[04:07] <BingO> blatz: sftp -Port=23<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:07] <flanders> Oh.
[04:07] <BingO> blatz: sftp -oPort=23<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:07] <flanders> I always wondered how that worked.
[04:08] <flanders> When you boot up with a different kernel, nothing changes, aside from the kernel you're using? You don't get reverted back to older software or packages?
[04:08] <raylu> Phrogz: i'd suggest aptitude -s purge lamp-server
[04:09] <Blatz> BingO I had tried "sftp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-oPort=23" that didn't work
[04:09] <Phrogz> raylu - thanks, I'll check that out.
[04:09] <cabrey> flanders, nothing changes except the currently running kernel
[04:09] <crdlb> flanders: just the kernel
[04:09] <bullgard4> '~$ ekiga -d 4 > ~/tmp/ekiga.log20090629' obtained a log of 0 bytes length because I terminated this command using the 'Ctrl+C' command. How to end it properly for a meaningful log contents?
[04:09] <flanders> And what about security updates? Aren't they kernel-dependent?
[04:09] <raylu> flanders: some of the packages are modules that depend on the kernel, so which ones get loaded change. but the rest of your software, no
[04:10] <cabrey> flanders, not necessarily
[04:10] <flanders> Alright.
[04:10] <flanders> Well, thanks again guys. Going to give this a try.
[04:10] <flanders> I am holding all of you liable! I will sue for any and all damages done by this!
[04:10] <flanders> I'll see you in court!
[04:10] <cabrey> ok
[04:10] <flanders> lol
[04:11] <Phrogz> raylu - Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "lamp-server";  and then it only says it will get rid of python-pkg-resources{u} python-setuptools{u}
[04:11] <flanders> But seriously, thanks. This is something I've been searching for, espcially for my new netbook.
[04:11] <flanders> Take care, all.
[04:11] <BingO> hmm..
[04:12] <BingO> Blatz.. wat about SCP .. did you check that ? hmm if SSH was working that SCP should work well
[04:12] <raylu> Phrogz: i don't really understand tasks, but tasksel may help you. i always install my software with just aptitude, so i don't really understand what installing a lamp-server did
[04:12] <raylu> BingO: it did
[04:12] <Phrogz> raylu - alright, thanks for the help
[04:12] <NY_163> ha
[04:13] <rww> Phrogz: sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[04:13] <Phrogz> raylu - tasksel ftw, thanks. FYI: tasksel -t remove lamp-server #=> debconf-apt-progress -- apt-get -q -y install apache2- libwrap0- mysql-server-core-5.0- mysql-client-5.0- tcpd- php5-mysql- libmysqlclient15off- mysql-server- mysql-server-5.0- libhtml-template-perl- ssl-cert- libpq5- mysql-common-
[04:13] <Phrogz> rww - close, I'm removing it :)
[04:13] <Blatz> thanks for your help raylu, bye
[04:14] <samorai> hi!
[04:14] <BingO> gone :)..
[04:14] <BingO> have go change port from 23 to any other.. may be
[04:14] <cabrey> !hi
[04:15] <samorai> I need help to delete 2 doc on my trash
[04:15] <samorai> so if I clic delete they not delete
[04:15] <BingO> samorai: go inside of trash and delete them..
[04:15] <BingO> samorai: what error it show ?
[04:16] <samorai> so I have'nt permission to delete it and I am administrator
[04:16] <Hasbro> samorai want to delete stuff?
[04:16] <Hasbro> do: cd / then type sudo rm -rf ./
[04:16] <Hasbro> will delete stuff for good
[04:17] <Hilikus> hey guys
[04:17] <the9a3eedi> Hi. Is the tracker indexer running by default in Ubuntu 9.04? and if so, how can I use it? I can't find any indexing options in the System menu.
[04:17] <BingO> samorai: which user you used for login ?
[04:17] <cabrey> !ops | Hasbro (sudo rm -rf)
[04:17] <mazda01> legend2440, thanks much!
[04:17] <samorai> Yes Bingo
[04:18] <bazhang> samorai, ignore that command
[04:18] <BingO> samorai:  you login in by root / pass ?
[04:18] <BingO> samorai: ignore that command otherwise all will get clean..
[04:18] <Hilikus> im trying to install ubuntu 9.01 remix in my netbook, i dled the latest img and created a bootable usb key using unetbootin, it seems to boot from it, it shows the ubuntu logo and the progrss bar moving, but once i select check the disk or run without installing it drops to "busybox"
[04:18] <legend2440> mazda01: your welcome
[04:18] <wolter> +
[04:18] <Hilikus> how can i install ubuntu then?
[04:18] <samorai> Yes I Log in bye root and pass to access on system
[04:18] <BingO> samorai: how did you delte that files ?
[04:18] <samorai> sorry for my english
[04:19] <veridat> how can I stream  mmsh?
[04:19] <BingO> samorai: no prob...
[04:19] <veridat> ?
[04:20] <BingO> samorai: right click at trash and clean trash
[04:20] <samorai> I dont want delete All doc in trash and  if I delete all I hav 2 doc and tey tell You hav'ent permission tu delete This 2 file
[04:20] <Hilikus> anyone?
[04:20] <veridat> can somebody help me?
[04:21] <BingO> samorai: why don't want to delete all .. and then why you put that docs in trash if you don't want to delet them ?
[04:21] <RequinB4> veridat: not if you don't ask a question
[04:21] <therussianjig>  if I try to boot my laptop while not connected to a power source, I must hold the spacebar down, or the boot will hang, any ideas how to fix this?
[04:21] <bullgard4> '~$ ekiga -d 4 > ~/tmp/ekiga.log20090629' obtained a log of 0 bytes length because I terminated this command using the 'Ctrl+C' command. How to end it properly for a meaningful log contents?
[04:22] <veridat> I`ll answer a question I already did  do you want to read it again?
[04:22] <BingO> samorai: ok .. NO prob... open terminal
[04:22] <voss> Has anyone run 9.04 on a sylvania gnet13001?
[04:22] <samorai> so really I want to delete All beacause I want to Clean the trash but I can't because 2 file need permission
[04:22] <samorai> Ok I open terminal
[04:22] <BingO> samorai: #pwd
[04:23] <BingO> what is result
[04:23] <samorai> /home/family
[04:23] <veridat> nothing
[04:23] <BingO> samorai.. prompt is # or $ ?
[04:24] <veridat> ~$
[04:24] <croddy> hi, how can i change my global fontconfig preferences to use either native hinting or the autohinter? this used to be a debconf option in fontconfig-config but it does not work as of 9.04.
[04:24] <BingO> Samorai: did you login by family username and its pass ?
[04:24] <legend2440> therussianjig: is this a HP?
[04:25] <veridat> positive
[04:25] <therussianjig> legend2440: yes it is
[04:25] <samorai> wat Bingo
[04:25] <veridat> what do you see
[04:25] <BingO> Samorai: ok .. type $ sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/*
[04:26] <legend2440> therussianjig: these posts are about your issue. post #13 says he fixed it  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=967679&page=2
[04:26] <bastidrazor> !trash
[04:26] <Hilikus> im trying to install ubuntu 9.01 remix in my netbook, i dled the latest img and created a bootable usb key using unetbootin, it seems to boot from it, it shows the ubuntu logo and the progrss bar moving, but once i select check the disk or run without installing it drops to "busybox"
[04:26] <veridat> not found
[04:27] <cabrey> Hilikus, you don't use unetbootin for an img file
[04:27] <Hilikus> cabrey: oooh
[04:27] <BingO> samorai: which ubuntu version r u using ?
[04:27] <therussianjig> legend2440: thanks!
[04:27] <sambagirl> can ubuntu run on this platform? http://www.ncac.gwu.edu/hpcl/comp_lab01.jpeg
[04:27] <veridat> gnome
[04:27] <Hilikus> cabrey: any suggestions then?
[04:27] <Hilikus> i need to do it from windows
[04:27] <cabrey> Hilikus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles
[04:28] <sambagirl> hilikus what are you tryng to do?
[04:28] <Hilikus> install ubuntu
[04:28] <sambagirl> use wube if you are trying to install ubuntu in windows
[04:28] <BingO> sambagirl: these are looking nice RACS.. which hardware is inside ? :)
[04:28] <sambagirl> download wube and put the iso on the desktop
[04:28] <sambagirl> sgi
[04:28] <veridat> I only want to stream live tv channels
[04:28] <samorai> xubuntu 8
[04:28] <Hilikus> sambagirl: i dont want to run it in a windiows partition
[04:28] <cabrey> sambagirl, that isn't what he is trying to do
[04:28] <sambagirl> binb0
[04:28] <sambagirl> oh cabrey
[04:29] <cabrey> Hilikus, have you looked at the provided link?
[04:29] <samorai> No Ubuntu 9.4 I use
[04:29] <Hilikus> cabrey: yes. that was probablt the problem, im pretty sure i'll work now
[04:29] <veridat> maybe vlc is blocking it?
[04:29] <bastidrazor> samorai, in terminal type lsb_release -a ..what does that give you?
[04:29] <sambagirl> http://images.google.com/images?pws=0&q=cray%20computers&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi look at those
[04:29] <nhacxo> alguien gusta charlar?
[04:30] <BingO> samorai type $ cd .Trash  or $cd shared/trash
[04:30] <veridat> jaunty
[04:30] <samorai> Bing0 lsb_release -a
[04:30] <Mkop> why is it that sometimes certain programs will only start if I select run from terminal?
[04:30] <samorai> Junty
[04:30] <BingO> $rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[04:31] <BingO> samorai: type this command..
[04:31] <sambagirl> can ubuntu run on this? http://www.craysupercomputers.com/images/Systems/CrayXMP/CrayXMP_Feathered.jpg
[04:31] <veridat> are you trying to hack me
[04:31] <jcapinc> Mkop, your question lacks enough specificity to answer it
[04:31] <samorai> Ok I have Non doc ....
[04:31] <Phrogz> sambagirl - yes.
[04:31] <Phrogz> But it needs some patches.
[04:31] <BingO> samba girl.. these are looking sofas :D
[04:31] <sambagirl> wow phrogz
[04:31] <BingO> samorai: means ?
[04:32] <Mkop> jcapinc: when I hit Alt-F2 and type rdesktop -f -u someserver it's not showing up. But when I click "Run in Terminal" then it works
[04:32] <sambagirl> what kind of patches phrogz?
[04:33] <samorai> bash: cd: shared/trash: No file or doc for this type
[04:33] <Phrogz> sambagirl - I have no idea. But anything is possible given sufficient time and programming effort :)
[04:33] <sambagirl> i suppose
[04:33] <bullgard4> '~$ ekiga -d 4 > ~/tmp/ekiga.log20090629' obtained a log of 0 bytes length because I terminated this command using the 'Ctrl+C' command. How to end it properly for a meaningful log contents?
[04:33] <BingO> samorai: $rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[04:33] <sambagirl> it makes you wonder what the nsa has today?
[04:33] <donaldo_> hello
[04:33] <donaldo_> hola no hablo ingles
[04:34] <cabrey> !es
[04:34] <nhacxo> gustas charlar?
[04:34] <donaldo_> pero quisiera que me ayudaran con el siguiente error
[04:34] <sambagirl> that is a cray cpu? http://farm1.static.flickr.com/137/352805077_07933620cb.jpg?v=0
[04:34] <Phrogz> One of my CS professors in college told me a story about cray that I now wonder if it is true. That at one point the computers were all clockless, with the timing done by the appropriate length of fiber-optic cable. Differnt lengths to delay the signal the right amount to coordinate results.
[04:34] <donaldo_> en español nadie me brindo su ayuda
[04:34] <Hilikus> has anyone used win32 disk imager? does anyone know if it will wipe the usb key or not?
[04:34] <nhacxo> si no te puedo ayudar conozco a alguien,,,
[04:35] <Phrogz> That little old ladies were hired to build the machines because they provided the best attention to detail, picking the correct fiber optic cable length as specced during assembly.
[04:35] <cabrey> Hilikus, it will i think...
[04:35] <samorai> files is in trash sniff
[04:35] <donaldo_> synaptic no me abre la opcion de repositorios y en la consola me arroja el siguiente error http://paste.ubuntu.com/205976/
[04:35] <BingO> samorai: now its trash has clean up ?
[04:35] <sambagirl> i bet this is a big electric bill http://echelonathome.com/craymuseum.jpg
[04:35] <samorai> Non
[04:35] <samorai> no
[04:35] <veridat> I need tot type it?
[04:35] <jcapinc> uh... isnt this an english channel?
[04:36] <BingO> samoria: did that command gave any error message ?
[04:36] <cabrey> jcapinc, yea
[04:36] <nhacxo> !es
[04:36] <iamabanana> jcapinc that´s what i was wondering
[04:36] <samorai> No no error on command
[04:36] <BingO> samorai: now type this $sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[04:36] <bullgard4> jcapinc: Please read the topic
[04:36] <veridat> dislects
[04:37] <BingO> samorai:  $sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[04:37] <donaldo_> ubottu: en esos canales no encontre ninguna ayuda
[04:37] <donaldo_> bueno sera google translator
[04:37] <cabrey> donaldo_, /join #ubuntu-es
[04:38] <jcapinc> bullgard4, I see no specificity about language, is that what you are refering to?
[04:38] <samorai> Yeah is clean Now
[04:38] <samorai> Thansk bing0
[04:38] <BingO> samorai :.. Good.. best of luck
[04:38] <donaldo_> nhacxo: me puedes ayudar o dar un link donde resuelvan este asunto?
[04:38] <supreme> donaldo_, hablo español
[04:38] <BingO> samorai: sorry for late.. actualy i am not using Ubuntu :P..
[04:39] <bullgard4> jcapinc: The topic is written in the English language.
[04:39] <jcapinc> right, ok
[04:39] <RequinB4> donaldo que es su problema
[04:39] <BingO> samorai: most welcome again ... if you need tution then i can give you :)
[04:39] <samorai> (-_-) Why? you use what ?
[04:39] <donaldo_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/205976/
[04:39] <bazhang> RequinB4, donaldo_ English here please
[04:39] <jcapinc> so speako el englisho or findo another channelo
[04:39] <iamabanana> well, the us is meant to become a hispanic country anyways... get used to it ;)
[04:39] <cabrey> oh wow
[04:39] <BingO> ah leav it
[04:40] <Apollo2366> jcapinc, please try to be civil
[04:40] <BingO> samorai: any more prob ?
[04:40] <donaldo_> cuando abro el synaptic y trato de abrir la opcion repositorios me sale ese mensaje de error
[04:40] <veridat> yeah its one big world
[04:40] <cabrey> iamabanana, ... ignorant enough?
[04:40] <jcapinc> I am being civil, lol
[04:40] <hermitmode> kinsay bisdak mag patabang ko agto sa #ubuntu-ph
[04:40] <supreme> donaldo_, which error? (cual error?)
[04:40] <TheRiLi> hello
[04:40] <jcapinc> and if you ever get to new england, you will see things differently about the US becoming hispanic
[04:40] <veridat> elfish
[04:40] <donaldo_> este http://paste.ubuntu.com/205976/
[04:40] <bazhang> donaldo_, english here #ubuntu-es por espanol
[04:40] <Apollo2366> jcapinc, well try not to degrade someone on the basis of what language they speak
[04:40] <samorai> thanks You a best help  so i am Happy (-_-) bing0 Is the best
[04:40] <TheRiLi> hello all
[04:40] <iamabanana> ;P
[04:41] <TheRiLi> i am her
[04:41] <BingO> samarai: i meant i was only telling my Guess ..
[04:41] <BingO> samorai: you are also best.. becoz now you have clean your trash .. good boy :) or gurl ?
[04:41] <jcapinc> Apollo2366, I am not degrading anyone, I am not against other languages, I dont like being kept in the dark, it is not fair to either party to get on an english channal and start speaking spanish
[04:41] <jcapinc> so they should find another channel or private chat
[04:41] <TheRiLi> exit
[04:41] <samorai> yo boy ;)
[04:42] <jcapinc> I cannot imagine that there is not spanish freenode channels
[04:42] <BingO> haha
[04:42] <cabrey> TheRiLi, /quit
[04:42] <bazhang> please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:42] <jcapinc> or whichever language they speek
[04:42] <supreme> donaldo_, people is right, lets go to ubuntu-es channel
[04:42] <jcapinc> apologize, conversation is over
[04:42] <supreme> here the language is english
[04:42] <veridat> international speaking
[04:42] <Apollo2366> jcapinc, I'm not concerned with your message so much as your tone. Adding an "o" at the end of english words is considered offensive, so just try to be curteous :)
[04:43] <samorai> lol bing0 my problm sometime is coding I use this only 3 week
[04:43] <veridat> where can I find news reports
[04:43] <Apollo2366> that's all I'm saying
[04:43] <samorai> command i say
[04:43] <donaldo_> este no es pues ubuntu internacional?
[04:43] <jcapinc> Apollo2366, I guess you are right, I was just having a moment
[04:43] <samorai> so I move
[04:43] <causasui> adding 'o' at the end of words is offensive? why?
[04:43] <Gnea> !es
[04:43] <supreme> hahhahaah
[04:43] <cabrey> Apollo2366, but it is also offensive and ignorant for people to start speaking different languages in a one language room :/
[04:43] <supreme> adding o xD
[04:43] <iamabanana> any problemo?
[04:43] <aquachica> Este canal es para la gente que hablan ingles.  Sigue a #ubuntu-es
[04:44] <jcapinc> Gnea, lol thats awsome!
[04:44] <samorai> bye all
[04:44] <veridat> double oo
[04:44] <supreme> ahaahahaaha so funny adding o at the end of words to talk in spanish
[04:44] <veridat> supremo
[04:44] <supreme> my main language is spanish btw
[04:44] <donaldo_> les molesta que hable español?
[04:44] <supreme> xd
[04:44] <Gnea> jcapinc: well, the discussion seems to have gotten a bit offtopic
[04:44] <veridat> spanish is interesting
[04:44] <bazhang> donaldo_, please stop
[04:45]  * cabrey facepalms
[04:45] <aquachica> Aqui, si.  No se por que, pero mejor sigue a #ubuntu-es.
[04:45] <veridat> ronaldo?
[04:45] <bazhang> veridat, #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:45] <jaypro> best ftp server software with gui?
[04:45]  * jcapinc notices bazhang, and gnue trying to fix a trainwreck
[04:45] <veridat> stoned topics aight
[04:45] <supreme> stop talk in english for god's sake!
[04:46] <cabrey> jaypro, learn from a another sysadmin :/
[04:46] <supreme> haha
[04:46] <jaypro> lol
[04:46] <Gnea> jaypro: a gui for an ftp server?
[04:46] <jaypro> ive set one up before, but i figured it would be quicker if i saw one with a gui
[04:47] <supreme> oh, btw, adding an "o" at the end of english words is NOT considered offensive by people who talks spanish
[04:47] <supreme> its stupid to consider offensive that
[04:47] <bazhang> supreme, please take chat elsewhere
[04:48] <Gnea> jaypro: well, there is a gadmin-proftpd
[04:48] <iamabanana> it's considered stupid.
[04:48] <LargePrime> Greetings.  Got a strange Problem.  Firefox spell checker is the issue.  Upon a misspelled word, If the right click KEY is pressed FF does not suggest a word.  If the MOUSE is Right Clicked on the word, it suggests a word.  The FF guys are wondering if it is a "Ubuntu Customization" Issue.  Any Ideas?
[04:48] <cabrey> !ebox | jaypro
[04:48] <Gnea> cabrey: forgot about ebox :)
[04:48] <sambagirl> ebox rocks
[04:48] <cabrey> >_<
[04:48] <sambagirl> ebox is excellent
[04:48] <sambagirl> i use it
[04:48] <sambagirl> it works
[04:48] <FloodBot2> sambagirl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <jaypro> sweet! thanks!
[04:51] <supreme> i have a problem with synaptic: when i open synaptic and try to open the repositories option i get a error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/205976/
[04:53] <supreme> im trying to find a solution unsuccessfully
[04:53] <cabrey> supreme, submit a bug report, that is a traceback
[04:55] <Gnea> supreme: how are you running synaptic? from a menu?
[04:55] <raylu> jaypro: also, why do you need ftp?
[04:55] <supreme> do i report a bug with "ubuntu-bug synaptic" right?
[04:55] <freedumMan> is it possible to make a jailed ssh upload with certain chmod permissions
[04:55] <stroyan> supreme: That looks a lot like  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/364092
[04:56] <cabrey> supreme, already submitted go and add yourself to the people affected
[04:57] <cabrey> thanks stroyan
[04:57] <supreme> thanks, im checking stroyan solution
[04:57] <bullgard4> '~$ ekiga -d 4 > ~/tmp/ekiga.log20090629' obtained a log of 0 bytes length because I terminated this command using the 'Ctrl+C' command. How to end it properly for a log content >0?
[04:57] <jaypro> raylu: why? just for the basic reasons why anyone would want an ftp server... transfer files
[04:58] <tntc> hey, what package contains the actual drivers for sound?
[04:58] <tntc> the snd-hda-intel driver specifically
[04:58] <raylu> jaypro: but ftp is insecure. passwords are transmitted in cleartext
[04:58] <raylu> jaypro: consider scp/sftp
[04:58] <Dday> How do i check if my songbird is a .deb?
[04:59] <jaypro> raylu oh i read someplace scp is not that great for transferring multiple files at once... that not true?
[05:00] <raylu> jaypro: m...not that i know of. i use it all the time
[05:00] <dragon_> jaypro: i strongly doubt that statement.
[05:00] <dragon_> jaypro: i'd prefer rsync though.
[05:00] <raylu> jaypro: on my lan, i use ftp because it's a bit faster and i'm not worried about security internally
[05:00] <jaypro> hrmm...
[05:00] <zx6renvy> hey everyone
[05:00] <brokenframe> hey, does someone know of any easy-to-use program to set up an ssh server?
[05:00] <jaypro> well, also i need to deal with macs and windows... so that kind throws out scp anyways
[05:01] <dragon_> brokenframe: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:01] <mobi-sheep> !ssh | brokenframe
[05:01] <jaypro> unless you guys know of a program that would work
[05:01] <brokenframe> !ssh
[05:01] <zx6renvy> couldnt tell ya jaypro, never needed to do that
[05:01] <brokenframe> hm
[05:01] <bastidrazor> jaypro, ssh for mac and winscp for windows
[05:02] <brokenframe> k that was fast, thanks
[05:02] <dragon_> jaypro: there is an ssh server for windows called WinSSHD. Check out the bitvise tunnelier's website for details.
[05:02] <parker> Test connection.
[05:03] <dragon_> parker: Test failed.
[05:03] <dragon_> :P
[05:03] <lecram_wise> hey
[05:03] <dragon_> lecram_wise: hey buddy
[05:03] <Mitsunari> Let's pose this question here as well... I recently (read: last night) installed Ubuntu Studio on my Parckard Bell Easynote r4350. Everything else seems to be in order, except for the volume control hotkeys. Pressing once seems to get them stuck, ie. firing off continuously. In addition, this makes me unable to click anything on the gui itself, including the start-menu. However, the buttons work on launched programs such as Pidgin or Mo
[05:03] <dragon_> haha parker actually believed what i said.
[05:03] <raylu> jaypro: also, filezilla for windows
[05:03] <raylu> jaypro: and psftp/pscp
[05:03] <dragon_> !volume
[05:04] <dragon_> err
[05:04] <Mitsunari> !volume
[05:04] <jaypro> oh wow! okay cool... thanks everyone
[05:04] <dragon_> !hotkeys | Mitsunari
[05:04] <LargePrime> Greetings.  Got a strange Problem.  Firefox spell checker is the issue.  Upon a misspelled word, If the right click KEY is pressed FF does not suggest a word.  If the MOUSE is Right Clicked on the word, it suggests a word.  The FF guys are wondering if it is a "Ubuntu Customization" Issue.  Any Ideas?
[05:05] <raylu> LargePrime: right-click key? the thing between right-alt and right-ctrl?
[05:05] <zx6renvy> what version do you have?
[05:05] <dragon_> LargePrime: possibly Ubuntu isn't firing an event that would have been fired otherwise.
[05:05] <dragon_> LargePrime: tried disabling "Ubuntu Modification Pack" plugin in Firefox?
[05:06] <LargePrime> raylu: yep zx6renvy 8.10 dragon_ I will now
[05:06] <AceBlade159> i am tryin to install ubuntu on a machine using an  nForce 4 Ultra AMD chipset and i can't get it to see my hard drives on an alternate install (my video card will not allow me to boot a live cd)\
[05:07] <sergey_> всем привет
[05:07] <LargePrime> reboothing FF
[05:07] <raylu> LargePrime: the thing is, that key isn't a right-click key...
[05:07] <cabrey> !ru | sergey_
[05:07] <bazhang> sergey_, #ubuntu-ru
[05:07] <AceBlade159> i was able to see the drives on a live cd on an older VC
[05:07] <bullgard4> sergey_: Hello!
[05:07] <unitheory> hello, i have a "Blank CD-R Disc" icon on my desktop but there's no blank disc in my drive. how to I fix it?
[05:07] <LargePrime> shift f10 key
[05:08] <LargePrime> raylu:
[05:08] <raylu> LargePrime: huh?
[05:08] <sergey_> nicht feschteje
[05:08] <LargePrime> but it acts as
[05:08] <dragon_> cabrey: how did you know that was russian? o.O
[05:08] <cabrey> dragon_, magic :P no look at the host
[05:08] <sergey_> guten tag ? mei liebe freund
[05:08] <LargePrime> raylu: the menu (Shift f10) key is the proper name I think
[05:08] <raylu> LargePrime: !de | sergey_
[05:08] <dragon_> cabrey: ah cool
[05:08] <raylu> oops.
[05:09] <raylu> !de | sergey_
[05:09] <bazhang> sergey_, English here only
[05:09] <AceBlade159> anybody have any ideas?
[05:09] <raylu> LargePrime: indeed, it's a menu key
[05:09] <SirMoo> APT-GET Install error... "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource Temporarily unavailable) - What do I do? I got this after trying to install apt-get sun-java, then I got a liscnese page and it did not allow me to do anything else.
[05:09] <LargePrime> it pops the right click menu
[05:09] <cabrey> SirMoo, one package manager opened at a time
[05:10] <LargePrime> OK restarted FF with Ubuntu Mod disabled.  same
[05:10] <myxo> why does it seem like all of the .iso's i download say they are too large for the burnable CD's i have? =(
[05:10] <SirMoo> cabrey, thats not my main problem, just one at the moment. D=
[05:11] <SirMoo> Mmkay, package manager closed and I'm still getting it.
[05:11] <dragon_> LargePrime: then it's not Ubuntu's modifications causing trouble, possibly.
[05:11] <unitheory> so no one knows how to eject a disc that doesn't exist but gnome thinks it does?
[05:11] <LargePrime> heh
[05:11] <LargePrime> F guys blame Ubuntu
[05:11] <raylu> LargePrime: ...obviously. the issue is that the menu key opens the menu for the ui element that currently has focus, which is a textbox
[05:11] <SirMoo> How do I tell the java install to stop, I've tried restarting, but that achived nothing.
[05:11] <LargePrime> not the word
[05:11] <raylu> LargePrime: which is completely working as intended. the menu key is not a replacement for right-click
[05:11] <LargePrime> it is generally.  did you try it
[05:11] <AceBlade159> any help please? i'm desperate
[05:11] <cabrey> unitheory, that version of ubuntu?
[05:12] <unitheory> cabrey, what version? 9.04
[05:12] <raylu> AceBlade159: i'm not sure how the alternate install works. can you get a shell?
[05:12] <myxo> has anyone else ever had the issue of having CD's that their computer tells them are too small to burn iso's specifically designed for CDs?
[05:12] <cabrey> unitheory, yea sorry have you tried logging out/back in?
[05:12] <badboy_> hi all
[05:12] <AceBlade159> i beleive i can
[05:13] <dragon_> !ask | AceBlade159
[05:13] <unitheory> cabrey, i was hoping not to have to resort to that sort of thing..
[05:13] <badboy_> anyone speak portuguese ?
[05:13] <raylu> AceBlade159: ok, do so and run "sudo fdisk -l"
[05:13] <bazhang> !pt | badboy_
[05:13] <dragon_> oh you asked already.. had to scroll long way back.
[05:14] <sdeb> hi , is it possible to install ubuntu from source like gentoo ?
[05:14] <raylu> sdeb: you mean install ubuntu packages from source like gentoo? no
[05:14] <bullgard4> sdeb: Not advisable: Too much work.
[05:14] <badboy_> ty
[05:15] <sdeb> raylu: no imean install the whole system
[05:15] <raylu> sdeb: it's not like you can install all of gentoo from source either
[05:15]  * SirMoo pouts.
[05:15] <SirMoo> No help to as why I can't install things?
[05:16] <sdeb> bullgard4: i know , but i want system under control
[05:16] <stroyan> sdeb: You can get source and rebuild it using "apt-get source package; apt-get builddep package; debuild"
[05:16] <sdeb> my*
[05:16] <elli> hai
[05:16] <raylu> SirMoo: what package manager were you using?
[05:16] <unitheory> cabrey, are you contemplating a solution or should i just restart? :[
[05:16] <SirMoo> I was using sudo apt-get on Kubuntu. (I'd try their irc, but hardly anyone is around. )
[05:16] <cabrey> unitheory, try logging out then back in first
[05:16] <sdeb> stroyan: even the base package ?
[05:16] <AceBlade159> i have a regular cd, how would i get to the shell from there
[05:16] <raylu> SirMoo: pgrep -l apt-get
[05:17] <badboy_> can anybarry help me i dont have audio im my pc and i'm dont know how use commands
[05:17] <raylu> AceBlade159: on a non-alternate install cd, applications > accessories > terminal or alt+f2, gnome-terminal
[05:17] <SirMoo> Rylu: 3848 apt-get
[05:17] <raylu> SirMoo: do you still have that open somewhere, by any chance?
[05:18] <stroyan> sdeb: I just build packages that I want to tweak or debug.  I haven't tried rebuilding every single package.  Why would you want to?
[05:18] <SirMoo> Raylu, How? I've restarted my computer twice since then.
[05:18] <raylu> SirMoo: then apt-get wouldn't be running
[05:18] <raylu> SirMoo: or, at least, the apt-get that you ran two restarts ago wouldn't
[05:18] <SirMoo> Yes, but now I can't install anything. D=
[05:18] <bullgard4> sdeb: You cannot have every detail "under control" in Linux because your livespan will not extend over 100 years. Try to focus on the important things and not on every detail.
[05:19] <sdeb> stroyan: to learn everything , and to the full control
[05:19] <raylu> SirMoo: yes, but figure out why apt-get is running now
[05:19] <SirMoo> Raylu, thats why I'm confused. It should not be running... and no windows are open other then the terminal.
[05:19] <sdeb> bullgard4: you right , but i will enjoy for that :)
[05:19] <bullgard4> sdeb: s/livespan/lifespan/
[05:20] <stroyan> sdeb: "everything" keeps getting bigger and bigger. ;-)
[05:20] <raylu> SirMoo: it could be some automatic update checker
[05:20] <AceBlade159> anyway to get to terminal without a gui enviroment? i can't boot a live cd because of my graphics card
[05:20] <cabrey> AceBlade159, safe graphics mode
[05:20] <raylu> SirMoo: try running pgrep again, see if it's still running now
[05:20] <badboy_> anyone know how make audio in my asus A7K
[05:20] <cabrey> AceBlade159, F4 or F6 on livecd
[05:20] <AceBlade159> thanks
[05:20] <cirabisi> hkello everyone
[05:20] <RequinB4> AceBlade: safe graphics mode, or if you can't do that install with an alt cd and go from there
[05:20] <farooq>  /join #rubyonrails
[05:20] <badboy_> hello cirabisi
[05:20] <cirabisi> could i get some help?
[05:21] <cabrey> !ask
[05:21] <bullgard4> !sound | badboy_
[05:21] <SirMoo> Yup. Still running, Raylu.
[05:21] <raylu> SirMoo: i suppose you could just "sudo kill 3848"
[05:21] <cirabisi> lol
[05:21] <SirMoo> I shall try.
[05:22] <cirabisi> well i want to make a usb startup/boot disc but i dont have a live cd, i used wubi, and i dont know where to find the .iso, im in xubuntu
[05:22] <sdeb> ok , another question , anaconda is powerfull installer , why ubuntu is not use it ?
[05:22] <SirMoo> This all came from trying to install sun-java. It would not allow me to do anything after, and just had a liscnese and said OK at the bottom.
[05:22] <raylu> SirMoo: you have to use the arrow keys or tab to accept it
[05:22] <bazhang> sdeb, a good question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:23] <raylu> SirMoo: there was a bug in older versions of ubuntu that didn't allow the user to accept it, but it's been fixed since then
[05:23] <cirabisi> .
[05:23] <SirMoo> This is the most modern version of Kubuntu.
[05:24] <cirabisi> ???
[05:24] <raylu> cirabisi: wait, what does being on wubi have to do with this? if you haven't yet downloaded an iso, i suggest getting yourself a copy of unetbootin and proceeding from there
[05:24] <unitheory> cirabisi, you need either an .iso or a livecd
[05:24] <cirabisi> ok.
[05:24] <sdeb> bazhang: this not off topic ,
[05:25] <cirabisi> is this only for help? just curious, got on cuz im bored and wanted to talk :P
[05:25] <AceBlade159> just ran "sudo fdisk -l nothing happened
[05:25] <bazhang> cirabisi, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[05:25] <raylu> AceBlade159: where'd you run this command?
[05:25] <cirabisi> ty
[05:26] <AceBlade159> terminal
[05:26] <raylu> AceBlade159: could you be more specific?
[05:26] <sdeb> AceBlade159: parted is more friendly : sudo parted -l /dev/sda
[05:27] <AceBlade159> raylu: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[05:27] <AceBlade159> sdeb: i'll try that thanks
[05:27] <raylu> AceBlade159: i'm guessing you're using safe graphics mode?
[05:27] <AceBlade159> indeed
[05:28] <sdeb> i love ubuntu , can i have a cloak ?
[05:28] <bazhang> !cloak > sdeb
[05:28] <Efrain> lol
[05:28] <maxagaz> how to set a new hostname of a computer using command line ?
[05:28] <andi> fuck
[05:28] <lstarnes> !hostname | maxagaz
[05:28] <supreme> !cloak
[05:29] <sdeb> bazhang: checking
[05:29] <maxagaz> lstarnes, thanks
[05:29] <bReakmYfaLL> Hello when is irssi 0.8.13 going to be added on repositry
[05:29] <bazhang> sdeb, help in #freenode
[05:29] <AceBlade159> sdb: response 'Usage: parted [hlmsv] [DEVICE [COMMAND [PARAMETERS]]...]'
[05:30] <unitheory> bReakmYfaLL, only major bug fixes or security updates are added to the repos. otherwise you have to wait for the next ubuntu release
[05:30] <lstarnes> bReakmYfaLL: it should be there in 9.10
[05:30] <sdeb> AceBlade159: sudo parted -l
[05:30] <AceBlade159> oh, oops
[05:31] <bazhang> sdeb, parted is not for that
[05:31] <bReakmYfaLL> ohi tried to cofigure from source but i got this error configure: error: GLIB is required to build irssi.
[05:31] <bReakmYfaLL> But i have GLIB
[05:31] <lstarnes> bReakmYfaLL: but not the -dev packages
[05:32] <sdeb> bazhang: so for what ?
[05:32] <ctmjr> AceBlade159: looking at what you ran  "sudo fdisk -l you need to remove the " from in front off sudo
[05:32] <bReakmYfaLL> is it libglibc-dev
[05:32] <AceBlade159> unable to open read-write... opend as read only
[05:32] <bReakmYfaLL> or is it libglib-dev
[05:32] <reduz> hey guys, is it possible to remove alsa/pulseaudio/etc from ubuntu and install 4front OSS ?
[05:32] <bazhang> AceBlade159, use sudo fdisk -l not parted
[05:32] <causasui> Can someone here help me set up pureftpd?
[05:32] <AceBlade159> i used "" to seperate my command from the rest of my text
[05:33] <lstarnes> bReakmYfaLL: libglib2.0-dev
[05:33] <AceBlade159> and nothing is seeing the disks
[05:33] <bazhang> AceBlade159, no quotes
[05:33] <AceBlade159> they are sata
[05:34] <AceBlade159> bazhang: i know, i'm pretty good with windows, i'm trying to learn more linux
[05:34] <stroyan> bReakmYfaLL: You can use "sudo apt-get build-dep irssi" to get the build dependency packages for the current irssi package.
[05:34] <donaldo> hello
[05:34] <bReakmYfaLL> i am sorry but what is that
[05:34] <bReakmYfaLL> :s
[05:35] <lstarnes> bReakmYfaLL: that will install the packages needed to build irssi
[05:35] <AceBlade159> any special drivers i have to load for my chipset? (nVidia NF4Ultra)
[05:35] <bReakmYfaLL> for the latest version 0.8.13?
[05:35] <ctmjr> reduz yes go to their web site they have a how to
[05:35] <lstarnes> bReakmYfaLL: or at least the version in the repos
[05:35] <lstarnes> bReakmYfaLL: the dependencies for 0.8.13 are probably the same or similar to 0.8.12
[05:35] <reduz> ctmjr, but does it work?
[05:35] <stroyan> bReakmYfaLL: The dependency data is for the version in the repos.  But it probably has not changed in the next version.
[05:36] <bReakmYfaLL> i c
[05:36] <bReakmYfaLL> let me try
[05:36] <pvh_sa> heya... i've got an ubuntu 9.04 machine that keeps rebooting spontaneously but seemingly only when transmission is running. nothing in the logs - is there some way i can get a crash dump or something so i know why its rebooting?
[05:37] <ctmjr> reduz: it works for me on intrepid with intel on board sound you need to check the compatibility list
[05:37] <sdeb> bazhang: are kidding me , check output : http://pastebin.com/d366c59d0
[05:37] <largeprime> hey
[05:39] <unitheory> pvh_sa, transmission is rather lacking in features, is using another bittorrent client an option?
[05:40] <pvh_sa> unitheory, i really don't think the bittorrent client is the source of my reboots - its triggering something else which is causing kernel panics... just want to know if there is some kind of "crash dump saving" feature in linux/ubuntu
[05:41] <largeprime> OK so my problem is with FF on Ubutu.  the menu shift f10 key is not suggesting misspelled words in a text box in FF
[05:42] <julian__> hey all!!!
[05:42] <unitheory> pvh_sa, i would suggest another client first. but there are plenty of logs you can view in system > administration > log file viewer
[05:42] <julian__> some knows how to install KDE 3.5 on 9.04???????????????
[05:42] <flanders> How can I create a script that runs upon bootup (even before a user logs into a session) that requires root privileges?
[05:42] <rww> !startup | flanders
[05:43] <Galaxor> So, I've just moved to Jaunty.  For some reason now, my wireless doesn't work unless the network-manager is running.  Which means I can't get on the internet when X11 isn't running.  I do all the things I used to do:  iwconfig wlan0 essid blah, dhclient wlan0.  iwconfig always says that it's "Not Associated" with the AP, and the log always says "associated" then "disassociated by local choice (reason=3)" immediately.
[05:43] <flanders> ubottu: I want it to start before a user logs into a session.
[05:43] <Galaxor> What happened?
[05:43] <rww> !boot | flanders
[05:43] <rww> flanders: (sorry !startup was the wrong one)
[05:43] <julian__> someone knows how to install KDE 3.5 on 9.04???***
[05:43] <flanders> It's cool.
[05:43] <rww> julian__: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[05:44] <R_YoYo_R> julian__, there is a guide somewhere
[05:44] <stroyan> pvh_sa: You could explore kdump as provided by the kexec-tools package.  But I don't see a how-to on that with a few google searches.
[05:44] <AceBlade159> i am tryin to install ubuntu on a machine using an  nForce 4 Ultra AMD chipset and i can't get it to see my hard drives
[05:44] <rww> julian__: I think there's a process for installing it on an existing Jaunty install somewhere, too, but I can't seem to find it.
[05:45] <Galaxor> I don't know how to get more debugging info from the wireless driver.  Is there something I can cat to a file in /sys or something?
[05:45] <AceBlade159> some help please
[05:45] <bReakmYfaLL> hi if i install irssi from source will it overwrite my .irssi folder
[05:45] <R_YoYo_R> bReakmYfaLL, backup first?
[05:46] <bReakmYfaLL> oie
[05:46] <bReakmYfaLL> okie*
[05:46] <unitheory> bReakmYfaLL, it shouldn't
[05:46] <rww> bReakmYfaLL: it's possible that the new version of irssi uses incompatible settings, so I'd back it up first if I were you.
[05:46] <aaqil> how to give a clear, cute fonts etc look to my firefox as it is in windows
[05:46] <julian__> rww: thanx
[05:47] <startbox> Hey Guys! is there anyway I could get a syslog server?
[05:47] <Galaxor> Or is there a doc that says what reason=3 is?  Google is not forthcoming.
[05:47] <aaqil> How to edit grub loader timer?
[05:47] <va_cute> jmv jhcigvou
[05:47] <SpicyLemon> How do I stop my mic input from coming out my speakers?
[05:48] <aaqil> unplug mic
[05:48] <Daskreech> hi aaqil
[05:48] <aaqil> Daskreech, :D welcome
[05:48] <unitheory> aaqil, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst or ust the package startupmanager
[05:48] <R_YoYo_R> SpicyLemon, alsoconf or volume manager maybe?
[05:48] <Daskreech> Shallom :)
[05:49] <SpicyLemon> I've poked around with alsamixer, I'll give alsaconf a look-see
[05:49] <aaqil> shallom, Daskreech  how to edit that menu.lst ? with full command
[05:49] <Daskreech> Anyone wants to help unscrew up some nvidia borkup?
[05:49] <flanders> I understand how using hdparm you can change the idle time before the hard drive goes to sleep. However, is there a way to keep the drive asleep, even while using the mouse/keyboard (until disk access is required)?
[05:49] <Daskreech> aaqil: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:49] <flanders> I ask this because I do not need the hard drive running while I am reading documents or PDFs, but I use the mouse to scroll the pages.
[05:50] <unitheory> aaqil, if you don't know how to edit configuration files you should use startupmanager instead
[05:50] <Daskreech> flanders: You probably want it running then
[05:50] <aaqil> unitheory, where is that startupmanager in my xfce
[05:50] <flanders> But the document is loaded into memory, Daskreech.
[05:51] <Daskreech> Yes but some of the memory is on the hard rive
[05:51] <unitheory> aaqil, you have to install it
[05:51] <flanders> Regardless, do you know of a way to keep the drive asleep, even while using the mouse/keyboard?
[05:51] <aaqil> ok i install with sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[05:51] <Daskreech> Not off hand since it's generally a bad idea but I suppose you could just set very restrictive as in 150 ms sleep times
[05:52] <bReakmYfaLL> Thank You ALL fo the support
[05:52] <ERG1959> ubuntu.irc
[05:52] <unitheory> aaqil, it will be in the system menu
[05:52] <AceBlade159> my apoligies i may be getting annoying but i really need my computer
[05:52] <Daskreech> Anyone wants to help set up an nvidia system?
[05:52] <Daskreech> AceBlade159: What's the issue?
[05:52] <AceBlade159> i am tryin to install ubuntu on a machine using an  nForce 4 Ultra AMD chipset and i can't get it to see my hard drives\
[05:52] <AceBlade159> thank you
[05:52] <Daskreech> AceBlade159: what's leading you to beleive that?
[05:53] <R_YoYo_R> AceBlade159, what type drives are they?
[05:53] <unitheory> AceBlade159, the fdisk command give you an output, correct?
[05:53] <AceBlade159> nothin is reported in fdisk
[05:53] <unitheory> heheh
[05:53] <startbox> can anyone help me setup a syslog server?
[05:53] <AceBlade159> *nothing
[05:53] <AceBlade159> and sorry, they are sata
[05:53] <Daskreech> AceBlade159: What's the command that you were using?
[05:53] <Spherous> I need help reinstalling grub off of a ubuntu live cd after a windows installation
[05:54] <aaqil> wo wo wo wo I have configured startup manager successfully
[05:54] <AceBlade159> sudo fdisk -l
[05:54] <Daskreech> !grub | Spherous
[05:54] <hemanth> ubuntu 9.04 running on low graphics , drivers mismatch for VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]
[05:54] <Spherous> Daskreech: I already tried that, I couldn't get it to work
[05:54] <Daskreech> Spherous: Then you have larger problems
[05:55] <Spherous> Daskreech: How so?
[05:55] <Daskreech> AceBlade159: what's ls /dev/sd* say ?
[05:55] <WIGGMPk> Whats the average turn around time (from the time you submit the bug) for someone to fix a bug submitted in launchpad????
[05:55] <AceBlade159> one moment
[05:55] <Daskreech> Spherous: that's pretty much supposed to work
[05:55] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Years
[05:55] <arbgeek> hello all
[05:55] <R_YoYo_R> WIGGMPk, all depends man
[05:55] <caffeinated> hi arbgeek
[05:55] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: you cant be serious?? years?
[05:55] <Spherous> Daskreech: care to help then? I couldn't figure it out, followed it step by step, but it errors, I guess I can't figure out which partition is correct
[05:56] <WIGGMPk> R_YoYo_R: on what? its a regression of the firmware for a CD/DVD drive..
[05:56] <sasori2501> hello all.  is there anyway to list the kernels that have been installed on this machine??
[05:56] <Daskreech> Spherous: what error?
[05:56] <Spherous> Daskreech: I'll pastebin it, one second
[05:56] <AceBlade159> daskreech: sorry, what do you mean?
[05:56] <WIGGMPk> R_YoYo_R: Daskreech: better question.. whats the turn around time for someone to actually acknowledge the bug and change the status from New to something, and from Undecided to important.. ???
[05:57] <myxo> hey guys, setting up a ubuntu installation, should i encrypt home directory?
[05:57] <Daskreech> sasori2501: sudo dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[05:57] <Xuzz> I need some help here with dual monitors and xrandr
[05:57] <Daskreech> AceBlade159: With  what?
[05:57] <R_YoYo_R> WIGGMPk, its like fixing a bug for anything .... they figure in how many people this will effect ... the severity of the bug etc
[05:57] <startbox> !finger
[05:57] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Probably pretty short
[05:57] <Daskreech> myxo: If you want it encrypted
[05:58] <sasori2501> Daskreech: excellent.  thank you.  now, is there anyway i can force this system to ignore its current kernel and use one of the ones in the past???
[05:58] <AceBlade159> Daskreech: ls /dev/sd*
[05:58] <lstarnes> myxo: unless you require extra security, you don't need to
[05:58] <myxo> daskreech i dont think it matters either way. i chose not to do it to avoid complications in the future
[05:58] <myxo> istarnes alrighty
[05:58] <myxo> istarnes thats what i thought, i didnt do it
[05:58] <Daskreech> sasori2501: Press esc at the startup when it says press esc Then choose one of the old ones
[05:58] <Daskreech> AceBlade159: What does that show ?
[05:58] <lstarnes> myxo: I usually encrypt sensitive documents individually with gpg
[05:59] <Xuzz> I'm on a GMA950 with a max canvas size of 2048x2028 (for acceleration)...and I have my two monitors positioned "top-of" each other (in xrandr, they are side by side physically). I want to make them appear to X stacked on top but be able to use them as if they were positioned side by side in xrandr (isntead of having to have the mouse go off the top of the screen to switch)
[05:59] <Daskreech> do you get an output for that command?
[05:59] <Spherous> Daskreech: http://pastebin.com/m4fefad22
[05:59] <myxo> i'm putting Ubuntu on my brothers PC, who is going to afghanistan for quiet a while, any essential programs you guys would recommend for someone who rarely if ever has the internet?
[05:59] <AceBlade159> Daskreech: /dev/sda
[05:59] <WIGGMPk> R_YoYo_R: meanwhile how to a burn a CD/DVD ??? what workaround could I use? because honestly.. not being able to burn a CD/DVD is a pretty big freakin deal.. and should be trivial to fix.. this is frustrating.. I either roll back my entire OS to a previous release or not burn anything..
[05:59] <Daskreech> AceBlade159: That's it?
[06:00] <AceBlade159> yes, it's yellow with a black highlight
[06:00] <test-sheep> myxo: How can he carry the PC?  Laptop?
[06:01] <sasori2501> Daskreech: hmm. sorry im not exactly sure what your referring too... o wait... maybe i think i know, ok, let me try that out, brb, thank you!
[06:01] <WIGGMPk> R_YoYo_R: is there a way to expedite or bring the bug to someone's attention.. cause it just looks like its sitting there?
[06:01] <Daskreech> Spherous: this is Wubi ?
[06:01] <R_YoYo_R> WIGGMPk, i apologize i didnt see your original problem. What is it? There is ALWAYS a fix for stuff like thatr
[06:01] <WIGGMPk> listen to me.. I sound like I want commercial tech support lmfao
[06:02] <Spherous> Daskreech: Hmm? Wubi?
[06:02] <Daskreech> AceBlade159: Then yep it's not reading the hard drives :)
[06:02] <sdeb> !anaconda | sdeb
[06:02] <WIGGMPk> R_YoYo_R: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dvd+rw-tools/+bug/307477 take a look at your leisure
[06:02] <R_YoYo_R> k
[06:02] <Daskreech> Spherous: why is it that you are mounting the windows partition?
[06:02] <sdeb> !upstream
[06:02] <myxo> test-sheep laptop yes. he likes to do a lot of photo editting, takes a lot of RAW piictures
[06:03] <Spherous> Daskreech: its my primary partition
[06:03] <AceBlade159> Daskreech: any idea's on how to make it see them
[06:03] <sdeb> !debian-installer
[06:03] <WIGGMPk> R_YoYo_R: btw.. I would be more inclined to believe its not only the dvd+rw-tools package, but the kernel drivers for the drive itself
[06:03] <Daskreech> AceBlade159: Do you get any errors when you are booting up?
[06:03] <sdeb> !cloak
[06:03] <Daskreech> Spherous: You don't have a / partition ?
[06:04] <R_YoYo_R> WIGGMPk, i agree
[06:04] <sdeb> !ubottu
[06:04] <unitheory> sdeb, open a dialog with ubottu if you want to test out commands, not here please
[06:04] <R_YoYo_R> WIGGMPk, this is a bug between distros as well. ...
[06:04] <AceBlade159> 4 total, 2 for each drive, i cant remember what they said, but i do remember it was errorno -5
[06:04] <Spherous> Daskreech: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean by a / partition... I haven't used ubuntu for a while, and I am kinda rusty
[06:04] <Daskreech> Anyone wants to help fix a X issue?
[06:04] <sdeb> unitheory: iam very sorry , and thank u
[06:04] <test-sheep> myxo: F-Spot, Inkscape, Bunch of photos, PDFs of books to read on laptop. I don't know if he'll have time to commit to learn how to use fspot, inkscape, etc, but he probably would read books or something relaxing.
[06:04] <WIGGMPk> R_YoYo_R: its been chillin in launchpad for 6+ months though.. which is irritating
[06:05] <WIGGMPk> R_YoYo_R: no CD/DVD burning is like saying.. "Hey, we launched a brand spankin new OS today.. It's awesome... But oh, btw.. .You cant use USB ports.. Yeah... Sorry...."
[06:05] <rootlinuxusr> http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showpost.php?p=19793&postcount=4 How can I get that running - it works from terminal but not in pidgin itself. Tried setting it as senicon.sh /usr/local/bin/senicon.sh et al. same effect - nothing.
[06:05] <Daskreech> Spherous: Try mounting /dev/sda3 where you are mounting /dev/sda2
[06:06] <Panoramix> What is the best equivalent for adobe flash 10 in ubuntu? :o
[06:06] <rootlinuxusr> gnash or adobe flash?
[06:06] <test-sheep> Panoramix: Adobe Flash 10?
[06:06] <Daskreech> Panoramix: Adobe Flash?
[06:06] <unitheory> Panoramix, adobe flash 10
[06:06] <myxo> test-sheep alritey. are there any commands i need to run on a fresh ubuntu installation? the computer I'm currently using is the first install i've ever done, his will be my second.
[06:07] <test-sheep> "What?  Omg. *nix can run Adobe Flash? O rly?  Yes rly!"
[06:07] <Panoramix> u know... Program for creating swf :)
[06:07] <Daskreech> Anyone wants to help unbork an nvidia attack?
[06:07] <Daskreech> Panoramix: Ah That's different. Probably the same answer though
[06:07] <WIGGMPk> ha.... unbork
[06:08] <Spherous> Daskreech: Same error
[06:08] <mobi-sheep> myxo: Updated + Upgrade already?
[06:08] <Daskreech> Spherous: is there a stage1 in that directory ?
[06:08] <Panoramix> So, is there any adobe flash ubuntu?
[06:08] <AceBlade159> Daskreech: what do you mean "unbork an nvidia attack: ?
[06:08] <Spherous> Daskreech: Not that I can see
[06:09] <Xuzz> I'm on a GMA950 with a max canvas size of 2048x2028 (for acceleration)...and I have my two monitors (on a laptop, one is the built in screen one is VGA) positioned "top-of" each other (in xrandr, they are side by side physically). I want to make them appear to X stacked on top (to fit in the max canvas size for compiz) but be able to use them as if they were positioned side by side in xrandr (isntead of having to have the mouse go off the top of the screen t
[06:09] <Xuzz> o switch)
[06:09] <Daskreech> AceBlade159: nvidia drivers are stopping X from starting. I want help it undo that and get the drivers working
[06:09] <WIGGMPk> AceBlade159: use your imagination.. Daskreech: did you try running the nvidia updater for xorg.. I think its nvidia-xconfig?
[06:10] <anathematic> any recommendations for software to monitor my memory usage over a period of time on a ubuntu server?
[06:10] <Daskreech> Spherous: In /boot/grub I have a file named stage1. You don't?
[06:10] <mobi-sheep> Panoramix: You're talking about running Flash?
[06:10] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: you should prolly post your xorg.conf in pastebin
[06:10] <Daskreech> mobi-sheep: No making flash movies
[06:10] <AceBlade159> Daskreech: odd, when i had an install back when i had a working ide drive i had no problm with x starting (i'm on a gts 8800)
[06:11] <Spherous> Daskreech: It can't access /boot/grub, says theres no such file or directory
[06:11] <Daskreech> Oh I didn't either until I installed the nvidia drivers
[06:11] <Daskreech> Spherous: Where did you mount /dev/sda3 ?
[06:11] <Panoramix> Running flash and creating flash
[06:11] <Spherous> Daskreech: /media/root
[06:11] <Spherous> Daskreech: Just like you said
[06:11] <Daskreech> Panoramix: most likely run Adobe Flash 10 under wine
[06:12] <mobi-sheep> Panoramix: You know ActionScript?
[06:12] <Daskreech> Spherous: then you mounted /dev/sda1 as /media/root/boot ?
[06:12] <Panoramix> Isnt it too heavy?
[06:12] <Spherous> Daskreech: Correct
[06:12] <Daskreech> Panoramix: Yes but it's a windows program what do you expect?
[06:13] <Panoramix> I am starting to learn it
[06:13] <Daskreech> Spherous: and under /media/root/boot/grub is there a stage1 ?
[06:13] <Spherous> Daskreech: Yes, there is one there
[06:13] <badboy_> :(
[06:14] <Daskreech> Spherous: and stage2?
[06:14] <Spherous> Daskreech: Correct
[06:14] <myxo> graaahhhh, darnit, why is everything always super difficult? ubuntu livedisc wouldnt work on my brohters pc.... so i ran the altdisc.... worked.... now after the ubuntu splash (pre-OS) does its little loading thing, the screen just remains blackkk...... sigh
[06:14] <Spherous> Daskreech: Should I try sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root/boot /dev/sda instead of having the root-directory being /media/root
[06:14] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: http://pastebin.com/ff9a6c00
[06:15] <mobi-sheep> myxo: Did you enable the hardware drivers and that happened right away?
[06:15] <Daskreech> Ermmm
[06:15] <krabe> what does virtual rack mean?
[06:15] <_Tristan> when I run top what does "Cpu(s): 10.5% us,  3.4% sy,  0.0% ni, 84.9% id,  1.3% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si" mean?
[06:15] <Daskreech> I think that wouldn't work but can't hurt to try
[06:15] <myxo> mobi-sheep i haven't gotten the chance to boot into the OS yet
[06:15] <johnnyblazen> hi i just upgraded to xp from vista lol i have 2 hdd's and when i installed xp it wiped out the grub i got the grub boot list to work again but it still shows vista on the list and i cant get it to show xp so i cant boot into windows anyone got any ideas
[06:15] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: did you just recently run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" cause your not even using the nvidia driver
[06:15] <Daskreech> myxo: you tried safe graphics mode ?
[06:15] <myxo> daskreech how do i go into that mode?
[06:16] <Spherous> Daskreech: Nah, didn't work. Tried to add an extra /boot. so it was like /boot/boot lol
[06:16] <Daskreech> _Tristan: read the manual for top
[06:16] <mobi-sheep> myxo: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-how-to-reconfigure-x-windows-system-xorg-server/
[06:16] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Crap yea but it's still not booting :(
[06:16] <_Tristan> Daskreech: ...thats a goddamn brilliant idea >.<
[06:16] <mobi-sheep> myxo: Second option --> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:16] <tanath> i've lost sound. can anyone help?
 hi i just upgraded to xp from vista lol i have 2 hdd's and when i installed xp it wiped out the grub i got the grub boot list to work again but it still shows vista on the list and i cant get it to show xp so i cant boot into windows anyone got any ideas
[06:16] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: what did you do or change before it stopped? like upgrade the kernel, reinstall the modules etc?
[06:17] <badboy_> all i need is audio ;(
[06:17] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: X still is on a start loop starts fails starts again 30 seconds later fails etc
[06:17] <tanath> usually rebooting fixes is, 'cause it's some app 'hogging' the sound card, but i've rebooted twice now, and still no sound
[06:17] <tanath> *it
[06:17] <Daskreech> johnnyblazen: point the chainloader to XP
[06:17] <myxo> mobi-sheep i don't understand how i'm supposed to do this on a black screen? ctrl+alt+f2?
[06:17] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Ran sudo nvidia-config
[06:18] <Gh057hun73r> I have an OLD ATi rage pro AGP vide card, I need drivers for it, even 2D is slow to the point that dragging a small window like xchat drops frames, how do I fix the driver in ubuntu 8.04?
[06:18] <Daskreech> !sound | badboy_
[06:18] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: did you try "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[06:18] <mobi-sheep> myxo: CTRL + ALT + [F1-F6] -- Try that.  Pick any one of those FX.
[06:18] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Yeah tha's what stopped X working
[06:18] <tanath> i've also tried playing with everything in the Sound Prefs, but still no sound
[06:18] <Daskreech> (I presume)
[06:19] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: note the X in "nvidia-xconfig"
[06:19] <myxo> mobi-sheep and if it remains black and unresponsive?
[06:19] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Ah umm >_>
[06:19] <Daskreech> no
[06:19] <mobi-sheep> myxo: Are you online on same machine we're to configure on?
[06:19] <Hoss> anyone know of an app to manage favorite TV channel streams?  I am not looking for a frontend for a MC, but rather just an app to consolidate favorite streams.
[06:19] <myxo> mobi-sheep no, using two laptops, i'm on mine
[06:19] <mzer0> hi
[06:19] <johnnyblazen> brb im gonna reboot and give it a try
[06:19] <mobi-sheep> myxo: Okay.  It won't be unresponsive either way.  It's a command.
[06:20] <myxo> mobi-sheep this is an ASUS, had no problems like this, toshiba satellite isn't so easy
[06:20] <mobi-sheep> Hoss: Boxee / XBMC?  >_>
[06:20] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: nope failed to load modules type1 freetype nvidia
[06:20] <wapko> myxo : try to press 'esc' in grub and [e]dit the kernel line, remove quiet and splash, press enter and then b to boot with the new line, nothing is saved.. just to see what errors there are
[06:20] <mobi-sheep> !tv | Hoss
[06:20] <mobi-sheep> Hoss: Not quite same thing.
[06:21] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: that's all kernel stuff so I might need to reboot
[06:21] <myxo> wapko ok
[06:21] <Hoss> mobi-sheep:  These seem more like media center solutions.  Wouldnt either Boxee or XBMC be a bit more than what I need?
[06:22] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: restarting the x server should be the same.. as long as the module is already compiled and running... try "lsmod | grep nvidia" if its not there.. sudo modprobe nvidia
[06:22] <dethray> Alright, ubuntu is all configured how I want it, virtualbox is on, now what else can I do for fun... :P
[06:22] <tanath> was there a recent update that affects sound?
[06:22] <tanath> i don't have sound anymore
[06:22] <lstarnes> tanath: for which version of ubuntu?
[06:22] <tanath> 9.04
[06:22] <WIGGMPk> dethray: fix this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dvd+rw-tools/+bug/307477
[06:22] <mobi-sheep> Hoss: You could always use a regular web browser and use Hulu.
[06:22] <Hoss> dethray:  Try getting a Zune to work in VB.  That will keep your gears spinning for a while.
[06:23] <Gh057hun73r> need driver for Ati rage pro in 8.04
[06:23] <tanath> lstarnes, i've tried all kinds of things, but still no sound >.<
[06:23] <myxo> wapko i don't see splash but i got rid of quiet
[06:23] <dethray> Hehe
[06:23] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: fatal error nvidia not found
[06:23] <johnnyblazen> no luck
[06:23] <dethray> Send me a zune, I will get right on it... :P
[06:23] <Hoss> mobi-sheep:  Yeah, thing is I want access through a centeral app not only to Fox.
[06:23] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: figures.. you running jaunty?? i assume your using the 180 revision of the nvidia module?
[06:23] <Hoss> dethray:  lol, I am installing VMware against my wishes to get mine to work.
[06:23] <Daskreech> Gh057hun73r: That's should be supported by the radeon driver
[06:24] <tanath> lstarnes, in case you missed it: ubuntu 9.04
[06:24] <Spherous> Daskreech: Do you think this whole "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary." message is causing the problem?
[06:24] <Daskreech> no the 96 I was using 173 but that seemed to stop X workin ala nvidia-config
[06:24] <myxo> wapko after the splash screen it just remains black.
[06:24] <Daskreech> Spherous: That's quite worrying to me but I don't know enough to be vocally worried
[06:25] <Gh057hun73r> I dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it didnt even ask me what driver to use, just wanted me to configure my KB.. how do I get ALL the options back?
[06:25] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: ^^^^
[06:25] <myxo> mobi-sheep it must not even be booting, because none of the f1-f6 did anything, just sat black.
[06:25] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: alright.. gimme a second.. you need to remove the package and reinstall it.. happened to me.. I think its a DKMS problem
[06:25] <Daskreech> myxo: Ah you got a splash thats good
[06:25] <TheNewGuy> hello
[06:25] <myxo> daskreech yea, thats all i get though
[06:25] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: So go ahead and purge 96 ?
[06:25] <Hoss> mobi-sheep:  You cant think of a light weight streaming manager app that I could try out?  Again, I wont be streaming this feed to any other machines, it will all be viewed locally.
[06:26] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: 1 sec.. Ill get the package names for you
[06:26] <Spherous> Daskreech: Do you think there is anyway for me to back up whats on my windows partition to my linux partition via the live cd, then grab the info I want after a reformat of my windows partition from my linux partition and repartitioning my drives to wipe linux off and give windows all 350GBs?
[06:26] <mobi-sheep> Hoss: You're talking about web-based streaming or video streaming?
[06:26] <TheNewGuy> I got a simple question... I down loaded java... how do I install it?  I using the latest Ubutu.  Brand new to linux
[06:26] <Hoss> hweb-based
[06:26] <Hoss> mobi-sheep:  Web-based
[06:26] <johnnyblazen> can anyone give me some advice i need to know how to change the grub boot loader list how do i do this
[06:26] <wapko> myxo, k. i was hoping to get rid of the splash to see whats wrong with it. now im all out.
[06:26] <hateball> !java | TheNewGuy
[06:27] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: just purged dkms as well
[06:27] <Daskreech> !java | TheNewGuy
[06:27] <myxo> wapko there are 4 lines to choose. one begins with uuid, other with kernel, other with initrd, and last with quiet
[06:27] <tanath> TheNewGuy, there are java packages in the official repository. you can install java from the repos via Synaptic package manager: System > Admin > Synaptic
[06:27] <jerroome> jonnyblazen /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:27] <mobi-sheep> Hoss: Well, VLC have this thing where you can stream the video you have.  But if you're talking about watching TV shows from Internet.  I'd say Hulu or something relatively close.  Also, use a different (light) browser.
[06:27] <johnnyblazen> can anyone give me some advice i need to know how to change the grub boot loader list how do i do this
[06:27] <myxo> wapko got rid of quiet, the others  didnt seem like they'd be a splash
[06:27] <wapko> myxo. its supposed to be the kernel line
[06:27] <R_YoYo_R> johnnyblazen, change order?
[06:27] <Hoss> mobi-sheep:  Lighter than firefox?
[06:27] <jerroome> !ask | jonnyblazen
[06:27] <tanath> can anyone help me get sound back?
[06:28] <Daskreech> johnnyblazen: edit the menu.lst file
[06:28] <Daskreech> !sound | tanath
[06:28] <tanath> something (a recent update maybe) eliminated sound on my system
[06:28] <mobi-sheep> Hoss: Yup.  Using it solely for web streaming.  A clean interface too.
[06:28] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: "sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx-96 nvidia-common nvidia-96-kernel-source nvidia-96-modaliases nvidia-96-libvdpau" you shouldnt need to purge DKMS.. but oh well.. not sure if there is a nvidia-96-libvdpau package but its worth a shot
[06:28] <myxo> wapko ahhh, i got it this time
[06:28] <Hoss> mobi-sheep:  Have you had a chance to mess with Boxee?
[06:29] <wapko> myxo. great. now u should be able to see where it borks
[06:29] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: done
[06:29] <mobi-sheep> Hoss: No.  We spoke about this last night, didn't we?
[06:29] <TheNewGuy> anyone know how to install java ?  i down loaded it from java.com.
[06:29] <TheNewGuy> I have it in my down load list
[06:29] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: and just install them again.. should take care of it.. let me know (restarting would be best and I think required)
[06:29] <R_YoYo_R> TheNewGuy, !java
[06:29] <TheNewGuy> but I have no idea what to do with it.
[06:29] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: look at what ubottu just said to you
[06:29] <myxo> wapko i thought you might say that, but all it did was spam spam spam spam and now its black lol, no errors
[06:29] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: ah wait
[06:29] <myxo> wapko i'm confused
[06:29] <R_YoYo_R> !java
[06:30] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: you should prolly get rid of nvidia-settings too (although it might of went with everything else)
[06:30] <Spherous> Does anyone think there is anyway for me to back up whats on my windows partition to my linux partition via the live cd, then grab the info I want after a reformat of my windows partition from my linux partition and repartitioning my drives to wipe linux off and give windows all 350GBs?
[06:30] <TheNewGuy> I did... I am brand new with this...  I don't even know what it is saying... sedo???
[06:30] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: sudo
[06:30] <R_YoYo_R> Spherous, explain it better... your explanation confuses me
[06:31] <Hoss> mobi-sheep:  I thought I spoke with someone named nimja or something.  Dont recall.  I love what I have seen from Boxee, but it just seems provides more than what I need for a desktop machine.
[06:31] <R_YoYo_R> Spherous, why not just partition windows too have all 350?
[06:31] <TheNewGuy> ok, sudo, what is that?  do I need it to install java?
[06:31] <mobi-sheep> Hoss: What is it exactly you're looking for?  Surfing Hulu on Firefox isn't satisfactory?
[06:31] <Spherous> R_YoYo_R: I can't seem to reinstall grub, and I need to save info from my windows partition before I reformat, plus I need info off of my linux partition after the reformat
[06:31] <tyler_d> thats awesome TheNewGuy
[06:31] <R_YoYo_R> Spherous, i dont get the whole transfer to linux part deal
[06:32] <R_YoYo_R> Spherous, re-installing grub is tit .. why cant you reinstall?
[06:32] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: yeah essentially. it changes your permissions to allow you to interfere with the system. In this case by installing Java
[06:32] <wapko> myxo. are you able to ctrl+alt+f1 while it shows the splash or scrolling text
[06:32] <overlord> Can anyone tell me how do i convert a .flv file to .3gp ?
[06:32] <Spherous> R_YoYo_R: I keep getting an error saying it can't read stage1 correctly.  Daskreech was helping me, but couldn't figure it out
[06:32] <myxo> wapko i can restart by forcing power off then try during scrolling text
[06:33] <Daskreech> overlord: mencoder I'd bet
[06:33] <overlord> Daskreech: thanks
[06:33] <Daskreech> Spherous: which page were you following?
[06:33] <TheNewGuy> Dask is there a linux primer on the net... one designed for beginners?
[06:33] <wapko> myxo. maybe try the recovery mode and see if you can get in the system
[06:33] <Spherous> Daskreech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[06:33] <R_YoYo_R> Spherous, you have to boot the live cd  and reinstall it from there
[06:34] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: :-) Quite a lot but lets walk you through this. Go into your settings menu and look for synaptic
[06:34] <Spherous> R_YoYo_R: I am booted into the live cd, if I was on my linux partition, I wouldn't have a problem, lol
[06:34] <Hoss> myxo:  Download ERD commander might be able to help you recover files.  Shot in the dark.
[06:34] <badboy_> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[06:34] <badboy_> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC660-VD Analog [ALC660-VD Analog]
[06:34] <badboy_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[06:34] <badboy_>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[06:34] <badboy_> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem]
[06:34] <FloodBot2> badboy_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:34] <badboy_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[06:34] <myxo> wapko ctrl alt f1 didn't work too well during scrolling text, all i managed to do was pause the text once lol.
[06:34] <R_YoYo_R> Spherous, how was i supposed to know that? dick.
[06:35] <myxo> hoss whats erd commander?
[06:35] <Spherous> R_YoYo_R: I said it o.o
[06:35] <TheNewGuy> ok, thanks.  Whwere is the settings menu?  I check the system and applications
[06:35] <Hoss> myxo:  google it, its a pretty powerful recovery cd.
[06:35] <Daskreech> Spherous: Does your /media/root/boot look like the one on that page?
[06:36] <Spherous> Daskreech: No sir
[06:36] <myxo> hoss well. i'm pretty sure its a hardware issue considering this install is less than 5 minutes old =( havent ever successfully booted into it
[06:36] <Daskreech> Spherous: what's differnt?
[06:36] <Hoss> mobi-sheep:  Yeah, Hulu is nice.  I just loved the demo that I seen on Boxee about all the channels ready at the fingertip.  I though maybe there was a light-weight app out there that could manage channels like that without all the other bells and whistles Boxee has to offer.
[06:36] <gogeta> heh just did my own custom ldxe ubuntu install
[06:36] <gogeta> :)
[06:36] <gogeta> 1gb of disk space used
[06:36] <TheNewGuy> Dask, you mean the synaptic manager?  I got it
[06:37] <Spherous> Daskreech: http://pastebin.com/m57a8c8b9
[06:37] <mobi-sheep> Hoss: Oh I thought of one tihng -- You could try a nice Firefox Addon.
[06:37] <gogeta> lxde
[06:37] <mobi-sheep> Hoss: You ever try this --> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5579
[06:37] <badboy_> what's wrong here ?
[06:38] <badboy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/206018/
[06:38] <Hoss> mobi-sheep:  I will definitly check it out, thanks!
[06:38] <Daskreech> Spherous: sudo umount /media/root/boot
[06:38] <mobi-sheep> Hoss: Seems like no Hulu, but lot of YouTube. ;)
[06:38] <Spherous> Daskreech: Okay, now what?
[06:39] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: Ok great. click in the list and type sun-java6
[06:39] <wapko> myxo, could it be acpi thats doing it.. try editing the kernel line in grub again. juat add 'acpi=off' to the ending
[06:39] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: you are looking for sun-java6-jre
[06:39] <Daskreech> Spherous: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/root/boot
[06:39] <Daskreech> Now see if they match
[06:39] <Daskreech> or look alike
[06:40] <myxo> wapko trying it
[06:40] <TheNewGuy> the version is 6.4  file name is jre-6u14-linux-i586.bin.  but I don't know where it down loaded to.
[06:40] <Spherous> Daskreech: I ran sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda with nothing mounted in /media/root/boot and it worked o.o They should fix that in the guide
[06:40] <Daskreech> Spherous: err,
[06:40] <Daskreech> wat's the output of ls /media/root/boot ?
[06:41] <Daskreech> is there something there?
[06:41] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Ping
[06:41] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: work?
[06:41] <Spherous> Daskreech: http://pastebin.com/m11a88cc4
[06:41] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: No
[06:41] <myxo> wapko acpi=off didn't work lol, anyway, i think i'm just going to take the easy way out and install windows xp black on his PC.
[06:42] <wapko> myxo. nooo, no xp pls :P
[06:42] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: hmm.. same thing.. did you update your xorg? what does the error say? failed to load nvidia module or something??
[06:42] <myxo> wapko i feel the saaaame way
[06:42] <myxo> wapko what should i do though? i don't even have anything graphically to work with after it finishes the boot text =(
[06:42] <Spherous> myxo: Try the Windows 7 RC1 :P its nice
[06:43] <myxo> spherous windows 7 rci, whats that?
[06:43] <hateball> !windows
[06:43] <TheNewGuy> Dask  did you see my last post?
[06:44] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: no I haven't tried anything yet. I've purged all nvidia stuff do I reboot now?
[06:44] <hateball> TheNewGuy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu enable Multiverse, then install sun-java from Synaptic
[06:45] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: did you install it again??
[06:45] <overlord> Daskreech: Can you help me with the command to convert
[06:45] <myxo> wapko sorry to bother you, any last thoughts? its late and its taking its toll on me lol
[06:45] <TheNewGuy> Whats multiverse?
[06:45] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: No
[06:45] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Nope
[06:45] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-96 nvidia-common nvidia-96-kernel-source nvidia-96-modaliases nvidia-96-libvdpau"
[06:45] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: then restart.. make sure to get nvidia-settings too
[06:46] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: The applications in Linux are in categories.
[06:46] <jumentous> hi, i've got a question about how anna works in the install process, is there a channel that handles this sort of thing
[06:46] <wapko> myxo, have you tried the recovery option in grub ?
[06:46] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: Multiverse is one of the 4
[06:46] <wapko> myxo: else i have no clue
[06:46] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: should I try 173 again ?
[06:46] <TheNewGuy> is there a primer that gives the basics all at once instead of bits and pieces of it...
[06:46] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: personally 180 is the newest
[06:46] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: so thats what I would use
[06:46] <myxo> wapko yea, tried to use recovery, same junk, lol anyway maybe 9.10 will work, til then he can hold off and use xp black
[06:47] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: trust me you don't want to know it all. :-)
[06:47] <myxo> wapko pirated windows rewritten ftw.
[06:47] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Doesn't support my card
[06:47] <Spherous> myxo: See my pm
[06:47] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: want a quick explanation?
[06:47] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: ouch.. then yes.. try 173, whatever the newest is for you
[06:47] <myxo> spherous o, i almost missed it
[06:47] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: ok
[06:47] <myxo> spherous is it minimal?
[06:47] <nomad77> !ubuntu-guide | TheNewGuy
[06:47] <TheNewGuy> I have heard so much about Linux being great.  I can't believe this is the real world Linux experience.
[06:47] <CHACHA> HIII
[06:48] <TheNewGuy> Yes I would love a quick explination
[06:48] <overlord> Daskreech: Can you tell me how do I convert .flv to .3gp using mencoder ?
[06:48] <eshaase> i have two linux systems setup, how come transferring a particular file from one to another results in 11MB/s but transferring the same file in the other direction results in 3MB/s?
[06:48] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: Ok Ubuntu is run by a company called Canonical They offer support for Ubuntu you can pay for
[06:49] <Daskreech> They have a policy of preferring opensource software
[06:49] <Severity1> TheNewGuy, buy books from amazon
[06:49] <Severity1> there are plenty of those
[06:49] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: So they have two types of software supported and open source
[06:49] <nomad77> TheNewGuy: this is unofficial but worth the read  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty
[06:49] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: Which means they have 4 repositories. or what we call repos
[06:50] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: Main is supported and open source. Restricted is supported and not open source (things like drivers to make hardware work)
[06:50] <TheNewGuy> ok
[06:50] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: There are two others universe which is not supported and open source and multiverse which is not supported and not open source
[06:51] <snakdoc> anyone had problems with amarok deleting files ?? i know this ubuntu channel was just woundering
[06:51] <TheNewGuy> ok
[06:51] <katte> ok
[06:51] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: Or rather not Free software. You can be open source and not free
[06:51] <katte> ok
[06:51] <TheNewGuy> I have the file.  down loaded it from java.com
[06:51] <Daskreech> So java since it restricts your freedom is in Multiverse
[06:51] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: what kind of file is it?
[06:52] <TheNewGuy> http://dl8-cdn-01.sun.com/s/ESD7/JSCDL/jdk/6u14-b08/jre-6u14-linux-i586.bin?e=1246250752043&h=41c40f8c5f64560995717db4b7ed5f76/&filename=jre-6u14-linux-i586.bin
[06:52] <legend2440> overlord: http://how-ubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/05/tips-how-to-convert-flv-to-3gp-in.html
[06:52] <TheNewGuy> .bin
[06:52] <overlord> legend2440: thanks mate
[06:52] <katte> yy puede ser un viruss
[06:53] <TheNewGuy> jre-6u14-linux-i586.bin
[06:53] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: ok before you do that lets try the multiverse way did you enable multiverse ?
[06:53] <katte> hello
[06:53] <TheNewGuy> not yet.  how do I do that.
[06:54] <Daskreech> you have synaptic open ?
[06:54] <TheNewGuy> yes
[06:55] <qe2eqe> My computer crashes, all the components are cool..... mouse moves choppily, but the rest of system is dead. What do I do to fix this?
[06:55] <TheNewGuy> on the left side under "reload I found multmedia (multiverse) ... is that it?
[06:56] <TheNewGuy> ok, ... what am I looking for?
[06:56] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: no it's in the menu up top
[06:56] <Daskreech> manage repositores I think
[06:56] <Daskreech> Sorry not looking at it now :-|
[06:56] <qe2eqe> ok so I know how to resolve this crash -- log everything, and the last action logged before crash should be the culprit, right?
[06:56] <Daskreech> qe2eqe: Possibly
[06:57] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: what's the menus you have at top? Do you have a manage?
[06:57] <TheNewGuy> I am in synaptic package manager.  the only menu options I have are, file, edit, package, settings, help.
[06:57] <Daskreech> settings -> repositores
[06:58] <lysf1994> 민주노조 사수하고 인간답게 살아보자 단결투쟁,생존권사수
[06:58] <TheNewGuy> oik
[06:58] <TheNewGuy> ok
[06:58] <Daskreech> click multiverse and universe and you can close it
[06:58] <Threetimes> hi, i'm copying a 200 mb directory with thousands small files to my phone (fat32). At a point it says there's not enough free space
[06:59] <Daskreech> It will ask to reload so reload it
[07:00] <AceBlade159> nVidia nForce 4 Ultra AMD chipset, can't get sata drives to detect, help please
[07:00] <TheNewGuy> by default 4 are selected.  Canonical-supported open source software (main)
[07:00] <TheNewGuy> community-maintained... Universe
[07:00] <AceBlade159> also is there a way to enable propritary drivrs by defualt
[07:01] <AceBlade159> e.g. video card
[07:01] <TheNewGuy> ok, i get it... selected univers and multiverse
[07:01] <TheNewGuy> only
[07:02] <TheNewGuy> Whats the next step?
[07:03] <TheNewGuy> i reloaded it.
[07:04] <legend2440> AceBlade159: open system>administration>hardware drivers see if there are any propritary drivers available
[07:04] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: install sun-java6-jre
[07:04] <TheNewGuy> ok, how
[07:04] <qe2eqe> Threetimes, is it really out of space? 200mb of data could easily be a gig if you factor in the overhead for each small file
[07:05] <AceBlade159> legend2440: i'm hoping for a way for the driver to be installed/enabled by defualt
[07:05] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: right click it and select install
[07:05] <AceBlade159> any ideas on my first problem?
[07:06] <katte> I do not know
[07:07] <pvh_sa> heya, i just upgrade to ubuntu 9.04 and now my ATI Radeon 9550 video card is not being detected (i'm using the fglrx driver)
[07:07] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: then click apply at the top
[07:07] <TheNewGuy> its not in the list
[07:08] <badboy_> i go back for windows :(
[07:08] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: >_>
[07:08] <TheNewGuy> what does >-> mean?
[07:08] <Daskreech> what happens when you click on the list and type sun ?
[07:08] <chrissy_> can anybody help me with email questions
[07:08] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: That's me looking to the left
[07:08] <TheNewGuy> i see plenty of java files
[07:09] <TheNewGuy> but not the one you listed which is not what I need.  I need the 6.4
[07:09] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: oh? and those are not available?
[07:09] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: did it work? what TheNewGuy trying to install??
[07:09] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: java. Needs the one from Java.com it seems
[07:10] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: ok cool open a terminal and cd to where you have the .bin file
[07:10] <TheNewGuy> ok, I was looking under java, when I searched sun the 6.0 versions came up.
[07:10] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: ^_^
[07:10] <chrissy_> i am looking for help with email
[07:10] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: the "one" from java?? which version?
[07:10] <Daskreech> chrissy_: ask the question
[07:10] <TheNewGuy> and yes I need the one from java.com.  which is the one I down loaded.  I have the file.  how do I install it.
[07:11] <Omar87> Hey there!
[07:11] <chrissy_> i just installed email on xubuntu and it ask me for a
[07:11] <TheNewGuy> ok,
[07:11] <chrissy_> password were do i get that
[07:11] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: do what I said above with terminal then type sudo sh NAME_OF_JAVA.bin
[07:12] <galvonix> your password that you set on install
[07:12] <chrissy_> well i put that in and it woul noy
[07:12] <TheNewGuy> I down loaded the file.  it is in my down load list.  how do I find the path?
[07:12] <chrissy_> login it said password fail
[07:13] <TheNewGuy> is there a file manager in linux?
[07:13] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: still dont get it.. why do you need the one from java? Daskreech: isnt the java in the repositories good enough?
[07:13] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: nautilus
[07:13] <e[X]sodus> is this just for ubuntu specific questions? cause i'm having an issue with wine
[07:13] <TheNewGuy> I am running a software package that took me to the 6.4 page.  6.0 was already installed.
[07:13] <WIGGMPk> e[X]sodus: well... its called #ubuntu... I would try #winehq for wine specific questions
[07:13] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: Yeah quite a few
[07:14] <mwas> How do I rotate panel on desktop?
[07:14] <WIGGMPk> mwas: rotate panel?
[07:14] <e[X]sodus> thank you WIGGMPk
[07:14] <Omar87> There is a file that someone told me to add in order to fix a sound problem that I was having a couple weeks ago, I'm not sure where it is. Can anybody give me a hint where to find it? 'coz I need to remove it...
[07:15]  * WIGGMPk guesses he will help people since I cant burn my DVD's
[07:15] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: help TheNewGuy  run a bin file while I reboot
[07:15] <nomad77> try ~/Desktop then sudo chmod a +x full-name.bin && ./foo.bin whatever the full and correct name of file
[07:15] <nomad77> a+x
[07:15] <WIGGMPk> Omar87: wow, dont be so specific Omar.. umm.. could you give us a hint on what the file was called or maybe the sound problem you had?
[07:15] <mike1312> Hi everybody! I ve got libdvdnav4, libdvdread4, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad и gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly installed as said in help but still cant play DVD. Whats wrong?
[07:16] <TheNewGuy> wigg, how do find the path for my down loaded file?
[07:16] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Wait hold on I get a message I need to run a dkms build for kernel 2.6.28-11-server
[07:16] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: What did you use to download it?
[07:16] <legend2440> !dvd | mike1312
[07:16] <TheNewGuy> ubuntu
[07:16] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: yea.. just restart.. it should auto install the module into the kernel
[07:17] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: ok well then probably in your home folder
[07:17] <johnnyblazen> hi all i have a boot loader problem anyone shed some light on this
[07:17] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: I would assume you used "firefox" which is a web browser to download the file
[07:17] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: and it would be downloaded to your "default" save location... unless you changed it..
[07:17] <TheNewGuy> ok, what is the path?  you want me to change to that directory... is there a file manager that will give me the path?
[07:17] <hpierce> Hi.
[07:17] <TheNewGuy> yes I used fire fox
[07:18] <hpierce> I need some help setting up a debug verison of Firefox.
[07:18] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: try "cd ~/Desktop" in the terminal
[07:18] <hpierce> I finally have a repro for locking up my system.
[07:18] <ramavadakattu> after evey apt-get install iam getting the following error  http://dpaste.com/hold/61032/ How to resolve this?
[07:18] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: and then "ls" to list the contents of that directory.. if you saved it to the desktop.. then it should show up there
[07:18] <e[X]sodus> is there a way to kinda wipe ubunutu clean, but keep the packages a downloaded already? so its like a new system, but can go back and install the stuff i know i need?
[07:19] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: I saw it do the dkms on reboot
[07:19] <e[X]sodus> i'm still learning and i'm sure i messed up along the way, shit's getting slower
[07:19] <Daskreech> Then I saw it fail
[07:19] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: ouch..
[07:19] <Daskreech> !ohmy | e[X]sodus
[07:19] <legend2440> mike1312: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?     if not then in terminal type   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:19] <TheNewGuy> nothing is coming up on the list
[07:19] <hpierce> e[X]sodus: do you have free space on your system you can make into a partition?
[07:19] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: Open nautilus and look for it
[07:20] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: what is the URL to the file you are trying to install.. and it would help if you could tell me why EXACTLY you need the version from java's website?
[07:20] <e[X]sodus> yeah, i have an untouched 750gb hdd installed
[07:20] <hpierce> or a DVD burner?
[07:20] <e[X]sodus> both
[07:20] <hpierce> You could put the packages on a partition.
[07:20] <hpierce> or a DVD drive.
[07:20] <hpierce> Then you have them after the fresh install and just point the installer software to it.
[07:20] <Omar87> WIGGMPK: Ok I the problem was that the sound system stopped working altogether after a failed attempt to switch from ALSA to OSS. But, apparently that solution didn't work. The problem is fixed now, but I believe adding that file, instead of fixing my problem, made another problem, which is that my internal and external sound speakers both work together, which is not good.
[07:20] <e[X]sodus> how do i do that?
[07:20] <TheNewGuy> I am running a web based trading applications.  Charting and real time updates of FX cross rates.
[07:21] <mike1312> I ve got a only part of extras installed and there was a conflict
[07:21] <hpierce> do what?  point the install to the archive location?
[07:21] <e[X]sodus> where are the pckages?
[07:21] <Omar87> WIGGMPk: Btw, this is a Laptop.
[07:21] <e[X]sodus> i dont even know where software installs to in this lol
[07:21] <hpierce> Oh... did you not save the *.deb packages?
[07:22] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: and the sun-jav6 from the repos will not do what you need? what is the URL to the file you downloaded??
[07:22] <e[X]sodus> dude, i'm brand new
[07:22] <e[X]sodus> lol
[07:22] <WIGGMPk> Omar87: did you edit a file or create a new file?
[07:22] <TheNewGuy> where is the program nautilus?  not listed under system or applications.
[07:22] <TheNewGuy> http://dl8-cdn-01.sun.com/s/ESD7/JSCDL/jdk/6u14-b08/jre-6u14-linux-i586.bin?e=1246250752043&h=41c40f8c5f64560995717db4b7ed5f76/&filename=jre-6u14-linux-i586.bin
[07:22] <e[X]sodus> i jumped into the deep end and got rid of windows for good, used to dual boot
[07:22] <tyler_d> TheNewGuy: you can find any installed application by typing in a terminal `which <<appname>>`
[07:22] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: nautilus is a window manager.. a file manager.. if you hit Places > Home it opens nautilus
[07:22] <tyler_d> TheNewGuy: ie. which nautilus
[07:22] <Omar87> WIGGMPk: Created a new file, can't remember what the name was, added a couple lines into it, saved and then rebooted that machine.
[07:23] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: It's under places
[07:23] <hpierce> e[X]sodus: ah, sorry, I misunderstood that you had the *.deb packages archieved.
[07:23] <TheNewGuy> thanks
[07:23] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: Just click anythign in places and it will open
[07:23] <Omar87> the* machine
[07:23] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: did you change the file name when you downloaded it?
[07:23] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: It's either in your home directory in documents or the desktop
[07:24] <WIGGMPk> Omar87: its pretty hard to determine where you would add it based on the info you gave me.. if you knew the file name it would be easier
[07:24] <hpierce> e[X]odus: look in /var/caches/apt/archves/*
[07:24] <hpierce> And e[X]odus, do you know what a *.cab file is under Windows?
[07:25] <TheNewGuy> ok, found it.  :-)
[07:25] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: not to sound rude.. but if your running a web based trading application.. that im sure involves some kind of financial commitment.. then why are you using an OS your not familiar with to run the application?
[07:25] <e[X]sodus> yes i know what a .cab is
[07:25] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Excitement?
[07:25] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: And I'm not sure how you conclude it's a financial commitement :)
[07:25] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: now wherever it is.. you need to open the terminal and type.. "cd ~/path/to/the/bin/file"
[07:25] <hpierce> e[X]sodus: a *.deb serves a similar function.
[07:26] <TheNewGuy> better security.  and I'm trying to learn linux... I thought ubutu would be easy enough.  but everyone talks in code.
[07:26] <hpierce> For non-debian Linux such as Fedora or SuSE, *.rpm is the package extention.
[07:26] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: Yeah that's how computers are my Mom complains about the same with people who use Windows
[07:26] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: talks in code? the modern OS (IE: Windows) has stupified people and we have become lazy..
[07:26] <TheNewGuy> I used to design software.  and program a little. did not know I needed to be a pro
[07:27] <TheNewGuy> I agree with that wigg
[07:27] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: Yah don't :) But you started off by going to a website to download something WE are just playing along
[07:27] <tesla_> windoze?
[07:27] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: you dont.. but you have to expect a learning curve.. you dont jump from a Windows PC and then just expect to know everything.. it takes time and patience..
[07:27] <qe2eqe> WIGGMPk, Windows has trained us for Windows, which isn't dumber or smarter, just clickable. Also happens to be a great way to ensure vendor lock-in
[07:27] <TheNewGuy> ok, guys.. I get it.  a learning curve.
[07:27] <TheNewGuy> how do I install the bin file.   :-)
[07:27] <n2diy> can you use sbackup and srestore between an 8.04 box and a 9.04 box?
[07:28] <hpierce> BTW, if I sudden disapear, I am fighting a system freeze issue :)
[07:28] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: Umm I guess you want a GUI way?
[07:28] <hpierce> What is a good irc chanel for Devs?
[07:28] <TheNewGuy> don't care
[07:28] <WIGGMPk> qe2eqe: I could argue this all day.. Ubuntu is very "clickable".. but I like to control my OS and hardware
[07:28] <TheNewGuy> I started on CPM a very long time ago.
[07:28] <ahughes> heya, I need a uPnP client application. Coz I want to play from my uPnP server to my ubuntu-ps3. Any suggestions :D
[07:28] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: Right click it -> properties -> make it executable -> click it -> run in terminal
[07:28] <TheNewGuy> comand lines work fine.
[07:28] <tesla_> hey new guy let me give you my number one tip that made things much easier.......when using the terminal for anything TAB will auto complete things for ya.... great for error checking and long filenames
[07:28] <hpierce> I saw someone say they were losing Faith in Ubuntu...
[07:28] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: after you navigate to the folder its saved in (in the terminal of course) run this "sudo sh jre-6u14-linux-i586.bin"
[07:28] <e[X]sodus> I like Ubuntu, i've tried 3 others in the past and were way over my head
[07:29] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: should prompt you for a password, and just put yours in
[07:29] <hpierce> Ubuntu (and Linux) unlike Windows is not about faith if MS will fix it, but about knowledge and the ability to fix it.
[07:29] <qe2eqe> WIGGMPk, Same abstract skills that make you a windows guru make you a linux guru. You spot unique and pertinent strings in error messages and outputs and google them for clues. And I'd argue that windows software suites allow for easier and more competent controll of more parts than linux...
[07:29] <User__> I accidentally the whole ubuntu.
[07:29] <Daskreech> qe2eqe: Eh?
[07:29] <qe2eqe> WIGGMPk, because people make the 80/20 decision when writing drivers, unftly, linux is in the 20
[07:30] <qe2eqe> Ever gotten a driver disk with .rpms?
[07:30] <hpierce> ge2eqe: I come from a time before Google... I can tell you that is not the case among the talented.
[07:30] <TheNewGuy> ok... trying it.
[07:30] <Daskreech> qe2eqe: Yes actaully
[07:30] <e[X]sodus> linux has come such a long way in the last 5-6 years
[07:30] <hpierce> e[X]sodus: I agree it is much more accessible... and that is good :)
[07:30]  * e[X]sodus remembers the google beta lol
[07:31] <WIGGMPk> qe2eqe: your getting out of the scope here.. drivers rely on the manufactor and are influenced by market control and the presence (and time frame) on the scene.. Linux.. written in 1994.. lots of catching up to do.. but enough of this.. its better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:31] <tesla_> my comment has fallen on def ears I see
[07:31] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: So I have 3 missing kernel modules how do I attack this?
[07:31] <qe2eqe> WIGGMPk, but also no, if you follow any kind of strict trust model. That same level of driver control for custom software is akin to unprotected sex in the caveish darkness of no source code.
[07:31] <mike1312> extras are installed, but stil cant run DVD
[07:31] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: which one's are missing?
[07:31] <Daskreech> type1 freetype and nvidia
[07:32] <Daskreech> !tab | You mean this tesla_ ?
[07:32] <n2diy> tesla_: tab completion has been around for awhile.
[07:32] <qe2eqe> WIGGMPk, practical side is... out of scope? thats how you know an ideological zealot. =).
[07:32] <snakdoc> does any modem support linux now ?
[07:32] <snakdoc> without linuxant
[07:32] <WIGGMPk> qe2eqe: out of scope = #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:32] <WIGGMPk> !offtopic
[07:33] <n2diy> snakdoc: what kind of modem are you refering to?
[07:33] <Daskreech> qe2eqe: No just that it's not giving support in a support channel you were pointed to where you can talk about it all you like
[07:33] <snakdoc> dial up modem
[07:33] <tesla_> I know but when I first started using ubuntu I had no idea comming from windoze
[07:33] <qe2eqe> agreeing with hpierce... its about getting dirty hands.
[07:33] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: did it install for you?
[07:33] <n2diy> snakdoc: any externel modem will, don't know about recent internals?
[07:33] <qe2eqe> my bad.
[07:34] <snakdoc> with out special driver externals will work ?
[07:34] <n2diy> tesla_: ok, np.
[07:34] <Daskreech> snakdoc: doubtful
[07:34] <Daskreech> snakdoc: Oh yeah externals work fine
[07:35] <n2diy> tesla_: welcome to Linux/Ubuntu. :)
[07:35] <TheNewGuy> I stuck...
[07:35] <n2diy> can you use sbackup and srestore between an 8.04 box and a 9.04 box?
[07:35] <snakdoc> ok i could make my internal work with driver but was looking for one that had linux support thats all
[07:35] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: running X& It throws three errors with no nvidia module being fatal
[07:35] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: on?
[07:35] <TheNewGuy> wigg, I changed the permission
[07:35] <snakdoc> was looking at building server and was going to install on it thats reason i was asking
[07:36] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: best bet to delete and re-download
[07:36] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: You can use tab in IRC to complete names as well
[07:36] <snakdoc> thanks for all the help
[07:36] <n2diy> snakdoc: yes, they should, they are just another serial device.
[07:36] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: it throws and error on install the nvidia package?
[07:36] <Daskreech> Yes
[07:36] <TheNewGuy> when I right click it to run it in terminal, terminal is not an option in the list
[07:36]  * WIGGMPk cant believe he resorted to proprietary software to burn DVD's
[07:36] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: you trying 173?
[07:36] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: try k3b
[07:36] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Yes
[07:36] <snakdoc> problem i had was that the one i have built in was a winmodem i believe :(
[07:37] <Daskreech> snakdoc: if it's PCI it's a winmodem
[07:37] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: I have.. Gnomebaker, growisofs, makeisofs, Brasero, etc etc etc etc
[07:37] <tesla_> n2diy, thanks ive been using it for almost a year but just recently have started to interact with the community
[07:37] <Daskreech> deeveedee ?
[07:37] <snakdoc> so best bet is a external and i should be in good shape ?
[07:37] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: yes.. k3b, acidburn, etc
[07:38] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: what package names are they?
[07:38] <qe2eqe> WIGGMPk, happens all too often, that resorting. I got a bucket of win only hardware =(
[07:38] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: just open the terminal and navigate to it the file
[07:38] <Daskreech> nivdia-glx-173
[07:39] <n2diy> tesla_: fine business, then you've missed out on a year of the best tech. support in the industry, this channel.
[07:39] <WIGGMPk> qe2eqe: what upsets me is it worked fine in Intrepid.. and just took a dive.. either the driver or dvd+rw-tools.. cause nero linux looks like its going to fail too
[07:40] <tesla_> tis true
[07:40] <qe2eqe> WIGGMPk, alot of time the difference between proprietary apps for hardware use and free.... is configuration req'd. Try and find maybe what the conf defaults in your proprietary working solution are compared to other.
[07:40] <TheNewGuy> wigg?
[07:40] <mobi-sheep> IRSSI HEAVY USERS:   Is there a /set command that will not display user's hostname whenever they join/quit/ban/etc ?
[07:40] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: yes?
[07:41] <TheNewGuy> ok, got to the directory with the file, typed in "sudo sh jre-6u14-linux-i586.bin"  it asked for my pass word.  then said it can't open the file.
[07:41] <qe2eqe> WIGGMPk, yeah, sometimes I wish synaptic was smart enough to roll back only subsections of the package tree to specific dates of known working... it probably is, i just haven't rtfm
[07:41] <WIGGMPk> qe2eqe: its the kernel or package.. cause its failing again
[07:41] <TheNewGuy> when I tried it the second time, it did not ask for the password and said it could not open the file.
[07:42] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: It's on a timer. When you put in your password it remembers it for 10 minutes
[07:42] <swetha> ctrl is not working  my ubuntu 8.04..........
[07:42] <qe2eqe> WIGGMPk, so you're dual booting this thing?
[07:42] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: cause you already authenticated yourself
[07:42] <TheNewGuy> ok
[07:42] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: did you re-download it already?
[07:42] <WIGGMPk> qe2eqe: hell no.. =)
[07:42] <Xuzz> I'm on a GMA950 with a max canvas size of 2048x2028 (for acceleration)...and I have my two monitors positioned "top-of" each other (in xrandr, they are side by side physically). I want to make them appear to X stacked on top but be able to use them as if they were positioned side by side in xrandr (isntead of having to have the mouse go off the top of the screen to switch)
[07:42] <TheNewGuy> ok, doing that now. do I need to change the bin to EXE or something eles?
[07:42] <qe2eqe> WIGGMPk, so what proprietary software you resortin' to?
[07:43] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: no, exe is a windows only thing.. delete the file and redownload it then let me know
[07:43] <WIGGMPk> qe2eqe: nero for linux
[07:43] <WIGGMPk> qe2eqe: it was a test.. to see if it was the software used to burn DVD's.. but its definitely the system
[07:44] <n2diy> can you use sbackup and srestore between an 8.04 box and a 9.04 box?
[07:44] <ubuntu> Is there anybody here willing to help me?
[07:44] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: sec, thinking.. havent forgot about you
[07:44] <TheNewGuy> ok, down loading now.  going to take a few minutes...
[07:44] <ubuntu> Like I am seriously freaking out right now
[07:44] <n2diy> ubuntu, we can't! You haven't asked a question.
[07:45] <qe2eqe> WIGGMPk, Well if nero did it inside the operating system... (going out on a limb here)... the kernel should be ok with burning?
[07:45] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: in the meantime do you still synaptic open?
[07:45] <ubuntu> Bah hold on lemme change it to a proper screen name
[07:45] <TheNewGuy> yes
[07:45] <nellmathew> hey guys i'm not sure who to ask this to, but i just installed ubuntu-tweak.. and it's "package cleaner".. in "clean cache" there's about 100+ .deb packages listed.. whicih i can select and remove.. do i need these? are they there because i did a net-install?..
[07:45] <ubuntu> d
[07:46] <Daskreech> nellmathew: Yes
[07:46] <n2diy> nellmathew: let apt figure that out, sun sudo apt-get clean
[07:46] <TheNewGuy> should I close it?
[07:46] <Daskreech> to the last part no to the first part
[07:46] <qe2eqe> WIGGMPk, maybe nero loads its own modules. Maybe it unloads them? Maybe it just tells whats there how to work right, or has safer settings by default.
[07:46] <hermitmode> http://fullcirclemagazine.org --> read read read ...
[07:46] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: no try the sun-java6-jre install
[07:46] <nellmathew> Daskreech, thanks!
[07:47] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: first try and get rid of everything again.. "sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx-173 nvidia-glx-96 nvidia-173-kernel-source nvidia-96-kernel-source nvidia-173-modaliases nvidia-96-modaliases nvidia-common nvidia-settings"
[07:47]  * Daskreech waves at Cutegirl
[07:47] <WIGGMPk> qe2eqe: sorry was typing.. nero failed to burn..
[07:47] <qe2eqe> WIGGMPk, good news!
[07:47] <ubuntu> Bah screw changing nicks
[07:47] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Here is the fun part it tells me that nvidia-common isn't installed when I grep the installed packages it says it is
[07:48] <Daskreech> ubuntu: type /nick somethingnew
[07:48] <ubuntu> Listen I was running Xp and was attempting to dual boot Ubuntu
[07:48] <TheNewGuy> exactly what do I type in to get a list of files in a directory?  when in terminal
[07:48] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: thats fine.. just take the nvidia-common part out and try and remove all the stuff again
[07:48] <mrmental> There
[07:48] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: ls
[07:48] <qe2eqe> WIGGMPk, I wish you could confirm that the burner is ok hardware wise.
[07:48] <TheNewGuy> k
[07:48] <mrmental> Anyways I was trying to dual boot Xp and Ubuntu
[07:48] <WIGGMPk> qe2eqe: i know it is.. its a brand new replacement from ASUS
[07:48] <n2diy> TheNewGuy: ls, ls -al, etc..
[07:49] <mobi-sheep> !bot | leaf-sheep
[07:49] <mrmental> I was in the process of installing and going through partitioning. I set it up to where 6% of my hdd would be ubuntu and the rest Cp
[07:49] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: done
[07:49] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: returned no errors?
[07:50] <qe2eqe> WIGGMPk, have you googled for specific issues with linux and this guy? Firmware updates?
[07:50] <mrmental> It was partitioning, but was stuck at 0%, so I waited about ten minutes and then it says something along the lines of 'Failed to Partition, Action aborted'
[07:50] <TheNewGuy> ok, I am not in the correct desk top ... I guess.
[07:50] <qe2eqe> WIGGMPk, are you using a known working cable? =/ had that happen before
[07:50] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Nope purged dkms and fakeroot
[07:50] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: :-D who's are you in?
[07:51] <WIGGMPk> qe2eqe: yes.. and there is a bug report opened in launchpad confirming the issue
[07:51] <mrmental> I say to myself 'Ok thats weird, I am just going to restart my computer and forget about linux for now'
[07:51] <n2diy> mrmental: how big is the hd?
[07:51] <mrmental> 500gb
[07:51] <TheNewGuy> ok... I switched.   wow... I am reaching back to my cpm days.  can't belive I am remembering this stuff.
[07:51] <WIGGMPk> qe2eqe: its an internal drive.. sata for a laptop.. and yes.. dont worry about it.. I know what the problem is but cant fix it
[07:51] <leaf-sheep> Drive. Laptop. Ubuntu.
[07:52] <TheNewGuy> anyone remember the cpm operating system?
[07:52] <n2diy> mrmental: if your talking to me, use my nick, so it gets highlighted.
[07:52] <mrmental> Sorry
[07:52] <mrmental> n2diy: My hdd is 500gb
[07:52] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: ok, you removed dkms or it auto went with.. ??
[07:52] <qe2eqe> hermitmode, thats a tiny little unintuitive link that says 'english'.... as the final step in retrieving issue
[07:52] <Daskreech> auto went
[07:53] <TheNewGuy> holy crapp... I'm old
[07:53] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: it download yet?
[07:53] <mrmental> I restart my computer and go to boot Xp, it gets past the scrolling bar screen and then goes to the 'Checking C: if you wish to skip press any key now'
[07:53] <TheNewGuy> I think my linux has gas.   it says inflating
[07:53] <mrmental> Then it flicks Blue Screen and restarts
[07:53] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: New nick then?
[07:54] <TheNewGuy> down loaded and just ran it.
[07:54] <n2diy> mrmental: so how many gigs did your give Ubuntu? 6% is unusual, recently I partitioned, and I wasn't asked what percent to give you Ubuntu, but how many gigs?
[07:54] <TheNewGuy> new nick?
[07:54] <mrmental> About 30 gigs?
[07:54] <mrmental> n2diy: About 30 gigs
[07:54] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: lol.. so your good now?
[07:55] <TheNewGuy> not sure, it ran and installed.  do I need to reboot?
[07:55] <TheNewGuy> How can I check to see if it is installed?
[07:55] <n2diy> mrmental: ok, but did you tell it 30 gigs, or 6 percent?
[07:55] <mrmental> I run the Ubuntu live cd and go to check my hdd and it says 'Failed to Mount'
[07:55] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: no need to reboot. Type java
[07:56] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: or open something that uses java
[07:56] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: you might have to update your alternatives...
[07:56] <mrmental> n2diy: I used the slider, I had it to where ubuntu had 30gigs (Up above the slider it had the percentage)
[07:56] <qe2eqe> mrmental, was it originally a primary partition, or extended, that you installed ubuntu to?
[07:57] <TheNewGuy> where do i type java?
[07:57] <ChrisD> Hey guys
[07:57] <Daskreech> terminal
[07:57] <n2diy> mrmental: ok, after you re-sized the partiton, did you make it bootable, format it, etc...?
[07:57] <qe2eqe> mrmental, also, what does fdisk say about this disk that doesn
[07:57]  * ChrisD needs help with eeebox display drivers (intel gma 950 i believe)
[07:58] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: ok run "sudo apt-get --purge autoremove"
[07:58] <TheNewGuy> still showing the old version.  but in terminal it came up.
[07:58] <ChrisD> Can anyone please help?
[07:58] <qe2eqe> ChrisD, state your issue?
[07:58] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Did
[07:58] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: in the terminal... type "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[07:58] <mrmental> n2diy: Sorry but I am not quite as computer literate as I thought I was, I dont know what fdisk is. There was no option I dont think for bootable/format or anything, I just used the slider, it all looked good and I pressed 'Next'
[07:58] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: then pick the one you just installed
[07:58] <ChrisD> qe2eqe, well, I just installed eeebuntu, but everything related to video performance lags
[07:59] <TheNewGuy> There is only 1 program which provides java
[07:59] <TheNewGuy> (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.
[07:59] <ChrisD> qe2eqe, even when i switch desktops (I've got an eeebox b202, everything works out of the box, it just lags like hell)
[07:59] <n2diy> mrmental: that wasn't me suggesting fdisk. Ok, after you re-zized the disk, and you run next, the new partition info is displayed, right?
[08:00] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: ok.. "sudo apt-get install nvidia-173-kernel-source nvidia-173-modaliases nvidia-glx-173"
[08:00] <qe2eqe> ChrisD,  open terminal, type glxinfo | grep render
[08:00] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: type "java --version"
[08:00] <mrmental> n2diy: No it wouldn't resize, it said 'Failed to Partition, Action Aborting'
[08:00] <hpierce> can someone suggest a ubuntu oriented dev channel?
[08:00] <qe2eqe> ChrisD, let me know the just of that line
[08:00] <qe2eqe> ChrisD, let me know the jist*, even, i.e., summarize it if you must
[08:01] <ChrisD> qe2eqe, no jist, just this "direct rendering: Yes
[08:01] <ChrisD> OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
[08:01] <ChrisD> "
[08:01] <TheNewGuy> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: version
[08:01] <TheNewGuy> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: version
[08:01] <TheNewGuy> 	at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217)
[08:01] <TheNewGuy> 	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
[08:01] <TheNewGuy> 	at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)
[08:01] <TheNewGuy> 	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:323)
[08:01] <mrmental> qe2eqe: I guess it wouldn't be a secondary partition, I already had Xp installed and well in use. Most of my hdd was filled
[08:01] <FloodBot2> TheNewGuy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:01] <qe2eqe> ChrisD, try running glxgears, does that lag?
[08:01] <mrmental> qe2eqe: I guess it wouldn't be a secondary partition, I already had Xp installed and well in use. Most of my hdd was filled
[08:02] <ChrisD> qe2eqe, 60-100 fps
[08:02] <qe2eqe> mrmental, hm. Did you resize the partition? Sometimes that gets bugged.
[08:02] <TheNewGuy> sorry.. been using linux for 4 hours.  3 hours trying to get java working
[08:02] <Daskreech> TheNewGuy: really/
[08:02] <TheNewGuy> yea... 4 hours total
[08:02] <Daskreech> that's unusally long
[08:02] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: honestly.. its 30 million times easier installing it from the repositories
[08:03] <ChrisD> TheNewGuy, it should install itself in firefox
[08:03] <TheNewGuy> ok.
[08:03] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Speaking of easier from the repos
[08:03] <TheNewGuy> ok,
[08:03] <mrmental> qe2eqe: I believe that is what I was attempting to do? I was just trying to install Ubuntu so I could dual boot Xp and Ubuntu
[08:03] <qe2eqe> ChrisD, I think your problem is one of two things. Either you don't understand exactly how not powerful your netbook is, or a fan or duct or something on your machine isn't working, your processor is running slower to keep from crisping.
[08:03] <Daskreech> reinstall a driver?
[08:03] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: ok.. "sudo apt-get install nvidia-173-kernel-source nvidia-173-modaliases nvidia-glx-173"
[08:03] <TheNewGuy> ok, well I am don with it for now.   how can I install my updates?
[08:04] <n2diy> hpierce: ubuntu-kernel?
[08:04] <qe2eqe> lol @ newguy. Too many options for java, too many...
[08:04] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: do you know why you need this .bin file? EXACTLY why??
[08:04] <Rub> Hello!! My name is Rubén Ahumada from Mendoza. I study in institute "Nuevo Cuyo" with the teacher Sergio Alonso
[08:04] <ChrisD> qe2eqe, well, I ran a live cd of 6.10 on an AMD K6-2 400mhz with 384 ram and a 4 meg video card and it ran a lot smoother :(
[08:04] <qe2eqe> mrmental, well, I've never had an issue, but alot of things that can resize partitions also have disclaimers like 'this isn't always pretty'
[08:05] <redstick> Does anyone know of a repository with SNORT or int?
[08:05] <Daskreech> !hi | Rub
[08:05] <redstick> on it*
[08:05] <qe2eqe> ChrisD, =/. What's it?
[08:05] <ChrisD> qe2eqe, maybe hardware acceleration if off or something?
[08:05] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: you can do updates 2 ways.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" from the command line.. or System > Administration > Update Manager
[08:05] <TheNewGuy> the program that I am runing sent me to the java.com to down load it because the version loaded was incorrect.
[08:05] <qe2eqe> ChrisD, hardware acceleration = direct rendering
[08:05] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: run a dkmsbuild first
[08:05] <ChrisD> qe2eqe, I meant Ubuntu 6.10
[08:06] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: do you personally install ANY other copies of java or any OTHER packages on your machine?
[08:06] <mrmental> qe2eqe: I don't know, I am just a bit frustrated right now, my hdd is failing to mount now, like when I try to access it under the live cd, it says 'Failed to Mount'
[08:06] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: DKMS should do it automatically
[08:06] <qe2eqe> ChrisD, i mean, whats slow
[08:06] <Daskreech> it's not how do I do it manually?
[08:06] <ChrisD> qe2eqe, eh, I guess? Sorry haven't used Linux for a while now, but even xp runs a lot better, at least firefox scrolling doesn't lag like mad
[08:06] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: i have no idea
[08:06] <TheNewGuy> no I did not install anything else... oh, I tried to install flash.
[08:06] <TheNewGuy> it is no long in the update manager
[08:06] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: humor me for 30 mins..
[08:06] <ChrisD> qe2eqe, well, everything except the terminal
[08:07] <TheNewGuy> sure
[08:07] <Rub> I new in Ubuntu, i want learn much about linux and ubuntu
[08:07] <TheNewGuy> by the way... thanks for all the help.
[08:07] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: run this in terminal.. make sure you close synaptic or update manager before this.... "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[08:07] <qe2eqe> mrmental, well, there should be at least two volumes that it lets your try to mount. If windows didn't eat linux, then the latter should be gracefully mounted. Either way, your windows should be ntfs, which sometimes has issues in linux if you don't shut your windows down proper
[08:07] <Rub> my english is not very good, sorry
[08:07] <mrmental> I mean I can paste the details as to why it cannot mount
[08:08] <TheNewGuy> I am going to get a basic book tomarrow... I need to learn the basics.  although you guys got me pretty far.  I know 100 time more now then when i started
[08:08] <Nicolas__> Hi! I need to Partition my Windows Partition to make a larger partition for Ubuntu. (I'm on a HP Laptop.) Does anyone know any good programs to use?
[08:08] <TheNewGuy> ok, what will this do wig
[08:08] <n2diy> hpierce: does this disk have data on it that you need to recover?
[08:08] <ubuntunom> Nicolas__: use Live Cd and GParted that comes with it
[08:09] <qe2eqe> ChrisD, I don't know what to say. I've never heard of eeebuntu. If you have an eeepc, I'd recommend modifying or at least learning defaults from the canonical eeepc distribution.
[08:09] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: did you run that command?? the package name "ubuntu-restricted-extras" is called a meta package.. it will download and install a series of packages most commonly desired that are NOT included with Ubuntu (due to their philosipy or however you spell that word) including.. adobe flash, sun java jre, etc
[08:09] <Rub> i need basic help for somebody to approve a matter
[08:09] <ubuntunom> Nicolas__: u find it under system as partition manager
[08:09] <Nicolas__> Ubuntunom: I used Wubi to install.
[08:09] <tenach> Rub: what's up?
[08:09] <qe2eqe> mrmental,  put the details over at pastebin
[08:10] <causasui> Can someone here help me set up pureftpd?
[08:10] <Rub> tenach: i study Analisis of sistems in mendoza-argentina
[08:10] <ubuntunom> Nicolas__: you could dload GParted Live CD then
[08:10] <Rub> i need teach somebody to approve me
[08:10] <qe2eqe> Analysis of Systems =)
[08:10] <ChrisD> qe2eqe, well it's a distro based on Ubuntu, it's just that they say everthing has been optimized for the eee series of netbooks, that is sort of true, everything works out of the box, even wifi, but X lags, even in Xfce4
[08:10] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: says there is no source
[08:10] <Rub> sorry for my english
[08:10] <cheebz> hullo
[08:10] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: trust me.. one of the first things I do when I install ubuntu.. is install ubuntu-restricted-extras first.. then I install ubuntu-tweak (which will give you tons of software to easily install from the application and give you tweaks for the system)
[08:11] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: damit.. do you have the headers installed????
[08:11] <libtech> ChrisD: i have the same problem i think, im using a 1000he
[08:11] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Umm Dunno which headers?
[08:11] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: cd /usr/src and list the directory.. do you see.. "linux-headers-2.6.28-13-generic" and the other one?
[08:11] <tenach> Rub: What do you need approved?
[08:11] <snakdoc> ubuntu-tweak is that package name ?
[08:11] <Nicolas__> ubuntunom: I heard it doesn't work good with HP. I have the gparted cd downloaded, anyway I can mount the files instead of having to burn them? I'm low on CDs.
[08:11] <ChrisD> libtech, yeah, something tells me I really should have went for Mandriva 2k9
[08:11] <causasui> Can someone here help me set up pureftpd?
[08:11] <WIGGMPk> snakdoc: yes.. but you need to add repositories to do it
[08:12] <qe2eqe> Rub, no problem, take a look at my spanish. Como podemos ayuday? (Perdona me por mi espanol terrible)
[08:12] <mrmental> qe2eqe: Pastebin?
[08:12] <snakdoc> ok i can find them
[08:12] <qe2eqe> ayudar* dammit
[08:12] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: Ah wait I needed something more for the driver support
[08:12] <Rub> a test of systems analysis
[08:12] <ChrisD> Anyways, thanks for the help guys, I'mma just try another distro or the official Ubuntu, see if those work better
[08:12] <ChrisD> libtech, good luck bro
[08:12] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: look at this site http://ubuntu-tweak.com/ to install ubuntu-tweak.. click download and it will walk you through adding "repositories" and downloading the application.. let me know when the restricted extras get done so we can see if it fixed your issue
[08:12] <snakdoc> trying to restore system at moment anyway was almost done and system rebooted when i didn't wan tit to
[08:12] <WIGGMPk> snakdoc: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[08:12] <snakdoc> want it*
[08:12] <qe2eqe> mrmental,  http://pastebin.com/
[08:13] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: yea.. you need the kernel headers to compile it.. lmfao.. sorry its late I should of got that before
[08:13] <TheNewGuy> wigg it says could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 resources temporarily unavailable)
[08:13] <LiraNuna> I setuped dav_svn long time ago (~6 months ago) and it all worked until I setupped apparmor for apache2. now it doesn't work when using svn client but works on firefox or wget. disabling apparmor doesn't resolve
[08:13] <Daskreech> umm
[08:13] <Daskreech> ok
[08:13] <Rub> can help solve a basic problem or question?
[08:13] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: do you have Synpatic Package Manager or Update Manager going??
[08:13] <tenach> Rub: Sure
[08:13] <tenach> Rub: I can try
[08:13] <TheNewGuy> similar thing about administration directory... "is another process using it?"
[08:13] <mrmental> qe2eqe: Sorry for being such a n00b but can you help me through this pastebin stuff?
[08:13] <SirMoo> TheNewGuy I'm having the same problem...
[08:13] <snakdoc> thanks i look and see hwat it has to offer
[08:13] <SirMoo> And nothing is running.
[08:13] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: what's thepackage name for those?
[08:14] <WIGGMPk> SirMoo: nothing in the terminal updating or package managers installing?? TheNewGuy
[08:14] <SirMoo> Nope. Nothing.
[08:14] <TheNewGuy> not that I know of
[08:14] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: what kernel you running?
[08:14] <SirMoo> Thts whats weird. D=
[08:14] <Daskreech> 2.6.28-11
[08:14] <SirMoo> TheNewGuy, happen to try and install java by chance? >.>
[08:14] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: SirMoo best to restart
[08:14] <TheNewGuy> I get a "hit" and then "ign" on some of them.
[08:14] <qe2eqe> mrmental, to conserve space in the irc channel, it's polite to put blocks of text in a url. That way I can click and look at your exact hdd mounting error, but these guys don't get hit with bookoo lines of terminalese to scroll around
[08:14] <SirMoo> WIGGMPk, did twice and nothing happened.
[08:14] <Rub> tenach you need me to do a query to get ubuntu. linux?
[08:14] <Rub> tenach necesito que tu me hagas una pregunta hacerca de ubuntu . linux
[08:15] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic linux-headers-2.6.28-11" only get generic if your running it
[08:15] <Rub> para aprobar mi asignatura de sistemas operativos
[08:15] <qe2eqe> rub, what is the problem?
[08:15] <mrmental> qe2eqe: Ah ok thank you give me a second then and I will get you that url
[08:15] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: nope running server
[08:15] <WIGGMPk> SirMoo: restarted the whole computer?
[08:15] <SirMoo> Yes.
[08:15] <SirMoo> Twice.
[08:15] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: lol.. why? nvm.. well then install the base and the server
[08:15] <Guest51792> I am wondering how, in ubuntu 9.04, what command do I run to upgrade to kernel 2.6.28-13?
[08:15] <Rub> qe2eqe necesito que me hagas alguna pregunta hacerca de ubuntu para aprobar una materia de mi universidad
[08:16] <SirMoo> Should I try a hard restart?
[08:16] <WIGGMPk> SirMoo: not sure..than
[08:16] <WIGGMPk> SirMoo: prolly
[08:16] <WIGGMPk> Guest51792: sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:16] <neocortex> Hello! I am running Jaunty on my ThinkPad T61. Every time when I (re)boot my bluetooth is on. I unticked it in both Preferences > Startup Applications and Administration > Services. Also, I put zeros in /etc/defaults/bluetooth. In brief, how to make bluetooth off at startup, with possibility to turn it on if needed?
[08:16] <SirMoo> Because twice I've used the restart function.
[08:16] <Rub> estoy estudiando hacerca de ubuntu y mi profesor me pide que ayude a alguien a resolver un problema o responder una pregunta
[08:16] <snakdoc>  Guest51792: sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:16] <Guest51792> Thanks, snakdoc
[08:16] <qe2eqe> rub, necesito googlar 'aprobar', 'hagar'... my spanish is poor. What is the question???
[08:17] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: ok do your thing and restart so I know if im right or not lol
[08:17] <tenach>
[08:17] <tenach> Usted necesita responde algunas preguntas para que su universidad adoptará Ubuntu?
[08:17] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: did you restart? or fix the problem?
[08:17] <Daskreech> well dkms is running
[08:17] <Rub> iḿ not questions. i wont answer to you about ubuntu. some basic
[08:17] <TheNewGuy> how can I see what is running on my system.  for windows I would do a "ctrl alt delet"
[08:17] <Rub> is a test for me
[08:17] <snakdoc> Guest51792: btw you have to reboot for new kernel to start working
[08:18] <tenach> Oh!
[08:18] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: System > Administration > System Monitor
[08:18] <tenach> So you would like us to ask you questions to see if you can answer them?
[08:18] <WIGGMPk> yea.. i have to reboot now too lol
[08:18] <satellite> Does anyone have a TOSHIBA r500 portege
[08:18] <TheNewGuy> ok, going to restart.. BRB
[08:18] <Rub> yes!!! thank you!!
[08:19] <tenach> Basic questions?
[08:19] <mrmental> qe2eqe: http://pastebin.com/d7508fec
[08:19] <Rub> basic please, yes
[08:19] <tenach> Well, the first one I'm always asked is this: What is Ubuntu?
[08:20] <hermitmode> mga bisdak pang mata namo hehehe.. roflmao
[08:20] <snakdoc> Guest51792: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade i made a mistake if you aren't root sorry about that
[08:20] <flatoutN00b> how do you become root?
[08:20] <Rub> yes,like this tenach!
[08:20] <Rub> thank you
[08:20] <neocortex> None to help with bluetooth?
[08:20] <tenach> You are welcome.
[08:21] <snakdoc> the sudo in command will fix that for you
[08:21] <n2diy> flatoutN00b: sudo
[08:21] <hermitmode> flatoutN00b : just use sudo or you can use x root terminal...
[08:21] <Rub> Tenach: Ubuntu is a community developed operating system that is perfect for laptops, desktops and servers.
[08:21] <flatoutN00b> damn, sudo again
[08:21] <hermitmode> flatoutN00b : #sudo command (After that it will prompt you with your password)
[08:22] <tenach> Why should I use Ubuntu, Rub?
[08:22] <hermitmode> flatoutN00b : #rum x root terminal if you don't want sudo
[08:22] <flatoutN00b> sudo appears to be my arch nemesis so far, followed closely by make files
[08:22]  * flatoutN00b shakes fist at make files
[08:22] <jota-> How can I get Jaunty server's console to display foreing chars correctly(á,ö,ñ,etc)?
[08:22] <Shay5482> hello , can someone recommend me on good word processor other than openoffice ?
[08:22] <snakdoc> flatoutN00b: you can run sudo -i and get in x root
[08:23] <libtech> make files are good
[08:23] <tenach> Shay5482: What do you use it for?
[08:23] <hermitmode> flatoutN00b : run gksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator @ Run Application
[08:23] <qe2eqe> Shay5482, I'm fond of abiword, but make sure to turn on autosave because its crashy sometimes. Also huge fan of WikiDpad, but it's not really all purpose.
[08:23] <flatoutN00b> I have never run a make file that didn't error
[08:23] <mrmental> qe2eqe: Did you get that?
[08:23] <Shay5482> tenach: open .rtf format (original document that saved on microsoft office ) when i open it with openoffice the document not opened well
[08:24] <yellabs> dual screen look really funny
[08:24] <yellabs> :)
[08:24] <qe2eqe> mrmental, yeah, checking now. Was busy googling spanish verbs.
[08:24] <snakdoc> flatoutN00b: after time those go away because you are missing files that are need to build project after time you start to collect them
[08:24] <gatto> Shay5482 use .doc ext.
[08:24] <Rub> because is a software free, for you community friendly. Ubuntu is by far the best Linux variant available today for hardware recognition.
[08:24] <mrmental> qe2eqe: Take your time, any help is appreciated
[08:25] <flatoutN00b> been trying to install aircrack, but aircrack seems to require openssl, so after three hours I figured out how to install openssl, but apparently I did it wrong because aircrack still says the directories don't exist
[08:25]  * flatoutN00b shakes fist at make files
[08:25] <Rub> Easy to Dual Boot: If you’ve got an extra partition you are in luck.
[08:25] <snakdoc> flatoutN00b: when building project you can run sudo apt-get build-dep <APP NAME> to get it to install most the files you will need
[08:25] <tenach> Good job so far Rub :)
[08:25] <Shay5482> gatto: u mean i should save the filename in microsoft office at .doc format ?
[08:25] <Daskreech> WIGGMPk: X is back
[08:25] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: thank god.. it worked then eh?
[08:25] <tenach> Will my .doc files and other Microsoft Office files work?
[08:25] <SirMoo> WIGGMPk the hard restart worked. =D
[08:25] <Daskreech> Yeah but still no pretty stuff
[08:25] <gatto> well
[08:25] <Rub> than you tenach!!!
[08:25] <Daskreech> well something for tomorrow
[08:25] <WIGGMPk> SirMoo: good to hear
[08:25] <xhema> why does the sound in ubuntu always have to be so painful
[08:26] <qe2eqe> mrmental, you're trying to mount your windows partition. We know that because  NTFS is microsoft's filesystem. It means just what it says. You have two options here
[08:26] <Futasay> can someone please help me?
[08:26] <Rub> thank you for understand my problem
[08:26] <xhema> how many mixer items do we really need?
[08:26] <gatto> .doc format work with openoffice and microsoft office
[08:26] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: sorry it took so long for me to think about the headers
[08:26] <koshari> Rub what are you basing that ubuntu is best for hardware recigition on?
[08:26] <qe2eqe> rub, how is it free?
[08:26] <mrmental> qe2eqe: Yes it would be really easy but I can't BOOT Xp, per se
[08:26] <Rub> and for my poor english
[08:26] <flatoutN00b> snakdoc: I have no idea what you said, but it sounds like it could be helpful if I understood it :-)
[08:26] <qe2eqe> mrmental, why can't you?
[08:26] <tenach> Rub: Your English is pretty good :D
[08:26] <gatto> .doc may more smaller then .rtf
[08:26] <n2diy> xhema: why would you ask a subjective question?
[08:26] <qe2eqe> mrmental, I like easy solutions, and that would fix it, just booting and shutting down proper
[08:26] <TheNewGuy> made it back.
[08:27] <WIGGMPk> Daskreech: well I guess im gonna compile the 2.6.30 kernel *sigh* why are you running the server image btw?
[08:27] <xhema> n2diy, how can I get my source recording working on ubuntu? it worked, but I cannot find the settings
[08:27] <kebomix> i installed script to convert audio extensions but , i want it to appear on right click of audio file , not to go right click >> scripts >> avconvert
[08:27] <snakdoc> flatoutN00b: maybe someone here thats been using ubuntu longer can explain better than i can
[08:27] <xhema> when n00bs use this thing, they are frustratd
[08:27] <Rub> Ubuntu is available free of charge and we can send you a CD of the latest version
[08:27] <WIGGMPk> TheNewGuy: awesome.. now install that package.. "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" from the command line
[08:27] <flatoutN00b> anyone have aircrack installed?
[08:27] <Rub> Ubuntu CDs contain only free software applications; we encourage you to use free and open source software
[08:27] <TheNewGuy> ok, was gonna ask for that... :-)
[08:28] <mrmental> qe2eqe: It attempts to boot, gets right past the  the scrolling bar screen then it gives me soemthing like 'Checking C: Press any key to cancel' at which point it goes to a Blue Screen of Death for like 1 millisecond and the machine restarts
[08:28] <n2diy> xhema: what is the source, and what app. are you recording it with?
[08:28] <gatto> GNOME vs. XFCE what's the better?
[08:28] <qe2eqe> Rub, I'm very fond of the gratis and libre distinction. =/ What is the advantage of libre?
[08:28] <snakdoc> flatoutN00b: i use to but its been a while back whats error message use http://paste.ubuntu.com if its long
[08:28] <kebomix>  i installed script to convert audio extensions but , i want it to appear on right click of audio file , not to go right click >> scripts >> avconvert  , how to do that ?
[08:28] <xhema> n2diy, any app. source is a front panel mic. app is the sound recorder