[03:54] <durt> blanky find an option and choose not to display the window contents when moving (im in xfce, so i dont know about gnome)
[03:54] <eternalist> while true; do ./dont.sh | sudo nc -v -l -p 23; done   <-  i want that line to start everytime i boot up
[03:54] <dooglus> eternalist: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[03:55] <Comrade_Vladimir> does anyone one know why my audio files say You have the correct output plugin selected. when i try to open them
[03:55] <intelikey> eternalist /etc/inittab tells init what script to run first.
[03:55] <Hobbsee> dooglus: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade?
[03:55] <blanky> durt: but it's not that my pc is slow, it's frickin fast (vid card, proc, mem, etc.), it's something else I bet
[03:55] <dooglus> eternalist: save some bytes: "while :" instead of "while true"
[03:55] <eternalist> while alone works?
[03:55] <ljl> argh
[03:55] <dooglus> Hobbsee: it came with no network sources enabled
[03:56] <ljl> for(;;);
[03:56] <Hobbsee> !tell dooglus about repos
[03:56] <intelikey> eternalist the scripts in /etc/rcS.d/ run each boot up
[03:56] <dooglus> !sources.list
[03:56] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:56] <durt> eternalist: you can make your own script (/etc/init.d/script.sh), then run update-rc.d script.sh defaults
[03:57] <odyssey> !tell odyssey about ubuntu
[03:57] <durt> blanky, no ubuntu is just slow - i have half a gig of ram and its still pretty unresponsive
[03:58] <eternalist> durt, the problem is it requires me to be root
[03:58] <MAX> need help
[03:58] <MAX> please
[03:58] <durt> eternalist, what does?
[03:58] <eternalist> durt, so if i put sudo, itll prompt me for a password during boot up or what?
[03:58] <Comrade_Vladimir> but they dont platy
[03:58] <eternalist> durt, to run nc on port 23
[03:58] <blanky> that sucks that ubuntu is slow, and I thought it was fast
[03:58] <Agrajag> eternalist: init scripts run as root
[03:58] <eternalist> Agrajag, oh thanks
[03:58] <MAX> like... my processor is socket 775 that means he is a 64bits processor
[03:58] <durt> eternalist, it will be run as root, you dont need any sudos in the script
[03:58] <intelikey> eternalist the startup scripts run as root.
[03:59] <MAX> but to ubuntu only have intel x86
[03:59] <durt> oops too late
[03:59] <varsendagger> hey i changed my modprobe and now my sound won't work for something else
[03:59] <Comrade_Vladimir> actually it sayst:1. You have the correct output plugin selected. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly.
[03:59] <Madpilot> MAX: there's an AMD64 version of Ubuntu - the 32bit version will run too
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> MAX, you downloaded the 64 bit ubuntu install cd right ?
[03:59] <Comrade_Vladimir> please check that...
[04:00] <Madpilot> blanky: Ubuntu is faster on this machine than XP ever was (AMD 2500+ CPU, 1Gb RAM...)
[04:00] <cin_> I downloaded Icon themes from Gnomelook.com how do I use them? I just downloaded them and a window opened displaying the file.
[04:00] <MAX> no i have an INTEL processor
[04:00] <eternalist> How would i go about removing it, is there a method just like the update-rc.d command?
[04:00] <eternalist> just delete it and do update-rc.d?
[04:00] <Madpilot> MAX: intel 64? Itanitum?
[04:00] <MAX> socket 775. but to intel ubuntu only gots intelx86
[04:00] <Agrajag> MAX: it's the same thing
[04:00] <dooglus> Hobbsee: I think I see what happened...  I use an encrypted WPA wireless access point.  The installer didn't know the WPA key, so it thought I had no network access.  As a result it probably decided not to set me up to receive security updates!  Seems dangerous to me!  :)
[04:01] <Agrajag> the x86-64 CD is for AMD Athlon 64 or Intel Pentoium 4 with EMT64
[04:01] <Agrajag> er, Pentium
[04:01] <MAX> hmm
[04:01] <Agrajag> but the 32-bit x86 CD will also work
[04:01] <Madpilot> MAX: if it's a 32bit system, the x86 Ubuntu should run on it
[04:01] <Comrade_Vladimir> i figure its just not having the win32 codecs in right... but thats just me
[04:01] <Agrajag> and will be less of a pain to set up for some things
[04:01] <intelikey> eternalist you can edit the script as needed without any other command but yes delete the script and update
[04:01] <MAX> hmm
[04:01] <dooglus> !w32codecs
[04:01] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[04:01] <MAX> i can't install linux
[04:02] <MAX> and a frind of mine told me that's the reason
[04:02] <cin_> Does anyone know how I can make my own GNOME themes? Or download premade themes, with a tutorial on how to use them.
[04:02] <durt> eternalist: update-rc.d script.sh remove
[04:02] <dooglus> !libcss2
[04:02] <ubotu> No idea, dooglus
[04:02] <dooglus> !dvd
[04:02] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:02] <MAX> because i had install it but i can't get linux in graphic way
[04:03] <eternalist> Thank you everyone, i appreciate it
[04:03] <eternalist> :)
[04:03] <dooglus> doh.  what's the name of the package which installs the DVD decrpyer hingy?
[04:03] <Comrade_Vladimir> dooglus u know of win32
[04:03] <eternalist> definitly friendlier than the debian group
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> MAX, there is live cd ...
[04:03] <dooglus> Comrade_Vladimir: I am aware of it.
[04:03] <Hobbsee> dooglus: yeah, just a bit!
[04:03] <atrophic> yay, my ubuntu cds came in the mail today and I've already given away 5/15
[04:03] <sethk> eternalist, a cemetary is friendlier than the debian group
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> MAX, i got a friend who says i can't use windows cause it will make you stupid
[04:03] <Comrade_Vladimir> dooglus so do u know what my problem is
[04:04] <dooglus> there's a kernel update for breezy already?  what was that for?
[04:04] <MAX> wickedpuppy lol it's true
[04:04] <MAX> lol
[04:04] <dooglus> Comrade_Vladimir: I didn't see yourproblem, no.
[04:04] <dooglus> Comrade_Vladimir: my problem is that my spacebar sucks
[04:04] <Hobbsee_away> dooglus: ubuntuforums.org - it has an annoucement under "announcements"
[04:05] <intelikey> !codecs
[04:05] <ubotu> somebody said codecs was binary only codecs that some call evil. You can get them by going to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, and looking for "The Codecs". Another possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[04:05] <Comrade_Vladimir> dooglus it says  lease check that:1. You have the correct output plugin selected.2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly.
[04:05] <Comrade_Vladimir> when i get on
[04:05] <sig> anyone know of a program that I can make a slide show on cd/dvd and add music with in linux?
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> MAX, try the live cd and come back if it screws up .. btw you aren't the first one to run linux on 64 bit intel ... intel probably did it first
[04:05] <Comrade_Vladimir> to a mp3 file
[04:08] <dooglus> Hobbsee_away: did you read that list of kernel holes?  puts Windows to shame! ;)
[04:08] <odyssey> hi, how can i hide desktop icons such as the trash can etc
[04:08] <ubuntu_newbie> i am trying to instal ubuntu, but my cd is corrupted :-( the live cd works fine. Is there anyway i can instal ubuntu from live cd?
[04:08] <dooglus> odyssey: I stopped nautilus running altogether.  that got rid of the desktop icons and freed up a bunch of memory.  It's in the session editor.
[04:08] <TokenBad> how uncompress b25 files?
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu_newbie, what prevents you from redownloading or reburning it again ?
[04:09] <dooglus> ubuntu_newbie: I don't think so.
[04:09] <TokenBad> bz5
[04:09] <TokenBad> even
[04:09] <dooglus> TokenBad: bunzip2
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> TokenBad, bz2 ...
[04:09] <ubuntu_newbie> i dont have a cd burner here... and the internet connection is slow
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu_newbie, then how you got it ?
[04:09] <odyssey> dooglus, thanks
[04:09] <ubuntu_newbie> i am on a holiday now and brought these cd's with me
[04:09] <TokenBad> get that with apt or download it?
[04:10] <dooglus> why is this happened when I go to upgrade?  The following packages have been kept back:
[04:10] <Comrade_Vladimir> aomeone run me through win32 codecs
[04:10] <dooglus>   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu_newbie, then have a nice holiday!!! forget about linux or windows ...
[04:10] <ubuntu_newbie> :(
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> TokenBad, its in apt-get .. of course
[04:10] <TokenBad> hmm
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> no need to ask just do it
[04:10] <TokenBad> just tried apt-get install bunzip2
[04:10] <ubuntu_newbie> i use windows at work... wanted to try linux ...
[04:10] <Agrajag> bzip2
[04:11] <intelikey> i wish some would tell me how to make this thing stop resetting the kbdrate  every two minutes........
[04:11] <TokenBad> ok says already have it installed
[04:11] <ubuntu_newbie> i installed debian... but dont know how to work with it.... i go until the command prompt :(
[04:11] <Agrajag> then you should already have bunzip2
[04:11] <fredforfaen> is there a way to get the install cd to install the i686 kernel ?
[04:11] <che_wicked> elo
[04:11] <che_wicked> guys need help
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu_newbie, really ... you expect to be running linux full speed just as much as windows after a few days of usage ?
[04:12] <dooglus> to answer my own question:  I needed to "apt-get dist-upgrade" not just "apt-get upgrade"
[04:12] <ubuntu_newbie> wickedpuppy, i just want linux running.... no question of speed.
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> fredforfaen, i don't think it comes with multiple kernels
[04:12] <dooglus> TokenBad: bunzip2 doesn't start with bz, unlike the other bz2 programs
[04:12] <Comrade_Vladimir> its a pain in the ass
[04:12] <ubuntu_newbie> in fact i am running ubuntu on live cd...
[04:12] <fredforfaen> wickedpuppy hmm
[04:12] <ubuntu_newbie> but want to instal it
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu_newbie, speed as in your speed ... not the speed of the com ...
[04:13] <dooglus> fredforfaen: I don't think so.  you can insall it after.
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu_newbie, if you just want it running ... live cd
[04:13] <intelikey> ubuntu_newbie being brand new to the linux world, no you probably can not install from the live cd without lots of help.    but if you were an old had at linux i'd say just make a ext3 partition and cp all the files over then reboot and dpkg-setup  or something like would work......
[04:13] <Cartesian1984> i would like to get a bigger usb drive and install ubuntu on it, think thats possible?
[04:13] <intelikey> had/hand
[04:13] <dooglus> intelikey: I don't think the live cd has enough packages on it, does it?
[04:13] <durt> how would i go about turning the free space on my root partition (/dev/hda1) into another partion on which i can install another os?
[04:13] <ubuntu_newbie> oh ok...
[04:14] <Comrade_Vladimir> so whats holdin this back    when i try to load an mp3 file it opens bmp and says Please check that:1. You have the correct output plugin selected.2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly. in a error message
[04:14] <intelikey> dooglus all you need is a linux console and the dpkg package manager isn't it.....
[04:14] <Scythe> what is the current version of the latest mozilla release?
[04:15] <dooglus> durt: 1) boot from cd, so root partition isn't mounted; 2) resize root filesystem 3) use dpkg to resize root filesystem's partition 4) make new partition with fdisk
[04:15] <intelikey> from there you can wget anything else you need even on a slowdem
[04:15] <dooglus> 5) makenew filesystem in new partition with mkfs or some such
[04:15] <chasmarang> In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount my c: drive
[04:15] <dooglus> intelikey: I guess so.
[04:15] <dooglus> intelikey: debbootstrap would be handy though.
[04:16] <intelikey> yeah well it is probably on the live
[04:16] <intelikey> i havent checked
[04:16] <durt> thanks dooglus
[04:16] <intelikey> i've only booted the live like 2/3 times
[04:16] <PorcupineTree> dosbox is neat
[04:16] <PorcupineTree> I am installing simcity 2000 as a test
[04:17] <Comrade_Vladimir> so whats holdin this back    when i try to load an mp3 file it opens bmp and says Please check that:1. You have the correct output plugin selected.2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly. in a error message
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> Comrade_Vladimir, you installed the codecs .. of course ?
[04:18] <intelikey> if i could get this box to stop reseting the kbdrate every two minutes i would probably install ub again,  that is the reason i ditched it last time.     mmmmm and the time before i think.....
[04:18] <dooglus> Comrade_Vladimir:
[04:18] <Comrade_Vladimir> wickedpuppy yea i dont think theyre workin
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> Comrade_Vladimir, if you installed the right ones they are ... i am listening to westlife atm
[04:18] <nuck> anyone using ubuntu 5.10?
[04:18] <che_wicked> guys why i cant log in to my desktop
[04:18] <Comrade_Vladimir> i tried to reilstallthem in synaptic and it dissapeered
[04:18] <nuck> i need to ask some question re: 5.10
[04:19] <PorcupineTree> anyone here use GMX?
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> nuck, pls stop asking if people using 5.10 ... assumed we are
[04:19] <Comrade_Vladimir> they told me id have better luck here
[04:19] <nuck> i find some of the packages are missing in the install disk as compared to the install disk of 5.04
[04:19] <nuck> like emacs
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> nuck, then use apt-get to get them .. i am sure people told ya already ... sudo apt-get install emacs21
[04:20] <_jason> nuck, emacs21 is the name of the package for emacs, enable universe/multiverse repos
[04:20] <dooglus> or xemacs
[04:20] <Comrade_Vladimir> i did it through the inter net according to _jason
[04:20] <nuck> wickedpuppy is there a way to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 without wiping all that have been installed previously including thrid-party apps?
[04:20] <che_wicked> anyone knows these errors
[04:20] <che_wicked> ~/.xsession-errors file
[04:20] <Comrade_Vladimir> who is currently offline
[04:20] <NoUse> !tell nuck about breezy
[04:20] <nuck> _jason yes its not there at all
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> nuck, dist-upgrade will upgrade the apps
[04:21] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, has a problem with esd, even though he has it set to start up a ps aux | grep esd returns nothing.  Maybe someone can help him.
[04:21] <NoUse> nuck, emacs is in the repos use apt-get or synaptic
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> nuck,
[04:21] <_jason> !info emacs21
[04:21] <ubotu> emacs21: (The GNU Emacs editor), section editors, is optional.   Does anyone know how to change the font of a "FontWork" graphic in OpenOffice?
[04:22] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, what do you mean?
[04:22] <che_wicked> how to fix ~/.xsession-errors file?
[04:22] <nuck> will the dist-upgrade command not muck up all non-standard apps i have installed? thanks
[04:22] <Comrade_Vladimir> oh nevermind
[04:22] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, oh i was away and didn't notice :D
[04:22] <NoUse> nuck, did you read the link ubotu sent you? it shows how to upgrade to breezy
[04:22] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok so refer me away!
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> nuck, if non-standard apps depends on particular lib .. then they might ...
[04:23] <che_wicked> how to fix ~/.xsession-errors file?
[04:23] <intelikey> NoUse are you reading nuck's question ?
[04:23] <NoUse> intelikey, yeah I helped him earlier
[04:23] <Comrade_Vladimir> so who knows about esd
[04:23] <nuck> no worries i'll try out the things you've suggested thanks
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> yah i thought the case was closed ...
[04:24] <chasmarang> In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount my c: drive
[04:24] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, try: dpkg-reconfigure esound
[04:25] <ficusplanet> Hey.  Does anyone know how to change the font of a "FontWork" graphic in OpenOffice?
[04:25] <unixx> does anybody know how i can dual boot xp and ubuntu?
[04:25] <God> yeah
[04:25] <God> When you install them it gives you the option
[04:25] <Comrade_Vladimir> root@ubuntu:/home/andrew # dpkg-reconfigure esound
[04:25] <Comrade_Vladimir> root@ubuntu:/home/andrew #
[04:25] <_jason> ubotu, tell unixx about dualboot
[04:25] <God> Like I had XP before and when I installed Ubuntu it asked if I wanted to dual boot
[04:25] <Comrade_Vladimir> nothin
[04:26] <Comrade_Vladimir> had to be in root too
[04:26] <unixx> ok so i have xp installed first, then do i click on manually edit the partition table?
[04:26] <chasmarang> God: In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount my c: drive
[04:26] <TokenBad> hmm
[04:26] <jayson_I> what's up dude!
[04:26] <TokenBad> I installed java on my system..but when go to site that uses java..it not load
[04:26] <Comrade_Vladimir> hey now i cant say oh my god anymore
[04:26] <God> chasmarang, Mine was mounted when I booted Ubuntu for the first time.
[04:26] <unixx> lol
[04:27] <jayson_I> i've receive already the ubuntu CD i ordered. :)
[04:27] <bimberi> chasmarang: is it a windows drive?
[04:27] <TokenBad> any idea why?
[04:27] <dooglus> when I play movies, they are incredibly jumpy.  if I switch to OSS instead of ALSA, they're OK.  is it possible to get ALSA to work?
[04:27] <God> chasmarang, You could try mounting hda or hda1, hda2, etc.
[04:27] <dooglus> mplayer says stuff like "alsa-space: xrun of at least 0.105 msecs. resetting stream3.1% 7 0 7%" over and over
[04:27] <jayson_I> i already distribute it to my friends they luv to use ubuntu.
[04:27] <TokenBad> I got my cd's yesterday
[04:27] <chasmarang> In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount my c: drive
[04:27] <Phoul> Is there anyway to get E17 for ubuntu?
[04:28] <TokenBad> going to put them in my docs office and a couple other offices next week
[04:28] <unixx> i got my cd's yesterday too, i installed breezy over hoary, and i gave my friends sum cd's too, get rid of windows
[04:28] <Comrade_Vladimir> _jason was that supposed to work
[04:28] <NoUse> !tell Phoul about e17
[04:28] <TokenBad> unixx, how many did you order?
[04:28] <Phoul> Uhh?
[04:28] <bimberi> chasmarang: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:28] <Comrade_Vladimir> cause it didnt
[04:28] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, did you run it with sudo? try restarting X
[04:28] <Phoul> Nouse
[04:28] <unixx> 50, 25 x86 cd;s and 25ppc cd;s
[04:28] <Phoul> Huh?
[04:28] <NoUse> Phoul, you have a message from ubotu with links to Howtos
[04:29] <TokenBad> cool
[04:29] <Phoul> yeah i know
[04:29] <Phoul> I just want to have the system
[04:29] <TokenBad> I did their default one for 55 cds
[04:29] <chasmarang> In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount any other drives
[04:29] <unixx> nice
[04:29] <TokenBad> 40 x86, 10 64 bit and 5 macs
[04:29] <unixx> ive been with ubuntu for along time now
[04:29] <unixx> i started with warty
[04:29] <unixx> kewlkewl
[04:29] <thompa-A> hi, how do i moun the windows partition?
[04:29] <thompa-A> mount
[04:29] <NoUse> Phoul, you said you wanted e17, those are links on how to get e17,
[04:29] <bimberi> thompa-A:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:30] <Phoul> Umm
[04:30] <Phoul> Okay
[04:30] <fredforfaen> !nvidia
[04:30] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:30] <thompa-A> thanks bimberi, i should go through the wiki some
[04:30] <TokenBad> I been with ubuntu for 6 months I think
[04:30] <TokenBad> thats about all
[04:30] <Cartesian1984> ok, i have this problem with grub. when trying to boot feather linux from a usb key, i get an error message "GRUB error 17"
[04:30] <bimberi> thompa-A: np :)
[04:30] <Comrade_Vladimir> _jason still the same
[04:30] <TokenBad> anyone tell me why after I installed java it not work..and this is after restarted mozzilla
[04:31] <chasmarang> In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount any other drives
[04:31] <unixx> i also use gentoo, alinux, mepis, slackeware, suse and mandriva
[04:31] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, how did you restart X without leaving xchat!
[04:31] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, or are you on a diff computer?
[04:31] <TokenBad> cool...i tried fedora, gentoo and a couple others
[04:31] <Comrade_Vladimir> oh no
[04:31] <ubuntu> How do I go about mounting  drive?
[04:31] <TokenBad> but like ubuntu best so far
[04:31] <dooglus> !flash
[04:31] <ubotu> methinks flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:31] <TokenBad> and their tech support is by far the best
[04:31] <unixx> ubuntu has way more junk in its reps
[04:32] <_jason> comrade, ctrl+alt+backspace will restart X for you (save anything you are working on)
[04:32] <chasmarang> TokenBad: In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount any other drives
[04:32] <unixx> and free pressed cd's, thats the best part
[04:32] <dooglus> is there a page that talks me through all the stuff you usually set up after installing breezy?  flash, java vm, mp3, dvd, etc?
[04:32] <dooglus> w32codecs, etc.
[04:32] <TokenBad> the wiki page does
[04:32] <_jason> ubotu, tell dooglus about faq
[04:33] <TokenBad> at least that is what I used
[04:33] <che_wicked> how to fix ~/.xsession-errors file?
[04:33] <TokenBad> but I still don't know why java isn't working
[04:33] <Hobbsee_away> dooglus: i did indeed see the kernal holes - didnt make that much sense to me though
[04:33] <eternalist> how do i stop this one process from going, i keep killingit but it keeps coming back.
[04:34] <sethk> eternalist, usually that's because there is an auto-restart in one of the init files
[04:34] <eternalist> yes buti removed it.
[04:34] <dooglus> Hobbsee: I didn't have a good look, but that's a lot of holes!
[04:34] <sethk> eternalist, must appear in more than one level
[04:34] <Hobbsee> lol
[04:34] <eternalist> i used rc-update remove..
[04:34] <Madpilot> I've got an old harddrive that I want to eventually reformat w/ ext3, but first I want to mount it and check what's left in it - I can't remember if it's NTFS or FAT32, though. How can I get that information?
[04:34] <NoUse> Madpilot, is it in the computer?
[04:34] <unixx> right click properties?
[04:34] <sethk> Madpilot, try to mount it.  if it is ntfs, you'll mount it as ntfs, and the same for fat32
[04:34] <eternalist> sethk, how do i stop it.
[04:35] <sethk> eternalist, if it really is in an init file, you have to find that file and remove it (or move to another init level)
[04:35] <chasmarang> Hobbsee: In System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs: Is there anything I can do to mount any other drives
[04:35] <sethk> eternalist, you can do init 1 to stop it for the moment
[04:35] <sethk> Madpilot, or what unixx said if it is physically in the box
[04:35] <Madpilot> NoUse: yeah, it's seen as hdd. sethk, I thought mount needed to know which format it was dealing with before it would mount the thing?
[04:35] <Hobbsee> chasmarang: edit your /etc/fstab?
[04:35] <bimberi> Madpilot: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdX
[04:36] <sethk> Madpilot, the mount will fail if you give it the wrong type
[04:36] <jayson_I> how to make our own language?
[04:36] <sethk> Madpilot, and it will succeed when you give it the right one
[04:36] <chasmarang> oh good is there any certain commands
[04:36] <jayson_I> i'm planning to build our own language.
[04:36] <Hobbsee> !tell chasmarang about mount
[04:36] <Madpilot> sethk: OK, trial and error it is. Thanks, all
[04:36] <Hobbsee> chasmarang: check your pm from ubotu
[04:36] <basheer> hello all
[04:36] <sethk> Madpilot, only two choices, so it won't take long  :)
[04:37] <sethk> Madpilot, you can, actually, use type=auto and mount will frequently but not always figure out what it is
[04:37] <unixx> is there such thing as disk defragmenter for linux?
[04:37] <chasmarang> no I mean like can I leave out sudo
[04:37] <basheer> can anyone see me type?
[04:37] <NoUse> unixx, you don't need one
[04:37] <ganoosh> should a swap partition be primary or logical?
[04:37] <bimberi> basheer: no
[04:37] <Madpilot> sethk: good to know - off to review man mount, then
[04:37] <chasmarang> and just say mount /dev/hda1 /win/c
[04:37] <unixx> ok
[04:37] <bimberi> basheer: :)
[04:37] <sethk> ganoosh, it really should be primary, but the installer seems to like to make it logical
[04:37] <unixx> basheer i see u
[04:37] <sethk> ganoosh, it makes the installer program logic less complicated, but it's not the optimal solution
[04:38] <dooglus> I just asked to install "build-essential".  It told me it needed to get "0 bytes", and that after install, 41Mb extra would be used.  Why did it have to get 0 bytes?  the packages weren't installed already.
[04:38] <basheer> are pms in red?
[04:38] <sethk> ganoosh, although the difference is probably minute
[04:38] <ganoosh> the only way i can get a main and swap is to have both logical how can i make the main partition prinary
[04:38] <Hobbsee> chasmarang: yes, you can, but you'll probably need mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[04:38] <bimberi> basheer: no, only if your nick is used
[04:38] <basheer> ok
[04:38] <intelikey> yep type=auto fails on floppies with ext2 though cause it sees the msdos sig. and stops looking....
[04:38] <chasmarang> Hobbsee: why
[04:38] <ajmitch_> dooglus: because the packages were in the apt cache, copied from the cd
[04:38] <varsendagger> does anyone have dgen setup so that i can save them
[04:38] <Hobbsee> chasmarang: well, because there's no /win/c folder
[04:38] <Hobbsee> no, hang on...
[04:39] <basheer> has everyone upgraded to breezy?
[04:39] <unixx> i did
[04:39] <unixx> i got my cd;s last night :)
[04:39] <unixx> cd's
[04:39] <Hobbsee> basheer: yes, and got dapper here as well
[04:39] <chasmarang> yes that's where I've made it /win/c
[04:39] <dooglus> ajmitch_: ooh, I see.  is there a lot of other stuff in the cache that isn't used?
[04:39] <Hobbsee> chasmarang: on bootup, or just temporarily?
[04:39] <basheer> seems a little cleaner to me
[04:39] <Hobbsee> chasmarang: as in, do you want to mount this drive on bootup, or just temporarily?
[04:40] <basheer> having trouble with getting some programs like skype
[04:40] <chasmarang> on bootup
[04:40] <basheer> maybe my sources.list is incorrect
[04:40] <unixx> my modem keeps dialing on bootup for sum reason
[04:40] <Hobbsee> chasmarang: see this then http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[04:40] <bimberi> basheer: skype isn't in the ubuntu repositories ...
[04:40] <Hobbsee> chasmarang: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2514926 in particular
[04:41] <bimberi> ubotu tell basheer about skype
[04:41] <ajmitch_> dooglus: yeah, there's a reasonable amount that gets copied off the cd
[04:41] <darksoul> any free 3d games out there
[04:41] <ClayG> skype is a GREAT messenger but unfortunatly the people aren't the greatest
[04:41] <ClayG> or at least weren't back 5-6 months ago when i was using it all the time
[04:41] <dooglus> ajmitch_: thanks
[04:41] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, any luck?
[04:42] <Comrade_Vladimir> no same old
[04:42] <darksoul> any free 3d games out there
[04:42] <basheer> I dont know about it
[04:42] <toblerp> darksoul: neverball
[04:42] <Comrade_Vladimir> take longenough to get vack on
[04:42] <Madpilot> darksoul: Enemy Territory & America's Army - and please don't repeat questions like that...
[04:42] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, don't know what to tell you then, someone smarter than I will have to help you
[04:42] <basheer> this dude wants me to get it but not sure if I want it
[04:42] <unixx> anyone know y my modem could keep dialing at bootup?
[04:42] <varsendagger> has anyone gotten dgen to work for loading saved games
[04:42] <PorcupineTree> why might my thunderbird cstop retrieving my mail all the suddon
[04:42] <Comrade_Vladimir> some one else help me then
[04:42] <PorcupineTree> is there a log saying what it is timing out on?
[04:43] <dooglus> I just ran "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" as suggested by https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats , but even after restarting firefox I still see no flash playing.  Is this a common problem?
[04:43] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, just ask your question and if someone knows they will try
[04:43] <ClayG> basheer,  get it, if for nothing else you can make prank calls and scare people when your caller id pops up "123456789"
[04:43] <_jason> dooglus, install flashplayer-mozilla as well
[04:43] <intelikey> unixx /etc/rcS.d/net*   maybe ?
[04:43] <unixx> okok ill giver a go
[04:43] <ClayG> I like to call people with it then say I'm calling from Iraq on a satalite phones and I'm trying to reach my mother
[04:44] <Comrade_Vladimir> its a little long
[04:44] <basheer> what is dapper?
[04:44] <Hobbsee> !dapper
[04:44] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[04:44] <PorcupineTree> what do you use clayg?
[04:44] <PorcupineTree> ClayG, What do you use?
[04:44] <ClayG> ?
[04:44] <ClayG> as far as what?
[04:44] <ClayG> messengers?
[04:44] <basheer> when is that to be released?
[04:44] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok my all my media players say there is an error with the card or codec
[04:44] <PorcupineTree> ClayG, For the calling software that you are talking about
[04:44] <ClayG> Skype
[04:44] <Madpilot> to mount a FAT32 drive, should I use vfat? fat32 doesn't seem to be mentioned in man mount.
[04:45] <ClayG> This was 4-5 months ago and it has since been boughbt by paypal/ebay but im sure it's the same deal
[04:45] <intelikey> yes vfat
[04:45] <PorcupineTree> ClayG, You can't call a landline phone with that... can you?
[04:45] <ClayG> I think it was like 2.9 cents a minute
[04:45] <ClayG> yes but you will pay
[04:45] <Madpilot> intelikey: thanks
[04:45] <unixx> im out, later everyone!
[04:45] <intelikey> np
[04:45] <ClayG> it's worth it, heck you can even set up incoming numbers and select the area code you want
[04:45] <PorcupineTree> wow cool
[04:46] <God> does anyone know a good P2P client for linux?
[04:46] <TokenBad> I am going to do vonage
[04:46] <unixx> limewire
[04:46] <ClayG> it's great , very good software but the people on it are a bunch of indian fags (no offense to any indian fags, or any fags at all here)
[04:46] <ClayG> and people from Asia asking you to teach them english
[04:46] <pawan> sudoers question: my machine is called kewl, I want to run nmap from it. On a default sudoers file I just add pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap       after the    root    ALL=(ALL) ALL      line. But sudo nmap kewl      keeps prompting me for a password when I run it as pawan. Clues?
[04:46] <God> I don't like limewire
[04:46] <God> past experiences.
[04:46] <bimberi> God: gtk-gnutella is good
[04:46] <unixx> i like it, i use it on osx
[04:47] <pawan> bimberi : better than xmule?
[04:47] <God> bimberi, Hey thanks. again.
[04:47] <che_wicked> how to fix ~/.xsession-errors file?
[04:47] <bimberi> pawan: no idea, i've not used many
[04:47] <dooglus> _jason: as well, or instead of?
[04:47] <Comrade_Vladimir> any one a major in mudia in ubuntu
[04:47] <basheer> bimberi can I see your sources.list?
[04:47] <pawan> che_wicked : > .xsession-errors does it for me.
[04:48] <bimberi> God: np :)
[04:48] <che_wicked> pawan,what would i do?
[04:48] <intelikey> che_wicked sudo rm .xsession*
[04:48] <che_wicked> pawan,ok
[04:48] <bimberi> basheer: sure, mine is just like this - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[04:48] <pawan> che_wicked : if your file is huge, it just zeros it.
[04:48] <_jason> dooglus, I only have the mozilla one isntalled and it works however I have seen people recommend installing both
[04:49] <ClayG> THere was a software on windows, called irc-ork
[04:49] <dooglus> _jason: I removed the 'nonfree' and installed the one you suggested.  that worked, thanks.
[04:49] <che_wicked> pawan,i sudo usin root?
[04:49] <_jason> dooglus, great
[04:49] <dooglus> thanks for all the help over the last few days guys.
[04:49] <bimberi> basheer: note that that sources.list won't get you skype though (guessing where you're coming from)
[04:49] <pawan> intelikey : er... that will rm .xsessionrc or whatever, won't it?
[04:49] <Comrade_Vladimir> though i can put it on my mp3 player and hear it like that
[04:49] <ClayG> it was something else, it created a kazaa/limewire like interface for IRC channels, you could update the list download updated lists and basically you would have everything on irc as an option
[04:49] <dooglus> hopefully I'll go back to answering mode now, rather than asking mode :)
[04:49] <basheer> nah
[04:49] <basheer> I am not really looking for skype
[04:50] <bimberi> basheer: k :)
[04:50] <ClayG> of coarse something super new, or not dropped you would not have but if it was listed on xdccspy or the like <which is about 1 day  max> it's a done deal
[04:50] <gimmulf_> Tomorrow i will switch processor from an amd athlon xp 2600+ to an amd64 + new motherboard.. Do i need to reinstall ubuntu?
[04:50] <basheer> just wondered about it
[04:50] <Madpilot> Odd... I try this: brian@warbard:~$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdd ~/twenty, and get this reponse: mount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /home/brian/twenty busy - what's up?
[04:50] <Pupeno> gimmulf_: I'd re-install.
[04:50] <pawan> che_wicked : no. what's the problem anyway? I thought you were probably complaining about .xsession-errors being huge after a long time.
[04:51] <arkanes> gimmulf_: Yes, you will want to re-install
[04:51] <intelikey> pawan yes.   .xsession-error is an auto-generated file that xorg creates in your home dir.....   so removing it should stop any error message about it and let xorg make a new file.
[04:51] <che_wicked> pawan,it says your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and being ignored
[04:51] <versipolis> Madpilot: you arent in the directory are you?
[04:51] <bimberi> Madpilot: hdd is the whole disk.  Maybe hdd1
[04:51] <God> Lol it won't let me ssh into myself.
[04:51] <Madpilot> versipolis: nope, I'm in my own user dir when i'm trying this
[04:51] <basheer> bimberi: that is exactly what yours looks like?
[04:51] <sethk> Madpilot, that's true about hdd, but not causing your message
[04:51] <che_wicked> pawan,i try to login on desktop but that errors apear
[04:52] <sethk> Madpilot, try lsof | grep twenty
[04:52] <ubuntu43e> is there a easy way to get java support in any web browser? I have tried and not had any luck
[04:52] <bimberi> basheer: last time i looked
[04:52] <jayson_I> mono already running in ubuntu?
[04:52] <thrice`> !java
[04:52] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:52] <Madpilot> sethk: that gets me: lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev Output information may be incomplete.
[04:52] <pawan> che_wicked : interesting. I have no idea what .dmrc is. Are you able to login?
[04:53] <Comrade_Vladimir> so deos anyone know why beep displays this error     Couldn't open audio.
[04:53] <Comrade_Vladimir> Please check that:1. You have the correct output plugin selected.2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly.
[04:53] <sethk> Madpilot, man, it is seriously confused
[04:53] <bored2k> is it 100% safe to remove the 386 kernel image after i start using 686 ?
[04:53] <sethk> Madpilot, this might be a rare situation where rebooting might be justified
[04:53] <pawan> che_wicked : what is the problem?
[04:53] <che_wicked> pawan,i cant login
[04:53] <sethk> bored2k, if you don't run it, you don't need it.  but unless you need the space, what's the point?
[04:53] <che_wicked> pawan,it says your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and being ignored that errors appear
[04:54] <bored2k> sethk, k thanks.
[04:54] <intelikey> looks like 'mount/umount' has a bug on either breezy or dapper  or both,   over the last three days i've seen several people told to reboot to umount a drive.
[04:54] <bimberi> ubuntu43e: Applications -> Add Applications, Internet -> More Programs... -> Java Web Start
[04:54] <jrsims> Can someone concisely explain Gnome themes? It seems there are two flavors of themes in Gnome: metacity and GTK - and there's two versions of GTK. WTF?
[04:54] <fletch33> evening all i am trying to install freenx client and i keep getting this:  $/usr/NX/bin/nxclient &
[04:54] <fletch33> bash: $/usr/NX/bin/nxclient: No such file or directory
[04:54] <fletch33> [1]  20399
[04:54] <fletch33> [1]    Exit 127                $/usr/NX/bin/nxclient
[04:54] <fletch33>     anyone know how to fix this
[04:54] <intelikey> !flood
[04:54] <ubotu> I heard flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[04:54] <buddy>    I'm having trouble with Telnetd
[04:54] <Madpilot> sethk: actually, using bimberi's suggestion of hdd1 seems to have worked - but lsof is still confused
[04:55] <fletch33> sorry
[04:55] <doub> a bit of an OT question : what's the transition scheme from debian sid to ubuntu universe? seems like some universe apps stuck at the version they were when hoary was released
[04:55] <MrFarts> JRlinux, metacity is not a theme
[04:55] <MrFarts> jrsims, it's a window manager
[04:55] <pawan> che_wicked : google is your friend : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=502659
[04:55] <Comrade_Vladimir> so deos anyone know why beep displays this error     Couldn't open audio.
[04:55] <Comrade_Vladimir> Comrade_Vladimir Please check that:1. You have the correct output plugin selected.2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard.3. Your soundcard is configured properly
[04:55] <MrFarts> gtk is a set of widgets
[04:55] <bimberi> fletch33: following this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX ?
[04:55] <sethk> Madpilot, those are separate issues.  I said that he was right about hdd, but that you have at least two things going on there.  I get worried when things get confused in the file system
[04:55] <buddy> Where does the telnetd install to I couldnt finde etc/initd.d
[04:56] <che_wicked> pawan,ok ty anywaus
[04:56] <fletch33> bimberi,  that is where i started
[04:56] <jrsims> MrFarts: but metacity has themes, right?
[04:56] <MrFarts> JRlinux, no, gtk has themes
[04:56] <Madpilot> sethk: thankfully this is just a junk disc, my main HDD is different...
[04:56] <MrFarts> jrsims, i guess you can say metacity has themes as well because it's configurable
[04:56] <fletch33> bimberi,  i always like to search and try to find answers myself but i am stuck and really need to get this working
[04:56] <bimberi> fletch33: k, just making sure
[04:57] <Cole> fletch33: whats wrong?
[04:57] <intelikey> Madpilot did i read that right did you mount /dev/hdd some place and hdd is a hd not a cd ?
[04:57] <takmadeus> greetings.... may I suggest a package to be added to the repositories, that is, if you don't mind?
[04:57] <jrsims> MrFarts: hmm. So all themes in Gnome are GTK?
[04:57] <fletch33> look at my paste above
[04:57] <Comrade_Vladimir> is there a better way to get a response?
[04:57] <thrice`> takmadeus, what package is that ?
[04:57] <Cole> fletch33: i wasn't in room
[04:57] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, try the forums
[04:57] <MrFarts> jrsims, yes
[04:58] <cowbud> can someone point me to the oldworld instructions on installing to a g3 powerbook for ubuntu
[04:58] <fletch33> Cole, well i dont want to paste again how can i show u this
[04:58] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok where r they
[04:58] <Madpilot> intelikey: it's an ATA hard drive, showing as hdd, that I've got mounted to /home/brian/twenty now
[04:58] <thrice`> !install
[04:58] <ubotu> I guess install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[04:58] <_jason> !forum
[04:58] <ubotu> rumour has it, forum is the ubuntu web forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:58] <takmadeus> thrice`: it is a frontend for visualboyadvance
[04:58] <jrsims> MrFarts: maybe you know the answer to this - Firefox follows the theme I've set for Gnome. Synaptic doesn't. Why is that?
[04:58] <Madpilot> intelikey: my CD drives are hda & hdb
[04:58] <Cole> pastebin.com
[04:58] <takmadeus> thrice`: I found a deb package made for ubuntu
[04:58] <thrice`> takmadeus, the best place to suggest would be the backport forums, at ubuntuforums.org
[04:59] <MrFarts> jrsims, i don't know what synaptic is -- perhaps it's not a gtk application or it uses an older version of gtk
[04:59] <takmadeus> thrice`: so I thought it would be useful to add it to the repositories
[04:59] <intelikey> Madpilot i may not understand you correctly but don't you mount hdd1  rather than hdd ?
[04:59] <fletch33> Cole,  basiccaly my terminal says $/usr/nx/bin/nxclient: no such file or directory
[04:59] <Cole> fletch33: err http://pastebin.ca/
[04:59] <bimberi> fletch33: it
[04:59] <takmadeus> thrice`: thanks for the advice
[04:59] <bimberi> fletch33: it's NX (case sensitive)
[04:59] <Madpilot> intelikey: yes - trying just "hdd" wasn't working, "hdd1" did - it's mounted now
[04:59] <bimberi> fletch33: as in /usr/NX/bin/nxclient
[04:59] <takmadeus> thrice`: Good luck to you all ;)
[04:59] <fletch33> bimberi, i am sorry that i swhat is says NX
[04:59] <intelikey> mounting the disk of a hard drive is bad,  always mount partitions.
[04:59] <thrice`> takmadeus, sure thing,
[05:00] <tman_ubuntu> Can someone help me with the Tar command please?
[05:00] <MrFarts> jrsims, oh, it's the ubuntu package manager ... it should follow themes
[05:00] <Madpilot> intelikey: Linux (obviously) thinks in terms of partitions even when the whole disc is one partition
[05:00] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, what's the question
[05:00] <thrice`> tman_ubuntu, did you ask "man tar" first ?
[05:00] <intelikey> yes Madpilot
[05:00] <bimberi> fletch33: sorry, just re-read your earlier paste
[05:00] <Cole> fletch3: linux is CaSe SenSiTiVe so depending on what you type.. it might actually not be what you mean
[05:00] <tman_ubuntu> I'm trying to exclude directories but the --exclude option doesn't seem to work.
[05:01] <cowbud> anyone ubuntu ppc people here?
[05:01] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, what do you mean by exclude directories ?
[05:01] <intelikey> you never mound a disk you only mount a file system on a disk.  be it hd cd or what ever.
[05:01] <sethk> tman_ubuntu, the position on the line is important with that command
[05:01] <fletch33> Cole,  http://pastebin.ca/30492
[05:01] <tman_ubuntu> I'll post my command...
[05:01] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, i don't care about your command
[05:01] <sethk> tman_ubuntu, good idea
[05:01] <darksoul> hey my freind just downloaded ubuntu and he cant get his ethernet card working, he looked under system administration and networking but it doesnt show a eithernet card either.. just modem..and ideas
[05:01] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, i am asking what you are trying to actually do
[05:01] <fletch33> bimberi,  i dont know what the problem is
[05:02] <sethk> darksoul, is it a very odd ethernet card?  old, or very new?
[05:02] <Epic_> how the crap do I mount a drive in the livecd?
[05:02] <sethk> MrFarts, off hand, it sounds like he is trying to exclude directories
[05:02] <bimberi> fletch33: you did install the nxclient package (sudo apt-get install nxclient)?
[05:02] <tman_ubuntu> MrFarts: I'm trying to backup.  As a test, I'm doing MyDocuments directory.
[05:02] <darksoul> ill ask
[05:02] <darksoul> sethk: im asking him
[05:02] <sethk> darksoul, k
[05:02] <MrFarts> sethk, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense
[05:02] <fletch33> bimberi,  yes and it says i have the latest version
[05:02] <tman_ubuntu> here is the command I'm running:  tar cvzf /media/usbdisk/Ubuntu_backups/MyDocs.tgz MyDocuments --exclude=/home/tman/MyDocuments/My\ Music
[05:02] <intelikey> sethk didn't mean to cut in on you and Madpilot, carry on
[05:02] <Cole> fletch33: try typing "ls -l /usr/NX/bin" and what does it say
[05:02] <sethk> MrFarts, sure it does.  I do it frequently
[05:02] <darksoul> sethk: Very new, i brought it ysturday
[05:03] <sethk> MrFarts, why wouldn't it?
[05:03] <darksoul> sethk: just repeting what he said
[05:03] <sethk> darksoul, well, that's not exactly what I meant by new  :)
[05:03] <ubuntu43e> im trying to install java but it tells me that   could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock   then says unable to unlock the administration directory
[05:03] <sethk> darksoul, what kind of card is it?
[05:03] <darksoul> sethk: ill ask
[05:03] <bimberi> fletch33: k :) (sry, had to ask)
[05:03] <cyphase> Does anyone have any wireless card working out of the box on a desktop running Ubuntu?
[05:03] <Madpilot> intelikey: it's is mounted now, I'm just going to delete everything on it and reformat the thing...
[05:03] <MrFarts> sethk, it's an ambiguous statement
[05:03] <Epic_> anyone?
[05:03] <Amaranth> ubuntu43e: do you have synaptic open?
[05:03] <Cole> ubuntu43e: do you have anything else runnign for an update? or synaptic open?
[05:03] <Epic_> The wiki hsn't helped
[05:03] <MrFarts> sethk, do you flatten out your directory tree or do you just backup files in a given directory without doing subdirectories ?
[05:03] <Razor-X> cyphase: Netgear cards are supported by the kernel by default, IIRC
[05:03] <sethk> cyphase, I have two laptops I loaded up today that worked out of the box.  A card with the same chipset would be the same
[05:03] <fletch33> Cole, k 1 sec
[05:03] <ubuntu43e> im using terminal as the directions said to
[05:03] <versipolis> cyphase: never had a problem with orinoco cards..
[05:03] <intelikey> Madpilot you need to umount it for that.
[05:04] <Razor-X> cyphase: generally because they use Tulip
[05:04] <ubuntu43e> yea
[05:04] <Razor-X> (that's the chipset)
[05:04] <sethk> MrFarts, typically I exclude something that I know is already backed up and not recently changed
[05:04] <sethk> MrFarts, and large
[05:04] <ubuntu43e> i got synaptic open
[05:04] <Madpilot> intelikey: to reformat? thanks, that would have been my next question ;)
[05:04] <darksoul> sethk: im glade to see your still here lol. anyway he says 'INTEX RTL 8139D LAN Card'
[05:04] <ubuntu43e> i just caught it at the bottom
[05:04] <fletch33> Cole, no such file or directory
[05:04] <MrFarts> sethk, that's not the same as "excluding directories"
[05:04] <Cole> ubuntu43e: you can't have 2 programs in the update stuff at the same time
[05:04] <sethk> MrFarts, of course it is
[05:04] <intelikey> Madpilot sudo umount /dev/hdd1  ;sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hdd1
[05:04] <MrFarts> sethk, no it's not
[05:04] <sethk> darksoul, let me see if that occurs in the kernel source
[05:04] <Cole> fletch33: how did you install the NX client?
[05:04] <sethk> MrFarts, if you say so
[05:04] <mtupper> hey, can somebody help me with a real rookie problem?  how do I run winesetuptk?  i know its installed as i tried to install it and it said it was already installed, but I just cant figure out how to launch it...    i know its a total newbie ? but it is wine, so...
[05:05] <fletch33> directions from the wiki
[05:05] <darksoul> sethk: ?
[05:05] <OracleofWuffing> Hi, I've been having some discouraging difficulties with another OS and a fresh S-ATA hard drive, and I'm just wondering if Ubuntu is okay being installed on a S-ATA drive.
[05:05] <Cole> fletch33: link?
[05:05] <MrFarts> sethk, for a group of geeks you people are awfully vague
[05:05] <intelikey> that will format it fat32  i assumed from your earlier post.
[05:05] <Madpilot> intelikey: would it be "mkfs.ext3" to format it w/ ext3?
[05:05] <sethk> darksoul, I'm checking for support for that card
[05:05] <ubuntu43e> ok that got me past that problem
[05:05] <intelikey> yes
[05:05] <ubuntu43e> im getting there
[05:05] <Razor-X> mtupper: who/what told you to run winesetuptk?
[05:05] <bimberi> fletch33: does "dpkg -L nxclient" output anything?
[05:05] <tman_ubuntu> sethk, MrFarts, then what is the correct syntax for excluding directories using Tar?
[05:05] <fletch33> Cole, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[05:05] <intelikey> you can add -c if you want to test for bad blocks Madpilot
[05:05] <fletch33> bimberi,  1 sec
[05:05] <mtupper> razor-x: the description in synaptic...
[05:06] <cyphase> Razor-X, I have a Netgear WG311v2 card that is specifically mentioned in the wiki, but it's not working
[05:06] <Madpilot> intelikey: probably a good idea, this is not a new drive
[05:06] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, i honestly don't understand what you mean by "exclude directories" -- read above
[05:06] <freakman> does anyone know a good note-taking app?
[05:06] <Razor-X> cyphase: does it use tulip? I know older netgear cards use tulip and work out of the box like a charm
[05:06] <sethk> freakman, actually, no, I was considering writing one.  but there probably is one I haven't found.
[05:06] <tman_ubuntu> how 'bout exclude files and directories?
[05:06] <Epic_> You gotta be joking. No one can help me with a mount
[05:06] <Madpilot> freakman: Tomboy is sort of cool for little post-it note type thigns
[05:06] <cyphase> Razor-X, i don't know
[05:06] <freakman> I need something for taking class notes...
[05:06] <cyphase> i just tried using a PCMCIA -> PCI bridge card and a supported PCMCIA card, but the bridge isn't supported
[05:06] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, directories are files, but ok .. .:)
[05:06] <freakman> sethk: you should do it :-)
[05:06] <Madpilot> Epic_: read "man mount" - it should work on a LiveCD as well
[05:07] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, and on what basis would you like to exclude them ?
[05:07] <ubuntu43e> it tells me know that it cant find the java package
[05:07] <tman_ubuntu> Basically I'm trying to backup a directory.  some of the children directories i don't want to be tarred.  How do I exclude them?
[05:07] <Razor-X> mtupper: use ``wine program.exe'' and it should work out of the house
[05:07] <ubuntu43e> which i downloaded and it on the desktop
[05:07] <Epic_> k
[05:07] <sethk> freakman, I was thinking more of journal writing, but the requirements are probably very similar
[05:07] <ubuntu43e> and im running those commands from that directory
[05:07] <freakman> sethk: yeah
[05:07] <sethk> tman_ubuntu, did you post the command?
[05:07] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, depends on what you know about the files
[05:07] <cyphase> Razor-X, what exactly is tulip?
[05:07] <fletch33> bimberi, Cole http://pastebin.ca/30495
[05:07] <freakman> hmmm
[05:07] <tman_ubuntu> Yes I did.
[05:07] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, if you have a pattern to use you can use --exclude
[05:07] <Razor-X> cyphase: it's the name of a chipset
[05:07] <darksoul> sethk: well?
[05:08] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, otherwise, i would do it through find
[05:08] <freakman> how would you install http://basket.kde.org on ubuntu?
[05:08] <sethk> darksoul, hold on, it takes a little time
[05:08] <cyphase> oh
[05:08] <cyphase> lol
[05:08] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, or do incremental tar
[05:08] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, if that's what you want
[05:08] <tman_ubuntu> MrFarts, that's what I'm asking and trying to do.  It doesn't seem to work though.
[05:08] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, where's the command string ?
[05:08] <tman_ubuntu> tar cvzf /media/usbdisk/Ubuntu_backups/MyDocs.tgz MyDocuments --exclude=/home/tman/MyDocuments/My\ Music
[05:09] <Cole> fletch33: sudo ls -l /usr/NX/bin
[05:09] <TokenBad> Epic_, what you trying to mount?
[05:09] <jrsims> ah, how do I get drop-shadows in Gnome?
[05:09] <sethk> darksoul, I'm not seeing it.  It is possible that it is compatible with an earlier intel card
[05:09] <sethk> darksoul, also, some of the intel cards are repackaged marvel cards
[05:09] <freakman> sethk: do you know how to install http://basket.kde.org?
[05:09] <tman_ubuntu> MrFarts, so what do you think.  Does it look ok?
[05:09] <Orborde> I need a program to convert a file to base64. I assume there is one; I just don't know where it is.
[05:09] <arkanes> jrsims: you need to enable compositing and install & run a composite manager
[05:09] <sethk> freakman, let me take a look
[05:09] <aspro> freakman: install the debian package or check universe?
[05:10] <jrsims> arkanes: synaptic?
[05:10] <freakman> aspro: what's universe?
[05:10] <synackuator> can anyone point me to a good howto on rebuilding my kernel?
[05:10] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, no
[05:10] <arkanes> jrsims: it's a little more complicated than that, there's no magic "turn on" switch for it yet
[05:10] <aspro> the ubuntu repositories
[05:10] <synackuator> i can't seem to find one on ubuntuforums
[05:10] <darksoul> sethk: hummm so basicly itys out to get anotehr one
[05:10] <bimberi> fletch33: well there it is, line 7 :/
[05:10] <tman_ubuntu> What is out of place?
[05:10] <Epic_> Just a ide drive
[05:10] <ubuntu43e> I guess im just stuck.. i cant get it to install java
[05:10] <sethk> freakman, the source version would be easy enough to install
[05:10] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, put the --exclude before the file arguments
[05:10] <jrsims> arkanes: drat. do you have drop-shadows enabled/
[05:10] <Epic_> and I don't seem to ahve a dev/fstab
[05:10] <Cole> bimberi: i think it is a permission issue
[05:11] <Cole> bimberi: where his user doesn't have rights to even read the directory
[05:11] <freakman> sethk: I'll take a look :-)
[05:11] <sethk> darksoul, I would first go to Intel's web site and see if they reference a driver.  They sometimes do, these days
[05:11] <MrFarts> also, i don't see where exclude takes an "="
[05:11] <ubuntu43e> it says it cant find the file and its the only file in the current directory
[05:11] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, read the manpage
[05:11] <arkanes> jrsims: the composite manager occasionally locks up X for me, so I turned them back off
[05:11] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, oh sorry, it does ...
[05:12] <jrsims> arkanes: too bad. So what's the holdup on that feature for gnome?
[05:12] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, but anyway, it needs to go in the beginning
[05:12] <tman_ubuntu> MrFarts, I did read the man page.  Sometimes those are about as cryptic as ancient chinese.
[05:12] <fletch33> Cole,  i got " nxclient, mxesd,nxprint,mxssh
[05:12] <bimberi> Cole: good thinking
[05:12] <fletch33> bimberi, what does that mean then
[05:12] <Cole> fletch33: will you pastebin it i want to see permissions/owner/group stuff
[05:12] <tman_ubuntu> MrFarts, so the --exclude should go before "MyDocuments"?
[05:12] <ubuntu43e> I know it i can see how windows has such a massive user base
[05:12] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu,  tar --exclude=/home/tman/MyDocuments/My\ Music -cvzf /media/usbdisk/Ubuntu_backups/MyDocs.tgz MyDocuments
[05:12] <Epic_> Nor is there a ect/mtab
[05:12] <Epic_> wtf
[05:12] <ookami> anyone know what:  "XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool" means?
[05:13] <fletch33> Cole,  how do i do that
[05:13] <sethk> MrFarts, now you are using the =  :)
[05:13] <Madpilot> wow, deleting 7Gb of stuff with -v set in rm causes a lot of scrolling... ;)
[05:13] <ubuntu43e> i cant even get stupid java support to work
[05:13] <MrFarts> sethk, the manpage says it's ok :)
[05:13] <arkanes> jrsims: just general "work in progress" stuff and packaging issues
[05:13] <Cole> sudo ls -l /usr/NX/bin
[05:13] <bimberi> fletch33: "sudo ls -l /usr/NX/bin" -> pastebin
[05:13] <PorcupineTree> Hello
[05:13] <jrsims> arkanes: is it on the list for future Gnome releases?
[05:13] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, if you read the manpage it says that the options should go before the file names
[05:13] <PorcupineTree> Does thunderbird hav a logfile that tells what is going on during connection?
[05:14] <PorcupineTree> it is halthing when I try to access email
[05:14] <ubuntu43e> it makes no sense to go thru 30 mins of garbage just to get a java plug in
[05:14] <PorcupineTree> it has worked for monthes
[05:14] <arkanes> jrsims: I believe so, they're working on merging some of the work done with luminocity
[05:14] <TokenBad> epic you mounting a plain windows drive?
[05:14] <versipolis> exit
[05:14] <jrsims> arkanes: what's luminocity?
[05:14] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, we have told you a few solutiosn now
[05:14] <Epic_> Si
[05:14] <tman_ubuntu> MrFarts, I just tried your version and it still didn't work.  It still included the "My Music" directory.
[05:14] <fletch33> bimberi, i typed that
[05:14] <freakman> sethk: I'm getting errors
[05:14] <fletch33> bimberi,  and nothing
[05:14] <Epic_> Yes
[05:15] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, your pattern is probably wrong
[05:15] <arkanes> jrsims: experimental window manager for gnome that implements all sorts of fancy bling
[05:15] <thrice`> tman_ubuntu, what command are you using exactly
[05:15] <ookami> im trying to do ./configure on eog source but im getting:  XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool ... no idea what it means. am i missing something? i have the essential build tools...
[05:15] <TokenBad> did you first try sudo fdisk -l to list your partitions?
[05:15] <sethk> freakman, such as?  or put the errors on a 'bot.  but usually only the first two or three error lines matter
[05:15] <Cole> fletch33: how did you know the 4 files.. i want to see all the output for the files
[05:15] <aspro> freakman: did you try the debian package? most .debs work in ubuntu
[05:15] <jrsims> arkanes: slick. that makes me happy. :)
[05:15] <thrice`> ubotu, tell ubuntu43e about java
[05:15] <fletch33> bimberi,  it justs says " nxclient, nxesd, nxprint, nxssh "
[05:15] <freakman> aspro: I don't think there's a package for basket
[05:15] <Hobbsee> !tell ubuntu43e about javadebs
[05:15] <ubuntu43e> does anyone know a better way to get java support in a web browser??
[05:15] <ubuntu43e> I cant get this to work
[05:15] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, that pattern isn't going to match unless you are backing up from the root directory
[05:15] <aspro> there is, on that url you pasted
[05:16] <Cole> fletch33: did you put the -l in there thats a dash L
[05:16] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, check your PM; ubotu has told you a few ways
[05:16] <aspro> below the source download
[05:16] <Cole> fletch33: but lowercase L
[05:16] <tman_ubuntu> Ah.  Ok.  Let me go to root then.
[05:16] <aspro> http://basket.kde.org/downloads/?file=basket-0.5.0-debian
[05:16] <fletch33> Cole, ok i will try again sorry
[05:16] <thrice`> tman_ubuntu, what command did you use?
[05:16] <ubuntu43e> i didnt see the pms sorry
[05:16] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, why don't you change the pattern ?
[05:16] <Epic_> I can see documents stating drive model and driver stuff in /proc/ide/hda
[05:16] <echo> Hello, I need activex controls for Steam to load using Wine.  I can get it installed, but then it hangs after update.  I've tried installing activex controls but get error mesg. 202
[05:16] <Cole> fletch33: np .... -l is for long format.. it shows more info
[05:16] <otep> ookami: i think, apt-get install libxml-parser-perl might help
[05:16] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, if you are backing up from the root dir, you will have to exclude a lot more crap ;)
[05:17] <TokenBad> Epic_, did you read what i said?
[05:17] <TokenBad> did you first try sudo fdisk -l to list partitions?
[05:17] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, "My Music" is probably a sufficient exclude pattern
[05:17] <PorcupineTree> Does thunderbird have a log file?
[05:17] <Hobbsee> aspro: IIRC basket is in respositories
[05:17] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, *My Music*
[05:17] <MrFarts> that is
[05:17] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, use wildcards
[05:18] <Epic_> I did
[05:18] <TokenBad> ok
[05:18] <tman_ubuntu> MrFarts, Hot damn it worked.    Thanks.
[05:18] <TokenBad> and you found the partition you wanted to mount?
[05:18] <Cole> echo: what program are you trying to run in wine?
[05:18] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, what did you do ?
[05:18] <Epic_> It did nothing
[05:18] <echo> steam, for half-life 2 cs:s so on
[05:18] <fletch33> Cole,  " ls: user/NX/bin: No such file or directory"
[05:18] <fredforfaen> im currently running the k7 kernel on breezy with nvidia installed...i want to start use a i686 kernel....i got the kernel installed and it work fine but i cant seem to get ubuntu to activate 3d accelleration for my new kernel...what to do?
[05:18] <tman_ubuntu> ran it from the root directory.
[05:18] <aspro> Hobbsee: ahh Im on my mac atm so I cant check
[05:19] <bimberi> fletch33: usr not user
[05:19] <Cole> fletch: sorry no e in "sudo ls -l /usr/NX/bin"
[05:19] <Hobbsee> aspro: i just did, it's there
[05:19] <Orborde> How do I re-encode a WAV file into FLAC?
[05:19] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, i'm not sure that was a good idea
[05:19] <Hobbsee> !tell aspro about info basket
[05:19] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, i just said it would make the pattern work
[05:19] <Hobbsee> aspro: in universe
[05:19] <fredforfaen> do i have to uninstall nvidia first or?
[05:19] <aspro> Hobbsee: I'm not after it, freakman is :)
[05:19] <sethk> fredforfaen, start by doing lsmod for the working kernel, and for the new kernel, and see what's different
[05:19] <tman_ubuntu> Why not.  It accomplished what I was trying to do, didn't it?
[05:19] <intelikey> cole no sudo in ls   :)
[05:20] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, well now you'd have to extract it from root in order to get all the paths correct
[05:20] <Hobbsee> freakman: basket is in the repositories, universe section
[05:20] <Cole> intelikey: his user account can't read the directory
[05:20] <Hobbsee> aspro: ah, didnt see that
[05:20] <mhz> hi all
[05:20] <intelikey> oh
[05:20] <Cole> intelikey: permissions are fubar
[05:20] <freakman> Hobbsee: it is?
[05:20] <mhz> http://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuRequestDay
[05:20] <Hobbsee> freakman: yes
[05:20] <otep> !tell otep about eclipse
[05:20] <fredforfaen> sethk i bet its the nvidia module thats different the i686 dont have it i presume
[05:20] <Hobbsee> !tell freakman about repos
[05:20] <sethk> fredforfaen, well, of course that will change things.  :)
[05:20] <sethk> Hobbsee, you didn't make your car payment?  :)
[05:20] <fletch33> Cole, bimberi http://pastebin.ca/30497
[05:21] <tman_ubuntu> That is my intentions.  I see your point though.  Since we are on relative paths, how would I do it with relatives?
[05:21] <freakman> Hobbsee: thanks :-)
[05:21] <Hobbsee> hehehe sethk
[05:21] <Hobbsee> no problems freakman
[05:21] <freakman> I'm a linux n00b ;-)
[05:21] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, do what -- come up with a correct exclude pattern ?
[05:21] <freakman> this is my 2nd day using ubuntu :-)
[05:21] <TokenBad> sup Hobbsee...how you doing?
[05:21] <Hobbsee> you'll learn lol
[05:21] <fredforfaen> sethk do i have to uninstall all nvidia/glx stuff then install it again from my i686 kernel?
[05:21] <mhz> or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuRequestDay
[05:21] <Hobbsee> TokenBad: hey...good, just sitting here chatting to people
[05:21] <tman_ubuntu> Well, use the exclude pattern from a relative directory such as MyDocuments and not from the root.
[05:22] <sethk> fredforfaen, no, although the installer will recopy it
[05:22] <varsendagger> freakman, apt-cache search ______    this is the coolest utility ever
[05:22] <TokenBad> been a while...I tried going to another distro
[05:22] <TokenBad> but had to come back to ubuntu
[05:22] <varsendagger> then you can apt-get it
[05:22] <sethk> fredforfaen, that stuff is installed into the X directory tree, not the kernel source tree
[05:22] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, either 1. give it the relative path from where you are
[05:22] <MrFarts> 2. use a wildcard
[05:22] <Cole> fletch33: how about a "sudo -l /usr/NX" and then a "sudo -l /usr"
[05:22] <PorcupineTree> does thunderbird have a log file?
[05:22] <Hobbsee> TokenBad: what'd you use instead?
[05:22] <psusi> varsendagger, synaptic is nicer
[05:22] <fredforfaen> whats should i do then?
[05:22] <fletch33> Cole, k 1 sec
[05:22] <TokenBad> fedora
[05:22] <tman_ubuntu> Using relative path from where I am gives me the problem as stated before.
[05:22] <Cole> fletch33: np
[05:22] <PorcupineTree> for logging what went on during a connection failure
[05:22] <Hobbsee> fun
[05:23] <varsendagger> apt-cache is faster
[05:23] <TokenBad> oh yeah it was
[05:23] <jrsims> PorcupineTree: your nick - from a song?
[05:23] <Hobbsee> PorcupineTree: if it does, it'll be somewhere in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[05:23] <PorcupineTree> jrsims,  not from a song, but the name of a band..
[05:23] <jrsims> PorcupineTree: ah. thought I'd seen it somewhere.
[05:23] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, you're not doing it correctly
[05:23] <varsendagger> freakman, you can do that for tetris and then it will show you what you can download
[05:24] <Sonny_Wertzik> does anyone here use inkscape
[05:24] <ficusplanet> Sonny_Wertzik: I do
[05:24] <PorcupineTree> Hobbsee, Looked there :)
[05:24] <bob_4_a_day> ok i'm back.
[05:24] <fredforfaen> can anybody help me pls?
[05:24] <tman_ubuntu> MrFarts, OK.  I got it to work just as you said.  Thanks a bunch.
[05:24] <fletch33> Cole, http://pastebin.ca/30498
[05:24] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, i installed the deb but it only works under root....have u had this problem?
[05:25] <ficusplanet> Sonny_Wertzik: Are you trying to install 0.43 or something?
[05:25] <JRlinux> Sorry I was away.  Somebody said something to me, but it scrolled past me.
[05:25] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, no...the one from the repo
[05:25] <Cole> fletch33: err my bad ... "sudo ls -l /usr/NX" and "sudo ls -l /usr"
[05:25] <fletch33> Cole, ha 1 sec
[05:26] <PorcupineTree> Any tips for seeing why thunderbird is no longer connecting to my mailserver?
[05:26] <ficusplanet> Sonny_Wertzik: Did you install with Synaptic/apt-get?
[05:26] <PorcupineTree> I can ping it
[05:26] <MrFarts> tman_ubuntu, ok :)
[05:26] <thompa-A> !kubuntu
[05:26] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[05:26] <fredforfaen> how do i uninstall all the nvidia stuff?
[05:26] <rixth> Gonna give GIMP 2.4 a whirl now.
[05:27] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, no...im using kde...so i used adept
[05:27] <thrice`> anyone have good solutions for streaming video in firefox, pref. not using mplayer?
[05:27] <fletch33> Cole,  http://pastebin.ca/30499
[05:27] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, its version 0.42-1build1
[05:27] <thunderbolt> thrice`: why can't you use mplayer?
[05:27] <Amaranth> thrice`: totem-xine + the totem firefox plugin
[05:27] <thrice`> thunderbolt, it's compiled so bad in ubuntu, with terrible deps
[05:27] <Amaranth> thrice`: plus w32codecs if you're evil ;)
[05:28] <thrice`> Amaranth, there is a totem firefox plugin?  is it in the repos?
[05:28] <thrice`> mozplugger?
[05:28] <Amaranth> thrice`: Should be there by default.
[05:28] <Amaranth> no, a real plugin
[05:28] <ficusplanet> Sonny_Wertzik: I definitely do not have that problem - I'm running in GNOME, but I don't see why that would change things.  Do you get any errors when running inkscape from konsole as a normal user?
[05:28] <thrice`> hrm...interesting
[05:28] <thrice`> Amaranth, thanks for the tip...I'll check it out :)
[05:28] <thrice`> Amaranth, it works for you ?
[05:29] <Cole> fletch33: ooohh ok.. are you trying to use sudo to start the client?
[05:29] <Moco> I have made a Samba shared folder. When I try to access it from  my Windows computer, it asks for a username and password. When i enter that, it just prompts again. What is going on?
[05:29] <thrice`> Amaranth, the first google return was "totem plugin does NOT work" :P
[05:29] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, yes i do....   *** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x00002aaaadfaa278 ***
[05:29] <Amaranth> thrice`: I don't watch streaming video.
[05:29] <fletch33> Cole,  start the client
[05:29] <Amaranth> thrice`: Probably because they have totem-gstreamer.
[05:29] <thrice`> Amaranth, hm; interesting.  I mainly want it for streaming apple trailers
[05:29] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, its runs under root no problem
[05:30] <Cole> fletch33: when you where trying to type /usr/NX/bin/nxclient & where you putting sudo in front of it?
[05:30] <Ep|phany> are there any other p2p other then frostwire i cant seem to get it to work
[05:30] <dducko> !limewire
[05:30] <ubotu> rumour has it, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[05:30] <fletch33> Cole, i didnt realize i only needed the client on here and i installed the rest on the machine i am trying to control
[05:30] <ficusplanet> Sonny_Wertzik: Try asking in #inkscape - you could also try installing the new 0.43 autopackages.
[05:30] <fletch33> Cole, yes
[05:31] <Ep|phany> limewire works on ubuntu?
[05:31] <dducko> Yes
[05:31] <Moco> I have made a Samba shared folder. When I try to access it from  my Windows computer, it asks for a username and password. When I enter that, it just prompts again. What is going on?
[05:31] <bimberi> !limewire
[05:31] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[05:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> yeah
[05:31] <Cole> fletch: type whoami  what does it say?
[05:31] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, ok ill try that channel.....i cant install anyother packages because auto-apt doesnt offer deps and i dont know deps
[05:31] <fletch33> Cole,  i tyoed "$sudo apt-get install nxclient" to install and then "$/usr/NX/bin/nxclient &" to start it
[05:32] <hav0k> hey, how do i make a partition on my drive for installing another os?
[05:32] <odie5533> Anyone know why the embedded video files in firefox only play for about 2 seconds?
[05:32] <Sonny_Wertzik> ficusplanet, thx for the help tho
[05:32] <fletch33> Cole,  but it says it cant find it in /bin
[05:32] <ueuecoyotl> I'm trying to configure my Logitech MX1000 mouse, and at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=7b920048579372524f02e28aac74c829&p=460250&postcount=119 it says that I should edit ~/.gnomerc but there is no such file. Can I make it _anywhere_ (ie /home)?
[05:32] <Cole> fletch33: can't find /bin when you do what?
[05:32] <snowowl> Under System->Administration I do not have a Networking option on the menu when I know others do. How do I get It
[05:32] <pawan> sudoers question: my machine is called kewl, I want to run nmap from it. On a default sudoers file I just add pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap       after the    root    ALL=(ALL) ALL      line. But sudo nmap kewl      keeps prompting me for a password when I run it as pawan. Clues?
[05:33] <Ep|phany> k i extracted that and have java installed what file do i run
[05:33] <bob_4_a_day> i don't remember who it was with the fubar'd perms on /usr/blah  but for checking things like that i kinda like 'stat -c"%a %F" /usr/blah'  it doesn't try to list the directory content it just shows perms and type of inode.    (for future refferance)
[05:33] <bimberi> Moco: you'll need to add a samba account - "sudo smbpasswd -a <yourusername>", then use that username/password
[05:33] <fletch33> Cole,  http://pastebin.ca/30500
[05:33] <fredforfaen> !nvidia
[05:33] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:33] <Slaj_R> Question:  After installing xmms, freepats, timidity, and xmms-midi, when I try to launch a midi file with xmms, the program crashes.  Xmms handles other media just fine, btw.
[05:33] <psusi> bob_4_a_day, ls -ld /usr/blah should work as well
[05:34] <snowowl> Under System->Administration I do not have a Networking option on the menu when I know others do. How do I get It
[05:34] <Cole> fletch33: ok you don't have to type $
[05:34] <ubuntu43e> I install everything but not one single java based game will work
[05:34] <ubuntu43e> something must not be right
[05:34] <Cole> fletch33: you know your currently root.. there is no need to be root.. be your normal user sean
[05:35] <fletch33> Cole,  so get rid of $ for starting or when i installed
[05:35] <ubuntu43e> im using /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java to provide java... that would be correct?
[05:35] <Agrajag> ubuntu43e: you probably need sun java
[05:35] <Agrajag> !java
[05:35] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:35] <pawan> snowowl : it's probably a missing package from gnome or ubuntu network admin.
[05:35] <Moco> Thanks bimberi
[05:35] <ubuntu43e> I just installed it
[05:35] <Cole> fletch33: either.. you don't need to put a $ in front.. that means as a normal user.. where as # is the prompt when your root
[05:35] <homer> i've got a lovely bunch of coccanuts
[05:35] <Agrajag> Then why are you not using it?
[05:35] <bimberi> Moco: np :)
[05:35] <bob_4_a_day> pawan look for your name above that.   it will stop searching at the first line that works with the given command.....
[05:35] <Agrajag> That;s GNU gcj
[05:36] <Slaj_R> Oh, and here's a twist:  I just discovered that when I invoke xmms from the command prompt, the file plays.
[05:36] <ubuntu43e> i dont know how to select it
[05:36] <fletch33> Cole,  so i should install again and then execute again
[05:36] <snowowl> Under System->Administration I do not have a Networking option on the menu when I know others do. How do I get It
[05:36] <rixth> How do I get a list of currently loaded kernel modules?
[05:36] <Cole> fletch33: do you see how your currently root@Sean ???  you should be root unless you are doing something very specific
[05:36] <me__> is there  a guide to optimize ubuntu even more
[05:36] <bob_4_a_day> rixth lsmod
[05:36] <ubuntu43e> I run this command and only see 2 options  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:36] <bimberi> rixth: lsmod
[05:36] <Cole> fletch33: err should NOT be root (typo)
[05:37] <rixth> Thanks
[05:37] <ubuntu43e> what should I see?
[05:37] <fletch33> Cole,  ok how do i change that (sorry and thanks)
[05:37] <pawan> bob_4_a_day : er... I have the default sudoer file, ie it is pristine and unsullied by my hands until I add in my nmap line using visudo.
[05:37] <ubuntu43e> I went by the install guide and didnt get any errors installing it
[05:37] <Cole> fletch33: np.. did you at soem point do a "sudo su"?
[05:38] <fletch33> Cole,  dont htink so
[05:38] <Cole> fletch33: how did you open your terminal?
[05:38] <fletch33> Cole, with a shortkut i made on my desktop
[05:38] <ubuntu43e> How am i supposted to make it sun java run?
[05:38] <Cole> fletch33: do you know what that shortcut points to?
[05:39] <fletch33> Cole, cant remeber
[05:39] <pawan> snowowl: apt-get install ubuntu-standard may do it
[05:39] <fletch33> Cole,  bad typer sorry
[05:39] <bob_4_a_day> pawan get sudoers fixed ?
[05:40] <fletch33> Cole, apps, system tools, root terminal
[05:40] <Cole> fletch33: it isn't a problem. it appears that the shortcut creates a terminal as root the super user.. i would suggest using the terminal in Applications-Accessories-Terminal
[05:40] <subbie> hey, i setup apache2 and php4, but for some reason instead of displaying PHP pages the browser prompts me to download them.  does anybody know how i could possibly fix this?
[05:40] <ubuntu43e> is there any way i can check and make sure java is installed right.. as its not working
[05:40] <fletch33> Cole,  and restarting the whole gat apt
[05:40] <pawan> bob_4_a_day : I have a default sudoers file, I thought. I'll purge and reinstall it, and try the add again.
[05:40] <Cole> fletch33: that is the super user one.. with that one if not careful. you can mess your system up. its like typing sudo in front of every command
[05:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie you have to tell apache to interpret the php
[05:41] <fletch33> Cole,  thanks for your help i will try that
[05:41] <Cole> fletch33: i'd close that window and open up a normal on from the accessories window
[05:41] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: how would i go about doing this?
[05:41] <wwallace> is ubuntu better than kanotix?
[05:41] <Cole> fletch33: then i have a couple thigns for you to try.. we will fix the permissions on the fiels .. and then hopefully get the application to start
[05:41] <thunderbolt> anyone have any experience with ubuntu on systemax laptops?
[05:41] <crimsun> wwallace: inappropriate question.  My name only comes up after the root    ALL=(ALL) ALL   line.
[05:43] <fletch33> Cole,  k got sean@sean
[05:43] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: i dont believe that it has the module loading.
[05:43] <thunderbolt> ubuntu43e: what are you trying to do?
[05:43] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, ...language pls
[05:43] <ubuntu43e> i cant get java to work
[05:43] <xxvii> ok.. i am getting an error while trying to burn a .cue CD image.. anyone help me with this?
[05:43] <bob_4_a_day> pawan group admin ?
[05:43] <Cole> fletch33: good.. now try the command "sudo chown -R root /usr/NX" if you haven't yet
[05:43] <ubuntu43e> i already have download the deb and another java package from su
[05:43] <thrice`> xxvii, you know the .cue isn't the image right? :)
[05:43] <ubuntu43e> sun
[05:43] <fredforfaen> I just uninstalled nvidia-glx and changed drver: "nvidia" to "nv"....changed to my new i686 kernel and followed the howto on nvidia.....it didnt install the nvidia driver for that kernel it installed it on my old kernel...get that
[05:44] <bob_4_a_day> the first user account is in the admin group pawan
[05:44] <ubuntu43e> and also i installed everything in terminal and got no errors
[05:44] <ubuntu43e> but no java based game will work
[05:44] <thunderbolt> have you checked your shell variables?
[05:44] <fredforfaen> what to do?
[05:44] <xxvii> thrice`: right.. it's just a text document that tells the burning software where to split tracks from one huge file
[05:44] <fletch33> Cole,  k did that
[05:44] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, java -version ... what did you get ?
[05:44] <thunderbolt> your JAVAPATH and PATH?
[05:44] <Cole> fletch33: "sudo chgrp -R root /usr/NX"
[05:44] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie look for a line that says AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml
[05:44] <xxvii> thrice`: is there a certain way to burn .cue files?
[05:44] <fletch33> Cole, y
[05:44] <thrice`> xxvii, what are you using to burn?
[05:44] <ubuntu43e> I used the wiki unbuntu guide and got the versions it told me to get there
[05:44] <fletch33> Cole,  no not that 1 sec
[05:45] <pawan> bob_4_a_day : grep pawan /etc/group | grep ^admin      gives: admin:x:109:pawan
[05:45] <xxvii> thrice`: i've tried k3b (didn't work) and GNOMEbaker
[05:45] <ubuntu43e> which is 1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin
[05:45] <fletch33> Cole,  k done
[05:45] <xxvii> thrice`: neither worked.. both gave me errors
[05:45] <bob_4_a_day> pawan what i'm saying is move that line up a few notches and it should work.
[05:45] <ubuntu43e> and also the sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb
[05:45] <varsendagger> any one use enlightenment, is it cool?
[05:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie, your file should be in /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
[05:45] <thrice`> xxvii, and you're *certain* the image is good...?
[05:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> or similar
[05:46] <ubuntu43e> i installed everything and it doesnt work
[05:46] <bob_4_a_day> pawan some place above that line 'admin:x:109:pawan'
[05:46] <ubuntu43e> no java game will work
[05:46] <Cole> fletch33: "ls -l /usr" and then "ls -l /usr/NX" and then "ls -l /usr/NX/bin" and paste then to the pastebin
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, java -version ... does that return you the version you installed ?
[05:46] <fletch33> Cole,  1 sec
[05:46] <Madpilot> cool - running "shred" then reformatting a 20Gb drive gets the poor old thing fairly warm... ;)
[05:46] <ubuntu43e> where do i need to type that at in terminal?
[05:46] <Cole> fletch33: np
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, yes ... terminal
[05:46] <cowbud> anyone have issues iwth the ubuntu ppc install failing at the timezone config?
[05:46] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[05:47] <xxvii> thrice`: i've hundreds of CDs using .cue files (on Windows).. i've made my own cue files.. i can't find anything wrong with them.. this is my first attempt at trying to burn from cue file on Linux though
[05:47] <bob_4_a_day> cole could it be that /usr is x00 perm ?
[05:47] <thrice`> xxvii, did you try the bin file ?
[05:47] <ubuntu43e> what directory do i need to be in ?
[05:47] <Cole> bob_4_a_day: i think we sorted it out.. gonna have him launch the app after i just verify the changed perms
[05:47] <ubuntu43e> to run that command
[05:47] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, anywhere ... just type that pls
[05:47] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: im sorry, i had to step away from the computer.  i dont believe apache2.conf is loading the module but i dont know how to tell it to do so.
[05:47] <ubuntu43e> i ran it in the firefox plugin directory
[05:48] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie look for a line that says AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml
[05:48] <ubuntu43e> and it says javaclass not found
[05:48] <ubuntu43e> and i just installed and ran it there
[05:48] <ubuntu43e> I got no errors when i did it
[05:48] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: oh, actually that is there, i uncommented it then i did an /etc/init.d/apache2 stop and then a start but it didn't seem to fix the problem
[05:48] <xxvii> thrice`: i don't have a bin file for these mixes.. i downloaded mixes off of generationtrance.com (completely free) and they only come with cue files.. is there a way to make a bin file? i've never done it
[05:48] <ubuntu43e> i went by this guide   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:49] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, pls lets take it from step 1 ... first .. you installed java .. how ? which java ?
[05:49] <ubuntu43e> I followed this guide  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:49] <fletch33> Cole,  http://pastebin.ca/30501
[05:49] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie, you need it there, ok if it is there uncomment it
[05:49] <Cole> xxvii: the bin file has all the data in it.. the cue file is just a how to burn file.
[05:49] <ubuntu43e> I downloaded both packages on the desktop
[05:49] <Cole> fletch33: next time a lower case L is in order.. but since youc an see it.. it must have worked..
[05:50] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 <--- this line ?
[05:50] <Cole> fletch33: now try trying "/usr/NX/bin/nxclient"
[05:50] <R0bNyc> why we only have 2.6.12 kernel?
[05:50] <ubuntu43e> I didnt do that
[05:50] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie do you have apache loading the module?
[05:50] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, ... then what did you do ?
[05:50] <ubuntu43e> and its not that version of java this is a old version
[05:50] <fletch33> Cole,  k
[05:50] <xxvii> Cole: ok.. well, these mixes don't come in any type of archived file format. they come seperately as .mp3 and .cue..
[05:50] <gnesis> how can i installa flash player 7 on ubuntu???
[05:50] <ubuntu43e> I did what the guide told me to do
[05:50] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: i thought uncommenting that would load the module?  If not then i don't know how to make it load the module
[05:51] <gnesis> how can i install flash player 7 on ubuntu???
[05:51] <ubuntu43e> first  chmod +x jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[05:51] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, which part of the guide ... pls be more specific ...
[05:51] <wickedpuppy> sun java part
[05:51] <fletch33> Cole,  i cant thank u enough it is working
[05:51] <wickedpuppy> k
[05:51] <ubuntu43e> then udo apt-get install fakeroot  java-package java-common
[05:51] <Cole> xxvii: ahh ok..  you can just try to use serpentine audio cd  creator with the mp3s?
[05:51] <ubuntu43e> then  fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[05:51] <ubuntu43e> sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb
[05:51] <Cole> fletch33: np goodluck with that
[05:51] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie depending on the version it might be loading by default
[05:51] <fletch33> Cole, i hope i can soon help others now i just have to figure otu how to use it
[05:51] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, no errors for all those ?
[05:51] <xxvii> Cole: ok, i'll give it a shot
[05:51] <ubuntu43e> none
[05:51] <pawan> bob, I'm going to #paste to paste my sudoers file there. It'd be nice if you looked at it
[05:52] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: i went into the directoy called "mods-enabled" and i saw a php4.conf and a php4.load
[05:52] <thrice`> pawan, pastebin it
[05:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie, ok good
[05:52] <ubuntu43e> then sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:52] <drcode> any one mybe have idea why my static route dissaper
[05:52] <drcode> I did route add
[05:52] <Cole> xxvii: only thing is i don't recall if mp3 support is built in as it is a restricted format. so unless you have already installed those libraries.. i dont' think it will work
[05:52] <S_Hunter> Q: what is the minimum specs to run Ubuntu?
[05:52] <ubuntu43e> I only got 2 options to choose from
[05:52] <drcode> and after 10 min it boom dissaper
[05:52] <ubuntu43e> and choose the 2
[05:52] <pawan> !ubotu pastebin?
[05:52] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:52] <Cole> xxvii: i just don't know.. i haven't tried it myself
[05:52] <ubuntu43e> then sudo mkdir -p /home/username/.mozilla/plugins
[05:53] <xxvii> Cole: ok, i'll see what happens.. thanks
[05:53] <drcode> no reset or somthing
[05:53] <ubuntu43e> then cd /home/username/.mozilla/plugins
[05:53] <ubuntu43e> ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so libjavaplugin_oji.so
[05:53] <ubuntu43e> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[05:53] <ubuntu43e> and that was it
[05:53] <mac0sxus3r> guys I really need help with Synaptic, whenever I try to install/upgrade/remove something it wants me to remove the rest of my apps!
[05:53] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: there is a line in the php4.load that says "LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so"
[05:53] <fletch33> Cole,  1 more ? wil i always have to type a command line to start it or will i be able to make it an option somewhere like in apps
[05:53] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, don't paste the whole tutorial here please...we know where it is
[05:53] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, type ... whereis java
[05:53] <ubuntu43e> ok
[05:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie does restarting apache give you any errors? like can't find module?
[05:54] <Cole> fletch33: click "applications" "system tools"  "applications menu edditor"
[05:54] <ubuntu43e> java: /usr/bin/java /usr/bin/X11/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[05:54] <ubuntu43e> ubuntu@137-118-160-191:/home/username/.mozilla/plugins$
[05:54] <ubuntu43e> thats what i got
[05:54] <Cole> fletch33 and a program shoudl start
[05:54] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: nope. if i type /etc/init.d/apache2 start i dont get anything.  but if i go to the deafult index.html its loaded
[05:54] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: and if i do a stop it stops without a problem
[05:54] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, /usr/bin/java -version ... what did you get ?
[05:54] <pawan> ok, pasted at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4899
[05:55] <fletch33> Cole, thanks
[05:55] <xxvii> Cole: that's not going to work.. it doesn't have any support for .cue files, and there's no way to split up the tracks manually :\
[05:55] <mac0sxus3r> can someone please help me with Synaptic, whenever I try to install/upgrade/remove something it wants me to remove the rest of my apps!
[05:55] <ubuntu43e> i got java version "1.4.2"
[05:55] <ubuntu43e> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[05:55] <ubuntu43e> Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[05:55] <ubuntu43e> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
[05:55] <ubuntu43e> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
[05:55] <ubuntu43e> ubuntu@137-118-160-191:/home/username/.mozilla/plugins$
[05:55] <Cole> xxvii: oh its not a bunch of seperate mp3s?
[05:55] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie is your will phpinfo(); work
[05:55] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, again, dont' paste those things in here
[05:55] <ubuntu43e> something is not right there
[05:55] <thrice`> !paste
[05:55] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:56] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, pls don't paste here ... if more than a couple of lines
[05:56] <Cole> fletch33: when you create a new entry  the command line would be /usr/NX/bin/nxclient
[05:56] <S_Hunter> I have a Notebook.  600mhz 64mb ram.  What OS should I run?
[05:56] <ubuntu43e> it know it would be that much
[05:56] <bob_4_a_day> fletch33 anything that can be ran from the command line can be set up to start as any other app.  some times it takes making a script but it can be done.
[05:56] <ubuntu43e> didnt know
[05:56] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: i tried creating a page that was just phpinfo(); and my browser attempts to download it as well instead of dispalying it
[05:56] <kevogod> Is there a way to have Azureus and Eclipse installed without conflict?
[05:56] <Cole> fletch33: and the name would be whatever you want to call it
[05:56] <xxvii> Cole: nope.. just one 74 minute .mp3.. that's what i need the .cue file for
[05:56] <thrice`> ok, so you do have java installed
[05:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie stupid question,
[05:56] <thrice`> have you restarted firefox?
[05:56] <Cole> xxvii: can you pastebin what is in the .cue file?
[05:56] <ubuntu43e> i closed all firefox windows
[05:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie, is it a .php file? I know I know
[05:56] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: yes it is :-\
[05:56] <ubuntu43e> do i need to do something else
[05:57] <fletch33> Cole,  ok trying that thanks
[05:57] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, you made the symlink, right?
[05:57] <xxvii> Cole: sure, never used pastebin before.. what do i do?
[05:57] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, its most likely /usr/bin is not in your path ...
[05:57] <ubuntu43e> im not sure
[05:57] <Astxist> my update manager seems to have stalled can anyone help me?
[05:57] <kevogod> Azureus wants libswt-gtk-3.1-java and libswt-gtk-3.1-jni but Eclipse wants conflicting libswt3.1-gtk-java and libswt3.1-gtk-jni.
[05:57] <thrice`> the ln -s deal
[05:57] <wickedpuppy> add it .. and you be fine .. and your /etc/alternatives is pointing to wrong java
[05:57] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie dont be offended, I had to ask
[05:57] <mac0sxus3r> AstxistL likewise man
[05:57] <ubuntu43e> oh i need to run that command in user bin
[05:57] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: hehe i'm not.  i think maybe apache2 isn't actually stopping when i stop it.
[05:58] <bob_4_a_day> hmmmm intesting ..... [alt] +[print-screen] +b    very interesting indeed......
[05:58] <thrice`> check in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ to see if you "libjava" exists
[05:58] <mac0sxus3r> Astxist: how's it stalled?
[05:58] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie ok how about a file interpretation line in your apache.conf?
[05:58] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjava*
[05:58] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: i have an entry in /etc/mime.types
[05:58] <Ep|phany> what codec do i need to watch a streaming video file more specifically a .asx?
[05:58] <Cole> xxvii: just post the text in the box on the page http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ and click send. and then give me the url it sends you 2.. but to open the cue file you can open it in any text editor.. let me know if you need help with that
[05:58] <Astxist> ops
[05:58] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie something that begins like <File *.php> or the like?
[05:58] <Astxist> ctrl-c does not copy text
[05:58] <Astxist> damn it
[05:59] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: i will check hold on
[05:59] <ubuntu43e> #flood  lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 63 2005-11-23 04:24 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[05:59] <bob_4_a_day> Astxist highlight it and point the mouse and dubble/or middle click
[05:59] <ubuntu43e> ubuntu@137-118-160-191:/home/username/.mozilla/plugins$
[05:59] <xxvii> Cole: nope, i got it.. i've made cue files for DJs' mixes.. k, i'll post that right now
[05:59] <Astxist> bob_4_a_day, I canceled it :/
[05:59] <ubuntu43e> I got that above
[06:00] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: is it possible that maye i have apache1.4 and apache2 installed?  i'm trying to get mythweb to work.  i just did a stop on /etc/init.d/apache2 and /etc/init.d/apache.  i confirmed the web server is down.  then i did /etc/init.d/apache2 start.  it doesn't give any info back and i can't connect to the webserver
[06:00] <bob_4_a_day> yeah Astxist just telling you how you can copy & paste without keys.
[06:00] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, hrm...killall -9 firefox-bin   to make sure all firefox is done (make sure you're not doing naythign important before running :) )
[06:00] <Astxist> bob_4_a_day, k
[06:01] <ubuntu43e> ok i did that
[06:01] <freakman> I think there's something from with my computer
[06:01] <freakman> something wrong*
[06:01] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie do a "locate apachectl" or try apachectl restart from a cli
[06:01] <freakman> is it bad if it says kubuntu instead of ubuntu when you're starting up?
[06:01] <freakman> and I'm using ubuntu?
[06:01] <keyfitter> no
[06:01] <freakman> keyfitter: why is it doing that?
[06:02] <freakman> I want it to say ubuntu :-(
[06:02] <bob_4_a_day> freakman did you install kubuntu-desktop ?
[06:02] <keyfitter> you must be using kdm instead of gdm
[06:02] <freakman> yeah
[06:02] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: the weird thing is, when the download starts it says "you have choesn to open index.php which is a application/x-httpd-php"
[06:02] <bob_4_a_day> freakman that's why
[06:02] <ubuntu43e> I keep getting exception noclass deffound error when trying to play a java based game?
[06:02] <Ep|phany> anyone know what media player plays .asx
[06:02] <ubuntu43e> It still doesnt work
[06:02] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, in about:plugins do you see java listed?
[06:02] <freakman> bob_4_a_day: but it wasn't doing that before
[06:03] <freakman> keyfitter: and I thought I installed gdm
[06:03] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie that is weird...have you tried google on that one?
[06:03] <freakman> er
[06:03] <freakman> using*
[06:03] <sethk> ubuntu43e, that is probably a CLASSPATH problem
[06:03] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: yeah google has been no help so far :-\
[06:03] <bob_4_a_day> before you installed kubuntu-desktop freakman ?
[06:03] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: is there a way to make sure i dont have two apaches installed? like searching apt-get for all installed apache versions?
[06:03] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, sorry, i'm out of ideas otherwise; the symlink was ran correctly, so firefox SHOULD be picking it up
[06:03] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, try another java game...
[06:03] <xxvii> Cole: did you get that msg?
[06:03] <l0cke> I am trying to find a file on my desktop through terminal. When I type dir it says desktop but when I do cd desktop it says not found. is cd even the right command?
[06:04] <sethk> ubuntu43e, do a find (or locate, if your database is up to date) for .jar files.  see if you have .jar files that are in directories that are not in yhour classpath
[06:04] <ubuntu43e> ok I will try another
[06:04] <keyfitter> freakman: if you installed kubuntu it will go with the kdm
[06:04] <thrice`> keyfitter, it should ask you which you prefer actually...
[06:04] <freakman> yeah...
[06:04] <freakman> but...
[06:04] <freakman> it wasn't saying kubuntu before...
[06:04] <freakman> and I had kubuntu-desktop installed
[06:04] <freakman> hm
[06:04] <bob_4_a_day> ubuntu-desktop is gnome kubuntu-desktop is kde xubuntu-desktop is xfce4 i think  but they are all just plain ole ubuntu.
[06:04] <aspro> l0cke: try using cd de-<tab> (autocomplete)
[06:04] <freakman> it must do with the updates I just installed
[06:04] <ubuntu43e> im running 5.10 unbuntu
[06:05] <versipolis> somone give my a hint why game performace might be so bad? I have an intel 852 chipset that seems to be setup ok but even the 2d side scrollers are unplayable..
[06:05] <freakman> bob_4_a_day: but I want it to say ubuntu :-(
[06:05] <Cole> xxvii: yes i did sorry. i don't know of a program that can handle that..
[06:05] <wickedpuppy> sigh .... ubuntu43e can you try this ... export PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin ... then type java -version
[06:05] <freakman> not kubuntu :-(
[06:05] <freakman> maybe..
[06:05] <Cole> xxvii: i'm not saying there isn't.. i just never tried to use a cue file like that myself
[06:05] <freakman> I should switch desktop managers?
[06:06] <thrice`> wickedpuppy, that shouldn't be necessary..../usr/bin is undoubtaly in his path if he can run firefox
[06:06] <Pablo_C> for some reason my laptop is shutting down about once a day... just randomly... anyone got any suggestions on how to troubleshoot it... I am a n00b to ubuntu
[06:06] <freakman> bob_4_a_day: should I switch desktop managers?
[06:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie sorry, was afk a sec
[06:06] <ubuntu43e> it says its free software
[06:06] <Ueuecoyotl> Check ouy number 2 at http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=46 it says "where X = input device number", but which number above that text is the input device number?
[06:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie yeah, you can do that
[06:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> apt-get install apt-show-versions
[06:06] <sethk> freakman, you can try it.  if you don't like, switch back.
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> thrice`, but java isn't ... i am wondering why
[06:06] <xxvii> Cole: really? k3b and gnomebaker both recognize cue files.. are there different types of cue files?
[06:06] <bob_4_a_day> freakman look in /etc/*release*  /etc/*issue*    and call it what ever you want.
[06:06] <ubuntu43e> copyright 2005 free software foundation
[06:07] <ubuntu43e> that is what i get
[06:07] <ubuntu43e> that isnt right
[06:07] <freakman> sethk: how do I switch? :-D
[06:07] <ubuntu43e> i dont think
[06:07] <Cole> xxvii: uhh i dunno.. ive just never done that. i've jsut always used standard bin/cue fiels.. so i dont' know what k3b / gnomebaker will do
[06:07] <sethk> freakman, if you install kdm, synaptic will ask you if you want to switch
[06:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie then do an apt-show-versions | grep apache
[06:07] <l0cke> I get a syntax error near unexpected token `newline' when I try cd cd-<tab>
[06:07] <sethk> freakman, I don't remember what it actually does  :)
[06:07] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: yeah i just did that and look at this
[06:07] <subbie> apache/unknown uptodate 1.3.33-8
[06:07] <subbie> apache2-common/unknown uptodate 2.0.54-5ubuntu2
[06:07] <xxvii> Cole: otherwise, do you know of a way that i can split up a 70+ minute long .mp3 file into seperate tracks?
[06:07] <freakman> I don't get it though
[06:07] <freakman> I'm using gdm
[06:08] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: that could defintley be part of the problem i'd say :)
[06:08] <Ep|phany> anyone know how to add the marillat repository?
[06:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie yepper
[06:08] <freakman> but it says kubuntu in the beginning :-\
[06:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie remove the 1.3
[06:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> heheh
[06:08] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: so can i apt-get remove apache ? that would uninstall it correct?
[06:08] <xxvii> Cole: thanks for lookin into this btw
[06:08] <aspro> l0cke: I mean start typing desktop, but before you finish hit tab
[06:08] <ubuntu43e> Is there another distro that has java support built in?
[06:08] <aspro> it should autocomplete the name
[06:08] <sethk> l0cke, you've created an executable file in your path that begins with cd and has a newline embedded in the name
[06:08] <Pablo_C> for some reason my laptop is shutting down about once a day... just randomly... anyone got any suggestions on how to troubleshoot it... I am a n00b to ubuntu
[06:08] <ubuntu43e> unbuntu has too many issues
[06:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie no you need to remove by version
[06:09] <Pablo_C> it was fine for about the first month
[06:09] <Cole> xxvii: hmmm.. no i dont.. i'm actually not much of an audiophile.. i listen to my music but thats about it
[06:09] <sethk> Pablo_C, step 1 is to see if anything is written into the logs.  start in /var/log/messages
[06:09] <l0cke> it just beeps
[06:09] <Pablo_C> ok I will check
[06:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie uh, yes, it should work...disregard the last post
[06:09] <Pablo_C> thanks sethk
[06:09] <Cole> xxvii: sorry i coudlnt' have been more of a help
[06:09] <sethk> ubuntu43e, if you can't make it go on ubuntu, you aren't going to get anywhere with any of the other distros either
[06:09] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: ok well i managed tog et apache 1.3 removed, but now apache 2 seems totally unresponsive when i try to start it :-\
[06:09] <aspro> wrong spelling then, try capitalising if you arent
[06:09] <xxvii> Cole: right on, i'll ask on the generationtrance forum.. i'm sure at least one person on there uses Linux.
[06:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie how so?
[06:10] <sethk> ubuntu43e, also ignoring people when they tell you what is wrong is not a great way to fix a problem.  :)
[06:10] <g00r0n> if i use synaptics to install KDE (even though i'm using std. WM - gnome) will i have a choice upon boot to choose kde or gnome?  will installing kde mess anything up in gnome?
[06:10] <ubuntu43e> i dont understand why something so simple as enabling java pluging support for firefox is hard
[06:10] <sethk> g00r0n, you'll get the same login screen
[06:10] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: oh! i did /usr/sbin/apache2 and the server started fine!!!  when i tried /etc/init.d/apache2 start it didn't do anything
[06:10] <l0cke> i still get cd: DESKTOP: No such file or directory
[06:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie no news is good news...is it serving anyway?
[06:10] <sethk> g00r0n, when you click on session, KDE will be there
[06:10] <xxvii> Cole: no man, you've been a huge help, you've saved me the trouble of wasting hours upon hours of not getting this stuff to work. haha
[06:10] <ubuntu43e> I am not ignoring anyone
[06:10] <sethk> g00r0n, it won't be your default session
[06:10] <sethk> ubuntu43e, I told you more than once about your classpath problem
[06:10] <Cole> xxvii: lol ok. you could always try burning it to a cd with gnomebaker/k3b and then rip it back off
[06:10] <aspro> is the folder called 'Desktop' linux is case sensitvie
[06:10] <sethk> g00r0n, so nothing nasty is going to happen just by installing kde
[06:11] <ubuntu43e> yea but i have no idea in hell how to fix that
[06:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie kill the sbin process and try it again from init
[06:11] <sethk> g00r0n, you will (if you install all of it) get a question about whether to use gdm or kdm.  say gdm
[06:11] <pawan_> my sudoers file is in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4899  - the only change I have made from the default for the machine kewl is to add the line: pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap
[06:11] <aspro> l0cke: no colon after cd
[06:11] <l0cke> yeah forgot the capital D
[06:11] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: allthough it will display my index.php which is just phpinfo(); but when i try to go to /mythweb i still get the bizzare trying to download php pages problem
[06:11] <l0cke> doh!
[06:11] <sethk> ubuntu43e, if that is what's wrong, you can't fix it any other way.
[06:11] <l0cke> it works now
[06:11] <aspro> lol
[06:11] <pawan_> but sudo nmap kewl doesn't run.
[06:11] <pawan_> clues?
[06:11] <ubuntu43e> im trying to learn linux so i can install it on some other users computers who keep getting viruses on their window machines
[06:11] <aspro> :)
[06:12] <xxvii> Cole: maybe.. is there any audio software that you think might be able to crop or trim time off of a larger mp3 file?
[06:12] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: i did killall apache2 =X
[06:12] <ubuntu43e> sethk what would cause this?
[06:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie did you set your permissions in apache.conf file to allow that folder to run apps?
[06:12] <ubuntu43e> I have did nothing
[06:12] <Astxist> well it all seems fine used sudo apt-get upgrade and the package installed this time
[06:12] <freakman> didn't Hobbsee say that basket was a package on universe?
[06:12] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: no probably not since i haven't a clue how to do that :)
[06:12] <sethk> ubuntu43e, it's a common problem with java, not on linux particularly but also on windows and mac
[06:12] <Cole> xxvii: i'm checking in synaptic
[06:12] <Astxist> had to recompile/reinstall my modem drivers though
[06:12] <Pablo_C> sethk,  what exactly am I lookin for in the messages?
[06:12] <sethk> ubuntu43e, what I would do is copy whatever jar files you have into a directory that is definitely in your classpath
[06:12] <ubuntu43e> I have never had any problems with java on any windows version i have had
[06:12] <xxvii> Cole: oh, don't worry about it.. i'll do that. thanks man
[06:13] <ubuntu43e> and i been using it since 1997
[06:13] <pawan_> actually , sudo nmap kewl    prompts for a password., though I have the line    pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap in the sudoers file.
[06:13] <ubuntu43e> on the internet
[06:13] <Cole> xxvii: i don't see one..
[06:13] <xxvii> Cole: i was just wondering if you knew of anything off the top of your head
[06:13] <zoexii> hey, I am having trouble logging in, none of my desktop enviornments want to work.  I get an error with IceTransmkdir.  What can I do?
[06:13] <ubuntu43e> not one class problem
[06:13] <sethk> ubuntu43e, such as where the main java jar files are installed.  If you look at the details in synaptic (which you can see for something you are installing or have already installed) look at the file list for the java VM and see where .jar files are installed
[06:13] <ubuntu43e> I have been doing this since 1997
[06:13] <ubuntu43e> I build my own computers
[06:13] <Cole> xxvii: freshmeat.net is also your friend when looking for programs.. but they typically aren't packaged quite as nicely
[06:13] <bob_4_a_day> hehhe i've never had any problem with jave either.... i always remove the default install of java, and hmmm no problem   :)
[06:14] <sethk> Pablo_C, since your problem is so undefined, it's really hard to say.  just look for errors.  normally there shouldn't be errors in the logs
[06:14] <xxvii> Cole: alright, i'll check that out, thanks man
[06:14] <ubuntu43e> ok I will take a look sethk
[06:14] <Cole> xxvii: np gl
[06:14] <sethk> ubuntu43e, this is a software configuration problem that has to do only with java
[06:14] <Pablo_C> sethk, can I show you a pastebin?
[06:14] <ubuntu43e> what are the files installed in the wrong place?
[06:14] <sethk> ubuntu43e, you could know everything in the universe about computers except java, and have no idea what to do  :)
[06:14] <Mandy> Join ##apple
[06:14] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie sorry, the wife is telling me it is late, and we have a trip tomorrow. I think if you set the permissions in apache.conf and allow the apache user access to execute in the folder it should work
[06:14] <Cole> xxvii: err there is a package called mp3splt in synaptic.. that is a command line program.. but it might work
[06:14] <sethk> ubuntu43e, usually they are .jar files
[06:14] <ubuntu43e> I understand that
[06:15] <subbie> The_Isle_of_Mark: ill try to figure it out, thanks :)
[06:15] <sethk> ubuntu43e, I just mean I'm not trying to be insulting or anything
[06:15] <xxvii> Cole: cool, i'll check it out
[06:15] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie, sorry
[06:15] <sethk> Pablo_C, sure, I'll take a look
[06:15] <Cole> xxvii: its in universe.. not sure if you have taht enabled
[06:15] <The_Isle_of_Mark> subbie oops ...your welcome for what it was worth
[06:15] <sethk> Pablo_C, there is no guarantee that anything is logged, but it's possible so you look
[06:15] <robotgeek> ubuntu43e: java -jar file.jar
[06:15] <sethk> ubuntu43e, java is its own little world
[06:15] <xxvii> Cole: yea i have universe
[06:16] <Cole> xxvii: there is also one for wrapping multiple mp3's together.. just search on mp3.. and you will see some apps that might help
[06:16] <thrice`> robotgeek, he's concerned with it's integration into firefox...I think java is not the problem, but with firefox recognizing it
[06:16] <sethk> robotgeek, good idea, I forgot about that
[06:16] <l0cke> ./toolchain.sh: line 73: gmake: command not found
[06:16] <l0cke> ./toolchain.sh: line 85: gpatch: command not found
[06:16] <l0cke> ./toolchain.sh: line 105: svn: command not found
[06:16] <l0cke> ERROR: Please make sure you have 'subversion (svn)' installed.
[06:16] <xxvii> Cole: k
[06:16] <l0cke> how do I get rid of that error
[06:16] <robotgeek> thrice`: are you on x86
[06:16] <robotgeek> l0cke: sudo apt-get install subversion
[06:16] <xxvii> Cole: thanks again for the help.. i gotta get goin.. later man
[06:16] <thrice`> robotgeek, yes, but not on my linux box
[06:16] <ubuntu43e> I have been using linux for like only 1 hour
[06:16] <sethk> l0cke, subversion is a source code versioning system that is meant as a replacement and improvement to CVS
[06:16] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, fun eh :)
[06:16] <l0cke> okay
[06:17] <ubuntu43e> it sucks
[06:17] <sethk> l0cke, it looks like you should install subversion, although  I don't know whether that makes sense because I don't know what's wrong
[06:17] <sethk> l0cke, I can't read fast enough  :)
[06:17] <ubuntu43e> there is no way i can install this on other peoples machines
[06:17] <l0cke> yeah, that's what i thought too
[06:17] <ubuntu43e> I would get killed
[06:17] <versipolis> anything I can do to optimize game performance? games are unplayable. default xorg.conf is setup with i810 driver for my 852gm chipset. am i missing something?
[06:17] <sethk> ubuntu43e, you would have to really understand exactly what is going on, which would certainly take a lot of time.  It's not impossible, but it would be tedious to say the least
[06:17] <ubuntu43e> it makes the most simple tasks very hard to work
[06:18] <l0cke> huh
[06:18] <l0cke> *sigh*
[06:18] <sethk> ubuntu43e, java, you mean?  yes, lot's of people agree with you about that
[06:18] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, just wait...you're still new; this stuff comes second nature after awhile
[06:18] <ubuntu43e> i mean linux
[06:18] <thrice`> java is a pain though, yes
[06:18] <robotgeek> ubuntu43e: sorry, but i dunno what you are trying to do
[06:18] <ubuntu43e> i dont know either
[06:18] <sethk> ubuntu43e, linux is actually much easier than the alternatives
[06:18] <ubuntu43e> like bsd
[06:18] <l0cke> yeah, atleast it's not windows
[06:18] <ubuntu43e> i bet so
[06:19] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, it's not hard, it's new...just give it a little time
[06:19] <ubuntu43e> I almost ready to kiss bills ass now
[06:19] <sethk> ubuntu43e, if you build the hardware, you can certainly learn the software.  It's not hard, just very arbitrary and capricious
[06:19] <ubuntu43e> i overclock alot
[06:20] <sethk> ubuntu43e, well, that would be dumb, as his o/s is much much worse.  it's built on top of VMS
[06:20] <ubuntu43e> this machine is a 4gig p4
[06:20] <ubuntu43e> 4ghz p4
[06:20] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu43e, after i learn how to drive honda can i drive f1 without learning anything extra ? after all they are both cars ...
[06:20] <sethk> wickedpuppy, not my F1  :)
[06:20] <pawan_> sudo nmap kewl    prompts for a password., though I have the line    pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap in the (until-then) sudoers file right after the root    ALL=(ALL) ALL    line. clues?
[06:20] <JRlinux> I want to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst   file, but I keep being asked for a password.   How can I do this?
[06:20] <sethk> wickedpuppy, if I had an F1, that is ...
[06:20] <ubuntu43e> i dont know what to look for in the package manager?
[06:20] <versipolis> JRlinux, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:21] <sethk> pawan_, pawan and kewl can execute nmap without providing a password
[06:21] <versipolis> JRlinux, user your password
[06:21] <ubuntu43e> im searching java
[06:21] <wickedpuppy> my point is knowing how to drive honda doesn't mean you can race in BARHonda Team
[06:21] <ubuntu43e> but i get alot of results
[06:21] <bob_4_a_day> sure.    go fast, turn left.   no problem.
[06:21] <JRlinux> versipolis, I thought I tried that, but I will go again.  Thanks.
[06:21] <l0cke> don't crash
[06:21] <sethk> bob_4_a_day, there is some thing called a clutch, or something
[06:21] <sethk> bob_4_a_day, I think you have to step on it occasionally
[06:21] <pawan_> sethk : whoa. kewl is the name of my box.
[06:21] <bob_4_a_day> oh yeah that is in most hondas too
[06:22] <bob_4_a_day> and a break
[06:22] <l0cke> also, i heard of something called a brake, but they don't use it much
[06:22] <sethk> pawan_, hey, I didn't put the line in there.  :)
[06:22] <Pablo_C> sethk, http://pastebin.ca/30505 will you please take a look and see if you see anything out of order??
[06:22] <sethk> Pablo_C, sure, hold on.
[06:22] <Badm4n> evening alllllllllllllllllllllll ( GMT +7 indonesia Time WIB )
[06:23] <zoexii> can I get some help please?  I cannot start an xsession.  my ~/.xsession-errors file lists a bunch of gunk about IceTrans.  What is IceTrans and how do I make it work again?
[06:23] <ubuntu43e> I dont see anything i package manager
[06:23] <nalioth> zoexii: in a terminal, type "rm ~/.ICEauthority"
[06:23] <ubuntu43e> I thought a debian based distro was supposed to get rid of these problems
[06:24] <bob_4_a_day> zoexii what did you do before it quit working ?
[06:24] <pawan_> sethk: um. I must be rtfm-ing wrong. Let me check.
[06:24] <zoexii> nalioth, cool, will try.
[06:24] <sethk> pawan_, I might be wrong also
[06:24] <nalioth> zoexii: use a failsafe terminal
[06:24] <Pablo_C> ok thanks sethk
[06:24] <ubuntu43e> I guess most people just dont run anything java based
[06:24] <sethk> Pablo_C, I don't see anything terribly unusual there.
[06:24] <Pablo_C> yep... I dont either
[06:24] <sethk> ubuntu43e, it isn't java, it's java in the browser, that is the problem
[06:24] <Pablo_C> :\
[06:24] <sethk> Pablo_C, any clues at all?
[06:25] <Pablo_C> not at all
[06:25] <ubuntu43e> i cant even find sun java on this computer
[06:25] <ubuntu43e> after i installed it
[06:25] <sethk> Pablo_C, it could well be hardware.  a memory problem can do that.
[06:25] <Pablo_C> I recompiled my madwifi drivers though it might be that
[06:25] <ubuntu43e> for all I know it might not even be installed
[06:25] <pawan_> sethk : looks like it. I get syntax errors if I remove kewl. I need to keep kewl ;-)
[06:25] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, java --version works right?
[06:25] <sethk> ubuntu43e, look for the java virtual machine, which is a file named java.  Not all that hard to find
[06:25] <thrice`> if so, then it's installed
[06:25] <sethk> pawan_, then I'm probably wrong about the syntax
[06:26] <sethk> pawan_, it may just mean pawan on kewl, no password to run ntp
[06:26] <ubuntu43e> I see jamve is that it
[06:26] <sethk> pawan_, which wouldn't be a terribly strange thing to be in the file
[06:26] <ubuntu43e> I do a search for java on synaptic
[06:26] <zoexii> nalioth, right on, it works... thanks.  how does this sort of thing break in the first place?
[06:26] <ubuntu43e> and get alot of results
[06:27] <ubuntu43e> I see nothing named plain java
[06:27] <Pablo_C> ubuntu43e, try sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:27] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell ubuntu43e about java
[06:27] <ubuntu43e> will do
[06:27] <pawan_> sethk: yup. and it doesn't work. It prompts me for a password. This is a default sudoers file as far as I can see.
[06:27] <Pablo_C> that is what I had to do to sort a java problem I had
[06:27] <nalioth_zZz> zoexii: you (or someone) opened nautilus with superuser privelges
[06:27] <bob_4_a_day> pawan_ still errors with your sudoers ?
[06:27] <pawan_> bob_4_a_day : yup. pasted it in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4899
[06:27] <thrice`> robotgeek, he's been through it
[06:28] <zoexii> I see.
[06:28] <sethk> see if there are any processes running that have the sudoers file open.  they may be using a cached version and not see updates immediately
[06:28] <pawan_> bob_4_a_day : just keeps prompting for a password
[06:28] <ubuntu43e> I get 2 versions when I run that command
[06:28] <ubuntu43e> /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[06:28] <ubuntu43e> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[06:28] <pawan_> do I need to relogin or something for sudo to work?
[06:28] <ubuntu43e> is that right?
[06:29] <robotgeek> ubuntu43e: use the link to install sun java
[06:30] <Pablo_C> ubuntu43e, you do not have sun java installed
[06:30] <ubuntu43e> I went thru the guide  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:31] <ubuntu43e> no errors
[06:31] <ubuntu43e> So I should see 3 options if it was installed?
[06:31] <Pablo_C>   Selection    Alternative
[06:31] <Pablo_C> -----------------------------------------------
[06:31] <Pablo_C>       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[06:31] <Pablo_C>  +    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[06:31] <Pablo_C> *     3        /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java
[06:32] <ubuntu43e> thanks pablo
[06:32] <Pablo_C> sure
[06:32] <ubuntu43e> mine isnt even installed
[06:32] <ubuntu43e> I dont understand why As i went thru the guide
[06:32] <ubuntu43e> and got no errors
[06:33] <JRlinux> versipolis, it worked, and my Debian installation is back.  Thanks.
[06:33] <ubuntu43e> I followed all the steps
[06:33] <Chousuke> ubuntu43e: did you install the .deb you got?
[06:34] <Chousuke> (I assume the guide used make-jpkg)
[06:34] <ubuntu43e> sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb
[06:34] <ubuntu43e> i did that
[06:34] <Chousuke> hmm
[06:34] <coz> hello all
[06:34] <ubuntu43e> should I have done something else
[06:35] <Chousuke> doesn't it create other debs too?
[06:35] <coz>  I don't know why I can't keep this in min but how do you install a .deb package again?
[06:35] <Chousuke> like java-common or something.
[06:35] <Chousuke> coz: dpkg -i
[06:35] <coz> dahhh
[06:35] <coz> thanks
[06:35] <sethk> ubuntu43e, no, that looks ok.  why not search for sun-j2re in synaptic, and see what happens when synaptic tries to install it
[06:35] <sethk> ubuntu43e, you see, you actually do know what to search for
[06:36] <ubuntu43e> ok
[06:37] <ubuntu43e> didnt find anything
[06:37] <bob_4_a_day> pawan_ you got it yet ?
[06:37] <sethk> ubuntu43e, hmm.  j2re means java version 2 runtime environment
[06:37] <sethk> ubuntu43e, and 1.5.1 is the version
[06:38] <pawan_> got what
[06:38] <Ep|phany> anyone know how i can add the marillat repository ?
[06:38] <bob_4_a_day> pawan_ you try  'pawan   kewl =(ALL)  NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap'   that should the syntax error and parse problem
[06:39] <ubuntu43e> i searched that also didnt find anything
[06:39] <bob_4_a_day> pawan_ let me know if it doesn't work.... k
[06:41] <pawan_> bob_4_a_day : still prompting
[06:41] <bob_4_a_day> hmm that is odd
[06:42] <bob_4_a_day> when you type hostname it does say kewl doesnt it
[06:42] <bob_4_a_day> maybe try localhost
[06:42] <pawan_> I have no syntax error with pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap    btw
[06:43] <bob_4_a_day> localhost should always be localhost.
[06:43] <bob_4_a_day> k but it is prompting for passwd ?
[06:43] <pawan_> I did the pawan   kewl =(ALL)  NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap      line, but am unsure what it does.
[06:44] <pawan_> hostname gives kewl. Lemme try localhost and localhost.localdomain too.
[06:44] <bob_4_a_day> yeah
[06:44] <pawan_> bob_4_a_day : prompts for password with kewl =(ALL)  NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap    , yes.
[06:44] <ubuntu43e> i might have it
[06:45] <Orborde> What's the command line name of the Gnome volume adjusting applet?
[06:46] <yi> gnome-volume-properties
[06:46] <bob_4_a_day> gno[tab]  and see what comes up.
[06:46] <Orborde> bob_4_a_day: About<PHONE_NUMBER>4263873642873 things, sadly.
[06:46] <Orborde> yi: Thanks.
[06:47] <bob_4_a_day> hehhe sounds right....
[06:47] <Orborde> yi: Sorry, that's not what I meant. :) . I meant the SOUND volume control.
[06:48] <bnD> can someone help me out?
[06:48] <thrice`> bnD, nope, sorry
[06:48] <bnD> i am attempting to burn mp3s to audio cd with gnome baker 'plugin for mp3 is installed'
[06:48] <bnD> heh @ thrice`
[06:48] <thrice`> :)
[06:48] <bob_4_a_day> to exit type /exit  or /quit buddy
[06:48] <bob_4_a_day> err bnD
[06:48] <bnD> bob2, i dont know what plugin i need
[06:49] <l0cke> does anyone know if linux will reconize a psp?
[06:49] <bnD> bob_4_a_day, i mean, sorry
[06:49] <bob_4_a_day> i did that too bnD :)
[06:49] <bob_4_a_day> !mp3
[06:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:49] <pawan_> arrrgh!  It doesn't work! I'm going back to windows! NOW!
[06:49] <bnD> ah, thanks ;)
[06:49] <bnD> pawan_, EW
[06:49] <bnD> only problem
[06:49] <Amaranth> ubotu: no, mp3 is <reply> to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:49] <ubotu> Amaranth: okay
[06:49] <bnD> i cant access www right now
[06:50] <bnD> damnation
[06:50] <bnD> no pkg from synaptic?
[06:50] <l0cke> hm....linux doesn't reconize my psp :(
[06:50] <yi> Orborde: oh, gnome-volume-control
[06:50] <bob_4_a_day> pawan_ localhost didn't work either ehh ?
[06:50] <holycow> pawan_, rofl
[06:50] <holycow> :)
[06:50] <APACHE^_^> hola
[06:50] <ubuntu43e> ok i got java installed now!
[06:50] <c0rrupt> hello, how can i remove xorg from running everytime i boot- to just have a console login?
[06:51] <ubuntu43e> i did all of those steps for nothing!
[06:51] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, !!!!!!1
[06:51] <thrice`> nice work
[06:51] <holycow> pawan_, congrats you just figured out the best way to get help ina linux channel
[06:51] <holycow> hehe
[06:51] <Razor-X> l0cke: I wouldn't doubt that for a minute
[06:51] <holycow> pawan_, so whats the deal?
[06:51] <ubuntu43e> all I had to do was this 1 command
[06:51] <pawan_> bob_4_a_day : nope. beats me. I'll check the setup on my debian box and see what works.
[06:51] <thrice`> ubuntu43e, which command?
[06:51] <bob_4_a_day> c0rrupt remove the symlink to gdm in /etc/rc2.d/
[06:51] <Razor-X> Sony is so wrapped up in proprietary heaven that they'ld rather die than make their protocol generic
[06:51] <ubuntu43e> i cant tell because now firefox wont run.. lol
[06:51] <c0rrupt> bob_4_a_day, how?
[06:52] <ubuntu43e> and that command was in a link i had bookmarked on firefox
[06:52] <bob_4_a_day> well i would just 'sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/*gdm* '  but you can do it any way you like.
[06:52] <pawan_> holycow: sudo nmap kewl    prompts for a password., though I have the line    pawan   kewl = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nmap in the (until-then) sudoers file right after the root    ALL=(ALL) ALL    line. This is on my box, kewl. clues? full sudoers file in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4899
[06:52] <ubuntu43e> i redid the last part of the guide .. the part about firefox plugin and stuff
[06:52] <thrice`> press the up arrow in a terminal to show past commands
[06:52] <c0rrupt> i dont know of any ways
[06:52] <uguy> Hi all, got a boot problem... as my only lilo.conf entry, I had an initrd image with an invalid "root=" entry pointing to an external HD not accessible at boot time. I thought the root= entry wasn't used until after the initial ramdisk initialization files are executed, but I'm not getting that far. At boot I see "RAMDISK: compressed image found at block 0." then "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (8,1)
[06:52] <ubuntu43e> now firefox wont run..
[06:53] <bob_4_a_day> pawan_ wait i see it.
[06:53] <pawan_> holycow : it's a default sudoers file otherwise, as far as I know.
[06:53] <bob_4_a_day> you are adding an arg.
[06:53] <c0rrupt> bob_4_a_day, how do you make links?
[06:53] <ubuntu43e> but when i ran the  udo update-alternatives --config java
[06:53] <holycow> how did you edit the sudoers file?
[06:53] <ubuntu43e> I got 3 options
[06:53] <holycow> hopefully not with a text editor
[06:53] <bob_4_a_day> c0rrupt ln -s blah to.blah
[06:53] <bnD> can someone tell me what to do without sending me to the restrictedformats page? i cant browse the web atm :/
[06:54] <bob_4_a_day> pawan_ you are typing  sudo nmap kewl ?
[06:54] <thrice`> bnD, well, you'll likely needp ackages from the web anyways :(
[06:54] <bnD> thrice`, damnation ;P
[06:54] <ubuntu43e> I got the same options as pablo posted
[06:54] <ubuntu43e> i selected 3
[06:54] <pawan_> bob_4_a_day : yes. but I get prompted if I type sudo nmap     too, without an argument
[06:54] <holycow> pawan_, if you edited it with a text editor you are going to have problems
[06:54] <c0rrupt> bob_4_a_day, im actually using kubuntu
[06:54] <c0rrupt> so would i remove kdm?
[06:54] <thrice`> bnD, yes :(  you need a gstreamer plugin for mp3 support
[06:55] <ubuntu43e> now firefox doesnt load
[06:55] <pawan_> holycow : I used visudo throughout, as far as I am aware.
[06:55] <bnD> thrice`, i thought i did already, weird
[06:55] <bnD> oh, thats my laptop
[06:55] <bnD> shite
[06:55] <thrice`> =\
[06:55] <bnD> excuse the language
[06:55] <holycow> pawan_, weird, that looks ok to me ...
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <ubuntu43e> i get java installed and stupid firefox dies just my luck
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <dbob_4_a_ay> pawan_ sorry i got disconnected.
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <Razor-X> skrewler: ....
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <jesseman_> rofl
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <jesseman_> spambots for the win!
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:55] <Razor-X> yay!
[06:55] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:56] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:56] <Razor-X>  /ignore is awesome
[06:56] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:56] <pawan_> bob_4_a_day : yes. but I get prompted if I type sudo nmap     too, without an argument
[06:56] <skrewler> 21:53 <@o> jewz did nlp
[06:56] <Astxist> er
[06:56] <skrewler> sry
[06:56] <thrice`> Seveas, around?
[06:56] <dbob_4_a_ay> you are calling    "/usr/bin/nmap kewl"   but you have the command "/usr/bin/nmap " in the sudoers.  you must have all args....  :)
[06:56] <jesseman_> ban please
[06:56] <sethk> c0rrupt, don't remove it, just change your configuration to not use it.
[06:57] <Agrajag> is mono horribly broken on amd64 or something?
[06:57] <holycow> so you see pawan_ its all your fault afterall
[06:57] <holycow> -_-
[06:57] <holycow> *giggle*
[06:57] <sethk> Agrajag, what are you seing?
[06:57] <bnD> hmm, apparently i could do it by grabbing k3b and k3b-mp3 something or rather
[06:57] <bnD> ;D
[06:57] <bnD> thanks guys
[06:57] <bnD> night
[06:57] <Agrajag> seing?
[06:57] <c0rrupt> sethk, how..
[06:57] <Agrajag> useing?
[06:57] <rohan> hi all
[06:57] <Agrajag> I'm trying to run muine
[06:57] <sethk> Agrajag, what is it doing that makes you think it is broken?
[06:57] <c0rrupt> thankfully i made a backup of it before i removed it
[06:58] <intelikey> pawan_ sorry i didn't catch that eariler....
[06:58] <rohan> i am having problem installin a gdm theme
[06:58] <rohan> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=29032
[06:58] <rohan> this theme
[06:58] <Amaranth> Next time someone is acting up say "!ops"
[06:58] <sethk> Agrajag, or, what is it doing wrong?
[06:58] <Agrajag> it's doing nothing but eat cpu cycles and memory
[06:58] <rohan> its says it is not a tar.gz archive