps
[05:45] <ohsix> Jordan_U: note: you'd need to do "sudo ssh -X" for this to happen
[05:45] <sacarlson> xion: well if you don't need sudo don't use it
[05:45] <ohsix> Jordan_U: not ssh root@ -X
[05:45] <bazhang> play, #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support
[05:45] <play> ah, thanks for the tip @ bazhang
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> play: works ok here, i'd ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:46] <ohsix> Jordan_U: its up to the reader to decide of sudo ssh is more correct than ssh root@
[05:46] <Starminn> How do I change the icon of a file?
[05:46] <ohsix> bbiab
[05:46] <Jordan_U> ohsix: This channel has guidelines, If you refuse to follow them I will have to remove you from the channel. I really don't want or expect it to come to that.
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: right click it -> properties then then click the icon and change it
[05:46] <bazhang> Starminn, right click choose a new one or get a new theme set
[05:46] <Xion> sacarlson:) so theres nothing i can change in users and groups to block myself from som apps ?
[05:46] <sacarlson> xion: maybe you should just move all the stuf you normaly run out of /usr/sbin and put them in /usr/bin so that you almost never need sudo?  then it will ask for a password when you really want it to
[05:47] <ohsix> Jordan_U: i suspect you'll be informing me every time i make a faux pa, i'm confident even. as this isn't the first time, so all is well
[05:47] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Wow. Did not know that the image was actually a clickable button. :) Thanks.
[05:47] <sacarlson> xion: sure there is but you keep bypassing it so what's the point
[05:47] <DrkCodeman> ohsix: is ubuntu going to be able to handle 128bit architecture?
[05:48] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: that wont be ubuntu, and it won't be for 20 years, it's useless to speculate
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: yeah man, works all over the place (really good for removable devices appearing on the deskto ;))
[05:48] <ohsix> linux already has some targets with vliw, but not with huge address spaces
[05:48] <DrkCodeman> ohsix: its already here... look up the new amd bulldozer...
[05:48] <sacarlson> xion: you can make add another user called superduperuser and give him full rights and make your present user only access without a password what you want to normaly run without a password
[05:48] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Good idea. :) Although my removables don't appear on my Desktop, but duely noted. :) Never would have thought to click on the image.
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> DrkCodeman: as long as the kernel is compiled to use the addressing and any features in the CPU then sure
[05:48] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: i have a bridge for sale
[05:49] <ohsix> its best not to conflate the instruction size with the possible address space size
[05:49] <Xion> sacarlson:) so i need to open a gksu nautilus and move all from /usr/sbin  to usr/bin and notjing happend to the system?
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: when I connect my phone, my phone appears on my desktop. I also got a pic of an my exact SD card which appears when I plug it in
[05:49] <ohsix> even 32bit processors can have 40+ bits of address space
[05:49] <sacarlson> xion: all?  I thought it was just one app?
[05:49] <Jordan_U> ohsix: Please join #ubuntu-ops.
[05:50] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Nice. Good idea. :)
[05:50] <sacarlson> xion: no you only need to change your /etc/sudoer file
[05:50] <DrkCodeman> memory limitation
[05:50] <MuhammadTahir> sualcore any ideas ?
[05:51] <MuhammadTahir> dualcore ***
[05:51] <sacarlson> xion: I assume the apps you want to limit are aleady in /usr/sbin
[05:51] <ohsix> crap, you can't drag things onto icons in the panel anymore in natty
[05:52] <ViciousPlant> join ##politics
[05:52] <Andy-at-home> guys, how to compress everything in the current directory (and sub directories) in to a tar?
[05:52] <ohsix> LOL if you drag it over an app in the taskbar it doesn't switch either, it adds a button next to it
[05:52] <Andy-at-home> tar cvfz mytarfile.tgz *?
[05:52] <Starminn> ohhsix: Offtopic and/or #ubuntu+1
[05:52] <DrkCodeman> ohsix: one last thing is there a chance i can market ubuntu as a free alternative to windows to my customers at my local computers store?
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> Andy-at-home: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-compress-a-whole-linux-or-unix-directory/
[05:52] <sacarlson> xion: in sudo you can limit a user to only be able to run a single app or a group of apps with or without a password
[05:53] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: is there? i have no idea
[05:53] <play> andy, you can up up a level and right click the folder -> in menu select compress -> select your options -> all set
[05:53] <DrkCodeman> ohsix: dont you personaly work for ubuntu?
[05:53] <play> ah nm, you wanted the terminal command
[05:53] <eamon> WHat kind of RAM should I get? http://dpaste.de/tq5w/
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> eamon: ask in ##hardware  this is ubuntu support only
[05:54] <eamon> DDR or something is it?
[05:54] <Andy-at-home> file paths seems to be kept when I try
[05:54] <eamon> ok ty ActionParsnip
[05:55] <Xion> sacarlson:) maby i want to blocl all aps thet use internet like browsers etc,i have a young boy here looking for action online,,if u know what i mean :)
[05:55] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: no, and i don't work with/for your business either; so i can't say
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> eamon: its offtopic here
[05:56] <eamon> ActionParsnip: ok ty
[05:56] <ac7ss> Xion: you can make a hosts file to block all web to those sites.
[05:56] <ohsix> you can use a proxy & whitelisting too
[05:57] <sacarlson> xion: just read the link then and it gives a good example of how to create a group http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=491111
[05:57] <Xion> ac7ss:) i whant to block the internet app like mozilla,opera,chonium etc
[05:57] <ohsix> but if you just want to block the internet, lock down networkmanager & have no profiles to connect with
[05:57] <ac7ss> Xion: or you could make a WEB group and make the browser programs group WEB and permission 550.
[05:57] <sacarlson> xion: and give the boy his own user name and password
[05:58] <ac7ss> Xion: and make sure he is not in the WEB group
[05:58] <sacarlson> ac7ss: xion: that sounds like it would work to me
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> Xion: you can setup a proxy and setup filters for selected content
[05:59] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: xion: true you wouldn't want to totaly cut off internet access so this might be better
[05:59] <ohsix> lets not forget that gnome has its own restrictions management
[06:02] <ac7ss> Is there an easy way to tell if a program is the only copy of itself running?
[06:02] <ac7ss> Shell.
[06:02] <ohsix> not really
[06:02] <Flynn> ac7ss: what do you mean exactly??
[06:03] <ohsix> theres pgrep and other tools that do something like it, that'll search all processes to see if they're running, but most apps that want to run only once have exclusive pid files
[06:03] <DrkCodeman> ps aux?
[06:03] <Jordan_U> ac7ss: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/045
[06:03] <ac7ss> Flynn: I have a script that I want to make sure it is the only copy running. If it finds another copy, it exits.
[06:03] <sacarlson> ac7ss: I wrote a script that checked if a program was already running before it ran, is that what you want?
[06:03] <Flynn> ac7ss: sudo ps -eF          sudo top -c          sudo gnome-system-monitor
[06:03] <DrkCodeman> top is good :)\
[06:03] <Flynn> ac7ss: sudo ps -eF | grep -i "File Name"
[06:04] <sevith> *** stack smashing detected ***: ./a.out terminated
[06:04] <sevith> Ubuntu 10.10
[06:04] <ac7ss> sacarlson: Yes, I currently use ps -A|grep SCRIPTNAME| wc -l
[06:04] <glitchd> ok so i need some help again please
[06:04] <ohsix> ac7ss: touch a file that exists only when it's running, and remove it when it's killed; then trying to start it again will find the file there and not start
[06:04] <Flynn> sevith: what's the a.out file?
[06:05] <ohsix> and put the pid in that file so you can check and see if it's really actually still running (so you can clean up if it isn't)
[06:05] <sevith> Flynn, Its just a simple overflow but ubuntu wont let me run it....:/
[06:05] <sacarlson> ac7ss: I think I use this if [ "$(pidof openvpn)" ]
[06:05] <ac7ss> ohsix: I want it to be foolproof. (Don't want to loose it on a bad reboot.)
[06:05] <glitchd> i lost color on my desktop, the top panel icons are in color but anything on the desktop is in black and white-monochrome
[06:05] <ohsix> that's what the pid is for
[06:05] <sevith> Flynn, You know whats stopping it?
[06:05] <Flynn> sevith: chmod +x the file??
[06:06] <ohsix> if you want it to start as its own user and only once like a regular service, it's more involved but you can do that too
[06:06] <Flynn> sevith: secondly how are you trying to run it?  sh ./File name   or    ./filename   ...after chmod'ing it?
[06:06] <Andy-at-home> how do I compress everything in the current directory without taking the full filepath? when I extract the tar i get the structure from the old /var/www/currentdirectory/subdirectories instead of allfile/subdirectories
[06:06] <sacarlson> ac7ss: yes that's what I wanted also since for some reason the app didn't always start so I had a cron check it every hour and at boot
[06:06] <sevith> Flynn, chmod didnt help ./filename is how i am running it
[06:06] <ohsix> Andy-at-home: cd /thatdirectory tar cf file.tar .
[06:07] <Loshki> ac7ss: locking code is full of gotchas for the unwary. Follow Jordan_U's link above...
[06:07] <sevith> Flynn, Its a c application
[06:07] <Andy-at-home> thanks
[06:07] <Flynn> sevith: hmm i'm not to experienced in C
[06:07] <sevith> Flynn, Do you know if ubuntu has stack protection
[06:08] <Flynn> sevith: I'm usually on Arch but I try to help Ubuntu'ers but I'm not too sure
[06:08] <Dannyd> hi, im trying to add an icon to the panel, but the application only works well when run as root, I tried "command : sudo <appname>", but now it dosent launch....can someone tell me how I can do that?
[06:08] <ohsix> sevith: that's up to the loader/c library and NX support, which i believe is all in place, including address layout randomization
[06:08] <glitchd> anyone have any clue how to get my desktop back in color??
[06:09] <Flynn> Dannyd: use the command if it's a gui app:   gksudo file-name
[06:09] <Andy-at-home> tar cf myfile.tar not working
[06:09] <Flynn> sorry
[06:09] <Jordan_U> ac7ss: You can also use run-one and run-only one as explained here: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/02/introducing-run-one-and-run-this-one.html
[06:09] <Flynn> Dannyd: gksudo program-name
[06:09] <Andy-at-home> or tar cf myfile.tar .
[06:09] <ohsix> Andy-at-home: that trailing dot is important, it's the directory to archive, and it means "this directory"
[06:09] <ac7ss> I was trying to do it within the script.
[06:09] <ohsix> Andy-at-home: you might want to make it cvf, so it shows progress
[06:09] <dbm> any1 know how to get 'Mask' like this ubuntu/member/
[06:09] <dbm> ?
[06:10] <Loshki> sevith: http://cboard.cprogramming.com/c-programming/88842-***-stack-smashing-detected-***.html
[06:10] <sacarlson> Andy-at-home: taring a tar file?  try man tar   I think it's tar -x  or just use nautilus with fileroller
[06:10] <Andy-at-home> weird, the cvf was it
[06:10] <Flynn> Ubuntu-related:  Just saw Ubuntu being used in Tron Legacy...awesome
[06:10] <sevith> Loshki, thx
[06:10] <sevith> ohsix, thx
[06:10] <Dannyd> wow Flynn: you are a genious..thats exactly what I was trying to do..thanks a lot..
[06:10] <Silentcrow> hello
[06:10] <sevith> Flynn, thx
[06:10] <sevith> i got it ;)
[06:11] <Flynn> Dannyd: no problem
[06:11] <ac7ss> Flynn: Did you notice the Ubuntu logo on the character's forehead?
[06:11] <Flynn> Dannyd: gksudo is using admin permissions on gui's.  sudo program-name   isn't right
[06:11] <Silentcrow> hello
[06:11] <Besogon> Andy-at-home: HOw have you done it?
[06:12] <Flynn> ac7ss: i don't think that's ubuntu's logo, it looks sortof like it but it's not it
[06:12] <Andy-at-home> it was tar cvf myfile.tar .
[06:12] <Flynn> ac7ss: but yes i thought the same
[06:12] <sacarlson> Andy-at-home: that creates  a tar of a tar file
[06:12] <ac7ss> Flynn: looks close enough.
[06:12] <Andy-at-home> 6am here
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> Andy-at-home: same here (UK)
[06:13] <Andy-at-home> now imagine you cant do the simplest of task
[06:13] <Andy-at-home> ...
[06:13] <sacarlson> Andy-at-home: I'm still fresh just had my coffee after just waking up 2 hours ago
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> Andy-at-home: I'm at work so I gotta do some fairly taxing stuff ;)
[06:13] <Andy-at-home> no coffee and the smokes arent helping keep my rage down
[06:14] <Andy-at-home> so how do I compress a directory with all its files and subdirectories and so it doesnt keep its file structure?
[06:14] <boomtnt> hey, can anyone help me with patching chipset ipw2200 for injecting with aircrack?
[06:14] <Flynn> here's a weird question I've always had...why is Ubuntu-er's often talk about coffee or beans?
[06:15] <ac7ss> Andy-at-home: Keep files and loose file structure?
[06:15] <Flynn> boomtnt: your going to want to go to backtrack
[06:15] <Flynn> boomtnt: your going to want to go to backtrack's irc channel
[06:15] <Andy-at-home> i need to go before I say something we will all regret
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> Flynn: coffee keeps you awake when you REALLY wanna crack something and its late
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> !patch | boomtnt
[06:17] <glitchd> anyone know of a setting in ubuntu 10.04 that would make my only my desktop display in b/w??
[06:17] <Flynn> ActionParsnip: I've never had a problem when I am in a shell.  I often have to force myself away.
[06:18] <play> glitchd, does the error persist on system restart?
[06:18] <glitchd> play, yes
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> Flynn: its like coffee in an office environment I guess
[06:18] <glitchd> play, i have had this problem before, i just dont remember how i fixed it last time
[06:18] <ac7ss> Andy-at-home: to keep everything 'tar -c /DIRECTORY |gz >archive.gz' Does that sound right?
[06:18] <Flynn> ActionParsnip: i guess
[06:18] <sacarlson> Andy-at-home:  cd /path/to/dir/to/compress; tar cvf filename.tar .
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> glitchd: press CTRL+ALT+F2 and run: metacity --replace
[06:19] <sacarlson> Andy-at-home: don't forget the "." at the end
[06:19] <Besogon> Andy-at-home: Found it
[06:19] <Andy-at-home> I done that and someone said that was wrong
[06:19] <glitchd> ActionParsnip, bam, brand new. thank you.
[06:19] <Besogon> Andy-at-home: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/716226
[06:19] <ac7ss> Andy-at-home  sacarlson: that's right.
[06:19] <Flynn> Andy-at-home: metacity replace will be for your window decorator
[06:19] <Andy-at-home> [06:12] sacarlson: Andy-at-home: that creates  a tar of a tar file
[06:20] <Andy-at-home> are you trying to screw with me?
[06:20] <Besogon> Andy-at-home: you can use '--wildcards' option with 'exclude' options too
[06:20] <Flynn> Andy-at-home: wrong person sorry
[06:20] <Andy-at-home> dunno how its take more than 5 seconds to find this
[06:21] <ac7ss> andy-at-home: to compress the tar file you can use gz
[06:21] <Flynn> I got to say I'm loving emacs -nw in ubuntu just a little
[06:21] <ohsix> you can also add z olol
[06:21] <ohsix> czvf
[06:21] <sacarlson> Andy-at-home: yes that might cause recusion so maybe beter to be one dir back of where you start.  tar cvf tarfile.tar ./path/to/compress
[06:21] <ohsix> but by the time you're throwing this many letters around, it's probably best to read the manual
[06:21] <ac7ss> andy-at-home: add a z to the cvf 'czvf'
[06:21] <administrator> hello
[06:22] <wizardken> any books guides on hardware?
[06:22] <wizardken> like how they work etc
[06:22] <ohsix> wikipedia :D
[06:22] <ac7ss> scarlson: I don't think tar compresses without the z option.
[06:22] <Flynn> Andy-at-home: your trying to extract a compressed file??  if you have a gui running, why not a little good oh' right clicking?
[06:22] <boomtnt> is there a different between cvf and czvf?
[06:22] <ohsix> boota2: it compresses the output with gzip when z is in there
[06:22] <Besogon> Andy-at-home: tar don't compress files actually. It make only a 'container' for them/ No compress files you should use filters gnuzip for example
[06:23] <Flynn> boomtnt: z is another argument added to the equation
[06:23] <Andy-at-home> thanks all, ill figure it out
[06:23]  * ac7ss loves pipes ||
[06:26] <natet> I'm having a problem setting up dual booting on my computer.
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> wizardken: i'd ask in ##hardware
[06:26] <wizardken> thanks
[06:26] <natet> I had a windows 7 install on /dev/sdb, and installed ubuntu on /dev/sda
[06:26] <natet> Grub doesn't see the windows partition.
[06:27] <sacarlson> ac7ss: true I like z that's what I normally use, and I tested it just now and I can do it with tar cvzf backup.gz .  from within the dir seems to still work with the "." at the end
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> natet: try: sudo apt-get -y install os-prober; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[06:27] <dpn`> howdy, anyone know why commands like <super>s wouldn't be working for me in compiz?
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> dpn`: its not defined as a shortcut in any of your active plugins
[06:28] <dpn`> ActionParsnip, well actually super-s does something weird with the shutdown button in lynx... so i changed it to super-x in my plugin and it still isn't working :(
[06:28] <Flynn> natet: gparted is great for partitioning while dualbooting in my experience the easy way.  grub will have to be fixed if installing windows on a already linux machine
[06:28] <Besogon> dpn`: you can tune compize for your taste
[06:28] <natet> No love.
[06:28] <dpn`> Well i've set up the keyboard shortcut and it's not working :)
[06:28] <natet> Flynn: Windows was installed first.
[06:28] <natet> os-prober was already installed.
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> natet: does it show windows in the final output?
[06:29] <natet> nope
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> natet: thats why I used ; instead of &&
[06:29] <Besogon> natet: May be you just haven't got Windows bootloader now
[06:29] <natet> Bootloader should still exist on /dev/sdb
[06:31] <ac7ss> is there an easy way to loop a command on the shell? (without writing a script that is.)
[06:31] <nikkii> if i install micro-httpd then i don't need apache?\
[06:31] <Murphant> Hi, I'm having trouble setting my default screen resolution in ubuntu 10.4 x64, I tried using nvidia x-server settings with sudo but it still won't work
[06:32] <nimrod[A]> ö.ö
[06:32] <nimrod[A]> anyone home?
[06:32] <nimrod[A]> :P
[06:32] <Flynn> hi
[06:32] <nimrod[A]> hello
[06:32] <nimrod[A]> :)
[06:32] <ac7ss> Nimrod[a]: no
[06:32] <sacarlson> ac7ss: depends maybe with find -exec
[06:32] <nimrod[A]> k
[06:32] <bazhang> nimrod[A], ubuntu support question?
[06:32] <nimrod[A]> yup
[06:32] <nimrod[A]> i have this pretty old computer
[06:32] <Flynn> ac7ss: what was the question??
[06:33] <nimrod[A]> and it refuses to boot any distro of ubuntu
[06:33] <bazhang> nimrod[A], on a single line please
[06:33] <Flynn> ac7ss: i'm good with find
[06:33] <nimrod[A]> wont even go to grub
[06:33] <nimrod[A]> oh
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> natet: is the windows partition currently mounted?
[06:33] <nimrod[A]> sorry :s
[06:33] <bazhang> nimrod[A], what are the specs of said computer
[06:33] <critical_max> ac7ss, you can do a "1-liner"
[06:33] <ac7ss> Flynn sacarlson: just trying to command line a loop 'echo Ping; sleep 30'
[06:34] <natet> ActionParsnip: it wasn't, but I mounted it and re-ran the os-prober and update-grub and still no dice.
[06:34] <critical_max> ac7ss:   for i in `cat myfile.txt`; do echo $i; done
[06:34] <critical_max> no script file needed
[06:34] <sacarlson> ac7ss: ping will loop and you can provide the time interval
[06:34] <critical_max> ac7ss: tell us more about what kind of loop you need though
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> natet: worth a shot
[06:35] <ac7ss> critical_max. thats pretty much it. I just want to repeat a command.
[06:35] <sacarlson> ac7ss: ping -i 30 google.com
[06:35] <natet> ActionParsnip: Yeah.  I've been trying every half baked thing I could find in the forums.
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> natet: thats all I know about gub (I don't dual boot so have zero issues with grub). Maybe others can contribute
[06:35] <nimrod[A]> (bazhang): would it be ok if i pasted a link to the specifications?
[06:35] <samuel__> hey everyone , i would like to delete an nfts partition from my hdd and reformat it to ext. i have downloaded gparted, but unsure in how to do this ?
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: could add:  -c 4     to that too ;)
[06:36] <bazhang> nimrod[A], paste.ubuntu.com please if more than a single line
[06:36] <nimrod[A]> ok
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> samuel__: ubuntu can do that on its own
[06:36] <critical_max> ac7ss: knowing more about what you're repeating would help specifically. There's also "watch [command]" to play with
[06:36] <ac7ss> sacarlson: not actually pinging.
[06:36] <sacarlson> ac7ss: ActionParsnip: yes you can have it time out after a count -c
[06:36] <natet> ActionParsnip: this is the first time I've had a problem dual booting.
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> samuel__: you don't need to download anything special
[06:36] <critical_max> ac7ss: the use cases do vary a bit based on what you're running, not all apps will accept the same jiggery
[06:36] <samuel__> actionparsnip: Then how do i do this ?
[06:37] <sacarlson> ac7ss: not actually pinging?  be more specific
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> samuel__: under system you will see gparted. As long as the ntfs partition is unmounted, you can do what you like with it
[06:37] <mungo-> metacity --replace doesn't work for me
[06:37] <ac7ss> 'cpufreq-info -c1|grep 'governor"'|sed 's/.* "//;s/".*//
[06:38] <critical_max> ac7ss: try "watch 10 'yourbigstringofcommands' "
[06:38] <ac7ss> is that more specific?
[06:38] <critical_max> ac7ss: yes that helps :)
[06:38] <critical_max> ac7ss: watch should probably cover that
[06:38] <samuel__> actionparsnip: alright , gparted is open , selected the hdd, now do i just right click and unmount my nfts partition ?
[06:38] <sacarlson> ac7ss: closer and you want to loop on what value?
[06:39] <ac7ss> I just want to repeat it after a ';sleep'
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> samuel__: yes, when you delete the partition it will destroy the data so make sure you have copied off all you need
[06:39] <Besogon> natet: Something that may help
[06:39] <hid3> Hello everyone. Any ideas how can I get my soundcard working? I lspci show this: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
[06:39] <natet> Besogon: Yes?
[06:40] <Kimmen> hid3: what does aplay -l give?
[06:40] <critical_max> ac7ss: while 1; do sleep 5s; watch [command]; done
[06:40] <sacarlson> ac7ss: in the time it took to ask you could have wrote the script
[06:40] <samuel__> Actionparsnip: ok , i have unmounted , should i delete it , or just "format to"
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> samuel__: indeed
[06:40] <critical_max> ac7ss, i couldn't get your pipe chain to run but try fleshing it out inside a 1-liner like the one I just pasted
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> hid3: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[06:41] <nimrod[A]> (bazhang):
[06:41] <nimrod[A]> http://paste.ubuntu.com/584156/
[06:41] <hid3> Kimmen: it gives this: aplay: device_list:207: no soundcards found...
[06:41] <critical_max> ac7ss: wait a second, i've got mixed up :P just put your command in... or just run it with "watch" without the loop surrounding, watch automatically sleeps
[06:41] <nimrod[A]> the pc is kind of outdated which is why i want to put ubuntu on it
[06:41] <dpn`> ActionParsnip, FWIW i needed to restart compiz after installing plugins
[06:41] <hid3> ActionParsnip: here's the output: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a4fac105c4c158727de03997ce2dcaf1408a040a
[06:41] <critical_max> so either "while 1; do sleep 5s; [command]; done"   OR   "watch [command]"
[06:42] <samuel__> actionparsnip: alright .. formatting now :) thanks :)
[06:42] <critical_max> ac7ss: ^
[06:42] <ac7ss> Got it with a while : ;do ..... ;done
[06:42] <critical_max> beautiful
[06:42] <ac7ss> thx.
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> dpn`: not something I use, causes too many headaches
[06:42] <critical_max> if you need to step through a text file to control a loop like that, use "for i in `cat textfile`; do stuff; done"
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> hid3: debian isn't supported here
[06:43] <critical_max> ac7ss: those few bits of glue will get you FAR :)
[06:43] <ac7ss> sacarlson: the point was to learn how. (I need monitors often for different things. just one shots.)
[06:43] <hid3> ActionParsnip: actually I have three identical PCs, two with Maverick and one with Debian/Squeeze. All have same problem... :(
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> hid3: can you run the script on the ubuntu systems and give the link generated please
[06:44] <the_5th_wheel> Howdy. I just upgraded from 8.04 to 10.04 By means of a fresh install. I use LTSP. And the upgraded terminals seem much slower. I noticed that my ltsp images arelike 600mb. Is that normal? It seems overly large
[06:44] <samuel__> actionparsnip: ok i have formatted it , now do i have to mount it again to see it in "my computer" ?
[06:44] <critical_max> ac7ss: one more caution: you should usually build your loop with "echo" to show your intended command strings, before letting it loose
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> samuel__: it should appear in the places menu, if you add it in /etc/fstab it will mount at boot
[06:44] <hid3> ActionParsnip: just a minute
[06:45] <critical_max> ac7ss: ex. while 1; do echo "rm -rf allmystuff"; done     will keep you safer before running the actual command...
[06:45] <critical_max> ac7ss: kind of a debugging method i guess
[06:45] <ohsix> theres also saferm, which will change rm to an alternative that will do extra checking of paths
[06:46] <critical_max> ohsix: i think he's just parsing cpufreq-info output
[06:46] <ac7ss> critical_max: too many quotes nested in there to escape easily. and it was just a grep/sed.
[06:46] <definity> Oi
[06:46] <critical_max> ac7ss: yeah, not so critical with that sort of thing, but you'll want to use it for potentially destructive commands eventually down the road.
[06:46] <ohsix> critical_max: i never miss an opportunity to mention safe-rm :]
[06:46] <bazhang> nimrod[A], looks good, more ram would be better obviously; could you boot the live cd and run lspci for the network cards?
[06:46] <critical_max> ohsix: absolutely, i'm checking it out now :)
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: and not using force
[06:46]  * ac7ss never scripts any rm with wildcards!
[06:47] <definity> what theame/ windows manager is this?
[06:47] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: that's a good practice too
[06:47] <definity> vhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/linux-top-command-used-in-tron-trailer/
[06:47] <definity> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/linux-top-command-used-in-tron-trailer/
[06:47] <FloodBot1> definity: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:47] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: as is rm path -options
[06:47] <bazhang> definity, its the top command
[06:47] <nimrod[A]> (bazhang): i used an ubuntu server disc, ill burn a desktop disc.
[06:47] <definity> the window manager?
[06:48] <definity> or theame?
[06:48] <Besogon> theame?
[06:48] <nimrod[A]> but i could use the server disc and it did install fine
[06:48] <sacarlson> ac7ss: I did find this but I can't find a way for a infinite loop http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=how_the_one_liner_for_loop_in_bash_goes&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1.
[06:48] <bazhang> definity, no, its a command you run to see processes in the terminal
[06:48] <sacarlson> ac7ss: I tried while [1]; do sleep 1; done but fails
[06:49] <definity> yeah but i asked what is the theam/ window manager running? do u know?
[06:49] <grindcrusher> try while true; etc.
[06:49] <critical_max> sacarlson: you have to use spaces in the conditionals if you use that syntax
[06:49] <critical_max> sacarlson:  like [ 1 ]
[06:49] <ac7ss> sacarlson: try 'while : ;do echo 1;sleep;done
[06:49] <sacarlson> critical_max: cool I'll try that
[06:51] <critical_max> sacarlson: I like "while 1" myself for a 1-liner, less typing
[06:51] <ac7ss> ok, easy one now: how do you echo a line up on the screen?
[06:51] <sacarlson> ac7ss: critical_max; yes this works while [ 1 ] ; do echo test; sleep 2 ; done
[06:51] <critical_max> ac7ss: by line up do you mean repeat the last commadn entered?
[06:51] <ac7ss> Like Critical_Max: while :
[06:52] <critical_max> ac7ss: i don't get your question i'm afraid.
[06:53] <ac7ss> Critical_Max: no I want to move the cursor point up the screen by 1
[06:53] <critical_max> ac7ss, you want to print an empty line? "echo"
[06:54] <critical_max> ac7ss, still not following you properly
[06:54] <critical_max> ac7ss, the cursor in bash is just a text entry point, if you're trying to do something like select text you need to specify that.
[06:55] <sacarlson> critical_max: I just tested with while 1; do echo test; sleep 2 ; done  and it fails
[06:55] <ac7ss> Critical_Max: I want to move the cursor up. so the next echo is on top of the last line.
[06:55] <gusg> I'd like to make my display dimmer. Where can I adjust things like gamma, brightness, and contrast?
[06:55] <critical_max> sacarlson: oops, use :   or [ 1 ] i guess
[06:55] <cosmo> how long you guys think till FF4 64 bit is available in the repositories?
[06:55] <critical_max> or while true
[06:55] <ac7ss> I can do it with clear, but not really what I wanted
[06:55] <critical_max> i forget ><
[06:55] <charlos> hello all
[06:56] <charlos> can to help me ?
[06:56] <critical_max> ac7ss: you want to print a line on top of a line that's already printed?
[06:56] <charlos> os[Linux 2.6.35-28-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "maverick" 10.10] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  T3200  @ 2.00GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.00GHz] mem[Physical: 2.9GB, 88.4% free] disk[Total: 177.5GB, 72.8% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[06:56] <critical_max> ac7ss: in overlay fashion?
[06:56] <ac7ss> Critical_Max: THATS It!
[06:56] <sacarlson> ac7ss: critical_max: I think it would just require a arrow up or some control caricter to echo to move up one line before the next loop
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> charlos: try stating your issue instead of spamming the channel
[06:56] <critical_max> ac7ss: any reason you can't just print them both at once?
[06:56] <charlos> how to make install for on webcam  ?
[06:56] <Tm_T> cosmo: it is available in PPA of Mozilla team, "/msg ubottu ff4" for more information
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> charlos: then all that is of zero value if you just want help with your webcam
[06:57] <ac7ss> scarlson: Thats the idea, I need to know the /n equivilant for that.
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> charlos: if you install and run cheese, do you see yourself
[06:57] <charlos> oh
[06:57] <charlos> wait i see now
[06:57] <cosmo> Tm_T, the 64 bit version?
[06:58] <charlos> yes work cheesee on webcam is okey
[06:58] <Tm_T> cosmo: yes
[06:58] <critical_max> ac7ss, looks like the emacs mode controls are only within the line...still looking for ya
[06:58] <charlos> but why not work for pidgin  ?
[06:58] <cosmo> sweet
[06:58] <critical_max> ac7ss, i still think you should be printing both at once as a more proper solution
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> charlos: cool, then all is well
[06:58]  * ac7ss doesn't ask the easy questions.
[06:58] <Jordan_U> sacarlson: critical_max: ac7ss: "while true; do foo; done" is clearest IMHO
[06:59] <ac7ss> Critical_Max: I want to overwrite the old info.
[06:59] <critical_max> Jordan_U, i agree. i was confusing "while 1" and "while true" syntax
[06:59] <critical_max> ac7ss: use clear
[06:59] <critical_max> ac7ss: or say why it doesn't work so we can suggest something more useful :)
[06:59] <charlos> oh thanks
[06:59] <critical_max> ac7ss: watch has built in "clear" type functionality, too
[06:59] <nimrod[A]> (bazhang): it wont boot a live desktop cd, but it will boot and install using an ubuntu server disc
[06:59] <Jordan_U> ac7ss: What is your end goal?
[07:00] <charlos> now I see pidgin for on webcam if work ... I will tell u, ok
[07:00] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: yes that also works while true; do echo test; sleep 2 ; done , and I have writen code that did that move cusor up one and overwrite before and forget the control code
[07:00] <charlos> but how to call webcam on pidgin  ?
[07:00] <nimrod[A]> it showed the purple screen for a second then went black and is doing nothing now
[07:00] <ac7ss> Jordan_U: I want to have an updating status on the screen.
[07:00] <nimrod[A]> except spinning the dc
[07:00] <nimrod[A]> cd**
[07:00] <bazhang> nimrod[A], did you md5 the iso? burn at low speed, and do the disk integrity check? the alternate cd might work if you  have done all those things and still have issues
[07:00] <charlos> my friend want see me but I dont know where is click on call webcam in pidgin  ?
[07:01] <nimrod[A]> ive done the alt cd before
[07:01] <ac7ss> I think I will stay with clear
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> charlos: maybe there is a setting in pidgin to configure video before it will work...
[07:01] <nimrod[A]> the alt cd will install but it wont boot at all
[07:01] <Besogon> charlos: I think Pidgin don't support webcam
[07:01] <sacarlson> ac7ss: well it will be the only thing running in that term so I guess the clear should work as good as any
[07:01] <charlos> yes ?
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> charlos: not sure, look in the options / preferences
[07:01] <nimrod[A]> i used an iso from the ubuntu site bruned and did a disc verify using imgburn at 4x write speed
[07:01] <charlos> I must reinstaller in Pidgin again install and after work on webcam , really ?
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> Besogon: the new one does
[07:01] <nimrod[A]> burned**
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> charlos: what protocol are you using  to chat?
[07:02] <charlos> i dont know
[07:02] <charlos> i am never trined
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> charlos: msn? yahoo? Aol?
[07:02] <charlos> help me how to command see for you ?
[07:02] <charlos> yahoo
[07:02] <critical_max> ac7ss, I installed cpufreq-info but your grep + sed isn't working so well for me. I really think "watch" is the best solution given the info we have.
[07:02] <charlos> pidgin for yahoo  and msn
[07:02] <bazhang> nimrod[A], well you could always install ubuntu-desktop package on top of the server install, but its odd that none of the other options are working
[07:02] <nimrod[A]> well
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> charlos: you may need to use gyache then.
[07:02] <nimrod[A]> the server wont even boot for me to be able to do so
[07:02] <critical_max> ac7ss, can you tell me what info you're trying to pull out of the complete cpufreq-info -c1 output?
[07:03] <charlos> ActionParsnip> privat me
[07:04] <nimrod[A]> ivedone this with Debian5, kubuntu, and others, all do the same thing, i just figured i'd rekindle the flame lol
[07:04] <critical_max> ac7ss, i will build a 'watch' command that does what you want in the simplest fashion
[07:04] <ac7ss> critical_max: it grabs the governor from the full text. try the command without the grep.
[07:04] <critical_max> ok, so for example "The governor "ondemand" ..." you're looking for "ondemand" in that case?
[07:05] <charlos> ActionParsnip> not work apt-cache search gyache
[07:05] <charlos> nothing see
[07:05] <charlos> no have
[07:05] <definity> anybody have any experience with Solar Os
[07:05] <definity> ?
[07:06] <bazhang> !ot | definity
[07:06] <ac7ss> critical_max: I did it with wait. just had to escape some of the "s
[07:06] <critical_max> ac7ss, watch 'cpufreq-info -p | cut -f 3 -d " "'
[07:06] <critical_max> ac7ss, that's all it takes
[07:06] <Besogon> definity: Ypu are at wrong place :)
[07:06] <Besogon> you
[07:06] <critical_max> a combination of watch (whose entire job is to sleep and clear and rerun) and cut
[07:06] <definity> cant find an irc for it
[07:06] <critical_max> also i used the -p switch to just spit out the current governor
[07:07] <charlos> gyachi  ?
[07:07] <critical_max> ac7ss, and cut is just going to the third field given a delimiter of a space
[07:07] <ac7ss> critical_max: Ok, that cleaned it up. THX
[07:07] <bazhang> definity, that does not make this the solar os support channel; try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:07] <critical_max> ac7ss, my pleasure
[07:07] <bazhang> !alis > definity
[07:07] <Syria> Hey, after editing a php file using nano what should i do to save the changes?
[07:07] <nimrod[A]> ctrl+x
[07:07] <Kimmen> or ctrl+o
[07:08] <Syria> nimrod Kimmen thnx guys
[07:08] <Kimmen> np
[07:08] <Besogon> Syria: ;D
[07:08] <nimrod[A]> yw
[07:08] <critical_max> ac7ss, watch -n 10    to make it 10 seconds instead of default 2, or w/e you want
[07:09] <charlos> ActionParsnip> hey how to command for gyachi-1.2.7.tar.gz   ?
[07:09] <critical_max> basically i only go to "while true" loops if I can't get "watch" to do the job.
[07:09] <ohsix> Syria: there are some instructions for common commands at the bottom, ^ = ctrl
[07:10] <charlos> ActionParsnip> say me please
[07:10] <ac7ss> critical_max: I was having trouble with a trailing ; and having to escape many of the quotes.
[07:10] <nimrod[A]> but, i have no idea why my old ass computer wont boot ubuntu, i guess its technilogically impaired
[07:11] <arvut> nimrod[A]: find another distro that will =)
[07:11] <critical_max> ac7ss, yeah sed gets unreadable in a hurry
[07:11] <Kimmen> charlos: this will extract the file: tar -xzvf gyachi-1.2.7.tar.gz
[07:11] <nimrod[A]> ive tried others and none work lol
[07:11] <critical_max> nimrod[A], try Damn Small Linux, it will run on almost anything
[07:11] <arvut> is is a 386 or something?
[07:11] <charlos> and after ?
[07:11]  * nimrod[A] installs slackware
[07:11] <nimrod[A]> *lol*
[07:11] <Kimmen> charlos: look for a README file
[07:12] <arvut> critical_max: wont run on my old 386 :P
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> charlos: there may be a ppa with it too
[07:12] <arvut> made for msdos5.0
[07:12] <critical_max> arvut, i knew someone was going to say that haha
[07:12] <ac7ss> critical_max: sed 's/\/\.\\//'
[07:12] <nimrod[A]> anyway
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> charlos: or (easier) use msn messenger and install amsn using standard ubuntu repos
[07:12] <arvut> critical_max: I knew that would be me ^_^
[07:12] <charlos> i have amsn
[07:12] <alkisg> What packages do I have to remove to *disable* NTFS volume mounting?
[07:12] <alkisg> $ dpkg -l '*ntfs*' | grep ^ii
[07:12] <alkisg> $ mount | grep /dev/sda1
[07:12] <alkisg> /dev/sda1 on /media/Vista type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1010,gid=1010,dmask=0077)
[07:12] <FloodBot1> alkisg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <charlos> but pidgin want work on webcam
[07:12] <nimrod[A]> thanks for the help guys, i guess ill figure it out or scrap the junker :P
[07:12] <charlos> im dont tar -xzvf gyachi-1.2.7.tar.gz
[07:13] <charlos> and after what command ?
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> charlos: i know it does for some protocols, not all
[07:13] <critical_max> arvut, i had edgy on a pentium ii for years
[07:13] <charlos> how to see protocol  ?  command  ifconfig  ?
[07:13]  * ac7ss has an old laptop he cannot load linux onto.
[07:13] <critical_max> arvut, 128 mb ram + icewm + firefox = surprisingly usable
[07:14] <ac7ss> my laptop has no usb, cd, only a 50meg hdd.
[07:14] <arvut> critical_max: now that I can understand. but try to find a linux distro that will run on a machine with 2mb ram, 20mb hdd & a "superfast cpu" (speed not specified in bios)
[07:15] <critical_max> arvut, hmm... PC/M? :)
[07:15] <Kimmen> then it is a 8-20MHz 386 ;)
[07:15] <Kimmen> possibly :P
[07:15] <critical_max> i'd rock the LOGO Turtle all over that box.
[07:15] <ac7ss> Thinking of scrapping the machine and using the monitor as an aux screen.
[07:15] <lolcat> arvut: How can you get 2MB ram on a Sandy Bridge mobo?
[07:16] <ac7ss> arvut: that sounds like my laptop!
[07:16] <arvut> its a UniŦron machine, they made copies of old macs in the 80's, Apple II for example.
[07:16]  * critical_max put a mid 90s thinkpad online with ubuntu, working wireless, never again though
[07:17] <arvut> lolcat: who said anything about a sandy bridge mobo? =P
[07:17] <critical_max> arvut, woah, rare bear... 68000?  and now we are well off topic :)
[07:17] <ac7ss> critical_max: Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
[07:17] <lolcat> arvut: It is the only fast cpu out there
[07:18] <arvut> critical_max: #offtopic made no sense so I came here, looks like no help is needed so lets continue ;)
[07:18] <critical_max> haha
[07:18] <arvut> lolcat, you missed the "not specified in bios" part, did ya?
[07:19] <critical_max> well if it's a mac clone, it doesn't have BIOS
[07:19] <critical_max> arvut, hell it doesn't even have OpenFirmware yet...
[07:19] <arvut> bios actually says "superfast cpu" or something like that..
[07:19] <arvut> so I can't be sure its a 386
[07:20] <lolcat> arvut: Bios doesnt specify how fast the sandy is
[07:20] <critical_max> arvut, if it's a mac clone it's definitely a motorola 68k family, and at 2mb likely the 68000
[07:20] <ac7ss> There are so many commands in linux, it is very helpful to ask around here.
[07:20] <arvut> lolcat, you make me l0l >.> its in the bios of a machine from the 80's!
[07:20] <critical_max> arvut, if it's an apple II clone it depends on what model they are cloning, i don't remember the main apple II chip family
[07:21] <lolcat> arvut: Sandy Bridge isn't that old
[07:21] <arvut> I think its more of a pc clone, since it came with M$Ð0$ 5.0
[07:21] <critical_max> ac7ss, there sure are, but you can take all this bash trix right to Redhat now if you need to and most of it to Mac OS X :) that's the beauty of it
[07:21] <Kimmen> lolcat: that's why he had to mod it to be able to run 2MB RAM
[07:22] <critical_max> arvut, gotcha, "PC compatible"... does it have a Turbo Button?!
[07:22] <lolcat> arvut: There is NO fast cpu's from '80
[07:22] <Kimmen> oh, those are cool
[07:22] <arvut> critical_max: I wish..
[07:22] <ohsix> they were in the 80s
[07:23] <arvut> had one on my first pc tho, from 40mhz to 80mhz with a shiny lcd display ^.^
[07:23] <ac7ss> critical_max: True there.
[07:23] <Adam1213> the video tests in systems testing don't work + java 3d won't work on my current installation of ubuntu but it works when i run the live version of ubuntu - how can I find out the difference between the two and use it to fix my graphics / can I get ubunutu to fix itself
[07:23] <arvut> this one is.. slim
[07:23] <jmirra> why was there a turbo button on old pc's?
[07:24] <Kimmen> to get them into turbo mode
[07:24] <Nalkem> moin moin
[07:24] <jmirra> Kimmen:  was there ever a need to not be in turbo mode?
[07:24] <Kimmen> nope
[07:24] <Jordan_U> !ot | jmirra
[07:24] <ac7ss> jmirra: I just wrote a script to drop out of turbo mode.
[07:25] <ohsix> people didn't know if it was safe to run them at full speed the whole time
[07:25] <Kimmen> you could disable turbo mode because some programs ran too fast in rubo mode
[07:25] <Syria> !phpmyadmin
[07:25] <ohsix> plus a lot of old games would break in turbo mode
[07:25] <arvut> 40x40x5cm, two floppies a harddrive and room for two external cards. currently I have an ethernet and a vga card installed =)
[07:26] <arvut> UniTron N°26 System
[07:26] <arvut> thats what its called
[07:27] <keerthi_> exit
[07:27] <ac7ss> try /quit
[07:27] <the_file> is there anything I can use other than paypal to send money?.
[07:28] <ac7ss> usps
[07:28] <Kimmen> your bank
[07:28] <silv3r_m00n> hi there , I have a non-english pdf , but when I copy text from it , it becomes garbage
[07:28] <alkisg> If I manually delete ntfs.ko, then I can disable access to ntfs volumes. But blacklisting it won't work. Why?
[07:28] <the_file> kimmen: an online service cause I don't got a bank
[07:28] <silv3r_m00n> how to copy text from non-english pdf files ?
[07:28] <maxillusionist> ac7ss are you charging somebody $$$
[07:28] <maxillusionist> don't do it
[07:29] <the_file> silv3r_m00n: just copy the ascii.....
[07:29] <Besogon> silv3r_m00n: Install official PDF reader. From abode
[07:29] <maxillusionist> linux is free
[07:29] <Besogon> adobe
[07:29] <ac7ss> maxillusionist: I was giving someone an alternative to paypal.
[07:29] <maxillusionist> ok
[07:29] <maxillusionist> i thought otherwise
[07:29] <maxillusionist> LOL
[07:29] <silv3r_m00n> Besogon: yes I am using adobe acrobat reader
[07:30] <silv3r_m00n> it can open it fine , but when copy pasted elsewhere , it gets ruined
[07:30] <maxillusionist> well how many here like open source
[07:30] <ac7ss> maxillusionist: I only charge for my time. I am on the clock at work now.
[07:30] <alkisg> silv3r_m00n: some PDF files don't contain the maps required for copy to work. You can't do anything about it other than using some ORC or hex-editing the pdf to fix the winansiencoding of the font.
[07:30] <maxillusionist> so you are a freelancer
[07:30] <maxillusionist> wow
[07:30] <maxillusionist> you must be developing open source softwares
[07:30] <ac7ss> maxillusionist: no, I am a rail controller, killing the slow time on my shift.
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> maxillusionist: in what sense do you mean?
[07:31] <ac7ss> maxillusionist: I am a linux hobbiest.
[07:31] <hellslinger> anyone here use the faenza icon ppa?
[07:31] <maxillusionist> not a linux developer
[07:31] <maxillusionist> still fine
[07:31] <sacarlson> ac7ss: but what about the derailments if your not watching?
[07:31] <maxillusionist> but i am alinux programmer
[07:31] <maxillusionist> i love it
[07:32] <ejv> can you guys take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please? thanks :)
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | hellslinger
[07:32] <maxillusionist> ActionParnship it means freelancing works for making softwares
[07:33] <maxillusionist> or you have clients and they give you $$ for making softwares for them
[07:33] <ac7ss> sacarlson: they de-rail on their own. I just have to fix it after.
[07:33] <cosmo> hmmm I'm thinking I need to do a fresh install but I need to figure out how to back up the important stuff, I really dont want to have to re-download all this non-repository stuff
[07:33] <ejv> was there a question in there cosmo ?
[07:33]  * ac7ss works in a control center, the operators on the trains have to avoid the crashes.
[07:33] <maxillusionist> ubottu have you ever made linux from scratch
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> maxillusionist: cool, much better to be specific like that
[07:33] <maxillusionist> ok
[07:34] <maxillusionist> it was just something i meant
[07:34] <nikkii> "The output directory 'logs' has to be set world-writable to allow the
[07:34] <maxillusionist> well i love c/c++
[07:34] <nikkii> web-server to dump log files and traces in there." how do i do this?
[07:34] <maxillusionist> presently working at java
[07:34] <ejv> maxillusionist: please move any non-ubuntu support chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:35] <arvut> ejv: forcemove would be rude.
[07:35] <critical_max> nikkii, best way is to find out what user/group your webserver is running as. Set ownership of that directory to match, then allow user to write to it
[07:35] <Andy-at-home> guys, I receiving the error 'Your defined data root directory, /var/webappdata1/, is not writable. Please make the directory if it does not exist, or give ownership of the directory to the web server user if it does.'
[07:35] <Andy-at-home> in the top program I have two users (root and apache) that run httpd
[07:35] <ejv> arvut: pardon?
[07:35] <Andy-at-home> i used chmod -R 777 webappdata1 and chown -R apache webappdata1 but I'm still receiving the error
[07:35] <cosmo> ejv, yeah anyone know any guides for backing up your important stuff, as well as one for the correct way to set up things like a home partition, I tend to be lost on manually setting gparted
[07:36] <Karen_m> i created a thumbdrive persistent install of Ubuntu, however when the machine is booting up, I get the Ubuntu screen and it just rotates the red/white dots forever... (at least it's been 5 minutes)
[07:36] <nikkii> critical_max, how do i find out what user/group my webserver is running as?
[07:36] <maxillusionist> ejv i was just telling that it is  good idea to develop free softwares
[07:36] <critical_max> nikkii, is it apache?
[07:36] <maxillusionist> an dit is good all the time
[07:36] <Starminn> How can I set an executable to just automatically "Run" instead of prompting me every time?
[07:36] <maxillusionist> *and
[07:36] <nikkii> critical_max, it's micro-httpd
[07:36] <ejv> cosmo: typically stuff in /home and /etc are *most* important to people, I would look into backing those up, as for partitioning: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[07:37] <sacarlson> Andy-at-home: strange I thought the default apache install was user www-data
[07:37] <critical_max> nikkii, something like "ps -ef|grep micro-httpd"
[07:37] <ejv> maxillusionist: that's fine, just do it in the offtopic channel.
[07:37] <wizardken> can logical partitions have a mount point?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: make a launcher for it, may help
[07:37] <ac7ss> wizardken:yes.
[07:37] <Karen_m> does anyone know?
[07:37] <hellslinger> is there an irc channel for ubuntu themes and artwork?
[07:37] <Andy-at-home> lol, ;)
[07:38] <ejv> !patience | Karen_m
[07:38] <critical_max> nikkii, first word in that line is the user it's running under
[07:38] <maxillusionist> ok ejv  but when you will have your own hardware and linux drivers will not support it then you will find me
[07:38] <critical_max> Karen_m, if it's an old machine with slow/little RAM, it can take aaaages
[07:38] <shirokko> Hi, is it possible to find out the ip of a windows smb share?
[07:38] <maxillusionist> then i will help you out to make a driver for you
[07:39] <hellslinger> Karen_m, getting it to show boot output and not the splash screen
[07:39] <bazhang> !ot | maxillusionist
[07:39] <hellslinger> might be helpful
[07:39] <ejv> not to be rude maxillusionist, but i don't really care, please move along. :)
[07:39] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Ah, perfect.
[07:39] <Karen_m> critical_max, it is a fast machine.. I just wanted a persistent USB install.. :(
[07:39] <maxillusionist> shirokko what is the port used for smb
[07:39] <Karen_m> with the live usb iso, it loads in seconds
[07:40] <maxillusionist> the port no
[07:40] <Karen_m> hellslinger, how do you see it?
[07:40] <shirokko> maxillusionist: I used the default one
[07:40] <maxillusionist> then make a bash script to search for live hosts
[07:40] <maxillusionist> easy
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> shirokko: shares don't have IPs. The host does and the shares are managed by samba which runs on a port
[07:40] <sacarlson> shirokko: there must be easier ways but for one to monitor with wireshark to see what trafic it comes from if you can't just get the ip from the windows box itself
[07:40] <critical_max> Karen_m, ok, it's probably some sort of driver issue. Unfortunately I am not familiar with the persistent installations. perhaps someone who is can be of assistance.
[07:40] <maxillusionist> then it might show live hosts isn't it
[07:41] <shirokko> ActionParsnip: yeah, I need the hosts ip
[07:41] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: How large is the USB drive?
[07:41] <hellslinger> Karen_m, I forget, does the grub bootmenu appear when you attempt to boot?
[07:41] <Karen_m> 4GB
[07:41] <Karen_m> hellslinger, it auto-boots .. I think it does display but very quick
[07:42] <maxillusionist> sacarlson you use wireshark
[07:42] <maxillusionist> hacker boy
[07:42] <sacarlson> maxillusionist: yes
[07:42] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: That's enough for a normal install, which I prefer to a persistant Live install.
[07:42] <critical_max> shirokko, if you want to find the port use "sudo netstat -plutn|grep smb"
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> shirokko: if you are connected to a share you can run: mount  a
[07:42] <Karen_m> Jordan_U, how do you install to the USB drive?
[07:43] <critical_max> shirokko, that command will also show you what IP smbd is bound to (Likely binding to ALL on the interface, indicated by :::[port])
[07:43] <hellslinger> Karen_m, if you can get it to pause when the boot options appear, press ctrl-x (if I'm not mistaken) on the line of boot and remove the "quiet" and "splash" options from the kernel line
[07:43] <JeeM0edErr> I wanne Suck All Boys
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> Sorry: mount     and see the hostname, dig the hostname to see the IP
[07:43] <sacarlson> maxillusionist: in this case maybe sudo netstat -pant would be better for shirokko ?
[07:44] <critical_max> sacarlson, ahh i missed that shirokko is on the client side...whoops!
[07:44] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: Easiest way is to boot from a LiveCD or another LiveUSB and do a normal install. If you have enough RAM (> 1GiB) you can also install from the same USB you booted from, but that's more difficult.
[07:45] <Karen_m> Jordan_U, I would need to install from the USB i'm running on.  I do not have a cdrom in the machine
[07:45] <Karen_m> and I only have 1 thumbdrive
[07:45] <shirokko> maxillusionist: got it, thanks
[07:45] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: How much RAM do you have?
[07:46] <Karen_m> 4GB
[07:46] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: I almost wish you had never told me how to customize the icons... :( lol.
[07:47]  * Starminn is spending a little too much time customizing icons in GIMP... :)
[07:47] <critical_max> Starminn, there's about 1000 open source projects that would LOVE icon help :)
[07:48] <Starminn> critical_max: Only 1,000? :D
[07:48] <cosmo> I have yet to really see an icon set that blows me away
[07:49] <critical_max> The BeOS icon set was very delicious
[07:50] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: You need to pass the parameter "toram" to the kernel at boot, I'm not sure how to do that with a LiveUSB created by Startup Disk Creator / Unetbootin.
[07:50] <abhijain> how can i check cashe images in firefox which i browsed in past time
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: haha well, the OS is very customizable so go nuts buddy  ;-)
[07:51] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: I know.  Haha.
[07:52] <mofaph> hi, all. what's that /boot/abi-*-generic use for?
[07:52] <Starminn> In Windows I used hacky stuff for customizations. In this, there's too much stuff I go, "Ooo, shiny" about. Almost too easy.
[07:52] <Karen_m> that toram gives me something to search on google, thank you!
[07:52] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: You're welcome.
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> starcoder: welcome to "choice"
[07:54] <ajin> hello
[07:55] <hemza> I need to add swap partition
[07:55] <ajin> hemza: ok, just do it
[07:55] <ajin> go ahead
[07:56] <critical_max> abhijain, ~/.mozilla/firefox/vkuuxfit.default/Cache/
[07:57] <critical_max> abhijain, your exact profile directory will vary of course
[07:57] <ajin> whois ajin
[07:58] <abhijain> critical_max: i dont know how to acess this directory
[07:59] <critical_max> abhijain, ~ is your home folder, make sure nautilus is showing hidden files
[07:59] <ajin> hello
[07:59] <critical_max> abhijain, .mozilla in your home folder, then /firefox/[your profile]/Cache
[07:59] <abhijain> critical_max: ok
[08:00] <critical_max> abhijain, Edit > Preferences > Show hidden and backup files in nautilus file browser
[08:00] <critical_max> that will let you into .mozilla through the file browser
[08:01] <hemza> is it possible to upgrade to mozilla firefox4
[08:01] <hosein> hi people! I tried to install ZendStudio and Zend Server CE on ubuntu. Now I am running Studio and Server seem's to be installed. but I and Studio can  not create any dir or file on www root directory with this error: "Parent of resource: /var/www/index.html is marked as read-only./var/www/index.html (Permission denied)"
[08:02] <Tm_T> !fx4 | hemza
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> critical_max: or press CTRL+H life goes faster if you unglue your hand from the mouse
[08:02] <Karen_m> !toram
[08:02] <Karen_m> !toram | Karen_m
[08:02] <Besogon> People. How to pronunciate 'WiMAX' correct?
[08:02] <critical_max> !sudo |hosein
[08:02] <puck1> I am having problems printing large PDFs to a Xerox Phaser 6280DN Printer.  I keep getting this msg "/usr/lib/cups/filter/cpdftocps failed"   I am using the ppd file from Xerox and am sure it is the correct one.  Everything else prints fine just not large pdfs.  I don't have much experience diagnosing problems with printing please help.
[08:02] <ejv> hosein: also, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[08:03] <critical_max> hosein, gksudo to launch your studio app might do it
[08:03] <critical_max> excuse me, gksu
[08:03] <hemza> !fx4
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> critical_max: same difference
[08:04] <critical_max> puck1, check out /var/log/cups/error_log yet?
[08:04] <hemza> i need to add a swop partition
[08:04] <critical_max> ActionParsnip, oh, good
[08:04] <critical_max> !partitioning hemza
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> critical_max: i believe one is a sy
[08:05] <critical_max> hah. short answer: use a Live CD to repartition and make swap larger
[08:05] <Andy-at-home> how can I find the username that is running apache?
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Symlink but i could be wrong
[08:05] <hemza> !patitioning
[08:05] <critical_max> Andy-at-home, "ps -ef" and look for httpd
[08:06] <critical_max> Andy-at-home, user is in first column
[08:06] <critical_max> hemza, you can repartition non destructively. how much RAM do you have? swap doesn't need to be much more than 2x RAM or so
[08:07] <hemza> critical_max, 2 GB
[08:07] <critical_max> hemza, and what size is your swap at the moment?
[08:07] <hemza> critical_max, no swap at this moment
[08:08] <hosein> !gksu
[08:08] <critical_max> hemza, is there a swap partition sitting unused on the drive? if so "sudo swapon" will turn it on
[08:08] <critical_max> hemza, otherwise use a current Ubuntu installer CD to resize a partition that  has free space, then create a swap partition of 4GB
[08:09] <hemza> critical_max, No
[08:09] <Andy-at-home> thanks, it was what I thought
[08:09] <critical_max> hemza, ok, installer has you covered then.
[08:09] <critical_max> hemza, just take 4gb from your other partition and make a new one of type swap, the kernel will recognize it on next booth
[08:09] <critical_max> boot*
[08:10] <abhijain> critical_max: there is no such directory /.mozilla in /home folder
[08:10] <critical_max> your home folder, not the /home folder
[08:10] <Andy-at-home> when I visit my web app site I get the error... 'Your defined data root directory, /var/webappdata/, is not writable.' I can see it has 777 and the apache user is owner, what else could it be?
[08:10] <critical_max> /home/abhijain or whatnot
[08:10] <hemza> critical_max, I can use gparted to create new partition and formatted to swap. but how to recognize it?
[08:11] <critical_max> Andy-at-home, it could be php permissions, php by default is very restrictive
[08:11] <critical_max> Andy-at-home, check your php config
[08:11] <abhijain> critical_max: yes /home/abhishek/ ???
[08:11] <abhijain> critical_max: i dont have such folder
[08:11] <critical_max> hemza, it should just be recognized. look up swapon if it's not.
[08:12] <critical_max> abhijain, if you don't have /home/abhishek/.mozilla i don't know where it is. sorry.
[08:12] <nikkii> has anyone tried deploying glasnost?
[08:12] <bullgard4> What is the opposite to "established connection"? '~$ sudo netstat -tap' outputs: "Active Internet connections (servers and established)'."
[08:12] <Andy-at-home> critical_max, what should I be looking for?
[08:13] <critical_max> Andy-at-home, "php apache write permissions" would be a good google. It's been a while and I don't have the answer in my head.
[08:13] <critical_max> it's a dirt common problem though for new installs
[08:13] <[deXter]> hey all
[08:13] <critical_max> solved through the php config as i recall
[08:13] <[deXter]> does anyone know where exactly are the gnome menu items stored
[08:14] <abhijain> critical_max: dont have
[08:14] <abhijain> critical_max: thanku
[08:14] <Besogon> [deXter]: It has a lot of locations
[08:14] <critical_max> [deXter], System > Preferences > Main Menu lets you edit them
[08:14] <critical_max> in detail
[08:14] <[deXter]> critical_max: Well not really
[08:14] <Besogon> [deXter]: It has local config and global one
[08:14] <bullgard4> [deXter]: Please read about 'gconf'.
[08:14] <[deXter]> critical_max: It doesn't allow (me) to rename and delete folders
[08:15] <boat7> gconf
[08:15] <[deXter]> bullgard4: I don't want to use gconf, I want to browse the folder using the terminal or nautilus
[08:15] <samuel__> Hey everyone, I have formatted a partition of my harddrive to ext4 with gparted, but now i cant use it, as it belongs to root, how can i change this ?
[08:16] <critical_max> [deXter], I don't think you can, I think it's all in the gconf registry.
[08:16] <[deXter]> O.o
[08:16] <Karen_m> Jordan_U, how do I know if it successfully loaded TO RAM?
[08:16] <critical_max> [deXter], most people's least favorite gnome feature, yeah, i know
[08:16] <[deXter]> critical_max: Well the shortcut files must be stored *somewhere*
[08:16] <ohsix> [deXter]: changes are cached in your user directory, the .desktop files for individual entries are in /usr/share/applications/
[08:16] <hosein>  critical_max: Ok thx. And now ZStudio can create files but I can not!
[08:17] <Besogon> [deXter]: listen. Local files are located in ~/.config/menus and ~/.local/icons
[08:17] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: You'll be able to unmount (and even remove) the flash drive.
[08:17] <[deXter]> ohsix: Thanks :)
[08:17] <Murphant> I'm having trouble setting my default screen resolution in ubuntu 10.4 x64, I tried using nvidia x-server settings with sudo but it still won't work
[08:17] <[deXter]> Besogon: Thanks, that's what I needed :)
[08:17] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: What is the output of "cat /proc/cmdline"?
[08:17] <Murphant> is there a way to check what config file is read at startup?
[08:17] <critical_max> oh wow, .config is still used? I had just checked all through all of .gconf and .gnome2..
[08:17] <ohsix> [deXter]: you can ask the package manager for all sorts of things, dpkg -L package will list all the files, if it's something in the menu it'll have a .desktop file with it
[08:17] <critical_max> my bad.
[08:18] <[deXter]> ohsix: Cool, thanks. :)
[08:18] <bullgard4> Murphant: Difficult. You can consult dmesg for a partial answer.
[08:19] <critical_max> Murphant, indeed, here be dragons. Is there something not working with System > Preferences > Monitors?
[08:19] <adamkex> So if I have RAID 1 on a computer, and one out of two of the hard drives fail, what happens to the second one?
[08:19] <Besogon> [deXter]: look more for menu managing http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/
[08:19] <Murphant> critical_max, my monitor never seems to be recognized
[08:20] <[deXter]> Besogon: Oh, forgot about freedesktop.org. Thanks.
[08:20] <critical_max> Murphant, that's not normally a blocker. mine shows up unrecognized but 'just works'. as do most all LCDs
[08:20] <Murphant> but I can change the config manually on each boot, no problem
[08:21] <Murphant> critical_max but I tried "save to x configuration file" even with sudo and it doesn't seem to care
[08:22] <critical_max> Murphant, that sort of thing is a nightmare from the past. Have you tried just removing the Nvidia driver, using the Ubuntu "Restricted hardware driver" manager to install its choice of Nvidia driver and go from there?
[08:22] <Murphant> critical_max, apparently saves to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:23] <bullgard4> What is the opposite to "established connection"? '~$ sudo netstat -tap' outputs: "Active Internet connections (servers and established)'."
[08:23] <ac7ss> I cannot change my desktop wallpaper!?!? I am using gnome, but gconftool is pointing at something other than the wallpaper I want to use. How can I find out where it is being set from?
[08:23] <Murphant> critical_max, no, I haven't tried that, I just might
[08:23] <critical_max> Murphant, I would highly suggest doing that. That way you have a known state to work from
[08:24] <bazZ666> moin, ist es möglich ein ubuntu auf einem usb stick zu installieren über eine virtual box?
[08:24] <bullgard4> bazZ666: Ja.
[08:24] <bazZ666> hab jetzt das image ubuntu 10.10 ne virtual box
[08:25] <bazZ666> das ist der us chan hier oder?
[08:25] <critical_max> ac7ss, open with Image Viewer, right click, Set as Desktop Background not working?
[08:25] <bullgard4> bazZ666: Ja.
[08:25] <ac7ss> Sorry that should say that gconftool points at the one I want, but not the one on the screen.
[08:25] <bazZ666> hm
[08:25] <bazZ666> schlecht
[08:26] <Karen_m> Jordan_U, <tab>, added toram on the line, now it's installing to the usb.. very nice! thank you
[08:26] <bazZ666> im de chan antwortet keiner
[08:26] <Murphant> critical_max, I disabled the Nvidia driver, how do I get Ubuntu to use the "restricted hardware driver"?
[08:26] <critical_max> Murphant, normally it pops up when you log in if you aren't running the nvidia binary driver it will suggest it. Try relogging
[08:27] <ac7ss> critical_max: I have tried setting it from every tool I use and I cannot change it. (maybe changed from Googlechrome or firefox, havn't tried that.)
[08:27] <bullgard4> bazZ666: Weil es dort ein ppar halbstarke gibt, die die meisten gutwilligen Benutzer vergraulen.
[08:27] <Murphant> alright, thanks, brb
[08:27] <critical_max> murphant, Takes a few seconds for the process to get its act together, give it a bit after login
[08:27] <bazZ666> das ist mal interessant bullgard4
[08:27] <StepNjump> !ntfs
[08:27] <critical_max> ac7ss: yikes. never gotten myself into that.
[08:27] <bazZ666> ist ein angespanntes klima im de chan hab ich gemerkt
[08:27] <ac7ss> critical_max: where else would the manager be getting it from?
[08:28] <StepNjump> !NTFS-3g
[08:28] <critical_max> ac7ss: Never had to solve that problem myself.  I suppose depending on how many hacky applets you've been playing with, a running process could be handling it
[08:28] <critical_max> and overriding
[08:28] <StepNjump> !FUSE
[08:29] <StepNjump> !help
[08:29] <critical_max> ac7ss: Last time I played with anything like that was xscreensaver -root :)
[08:29] <critical_max> animated desktop!
[08:29] <StepNjump> !menu
[08:30] <ac7ss> critical_max: I am gonna make a cron dependant wallpaper. I guess I will just use the filename already set.
[08:30] <critical_max> ac7ss: look for an app that does that, I bet that's been done
[08:30] <ac7ss> critical_max: I run the swarm screensaver as background sometimes. :)
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Ha andChat can block the motd
[08:31] <ac7ss> critical_max: very simple script. many online.
[08:31] <critical_max> cool
[08:31] <critical_max> i'm one of those who thinks a desktop is for hiding with active windows, i tend to ignore it
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: i've seen one or two as well
[08:32] <ac7ss> actionparsnip: I just can't get the background to match what is in gconf.
[08:33] <Murphant> critical_max: alright, I asked it to take the default config, and now I have no hardware drivers that are offered
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: there is a gconf command to set wallpaper at cli
[08:34] <Murphant> critical_max: btw I can't even get it into widescreen now, I definitely need another driver than whatever I am using now
[08:34] <ac7ss> actionparsnip: it reads the one that I want, but not the one that is really there.
[08:34] <critical_max> murphant, actually, that's good
[08:34] <critical_max> Murphant, try manually starting the restricted driver manager
[08:35] <critical_max> Murphant, System > Administration >  Hardware Drivers
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: http://joeamined.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/automatically-changing-wallpaper-relatively-to-daytime-in-ubuntu/
[08:36] <critical_max> I'm running ATI so for me it offers ATI Fire GL, last time I was on Nvidia it offered me a choice of 2 official Nvidia binaries, one old, one fairly bleeding edge
[08:36] <ac7ss> actionparsnip: I am looking at that one, my problem is more fundamental. I cannot change the wallpaper using gconftool.
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: in gconf-editior does the key exist?
[08:38] <Murphant> critical_max: No restricted drivers are recommended at the moment, I will try rebooting and see
[08:38] <critical_max> Murphant: That sounds good.
[08:40] <Softdroid> When I check my primary diskparition in Admin -> Disk tools it says: "The disk contains a few broken sectors". How can I fix it?
[08:40] <azizLIGHTS> !ar
[08:40] <ac7ss> actionparsnip: the key exists, points to the image I want, but thats not the one on the screen.
[08:40] <azizLIGHTS> !ae
[08:41] <azizLIGHTS> !sa
[08:41] <Softdroid> !se
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: interesting. I'll have a play later i gotta sleep
[08:42] <Murphant> critical_max: nop, still no suggestions in Hardware Drivers
[08:42] <critical_max> Murphant, what nvidia card is it
[08:42] <Syria> Hi, i can't make any changes in phpmyadmin, the page keeps loading after clicking on go. please help
[08:43] <azizLIGHTS> !qa
[08:43] <Murphant> GTX460
[08:43] <azizLIGHTS> lolz
[08:43] <bazhang> azizLIGHTS, /msg ubottu
[08:43] <azizLIGHTS> oh sorry
[08:43] <azizLIGHTS> ty
[08:43] <hosein> Is ubuntu software center downloads resumable?
[08:43] <Murphant> critical_max: GTX460
[08:43] <Syria> hosein:  Yes.
[08:44] <[Lemmy]> i could use soe help installing ubuntu netbook remix on an asus eeepc 701 (4G)
[08:44] <Murphant> critical_max: I used to have the driver I got on the nvidia website for it
[08:44] <critical_max> Murphant, a thread from july 2010 says it's not supported in linux. i'm wondering if it still only has partial support (read: not usable)
[08:44] <azizLIGHTS> what should i use to go back to how my ubuntu was , 2 months ago,?
[08:44] <[Lemmy]> i made a bootable usb stick from the iso image, netbook boots fine, ubuntu starts, and after the second dialog in the installer nothing happens
[08:44] <Murphant> critical_max: huh, I thought they would have fixed it by now, I'l look into it, thx
[08:44] <ac7ss> azizLIGHTS: restore from a backup?
[08:45] <critical_max> mURPHANT: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9678269&postcount=14
[08:45] <azizLIGHTS> ok yes? which one how? ac7ss
[08:45] <critical_max> Murphant: looks like you just have to get a newer driver than is packaged with your ubuntu release by default
[08:45] <Syria> Guys can you help me with phpmyadmin please! I can't make any changes
[08:45] <critical_max> murphant: thread linked has details
[08:45] <ac7ss> azizLIGHTS: did you back up 2 months ago?
[08:45] <Guest53140> sorry
[08:46] <Guest53140> can i have it back..
[08:46] <Guest53140> new to xchat
[08:46] <hosein> syria: oh no! I just clicked on the red button of its progress bar, and it has removed from list! where can I resume it?
[08:46] <azizLIGHTS> ac7ss: no, i want to do backups starting now, and ooking for utility suggestion
[08:46] <Syria> hosein:  Just try installing it once again.
[08:46] <azizLIGHTS> ac7ss: do i need fol backup of hdd or just save some files and have rolack ability
[08:46] <azizLIGHTS> *rollback
[08:47] <ac7ss> azizLIGHTS: I use backup2l, completely automated to a second drive.
[08:47] <azizLIGHTS> does any backup utliity integrates into the gui and lets you see "previous version" of files
[08:47] <critical_max> syria, often your Apache logs have the answer for that kind of problem. access.log and error.log both.
[08:47] <hosein> syria: it will continue?
[08:47] <ac7ss> azizLIGHTS: backup2l is good for regular incremental backups.
[08:47] <Murphant> critical_max: ty, I will download a driver that apparently works well
[08:47] <Syria> hosein:  Yeah.
[08:47] <azizLIGHTS> ok im cehcking it ac7ss
[08:47]  * ac7ss doesn't depend on GUI for much. sorry.
[08:47] <critical_max> Murphant, good luck, you ahead-of-thehardware-curve guy!
[08:48] <Syria> critical_max:  Where are those files located?
[08:48] <critical_max> Syria, /var/log/apache2 on ubuntu
[08:48] <hosein> ok. nice! thanks to linux and you
[08:48] <ecolitan> hello!
[08:48] <Syria> critical_max:  Thnx, I will see whats going on there.
[08:48] <critical_max> Syria, "sudo tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log" then reproduce the problem and watch the log in realtime :)
[08:49] <ecolitan> does anyone know if firefox 4 will be available in 11.4 ?
[08:49] <critical_max> !ff4 | ecolitan
[08:49] <critical_max> oops, i guess that doesn't cover the question
[08:49] <bazhang> ecolitan, yes it will, #ubuntu+1 for more
[08:49] <critical_max> someone knows :)
[08:50] <stimpie> Anyone knows how to route all ssh traffic via a remote ssh server?
[08:50] <ecolitan> i was meaning if it will come in the standard repository
[08:50] <critical_max> stimpie: the keyword you are looking for is "ssh tunnelling"
[08:50] <Murphant> critical_max: well I mostly use the power of the card on windows, and it's not exactly bleeding edge anymore, it's almost a year old
[08:50] <ac7ss> azizLIGHTS: there is no "restore point" program for ubuntu that I know of (as a simple setup.) Likely it could be done with a script.
[08:50] <bullgard4> What is the opposite to "established connection"? '~$ sudo netstat -tap' outputs: "Active Internet connections (servers and established)'."
[08:50] <bazhang> ecolitan, it will be default installed. #ubuntu+1 is the natty support channel
[08:51] <azizLIGHTS> ac7ss: its enogh to tarball /home ?
[08:51] <azizLIGHTS> periodically with cron
[08:51] <ac7ss> bullgard4: "Not connected"?
[08:51] <bullgard4> ac7ss: How does netstat lis not connected connections=
[08:52] <bullgard4> s/lis/list/
[08:52] <mickster04> hey guys, can anyone tell me how to find out if i can install ubuntu happily onto a hp mini 5103?
[08:52] <ac7ss> azizLIGHTS: you will want to use incremental backups. (that is what backu2l is really good at.) otherwise you get large echos of what you now have.
[08:52] <azizLIGHTS> i see yes you are right
[08:52] <critical_max> Murphant, the important thing is to get the system to the "known good", albeit non-accelerated state, then you can easily follow any directions to install the proper driver once identified. All those third party nvidia command line apps are relics nowadays. At most the package installation should handle all the running of that config
[08:53] <critical_max> You're there, so you should be good to go once you identify the driver
[08:53] <critical_max> Murphant, also check into "envy" perhaps
[08:53] <bazhang> critical_max, envy has not been around for a long time now
[08:54] <critical_max> oh? shows how long since I had these problems ><
[08:54] <ac7ss> bullgard4: I do not believe it does. you could use the logs to check for prior connections.
[08:54] <critical_max> Do not check into envy in that case :)
[08:54] <Syria> critical_max:  Is this normal? http://paste.ubuntu.com/584185/
[08:55] <critical_max> Syria, nothing scary in there, you might have to dig in the access log to figure out what's going on
[08:55] <critical_max> access.log in the same directory
[08:56] <critical_max> again, running tail -f on the access log while reproducing the problem is usually best
[08:56] <Murphant> critical_max: I'm afraid that Envy is not supported for 10.4
[08:56] <critical_max> Syria, I also see an "other_vhosts_access.log" which your webserver might be writing too, I'm not sure of your config
[08:57] <critical_max> Murphant, Yeah, I'm blushing, someone told me it was outdated right after I mentioned it
[08:57] <The_Rufus> I'm installing Ubuntu Server and I have 5 2tb drives in software RAID5, but how do I mount them as /?
[08:57] <critical_max> Syria, check both of those if they exist, tail -f while reproducing the problem to make the correlation if possible
[08:57] <Guest53140> any web guru's familliar with epiphany?
[08:57] <The_Rufus> if I change the type from  "physical volume for RAID", it will break the raid right?
[08:57] <critical_max> Guest53140, isn't that the old Gnome browser?
[08:58] <Guest53140> ya
[08:58] <Murphant> critical_max: oh, yeah, just saw it
[08:58] <Guest53140> well, maybe
[08:58] <ecolitan> The_Rufus: raid with mdadm?
[08:58] <Guest53140> but still an issue
[08:58] <Syria> critical_max:  is this one helpful http://paste.ubuntu.com/584186/ ? this the access.log
[08:58] <The_Rufus> whatever the installer uses
[08:58] <Guest53140> i can't seem to force a cache disable
[08:59] <Guest53140> nor clear forms
[08:59] <critical_max> Syria, I can't troubleshoot your php app for you, but I bet the info you need might be in that access log, since it's showing your pages loading. Good luck.
[08:59] <Syria> critical_max:  Thank you. :)
[08:59] <Guest53140> code works on IE and FF, still checking others
[08:59] <critical_max> you're welcome
[09:00] <bpr> i just installed an 11.04 build and "alt-f" doesn't skip forward one word.  Does anyone have any ideas why this would be?
[09:00] <Syria> critical_max:  Just one more question please. removing phpmyadmin and re-installing it can solve the problem?
[09:00] <bazhang> bpr #ubuntu+1 for natty
[09:00] <bpr> ah ok
[09:00] <ragix> Hi guys, my rtl8192se seems to be giving me kernel panics
[09:00] <bpr> sry bazhang
[09:00] <The_Rufus> damnit, i've been trying to get this server working since November last year
[09:01] <The_Rufus> nobody knows how to get RAID working
[09:01] <critical_max> Syria: try it and find out, I guess. One more tip: don't be root in the terminal. Use sudo for things that require root privileges in the terminal.
[09:01] <ragix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/584187/
[09:01] <critical_max> !sudo | syria
[09:01] <bars0> Hi all, I need to install latex but I do not want to install documentation. What is the option in aptitude?
[09:03] <The_Rufus> anybody?
[09:03] <The_Rufus> or should I just hang myself
[09:03] <[Lemmy]> nah, hang the server instead
[09:03] <bpr> xb
[09:03] <ac7ss> The_Rufus: I would suggests a small boot drive and then mount the raid.
[09:03] <The_Rufus> i have a 4gb flash drive mounted as /boot
[09:04] <critical_max> The_Rufus, i find it  hard to believe that there are no walkthroughs for RAID5 installation via the Ubuntu installer. Is that really true?
[09:04] <Murphant> critical_max: I seem to only be able to install the nvidia driver out of X but the terminals that appear when I press ctrl-alt-f2 and the like are all blurred and unreadable
[09:04] <Murphant> critical_max: should I try to login blindly and do the operations?
[09:04] <The_Rufus> i want the 10Tb RAID5 as /
[09:04] <The_Rufus> I've searched google for every howto, and nothing works
[09:04] <critical_max> Murphant: my gut reaction is no, that way leads to trouble more often than not. A good solution will be cleaner
[09:04] <The_Rufus> believe me, I wouldn't be here if I could find the answer
[09:05] <mickster04>  alternatively, can anyone point me to where it might state if the gma3105 chip is supported?
[09:05] <[Lemmy]> i could use some help here... installing ubuntu netbook remix on an asus eeepc 701 (4G)
[09:05] <critical_max> Murphant, you're saying you have problems displaying alt-F2, etc terminals with the default non-accelerated driver?
[09:05] <[Lemmy]> i made a bootable usb stick from the iso image, netbook boots fine, ubuntu starts, and after the second dialog in the installer, the one where you pick to download upgrades during install, nothing happens at all.
[09:05] <critical_max> The_Rufus, I see. :(
[09:05] <Murphant> critical_max: yep, have had them since I installed
[09:06] <Murphant> critical_max: what's weird is that I have the same problem on my laptop, which has an ATI card
[09:06] <Murphant> critical_max: thought that maybe installing the driver would fix that
[09:06] <critical_max> Murphant: Might try dist-upgrading to 11.04
[09:07] <critical_max> Murphant: based on what I read on the ubuntu forums, that card just wasn't supported at all until quite recently
[09:07] <leagris> hello, I have a snd-pcm symbol unknown and no sound since kernel upgrade to 2.6.35-28-generic, is there a fix/patch or way to revert to latest working kernel?
[09:07] <critical_max> Murphant, driver support often lags about a year when the card vendors have an architecture change
[09:08] <critical_max> murphant, which is what we're seeing, basically
[09:08] <hosein> how can run a menu item as root with sudo? what must change in its command?
[09:08] <Murphant> critical_max: yeah, I can see that
[09:08] <scarleo> leagris: you can boot earlier kernels at grub if you haven't removed them
[09:08] <xardas008> hosein, try starting it from console
[09:09] <critical_max> murphant, I know it's not what you want to hear but i've lost weeks of my life trying to get badly supported video cards working well, and it really isn't worth it if you can a) dist-upgrade to a release that supports it b) use an operating system that supports it (windows)
[09:09] <hosein> xardas008: no I want to run it from menu. Is it possible?
[09:10] <xardas008> not with sudo rights i think
[09:10] <critical_max> Murphant: 11.10 alpha is available for testing June 2
[09:11] <Murphant> critical_max: alpha might be a bit intense for my inexperience with linux, but I will probably try 10.04
[09:11] <critical_max> if you can wait that long, i'd highly advise working on upgrading to that rather than pooching your current install repeatedly
[09:11] <critical_max> yes, try 11.04 in the interim
[09:12] <StepNjump> Guys, I'm trying to download timevault backup app but when I try to execute the .deb package, I get the following error message: Dependency is not satisfiable: python2.5-dev
[09:12] <wizardken> is the root directory suppose to be bootable?
[09:12] <Murphant> critical_max: for now I'm just gonna install old versions with synaptics and hope for the best
[09:12] <critical_max> murphant, you should be able to upgrade to 11.04 right now
[09:12] <critical_max> one sec, i'll find the directions
[09:12] <StepNjump> !timevault
[09:13] <The_Rufus> I'm following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=Convert+to+software+raid&titlesearch=Titles
[09:13] <Murphant> critical_max: lemme reboot, brb
[09:13] <The_Rufus> does that mean I need to create 5 "/" mount points?
[09:13] <The_Rufus> one on each drive?
[09:13] <Guest53140> looking for a bored web guru.... any takers?
[09:14] <The_Rufus> I'm specifically referring to step 6
[09:14] <leagris> scarleo, currently reinstall linux-image-2.6.35-27 because I had flushed old kernels. Too bad I revert to unpatched security issues because of the snd-pcm havoc in newer kernel
[09:14] <critical_max> StepNjump, i bet there is a PPA for timevault, check the urls the bot sent, it's not packaged in main ubuntu
[09:14] <The_Rufus> anybody?
[09:14] <mickster04> can anyone point me to where it might state if the gma3105 chip is supported?
[09:14] <The_Rufus> please?
[09:14] <The_Rufus> I'm dying here
[09:15] <oCean> The_Rufus: I think you assume correctly. It states to repeat the steps 2-5 for the other disk
[09:15] <StepNjump> Hi critical_max again... I'm new to all this. Does it mean I need to add a new repository ?
[09:16] <maxillusionist> The_Rufus what it is actually
[09:16] <critical_max> StepNjump, yes, but the help page should spell out exactly what to do
[09:16] <maxillusionist> i was off for sometime
[09:17] <The_Rufus> ok, so I have 5 "/"'s across 5 2Tb HDD's
[09:17] <The_Rufus> is that right?
[09:17] <The_Rufus> now according to the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=Convert+to+software+raid&titlesearch=Titles (howto), I should go to "Configure Software RAID" right?
[09:17] <oCean> The_Rufus: I *think* so, according to that guide.
[09:17] <StepNjump> critical_max ok let me check
[09:17] <ssn> hi guys
[09:18] <oCean> The_Rufus: also, in #ubuntu-server there might be more help available on such (server) topics
[09:18] <ssn> how can i install the software (default ubuntu gnome desktop has it) that allows me to configure multiple monitors?
[09:18] <ssn> i mean, how is it called
[09:19] <oCean> !xinerama | ssn
[09:19] <ssn> ubottu: i know xinerama, i just need the "gnome frontend" to configure it
[09:20] <Andy-at-home> how can I search all the files in the current directory for 'open_basedir'?
[09:20] <critical_max> ssn: gnome-display-properties is what the process calls itself
[09:20] <critical_max> hth
[09:20] <ac7ss> andy-at-home: 'grep open_basedir *'
[09:20] <ssn> critical_max: thx!
[09:21] <leagris> rebooting to older kernel, will see
[09:21] <critical_max> Murphant, use alt-F2 to bring up the gnome app launcher, then start "update-manager -d"   the -d switch will offer distribution upgrades
[09:21] <Murphant> critical_max: well that seemed to work on getting me back to how I was before
[09:22] <Andy-at-home> grep open_basedir *
[09:22] <Andy-at-home> on its own
[09:22] <critical_max> Murphant, you're on 10.04 right now?
[09:22] <Andy-at-home> damn
[09:22] <Murphant> critical_max: and as a minor improvement, I now boot at a 1024x768 resolution compared to my old 600x400 resolution, so it is less painfull on the eyes
[09:23] <Murphant> critical_max: yes I am
[09:23] <hosein> If I remove an installed package from ubuntu software center, should I download it again? can I keep its deb for later use?
[09:23] <Murphant> critical_max: my xconf still won't save properly though, I guess I will live with it until I upgrade to 11.04
[09:23] <ahox> Hi, my dkms_autobuild fails with a make.log error of /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox-ose/3.2.8/build/include/iprt/types.h:97: fatal error: linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory. How do I install this file?
[09:23] <xardas008> hosein, i think that he will keep the dep in some temp folder
[09:24] <critical_max> Murphant: see above for directions for upgrading to 10.10, and subsequently for 11.04 if the problem isn't fixed
[09:24] <xardas008> sudo apt-get install autoconf
[09:24] <critical_max> murphant, you'll want to have that ready for the 11.04 release anyway, since you can't skip releases when upgrading
[09:24] <ahox> I am running maverick, but with a 2.6.38 kernel from the ppa
[09:24] <mickster04> can anyone point me to where it might state if the gma3105 chip is supported?
[09:25] <critical_max> murphant, and since your goal is to get this newfangled hardware running smoothly :)
[09:25] <uczen> halo
[09:25] <xardas008> ahox, that could be the problem. I tried the same with another kernel then the one previously installed. It has something to do with dkms
[09:25] <bluum> hosein: find /var -name \*.deb
[09:26] <critical_max> hosein, all your debs are cached in /var/cache/apt/archives if you are curious to see what's there
[09:27] <bullgard4> Why does '~$ sudo netstat -tunap' output the name of the process #985 as "0", while '~ps aux' outputs "dictd" for it?
[09:27] <ahox> I assume that the autoconf.h is part of the linux kernel. It actually exist in the header package, in he directory /usr/src/linux-headers-<version>/include/generated
[09:27] <ac7ss> andy-at-home: was that what you needed?
[09:28] <critical_max> hosein, so if the deb is still there, and still current, the next time you install the package Ubuntu will not get it from the net, but from the cache locally
[09:28] <bluum> hosein: do this experiment. install some package, uninstall it, pull the network plug, try to install again
[09:29] <critical_max> bluum, i guarantee following that sequence will take it from the cache for the 2nd install
[09:29] <Andy-at-home> who knows lol
[09:29] <Andy-at-home> php is loading a open_ basedir value from somewhere and I'm trying figure out where
[09:29] <critical_max> bluum, if update-manager doesn't choke at not being able to check for current listings hehehe
[09:30] <critical_max> bullgard4, pastebin would help a lot
[09:30] <iceroot> Andy-at-home: normally /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[09:31] <uczen> siema
[09:31] <uczen> ;o
[09:31] <ylmf> bh
[09:32] <Andy-at-home> sorry, I'm getting lost in my channels
[09:32] <Andy-at-home> wait for it
[09:32] <Andy-at-home> I'm on CentOS
[09:32] <hosein> bluum,: I tested it. It installed locally from cache. but the configuration wizard I saw at the first installation, did not appear. why?
[09:32] <critical_max> hosein, that's because you still had the config from last time (probably in ~/.someapp-config
[09:33] <bullgard4> critical_max: '~$ sudo netstat -tunap' output the name of the process #985 as "0", while '~ps aux' outputs "dictd" for it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/584198/
[09:34] <bluum> hosein: you might have the option to either "uninstall" or to "prune" a package. pruning deletes the configuration.
[09:34] <hosein> critical_max: It is  zend server wrapper for phpMyAdmin, I dont know where it is installed?
[09:35] <critical_max> hosein: neither do I, sorry.
[09:35] <critical_max> bullgard4, and the ps output?
[09:35] <critical_max> I mean the netstat output
[09:37] <critical_max> hosein: you can use "apt-get purge somepackage" instead of apt-get remove , to remove config
[09:37] <critical_max> hosein: that should offer the config wizard next time you install it.
[09:38] <puck1> Sorry I had to teach a class.  critical_max, I have looked at the error log but don't really know what to look for.  Any clues?
[09:39] <Murphant> critical_max: thanks for the tip (and your help in general), but I'm working on a project, I'l upgrade when I'm done
[09:39] <critical_max> puck1, what were we looking at again?
[09:39] <hosein> critical_max: without removing its .deb from chache?
[09:39] <critical_max> Murphant, yeah it's something to leave overnight :)
[09:39] <critical_max> hosein: correct
[09:40] <critical_max> hosein: you never have to touch that cache. you can clear it if you want to save drive space for some reason. apt-get clean, apt-get autoclean  are different ways to clean it, look at the docs for details.
[09:40] <puck1> We have ubuntu 10.04 and are having a problem with a Xerox Phaser 6280DN printer connected via port 9100.  Everything seems to print fine except large pdfs we keep getting messages like /usr/lib/cups/filter/cpdftocps failed"
[09:41] <critical_max> puck1, Oh. I don't know what to look for either, but anything you DO find should be googled :) and that's probably where the relevant errors would be - in the cups error log
[09:41] <bullgard4> critical_max: This was the output of '~$ ps aux | grep 985'. --
[09:41] <critical_max> puck1, I think I've had to go to that log exactly once in my life and it did give some kind of helpful clue. Good luck!
[09:41] <bullgard4> critical_max: '~$ sudo netstat -tunap' output the name of the process #985 as "0", while '~ps aux' outputs "dictd" for it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/584200/
[09:41] <ac7ss> night all.
[09:42] <critical_max> bullgard4, I see what you mean now. And that is very strange, And I don't have an answer sorry :(
[09:42] <bullgard4> critical_max: Thank you.
[09:43] <critical_max> puck1, that log again was /var/log/cups/error_log (possibly access_log as well)
[09:43]  * critical_max teatime
[09:45] <unma> quit
[09:47] <ahox> xardas008: I found two solutions, #1 is to upgrade to virtualbox 4.0.4 using a ppa, the second one is to fix the includes, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/virtualbox/+bug/705593 . (maybe use find/sed combo)
[09:48] <NCS_One> hi
[09:49] <desturrr> hi, i was trying to install listen music player via ubuntu software center, but it is stuck on the stage saying applying changes for quite a time now
[09:49] <desturrr> do you know how to cancel it ?
[09:49] <Bipul`> i can not able to  update my ubuntu 10.10  from update manager
[09:51] <jonathandade> desturr: Can you check the process list and see if the process has crashed and how long is quite a long time?
[09:51] <DrThorax> join #inf
[09:51] <desturrr> it is about 10 minutes
[09:51] <desturrr> when i do ps
[09:51] <desturrr> it is just 2 thing showing
[09:51] <desturrr> how to see all processes
[09:51] <jonathandade> Bipul: You'll probably find a tutorial or two on google for that. What is the current version you are running?
[09:52] <NCS_One> desturrr: ps aux
[09:52] <NCS_One> where do I "set -o vi" and how to make it go to normal mode after <ENTER>?
[09:52] <jonathandade> desturr: in a shell do a ps aux to see all processes from all users
[09:52] <desturrr> yes i did that
[09:52] <desturrr> should i grep it as well
[09:52] <NCS_One> better
[09:53] <desturrr> there is update-notifier  only shown
[09:53] <jonathandade> have a look at the list for dpkg or apt and see what the process states are? Then you could check top to see if it is just running.
[09:54] <desturrr> desturrr@desturrr-PC:~$ ps aux | grep dpkg
[09:54] <desturrr> root      4655  0.0  1.8  82836 72240 pts/1    Ds+  11:30   0:00 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 17 --unpack --auto-deconfigure /var/cache/apt/archives/gstreamer0.10-esd_0.10.25-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libtunepimp5_0.5.3-7.3ubuntu2_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/python-mutagen_1.19-2_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/listen_0.6.5-5_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/python-daap_0.7.1-3_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/python-gpod_0.7.95-1_a
[09:54] <desturrr> md64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/python-musicbrainz2_0.7.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/python-tunepimp_0.5.3-7.3ubuntu2_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/python-xlib_0.14+20091101-1_all.deb
[09:54] <FloodBot1> desturrr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:55] <StepNjump> critical_max timevault is looking for me to install python 2.5 but the current version is 2.6, what should I do?
[09:55] <critical_max> stepnjump, building from source if there's no more up-to-date package available.
[09:55] <critical_max> stepnjump, or find an app that's not been abandoned
[09:56] <desturrr> basically is there a way to stop the ubuntu software center
[09:56] <critical_max> stepnjump, i recommend option #2
[09:56] <StepNjump> critical_max ok thanks
[09:56]  * charlos brb Im go to a bath one moment... ;)
[09:56] <StepNjump> Yes for sure.. I'm not that advanced
[09:56] <jonathandade> desturr: You can kill the process for it, but interrupting it that way may cause other issues.
[09:57] <desturrr> i did xkill it
[09:57] <desturrr> but  when i open , the installing is still stuck
[09:57] <critical_max> StepNjump, also tried googling "timevault 10.04" or whatever your release is? might be an easy workaround that someone has documented
[09:57] <mik> hi ppl
[09:57] <mik> code break in 10 channel
[09:58] <StepNjump> Can't find anything
[09:58] <critical_max> StepNjump, roger that, i'd just find a different tool if i were you
[09:58] <mik> find in line 332 at 6
[09:58] <mik> install webkit in 10.10
[09:58] <jonathandade> desturr: I am wary of telling you to force kill it and it's children in case it leaves your system in a broken state.
[09:58] <StepNjump> What would you suggest as far as automated backup system for ubuntu 10.10 critical_max?
[09:58] <desturrr> force kill ?
[09:59] <desturrr> ok lets do that :D
[09:59] <critical_max> StepNjump, I use the "prayer" system, your mileage may vary :O
[09:59] <critical_max> Seriously though,  I'm not up to date on that.
[10:00] <critical_max> Others will have better suggestions.
[10:00] <StepNjump> sudo apt-get install prayer?
[10:00] <critical_max> No, it was a joke. :D
[10:01] <StepNjump> oh yeah
[10:01] <StepNjump> tnx
[10:02] <[Lemmy]> grmbl
[10:02] <jonathandade> Not a great idea. The state it was in was uninterruptible sleep (usually IO). That means it might be waiting on disk or memory, but if oyu understnad that this may leave your system irretrievably broken then the command in a shell would be kill -9 <PID of dpkg and any other processes you need to kill>. That will forceably remove it from memory if that can be done. You'll need to sudo it, but be warned this may well kill your w
[10:02] <jonathandade> I'd use top first to see what its doing?
[10:02] <critical_max> StepNjump, maybe "Back in Time" http://www.installing-linux.com/TB/?P=803 supposed to be a time machine inspired app
[10:02] <critical_max> but reported working in 10.10/10.04
[10:03] <jonathandade> desturr: force kill should be a last resort always.
[10:03] <critical_max> I got curious myself and had a look :)
[10:03] <StepNjump> Inspired by the movie critical_max... good idea. Thank you very much
[10:03] <StepNjump> let me check it
[10:03] <mintux>  I have problem with write cd/dvd in linux. it said some files has bad name. so how can I find the file's because it's a lot files . are there any software write cd or dvd and ignore each file has bad name. I destroyed many cd or dvd for this problem
[10:03] <critical_max> I know Timevault was hyped to death a couple years ago so I'm surprised to see it languishing.
[10:03] <k3kc0rp> sudo apt-get install windoze ?
[10:03] <k3kc0rp> XD
[10:03] <critical_max> Oh is there a movie?
[10:04] <StepNjump> critical_max, wasn't that a movie with Christopher Reeve?
[10:04] <critical_max> I've used the nick for over a decade. I dunno.
[10:04] <critical_max> !ot | critical_max
[10:05] <critical_max> mintux: Give us an example of a bad filename that you are talking about.
[10:05] <mintux> critical_max: it's log of barseo http://paste.ideaslabs.com/show/1EE5vukJLE
[10:06] <mintux> if I know which file has problem I renamed it
[10:06] <mintux> Session error : Some files have invalid filenames (brasero_burn_record brasero-burn.c:2839)
[10:06] <serrghi> anyone here use openvpn+networkmanager for Giganews openvpn?
[10:07] <critical_max> Mintux: Maybe there is a script to rename all the mp3s to linux friendly characters. I can't see from that huge log which the problem file is.
[10:08] <mintux>  critical_max: my problem is exactly this . I can not rename all file's or how can I sure the problem solved. the software must rename it or say it
[10:08] <critical_max> mintux: yeah, I get that. have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/529696/+index?comments=all?
[10:09] <critical_max> mintux: Huge problem bug, apparently
[10:10] <critical_max> mintux: it's reported fixed in 10.04 and 10.10. What release are you running and is it updated? What version of Brasero?
[10:11] <StepNjump> critical_max, yes it's working! Thank you !
[10:11] <critical_max> mintux: the fix is less than one month old so you might not have the update yet?
[10:11] <critical_max> StepNjump, Excellent! Glad to help.
[10:12] <StepNjump> critical_max, you should be here more often!
[10:12] <critical_max> StepNjump, If only this was a job.
[10:12] <StepNjump> ;)
[10:13] <StepNjump> Would be nice to wake up to go to work eh?
[10:13] <critical_max> Depending on the work, yeah. This is rather more rewarding than most real telecommuting jobs.
[10:15] <m_> how to enable sd card reader ?
[10:15] <m_> join #ubuntu
[10:15] <NCS_One> where do I "set -o vi" and how to make it go to normal mode after <ENTER>?
[10:17] <monish001> hello everyone!!
[10:18] <wild> In the terminal I want to configure Apache defaults. How do I save my configuration changes?
[10:18] <xardas008> wild, which editor do you use?
[10:19] <ikonia> wild: just exit the text editor your using to change them
[10:19] <m_> hi! my sd card reader doesn't work. when typing lspci i don't know which one is this. does any one know how to enable it?
[10:19] <wild> xardas008 ikonia I am using the terminal window and a sudo command
[10:19] <critical_max> m_ is it usb? lsusb
[10:19] <xardas008> wild, vi?
[10:20] <critical_max> m_ it should probably only show up when you have a card in it, too
[10:20] <wild> xardas008 yes
[10:20] <xardas008> ok with esc to the command prompt and then wq!
[10:20] <critical_max> wild, sudo vi  if you want to save to default apache config locations
[10:20] <twitch> wild: sudo nano -w /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[10:21] <critical_max> twitch: mmm nano, a crutch that i personally never want to put down. the aforementioned :wq! and movement are all i've learned in vi... for shame.
[10:21] <m_> critical_max: after lspci there's more there. would you know how to install it?
[10:22] <critical_max> nano actually has a lot of undocumented shortcuts too
[10:22] <critical_max> m_, all i've ever had to do is plug it in and it just works
[10:22] <critical_max> m_, what model is the card?
[10:22] <twitch> critical_max: yeah i know but nano is easier for beginners
[10:22] <critical_max> twitch: it sure is
[10:22] <m_> critical_max: lucky you. SDHC
[10:22] <codemagician> how to I switch my flash plugin with firefox?
[10:22] <critical_max> m_ full model name if you can?
[10:23] <wild> xardas008 if I click Esc, nothing happens. should something?
[10:23] <xardas008> codemagician, which one do you have and which one do you want to have?
[10:23] <k3kc0rp> sudo kill adobe
[10:23] <critical_max> m_ that's the memory card type right? we need the model of the card reader
[10:23] <xardas008> wild, on the bottom there should appear a : (if not already there)
[10:23] <critical_max> !flash | codemagician
[10:23] <codemagician> xardas008, currently I'm not sure. but its not working with speedtest.net
[10:24] <xardas008> codemagician, does it work on youtube?
[10:24] <codemagician> xardas008, yes
[10:24] <critical_max> codemagician: ok, click the adobe "install this" that shows up in the gaping hole if you see that
[10:24] <critical_max> codemagician, don't follow the browser helper prompts, rather use the adobe ones
[10:25] <m_> critical_max: yes that was card model. reader i don't know. as looking up on hp.com  there are 3 drivers Intel Matrix Storage Technology Driver and  Realtek Card Reader Driver
[10:25] <codemagician> critical_max, there is no missing plugin. it currently uses an open source one. i want to switch between them to compare
[10:25] <wild> xardas008, the 'insert' vanishes after Esc but no a appears
[10:25] <critical_max> ok, go to http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer
[10:25] <xardas008> ok then try to insert a wq! when the insert vanished
[10:25] <pauru> Hello all! i've just downloades firefox 4 rc and i want to install it, how do i do that? its a tar.bz2 file
[10:25]  * xardas008 away for a short time
[10:25] <critical_max> codemagician: the offered package will work great, i am using it with ff4/10.04 release atm
[10:25] <m_> critical_max: would you know how to check card reader model?
[10:26] <critical_max> m_ so it is built in with your PC?
[10:26] <m_> critical_max: yes
[10:26] <codemagician> critical_max, before the adobe flash player kept crashing my browser
[10:26] <critical_max> !ff4 | pauru
[10:26] <critical_max> pauru: don't use the tarball, follow the ubottu directions
[10:27] <pauru> critical_max, thanks, but why not?
[10:27] <critical_max> m_, pastebin the output of "sudo lspci -vv" and "sudo lsusb -vv" for us please
[10:27] <critical_max> pauru, because the OS will manage it for you and it's the same version right now as what's in the tarball
[10:28] <critical_max> m_, that will let us spot it if it's there
[10:28] <joris> Hi. How do I make sure I don't lose access to my server when I reinstall openssh ?
[10:28] <ikonia> joris: you dont
[10:28] <pauru> critical_max, Oh, thanks ;)
[10:28] <joris> ikonia: howcome?
[10:28] <m_> critical_max: you want me to paste it in here?
[10:28] <ikonia> joris: you're re-installing it, it will need to remove the package and replace it, however the daemon you are using should stay running in memory
[10:29] <codemagician> critical_max, well i download adobe plugin using the ubuntu package manager
[10:29] <ikonia> joris: it's a risk you'll have to accept
[10:29] <codemagician> critical_max, but i still don't know how to switch between my existing one and this
[10:29] <joris> ikonia: so the daemon is personal?
[10:29] <wild> xardas008, if I type "w" I heard a the snare sound but see nothing, then the q and "recording" appears q again and it goes away
[10:29] <critical_max> codemagician, should be in Tools > Addons > Plugins in FF
[10:29] <ikonia> joris: no
[10:30] <critical_max> codemagician as I recall they will sit side by side in FF and only one will be active, you pick
[10:30] <bullgard4> What package is the Disk Mounter applet associated with (in order to report a bug)?
[10:30] <v_v> wild: input :wq
[10:30] <v_v> wild: including the :
[10:30] <v_v> wild: or you just shit+zz
[10:30] <wild> :wq
[10:30] <v_v> wild: two Z
[10:30] <critical_max> joris, if you want more confidence in the remote update, there are few ways short of just having performed it on a staging machine of some sort (a VM sandbox configured like your remote server perhaps)
[10:31] <codemagician> critical_max, aha. i found that but the adobe one isn't in the list
[10:31] <critical_max> joris, perhaps something like Webmin
[10:31] <m_> critical_max: you want me to paste it in here? that's like 30 lines
[10:31] <critical_max> m_ no
[10:31] <critical_max> !pastebin|m_
[10:31] <Pumpkin-> joris: sshd has a main parent process that spawns a child process when you connect. That child should keep running, even if the parent is shutdown/reinstalled.
[10:31] <codemagician> critical_max, it offers the "Download it from Adobe" link
[10:31] <critical_max> pumpkin: Ahh, nice.
[10:31] <wild> v_v now I am at the command prompt again, thanks (does the wq save my changes?)
[10:32] <critical_max> codemagician, did you go to the Adobe url and run its installer?
[10:32] <v_v> wild: yes, 'w' --> write  'q' -->quit
[10:32] <codemagician> critical_max, the Ubuntu software center shows the Abode Flash Plugin is installed
[10:32] <critical_max> ok
[10:32] <Pumpkin-> depending on your paranoia level about the upgrade, I'd just have a few spare windows open
[10:32] <joris> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_1%3a4.7p1-8ubuntu1.2_amd64.deb
[10:32] <joris> how do I fix this? ssh now refuses connection.
[10:32] <ikonia> !info openssh-server
[10:32] <wild> v_v cool, thanks!
[10:32] <v_v> codemagician: why not get a google chrome, and everything is already done
[10:32] <v_v> wild: np
[10:32] <ikonia> joris: what version of ubuntu is that ?
[10:33] <joris> hardy
[10:33] <codemagician> v_v, because im a developer and I use FF for development
[10:33] <v_v> codemagician: oh, i see
[10:33] <critical_max> codemagician, I don't know why it wouldn't be in the list. I just installed it but I did not have the open source plugin installed prior to the Adobe one, so my situation is different.
[10:33] <codemagician> v_v,  but i still want to find a way to switch between them
[10:33] <ikonia> joris: I would remove the file from the cache directory, re-run apt-get update, then re-reun the install
[10:34] <v_v> codemagician: the ff plugin firebug is awesome.
[10:34] <critical_max> For me, the Adobe flash plugin shows as "Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22"
[10:34] <joris> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_1%3a4.7p1-8ubuntu1.2_amd64.deb (--unpack): unable to make backup link of `./usr/sbin/sshd' before installing new version: Operation not permitted
[10:34] <codemagician> v_v, yeah i would miss it if i went to chrome
[10:34] <v_v> codemagician: chrome also has a debugger, which im not familiar with
[10:34] <codemagician> critical_max, i shutdown FF and re-installed the Adobe Flash plugin but it didn't get put into the Add-ons list within FF. hmm
[10:34] <Syria> critical_max:  i have removed phpmyadmin using this command apt-get purge-- remove phpmyadmin and after installing it again i couldn't login. :(
[10:35] <reliability> Is there a useful pdf viewer which I allows me to make annotations?
[10:35] <m_> critical_max: lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/584215/
[10:35] <critical_max> Syria: the phpmyadmin docs are going to be your best resource
[10:35] <Magic_Sam> Hi everyone :)
[10:35] <xardas008> hi Magic_Sam
[10:35] <critical_max> Syria: or someone else that is running it.
[10:35] <Magic_Sam> Hi xardas008 :)
[10:35] <v_v> codemagician: what's the version of ff ?
[10:35] <Dannyd> when I watch a youtube video using firefox, it gets stored in /tmp/, does anyone know where it is stored when I use chrome?
[10:36] <dbugger_> Can someone help me please? Im trying to connect to the XMPP of my office but it sazs that I cant connect because the certificate Hostname is "john Doe" and thats not expected...
[10:36] <agrab> Hi, I'd like to make a usb with several live distros to select from. Is this possible?
[10:36] <codemagician> v_v, 3.6.15
[10:36] <reliability> I've been looking for pdf viewers on the web, but haven't been successful so far...
[10:36] <v_v> codemagician: can you visit flash web sites ?
[10:36] <critical_max> m_, and lsusb -vv?
[10:36] <dbugger_> reliability, try google docs
[10:36] <critical_max> (sudo lsusb -vv)
[10:36] <m_> critical_max: lsusb http://paste.ubuntu.com/584217/
[10:36] <Magic_Sam> I'd like some help setting up a Canon USB scanner...
[10:36] <codemagician> v_v, yeah but those aren't ubuntu specific
[10:36] <critical_max> thanks, checking
[10:36] <reliability> dbugger_: needs to be offline... :-/
[10:37] <codemagician> v_v, i  like to install packages from Ubuntu center preferably
[10:37] <m_> critical_max: cheers!
[10:37] <codemagician> v_v, stick to the beaten track
[10:37] <maxillusionist> pdf readers for ubuntu
[10:37] <v_v> codemagician: that's ok, why should it be ubuntu-specific
[10:37] <dbugger_> reliability, doesnt it have appcache?
[10:37] <codemagician> v_v, i mean in terms of packaging
[10:37] <agrab> is it possible to install several distros on one usb?
[10:37] <m_> critical_max: card inserted when run those commands
[10:37] <v_v> codemagician: it doesn't matter
[10:37] <erUSUL> maxillusionist: the default document viewer does not work for you ?
[10:37] <codemagician> v_v, when I click youtube im offered a link to "downed it from adobe"
[10:38] <reliability> dbugger_: appcache means i can run google apps offline?
[10:38] <pauru> now how can i install the previous firefox that i had?
[10:38] <critical_max> m_, darn, i don't see your gadget at ALL. Oh. Try this: "tail -f /var/log/dmesg" and take the card in and out.
[10:38] <codemagician> v_v, but remember it 'should' already be installed
[10:38] <maxillusionist> nop erUSUL i read that reliability was saying something like that
[10:38] <erUSUL> codemagician: install ubuntu-restricted-extras package? it incudes flahs an many other usefull things
[10:38] <v_v> codemagician: put the flash plugin file to .mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[10:38] <codemagician> v_v, so it must be an issue with referencing it
[10:38] <v_v> codemagician: put the flash plugin file to ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[10:38] <dbugger_> reliability, if I can access Gmail offline, maybe you can access also google docs offline
[10:38] <critical_max> m_ one thing i have done to troubleshoot that kind of problem is google for "HP 2510 card reader linux" or whatever my EXACT model of PC is. Other people with the same problem are usually found. If your PC is not a custom build, that might help./
[10:39] <Magic_Sam> I can't get a Canon LiDE 110 to work on Ubuntu 9.04...I've read the sane man pages and it seems I need libusb 0.1.16 installed, but there's only libusb 0.1.14 in Ubuntu 9.04... What should I do ? Thanks !
[10:39] <codemagician> erUSUL, shall I do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[10:39] <m_> critical_max: what does thjis command?
[10:39] <critical_max> m_ looking at dmesg is a good way to see if ANYTHING happens and what devices it happens to
[10:39] <sl33k_> this error was encountered when i download eclipse? dpkg: failed to write status record about `libslf4j-java' to `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device
[10:39] <maxillusionist> dbugger what does that mean??
[10:39] <critical_max> sl33k_, lol your drive is full
[10:39] <erUSUL> codemagician: that should work. or you can use ubuntu software center
[10:40] <critical_max> sl33k_, your machine still works because it reserves a few % for the system for just this case
[10:40] <critical_max> sl33k_, just delete some files before continuing the install
[10:40] <charlos> hello again
[10:40] <v_v> sl33k_: you can sudo apt-get autoclean to remove the old packages
[10:41] <charlos> that name channel for ircd-ircu help  ?
[10:41] <codemagician> erUSUL, it says its downloading .exe files?
[10:41] <pauru> critical_max, Hey max, how can i install my previous ff?
[10:41] <antoine__> join #osp
[10:41] <critical_max> m_ you can also just run "dmesg" for a display of all the recent messages, but tailing the log allows you realtime
[10:41] <v_v> codemagician: does it work ?
[10:41] <erUSUL> codemagician: just wait for it to finish
[10:41] <critical_max> pauru: by removing the PPA repository in software center, but why on earth would you want to go back? addons?
[10:41] <codemagician> erUSUL, i guess those are like zip files?
[10:41] <erUSUL> codemagician: yes
[10:41] <randy2009> Hi, i have these permissions set: -r-sr-xr-x  1 nagios nagios 104K Jul  9  2009 check_icmp, i can't execute the binary because i need to be root, but i set the setuid flag, but it's not working, what am i missing?
[10:42] <bullgard4> What package is the Disk Mounter applet associated with (in order to report a bug)?
[10:42] <v_v> randy2009: because the ownser is not root
[10:42] <codemagician> erUSUL, it made no different to FF plugins
[10:42] <v_v> randy2009: when you run it, the effective user is nagios
[10:42] <critical_max> v_v yeah that one usually frees up a ton of space if a machine is THAT crufty..
[10:42] <sl33k_> critical_max, v_v: dpkg was interrupted during autoclean. What could i do now?
[10:42] <v_v> randy2009: not root as you expected
[10:42] <critical_max> sl33k_, you just have to delete one of your own user files, like a movie or music *cough*
[10:42] <v_v> critical_max: :)
[10:43] <v_v> sl33k_: any error messages ?
[10:43] <critical_max> sl33k_, the apt-get autoclean process was trying to clear up the same thing that led to the previous error, is why that didn't work
[10:43] <m_> critical_max: http://paste.ubuntu.com/584218/
[10:43] <ubuntulover> hello
[10:43] <pauru> critical_max, Yeah...
[10:43] <erUSUL> codemagician: flash is not listed?
[10:43] <joris> What's going on when I can't remove /usr/sbin/sshd ? (Operation not permitted)
[10:43] <joris> It's stopping me from reinstalling opensshd
[10:44] <sl33k_> v_v: dpkg: failed to write status record about `libslf4j-java' to `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device
[10:44] <m_> critical_max: is there anyway to run win driver for it?
[10:44] <randy2009> v_v: ok, so i need to set owner to root
[10:44] <charlos> that name channel for ircd-ircu help  ?
[10:44] <randy2009> thnx
[10:44] <v_v> sl33k_: can you give me a message of 'df -h'
[10:44] <charlos> hey again
[10:44] <v_v> randy2009: np
[10:44] <critical_max>  m_ so that is counting the period of time that you inserted a flash card into the reader, correct?
[10:44] <charlos> what do u say me ?
[10:45] <critical_max> m_ not for flash readers typically; there is "ndiswrapper" for Windows wireless drivers, from the bad old days when native Linux support was rarer
[10:45] <critical_max> m_ the next step is really to identify the card reader physically, get inside the case if you have to
[10:45] <m_> critical_max: card was inside when run it
[10:45] <codemagician> erUSUL, only shockwave flash from Gnash
[10:45] <v_v> sl33k_: if the autoclean doesn't work, you can just cd '/var/cache/apt/archives' and remove the deb files
[10:45] <randy2009> v_v: hehe, i need to set setuid agian if i change owner, nice (good security)
[10:45] <v_v> randy2009: yeah,
[10:45] <critical_max> m_ you need to run tail -f /var/log/dmesg *while* removing and then inserting your flash card, please
[10:45] <erUSUL> codemagician: uninstall gnash
[10:46] <vietred> hi, how to make mail (in indicator applet) recognize thunderbird?
[10:46] <critical_max> m_ that will show us any related messages that are generated
[10:46] <sl33k_> v_v: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/358212/
[10:46] <m_> critical_max: ok. doing it now
[10:46] <critical_max> m_ also we still don't know what your model of PC is, often you can google the card reader model from there
[10:47] <critical_max> and then google "linux card reader [my model of PC]" and find other people with same problem and the solution if it exists.
[10:47] <v_v> sl33k_: are you working on a live cd ?
[10:47] <critical_max> or "linux [my model of card reader]"
[10:47] <codemagician> erUSUL, it now shows Shockwave Flash 10.2 r152
[10:47] <erUSUL> codemagician: good
[10:47] <codemagician> erUSUL, its working
[10:47] <erUSUL> !yay | codemagician
[10:47] <sl33k_> v_v: no, wubi installed
[10:47] <littlegreen> Hey guys! I'm having trouble sharing my HP printer with windows users.... it's pretty much already set-up and shared, they just don't see it...
[10:48] <critical_max> sl33k_, it looks like your wubi partition is full, is it that 6.5G loopback correct?
[10:48] <joris> rm: cannot remove `/usr/sbin/sshd': Operation not permitted
[10:48] <joris> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 290K 2008-05-14 16:39 /usr/sbin/sshd
[10:48] <joris> wtf?
[10:48] <codemagician> erUSUL, so I guess you can't have gnash and adobe side by side?
[10:48] <m_> critical_max: same thing.  it's hp mini 110-3030nr
[10:48] <v_v> sl33k_: the root partition is full. can you release some space ?
[10:48] <critical_max> sl33k_, resizing wubi partition is not practical, i have looked into that extensively. you need to uninstall wubi and reinstall with a larger partition size, it is much much faster than resizing
[10:48] <erUSUL> codemagician: no
[10:48] <critical_max> been there, done that
[10:48] <critical_max> m_ ok now we're getting somewhere :) one sec
[10:49] <m_> critical_max: it seems that it's only for win
[10:49] <codemagician> erUSUL, I switched before because Adobe kept crashing
[10:49] <v_v> joris: do you have a proper permission ?
[10:49] <v_v> joris: like, are you root ?
[10:49] <joris> i am root yes.
[10:49] <critical_max> sl33k_, but you should still be able to remove something from your home directory under wubi for right now... to fix it
[10:49] <sl33k_> critical_max: yea
[10:50] <v_v> joris: if you just want to reinstall sshd , try apt-get purge openssh-server
[10:50] <littlegreen> any ideas anybody?
[10:50] <critical_max> m_ OK according to softpedia, you have a Realtek USB 2.0 brand card reader
[10:50] <joris> v_v: Package openssh-server is not installed, so not removed
[10:50] <sl33k_> v_v: i am in archives directory now, how could i remove deb packages from here?
[10:50] <v_v> joris: did you try the 'purge' ?
[10:50] <joris> v_v: Yes, it gives me the said output
[10:50] <v_v> sl33k_: a simple way. sudo rm *deb
[10:50] <v_v> sl33k_: :)
[10:50] <critical_max> m_ the latest windows driver is "6.1.7600.48"
[10:51] <m_> critical_max: correct
[10:51] <v_v> joris: ps -ef | grep sshd
[10:51] <erUSUL> sl33k_: sudo apt-get clean
[10:51] <joris> v_v: nussing
[10:51] <erUSUL> sl33k_: do not go around doing "sudo rm" in system directories
[10:51] <pauru> critical_max, i removed the ppas and reloaded, but i can still see firefox 4 in synaptic
[10:52] <v_v> joris: wierd, anything of   dmesg | tail
[10:52] <dyd> hi all
[10:52] <littlegreen> could anything go wrong when upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04 LTS?
[10:52] <sl33k_> v_v: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[10:52] <joris> v_v: Nothing in particular that makes any sense to me
[10:52] <sl33k_> erUSUL: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[10:52] <erUSUL> littlegreen: yes it could. nothing is 100% safe in this life :)
[10:52] <charlos> hey
[10:53] <charlos> help me please
[10:53] <charlos> Starting irc server daemon: ircd-ircu.
[10:53] <charlos> root@ubuntu:/home/charlos#
[10:53] <critical_max> m_ see http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1519294.html last post
[10:53] <FloodBot2> charlos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:53] <erUSUL> sl33k_: "sudo ls" fails the same way ?
[10:53] <v_v> joris: do you have selinux enabled ?
[10:53] <charlos> how to command cd ircd-ircu  ?
[10:53] <critical_max> m_ someone else with your same problem this month. I would start looking hard at Launchpad and find out if your problem is listed as an Ubuntu bug yet.
[10:53] <sl33k_> critical_max, v_v: is it 6gb because i selected 5 gb install for wubi?
[10:53] <joris> v_v: How do I find out?
[10:53] <littlegreen> erUSUL, do you think upgrading my system might resolve my printer-sharing related problem in any way?
[10:53] <critical_max> sl33k_, yeah, that's tiny, you want at least 10-15GB even for a decent test installation
[10:53] <v_v> joris: ok, i guess you don'y
[10:53] <v_v> joris: ok, i guess you don't
[10:54] <critical_max> sl33k_, just to make SURE you won't run out of room like you just did
[10:54] <dyd> i'm a ubuntu newbie: i'd like to put some of "places" icon in the panel to a open them quickly, but right-clicking over the voice in places menu won't show any menu, it just opens... any hint?
[10:54] <joris> v_v: I have a /var/lib/dpkg/info/libselinux1.list
[10:54] <sl33k_> erUSUL: yea, with one more error: `lock partial` shown
[10:54] <erUSUL> littlegreen: how would i know? i do not know anything about the problem :)
[10:54] <v_v> joris: when does it happen when you try to install openssh-server ?
[10:54] <littlegreen> well I have a HP printer set-up and shared but win users don't see it...
[10:54] <erUSUL> sl33k_: you changed your hostnane?
[10:55] <sl33k_> critical_max: what could be possible now without installing it again
[10:55] <joris> v_v: When I try to install openssh_server, it gets operation not permitted removing /usr/sbin/sshd
[10:55] <erUSUL> !9.10
[10:55] <critical_max> dyd: just drag what you want to link, from the File Manager, to the menu bar
[10:55] <critical_max> dyd: folders etc
[10:55] <critical_max> sl33k_, if you can't think of any files to delete I don't know what to tell you
[10:55] <m_> critical_max: OK, thanks!!!
[10:56] <critical_max> sl33k_, there has to be something you can remove
[10:56] <sl33k_> erUSUL: no i suppose
[10:56] <v_v> joris: 'getenforce', any output ?
[10:56] <joris> command not found
[10:56] <critical_max> m_ You're welcome, and I really mean it about looking for the bug on Launchpad. You can follow the bug, and get an email when the status changes. Very helpful.
[10:56] <v_v> joris: ls -Z
[10:56] <critical_max> m_ Or if you don't find it you can report it and it will get fixed (eventually (probably) ) :)
[10:56] <dyd> critical_max: with file manager you mean nautilus?
[10:57] <DJones> !ff4 > DJones
[10:57] <joris> v_v: What should I look for?
[10:57] <critical_max> dyd: yes
[10:57] <critical_max> File Browser it shows as, pardon me
[10:57] <v_v> joris: if you see some more information than '?' that means selinux is enabled, anywhere
[10:57] <sl33k_> critical_max: my music n stuff is in different partition, so how could i manually delete from the full partition?
[10:57] <m_> critical_max: thanks. appreciate it honestly:)
[10:57] <ikonia> selinux is not installed by default on ubuntu
[10:57] <joris> v_v: I get ? for every binary in there
[10:57] <dyd> ok, if i drag from the left icon list the icon i want to move it justs don't drop the icon in the panel
[10:57] <dyd> those are some network links
[10:57] <dyd> does that make difference?
[10:58] <v_v> ikonia: he got a file sshd cannot be removed even if he is root
[10:58] <dyd> they are like \\ipaddress\c$
[10:58] <ikonia> v_v: that doesn't mean it's ssh]
[10:58] <ikonia> he probably can't remove it as it's in use
[10:58] <v_v> ikonia: and dmesg show nothing, any idea ?