[12:04] <DaSkreech> The bugzilla at ubuntu is divorced from bugzilla.org correct?
[12:05] <DaSkreech> A login there doesn't work here
[12:05] <raphink> yes DaSkreech I think so
[12:05] <kkathman> DaSkreech: yes
[12:05] <DaSkreech> so... register?
[12:05] <raphink> DaSkreech: I guess ...
[12:05] <Xemanth^^^> Nach: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
[12:06] <thegladiator> what all are there in the panel ?
[12:06] <thegladiator> kde panel ?
[12:06] <thegladiator> K Menu Knqueror kontact and ?
[12:06] <thegladiator> the last one is missing
[12:06] <thegladiator> i removed it
[12:06] <thegladiator> whats name of that thing...to go to  home , trash root etc ?
[12:06] <raphink> if you mean by default in the bar, the last one is the system menu
[12:07] <thegladiator> how do I add it ?
[12:07] <thegladiator> thats it
[12:07] <thegladiator> how to I add it ?
[12:07] <thegladiator> thanks
[12:08] <thegladiator> found out
[12:08] <raphink> good
[12:09] <sas171> kkathman: it didnt work (
[12:10] <sas171> and now i have printer settings dialog hang in the background
[12:10] <sas171> not anymore
[12:11] <Patry> is there anything I can do to make the sound work on my computer? I just installed Kubuntu and it doesn't seem to work
[12:13] <sas171> how to nake a screenshot?
[12:13] <sas171> *make
[12:15] <sas171> ok, is there no way to make screenshot under kde? )
[12:15] <Patry> KSnapShot...
[12:16] <sas171> Patry: oh, thank you
[12:17] <DaSkreech> bugzilla.ubuntu.com isn't loading :-(
[12:18] <Xemanth^^^> how can i mount my usb storage if i can't see it in fdisk -l, i can see it in dmesg nicely without errors
[12:19] <lwizardl> what distro is kubuntu based on
[12:19] <sas171> lwizardl: ubuntu - debian
[12:19] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: bugzilla is opening here....
[12:19] <Xemanth^^^> sb-storage: device found at 7
[12:19] <Xemanth^^^> usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[12:19] <Xemanth^^^>   Vendor: Maxtor    Model: 6L250R0           Rev: BAH4
[12:19] <Xemanth^^^>   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
[12:19] <Xemanth^^^> usb-storage: device scan complete
[12:19] <Xemanth^^^> root@5024wlmi:~#
[12:19] <Xemanth^^^> ups
[12:20] <Xemanth^^^> meant to paste pastebin url ^^
[12:20] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[12:20] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:20] <DaSkreech> ok Do it from home
[12:20] <Xemanth^^^> how can i mount that hdd :| i can't see it in fdisk -l
[12:22] <Lord_Athur> I've got any problems mounting a file look at it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6471
[12:22] <sas171> kkathman: would you mind if I asked you to see that screenshot http://3048.is3.ntz.de/sas/snapshot1.png and help with admin mode issue? the sollution you suggested before didnt work =(
[12:23] <Hobbsee> Lord_Athur: try taking out the space between -t and ex2
[12:23] <Hobbsee> *ext2
[12:23] <Lord_Athur> ok
[12:23] <sas171> kkathman: oh, sorry, no need
[12:24] <sas171> kkathman: thank you ^^
[12:26] <Lord_Athur> HEY I've got any problems mounting a file look at it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6471
[12:26] <Patry> how come my sound isn't working?
[12:27] <Xemanth^^^> Patry: check that arts ain't blocking your sound
[12:27] <Patry> how?
[12:27] <Xemanth^^^> it depends how your sound doesn't work
[12:28] <johnflux> Patry: killall artsd;        run 'artsd' again when finished testing
[12:28] <Xemanth^^^> i have problem to mount my hdd, so that i could watch porn
[12:28] <Patry> well it's simply doesn't work
[12:28] <Patry> no sound at all, no ping, nothing
[12:28] <johnflux> Xemanth^^^: cool.  what porn do you have
[12:28] <johnflux> Xemanth^^^: jk
[12:28] <slow-motion> n8
[12:31] <Xemanth^^^> johnflux: mainly jenna stuff :P
[12:32] <Xemanth^^^> johnflux: lesb vids :>
[12:32] <johnflux> jenna?
[12:32] <Xemanth^^^> johnflux: but i have all on my lacie usb hdd, but i can't mount that thingie, i can see it in dmesg but not in fdisk -l
[12:32] <Xemanth^^^> johnflux: jenna jameson ^^
[12:33] <johnflux> Xemanth^^^: i just plugged in a usb hdd, and konqueror opened up a window for it straight away
[12:36] <Lord_Athur> Ive got any problems mounting a file look at it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6471
[12:37] <Xemanth^^^> johnflux: damn
[12:38] <visik7> initrd is not ext2
[12:38] <Lord_Athur> then what type of file is it?
[12:38] <visik7> I think is cramfs
[12:39] <visik7> or something like that
[12:39] <orugo> hola
[12:40] <Lord_Athur> orugo, este canal es para hablantes de ingls
[12:40] <Lord_Athur> visik7, how can I know it?
[12:41] <johnflux> visik7: i think it's a custom ramdisk filesystem
[12:43] <dabeej> how do you change the default browser in kde
[12:43] <dabeej> nevermind
[12:44] <johnflux> dabeej: it's in kcontrol, incase you didn't find it
[12:51] <sp0la> whats that feature in kwrite when you press f7 (a command prompt? its not a shell)? its not mentioned in the manual
[12:51] <dabeej> johnflux: what does your entry look like
[12:51] <dabeej> or do you just use konqeror
[12:52] <dabeej> firefox  right?
[12:52] <nyrco> hello everybody
[12:52] <dabeej> firefox "  " right?
[12:52] <dabeej> percent U is underline
[12:52] <dabeej> heh
[12:54] <Delvien> I forgot... lol what package do i need to install to use RAR files
[12:54] <Hobbsee> sp0la: type a letter after hitting f7 - it becomes fairly obvious..but it certainly should be in the manual!
[12:54] <Hobbsee> !rar
[12:54] <ubotu> I guess rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[12:56] <sp0la> Hobbsee, whatever i enter, i get "this command does not exist: ..."
[12:56] <Hobbsee> just type one letter - like f, adn you see find should pop up
[12:57] <rubem> hi there
[12:57] <rubem> i've just done apt-get upgrade now
[12:57] <sp0la> Hobbsee hmm looks promising
[12:57] <rubem> but only security updates was upgraded
[12:58] <rubem> i wish to upgrade do KDE 3.5... :(
[12:58] <rubem> how can I do this?
[12:58] <sampan> rubem, you can start by reading the topic?!
[12:58] <rubem> ??
[12:58] <kinfo> i don't understand.
[12:59] <sampan> there's a url in the channel topic -- click it to read about how to get kde 3.5
[12:59] <rubem> sampan, speak clearly?
[12:59] <Hobbsee> !tell rubem about kde3.5
[12:59] <rubem> hum???
[12:59] <Hobbsee> see your private message rubem
[01:00] <lwizardl> can someone tell me what "cdrecord device (n,n,n or filename)" do i need to place in this to setup this correctly
[01:02] <rubem> GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release :(
[01:03] <bimberi> !gpgerr
[01:03] <ubotu> hmm... gpgerr is a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal
[01:03] <Hobbsee> rubem: follow the instructions on that page - you need the key
[01:04] <bimberi> rubem: sorry, ignore the ubotu factoid I raised - i didn't read the posts carefully enough
[01:05] <rubem> ???
[01:06] <Hobbsee> rubem: see http://tinyurl.com/dlrf9 and follow all the instructions on there
[01:06] <Hobbsee> then the error will go away
[01:07] <rubem> anyone have managed to update amsn?
[01:24] <Lord_Athur> hola
[01:24] <Lord_Athur> hi
[01:26] <NavyGm> can kubuntu be installed on a Pentium 133Mhz, 128mb ram?  does it work?
[01:26] <Lord_Athur> as server
[01:26] <Lord_Athur> :D
[01:26] <xwolf-> lol
[01:27] <NavyGm> what do u mean as server?
[01:27] <xwolf-> NavyGm seems the kde interface will be a bit heavy for your system
[01:27] <xwolf-> afk now
[01:28] <NavyGm> ic...10x then :)
[01:28] <nekostar> hmm
[01:28] <nekostar> Could not start process Cannot talk to klauncher. <<-- new error...
[01:28] <nekostar> whats that supposed to mean anyway??
[01:28] <nekostar> i run gnome not kubuntu and ust have a couple kde stuffzorz in
[01:29] <NavyGm> so gnome is the same?
[01:34] <nekostar> gnome isnt really light....
[01:34] <nekostar> you might try openbox
[01:34] <Hobbsee> xfce is nice and light, too
[01:34] <nekostar> ya that might do the trick
[01:34] <nekostar> easier to try than the openbox though there are some good guides in the forums
[01:35] <NavyGm> so xfce is the best for that type of pc?
[01:37] <bimberi> NavyGm: it would be better than KDE or Gnome - have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[01:37] <stefano> hi there. guys how am i supposed to mount a mounted multimediacard with fat-filesystem?
[01:37] <stefano> lol
[01:37] <stefano> i mean to format not to mount
[01:37] <stefano> what a kewl sentence
[01:37] <NavyGm> thanks for ur help
[01:38] <prul> stefano: man mkfs.vfat
[01:38] <stefano> im gonna have a look. thank you
[01:39] <Lord_Athur> where can I find information about the bootsplash in livecds?
[01:40] <kkathman> Lord_Athur: what exactly are you looking for?
[01:41] <Lord_Athur> I want to change the bootsplash of a livecd Ginsu_Squirrel
[01:41] <Lord_Athur> I want to change the bootsplash of a livecd kkathman
[01:41] <Lord_Athur> :D
[01:42] <kkathman> Lord_Athur: in regular booting thats found in the /etc/rc3.d directorion under usplash...something similar is probably on the LiveCD I reckon
[01:42] <kkathman> directory
[01:42] <kkathman> I think its like S98usplash or something
[01:43] <stefano> prul: this does not work appearently
[01:43] <stefano> mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb1
[01:43] <stefano> i ran  mkfs.vfat -n DCIM /dev/sdb1
[01:43] <stefano> and i ran umount before
[01:45] <prul> mmm
[01:46] <prul> are you logged in as root?
[01:46] <stefano> no =)
[01:46] <stefano> oh my
[01:46] <stefano> ran it as sudo and it didnt produce an error
[01:47] <stefano> (have to climb under the desk to replug it so that it is going to be mounted again)
[01:47] <stefano> but it ran damn fast
[01:48] <stefano> man it worked
[01:48] <stefano> thanks a lot
[02:01] <johnflux> which is the bot?
[02:01] <johnflux> aabot ?
[02:01] <Hobbsee> johnflux: ubotu
[02:01] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell johnflux about ubotu
[02:01] <johnflux> ah thanks
[02:07] <nekostar>  ubotu: tell nekostar  about ubotu
[02:07] <Lord_Athur> re
[02:12] <johnflux> update-alternatives   doesn't link g++-4.0  to g++
[02:12] <johnflux> or even question about it
[02:12] <johnflux> is this a bug?
[02:14] <robotgeek> johnflux: hmm,usualyy you let the ./configure scripts to handle that
[02:31] <visik7> how can I change the theme of kdm ?
[02:37] <arafat> visik7: settings > appearance & themes > splash screen
[02:37] <visik7> arafat: of kdm
[02:37] <visik7> not of kde
[02:38] <arafat> oh...dunno! sorry!:-)
[02:39] <angasule_> is anybody else having trouble using hotmail with konqueror? I can't open emails
[02:40] <visik7> get freepops and open using kmail
[02:47] <sas171> hi, is there some tool for configuring /etc/interfaces? or some howto...
[02:48] <_chris> In konqueror how do you get icons for different view modes (view as list, icon, details)?
[02:48] <sas171> _chris: view->view mode
[02:49] <veeKeeng> sas171, you can use konsole and ifconfig
[02:50] <_chris> sas171, I'm "Configuring Toolbars" in konqueror. I'm having trouble finding that option
[02:50] <sas171> veeKeeng: Im not familliar with the network configuration, I just want bring my pppoe connection up...
[02:51] <veeKeeng> are you connected to a modem/router? are you in a lan?
[02:52] <sas171> veeKeeng: I have dsl modem throw ethernet
[02:52] <veeKeeng> hmm...never tried before, I'm in a lan, however kppp should do the work
[02:53] <sas171> I ran pppoeconf but every time im rebooting the system i have to pppoeconf again, so I think my interface file is not valid
[02:53] <visik7> how can I change the theme of kdm ??
[02:53] <jorik> does kde have and equivalent of gdesklets ?
[02:53] <_chris> jorik, Superkaramaba
[02:54] <_chris> *superkaramba
[02:54] <veeKeeng> i found out there's a known bug about remembering some kind of settings
[02:54] <veeKeeng> i had the same problem with my gateway....
[02:54] <veeKeeng> each time i rebooted i had to set it
[02:55] <jkop_> cu
[02:55] <sas171> veeKeeng: it was a bug in pppoeconf but now its fixd
[02:56] <veeKeeng> so that's not your problem...hmm...
[02:56] <veeKeeng> did you look in ubuntu's wiki and forums?
[02:57] <sas171> veeKeeng: somebody on this room said me the whole problem is my /etc/interfaces and i have to write it from scratch...
[02:57] <sas171> yes i did
[02:57] <veeKeeng> sorry...I can't help you, I've never opened kppp
[02:58] <sas171> np
[02:58] <veeKeeng> however, try to post your /etc/interfaces
[02:58] <sas171> its empty now, ill allready tried to do somthing with it
[02:59] <sas171> *i allready...
[03:01] <kairu0> hi all
[03:01] <sas171> halla
[03:01] <kairu0> whats up sas
[03:01] <veeKeeng> instead i'm unsuccesfully trying to upgrade to kde 3.5 and to install firefox 1.5
[03:02] <kairu0> firefox 1.5 is much faster
[03:02] <sas171> kairu0: do you know how to configure /etc/ntwork/interfaces
[03:02] <kairu0> sas171, i've done it before
[03:02] <sas171> yeah!
[03:02] <veeKeeng> :)
[03:03] <sas171> kairu0: would you tell me how to do this? this manual is to complicated...
[03:03] <veeKeeng> you should have there your nic config
[03:03] <kairu0> sas171, are you trying to add an interface to it?
[03:03] <sas171> kairu0: i have to write it from scratch
[03:04] <sas171> I want to bring my eth1 to work with pppoe connection....
[03:04] <kairu0> i've never done pppoe
[03:04] <kairu0> i have a wired ethernet and wireless, WEP ethernet in my config
[03:05] <sas171> kairu0: I think ist ok.. i can do it. the question is, how can I add my eth1?
[03:07] <kairu0> sas171 take a look at this example:
[03:07] <kairu0> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/user-bering/bupppoe.html#id3020899
[03:07] <veeKeeng> while kairu0 and sas171 work at ppp, can someone help me in upgrading firefox and kde? :)
[03:08] <Hobbsee> !tell veeKeeng about kde3.5
[03:08] <Hobbsee> !tell veeKeeng about firefox1.5
[03:09] <veeKeeng> thank you! :)
[03:09] <kairu0> veeKeeng, this article tells you how to get firefox1.5: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/45917/
[03:09] <kairu0> i gotta run
[03:09] <kairu0> good luck all
[03:10] <sas171> veeKeeng: allready seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion ?
[03:10] <veeKeeng> yes, but I had problems
[03:11] <veeKeeng> I'll do the last try for tonight
[03:14] <Lord_Athur> re
[03:15] <hunjord> hello
[03:15] <hunjord> i'm using kubuntu
[03:16] <hunjord> because it is a simple distro
[03:17] <sas171> hunjord: thanks for the info =)
[03:17] <Lord_Athur> :D
[03:18] <Lord_Athur> how can I mount a squashfs file?
[03:19] <hunjord> and i'm having troubles
[03:19] <hunjord> ark doesn't uncompress rar files
[03:19] <veeKeeng> I don't know why...now I have back my FF 1.07
[03:19] <veeKeeng> well...I'll take a closer look tomorrow
[03:19] <veeKeeng> thanks anyway
[03:19] <sas171> veeKeeng: you have to use unrar in Konsole
[03:20] <veeKeeng> we'll see :P
[03:20] <sas171> =)
[03:20] <veeKeeng> bye
[03:20] <sas171> bb
[03:21] <_christian>
[03:22] <_christian> weird...
[03:22] <sas171>
[03:32] <NPC_Crys> 'lo all.
[03:45] <fatejudger> damnit, what is up with Konqueror?
[03:45] <fatejudger> it's constantly crashing now
[03:46] <fatejudger> isn't there some update?
[03:47] <NPC_Crys> Hey, how do I get divx files working.
[03:53] <sas171> NPC_Crys: smoke wiki - restricted formats
[03:59] <Ravensky> my friend is trying to set up SSH on his comp...where can he find the thing to install the SSHd?
[03:59] <crimsun> Ravensky: openssh-server
[03:59] <Ravensky> thanks
[04:03] <Ravensky> where does it install it to?
[04:03] <Ravensky> not the standard /etc/init.d/sshd?
[04:03] <fatejudger> !kaffeien
[04:03] <ubotu> fatejudger: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[04:03] <fatejudger> !kaffeine
[04:03] <ubotu> fatejudger: I don't know
[04:04] <fatejudger> what the heck, where is the 0.7.1 Kaffeine package?
[04:04] <Ravensky> anyone know where openssh-server installs the actual file to start the thing?
[04:04] <apokryphos> !listvalues kaffeine
[04:04] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'kaffeine' by value (1 shown): kaffeineprob.
[04:04] <apokryphos> !kaffeineprob
[04:04] <ubotu> kaffeineprob is probably at http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#probkaffeine
[04:05] <apokryphos> well, that's not it.
[04:17] <NPC_Crys> Whoo! Divx is up!
[04:17] <NPC_Crys> I heart kubuntu!
[04:17] <NPC_Crys> What else do I need for this computer to make my family give up windows?
[04:18] <Hobbsee> NPC_Crys: gparted :P
[04:18] <workingmansdead> im having a problem with an ssh remote log in. any help? im getting a fail notice in konsole after typing /etc/init.d/ssh start
[04:19] <NPC_Crys> is gparted gonna gimme crap cuz of the kde?
[04:20] <MrClever> NPC_Crys: not if you have GTK installed....you could use qtparted too which is native to KDE/Qt
[04:20] <Hobbsee> NPC_Crys: i was more joking - you know what gparted is,  i take it?
[04:20] <MrClever> Partition manager right?
[04:20] <apokryphos> yup
[04:20] <Hobbsee> yeah
[04:21] <Hobbsee> which is kinda useful to get rid of windows :P
[04:21] <Hobbsee> sorry, i'm in a weird mood today...
[04:21] <MrClever> Yeh - but if you don't have GTK (al la "pure" KDE install) then qtparted would be another choice.
[04:22] <NPC_Crys> I know what gparted is.
[04:22] <NPC_Crys> I didn't catch the joke though.
[04:23] <Hobbsee> well, to make them give up windows, there's nothing stoping you removing it, and then saying "oh, you cant have that" - i would have thought that would be fairly effective
[04:23] <Hobbsee> sorry, i have a really weird sense of humour today....
[04:24] <NPC_Crys> That's fine. I was really just asking because I want to dual boot the system and get them to keep linux on all the time.
[04:25] <Hobbsee> ah yes - make sure that linux is booted to default
[04:25] <NPC_Crys> Man,you're right. Your sense of humor is off.
[04:25] <Hobbsee> er, do i mean the other way around?  that if there's no user input, grub boots to linux, and not windows
[04:26] <nekostar> anyone know about h264 codecs on linux?
[04:27] <NPC_Crys> If I edit samba.conf by hand, will the kde manager of the samba file still work correctly?
[04:27] <MrClever> NPC_Crys: yes
[04:27] <NPC_Crys> beautiful.
[04:27] <NPC_Crys> Although, the kde wizard did work beautifully.
[04:28] <NPC_Crys> I just need to add the printer manually.
[04:28] <NPC_Crys> So how about these adobe print drivers? What's that about?
[04:28] <MrClever> Adobe drivers?  You mean PostScript drivers I assume?
[04:29] <NPC_Crys> Thats the one! Adobe generic postscript drivers for cupsys
[04:29] <NPC_Crys> At least, I think.
[04:32] <NPC_Crys> No clue?
[04:34] <NPC_Crys> Okay, well it says I need those or I can't export drivers to windows.
[04:35] <NPC_Crys> I need to make it so that linux will store and share windows drivers for my printer.
[04:36] <NPC_Crys> nm
[04:38] <MrClever> NPC_Crys: sorry - busy on another chan.  There's a whole how-to on sharing printer drivers, and it's always a bit painful.
[04:42] <cameron> hello
[04:42] <Hobbsee> hi cameron
[04:42] <cameron> I'm completely new to irc, so forgive me
[04:42] <Adross> when i tried kubuntu, i enabled an option via kontrol panel that set a default that all gtk apps would start up in the clearlooks theme. Upon returning to gnome, to my horror, all my themes in there were clearlooks. Even in changing the themes, certain elements of clearlooks remain in each theme. How can I undo the settings kubuntu made?
[04:43] <apokryphos> sounds horrific ;-)
[04:43] <NPC_Crys> I don't like painful.
[04:43] <Adross> heh
[04:43] <apokryphos> known bug with gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[04:43] <apokryphos> Adross: solution: disable the option in kcontrol
[04:43] <NPC_Crys> jesus! does /list always taake forever?
[04:43] <Adross> apokryphos: tried that
[04:43] <cameron> here's a question from a newbie. How do I make firefox look better with kde? It looks very bland in kde compared to gnome
[04:44] <apokryphos> NPC_Crys: yes, think about w hat it's doing 8)
[04:44] <Hobbsee> NPC_Crys: yes, why were you silly enough to do it?
[04:44] <apokryphos> Adross: and it didn't help? Try uninstall that package then
[04:44] <MrClever> NPC_Crys: it's not a big deal really, it's just you need be very specific about what and how you store the drivers in the samba share otherwise Windows clients will ignore them.
[04:44] <Adross> apokryphos: that didn't work either
[04:44] <apokryphos> :/
[04:44] <Adross> nor did reinstalling ubuntu(did that for another reason)
[04:44] <apokryphos> Adross: check on bugzilla and see if there's been any resolutions there
[04:45] <Adross> which tells me its my /home partition
[04:45] <cameron> This must be where the experts hang out
[04:45] <NPC_Crys> MrClever: I just can't find these magical postcript drivers.
[04:45] <apokryphos> Adross: must be inside a gnome setting, I'd presume, then
[04:45] <apokryphos> Adross: changing the theme from gnome doesn't help?
[04:46] <Adross> apokryphos: nope
[04:46] <Adross> kde doesn't reconginse a lot of my themes from gnome, so i can't just set it to my theme in kde
[04:46] <_stone> #kubuntu-es
[04:47] <apokryphos> Adross: then check bugzilla, and if not try improvise with altering/moving things like .gnome
[04:47] <NPC_Crys> Hobbsee: I wanted to search tfor the cupsys channel if there is one. I now have no doubt that there is. There is probably a #Iwanttodancenakedonhitlersgrave room.
[04:47] <_stone> para los que hablan espa;ol
[04:47] <Adross> hmm
[04:47] <NPC_Crys> There's probably a room hosted by god!
[04:47] <Adross> thanks
[04:47] <Adross> cheerio
[04:47] <MrClever> NPC_Crys: go to "linuxprinting.org" and search for your printer model.  Download the ".ppd" file.
[04:47] <MrClever> NPC_Crys: ppd = PostScript Printer Defenition IIRC
[04:48] <NPC_Crys> Yes sir.
[04:48] <MrClever> :P
[04:50] <NPC_Crys> This is a really comprehensive printer listing.
[04:51] <NPC_Crys> so this ppd:What to do with it?
[04:51] <NPC_Crys> Open?
[04:51] <NPC_Crys> Save to specific folder?
[04:52] <MrClever> NPC_Crys: install it to cups :)
[04:53] <MrClever> NPC_Crys: then the windows folk can just throw raw PostScript at it and cups will do all the magic for you :)
[04:54] <MrClever> brb - food
[04:54] <NPC_Crys> Okay, but what does that mean?
[04:55] <NPC_Crys> If I have the driver for windows, can I use that instead?
[04:55] <NPC_Crys> I have to stop for now. I'm fried.
[04:56] <Hobbsee> NPC_Crys: lol
[04:56] <NPC_Crys> I've been hacking this bird all day.
[04:57] <NPC_Crys> Adding games and amule and multiverse and lame and audacity and all that.
[04:58] <MrClever> okies
[04:58] <NPC_Crys> is flaac the same as faac?
[04:58] <NPC_Crys> flac=faac?
[04:59] <MrClever> dunno - I'm not really up to speed on all the different codecs. :(
[05:08] <dark_suic> i'm having a problem trying to install ktorrent from svn. When doing make -f Makefile.cvs i get an error telling autoconf is not installed, but it is... anyone knows if this is a reported bug or something?
[05:12] <Hobbsee> dark_suic: well, is autoconf installed?
[05:14] <Hobbsee> hate to sound like a moron, but it's probably a question worth asking
[05:14] <dark_suic> Hobbsee, it is installed (i said it :P)
[05:15] <Hobbsee> oops...missed that
[05:15] <dark_suic> (sorry if it wasn't understood, i'm not english :P)
[05:15] <dark_suic> although i've seen lots of people asking that kind of questions too in spanish kubuntu channel :P
[05:15] <Hobbsee> hehe true
[05:16] <Hobbsee> so sudo apt-get install autoconf says it's already installed?
[05:16] <dark_suic> yep
[05:16] <dark_suic> and the same error appears
[05:16] <Hobbsee> i wonder which version of autoconf it wants...
[05:16] <dark_suic> 2.53, and i've installed 2.59
[05:16] <dark_suic> xD
[05:16] <dark_suic> tested it too :P
[05:17] <Hobbsee> very weird...
[05:17] <dark_suic> i've tried to change the makefile so it doesn't compare autoconf versions, but then autoheader gave the same problem :P
[05:17] <dark_suic> yep
[05:17] <dark_suic> i think i will try just to download sources and ./configure them...
[05:17] <dark_suic> just hope they work :P
[05:18] <Hobbsee> might be an idea
[05:39] <oknewbie> hello
[05:42] <dark_suic> wow... 4 google runs and about 100 packages installed just to ./configure ktorrent...
[05:43] <dark_suic> hope make and make install won't make me suffer so much xD
[05:44] <kalenedrael> O.o
[05:46] <dark_suic> first googlerun and install for make xD
[05:47] <dark_suic> i'm thinking to make a guide with all packages needed to install ktorrent from a clean kubuntu install
[05:49] <dark_suic> no more problems!!!!!
[05:50] <dark_suic> ktorrent running :)
[05:52] <seth_k|lappy> erm, why not just call apt-get --build-dep ktorrent, dark_suic
[05:52] <seth_k|lappy> that'll get all the build-dependencies for you
[05:54] <dark_suic> just starting in this kind of things...
[05:54] <dark_suic> that works for installing from sources?
[05:55] <dark_suic> ok, i've seen...
[05:55] <dark_suic> just didn't know that... Thanks seth_k|lappy  :)
[05:55] <seth_k|lappy> no worries
[05:55] <dark_suic> (i'll repeat myself 100 thousand times to man apt-get before trying that kind of things xD)
[05:56] <seth_k|lappy> dark_suic, apt-get --source -b ktorrent would build ktorrent from source for you.
[05:56] <seth_k|lappy> after you've run apt-get --build-dep ktorrent to get the proper build-deps.
[05:56] <dark_suic> O__O
[05:57] <dark_suic> well, i've installed it via ./configure && make && make install
[05:57] <seth_k|lappy> ew
[05:57] <dark_suic> but now i know for the next time :)
[05:57] <dark_suic> i'll make a guide anyway with that commands because i probably won't remember that next time :P
[05:57] <dark_suic> real thanks... errrrr man?
[06:03] <stevenj> I am a little new to kubuntu; however, I have read a lot already.  question is is it safe to add KDE 3.5+Amarok 1.3.7 Repo and is it kind of safe to add backports? thanks!
[06:04] <stevenj> actually I have added all to repo list, I just have not upgraded yet
[06:05] <crimsun> as long as you only add the kubuntu.org repos, yes.
[06:05] <crimsun> they're official
[06:06] <crimsun> and of course archive.ubuntu.com is official, too
[06:06] <stevenj> the only two "official" kubuntu repos I see is the ones I mentioned, otherwise its the same as 5.10 ubuntu.  correct?
[06:07] <crimsun> if you're referring to ones seen on the kubuntu.org Web site, yes
[06:07] <stevenj> yes, thanks
[06:08] <stevenj> I read about some packages been held back when upgrading KDE 3.5, is this true?
[06:09] <crimsun> I don't know; I don't run 5.10 (I run 6.04)
[06:09] <stevenj> I see, I dont really know how to "fix" things so I dont.
[06:11] <stevenj> one last thing, if you dont mind, the Kwallet thing, sort of annoying in a way; however, I guess security is good.  But how do I make it where the wallet does'nt pop up all the time, ie, kotope, adept.  I have to run adept twice because of it and kotope does automatically start
[06:12] <stevenj> kotope does not
[06:14] <Hobbsee> stevenj: there's a section on it in kcontrol
[06:14] <crimsun> on the systems I've used, I simply told kwallet...
[06:14] <crimsun> right.
[06:14] <Hobbsee> security and privacy, kde wallet, uncheck the "enable" box
[06:15] <stevenj> thanks
[06:15] <Hobbsee> no problems
[06:16] <modifiedloser> can someone point me in the right direction for info on the package manager, like if I wanted to install the ubuntu package of mplayer, how I would do that
[06:16] <modifiedloser> i've googled with no luck
[06:17] <dark_suic> what info do you need?
[06:17] <stevenj> everything else is kinda cool...I have been using gnome for about 3 months and KDE seems so much better.  Konquorer is kinda strange though as a web browser
[06:17] <modifiedloser> well, I found the ubuntu package of mplayer, but don't know what to do with it
[06:17] <dark_suic> u using adept?
[06:17] <dark_suic> just right click, install package
[06:17] <modifiedloser> yes
[06:18] <dark_suic> and then, at the top of the app, apply changes (i think it's called this way :P)
[06:18] <modifiedloser> mplayer isn't listed in adept, I had to go and download the file
[06:18] <dark_suic> O__o
[06:18] <dark_suic> sure it isn't?
[06:18] <modifiedloser> wasn't for me
[06:19] <dark_suic> u downloaded a .deb file?
[06:19] <modifiedloser> yes
[06:19] <dark_suic> then
[06:19] <dark_suic> command line is your friend :)
[06:19] <dark_suic> cd to the download path
[06:19] <Hobbsee> !deb
[06:19] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[06:19] <dark_suic> and dpkg -i file.deb (where file.deb is that :))
[06:19] <dark_suic> ...
[06:20] <modifiedloser> and thats it?
[06:20] <modifiedloser> will that auto install other required packages
[06:20] <modifiedloser> I can't play mpegs on kaffiene or what ever
[06:20] <ubuntu_> hi
[06:21] <phin> im using the dapper livecd, is it possible for me to get it to save my settings to my ntfs drive so i can reload them at a later time?
[06:21] <dark_suic> modifiedloser, have you installed kaffeine-xine?
[06:22] <mr-russ> phin: highly unlikely the NTFS driver isn't safe for ntfs write.
[06:22] <mr-russ> phin: better off with a USB key.
[06:22] <phin> dont have that
[06:22] <mr-russ> phin: make a fat parition?
[06:23] <phin> ya i can do that
[06:23] <modifiedloser> no I haven't
[06:23] <modifiedloser> i gotta say I'm not thrilled about kubuntus package list, is it going to grow into what gentoo has?
[06:23] <mr-russ> well it was intereting setting up Kubuntu today :)
[06:23] <mr-russ> modifiedloser: what do you mean?
[06:23] <modifiedloser> half the stuff i want isn't listed
[06:23] <mr-russ> like?
[06:23] <modifiedloser> which for me, defeats the purpouse of it
[06:24] <modifiedloser> mplayer, and nvu for two
[06:24] <modifiedloser> I like the rest of the systemt hough
[06:24] <mr-russ> enable universe in adept
[06:24] <modifiedloser> how?
[06:24] <dark_suic> modifiedloser, file->manage repositories
[06:24] <dark_suic> and right click on commented deb lines and then click enable...
[06:25] <dark_suic> i DO have mplayer listed...
[06:25] <modifiedloser> hmmm
[06:25] <modifiedloser> enable all of them
[06:25] <modifiedloser> ?
[06:25] <mr-russ> only 17316 packages to choose from.
[06:25] <dark_suic> yeah!
[06:25] <mr-russ> modifiedloser: no. just the universe ones.
[06:26] <mr-russ> I wouldn't add the backports unless you are happy to manage breakages.
[06:26] <modifiedloser> I enabled them, and still only have 4092 packages available
[06:27] <mr-russ> update
[06:27] <mr-russ> fetch updates button
[06:27] <modifiedloser> man i'm thinking like a newb
[06:27] <mr-russ> that's why we are treating you like one :)
[06:27] <modifiedloser> linux user for 5 years, gentoo the last year
[06:27] <modifiedloser> just don't look like it right now
[06:27] <modifiedloser> lol
[06:28] <Hobbsee> modifiedloser: why did you get a mplayer deb, when it was in the repositories?
[06:28] <phin> mr-russ: ok i have a fat32 partition, how do i make that my home dir?
[06:28] <modifiedloser> read more
[06:28] <mr-russ> phin: from the live cd?
[06:28] <phin> yesa
[06:29] <Hobbsee> modifiedloser: it was in multiverse, i take it
[06:29] <modifiedloser> alright, i've done everything you've said, and still only have 4092 packages listed
[06:29] <mr-russ> you can't permanently, you'd have to do it each time the livecd loaded.
[06:29] <phin> ah
[06:29] <phin> :-\
[06:29] <mr-russ> modifiedloser: I bet you didn't click apply after you enabled those lines.
[06:30] <modifiedloser> right you where
[06:30] <modifiedloser> *hangs head*
[06:30] <mr-russ> modifiedloser: adept is a bit brain dead for usability in the repositories respect.
[06:30] <modifiedloser> I'm just so use to portage from command line
[06:30] <modifiedloser> alright it worked
[06:31] <modifiedloser> 17316 packages
[06:31] <modifiedloser> thanx
[06:31] <mr-russ> modifiedloser: if you are used to portage.
[06:31] <modifiedloser> still no mplayer though?
[06:31] <mr-russ> apt-cache search == emerge -s
[06:31] <Hobbsee> !+multiverse
[06:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[06:31] <modifiedloser> ok
[06:31] <mr-russ> apt-get install == emerge
[06:32] <Hobbsee> modifiedloser: use the sources list from there if you arent already
[06:32] <modifiedloser> good to know
[06:32] <dark_suic> modifiedloser, you should add multiverse repositories the same way you added universe
[06:32] <modifiedloser> doing that now
[06:33] <modifiedloser> its killing me, now all that comes up is a mozilla-mplayer plugin
[06:33] <modifiedloser> closer at least
[06:33] <dark_suic> yep
[06:33] <modifiedloser> nvu is listed though
[06:34] <modifiedloser> i'm loving everything else about kubunut, I was looking for an easier to maintain system for home use
[06:35] <modifiedloser> I was shocked it found my scanner and set it up, i've never even bothered to do that, lol
[06:35] <mr-russ> modifiedloser: I run a number of gentoo boxes, they become unmaintainable on a large scale.
[06:35] <mr-russ> modifiedloser: and debian is, well always OLD>
[06:36] <modifiedloser> lol
[06:36] <modifiedloser> I'm just too busy to mess with advanced ones anymore, and the need isn't really there either
[06:36] <mr-russ> plus I'm sick of working hard to make things happen.  Plug my USB key into ubuntu and it works, install it on my laptop, it just works.
[06:36] <modifiedloser> exactly what I was looking for
[06:37] <dark_suic> :)
[06:37] <dark_suic> same here...
[06:37] <dark_suic> but talking about laptops
[06:37] <dark_suic> ....
[06:37] <dark_suic> i have an acer laptop
[06:37] <mr-russ> the biggest pain I've had so far it attempting to get all the devel tools I need installed.
[06:37] <modifiedloser> well, I can't seem to get mplayer installed
[06:38] <modifiedloser> is there a trick to getting kaffiene to play mpegs
[06:38] <dark_suic> when installing kubuntu the DHCP can't resolve... (connecting via ehternet -> switch -> cable-modem) and i can not use ethernet card once it's installed (the card appears, and is up, but no connection to other computers in the lan)
[06:39] <dark_suic> modifiedloser,
[06:39] <dark_suic> try
[06:39] <dark_suic> w32codecs
[06:39] <dark_suic> package i mean :)
[06:39] <mr-russ> dark_suic: and when you hit enable, it enables, then disables?
[06:39] <modifiedloser> nothing comes up
[06:40] <dark_suic> mr-russ, happened some time, but i realized that hitting apply it enabled and won't disable
[06:40] <dark_suic> with the card enabled, i'm unable to ping another lan pc
[06:40] <mr-russ> dark_suic: I had a problem where dhclient wasn't started as I didn't configure that interface at install time.
[06:40] <dark_suic> aham :)
[06:41] <dark_suic> i'll try it tomorrow...
[06:41] <dark_suic> but when i manage to enable the card
[06:41] <dark_suic> i cannot ping any machine on the lan (3 computers, mine acting as server, laptop as lan client)
[06:41] <dark_suic> but in win2k lan works (so it shouldn't be laptop hardware problem)
[06:43] <dark_suic> well, will try that tomorrow morning, it's 6:40 am here :P
[06:43] <dark_suic> see you and thanks for all
[06:45] <modifiedloser> i've got xmms playing mpegs for now I guess
[06:45] <us> has anyone here played the knights chess program?
[06:45] <us> I am having a bit of trouble with it.
[06:45] <dark_suic> modifiedloser, you can try vlc, i've liked it quite more than mplayer :)
[06:45] <modifiedloser> i'll check it out
[06:45] <modifiedloser> thanx
[06:46] <dark_suic> :)
[06:46] <dark_suic> see you all
[07:15] <stevenj> When upgrading to KDE 3.5 I did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but many dependancies were missing and got a return error code, then I had to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f   Is this because I upgraded with backports on first? Is this normal?
[07:18] <mr-russ> stevenj: were you upgrading to dapper test?
[07:21] <stevenj> mr-russ, I don't think so, I just installed clean, then edited repo to list all "official" and universe/multiuniverse + backports/unvi etc., then dist-upgrade (it upgrade some KDE stuff) then I added KDE 3.5 "official" dep and if I just did upgrade it held back some packages so I dist-upgrade (that removed some) then I got errors then I dist-upgrade -f (it removed some more/upgraded/and installed some) no errors :)
[07:21] <stevenj> sorry so long
[07:22] <stevenj> does that make sense?
[07:22] <mr-russ> possibly kde 3.5 dependencies are different, not sure to what extent thought.
[07:22] <mr-russ> in and out...
[07:23] <stevenj> what would be the best order to install Amorok 1.3.7 and KDE 3.5? Just leave out backports and dist-upgrade?
[07:24] <stevenj> from a clean install of Kubuntu
[07:24] <stevenj> for future installs
[07:24] <viviersf> erm
[07:24] <viviersf> stevenj,
[07:24] <viviersf> what i used is
[07:24] <viviersf> kde 3.4
[07:24] <viviersf> then i used the urls from the kubuntu site
[07:25] <viviersf> and put em into my sources.list
[07:25] <stevenj> thats what I did
[07:25] <viviersf> and i had no problems
[07:25] <viviersf> all if working 100%
[07:25] <stevenj> did you upgrade or dist-upgrade?
[07:30] <viviersf> dist
[07:30] <stevenj> I'll try that..thanks
[07:30] <stevenj> next time
[07:31] <stevenj> without backports fist
[07:31] <viviersf> lol
[07:31] <viviersf> shot
[07:34] <stevenj> thanls
[07:36] <bartel> Anyone know why my nvidia card seems so much slower on Kubuntu 5-10 than fedora core 4?
[07:37] <bartel> I user apt-get to install the nvidia drivers, and manually installed them in FC4
[07:37] <bartel> s/user/used
[07:39] <sampan> bartel did you alter your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?  there were a couple lines in there that i had to change when i installed the nvidia drivers (driver "nv" to "nvidia" and one or two others iirc)
[07:46] <mr-russ> bartel: you'd have to explain seems.
[08:27] <damnhil> what's the skype link for instaling skype?
[08:27] <damnhil> !skype
[08:27] <ubotu> [skype]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[08:45] <DjDarkman> hy ,wich kde program is for managing servicees like apache?
[09:07] <DjDarkman> wich kde program is for managing servicees like apache?
[09:18] <aftertaf> wb again
[09:18] <aftertaf> you're welcome :)
[09:18] <aftertaf> got a new job, starting monday;
[09:19] <Hobbsee> ooh fun!
[09:19] <Hobbsee> what as?
[09:19] <aftertaf> so wont be around for a bit at least....
[09:19] <aftertaf> international tech support for an in house application that manages the tracability of airbag compnents;
[09:19] <aftertaf> and some dev work too, and more if chance arises.
[09:20] <aftertaf> a compant called autoliv. automobile safety ctuff :)
[09:21] <Hobbsee> ooh fun!
[09:22] <godzero> don't get any up your nose (obscure reference?)
[09:23] <godzero> :)
[09:23] <godzero> Hey guys: Question:
[09:23] <godzero> any kde/qt coder in here>
[09:24] <Hobbsee> possibly, what were you wanting?
[09:24] <godzero> I'm a c++ noob, any help with pointing me to best practices/style guides etc
[09:26] <Tudor_b> this is about PHP
[09:26] <Tudor_b> how can install php5
[09:26] <Tudor_b> ?
[09:26] <Tudor_b> via repositories
[09:26] <Tudor_b> ...
[09:27] <Tudor_b> no ./configure...
[09:27] <Hobbsee> Tudor_b: apt-cache search php5
[09:27] <Hobbsee> see what it finds
[09:27] <Hobbsee> godzero: i'd say google, or ask in #kde
[09:28] <godzero> Hobbsee: thanks.. will try as you sugest.. just that I know you guys better.. that's all
[09:29] <Hobbsee> they dont bite...much
[09:39] <godzero> #kde is so quiet
[09:40] <nalioth> !lamp
[09:40] <ubotu> lamp is, like, totally, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:36] <emre> hi
[10:36] <emre> wie gehts
[10:36] <emre> euch?
[11:19] <thegladiator> hiya
[11:20] <thegladiator> has anyone installed DIVX player ?
[11:20] <thegladiator> nyone ?
[11:23] <crimsun> what is "DIVX player"?
[11:23] <thegladiator> www.divx.com
[11:27] <crimsun> just use kaffeine, mplayer, or vlc
[11:29] <thegladiator> crimsun, yep
[11:29] <thegladiator> wondering if DIVX as such can be used to see if there is a slight quality enahncement
[11:29] <thegladiator> which I suspect should happen
[11:29] <thegladiator> slight being the key word
[11:50] <mth`MAW> hi
[11:51] <thegladiator> can anyone recommed an elegant color scheme ?
[11:58] <Blippe> why aint amarok 1.3.5 in the repos?
[11:59] <Blippe> since they are in the kubuntu.org/packages ?
[12:06] <crimsun> Blippe: correct.
[12:06] <crimsun> Blippe: 5.10 is frozen.
[12:10] <Blippe> so either I download and install the .deb or start using the unfinished dabber?
[12:16] <bimberi> Blippe: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.5.php
[12:16] <bimberi> !amarok 1.3.7
[12:16] <ubotu> well, amarok 1.3.7 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php
[12:26] <Blippe> tnx, i was just trying to find something about putting the line deb http://kubuntu.org/packages breezy main in the sources.list and get all the packages...
[12:49] <mwe> how come everytime I log on to icq with kopete it gives me the error "you are not allowed to add yourself to the contact list"
[12:53] <crimsun> probably better asked in Kopete's irc channel.
[12:57] <sparaflescio> hi
[01:20] <_matt> Hi!
[01:21] <roland> help please.. on my fujitsu-siemens Amilo A-series laptop with ATI IGP 320 motherboard-integrated graphics, when i install Kubuntu (or Ubuntu) 5.10 all goes well until the X server/gdm must start and then the screen goes black and nothing happens.. I cant even kill the x server i must restart the computer.I tried to boot in text-mode recovery and tried to start the x server from the prompt and it said: cannot start x server: missing output driv
[01:21] <roland> so i cant use X under kubuntu.. please help
[01:22] <apokryphos> roland: install the ATI drivers
[01:22] <apokryphos> roland: /msg ubotu ati
[01:22] <roland> thats why it doesnt work?
[01:23] <roland> after i install the ATI drivers it will start the x server?
[01:23] <roland> but why doesnt it work in VESA ?
[01:23] <apokryphos> it should in theory work with one of the generic drivers, but more chance of it working more appropriately with the drivers installed
[01:23] <apokryphos> roland: yes, I think it will.
[01:24] <roland> how do i tell x what driver to use? there isnt a X server config tool in kubuntu as far as i have searched
[01:24] <roland> nothing like Xorgcfg or X -configure
[01:24] <roland> etc
[01:25] <apokryphos> roland: follow those instructions from ubotu
[01:25] <apokryphos> enter the command I gave you above
[01:25] <roland> ok
[01:28] <jorik> can i setup kubuntu so it only starts the mysql server when amarok starts ?
[01:38] <lioda> Hi
[01:38] <lioda> I have A powerbook5,6 and a Bi-powermac under Dapper PPC
[01:39] <lioda> I use Gnome and KDE 3.5
[01:39] <lioda> Under Gnome I have some refresh pb with background , is there anybody who have the same problem
[01:45] <ilba7r> anyone know what package owns kprinter?
[01:46] <apokryphos> ilba7r: kdeprint, most probably. http://packages.ubuntu.com to clarify
[01:46] <ilba7r> thanx apkryphos
[01:50] <ilba7r> thanx again apokryphos for the tab trick
[01:53] <voicu> Hi, I accidentally chowned /etc/sudoers to another user. Now sudo doesn't work, it says /etc/sudoers should have UID 0. su also doesn't work. Can someone help me, please?
[01:54] <voicu> I can't chown sudoers back...
[02:07] <NevidS> hi! there is any italian? I have a question about firefox, but my english isn't very good.
[02:08] <apokryphos> !it
[02:08] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:08] <apokryphos> NevidS: there =)
[02:08] <xwolf-> haha
[02:08] <xwolf-> !pt
[02:09] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:09] <xwolf-> :X
[02:09] <xwolf-> obrigada? ubotu is a female?
[02:09] <apokryphos> of course
[02:14] <NevidS> !it
[02:14] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:14] <apokryphos> NevidS: so type  /join #kubuntu-it
[02:15] <xtacocorex> i posted to the forums, thread 112072 (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112072) anyone have any ideas on that?
[02:16] <NevidS> apokryphos: they are in five inside the room :)
[02:18] <xtacocorex> if you do, just reply to the thread as any ideas would probably be highly technical
[02:20] <NevidS> ok, I'll try: my browser firefox have the fonts too big. No the web page that I see, but all the program interface. I have an Ubuntu with kde desktop, and I have searched inside GTK style and fonts men but nothing is changed. What can I do? (sorry another time for my poor english!!).
[02:22] <xwolf-> NevidS you can hold ctrl and roll the mouse scroll, this will make the fonts increase or decrease size
[02:22] <xwolf-> it solves your problem, at least temporarily :P
[02:26] <NevidS> xwolf-: yes I know that, but the problem isn't the webpages but the size of the program. I see all men like File and so on.
[02:29] <xwolf-> NevidS is it only with firefox or with other programs as well?
[02:31] <_ubuntu> NevidS: if it is like in debian... the fonts of the interface of firefox are managed by gnome-settting-deamon
[02:32] <_ubuntu>  NevidS: inside KDE, it is not started automatically, you need to start it.
[02:33] <NevidS> ubuntu: but how?
[02:35] <_ubuntu> NevidS: on the command line, try gnome-control-... ... 1 min.. I cannot remember.
[02:35] <ilba7r> nevids there is a gtk theme for kde do not remeber it now. but you can try installing gtk2-theme-clearlooks its the default. to run the gnome-settings-daemon just type it in a terminal. By the way the gtk theme will appear under kde control center so you can adjust it
[02:36] <_ubuntu> NevidS ilba7r: gnome-settings-daemon in terminal, but make sure you do the configuration as well.
[02:38] <_ubuntu> NevidS: to do the configuration of the fonts of the application start  gnome-control-center and go in the section fonts.
[02:39] <NevidS> but why I have to pass throug gnome? Why kde haven't something to controle the fonts of firefox? I can control che size of all program but not of firefox...
[02:39] <ilba7r> nevids firefox is gtk based
[02:40] <_ubuntu> NevidS: well, I never found how to do it in KDE....
[02:40] <ilba7r> same way qt based appl looks bad in gnome. you need their config
[02:40] <NevidS> ilba7r: ah! that's ok!
[02:40] <Tm_T> NevidS: install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[02:40] <Tm_T> and after that use kcontrol or whatever
[02:41] <NevidS> Tm_T: I have already installed
[02:41] <Tm_T> NevidS: then go to kcontrol -> appearance -> gtk
[02:41] <Tm_T> and configure
[02:41] <_ubuntu> Tm_T: that will take care of the font in gtk applications?
[02:41] <Tm_T> ubotu: oh yes
[02:41] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, tm_t?
[02:42] <ilba7r> Tm_T i thought you need though to install at least one gtk2 theme
[02:42] <Tm_T> ilba7r: you can use your qt theme
[02:42] <Tm_T> ilba7r: OR install one gtk theme
[02:42] <Tm_T> just as you like
[02:43] <ilba7r> using qt themes is bugy will never fix firefox. unless it the package has been updated
[02:43] <Tm_T> then use gtk thene
[02:43] <ilba7r> thans Tm_T i totally forgot the package name though
[02:43] <Tm_T> np
[02:43] <ilba7r> too many typos got to go take care all
[02:44] <wedgeV> how do i type a Euro symbol in kubuntu?
[02:44] <Tm_T> wedgeV: try altgr+e
[02:44] <wedgeV> that opens the edit menu
[02:45] <jorik>  ... seems to works here
[02:45] <Tm_T>  here too
[02:45] <jorik> Tm_T, no that doesnt look like a  at all !
[02:45] <wedgeV> i'm using US keyboard layout
[02:45] <xwolf-> here it prints the degree symbol,
[02:45] <Tm_T> jorik: different encoding
[02:45] <NevidS> Tm_T: inside kcontrol -> appearance -> gtk style and fonts    I have different mn: if I change some thing it will be change everything exept firefox. Which is youre configuration??
[02:46] <Tm_T> NevidS: I use Human gtk style and 8 size BitStream Vera Sans Mono
[02:47] <NevidS> I copy you
[02:47] <apokryphos> Tm_T: I use that font style/size too 8)
[02:49] <xwolf-> what's the difference between edubuntu and ubuntu?
[02:49] <jorik> xwolf-, edubuntu is for kids
[02:50] <Tm_T> apokryphos: neutral, isn't it
[02:50] <xwolf-> oh
[02:50] <apokryphos> xwolf-: /msg ubotu edubuntu
[02:50] <apokryphos> Tm_T: I like text not being too big too, yup. Changed it a few months ago and haven't looked back 8)
[02:50] <Tm_T> heh
[02:51] <Tm_T> apokryphos: I have problems with font sizes in KDE, all look big, so I have to force wrong dpi and use 8-9 font sizes
[02:52] <apokryphos> I use Brushstroke for the Windeco though, just realised. Looks nice/arty.
[02:52] <NevidS> Tm_T: mmm... mybe I have to restart the session because nothing is change. On GTK Style I have put the "ball" on che voice "Use another Style" with Human, and under GTK Fonts "Use another fonts".    Have I restart session?
[02:53] <apokryphos> got the idea from sredna: http://www.alweb.dk/blog/anders/hot_stuff_usage_and_support_in_kate
[02:53] <_ubuntu> Tm_t thank you!!! it works, I installed the package and restarted my session and now firefox has nice fonts without having to start gnome-settings-daemon!
[02:53] <_ubuntu> Tm_t: note that I m using debian testing and not kubuntu.
[02:53] <Tm_T> ubotu: no difference, same stuff :)
[02:53] <ubotu> Tm_T: I don't know
[02:54] <Tm_T> hmm
[02:54] <Tm_T> _ubuntu: I mean
[02:54] <Tm_T> hrr, too many ub* users
[02:54] <Tm_T> apachelogger: hint me if you get jingle working in breezy
[02:55] <Tm_T> away ->
[02:55] <apachelogger> yup
[02:55] <_ubuntu> Bye everyone. I;m off to work!
[02:57] <apachelogger> omg how shell I get it work without _ubuntu :-/
[02:59] <C-O-L-T> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[03:07] <NevidS> Tm_T: mmmm... nothing is change :'(
[03:14] <midas> #psp-hacks
[03:14] <midas> opps sorry
[03:16] <Tm_T> NevidS: interesting
[03:16] <NevidS> Tm_T: not realy :-/
[03:16] <Tm_T> NevidS: what you did and how it doesn't work
[03:19] <NevidS> Tm_T: I have put the signed the voice "use another Style" with Human like you, and under GTK Fonts "Use another font" with Tahoma size 11.
[03:19] <Tm_T> ...and you restarted firefoz?
[03:19] <Tm_T> x
[03:20] <Tm_T> too much guitar, can't really feel my fingers
[03:20] <NevidS> eheheh
[03:20] <NevidS> yes I do!
[03:20] <Tm_T> and no luck?
[03:21] <Tm_T> btw your settings are pretty much gnome defaults?
[03:21] <Tm_T> try something really different
[03:21] <Tm_T> if there's any difference at all
[03:21] <NevidS> ah!!!!!! yes! now I understand! I have to put 8 like size!!! I'm supide!!
[03:21] <NevidS> *stupide :)
[03:21] <Tm_T> :)
[03:22] <Tm_T> it works?
[03:22] <NevidS> yesss!!
[03:22] <NevidS> you are great!
[03:22] <Tm_T> np
[03:22] <Tm_T> just sitting too much at home
[03:23] <NevidS> ahahahahahaha!!
[03:33] <arthurgeek> Hello All! I downloaded and burned dapper-flight2. When installing, everythings goes well until it stops when tryying to copy language-pack-fr-base to hard disk. Why FR? I have'nt selected that language. Another issue: alt + f3, brings m to that console and there's a error about trying to set locale to en_US.UTF-8 and failed (not this exactly message)
[03:40] <arthurgeek> anyone?
[03:41] <Kibou> installed it yesterday and it didn't complain about anything missing here
[03:43] <arthurgeek> how to check md5 in windows?
[03:43] <xwolf-> i have a program
[03:44] <Kibou> there are plenty..
[03:44] <arthurgeek> i found one in google now... i'll try it
[03:50] <arthurgeek> md5sum is fine... :(
[03:51] <arthurgeek> i tried install it two times... first using my lang (pt_BR) and then using en_US... that two times it stopped in that package (language-pack-fr-base)
[03:51] <arthurgeek> there's a way to tell installer to not copy unneeded packages?
[03:59] <nagyv> Hello! I would like to fire up my pcmcia card, but the Network Settings panel of the System Settings can not find it. I don't know what could happen. It was working in the past days wihtout any problems. I think that lspci sees the card. Could someone help me?
[04:06] <ninHer> hi all
[04:07] <dandielionous> Well I managed to set up konversation to get back here.
[04:07] <dandielionous> lol
[04:07] <dandielionous> <<<<bubble wrap still on newbie
[04:08] <dandielionous> I was trying to install kmymoney.
[04:08] <dandielionous> I managed to download what I believe is the right file.
[04:08] <dandielionous> Managed to unzip it.
[04:08] <dandielionous> Now I'm having trouble installing it.
[04:08] <dandielionous> I figured out how to set a root password which isn't working with sudo.
[04:09] <dandielionous> I can only use the password with su.
[04:09] <dandielionous> I can't figure out if apt is supposed to install kmymoney or not.
[04:09] <dandielionous> I've been going through the install information.
[04:10] <dandielionous> Trying to do it in the terminal window.
[04:10] <dandielionous> Any thoughts?
[04:10] <dandielionous> Or just figure it out for myself?
[04:12] <dandielionous> <<< whistles in the dark
[04:12] <dandielionous> Oh well.  Seems my answer is figure it out for yourself dandie.
[04:12] <dandielionous> Thanks for the help.
[04:13] <nagyv> Hello! I would like to fire up my pcmcia card, but the Network Settings panel of the System Settings can not find it. I don't know what could happen. It was working in the past days wihtout any problems. I think that lspci sees the card. Could someone help me?
[04:14] <nagyv> In the meantime it recognized the card, but it can not enable it.
[04:15] <dandielionous> I think they're all dead nagyv.
[04:15] <dandielionous> Either that or they don't feel like talking.
[04:16] <nagyv> in this case you are the only one to help me :)
[04:18] <dandielionous> I'm sorry nagyv I'm very new to linux.
[04:19] <dandielionous> Windows I could tell you how to fix the problem.  But linux I can't even find my cards yet so you're ahead of me.
[04:19] <dark_suic> i know nothing about pcmcia
[04:19] <dark_suic> but i can help to find cards xD
[04:20] <SirKillalot> uhm, In the control center I set up firefox as my standard web browser but why does Gaim still open webpages in konqueror?
[04:20] <dandielionous> lol there see we keep blindly leading each other we might accomplish something yet.
[04:20] <kit89> hi all
[04:21] <dandielionous> hello kit
[04:21] <dark_suic> maybe gaim should be configured too for opening webpages in firefox??? (i don't use gaim so don't know exactly)
[04:21] <dandielionous> I'm not sure if speaking to each other is off topic or not.
[04:21] <SirKillalot> dark_suic, under gnome the same gaim opened webpages with firefox
[04:21] <dark_suic> well, it maybe,  but in a dead channel, who matters?
[04:21] <SirKillalot> so i think it has something to do with KDE
[04:21] <dark_suic> maybe...
[04:22] <dandielionous> Maybe there is a way to change your default in gaim SirKillalot .
[04:22] <kit89> Go into gaims options and find what browser it should use
[04:23] <SirKillalot> if it was so easy I wouldn't ask you
[04:23] <dandielionous> lol I hear that SirKillalot .
[04:23] <dandielionous> I wouldn't be in here asking questions either if it was so easy.
[04:24] <SirKillalot> lol that is _really_ strange
[04:24] <SirKillalot> i have that problem for days now
[04:24] <SirKillalot> and today, when I ask you, they bring an CVS update
[04:24] <SirKillalot> with a new option entry called "browser"
[04:24] <SirKillalot> lol!
[04:24] <dark_suic> xDDDDDDDD
[04:25] <kit89> Go inot gaim then preferences>browser
[04:25] <kit89> then choose what browser you want
[04:25] <SirKillalot> kit89, yep, thank you, I was compiling the new version as I explained you my problem
[04:26] <nagyv> this can help the gaim problem: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=97254
[04:26] <SirKillalot> ah, and one more question: isn't KDE able to restart kwin if it crashes?
[04:27] <dandielionous> I'm just trying to install kmymoney.
[04:27] <SirKillalot> I had the luck that I had an open konqueror when it crashed and had to start it by browsing to /usr/bin and finding the kwin executable
[04:27] <nagyv> you can always restart it from the console.
[04:27] <nagyv> ALT+CTRL+F1
[04:27] <SirKillalot> not if your kwin is crashed
[04:27] <SirKillalot> ah
[04:27] <SirKillalot> ok
[04:27] <SirKillalot> I thought I would get something like "no screen found" if I did that in the console
[04:28] <nagyv> ?
[04:28] <SirKillalot> try to start kcontrol from tty1
[04:28] <SirKillalot> and you will see
[04:28] <nagyv> oh, yep
[04:28] <nagyv> but you don't need kcontrol
[04:28] <SirKillalot> yea ;P
[04:28] <dandielionous> I have to struggle with my computer some more and then get ready for work.
[04:28] <dandielionous> Nice chatting.
[04:33] <SirKillalot> hm, is there any tool to display for example the output of "top" on my desktop? like superkaramba does
[04:33] <SirKillalot> but I don't like it because of eating too much CPU time :-/
[04:34] <nagyv> pass
[04:37] <nagyv> I have to get back to work. Have a nice day! Bye
[05:13] <visik7> hi guys
[05:13] <visik7> I found a nice program that intagrate kio with the whole system (kio_fuse) what about the integration of it with kubuntu?
[05:16] <_peter> hi, I'm looking for a way to center an image in it's imageframe. Also the same for text in a text frame (vertically centered). Anybody out there that knows how to do this?
[05:17] <Blippe> I tried to upgrade kde (with the packages) and got hit with this: "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-kresources_4%3a3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy2_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/services/kresources/kcal/blogging.desktop', which is also in package libkcal2a"
[05:17] <Blippe> What to do?
[05:18] <_peter> hmm, stupid me, i joined the wrong channel, don't bother :)
[05:18] <visik7> Blippe:  remove libkcal2a or ignore it
[05:21] <kkathman> visik7: excuse my ignorance, but your discovery of kio_fuse....isnt that already standard in all the KDE apps? i.e. kio_slave
[05:21] <kkathman> maybe I misunderstood your statement
[05:22] <visik7> kio_fuse use kioslave
[05:22] <visik7> kio_fuse permit to use kio_slaves from any non kde apps
[05:23] <jorik> cool
[05:23] <visik7> so I can for example upload a file into a webpage using firefox
[05:23] <visik7> and the file is in a ssh account
[05:23] <visik7> so using scp://...
[05:23] <visik7> but there is only one package for sid
[05:23] <visik7> it doesn't install into breezy; I'm recompiling it
[05:39] <jahshua--> hey anyone here use Limewire ?
[05:40] <Hannes3> yes I have used it
[05:41] <Blippe> tnx visik7
[05:41] <callie> i use Frostwire, a linux copy of limewire
[05:41] <callie> very similar though
[05:44] <jahshua--> is it as good/better ?
[05:47] <callie> i've had better results with it, i've found p2p under linux to be pretty poor and this has performed the best for me
[05:47] <Lord_Athur> hi
[05:47] <visik7> limewire which network use ?
[05:47] <visik7> amule works well
[05:47] <callie> limewire uses Gnutella
[05:48] <Blippe> how do i completely remove "ubuntu"/"gnome ubuntu"???
[05:48] <callie> Blippe: try asking in #ubuntu
[05:52] <visik7> Blippe: not so simple
[05:52] <Blippe> is kubuntu more than the dummies kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base?
[05:52] <visik7> what do you mean ?
[05:53] <visik7> kubuntu-desktop install everything you need (maybe more)
[05:53] <Blippe> well, does i get anything on a fresh install from cd that isn't in kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base?
[05:54] <kkathman> Blippe: kubuntu is basic ubuntu, minus the gnome desktop, and plus the kubuntu-desktop (i.e. KDE)
[05:54] <visik7> Blippe:  kubuntu-default-settings
[05:54] <kkathman> Blippe: you also get KDE apps
[05:55] <Blippe> so if i told synaptic to remove everything, and before hitting apply, install the kubuntu-dummy-package i would get a "fresh" kubuntu-install?
[05:55] <DaSkreech> With updates
[05:55] <visik7> everything what ?
[05:56] <Blippe> everything that has been installed...
[05:56] <kkathman> Blippe why not just reinstall with a fresh kubuntu CD?
[05:56] <visik7> (saving your /home
[05:56] <visik7> )
[05:57] <Blippe> I don't have a cd-rom on the computer anymore...
[05:57] <visik7> you can debootstrap a fresh breezy installation
[05:57] <kkathman> ahh good reason
[05:58] <visik7> and install kubuntu-desktop from there
[05:58] <Blippe> visik7, that sounds like a better idea, do you know of a good guide?
[05:58] <visik7> man debootstrap at the bottom there are all the steps that you need to do
[06:00] <Blippe> i look into it.
[06:01] <Blippe> but, "removing" all the installed packages in synaptic and then reselecting kubuntu wouldn't really be a good idea?
[06:01] <visik7> your remove also important packages
[06:01] <visik7> you remove also important packages
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Like synaptic
[06:02] <visik7> like the kernel
[06:02] <visik7> :)
[06:02] <visik7> like apt
[06:02] <Blippe> yeah, but since i don't hit apply they should still be there....
[06:02] <visik7> if u don't apply it will not uninstall
[06:03] <visik7> there are other packages that doesn't depend from kubuntu-desktop but are important too
[06:03] <Blippe> exactly, then before reinstall I choose to "unmark" kubuntu and those packages, and everything should be alright...
[06:04] <Blippe> so, back to my origional question, which ones?
[06:04] <visik7> Blippe: too long to tell
[06:04] <Blippe> they are not in ubuntu-base?
[06:05] <Blippe> there must be a list somewhere :D
[06:05] <visik7> why ?
[06:05] <visik7> in the install cd probably btw the list of gnome packages are shorter
[06:05] <Blippe> the installer kind of needs it, for one...
[06:06] <visik7> the installer is on the cd
[06:06] <visik7> btw
[06:06] <visik7> I dunno
[06:06] <Blippe> screw it, i'll just buy a new cd-reader...
[06:06] <visik7> when I migrate from ubuntu  to kubuntu I've installed kubuntu-desktop and then  remove all the rest
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Blippe: What I did was uninstall the libs
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Blippe: I removed the libs and everything above it for KDE and Gnome
[06:10] <DaSkreech> then reinstalled Kubuntu-desktop
[06:15] <Blippe> DaSkreech, what do you mean by "above it"?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Well everything that depends on it
[06:17] <Blippe> Ah
[06:18] <Blippe> I just choose to remove everything in synaptic, got a lot of "Removing this package may render the system unusable", without it telling me which package that is...
[06:18] <Blippe> Then I chose to reinstall Kubuntu-desktop
[06:18] <Blippe> I it added 1 other package.
[06:18] <Blippe> not all that rewarding, i must say
[06:25] <penguinzdr> FHX: what software do you want to install?
[06:25] <Blippe> Another way would of course be to answer "no" to all the question if you are stupid enough to really wanna remove something the system needs!
[06:28] <yahalom> what is the command to reinstall an app?
[06:33] <jpatrick> hi nalioth
[06:33] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[06:34] <jpatrick> nalioth: I didn't know you hang out #ubuntu-motu :)
[06:34] <jpatrick> around*
[06:34] <nalioth> jpatrick: well, it's a recent change in my lifestyle
[06:34] <nalioth> since i've started wrestling with pbuilder
[06:35] <jpatrick> cool
[06:37] <goldmember> is it possible to remove /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile? if i try apt-get remove ...restricted-modules.... it wants to remove the whole kernel
[06:45] <pussfeller> how come storage devices are mounted as /media/sd* instead of /media/volume-name?
[06:45] <pussfeller> this makes persistance a bit of a pain
[06:56] <strider> how do I get a volume icon on the system tray
[06:58] <kozz> strider: just start kmix
[06:58] <strider> that's the thing
[06:58] <strider> if i reboot,i have to manually add it again
[06:58] <kozz> disabled session?
[06:59] <strider> yes
[06:59] <kozz> then thats why
[06:59] <strider> Isn't there a KMIx system tray applet
[07:00] <kozz> yes?
[07:00] <strider> it brings up the whole Kmix application
[07:00] <kozz> strider: you can also add it to autostart
[07:01] <strider> kozz: yes that would be the way
[07:01] <strider> kozz: thanks then
[07:11] <mani21> nic not detected its onboard nForce 430
[07:18] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:18] <syl> hi
[07:19] <syl> hibernate doesn't work
[07:20] <syl> it tells me "Your kernel does not have any recent Software Suspend 2 support compiled in."
[07:22] <syl> should i "compile Software Suspend into your kernel" ?
[07:22] <syl> kubuntu 5.10
[07:37] <Lord_Athur> hi
[07:37] <jpatrick> Lord_Athur: good evening
[07:37] <rance> logging off didnt help, I still cant find a scanner
[07:38] <LiGhTeNiN> is the 6.04 flight cd 2 stable enough? or should I get breexy instead
[07:41] <kkathman> hi jpatrick :)
[07:41] <jpatrick> yo kkathman dude :)
[07:41] <kkathman> LiGhTeNiN: depends on your expertise
[07:41] <LiGhTeNiN> hm
[07:41] <kkathman> LiGhTeNiN: since you have to think about it, get breezy :)
[07:42] <LiGhTeNiN> can I update later?
[07:42] <kkathman> Dapper right now is for the advanced Ubuntu person
[07:42] <kkathman> LiGhTeNiN: yes in April when it is released
[07:46] <sas171> hi, how to change character encoding in kopete?
[07:51] <florian> /msg Firehand hallo :)
[08:11] <jpatrick> hey apachelogger !
[08:11] <apachelogger> hey jpatrick
[08:12] <jpatrick> apachelogger: if you go by the same name on KDE-Look - I'm the guy that looked at your KBlogger package :)
[08:12] <apachelogger> w00t
[08:13] <apachelogger> is a karma bot around?
[08:13] <jpatrick> I didn't know there was one
[08:13] <apachelogger> I'll ++ you in #amarok ;-)
[08:13] <sas171> apachelogger: hey, are using kubuntu?
[08:13] <apachelogger> sas171: yup
[08:14] <sas171> and you have kopete 10.4 from apt-get?
[08:15] <apachelogger> sas171: currently I'm using 0.12-dev
[08:15] <sas171> oh
[08:15] <apachelogger> sas171: you can get 0.11 from the kde 3.5 repo ... see topic
[08:15] <sas171> apachelogger: is that allready stable?
[08:16] <apachelogger> sas171: at least kopete ... some other 3.5 builds aren't that fantastic yet
[08:16] <jpatrick> apachelogger: I think I'll hang around #amarok
[08:16] <C-O-L-T> I AM BACK
[08:16] <sas171> apachelogger: thx
[08:16] <sas171> C-O-L-T: =)
[08:17] <C-O-L-T> sas171: what is the problem?
[08:17] <sas171> C-O-L-T: what do you mean?
[08:18] <C-O-L-T> sas171: you made this =)
[08:18] <sas171> and?
[08:21] <jahshua--> can someone tell me what i need to play .wmv files please ? totem isnt working nor VLC ?  :/
[08:21] <C-O-L-T> sas171: not no problem
[08:21] <sas171> jahshua--: w32codecs installed?
[08:22] <Restlekak> is there a kernel source package for 2.6.12-10  ?
[08:22] <jahshua--> sas171 yes i think so
[08:24] <sas171> jahshua--: totem should do now, there always some problems with wmv, try another file
[08:27] <callie> yeah, but most pron is in WMV
[08:27] <jahshua--> Kryal i installed the codecs still not working
[08:28] <sas171> callie: yeah, im sorry about that too
[08:28] <callie> :D
[08:29] <mgorbach> can someone help? i cant seem to get my network set up correctly
[08:29] <mgorbach> my dns resolving wont work
[08:32] <SirKillalot> hey there, any people here who switched from ubuntu to kubuntu with the kubuntu-desktop meta package?
[08:33] <SirKillalot> I did but I experience a problem playing videos in KDE
[08:34] <SirKillalot> on Gnome and Enlightenment everything was flewently, but now I get lags in videos every 20 seconds or so if I scale it too big or even fullscreen
[08:34] <SirKillalot> I use an ATi 9700 pro and a 2.6 Ghz AMD Athlon
[08:35] <SirKillalot> that really sucks hard :(
[08:55] <sas171> apachelogger: ok, i have kopete 0.11 and character encoding option, but this option is inactive, any ideas) ?
[08:56] <_martin_> SirKillalot: you playing DVD's right?
[08:57] <jpatrick> sas171: I think he's away
[08:58] <sas171> jpatrick: ok, thx
[08:58] <Prozac> is it possible to add "lines"/"seperators" in your panels ?
[08:58] <Prozac> So i could like group my buttons and stuff
[09:00] <Lord_Athur> what version of kde does kubuntu breezy have?
[09:00] <Florian-T> 3.4.3 i think
[09:00] <jpatrick> Lord_Athur: 3.4.3
[09:01] <jpatrick> Lord_Athur: 3.5 is avablie for download
[09:02] <Florian-T> i had a nice bug with breezy
[09:02] <jpatrick> Florian-T: which is
[09:02] <Florian-T> after installing everything was ok
[09:02] <Florian-T> afer first onlineupdate something with HAL and automounting of dvds went wrong
[09:02] <Florian-T> did not work anymore
[09:03] <jpatrick> known
[09:03] <jpatrick> try: sudo killall ivman
[09:03] <Florian-T> then it should work for all time?
[09:03] <Lord_Athur> thnaks jpatrick
[09:04] <jpatrick> just see if that works
[09:04] <Florian-T> i have now chance of testing anymore
[09:04] <Florian-T> erm, no chance...
[09:05] <Florian-T> i updated to dapper
[09:05] <jpatrick> ah well
[09:06] <Florian-T> there it works :)
[09:07] <Florian-T> but other things don't... ^^
[09:07] <heix> hi! how to install by apt-get install frozen bubble   ???
[09:08] <sas171> i deaktivated my menu in kopete how to get it back?
[09:09] <andre> sas171: strg+m
[09:09] <sas171> andre: ah, thank you
[09:09] <andre> ctrl+m of course :)
[09:10] <Florian-T> @heix: apt-get install frozen-bubble
[09:10] <sas171> andre: yes, i have Strg too =)
[09:10] <_nanda> hi
[09:10] <_nanda> I have just installed kubuntu over my ubuntu install and have a few questions about setting it up
[09:11] <enfact> shoot
[09:11] <_nanda> it seems that you don't get synaptic, how can I install it?
[09:12] <_nanda> adept seems a bit weird to me
[09:12] <enfact> which version of kubuntu did you install 5.10, the newest?
[09:12] <_nanda> yes
[09:12] <_nanda> 5.10
[09:12] <sas171> _nanda: you can use kynaptic
[09:12] <_nanda> sas171: is kynaptic installed by default?
[09:13] <Florian-T> what is weird about adept?
[09:13] <jpatrick> _nanda: no
[09:13] <sas171> _nanda: no you have to install it...
[09:13] <_nanda> Florian-T: I am used to synaptic, it would be easier for me to just use that
[09:13] <_nanda> sas171: how can I install it, via adept?
[09:14] <sas171> _nanda: just write in the filter line "kynaptic"
[09:14] <_nanda> ok
[09:15] <sas171> _nanda: however kynaptic is not the same as synaptic...
[09:15] <enfact> adept is better than kynaptic surely though, i would give it another try
[09:15] <sas171> i think so too
[09:15] <_nanda> how can I enable universe/multiverse with apdet?
[09:15] <Florian-T> _nanda: yes i think so too
[09:15] <enfact> way to go on switching to KDE also!
[09:16] <apokryphos> _nanda: /msg ubotu repositories
[09:16] <_nanda> I am willing to give it a try
[09:16] <_nanda> sudo apt-get install xterm zenity
[09:16] <_nanda> oops
[09:16] <sas171> )
[09:16] <_nanda> sorry about that
[09:16] <_nanda> ;)
[09:16] <sas171> no worries i lost my passwort like that once
[09:16] <_nanda> lol
[09:17] <SirKillalot> how can I make konqueror show EVERY mounted drive in media:/ and not only the removable storages?
[09:17] <heix> Reading package lists... Done
[09:17] <heix> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:17] <heix> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Kubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:17] <heix> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Kubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:17] <heix> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[09:17] <heix> E: Couldn't find package frozen-bubble
[09:17] <SirKillalot> how can I make konqueror show EVERY mounted drive in media:/ and not only the removable storages?
[09:17] <sas171> !pastebin
[09:17] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:17] <apokryphos> heix: do NOT paste in here.
[09:17] <heix> clear
[09:18] <SirKillalot> does your konqueror show all drives in media:/ ?
[09:19] <apokryphos> heix: edit your sources.list and comment out the CD entry, then sudo apt-get update
[09:20] <sas171> SirKillalot: no, only floppy
[09:20] <SirKillalot> sas171, do you know how to make it show all drives?
[09:20] <Sastkryptlox> Hio everyone
[09:20] <dst20> bonsoir
[09:21] <jpatrick> dst20: bonsoir
[09:21] <Sastkryptlox> Got a little problem - but it shouldn't be a problem for experienced linux users like you.... hope you can help me:
[09:22] <dst20> je vien d installer kubuntu et je ne c pas comment sa marche
[09:22] <heix> apokryphos: no help
[09:22] <jpatrick> dst20: #kubuntu-fr ?
[09:22] <Sastkryptlox> if i change  something in the /etc/network/interfaces file... how do i relaunch it, so i don't have to reboot my whole system?
[09:22] <sas171> SirKillalot: no, sorry
[09:23] <Florian-T> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:23] <apokryphos> heix: what's the error this time? Can you pastebin it?
[09:23] <jpatrick> Sastkryptlox: "sudo /etc/init.d/ifupdown restart" I think
[09:23] <dst20> merci jpatrick
[09:23] <Sastkryptlox> thanks! gonna try that
[09:23] <apokryphos> heix: dang, gotta shoot off -- but that's a common error. Put the link here and many will be able to sort it.
[09:24] <xorion> hello
[09:25] <xorion> can anyone tell me if I can use a .ppd file from gutenprint 5.0 with gimp-print 4.2 that ships with kubuntu 5.10?
[09:25] <heix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6608
[09:26] <Florian-T> i think you need the universe repository
[09:26] <_nanda> I am trying to enable universe/multiverse, but can't see 'multiverse' as it is shown on the wiki page
[09:26] <_nanda> scratch that
[09:26] <_nanda> I found it ;)
[09:26] <_nanda> lol
[09:27] <Florian-T> ^^
[09:28] <_nanda> actually I haven't found it, that was the backports one
[09:28] <_nanda> I can just see the universe repos
[09:28] <xorion> am I even asking in the right channel?
[09:29] <heix> give me some link's wher i can copy/paste the sources.list
[09:29] <sampan> !easysource
[09:29] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:29] <sampan> heix, the link ubotu just posted is a good customizer for sources.list
[09:31] <sas171> how to change character encoding in kopete?
[09:41] <Tudor_b> sas171: Settings > Configure Kopete > Apperance > Colors & Fonts Tab
[09:44] <sas171> Tudor_b: thank i allready found it, it isnt there
[09:54] <RichardC> ive got two questions
[09:54] <RichardC> first
[09:54] <RichardC> is there a way to shorten the amount of time it takes until linux times out when it tries to connect to a network at boot?
[09:55] <RichardC> i dont have a network or broadband at home, but i take my computer places, so i dont want to just disable this part of boot
[10:00] <admrl> does any one know of a way to get bigger icons than 32x32 in the location toolbar in konqueror
[10:01] <kkathman> admrl: changing the size in the KDE appearance doesnt do it?
[10:01] <RichardC> sorry bout that
[10:02] <RichardC> anyone know how to shorten the amount of time before a network timeout at boot though?
[10:02] <kkathman> admrl Im not completely sure what you are doing...do you mean the little bar at the far left on the file manager view? that has bookmarks, history, root folder, etc?
[10:03] <admrl> it has back forward up a directory  home refresh and stop in it kkthman
[10:04] <kkathman> ahh I gotcha
[10:05] <kkathman> admrl right click on the location bar on the X, then choose icon size :)
[10:05] <admrl> i want bigger than 32x32
[10:05] <admrl> :D
[10:06] <kkathman> oh BIGGER ??
[10:06] <kkathman> hmm
[10:07] <admrl> i want it a little more configured than it goes im using a semi costimized version of the vista ???something??? icon theme
[10:07] <admrl> i did a little so i would have bigger action icons
[10:07] <admrl> for this purpose
[10:09] <admrl> and if your editing the toolbars and you put up the extra toolbar <konqueror>
[10:09] <admrl> it also adds Extra Toolbar <DirFilter>
[10:09] <admrl> and filter toolbar <DirFIlter
[10:10] <Lord_Athur> hi
[10:10] <RichardC> how can i change the default resolution of the login screen?
[10:11] <Lord_Athur> mmm i did it changing the x config
[10:13] <Lord_Athur> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[10:14] <Lord_Athur> RichardC, there will be an option to change the resolution for screen
[10:16] <Prozac> i first intsall ubuntu and later i installed the kubuntu-desktop package, is there an easy way to change the boot screen that says ubuntu to kubuntu? to get rid of the brown maybe ? :)
[10:17] <Puaff> Prozac: I installed KDE via apt-get install kde and I got the Kubuntu blue desktop
[10:17] <Prozac> i mean when you boot the comp
[10:18] <Prozac> it says unbutu
[10:18] <admrl> Prozac thats a grub theme
[10:18] <Prozac> ah
[10:18] <admrl> its in a grub conf file
[10:18] <Puaff> Prozac: then install apt-get install kdm
[10:18] <admrl> Puaf it has nothing to do with kdm
[10:18] <admrl> he is talking about the brown ubuntu bootloader screen when you turn on your computer
[10:18] <Prozac> yeah
[10:19] <Prozac> i allready installed kdm
[10:19] <Puaff> uops, sorry O:-)
[10:19] <Prozac> :)
[10:19] <Prozac> but is there an easy way to change the grub theme then?
[10:20] <admrl> one second Prozac i will take a look
[10:20] <Prozac> thanks... im all new to linux hehe
[10:21] <admrl> its nothing i have done before and it wasnt int he config file i thought it was in in hoary
[10:21] <Prozac> okay, well its not a major problem, just thought it could be nice to have a blue screen saying kubuntu instead of brown and ubnutu
[10:22] <admrl> Prozac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:22] <Prozac> thanks
[10:22] <xorion> ok, i'm getting frustrated....anyone know of an IRC server/channel for CUPS or gimp-print?
[10:22] <admrl> it might be a bit unuser friendly i have a feeling
[10:22] <Prozac> well ill see if i can figure it out
[10:23] <admrl> prozac make sure to back it up
[10:23] <admrl> anything you do back up
[10:23] <admrl> like if you edit any config files in /boot or anywhere before you edit do a
[10:24] <admrl> sudo cp *file* ~*file*
[10:24] <admrl> or something along those lines ok..?
[10:24] <Prozac> yeah, i think ill start by reading it. If its to complicated for me, ill drop it, and then maybe later when ive managed to figure out some more stuff ill take a look again
[10:24] <admrl> and if anything wrong happens you can cp it backqards
[10:24] <Prozac> yeah :)
[10:24] <admrl> :)
[10:25] <rjb> hi there, does "vbetool" sound familiar to any of you?
[10:27] <rjb> it's invoked in /etc/acpi/resume.sh, but there is no program by the name "vbetool" on my system
[10:28] <rjb> and there is a vbetool package in debian, but it doesn't seem to be present in ubuntu
[10:29] <rjb> (i'm running breezy, fresh install)
[10:30] <admrl> rjb and what problems is this giving you..?
[10:31] <rjb> my laptop sleeps but can't awake properly :(
[10:31] <admrl> would you like to uninstall it..?
[10:32] <admrl> sudo dpkg -r vbetool
[10:32] <admrl> i dont know what it does
[10:32] <rjb> huh?
[10:32] <admrl> id suggest looking it up on google
[10:32] <rjb> i said the problem is it's NOT there
[10:32] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > hi there
[10:32] <kkathman> rjb sudo apt-get install vbetool
[10:32] <rjb> no such package
[10:32] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > someone can help on a hardware related thing?
[10:33] <kkathman> then you havent enabled all your repos rjb
[10:33] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i'd like to have a secondary HD in my laptop
[10:33] <kkathman> cuz I just did the apt-cache
[10:33] <kkathman> !info vbetool
[10:33] <admrl> rjb: you need to go into /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:33] <kkathman> vbetool - run real-mode video BIOS code to alter hardware state
[10:33] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > when i bought mine (TM-803 acer) there was the possibility to substitute the cdrom slot with a secondary HD slot
[10:33] <admrl> rjb: and sudo nano
[10:34] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > someone knows something about network drives?
[10:34] <admrl> and uncomment the multiverse and universe lines
[10:34] <rjb> hmm
[10:34] <admrl> take out the # next to the lines
[10:34] <rjb> they ARE  uncommented
[10:34] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i mean, can i use them simply connecting the LAN cable?
[10:35] <rjb> both universe & multiverse
[10:35] <admrl> kkathman do you have plf repos added..?
[10:35] <kkathman> admrl: no
[10:35] <kkathman> just the basics
[10:35] <rjb> as well as backports & security
[10:36] <admrl> you have backports so youve been doing this a lot im guessing
[10:36] <admrl> try sudo apt-cache search vbetool
[10:36] <admrl> cuz i did an apt-cache and it worked
[10:36] <rjb> duh, i tried that long ago
[10:36] <admrl> lol
[10:36] <rjb> and it gave no results, that's why i'm asking here
[10:36] <kkathman> admrl  did he check to see his cdrom was commented out?
[10:36] <xorion> can anyone tell me what package installs the .ppd files in /usr/share/cups ?
[10:37] <admrl> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search vbetool
[10:37] <admrl> kkathman i didnt ask him
[10:37] <rjb> did that already
[10:37] <admrl> thats the last thing i could think of but your cdrom shouldnt matter should it kkathman...?
[10:37] <kkathman> rjb could you paste your sources.list to wiki.ubuntu-nl.com please?
[10:37] <kkathman> yes it could
[10:38] <kkathman> oops sorry on that addie
[10:38] <rjb> hmm i have only 1 idea, the mirror i'm using must be broken
[10:38] <rjb> ie. not complete
[10:38] <kkathman> paste to paste.ubutu-nl.org
[10:38] <kkathman> lol
[10:38] <admrl> :) i agree with kkathman
[10:39] <kkathman> Im just thinking that there is still something wrong with the sources
[10:39] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > ping? pong!
[10:39] <kkathman> thats nearly always the case
[10:39] <rjb> it's pl.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:39] <kkathman> ok...paste it where you wish, I'd just like to see it rjb
[10:39] <rjb> the sources.list is correct, trust me
[10:40] <kkathman> rjb I dont doubt you think it is correct
[10:40] <rjb> i've been a debian user for 7 years or so
[10:40] <rjb> it's the mirror that must be wrong
[10:40] <kkathman> rjb you might try removing the pl, and just use archive.ubuntu.com.......
[10:40] <rjb> good suggestion, will do
[10:40] <kkathman> thats what I have
[10:41] <rjb> or better, i'll append the second source
[10:41] <rjb> thx u made me think ;)
[10:41] <kkathman> np hope you have good luck with that
[10:47] <rjb> nope. still no package vbetool found
[10:48] <admrl> ohhh!!!
[10:48] <admrl> mayb you should just get a whole new sources.list..?
[10:49] <rjb> duh
[10:49] <admrl> lol
[10:49] <admrl> im needing to set up an ftp server on my box :(
[10:50] <admrl> i will save mine on my tripod and you can copy it
[10:50] <rjb> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted multiverse
[10:50] <admrl> were are you from rjb..?
[10:50] <rjb> that line looks ok doesn't it
[10:50] <admrl> like country
[10:50] <rjb> PL
[10:50] <Foodcoman> Greetings
[10:51] <admrl> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted multiverse
[10:51] <admrl> there is mine
[10:51] <kkathman> rjb looks ok to me :)
[10:52] <admrl> http://admrlpix.tripod.com/sources.list
[10:54] <admrl> rjb try copying that i have the plf repos added
[10:54] <admrl> but you can remove them
[10:56] <rjb> i added the us.archive
[10:56] <rjb> no change
[10:56] <admrl> after the update..?
[10:56] <admrl> you remembered to update it right..?
[10:57] <rjb> sure
[10:58] <rjb> admrl, the only diff between yours and mine is swap us. for pl.
[10:58] <admrl> ya...
[10:58] <rjb> (oh & the plf items)
[10:58] <admrl> yep yep yep
[10:58] <admrl> well could pl not have it..?
[10:58] <rjb> no wonder, it was written by the installer
[10:59] <rjb> but i added us, and it doesn't have it either
[10:59] <admrl> hmmmmm
[10:59] <kkathman> rjb do this...  apt-cache search pan
[11:00] <rjb> what does apt-cache show vbetool tell you?
[11:00] <rjb> kkathmat i just did apt-get install pan yesterday
[11:00] <kkathman> vbetool - run real-mode video BIOS code to alter hardware state
[11:00] <admrl> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=vbetool&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[11:00] <admrl> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:00] <ubotu> admrl: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:01] <kkathman> rjb  apt-cache search discus
[11:02] <rjb> ok admrl thanx! now i see it indeed is missing
[11:02] <rjb> look at the url you pasted
[11:03] <rjb> and.. consider i forgot to tell ya i'm running amd64 ;-/
[11:03] <kkathman> ohhhh!! hehe
[11:03] <rjb> vbetool is available only for i386
[11:04] <kkathman> well there we go :)
[11:04] <kkathman> lol
[11:04] <rjb> and this is reason for a bug report
[11:06] <rjb> they somehow missed building it for amd64
[11:08] <rjb> kkatman btw what was it about the search discus..?
[11:10] <feistel> hi
[11:10] <feistel> I have a question
[11:10] <feistel> Kubuntu is released in Spanish version?
[11:11] <callie> Linux has a long history of multi language support
[11:11] <kkathman> feistel: yes
[11:11] <callie> hey kkathman
[11:11] <kkathman> !es
[11:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:11] <kkathman> hey callie :)
[11:11] <kkathman> How are you today callie :)
[11:11] <feistel> kkathman, callie: and, documentation?
[11:12] <callie> im doing well kkathman
[11:12] <callie> i believe so feistel
[11:12] <callie> hows things with you kkathman ?
[11:12] <pinucset> one think, how can i do that kaffeine plays using xine not gstreamer? ive installed kaffeine-xine but i doesnt found for play using xine
[11:13] <kkathman> im doing well, callie, thank you for asking :)
[11:14] <callie> the world of ubuntu linux is just that little bit nicer than the rest of linux land i think
[11:14] <callie> its not all geeks jerking off on their superiority
[11:14] <aseigo> oops.
[11:14] <aseigo> ;)
[11:15] <callie> lol
[11:15] <eitan> lol
[11:15] <callie> the idea of noob bashing yet supporting open source is frankly hypocrytical
[11:15] <aseigo> callie: agreed; it's easy to understand how it happens though
[11:16] <callie> sure
[11:16] <kkathman> callie: I agree wholeheartedly
[11:16] <callie> bashing noobs only creates more of them
[11:16] <kkathman> aseigo: and I dont know why it happens at all
[11:16] <aseigo> callie: the biggest challenge with working with newbies is that they are transitioning usually from a consumerist model of thinking to a community model
[11:16] <kkathman> bashing anyone just creates animosity
[11:16] <rjb> *sigh* this vbetool package doesn't build on amd64
[11:17] <aseigo> callie: and so they step on toes quite a bit, usually without understanding, for instance, why yelling at someone doesn't get them better service like it does at mcdonalds ;)
[11:18] <Tudor_b> Entire copy of the Internet for sale. It takes about 53472543 DVDs, but if you're not found of porn, bring only 2
[11:18] <callie> aseigo: we all get frustrated sometimes, and true people hear of the magic land of linux and expect everything to work for them right away
[11:19] <callie> lol @ Tudor_b
[11:19] <callie> people need to drink more vodka with their linux
[11:19] <aseigo> s,vodka,scotch,
[11:20] <Tudor_b> try tuica
[11:20] <Tudor_b> :D
[11:20] <vytautas> hi
[11:20] <apollonius> can i get it without those 2 dvds?
[11:20] <callie> tuica?
[11:20] <rjb> does ubuntu have a public BTS, like debian's?
[11:20] <Tudor_b> callie> yes, romanian alcoholic drink
[11:20] <callie> can i get the other 53472541 dvds?
[11:20] <Tudor_b> the strongest shit ever
[11:20] <aseigo> pisco is good too
[11:21] <callie> i had this hungarian stuff the other day
[11:21] <callie> cant remember the name
[11:21] <Tudor_b> palinca...
[11:21] <Tudor_b> we also have it
[11:21] <Tudor_b> near the border...
[11:21] <callie> yes i think that was it
[11:21] <callie> lethal
[11:21] <Tudor_b> =))
[11:21] <callie> the first one was like alcholic rape
[11:22] <Tudor_b> callie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%A2uic%83
[11:23] <Lord_Athur> hi
[11:23] <callie> Tudor_b: We don't have an article called "uic"
[11:24] <Tudor_b> callie: just type tuica in the searchbox
[11:25] <callie> sounds the same as the hungarian variant
[11:25] <rjb> ok, CU
[11:25] <Tudor_b> yes
[11:25] <callie> the one i had was plum flavoured Tudor_b
[11:26] <Tudor_b> :D
[11:28] <Tudor_b> callie: where are you from, exactly?
[11:29] <callie> UK Tudor_b
[11:30] <Tudor_b> far away...
[11:35] <callie> perhaps
[11:42] <sas171> how to make firefox look more kdeish?
[11:43] <seth_k|lappy> install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[11:44] <sas171> gtk2-engines-gtk-qt is already the newest version
[11:50] <apachelogger> sas171: install crystalsvg theme for firefox
[11:55] <sas171> apachelogger: im running firefox 1.5 its only for 0.8-1
[11:57] <leftist> i am trying to play a wma file but it;s just a lost cause i think
[11:57] <leftist> any thoughts?
[11:57] <leftist> nothign works.
[11:58] <slow-motion> n8
[11:59] <leftist> what is the command to update all the components in kubuntu?