[00:35] <volker> since 14.04 activated google-chrome windows in other workspaces are shown in the current workspaces windows buttons panel
[00:35] <volker> I never had this problem in all the versions before and I don't find where to disable it. I checked various places and googled a lot around
[01:26]  * whomomlikes spits on ATI Radeon card.
[02:38] <xangua> Is there a workaround for the black screen after suspend in 14.04 ?
[02:44] <veebull_> there's some discussion on it on the ubuntu forums... if you do a seach you'll probably hit paydirt.
[02:48] <Kekai> Xangua
[02:48] <Kekai> Its probably light locker
[02:49] <Kekai> The best solution at the moment is downloading Xscreensaver, and disabling Light Locker
[02:56] <xangua> that's not solving a problem, that's avoiding it
[02:57] <xangua> just like I avoid xfce mediaplayer no playing half the dvd's I try and use vlc :P
[02:57] <Unit193> lp 1303736
[03:40] <someguy12345> Are there any updates on the OpenVPN bug?
[05:47] <hmagoo> volker, I haven't had chrome on 14.04 yet but I'm not having that problem right now with chromium
[06:09] <phasip> Hey, I'm having trouble with two screensavers starting, one looks like a debian one and one is the old ugly xorg one, Is this a common problem?
[07:09] <assistente> hi to all! someone can help me debug cups printing on a konica-minolta c350 to enable job accounting?
[08:34] <evildead> hello all
[08:35] <evildead> i have some problem to display some apps in the menu. in menulibre two apps have same parameters but one is not displaying
[08:35] <evildead> is there any tips to do that ?
[08:52] <TheDexter1111> hi there, i was wondering if someone could help me write a (hopefully) simple script to change my login backdrop when I change my wallpaper? Im not really experienced with writing scripts, but Id like to give it a try. any help is much appreciated.
[09:21] <starrats> good morning everyone
[09:30] <james0r2> hello there
[09:48] <assistente> hi to all! i have a problem: after screen lock on xubuntu 14.04 64bit the keyboard don't work on firefox, then of i switch to a terminal window and type something, then switch to firefox the keyboard writes. succestions?
[10:38] <nikolam> what to use to fast search documents in xubuntu?
[12:26] <xubuntu877> Hello
[12:27] <xubuntu877> I have problem with my settings dialog on my desktop: When I start the settings, it will come up, but its empty
[12:35] <xubuntu877> hmm just found it, when running xfce4-settings-manager as root does work
[12:36] <xubuntu877> anyone an idea why its not working as normal user?
[12:41] <TheSheep> xubuntu877: what did you do just before it stopped working?
[12:42] <xubuntu877> not sure, didn't work for some time already
[12:50] <volker> hmagoo: I have it also with firefox. how I can reproduce it: start firefox, start a terminal. type in "sleep 5;firefox www.google.com"; switch workspace in less than 5 seconds
[12:51] <volker> hmagoo: firefox will be shown in the current workspace blinking, even if it is in another workspace
[12:54] <xubuntu877> actually my window comes up, but its just empty frame, showing everything ok, but now items of screen or whatever is shown
[13:14] <xubuntu877> is there anything about this xfce2-settings-manger saved in .config directory
[13:43] <starrats> I got bluesabre's emil concerning 'libremenu', how important is this to perform all these things for trusty?
[14:54] <john_____> have anybody managed to setup encrypted swap?
[14:55] <john_____> it doesn't show it in /dev/mapper when I put UUID in crypttab
[14:55] <baizon> encrypted swap?
[14:56] <TheSheep> yes, it just works
[14:56] <john_____> oh, its me than :(
[14:56] <baizon> well i don't use swap at all :)
[14:57] <john_____> its scarry to go swapless, I think , so I put /dev/sda3 in crypttab, this time it shows in mapper
[14:57] <john_____> but fstab doesn't mount it
[14:57] <john_____> says swapon read swap header failed, any ideas?
[14:58] <john_____> I set it up with them ecryptfs-setup-swap
[15:25] <john_swap> hi, I've managed to set up my encrypted swap
[15:26] <john_swap> created partition, turned swap on, set up encryted swap with ecryptfs-setup-swap
[15:27] <john_swap> turned swap off, changed crypttrad uuid to /dev/sda3,  mkswap /dev/mapper/sda3, and rebbot.
[15:28] <john_swap> */dev/mapper/cryptswap1, so is it still encrypted, how can I be sure? I think it might not be, since I used mkswap on /dev/mapper/cryptoswap1
[15:29] <john_swap> does formatting cryptswap1 with mkswap removes its encryption?
[15:34] <oaulakh> anyone know how to reduce brightness in ubunutu studio
[15:35] <bazhang>  #ubuntustudio  oaulakh should help with that
[15:36] <oaulakh> they ask me ask u
[15:36] <oaulakh> they are not good at de stuff
[15:36] <oaulakh> DE stuff
[15:37] <ElderDryas> By that logic #xubuntu should answer fedora questions when someone has fedora xfce installed
[15:38] <oaulakh> yeah i have fedora xfce installed
[15:38] <ElderDryas> and the answer is Brightness Plugin on the panel...which is why I doubt they sent you here for that.
[15:38] <ElderDryas> it's too easy an answer
[15:38] <oaulakh> where?
[15:38] <bazhang> #fedora
[15:39] <oaulakh> there is no plugin regarding brightness
[15:40] <ElderDryas> this is why I don't stay here long...can't stand stupidity
[15:43] <oaulakh> hahaha
[15:54] <xubuntu203> I'm a new xubuntu user.  I have been successful in installing Linex on my Windows XP computer and everything seems to work except I cannot play mp3 music.  I have installed all the proper plugins and when I double click on the song in Parole the progress bar moves like it's playing but I get no sound.  I have a Creative sound card and it works fine in XP.  Any help with this issue will be greatly appreciated.
[15:55] <bazhang> xubuntu203, install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:56] <bazhang> xubuntu203, following that, open a terminal and type alsamixer , and make sure nothing is muted
[15:57] <junka> i have formated a fat32 partition on a usb but i cant write on it from other pcs
[15:58] <junka> i tried right click to change permissions but they change to none automatically
[15:58] <elfy> xubuntu203: also in alsamixer - check that the Analog/Digital Jack shows as MM if there is one
[16:35] <bah_> hi all, is it only me that find it difficult to find the right answer then google questions related to ubuntu/linux ?
[16:36] <elfy> bah_: I doubt it's only you - you'll see the same question asked hundreds of times :)
[16:37] <elfy> bah_: but I try to use googlubuntu for search - it only searches *buntu resources - including wiki etc
[16:39] <bah_> elfy, oh, I didn't know about  googlubuntu !  will try that !
[16:39] <bah_> : )
[16:42] <bah_> elfy, yes the problem is that as you say "you'll see the same question asked hundreds of times" , trying to find an answer using  googlubuntu but don't get the right hits.
[16:42] <bah_> anyway.... I want to change the keymap in the xubuntu terminal, done it before but forgot how ?
[16:42] <bah_> do you know how to do that ?
[16:43] <bah_> the "right" serarch term ?
[16:43] <elfy> afraid not
[16:44] <elfy> I'd start with keymap - I'd not include xubuntu in the search though
[16:46] <bah_> yea, I remember there is some settings I think in  "all settings" that let you map diffrent applications by hover over the shortcut and then change it on the fly, anybody know this ?
[16:48] <bah_> elfy, yes I don't know if this is a xfce future or a general linux desktop future
[16:48] <bah_> ?
[16:49] <bah_> ok did find the answer http://docs.xfce.org/faq
[16:55] <SunilJoshi> Hello, thunar is getting crashed most of the time, i am on Xubuntu14.04
[16:56] <SunilJoshi> This happens when I close the thunar window
[16:58] <bah_> SunilJoshi, don't you get any error message ?
[16:58] <SunilJoshi> yes i do
[16:58] <SunilJoshi> bah_: ^^
[16:59] <SunilJoshi> ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error
[17:00] <SunilJoshi> where i can see the core?
[17:00] <SunilJoshi> /var/core
[17:00] <SunilJoshi> ?
[17:01] <SunilJoshi> hmm, there is a core in /var/crash  _usr_bin_thunar.1000.crash
[17:02] <bah_> SunilJoshi, don't you get some kind of message under the ""settings" tab in the "ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error" window ?
[17:03] <bah_> sorry !  *""settings" tab  = "show Details" tab
[17:04] <SunilJoshi> yes, it shows executable path is /usr/bin/thunar
[17:04] <SunilJoshi> and lot more information, but i am not able to copy it from there :(
[17:06] <SunilJoshi> bah_: ^^
[17:06] <bah_> SunilJoshi,  I find these windows annoying, It should be better to provide a error report that you can goggle easy
[17:07] <SunilJoshi> bah_: error report, you mean to say exact error?
[17:08] <bah_> SunilJoshi,  yes,  some message you can google  : )
[17:08] <SunilJoshi> bah_: ok :) !
[17:10] <SunilJoshi> it seems i found one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/1233928
[17:12] <bah_> SunilJoshi,  sorry I can't help, have you tried to restart ? That often solve issues related to mounted volumes
[17:21] <Morrog> how would i set up two user accounts (on xubuntu 13.10) and have them share the same firefox profile?
[17:22] <amigamagic> why you should share a firefox profile between two accounts?
[17:23] <genii> amigamagic: Could be useful on a kiosk type system, one is user one admin.
[17:24] <Morrog> one account is for daily internet stuff (using normal pulseaudio). my second one is related to audio production (using jack and alsa)
[17:25] <Morrog> but i want to have the same firefox profile
[17:25] <bah_> I now been able to set my key-shortcuts for the Xubuntu terminal but I should also like to be able to jump to the beginning of a line and the beginning of a word using key-shortcuts, anybody know how to set that ?
[17:26] <bah_> Morrog, sorry can't help
[17:26] <amigamagic> I don't think firefox has been designed to permit such a thing
[17:26] <amigamagic> firefox creates a profile for each user
[17:27] <Morrog> too bad
[17:27] <amigamagic> maybe you could try to copy the profile from an user account to another one. But you should create hard links
[17:28] <amigamagic> in this way, if you mod something in a dir, the mod will be reflected in the other account
[17:28] <bah_> Morrog, can you not find the answer here ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1138477
[17:29] <bah_> amigamagic, I can't see why this should be a problem ? he just have to find the right path/permissions
[17:29] <Morrog> yeah, i think i don't have the right type of permissions
[17:30] <Morrog> i made a new group, put both users in there
[17:30] <Morrog> and made that firefox folder readable/writeable for both
[17:30] <Morrog> so i don't know what else i can do
[17:30] <genii> Conceivably, you could make a specific user which never logs in, put two other users and them in same group, link the non-login user's /home/name/.mozilla/firefox/abcdefgh.default  into the directories of the two users which will be using the same profile
[17:31] <genii> I think you'd probably also need to change default startup of firefox to add --no-remote as well
[17:31] <Morrog> i'll try that
[17:31] <Morrog> thank you for the help so far :)
[17:32] <bah_> yes, I should also try genii's suggestion
[17:36] <genii> Another alternative would to just rsync one user's abcdefgh.default directory contents over to the other and chown it, on some cron job
[17:37] <genii> Ah, they left.
[19:54] <bah_> hi all, do anybody know how to change key-shortcuts for moving the cursor to the beginning/end of the line/word in terminal ?
[19:55] <TheSheep> you would need to look for how to customize bash
[19:56] <bah_> the current keys are listed here "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal" under "Change the text", but I want to remap them
[19:57] <bah_> TheSheep, you think so ? How can i do that ?
[19:58] <TheSheep> google?
[19:58] <TheSheep> http://www.humbug.in/2010/custom-key-bindings-keyboard-shortcuts-in-bash/
[20:06] <bah_> TheSheep, are there no GUI for setting this in the terminal emulator that come with xubuntu ? In OSX/ITerm2 you have a GUI for this.
[20:07] <hmagoo> volker, do you mean another window with google.com or the original window?
[20:08] <TheSheep> bah_: no, bash is not a gui program
[20:09] <TheSheep> bah_: it would make no sense to have gui for it
[20:12] <bah_> TheSheep, so you say  that the shortcuts  in the link I provided are set using bash ?  do you know where the config file for this is located, I can't find any info google
[20:13] <bah_> TheSheep, (the grep command in the link you provided don't return anything on my system)
[20:14] <David-A> bah_: bash use inputline to for interactive command line editing. it can be configured with the bind commands in bash itself, or in the ~/.inputrc config file. you can define or re-define keys for beginning-of-line and end-of-line
[20:14] <David-A> bah_: see "man bash"
[20:20] <David-A> bah_: (the grep command on the page at humbug.in is not supposed to be executed by the reader. it is an example of a long command and how to define a key that helps typing it.)
[20:20] <bah_> David-A, thanks a lot, I think i solved it
[20:21] <bah_> are looking at "/etc/inputrc" for the moment and it seems the shortcuts are defined there : )
[20:24] <David-A> bah_: yea, but only a handful of them. they are system wide defaults that was not provided by default in readline itself, i suppose.
[20:25] <David-A> bah_: if you want to add more, or override defaults, you should do it in ~/.inputrc, not in /etc/inputrc. (or add bind commands in ~/.bashrc)
[20:55] <bah_> David-A, ls
[20:57] <bah_> David-A,  sorry, that should been in the terminal : ), anyway I still struggling with mapping the keys and your suggestions, will be back later  : )
[20:59] <David-A> bah_: when you have updated ~/.bashrc you may need to re-read it. i recall somewhere it says it rereads automatically but you may need to do ctrl-c ctrl-r, or start a new bash.
[20:59] <David-A> bah_: if you make "bind" commands in ~/.bashrc you only have to issue the same commands in a terminal to test it there.
[21:01] <bah_> David-A, that was a good tip,  thanks
[21:18] <volker> hmagoo: no, the google window name that is shown in the window buttons panel
[21:23] <hmagoo> volker, if I launch a chromium link from here it joins the existing window on the other workspace and switches focus to that workspace. but if I launch chromium it opens a new window on this workspace.
[21:27] <volker> hmagoo: no, you need to have the chromium window already open. Then you switch the workspace and open a new window (e.g. via command line) and you jump there or get the blinking etc. You can disable to jump there automatically, you should be able to disable the blinking from other workspaces, but it does not seem to work for me in 14.04
[21:31] <starrats> I use 4 workspaces, set up that way, one for each window.  Firefox, Thunderbird, hexchat/weechat(depending on my mood) and the last workspace remains open for terminal or any other app I might use.
[22:27] <meek_geek> how r u
[23:31] <cubed_root> i installed xubuntu 13 on a new partition (i have windows 7 and xubuntu 14 on their own partitions as well)
[23:31] <cubed_root> do i need to install grub on the new partition?
[23:38] <David-A> cubed_root: it depends how you have configured booting. normally installation of (x)ubuntu in a *partition* also installs grub in the boot record (mbr) of the *disk*, with a menu of all systems it found.
[23:41] <cubed_root> thanks David-A, that's what i was expecting, but when i boot i dont see my new installation
[23:42] <cubed_root> so i'm working on adding a script to grub using a tutorial i found
[23:43] <cubed_root> what i'm stuck on right now is where i should point that new menu option.  the tutorial has "linux /boot/vmlinuz" & "initrd /boot/initrd.img"
[23:44] <cubed_root> oh, that's probably it is on my new partition, i think i'll try that
[23:44] <cubed_root> (that's probably *what* it is)
[23:44] <David-A> cubed_root: if you didn't disable or change grub install during the installation, there should be a command to re-scan the disk for systems and a command to re-install or update grub in the mbr. (maybe the same command with different options)
[23:45] <cubed_root> yes, tutorial mentions "update-grub"
[23:46] <cubed_root> i should run this before i start mucking with grub scripts?
[23:48] <David-A> cubed_root: probably. (if your script and grub have different ideas about the boot process, you may have a maintainability headache after some future update)
[23:49] <David-A> cubed_root: (but if you know what you are doing, you can take control over grub and the (x)ubuntu default behaviour)
[23:51] <cubed_root> thanks David-A
[23:53] <cubed_root> update-grub did exactly what i wanted -- dug around and found my new partition and installation!
[23:53] <cubed_root> now to test if the grub menu is updated in reboot...


[00:03] <smoser> blackboxsw: still there?
[00:04] <smoser> i just uploaded.
[00:05] <smoser> only difference from yours is the order of the cherry picks (and teh quilt/git diffs mentioen dpreviouisly)
[01:04] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8cMxzs2yjK/ <-- blackboxsw that is what i think we need to debian/cherry-pick
[01:04] <smoser> and i think we should probably move that out of debian/ and next to new-upstream-snapshot
[01:12] <blackboxsw> smoser: back from kiddo bedtime routine.
[01:13] <blackboxsw> smoser: yeah let's move it out into qa-scripts instead of trying to fixup each series
[01:13] <smoser> i'm here for  abit.
[01:14] <blackboxsw> I'll repost then
[01:14] <blackboxsw> with 8 char comitish
[01:16] <blackboxsw> or smoser looks like you merged it, or your version of it into ubuntu/xenial
[01:17] <blackboxsw> so we need SRU templates on those two bugs right for the xenial update
[01:17] <smoser> ah. yeah, i did merge and uploaded.
[01:17] <smoser> so yeah.. we do need sru templates.
[01:18] <blackboxsw> ok I'll add them
[01:20] <smoser> yeah, i just skipped the round trip with you
[01:24] <blackboxsw> yeah, since I hadn't yet fixed my env up.
[01:24] <blackboxsw> sorry for that
[01:24] <blackboxsw> *wasted time
[14:48] <smoser> blackboxsw: you did not write/start any sru templates did you ? for
[14:48] <smoser> bug 1766401
[14:48] <smoser> or
[14:48] <smoser> bug 1767166
[14:49] <smoser> just wondering. i will start them, but didn't want to duplicate work.
[14:50] <smoser> ah. i see you did. good work.
[15:38] <blackboxsw> started, but didn't get through many
[16:20] <blackboxsw> artful SRU up for review https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/344901
[16:21] <smoser> blackboxsw: the quitl refresh didn't seem to stick
[16:21] <smoser> stick/take
[16:21] <smoser> i wanted a/<path> and b/<path> in the patches/
[16:21] <smoser> not cloud-inti.orig/ and cloud-init/
[16:22] <smoser> i expected QUILT_REFRESH_PASTCH_ARGS to do that
[16:23]  * blackboxsw checks the patch to make sure I applied it . this was from running the script I hoisted over into qa-scripts (with the patch  I think, because commitish is now 8 chars). I'll try peeking at quilt args on my env to see
[16:23] <smoser> er.. QUILT_REFRESH_ARGS=
[16:24] <smoser> i spelled it correctly in the patch i think
[16:25] <blackboxsw> seems to match the man page
[16:25] <blackboxsw> trying on the cli
[16:25] <smoser> well... QUILT_REFRESH_ARGS
[16:25] <smoser> is not actually documented in man page itself
[16:25] <smoser> only by reference
[16:26] <blackboxsw> ahh right, and the man page seems to state adding those params to both QUILT_REFRESH_ARGS. and QUILT_DIFF_ARGS
[16:27] <blackboxsw> I'll re-run with both exported to see if if behaves differently
[16:29] <blackboxsw> nope, no change here  with both exports
[16:29] <smoser> you have a ~/.quiltrc ?
[16:29] <blackboxsw> ENOEXIST
[16:32] <smoser> can you try this:
[16:32] <smoser>  https://hastebin.com/raw/uxunixiyad
[16:32] <blackboxsw> trying
[16:33] <smoser> c-i is finally happy with me at https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/344894
[16:33] <blackboxsw> --- a/cloudinit/sources/DataSourceConfigDrive.py
[16:33] <blackboxsw> +++ b/cloudinit/sources/DataSourceConfigDrive.py
[16:33] <blackboxsw> looks good smoser
[16:34] <blackboxsw> will pull that into qa-scripts
[16:37] <blackboxsw> smoser: re-pushed artful branch
[17:00] <blackboxsw> https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/344901 is updated and qa-scripts docs are updates for cherry-pick script
[17:00] <blackboxsw> grabbing collect-logs branch
[17:10] <smoser> blackboxsw: neither here nor there... but other times when i'd copied one of the cherry-picks across, i'd cherry-picked from the first branch
[17:10] <smoser> ie, you could have:
[17:10] <smoser>  cherry-pick 44a44ae18e7ee51322110dc66107d2a58f5ff304
[17:11] <smoser> err..
[17:11] <smoser> git cherry-pick -x 44a44ae18e7ee51322110dc66107d2a58f5ff304
[17:18] <blackboxsw> ahh I see, so I could have pulled the ubuntu/xenial commit into ubuntu/artful too
[17:19] <blackboxsw> shall I do that instead and push again
[17:20] <smoser> this is fine. i just pushed
[17:20] <smoser> the value in git cherry-pick is the '-x'
[17:20] <smoser> then the commit message gives a reference to the original
[17:20] <smoser> but only realy in text form
[17:31] <blackboxsw> smoser: couple comments https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/344894
[17:31] <blackboxsw> can you update the description to describe how this fixes (avoids) the traceback in chrooted envs that don't have a /run directory
[17:32] <smoser> oh. i didn'teven thikn of that. i was just tyring to run it on my desktop :)
[17:34] <blackboxsw> fixes the world without a 2nd thought
[17:34] <blackboxsw> I added the bug to your descr, just didn't update the text beyond that
[17:46] <smoser> blackboxsw: updated... thanks. updated description and pushed a "drop which" commit.
[18:12] <blackboxsw> sorry was just invalidating another collect-logs bug
[18:37] <blackboxsw> landed
[18:37] <jocha> blackboxsw: raharper: Hey, I just added a new iteration on this merge request: https://code.launchpad.net/~jocha/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/344192 :)
[18:37] <blackboxsw> ahh blah jocha, on it :)
[18:37] <blackboxsw> thanks
[18:38] <jocha> no problem!
[18:51] <smoser> blackboxsw: https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/343846 updated
[19:00] <blackboxsw> jocha:thanks for working the unit test isolation stuff in the azure branch.  minor unit test update request posted to your branch, if there is a way to tease apart some of those unit tests into separate focused test classes, we won't have to append *args to each test case to ignore unneeded mocks
[19:00] <blackboxsw> adding comment now per something like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gXNTdj4rq5/
[19:01] <blackboxsw> I'd like to see us separate a lot of those test cases so we don't have superfluous mocks being setup (and subsequently ignored) by specific unit tests
[19:01] <blackboxsw> so if there are some easy cases where your branch can do that excellent.
[19:02] <blackboxsw> if it's too much work, you can say that in the branch too. I just dont want to add more tests cases that have to pass and ignore *args if we can avoid it
[19:02] <jocha> alright sure, let me take a look into this!
[20:36] <smoser> cosmic
[20:36] <smoser> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/cosmic
[21:17] <blackboxsw> sure enough! long live cosmic
[21:54] <blackboxsw> minor comment here https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/344544
[22:19] <jocha> blackboxsw: I've updated the unit tests: https://code.launchpad.net/~jocha/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/344192 :)


[05:01] <maps> morning
[07:52] <czajkows1i> Aloha
[08:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:07] <bashrc> morning
[08:28] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Buy a Book Day! 😃
[08:29] <davmor2> JamesTait: Welcome back :D can I buy a film based on a book instead?
[08:30] <JamesTait> davmor2, I think that's the opposite of what's intended. 😉
[08:34] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:36]  * popey falls off his chair
[08:36] <popey> good morning
[08:38] <bigcalm> :P
[08:39] <bigcalm> I may have joined, but I bet I end up being a lurker
[08:39]  * bashrc lurks
[08:51] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:52] <zmoylan-pi> morning sassenachs and non sassenachs
[08:54]  * leecowdrey morning
[15:24] <SuperEngineer> I whoopsied my Ubuntu 14.0 .0->.1->.2->.3 [don't ask, TLDR] ;)
[15:24] <SuperEngineer> & so installed a fresh 14.04.03 - I've just noticed that I used to be able to click on an app in the launcher to launch it, then click again to minimise
[15:25] <SuperEngineer> ...on fresh install, I can't click on lancher icon to minimise... any thoughts on what I have/haven't done in my fresh install that stops this behaviour?
[15:34] <davmor2> SuperEngineer: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/minimize-on-click-for-unity-launcher.html
[15:40] <SuperEngineer> davmor2,  whoopee -thanks, mate, that was whatI'd done before & forgotten.  Many thanks
[18:33] <maps> poland v gib ko 12mins;D
[18:53] <davmor2> Here we are now Educate us
[19:21] <diddledan> ello
[22:19]  * diddledan sings "I came in like a bowling ball!"
[22:26]  * zmoylan-pi sings 'you're the reason our kids are so ugly'
[22:27] <diddledan> \o/
[22:32]  * Myrtti had to put the Chatroulette version of the Wrecking Ball on youtube
[22:33] <diddledan> lol
[22:33] <Myrtti> no links provided, find it yourself. Then I proceeded into watching the Call Me Maybe and All I Want For Christmas Is You Chatroulette videos, too.
[22:33] <Myrtti> thanks for that, diddledan
[22:55] <diddledan> Myrtti: any tmie! :-p
[22:55] <diddledan> time**
[23:12] <maps> anyone else watching narcos?
[23:13] <diddledan> o_O
[23:14] <maps> netflix series
[23:17] <diddledan> don't know it
[23:17] <diddledan> I'll look for it in a bit


[10:56] <elacheche> Hey! I share a photo for my engagement Cake, I'm an Ubuntu Member and I'm engaged to an Ubuntu member too :) So we wrote this on our cake "Special thanks for the UBUNTU Community" → https://twitter.com/hashtag/ubuntu?src=hash
[10:56] <elacheche> s/for/of
[10:57] <elacheche> oups wrong url sorry → https://twitter.com/elacheche/status/546696499137355776/photo/1
[11:22] <nhaines> elacheche: hey, congratulations!  And all the best to you both.  :)
[13:04] <elacheche> Thx nhaines :D
[13:06] <nhaines> elacheche: I'm so happy for you both.  :D
[13:07] <elacheche> :D That proves that community is like a 2nd family for all of us :D
[13:07] <nhaines> I'm definitely lucky to be a part of it all.  :)
[13:10] <elacheche> Yep :) And We are blessed too :))
[18:54] <Dellakouda> hi
[19:03] <nhaines> IRC does not work that way!
[19:03] <wxl> yeah you can't say hi
[19:03] <wxl> it's against the rules!
[19:03] <nhaines> I know.  The nerve of some people!
[19:04] <wxl> !ask
[19:04] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply.


[07:05] <ricotz> hello, please get libreoffice accepted - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=
[07:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pulseaudio [source] (bionic-proposed) [1:11.1-1ubuntu7.6]
[07:19] <cpaelzer> sil2100: hi, do you remember when we said spice can be a zero day SRU past the release?
[07:19] <cpaelzer> sil2100: I don't know what happened exactly but its state is odd (at least to me)
[07:20] <cpaelzer> I got the "it got released" mail yesterday and thought things are done
[07:20] <cpaelzer> and also I see
[07:20] <cpaelzer>  spice | 0.14.2-4ubuntu3          | focal-updates    | source
[07:20] <cpaelzer> so far so good
[07:20] <cpaelzer> but just now I got a mail about it being accepted to proposed
[07:20] <cpaelzer> there must be something wrong in between release/SRU of this package
[07:21] <cpaelzer> could you (or another archive/sru person) take a look and tell me if any action on my side is needed?
[07:23] <cpaelzer> Laney: you released the package, let me know if there was anything special about it?
[07:26] <sil2100> cpaelzer: I think everything looks fine here
[07:27] <cpaelzer> ok, I was just wondering about the order the mails arrived
[07:27] <cpaelzer> and would have assumed that it will be removed from -proposed
[07:27] <cpaelzer> when being released
[07:27] <sil2100> cpaelzer: so I see the package in both -updates and -proposed right now, with the -proposed one being published earlier than -updates, as expected
[07:27] <cpaelzer> really
[07:27] <cpaelzer> ok then it is just mail-ordering
[07:27] <sil2100> ah, no, once a series gets stable, the -proposed removal is manual
[07:27] <cpaelzer> thanks for checking sil2100
[07:27] <sil2100> Like we clean out the -proposed packages after accepting SRUs manually ;)
[08:49] <marcustomlinson> tjaalton: could I ask for a review on the update-manager SRU for focal. It's a very small change for a rather large impact
[08:51] <tjaalton> marcustomlinson: sure
[08:51] <marcustomlinson> thanks!
[09:50] <tjaalton> huh, sru-review it's saying I'm not authorized to accept it
[09:50] <tjaalton> maybe lp login expired, but shouldn't it refresh it?
[09:53] <Laney> I think we didn't give ubuntu-sru the right access yet
[09:54] <Laney> step 15 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewReleaseCycleProcess - who can do that?
[09:55] <tjaalton> ahah
[09:56] <tjaalton> apw: ^ can you help?
[09:56] <tjaalton> or sil2100 maybe..
[09:57] <Laney> it's "launchpad.Edit"
[09:57] <Laney> nto sure if that is ~ubuntu-drivers or an actual Launchpad admin
[09:57] <tjaalton> wgrant then? :)
[09:58] <wgrant> Not me.
[09:58] <wgrant> Probably archive owner
[09:58] <wgrant> But I forget and am afk
[09:59] <tjaalton> sure, no worries
[09:59] <Laney> Someone in ~ubuntu-archive might as well try
[10:02] <doko> Laney: why start again with the wiki page when we have the google doc?
[10:03] <Laney> because linking a private document in a public channel is quite unfriendly
[10:03] <doko> then make it public? sil2100?
[10:03] <Laney> The wiki pages are still canonical
[10:03] <Laney> sorry this is an argument I'm not really up for having
[10:06] <cjwatson> Laney: ~techboard
[10:06] <cjwatson> For primary archives, launchpad.Edit needs the distribution owner
[10:07] <Laney> OK, I'm not always sure how to map launchpad.Edit to a team, thanks
[10:07] <cjwatson> (Or in general ~admins, i.e. IS, can nearly always do stuff)
[10:07] <cjwatson> lp.security (or occasionally lp.<app>.security) defines those rules
[10:10] <Laney> mdeslaur: stgraber: ^- maybe one of you could help out with that step please so we can start processing SRUs for focal?
[10:11] <Laney> possibly that should be split in two and moved from NewReleaseCycleProcess to ReleaseProcess
[10:11] <Laney> although ideally we would clear out PREVIOUS-proposed before, I guess ...
[10:13] <rbasak> Laney: FWIW, Focal Unapproved has now appeared at https://trello.com/b/XgBxtrZ9/sru (another board driving by the same script).
[10:13] <rbasak> driven by
[10:15] <Laney> tjaalton: (In the meantime you could proxy your accepts through someone in ~ubuntu-archive)
[10:15] <Laney> rbasak: Nice one
[10:15] <Laney> I think the situation will probably be a little bit confusing for the SRU team until we've cleared the syncs out, at least
[10:16] <rbasak> Of course :)
[10:16] <rbasak> I didn't really expect to touch anything until the release team says so
[10:17] <Laney> There's a slightly elevated risk given that focal-proposed is still full of junk, but if you're careful enough I think you can do some SRU processing for higher-priority issues
[10:24] <tjaalton> only 15 packages
[10:25] <ricotz> please accept libreoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1874285
[10:26] <ricotz> it will also take care of an upgrade issue from bionic
[10:40] <Laney> tjaalton: actually I think I can still accept things into proposed if you want to give me a sign
[11:00] <tjaalton> Laney: update-manager is fine
[11:09] <mdeslaur> Laney: so, step 15 from the wiki?
[11:16] <mdeslaur> Laney: done.
[11:17] <tjaalton> mdeslaur: thanks, works :)
[11:17] <mdeslaur> cool :)
[11:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted update-manager [source] (focal-proposed) [1:20.04.10]
[11:21] <Laney> mdeslaur: thanks!
[11:23] <mdeslaur> yw!
[14:50] <xnox> popey:  https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/groovy-gorilla-release-schedule/15531 is "locked" with ACLs right? I think we are ok with comments, but people may not edit it. Similar to how the Release Tracking document was.
[14:56] <popey> Ya, the release category is "see" for everyone and "create / reply / see" for the release-team. Perhaps I should add "Canonical" as create/reply/see too?
[14:57] <popey> which seems reasonable
[15:00] <Laney> if it's possible to sync groups on Discourse with Launchpad groups I'd probably be OK with letting ~ubuntu-dev have edit rights there
[15:04] <popey> I do not think it can do that, might be a question for IS
[15:14]  * tumbleweed does the distro-info-data dance
[15:22] <Laney> ah
[15:22] <Laney> sil2100: ^^^^
[15:22] <Laney> don't you two collide
[15:28] <tumbleweed> if someone else is going to, I'll happily do dayjob work instead :)
[15:28] <tumbleweed> but I need to get the Debian side done, at least
[15:28] <Laney> It's probably OK, I just didn't want you two to duplicate each others work
[15:32] <sil2100> tumbleweed: if you want then feel free!
[15:33] <sil2100> I'll do debootstrap then
[15:33] <sil2100> tumbleweed: will you do the SRUs also? I can then review those
[15:34] <cjwatson> FWIW I committed the debootstrap change to Debian, though haven't particularly bothered to upload
[15:34] <cjwatson> we have an Ubuntu delta anyway so doesn't hurt to upload that
[15:35] <tumbleweed> People at work reporting upgrades to fossa aborting because of a snap store outage :(
[15:35] <tumbleweed> sil2100: +1
[15:36] <cjwatson> tumbleweed: yeah, store team is on it
[15:41] <sil2100> tumbleweed: thank you!
[15:41] <cjwatson> and I *think* all the LP bits of opening groovy are done
[15:41] <sil2100> tumbleweed: give me a sign if you have stuff uploaded ;)
[15:43] <xnox> sil2100:  https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu-cdimage/core20-beta-builds/+merge/382932
[15:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: base-files (focal-proposed/main) [11ubuntu5 => 11ubuntu6] (core, i386-whitelist)
[15:46] <sil2100> xnox: thanks!
[15:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected base-files [source] (focal-proposed) [11ubuntu6]
[15:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: base-files (groovy-proposed/main) [11ubuntu5 => 11ubuntu6] (core, i386-whitelist)
[15:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected base-files [source] (groovy-proposed) [11ubuntu6]
[15:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: base-files (groovy-proposed/main) [11ubuntu5 => 11ubuntu6] (core, i386-whitelist)
[15:53] <Laney> mdeslaur: are you up for running another ACL command for us please? we need queue admin for ubuntu-release in groovy now, which I think is: for pocket in proposed updates; do edit-acl -p ubuntu-sru -S groovy --pocket $pocket -t admin remove; edit-acl -p ubuntu-release -S groovy --pocket $pocket -t admin add; done
[15:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted base-files [source] (groovy-proposed) [11ubuntu6]
[15:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (focal-proposed/main) [0.43ubuntu1 => 0.43ubuntu1.1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[15:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (groovy-proposed/main) [0.43ubuntu1 => 0.44ubuntu1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[15:58] <mdeslaur> Laney: sure, one sec
[15:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted vaultlocker [source] (bionic-backports) [1.0.6-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>~ubuntu18.04.1]
[16:01] <mdeslaur> Laney: done.
[16:01] <Laney> mdeslaur: nice, thanks again
[16:01] <mdeslaur> np
[16:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openjdk-15 (groovy-proposed/universe) [15~19-1ubuntu2 => 15~19-1ubuntu2] (i386-whitelist) (sync)
[16:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (eoan-proposed/main) [0.40ubuntu3 => 0.40ubuntu4] (core)
[16:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected openjdk-15 [sync] (groovy-proposed) [15~19-1ubuntu2]
[16:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (bionic-proposed/main) [0.37ubuntu0.6 => 0.37ubuntu0.7] (core)
[16:09] <tumbleweed> sil2100: ^^ all uploaded groovy back to xenial
[16:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (xenial-proposed/main) [0.28ubuntu0.13 => 0.28ubuntu0.14] (core)
[16:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (groovy-proposed) [0.44ubuntu1]
[16:10] <tumbleweed> actually, I'll do the two ESMs too...
[16:16] <tumbleweed> err one ESM
[16:16] <sil2100> tumbleweed: sweet! Ok, reviewing the SRU ones now
[16:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (focal-proposed) [0.43ubuntu1.1]
[16:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (eoan-proposed) [0.40ubuntu4]
[16:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.37ubuntu0.7]
[16:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.28ubuntu0.14]
[16:24] <bdmurray> popey / wimpress: Do you know if there is a way to get notifications about changes to a post like the Groovy release schedule?
[16:26] <popey> i get notifications from it actually. dunno why
[16:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openmpi (groovy-proposed/universe) [4.0.3-0ubuntu1 => 4.0.3-6ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu) (sync)
[16:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected openmpi [sync] (focal-proposed) [4.0.3-6ubuntu1]
[16:29] <Laney> https://meta.discourse.org/t/wiki-notifications/86680 this says to me that there's a way, but it's not v. clear what that way is
[16:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: golang-defaults (groovy-proposed/main) [2:1.13~1ubuntu2 => 2:1.14~1] (ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[16:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox [sync] (focal-proposed) [6.1.6-dfsg-2]
[16:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox (groovy-release/multiverse) [6.1.6-dfsg-1 => 6.1.6-dfsg-2] (ubuntu-cloud) (sync)
[16:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected golang-google-grpc [sync] (focal-proposed) [1.27.1-1]
[16:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: golang-google-grpc (groovy-release/universe) [1.22.1-1ubuntu1 => 1.27.1-1] (ubuntu-mate) (sync)
[16:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected weechat-scripts [sync] (focal-proposed) [20200421-1]
[16:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: weechat-scripts (groovy-release/universe) [20191009-1 => 20200421-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[17:09] <Laney> vorlon: or someone else on the TB: Please could you mark focal release as dirty? We changed the set of signing keys and I want it to re-publish with those.
[17:09] <Laney> URGH
[17:09] <Laney> NOT FOCAL
[17:09] <Laney> groovy
[17:10] <Laney> This is the same as me writing '2019' for all of January 2020
[17:11] <cjwatson> "mark-suite-dirty -s groovy" should do it (possibly switching it to python3 in the process, which should work although I can't currently test it ...)
[17:12] <cjwatson> in fact I'm just going to commit a #! change, it looks fine
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debootstrap (groovy-proposed/main) [1.0.118ubuntu1 => 1.0.123ubuntu1] (core)
[17:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Netboot amd64 [Groovy Daily] (20101020ubuntu614) has been added
[17:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Netboot arm64 [Groovy Daily] (20101020ubuntu614) has been added
[17:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Netboot armhf [Groovy Daily] (20101020ubuntu614) has been added
[17:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Netboot i386 [Groovy Daily] (20101020ubuntu614) has been added
[17:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Netboot ppc64el [Groovy Daily] (20101020ubuntu614) has been added
[17:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Netboot s390x [Groovy Daily] (20101020ubuntu614) has been added
[17:31] <vorlon> Laney: changed the set of signing keys> archive signing keys?
[17:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-9 (groovy-proposed/main) [9.3.0-10ubuntu2 => 9.3.0-11ubuntu1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[17:31] <vorlon> Laney, cjwatson: command run
[17:36] <tsimonq2> I call dibs on creating the new wiki page for Groovy.
[17:37]  * tsimonq2 runs through my personal new-release checklist (well, Lubuntu's, but...): https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/new-release/browse/master/README.md
[17:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: devscripts (focal-proposed/main) [2.20.2ubuntu2 => 2.20.2ubuntu3] (core, i386-whitelist)
[17:37] <ddstreet> Groovy Gorilla, sounds fun
[17:38] <tsimonq2> Indeed.
[17:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected devscripts [source] (focal-proposed) [2.20.2ubuntu3]
[17:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: devscripts (groovy-proposed/main) [2.20.2ubuntu2 => 2.20.2ubuntu3] (core, i386-whitelist)
[17:41] <tsimonq2> I can take care of Lintian unless someone else is already on that.
[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debootstrap [source] (groovy-proposed) [1.0.123ubuntu1]
[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-9 [source] (groovy-proposed) [9.3.0-11ubuntu1]
[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted devscripts [source] (groovy-proposed) [2.20.2ubuntu3]
[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted golang-defaults [sync] (groovy-proposed) [2:1.14~1]
[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: network-manager (bionic-proposed/main) [1.10.6-2ubuntu1.4 => 1.10.6-2ubuntu1.5] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[17:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: network-manager (eoan-proposed/main) [1.20.4-2ubuntu2.2 => 1.20.4-2ubuntu2.3] (desktop-core)
[17:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: network-manager (focal-proposed/main) [1.22.10-1ubuntu1 => 1.22.10-1ubuntu2] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[17:46] <tsimonq2> https://salsa.debian.org/lintian/lintian/-/merge_requests/304
[17:50] <vorlon> sil2100, Laney, bdmurray: archive opening checklist says to create a 'feature-freeze' milestone but we haven't done that in recent past (or possibly ever) and no one has complained.  Unless one of you objects, I'm going to remove it from the checklist
[17:52] <bdmurray> vorlon: it might be useful if we were to look at milestones for trello card due dates
[17:53] <vorlon> bdmurray: is that an objection, then?
[17:54] <bdmurray> vorlon: its a conceptual one not a strenuous one. ;-)
[17:59] <vorlon> fyi I'm cleaning up priority mismatches now for groovy... so we'll find out whether that in fact breaks anything
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debootstrap (bionic-proposed/main) [1.0.95ubuntu0.5 => 1.0.95ubuntu0.6] (core)
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debootstrap (focal-proposed/main) [1.0.118ubuntu1 => 1.0.118ubuntu1.1] (core)
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debootstrap (eoan-proposed/main) [1.0.116ubuntu1.1 => 1.0.116ubuntu1.2] (core)
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debootstrap (xenial-proposed/main) [1.0.78+nmu1ubuntu1.10 => 1.0.78+nmu1ubuntu1.11] (core)
[18:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debootstrap [source] (focal-proposed) [1.0.118ubuntu1.1]
[18:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debootstrap [source] (eoan-proposed) [1.0.116ubuntu1.2]
[18:20] <Laney> vorlon: ISTR that some teams wanted to use that to track their work items
[18:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debootstrap [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.0.95ubuntu0.6]
[18:21] <Laney> but maybe it never got used, so no particular objection
[18:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debootstrap [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.0.78+nmu1ubuntu1.11]
[18:23] <sil2100> vorlon: hey!
[18:24] <sil2100> vorlon: can you do the branch-livefses task? Since I suppose only buildd-admins can do that one
[18:24] <sil2100> I ran the script but it failed at one point
[18:25] <sil2100> (I don't have the powers to set relative_build_score it seems)
[18:29] <sil2100> wgrant: hey! So regarding ceph in focal-proposed, I assume it's something you'd like to have in -updates?
[19:41] <vorlon> sil2100: I will take a look at it; currently I'm looking at why proposed-migration doesn't seem to be getting anywhere on snakefruit
[19:42] <vorlon> ah because I fixed the p-m run but the archive hasn't changed so archive-reports is skipping.  Easy enough to work around
[19:43] <vorlon> ... and someone cowboyed an 'exit 0' into the middle of the run-proposed-migration script? pretty sure that's not in the archive opening checklist
[19:44] <vorlon> anyway, running now
[19:45] <vorlon> sil2100: branch-livefses not updated yet to python3?
[19:45]  * vorlon pushes
[19:46] <sil2100> vorlon: sadly! I think both branch-* scripts are 2.7 still
[19:46] <sil2100> Thank you!
[19:46] <vorlon> branch-livefses running now
[19:47] <vorlon> sil2100: error because https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/groovy/buildd already exists; deleting, trying again
[19:49] <vorlon> sil2100: how many of these got created when you ran it?
[19:51] <vorlon> sil2100: in fact, I'm unable to set require_virtualized
[19:51] <vorlon> sil2100: so it fails for me anyway
[20:01] <Laney> vorlon: I'd have preferred it if you didn't remove that, was waiting for autopkgtest to be ready
[20:02] <Laney> I could have been less violent though
[20:06] <Laney> it's checking for test results that might not be there now
[20:12] <Laney> in fact I'd better kill this; if something falsely gets an ALWAYSFAIL now it could be promoted and I don't even
[20:15] <Laney> hopefully nobbled so it doesn't run for groovy only
[20:18] <cjwatson> so I can probably do branch-livefses since I'm in launchpad-buildd-admins
[20:18] <cjwatson> shall I do that now?
[20:19] <cjwatson> (and also in ~ubuntu-cdimage)
[20:19] <cjwatson> actually this is surprising, since vorlon is also in ~launchpad-buildd-admins
[20:20] <cjwatson> oh, right, it needs ~launchpad-ppa-self-admins or ~launchpad-ppa-admins
[20:20] <cjwatson> but I can do it if that's OK
[20:21] <cjwatson> Laney,vorlon: ^-
[20:21] <Laney> cjwatson: I think that'd be fine
[20:21] <vorlon> cjwatson: well I'm patching the script so that it can do something reasonable on already-existing livefs builds; testing now and then I can push if you want to use it
[20:22] <cjwatson> sure, tell me when
[20:22] <vorlon> cjwatson: pushed
[20:24] <cjwatson> vorlon: have you created the livefses, just not devirted them etc., then?
[20:24] <vorlon> cjwatson: sil2100 created them
[20:24] <cjwatson> vorlon: (that would be helpful since I'm not in ~cloud-images-release-managers)
[20:24] <vorlon> oh I can go create those
[20:24] <vorlon> I stopped at ubuntu-cdimage so far
[20:25] <cjwatson> Yeah if you could do all three that'd be perfect, and then I can power them up
[20:25] <vorlon> ok
[20:29] <vorlon>     if [ "$SERIES" = focal ] -o [ "$SERIES" = groovy ]; then
[20:29] <vorlon> >_<
[20:30] <cjwatson> Where's that?
[20:30] <vorlon> in britney
[20:31] <vorlon> fixed now :)
[20:31] <cjwatson> Yeah that's not ideal :)
[20:35] <vorlon> doko, Laney: which of you is cowboying the changes to run-proposed-migration?
[20:35] <vorlon> I have no idea what "proposed-migration is still seeding" is supposed to mean
[20:43] <cjwatson> vorlon: (ideally soon - it's 21:43 local and I don't want to stick around much longer)
[20:44] <vorlon> ah sorry, hit more errors again
[20:57] <vorlon> cjwatson: ok cloud-image-release-managers and cloudware are done, ubuntu-cdimage is still working through the list
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[21:03] <vorlon> cjwatson: ubuntu-cdimage livefses created. and the script is now more happily idempotent
[21:04] <cjwatson> vorlon: OK, preferred invocation?
[21:04] <cjwatson> (I mean, I only wrote this script, can't be expected to remember it ...)
[21:04] <vorlon> cjwatson: for owner in cloudware ubuntu-cdimage cloud-images-release-managers; do ./branch-livefses --source-series=focal --dest-series=groovy $owner; done
[21:05] <vorlon> :)
[21:05] <vorlon> now afk for a spell
[21:05] <cjwatson> running
[21:07] <cjwatson> Seems to be doing reasonable things
[21:16] <Laney> vorlon: It's me, I highlighted you and updated this channel to say I was doing it
[21:42] <cjwatson> vorlon: should all be done now
[22:13] <vorlon> Laney: ah sorry, missed that
[22:15] <Laney> np
[22:15] <Laney> the sync just finished
[22:15] <Laney> so I need to do download-results on the web node now
[22:17] <Laney> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/gzip this is getting silly, we need to do some purging
[22:18] <vorlon> Laney: so I guess we should record the dependency as well for the future, to wait for autopkgtest stuff to finish before doing the p-m bits?
[22:19] <Laney> vorlon: Sounds sensible, yeah
[22:19] <Laney> I think results are downloaded now
[22:19]  * Laney pushes config changes
[22:21] <Laney> there's still some cowboys for i386 testing which I will update but should be committed
[22:26] <wgrant> sil2100: ceph> yeah, though I guess that means it needs an SRU bug etc. now
[22:30] <Laney> think I might finish off the rest of the autopkgtest enablement/proposed-migration tomorrow
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[00:00] <jbicha> what about mawk? it's a dependency of ubuntu-minimal
[00:00] <darkxst> no mawk was not installed
[00:00] <jbicha> you don't have ubuntu-minimal?
[00:04] <darkxst> I must have, otherwise system would be completely broken
[00:10] <darkxst> hmm just tried again, and it got it this time
[13:28] <smartboyhw> hi jbicha
[13:37] <jbicha> smartboyhw: howdy
[13:37] <smartboyhw> jbicha: Beta coming in 4 days for UGR?
[13:45] <jbicha> um yeah, something like that
[13:45] <smartboyhw> :)
[22:06] <darkxst> jbicha, I see you found Bug 1007123 (I just marked all those dupes)
[22:06] <darkxst> what is the correct thing to do here? it seems that prerm does not stop gdm (since it would kill the current Xsession, I believe)
[22:07] <darkxst> then postrm fails since it can't remove the user
[22:07] <darkxst> ^gdm user
[22:07] <darkxst> can you defer postrm somehow?
[22:09] <jbicha> yeah, I'm subscribed to gdm bugs so I get friendly emails when bugs are touched :)
[22:10] <jbicha> actually uninstalling gdm does kill gdm which I think is rather rude as it can cause you to lose data if you weren't expecting it
[22:11] <jbicha> I think Debian manages to have gdm uninstall without errors, otherwise it would be an RC bug there so it's probably worth comparing the Debian packaging with Ubuntu's
[23:10] <darkxst> well the prerm and postrm files are more or less identical


[06:32] <mup> Bug #2031842 changed: 3.4-next hits more race conditions than 3.3 - The MAAS server gave an unexpected response: 502 <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2031842>