[16:20] <jbicha> hi, I think you can drop your depends on app-install-data
[16:20] <jbicha> also I'm really curious to know more details about why you don't install tracker by default any more
[16:21] <jbicha> https://community.ubuntu.com/t/install-tracker-by-default-in-18-04-lts/1483
[19:39] <fossfreedom_> jbicha, will do with app-install-data
[19:41] <fossfreedom_> with regards to tracker - we had quite alot of people complaining about long processes running/fan's blowing/high cpu during the 17.04 cycle.  This was tracked down to tracker.  Removing it hasnt caused any comment (yet) as to inability to search for stuff via nautilus.
[19:42] <jbicha> can you quantify "quite a lot"?
[19:42] <fossfreedom_> dozen or so people in our community room
[19:43] <jbicha> ok, feel free to comment on the Community thread with your perspective
[19:43] <jbicha> it's a difficult situation
[19:43] <jbicha> from Nautilus and Tracker's perspective, Tracker is shipped by every GNOME distro for years without that much of a problem
[19:43] <jbicha> if there is a problem, they'd love to see specific bugs
[19:44] <fossfreedom_> sure - forgotten the amount of time I urge people to run ubuntu-bug on stuff ... unfortunately very few do.
[19:45] <jbicha> I think the Ubuntu Desktop team is hesitant to add a complex component that might cause problems for some or many people right before an important LTS
[19:45] <jbicha> either way the team decides, there will be criticism :|
[19:46] <fossfreedom_> agreed.  Can't please everyone.
[20:10] <jbicha> thanks
[20:58] <jbicha> fossfreedom_: do you intentionally include indicators in Ubuntu Budgie?
[20:59] <fossfreedom_> appindicators jbicha ?  yeah - we have support for them.  Need to have a look this cycle on converting to use the new ayatana libraries
[20:59] <jbicha> oh ok
[20:59] <jbicha> and the other ones are intentional too? -bluetooth, -keyboard, etc.?
[21:00] <jbicha> what do you think about xdiagnose? most other Ubuntu flavors stopped shipping it
[21:00] <fossfreedom_> the unity bluetooth, keyboard indicators I have coded not to display because budgie has native applets for these
[21:01] <jbicha> do you know why they are installed by default?
[21:02] <fossfreedom_> not sure - need to look what is pulling them in.  I know on the ISO itself, those indicators are in the live (or shiplive) seeds since they appear in the ubiquity panel
[21:03] <jbicha> (I'm heading out for an hour)


[06:34] <ruben23> hi guys any help how to uninstall perl or cpan but im getting error with this ---> http://pastebin.com/u9qgH63f
[06:34] <ruben23> any one can help please
[06:37] <rahuldroy> ruben23: try doing a clean
[06:38] <rahuldroy> sudo apt-get autoclean
[06:40] <ruben23> nothing happens
[06:40] <ruben23> Reading state information... Done
[06:41] <ruben23> no activity at all
[06:44] <ruben23> rahuldroy: still there.?
[06:45] <rahuldroy> ruben23: how did this come about?
[06:47] <rahuldroy> can you try doing an apt-get update just to make sure all your cache is upto date
[06:49] <ruben23> all done - complete..up to date
[06:50] <rahuldroy> now try doing the remove
[06:50] <rahuldroy> do you also have all the updates installed as well>
[06:50] <rahuldroy> ?*
[06:52] <ruben23> yes
[06:52] <Amir1> What`s the best way to Remaster an installed Ubuntu Server?
[06:52] <ruben23> stil the same
[06:52] <ruben23> http://pastebin.com/u9qgH63f
[07:20] <Amir1> What`s the best way to Remaster an installed Ubuntu Server  without GUI ?
[07:28] <Amir1> What`s the best way to Remaster an installed Ubuntu Server  without GUI ?
[09:50] <Amir1> What`s the best way to Remaster an installed Ubuntu Server  without GUI ?
[09:51] <mardraum> maybe you should rephrase your question instead of simply repeating it
[11:26] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[13:47] <Jinxed-> why does ubuntu server take like 4 hrs to install
[13:47] <Jinxed-> and ubuntu desktop like 10 min
[13:48] <pmatulis> Jinxed-: 4 hrs, exaggeration?
[13:50] <pmatulis> Jinxed-: but server uses ubuntu-installer that actually installs packages (dpkg) whereas the desktop uses ubiquity that copies files (cp)
[13:53] <Jinxed-> well I wasted like 4 hours
[13:53] <Jinxed-> it failed on installing grub
[13:53] <Jinxed-> tried lilo
[13:53] <Jinxed-> warned me about something, so I decided to "Go Back"
[13:53] <Jinxed-> instead it continued
[13:53] <Jinxed-> rebooted
[13:54] <Jinxed-> and just displays 99999999
[13:54] <Jinxed-> so now I'm downloading centos
[13:57] <rbasak> With cloud images, installation is really fast. MAAS for bare metal, but that's more focused on scale, not for individual users.
[13:57] <rbasak> If you need 500 nodes though, cloud images are the way to go.
[14:14] <mnngfltg2> Does anyone have a hint how I can find out what service is causing 5GB of traffic every hour on my server?
[14:17] <mnngfltg2> In particular in `ntop` I see many GiB of UDP traffic (much more than TCP). Any idea how I can find out where it comes from?
[14:21] <RoyK> mnngfltg2: wireshark?
[14:23] <mnngfltg2> royk, let me try tcpdump first
[14:23] <RoyK> mnngfltg2: wireshark can do that too - see tshark
[14:27] <mnngfltg2> royk, hmm I see the traffic in `tshark`
[14:27] <mnngfltg2> can I find out which process is sending those datagrams?
[14:33] <RoyK> mnngfltg2: make a 30sec dump and analyse the traffic first - see what it contains
[14:33] <RoyK> mnngfltg2: tshark -w something.pcap
[14:34] <mnngfltg2> ok
[14:37] <RoyK> tshark -a duration:60 -w something.pcap
[14:37] <RoyK> iirc
[14:38] <mnngfltg2> I'll try that. Looks like it is a bit of work.
[14:39] <mnngfltg2> thanks for your help, I'll capture the traffic the next time I get a traffic surge
[14:40] <RoyK> did you find out which udp port this was?
[14:42] <mnngfltg2> well it looks like one of the users of the server is using "teamspeak" as a server
[14:42] <mnngfltg2> which causes lots of udp traffic
[14:42] <mnngfltg2> but I'm not 100% sure that that's all there is to it
[18:17] <Gregor3000> unatended-updates: Unattended-Upgrade::Mail "root"; how to add more emails? within " " as in "root<EMAIL_ADDRESS>etc?
[19:40] <dine909> i have 3 usb dongles that each in essence add a network interface, the problem is they all have the same MAC address, so linux is having a tough time mounting all the devices, has anyone any ideas on what i can do?
[19:42] <pmatulis> -
[19:42] <pmatulis> -+
[19:56] <dasjoe> dine909: complain to your vendor, they should not have the same MAC address
[20:04] <dine909> huawei
[20:04] <dine909> i will - but i have 11 hours to do the task at hand
[20:04] <dine909> i may have got around it, but just been slapped in the face with a netns issue
[20:05] <dine909> well not net ns. but device naming
[20:05] <dine909> if you move a sequentially id'd connection ie wwan0 into a netns, the next adaptor acquires wwan0 again :s
[21:31] <streulma> hello
[21:32] <streulma> I'm migrating mail from sendmail to postfix
[21:32] <streulma> I have a few questions
[21:32] <streulma> how can I use user%domain ?
[23:40] <bremden> I'm trying to set up a personal web server with ubuntu server 14.04, system powers up, but after selecting the boot disk, it goes to a blank screen with a flashing cursor, and becomes unresponsive to input. Any ideas why?