[00:00] <konrados> Thanks _Sym_, cofffeebean  but... what if I wanted to run programs I have already installed? I mean, those typical KDE programs (like kdevlop) will not run, right? But I have installed a few non-kde programs (usually programs useable in terminal) - what if I want to run them too?
[00:00] <cofffeebean>   i wont go back to v16 of ubuntu..,  after updating & upgrading it
[00:01] <Vern_> lucas-arg is there a way to try fix packages from terminal
[00:02] <cofffeebean>   konrad  i'm not familiar with KDE..,  i myself am still somewhat new to both linux mint &  ubuntu linux..
[00:04] <konrados> cofffeebean, _Sym_ "Switching desktop environments is as simple as installing a software package and selecting your preferred environment on the login screen, known as a display manager."  is this true? Is this that simple? Src: http://www.howtogeek.com/193129/how-to-install-and-use-another-desktop-environment-on-linux/
[00:08] <cofffeebean>   i havent even figured out yet how to adjust the drivespace once ubuntu & linux mint is put on !..,  u usually get a choice to adjust ubuntu when installing it next to another OZS  but lastnite i put ubuntu 14 on a drive with xp-pro  &  i didnt get the dialog that lets a person adjust the drivespace..,  i got 160gb drive now & only 20gbs was allocated to v14 &  i dont kno if thats enuff really ..
[00:11] <robyn> clear
[00:12] <robyn> hey, I need help with irssi. Does someone know how to connect to slack xmpp server with irssi?
[00:13] <teward> robyn: does this help?  http://www.robgolding.com/blog/2014/05/16/using-slack-with-irssi/
[00:13] <cofffeebean>   robyn  i dont even kno what that is..,  i'm still new to ubuntu linux  myself..
[00:15] <cofffeebean>   bbiaf..
[00:16] <robyn> @teward, unfortunately its for irc, not xmpp
[00:16] <proq> I'm having an abysmal time installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu 16.04 for a geforce gtx 970 - tried about 15 different things and still nothing.  does anyone have a good set of instructions?
[00:17] <Apachez> will UNITY_LOW_GFX_MODE affect other opengl apps such as steam games?
[00:17] <proq> and by nothing, I mean the end result is it always boots into a black screen
[00:25] <briangc> ?? Lots of members, but quiet.
[00:26] <briangc> Maybe my deodorant has given out ??
[00:28] <aruns> Hi, I am trying to watch a Twitch stream on Livestreamer using the FFMPEG player.
[00:29] <aruns> But I am getting the following: https://bpaste.net/show/e02408b3deb0
[00:29] <aruns> Does anyone know why FFMPEG doesn't seem to be working with Livestreamer?
[00:29] <aruns> I am on Ubuntu 16.04, and my version of Livestreamer is 1.12.2
[00:30] <aruns> Oh wait, FFMPEG is a codec...
[00:36] <d4rk0wl> Use livestreamer through VLC, just replace mmpeg (assuming you've installed VLC)
[00:39] <siva_machina> Or use mpv
[00:39] <siva_machina> mpv works out of the box with Twitch
[00:40] <siva_machina> You may have to do some tweaking if you want it to work better though
[00:41] <siva_machina> like maybe not use the outdated version of youtube-dl in the repo.
[00:41] <FMan> I wonder about Qt
[01:01] <G0t_M1lk> hi
[01:02] <Bashing-om> proq: Try a purge/re-install. ' sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' This is IF BumbleBee is not installed . reboot to see the effect .
[01:05] <proq> Bashing-om: ok, will try....
[01:07] <Bashing-om> proq: K; standing by :)
[01:11] <proq> what does bumblebee do?
[01:12] <Bashing-om> !Bumblebee
[01:14] <Bashing-om> proq: Be aware BumbleBee is depreciated in favor of nvidia-prime . Only applicable in hybrid graphics .
[01:31] <Guy1524_> hey guys, so in steam, when I launch an application, it appears in the launcher and ALT+TAB menu as another steam window just like a friends window or settings window, instead of an application w/ its own icon slot in alt + tab menu / launcher
[01:32] <Guy1524_> and since I can't change steam, I was wondering if there was a way to tell unity that a window w/ a certain title was part of a certain .desktop application
[01:32] <Guy1524_> so that unity would give it that icon and group it w/ that .desktop file
[01:32] <Guy1524_> is this possible?
[01:33] <drown> Hello folks, I'm having GPG pubkey error, I've fixed  this sort of thing before by manually re-adding keys, but I think I've broken things further this time.
[01:34] <drown> I now have this when i run sudo-apt-get update
[01:34] <drown> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2B3F92F902D65EFF
[01:34] <drown> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY FE6B20ECA7AD98A1
[01:34] <drown> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 52B709720F164EEB
[01:34] <drown> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CEABE34406AEEB9A
[01:34] <FMan> lol
[01:37] <Bashing-om> Drone`: As something to try : ' sudo apt-key update ' .
[01:40] <trism> Guy1524_: StartupWMClass= in the .desktop file. you can check the wmclass with xprop and clicking on the window
[01:41] <Guy1524_> trism: awesome, ill try right now
[01:45] <Guy1524_> it worked!
[01:46] <Guy1524_> thanks so much
[01:46] <trism> Guy1524_: excellent
[01:49] <trumped> I will grab you by the
[01:49] <trumped> Oh hi
[01:50] <FMan> ...
[01:50] <bazhang> ubuntu support issue trumped ?
[01:50] <trumped> I want to plant some backdoors and  i will make them GREAT
[01:51] <bazhang> thats not on topic here at all trumped
[01:51] <trumped> mybad
[01:52] <bazhang> take the chatter elsewhere please trumped
[01:56] <qweqwe> hey guys
[01:56] <qweqwe> I have a problem... I tried using the addition drivers functionality that Ubuntu provides
[01:56] <qweqwe> it installed the nvidia driver but now I can't get into X
[01:58] <qweqwe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23468767 is my xorg.log file
[02:06] <juacom99> hi, one question. I'm trying to update my repository and i get stuck at uy.archive.ubuntu.com (an alias for ubuntu.c3sl.ufpr.br). after a while i get this error ** (appstreamcli:7157): CRITICAL **: Error while moving old database out of the way.
[02:06] <OSaucey> I've set up CUPS and Samba and added a shared printer with a RAW driver. I've added it to a Windows and selected the printer driver and I can print from Windows to the printer on the linux box, but if I want multiple copies of something, only one copy actualy prints. How do I fix this?
[02:06] <juacom99> anyone is geting this too?
[02:09] <proq> Bashing-om: it works, thanks!  I think it was a combination of the steps you gave me and uninstalling unity and lightdm that made it finally work (15 hours of grief later)!
[02:11] <Bashing-om> proq: Great .. Glad it all worked out .. Happy trails to you :)
[02:12] <juacom99> ok this is rare, i try to update at this live session and i got the same error :S
[02:15] <clvx> juacon99: try changing your repository to archive.ubuntu.com
[02:16] <clvx> juancom99, if you change your repository, you'll also have to update your key.
[02:16] <clvx> juacom99*
[02:19] <juacom99> clvx: how do i do that??. i didn't change my repository on my sistem anyway :S
[02:24] <clvx> juacom99, esto debería correr: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list- && sudo sed -i 's/uy.archive.ubuntu.com/archive.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:25] <clvx> juacom99, I mean it should be run..
[02:25] <juacom99> i speak spanish no problem m8
[02:25] <clvx> juacom99, it creates a copy of your sources.list and then changes all the ocurrences of your repository
[02:26] <juacom99> clvx: i will test this on my live and come back to you ok?
[02:26] <clvx> juacom99, after that you have to run apt-get update..
[02:26] <clvx> ok
[02:27] <juacom99> clvx: same old same :S
[02:30] <clvx> juacom99, revert the changes - just move it to the original.. then try this: rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists /var/cache/apt; apt update; apt clean .. I got that from: http://askubuntu.com/questions/761592/unable-to-apt-get-dist-upgrade-on-a-persistent-ubuntu-16-04-usb
[02:30] <protn> hey hey
[02:30] <protn> hows ubuntu ganstas doing
[02:30] <protn> for some reason switching languages via keys combo stopped working in lubuntu 14.04
[02:30] <protn> whats the easy way to fix i
[02:30] <protn> it
[02:31] <protn> there are no regional settings they are gone too
[02:33] <juacom99> clvx: it seems to work, thanks clvx you are a livesaver
[02:33] <juacom99> sorry, i talk to early
[02:33] <juacom99> same error ;S
[02:34] <clvx> juacom99, hahahah.. it happens.. don't forget to sudo apt-get update;
[02:34] <clvx> juacom99, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:36] <juacom99> clvx: i did that's where i get the erros, kubuntu 16.04
[02:37] <clvx> juacom99, have you tried using the software
[02:38] <clvx> & updates utility?
[02:38] <clvx> sometimes when it's running, it blocked apt cli
[02:38] <clvx> blocks*
[02:39] <juacom99> clvx: the problem is i don't have a gui, it seems to broke since the last update, i gess is related with this
[02:40] <clvx> juacom99, come on .. you need to start by the important stuff first.
[02:41] <protn> He/She shows a sudden interest in a different type of music.
[02:42] <clvx> juacom99, check this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1601971
[02:42] <protn> people hüllo :D
[02:42] <protn> how i can fix darn lubuntu fail to swap lingo
[02:42] <protn> keyboard shortcut aint working
[02:43] <juacom99> clvx:  ok let's start from the biggining. i log out this afternoon with the system ok. when i came home some hours latter i see kubuntu loadng screen and thene a black screen (instead of the login windows)
[02:45] <juacom99> clvx: i get in a a tty and run an apt-get update and got that error so i boot live to google it and it seems the boot have the same issu
[02:46] <clvx> juacom99, what did you do before having the system broken?
[02:47] <juacom99> use steam, and chrome :S
[02:47] <Bashing-om> juacom99: What results ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' ?
[02:47] <juacom99> Bashing-om: i didn that too, is not responding
[02:48] <clvx> juacom99, hmm.. CS:GO? xD ... ok, check the thread I sent you
[02:48] <juacom99> Bashing-om: sorry that one is responding
[02:48] <juacom99> Bashing-om: uy.archive.ubuntu.com is not for me
[02:49] <Bashing-om>  juacom99 SO, your dig bit into the ehernet cable ?? // We just want to know that you can reach the outside world .
[02:49] <juacom99> clvx: i did but i didn't fnd any solutions there, my var/cache is wirable for root
[02:49] <clvx> juacom99, do you have connectiviy from your broken box to Internet .. can you do nc google -v 80 or a traceroute or ping to any public IP address?
[02:49] <juacom99> clvx: yep i can peen google
[02:49] <juacom99> *ping
[02:50] <clvx> juacom99, can I infer you are resolving DNS ok then?
[02:51] <juacom99> yep uy.archive.ubuntu.com is an alias for a brazilian server
[02:51] <juacom99> clvx: uy.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:51] <juacom99> clvx: sorry  ment ubuntu.c3sl.ufpr.br
[02:54] <cyberspectre> I'm trying to communicate with an rs232 device on Ubuntu. Can anyone here help me with that?
[02:54] <krytarik> juacom99: Well, that definitely isn't accessible from here either.
[02:55] <rdf> Anything specific about the rs232 port?
[02:56] <cyberspectre> rdf, here's the documentation for the device. I'm trying to use cutecom. I filled in the right baud rate, data bits and stop bits, no handshake, etc. but inputting hex codes does nothing
[02:57] <cyberspectre> http://www.rotel.com/sites/default/files/product/rs232/RSP1066%20Protocol.pdf
[02:58] <juacom99> krytarik: so the server is broken?
[02:59] <rdf> Dunno. Serial is pretty straight forward, you either communicate or you don't. Have you tried from the CLI?
[03:00] <cyberspectre> rdf, I haven't... isn't it really really complex?
[03:00] <clvx> juacom99, use this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23468960/
[03:02] <rdf> I used to use minicom, or just screen... screen /dev/ttyS2
[03:02] <halisaurus> Does anyone have a good resource for turning on persistance on an existing 16.04 live usb? I've tried editing from the boot menu but can't seem to save the persistent keyword, and making a casper-rw file fails.
[03:04] <gt8ost4l> does anybody have borders around link in qpdfview like me?
[03:05] <juacom99> clvx: do you have kubuntu 16.04 too?
[03:07] <vlab> have a windows 10 vm running through qemu/kvm. using virt-manager as the front. getting just massive memory usage. best as I can google, qemu does a malloc for memory calls on guest page fault. from what i can see it seemingly never gets released. I'm sitting fairly minimal with all VMs powered off and htop is reporting 16GB of memory usage
[03:08] <cyberspectre> rdf, screen huh? let me try
[03:08] <vlab> is there a better way of running a windows vm or am i fucking up somewhere badly
[03:08] <rdf> You'll have to set up the serial port
[03:15] <hopeshare> hey community, I'm trying to use git with ubuntu server using ssh, I just installed git in my windows machine can someone help me in how to connect to my server using git and deploy my web just for testing purpose
[03:15] <hopeshare> I have already created a key and configure it and it's working fine
[03:15] <hopeshare> I just need like a command in how to connect to the server using ssh key
[03:26] <aFeijo> hi. How can I copy 6 files that contain "document" in their name, and replace document by "component" ?
[03:29] <clvx> juacom99, I <3 unity
[03:33] <halisaurus> a related question to the one from before: If I edit the grub from the boot screen, how can I save the edit?
[03:33] <jsalex2> @aFeijo - http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/102647/how-to-rename-multiple-files-in-single-command-or-script-in-unix
[03:34] <halisaurus> ctrl-x isn't working as a meta/ctrl, it's just typing the character x
[03:37] <Bashing-om> halisaurus: An edit to the kernel boot parameters in grub is a one time instance . To make it other than once, edit the /etc/default/grub file .
[03:40] <halisaurus> Bashing-om: That can be edited from within ubuntu while it's running?
[03:41] <halisaurus> Bashing-om: the guide I used to create the live usb makes a single partition and it's unreadable from my "main" OS once I've set it up.
[03:42] <Bashing-om> halisaurus: Yes .. once the desired edit is made ,, propagate the change to system by ' sudo update-grub ' . Wait one . what is the end goal here ?
[03:44] <halisaurus> Bashing-om: a persistent ubuntu 16.04 on a 64 GB USB drive
[03:44] <halisaurus> Bashing-om: that boots on Mac
[03:46] <Bashing-om> halisaurus: This guide : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent ?
[03:47] <herpderphurr> Hi everyone. I've been trying out btrfs, but I'm wondering what happens when rsync tries to read a corrupted file off a btrfs filesystem that doesn't duplicate any blocks? I'm guessing rsync would just crash or report an error, but I haven't been able to test this.
[03:49] <aFeijo> jsalex2 thanks!
[03:50] <mahakal> how to open chrome browser from terminal?
[03:50] <fn2> chrome-browser
[03:50] <mahakal> yup
[03:51] <Mojtaba> Hello, I know how to loop over files in a directory, but could you please what should I do, if I want to loop through all files, even those in the subdirectories?
[03:51] <aFeijo> mahakal, google-chrome is the command
[03:52] <mahakal> oh yeah ,you are right thanku
[03:52] <aFeijo> :)
[03:52] <halisaurus> Bashing-om: This might do the trick. Another blog/guide I found suggested a similar setup (two partitions) but I wanted to get some input before starting over.
[03:52] <halisaurus> Bashing-om: Thanks.
[03:52] <herpderphurr> Mojtaba, what are you doing? You could just use the find command to recursively process all files under a directory.
[03:52] <linelevel> Hello. I am having an intermittent problem connecting to wifi networks. At some point (after a few hours or days of uptime) I stop being able to connect to wifi networks. The problem persists past a `sudo service network-manager restart`, and even persists past `kill -9 -1`, but goes away upon a full system reboot. I am running 16.04 on a Thinkpad T410.  I installed lollypop, if I launch using the hud, the icon appears in the application bar for a couple of seconds and then disappears, it doesn't actually launch and doesn't give me an error. but if i launch through terminal it works
[03:53] <Mojtaba> herpderphurr: I have something like this: for l in *.mp3; do mv "$l" "${l:0:3};done
[03:53] <Guest69566> to add to the weirdness, if I dock it after launching it from terminal, and then try to launch from there, it won't launch
[03:53] <Mojtaba> herpderphurr: I want to do the same thing for all files
[03:54] <herpderphurr> Mojtaba: try playing with the find command. It's perfectly suited for recursing through directories.
[03:54] <aFeijo> any way to use the sed command, from inside a bash file, where the replace content will be from the 1st parameter $1 ?
[03:54] <aFeijo> I try many different ways, didnt work
[03:55] <aFeijo> sed /test/$1/g filename.ext
[03:55] <herpderphurr> e.g. find . -exec cat {}
[03:55] <herpderphurr> \;
[03:55] <aFeijo> sed "/test/$1/g" filename.ext
[03:55] <Bashing-om> halisaurus: From a Mac system, I am lost . Hope the link helps .
[03:55] <juacom99> i just connect to thank you clvx, I try the first command you send and it work like a charm
[03:56] <Mojtaba> herpderphurr: thanks
[03:56] <Guest69566> could anyone remind me the location of the application launchers(or however they might be called)
[03:57] <Guest69566> I mean the file that has the command, application name and icon setting that unity picks up to show what it shows
[03:58] <juacom99> isn't that in .local o .conf?? just a whild guess, i don't use ubuntu
[03:58] <halisaurus> Bashing-om: that link doesn't really seem mac specific, but I get the gist of it. If I suddenly disconnect it's because I borked my machine ;)
[03:59] <zanshin> The noobslab ppa (ppa:noobslab/macbuntu) supports 16.04 but apparently not 16.10 (yet). Is there a way to force my 16.10 installation to install the theme and icons from the PPA? I.e., force it to accept the 16.04 version? Or do I need to be patient and wait for the 16.10 version to arrive?
[03:59] <herpderphurr> Guest69566: I think you're looking for .desktop files. The system desktop files are somewhere under /usr/share/applications. Your user .desktop files are under ~/.local/share/applications. Disclaimer: I do not use Unity, so I might be completely wrong.
[03:59] <juacom99> Guest69566: this is what you mean http://askubuntu.com/questions/40931/where-are-the-unity-launcher-desktop-files ?
[04:00] <Guest69566> yeah, .desktop files, thank you
[04:01] <aFeijo> done!
[04:02] <Guest69566> ok this is weird, i uninstalled lollypop a few minutes ago but it still comes in unity search, both ~/.../aplicationts and its /usr/ counterpart are populated but lollypop is in neither
[04:03] <Guest69566> after using locate, it seems there are also desktop files at usr/local/share...
[04:07] <Guest69566> so i've confirmed that there are no further lollypop.desktop files but it still appears on unity search, is there any way to make it forcefully research or reindex the applications?
[04:07] <Guest69566> looks like I spoke too fast and it reindexed already
[04:08] <pietilson> Hello, I am trying to use Putty to ssh into my ubuntu box.  My $TERM is xterm-256color, yet I fail basic 256 color tests like the one found at https://github.com/chriskempson/base16-shell. Anyone ideas?
[04:11] <halisaurus> Bashing-om: see you on the other side(?)
[04:11] <jota25> :-D
[04:13] <cfhowlett> zanshin as that package is notoriously shaky, suggest you wait for a proper 16.10 package
[04:23] <elosz> Hello. Has anyone successfully run Sikuli on ubuntu machine?
[04:23] <cfhowlett> elosz, wrong question.  ask again.
[04:23] <cfhowlett> !ask | elosz
[04:24] <elosz> Hello. I am unable to run Sikuli on ubuntu. I did sudo apt-get install sikuli-ide and patched it as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sikuli/+bug/1313398 . But it doesn't run.
[04:25] <aus_mal> Hello everyone. I'm trying to reinstall firefox afresh. Did apt-get remove --purge then apt-get autoremove, but when i apt-get install the packages seem to still be on my computer and firefox is the same as before I removed it. What step am I missing? Thanks.
[04:26] <cfhowlett> aus_mal, it's using the ffox package that is already present in your cache.  sudo apt clean will remove those
[04:27] <aus_mal> cfhowlett, thanks a lot!
[04:32] <aus_mal> Hi, me again. I had to reinstall the package but all the settings are still present. Is there another package I need to remove?
[04:33] <cfhowlett> aus_mal, ah, SETTING!  those are stored in your /home/ somewhere.  look for and kill .mozilla
[04:34] <aus_mal> will do. bless you, thanks!
[04:38] <pietilson> for future random knowledge, it turns out that putty does not support all the correct escape keys for 256 mode as it would lead you to believe. I switched to Cygwin/mintty and it works flawlessly
[04:40] <guest-kagnsb> hello
[04:40] <Random832> pietilson: i think you can do TERM=putty or maybe putty-256color
[04:40] <Random832> mostly what it is is that a lot of terminals don't support redefining colors, which is covered in the tests but not really important to most applications.
[04:48] <rfleming> Anyone know why volume levels are lower in Linux than in Windows?
[04:51] <Random832> rfleming: maybe your volume's set lower?
[04:52] <rfleming> Naw... 100% on Linux is equivalent to 70% on Windows.  It doesn't matter the hardware, it just isn't as lound
[04:52] <rfleming> loud.
[04:52] <Random832> have you checked in a mixer app what your master and pcm volume are both set to?
[04:52] <rfleming> Mind you, this is with several IBM/Lenovo laptops
[04:53] <Random832> also what content are you comparing with
[04:53] <rfleming> They're set to 100%, although I can bump it to 150%
[04:53] <mahakal> whois
[04:53] <rfleming> Random832: it doesn't matter the content.  Watching YouTube, listening to flac files, whatever.
[04:54] <rfleming> sticking in a Windows SSD in the laptop, those same things are louder at 100%
[04:55] <rfleming> Also doesn't matter if it's Mint, Ubuntu, Antergos, Fedora.
[04:56] <rfleming> I was wondering if it's just me, or if others noticed
[04:57] <mahakal> hey guys ,how to hide the ip in the whois list
[04:57] <mahakal> i am running xchat as client
[04:58] <aus_mal> I would also like to know, how can we get a ubuntu/member/username cloak, if that's what it is?
[04:58] <rfleming> mahakal: go to #freenode and ask for a cloak
[04:58] <freakyy> hi all. i have 2 questions. 1. what is the package called which installs the ubuntu-gnome software manager like, where i can install the apps usin a gui.
[04:59] <freakyy> 2. what is a good messenger app or the default for ubuntu-gnome?
[04:59] <rfleming> I don't know how you get an ubuntu specific cloak
[05:00] <rfleming> !cloak
[05:00] <aus_mal> aha!
[05:00] <aus_mal> thanks for that
[05:00] <rfleming> problem solved
[05:06] <vern_> ubuntu install crashed on dell laptop
[05:06] <rfleming> that's unfortunate
[05:06] <rfleming> what happened?
[05:06] <vern_> well
[05:06] <vern_> it crashed?
[05:07] <vern_> and looks like not only bad luck
[05:07] <freakyy> i found gnome-software
[05:07] <freakyy> and empathy
[05:07] <rfleming> did you make an ISO?
[05:07] <freakyy> i hopethose r the right ones
[05:07] <rfleming> burn to a DVD?
[05:07] <vern_> i made two
[05:07] <vern_> it looks like something with nvidia
[05:08] <rfleming> do you have errors?
[05:08] <ubuntu131> When logging in through console, where are the customized messages (like cowsay or random quotes) stored? my /etc/motd & .bashrc and /etc/motd.d are empty
[05:08] <rfleming> can you paste them?
[05:08] <rfleming> !pastebin
[05:08] <aus_mal> freakyy, those sound right
[05:09] <vern_> I cant install anymore
[05:09] <rfleming> freakyy: you're looking for a chat client?
[05:09] <rfleming> vern_: as much as we'd like, we can't help if we can't see what's happening.
[05:09] <vern_> I erased 14 and cant install `6
[05:09] <vern_> 16
[05:10] <vern_> well im just reading that lots of peaple with nvidia cards he
[05:10] <freakyy> rfleming: also yes. everything which looks good and is cool and is integated into gnome
[05:10] <rfleming> can you install 14.04.5 again?
[05:10] <vern_> had hard time updating to 16
[05:10] <rfleming> freakyy: that's one of the nice things... the downside is that all the GNOME software like Music and Photo are not feature-rich
[05:10] <aus_mal> freakyy, is the default e-mail client thunderbird or evolution?
[05:11] <vern_> so was hoping finding somebody here
[05:11] <rfleming> aus_mal: I believe evolution now that Thunderbird has been abandoned
[05:12] <freakyy> i think evolution but im usin thunderbird
[05:12] <rfleming> GNOME also heavily uses evolution-data-server for the 'Online Accounts' features to work
[05:12] <napster> hi
[05:12] <vern_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/759995/after-upgrade-from-14-04-to-16-04-login-screen-runs-in-a-loop-while-console-logi
[05:13] <rfleming> Hi napster
[05:13] <aus_mal> have you seen wiki.gnome.org/Apps ?
[05:14] <freakyy> what is so good with budgie?
[05:14] <Guest93086> Hello Everybody
[05:14] <freakyy> lemme google
[05:14] <rfleming> freakyy: It's a lean DE written from scratch and fully GNOME compatible
[05:14] <ubuntu131> vern_: did the install actually stop?
[05:15] <freakyy> rfleming: is it better than ubuntu-gnome?
[05:15] <freakyy> and can i already install it / try it out?
[05:16] <rfleming> freakyy: Kinda like comparing apples and oranges
[05:16] <vern_> yes it did
[05:16] <vern_> several times
[05:16] <rfleming> freakyy: it's already in the repos... budgie-desktop
[05:16] <vern_> and sad something about crash report
[05:16] <vern_> but than become unresponsive
[05:17] <vern_> so had to force reboot
[05:17] <freakyy> ok thanks
[05:17] <freakyy> ill install it and try it out
[05:18] <rfleming> freakyy: if you use VM's just download the budgie-remix ISO from the website
[05:18] <ubuntu131> vern_: install again and write down the crash report, could be anything
[05:18] <rfleming> it's pure Ubuntu with budgie as the DE
[05:18] <freakyy> rfleming: i dont use vms. but yea, i installed budgie-desktop now how do i get in there?
[05:18] <rfleming> log out, and select Budgie desktop from lightdm
[05:18] <vern_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/760116/grub-failing-to-install-installation-crashes
[05:18] <freakyy> ok thank you :D
[05:18] <freakyy> ill restarrt
[05:19] <rfleming> you don't need to restart
[05:19] <vern_> something like that
[05:19] <freakyy> and then select budgie-desktop
[05:19] <rfleming> just log out
[05:19] <vern_> failed to install grub
[05:19] <freakyy> but i dont have lightdm installed?
[05:19] <freakyy> i think im usin gdm3?
[05:19] <rfleming> same difference
[05:19] <freakyy> with ubuntu-gnome
[05:19] <freakyy> ok then
[05:19] <freakyy> brb
[05:19] <vern_> dont know should i disable uefi?
[05:20] <freakyy> back. but no budgie int he dropdwn?
[05:20] <rfleming> aus_mal: I think you need to become a member first. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[05:20] <rfleming> !membership | aus_mal
[05:21] <ubuntu131> vern_: I'm reading it. Why would you disable it ?
[05:21] <vern_> dell suport says to enable uefi
[05:21] <aus_mal> yeah, gotta get started on those contributions
[05:21] <vern_> and its not working now
[05:22] <freakyy> rfleming: i didnt have budgie in the dropdowns?
[05:22] <mahakal> i have setup system password which is required during booting  accidently ..someone plz tell me the  safest way to remove it
[05:22] <mahakal> os ubuntu 14.04
[05:22] <ubuntu131> vern_: multiple suggestions for this error on that version of ubuntu suggest: install, allow it to crash, shut down, use a 14.04 live usb to boot-repair
[05:23] <ubuntu131> But you are sure that's what is happening? it's crashing during grub install?
[05:23] <vern_> yep 14 was working fine
[05:23] <rfleming> freakyy: it should be where you'd select GNOME fallback, etc.
[05:23] <vern_> problem started when I updated
[05:23] <freakyy> i dont even have gnome fallback
[05:23] <freakyy> i only have gnome gnome over wayland and mate
[05:23] <ubuntu131> vern_: to be clear though, it's a fresh install right
[05:23] <freakyy> where i want to uninstall mate
[05:24] <freakyy> ill reboot
[05:24] <freakyy> brb
[05:24] <vern_> could not make dist upgrade
[05:24] <vern_> no
[05:24] <mahakal> i have setup system password which is required during booting  accidently ..someone plz tell me the  safest way to remove it
[05:25] <vern_> it was dell factory install 14. which I   updated
[05:25] <ubuntu131> vern_: so this crash happening during dist upgrade ?
[05:25] <vern_> no
[05:25] <vern_> first could not login to graphic
[05:25] <mahakal> OP <mahakal>
[05:25] <vern_> then reinstall
[05:25] <vern_> cant boot
[05:26] <vern_> now installer crashing
[05:26] <vern_> to resume
[05:26] <vern_> after regular update
[05:26] <vern_> could not login
[05:27] <vern_> then tried dist upgrade
[05:27] <vern_> in terminal
[05:27] <vern_> could not boot
[05:28] <vern_> then reinstall
[05:28] <freakyy> omg this looks really cool!! :)
[05:28] <vern_> insteller crashed
[05:28] <ubuntu131> vern_: I don't entirely follow. Get the crash report or error and http://paste.ubuntu.com/ paste it here
[05:28] <freakyy> where can i change the settings of budgie?
[05:29] <ubuntu131> vern_: other than that, if it's an issue with grub not installing properly, get a live USB for ubuntu 14 and boot repair from that
[05:29] <rfleming> freakyy: top right corner, click on the arrow to open up the panel, then go to settings
[05:30] <vern_> yeah I ve heard rhat allready
[05:30] <vern_> that
[05:30] <vern_> but it looks silly
[05:31] <Texou> vern_: where does the installer crash?
[05:31] <vern_> grub
[05:31] <Texou> vern_: and at reboot, what happens?
[05:31] <vern_> dell troubleshoot screen
[05:32] <Texou> hmmm
[05:32] <Texou> vern_: maybe reboot again?
[05:32] <Texou> this screen should appear only the 1st time after hard reboot
[05:32] <vern_> doing that all night
[05:32] <Texou> ah
[05:32] <vern_> its 6 here
[05:33] <Texou> vern_: here too
[05:33] <vern_> oh ur close?
[05:33] <ubuntu131> vern_: out of curiosity. did you try switching bios boot option to legacy?
[05:33] <jgrasser> jeezus, yall are on the other side of the globe
[05:33] <jgrasser> that's good. free os has arms
[05:33] <Texou> vern_: have you tried following some steps in the troubleshoot? to fix problems
[05:34] <vern_> I mentioned that earlier
[05:34] <vern_> yeah i tried lots of stuff
[05:34] <ubuntu131> vern_: I saw you mention UEFI. did you actually switch the option though ?
[05:34] <freakyy> rfleming: ok cool. and where can i find places like, my home folder etc.?
[05:35] <vern_> no it was set to uefi factory
[05:35] <vern_> but it was 14,04
[05:35] <ubuntu131> vern_: those are my only 2 suggestions, from the info I have. try changing it to Legacy, or bootup with a ubuntu 14 liveusb and boot-repair
[05:35] <vern_> which was oem
[05:36] <vern_> thnx man
[05:36] <vern_> but it does not look like a solution
[05:37] <vern_> this is something that should be fixed
[05:37] <ubuntu131> vern_: I've no clue if boot-repair will help, but if it's actually grub related, it's a good chance
[05:37] <rfleming> freakyy: I suggest editing the panel and adding the places widget
[05:38] <freakyy> rfleming: how to? oO
[05:38] <vern_> well 14.04 was working fine and i can just reinstall it
[05:38] <vern_> but I was hoping somebody actually fixed a issue
[05:38] <ubuntu131> vern_: I hear you. but that must mean you have access to live usb or cd...eh?
[05:38] <rfleming> freakyy: Uhhh... beside Applets|Notifications click the gear
[05:38] <rfleming> then edit
[05:39] <rfleming> then add the Places applet
[05:39] <freakyy> rfleming: found
[05:39] <freakyy> but
[05:39] <freakyy> i dont have any places applet
[05:39] <vern_> I have HP with 16.04
[05:39] <vern_> and internet connection
[05:39] <vern_> and lots of usb sticks
[05:40] <ubuntu131> vern_: So why the aversion to running boot repair
[05:40] <rfleming> freakyy: you've found the end of my rope.  I'm running xfce right now
[05:40] <freakyy> rfleming: damnit ;D
[05:40] <freakyy> ok rfleming thank you very much :)
[05:40] <rfleming> freakyy: use Google
[05:40] <rfleming> the information is out there
[05:41] <rfleming> actually... use YouTube
[05:41] <vern_> becouse It was working untill i pressed update button
[05:41] <rfleming> freakyy: Budgie originally was written for Solus OS... so look that way
[05:41] <vern_> so it will probably happen again wright?
[05:42] <ubuntu131> vern_: the boot repair is for installing grub from ubuntu 14 instead of 16
[05:42] <Texou> vern_: you may try upgrading in commandline to see errors printed
[05:42] <vern_> I did
[05:43] <Texou> vern_: and what errors?
[05:43] <vern_> think about graphic card drivers
[05:43] <Texou> hmmm
[05:44] <Texou> well anyway yes, try repairing from a 14.04 dvd to restore a correct boot
[05:45] <vern_> but now install broken and cant boot anyhow
[05:45] <vern_> have to reinstall 14
[05:45] <ubuntu131> That's what the live usb/dvd is for
[05:45] <vern_> haha
[05:45] <vern_> thnx anyway
[05:46] <vern_> any good distro to recomend?
[05:46] <ubuntu131> Good luck man. I dunno what boot-repair did to you :D but hope you sort it out
[05:46] <vern_> only tried mint and ubuntu
[05:46] <vern_> and suse
[05:46] <jonat311> hi
[05:51] <freakyy> rfleming: hey, how can i move an applet? like its "centered" now but i want it somewhere else. but drag&drop doesnt work
[05:52] <rfleming> freakyy: go back to the menu and use the arrows to move them up or down
[05:52] <freakyy> oh yes the arrows - of course ;D they were out of my screen ;D
[05:52] <freakyy> thanks ;D
[05:53] <freakyy> omg i like this budgie
[05:53] <freakyy> i installed from repo now
[05:53] <freakyy> which installs latest version
[05:53] <freakyy> which has the places applet
[05:53] <freakyy> ;D
[05:53] <freakyy> where will be the official budgie channel?
[05:54] <freakyy> brb reboot
[05:54] <freakyy> want this whole thing fresh now
[05:54] <freakyy> ;D
[05:59] <Bashing-om> freakyy: budgie is petitioning for acceptance as  a 'buntu derivitive . Their efforts for acceptance are in progres . ( note that bugie is in the repo ! )
[06:00] <freakyy> Bashing-om: omgubuntu says it will be with 17.04 an official flavour
[06:00] <freakyy> sorry bad english
[06:01] <Bashing-om> freakyy: :)
[06:02] <freakyy> (:
[06:02] <lsw> ...
[06:02] <lsw> hello
[06:04] <freakyy> hi lsw
[06:04] <freakyy> is it normal that budgie has an ibus applet
[06:05] <Platypus-Man> how long does it usually take for Ubuntu to get newer versions of software in the repo? for example, in the repos for 16.10, latest I see is 2.1, but reading tmux release notes, 2.2 was released April 10th and 2.3 released September 29th
[06:05] <freakyy> where can is ee a screenshot of ubuntu budgie remix default desktop
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> !latest | Platypus-Man
[06:05] <freakyy> !backports
[06:05] <ablest1980> hi lotuspsychje
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> hi ablest1980
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> !info tmux
[06:08] <freakyy> budgie works like windows 10 ... u add icons to the ... bar :D
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> Platypus-Man: did you find a bug in tmux or so?
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | freakyy
[06:09] <Platypus-Man> lotuspsychje: I think I did, and would like to upgrade to newest version to see if it persist
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> Platypus-Man: i think best idea, would be adding a new bug, so devs are forced to change versions
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> !bug | Platypus-Man
[06:13] <freakyy> how can i add programs to autostart in budgie and how can i set icon pack is there anything like a tweak tool?
[06:14] <freakyy> hm, my owncloud isnt displayed as icon in the taskbar
[06:16] <benguitar> Quick question in general with Ubuntu, would it be possible to setup Ubuntu (or any distro) along with Windows without the use of a bootloader on the same drive? Part two of this question is I'd love to build a system with Ubuntu and Windows, each on a separate drive, which would be selectable through the BIOS.
[06:18] <cyberspectre> benguitar, that's easily done through the BIOS if they're on independent drives
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | benguitar
[06:19] <benguitar> Sweet, thank you!
[06:20] <cyberspectre> benguitar, it's a great idea, too. Was considering it myself. It's a little clunky having to switch the boot device every time, but avoiding the numerous hassles of dual booting with Windows seems well worth it
[06:21] <benguitar> cyberspectre, I'm considering it for a system76 machine with two M2 drives for OS installs and two data drives for files. :-)
[06:21] <cyberspectre> benguitar, you don't even need to separate your files, really
[06:21] <benguitar> Really? Huh.
[06:21] <cyberspectre> one shared drive formatted NTFS would work great
[06:22] <benguitar> Really, that is pretty cool.
[06:28] <freakyy> with budgie, how can i fast shutdown my pc? if i click the power button fromt he upper right, it only gives me logout options
[06:30] <freakyy> ok that seems to be known
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> freakyy: sudo halt -p
[06:32] <freakyy> isnt shutdown -h now better?
[06:32] <freakyy> but yea, ... i think that should be fixd (the shutdown thing)
[06:32] <freakyy> brb, reboot
[06:36] <glitchd> i thought it was "shutdown -h now"
[06:37] <glitchd> wasnt that the command?
[06:37] <glitchd> freakyy, ^^
[06:38] <glitchd> lotuspsychje, ..
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> glitchd: halt -p works great for me
[06:39] <glitchd> right on
[06:40] <glitchd> never used that command
[06:40] <glitchd> so it just basically kills all running processes and shuts down immediately?
[06:43] <glitchd> so how is everyone?
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | glitchd
[06:48] <freakyy> guys can anyone help me maybe .. im using ubuntu budgie remix and the problem is - the owncloud icon doesnt show up on the upper right ...
[06:50] <glitchd> lotuspsychje, ouch..it was just friendly banter, but ok then.
[06:50] <glitchd> freakyy, are you sure its running?
[06:56] <freakyy> glitchd: it should be yes
[06:56] <freakyy> my discord also autostarts
[06:58] <freakyy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23469556/
[06:58] <freakyy> it looks like its running
[06:58] <freakyy> it also syncs stuff
[06:58] <freakyy> i just found out
[06:58] <freakyy> but ... it just wont display the tray icon
[06:58] <glitchd> 16.04?
[06:58] <freakyy> 16.10
[06:58] <freakyy> ubuntu budgie remix
[06:59] <AJ_Z0> Please test current chromium-browser on e.g. https://smile.amazon.com or https://www.spamcop.net and say whether you get a NET::ERR_CERTIFICATE_TRANSPARENCY_REQUIRED error
[06:59] <glitchd> what version of owncloud?
[07:00] <AJ_Z0> That's 53.0.2785.143 on Ubuntu 16.04
[07:00] <freakyy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23469556/
[07:00] <freakyy> sorry wrong paste
[07:00] <freakyy>   Installiert:           2.2.4-1.1
[07:00] <freakyy> for 16.10
[07:01] <freakyy> Installiert means installed (apt-cache policy owncloud-client)
[07:01] <freakyy> oh i just found the shutdown thing for ... budgie awesome  ... so its there ;D
[07:01] <glitchd> freakyy, the only info im finding about this issue refers back to 14.04
[07:01] <freakyy> glitchd: :((
[07:01] <freakyy> glitchd: i rebootet several times it doesnt show up
[07:02] <freakyy> want a screenshot? ;D
[07:02] <glitchd> freakyy, they do list a possible fix, have a look http://askubuntu.com/questions/771885/owncloud-sync-client-tray-icon-missing
[07:02] <glitchd> no screenshot needed, i can image what a missing icon look like lol
[07:03] <glitchd> freakyy, the icon is missing but is there a blank space where it should be? like an icon without a picture?
[07:04] <glitchd> freakyy, and if there is a blank space can you click it and does it do anything when clicked?
[07:04] <freakyy> http://i.imgur.com/zELS1la.png <-- no blank space ... nothing i can click ...
[07:06] <glitchd> freakyy, im going to install it and see if the problem persists
[07:07] <freakyy> ok thank you
[07:07] <freakyy> u need to add ... a repository
[07:07] <freakyy> to get teh latest version
[07:07] <glitchd> freakyy, lkol i just figured that out
[07:07] <freakyy> ;D
[07:07] <glitchd> freakyy, gimme a second to get it going
[07:07] <freakyy> awkay ;D
[07:08] <glitchd> freakyy, im not sure if i need to install all the other server prereqs or not since im not actually running a server
[07:09] <glitchd> if so, it might take more than  few minutes
[07:09] <freakyy> u dont need teh server
[07:09] <freakyy> only owncloud-client
[07:09] <freakyy> if u need an account i can make u one
[07:09] <freakyy> but i dont know if u need an account
[07:10] <freakyy> i love budgie ;D
[07:10] <freakyy> its like win10
[07:11] <freakyy> also - the discord icon appears ... so its nothing wrong there ... just the owncloud icon wont show up
[07:12] <glitchd> its installing now
[07:12] <freakyy> ok :)
[07:12] <freakyy> want me to make u an account?
[07:12] <freakyy> just 1GB or something and temporary+
[07:12] <glitchd> sure username glitchd
[07:12] <freakyy> ok one moment
[07:25] <Welastevil> hi everyone!
[07:26] <Welastevil> since I have installed ubuntu 2016 lts Im having problems updating it
[07:26] <ablest1980> i went back to 14.04
[07:26] <Welastevil> can not update...ecerytime I tryed, "system problem detected"
[07:27] <Welastevil> this is bad....
[07:28] <ablest1980> http://askubuntu.com/questions/133385/getting-system-program-problem-detected-pops-up-regularly-after-upgrade/369297
[07:28] <ablest1980> ^
[07:39] <Welastevil> thats sad....
[07:39] <Welastevil> someone here happy with 2016 version?
[07:39] <cfhowlett> Welastevil, focus your question on an actual support problem please
[07:40] <cfhowlett> did you do the steps ablest1980 suggested in the link
[07:44] <newhoa> Does anyone here use Pale Moon? Since the upgrade to 16.10 I can't get H.264 html5 video to play.
[07:54] <BlackVenom> Hey folks. I have configured Deluge to run as a service but when I try to connect to it from my ThinClient it doesn't show as being online
[07:54] <mahesh> hai
[07:54] <BlackVenom> Any ideas folks?
[07:55] <mahesh> hey guys am getting this error please help me on this "Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:55] <mahesh>  eog
[07:55] <mahesh> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1"
[07:56] <ikonia> BlackVenom: is the service actually running
[07:57] <ikonia> mahesh: going to need more detail than that
[07:57] <BlackVenom> Yes if I run systemctl status deluged it shows as running yes
[07:57] <ikonia> BlackVenom: no, is it actually running
[07:57] <ikonia> BlackVenom: can you connect to the port locally
[07:57] <BlackVenom> If I manually run deluge it appears in the ThinClient and works
[07:57] <glitchd> BlackVenom, did u port forward for it?
[07:58] <mahesh> ikonia, even if i run sudo apt-get -f install also am getting the error , i dont know why
[07:58] <ikonia> glitchd:why does he need to port forward ?
[07:58] <glitchd> BlackVenom, nevermind that
[07:58] <glitchd> ..lol
[07:58] <ikonia> mahesh: pastebin the full error please.
[07:58] <BlackVenom> ikonia, what do you mean is it actually running?
[07:58] <glitchd> BlackVenom, i typed that before i read that you can see it if u run it manually
[07:58] <ikonia> BlackVenom: forget manually running it
[07:58] <ikonia> BlackVenom: are you able to connect to the port it's running on
[07:58] <ikonia> BlackVenom: is the process actually running
[07:59] <BlackVenom> hmmmm
[07:59] <BlackVenom> How do I do that?
[07:59] <ikonia> BlackVenom: what port is it running on ?
[07:59] <mahesh> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/ZNaEYMys
[08:00] <ikonia> mahesh: what command triggered that please.
[08:01] <BlackVenom> when I run it manually it runs off port 58846 but not sure about the daemon. How would I see?
[08:01] <ikonia> BlackVenom: you must have configured it
[08:01] <ikonia> BlackVenom: otherwise how do you expect it to run from systemd
[08:01] <mahesh> ikonia,  sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
[08:01] <ikonia> !info youtube-dl
[08:02] <ikonia> mahesh: so what's going on here is the package configure can't run some packages are listed as "half installed"
[08:02] <BlackVenom> ikonia, would i specify the port in the deluged.service file?
[08:02] <ikonia> mahesh: so it appears an earlier package install screwed up and is now blocking you from installing other things
[08:02] <mahesh> ikonia, yes
[08:02] <ikonia> BlackVenom: I'm not trying to be rude here - but you don't know where to configure this sort of thing, yet you're expecting it to just blindly run ?
[08:02] <mahesh> ikonia, so any solution for that
[08:03] <ikonia> mahesh: what package broke it ?
[08:03] <mahesh> ikonia, googlechrome
[08:03] <ikonia> mahesh: try to remove that package
[08:03] <mahesh> ikonia, command?
[08:04] <ikonia> mahesh: why are you not using the package manager gui if you don't know the basics of how to install/remove packages
[08:04] <BlackVenom> It's ok ikonia, no offence taken. I am using a guide online to set it up. Sorry
[08:04] <ikonia> BlackVenom: what guide are you following
[08:04] <mahesh> ikonia, i installed through dpkg -i install
[08:04] <ikonia> mahesh: why ??? you don't know the commands, use the gui, thats what its there for
[08:05] <ikonia> mahesh: man dpkg for the remove option
[08:05] <BlackVenom> ikonia, http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/Service/systemd
[08:06] <ikonia> BlackVenom: where did you get the actual deluge install package from
[08:07] <BlackVenom> ikonia, Deluge official PPA
[08:07] <ikonia> BlackVenom: was it not available from the ubuntu repo
[08:07] <ikonia> I thought ubuntu packaged deluge
[08:07] <ikonia> !find deluge
[08:08] <ikonia> yeah, it's in the ubuntu repos
[08:08] <ikonia> why did you not use the one from ubuntu repos that is already configured for you
[08:08] <mahesh> ikonia, after removing also same error
[08:08] <ikonia> mahesh: how did you remove
[08:09] <BlackVenom> because the ubuntu repo isn't up-to-date
[08:09] <ikonia> BlackVenom: it's fine
[08:09] <ikonia> BlackVenom: what did you need in the PPA version that the ubuntu version didn't provide
[08:09] <BlackVenom> Good question ikonia
[08:10] <BlackVenom> I have no idea
[08:10] <ikonia> so you basically chased a random version number
[08:10] <ikonia> undo what you did - remove the PPA and use the ubuntu built version
[08:10] <BlackVenom> Essentially yes. Whats the difference between the ubuntu repo and deluge repo version apart from the versions?
[08:11] <ikonia> BlackVenom: so if you ask that question - you have no reason to use the PPA
[08:11] <ikonia> remove the PPA, undo what you did and use the ubuntu build
[08:12] <BlackVenom> Right so remove the PPA, remove deluge and start again yes? Any secifi commands to use to completely flush settings etc?
[08:12] <BlackVenom> i usually use remove and autoremove
[08:12] <ikonia> BlackVenom: you'll need to do more than that as you have done things like manually adding users
[08:12] <ikonia> manually creating service files
[08:12] <ikonia> you'll need to undo what you've done
[08:13] <ikonia> and I strongly suggest you personally never use PPA's as it would seem your not at a stage yet where you can manage them or understand software version management (thats not a critique - just a reality)
[08:13] <ablest1980> whats ppa?
[08:14] <ikonia> ablest1980: an unsupported software repo
[08:14] <ablest1980> propritory?
[08:14] <ablest1980> oh
[08:14] <ablest1980> like third party ?
[08:14] <BlackVenom> Thats fair enough ikonia
[08:14] <ikonia> ablest1980: could be from anywhre
[08:14] <ikonia> anywhere
[08:14] <ablest1980> k
[08:15] <BlackVenom> I shall have to read up on it then. I installed Ubuntu server on a headless machine to force me to use the CLI and learn more
[08:15] <BlackVenom> Connect via SSH froma MAc
[08:17] <BlackVenom> Thanks ikonia
[08:25] <carl-eric> Hi, I'm currently trying to install Ubuntu 16.10. There is /dev/sda with Windows 10 on it, Ubuntu is going on two separate drives, sdc and sde, with mdadm raid 1. I gave sdc and sde each a small biosgrub partition, and used the rest on each to layer raid<luks<lvm, which the netinstaller lets me do, and this has worked before.
[08:25] <carl-eric> But when the netinstaller tries to install grub, it fails. the error console shows "Error: Invalid partition table -- recursive partition on /dev/sda" - this is very odd, since the installation is not supposed to touch /dev/sda at all
[08:26] <carl-eric> I suspect it has something to do with Win10, because this did not happen before, but I'm at a loss what to do. Any ideas?
[08:30] <ron__> g
[08:49] <amazoniantoad> I'm trying to install something through the software center, it's requiring that I log into ubuntu one and when I provide my account info it says that I have the incorrect email/password.
[08:49] <amazoniantoad> I know that it isn't wrong
[08:50] <ikonia> amazoniantoad: what are you trying to install
[08:51] <amazoniantoad> ikonia: irc client
[08:51] <amazoniantoad> hexchat
[08:51] <ikonia> hexchat shouldn't ask you for any sort of auth from software center
[08:51] <amazoniantoad> ikonia: it's not asking for comp auth. it's asking for ubuntu one auth
[08:52] <ikonia> amazoniantoad: it shouldn't be asking for any sort of auth
[08:52] <amazoniantoad> ikonia: that threw me off initially but I figured it is part of some kind of update?
[08:52] <cfhowlett> nope
[08:52] <ikonia> amazoniantoad: no
[08:52] <amazoniantoad> ikonia: just searched. I have two software centers installed...
[08:52] <ikonia> amazoniantoad: here we go....
[08:52] <cfhowlett> that IS abnormal ...
[08:52] <amazoniantoad> yup
[08:52] <ikonia> why do you have two installed
[08:52] <amazoniantoad> Just realized..
[08:52] <ikonia> what is the difference
[08:52] <amazoniantoad> I don't know how this hjappened.
[08:53] <ikonia> amazoniantoad: your system is always like this
[08:53] <ikonia> just a random mess/wreck
[08:53] <amazoniantoad> one says Ubuntu Software Center, the other says Software Center
[08:53] <amazoniantoad> ikonia: idk man my brother uses it from time to time
[08:53] <ikonia> "sure"
[08:54] <amazoniantoad> ikonia: I mainly just program on it and game...I don't have motive for installing a secondary software center...
[08:54] <ikonia> yeah, but every problem you have in here is normally something "abnormal"
[08:54] <ikonia> if you just gamed and programmed you wouldn't have half the problems you say you have
[08:55] <amazoniantoad> ikonia: LOL what are you talking about? I haven't been on here in months
[08:55] <ikonia> amazoniantoad: yes, but every time you are here it's with a mess of a problem
[08:55] <Hawkerz> sounds like you should probably uninstall your extra software center
[08:55] <ikonia> amazoniantoad: either way, just remove the wrong version
[08:55] <amazoniantoad> Hawkerz: figured.
[08:56] <Hawkerz> that does seem like a very odd problem though, I can't even conceive of a way to accidentally install an extra software center
[08:56] <amazoniantoad> Hawkerz: Idk.
[08:56] <amazoniantoad> ikonia: Wait, how do you even remember me?
[08:56] <ducasse> amazoniantoad: if one of them is gnome software, keep that. ubuntu software center is deprecated afaik.
[09:00] <ablest1980> sup EriC^^
[09:00] <EriC^^> not much you?
[09:00] <ablest1980> same
[09:02] <ablest1980> im on a old laptop i had since 2011 i first get 14.04 im back on 14.04 after 16.04 which slow for my notebook im wondering should get 12.04
[09:02] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, more ram or lighter OS = lubuntu or xubuntu
[09:03] <ablest1980> i got full ram
[09:03] <jatt> what are the specs of your laptop?
[09:03] <ablest1980>  HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 3.13.0-101-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 2 x AMD A4-3300M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (AuthenticAMD) @ 1.20GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7.3GB, 91.1% free ** Disk: Total: 901.6GB, 93.8% free ** VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sumo [Radeon HD 6480G] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic1: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic ** Ethernet: Realtek S
[09:03] <ablest1980> emiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller ** Uptime: 3h 24m 34s **
[09:03] <ablest1980> sry
[09:04] <jatt> that's the old laptop?
[09:04] <ikonia> Debian....sid ?
[09:04] <jatt> 16.04 should run without issues
[09:04] <ablest1980> yes
[09:04] <cfhowlett> !debian | ablest1980
[09:04] <Hawkerz> looks fine to me, what's the problem with it
[09:05] <jatt> when is it slow?
[09:05] <ablest1980> i thought about debian but im a noob i dont know if debian is like this one which basic
[09:06] <ablest1980> like irc
[09:06] <Hawkerz> it says you are using debian, so if that's true then debian is exactly like what you're using, because it is what you're using
[09:06] <cfhowlett> ablest1980, you are on debian and we don't support that here in ubuntu.  please use the debian channels for support
[09:06] <ablest1980> im ubuntu 14.04lts
[09:07] <ablest1980> unity
[09:07] <ikonia> interesting, what's pulling it up as jessie/sid
[09:07] <ablest1980> idk
[09:07] <jatt> sure you are not on Debian jessie/sid 😉
[09:07] <ablest1980> i never tried debian
[09:07] <cfhowlett> something ain't right, ablest1980
[09:07] <jatt> maybe you mixed repositories at some point?
[09:08] <ablest1980> how
[09:08] <ikonia> it's probably a sloppy package that hasn't been updated
[09:08] <ablest1980> i dont even have debian
[09:08] <ikonia> ablest1980: what does lsb_release -a show
[09:08] <ablest1980> k
[09:09] <FireStriker> Hey guys do you know any good DVD riping software for xubuntu?
[09:09] <ablest1980> tux@tux-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ lsb_release -a
[09:09] <ablest1980> No LSB modules are available.
[09:09] <ablest1980> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[09:09] <ablest1980> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[09:09] <ablest1980> Release:	14.04
[09:09] <ablest1980> Codename:	trusty
[09:11] <ablest1980> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23469851/
[09:16] <ducasse> FireStriker: handbrake
[09:18] <FireStriker> Thanks I would take it it isn't in the repos
[09:18] <ducasse> FireStriker: it is.
[09:18] <ducasse> !info handbrake
[09:19] <FireStriker> Command would be sudo apt-get handbrake
[09:20] <ducasse> FireStriker: apt-get install
[09:20] <angel-swe> Hi, there is a irc client that I try to uninstall / delete from my ubuntu but I am failing to find it... Can some one help?
[09:21] <FireStriker> True so everything right beside the missing install
[09:22] <Hawkerz> right, if you miss parameters the command won't work
[09:22] <Hawkerz> angel-swe: where did you install it from
[09:23] <ikonia> angel-swe: why are you trying to delete it if you dont know what it is
[09:24] <angel-swe> this did help "sudo apt-get purge quassel"
[09:25] <angel-swe> I installed via their webpage..
[09:25] <angel-swe> useless program
[09:25] <ablest1980> you can get hexchat from software center
[09:26] <Hawkerz> that is the command you would use to remove a piece of software that you installed...
[09:26] <Hawkerz> so you hadn't attempted to remove it before asking?
[09:28] <angel-swe> Hawkerz, found command just after I asked here.. sorry
[09:29] <angel-swe> Hawkerz, what do you mean with  "that is the command you would use to remove a piece of software"
[09:29] <angel-swe> it's not removed fully?
[09:30] <Hawkerz> I mean that I was surprised you hadn't encountered the idea of doing things from the command line
[09:30] <Hawkerz> but also I was unclear on how exactly you attempted to remove a piece of software or where exactly you were looking that you failed to find it, if you didn't attempt to do it with the native tools that ubuntu has for managing software
[09:32] <angel-swe> Hawkerz, I look at my files inside and searched in "search your computer"
[09:33] <angel-swe> Hawkerz, the icon is gone from my SideBAr on desktop but there are still some files inside /usr/share/quassel
[09:33] <Hawkerz> in the future you should use the software management tool to manage software
[09:36] <EriC^^> \\\\\\\\\\\
[09:36] <EriC^^> \\\\\\\\\
[09:37] <angel-swe> Hawkerz, you mean this? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/synaptic/
[09:40] <ducasse> angel-swe: synaptic or gnome software if you need a gui, apt in terminal.
[09:50] <Logicwax> ouch....i just upgraded to 16.04 and now i have a login loop
[09:50] <Logicwax> tried reinstalling nvidia driver
[09:50] <Logicwax> didnt help
[09:50] <Logicwax> keep getting "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0"." in my .xsession-errors
[09:51] <yellabs-r2> hi there
[09:51] <FireStriker> Man there annoying
[09:51] <FireStriker> I had one on lubuntu
[09:51] <rohdef> nvidia driver problems. Have installed vha restricted drivers, lsmod shows kernel module is loaded http://pastebin.com/k5z93MZH, yay. But XOrg is completely messed and nvidia-settings does not detect anything. Kubuntu 16.10 nvidia-367
[09:51] <yellabs-r2> i have an usb barcode reader, is there a short bash script to read the scanned barcode ?
[09:51] <yellabs-r2> or program
[09:51] <yellabs-r2> ;)
[09:52] <rohdef> for the record I have had run sudo apt purge nvidia* due to an issue with snapd
[10:00] <yellabs-r2> is there an usb barcode scanner program ?
[10:00] <DiamondSword> hello #ubuntu
[10:01] <DiamondSword> how can I re-organize my wireless network names?
[10:04] <FMan> good morning
[10:05] <ducasse> DiamondSword: like rename them?
[10:06] <freakyy> why doesnt have budgie a ALT+TAB switch ... thing ...
[10:07] <DiamondSword> ducasse, yes
[10:07] <DiamondSword> acutally this is how my wifi list looks like: http://imgur.com/a/x88q2
[10:07] <DiamondSword> I want to remove Ethernet Network things
[10:08] <DiamondSword> they happened after vmware install, I guess.
[10:08] <angel-swe> How do I open permissions necessary folders ?
[10:08] <angel-swe> it's not like windows (open as admin)
[10:09] <Auctus> how do i turn off passwords everywhere, rather than just in terminal like with visudo and nopasswd? I'm making a computer for the sole purpose of playing offline games
[10:11] <ducasse> DiamondSword: they are for the virtual network devices vmware uses, don't know how to get rid of them.
[10:12] <Auctus> i guess auto unlock keyring with no prompt at boot might be what im looking for? i dont want to ever type a password into this box
[10:12] <Auctus> cant find how to do that either
[10:14] <angel-swe> How do I open permissions necessary folders ? like an admin?
[10:15] <DiamondSword> ducasse, thanks
[10:15] <DiamondSword> ok I'll leave them there..
[10:18] <gamester> If I move my crap to an encrypted home partition (luks + dm-crypt), is it easy to install a new linux distro and point it to the home partition? I guess I'll have to edit that distro's crypttab and fstab files after install?
[10:20] <gamester> I mean I won't be able to specify the mounting during install, right?
[10:20] <gamester> So I just specify the partition for / and do the rest later
[10:20] <ducasse> gamester: depends on the distro
[10:24] <fusion-fi> H@GGG
[10:25] <Logicwax> ahh had to blacklist noveaou
[10:25] <Logicwax> or however you spell it
[10:27] <FMan> does someone have a suggestion on installing Qt? I downloaded the online installer for Linux and only then was reminded that it is also available in the repo, but running an install simulation for 'Qt-SDK' it showed that it wants to install both 4 and 5
[10:30] <ducasse> FMan: the qt-sdk package seems to only depend on qt4 packages on 16.10, which version are you on?
[10:32] <FMan> 16.04.1
[10:36] <ducasse> FMan: from what i can tell they seem to be necessary for qtcreator
[10:38] <FMan> so if I install from qt.io my system will have all of those installed anyway, but I will probably get a bit newer version?
[10:40] <ducasse> FMan: i would *not* install qt from outside the repos, for central libs like that you should use the ubuntu versions to avoid ending up with a horrible, smoking mess.
[10:41] <FMan> hm, I don't need another one of those, as boost already is one (9 of those libraries report errors)
[10:43] <ducasse> FMan: that's the kind of thing i mean. sooner or later that will blow up in your face.
[10:45] <FMan> should I uninstall and install again the boost libs? just the failing ones or all of them? this is what I see: http://z80.guru/asdf/fail.txt
[10:46] <ducasse> FMan: i would remove everything that is from outside the repos and reinstall from them.
[10:47] <FMan> I don't think I have installed yet anything from elsewhere, so I don't know how I managed that... it started with one boost lib (fs)
[10:47] <FMan> just clean install and 'dependency problems', 'inconsistent state'
[10:47] <FMan> probably dpkg is badly broken :)
[10:48] <FMan> yeah, libboost-filesystem1.58.0 started reporting "package is in a very bad inconsistent state" and I don't know why
[10:49] <FMan> somehow it failed to install properly, from the repo
[10:49] <ducasse> FMan: try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:49] <Welastevil> hi friends!
[10:50] <Welastevil> so...everytimr I try to update anything, it wont...
[10:51] <Welastevil> I mean, OS updates can not be downloaded and intslled uccesfull
[10:52] <jatt> which command are you trying
[10:53] <Welastevil> any ideas?
[10:54] <jatt> lots, if you tell us what are you doing
[10:54] <jatt> "update anything" is not specific enough
[10:55] <Welastevil> ok
[10:55] <Welastevil> from the ubunt software. Im trying to update..but it can not be done.
[10:55] <Welastevil> I just dont understand why
[10:55] <ducasse> Welastevil: 'sudo apt install -f' can fix package problems, and should show what's wrong.
[10:57] <Welastevil> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:57] <Welastevil> after try sudo apt install -f
[10:59] <pluginn00b> Hi everyone, I seem to be running into some trouble related to arm64 gcc plugin support. I've described the problem here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40573039/gcc-plugins-with-arm64-cross-compiler-cannot-open-shared-object-file ; has anyone encountered this before?
[10:59] <ducasse> Welastevil: pastebin complete output
[10:59] <Welastevil> ahhh
[10:59] <Welastevil> I ned to autoremove some programs
[11:01] <Welastevil> look
[11:01] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/f1rKQMAc
[11:02] <ducasse> Welastevil: pastebin output of 'systemctl status i8kmon.service -l'
[11:03] <Welastevil> how do I get this output?
[11:03] <ducasse> Welastevil: 'systemctl status i8kmon.service -l | nc termbin.com 9999'
[11:05] <Welastevil> here
[11:05] <Welastevil> http://termbin.com/rtiw
[11:07] <Welastevil> http://termbin.com/rtiw
[11:09] <shawn196|R40> is there a way to host a wifi infrastructure mode network from a secondary wifi card, while remaining connected with the first wifi connection?
[11:09] <ducasse> Welastevil: hmmm. the dell temp monitor system is not working, i have no experience with that. you could just remove the package, i guess.
[11:09] <Welastevil> ok
[11:10] <Welastevil> how do I remove that?
[11:10] <shawn196|R40> both wifi hardware devices are of different makes and models
[11:10] <DarkStar1> Hi all. I want to allow a system user to be able to execute the setcap comman so I added the following line to my /etc/sudoers file: selt ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /sbin/setcap
[11:10] <Welastevil> I mean, ho to delete that pakg?
[11:11] <ducasse> Welastevil: 'sudo apt purge i8kutils'
[11:11] <DarkStar1> is that correct?
[11:11] <DarkStar1> I'm on ubuntu 16.04
[11:12] <Welastevil> Ok! Thank you so much man!
[11:13] <ducasse> Welastevil: no problem. try 'sudo apt install -f' now to make sure everything is ok, it should finish without errors.
[11:14] <Welastevil> just did that! and its ok!
[11:14] <Welastevil> cool!
[11:14] <ducasse> Welastevil: good :)
[11:16] <knot> In bottom halves which is more common tasklet or softirq and why?
[11:19] <ducasse> DarkStar1: i have 'username ALL = NOPASSWD: whatever', and that works.
[11:19] <DarkStar1> I only want the selt user to be able to execute the setcap command
[11:19] <DarkStar1> just wanted to confirm that the line work
[11:20] <DarkStar1> works*
[11:20] <DarkStar1> or is correct rather
[11:20] <RobG> Helloo everyone
[11:21] <ducasse> DarkStar1: it should, i think ALL=(ALL) equals ALL.
[11:21] <RobG> What are the best rooms for help with Ubuntu?
[11:22] <ducasse> RobG: this, probably, depending on exactly what you need help with.
[11:23] <RobG> Oh ok thanks I was just testing this chat to see how it works I get more of the helps from the forums
[11:23] <shawn196|R40> :/
[11:24] <KLiPPY> good day, homies
[11:24] <shawn196|R40> may someone help me with this problem?
[11:25] <RobG> What seems to be the problem
[11:26] <RobG> shawn: what seems to be the problem
[11:26] <shawn196|R40> I need help with the wifi thing I asked about a little big ago
[11:26] <shawn196|R40> *bit
[11:27] <RobG> Have you joined the Ubuntu forums yet
[11:27] <shawn196|R40> nope
[11:27] <RobG> It's another great place to get help
[11:27] <RobG> what's going on with your WiFi
[11:28]  * shawn196|R40 has doubts with scrollback
[11:29] <shawn196|R40> is it possible to host an infrastructure mode wifi hotspot from a secondary wifi device, while still being connected to a wifi connection from the first wifi device?
[11:30] <ducasse> shawn196|R40: should be entirely possible, as long as you set up ip forwarding and routing.
[11:31] <shawn196|R40> ah
[11:32] <freakyy> i wonder why my x only works when i install the package xserver-xorg-legacy
[11:33] <shawn196|R40> is there an easy way to do it?
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> shawn196|R40  'easy' may depend on how skilled you are
[11:34] <RobG> Hey Ducasse how do you make another users name appear when your answering them like you do?
[11:34] <shawn196|R40> not very
[11:34] <ducasse> RobG: start typing their name and press tab.
[11:35] <sweet12> i cant start protege5 in ubuntu 16.04 when i am trying to lounch ./run.sh  asist me?
[11:35] <RobG> duasse
[11:35] <RobG> not sure im doing it right
[11:36] <shawn196|R40> I'm not even sure where to start
[11:36] <shawn196|R40> I gotta get some sleep to get up in a couple hours
[11:38] <RobG> ducasse, test
[11:38] <shawn196|R40> does anyone know of an already published program for this purpose?
[11:39] <RobG> I see when you do it ducasse it's highlighted in green like your name
[11:42] <shawn196|R40> is there a wifi management program, with the capability of doing thism, sandbox style?
[11:43] <shawn196|R40> why was ap-hotspot depreciated?
[11:44] <ducasse> RobG: color is set by your client
[11:45] <ducasse> shawn196|R40: i don't think it was maintained anymore, and network manager is intended to have that functionality now
[11:45] <shawn196|R40> I see that there is a wifi hotspot hosting capability with the new management
[11:46] <shawn196|R40> but it is strictly ethernet cable to wifi too darn restricting
[11:46] <shawn196|R40> forgot to put in a comma\
[11:47] <shawn196|R40> if I have 2 wifi capable devices, I should not have to disconnect from the first one
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:50] <freakyy> hi BluesKaj
[11:50] <BluesKaj> hi freakyy
[11:50] <freakyy> hi all. i have ubuntu budgie and usign gnome terminal ... im connected to weechat over ssh through screen. links show clickable but when i click nothing happens. i ahve to press shift for "open link" to appear. is there any way i can ... change this?
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> freakyy  try right click and open (that's how irssi deals with links)
[11:52] <freakyy> http://www.nextgamers.eu
[11:52] <freakyy> trying
[11:53] <freakyy> doesnt work only using shift
[11:54] <ducasse> freakyy: configure your terminal to open links
[11:54] <freakyy> ducasse: i dont know how to ;D ... im using gnome terminal
[11:56] <Guest84452> freakyy: right click on the link and then open link
[11:56] <freakyy> Guest84452: it only works when i press shift
[11:57] <freakyy> i want to change this so it works without shift
[11:58] <shawn196|R40> is there a way to figure out if a wifi card is capable of hosting a wifi hotspot?
[11:59] <shawn196|R40> the card I want to host a hotspot from is a Broadcom BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller
[12:03] <ducasse> shawn196|R40: it depends on both the card and the driver, i think most broadcom drivers lack that functionality
[12:03] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: whats the pci is, as reported by: lspci -knnv | grep Wireless #?
[12:04] <tomreyn> starts with 14e4
[12:06] <shawn196|R40> Subsystem: Dell Wireless 1350 WLAN PC Card [1028:0004]
[12:08] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: can i see all of: sudo lspci -knnv
[12:09] <tomreyn> !pastebin | shawn196|R40
[12:09] <shawn196|R40> http://hastebin.com/yiwilibiji
[12:10] <tomreyn> okay that's again not what i asked for, but this should help
[12:12] <tomreyn> there are two different hardware versions for this one
[12:12] <sweet12> i cant start protege5 in ubuntu 16.04 when i am trying to lounch ./run.sh  it give me an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/23470400/
[12:12] <shawn196|R40> tomreyn, not what you asked for? I gave you the command and the output you asked for
[12:14] <kgron> tes
[12:15] <drechu> hi
[12:16] <drechu> jest tu kto?
[12:16] <ducasse> sweet12: talk to whoever you got the software from
[12:16] <cfhowlett> drechu, english only here
[12:16] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: sorry for the bad tone i picked. first, you provided only the second part of the output, later, you provided the output of "lspci", and the output i had asked for earlier
[12:16] <MrSNES> Hi, I did a release upgrade on my server over ssh. When it got to upgrading Apache it asked if I wanted to override my apache.conf file, I didn't remember if I made any changes so I pressed the key to compare the old and new. However I got stuck in the compare window and tried to get it exiting the entire setup. How do I continue it?
[12:16] <shawn196|R40> I thought it might help...
[12:17] <ducasse> MrSNES: press 'q'
[12:17] <kgron> 16.04 server -> ufw kernel log is in both syslog and ufw.log but 50-default.conf does not contain an ufw entry. I dont want the ufw entries in the syslog but dont dare make an ufw redirect since its obviously already writing to ufw.log.
[12:18] <MrSNES> I knocked myself back to prompt so that won't work now.
[12:18] <shawn196|R40> tomreyn, the network connections manager doesn't even want to work with the broadcom
[12:18] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: this is actually HW rev 03. it's a co-called "softmac" device, the bc43 / bc43legacy drivers do not support AP mode at this time.
[12:19] <ducasse> MrSNES: try 'screen -r'
[12:19] <shawn196|R40> eh?\
[12:20] <shawn196|R40> where do you conclude that?
[12:20] <kgron> nevermind dont answer my question. jeez - sh.. changes to fast in ubuntu ^^
[12:20] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/b43?s[]=bcm4306%2F3 and https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211#to_be_done_for_softmac_driver
[12:20] <MrSNES> ducasse: there are no screens under my user or sudo..
[12:20] <jatt-clone> kgron: add
[12:20] <jatt-clone> & stop
[12:20] <jatt-clone> to /etc/rsyslog.d/20-ufw.conf
[12:21] <ducasse> MrSNES: then you must have managed to stop the entire upgrade.
[12:21] <jatt-clone> kgron: and restart rsyslog
[12:21] <kgron> jatt-clone, thx - i just discovered ufw got its own file now :)
[12:22] <shawn196|R40> what am I looking for in there tomreyn ?
[12:22] <gamester> I have both a 16.04 and a 16.10 USB. The 16.10 usb doesn't work, upon selecting "try Ubuntu without installing" it just presents a black screen with the monitor cycling between no signal and signal (same with OpenSuse). But 16.04 works. I'm on a very standard system so something needs to be fixed.
[12:22] <MrSNES> ducasse: ya I accidentally killed the upgrade, I'm wondering how to resume it so nothing gets screwed up.
[12:23] <kgron> jatt-clone, 20-ufw.conf already got that line. but commented out btw.
[12:24] <freakyy> is there any budgie channel
[12:24] <shawn196|R40> I just searched "14e4:4320" on that page, and it shows up as yes for bot
[12:24] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: your PCI device ID, based on http://hastebin.com/raw/yiwilibiji , is [14e4:4320] (rev 03), AKA  14e4:4324  BCM4306/3
[12:24] <shawn196|R40> *both
[12:24] <ducasse> MrSNES: you've managed to get past all the safeguards, there are no safety nets left. dist-upgrade, dpkg --configure -a, then cross your fingers.
[12:24] <shawn196|R40> white pages are painful for my eyes
[12:25] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: the 'yes' refers to whether it's supported, generally, by the b43 or b43legacy modules
[12:25] <shawn196|R40> I know that, why do you say it isnt?
[12:26] <tomreyn> i'm saying AP (access point / hostspot) mode is not supported. That's because the top of this page states "b43 and b43legacy are wireless drivers for Broadcom SoftMAC chipsets."
[12:26] <shawn196|R40> o.O
[12:27] <tomreyn> ... and https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211#to_be_done_for_softmac_driver states that: "To be done for softmac driver: ... * AP ..."
[12:27] <MrSNES> ducasse: dang it I think this is how I killed my machine last time... don't have dist-upgrade, dpkg --configure -a says database is locked..  apt-get  is also locked.
[12:27] <cfhowlett> !apt-lock | MrSNES
[12:27] <ablest1980> put sudo
[12:27] <drechu> hi
[12:27] <ablest1980> hi
[12:27] <drechu> anyone there?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> drechu, ask your ubuntu questions
[12:28] <ducasse> MrSNES: do as ubottu said, than apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:28] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: i.e. this card could be used for access point, if it was implemented in software / driver. but, according to the wiki of the b43 open source driver / kernel module, it is not implemented (in this driver).
[12:28] <shawn196|R40> I'm not finding that
[12:29] <shawn196|R40> what you posted
[12:29] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: now this information could be correct / incorrect, up to date / outdated, and there could be other drivers available for your chipset which do implement it. i have not looked into that.
[12:30] <drechu> first time here, where i can find list of all channels?
[12:30] <MrSNES> K unlocked api and now it's running sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:30] <cfhowlett> !alis | drechu
[12:30] <ablest1980> server>list of channels
[12:31] <drechu> thx
[12:31] <shawn196|R40> tomreyn, okay, what if I reversed what I wanted to do?
[12:31] <shawn196|R40> use the cardbus card for the main connection, and host frtom my ath5k wifi device?
[12:33] <ablest1980> its ffatman! da da da fatman
[12:34] <drechu> !alis | drechu
[12:34] <drechu> ubottu, dkonw how tu do it :)
[12:35] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: AR5212 seems to support AP mode according to https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/ath5k
[12:36] <tomreyn> ( i do not know the exsct pci id of the device you have there, though)
[12:37] <shawn196|R40> I just found another cardbus device I have, a Dynex Enhanced Wireless G Notebook Card
[12:38] <shawn196|R40> DX-EBNBC
[12:39] <ubuntunewbie> hi
[12:40] <shawn196|R40> tomreyn,  http://hastebin.com/buribecifo.rb
[12:40] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: do you have a question?
[12:40] <shawn196|R40> can we check this one?
[12:40] <shawn196|R40> it seems to have better broadcom support
[12:40] <shawn196|R40> and is newer
[12:41] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: check for what?
[12:41] <ubuntunewbie> ubuntu pick swap /sda5 which is a drive has 100GB of data(Backup of Important files)
[12:41] <shawn196|R40> ability for access point hosting
[12:41] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: do the other two we already looke dinto not suffice then?
[12:42] <ubuntunewbie> so its mention it will format it so i worried about my 100GB of data which ubuntu pick as swap
[12:42] <shawn196|R40> the dynex is newer than the dell card
[12:42] <ubuntunewbie> in installation
[12:42] <shawn196|R40> and the ath5k is this laptop's main wifi connection
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !swap | ubuntunewbie
[12:43] <shawn196|R40> first I want to check this newer wireless g card, to see if it can host before I go into the ath5k one
[12:43] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: BCM4318 is also a softmac chipset, so the same restrictions apply as for BCM4306 rev03
[12:43] <shawn196|R40> heres the better one http://hastebin.com/ezuzurasot
[12:43] <ubuntunewbie> cfhowlett I'm formatting c drive but it pick that 100GB drive as swap and mention it will format it ?
[12:43] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, if you take your time and carefully review before you do the partitioning, you should be safe.  note that you should manually create the partition --- AFTER you back up all you data, of course.
[12:44] <shawn196|R40> though its newer?
[12:44] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: newer is not the same as better supported.
[12:45] <shawn196|R40> oh
[12:45] <ubuntunewbie> cfhowlett i just want to install in C drive on other drive which contain backup and ubuntu picking that drive for format
[12:45] <Darkins> lista
[12:45] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, restart the install process and choose the manual options.  that way you can select what goes where
[12:45] <shawn196|R40> okay, I will change tables then, the dynex will be incoming connection, and the ath5k device will be my host
[12:47] <ubuntunewbie> that 100 GB pick as SWAP :( i first run before install and saw same name ubuntu making for swap which is same as that 100GB
[12:47] <ubuntunewbie> okay
[12:47] <ubuntunewbie> i used something else
[12:47] <shawn196|R40> but the dynex does not come up in devices
[12:47] <shawn196|R40> in the network connections
[12:47] <thekrynn_> hello, was wondering if anyone might know why an NFS server I was running decided to stop working out of the blue (service nfs-kernel-server restart returns ok, but says nfsd not running)
[12:47] <ubuntunewbie> then i tick on c drive
[12:48] <adks> Hey guys
[12:48] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, you have to ADD the swap partition and select a size.
[12:48] <ubuntunewbie> then that swap name comes which make me hesitate to continue
[12:48] <adks> What type of hosting provider would you recommend for Managed SSD VPS hosting in both the US and Asia?
[12:48] <dumle29> Hey there. I've got some issues with bluetooth on my laptop
[12:48] <freakyy> hi all. i run ubuntu 16.10 ... and i accidently installed xserver-xorg-legacy. after i removed it, X wont start anymore. when i install it it works. can anyone help me with fixing this?
[12:48] <dumle29> It's being kinda weird and loopy
[12:48] <ubuntunewbie> sorry i'm confused due to same name :(
[12:49] <dumle29> So I want to connect a bose soundlink mini to my laptop, which has worked half/half in the past, but I'm having no luck atm
[12:49] <dumle29> Now I've tried to use a pair of bose QC35 headphones fora while, but those just flatout won't work. Ok fine. But now that I'm trying the soundlink again, It's not even showing up
[12:49] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: this newer document states that AP is supported, also for softmac devices: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43/
[12:50] <tomreyn> actually, no, this is the older version
[12:50] <ubuntunewbie> swap name is /sda5 and 100GB data drive me show /sda5 too in try mode
[12:50] <shawn196|R40> do I need to reboot this laptop, in order for this pci device to show up in the available wifi devices/
[12:50] <shawn196|R40> *?
[12:50] <dumle29> In addition to that, I'm still seing the QC35 listed as a nearby broadcasting device, even though it's over a week since I tried to connect to it, and it's 50m away, turned off.
[12:50] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: not if its a cardbus deivce, no.
[12:50] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, open a terminal
[12:51] <ubuntunewbie> in installation?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[12:51] <ubuntunewbie> not gonna work :(
[12:51] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: dmesg | tail should show it getting installed (in terms of hardware and driver selected and loading)
[12:51] <ubuntunewbie> cfhowlett i'm installing Ubuntu
[12:51] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, if you have ubuntu running it will work just fine
[12:52] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: i guess i would just give it a try with the BCM's
[12:52] <shawn196|R40> how?
[12:52] <Roger_> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu16.04 on a Lenovo Thinkpad T410. When I select either share with windows or use the whole disk during the install the button to "continue" or "Install" is greyed out. Are there any known issues ?
[12:52] <ubuntunewbie> when i let me try ubuntu before install wifi works
[12:53] <ubuntunewbie> but i've to click on wifi icon and select network
[12:53] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: configure it in AP mode, using network manager or wireless-tools
[12:53] <shawn196|R40> where is network manager?
[12:53] <ubuntunewbie> cfhowlett any suggestion
[12:53] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: its the graphical frontend to managing your network connections
[12:54] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, sudo fdisk -l and report the outcome here
[12:54] <shawn196|R40> ahh
[12:54] <MrSNES> duscasse: thanks, it upgraded fine now and everything still works!
[12:54] <tomreyn> shawn196|R40: it also provides a textual interface, though, through nm-cli
[12:54] <ubuntunewbie> cfhowlett how to do that what ubuntu is not installed?
[12:54] <shawn196|R40> I assumed that, I see I will have to install it from apt-get, thats where it is
[12:54] <ubuntunewbie> when*
[12:55] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, restart ubuntu, TRY ubuntu and you will have a live desktop session.  fire the terminal and run the command
[12:55] <cfhowlett> actually
[12:55] <cfhowlett> hit <esc> to stop the install process and you get the same thing
[12:55] <shawn196|R40> wow, I tried to apt-get and its getting errors
[12:55] <shawn196|R40> there must be updates every waking week
[12:56] <ubuntunewbie> shawn196|R40 your laptop wifi light is on?
[12:56] <shawn196|R40> of course, thats how I am here
[12:57] <shawn196|R40> oh, now it installs
[12:58] <ubuntunewbie> cfhowlett okay i will try
[12:58] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, sudo fdisk -l           will list all present partitions
[12:59] <shawn196|R40> hmm, I can't seem to find network-manager in the lubuntu menus
[13:00] <ubuntunewbie> shawn196|R40 use search then
[13:00] <shawn196|R40> but it installed
[13:00] <ubuntunewbie> that is on desktop
[13:01] <ubuntunewbie> brb
[13:02] <ubuntunewbie> i will be back in from Ubuntu Test Mode
[13:03] <shawn196|R40> ubuntulog, I searched for it in run, I see a NetworkManager pop up in run, select it and hit run, and nothing
[13:04] <kk4ewt> NetworkManager is a service not a program
[13:05] <kk4ewt> now are you looking for the nm-applet it should be on the panel
[13:06] <dumle29> Is bluetooth a low priority for ubuntu? Because I'm seriously considering moving to windows now :(
[13:06] <dumle29> which makes me sad
[13:06] <dumle29> The only bluetooth device that I've had work reliably with my laptop, is the MX master mouse fro m logitech
[13:07] <dumle29> I used to be able to use a bluetooth speaker with it, but I had to re-pair it every time I wanted to connect
[13:07] <shawn196|R40> tomreyn, okay
[13:07] <dumle29> now I can't use any audio devices with my laptop
[13:07] <shawn196|R40> I will try installing the firmware to it so it can operate
[13:08] <root_> exit
[13:09] <ubuntunewbie> hi
[13:09] <ubuntunewbie> i'm back
[13:09] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, what news?
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> shawn196|R40  what was your initial problem?
[13:10] <ubuntunewbie> can you please give me the command again
[13:10] <shawn196|R40> MonkeyDust, what do you mean/
[13:10] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, do you have working wifi on that computer?
[13:11] <ubuntunewbie> i shutdown pc and insert ubuntu pendrive to run your cmd
[13:11] <ubuntunewbie> because i'm installing it on same pc which has windows 7
[13:12] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, do - you - have - network ???
[13:12] <ubuntunewbie> yeah, that is why i'm here
[13:12] <shawn196|R40> system updates, headache
[13:12] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, sudo fdisk -l
[13:12] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[13:16] <ubuntunewbie> cfhowlett http://paste.ubuntu.com/23470652/
[13:17] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, OK according to this, you have only NTFS partitions, i.e. windows.  no ubuntu EXT4 partitions are yet present.
[13:17] <ubuntunewbie> yeah
[13:19] <ubuntunewbie> i use windows key to open list of open programs
[13:19] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, so the way to do this start the installer, select ONE of those partitions, e.g. the 100G partition, and section that for ubuntu, e.g. 15 gb for /, 15 gb for /swap and the remainder for /home
[13:20] <ubuntunewbie> that 100GB is import one i can't touch it because it contain all data of backups
[13:21] <cfhowlett> choose the partition you want then
[13:21] <ubuntunewbie> i just want to install it on C drive only
[13:22] <cfhowlett> how many hard drives do you have?
[13:22] <ubuntunewbie> 1
[13:22] <cfhowlett> in other words, you will be installing ubuntu to your hard drive ...
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> ubuntunewbie  show us the output of   lsblk ... use a pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[13:22] <tomreyn> MonkeyDust: shawn196 has multiple wireless NICs, wants to setup one as AP, another as client. he did not state what the overall goal is.
[13:24] <tomreyn> ^and i guess it's irrelevant now that he left.
[13:24] <ubuntunewbie> MonkeyDust http://paste.ubuntu.com/23470691/
[13:25] <xbanjoplyr> Are there privacy settings in Ubuntu-MATE
[13:30] <ubuntunewbie> ├─sda5   8:5    0   100G  0 part /media/ubuntu-gnome/0C9A16850C9A1685 [13:31] <ubuntunewbie> brb
[13:31] <Darkins> list
[13:32] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> okay, that laptop(not this one) is currently installing b43-fwcutter from repository
[13:41] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> tomreyn, ?
[13:41] <tomreyn> Shawn|i7-Q720M ?
[13:42] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I have installed the b43 proprietary driver and firmware installer via apt-get
[13:42] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> thought when I go to Additional Drivers to activate the drivers, its not there
[13:43] <tomreyn> Shawn|i7-Q720M: i'm busy now, good luck.
[13:43] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> oh :(
[13:43] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> no sleep?
[13:44] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> oh wow, upon reboot, the dynex card comes to life
[13:44] <OnkelTem> Hi all. Is there an alternative to Skype which allows to play/stream an audio file via the call?
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> OnkelTem  ekiga maybe
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> OnkelTem  but skype is closed source and uses its own protocol
[13:48] <OnkelTem> MonkeyDust: no, I didn't mean using that crap at all
[13:48] <OnkelTem> We with my language teacher need to work out a soluition for lessons. So that she would stream files to me via the call
[13:49] <OnkelTem> Amazingly, I can't find it
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> OnkelTem  and what you find is 'crap'
[13:50] <OnkelTem> MonkeyDust: sorry what?
[13:53] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> well, I'll be, I like the network connections system that comes with lubuntu 16.04
[13:53] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> its working
[13:53] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> all I had to do was install the b43 driver
[13:56] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> what type of authentication do modern hotspots use with an unsecured channel?
[13:56] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> that you use to log into an authentication page
[13:59] <vern_> Ubuntu installer keep crashing on dell laptop?
[13:59] <vern_> Failed to install grub
[13:59] <n60247> hi can anyone help me here to find credit cards room.?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> n60247, we dont do that here.
[14:00] <n60247> so where please tell me.?
[14:00] <cfhowlett> n60247, I don't assist criminals. go away now.
[14:01] <OnkelTem> MonkeyDust: it doesn't want to work. Too much headache
[14:03] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> ack, I am not getting an address
[14:08] <Darkins> !list
[14:11] <Sircle> I want to install squid but I am worried about the almost no activity and almost no help in #squid . Do I have an alternative?
[14:21] <vern_> Ubuntu installer keep crashing on dell laptop Failed to install grub
[14:21] <vern_> any help pls
[14:22] <cfhowlett> !grub | vern_
[14:22] <vern_> no windows
[14:22] <vern_> it was linux machine
[14:22] <vern_> had 14.04
[14:22] <cfhowlett> vern_, read it anyway.  process to install is the same
[14:23] <vern_> ok thnx
[14:24] <vern_> but installer crashed
[14:24] <vern_> so now im nowhere
[14:24] <vern_> how to get thru install
[14:24] <cfhowlett> vern_, any error msg's other than "crashed"
[14:24] <Darkins> !list
[14:24] <vern_> ubuntu has experienced error, cant install grub
[14:25] <vern_> something like that
[14:26] <osuser09> hi I am reading this http://askubuntu.com/a/511019 and it landed me here https://wiki.debian.org/EFIStub Which is the best way to get newly installed kernel version ? cause in ubuntu the kernel filenames are appended with their version ie vmlinuz-3.19.0-65-generic and not vmlinuz
[14:26] <Sircle> I want to install squid but I am worried about the almost no activity and almost no help in #squid . Do I have an alternative?
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> Sircle  alternative to squid proxy, or to the squid channel
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> ?
[14:31] <Sircle> MonkeyDust: both
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> Sircle  squid is not the only proxy, simply use another
[14:34] <Sircle> MonkeyDust:  which one?
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> Sircle  plenty tutorials, here's one http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/set-proxy-server-ubuntu-linux/
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> Sircle  or this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy
[14:37] <Sircle> MonkeyDust: what about #squid?
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> Sircle  what about it? it's specifically for squid proxy
[14:39] <Sircle> dead channel
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> that happens
[14:40] <Sircle> alternatives?
[14:40] <R4d0n> hey guys, sorry to bug you with basic question but i was looking for the ubuntu repos. to update a source list
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> R4d0n  update a source list?
[14:43] <R4d0n> so i use Bebian but i wanted to add the ubuntu repost. urls to the source list. I've already spnt 30 minutes google, far too much time for a simple task lol
[14:45] <DumbravaMinunata> 'bebian' sounds so cute
[14:46] <R4d0n> ha! i knew someone would comment on my typo :) Bebian is the linux distro Bebier uses ;-)
[14:47] <DumbravaMinunata> who knows? maybe theres even a bebian distro!
[14:47] <cfhowlett> R4d0n, neither Bebier nor Debian is supported here though
[14:47] <sallu> Ubuntu Users here all ?
[14:48] <cfhowlett> sallu, yes this is the ubuntu channel
[14:48] <R4d0n> cfhowlett, i know, i'm just looking for the ubuntu repositories.
[14:48] <sallu> cfhowlett,  ok
[14:49] <cfhowlett> R4d0n, software mirrors?
[14:49] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> just updated the firmware of my cisco branded pcmcia card, with a better firmware, and it finally gets an ip addy xD
[14:50] <theCMack> morning
[14:50] <R4d0n> cfhowlett, ya. Let me search that instead,
[14:50] <cfhowlett> R4d0n, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[14:50] <theCMack> trying to figure out why my %post is getting ignored during pxe boot
[14:51] <R4d0n> thanks!!!
[14:52] <cfhowlett> happy2help! R4d0n
[14:53] <theCMack> using just a simple %post mkdir /home/<user>/foo %end and it seems like it's skipped
[14:54] <theCMack> cannot find any related errors in /var/log/syslog and the dir doesn't get created
[14:55] <ikonia> %post - as in kickstart or pressed
[14:55] <ikonia> preseed
[14:55] <theCMack> kickstart
[14:57] <ikonia> theCMack: change the mkdir to something else, and put an echo line in so you can see it on screen
[14:57] <ikonia> you need to know if it's getting ignored or if it's not happening
[14:57] <ikonia> and there should be a kickstart log
[14:57] <theCMack> I tried to use the %post --log=/<somedir>/<somefile> and got an error about using it
[14:57] <theCMack> let me try the echo statement
[14:57] <ikonia> I don't think thats supported at all
[14:59] <DumbravaMinunata> ikonia, hi!
[14:59] <ikonia> yes ?
[15:00] <Welastevil> hi! what is the substitute for ctl-c ctrl-v in Ubuntu?
[15:00] <DumbravaMinunata> i saluted you
[15:00] <ikonia> DumbravaMinunata: don't need to do that
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> Welastevil  try shift-Ins
[15:00] <DumbravaMinunata> oh, i feel good now that youre here
[15:00] <Welastevil> shift what?
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> Welastevil  shift-Insert
[15:01] <Welastevil> ok
[15:01] <Welastevil> this is for ctrl-v right?
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> yes
[15:02] <Welastevil> ok!
[15:02] <Welastevil> great! it is very usefull!
[15:04] <Apachez> are there any official backport of latest libreoffice but for ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[15:08] <theCMack> ikonia: no echos :/
[15:08] <ikonia> theCMack: looks like it's ignoring %post then, I'd look at your kickstart file see if you have something that's making it not parse the %post section
[15:08] <ikonia> eg: %end to earlier from another block
[15:09] <theCMack> looking
[15:10] <_omega_> anyone with Chromium having issues with Amazon displaying incorrectly
[15:10] <_omega_> all of a sudden, with no changes on your end
[15:11] <_omega_> worked fine last night. did not update anything
[15:11] <_omega_> amazon displays fine on my other pcs with firefox
[15:12] <Nobody93> Does anyone know whether Kubuntu uses more resources than any other DE and if so... by how much?
[15:12] <Nobody93> Have been fan of Unity but I just fell in love with Plasma 5
[15:13] <Nobody93> and Kubutnu 16.04 seems pretty stable
[15:13] <RunningCode> i never liked kde
[15:13] <_omega_> Nobody93: in my experience any 'K' desktop is a bit heavier than their counterparts with other DEs
[15:13] <compdoc> Nobody93, doubt it uses more. why not boot the DVD and see?
[15:13] <RunningCode> i dont like the way kde looks
[15:13] <_omega_> it's all about personal taste
[15:13] <Nobody93> hmm. I see. It makes though (too many animations/fancy stuff)
[15:13] <RunningCode> im a gnome guy
[15:13] <_omega_> yes lots of fancy
[15:14] <Nobody93> but I will definitely install it on my home computer haha. Never imagined that a linux distribution can be so beautiful (in terms of effects, design etc.)
[15:14] <_omega_> my personal tastes have been: gnome2 (now Mate), and now I do fluxbox on a highly customized Ubuntu
[15:14] <RunningCode> im a cli guy that likes gnome and unity
[15:14] <Nobody93> I see. I will continue to read a lil bit more then :)
[15:15] <ablest1980> i use unity
[15:15] <_omega_> a cli guy using unity??? bah
[15:15] <_omega_> ;-)
[15:15] <RunningCode> ;)
[15:16] <RunningCode> flood me, ubuntu devs, with convergence. gimme unity 8!
[15:17] <freakyy> Hi all my xserver doesn't start log here Http://paste.ubuntu.com/23471163/
[15:17] <freakyy> Can I help me?
[15:18] <freakyy> Someone
[15:18] <RunningCode> wait
[15:18] <freakyy> RunningCode: oki
[15:18] <RunningCode> here you dont get answers instantly
[15:19] <freakyy> Yes I'll wait r I going to help me?
[15:19] <RunningCode> i cant help you, but there are people here who can
[15:20] <RunningCode> if you dont get help, you could try later
[15:20] <ablest1980> xorg-server 2:1.18.4-1ubuntu6.1 (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support)
[15:21] <ablest1980> Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
[15:21] <ikonia> ablest1980: why are you pasting that ?
[15:21] <ablest1980> for freaky
[15:21] <ikonia> it's not really helpful though
[15:21] <ikonia> it means nothing
[15:21] <ablest1980> got that from freakyy paste
[15:21] <ablest1980> k
[15:22] <Neui> How can i get LightDM to also start on vt8 and vt9?
[15:22] <ikonia> ablest1980: what is his problem and how does what you've pasted fix it
[15:22] <ablest1980> sry
[15:22] <freakyy> What is the default driver installed with ubuntu nvidia one?
[15:23] <RunningCode> ikonia, at least he tried smth
[15:23] <ikonia> RunningCode: saying random words is not trying
[15:24] <RunningCode> ikonia, i think you're right
[15:25] <ablest1980> freakyy https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ this driver
[15:25] <ablest1980> nouveau
[15:27] <freakyy> And what's the default binary driver
[15:27] <freakyy> I need the package name
[15:28] <ablest1980> freakyy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[15:31] <freakyy> Thank you all
[15:32] <ablest1980> np
[15:32] <ablest1980> :)
[15:32] <aaaaaaaaaa> ______________
[15:33] <freakyy> I downloaded the legacy driver but it won't start x I don't know what to do
[15:33] <theCMack> ikonia: welp I through a random word in the echo statement and figured out I was looking in the wrong log this whole time grrr
[15:34] <theCMack> so, now maybe I can figure out the errors.. (oh and the echo statements are working)
[15:34] <theCMack> thx
[15:34] <aaaaaaaaaa> i7qGFDJFBGkyrre
[15:35] <_omega_> anyone with chromium/ubuntu able to confirm amazon displays correctly?
[15:35] <freakyy> Is there an x repair command
[15:36] <_omega_> freakyy: if you downloaded a driver and then x wont start, I'd start with removing the driver you downloaded, which will force your system to fall back to the other driver
[15:36] <ablest1980> freaky try system settings>software and update>additional drivers (tab)
[15:37] <_omega_> uninstall* to be more clear
[15:37] <freakyy> I did that now reszarting
[15:37] <ablest1980> k
[15:37] <user157893> hello. my ubuntu takes 1 min to boot into login, and another 1 min to get desktop ready. i think it could be better but i dont see any obvious bottleneck in my systemd-analyze plot http://imgh.us/boot_19.svg
[15:40] <freakyy> Ok it started without driver now installing the binary nvidia driver from ubuntu additional drivers thing
[15:41] <theCMack> ah ha
[15:42] <freakyy> Omg it works tha k you so much
[15:42] <theCMack> looks like the user gets created after %post and all of my %post relies on the user
[15:44] <ablest1980> working freakyy ?
[15:44] <freakyy> ablest1980: yes its working
[15:44] <ablest1980> ok cool
[15:45] <freakyy> Yea :)
[15:45] <ablest1980> :)
[15:46] <bresdel> Hi
[15:47] <bresdel> i need to make a app like for whatsapp deskop for mty website https://bresdel.com
[15:48] <Neui> How can i get LightDM to also start/display on vt8 and vt9?
[15:55] <Mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how to transfer photos from iphone (iOS 10.1.1) to Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[15:56] <Apachez> mail them?
[15:56] <Apachez> or upload to dropbox or google drive or whatever
[15:56] <Apachez> or just plugin the device as usb to your box
[15:57] <ablest1980> http://askubuntu.com/questions/704669/how-to-move-files-between-ubuntu-and-iphone
[15:59] <Mojtaba> Apachez: Thanks
[15:59] <Mojtaba> Apachez: I don't want to upload the photo to 3rd party!
[15:59] <Mojtaba> Apachez: I am connecting the USB cable for sure, but it does not show anything!
[15:59] <Mojtaba> Any idea?
[16:00] <younder> lsusb
[16:00] <Mojtaba> Apachez: The link says iOS 9, mine is iOS 10
[16:00] <Mojtaba> Bus 002 Device 082: ID 05ac:12a8 Apple, Inc. iPhone5/5C/5S/6
[16:00] <Mojtaba> Apachez:
[16:01] <younder> Mojtaba, Have yo checked under /media ?
[16:01] <ablest1980> is the phone listed under device
[16:02] <ablest1980> devices
[16:02] <Mojtaba> younder: Yes, nothing in there.
[16:02] <Mojtaba> ablest1980: yes
[16:02] <ablest1980> no folder?
[16:02] <Mojtaba> ablest1980: nope
[16:06] <ablest1980> Mojtaba,
[16:07] <ablest1980> watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rxy9jH9L2M
[16:07] <Mojtaba> ablest1980: sure
[16:07] <cece> ff
[16:08] <Mojtaba> ablest1980: Nice
[16:08] <ablest1980> good?
[16:08] <Mojtaba> ablest1980: you are done.
[16:08] <Mojtaba> Any one else, can help?
[16:08] <ablest1980> ?
[16:08] <Mojtaba> ablest1980: Do you know what is the problem?
[16:09] <ablest1980> yes
[16:09] <Mojtaba> ablest1980: Could you please let me know?
[16:09] <gamester> Hi. Is everything a lot snappier in 16.10 vs 16.04 somehow. Or it is just the fresh install I did (on the same disk, different partition)?
[16:10] <Mojtaba> ablest1980: The problem is that, it does not show anything when I connect the phone.
[16:10] <ikonia> ablest1980: can you please stop giving random advice - if you don't know the answer, don't speak
[16:10] <ikonia> Mojtaba: the bad news is apple support on linux is poor
[16:11] <ablest1980> k sry
[16:11] <ikonia> Mojtaba: people try to engineer soutions that work badly for $X ammount of time, the next hardware/ios release normally break it
[16:11] <Mojtaba> ikonia: Yes, I know. :(
[16:13] <gamester> wth, everything is so much faster on 16.10 for me. Loading programs was always slow on 16.04 for some reason.
[16:13] <ikonia> gamester: what do you want us to say to you ?
[16:13] <gamester> ikonia: Good question. Let me ponder for a while.
[16:14] <RunningCode> my de is loaded in seconds
[16:15] <RunningCode> any tips on reducing the time?
[16:15] <ikonia> seconds is quick
[16:15] <RunningCode> ikonia, i want even faster
[16:15] <ikonia> then look at what's not needed in the loading of the desktop
[16:15] <ikonia> but to be honest, I think you're chasing a pointless goal
[16:16] <RunningCode> how fast does your de is loaded?
[16:16] <ikonia> what does that matter
[16:16] <ikonia> what matters is what you get and what you want/expect
[16:16] <RunningCode> i wanna know where youre coming from
[16:16] <ikonia> ?
[16:17] <RunningCode> you said 'seconds is quick'
[16:17] <ikonia> yes, it is
[16:17] <ablest1980> faster then windows
[16:17] <RunningCode> how did you establish it?
[16:17] <ikonia> by not wanting it to load quiker
[16:17] <ikonia> quicker
[16:18] <ikonia> ablest1980: windows has nothing to do with it - again, please, no pointless comment
[16:18] <Mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how to transfer photos from iphone (iOS 10.1.1) to Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[16:19] <ikonia> Mojtaba: you're not going to get that
[16:19] <ikonia> Mojtaba: you'll be better using an intermediary service eg: drop box, mail them to yourself etc
[16:19] <RunningCode> because of apple?
[16:19] <Mojtaba> ikonia: Thanks for the advice.
[16:19] <ikonia> because linux is not a supported platform for ios/apple devices
[16:24] <EriC^^> Mojtaba: does dmesg show anything?
[16:25] <Mojtaba> EriC^^: I can show it using lsusb command.
[16:25] <ikonia> what good is that ?
[16:25] <EriC^^> what about dmesg?
[16:26] <maxalt__> hey could someone help me with a tool on linux i can use to get for a USB to get on Windows Again
[16:26] <Mishari> Salam 3lekom.
[16:27] <EriC^^> maxalt__: what's the problem exactly?
[16:28] <maxalt__> @Eric i want to get back on windows but i dont have a Tool or anything to get windows 8 on my USB to get back on Windows
[16:29] <TakeShelter> why not windows 10?
[16:29] <EriC^^> maxalt__: do you want to install in uefi mode?
[16:30] <maxalt__> @Eric i just want a Tool i can use on Linux to Extract the ISO to the USB and get back on Windows
[16:30] <EriC^^> maxalt__: affirmative, do you want to install in uefi mode?
[16:30] <TakeShelter> i think i get it: you install windows 8 and then upgrade to 10
[16:30] <maxalt__> @Eric i dont know what that it
[16:31] <EriC^^> maxalt__: make a fat32 partition on your usb, and extract the contents of the iso to that partition then boot it
[16:31] <EriC^^> select uefi mode in the bios
[16:34] <MaxFrames> hello
[16:35] <maxalt__> @Eric but i am on linux not windows right now
[16:35] <MaxFrames> I need to install lubuntu on an old laptop with 2 gb ram. should I pick 32 bit or 64 bit? the cpu is 64 bit
[16:35] <MaxFrames> I think 64 bit takes more ram? I need the laptop to run as smooth as possible
[16:35] <EriC^^> maxalt__: use gparted to create the fat32 partition
[16:39] <creat> If your system has only 2GB RAM, you're not likely to use it for anything much more than web browsing.
[16:39] <creat> Take 32-bit
[16:40] <creat> Almost all packages are available for both
[16:40] <creat> But the difference in memory usage isn't much.
[16:40] <creat> It's only pointers which may take 8 bytes instead of 4 bytes
[16:41] <creat> You do get access to more complex instructions, but they're not necessary for normal usage.
[16:43] <zykotick9> MaxFrames: something you might want to consider?  there is no Google Chrome for 32bit...
[16:43] <kostkon> MaxFrames: yes it uses more ram but the 32bit iso is on its way out. 64bit is more future proof and with larger selection of apps, which are 64bit-only e.g. skype, chrome and soon steam
[16:44] <creat> Steam is still 32-bit
[16:44] <kostkon> creat: only the stable
[16:44] <creat> Oh
[16:44] <MaxFrames> ok, 64 bits then
[16:44] <creat> zykotick9 makes a point though.
[16:44] <kostkon> creat: beta is 64bit-only
[16:45] <creat> Most people want Google Chrome
[16:45] <creat> I see.
[16:45] <creat> Good that they're building it in 64-bit
[16:46] <de-facto> hmm is there *any* stable graphics stack for ubuntu? i tried nvidia, its unstable, i bought a radeon card and tried radeonsi driver, its more stable but still does its crashes... Since the devs of Gnome/Unity/KDE/${DE} think its necessary to have hw accel for it, which graphics stack can provide a stable operation of those? I *really* just want it not crashing on me in the middle of doing some work, thats all i wish for...
[16:47] <creat> Isn't Intel HD Graphics enough?
[16:48] <de-facto> i dont know, havent tried intel yet, but im disappointed by  nvidia and a bit less by radeon
[16:49] <creat> Their binary blob drivers are quite inferior
[16:49] <creat> I can play Half-Life 2 at medium-low on buliltin GPU
[16:49] <creat> On 2nd gen i5
[16:49] <de-facto> if i cant trust my system not crashing on me in the middle of doing some productive work, its kinda unusable for me
[16:50] <de-facto> i dont want to play games, i just want to display a Desktop Environment
[16:50] <creat> The builtin GPU is ample
[16:51] <de-facto> does its drivers crash when not gaming?
[16:51] <creat> With 16.04.1 the odd buffer corruption (in 14.04.5) is almost gone.
[16:51] <Lope> anyone used rtgui?
[16:51] <de-facto> so there is not stable graphics stack for ubuntu then?
[16:52] <creat> Intel is good enough.
[16:52] <creat> and stable
[16:53] <de-facto> did it ever crash for you?
[16:53] <creat> Twice
[16:53] <creat> But that was a bad kernel update
[16:53] <de-facto> great...
[16:53] <de-facto> nvidia crashed for me twice a day, radeon maybe once a week
[16:53] <creat> :O
[16:55] <creat> These HW manufacturers and big companies just don't seem to be interested in Linux/BSD as anything other than server OS
[16:55] <de-facto> well i thought AMD wants to provide open source drivers as does intel, nvidia seems still to be another story though
[16:56] <de-facto> i hoped that this will lead eventually to having a stable desktop system for doing work with it
[16:56] <creat> No Linux client for Google Drive or Microsoft OneDrive or Amazon CloudDrive
[16:56] <de-facto> instead it seemt go get worse with more regressions over time
[16:56] <freakyy> the ati open source drivers dont have opengl extensions etc. thats why i cant play minecraft with shaders on my laptop ;(
[16:57] <jpmh> Im running two servers, 1 under 32 bit and the other 64 14.4LTS - the 64 bit is running in 128MB and the 32 in 256 (I KNOW - just accept history).  free and top always seem to report MOR free memory on the machine that should have WAY LESS.  Does the system grab all free memory for buffers, more effciently on the 32 bit OS - OR WHAT?
[17:00] <renn0xtk9> how can I write a comment line in a .desktop  desktop entry? (i.e not the comment= line   but a line that won't be processed, just for me to document what the stuff does  ?)
[17:01] <freakyy> all my online accounts are outdated it tells me to login to reactivate but that doesnt work ... anyone knows what that is?
[17:01] <de-facto> in the good old days with gnome 2 still being the standard desktop i cant remember having any graphics problems, not even with nvidia. it just was stable and one coudl work with a linux desktop system. nowerdays unfortunately this seems to be a whole different story
[17:02] <freakyy> i never had problems with nvidia i have problems with the open source ati driver ... well it works etc. but not for opengl
[17:02] <de-facto> even when willing to invest some money for buying hardware to have it as stable as possible it seems not to be enough :(
[17:02] <renn0xtk9> okay got it was just # but not on desktop entry line
[17:02] <carbine> Hello everyone.
[17:03] <de-facto> i have opengl on radeon drivers, i even can play games with them (though i dont need to), all i wish for is some stability to trust my system
[17:03] <de-facto> maybe i should throw all in the garbage and go ahead buying a new intel system :(
[17:04] <carbine> Is there a way to force lock before suspend? I'm running into issues on wake where sometimes my previous screen is still visible for several seconds before the lockscreen appears.
[17:10] <mahesh> what is the command to build .deb package for armhf using dpkg build
[17:14] <kantlivelong> anyone getting NET::ERR_CERTIFICATE_TRANSPARENCY_REQUIRED with chromium 34?
[17:17] <d3vcho> kantlivelong: Nope
[17:19] <kantlivelong> d3vcho: hmm it just started today for a chunk of sites
[17:19] <freakyy> why is in budgie my firefox if i create 2 tabs the one not active white forground (font) in bright blue background? .. i cant read anything like that
[17:19] <Moonraker> 16.04 wi fi keeps dropping out - why?
[17:20] <d3vcho> @Moonraker: Only happening with 16.04? What about upgrading to 16.10?
[17:21] <d3vcho> @kantlivelong: Try with Firefox
[17:21] <freakyy> ok i found out
[17:21] <Moonraker> @d3vcho: just upgraded from 14.04
[17:21] <freakyy> how can I ... remove the window-bar above the firefox window? so i just have the ... tabs at the top like with chrome?
[17:22] <d3vcho> @Moonraker: I don't know.. I've never had problems with WiFi on Ubuntu. Is your Modem alright?
[17:24] <Moonraker> @d3vcho: Wi Fi card seems OK - problem may be signal strength, but ubuntu wont re-connect without re-booting each time.
[17:26] <d3vcho> @Moonraker That's weird since I had modem problems a couple of weeks ago and Ubuntu reconnected normally
[17:27] <maxalt_> i need help with something can someone help me get back on windows i dont have a cd or anything but i have a USB is there any Tool i can use on Ubuntu and Extract a ISO to windows 8 and get back on Windows
[17:29] <freakyy> cwhat is the package for google chrome?
[17:30] <maxalt_> i need help with something can someone help me get back on
[17:30] <maxalt_>                  windows i dont have a cd or anything but i have a USB is there
[17:30] <maxalt_>                  any Tool i can use on Ubuntu and Extract a ISO to windows 8
[17:30] <maxalt_>                  and get back on Windows
[17:30] <maxalt_> fuck
[17:31] <freakyy> u can get unetbootin ... with that u can i think burn the windows 8 iso to usb stick
[17:31] <freakyy> then u can install window sfrom usb
[17:32] <BluesKaj> maxalt_, cursing isreally gonna help .and freakyy no text shorthand in here pleas
[17:32] <BluesKaj> !u | freakyy
[17:34] <fugdnscerd> having trouble with fresh install of ubuntu server 16.04   Everyting installs fine, reboot and I can see grub, along with plenty of boot output and then some time during boot up screen goes blank and monitor complains about frequency out of range.  Changed gfxmode in grub 2, changed size of output I could see but no help when time to turn over to shell.
[17:35] <fugdnscerd> c-a-d reboots server so I am guessing that boot up is completing.  Have not attempted to access via ssh yet
[17:35] <freakyy> hi all i have a question. why is the titlebar of my firefox in ubuntu ... bright and not dark like every other applications titlebar?
[17:36] <underd0g> _freakyy: try to change the settings in firefox
[17:37] <freakyy> underd0g: what settings? i tried a different theme but it doesnt change the titlebar
[17:37] <hhee1> hey! guys. ubuntu 16.10 dont play some video files. smplayer, vlc, installed - what i did wrong? what i have to install?
[17:37] <freakyy> can i switch it to gtk ...
[17:37] <freakyy> somehow?
[17:41] <creat> What video files? hhee1
[17:41] <hhee1> creat, .mp4
[17:42] <hhee1> creat, dunno exactly what video codac there are
[17:42] <creat> Do file <filename>
[17:42] <creat> It should say
[17:42] <creat> If VLC doesn't run it, most likely the file is corrupt.
[17:43] <creat> Also, run from terminal and check the error messages
[17:43] <creat> Side note: mpv is good enough for playing most media
[17:46] <freakyy> nm i switche dto defautl theme now it looks good
[17:47] <freakyy> maxalt_: did it help?
[17:52] <fugdnscerd> how do I change the resolution of the terminal, no X installed
[17:57] <ega_gardea> #newbies
[18:05] <_omega_> i've traced the amazon/ubuntu not displaying issue.
[18:05] <_omega_> amazon.com uses a symantec issued certificate for it's SSL images
[18:05] <_omega_> and there is a bug in Chrome(ium) and that certificate
[18:06] <_omega_> causes an error in Chrome and anything from the SSL image links is rejected
[18:06] <_omega_> it is the same problem as is described here: https://sslmate.com/blog/post/ct_redaction_in_chrome_53
[18:07] <_omega_> however, their fix of 'restart chrome', certainly doesn't fix anything
[18:07] <hhee1> creat, file sais: 003 What is PHP.mp4: data
[18:07] <_omega_> so right now, anyone using chrome 53 may run in to errors on websites using Symantec SSL certs
[18:08] <_omega_> wonderful stuff
[18:08] <freakyy> can anyone tell me, why the owncloud icon only is displayed when i use the appindicator applet in budgie - discord shows its icon without
[18:08] <hhee1> creat, maybe files corrupt
[18:09] <elias_a> _omega_: Thanks for info. Just ran into same problem with a page of a Finnish ISP.
[18:09] <DiamondSword> is there someone here using Adapta theme on Unity?
[18:09] <_omega_> Electrometro: if only  a fix ;-)
[18:10] <_omega_> elias_a: if only  a fix ;-)
[18:17] <creat> Yes it is corrupt
[18:17] <creat> It says something like file.mp4: ISO Media, MP4 Base Media v1 [IS0 14496-12:2003]
[18:17] <creat> for mp4 files
[18:19] <_omega_> since this is #ubuntu, I don't suppose any package maintainers of chromium-browser are here?
[18:20] <_omega_> because upstream has a fix for the SSL cert issue, and it would be great if you could update chromium accordingly
[18:21] <kk4ewt> !bugs _omega_
[18:21] <_omega_> and since I just noticed this bug today (and the bug is a timebomb) that means anyone using this version of chromium-browser is also going to notice this issue starting today
[18:21] <_omega_> !bugs
[18:22] <_omega_> i'm sure the bug has been reported on launchpad
[18:22]  * _omega_ shrugd
[18:23] <_omega_> i'll have to find a PPA I suppose in the meantime
[18:24] <brainwash> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1641380
[18:25] <brainwash> ubuntu seems to be always a bit behind with chromium updates
[18:32] <falejand> wat is irc?
[18:32] <d3vcho> this is IRC
[18:32] <kk4ewt> falejand,  and google says
[18:33] <falejand> what is I and R and C stand for?
[18:33] <hggdh> falejand: Internet Relay Chat
[18:33] <squinty> !irc | falejand
[18:33] <falejand> thank you
[18:34] <_omega_> brainwash: good find
[18:34] <_omega_> I didnt even bother looking
[18:35] <_omega_> i found upstream bug report and didn't bother looking at launchpad since you already know a fix will take ages
[18:36] <kk4ewt> _omega_,  file the bug so at least its tracked
[18:36] <falejand> anyone use Pandaboard for ubuntu?
[18:37] <merlin__> hello
[18:37] <rangelov013> Hi all, is there a member of security team?
[18:38] <merlin__> Iḿ a nooby
[18:38] <brainwash> rangelov013: try #ubuntu-security
[18:38] <rangelov013> i am on it, but there is nobody available right now for some reason
[18:39] <brainwash> it's sunday
[18:39] <rangelov013> yes, that make sense
[18:39] <brainwash> what is your actual question?
[18:39] <brainwash> maybe we can help you
[18:40] <rangelov013> sure, i am a newbie in such a communities, so it is a hard to understand some stuffs, actually i am looking to help to this team somehow with testing or something else
[18:41] <jair> hello all, anyone know what is the solution for the cinnamon issue in 16.04 -> http://paste.debian.net/895286/
[18:41] <jair> I installed some updates and all of the sudden cinnamon did not work anymore
[18:43] <brainwash> rangelov013: then you will have to wait until someone replies in the other channel
[18:44] <brainwash> rangelov013: you can use the mailing list also I think
[18:44] <mchelen2> anyone else hit by this "certificate transparency" bug in chromium 53? https://sslmate.com/blog/post/ct_redaction_in_chrome_53
[18:44] <rangelov013> @brainwash yes i am on the maillist as well, okay thank you for your help
[18:44] <mchelen2> any suggestions besides disabling it
[18:46] <Sircle>  how to enforce internet through squid and not anything else. If any thing has to be done on http/s via browser, wget, curl etc, it must go through squid or not at all. How to do that on ubuntu?
[18:46] <mchelen2> can you set squid as the system wide proxy?
[18:46] <_omega_> kk4ewt: the bug is filed
[18:46] <_omega_> it was already filed
[18:47] <_omega_> brainwash found the link to the launchpad bug too
[18:47] <Sircle> mchelen2:  thats what I am trying
[18:47] <_omega_> its well known and tracked.
[18:47] <mchelen2> Sircle: what have you tried and what was the result?
[18:47] <jair> anyone using cinnamon 3.0 in ubuntu 16.04
[18:48] <jair> I am really trying to fix this issue :(
[18:48] <jair> http://paste.debian.net/895286/
[18:49] <brainwash> jair: did you add some PPA?
[18:49] <jair> I did try
[18:49] <Sircle>  I have squid on localhost and I followed exactly this http://stackoverflow.com/a/9952390 followed by a sudo service squid restart but I am still browse the bad sites.  https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8927912 it seems if I delete http_access allow localhost, I cannot browse at all mchelen2
[18:49] <jair> because the page says it could fix it
[18:49] <jair> brainwash: should I remove PPAs?
[18:50] <brother_m> guys, is anyone using steam and experiecing random game freezes? it's so annoying and i don't know how to fix it
[18:50] <brainwash> jair: I think you should
[18:51] <brother_m> i'm running 16.10 btw
[18:52] <brainwash> jair: looks like you have to use a PPA for cinnamon 3.0
[18:52] <jair> brainwash: here is what I have -> http://paste.debian.net/895289/
[18:52] <jair> brainwash: any suggestions?
[18:54] <Sircle> mchelen2:  what now?
[18:54] <loa> hello! there some strange thing with crhomium and symantec certs, how i can update my chromium under ubuntu 16.04?
[18:54] <brainwash> jair: maybe run "sudo apt-get update" and try again to install it
[18:55] <mchelen2> Sircle: hmm not sure, might want to ask in squid or networking channels
[18:55] <mchelen2> Sircle: or try repeating that question here w/ all the details every 15 min
[18:55] <brainwash> jair: some packages from that ppa have been updated recently, so maybe your local package list is not up-to-date
[18:57] <Sircle> mchelen2:  type in path /etc/squid3. Mine is /etc/squid
[18:57] <jair> I did that and I am getting this error: http://paste.debian.net/895290/
[18:58] <jair> brainwash: I believe that the PPA I am using -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 210 Nov 14 03:36 embrosyn-ubuntu-cinnamon-xenial.list
[18:58] <jair> is not working :(
[19:00] <brainwash> jair: is it enabled?
[19:00] <jair> how do I know?
[19:00] <brainwash> what is the content of embrosyn-ubuntu-cinnamon-xenial.list?
[19:00] <jair> let me check
[19:00] <brainwash> the lines in that file should not be commented out with a #
[19:01] <jair> brainwash: looks like their are commented out
[19:01] <jair> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/embrosyn/cinnamon/ubuntu xenial main
[19:01] <jair> # deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/embrosyn/cinnamon/ubuntu xenial main
[19:01] <jair> # deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/embrosyn/cinnamon/ubuntu xenial main
[19:01] <jair> sorry
[19:01] <brainwash> that's fine. the first line is not
[19:01] <jair> I should uncomment it?
[19:02] <brainwash> not the one starting with "# deb-src "
[19:03] <Sircle> dave0x6d: Gollee  genec ok, how to enforce internet through squid and not anything else. If any thing has to be done on http/s via browser, wget, curl etc, it must go through squid or not at all. How to do that on ubuntu?
[19:03] <Sircle> sory for mentioning
[19:03] <jair> there are two with the #
[19:03] <jair> should I uncomment the first one?
[19:04] <brainwash> only if it does not contain deb-src
[19:04] <jair> OK
[19:04] <brainwash> cinnamon-screensaver 3.2.0-1~xenial0 is available from that PPA
[19:04] <brainwash> and it was built 8 hours ago
[19:05] <jair> brainwash: the first line is uncommented the orther two are commented
[19:05] <jair> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/embrosyn/cinnamon/ubuntu xenial main
[19:05] <jair> # deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/embrosyn/cinnamon/ubuntu xenial main
[19:05] <jair> # deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/embrosyn/cinnamon/ubuntu xenial main
[19:05] <brainwash> you should only have 2 lines anyway
[19:05] <brainwash> the 3rd one is a duplicate
[19:05] <jair> OK
[19:06] <brainwash> so, you could download that package manually
[19:06] <jair> so the 1. line uncomment the 2. commented?
[19:06] <jair> huh?
[19:06] <brainwash> yes
[19:08] <brainwash> jair: what does "apt-cache policy cinnamon-screensaver" return?
[19:08] <brainwash> the PPA site says that it should be version 3.2.0
[19:09] <jair> brainwash: checking
[19:10] <jair> brainwash: http://paste.debian.net/895291/
[19:11] <brainwash> install cinnamon-screensaver first
[19:12] <jair> OK
[19:12] <jair> let me try
[19:13] <kostkon> jair: you've got an older version in your cache
[19:13] <brainwash> kostkon: but that should not matter
[19:13] <brainwash> it really is a mystery
[19:14] <jair> http://paste.debian.net/895293/
[19:15] <jair> is not looking good
[19:15] <brainwash> yeah
[19:15] <brainwash> it could be a packaging issue
[19:15] <brainwash> best to contact the PPA maintainer
[19:16] <jair> well for now I will continue using gnome I guess
[19:16] <jair> :(
[19:16] <jair> I need to get some sleep
[19:16] <ioria> cinnamon-screensaver  it's in the xenial repo, why are you installing from ppa ?
[19:17] <jair> I have just remove everything I added the PPA to solve the issue
[19:17] <jair> as google says
[19:17] <brainwash> we are trying to cinnamon 3.0
[19:17] <jair> but looks like I don't even need that PPA?
[19:17] <ioria> oh
[19:17] <jair> if 3.0 is not working how can I get back to the older version?
[19:17] <brainwash> if you are fine with cinnamon 2.8, then you don't need the PPA
[19:17] <jair> yes
[19:18] <jair> how can I do that I need to remove that PPA correct?
[19:18] <kostkon> !ppapurge
[19:18] <brainwash> :D
[19:18] <jair> awesome
[19:18] <jair> Thank you
[19:20] <markfletcher> Hi, Im running ubuntu 16.10 on a Dell Latitude E7240 laptop. I was wondering if anyone could give me recommendations on packages for maximizing battery life?
[19:23] <ioria> markfletcher, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/improve-battery-life-linux
[19:24] <markfletcher> ioria, thanks I'll give that a read
[19:24] <ioria> markfletcher,  ok
[19:35] <casey37> hey. after upgrading the kernel, has anyone else had issues with the keyboard in the disk decryption screen on 16.04?
[19:38] <ioria> casey37, there is a bug about it, see if it's your case : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1238194
[19:39] <casey37> ok, thanks
[19:41] <ryan-c> anyone here use an AMD RX 4xx card with multiple monitors under ubuntu?
[19:42] <ryan-c> I'm wanting to know if it works well.
[19:47] <_omega_> sourceforge seems to be another site affected by the chrome53 Symantec cert bug
[19:53] <noirchrome> hello ppl!
[19:54] <noirchrome> how can i slim down default unity ubuntu 16.04, to make it faster ( since i have an old laptop )
[19:54] <bekks> noirchrome: which desktop environment are you using?
[19:56] <cripcate> Hey guys, is there a fast way in terminal to cd to a heavily nested directory? like i want to navigate somewhere 6 subfolders deep but not type "cd /dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/dir5/dir6". (My terminals start at ~, is there a way to start them somewhere else?)
[19:57] <noirchrome> bekks: default, unity
[19:57] <bekks> noirchrome: you could use a more lightweight desktop environment, like LXDE.
[19:57] <noirchrome> bekks: using compizconfig but i dont know what else to pare down
[19:59] <_omega_> if the laptop is truly old, I second what bekks said
[19:59] <bekks> noirchrome: No. Use anotjer desktop environment. instead.
[19:59] <noirchrome> thanks, i wanted to switch to i3
[19:59] <noirchrome> or something like that, with "nothing" haha
[20:01] <kostkon> noirchrome: what are the PC specs just wondering
[20:03] <noirchrome> kostkon: HP 550
[20:03] <bekks> noirchrome: whoch CPU exactly, how much RAM?
[20:03] <bekks> *which
[20:04] <kostkon> noirchrome: that is old yeah
[20:04] <noirchrome> Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU T5270 @ 1.40GHz , gfx: Intel® 965GME/GLE , 4 gb ram
[20:05] <noirchrome> Well, before some updates, it was smooth. Unity is smooth too, chromium is now sluggish on more than 4 tabs and youtube HD
[20:05] <kenrin> 1gb per tab ? ;P
[20:06] <MaxFrames> hello
[20:06] <MaxFrames> I've tried to install lubuntu 16.10 on a core 2 duo 2 gb ram laptop
[20:06] <MaxFrames> horrible results
[20:06] <MaxFrames> the boot is slow as hell, and all the time a black screen (so one wonders if it's doing anything at all=
[20:07] <xx1xx> MaxFrames: that's basically what I'm running now, though it's actually 16.04.1
[20:07] <bekks> MaxFrames: Use another desktop environment, rather than Unity.
[20:07] <xx1xx> Lubuntu isn't bad
[20:07] <MaxFrames> unity? in lubuntu?
[20:07] <xx1xx> no unity for me
[20:08] <cripcate> Hey guys, is there a fast way in terminal to cd to a heavily nested directory? like i want to navigate somewhere 6 subfolders deep but not type "cd /dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/dir5/dir6". (My terminals start at ~, is there a way to start them somewhere else?)
[20:08] <MaxFrames> my netbook that has an atom cpu and 1 gb ram boots WAY faster that this machine.... so what can be wrong?
[20:08] <MaxFrames> both on lubuntu...
[20:08] <xx1xx> hmm
[20:09] <MaxFrames> also, I should see the boot menu... and I dont
[20:09] <xx1xx> is one an ssd?
[20:09] <MaxFrames> no
[20:09] <noirchrome> MaxFrames: i get the same error with 16.10
[20:09] <MaxFrames> what error? I don't see any errors... just an incredibly slow boot
[20:09] <ioria> cripcate, yes, you set 'cd  ~/mydir' in ~/.bashrc ... but i whouldn't doo that
[20:09] <noirchrome> MaxFrames: i had to add acpi=off to grub
[20:09] <MaxFrames> some time at about 2/3 of load time, I see a line saying that the file system on sda1 is clean
[20:09] <MaxFrames> then black screen again...
[20:10] <MaxFrames> noirchrome: and that does what?
[20:10] <noirchrome> MaxFrames: makes my laptop work at all :) it was stuck on booting 16.04.1 and 16.10
[20:11] <MaxFrames> I think I will try another distro
[20:11] <Seventeen> TIME HOSTNAME gnome-session[NUMBER]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....
[20:11] <MaxFrames> what a disappointment
[20:11] <Seventeen> TIME HOSTNAME gnome-keyring-daemon[NUMBER]: couldn't set environment variable in session: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[20:11] <Seventeen> TIME HOSTNAME lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm:session): session closed for user USER
[20:12] <Seventeen> ^^^^^^^Anyone know where to start with errors like this?
[20:14] <awsfjh> hey
[20:18] <WMBO> hi
[20:18] <WMBO> where can i see more on playing ,say sentences too,which are written in text?
[20:18] <WMBO> akin to windows software to play english sentences and google translat?
[20:18] <WMBO> anyone knows anything?
[20:20] <kenrin> You'd need a text to speech software like simon
[20:21] <BluesKaj> WMBO, just join the chat that uses your language
[20:21] <Guest32976> hey folks, i was hoping to get some help with samba. when I run system-config-samba i get an error ending with "You do not have permission to execute /usr/bin/pdbedit."
[20:22] <merkapto> hi
[20:24] <axmatt> !axmatt