[08:26] <cesar_> i second cinvoke's question, i'd really liek to find something decent
[08:26] <magnetron> cinvoke: eclipse is good
[08:26] <weltall> eclipse it's good
[08:26] <cesar_> does eclipse work with c++?
[08:26] <weltall> is*
[08:26] <Zambezi> Anyone from China here? Or know the language?
[08:26] <magnetron> cesar_: yes
[08:26] <pagan0ne> soulwinter: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/02/06/install-beryl-on-ubuntu-feisty-with-aiglx-for-nvidia-ubuntu-704/
[08:26] <weltall> it works with almost everything
[08:27] <cesar_> when i click new project all it says is java this and java that
[08:27] <cesar_> what do i do about c
[08:27] <magnetron> !zh | Zambezi
[08:27] <ubotu> Zambezi: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[08:27] <weltall> you need to install it's extensions
[08:27] <cesar_> and how is that done
[08:27] <cinvoke> is eclipse a full gui like jgrasp, or is it more like emacs?
[08:27] <Zambezi> magnetron, I need to track a packages I ordered from China. :-P
[08:27] <Xenguy> cinvoke: the guys at work use Eclipse for Java ...
[08:27] <soulwinter> pagan0ne: ill take a look, but i guess i did it right cuz i read a tutorial on the official german ubuntu wiki :S
[08:27] <weltall> well i did it years ago so i don't remember right now i'm using kdevelop
[08:27] <soulwinter> pagan0ne: thanks anyway dude
[08:27] <pagan0ne> soulwinter: i left out the line load "dbe" and it works finr for me, i had trouble when i added it
[08:28] <Xenguy> cinvoke: not sure if it works for C+ also
[08:28] <Icehawk78> Is there a program for reading/parsing the data in a binary file that comes with or is available for Ubuntu on the command line?
[08:28] <magnetron> cesar_: there is some plugins, you can install them with synaptic. they are called CDT something
[08:28] <cinvoke> Xenguy: thanks for info, ill try it out
[08:28] <pagan0ne> soulwinter: well i try, im no guru like the rest of them here, just another luser with a problem i cant solve :D
[08:28] <weltall> http://www.eclipse.org/cdt/
[08:28] <yigal> eclipse-cdt this seems to be the right package for C++
[08:29] <alienseer23> if an installation is interupted, is there a way to pick up where it left off, or is it best to just restart it?
[08:29] <Lapinux> if someone wanted to edit the kernel list in grub wouldnt they modify /boot/grub/menu.1st ?
[08:29] <Zenerek> lol tell me about it i got 4 probs myself
[08:29] <magnetron> cesar_: aptitude install eclipse-cdtr
[08:29] <yigal> alienseer23: it depends
[08:29] <magnetron> cesar_: aptitude install eclipse-cdt*
[08:29] <yigal> aptitude install eclipse-cdt
[08:29] <cesar_> thank you *
[08:29] <haggard> Icehawk78: cat -v binary_file will safely display binary files
[08:30] <cesar_> anyone here do Qt development?
[08:30] <sjck> Moin. :)
[08:30] <yigal> cesar_: probably not because we are using ubuntu
[08:30] <Madpilot> cesar_, you might have better luck in #kubuntu for Qt questions
[08:30] <cesar_> whats the equivalent for ubuntu?
[08:31] <Icehawk78> haggard - is there a similar escpe for using differ on it?
[08:31] <Madpilot> cesar_, GTK
[08:31] <soulwinter> pagan0ne: this is exactly the way ive done it. btw whats ur problem? :p
[08:31] <haggard> Icehawk78: I'm not sure
[08:32] <weltall> i've a strange problem with nfs altough the lines for / and /media/hdb1 (i need to mount a partition on my hd from nfs) are the same (http://rafb.net/p/8RMS1B49.html) i can't get it to mount /media/hdb1 i just get access denied, while mounting / works but i can't get on those partitions
[08:32] <pagan0ne> soulwinter: im trying to compile kiba-dock for my amd64 kernel, and im hung at a dependency for gnome-desktop-2.0 , i have installed all packages that refer to either gnome or desktop, and no luck
[08:32] <Icehawk78> Hmm... I'm trying to compare two binary files that should be almost identical, in order to find the difference between them.
[08:32] <weltall> oh it's /media/hdb1 not /media/sdb1
[08:32] <yigal> Icehawk78: diff doesn't work?
[08:33] <gamecheif> man can anyone help me with this rar file
[08:33] <pagan0ne> soulwinter: i think i just got it solved... i needed to install gnome-desktop-dev
[08:33] <yigal> gamecheif: depends on what you want to do with it
[08:33] <Icehawk78> I tried just catting the binary into a text file, and running diff on those, but it cam back with almost everything as beig different. And running diff on the binaries just gives the shortened version
[08:33] <v3n0m`> gamecheif: how so?
[08:33] <weltall> unrar x rarfile
[08:34] <gamecheif> i have this unrare file
[08:34] <yigal> Icehawk78: when you look at the files initially they appear identical
[08:34] <yigal> Icehawk78: ?
[08:34] <gamecheif> it wont unrar in the terminal it says it doesnt exist
[08:34] <hgh> I had a folder with all my music on an ntfs partition and moved it to an ext3 partition which messed up the filenames so I got convmv and converted them to utf-8 but now it's just wrong in another way.  for example is  is there any way to automatically replace all the  with  and so on for  and  too?
[08:34] <weltall> were did you put unrar?
[08:34] <gamecheif> uh i didnt
[08:34] <gamecheif> i did the syntax in the unrar
[08:35] <gamecheif> in the terminal
[08:35] <Icehawk78> yigal - I know what is in the two files, so I would think that they *should* be almost identical. They are too large right now for me to be able to tell if they actually are or not.
[08:35] <weltall> ?
[08:35] <gamecheif> and it installed itself
[08:35] <weltall> maybe it said how to install it
[08:35] <Ausylo> HardDisk: not seeing it
[08:35] <yigal> Icehawk78: but did you actually open a text browser and view the .bin files?
[08:35] <cesar_> whats a perspective
[08:35] <yigal> Icehawk78: it could help?
[08:36] <pagan0ne> gamecheif: download the rar file to your drive, in terminal, navigate to the location of the rar file, unrar -e FiLe-NaMe-Is-CaSe-SenSiTiVe
[08:36] <gamecheif> Cannot open ccb.rar
[08:36] <gamecheif> No such file or directory
[08:36] <gamecheif> No files to extract
[08:36] <weltall> ah well
[08:36] <weltall> then it's another problem
[08:36] <gamecheif> how do i navigate to it
[08:36] <weltall> cd dir
[08:36] <yigal> gamecheif: all you need to do is "unrar -e "a few letters" <tab><tab>" for autocompletion
[08:36] <Madpilot> gamecheif, is it "ccb.rar", or CCb.rar, or what? Case matters in Linux
[08:37] <pagan0ne> game cd /home/MyUser/WhereTheFileIs
[08:37] <Naisenu> weltall, What was the name of the vb package ... now that i'm in ubuntu again
[08:37] <gamecheif> ccb.rar
[08:37] <pagan0ne> gamecheif:  cd /home/MyUser/WhereTheFileIs
[08:37] <yigal> gamecheif: if you use unrar you should be able to use bash completion
[08:37] <Icehawk78> yigal - I suppose that could be an issue. The files don't appear to be the same at all when I just vi them.
[08:37] <Zenerek> gamecheif: i use winrar via wine
[08:37] <P_Kable> Hi there
[08:37] <gamecheif> ok
[08:37] <gamecheif> the file is on my desktop
[08:38] <P_Kable> is there a log of all the commands typed in the console ?
[08:38] <gamecheif> ok
[08:38] <gamecheif> see the thing with wine
[08:38] <yigal> Icehawk78: yes, they do the same thing but were built with different parameters or something else like this
[08:38] <gamecheif> i cant pt any thing on the partcian where unbuntu is
[08:38] <yigal> Icehawk78: well there you go, what do you really want to do by comparing them?
[08:38] <Icehawk78> I would have thought they were built differently unless they are encrypted.
[08:38] <gamecheif> i have c and z particians
[08:38] <Madpilot> gamecheif, if you've got the unrar package installed, just double-click on the rar file, that should open the archive-manager
[08:38] <weltall> copy http://www.ascentive.com/support/new/images/lib/COMDLG32.OCX and http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvbvm60 in the folder of the app
[08:38] <weltall> and you are done
[08:38] <yigal> Icehawk78: I mean what is your final goal?
[08:39] <pagan0ne> gamecheif: are you loaded into ubuntu right now? or are you in windows? have you installed ubuntu to disk yet? or are you still running off the live-cd?
[08:39] <gamecheif> see the fiile is windows
[08:39] <gamecheif> i renamed it to ccb.rar
[08:39] <gamecheif> i accidently copied over eindows
[08:39] <gamecheif> all my files are gone
[08:40] <yigal> gamecheif: well that should not be a problem unrar might choke but other than that not much
[08:40] <Zenerek> anyway i use winrar via wine because i have some password protected files and have not been able to get the file roller to input the password and unlock them
[08:40] <pagan0ne> gamecheif: im not sure what you did, but it sounds like you hoased your windows system
[08:40] <gamecheif> yeah i did
[08:40] <Icehawk78> Basically, I was hoping to be able to understand the structure in order to be able to manipulate the information in the file, without knowing how the file is specifically written in the first place. It's a file created by a gaming system, and I was hoping to be able to edit it. It would appear that I'm simply out of my depth right now.
[08:40] <gamecheif> but i had a boot cd
[08:41] <gamecheif> and i think it created a partcian rivw
[08:41] <yigal> Icehawk78: as a beginning I would ask how large of a bin file are we talking about?
[08:42] <Icehawk78> It's 100 kb, almost exactly
[08:42] <Zenerek> ***pagan0ne so you found the file?
[08:42] <yigal> Icehawk78: that is quite large to analyze in any meaningful way unless you know what you are looking for.
[08:42] <pagan0ne> gamecheif: i dont mean to sound insulting, but it sounds like you would be better off taking your computer to a professional to fix it for you, unless you want to reformat and install windows or Ubuntu from scratch
[08:42] <cesar_> does gtk have a socket toolkit?
[08:42] <pagan0ne> Zenerek: yeah, it works
[08:42] <v3n0m`> you can use sudo apt-get install p7zip p7zip-full
[08:42] <Icehawk78> yigal - And to make matters worse, I have just found the file the files *are* encrypted, too.
[08:43] <gamecheif> i wanted to do that
[08:43] <cesar_> err utility library
[08:43] <gamecheif> reformat
[08:43] <gamecheif> i have nothing to loose
[08:43] <gamecheif> this is why
[08:43] <Zenerek> great, if only my probs were so easy
[08:43] <gamecheif> im trying to unrar this file
[08:43] <yigal> Icehawk78: well, that will make a difference :).  I imagine you don't know what kind of encryption :)
[08:43] <pagan0ne> Zenerek: whats your problem?
[08:43] <gamecheif> its windows xp home
[08:43] <Icehawk78> yigar: Nope. I suppose that might be a minor roadblock ;-)
[08:44] <v3n0m`> gamecheif: were you able to open the file?
[08:44] <gamecheif> no
[08:44] <gamecheif> still cant
[08:44] <gamecheif> dont know what wrong
[08:44] <gamecheif> i have unrar installed
[08:44] <yigal> Icehawk78: are you trying to get wine to use it?
[08:44] <Zenerek> ***pagan0ne let's start with #1 trying to install ubuntu on a second machine with a promise fasttrak tx2000, prob is it sees the raid 0 array as two drives
[08:44] <niuq> how can i know if my name it is registered?
[08:45] <niuq> i just tried to, not sure if i did it
[08:45] <pagan0ne> gamecheif: if your running off the ubuntu live cd, then you'll need to install ubuntu to disc first before you can unrar the file, if your not then what are you currently running?
[08:45] <pagan0ne> Zenerek: yeah i overheard that, and quietly slid past as thats way above me
[08:45] <geet> hello, i have a simple question. how can i create a very large empty file rather quickly? dd works but is slow. i notice some programs like VirtualBox can create 4 GB files instantly, how are they doing this?
[08:45] <yigal> pagan0ne: why do you say that, this is not true, he needs free disk space not necessarily to install on the hd?
[08:45] <gamecheif> i have installed unbuntu in hdd i installed it over windows im trying to get windows back i dont have a windows cd
[08:46] <void^> geet: use dds seek option
[08:46] <yigal> gamecheif: what do you mean "over windows"?
[08:46] <gamecheif> like
[08:46] <gamecheif> i installed look
[08:46] <gamecheif> ill show you
[08:46] <Zenerek> ***pagan0ne hahahah, yeah i've beein asking on this channel for awhile now, # 2 i updated my dapper install the other day, it killed opera, i can get it to work again
[08:46] <pagan0ne> yigal: if he's running off livecd, and has downloaded the file, his virtual disk is about full, and in my expirence ubuntu livecd doesnt like dealing with large files
[08:46] <slackmagic> gamecheif: mind if I pm you?
[08:46] <niuq> how can i know if my nick it's registered?
[08:46] <RoC_MM> gamecheif, take the system offline...any time it is running you will be decreasing your chances of recovering files.
[08:46] <Icehawk78> yigal: I'm not sure I understand your question regarding wine
[08:47] <HorizonXP> hey guys
[08:47] <RoC_MM> gamecheif, you won't be able to recover a working windows install..but you will be able to recover some files.
[08:47] <gamecheif> ok
[08:47] <HorizonXP> i ordered a dell inspiron 640m that should be coming this week
[08:47] <gamecheif> i have this boot cd
[08:47] <yigal> pagan0ne: It really depends on ram, on my 512mb ram machine yes on a 2gb creature not necessarily ?
[08:47] <HorizonXP> it's gonna have a Core 2 Duo T7200
[08:47] <pagan0ne> Zenerek: well MY answer to that would be to get firefox :D
[08:47] <punsad> which packages to install to play mp3?
[08:47] <HorizonXP> my question is, how does linux handle multiple cores? will it be significantly better?
[08:47] <gamecheif> that i dl'ed today it particaned a c drive with windows system 32
[08:48] <HorizonXP> also, does Ubuntu have good 64-bit support?
[08:48] <bayziders> For some reason I don't have my progress bar when I boot and shut down. How do I get it back?
[08:48] <yigal> Icehawk78: what are you trying to do with the bin, if you feel uncomfortable telling me don't worry about it but it might make the whole process easier
[08:48] <pagan0ne> yigal: i am running w/ 4Gb ram, and i had trouble downloading winxp pro, unzipping it (1.4 ish GB between the zip and the iso
[08:48] <Zenerek> ***pagan0ne no offense to firefox, but opera is smaller(so they say) and more powefull, it's my fave
[08:48] <niuq> how can i write over my ntfs partition?
[08:48] <Ausylo> what do you guys recommend, 6.06 LTS or 7.04 ?
[08:48] <bayziders> 7.04
[08:48] <pagan0ne> Zenerek: i know, thats my way of saying that i cant help ya there either
[08:48] <yigal> pagan0ne: yes, I agree this is a lot of for 4gb of ram
[08:48] <Lapinux> i accidently had "prerealease" updates selected and it hosed my system, so i went back to an old kernel, removed the entry from grub and am using an old kernel that works, i've since uncheck the "prerelease" updates box and want to update my sytem agian but its telling me im up to date.. what do i need to do to get it to update?
[08:48] <Ausylo> whats the major difference
[08:48] <punsad> which packages to install to play mp3?
[08:49] <Madpilot> ubotu, mp3 | punsad
[08:49] <ubotu> punsad: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:49] <RoC_MM> Ausylo, the LTS release is for people who don't want or need the latest and greatest...it will be around and supported for a while...if you just want the regular new thing then 7.04 works great for me and has lots of improvements over older releases.
[08:49] <Icehawk78> yigal: It's a saved game file for my Wii video game console. Right now, I'm mostly just trying to figure out the structure of the file, with the hopeful future goal of being able to edit the file.
[08:49] <yigal> punsad: lame and lame-extras
[08:49] <Zenerek> ***pagan0ne hahah, yeah i knew that, but i have to try, funny thing i never ask much for help
[08:49] <pagan0ne> yigal: my point is, that even with alot of ram, it can be filled up quickly if he's running off livecd trying to do it
[08:50] <niuq> how can i write over my ntfs partition?
[08:50] <pagan0ne> Zenerek: i ask, usually dont get anything that helps me, solve the problem on my own, and am back inside a week
[08:50] <yigal> Icehawk78: I am really not sure in this area, gl :)
[08:50] <RoC_MM> niuq, like erase the hard drive....or resize or delete a partition?
[08:50] <yigal> Icehawk78: you will do it
[08:50] <niuq> RoC_MM: like saving a file there
[08:51] <RoC_MM> see if you see it in Computer.
[08:51] <RoC_MM> Computer is under the Places menu at the top of the screen,.
[08:51] <pagan0ne> is there a way to just install _EVERYTHING_ in the universe directory? lol
[08:51] <Naisenu> weltall: I must need something to make this run yes? I get error: "Cannot open /home/carissa/Desktop/HieroWord34/Hierowords341.exe: No application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file." (Yes I put the .ocx & .dll in the same folder.)
[08:51] <m1chael> when i view large pages in firefox (i.e. myspace pages) ... firefox gets extremely slow.. can anyone give me some hints on what to google or how to fix this?
[08:51] <Zenerek> ***pagan0ne i can for the most part fix my own probs, i am stubborn and refuse to ask for help usually, but i've found linux to be taxing, but i still don't ask much for help
[08:51] <bic> that would take a lot of space
[08:51] <Icehawk78> yigal: Thanks for trying. lol. I wasn't expecting anyone necessarily to be able to help in this particular area, I was just checking to see if I could figure out anything I may have missed.
[08:51] <niuq> RoC_MM: any clue?
[08:52] <bayziders> For some reason I don't have my progress bar when I boot and shut down. How do I get it back?
[08:52] <weltall> you need wine
[08:52] <yigal> m1chael: use epiphany :)
[08:52] <RoC_MM> Yeah I said something niuq ...
[08:52] <pagan0ne> bic: i was making tha comment out of frustration, but im sure i have the space... lol  2 500Gb Drives
[08:52] <Naisenu> ah you were using wine :)
[08:52] <yigal> m1chael: it does seem to be faster, if you are using GNOME
[08:52] <weltall> well  that's the only way right now :P
[08:52] <niuq> RoC_MM: ...? you havent...
[08:52] <niuq> RoC_MM: .i am missing messages?
[08:52] <Ausylo> when setting up ubuntu, it doesnt find my router
[08:52] <m1chael> yeah im using gnome
[08:52] <Ausylo> on a wireless connection
[08:52] <m1chael> should i use kde?
[08:53] <RoC_MM> pagan0ne, some packages replace other packages, there might be a way but you almost defianntely don't need to do it...nobody does that.
[08:53] <yigal> m1chael: then check out epiphany
[08:53] <m1chael> okay
[08:53] <Naisenu> Weltall: Do you run it from the command line or double-click the icon?
[08:53] <RoC_MM> niuq, I just didn't say your name...click Places than Computer.
[08:53] <weltall> i've tried from command line
[08:53] <pagan0ne> RoC_MM: i know, im just frustrated trying to compile kiba from source and not having help with the deps... lol i was only kidding
[08:53] <yigal> m1chael: epiphany-browser  epiphany-extensions
[08:53] <weltall> but normally i do also a double click
[08:53] <niuq> RoC_MM: ohh sorry
[08:54] <niuq> RoC_MM: ok done
[08:54] <Zenerek> ***pagan0ne yeah there is a way just click ctrll+a(in synaptic) and then apply the install and hope you're not stuck on a dialp modem like me
[08:54] <RoC_MM> pagan0ne, it is possible to grab the source package for that no?
[08:54] <yigal> pagan0ne:  has that program improved over half a year ago?
[08:54] <weltall> if i do a double click it can't find it's file
[08:54] <weltall> s
[08:54] <Naisenu> is it just: "wine /path/to/file" - require any switches?
[08:54] <RoC_MM> pagan0ne, like the source package from the repo?
[08:54] <yigal> pagan0ne: I mean kiba?
[08:54] <rickjames> hi... i just installed ubuntu yesterday and i got frustrated with the limitedness of it all because i have to use proprietary restricted nvidia drivers.  then my x windows wouldn't start and i had to use the bash shell. i ended up figuring out how to run a buffer overflow attack thingy on my own system, eventually corrupted the whole HDD and had to reinstall today.  right now if you type man +k undocumented in your console you can see the man
[08:54] <rickjames> page created from the 7 proprietary nvidia packages installed on my system...  there was a command at some point that told me about the mono-project...   i'm honestly just trying to figure out what the hell i did to my system yesterday....
[08:54] <punsad> anyone know what causes beryl to not run windows manager correctly?  All my X apps just hang in space without any window manager when I select 'beryl'
[08:54] <weltall> cd /path/to/file
[08:54] <weltall> wine executable
[08:54] <pagan0ne> yigal: i dont know yet... lol still fighting
[08:54] <weltall> just to be sure as when i do a double click i get a file open error
[08:54] <Naisenu> okay that should be easy enough ... letting SPM install wine now
[08:55] <rickjames> well yesterday = thursday now...very little sleep you see...
[08:55] <pagan0ne> RoC_MM: not that i can see, i dont see any kiba packages in adept after i added the repo and updated my local list
[08:55] <yigal> pagan0ne: I compiled it about a half year ago, it takes a little effort but it didn't seem worth it.  I would give you my deb or config file but I through the lot out it really wasn't worth it
[08:55] <yigal> pagan0ne: s/through/threw excuse me
[08:55] <niuq> RoC_MM: ok yeah i see the ntfs partition, but the thin is, it's only read-ony disk
[08:55] <pagan0ne> yigal: well i saw a video on youtube with beryl and kiba-dock installed, and it looked pretty slick
[08:56] <niuq> RoC_MM: ok yeah i see the ntfs partition, but the thing*** is, it's only read-ony disk
[08:56] <bayziders> For some reason I don't have my progress bar when I boot and shut down. How do I get it back?
[08:56] <niuq> RoC_MM: and i'd like to write over that partition
[08:56] <marquinho64> someone can give me tokens please?
[08:56] <yigal> pagan0ne: it looks slick. the problem is kiba dock is really easily controllable and so everything is flying this way and that most of the time
[08:56] <RoC_MM> !ntfs > niuq
[08:56] <yigal> pagan0ne: excuse me "not really controllable"
[08:57] <HorizonXP> hey, how's Ubuntu's 64 bit support on the Core 2 Duo?
[08:57] <niuq> !ntfs
[08:57] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:57] <niuq> !ntfs-3g
[08:57] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:57] <Zenerek>  Naisenu just remember that between anyspace in a name to add \\ like this        / that\\and/with/
[08:57] <rickjames> not quite perfect horizon, i learned how to run a buffer overflow attack on my own system yesterday and fucked it pretty hard.
[08:57] <RoC_MM> HorizonXP, Core 2 isn't 64-bit I don't think.
[08:57] <rickjames> and thts what i use
[08:57] <marquinho64> how i can get tokens?
[08:57] <haggard> !ohmy | rickjames
[08:57] <ubotu> rickjames: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:57] <rickjames> on my laptop
[08:57] <yigal> rickjames: does that work for just one terminal or the whole machine?
[08:58] <HorizonXP> RoC_MM: According to Wikipedia, it is
[08:58] <RoC_MM> marquinho64, like for what? Arcade tokens?
[08:58] <Naisenu> autocomplete does that for me :D
[08:58] <rickjames> er sorry bout that :-/
[08:58] <Naisenu> ah frell the blasted printer error
[08:58] <rickjames> er...any terminal i use really. i can just run one of many commands, hit esc a few times, and immediately be root user.
[08:58] <RoC_MM> HorizonXP, the kernel supports SMP for like forever.
[08:58] <pagan0ne> yigal: well ill see when i get done fighting, if i dont just fsck it first
[08:58] <RoC_MM> Oh.
[08:58] <RoC_MM> 64-bit.
[08:58] <marquinho64> to download games on direct download site
[08:58] <RoC_MM> Just try it HorizonXP ...get the livecd.
[08:59] <rickjames> yeah horizon, it will work.
[08:59] <magnetron> marquinho64: stop begging for tokens
[08:59] <Naisenu> program is a bit of a bugger in that it always wants a printer installed or it errors out
[08:59] <rickjames> just don't do silly stuff like i did
[08:59] <HorizonXP> RoC_MM: Well, I won't have the laptop until later this week. I'm just worried about driver and sotware support
[08:59] <marquinho64> why?
[08:59] <RoC_MM> marquinho64, what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[08:59] <Lapinux> anyone know how ubuntu knows if your system is up to date?
[08:59] <yigal> rickjames: shoot where can I get this info, I would like to make sure it can't easily happen on my system
[08:59] <magnetron> !support | marquinho64
[08:59] <ubotu> marquinho64: support is The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[08:59] <RoC_MM> HorizonXP, Ubuntu has info on that on their website I'm sure...
[09:00] <HorizonXP> RoC_MM: My desktop runs beautifully on Ubuntu, I'm hoping it's even better on the new laptop, but i'm trying to figure out if I should stay with 32 bit or go 64
[09:00] <yigal> pagan0ne: then I wish you luck on the kiba build :)
[09:00] <HorizonXP> !ubotu 64bit
[09:00] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[09:00] <RoC_MM> Lapinux, it does an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade check in the background
[09:00] <rickjames> wait sorry horizon, i don't have core 2, i have core duo XD
[09:00] <mattsqz> youll run into minor issues with 64bit
[09:00] <mattsqz> flash, for example
[09:00] <bayziders> For some reason I don't have my progress bar when I boot and shut down. How do I get it back?
[09:00] <HorizonXP> yeah rickjames, core2 was the first laptop chip to support it
[09:00] <HorizonXP> rickjames, thas why i went with it
[09:00] <pagan0ne> yigal: i _think_ i just finished... lol
[09:00] <Zenerek> Lapinux: look up and two your right on your desktop there is a liitle icon that if you hover the mouse over tell you if there are any updates
[09:01] <niuq> RoC_MM: it worked well, thx
[09:01] <DarthShrine> I have a Core Duo T2350 with an Intel 945GM IGP.  When I run Beryl there are blue outlines around windows that are on top of the mplayer window.  Alt-tab, etc will also turn the whole mplayer window blue.  In Metacity the video is fine.  What can I do to remove the blue areas?
[09:01] <Lapinux> RoC_MM: i accidently had "prerelease updates" checked and it hosed something, i got rid of the old kernel, removed the entry from grub and am using the old kernel, i unchecked the prerelease and want to update again but it thinks im all up to date....
[09:01] <HorizonXP> roc_mm: looking at the wiki, it says that apt-get doesn't support biarch, so it's tough to get 32 bit apps
[09:02] <yigal> pagan0ne: enjoy, but I think if you are like me you will soon get tired of the stuff flying around the screen :) but I hope you enjoy
[09:02] <rickjames> well basically i've just had to do a lot of fine tuning to this machine to make everything work right. but my desktop with beryl and emerald is sick.
[09:02] <khin> hi, is there any way i can get rid of this horrid brown color at startup
[09:02] <Naisenu> weltall: Are you getting the printer error?
[09:02] <Lapinux> Roc_MM: i mean i got rid of the newest *hosed kernel
[09:02] <weltall> i didn't try printing
[09:02] <FFForever> HELP!!!, sorry but i was getting help and i changed my only users group from the main group and now i cant run sudo.....
[09:02] <pagan0ne> yigal: well i like to play with the stuff, i may never use it again, but i like to expirment and learn, and if i like it, i may keep it...
[09:02] <Naisenu> after you hit the big OK button
[09:02] <khin> i've been changing my gnome stuff but can i change the ubuntu startup screen
[09:03] <magnetron> FFForever: start ubuntu in single-user mode and fix it
[09:03] <FFForever> how?
[09:03] <FFForever> and i use kubuntu :D
[09:03] <magnetron> FFForever: when you see the grub menu, it will be there
[09:03] <weltall> if you do print multiple it seems to work naisenu
[09:03] <Lapinux> Roc_MM: can you help me any further?
[09:03] <rickjames> okay so nobody can help me figure out how i went from running ubuntu, to traipsing through the bash shell, to issuing direct commands to my processor? and got a boot: prompt?
[09:03] <Naisenu> I think the program checks for a printer and then errors out if it can't find one. I just installed my HP PSC1210 here and it doesn't like that.
[09:03] <FFForever> i see recovery :)
[09:03] <FFForever> is that it?
[09:03] <magnetron> FFForever: that's it
[09:04] <yigal> pagan0ne: linux that is what its about, experimentation
[09:04] <weltall> works fine here naisenu
[09:04] <RoC_MM> Lapinux, I would restore from backups...or reinstall if the system.
[09:04] <weltall> with default printer selected
[09:04] <pagan0ne> yigal: yeah thats what they said about acid too
[09:04] <rickjames> mmmm. acid.
[09:04] <Naisenu> Do I have to reboot the machine for it to realize that there's a printer attached?
[09:05] <Lapinux> Roc_MM: no way i can tell it to apply updates again now that i dont have the hosed kernel and the prerelease updates checked
[09:05] <khin> is there any way to change this
[09:05] <RoC_MM> Not likely Naisenu.
[09:05] <Ausylo> anyone know how i can get better screen resolution that 1024x768 with ubuntu ?
[09:05] <rickjames> well whatever, someone type man -k man in terminal and check it out.
[09:05] <Ausylo> than*
[09:05] <FFForever> kk *brb* 5mins :D
[09:05] <marquinho64> anyone from Brazil?
[09:05] <pagan0ne> arg!
[09:05] <RoC_MM> Lapinux, you could run "sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade" from the terminal.
[09:05] <Naisenu> *bangs head* There is a printer showing as installed.  That fixed it.
[09:07] <tsai> hi folks,  I accidently installed apache2 twice, and now want to remove any instance of it.  Any body know how I can get rid of both installs altogether?  It appears that they have documentation in several location when i do a locate
[09:07] <pagan0ne> is there any way to compile a virtual brick to throw at this virtual junk they call kiba.... after hours of fighting, i got it to compile, now... it wont run!
[09:08] <RoC_MM> pagan0ne, yes you could compile a brick, but that wouldn't make kiba run...
[09:08] <khin> is there any way to change the ubuntu startup screen from this brown color
[09:08] <Naisenu> what is kiba?
[09:08] <rickjames> mmm. compiling bricks.
[09:08] <Lapinux> Roc_MM: same thing, do you know what file it looks at to see whats installed
[09:08] <Zenerek> pagan0ne that's just i candy, now losing your browser, that hurts
[09:08] <RoC_MM> khin, Yes...it's a graphic, not really a color...you may not want to bother unelss it's a big deal.
[09:09] <pagan0ne> RoC_MM: well i was hoping it WOULDNT run at that point actually, but a bit of googling got it to work
[09:09] <Lapinux> Roc_MM: as far as updates
[09:09] <RoC_MM> Lapinux, I'd reinstall...much simpler...can you do this?
[09:09] <FFForever> what is the root/sudo group?
[09:09] <Lapinux> Roc_MM: i have alot of work into it.....
[09:09] <khin> well, er, if you could point me toward doing this that would be great
[09:10] <rickjames> it tells your computer who has permissions to use sudo commands i'd think ffforever
[09:10] <Lapinux> Roc_MM: and i forget commands alot, and how i did things :)
[09:10] <RoC_MM> FFForever, the group is "admin"
[09:10] <FFForever> kk
[09:10] <weltall> good that it worked :)
[09:10] <niuq> my system is not mouting usb memories automatically, how could i make it manually?
[09:10] <shadow89> heloooo world
[09:10] <Lapinux> Roc_MM: i was thinking there had to be a way to trick it and get it to start over with appying updates
[09:10] <Zenerek> Lapinux: write notes down, i got so many i created a docs folder
[09:11] <khin> id like to get rid of this graphic... i do not want to see any brown from boot to gnome...
[09:11] <FFForever> how come i don't see me in the admin group on my current system in kcontrol?
[09:11] <rickjames> your in ffforever probably
[09:11] <rickjames> root and your own name is part of it
[09:11] <FFForever> found it :D
[09:12] <punsad> anyone know how to ensure that ndiswrapper is installed for each reboot?
[09:12] <RoC_MM> khin, mmmm...you could close your eyes...no?   Yes...I think "splash" is a boot parameter...you could remove that....then it would show the normal boot process with all the text info i bet.
[09:12] <Zenerek>  khin google for it or visit gnome art .com, or i think that's the place
[09:12] <RoC_MM> FFForever, didn't you remove yourself from that group?
[09:12] <Naisenu> btw thank you for your help, weltall
[09:12] <niuq> khin: www.gnome-look.org
[09:12] <weltall> np :)
[09:12] <RoC_MM> khin, that boot progress bar is called the "usplash" btw..
[09:12] <FFForever> nvm :D
[09:13] <Naisenu> ... is there anyway to make a shortcut to do the command line running of it?
[09:13] <RoC_MM> I think.
[09:13] <FFForever> i run 2 copys of kubuntu RoC_MM  :D
[09:13] <niuq> ubuntu is not mounting usb memories automatically
[09:13] <FFForever> one on this computer the other on my server :D
[09:13] <niuq> any help?
[09:13] <weltall> well
[09:13] <FFForever> (i messed up on my server...)
[09:13] <weltall> you can do a shell script
[09:13] <AnAnt> Hello, is there something similar to ActiveDirectory in linux ?
[09:13] <weltall> as calling it directly seems to not work well
[09:13] <weltall> #/bin/sh
[09:13] <RoC_MM> AnAnt, yes there are a few things.
[09:13] <weltall> cd /path/to/file
[09:13] <weltall> wine executable
[09:13] <AnAnt> RoC_MM: what ?
[09:13] <Zenerek> anyway i have to go, night all er morning or whatever it is where you all are bye
[09:13] <RoC_MM> AnAnt, I don't know...I just know there are... :-D
[09:17] <RoC_MM> It can't possibly have gone completely silent for this long
[09:17] <xenex> anyone know why firestarter is using 100% cpu?
[09:17] <AnAnt> it did
[09:17] <punsad> which file do I edit to install modules at boot?  is it /etc/modules?
[09:18] <FFForever> how does recovery mod get me root access?, when i didn't even know the root password?
[09:18] <RoC_MM> xenex, sounds like not enough information.
[09:18] <RoC_MM> did you google it xenex ?
[09:18] <FFForever> also i changed the root password can i still use recovery mode?
[09:18] <xenex> yes
[09:18] <pagan0ne> Zambezi: the horrible thing is im a kubuntu user, the only reason i came here for help, is kiba is gtk based, and i figured the gtk gods could help more than the Qt Gods, however it seemes i was the only help in this case
[09:18] <xenex> nothing
[09:18] <RoC_MM> FFForever, recovery mode doesn't require a password I think...
[09:18] <xenex> i'm getting a bunch of attempt to connect to my torrents port but they are all being blocked so its working.
[09:18] <LeMonX2> o.o
[09:19] <FFForever> it does not but how does the recovery mode get root access on my box?
[09:19] <xenex> just don't understand why it is using 100% cpu
[09:19] <oclarke> Hi there, I'm having trouble getting my tv tuner to work. It used to (pre edgy), but now I get sound and no picture, so it is getting a signal
[09:19] <RoC_MM> FFForever, it just boots to a single user runlevel...try it and see
[09:19] <LeMonX2> what is room about
[09:20] <RoC_MM> xenex, There's a good reason.  It wouldn't be at 100% unless it was doing something...
[09:20] <oclarke> I'm using feisty and the card is a Leadtek TV2000XP
[09:20] <xenex> okay then, might as well not use firestarter
[09:20] <magnetron> !support | LeMonX2
[09:20] <xenex> if its killing my cpu
[09:20] <ubotu> LeMonX2: support is The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[09:20] <RoC_MM> xenex, you could also try a different firewall configurator...all those programs are just configuring LInux's built-in firewall.
[09:21] <LeMonX2> what is ubuntu ?
[09:21] <oclarke> anyone have any thoughts??
[09:21] <xenex> wouldn't it be the same effect for others...?
[09:21] <xenex> denying hosts and such
[09:21] <LeMonX2> bb
[09:21] <kraut> moin
[09:21] <RoC_MM> xenex, it might be analysing some logs or something...if it stays that way then something is wrong I would assume.
[09:22] <RandomizeR> "No package 'openssl' found" when running configure on feisty prior to making Downloader for X.. help anyone!?
[09:22] <RoC_MM> LemonX2, goto ubuntu.com
[09:22] <Ausylo> how do i find out my ESSID?
[09:22] <RandomizeR> openssl is installed, and i even reinstalled it yet i still get it :-s
[09:22] <curiogeo> I have reinstalled a samba install on 6.06 and I was able to save the home partition.  When I try to add the users again I am getting an error.
[09:22] <rickjames> install package openssl randomizer, use synaptic package manager...
[09:22] <bluebanana> ubuntu has add/remove and synaptic. so what's the use of using automatix2?
[09:23] <RandomizeR> rickjames: it's installed
[09:24] <RandomizeR> rickjames: and even reinstalling it didn't help
[09:24] <Ausylo> anyone know how i find out my ESSID on my router during install of Ubuntu?
[09:24] <RandomizeR> and when i do pkg-config --list-all it's not there!
[09:24] <rickjames> well trace your compiler with a terminal command.  put man on both sides of your compile command and see what is giving you problems.  i'd suggest. seeing as i'm a nub and that helped me get my computer in working order.
[09:24] <RandomizeR> yet it is there in /usr/bin/openssl
[09:25] <vip3rousmango> hello?
[09:25] <rickjames> it also helped me recompile my system when my x-server wouldnt start
[09:26] <rickjames> i basically traced down the bug in my system with it, so it shouldnt be hard to trace down a bug with a compile problem.
[09:26] <void^> RandomizeR: you probably want libssl-dev
[09:26] <tonsofpcs> anyone know any music playback software with a http 'request' interface and weighted rotation automation (like SAM3) for linux?  [doesn't need to stream, just play audio, but streaming is fine too]
[09:27] <Assassin`> i can use adobe photoshop in ubuntu right...
[09:27] <RandomizeR> void^: yes, thanks!
[09:27] <Assassin`> just wanted to know before i wasted my time
[09:27] <rickjames> with the right stuff installed possibly assassin
[09:27] <rickjames> i don't know myself...
[09:27] <Assassin`> sweet
[09:27] <Assassin`> any idea what i need
[09:27] <Assassin`> if not i'll just check the forum tomarrow
[09:27] <rickjames> yes you can
[09:27] <rickjames> 100% sure
[09:28] <Assassin`> o yea
[09:28] <rickjames> ubuntu helps you configure it
[09:28] <Assassin`> if it needs wine im straight
[09:28] <FFForever> can i make a .deb for pidgin?
[09:28] <rickjames> well wine and probably some other backend libraries
[09:28] <rickjames> like mono...
[09:28] <Assassin`> but i think there were some other things i need yea
[09:28] <rickjames> and some other stuff
[09:28] <Assassin`> other libraries
[09:28] <Assassin`> i'll look it up
[09:28] <rickjames> yup.
[09:29] <Assassin`> program too expensive (cough cough) to go to waste
[09:29] <Assassin`> may have been free for me thou
[09:29] <Assassin`> u never know
[09:29] <tonsofpcs> FFForever: there is one
[09:29] <Assassin`> :P
[09:29] <tonsofpcs> FFForever: 1 sec
[09:29] <tonsofpcs> FFForever: http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=pidgin
[09:31] <FFForever> i hate it :D
[09:31] <FFForever> XD, i just wanted to share it (lol) ile just give my friends that link :D
[09:31] <khin> hi, i notice that in between the gnome logon screen and my desktop loading, there is this brown screen in between. is there some way to stop this from appearing
[09:32] <rickjames> probably not khin
[09:32] <rickjames> thats gnome loading certain things before others
[09:32] <khin> ugh
[09:32] <rickjames> and then drawing on top of it
[09:33] <rickjames> how long does it last?
[09:33] <khin> 1 sec max
[09:33] <godgryphon> hi, i was wondering, does ubuntu feisty fawn have more hardware compatibility than the last release? particularly in ati radeon graphics cards
[09:33] <rickjames> i'd say its probably just your computer taking a while to load your x server and window manager.
[09:33] <hylje> godgryphon: somewhat
[09:33] <rickjames> well god, it sure does with my nvidia card
[09:34] <godgryphon> because this graphics card can run sabayon but not ubuntu 6 >.>
[09:34] <mans_> hello
[09:34] <godgryphon> hello
[09:34] <Flannel> godgryphon: Which card is it?  older or newer?
[09:34] <rickjames> godgryphon, install it, and then get automatix, then go to drivers.  you'll beable to automatically install the best stuff for your system.
[09:34] <khin> maybe i should update to feisty.
[09:34] <Flannel> !automatix | rickjames, godgryphon
[09:34] <godgryphon> ati radeon 9250
[09:34] <ubotu> rickjames, godgryphon: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:34] <mans_> anyone   whos very good  ubuntu
[09:35] <TigerMau> hello!!
[09:35] <h3xis> is there a command to configure the keyboard? i'm not running X nor do i have an X server installed for specific reasons
[09:35] <rickjames> hehe. yeah well, don't rely on automatix, just use it to install some stuff with your fresh distro....
[09:35] <mans_> i  cant  run ym
[09:35] <maeth> i installed feisty fawn without the swap partition, i dont know what it does exactly, should i create it?, and if so, how can i?
[09:35] <Flannel> rickjames: No.  Don't use it period.  It breaks things.  Please don't recommend it.
[09:35] <rickjames> mmkay sorry.
[09:35] <vip3rousmango> anyone know if ubuntu would read my PSP if i put my psp into connect mode?
[09:35] <TigerMau> skystar2 pci it's compatible with ubuntu?
[09:36] <rickjames> its the only way i could get quite a few things to work on my pc. then i uninstalled it.
[09:36] <ziroday> will xfce work on these specs?
[09:36] <godgryphon> maeth : it makes linux faster, its reccomended but not mandatory
[09:36] <ziroday> * Speed   : 466 MHz with Celeron processor
[09:36] <ziroday> * Memory  :
[09:36] <ziroday>   - 3 computers : 64 MB
[09:36] <ziroday>   - 2 computers : 128 MB
[09:36] <ziroday> * Hard disk
[09:36] <ziroday>   - 3 computers : 10 gigabytes
[09:36] <ziroday>   - 2 computers : 4.3 gigabytes
[09:36] <ziroday> * USB version 1
[09:36] <ziroday> * No Floppy disk and CD room
[09:36] <Flannel> godgryphon: ATIs closed source driver doesn't support anything below the 9500.  However, the open source ati drivers will work.
[09:36] <ziroday> * No Sound card
[09:36] <Flannel> ziroday: please don't paste here
[09:36] <rickjames> because i have to use proprietary nvidia drivers....
[09:36] <godgryphon> flannel : thanks man, good advice
[09:36] <ziroday> Flannel: :)
[09:36] <vip3rousmango> anyone know?
[09:37] <maeth> godgryphon, if i create with gparted live cd a blank partition, how can i set it to be "the swap partition"?
[09:37] <godgryphon> vip3rousmango : try it if you have it installed, heck, its a livecd, you could just try it, but i honestly dont know, mostlikely though unless it needs a special windows driver
[09:37] <Josesordo> how to mount a ISO images in feisty ?
[09:38] <Flannel> ziroday: Yes.  It'll work on those computers.  You'll need the alternate CD to install on the 64MB computers though.
[09:38] <Flannel> !iso | Josesordo
[09:38] <ubotu> Josesordo: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[09:38] <godgryphon> maeth : well, make it about 2 gigs, better more than less, and make it a primary partition and format it to swap, its in the menu
[09:38] <godgryphon> brb
[09:38] <Josesordo> :O thanks
[09:39] <gb__> hi guys
[09:39] <maeth> godgryphon, thanks , will do...
[09:39] <gb__> anyone here got gaim-pt?
[09:39] <TigerMau> do you know if skystar2 hardware it's compatible with ubuntu?
[09:39] <godgryphon> back
[09:39] <gb__> anyone?
[09:40] <haf> TigerMau, the Skystar2 is a DVB-S card, right?
[09:40] <gb__> i tried to google but with no luck
[09:40] <gb__> so if anyone has it?
[09:40] <TigerMau> yes haf!!
[09:41] <gb__> ok guess not
[09:41] <gb__> thanks anyways guys
[09:41] <godgryphon> is feisty fawn better than the last release substantially?
[09:41] <haf> TigerMau, it seems to: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TechniSat_SkyStar_2_TV_PCI_/_Sky2PC
[09:42] <TigerMau> im novice... and i want to switch from windows to ubuntu but i dont know if my hardware it's compatible..
[09:42] <godgryphon> live cd will tell ya tigermau
[09:42] <haf> live cd will only tell you if it's running out of the box
[09:42] <godgryphon> true
[09:42] <TigerMau> i like ubuntu
[09:43] <godgryphon> ubuntu is alright
[09:43] <TigerMau> GREAT haf!!!
[09:43] <rickjames> ubuntu is awesome, it works almost flawlessly with win32 apps, kde, and gnome stuff.
[09:43] <DemonSamurai> anyone can help me about alien pls?
[09:43] <godgryphon> win 32 apps? uh, wine runs on many linux distros
[09:43] <rickjames> i know that
[09:43] <haf> gnome also ^^
[09:44] <rickjames> but it still runs win32 apps pretty flawlessly through wine.
[09:44] <rickjames> and the beryl windows manager is superb
[09:44] <rickjames> my desktop is totally tripped out.
[09:44] <godgryphon> tue
[09:44] <godgryphon> true*
[09:44] <Flannel> godgryphon: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704tour
[09:44] <godgryphon> my two favorite distros are sabayon and ubuntu
[09:44] <godgryphon> thanks
[09:46] <DemonSamurai> how do i convert flash-plugin-<IP_ADDRESS>.rpm into flash-plugin-<IP_ADDRESS>.deb?
[09:46] <CheshireViking> !alien | DemonSamurai
[09:46] <ubotu> DemonSamurai: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:46] <Flannel> DemonSamurai: Flash is in the repositories, you don't need to convert.
[09:47] <TigerMau> i have ultimate question... there are a ubuntu driver for WinTV-HVR-1100? it's another dvb card analog+dvb-t!
[09:47] <DemonSamurai> Flannel yes i agree but it fails when i try to do it through the adept-updater
[09:48] <Flannel> DemonSamurai: What fails?  What version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:48] <Flannel> er, version of Kubuntu
[09:48] <ch4r13s> lemme gues yall are all talkin bout nvidia drivers
[09:48] <DemonSamurai> kubuntu 7.04 amd64
[09:48] <rickjames> use synaptic....
[09:48] <haf> TigerMau, please check on that site that I've showed you, you should also find information about other cards there
[09:48] <DemonSamurai> nope i actually still trying to find ATI drivers
[09:48] <Flannel> DemonSamurai: ah.  There's no flash for AMD64, because Adobe doesn't believe in 64bit
[09:48] <rickjames> lol are u seirous?
[09:49] <ch4r13s> you can use 32bit
[09:49] <ch4r13s> if you use a wrapper
[09:49] <ch4r13s> i got 64bit with flash workin
[09:49] <TigerMau> ok haf
[09:49] <DemonSamurai> anyone any idea about ATI drivers?
[09:49] <rickjames> demon, give me a sec i'll check repositories
[09:49] <nullkuhl> guys what is xterm and wat is rxvt ?
[09:49] <ch4r13s> HELP ME!: i keep getting FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[09:49] <TigerMau> it's driver only for Windows 98SE, ME, 2000, XP
[09:49] <ch4r13s> after i installed the new nvidia drivers
[09:50] <ch4r13s> tried every tutorial everywhere
[09:50] <Flannel> ch4r13s: what was wrong with the old drivers?
[09:50] <ch4r13s> my xorg.conf says nvidia for driver.... my restricted file has nv in it
[09:50] <Flannel> ch4r13s: and, how did you install the new ones?
[09:50] <ch4r13s> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[09:50] <ch4r13s> following that
[09:50] <ch4r13s> and every other tutorial on the forums
[09:50] <rickjames> ch4rles
[09:51] <rickjames> do you have a geforce go?
[09:51] <ch4r13s> i got Ubuntu 64bit 7.04 with Geforce 7900 GT
[09:51] <rickjames> and you have to use the proprietaries?
[09:51] <rickjames> the restricted drivers?
[09:51] <ch4r13s> uname -r = 2.6.20-16-generic
[09:51] <Flannel> ch4r13s: Did you read the first line of that page?
[09:51] <ch4r13s> Flannel yes
[09:51] <bullgard4> What is the filename of the routing table in Ubuntu 7.04?
[09:52] <ch4r13s> ive seriously tried all the other ways before i did this
[09:52] <ch4r13s> routing table?
[09:52] <rickjames> did you uninstall the old ones first? because ubuntu automaticcaly set up me using the proprietary nvidia ones
[09:52] <rickjames> and when i tried to install the oss ones
[09:52] <nullkuhl> rxvt-unicode
[09:52] <rickjames> my computer died hard
[09:52] <Flannel> ch4r13s: And nvidia-glx-new didn't work?  They should have.  Theyre supported
[09:53] <ch4r13s> uhm
[09:53] <ch4r13s> lemme try
[09:53] <Flannel> ch4r13s: well, now that you've done it manually, there's no saying if it will or wont.  You're no longer strictly under package management
[09:53] <rickjames> i had to install a bunch of extra nvidia libraries to get the drivers to work with me.
[09:54] <ch4r13s> just uninstalled newest nvidia through console
[09:54] <ch4r13s> sudo sh NVIDIA* --uninstall
[09:54] <ch4r13s> one second
[09:54] <ch4r13s> apt-gettin
[09:54] <rickjames> but i decided to just go with the proprietary ones, makes for much cooler desktop effects :)
[09:54] <BadRobot> hi there
[09:55] <ch4r13s> is nvidia-glx-new equal to putting nv in the xorg.conf
[09:55] <ch4r13s> after i install them
[09:55] <BadRobot> any some  help,how do i convert a zip file to tar.gz?
[09:55] <BadRobot> is there any good zipper program?
[09:55] <ch4r13s> Add/Remove
[09:55] <ch4r13s> search
[09:55] <BadRobot> compressing probram/application
[09:55] <ch4r13s> :)
[09:55] <The_Entropy> hi guys
[09:57] <aberry5555> hi everyone... Im having a few problems with Ndiswrapper in feisty, I think I need to uninstall the module and upgrade to a newer version but I don't know how, anyone have any ideas?
[09:57] <The_Entropy> I am trying to install gtk+2.10, the following problem is occuring during the execution of the configure script: http://pastebin.ca/558119
[09:58] <DemonSamurai> anyone any idea where to find ASUS ATI RADEON EAX1600 series debian drivers?
[09:58] <The_Entropy> now i have indeed installed glib 2.12 from source, but in the package manager glib 2.10.3 is the newest version
[09:58] <weltall> dove posso trovare il file con i repo di default?
[09:58] <aberry5555> the asus drivers should be exactly the same as the ati drivers, demonsamuria
[09:58] <DemonSamurai> i don't know where to find them
[09:59] <The_Entropy> trying to remove that old version would result in a lot of other dependant packages to be removed and I don't want that to happen
[09:59] <aberry5555> www.ati.com
[09:59] <bezak> ne1 know how to turn off antialiasing in gnome-terminal
[09:59] <DemonSamurai> no linux drivers in official sites
[09:59] <aberry5555> actually, ignore that
[09:59] <aberry5555> do you want the standard gnu drivers or the proprietary 3D enabled ones?
[09:59] <DemonSamurai> the 3d ones
[09:59] <rickjames> the proprietary 3d enabled ones if he wants cool stuff
[10:00] <aberry5555> OK, well first things first open up synaptic, make sure the "universe" and "multiverse"  repos are enabled and search for "fglrx"
[10:00] <aberry5555> that package sometimes doesnt work though, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[10:00] <ch4r13s> hey im getting a problem when i startx.... FATEL: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[10:01] <ch4r13s> any advise
[10:01] <bezak> ch4r13s: are you trying to install nvidia drivers?
[10:01] <ch4r13s> i just installed nvidia-glx-new
[10:01] <ch4r13s> yes
[10:01] <bezak> ch4r13s: something isn't working
[10:01] <ch4r13s> nvidia is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:01] <ch4r13s> next to device
[10:01] <bezak> ch4r13s: change the nvidia line in your xorg.conf back to nv
[10:02] <ch4r13s> ok one sec
[10:02] <DemonSamurai> in ati site i get this http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html
[10:02] <aberry5555> Does anyone know how to uninstall modules that are included in the standard kernel WITHOUT rebuilding your own kernel?
[10:02] <DemonSamurai> it is .run file
[10:02] <DemonSamurai> how do i install it?
[10:03] <ch4r13s> bezak: thanks worked
[10:03] <rickjames> does that even make sense? could one remove things from a kernel without rebuilding it?
[10:03] <aberry5555> hi demon, go to your private message
[10:03] <aberry5555> I dont know :S thats why Im asking
[10:03] <rickjames> i'd guess no O.o
[10:03] <bezak> ch4r13s: no worries, at least you have graphics back
[10:03] <aberry5555> I need to remove the included ndiswrapper module and upgrade to the newer one
[10:03] <ch4r13s> indeed
[10:03] <bezak> ch4r13s: not sure why it didnt work though
[10:03] <ch4r13s> cus i had it set to nvidia not nv
[10:04] <wrzask> Hello.
[10:04] <bezak> ch4r13s: yeah but if you installed the drivers nvidia should work
[10:04] <bezak> wrzask: hey
[10:04] <wrzask> Is there any easy way to upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit version?
[10:04] <bezak> wrzask: why?
[10:05] <wrzask> bezak, Well, I want my to go 64-bit, yet I'd like to skip the whole reinstall, if possible. ;)
[10:05] <k1gwb> wrzask: nope, can't upgrade between 32/64
[10:05] <bezak> wrzask: hmm... i'm not sure, how come you want to go 64 do you have loads of ram?
[10:05] <ch4r13s> bezak: yeah ive been screwing around with the drivers all day... tried to install the new ones from NVIDIA.com and it didnt work lots of errors on boot... so back to glx-new
[10:05] <bezak> ch4r13s: ah k
[10:05] <xtreon> does anyone know what the aplication whit the uptime, memory and stuff (to the right) is called? http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1395/ftwrm2.png
[10:05] <bezak> ch4r13s: good luck :)
[10:06] <ch4r13s> bezak: followed every tutorial on every forum to do it ... didnt work
[10:06] <fabio__|> i have problems with ntpdate:
[10:06] <fabio__|> $ sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[10:06] <fabio__|> 11 Jun 11:01:36 ntpdate[19631] : no server suitable for synchronization found
[10:06] <bezak> xtreon: umm it looks like it might be a superkaramba widget
[10:06] <bezak> xtreon: not sure
[10:06] <wrzask> bezak, Yes. And it's not only the RAM issue, in 64-bit mode you have more and bigger registers avalaible.
[10:06] <ch4r13s> how come my nvidia-settings only has one option on the left "nvidia-settings configuration
[10:06] <aberry5555> does anyone know how to upgrade ndiswrapper in feisty?
[10:06] <bezak> wrzask: roger
[10:07] <wrzask> bezak, And NX. ;)
[10:07] <xtreon> bezak, hm
[10:07] <ch4r13s> bezak: check previous post
[10:08] <aberry5555> can anyone tell me how to manipulate or remove modules included in the feisty kernel?
[10:08] <hunter> sometimes as my ubuntu is running,it suddenly becom very slow.And i have to restart it ,and it become ok agaiain.
[10:08] <bezak> xtreon: only systems monitor i have used is torsmo
[10:08] <bezak> hunter: you mean the system starts to run really slow?
[10:09] <xtreon> bezak, me2, but that one is really nice looking
[10:09] <ch4r13s> bezak: im only getting one option in the left of nvidia-settings dialog
[10:09] <bezak> xtreon: sure is
[10:09] <bezak> ch4r13s: are you still running the nv driver or the nvidia one
[10:09] <ch4r13s> bezak: nv
[10:09] <ch4r13s> bezak: only one monitor working as well
[10:10] <hunter> can anyone tell me why?
[10:10] <hunter> thanks
[10:10] <hunter> yes.it delay
[10:10] <rickjames> ch4rl3s are u using the proprietaries or the oss ones now?
[10:10] <ch4r13s> nvidia-glx-new
[10:11] <bezak> ch4r13s: yeah but cos you have nv selected, that means you're running the oss ones atm
[10:11] <ch4r13s> ow ok
[10:11] <bezak> ch4r13s: i just told you to do that, so that you could start x back up
[10:11] <aberry5555> please can someone help me with ndiswrapper in feisty?
[10:11] <ch4r13s> ah ok...
[10:12] <ch4r13s> so is this process to get the nvidia-glx-new working long?
[10:12] <nullkuhl> guys wat is xterm and rxvt
[10:12] <bezak> ch4r13s: how come you don't just use that proprietary driver wizard thing in feisty>?
[10:12] <bezak> ch4r13s: restricted drivers whatever
[10:12] <logmein> if my desktop theme isn't compatible with certain applications (particularly firefox) how do I disable it from affecting that application?
[10:13] <bezak> logmein: what do you mean
[10:13] <ch4r13s> uhm
[10:13] <logmein> bezak: I got xfce-dark theme and when I load google in firefox the buttons and search bar are all dark too
[10:13] <bezak> nullkuhl: xterm is a terminal emulator, like gnome-terminal
[10:13] <ch4r13s> bezak: good eye thanks enabling through Restrictd Drivers
[10:13] <fabio__|> Why i receive this message??? $ sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[10:13] <fabio__|> 11 Jun 11:01:36 ntpdate[19631] : no server suitable for synchronization found
[10:13] <logmein> bezak: it has other problems with menus and buttons that conflict with website themes
[10:13] <xtreon> anyone remember the name of the aplication witch can be used to change the looks of the gnome desktop?
[10:14] <aberry5555> logmein: I've had that before, the only way I found out how to fix it was to use the "light" theme, which is the same but lighter text
[10:14] <bezak> ch4r13s: haha np
[10:14] <logmein> aberry5555: but I want the other theme I just want to force firefox to not use it
[10:15] <submissiveone> uhm
[10:15] <submissiveone> woot?
[10:15] <aa^way> what is java bytecode editors out here?
[10:15] <logmein> aberry5555: it pisses me off when websites use part of my desktop theme considering they don't know what my theme is
[10:15] <submissiveone> ya ?
[10:15] <aberry5555> it is the same theme, just a slightly different text. Try it and see, I think, otherwise if it's not to your taste I dunno a way around it,s orry :S
[10:16] <ch4r13s> bezak: Failed to start x server
[10:16] <bezak> logmein: do you mean like the widgets on websites like the buttons and scroll bars and that stuff?
[10:16] <logmein> aberry5555: hang on I'll show you what I mean
[10:16] <logmein> bezak: yes those!
[10:16] <bezak> logmein: i remember seeing recently howw to use different ones can't remember where though haha
[10:16] <logmein> bezak: I think I had the same trouble on a windows box long ago
[10:17] <ch4r13s> Error: API Mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-9755, but this X module has the version 1.0-9631.
[10:17] <ch4r13s> anyone?
[10:17] <logmein> ch4r13s: yes remove restricted modules and other junk
[10:17] <ch4r13s> how
[10:17] <bezak> logmein: i know that firefox on ubuntu comes with some firefox-gnome integration
[10:17] <bezak> logmein: mb get rid of that
[10:18] <bezak> logmein: then it will use some standard theme
[10:18] <logmein> ch4r13s: apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)-generic
[10:18] <logmein> apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx nvidia-settings nvidia-kernel-common
[10:18] <logmein> rm /etc/init.d/nvidia-*
[10:18] <ch4r13s> ok ty
[10:18] <sinapsi77> hi
[10:18] <logmein> bezak: oh ok
[10:18] <bezak> logmein: not sure though :)
[10:18] <logmein> bezak: I thought it might be some sort of gtk plugin theme stuff
[10:18] <sinapsi77> can i pastebin my xorg and glxinfo for an help?
[10:19] <sinapsi77> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25073/
[10:19] <sinapsi77> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25072/
[10:19] <bezak> logmein: yeah i dunno i use epiphany, and mine just uses some standard ugly buttons
[10:19] <logmein> bezak: but standard and ugly are good seeing as they don't usually conflict with websites
[10:19] <aberry5555> does anyone know how to upgrade ndiswrapper in feisty?
[10:19] <bezak> logmein: this is true
[10:20] <xtreon> anyone know where the cokey config file is located?
[10:20] <bezak> xtreon: conkey?
[10:20] <logmein> aberry5555: yeah you have to completely remove it and blacklist any driver your system might be trying to use then go to nidiswrapper site and compile it, make sure you have kernel headers and compiler
[10:20] <xtreon> bezak,  conky
[10:20] <Plantain> Hey, I've installed from the 7.04 i386 standard install disc, but my install doesn't seem to have a bootloader, is one installed by default?
[10:20] <sinapsi77> someone can help me...for the 3d with ati igp340m ??
[10:20] <logmein> aberry5555: also at site they have a list of what windows driver you have to get .inf and .sys files from
[10:21] <bezak> xtreon: ummm mb in .conky ? type "sudo updatedb" then when thats finished type "locate conky"
[10:21] <Jimmey> Plantain, yeah. What is the problem?
[10:21] <Plantain> Jimmey: My computer doesn't seem to find the bootloader then
[10:21] <Plantain> Just gives "Error Loading Operating System"
[10:21] <erUSUL> !ati | sinapsi77
[10:21] <ubotu> sinapsi77: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:21] <xtreon> bezak, cheers
[10:21] <Jimmey> Plantain, does GRUB appear at all?
[10:21] <ch4r13s> ok so nvidia-glx-new doesnt work in 16 but only in 15 of the kernel
[10:21] <Plantain> Jimmey: No
[10:21] <Plantain> oh wait
[10:21] <ch4r13s> good to know
[10:21] <Plantain> spoke to soon
[10:22] <Jimmey> Plantain, what's your hard drive setup like?
[10:22] <slackmagic> xtreon:  ~/.conkyrc   but then again you can use   conky -c /path/to/anyconfigurationfile
[10:22] <Andiamo> Good Morning people
[10:22] <logmein> bezak: ok firefox-gnome-support or mozilla-firefox-gnome-support both are not installed
[10:22] <Plantain> Jimmey: Looks to have fixed itself, or maybe it was to do with having the LiveCD still in the drive
[10:22] <Plantain> Thanks!
[10:22] <bezak> logmein: they aren't installed?
[10:22] <DJ-_-> i installed xubuntu on a p3 50mhz 128mb ram...but the shutdown process fails....the xubuntu logo comes and then the when the text black screen comes it is stuck there....the cursor is blinking but no text pops up...tried waiting for 20mins....and this has happened 3 times
[10:22] <Jimmey> Plantain, haha...You're welcome? :-P
[10:22] <Andiamo> I am Moustafa from Egypt cairo Pyramids st.
[10:22] <xtreon> slackmagic, canf find ~/.conkeyrc but I will make a new one,. theers
[10:22] <aberry5555> logmein: I would remove it but its part of the kernel in feisty :S
[10:22] <xtreon> cheers*
[10:23] <Andiamo> Working on ubuntu 7.4
[10:23] <bezak> DJ-_-: can you type anything at the prompt?
[10:23] <_olaf> i'm having problems playing any videos in ubuntu
[10:23] <DJ-_-> bezak no
[10:23] <_olaf> they only show like 1 frame and then go black
[10:23] <DJ-_-> 500* mhz
[10:23] <ch4r13s> logmein: i got nvidia-glx-new installed on restricted version 15 but now when i get into x server my bars are stretched across both of my monitors and new windows open up in between both of my monitors
[10:23] <bezak> DJ-_-: file a bug
[10:23] <_olaf> and then come back for a second and disappear again
[10:23] <logmein> aberry5555: ndiswrapper is not part of the kernel you have to install it through synaptic to get the old version that doesn't work
[10:23] <ch4r13s> logmein: im using twinview
[10:23] <_olaf> anybody have an idea what's going on?
[10:23] <DJ-_-> bezak: but i think there must be some other error cuz my other pc is working fine
[10:23] <aberry5555> logmein: it is part of the kernel in feisty, it wasnt in edgy but it is now
[10:24] <sinapsi77> no, that tutorial if for fglrx... but it don't work
[10:24] <askand> I use the mountingapplet in the gnomepanel...but recently it started showing  a icon all the time and if I click it I get an "mount cdrom 1" option..how to get rid of the icon?
[10:24] <sinapsi77> have you seen my pastebin?
[10:24] <logmein> ch4r13s: if you don't get a xorg crash then its running you just have to configure /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:24] <slackmagic> xtreon: it would be ~/.conkyrc     ..also take a look at  /usr/share/doc/conky/examples/conkyrc.sample.gz  ..i believe that's where it installs a generic configuration file ..so use zcat to pass it onto ~/.conkyrc for example
[10:24] <sinapsi77> !ati
[10:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:24] <DJ-_-> bezak: what is the check disk command in ubuntu....cuz i will try that 1st
[10:24] <ch4r13s> logmein: ok
[10:24] <aberry5555> logmein: It is not in synaptic and it's running from /dev/2.16.blahblah/ndiswrapper
[10:24] <bezak> DJ-_-: not sure man, do you mean fsck?
[10:25] <bezak> fsck (8)             - check and repair a Linux file system
[10:25] <DJ-_-> bezak: does that like check the disk for errors? like the windows "chkdsk"
[10:25] <logmein> aberry5555: ndiswrapper is not part of feisty unless you installed it, your system is trying to use the other method most likely a firmware hack on the drivers to get them working without ndiswrapper
[10:25] <bezak> DJ-_-: sorry man i'm not a former windows user i'm not sure :)
[10:25] <aberry5555> I promise im not that much of a noob :p it is definately installed as I issued ndiswrapper -i on the driver, and it worked
[10:26] <logmein> aberry5555: look through dmesg for any wireless errors and add the driver name to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[10:26] <DJ-_-> bezak: ok...i will give fsck a try
[10:26] <DJ-_-> thx
[10:26] <aberry5555> I had the SAME problem I have now in edgy, I had to upgrade to fix it but now its part of the kernel I dont know how to uninstall it
[10:26] <bezak> DJ-_-: np
[10:26] <logmein> aberry5555: open synaptic and search for ndiswrapper, see any checks?
[10:26] <aberry5555> nope
[10:26] <aberry5555> nothing installed, but it was already running in the first place
[10:26] <logmein> aberry5555: then its NOT there, its a different driver its trying to use
[10:27] <aberry5555> it isnt, as I installed the gtk FE without ndiswrapper and it worked, also wifi works for about two seconds before the whole thing freezes
[10:27] <aberry5555> I promise you ndiswrapper is on there
[10:27] <selinuxium_> DJ-_-: in a terminal type   man fsck   it will tell you all about it. Most commands have a 'man' page. It is always a good idea to check the man page before issueing a command you do not know. :)
[10:27] <bezak> logmein: mb he compiled it
[10:28] <SteveWrightNZ> how do I strip the mp3 layer off an avi video ?
[10:28] <Jimmey> SteveWrightNZ, ask it to dinner first..
[10:28] <logmein> bezak good now he just needs to figure out how to gather .inf and .sys then remove unworking .inf and modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:28] <bezak> Jimmey: lol thinking same thing
[10:28] <DJ-_-> selinuxium: thats what i am trying right now...thx bro
[10:28] <serenecloud> hi, i've got a quick question, is it possible to set the window list window width to a fixed size?
[10:28] <bezak> logmein: man ndiswrapper is a PITA
[10:28] <DJ-_-> brb
[10:28] <SteveWrightNZ> Jimmey: thats often a lot of money work for nothing  ;-)
[10:29] <Jimmey> XoD
[10:29] <SteveWrightNZ> but seriously
[10:29] <logmein> bezak: I just do ndiswrapper -help
[10:29] <SteveWrightNZ> I need to pull the music track out of this video
[10:29] <logmein> bezak: trick is never read the man pages they are worse than make output
[10:30] <bezak> logmein: yeah bsd man pages are pretty good though
[10:30] <aberry5555> logmein: im sure ndiswrapper is included in the feisty kernel
[10:30] <slackmagic> SteveWrightNZ: you could use mplayer or mencoder for stuff like that ..hm..example
[10:30] <logmein> aberry5555: and I'm sure I got ndiswrapper compiled shoved .inf and .sys into it and wham it worked instantly on 5 different computers
[10:30] <slackmagic> SteveWrightNZ: mplayer -quiet -vo null -vc null -af volume=0,resample=44100:0:1 -ao pcm:waveheader whatevervideo.avi
[10:31] <SteveWrightNZ> sweet
[10:31] <logmein> aberry5555: what is your card output from lspci anyway?
[10:31] <SteveWrightNZ> slackmagic: +++
[10:31] <nullkuhl> bezak: what is its use then ? (xterm)
[10:31] <bullgard4> What is the filename of the routing table in Ubuntu 7.04?
[10:31] <logmein> bullgard4: iptables
[10:31] <aberry5555> im not by my pc so I dunno
[10:31] <tonsofpcs> I just installed a new monitor that supports better resolution than my previous.  Is there a GUI tool to update the X config or should I go and manually reconfigure it?
[10:31] <Frogzoo> bullgard4: there isn't one
[10:31] <bezak> nullkuhl: just for a terminal, its fast, i'm not sure what the advanced features are as im not exactly a terminal freak
[10:31] <aberry5555> when I look in hardware manager it says the driver is ndiswrapper
[10:31] <slackmagic> SteveWrightNZ: and then use lame to make a mp3 if you really want it in mp3...i prefer oggs
[10:32] <bullgard4> Frogzoo: But?
[10:32] <aberry5555> and I know for a fact I didnt install it myself
[10:32] <DJ-_-> Selinuxium: how do i unmount the hard and then do a fsck
[10:32] <serenecloud> tonsofpcs: there's dpkg-reconfigure
[10:32] <serenecloud> but I prefer manually editing
[10:32] <Frogzoo> bullgard4: /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:32] <tonsofpcs> is there a way to change it without restarting X?
[10:32] <serenecloud> anyone is it possible to set the window list window width to a fixed size?
[10:32] <bullgard4> Frogzoo: /proc/net/route?
[10:32] <serenecloud> whoops, the underline shouldn't have been there
[10:32] <logmein> aberry555: then just override whatever the kernel is doing with the blacklist
[10:32] <logmein> aberry5555: that's what I've been trying to tell you :(
[10:33] <nullkuhl> how to have a colored syntax in terminal ? i saw it in screenshot but never knew how is it done.. can any one tell me ?
[10:33] <SteveWrightNZ> slackmagic: I thought it was already mp3
[10:33] <aberry5555> so how do I blacklist ndiswrapper without blacklisting the new one?
[10:33] <DJ-_-> well when i try to do a fsck....it says /dev/hda1 is mounted and can cause sever filestsystem damage...how do i do it then?
[10:33] <serenecloud> nullkuhl: you can use the file called .bashrc to set colors
[10:33] <DJ-_-> severe*
[10:33] <nullkuhl> where is it exactly ?
[10:33] <serenecloud> in /home/<username>/.bashrc
[10:33] <Gharbeia> Hi, Ihave no trouble connecting to open and WPAwirelss, but not with WEP. KNetworkManager would never get beyond "configuring". Any clues?
[10:34] <whiskey1973> I'm trying to patch my wireless (broadcom) drivers...The doc says to drop the patch in the kernel root and run n the terminal...I go to what I think is my kernel root but im restricted
[10:34] <SteveWrightNZ> slackmagic: that maplyer will only write wav ?  not mp3 ?
[10:34] <slackmagic> SteveWrightNZ: you can easily write a script that first strips off the audio to WAV and then encode it into whatever format you want...you never know if you want to edit the audio..that's why i like to first use wav
[10:34] <bezak> Gharbeia: that sounds like a #kubuntu question :)
[10:34] <logmein> whiskey1973: sudo su
[10:34] <SteveWrightNZ> ok
[10:34] <DJ-_-> Frogzoo:
[10:34] <Gharbeia> bezak: Not if you show me how to do it in bash :)
[10:35] <DJ-_-> Frogzoo: en i try to do a fsck....it says /dev/hda1 is mounted and can cause sever filestsystem damage...how do i do it then?*
[10:35] <slackmagic> SteveWrightNZ: also join #mplayer for more info
[10:35] <SteveWrightNZ> slackmagic:  thank you
[10:35] <logmein> DJ-_-: from live cd or during boot before the hard drive is mounted
[10:35] <Kaur> Hi!
[10:35] <bezak> Gharbeia: haha
[10:35] <DJ-_-> logmein: and how do i do that?
[10:35] <weltall> can someone help me with a strange nfs problem?
[10:35] <DJ-_-> logmein: before boot?
[10:35] <bezak> Gharbeia: i'm not sure man, but seriously, they might be able to help you more in #kubuntu
[10:36] <aberry5555> logmein: how do I blacklist ndiswrapper in the kernel without blacklisting the one I compile from source?
[10:36] <logmein> DJ-_-:  http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/xubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso try live cd
[10:36] <DJ-_-> logmein: it wont work on that machine its low on resources
[10:37] <weltall> try a gentoo live cd
[10:37] <logmein> aberry5555: I'm just going to take a wild guess here sudo echo "blacklist bcm43xx" | /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[10:37] <Gharbeia> bezak: Maybe. Thanks mate.
[10:37] <Kaur> I'm having a strange but probably simple problem with my laptop.... In gnome power manager I have defined that when a user pushes the power button it should ask the user what to do
[10:37] <Kaur> the problem is...
[10:37] <Kaur> nothing happens
[10:37] <bezak> Kaur: that sounds like a bug
[10:37] <aberry5555> logmein: bcm42xx isnt the module I want to blacklist... its ndiswrapper
[10:37] <DJ-_-> logmein: it wont work on that machine its low on resources
[10:38] <logmein> aberry5555: no its not
[10:38] <Kaur> I think it is an easy thing to solve...
[10:38] <logmein> aberry5555: ndiswrapper is not the driver
[10:38] <DJ-_-> logmein: can you plz tell me the boot way
[10:38] <Kaur> Because I got it work once
[10:38] <Kaur> by reinstalling acpid or gnome-power-manager or smth like that
[10:38] <logmein> DJ-_-: then grab a lighter linux live cd www.damnsmalllinux.org
[10:38] <aberry5555> logmein: it IS! I can issue ndiswrapper commands without doing ANYTHING in synaptic and ubuntu does NOT auto-recognise my card. it IS ndiswrapper
[10:38] <Kaur> but after reboot...
[10:38] <Kaur> It was broken again
[10:39] <logmein> aberry5555: ndiswrapper is there because you COMPILED IT
[10:39] <logmein> aberry5555: what were you expecting to be there a bunny rabbit?
[10:39] <DJ-_-> logmein: thx
[10:39] <aberry5555> I'm using a .inf driver to make it work, the problem Im having is a common one and is easily resolved by upgrading to a version of ndiswrapper newer than the repos, but I cant because it seems to be inlcuded in the kernel.
[10:39] <aberry5555> logmein: I didnt compile it, I swear
[10:40] <logmein> aberry5555: grab ndiswrapper source and do make uninstall then
[10:40] <Kaur> What program is responsible for registering the pushes of power/sleep buttons?
[10:40] <logmein> aberry5555: then do make clean
[10:40] <bullgard4> Frogzoo: Your answer is wrong. /etc/network/interfaces  is no routing table.
[10:42] <Andiamo> hello , I need help please.
[10:42] <bezak> Andiamo: hi there whats up
[10:42] <Kaur> speak up
[10:42] <Andiamo> How can I work on Evolution Mail?
[10:42] <Kaur> ?
[10:42] <Ayabara> what to I need to install to get man-entries for c-functions like fwrite?
[10:42] <Andiamo> I am a member of Hotmail.com
[10:42] <bezak> Andiamo: what do you mean, how to use it?
[10:42] <Ve0> hello
[10:42] <Andiamo> yes
[10:42] <marfeath> Ayabara, manpages-ev
[10:42] <marfeath> Ayabara, manpages-dev*
[10:43] <askand>  I use the mountingapplet in the gnomepanel...but recently it started showing  a icon all the time and if I click it I get an "mount cdrom 1" option..how to get rid of the icon?
[10:43] <Ayabara> marfeath, thx
[10:43] <marfeath> your welcome
[10:43] <DJ-_-> logmein: i have puppy linux...but then its fdisk is totally different...so how do i give the syntax to fdisk everything
[10:43] <bezak> Andiamo: I'm not sure if you can use evolution with hotmail, try having a look on google
[10:43] <Andiamo> It's my frtist time I open Evolution mail
[10:44] <shaf> hello
[10:45] <shaf> anybody here?
[10:45] <Kaur> about...
[10:45] <Kaur> 1000 people
[10:45] <bezak> shaf: yep
[10:45] <Andiamo> Thanks , I will
[10:45] <shaf> yes, but it's like nobody is writing here
[10:45] <shaf> a 100 people and nobody is chatting
[10:45] <bezak> shaf: a momentary lulll
[10:45] <shaf> 1000
[10:46] <DJ-_->  i have puppy linux...but then its fdisk is totally different...so how do i give the syntax to fdisk everything
[10:46] <shaf> so, how are you? (Everybody).... :-)
[10:46] <bezak> DJ-_-: man fdisk will tell you all its options
[10:47] <bezak> shaf: haha good
[10:47] <gordonjcp> shaf: it's around 10am
[10:47] <gordonjcp> shaf: half the world is in bed and half the world is at work
[10:47] <shaf> jap. Where you from?
[10:47] <shaf> lol
[10:47] <serenecloud> why won't vim 7.0 accept :syn on or :syntax on ?
[10:47] <gordonjcp> serenecloud: aha
[10:47] <Andiamo> Egypt cairo , Pyramids st.
[10:47] <gordonjcp> serenecloud: you haven't installed the right package, but I can't remember which one you need
[10:48] <DJ-_-> bezak: i tried but then fdisk -s /dev/hda gives me some codes like the last one was : 6297480
[10:48] <gordonjcp> serenecloud: do "dpkg -l vim*" and see what you've got
[10:48] <bezak> DJ-_-: sry man i'm not sure how it works
[10:48] <serenecloud> ii vim-common 7.0-164+1ubunt Vi IMproved - Common files
[10:48] <serenecloud> ?
[10:48] <gordonjcp> serenecloud: that it?
[10:48] <serenecloud> not sure
[10:48] <DJ-_-> anyone know why fdisk -s /dev/hda gives me some codes like the last one was : 6297480
[10:48] <serenecloud> or vim-full
[10:49] <serenecloud> or vim-gnome
[10:49] <gordonjcp> serenecloud: have you got vim installed, just plain vim with nothing after it?
[10:49] <serenecloud> correct, this machine just has feisty + updates
[10:50] <infernal_jesus> why does apt-get want to delete 165mb of files and only download 33mb when installing python-twisted
[10:50] <gordonjcp> serenecloud:
[10:50] <gordonjcp> serenecloud: http://pastebin.ca/558185
[10:50] <gordonjcp> what on that list do you have?
[10:51] <infernal_jesus> gordonjcp: you talking to me? :P lol
[10:51] <gordonjcp> infernal_jesus: not unless you can't get vim hilighting to work?
[10:51] <infernal_jesus> gordonjcp: ok sorry
[10:51] <serenecloud> gordonjcp: http://ninja.crimson.net.nz/output
[10:51] <ihmselbst> hi
[10:51] <gordonjcp> infernal_jesus: I don't know without looking at what packages it's trying to delete and what it's trying to install
[10:51] <gordonjcp> infernal_jesus: and even then... ;-)
[10:51] <gordonjcp> infernal_jesus: the ways of apt are often mysterious
[10:52] <shaf> is this chat like mirc? where you can download stuff?
[10:52] <shaf> I'm ne here... sorry
[10:52] <shaf> new
[10:52] <serenecloud> appears all except vim?
[10:52] <ihmselbst> i can't compile intltool. How can i make that? ./configure      make       sudo make install ??
[10:52] <infernal_jesus> gordonjcp: it wants to remove abiword-gnome bluefish, gnome-office, gnome-panel, gnome-system-monitor, a lot of gnome packages
[10:52] <shaf> :-/
[10:52] <serenecloud> ben@keiu:~$ vim --version
[10:52] <serenecloud> VIM - Vi IMproved 7.0 (2006 May 7, compiled May 22 2007 21:10:57)
[10:52] <steel|Emzet> hi all ;o
[10:52] <gordonjcp> infernal_jesus: woah, no idea
[10:53] <shaf> hi
[10:53] <steel|Emzet> 1072 usuers
[10:53] <steel|Emzet> _-_
[10:53] <steel|Emzet> ...3 :)
[10:53] <gordonjcp> serenecloud: you need to install vim
[10:53] <serenecloud> doing it now, but why did --version say vim 7.0?
[10:53] <gordonjcp> 'cos there are different vim packages
[10:54] <gordonjcp> I *think* Ubuntu ships with vim-tiny
[10:54] <DJ-_-> is there a way i can schedule a fsck at boot time?
[10:54] <serenecloud> ah, there we go
[10:54] <serenecloud> <3 syntax highlighting
[10:54] <serenecloud> thanks :)
[10:55] <gordonjcp> np
[10:55] <serenecloud> got any ideas on how to set window panel windows to a fixed width like windows does?
[10:55] <Andiamo> I installed Linux Ubuntu 7.4 without swap space. Is that wrong?
[10:55] <infernal_jesus> Andiamo: how much ram do you have?
[10:55] <Andiamo> 512 + 256
[10:55] <jjjj> hello i installed kubuntu feisty and i was really confused why I cant install firefox using ad/remove programs...other programs are also grayed and unselectable...it seems that the cd as well as my installation doesn't contain the packages...is this normal? uhmm one thing, I installed kubuntu not by using a CD but by copying the installer to the harddrive then editing my previous grub options to boot in the casper/initrd images...does that affect how my programs in
[10:55] <DJ-_-> Andiamo: what is ur ram specification
[10:56] <infernal_jesus> Andiamo: hm.. then you might need some swap space
[10:56] <Andiamo> and My vga card is build in , so it's need 128 of ram
[10:56] <infernal_jesus> use fdisk and create som
[10:56] <infernal_jesus> *some
[10:56] <Andiamo> I will install it a gain
[10:57] <Andiamo> but I want to learn How
[10:57] <DJ-_-> is xubuntu 7.04 having a lot of bugs? cuz i see some....or is 6.06 xubuntu better?
[10:57] <ihmselbst> ./configure      make       sudo make install ?? <- to compile ?!
[10:57] <spheard> Im trying to compile php5 from source but I'm getting "make[1] : *** [install-pear-installer]  Segmentation fault", Apt-get refuses to install php5 even with -f  The following packages have unmet dependencies:  php5: Depends: libapache2-mod-php5 (>= 5.2.0-8+etch4) but; 5.2.0-8+etch3 is to be installed or; libapache-mod-php5 (>= 5.2.0-8+etch4) but it is not; going to be installed or; php5-cgi (>= 5.2.0-8+etch4) but 5.2.0-8+etch3 is to; be installe
[10:57] <Andiamo> what is the deffrent between fx2 and fx 3
[10:57] <ihmselbst> *help*
[10:58] <bezak> ihmselbst: what?
[10:58] <Andiamo> the file syetem of ubuntu
[10:58] <olaf_> i'm about to make the switch to ubuntu
[10:58] <olaf_> weee (:
[10:58] <bezak> olaf_: w00t
[10:58] <ihmselbst> i want to install intltool
[10:58] <ihmselbst> bezak,
[10:58] <bezak> ihmselbst: yep
[10:58] <erUSUL> spheard: etch ?? mixing repositories ??
[10:58] <jenda> olaf_: good luck ;) I hope you'll like it.
[10:58] <olaf_> :)
[10:58] <ihmselbst> i haved download it and now i write in a terminal ./configure
[10:59] <olaf_> okay, this is going to seem like a dumb/easy question
[10:59] <bezak> ihmselbst: good
[10:59] <olaf_> but i want to be able to like... lock my computer like in Windows with a password and everything
[10:59] <CheshireViking> !ext3 | Andiamo
[10:59] <ubotu> Andiamo: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[10:59] <Andiamo> yes
[10:59] <olaf_> so i can walk away and flip off the monitor
[10:59] <ihmselbst> then make, then make install.. but he didn't change to version 0.35.5
[10:59] <Andiamo> yes Olaf
[10:59] <olaf_> how can i go about setting up a password/lock screen and stuff in Ubuntu?
[10:59] <infernal_jesus> olaf_: System > Lock Screen :)
[10:59] <Andiamo> Is that the best ? !ext3
[10:59] <bezak> olaf_: i think if you turn on the screensaver
[10:59] <ihmselbst> i want to install kiba-dock, it needs intltools 0.35.0...
[10:59] <olaf_> how can i set a password to the default user?
[10:59] <Andiamo> for ubuntu 7.4
[10:59] <bezak> olaf_: then set a password
[11:00] <Frogzoo> olaf_: sys -> prefs -> screen saver
[11:00] <olaf_> alright, thanks
[11:00] <bezak> olaf_: default user has a password already
[11:00] <olaf_> i'm converting some of my music from WMA to FLAC
[11:00] <olaf_> so i can hear all my music
[11:00] <olaf_> whilest in my new operating system
[11:00] <olaf_> WMA codec is apparently a bit bitchy in ubuntu
[11:00] <olaf_> and FLAC's better anyway
[11:01] <DJ-_-> what are the most needed services for xubuntu...a low resource machine..
[11:01] <Andiamo> What is the real fast !ext3 or ext2 ?
[11:01] <bezak> Andiamo: use ext3
[11:01] <Ve0> hiduk!
[11:01] <Andiamo> Thank you
[11:01] <bezak> Andiamo: i dont think ext2 has journaling
[11:01] <void^> wma isn't lossless, so converting to flac is a painful waste of diskspace :/
[11:01] <Ve0>    ?
[11:01] <olaf_> void^: WMA Lossless
[11:01] <Ve0> ?
[11:01] <corecode> hey
[11:01] <erUSUL> olaf_: a lossy format (wma) to a lossless format (flac)? not very wise is it?
[11:01] <olaf_> there are two WMAs
[11:01] <spheard> erUSUL: Just trying to get help from anywhere. not getting much help from #debian
[11:01] <Ds2C> hello
[11:01] <jjjj> ext3 i think...I have read that for harddisk greater then 6 gigabytes, ext3 is preffered because it will prevent frequent disk checks...
[11:02] <olaf_> i'm talking about WMA(L)
[11:02] <corecode> my middle button doesn't paste in firefox, any clues?
[11:02] <corecode> it works in xterm
[11:02] <void^> olaf_: really? okay.. never seen a lossless wma -  but i do avoid wma like the plague anyway :)
[11:02] <olaf_> yeah, i guess it was new to like... media player 9 or something
[11:03] <olaf_> you can rip from 96kbps to lossless
[11:03] <olaf_> or something like that
[11:03] <jjjj> ext3 i think...I have read that for harddisk greater then 6 gigabytes, ext3 is preffered because it will prevent frequent disk checks...
[11:04] <olaf_> i love how ubuntu recognizes everything out of the box on my computer but windows doesn't
[11:04] <Andiamo> I have a hard disk , four partitions . The first I will make it ext3 , but the next three partitions are Fat32. Did I must make all my partitions !ext3?
[11:04] <corecode> middlemouse
[11:04] <tuxcrafter> can someone post his output of this command please
[11:04] <tuxcrafter> ls -al /usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf\
[11:04] <tuxcrafter> ls -al /usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf
[11:04] <Andiamo> or not important?
[11:05] <hawk> cowbud: Odd....
[11:06] <hawk> Andiamo: You should have the system itself on ext3 or other linuxy filesystem (xfs, jfs, ...) at the very least...
[11:06] <void^> Andiamo: not important if you can live with fat32.
[11:06] <hawk> fat32 is quite sucky, but I guess it's useful for interoperability with Windows...
[11:06] <Andiamo> Yeah
[11:07] <Andiamo> Thanks for helping us
[11:07] <olaf_> us? schizophrenic?
[11:07] <tuxcrafter> ls -al /usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf
[11:07] <tuxcrafter> sombody that can give me his output
[11:07] <hawk> olaf_: The royal "us", maybe? ;)
[11:07] <tuxcrafter> if he has a cups-pdf installed of corse
[11:08] <olaf_> lol
[11:12] <fotoflo> wow, kde with the proper video drivers is SO MUCH BETTER then gnome
[11:14] <blue|palm> !jre
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <blue|palm> !java
[11:14] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[11:21] <keck0f> hi
[11:21] <bezak> hey
[11:21] <White-Demon> hello keck0f
[11:22] <keck0f> how can i enable "X11 forwarding" in ssh-server? /etc/ssh/sshd_config already has got the line "X11Forwarding yes" by default.
[11:23] <void^> it should be enabled then
[11:23] <tuxcrafter> http://www.oooforum.org/
[11:24] <bezak> tuxcrafter: dont spam
[11:24] <olaf_> copying all my stuff to my external usb drive before installing ubuntu over everything is going to suck
[11:24] <tuxcrafter> bezak: does the website work with you?
[11:24] <keck0f> void^: do i have to install some more packages to use this feature? (i only installed "openssh-server" and "xterm" till now.)
[11:24] <bezak> olaf_: haha yes backing up is a pain
[11:25] <olaf_> but hey, i'm glad i have this external HDD
[11:25] <bslote> Is there a way to allow a process to use both cores of a dual core processor?
[11:25] <olaf_> (:
[11:25] <bezak> olaf_: yeah i think i will turn one of my hdds external wehn i buy a new one
[11:25] <void^> keck0f: no
[11:25] <olaf_> i have a nice Seagate USB 80GB
[11:26] <bezak> olaf_: yeah ive got a 120 in my comp atm thats full, prolly gonna replace it with a 500 gig, then use the 120 for external
[11:26] <olaf_> well, i just got DSL again
[11:26] <ihmselbst> hi, where can a get Intltool 0.35.0 or newer fr Feisty Fawn amd64 ??
[11:26] <olaf_> AOL prevented me from ever using *nix
[11:26] <olaf_> nah mean?
[11:27] <skyion> Hi There, Im having trouble picking up a USB drive, I plug it in and it picks up on dmesg but not in gnome
[11:27] <gordonjcp> skyion: have you tried mounting it "by hand"?
[11:27] <bezak> olaf_: how come, cos its slow
[11:28] <olaf_> nah, don't wanna mess with dial-up on *nix
[11:28] <olaf_> and AOL uses a proprietary dial-up protocol
[11:28] <bezak> olaf_: ah ok, my dad runs ubuntu in vanuatu on dial up
[11:28] <bezak> olaf_: ah ok
[11:29] <olaf_> but now i have a modern computer, dsl, and i'm tired of microsoft
[11:29] <bezak> olaf_: well i hope you enjoy uubuntu land
[11:30] <olaf_> well, the most recent live cd was *awesome*
[11:30] <olaf_> i tried back in 5 or 6.0 or something
[11:30] <olaf_> and it barely worked worth a damn
[11:30] <olaf_> but 7.04 kicks some ass
[11:30] <maeth> im trying to access my samba shared folder via wifi in my pocketpc but with no success...
[11:31] <bezak> maeth: what security setting have you got set in your smb.conf
[11:32] <maeth> bezak, where is this smb.conf?
[11:32] <maeth> bezak, (usually)
[11:33] <bezak> /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:34] <bezak> maeth: if youre just on a home network, you can set your security to "share" that might reduce your problems
[11:35] <maeth> k , gonna check
[11:35] <ziroday> does anyone have a guide for ubuntu 7.04 or even better xubuntu 7.04 installation off thumbdrive. And dont give ubotu its guides are out of date, thanks
[11:35] <bezak> ziroday: haha i'm not sure mate
[11:36] <ziroday> anyone else?
[11:36] <ziroday> please
[11:36] <bezak> ziroday: /me thinks everyone else is asleep
[11:36] <maeth> bezak, is it posible that password encryption is the problem?
[11:37] <bezak> maeth: could be, i'm by no means a samba expert
[11:37] <bezak> :D
[11:37] <maeth> bezak, allthough , i cant find the server when trying to access it
[11:37] <bezak> maeth: but you can ping it right?
[11:38] <maeth> havent tried (im on a pocketpc) =)
[11:39] <bezak> maeth: ah ok well try make sure that you can at least ping the pc first, so you know that they can takl
[11:39] <bezak> *talk
[11:40] <mok_> 1
[11:40] <omegacenti> yo
[11:41] <bezak> hey
[11:43] <anathematic> =) hi i'm running ubuntu desktop 7.04 and a radeon x800 pro, i'm unable to get the native resolution for my lcd, where should i read up to fix this?
[11:43] <bezak> anathematic: do you have the standard or prop. drivers installed
[11:43] <magnetron> !fixres | anathematic
[11:44] <ubotu> anathematic: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:44] <erUSUL> !fixres | anathematic
[11:44] <anathematic> bezak: i believe i have the standard ones installed
[11:44] <erUSUL> !ati | anathematic
[11:44] <magnetron> erUSUL: i beat you to it
[11:44] <anathematic> i have enabled the restricted drivers
[11:44] <bezak> anathematic: follow te bots instructions
[11:44] <magnetron> anathematic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:44] <ubotu> anathematic: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:44] <anathematic> thanks i'll have a ready now
[11:44] <erUSUL> magnetron: ;P
[11:45] <anathematic> and what is a decent irc bot? =\
[11:45] <anathematic> for linux
[11:45] <anathematic> i've got xchat on here but it sucks ass
[11:45] <bezak> anathematic: you mean client?
[11:45] <Jimmey> You can use Gaim for IRC, anathematic
[11:45] <anathematic> yes sorry
[11:45] <anathematic> oh i didn't think of trying gaim for irc ty
[11:45] <bezak> bezak: i use irssi :)
[11:46] <soulwinter> bezak: hardcore :D
[11:46] <serenecloud> XChat grows on you
[11:46] <bezak> soulwinter: lol :)
[11:46] <serenecloud> not enough to stop em running mIRC on wine
[11:46] <serenecloud> *me
[11:46] <fotoflo> hmm, im having a wierd problem - i have a website that im trying to work on, and i can access it from my windows box but not my kubuntu box, both boxes are sharing the same internet connection
[11:47] <bezak> serenecloud: wow you must really love mirc
[11:47] <dvm> how can we get the serial no of use/flash drive?
[11:47] <serenecloud> bezak: miRC + NoNameScript, and yes
[11:47] <fotoflo> the kubuntu box gets a really wierd response, it looks like a script is bieng run on some other computer, i whosed the computer and it's at my ISP
[11:48] <jamiehd> Is it just me, or has pidgin vanished from repos
[11:48] <bezak> jamiehd: it flew away :)
[11:48] <Frogzoo> fotoflo: hacks are pretty rare, usually these things are just something you didn't expect
[11:48] <jamiehd> To where? I want to install it :P
[11:48] <fotoflo> Frogzoo, right
[11:49] <fotoflo> Frogzoo, what could it be??
[11:49] <soulwinter> Wine wine wine
[11:49] <soulwinter> neeed sum1 who err can help me with wine
[11:49] <bezak> jamiehd: no idea
[11:49] <alaQ> jamiehd: I had to add in a different repo for pidgin.
[11:49] <bezak> jamiehd: :D
[11:49] <fotoflo> Frogzoo, the site is resolving from the kubuntu box
[11:49] <jamiehd> ok, I thought they were all unhashed, I'll go check
[11:49] <Jimmey> soulwinter, what's the problem
[11:49] <fotoflo> theres nothing about it in /etc/hosts
[11:49] <magnetron> Wine is really one of the most impressing free software projects
[11:50] <bezak> magnetron: i respectfully disagree
[11:50] <bezak> magnetron: :)
[11:50] <osfameron> I've never got Wine to install usefully on Ubuntu...
[11:50] <DJ-_-> Frogzoo: my xubuntu's shutdown process fails on a p3 500mhz 128mb ram
[11:50] <magnetron> bexak, how come?=
[11:50] <osfameron> it always had the wrong version of something or other and just didn't work
[11:50] <soulwinter> Jimmey: cannot find a qip version < 8000, cannot start warcraft 3 tft, cannot start world of warcraft
[11:50] <magnetron> osfameron: it's easy to install
[11:50] <bezak> magnetron: haha because lots of stuff doesn't work.
[11:50] <dvm> how can we get the serial no of use/flash drive?
[11:51] <soulwinter> and yes, i read a bunch of tutorials and beryl, glrx and stuff is working (this is was my ubuntu says)
[11:51] <osfameron> magnetron: oh, right.   I must have just wasted several hours failing to get it to do anything useful, twice, for no good reason then :-)
[11:51] <DJ-_-> magnetron: my xubuntu's shutdown process fails on a p3 500mhz 128mb ram....i was on earlier too but no response...guess they did not know...any ideas man?
[11:51] <jamiehd> pidgin:
[11:51] <jamiehd> Package pidgin has no available version, but exists in the database.
[11:51] <jamiehd> This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list
[11:51] <fog_proxy> Hi all. I want to gpg to add password protection for a tar file, is there any option to assign the password with command line? or use a script to auto do that?
[11:51] <osfameron> magnetron: I think wine itself installed, but the packiage to get IE etc. on it didn't work
[11:52] <magnetron> bezak: i would estimate they have implemented like 90% of the APIs of windows
[11:52] <magnetron> bezak: that your game doesn't work in wine is not that strange
[11:52] <Frogzoo> fotoflo: man gpg
[11:52] <bezak> magnetron: haha i know, i was j/k
[11:52] <Frogzoo> fog_proxy: man gpg (soz fotoflo)
[11:53] <bezak> magnetron: its just that they are fighting an uphill battle, and it will always be a race that they are losing.
[11:53] <fog_proxy> Frogzoo: I have searched the man page, but failed to find the option
[11:53] <fog_proxy> Frogzoo: that is why I come for help :/
[11:53] <magnetron> bezak: why? will MS change the API?
[11:53] <bezak> bezak: for example.
[11:54] <erUSUL> fog_proxy: gpg -c file  (to protect it with symmetric encryption)
[11:54] <magnetron> bezak: they can't do that, that would break the compatibility
[11:54] <erUSUL> fog_proxy: and yes it comes very clearly in the man page ;)
[11:54] <amaache> hello how to make keyboard qwerty(en-us) to azerty (fr-fr)?
[11:54] <fog_proxy> erUSUL: I see, but I want assign the password by auto(no need input)
[11:54] <dukedave> Coo, look at this shiny new xchat :)
[11:55] <magnetron> amaache: System > Preferences > Keyboard
[11:55] <alaQ> amaache: system > Preferences > keyboard, under the layouts tab.
[11:55] <magnetron> congratulations, dukedave!
[11:55] <fog_proxy> erUSUL: e.g. a option to assign password '-p', then I can do this, 'gpg -c filename -p mypassword'
[11:55] <amaache> in xsession?
[11:56] <magnetron> fog_proxy: i recommend using seahorse for gpg management
[11:56] <fotoflo> frogzoo: any idea why it appears like my ISP is intercepting a request for a certain website on my ubuntu box, but not on my windows box?
[11:56] <Jimmey> fotoflo, what address is the website?
[11:56] <DJ-_-> ok I am currently running a p3 1ghz 256mb ram on xp and having some servers on it..... I m planning to chg it to xubuntu...i got the alternate cd and i am starting now.,...if i need any help i hope i get response lol
[11:56] <serenecloud> fotoflo: do you have a URL?
[11:56] <fotoflo> www.kuaibbs.com
[11:57] <magnetron> fotoflo: someone, not the ISP, is doing a MITM on you?
[11:57] <fotoflo> MITM ?
[11:57] <bezak> man in the midde
[11:57] <serenecloud> fotoflo: both XP and Ubuntu dapper get it fine for me
[11:57] <dukedave> Man, don't know whether to submit a bug but had a usability pain with the "Keyboard Indicator" applet; namely the fact that by default the layout is Window specific. Suppose there must be some sanity behind not having it global by default :|
[11:57] <magnetron> fotoflo: man in the middle/monkey in the middle
[11:58] <serenecloud> i doubt it would be OS based
[11:58] <fotoflo> i get pointed to this page when i try to load from ubuntu: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8088/response.asp?MT=www.kuaibbs.com
[11:59] <magnetron> fotoflo: that isn't your isp, that is your national firewall
[11:59] <c_> How do I set a script to run in the terminal each time it is opened?
[11:59] <serenecloud> I bet your windows version is cached
[11:59] <magnetron> c_: make a "launcher"
[11:59] <fotoflo> is that what you all get?
[11:59] <dukedave> DJ-_-: Should be fine, of course, if you're using the live CD you can always install xchat and come back in here while it's installing :)
[12:00] <fotoflo> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8088/response.asp?MT=www.kuaibbs.com   <---
[12:00] <c_> It needs to run on start up.
[12:00] <serenecloud> fotoflo: I get a site with many colourful boxes
[12:00] <fog_proxy> How to use bash script to auto input the password for 'gpg -c file' prompt?
[12:00] <alaQ> c_: you can add it to one of your .initrc file in your home directory.
[12:00] <fotoflo> serenecloud, yeah, thats what you should be getting
[12:00] <fotoflo> thats what i get on my windows box
[12:00] <serenecloud> fotoflo: from both windows and linux
[12:00] <fog_proxy> I tried ' <<EOF password password EOF '  but not work
[12:01] <fotoflo> still the right site on windows
[12:01] <fotoflo> i think i havea  bad setting on my linux box
[12:01] <DJ-_-> dukedave: thx atleast 1 response
[12:03] <DJ-_-> brb
[12:03] <dukedave> Heh, well it was a rather open-ended question. Would have made sense 5 years ago but these days with lots of distros which Really Work you have to be a bit more specific ;)
[12:03] <magnetron> fotoflo: try this DNS server: <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:04] <magnetron> fotoflo: http://www.opendns.com/start/ubuntu.php
[12:04] <serenecloud> fotoflo: what does this site say: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ ?
[12:04] <fotoflo> serenecloud, that looks like baidu
[12:05] <serenecloud> your MT=... URL sent me that script
[12:05] <serenecloud> since my IE doesn't run Javascript it didn't do anything, but that URL was in it
[12:05] <fotoflo> baidu (china's google) says that it cant request from that address
[12:05] <serenecloud> I see
[12:05] <serenecloud> i'll PM you the script
[12:05] <doug_> Anyone have experience using windows based e-books with embedded midi files?
[12:05] <olaf_> if i install from the ubuntu live cd
[12:05] <olaf_> versus the install cd
[12:06] <olaf_> will install any differently?
[12:06] <magnetron> olaf_: no
[12:06] <olaf_> okay
[12:06] <dukedave> olaf_: You might be slightly more bored with the install CD :)
[12:06] <alaQ> olaf_: the installs will be the same - the only difference is that one puts you into the live environment.
[12:06] <magnetron> doug_: in what format is the e-book?
[12:07] <thedrummer> what should i do to change standart icon of "main menu" panel ?
[12:07] <fotoflo> magnetron
[12:07] <olaf_> but if i'm using it as my permanent desktop
[12:07] <doug_> Magnetron how can I tell what the format is?
[12:07] <olaf_> nevermind
[12:07] <magnetron> doug_: ask the one who distributed the e-book
[12:08] <fotoflo> magnetron, where do i put my dns server?
[12:08] <magnetron> fotoflo: http://www.opendns.com/start/ubuntu.php
[12:08] <doug_> Magnetron hold on and I will take a look on the website for the ebook compiler software
[12:09] <magnetron> doug_: what is the website?
[12:09] <fotoflo> cool
[12:10] <Maverynthia> :E
[12:11] <doug_> Magnetron here is what it says on the web site: Simply create a set HTML files containing the information you want to sell, and then run Activ E-Book Compiler - and you'll have a self-contained Windows Program (".EXE") which users can download and run, to view your E-Book. You can even restrict access to parts of your E-Book with passwords, include links to relevant web sites, or sell advertising space in your E-Book.
[12:11] <fotoflo> wow found the problem!
[12:11] <doug_> Anybody with Windows 95 or better, and Internet Explorer 4 or later, which is of course the vast majority of web surfers, can use your E-Books.
[12:11] <fotoflo> for some reason "kuaibbs.com" was in my search domains
[12:11] <fotoflo> thanks guys
[12:11] <magnetron> doug_: so it is a .EXE , a windows program
[12:12] <magnetron> doug_: a windows application that is
[12:12] <doug_> yes it is.
[12:12] <doug_> And it would seem that it is in html format
[12:12] <doug_> with embedded midi files.
[12:12] <magnetron> doug_: it's not both an EXE and HTML in the same time?
[12:13] <Flyinion> hey all, anyone familiar with Ubuntu Studio and Nvidia drivers?
[12:13] <doug_> The website is http://www.ebookcompiler.com/
[12:13] <doug_> Actually I think it is both an .exe and in html format.
[12:13] <magnetron> doug_: if it's in html format, then just find the .html and double-click it in firefox
[12:14] <Sarazar> hi all.... anyone here know udev well?
[12:14] <magnetron> !anyone | Sarazar
[12:14] <ubotu> Sarazar: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:14] <Plantain> Compiz or Beryl?
[12:14] <doug_> But the html is bound up in the .exe.
[12:15] <magnetron> doug_: then it's not html
[12:15] <predaeus> doug_, probably it just runs IE on the contained html.
[12:15] <Sarazar> ok... how do I get udev to start synce-serial-start when my ipaq is plugged in the ubuntu forum solution no longer works
[12:16] <doug_> Predaeus is there any way I could get it to run with Ubuntu?
[12:16] <magnetron> you can run some windows programs in ubuntu, using Wine. Wine is a compatibility layer that let's you run windows applications.
[12:16] <doug_> I will try that first, Magnetron.
[12:17] <magnetron> !wine | doug_
[12:17] <ubotu> doug_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:17] <magnetron> doug_: could you give us an URL to a sample e-book in that format?
[12:17] <doug_> Thanks guys.
[12:17] <_Carlo_> hi, is it possible to set an umask permission just to a directory and not the whole filesystem?
[12:18] <predaeus> doug_, if you have more information about the format you can probably just strip the binary executable part of the file and open the rest as a regular html file.
[12:18] <magnetron> predaeus: reverse engineer, you are? :) i guess it's in zip format
[12:19] <dromer> hi all, I just read that nvidia twinview should be easy now with feisty .. but when I use the nvidia-settings .. my 2nd screen is detected, but I can't see where to enable twinview ..
[12:19] <doug_> No it is just an .exe file - but I can't send it to you because it violates the user agreement.
[12:19] <alaQ> Sarazar: if you have a little practice in scripting, you can define a rule for it in the /etc/udev/rules.d/ directory.  Not something I'd play around lightly with though.
[12:20] <thedrummer> can somebody tell me the easiest way to install firefox flash plug-in for amd64 ?
[12:20] <doug_> Thanks very much guys, I appreciate the help.
[12:20] <Sarazar> alaQ, I have a udev rule file for it.. it used to work but no longer seemed to stop with fiesty
[12:20] <predaeus> magnetron, probably yea :-)    no not really just thinking about possibilities.
[12:21] <alaQ> Sarazar: hrm.  How does the rule file ID the device?
[12:21] <magnetron> predaeus: that IS reverse engineering
[12:21] <predaeus> magnetron, :-)
[12:22] <alaQ> thedrummer: check ubuntuguide.org - it's got a lot of tips for setting things up like that.
[12:22] <Sarazar> thats what has me baffled udev no longer seems to run the rules.. udev is seeing the ipaq and Id'in iit fine.. doesnt seem to hit the rule file though
[12:22] <Plantain> which one should I install? :S
[12:22] <thedrummer> thx
[12:22] <ziroday> Plantain: beryl
[12:23] <Plantain> ziroday: So Compiz merged into Beryl rather than Beryl into Compiz?
[12:23] <bezak> Plantain: if you want lots of plugins beryl, if you want any semblance of stability with a few plugins, compiz
[12:23] <ziroday> Plantain: plus theyre merged now so it dosnt matter
[12:23] <Plantain> Which one is the master project?
[12:23] <bezak> Plantain: neither theyre merging
[12:23] <alaQ> Plantain, ziroday:  As I know it, Compiz came first, Beryl forked.
[12:23] <ziroday> Plantain: right now theyre still merging
[12:23] <alaQ> oh, they're merging now?
[12:23] <Dimensions> hiya ... how do i remove RSA keys identification from a ubuntu system ??
[12:23] <Sarazar> ahh..... I wonder if its hitting and earlier rules file and stopping... let me check
[12:23] <Plantain> Yeah, I know they're merging, I'm just not sure which one is going to be the 'new' one. (Will Beryl disappear or Compiz?)
[12:24] <bezak> beryl was a compiz fork, now its merging back together
[12:24] <ziroday> alaQ: yeah beryl stole most of Compiz's userbase with the flashy features :)
[12:24] <bezak> to become BERPIZ!!!
[12:24] <ziroday> Plantain: new name i think
[12:24] <predaeus> see http://compiz.org/ for details
[12:24] <ziroday> Plantain: gonna have a face lift like gaim > pidgin
[12:24] <alaQ> they don't have a name yet - forums are up at www.opencompositing.org.
[12:24] <hgh> I just installed Nexuiz but when I start a game the character looks upp, I can look around with the mouse but it looks up right away. It's like some key is pressed in so it looks up and rotates on its own. Any ideas on what to do?
[12:25] <Plantain> I think I'll just avoid it for a while
[12:25] <ziroday> hgh: look down?
[12:25] <Plantain> wait until there's an new project
[12:25] <predaeus> hgh, have you got a joystick with throttle plugged?
[12:25] <predaeus> hgh, then zero the throttle
[12:25] <ziroday> Plantain: you shouldnt its awesome
[12:25] <Plantain> ziroday: But it's not going to be more than a few weeks, is it?
[12:26] <alaQ> ziroday: some moved to beryl because of Compiz's ties with Novell.
[12:26] <hgh> predaeus: it's turned off but I'll unplug it and try again
[12:26] <predaeus> hgh, just an idea, had that with some other game
[12:26] <fotoflo> weird, that site opens in konqueror, but not in FF
[12:26] <ziroday> alaQ: yeah and that compiz wasnt investigating the flashy features
[12:26] <odyssey> how do i install wine, i have synaptic open and the universe repo enabled and its just not there
[12:26] <ziroday> Plantain: dunno it could be a while
[12:26] <ziroday> Plantain: plus beryl is stable enough
[12:26] <fotoflo> cleared the cache, works now
[12:27] <predaeus> odyssey, if you are on amd64 you will have to do a workaround as wine is 32bit only I think
[12:27] <Frogzoo> !wine | odyssey: use the budgetdedicated repo
[12:27] <ubotu> odyssey: use the budgetdedicated repo: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:27] <hgh> Nope, still looks upp and turns to the right
[12:27] <predaeus> hgh, hm no idea, try scanning their forums
[12:29] <k0rnz> how do I update my apt-get sources to allow me to install Automatix2?
[12:29] <k0rnz> I tried this howto http://www.softsift.com/200704/automatix2-11-310-for-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn.html but it does not work
[12:29] <Frogzoo> k0rnz: automatix isn't supported here -> #automatix
[12:30] <k0rnz> ok thanks
[12:30] <PriceChild> !automatix | k0rnz
[12:30] <ubotu> k0rnz: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:30] <alaQ> ziroday: apparently, on the opencompositing forums, the most popular new name for Beryl/compiz is Coral
[12:30] <being_free> Hmmm
[12:30] <ziroday> alaQ: lol
[12:30] <k0rnz> !WorksForMe
[12:30] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:30] <being_free> OK
[12:31] <Myrtti> that's lovely name
[12:31] <k0rnz> !WorksForMe Automatix2
[12:31] <being_free> Cool!
[12:32] <being_free> Yeah
[12:33] <zipper> Anyone managed to find a way to use ALL buttons on a logitech MX510 or MX518 mouse? I cant seem to find any good guides for it on the web
[12:33] <haf> I hope that there will soon be an official apt rep for the new Beryl/Coral :)
[12:34] <pbn> Hello, I have just installed ubuntu on a dual-cpu machine, and cat /proc/cpuinfo sees only one processor ! What can I do ?
[12:34] <zipper> pbn: i think you need to install a SMP kernel
[12:34] <dromer> hi all, having trouble getting X to start up, I did some minor tweaking to xorg.conf just now, but didn't work, so changed it back .. now X wont come up
[12:34] <pbn> zipper: ah :)
[12:34] <dromer> I get the ubuntu-splash and that's it ..
[12:35] <pbn> zipper: I need to apt-cache search smp kernel, then apt-get install, and reboot, that's all ?
[12:35] <zipper> pbn: i would believe so, yes. Actually, i need to do that myself too now we're talking about it
[12:35] <pbn> zipper: heh :)
[12:35] <zipper> hmm
[12:36] <zipper> pbn: linux-686-smp is apparently obsolete
[12:36] <pbn> zipper: wait, this is Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[12:36] <defrysk> the generic kernel also supports smp
[12:36] <pbn> defrysk: the generic kernel... on feisty I guess heh ?
[12:37] <zipper> pbn: oooh... i'm using feisty, but it seems like the package has been replaced by "linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic"
[12:37] <defrysk> dapper I am not sure of but I believe smp is supported by default.
[12:37] <tom__> Hey guys, i've just isntalled xinetd (to get SWAT working), but now i cant seem to use any of the gnome admin tools... :S http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6417/toolsbeingapainvv5.png
[12:37] <zipper> defrysk: i'm pretty sure i didnt have smp support by default on my dual-core intel d805 when running dapper
[12:38] <defrysk> zipper, as I said....
[12:38] <defrysk> it means I could be wrong
[12:38] <Hor|zon> on dapper you have to select the smp kernel after install, well I did back then
[12:38] <zipper> heh, same could i.... only "pretty" sure :)
[12:38] <Hor|zon> then from edgy you used generic
[12:39] <defrysk> yes
[12:39] <defrysk> looks like it
[12:39] <predaeus> probably look for SMP options in the kernel config in /boot   like if CONFIG_SMP=y  or so, not sure what options are needed
[12:39] <predaeus> CONFIG_SMP=y on feisty
[12:40] <predaeus> mind that those are compile time options and will not result in changes to your system if you change them now
[12:41] <predaeus> they config files are just provided by the kernel packages for reference on what options they compiled with
[12:43] <predaeus> s/they/the
[12:44] <Plantain> Under 7.04 should I still manually edit my sources.list file, or use the Software Sources preference?
[12:45] <predaeus> Plantain, better use the preference interface, although it should not make a difference unless you add options or totally remove them
[12:46] <Plantain> So, if I uncheck all the tick boxes in the preference, but have the usual sources in my sources.list file, it wont affect anything adversely? (I'll still get updates etc?)
[12:46] <tuskernini> Plantain: if you are looking for normal music and video codecs... i went to applications add/remove and looked for the codecs... and i also got something popping up when i wanted to view unsupported formats... it was done automatically if memory serves me right
[12:46] <predaeus> Plantain, I think the Sources Preferences dialog just edits the sources.list file
[12:46] <Plantain> Okay, I'll just ignore the preferences dialog
[12:46] <k0rnz> GPG error: http://www.getautomatix.com feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CC919A31E23C5FC3
[12:47] <tuskernini> Plantain: ok i see it is not what you want
[12:47] <k0rnz> how do I fix that error?
[12:47] <k0rnz> says the public gpg key is not availble?
[12:47] <tuskernini> k0rnz: dont use automatix?
[12:47] <Hor|zon> k0rnz, go to the automatix website and get their gpg key from their install instructions
[12:47] <tuskernini> k0rnz: or go to automatix.com or whatever and get the key
[12:47] <Hor|zon> and yeah, automatix sucks
[12:48] <Plantain> There used to be a huge long list of breif how-to's for just about everything, where did that go?
[12:48] <tuskernini> Plantain: where did it used to be?
[12:48] <kane77> how does the middle button paste work? it only copies if _I_ select it with mouse?
[12:48] <k0rnz> if it breaks my feisty install then i can always format and start over
[12:48] <Plantain> tuskernini: I don't know, I used to use it a lot
[12:48] <Plantain> Used to live in the topic
[12:49] <stefg> !faq | Plantain
[12:49] <ubotu> Plantain: A list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[12:49] <Plantain> None of them
[12:49] <zipper> who was it that was asking about SMP support?
[12:49] <Plantain> ahh, ubuntuguide.org
[12:49] <tuskernini> Plantain: you mean the starterguide?
[12:49] <slippyr4> hi all, what is the shell equivalent of that software updator applet? i want to be able to update all out-of-date packages at the type of a command...
[12:49] <zipper> i just installed the generic linux image, and after rebooting it, i have SMP support
[12:50] <jussi01> !automatix
[12:50] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:50] <zipper> slippyr4: 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade'
[12:50] <slippyr4> zipper ty
[12:50] <zipper> np
[12:50] <Plantain> tuskernini: Looks like it
[12:50] <Tom|AT|Windows> Guys, on my linux box, it says that the gnome settings daemon restarted too many times -- maybe this is why i have blank admin tools?
[12:51] <zipper> slippyr4: the '&&' means that 'apt-get upgrade' will be run, only if 'apt-get update' ends succesfully
[12:51] <zipper> (which it usually does)
[12:51] <slippyr4> zipper yes, thanks. i see from doing an apt-get -s upgrade that it wants to upgrade my kernel. I have a custom build module which my system needs to boot, how does that affect things?
[12:52] <Tom|AT|Windows> !Ask
[12:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:52] <zipper> slippyr4: not sure. I *think* you'll have to build that module again.
[12:52] <Plantain> Phew, looks like SSH install was fixed up under 7.04 :D
[12:53] <stefg> was it broken before?
[12:53] <Plantain> stefg: For me it was
[12:53] <cebu2007> how can i join ubuntu effects ch?
[12:53] <slippyr4> ok ,thanks
[12:53] <Plantain> It would never properly generate the key it needed
[12:53] <stefg> !effects
[12:53] <ubotu> For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[12:53] <defrysk> cebu2007, /j #whateverchannel
[12:53] <cebu2007> tnx
[12:54] <Plantain> Someone should remove the '.' from the end of that message
[12:54] <Plantain> Clients that support following links by clicking will go to '#ubuntu-effects.'
[12:54] <PriceChild> Plantain, not xchat at least...
[12:54] <PriceChild> Plantain, I'll change it anyway to be sure
[12:54] <Plantain> Thanks
[12:54] <Plantain> X-Chat Aqua (OSX) trips up on it at any rate
[12:55] <Plantain> Sweet.
[12:55] <stefg> that's the 'easy OSX', i see... :-)
[12:55] <Plantain> haha
[12:55] <Plantain> No, lazy OSX XD
[12:55] <Tom|AT|Windows> Plaintain, Chatzilla doesnt
[12:56] <Plantain> Hmm
[12:56] <Tom|AT|Windows> >	Guys, on my linux box, it says that the gnome settings daemon restarted too many times -- maybe this is why i have blank admin tools?
[12:56] <Plantain> Those that it does work for, try joining #plantain.rules
[12:56] <bezak> Tom|AT|Windows: what do you mean blank admin tools
[12:57] <Tom|AT|Windows> 1 second let me find my screenshot
[12:57] <bezak> Tom|AT|Windows: rgr
[12:57] <jonathan_> somebody know how to install file .tar.gz?
[12:57] <Plantain> jonathan_: That's a compressed file
[12:57] <bezak> jonathan_: thats a zippd archive
[12:57] <Tom|AT|Windows> http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6417/toolsbeingapainvv5.png
[12:57] <bezak> just double click it and itll expand
[12:57] <jonathan_> what should I do woth those files?
[12:58] <Tom|AT|Windows> running 6.06 LTS
[12:58] <degreseven> can anyone help me get a samba share mounted? This fstab entry worked fine for me in gentoo (which i just switched from), but it just hangs in ubuntu... //ramrod/public        /media/ramrod     smbfs           guest,uid=1000 0 0
[12:58] <PriceChild> jonathan_, what are you trying to install?
[12:58] <jonathan_> vmware tools
[12:58] <bezak> Tom|AT|Windows: i doubt its gnome settings daemon
[12:58] <bezak> when did you restart last
[12:58] <bezak> have you tried restarting x
[12:58] <Tom|AT|Windows> just now, seeing if it would fix it.
[12:58] <Tom|AT|Windows> the only thing ive installed recently is xinetd
[12:59] <Tom|AT|Windows> for SWAT
[12:59] <jonathan_> I'm trying to install vmware tools
[12:59] <stefg> degreseven: first of all you should use cifs instead of smbfs... and you should have a look at fusesmb, which is just nicer
[12:59] <jonathan_> somebody help me with those files
[12:59] <bezak> jonathan_: so is that the source to compile it?
[12:59] <jonathan_> yes
[12:59] <jonathan_> vmwaretools.tar.gz
[12:59] <stefg> !info fusesmb | degreseven
[12:59] <ubotu> degreseven: fusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (feisty), package size 26 kB, installed size 140 kB
[01:00] <bezak> jonathan_: if you are a linux beginner compiling programs is probably not recommended
[01:00] <cyberpunk69> Hi Guys
[01:00] <bezak> hey
[01:00] <jonathan_> I'm just trying to learn linux
[01:01] <mx-zoom> bezak: why not? compiling programs is easy
[01:01] <jonathan_> I can't using any windows anymore
[01:01] <jonathan_> I'm only can using linux
[01:01] <Tom|AT|Windows> jonathan_, check in Synaptic i think its in there already compiled
[01:01] <jonathan_> Synaptic?
[01:01] <jonathan_> ok
[01:01] <gnomefreak> jonathan_: why not install apps with apt-get or synaptic
[01:01] <bezak> mx-zoom: yes but it can trip up in a lot of places
[01:01] <cyberpunk69> can anybody advise me on what would be the best data recovery software for me to use to recover a fat 32 partition
[01:01] <zipper> Anyone managed to find a way to use ALL buttons on a logitech MX510 or MX518 mouse? I cant seem to find any good guides for it on the web
[01:01] <Tom|AT|Windows> Package Manager, System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[01:02] <jonathan_> I just want to learn to compiling programs
[01:02] <mx-zoom> bezak: of course. so can an update via apt or a package installation via dpkg screw up
[01:02] <degreseven> stefg thanks, but fusesmb doesnt sound like what i want. I'd rather just get the one share mounted
[01:02] <jonathan_> so, I can install any software
[01:02] <bezak> mx-zoom: yes but you must admit its a hell of a lot less likey
[01:02] <bezak> jonathan_: yes on ubuntu you use add/remove programs
[01:02] <zipper> jonathan_: its usually quite simple. Most come with a README or INSTALL that explains how to compile the specific code.
[01:02] <jonathan_> because my computer not always connected to the internet so I need to learn
[01:03] <bezak> jonathan_: or synaptic
[01:03] <Plantain> How might I change from the generic kernel to a specialized one?
[01:03] <jonathan_> hm...
[01:03] <Plantain> Which should I use for a P4?
[01:03] <stefg> degreseven: can you guarantee that the smb-server is always up when you start the client? Then it's ok... otherwise you'll get boot-delays and failed mounts
[01:03] <zipper> jonathan_: oh, if you only want to use it to install applications, use apt, synaptic or adept instead.
[01:03] <jonathan_> ok
[01:03] <Tom|AT|Windows> Plantain, is your P4 Hyperthreaded?
[01:03] <zipper> Plantain: if you want a specialized one, configure and compile one yourself. It sounds harder than it actually is.
[01:04] <Tom|AT|Windows> True, even i did it back in RH9 days (i was 13)
[01:04] <jonathan_> install file.deb is more easier than file.tar.gz
[01:04] <bezak> Tom|AT|Windows: howd that blank window problem go?
[01:04] <mx-zoom> Plantain: what do you mean by specialized?
[01:04] <jonathan_> but not always works
[01:04] <Tom|AT|Windows> still happening.... but only on some tools -- the disks are now working, but network tools arent
[01:05] <bezak> jonathan_: .deb files are always better if you can find them
[01:05] <Tom|AT|Windows> i think its just being very very slow, but i dont know :(
[01:05] <cyberpunk69> what is the best program to use to recover a fat 32 partition please help
[01:05] <Tom|AT|Windows> if theres no more ideas, im gonna update to 6.10 and then to 7
[01:05] <jonathan_> but, when I'm downloaded cedega at my computer
[01:05] <jonathan_> than my computer goes offline
[01:05] <jonathan_> I can't install those file.deb
[01:05] <stefg> !info testdisk  | cyberpunk69
[01:05] <ubotu> cyberpunk69: testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[01:05] <bezak> jonathan_: thats because it probably needs to install some other programs too
[01:05] <mx-zoom> jonathan_: dpkg -i *.deb
[01:06] <bezak> mx-zoom: gdebi does that via the gui
[01:06] <Plantain> Tom|AT|Windows: Yes
[01:06] <Plantain> By 'specialized' I mean from generic to i586 or something
[01:06] <mx-zoom> bezak: you gui lovers xD
[01:06] <bezak> mx-zoom: haha its much noob friendlier :)
[01:06] <stefg> !generic | Plantain
[01:07] <ubotu> Plantain: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[01:07] <Plantain> Oh
[01:07] <jonathan_> dpkg -i *.deb ??
[01:07] <Plantain> Okay
[01:07] <bezak> jonathan_: just double click it it should then open up a gui to install it
[01:07] <Tom|AT|Ubuntu> Now i can't launch nautilus, (nautilus:7599): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[01:07] <jonathan_> oh...
[01:07] <jonathan_> and how to install .rpm?
[01:07] <bezak> Tom|AT|Windows: have you restarted yet?
[01:08] <jonathan_> is that as easy as .deb?
[01:08] <Tom|AT|Windows> twice
[01:08] <bezak> jonathan_: don't install .rpm's on ubuntu
[01:08] <Tom|AT|Windows> im gonna update it all, hopefully that fixes it
[01:08] <bezak> jonathan_: install .debs
[01:08] <Rich_LI-NY> Xubuntu 6.10 Cant get sound to work corectly (noise) and cant get mic to work at all.  System says I have a Yahama OPL#-SA23 but  I have onboard sound on Intel AL440LX motherboard.   What can  I do to fix this?
[01:08] <jonathan_> oh...
[01:08] <bezak> Tom|AT|Windows: have you changed any of the permissions in your folders recently
[01:08] <jonathan_> ok
[01:08] <bezak> Tom|AT|Windows: i did that onece and it borked gnome harddcore
[01:08] <Tom|AT|Windows> Damn
[01:08] <bezak> Tom|AT|Windows: because it didn't have access to all of the .gnome files
[01:09] <jonathan_> so, .rpm not always use at every distro?
[01:09] <bezak> jonathan_: yeah rpms are used by  some distros such as fedora
[01:09] <kbrooks> jonathaN, no
[01:09] <kbrooks> bezak, say no
[01:09] <kbrooks> bezak, you are confusing him
[01:09] <bezak> no...
[01:09] <Tom|AT|Windows> Admin tools run as root... which is strange cos they aren't even asking me for the root password
[01:09] <jonathan_> yes....
[01:09] <jonathan_> :P
[01:10] <kbrooks> jonathan_, rpm is not used by every distro imaginable
[01:10] <jonathan_> deb too??
[01:10] <bezak> kbrooks: didnt i just say that?
[01:10] <kbrooks> bezak, no
[01:10] <bezak> lol now i'm confused
[01:10] <jonathan_> I'm using ubuntu because my friends told ubuntu much more easier than any distros
[01:11] <Tom|AT|Windows> jonathan_: it is, much easier than Fedora
[01:11] <kbrooks> bezak, well, you probably said that, but negation can be confusing sometimes
[01:11] <bezak> heres how it is simply: if you want to install programs use add/remove programs or .debs
[01:11] <Tom|AT|Windows> doesn't usually break as easily
[01:11] <jonathan_> and this is my first time using LINUX
[01:11] <jonathan_> I'm moved from windows to linux
[01:11] <kbrooks> jonathan_, you might want to be aware of one thing
[01:11] <bezak> jonathan_: if you go to the applications menu at the bottom there is a button that says "add/remove programs"
[01:11] <kbrooks> (may i correct jonathan_ ?)
[01:11] <jonathan_> yes
[01:12] <jonathan_> what kind of thing I should aware?
[01:12] <kbrooks> jonathan_, you did not move from windows to the kernel.
[01:12] <mx-zoom> jonathan_: you should try gentoo
[01:12] <valehru> is it me or my browser because I am looking at technorati.com and all the images seem to be transparent....the text ones....its really weird
[01:12] <jonathan_> what is gentoo?
[01:12] <bezak> mx-zoom: are you seriously trying to confuse this guy
[01:12] <kbrooks> jonathan_, you moved from windows to a operating system named ubuntu
[01:13] <kbrooks> jonathan_, "linux" is not a operating system.
[01:13] <kbrooks> jonathan_, ubuntu is
[01:13] <jonathan_> yes! And I'm still 15 years old!
[01:13] <Tom|AT|Windows> jonathan_: go into System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[01:13] <tchewy> hi
[01:13] <Tom|AT|Windows> search and you will find LOTS of useful apps that are replacements for windows ones
[01:13] <kbrooks> (i'm 16, ffyi)
[01:13] <Tom|AT|Windows> jonathan, im 16
[01:13] <bezak> kbrooks: which is altogether completely irrelevant to helping him learn how to install programs...
[01:13] <Tom|AT|Windows> :D
[01:13] <jonathan_> :D
[01:13] <tchewy> got a pb with l2tp(d) over ipsec
[01:13] <kbrooks> bezak, i know.