[09:18] <popey> FWIW I have never witnessed a bridge between two chat protocols which wasn't actively harmful to one side of the chat.
[09:19] <popey> In my experience it's Matrix which is the harmful actor in every single one of these situations.
[09:19] <ogra> 👍
[09:36] <oerheks> “Dad why is my sisters name rose?”  Because your mother loves roses  “Thanks Dad”   No problem Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS !!!
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> is that a community riddle oerheks :p
[09:49] <oerheks> yes, dad
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:20] <Fallen> Eickmeyer: did you learn anything new regarding the bridge? Should I reach out to someone at libera?
[14:20] <Eickmeyer> It should be operational now.
[14:21] <Eickmeyer[m]> Test
[14:21] <Eickmeyer> Looks good
[14:21] <Eickmeyer[m]> All is well.
[14:21] <Fallen> Perfect, thank you!
[14:26] <Eickmeyer[m]> The long and short of it is Libera outsourced the running of the bridge to Element Web Services (they no longer run the bridge themselves), and a scheduled restart happened during a netsplit, which caused havoc on the bridge.
[14:32] <ogra> outsourcing the maintenance of one of your core components is indeed a clever move ...
[14:33] <ogra> just wait til canonical outsources kernel maintenance to microsoft 😛
[14:47] <Fallen> my old company used to have a laugh-cry emoji I'd like to use here :)
[14:55] <ravage> its like outsourcing your default browser to... oh wait :P
[14:58] <ogra> well, i wouldnt mind if we could outsource maintaining our kernel to linus like we did with the browser 😉
[15:00] <ravage> how is he doing with code of conduct latetly? could be a liability :D
[15:00] <ogra> haha
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers/+bug/1989359
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> some cool walls amongst them
[15:05] <ravage> would be awesome to have a winner that can be releases with all the available color sytles gnome offers now
[15:05] <ravage> *released
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[15:06] <ravage> i mean there are like 3 greens. so maybe one of them would be ok :)
[15:07] <ravage> but blue, orange, green, red would be awesome
[15:16] <arraybolt3> Fallen: I've recently gotten caught up with a different project and haven't been paying a whole lot of attention to the documentation stuff. Is there anything in particular I should be doing for us to stay on schedule?
[15:23] <Fallen> arraybolt3: I'm a bit behind myself, had some other responsibilities to take care of last week. I think what I am missing mainly is the call to action, e.g. where do we point folks so they can get started. The simplest option would be (simplified) "go to #ubuntu-doc and tell us you are interested", but requires a bit more manual conversations. The more involved option would be "Here is a page about the effort, a tracker, and how to get
[15:23] <Fallen> started, and also hang out on IRC so we can chat with you", but that will take a bit longer to get out and might make it more difficult to align people.
[15:24] <Fallen> How do you think we should be starting the conversation with folks?
[15:25] <arraybolt3> While it will require more manual conversations if we go with "poke your head in #ubuntu-doc and ask", that's essentially what Lubuntu does (IIRC), and that's how I ended up onboarding with them.
[15:26] <arraybolt3> This was all of the info I had about contributing to Lubuntu when I first came in: https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/B/Contributing.html and https://lubuntu.me/links/
[15:26] <arraybolt3> Fallen: So since that seems to have worked well, that would be my first thought. Give a general idea of what to do, then come in and chat to get the details and become onboarded.
[15:27] <arraybolt3> (Become onboarded... /me wonders if that's actually a term)
[21:34] <Fallen> I've used it for sure, maybe "get onboarded" :D I think that is reasonable. I've let the CC know, I think if we don't get an answer until Thursday we can proceed.
[21:39] <arraybolt3> Fallen: Nice! (Hey, if you sent any messages before this most recent one, I missed them - power company messing with stuff = power outage = IRC outage :( so if you sent anything I missed I'd appreciate it if you could re-send it.)
[21:39] <Fallen> Nothing inbetween :)
[21:40] <arraybolt3> Nice.


[15:41] <elacheche> nzoueidi: I finally had free time to read and answer some emails..
[15:41] <elacheche> o/ hello nizarus and folks
[16:52] <nzoueidi> Glad! :D you may reply to the mail of Dalila
[16:53] <nizarus> nzoueidi: elacheche : la date de l'event de jandouba c'est quand ? j'ai pas trouvé ça sur le wiki
[16:55] <nzoueidi> I think we will not go :( elacheche won't go and I don't want to go there alone, maybe if there is another member of the community we can go together
[16:56] <elacheche> nizarus: On attend le vote de davelefou pour fixer la date ça doit être pour le 4 ou le 11 mars
[16:56] <elacheche> https://framadate.org/EventISETJ17-03
[16:59] <nizarus> Ah d'accord ! si c'était le weekend des vacances j'aurais probablement assisté :/
[16:59] <nizarus> là c'est difficile
[16:59] <nizarus> mais il y a déjà une belle équipe
[17:01] <elacheche> C'est quand le weekend des vacances? x)
[17:04] <nzoueidi> elacheche: you will attend the event?
[17:05] <elacheche> 96.359% nzoueidi x)
[17:05] <nzoueidi> haha that means YES! :D
[17:05] <nizarus> 18 mars
[17:06] <elacheche> Seriously, I'm planning to go, but I hope that there will be no complication when the event date will be close
[17:07] <nzoueidi> Then, I think no nizarus the event will be 4 or 11 March
[17:07] <nzoueidi> I hope so elacheche
[17:07] <nzoueidi> elacheche: WDYT I can do as workshop? any thoughts
[17:10] <elacheche> The Linux Devone is cool.. I know you can do the SysAdmin one too, and the docker one..
[17:10] <elacheche> You know, if we'll be there together we'll not do anything in solo.. We always help each others and have fun :D
[17:11] <nzoueidi> That's sure, cool :D
[17:12] <elacheche> If you have other ideas add them to the list, and then when we set the date we'll just give the themes notes and choose what to do..
[17:12] <nzoueidi> Linux kernel dev u don't think it is a little advanced for the students there?
[17:12] <nzoueidi> Alright, inchallah
[17:12] <elacheche> Yes it can be..
[17:13] <elacheche> the docker one is advanced too.. It needs sysAdmin 101 as requirement..
[17:13] <elacheche> basic understanding of Linux sysAdmin..
[17:14] <nzoueidi> I suggest to do sysAdmin 101 and 102 then docker
[17:14] <elacheche> A slide about the virtualisation is needed as well + the LXC feature of the kernel and why Docker was created at 1st
[17:14] <nzoueidi> I am thinking likewise to something related to Ubuntu, like packaging MOTU
[17:15] <elacheche> That can be a good plan, but we'll ignore the "DSI" students and just talk to the "RSI" in that case :/ x) I hope that develefou or volksmox have some dev oriented ideas x)
[17:16] <elacheche> Packaging is cool.. If yo know how to do that go ahead and add it to the list, I never had a real interest in packaging x)
[17:16] <nzoueidi> I hope so, otherwise can do triaging bugs to dev guys
[17:17] <elacheche> that'll be cool
[17:17] <elacheche> too
[17:18] <nzoueidi> in the 2 subjects traiging bugs and packaging would be 1st steps we will make it very advanced..
[17:19] <nzoueidi> I mean not very advanced* x)
[17:19] <elacheche> Yeah, we should always do 101 levels, if the audience can support more we ++
[17:20] <nzoueidi> Yep :D I will see some resources/slides we can follow