[12:11] <pielgrzym> kalagaraz: I don't want grub, and what does this chroot do?
[12:11] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[12:11] <kalagaraz> huh?
[12:11] <kalagaraz> my chroot is for installing 32bit on 64bit
[12:13] <pielgrzym> kalagaraz: sorry :)
[12:13] <kalagaraz> sorry? huh? what? confused :(
[12:13] <cpk1> isnt gtk the gnome enviroment?
[12:13] <pielgrzym> kalagaraz: nevermind :)
[12:17] <Zaire> does anyone know how I might be able to upgrade Dapper to edgy using apt?
[12:19] <ditte> hi
[12:19] <ditte> does anybody know how to get the java-package?
[12:19] <Hawkwind> Zaire: You can replace all instances of dapper with edgy in your sources.list.  But I'd suggest waiting til Edgy becomes final and stable unless you really want a broken system
[12:19] <Hawkwind> !java
[12:19] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:20] <ditte> seriously, people, I have detailed instructions, but one of the packages I need has disappeared from the archives
[12:20] <ditte> including *verse
[12:20] <pielgrzym> how to make lilo boot another system (linux) which has a separate /boot partition? please help:( I hate lilo :(
[12:21] <sorush20> pielgrzym: I would recommend installing grub from a ubuntu install cd..
[12:21] <Hawkwind> ditte: What package ?
[12:21] <kalagaraz> (xvidcap:24172): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[12:21] <kalagaraz> Someone help me fix :(
[12:21] <Blissex> pielgrzym: just add a pointer to the other kernel to the '/etc/lilo.conf'. LILO does not care where the kernels it boots come from.
[12:21] <pielgrzym> sorush20: my current install is fully xfs (and grub suck with xfs)
[12:21] <Blissex> pielgrzym: probably you want to specify a different 'root=' for the other kernel.
[12:21] <pielgrzym> Blissex: I tried
[12:22] <ditte> Hawkind: java-package
[12:22] <sorush20> pielgrzym: hang a round and get some more help..
[12:22] <pielgrzym> Blissex: I'll give you my lilo.conf :)
[12:22] <Hawkwind> ditte: Have you read the URL ubotu just suggested ?
[12:22] <Blissex> pielgrzym: OK....
[12:22] <sorush20> Blissex: I'm prob being nosy by do you really need xfs?
[12:23] <ditte> Hawkind: yes, but I'm trying to get Java to work on konqueror, not Firefox
[12:23] <pielgrzym> !pastebin
[12:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:23] <ditte> Hawkwind: I have it all figured out, only apt-get install java-package tells me the package is obsolete
[12:24] <Hawkwind> ditte: It doesn't tell me that here
[12:24] <sorush20> I seem to be missing hal
[12:24] <pielgrzym> Blissex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23923 - the config I try to run is at the very bottom
[12:24] <ditte> Hawkind: you can actually download it??
[12:24] <pielgrzym> I have /boot on hde1 and / on hd4
[12:24] <pielgrzym> hde4
[12:25] <Hawkwind> ditte: I just installed it.  It comes from multiverse
[12:25] <Hawkwind> !info java-package
[12:25] <ubotu> java-package: utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.27 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 336 kB
[12:25] <kalagaraz> Could anyone help me fix: (xvidcap:24368): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[12:25] <pielgrzym> when I try doing 'other=/dev/hde1' I get a 'non bootable error (hence the partition has bootable flag :((( )
[12:25] <ditte> Hawkwind: this is a serious case of the what the f***. Do I need to restart the computer, after I enable multiverse?
[12:25] <Hawkwind> ditte: However, the java how-to page doesn't say anything about needing to install the java-package app at all
[12:25] <ditte> Hawkwind: before you ask, I *did* apt-get update:)
[12:26] <Hawkwind> ditte: No, did you do: sudo apt-get update ?
[12:26] <ditte> Hawkwind: it says so here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90919.html
[12:26] <Hawkwind> ditte: You don't need java-package.  Read the instructions the bot gives here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[12:26] <ditte> Hawkwind: I did
[12:26] <ditte> Hawkwind: three times, just to be sure:)
[12:26] <Hawkwind> ditte: Nowhere does it say to install java-package
[12:27] <Hawkwind> ditte:   sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[12:27] <Hawkwind> ditte: That's really about all you need
[12:27] <Blissex> pielgrzym: you got to put 'root=....' in an 'append' line.
[12:27] <sorush20> when I click on the floppy icon to mount the floppy I get the message that this feature is only available with HAL
[12:27] <ditte> Hawkind: paragraph 3, together with fakeroot
[12:28] <Blissex> pielgrzym: also, your 'lilo.conf' is like most a bit messy...
[12:28] <Hawkwind> ditte: You run PPC ?
[12:28] <pielgrzym> Blissex: 'append' line?
[12:28] <ditte> Hawkind: AMD64
[12:28] <Hawkwind> ditte: Then you don't need to be doing the PPC instructions
[12:28] <CFx> i tried alsamixer and the master volume is set to 100 but still the mp3 is not playing :-ss
[12:28] <Hawkwind> That java-package is if you own a PPC(Mac)
[12:29] <ditte> Hawkwind: and it says it doesn't have sun-java5-bin either
[12:29] <sorush20> CFx: are you getting any sound?
[12:29] <sorush20> CFx: from anything else?
[12:29] <pielgrzym> Blissex: like append='root=/dev/hde4' ?
[12:29] <ditte> Hawkind: I don't, this is a PC. A Sempron
[12:29] <CFx> yep...
[12:29] <Hawkwind> ditte: You sure you have all the repos set correctly ?
[12:29] <CFx> i am getting error windows box sounds
[12:29] <ditte> Hawkind: I jsut uncommented everything
[12:29] <Hawkwind> ditte: Might want to put your /etc/apt/sources.list into http://pastebin.ulteo.us
[12:29] <sorush20> CFx: what program are you using to play the mp3?
[12:30] <Blissex> pielgrzym: like that. Wait a sec for an example
[12:30] <CFx> its kafennie
[12:30] <pielgrzym> Blissex: thanks
[12:31] <CFx> sorush20 any helps ??
[12:31] <CFx> plz
[12:31] <ditte> Hawkind: ok, doing it
[12:31] <sorush20> CFx: in kaffeine go to settings > xine prameters
[12:31] <CFx> sorush20: then..
[12:31] <sorush20> CFx: then go to audio
[12:31] <CFx> okie
[12:31] <CFx> then....
[12:31] <sorush20> CFx: what is selected auto?
[12:31] <CFx> yep
[12:32] <pielgrzym> Blissex: let me explain one thing :) I made a copy of my ubu but I separated the /boot to another partition in this copy. I just want to boot the copy to check if it will work
[12:32] <sorush20> CFx: is software audio mixer selected?
[12:32] <Zaire> !mp3
[12:32] <mark__> whee new laptop
[12:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:32] <CFx> i have selected everything
[12:32] <CFx> lol
[12:32] <kalagaraz> how do I install xhost on a chroot?
[12:32] <ditte> Hawkwind: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/111
[12:32] <mark__> now to get wireless working so i can remove its lan umbilical cord
[12:33] <sorush20> CFx: do you have the codec for mps ?
[12:33] <Hawkwind> ditte: Your sources list is incorrect
[12:33] <Hawkwind> ditte: You need to add multiverse to the lines that have universe on them
[12:33] <CFx> sorush20: dono... where i can get them??
[12:33] <ditte> Hawkind: do you mean the last two?
[12:34] <sorush20> CFx: you have to follow the instruction about the mp3
[12:34] <Blissex> pielgrzym: not clear what you want to do. However have a look at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23925
[12:34] <sorush20> and restricted format
[12:34] <Hawkwind> ditte: All of them that have 'universe'  you need to add 'multiverse'
[12:34] <sorush20> !mp3 > CFx
[12:34] <ditte> Hawkind: but I also leave "universe", right?
[12:34] <sorush20> ubotu: !mp3 > CFx
[12:35] <CFx> any sites to get those helps??
[12:35] <CFx> :-s
[12:35] <sorush20> !mp3
[12:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:35] <Hawkwind> ditte: Correct
[12:35] <sorush20> follow the first link
[12:35] <CFx> okie
[12:35] <Hawkwind> ditte: You want both universe and multiverse and whatever else is there
[12:35] <CFx> thnx
[12:35] <CFx> i need to check it... thnx
[12:36] <kalagaraz> xhost:  unable to open display "LOCALHOST:0.0"
[12:36] <kalagaraz> Getting that in chroot for 32bit
[12:36] <kalagaraz> when I try to do xhost +localhost
[12:36] <pielgrzym> Blissex: so you suggest to boot with my current kernel (located on hde6) with a certain parameter? will I be able then to unmount the drive with old os?
[12:37] <ditte> Hawkind: ok, give a minute to figure how to run kate as root:)
[12:37] <Hawkwind> ditte: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:37] <CFx> is this the codec for playing mp3?? http://downloads.xiph.org/releases/vorbis/libvorbis-1.1.1.tar.gz
[12:38] <sorush20> is kubuntu in launch pad?
[12:39] <CFx> sorush20 : http://downloads.xiph.org/releases/vorbis/libvorbis-1.1.1.tar.gz is the mp3 codec???
[12:39] <sorush20> CFx: I can see that you need a little one to one help..
[12:39] <ditte> Hawkind: how do you know this kind of thing?
[12:40] <ditte> seriously, sometimes I think aliens run this channel:)
[12:40] <sorush20> CFx: /join #sorush20
[12:40] <Hawkwind> ditte: I've just learned how the distro works in some ways and hanging out here you can learn tons of stuff :)
[12:40] <kalagaraz> (xvidcap:24559): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:   How can I fix that?
[12:40] <Hawkwind> ditte: Sometimes they do :P
[12:40] <sorush20> CFx: did you join .. ?
[12:41] <ditte> Hawkind: you're a developer?
[12:42] <Blissex> pielgrzym: I am not suggesting much, just listin possibilities. Which are only two: you tell LILO where the kernel is, and you tell the kernel where the root partition is.
[12:42] <Hawkwind> ditte: Nope.  Just run the distro for fun
[12:43] <Hawkwind> ditte: Have been running linux for nearly 5 years now
[12:43] <ditte> Hawkind: well, it's almost 5 days for me:)
[12:43] <ditte> used UNIX some, though, in university
[12:43] <Blissex> pielgrzym: you can have one kernel with two different root partitions, two different kernels with the same root partition, or any combination.
[12:43] <Hawkwind> ditte: Hah nice.  Hang around here and you'll learn a lot of great stuff, I promise
[12:44] <Blissex> pielgrzym: note that all partitions where a kernel mentioned in '/etc/lilo.conf' is must be mounted when you run 'lilo'.
[12:44] <kalagaraz> How do I fix a GTK cannot open display error
[12:45] <pielgrzym> Blissex: thanks
[12:45] <ditte> Hawkind: I hope so...right now I haven't managed to install anything that wasn't a simple apt-get
[12:46] <pielgrzym> Blissex: I'll try to mess aruond :)
[12:46] <ditte> and even the apt-get ones usually don't work:)
[12:46] <kalagaraz> Seriously no one knows how to fix gtk errors?
[12:46] <kalagaraz> Why do I always get errors no one can fix :(
[12:46] <Hawkwind> ditte: Having these repos should solve those problems for you
[12:47] <ditte> Hawkind: well, hrmm
[12:47] <ditte> take rosegarden: every time I press a key it gives me a segmentation fault
[12:48] <ditte> that sounds like a hardware problem to me
[12:49] <ditte> wow. It works!
[12:49] <ditte> I can go play scrabble on yahoo! games again!
[12:49] <ManiCiA> r there every1 using kubuntu?
[12:50] <rfw> i'm a linux newbie trying to try out gentoo..can someone help with the grub setup
[12:50] <ditte> ffs...I downloaded Java an hour ago, and it already tells me I'm using an outdated version
[12:51] <sorush20> !dial-up
[12:51] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[12:51] <sorush20> !dialup
[12:52] <gmalex_> good night people
[12:53] <kalagaraz> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[12:53] <kalagaraz> How do I fix that? :)
[12:56] <kalagaraz> ...
[01:00] <kalagaraz> !libxaw
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxaw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <kalagaraz> !libxawdev
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxawdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <kalagaraz> apt-get install said there was only libxaw8-dev  7 and 6 versions too
[01:03] <kalagaraz> I installed 8
[01:03] <ditte> well, goodnight people...thanks again Hawkwind
[01:04] <kalagaraz> grr
[01:04] <kalagaraz> stupid shift+backspace
[01:04] <kalagaraz> Anyways I installed 8, but configure still giving missing headers error and to install libxaw development package
[01:08] <sorush20> what package do I need to install to be able to access read and write ext3 from windows xp?
[01:08] <sorush20> there is project out there .. I think
[01:09] <kalagaraz> ugh
[01:10] <kalagaraz> Is there a package I can install that will add everything I need to compile stuff
[01:10] <kalagaraz> I keep getting lots of configure errors and installing packages 1 by 1
[01:10] <kalagaraz> configure: error: *** OpenGL missing - please install GL development package ***
[01:10] <Hawkwind> kalagaraz: build-essential
[01:11] <kalagaraz> already installed it
[01:11] <kalagaraz> still getting OpenGL missing
[01:14] <jmichaelx> lupine_85: are you out there?
[01:16] <D3ltaCain> any one here can help with a possible XServer problem?
[01:17] <sorush20> how do I check how long i have been in a chat room?
[01:31] <scribblez> test
[01:34] <lupine_85> [00:34]  [Whois]  sorush20 has been online since 18/09/06 23:19:38.
[01:35] <sorush20> thanks lupine_85
[01:43] <oisacx> Is there any fan of azureus here? And someone who is running the latest version of it in kubuntu?
[01:46] <mad_man> azureus=hog
[01:46] <mad_man> fat hog
[01:52] <Kr4t05> mad_man: All java programming is.
[01:52] <mad_man> java=big fat hog
[01:54] <JohnFlux> what's the highest DPI printer you can buy?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> Kr4t05: all java gui programming is :)
[02:00] <intelikey> who <insert discriptor here> set up an init script to over write /etc/motd    don't that break posix  and every other standard....
[02:02] <intelikey> the offending line    ../init.d/bootmisc.sh:          MOTD="`readlink -f /etc/motd || :`"
[02:02] <intelikey> no that's not it.
[02:03] <amarokker> Hi, i am trying to install ubuntu-desktop from kubuntu. for some reason its not working? is this kinda problem mentioned in the fAQ?
[02:03] <amarokker> (cause i haven't seen yet)- anywhos, some problem caused by gnome-libs
[02:03] <amarokker> and i can't figure out what it is- i purge the trouble-makers. and try again- with the same result- yes, i updated, tried --fix-missing
[02:05] <intelikey> amarokker what's the error message ?
[02:05] <amarokker> pasting it now- wait a min.
[02:07] <amarokker> http://rafb.net/paste/results/6lGXJg12.html
[02:07] <amarokker> intelikey: mostly invalid archive signatures
[02:07] <amarokker> will it work if i delete those and try again?
[02:07] <intelikey> paste your /etc/apt/sources.list also please
[02:09] <amarokker> intelikey: http://rafb.net/paste/results/FuVLXB52.html
[02:09] <amarokker> here.
[02:09] <amarokker> i got it from source-o-matic
[02:09] <intelikey> amarokker and you are not on dialup are you ?
[02:10] <amarokker> on adsl- but very slow- max download speed is 30kbps
[02:10] <amarokker> got into trble cause i tried saving up on the downloads using some old archive
[02:10] <amarokker> s
[02:10] <amarokker> started from a fresh kubuntu installation and got screw'd up long the way.
[02:11] <intelikey> amarokker try   sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:11] <intelikey> see if you get the same errors
[02:12] <amarokker> ok
[02:15] <intelikey> in your second paste i also sujest you comment out every thing from line 20 down    unless you just want to cause your self problems, or feel that software over two days old is too old.    and then   sudo apt-get update      but that's only a sujestion.
[02:16] <amarokker> intelikey: sure. no probs.
[02:19] <intelikey> i have nothing against adding a forign repo for a specific install.  but it should be closed as soon as it's not needed.   you don't want to pull in something by accident that will break the standard repos
[02:20] <ketsugi> Hmm
[02:20] <ketsugi> what can I use to display TeX documents?
[02:20] <intelikey> and apt doesn't check where it's from only if it's the newest.   newest != best    newest == newest
[02:21] <intelikey> tetex
[02:21] <lupine_85> newer is generally better, regressions aside
[02:21] <ketsugi> how about koffice?
[02:22] <lupine_85> koffice is just crap anyway ;)
[02:22] <Kalagaraz> Anyone know a program for taking videos of desktop?
[02:23] <jmichaelx> some say that the koffice word processor handles some foreign language scripts better..... hebrew, arabic and other right to left lingos
[02:23] <sorush20> is there anyway that I could find out how to detect my floppy
[02:23] <ketsugi> hm, openoffice writer doesn't open TeX either
[02:24] <intelikey> lupine_85 newer is generally where the bugs have not been found and remobed yet  :>
[02:24] <lupine_85> ketsugi: oh, sorry. I thought you were talking about repos :). have you tried xgdvi? (not idea what the DVI is about, but it says TeX)
[02:24] <lupine_85> intellikey: it's also where bugs get fixed
[02:25] <ketsugi> hm
[02:25] <ketsugi> I'm trying Kile
[02:25] <mad_man> i used kate to write a letter and saved the file normale. it turned (dont know when) into a binary. Why or how did this happen ?
[02:25] <lupine_85> most of the other repos never get updated
[02:25] <Kalagaraz> Anyone know where I can upload and host ogg videos for free?
[02:25] <lupine_85> IMO, ubuntu's repos get stale, quickly. Still, YMMV which is why you get to choose what repos you use :)
[02:27] <shulman> I'm running Kubuntu 6.06 with the nvidia driver with dual screens. My screen #1 keeps getting a resolution slightly higher then what I'm setting it to. I usually set it to 1024x728, and it tries no matter what to kind of pan and scan around the screen. How do I fix this?
[02:28] <larson9999> it's my hard i have a hard time detecting
[02:29] <oisacx> hi i'm back
[02:29] <intelikey> shulman that's not a bug.  that's the "vertual"  setting in the xorg.conf   look it up.    comment out the line and it will stop that.
[02:29] <shulman> intelikey -- thanks!
[02:30] <Jucato> "virtual"
[02:30] <intelikey> local dependant maybe
[02:32] <shulman> odd.. I'm looking at my xorg.conf right now. There is no mention of virtual in there
[02:32] <shulman> I can pastebin this...
[02:32] <intelikey> paste it
[02:32] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[02:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:33] <intelikey> also of note.   if there is a copy of xorg.conf in the home of whoever starts X it's the one read, not the one in /etc
[02:33] <shulman> What confuses me is this is also effecting the login screen
[02:35] <beermunk> anyone available to help me out with some wireless questions?
[02:36] <lupine_85> beermunk: sort of :)
[02:36] <beermunk> heh
[02:36] <beermunk> i've got a dell latitude d500
[02:36] <beermunk> after weeks of google I can't find one solution to turn it on
[02:36] <beermunk> some posts read 'use ndiswrapper'
[02:36] <beermunk> some not
[02:37] <lupine_85> I assume it's using a broadcom card?
[02:37] <beermunk> i know that kubuntu doesn't support my chipset, a truemobile 1400 broadcom
[02:37] <beermunk> yep
[02:37] <lupine_85> is 1400 the model number?
[02:37] <beermunk> that's what dell calls it's wireless chipset
[02:38] <ulyssus> MrKnibbels: Besser?
[02:39] <lupine_85> hmm, a bcm4307
[02:39] <lupine_85> looks like you should use ndiswrapper
[02:39] <beermunk> hehe
[02:39] <beermunk> and that's where I get confused
[02:39] <intelikey> shulman where's that pastebin url ?
[02:39] <shulman> pastebin appears to be hanging -- here's my xorg.conf http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=22278
[02:40] <lupine_85> ok, easy enough... 1. blacklist th bcm43xx module
[02:40] <beermunk> i've found a bunch of sites with terminal comands
[02:40] <lupine_85> (add "blacklist bcm43xx" to the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist - you'll need to be root/sudo
[02:40] <beermunk> k
[02:41] <kalagaraz> any tools for linux for coverting ogg video to mpeg or some other popular format?
[02:41] <lupine_85> mencoder ?
[02:42] <lupine_85> beermunk: once you've done that, drop to terminal for a second and run "sudo rmmod bcm43xx" - give it your password when it asks
[02:43] <beermunk> done and done lupine
[02:43] <lupine_85> shout when you're that far, and we'll move on to the fun of ndiswrapper
[02:43] <lupine_85> okay :)
[02:44] <beermunk> thanks, btw
[02:44] <lupine_85> next install the package "ndiswrapper-utils"
[02:44] <lupine_85> np
[02:44] <beermunk> already got it
[02:44] <intelikey> shulman it is which display ?   0/1
[02:44] <lupine_85> ok, and do you have some windows drivers for your card handy?
[02:44] <beermunk> actually, I don't
[02:44] <intelikey> or both ?
[02:44] <shulman> intelikey display 0
[02:44] <beermunk> i can find them real quick though
[02:44] <intelikey> k
[02:44] <lupine_85> go download them from the Dell website (I'd imagine) then :)
[02:45] <beermunk> i need the inf file?
[02:45] <lupine_85> the .inf and .sys, at the very least
[02:45] <lupine_85> it's best to have it all though
[02:46] <lupine_85> apparently the .inf should be called bcmwl5.inf
[02:46] <beermunk> downloading the driver right now, but it's an .exe file
[02:46] <beermunk> can I extract that I wonder...
[02:46] <beermunk> or do I have to go back to windows, extract it
[02:47] <lupine_85> hopefully it's just a packaged zip file
[02:47] <lupine_85> (in which case unzip should work) - if not, it might run under wine
[02:48] <beermunk> actually, i just found the inf file off of broadcom's website
[02:48] <lupine_85> the .sys as well?
[02:49] <lupine_85> I was about to say, they're here... http://nicolas.bonifas.free.fr/inspiron/ (at the bottom)
[02:49] <intelikey> shulman well i'm with you.  i don't see a good reason for it.   i have many times seen xorg use the virtual setting and let you pan the display  but all i can see that i might sujest there is to comment out all rez higher than the the desired and see what it does.
[02:50] <beermunk> okay, got them both
[02:50] <intelikey> i.e. remove all mention of 1100+
[02:51] <kalagaraz> I can't move stuff to my windows partition?
[02:51] <lupine_85> okm stick them in the same directory together, drop to console again and run "sudo ndiswrapper -i /path/to/bcmwl5.inf"
[02:51] <Jiraiya> your windows partition is probably dirty and needs to be diskchecked
[02:51] <lupine_85> that's a lower-case i (as in eye ;) )
[02:52] <TheReconHunter> Hey, i have a quick question. In amaroK i somehow made the file menu disappear, anyone know a fix?
[02:52] <beermunk> okay, I want to install the driver, correct?
[02:52] <kalagaraz> I can take from my windows partition though
[02:52] <lupine_85> yep, that's what ^ ndiswrapper -i ^ does
[02:53] <lupine_85> after that, run "sudo ndiswrapper -m"
[02:53] <Jiraiya> don't do it beermunk, its a trap!
[02:53] <TheReconHunter> Someone plz help, its a pretty quick fix
[02:53] <beermunk> hahah
[02:53] <lupine_85> ?
[02:53] <Jiraiya> your computer will go X.X
[02:53] <beermunk> ahh - it gave me a list of commands after i did the -i command
[02:53] <beermunk> okay, got the -m
[02:53] <beermunk> added the alias
[02:54] <cpk1> i thought it was depmod -a or something to install a ndiswrapper module
[02:54] <lupine_85> ok, next is apparently some magical trickery with the .inf file (I got this from google) - "sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf"
[02:54] <dungkal> TheReconHunter: wait... ;-)
[02:54] <cpk1> TheReconHunter: just because we use kubuntu doesnt mean we all use amarok
[02:54] <Jucato> does anyone know what package installs the doc files in Quanta's Documentation tab?
[02:55] <cpk1> i use xmms and mplayer, not any of the kde stuff
[02:55] <beermunk> didn't like that command
[02:55] <lupine_85> what did it say?
[02:55] <TheReconHunter> ^^ i figured most of you did
[02:55] <beermunk> sed: can't read /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf: No such file or directory
[02:56] <lupine_85> heh
[02:56] <lupine_85> well, let's try it without that :)
[02:56] <Jucato> TheReconHunter: Ctrl+M ?
[02:56] <beermunk> k
[02:56] <lupine_85> just "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" now
[02:56] <TheReconHunter> well, cant anyone help? my gosh, it should atleast be installed
[02:56] <TheReconHunter> its udner like one of the first few tabs
[02:56] <TheReconHunter> aight jucato
[02:56] <TheReconHunter> lemme try
[02:57] <lupine_85> ndiswrapper -l (lowercase L) will show all installed driversand the hardware's status
[02:57] <TheReconHunter> horray thanks
[02:57] <beermunk> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[02:57] <lupine_85> you want to see "driver present, hardware present"
[02:57] <lupine_85> hmmm
[02:57] <lupine_85> does that file exist?
[02:58] <beermunk> yes
[02:59] <jpiccolo_> anyone know how i would be able to get streaming audio to work?
[02:59] <lupine_85> yes... it does. O, what does ndiswrapper -l say?
[02:59] <lupine_85> (L, lowercase)
[02:59] <beermunk> .  /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[02:59] <beermunk> that's what it prints
[03:01] <lupine_85> hmmm... when you did ndiswrapper -i, did it give any error messages?
[03:01] <lupine_85> (that's eye)
[03:01] <lupine_85> silly fonts
[03:03] <beermunk> yeah
[03:03] <beermunk> here's the error:
[03:03] <beermunk> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[03:04] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[03:04] <lupine_85> ok, that means that ndiswrapper -i (eye) wasn't successfuly
[03:04] <lupine_85> hence why sed failed, also
[03:05] <beermunk> i see
[03:05] <beermunk> eye see!
[03:05] <lupine_85> hehe :)
[03:05] <lupine_85> so you got the .inf and .sys from the Dell site, and they were in the same directory when you ran the command?
[03:05] <beermunk> they're on my desktop
[03:06] <pascal_> How do I make my display stop going into standby every five minuttes?
[03:06] <pascal_> (when not using the mouse)
[03:06] <pascal_> (and keyboard)
[03:06] <Jucato> pascal_: System Settings > Display > Power Saving tab
[03:06] <lupine_85> so you'd run "sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/beermunk/Desktop/bcmwl5.inf" ?
[03:06] <pascal_> thanks
[03:06] <lupine_85> you can't use ~/Desktop because you're using sudo
[03:07] <beermunk> damn, forgot the home
[03:07] <lupine_85> (so it goes to /root/Desktop)
[03:07] <lupine_85> hehe :)
[03:07] <lupine_85> go again
[03:07] <beermunk> okay got that now
[03:07] <beermunk> now do the other command
[03:08] <i4get2> hmm edgy seems ok so far..
[03:08] <pascal_> hmm. it's not enabled
[03:08] <lupine_85> beermunk: yes, the sed one
[03:08] <beermunk> damn, -i gives me the same error again
[03:08] <pascal_> power save, that is
[03:08] <lupine_85> grr
[03:08] <lupine_85> sorry, but I've got to go :(
[03:08] <beermunk> aaron@aaron-laptop:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper -i
[03:08] <beermunk> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[03:08] <Jucato> pascal_: is your screensaver enabled?
[03:08] <beermunk> that's alright - thanks though!
[03:09] <crimsun> ``sudo modprobe ndiswrapper -i'' looks invalid to me. What's that stray "-i" doing there?
[03:09] <pascal_> Well I just enabled it, but it doesn't show it because it goes into standby mode before I want the screensaver to show
[03:10] <pascal_> It also went into standby mode before I enabled the screensaver
[03:10] <kalagaraz> How do I start the kde-manager
[03:10] <kalagaraz> kde theme manager
[03:10] <Jucato> pascal_: hm... that's really strange
[03:10] <pascal_> I knwo
[03:10] <Jucato> kalagaraz: kde theme manager or kdm theme manager?
[03:10] <kalagaraz> umm dunno...
[03:10] <kalagaraz> The one that changes the color of my windows and stuff
[03:11] <Jucato> kalagaraz: ah, kde theme manager
[03:11] <Jucato> kalagaraz: but you can change those stuff in System Settings > Appearance
[03:11] <kalagaraz> I that a ,kth file
[03:11] <Jucato> ah
[03:11] <pascal_> I find out another day. Thanks kalagaraz
[03:11] <Jucato> kalagaraz: Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol"
[03:12] <kalagaraz> what he thank me for/
[03:12] <Jucato> kalagaraz: just make sure that you already have the other "settings/themes" required by the .kth file, otherwise you end up with a botched theme
[03:12] <kalagaraz> well I installed it before
[03:12] <kalagaraz> but I decided to hold power button down to logout
[03:12] <kalagaraz> log back in and its all screwed up :(
[03:13] <Jucato> ...
[03:13] <kalagaraz> hmm
[03:13] <kalagaraz> yay
[03:13] <kalagaraz> back to normal
[03:13] <Jucato> :)
[03:14] <kalagaraz> note to self: no holding down power button for quick shutdown :(
[03:14] <Jucato> heh. that's an emergency shutdown :P
[03:15] <kalagaraz> whats a good FPS to record at for istanbul
[03:16] <kalagaraz> I tried 30fps and when I watched the video it did about 3 minutes of recording in 2 seconds
[03:16] <kalagaraz> hold that thought, brb
[03:17] <intelikey> kalagaraz hold down power button ?    na  just pull the plug  :>
[03:17] <Jucato> believe it or not, my mom thought that was the normal way to turn off a computer...
[03:18] <Jucato> pre-XP days
[03:18] <cpk1> i thought you just flipped the switch on the power strip
[03:18] <intelikey> Jucato it's not ???
[03:19] <intelikey> cpk1 man after my own heart...
[03:19] <Jucato> intelikey: now, cpk1's method is the normal way
[03:20] <intelikey> but seriously linux needs a file system that can take that kind of power off.  ext# can't take it.
[03:20] <intelikey> rieserfs can't either.
[03:20] <Jucato> hmm... NTFS? :P
[03:20] <intelikey> hehhe no.
[03:21] <Jucato> ah!
[03:21] <Jucato> FAT16
[03:21] <intelikey> vfat
[03:22] <osiris> actually ntfs has held up very well in my arcade cabinet, that gets hard powered
[03:22] <intelikey> vfat handeled it well.    romfs cramfs   would work.
[03:22] <osiris> an old quantum bigfoot drive
[03:23] <cpk1> hd now can handle sudden poweroffs
[03:23] <cpk1> i thought they made them so they dont land badly on a loss of power now
[03:24] <intelikey> it's "write in progress" that is the most dangerous to a modern fs.
[03:27] <steve_> Hey all. Quick question. I intsalled FLUXOBX via Synaptic. I rebooted, was prompted with the login GUI (kdm?) I chose FLUXBOX as my session type and logged in. FLUXBOX loaded up great. I right click on the desktop and there is a menu title labled 'FLUX' but there is NO MENUS under it! Where are the menus that are supposed to be there? All there is is a lil rectangle with the work FLUX in it. Any pointers from you?
[03:27] <cpk1> you probably need to put things into the menu
[03:27] <steve_> how do i do that? what conf file?
[03:28] <cpk1> your the one with flux =P
[03:28] <steve_> if you let me know what file is play with, i can google info on that conf file. I already googled to death with no luck on this issue.
[03:28] <intelikey> sduo update-menus
[03:28] <steve_> lol
[03:28] <cpk1> it probably defaults to not having anything in the flux menu
[03:28] <intelikey> sudo
[03:28] <steve_> thanx, lemmy try that
[03:28] <steve_> roger that
[03:29] <steve_> should i load the FLUX session and run that? or can i do that from within my XFCE session?
[03:30] <intelikey> flux.   might work from others... idk
[03:30] <steve_> k. thanx Intelikey
[03:30] <rpalkovic> FIrst off, I'm reasonably new to Linux.  Second, I love it.  Third, I need help from an experienced user to help with moving my boot partition
[03:30] <rpalkovic> :)
[03:31] <steve_> is it better to perform these operations within a terminal GUI or should i drop into a TTY?
[03:31] <ubuntu> hello are there any people here that can help me with me resolution?
[03:31] <rpalkovic> ubuntu: depends - what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:31] <intelikey> gui   in case the script looks for env $
[03:32] <steve_> no idea what that means, but thanx intelikey =)
[03:32] <kalagaraz> http://www.zippyvideos.com/5660016326006336/movie/
[03:32] <kalagaraz> Does that video look good?
[03:32] <kalagaraz> I like the plugin to watch it
[03:32] <kalagaraz> like = lack
[03:34] <intelikey> rpalkovic 2 questions.  do you dual boot ?   and why are you trying to move the boot partition ?
[03:34] <rpalkovic> i DID dual boot to winxp
[03:34] <rpalkovic> but then i gave bill gates the 'ol heave ho.
[03:35] <rpalkovic> but when I first set up my harddrive, I planned on dual booting to ubunto, so the boot partition is /dev/hda6 instead of (i think) /dev/hda1
[03:35] <rpalkovic> ubuntu*
[03:35] <ubuntu_> change it i try going into the screen resolution preference and it wont let me change it from m 640x480
[03:36] <rpalkovic> ubuntu_: you more than likely need to install your video card drivers.
[03:36] <intelikey> ok    and you want to change it why ?     (if it aint broke don't fix it or it will be)
[03:37] <ubuntuUser99> intelikey: thanx, the sudo update-menus worked from within a GUI terminal in a XFCE session. I logged out and logged into a FLUX session and the menus are NOW there! =)
[03:37] <ubuntuUser99> thank you very much intelikey
[03:37] <rpalkovic> intelikey: /dev/hda6 is only 10 gigs out of a possible 80 for the HD.   There's also about 50 gigs /dev/hda5 of windows storage that i need to get rid of now
[03:38] <rpalkovic> ideally - i want to move /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda1, delete everything else but /dev/hda7 (swap) and extend the size from 10 gigs to 80 gigs.
[03:38] <intelikey> bad idea
[03:38] <intelikey> try this.   add the free space to your system
[03:38] <rpalkovic> i don't have free space
[03:39] <rpalkovic> because there are about 18 gigs of unpartitioned space (old win partition) and 50 gigs of ntfs partition (windows storage) that exists before /dev/hda6
[03:40] <rpalkovic> and i can't delete them because i can't unmount /dev/hda6 (linux boot) and /dev/hda7 (linux swap)
[03:40] <ubuntuUser99> I see screenshots of desktops. There is a translucent network and CPU load graph on their desktop. what is that app?
[03:41] <intelikey> rpalkovic all that "50 gigs of ntfs partition"   is free space now   is it not ?   format it and mount it.   duh
[03:41] <rpalkovic> im not a fan of non contiguous disk space :)
[03:42] <intelikey> so fix it the way you think best.
[03:42] <rpalkovic> im trying to...  problem is I can't figure it ou
[03:42] <rpalkovic> out*
[03:42] <intelikey> right
[03:42] <cpk1> ubuntuUser99: maybe you want to link us the screenshots?
[03:42] <intelikey> well good luck with it.
[03:42] <ubuntuUser99> good idea. brb
[03:42] <rpalkovic> thanks for trying :)
[03:44] <Jucato> draik!
[03:44] <draik> Jucato
[03:45] <draik> !
[03:45] <draik> wassup
[03:45] <plugs> how do i get around this? "The following packages have unmet dependencies:"
[03:45] <intelikey> if you really don't want any breaks in your disk space,  mke2fs /dev/hda   and install on that.
[03:45] <Jucato> draik: not much. just put up the latest transcript
[03:45] <jj_> you install dependencies
[03:45] <draik> jmichaelx, did you receive the package yet?
[03:45] <draik> nice
[03:45] <draik> I have yet to work on them
[03:45] <rpalkovic> im guessing that's not going to preserve my current installation, right?
[03:45] <draik> met my mother-in-law this weekend... Good thing is that she likes me
[03:45] <intelikey> right
[03:46] <intelikey> draik wait 10 years and tell us if that's good or not
[03:46] <jj_> anyone in here run XGL/compiz?
[03:47] <draik> LOL @ intelikey
[03:47] <jmichaelx> draik: yes! i was looking for you earlier. i appreciate it VERY much :-D
[03:47] <draik> BTW, I'm not married, she just thinks that I'm going to propose this Thanksgiving
[03:47] <jmichaelx> draik: the package was at my door when i got home from work
[03:47] <draik> No problem jmichaelx
[03:48] <draik> was it what you needed/wanted?
[03:48] <jmichaelx> draik: definitely
[03:48] <draik> I'm glad :)
[03:48] <jmichaelx> me too!
[03:48] <jmichaelx> lol
[03:48] <draik> I can tell :p
[03:49] <jmichaelx> i will be sending you a bit of a reimbursement sometime this week yet
[03:49] <draik> don't
[03:49] <draik> it's not necessary
[03:49] <jmichaelx> i know, but i feel very grateful
[03:49] <jmichaelx> and want to
[03:49] <cpk1> plugs: if you use apt-get it should resolve dependencies on its own
[03:53] <sorush20> whois consolefx
[03:53] <sorush20> hi .. I think I was hacked by that person I was trying to help..
[03:53] <sorush20> after reboot I can't access my hdd I keep getting the message that the password list not present..
[03:54] <intelikey> rpalkovic before you go off half cocked and and try to install on hda  be advised that grub can not boot hda (lilo can however)   and i know of no ubuntu installer that can install to hda (but i have installed ubuntu there my self)   so if you are completely gung ho about it, i'll help but if you are whisteling in the breeze.  i sujest you just format and mount the rest of your disk  you can mount that 50g to /home  and sa
[03:58] <rpalkovic> intelikey: thanks for the warning :)  I'm not going to install on /hda becuase I'm trying to preserve my current installation.
[03:58] <rpalkovic> I know what I'm trying to do can be done, it's just a matter of figuring out how to do it.
[04:00] <intelikey> rpalkovic i know it can too.   make a new hda1 about 6g  format it  cp  your system to there.  rework grub reinstall it    re work fstab    re boot to the new partition and blank the rest of the drive.
[04:01] <intelikey> make a new hda2 out of the remaniing space mount it at /home  viola.
[04:02] <intelikey> cfdisk  mke2fs  cp  and nano    are all you need.
[04:02] <intelikey> and they are all installed.
[04:03] <intelikey> but when you finish you really wont have gained diddly squat.   your hd is still the same size.  and you still have partitions.  but they are numbered to your specs.
[04:03] <intelikey> and that makes you the winner
[04:04] <rpalkovic> lol
[04:04] <rpalkovic> I want two partitions, total.  78 gigs mounted at /, and 2 gigs for swap.
[04:04] <rpalkovic> im a pain in the ass, this i know.
[04:06] <intelikey> you wont do that without the process above.    only replage "make a new hda2 out of the remaniing space..."  with use gparted  to streach hda1   and when it borkes your fs  don't cry to me.
[04:07] <intelikey> resizing the partition the system is installed on requires boot from another source.  i.e. live cd
[04:08] <intelikey> i've gotten to where i don't even do partitions any more.
[04:08] <intelikey> i don't have a disk big enough to need partitioning
[04:10] <jmichaelx> <<likes machines with 4 GB and ^GB HDs :-D
[04:10] <jmichaelx> lol
[04:10] <jmichaelx> 6GB*
[04:12] <intelikey> yeah  i have 8 drives in this box  2x 4g and others are 8g
[04:12] <jmichaelx> ok that is very neat
[04:13] <intelikey> it's old  it's slow   it's dependable    it's configurable,  it's supported    :>
[04:13] <jmichaelx> yup
[04:13] <jmichaelx> not to mention cheap
[04:13] <jmichaelx> :-D
[04:13] <intelikey> free
[04:13] <jmichaelx> yup
[04:14] <intelikey> paid  $0.00  for it.
[04:14] <rpalkovic> It just occurred to me
[04:14] <intelikey> 17" crt  does 1600x1280   flawless  free.
[04:14] <jmichaelx> i spend (way) more time using my older boxes than my newer ones...
[04:15] <jmichaelx> wow
[04:15] <rpalkovic> that i really should have thought this through before getting attached to my configuration.
[04:15] <rpalkovic> not only is /dev/hda6 basically at the "end" of the drive
[04:15] <rpalkovic> it's also inside an extended partition
[04:15] <intelikey> rpalkovic just save  /home  to cd  and reload.
[04:16] <jmichaelx> my main PC does 1280x1024 on a 17 inch LCD, but i had to switch to 16bit color because its old graphics card could not support that rez at 24 bit
[04:16] <intelikey> and yes hda5+ will be extended
[04:16] <rpalkovic> grr.
[04:16] <rpalkovic> okay - lets try a different approach...
[04:17] <rpalkovic> can you think of any reason why I can't make any changes to the drive when booted from a Live CD?
[04:17] <rpalkovic> GParted won't let me edit anything
[04:17] <intelikey> jmichaelx odd thing with my old nv card  it does 24b and 15b  but not 16b   i have yet to figure out why 16b wont work.
[04:18] <jmichaelx> rpalkovic: i would suggest one thing... get the Gparted live CD... very very useful
[04:18] <intelikey> rpalkovic i told you you have to boot from another source.    can't mess with mounted file systems
[04:18] <rpalkovic> a live CD doesn't count as another source?
[04:20] <intelikey> live cd was my example yes.   you are using a live cd to attempt that now ?
[04:20] <rpalkovic> yeah, i tried that first
[04:20] <rpalkovic> booted w/ a Live CD
[04:20] <rpalkovic> ran gparted
[04:20] <rpalkovic> won't let me do anything but look, basically.
[04:21] <intelikey> but i still don't think you can change hda5 into hda1 with *parted
[04:21] <rpalkovic> i thought maybe the partitions had been mounted so I tried to umount them
[04:21] <rpalkovic> ahhh
[04:21] <rpalkovic> THAT might be the issue.
[04:21] <rpalkovic> so what I need to do is create /dev/hda1 in the unallocated space
[04:21] <rpalkovic> from a LIVE CD that is
[04:22] <rpalkovic> then cp /dev/hda6 /dev/hda1
[04:23] <rpalkovic> then change /boot/grub/menu.lst to boot from /hda1
[04:23] <Netslayer> I installed knetworkmanager and it's not finding any network devices, not even my wired one... any ideas?
[04:23] <intelikey> make hda1  starting at block 1   format it linux native   copy the system over   reconfig the system to live on hda1 rather than hda5   nuke all other partitions    resize hda1
[04:23] <rpalkovic> yes
[04:24] <intelikey> configuring includes  editing /boot/devices.map  /boot/grub/menu.lst  reinstalling grub   editing /etc/fstab      take notes      that's the last time i post it.
[04:25] <rpalkovic> heh
[04:25] <rpalkovic> i just copied it all down
[04:25] <rpalkovic> that's the first time i've heard mention of devices.map - here or in my google searches
[04:26] <intelikey> not sure if devices.map or device.map  but which ever exists.  you should make sure it's correct.
[04:26] <intelikey> it may not need any change  you are staying on the same disk...
[04:26] <rpalkovic> i don't even have a .map in boot
[04:27] <intelikey> /boot/grub/device.map
[04:27] <rpalkovic> oh
[04:27] <rpalkovic> and it's just mapping hd0 to /dev/hda
[04:27] <rpalkovic> i think it'll be cool to leave it
[04:28] <rpalkovic> but that's cool to learn.
[04:28] <intelikey> yeah.  like i said you are staying on the same disk.    but it's a good habbit to know what all affects the boot process and check all parts.  you may swap out a drive next time.
[04:29] <rpalkovic> last questions before i give this a go...  why reinstall grub if i'm not messing with /boot?  can't I just modify /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[04:29] <intelikey> try it and see.
[04:30] <rpalkovic> * is assuming that /boot is a seperate mount, not a subdir of /
[04:30] <intelikey> if boot is a partition.   then you will still have hda1 hda? and hda6
[04:31] <intelikey> sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[04:31] <rpalkovic> it's not, I don't, good point.
[04:32] <rpalkovic> alright.  i'm going to give this a go.  all else fails I'll just start from scratch.
[04:32] <powermac> hi. anyone have experience installing Mapivi?
[04:32] <intelikey> rpalkovic you are also using an init*.img   you should regenerate it.
[04:32] <leyci> oi!!
[04:32] <intelikey> it may try to mount / as hda5
[04:33] <leyci> alguem do brasil???
[04:33] <powermac> eu
[04:33] <intelikey> ignoring the fstab    i don't think they are that dumb  but you never know about distro builders
[04:34] <intelikey> they are like support personal,   you just never know.
[04:34] <rpalkovic> hah
[04:34] <Jucato> !br
[04:34] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus.  Obrigada.
[04:40] <intelikey> /join #ubuntu-br
[04:42] <powermac> how about perl/Tk? any tips?
[04:42] <intelikey> aaron the <device>  can ascertained via  "sudo fdisk -l "   and mount point created or selected <mount.point> == any empty dir
[04:42] <powermac> i'm stuck trying to install an app which requires it
[04:43] <InteliWasp> how do i brigde 2 network interfaces?
[04:43] <intelikey> doesn't actually have to be empty.   but any thing in the dir will be inaccessable while the fs is mount on over it.
[04:43] <powermac> looks like all is installed, but perhaps in wrong place
[04:44] <intelikey> powermac post the error message.  (not the full output, only the first line that says ERROR )
[04:44] <powermac> ok, hang on.
[04:45] <aaron> intelikey:  i found a guide here:
[04:45] <aaron> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[04:45] <aaron> #
[04:45] <aaron> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[04:45] <aaron> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[04:45] <aaron> /dev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:45] <aaron> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[04:45] <aaron> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:45] <aaron> damn, sorry about the spam
[04:45] <aaron> ctrl c didn't work
[04:45] <Jucato> !pastebin
[04:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:46] <aaron> intelikey:  here's the guide I was looking at for mounting my ntfs partition
[04:46] <aaron> http://www.psychocats.net/linux/mountwindows.php
[04:46] <powermac> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at mapivi line 177.
[04:46] <aaron> everything was fine until I got to "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[04:46] <aaron> my hda2 wasn't located there
[04:46] <aaron> so I couldn't change it
[04:47] <aaron> I added it but it didn't work
[04:47] <Dendron> can anyone tell me any ideas on why Ubuntu freezes up on me on my laptop and i have to then do a hard reboot.?
[04:47] <aaron> actually, i shouldn't say it didn't work
[04:47] <intelikey> aaron ok.   but i'm not the one wanting to know how.  :)     what's the device node?   hda2 ?    are you sure ?
[04:47] <aaron> after I added it, saved the file and then did "sudo mount -a"
[04:47] <aaron> so it looks like it mounted in the /windows folder I made, but now that folder's locked, I'm assuming because of the windows permissions
[04:48] <aaron> or did I do something wrong?
[04:48] <aaron> intelikey:  sorry, I saw that you replied to me before :)
[04:48] <intelikey> aaron post the one line from your fstab that you added.
[04:48] <powermac> not sure if you went over this, but i think you have to change the file permissions
[04:48] <aaron> standby
[04:49] <intelikey> powermac what app is this ?
[04:49] <powermac> i found i had to unmount paritions before using chmod
[04:49] <powermac> sorry
[04:49] <powermac> its called mapivi
[04:49] <aaron> .  /dev/hda2       /windows        ntfs    nosuid,nodev    0       0
[04:49] <powermac> a perl app photo browser
[04:50] <intelikey>  /dev/hda2       /windows        ntfs    nosuid,nodev,fmask=111,dmask=000    0       0   <<< change it to that for full access.
[04:50] <intelikey> aaron ^
[04:50] <aaron> yes?
[04:51] <aaron> ahh
[04:51] <aaron> thanks
[04:51] <intelikey> aaron then remount it.
[04:51] <powermac> http://mapivi.sourceforge.net/mapivi.shtml
[04:52] <intelikey> powermac yeah i was searching the repos for it...
[04:52] <powermac> funny, i managed to istall it ok on a powerbook
[04:52] <powermac> had some problems, but eventually it worked
[04:52] <powermac> now i'm on a powermac, obviously
[04:53] <intelikey> powermac give us the reason that preceeded "BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at mapivi line 177"   should be just above it.
[04:53] <powermac> Can't locate Tk.pm in @INC
[04:53] <aaron> intelikey:  thanks for that, after I saved the file i remounted it by "sudo mount -a" but the folder is still locked
[04:53] <powermac> is actually a few lines abouve
[04:53] <aaron> The error I get is : Unable to enter file:///windows. You do not have access rights to this location
[04:53] <intelikey> aaron that doesn't remount
[04:53] <aaron> ah
[04:54] <intelikey> aaron sudo umount -a ;sudo mount -a   will remount
[04:54] <aaron> umount: /dev: device is busy
[04:54] <aaron> umount: /var/run: device is busy
[04:54] <aaron> umount: /: device is busy
[04:54] <llxcamxll> what sorta benefits i gonna get from the full upgrade??
[04:54] <aaron> might have to restart eh?
[04:55] <intelikey> no
[04:55] <intelikey> it worked.
[04:55] <intelikey> look ad see
[04:55] <intelikey> llxcamxll little if any
[04:55] <aaron> HOLY SH*T - you are a God
[04:55] <intelikey> nope.
[04:56] <intelikey> if you think i am   just wait until you really meat one
[04:56] <Jucato> hm.. how do you meat a god? :P
[04:56] <Jucato> oops.. forgot my promise
[04:56] <Jucato> sorry intelikey
[04:57] <aaron> heheh
[04:57] <intelikey> Jucato was capitalized.   only one meaning.
[04:57] <InteliWasp> how do i brigde 2 network interfaces?
[04:57] <aaron> no, thank you - that's awesome
[04:57] <aaron> really really apreciate it
[04:57] <intelikey> np
[04:57] <aaron> i just got one step closer to never having to go back to xp
[04:57] <intelikey> like i said it's child's play
[04:57] <aaron> child's play, if you know what you're doing - but I'm learning
[04:58] <mad_man> can i open a exe file using wine on kubuntu that i downloaded ?
[04:58] <intelikey> i wish i knew about networking... so i could answer InteliWasp's Q
[04:58] <aaron> can you recommend a good vnc program that will work with Realvnc server installed on a windows machine?
[04:58] <intelikey> yep
[04:58] <ricucho> Hello...
[04:58] <aaron> hi!
[04:58] <intelikey> tightvnc should aaron
[04:59] <aaron> thanks
[04:59] <crweb> aaron: there is also vncviewer
[04:59] <ricucho> I'm trying the wireless card on my new pc to work but I'm having a bunch of problems
[05:00] <InteliWasp> intelikey: do you know where i could look for answers?
[05:00] <ricucho> I was wondering if someone could help?
[05:01] <intelikey> InteliWasp ##linux is often very helpful with my networking questions.  just don't tell them i sent you. and you might want to use another nick.... :)
[05:01] <powermac> you can also check out the install instructions on the ubuntu forum
[05:01] <ricucho> I used ndiswrapper to intalled the bcmwl5 driver but the network manager doesnt see the wriles card
[05:01] <InteliWasp> is that with 2 #  ?
[05:02] <InteliWasp> and do i want to know why i need to change my identity for that chann?
[05:02] <intelikey> yes
[05:03] <intelikey> well unless you want them to think it's me....   and two ##
[05:03] <powermac> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=130912&highlight=mapivi
[05:03] <intelikey> powermac try installing   libgtk2-perl   and run that again.
[05:04] <powermac> ok
[05:04] <powermac> am looking 4 it now
[05:05] <powermac> i thought i installed all those "libs"
[05:05] <ricucho> could someone help me w/ my wireless card?
[05:05] <InteliWasp> ricucho: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:05] <powermac> i have no experience with that - mine always worked
[05:05] <InteliWasp> ricucho: is that your card right?
[05:06] <intelikey> powermac that may not be the reason but  *.pm   generally means a perl module
[05:06] <mark_> !kde3.5.4
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <powermac> yes, it is a perl module
[05:06] <mark_> !kde 3.5.4
[05:06] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[05:06] <intelikey> !wifi > ricucho
[05:06] <mark_> eh, anyone have the gpg keys and repository for 3.5.4?
[05:06] <powermac> root@powermac:~/downloads/mapivi081# perl mapivi
[05:06] <powermac> Can't locate Tk.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at mapivi line 177.
[05:06] <powermac> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at mapivi line 177.
[05:07] <powermac> sry for huge amounts, but thats the full error msg
[05:08] <intelikey> oh   hehhe   sudo apt-get install perl-tk    - Perl module providing the Tk graphics library.
[05:08] <powermac> which i still get after installing the new lib
[05:08] <powermac> i have it all on my machine, but i think it in the wrong place
[05:08] <powermac> apt get will put it right?
[05:08] <intelikey> should
[05:09] <intelikey> apt is not infalable   not by a long shot.  but it's pretty good.
[05:09] <mark_> hush intellikey
[05:09] <mark_> apt has super cow powers
[05:10] <powermac> Package perl-tk is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:10] <powermac> no cow...
[05:10] <intelikey> apt is only as good as the app it calls    (at best)
[05:10] <intelikey> powermac it's in the repos.  check your sources.list
[05:10] <powermac> ah
[05:10] <intelikey> !into perl-tk
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about into perl-tk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <powermac> where is the sources list again?
[05:11] <intelikey> hmmm my  apt-cache search  shows    perl-tk - Perl module providing the Tk graphics library.   but the bot didn't find it...
[05:12] <Hawkwind> powermac: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[05:12] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:12] <intelikey> say /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:12] <mark_> wanna help me out intellikey?
[05:12] <intelikey> with ?
[05:12] <intelikey> the repo for kde #
[05:13] <mark_> yes
[05:13] <mark_> :)
[05:13] <intelikey> i don't know.  it.
[05:13] <mark_> darn
[05:13] <Hawkwind> mark_: What repo ?
[05:13] <mark_> kde 3.5.4
[05:13] <powermac> which repositories do i want?
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> its mentioned on the kubuntu web site  for the testing kubuntu in edgy
[05:13] <Hawkwind> mark_: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main
[05:14] <Hawkwind> powermac: You want universe, multiverse, main atleast
[05:14] <powermac> ok
[05:15] <intelikey> mark_ see Hawkwind above ^
[05:16] <intelikey> powermac      main restricted universe multiverse
[05:16] <intelikey> that standard   ^
[05:17] <Xanith> Hi, I'm trying to install the binary nvidia drivers... but when i type sudo nvidia-glx config enable, it says command not found
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. doing a dist-upgrade and all the kde stuff is still held back
[05:21] <powermac> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[05:21] <powermac>   perl-tk
[05:21] <intelikey> if some good developers would take an interest in "wesnoth"  it's got the makings of a really good and flexable game.    just needs some campains developed  that dont force you through a strict path of events.    it kinda makes ya feel like you are just there to watch, not involved or in control...     but the underlying game engine is pretty awsome.
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> You mean it plays like  games Like Starcraft/warcraft used to do? :P
[05:22] <cpk1> i like wesnoth ^^
[05:22] <intelikey> Dr_Willis i don't know never saw them.
[05:22] <cpk1> multiplayer can be a little slow though
[05:23] <intelikey> cpk1 yeah it's not really the type of game that is made for multiplayer.
[05:23] <intelikey> i mean it's basic design.
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> Good old "Warlords" :)
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> I was playing that under DosBox the other day
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Ok Kopete krashes like noones business
[05:25] <intelikey> like nobody binus
[05:25] <powermac> Setting up perl-tk (800.025-2)
[05:26] <powermac> and i get the same error, except the line number specified is different.
[05:26] <gdarel> Does anyone know where I can get some good information on hooking up a GC89 wireless (gsm) card?
[05:26] <intelikey> that's impossabe.
[05:26] <powermac> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at mapivi line 178.
[05:26] <cpk1> gdarel: the wiki
[05:27] <cpk1> gdarel: this for a laptop?
[05:27] <gdarel> yup
[05:27] <powermac> ok, so TK is on my machine, but perl can't find it, or the program cant' find it
[05:27] <cpk1> gdarel: the wiki has a list of what works natively and what needs ndiswrapper
[05:27] <powermac> where is it supposed to go?
[05:27] <cpk1> gdarel: either it *shouldnt* be difficult
[05:28] <powermac> how do i move it there?
[05:28] <intelikey> TK.pm would be the perl module for TK   if i am reading that correctly.
[05:28] <intelikey> dont move.  link.
[05:28] <cpk1> either way it shouldnt be difficult that is
[05:28] <powermac> Can't locate Tk/JPEG.pm in @INC
[05:28] <gdarel> Lemme take a peek  at the wiki
[05:28] <powermac> hmm, how do i do that?
[05:29] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Binaries?
[05:29] <intelikey> powermac   man ln     but syntax is;  ln -s /path/to/real /path/to/link.name
[05:29] <gdarel> Ah OK, I'm not concerned about the network card, the laptop has an internal one that works great
[05:29] <gdarel> I'm looking to get the wireless modem working
[05:29] <intelikey> DaSkreech ?
[05:29] <cpk1> oh hehe
[05:30] <powermac> ok, but where do i put that?
[05:30] <gdarel> I have not used a modem in like 10 years and cant remember crap
[05:30] <powermac> i dont know where the tk went, do it?
[05:30] <thompa> !edgy
[05:30] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:30] <powermac> do i?
[05:31] <intelikey> powermac find / -name <what ever you want to find>      and link it to where that thing is searching... but i'm still thinking you have something missing.
[05:31] <DaSkreech> Ok Kopete krashes like noones binaries?
[05:31] <DaSkreech> !hoary
[05:31] <ubotu> hoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"
[05:31] <powermac> me too
[05:32] <powermac> the instructions seem so easy
[05:32] <powermac> like golf, i guess
[05:32] <intelikey> powermac example of linking things.   ln -s /media ~/media
[05:33] <intelikey> put your mount point at your fingure tips
[05:33] <intelikey> you can rm the link at any time.   just don't rm with -R  or you wipe out whatever is mounted there
[05:33] <powermac> ok, well i think i'll have to deal with this later...
[05:34] <powermac> thanks so much though
[05:34] <powermac> was able to get apt-get working!
[05:34] <sandokan512> HOLA ANDRS MUJICA
[05:34] <DaSkreech> !es
[05:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:34] <intelikey> but again.  i think it's looking for something "not installed"  but the error message may be misleading.
[05:35] <powermac> did you take a look at the mapivi site/instructions
[05:35] <powermac> ?
[05:35] <sandokan512> FELICES FIESTAS PATRIAS ANDRA MUJICA
[05:35] <sandokan512> DIGO ANDRS MUJICA. FELICES FIESTAS PATRIAS.
[05:35] <DaSkreech> !kops
[05:35] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak or Hawkwind
[05:35] <intelikey> powermac no.     did you do    sudo ldconfig     cant hurt.
[05:36] <sandokan512> Y VIVA EL SOFTWARE LIBRE
[05:36] <intelikey> powermac what's the rul ?
[05:36] <nalioth> sandokan512: can you take that to #kubuntu-offtopic please?
[05:36] <Jucato> heh
[05:36] <Jucato> too late :P
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Woah instaban
[05:36] <Jucato> Hobbsee has wielded her longish sword :P
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Watch out for her pen!
[05:37] <Jucato> Chanserv giveth, and Chanserv taketh away
[05:37] <intelikey> my watch battery is dying.............   ;[
[05:38] <charsiew> bwahaha...that last exchange was funny
[05:39] <powermac> ok, tried that. same error.
[05:39] <powermac> should i do a full system update?
[05:39] <josh_> i have a setup.sh file
[05:39] <josh_> how do i run it?
[05:40] <intelikey> powermac it's a shame that that app is not in the repos....
[05:40] <powermac> i know...
[05:40] <cpk1> sh setup.sh i think
[05:40] <intelikey> josh_ sh setup.sh
[05:40] <powermac> nice app
[05:40] <powermac> but its in perl to be multi-platform, so the author says
[05:40] <josh_> i did it once
[05:41] <josh_> i must have done a typo last time lol
[05:41] <intelikey> josh_  or   sh /path/to/file/setup.sh     <--translate
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> !info nexuiz
[05:42] <ubotu> Package nexuiz does not exist in any distro I know
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> :(
[05:42] <josh_> ya
[05:42] <intelikey> !info kde
[05:42] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[05:42] <josh_> i got it after u told me the first time
[05:42] <josh_> whats the default port for teamspeak?
[05:42] <josh_> i dont know how to configure the server or anything
[05:43] <intelikey> i don't know.  i'm network illiterate,  and quite content to remain that way.
[05:44] <LKC> need help installing mp3 codecd and the like. i have changed the repositories top multiverse but now when i try to install pacages like libxine it says there was a break in the install
[05:44] <ironfroggy> is there a way from KDE to configure the CUPS server to allow connections from other boxes on my local network?
[05:44] <flaccid> ironfroggy: have you been using kcontrol?
[05:44] <ironfroggy> yes
[05:45] <flaccid> !cups
[05:45] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:45] <flaccid> read those?
[05:45] <Kiongku> hmm
[05:45] <flaccid> its in there, just can't remember where
[05:45] <flaccid> i'll look
[05:45] <ironfroggy> yeah i read those when i first set it up
[05:45] <flaccid> what is the error you get atm?
[05:45] <ironfroggy> i thought i found the right place in the cupsd.conf but it didnt seem to work.
[05:45] <LKC> plz help with insatlling music programs and codecs
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[05:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:46] <ironfroggy> the server wont allow connections from other boxes. the other boxes just get a general cant connect problem.
[05:46] <flaccid> ok
[05:46] <ironfroggy> no cups specific errors, that is
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> ironfroggy,  you can always edit the cups config file manually, or reenable the cups web interface.
[05:46] <flaccid> so is the problem samba or cups
[05:46] <LKC> i have followed those pages but when i try to install i get errors
[05:46] <flaccid> you need to get something from the logs to see what the problem is
[05:47] <ironfroggy> i can do this through the web interface? i have that enabled already but i didnt see anything there.
[05:47] <Kiongku> LKC: what errors?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> ironfroggy,  i was thinking the web interface was semi-crippled.
[05:47] <ironfroggy> i know what the problem is. its configured to only allow local connections.
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> ironfroggy,  you sure the changes are taking effect?
[05:47] <LKC> im getting "break errors"
[05:48] <flaccid> ironfroggy: its in the cups admin
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> cups  cupsd.conf has some very elaborate 'allow/deny' type options.
[05:48] <Kiongku> Dr_Willis: u think the prob for LKC is he did not enable the correct repos?
[05:48] <flaccid> ironfroggy: do you want anonymous access?
[05:49] <ironfroggy> flaccid: yes, nothing from outside my network will get to it anyway
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> Kiongku,  hard to tell.. since we dont know what his errors are. :P 'break' errorws dont mean much tome.
[05:49] <Kiongku> Dr_Willis: ehrm same here..
[05:49] <flaccid> goto cups server part in cups admin in kcontrol and change from localhost to hostname/lan ip and select anonymous
[05:49] <ironfroggy> if they do, i really dont care so much. my printer only holds 50 sheets so they cant do much damage :-)
[05:49] <ironfroggy> hmm..
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> cups  cupsd.conf  at the bottom . seems to have # Only listen for connections from the local machine.  Listen <IP_ADDRESS>:631
[05:50] <ironfroggy> it asks for a admin password, but i never remember configuring one. i mean, i just installed cups and my driver and was on my way.
[05:50] <Kiongku> LKC: u tried to install from adept or from terminal?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> that may be for the web interface however.
[05:50] <LKC> to quote it it says" There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[05:50] <LKC> adept
[05:51] <flaccid> i just showed ironfroggy that in the gui admin
[05:51] <larson9999> i have to give my sudo password to configure cups via the www tool
[05:51] <ironfroggy> is there some default admin password for the cups installation?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  heck - that dident even work for me - untill i edited the cups configs and a few other tweaks.
[05:52] <flaccid> thats coz basic http auth is on
[05:52] <LKC> it gives me similar messages in "add & remove" and "package manager"
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> unless theyve some how changed the default cups settings.  the webinterface used to be locked out.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2064
[05:52] <bimberi> !cupsweb
[05:52] <ubotu> To enable the administration functions of the cups web interface - "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" then "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart". Also, see !cups
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> How Dapper LTS Succeeded To Spoil CUPS Printing (Part One -- The Prelude)
[05:52] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: the only thing i had to do was make those changes to the group/user settings.  i undid them when i was done setting it up.
[05:53] <Kiongku> LKC.. paste ur sources in the pastebin and show me
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  heh - ok..  so we agree then. :P ya do need to 'tweak' cups to get the web interface working.
[05:53] <Jucato> !pastebin
[05:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:53] <Kiongku> yo Jucato.
[05:53] <Jucato> hi!
[05:54] <LKC> where do i get my sources (sorry im noob)
[05:54] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: yeah, apparently it's disabled by default for security reasons.  but as soon as you find the site telling you that and what you need to change it's not hard to deal wih
[05:54] <DaSkreech> !easysource
[05:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:54] <Kiongku> LKC: /etc/apt/sources.lst
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> 'for security reasons' is a thing that url i posted  sort of rants about. :P
[05:55] <DaSkreech> Kiongku: Whoops :)
[05:55] <Kiongku> DaSkreech: lol
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> but its  fun just to watch the  flamefest over it. :)
[05:56] <unix_lappy> hey Dr_Willis
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Howy unix_lappy
[05:56] <Kiongku> rofl
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Yo!
[05:56] <unix_lappy> ?
[05:56] <LKC> sent
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Wassssssssssup!
[05:56] <Kiongku> LKC: ehrm paste the url here :P
[05:57] <JFreakCapo> how can i mount a iso image in my hard drive into the cd-rom device ?
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> JFreakCapo,  you mount the image file to whever ya want to
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> the idea of 'into the cdrom device' is a little.. well.. missleading. :P
[05:57] <LKC> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23944 (sorry bout the name i thought it was to say ur name)
[05:58] <LKC> next time i will put mine
[05:58] <Kiongku> LKC: nvm.
[05:58] <reddwolf78> can someone tell me what happens if i find a virus on a thumb drive that has been infected and is there a way to cure it to use back with a windows os
[05:58] <flaccid> reddwolf78: what is the file extension/type of file?
[05:59] <JFreakCapo> Dr_Willis: let me explain something else, i have a virtual machine, then i need mount de iso image in the cd-rom device to see as a cd on the virtual machine, is it possible ?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 NameOfISOFile MountPoint
[05:59] <Xanith> how do i make certain programs start up automatically with kde?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> JFreakCapo,  using vmware?
[05:59] <DaSkreech> !autostart
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autostart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <JFreakCapo> right
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Blast why hasn't someone made that yet?
[05:59] <reddwolf78> i'm not sure exactly i know my friends windows was infected with the grimline virus and he asked me to cure some of his most inportant files
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> JFreakCapo,  the vmare  configuration tabs let you select a .iso file for the cdrom to appear as.
[06:00] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Made what ?
[06:00] <DaSkreech> !autostart
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autostart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> JFreakCapo,  ive installed windows95 and other os's with that feature. :P
[06:00] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Give me a definition and a wiki link if there is one
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Xanith: You put the shortcut or script in ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:00] <larson9999> i have a vfat partition.  updatedb doesn't seem to catalog the files on it.  is that the way it's suppose to work and is there a way i can get it to be included?
[06:00] <JFreakCapo> Dr_Willis: thks a lot, i gonna look it for
[06:00] <Kiongku> LKC: back up ur sources.lst "copy it to a new file name in the same folder"
[06:00] <Xanith> thanks
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  it may have that mountpoint on ignore.
[06:01] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: how do i check that?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  or if its not mounted at the time it updates it. it may get ignored
[06:01] <LKC> so copy it but give it a new name in the same folder?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  update the  database manually while its mounted and see
[06:01] <larson9999> it is mounted.  it gets mounted on startup
[06:01] <flaccid> reddwolf78: scan it and try to remove the virus. thats about all you can do
[06:01] <Kiongku> LKC: yes.
[06:01] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: i just did update it and files on it aren't found by locate
[06:02] <Dr_Willis>  updatedb will automatically parse GNU Locates /etc/updatedb.conf
[06:02] <reddwolf78> but linux does not have a virus scaner that i know of
[06:02] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: Yes it does
[06:02] <Kiongku> LKC: bcoz if u give same name.. it does not do anything :P
[06:02] <thompa> there are some
[06:02] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: It has many of them actually
[06:02] <reddwolf78> and i ran it through my windows virus programs and it does not touch it
[06:02] <larson9999> there is avg for linux
[06:02] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: klamav, clamav, AVG(also for Windows)
[06:02] <reddwolf78> how can i find them
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> PRUNEPATHS="/tmp /usr/tmp /var/tmp /afs /amd /alex /var/spool /sfs /media"
[06:02] <snooplsm> hey fellows
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: No Wikipage
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> There ya go.. RTFM to the rescue! :P
[06:02] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: sudo apt-get install clamav klamav
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> it ignores /media
[06:03] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Make me a description and PM it to me if you want
[06:03] <LKC> well i tried coping it but it wont let me
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Xanith: I assume you don't use sessions?
[06:03] <Kiongku> Yeee.. i like AVG
[06:03] <Hawkwind> Though virus scanners on Linux are really geared towards those that run a mail server with windows users
[06:03] <flaccid> reddwolf78: it does not touch it?
[06:03] <Kiongku> LKC: do via terminal
[06:04] <snooplsm> i accidently did sudo vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config on my schools server and it said that was reported, do you think i'll get in troubler?
[06:04] <LKC> says "acess denied"
[06:04] <reddwolf78> my avg on my windows side dows nothing with the grimlin viruse
[06:04] <reddwolf78> does*
[06:04] <ricucho> Hello, could someone help me w/ my wireless card?
[06:04] <flaccid> Hawkwind: are they server AV solutions. i wouldn't advise installing them on a desktop..
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> im curious as to what was watching that. :P
[06:04] <snooplsm> ricucho where are you at
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> did it let you see the file? :P
[06:04] <LKC> it says i must become a member
[06:04] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Why not ?   for programming courses. sickos.
[06:05] <LKC> i have but to reply i must be a member which im doing now
[06:05] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: i do RTFM but how did you find out that PRUNEPATHS="/tmp /usr/tmp /var/tmp /afs /amd /alex /var/spool /sfs /media"
[06:05] <flaccid> Hawkwind: ok sounds cool
[06:06] <Kiongku> LKC: oh ok register ur nick.
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  i looked at the config file mentioned at the bottom of the updatedb man page. :P
[06:06] <reddwolf78> my friend has a realy bad virus that he got on his windows machine
[06:06] <reddwolf78> it got to everything on his system
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  im good at  learning/exploreing
[06:06] <flaccid> Hawkwind: it can scan ext2 and fat filesystems by cli?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  thats where -- >  " updatedb will automatically parse GNU Locates /etc/updatedb.conf" came from
[06:07] <flaccid> reddwolf78: best you can do is scan it and try to remove it... thats all you can do
[06:07] <Hawkwind> flaccid: AFAIK it can do all FS's.  I know for sure ext2, ext3, Reiser, XFS.  Not sure about Windows type FS's but I believe so
[06:07] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: WTH is /alex ?  the guy who coded it and forgot to take his name out?
[06:07] <reddwolf78> me and him tryed but nothing happens he still has it
[06:08] <seb_> hi guys
[06:08] <seb_> just installed a few days ago ... im soooo happy :-)
[06:08] <flaccid> Hawkwind: sounds cool. i think i mistaken that for a different AV which only does mail
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  no idea.  i dont knwo what /sfs /afs or /amd are either. :P
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  i would guess some sort of network/virtual filesystem thang. :)
[06:09] <Hawkwind> flaccid: clamav is geared towards mail servers, but can certainly run on the desktop too without issues
[06:09] <flaccid> sweet
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> 'sour'
[06:10] <flaccid> reddwolf78: nothing happens is not a decent answer
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> 'concise and useless' :)
[06:10] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I have a script that runs clamav and rkhunter every day and logs each to a seperate file.  Very handy for added security :)
[06:10] <flaccid> rkhunter?
[06:11] <Hawkwind> flaccid: It's a root kit checker like chkrootkit, but better IMO
[06:11] <Hawkwind> It checks for more things and happens to be a bit more thorough
[06:11] <reddwolf78> i just ran a virus scan on the thumb drive and it found nothing but if i would run a scan with avg on my windows it would find several files that is corupted
[06:11] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: What's the issue exactly ?
[06:12] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: You don't have to worry about viruses in Linux.  They don't really survive or exist.  There are some, but they are very few and far between and don't work like viruses on Windows
[06:12] <reddwolf78> my friend asked me to save some files of his that was corupted by the grimlin viruse for the windows os
[06:12] <flaccid> if they are corrupted and you can't remove, there is nothing you can do...
[06:13] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: And you're worried about them corrupting your Linux install ?
[06:13] <reddwolf78> no i'm trying to save some of his files that he realy needs
[06:13] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: Then chances are you can't
[06:14] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: If you can't run AVG or MS's anti-spyware program on them to clean them up, then you can consider them trash
[06:14] <reddwolf78> so he could have them back for his windows  i was woundering if i clean them with linux could he still use them on windows with out the affect of the virus
[06:14] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: Only if you can for sure remove the virus.  If not, then there is nothing you can do
[06:14] <reddwolf78> thats the thing i have no idea what the virus realy is
[06:15] <flaccid> yeah those files are dead if you can't remove the virus
[06:15] <reddwolf78> on my avg on my windows os it calles it a grimlin
[06:15] <flaccid> reddwolf78: but you have run avg on them and said they had a a virus...
[06:15] <reddwolf78> yes
[06:15] <flaccid> there is usually a link to read up about the virus
[06:15] <flaccid> you can always google a virus name
[06:15] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: You can tell AVG to heal or quarantine the virus
[06:16] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: If you can't do that, then they are history
[06:16] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: To put it simple, there is nothing in Linux that's going to help you unfortunately
[06:16] <flaccid> except the spread of the virus, but yeah
[06:18] <reddwolf78> ok thanks for your help
[06:18] <reddwolf78> i will have to let him know that
[06:18] <flaccid> perhaps its a good opportunity for your friend to convert to linux...
[06:18] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Bingo!
[06:18] <reddwolf78> lol i'm getting him started with it
[06:18] <Hawkwind> Darn great idea
[06:18] <Kiongku> flaccid: world domination...
[06:18] <flaccid> the security just rox
[06:19] <flaccid> you actually have security in linux
[06:19] <reddwolf78> he standing behind me see this and ask how the suecurity is for linux
[06:19] <reddwolf78> security*
[06:19] <Kiongku> hmm u cant modify key system files without password
[06:20] <flaccid> its true multi-user
[06:20] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: Tell him that MS uses it for some of their servers :P
[06:20] <flaccid> just say 'NO VIRUSES ON LINUX'
[06:20] <flaccid> excuse the shouting
[06:20] <reddwolf78> lol
[06:20] <reddwolf78> how about hackers
[06:20] <DaSkreech> hi seb_
[06:20] <Kiongku> got firewall
[06:21] <flaccid> default security is at a good level
[06:21] <Hawkwind> Hackers are people who code :)
[06:21] <reddwolf78> or the ppl trying to get in to your system
[06:21] <Kiongku> actually i installed firewall separately
[06:21] <Hawkwind> You don't define hackers like most Windows users define them
[06:21] <Kiongku> yeah.. the bad ones are the crackers..
[06:21] <flaccid> script kiddies
[06:21] <ErikTheRed> what's a good program for batch transcoding from FLAC to MP3?
[06:21] <reddwolf78> sorry i get them confused sometimes
[06:22] <reddwolf78> can crackers get in
[06:22] <Kiongku> reddwolf78: dunno.. i put a firewall on my linux box and one thing i'm sure.. its much better then the one in windows.
[06:22] <Kiongku> *then than
[06:22] <flaccid> cracker is a broad term
[06:23] <ErikTheRed> or just ignore my question....
[06:23] <flaccid> cracker relates to mainly cryptography
[06:23] <flaccid> best just call them all cyber criminals
[06:23] <reddwolf78> with out a firewall would i have to worry about ppl getting in to the linux system
[06:24] <flaccid> reddwolf78: without a firewall on, linux is still very secure
[06:24] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: Any computer is only as safe as *you* make it
[06:24] <reddwolf78> i head it has a 128 bit encryption and it very hard to get through is this true
[06:24] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: It doesn't matter what it is.  If someone wants in bad enough and they know what they are doing, they can get in.  Nothing is impenetrable
[06:25] <flaccid> reddwolf78: well ssh has more than that
[06:25] <reddwolf78> ssh?
[06:25] <larson9999> why would anyone connect to the net without a firewall?
[06:27] <llxcamxll> because stone cold said so
[06:27] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Why wouldn't they ?
[06:27] <Hawkwind> larson9999: A lot of people only use a router without a firewall
[06:27] <reddwolf78> some routers have a built in firewall
[06:27] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i thought most routers have firewalls.
[06:28] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Most do.  But a router won't necessarily keep someone out either
[06:28] <DaSkreech> ErikTheRed: Still hunting that down?
[06:28] <Hawkwind> If someone wants in bad enough, and they know what they are doing, they can get in.  No way around it
[06:28] <reddwolf78> true  all firewalls have a back door of somekind
[06:28] <flaccid> reddwolf78: secure shell
[06:28] <flaccid> no they don't
[06:28] <reddwolf78> oh
[06:28] <flaccid> if they did have a backdoor, wed be screwed
[06:29] <reddwolf78> ok
[06:29] <Hawkwind> larson9999: I only use a router.  I don't use a firewall.  Yes, my router has a built in firewall but that means didly to a lot of smart people out there
[06:29] <larson9999> Hawkwind:  sure, so the answer to your questions of why wouldn't they is because most routers have firewalls and even if not there are software firewalls that are free.  that doesn't mean someone can't get in
[06:29] <flaccid> router firewalls and iptables etc. do well. i'd be more worried about IE on windows ... unpatched exploits/vulns
[06:29] <ErikTheRed> DaSkreech: yeah
[06:29] <reddwolf78> like zonealarm
[06:29] <larson9999> Hawkwind: so you disable your router's firewall?
[06:29] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Right.  I stated that quite some time ago
[06:30] <Hawkwind> larson9999: No.  But anyone with the right skills can bypass a router and its firewall in a matter of seconds
[06:30] <reddwolf78> my brother in-law says he can get in to a linux system in 5 minutes ( some how i realy dought that )
[06:30] <flaccid> Hawkwind: i don't think thats entirely true
[06:30] <larson9999> Hawkwind: same goes for my car's security system but i still lock it
[06:30] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Sure it is
[06:31] <reddwolf78> buy cracking his way through
[06:31] <larson9999> :)
[06:31] <flaccid> reddwolf78: what a bullshit artists
[06:31] <Hawkwind> larson9999: I still use a router
[06:31] <reddwolf78> i know
[06:31] <flaccid> Hawkwind: how can they?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> ErikTheRed: Audiokonverter?
[06:32] <ErikTheRed> I'll give that a try
[06:32] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Software and things like routers are only as smart as the person who programs them.  They all have an issue, or a bad piece of code that can be cracked, hacked or whatever.  Nothing is perfect nor is it impenetrable
[06:32] <flaccid> at the end of the day. i've never seen a person on linux say, i've been hacked!
[06:32] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I have.  I've had it happen actually
[06:32] <flaccid> Hawkwind: yes but your generalisation stretches to every product...
[06:32] <reddwolf78> how long would it take a average cracker to get through a linux systems encryptions
[06:33] <flaccid> reddwolf78: atm, prolly another 5-10 years
[06:33] <reddwolf78> excusme cyber crim*
[06:33] <larson9999> someone hacked into my paypal account.  not sure how it happened since i don't open any email from paypal.  i just check messages on it's site.
[06:33] <Hawkwind> flaccid: There are many software exploits out there for linux.  For example, phpBB is full of them.
[06:34] <flaccid> Hawkwind: what does that have to do with a router firewall?
[06:34] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I've had my main website hacked due to phpBB before, and it runs Linux
[06:34] <flaccid> Hawkwind: that has nothing to do with a firewall...
[06:34] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Anything can be bypassed man.  Nothing is perfect
[06:34] <flaccid> thats an exploit
[06:34] <flaccid> yes but its not the firewalls fault or problem
[06:34] <Hawkwind> flaccid: The system runs a firewall.  Just because you have a firewall means nothing
[06:34] <flaccid> its an proof of concept hack fo phpbb
[06:34] <larson9999> Hawkwind: that's because you're not using a firewall?  :)
[06:35] <flaccid> firewalls are port based......
[06:35] <Hawkwind> larson9999: This is on a professionally hosted website :P
[06:35] <Hawkwind> flaccid: So you're saying a firewall can't be bypassed by anyone in any form ?
[06:35] <larson9999> let's see.  use a firewall and then open all the ports so you can share your pr0n
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Xanith: Are you using sessions?
[06:35] <Xanith> umm i have no clue?
[06:35] <larson9999> the swiss firewall
[06:35] <Kiongku> lol larson9999
[06:35] <flaccid> Hawkwind: no i'm saying that router firewalls work. you are citing exploits in software, not the disability of a firewall
[06:35] <Xanith> lol i'm sorta a n00b to linux
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Xanith: Alright when you logout and log backin are the programs that you had open still running?
[06:36] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I never said they did *not* work.  I said they aren't perfect and they can be bypassed by the right person
[06:36] <Xanith> yes
[06:36] <flaccid> Hawkwind: yes but this example is not bypassing at all. the firewall allows port 80....
[06:36] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I own a router or 5, and use them and they all have firewalls.  That doesn't mean someone out there isn't smart enough to get around it if they really wanted
[06:37] <flaccid> but they are not getting around it
[06:37] <larson9999> i hate having to try to be secure.  why can't people just play nice?
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Xanith: Ok so that's not what you were talking about?
[06:37] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I wasn't saying the phpBB was bypassing the firewall.  I was trying to show you how nothing is perfect
[06:37] <Xanith> well the last thing i asked was how to get like mp3's to open in xmms by default
[06:37] <Hawkwind> The point is, a computer system is only as safe as *you* make it.  Not what you rely on others to do
[06:37] <flaccid> you just said That doesn't mean someone out there isn't smart enough to get around it if they really wanted
[06:37] <Hawkwind> !mp3
[06:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: What's that for?
[06:38] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I thought he needed mp3 information but I read wrong :P
[06:38] <Kiongku> keep constant backup and nobody will cry
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Kiongku: LIke Visa or AOL :)
[06:39] <Kiongku> Visa? credit card?
[06:39] <flaccid> Hawkwind: just don't leed people on to think that a firewall is something more than port-based filtering
[06:39] <flaccid> :)
[06:39] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I never did
[06:39] <Hawkwind> I never once said it was anything different
[06:39] <flaccid> you said bypass and get around many a time...
[06:40] <Hawkwind> The point I was making, which still stands true, nothing is impenetrable, period
[06:40] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Because you can
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Xanith: Why may I ask?
[06:40] <flaccid> but you are saying that you are bypassing the firewall. this is not true. the firewall is allowing.
[06:40] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i think it's a symantics thing here.  the question was how secure is connecting to the net without using a firewall(not a fool proof one).  i was just thinking that since most routers have them built in and if you're not using a router, software firewalls can be had for free.  so i'm thinking why wouldn't you have a firewall since they are basically free?
[06:40] <Xanith> umm because i like xmms?
[06:40] <flaccid> meh
[06:40] <Hawkwind> flaccid: You aren't listening.  Read up on the ways to get through a router and its firewall on the internet.  They all have ways of doing it in some sort of fashion
[06:41] <DaSkreech> Xanith: ok :)
[06:41] <Hawkwind> larson9999: I agree.  I never said you shouldn't have a firewall or a router.  Ya'll are misunderstanding the point
[06:41] <DaSkreech> Xanith: Konqueror -> Settings -> Konfigure Konqueror -> File associations -> Audio -> Etc etc
[06:41] <Hawkwind> He asked...how secure is it.  My answer was...it's as secure as *you* make it yourself.
[06:41] <Kiongku> Ah screw it ppl :p we love the net we stay on net.. just accept among the millions of pc. if u get hit.. u got bad luck
[06:42] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i got the point.  just because you have a firewall doesn't mean you're secure.
[06:42] <Xanith> thanks
[06:42] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Exactly
[06:42] <Hawkwind> That was my entire point all along
[06:43] <MarcC> how can I make it so double-clicking a .deb allows me to install it?
[06:43] <MarcC> right now it pulls up some sort of package examiner
[06:43] <Hawkwind> Just because you have a router doesn't mean you're perfectly secure either
[06:43] <DaSkreech> MarcC: Right Click -> install package
[06:43] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i got stopped before that because i'm thinking if someone is worried about security why would he not use a firewall :)
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Not sure about the Double Click though you should be able to do it
[06:43] <Kiongku> i heard router firewall are stronger than software based one
[06:43] <MarcC> DaSkreech: I don't have that option on my RMB menu
[06:44] <DaSkreech> RMB?
[06:44] <MarcC> I wonder if I need to install something?
[06:44] <MarcC> Right Mouse Button
[06:44] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Not necessarily always true.  They can be, but depends on how they are made and who makes them
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Woah thats Fancy :)
[06:44] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: heheh :p
[06:44] <MarcC> is there a name for the .deb installer app with a gui?
[06:45] <Hawkwind> MarcC: Adept
[06:45] <flaccid> peace Hawkwind
[06:45] <Hawkwind> flaccid: You're sending me a piece of strawberry cake :P
[06:45] <MarcC> Hawkwind: sorry, I mean the one that usually comes up if you right-click a .deb file and choose to install it?
[06:46] <MarcC> Adept is just like Synaptic, right?
[06:46] <flaccid> i am?
[06:46] <Hawkwind> MarcC: Oh, no idea.  I use the CLI for all package management stuff.  It just....works
[06:46] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I was hoping :P
[06:46] <Hawkwind> You said peace....I was making a joke :)
[06:46] <flaccid> hehe
[06:46] <MarcC> Hawkwind: if only my wife thought so... ;)
[06:46] <flaccid> i ate all the cake coz i'm a fat *&&*#$
[06:46] <Xanith> how come adept doesn't have like as much stuff as gentoo's portage does?
[06:46] <Hawkwind> MarcC: Teach her correctly and she will :)
[06:47] <Hawkwind> Xanith: It does if you have all the repos enabled
[06:47] <MarcC> ok, does anybody know what this GUI .deb installer app is?
[06:47] <Xanith> well like i tried finding TuxRacer and it doesn't have it
[06:47] <Xanith> and it doesn't have the newest Opera
[06:47] <Jucato> Xanith: afaik, TuxRacer has been replaced by Planet Penguin Racer
[06:48] <Hawkwind> !info tuxracer
[06:48] <Jucato> and Opera (not the latest, though) is available from the Ubuntu commercial repos
[06:48] <MarcC> Xanith: TuxRacer has been renamed hasn't it?
[06:48] <ubotu> Package tuxracer does not exist in any distro I know
[06:48] <larson9999> tux racer has been ppracer for years
[06:48] <Hawkwind> !info ppcracer
[06:48] <ubotu> Package ppcracer does not exist in any distro I know
[06:48] <Jucato> !planetpenguin-racer
[06:48] <Hawkwind> !info ppracer
[06:48] <ubotu> planetpenguin-racer: another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 242 kB, installed size 700 kB
[06:48] <ubotu> Package ppracer does not exist in any distro I know
[06:48] <Hawkwind> Bahhhhhhhhh
[06:48] <Xanith> haha... u can tell i haven't used linux in a while
[06:48] <Jucato> Hawkwind: mine was right :P
[06:48] <MarcC> it's like supertux or something
[06:48] <Xanith> last time i used it it was tuxracer
[06:48] <Hawkwind> !info opera
[06:48] <ubotu> opera: The Opera Web Browser. In component non-free, is optional. Version 9.00-20060616.7 (dapper-commercial), package size 5415 kB, installed size 12376 kB (Only available for i386)
[06:48] <larson9999> supertux is a super mario clone
[06:49] <MarcC> ok, so they're both available
[06:49] <Xanith> so i need to enable all repos?
[06:49] <Jucato> Xanith: not all
[06:49] <Xanith> which ones then?
[06:49] <Jucato> for ppracer, just the universe repo
[06:49] <Jucato> !opera
[06:49] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[06:49] <Xanith> what about opera? because i want to install it
[06:49] <Hawkwind> You need the non-free repo for Opera though
[06:49] <Jucato> ^^^^^^^
[06:50] <larson9999> i think they went to the spelled out version of planet penquin racer because ppracer was deemed lewd
[06:50] <Kiongku> why does ubotu say only as in price?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> The price is $0
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> but its not GPL's
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> but its not GPL'ed
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Free as in Beer, Vs Free as in Speech.
[06:51] <Jucato> Kiongku: because it's not "free as in freedom/speech"
[06:51] <Kiongku> lol
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> and not Free as in "Love" :)
[06:53] <Kiongku> o0
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Wonder when that Opera Browser is going to get released for the Nintindo DS.
[06:53] <Kiongku> lol
[06:53] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: I thought it was already available, but not built-in
[06:53] <Xanith> what about the game racer?
[06:53] <Kiongku> nintendo ds?...
[06:54] <flaccid> i heard it was too
[06:54] <Jucato> Xanith: TuxRacer exists no more
[06:54] <Xanith> nooo Racer...
[06:54] <Jucato> It's PlanetPenguin-Racer now
[06:54] <Xanith> grr =\
[06:54] <Xanith> people don't listen...
[06:54] <Xanith> Racer is a free car simluation game
[06:54] <humble> hey folks... i hosed my kubuntu dapper system trying to upgrade to edgy knot3... can anyone help me recover?
[06:54] <larson9999> racer is another game.
[06:54] <Xanith> Google > Racer (1st link)
[06:55] <larson9999> SuperTuxKart
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Dr_Willis: Free Love is giving out?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  for the Handled DS..  i think its due out on a Cartridge in a month or so.. the new "WII" will have it built in i guess
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> humble,  heh - i just upgraded..no hassles.. so far
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> other then the gnome theme packatges being mad.
[06:56] <Jucato> Description: another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin PlanetPenguin Racer, or ppracer as it is called for short, is a simple OpenGL racing game featuring Tux, the Linux mascot. The  goal of the game is to slide down a snow- and ice-covered mountain as quickly as possible, avoiding the trees and rocks that will slow you down.
[06:56] <Lamington> hey all
[06:56] <Xanith> would you get off the PlanetPenguin Racer... That's not the game i'm referring to
[06:56] <Kiongku> hey guys
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> I sort of like SLUNE
[06:57] <Xanith> The game is called Racer - A free car simulation game...
[06:57] <humble> i changed all my apt sources to edgy and did a couple of apt-update - apt-upgrade - apt-dist-upgrade...
[06:57] <Xanith> Google > Racer (1st Link)
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> xmoto is getting me annoyed however. :)
[06:57] <Kiongku> in grub.. how do u read the entry number for the differsnt os
[06:57] <larson9999> Xanith: so what about racer?
[06:57] <Xanith> is it on adept?
[06:57] <Jucato> Xanith: ah ok. A while ago you were asking about tuxracer
[06:57] <Lamington> I've just tried to set up a jabber googletalk account in kopete... but its not working... got a good link anyone ?
[06:57] <humble> but when i re-booted... nade... says loading linux kernel and then hangs
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Kiongku,  grub starts counting at  0 (zero) rember that. :P
[06:57] <Kiongku> i know
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Kiongku,  and the description lines also count.
[06:57] <Kiongku> how do i count -_-"?
[06:58] <Kiongku> i count the lines?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> You wanting to boot to windows by default?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> or what are ya want ing to do?
[06:58] <Hawkwind> humble: Why where you upgrading to edgy in the first place since it's not stable nor released as final yet ?
[06:58] <humble> to help out with bug reports
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> leetness points
[06:58] <Kiongku> thats what LKC wants..
[06:59] <Hawkwind> Heh.  vmware is free :)
[06:59] <Kiongku> Dr_Willis: or is it better use savedefault?
[06:59] <Hawkwind> humble: I honestly don't know how to help you revert from an edgy install back to a working system unfortunately
[06:59] <Lamington> good work humble
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> Kiongku,  easiest way i found to do it - was uncomment the  example windows grub entry/stanza thats above the magickernel 'lines'  - that way you got windows first..  in position 0
[06:59] <Jucato> Lamington: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support
[07:00] <Lamington> thanks Jucato
[07:00] <Hawkwind> Lamington: There is also a step by step on the google talk home page for that
[07:00] <Kiongku> !pastebin
[07:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:00] <Jucato> Hawkwind: that kde wiki is also step by step :P
[07:01] <Jucato> Hawkwind: hm... shouldn't you be asleep? :D
[07:01] <Lamington> Hawkwind: I dont think it covers Kopete though... but the KDE wiki page Jucato posted is fine :)
[07:01] <Lamington> oh well what do you know
[07:01] <Lamington> I did everything right
[07:01] <Lamington> I just have to restart kopete :P
[07:02] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Probably soon.  Helping Liz pack and all for her trip to Vegas tomorrow
[07:02] <Jucato> Hawkwind: ah yes. the vegas trip
[07:02] <larson9999> Hawkwind: you're helping her pack by chatting?
[07:02] <larson9999> that's how i help my wife cook
[07:03] <Hawkwind> larson9999: I'm helping her by staying out of the way :P
[07:03] <larson9999> lol
[07:03] <Jucato> lol
[07:03] <larson9999> i need to get to bed so i'm well rested for my interview.  need to go back to work
[07:05] <warpzone> question, do GTK apps typically cause problems in KDE? both firefox and azureus seem to hang frozen at random intervals for short periods of time
[07:05] <Lamington> hmm still not connecting
[07:06] <Lamington> There was a connection error: Operation is not supported.
[07:06] <Lamington> What might that be ?
[07:06] <shogran> what ya trying ta do lamington?
[07:06] <Lamington> connect to googletalk with kopete
[07:06] <shogran> ok no clue sorry lol
[07:07] <Lamington> I dunno whats wrong
[07:07] <shogran> hmmm..
[07:07] <Jucato> you did install qca-tls package?
[07:08] <Jucato> or check if it was installed
[07:08] <Lamington> qca-tls is installed in kubuntu by default
[07:08] <Lamington> yes, I checked also
[07:08] <Lamington> so... I'm scratching my head
[07:09] <shogran>  kubuntu? i think im in the wrong room.. i have just regular old ubuntu
[07:09] <Jucato> yeah...
[07:09] <Jucato> shogran: you might be in the wrong room. this is #kubuntu :P
[07:09] <shogran> k
[07:09] <shogran> thankx
[07:10] <Lamington> he's using konversation
[07:10] <Lamington> :P
[07:10] <Jucato> ah no wonder
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> Im using FrankeUbuntu!
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> a monster mix up of bits and parts.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:11] <Lamington> my jabber icon pulsates for a while and then I get the error message
[07:11] <Jucato> Lamington: really strange, as I'm connected to Google Talk right now
[07:11] <Kiongku> ?
[07:11] <Kiongku> why Franke :p
[07:11] <Lamington> Jucato: I only just registered a new gmail account a short while ago... perhaps it will work later
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> Frankenstein!
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:12] <Kiongku> loli..
[07:12] <Jucato> Lamington: err.. probably?
[07:12] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: heh :P
[07:12] <Lamington> ah there it goes again
[07:12] <Kiongku> Lamington: >
[07:12] <Lamington> There was a connection error: Operation is not supported.
[07:12] <Kiongku> Lamington: hmm did u try enter gmail via webapge?
[07:12] <Kiongku> *page
[07:12] <Lamington> yes
[07:14] <Kiongku> Lamington: did u check in options if POP has been enabled..
[07:14] <Lamington> oh maybe I need to set it up as a "new" account in kopete... I didn't do that
[07:14] <Jucato> Kiongku: POP? for Google Talk?
[07:14] <Lamington> oh
[07:14] <Lamington> just a sec
[07:14] <Xanith> another thing about adept, there was things like xmms-themes and gkrellm-themes in gentoo portage, are those in adept?
[07:14] <Hawkwind> Xanith: No
[07:14] <Kiongku> Jucato: not necessarily..
[07:14] <Jucato> xmms-skins
[07:15] <Hawkwind> Xanith: You can get all 191 gkrellm themes though from the gkrellm site
[07:15] <Xanith> where is the gkrellm installation folder?
[07:16] <Jucato> Xanith: once you've enabled the universe repos, you can search in Adept for the packages, use keywords like "xmms" or "themes"
[07:16] <Jucato> Xanith: if I'm not mistaken, /home/username/.gkrellm
[07:16] <Hawkwind> Xanith: If you are looking for where the themes would be, ~/.gkrellm2
[07:17] <Lamington> hmm
[07:17] <Lamington> It still doesn't seem to want to connect
[07:17] <Hawkwind> s/Wonders/Wanders
[07:17] <Xanith> thanks
[07:17] <Jucato> Hawkwind: have a nice sleep :)
[07:17] <Kiongku> Lamington: are the settings correctly adjusted >>?
[07:17] <Jucato> Hawkwind: and don't stumble when you wake up :P
[07:17] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Thanks.  See ya in a few hours
[07:17] <Kiongku> !jabber
[07:17] <ubotu> jabber is a free and open source instant messaging protocol, like MSN and AIM. Supporting clients on Linux: Kopete (KDE), Gaim (GNOME). For more info see http://www.jabber.org
[07:18] <Lamington> Kiongku: everything appears to be in order
[07:18] <Jucato> Hawkwind: maybe you will, maybe you won't :P
[07:18] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Nah.  I get to sleep in a bit tomorrow since Liz is home and will get up with Daniel to get him off to school :)
[07:18] <Kiongku> Lamington: actually what are u trying to do..?
[07:18] <Lamington> Kiongku: connect :P (jabber/googletalk, with my new account)
[07:18] <Jucato> Kiongku: he's trying to connect to Google Talk using Kopete/Jabber
[07:19] <pierreth> my Amarok does not work
[07:19] <Jucato> pierreth: please explain?
[07:19] <Lamington> pierreth: oh no !
[07:19] <Kiongku> Jucato: not sure how it will work
[07:19] <larson9999> errr, take away law enforcement and you'd find all sorts of dead people popping up.  cheating spouses of all colors comes to mind
[07:19] <Jucato> Kiongku: it works. I'm using it
[07:19] <pierreth> i will paste bin
[07:19] <Jucato> pierreth: what format are you trying to play?
[07:19] <Lamington> It should work, I've used it before... but for some reason its not working right now
[07:19] <Jucato> probably a connection problem?
[07:20] <larson9999> good night
[07:20] <Jucato> bye larson9999
[07:20] <Kiongku> Lamington: darn.. there's always some reason when something mess up :p
[07:20] <Lamington> Jucato: possibly
[07:20] <Lamington> I have a strange feeling that if I reboot and reset my modem... all will be well...
[07:20] <Kiongku> try... who knows
[07:20] <Lamington> brb
[07:20] <Jucato> Lamington: couldn't you just reset your modem?
[07:21] <Kiongku> i wonder if i mess up grub will my pc crash..
[07:21] <Lamington> Jucato: yeah, I'll try that first
[07:21] <pierreth> here is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23950
[07:21] <Jucato> in Linux, reboot isn't always the answer :P
[07:21] <pierreth> I cannot start it
[07:22] <Jucato> pierreth: have you been able to start Amarok before?
[07:22] <pierreth> Jucato: I already made a reboot
[07:22] <Kiongku> pierreth: try delete ur database?
[07:22] <royal> hi all
[07:22] <pierreth> Jucato: I don't remember
[07:22] <Jucato> ok.. that makes things a bit more difficult :)
[07:23] <Kiongku> lol
[07:23] <Kiongku> ya
[07:23] <pierreth> Kiongku: How can I delete the database?
[07:23] <royal> lol you know what I think I ran out of things to do on my linux build :P
[07:23] <pierreth> Jucato: I have just enebled the sound
[07:23] <Jucato> royal: xgl?
[07:23] <Lamington|away> oh guess what
[07:23] <pierreth> alsa
[07:23] <Lamington|away> silly me
[07:24] <royal> XGL? what do you mean?
[07:24] <Lamington|away> I had to change my firewall settings to allow jabber :P
[07:24] <Kiongku> ehrm seems another thing then..
[07:24] <Lamington|away> D'oh !
[07:24] <Kiongku> go go Jucato.. @_@
[07:24] <Jucato> royal: have you tried XGL? you said you ran out of things to do :P
[07:24] <pierreth> Kiongku: How can I delete the db?
[07:24] <royal> no what is it?
[07:24] <Jucato> !xgl
[07:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:24] <Kiongku> i thought it may be was the db.. but then u said u only activated alsa..
[07:25] <Xanith> is there like a command to extract all tar.gz files in a folder?
[07:25] <Lamington|away> Its all good folks... just had to update firewall config :P
[07:25] <Jucato> Xanith: tar xvzf <.tar.gz file>
[07:25] <Jucato> or use Ark if you prefer GUI
[07:25] <Xanith> well there's 191 themes...
[07:25] <Xanith> i dont want to type that command 191 times
[07:25] <warpzone> Xanith: have you tried tar -xvvzf *.gz
[07:25] <royal> eh no I don't think I could do that (no programing knoledge)
[07:26] <warpzone> i dont know if that would work though
[07:26] <Xanith> oh yea i forgot about that... let me try that
[07:26] <pierreth> warpzone: this will not work
[07:26] <Jucato> royal: it doesn't need programming... (but I'm not familiar with it)
[07:26] <Kiongku> why double v
[07:26] <warpzone> ooops nvm shot down
[07:26] <warpzone> Kiongku: um, more verbose than verbose? :-P
[07:26] <Kiongku> haha
[07:26] <royal> the only thinks I have yetto fix on it are problems I've been over before and cant fix... one is wine related so I'll skip that. second is how to get YTMND mp3's to play on Konquerer or Firefox
[07:27] <pierreth> ll | grep .gz | xargs tar xvfz
[07:27] <Kiongku> pierreth: it u want to try delete the db i think u can find it at ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok
[07:27] <royal> I got flash, I got the MP3 fix, so I'm stumped there
[07:27] <Kiongku> collection.db or something may be
[07:27] <pierreth> well ls -al because ll is an alias of mine
[07:27] <warpzone> pierreth: whoa want to explain that command to me?
[07:27] <Xanith> warpzone: that doesn't work...
[07:28] <Kiongku> YTMND?
[07:28] <Jucato> Xanith: why not just right-click on the .tar.gz and choose Extract Here?
[07:28] <royal> www.YTMND.COM
[07:28] <Xanith> it doesn't have the extract here option in the menu
[07:28] <pierreth> i mean ls -al | grep .gz | xargs tar xvfz
[07:28] <Xanith> i have to open ark for each one and extract it...
[07:28] <royal> that site that has images and plays sound over it
[07:28] <pierreth> ls -al gives the list of the directory
[07:29] <Kiongku> royal: basically a streaming website?
[07:29] <royal> yeah
[07:29] <warpzone> pierreth: what is xargs?
[07:29] <Jucato> Xanith: why do you have to open Ark? there's a right-click menu to "Extract Here:
[07:29] <Xanith> like i just said... it's not there
[07:29] <pierreth> warpzone: it gives the output as first argument
[07:30] <warpzone> pierreth: and it will repeat the command for each line of output?
[07:30] <pierreth> warpzone: put it will not work
[07:30] <Jucato> Xanith: right-Click > Extract > Extract Here is missing?
[07:30] <warpzone> pierreth: oh :(((
[07:30] <Papandapulo_> plz help for Linux?
[07:30] <Papandapulo_> plz help for Linux?
[07:30] <Xanith> yea its not there at all
[07:30] <pierreth> warpzone: sorry, i have to think again
[07:30] <Jucato> hm... that's strange
[07:31] <warpzone> pierreth: no prob, still handy to know though, thanks
[07:32] <spaci76> moin@ll
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> I download Player but I dont instal
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> I download Player but I dont instal
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> I download Player but I dont instal
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> I download Player but I dont instal
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> I download Player but I dont instal
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> I download Player but I dont instal
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> I download Player but I dont instal
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> I download Player but I dont instal
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> wow
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> plz help for Linux?
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> plz help for Linux?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> you really expect help now?
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> plz
[07:33] <Jucato> !ask
[07:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:33] <pierreth> warpzone: do you have spaces in your files?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> #1 you dident ask a real question., so no one knows what you are talking about.. and i imagine MOST people have you on IGNORE now.
[07:33] <Kiongku> !spam
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <Kiongku> xD
[07:33] <royal> !Winning at life
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Winning at life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <osiris> knock it off
[07:33] <royal> now THERES a funny one for you
[07:34] <pierreth> warpzone: ?
[07:34] <Kiongku> hmm.
[07:34] <warpzone> pierreth: oh no this wasn't for me, I'm just curious to see if it can be done
[07:34] <plugs> what's the difference between flashplugin-nonfree and libflash-mozplugin?
[07:34] <pierreth> warpzone: do you have spaces in the names of the files?
[07:35] <warpzone> pierreth: nah
[07:35] <Jucato> plugs: libflash-mozplugin doesn't work anymore, afaik
[07:36] <pierreth> warpzone: ls | grep .gz xargs -d \  tar xvfz
[07:36] <pierreth> warpzone: i am not sure
[07:38] <warpzone> pierreth: its cool, I will experiement around with the command and see what happens
[07:38] <Lamington|away> gtg later all
[07:38] <osiris> can someone point me to a fstab primer ? i need to add a fat32 partition with read/write to it
[07:38] <pierreth> warpzone: I see an error again :-(
[07:38] <Lamington|away> ooh is anyone interested in E17 ? I have sources here :D
[07:38] <osiris> im running E17 now
[07:39] <Lamington|away> nice :)
[07:39] <osiris> from cvs
[07:39] <warpzone> osiris: um, the unofficial starter guide has instructions to mounting a fat32 partition
[07:39] <nalioth> you guys should ask users what language they speak, and guide them to the appropriate #ubuntu-[language]  channel
[07:39] <warpzone> osiris: i dont know about any of the official web pages
[07:39] <Lamington|away> I've got sources you can add to your sources.list
[07:39] <osiris> Lamington|away, nope.  im cvs
[07:39] <plugs> what's the current flashplugin version and how do i get the current version?
[07:40] <pierreth> warpzone: ls | xargs -d \  echo | grep .gz | tar xvfz
[07:40] <Lamington|away> osiris: I know, it was a general comment
[07:40] <Jucato> nalioth: huh?
[07:40] <Lamington|away> gtg
[07:40] <warpzone> plugs: i would check the ubuntu wiki under restricted formats, it has the instructions for installing as well as enabling sound
[07:40] <warpzone> plugs: I can link you if you'd like
[07:40] <plugs> warpzone please do =]
[07:40] <Jucato> !flashplugin-nonfree
[07:40] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:41] <Jucato> !flash
[07:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:41] <pierreth> warpzone: I think the last one is OK
[07:41] <DHGE> anyone force-installed flash on amd64? acroreader works for me ...
[07:41] <warpzone> plugs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:42] <warpzone> pierreth: thanks! I'm going to sit down and study that command :-P
[07:43] <pierreth> warpzone: you should read about shell programming
[07:44] <warpzone> pierreth: I started doing that yesterday :-P any recommended sites?
[07:44] <pierreth> warpzone: I really like this one: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[07:46] <warpzone> pierreth: thanks a bunch man
[07:46] <Jucato> grr.. thunder/lightning..
[07:46] <Jucato> have to switch off..
[07:46] <Jucato> :(
[07:46] <pierreth> warpzone: no prob
[07:47] <pierreth> so I can I delete the database?
[07:47] <pierreth> so how can I delete the database?
[07:48] <warpzone> pierreth: thats beyond me :(
[07:51] <plugs> so is there a way to view a website that requires flash 8?
[07:52] <beermunk> so why can I setup pptp vpn to my work and lose my internet, not be able to ping anything on the vpn but not lose connection on irc?  weird?
[07:52] <noiesmo> plugs, I installed firefox for windows using wine and then added flash
[07:52] <warpzone> plugs: not any standard way, nope. but flash9-beta for linux should be out very soon
[07:53] <warpzone> or yeah, the ff + wine thing
[07:53] <noiesmo> warpzone, anyidea when its due
[07:53] <plugs> windows firefox works with wine though? okay
[07:53] <plugs> i'll try that out
[07:53] <warpzone> noiesmo: not a clue. very soon though, i know some people already have it working, just not the layman
[07:54] <noiesmo> warpzone, cool
[07:54] <noiesmo> plugs, yeah no hassles
[07:54] <noiesmo> plugs, install firefox then go to site that needs flash and install that way
[07:55] <noiesmo> plugs, i do find a bit of lag in the flash but a mate say similar to windows
[07:55] <plugs> okay good plan. i'll try in a minute
[08:01] <Ashex> for those that don't read digg: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=174
[08:04] <warpzone> haha awesome
[08:11] <Samuli^> http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2915
[08:11] <Samuli^> lol
[08:12] <Samuli^> the linux-video looks like someone with adhd made it :D
[08:18] <plugs> I just installed firefox in wine, how do i run it?
[08:20] <MuJ> firefox in wine.. winefox? =P
[08:20] <noiesmo> plugs, try wine "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
[08:20] <noiesmo> plugs, i have a desktop shortcut it also list a working director as "/home/noiesmo/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/Mozilla Firefox"
[08:23] <noiesmo> plugs, mine put short cut on desktop and entry in menu with wine programs etc
[08:24] <plugs> right, that'll probly happen on restart
[08:24] <serishema> when trying to set up nfs file sharing i can't share or mount anything on one machine and the problem seems to be nfs statd failing to start
[08:24] <serishema> any ideas?
[08:36] <nagyv> hello! I would like to watch some videos from the net, but kaffeine always says that it "could not load any sound drivers" (or something similar). Before it worked well, I don't know what happened.
[09:06] <zezelle> bonjour
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> zezelle, sup
[09:07] <zezelle> ok salut
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> !fr
[09:10] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> je parle un peux de franncaise mais je vais sortir pour un peut
[09:11] <zezelle> Admiral_Chicago:  comment
[09:11] <zezelle> je besoir d-aide
[09:12] <fdoving> !info hwdb-client-kde
[09:12] <ubotu> Package hwdb-client-kde does not exist in any distro I know
[09:13] <fdoving> !info hwdb-client-kde edgy
[09:13] <ubotu> hwdb-client-kde: KDE client program for the Ubuntu Hardware Database. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 304 kB, installed size 464 kB
[09:13] <fdoving> !info hwdb-client-gnome
[09:13] <ubotu> Package hwdb-client-gnome does not exist in any distro I know
[09:14] <zezelle> zerofool2005:  salut
[09:14] <zerofool2005> hello
[09:15] <zezelle> zerofool2005:  you french
[09:15] <zerofool2005> English
[09:15] <zezelle> ok sir
[09:15] <zezelle> me name is claude
[09:16] <zerofool2005> Hi claude
[09:16] <zezelle> Ze Iam fench
[09:16] <zezelle> zerofool2005:  Iam french
[09:16] <zerofool2005> cool
[09:17] <zerofool2005> Used to do french in school
[09:17] <zezelle> you ave linux
[09:17] <zezelle> ree
[09:17] <zezelle> have
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> zezelle, PM me
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> zezelle, tu me peux parle en #ubuntu-chicago s'il te plait
[09:18] <zezelle> Admiral_Chicago:  quoi
[09:19] <zezelle> Admiral_Chicago:  you french
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> donne moi 20 minutes
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> zezelle, non, mais je l'etudies en lycee
[09:19] <zezelle> Admiral_Chicago:  ok
[09:20] <zerofool2005> Better go get changed for school
[09:21] <zezelle> zerofool2005|a:  ok good working
[09:22] <zerofool2005|a> Does kubuntu have a rar extractor?
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> zerofool2005|a, yes unrar-nonfree
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc
[09:22] <zezelle> zerofool2005|a:  you come  leter
[09:23] <zerofool2005|a> yup
[09:25] <plugs> Does any version of MSN Messenger work in wine?
[09:30] <Netslayer> plugs, use gaim/kopete/gnome equiv ... dunno about wine with msn
[09:31] <plugs> yeah i use kopete
[09:32] <Steven_M> where are the kdm session types stored?
[09:33] <zezelle> Steven_M: salut
[09:40] <ben__> anyone here use opera?
[09:41] <pierreth> ben__: i used it
[09:41] <ben__> i need some help with networking, i can't load any internet pages in opera, its acting like its offline
[09:42] <ben__> i think its a problem with kubuntu not opera, although konqueror works fine
[09:42] <pierreth> does another browser works
[09:42] <pierreth> ok
[09:42] <harry> hi everybody,    a question: how can i generate some free space in my hd?   when i update my OS; the installation files are keeped? or erased after installation??
[09:42] <harry> with adept updater...
[09:43] <pierreth> harry: use du
[09:43] <harry> #pierreth, i have no idea, its my first day in linux...
[09:44] <ben__> pierreth: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=158776
[09:44] <pierreth> ben__: i think there is a switch to pass from offline to on line in Opera
[09:44] <pierreth> harry: do you know how to use the command line
[09:44] <ben__> hmmm never seen it in the windows version nor the mac one
[09:44] <harry> #pierreth, more less
[09:45] <harry> #pierreth, i've been reading all day
[09:45] <Infecto> hmmm
[09:45] <pierreth> type du in the command line
[09:45] <pierreth> harry
[09:46] <harry> #pierreth, it would be something like  >sudo du   ??
[09:46] <Infecto> no need sudo
[09:46] <harry> #Infecto, thanks   let me try
[09:46] <pierreth> harry: du is enough
[09:47] <pierreth> ben__: I don't know
[09:47] <sorush20> hi should I do dist-upgrade first or upgrade?
[09:47] <pierreth> ben__: start opera from the command line
[09:47] <harry> #pierreth, wow that help was fast, i thoght i would be here for some hours
[09:47] <ben__> ok i couldnt find any offline/online switch in opera, are you confusing it with another web browser/file browser
[09:47] <harry> thanks to all
[09:48] <sorush20> hi should I do dist-upgrade first or upgrade?
[09:48] <fdoving> sorush20: update first, then upgrade or dist-upgrade
[09:48] <sorush20> but when you do the upgrade ubuntu says reboot..
[09:48] <pierreth> harry: you understand what du does?
[09:48] <pierreth> ben__: may be...
[09:49] <harry> #pierreth, erase installation files of the updateing service??  that's what i read about it...
[09:49] <fdoving> harry: update-files are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/ you can remove them with 'sudo apt-get clean' from the commandline.
[09:50] <harry> so what does du makes?
[09:50] <pierreth> harry: it is disk usage, it helps find big folders
[09:50] <ben__> so how would i start opera from the command line?
[09:50] <fdoving> du only tells you how much space a certain directory/file occupies.
[09:51] <fdoving> ben__: 'opera'
[09:51] <pierreth> ben__: opera
[09:51] <ben__> ;) ok
[09:51] <pierreth> lol
[09:51] <harry> :) thanks
[09:52] <ben__> some errors came up
[09:52] <ben__> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[09:52] <ben__>   Major opcode:  144
[09:52] <ben__>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:52] <ben__>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:52] <ben__> Failed to open device
[09:52] <pierreth> ben__: it is OK
[09:52] <pierreth> ben__: normal errors
[09:52] <ben__> and this one
[09:52] <ben__> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[09:52] <ben__>   Major opcode:  144
[09:52] <ben__>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:52] <ben__>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:52] <ben__> Failed to open device
[09:52] <ben__> shit sorry
[09:52] <ben__> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[09:52] <pierreth> ben__: it still normal
[09:53] <pierreth> ben__: OK, this is may the problem
[09:53] <ben__> it needs a package?
[09:54] <pierreth> ben__: I don't know, make a search for ld.so in your installer
[09:56] <sorush20> anyone here tried kde4?
[09:57] <fdoving> it's not ready for end-users yet. :
[09:57] <sorush20> well that i was I was asking about..
[09:58] <sorush20> If it was I would have tried it already.. but have you tried it as a developer etc?
[09:58] <fdoving> no.
[10:01] <sorush20> when edgy comes out in october will dapper be obsolete ?
[10:02] <ben__> i hope they mave xgl with it
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> zezelle, still around?
[10:02] <DHGE> !LTS
[10:02] <ubotu> lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[10:03] <DHGE> ben__: Do you use amd64?
[10:04] <ben__> yea
[10:05] <ben__> but i am on 32bit kubuntu
[10:05] <Steven_M> zezelle: what do you mean by salut?
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Steven_M, thats french...
[10:07] <ben__> like i always do, i end up going back to windows because i can;t get anything to work without command line/downloading more shit
[10:07] <ben__> so bye
[10:07] <Steven_M> Admiral_Chicago: meaning?
[10:10] <Steven_M> where are the kdm session types stored in kubuntu?
[10:10] <noiesmo> /usr/share/xsessions
[10:10] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[10:12] <Steven_M> thanks noiesmo :)
[10:12] <noiesmo> Steven_M, np :)
[10:14] <Steven_M> is there any problem i can help you out with in return noiesmo?
[10:14] <noiesmo> Steven_M, just chillin
[10:14] <Steven_M> ok
[10:15] <thomas___> I keep getting this error on upgrading to edgy:
[10:15] <thomas___> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc', which is also in package gtk2-engines-clearlooks
[10:15] <thomas___> what's the dealio?
[10:15] <noiesmo> you'll need to set an override
[10:16] <thomas___> how?
[10:18] <noiesmo> not 100% but like sudo dpkg-divert --package packagename --divert /usr/share/themes/Clealooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc --rename /usr/share/themes/Clealooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.old
[10:18] <thomas___> :(
[10:18] <noiesmo> thomas__, its not 100% right
[10:19] <thomas___> is this wiki'd anywhere or forum'd anywhere you know of off the top of your head? I already poked around and couldn't find anything
[10:20] <noiesmo> thomas__, not that im sure off otherwise try remove gtk2-engines-clearlooks and then reinstall after adding your package
[10:21] <Hobbsee> noiesmo: usually sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/of/deb/deb.deb
[10:22] <noiesmo> Hobbsee, cool I didnt know that thought the dpkg-divert may have helped as no one else said anything
[10:22] <Hobbsee> it's cool
[10:22] <Hobbsee> just be careful with it :P
[10:23] <thomas___> :(
[10:23] <noiesmo> Hobbsee, maybe you can help thomas__ with his problem
[10:23] <noiesmo> :)
[10:24] <thomas___> In case you didn't catch it before, Hobbsee:
[10:24] <thomas___> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gtk2-engines_1%3a2.8.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[10:24] <thomas___>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc', which is also in package gtk2-engines-clearlooks
[10:24] <thomas___> urg, didn't know that would've overpasted
[10:24] <thomas___> sorry
[10:25] <Hobbsee> it's cool
[10:25] <maltron> Hi, I just installed amarok 1.43 (having added it to my apt sources list).  To do so I had to enble backports and now adept keeps asking me if I want to upgrad checkinstall.  My question is, if this is necessary, why isn't it automatic, and if not, what disadvantages does it bring?
[10:26] <maltron> One way or another I'd like to get rid of the notification!
[10:26] <thomas___> and I can't uninstall gtk2-engines-clearlooks cuz then it complains about dependancies as well
[10:26] <Hobbsee> use sudo apt-get remove --purge gtk2-engines-clearlooks then update again
[10:26] <douglas> hello, when my wife signs onto kde here space bar does not work. It works fine when I sign into my kde. What could be up??
[10:26] <Hobbsee> gtk2-engines-clearlooks doesnt exist in edgy
[10:27] <thomas___> it says taht gnome-themes and ubuntu-desktop have unmet dependencies
[10:27] <thomas___> should I ignore that?
[10:27] <Hobbsee> maltron: it may need to grab extra package
[10:27] <Hobbsee> thomas___: yeah, just for the minute.
[10:27] <Hobbsee> !info gtk2-engines-clearlooks edgy
[10:27] <ubotu> gtk2-engines-clearlooks: Clearlooks GTK+ 2.x engine and theme (dummy package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.8.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 57 kB, installed size 112 kB
[10:28] <Hobbsee> !info gtk2-engines edgy
[10:28] <ubotu> gtk2-engines: theme engines for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.8.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 310 kB, installed size 828 kB
[10:28] <maltron> Hobbsee: yeah, I'd say so, but I'm a little uncomfortable installing it if it isn't automatic - is it likely to be buggy or untested... why not just install itself if it's needed?
[10:29] <thomas___> Hobbsee: :( same problem
[10:29] <Hobbsee> maltron: should be okay
[10:29] <Hobbsee> thomas___: you couldnt use sudo apt-get remove gtk2-engines-clearlooks?
[10:29] <douglas> any ideas aout the making the keyboard work?
[10:29] <maltron> Hobbsee: thanks - I'll go ahead with it.  Are there generally any disadvantages from enabling backports?
[10:30] <Jucato> maltron: it would actually be scarier if stuff were installed/upgraded without your knowledge right? :)
[10:30] <Hobbsee> maltron: not really - the quality is the same as universe stuff
[10:30] <thomas___> nope, talks about how gnome-themes and ubuntu-desktop depends on  a few things
[10:30] <thomas___> gtk2-engines, gnome-orca, linux-headers
[10:30] <Jucato> hm.. disadvantages from backports... there's one. you get more choices :P
[10:30] <Nickay> hi
[10:30] <Hobbsee> thomas___: ignore them for a bit - remove the gtk2-engines-clearlooks first
[10:30] <Nickay> hi
[10:30] <thomas___> heh, that's what happens when I try to remove
[10:30] <douglas> hello, when my wife signs onto kde here space bar does not work. It works fine when I sign into my kde. What could be up??
[10:30] <Hobbsee> thomas___: after doing that, install ubuntu-desktop
[10:30] <Hobbsee> douglas: try moving her .kde/ and see if that changes anything?
[10:31] <Hobbsee> hi Nickay