[10:13] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: alive?
[10:13] <soee> hmm: https://plus.google.com/u/0/113355985619037607290/posts/MNbXTodNQTd
[10:14] <apachelogger> did I mention that no one actually SRUd my qapt fix?
[10:19] <Riddell> or your phonon update
[10:19]  * Riddell puts on the day's todo
[10:19] <kdeuser56> Riddell: got yesterday's pings?
[10:20] <kdeuser56> about the isos and virtualbox?
[10:21] <kdeuser56> soee: simple solution: use btrfs, snapshot you root filesystem before upgrading ... roll back if something goes wrong. nothing easier than that. besides that you can make apt-get do this automatically for you
[10:22] <soee> kdeuser56: its not my post :)
[10:22] <soee> though i think update to bugfixes versions on LTS shouldn't cause such problems
[10:22] <kdeuser56> soee: nobody knows what went wrong for him.
[10:23] <kdeuser56> does not mean others will suffer from that issue too
[10:24] <kdeuser56> soee: besides that he only says "updating". he did not specify how he updated, what ppas he had enabled etc.
[10:40] <kbroulik> any idea what happened to plasma 5 dbg packages in utopic? I cannot get a backtrace for any application, dr konqi shows useless backtraces and gdb says "the symbol file is truncated"
[10:44] <kdeuser56> kbroulik: do you have the ddebs repos enabled?
[10:44] <kbroulik> ddebs?
[10:44] <kdeuser56> kbroulik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[10:44] <kbroulik> i suppose not, thanks for the hint :)
[10:45] <kdeuser56> kbroulik: read the section "Debug Symbol Packages"
[10:45] <kbroulik> thx! will check once I'm home again :)
[10:47] <kdeuser56> kbroulik: after you enabled that repo you can install a debug packe for any application like this "apt-get install packagename-dbg*"
[10:48] <kdeuser56> kbroulik: do not worry about both the dbg and the dbgsym package being installed, one of them will only be a link, as dbgsym packages are empty if an own dbg packages exists and will simply only link to the dbg package
[10:49] <kbroulik> okay
[10:51] <kdeuser56> kbroulik: if you still want to debug a crash that happened, /var/crash will likely contain the dump files, if apport is enabled
[10:52] <kdeuser56> kbroulik: apport-retrace -s -R /var/crash/<path-of-crashed-app> will get you the backtrace
[10:56] <kdeuser56> kbroulik: wait, I suppose the ddebs repo wont help here, since the kf5 / plasma 5 stuff comes from the kubuntu ppa, if I am not mistaken, sorry I am still on Plasma 1 /kdelibs
[10:58] <kbroulik> yeah it's plasma 5
[11:01] <kdeuser56> kbroulik: if you are on utopic I suppose you are using this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next
[11:01] <kbroulik> yes
[11:03] <kdeuser56> kbroulik: are there -dbg package for that ppa?
[11:04] <kbroulik> in the list I dont see em but I have a kwin-dbg installed and given in 4 it's in kde-workspace it has to be 5 but no idea where it comes from and unfortunately I cannot check as in the office I'm also still on 4
[11:04] <kbroulik> [in the list behind the launchpad link you sent]
[11:06] <kdeuser56> kbroulik: that's the only thing I hate about *buntu: the debug package situation is simply a mess. ppas do not seem to create dbg packages automatically. dbgsym packages are a mess imho. etc. other distros handle this much better.
[11:17] <kdeuser56> kbroulik: since I cannot boot the iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/ in virtualbox I can not test
[11:18] <kdeuser56> kbroulik: I just tested the image from http://files.kde.org/snapshots/neon5-latest.iso.mirrorlist though: here the dbg packages are available
[11:21] <kbroulik> hmm, will have to test more properly then at home. maybe I just overlooked something
[11:21] <kdeuser56> kbroulik: so on that iso I would simply do: "for package in $(dpkg --get-selections | grep "project-neon5-"); do sudo apt-get install -y "$package"-dbg; done
[11:24] <kdeuser56> kbroulik: sorry, here: http://paste.kde.org/pcampr8bt
[11:43] <Riddell> apachelogger: logs show me no qapt fix from you, any pointers?
[11:47] <apachelogger> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=libqapt.git&a=commit&h=48ca41c210c30e75817d7559cdf8bad7ceab141c
[11:47] <apachelogger> Riddell: ^
[11:49] <apachelogger> [dragonplayer] [Bug 338349] New: i lost my Dragon's Player Sound completely and without touch anythink!!! When install Kaffeine have the same problem or the one player had sound and the other no!!! With other players style, VLC etc not a problem!!!
[11:49] <apachelogger> good lord
[12:21] <ScottK> Riddell: Are you dealing with kstars?
[12:21]  * ScottK had ENOTIME.
[12:21] <ScottK> has too
[13:04] <soee_> hmm, iv inserted CD with photos from my client to my laptops dvd drive, now it does not load/mounts and i can't open it to remove cd .. :D
[13:05] <Riddell> ScottK: didn't doko say that kstars tests had fixed itself but kactivities still needed fixed?
[13:05] <ScottK> Yes.
[13:05] <ScottK> I just wrote it backwards.
[13:05] <ScottK> The kactivities one is the ABI checker exploading.
[13:06] <Riddell> there's an abi checker?
[13:06] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:07] <ScottK> Yes. Done by Debian.
[13:38] <Riddell> apachelogger: what's a good test case for the libqapt issue?
[13:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: install qtcreator, remove qtcreator -> will not be installed as can be confirmed by apt-get remove qtcreator
[13:39] <apachelogger> eh
[13:39] <apachelogger> *will not be uninstalled xD
[13:43] <Riddell> apachelogger: it is uninstalled but the cache is complaining and apt -f install wants to reinstall it
[13:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: ah yes, it was removed, but since there was no dep resolution its deps/dependees were not so it is pulled in again to fix the package cache
[13:46] <Riddell> yep
[13:52] <Riddell> amichair:
[13:52] <Riddell> um, sorry
[13:53] <Riddell> apachelogger: bad news, the issue doesn't fix itself in my upload to utopic
[13:53] <Riddell>  2.2.0-0ubuntu2
[13:53] <Riddell> apachelogger: does it get fixed for you?
[14:09] <apachelogger> Riddell: yeah, that doesn't look right
[14:12] <Riddell> apachelogger: have I don't something wrong in the package?
[14:17] <apachelogger> god I hate this qtchooser shit
[14:17] <apachelogger> Riddell: I dunno yet
[14:18] <Riddell> :(
[14:18] <Riddell> apachelogger: got any test cases or obvious bugs you can put on bug 1358312 to help along phonon SRU?
[14:24] <apachelogger> Riddell: tomahawk + rtsmp stream = doesn't play
[14:24] <Riddell> hmm, what's one of those?
[14:24] <apachelogger> a web stream
[14:24] <apachelogger> really hard to test though I think
[14:24] <apachelogger> seeing as tomahawk is collection based xD
[14:24] <Riddell> rtmp?
[14:24] <apachelogger> Riddell: yeah that one
[14:25] <apachelogger> I could write a simple demo showing the issue but meh :P
[14:30] <apachelogger> the qapt thing is weird
[14:30] <apachelogger> if I build 2.2 manually from git it fixes the issue your upload doesn't Oo
[14:30] <apachelogger> and the other changes in 2.2 don't affect dep resolution in the slightest
[14:31] <apachelogger> argh
[14:31] <apachelogger> lol
[14:31] <apachelogger> what
[14:34] <apachelogger> Riddell: works for me
[14:34] <apachelogger> Riddell: easier way to test: use muon to remove
[14:34] <apachelogger> the package manager gui has additional resolution logic that prevents changes when the root helper reports failed resolution
[14:50] <Riddell> "The "qtcreator" package could not be marked for installation or upgrade:"
[14:50] <Riddell> apachelogger: is that what you get when trying to remove qtcreator in muon?
[14:58] <Riddell> yes new version seems to fix that
[15:14] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1358291 for your SRU love
[15:14] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1358312 also for your SRU love
[15:21] <Riddell> !testers | KDE SC 4.14 for trusty and utopic in ninjas
[15:36] <soee> kdeconnect works with plasma5 ?
[15:37] <Riddell> not really it's a kded4 module
[15:37] <Riddell> you need to compile the frameworks 5 branch
[15:37] <soee> :|
[15:40] <soee> brb
[16:54] <Riddell> as an experiment I put out a post on twitter/facebook for testers for 4.14 SC, if anyone arrives do point them in the direction of ninjas
[16:59] <Riddell> afiestas says about kscreen frameworks 5 "you should package it"
[16:59] <Riddell> as it's the most requested feature I think that sounds like good advice
[17:37] <Odur> Riddell: About the post on G+. What needs to be tested?
[17:39] <Odur> Latest is in Kubuntu Backports, right?
[17:40] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: yes, however taking the day off ...
[17:41] <shadeslayer_> my flight delayed by 5-6 hours
[17:44] <Mamarok> woah, from Amsterdam?
[17:44] <Mamarok> what are you flying?
[17:58] <shadeslayer_> Mamarok: Vueling
[18:01] <Mamarok> never heard of, do they have decent planes?
[18:02] <Mamarok> only Airbus as it seems, why is there such a big delay?
[18:07] <shadeslayer_> yes, I've always preffered Vueling
[18:08] <shadeslayer_> but this time they had a 4 hour delay
[18:08] <shadeslayer_> though
[18:08] <shadeslayer_> I do not know why
[18:08] <shadeslayer_> and they were decent enough to provide food vouchers themselves
[18:08] <shadeslayer_> without us asking for them
[18:08]  * shadeslayer_ sent a email to vueling asking for a refund, let see
[18:09] <Mamarok> I think they are legaly obliged to, after more than a certain number of hours of delay
[18:10] <shadeslayer_> yeah, lets see, the person I spoke to at the airport said that I could get compensated for 250 EUR
[18:12] <shadeslayer_> "Finally, court cases (see below) have established that a passenger experiencing a loss of time equivalent to three hours or more at the final destination is entitled to compensation as though his flight had been cancelled."
[18:12] <shadeslayer_> from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_261/2004#Delays
[18:14] <shadeslayer_> and I think AMS -> BCN is < 1500 KM
[18:15] <Mamarok> isn't it more?
[18:17] <shadeslayer_> https://www.google.es/flights/?hl=en&authuser=0#search;f=AMS;t=BCN;d=2014-09-03;r=2014-09-07
[18:17] <shadeslayer_> doesn't say
[18:19] <Mamarok> it's actually less, 1235.88 km
[18:19] <Mamarok> http://www.mapcrow.info/Distance_between_Amsterdam_NL_and_Barcelona_SP.html
[18:22] <shadeslayer_> right
[18:22] <shadeslayer_> so 250 is the max they can pay out I think
[18:22] <shadeslayer_> lets see
[18:23] <shadeslayer_> its > 1500 KM by road
[18:24] <shadeslayer_> my back
[18:24] <shadeslayer_> ahh
[18:24] <shadeslayer_> also
[18:24] <shadeslayer_> valorie: omg
[18:24] <shadeslayer_> valorie: omg
[18:24] <shadeslayer_> valorie: I finished the book
[18:25] <shadeslayer_> valorie: unanswered questions
[18:25] <shadeslayer_> halp
[18:25] <shadeslayer_> losing mind
[18:25] <shadeslayer_> s/finished/devoured , really
[18:25] <Mamarok> which book?
[18:25] <shadeslayer_> Mamarok: Shadow of the wind
[18:25] <shadeslayer_> Mamarok: valorie gave it to me at Randa
[18:26] <shadeslayer_> I haz devoured it whole
[18:26] <shadeslayer_> in 2 days
[18:26] <shadeslayer_> maybe you saw me reading it on the train
[18:26] <Mamarok> u should have read it in Spanish :)
[18:26] <shadeslayer_> hah
[18:27]  * shadeslayer_ is sad that they removed b43 from the linux-firware-nonfree package
[18:27] <shadeslayer_> screwed up my wifi it did
[18:28] <shadeslayer_> my bag smells of cheese
[18:28] <shadeslayer_> makes me hungry everytime I open it
[18:28] <shadeslayer_> and I already miss the food :(
[18:29]  * shadeslayer_ will probably order shitty pizza tonight
[20:09] <georgelappies> i will help with testing 4.14
[20:25] <shadeslayer_> meep meep
[20:48] <yofel> Odur: latest official is in backports, we have a private repository for our WIP stuff that was the new packages
[20:48] <yofel> *that has
[20:50] <Odur> Ok, so it's the version in the private repository you need testing?
[21:01] <yofel> Odur: yes, do you have a launchpad account?
[21:01] <Odur> yofel: Yes
[21:01] <Odur> ~odur
[21:01] <yofel> id?
[21:01] <yofel> thanks
[21:02] <yofel> Odur: you should have mail
[21:03] <Odur> Ok
[21:04] <yofel> Odur: please note that we do keep WIP stuff in there, so either be careful if you keep it enabled or disable it after the testing is done until the next time.
[21:04] <Odur> yofel: Got it. I'll set it up tomorrow. It's getting a little late here
[21:05] <yofel> also, you'll need apt-transport-https and ca-certificates installed to use it
[21:05] <yofel> no problem :)
[21:13] <ahoneybun> hello
[21:17] <Riddell> hi ahoneybun
[21:22] <ahoneybun> how are you Riddell ?
[21:24] <Riddell> muy bien
[21:24] <ahoneybun> thats good
[21:24] <Riddell> remember to test 4.14 in trusty and utopic
[21:24]  * Riddell snoozes
[21:24] <ahoneybun> well...
[21:24] <Riddell> ...?
[21:24] <ahoneybun> I've been testing the elementary beta for about a weel
[21:24] <ahoneybun> *week
[21:25] <ahoneybun> but I'm downloading the 14.04 iso right now
[21:31] <valorie> shadeslayer_: I have questions too!
[21:31] <valorie> you can always read it again, more slowly....
[21:37] <ahoneybun> hey valorie
[21:41] <valorie> hi ahoneybun
[21:41] <valorie> sorry, just stopping in for a min; gotta clean my dirty house
[21:44] <ahoneybun> np valorie
[22:11] <allee> Riddell: can you have a look at bzr branch lp:~allee/kubuntu-packaging/digikam
[22:12] <allee> Riddell: I can spend some time tomorrow to fix stuff.  So we get digikam in before the feature freeze on 21th
[22:52] <ahoneybun> kubuntu here I come!
[23:18] <soee> hiho
[23:26] <ahoneybun> Riddell: still here?
[23:30] <soee> someone can give ninjas ppa ?
[23:33] <valorie> !ninjas
[23:33] <valorie> haha
[23:33] <valorie> not much info
[23:34] <valorie> sorry about the pingall, ninjas -- that list could do with some updating
[23:35] <valorie> and the ninjanotes don't give a clue
[23:37] <ahoneybun> valorie: yea I don't really see a ppa to test 4.13
[23:37] <ahoneybun> *4.14
[23:42] <valorie> oh, there is
[23:42]  * valorie has 14 on the other laptop + next
[23:42] <valorie> should update it
[23:42] <valorie> I think it's an alpha, let me get the blogpost about it for ya
[23:43] <valorie> https://blogs.kde.org/2014/07/15/plasma-5-here-all-ready-eat-your-babies
[23:44] <valorie> whether there is a utopic plain without next; dunno
[23:46] <soee> ok to time to go to bed
[23:47] <soee> su later :)
[23:51] <ahoneybun> hey valorie


[01:28] <BFTD> @schedule los_angeles
[01:28] <ubotu> Schedule for America/Los_Angeles: 10 Jul 08:00: Kernel Team | 11 Jul 05:00: Edubuntu | 12 Jul 08:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Jul 17:00: MOTU Team | 14 Jul 10:00: Xubuntu Developers | 17 Jul 12:00: Technical Board
[12:59] <mr_pouit> @schedule Paris
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[00:03] <bratsche> jono: You can either do it when you create the indicator, with app_indicator_new()
[00:03] <bratsche> Or with app_indicator_set_icon()
[00:04] <jono> bratsche, what to I pass set_icon?
[00:05] <jono> bratsche,  a path to an icon?
[00:06] <bratsche> No, the icon name.
[00:06] <jono> hmmm
[00:06] <jono> how can I find out an apps icon name?
[00:06] <bratsche> There's some icon naming spec somewhere.. tbh I don't really know where is a proper list of these names. :/
[00:06] <jono> ahhh its ok
[00:06] <RAOF> jono: The .desktop file is generally a good place.
[00:06] <jono> I have it
[00:07] <jono> ok solved that
[00:08] <jono> bratsche, ok, right now I have:
[00:08] <jono> self.statusicon.connect('popup-menu', self.on_icon_popup, self.menu)
[00:08] <jono> I need to port this over to appindicator
[00:09] <bratsche> Oh damn, people use Python?  Ugh.
[00:09] <bratsche> :)
[00:09] <jono> heh
[00:10] <jono> I tried: self.menu.connect('popup-menu', self.on_icon_popup) and no luck
[00:10] <jono> I just want to trigger the popup-menu signal
[00:12] <jono> I guess there needs to be an appindicator signal for this
[00:12] <jono> as it maps to the gtkstatusicon
[00:12] <bratsche> I think you can emit the signal yourself, but I don't know the Python fu for it.
[00:13] <bratsche> But I think you can do g_signal_emit_by_name (self.menu, "popup-menu",....)
[00:13] <jono> hmmm
[00:13] <jono> I basically want to run a method when the icon is clicked on
[00:14] <jono> so I would need to detect when it is clicking on
[00:14] <bratsche> Oh, when someone clicks on the indicator?
[00:14] <jono> yes
[00:14] <jono> maybe I could use set-focus-child
[00:14] <jono> I basically want to regenerate the menu whenever it is clicked
[00:15] <jono> as it has dynamic items
[00:15] <bratsche> Oh shit.
[00:15] <bratsche> Hmm.
[00:15] <bratsche> I don't think you can do that right now.
[00:15] <jono> balls
[00:15] <bratsche> Let me think for a sec.
[00:15] <jono> thanks :)
[00:17] <bratsche> I think one option is that you could dump a menu with every menuitem to the indicator, and then hide the menuitems dynamically.  But I don't think there's currently any event proxy for that popup-menu event so you'd need to hide the menuitems at runtime as they change.
[00:18] <jono> it seems like I just need to ask ted to add this
[00:18] <bratsche> Yeah probably.
[00:18] <jono> ok, thanks pal
[00:18] <jono> Getting Things GNOME is most of the way there :)
[00:19] <bratsche> Nice!
[00:23] <jono> bratsche, ok, I emailed him about it
[00:23] <jono> thanks!
[00:24] <bratsche> Sure dude, any time :)
[17:23] <vish> djsiegel1: hi.. the solution for the .RUN file was trivial [or i think so] we can keep the terminal from auto-closing? is that tugh?
[17:23] <vish> tough*
[17:23] <djsiegel1> vish: I don't think it's a good paper cut
[17:23] <djsiegel1> (1) it doesn't affect most Ubuntu users
[17:24] <djsiegel1> (2) changing it will break behavior for many sys admins who have written scripts
[17:24] <djsiegel1> many people may depend on terminals closing themselves
[17:24] <djsiegel1> we could break that, and then support calls would explode from users with exited terminals filling up their screens :)
[17:25] <vish> ok , ;)
[17:25] <djsiegel1> but I agree it's a good feature for GNOME Terminal to implement -- keep open
[17:25] <djsiegel1> I've needed it in the past
[17:25] <vish> djsiegel1: yeah , thats why i didnt set a milestone :)
[17:25] <djsiegel1> And you can confirm paper cuts without milestoneing them
[17:25] <djsiegel1> looks like we have way more than 10 paper cuts queued up for round-10
[17:26] <vish> djsiegel1: thats for now , on purpose...
[17:26] <djsiegel1> ok
[17:26] <vish> djsiegel1: i'v been trying to get some folks fix bugs on milestone 10 , so if they fix it we are good..
[17:26] <djsiegel1> ok, cool
[20:36] <jono> tedg, bratsche, take a look at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/356738/
[20:36] <jono> its a simple python script that creates an app indicator
[20:37] <jono> the problem is that when I wrap the indicator code in a class and create an object and create it, it doesnt work
[20:37] <jono> if I just run the indicator code without the class it works fine
[20:37] <jono> any idea why?
[20:37] <jono> the class runs ok, the constructor is run
[20:37] <bratsche> Because it's written in Python, and God has already killed all the available kittens for the day.
[20:38]  * bratsche clicks
[20:38] <jono> haha
[20:38] <jono> bratsche, tedg I think it might be a bug, as the class is running
[20:39] <jono> aha, just the man
[20:39] <jono> DBO, can you look at  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/356738/
[20:39] <jono>  its a simple python script that creates an app indicator
[20:39] <jono>  the problem is that when I wrap the indicator code in a class and create an object and create it, it doesnt work
[20:39] <jono>  if I just run the indicator code without the class it works fine
[20:39] <jono>  any idea why?
[20:39] <jono>  the class runs ok, the constructor is run
[20:39] <DBO> looking
[20:39] <jono> thanks
[20:40] <jono> I added a quick test to create and show a gtk window in the constructor and it showed, so the gtk mainloop is running
[20:40] <jono> I want to get this snippet in python-snippets :)
[20:48] <DBO> interesting problem jono
[20:48] <jono> DBO, odd, eh?
[20:51] <DBO> I wonder if python is gcing it
[20:52] <DBO> nope
[20:53] <jono> DBO, gcing?
[20:53] <DBO> garbage collecting
[20:53] <DBO> oh wait
[20:54] <DBO> got it
[20:55] <DBO> you got bit by garbage collection
[20:55] <DBO> jono, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/356741/
[20:56] <jono> DBO, what is different?
[20:56] <DBO> the self's
[20:56] <jono> oh they are self
[20:56] <jono> why does that matter?
[20:56] <DBO> it stores the variables as class level instead of method
[20:56] <DBO> so your constructor was ending, and then the items were being collected
[20:57] <jono> oh right
[20:57] <jono> gotcha
[20:57] <jono> thanks!
[20:57] <jono> hmm still not working
[20:58]  * DBO double checks
[20:58] <DBO> works fine here
[20:58] <DBO> i see an ubuntu icon
[20:58] <DBO> and 4 menu items
[20:58] <jono> oh it does work
[20:59] <DBO> ok good
[20:59] <jono> thanks DBO!
[21:00] <DBO> np
[21:06] <mrmcq2u> why has rgba been ripped from the ppa?
[21:08] <tedg> mrmcq2u: My guess would be that it's gone into the main distro... but I bet kenvandine would know.
[21:09]  * kenvandine reads back
[21:09] <mrmcq2u> well a new version of gtk has been pushed into lucid but I saw nothing about rgba in the changelog
[21:09] <jono> Application Indicator example added to python-snippets :)
[21:10] <kenvandine> mrmcq2u, oh... i don' tknow... ask bratsche
[21:10] <kenvandine> latest patch he gave me removed it
[21:10] <mrmcq2u> thats odd
[21:11] <tedg> jono: Cool!
[21:11] <mrmcq2u> was hoping to test it with murrine from git which required a later version of gtk than the one previously supplied in the ppa
[21:14] <jono> tedg, :)
[21:15] <kenvandine> bratsche, i assume you have the story on that?
[21:25] <bratsche> Hang on a minute
[21:32] <jono> tedg, jcastro http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/01/14/application-indicators-rocking-the-house/
[21:35] <tedg> jcastro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators#Custom%20Fallbacks
[21:35] <jcastro> tedg: thanks
[21:36] <jcastro> I'll fix the spelling
[21:36] <tedg> jcastro: I really wanted to link to the fallback and unfallback functions in that last file... but I can't figure out how to do that with Loggerhead. :(
[21:36] <tedg> jcastro: Thanks :)
[21:43] <bratsche> mrmcq2u: I reverted some of those changes for now.  I need to focus on one thing at a time, and that was getting in the way.
[21:43] <bratsche> mrmcq2u: It is still something that's planned, but I don't know any specific timetables for it right now.
[21:45] <mrmcq2u> right
[21:45] <mrmcq2u> planned for lucid though right?
[21:55] <bratsche> Oh I think I was misreading some of this.  Yeah, a new version of gtk went into Lucid that doesn't have this patch.. but a new version went into the Desktop PPA that has an updated version of the patch, and this is hopefully going into Lucid soon.
[21:56] <bratsche> The new revision in the desktop PPA doesn't have the rgba stuff, because I don't have time to debug some stuff at the moment.
[21:58] <bratsche> Whether it goes into Lucid or into M I don't know yet, depends on time.  There's other stuff that needs working on.  But it is still planned, I just can't answer yet when it's going in.
[22:10] <bratsche> We need a bot to entertain us in this channel.
[22:23] <tedg> bratsche: Oh, I thought that was your job! ;)
[22:42] <kwwii> bratsche: did you see my email about csd?


[00:01] <wxl> woo hoo! new lxqt is out!
[00:01] <tsimonq2> yeah! I saw! :D
[00:01] <tsimonq2> forwarded to lubuntu-devel
[00:39] <tsimonq2> wxl: guess what
[00:39] <tsimonq2> wxl: ITP just got submitted for pavucontrol-qt
[00:39] <tsimonq2> wxl: Qt port of pavucontrol! \o/