[08:57] <dyngnosis_> oh, lol. .your suggesting google terms
[08:58] <dyngnosis_> *blush(
[08:58] <thoeger> _Nightwish_: Bring it on....
[08:58] <cmatheson> dyngnosis_: it's the first one on the list
[08:58] <thoeger> Harimwakairi: XChat....
[08:58] <_Nightwish_> how to compile intel driver on ubuntu?
[08:58] <_Nightwish_> when i type make klean
[08:58] <dyngnosis_> cmatheson, got it.. reading now.. you're awesome
[08:58] <dyngnosis_> thanks so much
[08:59] <thoeger> _Nightwish_:  intel driver?
[08:59] <pashaw> _Nightwish_,   intel for what kind of device
[08:59] <Harimwakairi> pashaw, thoeger: thanks.  That's what I'm using now because it came pre-installed.
[08:59] <rabbit1> I added update repositories and got notification of 30 some updates,  is it important to do these updates or should I just do version updates (every 6 months?)..  I don't know what half these programs are
[08:59] <pashaw> Harimwakairi,   it works just dandy
[08:59] <gnomefreak> anyone in here using kubuntu-desktop and have issues with apps loading?
[08:59] <thoeger> Harimwakairi: Sammer here... :)
[08:59] <_Nightwish_> modem
[08:59] <_Nightwish_> 536Ep
[08:59] <_Nightwish_> yea i still have dial-up :(
[08:59] <lucasvo> http://pastebin.com/483986 < my nautilus isn't working anymore
[08:59] <lucasvo> anyone know what's wrong?
[09:00] <scaine> rabbit1, what version are you running?
[09:00] <rabbit1> scaine:  breezy
[09:00] <epp> how do i add like universe so my apt?
[09:00] <mwe> !universe
[09:00] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[09:00] <thoeger> _Nightwish_:  What is your problem? What have you tried, and what errrors did you get?
[09:00] <rabbit1> scaine: should I keep programs on here up to date??
[09:00] <Yon> can sum 1 help me about setting up the internet, does any1 know wat a pppt error is?
[09:00] <rabbit1> scaine:  or just the ones I care about?
[09:00] <epp> how do i add like universe so my apt?
[09:00] <gnomefreak> rabbit1,  yes it is advised
[09:00] <scaine> They should just be security updates then.  Unless you added Backports repo, in which case you'll be getting new versions of your currently installed programs.
[09:01] <scaine> Can you remember what repos you added?
[09:01] <mwe> Yon: like I said two times, check your auth method in kppp
[09:01] <thoeger> epp: easiest in Synaptic
[09:01] <pashaw> lucasvo,   looks like you messed with your fonts?
[09:01] <epp> k
[09:01] <rabbit1> gnomefreak: okay
[09:01] <Yon> mwe :we have tryed all of them
[09:02] <mwe> Yon: anyway, since you're probably to lazy to search the forums, here's a link for the nvidia driver http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[09:02] <epp> thoeger, whats the adress for it?
[09:02] <scaine> lucasvo, are you running Dapper?  It has a Locale issue at the moment that screws up the language pack?
[09:03] <thoeger> Well, got a little problem, hope you'll be patient.....
[09:03] <thoeger> epp
[09:03] <lucasvo> lucasvo: yes I am
[09:03] <pashaw> epp, you just want to add universe and multiverse?
[09:04] <mwe> Yon: I can't help you about being to lazy to read, though
[09:04] <robotgeek> export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 is enuf to force compilation with gcc-3.4 ?
[09:04] <lucasvo> scaine: yes I am
[09:04] <Yon> mwe : bru im talking about internet not the graphics
[09:04] <gnomefreak> lucasvo, look on bugzilla there is a fix for it
[09:04] <epp> nevermind
[09:04] <lucasvo> gnomefreak: oh, thanks
[09:04] <scaine> lucasvo, you should read this :  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108442
[09:04] <mwe> Yon: um I just tried to help you with nvidia drivers before
[09:04] <gnomefreak> lucasvo, you have to install breezys locales than update them to dappers
[09:05] <gnomefreak> mwe, you have kubuntu-desktop right?
[09:05] <Yon> mwe : now draken is reinstalling linux noramal not 64
[09:05] <scaine> gnomefreak, The link on the Dapper dev forum outlines an easier way...
[09:05] <Yon> mwe : now im trying to get the internet to work
[09:05] <pashaw> gnomefreak,   i do on my home system
[09:05] <gnomefreak> scaine, ok ty i didnt know about that one
[09:05] <ossie> gnomefreak, do u know if my sound card has been detected by alsa , and says alsa cntrolled devicedoes that mean its installed?
[09:05] <gnomefreak> does kdevelop work under kubuntu 3.5 pashaw ?
[09:05] <lucasvo> SWFDEC: ERROR: swfdec_font.c(158): tag_func_define_font_2: langcode 1
[09:06] <pashaw> gnomefreak,   doh  got me there
[09:06] <lucasvo> scaine: first error I get: mv: cannot stat `/etc/locale.gen': No such file or directory
[09:06] <gnomefreak> ossie, im not sitting there looking did you try running lspci or lsmod?
[09:06] <scaine> lucasvo, Heh - there's a link about that too - give me a minute and I'll get it for you...
[09:07] <mwe> gnomefreak: I have kubuntu, why?
[09:07] <ossie> it is listed under lspci
[09:07] <pashaw> ossie,   you using dapper?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> mwe,  kdevelop isnt launching on 3.5 is that a issue or is it just mine?
[09:07] <ossie> no , breezy
[09:07] <lucasvo> scaine: thanks
[09:07] <mwe> gnomefreak: oh. it works here
[09:07] <geneo93> whos the networking guru
[09:07] <dyngnosis_> cmatheson, once again -- thanks so much.  I've used ulimit -c unlimited and it has enabled core dumps for the session.  cheers.
[09:08] <gnomefreak> ossie,  do you have sound?
[09:08] <pashaw> ossie,   lsmod  will tell you if and what module is loaded
[09:08] <ossie> no
[09:08] <gnomefreak> :( mwe
[09:08] <globe> can I get some help configuring X?  "fatal error: no screens found"
[09:08] <cmatheson> dyngnosis_: great, party on
[09:08] <ossie> lsmod lists my sound card
[09:08] <pashaw> ossie,   is it using the correct module?
[09:08] <ossie> under device manager it says , alsa controlled deive and i shows n alsa mixer
[09:08] <gnomefreak> ossie,  make sure its not mutted and they are turned up a lilbit
[09:08] <mwe> gnomefreak: what's the error you get if you lanch it from a console?
[09:09] <ossie> done that gnomefreak
[09:09] <ossie> but not getting any sound
[09:09] <cyphase> Mark Shuttleworth's picture is on page A4 of the San Franciscio Chronice today
[09:09] <cyphase> lol
[09:09] <gnomefreak> cannot launch entry: details failed to execute child process kdevelop no such file/dir
[09:09] <gnomefreak> mwe ^^
[09:09] <mwe> gnomefreak: some packages are broken as in not installing all dependencies. I was wondering if that could be the problem
[09:09] <pinkisntwell> why don't we have ff 1.5 at the repos?
[09:09] <mwe> gnomefreak: oh
[09:09] <cyphase> a story about the new space tourism rules
[09:10] <ossie> when i load the multimedia systems selector , and test alsa or anther module , it says failed to consruct tes fpr pipeline
[09:10] <Chousuke> pinkisntwell: It was released after Ubuntu 5.10.
[09:10] <cyphase> no mention of ubuntu unfourtanetly :P
[09:10] <gnomefreak> mwe i just ran sudo apt-get install kdevelop said it was replaced so im installing those packages
[09:10] <pashaw> globe,    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:10] <pinkisntwell> Chousuke: and?
[09:10] <trappist> pinkisntwell: new versions of software don't usually go into stable distros.  they backport security patches and bugfixes and put the new software into the upcoming distro (dapper in this case)
[09:10] <gnomefreak> pinkisntwell,  its not all that stable for ubuntu yet look for it in the backports in febuaryish
[09:10] <pashaw> !tell pinkisntwell about firefox1.5
[09:11] <scaine> lucasvo, gnomefreak , Apologies to Gnomefreak - here's the link I found.  If you don't have an /etc/locale.gen file, then you'll possibly need to copy from Breezy.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106978&page=2.  On the other hand, since it's just asking for a backup to be taken, you might want to ignore the mv command in my original post and try installing locales again, followed by the rest of the doc.
[09:11] <mwe> gnomefreak: maybe ln -s /usr/bin/kdevelop3 /usr/bin/kdevelop ? It works with the multelanguage version here though
[09:11] <scaine> Pretty disappointing if you don't have access to a Breezy install though, eh?
[09:11] <sambaseeker> how do  register nick name?
[09:11] <pinkisntwell> thanks people
[09:11] <mwe> gnomefreak: I seem to remember having to make that link in a previous version
[09:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sambaseeker about register
[09:11] <Syche>  gnomefreak Kdevelop Multilanguage works
[09:12] <pinkisntwell> also, I have another problem, I installed xfce and it works well, but I can't switch keyboard language, how do I do that?
[09:12] <gnomefreak> ok ty i will check it Syche
[09:12] <ozgurgerilla> hi all, is there anyone to help?
[09:12] <pashaw> !anyone
[09:12] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[09:13] <globe> pashaw, thanks.  I think I am getting somewhere
[09:13] <pashaw> globe,    great!
[09:13] <ossie> pashaw when i load the multimedia systems selector , and test alsa or anther module , it says failed to consruct tes fpr pipeline
[09:13] <geneo93> ok i need help with zonet router firewall will not work with any ubuntu
[09:13] <ozgurgerilla> ubotu, u feel stupid is you ask a question and you get no answer
[09:13] <ubotu> ozgurgerilla: okay
[09:14] <mwe> Syche: just making the symlink I suggested fixes the normal (non multilanguage) kdevelop
[09:14] <Syche> gnomefreak or kdevelop3 from the cmd line
[09:14] <markus-_-> how do i upgrade my video card
[09:14] <markus-_-> i pulled the old one
[09:14] <markus-_-> and installed the new one
[09:14] <mwe> Syche: he left, it seems
[09:14] <egil> When downloading with wget, is it possible to choose another name for the downloaded file ?
[09:14] <Syche> gnomefreak: Great
[09:14] <ozgurgerilla> i want to install ubunu on the same hard drive as my windows is this ok?
[09:15] <markus-_-> but ubuntu doesn't automatically recognize it
[09:15] <mwe> Syche: however sudo ln -s /usr/bin/kdevelop3 /usr/bin/kdevelop fixes it
[09:15] <gnomefreak> ok thats strange :( the muli lag. works but a few of them dont
[09:15] <globe> pashaw, I use a dvorak keyboard: its asking me about my kbd XKB rule set.  do I need to change this?
[09:15] <cmatheson> egil: yeah, -o
[09:15] <scaine> sambaseeker, Here's the link explaining it all : http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[09:15] <sambaseeker> nalioth: thanks
[09:15] <markus-_-> you need to partition that hard drive ozgurgerilla .... but that is how mine is set up
[09:15] <mwe> gnomefreak: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/kdevelop3 /usr/bin/kdevelop fixes it
[09:15] <Myrtti> ozgurgerilla: and we really don't know if we can help you so we don't answer to "does/can anyone" questions. I don't know about the majority, but I've lost my wizard hat ;-)
[09:15] <sambaseeker> scaine: thanks i just did
[09:15] <gnomefreak> i am
[09:15] <pashaw> globe,   never used that layout id got with the defaults
[09:15] <mwe> gnomefreak: you don't need the multilanguage version
[09:16] <markus-_-> help
[09:16] <pinkisntwell> what the heck is /opt?
[09:16] <scaine> No worries
[09:16] <gnomefreak> ok after i ran that mwe i just got a promt it should work now?
[09:16] <globe> pashaw, thanks....It says its going to use the current kbd settings
[09:16] <markus-_-> can i use apt get to update the drivers when the computer boots to shell
[09:16] <cmatheson> pinkisntwell: it's for vendors to install their software in
[09:16] <trappist> pinkisntwell: generally that's where statically compiled applications go that you got from outside apt
[09:16] <gnomefreak> mwe oh you are good
[09:16] <mwe> gnomefreak: it still doesn't lauch the ide?
[09:16] <gnomefreak> thank you so much :)
[09:16] <gnomefreak> mwe it does :)
[09:16] <pashaw> ozgurgerilla,   sometimes you need to be patient  this is volunteer   so sometimes you have to wait a few minutes   then ask again
[09:17] <mwe> gnomefreak: I think the shortcut is broken
[09:17] <trappist> pinkisntwell: stuff that's portable across distros/versions... that's why I like to make it a separate partition, so I can keep that stuff if I reinstall/upgrade/find a new favorite distro
[09:17] <pinkisntwell> and what does "firefox %s" mean?
[09:17] <gnomefreak> mwe i think your right now all of the kdevelop apps work :)
[09:17] <trappist> pinkisntwell: %s is a variable containing a url
[09:17] <Syche> mve: Thanks for the ln suggestion. Better than having he whole thing
[09:17] <ozgurgerilla> pashaw, thanks for the advise
[09:17] <pashaw> ozgurgerilla,   but your answer is yes you can   provided you have room to resize or have an empty partition
[09:18] <pinkisntwell> trappist: thanks
[09:18] <mwe> gnomefreak: good. I think the symlink is not needed if you fix the shorcut though
[09:18] <pashaw> ozgurgerilla,   all my desktop systems are dual boot with win2000
[09:18] <dave_> hey can anyone tell me how to update firefox on my new installation? i downloaded the new tarball from the firefox website, but theres no install file and i can't figure out where to un-ball it
[09:18] <gnomefreak> mwe,  did you just work on that?
[09:18] <cmatheson> !firefox1.5
[09:18] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:19] <egil> cmatheson: -o is is for the log
[09:19] <mwe> gnomefreak: work on it? what do you mean?
[09:19] <ozgurgerilla> I havent partitioned my hard drive. could there be a software that can partition it without loosing my windows files.
[09:19] <sambaseeker> what is hot key combination to start terminal?
[09:19] <pashaw> ossie,    im not a sound card pro     but i only worry about the top test       think i have alsa  alsa   on my home system
[09:19] <user__> hi
[09:19] <gnomefreak> mwe with the ln command or it was a try this it should work?
[09:19] <cmatheson> egil: -O, check the man-page
[09:19] <user__> it seems that either my superblock or my partitiontable has been crashed
[09:19] <cmatheson> ozgurgerilla: parted does that
[09:20] <user__> e2fsck shows me many errors
[09:20] <user__> what can i do?
[09:20] <mwe> gnomefreak: I seem to remember having to create the symlink in a previous version. I then found out just now fixing the shortcut is sufficient
[09:20] <pashaw> ossie,   alot of these desktop tools are new to me     im CLI oldschool
[09:20] <ozgurgerilla> does parted work on windows?
[09:20] <gnomefreak> mwe ok ty ill have to remember that
[09:20] <mwe> gnomefreak: just change kdevelop to kdevelop3 in the shortcut
[09:20] <trappist> ozgurgerilla: you mean does it run in windows, or does it edit windows partition tables?
[09:20] <mwe> gnomefreak: but we should file a bug report
[09:20] <in54no> how can i install packs of dev like gcc, libs and others?
[09:21] <cmatheson> ozgurgerilla: it's on the install c
[09:21] <cmatheson> d
[09:21] <ozgurgerilla> run work wat else can u dig from those words?
[09:21] <pashaw> ozgurgerilla,   understand the risks first   but you can use  the Ubuntu liveCD  or knoppix or buy  partitionmagic to resize  but make backups of your files first incase
[09:21] <ozgurgerilla> ok.
[09:21] <mwe> gnomefreak: I'm glad it works for you now though
[09:21] <gnomefreak> mwe i will file one in a few about it ty again
[09:21] <mwe> gnomefreak: great
[09:22] <pashaw> ozgurgerilla,   or  add another drive to you system  and leave your windows drive alone   doesnt have to be a large drive either
[09:22] <mwe> gnomefreak: don't forget to mention fixing the shorcut solves it though ;)
[09:22] <gnomefreak> i wont mwe
[09:22] <in54no> how install packs like gcc, libs and others of develop in ubuntu!?
[09:22] <pashaw> ozgurgerilla,   say  about a 10G drive will last you a long time  unless you save alot of music and videos
[09:22] <cmatheson> in54no: aptitude install build-essential
[09:23] <nalioth> in54no: install 'build-essential
[09:23] <cmatheson> in54no: for the libs you want just install the -dev package
[09:23] <ozgurgerilla> pashaw: thanks. Im using live cd and i wanna install it now. i think i have to back everything.
[09:23] <skel> has anyone built anything thats needed openal ? I think the openal package is broke. there's no openal-config
[09:23] <in54no> cmatheson, ok thanks -dev package?
[09:23] <globe> pashaw,  THANKYOU!  one last question.  I am using ctrl-alt-f1 to access this screen, and got x to start on f2.  now that I come back to f1, f2 is just text.  Is there a key I have to press to get the gui back?
[09:23] <silbe> i'm stuck right at the beginning of the installation because I cannot get isolinux to work with my USB keyboard
[09:23] <silbe> anyone willing/able to help me?
[09:23] <pashaw> globe,    F6 or 7  forgot
[09:23] <ozgurgerilla> is installing ubuntu difficult?
[09:24] <markus-_-> how do i install a new video card in ubuntu
[09:24] <cmatheson> in54no: basically any library that is packaged will not include the development lard, so say you wanted to install libsdl1.2 and develop w/ it, you would also install libsdl1.2-dev
[09:24] <markus-_-> i installed the card
[09:24] <pashaw> globe,   F7
[09:24] <markus-_-> then it gave me shell
[09:24] <mwe> globe: alt-f7
[09:24] <ossie> please guys , ive just bought this sound card today and i still aint got no sound, im on suicide watch
[09:24] <psusi> globe: F2 is just the second tty, it will allways be text... X usually runs on tty7
[09:24] <markus-_-> so i used apt get to install the drivers
[09:24] <in54no> cmatheson, ok thanks :D:D:D
[09:24] <markus-_-> but it still won't boot
[09:24] <psusi> globe: or whatever the first unused tty is when X starts up
[09:24] <pinkisntwell> why is ubuntu's ff 1.0.7 so slow?
[09:24] <markus-_-> tells me X server is disabled
[09:24] <pinkisntwell> I've been reading about this on the forums
[09:25] <pashaw> ossie,   what sound card?
[09:25] <slim> need some wpa help if anyone is available
[09:25] <ossie> phillips psc 724
[09:25] <globe> pashaw. oh man. thanyou so extrodinarily much. I have been working on this for about 4 hours.
[09:25] <cmatheson> !tell slim about anyone
[09:25] <markus-_-> do i need to reinstall ubuntu?
[09:25] <silbe> markus: just a quick guess: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:25] <pashaw> !tell slim about wpa
[09:25] <psusi> pinkisntwell: might not be it... but some people have problems because they have busted routers or ISPs that claim to support IP6, so firefox tries to use that... only they don't really support it so it doesn't work
[09:25] <mwe> pinkisntwell: yeah. about:config in ff, disable the ipv6 crap
[09:25] <sambaseeker> Is it allowed&possible to add username "user" or i am doing something wrong?
[09:25] <edgarin> HI
[09:25] <KenMasters> hey what happend ? please check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6389
[09:25] <pashaw> globe,     have fun!
[09:25] <edgarin> you have a webcam??
[09:25] <markus-_-> no i didi silbe
[09:25] <edgarin> I need test the amsn 0.95
[09:26] <edgarin> the webcam
[09:26] <mwe> pinkisntwell: also ff 1.5 seems much faster here
[09:26] <edgarin> but I need one person
[09:26] <edgarin> with webcam
[09:26] <markus-_-> so i enter that from shell?
[09:26] <silbe> markus: yep
[09:26] <cmatheson> edgarin: hey maybe you could  try typing everything on one line
[09:26] <slim> my wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart
[09:26] <KenMasters> i webcam is Creative PC CAM 350
[09:26] <pinkisntwell> I have ipv6 disabled
[09:26] <edgarin> ok excuseme!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[09:26] <silbe> markus: i don't know whether there's an easier way, but it worked for me yesterday
[09:26] <mwe> pinkisntwell: about:config confirms that?
[09:26] <edgarin> KenMasters: You have msn messenger??
[09:26] <pinkisntwell> mwe: yes
[09:27] <sambaseeker> what is command to remove user?
[09:27] <KenMasters> not
[09:27] <mwe> pinkisntwell: all of it?
[09:27] <cmatheson> sambaseeker: deluser
[09:27] <sambaseeker> k
[09:27] <KenMasters> i install webcam problem's
[09:27] <KenMasters> hey what happend ? please check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6389
[09:27] <markus-_-> silbe
[09:27] <markus-_-> it says reconfigure must be run as root
[09:27] <markus-_-> what now?
[09:27] <pinkisntwell> mwe: what do you mean all of it? it has "disable ipv6" as true
[09:27] <silbe> type "sudo" in front of it
[09:27] <pinkisntwell> mwe: I disabled it the other day
[09:28] <dave_> hi, it says when i try to upgrade firefox that i need libstdc++5... i have tried using the command "sudo apt-get install libstdc++5, but it gives me an error. how do i do this?
[09:28] <cmatheson> KenMasters: the software is looking for /dev/video0, you don't have that file
[09:28] <silbe> markus: i usually login as root for administration tasks, but it seems Ubuntu discourages that, so use sudo
[09:28] <KenMasters> i type "ls /dev/vi*" and not result :-s
[09:28] <cmatheson> KenMasters: yes, because you don't have that file
[09:28] <mwe> pinkisntwell: look at this too: http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum21/8007.htm
[09:29] <cmatheson> KenMasters: you don't have the hardware set up for /dev/video0 (i'm not familiar w/ what that is... tv card?)
[09:29] <KenMasters> Since I install the file?
[09:29] <KenMasters> is a webcam
[09:29] <dave_> apt-get says "Unable to lock the download directory" how do i fix this?
[09:29] <KenMasters> view in paste
[09:30] <KenMasters> in lsusb
[09:30] <markus-_-> 32 mb is = to 32000 kb right
[09:30] <markus-_-> lol
[09:30] <ossie> any ideas pashaw
[09:30] <KenMasters> 041e:4012 Creative Technology, Ltd
[09:30] <rod> hi
[09:31] <psusi> markus-_-: no... kb = 1024 bytes... mb = 1024 kb... etc
[09:31] <dereks_> does anyone else have a problem with sbackupd not actually backing up? it automatically goes defunct?
[09:31] <rod> how to make the computer shut itself down in 30 minutes?
[09:31] <rod> automagicly
[09:31] <calamari> hi
[09:31] <rev> rod: sudo shutdown -h 30
[09:31] <pashaw> ossie,   did you verify the correct module is loaded for that card i never saw your answer
[09:31] <rod> merci rev
[09:31] <psusi> sometimes crazy people like to say kb = 1000 and KB or KiB = 1024... but they usually work for hard drive marketing departments so they say that to make their drives look bigger than they really are ;)
[09:31] <terry_> I am trying to move grub from my original hd(hda) to my new sata drive(sda).  Is there an easy way??  The reason being, I want to erase the other drive, while still maintaining my system as is
[09:32] <ossie> it comes up as a via , but i think the chipset is via
[09:32] <Eleaf> Hi
[09:32] <trappist> rod: shutdown -h +30
[09:32] <trappist> oops
[09:32] <calamari> my computer just locked up, so I had to restart it.. back when I was plain ext2, this would mean a long fs check on reboot... but now with ext3, it is saying the fs was clean... did the journal help me or hurt me here?
[09:32] <rod> ^^
[09:32] <rod> How to make any one else's computer shut down on a specific time?
[09:32] <ossie> i dont know how to check its the right module , pashaw
[09:32] <pashaw> ossie,   that sound card is not via
[09:32] <Eleaf> how do I mount my hard drive with the livecd?  I did mount /dev/hda /mnt/ but it says I need to specify a file system type..
[09:33] <trappist> rod: ssh someother box shutdown -h +30
[09:33] <ossie> pashaw, i belive it has a via chipset
[09:33] <psusi> calamari: that's what the journal is for
[09:33] <Eleaf> I don't know the format to put the file format for the command in
[09:33] <Eleaf> lol
[09:33] <calamari> psusi: cool :)
[09:33] <pashaw> ossie,   google   card model        like this     model# linux        or try  adding module
[09:33] <psusi> Eleaf: you have to specify the filesystem type... add a -t type... like -t ext3
[09:33] <rod> trappist, what's the name of your box?
[09:33] <pashaw> ossie,   find what works for others  then you compare to yours
[09:33] <trappist> Eleaf: hda is a hard drive.  you want to mount a partition, like hda1
[09:34] <trappist> rod: grasshopper
[09:34] <cmatheson> Eleaf: is /dev/hda really not partitioned?
[09:34] <trappist> grasshopper.linuxkungfu.org
[09:34] <psusi> Eleaf: what trappist said too...
[09:34] <trappist> Eleaf: once you get that right, mount should be able to guess the filesystem type
[09:35] <psusi> trappist: not from the livecd... mount guesses the type by looking in /etc/fstab
[09:35] <calamari> aww.. I didn't change fstab from ext2 to ext3
[09:35] <calamari> that's probably bad
[09:35] <calamari> brb.. rebooting
[09:35] <rod> thanks for the help, ttfn
[09:35] <trappist> psusi: no, mount will also try all the filesystems it knows about until one works before complaining
[09:35] <swb> hello #ubuntu
[09:35] <markus-_-> silbe
[09:35] <markus-_-> i tried that command you gave me and it still fails to boot x server
[09:36] <trappist> psusi: iow it assumes '-t auto' if you don't specify
[09:36] <markus-_-> do i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[09:36] <globe> how can I kill xwin from text mode?
[09:36] <psusi> trappist: sometimes I think it does... and sometimes it seems it won't...
[09:36] <psusi> best to just specify if it isn't listed in /etc/fstab I find
[09:36] <pashaw> markus-_-,    whats the error
[09:37] <Eleaf> trappist, Alright thank you, I'll see if that worked!
[09:37] <slim> my wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart
[09:37] <ossie> pashaw it has the same chipset as the icensemble, and that is what is has installed as
[09:37] <silbe> markus: examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:38] <silbe> markus: and try to find some error messages
[09:38] <heishiro> globe: Not sure, but isnt ubuntu like any other linux?... Im downloading it now... If it is, then a ps aux|grep xwin will show you the process id, and kill processnumber should kill it...
[09:38] <swb> quick question: I tried to apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 and it said package has no installation candidate
[09:38] <swb> I am on breezy, is this a problem with my sources.list?
[09:38] <pashaw> ossie,    then open the test again and try the top set  each type   esd and alsa   see if you get a tone
[09:38] <silbe> anyone able to help out with USB keyboard problems at installation time?
[09:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell swb about java
[09:39] <globe> heishiro: I would assume it is...but my knowledge of *nix is very limited
[09:39] <Eleaf> trappist, alright, mounting that way works only for hda3, hda1, 2, and 4 ask for a filesystem type...
[09:39] <trappist> Eleaf: you're certain you have a hda4?
[09:39] <heishiro> globe: then try ps aux|grep xwin
[09:39] <heishiro> or just try ps aux
[09:40] <swb> !javadebs
[09:40] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[09:40] <trappist> globe: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:40] <heishiro> it will show all the processes that linux is running...
[09:40] <pashaw> globe,  you want to kill the entire xserver  or just 1 bad window
[09:40] <heishiro> you will see a process id number...
[09:40] <cmatheson> Eleaf: is hda4 your swap partition maybe?
[09:40] <steve_laptop> ok I just f up my apt-get help if you can - /var/lib/apt/lists/partial is missing
[09:41] <globe> pashaw,  I broke xwin....the server is mostly frozen
[09:41] <Eleaf> cmatheson, trappist alright, I got hda3 to mount which is my filesystem, thanks!
[09:41] <pashaw> globe,   thought you just had it working?
[09:41] <Eleaf> trappist, , hda4 is in /dev but I don't know if it is anything..
[09:41] <globe> pashaw, lol...I did...but I broke it already!
[09:42] <epp> amarok wont play any sound. but my pc plays system sound.
[09:42] <pashaw> globe,   well what  did you do?      or did it not fully work?
[09:42] <pashaw> globe,   lol it was only 10mins ago
[09:43] <Eleaf> Alright, is anybody willing to help me?  I've got my filesystem loaded with the livecd, my harddrive wont boot past calculating module dependencies, I'm not sure what to do to fix it..
[09:43] <globe> pashaw, I think it did fully work.  but when I tried to start the gui irc, it just froze.
[09:43] <pashaw> Eleaf,  easy big fella
[09:43] <ozgurgerilla> why cnt i compile java files with shell on the live cd.
[09:43] <ozgurgerilla> ?*
[09:43] <slim> my wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart
[09:43] <epp> amarok wont play any sound, but system sounds work.
[09:43] <Eleaf> pashaw, ?
[09:44] <pashaw> globe,   at the CLI  all you type is startx   dont do it  using sudo  or any of that
[09:44] <Malachi> what's a good linux program for recording radio streams?
[09:44] <ossie> anyone know how to start the mutlimedia selector form command line???
[09:44] <pashaw> globe,    go back into F7 the gui and  hit   ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:45] <rev> Malachi: streamripper
[09:45] <Malachi> Heh. Thanks, rev
[09:45] <self_> hello all
[09:45] <veleno> hello everyone. which package should I install to watch quicktime trailers within firefox (ubuntu 5.10) ?
[09:45] <globe> pashaw.  nice. I am going to have to remember that.  I believe that I did startx w/o sudo
[09:45] <pashaw> globe,   dont do that again  :P
[09:45] <self_> in ubuntu ...if i want to open a terminal in a folder how do i do it?
[09:45] <phos-phoros> anyone else having issues in Doom 3 (black walls/floors,,,and the flashlight cannot light these areas) while bumpmapping is turned on and in using the 8.16.20 fglrx driver?
[09:45] <Eleaf> pashaw, lol, I'm confused what to do..
[09:46] <ozgurgerilla>  why cnt i compile java files with shell on the live cd?
[09:46] <lucasvo> is anybody using an EPIA board with ubuntu?
[09:46] <phos-phoros> no issues with bumpmapping in QUake 4 though
[09:46] <pashaw> Eleaf,  i have to run a min to check on my users,  but   are you doing a fresh install?
[09:46] <Eleaf> pashaw, do you know what ubuntu is doing when it is calculating module dependencies at boot?
[09:46] <veleno> lucasvo, which java version are you using ?
[09:46] <Eleaf> pashaw, I'm trying to repair my system after a dist-upgrade from breezy pre-release to breezy
[09:46] <trappist> ozgurgerilla: try rephrasing your question
[09:46] <self_> is gnomefreek here?
[09:47] <Eleaf> pashaw, It freezes at calculating module dependencies every time after that
[09:47] <gnomefreak> self?
[09:47] <globe> pashaw...right
[09:47] <self_> gmone..how do i open a terminal in a folder?
[09:47] <Eleaf> pashaw, your a network admin right? lol
[09:47] <pashaw> Eleaf,   yes
[09:47] <ozgurgerilla> ok, can the ubuntu live cd compile java files?
[09:47] <cmatheson> ozgurgerilla: no
[09:48] <trappist> ozgurgerilla: what I meant was, "I did _______ and ______ happened.  what's wrong?"
[09:48] <gnomefreak> self_, explain that a lil more please do you mean use terminal to go into a dir/folder?
[09:48] <lucasvo> veleno: why? what java?
[09:48] <Eleaf> pashaw, yay.  But do you have any idea what to do to fix my ibook?
[09:48] <globe> pashaw: not sure what I did in the first place but I got the irc client to open correctly now....
[09:48] <pashaw> Eleaf,   nothing about ibooks :(
[09:48] <mase> can anyone help me set up an auto mount on fstab with read only permission so any user can read stuff, like mp3s?
[09:48] <self_> i want to execute a file in a downloaded folder
[09:48] <pashaw> Eleaf,    too busy playing with Linux
[09:48] <Eleaf> pashaw, well I'm trying to fix the calculating module dependencies thing
[09:49] <self_> in other distros you click in the folder and open a terminal
[09:49] <gnomefreak> self_,  what kind of file extention is it?
[09:49] <epp> isnt there a kindof batch file that auto setsup moutning of ntfs windows partitions?
[09:49] <Eleaf> pashaw, do I chroot to the harddrive with the livecd, and then what?
[09:49] <veleno> ozgurgerilla: which java version are you using ?
[09:49] <epp> isnt there a kindof batch file that auto setsup moutning of ntfs windows partitions?
[09:49] <ozgurgerilla> trappist i think my problem was understood by someone else and he gave me the answer. why should why rephrase it exactly the sameway u want it?
[09:49] <veleno> lucasvo, sorry, wrong nick
[09:49] <slim> my wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart. Bueller? :)
[09:49] <gnomefreak> self_, im not sure
[09:49] <ozgurgerilla> I*
[09:49] <pashaw> Eleaf,    im not a chroot pro  only used it a few times
[09:50] <epp> isnt there a kindof batch file that auto sets up mounting of ntfs windows partitions?
[09:50] <gnomefreak> self_, if any terminal will work use the default terminal and do what you need to do
[09:50] <Eleaf> pashaw, ok, well how do i fix the module dependencies thing? lolol
[09:50] <msg1> hey, I just installed ubuntu. the computer is plugged into my modem through a regular network cable. It was able to connect to the internet when downloading updates, but it times out when trying to goto a website on firefox.
[09:50] <self_> example ...in puppy you right click in the file and exe xterm
[09:50] <trappist> ozgurgerilla: don't be obtuse.  the way you asked it, the answer is unknowable.  it could be because you don't know how, because you're trying to use the sun jre compiler which it doesn't have, or anything else.
[09:50] <gnomefreak> self_,  right click the file and open with other app than choose terminal
[09:50] <epp> isnt there a kindof batch file that auto sets up mounting of ntfs windows partitions?
[09:50] <pashaw> Eleaf,    im re-reading your post
[09:51] <trappist> epp: no.
[09:51] <gnomefreak> self_,  i never used puppy :(
[09:51] <self_> if i open a terminal and just say syslinux /dev/sda1 it says it cannot find the file
[09:51] <cmatheson> msg1: can you ping yahoo.com?
[09:51] <trappist> epp: and don't repeat yourself every few seconds like that.
[09:51] <msg1> okay how do i do that
[09:51] <self_> lol....its interesting
[09:51] <pashaw> Eleaf,   it boots to grub right    have you tried a recovery kernel
[09:51] <jahshua--> hi whats the latest version of Ubuntu ?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> ok now bbl have some work to do
[09:51] <pashaw> Eleaf,   your old ones
[09:52] <gnomefreak> 5.10
[09:52] <cmatheson> jahshua--: breezy
[09:52] <martii> ok folks
[09:52] <epp> trappist, i have used the program before it was reffered from here
[09:52] <martii> I have problem with playing WMV streams
[09:52] <martii> in firefox
[09:52] <self_> so lets say i want to install a program from a file how would i do that/
 thanks
[09:52] <jahshua--> 5.10 ?
[09:52] <martii> any sugestions?
[09:52] <jahshua--> cool
[09:52] <martii> should I use vlc
[09:52] <martii> mplayer plugin ?
[09:52] <martii> I;ve tried mpalyer plugin but it's so slooooow
[09:53] <self_> :-(
[09:53] <msg1> yes i am able to ping yahoo.ocm
[09:53] <sanjay> just received the 5.10 CD's and setting up : ) -- can someone give me a link to the ideal contents of the Repositories file ? with the backdoor repositories etc ?
[09:53] <Stew_Lappy> I want a newsreader that works with nzb files, any suggestions?
[09:53] <Eleaf> pashaw, they don't put a recover kernel with the ppc version, anyways, I got the livecd up and my hard drive mounted, I have access to all the files on my harddrive
[09:54] <self_> ....command question anyone?
[09:54] <steve_laptop> ok I just f up my apt-get help if you can - /var/lib/apt/lists/partial is missing
[09:54] <pashaw> Eleaf,    also you can "append"  some commends to your grub boot   to disable all the fancy stuff like acpi   so you can at least boot to fix it
[09:54] <pinkisntwell> sanjay: you can open up your /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment all the repositories
[09:54] <pinkisntwell> sanjay: so that all of them will be used by synaptic and apt-get
[09:54] <pashaw> Eleaf,   i dont have a clue  what would help an ibook boot
[09:54] <sethk> self_, the argument is a device, you gave it a partition
[09:55] <Eleaf> pashaw, ok but I'm booted into the livecd and I can make the changes there, I just don't know what to fix...
[09:55] <philc> my laptop gets online on a lot of networks, and gets a variety of ips. When it's connected at home, I want it to have a static IP or an ip alias. Is this possible with network manager, or with ubuntu's default networking setup but still utilizing dhcp? The dhcp server is some router, and I don't want to have to set the policy on the router itself
[09:55] <pashaw> Eleaf,   on an ibm lappy i would try disabling acpi and apic
[09:55] <nalioth> love that chanserv
[09:55] <el> ih guys
[09:55] <self_> yes i want to knnow how to open a terminal in a folder
[09:55] <pashaw> Eleaf,   reinstall the kernel  wold be a start
[09:55] <self_> know even
[09:55] <Eleaf> pashaw, ok, should I use apt?
[09:56] <in54no> apt-get install mplayer   (because dont download?)
[09:56] <self_> or how to open a terminal linked to the folder contents
[09:56] <el> any1 here use kylix?
[09:56] <Eleaf> pashaw, for some reason, the livecd isn't letting me use my ethernet...
[09:56] <pashaw> Eleaf, someone else has to be better for this question    ask   how to chroot into your broekn Ubuntu to reinstalll the kernel
[09:57] <el> any use kylix
[09:57] <self_> i understand what gnome is saying to open the folder with an application
[09:57] <self_> but i want to execute a command linked to a file
[09:57] <Eleaf> pashaw, alright, I am chrooted into it I have a bunch of kernels there, but only the kernel named "Linux" shows up at boot...
[09:58] <msg1> most of the programs cannot access the internet but i am able to ping yahoo.com in the terminal. Is this a known problem?
[09:58] <Eleaf> while I have at least 6 old kernels in /boot
[09:58] <elle> hello, is there an html - browser expert here? i've been trying to fix my stupid browser for days now >:(
[09:58] <self_> if i want to execute a file i need to tell ubuntu where it is or it will not find it
[09:58] <el> what problems do u have?
[09:59] <elle> the fonts won't render how i want
[09:59] <Eleaf> self_, what do you mean?
[09:59] <el> ohh which browser are u using
[09:59] <self_> ok..
[09:59] <elle> Opera
[09:59] <el> oh
[09:59] <el> im out then
[09:59] <cmatheson> self_: that's kind of the point... if it's not in your $PATH you have to specify what you want to run
[09:59] <elle> yep
[09:59] <elle> nightmare
[09:59] <el> stay with ff
[10:00] <self_>  an example is in puppy linux ..if i want to execute a runnable file i open a terminal in the folder and use a command
[10:00] <Eleaf> self_, you could put a link in your bin folder to what your trying to run
[10:00] <el> tgry konqueror
[10:00] <elle> ido you know if i shoudl have a user.css which my browser reads locally because i don't have one
[10:00] <self_> in ubuntu i cannot open a terminal in a folder
[10:00] <Eleaf> self_, what?
[10:00] <el> have u tried re-installing or re downloading sometimes they wont download properly
[10:00] <el> make sure it updated
[10:01] <self_> ok an example is ..i download a file and put it in home folder
[10:01] <Eleaf> ok
[10:01] <self_> now i want to execute the file in the folder
[10:01] <Eleaf> self_, ok
[10:01] <lightbright> whats the command to totally wipe a whole hard drive?
[10:01] <el> has any used kylix with ubuntu?
[10:02] <self_> so how do i execute the file?
[10:02] <Eleaf> self_, ./filename
[10:02] <el> lightbright....you dont
[10:02] <sanjay> pinkisntwell: thanks! -- are there any additional repositories that can be added to the list, or is the list fairly comprehensive ?
[10:02] <lightbright> whats the command to totally wipe a whole hard drive replacing sector by sector with zero's etc?
[10:02] <elle> no, i had alot of dependence problems when i installed. do you think if i do a reinstall that will happen now?will i have all the libs etc i need?
[10:02] <self_> ubuntu says no such file..or cannot find file
[10:02] <el> yes
[10:02] <lightbright> el: is now ignored for trolling again
[10:02] <pinkisntwell> sanjay: it's very comprehensive.
[10:02] <el> are u dialup?
[10:02] <elle> OK i might try it then
[10:02] <elle> me
[10:02] <Eleaf> self_, are you sure your putting the right file name in then?
[10:02] <elle>  no
[10:02] <el> ok
[10:03] <el> u on arouter?
[10:03] <elle> no
[10:03] <self_> yes it says no directory
[10:03] <el> direct to modem?
[10:03] <lightbright> el: stop trolling and stop giving wrong advice
[10:03] <Eleaf> self_, so you do this?  cd ~/path/to/binary ./binaryName
[10:03] <crocd> lightbright: you need a util like diskban todo that
[10:04] <lightbright> crocd: ok thanks
[10:04] <lightbright> crocd: is diskban available for ubuntu?
[10:04] <elle> i'll try a reinstall
[10:04] <crocd> i think it is called dban. let me check.
[10:04] <crocd> it is a bootable util which wipes with 1 and 0 up to nasa encrypted level
[10:04] <self_> i see so you have to direct ubuntu all the way to the file no matter where it is in the structure
[10:05] <lightbright> crocd: ok thanks
[10:05] <self_> you cannot open a term in the folder?#
[10:05] <lightbright> crocd: did you find it?
[10:05] <Eleaf> self_, of course
[10:05] <crocd> hang on wife is behind me
[10:06] <LazyAce`> lets say i installed the kubuntu-desktop, and it messed with my ubuntu install, how would i delete it?
[10:06] <LazyAce`> just figuratively speaking you know :o
[10:06] <steve_laptop> can someone help me with this - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=614677#post614677
[10:07] <self_> so to do a command like syslinux /dev/sda1 i would have to put all the other levels in front of the command
[10:07] <steve_laptop> brb
[10:07] <Kindred> self_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26668 , seems like it does what you want
[10:07] <self_> ok ill have a look thanks
[10:08] <Kindred> self_, alternatively you could right click a folder and select open with and then terminal - it will then add this option to the right click menu
[10:08] <crocd> lightbright: http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[10:08] <Eleaf> can somebody explain what ubuntu is doing when it is "Calculating Module Dependencies" at boot?
[10:08] <Kindred> but obviously you'd have to move up to the parent dir
[10:08] <phatmonkey^iBook> I'm having trouble with the kubuntu live cd... this is probably the best place, it's an X issue
[10:08] <phatmonkey^iBook> X won't start
[10:08] <sanjay> umm.. i just editted my sources.list file and uncommented the repositories... now i start Synaptic and it gives me a big error message: couldn't stat...... (i can post the details into paste-bin .. )
[10:08] <phatmonkey^iBook> I have a radeon x800pro, and it appears to be an ati driver issue
[10:09] <phatmonkey^iBook> switching to the vga driver works on 8 bit colour and 320x240 resolution
[10:09] <Kindred> sanjay, apt-get update
[10:09] <lightbright> crocd: i compile it?
[10:09] <sanjay> Kindred: <g> thanks ..
[10:10] <kobur> I am trying to install drivers for an ati radeon 9600 xt all in wonder card.  However I am a total beginner and don't know how.
[10:10] <LazyAce`> lets say i installed the kubuntu-desktop, and it messed with my ubuntu install, how would i delete kubuntu ?
[10:10] <phatmonkey^iBook> "PCI Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could be detected!"
[10:10] <Eleaf> can somebody explain what ubuntu is doing when it is "Calculating Module Dependencies" at boot?
[10:11] <Eleaf> hmm
[10:11] <PeteyPablo> !tell kobur about ati
[10:11] <lightbright> LazyAce`: why would you install kubuntu-desktop anyway?
[10:11] <LazyAce`> wanted to check out KDE
[10:11] <ice-t> LazyAce`, dpkg -P kubuntu-desktop i think
[10:11] <jt3k> LazyAce` : i had the opposite experience. started with kubuntu, added gnome and bang, everything's messed up
[10:11] <LazyAce`> yea
[10:11] <LazyAce`> lol
[10:11] <crocd> lightbright: brb
[10:11] <phatmonkey^iBook> dpkg-reconfigure solves nothing
[10:11] <ice-t> jt3k, me2. fonts...
[10:12] <LazyAce`> ice-t , says i require superuser access or sometshizz
[10:12] <geneo93> LazyAce`:  try just kde next time
[10:12] <elle> Eleaf: it's probably lib dependcies
[10:12] <LazyAce`> lol
[10:12] <oxez> LazyAce`: run with sudo
[10:12] <LazyAce`> o
[10:12] <LazyAce`> coarse lol
[10:12] <ice-t> or as root ;)
[10:12] <dereks_> would this be sufficient for my fstab if i want to mount an ext3 hdd on boot? /dev/sdb1       /mnt/sdb1       ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       0
[10:12] <ubuntu133> have some of you got an idea how to install  and write in some other languages in ubuntu ?
[10:12] <crocd> lightbright: did you check the link?
[10:13] <lightbright> crocd: yeah, so I need to compile it?
[10:13] <jt3k> ice-t: how did you fix it
[10:13] <ice-t> jt3k, i installed ubuntu kompletely new ^^
[10:13] <crocd> lightbright: it is a bootable linux cd/floppy whith which you wipe a hard drive. you cannot do it within linux afaik.
[10:13] <slim> my wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart. Bueller? :)
[10:13] <jt3k> haha just the same that i did
[10:13] <ice-t> sorry, my english is not that good...
[10:14] <jt3k> neither is mine
[10:14] <LazyAce`> ice-t :  this is what it says dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove kubuntu-desktop which isn't installed
[10:14] <phatmonkey^iBook> fixed, used the radeon driver
[10:14] <crocd> lightbright: Darik's Boot and Nuke ("DBAN") is a self-contained boot floppy that securely wipes the hard disks of most computers. DBAN will automatically and completely delete the contents of any hard disk that it can detect, which makes it an appropriate utility for bulk or emergency data destruction.
[10:14] <elle> can someone tell me where i can get browser and html help from? or a good irc search engine, i don't want to reinstall my browser
[10:14] <crocd> the first paragraph on the page. read it
[10:14] <LazyAce`> now, i did kind of 'sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop'
[10:14] <ice-t> hmm. i think kubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package
[10:14] <LazyAce`> its an ass package lol
[10:14] <lightbright> crocd: does dban recognise the Ubuntu hard drive or it only reads ntfs or fat32 hard drives?
[10:14] <PeteyPablo> ice-t: correct
[10:14] <kobur> Can someone help me with installing radeon drivers?  I downloaded the files, but don't know how to install them.
[10:14] <LazyAce`> only reads fat32 crocd:
[10:15] <LazyAce`> it'll read NTFS, but it wont read or right
[10:15] <LazyAce`> well, wont write to it
[10:15] <crocd> it wipes a drive regardless of the partition or format. thats all it is designed for. you select it per drive afaik. I havent used it per partition.
[10:15] <LazyAce`> PENIS
[10:16] <LazyAce`> LOL
[10:16] <LazyAce`> that wasn't supposed to go across networks
[10:16] <lightbright> LazyAce`: dban only reads fat32 hard drives?
[10:16] <LazyAce`> think so
[10:16] <LazyAce`> lemme check
[10:16] <LazyAce`> bb, restarting
[10:16] <crocd> lightbright: no it wipes the hard drive regardless of the partion i have wiped a gentoo build with it.
[10:17] <crocd> and NTFS
[10:17] <StarQuake> Laney, lol why did you say that?
[10:17] <lightbright> LazyAce`: you "think" so?  Well if you only THINK so, dont say statements that could be misleading
[10:17] <LazyAce`> i thought he was trying to read
[10:17] <lightbright> LazyAce`: check your data before you make comments please for accuracy
[10:17] <LazyAce`> but i lost the text
[10:17] <lightbright> crocd: ok thanks
[10:17] <LazyAce`> bb
[10:17] <lightbright> brb
[10:17] <kbrooks> I meed some help
[10:18] <crocd> lightbright: http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/520060/DBAN.html
[10:18] <slim> my wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart. Bueller? :)
[10:18] <kbrooks> i tried to unmount a ipod device. doesnt work. how do i disconnect it?
[10:18] <crocd> read that link it has a bit more info also mentions wiping paritions. because it is a linux boot cd it can read any partition. fat32, ntfs or any linux partition.
[10:18] <kbrooks> what will happen if i just unplug the ipod from the computer?
[10:18] <apokryphos> kbrooks: what's the error?
[10:19] <StarQuake> wow huge ban list here
[10:19] <kbrooks> apokryphos, unknown argument, i think
[10:19] <apokryphos> kbrooks: generally not a good idea. I always unmount it, listen to it and wait till it stops spinning, then unplug. Seems safest.
[10:19] <kbrooks> apokryphos, i cant hear
[10:19] <Dio^Brando> hi i've a problem and i don't know what to do...i've installed the nvidia drivers correctly (apt) but they don't work and Xorg.log doesn't have any EE string...
[10:19] <kbrooks> apokryphos, i dont own this ipod
[10:19] <heishiro> Hello. One question... If i need to install ubuntu on an intel pentium D 3.0GHz processor, should i use the AMD 64 Bits one?... I mean, my processor is EMT64, dual core... i should use the 64bits version right?
[10:19] <self_> Kindred...your thread works brilliantly
[10:19] <apokryphos> kbrooks: umount /media/ipod  gives "unknown argument"?
[10:20] <self_> i can now open a terminal in any folder
[10:20] <kbrooks> apokryphos, nautilus
[10:20] <crocd> kbrooks: arfe you sure of the mount path?
[10:20] <kobur> Well, thanks anyway.
[10:20] <apokryphos> kbrooks: ditch that
[10:20] <kbrooks> it tries to eject the device
[10:20] <kbrooks> i didn't mount it myself
[10:20] <apokryphos> doesn't matter
[10:20] <ice-t> kbrooks, look up, what device your ipod is with "mount"
[10:20] <kbrooks> i plugged in & it was auto detected
[10:20] <self_> is kindred still here?
[10:20] <kbrooks> ice-t, already unmounted
[10:21] <lightbright> crocd: can you tell dban to wipe the hard drives you chose? OR does it automatically wipe anything it finds?  Because I only want to wipe hdb1 and not hda
[10:21] <apokryphos> kbrooks: auto-detected = auto-mounted
[10:21] <levander> Is /sbin/grub-install supposed to rewrite menu.lst?
[10:21] <Kindred> self_: sure..
[10:21] <crocd> lightbright: you can choose your hard drive. you will see when it boots up it gives you hard drives to select for wiping.
[10:22] <kbrooks> apokryphos, i unmounted it
[10:22] <self_> why is this code not in ubuntu already..it is so brilliant
[10:22] <geneo93> i have a util that will wipe entire machine including bios
[10:22] <self_> your thread works well
[10:22] <crocd> self_: what code?
[10:22] <self_> i can now open a terminal in a folder#
[10:22] <kbrooks> apokryphos, its not in mount
[10:22] <lightbright> crocd: ok thanks
[10:23] <lightbright> crocd: take long to wipe a 10 gig hard drive?
[10:23] <kbrooks> apokryphos, eject doesnt do it
[10:23] <apokryphos> kbrooks: safe to listen to hear if it's working, if not -- unmount it
[10:23] <apokryphos> *unplug it
[10:23] <Kindred> self_: actually I was just looking and there is a program called nautilus-open-terminal which I just installed via apt-get, it seems like it does the same thing though
[10:23] <self_> it is a thread that lets you open a terminal in a folder so you dont have to type the path to execut a file
[10:23] <Chousuke> thread?
[10:24] <Chousuke> wtf do you mean with a thread?
[10:24] <self_> well the code i used from the thread works
[10:24] <Chousuke> ah, a script or something?
[10:24] <crocd> lightbright: a while depends on the level of wiping you go for. cant remember the time fram exactly. About 20 min for 10 gb i think.
[10:24] <Chousuke> URL please.
[10:24] <veriz> anyone can tel me whats wrong with my mysql: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[10:25] <self_> well your help is apprectiated..thanks
[10:25] <Kindred>  veriz, mysql -u root -p
[10:25] <veriz> Kindred: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[10:25] <self_> thats the trouble with app get you need to know exactly what it does ..lol
[10:25] <lightbright> crocd: ok
[10:27] <self_> kindred.. could you let gnome know what i was on about..
[10:27] <thoeger> Hi folks - My disk space is limited, so I wondered if there was any way to get rid of alle the unnused .debs in  /var/cache/apt/archives?
[10:27] <kbrooks> apokryphos, someone near me is asking me what unmount means
[10:27] <thoeger> Is it safe to removedhe
[10:27] <kbrooks> apokryphos, do you know?
[10:28] <thoeger> remove them manually - sorry....
[10:28] <slim> my wpa setup went well, but when I rebooted, I didnt have connectivity until I used invoke-rc.d networking restart. Bueller? :)
[10:28] <geneo93> thoeger:  apt-get clean
[10:28] <apokryphos> kbrooks: think about what the world means literally
[10:28] <Kindred> veriz: have you set up a password for mysql..
[10:28] <apokryphos> kbrooks: any devices on your computer need to be "mounted" to be "on" the computer
[10:28] <thoeger> geneo93: is that all? wheee...
[10:29] <apokryphos> or for them to be detected
[10:29] <geneo93> yes susdo for you though
[10:29] <self_> any way happy new year to all and ill catch you later....
[10:29] <geneo93> sudo i mean
[10:30] <thoeger> geneo93: yup, figured that... thanx. Is there a GUI way to do that in synaptics?  It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[10:39] <Dio^Brando> geneo93:  are you still there?
[10:39] <Seveas> argh, some moron chanted it
[10:39] <geneo93> Dio^Brando:  yes
[10:39] <jono> if I compile a kernel for an amd64 processor but I am running x86 (32-bit) applications, will it cause a problem?
[10:39] <jt3k> i ask because i have tried 3 or 4 distros and none had dma access enabled by default
[10:39] <Dio^Brando> geneo93:  any hint?
[10:39] <jc-denton> well thx4info
[10:39] <nalioth> Dio^Brando: let us hope you suffer no ill effects from its use
[10:39] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[10:39] <ubotu> ...but ubuntuguide is already something else...
[10:40] <Seveas> !no ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[10:40] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[10:40] <Dio^Brando> nalioth:  oh...!
[10:40] <vrln> Seveas: is the guy who wrote the original ubuntuguide part of the crew that made that official version?
[10:40] <clast> is it possible to use an ipod nano with linux/gtkpod
[10:40] <Seveas> no
[10:40] <vrln> looks quite similar at least :)
[10:40] <vrln> ah
[10:40] <geneo93> maybe nvidia drivers from nvisia are best but i did complete reinstall for them
[10:40] <nalioth> vrln: which is why we don't recommend it, it doesnt keep up with progress
[10:40] <Seveas> the guy who created ubuntuguide.org is an uncooperative fool who spreads bad information
[10:41] <apokryphos> vrln: similar? The documentation isn't remotely similar. The official docs *explain* things
[10:41] <Dio^Brando> nalioth:  can you help me about nvidia drivers and xorg?
[10:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Dio^Brando about nvidia
[10:41] <vrln> apokryphos: yeah, well, I mostly meant the concept; ie, quick question and answer :) (haven't actually read the official one, sorry for being unclear)
[10:42] <Dio^Brando> geneo93:  the weird thing is that xorg doen'st give any error!this is the xorg.log file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6391
[10:42] <geneo93> look in home dir for xsession errors
[10:42] <Dio^Brando> geneo93:  where exactly
[10:43] <geneo93> file:///home/kane/.xsession-errors
[10:44] <SealyDave> what does the number(x) mean in the kernel version ex. 2.6.12-x?
[10:44] <StarQuake> it's the ubuntu release
[10:44] <kbrooks> i need help
[10:44] <SealyDave> the kernel
[10:44] <Dio^Brando> geneo nothing useful...
[10:45] <StarQuake> SealyDave, everytime they release a kernel with ubuntu patches it increases
[10:45] <kbrooks> i need help
[10:45] <SealyDave> k
[10:45] <geneo93> well it may not be there if it crashes
[10:45] <robotgeek> kbrooks: please be more descriptive
[10:45] <SealyDave> i cant seem to startx in -10 , have to use -9
[10:45] <kbrooks> some music on the iPod isn't showing up on it.
[10:45] <kbrooks> what gives
[10:46] <geneo93> maybe you dont have codecs for some
[10:46] <kbrooks> no, "on the iPod"
[10:46] <SealyDave> the latest kernel path is what?
[10:46] <SealyDave> *patch
[10:47] <kbrooks> SealyDave, god knows
[10:47] <Stork> how come whenever i do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" it just gives me "* reconfiguring network interfaces..." and then nothing? it just freezes
[10:47] <mwe> Stork: you gotta check dmesg and the log files in /var/log/
[10:48] <SealyDave> do you guys know where i can find a text file with all the nix comands and descriptions ?
[10:48] <Stork> the who with the what?
[10:48] <geneo93> Stork:  i am forced to use a different distro because ubuntu wont network here
[10:48] <mwe> SealyDave: all of them. no. but sudo apt-get rutebook is a good start
[10:48] <Stork> it's usually alright
[10:48] <crocd> SealyDave: it will be a large file
[10:48] <hmp_> SealyDave: TAB; TAB
[10:48] <Stork> i'm trying to get ubuntu to keep a fixed bloody ip address
[10:48] <Stork> instead of using dhcp
[10:48] <Stork> i set it up on my router
[10:49] <gnu2it2> any ubuntu/sparc folks here?
[10:49] <Stork> but i don't know how to do it over the command line
[10:49] <robotgeek> gnu2it2: afaik, ubuntu doesn't run on the sparc
[10:49] <binarydigit> Stork: ifconfig
[10:49] <robotgeek> gnu2it2: you would have to use debian/gentoo
[10:49] <geneo93> stork sudo ifconfig <IP_ADDRESS> or what ever addy your using
[10:50] <Aron_Figaro> Hey everyone.
[10:50] <geneo93> oh forgot the eth0
[10:50] <gnu2it2> http://sparc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-sparc/dists/breezy/restricted/debian-installer/binary-sparc/
[10:50] <Aron_Figaro> Anyone here get VisualBoyAdvance working under Wine 0.93/4? I've been hearing a bit about it on the forums but can't get any details.
[10:50] <gnu2it2> but i',m looking for install ISO disk
[10:50] <geneo93> Stork:  sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:50] <Stork> yeh i guessed the eth0 part ;p
[10:51] <Stork> ok so far it's  just doing nothing
[10:51] <Stork> my router detects it as working
[10:51] <binarydigit> you need to set the gateway and dns and subnet mask too
[10:51] <Stork> and connected
[10:51] <jt3k> Aron_Figaro : theres a native linux version of vba
[10:51] <geneo93> did nothing for me as well only on different distro
[10:51] <Stork> they are the same
[10:51] <alvaro> hi, how can i download/install opera on breezy 5.10?
[10:51] <Stork> but the command line isn't doing anything
[10:52] <Stork> it's crashed
[10:52] <Stork> again
[10:52] <geneo93> the dhcp3 sucks
[10:52] <vrln> alvaro: go to opera.com, download the .deb package, and sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[10:52] <Stork> i feel a manual restart is in order
[10:52] <SAM_theman> yo people long time no see :D
[10:53] <Aron_Figaro> jt3k: Yes but it sucks.
[10:53] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell alvaro about opera
[10:54] <Aron_Figaro> jt3k: It's a positively ancient build, and doesn't even run with a GUI. I can almost guarantee running the newer builds in Wine to work better
[10:54] <SealyDave> so i did a manual install, a easyubuntu install and a automatix install but cant get jre running on this badboy
[10:54] <jt3k> what do you dislike about it?
[10:54] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell SealyDave about java
[10:54] <mgw> is it possible to get write access to my connected digicam?
[10:55] <jt3k> I don't use it much so it has been enough for me
[10:55] <ice-t> ubotu: tell ice-t about java
[10:55] <GnarlyBob> write access?
[10:55] <SealyDave> dude i know ive been there
[10:55] <Stork> FUFCCFFUIFCFCU*CCKCUFRF(PUT
[10:55] <SealyDave> im on tier 3 troubleshooting
[10:55] <Stork> it wont fucking work
[10:55] <crocd> Stork: if i remember correctly you need to ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> mask <IP_ADDRESS> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:55] <apokryphos> Stork: language, please.
[10:55] <Stork> sorry :(
[10:55] <jt3k> a positive aspect if it is that you can load savegames from the windows version
[10:55] <Stork> technically, i didn't manage to say it
[10:55] <mgw> GnarlyBob: yes, i want to write some pictures to my cameras storage card
[10:55] <Aron_Figaro> jt3k: Speed mostly
[10:56] <Aron_Figaro> jt3k: and I've never gotten sound to work properly in it
[10:56] <GnarlyBob> I didn't know that was possible, but I don't know much about such devices either
[10:56] <Aron_Figaro> jt3k: gak! Just found out why it's slow - binary's compiled from SDL ><
[10:56] <_Lestat_> Anyone have any idea why a wireless device would give me fast transferes in windows but not over 400 kB/s in linux?
[10:57] <Aron_Figaro> jt3k: WTF were those guys smoking? No wonder 1.8 is a total rebuild
[10:57] <SealyDave> MTU settings
[10:57] <McJerry> MTU
[10:57] <levander> Can someone tell me why when i 'mount /dev/hda3 /mnt', then 'chroot /mnt', then just a 'mount' it is reported that /dev/hdb3 is mounted on /?
[10:57] <jt3k> mmm bad stuff
[10:57] <SealyDave> ha i said it first
[10:57] <Stork> crocd, that sort of works. the router accepts it, but it crashes the ssh session (it just freezes)
[10:57] <globe> Help: How do I get ubuntu to seek name servers ?  If I target xchat at irc.freenode.net, it seeks ip:<IP_ADDRESS>.  If I target it at freenode.net's ip, it works fine.
[10:58] <Kyral> globe: are you on a Linksys Wireless Router?
[10:58] <crocd> levander: once you mount something you cannot remount it. you first have to unmount it
[10:58] <Stork> crocd, will that work even if i restart?
[10:58] <levander> crocd: how am i remounting something?
[10:58] <SealyDave> all this talk about mounting makes me want to whack off
[10:58] <crocd> yep but check what it IFCONFIG SAYS
[10:58] <globe> Kyral:nope, I am on a linksys wired switch->dsl gateway (serving dhcp from dsl)
[10:58] <sanjay> globe: add the DNS server you are using to resolv.conf .. what does your /etc/resolv.conf file show ?
[10:58] <Kyral> globe: Mine hates me too
[10:59] <Kyral> globe: lemme guess no DNS?
[10:59] <crocd> levander: if you mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/music
[10:59] <SealyDave> use <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:59] <jt3k> does anyone know how to sync a pocket pc with kubuntu (kontact or something like that)? just point me to a good link, I've failed everytime I tried
[10:59] <Stork> crocd, what am i looking for?
[10:59] <levander> crocd: are you explaining something? i'm not doing that
[10:59] <crocd> levander: then you have to umount it otherwise mount produces an error. it is like trying to wake someone whom is already awake.
[11:00] <crocd> levander: what did you mount it as?
[11:00] <sanjay> Kyral, globe - yea, for some reason my resolv.conf keeps auto-resetting itself to <IP_ADDRESS> which doesn't work --- manually changing the DNS server there and doing a "chattr +i resolv.conf" worked for me .
[11:00] <globe> kyral,sanjay: my dns servers are in there. I thought of that too.  The servers in there are my dsl gateway and the dns from my provider
[11:00] <levander> crocd: yes, i know that, but when am I trying to remount something?  I mount, then I chroot.  That's it
[11:00] <crocd> aaah.
[11:00] <Kyral> globe: you are better off than I. DNS ain't working good for me
[11:01] <crocd> are you as root levander?
[11:01] <levander> crocd: 1.) 'mount /dev/hda3 /mnt', 2.) 'chroot /mnt', and 3.) 'mount' - this last command reports that /dev/hdb3 is mounted on /
[11:01] <Kyral> sanjay: what did you change your DNS to?
[11:01] <levander> crocd: yes, as root
[11:01] <Kyral> sanjay: its set to my ISP's server
[11:01] <SealyDave> sounds like you need to disable DHCP on router
[11:01] <globe> sanjay: what is a chattr cmd?
[11:01] <PeteyPablo> change attribute
[11:01] <levander> globe: chmod
[11:01] <Kyral> Change Attributes
[11:02] <PeteyPablo> like +X
[11:02] <sanjay> Kyral: provided by my ISP -- <IP_ADDRESS> -- it resets it to the gateway address which is generally ok but my isp is weird and uses a separate DNS server ..
[11:02] <Kyral> It seems to be specific to ext2/3
[11:02] <Kyral> hmm
[11:02] <globe> lavender: I C.
[11:02] <Kyral> mine is set to the ISP's address
[11:02] <crocd> levander: why are you mounting it as /mnt, normally you should have a folder specified under that other wise it might not work
[11:02] <_Lestat_> Anyone have any idea why a wireless device would give me fast transferes in windows but not over 400 kB/s in linux?
[11:02] <Kyral> I'm gonna upgrade my firmware
[11:02] <SealyDave> MTU settings
[11:02] <sanjay> globe: chattr is just to make a file "immutable" -- excluding write permissions for all users, basically .. but if the problem is not with resolv.conf and DNS servers, ignore .
[11:02] <SealyDave> get on it
[11:02] <crocd> levander: out of curiosity what are you trying to do?
[11:02] <Kyral> and hack the code
[11:02] <levander> crocd: mounting on /mnt works fine, i've been doing it for years
[11:02] <Stork> crocd, what exactly am i looking for in "ifconfig" ? it says <IP_ADDRESS> as the ip
[11:03] <levander> crocd: reinstall grub
[11:03] <Stork> will it keep that when i restart?
[11:03] <Kyral> I love it ebing GPL'd :D
[11:03] <coz> hello all
[11:03] <crocd> ahh!
[11:03] <steve_laptop> brb
[11:03] <alvaro> when i try installing opera it says i need these:
[11:03] <darkzero> hi
[11:03] <alvaro> xlib6g, xlibs
[11:04] <crocd> Stork: it should say ip: then bcast then mask
[11:04] <SealyDave> where can i submit a ticket for ubuntu?  lol
[11:04] <binarydigit> alvaro: so you gonna install them
[11:04] <coz> ] apt-get install xlibs
[11:04] <alvaro> i get this when i do sudo apt-get install xlibs:
[11:04] <alvaro> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:04] <alvaro>   opera: Depends: libqt3c102-mt but it is not installable
[11:04] <darkzero> someone knows how to fix a tcl/tk related problem with amsn? ._.
[11:05] <McJerry> levander: question: exactly what fs and os is on /dev/hdda3?
[11:05] <McJerry> hda3 i meant
[11:05] <coz> alvaro at the risk of these "people" coming down on me just use automatix to install opera works lika charm
[11:05] <Stork> crocd, ok, good. will it keep that when i restart?
[11:05] <alvaro> i live in the U.S though, it says it's illegal :-S
[11:06] <MayorMcCheese> Anyone have ideas on how to get a dell true mobile internal wireless card to work in ubuntu
[11:06] <coz> alvaro most things are legal for personal use that is the licensing in the US
[11:06] <robotgeek> MayorMcCheese, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:06] <robotgeek> coz: it is for a reason, i believe
[11:06] <coz> it is legal for personal use
[11:06] <alvaro> how do i get automatix :S
[11:06] <crocd> yep once it has accepted it it should. check to see if you can ping a ip address Stork
[11:06] <Stork> i can
[11:06] <darkzero> (amsn won't start... I think it's something related with the WISH interpreter... and xrgb)
[11:07] <coz> wait iw ill get the url
[11:07] <Dio^Brando> ok i've installed the nvidia drivers correctly and i found that Load "glx" gives black screen...it's just like xorg crashes when it tryes to load the glx module
[11:07] <crocd> then it should work, try to restart ssh
[11:07] <robotgeek> MayorMcCheese: see if your card is listed somewhere on that page
[11:07] <SealyDave> alvaro: easyubuntu is better
[11:07] <coz> alvaro     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[11:07] <Stork> is there a way to make the scp command not overwrite files?
[11:07] <coz> alvaro are you using breezy?
[11:07] <alvaro> yea
[11:08] <coz> great if you have hardware issues automatix will work
[11:08] <darkzero> Dio^Brando hai installato la versione giusta della patch per il kernel?
[11:08] <coz> if youhave NO hardware issues
[11:08] <richard_> does windows xp need to be on the first partition?
[11:08] <Dio^Brando> darkzero:  patch?
[11:08] <coz> always install xp first
[11:08] <crocd> levander: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html. Have you checked this
[11:09] <richard_> coz: on the first partition?
[11:09] <coz> I really don't think it matters which paritition but installation matters
[11:09] <coz> it is always safer when dual booting with xp tpo install xp first
[11:09] <SealyDave> yup
[11:10] <coz> but I have seen some people have problems in any way they install
[11:10] <coz> if you are used to dual booting you should know what to do after that
[11:10] <SealyDave> buy a p3 for 100 bcks
[11:10] <locsmif> Hi, I'm testing a script that detects X version, would anybody like to help me out and show me the output of this line? (I need to know if it fucntions correctly with X.Org as well as Xfree86)
[11:10] <darkzero> Dio^Brando look at the driver page in the Nvidia homesite... once upon a time nv drivers comes with a kernel patch
[11:11] <locsmif> xdpyinfo | awk '/version:/ { print $NF }'
[11:11] <locsmif> that's the line
[11:11] <locsmif> should give something back like "6.8.2"
[11:11] <locsmif> or similar
[11:11] <coz> hold on locsmif
[11:11] <darkzero> Dio^Brando or, maybe, now this patch is autocompiled from the nvidia-installer :S uhm
[11:11] <Dio^Brando> darkzero:  so italiano pure io c'avevi visto bene prima!sto diventando scemo con sti driver nvidia
[11:11] <Dio^Brando> ho provato sia ad installare quelli ufficiali dal sito nvidia che con apt
[11:11] <vilefridge> Hello! :)  I just installed a new motherboard and Ubuntu 5.10 refuses to boot entirely.  I receive an error stating that the XServer cannot be loaded.  I believe that this is the graphical environment.  How can I 'repair' my installation without losing my current configuration.. so that my new motherboard functions?
[11:11] <darkzero> Dio^Brando a anch'io so' Italiano, ma me pareva maleducato qua 'ffa er burino :P
[11:11] <coz> got the exact niuumbers
[11:12] <robotgeek> locsmif: 6.8.2
[11:12] <Renich> Hi guys
[11:12] <coz> locsmif I got the same numbers
[11:12] <Renich> need guideance
[11:12] <robotgeek> !it
[11:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:12] <darkzero> Dio^Brando You see? ._.
[11:12] <locsmif> robotgeek, coz , great! :)
[11:12] <Dio^Brando> darkzero:  isee..
[11:12] <Renich> im 'considering' on installing ubuntu... why should I? any strenghts?
[11:12] <yatesy> oh please
[11:12] <darkzero> Dio^Brando see you on ubuntu-it
[11:12] <globe> vilefridge: I had that same problem.  try "dpkg_reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:12] <ossie> !tell ossie repositories
[11:12] <coNP> what is the default SMTP server in ubuntu?
[11:12] <skon> vilefridge: hit Ctrl+Alt+Bkspace to go into textual mode....from there....you'll need to do some hardware research and troubleshooting
[11:12] <Dio^Brando> darkzero:  i'm already there
[11:13] <globe> vilefridge no quotes
[11:13] <robotgeek> coNP: postfix, i believe
[11:13] <ossie> !tell ossie repositry
[11:13] <robotgeek> globe, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:13] <coz> DioBrando ciao
[11:13] <ossie> !tell ossie repositories
[11:13] <crocd> locsmif: 6.8.2
[11:13] <fredforfaen> im trying to compile openbox but i get this error ;  The X Window System could not be found.
[11:13] <fredforfaen>  what should i do?
[11:13] <coz> Has anyone here tried the app "sketch" and if so did you get it work?
[11:13] <vilefridge> globe, skon: thanks!  I'll give that a shot =)
[11:13] <cptmorgan> i installed and started portmap but when i try to mount nfs shares i get RPC program not found
[11:14] <robotgeek> ubotu tell fredforfaen about xincludes
[11:14] <skon> sure
[11:14] <locsmif> crocd, ok, excellent
[11:14] <ossie> !tell ossie repository
[11:14] <ossie> !tell ossie repositorys
[11:14] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell ossie repos
[11:14] <globe> robotgeek. right.
[11:14] <fredforfaen> robotgeek thanx :)
[11:14] <kemik> !tell ossie about repositories
[11:14] <ossie> !tell ossie repos
[11:14] <skon> ubotu: tell ossuie about repositories
[11:14] <ossie> cheers
[11:14] <Renich> !tell ossie about repositories
[11:14] <kemik> spam! :)
[11:14] <Renich> haha
[11:14] <skon> :-D
[11:15] <globe> how do I make my eth0 look at dhcp on boot?
[11:15] <Renich> 10 secs
[11:15] <coz> again has anyone used the app "sketch" and have you gotten it to work?
[11:15] <robotgeek> globe: add auto eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:15] <Renich> hey, are you guys happy with ubuntu?
[11:15] <Renich> please tell me the weaknesses!
[11:15] <ossie> where is the one that generates a list for u ???? please
[11:15] <coz> VERY HAPPY WITH UBUNTU
[11:15] <bob832> Renich: very happy with ubuntu
[11:15] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell ossie about easysource
[11:15] <Renich> ok, why?!
[11:16] <coz> applications generally suck
[11:16] <coz> I like it because I make money from it
[11:16] <Renich> lol
[11:16] <jt3k> best hardware support so far in my linux usage experience
[11:16] <Renich> any good things to say about it? or is it just markenting "good"
[11:16] <ossie> gracias
[11:16] <coz> In all seriousness I never liked linux or  unix other than irix but ubuntu has sold me over to linux
[11:16] <Kindred> I like it very much. =]
[11:17] <robotgeek> Renich: you get  "out of the box" experience
[11:17] <bob832> Renich: my reasons:  easy to setup, great hardware support, plenty of documentation, friendly community
[11:17] <egkamp> Renich: I've had ubuntu installed for only about 8 hours, and I'm impressed that everything worked "out of the box", and it seems snappy
[11:17] <coz> It is stabel enough for me to switch some of my residential clients from xp to ubuntu without too much worry
[11:17] <polpak> bob832, more than just a friendly community. It's a big community.
[11:17] <fizz> How do I get multiple displays on ubuntu?
[11:17] <globe> robotgeek: will that also work for my wireless card?
[11:17] <sanjay> Renich: its free, and it works beautifully -- something i could setup even for my mom and know she'll be able to use .. and the IRC support is great for any complex issues ..
[11:17] <polpak> bob832, more people makes it much easier to find solutions to your problems
[11:17] <Renich> bob832: I'm looking for other kind of reasons... like, uptodate software, great filesystem usage, standard compilance, etc
[11:18] <robotgeek> globe: what?
[11:18] <bob832> polpak:  that too
[11:18] <coz> These channesl have many people willing to help unless they get some thing stuck in their crack
[11:18] <robotgeek> yes, Renich we are very nice ppl
[11:18] <Renich> ok, anyone used Fedora Core here?
[11:18] <polpak> Renich, yes
[11:18] <bob832> Renich:  lol, i have
[11:18] <polpak> Renich, I've used both core 4 and core 3
[11:18] <Renich> any comparisson notes?
[11:18] <hmp_> will ubuntu detect my external usb hdd, conected to my notebook via pcmcia usb2.0 card (nec chipset) ?
[11:19] <globe> robotgeek: I added auto eth0 to my /etc/network/interfaces .  will that work for my wifi card when i install it?
[11:19] <polpak> Renich, I find it much easier to find software that does what I want in ubuntu
[11:19] <egkamp> I had to install and configure Fedora Core in my Operating Systems class, once, but I've never actually used it
[11:19] <robotgeek> globe: yes
[11:19] <sanjay> Renich: standard compliance is the only issue i think, for eg. setting up my wireless card is still a bitch, but thats getting better .
[11:19] <Mandor-> Okay, I have a problem and I'm hopping you guys could help me. I just installed Ubuntu Hoary but it didn't detect my SigmaTel C-Major sound chipset, can anyone give me a pointer on how to install it properly?
[11:19] <bob832> Renich:  all i can say is that ubuntu is 100 times easier to setup than fedora
[11:19] <globe> robotgeek: cool thanks alot...saves me from bringing it up each time ;-)
[11:19] <Tachyon> I can't play a DVD in Totem, because I get a permission error.  When I run Totem as root, I get another error and this long error in Konsole: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/484687
[11:19] <JDahl> is there no pygtk package for AMD64?
[11:19] <mwe> egkamp: heh. they actually made install fedora in OS class?
[11:19] <polpak> Renich, fedora often required me to search all over the internet to find required dependancies to various software packages. And I often had to build them from source
[11:19] <Renich> what about the standard directory hierarchy?
[11:19] <polpak> Tachyon, don't run totem as root
[11:20] <bob832> Renich:  like someone mentioned eariler, its that "out-of-box" experience that makes it so great
[11:20] <robotgeek> globe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[11:20] <mwe> egkamp: made you install it that is
[11:20] <globe> robotgeek: cool. thanks.
[11:20] <egkamp> we installed fedora and win2000 on local networks, yep
[11:20] <Renich> ok, thanx guys for the input... so far the veredict is that ubuntu is more beautiful than anything... right?
[11:20] <sanjay> Renich: ext3, standard linux i think -- uses /etc , /var, /home , /boot, etc ..
[11:20] <coz> Renich if you don't have any high end needs ubuntu is the way to go unles you want to buy red hat
[11:21] <Tachyon> polpak: Okay, so how do I get DVDs running while not running Totem as root?
[11:21] <polpak> Renich, it is much easier to "just use" than any other linux I've seen
[11:21] <Renich> not at all coz... just asking
[11:21] <bob832> i agree
[11:21] <Canoeingkidd> I need help with fsck - I had to shut down ubuntu the wrong way and now the filesystem must be messed up
[11:21] <egkamp> Renich: I used to use Mandrake, but I got tired of everything pointing me to a mandrake site...
[11:21] <polpak> Tachyon, what's the error you get when you don't run as root?
[11:21] <spola> if i paste ubuntu's source in debian's sources.list and run apt-get (dist-?)upgrade, will i fubar things ?
[11:21] <coz> Tachyon do you have all of your libs etc installed
[11:21] <Renich> well, support is defenetly important
[11:21] <egkamp> Renich: for instance, opening XChat would automaticly log me into #mandriva, regardless of what i was doing...
[11:21] <Renich> but its not as uptodate as I want it to be...
[11:21] <Tachyon> polpak: "Failed to open device /dev/hdc for reading: Permission denied"
[11:22] <Renich> yeah, i get the idea egkamp
[11:22] <egkamp> likeside, even lynx went to their site
[11:22] <polpak> Tachyon, ok, so you need to give your user access to the disks
[11:22] <mwe> in mandrake, you can get commercial support, right?
[11:22] <Canoeingkidd> fsck asked me if I want to clone multiply-claimed blocks....do I?
[11:22] <existance> doesn't ctrl + backspace restart X ?
[11:22] <egkamp> changing config files only worked until an update, and mandrake over wrote everything
[11:22] <Seveas> mwe, for Ubuntu too :)
[11:22] <locsmif> well, I also asked in #debian to some XFree86 users..
[11:22] <Tachyon> polpak: Okay.  I've looked at fstab but I'm not quite sure how to edit it to do that . . . if editing fstab is even the proper way to go :D
[11:22] <mwe> existance: ctrl-alt-bs
[11:22] <locsmif> it seems to work
[11:22] <StarQuake> existance, ctrl-alt-bs iirc
[11:22] <locsmif> thanks guys :)
[11:22] <mwe> Seveas: really?
[11:22] <polpak> Tachyon, it's not the fstab
[11:22] <polpak> Tachyon, it's your user account
[11:23] <Seveas> mwe, ubuntu.com/support/supportoptions/paidsupport
[11:23] <polpak> Tachyon, go to System->Administration->Users & Groups
[11:23] <mwe> Seveas: I see. I had no idea
[11:23] <Renich> well thanx a lot guys for the opinion and info!
[11:23] <Falstius> is there a stable flash plugin for 64bit ubuntu yet?
[11:23] <Renich> well, be seing ya! bye
[11:23] <shawarma> Canoeingkidd: Most of the time, fsck knows what to do.
[11:24] <bob832> Renich: bye
[11:24] <shawarma> Canoeingkidd: So yes, you probably want to do that.
[11:24] <olicat> is there any reason i can ssh from my server to my client, and the client can ping the server - but i can't ssh from the client TO the server?
[11:24] <Canoeingkidd> shawarma, thanks
[11:24] <shawarma> Canoeingkidd: Any time.
[11:24] <globe> dns problems: firefox wont resolve names....all others do.  do I have to direct firefox at my resolv.conf manually?
[11:24] <Falstius> olicat: the server isn't running ssh?
[11:24] <Mandor-> exit
[11:25] <olicat> Falstius, i've installed it and restarted /etc/init.d/ssh
[11:25] <bob832> olicat:  perhaps a firewall on the client is blocking the ssh port?
[11:25] <cctecxp> oi
[11:25] <bob832> olicat:  opps, i mean the server
[11:26] <olicat> bob832, it's a stock ubuntu install. i dont think it has one, does it?
[11:26] <olicat> bob832, yeah, the server. it's running ubuntu
[11:26] <MarcN> globe: shouldn't have to do anything.  From the command line can you do this:     $ host www.cnn.com   ?
[11:26] <markive> i managed to get online with wireless on a linksys wap54g today on a dell d600 :) took some fiddling
[11:26] <Sepheebear> olicat: try ssh -vv server
[11:26] <Tachyon> polpak: What do I need to modify there?  What do I have to change about my user account?
[11:27] <cafuego> !find 2ico
[11:27] <nekostar> olicat, see thats the thing
[11:27] <alex323> Hey
[11:27] <polpak> If you go to the properties of your account under the user privileges
[11:27] <nekostar> it is sort of firewalled on a default install
[11:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of '2ico' (2 shown): (/usr/share/pixmaps/{cbm2icon-32x28.xpm|cbm2icon-48x42.xpm}) in multiverse/otherosfs/vice ;; (/usr/share/mantis/gui/images/{excel2icon.gif|pdf2icon.gif|word2icon.gif}) in universe/web/mantis.
[11:27] <alex323> What package is start-stop-daemon apart of?
[11:27] <polpak> Tachyon, you should check the 'Use CD-ROM drives'
[11:27] <cctecxp> alguem do BRASIL
[11:27] <nekostar> from what i can gather it acts stealthed or so
[11:28] <cctecxp> BRASIL
[11:28] <erUSUL> ubotu, tell cctecxp about pt
[11:28] <Falstius> olicat, you could try "nmap server.name" and see if the ssh port is open
[11:28] <cctecxp> BRASIL
[11:28] <cctecxp> BRASIL
[11:28] <cctecxp> BRASIL
[11:28] <cctecxp> BRASIL
[11:28] <olicat> nekostar, it is?
[11:28] <cctecxp> BRASILBRASIL
[11:28] <MayorMcCheese> how about extended desktop on ubuntu?  When I connect a second monitor it only creates an enlarged version of my current desktop on monitor 1
[11:28] <globe> host google.com
[11:28] <erUSUL> cctecxp, stop it
[11:28] <polpak> nekostar, no, there are no firewall settings on default ubuntu
[11:28] <coz> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page
[11:28] <MayorMcCheese> Does anyone have ideas on that?
[11:28] <Zambba> starckjohann
[11:29] <MarcN> MayorMcCheese: google around for 'dual head'.
[11:29] <globe> MarcN: yep.  ping and whois also work from within X. firefox only finds websites if I feed it the url
[11:29] <polpak> olicat, by default ubuntu doesn't install an ssh server
[11:29] <Falstius> MayorMcCheese: or twinview or xinerama
[11:29] <cafuego> !find wico
[11:29] <ubotu> xpm2wico: (An Xpm to Windows .ico converter), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 13 kB, Installed size: 80 kB
[11:29] <nekostar> polpak, im telling you how it acts
[11:30] <nekostar> it doesnt play nice with my linksys router etc
[11:30] <MarcN> globe: do you have firefox set to use a proxy?  What do you mean by 'feed it the url'?
[11:30] <mwe> cafuego: you know you can use apt-cache search and spare us the spam?
[11:30] <Sepheebear> MayorMcCheese: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors
[11:31] <stark-johan> I've installed apache and it works fine but one thing I dont get. How do I restart it to make config changes without rebooting?
[11:31] <mwe> cafuego: or /msg the bot
[11:31] <yves---> Hi there, got a prob:  terminal shuts down upon opening.  Guess I messed with the "default terminal", I renamed it :o( within the profiles setup.  Can someone assist?
[11:31] <robotgeek> cafuego: :)
[11:31] <globe> MarcN: I meant 'feed it the ip' .  Firefox is set to 'direct internet connection' (all proxy features off)
[11:31] <apokryphos> mwe: might be worth noting that ubotu is cafuego's bot :)
[11:31] <cafuego> mwe: No, really? I can /msg it?
[11:31] <mwe> stark-johan: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[11:31] <hosler> Help! I installed a new cpu fan, but now my computer wont start.
[11:31] <Sepheebear> stark-johan: /etc/init.d/apache restart
[11:31] <mwe> apokryphos: I see.
[11:31] <mwe> :)
[11:32] <robotgeek> lol
[11:32] <PeteyPablo> hosler: did you ground your self when installing it?
[11:32] <globe> hosler: is it plugged in correctly (not backwards?)
[11:32] <Falstius> hosler, that could be a lot of things.  If you don't want to damage your computer, you should probably take it to a computer expert or repair service.
[11:32] <hosler> PeteyPablo: yes
[11:32] <hosler> globe: yes
[11:32] <olicat> hmm, now nothing works on the server. no web, apt, etc - but still irc
[11:33] <MarcN> globe:  try this:       $ telnet www.cnn.com 80
[11:33] <MarcN> GET / HTTP/1.1
[11:33] <stark-johan> thanks guys. I've only used one linux machine before and on that one I used "service httpd" for apache
[11:33] <shawarma> hosler: How far does it get?
[11:33] <kbrooks> stark-johan, redhat or fedora
[11:33] <hosler> shawarma: no where
[11:33] <stark-johan> ok
[11:33] <shawarma> hosler: That's not an answer.
[11:33] <globe> MarcN - it works just fine.  telnet fetches the ip and connects.
[11:33] <cafuego> ubotu: mwe hates you. Go away.
[11:33] <ubotu> cafuego: I give up, what is it?
[11:33] <kbrooks> stark-johan, also, you're running a linux distribution
[11:34] <mwe> cafuego: gg
[11:34] <hosler> shawarma: i turn it on and it does nothing. no beeps and no info on screen
[11:34] <shawarma> hosler: Do any of the fans start?
[11:34] <hosler> shawarma: yeah all the fans start
[11:34] <kbrooks> stark-johan, not necessarily a "linux machine"
[11:34] <Tachyon> polpak: Okay, I did that . . . and I'm still getting the error.  I've tried closing Totem and remounting the drive, is there anything I need to do for these changes to take effect?
[11:34] <MarcN> globe: strange. firefox and telnet, etc all use the same library calls which check /etc/resolv.conf.  Reasonable stuff in there, right?
[11:34] <globe> hosler: does the fan spin when you turn it on?
[11:34] <hosler> globe: yes
[11:34] <shawarma> hosler: ...but no beeps of anything?
[11:35] <hosler> shawarma: no beeps
[11:35] <SealyDave> not posting
[11:35] <stark-johan> a computermachine :-)
[11:35] <shawarma> hosler: Check your RAM and your graphics adapter.
[11:35] <hosler> shawarma: check for being loose?
[11:35] <SealyDave> Power on Self Test =negative
[11:35] <shawarma> hosler: Something like that.
[11:35] <hosler> k
[11:35] <yves---> Hi there, got a prob:  terminal shuts down upon opening.  Guess I messed with the "default terminal", I renamed it :o( within the profiles setup.  Can someone assist?
[11:36] <robotgeek> yves---: hmm, sure
[11:36] <globe> MarcN: yep.  it seems to be fine.   I had problems earlier with dns because of two dhcp servers on my lan, but I fixed that.  then I had to chattr +i resolv.conf, but now everything but ff uses the dns correctly.  I even went as far as to restart x
[11:36] <yves---> thx robotgeek
[11:36] <shawarma> yves---: alt-f2 and then "gnome-terminal" or "xterm"
[11:37] <bob832> olicat:  walked away from the keyboard....is your problem fixed?
[11:37] <robotgeek> yves---: System -> Preferences -> Prefererred Apps
[11:37] <MarcN> globe: and did you restart firefox?
[11:37] <yves---> shawarma, still shuts down...
[11:37] <cafuego> apokryphos: That should do it.
[11:37] <robotgeek> yves---: go to terminal tab, and select gnome-terminal
[11:37] <yves---> robotgeek, goin' there now
[11:37] <apokryphos> cafuego: ok, will test
[11:37] <globe> MarcN, yep.  I am going to reboot computer, I think
[11:38] <shawarma> yves---: Ok.. Do what robotgeek is saying. It sounds right. ;-)
[11:38] <yves---> robotgeek, I am in there
[11:38] <apokryphos_> cafuego: doesn't seem to respond, still
[11:38] <shawarma> hosler: Any luck?
[11:39] <stark-johan> another apache question: I've mounted a fat32 filesystem and then made a --bind to a part of it (my webroot) from /var/www/. The fat system is mounted with 000 or "no permissions", is this unsafe and/or is there a better way of directing my http-visitors to the actual webroot?
[11:39] <thoeger> Hi there -  Another question: Is it safe to empty my /usr/share/doc/ ?
[11:39] <shawarma> stark-johan: It won't work if the permissions are 000.
[11:39] <cafuego> apokryphos_: Ok, then now it's a freenode issue, not an ubotu one :-)
[11:40] <yves---> robotgeek, I am in System -> Preferences -> Prefererred Apps
[11:40] <ossie> guys i want to make a backup of my current install what do u reccommed , preferably in the form of an image i can deploy back
[11:40] <robotgeek> yves---: are you saying that gnome-terminal crashes?
[11:40] <yves---> yep
[11:40] <shawarma> yves---: Can you explain what you did that make it stop working?
[11:40] <apokryphos> cafuego: you can change ubotu's modes, no?
[11:40] <shawarma> brb
[11:40] <mwe> stark-johan: I think I'd prefer a symlink
[11:40] <cafuego> apokryphos: The bot will -E, so as soon as freenode disable the forced +e it'll be fixed.
[11:40] <yves---> robotgeek, I changed the default profile name :(
[11:40] <hosler> shawarma: no luck
[11:40] <cafuego> apokryphos: Yes, but ubotu isn't +E now.
[11:40] <apokryphos> cafuego: if so you can alter it so that he can receive/respond to /msgs from unidentified users
[11:41] <yves---> robotgeek, but the superuser shell works
[11:41] <stark-johan> mve > would a symlink be better than an alias?
[11:41] <cafuego> apokryphos: I think the network re-enforces it.
[11:41] <robotgeek> yves---: okay, go to the terminal tab, and select standard xterm for now
[11:41] <apokryphos> cafuego: you can still override it though with individual umode settings; one sec, I'll get the command.
[11:41] <Falstius> is there a stable flash plugin for 64bit ubuntu yet?
[11:42] <yves---> robotgeek, done... still crashes :(
[11:42] <cafuego> Falstius: Not until macromedia pull their finger out. Same goes for java and mplayer.
[11:42] <Kindred> Falstius: nope
[11:42] <robotgeek> yves---: hmm, one sec
[11:42] <epp> hey is there a nice editor for java?
[11:42] <skon> BlueFish :-D
[11:43] <apokryphos> Seveas: ping?
[11:43] <Seveas> apokryphos, ICMP ECHO REPLY
[11:43] <mwe> there isn't even sun-java for 64bit?!
[11:43] <cafuego> Seveas: What, no timeout-exceeded? ;-)
[11:43] <apokryphos> Seveas: :). Do you remember by any chance the chanserv command to allow non-registered users to /msg you? Can't seem to find it again.
[11:43] <cafuego> mwe: There is, but that has no working plugin.
[11:43] <Seveas> cafuego, *g* no, rsync leaves some bandwidth ;)
[11:43] <cafuego> apokryphos: Isn't it just unmode -E?
[11:44] <epp> what is the name of an editor for java?
[11:44] <cafuego> s/n//
[11:44] <robotgeek> yves---: what exactly did you change?
[11:44] <Seveas> apokryphos, /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[11:44] <Falstius> epp, eclipse is the nice ide I think.
[11:44] <apokryphos> that's it, thanks
[11:44] <mwe> epp: vim, nano, emacs, kate, gedit, ...
[11:44] <cafuego> apokryphos/Seveas: Ok, lemme see...
[11:44] <epp> mwe, do these have a compile button in them?
[11:44] <yves---> robotgeek, I changed the default profile name :(
[11:45] <apokryphos> there was me poking around in chanserv, gah.
[11:45] <mwe> epp: compile button. no.
[11:45] <Kaminix> How do I compile something with an older version of gcc?
[11:45] <robotgeek> yves---: from where?
[11:45] <epp> mwe, is there one that does?
[11:45] <mwe> epp: you want eclipse, I think
[11:45] <epp> ok
[11:45] <mwe> epp: it's an ide though
[11:45] <adam_> hi all
[11:45] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[11:45] <epp> mwe, ide?
[11:46] <robotgeek> yves---: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor
[11:46] <ossie> make oldconfig ---- if i type that command where will the oldconfig be output too please?
[11:46] <yves---> robotgeek, from the edit menu within the terminal... I think
[11:46] <thoeger> Sorry if I'm flooding... Is it safe to remove (almost) everything in my /usr/share/doc ?
[11:46] <epp> mwe i cant find it in apt.
[11:46] <mwe> epp: integrated development environment
[11:46] <robotgeek> Kaminix: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 (or whatever)
[11:46] <yves---> robotgeek, am in config editor
[11:46] <robotgeek> yves---: /apps/gnome-terminal/global/default_profile
[11:47] <mwe> epp: you need to enable universe then sudo apt-get update
[11:47] <epp> i did...
[11:47] <epp> breezy universe...
[11:47] <ITSa341> Good Evening everyone
[11:47] <adam_> i'm desperate to move from windows but ubuntu doesn't do all the things i want it to...  are there better distro's to start with or is there a good source for those wanting to jump from the dark side?
[11:47] <jcink> Hi, sorry to ask such a n00bish question, but I cant find this in docs, I'm wondering what are the minimum system requirements to run Ubuntu? Thanks.
[11:47] <Hikaru79> What is the difference between the FDISK partition types "W95 FAT32" and "W95 FAT32 (LBA)"? What does the 'LBA' signify?
[11:47] <epp> adam_ what do u need to do?
[11:47] <Hikaru79> jcink, quite low.
[11:47] <Benjamin_L> can somebody help me on this one ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110187
[11:48] <adam_> install Freemind for example
[11:48] <shawarma> hosler: How old is the machine?
[11:48] <mwe> epp: and apt-cache search eclipse-sdk doesn't give a hit?
[11:48] <epp> oh... yeah
[11:48] <Kaminix> robotgeek: I have /usr/bin/gcc-3.4, but setting cc=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 doesn't work. =/
[11:48] <epp> my bad
[11:48] <adam_> should be easy but so many things have gone wrong
[11:48] <alex323> What package is start-stop-daemon apart of?
[11:48] <adam_> i don;t even now where to install app's too
[11:48] <Chousuke> Kaminix: you need to set CC
[11:48] <McJerry> adam_ y not install ubuntu then install windows in VMware? that will keep your winapps handy
[11:48] <Chousuke> not cc
[11:48] <epp> adam_ u tried to install ubuntu already?
[11:48] <Kaminix> I tried both.
[11:48] <Chousuke> Kaminix: Case-sensitive ;P
[11:48] <yves---> robotgeek, am in default_profile. Entry says "super-utilisateur", which is something I made :(
[11:48] <adam_> tried installing vmware player but that failed
[11:48] <mwe> alex323: learn to use apt-file search
[11:48] <ossie> make oldconfig ---- if i type that command where will the oldconfig be output too please?
[11:49] <skon> epp: I already said BlueFish
[11:49] <Chousuke> Kaminix: did you export it?
[11:49] <adam_> am running ubuntu on a dual boot machine
[11:49] <Benjamin_L> how do I check whether  X or gdm doesn't start up?
[11:49] <thoeger> jcink: what do you want to use for it?
[11:49] <Kaminix> Chousuke, what? Export?
[11:49] <robotgeek> yves---: change that entry to Default, and the next entry to [Default]
[11:49] <Chousuke> export CC=whatever
[11:49] <McJerry> adam_: linux is linux, Ubuntu just starts you out with prepackaged software....you can add or take away to any distro
[11:49] <epp> adam_, did u use apt?
[11:49] <yves---> robotgeek, yesssss. It works :o)
[11:49] <yves---> thx man
[11:49] <robotgeek> Kaminix: if you are saying on the basis of gcc -v, then you are mistaken
[11:49] <robotgeek> yves---: np
[11:49] <adam_> for freemind?  No...
[11:49] <adam_> ok, McJerry
[11:49] <Kaminix> I typed ./configure cc=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 (it said lower case in the help-file, allthough I tried both)
[11:50] <McJerry> adam_: what failed with VMware
[11:50] <yves---> robotgeek, gooday then.
[11:50] <rev> what causes this error/how do i fix it when compiling ubuntu kernel (git) with make-kpkg? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6393
[11:50] <mwe> alex323: however, on my machine it returns lessdisks-terminal: sbin/start-stop-daemon
[11:50] <robotgeek> Kaminix: ./configure script will pick up 3.4
[11:50] <yves---> robotgeek, keep up the good work :)
[11:50] <epp> adam, if u cant get ubuntu to work then i would go with mandriva... its mostly meant for home users.
[11:50] <Kaminix> No, it picks up 4.x
[11:50] <adam_> just wondered whether any were more ~"ready to go"... rather than having to install all sorts of stuff to even view news at bbc
[11:50] <robotgeek> yves---: sure :)
[11:50] <alex323> apt-file?
[11:50] <epp> adam, the easyest way to install stuff is to use apt.
[11:50] <alex323> I don't have that installed.
[11:51] <PeteyPablo> sudo apt-get install programname
[11:51] <mwe> alex323: install it
[11:51] <Benjamin_L> anyone ? I think I miss a package but I don't know which ^^
[11:51] <alex323> What's the package?
[11:51] <adam_> McJerry... I got some error message abut a C Compiler not being present so I took someone's advice (from the Southend-on-Sea LUG and upgraded GCC
[11:51] <adam_> DOH
[11:51] <alpha255> what about synaptic?
[11:51] <hosler> shawarma: i fixed it. i had a heat censor for under my cpu which didnt let the cpu get installed snuggly enough. took that out and let my cpu fan go full throttle and it worked.
[11:51] <PeteyPablo> synaptic sucks
[11:51] <cafuego> apokryphos: Ok, if this works I am teh l33+ perl hacker.
[11:51] <robotgeek> Kaminix: that is so very weird
[11:51] <alpha255> nice gui for installing right?
[11:51] <alex323> Never mind.
[11:51] <mwe> alex323: the package is apt-file :)
[11:51] <epp> alpha255, synaptic shows all the packages ready for download for ubuntu on the net.
[11:52] <alpha255> yep
[11:52] <Eleaf> adam_, do you have the build-essentials package installed?
[11:52] <alpha255> works well for me
[11:52] <Kaminix> ERROR: "gcc" looks like gcc 4.x
[11:52] <Kaminix> QEMU is known to have problems when compiled with gcc 4.x
[11:52] <Kaminix> It is recommended that you use gcc 3.x to build QEMU
[11:52] <Kaminix> To use this compiler anyway, configure with --disable-gcc-check
[11:52] <alpha255> nice gui for newbie
[11:52] <mwe> Kaminix: don't paste in here
[11:52] <Kaminix> Wops, it was supposed to pm everything.
[11:52] <Kaminix> Sorry
[11:52] <adam_> Eleaf... I've no idea what you're talking about I'm afraid... I know Windows but have no idea how to get Linux to do what I know I want to
[11:52] <cafuego> apokryphos: 09:52.28 NickServ: <== 'Toggled UnFiltered [ON] '
[11:52] <globe> how can I get screen rez up to decent size?  screen res applet wont let me > 800x600
[11:53] <apokryphos> cafuego: cool
[11:53] <lampshade> I installed Fluxbox, But I have a weird problem where none of the menu items work.  It has to be an error with my menu files, but how can I fix this
[11:53] <Eleaf> adam_, sudo apt-get install build-essential that has some basic compiler tools
[11:53] <mwe> !tell globe about fixres
[11:53] <alpha255> globe, what you running breezy?
[11:53] <mwe> globe: see what ubotu /msg'ed you
[11:53] <N6REJ> does anyone know how to control permissions on a LVM partition?
[11:53] <Kaminix> Should I try removing /usr/bin/gcc and replace it with a symlink to gcc-3.4? Or is that a bad idea?
[11:53] <ossie> hi cafuego , im trying to compile kernel, and i have run the make oldconfig command and made a mistake, now it dont prompt me for any input when i run it, how can i delete it and start again
[11:54] <jdier> lampshade open the .fluxbox menu file and edit it manually.
[11:54] <thoeger> alpha255: I agree. Don't know what's so bad about synaptics...
[11:54] <mevvis> anyone using Dapper??
[11:54] <Benjamin_L> does anyone know whats the problem when gdm tries to start (maybe X) and it flickers and all I get is a black screen, but the monitor is on
[11:54] <alpha255> thoeger, it's good for newbie and gui interface
[11:54] <globe> mwe....I am using irssi-text : how do I see pm?
[11:54] <robotgeek> ossie: make distclean
[11:54] <thoeger> alpha255: perfectly aggree
[11:54] <mwe> Benjamin_L: you have to look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:54] <alpha255> thoeger, for servers... cli is the only way
[11:54] <thoeger> Benjamin_L: On breezy or dapper?
[11:54] <robotgeek> globe: alt + 1/2/3
[11:54] <ossie> thanx robotgeek
[11:54] <apokryphos> Kaminix: that actually should be fine; do it for g++ too
[11:54] <adam_> Eleaf... just installed them
[11:55] <thoeger> alpha255: Sure. But most Ubuntu users are running desktops, not servers.
[11:55] <Eleaf> adam_, are you so excited?
[11:55] <robotgeek> apokryphos: is it export CXX
[11:55] <globe> mwe: thanks
[11:55] <adam_> can barely sit still
[11:55] <globe> robotgeek: thanks
[11:55] <mwe> globe: it should open a new window with the msg. use alt-n (n being a number) to switch windows
[11:55] <adam_> ;-)
[11:55] <Benjamin_L> thoeger, dapper, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110187
[11:55] <adam_> dir
[11:55] <alpha255> thoeger, i'd agree
[11:55] <jdier> lampshade - you have to change your .fluxbox/init file to include the line session.menuFile:	~/.fluxbox/menu
[11:55] <alpha255> with that
[11:55] <apokryphos> robotgeek: I forget how to search for exported variables; not sure what to set, either. Pretty sure you can specify it on configure though
[11:55] <alpha255> it's a nice desktop
[11:56] <thoeger> Sorry if I'm flooding... Can I sefaly empty my /usr/share/doc/ ?
[11:56] <alpha255> and easy to install debian
[11:56] <shea> might there be any maya/ubuntu users around?
[11:56] <robotgeek> apokryphos: printenv
[11:56] <ossie> robotgeek, do u know what the m/n/ stand for when compile a kernel, for instance, BLK_DEV [n/m/?]  i choose M thinking that is yes????
[11:56] <jdier> then you have to create ~/.fluxbox.menu
[11:56] <thoeger> Benjamin_L: Sorry; I'm running Breezy
[11:56] <apokryphos> robotgeek: thanks
[11:56] <robotgeek> ossie: not include/or compile as module/help
[11:56] <N6REJ> anyone help with LVM ?
[11:57] <ossie> if i want to include it should i use n or m ???
[11:57] <robotgeek> ossie: yes, module should be fine
[11:57] <mwe> apokryphos: isn't setting CC to the compiler version you want to use usually sufficient?
[11:57] <apokryphos> robotgeek: symlinks would be fine. They should've made a dpkg-reconfigure for this
[11:57] <ossie> cheers robotgeek
[11:57] <robotgeek> apokryphos: yes, a /etc/alternatives for gcc would be nice
[11:57] <apokryphos> mwe: if that's what it was, then yes.
[11:57] <epp> is there a program to hook my pda to linux?
[11:57] <epp> is there a program to hook my pda to linux?
[11:57] <globe> what is Horay?
[11:58] <Benjamin_L> mwe, how do I get the log from last boot ?
[11:58] <jdier> does anyone know how to make alt-tab show open apps from all of my available desktops?
[11:58] <Eleaf> globe, Horay is what you say when you are happy.  Ubuntu Hoary is the older version of ubuntu.
[11:58] <mwe> Benjamin_L: /var/log/Xorg.1.log IIRC
[11:58] <ossie> sorry to keep on robotgeek , what tool do u reccommend for making a backup of ubuntu as i have a habit of reinstalling all the time, would be nice to have a backup instead , like a image
[11:59] <globe> Eleaf ;-D
[11:59] <apokryphos> ossie: good idea to have your /home on a seperate partition
[11:59] <lucasvo> ossie: just backup /etc/, /home, /var/
[11:59] <robotgeek> ossie: hmm, i am not sure. i don't reinstall at all. yes, a separate /home is a neat idea
[11:59] <polpak> apokryphos, indeed. having /home on it's own partition can be invaluable
[11:59] <lucasvo> ossie: /etc/ for configs, /home for your files, /var for logs and other things
[11:59] <ossie> apokryphos, im having major problems formating and partioning with linux, not just ubuntu either
[12:00] <lucasvo> ossie: why?
[12:00] <N6REJ> robotgeek, you have any idea where to get help for LVM?