[14:59] <Fifo_freenode> Hi, I'm having some trouble running Ubuntu on my Mac mini on VirtualBox. It's too slow (using Ubuntu 12.10)
[14:59] <Fifo_freenode> Hi Neo31
[14:59] <Neo31> hi Fifo_freenode
[15:00] <hplc> anyone know if theres any book similar to "Self-Service Linux" by Prentice Hall?, or any similar online version?
[15:00] <skrator> zykotick9: yeah, sure, it was dumb to tell you that, lol
[15:01] <FunkyELF> what is a good, fast image previewer for Linux?
[15:01] <FunkyELF> where I can scroll through pictures one at a time with minimal lag between pictures?... one that pre-loads the next and previous picture into memory
[15:01] <pac1> jrib, as of today, I can't find anywhere it does owrk.
[15:02] <pac1> looks like ubuntu accepted the upstream changes from gnome.
[15:02] <jrib> pac1: looks like a setting you can change in your gtkrc
[15:02] <jrib> pac1: maybe
[15:03] <blasphemy69> is there a way to lock workstations on ubuntu unity?
[15:04] <Daekdroom> blasphemy69, crtl + alt + l?
[15:04] <blasphemy69> that will lock my computer
[15:04] <Daekdroom> (available through the power 'cog' menu too)
[15:04] <Daekdroom> Hm.
[15:04] <Daekdroom> Then what do you mean?
[15:04] <blasphemy69> by default i have 4 workstations, i want when i access a specific workstations, computer prompts for a password Daekdroom
[15:04] <jrib> pac1: https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkSettings.html#GtkSettings--gtk-enable-primary-paste just got changed to default false according to the link you pasted earlier
[15:05] <blasphemy69> a specific workstation*
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> blasphemy69  you mean 4 workspaces?
[15:08] <pac1> jrib, I added that to my gtk-3.0 settings.ini
[15:08] <pac1> br.
[15:08] <pac1> brb...
[15:09] <pac1> now let's see if the change worked.
[15:10] <pac1> ... not here. at least after logout and log back in.  I wonder if a reboot is needed..
[15:10] <pac1> or is there something that will cause gtk to restart.
[15:10] <BruceS> ffmpeg is giving me a message that it is deprecated and I should use avconv - so I tried to install avconv, where is it?
[15:11] <bekks> BruceS: ffmpeg isnt depricated. Use continue using it.
[15:12] <BruceS> bekks: the message that it gives me is that it is - why do you say that it is not?
[15:12] <jrib> bekks, BruceS: the "ffmpeg" command *is* deprecated in the avconv project
[15:12] <zykotick9> BruceS: avconv is in libav-tools
[15:12] <jrib> BruceS: you're not using ffmpeg, you're using avconv (the ffmpeg fork)
[15:13] <blasphemy69> is there any solution Daekdroom MonkeyDust locking workspaces on ubuntu unity
[15:14] <BruceS> zykotick9: my system when running synaptic tells me that libav-tools IS installed yet there is no man page etc.  How do I find and use avconv?
[15:15] <jrib> BruceS: you should have a man page for avconv
[15:15] <BruceS> jrib: indeed I do - OOPS
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> BruceS  winFF is a nice frontend for avconv/FFmpeg
[15:16] <zykotick9> BruceS: keep in mind, ffmpeg is still better at somethings then avconv....
[15:16] <BruceS> ty all so much  - this is why I love this channel and stick with Ubuntu rather than another distro
[15:17] <jrib> BruceS: there's some history here if you care: http://blog.pkh.me/p/13-the-ffmpeg-libav-situation.html
[15:17] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, avconv is no longer available on 13.10 , it's been replaced by ffmpeg :)
[15:17] <illum-mobile> Can anyone help me with this please? http://askubuntu.com/questions/348732/ubuntu-13-04-intel-amd-radaeon-hd8770m-problem
[15:17] <BruceS> zykotick9: ok - but if ffmpeg is deprecated then I really want to avoid it - our code tends to stick around for years and we have 100s of machines in coffee shops and bars all over the world
[15:17] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: ;) i see.  thanks.
[15:18] <BluesKaj> avconv wasn't very useful , ffmpeg was fine ..dunno why the change
[15:18] <zykotick9> BruceS: did you see BluesKaj comment above?  perhaps it is the reverse that is true for ubuntu.
[15:19] <jrib> BruceS: there's ffmpeg the command, and ffmpeg the project.  You aren't using the ffmpeg project.  You are using libav, which is a fork of the ffmpeg project.  In libav, they decided to deprecate the ffmpeg command.  But the ffmpeg project is still around (though not in 13.04's repos I think) and it still uses the ffmpeg command to do its thing
[15:19] <BruceS> BluesKaj: and zykotick9 I just love that - ffmpeg on 12.4 tells me it is deprecated and to use avconv and on 13.10 (which of course is not out yet) they apparently are going the other way
[15:20] <BluesKaj> BruceS, ignore the avconv message, ffmpeg is back and works as well as ever
[15:20] <BruceS> jrib: how would I get the real ffmpeg then - I did an apt-get install ffmpeg to get the one I have
[15:21] <OerHeks> BluesKaj, the FFMPEG metapackage points to AVconv ...]
[15:21] <BluesKaj> BruceS, avconv was merely a wrapper for ffmprg
[15:21] <BruceS> jrib: zykotick9 BluesKaj I just tested - and on other distros I do not get the message - so this seems to be some Canonical issue, is it?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, not on  13.10
[15:21] <jrib> BruceS: you'd probably have to build it if you really wanted it.  I would stay stick with what's packaged.
[15:22] <OerHeks> BluesKaj, oke, nice to know.
[15:22] <jrib> BruceS: it depends on whether you are using libav or ffmpeg on the other distros.  It *may* be a debian-specific patch to inform users that the ffmpeg command is actually being provided by libav
[15:22] <BruceS> jrib: I would certainly agree with that advice = but I do not want it to go away
[15:22] <jrib> BruceS: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libav/+bug/939863
[15:22] <BluesKaj> avconv is justa name , it's still ffmpeg underneath
[15:22] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: well, it's a fork really...
[15:22] <anonymous_> hey guys ...  i tried to install samba4 as Active Directory and a installer showed up which gave me no chance to configure my domain name and stuff ... can i change it afterwards ?
[15:23] <BruceS> jrib: no - I tried on real debian and ffmpeg does not give me the message - this is why I asked if it is a Cannonical issue
[15:23] <anonymous_> or is there a way to change it before the installer starts ?
[15:23] <zykotick9> BruceS: no, ffmpeg from debian (main) DOES give the deprecated message!
[15:24] <BruceS> zykotick9: then somehow I have a different ffmpeg or debian that you - mine does not - but I am thinking from all that all say here I will stick with ffmpeg and not worry
[15:24] <rudresh>  for wirless internet connection firmware missing what should i do for this i didnt getting anything
[15:24] <jrib> BruceS: it's a libav vs ffmpeg issue.  You may not be seeing it debian because the status there has changed but the latest ubuntu hasn't caught up yet (since ubuntu takes a snapshot of debian)
[15:24] <BruceS> we are moving our clients off ubuntu before the end of life on 12.4 anyway
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> BruceS  that would be 2017
[15:27] <BruceS> MonkeyDust: yes - that is why we are not in too much of a hurry - and why I like 12.4 LTS
[15:27] <TJ-> 13.04, how do we stop unity from automatically remounting LVM partitions when they are manually closed ("sudo vgchange -an VG") ?
[15:28] <dmavroid> hello could someone please let me know which channel is for support and help for ubuntu? thank you
[15:28] <dmavroid> oh! is this the correct channel?
[15:29] <Strit> Yes it is
[15:29] <dmavroid> lovely
[15:29] <anonymous_> but stillt no ones feels like helping me out though ;-D
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> FYI avconv is no longer in the 13.10 repos, ffmpeg is... just tested in a 13.10 chroot
[15:30] <dmavroid> i installed ubuntu 10 min. ago. could someone help me of what i have to do before starting to messing around with my new OS?
[15:30] <pac1> should the anonymous get help?
[15:30] <BruceS> MonkeyDust: wonderful - how confusing could they make it
[15:31] <pac1> anonymous_ , you haven't asked a question.
[15:31] <pac1> recently.
[15:31] <__marco> Hello, I built the qemu-kvm package for precise with vde support but then I cannot upload it to a repository with reprepro: file 'qemu-kvm_1.0+noroms.orig.tar.gz' is needed for ... not yet registered in the pool and not found in ....changes
[15:31] <__marco> in the .changes file there is no entry for the orig.tar.gz file but I don't know why
[15:32] <anonymous_>  i did :D  short version :    ubuntu 12.04 samba4 as AD -> apt-get install samba4 -> installer shows up -> no chance to change domain name or anything -> install done -> -> can i change it somehow without ruin the working domain ?
[15:32] <Strit> dmavroid, What do you mean? YOu don't have to do anything. :)
[15:32] <jrib> dmavroid: nothing, go ahead and mess around.  Maybe read the docs
[15:32] <jrib> dmavroid: help.ubuntu.com
[15:32] <__marco> should I build it with -b flag?
[15:32] <ikonia_> anonymous_: it requires a manual setup
[15:33] <BruceS> MonkeyDust: zykotick9 jrib:  the page: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9477115/who-can-tell-me-the-difference-and-relation-between-ffmpeg-libav-and-avconv covers this mess - and what a mess
[15:33] <dmavroid> Thanks guys! thats what i was expecting from ubuntu! to be AWESOME
[15:33] <anonymous_> is a there a working howto out there ? the ones i found are just outdated ;( ?
[15:33] <jrib> BruceS: is ffmpeg really replacing libav in ubuntu 13.10?
[15:33] <anonymous_> dont want to waste your time too much  guys :D
[15:33] <ikonia_> anonymous_: there isn't really a set "howto" as there are a lot of options.
[15:34] <ikonia_> anonymous_: most of the outdated guides should be valid as samba4 is still "new" and hasn't changed much in terms of setup / functionality
[15:34] <BluesKaj> just upgraded some packages on 13.10 , suddenly ffmpeg is depracated again ..why can't the devs lwabe a good thing alone ?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> leave a good thing alone
[15:35] <ikonia_> BluesKaj: raise a bug asking
[15:35] <BruceS> BluesKaj: this is exactly the sort of mess there is, I agree - it is idiotic things like this that keep Windoze and MacOS alive
[15:36] <jrib> BluesKaj: you're likely still using libav. And it's just stating (admittedly in a confusing way) that the ffmpeg is deprecated for the libav project; use avconv instead.  I think.  I haven't checked what's actually going on in 13.10
[15:36] <anonymous_> but still very different from each other , i was hoping to get some "thats the way it should be done" howto :-D ..... ok ikonia thank u very much for answering my questions :) have a nice day
[15:36] <BluesKaj> just like pulseaudio ...alsa was working just fine
[15:36] <ikonia_> anonymous_: there is no such way
[15:37] <marianne_> BluesKaj: because they don't have people like me working on the project. I don't know how many times I've told my developers that "just because you can, doesn't mean you should"
[15:37] <jrib> the bias probably comes from the fact the debian maintainer is one of the libav developers, but we may be veering off-topic at this point
[15:37] <BruceS> BluesKaj: the pules alsa is WORSE because they are not even compatible - at least it appears that avconv and ffmpeg accept the same command line parameters - at least the ones I use seem to work the same
[15:37] <BluesKaj> marianne_, yeah , shades of 2009 , pulseaudio as a sound server
[15:38] <pac1> jrib, adding that config item to /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini gtk-enable-primary-paste = true did not work
[15:38] <jrib> pac1: did you try adding to gtkrc-2.0 too?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> BruceS, ok , good to hear about avconv working for you
[15:38] <NEone> Hi. On Ubuntu 12.04 I need to create a CA, let it sign with a official paid cert, and then issue client-certs with it. Those should work for apache2 as well as for openvpn. How to do this? Use gnuTLS or openssl? Need to install+configure a DNS/BIND first?
[15:38] <marianne_> BluesKaj: yeah, I got hosed on that one and almost went to installing 'another' OS
[15:38] <pac1> there is no rc in /etc/gtk-2.0
[15:39] <geiowfj> Hello I want to stop booting into Xorg by default and just boot to tty. I'll run startx when I need xorg. How can I do this?
[15:39] <jrib> pac1: I use ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini
[15:39] <bekks> geiowfj: You shall not use startx anymore since thats depricated.
[15:39] <BruceS> NEone: openssl is what we have used for all cert stuff - however, you request is a little confusing
[15:39] <jrib> pac1: note that I believe the syntax differs between them
[15:40] <geiowfj> bekks it works in Debian, though. Isn't Ubuntu based on Debian?
[15:40] <marianne_> gaw... gotta go back to work, unless someone out there will break up this vendor whitepaper into 2 levels of support.... so boring!
[15:40] <pac1> no direcrory named .gtk*
[15:40] <bekks> geiowfj: Ubuntu isnt debian. Basically, its irrelevant whats working in Debian.
[15:40] <bl4ckdu5t> Why do I get a red caution symbol in my taskpane above even after all updates have been installed?
[15:40] <jrib> BruceS: it looks like libav still is used in 13.10 afaict.  My suggestion to you is to read the differences between libav and ffmpeg and decide for yourself which you want to use.  Libav is packaged in debian/ubuntu by default.  For ffmpeg you're going to have to rely on some third-party repository or build it yourself
[15:41] <jrib> pac1: I create those files
[15:41] <pac1> aha.
[15:41]  * bl4ckdu5t will appreciate an answer to his asked question
[15:41] <pac1> where do you get the syntax?
[15:42] <jrib> pac1: google :P
[15:42] <NEone> BruceS: Why confusing? What I want to achieve is: Customer needs to connect with openvpn using his client cert. Once that's done, he visits a virtual domain of the apache2 using his browser and again the client cert. Apache2 shall refuse to deliver the site if a) visitor is not in the tunnel or b) visitor does not have a valid client cert. Is this a possible scenario?
[15:42] <jrib> pac1: gtk-enable-primary-paste = 0
[15:42] <jrib> pac1: or 1 in your case
[15:42] <BruceS> jrib: I agree - and ty - we will stick with ffmpeg - despite its "deprecated" message until we are finally off ubuntu I think - I will hope that it will last as long as 12.4LTS
[15:42] <jrib> BruceS: you aren't using ffmpeg.
[15:42] <moises> hi all
[15:42] <pac1> brb trying  = 1
[15:43] <bl4ckdu5t> Why do I get a red caution symbol in my taskpane above on my Ubuntu 12.04 even after all updates have been installed?
[15:43] <jrib> BruceS: maybe we should use "Ffmpeg" for the project and "ffmpeg" for the command
[15:43] <BruceS> NEone: it is your signing scenario that sounds confusing
[15:43] <BruceS> jrib: GrEaT and create the same confusion as pErL
[15:43] <TJ-> NEone: If the tunnel has its own sub-net, you can discriminate on that as well as the ClientCertificate requirement
[15:44] <jrib> BruceS: well we either need to say "ffmpeg project" and "ffmpeg command" all the time or use some other convention as I think we're losing some of the intended meanings in what we say
[15:44] <moises> someone knows how to allow ufw to connect to 3306 on localhost?
[15:45] <moises> mysql works perfectly
[15:45] <bekks> moises: You should not allow remote mysql connectiosn unless you really know what you are doing there.
[15:45] <moises> but nc -v <IP_ADDRESS> 3306
[15:45] <BruceS> jrib: I thinki you are right ReAlLy - it is just sad they chose to make it so confusing - that's what that web page I found said
[15:45] <moises> bekks I only want to connect from localhost
[15:45] <jrib> BruceS: agreed.
[15:45] <NEone> Now I'm confused myself. Okay, let's start it that way: If I want to create a openssl CA, do I have to install+configure DNS/BIND first?
[15:46] <moises> I want to use postfix with mysql
[15:46] <moises> but it cannot connect to mysql
[15:46] <TJ-> NEone: no
[15:47] <pac1> jrib.  double click now pastes from the X11 selection buffer.  Thanks for your help.
[15:47] <BruceS> NEone: why do you want to create a CA - rather than just make certs and sign them
[15:47] <llutz> moises: "sudo ufw status" does it even filter localhost:3306?
[15:48] <jrib> pac1: i assume you mean "middle", but no problem :P
[15:48] <NEone> TJ-: Thanks. So how do I create a CA? And how can I avoid clients to show a cert warning because it's only self-signed? I need this own CA to be signed by any official cert-issuer, right?
[15:48] <moises> 3306 allow <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:48] <moises> and
[15:48]  * bl4ckdu5t thinks it's not nice the way some relevant questions are ignored on #ubuntu
[15:48] <jrib> pac1: by the way, it looks like that change was reverted too so it will probably get pulled down in a future update.  Not sure why you are getting these updates though; seems like you shouldn't be
[15:48] <moises> 3306 allow MY_IP
[15:48] <llutz> moises: "sudo lsof -i :3306"   and mysql really listens there?
[15:49] <JoBArTe_Skuld> hey guys
[15:49] <pac1> jrib. I'm wondering if I forgot that its a double click and not a single click.
[15:49] <TJ-> NEone: No, you won't find a root CA that will sign your own CA certs. You can however ensure that your CA certificate is installed on all systems that need to rely upon it
[15:49]  * bl4ckdu5t also thinks if anyone knows the right command to ask ubottu, then they should help ask ubottu rather than just being quiet
[15:49] <pac1> I'm going to undo the change and find out.
[15:49] <JoBArTe_Skuld> How to I turn off my computer from a terminal using a non-sudo user?
[15:49] <NEone> BruceS: I'll need to create about 1000 client certificates and sign them myself;) But I want to avoid the endusers seeing a cert-warning because it's all self-signed. So my CA/server needs to be signed by a paid cert first.
[15:49] <jrib> bl4ckdu5t: questions aren't ignored; they're just not answered when the answer isn't known by those who saw the question.  Instead of making random non-support-related comments, just repeat your question after a little while (~10 minutes imo) and get some fresh eyes on it
[15:50] <bl4ckdu5t> Why do I get a red caution symbol in my taskpane above on my Ubuntu 12.04 even after all updates have been installed?
[15:50] <TJ-> NEone: If you want to work with client certificates signed by a root CA I suggest you investigate using StartSSL's service, where you can issue as many certificates as you require once you've proved your identity.
[15:51] <moises> llutz: nothing lsof -i :3306
[15:51] <bekks> moises: Then you dont need ufw at all.
[15:51] <moises> llutz: yes with mysql
[15:51] <llutz> moises: "sudo lsof -i :3306"  = empty means that mysql DOES NOT listen
[15:51] <bekks> moises: You should configure your mysqld to allow connections from localhost only.
[15:51] <llutz> moises: check your mysql-config
[15:52] <moises> llutz, bekks thank you, i'm going to work in this
[15:52] <NEone> TJ-: Thanks for the hint, will have a look at this StartSSL service or will just install my own CA's cert as "trusted" on the client devices. Now for the second case: How do I create my own CA?
[15:52] <JoBArTe_Skuld> How to I turn off my computer from a terminal using a non-sudo user?
[15:52] <JoBArTe_Skuld> How to I turn off my computer from a terminal using a non-sudo user?
[15:52] <jrib> JoBArTe_Skuld: are you in X?
[15:53] <TJ-> NEone: For openvpn see the easy-rsa tool: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/miscellaneous/77-rsa-key-management.html
[15:53] <JoBArTe_Skuld> [jrib]: nop
[15:53] <pac1> jrib,  I"m very confused.  I removed the line with the setting from the settings file.  Now it works with just a single click...
[15:53] <pac1> strange...
[15:53] <jrib> JoBArTe_Skuld: then I don't think you should be able to
[15:53] <jrib> pac1: could be your settings aren't being reset
[15:53] <zerodivided> HI, I'm having a problem where I get kicked back to the login screen everytime I try to login
[15:54] <llutz> JoBArTe_Skuld: you should add the user in question to the sudoers-list and give him access only to /sbin/halt
[15:54] <jrib> zerodivided: create a fresh new user and see if it happens there
[15:54] <pac1> possible.  I'll try a reboot later.
[15:54] <JoBArTe_Skuld> [llutz]: hmmm, true
[15:54] <zerodivided> its just my user. My girlfriends account works
[15:54] <pac1> although the double click to single click change is kind of odd.
[15:54] <zerodivided> I noticed that /home/me/.Xauthority is missing for my account
[15:55] <jrib> zerodivided: check ~/.xsession-errosr
[15:55] <jrib> zerodivided: check ~/.xsession-errors
[15:55] <zerodivided> Jrib: ok
[15:55] <jrib> bl4ckdu5t: is it asking you to reboot maybe?
[15:56] <TJ-> 13.04, how do we stop unity from automatically rescanning/opening LVM LVs when they are manually closed ("sudo vgchange -an $VG") - dconf org.desktop.media-handling.automount doesn't stop it ?
[15:56] <JoBArTe_Skuld> [llutz]: if user can turn off by X, why isnt possible by terminal?
[15:57] <bekks> JoBArTe_Skuld: It is possible. sudo service lightdm stop
[15:57] <BadK1tty> is anyone else having issues getting  libsdl1.2-dev to install?
[15:58] <jrib> JoBArTe_Skuld: lightdm runs as root and the user sends a message to lightdm to turn off the computer
[15:58] <jrib> JoBArTe_Skuld: I think
[15:58] <JoBArTe_Skuld> [bekks]: but in this case is necessary sudo commando
[15:58] <strikov> Hello guys! I built software RAID1 configuration and want to test it (by unplugging one of the hard drives). Docs say that I should see initramfs promt in degraded mode and then do some steps to boot. But the only thing I see is an empty boot screen (with purple background) w/o any possibility to switch to other terminal and so on. What I'm doing wrong? I'm using 12.04. Thanks.
[15:58] <bekks> JoBArTe_Skuld: Yes.
[15:58] <JoBArTe_Skuld> when I turn off by X i not put password
[15:58] <zerodivided> jrib: here is my ~/.xsession-errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/6141793
[15:58] <bekks> JoBArTe_Skuld: You need root access.
[15:59] <bekks> JoBArTe_Skuld: Which means you need to use sudo.
[15:59] <zerodivided> jrib: I had to go into ctrl+alt+f4 terminal to get it
[16:00] <jrib> zerodivided: create a directory called "brokenx" and start moving dotfiles and dot directories in there until X works
[16:00] <jrib> zerodivided: perhaps start with .compiz
[16:01] <zerodivided> jrib: ok, ill give it a shot
[16:01] <zerodivided> thanks
[16:03] <oaulakh> how to backup ubuntu in easy way
[16:03] <INSmusic> acronis
[16:03] <ARW0> Heyo
[16:04] <oaulakh> nothing is working bot links so dont prefer it again
[16:04] <INSmusic> when u say backup, u mean img backup?
[16:04] <OerHeks> oaulakh, the page ubottu gave you gives multiple solutions, they work
[16:04] <oaulakh> yeah
[16:04] <oaulakh> not working for me bro
[16:04] <ss_haze> steam appears to not start at all
[16:04] <ss_haze> what should I do
[16:05] <OerHeks> oaulakh, why "not working", what did you do?
[16:06] <DJones> ss_haze: There is #ubuntu-steam that may be the best channel to ask that question
[16:06] <oaulakh> i install dupliciity
[16:06] <oaulakh> i install ncftp
[16:07] <oaulakh> but dunno what do next
[16:07] <JoBArTe_Skuld> duplicity?
[16:07] <JoBArTe_Skuld> [oaulakh]: duplicity?
[16:07] <ss_haze> + I got unuasally high temperature
[16:07] <A1Recon> How do I generate the config file for a IR remote??Trying to work with LIRC .
[16:07] <bekks> oaulakh: Either you want to use ncftp or duplicity. And the links given to you even describe how to use duplicity, e.g.
[16:07] <JoBArTe_Skuld> [oaulakh]: what you happens?
[16:07] <oaulakh> yeah duplicity its in tutorials that bot gave me
[16:08] <oaulakh> can i amke backup of ubuntu on my pc execpt ftp server
[16:08] <bekks> oaulakh: You can makle a backup of your server, as described in the links already given.
[16:08] <oaulakh> can i make my backup of ubuntu on my pc execpt ftp server
[16:08] <JoBArTe_Skuld> [oaulakh]: look this, I use for all my servers
[16:09] <JoBArTe_Skuld> [oaulakh]: http://zertrin.org/projects/duplicity-backup/
[16:09] <JoBArTe_Skuld> and project on github
[16:09] <JoBArTe_Skuld> https://github.com/zertrin/duplicity-backup
[16:10] <oaulakh> but i dont want to make backup on server bro, i just want to make it on pc like windows do
[16:10] <ledtc> Hello guys. i just added a network card to my ubuntu server, but it dosnt send the internet trafic over it. Im running a VPN connection on the main card. Do i  need to change the DNS ? Please give short explanation and link to more info. thx
[16:10] <oaulakh> can i use tar for backup?
[16:11] <oaulakh> if yes then how?
[16:11] <bekks> oaulakh: Please start reading the links given.
[16:12] <oaulakh> okk
[16:14] <fahadash> Whats the easiest way to download ncurses package through command line ?
[16:14] <jrib> !apt | fahadash
[16:15] <ledtc> ello guys. i just added a network card to my ubuntu server, but it dosnt send the internet trafic over it. Im running a VPN connection on the main card. Do i  need to change the DNS ? Please give short explanation and link to more info. thx
[16:19] <__marco> when dpkg-buildpackages exits with an error code, can I restart it exaclty when it stopped? I forgot to import the gpg keys and I could not sign the dsc file and I don't want to start again the compilation phase (it is a virtual machine)
[16:21] <warlock_mza> after a 3/4 years of updating a headless ubuntu server it's now on 12.04, any tips on cleaning it up removing anything but the base server install without re-installing?
[16:21] <oaulakh> how to decrease brightness in ubuntu?
[16:21] <NEone> oaulakh: If you have physical access to your Ubuntu computer, you could also have a look at "Acronis Backup+Recovery for Linux" or the free boot-CD named "clonezilla".
[16:22] <NEone> (for the backup, not for the brightness, lol)
[16:23] <oaulakh> clonezilla?
[16:23] <oaulakh> link?
[16:24] <oaulakh> yeah i knw its for backup
[16:25] <oaulakh> when i was using windows, it was easy to make backup with ghost 11.5 boot cd
[16:25] <bekks> !clonezilla | oaulakh
[16:25] <bekks> hmm
[16:25] <warlock_mza> hi
[16:26] <oaulakh> but nortonghost not working for ubuntu too
[16:26] <bekks> oaulakh: Thats a windows software.
[16:26] <oaulakh> right
[16:26] <bekks> oaulakh: Why are you refusing to read the links giveb?
[16:26] <bekks> *given
[16:26] <trism> __marco: if that is all you missed, I think you should just be able to run debsign with the changes file
[16:26] <oaulakh> i read the link and make backup with tar
[16:27] <oaulakh> but doubt if crash on restoring sometime, beacuse i dont know much about ubuntu
[16:27] <bekks> oaulakh: If that suits your needs best, sure.
[16:27] <bekks> oaulakh: Then its not a good choice.
[16:28] <oaulakh> well i use that tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR
[16:28] <NEone> oaulakh: clonezilla.org . But actually the Acronis is much better, but it costs a lot of money.
[16:28] <oaulakh> is it good
[16:28] <bekks> oaulakh: No, since you dont knwo how to restore it.
[16:29] <bekks> oaulakh: Or do you know how to restore a crashed server from a tarball?
[16:29] <NEone> Or a commandline based backup with the "dd" command might even be enough...
[16:29] <__marco> trism: I'm trying to understand how dpkg-buildpackage proceed but I don't know perl. I need to perform steeps 6, 7, 8 from the dpkg-buildpackage man page
[16:29] <__marco> trism: and I'm to new to the deb building system to do it manually
[16:30] <bekks> oaulakh: Dont send notices. Thank you.
[16:30] <bekks> oaulakh: Then dont use tar if you dont know how to use it.
[16:30] <oaulakh> ok
[16:30] <bekks> oaulakh: Read the links carefully, there a several other solutions.
[16:31] <trism> __marco: you may be best off just rerunning the build then, you could ask in #ubuntu-packaging though
[16:31] <NEone> clonezilla is probably the most easy one. Restore is only possible for the whole box, not for single files out of that image, though.
[16:32] <hplc> anyone know of a site with large collection of scripts? need to look for ideas
[16:32] <__marco> trism: I'm going to try #ubuntu-packaging, thanks. It is a VM in an old laptop, the build phase is long...
[16:32] <oaulakh> well i dont know about other either
[16:32] <oaulakh> can you send me links again
[16:35] <bekks> !backup | oaulakh
[16:40] <oaulakh> well i made it thanks bekks
[16:40] <oaulakh> its easy to restore with tar
[16:40] <oaulakh> practice with you like guys makes man perfect
[16:41] <Taylr0x> Just done an install of the latest Ubuntu release on my Dell XPS m153 laptop and my wirless isn't working/doesn't seem to be available yet I can connect to a network via wired. Anyone know how I go about getting my wireless to work?
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | Taylr0x start here
[16:42] <Pernicious-Taint> I installed 13.04 a couple weeks ago and wireless was working already when i logged in.
[16:42] <Pernicious-Taint> Not sure how or why lol
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> Pernicious-Taint  you too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:42] <zykotick9> Pernicious-Taint: it depends on the hardware/driver-firmware involved.  some work OOTB, others... not so much
[16:43] <Pernicious-Taint> Thanx, i will peep it out
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> Pernicious-Taint  misread, apologies
[16:43] <Pernicious-Taint> all good :)
[16:43] <oaulakh> how to decrease brightness in ubuntu not working for me in settings
[16:44] <oaulakh> how to decrease brightness in ubuntu not working for me in settings
[16:44] <BadK1tty> 13.04 installing libsdl1.2-dev error unmet dependencies apt-get cannot find the library files to install the dependencies any help would be appreciated thanks
[16:45] <zykotick9> BadK1tty: libsdl1.2 is old...  good luck.
[16:46] <BadK1tty> well pioneer req the files to compile the source according to the txt file
[16:46] <BadK1tty> is there a newer version  that will meet the requirements
[16:46] <sporks> what is the exact command for changing from gnome to lxde? have tried a few but they didn't take
[16:46] <__marco> trism: thanks, finally I used debsign
[16:46] <ChogyDan> BadK1tty: can you pastebin the whole command and error?
[16:47] <zykotick9> BadK1tty: probably not.  can you paste.ubuntu.com the output for the apt-get?  lol ChogyDan suggestion, v2.
[16:47] <BadK1tty> well i attempted the install from software center then attempted an apt-get of the dependency and an update when that failed ill paste the msg one moment
[16:47] <ChogyDan> zykotick9: libsdl1.2-dev exists in saucy, fwiw
[16:48] <oaulakh> how to decrease brightness in ubuntu not working for me in settings
[16:48] <BadK1tty> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:48] <BadK1tty> libsdl1.2-dev: Depends: libsdl1.2debian (= 1.2.15-5ubuntu1) but 1.2.15-5ubuntu1 is to be installed
[16:48] <zykotick9> ChogyDan: ture, but libsdl1.2 is still old.  a lot of the old gnu/linux games had this as a dependency.
[16:48] <DevilsGuardian> hello everyone
[16:49] <BadK1tty> [sudo] password for badk1tty:
[16:49] <BadK1tty> Reading package lists... Done
[16:49] <BadK1tty> Building dependency tree
[16:49] <BadK1tty> Reading state information... Done
[16:49] <BadK1tty> E: Unable to locate package libglul-mesa-dev
[16:49] <FloodBot1> BadK1tty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:49] <ChogyDan> BadK1tty: the entire command and error and output, on paste.ubuntu.com
[16:49] <Dwade09--> how do i burn ubuntu iso to cd?
[16:49] <Dwade09--> in windows
[16:49] <ikonia_> !install | Dwade09--
[16:50] <zykotick9> Dwade09--: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[16:50] <Taylr0x> MonkeyDust, Many thanks. I checked that page and the drivers are stated to be included with anything later than Ubuntu 8.10. I've had a look via lspci -v and I can see my network controller. Does this mean the drivers are installed just not enabled/functioning?
[16:50] <zykotick9> ikonia_: above link sent to Dwade09-- taken from !burn ;)
[16:51] <Rory> Taylr0x: Can you please post the output of the command: "lspci -v" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:51] <Impossible> does ubuntu have a debs folder?
[16:51] <Rory> Impossible: Could you re-phrase that maybe? What are you trying to do?
[16:51] <Impossible> sure
[16:52] <BadK1tty> its pasted
[16:52] <ChogyDan> BadK1tty: you need to post a link here to the webpage
[16:52] <BadK1tty> np thanks
[16:53] <BadK1tty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6141987/
[16:53] <Impossible> i am trying to install libre office and this is the intructions http://pastebin.com/AmrdRgQD
[16:53] <Impossible> it says i need to rename the subdirectory DEBS to DEBS? its already named DEBS or is it saying to put it in a folder already named DEEBS
[16:53] <Impossible> rory
[16:54] <ridingbeast> whats the prob?
[16:54] <jrib> Impossible: libreoffice is in the repositories.
[16:54] <Rory> Impossible: You don't need to do that
[16:54] <param> Hello channel. I am trying to install hadoop on my ubuntu 12.04, so i have to install Java and update my ubuntu, so I am getting an error
[16:54] <Impossible> its the onld version
[16:54] <param> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[16:54] <Impossible> this is 4xxx
[16:54] <param> how to fix this error ?
[16:54] <Rory> param: reboot and try again.
[16:54] <ridingbeast> sudo
[16:54] <Rory> ridingbeast: no, that's a different error
[16:54] <trism> BadK1tty: it is libglu1-mesa-dev not libglul-mesa-dev, 1 not the letter L
[16:55] <param> i reboot it
[16:55] <param> still same error
[16:55] <Rory> Impossible: it means use the command "cd DEBS" to change into the DEBS directory
[16:55] <saiarcot895> !dpkglock | param
[16:55] <BadK1tty> wow i feel dumb now
[16:56] <BadK1tty> let me try that trism thank you
[16:56] <Rory> saiarcot895: That's a handy one, I'll remember that
[16:56] <trism> BadK1tty: don't I didn't notice it until after I got the error too, in my font they look identical
[16:56] <Taylr0x> Rory, Done.
[16:56] <Impossible> Rory thanks!
[16:56] <Taylr0x> Rory, How do I get it so you can see it?
[16:56] <Rory> Taylr0x: Tell me the URL
[16:56] <Taylr0x> Rory, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6142006/
[16:57] <Rory> Taylr0x: Can you do the same for the command: ifconfig
[16:57] <param> Thanks Ubottu , issue resolved :)
[16:57] <Rory> Taylr0x: Also are you having trouble with the wifi or the wired?
[16:57] <BadK1tty> this is the new paste:
[16:57] <BadK1tty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6142009/
[16:57] <Rory> BadK1tty: sudo apt-get -f install
[16:58] <BadK1tty> same deal
[16:59] <BadK1tty> i saw that switch in a similar post on another site
[16:59] <Rory> BadK1tty: Can you trysudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dev
[16:59] <zykotick9> BadK1tty: i'd try "sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libgl-dev"
[16:59] <Rory> BadK1tty: Yes do that ^
[17:00] <zykotick9> BadK1tty: sorry libglu1-mesa-dev is repeated twice...
[17:00] <param> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6142015/   How to fix this ?
[17:00] <param> i want to install jdk6
[17:01] <Rory> param: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[17:01] <BadK1tty> this is the new output
[17:01] <BadK1tty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6142022/
[17:01] <ChogyDan> param: probably 6 is no longer available
[17:01] <param> 12.04
[17:01] <Rory> param: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[17:01] <Taylr0x> Rory, wired is working fine. Seems wireless is a no go though. Almost as if it doesn't exist on the laptop. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6142024/
[17:01] <zykotick9> BadK1tty: if you haven't yet run "sudo apt-get update" try that first!
[17:01] <BadK1tty> i did
[17:01] <trism> BadK1tty: you have -updates disabled
[17:01] <ChogyDan> param: oh, and sun doesn't exist anymore.  It is oracle now
[17:01] <param> oh ok
[17:01] <param> its of 139 mb
[17:02] <trism> BadK1tty: go into software-properties-gtk and enable Recommended Updates on the Updates tab
[17:02] <param> shall i proceed ?
[17:02] <trism> BadK1tty: then rerun: sudo apt-get update; and try installing again
[17:02] <zykotick9> BadK1tty: "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." what is the output of "sudo apt-get -f install"
[17:02] <BadK1tty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6142009/
[17:03] <Rory> BadK1tty: What is the output of: sudo apt-get -f install
[17:03] <param> sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk  do i have to run this command ?
[17:03] <Rory> !info openjdk-6-jdk precise
[17:04] <Rory> param: Yes
[17:04] <ChogyDan> param: it is oracle now.  If you need the closed source one, you need to change sun to oracle
[17:05] <fahadash> Is there any apt-get package for SSH Server ?
[17:05] <llutz> !info openssh-server | fahadash
[17:05] <Rory> fahadash: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[17:05] <BadK1tty> outstanding your awsome good eye trism thank you :)
[17:05] <BadK1tty> sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev
[17:06] <BadK1tty> oops lol wrong window
[17:06] <fahadash> Thanks Rozy
[17:06] <BadK1tty> :*)
[17:06] <fahadash> Another question
[17:06] <Dwade09--> i have a 700 mb blank cd i am trying to put ubuntu on but it wont burn to the cd
[17:06] <fahadash> I had my /dev/sdb2 open in a terminal based hex editor, I clicked "Maximize" button and now its all hung up, what do I do ?
[17:06] <BadK1tty> you guys are great thanks so much! :)
[17:06] <ChogyDan> Dwade09--: what version? 12.04.3?
[17:06] <zykotick9> Dwade09--: some ubuntu images are too large for CD, can you use a DVD?
[17:07] <bekks> fahadash: Why are you editing sda2 with a hex editor?
[17:07] <Dwade09--> ChogyDan,  yes 12.04
[17:07] <fahadash> bekks: I was just looking at it
[17:07] <Dwade09--> zykotick9,  i dont have a dvd
[17:07] <Rory> Dwade09--: Ubuntu no longer fits on a CD, you need to use a DVD or a flash drive
[17:07] <Rory> !install | Dwade09--
[17:07] <fahadash> bekks: Can I force-close this terminal? would it be safe because /dev/sdb2 is open with it
[17:07] <DJones> Dwade09--: The ubuntu isos are too large for a cd, you have to use either a dvd or a usb stick (certainly for the last couple of releases anyway), 12.04.3 also appears to have grown making it too big for a cd
[17:07] <Dwade09--> Rory,  i would if i could i dont have that options
[17:07] <fahadash> OMG, Whole ubuntu is hung up
[17:07] <bekks> fahadash: Unless you did change something it is safe.
[17:08] <Rory> Dwade09--: You can purchase Ubuntu installation media also through the Canonical store
[17:08] <fahadash> bekks: How do I terminate it ?
[17:08] <Rory> fahadash: xkill, then click it
[17:08] <bekks> fahadash: Click the close button.
[17:08] <Dwade09--> Rory,  i would rather go buy a stupid 5gb usb rather than wait for the cd of ubuntu in the mail.
[17:08] <bekks> fahadash: Click the close icon.
[17:09] <Rory> Dwade09--: Those are your options - it doesn't fit on a CD because it's bigger than 700MiB and CDs are only 700MiB
[17:09] <fahadash> bekks: The whole ubuntu interface is frozen, I see the "|" text editor one , cursor all over the place
[17:09] <saiarcot895> Dwade09--: I think you'll have to go up to 6 GB or 8 GB USB (I don't know 5 GB USB sticks)
[17:09] <Rory> Dwade09--: DO you not have a flash drive lying around? Even a 1GiB one?
[17:09] <fahadash> bekks: Is there any CTRL + ALT +DEL alternative here ?
[17:09] <bekks> fahadash: Thats not an alternative.
[17:09] <Dwade09--> Rory,  i have a 1TB external hd but it wont read with unetbootin
[17:10] <Rory> fahadash: You can use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to a different TTY, and use the kill application
[17:10] <DJones> !minimal | Dwade09-- This may be an option,
[17:10] <Dwade09--> Rory,  its usb but it wont show up as usb in unetbootin
[17:10] <Benkinooby> !alternate
[17:10] <Rory> Dwade09--: Try using LiLiUSB it's my favourite USB creation tool
[17:11] <Dwade09--> Rory,  is that for windows?
[17:11] <Rory> Dwade09--: Yes
[17:11] <fahadash> Rory: How do I get the process id of that process? ps gives me only current terminal's processes
[17:11] <Rory> fahadash: ps aux | grep processname
[17:11] <Rory> fahadash: or killall processname
[17:11] <Dwade09--> i dont see it for windows Rory
[17:12] <Rory> Dwade09--: It is only for windows http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[17:13] <fahadash> Rory: I killed the process, how do I go back to gnome2 ?
[17:14] <Rory> fahadash: ctrl+alt+f7
[17:14] <zykotick9> fahadash: alt+f7
[17:14] <Rory> fahadash: I think it's f7, try a few of them
[17:14] <zykotick9> Rory: fyi, ctrl is ONLY required when you are in Xorg.
[17:14] <Rory> zykotick9: TIL, thanks
[17:16] <DJones> Dwade09--: Just as another option, you may find that the 12.04.2 image may fit on a standard cd, that appears to be downloadable from http://mirror.umd.edu/ubuntu-iso/12.04/ & would just need updating once installed
[17:16] <zykotick9> Rory: fyi2, alt+LeftORRight_ARROW is pretty handy as well.
[17:17] <Dwade09--> thank you DJones  i am trying Rory s idea with liliusb
[17:21] <Dwade09--> Rory,  i tried that liliusb and it says operating system not found
[17:23] <Dwade09--> Rory,  it instaleld virtual box on the usb not the ubuntu iso
[17:28] <Dwade09--> guys i have a 1TB external usb hard drive how can i put the 12.04 ubuntu linux on there to install it onto another computer? i am in windows.
[17:31] <bl4ckdu5t> A red irritating caution symbol keeps displaying on my task pane even when I have all my updates installed! How can I get rid of this?
[17:31] <Strit> Most UDB harddrives require some form of drivers to work. Most can not be used as boot option in BIOS.
[17:32] <git-user> What's a reliable way to shrink my Ubuntu partition?
[17:32] <Strit> G-Parted.
[17:33] <bekks> git-user: Backup, and use gparted.
[17:33] <git-user> Strit: it won't break the installation?
[17:33] <bekks> git-user: It may.
[17:33] <Strit> git-user, there is a chance, so remember to backup your system. :)
[17:34] <Strit> git-user, haven't really needed to shrink an ubuntu partition yet. Only windows partitions.
[17:35] <Dwade09> guys i have a 1TB usb external hard drive i am trying to make it where i can put ubuntu on there so i can install it on my other laptop but everything i try liliusb and unetbootin won't work, liliusb installs a virtuabox to be rain while using windows and unetbootin won't read my external hard drive.
[17:35] <git-user> Strit: me too. This is Dell laptop that came with Ubuntu pre-installed in a parition that spans almost 90% of the HDD.
[17:36] <Strit> git-user, and you want to ADD windows?? :P
[17:37] <Strit> Dwade09, 1 TB drive for that would be overkill. Try with a USB stick instead.
[17:37] <Taylr0x> Rory, Managed to figure it out. How to install a different firmware version. For some reason it didn't have it by default.
[17:37] <Dwade09> Strit,  if i had one i would i dont. i have what i have to work with on hand a 700 mb cd and a 1TB external hard drive
[17:38] <git-user> Strit: :( sadly yes.
[17:39] <git-user> The Ubuntu installation is carefully configured by OEM, so I don't want to break it.
[17:39] <Benkinooby> git-user: depending on what you need maybe running windows in a virtual machine might be favourable?
[17:39] <git-user> There's a program called dell-recovery which claims to be able to generate an ISO image (~2.2 GiB) using which I can reinstall Ubuntu and it would be configured the same way as it was when the Laptop was shipped.
[17:40] <bekks> git-user: Carefully configured? :) It's a stock OEM image, without any modifications to your needs. :)
[17:40] <bekks> git-user: Just back it up before proceeding.
[17:41] <git-user> bekks: the drivers, suspend/resume, the fan and all are working nicely.
[17:42] <Benkinooby> git-user: why not run windows inside a virtual machine? no need to repartition
[17:42] <Strit> Dwade09, Not sure that a USB Harddrive can be set to a bootable drive in BIOS. :(
[17:43] <Strit> git-user, I aggre with Benkinooby ,
[17:43] <Dwade09> Strit,  its how i installed windows its doable but idk how to do it with linux.
[17:43] <Benkinooby> Strit: Dwade09 no need to. the hdd needs a boot sector. and the biso must be able to boot from it. usually you can set the boot order
[17:43] <Dwade09> Strit, http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7vista-from-usb-drive-detailed-100-working-guide/ its for windows.
[17:44] <Benkinooby> *bios
[17:44] <git-user> Benkinooby, Strit: Okay I'll try that.
[17:44] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: is there anything on that hard disc that is important to you?
[17:44] <Dwade09> Benkinooby,  unetbootin wont read my external and liliusb doesn't work right for me. idk what else i can do. cd's are too small now. i have no pendrives.
[17:45] <Rory> Dwade09: The process is the same just use one of the many USB installation tools for Linux like unetbootin or LiLiUSB - in unetbootin there's a button you need to press called "show all drives" or siilar
[17:45] <Strit> Dwade09, Try this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[17:45] <Benkinooby> git-user: what do you need the windows for? for light tasks, a vm will be ok. but not for gaming
[17:45] <Dwade09> Rory,  i did that but it wont show up in unetbootin.
[17:45] <Dwade09> Strit,  im on windows.
[17:45] <Rory> Dwade09: It needs to be Fat32 formatted, not NTFS I believe
[17:46] <Dwade09> Rory,  it is fat32, but it wont show under unetbootin and liliusb only installs a virtual drive.
[17:46] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: what os are you using currently?
[17:46] <Dwade09> Benkinooby,  win 7.
[17:47] <drvanon> I have a little problem, I want to install psycopg2 for python3.3 if possible with virtualenv. Any directions on how I would accomplish this?
[17:47] <Strit> Dwade09, okay. I used this one: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows Not sure if it will work with your USB harddrive though.
[17:47] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: ok, so you have to create that bootable linux thing from windows?
[17:47] <Dwade09> Benkinooby,  yes
[17:47] <Rory> Dwade09: LiLi makes the Linux files hidden in Windows
[17:48] <Benkinooby> git-user: what do you want to do with that windows? virtual machines are ok for testing and light tasks. if you want to game with it you probably won't be happy
[17:48] <Rory> Dwade09: Are you sure you're booting from USB?
[17:48] <Dwade09> Rory,  yes i am sure im loading from usb and also Benkinooby  yes.
[17:49] <git-user> Benkinooby: then, I guess I'll have to take the risk and attempt to shrink /
[17:49] <bl4ckdu5t> A red irritating caution symbol keeps displaying on my task pane even when I have all my updates installed! How can I get rid of this?
[17:49] <Benkinooby> git-user: if you want to play heavy games, yes.
[17:50] <Benkinooby> git-user: just to assure you: i never had trouble with shrinking - but you can never be sure, so do your backup - i do it too ;)
[17:50] <Strit> bl4ckdu5t, try running "sudo apt-get -f install"
[17:50] <Dwade09> Rory,  and Strit  i tried that just now it said my usb external will not be bootable.
[17:52] <Strit> Dwade09, you can probably download a smaller Ubuntu variant and put it on your 700 MB CD then.
[17:52] <Dwade09> Strit,  Benkinooby  Rory  http://imagebin.org/271639 under the unetbootin for usb it just has usb and it wont let me pick anything under what drive.
[17:53] <git-user> Benkinooby: thanks. And how would I virtualize Windows in Ubuntu? Using VirtualBox or VMvare or Xen or KVM or Qemu or what?
[17:53] <Dwade09> Strit,  i been trying to find a smaller version of 12.04 but i cant
[17:53] <bl4ckdu5t> Strit: I just did and it's still there
[17:54] <Strit> Dwade09, I mean another variant, like Lubuntu: http://www.lubuntu.net/
[17:55] <Benkinooby> git-user: depends. as a normal user, i think virtualbox is best for you. simple, easy to set up. vmware is simiar easy but commerciaf afaik. xen, kvm and a like are advanced.
[17:55] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: here, use minimal install https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[17:56] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: those images only have what they really need to boot. all the other stuff will be downloaded during install
[17:56] <Dwade09> il l try that Benkinooby  thank you i will let you know. thank you Strit
[17:57] <ss_haze> I have multiple screens
[17:57] <ss_haze> and my problem is nautilus gets icons out of screen
[17:57] <ss_haze> when I connect second one
[17:57] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: don't be afraid, it look pretty raw during install ;) but you can tell it to install everything you need for a desktop computer and after install you will ahve a nice login and all that
[17:58] <Dwade09> Benkinooby,  is that a command type of install or gui?
[17:58] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: ?
[17:58] <Strit> bl4ckdu5t, you probably have some missing keys. try running a "sudo apt-get update" and it will tell you which are missing.
[17:58] <Benkinooby> i don't understand your question
[17:58] <ledtc> So i added a new nic to my server, so that i can connect to 2 diffrent Subnets, how ever when i hookt it all up my original card when black, it managed to receive DHCP information but i cant ping it.
[17:58] <Dwade09> Benkinooby,  when i boot using that minemal will it be command prompted or gui as in graphical?
[17:58] <ss_haze> anybody know how to fix nautilus screen size bug, with icons out of screen?
[17:58] <Strit> Dwade09, Minimal Cd is a command'ish install called CLI. :)
[17:58] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: ah ok got it. it looks like command line, but you can navigate
[17:58] <Dreamscape> hello all, can anyone tell me how to make the changes within /etc/resolv.conf perminent? (running ubuntu server 13.04)
[17:59] <Dwade09> Benkinooby,  do i burn it to a cd like data? or how?
[17:59] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: it will give you menus and list where you can select stuff. and there are "button" you can click.
[17:59] <DJones> !minimal | Dwade09 This is the link I gave you earlier regarding the minimal install iso, it is text based, the link has details about it,
[17:59] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: what program are you using to burn?
[18:00] <Dwade09> Benkinooby,  i cn use infrarecorder
[18:00] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: hm, i don'T know that software. do you have something like "burn image" or so?
[18:00] <Dwade09> Benkinooby,  no, do i burn it as image/iso or as data?
[18:01] <ss_haze> by 14.04 pls invent moving unity sidebar to buttom
[18:01] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: image
[18:02] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: just out of interest: on what device do you plan to install ubuntu?
[18:02] <Dwade09> Benkinooby, ? a blank cd.
[18:03] <Strit> Dwade09, he means what laptop...? :)
[18:03] <Dwade09> oh Strit  and Benkinooby  a laptop
[18:03] <simpleshit_> Wow this is an active chat
[18:04] <simpleshit_> was having trouble with komunicator for some reason
[18:04] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: ok. can you connect your laptop to the router with a cable? it will make install faster and easier
[18:04] <simpleshit_> what is everyone in private messagine
[18:04] <OerHeks> !details | simpleshit_
[18:05] <Dwade09> Benkinooby,  yes via cord
[18:05] <simpleshit_> Oh, I was wondering how one would install another distro of linux on top of an already dual booted system running a derivative of ubuntu
[18:06] <OerHeks> we don't know about derivates, really.
[18:06] <simpleshit_> And I wanted to explore Irc and this is the default channel lol
[18:06] <bl4ckdu5t> Strit: Yea you're right! some index failed to download
[18:06] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: ok, cord is good. usually wireless will not work during install - because of drivers an all that. if you have cord, everything is good :)
[18:06] <OerHeks> should be the same procedure as installing side by side simpleshit_
[18:07] <bl4ckdu5t> I get 404 not found from some of the download sources being checked
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> bl4ckdu5t  what sources? sure they're not !eol?
[18:08] <simpleshit_> would ubuntu be the best choice for a raspberry pi installation
[18:08] <Strit> bl4ckdu5t, Try removing the PPA's containing those and sudo apt-get update. .)
[18:08] <bl4ckdu5t> MonkeyDust:  I got this "W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Unable to connect to extras.ubuntu.com:http:
[18:08] <bl4ckdu5t> "
[18:09] <bl4ckdu5t> PPA?
[18:10] <simpleshit_> I remember the good old days when broadcom was a bitch to get up and running, you had to encapsulate the windows driver in a program that would make it readable in linux, fun fun
[18:10] <simpleshit_> I forget the name of that program
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> bl4ckdu5t  it's because "Packages" is not there    http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/
[18:10] <bartzy> Can someone that never changed their /etc/nsswitch.conf file on Ubuntu 12.10, paste it for me ?
[18:10] <simpleshit_> wasnt the mad...bla blabla
[18:10] <simpleshit_> the other one
[18:11] <simpleshit_> Anyone here ever have fun with broadcom?
[18:11] <bl4ckdu5t> How do I remove "Packages" from it?
[18:11] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: are you installing ubuntu on a different computer than the one you are using right now?
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> simpleshit_  start from the beginning, what have you tried before you came here and what do you want to achieve?
[18:12] <Dwade09> Benkinooby,  trying too, the thing wont boot into the cd. it ignores the cd
[18:12] <ledtc> So i added a new nic to my server, so that i can connect to 2 diffrent Subnets, how ever when i hookt it all up my original card when black, it managed to receive DHCP information but i cant ping it.
[18:12] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: hm. did you enter the bios and looked at the boot order?
[18:13] <Dwade09> Benkinooby,  its set to boot cd first
[18:13] <Benkinooby> ok
[18:13] <Dwade09> Benkinooby,  i burned it as iso image and it was the only blank cd i had.
[18:13] <bl4ckdu5t> MonkeyDust: Plz can you give me a tip on how to edit where the apt update fetch its sources
[18:14] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: do you have an other computer to thes the CD?
[18:14] <zippo^> what must I do now: “Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log.”
[18:14] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: i meant "test the CD"
[18:14] <Dwade09> Benkinooby,  yes and it reads on that one but thats not the one i need linux on
[18:15] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: ok, so the Minimal installation CD works on a different computer?
[18:15] <Dwade09> yes Benkinooby
[18:15] <simpleshit_> Is this solely for support, I have no specific issue at the moment, just general idea and plans that I'm not through the learning curve on, but its good to know this place exists. Any recomendations for irc channels where it'd be good lo lurk and learn about linux based networking and server setup etc?
[18:16] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: if the CD is correct and works on other computers, then there is a problem with your computer hardware. what other options do you have?
[18:17] <Dwade09> Benkinooby,  my usb 1TB external hard drive
[18:17] <DJones> simpleshit_: #ubuntu-server for server advice, ##linux is a general linux channel and there is ##networking for general network issues, if you wanted general chat, there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:17] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: can the laptop, where you want to install ubuntu on, boot from usb?
[18:17] <Dwade09> Benkinooby,  yes
[18:17] <simpleshit_> thanks
[18:18] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: hm, one last thing. somtimes you can set the boot order manually during boot up. for example at my leptop i have to press F12 , then i can manually select the boot order for that specific boot - do you have something like that too? just want to make sure
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> bl4ckdu5t  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SourcesList   start here
[18:19] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: also, what model is the laptop you want to install ubuntu on?
[18:20] <zippo^> can someone help me?
[18:21] <Strit> !ask | zippo^
[18:21] <zippo^> ok :P
[18:21] <simpleshit_> join #gentoo
[18:21] <zippo^> what must I do now: “Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log.”, Strit ?
[18:22] <Strit> zippo^, what does the log file say in the end?
[18:22] <Lukky> I'm trying to solve a problem with Ubuntu desktop running inside VMWare workstation on a Windows 7 host. I can ping the Ubuntu guest by IP address, but not by hostname. What could cause that ? Just to add, I have another Ubuntu guest, but it's a Ubuntu Server guest, and I can ping it just fine by hostname. Bot guests are setup with vmware NAT.
[18:22] <zippo^> where can I open /var/log/jockey.log, Strit ?
[18:23] <Strit> zippo^, IN terminal write gedit /var/log/jockey.log
[18:23] <Jon--> I think I have HW issues on my desktop, when I try to boot any version of livecd of Ubuntu to debug (LTS or latest) it goes to a black screen. My desktop runs Windows, only behaviour issue I am getting is NIC doesn't work at all. However, again, Ubuntu won't boot for me to troubleshoot. Any help?
[18:24] <swaagie> lol akward nub question: how to select a file program with one click open enabled? Like I can do right click, click besides menu,  but that is shifting the problem
[18:24] <zippo^> Strit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6142407/
[18:24] <Jon--> I have ofc tested the cd/usb elsewhere and they work, neither works on this machine.
[18:24] <swaagie> file/program*
[18:24] <git-user> I'll clone by HDD using CLonezilla, before trying to shrink /
[18:25] <Reacto> How do I completely remove grub?
[18:25] <wizardd> offtopic: does anyone know when there will be ARM laptops on the market from non-chinese manufactors?
[18:25] <Reacto> I had fedora installed on a partition, but wanted to try ubuntu instead, so I wiped the partitions that had anything to do with fedora and installed ubuntu on them
[18:25] <Reacto> however grub is still stuck there, and now it's bugged
[18:26] <Reacto> I've tried installing grub from ubuntu live, but it just boots into the grub command line
[18:26] <zippo^> do you understand this log, Strit ?
[18:26] <Strit> zippo^, yeah. seems your wireless driver is blacklisted. Read the post here and see if it helps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/45422/broadcom-sta-wireless-driver-fails-to-install
[18:26] <Craig910> chrome book from google?
[18:26] <bartzy> Anyone can help me with my rDNS problem ? :|
[18:27] <bartzy> Can someone that never changed their /etc/nsswitch.conf file on Ubuntu 12.10, paste it for me ?
[18:27] <zippo^> ok i go read
[18:28] <SwedeMike> bartzy: I only have 12.04, would that suffice?
[18:28] <bartzy> SwedeMike: Yes, thanks
[18:29] <SwedeMike> bartzy: http://pastebin.com/c8CS9KAU
[18:29] <bartzy> thanks! :D
[18:30] <paul3710402> hi
[18:30] <Reacto> Anyone?
[18:30] <paul3710402> reacto asl?
[18:30] <kimus> Hi, I'm using the virbr0 in virtualbox. but DHCPOFFERs from dnsmasq aren't seen by the VM. Any guess what's the problem here?
[18:30] <compdoc> wizardd, google:  android laptop, and you will find laptops powered by arm cpus, many which are made by via
[18:31] <subz3r0> !grub2 | Reacto
[18:31] <subz3r0> Reacto: seems like you did not purge the partition where grub has been installed.
[18:32] <Reacto> Would boot-repair fix that?
[18:33] <Jon--> I think I have HW issues on my desktop, when I try to boot any version of livecd of Ubuntu to debug (LTS or latest) it goes to a black screen. My desktop runs Windows, only behaviour issue I am getting is NIC doesn't work at all. However, again, Ubuntu won't boot for me to troubleshoot. Any help? I have ofc tested the cd/usb elsewhere and they work, neither works on this machine.
[18:33] <dmavroid> hello everyone! i am trying to use wine in order to install a game, but nothing seems to work or i am unable to do it properly! can someone support me on this! thanks
[18:34] <zippo^> Strit, that is difficult
[18:34] <subz3r0> Reacto: i have no clue what went wrong during the installation. but ofc you could give it a shoot
[18:34] <zippo^> because i am no good in
[18:34] <Reacto> Is there no way to just entirely remove grub?
[18:34] <Strit> zippo^, never said it was easy. :)
[18:34] <Reacto> Then I can set it up again from the ubuntu live iso
[18:35] <Strit> dmavroid, check www.winehq.org for support on games.
[18:35] <dmavroid> Strit thanks
[18:36] <cjwelborn> i downloaded a package that was a tar.gz, it wanted me to extract everything to /usr (contained bin/, share/, etc.). I got it done with tar and cp, but is there a tar flag or shortcut for this?
[18:36] <Benkinooby> hi, are the ubuntu install images hybird iso? so can the be run from usb after doing dd ?
[18:36] <Benkinooby> *they
[18:37] <DJones> Benkinooby: Yes
[18:38] <Benkinooby> DJones: nice! thx
[18:38] <DJones> Benkinooby: At least the last on I did let me do that
[18:38] <Benkinooby> :)
[18:38] <Benkinooby> DJones: what version?
[18:39] <DJones> Benkinooby: I think it was 12.04 but not 100% certain, it was a while back since I had to do it
[18:39] <Benkinooby> DJones: k, thx
[18:40] <dmavroid> Strit: can i play cracked games in linux? winehq site seems to have a problem at the time
[18:40] <Jon--> I think I have HW issues on my desktop, when I try to boot any version of livecd of Ubuntu to debug (LTS or latest) it goes to a black screen. My desktop runs Windows, only behaviour issue I am getting is NIC doesn't work at all. However, again, Ubuntu won't boot for me to troubleshoot. Any help? I have ofc tested the cd/usb elsewhere and they work, neither works on this machine.
[18:40] <hugok> My raid disk(s) can't be mounted, does u desktop 12.04lts support raid?
[18:41] <bekks> hugok: Yes.
[18:41] <DJones> Benkinooby: Post 7 on this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1820930
[18:41] <bekks> hugok: How did you create your RAID?
[18:41] <hugok> It was a low level option but not the BIOS
[18:41] <hugok> I dont know what it ws
[18:41] <genoobie> hey any lubuntu users here?
[18:41] <genoobie> just need a bit of advice
[18:41] <bekks> hugok: Then we cant help you, I'm afraid.
[18:42] <subz3r0> Strit: give playonlinux a try
[18:42] <subz3r0> !playonlinux | Strit
[18:42] <subz3r0> ohh no entry for that :>
[18:42] <genoobie> I am trying to install lubuntu and I am looking at the partition table
[18:42] <hugok> do I format the disks as ext4? or leave unallocated? or add raid flags?
[18:42] <genoobie> I'm a bit confused
[18:42] <subz3r0> genoobie: just point out your questions where you stuck
[18:42] <genoobie> do people use a separate partition for /home?
[18:43] <Benkinooby> DJones: thank you for your effort
[18:43] <genoobie> trying to figure out partition sizes / etc
[18:43] <genoobie> so subz3r0 if I use a separate /home partition
[18:43] <bekks> genoobie: Some do, some dont.
[18:43] <subz3r0> etc  or  own partition for /etc? :D
[18:43] <Strit> I have not asked about a game, I answered one, subz3r0 . :)
[18:43] <genoobie> do the "/" and the "/home" have to have the same FS?
[18:43] <Jon--> I think I have HW issues on my desktop, when I try to boot any version of livecd of Ubuntu to debug (LTS or latest) it goes to a black screen. My desktop runs Windows, only behaviour issue I am getting is NIC doesn't work at all. However, again, Ubuntu won't boot for me to troubleshoot. Any help? I have ofc tested the cd/usb elsewhere and they work, neither works on this machine.
[18:43] <subz3r0> genoobie: i would recommend a seperare partition for boot, root, swap and home
[18:43] <subz3r0> seperate
[18:43] <Strit> dmavroid, Wine is not a big fan of cracked games. :P
[18:44] <genoobie> okay, this is going to be my kids computer
[18:44] <genoobie> any suggestions on sizes?
[18:44] <genoobie> I have a 40GB NTFS partition that is being used
[18:44] <genoobie> ext4?
[18:44] <genoobie> subz3r0: also, these are all "logical" partitions, correct?
[18:44] <subz3r0> genoobie: so you will have 40 gigs for ubuntu/kubuntu/lubuntu......?
[18:44] <dmavroid> Strit: so there is no way i can play a cracked game on ubuntu?
[18:45] <genoobie> subz3r0: just lubuntu
[18:45] <subz3r0> roger that...
[18:45] <genoobie> yeah I think 40GB would be plenty
[18:45] <figgycity50> dmavroid, there might be, but I am not aware of any way
[18:45] <figgycity50> and ubuntu is very secure
[18:45] <genoobie> going to run a bit of wine
[18:45] <figgycity50> so probably there is no way
[18:45] <subz3r0> 400mn for /boot. 10 gigs for /, swap same size as your ram, rest for home
[18:45] <figgycity50> wine is bad
[18:45] <subz3r0> mn =mb
[18:45] <Strit> dmavroid, It might work, but it also might not. Just try and see. :)
[18:45] <dmavroid> figgycity50: thanks
[18:46] <genoobie> okay, what is "/boot"?
[18:46] <dmavroid> Strit: thanks
[18:46] <figgycity50> no problem dmavroid
[18:46] <genoobie> subz3r0: any particular order to those?
[18:46] <genoobie> I mean boot first? then "/" then "/swap" then "/home"?
[18:47] <genoobie> so does "/" contain "/bin and /etc"?
[18:47] <linuxuz3r> yes
[18:47] <figgycity50> yes genial
[18:47] <figgycity50> genoobie*
[18:47] <genoobie> okay
[18:47] <linuxuz3r>  / = root
[18:47] <swaagie> D
[18:47] <genoobie> so what is "/boot"?
[18:47] <figgycity50> the boot sector
[18:47] <Jon--> good old #ubuntu. paste same message repetatively for 25 minutes, 0 answers.
[18:47] <linuxuz3r> thats where grub recides
[18:48] <linuxuz3r> not the boot sector but thats where grub resides
[18:48] <hugok> Jon--: whats up?
[18:48] <subz3r0> genoobie: boot, root, swap and home. or boot, root home and swap. that doesnt really matter in your case
[18:48] <linuxuz3r> boot sector is the mbr
[18:48] <bekks> genoobie: /boot holds the userland files for grub. grub itself resides in the MBR.
[18:48] <Jon--> hugok, I think I have HW issues on my desktop, when I try to boot any version of livecd of Ubuntu to debug (LTS or latest) it goes to a black screen. My desktop runs Windows, only behaviour issue I am getting is NIC doesn't work at all. However, again, Ubuntu won't boot for me to troubleshoot. Any help? I have ofc tested the cd/usb elsewhere and they work, neither works on this machine.
[18:48] <dmavroid> is there any other drawback, except losing some hard drive space, when i am making a partition for windows?
[18:48] <Jon--> hugok, sorry for wall of text, I like to give all the relevant info
[18:48] <genoobie> oh, I am also going to play around a bit with clonezilla after I install lubuntu
[18:48] <Strit> Jon--, your question might be better answered in a virtualbox channel instead
[18:48] <figgycity50> Jon--, what version of windows
[18:48] <Jon--> Strit, this is a physical machine with a physical live cd
[18:48] <genoobie> will 400mb still be enough?
[18:48] <subz3r0> genoobie: / includes everything besides /boot, swap and /home with this solution
[18:48] <Jon--> figgycity50, it's win7
[18:49] <hugok> Jon--: you sure you have the right distro for that comp? ie. 64 bit vs 32?
[18:49] <figgycity50> hmm.
[18:49] <Jon--> hugok, yeah, I have 64bit
[18:49] <figgycity50> do you have a uefi?
[18:49] <Strit> Jon--, ah, sorry. Mistook you for someone else. :)
[18:49] <subz3r0> genoobie: yes it will take care of some kernels.
[18:49] <hugok> Jon--: have you tried the 32?
[18:49] <Jon--> figgycity50, That's a good question, probably not though. Would that generate this behaviour?
[18:49] <genoobie> okay
[18:49] <figgycity50> yes
[18:49] <figgycity50> secure boot
[18:49] <Jon--> hugok, no
[18:49] <genoobie> so just to recap, all ext4 (except swap)
[18:49] <subz3r0> genoobie: even 200mb would fit... but i like to give it some more space
[18:49] <genoobie> 400mb for boot
[18:49] <figgycity50> stops anything but windows to boot
[18:49] <Jon--> figgycity50, what do I look for in BIOS to see if I have this?
[18:49] <genoobie> 10 gigs for "/"
[18:50] <linuxuz3r> genoobie, 299nb is fine
[18:50] <figgycity50> depends what bios you have
[18:50] <linuxuz3r> 200mb
[18:50] <hugok> Jon--: are you sure you are booting from the device? (usb, live cd?)
[18:50] <genoobie> and the rest for /home
[18:50] <subz3r0> genoobie: thats the deal :) use ext4 for everything besides swap. swap will be swap space during the partition manager
[18:50] <Jon--> hugok, yes, it shows ubuntu splash screen for a while before going black
[18:50] <figgycity50> most of the time it says either UEFI or Legacu
[18:50] <figgycity50> Legacy*
[18:50] <genoobie> subz3r0: all logical partitions
[18:50] <genoobie> correct?
[18:50] <subz3r0> genoobie: you can give / a bit more or less... under normal circumstances i choose 10 gigs for /
[18:50] <figgycity50> look for that setting in your bios
[18:50] <Jon--> figgycity50, I don't tihnk that's the problem as I do see ubuntu flash screen for a while before black screen
[18:50] <linuxuz3r> genoobie, why do you need to separate home from root?
[18:50] <subz3r0> genoobie: yes all logical
[18:51] <figgycity50> maybe your cd is corrupt, try re-burning
[18:51] <hugok> Jon--: if you windows works consistently, then its not HW, but im thinking maybe your image is bad/corrupt
[18:51] <Jon--> figgycity50, tested on my laptop it works
[18:51] <figgycity50> what?
[18:51] <Jon--> hugok, ^
[18:51] <figgycity50> this makes no sense.
[18:51] <Jon--> the CD works on other machines
[18:51] <Jon--> but not this desktop
[18:51] <Jon--> to your comment about corruption
[18:51] <figgycity50> maybe its because your cd drive is not working
[18:51] <Jon--> then why would I get a splash screen?
[18:52] <Jon--> at all?
[18:52] <genoobie> ugh
[18:52] <hugok> Jon--: I have no idea
[18:52] <figgycity50> it might be PARTIALLY corrupt
[18:52] <genoobie> why is it calling /boot "sda5
[18:52] <figgycity50> hmm
[18:52] <genoobie> there's a gap, /dev/sda1, then /sda5
[18:52] <genoobie> wtf
[18:52] <subz3r0> genoobie: does not matter
[18:52] <figgycity50> seems like the disc does not work for yor hard drive
[18:52] <Jon--> figgycity50, I verified the burn when I did it, plus I tried using my usb with grub on it to boot direct from iso as well, very unlikely that is corrupt
[18:52] <figgycity50> how many hard drives have you got
[18:52] <genoobie> yeah, but I'd like to be compulsive
[18:52] <genoobie> just one
[18:53] <genoobie> will boot to liveUSB and format that partition
[18:53] <subz3r0> genoobie: it doesnt matter how the partiones arre named
[18:53] <llutz> genoobie: sda1-4 are primary partitions, sda5++ logical drives in extended partition, nothing to worry
[18:53] <figgycity50> try using a different CD
[18:53] <subz3r0> llutz: agreed :)
[18:53] <figgycity50> can you still boot to windows?
[18:54] <genoobie> yes
[18:54] <Jon--> figgycity50, ... you serious man? I've tried a USB from iso grub boot, I've tried a dd with usb, and I've tried a livecd, ALL of which boot on my laptop but not this desktop. It's very unlikely it's the burn media.
[18:54] <figgycity50> silly me, of course you can
[18:54] <Jon--> yeah
[18:54] <subz3r0> genoobie: i would recommend to complete delete all partions which have been ntfs before
[18:54] <figgycity50> maybe it is your desktop's bios
[18:54] <hugok> Jon--: try a different program to make live cd/usb
[18:54] <subz3r0> +formated
[18:54] <figgycity50> it could be booting from the wrong media
[18:54] <subz3r0> +with
[18:54] <figgycity50> how is your cd formatted?
[18:54] <genoobie> funny that I can't do that from the installer
[18:54] <Jon--> hugok, I've used growisofs on arch and cp iso + grub updated on usb and dd on usb
[18:54] <figgycity50> try using WUBI
[18:54] <Jon--> what do you suggest I try?
[18:54] <figgycity50> just google WUBI download
[18:55] <figgycity50> and run wubi
[18:55] <subz3r0> genoobie: thats not supposed to be... normaly you can delete evey parttiotion you want
[18:55] <figgycity50> it's a windows installer for ubuntu
[18:55] <figgycity50> may help
[18:55] <hugok> Jon--: you probably have a better idea of the problem than I do, sorry I can't help
[18:55] <figgycity50> unless you already have another linux distro
[18:55] <subz3r0> genoobie: ofc you can choose 200mb for /boot as mentioned before from some1 in here.. i would give it some more space.. just that you dont need to uninstall older kernels all the time. but its up to you
[18:55] <Jon--> hugok, I'm totally stuck on this.
[18:56] <Jon--> figgycity50, uhh, I run arch on my laptop, only windows on the machine though.
[18:56] <subz3r0> genoobie: anyway... gotta go zZZzZZ. good look with the installation and a lot of fun to your kids with linux :)
[18:56] <subz3r0> gn8 folks
[18:56] <figgycity50> use windows on the desktop to run wubi
[18:56] <genoobie> yes, I'll just run it live and setup the partitions
[18:56] <subz3r0> "good luck" not "look" lool.... well im tired ;)
[18:56] <subz3r0> gn8 :D
[18:56] <simplestuff^_^> A somewhat unrelated question, why am I warned about running IRC as root?  I remember back in the day when I was a little linux newbie a grub update bricked my machine to needing livecd recover lol
[18:57] <Jon--> apologies for lang.
[18:57] <figgycity50> i have no idea, personally i have never used wubi
[18:57] <figgycity50> and i seen how to geek do it
[18:58] <figgycity50> i remember
[18:58] <figgycity50> it DOES screw ur bootloader
[18:58] <linuxuz3r> whats wubi
[18:58] <figgycity50> but only when u uninstall
[18:58] <linuxuz3r> isnt that the windows ubuntu installer?
[18:58] <figgycity50> yes
[18:58] <BluesKaj> Jon--, that language isn't necessary and wubi is being dropped in the newer releases afaik
[18:58] <Jon--> BluesKaj, I can't get any live media to load on my desktop, trying to debug a potential hardware issue. Any ideas?
[18:59] <figgycity50> maybe ur cd drive is corrupt
[18:59] <Jon--> splash screen to black screen, both LTS and latest
[18:59] <subz3r0> !wubi > all
[18:59] <figgycity50> now i am confused
[18:59] <figgycity50> try a non live media
[18:59] <figgycity50> like music
[18:59] <figgycity50> does that work?
[18:59] <Jon--> figgycity50, are you trolling? :P
[18:59] <figgycity50> no i'm not trolling
[18:59] <BluesKaj> Jon--, check your boot sequence in the bios
[18:59] <subz3r0> !wubi > subz3r0
[18:59] <Jon--> the CD drive works fine on the machine, and I already said I used two methods of USB boot, grub and dd
[18:59] <subz3r0> !wubi > subz3r0
[18:59] <subz3r0> !wubi | subz3r0
[19:00] <subz3r0> bleh
[19:00] <Jon--> BluesKaj, I am directly selecting the boot media and again I get a ubuntu splash screen on my entirely windows desktop ;)
[19:00] <figgycity50> try using a USB stick to install ubuntu
[19:01] <figgycity50> go through all of your bios settings
[19:01] <figgycity50> make sure everything is set right
[19:01] <hugok> Jon--, is there another slot to plug you cd drive into? I think it is the cause
[19:02] <BluesKaj> Jon--what ?
[19:02] <Jon--> hugok, ... seriously? I just said I've tried usb booting too, can we get over the CD issue? The issue is Ubuntu won't boot, it's not a miss-burn.
[19:02] <figgycity50> ok
[19:02] <figgycity50> try a 32 bit disc
[19:02] <Jon--> figgycity50, yeah it might be UEFI, give me a secd.
[19:02] <Jon--> wouldn't that not boot at all though, I do get a splash screen?
[19:02] <figgycity50> if it is find SECURE BOOT and disable it
[19:02] <hugok> Jon--, are you on a win8 machine? as in is your BIOS UEIFI or whatever?
[19:02] <figgycity50> could be a laggy UEFI
[19:02] <Jon--> hugok, 7
[19:02] <linuxuz3r> you guys know selinux
[19:02] <figgycity50> no
[19:03] <genoobie> for clonezilla it would probably be easier to have all this on one partition
[19:03] <linuxuz3r> security enhanced linux kernel?
[19:03] <Jon--> linuxuz3r, A little. You're better off in ##linux
[19:03] <genoobie> the advantage to a separate home partition is just for upgrade purposes, right?
[19:03] <figgycity50> can you get a Debian liveCD? will that boot?
[19:03] <figgycity50> just checking if other live media works
[19:04] <Jon--> uhh, I could yeah.
[19:04] <figgycity50> try getting one in your drive
[19:04] <figgycity50> see if that boots
[19:05] <figgycity50> i think Jon-- is afk putting a Debian disk in his drive
[19:05] <figgycity50> i guess
[19:05] <Jon--> I'm here.
[19:05] <figgycity50> ok
[19:05] <Jon--> I was checking for UEFI in bios, nothing.
[19:06] <hugok> no locked whatever?
[19:06] <figgycity50> how did you check your BIOS while on the IRC?
[19:06] <hugok> special BIOS IRC client
[19:06] <figgycity50> or are you IRCing on the laptop?
[19:06] <Jon--> wow, debian uses 7cds, really?
[19:06] <hugok> lol
[19:06] <figgycity50> no
[19:06] <figgycity50> not when i checked
[19:06] <figgycity50> let me check
[19:06] <Jon--> figgycity50, laptop runs arch
[19:07] <Jon--> how do I irc on a windows with no internet?
[19:07] <Jon--> are you really not trolling?
[19:07] <figgycity50> i am not trolling
[19:07] <Hodapp> Jon--: if you install ALL of Debian, yes, 7 CDs.
[19:08] <figgycity50> but you only need 1 cd for the core
[19:08] <Jon--> Hodapp, I just wasn't on the livecd page, I am downloading an ISO now.
[19:08] <Hodapp> Jon--: package managers exist for a reason.
[19:08] <hugok> What is debian? 7 complete OS's
[19:08] <zykotick9> Jon--: fyi, debian's default "install" cd is NOT a livecd...
[19:08] <figgycity50> ik
[19:08] <linuxuz3r> which is better debian or ubuntu?
[19:08] <Jon--> hugok, ubuntu is a fork of debian, debian is a linux distro
[19:08] <figgycity50> linuxuz3r, ubuntu is better
[19:08] <hugok> Jon--, I know
[19:08] <Jon--> zykotick9, yeah I'm finding one now, I think I'm giving up on trying to boot ubuntu on here, no one seems to know what is wrong
[19:09] <mOrO^> linuxuz3r: if you have to ask.....Ubuntu
[19:09] <figgycity50> Jon--, it could be your CD drive is dead
[19:09] <Hodapp> hugok: they've been around a good while, and for some part of their history it made sense to distribute seven discs
[19:09] <Jon--> linuxuz3r, post 12.04, probably debian
[19:09] <figgycity50> or at least half dead
[19:09] <mOrO^> linuxuz3r: but if you want simplicity and grace under pressure..........try Pear 7, simply elegant out of the box, Ubuntu based, with lots of support
[19:09] <hugok> Hodapp, that's hilarious
[19:09] <linuxuz3r> ok
[19:10] <figgycity50> Jon--, tell me EXACTLY what you have done so far
[19:10] <Hodapp> hugok: I dunno about hilarious. They are one of the oldest distros still in existence, and plenty old enough to have been around near folks who lacked good Internet access.
[19:10] <figgycity50> i may be able to spot the problem
[19:10] <linuxuz3r> i wonder if ubuntu is being used in it industry
[19:10] <linuxuz3r> like redhat
[19:10] <figgycity50> linuxuz3r, some people do
[19:11] <figgycity50> i mean ubuntu server is way popular
[19:11] <Hodapp> 'people' and 'IT industry' are not quite the same targets
[19:11] <linuxuz3r> i want to install redhat but i dont want to maintain it everytime
[19:11] <Hodapp> linuxuz3r: If you intalled bona-fide Red Hat, you get the support that comes along with it.
[19:11] <linuxuz3r> Hodapp, yeah
[19:11] <figgycity50> jon--?
[19:11] <Hodapp> otherwise you're probably talking CentOS or Fedora.
[19:11] <linuxuz3r> most it has rht subscription
[19:11] <figgycity50> Jon--, are you yhrtr
[19:11] <Jon--> figgycity50, I have attempted to boot a Ubuntu LTS and/or latest distro from USB and/or CD on my Windows 7 desktop which is experiencing network issues. I have checked UEFI and it is not on my BIOS. Behaviour I am getting over both CD burn and ISO USB booting from grub and USB dd copy ISO all show a splash screen, then a black screen. I have not tried other distros.
[19:12] <linuxuz3r> but what about ubuntu
[19:12] <Hodapp> linuxuz3r: Ubuntu is used plenty on EC2 and other cloud services.
[19:12] <linuxuz3r> EC2?
[19:12] <Hodapp> linuxuz3r: what those boxes are hosted on, I don't know, but the guest OSes will very often include Ubunt.
[19:12] <Hodapp> Ubuntu*
[19:12] <figgycity50> try running another distro see if that works
[19:12] <Hodapp> linuxuz3r: Amazon EC2, surely you've heard of it by now?
[19:13] <linuxuz3r> Enterprise cloud2?
[19:13] <figgycity50> yes
[19:13] <Hodapp> elastic compute cloud.
[19:13] <figgycity50> debian DOES have a live cd by the way
[19:13] <figgycity50> http://www.debian.org/CD/live/
[19:13] <linuxuz3r> ok
[19:13] <linuxuz3r> wow ubuntu is big
[19:13] <figgycity50> try it, see if it works
[19:13] <Hodapp> Debian has so many installation methods it's not even funny
[19:13] <figgycity50> if it works, then it is obviously your cd
[19:14] <Hodapp> the weirdest thing I've ever shoehorned Debian onto is probably a Power Mac G4 though... nothing special.
[19:14] <Jon--> I'm 51s from having debian done, going to burn a DVD
[19:14] <linuxuz3r> Hodapp, i got ubuntu on macbook pro
[19:14] <hugok> For a Raid0 array, do both disks hacve to have a partition table? and/or have the raid flag set?
[19:14] <linuxuz3r> now refit is fuxored my efi firmware
[19:15] <chris_young> Can someone help me out with an audio issue? I have an Ubuntu minimal install with XFCE. ALSA appears to recognize my sound cards (I have an internal and external), but PulseAudio only shows "Dummy Output".
[19:15] <figgycity50> chris_young, does PulseAudio support your card? try playing music/videos
[19:15] <figgycity50> say yotube
[19:15] <figgycity50> say youtube
[19:16] <figgycity50> Jon--, have you done with Debian yet?
[19:16] <hugok> For a Raid0 array, do both disks hacve to have a partition table? and/or have the raid flag set? The raid table was set through BIOS and a drive shows up in the file explorer, I just cant mount it
[19:16] <tozen> hi all! having annoyng problem! ubuntu 12.04.3 asus k53e. so screen turns off after 10-15 minutes of innactivity even having <Never> function activated: http://itmages.ru/image/view/1233518/a725ad56
[19:16] <Jon--> it's burning
[19:16] <figgycity50> tozen, it might be your monitor/bios
[19:17] <chris_young> figgycity50, I am unable to get any sound output right now. My internal is a Creative Labs, and my external (which is what I really want to use) is an Akai EIE. I have gotten the EIE to work with a regular Unity Ubuntu install so yeah I think it is supported.
[19:17] <figgycity50> maybe the drivers are not in the minimal install
[19:17] <linuxuz3r> tozen you use gnome shell?
[19:17] <figgycity50> try finding them from Akai's website
[19:17] <tozen> figgycity50: ???
[19:18] <tozen> linuxuz3r: unity
[19:18] <chris_young> Akai does not have linux drivers
[19:18] <linuxuz3r> tozen, ok
[19:18] <figgycity50> chris_young, try a google for unofficial ones
[19:18] <figgycity50> sometimes the ubuntu software center might
[19:18] <chris_young> I have not been able to find any.
[19:19] <figgycity50> boo
[19:19] <figgycity50> maybe try a Generic Driver?
[19:19] <Ryan44> hello
[19:19] <figgycity50> Jon--, how are you doing burning the Debian disc
[19:19] <chris_young> Like I said though, it worked plug and play with Unity, but doesn't work with XFCE.
[19:19] <figgycity50> maybe Unity had the drivers
[19:20] <chris_young> How can I tell if ALSA and/or PulseAudio recognize and are able to use the device?
[19:20] <figgycity50> and XFCE does not
[19:20] <figgycity50> try playing a sound
[19:20] <zykotick9> chris_young: re alsa, try "cat /proc/asound/cards"
[19:20] <chris_young> That sounds reasonable.
[19:20] <figgycity50> Jon--, how are you doing burning the Debian disc
[19:20] <tozen> linuxuz3r:  so any ideas to sort it out, pal?
[19:20] <chris_young> That command shows both the internal and external cards.
[19:21] <chris_young> they are also in /dev
[19:21] <figgycity50> hmm
[19:21] <figgycity50> maybe XFCE does not work with your card?
[19:21] <figgycity50> Jon--, how are you doing burning the Debian disc
[19:21] <Jon--> figgycity50, growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/sr0=isoimage.iso
[19:21] <bekks> figgycity50: XFCE works with all cards which work with ALSA/PA.
[19:22] <figgycity50> Jon--, what does that do?
[19:22] <Jon--> figgycity50, lol.
[19:22] <Jon--> It burns a DVD.
[19:22] <figgycity50> oh
[19:22] <chris_young> Im pretty sure ALSA sees and is able to use the cards. How can I confirm that?
[19:22] <figgycity50> sorry, burning stuff is not my thing
[19:23] <figgycity50> i prefer VMs
[19:23] <figgycity50> is the burn done yet?
[19:23] <figgycity50> Jon--,
[19:23] <Jon--> No problem I just find it humurous that you ask me what burning method I use, I tell you the standard CLI way to do it, and you ask me what that is.
[19:23] <figgycity50> is it done yet though?
[19:23] <Jon--> just finishing now
[19:23] <figgycity50> ok
[19:23] <figgycity50> once it's done, reboot
[19:23] <figgycity50> with the disk in
[19:23] <figgycity50> obviously
[19:24] <figgycity50> say wether it boots or not
[19:24] <hugok> figgy, the master linuxman
[19:24] <figgycity50> what, am I the master linuxman?
[19:24] <figgycity50> ok i do have a cloud server running ubuntu
[19:25] <figgycity50> Jon--, how is the boot to debian disc doing?
[19:25] <Jon--> figgycity50, can you just wait for me to reply instead of spamming me every 30s? -_-
[19:25] <figgycity50> ok
[19:25] <hugok> How hot are HDD supposed to get? mine right now shows 75degrees c
[19:25] <figgycity50> omg that's hpt
[19:26] <figgycity50> should be about 30degrees c
[19:26] <Rory> hugok: That's on the warm side, but fine for prolonged use
[19:26] <Rory> hugok: Consider cleaning your case out though
[19:26] <Jon--> hmm. debian has [OK] throughout boot process, when it goes to display it flickers then black screen
[19:26] <Jon--> oh, nvm.
[19:26] <Jon--> debian works lol.
[19:26] <figgycity50> maybe it's your graphics card
[19:26] <figgycity50> ok
[19:26] <figgycity50> then your cd might be corrupt
[19:26] <hugok> it's a old IDE 40gb i use for ubuntu install that I picked up/stole from an abandoned comp
[19:27] <Jon--> figgycity50, it's not, ubuntu just won't boot on this machine.
[19:27] <figgycity50> ok
[19:27] <chris_young> How can I figure out which audio drivers may be installed with Unity and not XFCE?
[19:27] <Benkinooby> ~!LTS
[19:27] <Benkinooby> !LTS
[19:27] <figgycity50> then that's all i guess we can do
[19:27] <bekks> chris_young: Unity does not install audio drivers at all.
[19:27] <hugok> Jon--: make sure you're not using the mac version lol
[19:27] <figgycity50> i gues it is a compatibility issue
[19:27] <moparisthebest> I'm getting the strangest error from apt-get dselect-upgrade: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6142658/
[19:27] <moparisthebest> anyone have any ideas about it
[19:28] <moparisthebest> ?
[19:28] <Jon--> syntax for ip link up? i'm used to ifconfig
[19:28] <figgycity50> moparisthebest, try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:28] <chris_young> Ok so then how can I figure out if my audio problem is with ALSA or PulseAudio? I think it's probably PulseAudio?
[19:28] <moparisthebest> I'm trying to migrate from one server to antoher, both running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS amd64, so the dpkg --set-selections method should wtork?
[19:28] <bekks> chris_young: Why do you think its pulseaudio?
[19:29] <Jon--> shit, debian is also detecting no media
[19:29] <figgycity50> bekks, it's because ALSA works and pulseaudio does not
[19:29] <Jon--> I guess it's a hardware issue
[19:29] <jrib> moparisthebest: depends on what mean by "work"
[19:29] <moparisthebest> figgycity50: It ran, no messages, but same message from dselect-upgrade
[19:29] <llutz> Jon--: ip link set ethX up
[19:29] <Jon--> llutz, yeah I got it, thanks :).
[19:29] <moparisthebest> jrib: I want the same packages on the new server as the old
[19:29] <figgycity50> ok Jon-- i guess your pc is incompatible with ubuntu
[19:29] <moparisthebest> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6142658/ that's what I did, that file was generated with dpkg --get-selections on the first server
[19:29] <llutz> Jon--: might be helpful for a while: http://whodat.be/iproute2-cheatsheet-and-reference-guide/
[19:29] <jrib> moparisthebest: then, yes, that should work.  You'll lose apt's knowledge of manually and automatically installed pakcages however
[19:29] <figgycity50> try ur pc's manufacturer
[19:29] <chris_young> Because the device I want to use shows up in /dev/snd & /proc/asound but PulseAudio only shows "Dummy Output"
[19:29] <figgycity50> website
[19:30] <bekks> !pulseaudio | chris_young
[19:30] <Jon--> figgycity50, I don't have a website.
[19:30] <figgycity50> i mean the manufacturer's website
[19:30] <moparisthebest> it *should* work, but it's not working, is there another way to do it?
[19:30] <Jon--> So do I.
[19:30] <figgycity50> the makers of yor pc
[19:30] <Jon--> I made a pretty clever joke :(
[19:30] <chris_young> I have read the install instructions and they do not say how to tell PulseAudio which device I want to use.
[19:31] <figgycity50> chris_young, maybe like Jon-- your hardware is incompatible
[19:31] <jrib> moparisthebest: i would suggest troubleshooting this
[19:31] <chris_young> My computer recognizes the device; I can see it. What I dont know how to do is tell PulseAudio to use it.
[19:31] <bekks> figgycity50: Thats nonsense, honestly. PulseAudio uses ALSA as backend.
[19:31] <Jon--> bekks, a lot of what he says is nonsense. I appreciate the effort but he's not very knowledgable. Sorry figgycity50 :(
[19:31] <bekks> figgycity50: So its a configuration issue, and not some incompatibility issue.
[19:32] <figgycity50> aww
[19:32] <chris_young> But it works with another Ubuntu install I have... The only difference is this machine uses XFCE instead of Unity,
[19:32] <Jon--> no offence man, just keep practicing/learning instead of trying to do support
[19:32] <Jon--> you'll learn more
[19:32] <figgycity50> ok
[19:32] <Jon--> I still have no idea why ubuntu black screens and debian boots
[19:32] <Jon--> but in any case, looks like it's an issue with my onboard NIC no longer functionining. mother...
[19:32] <jrib> !nomodeset | Jon--
[19:32] <hugok> wait wait wait wait, do the pins on the hard drive need to be in a master/slave pattern for raid to work?
[19:33] <bekks> hugok: Are you still using IDE drives?
[19:33] <bekks> hugok: Which RAID controller do you have?
[19:33] <jrib> moparisthebest: so, do you have cron and upstart installed on the new server?
[19:33] <hugok> 40gb IDE ubuntu filesystem, 2x ~360 gb sata srives attempting raid0
[19:33] <Kalel> Greetings. I am stucked in the gdm login screen. I already tried change the owner of Xauthority and all other -rw----- available.I had already dpkg-reconfigured gdm and nothing.. Any suggest or should i reinstall my system? Raring Ringtail 13.04..
[19:34] <hugok> I think its build in?
[19:34] <jrib> Kalel: create a fresh new user and see if the issue exists with the new user
[19:34] <bekks> hugok: Which one is it?
[19:34] <figgycity50> Kalel, try CTRL-ALT-T  then try CTRL-ALT-F2
[19:34] <moparisthebest> jrib: cron, upstart, and adduser are already on the new server
[19:34] <figgycity50> they might boot
[19:34] <figgycity50> if not
[19:34] <moparisthebest> they also have the same sources.list
[19:34] <hugok> bekks, which what?
[19:34] <intrader> Anyone, very basic behavior missing - I would like to make a copy of a folder. The folder's name is workspace1, I would like its copy to have the name workspace2. I have tried, but it is not possible graphically for me to do it in unity
[19:34] <moparisthebest> so should have access to the exact same packages
[19:34] <chris_young> I'm not entirely surprised that my external card isn't working plug and play, but did expect my internal card to be working.
[19:34] <bekks> hugok: Which raidcontroller do you use?
[19:35] <hugok> bekks, I don't know
[19:35] <jrib> moparisthebest: what happens when you do "sudo apt-get install cron" say?
[19:35] <bekks> hugok: you have to find it out. It is described in the manual of the mainboard.
[19:35] <Kalel> jrib: I am now in another O.S. dual booted. I will reboot and try your suggest.
[19:35] <hugok> bekks, here: intel matrix storage manager option ROM v<IP_ADDRESS>2
[19:35] <moparisthebest> jrib: cron is already the newest version.
[19:35] <Kalel> figgycity50: Your too..
[19:36] <moparisthebest> same with upstart and adduser
[19:36] <bekks> hugok: Thats not a raid controller, but some message only.
[19:36] <figgycity50> intrader, easy press CTRL-ALT-T then cd /(the place your folder is) press ENTER then cp workspace1 workspace2
[19:36] <hugok> its in the BIOS?
[19:36] <jrib> moparisthebest: pretty weird.  What version of ifupdown is on there?
[19:36] <hugok> so does that mean fakeRaid?
[19:36] <figgycity50> hugok, i think it might be
[19:36] <bekks> hugok: But since it is an "intel matrix storage manager" controller, thats a fake raid controller only. You cant use the RAID option in Ubuntu.
[19:36] <bekks> hugok: You have a fake raid controller.
[19:37] <figgycity50> how odd
[19:37] <jrib> moparisthebest: have you run "apt-get update" by the way?
[19:37] <chris_young> Can I use ALSA for output without PulseAudio?
[19:37] <figgycity50> why would intel give him a fake RAID
[19:37] <hugok> bekks, so how do I make the two disks appear to be one>
[19:37] <bekks> figgycity50: Ask Intel.
[19:37] <intrader> figgycity50, I figured that I need to go to the terminal. But this was possible before in 10.1
[19:37] <bekks> hugok: Use software RAID.
[19:37] <hugok> How?
[19:37] <hugok> just a program name would be great
[19:37] <bekks> !raid | hugok
[19:38] <figgycity50> intrader, can you right click and see Copy To
[19:38] <figgycity50> i have no unity right niw
[19:38] <figgycity50> now*
[19:38] <hugok> bekks, thanks
[19:38] <figgycity50> i am using an ubuntu server in the cloud and a windows host for this IRC
[19:38] <moparisthebest> jrib: both are Version: 0.7~beta2ubuntu8 of ifupdown, i've ran apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade on both servers before I started any of this, and after copying the sources.list from the first server
[19:39] <jrib> moparisthebest: output of « apt-cache policy ifupdown upstart mountall cron adduser » in a pastebin please
[19:39] <figgycity50> !help
[19:40] <figgycity50> what is @ubotto
[19:40] <intrader> figgycity50, yes but the options are to home or desktop. When I do it to the desktop and  rename and then try to cut from the desktop back to its original parent it does not do anything
[19:40] <bekks> figgycity50: a bot.
[19:40] <ljsoftnet> bekks i fixed my metacity compositing
[19:41] <ljsoftnet> bekks > metacity --no-compositing
[19:41] <figgycity50> intrader, nautilus should have a copy to
[19:41] <figgycity50> but there is no custom
[19:42] <figgycity50> you might be able to use APT to downgrade nautilus
[19:42] <intrader> figgycity50,  it does but only back to home or to desktop or other pane
[19:42] <figgycity50> hmm
[19:43] <figgycity50> try this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/138052/custom-directories-in-nautilus-copy-to-and-move-to-menus
[19:44] <moparisthebest> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6142707/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6142709/
[19:44] <figgycity50> intrader, try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/138052/custom-directories-in-nautilus-copy-to-and-move-to-menus
[19:45] <jrib> moparisthebest: here is someone to share your misery with: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/71219/weird-issue-with-unmet-dependencies-when-cloning-package-states-from-earlier-ins (you can just install the packages directly if you want like is suggested but it's probably somewhat interesting to figure out what is going on)
[19:45] <moparisthebest> jrib: they are the same across both servers
[19:46] <intrader> figgycity50, I have learned something new. First display the parent in a tab, then drag and drop from desktop (after rename
[19:46] <figgycity50> there
[19:47] <figgycity50> should i dual-boot ubuntu or replace my os, windows 8?
[19:47] <moparisthebest> jrib: haha nothing worse than coming across an old thread with your exact problem and no solutions... :(
[19:47] <genoobie> hey I've got something of a dinosaur wireless card
[19:48] <figgycity50> genoobie, does it work with Ubuntu
[19:48] <bekks> genoobie: It's still using smoke for wireless? :)
[19:48] <figgycity50> bekks, lol
[19:48] <genoobie> well I installed lubuntu
[19:48] <jrib> moparisthebest: there's also a way to do this using aptitude if you want.  But aptitude isn't installed by default and it's broken with multi-arch in 12.04
[19:48] <jrib> !clone | moparisthebest
[19:48] <intrader> figgycity50,  thanks, either way very convoluted. I don't want a permanent addition to the moveto or copyto menus. THe drag and drop option of a renamed duplicate will do. The version on 10, used to make a copy (copy) added to name, which I could rename
[19:49] <moparisthebest> yea I thought aptitude didn't work any more with the multi-arch in 12.04
[19:49] <ledtc> Added a new GW to a new NIC and SSH/Ping stopt working on the original NIC.
[19:49] <moparisthebest> will it break things doing it that way?
[19:49] <jrib> moparisthebest: do you have multi-arch enabled?
[19:49] <genoobie> it did not "detect" my wireless card automagically :)
[19:49] <moparisthebest> I thought it was enabled by default jrib?
[19:49] <jrib> moparisthebest: just inspect what it wants to do before doing it :)  But if you don't have multi-arch enabled it should be ok.  I don't know if it's enabled by default
[19:50] <genoobie> it is definitely some kind of broadcomm
[19:50] <jrib> moparisthebest: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[19:50] <figgycity50> aptitude comes with my ubuntu server
[19:50] <figgycity50> it may work for you
[19:50] <maximus2> wuts up boners
[19:51] <ljsoftnet> im good
[19:51] <jrib> moparisthebest: you're probably hitting some weird bug since there are a few instances of it popping up on google
[19:51] <dr0l> fine
[19:51] <k1l> !language | maximus2
[19:52] <MasterProgram> I need help enabling cgi/perl scripts on my lampserver?
[19:52] <figgycity50> MasterProgram, sudo apt-get install perl
[19:52] <figgycity50> you have perl yet?
[19:53] <jrib> MasterProgram: did you figure out if you have multi-arch?
[19:53] <moparisthebest> jrib: # dpkg --print-foreign-architectures prints: i386
[19:53] <moparisthebest> does that mean it's enabled?
[19:53] <jrib> moparisthebest: it could also be that dpkg is messing up because of multi-arch then
[19:53] <moparisthebest> on both servers, new and old
[19:53] <intrader> figgycity50, I like the type 'Move to hare' of the sample rightclick menu.
[19:53] <jrib> moparisthebest: yeah, that means it is enabled.  Do you actually use it?
[19:53] <intrader> figgycity50, 'typo' I mean
[19:54] <moparisthebest> I actually moved this same server probably 8 months ago with 12.04 as well with this same method
[19:54] <figgycity50> MasterProgram, are your scripts in /var/www/cgi-bin
[19:54] <elisha__> hello folks. can anyone help me woth my 1st mahout program ?
[19:54] <moparisthebest> jrib: probably not, I don't know how to tell though
[19:54] <bekks> elisha__: Whats "mahout"?
[19:54] <figgycity50> to run them from any folder add AddHandler cgi-script .cgi to your httpd.conf
[19:54] <figgycity50> and make sure they have been chmodded to be executed
[19:54] <elisha__> bekks its is used in machine learning ..
[19:55] <zippo^> Strit, still no solve )-:
[19:55] <Soelen> hello everyone, I have an issue with my ubuntu server edition right now
[19:55] <jrib> moparisthebest: in your file with the output of get-selections, is there any package with :i386 in its name?
[19:55] <bekks> elisha__: So its not related to ubuntu directly then, correct?
[19:55] <Soelen> diskspace good full, removed some files but now I am having some issues when I try to connect with ssh
[19:55] <MasterProgram> there is no cgi-bin directory in the /var/www/ directory. but i know i can create perl scripts and run them on the computer through terminal.
[19:55] <figgycity50> also you might need mod_perl
[19:56] <figgycity50> sudo apt-get install mod_perl
[19:56] <figgycity50> then a2enmod mod_perl
[19:56] <elisha__> bekks yes.. where can i find help for this .. i have tried so may things .. but now i need help.. who can tell me step by step ?
[19:56] <narziss> Im running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and I have a USB HDD enclosure plugged in. During a file transfer from a non-OS disk to the external disk I rebooted the machine from the terminal. Now Gnome Disk Utility is blank, even after reinstalling it. Any ideas^
[19:56] <bekks> elisha__: Since its not related to ubuntu, you're in the wrong channel then.
[19:57] <narziss> ?
[19:57] <elisha__> ohh ok
[19:57] <Soelen> can somebody help me?
[19:57] <Flannel> elisha__: Try #mahout, there's not a bunch of people there, but they may have other resources as well.
[19:57] <genoobie> so it's reporting "broadcom bcm4318 [airforce one]" in lspci
[19:57] <Soelen> I don't even know how to explain this
[19:58] <figgycity50> Soelen, your ssh cache may be taking the rest of your disk space
[19:58] <figgycity50> try deleting more stuff
[19:58] <MasterProgram> figgycity50: I'm taking an intro course on perl and the instructor informed me I needed to install libapache2-mod-perl2. Is that the same thing?
[19:58] <bekks> MasterProgram: No.
[19:59] <bekks> MasterProgram: Those are different modules.
[19:59] <figgycity50> MasterProgram, you might need both tho
[19:59] <jacekmizejewski> Witam
[20:00] <moparisthebest> jrib: hmm, actually yes quite a few, but from a glance I don't think I use them, anyhow, the aptitude method is running now, guess we will see what happens... :/
[20:00] <jacekmizejewski> jak z poziomu terminala zatualizowac ubuntu 13.04 do 13.10 ?
[20:00] <bekks> !pl | jacekmizejewski
[20:00] <marandi> hi guys i want to install pidgin lens for unity , i add (ppa:scopes-packagers/ppa) to my ppa resource but it couldn't find any unity-lens-pidgin on this repository .. can anyone help me please ?!
[20:00] <jrib> moparisthebest: do note aptitude is quite broken with multi-arch so please do a sanity check as to what it wants to install
[20:01] <MasterProgram> i just tried to install mod_perl via the terminal and this is what i got. sudo apt-get install mod_perl
[20:01] <MasterProgram> [sudo] password for theodorerees:
[20:01] <MasterProgram> Reading package lists... Done
[20:01] <MasterProgram> Building dependency tree
[20:01] <MasterProgram> Reading state information... Done
[20:01] <FloodBot1> MasterProgram: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:01] <MasterProgram> E: Unable to locate package mod_perl
[20:01] <jrib> MasterProgram: did anyone tell you to run that command?
[20:01] <moparisthebest> jrib: what it wanted to install looked about right to me
[20:01] <jrib> moparisthebest: cool
[20:02] <figgycity50> try sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-perl2
[20:03] <figgycity50> g2g
[20:04] <MasterProgram> figgycity50, did I not say early that I already installed that by instructor recommendation and bekks with your confirmation said that it was different that mod_perl?
[20:04] <iancarroll> MasterProgram, have you run apt-get update?
[20:05] <MasterProgram> iancarroll, I'm running it now
[20:05] <shark_> Bonsoir
[20:06] <hugok> hallo shark_
[20:06] <Pernicious-Taint> Salut! :)
[20:07] <MasterProgram> perl didn't need updating
[20:07] <shark_> Woah ya du peuple
[20:08] <wizonesolutions> What's the right way to deal with Ubuntu Server networking now? /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/* say that they are dynamically generated and should not be edited by hand.
[20:08] <wizonesolutions> basically I want to throw in dnsmasq, but I also want DHCP-provided nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf to be preserved automatically. but to be used only if dnsmasq is not authoritative.
[20:14] <zippo^> can someone help me: http://picpaste.com/pics/Schermafdruk_van_2013-09-22_22_10_15-fv4nYHVW.1379880671.png ?
[20:15] <hugok> zippo, the problem appears to be you are german
[20:15] <bocaneri> That's not German. It's Dutch.
[20:16] <hugok> i am of no help
[20:16] <zippo^> how know you, bocaneri ? :P
[20:16] <bocaneri> My daughter speaks Dutch.
[20:17] <zippo^> ah i see
[20:17] <zippo^> can you help me, bocaneri ?
[20:17] <hugok> what does it say in eng?
[20:18] <bocaneri> I have no idea. I do NOT speak Dutch.
[20:18] <zippo^> The installation of this driver failed.
[20:18] <juniour> hi i know in ubuntu wallpaper are stored in /usr/share/backgrounds k,but when i select one of them as background , then where system stored to make it my background wallapaer
[20:19] <juniour> any conf file or something
[20:19] <juniour> ??
[20:20] <gordonjcp> juniour: look in ~/.config/
[20:20] <linuxuz3r> launch gconf-editor
[20:20] <zippo^> do you understand now what i wrote, hugok ?
[20:21] <ipso> I have a DCE2500 mainboard (used for a firewall) that only supports text mode in Linux, I can see text scroll by during the kernel boot process, but as soon as the Login prompt would normally appear the video shuts off completely. I'm assuming its trying to go in a high-res console mode or something, anyone know how I can shut that off?
[20:22] <gordonjcp> zippo^: it asks you to look in /var/log/jockey.log for more information
[20:22] <juniour> gordonjcp in .config where??
[20:22] <gordonjcp> zippo^: is there anything in there?
[20:22] <gordonjcp> juniour: ~/.config
[20:22] <hugok> zippo^, yes but I dont know how to fix that
[20:22] <juniour> gordonjcp but in .cinfig which one???
[20:22] <juniour> gordonjcp but in .config which one???
[20:23] <austin> Hi #ubuntu, When I "sudo apt-get install wine1.7" i get the following error regarding unmet dependencies www.paste.ubuntu.com/6142822. I'm stumped, can anyone help?
[20:23] <juniour> gordonjcp you got my question
[20:23] <juniour> ??
[20:24] <austin> paste.ubuntu.com/6142822
[20:24] <juniour> gordon like when we set background there must be something that stores that path to locatr background, i am serching that one
[20:25] <zippo^> gordonjcp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6142856/
[20:26] <juniour> hi i know in ubuntu wallpaper are stored in /usr/share/backgrounds k,but when i select one of them as background , then where system stored to make it my background wallapaer
[20:27] <juniour> like when we set background there must be something that stores that path to locatr background, i am serching that one
[20:28] <jrib> juniour: dconf; why?
[20:29] <juniour> jrib i diden't got you
[20:29] <juniour> ??
[20:30] <Dwade09> ok i get this error sayng please have a look at the log file for details /var/log/jockey.log this is what i get pastebin.com/2FGymN9d under tail jockey.log and also its installed and system up to date
[20:30] <Dwade09> how do i fix my wifi?
[20:30] <jrib> juniour: the path is stored in dconf.  Why do you ask?
[20:31] <juniour> jrib how to access that
[20:31] <juniour> ???
[20:31] <zippo^> did you extra hardware, Dwade09 ?
[20:31] <Dwade09> zippo^,  extra hardware?
[20:31] <juniour> ijrib how can i access dconf
[20:31] <juniour> ??
[20:31] <Lysian> juniour: ~/pictures?
[20:31] <juniour> jrib how can i access dconf
[20:31] <juniour> Lysian i dont think so
[20:32] <zippo^> additionel
[20:32] <Dwade09> zippo^,  where are these additional?
[20:32] <juniour> jrib plz tell me about dconf
[20:33] <zippo^> you can open : system setting
[20:33] <zippo^> dan choose you extra hardware addiontele
[20:33] <Dwade09> zippo^,  yes i did
[20:33] <Benkinooby> Dwade09: i just saw that "jockey-gtk" is not "state of the art" anymore... on the other hand, i think it should be for ubuntu 12.10
[20:33] <Benkinooby> *12.04
[20:34] <Benkinooby> but do waht zippo^ says
[20:34] <jrib> juniour: why do you care?  You can use gsettings, dconf, or dconf-editor
[20:34] <Dwade09> Benkinooby,  im running 12.04
[20:34] <juniour> yea i know gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.background keys
[20:34] <zippo^> did you get too: this installation is failed?
[20:34] <juniour> jrib yea i know gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.background keys
[20:34] <jrib> juniour: there you are
[20:34] <Dwade09> zippo^,  no.
[20:34] <jrib> juniour: so what is your question?
[20:35] <juniour> jrib it must be stored somewhere as gsetting takes from there???
[20:35] <zippo^> ok
[20:35] <jrib> juniour: can you answer my question: why do you want this?  What is your end-goal?
[20:35] <Distortion> I have installed postfix and am testing. Telnet localhost 25 works fine and I am able to send email, but telnet myaddress.org 25 just hangs. Any ideas?
[20:36] <juniour> i am building a app to change background wallpaper after some time
[20:36] <juniour> jrib i am building a app to change background wallpaper after some time
[20:36] <jrib> juniour: so use gsettings
[20:37] <juniour> yes i can use but it will be more good if i know the particular location
[20:38] <jrib> juniour: read about gsettings and dconf.  You want to use gsettings.  It's not stored in some text file.
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> juniour  wallch and wally already do that
[20:38] <juniour> jrib it stored in xml
[20:38] <jrib> juniour: no, if you're using dconf it's in some binary format
[20:38] <trism> juniour: the file is binary so it won't help you much anyway, https://developer.gnome.org/gio/stable/GSettings.html
[20:39] <trism> juniour: use the api instead
[20:39] <juniour> MonkeyDust i know about wallch but i am bulding my own
[20:39] <juniour> trism gsettings takes from the xml files all the data
[20:39] <trism> juniour: the schemas are xml though, they are in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas
[20:40] <trism> juniour: yes the schemas are xml, but that is not where user settings are written
[20:40] <trism> juniour: they can have a variety of backends but the only one anyone uses is the binary dconf format
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> juniour  fair enough... tip: there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[20:40] <juniour> trism yep that are only default one
[20:46] <acolytetojippity> hey folks.  Has anyone used Boson NetSim before?  Specifically, has anyone gotten it to work on Ubuntu?  I'd love to have it on my laptop to work on while i'm on break between classes.
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> acolytetojippity, Seems be be a wine use app.
[20:49] <Benkinooby> !broadcom
[20:49] <Impossible> who has tried ubuntu phone
[20:49] <popey> Impossible: we discuss that in #ubuntu-touch
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> acolytetojippity, I'm not seeing anyone with it working with a quick google search you might search playonlinux or the wine web pages
[20:50] <acolytetojippity> @wilee-nilee yeah, that's what i was seeing too.  I was just wondering if someone had some sort of super secret method.
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> acolytetojippity, I just dual boot myself, wine and the other windows play apps seem like a waste of time to me, but that's just an opinion.
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> acolytetojippity, You can get windows cheap with a student discount, I got W7 pro & 8 for 25$
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> each*
[20:54] <acolytetojippity> wilee-nilee hmmm, that would be an option but my laptop probably won't handle 7 all that well.
[20:54] <acolytetojippity> wilee-nilee oh well, thnks for looking though.  :tips hat:
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> acolytetojippity, I'm surprised W7 will adjust to computers I have it on a netbook, I'm a 99% open source user I started on open source but like word for complex grad papers is all.
[20:55] <dv9002bc> lol
[20:55] <dv9002bc> bots
[20:56] <dv9002bc> hello
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> !enter | dv9002bc
[20:57] <dv9002bc> so how do i add a camra outputwith Qt
[21:01] <barrett__> will # rm -R folder.jpg remove all instances of folder.jpg in all subdirectories?
[21:03] <Barnabas> barret find . -name folder.jpg -delete would be my choice
[21:03] <barrett__> thank you
[21:05] <LordAioria> is there any person that has installed a jasig CAS server ?
[21:06] <austin> Hi #ubuntu, When I "sudo apt-get install wine1.7" i get the following error regarding unmet dependencies www.paste.ubuntu.com/6142822. I'm stumped, can anyone help?
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> LordAioria  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[21:06] <LordAioria> [MonkeyDust] thanks !
[21:06] <LordAioria> i will do it
[21:07] <NeverHere> forgot the command to edit file permissions...
[21:07] <hplc> chmod?
[21:07] <Benkinooby> NeverHere: chomd
[21:07] <Benkinooby> *chmod
[21:07] <NeverHere> thanks
[21:08] <shivani> I want to create a partition of fedora in my laptop along with ubuntu, but the startup disk creator doesnt allow me to burn any other usb other than one with ubuntu iso
[21:08] <shivani> any alternative?
[21:08] <OerHeks> austin, where do you get wine 1.7 ? your paste is not valid here 404
[21:09] <hplc> unetbootin
[21:09] <mallu> hi.. I have around 70 Ubuntu 12.04 and 9.10 servers that needs to be setup for a new openldap server we setup... Wondering if anyone has a script for setting up ldap clients
[21:09] <shivani> hplc: for usb boot creation ?
[21:09] <hplc> yes
[21:10] <shivani> ok will try
[21:10] <shivani> thanks :)
[21:10] <WarDekar> so i have a question about how to architecture a distributed system and wasn't sure where to ask, i'm running ubuntu though ha, anyone know of a channel i could try?
[21:10] <austin> Apologies, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6142822 and i get it from the command in my previous post. (apologies, i'm new to linux)
[21:10] <austin> OerHeks, Apologies, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6142822 and i get it from the command in my previous post. (apologies, i'm new to linux)
[21:12] <linuxnewbie> hello, i've created few network rules using ip rule and ip route ...how can i make them persistent ?
[21:13]  * Ducky_ np: (Bucuresti FM) [00:00m/128Kbps/44KHz]
[21:14] <loa> where flash in ubuntu save his tmp files?
[21:14] <loa> i see in iotop that it use io
[21:15] <loa> in tmp but unlink files?
[21:15] <zykotick9> loa: flash deletes the file as soon as it's downloaded (these days)
[21:15] <loa> i don't want to copy them, just want to understand
[21:15] <loa> zykotick9, but where he writes?
[21:15] <loa> in tmp?
[21:15] <NeverHere> challenge for you guys, is it possible to mirror two servers that are not at all in the same place? meaning that if one went down, the other would pick up the slack?
[21:16] <bekks> NeverHere: Yes. A commercial solution is called "Veritas Symantec Cluster Server".
[21:17] <NeverHere> bekks, easy to set up?
[21:17] <bekks> NeverHere: After a 5 day workshop, and the certification - yes.
[21:18] <bekks> NeverHere: And after buying the license, of course.
[21:18] <NeverHere> bekks, know of anything that is maybe a free solution?
[21:18] <bekks> NeverHere: Nothing reliable, especially for long distancees.
[21:18] <NeverHere> bekks, its not that far, only from the Midwest of USA to the netherlands
[21:19] <NeverHere> :p
[21:20] <ChogyDan> loa: I've heard that flash creates the file, then deletes it right away.  So it doesn't exist anywhere in the filesystem, but it still exists in memory since flash still has an open handle to it
[21:20] <loa> ChogyDan, i just complain that it use hardrive, thinking about to move tmp into memory if flash saves data there.
[21:21] <loa> i have ssd so don't want saving all crap on it
[21:21] <ChogyDan> ic
[21:22] <loa> ChogyDan, what meen ic?
[21:22] <ChogyDan> loa: I see
[21:30] <loa> ChogyDan, so how do you think if i move tmp to tmpfs it will solve my problem?
[21:31] <ChogyDan> loa: I just found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37267/how-can-i-access-flash-files-from-streaming-websites
[21:32] <ChogyDan> loa: specifically, lsof -n | grep Flash should show you the location of the flash files
[21:32] <ibekks> Whats your problem with tmp / tmpfs?
[21:32] <ljsoftnet> how do i restart docky so i can use gnomenu in docky
[21:33] <loa> ibekks, i don't want libflash to write on my ssd
[21:33] <ChogyDan> loa: though, that isn't really working for me...
[21:33] <loa> searching where it saves
[21:33] <Barnabas> ibekks, on multiuser systems tmpfs is not particularly secure
[21:33] <loa> it tmp files
[21:33] <Barnabas> on a laptop with one user - ok
[21:33] <ibekks> Barnabas: neither ist tmpfs
[21:33] <Barnabas> agree
[21:34] <ibekks> loa: why not?
[21:34] <loa> ChogyDan, you awesome)
[21:34] <ibekks> loa: tmp is deleted upon reboot
[21:35] <loa> ibekks, becouse i have many ram, why i need cache on ssd?
[21:35] <ibekks> loa: then mount /tmp as tmpfs
[21:36] <loa> yeah, i found that chrome saves it in /tmp
[21:36] <loa> i will do it like you said
[21:37] <masterjakeway> hello
[21:38] <ljsoftnet> how do i restart docky so i can use gnomenu in docky
[21:39] <masterjakeway> I'm in need of assistance to get ubuntu running on a usb hdd
[21:39] <Pernicious-Taint> you installing kali?
[21:41] <masterjakeway> me? I have a 1 tb hdd I want to run ubuntu from.
[21:42] <Pernicious-Taint> ah, ok.  I recently tried to install kali on a thumb drive using the instructions on their website via dd= but could never get it to boot. Was just wondering.
[21:42] <ibekks> masterjakeway: so whats your question?
[21:42] <k1l> well, this is not kali support.
[21:43] <masterjakeway> I can get it to boot. but, as soon as I add a ntsc or fat partition, it stops booting
[21:43] <Pernicious-Taint> k1l, I will be sure to give that information all the attention it deserves.
[21:47] <Diegonat> guys? i have a server with eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> and br0 <IP_ADDRESS> . Moreover i have instances 10.0.0.x . What do i need to set on iptables to make instances rechable from outside the server??
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> ljsoftnet, All I see is a ppa only supporting up to natty which is eol.
[21:50] <loa> thx for help) all is ok.
[21:51] <Extreminador> how can i choose a diferent boot thing in the grub... a boot that is not there ?
[21:51] <Extreminador> i knw it's on disk 1 partition 1
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, Not there run sudo update-grub
[21:52] <Extreminador> any command line for that ?
[21:52] <bekks> Extreminador: So you installed grub to sda1 instead of sda
[21:52] <bekks> !grub2 | Extreminador
[21:52] <Extreminador> i did wilee-nilee several tims but that one don´t show
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, what is that one?
[21:52] <Extreminador> it's the partition where the windows instalation is
[21:52] <Extreminador> the partition that is hide and come with laptop
[21:52] <bekks> Extreminador: You need to install it to the MBR, not to some partitions.
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, You remove the windows boot partition usually sda1?
[21:53] <Extreminador> yes wilee-nilee
[21:53] <Extreminador> and yes it's on sd1 indeed
[21:53] <Extreminador> sda1
[21:53] <Extreminador> let me check something firts
[21:53] <Extreminador> wait
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, That is why windows will not boot, can you find the bootrepair on the web and run the bootinfo summary and post the generated url?
[21:54] <Extreminador> the option is on boot loader wait
[21:54] <Extreminador> it's the firts windows option
[21:54] <Extreminador> forget
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, here is the bot repair, do you have a windows install or recovery disc/usb? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:55] <masterjakeway> can anyone help me install on a usb hdd so that I can still have a partition accessible to Windows?
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> boot*
[21:55] <Extreminador> sorry wilee-nilee the grub show's the option i was looking for
[21:56] <Extreminador> my bad... i was chosing the wrong one
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, I can't really help you unless you run that summary, we need to see what is going on with 100 questions.
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> without*
[21:57] <Ben64> masterjakeway: either partition it so theres a fat32 or ntfs partition for windows, or install the ext4 driver for windows
[21:57] <masterjakeway> when I do that, it won't boot ubuntu anymore...
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, You said you removed the windows boot partition, if this is so you are missing windows boot files needed. Is this a uefi setuo as well.
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> setup*
[21:57] <Extreminador> lool wilee-nilee no need any help...
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, Cool, you seem to but whatever.
[21:58] <Extreminador> i was thinking that the boot option was not there but it is
[21:58] <Ben64> masterjakeway: you said it was external though... how would that stop windows from booting
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> bad answers do not help
[21:58] <masterjakeway> it doesn't stop Windows. it stops ubuntu
[21:59] <Ben64> masterjakeway: give more details on exactly what you're doing
[22:01] <masterjakeway> ok, have it set up and booting fine. then add a partition(fat32 or ntsc) to either front or back. then, ubuntu won't boot. I only get the blinking curser
[22:01] <cyberpork>  hello!
 guys i've a problem, i've upgraded my pc from xubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 and after that my pc doesn't boot!
 it only boot after i select the hd in the bios of my motherboard
 the pc is a intel g2020 on a asus p8h77-m
 plz help me to resolve i need this pc for my office to work
[22:01] <FloodBot1> cyberpork: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:01] <masterjakeway> then, I can delete the Windows partition and ubuntu will boot again
[22:01] <cyberpork> anyone can help me?
[22:02] <Ben64> masterjakeway: that makes no sense
[22:02] <cyberpork> anyone can help me to find the rpoblem?
[22:03] <masterjakeway> cyberpork: move the hd up in the bios options?
[22:03] <ertsa> hello
[22:03] <ertsa> i need help abouth vim
[22:03] <ertsa> when i copy a text from vim , it s a problem
[22:04] <masterjakeway> Ben64: I know right? I tried like three times
[22:04] <Ben64> masterjakeway: you're doing something wrong, without more information its impossible to diagnose
[22:05] <wilee-nilee> masterjakeway, we have a script we use ofyen for boot problems.
[22:05] <wilee-nilee> often*
[22:05] <masterjakeway> Ben64: what info would be helpful?
[22:05] <Ben64> all of it
[22:06] <masterjakeway> I've formatted to start over again. sitting with the hdd plugged in booted from a livecd
[22:06] <cyberpork> masterjakeway, i must do this operation everytime? i don't think it's the best way to solve, it can be a uefi incompatibility?
[22:07] <masterjakeway> cyberpork: just throwing it out there
[22:08] <cyberpork> masterjakeway, ?
[22:08] <masterjakeway> I really don't know. just start with the simple...You know?
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> masterjakeway, You trying to install ubuntu on a external HD?
[22:10] <masterjakeway> wilee-nilee: yes. and I want an additional partition accessible for Windows
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> masterjakeway, usb2?
[22:10] <NEone> Hi. Trying to install openvpn on a Ubuntu 12.04 amd64. How much outdated is the openvpn in the repo? (and why?)
[22:11] <masterjakeway> usb 2.0/3.0
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> masterjakeway, 3.0 might run okay, will still be slow, what keeps this from being a internal install?
[22:11] <masterjakeway> the size of my laptop hdd
[22:11] <Daviid> Ola
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> masterjakeway, Sure, seems it would be easier to store on the external and have the OS on the internal, thats the way I go and have 3 OS's at this time.
[22:13] <masterjakeway> guess I didn't think that way
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> masterjakeway, my internal is a 256 gig ssd so I want it for the OS is all.
[22:14] <masterjakeway> well, I don't want to have to carry the drive everywhere, also, I'd like to leave the Windows install alone
[22:15] <OerHeks> NEone in saucy it will be 2.3.x, good question why.
[22:16] <syntroPi> how would i strip binary   from a file?
[22:16] <syntroPi> iconv doesnt work here
[22:17] <bluedogslim> any life in here?
[22:19] <cyberpork> ciao ragazziiiii
[22:19] <cyberpork> heeeeellloooooooo guysssssssss
[22:20] <ghost-warrior> @TimeRider Does '/usermod +x' hide my ip??
[22:24] <mn3monic> Hello, I'm expecting blank screen on tty (and also no splash screen on boot) after installing fglrx 13.101 on kernel 3.10.6 (dkms updated)
[22:24] <mn3monic> I can't see my console (but it works, i can login and reboot the system), the only way is to set vga=0 in grup
[22:25] <mn3monic> if I switch with ctrl+alt+f1 is blank screen, if I switch back to X (alt+f7) everything works
[22:25] <mn3monic> grup = grub (obv)
[22:26] <mn3monic> gpu is ati HD5xxx and works like a charm in X
[22:27] <OerHeks> mn3monic, running saucy ?
[22:27] <mn3monic> OerHeks: Nope, 13.04 with some updates (kernel, dkms, fglrx from saucy)
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> thats just as bad. ;)
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> well can be just as 'quirky' i guess.
[22:28] <OerHeks> uh oh, can't help you there, too much dependencies i guess
[22:29] <mn3monic> Maybe you know if there's any way to setup grub with standard vesa drivers, outside X, without using fglrx, or is it impossible ?
[22:30] <OerHeks> mn3monic, how did you do that? my best guess would be https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=raring
[22:30] <OerHeks> that would give you more hope running ati 13.x
[22:30] <mn3monic> mhm, maybe I wasn't clear
[22:30] <mn3monic> Xorg is ok
[22:30] <mn3monic> The problem is outside xorg
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> !find k9copy
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. has k9copy sort of died off? I recall using it ages ago. to image a dvd to file
[22:34] <trism> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=686504
[22:34] <mn3monic> googling the problem seems like i'm not alone, anyway
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> bummer. that was my fave app. even tho i only used it like once a year.
[22:36] <dharmaturtle> When I use "df", it doesn't list a HTF+ drive I have mounted. How do I get that to appear?
[22:38] <OerHeks> dharmaturtle, try df -h
[22:39] <dharmaturtle> OerHeks: Still doesn't appear, sadly
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> does mount show it
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> HTF+ ? that a typo or you ment hfs+ ?
[22:41] <dharmaturtle> Oops yeah, HFS+.
[22:42] <dharmaturtle> um, I don't see it in "mount" either.
[22:42] <Dr_Willis> how did you mount it? just plugged the drive in? accessed it via nautilus?
[22:43] <Benkinooby> dharmaturtle: ls /dev/sd*
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> sudo blkid            also may give some info about the disk
[22:43] <dharmaturtle> I used: sudo mount -t hfsplus -o rw,remount -force /dev/sdb3 /media/DISK1
[22:45] <dharmaturtle> ah, I see it with blkid.
[22:47] <jatakk> Hey this is probably a dumb question, but device drivers are not written to the device itself are they? Only the os itself.
[22:47] <jatakk> Like if I use a third party driver for a bluetooth dongle on Windows that will have no effect on it in linux will it?
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> jatakk:  it shouldent
[22:48] <dharmaturtle> if its on the device, I think its called firmware.
[22:48] <jatakk> Yeah cool, thought so.
[22:48] <jatakk> Cheers guys.
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> jatakk:  i hjave seen windows initialize a device (a sound card) with goofy settings where linux couldent reset it. but a cold boot straight to linux fixed that
[22:48] <gtinternet> I am trying to install Ubuntu Server 13.04 to my PowerEdge R610 with hardware raid 1, and it never gets to the bootloader.
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> but that was more of a bug in the drivers i imagine
[22:49] <jatakk> Dr_Willis: Well it's just a pretty standard bluetooth dongle I use to connect a PS3 controller to the computer. I can't imagine it'd have any settings written to it.
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> i doubt if it does
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> Bluetooth in linux is just wonky ;)
[22:50] <dharmaturtle> I used "mv" on a folder with 70 gigs of text (80k files) and moved it to another drive. How do I know when the transfer is finished?
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> i would have copied it first dharmaturtle  then removed the source after verifying it was  successfull
[22:53] <dharmaturtle> crap, you're right.
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> or use rsync
[22:53] <dharmaturtle> no way to find out I guess? My main drive is still at 100%, oddly enough :/
[22:54] <dharmaturtle> capacity.
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> i cant recall the last time i used 'mv' ;)
[22:54] <dharmaturtle> how would you verify? diff?
[22:56] <BruceS> echo hello there | sed s/\(ll\)/xx\1/ - I expected hexxllo there but get hexxlo - why am I not getting the second l in the match?
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> i tend to just double check the sizes ;) but i tend to just copyu a few big video files at a time. rarely 10000000+ little files
[22:57] <Gh0st> I never knew there was so many programming languages.. :O
[22:57] <sordidbass> I use a USB sound card instead of the built in audio on my motherboard. Everytime my computer boots up the USB soundcard gets set to 100% (max) volume. How can I prevent this?
[22:57] <newtoarch> How can I install the broadcom sta driver without a wired or wireless connection? Is there a way to install from the install disk?
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> !aptoncd