[00:28] <picklesworth> Eeek, I've gotta go. Oh well, bye :)
[08:47] <zniavre> good morning
[09:43]  * thorwil enters new areas: http://www.istockphoto.com/file_search.php?action=file&userID=4970236
[11:25] <kwwii> thorwil: hehe, cool stuff
[11:25] <thorwil> ty :)
[11:30] <mac_v> thorwil: whats that for , btw?
[11:31] <thorwil> mac_v: quite surprisingly for a site called istockphoto, it's stock art. a bit much on the specific side for stock, but they already have so many images, that it's hard to be generic but still unique
[11:32]  * thorwil -> food
[12:30] <mac_v> kwwii: quick question , do the notification icons[notification daemon , not notify-osd] use the fdo naming? or do they use the naming from the apps?
[12:42] <kwwii> mac_v: the attempt was mixed but they really don't follow fdo naming
[12:42] <kwwii> or the notification would not be in front
[12:43] <kwwii> but when possible they follow it
[12:44] <mac_v> kwwii: i'm trying to file a bug in notify-osd to use the translate notification used by the apps rather than forcing all ubuntu packages to carry patches .. we could do this for atleast the apps in the default install
[12:44] <mac_v> s/to use the translate/to translate
[12:45] <mac_v> that is why gpm still hasnt been patched , seb and pitti are reluctant
[12:45] <kwwii> mac_v: ? slow done
[12:45] <kwwii> let me understand ;)
[12:45] <kwwii> down
[12:46] <kwwii> mac_v: what do you mean by "translate notification"?
[12:46] <mac_v> hehe , ;) , let me explain
[12:48] <mac_v> kwwii: No upstream app will ever use notify-osd icon labels , since notify-osd is only ubuntu specific , so every ubuntu package will need a patch for this! , But it is not possible to patch all apps and carry patches just because Ubuntu has a new notification system.. Instead it will be simpler to make notify-osd to recognize the upstream names and  to convert these icon names to its own naming system [notify-osd icon names ]... this is a more
[12:48] <mac_v>  ideal approach
[12:48] <mac_v> right now , nm applet is patched , empathy is patched ,
[12:50] <mac_v> im apps are all being patched  , but they all use a common icon name , why cant notify-osd just be smart ;)
[12:53] <kwwii> mac_v: honestly, I have no opinion on this other than the fact that it works
[12:53] <kwwii> mac_v: I think it would be very hard to have notify-osd change icon names and such
[12:53] <zniavre_> hello / bonjour
[12:54] <mac_v> kwwii: ;) ... well... ok , then you need to convince seb and pitti /asac to patch gpm
[12:54] <zniavre_> what is this widget in The Gimp (zoom) please >http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8576/capturebp.png
[12:54] <zniavre_> ?
[12:55] <mac_v> kwwii: it still uses the gpm icons for notifications , and there has been no bug filed for a gpm patch ;)
[12:55] <kwwii> mac_v: ok, let's talk to them
[13:05] <kwwii> mac_v: in any case, there should be a bug about this
[13:05] <kwwii> mac_v: is the current problem with the battery icons in notify-osd caused because gpm uses the same names for that as in the apps?
[13:06] <mac_v> kwwii: yup
[13:06] <mac_v> mat_t: ^ i think you should file the bug ;)
[13:06] <kwwii> mat_t: yeah, mac_v is right
[13:44] <mac_v> kwwii: is the gpm icon supposed to exist in the gdm? the gdm uses the greyscale icon for the gdm instead of using mat_t's icons
[13:45] <mac_v> i guess he hasnt done the icons yet for the gpm
[13:48] <kwwii> mac_v: where does that appear in gdm?
[13:49] <kwwii> ahhh, in the notification
[13:49] <mac_v> kwwii: it shows up to the right of the accessibility icon , maybe i see it because i'm on a laptop
[13:49] <kwwii> mac_v: I am on a laptop as well
[13:50] <mac_v> hehe , ... hmm , so you have the icon as well?
[13:51] <kwwii> yes, the notification shows a green battery
[13:51] <kwwii> which is incorrect
[13:51] <kwwii> I had this discussion a week or more ago
[13:52] <kwwii> and thought it was fixed
[13:52] <mac_v> kwwii: odd , for me the icon is the greyscale icon from humanity...
[13:56] <kwwii> mac_v: hrm, it also appears in the panel
[13:56] <kwwii> shit
[13:56] <kwwii> do you know the name of the icon being displayed there?
[13:57] <kwwii> mat_t: ^----^ we need an icon asap
[13:57] <mac_v> kwwii: the gpm-* icons
[13:57] <kwwii> fsck, I hate gdm
[13:57] <kwwii> this new gdm is nothing but pain
[13:58] <mac_v> lol , it's gonna be a pain doing those icons in white with glow ;)
[13:59] <mac_v> mat_t: you need to do 15 more icons ;p
[14:07] <mat_t> mac_v: don't worry about it now, for now the shutdown icon is more important - we have to make sure it gets in
[14:09] <mac_v> mat_t: the panel shutdown icon is already in , it is just a bug from tedg's side ;)
[14:16] <mat_t> cool, dude you rock
[14:16] <mat_t> :)
[14:16] <mat_t> thanks
[14:35] <kwwii> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-netbook-remix-default-settings/+bug/444766
[14:35] <kwwii> anyone want to try fixing this?
[14:36] <kwwii> it is a matter of fixing the definitions of color for those widgets
[14:43] <dashua_> kwwii, Already fixed upstream :)
[14:44] <kwwii> dashua_: sweeet!
[14:44] <kwwii> dashua_: you rock
[14:45] <kwwii> dashua_: are you coordinating getting this change included with anyone?
[14:46] <kwwii> dashua_: or to put to better, can I help in any way ;)
[14:46] <tgpraveen> !logs
[14:47] <dashua_> I'm marking the bug, but this fix is pushed to Dust and Hanso (community-themes) and should make it in.
[14:47] <dashua_> Kido pushed to Dust and I pushed to Hanso, affects both
[14:50] <dashua_> AndrewSB here?
[14:50] <kwwii> dashua_: cool, if there is anything I can do to help get it in, just let me know
[14:50] <kwwii> I've got special buttons on my computer for making devs do things
[14:51] <dashua_> I think Andrew was making the changes to community-themes and gnome-themes-ubuntu
[14:51] <dashua_> They should both be updated
[14:51] <dashua_> :)
[14:51] <kwwii> cool
[14:55] <zniavre> re-hello >how is managed the bottom panel with gdm ?
[14:55] <zniavre> the combobox does not follow the gtkrc rules
[14:59] <zniavre> they are not combobox right ?
[15:00] <kwwii> zniavre: not sure, haven't looked into it
[15:00] <kwwii> zniavre: I can imagine it is a special widgets
[15:00] <zniavre> i can too
[15:01] <zniavre> there is a way to check it ?
[15:01] <kwwii> check the code
[15:01] <zniavre> mmmm  :o(       code lines are hieroglyphes for me
[15:06] <zniavre> it could be that ?>http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/557/capture1v.png
[16:28] <MisterKanister> Hi! I painted a Wallpaper what should I do with it?
[16:29] <MisterKanister> (to make it accessible to the public)
[17:43] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[18:46] <mac_v> SiDi: found the wireless notify-osd icons you kept asking > they are in gnome-colors
[18:48] <knome> mac_v, gnome-colors is mostly a ripoff theme :P
[18:50] <mac_v> knome: i have *never* used it...! i dont know why they are so famous :( only now i downloaded it since i was asked something regarding them
[18:51] <mac_v> knome: i think those notify-osd icons were first used by canonical , and then the gnome-colors guys have copied them
[18:51] <knome> yeah, well, it is a theme that just combines many themes
[18:51] <mac_v> kwwii: copyright ;)
[18:51] <knome> mac_v, exactly.
[18:52] <knome> mac_v, kwwii is probably going to have a heart attack or something for your comment
[18:52] <mac_v> lol ;)
[18:55] <knome> well i suppose that doesn't really matter, mark is going to kill him anyway
[18:56] <thorwil> knome: who's going to be killed and why?
[18:56] <mac_v> damn it.. mark just quit the irc... or we could have had a blood bath ;p
[18:56] <knome> thorwil, kwwii for copyright issues
[18:57] <SiDi> mac_v: err, which icons do you mean? may i have a screeny ? :P
[18:57] <mac_v> SiDi: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/notification-network-wireless-high.svg
[18:58] <SiDi> err, yeah, thats the notify-osd ones
[18:58] <mac_v> found them in the gnome-dust ,and a couple of others
[18:58] <mac_v> *all* the notification icons have been copied ...
[18:59] <SiDi> ouch
[18:59] <knome> lol
[18:59] <knome> kwwii, you're a dead man
[19:02] <mac_v> wow , they have a folder 'notifications' with all the canonical proprietary stuff
[19:04] <thorwil> mac_v: what's the issue? stuffed that shouldn't have slipped out of canonical? or canonical icons resemble someone else's earlier work?
[19:06] <SiDi> thorwil: kwwii published the icons in the human theme, and then was shout at because sabdfl wanted them to be under a proprietary license so that only ubuntu would have it, if i understood well
[19:07] <mac_v> thorwil: icons dont resemble , they *are* canonical stuff... and these icons are allowed to be used only after sabdfl gives permissions to copy... which i dont think the gnome-colors guys asked for ;)
[19:08] <mac_v> thorwil: and tbh they are from the earlier stuff canonical did , these didnt even make it to jaunty beta...
[19:09] <mac_v> the wireless icons are older ones
[19:09] <thorwil> SiDi, mac_v: ty
[19:39] <kwwii> how am I a dead man? what did I do?
[19:40] <kwwii> you just cannot copy the icons into another theme
[19:40] <kwwii> so we added a theme with just them in it
[19:40] <kwwii> which makes sense
[19:41] <knome> kwwii, people have still copied the icons
[19:44] <thorwil> some people are just ignorant of licensing
[19:45] <knome> yep.
[19:47] <kwwii> knome: then they might very well get a letter or email or such
[19:47] <kwwii> if it is ever noticed
[19:48] <knome> yup
[19:48] <knome> kwwii, but be careful, the paper might be sharp and make a cut in your throat
[19:48] <knome> ;)
[19:49] <thorwil> why so bloodthirsty? :)
[19:49] <kwwii> it's not my license anyway ;)
[19:49] <kwwii> and I don't think this is meant to point fingers at the "normal guy"
[19:49] <knome> thorwil, unwanted guests and i'm bunkering in the bedroom with two laptops
[19:50] <thorwil> lol
[19:51] <knome> and i'm hungry. and the only "food" is some stuff that smells worse than my dump on a hangover morning
[20:39] <darkham> no changes until act. 29?
[20:46] <mac_v> darkham: what changes?
[20:48] <darkham> changes about artwork
[21:02] <dashua> SiDi, Is the usplash mouse supposed to do anything other than fade?
[21:02] <dashua> The particles on xsplash are pretty sweet :)
[21:09] <SiDi> dashua: sometimes it eats cheese
[21:10] <SiDi> dashua: actually, its not meant to do anything. knome did that mouse
[21:10] <dashua> Ok cool
[21:10] <dashua> Everything is working good other than my multimedia keys sporadically working
[21:11] <dashua> I'm eating some cheese again ;)


[01:03] <rigel> hi
[01:03] <rigel> so i dont really use the ubuntu studio software all that much since installing it. is there an easy way to go back to the mainstream kernel, without removing all the studio software?
[01:04] <rigel> is it as simple as installing the appropriate kernel and/or kernel headers and booting into it?
[01:42] <asantoni> TheMuso: I've produced a Mixxx 1.8.0 package for Ubuntu http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=8484
[01:42] <asantoni> I updated the 1.7.2 one from universe and addressed the things I mentioned in the email
[12:17]  * MengXingHun is away: ^^^今天玩Linux游戏，暂不接客^^^^.....
[15:12] <ksou_> what are the names of some good music creation apps
[15:12] <ksou_> im using normal ubunut 10
[17:38] <holstein> hey ksou_
[17:38] <holstein> check out #opensourcemusicians
[17:39] <holstein> & http://wootangent.net/category/music/tutorials/


[12:19] <sm> is it just me, or does the ubuntu-doc list deliver kind of slowly ?
[12:34] <Burgundavia> seem to be getting it fine
[07:48] <froud> African Greetings. Another sunshine morning in Johannesburg
[07:55] <maskie> morning froud from a hot sticky cape town
[07:56] <froud> sunny but cool this morning, guess there are benefits to not having an ocean near.
[07:57] <maskie> at least i can go jump in the sea when it gets to hot ...
[07:58] <froud> I have a salt water swimming pool in the front yard
[07:58] <froud> but no wave machine
[07:58] <froud> and no white beach sand
[07:58] <froud> well that could be a blessing, the sand thing I mean
[07:59] <maskie> and the water is not as cold as in the sea here
[08:00] <froud> yes, so I found out. Thought I was never going to see my you know what again.
[08:01] <froud> Ah pool heating
[08:23] <maskie> unfortunately not all of us have the joys of dsl
[08:23] <froud> Ah that reminds me. What about the new packages telscum are doing
[08:23] <froud> they could be good for you
[08:23] <froud> Hmmm but then there is the cap
[08:39] <froud> Ho Hum. Does anyone care to review and close my last commits :-/ pretty please
[08:57] <froud> Anyone want to add ubuntu-docs to the release notes :-)
[09:02] <jeffsch> hi froud. I looked at your latest in quickguide
[09:02] <froud> ok
[09:02] <maskie> froud, problem with dsl is that on top of the adsl line cost you have to pay high ISP costs ... my ISDN dialup ISP costs at very low at the moment
[09:02] <froud> *our* latest quick guide
[09:03] <jeffsch> I don't feel qualified to convert from "review" to "complete"... spelling is ok though...
[09:03] <froud> US Spelling is good. Go for it
[09:03] <froud> any patches for grammar and spelling problems welcome
[09:04] <froud> not all contributors are doing spellchecks and most are not english speakers. so go for it
[09:04] <jeffsch> I am burning latest hoary disk... i boot it soon to see if and how new apps work... :-)
[09:04] <froud> do you have warty
[09:04] <froud> you can just upgrade online
[09:04] <froud> to hoary
[09:05] <froud> it's fatser and you can see the changes incrementally
[09:05] <jeffsch> yes, i have warty... how do i upgrade... using synaptic
[09:05] <froud> yes lemme get the uri's fo ryou
[09:07] <jeffsch> thanks
[09:13] <jeffsch> someday it would be nice to see a style guide for ubuntu docs
[09:13] <jeffsch> something similar to http://developer.gnome.org/documents/style-guide/
[09:17] <jeffsch> I am booting hoary on laptop, but don't want to install
[09:17] <jeffsch> how to run as live cd?
[09:18] <froud> install qemu
[09:18] <froud> sorry I had to step out now back
[09:18] <froud> yes, styleguide will develop in time
[09:18] <froud> here comes the info
[09:20] <venda> jeffsch, in synaptic select Settings > Repositories
[09:21] <venda> click add
[09:21] <venda> type = binary
[09:21] <venda> uri = http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[09:22] <venda> distribution = hoary
[09:22] <venda> sections = main restricted
[09:23] <venda> next
[09:23] <venda> add again
[09:23] <venda> this time
[09:23] <venda> type = source
[09:23] <venda> uri "as above"
[09:23] <venda> distribution = "as above"
[09:24] <venda> sections = "as above"
[09:24] <venda> next
[09:24] <venda> add again
[09:25] <venda> type binary
[09:25] <venda> uri = http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[09:25] <venda> distribution = hoary-security
[09:26] <venda> sections = main restricted
[09:26] <venda> next
[09:26] <venda> add again
[09:26] <venda> type source
[09:26] <venda> uri = http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[09:27] <venda> distribution = hoary-security
[09:27] <venda> sections = main restricted
[09:27] <venda> thats it
[09:28] <venda> oh remember to deselect warty
[09:28] <froud> jeffsch: hope that helps
[09:31] <froud> jeffsch: trickie is also looking for review of the release notes if you feel like doing it ;;;;;;-)
[09:33] <jeffsch> venda: done. so now i just select all upgradeable packages?
[09:33] <froud> jeffsch: yes
[09:34] <froud> btw. venda is me on another host
[09:34] <jeffsch> froud: i still irc newbie... when you say "here comes info" and then "hope this helps" ????
[09:35] <jeffsch> DOH!!! venda = froud!!!!
[09:35] <froud> after you have done the upgrade the Ubuntu Update Manager will do the rest for you
[09:35] <froud> you can configure the update-manager to download the updates for you but not install until you tell it to
[09:35] <froud> handy really
[09:36] <jeffsch> ok i do it now. wish me luck...
[09:36] <froud> every now and then I just run the update manager and see what it has for  me. Then I upgrade to the next step in hoary
[09:37] <jeffsch> that's what i've been doing with warty, but i didn't know until know how to get hoary.
[09:37] <jeffsch> thanks eh
[09:38] <froud> cool, you can also use update-manager to see the changlog of what happened on a package. That is how I check to see if anyting impacts on documentation we are doing
[09:40] <venda> for example the note "Added acpi-support to desktop-ia64" may add something to the desktop so I go looking to see once the ubuntu-desktop package is installed
[09:42] <froud> jeffsch: I do caution if you plan on using the same method post hoary release for grumpy. It is likely that the distro will, at first, become unstable during grumpy devel
[09:55] <jeffsch> hmmm... i try try to install hoary on my laptop, but it tells me that it will destroy existing partitions
[09:55] <jeffsch> am I missing something? surely it will install beside windows(spit)
[10:05] <abelli> jeffsch: have you tried to chose to partition the disk by yourself?
[10:09] <jeffsch> there is a choice: Erase entire disk, or Manually edit
[10:09] <jeffsch> I chose manually edit
[10:11] <jeffsch> DOH!!!
[10:11] <jeffsch> I missed something...
[10:12] <jeffsch> it didn't seem obvious to me which item on the list to select....
[10:12] <jeffsch> I chose the IDE1 master (hda) blah blah blah
[10:13] <jeffsch> instead of the  #1 primary blah blah blah, which is indented and not looking like its own selection... :(
[10:15] <jeffsch> ok. now i see "You are editing partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda). This partition is formatted with the ntfs"
[10:17] <jeffsch> Use as: do not use, Bootable flag: on, Size: 80.0 GB
[10:17] <jeffsch> how to partition? in warty install (IRC) it seemed obvious what to do, but now.... :(
[10:21] <jeffsch> froud: i will take a look at release notes by trickie after my hoary upgrade is complete
[10:29] <jeffsch> ok. that does it. I am not putting hoary on my laptop. I am too afraid it will destroy my existing partition
[10:57] <froud> jeffsch: does your partition take the whole disk
[10:57] <froud> the ntfs one
[10:57] <jeffsch> yes
[11:07] <froud> you can do a resize, but it can be risky
[11:08] <froud> no sur eif the hoary install does a resize safely I never tested it
[11:09] <jeffsch> i don't recall seeing a resize option. it only seemed that I could overwrite or not install
[11:10] <jeffsch> but I could be wrong - it is 2am afterall
[11:10] <froud> Hmm dunno really. My SuSE 9.2 it just does a resize for you
[11:10] <froud> best to do this type of thing with a clear head
[11:11] <froud> perhaps look for a tool that will help you resize the partition. Use that to do the work and then just install hoary to the new partition
[11:11] <froud> have you asked on #uubuntu
[11:12] <froud> #ubuntu
[11:14] <jeffsch> zoiks!!! a clear head!!!! too much trouble!!! hehe :-)
[11:15] <jeffsch> hoary update on main machine is progressing, but it keeps asking questions to which i don't know the answer
[11:15] <froud> what are the questions
[11:15] <froud> keyboard stuff
[11:16] <jeffsch> questions like "overwrite this conf file here,  or keep the original?"
[11:16] <froud> unless you have specific settings just overwrite
[11:16] <jeffsch> I don't know if the new file is essential for haory, or if it is essential for existing config
[11:17] <froud> if you have made changes to a config file then you should keep the original or you can redo the settings
[11:17] <jeffsch> too late. successfully did all changes. I will restart. wish me luck!
[11:29] <jeffsch> auughhhh!!! not good not good not good
[11:29] <jeffsch> only screen resolution available is 800x600
[11:48] <jeffsch> whew! got it fixed. I copied old cofig file over one installed by hoary upgrade
[11:49] <jeffsch> time for bed... see yall later
[11:49] <enrico> jeffsch: good night!
[12:14] <abelli> jeffsch: ciao
[12:14] <abelli> buona notte
[12:16] <froud> ello
[12:21] <abelli> froud: woza
[12:21] <froud> yebo
[12:31] <froud> sawubona abelli, gunjani wena. Funani
[12:32] <froud> Funani?
[05:10] <abelli> enrico: how would you translate Release Schedule?
[05:10] <abelli> froud: im sorry but today i havent been able to answer... i was missing a word
[05:10] <enrico> abelli: Piano per il rilascio?  ma  orrendo
[05:11] <abelli> enrico: yeah it is
[05:11] <abelli> :)
[05:11] <enrico> it pretty much depends on the context and the public
[05:11] <abelli> what about Programma.. mmm.. i'm translating the website
[05:17] <enrico> Programma delle Release
[05:18] <abelli> enrico: yeah thank you
[05:20] <abelli> what does "to end up in violent agreement" mean?
[05:22] <enrico> to agree *a lot* :)
[05:32] <abelli> ok
[05:32] <abelli> there's a mispelling in the License Policy page,
[05:32] <abelli> or at least i thing so
[05:35] <abelli> ...mmm well is "sustainably" english?
[05:38] <enrico> sustainable is, so sustainably looks like a good adverbization of it
[05:39] <enrico> "adverbization" probably doesn't exist, though :)
[05:39] <abelli> eheh:)
[06:15] <froud> enrico: abelli: there is no word "sustainably" in the English dictionary. However it is possible to use it as a term and may be used in colloquial speach.
[06:17] <abelli> it's the ubuntulinux.org website
[06:19] <froud> abelli: you have to give a uri, please
[06:19] <abelli> froud: sorry
[06:20] <abelli> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/licensing/document_view
[06:22] <froud> the tone of this para would qualify as colloquial so I would just add quotes around the word.
[07:19] <abelli> froud: what about "tipically"?
[07:20] <abelli> aint it typically?
[07:29] <abelli> ...another thing. i dont know if this is your duty or not..
[07:29] <abelli> but in some pages only "3 components" are listed..
[07:30] <abelli> in others, as i think it should be, multiverse is also cited
[08:05] <enrico> abelli: please make a list of the pages as you see them and post it in the list
[08:11] <abelli> yeas sorry


[08:20] <ristok> Can I have a .conf which contains just emits and start on ?
[08:21] <ristok> Is there an event which comes after startup has been done ?
[08:23] <ristok> If I have multiple emits in one file, will those come at the same time or one after another ?  Like can I expect that the scripts listening first emit are run before the ones listening the second emit ?
[08:23] <ristok> Or those are run simultaneously ?
[10:19] <twb> When translating a Debian start-stop-daemon(8)-style sysvinit script to an upstart job, is there any need to preserve pidfile support?
[10:20] <twb> I mean, AFAIK the sysvinit script only does it so start-stop-daemon can find the process again, to stop it


[08:27] <rickspencer3> gema, jibel sorry to be a dope, but I can't find my link to the automated boot time testing results :/
[08:29] <jibel> rickspencer3, http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/boot-speed/
[08:29] <jibel> and good morning and happy new year :)
[08:30] <rickspencer3> good morning jibel, and bonne année à vous ;)
[08:30] <rickspencer3> thanks for the link
[08:30] <jibel> yw
[14:55] <roadmr> salem_: hey!
[14:58] <salem_> roadmr, hey, so.. I have some questions regarding the new checkbox mockup. The welcome screen does not display the top menu, but the others screens have the top menu with the "welcome" item.
[14:58] <salem_> how is this supposed to work?
[14:59] <roadmr> salem_: let me have a look
[15:21] <roadmr> salem_: OK so if you click "run ubuntu friendly tests" on the welcome screen, you'd go to the screen in page 3, where you can't change the selected tests
[15:22] <roadmr> if you click "choose tests to run" you go to the screen in page 2, where you can check/uncheck the tests to run
[15:22] <roadmr> if you click the "welcome" button on either of those two screens, you'd go back to the "welcome" screen
[15:22] <roadmr> salem_: I think it would be sensible to grey out the "welcome" button if a test run is already underway
[15:23] <roadmr> the reason is that, from the "welcome" screen, I have no clear way of going back to an in-progress test session, so the user will think that clicking on either button will restart the test session
[15:23] <roadmr> salem_: another option would be, if there's a test session underway and I click on "welcome", a third button appears that would read "continue current testing session"
[15:24] <roadmr> salem_: hehe man, that was long-winded. I'll add this as comments in the document
[15:26] <salem_> roadmr, hm.. let me think about it a bit
[15:28] <roadmr> salem_: whichever is most intuitive for the user. We need a sort of way to go back and forth ("circulation" pattern I've seen it called)
[15:30] <salem_> roadmr, ok, perhaps the button asking to stop the tests is the best approach for now
[15:30] <roadmr> salem_: OK
[15:34] <roadmr> salem_: I just added a loooong comment to the document with the three options we discussed, see what people think about them.
[15:53] <salem_> roadmr, cool. thank you!
[15:55] <roadmr> salem_: heh thanks for helping!
[15:56] <salem_> roadmr, no problem.
[15:56] <salem_> roadmr, hey, "comment" button? wouldn't it be "welcome" button?
[15:57] <roadmr> salem_: hehe sorry! I just updated it. Lapsus brutus :)