[04:32] <khaije1> Lathiat: man, i *hate* adobe...
[04:32] <Flannel> Lathiat, khaije1, no need for adobe website, there's a deb in Seveas' repositories
[04:32] <factotum> ubuntuSucks: you just said you already did it
[04:32] <khaije1> oh well
[04:33] <Lathiat> jrsims: ok umm well theres two ways we can go about this.. we could disable ipv6 i gue4ss *thinks how to do that*
[04:33] <ubuntuSucks> read, buddy
[04:33] <ubuntuSucks> seriously, learn to read a complete sentence... it's a life sklil
[04:33] <khaije1> Flannel: Lathiat, does it look good? i'm not assured it won't make things worse y'know?
[04:33] <Lathiat> jrsims: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6841.html
[04:33] <der0b> ubuntusucks: if you want help stop being rude to everyone
[04:33] <megadom> jeeves_Moss: interesting...I just checked the man page for gksu and the -c option is not listed....thanks for letting us all know
[04:33] <Lathiat> khaije1: at worst you could uninstall it
[04:33] <[jb] > can someone send me the edgy original wallpaper?
[04:33] <megadom> give me a sec
[04:33] <AkumAPRIME> does anyone know how to make a notebook mouse not "tap"?
[04:34] <ubuntuSucks> so nobody knows linux well enough to diagnose a sound problem? I don't have any problems on windows, and this is exactly why everybody uses it...
[04:34] <Lathiat> [jb] : 'original'?
[04:34] <jordan_> ubuntuSucks, Please, try to be more civil, we aren't paid to help you
[04:34] <kodat> man my shit is running slow..opening terminal and my other crap is taking like way long
[04:34] <Pelo> damit
[04:34] <jrsims> Lathiat: ok, thanks.
[04:34] <khaije1> Lathiat: ymmv aye?
[04:34] <Lathiat> ubuntuSucks: losing the nickname might be a good start eh
[04:34] <ubuntuSucks> and you aren't helping me either
[04:34] <jordan_> ubuntuSucks, It isn't as much a problem of linux not working as hardware manufacturers not supplying drivers or specifications, if you would like to talk about it civily I would be glad to in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[04:34] <Pelo> failed
[04:34] <[jb] > Lathiat, yeah... the nice wallpaper that it comes when you upgrade to edgy
[04:34] <ubuntuSucks> so how come slax works
[04:34] <der0b> ubuntusucks: I have no intrest in helping anyone trolling
[04:34] <ubuntuSucks> that's linux
[04:34] <leftjustified> how can I allow SSH connections? I have server installed, but I'm getting "connection refused on port 22"
[04:34] <factotum> then run slax if you cant troubleshoot it
[04:35] <cyphase> Interesting feature in Beryl.. if you go to the "Choices" tab in the "Desktop Cube" plugin in the settings manager, and you disable "Draw Caps", you can switch to the top/bottom of the cube and see the entire skydome
[04:35] <Lathiat> leftjustified: install the "ssh" package
[04:35] <[jb] > i dont know the wallpaper's name... but is very nice
[04:35] <Lathiat> leftjustified: is this on gui or non-gui install?
[04:35] <ubuntuSucks> i'm not trolling, i just am fed up with livecds build by one guy working and big distros crapping out on my hardware
[04:35] <Elazar> Anyone else finding on Edgy that Firefox is rather sluggish?
[04:35] <Lathiat> leftjustified: "apt-get install ssh" for a console or open the "Synaptic package manager" And search for the 'ssh' package and install that
[04:35] <leftjustified> Lathiat: it's installed. this is recovery mode :(
[04:35] <AkumAPRIME> 2 questions: How do I get the wallpaper time based changer back, that Ubuntu used to have, and how do I make the Mouse not tap unless I click the button? there is no option in the mouse settings
[04:35] <factotum> ubuntuSucks: then why arent you running slax right now then?
[04:35] <ubuntuSucks> i can't install slax and i want to take advantage of synaptic, and i don't want to run debian plain... there aren't many distros that fit that bill
[04:36] <factotum> ah
[04:36] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: "time based changer" that was a third party addon afaik
[04:36] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: laptop mouse?
[04:36] <megadom> jrsims: (1) get more memory/RAM (2) get a faster processor (3) get a faster connection to the internet (4) fix any bugs in your *nix or OS installation
[04:36] <ubuntuSucks> do you think i'm an idiot just because i don't like your soundless distro?
[04:36] <redcard> No.
[04:36] <Falstiu1> leftjustified: do /etc/init.d/ssh start
[04:36] <BryanJ> tsk tsk tsk
[04:36] <Lathiat> megadom: its nothign to do with that
[04:36] <poningru> !ops
[04:36] <AkumAPRIME> Lathiat: you know the built in mouse thingy...
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[04:36] <leftjustified> Lathiat: and it wouldn't let me mount the ipod either -- unable to recognize filesystem type. Now I'm trying to ssh from my laptop and rescue files that way
[04:36] <BryanJ> can someone help?
[04:36] <redcard> ubuntuSucks: My distro has sounds.
[04:36] <redcard> Maybe you suck?
[04:36] <ubuntuSucks> great... get a medal
[04:36] <ubuntuSucks> yes, i suck.
[04:36] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: hrm, can you pastebin a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[04:36] <mcrandello> don't need one, have sound
[04:36] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: and i'll give you a modification to /etc/X11/xorg.conf thatl disable that
[04:36] <poningru> redcard: please do not feed the trolls
[04:36] <kodat> hmm how do i install this theme...do i just move it into ./icons?
[04:36] <redcard> ubuntuSucks: Good.  Glad we got that settled.
[04:36] <Lathiat> jrsims: any luck?
[04:36] <Flannel> Now now, guys, no need for namecalling.
[04:36] <AkumAPRIME> sure, 1sec...
[04:36] <Lathiat> kodat: what kind of theme is it?
[04:36] <factotum> pfft i give up, your more defensive and uptight than my 4 year old
[04:36] <redcard> poningru: Too much fun.  Ban him or kick him if you don't like him here.
[04:37] <Lathiat> kodat: a gnome theme?
[04:37] <poningru> !theme | kodat
[04:37] <ubotu> kodat: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:37] <BryanJ> kay, when I install ubuntu, the installer crashes like half way through...
[04:37] <leftjustified> Falstiu1: thanks
[04:37] <jeeves_Moss> megadom:  NP, I'm not sure if it's just this laptop and brand, but it's been giving me problems with EVERY distro I've used on it.
[04:37] <kodat> Lathiat, its an icon theme
[04:37] <jrsims> Lathiat: yeah, I already had ipv6 off in ubuntu, but firefox needed it disabled too
[04:37] <jrsims> Lathiat: now it works fine
[04:37] <Lathiat> jrsims: ok cool
[04:37] <Lathiat> jrsims: ooc, what kind of router do you have?
[04:37] <megadom> ubuntuSucks: I am just looking for a solution to my linux problem and helping others for a couple minutes...how 'bout you....get stood up again?
[04:37] <Lathiat> its going to be interesting when vista comes along with ipv6 enabled out of the box too
[04:37] <jrsims> Lathiat: it was a free linksys I was given by vonage
[04:37] <Lathiat> will break just as bad on these silly routers :\
[04:37] <Lathiat> and/or upstraem dns servers
[04:37] <jrsims> Lathiat: I need something newer, I know
[04:37] <BryanJ> Can someone help me install Ubuntu?
[04:37] <Lathiat> jrsims: well it shoudl just work ;p
[04:38] <Flannel> BryanJ: what do you need help with?
[04:38] <AkumAPRIME> Lathiat: http://pastebin.ca/225690
[04:38] <poningru> grr
[04:38] <poningru> !ops
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[04:38] <jrsims> Lathiat: agreed. wish it would. actually, from windows its fine
[04:38] <BryanJ> Kay, I've burned the ISO of Ubuntu to a CD-R and booted it
[04:38] <Lathiat> jrsims: yeh in XP ipv6 is off by default
[04:38] <BryanJ> and then installed it to my first 20gb partition, but the installer crashes
[04:38] <Amaranth> poningru: what now?
[04:38] <easytiger> can i watch wmv files? only about half of them ever work?
[04:38] <poningru> Amallya: nm he left I think
[04:38] <chuckyp> !codecs > easytiger
[04:39] <Flannel> BryanJ: what speed did you burn it?  this is the Desktop CD I imagine?
[04:39] <AkumAPRIME> Anyone here play nethack on linux? I could use some help with it. I tried WINEing it, it was WAY too slow
[04:39] <BryanJ> 24.1x
[04:39] <factotum> in the entire time you complained about not having sound, ive found how to find the needed module, load it, check my email, gotten a beer, said goodnight to my son and typed this. All while talking to you
[04:39] <BryanJ> yes it is
[04:39] <redcard> AkumAPRIME:  Huh?
[04:39] <factotum> Learn time management
[04:39] <redcard> AkumAPRIME: apt-get install nethack-gnome
[04:39] <Elazar> Anyone else finding on Edgy that Firefox is rather sluggish?
[04:39] <Flannel> BryanJ: try reburning at 4x
[04:39] <jeeves_Moss> megadom:  it's complining that I don't have libc6-i686 installed, and I can't install it because of another package.
[04:39] <megadom> "ubuntuSucks: slax goddamn works as a live cd, but ubuntu doesn't... so ubuntu... sucks"  [04:39] <AkumAPRIME> Redcard: it crashes on me
[04:39] <Hellclan> hey im back can any one help me compile madwifi
[04:39] <AkumAPRIME> Ill try again
[04:39] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, are you running dapper or edgy?
[04:39] <nalioth> poningru: what's up?
[04:39] <redcard> AkumAPRIME: Hmm.  What crashes on you explicitly?
[04:39] <BryanJ> It boots, but when I click the "Install" shortcut on the desktop, and let it choose the partition as root, when I click "INSTALL" it goes half way and just crashes
[04:40] <BryanJ> The installer
[04:40] <papabill> I have a dane-elec usb flash drive. I works fine except I have to run sync to make sure change are written to the drive. Is there a way around this?
[04:40] <poningru> nalioth: nm he left I think
[04:40] <chuckyp> Hellclan, does the one thats already installed not working?
[04:40] <poningru> ubuntusucks
[04:40] <der0b> bryanj: I've had a ton of probs with edgy using a liteon 160p6s drive.  is that what you have?
[04:40] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: ok.. in /etc/X11/xorg.conf look for the synaptics sectionm
[04:40] <BryanJ> Which is default on the desktop
[04:40] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: and pastebin that for me
[04:40] <Hellclan> Chuckyp, no
[04:40] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp: what is the command to find out?
[04:40] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: should be Section "mouse" .. Driver "synaptics.....End Section or something like that
[04:40] <BryanJ> (The installer for Ubuntu on the CD to install to your HDD)
[04:40] <chuckyp> Hellclan, no it is or no it is not
[04:40] <jordan_> BryanJ, Did you do the CD check option at boot to make sure it burned correctly?
[04:41] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, well did you install edgy or dapper?
[04:41] <maxflax> crimsun, u have to point me to a source of information on how to obtain,compile and install Alsa Hg drivers.. been looking for info along time now and I only find crap!
[04:41] <pir4> hello :p
[04:41] <Hellclan> no it is not chuckyp
[04:41] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  HOW do I check, I can't remember
[04:41] <crimsun> maxflax: ->#alsa
[04:41] <Falstiu1> AkumAPRIME: which version of nethack did you try to apt-get?
[04:42] <der0b> bryanj: I've had a ton of probs with edgy using a liteon 160p6s drive.  is that what you have?  if I burned the installer on that drive I couldn't install it.  it would just hang during install (on multiple machines) even though the cd test passed
[04:42] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, cat /etc/issue
[04:42] <AkumAPRIME> Lathiat: http://pastebin.ca/225699
[04:42] <megadom> ubuntuSucks: learn to type - it is an irc skill
[04:42] <BryanJ> Hmmmz
[04:42] <AkumAPRIME> Falstiul: gnome 3.4.3
[04:42] <chemaja>  yessss, victory --- i figured out how to bind the ScrLk keycode to the Super keysym (ie. now I have a Super key on a non-104-key keyboard) ------ but Compiz Water effect (ie. rain) still won't work. In gconf-editor:/apps/compiz/plugins/water/allscreens/options, you can see that the initiate_key is <Control><Super>, and toggle_rain_key is <Shift>F9..... but pressing these in this order doesn't seem to give me rain droplets. Can anyone possibly shed some
[04:42] <chemaja> light on this?
[04:42] <pir4> i have a problem with my usb - ethernet adaptor, i just downloaded ubuntu, it detects it well, but the problem is that it doesnt work. In windows i use DHCP Auto but in linux it doesnt work. I tried to set up the ip adress but no results, anyone know something ?
[04:42] <Flannel> megadom: he's been gone for a while, no need to continue to carry on
[04:42] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: ok after the line Option .. Horizscrolldelta..0
[04:42] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: on a new line put
[04:42] <chuckyp> Hellclan, well most of your source packages have installation instructions built in either a readme file or a  install  file after you extract the tar.gz
[04:42] <Danger> Can some one help me I can not get 6.1 to run after X trys to stat with my raion card
[04:42] <chuckyp> !compile > Hellclan
[04:42] <BryanJ> Ok.. heres a question! How do I install Ubuntu from the Live CD... Simple as that =)
[04:42] <Danger> Radion
[04:42] <BryanJ> *reads something
[04:43] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp: ubuntu 5.10 breezy badger \n \l
[04:43] <Hellclan> chuckyp i dl the file for madwifi and i try make on it and it says ste the kernal path
[04:43] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: --- Option "TouchpadOff" "2" ---
[04:43] <Flannel> BryanJ: by clicking on the install button, however if that's failing, and you're sure it's a good burn, you migh try the alternate CD, it's an older (rock solid) installer
[04:43] <chuckyp> Hellclan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManagerMadWifi
[04:43] <pir4> i have a problem with my usb - ethernet adaptor, i just downloaded ubuntu, it detects it well, but the problem is that it doesnt work. In windows i use DHCP Auto but in linux it doesnt work. I tried to set up the ip adress but no results, anyone know something ?
[04:43] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: do you have a spare mouse? i'm following some instructions here im not 100% sure if that wont disable it entirely ;)
[04:43] <BryanJ> meh
[04:43] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: but ti claims that will "Only tapping and scrolling is switche doff"
[04:43] <luisito> hello
[04:43] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, hrm...  Reboot required?
[04:44] <BryanJ> And I'm not to positive with it
[04:44] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: need to restart X
[04:45] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: hrm before you do that
[04:45] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: theres a better solution apparently
[04:45] <Hellclan> chuckyp this is what i get andrew-laptop:/home/andrew/Desktop/madwifi-0.9.2# make
[04:45] <AkumAPRIME> Lathiat: hope scrolling isnt killed
[04:45] <Hellclan> cd: 1: can't cd to /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/build
[04:45] <Hellclan> Makefile.inc:89: *** /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[04:45] <BryanJ> "/" is like the main directory of Ubuntu, correct?
[04:45] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: change that lien to .. --- Option "MaxTapTime" "0"
[04:45] <easytiger> any way to play MS WMV 9 (win32) on linux?
[04:45] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: obviously stats at Option not the ---
[04:45] <AkumAPRIME> right
[04:45] <AkumAPRIME> lol
[04:45] <jordan_> BryanJ, Yes.
[04:45] <BryanJ> and
[04:45] <BryanJ> Is that the only one I need for one partition?
[04:45] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: *starts*
[04:45] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, okay first update your system then gksu "update-manager"  click the check button and you should be able to install dapper.
[04:45] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: and then yeh to restart X, logout and then press "control-alt-backspace"
[04:45] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: or if all else fails just reboot
[04:46] <kofwang> hello when i upgrade to 6.10, my Swap has disappered, "Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,   218188k cached"
[04:46] <pir4> i have a problem with my usb - ethernet adaptor, i just downloaded ubuntu, it detects it well, but the problem is that it doesnt work. In windows i use DHCP Auto but in linux it doesnt work. I tried to set up the ip adress but no results, anyone know something ?
[04:46] <AkumAPRIME> k, brb, and Ill test nethack gnome on reboot too! thanx all!
[04:46] <Lathiat> kofwang: can you put a copy /etc/fstab in pastebin?
[04:46] <BryanJ> Ok..
[04:46] <Falstiu1> kofwang: there are some bug reports about that ...
[04:47] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  when I use that, it gives me the button to upgrade, then half way through it, it crashes
[04:47] <chuckyp> Hellclan, did you install linux-headers-`uname -r`   ?
[04:47] <BryanJ> Hold on
[04:47] <BryanJ> let me boot into ubuntu
[04:47] <Lathiat> kofwang: also the output of "sfdisk -d /dev/sda"
[04:47] <Hellclan> chuckyp, just realsized i did nto
[04:47] <reid> Anyone familiar with easyvmx.com?
[04:47] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, Do you get an error?
[04:47] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  one sec.  trying again to see if I can regen it.
[04:47] <luisito> Commentary about Edgy Eft: I think 6.10 have the best interface I've ever seen in any other linux distro, and it is very welll integrated. But I'm still waiting for the guys of Gnome to make the menu fonts in the panel to be bold, please!!
[04:47] <chuckyp> Hellclan, try installing that.  IF that doesn't work try installing linux-source-`uname -r`
[04:47] <kodat> anyone know how i can get ubuntu to tell me how much HD space i got left
[04:48] <megadom> i am behind....Flannel....
[04:48] <kodat> cuz it says unknown about all my hard drive
[04:48] <chuckyp> kodat, df
[04:48] <lonran> how can i change make a folder  readable and writable for everybody?
[04:48] <Hellclan> k
[04:48] <megadom> i can not reach the bottom of the list
[04:48] <Hellclan> thx chuckyp
[04:48] <Falstiu1> luisito: can't you just change that in the preferences?
[04:48] <chuckyp> lonran, chmod a+rw /path/to/folder
[04:48] <kodat> chuckyp, df?
[04:48] <Flannel> megadom: So it seems.  You in irssi? or what?  in irssi hold pagedown, in... anything else, scroll all the way down.
[04:48] <chuckyp> kodat, df in terminal
[04:48] <megadom> whooohhoooo
[04:48] <megadom> i made
[04:48] <megadom> it
[04:49] <chuckyp> Hellclan, np
[04:49] <reid> Where is my primary CDROM path anyone?
[04:49] <kodat> ah ok
[04:49] <chuckyp> reid, what do you mean is it mounted?
[04:49] <lonran> thks chuckyp
[04:49] <jordan_> reid, /media/cdrom
[04:49] <megadom> i am a slow reader and took a drink of water...there was alot of chatter for a bit there
[04:49] <bet0x> what means enhancement?
[04:49] <luisito> Falstiu1, nope. No those fonts only, they aren't isolated.
[04:49] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: Did that fix it for you?
[04:49] <AkumAPRIME> Lathiat: worked like a charm. Where did you find that documentation?
[04:49] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: I need to head off
[04:49] <AkumAPRIME> :D ty btw
[04:49] <reid> I need it to use with VMWARE
[04:50] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: googled for "xorg synaptics disbale tap"
[04:50] <reid> and it says select CDROM
[04:50] <AkumAPRIME> cool, thanx man
[04:50] <Lathiat> AkumAPRIME: and found: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76585
[04:50] <chuckyp> !vmware > reid
[04:50] <reid> thanks
[04:50] <reid> !vmware
[04:50] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[04:50] <AkumAPRIME> redcard: when I run gnome nethack, nothing ever comes up :(
[04:50] <Lathiat> i'm afraid i have to head off now, i think i've sorted everyone i started to help at least
[04:50] <Lathiat> TTY all later :)
[04:50] <megadom> okay....i am off to fix my wife's profile...later all
[04:50] <luisito> Falstiu1, and that simple detail makes a really big difference to the interface.
[04:51] <AkumAPRIME> 88 lathiat, happy halloween weekend!
[04:51] <AkumAPRIME> redcard: the gnome nethack should be runnable from the application, games menu, where I see the icon, right?
[04:52] <b^j> i goofed up and installed i386 when i wanted amd64, is there a way to changer to amd64 without a reinstall?
[04:52] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp: the error is as follows (VERY non discript)  "a unersolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade.  Please report this bug"
[04:53] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, hrm.. perhaps try the forums.  or someone else may be able to help.
[04:53] <AkumAPRIME> is WINE Generally REALLY slow? I ran the windows nethack under it, and it was retarduously slow
[04:53] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  I think I looked last night between a few glasses of wine.
[04:54] <wastrel> why are you running windows nethack?
[04:54] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  after it errored out, it says I now have 600+ updates to install.
[04:54] <BryanJK> Ok
[04:54] <BryanJK> Let me try and install it again
[04:56] <AkumAPRIME> ok, I am trying to get my screen to full resolution. I tried reconfiguring my xserver-xorg, but under the list of video cards, I don't see intel listed. What might an intel card be? or is it simply not included in that list?
[04:56] <BryanJK> Im just wondering
[04:56] <BryanJK> Can my Ubuntu resolution go higher than 1024x768?
[04:56] <AkumAPRIME> yes Bryan
[04:57] <monokrome> lol
[04:57] <AkumAPRIME> I did it, then I broke it :(
[04:57] <BryanJK> Do i need to install drivers?
[04:57] <AkumAPRIME> what video card do you have?
[04:57] <BryanJK> Radeon x850XT
[04:57] <BryanJK> I ussally run on 1600x1200
[04:57] <punkforpez> AkumAPRIME, what does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf say under "Device"?
[04:57] <monokrome> ATI is always fun... lo.
[04:58] <BryanJK> Im going to sell it =)
[04:58] <AkumAPRIME> intel mobile 910/etc etc express
[04:58] <Danger> can any one help me get this 6.1 running?
[04:58] <kennyyyy> i can't play mpg, avi, wmv, rmvb files on totem.... what should i do?
[04:58] <BryanJK> Either an nVidia 7900GS for $250 or an nVida 7800GT for $200
[04:58] <Flannel> !restricted | kennyyyy
[04:58] <ubotu> kennyyyy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:58] <punkforpez> how about your monitor settings? verified that the HorizSync and VertRefresh values are correct?
[04:59] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  is it normal to be installing over 600 updates to upgrade?
[04:59] <BryanJK> me?
[04:59] <Kingsqueak> jeeves_Moss an upgrade is replacing most of your system, so yeah
[04:59] <Danger> well I guess it i time to abandon ubuntu
[04:59] <BryanJK> Ok
[05:00] <jeeves_Moss> Kingsqueak:  have you been following the caht I've been having with chuckyp?
[05:00] <BryanJK> Im installing it now
[05:00] <punkforpez> AkumAPRIME i had to manually edit all xorg.conf, and take out all of the resolutions i didn't intend to use to get the one i wanted
[05:00] <BryanJK> Im going to manually edit partition table since I have partitions with Media and FIles i need
[05:00] <AkumAPRIME> punkforpez: I think I just solved prob. restarting X, brb
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> fowler1, howdy
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> wow
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> that was quick
[05:02] <BryanJK> Here: http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1219/screenshotyw1.png
[05:02] <orion_> Hey - does anyone have the IP for easyubunty.freecontrib.org  ?
[05:02] <orion_> thier namserver is down
[05:02] <adele> ATI drivers for ubuntu are weird
[05:03] <orion_> errr - does anyone have the IP for easyubuntu.freecontrib.org  ?
[05:03] <BryanJK> trace it mb?
[05:03] <nomasteryoda|w> or ping it
[05:03] <orion_> tried that, no good
[05:03] <adele> for some reason my videocard sounds like boeing 747
[05:03] <BryanJK> Installing System - 20%
[05:03] <BryanJK> Ok it just Dissapeared
[05:03] <BryanJK> at 20%
[05:03] <kodat> kinda depressing that i cant get my wireless wrking..
[05:03] <BryanJK> Poof, magic trick, its gone
[05:04] <BryanJK> reminds me of mac =l
[05:04] <orion_> Since their nameserver is down, dns queries fail me
[05:04] <nomasteryoda|w> i love the new Bootsplash logo
[05:04] <nomasteryoda|w> very nice
[05:04] <orion_> But other peoples DNS queries might work...
[05:04] <nomasteryoda|w> looking...
[05:04] <punkforpez> much better than the edgy testing one
[05:04] <adele> what software can I use to play div x or xvid files on linux?
[05:04] <BryanJK> nomasteryoda, can you help me install ubuntu on a custom partition?
[05:05] <nomasteryoda|w> but I need an alternate option... like they have in SuSE... where you can do Alt+F2 to see the boot info
[05:05] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, how so? custom?
[05:05] <bruenig> adele, totem movie player will do, you just need the proper codecs
[05:05] <adele> any easy way to get these codecs?
[05:05] <BryanJK> I have three partitions, Partition 1 is for boot
[05:05] <adele> im really new to this
[05:05] <bruenig> !w32codecs
[05:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:05] <Hellclan> can any one hlep me get madwifi to register my card
[05:05] <kodat> anyone a master of fixing wireless? cuz ive been trying for about 6 hours and i cant get it to work
[05:05] <Hellclan> lol
[05:05] <BryanJK> Partition 2 is for Anything, and Partion 3 has all my files and cant be formatted
[05:05] <demio> hey guys
[05:05] <justAGuy> hello... can anyone help me understand why ubuntu doesn't want to play sound? I've tried alsamixer, and my sound is not mute. My card works in linux
[05:06] <Flannel> kodat: you try the wifi howto?
[05:06] <kodat> Flannel, yep
[05:06] <BryanJK> But when I select them, it just crashes when it installs
[05:06] <demio> how the hell do i read the new fstab with UUIDS
[05:06] <kodat> !wifi
[05:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:06] <mcrandello> I'm a blackbelt in having-broken-wifi, don't think that helps
[05:06] <demio> how do i know where a UUID points?
[05:06] <demio> i just changed my partitions around
[05:06] <orion_> Can someone ping easyubuntu.freecontrib.org and tell me the IP address ?
[05:06] <monokrome> kodat: What chipset is the card using?
[05:06] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, you dong the live install?
[05:06] <kodat> i just cant get it to scan the area its freekin depressing
[05:06] <BryanJK> Yea
[05:06] <jordan_> orion_, Not resolving with openDNS either :(
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, make sure you have the 2 to install on not mounted
[05:07] <monokrome> Ping request could not find host easyubuntu.freecontrib.org. Please check the na
[05:07] <monokrome> me and try again.
[05:07] <Nutubuntu> orion_: unknown host from here too
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> monokrome, might be down for a bit
[05:07] <kodat> arr i forget chipset..lemme see if i can find it again
[05:07] <BryanJK> What do you mean
[05:07] <monokrome> nomasteryoda|w: obviously :P
[05:07] <punkforpez> same here, no response
[05:07] <mcrandello> "no route to host" must be one of them there ipv7 addresses
[05:07] <orion_> Phooey!  :-)
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[05:08] <nomasteryoda|w> i mean for maintenance
[05:08] <nomasteryoda|w> i've had that happen
[05:08] <kelten> has anyone else had problems with X starting (after reboot) when installing nvidia drivers with edgy?
[05:08] <mcrandello> orion_, actually my wifi just came back for a second and I got unknown host :( sorry
[05:08] <BryanJK> Do you mean the partitions/hardrives?
[05:08] <BryanJK> Because I can't even access those
[05:08] <nomasteryoda|w> yup
[05:08] <nomasteryoda|w> really?
[05:08] <BryanJK> just a sec
[05:09] <nomasteryoda|w> fromt the live cd you have to make mount points to access
[05:09] <Naruto> HI!!!, canal irc spanish ubuntu?
[05:09] <nomasteryoda|w> in /tmp/mnt or some such
[05:09] <distantbody> Does Anyone know why the 'upgrade to edgy' option in Update Manager is absent? I had that option yesterday with 6.06.1, but I have since reinstalled and updated 6.06.1, and now no upgrade option. Does anyone have any ideas?
[05:09] <orion_> Easyubuntu is broken - thier nameservers are down  www.xname.org has some message on there about it
[05:09] <bruenig> !es | Naruto
[05:09] <ubotu> Naruto: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:09] <mcrandello> incredible how it just sits there not transferring anything for up to 5 min at a time and then whatever net software hasn't timed out yet just blazes for about a second and it's all over again *sigh
[05:09] <netdu1> hey people, I did upgrade to edgy, now fonts looks ugly!!!
[05:09] <tyler_d> recomended movie players?
[05:09] <bruenig> tyler_d, totem-xine
[05:09] <tyler_d> other then totem and mplayer....
[05:09] <Naruto> Thanks Men :-)
[05:09] <tyler_d> or recomended codec packs?
[05:09] <BryanJK> Here
[05:10] <Erich-K> Kaffeine?
[05:10] <Danger> any one that can help me get the live cd totaly booted?
[05:10] <jordan_> distantbody, gksu "update-manager -c"
[05:10] <kodat> Flannel, its broadcom
[05:10] <BryanJK> Jeeeze imageshack is being slow
[05:10] <bruenig> !restriced | tyler_d
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restriced - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <bruenig> !restricted | tyler_d
[05:10] <ubotu> tyler_d: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:10] <BryanJK> This is what I have nomasteryoda: http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9305/screenshot1wj7.png
[05:10] <Flannel> kodat: oh, I know nothing about wireless, sorry.  Just making sure you knew about the wiki page.
[05:10] <kodat> Flannel, lol yah im at the wiki
[05:11] <punkforpez> who was having the problem with the update option not displaying?
[05:11] <jordan_> Danger, What happens when you try to boot?
[05:11] <BryanJK> la la la...
[05:11] <distantbody>  jordan: Whoops! I totally forgot that I did that yesterday! Thanks! :-$
[05:11] <nomasteryoda|w> looking
[05:12] <BryanJK> Linux is so leet
[05:12] <bruenig> 1337*
[05:12] <BryanJK> Same thing
[05:12] <bruenig> 1337 is 1337, leet is not 1337
[05:12] <BryanJK> 1337 is just symbols made to look like leet
[05:12] <monokrome> leet is for n00bs.
[05:13] <monokrome> 1337 is where it's at.
[05:13] <kelten> 1337 != leet
[05:13] <netdu1> here how fonts look at my computer http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=281028752&size=o
[05:13] <monokrome> I showed your mom otherwize, kelten.
[05:13] <punkforpez> netdu1 yikes!
[05:13] <BryanJK> tsk tsk tsk
[05:13] <BryanJK> This OS reminds me alot of windows vista
[05:13] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, try the "mount" command
[05:14] <nomasteryoda|w> in terminal
[05:14] <nomasteryoda|w> LOL
[05:14] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[05:14] <BryanJK> Hmm
[05:14] <BryanJK> I havent really been using Linux for long
[05:14] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[05:14] <netdu1> punkforpez, huh?
[05:14] <kelten> monokrome, ya
[05:14] <BryanJK> So heres the extreme noob question, how do I open terminal :P
[05:14] <nomasteryoda|w> open terminal... under Applications, Accessories, Terminal
[05:14] <effie_jayx> he left
[05:14] <nomasteryoda|w> doh
[05:15] <nomasteryoda|w> ya
[05:15] <effie_jayx> got embarrased
[05:15] <nomasteryoda|w> slow i am
[05:15] <nomasteryoda|w> LOL
[05:15] <Chu> Hmm, usplash still refuses to work. I've got no idea what's going on, and I'd be willing just to reinstall everything by downloading packages again... But, er, I don't know how one might do that without removing the packages. :[
[05:15] <Flannel> !enter
[05:15] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:16] <effie_jayx> how's edgy????
[05:16] <netdu1> ugly
[05:16] <godmachine81> effie_jayx:: bout the same as dapper
[05:16] <effie_jayx> I haven't upgraded... I'm not confindet it will runn well on this machine
[05:16] <bruenig> ubuntu is always ugly, that's given
[05:16] <godmachine81> bruenig:: its not ugly when you customize it
[05:16] <godmachine81> heh
[05:16] <effie_jayx> netdul... it could be dull
[05:16] <bruenig> godmachine81, right,
[05:16] <netdu1> no, the fonts is ugly http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=281028752&size=o
[05:17] <CorpseFeeder> synaptic is all different in 6.10 under the settings>repositories menu. I ticked some stuff in there and it broke. Now I am getting "E: Malformed line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dapper-universe.list (dist parse)
[05:17] <CorpseFeeder> E: Unable to lock the list directory"
[05:17] <bruenig> netdu1, the fonts are always ugly
[05:17] <punkforpez> netdu1 whats your setting for font smoothing in the control center?
[05:17] <effie_jayx> I find drapper very pretty
[05:17] <BryanJK> woops, im back
[05:17] <BryanJK> what where you saying about the terminal and mounting?
[05:17] <effie_jayx> BryanJK:  we thought you had gotten embarrased
[05:17] <Jfrench> I installed edgy last night, most things load faster
[05:17] <BryanJK> actually
[05:17] <BryanJK> i accidently locked my system
[05:17] <BryanJK> rofl
[05:18] <effie_jayx> Jfrench:   yea?
[05:18] <bruenig> I found edgy to be much slower but that is mainly because of firefox and its scrolling problem
[05:18] <effie_jayx> Jfrench:   I have a very old laptop... maybe whtn I get my new one
[05:18] <BryanJK> tsk tsk, back to mounting
[05:18] <nomasteryoda|w> nice
[05:18] <BryanJK> lol
[05:18] <netdu1> punkforpez, "setting for font smoothing" System > Preferences > ???
[05:18] <nomasteryoda|w> open terminal... under Applications, Accessories, Terminal
[05:18] <BryanJK> Done
[05:19] <nomasteryoda|w> type mount
[05:19] <nomasteryoda|w> see what is listed
[05:19] <Jfrench> effie_jayx: most things do, others just load the same as they did in dapper, Memory usage has gone down on a few apps to
[05:19] <punkforpez> netdu1 i think it's just under Fonts? i use fluxbox.. trying to do it from memory
[05:19] <nomasteryoda|w> post into pastebin
[05:19] <CorpseFeeder> i broke synaptic in edgy while messing with repository settings.. ;( how do I fix it back to normal?
[05:19] <BryanJK> Paste into here?
[05:19] <distantbody> On another note, has anyone had any problems With Edgy? I sure did when I installed it yesterday, that why I decided to upgrade through 6.06.1. When I did a fresh install of Edgy, It simply refused to install on an ext3 partition, so I had to forgo journaling and install it on an ext2 partition,
[05:19] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: fix your repository settings (pastebin them)
[05:19] <spanglesontoast> erm my x server says failed to load module glcore
[05:19] <spanglesontoast> but when I run apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base
[05:19] <spanglesontoast> it says I cannot find the dir
[05:20] <morphish> anyone here ask about SiS an dri earlier? (doubtful he is here, but i noticed i had the tab open actually)
[05:20] <godmachine81> BryanJK:: you need help mounting?
[05:20] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, no please don;t
[05:20] <BryanJK> nomasteryoda is helping..
[05:20] <godmachine81> alright
[05:20] <nomasteryoda|w> http://rafb.net or pastebin
[05:20] <mike-e> hi i need to mount a second drive, how can i find the mounting point for it in ubuntu?
[05:20] <BryanJK> oh, sorry
[05:20] <nomasteryoda|w> godmachine81, you can help too
[05:20] <bluefox83> mike-e, you create it
[05:20] <godmachine81> ahh
[05:20] <nomasteryoda|w> more eyes, fingers, etc.
[05:20] <godmachine81> anybody knows im of no help
[05:20] <bruenig> mike-e, wherever you want it
[05:21] <godmachine81> haha
[05:21] <nomasteryoda|w> LOL you so funny godmachine81
[05:21] <BryanJK> http://rafb.net/paste/results/VIzLji67.html
[05:21] <CorpseFeeder> how do I pastebin settings when they are in a window? I didn't think I could put a screenshot in pastebin. Do you mean you want to see my source.list file?
[05:21] <mike-e> i'm sorry, the device name etc, like /dev/hda2 etc
[05:21] <spanglesontoast> help me please :P
[05:21] <godmachine81> ill help mike-e ok nomasteryoda|w
[05:21] <nomasteryoda|w> 10-4
[05:21] <godmachine81> mike-e:: is this a new install or have you previously had that partition mounted?
[05:21] <bruenig> CorpseFeeder, yeah, your sources.list is implicated as being the problem from that gui error prompt. Therefore pastebin your sources.list
[05:22] <mike-e> new install, i just need to remember the app that helps check the mounting address so i can add it to fstab
[05:22] <kodat> o sheit.i deleted my wireless from network settings..anyone know how i can bring it back up
[05:22] <AkumAPRIME> ok, so, I buggered my xorg.conf to the point where now, when I rebootk, I get an ugly weird error screen that goes nowhere. Im booting from a live cd. How can I restore a backup that I have so I can continue to mess with ubuntu?
[05:22] <distantbody> mike-e: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:22] <mike-e> it's not a windows partition.
[05:22] <BryanJK> nomasteryoda: did you get the paste from terminal
[05:22] <godmachine81> mike-e:: just see if you have anything in /media/
[05:22] <godmachine81> do ls /media
[05:23] <mike-e> just cdrom.
[05:23] <morphish> ubuntu ever eat an existing grub? or windows?
[05:23] <distantbody> mike-e: Don't worry about the name, It applies universally
[05:23] <godmachine81> mike-e:: do sudo mkdir /media/windows
[05:23] <jaek> so... does edge have the beta nvidia drivers packaged and ready to use out of the box?
[05:23] <nomasteryoda|w> hang on BryanJK ... nope
[05:23] <BryanJK> http://rafb.net/paste/results/VIzLji67.html
[05:23] <godmachine81> mike-e:: then do sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /media/windows
[05:23] <godmachine81> then ls /media/windows
[05:23] <godmachine81> and see if it shows up right
[05:23] <mike-e> it's not a freakin windows partition
[05:23] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: correct, pastebin your sources.list
[05:23] <godmachine81> oh
[05:24] <mike-e> it's an ext3 drive
[05:24] <godmachine81> well what is it?
[05:24] <mike-e> jesus
[05:24] <godmachine81> lol
[05:24] <AkumAPRIME> lool
[05:24] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: all the synaptic settings is is a GUI to the sources.list
[05:24] <phire> I need help getting this cd writer to work, It won't detect blank cd's
[05:24] <bruenig> mike-e, call it /media/hda2, or /media/itsnotafreakingwindowspartition
[05:24] <mcrandello> Oh my god it has taken half an hour to navigate to the toshiba download page to try to get the wireless card drivers
[05:24] <j-swim> hey folks, wondering if anyone has installed gfxboot?
[05:24] <godmachine81> ok.. sudo mkdir /media/linux2
[05:24] <j-swim> and a theme?
[05:24] <godmachine81> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /media/linux2
[05:24] <godmachine81> just use the appropriate naming conventions
[05:24] <mcrandello> at least ndiswrapper is almost done dl'ing, started that about the same time
[05:24] <AkumAPRIME> does anyone know know how I might restore an xorg.conf file that I have backed up while using a live cd?
[05:25] <AkumAPRIME> or some other means
[05:25] <spanglesontoast> can someone please help me
[05:25] <BryanJK> how much faster is running ubuntu from disc, compared to hardrive?
[05:25] <spanglesontoast> trying to work out why x doesn't want to run
[05:25] <effie_jayx> Question.,.. I over heard the next release of UBUNTU will have Autopackaging... is it true???
[05:25] <distantbody> Does Edgy have some problem installing to ext3 partitions? It did for me...
[05:25] <Eleaf> slower BryanJK
[05:25] <j-swim> do I need to install grub-gfxboot or just gfxboot and gfxboot-theme-ubuntu that are both in repos?
[05:25] <godmachine81> BryanJK:: faster from disc?
[05:25] <bruenig> AkumAPRIME, you would need to mount the drive, and then replace it
[05:25] <godmachine81> BryanJK:: what are you smokin bro?
[05:25] <BryanJK> Its fast
[05:25] <BryanJK> but webpages are Slow
[05:25] <CorpseFeeder> i pastebinned it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28770/
[05:25] <godmachine81> BryanJK:: hard drive = tons faster than cd/dvd
[05:25] <DPackrat> I'm having a problem with DMA not being enabled on one of my drives
[05:25] <BryanJK> as in: take forever to render
[05:25] <BryanJK> ok
[05:26] <BryanJK> I really like the 4 desktops
[05:26] <BryanJK> Alot better than Windows
[05:26] <godmachine81> ok
[05:26] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: what's broken in it?
[05:26] <godmachine81> BryanJK:: virtual desktops have been around for 10 + yrs
[05:26] <godmachine81> ;)
[05:26] <BryanJK> Well
[05:26] <BryanJK> im just to lazy to use them
[05:26] <VigilantGambit> I get the following error when trying to play N: ./n_v14: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:26] <CorpseFeeder> it is doing this do me...
[05:26] <CorpseFeeder> E: Malformed line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dapper-universe.list (dist parse)
[05:26] <CorpseFeeder> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:27] <netdu1> punkforpez, here my font smoothing settings http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=281036567&size=o
[05:27] <bruenig> AkumAPRIME, why are you replacing it with the live cd. Why don't you replace it in the command prompt so you won't have to mount and such
[05:27] <BryanJK> hmm
[05:27] <earl_> i have a question for anyone who is a firefox expert... is it possible to use the same mozilla profile across two different OSes?
[05:27] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, you can have 16 virtual desktops
[05:27] <VigilantGambit> the game can be found here if anyone would like to try to figure out my problem: http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/n_v1linux.tar.gz
[05:27] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: what's in that file?
[05:27] <BryanJK> I know
[05:27] <BryanJK> i just said it was neat
[05:27] <godmachine81> CorpseFeeder:: what are you using? synaptic?
[05:27] <mcrandello> earl_, for the most partI think you can
[05:27] <earl_> for the most part?
[05:27] <bruenig> VigilantGambit, what problem are you having with it?
[05:27] <distantbody> earl: you can share bookmarks, but nothing else...
[05:27] <CorpseFeeder> i am using synaptic and it is giving me that error.
[05:27] <BryanJK> nomasteryoda, will you help me mount my drives =l or are you still working on it
[05:28] <VigilantGambit> bruenig, it's an executable
[05:28] <earl_> oh... disappointing.
[05:28] <VigilantGambit> but if I double click it, nothing happens
[05:28] <CorpseFeeder> if I click ok on the error synaptic just exits
[05:28] <VigilantGambit> if I right click and click open, nothing happens
[05:28] <AkumAPRIME> hey, how do I mount my HDD using a live cd?
[05:28] <bruenig> VigilantGambit, open a terminal and cd into the directory and do ./whatever
[05:28] <esaym> earl, what do you mean by profiles?  I have the same bookmarks in both my windows and linux firefox if that is what you mean
[05:28] <mcrandello> I was under the impression that the xpi files were pretty much cross platform
[05:28] <VigilantGambit> if I try running it in the terminal I get that error
[05:28] <esaym> oh, n/m
[05:28] <distantbody> earl_: ...Unless  two two OS's are the same
[05:28] <AkumAPRIME> bruenig: could you explain more?
[05:29] <spanglesontoast> please someone help me
[05:29] <spanglesontoast> in the fonts dir it says these a misc directory
[05:29] <bruenig> AkumAPRIME, can you boot into the console (the black and white command prompt)?
[05:29] <godmachine81> spanglesontoast:: whats up?
[05:29] <spanglesontoast> but it seems to not install properly
[05:29] <babo> anyone know how to show the message headers in pine ?
[05:29] <spanglesontoast> trying to get the x server working
[05:29] <nomasteryoda|w> CorpseFeeder, then use the command line dude... apt-get update, apt-get install, etc.
[05:29] <spanglesontoast> complains about missing the default fixed font
[05:29] <BryanJK> =/
[05:29] <j-swim> do I need to install grub-gfxboot or just gfxboot and gfxboot-theme-ubuntu that are both in repos?
[05:29] <spanglesontoast> but when I try to reinstall the xfonts-base
[05:29] <godmachine81> spanglesontoast:: basebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf plz
[05:29] <godmachine81> if you can
[05:30] <godmachine81> pastebin*
[05:30] <punkforpez> netdu1 have you tried mucking about with different options there? like changing to subpixel smoothing? do all the results look identical?
[05:30] <AkumAPRIME> bruenig: after the error message, it drops me to a test line, but it's not the console. How can I boot do the console?
[05:30] <BryanJK> Will someone help me mount my hardrives via Live disk to install?
[05:30] <AkumAPRIME> test == text
[05:30] <spanglesontoast> well I would but I can't use an ftp
[05:30] <spanglesontoast> or lynx
[05:30] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, you don't need them mounted
[05:30] <bruenig> AkumAPRIME, are you in the live cd?
[05:30] <AkumAPRIME> yes
[05:30] <nomasteryoda|w> that is the issue
[05:30] <BryanJK> You said they did =/
[05:30] <spanglesontoast> it is a filed bug
[05:30] <BryanJK> Because it was crashing
[05:31] <orion_> leaving, thanks for the help
[05:31] <spanglesontoast> but when you try to reinstall the xfonts-base
[05:31] <Flats> Hello, I just installed XMMS on a fairly new ubuntu install when I try to play music, It's all static and very bad.  My sound card was detected properly as an SB Live CT4780.  ANy ideas what I should do?
[05:31] <spanglesontoast> it doesn't instal them properly
[05:31] <BryanJK> then you said to go into Terminal -> Mount
[05:31] <tyler_d> problems installing mplayer... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28773/
[05:31] <babo> is there anyway to select all the text on the page in terminal pine ?
[05:31] <netdu1> punkforpez, yes I did
[05:31] <godmachine81> spanglesontoast:: did you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[05:31] <spanglesontoast> I'll try couldn't remember what it was called in ubuntu
[05:31] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, the mount command would show you just what is mounted
[05:32] <BryanJK> oh
[05:32] <cyborg> hi all
[05:32] <bruenig> AkumAPRIME, ok, what is the partition that your xorg.conf is on?
[05:32] <CorpseFeeder> i just want to know how to put my sources.list file back to normal...
[05:32] <j-swim> anyone??
[05:32] <AkumAPRIME> hda1 I believe, not 100%
[05:32] <BryanJK> Will you help me do the Custom Partitions then?
[05:32] <nomasteryoda|w> if you rebooted into the installer... live mode. then you should see the install icon... now start it and install onto the partition you want
[05:32] <spanglesontoast> it says it's broken or not installed
[05:32] <nomasteryoda|w> sure
[05:32] <AkumAPRIME> bruenig: hda1 I believe, not 100%
[05:32] <BryanJK> I have 3 partitions
[05:32] <nomasteryoda|w> just pick the '/dev/hda1' if that is what you need to be root
[05:32] <godmachine81> AkumAPRIME:: do sudo fdisk -l
[05:32] <keleus> How can i get the "Screen Resolution Preferences" to show all the modes I've set in xorg.conf? for example... it won't let me use anything higher than 1024x768
[05:33] <BryanJK> Which commands do i need to set?
[05:33] <BryanJK> Mount Points
[05:33] <godmachine81> jeez im sorry guys
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, then good... the last one is the one you want to save, right? ... if so then make sure it is
[05:33] <CorpseFeeder> some of the boxes in synaptic's repository settings had a horizontal line through them and I changed those to ticks.. now I can't put them back how they were and synaptic won't run ;(
[05:33] <godmachine81> but this is too crowded in here
[05:33] <AkumAPRIME> godmachine81: done. I see a list of disks
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> not installed onto ... nope.
[05:33] <BryanJK> hmm
[05:33] <godmachine81> AkumAPRIME:: which ones say ext3
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> just start up the installer, choose Custom partitoning
[05:33] <BryanJK> done
[05:33] <BryanJK> im at Prepare Mouse Points
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[05:33] <bruenig> AkumAPRIME, open up a terminal and make the mount directory "mkdir bruenig" then mount your drive "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 ~/bruenig"
[05:34] <spanglesontoast> hmm what shall I do now god ?
[05:34] <BryanJK> I have 1 20gb partion, 1 20 gb partition, and 1 100gb partition
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> well, if the partitions are still there, then you are good to go. Set first one as "/" i.e. root
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> last one is data
[05:34] <spanglesontoast> is there any way I Can force an install of the dapper xorg ?
[05:34] <godmachine81> bruenig:: why would he name his mount point after you?
[05:34] <godmachine81> lol
[05:34] <BryanJK> Ok
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> resized the 2nd one and make a swap file BryanJK ...
[05:34] <bruenig> godmachine81, it is in the live cd, he is just replacing his xorg with a backup he made, calm down
[05:34] <BryanJK> just "swap"?
[05:34] <godmachine81> sheeze
[05:34] <distantbody> keleus: log out, and then press ALT+CTRL+BACKSPACE (wich restarts X)
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, resized for 2x the ram you have
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> no
[05:35] <phire> I need help getting this cd writer to work, It won't detect blank cd's
[05:35] <BryanJK> no/
[05:35] <godmachine81> do you ppl ever check the wiki
[05:35] <keleus> distantbody, i have restarted since adding the resolution
[05:35] <Flats> Hello, I just installed XMMS on a fairly new ubuntu install when I try to play music, It's all static and very bad.  My sound card was detected properly as an SB Live CT4780.  ANy ideas what I should do?
[05:35] <ironfrost> hi - I installed EasyUbuntu but when I click on the icon nothing happens
[05:35] <godmachine81> ironfrost:: what release you using ?
[05:35] <godmachine81> dapper or edgy?
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, downsize that partition to just say 2GB if you have 1GB ram or intend on having that much
[05:35] <BryanJK> I have "swap" "/" "/home" "/boot" "/usr" "/var"
[05:35] <ironfrost> and when I try to run it from the terminal it tells me python: can't open file './easyubuntu.in': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory
[05:35] <keleus> distantbody, i should mention it lists 832x624, which is NOT in my xorg.conf
[05:35] <ironfrost> godmachine - edgy
[05:35] <BryanJK> Ok
[05:35] <AkumAPRIME> bruenig: ty, copying backup now.see you soon :) to mess it up all over again, bt, now I know how to do this so cool!
[05:35] <ironfrost> I just installed it yesterday, from scratch
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, .... then make another partition for say your /home partition...
[05:36] <godmachine81> ironfrost:: easyubuntu hasnt been released for edgy
[05:36] <BryanJK> Just a question
[05:36] <BryanJK> Will Wine work on Ubuntu?
[05:36] <DPackrat> Is anyone having problems with slower hard drive transfers in Edgy?
[05:36] <rowanjl> epiphany complains about libgtkembedmoz.so being missing, but there are two instances of the file, anyone know how to make epiphany see them?
[05:36] <ironfrost> ah, that would explain things
[05:36] <bruenig> AkumAPRIME, alright good thing
[05:36] <godmachine81> ironfrost:: i did rewrite it though
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> you can label the last one as say, "/media/data" if you like
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> sure
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> apt-get install wine ....
[05:36] <BryanJK> Wait
[05:36] <godmachine81> ironfrost:: i have a rewrite of the easyubuntu to work with edgy
[05:36] <distantbody> keleus: Try this command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:36] <godmachine81> customized to work
[05:36] <godmachine81> if you want it pm me
[05:36] <BryanJK>  /media /data?
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> er, nope
[05:37] <ironfrost> OK, I need to register first, but Il do that
[05:37] <keleus> distantbody, its not the X config i think. Where might "Screen Resolution Preferences" (for lack of a better name) store settings?
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> the last partiton is your data drive, right?
[05:37] <godmachine81> ironfrost:: ok
[05:37] <BryanJK> It has 4
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, so what you can do is label it as /media/data
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[05:37] <BryanJK> and one is a Remoavble Drive
[05:37] <earl_> for the record. i just tried switching my linux firefox to use my windows firefox profile. works perfectly.
[05:37] <earl_> all my extensions and such too
[05:37] <keleus> distantbody, also might be important. Its a laptop hooked up to a CRT. i never use the LCD panel. the LCD has a max of 1024
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> ignore the removable drive for now
[05:37] <earl_> firefox 2 FTW
[05:37] <distantbody> keleus: All that information is strored in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:37] <bruenig> VigilantGambit, to run that game, you need to install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 "sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2"
[05:38] <BryanJK> Can I do this without editing my partitions?
[05:38] <keleus> distantbody,                 Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[05:38] <j-swim> do I need to install grub-gfxboot or just gfxboot and gfxboot-theme-ubuntu that are both in repos?
[05:38] <nomasteryoda|w> er, you should resize the middle one for a swap and a home
[05:38] <BryanJK> Home?
[05:38] <nomasteryoda|w> yup
[05:38] <AkumAPRIME> @#$% all my backups look similar, hmmm
[05:38] <AkumAPRIME> bad news
[05:38] <BryanJK> Such as... the directory of Ubuntu
[05:38] <BryanJK> or another os..
[05:38] <nomasteryoda|w> i always make a /home for data... then i can just upgrade the ubuntu later
[05:38] <nomasteryoda|w> sure
[05:38] <BryanJK> Hmm
[05:39] <nomasteryoda|w> er, nope.. /home is for ubuntu data
[05:39] <keleus> distantbody, gnome is allowing me to choose: "832x624", "640x480", "800x600", "1024x768" in that order
[05:39] <BryanJK> Oh it is
[05:39] <VigilantGambit> bruenig, I'll try that, thanks
[05:39] <BryanJK> what is "/" for
[05:39] <nomasteryoda|w> for your user accounts BryanJK
[05:39] <nomasteryoda|w> "/ is for the system
[05:39] <BryanJK> ok
[05:39] <BryanJK> Oh
[05:39] <BryanJK> So..
[05:39] <nomasteryoda|w> =D ...
[05:39] <distantbody> keleus: If you use the command is suggested, you will get to set what reolutions that you want to be available.
[05:40] <BryanJK> And I have to reformat "/"?
[05:40] <keleus> distantbody, all that will do is recreate my xorg.conf, that xorg.conf is not the problem
[05:40] <BryanJK> Ok
[05:40] <BryanJK> Lets see
[05:40] <BryanJK> Installing
[05:40] <BryanJK> 0%
[05:41] <BryanJK> hmm
[05:41] <distantbody> keleus: If you use the command it WILL let you choose what resolutions you want.
[05:41] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, did you format "/" and "/home"
[05:41] <Flannel> BryanJK:  http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html and http://www.secguru.com/files/cheatsheet/linux-file-structure.jpg  (the latter first) will give you a good rundown, if you're interested (ubuntu does a few things differently, but not anything major)
[05:41] <nomasteryoda|w> and "swap"?
[05:41] <BryanJK> "Go back to the menu and correct error: The test of swap space in partition #6 or SCSI (0,1,0) found uncorrected errors
[05:41] <nomasteryoda|w> Flannel, thanks for the links... that will help...
[05:41] <keleus> distantbody, the resolutions i want are already set in xorg.conf. The gnome configuration tools is ignoring them
[05:42] <TGeeK> Hi all, Edgy looks great! but there is one problem that carried over, at least for me.  My resolutions work with the "NV" driver, but only 1024x768 works with the "Nvidia" driver
[05:42] <BryanJK> err
[05:42] <TGeeK> can't find anything about this on the boards
[05:42] <Flats> what's the command to set permissions on a hidden file?  .dmrc
[05:42] <BryanJK> it crashed again
[05:42] <Flannel> Flats: just like normal files
[05:43] <Flats> chmod 644 .dmrc
[05:43] <Flats> like that?
[05:43] <bawnpa> what card is it TGeeK?
[05:43] <Flannel> Flats: that would work, yeah
[05:43] <keleus> Where does Gnome's "Screen Resolution Preferences" get it's choices from? It's not pulling them from xorg.conf
[05:43] <TGeeK> Nvidia GeForce 40 MX
[05:43] <TGeeK> 440
[05:44] <keleus> TGeeK, good card for the age
[05:44] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, if you do not format the installer paritions... say "/", "/home"  (if it is empty) and swap then you will fail
[05:44] <nomasteryoda|w> every time
[05:44] <BryanJK> I check REFORMAT
[05:44] <keleus> TGeeK, what do you want to know? (i used to have one)
[05:44] <BryanJK> but it just crashes
[05:44] <BryanJK> when I go to install
[05:44] <BryanJK> it hits like 20% and poof its gone
[05:44] <AkumAPRIME> bruenig: I tried save the xorg.conf, and it says it can't, becuase its a read only file. Any idea on a fix for this?
[05:44] <TGeeK> I want to use the Nvidia driver at 2048x1024, but can't seem to find a way to do it
[05:44] <distantbody> keleus: I've had that prob too, I've found that alternative the driver option from "nvidia" to the default "nv" made the custom options work, so try the same for your graphics chip.
[05:44] <keleus> BryanJK, try formatting them in the console first? then choosing not to format on the installer?
[05:45] <BryanJK> In the console eh
[05:45] <bruenig> AkumAPRIME, do it from the command prompt and use sudo
[05:45] <keleus> distantbody, heh, im using "ati"
[05:45] <AkumAPRIME> ah, ty br
[05:45] <AkumAPRIME> hmm.. I may have a question in a sec
[05:45] <keleus> its an ATI, but not supported by anything but ati and vga
[05:45] <BryanJK> how do I do it in the console?
[05:45] <phire> when I go "cdrdao disk-info" it says WARNING: Unit not ready, still trying...x10, ERROR: Unit not ready, giving up. ERROR: Cannot setup device /dev/cdrw. The drive doesn't spin up or anything
[05:45] <BryanJK>  /format ..?
[05:45] <distantbody> keleus: Is that the default?
[05:45] <Flannel> !tell tyler_d about multiverse
[05:45] <CorpseFeeder> if there is nothing wrong with my sources.list... why won't synaptic run? here is all the errors I get - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28778/
[05:46] <keleus> distantbody, yes, "ati"
[05:46] <keleus> distantbody, used that on my earlier kubuntu install, and on almost every other distro i've used.
[05:46] <keleus> distantbody, it once worked with 'radeon' but I haven't tried it since admittantly
[05:46] <keleus> distantbody, its a laptop ATI radeon IGP (crap)
[05:47] <BryanJK> Ok
[05:47] <BryanJK> Im gonna try it Again...
[05:47] <keleus> BryanJK, what partitions?
[05:47] <BryanJK> What do you mean
[05:47] <distantbody> keleus: Well now is a good time to say that ATI is not, um, linux friendly :-P
[05:47] <bawnpa> TGeeK, what error does it give?  I know X will refuse to run in hardware acceleraterated if the res is too high, but i'd be surprised if geforce 440 can not do better than 1024x768. 2048x1024 sounds really high though and very strange aspect ratio
[05:47] <keleus> BryanJK, man mkfs
[05:47] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, no.. format as in make a file system therein... like ext3... the one to use at the moment for "/" and "/home"
[05:47] <BryanJK> The attempt to mount a file system with type ntfs in SCSI1 (0,1,0), partition #5 (sda) at /home failed.
[05:47] <keleus> distantbody, isn't ati the open-source driver included with X?
[05:47] <Flats> So no audio experts here huh?
[05:47] <BryanJK> ok
[05:48] <keleus> distantbody, BTW this card hardly works in windows either :P
[05:48] <keleus> i say card.
[05:48] <crimsun> Flats: busy atm, check back in 20 minutes.
[05:48] <keleus> its built into the damn thing
[05:48] <Flats> hehe np thanks
[05:48] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, no ... you can't mount the ntfs partiton as /home.... if you have data there, then save it... and wipe the partition if you need it for the install
[05:48] <BryanJK> How do I wipe it?
[05:48] <BryanJK> Format?
[05:48] <keleus> BryanJK, yes, but its not called format
[05:48] <nomasteryoda|w> ah, now he gets it
[05:48] <user-land> is someone here using aMule ?
[05:48] <BryanJK> Theres nothing in it execpt a plain XP install
[05:48] <keleus> BryanJK, thats a windows-world command
[05:48] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[05:48] <BryanJK> lol >__>
[05:49] <intofar> Hi I just took the plunge and installed edgy. Every thing works well expect my wireless which worked well under Dapper. It seems that I can't set it up for 128 bit encryption for the only option I'm given is hexadecimal. I'm using a Pro wireless 2200bg. Anyone know what's going on?
[05:49] <TGeeK> I'm not getting any errors  The gnome resolution manager no longer lists 2048x1024 as a viable resolution when using the nvidia driver
[05:49] <robotdevl> Flats: what's the problem?
[05:49] <nomasteryoda|w> keleus, yes i was trying to make it "simple"
[05:49] <nomasteryoda|w> !format
[05:49] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:49] <BryanJK> So...
[05:49] <BryanJK> How do I "wipe" it
[05:49] <j-swim> do I need to install grub-gfxboot or just gfxboot and gfxboot-theme-ubuntu that are both in repos?
[05:49] <TGeeK> if I change my xorg.conf to the "nv" driver.   everything works
[05:49] <keleus> TGeeK, huh, i have some integrated ATI that wont let me pick 1280x1024 even though it worked fine in KDE...
[05:49] <distantbody> keleus: I don't know...
[05:49] <variant> TGeeK: use nvidia-settings
[05:49] <nomasteryoda|w> the gparted tool on the disk will do it for you... be careful of your 100gb part though
[05:49] <InnerF|RE> anyone figured out how to get limewire to use dash?
[05:49] <keleus> TGeeK, i vote it's a problem with the Gnome resolution thingy
[05:50] <keleus> damn user-friendlyness. I would rather it just use what xorg wants to use.
[05:50] <BryanJK> How do I get to it
[05:50] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, click System, Administration, Gnome Partiton Editor
[05:50] <BryanJK> Applications?
[05:50] <BryanJK> k
[05:50] <nomasteryoda|w> on the live cd it is
[05:50] <CorpseFeeder> please.. how do I get package manager back to normal? anyone? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28778/
[05:50] <TGeeK> no, it's not with the gnome thingy, it just reads the xorg.conf.  I believe it's with the driver
[05:50] <nomasteryoda|w> again, be careful
[05:51] <variant> BryanJK: just run the installer and choose to wipe the entire disk.. that is what you want right?
[05:51] <VigilantGambit> bruenig, when I start the game, it says hit spacebar to begin
[05:51] <BryanJK> No
[05:51] <VigilantGambit> but hitting the spacebar does nothing
[05:51] <BryanJK> Just 2 partitions of 3
[05:51] <variant> BryanJK: what do you want then?
[05:51] <bruenig> VigilantGambit, try shift
[05:51] <hackel_> I'm in the middle of upgrading dapper to edgy, and now my password no longer works to unlock my screensaver--has anyone else experienced this?  It works fine from a console...
[05:51] <variant> BryanJK: you want to keep windows?
[05:51] <BryanJK> nope
[05:51] <VigilantGambit> that doesn't work either
[05:51] <TGeeK> my issue is low priority right now.  I'll do some more searching.  Have a nice night all
[05:52] <BryanJK> I want to Install Ubuntu to my Hardrive
[05:52] <bruenig> VigilantGambit, did you go into the controls?
[05:52] <BryanJK> but I keep having like 5000 issues
[05:52] <VigilantGambit> nope
[05:52] <bruenig> VigilantGambit, go into the controls and try to see what is up. I deleted it after I found the dependency
[05:52] <variant> hackel_: in a console run killall xscreensaver as root.. or whatever hte actual xscreensaver binary is called
[05:52] <nomasteryoda|w> BryanJK, if you've ever worked with Partition magic, then this works the same way... only better and freeer
[05:52] <mistform> herro
[05:52] <BryanJK> Omg
[05:52] <VigilantGambit> it's not in controls
[05:52] <mistform> anyone have a chess program???
[05:52] <BryanJK> Lol freeer
[05:52] <nomasteryoda|w> =D
[05:52] <mistform> I'm bored and on high amounts of cough syrup
[05:52] <VigilantGambit> I mean, space does nothing except start the level
[05:52] <hackel_> variant: I know I can do that, but why is it having that trouble?  I don't want it to kill the X session while I'm upgrading...
[05:52] <variant> BryanJK: what is the actual problem?
[05:53] <BryanJK> I cant install ubuntu
[05:53] <BryanJK> from the Live CD
[05:53] <variant> BryanJK: for what reason?
[05:53] <robotdevl> CorpseFeeder: the error refers to: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dapper-universe.list  have you taken a look at that file?
[05:53] <BryanJK> it crashes at 20% =/
[05:53] <ubuntugrrrr> Hello there.
[05:53] <variant> BryanJK: probably a dodgey install disk, download it again and burn a new one
[05:53] <cyborg> hingrrrrr
[05:53] <BryanJK> gs
[05:54] <BryanJK> hmm
[05:54] <ubuntugrrrr> I am very new at Linux, and I am trying to do my best at reading the documentation available, but I am still having some main issues that I am unable to resolve.
[05:54] <BryanJK> I have no more blank discs LOL
[05:54] <variant> BryanJK: and this time test to make sure its a good copy :)
[05:54] <variant> BryanJK: unlucky
[05:54] <cyborg> me to
[05:54] <variant> BryanJK: run the disk tester when you first boot the live cd
[05:54] <BryanJK> Hmm
[05:54] <variant> BryanJK: in the boot options
[05:54] <BryanJK> the last time i did it went crazy
[05:54] <variant> BryanJK: there is your problem then
[05:54] <BryanJK> it like frozen and the progress bar went backwards and forwards and everywhich way
[05:55] <bruenig> VigilantGambit, I just tried the game. You use space to start the level. The arrows to move and shift to jump.
[05:55] <ubuntugrrrr> Could anyone assist me in downloading and installing Frostwire or Limewire?  I have attempted to use Synaptic to find it but I've had no luck.
[05:55] <VigilantGambit> could it be my flash player?
[05:55] <VigilantGambit> I'm using version 9
[05:55] <CorpseFeeder> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28780/ is the contents of that file.
[05:55] <BryanJK> Here, anyone want to get on my remote desktop? =/
[05:55] <bruenig> VigilantGambit, also a little trick. Play music while you are starting it so that it doesn't lag
[05:55] <ubuntugrrrr> :/
[05:55] <variant> BryanJK: yeah sure
[05:56] <BryanJK> just a sec
[05:56] <BryanJK> pm?
[05:56] <VigilantGambit> I read about that
[05:56] <variant> BryanJK: go ahead
[05:56] <bruenig> VigilantGambit, are you sure? mine uses macromedia flash player 6. I tried to use the flash 9 standalone but it only wants flash movies for whatever reason
[05:56] <ubuntugrrrr> Is it that complicated?
[05:56] <BryanJK> hmm
[05:56] <ubuntugrrrr> Or am I that stupid :/
[05:56] <BryanJK> *trys
[05:56] <Flannel> !tell ubuntugrrrr about frostwire
[05:56] <ubuntugrrrr> thanks!
[05:56] <BryanJK> you pm me
[05:56] <BryanJK> i cant get it to open
[05:56] <variant> BryanJK: you need to be registered
[05:56] <cyborg> only 1 mount on linux 12 hours on ubuntu :))
[05:56] <BryanJK> tsk tsk tsk
[05:57] <VigilantGambit> mine says 6 too
[05:57] <bruenig> VigilantGambit, ok so it should be good to go
[05:57] <VigilantGambit> I was just thinking that maybe the fact that I have 9 beta installed could be messing up the game somehow
[05:57] <CorpseFeeder> what is wrong with line 2 in my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dapper-universe.list file?
[05:57] <VigilantGambit> because all of the other keys seem to work fine
[05:57] <bruenig> VigilantGambit, I have 9 beta installed, both the standalone and the plugin and it works fine
[05:57] <variant> CorpseFeeder: we can't see your file so how should we know?
[05:57] <ubuntugrrrr> I appreciate that Flannel, but I'm going to tell ya now, I cannot play any media yet. Anytime I try to, totem tells me that I don't have the codecs needed.
[05:57] <CorpseFeeder> this file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28780/
[05:57] <VigilantGambit> ugh
[05:57] <bruenig> VigilantGambit, start the game over and go into the configure
[05:57] <ubuntugrrrr> But it's a start :)
[05:57] <BryanJK> and
[05:58] <ubuntugrrrr> I'll go through this guide and come back here when I'm done.
[05:58] <BryanJK> what command is register on this server?
[05:58] <ubuntugrrrr> Or if I run into a wall.
[05:58] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: you need to specify the components, main universe multiverse etc.
[05:58] <Flannel> !tell ubuntugrrrr about codecs
[05:58] <Flannel> ubuntugrrrr: that page has instructions on all that too
[05:58] <jrib> ubotu: tell CorpseFeeder about easysource
[05:58] <bdragonmsl> just out of curiosity, could I use a x86 edgy release and use a 64 bit processor and install amd 64 restricted modules on it?
[05:58] <j-swim> Anyone: is an upgrade from edgy rc to final ok? or should I still install fresh final?
[05:58] <variant> BryanJK: /msg nickserve register password
[05:58] <Flannel> j-swim: yeah, just normal package updates
[05:59] <bruenig> j-swim, should be fine
[05:59] <jrib> j-swim: it's ok, just dist-upgrade
[05:59] <variant> BryanJK: then /msg nickserve identify password
[05:59] <j-swim> cool thx
[05:59] <j-swim> does Anyone know how to use the gfxboot-theme-ubuntu package?
[05:59] <BryanJK> "NO SUCH NICK OR CHANNEL: nickserve"
[05:59] <variant> BryanJK: drop the "e"
[06:00] <BryanJK> 23:59:18) variant: BryanJK: then /msg nickserve
[06:00] <CorpseFeeder> source-o-matic does not appear to support edgy. any other ideas?
[06:00] <BryanJK> But ok =P
[06:00] <variant> BryanJK: odd
[06:00] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: just generate a dapper one and change dapper to edgy
[06:00] <BryanJK> K
[06:00] <CorpseFeeder> ok
[06:00] <BryanJK> im registered but the PM window wont open = l
[06:00] <VigilantGambit> er, bruenig, what now?
[06:00] <variant> BryanJK: nickserve must be down
[06:01] <bruenig> VigilantGambit, works fine here. I don't know what is wrong with yours.
[06:02] <Pelo> and not so fond of Edgy update either
[06:02] <bruenig> fresh install
[06:02] <bruenig> = great
[06:02] <spanglesontoast> I just need to get the fixed font then It'll run
[06:03] <compengi> do you have any mirrors that support resume ?
[06:03] <spanglesontoast> but for some reason it doesn't want to install properly
[06:03] <Pelo> which is why I'm in xp right now,  copying over my data so I have a back up
[06:03] <AkumAPRIME> brenig: I fouund a problem. When I sudo gedit /ect/X11/xorg.cong, its not editting the mounted one. What must I do to edit the mounted one?
[06:03] <oblib> I'm having a hard time getting my nvidia card to work. Can anyone help me? I have a 440 MX, and all I'm getting is a blank screen after updating to Edgy.
[06:03] <spanglesontoast> I was thinking of downloading edgy but I decided to just upgrade using apt
[06:03] <illovae> ohayo :)
[06:04] <laz45> Where can I get the linux-source-2.6.17-10?
[06:04] <spanglesontoast> same issue here oblib
[06:04] <chpo> illovae: hi!!
[06:04] <spanglesontoast> try reinstalling xfonts-base
[06:04] <illovae> chpo: ^^
[06:04] <oblib> spanglesontoast: on dapper or edgy?
[06:04] <spanglesontoast> edgy
[06:05] <AkumAPRIME>  bruenig: I fouund a problem. When I sudo gedit /ect/X11/xorg.cong, its not editting the mounted one. What must I do to edit the mounted one?
[06:05] <Zer0Ry0k0> How do I switch back to my Full Screen CounterStrike window after finally getting the Steam Game window out of the way?
[06:05] <Zer0Ry0k0> in WINE
[06:05] <draconpern> need help with compiling ndiswrapper
[06:05] <mistform> F-11?
[06:05] <draconpern> I am following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[06:05] <bruenig> AkumAPRIME, do sudo gedit ~/brueng/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:05] <illovae> laz45: with atp-get source ?
[06:05] <Zer0Ry0k0> F11 didn't do anything
[06:06] <illovae> yo mardi_soir
[06:06] <AkumAPRIME> ah, the ! ty
[06:06] <AkumAPRIME> ~
[06:06] <ubuntugrrrr> I've run into a problem with frostwire...
[06:06] <draconpern> and I am getting this message "Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build;"
[06:06] <oblib> spanglesontoast: I get 'warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory'
[06:06] <mardi_soir> illovae, no i ne me fais pas chier du tout
[06:06] <spanglesontoast> yup same here
[06:06] <ubuntugrrrr> it says it was setting it up
[06:06] <spanglesontoast> it's not installing properly
[06:06] <poningru> draconpern: install linux-headers
[06:06] <illovae> mardi_soir: in english please :)
[06:07] <laz45> illovae: I tried apt-get install linux-source-2.6.17-10 but it couldnt find it...
[06:07] <ubuntugrrrr> and now i have it in my menu under internet.. but when i doubleclick to start the program, it will not run...
[06:07] <spanglesontoast> otherwise i'd be using edgy
[06:07] <Zer0Ry0k0> How, in WINE, do I switch back to my Full Screen CounterStrike window after finally getting the Steam Game window out of the way?
[06:07] <bruenig> frostwire is in itself a problem
[06:07] <ubuntugrrrr> any idea on what might be the problem?
[06:07] <ubuntugrrrr> fehhh.....
[06:07] <CorpseFeeder> i generated a source.list using source-o-matic, which I pasted into my sources.list file, but it is still complaining about malformed line 2 in my universe.list file... any more suggestions?
[06:07] <mardi_soir> illovae, edgy in your ass !
[06:07] <ubuntugrrrr> then WHY are all these people telling me to get frostwire?!
[06:07] <poningru> !fr | mardi_soir
[06:07] <ubotu> mardi_soir: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:07] <oblib> spanglesontoast: for everyone, or are we just lucky?
[06:07] <bluefox83> wtf is universe.list?
[06:07] <illovae> mardi_soir: it's a help chan here, goto #troll for that :)
[06:07] <spanglesontoast> you call this luck... :(
[06:08] <poningru> !frostwire
[06:08] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:08] <ubuntugrrrr> I've been there.
[06:08] <ubuntugrrrr> i am looking at the installation guide...
[06:08] <CorpseFeeder> i don't know what universe.list is, but it has screwed up package manager so it won't run.
[06:08] <ubuntugrrrr> oh oh oh!!
[06:08] <ubuntugrrrr> I know whats wrong! I don't have java.. :/
[06:08] <ubuntugrrrr> brb.
[06:09] <bruenig> ubuntugrrrr, oh, I assumed you had java
[06:09] <bruenig> !info sun-java5-bin
[06:09] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 21811 kB, installed size 65084 kB
[06:09] <draconpern> poningru: I have already installed linux-headers already
[06:09] <illovae> !doomlegacy
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doomlegacy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <IYY> I'm trying to install libsdl1.2-dev on Edgy from the repos, and I get an error: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libsdl1.2-dev_1.2.10-3ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/aclocal/sdl.m4', which is also in package sdl-devel
[06:09] <Zer0Ry0k0> Anyone know where I could get some WINE bug support (Forum maybe) ?
[06:09] <IYY> what does this mean?
[06:09] <Flats> !alsa
[06:09] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:09] <Pelo> ubuntugrrrr , technicaly speaking ,  there is nothing wrong with not having java,  on the contrary
[06:09] <botxj> !vesa
[06:09] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[06:10] <draconpern> poningru: linux-headers-2.5.15-23.386 is already installed
[06:10] <Flannel> Zer0Ry0k0: #winehq
[06:10] <BryanJK> will anyone help me install ubuntu via Remote Desktop?
[06:10] <Zer0Ry0k0> thx
[06:10] <draconpern> and ndiswrapper still asks for this 'build' thing?
[06:10] <spanglesontoast> hang on
[06:10] <Flannel> Zer0Ry0k0: there might be some sort of forum at winehq.com too, I'm not too familiar
[06:10] <CorpseFeeder> anyone got any more ideas on how I can fix malformed line 2 in universe.list here ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28780/
[06:10] <draconpern> I also have linux-kernel-headers installed but that didn't help
[06:10] <spanglesontoast> where did you get your repos from
[06:10] <spanglesontoast> oblib
[06:10] <oblib> spanglesontoast: when I start up gdm and then look at the running processes, I see two instances of gdm and two of gdmopen -- do you see the same thing?
[06:11] <illovae> putain 6heures10
[06:11] <Zer0Ry0k0> Flannel: allright, thanks
[06:11] <oblib> spanglesontoast: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main restricted
[06:11] <illovae> oups sorry ::
[06:11] <spanglesontoast> only one repo ?
[06:11] <BryanJK> Will someone help me install Ubuntu over Remote Desktop?
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> CorpseFeeder: What do you mean universe.list?
[06:11] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: you need to add stuff after that, like... ' main'
[06:11] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: or maybe that one should be ' universe'
[06:11] <keleus> arg! why can't I use 1280x1024? xorg.conf is correct, and i tried doing the dpkg reconfigure... no change
[06:12] <oblib> spanglesontoast: not sure what you're looking for.  BTW please put my name in anything coming to me. Makes it easier to see.
[06:12] <CorpseFeeder> flannel: yes, but what do I add?
[06:12] <keleus> can I force the screen-resolution utility to display specific options? I dont care if gnome thinks i cant use them, i know I can
[06:12] <draconpern> what is "/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build"?
[06:12] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28782/
[06:12] <oblib> spanglesontoast: you want to see my whole sources.list, or what?
[06:13] <draconpern> which package provides "/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build"?
[06:13] <spanglesontoast> noes just wondering if I used the wrong one
[06:13] <ChrisNiemy> hi there! anyone knows any backgrounds, why the PLF ubuntu repository packages.freecontrib.org is down?
[06:13] <Pelo> do we have something newer/better then diskmounter for NTFS support ?
[06:13] <CorpseFeeder> aha I see.. I understand now.
[06:13] <Flannel> ChrisNiemy: you'd have to ask the PLF guys ;)
[06:13] <Pelo> not that tehre is something wrong with diskmounter,  but that was like 4 months ago
[06:13] <ChrisNiemy> Flannel: good idea :D just was asking if anybody already knows
[06:14] <BryanJK> will someone help me install ubuntu?
[06:14] <draconpern> BryanJK: like using vmware?
[06:14] <BryanJK> no
[06:14] <Lilandra> BryanJK i don't know how to do a remote desktop install?
[06:14] <crimsun> Flats: what's the issue?
[06:14] <spanglesontoast> brb ciggy oblib gonna work on this till work
[06:14] <BryanJK> hmm
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> ChrisNiemy: http://plf.zarb.org/
[06:14] <BryanJK> ss im frustrated
[06:14] <Pelo> BryanJK  what's the problem ?
[06:14] <draconpern> BryanJK: Remote Desktop like on windows?
[06:14] <BryanJK> No
[06:15] <BryanJK> I cant get Ubuntu to install from the Live CD
[06:15] <Pelo> BryanJK  where does it stop ?
[06:15] <BryanJK> Ussally around 20%
[06:15] <NineTeen67Comet> Will a grub boot cd work if grub is already installed on a hard drive? (I pulled the windows hard drive out, stuck mine in and installed ubuntu 6.10, followed this link http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD-ROM.html .. re-wrote the menu.list, plugged them all back in and rebooted off the cdrom .. I can use windows, but the second hard drive seems to error out via grub ..
[06:15] <Pelo> BryanJK  I mean during what step ?
[06:15] <Flannel> NineTeen67Comet: what error?
[06:15] <BryanJK> Installing it
[06:16] <BryanJK> Actually reformatting the partition(s) and copying to files
[06:16] <Flannel> !grub | NineTeen67Comet, this has some more info:
[06:16] <ubotu> NineTeen67Comet, this has some more info:: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:16] <wastrel> Trying to get fglrx working - wiki howto doesn't work .  /var/log/Xorg.0.log > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28783/    any help appreciated <3
[06:16] <ChrisNiemy> tonyarusso: it says that its down, but regarding to this site: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf is should be still online. mhm ok, will write an email to both ^^
[06:16] <CorpseFeeder> I got the list of packages back now, but now I get a new error - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28784/
[06:16] <NineTeen67Comet> Flannel: I get several different ones .. let me grab a hand full of my "coasters" and see .. lol
[06:16] <Lilandra> BryanJK have you tried the install cd?
[06:16] <BryanJK> Umm
[06:16] <BryanJK> The Live CD is the Install & Run CD
[06:16] <BryanJK> isnt it...?
[06:16] <Flannel> NineTeen67Comet: coasters?  Wait, this is booting from a liveCD that fails? or what?
[06:16] <BryanJK> I have an Install shortcut which has a setup for installing it to a hardisk
[06:17] <Pelo> BryanJK  yes
[06:17] <oblib> Help?  I just updated to Edgy, and I when I try to install xfonts-base, I get a warning about /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc not existing. Now here's the weird part. If I try to mkdir the dir, it says I can't with the same warning: mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc': No such file or directory
[06:17] <JoaoJoao> hello
[06:17] <Pelo> but I do it from a dvd so it might be that you need cd 2  possibly
[06:17] <draconpern> can someone tell me what "/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build" is?
[06:17] <NineTeen67Comet> Flannel: I would like to NOT touch the windows MBR, instead use a cdrom with grub on it to select with os I want (just like as if I had installed ubuntu with the ms hard drive hooked up)..
[06:17] <BryanJK> Its only 700mb
[06:17] <BryanJK> about the same as a cd..
[06:17] <draconpern> since I seem to be missing the file and I can't build ndiswrapper
[06:17] <BryanJK> why would it need a DVD?
[06:18] <Flannel> NineTeen67Comet: er... I'm confused.  So, whenever you want to boot ubuntu you have to reboot with a liveCD?
[06:18] <JoaoJoao> I installed Xgl using this howto: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[06:18] <wastrel> oblib:  you have to make each of the directories on the path individually - that's what the mkdir error is about.
[06:18] <Flannel> JoaoJoao: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL support
[06:18] <Pelo> BryanJK I don'T mean it that way
[06:18] <wastrel> oblib:  can't help with the package problem :]
[06:18] <JoaoJoao> okay thanks
[06:18] <Pelo> anyway, I'm off to bed, g'night folks
[06:18] <BryanJK> Install English -> Indiana Timezone -> English Keyboard -> Account Setup ->Partitions is where im at
[06:18] <draconpern> hum.. does anyone actually use ubuntu here?
[06:19] <NineTeen67Comet> Flannel: yeah kind of but ubuntu is on the second cd and the ubuntu live cd only has "boot from first hard drive" as a selection .. so I'm building a grub only cd (boot cd) to select the second hd ..
[06:19] <draconpern> can I get a copy of your /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build?
[06:19] <BryanJK> omg
[06:19] <Lilandra> draconpern: i don't use ubuntu-386 :-p
[06:19] <BryanJK> Will someone Help me install Ubuntu over Remote Desktop??
[06:19] <draconpern> Lilandra: hum.. so what do you use?
[06:19] <oblib> thanks wastrel, just figured that out. So I then made the directory, installed xfonts-base, and got the same warning...
[06:19] <Flannel> NineTeen67Comet: you might try the grub 'superdisk' listed on the recveringafterinstallingwindows wiki page, I believe it'll boot from the second HD
[06:20] <Lilandra> draconpern xubuntu-ppc :-)
[06:20] <Vaske_Car> Is there anybody interesed to develop a open source software with me?
[06:20] <oblib> Anyone else know about this xfonts-base problem?
[06:20] <Lilandra> What does it mean to install over Remote Desktop?
[06:20] <ajmitch> draconpern: sudo apt-get install linux-header-2.6.15-26-386
[06:20] <Lilandra> you mean install from another computer?
[06:21] <NineTeen67Comet> Flannel: yep, had that one, and it doesn't see it either .. that's why I'm asking if grub is already installed if it will still work .. or if I need to point it to my / directory instead of my /boot ..
[06:21] <Zer0Ry0k0> Remote Desktop is the windows build in way to remotely log in
[06:21] <spanglesontoast> back odlib
[06:21] <Zer0Ry0k0> build = built*
[06:21] <oblib> spanglesontoast: any new ideas?
[06:21] <Lilandra> yes! so, you can login remotely while installing ubuntu on another pc, Zer0R0k0?
[06:21] <draconpern> ajmitch: can't find package?
[06:21] <aSt3raL> is there a good customizing/theme website for edgy?
[06:21] <Flannel> NineTeen67Comet: nah, I suppose the other option is to manually edit one of those liveCDs to include hd1,0 as a boot option.  But, really... I'm not entirely sure why you dont want to touch your MBR
[06:21] <Flannel> aSt3raL: besides gnome-looks.org?
[06:22] <HaroldJohnson> Hello all.  Anyone please tell me how to start the cfdisk command?  Not sure which Ubuntu installs to.
[06:22] <Zer0Ry0k0> well, I don't know about booting into the install CD..... if there is a way to install it while still in windows then yes
[06:22] <Flannel> aSt3raL: gnome-look.org that is
[06:22] <NineTeen67Comet> Flannel: because it is my workstation computer at work and I would proptly piss off our Admin ..
[06:22] <HaroldJohnson> Example: Should I use 'cfdisk ext3' to start cfdisk?
[06:22] <ajmitch> draconpern: sorry, that should be headers, not header
[06:22] <HaroldJohnson> !cfdisk
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cfdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <coolrazor> I one wanted to become a Linux/Ubuntu developer/supporter, what programing language should he learn?
[06:22] <bwlang> anybody know of a program for speed reading that works in ubuntu... i can't seem to find one using synaptic's search tools
[06:23] <draconpern> ajmitch: that doesn't exist either
[06:23] <Flannel> coolrazor: python is quite popular
[06:23] <NineTeen67Comet> This box I'm on now is 100% linux (Ubuntu, Gentoo and Suse and room for a couple more...
[06:23] <HaroldJohnson> coolrazor: Why not go with ruby?
[06:23] <herman_munster> thats 300%
[06:23] <HaroldJohnson> Flannel: ruby
[06:23] <HaroldJohnson> Flannel: What do you think about ruby?
[06:23] <DarkMageZ> coolrazor, c or python
[06:23] <aSt3raL> is there a way to change the color of the text in the application menu bars and program bars?
[06:23] <rowanjl> Give me curley braces please
[06:24] <coolrazor> isn't ruby for web?  I mean like full blown apps and stuff
[06:24] <HaroldJohnson> DarkMageZ: ruby would be easier, wouldn't it?
[06:24] <spanglesontoast> fuck yes odlib
[06:24] <spanglesontoast> did it
[06:24] <spanglesontoast> :)
[06:24] <Flannel> HaroldJohnson: ruby would be less useful on a desktop
[06:24] <Flannel> !language
[06:24] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:24] <spanglesontoast> sorry my language is bad
[06:24] <HaroldJohnson> Flannel: Okay
[06:24] <Deaigo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1665578
[06:24] <DarkMageZ> HaroldJohnson, but not many apps are written in ruby for ubuntu. c & python seem to be the main languages used
[06:24] <Psi|ocybe> why am i unable to update my kernel with ubuntu? i do make menuconfig and get tons of warnings and errors and wont let me do anymore
[06:24] <rowanjl> people getting offended by sware words
[06:24] <botxj> language is a beautiful thing! pardon your french! hehe :P
[06:24] <stevarino> hi all... i'm having an issue with a samba mount point being corrupted and haning
[06:24] <stevarino> hanging
[06:25] <stevarino> so i'm wondering how can i stop and restart the samba service
[06:25] <coolrazor> is python a scripting language or full language?
[06:25] <HaroldJohnson> DarkMageZ: Didn't realize that.  Learning ruby right now.  Kind of.  (Got the books, anyway.)
[06:25] <botxj> scripting language
[06:25] <Psi|ocybe> it's /etc/init.d/samba stop
[06:25] <botxj> interpreted language
[06:25] <oblib> spanglesontoast: what did you do?
[06:25] <botxj> it's the snake version of java
[06:25] <Psi|ocybe> start and restart also
[06:25] <Flats> alien...cool little program for an RPM junkie
[06:25] <stevarino> Psi|ocybe: ty
[06:25] <Psi|ocybe> np
[06:25] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone know how to get cfdisk started so that I may reformat an Ubuntu partition?
[06:25] <Psi|ocybe> help for me now
[06:25] <Psi|ocybe> kernel updates
[06:26] <sproingie> coolrazor: the line between "scripting language" and "real language" is mighty blurry these days
[06:26] <BryanJK> Will someone help me install Ubuntu from the Live Disc?
[06:26] <Psi|ocybe> it's pretty straight forward
[06:26] <BryanJK> Well
[06:26] <BryanJK> I need it to install to 1 partition
[06:26] <Flannel> BryanJK: we can't help you with a bad disk.
[06:26] <BryanJK> How do i know its bad
[06:27] <Mez> !tar
[06:27] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:27] <Flannel> BryanJK: because you haven't been able to install succssfully, after a few tries
[06:27] <firebird619> I would like to install XGL. I have built-in Intel graphics. I also have read about AIGLX. Which is better to use, and where can I find a good site with directions to install it properly?
[06:27] <Psi|ocybe> f this place
[06:27] <Flannel> BryanJK: you burned at 24x, which is suspect
[06:27] <Flannel> firebird619: #ubuntu-xgl
[06:27] <stevarino> hm, no go, the samba mount points are still causing my system to hang after i stop samba :(
[06:27] <BryanJK> 24x is the max speed
[06:27] <BryanJK> of my drive for burning
[06:27] <firebird619> Flannel: Thanks
[06:27] <coolrazor> Aren't scripting languages only good for running commands?  Can you really develope software with scripting languages?
[06:27] <Flannel> BryanJK: correct.    And, yes.  Scripting languages are full blown, but this is offtopic, we can continue it in #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like
[06:28] <spanglesontoast> in edgy is the fglrx driver stable
[06:28] <spanglesontoast> ?
[06:28] <coolrazor> Flannel, ok
[06:29] <oblib> spanglesontoast: How did you fix it?
[06:29] <spanglesontoast> then it'll ask you lots of updates
[06:29] <sproingie> spanglesontoast: yeah it works fine
[06:29] <janbanan> Maaaan I just made the upgrade to edgy and now I can't get into windows anymore. It has disappeared from grub. How do I get it back?
[06:29] <spanglesontoast> kool sproingie
[06:29] <spanglesontoast> does that mean it works well with cedega
[06:30] <draconpern> what is my kernel build directory?  my kernel version is 2.6.15-26-386
[06:30] <sproingie> wouldn't know, i only run blender on occasion
[06:30] <oblib> spanglesontoast: ??? It will ask me for updates?
[06:30] <spanglesontoast> basically odlib
[06:30] <spanglesontoast> it will get the dependincies for xserver
[06:30] <oblib> spanglesontoast: when will it ask me?
[06:31] <oblib> spanglesontoast: did you reinstall something?
[06:31] <spanglesontoast> yea odlib I did install something
[06:32] <spanglesontoast> i just removed the xserver and reinstalled it after doing the depends
[06:32] <oblib> I don't have xserver installed
[06:33] <philip__> firefox on discovercard.com crashes (solved by disabling java and javascript).   You get a liveCD environment, with a command on the desktop to install it to the HD
[06:34] <robotdevl> philip__:  mozilla is the only one that will probably listen :P
[06:34] <DanSchnell> What if i don't want to install it, just try it out?
[06:34] <Flannel> DanSchnell: don't click the icon ;)
[06:34] <leftjustified> I'm trying to install dapper from live CD (edgy upgrade killed system) but afterthe kernel loads I'm getting "hda: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit"  <-- this keeps looping :( I just want to reformat and install dapper again...
[06:34] <Flannel> DanSchnell: well, there are more steps in there, so if you accidentally do, you'll be ok.
[06:34] <BryanJ> Ok
[06:34] <sproingie> discovercard is certainly not going to care if firefox crashes.  no amount of bad site coding should cause a crash
[06:34] <BryanJ> what should I burn my Ubuntu Live CD at
[06:34] <BryanJ> what speed?
[06:34] <DanSchnell> So, if i mess up, i can just reboot and start windows?
[06:35] <DanSchnell> Well, as long as i don't have the boot CD in
[06:35] <Flannel> BryanJ: the slowest possible.  Although, you may want to think about downloading the alternate CD, it's been tested a lot more (years more)
[06:35] <Snake> Hey guys im looking for SDL_Pango, what pacakge would have that?
[06:35] <draconpern> can someone tell me what  /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build is?
[06:35] <Xitium> I installed edgy last night on my laptop, now when I choose to restart the computer it hangs after the "graphic" bar gets to the end. Then I have to press the button on the computer
[06:35] <BryanJ> The alternate CD?
[06:35] <BryanJ> whats the difference
[06:35] <philip__> Flannel, I've heard that some CDs don't support 1X burn speeds
[06:36] <Flannel> BryanJ: right, the alternate CD.  instead of being a liveCD, it's just an installer
[06:36] <j-swim> Does anyone know how to use the gfxboot-theme-ubuntu package?
[06:36] <janbanan> How do I know where my windows partition is? Is there a command-line to list all partitions?
[06:36] <Flannel> philip__: CDs?  CDroms, maybe.  but the software should know that
[06:36] <BryanJ> possibly a link?
[06:36] <DanSchnell> Is 20GB big enough for a good linux partition?
[06:36] <Snake> Hey guys im looking for SDL_Pango, what pacakge would have that?
[06:36] <BryanJ> or i can search
[06:36] <Flannel> BryanJ: ubuntu.com/download
[06:36] <BryanJ> k
[06:36] <Flannel> BryanJ: same place you got the 'desktop' but get the 'alternate'
[06:36] <sproingie> 1x is kind of ridiculous.  4x should burn a cd reliably on pretty much any cd
[06:36] <BryanJ> im just really tired and trying to get this done since im on a laptop for a trip tommorow
[06:36] <rbil> DanSchnell: yes
[06:36] <frantic> guys
[06:36] <philip__> well Flannel did say slowest possible :P
[06:36] <frantic> i just updated to 6.10
[06:37] <BryanJ> Now
[06:37] <sproingie> well then you could try 0.000001x
[06:37] <leftjustified> : I'm trying to install dapper from live CD (edgy upgrade killed system) but after the kernel loads I'm getting "hda: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit"  <-- this keeps looping :( I just want to reformat and install dapper again...
[06:37] <knasman> How do I get the workspace switcher to loop around to the other side? i.e. ws4->ws1
[06:37] <BryanJ> This is the same version of Ubuntu as the Live CD right?
[06:37] <robotdevl> DanSchnell: i would think 20gb is enough unless you plan on playing big games like doom3 quake4 etc, they can take a lot of room
[06:37] <BryanJ> just the installer?
[06:37] <Flannel> BryanJ: correct.  Just no liveCD, just an installer.
[06:37] <frantic> and now none of my windows have title bars!
[06:37] <m0> how do we force restart from consol
[06:37] <philip__> sproingie, umm that's not an option really
[06:37] <DanSchnell> Does edgy come with built in features like internet, music playback etc etc ?
[06:37] <m0> or how do we just restart comp from console
[06:37] <leftjustified> m0: sudo reboot
[06:37] <Flannel> DanSchnell: er... of course.
[06:37] <Snake> Hey guys im looking for SDL_Pango, what pacakge would have that?
[06:37] <m0> or how do we shut down?
[06:37] <variant> m0: type reboot
[06:37] <draconpern> frantic: are you trying to use glx?
[06:37] <m0> sudo shutdown?/
[06:37] <variant> m0: sudo reboot
[06:37] <frantic> no
[06:37] <sproingie> philip__: you mean you don't shine your little led flashlight at the cd to burn each bit by hand?  wimp.
[06:38] <variant> m0: or sudo shudown -r now
[06:38] <frantic> i had it set up, but i don't use it
[06:38] <Flannel> DanSchnell: if you're looking for mp3 playback, you'll need to install mp3 codecs, but the players are installed
[06:38] <dhn_> Hi, I just upgraded to the new release of Ubunto from Dapper
[06:38] <DanSchnell> What do you guys think of WINE?  Yay or Nay?
[06:38] <m0> i have to make my own shutdown bashscript :(
[06:38] <dhn_> and I am having problem with X
[06:38] <variant> DanSchnell: meh
[06:38] <variant> m0: why
[06:38] <variant> ?
[06:38] <frantic> wine is cool
[06:38] <BryanJ> Should I get the one at the top?
[06:38] <BryanJ> "The fastest way for most people to get Ubuntu is by downloading the CD Installer. This is a copy of the CD that you burn to a blank disk."
[06:38] <variant> m0: just type halt
[06:38] <DanSchnell> Does it work good for you?
[06:38] <sproingie> wine is a big ol headache for me
[06:38] <philip__> sproingie, it's supposed to be blue nowadays, get with the times old man
[06:38] <variant> DanSchnell: works good here
[06:38] <m0> variant: cause AIGLX does nto show the dialog it is hidden
[06:38] <dhn_> Is there a way to get X to recognize my monitor?
[06:38] <variant> m0: lol
[06:38] <janbanan> How do I list all available partitions on my drive?
[06:38] <frantic> sooo
[06:38] <Flannel> BryanJ: the "Alternate" CD, click 'more versions' or whatever, and it'll give you a big list of lots of stuff
[06:38] <m0> variant: so I don't know what to press
[06:38] <sproingie> philip__: get off my lawn, sonny!
[06:38] <philip__> haha
[06:39] <Flannel> janbanan: more | /etc/fstab
[06:39] <Bobrobyn117> Anyone happen to know what:  "Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:39] <Bobrobyn117>  /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6_i386.deb
[06:39] <Bobrobyn117> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:39] <Bobrobyn117> " means?  :-P
[06:39] <frantic> has anyone heard of this window thing?
[06:39] <rbil> DanSchnell: if you have 512M or more RAM, VMPlayer is probably a better alternative
[06:39] <draconpern> so.. I need help getting ndiswrapper to work, otherwise it's a showstopper.
[06:39] <dougb> does anyone know if there are broadcom drivers for 4318?
[06:39] <variant> m0: make a desktop icon launcher that launches gksudo halt or gksudo reboot
[06:39] <dougb> for AMD64 i mean
[06:39] <dhn_> upgrading ubuntu just borked my computer
[06:39] <DanSchnell> rbil, better alternative to what?
[06:39] <rbil> wine
[06:39] <DanSchnell> ah
[06:39] <cafuego> dougb: yup, bcm43xx + firmware
[06:40] <Snake> Hey guys im looking for SDL_Pango, what pacakge would have that?
[06:40] <dhn_> Could someone help me get X to work again on my computer?
[06:40] <DanSchnell> doesnt vm player suck up alot of system memory?
[06:40] <dougb> ok, i am thinking of getting the ubuntu amd64 edgy DVD
[06:40] <morphish> dougb: yes there are broadcom drivers, i use them with ndiswrapper (not edgy, other distro)
[06:40] <keleus> why can't I use 1280x1024? xorg.conf is correct, and i tried doing the dpkg reconfigure... no change
[06:40] <BryanJ> This one? "[   ]  ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso            07-Aug-2006 13:08   697M  Alternate install CD for PC (Intel x86) computers (standard download)"
[06:40] <dougb> morpish, are they 64-bit?
[06:40] <keleus> i know my hardware can do it.... kubuntu 6.06 had no issues
[06:40] <dhn_> keleus: you're luckier than me, mine won't show me anything
[06:40] <draconpern> dougb: I can't get ndiswrapper to work with bcm drivers
[06:40] <BryanJ> Im on x86 Pentium 4 / Dont want a torrent
[06:40] <Flannel> BryanJ: that's for 6.06, did you want 6.06 or 6.10?
[06:40] <m0> variant: hmm okay
[06:41] <BryanJ> 6.10
[06:41] <rbil> DanSchnell: depends on what vm your make. for W2K, I  have it setup to use 175M. So I said if you have the RAM, it's great.
[06:41] <m0> lets see if shutdown wrks
[06:41] <frantic> aiglx is now included right?
[06:41] <Flannel> BryanJ: then that's not the right one.  Let me get you a direct link
[06:41] <dougb> dracompern: did you compile the ndiswrapper form source?
[06:41] <adele> how do I change my video card driver back to the default?
[06:41] <morphish> dougb: indeed, i had to look around, the broadcom ones didnt work those are off the acer website, laptop is off righ tnow, else i would up them here real quick
[06:41] <BryanJ> It doesnt show it =/
[06:41] <Flannel> BryanJ: they moved some stuff around, made it difficult to find stuff, hang on a sec
[06:41] <DanSchnell> sweet
[06:41] <dougb> hmmm, maybe i'll just use the 32-bit version then
[06:41] <dhn_> keleus: did X work properly for you with the new version?
[06:41] <draconpern> dougb: I can't compile it from source, even with linux-headers installed
[06:41] <phunkizm> if there are any developers in here at the moment, i just want to say thank you for all the great work.
[06:41] <Flannel> BryanJ: what country?
[06:41] <dougb> why can't you compile it?
[06:41] <spanglesontoast> does ndiswrapper work in edgy ?
[06:41] <morphish> dougb: works nice in 64 bit though :)
[06:41] <dougb> yeah it does for me
[06:42] <BryanJ> United States
[06:42] <wastrel> fglrx isn't working :p
[06:42] <BryanJ> United States / Intel x86 (PC)
[06:42] <DanSchnell> tommorrow i plan on just checking out the desktop CD.  I've wanted linux on my computer since I was like 12, and now I finally have the courage to do it...
[06:42] <dougb> my broadcom wifi card ALMOST worked in edgy
[06:42] <Flannel> BryanJ: http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[06:42] <spanglesontoast> what did you install dougb
[06:42] <dougb> well i installed edgy, then i put xgl on and it was running great
[06:42] <draconpern> dougb: I get this message "Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build;"
[06:42] <m0> variant: should I create a batch for gksudo halt
[06:42] <BryanJ> Thanks
[06:42] <dougb> now whenever i run it, it only runs on one processor which is just 800mhz
[06:42] <robotdevl> DanSchnell:  stick with it, you'll get a lot out of running linux :)
[06:42] <Flannel> BryanJ: download that, burn it at 4x, boot it
[06:42] <frantic> brb gunna try the radeon driver
[06:43] <dougb> so it runs slow as shit, and it freezes when it is loading up the window manager
[06:43] <BryanJ> I can burn at 1x
[06:43] <BryanJ> should i?
[06:43] <draconpern> dougb: and 'build' doens't exist
[06:43] <rbil> DanSchnell: bootup the livecd and then come back here from Ubuntu :-) Take you all of 5 minutes
[06:43] <Flannel> BryanJ: 4x is fine ;)
[06:43] <BryanJ> k
[06:43] <m0> cause when i place "gksudo halt" in Launcher Command it doesnlt work
[06:43] <BryanJ> how long will 4x take?
[06:43] <BryanJ> about
[06:43] <dhn_> Is there a configuration program I can run for X to recognize my monitor? It gave me problems when I upgraded from Dapper
[06:43] <dougb> hmmm thats very odd draconpern
[06:43] <Flannel> BryanJ: there's just some caching that goes on at faster than 4x on newer drives, does a number on ISOs
[06:43] <draconpern> dougb: can I get a copy of your 'build'?
[06:43] <Sacker_> dhn, monitor or video card?
[06:43] <morphish> dougb: ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/notebook/aspire_3020_5020/driver/winxp64bit/80211g.zip  easy to find since it is on the ndiswrapper website ;)
[06:43] <BryanJ> Ill do math :D
[06:43] <Flannel> BryanJ: half hour or so? I suppose Ive never really kept track
[06:43] <DanSchnell> rbil: does ubuntu come with irc installed?  or do i need to dl xchat? (or chatzilla for firefox which i'm using right now)
[06:43] <BryanJ> lol
[06:44] <dhn_> sacker: I think video card
[06:44] <Flannel> BryanJ: it's not too long ;)
[06:44] <draconpern> dougb: I am not sure if it's a file, dir, or a symlink
[06:44] <BryanJ> at 24x it took like 45seconds to burn the Live disc
[06:44] <dougb> would that work for my chipset as well morphish?
[06:44] <rbil> DanSchnell:  can't remember. maybe GAIM?
[06:44] <dhn_> sacker: it fails when it tries to start x
[06:44] <dougb> i'm not sure how to do that draconpern, i'm not an ubuntu guru....yet :-P
[06:44] <jdahm> hey, I cant seem to copy anything from my external HD because its mounted as readonly, can I somehow mount it so that I can copy stuff off it?
[06:44] <dhn_> sacker: not showing anything on the monitor
[06:44] <DanSchnell> does gAIM support IRC?
[06:44] <robotdevl> yes\
[06:44] <BryanJ> Another
[06:44] <morphish> dougb: yiou said bcm4318, no? i have a bcm4318 (in a compaq laptop) and use them on an amd64 linux install
[06:44] <spanglesontoast> my ndiswrapper says error inserting it into the kernel
[06:44] <dougb> yeah
[06:44] <BryanJ> Why cant my resolution go higher than 1024x768 in Ubuntu?
[06:45] <Sacker_> dhn_, well "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the config for the video card and monitor
[06:45] <Flannel> DanSchnell: yes, but most think the interface is horrible
[06:45] <dhn_> sacker: but I know it's properly loading x, it's just that I can't see it on my monitor
[06:45] <dougb> do you have the v3010us?
[06:45] <Sacker_> or will reconfigur it
[06:45] <m0> how do we add "gksudo halt" in a desktop icon as a launcher? What do we place in "Command" Textbox
[06:45] <adele> how do I remove ati driver and use the default one?
[06:45] <DanSchnell> How do you join the the freenode network in it?
[06:45] <dhn_> sacker: at first it was giving me errors, so I ran dpkg-reconfigure
[06:45] <dougb> nooooice
[06:45] <dougb> haha
[06:45] <DanSchnell> Well, actually, whats the command?
[06:45] <dhn_> sacker: now it's not showing anything on the screen
[06:45] <dougb> thanks morphish
[06:45] <Sacker_> dhn no command prompt or anything?
[06:45] <Flannel> m0: whats wrong with the shutdown that's already on the menu bar?
[06:45] <morphish> dougb: np
[06:46] <dhn_> sacker: command prompt is fine
[06:46] <m0> Flannel: it doesn't work with XGL
[06:46] <dougb> do any of you know the benifit of downloading the DVD over the CD iso?
[06:46] <dhn_> sacker: just when it goes to X, my monitor thinks that there's no signal
[06:46] <m0> Flannel: AIGLX has a bug that it hides the shudown dialog as invincible
[06:46] <DanSchnell> whats the command in irc to join a network?
[06:46] <Flannel> m0: ah, you might try asking in #ubuntu-xgl, I'm sure they've figured out some trick
[06:46] <feross> prolly a common question but does anyone have freecontrib IP?
[06:46] <wastrel> m0:  gksudo halt    should work,  check the "run in terminal" box maybe
[06:46] <dhn_> danschnell: /connect
[06:46] <BryanJ>  Why cant my resolution go higher than 1024x768 in Ubuntu?
[06:46] <draconpern> dougb: ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build
[06:46] <m0> Flannel: The resolution is to create a new icon
[06:46] <DanSchnell> dhn_ so like "/connect irc.freenode.net" ?
[06:47] <Flannel> DanSchnell: right
[06:47] <BryanJ> a new icon?
[06:47] <keleus> why can't I use 1280x1024? xorg.conf is correct, and i tried doing the dpkg reconfigure... no change
[06:47] <keleus> i know my hardware can do it.... kubuntu 6.06 had no issues
[06:47] <Sacker_> dhn did you backup xorg.conf before you ran the reconfigure?
[06:47] <m0> Errrr, once you create an icon you can't change its settings as "Run in.."
[06:47] <m0> :/
[06:47] <DanSchnell> Flannel, thanks and then "/join #ubuntu" ?  (Sorry i sound so stupid, but i haven't used irc in a year or 2)
[06:47] <feross> BryanJ: I had to edit the xorg.conf to get some higher resolution
[06:47] <dougb> i'm on XP right now draconpern, because my ubuntu is running too slow
[06:47] <dhn_> sacker: it did it automatically, but that version was giving trouble after upgrade
[06:47] <dougb> so i can't get it for you
[06:47] <BryanJ> Ok
[06:48] <BryanJ> has anyone had 1600x1200 in Ubuntu?
[06:48] <phunkizm> DanSchnell, that's correct
[06:48] <Sacker_> BryanJ i have
[06:48] <robotdevl> BryanJ: yes and higher
[06:48] <BryanJ> Ok
[06:48] <BryanJ> My monitor is 32"
[06:48] <BryanJ> and 1024x768 is like
[06:48] <feross> BryanJ: first you need to set it to the correct driver then add the resolutions you want under the 24 settings
[06:48] <Flannel> DanSchnell: yeah, that's the right command, no idea if that's how GAIM does it
[06:48] <BryanJ> Woah to big
[06:48] <robotdevl> BryanJ: it "shouldn't" be a problem
[06:48] <BryanJ> I like 2048x1280 or whatever it is
[06:48] <BryanJ> Cant remember >__>
[06:48] <Sacker_> BryanJ: What monitor do you own?
[06:49] <BryanJ> Oh its old
[06:49] <dhn_> sacker: my monitor is LCD, and I'm using the digital output, that might be causing problems
[06:49] <wastrel> fglrx isn't working on my laptop  --  i've followed the wiki howto.  Help me get it working :]
[06:49] <BryanJ> Viewsonic
[06:49] <BryanJ> Its a CRT
[06:49] <DanSchnell> Ok, i just tried "/connect irc.freenode.net" in mIRC and it read< */connect: not connected to server >
[06:49] <keleus> in regards to my resolution issue... much more info is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286614
[06:49] <Bacon> Hey
[06:49] <Bacon> I have a few generic questions about ubuntu
[06:49] <dhn_> danschnell: try /connect chat.freenode.net
[06:49] <keleus> dhn_, hmm, im using a CRT hooked up to my laptop
[06:49] <dougb> ahh i forgot i can't have multimedia support in 64-bit edgy :(
[06:49] <BryanJ> weighs like 210pounds lol
[06:49] <Flannel> DanSchnell: I believe in mirc it's /server instead of /connect
[06:49] <DanSchnell> ah
[06:50] <Sacker_> dhn On the monitor section of the reconfigure did you make all the right choices for your specific monitor?
[06:50] <rbil> Flannel:  what about /attach ?
[06:50] <DanSchnell> Flannel, yup, that was it.  Thanks.
[06:50] <BryanJ> 15 minutes until ubuntu is done :D
[06:50] <BryanJ> Another
[06:50] <DanSchnell> I'll be back tomorrow! Thanks guys
[06:50] <robotdevl> \o/
[06:50] <BryanJ> can I use my TV TUNER on Linux?
[06:50] <Bacon> Anyone?
[06:50] <keleus> BryanJ, Probably
[06:50] <robotdevl> Bacon: ire away
[06:50] <dhn_> sacker: I have no idea, I didn't make any choices
[06:50] <BryanJ> Like
[06:50] <wastrel> is Xv overlay the reason fglrx isn't working on my system?
[06:50] <BryanJ> What program would I use?
[06:50] <robotdevl> Bacon: fire away
[06:50] <Bacon> Great, robo, do I need to partition a section for ubuntu?
[06:50] <Bacon> and what separates ubuntu from other linux OSs?
[06:51] <dougb> bacon, ubuntu can do it automatically
[06:51] <robotdevl> Bacon: you will need to, the installer will guide you through it
[06:51] <dhn_> sacker: I edited before before to try to add support for my tv tuner, but it didn't work and I removed it
[06:51] <Bacon> dough, without losing information
[06:51] <keleus> Bacon, the bootloader can pick and choose what filesystem to load as "root" and what kernel to run.
[06:51] <Bacon> I wouldn't need to format that specific drive would I?
[06:51] <dougb> yea, you wont lose information.  the next time you boot windows though, it'll do a disk check to check constistancy, but don't be alarmed, its normal
[06:51] <wastrel> what client uses /connect  ?
[06:51] <knasman> no luck on the workspace switcher but I did find out how to turn off the annoying tooltips on the panel menus
[06:51] <dhn_> sacker: but it didn't mess up X in Dapper
[06:51] <robotdevl> Bacon: as long as you have the free space - no
[06:51] <BryanJ> Would my Tv Tuner Drivers work in Linux?
[06:51] <wastrel> no
[06:51] <dhn_> bryanj: depends
[06:51] <keleus> Bacon, once the kernel and root filesystem are loaded, each distro can have it's own partition mounting
[06:51] <redcard> BryanJ: That depends.
[06:52] <BryanJ> as..
[06:52] <draconpern> BryanJ: no
[06:52] <Bacon> Robo: most partition programs (when you separate a harddrive) will clear all the data on the entire drive, so I wont be stuck with this contigency
[06:52] <BryanJ> lol..
[06:52] <Sacker_> dhn have you had x started with edgy yet?
[06:52] <redcard> BryanJ: As for what program, TVTime is commonly used.
[06:52] <hansin321> BryanJ: Depends on the chipset, but I have had luck with mine.  It uses the bttv modules that are part of video$linux (I think).  The modules are included by default with Unbuntu.  Try installing "tvtime".  It is part of the Universe repos.
[06:52] <dhn_> sacker: I think it started, but I can't see it
[06:52] <wastrel> is fglrx completely broken in edgy or am i just unlucky?
[06:52] <dhn_> sacker: is edgy the version that's just released this week?
[06:52] <BryanJ> k
[06:53] <BryanJ> What card do you have
[06:53] <cafuego> you got ati, so yes ;-)
[06:53] <Sacker_> dhn yes
[06:53] <Bacon> Robo: Also, what makes ubuntu so special in a way that it trumpts other Linux OSs?
[06:53] <dhn_> sacker: I can tell x is starting because I can hear the music, but my monitor just goes blank
[06:53] <hansin321> By the way, with "tvtime" I am having problems with sound.  Does anyone know what /dev/??? that sounds comes in from in Ubuntu?
[06:53] <keleus> Well, since no-one can help me with my issue, got another question for you...
[06:53] <Bacon> I really have no experience in Linux at all
[06:53] <robotdevl> Bacon: as far as i remember, ubuntu will create a new partition in the free space and not destroy the existing partition. i tend to do this manually through another way so perhaps someone else who's done this more recently can confrim...
[06:53] <Xitium> I installed edgy last night on my laptop, now when I choose to restart the computer it hangs after the "graphic" bar gets to the end. Then I have to press the button on the computer
[06:54] <Lilandra> how do i format a flash drive?
[06:54] <dougb> it triumphs other Linux OS's based mainly on the support and the constistancy of releases
[06:54] <keleus> What would be a good choice of video card to buy? I am 50/50 as to whether or not I am going to go pcix or agp
[06:54] <redcard> Bacon: Well, I recommend the Ubuntu book.
[06:54] <dougb> and you know that if the release is pushed, it'll be worth the wait
[06:54] <dougb> the downfall of Ubuntu of course, is its gtk-theme :-P
[06:54] <redcard> Bacon: I also recommend an open mind.  Remember that you didn't learn windows overnight..
[06:54] <nemish> Xitium: hangs?... completely hangs? or have you given it a while?
[06:54] <Bacon> Doug: I suppose I'm more worried about my linux kernal unable to boot after I install ubuntu, moreover accessing Windows all together
[06:54] <BryanJ> Omg
[06:54] <BryanJ> the tvtime website is slow as hell
[06:54] <keleus> dougb, and thats where kubuntu comes in :D
[06:54] <sproingie> keleus: you may as well get a pcie card, agp is kind of obsolete, and usually more expensive
[06:54] <dhn_> sacker: when I do the update thing it automatically reconfigures my devices right?
[06:55] <Bacon> Redcard: I am here afterall :)
[06:55] <Xitium> nemish, I've given it about 5 minutes with no change
[06:55] <dougb> Bacon: half of the fun is fixing the problems
[06:55] <redcard> Bacon: Oh yes :)
[06:55] <robotdevl> Bacon: ubuntu is just "easier" to update, add programs etc than a lot of other distros
[06:55] <duklas> I have booted from a live cd cause Xorg crashes the system, mounted the drive, can see it's contents but I can't copy them. Any ideas?
[06:55] <hansin321> One really cool thing about Ubunu (I'm using Xubunt 6.10) is that isn't does not by default instal too many packages.  It seems to really adhear to the KISS (keep it simple principle).  I have not used it for too long, but this is what I have noticed.  And if there is a package/software you want, well the repos have packed.
[06:55] <dhn_> Did X change version from Dapper to Edgy?
[06:55] <nemish> Xitium: can you see HD light blinking on box? or any sort of life?
[06:55] <dougb> yeah, i feel lost in XP since there is no synaptic-esque program to install programs and check for updates
[06:55] <robotdevl> Bacon: because of it's package manager
[06:55] <Bacon> doug: Thats the kind of talk that drives me away from linux...I dont want to risk chances
[06:55] <Xitium> nemish, No just the power led is lit
[06:55] <keleus> sproingie, so, if i were to choose something besides nvidia, what would it be? (not going to touch ATI)
[06:55] <dougb> synaptic and the package manager is kind of a "how could microsoft MISS this?"
[06:56] <robotdevl> Bacon: plus it has a VERY good community
[06:56] <nemish> Xitium: I'm actually experiencing the same sort of issue that mine is doing some weird sort of scan that it takes about 8 min before it comes around
[06:56] <dougb> Bacon: its ok i was just kidding
[06:56] <jrsims> what's the shortcut keys to maximize and minimize windows in gnome?
[06:56] <sproingie> keleus: there really are only two choices in commodity graphics cards
[06:56] <dougb> ubuntu is easier and less stressful to set up than windows is
[06:56] <dougb> especially since it loads from a live CD
[06:56] <Xitium> nemish, interesting maybe I'll tell it to restart then go to bed, I'll check it in the morning
[06:56] <dhn_> Windows has one consistent place to uninstall programs.
[06:56] <Bacon> I dont want to lose windows and have to reformat my C:\ tho
[06:56] <sproingie> keleus: if you don't care about 3d, you have a couple more choices, but if you do games, ati and nvidia are it
[06:56] <robotdevl> Bacon: like dougb said, try the live cd :)
[06:57] <jrsims> anyone?
[06:57] <nemish> Has anyone else experienced this weird issue? On boot just hangs accessing drives.. does almost some weird scan?... known bug?
[06:57] <rbil> dhn_:  yeh but it can't even do that well
[06:57] <Bacon> ah
[06:57] <BryanJ> How well does WINE run games?
[06:57] <Bacon> will do
[06:57] <keleus> sproingie, well, 3d would be nice, but just for options... whats good for 2d-only?
[06:57] <dhn_> BryanJ: depends on the games
[06:57] <Xitium> nemish, I wish that the information about what it is doing wasn't hidden by the graphic
[06:57] <nemish> Xitium: give it a shot.. around 10-15 min
[06:57] <BryanJ> Like BF2, and GTASA, and CSS?
[06:57] <wastrel> How do I fix my broken fglrx?  The wiki howto didn't work for me.
[06:57] <Sacker_> dhn I don't really know dhn, as for updating you mean to edgy?
[06:57] <redcard> Bacon: And ask the forums, and here, and see if you have any Usergroups around you.
[06:57] <nemish> boot into single user mode
[06:57] <sproingie> BryanJ: depends on the game.  when it supports the game, it often runs it better than windows
[06:57] <jrsims> anyone?
[06:57] <jrsims> what's the shortcut keys to maximize and minimize windows in gnome?
[06:57] <BryanJ> LOL
[06:57] <keleus> wastrel, remove the ATI card and get something else? :P
[06:57] <nemish> at Grub starting screen hit Esc
[06:57] <redcard> sproingie: Woah now.
[06:57] <Bacon> two more questions before I go
[06:57] <duklas> any ideas on how to copy files from mounted disk when running on a live cd?
[06:57] <BryanJ> jj
[06:57] <redcard> sproingie: Let's not be misleading.
[06:57] <wastrel> jrsims:  system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[06:58] <Bacon> How much should I allocate for ubuntu
[06:58] <nemish> i just wish hitting Escape actually showed text
[06:58] <mikeymike-linux> how do you uninstall aiglx thoroughly from synaptic.... basically i want to know all the pacakge names to look for and remove them all..... any way of doing this? im helping somone over the phone
[06:58] <Xitium> let me see what happens
[06:58] <wastrel> keleus:  you want to buy me a new laptop with nvidia?
[06:58] <dhn_> sacker: I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, X became messed up, I ran the upgrade thing for X, then it runs X but I can't see it
[06:58] <Bacon> not just for the OS but for programs and other files
[06:58] <redcard> Bacon: How much you got currently?
[06:58] <sproingie> redcard: it's a rare occasion, sure.
[06:58] <momal> http://element14.wordpress.com/2006/10/27/ubuntu-edgy-upgrades-a-disaster-for-many/ <--- have people seen that? hmm seems like just a case of bad luck and tries to take it all out on edgy
[06:58] <Bacon> I'm sitting on 23.5GB
[06:58] <Bacon> available
[06:58] <jrsims> wastrel: thx
[06:58] <keleus> wastrel, laptop? forget about firegl... your stuck with "ati" i bet... what "kind" of ati do you have?
[06:58] <rbil> Bacon:  plenty
[06:59] <redcard> Bacon: IF you are planning on not moving over music, art, etc..  I'd say 10 G would do ya.
[06:59] <dougb> Bacon: the thing about linux is you'll know right away if you like it.  You have to have a certain mentality behind it to trust that the operating system really CAN handle everything for you.  in a system update, you aren't just getting security fixes, it is updating your software for you as well.  it's a completely different user experience than windows could ever be, and windows will never achieve it because of the mentality they stand behind
[06:59] <Bacon> Ok second question
[06:59] <redcard> Bacon: But.. personally?  GO for it all :)
[06:59] <wastrel> keleus:  mobility radeion 9600  this worked with fglrx in breezy and dapper
[06:59] <nemish> Is there any sort of bug in the first release of Edgy Thursday?... weird boot issues? or XFS issues?
[06:59] <frantic> guys heeellllp
[06:59] <Bacon> I have mmusic/office files on NTFS will linux recognize them and run them?
[06:59] <dhn_> nemish: X stopped working for me
[06:59] <BryanJK-AFK> brb
[06:59] <redcard> Bacon: Linux can read NTFS.  Writing.. not so much
[06:59] <BryanJK-AFK> im gonna let ubuntu download >__>
[06:59] <dhn_> bacon: yes, but you can't edit them
[06:59] <frantic> I'm using fluxbox because something is seriously wrong with gnome here
[06:59] <duklas> help anyone about the live cd thing?
[06:59] <Bacon> Well, I suppose reading is all that matters
[07:00] <keleus> wastrel, ah, nevermind. I have an ATI "radeon" IGP. Heh, NOTHING from the ATI website supports it, only the crap-tastic ones from HP. And forget about acceleration in linux.
[07:00] <Bacon> You guys have been great
[07:00] <redcard> Bacon: So if you have your music on your NTFS, you're fine.
[07:00] <dougb> bacon: there is atleast no NTFS writing out of the box, but there are some programs that are less prone to corrupt your hard drive
[07:00] <Bacon> I'm definatly getting ubuntu
[07:00] <dougb> the support for NTFS writing is definatly getting better by the moment
[07:00] <robotdevl> and for anyone interested, doom on my iRiver :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW-qUOFoLz4
[07:00] <dhn_> Ubuntu has the best hardware support of any distro I've seen
[07:00] <dougb> just dont get UBuntu if you have a creative MP3 player
[07:00] <hansin321> BryanJ: If you know how to use the command line, you want to get into /etc/apt directory and then "sudo nano sources.list".  Uncomment the Universe repos in this file (it is a text file).  Save it, then do a "sudo apt-get update" followed by an "sudo apt-get install tvtime".  But if you are new to Linux then this might be gibbish.  /etc/apt/sources.list is a text file, so if you open a text...
[07:00] <hansin321> ...editor (as root) you can change the file that way.   I fully recommend the official book.
[07:01] <frantic> So anyone ever hear fo this problem?
[07:01] <dhn_> sacker: how do I pick the right settings? I just call that program with the commands indicated in the file
[07:01] <keleus> dougb, do they still sell mp3 players that use an SD card and usb-mass-storage style connections?
[07:01] <dougb> yeah they do
[07:01] <frantic> gnome windows have no title bars, and cannot be moved?
[07:02] <dougb> sandisk
[07:02] <Sacker_> what monitor do you have?
[07:02] <dougb> archos
[07:02] <sproingie> !language > dougb
[07:02] <dougb> small creative flash MP3 players do
[07:02] <dougb> oops :-X
[07:02] <redcard> Bacon: Or.. Nostarch Press has a book called "Ubuntu Linux for Non Geeks"
[07:02] <wastrel> frantic:  alt-click will allow you to drag them , but the real problem is your windowmanager isn't working right
[07:02] <redcard> That one, based on a sample chapter, looked pretty solid too
[07:02] <frantic> alt clicking will not allow me to drag them
[07:02] <wastrel> well it should :]
[07:02] <mikeymike-linux> how do i check to see if someone is running aiglx
[07:03] <dhn_> upgrading Linux is a pain
[07:03] <sproingie> "plays for sure, except on vista or a zune"
[07:03] <jrsims> damn. I love HUGE fonts in terminal. Anyone else do that? increase your terminal fonts to like 14 ?
[07:03] <keleus> dhn_, compared to upgrading windows?
[07:03] <maxkelley> dhn_: nonsense!
[07:03] <dougb> haha yeah, microsoft messed up that
[07:03] <sproingie> "plays for sure, except when it doesnt"
[07:03] <dhn_> it took me a day to download the necessary files, and it messed up X
[07:03] <maxkelley> jrsims: not really :P
[07:03] <frantic> i tried invoking metacity inside fluxbox and it's drawing windows right
[07:03] <dougb> ZUNE isn't even play for sure AND you can't sync it with windows media player
[07:03] <sproingie> actually, let's be fair to microsoft, we just misread the slogan
[07:03] <frantic> buuuut i can't get any menus anywhere so i'm not sure how i'm even going to log out
[07:03] <sproingie> it's pronounced "plays? for SURE!"
[07:03] <dhn_> keleus: I've never had problems upgrading with Windows
[07:03] <sproingie> with a sort of "pshaw" after
[07:04] <keleus> sproingie, plays4sure... a product that is intended to STOP playing media. Kinda like the windows "Genuine" "Advantage" program. MS sure has a way of mangling words.
[07:04] <ReconUnit415> Hello? I am not the experienced with linux for my windows recently broke down. I was wondering how to install Anarchy Online. In case you don't know it is a very nice game and I wish to keep playing it.  I know there is a way to install it, but how?
[07:04] <jrsims> maxkelley: you should try it. do huge fonts, then maximize your term window to full screen. super sweet.
[07:04] <InnerF|RE> i havent had any updates with edgy in the last couple of days..
[07:04] <InnerF|RE> are there none?
[07:04] <robotdevl> according to http://www.defectivebydesign.org/en/guide the best unencumbered mp3 players to get are from iRiver or Neuros
[07:04] <InnerF|RE> its quite frightening
[07:04] <keleus> dhn_, Try upgrading from win98 to XP, for instance
[07:04] <dhn_> reconunit415: try WINE
[07:04] <dougb> i hate that i upgraded the firmware on my creative zen touch to be "play for sure" but you can't roll it back, even if you do a hard format on it
[07:04] <dhn_> keleus: I did
[07:04] <keleus> dhn_, i dont mean windows-updates
[07:04] <maxkelley> jrsims: feels like old DOS days, is that why you like it? :P
[07:04] <dougb> so there is no way to roll back the firmware, so i basically have a 200 dollar paperweight
[07:04] <keleus> dhn_, ever manage to finish cleaning out the leftovers?
[07:04] <dhn_> keleus: I upgraded from 95 to 98, 98 to ME, and ME to XP
[07:04] <frantic> uhhh
[07:04] <ReconUnit415> I have but as I say. I don't know anything barly
[07:04] <frantic> awesome
[07:04] <sproingie> iRiver is nifty but I think the company is circling the drain
[07:05] <keleus> dhn_, that system is probably screaming for a reformat
[07:05] <frantic> control-alt-f1 gives me a bunch of green glitches
[07:05] <dougb> iriver is a hidden gem among mp3 players
[07:05] <dougb> sandisk is too
[07:05] <maxkelley> jrsims: or you could simply ctrl-alt-(f1-f6)
[07:05] <inexpertnja> any ideas on why any and all versions of firefox crash after my edgy update? anyone?
[07:05] <jrsims> maxkelley: maybe! I just feel like I'm more involved with the machine when its that way. also, I like to alt+tab a lot between maxed windows
[07:05] <dhn_> keleus: I dumped it a long time ago
[07:05] <redcard> I have an ipod.
[07:05] <keleus> bleh
[07:05] <sproingie> sandisk is definitely in no danger of going under
[07:05] <redcard> It works very , very well.
[07:05] <gaminggeek> Hello
[07:05] <robotdevl> sproingie: well i'm sure it's hard to compete with apple in that market :)
[07:05] <dhn_> keleus: it's full of leftovers, but at least it works and didn't take a day
[07:05] <maxkelley> inexpertnja: normally it is a problem with your extensions.. did you install any?