[00:00] <oren> bash: alsa: command not found
[00:00] <contrast> CoCaInE: You're missing the / at the beginning of the second home ;-)
[00:00] <CoCaInE> wtf :P sry, i got to finish it and im tired
[00:00] <CoCaInE> noobish me
[00:00] <contrast> CoCaInE: heh, np
[00:01] <oren> another problem im having is my resolution is maxed at 1024x800
[00:01] <oren> i have a 1920x1600 monitor
[00:01] <contrast> oren: Weird. Not sure what else to tell ya', besides checking this thread - http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f24/official-austin-mini-meet-october-7th-195610/
[00:01] <oren> but the slider doesnt go that high?
[00:01] <contrast> oren: Did you install the drivers for your video card?
[00:02] <oren> yeah
[00:02] <oren> nvida
[00:02] <contrast> try Alt+F2 -> nvidia-settings
[00:02] <contrast> See if it'll let you set it higher from there
[00:03] <oren> contrast: thank you! worked!
[00:04] <contrast> np
[00:07] <oren> contrast: i have a usb drive and it will not let me write to it?
[00:08] <contrast> Does it show up on the desktop?
[00:08] <oren> yeap
[00:08] <oren> my friend used it to boot/instal some other linux prog
[00:09] <oren> thinks its et now?
[00:09] <contrast> et?
[00:09] <oren> ext3
[00:09] <contrast> Ahh, yeah, probably... Was he logged in under your account when he installed this stuff?
[00:10] <oren> yeah
[00:10] <contrast> And is there actual free space on it?
[00:10] <oren> i just want to erase sstuff
[00:10] <oren> says aces denied when i try
[00:10] <contrast> Ohh. I'd imagine the reason you're having trouble there is the stuff you want to erase was created by him, on his computer.
[00:11] <contrast> Meaning he owns it. So the stuff can only be deleted by either him, or root
[00:11] <contrast> So bring up Konsole again
[00:12] <contrast> or actually, just Alt+F2 -> kdesudo dolphin
[00:12] <oren> could not run
[00:12] <contrast> oop... d3lphin
[00:13] <contrast> Just be *very* careful with that ;-)
[00:13] <oren> Could not run the specified command.
[00:13] <contrast> erm... what release of kubuntu are you on?
[00:13] <oren> love that in linux i can highlight and copy the dialog box!
[00:13] <oren> the one under the latest
[00:13] <oren> how do i check?
[00:14] <contrast> heh, yeah. all kinds of little niceties like that
[00:14] <contrast> not sure :-D
[00:14] <contrast> oh, gutsy, i'm guessing.
[00:14] <Jucato> !version
[00:14] <ubot3> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[00:14] <contrast> grep -i gutsy /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:15] <contrast> yeah, that's probably a better way. :-P
[00:15] <oren> !version
[00:15] <ubot3> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[00:15] <oren> release?
[00:18] <contrast> what's the location of the usb stick (as in, what's after /media in the location bar when you click on it on the desktop)?
[00:18] <oren> i says media/disk
[00:18] <contrast> well, let's just do this. Alt+F2 -> kdesu konqueror /media/disk
[00:19] <oren> ok
[00:19] <oren> entered my password
[00:19] <contrast> a piece of advice: delete what you intend to delete, then immediately close that window. :-)
[00:20] <contrast> having a file manager opened with root privileges is very dangerous.
[00:20] <oren> ok highlighted it all then deleted
[00:21] <ahmos> contrast r u there?
[00:21] <contrast> just a little fyi, you could alternately run "sudo rm -rf /media/disk" from Konsole and that'd achieve the same thing
[00:21] <contrast> ahmos: any luck?
[00:21] <ahmos> yeah
[00:21] <contrast> erm /media/disk/*
[00:21] <contrast> the /* is very important
[00:21] <oren> so what do i do?
[00:22] <oren> still said acess is denied but i didnt ad a * in anyhting
[00:22] <contrast> but great care should always be taken when using rm (remove) with the recursive (-r) and force (-f) options
[00:22] <oren> sudo rm -rf /media/disk/*
[00:22] <oren> ?
[00:22] <contrast> oren: oh, nevermind all that. if you already deleted everything from within Konqueror, you shouldn't need to do that
[00:23] <ahmos> I've logged from windows ,copied the file on a flash memory,deleted it from it's folder, logged in kubuntu,copied the file to its folder again then re edited it..
[00:23] <contrast> oren: Right-click on the stick's icon on the desktop. Do you see an option for mount or unmount?
[00:23] <ahmos> thank you again
[00:23] <contrast> glad to help :-)
[00:23] <ahmos> ;)
[00:24] <oren> there is a saftley remove option
[00:24] <contrast> oren: Try that, then unplug and plug it back in... Not sure why this would be doing this *scratches head*
[00:25] <oren> acess still denied
[00:27] <contrast> oren: Still got Konsole open?
[00:28] <oren> i can open it?
[00:28] <contrast> ok... run "ls -Rlha /media/disk" from there
[00:29] <oren> ls: /media/disk/.Trash-0: Permission denied
[00:30] <contrast> there's the culprit, methinks
[00:30] <contrast> sudo mv /media/disk/.Trash-0 ~
[00:30] <oren> ok i think thats doing something
[00:31] <oren> still running
[00:31] <contrast> it's moving that .Trash-0 folder to your home directory
[00:31] <oren> that alt space thing is soo cool
[00:31] <oren> windows doesnt have that
[00:32] <contrast> oren: indeed. Ctrl+C when you've got it up to configure it. took me forever to figure that out
[00:33] <oren> access still denied
[00:34] <contrast> try the ls command again (you can scroll through previously run commands in the terminal by hitting the up arrow)
[00:36] <oren> permision still denied
[00:37] <contrast> ok, try that command again but with sudo at the beginning
[00:37] <contrast> when you first popped the stick in, did a dialog or anything come up?
[00:46] <epssi> im looking for someone with kopete silcplugin skills
[00:52] <ross> ?
[00:53] <epssi> where are the server publickeys stored?
[00:55] <derdui_> Hi does anybody know, wer i can give my printer the right usb slot?
[00:56] <kgoetz> pardon?
[00:56] <derdui_> it has problems to open the usb port
[00:56] <tekteen> derdui_: it should auto detect it
[00:57] <tekteen> when it is plugged into a diff usb port it will have issues it you go by which port it is
[00:57] <tekteen> if*
[00:59] <derdui_> well, i have installed a canon ip2200 in cups i see it, but it doesnt print.... in the kde menue i cant elect local printer. and in the errors log, is printed, cannot open usb port.... but with lsusb, is see a canon on bus 002 device3
[01:10] <Kabuto_Kun> hi ppl!
[01:10] <tekteen> hi
[01:10] <eddieftw> hello Kabuto_Kun
[01:10] <unix_lappy> anyone know if ubuntu has LAMP server images setup already for download?
[01:11] <Kabuto_Kun> wow im triying   so hard to know more about this OS
[01:11] <tekteen> unix_lappy: the server cd installs lamp (as an option)
[01:11] <Kabuto_Kun> lol im fightin in google looking for hlsw for linux
[01:11] <unix_lappy> tekteen: then do they have server VM images?
[01:11] <eddieftw> lshw?
[01:12] <Kabuto_Kun> hlsw
[01:12] <Bryan_Sierra> how do you change the repo's in kubuntu?
[01:12] <eddieftw> unix_lappy: yes. ubuntu.com/releases should be the name of the directory you're looking for
[01:12] <tekteen> !repo|Bryan_Sierra
[01:12] <ubot3> Bryan_Sierra: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[01:12] <unix_lappy> eddieftw: Error - Page Not Found.
[01:12] <tekteen> how many ubotus are there! what happened to ubotu and ubotwo?
[01:12] <Kabuto_Kun> hey guys some one know hlsw that one for serves in games?
[01:13] <eddieftw> one sec.
[01:13] <Apple_Cat> Bryan_Sierra: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:13] <eddieftw> http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[01:13] <eddieftw> thats the one
[01:14] <Kabuto_Kun> O_O
[01:14] <tekteen> Kabuto_Kun: I looked it up. It does not work. It looks like it might work with cedega (which costs money and is not reliable)
[01:14] <unix_lappy> eddieftw: those are install isos, not virtual machine isos.
[01:14] <eddieftw> unix_lappy: no it's AN iso.
[01:14] <eddieftw> you use that iso in a VM
[01:14] <eddieftw> same as an install
[01:15] <Kabuto_Kun> so some one know about hlsw for linux?
[01:15] <unix_lappy> eddieftw: ahh, yea i but i guess I meant images that already have a prebuilt lamp server ready to go.
[01:16] <tekteen> unix_lappy: I found an unofficial one here http://www.jcinacio.com/down/vmware/ubuntu-server-7.10-1/VMware-UbuntuServer-7.10.7z
[01:17] <tekteen> or here http://www.vmplanet.net/?q=node/22
[01:17] <tekteen> unix_lappy: these are unofficial
[01:17] <unix_lappy> tekteen: http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/Ubuntu-7.10-server-i386.zip
[01:17] <unix_lappy> official i guess :-)
[01:21] <Kabuto_Kun> guys im looking for something
[01:22] <Kabuto_Kun> like Hlsw who let u get in in any game serve but u need to have the ip
[01:23] <dick-richardson> looking for a good soundcard that'll work out of the box...any suggestions?
[01:23] <tekteen> dick-richardson: most will work
[01:24] <dick-richardson> I've got a bgears enspirer right now that doesn't :/
[01:24] <unix_lappy> dick-richardson: you should just fork the cash and get a hardware surround sound.
[01:24] <unix_lappy> if you're serious about keeping your ears happy and doing some production.
[01:24] <mixed> I think I just found a bug!  Minimized appz won't show up in my taskbar :-(
[01:24] <dick-richardson> unix_lappy: still need a card of some sort to push it, won't i?
[01:24] <unix_lappy> dick-richardson: push?
[01:25] <dick-richardson> I have the speakers for surround...I need a good soundcard
[01:26] <dick-richardson> although...the card doesn't have to support surround sound. Just looking for good quality sound
[01:26] <dick-richardson> that works :P
[01:26] <unix_lappy> dick-richardson: like i said, there's soft SS and then there's hardware supported ss
[01:27] <dick-richardson> either way is fine...so long as it sounds good and works. have any suggestions?
[01:27] <unix_lappy> dick-richardson: #lad is the place you want to be.
[01:27] <unix_lappy> I havent done any production on a LONG time.
[01:29] <dick-richardson> ok. how about a good sound card with native support?
[01:29] <mixed> anyone know if compiz works in kubuntu?
[01:30] <unix_lappy> dick-richardson: virtually anything intel
[01:30] <tekteen> mixed: I got it to work
[01:30] <tekteen> mixed: no problem
[01:31] <mixed> tekteen, I reinstalled my distro
[01:31] <mixed> tekteen, now I'm unable to see minimized appz in my taskbar, go figure! LoL
[01:33] <tekteen> mixed: lol
[01:34] <tekteen> mixed: hardy?
[01:34] <oren> how can i get my back button to work on my mouse?
[01:34] <oren> any ideas?
[01:39] <brandon_> I'm looking to run separate x screens on two monitors.  I have kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy ...ati x800 with the envy driver used the auto install using the envy app.
[01:41] <epimeth> brandon_: look into xephyr
[01:41] <brandon_> Ok will do.
[01:41] <brandon_> thanks
[01:41] <epimeth> anybody good with sound problems?
[01:41] <epimeth> brandon_: nw
[01:41] <tekteen> !sound|epimeth
[01:41] <ubot3> epimeth: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:42] <osiris> what would be the command to restart the sound server
[01:43] <osiris> kde's sound server that is
[01:47] <Pici> Pretty.
[01:47] <LjL> quite
[01:50] <genii> heh
[01:50] <genii> persistent
[01:53] <epimeth> tekteen: cheers
[01:53] <epimeth> got it working
[01:53] <tekteen> cool
[01:53] <tekteen> how?
[01:53] <epimeth> geez... didn't even think to try alsamixer
[01:53] <tekteen> lol
[01:54] <epimeth> or KMix for that matter
[01:54] <epimeth> Master volume was set to highest
[01:54] <epimeth> but PCM was muted
[01:54] <epimeth> I'm such an idiot sometimes
[01:54] <tekteen> that is good to know (the PCM part)
[01:55] <tekteen> I will pass that on to the next people with sound issues
[01:55] <epimeth> I got some newfangled HD sound card from Lenovo's brand new laptop working, but my old POS laptop which works with the default driver set I almost give up on...
[01:55] <epimeth> heh
[01:56] <epimeth> what drove me nuts is that the sound was working, then suddenly the other day it just stopped
[01:56] <tekteen> lol
[01:56] <yao_ziyuan> i wonder if there is any secure measures in apt
[01:56] <yao_ziyuan> my country is china
[01:56] <tekteen> yao_ziyuan: yes
[01:57] <tekteen> each package is signed
[01:57] <yao_ziyuan> if my government/isp fake some virus/trojan packages in the middle
[01:57] <tekteen> nope
[01:57] <yao_ziyuan> ok
[01:57] <tekteen> can't happen
[01:57] <tekteen> you will get a warning
[01:57] <epimeth> well it can... but they can't fake the md5
[01:57] <tekteen> that it "can not be verified"
[01:58] <zPliskiN> hey, i seriously need help here, i can't figure a way to make my wireless working with kubuntu 7.10
[01:58] <zPliskiN> everything else works flawless. but the damn wireless.
[01:58] <tekteen> !wireless
[01:58] <ubot3> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:58] <tekteen> that is a good place to start
[01:59] <tekteen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[02:06] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: a good place to start would be telling us what card you have
[02:06] <zPliskiN> it says : "b43-fwcutter" dependency problem
[02:06] <zPliskiN> BCM4306
[02:06] <coreymon77> a 43xx card eh?
[02:06] <zPliskiN> i did the sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter, didnt get anything
[02:06] <zPliskiN> yeah
[02:07] <zPliskiN> got the file from http://packages.debian.org/lenny/b43-fwcutter
[02:07] <zPliskiN> with wget
[02:07] <zPliskiN> and then sudo dpkg -i blablabla.deb
[02:07] <zPliskiN> and it says that the libc6 is 2.7 and ubuntu is 2.6
[02:09] <anon32> ugh, KPDF needs a collapseable sidebar...
[02:09] <anon32> that thing is annoying
[02:09] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: i believe the file is bcm43xx-fwcutter
[02:09] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: and that does exist on apt
[02:11] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: get that package
[02:11] <zPliskiN> ok i think i got it
[02:11] <zPliskiN> i did apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[02:11] <zPliskiN> and it says its at his latest version
[02:11] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: now do this
[02:12] <coreymon> sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[02:13] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: run that script and download your driver
[02:13] <zPliskiN> command not found ?
[02:13] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: or, if you prefer, take the .sys file directly from your wifi cards windows install cd
[02:14] <zPliskiN> i think i have it. 1 second
[02:15] <zPliskiN> ok got it
[02:15] <zPliskiN> took it with a wget through a link
[02:15] <coreymon77> do you have it
[02:15] <zPliskiN> yeah its saved
[02:16] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: okay then, run this command, replace the <> with your info
[02:16] <coreymon> sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/`uname -r` <downloaded file>
[02:17] <zPliskiN> ok
[02:17] <zPliskiN> extracting plenty of files...
[02:17] <zPliskiN> some *.fw stuff
[02:18] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: did it work?
[02:18] <zPliskiN> now its rmmod right
[02:18] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: as long as there are no errors, we are good
[02:18] <zPliskiN> and modeprobe bcm43xx
[02:18] <zPliskiN> right ?
[02:19] <coreymon> sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[02:19] <zPliskiN> yeah
[02:19] <coreymon77> run that
[02:19] <zPliskiN> done
[02:20] <coreymon77> now type iwconfig, tell me if it returns eth1 or eth2
[02:20] <yuri_> hello ppl
[02:20] <zPliskiN> lo = no wireless extensions, eht0 = no wireless extensions
[02:20] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: that it?
[02:20] <zPliskiN> eth1 = IEEE 802.11b/g
[02:21] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: yay!
[02:21] <zPliskiN> frequency 2.437 ghz
[02:21] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: thats enough
[02:21] <zPliskiN> aight. so its detected
[02:21] <coreymon77> yes
[02:21] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: now, do you know your wireless info?
[02:21] <zPliskiN> like gateway and mask ? yes
[02:22] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: no, like essid and encryption key
[02:22] <zPliskiN> oh yeah
[02:22] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: do you use wep or wpa?
[02:22] <zPliskiN> wep
[02:22] <coreymon77> good
[02:22] <zPliskiN> i go in the Knetworkmanager right ?
[02:22] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: no
[02:22] <zPliskiN> alright
[02:22] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: we are doing this command line, knetworkmanager is buggy
[02:23] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: type this, replacing the <> with your info
[02:23] <zPliskiN> sorry its WPA. not WEP
[02:23] <coreymon77> oy
[02:23] <coreymon77> okay
[02:23] <zPliskiN> can i just disable it ?
[02:24] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: no, it will just take a little more work
[02:24] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: but you can disable if you wish
[02:24] <zPliskiN> yeah i'll do that. i'll re-enable it when everything works
[02:25] <yurimxpxman> how can I make konqueror show FLAC in audiocd:/ ?
[02:25] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: there will be an extra few steps for when you re-enable
[02:25] <zPliskiN> yeah its fine. i think i know how to do so, did it for xubuntu on my ps3
[02:25] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: okay then
[02:25] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: so, disable away
[02:26] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: tell me when
[02:26] <zPliskiN> done.
[02:26] <coreymon77> okay
[02:26] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: so, do this
[02:26] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <youressid>
[02:27] <Regital> say, how do i make terminal so that i can start it with just pressing f12 or something?
[02:27] <zPliskiN> my essid is like :"off/any"
[02:27] <Jucato> Regital: install yakuake
[02:27] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: did you run that command?
[02:27] <Regital> ah thanks Jucato
[02:28] <zPliskiN> not yet, what do i put for my essid ?
[02:28] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: whats your network name
[02:28] <zPliskiN> when i did iwconfig previously, it sayd "off/any"
[02:28] <zPliskiN> its called "house"
[02:28] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: so your essid is house
[02:28] <zPliskiN> ah ok
[02:28] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid house
[02:29] <zPliskiN> done
[02:29] <coreymon77> okay, it should work
[02:29] <zPliskiN> what do i use to manage it ? instead of Knetworkmanager ?
[02:29] <zPliskiN> (can i uninstall it ?)
[02:29] <yuri_> guys i need a little help can some one help me out? =P
[02:30] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: you could edit your /etc/network/interfaces
[02:30] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: and you can use knetworkmanager if you want
[02:30] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: i just personally find it a little buggy
[02:30] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: but, go ahead, give it a shot
[02:31] <Jucato> !someone | yuri_
[02:31] <ubot3> yuri_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:31] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: first, is your wifi working right now?
[02:31] <yuri_> lol k
[02:31] <zPliskiN> nope
[02:31] <Regital> i heard that it is possible to install gnome as alternative or w/e os with kde
[02:31] <Regital> if you guys know what i mean
[02:32] <yuri_> im looking for a program like the Hlsw for game servers, but i need a linux one =P
[02:32] <Jucato> Regital: sure. install the "ubuntu-desktop" package
[02:32] <coreymon77> Regital: gnome is just a desktop environment
[02:32] <coreymon77> Regital: not a seperate os
[02:32] <Regital> coreymon77, i know, i was just fixing it but i got my answer =p
[02:33] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: do this, go into system prefs, then to network settings
[02:33] <zPliskiN> i am there
[02:34] <coreymon77> click on the administrator mode button at the bottom
[02:34] <zPliskiN> yeah i am logged
[02:34] <zPliskiN> eth1 has a random wrong IP without a gateway in the routes tab
[02:34] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: fix that
[02:35] <Jucato> yuri_: hlsw seems to have a forum. try asking there
[02:35] <yuri_> i know but hlsw dont exist for linux
[02:35] <yuri_> but it seems its out another program like it, but i dunno name
[02:36] <zPliskiN> yuri_ i think there is german tool made on linux, similar to HLSW, but cant remember the name
[02:36] <yuri_> ty
[02:36] <yuri_> but....
[02:36] <zPliskiN> i updated the gateway
[02:36] <yuri_> what happen if i install hlsw with wine?
[02:36] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: okay, is everything else correct?
[02:36] <zPliskiN> prolly gonna owrk ?
[02:37] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: is all the other info correct
[02:38] <zPliskiN> reloading
[02:39] <yuri_> in windows to close a program was ctr+alt+supr
[02:39] <yuri_> howi can do the same in linux?
[02:39] <coreymon77> yuri_: you mean delete? ;)
[02:39] <zPliskiN> everything seems to be correct, but still doresnt work
[02:39] <yuri_> ya
[02:39] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: did you check in eth1s configure window in the interfaces tab?
[02:40] <zPliskiN> yeah
[02:40] <zPliskiN> checked alls ettings
[02:40] <zPliskiN> broadcast = <IP_ADDRESS> right ?
[02:41] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: erm, i dont know, whatever yours is
[02:41] <zPliskiN> do i have to do something in domaine name system ?
[02:42] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: re-enable wpa and set up wpa_supplicant
[02:42] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: probably
[02:42] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: enter in your primary dns
[02:42] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: your router should tell you what that is
[02:43] <zPliskiN> like <IP_ADDRESS> ? or the IP of the PC ?
[02:43] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: no, the dns
[02:43] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: check in your router settings, usually under the status or summary tabs, it should say primary dns or dns 1
[02:43] <zPliskiN> yeah my bad, 1 sec
[02:44] <zPliskiN> yeah they are fine already
[02:44] <coreymon77> as i said before
[02:44] <coreymon77> re-enable your wpa and set up wpa_supplicant
[02:45] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: i have heard of people having issues connecting to an unencrypted network
[02:45] <zPliskiN> ok
[02:46] <zPliskiN> i'll put a wep one
[02:47] <zPliskiN> i can put any of the 4 keys right
[02:47] <coreymon77> zPliskiN: ya sure
[02:47] <coreymon77> use wep
[02:47] <coreymon77> use your first though
[02:48] <coreymon77> use key number 1 first
[02:48] <zPliskiN> i cant type in the damn thingy on the kmonitor
[02:49] <coreymon77> umm, copy and paste the key?
[02:49] <zPliskiN> done reloading.
[02:49] <coreymon77> and?
[02:50] <zPliskiN> nothing
[02:50] <coreymon77> gah
[02:50] <coreymon77> im sorry
[02:50] <coreymon77> i have to go
[02:50] <zPliskiN> its cool. thanks anyways -__
[02:57] <Kr|ptiX> im new to kubunto an im tryn to get xchat to work can i get some help
[02:57] <Kr|ptiX> kubuntu*
[02:57] <Erickj92> has anyone seen jessie around tonight?
[02:59] <epimeth> anybody know a good gui frontend for mysql that supports ssh?  navicat sucks....
[03:00] <epimeth> Kr|ptiX: ummm.... why do you need XChat?
[03:00] <munk_> HELP! what is a good calculator app?
[03:00] <epimeth> munk_: speedcrunch is installed by default
[03:00] <epimeth> Erickj92: nope, sorry....
[03:01] <Erickj92> ok, thanks
[03:01] <Kr|ptiX> i like xchat
[03:01] <munk_> epimeth, thanks man
[03:01] <epimeth> munk_: nw
[03:02] <epimeth> Kr|ptiX: but whats wrong with Konversation?
[03:02] <Kr|ptiX> i dont like it
[03:02] <epimeth> Kr|ptiX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[03:04] <Kr|ptiX> bash: xchat: command not found
[03:05] <Kr|ptiX> nvm i got it
[03:06] <epimeth> anybody know a good gui frontend for mysql that supports ssh?  navicat sucks....
[03:10] <awag> anyone here using kde 4.1?
[03:10] <epimeth> awag: erm... its not out yet....
[03:11] <awag> it's not?
[03:11] <epimeth> nop
[03:11] <epimeth> e
[03:11] <awag> oh..
[03:11] <awag> well i feel stupid
[03:11] <epimeth> lol
[03:11] <awag> an article i read for some reason gave me the sense that it was out already
[03:12] <epimeth> latest version is 4.0.2
[03:12] <epimeth> http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php
[03:12]  * epimeth eats atomicpotato
[03:12] <atomicpotato> urgh...
[03:13]  * atomicpotato gives epimeth gas
[03:13]  * epimeth burps
[03:13] <epimeth> ahhhh
[03:13] <epimeth> much better
[03:13] <epimeth> !offtop
[03:13] <ubot3> Factoid offtop not found
[03:13] <epimeth> !offtopic
[03:13] <ubot3> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:13] <epimeth> who said that?!?
[03:13] <awag> i'm still using kde 3.5.8
[03:13] <awag> i tried 4.0 for a few days
[03:13] <epimeth> heh... I actually tried tab-completing ubotu....
[03:14] <awag> but some things didn't seem to work right
[03:14] <epimeth> 'some' ? 'seem' ?
[03:15] <epimeth> I think you meant to say "but things didn't work right" but your Politically Correct filter added a few words
[03:15] <epimeth> I think a lot of us are just gonna wait til 4.1 comes out
[03:15] <awag> haha
[03:15] <epimeth> I installed 4.0.1 and stopped using it 5 minutes later
[03:15] <oren> how do i get my back button to work?
[03:15] <awag>  well, i couldn't get some plasmoids to work right, and the kicker seemed weird, and unconfiguarable
[03:15] <oren> i just intalled kubuntu
[03:16] <epimeth> unless you are a developer or are eager to send bug reports, don't use it
[03:16] <epimeth> oren: what back button?
[03:16] <oren> on my mouse
[03:16] <oren> its a logitech
[03:17] <epimeth> oren: ooohhh.... which one?
[03:17] <oren> 510mx
[03:17] <oren> mx510
[03:18] <epimeth> oren: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX510Mouse?highlight=%28510%29%7C%28mx%29
[03:18] <epimeth> awag: yea, it's still under pretty heavy development.  It's not called "alpha" for no reason, you know :-)
[03:19] <epimeth> awag: but if you want to check out kde4 in a much more usable environment, try sabayon
[03:19] <epimeth> It installs by default with pretty much everything you need to actually use it as a desktop, although it is still pretty buggy
[03:20] <epimeth> you can also try the daily build and make sure to install / load your apps by hand. (eg: knetworkmanager)
[03:21] <epimeth> anybody know a good gui frontend for mysql that supports ssh?  navicat sucks....
[03:23] <awag> epimeth: ok thanks i'll check that out
[03:24] <oren> epimeth: im such a n00b i cant follow it
[03:24] <oren> i miss windows :(
[03:24]  * epimeth washes oren's mouth out with soap
[03:25] <epimeth> oren: what, exactly, don't you follow?
[03:25] <oren> didnt work when i entered gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:25] <oren> says failed to open device
[03:25] <kriptix> !bcm43xx
[03:25] <ubot3> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[03:25] <Jsn> Hey.  is there a "device manager" type app for kubuntu?  I'm trying to find some information out about my hardware
[03:25] <epimeth> right... did you install ubuntu or kubuntu?
[03:26] <oren> kubuntu
[03:26] <epimeth> jsn: lspci is about all I can give you... I pretty much draw the line there for my hardware knowhow
[03:27] <epimeth> oren: you have to understand that most of the help files (specifically in help.ubuntu.com) are geared towards ubuntu users, not kubuntu users.  whenever you see "gksudo" you type "kdesu"  when you see "gedit" you type "kate"
[03:28] <epimeth> so lets start over, I'll walk you through it
[03:28] <epimeth> but you have to keep up cuz I'll need to go soon
[03:28] <epimeth> so stay with me, okay?
[03:28] <Jsn> is lspci included in the kbuntu install, or do i need to download it?
[03:29] <Kr|ptiX> epimeth can u help with bcm43xx
[03:29] <oren> so kedesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:29] <epimeth> Kr|ptiX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?highlight=%28bcm43x%29
[03:30] <epimeth> Kr|ptiX: bottom line, tho: install bcm43xx-fwcutter *through the command line only*
[03:30] <epimeth> Kr|ptiX: if that doesn't work, THEN read through the help file I just sent you
[03:30] <epimeth> oren: did you back up xorg.conf ?
[03:30] <Kr|ptiX> help file?
[03:30] <epimeth> Kr|ptiX: the link... whatever :-p
[03:31] <epimeth> oren: so? did you back up the file?
[03:31] <epimeth> Jsn: its a cli tool installed by default
[03:31] <epimeth> Jsn: go to terminal and type lspci... you will get a list of all of your hardware
[03:32] <Jsn> thanks
[03:33] <oren> i dunno :(
[03:33] <epimeth> Jsn: also (and I found this just now... honestly, you should have been able to find this yourself): Kmenu -> System -> KInfoCenter
[03:33] <epimeth> oren: all right... we'll take it slow
[03:33] <epimeth> oren: open a terminal window
[03:33] <oren> konsole?
[03:33] <epimeth> oren: yes
[03:33] <oren> ok
[03:33] <oren> open
[03:34] <epimeth> oren: my favorite way to do this is by pressing alt+space then 'kon' then enter
[03:34] <epimeth> oh
[03:34] <epimeth> all right
[03:34] <oren> yeah someone taught me that today, awsome feature
[03:34] <epimeth> now you type in $sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf~backup
[03:34] <epimeth> without the dollar sign
[03:35] <epimeth> (I put it there to make sure people realise that it is in the cli)
[03:35] <oren> cannot create regular file `/etc/X11/xorg.conf~backup': Permission denied
[03:35] <epimeth> did you remember the sudo?
[03:36] <oren> ok asked for password i entered it
[03:36] <epimeth> what does this command do?
[03:36] <epimeth> lets break it up into parts:
[03:36] <epimeth> sudo = "run as root"
[03:36] <epimeth> what are we running?  cp
[03:36] <epimeth> cp = "copy"
[03:36] <epimeth> cp takes two arguments: source and destination
[03:37] <epimeth> source is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:37] <epimeth> this is the configuration file for the xorg server
[03:37] <oren> ok
[03:37] <epimeth> the xorg server is the GUI
[03:38] <Kr|ptiX> epimeth does it work with wep keys
[03:38] <epimeth> so the configuration of mouse stuff resides there
[03:38] <oren> should i still have konsole open?
[03:38] <epimeth> yes
[03:38] <epimeth> now we are going to check that you did, indeed, create the backup
[03:38] <epimeth> $cd /etc/X11
[03:38] <Kr|ptiX> epimeth does it work with wep keys
[03:39] <epimeth> Kr|ptiX: yes, and WPA2 as well
[03:39] <oren> so enter"cd /etc/X11"
[03:39] <epimeth> Kr|ptiX: mine does, anyway
[03:39] <epimeth> oren: yes
[03:39] <iateshaggy> ne1 got a sec 2 help w/ an install?
[03:39] <epimeth> oren: this means "go to the /etc/X11 directory"
[03:39] <oren> yeah "oren@oren-desktop:/etc/X11$"
[03:39] <epimeth> oren: good
[03:39] <epimeth> oren: now:
[03:40] <epimeth> oren: $ls -la
[03:40] <Kr|ptiX> well went entering my wep key it  get stucks then ask for a key again
[03:40] <epimeth> oren: ls = list directory contents
[03:40] <oren> ok
[03:40] <oren> done
[03:40] <oren> now i have a list
[03:40] <epimeth> Kr|ptiX: did you make sure it's in ASCII / Hex / whatever it should be mode?
[03:41] <oren> i have xorg.config and xorg.config-backup
[03:41] <epimeth> oren: ls -la = list directory contents, including hidden files (files starting with '.'), and put them in a list including their permissions, owner, group, size, and modified date
[03:42] <epimeth> oren: good.  so you created the backup
[03:42] <oren> cool
[03:42] <epimeth> oren: now you will execute a command that will open up a program in the GUI
[03:43] <oren> ok
[03:43] <epimeth> oren: actually, I'm getting ahead of myself
[03:43] <epimeth> oren: first we do:
[03:43] <epimeth> oren: $cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[03:43] <oren> ok
[03:43] <epimeth> oren: cat = concatenate files and print to STDOUT
[03:44] <epimeth> oren: cat reads the files that are used as its arguments and spits them back out at you
[03:44] <oren> cool
[03:44] <epimeth> oren: now lets get a bit fancier
[03:44] <epimeth> oren: $cat /proc/bus/input/devices | grep 'Logitech'
[03:44] <Jsn> hey what is a .bz2 file?
[03:45] <kgoetz> Jsn: a compressed file
[03:45] <oren> ok it spit back "N: Name="Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse"
[03:45] <epimeth> Jsn: its a type of compressed file, similar to the .zip files you find in windows, or .gz files you might already be familiar with
[03:46] <Jsn> does kbuntu come with an app to decompress this type of file?
[03:46] <epimeth> oren: this time, we redirected the output of cat from STDOUT to the STDIN of a program called 'grep'
[03:46] <oren> ok
[03:47] <epimeth> oren: grep takes as an argument a regular expression to search for and spits out the lines of the file that it finds
[03:47] <oren> k
[03:47] <kgoetz> Jsn: yes, several i expect
[03:47] <epimeth> oren: regular expressions are beyond the scope of this lesson, but suffice it to say that if you type in alphanumeric characters it will find them
[03:47] <oren> ah i see
[03:48] <epimeth> oren:good, so it found the mouse
[03:49] <epimeth> oren: now again:
[03:49] <epimeth> oren: $cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[03:49] <epimeth> this time you have to find the line yourself
[03:49] <epimeth> oren: because we need to see what it's handlers are
[03:49] <oren> H: Handlers=mouse1 ts1 event2
[03:50] <oren> that line?
[03:50] <epimeth> oren: let me know when you find it
[03:50] <epimeth> oren: excellent
[03:51] <epimeth> oren: $kdesu kate xorg.conf
[03:51] <oren> ok asked for my password
[03:51] <epimeth> oren: kdesu = "kde su" = "run as administrator in the GUI"
[03:52] <epimeth> oren: kate = "K Advanced Text Editor" = notepad, if you will... only much much better for many reasons, including syntax highlighting
[03:52] <oren> then konsolel said failed to open device but then the xorg.conf kate wndow opened
[03:53] <epimeth> oren: since xorg.conf is owned by root and not editable by regular users, you had to run Kate in root mode.
[03:53] <epimeth> oren: yes.  xorg tries opening the WACOM tablet devices by default... you can comment them out if you want but it really isn't necessary
[03:54] <oren> ok cool
[03:54] <oren> so now do i edit in kate?
[03:54] <epimeth> oren: say hello to xorg.conf  feel free to look around and see if anything makes sense
[03:54] <epimeth> oren: don't worry if nothing does... it *really* isn't important for you to know it all
[03:55] <epimeth> oren: yup
[03:55] <epimeth> oren: but instead of changing the lines, you should comment them out
[03:55] <oren> so change driver to "evdev"
[03:55] <epimeth> oren: you comment a line by putting a has mark in front
[03:56] <oren> ok how do i do that?
[03:56] <basti_> hi, i would like to ask if there is a kubuntu repo. server inside china? im sitting in shanghai and my dl is really really slow
[03:57] <lanoxx__> im waiting for firefox to install since about 1 hour now, so far i have got 5mb
[03:57] <lanoxx__> :(
[03:58] <epimeth> oren: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59330/
[03:59] <oren> epimeth: ok i cut the old one and pasted that in its place
[04:00] <oren> do i need the # in there too cuz when i pasted it it didnt show?
[04:00] <epimeth> lanoxx__: http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/
[04:01] <epimeth> oren: nooooo... don't paste
[04:01] <epimeth> oren: sorry
[04:01] <epimeth> oren: undo all of your changes
[04:02] <epimeth> oren: the hash mark tells xorg "ignore this line"
[04:02] <Regital> how do i kill a program on the application panel?
[04:02] <oren> ok i repasted it and now it has the #
[04:02] <Regital> i tried ctrl+esc but it doesnt work
[04:02] <epimeth> oren: again... don't copy paste...
[04:02] <epimeth> oren: do it manually
[04:03] <epimeth> oren: the paste has spaces, the file itself uses tabs
[04:03] <oren> oh ok
[04:03] <epimeth> Regital: it doesn't show the program in the list?
[04:03] <Regital> it does, it just wont close the program
[04:03] <epimeth> oren: you can, however, copy paste the one line from within kate and then change the text
[04:04] <munk_> HELP! is there any antiporn good app for linux?
[04:04] <Regital> my firefox froze and i need to close it
[04:04] <epimeth> Regital: try hovering over the icon... it could just be that Panel doesn't realize it is closed
[04:04] <epimeth> munk_: ???
[04:05] <schemacs> privoxy
[04:05] <schemacs> edubuntu
[04:05] <munk_> epimeth, yes do you know any?
[04:05] <Regital> no i used xkill
[04:05] <Regital> thanks anyway
[04:05] <schemacs> googles firewall. j/k
[04:05] <schemacs> munk: privoxy, edubuntu.
[04:06] <epimeth> munk_: I really don't understand... what is an antiporn app?
[04:07] <munk_> epimeth, im not sure either but something that blocks sites or just checks for keywords and stops the process or anythign that helps preventing someone go on porn sites on the computer..
[04:07] <epimeth> oren: you still with me?
[04:07] <epimeth> munk_: I dunno... I guess you should try edubuntu since that is geared towards kids and probably has a porn filter
[04:08] <epimeth> munk_: but schemacs seems to know more about it then I do
[04:08] <oren> epimeth:  you want me to change to      Option          "Protocol"      "ImPS/2" too?
[04:08] <epimeth> oren: that should be there already
[04:08] <oren> this is there Option		"Protocol"	"ExplorerPS/2"
[04:08] <munk_> schemacs, do you know any apps? that filters that?
[04:09] <schemacs> munk: do u know what privoxy is?
[04:09] <epimeth> oren: you installed with an ms explorer mouse?
[04:09] <munk_> schemacs, no not really..
[04:10] <epimeth> oren: anyhoo, yes... but put a hash mark in front instead of erasing the line
[04:10] <oren> ok alsmot done
[04:10] <schemacs> munk: http://www.macos.utah.edu/documentation/servers/privoxy.html
[04:11] <epimeth> oren: it is always best to keep the old settings in the file itself instead of relying on backups.  that way you can revert only certain things if you want to
[04:11] <schemacs> munk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privoxy
[04:11] <oren> ok cool
[04:11] <oren> i changed it all
[04:11] <oren> hit save?
[04:11] <epimeth> oren: yup :-)
[04:11] <oren> ok saved
[04:11] <epimeth> now.  I want you to write the following does on a piece of paper:
[04:12] <schemacs> munk: ubuntuforums.org/
[04:12] <epimeth> oren: that last statement was meant for you
[04:12] <oren> can i write it in note pad?
[04:12] <schemacs> munk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=306347
[04:12] <schemacs> ok i'm done with that stuff.
[04:12] <epimeth> oren: you have another computer open?
[04:12] <munk_> schemacs,  thanks
[04:12] <oren> nope
[04:12] <oren> i just dont have paper and pen
[04:13] <oren> paperless bedroom :)
[04:13] <epimeth> oren: so where did this note pad business come from?  you mean kate, yes?
[04:13] <oren> oh yeah
[04:13] <schemacs> np
[04:13] <oren> ok kate is open
[04:13] <epimeth> oren: it won't help you if you can't get back into xorg, now will it? :-)
[04:14] <oren> used the alt space feature :)
[04:14] <xo> sdf
[04:14] <oren> ok hold on ill find a paper and pen
[04:15] <oren> ok shoot
[04:15] <schemacs> ed is the best though.
[04:15] <simula> i want to learn what each linux directory is for and what the benefits of arranging data in that way... is there a good reference/tutorial out there?
[04:16] <epimeth> oren: alt+ctrl+f<1-6> will open up a terminal interface, labeled tty1 through tty6 respectively
[04:17] <oren> ok
[04:17] <simula> sorry guys... i think i found a good link: http://slashmedia.wordpress.com/2007/12/23/linux-directory-structure/
[04:17] <epimeth> oren: ctrl+alt+f7 brings you back to X
[04:17] <epimeth> oren: if anything goes wrong you do the following:
[04:17] <oren> x is sorg.config?
[04:17] <epimeth> oren: ctrl+alt+f1
[04:17] <epimeth> oren: log in
[04:18] <epimeth> oren: $su cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:18] <epimeth> oren: xorg... sue me!
[04:19] <oren> ok sorry
[04:19] <epimeth> oren: oh... lol... I thought I made a typo... *you* made the typo :-)
[04:19] <epimeth> oren: yea, xorg is X
[04:19] <oren> ok cool
[04:19] <epimeth> oren: after the file is reverted to the original xorg you:
[04:20] <epimeth> oren: $sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:20] <oren> ok so now that i saed the updated Xorg.conf
[04:20] <oren> saved
[04:20] <Jsn> hey is there any way to have kubuntu turn your laptop monitor off when you choose to go into stand by, instead of it just turning black?
[04:20] <oren> what should i do now?
[04:22] <epimeth> oren: ctrl+alt+backspace and pray.  if I'm not here, ask someone to help you.  tell them that you are having problems understanding https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX510Mouse?highlight=%28510%29%7C%28mx%29
[04:22] <oren> okhold on let me try it
[04:23] <Kr|ptiX> how do i install deKorator 1.1
[04:31] <epimeth> simula: cheers mate... nice little rundown
[04:31] <Jsn> has anyone used MoBlock P2P Blocking application for linux yet?
[04:33] <Kr|ptiX> ey epimeth can u help me install a theme
[04:33] <epimeth> Jsn: never heard of it
[04:34] <epimeth> Kr|ptiX: never done it, sorry... although kde-look.org has great howtos afaik
[04:34] <Jsn> it is recgommended on the peerguardian website
[04:35] <oren> epimeth: you there?
[04:37] <zPliskiN> for some reasons now my pc is extremely slow. is there a way to see what is slowing the pc down ?
[04:37] <zPliskiN> like it takes 30 mins to log on
[04:38] <zPliskiN> and the HDD makes a constant scratching noise.
[04:38] <epimeth> oren: good, you are back :-)
[04:39] <epimeth> zPliskiN: hang out here for a while, someone will be able to help you
[04:39] <oren> epimeth: well atfirst screen when nuts and died
[04:39] <oren> restarted a few times and it hung up
[04:40] <oren> then i tired recovery mod then restarted back to normal i dont know what i did to fix it but im back and the back button works, thank you!
[04:40] <epimeth> oren: so did you revert to the old file?
[04:40] <oren> i dunno?
[04:41] <oren> but my screen resolution was changed to orginal
[04:41] <epimeth> glad to be of service :-)
[04:41] <Kr|ptiX> how do i fix configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. error
[04:42] <oren> epimeth:  do you know how to get SPDIF output to work?
[04:42] <oren> thats my only grip as of now cant use my reciver :(
[04:47] <zPliskiN> i have that xorg processe that takes 300 000 of vmsize, what is it ?
[04:49] <oren> can someone help me?
[04:49] <oren> im a total n00b
[04:49] <oren> im a total n00b
[04:50] <fignew> yes
[04:50] <oren> how do i do this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187920
[04:50] <oren> post # 5 is all i need i think
[04:50] <oren> as all i use is spifd
[04:51] <fignew> paste that into /etc/asound.conf
[04:51] <oren> how do i open  /etc/asound.conf
[04:51] <oren> sorry im terrible
[04:52] <fignew> in the shell
[04:52] <oren> use konsole?
[04:52] <fignew> sudo nano /etc/asound.conf
[04:52] <fignew> yes, konsole
[04:52] <zPliskiN> whats the command to see what starts @ startup
[04:53] <fignew> oren: ctrl x to quit
[04:54] <oren>  ok the old script is there from the top of that post but it didnt work for me
[04:54] <oren> should i delete that old stuff?
[04:54] <fignew> yes
[04:54] <fignew> actually
[04:55] <fignew> it would be better to move it out of the way
[04:55] <fignew> mv /etc/asound.conf /etc/asound.conf.old
[04:55] <oren> so re open konsole and type that line in?
[04:55] <fignew> you can exit nano by pressing ctrl x
[04:56] <fignew> and get back to the command prompt
[04:56] <fignew> or you can open another konsole :P
[04:56] <oren> mv: cannot move `/etc/asound.conf' to `/etc/asound.conf.old': Permission denied
[04:56] <oren> so just delete the old one?
[04:56] <fignew> put sudo in front
[04:57] <oren> oren@oren-desktop:~$ sudo mv /etc/asound.conf /etc/asound.conf.old
[04:57] <oren> mv: cannot stat `/etc/asound.conf': No such file or directory
[04:58] <fignew> ok
[04:58] <fignew> then it's been moved :)
[04:58] <fignew> so sudo nano /etc/asound.conf
[04:58] <fignew> and put that stuff in
[04:58] <fignew> and then reboot
[05:00] <oren> ok i hit ctrl x then y
[05:00] <oren> now it asks File Name to Write: /etc/asound.conf
[05:01] <fignew> enter
[05:01] <oren> ok
[05:01] <oren> now reboot?
[05:01] <fignew> yes
[05:01] <oren> ok brb
[05:07] <oren> ok i restarted
[05:08] <oren> playback is only thru the speakers but it sounds like alvin and the chipmunks now
[05:09] <fignew> wurd
[05:09] <fignew> right click on the speaker in the bottom right of the panel
[05:10] <fignew> select show mixer window
[05:10] <fignew> oren: ^^^
[05:11] <oren> ok
[05:11] <schemacs> Okay after update sound buttons don't work.
[05:11] <oren> i do have the optical connection showing a light
[05:11] <schemacs> Any ideas?
[05:11] <fignew> oren: is there a switches tab
[05:11] <schemacs> kubuntu
[05:12] <oren> yes
[05:12] <fignew> schemacs: what chu mean?
[05:12] <fignew> oren: what does that tab have in it?
[05:12] <oren> 3d control -switch
[05:12] <oren> mic boost
[05:13] <oren> iec958 output
[05:13] <oren> mix
[05:13] <oren> mono mix
[05:13] <fignew> comma seperate :)
[05:14] <oren> aternate level to suround, downmix lfc, down mix suround to front, external amplifier, multi track rate locking, multi track rate reset
[05:14] <oren> with lights on top of each one
[05:15] <oren> on the right i have a bunch of drop down boxes
[05:15] <fignew> do you have a multi track internal clock option?
[05:16] <oren> such as mic select and iec858
[05:16] <oren> yes i do
[05:16] <fignew> what's it set at?
[05:16] <oren> 22050
[05:16] <fignew> set it to 48000
[05:16] <oren> ok
[05:17] <fignew> try playing sound again
[05:17] <schemacs> fignew: there are buttons on a computer for sound. They no longer control the sound.
[05:17] <oren> before it was only palying thru the green jack speakers not my optical/reciver though
[05:18] <fignew> oren: when it sounded like chipmunks?
[05:18] <oren> yes
[05:18] <fignew> doh!
[05:18] <fignew> no idea then :/
[05:18] <fignew> I'd ask in #alsa
[05:18] <fignew> they know what they're talking about ;)
[05:19] <fignew> you might have to wait a while for someone to respond though :/
[05:19] <oren> hrm ok well thanks for the help
[05:27] <Kr|ptiX> hey
[05:36] <intercek> canales en español
[05:39] <Jucato> !es | intercek
[05:39] <ubot3> intercek: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:47] <randompie> !hi | randompie
[05:52] <Tuxwulf> Guys, I messed up my PC, it boots no further than "Configuring networking interfaces" after editing /etc/network/interfaces. What to do?
[05:53] <fignew> Tuxwulf: is it still sitting there?
[05:53] <Tuxwulf> Well.. yes, I guess, my monitor went in the power save. But resetting it will get it there again.
[05:53] <fignew> you can press ctrl+c to continue
[06:02] <Tuxwulf> ... does not seem to work ... Well.. live CD to the rescue.. or my zippie...
[06:04] <ForgeAus> um if I edit the settings for file associations -> text to embedded does that put kate embedded in my browser instead of as an external app?
[06:08] <maduser> konquer has a viewer built in
[06:09] <lanoxxth> where can i get help to install the nvidia driver? Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:16] <Tuxwulf> Yay, got it starting again
[06:17] <apparle> ati!
[06:17] <apparle> !ati
[06:17] <ubot3> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:17] <apparle> !ati | lanoxxth
[06:17] <ubot3> lanoxxth: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:21] <lanoxxth> thx
[06:21] <reldruh> hi all. I was wondering if anybody knew a recommended way to share certain files between different user accounts. Basically, I have two users, each for a different purpose and I want to listen to the same music on both, but Amarok has a problem putting them in a collection when they're owned by one user. Is there a certain folder I can put them in to make them accessible to everybody?
[06:23] <apparle> reldruh: I am a newbee so I am not sure. Rightclick on the folder with you music files and set permission to all the users. Maybe this will do it. I don't know
[06:23] <lanoxxth> the following site: http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/musicvideophotos/C/codecs.html ;;;; told me to install libxine-extracodecs but it seems not to be available in the reps, instead i found libxine1-plugins which seesm to have mp3 included, is this a mistake in the page?
[06:24] <Jucato> lanoxxth: no. the instructions are a bit old. libxine1-ffmpeg is the one you should be looking for now
[06:24] <apparle> lanoxxth: : In the package manager, you must enable other repositories
[06:25] <Jucato> not necessarily. libxine1-ffmpeg is in main...
[06:26] <apparle> apparle: I was not sure :)
[06:27] <Jucato> talking to ourselves now, 'ey? :)
[06:27] <apparle> by mistake  :D
[06:27] <Jucato> Jucato: suuuure.. :)
[06:27] <Jucato> ^^^ by intention
[06:28] <reldruh> apparle: thanks, I'm going to login to my other account and try it now
[06:32] <apparle> bye
[06:37] <yao_ziyuan> that Polyester Orange Color Scheme is pretty good, uh?
[06:37] <yao_ziyuan> plus the Tend To Zero Hot wallpaper
[06:42] <sidd> hey all
[06:48] <sidd> where to find via drivers for sata pata and video
[06:48] <sidd> drivers of via hardware for kubuntu unix
[06:56] <yao_ziyuan> look at my screenshot:
[06:56] <yao_ziyuan> http://infowire.googlegroups.com/web/snapshot5.png?gda=36_NoD4AAAC0sEMjRrph6--_rNfJV4RUuAXNGjabAQQx-9GFy9LLLmG1qiJ7UbTIup-M2XPURDSsIN5tWI5KNi__zdWJsrgz
[06:56] <noaXess> !ubuntu
[06:56] <ubot3> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[06:56] <noaXess> !gnome
[06:56] <ubot3> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[06:57] <noaXess> ok.. hi all
[06:57] <noaXess> what package to install, if i want run gnome and kde?
[06:57] <Jucato> noaXess: just install ubuntu-desktop if you're on Kubuntu
[06:57] <Jucato> (or kubuntu-desktop if you're on Ubuntu)
[06:57] <noaXess> Jucato: okaay. thanks.. that's what i want to know :)
[06:58] <noaXess> i just want see, how is compiz with gnome..
[06:58] <noaXess> under kde, there are some restrictions..
[06:58] <Jucato> compiz is, I'd hate to say this, perfect with gnome :)
[07:00] <sidd> i cant move mouse freely when a process is running or playing a movie
[07:02] <sidd> ubot i think i need drivers for viia for chipset, controllers
[07:05] <simula> this is pretty silly, but i put my mouse in the system tray, scrolled the mouse and it went through all the apps and jumped to desktop 2... but now when i flip back to desktop 1 all my apps are missing :/
[07:06] <simula> i'm running compiz as well if that might be responsible
[07:09] <waner> alquien me puede ayudar
[07:10] <waner> alquien en español
[07:10] <simula> no habla espanol
[07:10] <waner> estoy formatiando mi pc y quiero ponerle ubuntu y kubuntu pero tengo problemas
[07:11] <Jucato> !es | waner
[07:11] <ubot3> waner: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[07:14] <MDCore> hey all. Amarok won't see my ipod. I followed the instructions given when clicking "autodetect devices" and it mentions ipod. What now?
[07:18] <MDCore> Ah.. managed to add it manually. I initially slashencoded the path from /media (it's got spaces) but it turns out I shouldn't
[07:19] <mjponce> simula, quien ? who ?
[07:19] <simula> what mjponce?
[07:19] <mjponce> who don't speak spanish ?
[07:20] <simula> i don't really speak spanish :)
[07:20] <mjponce> ah!  you mean : yo no hablO español., sorry
[07:20] <simula> si
[07:20] <mjponce> thanks!
[07:21] <simula> does anyone know how to get back lost virtual desktops when using compiz?
[07:22] <Jucato> simula: #compiz-fusion users might now
[07:22] <simula> oh, thanks jucato!
[07:37] <mjponce> good night to all.
[07:39] <sidd> i have a driver on the destop new folder how to install it?
[07:39] <sidd> its via raid driver vt 8257
[07:39] <sidd> please help
[07:40] <sidd> ubot
[07:40] <sidd> any one here?
[07:41] <emilsedgh> !patience | sidd
[07:41] <ubot3> sidd: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:42] <sidd> hey emil
[07:42] <emilsedgh> sidd: give people some time, if they know, they will answer you
[07:42] <sidd> ok
[07:42] <sidd> actually no one has answered
[07:54] <macdunbar> hi room
[07:56] <macdunbar> i need some help with my keyboard
[08:01] <Kano> Riddell: kde4 misses knetattach
[08:02] <mika__> hi
[08:02] <mika__> I'm on kubuntu gutsy ... and cant get sound to work
[08:02] <Kano> Riddell: also usefull would be: bash-completion package (as this is now seperated from bash)
[08:03] <Kano> Riddell: kio-apt would be nice too
[08:04] <mika__> anyone knows weither there is some issues with 64bit version card is SigmaTel STAC9271D
[08:06] <yuri_> Hi ppl
[08:09] <yuri_> Hey guys its hard to do Compiz fusion?
[08:10] <mmmiiikkkeee> yuri_: what do you mean by hard?
[08:10] <yuri_> ok im newbie i go 2 days in linux Kubuntu
[08:11] <yuri_> for a person like me that its hard?
[08:12] <mmmiiikkkeee> yuri_: I am pretty new; I did nto think it was hard to install.  but with kde I coudl not get the 'pager' program to work with it
[08:13] <yuri_> then you mean you still havent do it work?
[08:14] <mmmiiikkkeee> yuri_: from what I read there is a problem withthe program "kicker/pager" or soem thing... it shows your veritual desktops all wrong
[08:14] <sebastian^> morning folks
[08:15] <yuri_> oh i see
[08:15] <yuri_> hi sebas!
[08:15] <mmmiiikkkeee> yuri_: but all the compiz stuf worked fine for me
[08:16] <yuri_> oh
[08:16] <yuri_> i need to gt more on this OS its good, but my sad thing its im a freaky player in maplestory and i think i cant play on here
[08:18] <yuri_> =P
[08:19] <yuri_> hey how i can make work on mi web browser konqueror youtube?
[08:21] <mmmiiikkkeee> yuri_: i think you just install flash... install the package: "flashplugin-nonfree"
[08:23] <yuri_> k
[08:24] <mmmiiikkkeee> yuri_: fisrt you need to enable 'non-free' software though... open the program "adept manager" then from the file menue go to "manage repotories"
[08:25] <mmmiiikkkeee> yuri_: and select the "restricted" and the "multiverse" sources
[08:31] <mmmiiikkkeee> in "Konversation" how do you get it to automatically login with my user name? and why do i have to type "/msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>" to log in; I don't like that my password is typed visivally on my screen; am i doing some thing wrong?
[08:35] <xt828> mmmiiikkkeee: you can put that line, the /msg nickserv blah, into the onjoin commands box - go into file; server list; click on the kubuntu server; and hit edit and it's the third box down
[08:37] <mmmiiikkkeee> xt828: thank you; i will try that.
[08:38] <xt828> mmmiiikkkeee: sorted?
[08:39] <mika__> hi ... any ideas how would I get sound to work
[08:39] <mmmiiikkkeee> xt828: yes!!! it worked; thank you so much
[08:40] <mika__> kubuntu gutsy 64 bit version ; card is SigmaTel STAC9271D
[08:46] <mmmiiikkkeee> mika__: have you read this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-584178.html
[08:47] <mmmiiikkkeee> mika__: I am sure you ahve searched google already... but that page had a guy with a similar card so I thought it might be relivent
[08:51] <Maulwurf> just a question: does anyone know a good site to learn programming a gui with c++ in qt ?
[08:53] <eatThisAndDie> guys, anyone here with kde4?
[08:53] <mmmiiikkkeee> Maulwurf: No I don't; but I have been looking at the sites listed here: http://www.kde.org/getinvolved/development/
[08:54] <eatThisAndDie> well... i would like reviews from those who have it.
[08:54] <mmmiiikkkeee> Maulwurf: Let me know if you find any thing better; I am also intersted in learning about that
[08:55] <Maulwurf> whow, i didn't think about just looking at the kde's site.... there are some really usefull hints.... thanks
[08:56] <Ukonpoika> eatThisAndDie: try #kubuntu-kde4 or perhaps #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:56] <eatThisAndDie> ok. thx
[08:59] <mmmiiikkkeee> Maulwurf: the guide on useing kdevelop is a bit confusing with ubuntu;  there are a bunch of dependencies that need installed in ubuntu to have kdevelop 'fully' work. tha was very frusterating for me
[08:59] <Maulwurf> hmm... well i have time until the mid of april to get it started :)
[09:02] <mmmiiikkkeee> Maulwurf: i think this was the problem(i think there was several acatually) I was having: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31479
[09:03] <Maulwurf> thanks.... now checking if libtool is installed :)
[09:04] <mmmiiikkkeee> Maulwurf: trolltech's web page is supose to have a good tutorial and good examples too; I wish I had time like you do; damn school...
[09:05] <Maulwurf> yea - university is really cool
[09:08] <Maulwurf> thanks very much - i'll go then and test my skills on some of the tutorials
[09:22] <yuri_> hi guys i got a quenstion... how do i can make KGet start a download when other finished?
[09:30] <retarded> is degrading a crime or unacceptable by society? is it smart or stupid to degrade as a money wise person in mind?
[09:34] <SlimeyPete> !ops
[09:34] <ubot3> Help!  I can use the internet ok, but pinging localhost fails. i am unable to connect to the internet unless i have renamed /etc/network/interfaces to something else (which i am doing now)
[10:47] <mmmiiikkkeee> tysine: can you put /etc/network/interfaces on pastbin so i can see it?
[10:48] <tysine> sure
[10:50] <tysine> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59356/
[10:50] <mmmiiikkkeee> if you rename /etc/network/interfaces then i think that local host will not longer be defined.. so that woudl make pinging fail?
[10:50] <tysine> probably. but unless i do that (rename interfaces) i cant connect to the internet
[10:51] <tysine> woops
[10:51] <mmmiiikkkeee> is eth1 a wifi interface?
[10:52] <carsten> jo dude
[10:52] <tysine> yes
[10:53] <mmmiiikkkeee> tysine: and your connecting with wifi not ethernet cable?
[10:53] <tysine> yes
[10:54] <mmmiiikkkeee> i think i have a similar problem...
[10:54] <mmmiiikkkeee> after you rename the file you can connect with knetworkmanager?
[10:54] <tysine> yes
[10:55] <mmmiiikkkeee> i put:
[10:55] <mmmiiikkkeee> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[10:55] <mmmiiikkkeee> wireless-essid love
[10:55] <mmmiiikkkeee> auto eth1
[10:56] <mmmiiikkkeee> in my /etc/network/interfaces file.  where love is the name of my router essid
[10:56] <mmmiiikkkeee> and that mostly works for me
[10:56] <tekteen> mmmiiikkkeee: I just woke up. I think I can help. Can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[10:56] <tysine> mostly? :)
[10:56] <tekteen> are you having trouble getting knetworkmanager to work?
[10:57] <mmmiiikkkeee> i think me and tysine have the same problem
[10:57] <mmmiiikkkeee> yes
[10:57] <tekteen> ok
[10:57] <tysine> knetworkmanager only works if i rename interfaces to something else
[10:57] <tekteen> can you both pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[10:58] <mmmiiikkkeee> i worked around it with what i put above, and not useing knetworkmanager
[10:58] <tysine> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59356/
[10:58] <tekteen> tysine: also pastebin the output of iwconfig
[10:58] <mmmiiikkkeee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59357/
[10:59] <tekteen> mmmiiikkkeee: same as tysine
[10:59] <mmmiiikkkeee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59358/
[10:59] <tysine> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59359/
[11:01] <tekteen> mmmiiikkkeee: this is what it should look like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59361/
[11:02] <tekteen> tysine: I edited it here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59363/
[11:02] <tekteen> make that your /etc/network/interfaces
[11:02] <mmmiiikkkeee> tekteen: yea i changed it to not have to use knetworkmanager.  my essid is hidden and knetworkmanager does not connect to it automatically
[11:03] <tekteen> mmmiiikkkeee: what do you mean it is hidden?
[11:03] <mmmiiikkkeee> not brodcasted
[11:03] <tekteen> ok
[11:03] <tekteen> "connect to other wireless network" is an option
[11:04] <mmmiiikkkeee> i know its not really 'hidden' people can see it if i connect to it
[11:04] <tekteen> not only if you connect
[11:04] <mmmiiikkkeee> yes, but that will not remember after i restart/suspend my computer
[11:04] <tekteen> I can see it because it only hides some of its broadcasts. I can still find it
[11:05] <tekteen> mmmiiikkkeee: try to restart your computer
[11:05] <tekteen> tysine: you still here?
[11:05] <tysine> yep
[11:05] <tekteen> restart as well
[11:05] <tysine> ok mate
[11:07] <mmmiiikkkeee> with the interfaces you send me or my old one?
[11:07] <tekteen> ?
[11:08] <tekteen> what do you mean?
[11:08] <mmmiiikkkeee> you want me to change the interfaces file then restart?
[11:08] <tekteen> yes
[11:09] <mmmiiikkkeee> ok
[11:09] <tekteen> it works?
[11:10] <mmmiiikkkeee> hold on
[11:12] <cpk1> mmmiiikkkeee: which interface is your wireless card?
[11:13] <tekteen> cpk1: it is eth2
[11:13] <tekteen> cpk1: I had him pastebin iwconfig
[11:15] <mmmiiikkkeee> knetworkmanager works, but i have to select connect to other network inorder to connect
[11:15] <mmmiiikkkeee> eth2
[11:15] <ScorpKing> !hardware > me
[11:15] <mmmiiikkkeee> with my old interfaces file it connect automatically
[11:16] <mmmiiikkkeee> with out knetwork manager
[11:16] <tekteen> mmmiiikkkeee: I thought that is what you wanted?
[11:16] <tekteen> like tysin
[11:17] <tekteen> mmmiiikkkeee: you can always set it back to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59357/
[11:19]  * tekteen has to go to school :-(
[11:20] <cpk1> mmmiiikkkeee: mike this might work for /etc/network/interfaces http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59364/
[11:21] <sidd_> where to find dislplay drivers
[11:21] <cpk1> err http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59365/ with the wired nics commented out if you dont want them
[11:21] <SlimeyPete> sidd_: for what card?
[11:21] <sidd_> display drivers for via
[11:22] <sidd_> via
[11:22] <SlimeyPete> !via
[11:22] <ubot3> Factoid via not found
[11:22] <SlimeyPete> hrm
[11:22] <SlimeyPete> I think via drivers are built-in.
[11:22] <ere4si> via is not well supported unfortunately
[11:22] <sidd_> yaa but they don't work good
[11:22] <sidd_> its not running as windows !
[11:23] <ere4si> 2d only I believe
[11:23] <sidd_> here too microsoft rocks!!
[11:23] <mmmiiikkkeee> cpk1: i think thats basicaly the simular to what i had originally..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59357/
[11:23] <mmmiiikkkeee> it's just that i can't have knetworkmanager with that way set up
[11:23] <sidd_> in mandriva or open suse will they work better//??
[11:24] <SlimeyPete> sidd_: unlikely.
[11:24] <ere4si> couldn't say
[11:24] <mmmiiikkkeee> and it the network goes down then i have to run  "sudo dhclient"  manually
[11:24] <SlimeyPete> sidd_: best to send VIA an email and ask them to provide better Linux support
[11:24] <sidd_> or finally in kiwi or mint
[11:24] <SlimeyPete> if enough people email them then perhaps they'll listen
[11:24] <sidd_> yeah silmey
[11:26] <sidd_> if proper drivers not available ,, no good games and must such draw backs then why one should step into linux?
[11:26] <cpk1> mmmiiikkkeee: does /etc/network/interfaces take wireless-essid as an option? i did not know that, and why cant you have that in there and knetwork manager?
[11:27] <sidd_> if proper drivers not available ,, no good games and many such draw backs then why one should step into linux? and try it? in windows i was used to find and install drivers easily and everywhere
[11:28] <storbeck> sidd_, If you don't like linux, don't use it.
[11:29] <sidd_> still i like linux for security safe and speed and thats why i am here
[11:30] <sidd_> is'nt it annoying searching for drivers for two days and finding nothing?
[11:30] <storbeck> It doesn't take me 2 days to find a driver.
[11:31] <sidd_> ''wanted drivers for display and sound ''via''
[11:31] <sidd_> if proper drivers not available ,, no good games and many such draw backs then why one should step into linux? and try it? in windows i was used to find and install drivers easily and everywhere
[11:31] <storbeck> sidd, What kind of video card do you have?
[11:31] <sidd_> via
[11:32] <sidd_> hypernion<storbeck
[11:33] <sidd_> well whats to do now? i have found a driver for unix and have downloaded it to desktop , please tell me how to install it now?
[11:34] <cpk1> sidd_: is it a tar.gz?
[11:34] <sidd_> zip
[11:35] <storbeck> You don't need drivers for the Via chipset.
[11:35] <storbeck> They're already built in.
[11:35] <cpk1> so unzip it with unzip into a directory and see what the readme says
[11:35] <sidd_> but i face problems in display while playing movies
[11:36] <sidd_> readme is stuffing the head withs bangs!:-)
[11:36] <storbeck> Probably because a Via is worth a Hershey chocolate bar.
[11:36] <sidd_> may be
[11:36] <sidd_> :-(
[11:37] <sidd_> what should i  do now then?? storbeck ? upgrade to nvidia?
[11:37] <storbeck> Sure.
[11:38] <sidd_> and probaly its drivers wud be available
[11:38] <sidd_> but what to do about the driver i have downloaded?
[11:38] <sidd_> how to install it?
[11:39] <sidd_> via_ubuntu7.10(x86&x86_64)_v-raid_v3.10_driver_appnote_ver0.8
[11:39] <storbeck> Uncompress it, make, sudo make install
[11:39] <sidd_> and the location is /home/user/desktop
[11:41] <sidd_> any one can remote desktop and help me?
[11:41] <cpk1> might need to ./configure before make
[11:42] <sidd_> how to configurE?
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> ./configure
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> is normally the command that configures source, befor you  compile it.
[11:48] <zorglu_> q. what is the name of the wiki used by wikipedia ? i remember there is package for it but dont remember the name. anybody got an idea ?
[11:49] <Jucato> MediaWiki afaik
[11:49] <Pici> That sounds right to me too
[11:49] <zorglu_> Jucato: ah yep. thanks
[11:49] <Jucato> zorglu_: see the bottom of the wikipedia homepage :)
[11:49] <zorglu_> Jucato: i was googling for wikimedia. not that far :)
[11:50] <ForgeAus> wow konqueror's coming along nicely its a nice alternative to firefox now :)
[11:51] <cpk1> is there any kind of minimalist server install? ie I just want the bare minimum
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> There is a server install cd.
[11:51] <llutz> cpk1: debian-netinstall ;)
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> or the JEOS ubuntu variant.
[11:52] <Jucato> cpk1: get the alternate install CD, then install a command line system. no X
[11:52] <ForgeAus> isn't there an ubuntu-server package?
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> I think ya have to watch out on the server install cd, its default kernel - dosent like all machines.
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> !info ubuntu-server
[11:52] <ubot3> Package ubuntu-server does not exist in gutsy
[11:52] <ForgeAus> erm metapackage I mean
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> Guess not. :)
[11:52] <ForgeAus> hmm someone should contrib one
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> i cant imagine what it would install
[11:52] <ForgeAus> (either that or canonical should make one
[11:53] <ForgeAus> DrWillis LAMP ?
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> if someone  is making a server.. they should know  what they want to do.
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> !lamp
[11:53] <ubot3> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:53] <ForgeAus> yeah that
[11:53] <Stilo> is it possible to emulate windows xp?
[11:53] <ForgeAus> Stilo yes wine does
[11:53] <ForgeAus> and vmware can
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> Stilo,  VMWARE and virtualbox can run windows xp.
[11:53] <ForgeAus> well virtualize rather than emulate
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> thats not emulating the os. :)  like ForgeAus  said.
[11:53] <llutz> Dr_Willis: it should "de-install"  loads of soft :)
[11:54] <ForgeAus> bochs would be the closest to emulation
[11:54]  * Jucato notes that Wine Is Not an Emulator :)
[11:54] <ForgeAus> does bochs do pentium class processors? i586/i686? if so you could probably XPize it
[11:54] <Stilo> i want to run a windows programm.. when i do that, i get the error message that i need internet explorer
[11:55] <ForgeAus> Stilo ies4linux
[11:55] <ForgeAus> thats wine
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> wine had some addon tools/plugin/things irecall that let it use netscape instead of ie.
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> but it depends on the  program you are running.
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> Some  depend on IE parts. sadly
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> !appdb
[11:55] <ubot3> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[11:55] <ForgeAus> (or again you could virtualize it in vmware/virtualbox/qemu/etc) or you could check out bochs
[11:56] <ForgeAus> I know bochs should at least do Win98.. at least for Macintosh (Wintel??? or some mac emulator used it)
[11:56] <Stilo> hm..too much information ^^
[11:56] <ForgeAus> Stilo ok ies4linux = a specialized wine built from a script that installs internet explorer
[11:57] <ForgeAus> you do of course need wine to begin with
[11:57] <ForgeAus> I'd recommend ie6 its probably the most compatible
[11:57] <JuJuBee> Is there a way to use du to show the size of the subdirs of /var ?
[11:57] <JuJuBee> I'm trying to create a include-files-from file for rsync to backup my computer.  I realize I do not need /proc and some other stuff.  Trying to decide what I "need" and what I can simply reinstall.
[11:57] <ForgeAus> (especially since ie7 doesn't work.. yet, although there is some progress there)
[11:58] <Stilo> @ForgeAus: ok thats nice.. i will try that..but now its lunch time...will be back soon
[11:58] <ScorpKing> JuJuBee: du -h /var
[11:58] <JuJuBee> ScorpKing : thanks, but I am looking for a summary of each sub dir.
[11:59] <JuJuBee> not all files recursively
[11:59] <ScorpKing> JuJuBee: did you even look at the output? ;)
[12:00] <JuJuBee> Yes, I know it eventually shows the size of the folder, but I am trying to figure out the options so it *only* shows the size of each folder inside /var
[12:00] <JuJuBee> /var is just an example.
[12:00] <ScorpKing> JuJuBee: ah ok. man du maybe?
[12:00] <JuJuBee> Don' want to sift through the output.
[12:01] <dthacker> Hi!  what is the irc channel to discuss ubuntu bots such as ubotu?
[12:02] <dthacker> JuJuBee: look at maxdepth option
[12:02] <ForgeAus> #eggdrop ?
[12:02] <JuJuBee> du -sh /var/*
[12:02] <JuJuBee> Nice...
[12:02] <ScorpKing> :)
[12:02] <ForgeAus> is ubotu an eggdrop type bot?
[12:03] <dthacker> ForgeAus: yeah....but this channel is just for ubuntu bots
[12:03] <ForgeAus> dthaker I don't understand what your trying to say
[12:05] <dthacker> ForgeAus: It's an ubuntu sponsored channel, such as ubuntu-meeting, ubuntu-classroom, etc
[12:06] <JuJuBee> Another question... I have an external HD that is formatted FAT32 ( I thought I would use it between windows and linux , but turned out not to be the case)  I wish to convert it to ext3, are there any utils that will convert without destroying data?
[12:06] <JuJuBee> I hate the file size restrictions...
[12:06] <dthacker> JuJuBee: I think you are going to have to backup, reformat, and rewrite.
[12:07] <JuJuBee> Crap, I don't have enough space anywhere to backup my external (400GB)...
[12:07] <dthacker> JuJuBee: But I would google a bit first.
[12:07] <dthacker> JuJuBee: Welcome to my world.....
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> JuJuBee,  huh? why cant you use it between linux and windows?
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> just due to the filesize issue?
[12:09] <JuJuBee> Not my problem, I dont use it anymore and wish to convert to ext3 so I don't have the file size restrictions of fat32
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> move some data over, use gparted to make a little ext3. move more data over to the ext3.. repeat.. :)
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> ICKY eh.. :P
[12:11] <JuJuBee> I was thinking of that, but that could take some time... Was wondering if faster solution.  I will google
[12:13] <jussi01> !nickspam > Lior_gumstix
[12:13] <Vira_Lata> agora sim
[12:14] <Vira_Lata> adivinha
[12:14] <jussi01> !br | Vira_Lata
[12:14] <ubot3> Vira_Lata: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[12:14] <filipe_> ahhh
[12:15] <Vira_Lata> depois
[12:28] <JuJuBee> other than /etc /home /var/lib/mysql, what are other dirs i *should* backup so if I have to reinstall, I have most of what I need?
[12:29] <rudd-o> everything if possible
[12:29] <rudd-o> so you don't ahve to reinstall
[12:29] <rudd-o> but if you care only about your data, backup /var /etc /home generally
[12:29] <Stilo> ForgeAus: I installed ies4linux... and it works fine. But when i start the other program, it still tells me that i need i-explorer version 4 or higher..
[12:30] <Stilo> how can i tell the programm that it is there.. is it a problem of wine?
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> Stilo,  what is this other program?
[12:31] <Stilo> ^^ its a little training program for shooters: http://www.scatt.com/support.htm
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> Stilo,  it may be best to just install  a copy of windows95 or xp in a vmware/virtualbox session for that program.  since its from a small company it may do some 'odd' things.
[12:33] <Jucato> Stilo: basically the problem is that ies4linux installs in its own directory and wine doesn't know that it exists (as far as wine is concerned, it isn't installed)
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> since its not a 3d game. It should work find in  vmware/virtualbox session of windows.
[12:34] <Jucato> oh if it requires 3D acceleration, it wouldn't work in vmware or virtualbox
[12:34] <Jucato> (unless vmware has created new technology)
[12:34] <Stilo> it doesnt require 3d acceleration..
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> Its just a 'data plotting' program for  scope adjustment it seems. :)
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> looks like somnthing my friends at work would use. :)
[12:35] <ForgeAus> Stilo you probably installed the other program in a different wine "honeypot"
[12:35] <ForgeAus> but its probably easier if you virtualize
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> are you going to be doing actual data-recording with this program?
[12:35] <Jucato> he probably installed the program the default way (it installs in ~/.wine). but ies4linux doesn't install there
[12:35] <ForgeAus> (ie it matters more if your C: is under .wine or .ies4linux
[12:36] <Stilo> is vmware free.. where do i get these programs
[12:36] <Stilo> ?
[12:36] <ForgeAus> yeah Jucato thats what I meant
[12:36] <ForgeAus> vmware is, the player and server at least
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> virtualbox is free.. and vmware has a free version you can get.
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> I use the vmware server free version all the time. used to be you had to go to the vmware website and request a free serial #.
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> virtual box has a free version, and comercial version.
[12:37] <Stilo> Dr_Willis: i also need usb support, for the infrarot sensor. is that working in such a emulation?
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> Stilo,  Im not sure the free virtualbox can handle that. You may want to try out the free vmware-server then.
[12:38] <Jucato> Virtualbox OSE doesn't have USB support
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Recommended retail price 1050 Eur.
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Whats that in US$ anyway. ;)
[12:39] <Stilo> ForgeAus: what you mean with honeypot of wine?
[12:40] <Stilo> 1Euro = 1,5 Dollars i think
[12:40] <JuJuBee> ForgeAus : I use vmware-server and it works great and it IS free
[12:40] <ForgeAus> me too JuJuBee
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> Stilo,  wine sets up a 'fake' windows drive.  that is basicially the windows C: drive.
[12:41] <ForgeAus> stilo honeypot is more a UML term (user mode linux) but crossover office uses it too ... what happens is
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> Stilo,  you can have different programs installed to different places so they dont conflict.
[12:41] <ForgeAus> what Dr Willis is saying :)
[12:41] <ForgeAus> theres more than one C:/Program Files, My Docs, etc on your computer
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> IE: you can have  a game using wine in .wine_game   and your office windows apps in .wine_office
[12:41] <ForgeAus> ies4linux installed into its own (its in .ies4linux under your users home at least the user that ran the script)
[12:42] <Jucato> [20:31] <Jucato> Stilo: basically the problem is that ies4linux installs in its own directory and wine doesn't know that it exists (as far as wine is concerned, it isn't installed)
[12:42]  * Jucato coughs
[12:42] <Stilo> i dont know where the installation program of ies4linux had put the files.. but i dont think it was something like C:/Programs/ie..
[12:43] <Jucato> most probably it's in ~/.ies4linux
[12:43] <Jucato> been a while  since I installed it so I can't be sure
[12:43] <ForgeAus> yeah Program Files\interenet explorer (but there shoul donly be one or two files there, much of ie is acutally system files
[12:43] <Stilo> yes thats right
[12:43] <ForgeAus> Jucato's right
[12:44] <ForgeAus> the reason ies4linux does that is so you can have ie2, 3, 4, 5, 6 etc running in separate "honeypots"
[12:44] <ForgeAus> so you can choose which one you want
[12:44] <Jucato> technically it's like this. ies4linux sets up its own small "my computer" in the ~/.ies4linux. wine, by default, only knows about programs installed in it's own "my computer", in ~/.wine
[12:45] <ForgeAus> (the purpose was for page developers to get some idea of how windows will show their web-pages)
[12:45] <ForgeAus> but you can use the .ies4linux to install other programs too
[12:45] <Stilo> Jucato: yes i think thats the problem.. the scatt program is in .wine and the ie4linux is in ./ies4linux
[12:46] <ForgeAus> (or with a little tweaking you could either A) install ie6 into the .wine one with the downloads ies4linux got for you manually, or B) copy and configure the ie6 from ies4linux across
[12:46] <Stilo> but i think ies4linux needs also wine.. so there must be a way to tell the scatt program, that iexpolrer is intalled
[12:46] <rudd-o> ok
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> Hmm  ies4linux is using wine. its just instlling to someplace other then the .wine dir.
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> You could copy everything from the .ie4linux dir to the .wine dir - I guess. :) Icky
[12:47] <Stilo> ^^
[12:47] <ForgeAus> stilo don't bother just run ie6 setup executables from in wines Cmd console but note you need to install all the stuff like dcom98 fonts and stuff too
[12:47] <ForgeAus> not just ie6setup
[12:48] <ForgeAus> (this will give you a copy inside .wine instead of .ies4linux, that way you can delete the hwole .ies4linux if you want)
[12:48] <Jucato> there's a hackish/dirty way to make Wine know that ie is installed, but it might overwrite whatever you have in the .wine directory...
[12:48] <Stilo> Jucato: and that is?
[12:48] <Jucato> (so you'll have to reinstall/setup again whatever you have done before)
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> im still not sure that wine will work with a usb data recording device.
[12:49] <ForgeAus> or you can run the cmd.exe from ies4linux and install your program from there
[12:49] <Stilo> Dr_Willis: ok.. than it would be useless
[12:49] <Jucato> copy the contents of ~/.ies4linux/ie6/ to ~/.wine/
[12:49] <ForgeAus> (either way should recognise ie
[12:49] <Stilo> e
[12:49] <ForgeAus> Jucato that won't work alone
[12:49] <ForgeAus> you need lots of registry settings and system files
[12:49] <ForgeAus> I don't recommend doing just that...
[12:50] <ForgeAus> I doubt ie6 will even run that way
[12:50] <Fat-head> i am having trouble with compiz fusion now that i have connected my other monitor i run compiz --replace and i get this : http://pastebin.com/d61e4e9d8
[12:50] <Jucato> ForgeAus: er... notice that the files and directories of ~/.ies4linux/ie6/ are the same as ~/.wine/ ?
[12:50] <wesley_> why dont they add a install to usb option in new kubuntu 8.04 ?
[12:50] <Jucato> I've done it before
[12:50] <ForgeAus> Jucato mostly yes
[12:50] <ForgeAus> but not all and .wine doesn't share .ies4linux's registry
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> wesley_,  installing to usb exteral devices can be a real real tricky business.
[12:50] <Jucato> ForgeAus: I did say it will overwrite them
[12:50] <ForgeAus> Jucato for normal programs your right...
[12:50] <Jucato> anyway, these thigns are more fit for #winehq
[12:51] <Stilo> ForgeAus: what is the wine cmd console? and how can i do that
[12:51] <Stilo> ?
[12:51] <Fat-head>  i am having trouble with compiz fusion now that i have connected my other monitor i run compiz --replace and i get this : http://pastebin.com/d61e4e9d8 anyone can help me ?
[12:51] <wesley_> yeah i know but mcnlive based on mandriva or pendrive linux you can install from live cd to usb easly
[12:51] <Jucato> before we get scolded (by me), please take the wine stuff to #winehq :)
[12:51] <ForgeAus> oh... ok well that wont work either, because it requires config for wine to know some stuff about ies4linux where wine uses an external path (ie ~/.ies4linux/c_drive/ ) etc...
[12:51] <Jucato> Fat-head: #compiz-fusion for you :)
[12:51] <Fat-head> thnx
[12:52] <Jucato> ForgeAus: hm??
[12:52] <ForgeAus> most of that is on the linux side tho (like the .desktop file and stuff)
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> it is nifty how wine adds icons to the menus and so forth now a days
[12:53] <ForgeAus> it'd be simpler to run the dcom98.exe installer, copy/install the fonts, then run the ie6 setup that ies4linux copied over
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> and it plays 'bookwork adventure' very well. :)
[12:53] <ForgeAus> yeah DrWillis crossover has been doign that for a while
[12:53] <ForgeAus> hehe bookworm adventures rox :)
[12:53] <wesley_> i like to haver a kubuntu kde4 desktop on usb
[12:53] <ForgeAus> I love that game
[12:53] <Jucato> !pendrive
[12:53] <ubot3> Factoid pendrive not found
[12:53] <Jucato> hm..
[12:53] <ForgeAus> I suck at the arena mode tho (I think that what its called)
[12:54] <Stilo> hm.. i have installed winxp.. but i dont want to use it :(.. is vmware difficult to handle?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> ForgeAus,   playing it at work. and everyone gets behind me shouting out words...
[12:54] <ForgeAus> Stilo not once its set up but you do need to make a vhd and stuff, I recommend you get vmware server (instead of just the player)
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> Stilo,  if you have an old copy of windows95 laying about. You can use it in vmware also.
[12:55] <ForgeAus> also in linux mounting .vhdk's is (or at least has been for me) terrible
[12:55] <ForgeAus> but other than that its good
[12:55] <umaco> salve a tutti
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> You can mount vhdk? Hmm.. never tried that.
[12:55] <ForgeAus> DrWillis I do it in WindowsXP all the time
[12:55] <ForgeAus> (I have a 3rd party gui tool for it hehe)
[12:56] <ForgeAus> unfortunately linux's is done by a perl script that is shocking
[12:56] <ForgeAus> (the windows one is more direct)
[12:56] <ForgeAus> I don't get why it can't just mount as a loopback device instead of requiring /dev/ncbs's (network control blocks?)
[12:56] <wesley_> is it possibil to install kubuntu kde4 8.04 on usb using a 7.10 tut ?
[12:57] <Stilo> okay! I will try vmware tomorrow. For the first time.. thank you very much!!
[12:57] <ForgeAus> wesley for the most part I think so
[12:57] <ForgeAus> I dobut it would be much different
[12:57] <ForgeAus> live USB is fun :)
[12:57] <wesley_> i dont need the fix i think ?
[12:58] <umaco> come si attivano gli effettti graici in Kubuntu?
[12:58] <rudd-o> umaco: install compiz-fusion
[12:59] <wesley_> i hope i am downloading alpha 6 that link is default kde4 ?
[12:59] <umaco> ok, dal gestore pacchetti?
[12:59] <rudd-o> umaco: yes
[12:59] <jussi01> !en | umaco
[12:59] <ubot3> umaco: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:59] <Pici> !it
[12:59] <ubot3> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:59] <umaco> thank yuo
[13:00] <rudd-o> you're welcome
[13:00] <umaco> bye
[13:03] <intercek> servidores en español
[13:04] <Pici> !es | intercek
[13:04] <ubot3> intercek: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[13:07] <ruler> hi 2 all
[13:08] <ruler> does anyone know a good way to automate kubuntu installation on multiple machines?
[13:08] <joseph> ruler: use a livecd
[13:08] <joseph> or use the livecd over the network, if that's possible
[13:10] <ruler> can I create livecd with non-standard packages i. e. nvidia drivers etc?
[13:10] <joseph> yeah, i think so
[13:10] <joseph> custom livecd basically
[13:10] <joseph> !livecd
[13:10] <ubot3> The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.
[13:11] <joseph> !install
[13:11] <ubot3> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[13:11] <joseph> ah
[13:11] <joseph> !automate
[13:11] <ubot3> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[13:11] <joseph> ruler: there ya go
[13:11] <ruler> thx
[13:11] <llutz> ruler: https://launchpad.net/reconstructor
[13:11] <joseph> that bot is extremely useful
[13:12] <joseph> what i want to know is if there is a good, automated "ghost" type application available
[13:12] <llutz> joseph: clonezilla
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> mondo/mindi
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> comnes to mind also.
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> depends on your needs.
[13:14] <joseph> llutz: thanks
[13:31]  * genii puts on another pot of coffee
[13:33] <Jucato> yum
[13:33] <genii> Jucato: Heya
[13:33] <Jucato> hi :)
[13:34] <genii> I'm getting prepared for the mid-morning rush ;)
[13:34]  * Jucato gets his rush from coke nowadays :P
[13:36]  * genii sips coffee and waits for all the question-askers to arrive
[13:36] <genii> Because it's sure quiet right now!
[13:36] <Jucato> you missed all the questions
[13:36] <genii> Darn
[13:37] <genii> Any unresolved interesting ones?
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> I got a Q. but its about gnome.. and i fixed it by switching back to KDE. :)
[13:39] <Jucato> hahaha
[13:49] <dueperdue> somewan now some free software for do a video-tutorial?
[13:49] <dueperdue> in Kubuntu
[13:50] <IppatsuMan> dueperdue: krecordmydesktop
[13:50] <genii> IppatsuMan: Beat me to it :)
[13:50] <IppatsuMan> apt-cache search to the rescue! :)
[13:50] <genii> heh
[13:54] <dueperdue> ok, now i'm tring hemm
[14:02] <ruler> guys, what do you think of remastersys?
[14:05] <Daviey> ruler: it's good
[14:12] <jetsaredim> anyone using hardy having problems with konsole?
[14:29] <dueperdue> but the videos do whit my krecordmydesktop,  can I upload him on youtube?
[14:34] <genii> dueperdue: Not directly. Convert the krecordmydesktop file with the program DeVeDe (you can install it from Adept)
[14:34] <dueperdue> ok, thancks
[14:35] <genii> dueperdue: np
[14:35] <dueperdue> np ?
[14:37] <genii> dueperdue: np= No Problem
[14:37] <dueperdue> ok ^^
[14:38] <genii> dueperdue: When converting with DeVeDe, choose when saving "Only convert film files to compliant MPEG files" then it will make the correct type for YouTube
[14:40] <dueperdue> ok, thancks very much genii,   !
[14:40] <genii> dueperdue: You are welcome
[14:42] <Kr|ptiX> i was wondering if there anywayz to geteverything i need from apt-get  update
[14:42] <Kr|ptiX> !libssl
[14:42] <ubot3> Factoid libssl not found
[14:44] <genii> !info libssl
[14:44] <ubot3> Package libssl does not exist in gutsy
[14:44] <dueperdue> I need a help for the gimp
[14:44] <dueperdue> I want the gimp in ialy linguage
[14:45] <dueperdue> because it is in english...
[14:45] <dueperdue> some help'
[14:45] <dueperdue> ?
[14:46] <LadyNikon> !it
[14:46] <ubot3> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:47] <LadyNikon> dueperdue: sorry what language? ialy?
[14:47] <fox> estañol
[14:47] <LadyNikon> !es
[14:47] <ubot3> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:47] <dueperdue> I want to translate hem in italian linguage
[14:48] <llutz> dueperdue: install language-pack-gnome-it
[14:48] <Kr|ptiX> where can  i get  libssl
[14:49] <llutz> Kr|ptiX: libssl0.9.8 is in main-repo
[14:50] <Kr|ptiX> im a newb an dont kno wat that means
[14:50] <llutz> use adept to install
[14:50] <Kr|ptiX> dont really kno how to use adept to install
[14:51] <fox> hablo español y soy nuevo en el sistema
[14:51] <llutz> Kr|ptiX: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95139
[14:52] <fox> quien me puede ayudar
[14:52] <llutz> Kr|ptiX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/Guide
[14:53] <fox> quien me puede ayudar=?
[14:53] <dueperdue> thancks <lluts>
[14:54] <fox> hello
[14:56] <fox> hello
[14:56] <jetsaredim> is anyone else having issues on hardy?
[14:57] <Kr|ptiX> how do i edit my software sources in text
[14:57] <jetsaredim> any time I try to open a k* program a window pops up but its blank for about a minute
[14:57]  * Kr|ptiX-aWay , : ( pickn up applications ) | : ( Wednesday, March 12, 2008. 03:57:30 ) Xlack v2.1
[14:57] <jetsaredim> or longer
[14:58] <IppatsuMan> fox: join #ubuntu-es or #kubuntu-es
[14:58] <anyone> jetsaredim: no problem on any of mine
[14:58] <fox> hello hablo español alguien q, me ayude
[14:59] <LjL> !es | fox
[14:59] <ubot3> fox: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:59] <jetsaredim> there were a bunch of updates this morning and now any time i open something like konsole it just sits there for a minute or more
[15:00] <jetsaredim> even in kaffeine - I finally got it open - but then to actually open a file - it just sat there trying to open the open file dialog
[15:00] <anyone> hmm, I've installed them, on both running hardy no problems.. sorry - maybe ubuntu+1
[15:01] <jetsaredim> have you rebooted or logout/login?
[15:02] <anyone> yes
[15:02] <jetsaredim> odd
[15:02] <jetsaredim> thing is - that my gtk apps seem find
[15:02] <jetsaredim> gaim, firefox, thunderbird
[15:03] <anyone> did you notice it remove anything?
[15:03] <jetsaredim> oy - i just moved a konsole window and it took 30+ seconds to repaint
[15:04] <jetsaredim> this is annoying as hell - i just installed this system last weekend and got everything working
[15:04] <trappist> jetsaredim: check `top` and see what's eating your resources?
[15:05] <anyone> and join ubuntu+1, might get more help
[15:06] <trappist> oh this is hardy?
[15:06] <jetsaredim> what's weird is that it only seems slow for kde apps
[15:06] <jetsaredim> like i said - my gtk stuff is fine
[15:06] <trappist> I don't think he can hear us
[15:07] <jetsaredim> i thought ubuntu+1 was for ubuntu
[15:07] <jetsaredim> not kubuntu
[15:07] <stdin> it's for both
[15:07] <jetsaredim> ok then
[15:07] <trappist> jetsaredim: it's for hardy.  currently.
[15:09] <AQ_LIVE> Hi can anyone tell me how to updata Kubuntu
[15:09] <jpatrick> !update
[15:09] <ubot3> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[15:09] <jetsaredim> trappist: doesn't seem to be terribly active in there
[15:10] <AQ_LIVE> antoher ting how do I find or install display drivers ?
[15:10] <genii> Hmm. update seems to be a synonym to the bot for upgrade
[15:10] <AQ_LIVE> jubuntu can't find my video card
[15:11] <NickPresta> Is there a reason the latest Amarok update is broken?
[15:12] <AQ_LIVE> i did'n mean how to update the main system I ment how do I get hotfixex and stuff like that
[15:12] <NickPresta> AQ_LIVE, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:13] <NickPresta> AQ_LIVE, or just click on that little update icon in your system tray and it will be taken care of.
[15:13] <SlimeyPete> AQ_LIVE: adept_updater will run automatically every so often and tell you when there are updates available by putting an icon in the system tray. You just click on it and enter your password.
[15:13] <AQ_LIVE> there's no update icon I wish there was
[15:13] <AQ_LIVE> were
[15:13] <SlimeyPete> well if you just installed, there won't be any updates yet
[15:14] <AQ_LIVE> ohh so it will show up eentualy?
[15:14] <SlimeyPete> yeah
[15:14] <AQ_LIVE> ok thanks
[15:14] <AQ_LIVE> do you then know how to get drivers for my video card?
[15:14] <SlimeyPete> AQ_LIVE: re: graphics drivers, what card do you have?
[15:15] <AQ_LIVE> I'm not sure my my computer is a toshiba laptop Satelit pro A100
[15:16] <fox> miren tengo un problema soy nuevo y y no se instalar msn
[15:16] <AQ_LIVE> if that dosen't help I can find out more
[15:16] <SlimeyPete> AQ_LIVE: open a terminal and type "lspci", then look through the list for a VGA controller
[15:16] <macdunbar> can someone help with my keyboard? i have to hold a key down for 3secs for it to register
[15:17] <SlimeyPete> AQ_LIVE: lspci lists all the hardware inside your system
[15:17] <AQ_LIVE> and then what if I find any on the list?
[15:17] <AQ_LIVE> The system coulden't find any
[15:17] <SlimeyPete> ...at all? O.o
[15:18] <SlimeyPete> how weird
[15:18] <AQ_LIVE> well that I do not know it just showed that the video card didn't have the driver installed
[15:18] <SlimeyPete> ok, go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org   and copy-paste the output of lspci there, then hit save and tell me the url :)
[15:20] <fox> hablen en español
[15:20] <SlimeyPete> !spanish
[15:20] <ubot3> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:20] <AQ_LIVE> will do but right now I'm on a PC so can I add you as a frind or something
[15:20] <SlimeyPete> doesn't work that way on IRC I'm afraid
[15:21] <AQ_LIVE> then I'd apriciate it if you would help me
[15:21] <AQ_LIVE> ok hope I'll find you another time then
[15:21] <SlimeyPete> ok. Bear in mind I speak to lots of people on IRC so you may have to remind me what we've talked about :)
[15:22] <AQ_LIVE> ok thank you so much for your help
[15:22] <AQ_LIVE> can you wait? because then I'll you start it up
[15:23] <SlimeyPete> I'm at work at the moment so I'll be keeping an eye on this channel but I may get distracted.
[15:24] <AQ_LIVE> I'll just keep un chatting with you then :D I't almost up
[15:27] <AQ_LIVE> hey slimeypete I wrote you
[15:27] <SlimeyPete> mmm?
[15:27] <SlimeyPete> you can't private-message me unless your nickname is registered.
[15:27] <AQ_LIVE> you can't see it
[15:28] <AQ_LIVE> ok that's why then
[15:28] <AQ_LIVE> damn
[15:28] <AQ_LIVE> well I ready to du what you asked
[15:28] <AQ_LIVE> can you tell me one more time how I got that information
[15:28] <SlimeyPete> lspci
[15:28] <SlimeyPete> type that in a terminal
[15:29] <SlimeyPete> (terminal is in K Menu -> System -> Konsole)
[15:29] <AQ_LIVE> lol
[15:29] <AQ_LIVE> thanks
[15:29] <AQ_LIVE> then what
[15:29] <SlimeyPete> well once you've typed "lspci" you should see a list. Look for "VGA"
[15:30] <AQ_LIVE> Radeon Xpress 200
[15:30] <AQ_LIVE> M
[15:30] <SlimeyPete> aha. Same one as me :)
[15:31] <AQ_LIVE> so you have a driver for it or something
[15:31] <zPliskiN> my kubuntu freezes. is there a way to know what it is ? (i suspect xorg process...)
[15:31] <AQ_LIVE> please please :D
[15:32] <AQ_LIVE> so you don't have a driver for it either?
[15:32] <SlimeyPete> AQ_LIVE: there's one built in, or there's a more advanced (but less reliable) "official" ATI one. Do you want to use 3D graphics?
[15:32] <AQ_LIVE> yes I want the cube
[15:32] <dueperdue> somewane tell me haw can i see from kubuntu my windows files?
[15:33] <SlimeyPete> AQ_LIVE: ah... the cube is tricky with ATI. You have to completely remove some major bits of the system and replace them with others. ATI and Linux do not play well together unfortunately.
[15:33] <SlimeyPete> !compiz
[15:33] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:34] <AQ_LIVE> damn
[15:34] <zPliskiN> !xorg
[15:34] <ubot3> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[15:34] <AQ_LIVE> do you know emesene?
[15:34] <SlimeyPete> AQ_LIVE: there's a howto at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263210
[15:34] <SlimeyPete> doesn't ring a bell.
[15:34] <AQ_LIVE> a MSN client
[15:34] <ahmos> hi, where firefox saves it's history files?
[15:34] <AQ_LIVE> Ican't seem to find that one
[15:34] <SlimeyPete> ahmos: ~/.mozilla   I think
[15:35] <zPliskiN> do i have to keep konqueror if i use firefox ?
[15:35] <ForgeAus> no
[15:35] <ForgeAus> but its best to
[15:35] <ForgeAus> in fact I recommend keeping everything in kubuntu-desktop
[15:35] <zPliskiN> i cant even check my gmail with konqueror
[15:35] <ForgeAus> konqueror isn't a mail program
[15:36] <zPliskiN> gmail = like hotmail ?
[15:36] <ForgeAus> google mail yeah
[15:36] <ForgeAus> oh right webmail sorry
[15:36] <zPliskiN> the damn site doesnt even work with konqueror
[15:36]  * ForgeAus thwaps himself
[15:36] <zPliskiN> and so others like digg.com and whatever
[15:36] <ForgeAus> really? konqi is usually good, I guess it has further than I thought
[15:36] <ForgeAus> lately its been shining here...
[15:36] <ForgeAus> (compared to how I remember it in edgy)
[15:36] <AQ_LIVE> when I try to search for it at the add remove programs ting I can' find it
[15:37] <zPliskiN> i'll try it again at some point. when i manage to freakin fix the random slowdown and freezing
[15:37] <AQ_LIVE> and firefox is grayed out
[15:37] <zPliskiN> AQ, check sources
[15:37] <zPliskiN> enable universe ones
[15:38] <ahmos> ]thank's slimeypete but iy don't contain any history files
[15:39] <llutz> ahmos: ~/.mozilla/firefox/some-stuff.default/history.dat
[15:39] <ForgeAus> does kwin4 require glx?
[15:39] <ForgeAus> erm not the kwin4 package the kwin from kde4
[15:41] <stdin> ForgeAus: it doesn't require it, it needs either AIGLX or XGL for 3D effects though
[15:41] <ForgeAus> what if you don't want to do 3dFX?
[15:41] <ahmos> yes ,thank's
[15:42] <ForgeAus> (xming can handle basic ogl like glgears, but thats about all)
[15:42] <admin__> jetsaredim: #ubuntu+1
[15:42] <ForgeAus> nless you get xming-mesa which is slow apparently
[15:43] <zPliskiN> anyone knows what it means : i load an app like firefox, takes 3 mins to load, and then crashes. no error, nothing. just gone
[15:46] <admin__> dueperdue: mount your windows partition
[15:46] <dueperdue> how?
[15:47] <admin__> zPliskiN: Change the settings to report it as Firefox to Gmail should work
[15:48] <admin__> dueperdue: sudo mount /dev/device /path/to/where/you/want Damn!
[15:48] <genii> DasKreech: Gotta love it when they ask and run
[15:49] <DasKreech> genii: Do I have to?
[15:49] <genii> heh
[15:49] <ScorpKing> where does skype keep its settings? or how can i find it?
[15:49] <DasKreech> dueperdue: sudo mount /dev/device /path/to/where/you/want
[15:50] <llutz> ScorpKing: ~/.Skype/login-name
[15:50] <ScorpKing> thanks llutz :)
[15:52] <ep> I have dapper, 6.06.2 LTS.  What are the options for obtaining newer versions of Firefox/Thunderbird?  The need features not found in the older packaged versions.
 thancks for help me, but i've done :)
[15:53] <dueperdue> thancks very much for spent your time white me ;)
[15:55] <DasKreech> dueperdue: Great :) you may want to mount with -o umask=0022
[15:55] <stdin> ep: without upgrading to a newer release, you could go to http://getfirefox.com and install manually
[15:58] <ep> Seems like I did that some years back, and then a latter 'aptget upgrade'  "upgraded" it back to an older version even though I uninstalled it.
[16:01] <DasKreech> ep: Depends on how you ahve it setup
[16:04] <Kr|ptiX> how do i edit my software sources in pico
[16:04] <stdin> Kr|ptiX: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:04] <stdin> nano == pico
[16:07] <Kr|ptiX> there wasnt anything listed when i did that command
[16:07] <stdin> nothing listed? you mean your sources.list is empty?
[16:07] <Kr|ptiX> im assuming
[16:08] <Kr|ptiX> let me try it again
[16:08] <stdin> Kr|ptiX: use tab-completion to make sure you get the right file
[16:09] <galle> hi
[16:16] <ubuntufreak> I have installed KDevelop in Ubuntu 7.10 and in the Kdevelop-multilanguage the konsole is not there, how to get it
[16:18] <dori> hi, is there any known kubuntu issue with automount in gutsy? it was working fine on same hardware with feisty
[16:25] <o3yx> test
[16:25] <DasKreech> what happens if I set chmod o+s on a directory?
[16:26] <atomicpotato> DasKreech, then anything in there gets run as root by everyone
[16:26] <atomicpotato> (iirc)
[16:27] <dueperdue> hi, somewan tell me how can I install tor on firefox and kubuntu?
[16:27] <atomicpotato> dueperdue, install tor on firefox? what?
[16:27] <Orochimaru-sama> I have two HD's, one of then are SATA and have windows intaled, the other are IDE and have Kubuntu instaled...
[16:27] <dueperdue> i want to install tor on my
[16:27] <dueperdue> kubuntu
[16:27] <stdin> !tor
[16:27] <atomicpotato> dueperdue, https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en
[16:27] <ubot3> TOR is a project aiming to provide anonymous connections via specialized !proxies - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR for information and help - Note that TOR is blocked on most Ubuntu IRC channels, please see !hostmask and !tor-gpg
[16:27] <atomicpotato> don't use Ubuntu tor, it's always old
[16:27] <Orochimaru-sama> ... and I wanna boot the windows of grub
[16:28] <Orochimaru-sama> What I have to do?
[16:28] <Orochimaru-sama> o O
[16:29] <Orochimaru-sama> someone?
[16:29] <ubuntufreak> I have installed KDevelop in Ubuntu 7.10 and in the Kdevelop-multilanguage the konsole is not there, how to get it
[16:30] <dueperdue> ok thancks
[16:30] <Orochimaru-sama> '¬¬
[16:30] <Nutzebahn> Does anyone know of any firewall programs for Linux that will enable me to control which applications have internet access, sort of like ZoneAlarm?
[16:31] <Nutzebahn> hi
[16:31] <SlimeyPete> !firewall
[16:31] <ubot3> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[16:31] <SlimeyPete> Guarddog and Firestart are your best bets ^^
[16:34] <stdin> Orochimaru-sama: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[16:35] <Orochimaru-sama> Well, I have instaled Windows first...
[16:36] <stdin> Orochimaru-sama: it tells you what the stanza for windows should look like and how to boot it
[16:37] <ubuntufreak> any help regarding the kdevelop konsole in ubuntu 7.10
[16:37] <china> hello
[16:38] <china> looking for help for ssh login
[16:38] <china> looking for help for ssh login
[16:39] <china> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[16:39] <Pici> !ask
[16:39] <china> can anybody help?
[16:39] <ubot3> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:39] <mihai_> I'm new to Kubuntu can someone help me with the adept manager?
[16:40] <china> sorry, mihai i am new too.
[16:40] <china> but what do u need?
[16:40] <Jucato> mihai_: what's the problem?
[16:41] <china> i got the error: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host; during i tried to log on my new v-server. can anybody help?
[16:41] <Pici> china: is ssh installed?
[16:42] <china> Pici, i guess so, how to double check that?
[16:45] <china> just installed ssh, but still same error ....ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[16:46] <Nutzebahn> Hi.
[16:46] <Nutzebahn> um
[16:46] <china> hi
[16:46] <Nutzebahn> I am in the KDevelop interface designer and I don't know how to bring up the code window for the button I added to the form, how do I?
[16:47] <DasKreech> !aptfix
[16:47] <ubot3> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:47] <ChaosR> hi, I downloaded the most recent firefox, but when I try to start it, it gives this error:
[16:47] <ChaosR> (crashreporter:10127): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_sensitive: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[16:47] <ChaosR> and then gives me the option to just quit or restart firefox
[16:48] <ChaosR> firefox 3.0 beta 4
[16:48] <ChaosR> the most recent beta*
[16:48] <dueperdue> haw can I install privoxy'
[16:48] <dueperdue> ?
[16:49] <china> what do i need to start to use ssh??
[16:49] <stdin> china: install the "ssh" package on the system you want to login to
[16:49] <china> this i did @ stdin
[16:50] <Daisuke-Ido> i usually install the openssh-server package...
[16:50] <china> i getting following error msg.... ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[16:50] <Daisuke-Ido> china: make sure port 22 is open on the remote machine (probably forwarding in the router
[16:50] <stdin> china: you may want to limit it to ipv4, edit the /etc/ssh/sshd_config to have "ListenAddress <IP_ADDRESS>"
[16:50] <china> this is open @ Daisuke-Ido
[16:51] <ChaosR> does anybody know what causes my problem?
[16:53] <stdin> ubot3: tell china about pastebin
[16:54] <Ksersose> Hello all
[16:54] <dueperdue> somewane help me?
[16:56] <china> anybody who can help on my error msg...???
[16:57] <jetsaredim> what's the easiest way to force a reinstall of all of kde without reinstalling the whole system?
[16:57] <jussi01> !repeat | china
[16:57] <ubot3> china: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[16:58] <genii> dueperdue: There seems a very comprehensive example here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Privoxy
[16:59] <stdin> this is china's error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59394/
[16:59]  * genii goes to read it
[17:00] <china> stdin, how did u get it there?
[17:00] <stdin> china: I went to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and pasted it
[17:01] <stdin> after censoring the server/IP info
[17:01] <Nutzebahn> I am in the KDevelop interface designer and I don't know how to bring up the code window for the button I added to the form, how do I?
[17:02] <china> guys, u r great here...
[17:02] <dueperdue> thancks again genii
[17:02] <china> i am new to linux and it is learning by doing,.... tks @ all
[17:03] <Jucato> Nutzebahn: you might be able to get more help in #kdevelop
[17:03] <genii> dueperdue: You're welcome
[17:06] <siofwolves> would the HP j5730 printer be a good choice to get for ubuntu? i see the j5740 is well supported according to open printing.
[17:09] <sylvain-fr> !hi
[17:09] <ubot3> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[17:09] <sylvain-fr> Hi !
[17:10] <sylvain-fr> Anybody knows about multiseat ?
[17:10] <china> ubot3, can u advise any other channel for my special question about ssh?
[17:10] <ubot3> china: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[17:10] <jussi01> siofwolves: if it says perfectly working in open printing, I personally would go for that.
[17:10] <siofwolves> jussi01, ok, thx.
[17:10] <jussi01> siofwolves: thats only a personal opinion though
[17:11] <china> can anybody advise any other channel for my special question about ssh?
[17:11] <sylvain-fr> china: what's your question ?
[17:11] <china> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59394/ pls see this
[17:12] <stdin> china: try #openssh maybe
[17:12] <siofwolves> the HP Photosmart C4180 is an exact match at open printing and is a bit cheaper in price...
[17:13] <genii> sylvain-fr: An old but good link about multiseat config http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/14-Multiseat-X-Under-X11R6.97.0.html
[17:13] <jussi01> siofwolves: one thing though, cheaper is not always a better option
[17:13] <sylvain-fr> Tank you
[17:13] <china> sorry, back
[17:13] <sylvain-fr> But I have already many, many docs about it
[17:13] <genii> sylvain-fr: Whats your specific issue concerning it then?
[17:14] <sylvain-fr> That's xorg.conf that I can't configure correctly
[17:14] <china> sylvain-fr any idea fopr me?
[17:14] <sylvain-fr> I have 2 kb/scrrens/mouses
[17:14] <siofwolves> jussi01, its a half price offer £100 reduced to £50. the j5730 isn't made anymore.
[17:14] <sylvain-fr> china:no, sorry, maybe try to connect with another account than root
[17:15] <china> did not help sylvain
[17:15] <sylvain-fr> genii: I tried to configure xorg.conf usign "Option" "Device" "/dev/input/...." but it didn't work
[17:16] <sylvain-fr> china: sorry, I don't know very well SSH
[17:16] <sylvain-fr> china did you read man ?
[17:16] <china> yes, i did..
[17:16] <china> i guess it's in host.allow or host.deny, but i dont know where.
[17:20] <sylvain-fr> Is there a special chan for Xorg and/or multiseat ?
[17:20] <stdin> I thinks there's #xorg
[17:20] <sylvain-fr> yes, It's right. Thanks
[17:23] <aib_> hey, i'm about to give a presentation and i didn't expect to have to use kubuntu
[17:23] <aib_> will the projector automatically work when i plug it in? what do i need to do?
[17:24] <sylvain-fr> aib_ : maybe, If it's a standard graphical output (VGA/DVI)
[17:24] <aib_> it is
[17:24] <sylvain-fr> you may need to configure Xorg to use another resolution if you want
[17:24] <aib_> any commands i should know??
[17:24] <sylvain-fr> If it's VGA or DVI, it will work I think
[17:25] <aib_> ok thanks
[17:25] <aib_> anything like Function+F7 for switching recognized? e.g., like a dell running windows
[17:25] <sylvain-fr> Connect the videoprojector BEFORE starting Kubuntu and Xorg may detect it and work properly
[17:26] <sylvain-fr> aib_ : no
[17:27] <store> hey can someone help me out with an rsync command? this is the command i'm using and only the things in the main folder get synced and all the folders even folders within folders but no files in any sub directories get synced... rsync -e ssh -varuzP /home/store/Documents/ store@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/store/
[17:28] <aib_> wish me luck :
[17:28] <aib_> :)
[17:28] <sylvain-fr> :)
[17:28] <sylvain-fr> aib_ You should try before, in case...
[17:31] <sylvain-fr> !bye
[17:31] <ubot3> Au revoir!
[17:31] <sylvain-fr> bye
[17:35] <DasKreech>                                  hi Jucato
[17:35] <Jucato> um.. hi?  Knew I needed something like caffeine
[17:40]  * genii sips contentedly and tries to regain focus
[17:41] <cuzntx> !botsnack
[17:41] <ubot3> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[17:45] <dueperdue> somewane help me to active KDE efect?
[17:46] <Tonio__> exit
[17:51] <MilitantPotato> dueperdue: K Menu>System Settings>Window Behavior> then the far right two tabs
[17:53] <Orochimaru-sama> Kubuntu don't reconized my HD SATA...
[17:53] <Orochimaru-sama> ... it's because my mainboard are GIGABYTE?
[17:55] <zorglu_> offtopic: hmm i need to do some graph of network topology for a conf, anybody got suggestion on the tool to use ?
 I do it, but noffing.... i need to install mi ATI drivers..
[17:56] <MilitantPotato> dueperdue: did you install the ATI drivers from Adept or www.amd.com ?
[17:57] <aib_> my laptop recognized the projector and put the bootup screen there. kubuntu disabled it. i gave my presentation off the cuff, without slides
[17:57] <dueperdue> now
[17:57] <dueperdue> no
[17:57] <aib_> went quite well, no thanks to kubuntu though
[17:57] <MilitantPotato> dueperdue: ATI's drivers that come in the repos don't support AIGLX, so you'll need to install XGL
[17:57] <aib_> windows almost automatically handles this
[17:58] <MilitantPotato> If you're using gutsy, sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl    will work
[17:58] <MilitantPotato> otherwise
[17:58] <MilitantPotato> !xgl
[17:58] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:58] <Orochimaru-sama> no one seem's able to help me...
[17:58] <dueperdue> the command on the terminal?
[17:58] <Orochimaru-sama> >.>
[17:58] <MilitantPotato> dueperdue: yes, or from a package manager like adept
[17:58] <MilitantPotato> Orochimaru-sama: is it NTFS?
[17:59] <Orochimaru-sama> yes
[17:59] <dueperdue> ok, whats the comand?
[17:59] <Orochimaru-sama> o o
[17:59] <MilitantPotato> Orochimaru-sama: install ntfs-config and ntfs-3g if it's not already installed
[18:00] <MilitantPotato> dueperdue: K Menu>System< Adept Package Manager
[18:00] <MilitantPotato> Orochimaru-sama: also, linux won't mount a NTFS drive if it wasn't in a windows OS that was shut down properly
[18:02] <dueperdue> ok, and what i sherch?
[18:02] <MilitantPotato> XGL
[18:02] <dueperdue> ok
[18:02] <MilitantPotato> xserver-xgl is what you want
[18:03] <MilitantPotato> Once you've got it installed, log out, then do ctrl+alt+backspace
[18:03] <dueperdue> ok, now i'm installing
[18:03] <dueperdue> did you have any msn acount?
[18:04] <MilitantPotato> yea but I don't hand itout, sorry
[18:04] <dueperdue> ok
[18:07] <dueperdue> ok, I have install hem
[18:07] <dueperdue> now?
[18:07] <dueperdue> what I need to do for active the effects?
[18:08] <MilitantPotato> did you logout then hit ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[18:09] <Daicen> Hey...
[18:09] <MilitantPotato> Ho....
[18:09] <Daicen> I have a copy of Ubuntu Server, and I want to get the Kubuntu-desktop package, but I was wandering if I could set it up to NOT start KDE when I restart the computer...
[18:10] <MilitantPotato> Yep, on the login screen, there's a drop down menu to select the session
[18:10] <Daicen> Well..  KDM would have to start to get to that point, right?
[18:10] <dueperdue> ok
[18:10] <MilitantPotato> nah
[18:10] <MilitantPotato> you can use gdm or kdm
[18:10] <Daicen> I mean, like, put me into a console, and then let me start kdm when I want...
[18:10] <MilitantPotato> if it's using KDM, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[18:11] <MilitantPotato> then select GDM as the default
[18:11] <Daicen> Okay..
[18:11] <Daicen> Well...
[18:11] <Daicen> I'll be using KDM, I just don't want it to start unless I start it...
[18:11] <MilitantPotato> you don't need KDM to use KDE
[18:11] <Daicen> like remove it from startup...
[18:11] <Daicen> I understand...  ^.^
[18:11] <Daicen> I just must not be clear...
[18:11] <Daicen> Right now, I'm running a console only...
[18:11] <MilitantPotato> uhm
 i have some problems
[18:12] <Daicen> I want to keep it that way, and just type in a command to start kdm when I want it, rather than it start by default...
[18:12] <MilitantPotato> Daicen: I'm not sure how to do it from CLI
[18:12] <Daicen> MilitantPotato, That's cool..
[18:12] <MilitantPotato> It starts from a script, I think in init.d
[18:12] <Daicen> I'll look around elsewhere...
[18:13] <MilitantPotato> ruinning sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop/start/restart controls kdm
[18:13] <MilitantPotato> so maybe editing the script there will work?
[18:15] <carlitox> hi
[18:15] <carlitox> hola
[18:15] <Pici> !es
[18:15] <ubot3> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:15] <carlitox> alguien vivo¡?
[18:15] <carlitox> hola
[18:15] <Daicen> removing it from startup?
[18:15] <Daicen> That may work...
[18:16] <carlitox> wena wena paisano
[18:16] <carlitox> nos estamos t erciando
[18:16] <Pici> um. sudo update-rc.d remove kdm   i belive
[18:16] <dueperdue> I see some lines on mi desktop...
[18:17] <dueperdue> Pici > for me?
[18:17] <acee1234>  i keep getting issues from alot of my programs saying something is already listening on the port they need tor....azureus, ktorrent etc whats going on here. any ideas? if you have none where might i ask
[18:17] <Pici> dueperdue: no.
[18:17] <sonic> Hey people, could point me in the direction of some info on sending data to the serial port? I need to send a recorded signal out to a PIC
[18:19] <genii>  acee1234: A simple way is something like cat filename| /dev/ttyS0      for instance
[18:19] <genii> sorry wrong recipient
[18:20] <genii> sonic:  A simple way is something like cat filename| /dev/ttyS0      for instance
[18:20] <dueperdue> how con I disinstall KDE effects?
[18:20]  * genii makes another coffee
[18:22] <ddurham> with KDE 3.5, I was able to switch between konsole tabs with alt-1, alt-2, etc.   Anyway to do this with KDE4 Konsole?
[18:23] <sonic> genii: Thanks. Is there a way I can simulate this to see how the signal looks at the outpupt?
[18:24] <Kr|ptiX> how do i get libX11.so.6
[18:25] <genii> sonic: Not that I know of. Although conceivably you could put a nullmodem cable to another box and use something to read it there
[18:26] <sonic> ok, thanks genil
[18:26] <tzd> how do I install free fonts please? I have a website that only has PC or MAC version... Will i still be able to download and install the PC version on kubuntu please?
[18:26] <Skaman> hi guys
[18:26] <Kr|ptiX> how do i fix libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.3.2) is needed by <file> error
[18:27] <Skaman> i need to run a cmd @ startup....where should i have to put it under hardy?
[18:27] <carlitox> %carlitox!*@*
[18:32] <Kr|ptiX> does any1 kno how to fix libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.3.2) is needed by <file> error
[18:32] <carlitox> wenas
[18:33] <acee1234>  i keep getting issues from alot of my programs saying something is already listening on the port they need tor....azureus, ktorrent etc whats going on here. any ideas? if you have none where might i ask
[18:34] <jpatrick> !es | carlitox
[18:34] <ubot3> carlitox: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:37] <DasKreech> genii: koffee
[18:38] <DasKreech> hi Orochimaru-sama
[18:38] <zPliskiN> where can i find GOOD kde themes ?
[18:38] <DasKreech> Skaman: /etc/rc.local
[18:38] <DasKreech> zPliskiN: kde-look.org
[18:40] <placinta> Hello. Is it a bug, that you can't change keyboard layouts in kde, using alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.?
[18:41] <SpoersterJohn> or a feature?
[18:41] <Jucato> placinta: it's not a bug. you really can't use 2 modifiers by themselves
[18:41] <Jucato> (modifiers being alt, shift, ctrl)
[18:41] <acee1234> i keep getting issues from alot of my programs saying something is already listening on the port they need tor....azureus, ktorrent etc whats going on here. any ideas? did net stat didnt find any issues there another symptom is azureus take about 5 min to start
[18:42] <Jucato> placinta: the default keyboard shortcut to change layouts is Ctrl+Alt+K but be warned. once you changed layouts, K might not be K anymore
[18:42] <placinta> Jucato: Isn't there any way to make alt-shift work?
[18:42] <Jucato> (you'll have to press the K for that layout to use Ctrl+Alt+K again)
[18:43] <placinta> If you can't use only 2 modifiers, than why is there such a choice in the options?
[18:43] <tzd> how do I install free fonts please? I have a website that only has PC or MAC version... Will i still be able to download and install the PC version on kubuntu please?
[18:44] <sigma_1234> how does firefox 3 beta4 look in kde?
[18:44] <carlitox> Connection timed out
[18:44] <carlitox> Connection timed out
[18:45] <sigma_1234> tzd: yes. install them with the font installer in system settings
[18:46] <tzd> sigma_1234:  ah ok. I read somewhere i could drag and drop by typing: fonts:/// in konqueror and then drag the fonts to any folder and it would then install... will that work too?
[18:46] <Jucato> placinta: I'm not exactly sure what it does, but "Alt+Shift changes group" doesn't mean "change keyboard layout"
[18:46] <Skaman> thnx DasKreech
[18:46] <Skaman> works fine
[18:46] <placinta> Jucato: Ok...
[18:47] <tzd> sigma_1234: hmm your way was just as easy anyway :) thanks a lot for your help!
[18:48] <sigma_1234> tzd: no problem
[18:49] <acee1234> i keep getting issues from alot of my programs saying something is already listening on the port they need tor....azureus, ktorrent etc whats going on here. any ideas? did net stat didnt find any issues there another symptom is azureus take about 5 min to start
[18:49]  * genii slides DasKreech a large, strongly brewed coffee
[18:53] <zorglu_> offtopic: hmm i need to do some graph of network topology for a conf, anybody got suggestion on the tool to use ?
[18:54] <Jucato> zorglu_: kmplot? kchart? not really sure. just throwing guesses )
[18:54] <zorglu_> Jucato: never heard of them. will google for those names. thanks
[18:55] <Jucato> !info kmplot
[18:55] <ubot3> kmplot: mathematical function plotter for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 543 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[18:55] <Jucato> !info kchart
[18:55] <ubot3> kchart: a chart drawing program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.3-0ubuntu5.1 (gutsy), package size 1356 kB, installed size 3660 kB
[18:55] <zorglu_> Jucato: thanks. you are always here to answer my questions. this is cool :)
[18:56] <Jucato> heh. I'm not even sure I gave the right answers :P
[18:56] <Jucato> (or you're just lucky :P)
[18:56] <zorglu_> Jucato: i need to find a business model for my p2p video startup, you know any ?:)
[18:56] <Jucato> haha no :)
[18:56] <zorglu_> too bad :)
[18:56] <Jucato> and p2p + video = scary legal stuff included :)
[18:57] <zorglu_> nah, legal only here. im not stage6 :)
[19:00] <Kr|ptiX> where can i get GLIBC_2.3.2
[19:03] <DasKreech> genii: tea?
[19:04] <genii> DasKreech: No thank you, I'll stick to my coffee
[19:04] <DasKreech> No I want tea
[19:04] <genii> Kr|ptiX: Why do you want a version from 2005 when the latest is 2.95.4 ?
[19:05]  * genii sneaks DasKreech a nice cup of Earl Grey
[19:05] <DasKreech> bless you genii!!
[19:05] <genii> DasKreech: Shhh, pretend it's coffee
[19:06] <genii> ;)
[19:06] <DasKreech> heehee
[19:07] <Kr|ptiX> i just want i get GLIBC how do i get it
[19:08] <genii> Kr|ptiX: sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[19:09] <Kr|ptiX> im still gettn this error
[19:09] <Kr|ptiX> libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.3.2) is
[19:10] <Kr|ptiX> libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.3.2) is needed by flash-plugin-<IP_ADDRESS>-release.i386
[19:19] <genii> Kr|ptiX: please report result of: uname -a                     you may be using 64 bit version
[19:19] <kotsergy> uname -a
[19:21] <adrock358> Anybody help a brother out with a dual boot?
[19:21] <tekteen> adrock358: sure
[19:21] <adrock358> trying to install ubuntu on my system with vista.  i don'
[19:22] <adrock358> t like vista, but i need it for work.
[19:22] <tekteen> adrock358: I have that setup on my computer
[19:22] <adrock358> cool man.  i can't figure out how to install it
[19:22] <tekteen> adrock358: new laptop (a few months) and have not used vista yet
[19:22] <adrock358> tekteen.  ha.  yeah...
[19:23] <tekteen> adrock358: first thing you do is boot up vista
[19:23] <adrock358> i really like ubuntu over the other os's.  it gives you so much more power.
[19:23] <adrock358> tekteen. ok
[19:23] <tekteen> adrock358: you need to resize your partition
[19:23] <tekteen> so we have room for kubuntu
[19:24] <tekteen> I forget how to do that though
[19:24] <adrock358> from windows tekteen?
[19:24] <tekteen> you can look it up online
[19:24] <tekteen> yes
[19:24] <tekteen> windows is better at ntfs resizing then linux
[19:24] <adrock358> Ahh.  ok.  I've been trying it with the ubuntu live cd and I am having a problem
[19:25] <adrock358> tekteen.  alright.
[19:25] <adrock358> tekteen.  all right, well should i do that then come back in?
[19:25] <tekteen> yeah
[19:25] <adrock358> i mean, if you're here
[19:25] <tekteen> also as a caution
[19:26] <tekteen> windows refuses to give up alot of space
[19:26] <adrock358> tekteen.  actually.  if you just told me what to do after that, i could save coming back here.  plus it may take a long time for me to figure it out.
[19:26] <tekteen> http://www.pronetworks.org/forum/viewstory.php?t=78111
[19:26] <tekteen> for resizing
[19:27] <tekteen> after that you need to install kubuntu with the option to use available free space
[19:27] <adrock358> what i actually did it partitioned my 300gb hardrive in half.  I wish i could just install ubuntu on the other partition with no files on it
[19:27] <adrock358> tekteen.  ok
[19:27] <tekteen> you can
[19:27] <adrock358> i'm trying but i get an error.
[19:27] <tekteen> as long as there is space you can
[19:27] <tekteen> what is the error?
[19:27] <Kr|ptiX> Linux lappy 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:27] <adrock358> tekteen.  yeah there is space.
[19:28] <adrock358> tekteen.  hold on
[19:28] <adrock358> tekteen.  no root defined
[19:28] <jussi01> adrock358: make sure you defrag before trying to repartition, like 2 or 3 or 4 times
[19:29] <tekteen> adrock358: that is easy
[19:29] <adrock358> tekteen.  my mount point is /media/sda2
[19:29] <tekteen> adrock358: you need to select the partition and then change the mount to /
[19:29] <tekteen> / WILL BE DELETED
[19:30] <tekteen> this is a warning
[19:30] <adrock358> tekteen.  change it to /?
[19:30] <tekteen> yes
[19:30] <adrock358> there is nothing on sda2 anyway.  oh.  ok man.  i'll give that a try.
[19:30] <tekteen> you should also select a swap partition with 2GB
[19:31] <warren_> hi
[19:31] <tekteen> warren_: hi
[19:31] <warren_> is there one person under windows here to help me ?
[19:31] <warren_> i've made a video with kdenlive but don't know i fit works under windows ^^
[19:31] <tekteen> !ask|warren_
[19:31] <ubot3> warren_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:31] <tekteen> sorry
[19:33] <Kr|ptiX> genii: Linux lappy 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:34] <adrock358> tekteen.  it said to mount the partition on ext2 not /
[19:34] <tekteen> adrock358: ext2 is the format type
[19:35] <adrock358> tekteen.  still i can
[19:36] <tekteen> adrock358: what is the problem?
[19:36] <adrock358> 't go on.  i am stuck at prepare partitions with  all my devices listed.  i need a new mount point
[19:37] <tekteen> haven't you decided which partition to use?
[19:37] <adrock358> tekteen.  wait.  did you say make a 2gb swap partition first?
[19:37] <tekteen> adrock358: it is a good idea
[19:37] <tekteen> do you know what swap does?
[19:38] <adrock358> does that make it boot up faster?
[19:38] <tekteen> no
[19:38] <tekteen> it is ram on the hd
[19:38] <genii> Kr|ptiX: So when you do:   sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree          does it report anything useful?
[19:39] <tekteen> it is for hibernating and if you use all your ram
[19:39] <adrock358> tekteen.  what does the swap part do exactly?
[19:39] <tekteen> !swap
[19:39] <ubot3> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[19:39] <adrock358> tekteen.  yeah I'
[19:40] <adrock358> darn.  i keep doing that.  I'm still stuck at choosing partitions, because when I choose my empty partition, the one without vista, it says there is no root sys defined.
[19:41] <adrock358> tekteen.  sounds nice.  i'd like to do that.  once i can choose my primary partition