[00:01] <mpt> ababajim, if you mean a question about using the installer, #ubuntu is probably a better place. This channel is about installer development.
[00:07] <ababajim> ok, thanks.  i'll try that


[00:02] <Eickmeyer[m]> jbwncster: Do you have a specific support question? Because the entire time you've been in here, you've been rattling off complaints, not really asking for help with anything, which is what this channel is for.
[00:02] <jbwncster> I use an hdmi adapter to my laptop
[00:02] <jbwncster> For my one vga monitor
[00:03] <pg> Eickmeyer[m]: And the external monitor just blanked - so running both isn't the fix. Just in case the issue comes by again...
[00:04] <Eickmeyer[m]> pg: I suspect a hardware problem with the vga cable, vga output, or the monitor.
[00:04] <Eickmeyer[m]> Most likely, the light is going out.
[00:04] <Eickmeyer[m]> I've had that happen before, had to replace the monitor.
[00:05] <pg> Eickmeyer[m]: No, it works just fine on a laptop that is unfortunatly running windows
[00:06] <Eickmeyer[m]> pg: Then I'm out of ideas.
[00:06] <pg> Eickmeyer[m]: Yes, me too. lol.
[00:09] <Eickmeyer[m]> pg: Still might be worth the HDMI for the cleaner signal.
[00:11] <pg> Eickmeyer[m]: Assuming it will work better on the hdmi port
[00:12] <murmel> is there a packaging related channel? alis didn't really help in this regard
[00:12] <Eickmeyer[m]> murmel: #ubuntu-devel would be your best bet.
[00:13] <murmel> Eickmeyer[m]: thanks
[00:13] <enigma9o7[m]> or #packaging on oftc
[00:13] <Eickmeyer[m]> murmel: ^
[00:14] <murmel> enigma9o7[m]: it's more about handling the sbuild launchpad stuff. as I can't get sbuild to include the orig.tar.gz in the sources.changes file
[00:14] <murmel> as debian doesn't have that issue
[00:14] <Eickmeyer[m]> murmel: You might have to add -sa to your debuild -S line.
[00:15] <murmel> Eickmeyer[m]: which is on the host system, I want to create the file in sbuild chroots
[00:15] <murmel> and sbuild for some reason always includes -b for dpkg-buildpackage, there seems to be no way to override it
[00:16] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ohhhh... yeah, I don't package like that. I just do "debuild -S" for everything and then upload my .changes file with "dput".
[00:16] <murmel> Eickmeyer[m]: the problem is, I have a few packages which need dependencies for building the source.changes file, which I really don't want to have on the host system
[00:17] <murmel> and for some reason, launchpad doesn't detect that the version is already uploaded, which means I have to include orig.tar.gz
[00:17] <Eickmeyer[m]> Oh, for that I just do "debuild -S -d" which gets rid of the need for dependencies.
[00:17] <murmel> for now I am mostly only backporting
[00:17] <murmel> Eickmeyer[m]: which doesn't work always
[00:18] <Eickmeyer[m]> I've had it not work in very rare occasions.
[00:18] <murmel> for example, I built systemd 251 which needs dh-package-notes (even the source.changes)
[00:18] <enigma9o7[m]> packaging is hard.  i did manage to package something for launchpad, but it wasnt trivial, and gave me more respect for all those who go to the effort to put stuff there for us
[00:19] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'm a MOTU, so yeah....
[00:19] <enigma9o7[m]> and I wouldn't have been able to do it without the help from #packaging in oftc
[00:19] <murmel> enigma9o7[m]: eh, it's more about debian packaging being a bit behind in the tooling imo ;)
[00:21] <murmel> I really wonder why launchpad doesn't allow binary uploads :/ I mean it's a repository for yourself, and not for distribution
[00:27] <Guest76> Hello, i am a russian soldier. My tank is currently stuck in the mud in ukraine because of a software error of its operating system. It runs on a modified version of Ubuntu, can you help?
[00:28] <enigma9o7[m]> Do you have a handgun?
[00:28] <Guest76> Why is that relevant? Help me with the Ubuntu tank
[00:29] <murmel> Eickmeyer[m]: btw, as a motu, do you know to whom I have to complain that the rmadison server is super slow (anything from 20s to 2m is normal here)
[00:30] <enigma9o7[m]> стреляй себе в голову теперь товарищ
[00:31] <Guest76> You are very mean
[00:31] <Guest76> Instead of helping
[00:34] <cbreak> sounds like user error
[00:37] <InPhase> Things must be bad in Ukraine if the Russian soldiers have to tap into wifi signals from Italy to get online.
 "Eickmeyer: btw, as a motu, do..." <- No clue.
[00:40] <murmel> thanks :)
[00:53] <murmel> Eickmeyer[m]: eh, reading the manpage at 3 in the morning _does_ help sometimes. found the flag (--force-orig-source)
[00:53] <Eickmeyer[m]> murmel: Heh. Sometimes that helps. :)
[00:53] <murmel> ugh, launchpad still complains
[00:53] <murmel> Mismatch in binaryfulness.
[01:10] <enigma9o7[m]> Is it possible to change the height of the title bar area on gnome apps that do the CSD thing, like gnome-terminal etc?
[01:10] <enigma9o7[m]> I mean like its... I dunno 40 pixels high... any way I can make it 20?
[01:11] <murmel> enigma9o7[m]: you would need to change the theme
[01:19] <xibalba> anyone have some recommendations on NVR software? i'd like to buy some reolink cameras and have them record to a common place.
[01:21] <murmel> xibalba: hard to answer, look at https://alternativeto.net/software/blue-iris/
[01:22] <xibalba> thanks
[02:12] <jhutchins> xibalba: Unfortunately they're often locked to  proprietary software.  Look for open-source open-compatible hardware.
[02:17] <jhutchins> xibalba: There has to be a lot of stuff about O.S. video systems, probably mostly security oriented.
[02:18] <xibalba> checking out this shinobi now
[02:25] <jhutchins> xibalba: Good luck, I know there is linux software out there that can do cool stuff like zone isolation and movement detection and notification.
[03:16] <andrew> in curl how do i iterate through pages
[03:23] <deego> Still dealing with that disappearing sound issue. By now, I have figured out that whetehre I use espeak or spd-say, sound disappears sooner or later. It seems from journalctl that pulseaudio keeps opening more and more channels (for each epseak request), and never closes them.  It soon becomes >64, and then sound simply disappears. Ubuntu's settings now show "dummy output" instead of the two sound cards I listed above.
[03:23] <deego> And, only a logout+login solves that. pulseaudio -k doesn't solve it
[03:46] <arraybolt3[m]> deego: What hardware are you on?
[03:46] <arraybolt3[m]> I'll add this to a list of bugs to try to reproduce, and if I can reproduce it, I'll file a bug report.
[03:53] <deego> arraybolt3: intel corp alder lake pch-p high def audio controller, and nvidia corp device 2288   .. from lspci. ubuntu 22.04 lts vanilla
[03:53] <deego>
[03:53] <deego> arraybolt3: thanks!
[03:53] <deego> arraybolt3: i seem to think that overlapping espeaks trigger this lock-up or w/e
[03:53] <arraybolt3> deego: Yeah sure!
[03:54] <arraybolt3> deego: Also the manufacturer and model of your computer may be helpful.
[03:54] <deego> also, logout doesn't solve this. Only a reboot does
[03:54] <arraybolt3> And this only happens with espeak and spd-say?
[03:56] <deego> arraybolt3: that's how i triggered this in all my tests so far. once the sound card disapperas, everything does. youtube, etc. Even ubunut's speaker only shows a dummy speaker
[03:56] <deego> from dmidecode: Manufacturer: System76 Signature: Type 0, Family 6, Model 154, Stepping 3
[03:56] <arraybolt3> OK. If it can be triggered with other applications, that may be helpful to know, because that will help narrow down whether it's a hardware or software problem.
[03:57] <deego> will try
[03:57] <arraybolt3> Wow, System76? I'd expect their hardware to work right with vanilla Ubuntu since they offer it for their hardware instead of Pop!_OS if you want.
[03:58] <deego> yeah
[03:58] <arraybolt3> deego: Is it a System76 Lemur Pro? Or Galago? Or Gazelle? Or...?
[03:59] <arraybolt3> (Also if there's like a version number next to the model name printed on the system that would be helpful, assuming System76 prints version numbers next to model names like Dell does with "Dell Latitude 7000".)
[04:02] <deego> arraybolt3: Oryx Pro oryp9
[04:02] <arraybolt3> Thanks!
[04:02] <deego> ofc, thank you!
[04:10] <JerOfPanic> morning
[04:11] <arraybolt3[m]> JerOfPanic: 👋
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> deego: might be useful to share your dmesg in a paste to the volunteers
[06:19] <gordonjcp> Eickmeyer: morning - can you point me at any information in getting the -lowlatency kernel as installed by Ubuntu Studio Installer working with NVidia graphics?
[06:21] <tino> cubase
[06:22] <tino> cubase
[06:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> gordonjcp: it's 11:30 at night for me and I'm headed to bed. You should be able to open software and updates, go to the drivers tab, and make sure the proper Nvidia drivers are installed.
[06:38] <Eickmeyer[m]> gordonjcp: If it's already done, open a terminal, and type sudo update-initramfs -u -know all and reboot.
[06:38] <Eickmeyer[m]> Mobile is hard
[06:39] <Eickmeyer[m]> -u -k all
[06:46] <fling> Which tree/branch has 5.18 ?
[06:47]  * fling found https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.18/
[09:44] <cnnx> good day, I have a small embedded motherboard running an ATOM CPU.. which version of ubuntu would be most suitable? lubunto, xbuntu, regular 20. LTS?
[09:45] <arraybolt3[m]> Lubuntu is the lightest I believe, Xubuntu second from there. Go with Lubuntu if you're running Qt apps, Xubuntu if you're using GNOME apps.
[09:45] <arraybolt3[m]> (Full disclosure, I am a Lubuntu Member.)
[09:46] <arraybolt3[m]> I'd stay far far away from full-on Ubuntu on that system - a full GNOME desktop is extraordinarily heavy and will probably bog down a CPU like that (unless recent Intel Atoms have gotten way more powerful recently which I highly dobut).
[09:46] <arraybolt3[m]> *doubt
[09:50] <cnnx> arraybolt3 Yes I plan to write Qt based apps for it, right now its all shell based scriptps
[09:51] <cnnx> thanks for the advice, I'll go with Lunbtu
[09:52] <arraybolt3[m]> Sure thing, glad to be able to help! Don't forget you can always come back if something starts going awry - both this channel and #lubuntu support Lubuntu.
[09:53] <cnnx> ok thank you
[09:54] <cnnx> is https://lubuntu.me/ a trusted host to download it from?
[09:54] <arraybolt3[m]> Yes. lubuntu.me is the official website.
[09:55] <cbreak> cnnx: do you need a gui at all?
[09:55] <cbreak> there's a server image for ubuntu
[09:55] <arraybolt3[m]> cbreak: If he's going to be developing Qt apps for it, probably.
[09:56] <cbreak> qt can work without gui... but for servers, I wouldn't use it as framework
[09:59] <ogra> webminQt ?
[10:13] <BULLE> Hi, uppgraded my LTS install to 22.04 . All went well, when rebooting i get an initial image, but then before seeing loginscreen monitor turns black and reports unsupported resolution. Machine is reachanble via ssh. How do i force a certain resolution that is supported by the monitor, vi commandline ?
[10:24] <cbreak> can you switch to an other tty?
[10:24] <cbreak> with ctrl-alt-f3 or so?
[10:24] <brkcore> hey guys, in ubuntu 22.04 if trash is located at ~/.local/share/ and if I can list the deleted files, how can I restore a file to its original directory?
[10:24] <cbreak> brkcore: mv? :)
[10:25] <brkcore> I thought so as a second Option, but i was curious if there is a particular to restore it
[10:25] <brkcore> as imagine if you have to restore multiple files
[10:27] <BULLE> cbreak: nope
[10:28] <BULLE> cbreak: but i found a quick solution, disable wayland for gdm
[10:28] <BULLE> then i get a picture
[10:28] <BULLE> so its wayland related
[10:29] <BULLE> But this box uses intel integrated graphics and nothing else, ( its an intel nuc ), well, i will have to dig into how i force gdm to use sane resultion when i wayland mode, not sure i ever will figure that out
[10:39] <BULLE> oh well, guess i will have to do a complete reinstall instead and hope that fixes it, most likely it will
[11:10] <nintennee> Will 24.04 lts remove X11 or will that be for 26.04? I know red hat has a plan to soon remove X.
[11:19] <tomreyn> nintennee: i don't remember reading any announcements on this - but could have missed such. (note that *this* channel is for support on the supported releases - as liste don the channel topic.)
[11:20] <nintennee> Ok. Thank you.
[11:20] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[11:21] <nintennee> As I now understand I'm in the wrong channel, where should I take questions for ubuntu development?
[11:21] <tomreyn> probably the development related mailing lists.
[11:22] <tomreyn> (though this can be more of a strategic question, and i assume such is not discussed in public.)
[11:44] <defiant> Hey, there's a /home/<user>/snap folder in my home directory. Can I delete it?
[11:49] <ravage> defiant, if you do not use snap, removed all snaps and then remove snapd.. yes
[11:52] <defiant> personally I don't use it, but I think Firefox uses it sonce it complains about a pending update each day
[11:52] <defiant> since*
[11:52] <ravage> the is no firefox update every day
[11:52] <ravage> sudo snap refresh
[11:52] <ravage> will update all snaps
[11:53] <ravage> just make sure to close firefox first
[11:55] <defiant> are snap packages installed user-wide or system-wide?
[11:55] <ravage> system-wide but with configurations per user
[11:55] <defiant> ugh
[11:57] <ravage> just like any .deb you install really
[11:58] <defiant> I'm not sure I follow. what did you mean by "configurations per user"? Is it like profiles in ~/.mozilla/firefox ?
[11:59] <ravage> right. just in its own snap folder in your user directory
[11:59] <ravage> ~/snap/firefox/common/.mozilla
[11:59] <ravage> for example
[12:01] <defiant> wait, so the ~/.mozilla folder is no longer used? (I updated from 20.04 to 22.04)
[12:01] <ravage> right
[12:02] <defiant> so the profile must have gotten copied to the snap folder since I didn't see any changes with my profile. That's good to know. I could have gone modifying config files in the mozilla folder and wonder why the changes don't work.
[12:03] <defiant> unless it's a symlink?
[12:03] <ravage> not a symlink
[12:03] <defiant> yeah, it's not. I just checked.
[12:09] <PeGaSuS> hello folks. I'm having this weird error on boot: https://0bin.xyz/view/4adf90d3 ; I'm using dual-boot (Windows 11 and Xubuntu), GPT partition
[12:09] <ravage> check for a bios update
[12:09] <ravage> i get some of those too
[12:09] <EriC^^> same here
[12:09] <ravage> no update available here anymore
[12:09] <ravage> so i just live with it
[12:10] <PeGaSuS> no new BIOS updates though.
[12:10] <PeGaSuS> well; I suppose I have to live with it then :D
[12:12] <nintennee> Question, is the mono that comes with ubuntu 22.04 new enough? Is it necessary to enable to mono repos or can I just use what ubuntu comes with?
[12:12] <ravage> that depends on the application you want to run
[12:14] <nintennee> Speaking of mono, the latest version is compiled against 20.04.
[12:14] <nintennee> On the mono repos
[12:14] <ravage> possible
[12:14] <nintennee> Is wayland available for 20.04?
[12:14] <ravage> yes
[12:15] <nintennee> I thought there were issues with nvidia in wayland 20.04.
[12:15] <nintennee> Unless the drivers have been updated.
[12:15] <ravage> that is also true
[12:15] <ravage> 22.04 has "way" better wayland support
[12:16] <nintennee> Can I safely add a 20.04 repository to 22.04?
[12:16] <ravage> no
[12:17] <nintennee> ubuntu has 6.8 and mono has 6.12, no wonder I had issues last time.
[12:18] <ravage> some guides tell you to add the repo for 20.04 on 22.04
[12:18] <tomreyn> PeGaSuS: this has more details on the CPPC issue https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213023 - 5.18 seems to have a fix / workaround (not sure which)
[12:18] <ravage> but i never tried it and can cause problems of course
[12:19] <PeGaSuS> tomreyn: I'll take a look, thanks!
[12:23] <PeGaSuS> also, isn't it better to add a maintained PPA instead a old repo?
[13:09] <murmel> tomreyn: I already posted this bug with a fix to launchpad, but it's getting ignored :(
[13:09] <Cursarion> what's the best Linux software for making a bootable USB stick with Ubuntu?
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> Cursarion: the internal ubuntu disk creator is pretty good
[13:11] <Cursarion> what's it called?
[13:11] <ravage> "Startuo Disk Creator"
[13:12] <Cursarion> imma go ahead and do the fresh, full Xubuntu install because some random-ish issues remain on my frankenubuntu
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> good idea Cursarion
[13:15] <tomreyn> murmel: i don't think bug reports are generally ignored, more that they're prioritized, and usually those with greater impact will get handled earlier. i just linked the upstream bug to existing ubuntu bug 1983180 - if yours is a different one, but on the exact same topic, youmay want to declare it a duplicate of this one.
[13:15] <Cursarion> I ran `usb-creator-gtk`, and it says it can't do it. Probably another authentication issue, since it didn't ask for a password or anything
[13:16] <Cursarion> I added sudo and now it does it. Hopefully nothing breaks. :P
[13:18] <murmel> tomreyn: i don't mind that it's not priority ;)
[13:19] <tomreyn> "it's getting ignored :(" sounded like you did
[13:20] <tomreyn> but i'm glad that you do not.
[13:21] <murmel> tomreyn: sorry, I didn't want to sound negative. I do know there is a lot of work, and afaik nothing really is hindering me to work on the laptop.
[13:22] <murmel> tomreyn: I guess the only bug I have which is annoying is that when my screen turns off, the system crashes hard. don't know where to start as journalctl doesn't give me any hints (and that's even with a ubuntu certified laptop) :(
[13:24] <tomreyn> murmel: i'm not a developer, no need to say 'sorry' to me. ;-) i also have a bunch of open bug reports, some for 10+ years, where i don't really understand why they're not being taken on. but then, i'm just using this distribution and not contributing too much, so i guess i can't complain.
[13:24] <murmel> tomreyn: hey, basically in the same boat, but at the same time, getting into packaging right now ;)
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> whats that bug ID of yours murmel ?
[13:25] <murmel> lotuspsychje: let me look it up
[13:26] <tomreyn> murmel: "crashing hard" sounds like you need to do kernel debugging. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelDebuggingTricks
[13:27] <murmel> oh the only thing I don't understand is, I got a bugreport about phased updates being shown in apt update / apt upgrade, but that was smashed down with won't fix as the new implementation doesn't have that feature to hide the updates. the weird part to me is, you can't find the report anymore, except you have the bug#
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> murmel: if you click your username on LP you can see all your affected bugs
[13:30] <murmel> lotuspsychje: sure, but you can't find it anymore per search
[13:30] <tomreyn> murmel: are you saying the bug report can only be accessed by it's bug ID but not be found on a search? if so, how did you search for it, and what's the bug id?
[13:31] <murmel> tomreyn: let me log into my email so I can grab the bug#
[13:31] <tomreyn> i would have a hard time preventing you from doing so
[13:32] <arraybolt3[m]> tomreyn: lol
[13:32] <Cursarion> just activate the kill switch you have on all of their devices
[13:35] <murmel> lotuspsychje: so the title is "opt out of phased updates - still shown" bug#1983730
[13:35] <murmel> i just verified with even searching for the title
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> murmel: does your apt bug relate to your crashes?
[13:38] <murmel> lotuspsychje: the bug about the pcre stuff is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1978359
[13:39] <murmel> lotuspsychje: no, I still have to bisect the kernel, as journalctl can't tell me anything useful
[13:39] <murmel> but I have to dig deeper still
[13:39] <murmel> at least with ubuntu 22.04 the panel self refresh works so I don't have to disable it (otherwise I have artifacts all over the place)
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> murmel: you could try disable secureboot for starters, see if that helps
[13:40] <murmel> lotuspsychje: already did that + reinstalling without encryption, same issue
[13:41] <murmel> this dell is cursed :(
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> murmel: i assume your kernel is up to date too now instead of kernel 5.15.0-37-generic?
[13:41] <murmel> 46 ;)
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> ok great
[13:43] <webchat20> Can i run a virtual machine with hardware virtualization  I have an 8 core cpu 4 gb ram
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> murmel: there is a big acpi known bug out there too, maybe its you too? bug #1981783
[13:43] <hermano> After installing ubuntu 22.04 my Atom application crashes each time I try to open a project. The temp solution provided on internet about starting atom with flag '--sandbox' does not help.
[13:43] <murmel> lotuspsychje: I don't believe that's the case for my case, as the gm kernel (26?) was running without these messages
[13:44] <murmel> and the newer kernels does make it go away (5.18 afair, as it was posted in the bugreport with the fix in the link)
[13:48] <tomreyn> murmel: about searching for the bug report that is status "Won't fix": I think, by default, search omits bugs with this status - but you can always modify how you're searching.
[13:49] <murmel> tomreyn: ahh, I was just weirded out, as I assume I won't be the last one to maybe file a bug because of that. my email setup is "spamming" me with updates available :S
[13:49] <murmel> and now you can't find it
[13:49] <murmel> at least with the default search entry
[13:50] <tomreyn> see "advanced search", "won't fix" is unticked by default
[13:51] <tomreyn> ticking it and searching for your bug title finds it
[13:51] <murmel> yes I agree, just saying that it's not the first thought I have to tick that box, when I search / want to file a bug
[13:52] <murmel> which means most won't find it probably
[13:52] <tomreyn> it may still be found via web search, either directly, or through the mailing list posts.
[13:53] <murmel> hopefully :)
[13:54] <tomreyn> (but "won't fix" is such a strong statement that i'd hope they're usually well reasoned.)
[13:55] <tomreyn> hermano: by "atom application", are you referring to a software targetting atom CPUs, some third party text editor, or something else?
[13:55] <murmel> I mean it sounds like the phased updates feature was reimplemented. and in the new implementation there is no way to hide it (or hide by default like the old one). So I can understand that they won't fix it. but at the same time I wonder why this was never on the table (at least seen from the outside)
[13:56] <hermano> tomreyn, Sorry, meant IDE atom text editor.
[13:56] <tomreyn> hermano: hmm, i think this is not part of ubuntu, so it'd be best to seek support there with where you obtained the software from.
[13:57] <murmel> additionally atom IDE is eol
[13:57] <hermano> tomreyn, Thanks.
[14:00] <tomreyn> murmel: i couldn't tell why the choice was made like it was, other than what juliank described. and, yes, i think there were recent changes to phased updates  - i think there was also a blog post about it.
[14:00] <murmel> tomreyn: blog post? I only ever saw the forum thread + the super basic people.canonical.com website about which packages are phased
[14:01] <murmel> lotuspsychje: after reading the bug report which you linked about the bios. sounds very likely that mine is a duplicate
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> yeah, i see the same kind of acpi errors in yours murmel
[14:02] <tomreyn> murmel: hmm you're right i think i was referring to https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/phased-updates-in-apt-in-21-04/20345
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> murmel: your crashes might have a different root though, nothing in /var/crash ?
[14:03] <murmel> lotuspsychje: for now no. but I will test it later, roughly 1-2 hrs depending when my pc is idling
[14:03] <murmel> tomreyn: yup that's the thread I was talking about
[14:03] <tomreyn> murmel: and, if i read this correctly: i'm also frustrated with the lack of documentation on newly introduced defaults over the past years.
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> murmel: i wonder if your dell would benefit an oem kernel
[14:04] <murmel> lotuspsychje: shouldn't it have one, as it's a certified device?
[14:04] <murmel> no idea honestly
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> murmel: well its weird, sometimes a brand installs oem kernel by default and sometimes not
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> murmel: maybe apt-cache oem or somerville
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> apt-cache search sorry
[14:06] <murmel> lotuspsychje: yeah I assume linux-oem-22.04. will definitely test out. but _very_ sure that ubuntu should install oem kernels if they detect a certified device. but maybe this device is already so old it doesn't need the oem kernel anymore (4 years)
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> well in case of crashes, might be useful to test one
[14:07] <murmel> oh I am fine with testing it a bit more, as I would love to have a "normal" system :>
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> murmel: did you have ubuntu releases on this same dell working like a charm?
[14:08] <murmel> lotuspsychje: can't say, as I bought this second hand. (foreign country, my laptop died)
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> installed jammy on it right away then?
[14:09] <murmel> yeah, not even booted up windows. (only in store to make sure no hw failure is shown in the windows logs)
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> murmel: maybe its an idea to file a new bug, since your apt or acpi bug are prob unrelated to your crashes right
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> that also will give the devs an update dmesg on latest jammy kernel without secureboot
[14:12] <murmel> lotuspsychje: apt was never in this list ;), just something I bugreported as my servers are telling me on a daily basis that there are updates :(
[14:17] <laguna> what is the default ubuntu studio audio recording app
[14:17] <laguna> just learning more about studio
[14:18] <tomreyn> laguna: #ubuntustudio may be a better place for lubuntustudio *specific* questions
[14:18] <laguna> ok tom
[14:28] <murmel> lotuspsychje: do you happen to know which difference exists between linux-oem-22.04 and linux-oem-22.04a?
[14:28] <murmel> description doesn't say anythng
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> murmel: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1413092/what-is-the-difference-between-linux-oem-22-04-and-linux-oem-22-04a-packages
[14:29] <murmel> thanks :)
[14:30] <murmel> ahm, not really explaining a lot. I guess i stick without the a
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> murmel: before trying oem kernel, i would file a bug ; ubuntu-bug linux and explain your crash story
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> so afterwards, they can still trace your current logs/situation
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> after that, you can keep your bug up to date with new tests
[14:31] <murmel> lotuspsychje: oh definitely, just wanted to already look at what I need to do to test out the oem kernel, as I am still waiting for my compilation
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> murmel: this guy claims the oem repo is not needed anymore; https://jtuto.com/upgraded-from-ubuntu-20-0-4-to-ubuntu-22-04-1-lts-and-facing-issue-in-apt-update/
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> and the only package in jammy i find is oem-somerville-tentacool-meta - hardware support for Dell XPS 13 9320
[14:47] <murmel> lotuspsychje: I didn't even know that there were oem repos xD
[14:50] <murmel> lotuspsychje: I will just try and see what happens. an apt purge is just a second away :)
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> yeah :p
[16:17] <murmel> lotuspsychje_: so I tried 5.17 (oem) and as far as I can read the logs, the kernel does not crash, but the screen doesn't come back on
[16:17] <murmel> lotuspsychje_: will definitely redo the crash logs and oem logs, so they are easier to depict for me (forgot about waiting a bit so the time is different)
[16:17] <lotuspsychje_> nice murmel
[16:18] <murmel> lotuspsychje_: idk if not getting the screen back on is nice xD
[16:18] <lotuspsychje_> well perhaps not, but better then a crash for sure
[16:19] <murmel> oh definitely, not complaining honeslty. I wonder if I connect an external monitor what happens. (sadly can't test that)
[16:35] <ilia> hello
[17:50] <cube1> I seem to have broken my system by uninstalling nginx and then removing the /etc/nginx directory. Can't get nginx to work again. I've tried apt-get purge. Any usage of apt-get results in nginx errors, even when it doesn't relate to nginx
[17:51] <kyle3> cube1: pastebin the error
[17:53] <jhutchins> cube1: What's your source for the nginx install?
[17:58] <johnfg> Hi folks!
[17:59] <johnfg> Got a problem.  I had a message from the system that the latest version of ubuntu was available.  I did/ran the upgrade, seemingly without a problem.
[18:00] <johnfg> However, the system won't start now.  From grub, I select the latest, but I only get a blank screen.  No version will run correctly.  Any ideas?  Hard for me to give more information.
[18:02] <lotuspsychje_> johnfg: try pressing F1 at boot process, see if you get any errors on textboot
[18:03] <johnfg> One thing that doesn't work, is any other console.  I try  other ttys, but it's not allowing a login.  From the blank screen, I can't do anything.  I have to do a turnoff/turnon.
[18:04] <johnfg> lotuspsychje: I'll give that a try when I get home.  At church office at present.
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> johnfg: you can also try booting ubuntu in recoverymode (at grub)
[18:06] <johnfg> I did try that.  The versions I try keep going into initial setup, but apparently nothing gets written when its completed.
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> johnfg: setup?
[18:10] <johnfg> lotuspsychje: what are you asking for?
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> johnfg: not sure what you meant with 'The versions I try keep going into initial setup'
[18:14] <johnfg> lotuspsychje: Ok, sorry.  From grub, after selecting recovery mode, and choosing on of the options (not the latest kernel, as it crashes), it goes into an intitial setup: asking about keyboard, timezone, other logins, fullname, username, password.  But then it goes to a screen with the new 22.04 background, but no menu is available.  None of the mouse buttons will bring up any menu either.  And I can't
[18:14] <johnfg> login to any other tty, as it ...
[18:14] <johnfg> ... rejects the login for user, and for root.
[18:16] <johnfg> lotuspsychje: did that explain it?
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> johnfg: after picking an ubuntu (recoverymode) you will see this https://www.addictivetips.com/app/uploads/2019/03/recovery-clean.png
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> johnfg: after that try enable network, then drop to a rootshell to start debugging
[18:17] <johnfg> Unfortunately, I can't access to show you without switching back and forth.
[18:17] <johnfg> The network does come up in the screen I get, but I can't get to a rootshell.
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> johnfg: i never heared dropping to a rootshell didnt work before
[18:19] <johnfg> lotuspsychje: Ok, I will give that a try.  I probably did miss that.  Anything to suggest for the debugging if I get to the root shell?
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | johnfg
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> that would be one thing to try
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> johnfg: checking if your graphics card drivers loaded, sudo lshw -C video
[18:22] <johnfg> lotuspsychje: I'll do all of that.  Thanks so much for all the help.  Hopefully, I'll be able to give you results from ubuntu-22.04 later today!
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> johnfg: if you want to get live support, you could try installing like openbox from the rootshell, boost up your irc client from there
[18:28] <johnfg> lotuspsychje: Good idea.  Will avail myself of it if needed.  Usually, my ubuntu upgrades have gone extremely smooth, better even than my debian.  Don't know what happened this time.
[18:29] <johnfg> lotuspsychje: Have a great day!  ttyl!
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> johnfg: black screens could indicate graphics card issues
[22:56] <johnfg> Well, I'm back, up and running.  The main culprit in the upgrade, was/is slapd.  I've got passwd entries now in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow, and, of course, all works beautifully.  I'll need to read the info for slapd to get things back the way they were and I like them.
[23:03] <johnfg> I just noticed that firefox is gone, and chromium is installed.  That's the new standard?
[23:04] <enigma9o7[m]> No, that's odd.
[23:07] <enigma9o7[m]> Are you sure you didnt install chromium previously?  Or uninstall firefox?  That would explain it.
[23:08] <johnfg> enigma9o7[m]: absolutely not.  Firefox was installed in the previous version.  I upgraded (with some problems) to 22.04, and firefox was gone, and now I have chromium.
[23:09] <enigma9o7[m]> great scott
[23:09] <oerheks> no, impossible.
[23:10] <enigma9o7[m]> Well feel free to install firefox now.
[23:10] <enigma9o7[m]> I suspect you had chromium installed before and forgot about it.
[23:10] <enigma9o7[m]> Or, haxors installed it for you.
[23:10] <enigma9o7[m]> Or your cat did it while you were sleeping.
[23:11] <enigma9o7[m]> oerhawks, all things are possible if you just believe.
[23:11] <enigma9o7[m]> perhaps firefox wwouldnt install but gnome needed a browser and it was like, chromium!
[23:14] <johnfg> None of it I believe, except for the cat!  Flash, my little 20 lb. kitty may not have liked firefox.  He's actually been mistaken for a fox.
[23:14] <johnfg> Does upgrade write to a log somewhere?
[23:16] <oerheks> maybe in /var/log/dist-upgrade/
[23:17] <oerheks> else  /var/log/dpkg.log
[23:18] <oerheks> if you diabled snapd manually, you will not have firefox, and also no chromium i guess.
[23:18] <arraybolt3[m]> johnfg: I really hope you weren't saving any important passwords in that instance of Firefox...
[23:19] <kushalkumaran> simply uninstalling and reinstalling firefox shouldn't lose anything critical. All user data will still be stored in the home directory, which will be untouched by apt
[23:19] <enigma9o7[m]> array, if he was, cant he just copy the profile over once he gets firefox working again?
[23:20] <enigma9o7[m]> having snapd disabled wouldnt have caused this because both browsers are only available as snap
[23:20] <oerheks> this must be a mint issue :-D
[23:20] <enigma9o7[m]> (without unofficial repos)
[23:21] <enigma9o7[m]> what?  mint never has issues.
[23:21] <enigma9o7[m]> any issue a mint user has is ubuntu's fault
[23:23] <enigma9o7[m]> have you seen the video where mark shuttleworth arm wrestles clem lefabre?
[23:53] <johnny_Linux> mint is broke
[23:54] <nmatrix9> Hi all, I upgraded from Ubuntu 20.04 to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS but my gcc compiler is a version behind.  I can't seem to build anything from repos.
[23:54] <oerheks> standard would be gcc11 ?
[23:54] <nmatrix9> The logs are showing: The kernel was built by: gcc (Ubuntu 11.3.0-5ubuntu1) 11.3.0,  You are using: gcc (Ubuntu 11.2.0-19ubuntu1) 11.2.0
[23:55] <oerheks> yes, that is correct.
[23:56] <oerheks> one can install gcc12
[23:56] <oerheks> !info gcc-12
[23:56] <oerheks> no newer version in toolchain https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test?field.series_filter=jammy
[23:57] <enigma9o7[m]> what problem did you encounter nmatrix9?
[23:57] <nmatrix9> I upgraded from Ubuntu 20.04 to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS but my gcc compiler is a version behind.  I can't seem to build anything from repos.
[23:57] <nmatrix9> The logs are showing: The kernel was built by: gcc (Ubuntu 11.3.0-5ubuntu1) 11.3.0,  You are using: gcc (Ubuntu 11.2.0-19ubuntu1) 11.2.0
[23:58] <oerheks> !info gcc-11
[23:58] <oerheks> what kernel exactly? from the test ppa?
[23:58] <nmatrix9> 5.19.3-051903-generic
[23:59] <oerheks> so you installed a custom kernel..


Thanks Alaph-incomes.ltd again for another withdrawal for my second withdrawal from this companyđź‘Ťđź‘Ťđź‘Ťđź‘Ťđź‘Ťđź‘‹đź‘‹đź‘‹đź‘Źđź‘Źđź‘Ź : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/45a21253/file_5883.jpg


[19:31] <akik> hi, i installed ubuntu mate 22.04.4 today to my audio pc. when i use the task switcher, i can barely see which mini icon is selected
[20:06] <sixwheeledbeast> Maybe look at the DPi setting in MATE Tweak? Things like that will be adjustable
[20:14] <akik> it's about the colours
[20:14] <akik> they are too how would i say, pale
[20:23] <sixwheeledbeast> not sure what you mean
[20:27] <akik> it's hard to see which mini icon in the task switcher is selected
[20:27] <akik> you know, alt+tab
[21:02] <sixwheeledbeast> mine are massive
[21:03] <sixwheeledbeast> 3cm sq
[21:04] <superkuh> I use MATE. Mine are about 1cm across on a 23" 1080p monitor.
[21:04] <superkuh> The individual icon squares.
[21:04] <superkuh> On the task switcher.
[21:04] <superkuh> I suppose if I open a lot more X application windows they will get smaller?
[21:05] <superkuh> No, the task switcher just gets bigger.
[21:05] <superkuh> I'm on an older MATE 1.24.1 though.
[21:11] <akik> sixwheeledbeast: i don't mean the size, but colour
[21:11] <akik> sixwheeledbeast: the contrast is too small
[21:11] <superkuh> The pale ones are the minimized windows.
[21:12] <akik> i give up
[21:12] <superkuh> Make your windows visible and see if they are still pale.
[21:12] <superkuh> (in tab switcher icon form)
[21:13] <akik> everything is visible. the contrast of the mini icons in the task switcher is too small so i can't easily see which mini icon is selected
[21:15] <superkuh> This is what mine looks like and the contrast of the selected one is fine. http://a.superkuh.com/task-switcher.png
[21:15] <superkuh> Is yours different? Or do you object to the above?
[21:15] <akik> i can't see which icon is selected inthat screenshot
[21:16] <superkuh> Oh.  Theme and a bad monitor if he can't see the selection in the image I posted.
[21:51] <sixwheeledbeast> Mine is nice obvious mate-minty green to highlight the selected one...


[00:01] <NathanDiniz> is it always this quiet in here?
[00:02] <Unit193> Yeah, it's a pretty quiet channel.
[00:03] <NathanDiniz> thought so.
[18:23] <fuloriamerlin> how to monitor network connectivity of PCs with Nagios on Ubuntu ?


[00:41] <rww> I... what.
[00:44] <rww> Confirmed as PM spam by another channel they're in, nuking.
[00:44] <rww> 60000 GET
[00:45] <IdleOne> I think I want to call Dayne and get a quote
[00:45] <Jordan_U> Are they really trying to advertise their local Toyota dealership via IRC?
[00:45] <IdleOne> seems so
[00:46] <Jordan_U> Could it be some troll against the dealership, trying to get people to call them and complain?
[00:46] <rww> wouldn't surprise me
[00:46] <IdleOne> very possible and likely
[00:47] <rww> oh god, they have one of those chat things in the bottom corner of the site
[00:47] <Jordan_U> I just can't imagine someone running a Toyota dealership A: Knowing what IRC is and B: Thinking that spamming people via IRC is a good advertising method.
[00:55] <Jordan_U> And I just got PM spam from them too.
[01:01] <AlanBell> I think ubottu would be more of a Prius driver rather than a big truck
[01:01] <IdleOne> a truck might help her carry some of the load though
[01:27] <Jordan_U> rww: I know, tab completed and banned the wrong person.
[01:27] <rww> twice?
[01:27] <rww> ah, nvm
[01:28] <rww> unban the first one I guess?
[05:17] <Unit193> chu: Howdy.
[06:00] <bazhang> ruhroh
[06:00] <chu> Hello
[06:00] <Unit193> Yep.  EU has services if you care.
[06:01] <chu> It's ok.
[14:39] <jussi> ikonia: ping. please see PM
[16:57] <JohnCalvin> Am i awesome when i am drunk? I start fights punch holes in the wall scream puke and blackout?
[16:57] <JohnCalvin> !ops
[16:57] <JohnCalvin> -_-


[00:00] <trevorj> adam_g: it also works fine if I just use hosts: files dns mdns4 in nsswitch.conf
[00:01] <trevorj> adam_g: but that would break some people's ability to use mdns as some nasty ISPs have a .local domain in their DNS zones
[00:03] <adam_g> trevorj, i think the MAAS domain name is configurable?
[00:04] <trevorj> adam_g: I configured it, the DNS part works fine
[00:05] <trevorj> adam_g: the problem is in nsswitch.conf you have this by default: hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
[00:05] <trevorj> adam_g: since the [NOTFOUND=return] is there, it never checks anything below .local if avahi can't resolve it
[00:05] <trevorj> adam_g: which it cannot since it's a subdomain of .local and not just avahi's default of .local
[00:06] <trevorj> adam_g: would it be best if I change avahi-daemon's domain to my real subdomain of .local? But then what if I want a DNS address for that to be resolvable that's not avahi published?
[00:07] <sarnold> I think everyone just gave up fighting .local and switched to .priv or .intern or something else :(
[00:08] <trevorj> lol
[00:08] <trevorj> kind of hard for me to switch at this point =(
[00:10] <trevorj> Do people really use multiple avahi domains?
[00:11] <patdk-lap> people really use avahi?
[00:11] <trevorj> lol, right
[00:11] <sarnold> heh, yeah, to my knowledge, no one _uses_ it.
[00:12] <patdk-lap> the only thing I ever see using it is, airprint
[00:12] <sarnold> but perhaps living the Apple Lifestyle or sometihng it'd be handy?
[00:12] <trevorj> I guess I really don't mind disabling it I just don't want some package to pull in avahi-daemon and much up my resolves one day
[00:12] <sarnold> that sounds like a healthy fear :)
[00:13] <trevorj> I should really just fix nsswitch.conf, which is why I have the post-install config question to begin with ;)
[00:41] <tyson_> trevorj: Now that I have done it what should the address be? my dns:ip:port??
[00:43] <trevorj> tyson_: to access it externally?
[00:43] <tyson_> trevorj: yes
[00:44] <trevorj> tyson_: your external IP:port
[00:44] <trevorj> tyson_: unless you use ddns or something
[00:44] <trevorj> tyson_: ssh is -p for port
[00:44] <trevorj> tyson_: 22 is default
[00:44] <tyson_> trevorj: I usualy do it indoors with ssh -l user ip or ssh user@ip
[00:45] <trevorj> tyson_: I recommend to setup ssh key auth if you're making this externally accessible
[00:45] <tyson_> trevorj: ok, thank you.
[00:46] <trevorj> tyson_: you also may be interested in fail2ban to block all those chinese ssh attackers
[00:47] <genii-around> Alternately move ssh to some other high numbered obscure port
[00:48] <tyson_> trevorj: lol... really ??? i'm gonna be honest... there is nothing on that server other then movies and photos.... are Chinese really into ssh? how does that fail2ban work?
[00:48] <trevorj> tyson_: they just try random IPs by brute forcing passwords
[00:48] <tyson_> genii-around: I did think about that]
[00:48] <trevorj> tyson_: I had a box get cracked with a 32 char random password once
[00:48] <trevorj> tyson_: took 5 years of brute forcing but they got in
[00:49] <tyson_> damn
[00:49] <trevorj> tyson_: nah wait, it was probably 16 chars, I think thats when I convinced my boss to move to ssh key auth for everything and 32 chars
[00:49] <trevorj> tyson_: but still
[00:50] <tyson_> trevorj: so, if i got it right, the fail2ban puts the ip on a ban list after a certain amount of attemps, right?
[00:50] <genii-around> tyson_: fail2ban will put their ip temporarily into hosts.deny after a certain amount of failed login attempts.
[00:50] <trevorj> It will add a reject iptables rule
[00:51] <tyson_> genii-around: lol... that happened to me with my website server.... very nice.... couldn't access it through the weekend
[01:04] <trevorj> tyson_: I access them from a different IP when that happens
[01:04] <trevorj> tyson_: hell, hop on tor even ;)
[01:05] <tyson_> trevorj: I had to, from my ipad 3G
[01:05] <trevorj> tyson_: sounds fun, I love tablet ssh
[01:05] <trevorj> tyson_: really like the keyboard </sarcasm>
[01:06] <trevorj> tyson_: very handy though
[01:06] <tyson_> trevorj: it helps with the kids... when I tell them to turn them off and they don't... I DO IT MYSELF
[01:06] <trevorj> ahaha
[01:07] <tyson_> trevorj: but sometimes I get the karma, just like now.... I am trying to do what you gays told me, reboot the server and can not access it now...
[01:07] <trevorj> wonderful typo
[01:07] <tyson_> trevorj: oh well, gotta plug in the mouse and keyboard nd get on with it
[01:08] <trevorj> tyson_: what did you do on it?
[01:08] <trevorj> tyson_: ssh key auth and/or fail2ban?
[01:08] <trevorj> tyson_: or high port, etc etc
[01:08] <tyson_> trevorj: the update, upgrade, then the nameserver change
[01:08] <trevorj> ah
[01:08] <trevorj> fun stuff
[01:09] <tyson_> trevorj: then started with ports and allowences
[01:09] <trevorj> tyson_: I always hate that moment, when you realize you need a keyboard
[01:09] <tyson_> trevorj: then went on to the router and port forward.... now STUCK
[01:09] <tyson_> trevorj: hahahaha
[01:10] <tyson_> trevorj: I am very lucky that the machine is right here in front of me... but hey it is 1:10 in the morning so i will give it a miss for now and come back to it tomorrow
[01:11] <trevorj> tyson_: you got it, sorry for the troubles, hope all goes well
[01:11] <tyson_> trevorj: sorry about the typo. I never get it right, honestly....
[01:12] <trevorj> tyson_: lol, I found it funny, no worries
[01:12] <tyson_> trevorj: it took me years to get the HE and SHE right.... nevermind the gay and guy... its just the way English people read, drives me mad
[01:12] <trevorj> tyson_: is english not your first language?
[01:12] <trevorj> tyson_: you speak it very well if not, could of fooled me
[01:13] <tyson_> trevorj: I am Portuguese by the way
[01:13] <tyson_> trevorj: it is now a days, I have an all english family, such as wife and kids. Live in England as well but I come from Portugal dough
[01:14] <tyson_> trevorj: and you are English, right???
[01:14] <trevorj> tyson_: I'm a nasty American
[01:14] <trevorj> tyson_: ;)
[01:16] <tyson_> trevorj: Really??? please, don't take this the wrong way.... I thought you were English as you made a mistake very common with the English could of instead of could have... but hey.... with my gay ang guy who am I to say anything
[01:16] <tyson_> trevorj: lol
[01:16] <trevorj> tyson_: lol, yeah I'm by no means perfect, thanks for noticing though, now I'll look for it
[01:17] <tyson_> trevorj: thank you for your help today... you were very helpful indeed... now off to bed. Hope to type to you soon to increase my knowledge
[01:17] <trevorj> tyson_: have a good night
[01:32] <GTAXL> How can I implement 2.4.x Apache repos into Ubuntu server?
[01:43] <katronix> Hi all, would this be a good place to ask about suPHP issues? or can you point me to the right channel if not?
[01:46] <sarnold> katronix: can't hurt to ask anyhow though maybe ##php would be better, if it more about php..
[01:46] <katronix> [Tue Feb 26 20:37:56 2013] [error] [client <IP_ADDRESS>] SoftException in Application.cpp:299: Script "/home/chris/sites/chrisamoody.com/public_html/test.php" resolving to "/home/chris/sites/chrisamoody.com/public_html/test.php" not within configured docroot
[01:47] <katronix> trying to identify what to do with this error to fix it
[01:48] <sarnold> katronix: this page here mentions a suphp.conf file, with a [global] config option 'docroot': http://www.suphp.org/DocumentationView.html?file=CONFIG
[01:48] <sarnold> katronix: how is your suphp.conf docroot set?
[01:48] <katronix> sarnold, let me check
[01:50] <katronix> ah there is the issue lol
[04:57] <azbyin> hi all
[04:57] <azbyin> is there a way to change the uid/gid of the default "ubuntu" user ?
[05:07] <patdk-lap> just edit it
[05:09] <azbyin> is there a user with uid 999 ?
[05:09] <azbyin> i mean a usual one for some service
[05:25] <qman__> don't think so
[05:25] <qman__> be aware that doing this will cause all the user's files to no longer belong to the user
[05:25] <qman__> you need to chown afterward
[05:25] <azbyin> yeah, i know
[05:25] <azbyin> i was wondering if it might conflict with some packages in the future where they generate a new user with uid 999
[05:26] <qman__> I don't know of any packages that create a user, which are not in the 100-range, or 1000+
[05:26] <qman__> which is not to say they don't exist, I just haven't seen any
[05:26] <azbyin> looks like x2go uses uid 999
[06:28] <son_> hey
[06:29] <son_> I think there something wrong with my MX record
[06:29] <histo> son_: probably
[06:29] <son_> when I use dig A mail.domain.com there is no IP
[06:29] <histo> son_: what's your domain?
[06:29] <son_> in A record
[06:29] <histo> son_: there shoudn't be an ip for the mx record
[06:29] <son_> hmd-c.com
[06:29] <histo> son_: let me check
[06:30] <son_> ok thanks
[06:30] <histo> son_: Your mx is set to mail.hmd-c.com.
[06:30] <son_> yes
[06:30] <son_> thats my server name
[06:31] <histo> ip is <IP_ADDRESS> for mail.hmd-c.com
[06:32] <son_> I think thats the ptr record right?
[06:32] <histo> son_: that's what mail.hmd-c.com resolves as
[06:32] <son_> so what do you think is the problem?
[06:33] <son_> I can send and receive emails internally
[06:33] <son_> but externally I can only send but not receive
[06:33] <histo> son_: Is that the IP of the server?
[06:33] <son_> no
[06:33] <histo> son_: then that's the problem
[06:34] <son_> yeah
[06:34] <histo> son_: you need to point mail.hmd-c.com to your mail server
[06:34] <son_> how can I point that?
[06:34] <histo> son_: in your a name records
[06:34] <son_> i've bought that domain in godaddy.com
[06:35] <histo> son_: go to godaddy's total dns control and create an A record pointing mail  at your IP of your mailserver
[06:35] <son_> sorry im a newbie here in DNS and mail server stuff
[06:35] <histo> son_: me too i've never done it but I understand what's wrong.
[06:35] <son_> I already did that
[06:35] <histo> son_: did you install av and anti spam stuff?
[06:35] <son_> yeah
[06:35] <son_> there is no log in mail.log
[06:35] <son_> when I send from yahoo or google to my server
[06:35] <histo> son_: mail.hmd-c.com is not resolving to the right ip righ?
[06:36] <son_> yes
[06:36] <histo> that's the issue how the hell wwould mail get to your server if mail.hmd-c.com isn't pointing tot he right place. YOu need to double check your dns records on godaddy
[06:36] <son_> ok wait
[06:37] <histo> son_: outside email servers are going where is mail.hmd-c.com and they see <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:37] <histo> son_: is that the right one?
[06:37] <son_> my IP here in my server is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:38] <histo> son_: Your dns is jacked up
[06:38] <son_> my MX record already pointed to mail.hmd-c.com
[06:38] <son_> i know lol
[06:38] <histo> son_: The ip for mail.hmd-c.com is changing
[06:38] <histo> son_: everytime I ping it
[06:38] <son_> yeah
[06:38] <son_> I think thats because of godaddy
[06:39] <histo> son_: You need to fix your dns settings with godaddy. Your A names what are they set  to?
[06:39] <son_> my A record points to my IP address
[06:39] <histo> son_: What is it set as?
[06:39] <son_> <IP_ADDRESS> this IP
[06:40] <son_> @
[06:40] <histo> no @ www mail????
[06:40] <histo> son_: okay add another one
[06:40] <histo> add mail and point it at your IP
[06:40] <son_> in A record?
[06:41] <son_> done
[06:41] <son_> host = mail, points to = <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:41] <son_> is that right?
[06:42] <histo> son_: yes
[06:42] <histo> assuming that <IP_ADDRESS> is your ip
[06:42] <son_> yeah its my public IP
[06:42] <histo> son_: still hasn't propagated yet
[06:42] <son_> it will take some time I guess
[06:42] <histo> son_: give it a few minutes
[06:43] <son_> yea sure
[06:43] <son_> I've been stuck here for a couple of days
[06:44] <histo> son_: what'd you have mail set as before cname?
[06:44] <histo> or just not set?
[06:44] <son_> not set
[06:45] <histo> son_: are you sure you didn't just create a cname? it looks like you did from dig
[06:45] <son_> yea godaddy provided that
[06:46] <histo> son_: there are 2 A records for some reason of both just hmd-c.com pointed at two different ips
[06:46] <son_> the other IP was provided by godaddy
[06:46] <son_> I just didn't erase that
[06:46] <histo> son_: well it should be workign now. It resolves properly now
[06:46] <son_> really?
[06:46] <histo> son_: A records are for IPs  cnames are for hostname forwarding
[06:47] <histo> son_: yes mail.hmd-c.ocm resolves to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:47] <histo> which is what your mx record is set to.
[06:47] <histo> Looks good now
[06:47] <son_> i'll give it a try
[06:47] <histo> son_: Which howto did you follow?
[06:47] <son_> flurdy
[06:47] <histo> ?
[06:47] <histo> linkage
[06:48] <son_> http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[06:49] <son_> still no log :(
[06:50] <histo> son_: It should be working. People should be hitting imap assuming the port is open
[06:50] <histo> son_: let me check
[06:50] <son_> yea sure
[06:51] <son_> i've tried sending mails to yahoo and it was there but when I reply to my server nothing happens
[06:51] <histo> son_: what is it port 143?
[06:51] <son_> I think thats the imap
[06:52] <histo> dns just went wonky agai
[06:52] <histo> again
[06:52] <son_> what?
[06:52] <histo> It's not pointed at your ip anymore
[06:53] <histo> son_: Alright what do you have in your DNS records?
[06:53] <son_> cname?
[06:53] <histo> son_: pastebin a screenshot
[06:53] <histo> !paste | son_
[06:56] <histo> son_: also your ip is refusing connections on port 143 and port 220 so no IMAP.
[06:56] <histo> son_: is it maybe imaps?
[06:56] <son_> hmm
[06:57] <histo> son_: did you set your router to forward the ports
[06:57] <son_> I dont know really
[06:57] <son_> yeah
[06:57] <son_> my ISP block port 25
[06:57] <histo> So what'd you do to resolve that?
[06:57] <son_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5569813/ heres the link
[06:58] <son_> relay host to my ISP
[06:58] <son_> I connect via port 587
[06:58] <son_> and use their smtp server
[06:59] <histo> son_: Where'd you get that info from your isp?
[06:59] <son_> i've called my ISP and thats the only thing they gave me
[07:00] <histo> son_: Are you using any of the other services provided by godaddy for the secureserver stuff?
[07:01] <son_> nope, it was there when I bought it
[07:01] <son_> this is my /etc/postfix/main.cf http://paste.ubuntu.com/5569816/
[07:01] <histo> son_: get rid of all those cnames then and create antoerh aname with @ as the host and point it at your ip
[07:02] <histo> son_: postfix is not the issue
[07:02] <histo> son_: one is your DNS the other issue is your ports being blocked
[07:02] <histo> son_: so lets fix the dns first then the ports
[07:02] <son_> ok sure
[07:03] <histo> son_: So the only thing you should have is two anames one for @ and one for mail  both pointed at your ip and an MX record pointed at mail.hmd-c.com
[07:04] <son_> ive already deleted all cnames
[07:04] <histo> son_: Okay then fix the anames
[07:04] <son_> error
[07:05] <histo> son_: ?
[07:05] <histo> What's the error?
[07:05] <son_> A record of a different type exists for the hostname @, could not create CNAME
[07:06] <son_> thats the log
[07:06] <histo> Why are you creating cnames?
[07:06] <histo> NO CNAMES
[07:06] <son_> what will I create?
[07:06] <histo> two A's one for mail and one for @ both pointed at your IP
[07:07] <histo> or atleast one for mail
[07:07] <son_> its ok now
[07:07] <son_> ill try to send to yahoo
[07:07] <son_> using telnet
[07:08] <histo> son_: it's still not updated here
[07:09] <son_> it sends
[07:09] <son_> but lets wait for a while
[07:09] <histo> son_: as we've already figured out sending is not the issue. Not quite sure why you keep checking that. Has nothing to do with receiving
[07:09] <son_> right
[07:09] <son_> im just testing sorry
[07:11] <son_> do you think its ok now?
[07:11] <son_> ive tried sending from yahoo and I still dont get any logs :(
[07:11] <histo> son_: let me check
[07:11] <son_> sure
[07:12] <histo> son_: there is still a goofy aname record of <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:12] <histo> son_: and pinging mail.hmd-c.com is not resolving to your IP so no it's not working still
[07:12] <son_> lest wait for a while
[07:13] <son_> ive already remove that address
[07:14] <histo> son_: Why not look at your router and make sure that your ports are forwarded to your server
[07:15] <histo> while we wait
[07:15] <son_> im using dlink 600
[07:16] <histo> son_: Okay log in and forward port 143 to the internal IP of your server
[07:17] <son_> its done
[07:18] <histo> okay well it's not answering
[07:19] <son_> do you think its an ssl issue?
[07:19] <histo> son_: did you only enable imaps  or imap ?
[07:19] <histo> son_: it's not even listening on port 143
[07:20] <son_> yeah
[07:20] <histo> son_: let me look at the silly howto you are following hold on?
[07:20] <son_> yea sure
[07:20] <son_> thanks for the time
[07:21] <histo> son_: did you install shorewall?
[07:21] <son_> not yet
[07:21] <son_> im planning to set this up first before I install that
[07:21] <histo> Okay
[07:22] <histo> You installed courier right?
[07:22] <son_> yeah
[07:23] <histo> son_: On that machine can you telnet localhost 143
[07:23] <son_> yeah I can
[07:24] <histo> son_: And it answers with?
[07:24] <son_> Connected to localhost.localdomain. Escape character is '^]'. * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UIDPLUS CHILDREN NAMESPACE THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES SORT QUOTA IDLE ACL ACL2=UNION STARTTLS] Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-2011 Double Precision, Inc.  See COPYING for distribution information.
[07:26] <histo> son_: okay now make sure your forwarded both tcp and udp port 143 on your router to internal ip of your server
[07:27] <son_> its already forwarded
[07:27] <histo> son_: You said you have  a dlink dir600?
[07:27] <son_> yes
[07:28] <histo> son_: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dlink/DIR-600/Imap.htm
[07:28] <histo> Do you have a DSL modem also?
[07:28] <histo> or calbe or whatever
[07:28] <histo> like Cable modem > dlink > server ????
[07:28] <histo> or just dlink > server???
[07:28] <son_> dsl > router > server
[07:29] <histo> son_: So a seperate dsl modem right?
[07:29] <histo> on top of the dlink?
[07:29] <son_> yes
[07:29] <son_> running my server behind a router
[07:29] <histo> Ahh you have a double nat issue
[07:30] <histo> dsl modem is seeing the request for port 143 and doesn't know what to do with it.  The request never even gets to your home router
[07:30] <histo> So you have a couple of options to fix this.
[07:30] <son_> how?
[07:32] <histo> You can configure your dsl modem to be a bridge device and let the dlink handle your dsl connection. Or you can edit the config of your dsl modem and put your routers IP int he DMZ
[07:33] <histo> son_: in your routers config you can probably see what IP your dsl modem is giving your router. Then you should be able to connect to your dsl modems config page and change settings there.
[07:34] <histo> brb
[07:34] <son_> im not sure I think Im not authorized to do configuration
[07:35] <histo> son_: http://www.practicallynetworked.com/networking/fixing_double_nat.htm  here is an explaination. YOu can configure your dsl modem. You had to to enter a username and password for your dsl connection.
[07:35] <histo> Read up on that for an explanation you will understand what's going on. I have to go for a bit.
[07:37] <son_> ive already enabled dmz in my router
[07:50] <histo> son_: You need to put your router in the dmz on the dsl mdoem
[07:51] <son_> i think bridge mode is disabled in my dsl
[07:52] <son_> when I login in the browser it only display the information about the dsl
[07:53] <histo> son_: Yes if your dslmodem is in bridge mode you can't even login to it. You put your dsl login settings in your dlink.
[07:53] <son_> how?
[07:53] <histo> son_: The easiest way is for you to login to your dsl modem and disable any firewalls and put your router's WAN IP in the DMZ
[07:54] <histo> son_: if not what kind of dsl modem is it?
[07:54] <son_> P-660HN-T1A
[07:55] <son_> ive already enable dmz points to my server
[07:55] <son_> in my router
[07:56] <histo> son_: let me see
[07:56] <son_> how?
[07:56] <histo> nope still not working
[07:56] <histo> I'm trying to telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 143   and it's not responding
[07:56] <histo> So the port isn't being forwarded still
[07:56] <son_> aww :(
[07:56] <histo> On the dsl modem put the routers WAN IP in the DMZ and be done
[07:57] <histo> the servers ip is probably on a different class and the dsl modem doesn't know what to do with the request
[07:58] <son_> how can I put WAN IP on the dsl modem
[07:58] <son_> the dsl modem gives me nothing
[07:58] <son_> only status and information
[08:00] <son_> I get it!
[08:01] <histo> ?
[08:02] <son_> ive already log in into the admin account
[08:02] <histo> The cable that runs from the dsl modem to the router is plugged into the WAN port on the router. The router gets an IP from the dsl modem. The router also has an IP and subnet that it hands to inside machines. The WAN port's IP needs to be placed in the DMZ on the DSL Modem. I don't know how else to explain this.
[08:02] <histo> Once you accomplish this rejoice and be done with all your issues
[08:03] <son_> ive already open ports in dsl modem
[08:03] <son_> ive open port 143
[08:03] <son_> can you telnet my ip again?
[08:07] <son_> hey what encapsulation will I choose?
[08:07] <son_> in bridge mode
[08:07] <histo> Trying right now. It's just sitting there now
[08:07] <histo> It's not answering but it's not denying the request either
[08:08] <histo> Not sure what you have setup now.
[08:08] <histo> and your IP isn't responding to pings anymoe
[08:08] <histo> son_: anymore
[08:12] <son_> still there?
[08:13] <son_> I lost my internet connection
[08:14] <son_> histo are you still there? can you telnet my ip again?
[08:19] <son_> histo
[08:20] <histo> Yeah I'm back
[08:20] <histo> son_: doesn't answer and doesn't deny it's just sitting there blinking termianl not sure what is going on
[08:21] <son_> after I enabled bridge mode I lost my connection probably because of NAT
[08:24] <histo> son_: No you need to set your connection up in your dlink after you brdige mode the dsl modem
[08:25] <son_> where here?
[08:25] <histo> I don't have a dlink so I don't know usually on the setup page the first screen you come to on the router.
[08:25] <histo> Let me see if I can find some directions
[08:25] <histo> You'll also need your dsl login name and password for this
[08:25] <son_> yeah sure
[08:26] <histo> son_: Alright on the setup page
[08:26] <histo> son_: There is a internet connection wizard should walk you through it after you put your dsl modem in bridge mode again.  If not you can do manual setup.
[08:27] <histo> son_: http://screenshots.portforward.com/routers/Dlink/DIR-600/Internet_Setup.htm  This page
[08:27] <son_> do I enable access point mode?
[08:28] <histo> son_: I would look for something that says pppoe
[08:29] <son_> o yeah i saw that
[08:29] <histo> I can't find pictures of the internet connection wiziard settings
[08:29] <son_> dynamic or static ip?
[08:30] <histo> son_: I don't know what you ISP gives you.
[08:30] <histo> son_: most are dynamic
[08:30] <son_> static it is lol
[08:30] <son_> this is my public ip right?
[08:31] <son_> <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:31] <son_> this?
[08:31] <histo> son_: Your ip should be assigned after you sign in
[08:32] <histo> son_: You shouldn't ahve to put all this in. Are you doing the wizard or the manual?
[08:32] <son_> manual
[08:32] <histo> son_: doe the wizard please
[08:32] <histo> use the wizard
[08:32] <son_> ok
[08:34] <histo> son_: are you still ont he same network?
[08:34] <histo> son_: like with this chat?
[08:35] <histo> If so your IP changed
[08:37] <son_> got dc again
[08:38] <son_> hey can we do this tomorrow?
[08:39] <son_> im at work and its almost time to go
[08:39] <son_> histo
[08:39] <histo> yea im sure someone can help
[08:40] <son_> but I want you to teach me
[08:40] <son_> lol
[08:40] <son_> you have facebook account?
[08:42] <histo> Nope
[08:42] <histo> son_: YOu need to find out if you isp is giving a dynamic IP. you will have issues
[08:43] <son_> yeah I'll just contact them tomorrow
[08:43] <son_> will you still be here tomorrow?
[08:43] <son_> same time?
[08:43] <son_> lol
[08:44] <son_> please I really need this to be done, or else my boss will fire me :(
[08:47] <histo> I will not be here. Others can help. You understand that you have a doublenat like described above on that page. Others can help you fix it.
[08:48] <son_> one last
[08:48] <son_> I get this error everytime I try to send to my server from google
[08:49] <histo> What's that?
[08:49] <son_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5569972/
[08:49] <son_> here
[08:50] <son_> you have any idea?
[08:50] <histo> son_: Yeah you need to open open serveral ports
[08:51] <histo> son_: let me find you a howto that expalins everythign give me a sec
[08:51] <son_> yea sure
[08:53] <histo> son_: Still looking for the guide I had it was great and would be perfect for you. I'll ahve to search through browser history bare with me
[08:54] <son_> ok
[08:54] <son_> still have 5 mins left lol
[08:54] <son_> thank you for your time mate
[08:54] <son_> you've helped me a lot
[08:54] <histo> son_: http://workaround.org/ispmail/squeeze   This explains everything.  Atleast you will understand all the components
[08:55] <histo> son_: everything will be clear after readin ghtat
[08:55] <son_> I already visited that site but didn't stay there
[08:57] <son_> hey can you telnet me again for one last time?
[09:04] <joel___> Good evening. MySQL isn't 'working' quite right with my new web server. However, it's installed and accessible via command-line. Any idea what it is I need to add to my php.ini file in order to load the php-mysql module?
[09:05] <joel___> NM - the 'module' wasn't installed. apt-get install php5-mysql
[09:06] <joel___> lolz. Ty anyway.
[09:51] <jamespage> zul, your rtslib package FTBFS; I fixed it up and a load of other issues with the packaging and uploaded to raring.
[10:19] <jamespage> zul, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/rtslib/2.1.fb27-0ubuntu2
[10:57] <rbasak> jamespage: hey. Please could you review/sponsor bug 1132302? The version in my PPA is fine to upload as-is; just knock off the ~ppa2 suffix. https://launchpad.net/~racb/+archive/experimental/+files/drbd8_8.4.3-0ubuntu1%7Eppa2.dsc diff against 2:8.3.13-2 (debian/ dir only): http://paste.ubuntu.com/5570163/
[10:57] <jamespage> rbasak, sure
[11:02] <jamespage> rbasak, +1 uploaded thanks for doing that work
[11:03] <rbasak> jamespage: no problem. Thank you for sponsoring!
[11:38] <jamespage> Daviey, wondered why mongodb took so long to build - it also builds all is dependencies and static links them
[11:38] <jamespage> lol
[11:38] <Daviey> fml
[11:41]  * RoyK sticks to postgresql
[11:43] <Sander^work> Do anyone have some experience with canonical support? Wondring if I should go for service spesific support, like for eg. mysql.. Or for ubuntu support as it  covers more services.. Do anyone in here have any support agreements?
[11:50] <vezq> Sander^work: what kind of support you are looking for?
[11:51] <Daviey> Sander^work: I think Canonical support is brilliant.. but some might argue i am biased.
[11:55] <Sander^work> vezq, basicly mainly for mysql and apache.. We have virtualization platforms as vmware and xen.
[12:23] <Sander^work> Daviey, Do you know if canonical have deep mysql experience?
[12:25] <Daviey> Sander^work: depends what aspect of deep you mean.. :).. If it's optimisation of database schema for mysql, then no.. if it's.. "How do i do foo?" .. "Or foo doesn't seem to be working?".. then likely yes
[12:30] <Sander^work> Daviey, Are they eg. able to assist in recovering from a system failure with corrupt mysql data? In the current case the fix was to set innodb_file_per_table=1 and export all tables invidually and reimport them. Is this a typical case they could have found out about?
[12:35] <Daviey> Sander^work: I would hope so.. but probably best to speak to them :)
[12:59] <ivoks> jamespage or adam_g anyone around?
[12:59] <jamespage> ivoks, yes
[13:00] <david_> any one remember the command that repeatedly executes a command. So I can give it a command like ps ax and it reacts like top ?
[13:01] <david_> watch
[13:01] <david_> I found it
[13:46] <nilli> I'm on an Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS server and I've run into issues with ports. My PHP script needs to do a SoapClient() call for an address specifying port 2443, but my server doesn't seem to respond on that port. I used instructions on http://portquiz.positon.org:2443/ and got no response on this Ubuntu server, while doing the same thing on a different server did give me a response.. so how do I make my Ubuntu server allow this port?
[13:47] <ikonia> nilli: what is listening on that port ?
[13:47] <nilli> sudo netstat -anpc | grep 2443
[13:48] <nilli> tcp        0      1 myip:51624        theirip:2443     SYN_SENT    19378/apache2
[13:48] <ikonia> nilli: , I asked what was listening on that port
[13:48] <nilli> how do I check that?
[13:48] <ikonia> nilli: is the port 2443 on a server you manage ? or someone elses
[13:49] <nilli> someone else's, but when I try to connect I only get "connection timed out", which is the same symptom I get when testing the wget command from portquiz
[13:49] <ikonia> nilli: just do a basic telnet test
[13:49] <ikonia> nilli: confirm the port is open and listening
[13:50] <nilli> "telnet portquiz.positon.org 2443" gets stuck at "Trying..."
[13:51] <ikonia> nilli: ok, so that sounds like the remote server is not responding
[13:51] <nilli> but if I go to the address with :2443 in my browser, I have no issues
[13:52] <nilli> https://payment.raddabarnen.se:2443
[13:53] <ikonia> nilli: I get a connection
[13:53] <ikonia> nilli: if I telnet to payment.raddabarnen.se 2443
[13:53] <nilli> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
[13:53] <nilli> so my server is the issue
[13:54] <ikonia> nilli: are you running a firewall ?
[13:54] <nilli> I have no idea
[13:54] <nilli> I started working at this company just recently and I had to instruct my host how to give me root access because he didn't know how
[13:55] <ikonia> nilli: ok, so it's doubtful it's a software firewall, but it's worth checking
[13:55] <ikonia> nilli: more probable it's a network firewall
[13:55] <ikonia> both could be right though
[13:55] <nilli> I hope it's a setting on this machine, we'll have unusable websites in 2 weeks unless I can fix this :S
[13:56] <ikonia> nilli: check ufw service, try turning it off if you can
[13:56] <ikonia> nilli: that will remove the ubuntu default firewall
[13:56] <nilli> ufw: command not found
[13:56] <ikonia> (disable it)
[13:56] <ikonia> it's a service, not a command
[13:57] <nilli> in init_d then?
[13:57] <jpds> It is a command.
[13:57] <ikonia> jpds: can you just run ufw ?
[13:57] <jpds> ikonia: Yes.
[13:57] <ikonia> there you go then
[13:57] <jpds> ikonia: How else would you configure it?
[13:57] <ikonia> jpds: I meant to stop and start, I thought it was just a wrapper around iptables
[13:58] <nilli> sudo ufw disable
[13:58] <nilli> sudo: ufw: command not found
[13:59] <ikonia> nilli: iptables -L will show if you have any rules
[13:59] <nilli> one screen of lines, they all seem to go from "source anywhere" to "destination anywhere"
[13:59] <ikonia> so looks pretty open
[14:00] <nilli> with one line for source localhost and another for destination localhost
[14:00] <nilli> ah, and they all say ACCEPT
[14:01] <nilli> hm, I see that they specify things like :ftp and :ssh and :www
[14:01] <nilli> if I add one for :apache2 do you think my issue could be solved?
[14:01] <ikonia> no apache2 is wwww
[14:01] <nilli> ah ok
[14:01] <ikonia> nilli: do a sudo iptables -F and flush thenm
[14:01] <ikonia> them
[14:01] <ikonia> or jpds maybe able to do it better with ufw
[14:01] <ikonia> I don't know the ufw syntax
[14:02] <jpds> ikonia: sudo ufw status verbose
[14:02] <ikonia> thanks jpds
[14:02] <ikonia> there you go nilli
[14:02] <ikonia> saves me reading the man page
[14:02] <nilli> except I don't have ufw
[14:02] <jpds> ikonia: Which you should do anyway.
[14:02] <ikonia> jpds: if I needed it I'd be happy to
[14:03] <ikonia> jpds: is ufw default in 8.04 ?
[14:03] <jpds> ikonia: I think so.
[14:04] <jdstrand> it is
[14:04] <ikonia> nilli: actually.......can you show me the output of uname -a on your server
[14:04] <ikonia> I wonder if this is one of those vps ones that have bits missing
[14:04] <nilli> Linux nilli 2.6.32-042stab055.10 #1 SMP Thu May 10 15:38:32 MSD 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:04] <jpds> Nice.
[14:04] <ikonia> there we go
[14:05] <ikonia> it's one of those dodgy vp's
[14:05] <ikonia> vps
[14:05] <nilli> how do you see that?
[14:05] <ikonia> the kernel
[14:05] <nilli> the bits behind 2.6.32 ?
[14:05] <ikonia> yes
[14:05] <nilli> mkay
[14:05] <jpds> nilli: An Ubuntu kernel would never require someone getting stab'ed.
[14:05] <ikonia> let alone 55 times
[14:06] <nilli> haha
[14:06] <jpds> ikonia: 'tis but a flesh wound.
[14:06] <ikonia> nilli: in seriousness you can either mess around with iptables, or contact your host and ask them if they are firewalling you locally or external to the guest
[14:06] <ikonia> nilli: experience says the install will be an "odd one"
[14:07] <nilli> it doesn't make sense that port 2443 would be blocked if my iptables say ACCEPT source anywhere destination anywhere
[14:07] <ikonia> nilli: depending on your rules, it could be accept on established, or anything,
[14:07] <ikonia> flushing the rules will be a good test
[14:08] <ikonia> but you may also be firewalled at the host, not guest
[14:08] <nilli> but flushing them sounds scary, what if some of it was added on purpose
[14:08] <nilli> can I pastebin the file to you?
[14:08] <ikonia> best to talk to your host
[14:08] <nilli> the output*
[14:08] <nilli> he doesn't know anything :S
[14:08] <ikonia> best to pick a host that does
[14:08] <nilli> hehe
[14:10] <nilli> http://pastebin.com/GY8VRApy
[14:10] <daniel_-> eebsd
[14:10] <ikonia> that looks like it's dropping ports
[14:11] <ikonia> nilli: I'd drop those rules and test
[14:11] <nilli> so -F ?
[14:11] <nilli> is there a way for me to backup this first?
[14:11] <ikonia> iptables-save
[14:13] <nilli> "Use I/O-redirection provided by your shell to write to a file."
[14:13] <nilli> iptables-save > file.txt
[14:13] <nilli> sounds good?
[14:13] <ikonia> yes
[14:14] <nilli> nice, ok, that looks good
[14:15] <nilli> -F seems to take a while
[14:17] <nilli> is it supposed to? it's not done yet
[14:17] <nilli> $ sudo iptables -F
[14:19] <ikonia> that should flush the rules
[14:20] <nilli> I haven't had any output at all yet, so it seems it's still working
[14:20] <nilli> oh damn.. I can't ssh into it anymore
[14:21] <ikonia> it's possible this is set from the host
[14:21] <nilli> oh god, the websites aren't responding
[14:21] <nilli> >_<
[14:21] <nilli> need to cal lmy boss
[14:21] <nilli> did I mention I just started working here?
[14:22] <ikonia> you need to call your host
[14:34] <br0xen> blkperl: I got pulled away from my desk yesterday, thanks for the help re: postfix.
[14:40] <nilli> hah, managed to find the host (tracing ip ftw) and he was kind enough to change the drop policies to accept
[14:40] <nilli> but "iptables-restore < iptables.txt" doesn't work
[14:40] <nilli> Error occurred at line: 2
[14:41] <nilli> line 2 is "*mangle"
[14:41] <nilli> iptables-restore v1.3.8: iptables-restore: unable to initialize table 'mangle'
[14:45] <nilli> and that seems to be a kernel issue
[14:50] <nilli> no it wasn't, I just forgot sudo
[14:51] <zul> jamespage: fixing quantum wheee
[14:51] <jamespage> zul,well I'm fixing mongodb on ARM
[14:52] <jamespage> fun and slow at the same time....
[14:52] <zul> jamespage:  ouch good luck on that...whats wrong?
[14:52] <jamespage> zul, 2.2.x introduced a whole load of new ASM code
[14:52] <jamespage> which works on x86 - but not arm
[14:52]  * zul runs away
[14:52] <jamespage> zul, stealing a patch from fedora
[14:53] <zul> jamespage:  well thats not too bad then
[15:04] <zul> jamespage: hey can you upload rtslib to staging as well? (when you get a chance)
[15:08] <jamespage> zul, please review - http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/ca-updates/
[15:09] <zul> jamespage: +1
[15:12] <jamespage> zul, uploaded
[15:12] <zul> jamespage:  cool
[15:20] <zul> jamespage/yolanda: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/quantum/quantum-ftbfs-2/+merge/150824
[15:35] <Pupeno_w> Does anybody know how to change the file system type from ext3 to ext4 so running mount /dev/blah /mnt will mount it as ext4 instead of ext3?
[15:43] <crass> I've gotten myself into a strange situation. Somehow the ondisk partitions are out of sync with what the kernel thinks they are
[15:44] <crass> specifically, a partition has been deleted, but the kernel still sees it and the filesystem on it is mounted.  Is there a way to get the starting sector of the partition from the kernel?
[15:47] <crass> just found it in /sys/block/sdX/sdXY/start
[15:49] <ardian> Hi I just installed apache on amazon ec2 which I also just created but when I try to access the public dns nothing comes up do I have to wait for the dns to be updated or anything like that or is there a firewall problem that I have to work on ?
[15:54] <JanC> what do you mean with "access the public dns"?  using a host name to browse to your virtual server?
[16:04] <ardian> JanC: giving my address to the web browser
[16:05] <ardian> it doesn't give anything back
[16:05] <JanC> what do you mean by "address"?  IP address or the domain name?
[16:07] <ardian> JanC: yes
[16:07] <JanC> ...
[16:08] <JanC> ardian: which of the two?
[16:08] <ardian> JanC: domain is pointed to the ip so its the same
[16:09] <ardian> JanC: when I visit the site it is like the server down, even that though I am connecting to it via ssh
[16:10] <JanC> you ssh to the domain name?
[16:10] <ardian> yes
[16:10] <ardian> ec2-54-235-8-102.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[16:11] <ardian> JanC: to this one, do I have to enable the ports on the Control Panel of it
[16:12] <JanC> I've never used EC2, but if there is a control panel where you have to open ports, then I assume there is a firewall  ☺
[16:15] <JanC> I can't even ping to ec2-54-235-8-102.compute-1.amazonaws.com, so it seems like they firewall even useful things...
[16:16] <ardian> I see
[16:32] <Haris> Hello all
[16:34] <Haris> I have to setup ubuntu (via cobbler) on a centos based pxe for network installs of 12.04lts. I have a cobbler distro/profile set. I have the netboot iso/image for 12.04lts. How do I setup cobbler/pxe for installs ? So far, from the setup that I'v done thus far, whenever the install starts, it asks me for the missing cd-rom
[16:50] <zul> hallyn:  i have libvirt-1.0.3-rc2 packaged
[16:51] <hallyn> zul: how's it testing?
[16:51] <zul> hallyn: just building it now
[16:51] <hallyn> cool
[17:07] <Haris> when I run cobbler import from the mini iso for 12.04lts, does it import the initrd.gz and kernel that work up network installs or does it import the images which look for a local cd/dvd-rom ?
[17:08] <Haris> I'v tried from the main CD image for precise. Its not doing the network part
[17:22] <garbagegod> I have a linode in which apache2 is failing silently
[17:22] <garbagegod> Is there a verbose option to /etc/init.d/apache2 or anything?
[17:24] <Pici> garbagegod: failing as in it wont start?
[17:24] <garbagegod> correct, but no errors
[17:25] <garbagegod> same with apache2 -k
[17:26] <tyson_> trevorj: HI there
[17:29] <garbagegod> anyone
[17:30] <Haris> does the http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04.2-server-amd64.iso image contain the files from netboot ?
[17:31] <tyson_> trevorj: it seems that the experiments of last night didn't go down that well. The errors start on the booting fd0 error then /dev/mapping/swap-1 unable to find drive to mount and then waiting for network configuration and waiting another 60 sec.
[17:56] <tyson_> Hi, I am having trouble with the swap drive when booting, can anyone help?
[18:12] <Haris> got it working
[18:15] <zul> hallyn:  https://launchpad.net/~zulcss/+archive/libvirt-testing
[18:17] <hallyn> zul: ack
[18:18] <hallyn> (i'm trying to build a cross-gdb armhf->amd64...  crosstools from linaro not treating me right)
[18:18] <hallyn> maybe i should ping plars
[18:19] <hallyn> stgraber: any preference for the name for ppa i create for userns kernel for ubuntu-lxc?
[18:20] <hallyn> should we just name it generically ppa:ubuntu-lxc/kernel, and re-use for any future lxc kernel extensions?
[18:20] <stgraber> hallyn: I think kernel makes sense
[18:22] <hallyn> k
[18:52] <_KaszpiR_> yawn
[18:52] <_KaszpiR_> ubuntu server, any vnc advised?
[19:00] <dedalus> are the raring server daily iso builds functional?
[19:00] <dedalus> they're really tiny, and when i tried to boot a VM off one it said no kernel modules found
[19:14] <three18ti> hey guys.  I need to find an image on the file system but I don't know the name of it.  I have a copy that I can match against.
[19:15] <three18ti> I thought about taking the md5 sum but that seems like there would be a lot of overhead on a production server...
[19:15] <three18ti> I see imagemagick has "identify" but I'm not sure how to leverage that to find the image.
[19:15] <sarnold> three18ti: if you limit it to just files with the same size..
[19:15] <three18ti> ok, that might help.
[19:15] <three18ti> that way I'm only md5ing a few files.
[19:16] <sarnold> three18ti: yeah; something like: find /path -size 2220c   (for chars! go figure)
[19:17] <three18ti> or maybe find /path -size 9.93KB
[19:17] <three18ti> or I guess just K
[19:18] <sarnold> three18ti: I'd be leery of trusting that. Call me crazy but I know where I stand with exact numbers of bytes. :)
[19:18] <three18ti> ok, that makes sense.
[19:19] <three18ti> also seems that find doesn't like the decimal.
[19:21] <three18ti> thanks sarnold.
[19:35] <adam_g> jamespage, just updated that glance charm MP with an alternative fix
[19:54] <streulma> hello, what's more stable, use Ubuntu Server of Debian as server ?
[19:56] <ScottK> It depends
[19:57] <ogra> ... on how you bolt it to the ground ...
[19:58] <ScottK> And if the stuff in Debian stable is new enough to have the features you need.
[20:00] <streulma> hmm, yes, but htop, I can't do htop -C
[20:01] <ogra> well, so you already have your answer :)
[20:47] <thegoat> ok, so i have sendmail up and running, and it says mail was delivered to my mailbox successfully, but i fire up alpine, or even just mail and they say i have no mail
[20:48] <thegoat> any idea where it's keeping it?
[21:29] <sarnold> thegoat: first place to look is /var/spool/mail/username
[21:30] <thegoat> found it....there was an id10t error on my part
[21:34] <sarnold> thegoat: hehe, nice :D
[22:35] <sh_t> hi everyone. im trying to get ufw working with nat masquerading but i'm getting an error "ERROR: problem running ufw-init" after following the simple instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/firewall.html about adding a few entries to before.rules. can anyone suggest how to go about fixing this?
[22:36] <sh_t> if I remove the entries for the nat masquerading the error is gone
[22:36] <jdstrand> sh_t: can you paste your before.rules files at paste.ubuntu.com (or similar)?
[22:37] <sh_t> it's a stock config with those exact lines from the docs there.
[22:38] <TheLordOfTime> paste them anyways?
[22:38] <TheLordOfTime> s/paste/pastebin/
[22:38] <jdstrand> sh_t: if you could past them, it would help
[22:38] <jdstrand> s/past/paste/
[22:38] <sh_t> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5571958/
[22:38] <jdstrand> sh_t: you forgot to add COMMIT after the POSTROUTING rule
[22:39] <sh_t> ah. the instructions didnt seem clear about that. i thought it was just saying "dont delete it from the end of the file"
[22:39] <jdstrand> sh_t: you need a COMMIT for each table. in your case, *nat and *filter
[22:39] <sh_t> right, i understand
[22:39] <sh_t> thanks :]
[22:39]  * jdstrand nods
[22:40] <sh_t> interesting though thats it not underneath the *filter
[22:40] <sh_t> although i guess thats at the end of the file, nvm
[22:40] <tedski> sh_t: quick question... is this host on a static or dynamic ip?
[22:40] <sh_t> tedski: issue is resolved
[22:40] <tedski> i know
[22:41] <tedski> but, i was just curious
[22:41] <sh_t> it's on a static ip
[22:41] <tedski> was going to offer some input unrelated to your issue
[22:41] <sh_t> just rigging up an openvpn gateway
[22:41] <tedski> i prefer to use SNAT over MASQUERADING for static IP hosts
[22:42] <tedski> -A POSTROUTING -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -o eth0 -j SNAT --to-source xx.xx.xx.xx
[22:42] <tedski> where xx.xx.xx.xx is your static ip
[22:43] <tedski> that's just a best-practices type thing... not related to any issue
[22:44] <sh_t> ok, thanks
[22:45] <tedski> np
[22:50] <sliddjur> i updated /etc/pam.d/common-password:password        requisite       pam_cracklib.so retry=3 minlen=8 difok=3 dcredit=1 ucredit=1 lcredit=1 ocredit=1
[22:50] <sliddjur> why doesnt new password rules work?
[22:50] <sliddjur> do i need to restart some service?
[22:53] <sarnold> sliddjur: I believe pam changes take effect immediately
[22:59] <sliddjur> sarnold: and cracklib-check are supposed to look for the values set in common-password?
[23:00] <sarnold> sliddjur: I don't know about cracklick-check -- does it have an /etc/pam.d/cracklib-check or similar entry?
[23:00] <sarnold> sliddjur: .. or is just an application?
[23:01] <sliddjur> sarnold: an application
[23:01] <sliddjur> anyways, when setting new password for my user it doesnt seem to use my values set (minlen=8)
[23:08] <sarnold> sliddjur: hrm, the pam_cracklib(8) manpage has 'required' instead of 'requisite'
[23:11] <sliddjur> sarnold: doesnt seem to change behaviour
[23:12] <sarnold> sliddjur: harumph :) sorry, no more ideas...
[23:12] <sliddjur> sarnold: ok. thanks anyways. got to sleep :)
[23:12] <sarnold> sliddjur: woo :)
[23:25] <tyson_> Hi, in which machine do I have to set the ssh key??? main machine or the one i am accessing remotly?
[23:26] <sarnold> tyson_: private portion on the local machine, public portion into the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys of the remote machine
[23:26] <tyson_> sarnold: thank you
[23:32] <bastidrazor> if i were to want nm-applet to manage my etho, would i remove 'auto etho' from /etc/interfaces?
[23:54] <roaksoax> zul: how do you fix stuff like this? :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maas/+bug/1134036
[23:55] <bigjools> why would LC_ALL not be set anyway?
[23:56] <roaksoax> bigjools: yeah that's why I was asking him since I never came across such thing
[23:56] <bigjools> it seems to happen on a few of my server installations
[23:56] <roaksoax> i do remember smoser dealing with similar bugs
[23:56] <roaksoax> smoser: around?
[23:56] <bigjools> oh and to fix this particular instance, LC_ALL=C didn't help, I had to set it to C.UTF-8
[23:56] <bigjools> wtf!


[04:10] <stokachu> do i need a separate auth token for staging.launchpad.net?
[04:11] <wgrant> stokachu: Yes.
[04:12] <stokachu> how do i set that up? i dont see a link for obtaining a new key for this
[04:12] <stokachu> it is showing all my last authenticated sites as well even though i haven't logged into staging.launchpad.net
[04:13] <stokachu> ive already got 2 factor auth setup for launchpad.net as well
[04:13] <wgrant> Oh
[04:13] <wgrant> You mean for staging SSO?
[04:13] <stokachu> yea
[04:13] <stokachu> it asks me for my auth token and when i enter the generated one in it tells me the password is invalid
[04:13] <wgrant> The answer to that really different question is still "yes". You'll need to talk to webops to get your account set up.
[04:14] <wgrant> Because obviously the OTP setup breaks down if you have two entirely separate services consuming a single devicec.
[04:14] <stokachu> ah
[05:04] <stokachu> issueing a PUT needs to have the entire json record+attributes along with any modifiable changes i want to make?
[05:04] <stokachu> and PATCH is for single attribute updates only?
[05:05] <wgrant> stokachu: PATCH permits any subset of the fields to be updated.
[05:05] <stokachu> do i need to include them all whether they are being changed or not?
[05:06] <stokachu> so I need to use PATCH if i want to update a single attribute in the bug record, for example, title
[05:06] <wgrant> PUT requires them all even if they're unchanged
[05:06] <wgrant> PATCH lets you omit those which you don't care about
[05:06] <stokachu> gotcha
[05:33] <micahg> any clue what OOPS-422f48f79bb99108ae783792af2e8c99 is about, I get it when clicking through from a search field to a blueprint
[05:34] <micahg> s/field/page/
[05:37] <wgrant> micahg: It's a 404
[05:38] <micahg> ah, so the search has cached something no longer existing?
[05:38] <wgrant> It's a Google search, and Google takes forever to forget about pages, so probably.
[05:39] <micahg> ah, LP uses Google for its own search?
[05:39] <wgrant> The global search does, yes.
[05:40] <wgrant> I think it might have been renamed to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-monthly-snapshots
[05:40] <micahg> wgrant: excellent, thanks, too bad LP doesn't e-mail on renames
[05:41] <wgrant> Quite.
[05:41]  * micahg files bug
[05:42] <micahg> Bug #1137102
[05:44] <wgrant> Oh
[05:44] <wgrant> I really wouldn't have filed a bug
[05:44] <wgrant> But OK
[05:44] <wgrant> We have about 5500 other low bugs
[05:45] <micahg> well, it's a bug, when it gets fixed depends on if there's an itch for someone to scratch
[05:46] <wgrant> s/when/whether/
[06:17] <stokachu> So i attempted to create a PATCH request defining a json attribute i wish to update, however im getting a 400 response from failing to retrieve the url passed, could someone look at my request and response headers to see if anything is out of the ordinary http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575512/
[06:18] <stokachu> the same url works when issueing a GET
[06:20] <stokachu> does the json content need to be in the header rather than content body?
[06:21] <wgrant> stokachu: What's the body of the 400?
[06:23] <stokachu> wgrant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575531/
[06:25] <stokachu> is there a header parameter i might be missing?
[06:27] <wgrant> stokachu: The authorization info would usually go in the Authorization header in this case, I think, but I'm not quite sure.
[06:28] <stokachu> ill see if i can put that in the headers
[06:29] <stokachu> wgrant: the api/hacking document doesn't mention anything about the authorization headers
[06:29] <stokachu> https://help.launchpad.net/API/Hacking "Modifying resources: PATCH"
[06:32] <wgrant> stokachu: https://help.launchpad.net/API/SigningRequests
[06:32] <wgrant> "Using the credentials"
[06:33] <stokachu> ok ill try that
[07:01] <stokachu> wgrant: ok so now adding the authorization header works but it returns a 209 'content returned' rather than 200
[07:01] <stokachu> and that rc code must be internal to LP b/c its not a HTTP response code
[07:02] <wgrant> stokachu: That's part of the PATCH spec, IIRC
[07:02] <stokachu> ah ok
[07:02] <stokachu> i need to check there too
[07:03] <stokachu> in any case you were right on about it being in the header for POST/PATCH
[07:03] <wgrant> Looks like 209 was in the draft PATCH RFC, but omitted from the final years later (long after LP started using it)
[07:03] <stokachu> ah ok that makes sense
[07:04] <stokachu> will probably go away in LP after 2015 i suspect?
[07:04] <wgrant> Probably.
[07:04] <stokachu> i haven't check the devel reponse code to see if it is the same so it might already be removed
[07:04] <wgrant> No, that's all shared code.
[07:04] <stokachu> ah ok
[07:12] <stokachu> this is so awesome :P
[11:07] <zequence> Hi, I'm having trouble loggin into UDS. It claims my username is already in use with a different account. I can't logout.
[11:07] <zequence> I'm suspecting it might have something to do with an account merge a few months ago, but that's just a guess
[11:08] <wgrant> zequence: You'll need to talk to whoever manages Summit nowadays
[11:08] <wgrant> It's a problem on their end, usually
[11:08] <wgrant> And yes, it's usually caused by account merges.
[11:09] <zequence> wgrant: Ok, thanks
[15:20] <dsmythies> Hi, I have never been on this channel before (and almost never been on IRC before). I was directed to here to possibly get help with my issue.
[15:20] <dsmythies> I am wondering why my e-mail address shows in the revisions list for the main serverguide branches revisions listings on launchpad.
[15:20] <dsmythies> I would prefer that it not show my e-mail address, but rather show my name and be a link to my LP page, just like everybody else.
[15:20] <dsmythies> More importantly, I am wondering if I did something wrong, resulting in the difference.
[15:20] <dsmythies> References: See recent Revisions section of:
[15:21] <dsmythies> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/serverguide/precise
[15:21] <dsmythies> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/serverguide/quantal
[15:21] <dsmythies> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/serverguide/raring
[15:21] <dsmythies> Note: bzr launchpad-login is set to dsmythies
[15:21] <dsmythies> .
[15:21] <dsmythies> Thanks for any help ... Doug Smythies
[15:26] <mgz> dsmythies: your email on ~dsmithies is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>where was your whomai is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:26] <mgz> with an extra s
[15:26] <mgz> you want to correct one or tother
[15:28] <mgz> I take it the second is wrong? that means your existing commits will still have the wrong address, but once you change your local bzr config future commits will be linked to your launchpad profile correctly
[15:29] <dsmythies> Thanks, and sorry for such a dense error.
[15:30] <dsmythies> you mean "bzr whoami" , which I see is wrong.
[15:53] <belak> Is it possible to mirror a launchpad ppa?
[18:32] <hggdh> I am trying to login to launchpad.net, but all I get is "Your login was unsuccessful, user cancelled". I certainly did not cancel the login. No other messages, or errors, are given
[18:35] <bijoo> Hi, is http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat-x-updates-/ubuntu really slow for everyone or just me? I was getting 1MB+/s minutes ago, but now it's at ~15kB/s.
[18:38] <bijoo> Nevermind, speed is back to normal now.
[18:38] <bijoo> Thank you, Freenode.
[18:57] <dobey> hggdh: username is hggdh?
[18:59] <hggdh> dobey: hggdh2
[19:00] <hggdh> dobey: if it helps any, I left Canonical as of yesterday; I think the clean-up process cleaned more than it should
[19:01] <dobey> it looks like an active account on launchpad. perhaps you are getting the error message from sso instead? is the message on login.launchpad.net or login.ubuntu.com domain?
[19:02] <hggdh> the URL provided with the error message suggests openid -- https://launchpad.net/+openid-callback?starting_url=https%3A%2F%2Flaunchpad.net%2F%257Ehggdh2&janrain_nonce=2013-03-01T19%3A01%3A56ZktydYR&openid.mode=cancel&openid.ns=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.net%2Fauth%2F2.0
[19:03] <hggdh> and yes, it was on login.lp.n
[19:03] <dobey> hggdh: you probably need to ask in #canonical-is i think.
[19:03] <dobey> yeah
[19:05] <hggdh> dobey: difficult, given that I am no longer Canonical...
[19:05] <hggdh> oh
[19:06] <hggdh> nope
[19:07] <dobey> oh i thought that was the freenode channel
[19:07] <hggdh> there is no such freenode channel
[19:07] <dobey> czajkowski: ^^ do you know what the channel to ask for help about SSO is on freenode?
[19:07] <hggdh> and I *can* authenticate on login.ubuntu.com (and wiki.ubuntu.com)
[19:11] <hggdh> in fact, I was connected to LP today; from about 1-2 hours ago I started having issues
[19:16] <dobey> hggdh: ah, the channel is apparently #canonical-isd
[19:16] <dobey> sorry
[19:16] <hggdh> dobey: thanks, getting there now
[22:18] <toordog> hi, for some reason, i cannot see a package i just upload to my ppa using : dput ppa:ocontant/ppa freeipa_3.1.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes
[22:18] <toordog> it says it's already been uploaded but I cannot see it on launchpad.net
[22:22] <dobey> it's not instant
[22:22] <toordog> it's been 2h or so
[22:22] <dobey> did you get an e-mail saying it was accepted?
[22:24] <dobey> if you didn't get an e-mail, the most likely cause is that the source package wasn't signed with a gpg key for a user that's allowed to upload to that ppa
[22:25] <dobey> uhm, where are you looking at on launchpad?
[22:25] <dobey> your archive's name isn't 'ppa'
[22:26] <dobey> it's freeipa312
[22:26] <dobey> the package is there and waiting to build: https://launchpad.net/~ocontant/+archive/freeipa312/+packages
[22:52] <toordog> just got it
[22:52] <toordog> so it was probably because the first time i uploaded it wasn't signed
[22:52] <toordog> thx