[06:46] <JJHathoway> Probably a dumb question, but i cant seem to find a simple answer on the net....i just installed ubuntu server (LAMP, OpenSSH)  and i want to access the generic default web site that is loaded with apache
[06:46] <JJHathoway> how do i do that
[06:47] <horizxon> i put the line in the sudoers file ALL    ALL=NOPASSWD and it isnt giving me all powers
[06:47] <Arrick> how the devil do I save a text file that is edited in vi and get out of it?
[06:47] <nickrud> JJHathoway, point your browser at http://localhost
[06:47] <neil_d> JJHathoway: have you tried http://<IP_ADDRESS> ?
[06:47] <nickrud> Arrick, :wq
[06:48] <horizxon> Arrick, press escape then :wq
[06:48] <earthling> Arrick: <Esc> : wq
[06:48] <JJHathoway> nickrud:  i take it you mean from a different computer?
[06:49] <nickrud> JJHathoway, your computer is also known as  localhost. you can use the <IP_ADDRESS>   also
[06:50] <pteague> theta or iota for the name of a dual-monitor desktop?
[06:50] <JJHathoway> ok, maybe i need to back up, my server is connected to my router....the computer im on is connected to my router....im ssh'd in to my server to make modifications(or actually none to this point), but <IP_ADDRESS> should work?
[06:50] <EnderTheThird> Anyone else have trouble with the 169.07 nvidia driver causing the computer not to boot with the driver working?
[06:50] <byonix> can i still use feisty repositories if have upgraded my feisty to gutsy?
[06:50] <nickrud> JJHathoway, no, you'd need to forward port 80 on your router, then use the public address of your router
[06:51] <nickrud> JJHathoway, erm, both computers are on the same side of the router?
[06:51] <JJHathoway> yes
[06:51] <toplok> ubotu, can't find openssh-server, do I have to install it first using apt-get install ?
[06:51] <nickrud> JJHathoway, then http://<numeric address of machine you want to see>
[06:51] <toplok> !info openssh-server
[06:51] <ubotu> openssh-server: secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.6p1-5build1 (gutsy), package size 241 kB, installed size 640 kB
[06:52] <neil_d> JJHathoway: use the IP of your server,  can you ping the server ?
[06:52] <pteague> toplok> yeah, you need the server on the machine you're planning to ssh into
[06:52] <katharos> Sepheebear, i still dont know why it would hang when booting
[06:52] <JJHathoway> yes i can...im actually ssh'ed into it at the moment
[06:53] <Arrick> nickrud: your first unsatisfied customer, it doesnt apply at all
[06:53] <Arrick> the apache deal that is
[06:54] <nickrud> Arrick, what doesn't? Oh, the mod_rewrite. Darn, thats strike nine hundred ninety three. I guess I gotta give up now :)
[06:54] <JJHathoway> nickrud: putting http://<IP_ADDRESS> (which is the address my router has for static dhcp for my server)
[06:54] <JJHathoway> doesnt work for me
[06:54] <nickrud> JJHathoway, no, use the same ip as you did to ssh
[06:54] <JJHathoway> i do
[06:54] <toplok> pteague, I al ready installed it doing apt-get install openssh-server, how to start it ? thx
[06:55] <nickrud> JJHathoway, then your server is either firewalled, or not running
[06:55] <Sepheebear> katharos: im not sure where its hanging. i would comment out every change you made to /etc/modprobe,d/bttv and readd them line by line or just start with the bttv and options lines to begin with
[06:55] <neil_d> JJHathoway: have you done a restart of apache ?
[06:55] <JJHathoway> neil_d:  nope, thats probably a good place to start
[06:55] <pteague> toplok> should be able to /etc/init.d/ssh start
[06:55] <Arrick> lol nickrud
[06:56] <katharos> Sepheebear, ok, i'll try a reboot now and see if it hangs again.
[06:56] <Arrick> it would be nice if apache would just help out nickrud, they pointed me to about 40 gigs of docs
[06:56] <fotoflo> ack
[06:56] <fotoflo> why is the ubuntu default apache.conf so ugly
[06:56] <fotoflo> ?!?!\
[06:56] <toplok> thx!
[06:56] <nickrud> Arrick, yeah, I found a howto for mod_rewrite for drupal, but it was 2.2
[06:56] <Sepheebear> katharos: "alias char-major-81 bttv" and "options bttv card=113 autoload=0 radio=0 tuner=1 pll=1"
[06:56] <Arrick> lol nickrud
[06:57] <nickrud> Arrick, and I just blindly followed it, and thankfully it worked.
[06:57] <Arrick> lol
[06:57] <JJHathoway> you are supposed to start it with a script correct?
[06:57] <pteague> so ugly?
[06:57] <nickrud> JJHathoway, sudo invoke-rc.d apache restart
[06:58] <zeno> my computer always boots up at 1300mhz but can run at 1790mhz, in windows i use a utility to set it each time I load XP,.. is there a way to do this in ubuntu ?
[06:58] <fotoflo> pteague: long and ugly
[06:58] <Arrick> nickrud: how do I uninstall apache2 to make it so that it reinstalls with the default stuff?
[06:58] <Nostahl> set it in bios
[06:58] <Nostahl> zeno set your clock speed in bios
[06:58] <pteague> Arrick> purge should do it
[06:59] <Arrick> syntax?
[06:59] <toplok> pteague,  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd                             [ OK ] , but still can't login to my machine from another machine doing:
[06:59] <nickrud> Arrick, depends on which apache version you installed, the prefork or worker or ...
[06:59] <pteague> aptitude purge <package>
[06:59] <Arrick> nickrud: apache2
[06:59] <toplok> pteague, ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:59] <Arrick> thats the name of the package
[06:59] <neil_d> JJHathoway: hows it going
[06:59] <zeno> nostahl, ya, tried 1000 times from the bios, its borked.  its a AMD xp 2100 but will only boot up as a xp-1500..  setting it in windows works fine, need to do the same if I can in linux
[06:59] <JJHathoway> without adding any thing to the LAMP installation.... and after restarting apache, shouldn't the web site at  /var/www/apache2-default load?
[07:00] <Nostahl> flash your bios
[07:00] <pteague> toplok> ah, no... you won't be able to ssh in as root... root login is disabled by default... you'll have to login as a normal user & then su/sudo
[07:00] <Nostahl> maby they did an update to fix that for ya
[07:00] <nickrud> Arrick, do  COLUMNS=255  dpkg -l 'apache*' | grep ii , you'll find the actual apache server you're running
[07:00] <JJHathoway> still nothing...request is timing out
[07:00] <zeno> nostahl, updated to the latest bios on several ocassions
[07:00] <toplok> ok, thx
[07:00] <BlaenkDenum> hey how can I apply 777 permissions to all files/folders on 'blah', chmod -R 777 blah/ ?
[07:00] <horizxon> how do I change my system to allow a certain user to mount some drive without knowing what the drive is beforehand? what gives root the permissions to do this and no other user? what file should i edit?
[07:00] <Borbus> Does anyone know any media player that has a pretty decent library (like amarok) but supports replay gain?
[07:00] <zeno> any chance the cpu frequency can be set in ubuntu ?
[07:00] <BlaenkDenum> hey how can I apply 777 permissions to all files/folders on 'blah', chmod -R 777 blah/ ?
[07:01] <JJHathoway> BlaenkDenum:  yes
[07:01] <BlaenkDenum> JJHathoway: thanks
[07:01] <Arrick> ii  apache2                                                   2.0.55-4ubuntu2.2
[07:01] <Arrick> nickrud: ^
[07:01] <Arrick> and the utils and mpm
[07:01] <neil_d> JJHathoway: I don't know you will probably have to look in the apache logs to see whats going on.
[07:01] <Fritz> blaenk, be careful changing permissions.  777 is rarely needed
[07:01] <v507> hello
[07:01] <v507> i need help
[07:02] <neil_d> JJHathoway: does it have something like 'get index.html' ?
[07:02] <timfrost> toplok: if the remote system (<IP_ADDRESS>) is Ubuntu, you *won't* be able to ssh in as root by default.
[07:02] <nickrud> Arrick, I get also apache2-mpm-prefork, that's the actual server I'm running. I'd purge that, and apache2.2-common
[07:02] <v507> when i want to install, it said  Could not connect to id.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:02] <JJHathoway> neil_d:  index.html is located in /var/www/apache2-default
[07:02] <toplok> pteague, ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Operation timed out. What to do ? :(
[07:02] <Fritz> v507 - you are in the right place, assuming it is ubuntu related and not medical
[07:02] <Arrick> nickrud: how to purge, it wasnt installed with aptitude
[07:02] <v507> when i want to install, it said  Could not connect to id.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:02] <nickrud> Arrick, aptitude purge will do nicely
[07:03] <neil_d> JJHathoway: but is there an entry in your access.log file for index.html ?
[07:03] <v507> so how to install now??
[07:03] <tonsofpcs> ok, so my system decided it wanted to die on me... I got it up and at a console, df shows Size and Used, but 0 Avail, Used is about 500 MB < Size.... any clue how I can fix this? fsck doesn't do much
[07:03] <toplok> timfrost, thx! I can't also login as a user from another pc: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:03] <v507> i have to wait.....
[07:03] <Fritz> v507 - is your internet connection working on the live CD?
[07:03] <pteague> toplok> do you have that port blocked? can you ping that server?
[07:03] <v507> no
[07:03] <v507> i allready install
[07:04] <v507> yesterday everything is finr
[07:04] <v507> yesterday everything is fine
[07:04] <katharos> Sepheebear, well it didn't hang this time :)
[07:04] <JJHathoway> neil_d:  where are the logs located?
[07:04] <v507> i can install using apt-get easily
[07:04] <katharos> Sepheebear, but still no /dev/video0
[07:04] <v507> but today
[07:04] <Fritz> v507 - you said you got this when trying to install - I think I missed what you are trying to install
[07:04] <nickrud> JJHathoway, do you have lynx installed on the the machine you've ssh'd into?  If not, install it, it's a text browser, then point it at http://<IP_ADDRESS> to see if apache is actually up
[07:05] <v507> traceroute
[07:05] <v507> emerald
[07:05] <v507> and anything els
[07:05] <v507> and anything else
[07:05] <tonsofpcs> I just deleted 100 MB of files and it still says 0 FREE
[07:05] <toplok> pteague, I have properly ssh into a lan pc. now from that pc I want to ssh to my pc
[07:05] <Arrick> nickrud: that just rebuilds it with the current configs, i want it GONE so I can start fresh
[07:05] <Greevous> When I manage my user groups, I see a list of about 50 groups because all of the groups keep repeating in the list. Why is this?
[07:05] <Fritz> okay, do you know how to see what IP address you get when pinging id.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[07:05] <v507> Err http://id.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main libglitz1 0.5.6-1
[07:06] <v507>   Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[07:06] <v507> thats the message
[07:06] <nickrud> Arrick, purge removes any apache config files in /etc/apache2 . If there are any left, they were installed by other packages (like php)
[07:06] <v507> Err http://id.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main libglitz1 0.5.6-1
[07:06] <tonsofpcs> is there a way to force [whatever] to recheck and recalculate free space?
[07:06] <v507>   Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[07:06] <pteague> toplok> ah, & you have the ssh server running on your pc?  don't have a firewall blocking port 22?  hmm... not sure what else... you'll have to login via something other than root though
[07:06] <Arrick> grrrr
[07:06] <Sepheebear> katharos: i think you need a few more modules to get it to work with your card: modprobe dst && modprobe dvb_bt8xx
[07:07] <WGGMk> Anyone familiar with VMWare Server MUI???? Ive tried the vmware forums and #vmware, but im not satisfied with the answer I found in the forums.. Anyone able to give it a stab??
[07:07] <Arrick> nickrud: sites-enabled and everything are still the same
[07:07] <Sepheebear> katharos: take a look here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-153674.html
[07:07] <timfrost> toplok: have you installed openssh-server in both places?  You need it on all the PC's that you want to connect TO.
[07:07] <toplok> pteague, basically all I want is to copy a file from the remote lan pc to my machine. I have tried nautilus but fails to copy it
[07:07] <lwells> Cool, HI all
[07:07] <Fritz> v507 - first things first, have you refreshed your package list today?
[07:08] <JJHathoway> nickrud: it appears to be running after installing lynx, gives the default index page
[07:08] <Fritz> v507 - I am able to connect to that IP address without error
[07:08] <toplok> timfrost, yes, its already running on both places
[07:08] <byonix> can i still use feisty repositories if have upgraded my feisty to gutsy?
[07:08] <v507> so
[07:08] <nickrud> JJHathoway, then it's something in your network
[07:08] <toplok> I wonder if I have to open port 22 (?) in ubuntu (my pc). How to open it ?
[07:08] <v507> i ahve to refresh my package list??
[07:08] <v507> how??
[07:08] <timfrost> toplok: do you have the same user name on both PC's?
[07:08] <Fritz> v507 - try running a simple "apt-get update" command in the console
[07:08] <Fritz> you will need to use sudo or be root
[07:09] <toplok> no. in the remote machine I logged in as root
[07:09] <WGGMk> toplok: are you running a firewall?
[07:09] <toplok> no, it is a private lan
[07:09] <toplok> both pcs are there
[07:09] <neil_d> JJHathoway: /var/log/apache I think
[07:09] <JJHathoway> nickrud:  wait, maybe its not working, the page does not come up, i was wrong (doesnt come up with the lynx)
[07:09] <WGGMk> toplok: then you shouldnt have to "open" port 22...
[07:09] <v507> iĺl try
[07:09] <katharos> Sepheebear, oooh, this looks like it might be really useful... (reading...)
[07:09] <earthling> any good chatrooms for slackware?
[07:10] <korosora> slackware?
[07:10] <WGGMk> toplok: are you behind a route? or both PC's behind a router?? you would have to forward port 22 to the machine thats listening for ssh
[07:10] <korosora> O_o
[07:10] <Sepheebear> katharos: check it out and keep us posted but its all about loading the right modules
[07:10] <toplok> both pcs are behind the router
[07:10] <earthling> korosora: yes
[07:11] <toplok> I can login from my pc to the other one...
[07:11] <v507> Fritz,,
[07:11] <v507> it just hang in 99% waiting for header
[07:11] <WGGMk> toplok: what are you having an issue with then?
[07:12] <nickrud> JJHathoway, I'm no apache guru, I just drop files in /var/www and let the default setup run.
[07:12] <Fritz> v507, actually, it looks like I am not able to connect to the indonesian mirror
[07:12] <v507> me too
[07:12] <JJHathoway> nickrud: i got if finally
[07:12] <timfrost> toplok: on each PC, can you connect to port 22 locally with 'telnet localhost 22', then CTRL-] and 'quit' - getting the SSH version string?
[07:12] <toplok> the ping is not working from the remote pc to mine...
[07:12] <v507> so..
[07:12] <v507> what i have to do...??
[07:12] <v507> just waiting??
[07:12] <JJHathoway> thanks for your help, you to neil_d
[07:12] <Fritz> one moment
[07:12] <neil_d> JJHathoway: is it going ?
[07:12] <JJHathoway> yeah
[07:13] <WGGMk> toplok: so let me get this straight... you are using ssh from computer A to computer B and computer B cannnot ping computer A?
[07:13] <neil_d> JJHathoway: what was it ?
[07:13] <toplok> yes
[07:13] <JJHathoway> me being up too long today....typed 192.169 instead of 192.168
[07:13] <WGGMk> toplok: are you sure your pinging the correct IP?
[07:13] <tarelerulz> I have been watching the boot up of ubuntu 7.10 and see the mta takes a lot of time up . How would I make Ubuntu not use it ?
[07:14] <toplok> yes. it says "Host is down"
[07:14] <neil_d> JJHathoway: easy to do, good to see it going.
[07:14] <WGGMk> toplok: are you trying to ping your external or internal IP?
[07:14] <JJHathoway> so now that i have a dedicated server up and running, you guys have any good ideas for what to play around with?  any cool server apps?
[07:14] <v507> fritz,
[07:14] <toplok> internal IP
[07:14] <toplok> ping: sendto: Host is down
[07:15] <WGGMk> toplok: have you tried pinging computer A directly from computer B (in other words, at the workstation)
[07:15] <toplok> I do from my pc: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and get required for a password and login ok
[07:15] <toplok> WGGMk, yes, it works
[07:15] <neil_d> JJHathoway: ruby on rails is good to muck with.
[07:15] <toplok> once I am into the remote pc, then I can't type my pc
[07:15] <toplok> ping
[07:16] <Fritz> v507, I believe that this problem will only affect backports, but I'm not positive without some additional information that I'll ask for in a private message
[07:16] <JJHathoway> neil_d: am i better off trying to learn ruby, or php, or python for stuff
[07:16] <neil_d> JJHathoway: I have a little website that gathers info on the server, load, temperatures etc.
[07:16] <JJHathoway> neil_d:  and what exactly is ruby used for
[07:16] <WGGMk> toplok: thats very odd... anyone else have some insight on this????
[07:16] <v507> ok
[07:17] <timfrost> toplok: that error seems to suggest that your PC is blocking traffic.  Have you installed a firewall package (firestarter, etc) on your PC?
[07:17] <WGGMk> toplok: can you ping the external IP thru ssh on computer B?
[07:17] <neil_d> JJHathoway: I like python, and php, perl is good to know but tricky
[07:17] <Pengo-lx> Anyone know why the liveCD installer's partition editor can't see my software raid volume i setup with MDADM?
[07:17] <toplok> WGGMk, going to try it...
[07:17] <JJHathoway> neil_d: is ruby just another scripting language, it seems it is not as common
[07:18] <Fritz> v507 - did you get my private message?
[07:18] <v507> yes
[07:18] <v507> did u get mine
[07:18] <Fritz> no, I didn't
[07:18] <xenthro> I have a problem with qBittorrent. When I start it up (it worked before) it crashes with "Segmentation Fault." I made another system user and the app worked fine. I have purged qbittorrent and all its dependencies 4 times. How do I make it work?
[07:18] <timfrost> Pengo-lx: because there isn't room on the CD for everything.  Use the alternate install CD, which is supposed to support RAID
[07:18] <v507> i have to register first???
[07:18] <Pengo-lx> timfrost: can i get it to work via an apt-get install?
[07:19] <Fritz> no, that shouldn't require registration
[07:19] <neil_d> JJHathoway: yes! ruby and  ruby on rails (RoR) is a site template system.
[07:19] <WGGMk> toplok: also try logging into computer A with ssh from computer B and pinging computer A's internal IP
[07:19] <v507>  deb http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
[07:19] <v507>  deb-src http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
[07:19] <v507>  deb http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted
[07:19] <v507>  deb-src http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted
[07:19] <v507>  deb http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe
[07:19] <v507>  deb-src http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe
[07:19] <v507>  deb http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe
[07:19] <v507>  deb-src http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe
[07:19] <v507>  deb http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy multiverse
[07:19] <v507>  deb-src http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy multiverse
[07:19] <v507>  deb http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates multiverse
[07:19] <WGGMk> !pastebin v507
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin v507 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <v507>  deb-src http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates multiverse
[07:19] <v507>  # deb http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:19] <v507>  # deb-src http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:19] <WGGMk> !pastebin
[07:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:19] <warriorforgod> !pastebin | v507
[07:19] <ubotu> v507: please see above
[07:19] <v507> thats it
[07:19] <neil_d> JJHathoway: for websites it seems the PHP and Perl are the main languages.
[07:20] <vijayakumar> Cd
[07:20] <toplok> yes, going to do those tests, many thx for your help
[07:20] <Fritz> v507, I was trying to have you message that to me to avoid flooding the channel
[07:20] <timfrost> Pengo-lx: I don't know what package(s) would be needed
[07:20] <richd> anyone know how to list my installed fonts?
[07:20] <Fritz> in any case, it appears that more of those lines use the indonesian specific server than I thought
[07:20] <richd> not something like, arail
[07:21] <georg1> hi, I would like to ask for some support
[07:21] <richd> but long and full of * and -
[07:21] <v507> sorry
[07:21] <xenthro> Is there a way to completely purge a package and every single dependency and configuration file it/they have touched?
[07:21] <JJHathoway> neil_d:  yeah, ill probably spend my time with those and learning xml style sheets or whatever, my server is an old computer so probably wont be able to do much cool multimedia serving
[07:21] <neil_d> JJHathoway: there are a number of pre built for forums and blogs etc.
[07:21] <Madpilot> ubotu, ask | georg1
[07:21] <ubotu> georg1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:21] <Fritz> with id.archive.ubuntu.com unreachable, you could either switch to a different country's server or wait and hope they resolve the issue quickly
[07:21] <richd> xenakis: yes
[07:21] <Fritz> I'm sure they are actively trying to bring that server back
[07:21] <extracted> when ever i use open office to type an essay then take it some where to print it on a computer that is running windows  I always get tons of formatting errors :(
[07:22] <georg1> I am looking for a mail server tht I couls intall to ubuntu and download wmail s from gmail and other remote mail server
[07:22] <v507> how to switch it Fritz??
[07:22] <richd> xenthro: instead of choosing remove package, choose purge package
[07:22] <xenthro> richd i have done that
[07:22] <JJHathoway> so a note on security... are the default settings for LAMP pretty good
[07:22] <neil_d> JJHathoway: A webserver for just a couple of uses is very light on CPU usage, it will do most multi-media stuff.
[07:22] <webspiderus> can anyone help me install the drivers for nVidia 7900 GT? I've tried using the Restricted Drivers Manager route, I've tried downloading the drivers from nvidia's website, but either way, ubuntu only boots into low-graphics mode and I can only get a max resolution of 800x600
[07:22] <richd> and are other packages using some of the same files? it would be unfair to affect another package that doesn't depend on the first
[07:22] <WGGMk> georg1: i believe fetchmail would be something your looking for
[07:22] <Madpilot> JJHathoway, yes, but it depends what you're running.
[07:23] <xenthro> richd the old settings are still there... I just dont know which config file leftover
[07:23] <digitalsky> hello. anyone here got experience with mediatomb + ps3?
[07:23] <v507> how to switch to a different country server??
[07:23] <georg1> can I retrieve afterwoods the emails with outlook or evolution
[07:23] <JJHathoway> Madpilot: any more elaboration on that?
[07:23] <horizxon> do you always have to specify the device you want to allow users to be able to mount in the fstab? what if i wanted to enable all mounts of type smbfs?
[07:23] <richd> xenthro: ummm, reinstall? haha, that's not helpful i know...
[07:23] <Fritz> v507, choose "System -> Administration -> Software Sources"
[07:24] <Fritz> then choose a different option in the "Download From" box
[07:24] <WGGMk> georg1: that would be a server setting for gmail i believe.. you would have to have a function that would keep a copy on the server. i would be lying if i told you that its possible
[07:24] <Madpilot> JJHathoway, just that the more you're running, the more likely a vulnerability will crop up. A basic LAMP box is pretty solid, though.
[07:24] <richd> xenthro: sorry, but anything past purge is beyond my tech support for irc right now
[07:24] <georg1> gmail has a pop access so
[07:25] <Fritz> v507 - you are looking for this screen - http://www.fsckin.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/software-sources-select-other.png
[07:25] <initx> that's a server setting in gmail, you can choose to keep, delete, or archive
[07:25] <richd> I am off to bed
[07:25] <richd> BYE!
[07:25] <xenthro> richd bye
[07:25] <neil_d> JJHathoway: is your server available from the internet ?
[07:25] <JJHathoway> Madpilot: the more meaning apps/sites/etc or the longer i run
[07:25] <Led-Hed> anyone awake out there?
[07:25] <v507> iĺl try it
[07:25] <Madpilot> JJHathoway, more apps, generally
[07:25] <v507> thanks
[07:25] <imaginator> I'm trying to get a device driver to work.  is there a good kernel-related channel for debugging drivers (perhaps specifically for Ubuntu)?
[07:25] <JJHathoway> neil_d: im assuming by default LAMP is not?  i havent made any changes really
[07:26] <webspiderus> can anyone help me install the drivers for nVidia 7900 GT on ubuntu 7.10? I've tried using the Restricted Drivers Manager route, I've tried downloading the drivers from nvidia's website, but either way, ubuntu only boots into low-graphics mode and I can only get a max resolution of 800x600
[07:26] <georg1> so any pop3 access relay could work?
[07:26] <WGGMk> georg1: again, retrieving mail from another server is a process im not too familiar with, but i do know fetchmail can do retrieve the mail for you. if im not mistaken, i think postfix can as well
[07:26] <imaginator> webspiderus: FWIW I've had bad experiences with the restricted driver manager's driver choices.
[07:26] <Fritz> led-hed, is that a rhetorical question?
[07:26] <Led-Hed> I'm new to Ubuntu/Debian and have installed 7.10 Server.  I have set a few IPTABLE rules but they dont survive a reboot. What is the Ubuntu way to make them survive?
[07:26] <neil_d> JJHathoway: it probably isn't, assuming you are using DSL, you can check, I like the firewall test at www.grc.com called shields up.
[07:27] <imaginator> webspiderus: for instance with my machine Ubuntu was using a newer driver, instead of the legacy driver from Nvidia.
[07:27] <WGGMk> georg1: i would assume so, but as for keeping a message on the server to be able to retrieve it with multiple clients woudl be a gmail setting i believe
[07:27] <georg1> I was thinking for a opensource mail server, any ideas?
[07:27] <imaginator> webspiderus: the end result was that the display and 3D acceleration worked until I rebooted.  So I think you're probably better off just using nvidia's utility.
[07:27] <sketzski> wow lots of people out there tonight. i have a question about rhythmbox and ipods anyone out there have any pearls of wisdom for me>
[07:27] <WGGMk> georg1: to host your own mail server??? i use postfix, its relativly easy to manage with webmin
[07:28] <webspiderus> imaginator: well, neither one works, unfortunately. both end up giving me low-graphics mode
[07:28] <Led-Hed> georg1, Dovecot is easy and works well
[07:28] <imaginator> webspiderus: does xrandr list anything above 800x600?
[07:28] <georg1> WGGK thanks
[07:28] <webspiderus> imaginator: nope
[07:28] <WGGMk> georg1: sorry i couldnt give you more information
[07:28] <sketzski> does anyone know how to get playlists to sync with ipods in rhythmbox. i can drag songs over and they sync but not playlists
[07:28] <Led-Hed> WGGMk, postfix doesn't do POP3
[07:29] <WGGMk> Led-Hed: thanks for the info, georg1: did you catch that message???
[07:29] <Shpook> Ugh, just finished an upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy, and now I have no sound. lspci returns my audio device, but aplay -l returns "aplay: device_list:204: no soundcards found..."   anyone run into this?
[07:30] <AgentHeX> would anyone be able to recommend first-hand the addition of gentoo-proposed repositories?  i understand these are unreleased (i.e. beta), but is there a way to tell what packages are stable *enough*
[07:30] <AgentHeX> er...  first mistake.  s/gentoo/ubuntu
[07:30] <Onyx> is there a way i can increase the size of my main linux partition and shrink my windows partition without losing data?
[07:30] <imaginator> webspiderus: does your xorg.conf have an "800x600" mode listed, and does /var/log/Xorg.0.log have anything about the modes or loading that would indicate the driver isn't working?
[07:30] <Fritz> led-hed - what tool are you currently using to set IPtables rules?
[07:30] <Led-Hed> georg1, you will need both postfix & dovecot. Or any other combination but postfix and dovecot work well together
[07:30] <Led-Hed> Fritz, the command line?
[07:30] <krzulu> Onyx: Usually gparted can do that for you
[07:31] <Fritz> so you are using the iptables command directly?
[07:31] <Led-Hed> Fritz, yes
[07:31] <Onyx> krzulu: Should I be scared of 'usually'?
[07:31] <AgentHeX> Onyx: look at "gnome partition editor"
[07:31] <borlandc> hello
[07:31] <webspiderus> imaginator: my xorg.conf - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49938/ - it has no modes listed at all .. but no, Xorg.0.log doesn't have anything about the modes or loading that seems to indicate (at least to me) that the driver isn't working
[07:31] <Fritz> led-hed - that is what I use, I haven't experienced a problem
[07:31] <borlandc> hey guys
[07:31] <borlandc> im new here
[07:32] <borlandc> i mean new to ubuntu and IRC
[07:32] <Led-Hed> Fritz, so your ruleset survives a reboot?
[07:32] <georg1> i will try postfix & doveco and I will see, thanks!!!!:)
[07:32] <AgentHeX> borlandc: not to be mean, but, "and...?"
[07:32] <WGGMk> georg1: ok, someone just said postfix doesnt do POP3 btw
[07:32] <imaginator> webspiderus: what did you use to create your initial xorg.conf?
[07:33] <Fritz> led-hed, yes - it is possible that this behavior has changed, I set up my server with edgy
[07:33] <imaginator> webspiderus: oops nevermind I see that nvidia-xconfig generated it
[07:33] <AgentHeX> does anyone use the ubuntu-proposed repository for synaptic?
[07:34] <Led-Hed> Fritz, humm.  so I assume you have an Init script that does an iptables-save / iptables-restore.  would you mind pastbining me the init script?
[07:34] <Eyemean_> hi can anyone recommend a good player for downloaded flv files pls?
[07:34] <neil_d> JJHathoway: If your server isn't visible from the internet, and you trust whoever has local access, you can install anything you like on your server.  My sever does a lot more than just a webpage.
[07:34] <eHome> update manager is in the middle of downloading, what happens if i exit ubuntu? will the download keep and re-use last download ?
[07:34] <georg1> what about doveco
[07:34] <imaginator> webspiderus: I generated my xorg.conf for my nvidia card by using: X -configure ; sudo cp xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf  then I edited the xorg.conf to disable dri, enable glx, and change the driver from nv to nvidia
[07:34] <Led-Hed> georg1, Dovecot does IMAP & POP3
[07:35] <imaginator> webspiderus: that may actually require sudo X -configure  (I don't remember exactly)
[07:35] <georg1> ok, iwill try this also
[07:35] <borlandc> damn
[07:35] <webspiderus> imaginator: ok, thanks - I'll try that out
[07:35] <Fritz> led-hed - actually I must have created that script at the time and forgotten about it - it is owned by my user
[07:35] <Fritz> led-hed - I found a forum post with a newer script in it - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-19106.html
[07:35] <borlandc> join
[07:35] <Led-Hed> ok then I'm not the odd man out.  Thanks
[07:36] <borlandc> JOIN channel
[07:36] <borlandc> what kinda channel ?
[07:36] <imaginator> webspiderus: a little more context; the nv driver is what comes with X.org.  nvidia is the proprietary driver
[07:37] <gary4gar> i get this error when i try to install some thing via cron. the package gets downloaded but it isn't installed ;x, http://pastebin.ca/836168
[07:37] <deemt> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[07:37] <BehiiMehii> When I try to force a mount on my external HDD, I get "mount: only root can do that"
[07:37] <Fritz> led-hed - it is probably safer to use that file instead of mine, mine has no comments and I'm not entirely sure where it came from
[07:37] <Led-Hed> georg1, Postfix is an MTA (Mail Transfer Agent) SMTP.  Dovecot is a MDA (Mail Delivery Agent), and Thunderbird/Outlook are MUA (Mail User Agent)  You need all 3
[07:37] <WGGMk> If I enable the root account by setting a password for it... How can I disable it so that its like it was NEVER enabled (or password was never set)
[07:37] <BehiiMehii> How do I fix that?:/
[07:38] <Led-Hed> Fritz, thanks and noted
[07:38] <Fritz> behii - simply preceed your mount command with "sudo"
[07:38] <BehiiMehii> Ah, thank you
[07:38] <georg1> led-hed, ok thanks
[07:39] <Led-Hed> np
[07:39] <BehiiMehii> Installed this thing hours ago, and still don't know what I'm doing :/
[07:39] <gary4gar> i get this error when i try to install some thing via cron. the package gets downloaded but it isn't installed ;x, http://pastebin.ca/836168
[07:39] <Fritz> FYI - "sudo" is "Do as Superuser (root)"
[07:40]  * AgentHeX throws caution to the wind and allows ubuntu-proposed.
[07:40] <Fritz> gary - this error means that the package is asking questions during installation that cron can't answer
[07:41] <BehiiMehii> Fritz: when I try to open it, I get "Unable to mount the volume 'SimpleDrivePS'." Any idea?
[07:41] <regreth> Hay gusy!
[07:41] <SuperQ> regreth: ahoy!
[07:41] <gary4gar> Fritz, but i used apt-get -y install <package name>, so whats is it asking?
[07:41] <Fritz> gary - you can add the "y" flag to the apt-get install command to assume yes to all prompts, this isn't advisable
[07:42] <webspideru1> imaginator: what exactly did you mean by disable dri, enable glx? i.e. which part of xorg.conf would I change for that?
[07:42] <Fritz> gary - in that case, I'm not sure. . .
[07:42] <Fritz> Behii - is this a usb drive?
[07:42] <SuperQ> gary4gar: you would have to pre-seed answers with debconf
[07:42] <SuperQ> gary4gar: why are you doing install via cron anyway?
[07:43] <Fritz> my bad "y" is for assuming yes  just to the "confirm install" question
[07:43] <SuperQ> yea
[07:43] <SuperQ> debconf questions are separate
[07:43] <gary4gar> SuperQ, for scheduling
[07:43] <imaginator> webspideru1: under Section "Modules"
[07:44] <imaginator> err "Module"
[07:44] <SuperQ> gary4gar: I'm still confused
[07:44] <webspideru1> imaginator: it says Load "glx" and Load "dri", among others .. do I then just take out the Load "dri"?
[07:44] <Fritz> behii - also, what command exactly are you running to mount the drive?
[07:44] <SuperQ> gary4gar: intalling new packages is not something you normally cron
[07:44] <imaginator> webspideru1: just take out the Load "dri"
[07:44] <SuperQ> gary4gar: what is the problem you're trying to solve?
[07:44] <lonejack> Hi, yesterday has been happened me a strange thing. I tryed to force load skype on autoboot (crontab @reboot /usr/bin/skype), after reboot, the system send to gui an error(due to the skype load in that manner). I removed the crontab, but, after that moment, somethings are chenged on my desktop, for example: the exit icon on top left position, originally red, now is changed... How can I reset the desktop conf? Thank you
[07:45]  * syc_ brb, ngopi dulu
[07:45] <gary4gar> SuperQ, i wanted to schedule package installation & updating my UBuntu box for the night, as in night my ISP gives free downloads, which are otherwise chargeable.
[07:45] <Myrtti> lonejack: are you seriously launching gui apps like that from crontab?
[07:45] <SuperQ> gary4gar: ohhhh
[07:46] <JimmyDee> anyone know why eve-online would say I have no openGL support with ati and the restricted drivers?
[07:46] <SuperQ> gary4gar: apt-get -d -y intsall
[07:46] <SuperQ> gary4gar: that will prep the downloads
[07:46] <muaddib> Ok question. I just upgraded my machine with more memory to a total of 8 gig. Unfortantely the default generic kernel doesn't have High Mem support. I am contemplating either recompiling the kernel with the generic config and adding high mem or moving to the server kernel
[07:46] <v507> bye guys
[07:46] <SuperQ> gary4gar: then you can do the install from the apt cache in the day without downloading
[07:46] <muaddib> I would like to hear opnions of doing either 2 if their our any
[07:46]  * syc_ tiada yg seindah secangkir kopi dan suara distorsi gitar blues
[07:46] <JimmyDee> muaddib: so whats the question?
[07:46] <SuperQ> gary4gar: after apt-get -d is done, you can just remove the -d and do the normal install
[07:46] <gary4gar> Myrtti, yeah..i launch gui apps from Cron
[07:47] <imaginator> webspiderus: the long Nvidia README for their drivers that installs into /usr/share/doc/NVIDIX... has more information.
[07:47] <gary4gar> SuperQ, -d is for?
[07:47] <SuperQ> --download-only
[07:47] <muaddib> JimmyDee: what is the negative of doing either too
[07:47] <JimmyDee> muaddib: server kernel works well
[07:47] <yamabushi334> hi
[07:47] <gary4gar> SuperQ, but that means double work, can't i do this in one shot ?
[07:47] <SuperQ> gary4gar: it does everything apt-get would do, up to the actual install process
[07:47] <muaddib> JimmyDee: I heard that based on the default options of the server .config desktop performance can be somewhat slow when using the .generic kernel
[07:48] <SuperQ> gary4gar: it's not really double work
[07:48] <Myrtti> lonejack: how about system > preferences > sessions?
[07:48] <SuperQ> gary4gar: if you have a lot of servers, you can grab the debconf answers from a template machine
[07:48] <muaddib> JimmyDee: so from a performance standpoint their is no noticible difference
[07:48] <imaginator> do any of you notice that Ogle-0.9.2 doesn't build with Ubuntu's gcc-4.1, but does build with 3.3?  It seems to be a compiler bug where it thinks an assignment is a declaration.
[07:48] <yamabushi334> guys i have a couple questions once your done with this convo
[07:48] <muaddib> JimmyDee: Also does the server config support the commercial NVIDIA driver
[07:49] <SuperQ> gary4gar: apt-get upgrade rarely asks questions, but install does for some packages
[07:49] <gary4gar> SuperQ,yeah it is, first what package i have to install have to be set in crontab & then in morning i again have to remove them from crontab, install manually  :(
[07:49] <Fritz> tamabushi - the conversation never ends
[07:49] <Fritz> er, yamabushi
[07:50] <lonejack> Myrtti: I tryed. Now I understand that isn't possible. That's what happen to give admin permission to everybody. For your knowledge I thought many times before to put here my message....
[07:50] <yamabushi334> well done helping him
[07:50] <gary4gar> SuperQ, template machine, i got a standalone box here :S
[07:50] <SuperQ> gary4gar: heh, I don't consider that work :)
[07:50] <zhancan1> flash is not work.who can help me ?
[07:50] <SirFunk> hey, is there a tool in ubuntu for dumping ext filesystems? (sort of like xfsdump) ?
[07:50] <muaddib> JimmyDee still there?
[07:50] <Fritz> yamabushi, what is your question?
[07:50] <gary4gar> SuperQ, then you must be some Sysadmin in some MNC :p
[07:51] <krzulu_> Does anyony know any WLAN adapters (USB) that actually WORK well ? I would really like a list or something ?
[07:51] <SuperQ> gary4gar: actually, if you ran the install already
[07:51] <Fritz> zhancan1 - you should be prompted to install flash the first time you visit a flash site in firefox
[07:51] <SuperQ> gary4gar: the package files should be there unless you ran apt-get clean
[07:51] <SuperQ> gary4gar: you could just re-process the install right now
[07:51] <SuperQ> gary4gar: and find out what debconf questions it's asking
[07:52] <webspideru1> imaginator: hm ... I *think* I followed what you said, but I still seem to be going into low-graphics mode .. here's my current xorg.conf file - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49941/. does that look like what yours did?
[07:52] <SuperQ> gary4gar: seriously, it's asking questions for a reason
[07:52] <gary4gar> SuperQ, yeah i know that, they are stored in /var/apt/cache
[07:52] <yamabushi334> ok guys i have a problem
[07:52] <SuperQ> yep
[07:52] <NineTeen67Comet> Hello. Is there a way to change my mouse settings? Right now it is like X isn't picking up all my clicks and movements very quickly. If I click to re-size a window it seems to always drop it, same with moving a window, click to move and it drops it about 1/4" later .. help?
[07:52] <gary4gar> SuperQ, i did install manually, no questions asked :o
[07:52] <lonejack> Myrtti: now understand, was easy.
[07:52] <SuperQ> gary4gar: weird, what package?
[07:52] <imaginator> NineTeen67Comet: what kind of mouse is it?
[07:53] <gary4gar> SuperQ, nothing special some random packages, wait lemme pull out the list :)
[07:53]  * NineTeen67Comet and Sys/Pref/Mouse isn't doing it .. Logitech Wireless Lazer (MX5000 I think)
[07:53] <BehiiMehii> So anyone have a solution to my problem?
[07:53] <NineTeen67Comet> imaginator: ^
[07:54] <NineTeen67Comet> imaginator: I remember a few years ago there was a way to get more pulses per second in xorg.conf but I've totally forgotten how to do that.
[07:54] <gary4gar> SuperQ, it was DNSmasq, samba etc
[07:54] <imaginator> NineTeen67Comet: is your /etc/X11/xorg.conf using Option "Protocol" "auto" and Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"  ?
[07:54] <SuperQ> gary4gar: I wonder if aptitude could fake the input
[07:55] <NineTeen67Comet> imaginator: lemme peek ..
[07:55] <gary4gar> SuperQ, yeah i think aptitude should work, lemme dig up, thanks for pointer :)
[07:55] <imaginator> NineTeen67Comet: also, the way you probably did it years ago was with the xset utility.
[07:55] <SuperQ> gary4gar: yea, no problem
[07:55] <zhancan1> see many people talk,i hear my english is not good.so i decision to study english work hard.!!!!!
[07:55] <imaginator> NineTeen67Comet:  xset m is used to change the acceleration and threshold, but out of the box it shouldn't be needed :)
[07:55] <jube> hi all. are there any known problems with a linux (ubuntu) open-iscsi initiator and an opensolaris iscsi target (zfs shareiscsi=on)?
[07:56] <j_medic78> i was on here earlier and got disconnected. my problem was that my comp lost access to internet, and even after a clean reinstall of feisty, i cannot connect to wireless networks. i can see them, but can't connect. i dual boot w/ Vista, and wireless works fine. i have an intel pro wireless 3495 and broadcom 440x 10/100 controller
[07:56] <NineTeen67Comet> imaginator: No I edited xorg.conf manually (back in my Gentoo days) .. It wasn't auto but ImPS/2 and Device was /dev/input/mice ..
[07:57] <patrick_> im running 7.10 on my laptop and when i try to view videos in firefox, nothing comes up
[07:57] <patrick_> what should i do?
[07:57] <gary4gar> SuperQ, found something, still not what i was looking for but it would be quite help, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoWeeklyUpdateHowTo
[07:57] <imaginator> NineTeen67Comet: I'm not certain, but ImPS/2 may be the wrong protocol
[07:57] <NineTeen67Comet> imaginator: I changed it to auto .. maybe that'll work .. Dunno .. Then again maybe it is just this thing is a year old and has many many miles on it .. :-/
[07:57] <imaginator> "auto" may something to try
[07:58] <NineTeen67Comet> lemme restart gdm and see if the mouse changes . brb
[07:58] <WGGMk> If I enable the root account by setting a password for it... How can I disable it so that its like it was NEVER enabled (or password was never set)
[07:58] <Myrtti> lonejack: goodiegood
[07:58] <Myrtti> !root > WGGMk
[07:58] <SuperQ> gary4gar: hrm, i found something that might help
[07:59] <webspideru1> imaginator: sorry to bother you again, but did you see my message?
[07:59] <SuperQ> gary4gar: debconf should fall back to Noninteractive, not Teltype
[07:59] <SuperQ> gary4gar:
[07:59] <imaginator> webspideru1: no bother.  I didn't see your message.
[07:59] <SuperQ> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf/+bug/130519
[07:59] <Myrtti> WGGMk: I think the wiki page has instructions
[07:59] <webspideru1> imaginator: hm ... I *think* I followed what you said, but I still seem to be going into low-graphics mode .. here's my current xorg.conf file - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49941/. does that look like what yours did?
[07:59] <zhancan1> :-(
[07:59] <imaginator> I'll take a look webspideru1
[07:59] <WGGMk> Myrtti: on how to enable (change what i need) and disable the root account?
[08:00] <imaginator> webspiderus: what kind of monitor do you have?
[08:00] <webspiderus> dell fp2001
[08:00] <imaginator> ok what's the peak resolution on that?
[08:00] <webspiderus> imaginator: 1600x1200
[08:01] <gary4gar> SuperQ, so its a bug, damm i am having a bug holidays here, first my video drivers, then sound, then some bug in pidgin, then some ubiquity & now this :o, still thanks :)
[08:01] <lonejack> Myrtti: I don't know exactly what you mean but I agree...
[08:01] <SuperQ> gary4gar: apt-get install debconf-doc and read man 7 debconf
[08:01] <SuperQ> gary4gar: there is a section on Unattended Package Installation
[08:01] <imaginator> webspiderus: I'm looking for an xorg.conf option I used when I ran into a similar problem years ago
[08:01] <bbengs> WTF!!!
[08:01] <Myrtti> WGGMk: please tell me first why you need the root
[08:01] <bbengs> I thought that UBUNTU was supposed to be easy to use
[08:01] <bbengs> I need some help
[08:02] <WGGMk> Myrtti: i need to change host configuration files with VMWare Server MUI.. only root can do these changes
[08:02] <bbengs> with ati drivers, tuner cards adn the like
[08:02] <bbengs> can anybody help me out?
[08:02] <mpathy> bbengs: be polite.. whats your problem
[08:02] <gary4gar> !ask | bbengs,
[08:02] <ubotu> bbengs,: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:02] <lonejack> GREAT UBUNTU COMMUNITY - I'm happy to be here!!!!
[08:02] <bbengs> thanks
[08:02] <bbengs> okay
[08:02] <ploom> me too, lonejack
[08:02] <Myrtti> WGGMk: and sudo doesn't cut it?
[08:02] <SuperQ> gary4gar: woot!
[08:02] <ploom> ubuntu rules
[08:02] <SuperQ> gary4gar: got it: DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
[08:02] <SuperQ> gary4gar: put that in your cron script
[08:03] <WGGMk> Myrtti: there's no such thing as sudo... its a web based manager tool for VMWare Server... cant login with sudo
[08:03] <nuGzthk> hi i need help, i formatted my HD and when i try to install ubuntu i get errors that it block sb_bread please pm me or say thanks
[08:03] <bbengs> I have 7.10 up and running, i was having trouble getting a TV tuner to play on my PC.  Now my ATI driver for my All-in-wonder 9600 will not let me keep my display settings to 1024/768, it keeps changing to 800/600
[08:04] <Myrtti> WGGMk: I'm pretty sure there's a config file someplace
[08:04] <nuGzthk> hi i need help, i formatted my HD and when i try to install ubuntu i get errors that it block sb_bread please pm me or say thanks
[08:04] <imaginator> webspiderus: I seem to recall a DisablePreferredMode that I used years ago, but it doesn't seem to be listed
[08:04] <ompaul> nuGzthk, you say you formatted, what tool did you use to format it?
[08:04] <Myrtti> WGGMk: that you can modify to have it use some other user than root
[08:05] <gary4gar> SuperQ, thanks a TON!, i should put it where in crontab?, and how?
[08:05] <mpathy> Hi there.. I want to know something about the meta-packages, in the description there is noted " It is (also) used to help ensure proper upgrades, so it is recommended that it not be removed."
[08:05] <WGGMk> Myrtti: ive searched for it, ive asked in #vmware and looked on the forums.. the solution that everyone keeps driving at is enabling root.. i already know how to enable it... i just want to know how to disable it
[08:05] <ismael__> hello
[08:05] <mpathy>  - but I definitely don't need some of the packages that are in ubuntu-desktop for example. How does it help to ensure proper upgrades? I cant see any script inside the debs
[08:06] <bbengs> anybody?
[08:06] <ompaul> !pm | nuGzthk
[08:06] <ubotu> nuGzthk: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[08:06] <nuGzthk> sorry
[08:06] <gary4gar> bbengs, did you install ATI drivers?
[08:06] <imaginator> webspiderus:  try this under Section "Monitor"  :  Option "PreferredMode" "1280x1024"
[08:06] <Myrtti> WGGMk: the rootsudo wikipage should have the info
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> WGGMk: passwd -l or some such thing
[08:06] <SuperQ> gary4gar: something like this should work
[08:06] <WGGMk> Myrtti: im very hesitant in taking this action, but honestly if you know how to disable root login as if I never touched it.. id be pleased if you could help me. But id rather not go thru the motions of explaning it if its not getting me anywhere
[08:06] <bbengs> gary4gar:  yup, and reinstalled via the restrided driver manager
[08:06] <SuperQ> gary4gar: 0 0 * * * DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install foo
[08:07] <ompaul> nuGzthk, you say you formatted, what did you use to format it?
[08:07] <mpathy> bbengs: All I know is that the All-In-Wonder graphic cards sucks sometime, in stuff like tv, but that problem is very basic stuff..
[08:07] <WGGMk> Myrtti: alright, then disregard most of that last message.. thanks mate.. appreciate it
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> WGGMk: yeah, passwd -l root will do it
[08:07] <SuperQ> gary4gar: if it's a one-time job, you could use an "at" job instead of cron :)
[08:07] <WGGMk> tonyyarusso: will disable root account as if it was a fresh install?
[08:07] <Myrtti> WGGMk: ;-) sure
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> WGGMk: yup
[08:07] <bbengs> mpathy: great to hear that it is basic, where does a newbie start?
[08:07] <imaginator> webspiderus: and if that doesn't work add:  Modes "1024x768"  in Subsection "Display"
[08:08] <WGGMk> tonyyarusso: much apprecaited
[08:08] <gary4gar> SuperQ, yeah, thats a better idea i think
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> WGGMk: or any other account you need to lock out for a while :P
[08:08] <imaginator> webspiderus:  err rather 1280x1024 or whatever you prefer
[08:08] <NineTeen67Comet> imaginator: Dang, doesn't seem to have helped with the "auto" feature .. I'm bout to head to some people's for dinner so can't mess with it . but thanks for your time.
[08:08] <WGGMk> tonyyarusso: this wont lock accounts with "sudo" privileges as well will it?
[08:08] <abhi_>  can anyone tell me how to enable USB networking on Ubuntu?
[08:08] <gary4gar> bbengs, whats does "glxinfo |grep rendering " say
[08:08] <nuGzthk> ompaul do you mean what kind of file ? like fat and nstf?
[08:08] <imaginator> NineTeen67Comet: also checkout the man 4 mouse.  Maybe that will help
[08:09] <marsmissions> I'm looking to learn C++, anybody have any suggestions on where to start?
[08:09] <theQ_linux> Hi. I have win and linux on a machine. i formatted the linux partition. now grub is giving me an error and won't run. can i kill grub and let my win run without reinstalling linux first?
[08:09] <mpathy> bbengs: For a english person I would say wiki.ubuntu.com or help.ubuntu.com, for germans there is a nearly perfect ubuntuusers.de ;)
[08:09] <NineTeen67Comet> imaginator: oh yeah . never thought about the man pages for the mouse its self .. lol
[08:09] <ompaul> nuGzthk, no, how did you do this, was it with an install CD or something?
[08:09] <gary4gar> marsmissions, join ##c
[08:09] <bbengs> gary4gar:   Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:09] <bbengs> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:09] <bbengs> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:09] <bbengs> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[08:09] <bbengs> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:09] <bbengs> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:09] <bbengs> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:09] <bbengs> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> WGGMk: no - it sets the hash of the root user's password in /etc/shadow back to *, which is impossible to achieve with the algorithm used for such things, therefore making there not be any password that works for that account
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> WGGMk: your user has their own entry and is not affected
[08:10] <ompaul> bbengs, I will remove your mute in a few moments don't paste in the channel use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:10] <abhi_> can any one tell me how to set up USB networking on Ubuntu? i want to enable a TCP/IP link b/w my handheld and PC.
[08:10] <abhi_> i tried insmod usbnet but it didn't work
[08:11] <WGGMk> tonyyarusso: sorry for the redundant questions, but the password being * is how root is setup on a completely fresh install correct?
[08:11] <imaginator> abhi_: insmod is rather primitive.  You may have more luck with modprobe
[08:11] <gary4gar> bbengs, see always paste the output in pastebin, Please don't flood the channel ;)
[08:11] <ompaul> abhi_, you might like to try sudo modprobe usbnet
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> WGGMk: yep
[08:12] <abhi_> ompaul it didn't give me any out put?
[08:12] <Administrator_> ...
[08:12] <mpathy> nobody knows something about the right work of the metapackages when it comes to upgrades? I want to deinstall some apps like Evolution, Tomboy etc. but dont want to break with some kind of upgrading stuff if it depends on ubuntu-desktop for example!
[08:12] <WGGMk> tonyyarusso: very much appreciated. not that i dont trust ya, but im gonna head to the wiki page and do a bit of reading before i take this route. thanks for the reference Myrtti i appreciate it
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> WGGMk: absolutely :)
[08:12] <Myrtti> WGGMk: np, part of the "job"
[08:12] <theQ_linux> Hi. I have win and linux on a machine. i formatted the linux partition. now grub is giving me an error and won't run. can i kill grub and let my win run without reinstalling linux first?
[08:13] <nuGzthk> ompaul yes it was with a cd
[08:13] <WGGMk> Myrtti: maybe one day ill be versed enough in Linux/Ubuntu that it will be my.. ummm 'job'
[08:13] <mpathy> How about two international ubuntu support channels, one for beginner questions, another for advanced topics?
[08:13] <Nostahl> whats a good dvd player for me to get
[08:13] <ompaul> abhi_, I said like to try ;-)     if it gave out to you then I would be worried
[08:13] <Administrator_> theQ_linux, use windows install cd
[08:14] <j_medic78> i was on here earlier and got disconnected. my problem was that my comp lost access to internet, and even after a clean reinstall of feisty, i cannot connect to wireless networks. i can see them, but can't connect. i dual boot w/ Vista, and wireless works fine. i have an intel pro wireless 3495 and broadcom 440x 10/100 controller
[08:14] <Nostahl> i want a player that has what it needs to actualy play the dvd's
[08:14] <abhi_> ompaul: ok
[08:14] <Myrtti> mpathy: they all start from here anyway
[08:14] <CoasterMaster> mpathy, then we'd have all sorts of people go "Take it to the beginner's room" and things like that....
[08:14] <Myrtti> Nostahl: vlc
[08:14] <imaginator> j_medic78: does your dmesg indicate what's failing?
[08:15] <Administrator_> ...
[08:15] <mpathy> Myrtti: CoasterMaster: And the more advanced topics?
[08:15] <ompaul> nuGzthk, was that a ubuntu install cd?
[08:15] <horizxon> how do i run a bash script that prints out each command before doing them
[08:16] <imaginator> Nostahl: what do you mean?  are you looking for a DVD drive for your computer compatible with Ubuntu?
[08:16] <nuGzthk> yes it was with an install cd
[08:16] <webspideru1> imaginator: my internet connection seems to have died for a little bit .. did you say anything after you said you'll look for the xorg.conf option?
[08:16] <Creed> horizxon, try #bash
[08:16] <ompaul> horizxon, what you want to do is have "echo sometexthere which is the text you want printed out on the line" before every line to be executed
[08:16] <imaginator> webspideru1: yes.
[08:16] <CoasterMaster> mpathy, i suppose it really comes down to what are advanced topics....I mean I'm not the most advanced user of Ubuntu and I have tons of beginning questions, but I also know a few advanced things...it just seems to me that keeping everything in one place is a good idea
[08:17] <imaginator> webspiderus:  try this under Section "Monitor"  :  Option "PreferredMode" "1280x1024"
[08:17] <horizxon> is there a way to default it so that any command it executes is displayed first?
[08:17] <Creed> horizxon, only way i know of is to edit the script and copy each line and add "echo" before one of each copied line
[08:17] <ompaul> nuGzthk, at what point in the install did it give this error?
[08:17] <imaginator> webspideru1: you may also need to manually specify the: Mode "1280x1024" under Subsection "Display"
[08:17] <horizxon> ah i thought i remembered being able to do this with a command line but i couldnt find it anywhere in the man page
[08:18] <webspideru1> imaginator: ok, thanks - I'll try that
[08:18] <Administrator_> telnet ftp.ubuntu.org.cn
[08:19] <timfrost> horizxon: 'set +x' will enable printing of commands as they are about to be executed
[08:19] <r3n0c> hey, anybody use vlc before? and get it to stream media to the internet... not just somebody on your network?
[08:19] <horizxon> thanks
[08:19] <r3n0c> i wanted to try to use vlc as a poor man's apple tv
[08:19] <Creed> r3n0c, you will have to open the port which you are streaming content on on your firewall or port forward it on your router.
[08:20] <drkokoloko> hi everyone, where can I find good info about ARDOUR and Jack ? I have problems to get sound , though other applications do work... I am newbie to linux and I LOVE IT, I want to stay with it, but I need to be able to make sound recording  THANKS A LOT
[08:20] <r3n0c> Creed, i mean in the actual setup, what would i do with the settings
[08:20] <mylogic> how can I tell which usb slot my smartphone is plugged in to? (as far as /dev/ttyUSB0, /dev/ttyUSB1, etc)
[08:20] <nuGzthk> ompaul , umm in the begining of the install and how do i install it , what option do i pick from the cd? the oem install?
[08:20] <timfrost> horizxon: sorry try -x not +x
[08:20] <Myrtti> mylogic: dmesg
[08:21] <Myrtti> mylogic: or lsusb
[08:21] <horizxon> ah yes
[08:21] <r3n0c> Creed, would i just set the udp address to the public address? or do i have to setup an http?
[08:21] <Pancakes> How do you mount an external harddrive?
[08:21] <bruenig> !iso
[08:21] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[08:21] <imaginator> r3n0c: I haven't yet.  I was thinking about trying to stream to my nokia 770 (that runs Linux).
[08:21] <Johnson> hey does anyone that use finch know how to get the buddy list to show up/ send an im
[08:21] <Creed> r3n0c, leave the public address empty, that way it listens on all addresses and responds to all (even if youre behind a firewall/router)
[08:21] <mylogic> Myrtti: I tried those, but they don't really say which one...
[08:21] <Johnson> my buddy list has no buddies, to clarifiy
[08:21] <Myrtti> Pancakes: the same way you mount all of them
[08:21] <r3n0c> imaginator, ok, yea i was just trying to get it to work (for some reason i stoped getting wifi on my laptop) so i guess i'll just stop for now
[08:22] <Myrtti> mylogic: mine shows in dmesg
[08:22] <mylogic> Myrtti: lsusb gives me Bus 003 Device 008: ID 0bb4:0b51 High Tech Computer Corp.
[08:22] <r3n0c> imaginator i got it to work on the local network, but couldn't get it to connect from a different one
[08:23] <mylogic> Myrtti: well it kind of shows, but it says USB 4-2 ... how do I know if that's /dev/ttyusb0 or ttyusb1
[08:23] <mylogic> ?
[08:23] <Myrtti> mylogic: Nokia N95, /dev/ttyACM0
[08:23] <mpathy> CoasterMaster: do you know something about the meta-packages and their exact role in upgrading? because I mostly deinstall evolution and tomboy and because of that also automatically ubuntu-desktop, but as I said, there is written " It is also used to help ensure proper upgrades, so it is recommended that it not be removed."
[08:23] <bruenig> mpathy, just reinstall it before upgrade if it does indeed play that significant a role, meta-packages are dirty to begin with
[08:23] <CoasterMaster> mpathy, from what I've seen it's ok to remove it, but you should re-install it before upgrading to a new version of Ubuntu
[08:23] <ompaul> nuGzthk, you don't pick oem, and you could try to stick to one issue at a time,  the error you got to be of more use to you we would need the exact message, there are a couple of reasons, what kind of machine are you trying to install it on, are you trying to share it with another operating system
[08:24] <user3243> hello
[08:24] <Myrtti> !hi | user3243
[08:24] <ubotu> user3243: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:24] <bruenig> the ubuntu devs need to work on forking apt to work with package groups instead of meta-packages
[08:24] <bruenig> instead of nonsense like bulletproofx and so forth
[08:24] <imaginator> what is bulletproofx?
[08:25] <bruenig> not important
[08:25] <imaginator> bruenig: nevermind I found it on the wiki
[08:25] <ompaul> bruenig, if you feel this is a bug / or a feature you want you could write a spec or file a bug on launchpad.net and then participate in following it up
[08:25] <user3243> ubuntu is fun
[08:25] <user3243> it makes it easy to do things, i just wish it were a little faster
[08:25] <bruenig> my bugs get ignored
[08:26] <imaginator> user3243: what's slow for you with ubuntu?
[08:26] <alemones> Hi guys, I have a problem that after apparently installing all plugins real player, etc., all what is real player doesnt appear in Firefox. Also Youtube videos are slow and the tools of the video are overlapped and look ugly, plus video window size doesn't seem to match ... Any clue?
[08:26] <mpathy> CoasterMaster: hmm, but why? the exactly same on ubuntu-server, the metapackage includes "alsa*" packages, but who really needs installed alsa packages on his server at his housing provider?
[08:26] <user3243> to be fair, it's not really slow, just not as fast as windows xp
[08:26] <user3243> windows xp after a fresh install that is
[08:27] <zero-9376> anyone here used the userful desktop multiplier, i need help enabling users to shutdown the system
[08:27] <ompaul> bruenig, this is the support channel as you are aware, if your bugs are ignored and you have the option of forking ubuntu or working on them yourself to get to Free Software Heaven ;-)
[08:27] <CoasterMaster> mpathy, i'm not sure...I don't use the server edition
[08:27] <user3243> if theres any little tweaks i can apply i'd like that
[08:27] <bruenig> alemones, you probably install gnash not adobe flash, you don't need real player, mplayer and (I think) totem can handle rm so it is a total waste of time to worry with realplayer proprietary stuff
[08:27] <bruenig> installed*
[08:27] <imaginator> alemones: I don't have that problem, but perhaps it's because I'm installed the flash plugin from adobe
[08:27] <ompaul> user3243, so have you installed it?
[08:27] <Creed> user3243, you can always try out different flavors of ubuntu, or hell even different distros to see which is up to speed and you still like :) Xubuntu is fairly quick.
[08:27] <user3243> yes i have installed it
[08:27] <Johnson> !finch
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about finch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <ompaul> user3243, what spec is the machine, chip / disk / ram /video ram
[08:27] <user3243> i erased windows, dont need it anymore
[08:27] <user3243> hooray for me
[08:28] <mpathy> mpathy: ubuntu-desktop should also only include things everyone needs, like NetworkManager, but packages highly depending on personal taste like Evolution (and his bad IMAP support) shouldnt remove the meta
[08:28] <user3243> core 2 2.2ghz 800mhz fsb 4mbl2, 170gb fujitsu 7200rpm, 2gb 667mhz, 128mb 8400M gs
[08:28] <alemones> bruenig: do you mean I should install flash?
[08:28] <wers> the slab menu looks weird on ubuntu. any idea why?
[08:28] <user3243> ddr3 on that gpu
[08:28] <user3243> but nvclock doesnt support it, blah
[08:29] <ompaul> mpathy, launchpad.net is the place to file those issues - they may get won't fix attached but at least you will have addressed them
[08:29] <user3243> thats one thing ill miss, ocing my gpu
[08:29] <ompaul> !offtopic | user3243
[08:29] <ubotu> user3243: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:31] <j_medic78> >	imaginator: i'm still a noob really! all i've done is check the output of ifconfig and iwconfig. sorry for the late response, this satellite internet keeps kicking me off
[08:31] <darkblue_B> ugh- 4+ hours in install treadmill.. it all seems so clear after the dust settles.. Use the install CD, choose Safe Graphics Mode, forget fancy partitions at first, just make the boot and swap, and install from the hardware that its going to run off of, no matter how close the boxes seem.. ugh
[08:31] <msingh> can i update to the new tcl/tk?
[08:32] <HelloTher> Hello can someone help me please?
[08:32] <msingh> HelloTher, what's the problem
[08:32] <alemones> gulp..my help left the chat.. here I go again  ::  have a problem that after apparently installing all plugins real player, etc., all what is real player doesnt appear in Firefox. Also Youtube videos are slow and the tools of the video are overlapped and look ugly, plus video window size doesn't seem to match ... Any clue?
[08:32] <imaginator> j_medic78: open a terminal and try: dmesg | less     Some of that output may be about your wireless card driver.
[08:32] <HelloTher> I can't load into the desktop of Kubuntu
[08:32] <lwells> Is there power management in xubuntu??
[08:33] <user3211> guys
[08:33] <ompaul> !bootoptions | HelloTher
[08:33] <ubotu> HelloTher: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[08:33] <user3211> I got installation problem for warzone 2100, can anybody help me ?
[08:33] <j_medic78> imaginator: i'll try it. i'm gonna have to log off vista and reboot to do it
[08:33] <imaginator> j_medic78: ok, good luck :)
[08:33] <Jordan_U> alemones, You are using gnash instead of flash, that is what is causing your youtube problems
[08:34] <Johnson> hey does anyone in here now anything about finch? like how to log on. because for some reason by buddy list doesn't show up at all
[08:34] <alemones> Jordan_U: thanks, what should I do?
[08:34] <msingh> HellDragon, what desktop -- you mean X.orf?
[08:34] <HellDragon> fluxbox
[08:34] <msingh> sorry i meant that to HelloTher
[08:35] <HelloTher> It says no resume image, doing normal boot. Then It asks me for my login details. But I want to go into the actual desktop
[08:35] <Jordan_U> alemones, Open Applications -> Add / Remove, uncheck gnash and check flash ( make sure that it is showing all available applications at the top right )
[08:35] <imaginator> HelloTher: it sounds like gdm or X isn't working for some reason
[08:36] <isaacj87> hi all
[08:36] <imaginator> HelloTher: if you login then you might try startx and see what happens
[08:36] <HelloTher> Ok will try that thanks.
[08:36] <isaacj87> can I just use wine "c:\blah\blah\blah.exe" as the command for a launcher I want to create?
[08:36] <Lin1> hello ppl :)
[08:37] <Jordan_U> alemones, Or from the terminal: sudo apt-get remove mozilla-plugin-gnash && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:37] <isaacj87> or do I need to have a specific command?
[08:37] <Lin1> is there a way to make the surround system to work???
[08:38] <Jordan_U> isaacj87, Any command that works from a terminal will work from a launcher
[08:38] <imaginator> Jordan_U: does apt-get remove do the same thing as dpkg --remove pkgname?
[08:38] <ubuntu_> Hello! I'm using the Live CD right now, and I have a small question about installation...I have Windows already installed, and so I used GParted to create an ext3 partition, a swap partition, and a 10GB fat32 partition for backup stuff. If I let Ubuntu install the bootloader, will I still be able to get into Windows?
[08:39] <isaacj87> Jordan_U: ah. thanks. I was just curious if I need anything else besides: wine "c:\blah\blah.exe"
[08:40] <user3243> my experience is that ubuntu kills windows bootability
[08:40] <Jordan_U> imaginator, basically, but it also removes the dependencies of <package>
[08:40] <imaginator> ubuntu_: yes, you should be able to.  Assuming that the boatloader installer identifies the existing partitions, and creates entries.  Make sure you have backups though beforehand of all of your important Windows data.
[08:40] <user3243> but that may have changed
[08:40] <user3243> and windows kill ubuntu bootability, though of course theres double boot howto's on google
[08:41] <ubuntu_> imaginator: Yep, I do :) Let's assume the bootloader didn't...would there be a way to manually do it?
[08:41] <Jordan_U> user3243, It shouldn't ever do that, but it unfortunately sometimes does
[08:41] <imaginator> ubuntu_: yes by manually adding an entry for grub
[08:41] <alemones> Jordan_U: Thanks, I'm working on it.
[08:41] <SquiRel> d
[08:41] <SquiRel> When I type startx the screen goes black
[08:42] <imaginator> ubuntu_: once you have ubuntu installed you can run info grub to see how to use and edit the bootloader configuration.
[08:42] <SquiRel> But it worked fine before.
[08:43] <imaginator> SquiRel: are you using a restricted driver?
[08:43] <SquiRel> Then I restarted and it didn't load
[08:43] <imaginator> like perhaps the nvidia driver?
[08:43] <SquiRel> What's a restricted driver?
[08:43] <sebastian_> wattyour name
[08:43] <SquiRel> Yes I am
[08:43] <Jordan_U> imaginator, You people and your Texinfo manuals, man FTW
[08:43] <sebastian_> watt im
[08:43] <SquiRel> It prompted me to install it
[08:43] <ubuntu_> imaginator: Would there be a way to have Windows remain the "default" OS (so, if you turn on the computer and leave it sitting, it'll eventually load Windows?). I'm trying to get my husband to use Ubuntu, but I need to sneak it in there :)
[08:43] <vista_> hi all
[08:43] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_, Yes, there is
[08:44] <imaginator> SquiRel: oh, well that's a problem.  I ran into that before.  the restricted driver manager has a bug or 2
[08:44] <SquiRel> So is there a way to fix it?
[08:44] <user3211> ubuntu: you need to edit the grub config file
[08:45] <vista_> i m interested in installing ubuntu. i installed once but all my programs are with .exe and i culdnt install wine but when i did. the software werent installing coz they didnt knew where to be install
[08:45] <imaginator> SquiRel: at the grub menu boot with the rescue/safe option
[08:45] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_, Edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and put the lines that boot windows before the debian automagic kernels section ( that sounds more complicated than it is )
[08:45] <imaginator> SquiRel: then login and edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver back to nv from nvidia
[08:45] <imaginator> SquiRel: The problem is most likely that the restricted driver manager used a newer driver than your card supports.  At least it was that case with mine
[08:45] <ubuntu_> Hmm. I'll install it and then come back here if I need help :)
[08:46] <imaginator> SquiRel: I found that the newer driver would work, after initialized with the nv driver, but failed after a reboot, and would give me a black screen
[08:46] <SquiRel> Imaginator: so then can I not use those drivers
[08:46] <user3211> ubuntu_: go here for instruction for duel booting https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[08:47] <imaginator> SquiRel: I'm guessing you can't for now.  You can however install the official Nvidia driver (perhaps the older legacy version) it's what I use.
[08:47] <SquiRel> So how do I do that?
[08:47] <imaginator> SquiRel: see the nvidia site
[08:47] <imaginator> you can download their driver and installer
[08:47] <SquiRel> Ok thanks for your help
[08:47] <bryant> well
[08:48] <wers> anyone here using the slab menu?
[08:49] <wers> any idea why it looks weird on ubuntu? :D
[08:49] <Jordan_U> wers, screenshot?
[08:49] <siddhant> hi. is there any permanent solution to the titlebar gone in compiz problem? i've tried everything. bt once in every session, the titlebars disappear. :(
[08:50] <user3243> siddhant in terminal type emerald --replace
[08:50] <imaginator> user3243: what does that do?
[08:50] <user3243> if you dont have emerald start with sudo apt-get install emerald
[08:50] <siddhant> i enabled ths line in startup as well.
[08:50] <wers> Jordan_U, good idea. where can i upload it? is there something like pastebin for screenshots? :D
[08:51] <user3243> emerald --replace sets the window boarders to use emerald decorations
[08:51] <Jordan_U> wers, flickr, photobucket, imageshaq
[08:52] <siddhant> i did emerald --replace just now. as soon as i close the terminal, titlebars disappear again
[08:52] <user3243> yeah you cant do that, but you can make it an executable and set it to autostart
[08:52] <user3243> that way you wont see it, and you wont have to do it
[08:52] <Jordan_U> siddhant, nohup emerald --replace
[08:53] <v507> hello i need help again
[08:53] <siddhant> it does bring them back. but as soon as i close the terminal, they go again.
[08:53] <v507> i using gutsy
[08:53] <Jordan_U> siddhant, Also you probably want to put that in System -> Preferences -> Session ( you don't need the nohup for that but it doesn't hurt either )
[08:54] <v507> i´m using gutsy
[08:54] <v507> install compiz
[08:54] <Jordan_U> siddhant, Using "nohup emerald --replace" it should not go away when you close the terminal
[08:54] <siddhant> it did. :(
[08:54] <user3243> i'd tell him how to make an executable and put it in autostart, but im too lazy
[08:54] <v507> and then i dont know next after installing compiz
[08:54] <siddhant> hey now it didnt!
[08:55] <siddhant> thanks!
[08:55] <Jordan_U> siddhant, np
[08:55] <user3243> v507 in terminal type compiz --replace
[08:55] <wers> Jordan_U, http://xs.to/codes.php?f=Screenshot-1.png&h=xs322&d=07526
[08:55] <user3243> lol jordan he's going to have to do that every time he uses his computer, assuming he shuts it down
[08:55] <SquiRel> Imaginator: Hi again, there is no option for rescue/safe boot, and there is no directory /x11?
[08:55] <v507> it said xgl not present
[08:55] <wers> the slab menu there isn't like the one in suse
[08:55] <user3243> did you install your video card driver?
[08:56] <aunes> what is the social channel for #ubunto again?
[08:56] <kr00l> can someone help me install flashplayer9?
[08:56] <v507> i dont know
[08:56] <imaginator> SquiRel: /etc/X11 ?
[08:56] <v507> im using sis
[08:56] <SquiRel> ya directory does not exist
[08:56] <imaginator> locate xorg.conf?
[08:56] <v507> how to check it??
[08:56] <SquiRel> how do I find it?
[08:57] <v507> how to check my video card driver???
[08:57] <menllyos> firestart does not boot automatically, i see a [FAIL] message while booting, but as soon as im logged in and type iptables -nL i do see a lot of rules...
[08:57] <user3243> uname -a
[08:57] <Arv3n> Hello!
[08:58] <Arv3n> How do I mount a UDF volume?
[08:58] <BehiiMehii> SquiRel: I believe you go to Computer>File System
[08:58] <user3243> imaginator in terminal type sudo locate xorg.conf
[08:58] <user3243> it'll tell you where it is
[08:58] <imaginator> SquiRel: perhaps my information is outdated...  That seems strange though that they would move /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:58] <Jordan_U> wers, Been awhile since I've used Suse but that looks right. It is going to look different with different themes
[08:58] <imaginator> I'm using Feisty for what it's worth.
[08:58] <v507> then??
[08:58] <user3243> lol tell me what it says
[08:58] <SquiRel> I'm using the 7.10 one
[08:59] <Jordan_U> imaginator, The xorg.conf has not been moved
[08:59] <v507> sorry
[08:59] <wers> Jordan_U, the text are cut in the menu button
[08:59] <v507> give me a sec
[08:59] <clalfa> hello I got a problem trying to install my geforce 2 mx drivers
[08:59] <Arv3n> How do I mount a UDF volume?
[08:59] <cybergig> o.o;
[08:59] <v507> Linux 3botol 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:59] <v507> it said Linux 3botol 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:59] <clalfa> the nvidia installer says " cannot load nvidia kernel module"
[08:59] <Jordan_U> user3211, No need to use sudo with locate ( and you should avoid using sudo when you don't need it )
[08:59] <Arv3n> How do I mount a UDF volume?
[09:00] <imaginator> Jordan_U: thank you.  SquiRel: I'm not sure what is going on that would cause you to not have an /etc/X11/ or /etc/X11/xorg.conf then
[09:00] <v507> what us that mean??
[09:00] <v507> what is that mean??
[09:00] <user3243> hold on
[09:00] <v507> ok
[09:00] <SquiRel> I will try the locate thing then
[09:00] <Jordan_U> SquiRel, Do you have xorg installed?
[09:01] <user3243> i would tell you how to do this easily but i'd get blammed for telling you to do something thats not supported
[09:01] <imaginator> Arv3n: if the automounting isn't working then perhaps: mount -t udf /dev/yourdevice /path
[09:01] <user3243> oh well ill do it anyway, apt-get install envy
[09:01] <cybergig> Um... quick question on the xchat program... how do I get it to show the nicklist... mine loaded without the nicklist and this is the first time i've used xchat.
[09:01] <Arv3n> imaginator, sec.
[09:01] <user3243> then use envy to fix your driver issues
[09:01] <v507> sorry
[09:01] <Arv3n> I get this error: Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'UDF Volume'.
[09:02] <Arv3n> imaginator, I get this error: Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'UDF Volume'.
[09:02] <v507> i´m using gutsy
[09:02] <imaginator> invalid "mount option"  ?
[09:02] <v507> user3243
[09:02] <user3243> just do sudo apt-get install envy
[09:02] <Jordan_U> user3243, envy is not in the repos
[09:02] <wers> Jordan_U, the slab menu here doesn't look like http://en.opensuse.org/Image:103gnome-desktop.jpg
[09:02] <user3243> its not?!
[09:02] <Arv3n> imaginator, i just reinsert the cd and it pops up with that. :)
[09:02] <Arv3n> i burned it from windows explorer as a data disc, thats why.
[09:02] <imaginator> Arv3n: ok, sounds like a bug with something then
[09:03] <Arv3n> i didnt use nero or anything.
[09:03] <v507> is ¨sudo apt-get install envy¨ for me, user3243????
[09:03] <imaginator> Arv3n: you should still be able to mount it I would assume
[09:03] <user3243> well it was, but jordan thinks it wont work
[09:03] <Arv3n> imaginator, me too.
[09:03] <Arv3n> o_o
[09:03] <cybergig> nevermind...
[09:03] <imaginator> Arv3n: try it in a terminal
[09:03] <imaginator> xterm or whatever you have available
[09:03] <v507> user3243, what about me??
[09:04] <Arv3n> imaginator, another error.
[09:04] <Jordan_U> user3211, Envy has never been in the repositories
[09:04] <Arv3n> imaginator: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0,
[09:04] <Arv3n>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[09:04] <Arv3n>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[09:04] <Arv3n>        dmesg | tail  or so
[09:04] <Arv3n> whoops.
[09:04] <Arv3n> my bad.
[09:04] <user3243> hmm  must have a modded sources.list
[09:04] <user3243> i dont know v507
[09:04] <imaginator> Arv3n: it may be trying to mount it as iso9660
[09:04] <user3243> i cant help people like this im just too lazy
[09:04] <v507> after i use uname -a it said Linux 3botol 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:04] <user3243> i hope this isnt going to turn into one of those what goes around comes around things
[09:05] <Arv3n> imaginator: running dmesg | tail gives me this: [ 3531.667663] UDF-fs: No fileset found
[09:05] <Arv3n> [ 3531.762995] Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[09:05] <user3243> yeah that means you can install nvidia drivers
[09:05] <Jordan_U> wers, Are you just talking about how "computer" is cut off in your panel?
[09:05] <user3243> since its supported on that version
[09:05] <imaginator> Arv3n: oh that's unfortunate
[09:05] <wers> that and other things
[09:05] <Arv3n> =/
[09:05] <Arv3n> Nothing i can do?
[09:05] <user3243> can you find restricted driver manager?
[09:05] <wers> the "Computer" text is cut
[09:05] <user3243> 507
[09:05] <wers> there is no search function
[09:05] <Jordan_U> wers, I am looking at http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs322&d=07526&f=Screenshot-1.png and that is all I see
[09:05] <v507> yuo
[09:05] <v507> yup
[09:06] <user3243> do you have your video card driver set to enabled
[09:06] <wers> the places component is has weird locations
[09:06] <v507> how to??
[09:06] <Arv3n> imaginator, googling this seems to get a lot of seach results regarding ubuntu. imma check it out.
[09:06] <v507> i allready installed restricted driver
[09:06] <user3243> select the check box next to the thing that says accelerated whatever
[09:06] <user3243> oh, and it still says xgl not present, hmmm
[09:06] <v507> yes
[09:07] <user3243> your version comes with compiz fusion preinstalled
[09:07] <JohanSJA> help needed, now i have a dual boot os system, how can i reinstall my windows xp without it interrupt the grub boot loader so that i can still enter my ubuntu os? the last time i reinstall my xp, i can't enter my ubuntu
[09:07] <v507> so...
[09:07] <HelloThere> It says Permission Denied when I try to edit xorg.conf
[09:08] <user3243> hmm, hmm, try this http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=xgl+not+present&btnG=Search v507
[09:08] <user3243> theres bound to be something on there
[09:08] <user3243> hellothere open nautilus with sudo in terminal, in terminal type "sudo nautilus"
[09:08] <user3243> then navigate to the file and open it and edit it
[09:09] <HelloThere> ok cool what is nautilus?
[09:09] <Myrtti> user3243: nnnooo
[09:09] <Myrtti> HelloThere: nnoo
[09:09] <user3243> or just run the text editor with sudo, "sudo gedit"
[09:09] <juuruichki> .
[09:09] <juuruichki> xD
[09:09] <Myrtti> HelloThere, user3243: neverever run graphical apps from the terminal with sudo
[09:10] <perfector> can someone recommend a good lightweight caching nameserver for a single user??
[09:10] <HelloThere> Why
[09:10] <imaginator> HelloThere: sudo youreditor /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:10] <Myrtti> HelloThere, user3243: use "gksudo" instead
[09:10] <richardjc> hello
[09:10] <imaginator> oops I'm behind :)
[09:10] <richardjc> can somebody help me edit grub bootloader?
[09:10] <jmspeex> Anyone one has compiz in a usable state (not crashing several times a day)? If so, any hints on reproducing that?
[09:11] <richardjc> i tried to edit the menu.lst file but it says i don't have permission
[09:11] <HelloThere> Why?
[09:11] <user3243> richard it took me forever to get compiz the way i liked it
[09:11] <user3243> i read forum after forum
[09:11] <user3243> tweak after tweak applied
[09:11] <user3243> i found it runs like crap in kde (kubuntu)
[09:11] <user3243> gnome is faster and more reliable with compiz fusion running
[09:11] <richardjc> grub not compiz, grub!
[09:11] <siddhant> richardjc, are u root?
[09:11] <richardjc> i should be
[09:12] <richardjc> i just installed it and i'm the only user
[09:12] <user3243> lol, that was meant for jmspeex
[09:12] <siddhant> sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:12] <v507> user3243
[09:12] <Myrtti> /me backs away slowly
[09:12] <v507> user3243, i need to know my video card
[09:12] <v507> how??
[09:12] <rkvirani> Hi All
[09:12] <jmspeex> user3243: which one was meant for me?
[09:13] <Tazzo> #ubuntu-pl
[09:13] <Omega512> hello guys i wanna make my own ubuntu iso image that contains my prefered packages preintalled and my prefered themes how can do that if it is posible plz
[09:13] <antler> v507: lspci
[09:13] <rkvirani> Im not much for hacking ubuntu but if I wanted JUST gnome and no other apps, how would I do this off a default ubuntu install
[09:13] <rkvirani> Only interested in gnome
[09:13] <user3243> the stuff about compiz and how it works like crap in kde (for me)
[09:13] <rkvirani> not firefox, not openoffice, not anything else just vanilla gnome
[09:14] <richardjc> how do i exi vim?
[09:14] <richardjc> exit
[09:14] <imaginator> escape :q
[09:14] <siddhant> escape :wq
[09:14] <open-gl> hello, i am now running under live cd but i am running it as a server
[09:14] <user3243> rkvirani the only way is to install ubuntu default, and start removing crap when youre done
[09:15] <open-gl> what is the command when not running on cd
[09:15] <user3243> they dont make ubuntu-lite, though there is an ubuntu-lite its old and dead
[09:15] <ozubu> hello, can some1 refer me to "how to" install berkeley db on ubuntu ?
[09:15] <open-gl> when i was on cd i would type cd
[09:15] <imaginator> siddhant: I fear that if richardjc doesn't know how to quit vim, that writing the changes with wq may be dangerous :)
[09:15] <rkvirani> user3243: ouch
[09:15] <Freku> xubuntu is lighter
[09:15] <rkvirani> no meta packages I can remove eh?
[09:15] <richardjc> huh?
[09:15] <antler> imaginator: hahahahahaha
[09:15] <richardjc> i don't get it!
[09:15] <Omega512> hello guys i wanna make my own ubuntu iso image that contains my prefered packages preintalled and my prefered themes how can do that if it is posible plz
[09:15] <siddhant> imaginator: correct. :)
[09:15] <user3243> yeah xubuntu is lighter but its still got all kinds of applications (mainly the ones he listed he doesnt want)
[09:16] <rkvirani> user3243: what if I installed xubuntu then just put gnome ontop
[09:16] <rkvirani> is there a package for just pure gnome
[09:16] <user3243> then it would hardly be xubuntu anymore lol
[09:16] <user3243> xubuntu still has all those apps you said you dont want
[09:16] <richardjc> i still don't understand how to exit guys :(
[09:16] <user3243> its easy to remove stuff in synaptic though
[09:16] <rkvirani> bleh
[09:16] <webspiderus> just out of curiosity, does ubuntu 7.10 usually detect monitors properly?
[09:16] <rkvirani> user3243: I will give it a try Im most used to the command line
[09:16] <kr00l> can somone help me install flash player 9
[09:17] <rkvirani> user3243: thanks
[09:17] <Freku> linuxfromscratch.org    i guess
[09:17] <user3243> sorry for assuming otherwise
[09:17] <imaginator> richardjc: vim and vi is a very primitive editor.  It uses modes.
[09:17] <siddhant> richardjc: if u have finished editing, press escape, and the :wq (for writing the changes) and :q(for quitting without changes)
[09:17] <rkvirani> kr00l: did you download the zip file?
[09:17] <imaginator> richardjc: when you press escape it turns to the command interpretation mode
[09:17] <rkvirani> Press Alt +F3
[09:17] <rkvirani> then goto Terminal
[09:17] <antler> richardjc: if you're editing, then press Esc to exit that mode. then hit SHIFT and SEMIcolon
 i'm using this: http://www.howtoforge.com/native_linux_flash_player9_in_ubuntu
[09:17] <rkvirani> then cd to the directory you downloaded to and type tar -z               http://www.howtoforge.com/native_linux_flash_player9_in_ubuntu
[09:17] <imaginator> richardjc: if you've already pressed a bunch of keys thatn you'll likely need to use :q!  to quit without saving
[09:17] <kr00l> i'm stuck on the installation path
[09:18] <imaginator> thatn/then*
[09:18] <antler> richardjc: at the COLON, enter 'q' w/o the quotes
[09:18] <alemones> hi guys, I have a problem, that Real player content doesnt appear at all in Firefox. I already followed some website instructions with no success.. any clue?
[09:18] <rkvirani> ok
[09:18] <rkvirani> so whats the problem?
[09:18] <rkvirani> where are you stuck?
 I'm stuck on installation path
[09:18] <imaginator> alemones: are you using the helix player or mplayer to play real player content?
[09:19] <tarelerulz> I want to reinstall my system ,but just just want it to effect the system files and not movies and documents I have mad on it.  Is there away to do that?
 it says dir= /usr/lib/mozilla but when i type it in nothing happens
[09:19] <rkvirani> these are old instructions
[09:19] <rkvirani> just press enter
[09:19] <alemones> imaginator: How do I find that out?
[09:19] <suprgnious> question:  I installed apache and php successfully on the root web dir /var/www but when I try to access a virtual host php doesn't work and my browser wants to download a phtml file. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
 can't i need a path
[09:19] <antler> tarelerulz: um, don't format the directories with the stuff you want kept?
[09:19] <rkvirani> kr00l: it should install the plugins to ~/.mozilla I think which is where they go by default
[09:19] <imaginator> alemones: in firefox type: about plugins
[09:19] <imaginator> err about:plugins
[09:19] <aLeSD_> hi all
[09:19] <rkvirani> kr00l: it should find the path for you
[09:20] <richardjc> i just used NANO! :)
[09:20] <richardjc> VIM was too confusing
[09:20] <rkvirani> or just put it in your home directory where plugins will be searched for when you load FF
[09:20] <richardjc> thanks guys
[09:20] <imaginator> richardjc: good choice
[09:20] <aLeSD_> how can I install ubuntu from text mode ? VESA driver can't found an usable conf to start x
[09:20] <rkvirani> vi is the shiz
[09:20] <antler> nano.......*gulp*
[09:20] <newkaka> hello everyone
[09:20] <kr00l> rkvirani> nothing
[09:20] <rkvirani> ? What do you mean nothing
[09:20] <rkvirani> is it still asking you?
[09:20] <tarelerulz> Antler , that is kind of hard I have stuff in /home/username/video , documents and so on . It all is not on some different partition .
[09:20] <kr00l> rkvirani> you know of any way to get flashplayer 9 installed
[09:21] <alemones> imaginator: Helix is the one
[09:21] <rkvirani> kr00l: the installation should be actually installable from the browser
[09:21] <rkvirani> ooh or do you have the old 8 installed right now?
[09:21] <imaginator> aLeSD_: what kind of machine are you using that doesn't have a usable VESA driver?
[09:21] <perfector> pdnsd or lwres ???? suggestions pls
[09:21] <kr00l> rkvirani> i have none installed now
[09:21] <Myrtti> !flash | kr00l
[09:21] <ubotu> kr00l: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:21] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[09:21] <kr00l> rkvirani> i want to watch youtube stuff but i can't
[09:21] <aLeSD_> imaginator: ati unknown device 7942
[09:21] <webspiderus> just out of curiosity, does ubuntu 7.10 usually detect monitors properly? I've got a dell FP 2001 which is in ubuntu's list of monitors, but it doesn't autodetect as that. If i select the dell fp 2001 as the monitor, and restart X, however, then i get a vertically scrambled image..
[09:22] <antler> tarelerulz: reinstalling the system doesn't mean that you must wipe out /home
[09:22] <imaginator> aLeSD_: hmm.  So you're just trying to install the system, or have you already installed?
[09:22] <aLeSD_> imaginator: tringh
[09:22] <antler> oh
[09:22] <aLeSD_> imaginator: xorg says : screen found but no usable configurtion
[09:22] <Johns> hi
[09:22] <Myrtti> antler: if it's not on separate partition
[09:22] <antler> tarelerulz: you're /home and / are in the same partition
[09:23] <rkvirani> so go to youtube
[09:23] <antler> ah
[09:23] <Arv3n> Hello.
[09:23] <newkaka> hello
[09:23] <rkvirani> and then mozilla will tell you that you need the plugin
[09:23] <Arv3n> Is there some where I can create an Ubuntu Repository for free?
[09:23] <rkvirani> then use mozilla to install it
[09:23] <imaginator> aLeSD_: I've never installed Ubuntu from text mode, so unfortunately I'm not familiar with that.  If the VESA driver and configuration aren't working that indicates something that may bring you trouble in the future.
[09:23] <richardjc> hi again, where can i find the partition manager?
[09:23] <rkvirani> Arv3n: yes, your own machine
[09:23] <newkaka> they are talling about ff
[09:23] <Arv3n> rkwirani, I don't plan on keeping my machine up 24/7.
[09:23] <rkvirani> Arv3n: hehe :D
[09:23] <Arv3n> rkwirani, it can't even handle that.
[09:24] <rkvirani> Arv3n: sorry then, no idea :D
[09:24] <siddhant> is there an "rpm -q " equivalent in ubuntu?
[09:24] <Arv3n> rkwirani, I'm trying to create my own distro, but not enough money for a repo.
[09:24] <kr00l> does anyone know how to get youtube videos working with firefox?
[09:24] <rkvirani> Arv3n: I do recall some peoples giving out space
[09:24] <Arv3n> kr00l, install Flash
[09:24] <rkvirani> kr00l: me :D
[09:24] <kr00l> how?
[09:24] <richardjc> help guys, where can i find the partition manager on ubuntu?
[09:24] <rkvirani> Arv3n: he is trying
[09:24] <Arv3n> rkwirani, who?
[09:25] <Arv3n> It's not like I can't give money or anything.
[09:25] <rkvirani> Arv3n: kr00l is trying to install flash
[09:25] <Arv3n> It's just that I can't right now, and I don't get that much, anyway.
[09:25] <newkaka> you can try alien
[09:25] <rkvirani> Arv3n: Im trying to get him to do the browser way
[09:25] <Arv3n> My family is doing bad financially atm.
[09:25] <imaginator> webspiderus: Ubuntu doesn't really AFAIK write code to detect monitors.  I think that's mostly X.org and their usage/misusage? of DDC (a VESA protocol)
[09:25] <tarelerulz> antler , my / and /home are in the same partition
[09:25] <rkvirani> hey kr00l try 'apt-get install swf-player'
[09:25] <Arv3n> rkwirani, search google for "flash about"
[09:25] <kr00l> rkvirain i installed the non-free plugin and it doesn't do anyting
[09:25] <Arv3n> rkwirani, click on the first link
[09:25] <alemones> imaginator: Helix is the one I have in about:plugins
[09:25] <Arv3n> rkwirani, then install it
[09:25] <rkvirani> Arv3n: there are some places that give space for stuff like that but Im not sure where
[09:25] <richardjc> anyone?
[09:26] <Arv3n> Is there some where I can create an Ubuntu Repository for free?
[09:26] <Omega512> Arv3n: i wanna make my own ubuntu iso image that contains my prefered packages preintalled and my prefered themes how can do that if it is posible plz
[09:26] <rkvirani> kr00l: DID YOU RESTART FIREFOX?
[09:26] <Arv3n> Omega512, search google for Reconstructor
[09:26] <imaginator> alemones: you may find that removing helix player with: sudo synaptic  and installing mplayer and its plugins works better.
[09:26] <kr00l> rkvirain yes
[09:26] <rkvirani> ouch sorry for caps
[09:26] <Arv3n> Omega512, http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
[09:26] <tarelerulz> There must be a way to over write the os files them self with out formatting or something? I am not dumb for thinking so
[09:26] <rkvirani> kr00l: all your windows
[09:26] <webspiderus> imaginator: there was a detect button, so I figured there would be some detection .. my fault, I suppose :P Is there a way to fix vertical scrambling though? Because I get the login window in high resolution, and then my desktop just appears scrambled, whereas in my 'stable' configuration, everything's just at a low resolution
[09:26] <rkvirani> you have to close _all_ your windows
[09:26] <Arv3n> Is there some where I can create an Ubuntu Repository for free?
[09:26] <imaginator> alemones: another option is the proprietary real player based on helix player.
[09:26] <Myrtti> rkvirani: the flash installation is broken
[09:26] <antler> tarelerulz: you can, but i wouldn't do that
[09:27] <rkvirani> Myrtti: which the FF one or the ubuntu one?
[09:27] <rkvirani> Myrtti: I dont understand why FF is not prompting him to install it
[09:27] <antler> tarelerulz: just don't format / before the actual install
[09:27] <rkvirani> bbias
[09:27] <Myrtti> the ubuntu one is used by the ff one
[09:27] <Omega512> Arv3n thnx
 yes i did but i still can't get it to work
[09:27] <Myrtti> !flashissues
[09:27] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
 how do i get swf-player
[09:28] <imaginator> webspiderus: it's unfortunate that X is such a problem, especially with regard to configuration.  After using Linux for over 10 years, OpenBSD, NetBSD, and now Ubuntu, I find that X is the worst of them all to get working right.
[09:28] <alemones> imaginator: thx will try and let you know, thx!
[09:28] <Arv3n> Is there some where I can create an Ubuntu Repository for free?
[09:28] <imaginator> alemones: you're welcome
[09:28] <Myrtti> !repeat |  Arv3n
[09:28] <ubotu> Arv3n: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:29] <tarelerulz> Antler , when it finds a ext3 partition just tell it to use it and not to format it  and it should just over write the os files ? is that what I am understanding
[09:29]  * syc_ mohon pamid
[09:29] <Arv3n> Would anyone be kind enough to host my Ubuntu repo?
[09:29]  * syc_ wassalamualaikum wr wb
[09:29] <Arv3n> I can pay.
[09:29] <webspiderus> imaginator: yeah, it's a shame .. when I tried ubuntu a few years back, I didn't have such problems. So is vertical scrambling usually caused by some singular setting, or is it just a consequence of X being generally messed up?
[09:29] <Myrtti> !english | syc_
[09:29] <ubotu> syc_: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[09:29] <wers> i just installed usp ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222546&highlight=usp ). how do I add it to my panel?
[09:29] <antler> tarelerulz: you understand correctly. i don't about others, but i wouldn't do that.
[09:29] <fotoflo> how do i log all logins and logouts on my ubuntu server?
[09:30] <Myrtti> !id | syc_
[09:30] <ubotu> syc_: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[09:30] <imaginator> webspiderus: it's a combination of problems.  X11 is very complex, and bends over backwards to support a vast amount of hardware and different configurations.  The video card makers are also very resistant to giving out proprietary drivers in general, though I hear that ATI is doing better now.
[09:30] <antler> i don't remember whether ubuntu has a resize partition utility, tarelerulz
[09:30] <imaginator> So the nv driver that ships with X.org is partly maintained and updated by the X.org folk, and Nvidia
[09:31] <imaginator> But the proprietary nvidia driver that Nvidia distributes, isn't maintained by X.org, and is subject to potential problems when X.org changes.
[09:31] <tarelerulz> I think it does  , I used it for making space out of my ntfs so I don't see why it would not do that for ext3
[09:31] <antler> if it does, then resize, create, move, reinstall os on old partition
[09:31] <fotoflo> how do i log all logins and logouts on my ubuntu server?
[09:31] <antler> *move the stuff you want to keep over
[09:32] <antler> *to the newly created ext3 partition
[09:32] <webspiderus> imaginator: ah, I see. thanks for your help :D hopefully I can figure this out someday
[09:32] <newkaka> cfisk is good
[09:32] <antler> tarelerulz: when it comes to partitioning, take your time and backup your stuff first.
[09:32] <Arv3n> Would anyone be kind enough to host my Ubuntu repo?
[09:32] <antler> :-)
[09:33] <Toma-> I cant get ' and " to work in virtualbox. the guest OS is gutsy and ive tried remapping the keys a few times. any tips?
[09:33] <|DuReX|> I downloaded Alternate cd for Ubuntu, now i can't find where to select in the install to use dmraid :(
[09:33] <pengo__> !compiz
[09:33] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[09:33] <tarelerulz> Antler , i thought you might say that.  I don't see why you just can't over right just the os files .  I have had the windows mess up and I just over wrote the os files .  That is handy feature .
[09:34] <NooBBoon> I was trying to re-size my partitions and I seem to have lost my /home/myusername directory. Am I totally borked?
[09:34] <antler> tarelerulz: i've never done that, always preferred fresh installs.
[09:34] <tarelerulz> I may do just that myself.
[09:34] <fotoflo> urgent question: how do i log all logins and logouts on my ubuntu server? google is giving me wierd results because the word log and login are so similar
[09:35] <tarelerulz> I have an dell laptop that  is having some problems.  Samba is not working right and it did before and I did not change anything
[09:35] <antler> tarelerulz: but you might consider giving /home its own partition to avoid such worries in the future
[09:35] <tarelerulz> I  just maybe I could over write the os files and start over ,but keep all my media
[09:36] <tarelerulz> I guess that is good reason to do such. I have all wonder that before when I read about. Why would someone wont to do that and now I know why
[09:36] <johan12> hello
[09:37] <antler> tarelerulz: i never keep anything important in the same partition that contains system files.
[09:37] <Arv3n> Would anyone be kind enough to host my Ubuntu repo?
[09:37] <Arv3n> This sucks. =/
[09:37] <antler> Arv3n: i don't think anyone is kind enough.
[09:37] <antler> :-(
[09:37] <Arv3n> >.>
[09:37] <tarelerulz> I would like to say Ubuntu 7.10 makes great job. I really like videos , pictures and other media folders that it makes for you. It is great.  I am not very organized . It help
[09:37] <newkaka> anter
[09:37] <newkaka> maybe I can help you
[09:38] <pengo__> hey how do i enable compiz, whats the easiest way isthere some check box somewhere ?
[09:38] <elninja> I haven't researched hardware in awhile, but now I'm looking to build a new machine. Any tips on good forums/websites for info on new hardware, pc builds, benchmarks, etc?
[09:38] <aLeSD_> mmm .... but intel core duo is an 64 bits processor ?
[09:39] <Myrtti> elninja: ubuntu has hardware compatibilty db
[09:39] <fadey> Hi. Does anyone knows where the default gusty kernel .deb package (the one that is on cd) could be found?
[09:39] <cew_suka> hai
[09:39] <tarelerulz> Antler, in the future I may keep /home out side the rest of the system just for that reason . Media is one thing I like to keep up on . sometimes you can't remember where you got that song or movie.
[09:39] <bluefoxx> so i just got my gutsy CDs, and booted from it, but to no avail, still not detecting the SATA drive period
[09:40] <aLeSD_> mmm .... but intel core duo is an 64 bits processor ? cause I'm starting the 64 bits version of ubuntu live cd ... and it works
[09:40] <bluefoxx> so im thinking i get a SATA>USB adaptor, will that work?
[09:40] <KNRO> Any packagers around here?
[09:40] <bluefoxx> will bug on forums in morning, too late here in my town
[09:40] <Arv3n> KNRO, I could try.
[09:41] <Arv3n> KNRO, what are you trying to package?
[09:41] <antler> his whites, an iron, and two pairs of shoes.
[09:41] <KNRO> Arv3n: I already have a package for other distributions, but I'm having problems compiling the .dsc file required for xUbuntu systems.
[09:41] <elninja> Rather than having my home folder on another partition, I like to just create symbolic links in my home folder to another partition for things like Videos, Music, Documents, Desktop, etc. That way I can dual-boot another setup, and the settings and configs don't overlap.
[09:42] <Arv3n> KNRO, i have no idea, sorry.
[09:42] <imaginator> aLeSD_: yes, AFAIK that processor is compatible with the AMD x86-64 instruction set, although Intel calls it something else.
[09:42] <rkvirani> Arv3n: did Kr00l get flash installed?
[09:42] <rkvirani> What is broken about it?
[09:42] <Toma-> I cant get ' and " to work in virtualbox. the guest OS is gutsy and ive tried remapping the keys a few times. any tips?
[09:42] <Arv3n> rkvirani, i have no idea.
[09:42] <rkvirani> he just kind of buzzed off eh
[09:42] <sleepinsam> they changed the tar.gz file at adobe and the installler is borked
[09:43] <KNRO> Arv3n: I have a .tar.gz file, just need to have it packaged for xUbuntu systems.
[09:43] <antler> elninja: yeah, i like that. i personally don't keep anything important in /home
[09:43] <aLeSD_> imaginator: but it's a 64bits arch ?
[09:43] <menllyos> aLeSD_: im using the 64b ubuntu right now on a core2duo so its works just fine :)
[09:43] <aLeSD_> wow
[09:43] <imaginator> aLeSD_: yes, 64-bit pointers.
[09:43] <Arv3n> KNRO, binary or source?
[09:43] <aLeSD_> wowowow... my pc rules
[09:43] <imaginator> 48-bit address space, which you'd have a lot of difficulty filling I suspect.
[09:43] <Arv3n> KNRO, if it's source.. just do a sudo checkinstall
[09:44] <Arv3n> KNRO, google it.
[09:44] <sleepinsam> menllyos: can you get flash on that?
[09:44] <KNRO> Arv3n: I did, and I made some progress, but I got stuck in formatting the source file with the debian subdirectory in order to install properly. This is why I'm asking for experienced help.
[09:45] <menllyos> not really, i tried to install it but it doesnt work... but since im just using linux for less then a week its prolly my mistake :P
[09:45] <elninja> antler, yeah it keeps it much cleaner and easier to save the important stuff.
[09:45] <alemones> imaginator: thx, I'm working on it. Still another problem I have: When I boot Ubuntu 7.10, the resolution is 1280x800 for about 0.2 seconds, then switches to not-native 1024x768. How do I fix this?
[09:45] <Arv3n> KNRO, I don't know, I'm not very experienced in that area.
[09:46] <imaginator> alemones: Ubuntu comes with a tool for changing the display size.  I forget where it is, because I don't use Gnome.
[09:46] <imaginator> it's in one of the menus.  if it doesn't work then try xrandr, and if that doesn't work ask a question
[09:46] <sankat> you can try one thing..
[09:47] <sankat> open xterm
[09:47] <sankat> sudo -s
[09:47] <sankat> and then ]
[09:47] <sankat> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:47] <sankat> sorry typo
[09:47] <sankat> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:47] <sankat> this would probably fix the problem.
[09:47] <sankat> make sure u restart the xserver
[09:49] <logd> hi i've installed wifi cards on two pcs configure ips and created a wlan or better says it looks like... mean the client pc connects to the server successfully signal is good and tx/rx bytes increases wheter i do something but there's no connectivity mean even ping server client from server and viceversa fails
[09:50] <Leo1989> HI mates. Is there any Ubuntu tool for watching TV chanells through Internet?
[09:50] <Arv3n> Hello.
[09:50] <wers> can you suggest any "Menu Bar" (the default ubuntu menu) alternative? I am using a single panel and I want to conserve panel space. Slab menu for ubuntu, on the other hand, doesn't integrate well with the desktop
[09:50] <NooBBoon> I mangled up something while repartitioning my drives. My /home directory is empty now, but I found the old /home/username at /media/sda5.  What do I need to do to fix? Should I edit /etc/fstab or should i try the partitioning part of the LiveCD again?
[09:50] <Arv3n> Does anyone have expericen building a distro/
[09:50] <sankat> @wers...you can try ksmoothdock
[09:50] <sleepinsam> ximian, but its for chimpanzees
[09:51] <user3243> avant window manager is the prettiest dock of all
[09:51] <tarelerulz> What is that partition that  both dell and hp have for  laptop before windows on the disk? I think it recover ,but I am not sure.  It is something that Dell or hp would use if you To help with hardware problems
[09:51] <imaginator> did you configure the routes for your network?
[09:51] <wers> sankat, I do not want a dock. I just want a menu bar applet alternative for the gnome panel
[09:51] <imaginator> logd: that was directed at you
[09:51] <sankat> ha sorry..my bad.
[09:51] <logd> no and i guess that's the problem
[09:52] <imaginator> logd: try: route show
[09:52] <imaginator> most likely you'll want to make your router be a gateway.
[09:52] <NooBBoon> wers: how about gimmie? might be worth a look
[09:52] <wers> hmmm.. interesting NooBBoon
[09:53] <NooBBoon> i use it on my panel, but it has a stand alone too i think
[09:53] <wers> imma look at it. i tried it before but it seemed very confusing
[09:53] <logd> i'm not using router nor access point i need to make the client connects to the server via wifi then access th internet htrouggh
[09:53] <logd> btw route show says show isn't a valid param
[09:53] <|DuReX|> is there no option included in the Alternate cd to load dmraid @ setup ? :(
[09:53] <morran> has anyone here managed winecfg/wine not to crash with a ICE1724 based soundcard?
[09:54] <imaginator> logd: oops.  my mistake.  just run route without arguments
[09:54] <logd> whereas route without arguments has three lines but none about wlan0 which is the wifi conn
[09:54] <morran> feels like i've read the whole internet without any luck :(
[09:54] <imaginator> it's been a while since I've configured my wireless, but even then I had to set a default gateway
[09:55] <alemones> imaginator: I tried it, but what I need is that when I start Ubuntu the resolution stay 1280x800, not go down... xrandr helps fix this?
[09:55] <morran> so .any. help would be appreciated
[09:55] <logd> well i can route add default gw  and see
[09:55] <imaginator> alemones: the xrandr program may.  It lists the resolutions and you can set a resolution with xrandr -s
[09:55] <logd> but it doesn't goes
[09:56] <Leo1989> Guys is there Ubuntu tool for watching TV chanells throguh Internet?
[09:56]  * morran goes back to his dark corner... :(
[09:56] <sleepinsam> try mythv
[09:56] <sleepinsam> err mythtv
[09:57] <Leo1989> thx
[09:57] <julien73> hello, is anyone here familiar with the xfce desktop?
[09:57] <AstronautBB> I have a laptop with 256mb will ubuntu run fine?
[09:57] <imaginator> morran: I've had trouble with Wine too.  For me it faults with the Nvidia GL library.  Over the years some things have worked in Wine, only to break later on for me.  I just tend to not use it anymore.
[09:57] <iNeo> AstronautBB: yes
[09:57] <sleepinsam> ummmm might try xubuntu
[09:58] <morran> imaginator: :( wine just "hard crashes" for me... can't even run winecfg.
[09:58] <AstronautBB> anything I can do to speed up the boot time?
[09:59] <NooBBoon> morran: The sound troubles i had in wine were resolved by making sure the wine configuration used alsa and not oss...not much help but that's all i've got there
[09:59] <sleepinsam> AstronautBB: what do you have loading at boot time?
[09:59] <morran> but it seems, or im pretty sure its the problem is the soundcard.
[10:00] <Beererde> hi. i am trying to run google earth on ubuntu 7.10 x64, it once worked, but it now says "error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1"
[10:00] <morran> NooBBoon: will try that... thx :)
[10:00] <Beererde> what can i do?
[10:00] <Leo1989> Best C++ IDE for Ubuntu guys? Don't like Anjuta btw
[10:00] <NooBBoon> morran: np, i can also tell you that i had to try about a dozen times to get wine installed. It kept crashing for me as well, and I could not even get wineconfig to run
[10:00] <Toma-> I cant get ' and " to work in virtualbox. the guest OS is gutsy and ive tried remapping the keys a few times. any tips?
[10:01] <cam-> i take it the nvidia-glx currently in the repositories still dont support the 8800?
[10:01] <Beererde> Leo1989: vim
[10:01] <predaeus> julien73, I am
[10:01] <Flannel> Toma-: Do they work if you push them twice?
[10:01] <Toma-> Flannel➜ nope
[10:01] <cam-> i had them working from the download provided at nvidia, until i did an apt update and it broke them. now i cant fix them =p
[10:01] <sleepinsam> ummm the host OS is gutsy?
[10:01] <cew_suka> aku lg cr lesbian ni
[10:02] <cew_suka> #surabaya
[10:02] <imaginator> cam-: you probably have to recompile the kernel driver for your nvidia card
[10:02] <cam-> imaginator: i did that.. :/
[10:03] <imaginator> cam-: how is it failing?
[10:03] <cam-> i installed the libc devs and the kernel headers for the kernel im using and re-ran the drivers on the nvidia website, which recompiled it for me
[10:03] <cam-> when it loads X
[10:03] <imaginator> cam-: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[10:03] <sleepinsam> god I hate...recompiled for me
[10:03] <cam-> it comes up saying that there is no supported resolution and its using a low resolution, press OK and then it goes to a black screen where it just hangs
[10:03] <cam-> ok ill just check
[10:04] <Beererde> hi. i am trying to run google earth on ubuntu 7.10 x64, it once worked, but it now says "error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1". suggestions? i think i am missing the 32 bit gl libs, is there a package?
[10:04] <cam-> im using the nv drivers now
[10:05] <Benalex> I am running Gutsy Desktop , each time I set a different DNS Server in the Network configuration, and then reboot... it reverts back to the default DNS obtained by DHCP... any Ideas?
[10:05] <imaginator> Beererde: libGL.so is generally from either from a proprietary video card driver, or a Mesa package.
[10:06] <Beererde> imaginator: and the mesa package is not hardware accelerated, right?
[10:06] <Beererde> imaginator: is there a restricted package in ubuntu which i could reinstall?
[10:06] <imaginator> Beererde: correct, not usually.  Though there is a project based on it that is.
[10:06] <Leo1989> Benalex: mb you need static ip?
[10:06] <Benalex> Leo1989: no I don't need static IP
[10:07] <Flannel> Beererde: Are you using the google earth in the medibuntu repositories?
[10:07] <imaginator> Beererde: if you have the restricted driver manager it may work, though it's known to use the wrong drivers at times
[10:07] <Beererde> Flannel: no, i just downloaded it to a local dir
[10:08] <Flannel> Beererde: You should try the one from the repos. http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/g/googleearth/googleearth_<IP_ADDRESS>1-0medibuntu4_amd64.deb
[10:08] <Beererde> Flannel: ok i'll try it, thx
[10:09] <morran> NooBBoon: hehe, thx alot... got wine to work by removing the wine oss driver :)
[10:09] <postmodern> how do i install rubygems in ubuntu
[10:09] <liryc> hello #ubuntu
[10:10] <postmodern> i installed rubygems, did gem update --system
[10:10] <NooBBoon> morran: great! i was very happy when i finally got wine working!
[10:10] <postmodern> now it doesn't load
[10:10] <American-Tech> Does anybody here use mail notification (The program)
[10:10] <morran> NooBBoon: i'm very happy too... havn't tried anything yet, but it's a good start :)
[10:10] <Benalex> hello liryc
[10:11] <arm9_linux> hello
[10:12] <American-Tech> Does anybody here use mail notification (The program)
[10:12] <arm9_linux> mail tool?
[10:12] <American-Tech> yes
[10:12] <Sarek> hi
[10:12] <arm9_linux> thundbrid is better
[10:13] <liryc> I've a problem with thunderbird. My rss accounts don't load anymore web page (blank, no resume, nothing) related to new rss item. This seems related to install of enigmail I just installed.
[10:13] <sandr-> anyone using google earth through the repositories ? googleearth-package ? I have a question about the extra packages you can see here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49948/
[10:13] <Beererde> Flannel: hmm, still the same error. how can i reinstall the restricted gl drivers (nvidia)?
[10:13] <arm9_linux> I so sorry
[10:13] <arm9_linux> I never use rss
[10:13] <arm9_linux> :(
[10:13] <Sarek> can I somehow convice Samba to use the standard user database of the os? so that when I create a system user he/she can automatically authenticate via with the credentials for samba shares?
[10:14] <Beererde> political correctness ftw...
[10:15] <liryc> I use rss with thunderbird since one year and it worked perfectly until today.
[10:17] <stat> anyone know stuff about with multi repository systems?
[10:17] <Flannel> !anyone | stat
[10:17] <ubotu> stat: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:17] <LOGAN> can I copy part of the live cd to harddisk and continue booting from that?
[10:18] <LOGAN> so the cd drive is freed up?
[10:18] <Flannel> Beererde: nvidia package would be the one to supply it it seems, yes.
[10:18] <liryc> and I have one error message in thunderbird console : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49949/
[10:18] <Toma-> Flannel➜ i fixed the '" problem. seems the -ose version of virtualbox is a little behind on the vbox development
[10:18] <Beererde> Flannel: hmm ok, how would this be called?
[10:18] <Beererde> Flannel: nvidia-glx?
[10:19] <Flannel> Beererde: this is gutsy?
[10:19] <Beererde> Flannel: yes
[10:19] <stat> ok svn - multi repos system, having trouble getting it to work... single repos no issues
[10:20] <Beererde> Flannel: before, i had 7.04 and gearth worked, then i did a dist-upgrade which crashed in the mid of updating, i fixed it with dpkg-reconfigure --all, but the libs are not working anymore
[10:20] <Beererde> i mean the gl libs
[10:20] <Beererde> glxgears works
[10:21] <kumu> Hello. :) I was in here a bit earlier when I was installing Ubuntu. I have Windows and Ubuntu on the same computer, but I'd like Windows to be the OS that loads by default. How do I do this?
[10:21] <Flannel> Beererde: first, check manually to see if that file is there
[10:22] <Flannel> Beererde: I'm thinking maybe the "error" isn't a "not found" sort of thing, but more of a "not compatable" for whatever reason.  Unfortunately the error isn't too verbose.
[10:22] <LOGAN> well i guess thats a no :)
[10:22] <Beererde> Flannel: yes it is /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[10:23] <Beererde> Flannel: yes, seems so.. i think it's just because google earth is 32 bit and the lib is 64 bit, but i don't now how it could work then with ubuntu 7.04
[10:23] <bazhang> kumu: that would be best dealt with in ##windows; unless you have a problem with the grub menu that is
[10:23] <Flannel> Beererde: There are 32 bit... hmm, do you have ia32-libs installed?
[10:24] <kumu> bazhang: I don't know what the grub menu is?
[10:24] <bazhang> LOGAN: why would you want to do that?
[10:24] <g0rb3h> Good morning
[10:24] <bazhang> kumu: you have a dual boot?
[10:24] <imaginator> kumu: install the grub docs, and then info grub, and read the full manual
[10:24] <Beererde> Flannel: yes i have it installed, but it could have beend damaged.. can i check it without reinstalling? it's 300 mb
[10:24] <Beererde> Flannel: there is also no gl lib in /usr/lib32
[10:25] <Flannel> Beererde: I doubt it was damaged, unless you went around deleting random files.
[10:25] <liryc> So I found the problem. Enigmail desactive the html view in body messages by default (text only). I just reactivated html view.
[10:25] <kumu> imaginator: How do I get the grub docs? Sorry, I'm still pretty new :(
[10:25] <LOGAN> bazhang I now use a linux that allows copying one folder to hdd and when boot from cd-rom it continues booting from HDD
[10:25] <Beererde> Flannel: i used the nvidia installer, which sometimes overwrites some files
[10:25] <LOGAN> (Or usb stick)
[10:25] <bazhang> LOGAN: what distro is that?
[10:25] <LOGAN> this way the cd drive is freed
[10:25] <LOGAN> itts http://dynebolic.org/
[10:25] <Flannel> Beererde: I'm unfortunately not an expert at all in regards to the 32-on-64 stuff.  You'll probably want to cross your fingers for someone who is.
[10:25] <YouBucky> Hey Guys, anyone here using an ATI X1300 video card or knows how to install the driver with directing rendering (yes) working?
[10:25] <tiredbones> I just download ubuntu for the third time. Normaly I just right click on the iso icon select write to disc and it works. I am using debian with xfce currently. I tried gnomebaker, but it see the cd as data. Has the method for get a iso image change or is there another method I should us?
[10:26] <Beererde> Flannel: hmm ok
[10:26] <imaginator> kumu: look through the ubuntu menus for something called synaptic.  there's probably also something on the ubuntu wiki.  I'll check
[10:26] <Um_homem_feio> tets
[10:26] <bazhang> LOGAN: ah, nesting is what you are referring to
[10:26] <Beererde> Flannel: thanks anyway, the medibuntu package is a good tip :)
[10:26] <LOGAN> bazhang: sort of, ubuntu live cd does not free the CD drive
[10:26] <bazhang> kumu: you have a dual boot but dont know the grub menu?
[10:27] <LOGAN> dyne:bolic continues live cd booting from a copy of the hdd
[10:27] <kumu> bazhang: All I did was install Ubuntu on another partition
[10:27] <bazhang> LOGAN: you could set up a persistent livecd that can have changes saved back to it, or a usb key that did likewise
[10:27] <bazhang> kumu: and now the windows is lost?
[10:27] <imaginator> kumu: when you're at the boot menu after the BIOS do you see WIndows in the list?
[10:27] <Leo1989> kumu: There is a black screen with list of OS'es you can launch
[10:28] <kumu> imaginator: Yes, I do. Right now, though, if I just let it sit for 10 seconds then it'll load Ubuntu; I want it to load Windows instead
[10:28] <LOGAN> bazhang: I tried and didnt work. besides this is like starting boot from CD and continues from hdd (faster) and leaves CD drive free for use
[10:28] <bazhang> LOGAN: you been to pendrive linux?
[10:28] <Mba7eth> morning all
[10:28] <g0rb3h> anyone have any experiance with webcam stuff, specificaly gspcav?
[10:28] <LOGAN> bazhang: my computer will not boot from usb stick
[10:29] <godlines> anybody can help with a compiling question?
[10:29] <pengo__> !flash
[10:29] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:29] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[10:29] <Flannel> kumu: This is what you need to do: open up your grub menu (gksu "gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"), at the very bottom is your windows entry, the line after it (leave no blank line) add "savedefault" then up at the top, where it says "default 0" change that to "default saved"
[10:29] <tomd> kumu: put some duct tape on the down arrow of your keyboard; 50% of the time windows will start by default.. how much more can you ask for
[10:29] <nuGzthk> hey
[10:29] <nuGzthk> woot
[10:29] <imaginator> kumu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[10:29] <LOGAN> the flash fix will be coming in APRIL 2008! :)
[10:30] <Beererde> Flannel: i reinstalled ia32-libs and now it works again :)
[10:30] <Flannel> Beererde: nice.  Glad something worked
[10:30] <Beererde> Flannel: yeah :)
[10:31] <nuGzthk> how do i install steam ?
[10:31] <bazhang> tomd: haha
[10:31] <bazhang> LOGAN: what about from cd session?
[10:32] <LOGAN> bazhang: i can boot from cd but that causes my cd to be n use :)
[10:32] <bazhang> LOGAN: what do you need the cd drive for?
[10:32] <LOGAN> bazhang: watching dvds, etc
[10:32] <Mba7eth> guys how can i find where is my com driver ?
[10:33] <bazhang> LOGAN: geekbox
[10:33] <LOGAN> bazhang: cd burning
[10:33] <kumu> Alright, thanks everyone :) If I don't come back, it worked!
[10:33] <bazhang> heh
[10:33] <bazhang> Mba7eth: com driver? what is that
[10:33] <YouBucky> Hey Guys, anyone here using an ATI X1300 video card or knows how to install the driver with directing rendering working?
[10:34] <imaginator> LOGAN: it's unlikely that you could watch any DVDs anyway using a Ubuntu CD, rather than an install
[10:34] <bazhang> http://geexbox.org/ LOGAN
[10:34] <imaginator> LOGAN: libdvdcss is missing for one thing, so most commercial DVDs wouldn't play
[10:34] <Mba7eth> bazhang serial com
[10:34] <LOGAN> imaginator: well, I watched dvds while I wait untill windows gets fixed
[10:35] <bazhang> Mba7eth: still no idea what you mean; the video card drivers? the wireless? other?
[10:35] <LOGAN> bazhang: thanks
[10:35] <bazhang> LOGAN: no worries
[10:35] <arm9_linux> your com does not work?
[10:35] <bazhang> what is a com?
[10:35] <Mba7eth> bazhang on your  PC there is a port called com, correct ?
[10:36] <bazhang> not that I know of...
[10:36] <arm9_linux> com port,like super termial in windows
[10:36] <arm9_linux> the com driver is builtin
[10:36] <bazhang> any other ##windows experts want to chime in?
[10:37] <LOGAN> im now on a live cd session using dyne:bolic distro. thats something I miss from ubuntu :)
[10:37] <Mba7eth> yes i want to connect a cisco drivce to my pc using console cable
[10:37] <Flannel> Mba7eth: serial?
[10:37] <Mba7eth> arm9_linux i know that but where is it location exactly
[10:38] <Mba7eth> arm9_linux i'm using minicom to connect to my switch .,... but i have to define where is the com
[10:38] <arm9_linux> I think you should find some tools
[10:38] <bazhang> Mba7eth: is this a hardware question? there should be a channel for that..
[10:38] <arm9_linux> ok,let me see,wait a moment
[10:38] <Mba7eth> arm9_linux like : /dev/tty9
[10:38] <ifireball> Mba7eth: its probably /dev/ttyS0
[10:38] <Mr-LonelY> hi..anyone can help me? Got those error > checking for gcc... gcc
[10:38] <Mr-LonelY> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:39] <imaginator> Mba7eth: grep your dmesg for serial or ttyS
[10:39] <ifireball> Mba7eth: or /dev/ttyS1 if you have 2 pots
[10:39] <Mba7eth> ifireball Special thanks to you and the rest :)
[10:40] <arm9_linux> why not try minicom tool
[10:40] <arm9_linux> sudo apt-get install minicom
[10:41] <alemones> imaginator: I removed Helix and installed Mplayer but still can't see real player content in firefox... ;(
[10:41] <arm9_linux> com1--->ttyS0
[10:41] <ifireball> arm9_linux: he did, he just wanted to know which device to use it with
[10:41] <arm9_linux> com2-->ttyS1
[10:42] <arm9_linux> ls -al /dev/ttyS0
[10:42] <alemones> imaginator: but Helix still appears as RealPlay compatible plugin in about:plugins...
[10:42] <arm9_linux> see that, the own is root
[10:42] <bazhang> alemones: why not get the real player from real.com
[10:42] <alemones> imaginator: MPlayer too...
[10:42] <vinicius> it seems i can't download from any https location, with firefox, wget or any other way.... what can it be?
[10:42] <arm9_linux> so you should type"sudo minicom"
[10:43] <alemones> bazhang: many told me Mplayer would be ok... actually I have RealPlayer 9 installed too
[10:43] <Mba7eth> arm9_linux this is what i'm using .... i didn't find any other tool in linux for com port except minicom
[10:43] <vinicius> it says my certificates are bad or something like that
[10:43] <alemones> bazhang: but I think I have the plugins messed up :(
[10:43] <arm9_linux> have you set the minicom crectly?
[10:43] <vinicius> i already purged and reinstalled firefox, but it don't seem to be a problem only with firefox, but with my computer
[10:44] <Mba7eth> arm9_linux alreay got it working ... just do the configuration in sudo mode, save them, quit, then use it with using ur normal user
[10:44] <ifireball> Mba7eth: its because there aren't called "com ports" they are called "serial ports" there are plenty of other tools, but minicom is good enough
[10:45] <Mba7eth> ifireball : serial com ..... sorry i guess confused you guys alot :)
[10:45] <bazhang> hehe
[10:45] <arm9_linux> yes