[00:19] <jforman> hi all, i'm trying to get kube-router running on an 18.04 LTS ubuntu cloud image but having troubles with iptables where it claims a chain/target/match doesnt exist. i feel like i'm missing some kernel module but cant figure it out. any guidance on this output? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RvFXxBvSgk/. thanks
[00:24] <ChiLLabiS> jforman: I guess it's the wrong time on the day/night. I tried asking a question too earlier
[00:36] <jsmith-INS> I am running Proxmox which is based on Debian/Ubuntu but my question isn't directly related to that. I had a NAT setup that stopped working. https://pastebin.com/raw/07dgEBMX
[00:37] <jsmith-INS> I have tried logging and everything and it seems the POSTROUTING on the nat table just is never being reached anymore?
[00:37] <jsmith-INS> I have no other rules setup except the masquerade. i would love any ideas
[00:59] <JonelethIrenicus> trying to update results in a TON of 404
[00:59] <JonelethIrenicus> is this related to the whole 32bit thing ?
[01:01] <Bashing-om> JonelethIrenicus: "a TON of 404" sounds like an EOL release , what shows ' lsb_release -a ' ?
[01:01] <JonelethIrenicus> Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS
[01:02] <JonelethIrenicus> E: Release file for http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-security/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 2h 28min 47s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
[01:02] <JonelethIrenicus> E: Release file for http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 2h 29min 21s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
[01:02] <JonelethIrenicus> E: Release file for http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-backports/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 2h 30min 14s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
[01:03] <Bashing-om> JonelethIrenicus: Oh your system clock is out of sync.
[01:04] <JonelethIrenicus> seriously?
[01:04] <JonelethIrenicus> thats why?
[01:05] <JonelethIrenicus> wow good catch
[01:05] <Bashing-om> JonelethIrenicus: Yeah real good bet -> "invalid for another 2h 30min 14s" .
[01:05] <JonelethIrenicus> so restricting updates based on geographic location?
[01:07] <Bashing-om> JonelethIrenicus: Not that .. just a bit more security // make sure that the respective data bases are in agreement.
[01:16] <Xaerlur> .
[01:17] <Lost66> hey o/
[01:22] <Lost66> everyone sleeping or busy?
[01:23] <SpiritHorse> I should be sleeping
[01:23] <SpiritHorse> Lost66: hello
[01:24] <Lost66> I see qwq
[01:24] <Lost66> well, I am here to try my luck to find someone who can help me with an ubuntu server and podman qwq
[01:27] <SpiritHorse> try your luck and ask the question while being as descriptive as possible
[01:27] <SpiritHorse> in a channel of 1000+ people you never know who might have the answer
[01:27] <Lost66> aight
[01:30] <Lost66> So I try to run a discord bot, that uses podman and postgres, I could run postgres and the setup, but I can't activate the .service file - it always says " podman-idlerpg.service: Control process exited, code=exited status=125" and Process: 1912 ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/podman build -t idlerpg:latest PATH_TO_IDLERPG (code=exited, status=125), I litera
[01:30] <Lost66> lly changed the file now about 40x times with different paths
[01:33] <ponyrider> Lost66: what does journalctl stay?
[01:33] <ponyrider> **say
[01:34] <Lost66> -- Unit podman-idlerpg.service has begun starting up.
[01:34] <Lost66>  systemd[1]: podman-idlerpg.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
[01:35] <Lost66> I changed the path in the .service, dunno why it don't accept it
[01:38] <ponyrider> you can start the container without systemd tho right?
[01:39] <ponyrider> why podamn build? not podman start?
[01:41] <Lost66> I don't know, I am not the developer, I just want to selfhost it and since the developer is more likely not cooperative, I have to ask everywhere
[01:44] <lbracher> Hi there! I had an issue with my trackpad and I installed xserver-xorg-core to resolve this, and this uninstalled a lot of packages. My trackpad now works, but the keyboard works until I login. Thereafter it doesn't work anymore. Do you have ideas on how to solve this? TIA!
[01:47] <Bashing-om> lbracher: ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-libinput ' shows "ii" as fully installed ?
[01:49] <lbracher> It says no package corresponds to xserver-xorg-input-libinput
[01:50] <lbracher> Do I install it?
[01:59] <lbracher> Bashing-om, any ideas?
[02:00] <lbracher> Oh, it came back to life mysteriously!
[02:00] <lbracher> Thank you! :)
[02:01] <Bashing-om> lbracher:  xserver-xorg-input-libinput install resolved ?
[02:03] <nt0> i added a logical volume to fstab and startup hangs with a message that the system is waiting on /dev/mapper/<vg-lv>.  everything works well when i mount the lv manually and i amended the fstab file in the same way i've done it on non-ubuntu systems.
[02:09] <nt0> "A start job is running for /dev/mapper/vg01-lvname
[02:29] <ayew> what does /lib/systemd/system/local-fs.target say
[03:36] <realies> what's the best (most native feeling) remote desktop server/client for ubuntu?
[03:36] <realies> (remoting in ubuntu from cross-platform devices)
[03:39] <_h3x4> what key combo for utf8
[03:46] <ayew> realies: i use vnc just because its very easy to setup and theres plenty of clients available. There are arguments for spice or freerdp.
[03:46] <ayew> once again, i use xvnc because its easy and ships with debian
[03:47] <ayew> aunless you have some specific needs it doesn't matter from my experience.
[03:47] <ayew> KRDC is my favourite linux client
[03:48] <hexchat> hello
[03:48] <hexchat>  this is going to somebody elses android ohone
[03:49] <hexchat> the bullshit didnt worrk and now it looks like somebody sits there and configures interfaces manually
[03:50] <hexchat> this is public log
[03:50] <hexchat> more trash
[03:51] <hexchat> what needed to rebuild android from ubuntu
[03:51] <hexchat> paid $10 to join the club
[03:55] <hexchat> how enter utf8
[03:55] <hexchat> what combo
[03:59] <realies> running 18.04, can I log in to the default GNOME theme somehow? the cog wheel on the login only has Ubuntu and Ubuntu on Wayland
[04:00] <realies> sorry, meant 18.04
[04:01] <realies> and that's what i've written above 🤷
[04:04] <appa> is there a way to pre-install an iso to a drive without actually booting the iso?
[04:04] <ponyrider> appa: i suppose you could clone an existing installation
[04:05] <appa> yeah I was thinking that... maybe build a vm and figure out how to convert the vm to an image... I'm sure that's a thing
[04:07] <ponyrider> yeah you can just mount the VDI and dd --> parition. you would have to maybe configure the bootloader tho
[04:08] <hexchat> realies looks like unifont is nmot working
[04:09] <realies> is freerdp a server or a client?
[04:09] <hexchat>  i.e.  🤷
[04:09] <realies> installed xrdp according to a guide that also wanted mate-core and am confused by what's going on atm :)
[04:11] <ayew> xrdp is a server implementation of microsft RDP
[04:11] <hexchat> hello ayew
[04:11] <ayew> realies (forgot to tag you)
[04:12] <hexchat> where are you working these days?
[04:13] <realies> ayew i think i'll just try a better vnc client :/
[04:14] <ayew> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-vnc-on-ubuntu-18-04 if you want to setup vnc
[04:14] <realies> still getting some weird input lag that I would not expect from a VM on the same machine
[04:14] <realies> ayew, the host provides a VNC server into the ubuntu VM
[04:14] <ayew> oh
[04:14] <realies> qemu/libvirt
[04:15] <ayew> the client shouldn't make a difference afaik
[04:15] <ayew> in performance
[04:15] <ayew> although i know in some clients KRDC you can lower the bandwidth settings to improve stability
[04:15] <ayew> like KRDC*
[04:16] <realies> trying tightvnc from a win10 vm on the same host atm lol
[04:16] <realies> could it be that the ubuntu vm does not have a gpu assigned to it?
[04:17] <ayew> possible if its from a host
[04:17] <realies> wdym?
[04:23] <hexchat> ayew do you speak hausa
[04:25] <realies> can you make the top bar black when the window is maximised instead of the ubuntu gradient it goes to atm?
[04:29] <ChiLLabiS> realies: try installing gnome-tweaks
[04:30] <ChiLLabiS> and gnome-shell
[04:30] <realies> ChiLLabiS, I think I have the tweaks
[04:30] <ChiLLabiS> ah ok
[04:30] <realies> isn't the shell coming by default?
[04:31] <ChiLLabiS> gnome-chrome-shell or someting.. And then you can download themes from gnomes website
[04:31] <CryptoSiD> Hi, im getting the follow mail every night and I'm not sure why: 2019-09-02 23:37:40 1i4zdU-0004rS-7a Failed to create spool file /var/spool/exim4//input//1i4zdU-0004rS-7a-D: Read-only file system
[04:31] <CryptoSiD> The file system is not ready only and I haven'T changed the permission of /var/spool/exim4. Could someone let me know what are the correct permissions?
[04:32] <realies> ChiLLabiS, I need another theme?
[04:32] <ChiLLabiS> For the topbar yeah
[04:32] <ChiLLabiS> Though it might change the whole look
[04:33] <ChiLLabiS> Nevermind me, i'm a newb
[04:33] <realies> eh :?
[04:42] <realies> how to activate the theme? do you select the css file?
[04:45] <ChiLLabiS> In Appearence
[04:45] <ChiLLabiS> SHell
[04:48] <realies> didn't know about the .themes folder
[04:56] <ChiLLabiS> realies: You need some extentions too for it to work. Just install everyone and you can tweak it some more! 'sudo apt install gnome-shell-extension*'
[04:56] <ChiLLabiS> :)
[04:56] <ChiLLabiS> I had to reboot some sometimes for it to work properly
[04:57] <realies> all good, looks awesome
[04:59] <ChiLLabiS> I removed the dash and only use the topbar :)
[05:15] <OerHeks> kernel update bionic <IP_ADDRESS>.84
[05:16] <realies> can I get sound from Ubuntu over VNC?
[05:17] <realies> meh, might not be easy...
[05:17] <realies> trying to get sound from a ubuntu vm over to a win10 box
[05:19] <ChiLLabiS> Anybody knows if this will be fixed for Bionic? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1838133
[05:32] <Ouyes_> is it possible to know who downloaded the project on github.com private repository?
[05:37] <realies> seems like i only have dummy output for audio
[05:37] <OerHeks> Ouyes_, reask in #github perhaps?
[05:38] <OerHeks> VNC does not support sound. maybe you can push PulseAudio over SSH
[05:41] <realies> passed through the chipset audio controller
[05:42] <realies> now having digital stereo out in the settings but not getting it through via teamviewer
[05:44] <OerHeks> teamviewer is something different than vnc
[05:44] <realies> it is
[05:44] <OerHeks> ask the teamviewer channel perhaps?\
[05:45] <NegativeFlare> Teamviewer uses port 80, where as VNC uses 5900
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> and be careful with both
[05:46] <NegativeFlare> ^ PLEASE secure your VNC if you're going to use it. I don't know HOW many people I've seen get jacked up because they didn't have a pass setup on their VNC Server
[05:47] <realies> I have no issue with ports and security, all I need is sound over the same protocol as the picture
[05:48] <NegativeFlare> Teamviewer would be your best bet then
[05:49] <realies> for some reason it ain't coming through
[05:57] <realies> both with the chipset audio device and dummy output
[06:13] <realies> wonder if reinstalling ubuntu would help with that...
[06:23] <realies> welp, time to reinstall
[06:23] <jaggz> what does your /etc/ld.so.conf.d/oiio.conf contain?
[06:23] <jaggz> is there a website that lets me look at the file contents within packages?
[06:24] <jaggz> in debian jessie it has just /opt/lib/oiio/lib in it
[06:24] <realies> jaggz is that related to the above?
[06:24] <jaggz> realies, aww, no, sorry.
[06:24] <geirha> jaggz: https://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:24] <realies> aight
[06:25] <OerHeks> get the source? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openimageio
[06:25] <geirha> (assuming you meant the list of files a package installs)
[06:26] <OerHeks> i think such config is generated, not static
[06:26] <jaggz> geirha, heya :)  hrm.. no I'm familiar with that -- but I don't think that lets me look at what's inside one of the files (actually a search for the file isn't even showing me the package.. not sure what I'm doing wrong)
[06:27] <realies> LVM or not for an Ubuntu VM?
[06:27] <jaggz> OerHeks, was worried about that..
[06:27] <jaggz> so, can you confirm that it's the same as my file's contents?
[06:28] <jaggz> containing the one path
[06:28] <jaggz> oh I'm not in jessie, I'm in buster.
[06:29] <OerHeks> oh debian, wrong channel?
[06:29] <jaggz> OerHeks, no in ubuntu
[06:29] <jaggz> a dev for blender wants to know so he can make some stuff compatible I think
[06:30] <jaggz> this page says the maintainer is "debian phototools maintainers" though .. seems like it's likely not changed then.. but anyway, if one of you could let me know I'd appreciate it
[06:31] <rfm> realies, yes, that's right.
[06:31] <realies> rfm, what's right?
[06:32] <jaggz> seriously, do none of you have /etc/ld.so.conf.d/oiio.conf  or the time (or security knowhow :)) to tell me what your ubuntu version has in it?
[06:32] <OerHeks> jaggz, i am not going to install it.
[06:32] <rfm> realies, either LVM or not, those are the choices.
[06:32] <jaggz> OerHeks, you fall into the first category of not having :)  thanks bud
[06:32] <realies> rfm, was questioning what's best :)
[06:34] <rfm> realies, and I was pointing out that there isn't one best...
[06:34] <jaggz> actually I'm not finding any package providing it anywayy
[06:34] <jaggz> I don't know where mine came from
[06:34] <jaggz> and trying to find packages with the package search for oiio.conf turns up nothing in either debian nor ubuntu
[06:34] <jaggz> OerHeks, how did you find openimageio ?
[06:35] <jaggz> (how'd you know the file came from or was created by it?)
[06:35] <OerHeks> looking for oiio.conf gave me a clue
[06:36] <OerHeks> it is just a config file, genereated by the installer, you could wipe and reinstall to get the original file again
[06:36] <realies> rfm cool
[06:52] <realies> aaand no sound over teamviewer after reinstalling either
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> realies: what exactly are you trying to with catching sound on the remote?
[06:53] <realies> lotuspsychje, playing soundcloud for example
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> realies: you want to remote another pc to hear sound locally?
[06:55] <realies> I'd like to remote into a Ubuntu VM and hear the sound it plays
[07:24] <InnerUbuntu> How can I tweak the "Problem Reporting" value from terminal? (Gnome Settings > Privacy) I tried tweaking the following two keys but the value doesn't "graphically change" each time I re-open Gnome Settings
[07:24] <InnerUbuntu> I hope you understand °_°
[07:26] <EriC^^> InnerUbuntu: are all the configs in your home owned by your user? "sudo find ~ ! -user $USER" what does that return?
[07:30] <InnerUbuntu> EriC^^ It returns all the files located in my home folder, but wait: I said "the following two keys" but I actually didn't post them xD
[07:30] <InnerUbuntu> here they are $ gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.privacy send-software-usage-stats false$ gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.privacy report-technical-problems false
[07:31] <InnerUbuntu> basically, running these two commands doesnt seem to switch the "Problem Reporting" value
[07:32] <jnuit> does anyone know how to configure the default network interface, i mean the one where the default route is added? or is it assigned automatically to the first interface?
[07:33] <jnuit> to clarify: i want to be able to configure on which network interface the default route is added
[07:33] <jnuit> i search the docs but can't find anything
[07:34] <EriC^^> InnerUbuntu: are you sure you put a "!" in that command?
[07:36] <InnerUbuntu> EriC^^ ye but did you understand my problem? I mean, should that command do? Probably I didn't express myself correctly c:
[07:36] <InnerUbuntu> what should*
[07:37] <EriC^^> InnerUbuntu: yes i understood what you said, it's clear, however if the config files arent own by you then any changes you make won't be saved
[07:38] <EriC^^> InnerUbuntu: if you do "gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.privacy send-software-usage-stats" what does it give?
[07:38] <InnerUbuntu> 'false'
[07:38] <EriC^^> seems saved then
[07:39] <InnerUbuntu> ye but I dont have the "feedback" in the "graphical side"
[07:39] <InnerUbuntu> meaning that Gnome Settings doesn't seem to switch the value
[07:39] <ryuo> InnerUbuntu: not all settings are exposed.
[07:39] <InnerUbuntu> maybe it's just not the right key, that's why im asking
[07:41] <EriC^^> InnerUbuntu: anyway, try "sudo chown -R $USER:~ ~/" just to make sure the files in your home are owned by you
[07:42] <InnerUbuntu> ryuo Ik, for example you cant change "Connectivity Checking" value (which is in the Privacy tab as well) using gsettings, its config file is '/var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager-intern.conf'
[07:43] <ryuo> sounds like something to override in the system level config.
[07:44] <erle-> how to check what version Ubuntu was installed with?
[07:44] <InnerUbuntu> EriC^^ chown: invalid group: ‘<myusername>:~’
[07:44] <ryuo> what's the goal here? disable all automated outgoing connections?
[07:44] <EriC^^> erle-: "head /etc/apt/sources.list" should say
[07:44] <erle-> (for example I have 19.04, but it was upgraded from supposedly 16.10)
[07:44] <InnerUbuntu> ryuo being able to tweak privacy settings from terminal
[07:44] <ryuo> i see.
[07:45] <EriC^^> InnerUbuntu: sorry typo, sudo chown -R $USER: ~/
[07:45] <erle-> EriC^^, but there should be an "official" way, because automatic bug reports also contain this information
[07:45] <InnerUbuntu> done :D
[07:45] <erle-> the apt.sources can be changed by the user
[07:45] <EriC^^> erle-: maybe the installer log?
[07:45] <EriC^^> /var/log/installer
[07:45] <OerHeks> ls -lt /var/log/installer # gives the install date, or sources list, see commented out cdrom
[07:46] <EriC^^> also the ...installer/media-source file
[07:46] <EriC^^> *media-info
[07:47] <InnerUbuntu> EriC^^ does that command prevent the root user to see my files?
[07:47] <EriC^^> InnerUbuntu: no
[07:47] <InnerUbuntu> ok :c
[07:47] <ryuo> InnerUbuntu: no. root can see everything that isn't nailed down.
[07:48] <InnerUbuntu> ok thanks for the info
[07:49] <erle-> EriC^^, I think the media-info is the correct way to go
[07:49] <erle-> thanks a lot
[07:50] <EriC^^> erle-: no problem
[07:58] <InnerUbuntu> Ok i've come a step further, basically I ran $ gsettings monitor org.gnome.desktop.privacy and I tried to switch its value using the graphical interface - and nothing happened. At least I'm sure that it's not a key I can modify using gsettings :D
[07:59] <InnerUbuntu> Maybe it's a setting related to a package such as 'ubuntu-report' or 'ubuntu-bug' or 'whoopsie' or 'apport', which should be all canonical stuff
[08:00] <OerHeks> you might need to logout/login again to let it take effect?
[08:05] <Mathom123> Hello! I just installed Ubuntu on my new laptop, and its unable to pick up any external screens I attach to it on HDMI. Could anyone help me with this please? Xrandr doesn't list the external monitor. Log is here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mdDtdykhPq/
[08:06] <OerHeks> Mathom123, does that laptop have a FN key internal/external/both screens?
[08:07] <OerHeks> or some machines want the monitor attached before boot
[08:07] <Mathom123> OerHeks Yes, the laptop has FN keys.
[08:07] <Mathom123> (asus tuf fx505du)
[08:09] <OerHeks> fn F9 i guess? https://www.willwork4games.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/asus-tuf-gaming-fx505du-first-impression-02.jpg
[08:13] <Mathom123> OerHeks It doesn't seem to have any effect. :(  (some of my FN keys are working, like volume, but some are not, like keyboard backlight)
[08:13] <Mathom123> I cannot open the link you sent. :\
[08:14] <OerHeks> that was just a screenshot of the keyboard
[08:14] <OerHeks> anyway, i see you have nvidia onboard ? did you install any driver yet?
[08:16] <EriC^^> InnerUbuntu: there's some xorg program that has some options, 1 sec
[08:16] <EriC^^> InnerUbuntu: xdiagnose
[08:17] <InnerUbuntu> ok I'm installing it
[08:17] <Mathom123> OerHeks I installed the nvidia driver at additional drivers. I opened nvidia x server, that was behaving strange too (no VGA detected and cannot edit settings)
[08:17] <EriC^^> InnerUbuntu: oh, i have it installed by default
[08:17] <EriC^^> InnerUbuntu: are you using wayland or xorg?
[08:18] <InnerUbuntu> i'm on xorg right now
[08:18] <InnerUbuntu> I removed it completely in the past so that's probably why I didnt have it
[08:19] <InnerUbuntu> how can it help? :D
[08:21] <EriC^^> InnerUbuntu: there's an option to do with program crash reporting in it
[08:21] <EriC^^> InnerUbuntu: oh nevermind, you want to use the cli to disable right? i forgot :D
[08:22] <InnerUbuntu> oh :3
[08:26] <InnerUbuntu> EriC^^ However, I did some research around the web and from what I've understood I should be fine by removing the 'apport' package, which contains an executable named "apport-bug", renamed "ubuntu-bug" by canonical
[08:28] <EriC^^> InnerUbuntu: oh ok, cool
[08:28] <OerHeks> just disable woopsie; sudo systemctl stop/disable whoopsie
[08:29] <InnerUbuntu> ye, I just have to see if any reporting bug dialog pops up in the near future :|, if it doesnt then i solved :D
[08:29] <InnerUbuntu> oh I'll try it as well
[08:30] <Mathom123> OerHeks should I disable it, or was the meant for InnerUbuntu?
[08:31] <OerHeks> Mathom123, for InnerUbuntu ..
[08:32] <OerHeks> about your issue, did you try to boot with monitor attached? this sometimes helps
[08:33] <EriC^^> Mathom123: also maybe try adding some acpi_osi stuff to grub to get all the laptop functions running properly
[08:34] <InnerUbuntu> Ok let's hope I solved °_° Thanks for your patience and have a nice day <3
[08:34] <Mathom123> EriC^^ what options should I add? I tried this script, but after applying, I recieved a black screen and couldn't boot: https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[08:38] <EriC^^> Mathom123: what's in grub right now? type "grep LINUX /etc/default/grub"
[08:39] <Mathom123> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/359ShM9FHJ/ (I had to reinstall Ubuntu, so default)
[08:40] <EriC^^> Mathom123: ok, type "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows"
[08:40] <EriC^^> what is the latest version of windows there?
[08:41] <Mathom123> EriC^^ Windows 2015 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tVg6Fyp8h6/
[08:41] <EriC^^> Mathom123: ok, reboot, hold shift to get grub, then press "e" over ubuntu, go to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz ......quiet splash
[08:42] <EriC^^> Mathom123: after quiet splash type acpi_osi=! acpi_osi="Windows 2015"     then press F10 or ctrl+x to boot
[08:42] <Mathom123> EriC^^ ok, I'll try that now
[08:43] <EriC^^> Mathom123: also try leaving the hdmi monitor attached as OerHeks said, we can see the xorg log for any clues about it
[08:43] <EriC^^> it could be a bad EDID or something
[08:50] <jnuit> \leave
[08:54] <Mathom123> EriC^^ I tried adding acpi_osi=! acpi_osi="Windows 2015", but Ubuntu wouldn't boot this way (only seen a purple empty screen for half a minute, then I restarted). I left the HDMI monitor connected, as you asked.
[08:57] <EriC^^> Mathom123: alright, worth a shot
[08:58] <EriC^^> Mathom123: what does "sudo lshw -c video" and "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" give?
[08:59] <Mathom123> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kHbPKmQDzm/
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> Mathom123: got 2 graphics cards in there?
[09:01] <Mathom123> lotuspsychje I believe i have a dedicated geforce 1660TI and an integreted GPU on my AMD 3750H processor
[09:01] <_dbugger> I cant seem to open "Settings" on 18.04... Does anyone know why? I already reinstalled gnome-control-center but it did nothing
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> Mathom123: are you using both, or only your nvidia?
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> _dbugger: what happens when you launch gnome-control-center from terminal?
[09:02] <Mathom123> lotuspsychje I have no idea. It's a clean Ubuntu install. I just choose nvidia 430 proprietery driver from additional drivers, and that's all
[09:02] <ryuo> Mathom123: has anyone suggested checking if there's a bios update available?
[09:02] <_dbugger> lotuspsychje, (gnome-control-center:2514): GLib-CRITICAL **: 11:02:36.801: g_strsplit: assertion 'string != NULL' failed
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> _dbugger: doesnt launch from terminal neither?
[09:03] <Mathom123> ryuo yes, I already updated my bios, because it didn't detect all my RAM. (that fixed it)
[09:03] <_dbugger> lotuspsychje, and then I get a segmentation fault (core dump)
[09:03] <_dbugger> lotuspsychje, nope
[09:03] <ryuo> Mathom123: i see.
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> _dbugger: your ubuntu version and kernel version please?
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> Mathom123: maybe the cards are conflicting somehow, did you check bios if you can disable onboard graphics?
[09:04] <_dbugger> lotuspsychje, "4.15.0-58-generic" for "18.04.1"
[09:04] <ryuo> say what? .3 is out now
[09:05] <Mathom123> lotuspsychje Yes, i didn't find any option for that. (In fact, i don't have too many bios config options even in advanced mode)
[09:05] <EriC^^> Mathom123: is it picking up the monitor at all? try "udevadm monitor" and plug it in
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> Mathom123 EriC^^ maybe amdgpu black list could be worth a shot? since not using onboard graphics?
[09:06] <Mathom123> EriC^^ No, it doesn't. (i tried Xubuntu yesterday, installed gdm3 on it, that picked it up strangely though, but still couldn't display anything on it)
[09:07] <EriC^^> Mathom123: hmm
[09:07] <Mathom123> lotuspsychje I tried amdgpu.dc=0 in bios, but then I booted to a black screen. Or isn't that what you mean by blacklisting?
[09:07] <EriC^^> Mathom123: maybe a different kernel might help?
[09:08] <Mathom123> EriC^^ which one do you propose?
[09:08] <EriC^^> Mathom123: which have you tried?
[09:08] <EriC^^> Mathom123: type "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[09:08] <Mathom123> EriC^^ none yet, just the newest one that comes with 18.04.3
[09:09] <EriC^^> Mathom123: i had an issue lately, it wasnt really the same, i couldnt play any music on my hdmi tv, i ended up using an older kernel from grub and it worked again, maybe it's similar somehow
[09:09] <EriC^^> oh
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> should be 5.0.0-27 on hwe bionic
[09:09] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: he is according to xorg log
[09:09] <Mathom123> EriC^^
[09:09] <Mathom123> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ygymfDWvTw/
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> Mathom123: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1080217/how-to-blacklist-amdgpu-driver
[09:10] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: i'm not sure entirely amd blacklist will help, maybe in the future, but right now udev isnt even picking it up O.o
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> hmm weird
[09:11] <_dbugger> lotuspsychje, that was for me?
[09:11] <EriC^^> Mathom123: did you try the 4.15 kernel?
[09:11] <murthy> can anyone recommend me a bluetooth 4.0 or 5.0 dongle with aptx that works well in Ubuntu
[09:11] <EriC^^> Mathom123: also, sorry to ask but you're sure 100% of the cable it's not intermittently working or something?
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> _dbugger: can you check if your system is up to date please?
[09:12] <Mathom123> EriC^^ no problem, sure, I tried it with my previous laptop, it had no problem with the screen
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> murthy: this is the only source we have for certified hardware: https://certification.ubuntu.com/
[09:12] <EriC^^> Mathom123: oh ok
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> murthy: think most dongles should work nicely with blueman or gnome BT, if not you can always file a !bug
[09:13] <Mathom123> I'll give a try to 4.15
[09:13] <EriC^^> Mathom123: alright
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> Mathom123: does other drivers show in: ubuntu-drivers list ?
[09:13] <murthy> lotuspsychje: I have a 4.0 bt dongle, but I need a one that has aptx
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> murthy: perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-discuss you could ask other users for experiences?
[09:15] <murthy> ok
[09:17] <_dbugger> lotuspsychje, yes it is
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> _dbugger: is your graphics card driver loaded?
[09:17] <_dbugger> lotuspsychje, i think so. Any way I can check that?
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> _dbugger: sudo lshw -C video, its showing after driver=
[09:19] <_dbugger> lotuspsychje, https://hastebin.com/asamucatoh.sh
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> _dbugger: ok looks good
[09:19] <Mathom123> EriC^^ I booted with 4.15 generic. I had no luck with that, also as a bonus, my main displays resolution was reduced to 800x600, and I couldn't change that back to fullHD
[09:19] <Mathom123> (by main display I mean the laptop screen)
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> _dbugger: did this start to segfault after an update?
[09:20] <_dbugger> lotuspsychje, i dont know when it started... I just noticed it right now
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> _dbugger: but it worked before? can you confirm that?
[09:21] <_dbugger> Well, yeah, I mean. I have used my settings before, of course :P
[09:21] <_dbugger> just not sure when was the last time
[09:21] <_dbugger> probably a long time ago
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> Mathom123: another idea rising is the nvidia 430 could cause issues too, did you try another driver version yet?
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> _dbugger: could you try booting another kernel and another user please?
[09:22] <_dbugger> Well, id like to avoid a restart right now...
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> _dbugger: well we could file a bug but..we always want to try debug as much as possible first
[09:23] <EriC^^> Mathom123: aha
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> _dbugger: if another kernel or user doesnt fix this, we can proceed with a bug
[09:23] <_dbugger> lotuspsychje, ok, I will try to wrap everything up in the next hour, and try a reboot
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> allrighty
[09:23] <_dbugger> thanks
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> welcome
[09:23] <EriC^^> Mathom123: did you try "udevadm monitor" by any chance?
[09:25] <Mathom123> lotuspsychje I haven't I'll try switching between drivers as a last result though. What's strange to me is this line in journalctl : Sep 03 11:19:22 ASUS kernel: nvidia-gpu 0000:01:00.3: i2c timeout error e0000000
[09:25] <Mathom123> EriC^^ Yes, but no luck :\
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> Mathom123: as 430 driver is pretty new, id reccomend a switch try to lower version
[09:27] <EriC^^> Mathom123: maybe if you use some acpi settings like acpi_osi=Linux it might help?
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> there was alot of acpi issues in his dmesg for sure
[09:28] <EriC^^> Mathom123: aha it seems the hdmi on nvidia isnt wired to udevadm
[09:28] <EriC^^> https://forum.antergos.com/topic/11483/second-hdmi-monitor-is-not-auto-detected/4
[09:29] <EriC^^> Mathom123: maybe try a different nvidia driver as lotuspsychje suggested, it might be picking it up but not doing other stuff
[09:33] <Mathom123> EriC^^ lotuspsychje I have to go to work now, but thank you very much for your help and patience!! :) I will try experimenting with different driver and kernel versions (also might give a shot to 16.04 ubuntu) tonight, and come back if it still doesn't help.
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> good luck
[09:33] <EriC^^> Mathom123: no problem, good luck
[09:33] <Mathom123> thanks!
[10:26] <freakynl> Hi, have a 16.04 server that no longer boots. For some odd reason grub-mkconfig writes root=/dev/sda2 on the latest kernel, all previous versions it's using (and still generating) it by UUID
[10:29] <freakynl> nvm, does it because the initrd file is missing, will recreate it
[11:14] <Surfer2011> is this command correct? because it still scans /sharedfolders  ... du -h --max-depth=2 --exclude=/sharedfolders/ / >/sharedfolders/TV-Recording/systemplatte.txt
[11:14] <Surfer2011> i want to exclude the folder /sharedfolders ... in this scan
[11:17] <EriC^^> Surfer2011: try du -h --max-depth=1 --exclude="/sharedfolders/*" /
[11:17] <EriC^^> *depth=2
[11:18] <Surfer2011> ok i will try
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:32] <Iarla> Just doing some spring cleaning on my childs laptop and I see the Ubuntu browser from Ubuntu touch on here. How do I purge all that stuff again? The links Iḿ finding now relate to Android or UBports but this is stuff I put on around the time the BQ E4.5 was released. Thanks.
[11:33] <leftyfb> Iarla: what version of ubuntu?
[11:33] <ayew> what...version is the laptop running to get that package
[11:34] <Iarla> 16.04 LTS
[11:34] <ioria> Iarla, webbrowser-app iirc
[11:35] <ayew> huh, its not in the xenial repos. how the hell did it get installed
[11:35] <Iarla> Thanks ioria. Was there a ppa-purge command to just get rid of everything associated with it too? Just a little tight on disk space.
[11:35] <ioria> !info webbrowser-app xenial
[11:35] <Iarla> ayew: I don remember, but itś possible that this was a 14.04 laptop which was since upgraded.
[11:36] <ioria> Iarla, apt-cache policy webbrowser-app
[11:36] <Iarla> ioria: cool command, thank you :) archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 Packages is what comes back.
[11:37] <ioria> Iarla, do you want to remove it ?
[11:37] <Iarla> yes
[11:37] <ioria> Iarla, sudo apt purge webbrowser-app
[11:37] <Iarla> But.. I was sure the link had ci-train in it when I added the PPA.
[11:38] <ioria> Iarla, apt-cache policy webbrowser-app   | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:38] <Iarla> ioria: https://termbin.com/r3bmo
[11:39] <Surfer2011> can someone help me find the problem where my systemdrive diskspace has vanished
[11:39] <Surfer2011> https://pastebin.com/rDBaCDLP
[11:39] <ioria> Iarla, ok, go ahead with the purge cmd
[11:42] <leftyfb> Surfer2011: try ncdu
[11:42] <Surfer2011> what is ncdu?
[11:42] <Iarla> ioria: ppa-purge or apt purge?
[11:42] <Surfer2011> https://pastebin.com/sYG3R3mB
[11:43] <Iarla> oh, the one you mentioned above. Thanks.
[11:43] <ioria> Iarla, ok
[11:43] <leftyfb> Surfer2011: sudo apt install ncdu && sudo ncdu -x /
[11:44] <Surfer2011> After this operation, 94.2 kB of additional disk space will be used.
[11:44] <Surfer2011> E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.
[11:44] <Surfer2011> sry wrong line ^^
[11:45] <leftyfb> Surfer2011: sudo apt clean ; sudo apt-get autoremove
[11:47] <Surfer2011> nope nothing changed
[11:47] <ioria> Surfer2011, sudo du -Sh / --exclude=/proc --exclude=/home| sort -rh | head -3
[11:47] <Surfer2011> it's a 22GB SSD and i put nothing on it (nothing knowingly) besides OMV + OMV-Docker + 7 containers which all run and have mounted volumes on USB disks
[11:48] <Surfer2011> ioria: i should exclude the svr and sharedfolders also ?!
[11:48] <ioria> Surfer2011, try it
[11:50] <Surfer2011> https://pastebin.com/b5FgxtxS
[11:55] <ioria> Surfer2011, dpkg -l | grep ^ii| wc -l
[11:55] <Surfer2011> what does this do? 556
[11:56] <ioria> just the num of pkgs installed
[11:57] <ioria> Surfer2011, i guess you have some big pkg installed
[11:57] <Surfer2011> its OMV running on this server and nothing else but OMV-docker and 7 containers
[11:58] <Surfer2011> but those have mounted volumes on seperate disks so they should not be the problem?
[11:58] <ioria> e.g. i have 164M	/usr/bin  for 1942 pkgs
[11:58] <Surfer2011> but still not explaining the gone 21 GB of HDD
[11:58] <Surfer2011> or sdd
[11:59] <ioria> Surfer2011, idk, paste dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[11:59] <dajju> hello
[12:00] <Surfer2011> https://pastebin.com/nFVwF3Zy
[12:01] <dajju> i have a .desktop file which is not opening intended application
[12:01] <dajju> i have mate desktop installed on ubuntu
[12:02] <OerHeks> Surfer2011, looks like debian to me
[12:02] <Surfer2011> yes debian with openmediavault running on it
[12:02] <ioria> Surfer2011, dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size;10}\t${Package}\n' | sort -k1,1n
[12:02] <Surfer2011> and i installed the docker plugin of omv and there are 7 containers running in docker ... that's all
[12:03] <Surfer2011> https://pastebin.com/rRw3RiBc
[12:04] <ioria> Surfer2011, at the bottom, you'll see the biggest pkgs; you might try to remove something
[12:06] <Surfer2011> but those are KBs? so 261 MB package size`?
[12:07] <dajju> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/srGpzGWcCS/
[12:09] <dajju> application icon is showing in menu but on clicking the application nothing happens
[12:10] <dajju> please help
[12:11] <leftyfb> Surfer2011: wait, this is debian, not ubuntu?
[12:11] <Surfer2011> yes
[12:11] <leftyfb> Surfer2011: then why are you asking for support in #ubuntu?
[12:12] <Surfer2011> good question because i'm struggling
[12:12] <leftyfb> Surfer2011: try #debian or ##linux
[12:12] <leftyfb> Surfer2011: we cannot support anything other than Ubuntu here
[12:23] <freannrak> I'm running 19.04 and having trouble with my Apple magic keyboard. Media keys (volume control + stop/play/forward/back) were working out of the box. I paired it with another device and after repairing it they no longer work. I've tried completely forgetting the device under bluetooth options and repairing, but same result. Any advice?
[12:26] <ayew> If you do sudo showkey -k and press them, what happens
[12:29] <freannrak> ayew: no output. It's very interesting/weird, because it was working out of the box before for months :S.
[12:30] <ayew> hmm, that makes it worse. If there was an output its just Ubuntu isn't telling the player what to do, but this is to do with it not inferfacing correctly.
[12:30] <ayew> The keyboard that is
[12:31] <wedr> Hello, was wondering if Ubuntu supports closing windows using mouse scroll wheel click like on Windows 10?
[12:32] <ioria> freannrak, it's try from the command line (sudo bluetoothctl ; remove <mac address>)
[12:50] <Mudchains> Hi all
[12:52] <Mudchains> Has anyone experience with nfs and copy ownership of files? I used rsync and cp to copy local data to the nfs share..but the ownership is still set to the user who copied the files (me)
[12:52] <JimBuntu> Hi Mudchains ! If you have a question for volunteer support, please speak away :) Otherwise, we would love to chat you up over in #ubuntu-offtopic or discuss Ubuntu in general over in #Ubuntu-discuss
[12:53] <JimBuntu> Mudchains, did you rsync with the '-a' option?
[12:54] <golden_receiver> 4.15.0-60-generic <- docker run with dns flag seems to kill the machine
[12:54] <golden_receiver> the host
[12:54] <Mudchains> JimBuntu yes (rsync -rqaHpEAXogt and also sync -avz), with cp I used "cp -rp"
[12:54] <golden_receiver> only with -60 .. strange
[12:55] <pizzaburger> Hello! Is there a solution to having dual monitors with different resolutions and different scaling? My laptop is 3840x2160 and external monitor is 2560x1440. Need the laptop to be at 200%, and external at 100%. Running Ubuntu 19.04. Thank you!
[12:56] <Mudchains> JimBuntu @ /etc/exports I have the following parameters: rw,insecure,sync,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash
[12:57] <JimBuntu> Mudchains, what FS on the NFS share? Does it support ownership properly?
[12:57] <Mudchains> JimBuntu ext4
[12:58] <JimBuntu> Mudchains, sorry then, this is now beyond me. I am sure you will get help though... others, please chime in.
[12:59] <Mudchains> JimBuntu thanks :)  I already google for hours, but I am a bit lost haha
[13:00] <Mudchains> as I have to move docker data (projects) its a b*tch to fix all the ownerships of the files & folders manualy
[13:01] <mgedmin> Mudchains: were you running rsync as root?  only root can set file ownership to a different user id
[13:01] <Mudchains> mgedmin I used sudo rsynco ...
[13:01] <Mudchains> sudo rsync *
[13:02] <mgedmin> also, when speaking rsync, the root'ness that matters is on the destination side (so rsync files-here root@remoteserver:/there or sudo rsync user@remoteserver:/here /there)
[13:02] <mgedmin> (for brevity I've omitted the rsync flags such as -a that are also required to preserve file ownership)
[13:03] <Mudchains> its from local to remote, so rsync files-here root@remoteserver:/there i did :)
[13:03] <mgedmin> (and then I regretted it hence my verbose comments afterward)
[13:03] <Mudchains> will i didnt use the root@remoteserver, but myownuser@remoteserver
[13:04] <Mudchains> as I am using active directoy sso ^^ let me try the root account
[13:12] <Surfer2011> thanks for helping me anyway, we (debian people) found the problem ... my rsync backup was backing up to the system-drive because of ONE letter written in capital letter instead of small ... casesensitiv i know but tiny mistake huge result
[13:12] <Mudchains> Argh and ofcourse root isnt enabled for ssh.. :)
[13:13] <gst568923> > Why in the ubuntu 19.04 repository the package `pamusb` is not present?
[13:14] <ayew> Pamusb is super unmaintained
[13:14] <ayew> https://github.com/aluzzardi/pam_usb
[13:14] <n-iCe> hi
[13:16] <ayew> Here's a ppa gst5689 https://launchpad.net/~promasu/+archive/ubuntu/libpam-usb
[13:16] <gst568923> ayew strange because the authentication system via usb device is very convenient, especially if you do not want to choose a short password each time to remember and enter
[13:24] <freannrak> ioria: unfortunately that didn't work either :(
[13:31] <Mudchains> mgedmin yes its working when i use the root account on the destination server :)
[13:31] <Mudchains> you just saved my day!
[13:39] <JonelethIrenicus> what is the solution for Linux users and OneDrive?
[13:43] <ryuo> JonelethIrenicus: use the browser? or setup synchronization with the onedrive package it seems, but there's no GUI for that.
[13:45] <ayew> https://www.expandrive.com/onedrive-for-linux/
[13:45] <ayew> (not FOSS)
[13:46] <ayew> https://www.insynchq.com/
[13:47] <Ool> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/02/insync-support-onedrive-linux-client
[13:48] <ayew> Ryuo: you can also use rclone I believe which is rsync for cloud services to mount it as a drive
[13:48] <ryuo> why ping me? i don't use onedrive.
[13:49] <ayew> Bad reading comprehension apparently, sorry
[13:50] <Ool> good answer to JonelethIrenicus's question, perhaps it's: Linux users don't use onedrive :)
[13:51] <JonelethIrenicus> Ool: It would be great if all the decisions on what to use were my personal choice, but sometimes it doesn't work out
[13:53] <JonelethIrenicus> im fine paying for software
[13:54] <JonelethIrenicus> haha the shaq image https://www.insynchq.com/blog/insync-3/
[13:54] <JonelethIrenicus> its so creepy
[13:54] <ayew> There are cli tools that do it for free, if you don't mind that.
[13:55] <JonelethIrenicus> ayew: thanks
[13:56] <JonelethIrenicus> funny thing is, I think InSync is probably better than the offical microsoft client
[13:57] <JonelethIrenicus> one drive client on windows doesn't have functioning delta sync
[13:58] <JonelethIrenicus> supposedly just got rolled out in the beta
[15:05] <ryuo> !hammertime
[15:06] <leftyfb> ryuo: can we help you with something?
[15:06] <ryuo> nah. was just testing something.
[15:40] <moldy> hi
[15:40] <JonelethIrenicus> hi moldy
[15:41] <moldy> did the default value / behaviour of systemd's PrivateTmp change somewhat-recently on 18.04?
[15:42] <moldy> i have a system here where some docker containers suddenly stopped working (they are using bind mounts for /tmp/.X11-unix). i was able to fix it by explicitly setting PrivateTmp=false in the docker unit file
[15:43] <aiena> i was just trying out snap. I am curious what happens if you snap install a package under apt management as well do they conflict?
[15:45] <JonelethIrenicus> aiena: no\
[15:46] <lordcirth_> aiena, they install to different paths.
[15:46] <aiena> hmm this sounds interesting. SO if I used snap for newer devel packages I could compile newer software without having to worry about the distro
[15:47] <aiena> idk if snap is used for devel packages yet though
[15:47] <JonelethIrenicus> aiena: that is the idea
[15:47] <JonelethIrenicus> appimage is nice as well
[15:47] <JonelethIrenicus> it is completely self contained and compressed
[15:47] <JonelethIrenicus> doesn't need install
[15:47] <aiena> appimage is nice but it more for bundling apps
[15:48] <aiena> i think debugging from within an appimage would be harder
[15:48] <JonelethIrenicus> dont believe so
[15:48] <JonelethIrenicus> and you can use appimage deamon if you want file associations and such
[15:48] <aiena> ah
[15:49] <JonelethIrenicus> all good to test out for your needs
[15:49] <aiena> well I mostly compile to have the latest of select packages in userland while not touching the distro
[15:49] <aiena> but its not always possible as you home gets too full
[15:50] <JonelethIrenicus>  that is why i like the compressed state of appimages
[15:50] <aiena> i was wondering if snap could potentially solve that problem
[15:50] <JonelethIrenicus> it can
[15:50] <JonelethIrenicus> libraries are included with the snap
[15:51] <JonelethIrenicus> but that makes them larger
[15:51] <aiena> how do you search for snaps
[15:51] <JonelethIrenicus> snap search
[15:51] <JonelethIrenicus> or the snapcraft website
[15:51] <JonelethIrenicus> same with flatpak pretty much
[15:51] <JonelethIrenicus> and similar for appimage
[15:54] <popey_> aiena: no, we don't tend to snap libraries or headers
[15:54] <aiena> ok
[15:55] <aiena> was reading about snaps it looks like each snap is more like a windows setup.exe
[15:55] <popey_> more like an android apk really
[15:55] <popey_> or mac dmg
[15:55] <JonelethIrenicus> yep
[15:55] <aiena> so in terms of space apt is more efficient I guess
[15:55] <JonelethIrenicus> appimage is more like a dmg
[15:55] <popey_> they're compressed on disk, not unpacked.
[15:55] <JonelethIrenicus> snap is more like a exe
[15:56] <popey_> Not like a setup.exe as they spray files all over the filesystem, snaps don't
[15:56] <aiena> hmm can you tell me more about how snaps store files on your system
[15:56] <aiena> also I don't know how to snap search something
[15:57] <aiena> I'll try reading on snapcraft.io
[15:57] <popey_> if you snap install hello-world, you'll find a .snap file in /var/lib/snapd/snaps, which gets mounted under /snap/hello-world/<revision>
[15:57] <aiena> i think its a bad question here
[15:57] <popey_> we have a channel #snappy - if you want to chat more there, but it's fine
[15:57] <popey_> (I work on snapcraft)
[15:57] <aiena> i mean if a support question comes im halting out of respect
[15:58] <popey_> aiena: forum.snapcraft.io is the best place for snap related support requests
[15:58] <letterrip> hi all, is there a way to discover what key combination activate SysRq on my laptop?
[15:58] <popey_> or indeed #snappy for users, and #snapcraft for people building snaps
[15:58] <popey_> letterrip: usually the printscreen key
[15:58] <popey_> alt+prtscr
[15:58] <letterrip> popey_, alas that does various screenshot variants
[15:59] <popey_> Just noticed I don't have a sysrq key on my keyboard
[15:59] <letterrip> i've tried variants with ctrl; alt; fn; etc.
[15:59] <letterrip> and they all either take a screenshot or nothing
[15:59] <popey_> however, if I run "dmesg -Tw" and then press alt+prtscr,r I get this in the log: [Sun Sep  1 21:07:40 2019] sysrq: SysRq : This sysrq operation is disabled.
[15:59] <aiena> letterrip: if all fails you could try a liveboot into a distro and chrooting into the baremetal system
[15:59] <mgedmin> on recent thinkpad models the sysrq is hidden under fn+s
[16:00] <popey_> So it seems it's disabled here
[16:00] <letterrip> i have an ancient vaio
[16:00] <mgedmin> lol when I press it I get a screenshot
[16:00] <aiena> letterrip: you could try chrooting in
[16:01] <aiena> i forgot the procedure but i know you need to bind mount some parts
[16:01] <letterrip> aiena - i'm mostly looking for a way to get to a command line to reset my xserver when it freezes
[16:01] <aiena> exactly chroot from a liveboot
[16:01] <letterrip> in the past I've sshed in from my phone
[16:01] <aiena> and your in the command line of the other system then you can fix xserver or whatever
[16:01] <letterrip> but I'd prefer a way that doesn't require me to use a second device
[16:02] <aiena> or at least recover configuration for a reformat
[16:02] <aiena> letterrip: you dont need a second device
[16:02] <letterrip> if possible
[16:02] <aiena> you just need a liveboot thumb drive with ubuntu on it
[16:03] <letterrip> aiena - er how do i liveboot into a different distro if my system is frozen??
[16:03] <aiena> boot into the live system chroot into the system giving you trouble that is the one on the laptop hdd then fix whatever there and reboot without the thumb dirve
[16:03] <aiena> letterrip: can you remove the battery to reset it
[16:03] <aiena> then can you reach the bios?
[16:03] <letterrip> aiena - the bios is fairly useless on this system
[16:04] <aiena> if you can change the boot priority to the usb thats all thats needed or CD I guess since its old
[16:04] <letterrip> aiena - not currently a frozen system - but wanted to debug why libreoffice is causing freezes
[16:04] <letterrip> aiena - yeah can do that
[16:04] <letterrip> will use that perhaps if i can't figure out how to make sysrq work here
[16:05] <aiena> wait hmm if libreoffice is causing freezes
[16:05] <aiena> it may be harder to debug because after it runs its freezing right
[16:05] <aiena> you could try flushing LO config files
[16:05] <letterrip> aiena - well it is freezing xserver - the mouse still moves, but no keyboard input etc
[16:06] <aiena> hmm I seen that with ubuntu 19 on both vms and host systems
[16:06] <letterrip> and currently can't get to a terminal - though i can ssh via my phone (though have lost directions on how I did that)
[16:06] <aiena> hmm
[16:07] <aiena> i hope you can resolve the issue. 19 is pretty bad on older systems unfortunately
[16:07] <aiena> and older versions arent really supported
[16:07] <aiena> ubuntu 14 was the last ok working version on older hardware
[16:08] <letterrip> aiena - interesting to know
[16:08] <aiena> idk where the issue is though
[16:08] <letterrip> don't think I'm willing to use something quite so dated though :)
[16:08] <aiena> is it the newer linux kernel or other stuff
[16:08] <aiena> letterrip: lol i know.
[16:09] <letterrip> aiena - suspect it is related to using gpu calls
[16:09] <aiena> but hardware is costlier to upgrade then leaving software dated
[16:09] <aiena> than
[16:09] <aiena> maybe something like puppy linux may be worth trying out :P
[16:09] <letterrip> aiena - isn't a huge issue - i can can dual boot into the windows partition if need be to use libre
[16:10] <letterrip> but is rather absurd :)
[16:10] <aiena> letterrip: well its a but annoying when your workflow is interrupted though
[16:10] <aiena> I love linux because it has a sane double click for words
[16:10] <aiena> WIndows is insane it always adds the trailing whitespace
[16:10] <aiena> and WIndows is sweet not to have it user configurable
[16:11] <JimBuntu> aiena, We generally don't speak of w ( see GNU speak ) in the Ubuntu support channel ;p
[16:13] <aiena> JimBuntu: nods but I think deprecating humout is allowed in response to a support question :P
[16:13] <aiena> humour
[16:14] <aiena> linux has enabled people to roan freely with dual boots so
[16:14] <aiena> I'm Winliberated
[16:14] <aiena> roam
[16:15] <JimBuntu> Multi-boot for the win. k. I'm done. moving to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[16:15] <aiena> lol
[16:15] <aiena> If there is an ubuntu support question I totally am with you
[16:16] <aiena> letterrip: the irony is I have ubuntu running in a vm on a windows box to get the linux goodness minus the reboot
[16:17] <aiena> on my work system
[16:17] <moilo> hi, the screen on my convertible 19.04 budgie system is 90 degree rotated - how can i fix this?
[16:17] <aiena> moilo: i remember using xrandr to rotate the screen
[16:20] <aiena> moilo: try out https://askubuntu.com/questions/159086/rotate-only-one-screen
[16:21] <aiena> moilo: first run "xrandr" alone you will get a list of screens in this case you will get only 1 screen if its connected
[16:21] <aiena> then type  xrandr -o "SCREEN-NAME" --rotate left
[16:21] <aiena> to rotate it
[16:21] <aiena> where screen name is the name of the screen you got
[16:22] <moilo>  does this work with auto orientation, because when i flip the screen it flips automatically - only 90 degrees off
[16:22] <aiena> I dont think so but you could always put it in a shortcut file on the desktop
[16:22] <aiena> make 2 .sh file link them to shortcuts and run them when you panic
[16:23] <moldy> ok, turns out it probably has nothing to do with PrivateTmp. what i am seeing instead: after booting, i need to run ``sudo systemctl restart docker`` once, then my /tmp bind mounts work. without this, they don't. any idea why?
[16:23] <aiena> e.g. "reset rotation" , "rotate left", "rotate right", "rotate inverted"
[16:24] <mgedmin> aiena: I don't have rotating screens, but I _think_ the right fix is to update the rotation matrix in the hwdb for your specific hardware
[16:24] <mgedmin> aiena: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5160 is an example of a similar bug
[16:24] <aiena> mgedmin: I don't know anything about rotating screens tbh
[16:25] <aiena> i just use xrandr occassionally it seems his system has an orientation sensor too like phones
[16:25] <mgedmin> sorry that was supposed to go to moilo
[16:25] <moilo> tnx, that look like my problem
[16:28] <aiena> mgedmin: i only realised later he had a sensor. I thought he wanted to rotate a desktop screen
[16:28] <aiena> thanks to your post i learnt something new
[16:33] <ffejj> hi, anyone using scrcpy?  i get 'exception on thread' error when trying to connect to anbox (have not tried a real device yet, working remotely)
[17:04] <queuetip> running ubuntu 18.04: vimdiff command not found, can be installed by apt install vim... okay cool, apt install vim... 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 25 not upgraded.
[17:04] <queuetip> how can i install vimdiff ?
[17:06] <ioria> queuetip, have you installed vim ?
[17:07] <queuetip> ioria; apt install vim... 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 25 not upgraded.
[17:07] <queuetip> yes
[17:08] <ioria> queuetip, are you sure ? dpkg -l | grep vim
[17:08] <queuetip> i mean i'm using it currently
[17:08] <ioria> queuetip, vimdiff file1 file2
[17:08] <queuetip> yes i know the command
[17:09] <queuetip> i get: Command 'vimdiff' not found, but can be installed with: .. (list of vims)
[17:09] <ioria> queuetip, what's the problem ?
[17:09] <queuetip> vimdiff command not found is the problem
[17:09] <queuetip> when i have vim installed using apt
[17:10] <ioria> queuetip, which vimdiff
[17:10] <queuetip> i'm running into cicular logic here. vimdiff not found -> try installing vim (vim already installed but okay) apt install vim (nothing to install or upgrade)
[17:10] <queuetip> which vimdiff returns nothing because it's not installed
[17:11] <ioria> queuetip, update the system maybe; sudo update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:11] <queuetip> did that this morning already
[17:11] <queuetip> also
[17:11] <ioria> queuetip, nope ... 25 not upgraded
[17:11] <queuetip> whereis vimdiff shows /usr/bin/vimdiff but ls /usr/bin/vimdiff shows nothing
[17:12] <ioria> it's a link
[17:12] <ioria> queuetip, ll /usr/bin/vimdiff
[17:12] <queuetip> ah you're right i updated and didn't upgrade, doing that now to see if it fixes issue
[17:12] <queuetip> shows broken symlink
[17:13] <queuetip> to /etc/alternatives/vimdiff which shows broken symlink to vim.nox which apt install vim.nox shows already installed
[17:13] <ioria> queuetip, sudo update && sudo apt full-upgrade ; the sudo apt install --reinstall vim
[17:13] <queuetip> will try that next, thanks
[17:14] <hydroponx> Hi, can anyone point me to some documentation around running iscsi LUNs with masking enabled ? I have a synology lan that supports it and after some reading, it seems like something that is supported but I haven't found how to enable it on the client (ubuntu) side yet
[17:14] <hydroponx> san*
[17:15] <queuetip> ioria: thank you! reinstall did the trick after upgrade
[17:15] <ioria> queuetip, ok
[17:15] <JimBuntu> !cookie | ioria
[17:15] <ioria> lol
[17:15] <queuetip> though i did get some weird warnings FWIW during reinstall: update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/bin/vim.basic because link group vim is broken
[17:16]  * queuetip shrugs
[17:16] <ioria> queuetip, you probably installed multiple vim* pkgs
[17:16] <ioria> queuetip, dpkg -l | grep vim
[17:16] <ioria> queuetip, you should have 'just' 4 pkgs
[17:17] <queuetip> i have 5
[17:17] <ioria> queuetip, yep, *nox (i guess)
[17:17] <queuetip> vim, vim-common, vim-nox, vim-runtime, vim-tiny
[17:19] <ioria> queuetip, you can remove it or (if unlucky) purge them all and just reinstall 'vim'
[17:19] <ioria> queuetip, remove vim-nox i mean
[17:19] <queuetip> yeah i might just do that
[17:20] <ioria> queuetip, don't purge vim-common
[17:29] <letterrip> hi all - i got sysreq, but i don't get a terminal after doing sysreq+r followed by ctrl-alt-f1
[17:30] <letterrip> the sysreq+b definitely works though
[17:30] <letterrip> any ideas?
[17:35] <ioria> letterrip, mmm, what's the valu here ?  cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
[17:35] <ioria> *value
[17:35] <letterrip> ioria 176
[17:36] <ioria> letterrip, not sure , maybe you need to enable all the  corresponding functions : /etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf
[17:36] <letterrip> ioria ok will look thanks,
[17:38] <ioria> letterrip, you do some maths  in there
[17:39] <letterrip> it is currently empty, but reading up on it - the '1' apparently enables all possibilities
[17:40] <ioria> letterrip, 176 is the default value, that means only reboot-remount-sync commands
[17:40] <letterrip> ioria yepper
[17:42] <ioria> letterrip, if '1' is what you  want , then   echo "1" > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
[17:43] <letterrip> yep, but that doesn't work here for some reason...
[17:44] <ioria> letterrip, try with 438
[17:44] <letterrip> looks like the 176 doesn't enable 'unraw'
[17:44] <ioria> nope, i tld you
[17:45] <letterrip> right - didn't understand what you were telling me at the time :)
[17:45] <letterrip> ubuntu is doubley fun - sets the key combo as a screenshot; and disables one of the important parts of the combo
[17:46] <letterrip> for REISUB
[17:46] <letterrip> and apparently older versions of Ubuntu did allow it - so there is documents saying it works :)
[17:47] <ioria> !reisub
[17:48] <letterrip> and the ubottu documentation even tells us that it works :)
[17:49] <Ben64> can change it
[17:50] <ioria> letterrip, indeed it works (for reboot); some funcions are disabled for security reason
[17:50] <letterrip> ioria - doesn't work because it does 'screenshot' instead
[17:50] <letterrip> at least on some systems
[17:51] <ioria> letterrip, mmm, wrong tap timing
[17:52] <courrier> On Ubuntu server that has a static IP given by netplan, I temporary need a DHCP address so run dhclient enpxxxx which successfully ends up to "bound to <IP_ADDRESS>"... but then ifconfig still shows the old static IP, how come?
[18:00] <sarnold> courrier: if you want to unassign a static IP, you can do so with ip addr del ip.add.re.ss dev whatever
[18:06] <MrMobius> hi, I'm thinking about installing Ubuntu on my old Windows 7 laptop next year when support expires. would it be feasible to run a Windows 10 vm on it for things like compilers that havent been ported?
[18:07] <commanderK> which compilers?
[18:08] <MrMobius> commanderK, microcontroller and cpld related stuff. the atf150x cpld program is windows only for example
[18:08] <MrMobius> ie not games or video editing software
[18:09] <commanderK> of course you can run win10 in virtualbox
[18:10] <courrier> Thank you sarnold
[18:13] <sarnold> MrMobius: ought to work fine https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Guest_Support_Status#Windows_Family
[18:41] <ncuxo> Hello everyone
[18:42] <ncuxo> is there a way to get gui thru ssh
[18:42] <ncuxo> something like teamviewer vnc
[18:43] <hydroponx> ncuxo, XForwarding is probably the closest
[18:43] <ncuxo> I've tried ssh -X and ssh -Y
[18:43] <ncuxo> no luck still get a terminal
[18:44] <hydroponx> you'll start with a terminal, and have to launch the app you want
[18:44] <JimBuntu> ncuxo, a proper GUI, not really
[18:44] <ncuxo> hydroponx:  I start virt-manager and my vms are not there
[18:44] <ncuxo> JimBuntu:  so I should go the vnc and team viewer route ?
[18:45] <JimBuntu> ew, VNC or team viewer... but possibly, if you must
[18:45] <ncuxo> I was hoping to avoid them this is why I was trying to do it thru ssh
[18:46] <hydroponx> ncuxo, might try this article: https://fabianlee.org/2019/02/16/kvm-virt-manager-to-connect-to-a-remote-console-using-qemussh/
[18:46] <hydroponx> first hit in searching for using virtmanager remotely
[18:46] <hydroponx> seems believable
[18:46] <JimBuntu> ncuxo, You can run a program via X, in SSH, if you have that configured, but if you want total GUI, you'll neec VNC or something like that... but I can't imagine you would need complete GUI
[18:48] <ncuxo> JimBuntu:  I'm still learning linux and serves so I kinda wanna have the gui for back up
[18:50] <JimBuntu> ncuxo, Ok, might want to look into an XCFE desktop via VNC or such... but I can not really recommend any VNC. BTW: Rule #1, never use a default port
[18:50] <ncuxo> I have a monitor keyboard and mouse already connected to the server but I hate always moving hands from one keyboard to the other and vice versa
[18:50] <ncuxo> JimBuntu:  its a lan server
[18:51] <JimBuntu> ncuxo, Oh! If that's the reason... please check out symless.com !
[18:51] <compdoc> ncuxo, does it have a desktop nstalled?
[18:51] <ncuxo> I'm not that concern about security but probably you are right once I learn it insecure I'll probably set it up insecure
[18:52] <JimBuntu> ncuxo, Yeah, My concern was security... but check out the link I provided, i think it's EXACTLY what you need :)
[18:52] <ncuxo> compdoc: its a graphical ubuntu with kvm
[18:52] <ncuxo> so yes it has graphical interface
[18:52] <JimBuntu> ncuxo, Note: it's not supported in this channel, I don't think, as it's not part of Ubuntu nor do I think it has an Ubuntu package... but, way worth it and I doubt you'll need support anyway
[18:54] <compdoc> ncuxo, it the desktop is mate or one of the 2D desktops, then x2go server is excellent and copy/paste works between windows. sound too
[18:54] <compdoc> *if the desktop
[18:55] <ncuxo> I'll probably go the synergy route just that I have to move the desktop more central to the other monitors
[18:56] <donofrio_> does ubuntu have a aarch64 image for rpi4b as of yet?
[19:01] <donofrio_> I have it but it's only 32bit armhf ;( - http://paste.debian.net/1098602/
[19:04] <molinot> hi
[19:05] <EriC^> hello
[19:05] <JimBuntu> Hi EriC^ , do you have a support question? ;p
[19:05] <EriC^> haha :D
[19:15] <JonelethIrenicus> anyone know how to install a new harddrive in an xps 15 laptop
[19:15] <JonelethIrenicus> for some reason it isn't showing in ubuntu
[19:16] <hydroponx> what's the "right way" to use a standalone wireless NIC as a bridged interface? when i set it up in network manager and define it as the bridge device in /etc/network/interface, it doesn't come up anymore and network manager refuses to manage it
[19:24] <sarnold> hydroponx: with bridges you assign ip addresses to the bridge, not to any interfaces on the bridge
[19:35] <hydroponx> sarnold, correct, but i need the interface at least up for KVM to interact with it
[19:36] <hydroponx> guessing I'll need to use wpa_supplicant to bring up the interface?
[19:36] <sarnold> hydroponx: yeah I think wpa_supplicant is required if you want to participate in wpa or wpa2 networks
[19:37] <sarnold> hydroponx: also take a look at hostapd -- I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but this package is often used by folks doing funny wireless things
[19:38] <hydroponx> oh, i built a new pc... it has wired and wireless NICs, plan was to use the wireless for my VMs and Wired for me :)
[19:38] <sarnold> aha :D nice
[19:41] <olabaz> Hi, ever since I upgraded to 19.04 I've been getting random freezes. For example when I open up terminal it'll freeze for lke 2 seconds or when I try to switch tabs on firefox it'll freeze.
[19:41] <olabaz> Any ideas what's causing this?
[19:46] <sarnold> olabaz: start up 'vmstat 1' in another terminal and look at the output when you notice these freezes
[19:47] <olabaz> sarnold: how do I read that output
[19:48] <olabaz> I'm noticing a spike in bi column it seems
[19:48] <sarnold> olabaz: the bi column is 'block in
[19:48] <sarnold> olabaz: how about si and so?
[19:48] <sarnold> those are swap in and swap out
[19:49] <olabaz> those are both constant 0
[19:51] <sarnold> alright, interesting.. I wonder if you're under enough memory pressure to need to re-read executables and libraries from disk, but not enough memory pressure to push data to disk
[19:52] <olabaz> sarnold:I only have 2 windows open so I'm not doing anything particularly intensive
[19:53] <olabaz> I just updated my graphics driver too but didn't see any changes
[19:56] <flog> Got ubuntu installed on my lenovo t495. needed to create a bash-script to control the brightness. The issue is that i need to run the script as root. How would i go about to be able to execute the script without beeing prompted the root password?
[20:00] <renn0xtk9> I have download the image of ubuntuu arm64 server from cloud image
[20:00] <renn0xtk9> but I cannot login
[20:01] <renn0xtk9> this is my cloud.txt
[20:01] <renn0xtk9> https://pastebin.com/kbcYVRue
[20:01] <renn0xtk9> anyone can help me ?
[20:03] <sarnold> renn0xtk9: are you sure about your -default thing? it looks a bit different from this example https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/examples.html
[20:08] <renn0xtk9> sarnold: no indeed, let me retry with just default.   The user name and password should then both be ubuntu right?
[20:10] <sarnold> renn0xtk9: I think so, yes
[20:29] <xuvatilavv> I'm running Ubuntu 19.04 on a Surface Pro 4 and a few days ago I started having an issue with screen jitter where the entire image seems to move up and down a few pixels every frame
[20:29] <xuvatilavv> my install is pretty fresh, maybe 1-2 weeks old
[20:29] <xuvatilavv> it goes away when I move the mouse, but sometimes comes back after less than a second
[20:30] <xuvatilavv> and it seems to be progressively worse the longer the system's been running
[20:31] <xuvatilavv> I'm not sure where to start looking to fix it
[20:50] <xebra> hi, my battery indicator shows "57%, charging", but it's stuck there
[20:51] <renn0xtk9> sarnold:  hmm not it does not work :S
[20:51] <sarnold> renn0xtk9: hmm :(
[20:51] <choon> it is possible to use dns over tls in ubuntu ?
[20:55] <choon> I would like to use DNS over TLS in systemd
[20:55] <choon> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-resolved#DNS_over_TLS
[20:55] <choon> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/10755
[20:56] <choon> will it be available to ubuntu ?
[20:57] <choon> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/10755
[20:58] <choon> looks like the current version for ubuntu is systemd 237
[20:58] <sarnold> choon: disco has systemd 240, perhaps it works there? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd
[20:59] <choon> sarnold: but i prefer 18.04 LTS
[20:59] <sarnold> choon: you could try a different dns tool then, perhaps https://dnsdist.org/guides/dns-over-tls.html ?
[21:00] <choon> i've actually tried stubby but i would like to use it with systemd
[21:03] <choon> i mean it is 2019, dns over tls should be the new "standard" or how to say
[21:04] <Sven_vB> one of my cronjobs on xenial complains, what's the problem? /etc/cron.daily/logrotate:¶ smbd.service is not active, cannot reload.¶ error: error running non-shared postrotate script for /var/log/samba/log.smbd of '/var/log/samba/log.smbd '¶ run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exited with return code 1"
[21:05] <Sven_vB> shouldn't log rotation work rather independent of whether the daemon runs?
[21:05] <Sven_vB> why would it even try to reload the daemon?
[21:06] <Sven_vB> oh, maybe to ensure it starts a new log file
[21:06] <Sven_vB> ah I see it's a known bug
[21:07] <Sven_vB> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=838796
[21:08] <Sven_vB> looks like they fixed it Mon, 10 Oct 2016 22:23:45 +0200 with samba 2:4.4.6+dfsg-1, I'll check my version
[21:09] <Sven_vB> I still have 2:4.3.11+dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> :(
[21:10] <Sven_vB> !package samba
[21:11] <Sven_vB> !info samba xenial
[21:12] <Sven_vB> I guess I should use a samba PPA then
[21:13] <Sven_vB> any chance we can get a newer samba in regular xenial soon?
[21:14] <Habbie> Sven_vB, in general, released ubuntus only get security fixes and serious bugfixes for most packages
[21:14] <Habbie> Sven_vB, 'complete upgrades' of packages are uncommon
[21:15] <Sven_vB> Habbie, thanks!
[21:17] <Sven_vB> is there a way to check whether this PPA's packages are managed/signed by the same people who supply my current ( = xenial's defaul) samba?
[21:17] <Sven_vB> https://launchpad.net/~samba-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[21:18] <Sven_vB> do the Ubuntu mirrors even use author's signatures for packages, or are all of them signed only by the Ubuntu repo maintainers?
[21:19] <Sven_vB> also I wonder why the samba team hosts a wireshark.
[21:21] <Sven_vB> that PPA won't do anyway, it only goes up to precise.
[21:26] <choon> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+question/683624
[21:31] <Sven_vB> is there a way to make apt use the debian mirrors just for samba and its dependencies?
[21:35] <flog> I need to add a script to the sudoers file to be able to execute it without being prompted for password. How do I do that?
[21:36] <bdonnahue> hey all. I am installing ubuntu and very new to it. I am tyring to apt-get install openssh-server and it is asking me for a cdrom
[21:36] <bdonnahue> can i not install this without a cd?
[21:37] <Bashing-om> Sven_vB: While possible : https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian <- Advice For New Users On Not Breaking Their Debian System - Don't - just don't :)
[21:38] <Sven_vB> Bashing-om, thanks.
[21:38] <Sven_vB> I guess I'll just unmask samba for now
[21:38] <Bashing-om> bdonnahue: Is the CD Rom enabled in the software center ? You no longer ned that source enabled.
[21:38] <bdonnahue> Bashing-om, no clue... consulting google
[21:40] <Bashing-om> bdonnahue: I do not run your desktop version (FUI) - I can guide you terminally if you are so minded :P
[21:40] <Bashing-om> GUI*
[21:40] <bdonnahue> Bashing-om, im running the server iso... terminal would be great!
[21:42] <Bashing-om> bdonnahue: Sources are in 2 directories: /etc/apt/sources.list, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/. The CD will be in ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ' .
[21:44] <Sven_vB> flog, step 1, make sure your script is somewhat secure. ;) then ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/your-script
[21:44] <Sven_vB> flog, not sure whether this syntax allows any arguments being passed. I think it's verbatim i.e. no arguments allowed.
[21:45] <flog> Sven_vB: i need to pass arguments though.
[21:45] <Sven_vB> flog, man sudoers might know how
[21:45] <flog> The script is to change the backlight on my ryzen based laptop.
[21:46] <Sven_vB> flog, are you sure you need root for that? maybe xrandr? or change permissions on some file in /sys?
[21:46] <Sven_vB> or even xbacklight?
[21:46] <flog> xbacklight dont work with ryzen based gpus.
[21:46] <bdonnahue> Bashing-om, there is only one line in the file
[21:46] <flog> As far as i know.
[21:46] <bdonnahue> i commented it out but now I cant install anything
[21:47] <flog> Im trying to do this is i3wm. In the default desktop environment(i assume gnome) the keys work.
[21:47] <flog> I've tested my script and it works if i run it as root.
[21:47] <Bashing-om> bdonnahue: NOoooo ! really ? I think you best pastebin
[21:47] <flog> Sven_vB: https://pastebin.com/mrALU7qE
[21:47] <bdonnahue> Bashing-om, cant get ssh... cant copy pate through xcp-ng console
[21:48] <Bashing-om>   /etc/apt/sources.list, And then I show you my working stripped down file.
[21:48] <Sven_vB> flog, in case you don't find in the man pages how to pass args, I'd have ideas for how to do it with a service instead of sudo.
[21:49] <Sven_vB> flog, your sudo in "sudo echo $SET_BRIGHTNESS > /sys/class/backlight/amdgpu_bl0/brightness" is useless because it only affects the echo, not the file redirect.
[21:49] <flog> even better would probably be to find what the default desktop environent executes when pressing the screen brightness buttons.
[21:49] <Sven_vB> flog, try giving your user group access to the file instead
[21:49] <Sven_vB> indeed. which DE do you use?
[21:49] <flog> im using i3.
[21:50] <Sven_vB> ah ok, then you probably know how to configure its shortcuts.
[21:50] <Bashing-om> bdonnahue: Here is my file: https://termbin.com/a4u1 , Stripped down bare bones for my use case.
[21:50] <Sven_vB> oh, you mean "default" DE as in not your setup?
[21:51] <flog> I did a standard ubuntu install and installed i3 afterwards. So the loginscreen is still the same as standard ubuntu.
[21:51] <flog> So i can choose between ubuntu and i3 when i login.
[21:52] <Sven_vB> flog, anyway, I think it'S probably way easier to just adjust file permissions for /sys/class/backlight/amdgpu_bl0{actual_,}/brightness . if you're lucky it will even persist accross reboots.
[21:52] <flog> I dont think i need to change the permissions for actual_brightness since i can read it without sudo.
[21:53] <Sven_vB> oh right
[21:53] <flog> simple chmod 755 on the file?
[21:54] <Sven_vB> depends on how likely other people on your network will want to troll you. ;) the secure way would be to assign them to a group of who should be allowed, then set 0775
[21:54] <Sven_vB> see man chmod for why to never omit the 0
[21:56] <Sven_vB> actually why would that be exccutable? 0664 should be enough
[21:56] <flog> sorry about that.
[21:56] <flog> no i guses it wont need to be executable just writable
[21:57] <Sven_vB> no need to be sorry, I wouldn't have been affected anyway. :P
[21:58] <flog> hm even with 0644 i get permission denied.
[21:59] <ChiLLabiS> chown user:user /path/to/file?
[21:59] <DMzCas> hello...im trying to lear how to compile a software from source...just to know that..im using pidgin to do this
[21:59] <DMzCas> the ./configure runs ok
[21:59] <flog> ChiLLabiS: dont i want to keep the file owned by root?
[21:59] <DMzCas> but the make returns a lot of error
[21:59] <DMzCas> can somebody help me with this?
[22:01] <ChiLLabiS> flog: you can write your username there not root
[22:03] <flog> ChiLLabiS: but is it really correct to change owner of a sys file for this?
[22:04] <ChiLLabiS> That's for someone else to answer i dont know
[22:04] <Sven_vB> flog, you need to set the middle digit (group) to 6 as well, or use symbolic permissions (g+w), and you need to be logged in as a member of that group. (i.e. have been a member of that group when you logged in.)
[22:05] <Sven_vB> flog, if you added yourself recently, it might work starting next time you log in.
[22:05] <Sven_vB> flog, I'd keep the owner and change just the group.
[22:10] <flog> changing the group on the "brightness"-file does allow my script to run without sudo.
[22:11] <Sven_vB> DMzCas, https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Installing%20Pidgin#WhycantIcompilePidgin
[22:11] <Sven_vB> "Why can't I compile Pidgin?"
[22:11] <choon> can someone explain to me why ubuntu 18.04 use systemd 237 when systemd 243 is out? https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/NEWS
[22:12] <DMzCas> Sven_vB, thanks man!
[22:12] <Bashing-om> !latest | choon
[22:12] <choon> !backports
[22:13] <choon> !ppa
[22:13] <flog> Sven_vB:was just beeing fooled by the terminal remembering the password from last time.
[22:14] <Sven_vB> choon, probably same reason why my samba is so old: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/09/03/%23ubuntu.html#t21:14
[22:16] <choon> okay, thanks. But I really want to use DNS over TLS, maybe i have to switch to arch linux...
[22:19] <tomreyn> choon: there are other ways to use it, not just systemd doing it directly.
[22:23] <choon> okay, i'm using it with stubby on my other computer already but I would love to use it in systemd one day.. I really likes ubuntu
[22:23] <lakitu> here's a question maybe more explored by women, at least (stereo)typically: on my android tablet, i have several photo editors which do pretty well for touch ups... a lot is automated & its easy & works surprisingly well. does linux have anything like this - the 'new gen' of especially-personal-shot photo editors?
[22:24] <tomreyn> choon: so that's most likely just a matter of time + upgrading. as soon as you're on an ubuntu release which comes with a systemd version recent enough to support it, you should be good.
[22:28] <tomreyn> lakitu: the shotwell image gallery can do the most basic things: https://i.stack.imgur.com/qTsfT.jpg
[22:28] <flog> Sven_vB: got it to work. removed sudo inside my script and changed the user group for the brightness file to my users group.
[22:28] <Sven_vB> flog, grats!
[22:30] <flog> i do feel a bit proud. first bash-script ever and havent used linux the last 15 years :)
[22:33] <lakitu> tomreyn: anything for face, etc?
[22:34] <ChiLLabiS> !cookie | Sven_vB
[22:37] <tomreyn> lakitu: i think there are only those effects you can seeon the bottom of the screenshot i posted. if you want more you'd probably need to go for gimp already.
[22:38] <lakitu> i'm kind of discussing this in another room, & i'll say it here: there's new gen of photo editors, e.g on android, that let you touch up your face, rather than just do a fish lens or red hue
[22:39] <lakitu> i'd love to find one for linux, or if there isn't, then free idea to make some/one
[22:42] <lakitu> linux face touch-up apps would help bring the female element to linux too, one might think
[22:42] <tomreyn> !discuss
[22:46] <lakitu> thanks tomreyn
[23:05] <hypercore> what's the best version of ubuntu for hosting apps?
[23:07] <sarnold> usually the latest LTS release is a good choice but sometimes apps won't have been updated for eg the version of php in the latest LTS..
[23:07] <sarnold> talk with your app vendors to find out what requirements they may have
[23:08] <hypercore> 19.04?
[23:09] <hypercore> i'm talking generally speaking, i.e. trying to figure out which version i default to when starting a new vps for self-hosting software
[23:09] <sarnold> 18.04
[23:09] <sarnold> the LTS releases are almost always (even year).04
[23:09] <hypercore> great, thank you
[23:11] <JonelethIrenicus> can you connect a business exchange account to "online accounts"
[23:16] <matlock> 18.04 and then add a free ubuntu livepatch account
[23:40] <JonelethIrenicus> i just installed a fresh version of 19.04 and it doesn't have ifconfig by default?
[23:41] <sarnold> the iproute2 package has supplanted the old ifconfig tool
[23:41] <sarnold> you can still install and use ifconfig if absolutely necessary but it's best to learn how to use the new tool to manage the network, as there's a lot that ifconfig can't do
[23:44] <B|ack0p> hi. i replaced bluetooth device on my laptop. but now ubuntu shows in bluetooth setting 2 unknown devices i had paired with previous bluetooth card.
[23:45] <B|ack0p> how can i remove those paired 2 unknow bluetooth devices in ubuntu bluetooth settings?
[23:48] <B|ack0p> here is the screenshot: https://i.postimg.cc/q7ZVN5N7/Screenshot-from-2019-09-04-02-47-05.png
[23:53] <sarnold> can you click on them or get actions? or can you right-click on them and see actions?
[23:54] <B|ack0p> sarnold: no they are not clickable..
[23:54] <B|ack0p> that s why i ask here
[23:55] <B|ack0p> also i tried bluetoothctl in terminal and tried to remove them but even i remove they appear in the list again
[23:55] <sarnold> are those perhaps devices in the environment?
[23:56] <B|ack0p> sarnold:  you mean in nearby?
[23:56] <sarnold> yeah
[23:56] <B|ack0p> hmm let me check
[23:57] <B|ack0p> one was bt speaker
[23:57] <B|ack0p> other bt mouse
[23:57] <B|ack0p> speaker is turned off
[23:58] <B|ack0p> mouse also turned off
[23:59] <B|ack0p> i paired mouse again but 2 unknown devices still in the list


[00:37] <rick_h> wallyworld: or thumper either of you have a few to chat?
[00:38] <wallyworld> sure
[00:38] <rick_h> https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/rick?authuser=1wallyworld:
[00:38] <rick_h> bah
[00:38] <rick_h> wallyworld: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/rick?authuser=1
[00:45] <wallyworld> thumper: are you free to pop into chat above?
[01:09] <axw> babbageclunk: back from school drop off. what did you want to know about GCE networking specifically?
[01:10] <axw> babbageclunk: I think I may have poked around the edges before, so *may* be able ot answer questions
[01:25] <babbageclunk> axw: hi! I'm just trying to understand how GCE's networking compares to what we have
[01:27] <thumper> wallyworld: I'm around now
[01:27] <wallyworld> thumper: tis ok, we can chat in a bit
[01:33] <babbageclunk> axw: actually, I'm having trouble formulating specific questions now - I need to get things a bit clearer in my head.
[01:40] <babbageclunk> axw: ok, one specific question - GCE subnets are tied to a region and span all the AZs for that region. Should the SubnetInfos I return from gceEnviron.Subnets() have all of the AZs for a region? Or should AvailabilityZones be empty?
[01:41] <axw> babbageclunk: yeah sorry, no idea about that. that's probably a question for jam
[01:42] <babbageclunk> axw: :) ah well - I'm just going to pick one for now and then talk to him about it on Monday.
[01:42] <axw> babbageclunk: based on the docs for SubnetInfo, I'd fill them all in. but I don't know for sure
[01:43] <axw> babbageclunk: I *think* we use that to constrain which AZs to choose from when starting the instance
[01:43] <babbageclunk> axw: ah, ok.
[01:46] <babbageclunk> axw: I think that's the kind of information I really need, actually
[01:46] <axw> okey dokey
[01:48] <babbageclunk> axw: thanks!
[01:48] <axw> babbageclunk: np
[01:58] <rick_h> thumper: still around?
[01:58]  * rick_h checks in one more time before bed
[02:01] <rick_h> thumper: nvm, I see you sent me an email. ty
[02:13] <sinzui> babbageclunk: signup using your  canonical email and register a credit card. The expenses wont be much for the occassional testing
[02:13] <babbageclunk> Ah, ok
[02:13] <babbageclunk> thanks sinzui
[02:13] <sinzui> babbageclunk: also, you can request a raise in limits from the quota page, you might not needed.
[02:14]  * babbageclunk should really sort out an NZ credit card anyway.
[02:14] <sinzui> babbageclunk: Happy to think you are protecting my firewalls. ses deleeted them all one day in December because he thought GCE would ignore requests to delete firwalls that were in use.
[02:14] <babbageclunk> sinzui: oh ouch!
[06:57] <pranav_> Hi Folks. Facing an issue publishing our charm for review
[06:57] <pranav_> # charm release cs:~vtas-hyperscale-ci/hyperscale-0 --resource "install/-1" --channel edge ERROR cannot release charm or bundle: bad request: charm published with incorrect resources: charm does not have resource "install/"
[08:54] <Guest50267> Hey all. Any one has idea on charm push-term? [14:24] <Guest50267> getting error ERROR unrecognized command: charm push-term [14:24] <Guest50267> charm version is 2.2.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.
[16:06] <psarwate> Hey folks. Need help getting juju terms working
[16:07] <psarwate> juju doesn't seem to prompt for agreeing terms
[16:46] <mattyw> perrito666, you still around?
[16:46] <perrito666> mattyw: hey, yes, sorry I was not watching this channel
[16:47] <mattyw> perrito666, unforgivable, as punishment here's a review you can do :) https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7120
[16:47] <mattyw> :)
[16:47] <perrito666> mattyw: I am curious, what is the number on your branch names?
[16:48] <mattyw> perrito666, I number my branches, so I have a concept of the order I've done them in
[16:48] <perrito666> interesting idea
[16:48] <mattyw> perrito666, but the number resets at random intervals
[16:49] <mattyw> perrito666, and isn't always sequential
[16:49] <mattyw> perrito666, it's fairly ad hoc
[16:50] <perrito666> 16 files change :p
[16:52] <mattyw> perrito666, most of it is fairly trivial