[00:00] <qwefytuoityty> boot-repair-disk can install grub2 on sda not sdb
[00:01] <deans> jeremyb: Why should partition 3 be left alone.  It is the only one big enough to contain the files I had on the Windows machine?
[00:02] <mrelcee> hopefully you didn't have bitlocker on it..
[00:03] <deans> mrelcee: how do I know if bitlocker was on it?  I never installed bitlocker -- is that good enough to know?
[00:03] <mrelcee> anyway.     deans:    sudo ntfs-3g -o force,rw /dev/sdb3 /media/windows
[00:03] <mrelcee> where sdb == your device
[00:04] <mrelcee> I don't know how to tell.  but if you did you wo't get any data..
[00:05] <deans> mrelcee: trying--- (with ro instead of rw) be right back
[00:06] <qwefytuoityty> https://askubuntu.com/questions/266429/error-file-grub-i386-pc-normal-mod-not-found Not quite clear and it is not likely not a solution.
[00:11] <shevchuk> Hi! What does 'RC' mean in `efibootmgr -v` output? Like: `Boot0000* Ubuntu  HD(2,GPT,xxx-xxx-xxx,0xX,0xX)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi)RC` (see the end of string)
[00:12] <qwefytuoityty> usb flash start with linux as EFI
[00:12] <shevchuk> Asking because initially there was an RC in `efibootmgr -v` output. But when I deleted boot item and created it manually with `efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sda -p 2 -w -L "Ubuntu" -l "\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi"`, created item does not have 'RC' at the end of it
[00:13] <qwefytuoityty> Xu
[00:14] <deans> mrelcee: I have to reboot.  be right back (thank so much for helping me by the way)
[00:14] <mrelcee> welcome hope it works
[00:16] <shevchuk> qwefytuoityty, was you answering to me? I am indeed in a USB live system now, but 'RC' is there not just for USB entry, but for my regular Ubuntu, and some other entries, too. On my other system I dont see this 'RC' in efibootmgr output, so I got curious what it is
[00:17] <jeremyb> shevchuk: any answers from efibootmgr --help  or man efibootmgr
[00:18] <qwefytuoityty> A common question for those who know how to install grub2
[00:24] <deans> mrelcee: When I issue the mount command with any start offset listed for an ntfs partition it works.  When I use the offset for partition 3 it doesn't work even with the force option stating the data isn't NTFS.  I am going to investigate bitlocker-- because I don't know what else to do.
[00:24] <deans> My exact mount command was:  sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o loop,ro,force,offset=986794950656 dell-inspiron.190222.sda.img winmp
[00:25] <mrelcee> do you have access to the windows box?
[00:25] <deans> where offset of course changes based on partition
[00:26] <shevchuk> jeremyb, nope, I've looked it through, but no mentions neither in help, nor in man
[00:26] <deans> mrelcee: I do ... but it has a new hard drive in it.  I can take that out, purchase another 1TB hard drive and place the old image back onto it.
[00:26] <shevchuk> will probably look source through
[00:26] <deans> mrelcee: The Windows box was upgraded to Ubuntu on an SSD.
[00:27] <deans> .... Then I discovered I had a problem when I went to retrieve the data from the disk image.
[00:28] <deans> I didn't expect retrieving the data from a disk image to be a problem.  I never considered that it could be encrypted without my knowledge.
[00:30] <tomreyn> shevchuk: it'll be what efibootmgr refers to as "binary args".
[00:35] <qwefytuoityty> sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt next grub-install /dev/sdb ? i not in linux
[00:35] <qwefytuoityty> sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt next grub-install /dev/sdb ? i not in linux
[00:35] <qwefytuoityty> not sda
[00:35] <deans> mrelcee: after some investigation the problem IS BITLOCKER.  I am not sure if I have Dell or Microsoft to thank but that is the problem... I will have to get the system running again somehow and decrypt it then make the image again.  Thanks again for your help.
[00:36] <mrelcee> yep dd it back to another drive..   glad you got it sorted
[00:37] <mrelcee> you can use any drive same size or larger...
[00:37] <deans> mrelcee: I am just glad it was a fixable issue (hope I am not speaking too soon).  I was afraid for a second I had lost the data.
[00:38] <mrelcee> wonder if you could dd the partition to a IMG file and mount that in something like kvm
[00:38] <deans> mrelcee: do you have an issue you are here because you need help with?
[00:39] <mrelcee> nah I'm good. just hang here these days, anticipating i might have problems with an ubuntu laptop but it just worked
[00:40] <deans> mrelcee: does bitlocker need some data not stored in the image?  if so KVM wouldn't work
[00:40] <deans>  mrelcee: for instance does bitlocker require some key stored in bios data area?
[00:40] <mrelcee> I'm not sure.
[00:41] <deans>  mrelcee: I'll figure it out.  I know "the path" from here... but again thanks again.  I didn't even know bitlocker was a possible problem for me.
[00:43] <mrelcee> good luck
[00:43] <mrelcee> the faq on bitlocker says it's stored on the volume
[00:45] <tomreyn> bitlocker can store keys either in the tpm or on disk. a recovery key will be needed to restore access the data if moved to a different system. but that's all very much OT here, i guess. there is ##windows.
[00:47] <boo> HellO!
[00:47] <boo> Any one here?
[00:48] <deans> tomreyn: I feel that at least 20% of my Linux "problems" can be traced directly back to Windows somehow.  Luckily I still have the hardware so even if it is in the TPM I should be in good shape.
[00:48] <Guest16338> plz respond
[00:48] <Guest16338> ok
[00:49] <Bashing-om> Guest16338: Sopport channel for ubuntu, what is your issue ?
[00:49] <drGspot> deans: it would be nice to measure which % of my linuxPPC & m68k problems i could trace back to AmigaOS 3.1 :)
[00:50] <drGspot> especially now when we build new OSHW power8 notebook in Milano now :)
[01:10] <nginxtrouble> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.23-0ubuntu11) but 2.23-0ubuntu10 is installed
[01:10] <nginxtrouble> any one can help me fix this issue?
[01:10] <nginxtrouble> apt upgrade fails
[01:13] <OerHeks> are there packages held back? run a apt full-upgrade
[01:14] <tomreyn> better not
[01:14] <tomreyn> oh its just a patch
[01:15] <tomreyn> nginxtrouble: did you "apt update"?
[01:15] <OerHeks> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/g/glibc/glibc_2.23-0ubuntu11/changelog
[01:16] <OerHeks> yes, it is a minor change
[01:17] <tomreyn> right, should be fine then.
[01:23] <qwefytuoityty> https:/paste.ubuntu.com/p/S6mCfqRyHN/ https://ibb.co/n0JWtdW must be made to install GRUB easily what to do?
[01:25] <qwefytuoityty> sdb5 /boot, sdb6 xu /
[01:26] <qwefytuoityty> 18.10 64
[01:27] <qwefytuoityty> fanny grub
[01:28] <qwefytuoityty> funny grub
[01:40] <aurolac>  /topic
[01:46] <qwefytuoityty> Why with installing grub such problems? People do not use btrfs and Linux with Windows in the same HDD sdb and therefore no one has not checked this variant to install grub?
[01:47] <qwefytuoityty> and not used boot in other partition?
[02:31] <Ouyes> sorry to bother, is there any channel talking about cars, automobiles?
[02:37] <tomreyn> !alis | Ouyes
[02:39] <Ouyes> tomreyn, thanks a lot
[03:06] <RNeville> Hello Every One, I'm running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[03:07] <RNeville> trying to install VeraCrypt 1.23 - can't seem to get it installed
[03:07] <RNeville> I'm a newbie with Linux - in general and need a little help getting Veracrypt installed
[03:09] <leftyfb> RNeville: you'll have to contact Veracrypt for support. That's not a supported package in Ubuntu
[03:12] <RNeville> thx leftyfb
[03:14] <core71>  libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.23-0ubuntu11) but 2.23-0ubuntu10 is installed  --> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[03:14] <core71> Anyone can help me fix this?
[03:14] <leftyfb> core71: what version of ubuntu?
[03:16] <core71> leftyfb: 16.04
[03:16] <core71> Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS
[03:17] <leftyfb> core71: what prompted this package getting installed/upgraded?
[03:17] <core71> leftyfb: Not sure - today the update/upgrade failed
[03:17] <leftyfb> core71: ok, did you try: "sudo apt update ; sudo apt install -f" ?
[03:18] <core71> leftyfb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Jb92yWJg9v/
[03:18] <core71> and that does not fix the problem
[03:19] <leftyfb> core71: pastebin the following: apt-cache policy libc6 ; apt-cache policy libc6-dev
[03:20] <core71> leftyfb: today the apt install -f went through
[03:20] <core71> let me see if it fixed anything
[03:22] <core71> leftyfb: seems resolved - perhaps someone broke the system with something that was not supposed to be installed - and then fixed the apt upgrade?
[03:33] <HickorySmokedBac> Is there any "ARM" capabilities of ubuntu for the raspberry pis ?
[03:37] <Bashing-om> HickorySmokedBac: Thoughtful: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2019/02/19/easy-iot-with-ubuntu-core-and-raspberry-pi .
[03:38] <HickorySmokedBac> Bashing-om: I was thinking about getting one for small office PC work, streaming, and printing with a brother printer
[03:38] <HickorySmokedBac> Bashing-om: but can't seem to figure out how to make this work
[03:40] <leftyfb> HickorySmokedBac: https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/
[03:41] <HickorySmokedBac> leftyfb: Would that give firefox, chrom(ium?), all that jazz to stream youtube and then ntfs-3g, and all that good stuff for a USB external, then be able to use the repos to get the brother printer 'driver" ?
[03:42] <HickorySmokedBac> Just wondering before I buy the thing if it's going to do what I want
[03:42] <leftyfb> HickorySmokedBac: that is Ubuntu Mate. Prettymuch all the same packages you'd get with regular ubuntu.
[03:43] <HickorySmokedBac> leftyfb: Would it allow for LXDE/Lubuntu ?
[03:43] <leftyfb> HickorySmokedBac: I'm not sure. I never tried
[03:45] <HickorySmokedBac> leftyfb: Hm, just trying to see if I want to dump the $100 project or not
[03:45] <leftyfb> shouldn't cost that much. A pi is $35, SD card maybe $20 and a usb charger
[03:45] <HickorySmokedBac> but then you gotta get a case..
[03:45] <HickorySmokedBac> And all that
[03:46] <leftyfb> HickorySmokedBac: regardless, you might be better off asking about the capabilities of running a pi in #raspberrypi
[03:46] <HickorySmokedBac> Most people keep saying it's just a "learning tool"
[03:46] <HickorySmokedBac> ok
[03:46] <leftyfb> As for ubuntu, the link I gave you for Ubuntu Mate on the pi is the best way to get ubuntu on the pi
[03:56] <core71> when I do a "ssh -T mymachine"  it hangs - any ideas on how to fix this?
[04:00] <leftyfb> core71: why are you doing -T?
[04:01] <core71> leftyfb: I am trying to clone a git repo remotely with my ssh credentials
[04:02] <leftyfb> core71: ok, so again, why -T?
[04:02] <leftyfb> core71: ssh user@remote -t "git clone ...."
[04:03] <core71> leftyfb: thanks - sorry - got confused with T/t
[04:03] <core71> that worked
[05:08] <Gerowen> What is the name of that menu in server 18.10 that lists various things you can set up during initial install?  Is it just a fancy version of tasksel, or is it something else?
[05:08] <Gerowen> I was just wondering if there was a way to run it from a terminal post-install for easy adding of features later, like tasksel
[05:46] <guiverc_d> Gerowen, i'm not sure what mean, but 18.10 had two installers ubiquity & subiquity (which ISO you grabbed dictates which you saw at install) - but I don't believe they are copied onto the installed system
[05:49] <Gerowen> guiverc_d: I installed Ubuntu Server for amd64 in a virtual machine for the first time a week or two ago.  During the install process for older versions of it, and Debian still, there's a process called "tasksel" that basically uses glorified meta packages.  It gives you a little list of tasks like "SSH Server - Apache Webserver" etc., you check a box, and then it sets up a basic configuration for that service for you.  There was a similar feature in the
[05:49] <Gerowen> 18.10 amd64 server install, but it looked different and had many different things listed, and I was just curious if it was something else.
[05:52] <guiverc_d> subiquity is a newer installer, i'm suspicious this is what you're asking about  (esp. if you didn't use the 'live' installer)
[05:53] <guiverc_d> (if it's something else, I have no idea sorry)
[06:03] <Linuxuser> How can I choose which updates to intall? Popos...
[06:05] <s3tix> what verison are you on
[06:07] <_Anna_> How can I close a program skipping its auto-save? The command kill doesn't do that and unplugging the computer isn't practical :/
[06:25] <thehaymaker> test
[06:26] <guiverc_d> _Anna_, why wouldn't kill do it?  if you still get asked, `kill -9` (unnicely)
[06:29] <whoareU> how to enroll key , when uefi boot
[06:32] <_Anna_> Last time I tried kill, it gave time to auto-save before it closed it. "kill -9 pid" on the other hand, did what I need.
[06:32] <guiverc_d> Linuxuser, Pop OS is not Ubuntu, nor an official flavor of Ubuntu - thus off-topic in this room.
[06:41] <seojoon0618> hello
[06:42] <seojoon0618> I want to sell my operating system
[06:42] <june0618> hello
[06:43] <june0618> I want to sell my os to ubuntu
[06:44] <guiverc_d> june0618, we support Ubuntu which is open source, https://www.ubuntu.com/licensing
[07:21] <whoareU> how to add key to security boot database
[07:24] <cim209> whoareU: you mean partition encryption?
[07:24] <EriC^^> i think he means secure boot stuff
[07:27] <whoareU> right , i need add key to security boot databsae
[07:29] <EriC^^> whoareU: mokutil might help you
[07:29] <whoareU> cim209: i sign the virtualbox driver, the key must be add the uefi security boot database, and i don't how to do it
[07:38] <sudheer> Hello. unattended-upgrade is stuck at position: Preparing to unpack .../unattended-upgrades_0.90ubuntu0.10_all.deb ...
[07:38] <sudheer>
[07:38] <sudheer> This is on Ubuntu 16.04
[07:41] <ducasse> whoareU: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot
[07:42] <catbeard> hi there, 18.04.2 no usb headset audio - hwid: 046d:c336
[07:42] <catbeard> not muted, enabled and getting audio while playing in sound preferences, but no audio in headset :(
[07:42] <catbeard> did sudo usb-reset 046d:c336
[07:42] <catbeard> installed pavucontrol/alsamixer, pulseaudio -k
[07:42] <catbeard> nothing
[07:43] <catbeard> tried different ports, all register, checked bios confirmed all ports are enabled
[07:44] <catbeard> audio:x:29:pulse - not sure if i'm supposed to be in this group
[07:45] <catbeard> there's a systemd .mount for snap-pulsemixer
[07:58] <Poppycock> hello lovely people, i'm here in hopes someone can give me a rtfm direction on my issue... my laptop running (last i recall 13.10... yes i know it's not a lts version). anyway i have rebooted it and got through grub loader and managed to load the kernel but the screen is skewed, i managed to login through the mess and try some xrandr reset options but to no avail... my screen is throwing extra
[07:58] <Poppycock> pixels along the horizontal axis resulting in skewed video. looks like a bunch of z's
[07:58] <Poppycock> any help would be so much appreciated
[08:02] <ducasse> Poppycock: 13.10? that's been eol for a long, long time, and thus unsupported. you need to upgrade to a supported version.
[08:03] <Poppycock> yeah i know
[08:03] <Poppycock> lol
[08:03] <Poppycock> kinda figured that would be what would be said
[08:03] <Poppycock> but i just wanted to check what was on my desktop and all before i wiped it all and gparted it
[08:03] <geirha> 14.04 is supported another month, so if you hurry ...
[08:04] <Poppycock> geirha if i could get in enough to update i'd go for it, maybe...
[08:04] <Poppycock> problem is it's hard to read the output of the xterm lol
[08:05] <Poppycock> i tried tilting my head but when each line flows into the next by like 20 pixels it gets hard to read
[08:05] <Poppycock> severe skew
[08:05] <Poppycock> i suppose my best option is to download a live filesystem and try to fix from there if i want to restore this install
[08:06] <Ouyes_> hey guys, I am keeping have this problem , when login into my server via ssh, the error is -bash: /dev/null: Permission denied, I follow the instructions on internet and delete /dev/null and recreate it by command mknod /dev/null c 3 2 and chown 666 /dev/null, then it is working, but the same error pop up when reboot the server, do you know why it is doing this?
[08:06] <ducasse> Poppycock: boot off a live image to go through and rescue your data?
[08:06] <geirha> what about the virtual console, like Ctrl+Alt+F1, is that broken too?
[08:06] <geirha> Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back
[08:06] <Poppycock> ducasse yeah that's what i'm thinking
[08:07] <Ouyes_> chmod, not chown
[08:07] <geirha> it should be generated automatically during boot
[08:08] <geirha> typically by being part of a special filesystem
[08:20] <Connecting_Media> Hi there!
[08:20] <Connecting_Media> In the default `~/.bashrc` in my Ubuntu installation is the line
[08:20] <Connecting_Media> PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}...'
[08:21] <Connecting_Media> And a bit further down I can see
[08:21] <Connecting_Media> PS1="\[\e]0;${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h: \w\a\]$PS1"
[08:21] <Connecting_Media> Now I do understand what the `${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}` stands for
[08:21] <Connecting_Media> But what I am wondering about is why it is added as a string in the first one and as a variable expansion in the second
[08:21] <Connecting_Media> From my (possibly limited) understanding it would make more sense to have the variables expanded late, so the second snippet should be
[08:21] <Connecting_Media> PS1='\[\e]0;${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h: \w\a\]'"$PS1"
[08:21] <Connecting_Media> Or am I missing something here?
[08:22] <Connecting_Media> If this is better suited for the forums, I'll be happy to post it there
[08:22] <elichai2> Hey, I want to run a script every time I unlock(login) my computer
[08:22] <elichai2> is that possible?
[08:23] <Poppycock> ducasse anyway thank you for the response, i appreciate the consideration =)
[08:45] <EriC^^> elichai2: maybe this helps https://askubuntu.com/questions/429716/how-to-run-a-command-or-script-at-screen-lock-unlock
[08:52] <elichai2> EriC^^: hmm but I'm not using gnome, I have KDE
[08:56] <blackflow> elichai2: that's a dbus hook, desktop agnostic really. if you're on KDE, you just need a different dbus id
[08:56] <geirha> Connecting_Media: once inside a chroot, I doubt modifying the debian_chroot variable will do anything good, so using the variable as it was at the start of the shell should suffice. That said, they should make up their mind and pick only one of the options
[09:04] <Connecting_Media> geirha, I pretty much agree, except that I think users should see the real value of the variable. But I've gone ahead and posted it on the forum: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2413395
[09:05] <nekowaiidesu> Wondering if anyone can advise on data-recovery techniques / procedures etc
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | nekowaiidesu
[09:05] <nekowaiidesu> Got a drive which filesystem is trashed, testdisk etc can't recognize. I've already used photorec to get all the data
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> nekowaiidesu: sudo photorec after, scan the whole hd and backup your data
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> ah
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> if photorec cant get it anymore, you probably lost
[09:07] <nekowaiidesu> Thanks lotuspsychje ive got the data, but as a learning experience i wanted to try dig deeper
[09:07] <nekowaiidesu> is there anything else I can do to fix the filesystem
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> nekowaiidesu: i think you need to find out whats happening with the HD itself first
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> nekowaiidesu: tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug in the HD to see the errors
[09:08] <collinsmarra> i cant install anything from my terminal, someone help
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> collinsmarra: sudo apt install yourpackagename
[09:09] <collinsmarra> it gives me errors
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> !paste | collinsmarra
[09:11] <nekowaiidesu> The drive is /dev/sdc in this case. only real error I see is " p2 size 1033262 extends beyond EOD, truncated
[09:11] <nekowaiidesu> "
[09:11] <collinsmarra> E: Malformed entry 1 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list (Component)
[09:11] <collinsmarra> E: Malformed entry 1 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list (Component)
[09:11] <collinsmarra> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[09:11] <collinsmarra> E: Malformed entry 1 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list (Component)
[09:11] <collinsmarra> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[09:11] <collinsmarra> E: Malformed entry 1 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list (Component)
[09:12] <nekowaiidesu> ^ lol
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> nekowaiidesu: try to browse around on the hd a bit, maybe more errors come?
[09:14] <nekowaiidesu> lotuspsychje, i'll give it a go. Trying to learn more about sleuthkit at the moment to see if that leads me anywhere
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> nekowaiidesu: maybe if you have backup of your data already, try to reformat it?
[09:15] <nekowaiidesu> I'm not too worried about the drive itself tbh. I was just hoping i'd be able to recover the data with the folder-structure
[09:15] <nekowaiidesu> photorec just dumps everything into "recup_dir"
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> nekowaiidesu: you can make photorec scan on filetypes, wich is pretty nice
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> nekowaiidesu: its not the dir structures you want to save, but the data inside right?
[09:16] <nekowaiidesu> Yeah. I understand photorec looks for file type headers, which is pretty nifty
[09:16] <blackflow> !pastebin | collinsmarra
[09:16] <nekowaiidesu> and yes, the data is more important than the folder structure :P as I said, im just digging deeper for the learning experience
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> nekowaiidesu: we try to focus on ubuntu issues here actually, perhaps move to -offtopic or -discuss to learn?
[09:20] <nekowaiidesu> My bad :) Will do, thanks again for the advice lotuspsychje
[09:28] <collinsmarra> https://i.imgur.com/ZQmDkvA.png
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> !sources | collinsmarra fix them here
[09:29] <legreffier> collinsmarra: can you show us :
[09:30] <guiverc> collinsmarra, it's telling you that you have made an error in line 1 of the listed file.  It's a file that doesn't exist as installed, someone has added it to the machine.  We can't see that file = but collinsmarra we don't support Linux Mint
[09:30] <EriC^^> collinsmarra: type "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:30] <legreffier> "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list "
[09:30] <collinsmarra> a moment please
[09:30] <EriC^^> please dont use images to show text for the future
[09:30] <guiverc> !Mint | collinsmarra
[09:41] <inspectorcluseau> ;;tlast
[10:11] <Meili> anyone able to help me with this?  "installed grub-efi-amd64-signed package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 127"
[10:18] <Meili> nvm, I found it. Missing dependency in grub-common. Fixed by installing mokutil. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1814187
[10:32] <GOAtia> Hi all, could someone please help installing Jack Audio Connection Toolkit, Im using Ubuntu 18.10, and am not too famillier with the terminal
[10:32] <badSophia> how can i know size of ram of laptop on ubuntu?
[10:34] <badSophia> no one is here?
[10:34] <badSophia> :(
[10:35] <badSophia> help me i m pretty girl only :(
[10:35] <cim209> badSophia: htop
[10:35] <badSophia> htop?
[10:35] <badSophia> ah
[10:35] <badSophia> sudo apt install htop?
[10:36] <badSophia> cim209:  ?
[10:36] <Meili> badSophia: yes, or just do "free -m"
[10:36] <cim209> ubuntu has a task manager already installed, don't know what it's called
[10:36] <cim209> i don't use ubuntu desktop
[10:36] <badSophia> ah free -m
[10:36] <badSophia> cim209:  then debian?
[10:36] <badSophia> ah
[10:36] <cim209> i use ubuntu server
[10:36] <Meili> or  cat /proc/meminfo
[10:36] <badSophia> task manager
[10:36] <Meili> or just "top"
[10:36] <badSophia> ah great
[10:37] <Meili> anyway, there are no girls on the internet...
[10:37] <cim209> lol
[10:37] <badSophia> total 5755 <<— can i know this size?
[10:37] <badSophia> but i m girl
[10:37] <badSophia> :(
[10:37] <cim209> that's like 6gb
[10:38] <badSophia> ah
[10:38] <badSophia> great
[10:38] <cim209> you being a girl is irrelevant
[10:38] <badSophia> i install another 4 GB from 2GB, it is correct
[10:38] <badSophia> now i have 6GB ram 8)
[10:39] <Meili> congrats!
[10:39] <badSophia> thanks Meili :)
[10:39] <GOAtia> Please guys, I need guidance, I cant seem to be able to install JACK Audio, could someone please help?
[10:41] <Meili> GOAtia: I have no experience with JACK, but I would suggest you clarified your issue. What do you need help with exactly?
[10:46] <GOAtia> thanks for the responce, I am trying to run Hydrogen drum synth, progam works fine except for the audio output, I presume it uses a midi driver, research suggested I need to install JACK audio, I used this on Ubuntu studio, but am unable to install it on my current system using sudo apt-get install jack-tools ant openjdk-6-jdk fftw3 qjackctl
[10:48] <GOAtia> Returns E: Unable to locate package openjdk-6-jdk
[10:48] <guiverc> GOAtia, you have 'universe' enabled; it's in that repo.  (ubuntu-studio has that enabled by default, it's not enabled by default in main Ubuntu)
[10:48] <Meili> GOAtia: for some specifics on what you are trying to do, you could also ask in #ubuntustudio
[10:49] <Meili> GOAtia: but follow guiverc suggetsion on the apt install issue
[10:49] <GOAtia> Thanks guys, how do I enable universe?
[10:50] <guiverc> GOAtia, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[10:51] <GOAtia> I shall try, many thanks
[10:52] <guiverc> GOAtia, the first picture on that wiki page, the 'second check-box' is what you need.
[10:53] <GOAtia> :) thanks
[11:41] <BlackDalek> What is wrong with my /etc/default/grub file? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Gbgc6bsMRY/ The computer stops at the grub menu at boot with no count down timer and will remain indefinitely until I press enter to continue. How to I make it hide the grub menu and boot normally?
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: did you shotdown computer wrong perhaps?
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: purple or black n white grub?
[11:44] <EriC^^> BlackDalek: try maybe "sudo update-grub" and make sure the PC is shut down properly
[11:45] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, I haven't noticed any problems. May I should check the log?
[11:46] <badSophia> can i recommend funny thing?
[11:46] <badSophia> for help
[11:46] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, it's a reddish brown grub menu
[11:46] <badSophia> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KF98FHxcrA  <— this is very funny lol
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> badSophia: not here please
[11:47] <badSophia> i laugh too many times
[11:47] <badSophia> :(
[11:47] <guiverc> badSophia, that belongs in #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:47] <badSophia> yeah but it is really funny
[11:47] <badSophia> ok
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: system up to date also? graphics drivers installed correctly?
[11:53] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, sudo apt-get update tells me there is nothing to upgrade
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: sudo lshw -C video, shows driver=..?
[11:55] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, please wait a moment. the machine is rebooting. I just wanted to see if doing a update-grub changes anything.... Restarting now...
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:56] <LaRose_Bleu> hi
[11:57] <LaRose_Bleu> i need help ssh-ing into an ubuntu instance on my laptop
[11:57] <LaRose_Bleu> i looked online and the tutorials / instructionals are out of date
[11:58] <LaRose_Bleu> they reference what i presume is the last verion of openssh before the current was updated and the config files changed
[11:58] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, ok.. update-grub changed nothing. Grub menu still appears. Now waiting for it to finish booting so I can list video drivers for you are requested...
[12:00] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, it lists information about the display. It doesn't mention "driver=" anywhere
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: should be at bottom
[12:00] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, sorry I am blind. It says i915
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: allright, what about your ubuntu version and kernel please?
[12:01] <guiverc> LaRose_Bleu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[12:02] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, Ubuntu 18.04.2 #48-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 29 16:28:13 UTC 2019
[12:03] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, also .. 4.15.0-45-generic
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: looks good, just compared your grub with mine, and looks the same hmmm
[12:05] <whoareU> Gtk-Message: 17:45:30.856: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged. when i run virtualbox, command line prompt
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> whoareU: any reason why you launch virtualbox from terminal?
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: you could try "quiet splash" to "" and update-grub again
[12:08] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, ok. I will try that
[12:08] <whoareU> i am used to
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> whoareU: its an error alot of GUI packages get, when launched from terminal, no big problem
[12:10] <whoareU> ok,
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> whoareU: i assume virtualbox just works after that?
[12:12] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, changes have been made to /etc/default/grub... machine is restarting now..... The grub menu persists
[12:14] <whoareU> lotuspsychje: i don't understand what you meaning , why it appear many times?
[12:14] <guiverc> whoareU, it's a warning message from 'upstack' of vbox; a vbox coder took a shortcut (or more likely wrote for a different [older] version of GTK+)
[12:15] <guiverc> whoareU, you can ignore them, only coders will understand what it's telling you (& they ignore it usually anyway)
[12:16] <whoareU> oh, i see, thanks of all
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: did you recently upgraded to 18.04 maybe?
[12:17] <u0_a100> who
[12:17] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, this is the grub menu I am seeing (the top entry is difficult to make out but says "*UBUNTU") https://imagebin.ca/v/4YEaV6qa7N5v
[12:18] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, yes and no. I did upgrade this from 16.04 to 18.04.2, but not in the usual way.
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> ah, i think i had this the same way over an upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 BlackDalek
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: what do you mean with 'not usual way'?
[12:21] <LaRose_Bleu> thanks guiverc will check it out
[12:21] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, this is a horrible Apple macmini circa 2006 with 32bit boot and 64bit OS. In order to upgrade it, I could not just boot from a 18.04 installer. I had to format it. Reinstall Mac OS Snow Leopard. Install rEFIt boot loader, only then could I boot from the 18.04 installer DVD.
[12:22] <guiverc> LaRose_Bleu, if it's Ubuntu documentation (ie. wiki.ubuntu.com, help.ubuntu.com) I'm interested in out-of-date, so it can be updated.. if it's blogs etc. (or non-Ubuntu) we can't do anything
[12:23] <guiverc> (i'm referring to what you said was out-of-date unspecified ...)
[12:23] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, I did try to upgrade using so-release-upgrade.. but that only broke the system and made it unbootable because i guess it was expecting a "normal" boot loader
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | BlackDalek
[12:24] <blackflow> shouldn't that be 18.04.2 by now?
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> im not sure blackflow
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> new iso's are .2 right
[12:25] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, but Apple were smoking something strong when they created this machine... so it broke. Anyway. It was essentially reformatted. made an Apple OS and then reformatted again and installed with the current OS.
[12:25] <whoareU> whether "Ubuntu does not sign the third party vbox* kernel modules" is true? i can't sign vbox module on my 18.04 version
[12:26] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, is it possible that it is Apple's screwy hardware causing the grub menu to appear every boot?
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: i dont think so, i presume its something from the upgrade
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> i recall having the same problem on an upgrade once
[12:27] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, hmmm... but what could be left over? something from the Mac OS causing the problem?
[12:28] <LaRose_Bleu> guiverc: its non ubuntu, havent been led to an ubuntu wiki yet, i think. what imdoing, or trying to do, is ssh into my ubuntu session on WSL, and i am having several issues
[12:29] <BlackDalek> When the mac OS was put back onto it there shouldn't have been any trace of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS or grub left on it... Would have been replaced by Apple's own boot loader etc.
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: try setting grub timeout to 1 and update-grub after
[12:29] <guiverc> :) on non-Ubuntu doco... I'm heading to bed LaRose_Bleu so can't help now sorry
[12:29] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, ok
[12:30] <LaRose_Bleu> its alrigh guiverc i'll figure it out eventually
[12:30] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, should I also put "quiet splash" back too?
[12:30] <LaRose_Bleu> or i'll give up and move on, whichever comes first
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: if you want logo boot instead of textboot sure
[12:31] <mra90> hmm I am seeking an advice, i am going to develop kernel driver on my VM ubuntu machine, now how should I set up the test env to don't brick it?
[12:31] <mra90> another VM inside or sth else?
[12:32] <BlackDalek> did "quiet splash" have an underscore between it or just a normal space?
[12:32] <BlackDalek> I can't remember
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: just a space
[12:34] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, restarting it now...
[12:36] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, the same grub menu you saw in my imagebin paste persists. It is waiting for me to press enter still.
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: you update-grub right?
[12:37] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, yes... right before I did sudo shutdown now
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> allright
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> im out of ideas then BlackDalek
[12:37] <BlackDalek> I blame apple
[12:38] <BlackDalek> other than needing to press enter at every boot, everything else is working fine (for now)
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> maybe a bleachbit system cleanup BlackDalek
[12:38] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, what does bleachbit mean?
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> i assume more its something from upgrading
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | BlackDalek
[12:40] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, is that safe to use or will it likely break something?
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: i never had issues with it, but some say its wise to read the manual first :p
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: in my case i enable all options and wipe alot of space clean
[12:46] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, I think I will leave it for now... just moments into browsing the options for bleachbit in its GUI, a "system problem detected" error popped up so I just quit the thing without letting it make any changes. I need to sleep now. BYe
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> allrighty
[12:50] <TvL2386> hey all, I've got a directory "files" which is chmod 744, don't ask me why. When some random user does "ls files" he get's a `ls: cannot access files/..: permission denied` `ls: cannot access files/file1.csv: permission denied` etcetera
[12:51] <TvL2386> `ls` prints a lot of question marks in the following output....
[12:52] <TvL2386> obviously this is because `chmod o+r` on this directory, but I don't get what's really happening
[12:53] <t0th_->  /msg NickServ identify n455uh
[12:54] <TvL2386> is this happening because `ls` needs `+r` for some of it's system calls and needs `+x` for some others?
[13:03] <stripe> hi all, cant seem to find a native version of docker (only a snap) is there a newer viable alternative or is it back to debootstrap and chroot? cheers
[13:17] <LaRose_Bleu> hi, quick question, i am trying to update from 18.04 to 18.10 but i get an error saying lxd cant be reached im offline and snapd cant be updated, which then rolls the whole upgrade back. if i uninstall snapd with aptitude (as lxd is a snapd thing, if im not wrong) will i be able to install it after upgrade? or is removing it at all a bad idea?
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> LaRose_Bleu: lxd is both on snap and apt
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> LaRose_Bleu: wich one did you install?
[13:22] <LaRose_Bleu> i think its the snapd version coz i havent installed anything on this session yet
[13:22] <LaRose_Bleu> i installed the session then tried to upgrade it immediately after
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> LaRose_Bleu: why do you want to remove whole snapd exactly?
[13:23] <LaRose_Bleu> because whenever i try to upgrade, right, it fails with a "snap is offline, upgrade will be rolled back" or something similar
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> LaRose_Bleu: and you are connected to internet?
[13:24] <LaRose_Bleu> yes lol, im on IRC on the same machine
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> right
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> LaRose_Bleu: maybe try to purge the lxd snap first and update your system after
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> sudo snap remove
[13:25] <LaRose_Bleu> thats what im asking if its fine to do or if it wont cause problems
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> LaRose_Bleu: i think you mixing up a few things here
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> LaRose_Bleu: you can safely remove snaps, but i dont think you want to remove the whole snapd system right?
[13:27] <LaRose_Bleu> my main issue is actually the snapd system itself, i think
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> LaRose_Bleu: if you purge snapd with apt, might lead to unwanted behaviour as gnome now relies on it by default
[13:27] <LaRose_Bleu> im using a headless session so gnome should be fine
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> LaRose_Bleu: thats your own choice indeed
[13:28] <dd_> Hello i need help
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> ask a question first dd_
[13:28] <dd_> Can anywhone help help ??
[13:28] <dd_> ok
[13:29] <dd_> I am triyng to setup Samba server on my ubuntu 16.04 vps
[13:29] <dd_> It is working locally
[13:29] <LaRose_Bleu> earlier i tried removing snapd with apt but it broke everything, then i had to reinstall it with aptitude so i dunno if apt can handle it
[13:29] <dd_> witch localhost
[13:29] <dd_> and with domain and external ip
[13:29] <pragmaticenigma> !enter | dd_
[13:29] <dd_> ok
[13:29] <dd_> i will
[13:32] <TomixUG> I am triyng to setup Samba server on my ubuntu 16.04 vps. It is working only locally with localhost external ip and domain. But it isn't working on my Windows 10 PC. This is my smb.conf file: # # Sample configuration file for the Samba suite for Debian GNU/Linux. # # # This is the main Samba configuration file. You should read the # smb.conf(5) manual page in order to understand the options listed # here. Samba has a huge number of co
[13:32] <TomixUG> oh...
[13:33] <LaRose_Bleu> never mind lotuspsychje i removed snapd with "sudo aptitude purge snapd" and did "aptitude full-upgrade" and it did the things
[13:33] <TomixUG> this is the file https://pastebin.com/EcKCG1RC
[13:33] <LaRose_Bleu> checked with lsb_release -a and im on cosmic now
[13:34] <TomixUG> I am triyng to setup Samba server on my ubuntu 16.04 vps. It is working only locally with localhost external ip and domain. But it isn't working on my Windows 10 PC. This is my smb.conf file: https://pastebin.com/EcKCG1RC
[13:45] <eein> hello. I am using pbis-open to bind a Ubuntu 18.04 workstation to AD so I can get the remote document folder to mount. It recently fails on Ubuntu but seems to work on Cent. The most recent big change is gdm3 but I believe Cent uses that as well. Are there any other huge changes from 16.04 -> 18.04 that might cause lsass errors? https://github.com/BeyondTrust/pbis-open/issues/122
[13:45] <eein> I can manually mount the folder but it fails to read the AD profile and mount on its own on Ubuntu 18.04
[13:45] <GrosChien> ok
[13:50] <snow_> heiper/////[drm:drm_atomic_helper_commit_cleanup_done [drm_kms_helper]] ERROR [CRTC:35:pipe B] flip_done timed out
[14:18] <Eissfeld>  /msg alis LIST ubuntu
[14:18] <qwebirc64881> join
[14:18] <qwebirc64881> Hello
[14:18] <qwebirc64881> help
[15:14] <egrain> how do i bind a ftp server in the filemanager? the ubuntu wiki said it works. no idea how to even open an ftp address in there. help please.
[15:15] <egrain> oh, by bind i mean like having it in the menu on the side, or the main thing on the left. i don't care. i just need it easily accesible.
[15:51] <AlexPortable> How can I get hibernate to restore my windows? All tutorials I can find tell me to point it to my swap partition, but ubuntu doesn't use a swap partition anymore since 18.04
[15:51] <lordcirth_> AlexPortable, 18.04 uses a swap file instead
[15:52] <AlexPortable> So how can i get hibernate to restore my windows?
[15:53] <lordcirth_> However, hibernation is, IMHO, kind of obsolete
[15:53] <OerHeks> hybernate and restore windows? explain ?
[15:53] <Meili> lordcirth_: how so?
[15:53] <AlexPortable> I press hibernate, pc turns off
[15:53] <AlexPortable> turn it on, it's like i never pressed hibernate but just shut it down
[15:54] <lordcirth_> Meili, hibernation was originally implemented because booting was far too slow. That is no longer true. Also, several DE's will save your open windows and re-launch them.
[15:55] <AlexPortable> lordcirth_: please tell those DE's to shutdown my laptop when it's empty and in standby
[15:55] <Meili> lordcirth_: regardless of original intent, being able to pause work (overnight) without having to close and open all my stuff again and actually power off a machine is still usefull
[15:55] <Meili> and I dont know home Gnome is doing, but KDE fails horribly at restoring my desktop between boots
[15:56] <Meili> *home=how
[15:56] <hggdh> I know suspend wotks, I use it continuously. Hibernation... I am not sure. There were some serious problems with hibernation of old.
[15:56] <PottyTheShitter> yo yo yo
[15:56] <PottyTheShitter> !btrfs
[15:56] <PottyTheShitter> !ops
[15:57] <Meili> Anyway, hibernation is currently broken in Ubuntu when you use secure boot
[15:57] <BrianBlaze420> lol RIP
[15:57] <AlexPortable> lol
[15:57] <AlexPortable> Meili: broken as in; the results i'm getting?
[15:58]  * genii slides hggdh a fresh chocolate chip cookie
[15:59]  * hggdh thanks genii, it was needed
[16:00] <OerHeks> i have removes 'dutch' from languages in chrome, still i get this weird dutch page, all i want is the english pages https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/index.html
[16:00]  * OerHeks is baffled
[16:00] <lordcirth_> OerHeks, this page loads in Dutch for you?
[16:01] <OerHeks> 'browser preferred language' is english, so.. what am i doing wrong here?
[16:01] <Meili> Oerheks: check your cookies
[16:02] <Meili> Anyway, feels like my terminal in Ubuntu, mixing Dutch and English...
[16:02] <OerHeks> cleared it all, i restarted the browser, no dice.. creepy internet
[16:03] <Meili> Oerheks: also happens in incognito?
[16:04] <Meili> if so, you might want to call an exorcist....
[16:04] <OerHeks> Meili, good spot, cookies
[16:05] <Meili> You're welcome
[16:06] <timbozeman> I tried to boot into 16.04 today, but it seems to be bricked. Is there any known issues with updates or something?
[16:07] <compdoc> none here
[16:10] <genii> timbozeman: Did you try selecting the previous kernel from GRUB menu?
[16:16] <timbozeman> genii, it wouldnt post initially. i unplugged all my hard drives,but the ssd ubuntu is on and grub would show up. then any kernel version id try would fail to load kernel modules. if i try recovery mode it hangs on "a start job is running for dev-disk-...some-hash.device"
[16:17] <timbozeman> i booted off a usb and was able to see that ssd's files though
[16:18] <genii> Sounds like you might have a hardware issue if it's refusing to post. Since this part happens before any software beings to load.
[16:18] <genii> beings/begins
[16:23] <mra90> in a kernel build command "ARCH=arm make imx_v6_v7_defconfig" what is the last paramter for? I mean the defconfig?
[16:23] <timbozeman> i wonder if this ssd died
[16:24] <compdoc> they do that sometimes
[16:32] <Guest21272> hello
[16:32] <OerHeks> :-)
[16:32] <Guest21272> need some help
[16:32] <Guest21272> about ubuntu mate os
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> ask a question first Guest21272
[16:33] <OerHeks> Guest21272, ask, wait and see
[16:34] <shibboleth> kernel patches today?
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> !usn | shibboleth follow the news here
[16:35] <Guest21272> i am new here...i have a toshiba satellite laptop i installed ubuntu mate ...i have nvidia gforce video card ,,,in aditional drivers it apears that i am using the right video driver
[16:35] <shibboleth> i was asking since both usn and packages.ubuntu.com is usually a day behind the repos
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> shibboleth: fixing security updates takes a while, they come out in your updates
[16:36] <shibboleth> is lotuspsychje a bot?
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> no
[16:37] <shibboleth> ok. did you read/understand my question(s) then?
[16:37] <Guest21272> watching videos youtube etc in windows in hd is not the same wAY like ubuntu
[16:37] <kinghat> how would you grep more than one thing from an output? `grep -o '"filesize":\s[0-9]*' '"fps":\s[0-9]*'`
[16:38] <OerHeks> shibboleth, did you understand the usn url? if there are patches, they would appear there
[16:38] <willksm> ask #bash kinghat
[16:38] <OerHeks> so i guess no patches today, maybe tomorrow
[16:38] <shibboleth> OerHeks, yes, one or two days later
[16:38] <BrianBlaze420> kinghat, grep 'foo*'\''bar' *.txt
[16:38] <BrianBlaze420> type deal
[16:39] <blackflow> shibboleth: USN and packages are synchronized, afaik. perhaps your mirror is out of sync?
[16:39] <shibboleth> they are def not in sync with repos
[16:39] <shibboleth> usb has gotten better
[16:39] <shibboleth> usn
[16:39] <blackflow> shibboleth: have an example?
[16:40] <shibboleth> now it's maybe six, twelve hours behind, used to be 24+
[16:40] <shibboleth> packages? still 24+
[16:40] <blackflow> shibboleth: I mean which package update is not yet in the repos, and there's USN for it
[16:40] <OerHeks> shibboleth, is there a special patch you are referring  to?
[16:41] <shibboleth> my question was: will there be a kernel update today? everyones answer: check usn/packages. my answer to that: these are usually somewhat behind
[16:41] <shibboleth> never mind, i'll ask in #hardened
[16:41] <willksm> Guest21272, I don't think anybody understands what you are asking, rephrase your question?
[16:41] <timbozeman> it seems like one of my spindles died. if i unplug it the computer posts. is it possible that its boot sector had grub witch pointed to the ssd to load?
[16:41] <shibboleth> you go back to whatever
[16:41] <OerHeks> lolz shibboleth
[16:42] <OerHeks> bye!
[16:42] <compdoc> timbozema, you think its shorted out?
[16:42] <blackflow> shibboleth: fwiw, I think its your mirror. I see the packages in the repos I use right there when I get the USN
[16:43] <timbozeman> compdoc, the spindle?
[16:43] <shibboleth> i have on 20+ occasions found not no kernel updates listed on packages but found them when actually apt update
[16:43] <hggdh> IIRC USNs are sent out after giving time for the security servers to be updated
[16:43] <shibboleth> found no even
[16:43] <ioria> timbozeman, why don't you boot a livecd and run  fsck and smartctl -a /dev/sdX and that drive ?
[16:43] <timbozeman> ill try that
[16:43] <ioria> *on
[16:43] <blackflow> shibboleth: oh wait, which USNs are you referring to? usn.ubuntu.com publications?
[16:44] <shibboleth> mhm
[16:44] <blackflow> shibboleth: for example I see now 3893-2 is missing, Bind update for 12.04, got in the mail earlier today.
[16:44] <OerHeks> usually the usn publishes *after* the patches are rolled out
[16:45] <blackflow> actually, it's published if you access it directly. not in the list front page
[16:46] <kunji> Why does gnome-software look in another disk for icons?  It is crashing for me after failing to find two icons, I don't get why it is trying to load the first one though.  (gnome-software:8085): GsPlugin-WARNING **: failed to load local icon /media/Storage/NextCloud/Work/Fiji.app/images/icon.png: Failed to open file '/media/Storage/NextCloud/Work/Fiji.app/images/icon.png': No such file or directory  (gnome-software:8085): GsPlugin-WARNING **: failed to load sto
[16:46] <kunji> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[16:47] <Jon30> hey guys, trying to "chown :www-data uploads" but getting a "Operation not permitted". uploads folder belongs to the current user... any ideas why I would be getting this error?
[16:47] <blackflow> Jon30: only root can chown
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> kunji: are you using the nextcloud snap?
[16:48] <Jon30> blackflow: gotcha! thanks
[16:48] <OerHeks> kunji, that is where nextcloud seems to be mounted? has nextcloud started?
[16:49] <Guest21272> hd videos on youtube  are not the same quality in ubuntu mate in windows 10 watching hd videos have a great quality what do i have to do...i have nvdia video card
[16:50] <kunji> lotuspsychje: No, ... at least I don't think so, but I did try the snap package for the client at one point.  'which nextcloud' is pointint me to /usr/bin/nextcloud and I don't see the nextcloud snap in /snap/
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> Guest21272: are your local video's playing nicely, lets say on vlc?
[16:50] <kunji> OerHeks: Yes, the client app is started, I do not think it is the snap version
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> kunji: df -h you can see the snap loop dirs there
[16:51] <Guest21272> have't tried vlc yet but i watch youtube often
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> Guest21272: could you try it to compare with youtube please?
[16:51] <kunji> lotuspsychje: Yep, I see them, none for nextcloud.
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> kunji: ok tnx for checking
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> kunji: wich ubuntu version are you on? up to date also?
[16:53] <kunji> lotuspsychje: I did have it in the past though, was having some problems with the regular one crashing, but the snap one wasn't working any better.  Ubuntu is 16.04.
[16:53] <OerHeks> what is this Fiji.app ?
[16:53] <binop> Hello everywhere, where is the best way to link applications that I downloaded without the package manager to run them from anywhere ? /usr/bin or somewhere else ?
[16:53] <OerHeks> binop, standard would be /opt/
[16:54] <kunji> OerHeks: It's a java program for all sorts of scientific image analysis.  I have no idea why gnome-software is looking there.
[16:55] <kunji> OerHeks: A sort of easy version with all the stuff bundled for ImageJ https://imagej.net/ImageJ
[16:56] <blackflow> binop: personally I'd go for /usr/local/bin/   it's already in the PATH
[16:57] <binop> ok thank you OerHeks and blackflow, i put it in /usr/local/bin and it works :)
[17:04] <kunji> Pretty much, I want to make sure gnome-software on my system isn't doing anything malicious... and I don't want to try reinstalling it until I verify this in case I would be removing something that warrants further investigation.
[17:05] <qwebirc89090> Hi
[17:07] <qwebirc89090> I wanted to try another linux os so i used dual boog and cleared tge disk in which Ubuntu was installed and when restarted got grv rescue mode error
[17:08] <qwebirc89090> Hey is anyone there
[17:08] <qwebirc89090> Hey hi hello
[17:13] <kunji> Hmm... I guess I see why it can't find it, Fiji.app is an empty folder (I haven't synced the contents), but I don't know why it was looking to begin with.
[17:20] <mattia9393> hi
[17:20] <rapidwave> How do I make sure the MySQL extension for PHP is active?
[17:20] <mattia9393> i've a problem with my lenovo x230
[17:20] <mattia9393> x240*
[17:20] <mattia9393> sorry
[17:21] <tomreyn> rapidwave: phpinfo()
[17:22] <mattia9393> hi, I have a problem with my thinkpad x240. I have xubuntu 18.04. I often use the integrated sim reader for data traffic with an iliad card. Since yesterday it has stopped working. I tried to insert the sim that I use on the smartphone and it works without problems, I tried to put the sim of the smarphone to the pc and the wind reads it. How can I resolve? It always remains fixed on mobile band search
[17:23] <ah2s> rapidwave: also, make sure you restart apache after you install php
[17:24] <mattia9393> ?
[17:29] <tomreyn> mattia9393: so you're saying that the sim card you had on your thinkpad x240, running ubuntu 18.04, fails to connect to the mobile network without you making any changes (it worked fine before). And that cross testing this sim card with a different one (fro your smartphone) shows that your laptop can still get online on mobile networks using a sim card, just not the one you had there before. Is this correct?
[17:30] <mattia9393> tomreyn is correct
[17:32] <tomreyn> mattia9393: then the cross testing seems to indicate that the sim card you had on the laptop is the problem.
[17:32] <tomreyn> Talk to the provider, ask them to replace it.
[17:34] <mattia9393> I can not figure out where the problem is. Because if I put the card that I use on the PC to the smartphone it works and if I put the card I use on the smartphone at the pc it works.
[17:37] <tomreyn> mattia9393: if the card you used to have on the laptop stopped working there, and another card still works there, then it does suggest this to me. you ruled out that a software change introduced this issue by testing a different sim card successfully on the laptop.
[17:37] <tomreyn> so it should be a hardware issue.
[17:39] <tomreyn> (note that it could also be a thermal issue, where the sim card stops working if ti gets too hot on the laptop, but it doesn't get this hot on the smartphone.)
[17:39] <tomreyn> anyways, we pretty much ruled out software, and that's the only thing this channel is about.
[17:40] <OerHeks> is there a lease active, when switching pc<>phone
[17:40] <OerHeks> spoof your mac perhaps? but you claim it did work before
[17:41] <AlexPortable> can someone help me getting hibernate to actually restore my windows?
[17:43] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, did you try the guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate#swsusp_Troubleshooting
[17:43] <OerHeks> there are tons of reasons why it can fail, chipset, or - settings,..
[17:44] <kunji> OerHeks: I think I tracked down why it is looking for that... at some point a .desktop file was created in ~/.local/share/applications for ImageJ, named ImageJ2.desktop and it specifies that icon location.  That's a relief.
[17:44] <AlexPortable> OerHeks: how cn i figuer out my swap partition?
[17:44] <Cheez> rapidwave: it's worth noting that the "mysql" extension in the classic sense of the term has been removed from php for a long time now
[17:45] <Cheez> there is mysqli and PDO, PDO has drivers for mysql
[17:45] <Cheez> but the mysql extension that provided the mysql_ functions was removed a long time ago
[17:46] <OerHeks> swapon -s ( show)
[17:46] <kunji> AlexPortable: You mean to adjust the size/existence of a swap space?  You can use Gparted... but make a backup first if you're going to be moving/resizing existing partitions.
[17:46] <OerHeks> kunji, good find!
[17:46] <AlexPortable> kunji: no i mean pointing grub to my swap partition for hibernate to work
[17:46] <AlexPortable> file rather
[17:47] <AlexPortable> and what keyboard layout do i need so i can type the word -won't- with the t appearing (without having to press space), while keeping it possible to write nó without having to press spacebar. sortof when ' is pressed and a vowel is typed, put it on the vowel
[17:49] <AlexPortable> if ' is pressed and the next key is a consonant, it should just show the ' and the consonant. If the ' is pressed and the next key is a vowel, it should put the ' on the vowel, for example á è û
[17:49] <AlexPortable> Iḿ using US international with dead keys (which should be the correct layout), yet I fail to get it to work
[17:50] <bryanroderyck> hi im having security issue when downloading tor
[17:51] <lordcirth_> !details | bryanroderyck
[17:52] <hggdh> AlexPortable: this is an artifact of the US-international layout. You should press space if you want the actual ' (or ", or ~, or `) to be used
[17:52] <AlexPortable> well i should for vowels, but not for consonants
[17:52] <AlexPortable> for example ' + t = nothing, until i press spacebar and then the t
[17:52] <hggdh> AlexPortable: ' plus c results in ć...
[17:53] <AlexPortable> i dont wan tthat
[17:53] <AlexPortable> i want vowels only
[17:53] <bryanroderyck> im on ubuntu 16.04 and im having a message of security before the tor bundle browser downloading end
[17:53] <AlexPortable> bryanroderyck: waht security message?
[17:53] <kunji> AlexPortable: No idea about the keyboard.  About Grub, I don't think Grub needs to know where they swap partition is.. or if it does then it is responsible for finding it.  swap is only mentioned 5 times in the manual and none seem to be in that context https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/grub.html    The community help wiki doesn't seem to say anything about that either https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[17:53] <tomreyn> bryanroderyck: and how are you downloading, and where from (copy url)?
[17:54] <bryanroderyck> a message saying the tor bundle browser cant cntinue
[17:55] <bryanroderyck> also iget the wifi paswword message all the time ...is thata virus ?
[17:57] <kunji> AlexPortable: Ah, this may help though https://superuser.com/questions/383140/linux-grub2-how-to-resume-from-hibernation  You can find the XY he refers to with 'sudo fdisk -l | grep swap'  Should be something like /dev/sdxy, x will be a letter and y will be a number.
[17:59] <OerHeks> bryanroderyck, how do you install the tor browser, what guide do you follow?
[18:00] <kunji> AlexPortable: Ah, nvm, I get what you're doing now, OerHeks had the answer.
[18:00] <bryanroderyck> i have intall the browser from the ubuntu software
[18:01] <OerHeks> oke, that is depreciated
[18:01] <OerHeks> !tor
[18:03] <kunji> Hmm, seems that those two warnings were only warnings, having removed those .desktop files so gnome-software is no longer trying to load those icons, now all it does is segfault with no other message.
[18:04] <kunji> reinstalled, same thing happens, the segfault happens just after the Editor's Picks icons load.
[18:08] <bryanroderyck> i have use the command to install but doesnt work
[18:09] <AlexPortable> any suggestions to fix the keyboard layout?
[18:09] <AlexPortable> and maybe multitouch
[18:09] <bryanroderyck> its install manually but doesnt work when irun from terminal
[18:10] <ioria> kunji, grep 'segfault' /var/log/syslog
[18:11] <kunji> ioria: Feb 25 21:01:02 kunji-Lenovo-YOGA-900-13ISK kernel: [324936.864430] pool[11225]: segfault at ffffffffffffffb8 ip 00007fd543f46b97 sp 00007fd51fdfb938 error 5 in libappstream-glib.so.8.0.6[7fd543f2a000+42000]
[18:11] <ioria> libappstream
[18:11] <kunji> ioria: Anything I can do do about, or might as well leave it be (I should upgrade to 18.04 in the next few months).
[18:12] <ioria> kunji, gnome-software --prefer-local
[18:13] <kunji> ioria: Should help, but I guess there are still some issues https://askubuntu.com/questions/1039290/ubuntu-software-crashes-upon-loading-editors-picks-icons
[18:14] <kunji> ioria: Thanks, I'll make do, I rarely open it anyway.
[18:14] <ioria> kunji, ok
[18:14] <kunji> OerHeks: Thanks for your help as well.
[18:15] <tomreyn> bryanroderyck: if you want to use the Tor Browser Bundle, download it here (only): https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en - this is not supported here, though.
[18:15] <ioria> kunji, prefer-local should prefer local file sources to AppStream
[18:15] <kunji> ioria: Makes sense
[18:15] <tomreyn> bryanroderyck: this said, there are other ways to use tor on ubuntu, but they will be less safe when it comes to protecting your privacy.
[18:16] <ioria> kunji, you can remove the apt version and try the snap one
[18:16] <kunji> ioria: Oh... I didn't realize that would have a snap, that should work
[18:16] <AlexPortable> OerHeks: your suggestion didn't yield any success, just brings up a new session like i never pressed hibernate
[18:17] <AlexPortable> `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash resume=/swapfile"`
[18:18] <ioria> kunji, wait, is older 3.27.4
[18:18] <bryanroderyck> thanks tomreyn
[18:18] <kunji> ioria: yes, 3.20.5-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[18:18] <_alx_> forgive me, I'm not sure where to ask this question. I'm using 7z to uncompress an archive and its gotten very slow. It's been at 99%, taking minutes for each file ending in .desc (started saturday). It's only using 1.7-5.9% of the CPU, and memory is also fine, what could be taking so long?
[18:19] <compdoc> _alx_, maybe your cpu does not support AES
[18:19] <kunji> _alx_: Could be I/O
[18:20] <kunji> compdoc: wouldn't that cause high cpu usage though?
[18:20] <compdoc> possibly so
[18:21] <_alx_> compdoc: even if it use to be fast? I think it does. How would I test that?
[18:21] <_alx_> kunji: interesting also, how can I test that?
[18:21] <compdoc> it worked fine? was there an update?
[18:22] <kunji> _alx_: By installing and running iotop, needs to be run with sudo.
[18:22] <_alx_> compdoc: no, the archive is fairly large (100gb) but the first 99% (200,000+ files) were very fast, and now it takes minutes each file.
[18:23] <kunji> _alx_: is that 99% by number of files or by the disk size?
[18:23] <kunji> That is, the disk space they occupy.
[18:24] <kunji> Maybe the biggest files are last?
[18:25] <_alx_> kunji: should be, but it's at over 350k+ files now. It's being done on an external hd with plenty of space =. The files should all be very small but the .desc extension I don't know what that is
[18:25] <compdoc> _alx_, open the System Monitor, then Resources tab. is it using lots of swap?
[18:25] <_alx_> compdoc: 25.7%
[18:26] <compdoc> not horrible, i guess
[18:26] <compdoc> _alx_, what cpu you have?
[18:32] <_alx_> compdoc: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/64900/intel-core-i7-3615qm-processor-6m-cache-up-to-3-30-ghz.html
[18:33] <_alx_> compdoc: I could run it on my other machine that has a 4770k
[18:33] <compdoc> Ivy Bridge, but still pretty fast
[18:34] <compdoc> it has aes
[18:34] <compdoc> how much ram? you ever read the drive's SMART info?
[18:35] <_alx_> compdoc: 16gb ram, and it says SMART is not supported on the external drive where its trying to extract everything
[18:36] <compdoc> 16G should be plenty
[18:36] <_alx_> compdoc: it's a public archive if you want to try?
[18:37] <compdoc> does it extract from the same drive its writing to?
[18:37] <_alx_> yes
[18:37] <compdoc> can you store the file internally, and extract to the external?
[18:37] <_alx_> sure, but i feel strange about stopping the process that's already running because it's been running for so long already
[18:38] <compdoc> oh, thats ok
[18:38] <_alx_> what if it just too another hour
[18:38] <compdoc> I have a fast desktop with no externakl drives, so they might not compare
[18:38] <kunji> which archive?
[18:40] <_alx_> kunji: https://archive.org/details/wiki_imslp_org_20140106
[18:40] <leonardus> if my ubuntu installation is encrypted, is there a point in doing a "secure erase" on files, or is deleting them enough?
[18:40] <kunji> _alx_: "Be aware that this XML dump is partially broken."
[18:41] <_alx_> kunji: is it possible he meant the dump would take almost 2 months to decompress?
[18:41] <lordcirth_> leonardus, depends, if the key is ever compromised, then they could be recovered. 'shred' might be safer.
[18:42] <compdoc> heh
[18:42] <leonardus> lordcirth_, but if someone stole my computer and didn't know the key, there's no way they can be recovered?
[18:42] <lordcirth_> leonardus, unless they brute force, steal, or guess your password.
[18:42] <lordcirth_> "shred -n1 -z -u" is what I usually use
[18:43] <kunji> _alx_: I don't know if it will ever decompress if it is partially broken.  The .desc files are probably description files, maybe from Avid or something like that.
[18:43] <lordcirth_> It's also technically possible, though very unlikely, that AES-256 will suddenly be broken. Also possible for there to be a bug in LUKS or the scripts aroun it (it did happen once)
[18:45] <leonardus> lordcirth_, that happened? where can I read about that? sounds interesting
[18:46] <_alx_> kunji: so you're suggesting ask for or wait for a new data dump?
[18:47] <kunji> _alx_: Oh, hmm, what he says isn't quite clear.  The XML dump is corrupted... so I guess it should extract still but some will be corrupted.  I'm not sure if he means that or if he means the zipped one is corrupted, in which case it may not unzip properly.
[18:47] <_alx_> kunji: I thought he meant the xml files were corrupted, not the dump itself
[18:48] <kunji> _alx_: Is the torrent version zipped?
[18:49] <_alx_> kunji: yes
[18:49] <lordcirth_> leonardus, trying to find it, it's hard to google
[18:50] <_alx_> kunji: I will try something else
[18:50] <_alx_> kunji compdoc thank you for your time!
[19:00] <ccm> hi! @everyone
[19:00] <ccm> #
[19:02] <ccm> Is this general?
[19:02] <ccm> Hello?
[19:02] <ccm> 😁
[19:03] <hggdh> ccm: we see you. Please just ask your question
[19:03] <ccm> Ok Thanks
[19:04] <Exterminador> stupid question: can I create network interfaces and assign a specific process to it?
[19:04] <ccm> I was thinking of setting up a slack community, I was wondering if it was "ok"
[19:04] <ccm> I want to create one, but I dont know if it is legal+ok with community members+ok with canotical+ubuntu
[19:05] <leftyfb> Exterminador: only if the application support binding/listening it's services to a particular interface/ip
[19:06] <ccm> hggdb: Do you know someone I can talk to about this?
[19:06] <hggdh> ccm: probably yes, it will be OK, as long as you do not mis-use possible trademarks/copyrights. But this is not the place to discuss it (this channel is reserved for *support* of Ubuntu)
[19:06] <ccm> WHere can I discuss it?
[19:06] <hggdh> ccm: I personally do not, anymore. Try asking on #ubuntu-discuss, or #ubuntu-offtopic. They might know, there
[19:07] <ccm> is there a community channel?
[19:07] <hggdh> ccm: ah, yes. #ubuntu-community-team, methinks
[19:07] <ccm> Thanks!!!!!
[19:10] <ccm> Hggdh: The other channels are frozen😣
[19:37] <flusheddata> Hello, has anyone been able to sign with GPG in Ubuntu 18.10's LibreOffice?
[19:40] <wolfi_> hi
[19:45] <Guest34533> Hi ya'l
[19:46] <flusheddata> Hi, ya'l
[19:47] <flusheddata> I need some help on Ubuntu 18.10/LibreOffice/GPG
[19:48] <flusheddata> For some reason I cannot sign LibreOffice documents using Open PGP Certificates
[19:48] <flusheddata> It works ok with X509 certs tho
[19:49] <flusheddata> Any Spanish speaking user here?
[19:49] <mustmodify> I have ubuntu 18.04 server on my dev machine. Through my own genius, somehow I uninstalled all my networking stuff... dhcp utilities are gone. ifconfig works, but shows only two network... 'lo' and 'docker'. I burned a DVD of Ubuntu server. I don't want to completely reinstall because, as my 10 year old daughter says, that would be poop. I just want to use it "apt-get install ubuntu-server", which presumably includes networking.
[19:51] <OerHeks> flusheddata, add yourself to this bugreport https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1772683
[19:51] <flusheddata> OerHeks thanks you
[19:51] <jorge_> hola a todos
[19:52] <OerHeks> read to the end, there are snap and debs issues, not sure the state of the standard LO debs
[19:52] <black_13> what is the best way to to remote into an ubuntu linux system for osx
[19:52] <leftyfb> black_13: ssh
[19:52] <xamithanx> what
[19:52] <xamithanx> ubuntu system for osx?
[19:53] <leftyfb> xamithanx: I think they're referring to osx as being the client
[19:53] <black_13> vnc ? or better from osx to ubuntu
[19:53] <xamithanx> Oh,  so from osx
[19:53] <OerHeks> ssh, vnc perhaps
[19:53] <flusheddata> mustmodify: have you tried sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager
[19:53] <compdoc> mustmodify, you might never have installed the utils youre talking about. have you tried setting up netplan?
[19:53] <mustmodify> flusheddata: no, let me give it a shot. I wasn't sure what package names to use.
[19:53] <flusheddata> ;-)
[19:54] <mustmodify> compdoc: networking has been working for several years. I certainly uninstalled it.
[19:55] <mustmodify> restarting, as I was in the install CD's UI
[19:57] <mustmodify> that's interesting. "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend - resource temporarily unavailable"
[19:57] <mustmodify> but I just restarted.
[19:58] <OerHeks> that means unattended updates are running?
[19:58] <OerHeks> just wait a minute, and try again
[19:58] <johnfg> hi folks
[19:58] <mustmodify> k
[19:59] <mustmodify> what does the --reinstall flag do?
[19:59] <mustmodify> NM, I'll just ask `man`
[19:59] <johnfg> I wanted to install ubuntu-server-18.04 in a dual-boot system, on /dev/vg0.
[20:00] <mustmodify> OK, it worked this time.
[20:00] <mustmodify> But it didn't work.
[20:00] <johnfg> However, when I boot the live dvd and get to the part of the install for choosing where to install, it doesn't give me the option to select an existing vg or lv.
[20:00] <johnfg> Am I missing something?
[20:00] <mustmodify> I must have purged, because it says it needs 13 NEW packages.
[20:01] <mustmodify> So either I need to get this machine to use networking even without network-manager installed, which would be interesting, or I need to use the DVD as a source for apt-get, or I need to reinstall JUST THE OS...
[20:01] <mustmodify> Or as a last resort, wipe and reinstall everything.
[20:02] <mustmodify> Pretty much in order of preference, though the first two should be swapped.
[20:05] <compdoc> you dont need network-manager. I used to remove it
[20:05] <compdoc> now I just ignore it
[20:06] <mustmodify> ok, well...
[20:06] <mustmodify> that's fine but I do need to get a DHCP lease.
[20:06] <compdoc> setup netplan
[20:08] <mustmodify> I'd rather get the old stuff working again. :)
[20:08] <compdoc> 18.04 has not been around for several years. just a few months. netplan is a new thing, and Ive read breifly that updating from an earlier OS will try to convert it for you
[20:09] <leftyfb> upgrading keeps ifupdown in place
[20:09] <mustmodify> So ... I see apt-cdrom
[20:10] <mustmodify> Wait, what package(s) do I need to get normal DHCP working? presumably isc-dhcp-client
[20:10] <mustmodify> what else?
[20:12] <cmcintosh> hey gang i have a single USB external drive, I am looking to install linux on
[20:12] <cmcintosh> do I need to get another smaller usb for the boot installer?
[20:13] <cmcintosh> or is there a way to just install it onto the single USB somehow?
[20:13] <xamithanx> I've used virtual machine with .iso file and usb passthrough to install before
[20:13] <xamithanx> Not ideal but didn't have a 2nd usb or cd|dvd at the time
[20:13] <lordcirth_> cmcintosh, you want a full, read-write ubuntu install? Other USB, DVD, or VM with usb passthrough are all options
[20:13] <cmcintosh> ah so like load up the iso onto Virtualbox can do it then
[20:13] <cmcintosh> awesome
[20:13] <lordcirth_> I've also done debootstrap, but that requires an already-working Linux install
[20:14] <lordcirth_> yeah. You will need the PUEL-licensed extension pack to Vbox for USB passthrough
[20:15] <cmcintosh> ah crap
[20:15] <cmcintosh> or rather
[20:15] <cmcintosh> not sure what that means
[20:16] <lordcirth_> cmcintosh, what OS are you on right now?
[20:17] <cmcintosh> i have a windows 10 box
[20:17] <compdoc> Ive tried booting ubuntu from a usb, but after awhile the usb stick would always start having issues. even on brand new ones. does ubuntu have the option of minimum writes, like some other OSes have?
[20:18] <lordcirth_> cmcintosh, you need this extension: https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/6.0.4/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-6.0.4.vbox-extpack
[20:18] <ioria> cmcintosh, if you burn the iso on usb pendrive with rufus and install on the external drive, you'll be up in 20 minutes
[20:19] <cmcintosh> i dont have a second USB atm
[20:19] <cmcintosh> and its 1am :/
[20:19] <cmcintosh> rather 4am
[20:20] <cmcintosh> ah i think i have that one installed already the VB ext that is
[20:20] <lordcirth_> cmcintosh, ok. then you should be able to use USB passthrough to pass the external drive into to VM, boot the iso, and install
[20:21] <lordcirth_> cmcintosh, is this a USB hard drive or a flash drive?
[20:23] <mustmodify> so I did `sudo systemctl start networking`  and it complains that "/dev/stderr: No such device or address"
[20:23] <mustmodify> ... which seems odd.
[20:24] <compdoc> did you install anything? that missing stuff you said?
[20:24] <mustmodify> nothing yet.
[20:24] <mustmodify> I'm still trying to get apt-get working from the cdrom
[20:24] <mustmodify> I used apt-cdrom and that seemed to work, but apt-get still fails.
[20:25] <compdoc> just create a netplan file. its easy. we can help you
[20:25] <mustmodify> ok.
[20:25] <mustmodify> But ... sorry to be dense... if I use netplan, then the next step would be to start networking, right?
[20:26] <compdoc> no. you apply the config and it orks
[20:26] <compdoc> works
[20:26] <mustmodify> I see.
[20:26] <mustmodify> So it won't need to create something at /dev/stderr ?
[20:26] <cmcintosh> thanks again lordcirth_ save me a wait for the store to open ;)
[20:26] <compdoc> you would never create anything there
[20:26] <mustmodify> I thought not.
[20:27] <mustmodify> But I tried to start networking and the error I got was "cannot create /dev/stderr: No such device or address"
[20:27] <mustmodify> Anyway, netplan.
[20:27] <compdoc> type 'ip a'   does it list your nic?
[20:27] <demiseed> hey yall
[20:28] <demiseed> can someone tell my why im getting a permission error when trying to ./ on a fresh vps?
[20:28] <mustmodify> yes
[20:28] <compdoc> what is the name of the nic?
[20:28] <demiseed> -bash: ./manage.py: Permission denied
[20:28] <demiseed> but am running as root ? ;d
[20:29] <genii> is "manage.py" set executable?
[20:31] <mustmodify> enp2s0
[20:31] <demiseed> genii i think so?
[20:32] <compdoc> great. type cd /etc/netplan  to switch to that folder
[20:32] <mustmodify> compdoc: https://photos.app.goo.gl/NCwKMhqAS3MHrdz16
[20:33] <mustmodify> enp2s0
[20:33] <compdoc> you have 2 nics?
[20:33] <mustmodify> yes
[20:33] <mustmodify> I thought I was having an issue with my onboard one, but then it turned out it was the router.
[20:33] <mustmodify> I'll uninstall it if that removes confusion.
[20:33] <compdoc> ok, what files do you see in  /etc/netpla
[20:33] <compdoc> n
[20:34] <mustmodify> I don't have /etc/netplan
[20:35] <compdoc> this is 18.04?
[20:35] <mustmodify> yes.
[20:35] <mustmodify> I updated from 16 if that matters.
[20:35] <mustmodify> It was not a great experience.
[20:35] <compdoc> so then you use /etc/network/interfaces
[20:36] <compdoc> can you post that file on pastebin?
[20:36] <mustmodify> ok, I have stuff in that file.
[20:36] <mustmodify> yep.
[20:38] <vimar> Hi
[20:38] <mustmodify> https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/ffa9b4b4119e9d871d84f1673d9f1808
[20:40] <compdoc> that looks correct for those nics, although dhcp can assign the nameservers
[20:41] <compdoc> you sure your dhcp service is working?
[20:41] <mustmodify> It is not working.
[20:41] <mustmodify> that's the problem.
[20:41] <mustmodify> Oh
[20:41] <mustmodify> upstream
[20:41] <mustmodify> yes.
[20:41] <compdoc> on your router, or whatever
[20:41] <mustmodify> I'm on a PC plugged into the same router.
[20:42] <mustmodify> when I `ping <IP_ADDRESS>` I get "Network is unreachable"
[20:42] <mustmodify> so it's not just DHCP.
[20:42] <mustmodify> I uninstalled other networking stuff, apparently.
[20:42] <compdoc> how about setting the ip address manually? you just need to use the same settings as your working pc, except a different ip
[20:43] <compdoc> yes, theres no addresss
[20:43] <compdoc> shows in you pic
[20:43] <mustmodify> Right.
[20:43] <compdoc> whats the ip of your current machine?
[20:43] <mustmodify> That machine was at .18
[20:43] <mustmodify> <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:44] <compdoc> just a sec
[20:44] <mustmodify> current machine is <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:46] <verno> hello, i just used OS-Uninstaller to uninstall windows from my dual boot, but i cant boot any OS anymore.
[20:48] <compdoc> mustmodify, try this    https://pastebin.com/gzeYvfSH
[20:48] <compdoc> for /etc/network/interfaces
[20:48] <OerHeks> verno, use the live iso to reinstall grub? see ubottu
[20:48] <OerHeks> !grub
[20:49] <compdoc> mustmodify, oops, thats wrong
[20:49] <compdoc> use the same nic in both places
[20:50] <compdoc> https://pastebin.com/fE7ad313
[20:51] <mustmodify> ok, now what?
[20:51] <compdoc> reboot
[20:52] <mustmodify> ok.
[20:52] <mustmodify> in progress.
[20:52] <compdoc> then ip a, and see if that nis has an address
[20:52] <compdoc> nic
[20:53] <verno> OerHeks, thanks
[20:53] <leonardus> I'm helping a friend learn Ubuntu, is there any remote desktop software I can use so I can see what he's doing and show him how to do stuff?
[20:53] <flusheddata> Can someone sign LibreOffice documents with GPG in Ubuntu 18
[20:53] <flusheddata> =
[20:53] <flusheddata> ?
[20:54] <verno> leonardus, google Timeviewer
[20:54] <verno> Teamviewer*
[20:54] <mustmodify> compdoc: It does; but when I ping <IP_ADDRESS>, it's 'Destination host unreachable'
[20:54] <flusheddata> leonardus: The easy way: 1) Teamviewer, 2) Anydesk
[20:55] <flusheddata> Both are very similar. Anydesk is founded by former Teamviewer team members
[20:55] <compdoc> mustmodify, is that gateway ip correct?   gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:55] <flusheddata> Both are easy to setup and straight
[20:55] <mustmodify> I'll verify
[20:55] <mustmodify> oh, no. Let me fix that.
[20:56] <mustmodify> surprisingly, the gateway shown on windows is <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:56] <compdoc> then you need to change that
[20:56] <mustmodify> yep, already done and rebooting
[20:57] <Charlie4friend> hello :) My laptop is running epiphany os. currently wifi download speeds are coming out at 20mbps whereas phone and other laptop are showing 50-55mbps. where to start in addressing this?
[20:57] <compdoc> can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[20:58] <flusheddata> Charlie4friend: It depends on your machine's wifi hardware. Your laptop is probably quite old, isn't it?
[20:58] <Charlie4friend> flusheddata whats the terminal command to show network adapter?
[20:59] <mustmodify> IT WORKS!
[20:59] <mustmodify> Thanks compdoc.
[20:59] <mustmodify> So ...
[20:59] <mustmodify> So what now?
[20:59] <compdoc> your machine sounds messed up, but not completely gone :)
[20:59] <mustmodify> I mean, presumably I shouldn't be using a static IP.
[20:59] <mustmodify> Oh good.
[20:59] <OerHeks> !cookie | compdoc
[20:59] <compdoc> you shouldnt need to, but no problem using it
[21:00] <compdoc> sudo apt update, to start. but you might need to do more than that
[21:01] <mustmodify> I did update, thanks.
[21:01] <compdoc> i dont know how to reinstall network components
[21:01] <mustmodify> Hey, just being up is a big deal. Thanks.
[21:02] <compdoc> if any device on your network uses that address, <IP_ADDRESS>, things will get wonkey
[21:02] <lunatikos> hello ! i would like to add a sudo command at boot... how can i do please, i'm newbie.
[21:02] <mustmodify> right.
[21:05] <JimBuntu> lunatikos, man /etc/rc.local ?
[21:06] <mustmodify> Thanks again compdoc
[21:06] <mustmodify> Likely there would have been a LOT of random-attempts-at-whatever before that got solved.
[21:07] <compdoc> sure. good luck
[21:11] <lunatikos> jimbuntu added it to rc.local "ntfsfix /dev/sdb1"
[21:11] <lunatikos> sry i was away :s
[21:11] <jjbuggle> year of desktop question: how do I reduce an image size?  I need it to go from 4mb to under 3mb
[21:11] <JimBuntu> lunatikos, that looks right to me.
[21:11] <lunatikos> gimp ?
[21:11] <lunatikos> ok i gonna try jim i come back after boot
[21:13] <lunatikos> back, jim, it don't work :(
[21:14] <Charlie4friend> sorry for noob question. for basic daily usage would you reccomend installing an antivirus for epiphany os? thank you
[21:14] <lunatikos> i would like to "sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb1" everytime im on desktop
[21:14] <lunatikos> at boot
[21:15] <OerHeks> epifany os is not supported here, but generally no
[21:15] <OerHeks> !antivirus
[21:15] <OerHeks> lunatikos, why would one fix a filesystem standard on boot?
[21:16] <lunatikos> cause i tried chkdsk on windows and there no errors, but hdd refuses to mount on linux, except if i do ntfsfix command.
[21:17] <compdoc>  chkdsk is horrible to run on disks, except to fix files
[21:17] <compdoc> jsut read the SMART
[21:17] <lunatikos> i have projects on windows hdd i would like to have access on both windows / linux... (i have no dual boot, i do boot in bios)
[21:17] <lunatikos> smart is to control hdd health no ?
[21:18] <JimBuntu> lunatikos, did you put the command above the exit command ?
[21:18] <lunatikos> above = up ?
[21:18] <compdoc> not control it. its used to read info about the drive, like if its dying
[21:18] <JimBuntu> yes, earlier in the file
[21:18] <lunatikos> no
[21:18] <JimBuntu> lunatikos, then that is why. Your added commands need to come before the exit command
[21:18] <compdoc> you using ubuntu now?
[21:19] <jjbuggle> is there a way to convert a pdf to jpg?
[21:19] <lunatikos> i do "exit = 0"  (enter) then "ntfsfix ...." ?
[21:19] <JimBuntu> lunatikos, other way around please
[21:19] <lunatikos> ?
[21:19] <lunatikos> i have ubuntu
[21:19] <compdoc> open the disks utility
[21:19] <lunatikos> plz help me, it has been 3 days with no success :(
[21:19] <JimBuntu> lunatikos, it should be your command ( enter ) then exit 0
[21:20] <JimBuntu> don't type in the 'then' sorry
[21:20] <lunatikos> added "exit=0" to rc.local
[21:21] <JimBuntu> Once it's working well enough, someone can help you with WHY you are having this issue. I'm betting Windows isn't actually being powered off and is actually doing that fastboot thing, which leaves NTFS drives in a 'dirty' state
[21:21] <lunatikos> compdoc, now in disk util i do what ?
[21:21] <lunatikos> ah ! exit 0
[21:22] <OerHeks><EMAIL_ADDRESS>and enable it:  uuid=.... 0 0  to 0 1
[21:22] <compdoc> select the drive in the list, and in the upper right of the window, there's 3 short bars. click that and select SMART DATA etc
[21:23] <lunatikos> i have no smart data
[21:23] <compdoc> external?
[21:23] <lunatikos> no, sata
[21:23] <compdoc> you might need to enable smart in the bios then
[21:23] <compdoc> sorry
[21:24] <compdoc> thats a shame
[21:24] <lunatikos> i think its on, i reboot fast...
[21:24] <compdoc> ok
[21:28] <lunatikos> bk
[21:28] <compdoc> was it off?
[21:29] <lunatikos> rc.local wont work. smart was activated, but sata hot plug was disabled so i enabled it for all..
[21:29] <compdoc> dont think that matters for samrt
[21:29] <compdoc> smart
[21:30] <lunatikos> https://i.imgur.com/UavsE07.jpg
[21:30] <lunatikos> my disk tool
[21:30] <lunatikos> if i click active it wont boot, saying acpi error
[21:31] <compdoc> I dont think thats right. its the gnome-disk-util
[21:31] <compdoc> that looks different
[21:31] <lunatikos> i have 18.10 i think
[21:31] <lunatikos> ubuntu
[21:31] <lunatikos> ubuntustudio
[21:32] <compdoc> https://i.stack.imgur.com/p4Zf4.png
[21:32] <lunatikos> (it has jack audio + gimp + libre office included..)
[21:32] <compdoc> do you see smart as an option anywhere? right clcik?
[21:32] <lunatikos> how do i download it "disk-utility" ?
[21:33] <lunatikos> no
[21:33] <compdoc> sudo apt install gnome-disk-utility
[21:33] <lunatikos> thx
[21:35] <lunatikos> https://i.imgur.com/oaTAMVm.jpg
[21:36] <compdoc> yes, now click the little gear icon upper right
[21:36] <lunatikos> ok then ?
[21:36] <compdoc> select smart. show a pic of that
[21:36] <compdoc> is that the boot drive?
[21:37] <lunatikos> https://i.imgur.com/mkL4l2n.png
[21:38] <compdoc> that drive is perfect.
[21:38] <compdoc> no problems
[21:38] <lunatikos> not the boot drive, its astorage
[21:38] <compdoc> check all your drives
[21:39] <compdoc> reallocated sectors value should = 0
[21:39] <lunatikos> all ok
[21:39] <compdoc> smae with pending sectors
[21:40] <compdoc> good. hard drives and ssd can begin to fail and show reallocated sectors. you have to replace the drive then
[21:40] <lunatikos> all ok 0
[21:40] <lunatikos> ?
[21:40] <lunatikos> replace ?
[21:40] <compdoc> if they have more than zero reallocated sectors, then the drive is dying
[21:41] <lunatikos> they all 0
[21:41] <compdoc> perfect
[21:41] <lunatikos> :)
[21:41] <compdoc> i replace a lot of failing drives for my customers
[21:41] <compdoc> they go bad a lot
[21:42] <lunatikos> so why it doesnt mount ?
[21:43] <compdoc> its ntfs
[21:43] <lunatikos> so ?
[21:43] <compdoc> in the disks program, slect the drive, then select the large partition in the image, and click the start button
[21:43] <lunatikos> then ?
[21:44] <lunatikos> (play button right ?)
[21:44] <compdoc> does it show mounted?
[21:44] <compdoc> yes, play button
[21:44] <lunatikos> no
[21:44] <lunatikos> it refuses to mount
[21:44] <lunatikos> it does nothing
[21:45] <lunatikos> status is not mounted
[21:45] <compdoc> how abuot the 2nd partition?
[21:45] <compdoc> i cant tell how large those are
[21:45] <lunatikos> all stay not mounted
[21:46] <lunatikos> 1 go
[21:46] <lunatikos> *1 To *
[21:46] <lunatikos> 2 to
[21:46] <compdoc> how many partitins does it have? just 2?
[21:46] <lunatikos> ssd 500 go
[21:46] <lunatikos> 4 to
[21:46] <lunatikos> 1 on each disks
[21:46] <OerHeks> has it ever mounted, and were you able to read AND write?
[21:46] <lunatikos> on ubuntu 16 or 14 yes
[21:46] <lunatikos> not in 18
[21:46] <OerHeks> i think you need exfat utils
[21:46] <lunatikos> but never
[21:47] <lunatikos> exFAT allow more than 4 Gb files ?
[21:47] <OerHeks> sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[21:47] <lunatikos> done
[21:48] <OerHeks> restart nautilus \
[21:48] <lunatikos> nautilus is terminal ?
[21:49] <compdoc> file
[21:49] <lunatikos> file ?
[21:49] <lunatikos> i reboot ?
[21:49] <compdoc> used to browse files
[21:49] <OerHeks> filemanager
[21:49] <lunatikos> then
[21:50] <lunatikos> exFAT format allows + 4 Gb files ?
[21:50] <lunatikos> (movies x264 etc...)
[21:51] <OerHeks> yes, it is their next generation filesystem.
[21:51] <lunatikos> ok
[21:51] <QwertyChouskie> Halp! https://i.imgur.com/QWQsuKX.png GTK2 theming broke
[21:51] <lunatikos> i do what with file browser now ?
[21:51] <QwertyChouskie> And I have a bunch of stuff up so I don't want to reboot
[21:51] <OerHeks> but your screenpost says so, so i guess you had to install these before in 14.04 and 16.04
[21:52] <OerHeks> now mount that sdb again, in your filemanager, or manually
[21:52] <lunatikos> i must reformat the NTFS data in exFAT, and recopy folders in exFAT ?
[21:52] <compdoc> no
[21:53] <compdoc> should just work with the magic of linux
[21:53] <lunatikos> it refuses to mount in file browser
[21:53] <compdoc> if not, try to reboot and see if Disks program can mount it
[21:53] <lunatikos> ok i reboot
[21:54] <OerHeks> good, then that ntfs is corrupted, but not by windows... now think.
[21:56] <lunatikos> no it wont mount
[21:56] <lunatikos> in chronology there is fat < ntfs < exFAT ?
[21:56] <lunatikos> fat32*
[21:57] <lunatikos> in chronology there is fat32 < ntfs < exFAT ?
[21:57] <compdoc> lunatikos, I dont mount ntfs disks in nix very often, but i just google how to with the version  of ubuntu
[21:57] <lunatikos> i not found
[21:57] <lunatikos> the better is i format in exFAT then i re-copy all files in no ?
[21:58] <compdoc> I would think you need to load ntfs utils rather than exfat
[21:58] <lunatikos> i got ntfsfix
[21:58] <lunatikos> if i type "sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb1" it mounts
[21:58] <compdoc> exFAT is a file system that was created to be used on flash drives like USB memory sticks and SD cards.
[21:59] <catbeard> anyone have a command to return the apt package name given a full path to a file?
[21:59] <lunatikos> if ntfs filesystem is the pb i can reformat in exFAT then copy back files...
[22:00] <lunatikos> if exFAT is compatible by both win10 & ubuntu
[22:00] <OerHeks> lunatikos, no, your ntfs drivers should be fine, there might be something else what corrupts your partition, like malware
[22:00] <OerHeks> in windows
[22:01] <lunatikos> how i can do ?
[22:01] <lunatikos> i launched eset, malwarebytes and rogue killer..
[22:01] <lunatikos> all clean
[22:01] <Bashing-om> catbeard: ' dpkg -S <full_path> ' do ya ?
[22:01] <lunatikos> i have a kaspersky bootable disk
[22:02] <lunatikos> the better is i format no ?
[22:02] <lunatikos> in exfat
[22:03] <OerHeks> if there is no data on it, you can
[22:03] <OerHeks> but that is not a fix
[22:03] <lunatikos> there iare datas, i can copy back on later..
[22:04] <lunatikos> are*
[22:04] <lunatikos> ok i gonna format in exFAT
[22:05] <lunatikos> i added you to contact OerHeks and compdoc
[22:05] <lunatikos> ... too much time i passed trying to fix the pb, the job, my projects awaits.
[22:06] <lunatikos> u agree with EXFAT format ?
[22:07] <compdoc> me? I dont use it, so cant say
[22:08] <lunatikos> i use kaspersky rescue disk to try to heal the partition 1st ?
[22:08] <lunatikos> ext4 is not compatible with windows 10 ?
[22:08] <compdoc> thats an AV, dont think it can repair. open the drives in windows. or boot the Ubuntu dvd live and try
[22:09] <VitoG> hi compdoc
[22:09] <compdoc> I heard something about win10 and linux file systems recently
[22:09] <lunatikos> what filesystem i should use to work both in win10 and linux ubuntu ?
[22:09] <compdoc> but usally not. ext4 for nix, and ntfs for windows
[22:10] <compdoc> and zfs for really large
[22:10] <lunatikos> exFAT is ok for both ? + files + 4 Gb ?
[22:10] <GOAtia> hi all please help, I have some issues with updating, editing of repositories. 1. The "software & update" icon/program is nowhere to be found on my system. 2. I tried a sudo update and upgrade command and an error "N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details." therefore I am unable to see or access any repositories. Running Ububtu 18.10
[22:10] <lunatikos> exFAT is ok for both ? + files + 4 Gb ?
[22:11] <lunatikos> files > 4Gb
[22:11] <catbeard> i need to install nvidia drivers on bunsenlabs linux, gtx 1050 4GB model
[22:12] <catbeard> need to run cuda-z
[22:12] <lunatikos> i format in ubuntu and click "usable by windows" ?
[22:12] <compdoc> sounds good to me
[22:13] <lunatikos> but its ntfs again..
[22:13] <compdoc> but can you mount it
[22:13] <lunatikos> "fat" format in disk utility is exFAT or fat 32 ? i need files > 4gb.
[22:14] <compdoc> try to mount it
[22:15] <lunatikos> i click fat in disk utility ?
[22:15] <compdoc> format in ubuntu and click "usable by windows"
[22:16] <lunatikos> but can't mount if ntfs
[22:16] <compdoc> try it
[22:16] <lunatikos> there also a choice "other"
[22:16] <compdoc> you couldnt mount those weird partitions. maybe you can mount a proper partition
[22:17] <lunatikos> ok i gonna try
[22:19] <GOAtia> hi all please help, I have some issues with updating, editing of repositories. 1. The "software & update" icon/program is nowhere to be found on my system. 2. I tried a sudo update and upgrade command and an error "N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details." therefore I am unable to see or access any repositories. Running Ububtu 18.10
[22:19] <lunatikos> i'll tell you mates, i added you in contacts... seeya
[22:19] <compdoc> bye
[22:19] <lunatikos> bye ! nn
[22:19] <lunatikos> (i gonna do it now..)
[22:20] <nacc_> GOAtia: don't paste parts of messages, instead use a pastebin and provide the complete output from `sudo apt update`
[22:20] <OerHeks> GOAtia, are you behind a proxy?
[22:20] <cek> How do I specify which cert to use for dkms module signing?
[22:21] <OerHeks> dkms module signing .. all i know is MOK utils
[22:22] <catbeard> ok just installed xserver-xorg-nvidia i think and rebooted as instructed, now it doesn't let the mouse or keyboard do anything on login screen
[22:23] <GOAtia> I shall use the pastebin in future sorry, I am new at linux and Hexchat still have a lot to learn, wrt to the proxy I am not sure, how do I find out? I am connected directly to the fibre router
[22:31] <lunatikos> what i can use to format in exFAT ?
[22:33] <GOAtia> ?? where do I find this Pastebin ?
[22:33] <xamithanx> !paste
[22:35] <GOAtia> Oh I see :)
[22:39] <GOAtia> OK, I just pasted the command lines, should I send the address ?
[22:40] <xamithanx> If you want people to see it,  yeah
[22:40] <Bashing-om> GOAtia: If you want us to see what you want us to see, then yes ,, post that link :)
[22:41] <GOAtia> lol cool sorry first time https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XR2TBQCRQj/
[22:41] <Bashing-om> GOAtia: :) ... All a process of learning.
[22:42] <OerHeks> see
[22:42] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-debian/+archive/ubuntu/kxstudio
[22:42] <OerHeks> there are no cosmic candidates, remove that repo and you are fine
[22:45] <GOAtia> Thats my problem I cannot access, edit, alter or remove repos.. the "Software & Update" icon/program cannot be found on my system
[22:45] <xamithanx> do it manually
[22:47] <tomreyn> GOAtia: can you open a temrinal?
[22:47] <GOAtia> yes
[22:47] <tomreyn> GOAtia: which graphical desktop do you run there?
[22:48] <tomreyn> kde, gnome?
[22:49] <tomreyn> GOAtia: still around?
[22:49] <GOAtia> yea I dont know where to check
[22:50] <tomreyn> when you installed ubuntu, did you download it from ubuntu.com.com, or some other site?
[22:50] <tomreyn> err ubuntu.com
[22:50] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[22:50] <GOAtia> From ubuntu.com
[22:50] <CountryfiedLinux> I logged out of a live session on Ubuntu Mate. What's the user name and password to log in?
[22:50] <bobdobbs> I want to lay out and print some stickers on my home printer. I've got printing set up. What software should I use for laying out a page for printing?
[22:51] <tomreyn> GOAtia: type this in the terminal: software-properties-gtk
[22:51] <tomreyn> GOAtia: then press enter
[22:51] <compdoc> you can take the linux out of the coutry, but you cant take the country outta linux. my pappy used to say
[22:51] <tomreyn> GOAtia: does this bring up the software settings you were looking for?
[22:52] <GOAtia> command not found :(
[22:52] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: i'm not really good at this, but i guess a vector graphics application.
[22:53] <GOAtia> sorry typo
[22:53] <tomreyn> GOAtia: so you got the software properties GUI now?
[22:53] <tomreyn> the window with those settings opened?
[22:54] <GOAtia> yes finally
[22:54] <tomreyn> GOAtia: you can right-click the icon on the panel and add it to favorites
[22:54] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, openoffice/libreoffice gives all sorts and standard printer sticker formats, also businesscards and such
[22:55] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: thanks. I'll give that a shot :)
[22:56] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: inkscape would be the standard for editing vector graphics, i would think.
[22:56] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: but it might be oversized, and maybe lobreoffice draw is easier in the end.
[22:56] <tomreyn> *libreoffice
[22:56] <OerHeks> oh, that is creating the graphics, yes
[22:56] <bobdobbs> tomreyn: I kinda know my way around inkscape. But would it really be the best for printing stuff?
[22:57] <OerHeks> i read to print on;
[22:57] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: i would not know, have a lack of experience there, sorry.
[22:58] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: Maybe Inkscape to create the graphics, then LO Draw to lay them out on the page.
[22:59] <GOAtia> YAY thanks man :) I will be able to try and sort it out from here
[22:59] <bobdobbs> LO Draw?
[22:59] <tomreyn> libreoffice
[22:59] <tomreyn> ubuntu's office suite
[22:59] <GOAtia> Thanks for the help guys
[23:00] <tomreyn> GOAtia: you're welcome. make sure "sudo apt update" returns no warnings or errors in the end.
[23:01] <OerHeks> ubuntustudio-graphics  ~-video and ~-publishing  are pretty good https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ubuntustudio
[23:02] <OerHeks> -photography gives darktable too
[23:21] <amazoniantoad> can anyone invite me to #programming?
[23:22] <leftyfb> amazoniantoad: that's not what this channel is for. Go to #freenode for help with other channels
[23:22] <amazoniantoad> leftyfb, thanks
[23:33] <bobdobbs> is there a printer management ui on ubuntu?
[23:33] <bobdobbs> I think I've print job stuck. I'd like to delete it so I can... print something else
[23:35] <xamithanx> there is a cups windows
[23:36] <bobdobbs> xamithanx: this is a gui? how do I access it?
[23:38] <xamithanx> it is called print-manager on kde,  not sure on gnome
[23:38] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: settings -> devices -> printers
[23:38] <tomreyn> that's if you'Re on a current ubuntu (gnome-shell)
[23:39] <jeremyb> Then there is localhost:631 in a web browser
[23:41] <bobdobbs> thanks :)
[23:42] <bobdobbs> damn. I tried cancelling all three jobs in the queue. The dialogue responded by hanging, and the printer spat out a page of semi-printed garbage
[23:57] <puxavida> I have xbuntu 18.10 installed on a laptop. The resolution is too small so I changed the scaleing to x2, but now top of the applications hide under the top panel.  Is there a way to adjust this?
[23:57] <eater9> Hi, running ubuntu 18.04 and twice now in the last week, in the middle of the workday, the root filesystem has suddenly become read-only. I have to reboot from a live disk and fsck it. What the heck could be causing that?
[23:57] <puxavida> applications do this when super-right arrow or maximize
[23:58] <tomreyn> eater9: broken storage, check smart data
[23:58] <tomreyn> !smart | eater9
[23:59] <OerHeks> puxavida, hold windows key & drag with L-mouse
[23:59] <tomreyn> eater9: also see system logs (journalctl)
[23:59] <tharkun> Good $DAY, I am looking for some versions of several daemons running under ubuntu. Where can I look into that information?
[23:59] <tomreyn> tharkun: on a nearby random number generator?