[09:08] <ForgeAus> ok I think I've seen it.. brb. resetting
[09:08] <jontec> rescue or recovery or something along those lines
[09:08] <jontec> k
[09:10] <jontec> shutter exposure is the coolest thing ever (cameras)
[09:10] <ForgeAus> still logging out
[09:10] <ForgeAus> slooooooowly
[09:11] <jontec> wow... lol.
[09:11] <ForgeAus> ahh recovery mode
[09:11] <ForgeAus> yes
[09:11] <ForgeAus> lotsa text
[09:12] <ForgeAus> event manager
[09:12] <jontec> it boots as normal... :D
[09:12] <ForgeAus> wow the font changed! lol
[09:12] <ForgeAus> I don't think I ever seen a text screen do that before!
[09:13] <ForgeAus> ohhh kay
[09:13] <ForgeAus> now what?
[09:13] <ForgeAus> I'm at a root prompt
[09:13] <jontec> do what you need. :D
[09:13] <ForgeAus> um.. how?
[09:13] <jontec> do you know commands?
[09:13] <ForgeAus> no
[09:13] <ForgeAus> ls doesn't even work
[09:13] <jontec> wth?
[09:14] <ForgeAus> uh?
[09:14] <ForgeAus> its just a prompt
[09:14] <ForgeAus> what am I supposed to do from there?
[09:14] <jontec> welll you may be in the root home directory so...
[09:14] <jontec> cd ..
[09:14] <jontec> then ls?
[09:14] <ForgeAus> says: root@forge-desktop:~#
[09:14] <jontec> yeah.... root's home directory and it's empty
[09:14] <ForgeAus> ls does nothing
[09:14] <ForgeAus> unless its empty
[09:14] <ForgeAus> oh yeah
[09:14] <ForgeAus> that figures
[09:15] <ForgeAus> ahh yes ls works
[09:15] <jontec> yay
[09:15] <ForgeAus> I'm not very strong on linux command-line
[09:15] <ForgeAus> I rarely have used it before
[09:17] <jontec> well... so... we're in so look in "man apt-get"... I'll look too and we'll see if we can find how to uninstall packages... ( I think it's apt-get remove foo ) what packages do you think that you need to remove?
[09:17] <ForgeAus> ahh wdm!
[09:17] <ForgeAus> nice!
[09:17] <ForgeAus> I might be able to log into plain X! (for the first time ever)
[09:18] <jontec> ?
[09:18] <ForgeAus> ok maybe not
[09:18] <jontec> what'd you do?
[09:18] <ForgeAus> all the logins I try fail
[09:18] <ForgeAus> I typed wdm
[09:19] <ForgeAus> (wdm is a login screen wait isn't it xdm for Xwindows???)
[09:19] <ForgeAus> I dunno but its asking me to log into debian but I can't find a username/pass that works lol!
[09:19] <ForgeAus> I'm not sure what login its asking for exactly
[09:20] <ForgeAus> hangon why doesn't root : rootpass work?
[09:21] <jontec> ummm... did you just type "login" coz I just tried that at my root prompt and got nothing
[09:21] <ForgeAus> ohh I get it.... its the login/pass for the liveCD maybe?
[09:21] <ForgeAus> everything I try fails
[09:22] <jontec> it's for the system... but you're as root... so you don't need/aren't allowed to login
[09:22] <jontec> wait
[09:22] <jontec> is it allowing you to put in a username and password?
[09:22] <ForgeAus> yeah
[09:22] <ForgeAus> its aksing for them
[09:22] <jontec> hmm...
[09:23] <jontec> what's your main user?
[09:23] <ForgeAus> user? chris, computer forge-desktop I think
[09:23] <ForgeAus> I'm not entirely sure
[09:23] <ForgeAus> depends on what kubuntu install called what
[09:24] <ForgeAus> I just knowt he password it asked me for is the same as root password
[09:24] <jontec> I was going to have you use passwd on chris
[09:24] <ForgeAus> but root doesn't work with either a password of root (the main root pass) or blank
[09:24] <ForgeAus> thats weird
[09:24] <jontec> but I want you to create a new user before that :D so we don't mess anything up...
[09:24] <ForgeAus> maybe I should exit this login screen
[09:25] <jontec> so when you put in chris and your normal password does it say "invalid" or something?
[09:25] <ForgeAus> argh exitlogin failed!
[09:25] <ForgeAus> yeah doesn't work with chris either
[09:25] <ForgeAus> or root
[09:25] <ForgeAus> or forge
[09:25] <ForgeAus> or forge-desktop
[09:25] <jontec> okay
[09:25] <ForgeAus> under blank root or (the pass I chose)
[09:25] <ForgeAus> argh!
[09:25] <jontec> type exit
[09:25] <ForgeAus> yay
[09:25] <jontec> ?
[09:25] <ForgeAus> control alt f1 quit wdm
[09:26] <jontec> wait did you just type wdm? to get there?
[09:26] <jontec> I thought you typed login. :D
[09:26] <ForgeAus> how do you remove a file?
[09:27] <jontec> you're at the root prompt, right?
[09:27] <jontec> wait on that for a sec :D
[09:27] <ForgeAus> yeah I'm at root prompt
[09:27] <jontec> type "login -p chris"
[09:27] <ForgeAus> I need to delete a file
[09:27] <ForgeAus> it tells me x server is already running
[09:27] <jontec> when did you start x?
[09:27] <jontec> lol.
[09:27] <ForgeAus> and theres some lock in temp files that I need to delete /tmp/.X0-lock
[09:28] <ForgeAus> which is probably why id didn't let me boot
[09:28] <ForgeAus> I didn't start X
[09:28] <ForgeAus> it didn't work
[09:28] <ForgeAus> I tried to tho
[09:28] <ForgeAus> (I suck at command line)
[09:28] <jontec> lol.
[09:28] <jontec> so what have you done...? a list... :D
[09:28] <ForgeAus> so how do I remove the lock file?
[09:28] <ForgeAus> a list? um not much
[09:28] <ForgeAus> I booted
[09:28] <ForgeAus> gave me a prompt I didn't think ls was working
[09:28] <zach> hey, does anyone know how to mount my secondary hard drive and stuff so I can use it?
[09:28] <ForgeAus> I traversed the directory tree a little
[09:28] <ForgeAus> tried wdm but no login would work for it
[09:29] <ForgeAus> (because x is locked is probably why nothings working)
[09:29] <ForgeAus> then I used control alt f1 which booted me out of wdm
[09:29] <ForgeAus> and so I tried xdm
[09:29] <jontec> ForgeAus: restart into recovery... we need to see if your login works. :D so when you get back... you need to do "login -p chris"
[09:29] <zach> I've been looking around in this OS for a while, but idk code stuff, so idk how to mount it...
[09:29] <ForgeAus> which told me that there was a lock on a file
[09:30] <jontec> then shove a password in... and if it works then that's good :D but if not then we have a problem...
[09:30] <jontec> if we still have that lock problem... then I'm going to surrender :D
[09:30] <ForgeAus> it doesn't work
[09:30] <jontec> OH!
[09:30] <ForgeAus> login -p chris doesn't
[09:30] <jontec> the lock file is because you've tried to login so much
[09:30] <jontec> :D
[09:30] <jontec> zach: gimme a sec
[09:30] <jontec> :D
[09:31] <jontec> zach: what filesystem is the other hd?
[09:31] <zach> jontec: thanks
[09:31] <ForgeAus> zach u using kubuntu?
[09:31] <zach> idk, its whatever windows makes it cuz I was running it w/ windows before
[09:31] <ForgeAus> in system settings under advanced (in administrator mode) you should be able to do it in the gui there... mount the filesystem at least
[09:31] <zach> just straight Ubuntu
[09:31] <ForgeAus> if not use media:/ in konqueror?
[09:32] <ForgeAus> ok well ubuntu's control panel equivalent whatever its called should have some kind of filesystem manager
[09:32] <ForgeAus> I just don't know enough about ubuntu to know what its called in it
[09:32] <zach> ya
[09:32] <jontec> zach: yeah see what you can do by going to the... little Computer icon in the task bar and choosing storage media
[09:32] <ForgeAus> probably an alternate way of doing the same thing in kde
[09:32] <ForgeAus> storage media sounds good!
[09:33] <ForgeAus> might be something in there to mount disks
[09:33] <ForgeAus> um jontec I havn't ever needed to use the username chris to log in before
[09:33] <ForgeAus> (I guess that does it all behind the scenes
[09:33] <ForgeAus> or maybe chris isn't the username was just what kubuntu asked for a name of a user on installing it?... get me?
[09:34] <zach> ya, it didnt really have anything in there...
[09:34] <ForgeAus> the only time I need my password is when I run an app as root
[09:34] <jontec> zach: and once you're there the windows drive should be like hda1 (guessing) but realize that you won't be able to write to the drives
[09:34] <jontec> zach: forget my directions... I just remembered that you're on ubuntu... join the #ubuntu channel... they'll be alot more helpful :D
[09:34] <ForgeAus> ntfs? hmmm
[09:34] <zach> I'm getting really pissed at this thing cuz I thought it was supposed to be easy to use, its free, but not easy
[09:34] <ForgeAus> yeah problem
[09:34] <ForgeAus> you can install with synaptic some ntfs tools
[09:34] <ForgeAus> to do more with ntfs filesystems
[09:35] <zach> thanks jontec
[09:35] <ForgeAus> um jontec do you think it will let me login if I remove the lock file?
[09:35] <jontec> zach: it's still linux... and linux has nevere been easy... it's rough getting started... you'll lern to love it later and hopefully find a more advanced os if you are so inclined
[09:35] <jontec> never*
[09:35] <jontec> ForgeAus: we do not want to remove the lock file
[09:35] <ForgeAus> hmmm no need ubuntu linux is advanced neough to do anything you should need!
[09:36] <ForgeAus> why not?
[09:36] <jontec> gah... I misspelled learn
[09:36] <ForgeAus> lol jontec luckily I read typoese
[09:36] <zach> jontec: I'm going to keep it, even after I finally get my windows fixed, but I'll keep trying this, thanks for the help anyways
[09:36] <ForgeAus> I'm not sure what login I'm logging in to anyway
[09:36] <ForgeAus> the live cd or the HDD
[09:37] <jontec> ForgeAus: the HDD
[09:37] <ForgeAus> nothing seems to work cept from the kubuntu login screen
[09:37] <ForgeAus> but that doesn't boot up my desktop
[09:37] <ForgeAus> I'm assuming thats because my X is locked
[09:37] <jontec> zach: you're welcome... and for most people ubuntu is about all you'll want to work with :D once you get it running at least... but some people are intrigued by the possibilities that linux offers once they get into the guts
[09:37] <ForgeAus> well then why do none of my usernames/passwords work for logging in from the recovery kernel?
[09:38] <ForgeAus> I didn't set all this up manually
[09:38] <ForgeAus> I just hit the install from the live CD it did the rest
[09:38] <jontec> ForgeAus: we're trying to work with system it's self... no desktop, no X, no anything :D
[09:38] <ForgeAus> which might have included giving me a username/pass that I don't know about
[09:38] <jontec> ForgeAus: cli all the way
[09:38] <ForgeAus> grrr I odn't want to cli
[09:38] <ForgeAus> I just want my desktop back
[09:38] <jontec> ForgeAus: your login should be the one you get into kubuntu with
[09:38] <zach> understandable, with everything being free and there being so many possibilities...
[09:39] <ForgeAus> I don't use a username to get into kubuntu I only need to type my pass
[09:39] <ForgeAus> the username already there is forge
[09:39] <jontec> ForgeAus: the one you used the very first time you used kubuntu after the install
[09:39] <jontec> ForgeAus: okay, then it's forge (I don't know :D)
[09:39] <jontec> ForgeAus: we have to work with cli... it's all we have :D
[09:39] <ForgeAus> neither did I that that was my username but that doesn't seem to work anyway
[09:40] <ForgeAus> actually that worked
[09:40] <ForgeAus> forge worked!
[09:40] <jontec> ForgeAus: GOOD!
[09:40] <ForgeAus> with the login-p thing
[09:40] <ForgeAus> lol I didn't expect it to
[09:40] <ForgeAus> maybe I didn't try that combo in wdm?
[09:40] <ForgeAus> brb trying it... just for fun
[09:41] <ForgeAus> um do I have to log out?
[09:41] <jontec> ForgeAus: okay that makes a big problem switch... we know that it's a problem with something that gets into the guts of the system.... not the candy coating
[09:41] <ForgeAus> is this login nested?
[09:41] <jontec> the candy coating you use to access it
[09:41] <jontec> nested?
[09:41] <ForgeAus> inside another one
[09:41] <ForgeAus> to get back to where I was do I have to logout?
[09:41] <jontec> ForgeAus: the login you just used is possibly nested within the root... but I'm not totally sure
[09:42] <ForgeAus> I can always type login -p forge again thats easy done
[09:42] <jontec> try logout and see what you get
[09:42] <ForgeAus> yup it was nested
[09:42] <jontec> if you get a login prompt
[09:42] <jontec> okay
[09:42] <fowlduck> You can log in as root at the recovery console if you change the root's password in the passwd file to something unintelligible, iirc
[09:42] <jontec> so you're back to root, then (wanted to make sure)
[09:42] <fowlduck> yay, in as root = win
[09:43] <fowlduck> man, i wish I could remember the trick, someone told me it like 6 months ago
[09:43] <fowlduck> bah
[09:43] <ForgeAus> grrr wdm doesn't work anymore
[09:43] <jontec> fowlduck: we have instant root :D
[09:43] <jontec> fowlduck: we just need to make sure that his regular login works
[09:43] <jontec> then he can sudo su into root later
[09:44] <fowlduck> jontec: yessir
[09:44] <ForgeAus> ok back to login
[09:44] <ForgeAus> got a forge prompt now
[09:44] <ForgeAus> what do I need to do to get back into my desktop from here?
[09:44] <jontec> ForgeAus: lol :D we don't need wdm... but I think that we're at the end of my knowledge
[09:44] <jontec> well...
[09:44] <jontec> we probably still have the same problem
[09:44] <fowlduck> wdm?
[09:44] <ForgeAus> what problem?
[09:45] <fowlduck> not kdm or gdm?
[09:45] <ForgeAus> kdm is kde gdm is gnome
[09:45] <ForgeAus> xdm is Xwindows
[09:45] <fowlduck> and you're using?
[09:45] <jontec> it's a problem with X and the kde interface that's preventing you to login (or all of that other..... .... crap you have)
[09:45] <fowlduck> wdm is?
[09:45] <ForgeAus> hmmm Wdm might have been windowmaker?
[09:45] <ForgeAus> or is Xdm XFCE?
[09:45] <ForgeAus> or both?
[09:45] <fowlduck> wow, ok
[09:45] <ForgeAus> but theres no edm for enlightenment that I know of
[09:45] <ForgeAus> thats wierd
[09:45] <fowlduck> xfce uses gdm by default i think, since xdm is a load of poop on a stick
[09:46] <ForgeAus> xdm is xwindows original one probably
[09:46] <fowlduck> xdm is the display manager for X
[09:46] <ForgeAus> I can only run wdm from root anyway
[09:46] <jontec> ForgeAus: I really don't know what kind of effect all of that stuff is haing on each other
[09:46] <ForgeAus> display manager? is kde kdm a display manager?
[09:46] <ForgeAus> lol jontec thats not a problem
[09:46] <ForgeAus> its all working
[09:47] <fowlduck> kdm is the display manager
[09:47] <ForgeAus> just that I can't login from kdm
[09:47] <ForgeAus> or any dm for that matter
[09:47] <ForgeAus> if my X is locked would that be why?
[09:47] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: wow, try creating a new user in recovery mode and log in under that
[09:47] <jontec> ForgeAus: that's what I was saying before... it's the candy coating.... :D
[09:47] <ForgeAus> jontec what exactly do you mean by that?
[09:48] <ForgeAus> fowl? how do I create a new user?
[09:48] <jontec> not at fowlduck btw
[09:48] <ForgeAus> I have no idea what I'm doing in cli!
[09:48] <jontec> man adduser
[09:48] <jontec> I'm looking at it in a few secs
[09:48] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: if this is ubuntu, I believe there is adduser and useradd
[09:49] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: use useradd
[09:49] <ForgeAus> lol its kubuntu (which everyone says is the same but I disagree)... anyhow... there probably is an adduser and a useradd
[09:49] <ForgeAus> tells me unable to lock password file
[09:49] <fowlduck> useradd bababa
[09:49] <ForgeAus> well I was going with testuser but still
[09:50] <fowlduck> ok, that's probably why kdm blows up
[09:50] <rcrook> has anyone else run a logitach quick cam on kubuntu?
[09:50] <ForgeAus> what?
[09:50] <ForgeAus> grr whats this stuff mean?
[09:50] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: type ps -A | grep dm
[09:50] <ForgeAus> gives me a list of wdm processes I guess
[09:50] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: you probably have two display managers running at the same time and one has it locked
[09:51] <ForgeAus> 3x with a wdm login at the end
[09:51] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: wait, are you logged in as root?
[09:51] <ForgeAus> I was
[09:51] <ForgeAus> but jontec had me login as forge
[09:51] <fowlduck> go: sudo useradd testuser
[09:51] <ForgeAus> (my username)
[09:51] <ForgeAus> that worked its asking password
[09:52] <ForgeAus> why can't I just have deleted the lock file? wouldnt that have fixed all this?
[09:52] <fowlduck> ok, so your password file isn't locked
[09:52] <jontec> hey, we had to see if it would work :D
[09:52] <fowlduck> no, you do not want to delete the passwd file, bad bad bad
[09:52] <jontec> lol
[09:52] <fowlduck> never do that
[09:52] <ForgeAus> grrr it wont accept the password :(
[09:52] <fowlduck> why not?
[09:52] <ForgeAus> no the passwd file the file thats locked X
[09:52] <ForgeAus> that temporary one it told me to earlier
[09:53] <fowlduck> ugh, stop breaking crap
[09:53] <jontec> lol
[09:53] <ForgeAus> breaking?
[09:53] <fowlduck> do you have sshd running and a login I could use?
[09:53] <ForgeAus> um why would it tell me to delete it if its going to break something?
[09:54] <fowlduck> ok, I didn't know it was a temporary one
[09:54] <ForgeAus> this is all too confusing :(
[09:54] <jontec> it told you to?
[09:54] <ForgeAus> yes it told me to I said earlier jon
[09:54] <fowlduck> wow, I'm confused now
[09:54] <jontec> oh... I just saw lock file and delete and yelled no
[09:54] <ForgeAus> when I tried running xwindows in the first place I said it told me it had a lock on some temporary file
[09:55] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: that makes little sense if we don't know what the file is
[09:55] <ForgeAus> .X0-lock
[09:55] <jontec> okay I found it: [03:27]  <ForgeAus> and theres some lock in temp files that I need to delete /tmp/.X0-lock
[09:55] <ForgeAus> well when I tried to run it it told me it was already running and to delete the .X0-lock in the /tmp/ directory
[09:55] <ForgeAus> if I remove that will that fix my kdm?
[09:56] <fowlduck> it...could....
[09:56] <ForgeAus> I sense a but
[09:56] <jontec> fowlduck: he's got several windows managers installed
[09:56] <ForgeAus> what could cause it to be locked like that?
[09:56] <fowlduck> If wdm is running though it will probably break a lot of stuff
[09:56] <ForgeAus> how do I unrun wdm? lol
[09:56] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: try this: sudo /etc/init.d/wdm stop
[09:57] <jontec> ForgeAus: like he said before... one is locking the other... that's why he had you run ps -A | grep dm... it searched the running processes to find windows managers that were running
[09:57] <fowlduck> jontec: nothing wrong with that, the problem comes when he has many running at the same time
[09:57] <fowlduck> jontec: display managers, actually
[09:57] <ForgeAus> it said ist stopping it
[09:57] <ForgeAus> and then back to prompt
[09:58] <fowlduck> ok, then run sudo kdm
[09:58] <jontec> fowlduck: same thing to me :D (lol... I'm a noob)
[09:58] <ForgeAus> it shouldn't have still been running
[09:58] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: we'll see if this is the problem
[09:58] <ForgeAus> um that didn't fix it
[09:58] <ForgeAus> still boots me back to the pretty blue screen
[09:58] <jontec> I bit open a burn earlier out of frustration with my computer if anyone cares to know :D
[09:58] <fowlduck> what did it say?
[09:58] <ForgeAus> nothing
[09:58] <ForgeAus> no error message
[09:59] <ForgeAus> just doesn't log in
[09:59] <fowlduck> type dmesg | tail
[09:59] <ForgeAus> after I log in it accepts the login just doesn't go INTO kde
[09:59] <ForgeAus> just comes back to login
[09:59] <ForgeAus> um how do I get out of kde first?
[09:59] <ForgeAus> grr kdm
[09:59] <fowlduck> ok, is this getting you further than it was before?
[09:59] <ForgeAus> no
[09:59] <ForgeAus> thats where I was stuck to begin with
[09:59] <ForgeAus> I can get into kdm
[09:59] <ForgeAus> just can't get into kde from kdm
[10:00] <fowlduck> ok, so no error messages about bad passwords or anything?
[10:00] <ForgeAus> doesn't matter what WM I try
[10:00] <ForgeAus> no bad passwords
[10:00] <fowlduck> press ctrl+alt+f2
[10:00] <ForgeAus> no errors
[10:00] <ForgeAus> no nothing
[10:00] <ForgeAus> tried that
[10:00] <fowlduck> login as yourself aggain
[10:00] <ForgeAus> it freezes
[10:00] <fowlduck> wow
[10:00] <fowlduck> ok
[10:01] <ForgeAus> same with f1
[10:01] <ForgeAus> and f6 I think it is
[10:01] <fowlduck> do you have anything important on this pc?
[10:01] <ForgeAus> f7 doesn't do anything
[10:01] <fowlduck> later Rob
[10:01] <ForgeAus> fowl its a Virtual Machine and aside from loads of reinstalling nothing important
[10:01] <Rob-West> night fowlduck
[10:01] <ForgeAus> I'd rather not reformat it unless I absolutely HAVE to tho
[10:01] <jontec> ForgeAus: all of them are different sessions... 1 > F1, 2 > F2, etc. I just chose six coz it was less than seven which I started with :D
[10:02] <ForgeAus> sessions?
[10:02] <ForgeAus> what do you mean by sessions in this context?
[10:02] <jontec> ForgeAus: I'm not sure if that's the technical term... but yes.... once in KDE you can use them and they attach to a user
[10:02] <jontec> ForgeAus: meaning you can login as a different user on each one
[10:02] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: well, we're not there to help you get through this and somehow you've managed to get multiple display managers borking, so instead of us spending hours trying to help you get through this, why not just reinstall?
[10:03] <ForgeAus> wasn't hard to get multiple display managers working
[10:03] <fowlduck> i seriously don't know how you managed to get all this messed up
[10:03] <ForgeAus> just install them and they go
[10:03] <fowlduck> i said borking, not working
[10:03] <jontec> lol
[10:03] <ForgeAus> my internet connection ided
[10:03] <ForgeAus> grr died
[10:03] <ForgeAus> which messed up an install that messed up my erm.. session?... in WMaker
[10:03] <fowlduck> It could be an X configuration issue too
[10:03] <ForgeAus> it was still runing but it was kinda broken
[10:04] <ForgeAus> when I rebooted I couldn't log into KDM from there
[10:04] <fowlduck> nice
[10:04] <ForgeAus> erm I mean KDE... (from KDM)
[10:04] <fowlduck> ok, that gives me some background
[10:04] <ForgeAus> Xconfig?
[10:04] <fowlduck> probably a messed up X, which is easy to fix
[10:04] <ForgeAus> ok how do I fix it then?
[10:04] <fowlduck> can you get back to the command line by rebooting?
[10:04] <ForgeAus> how do I exit kdm back to the promt I was at to begin with!
[10:05] <pwn4tt4ck> its four thirteen am
[10:05] <fowlduck> uhhh, let me install kubuntu quick
[10:05] <ForgeAus> um... yeah if I use grub to reload a recovery shell
[10:05] <jontec> ForgeAus: were you in recovery kernel that whole time?
[10:05] <ForgeAus> jontec
[10:05] <ForgeAus> yeah
[10:05] <ForgeAus> was in the recovery kernel all the time you told me to
[10:05] <jontec> damn (sorry for cursing) but still......
[10:05] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: and remember, we're volunteers, helping you out of kindness, please chill
[10:05] <pwn4tt4ck> all: is recovery kernel like safemode on the unmentionable OS?
[10:05] <jontec> wow.
[10:05] <ForgeAus> lol I'm chilling!
[10:05] <ForgeAus> why wow?
[10:06] <ForgeAus> yeah pwn kinda
[10:06] <jontec> I just associate recovery kernel with do your business in cli and get done
[10:06] <ForgeAus> well more like recovery console of XP's
[10:06] <jontec> not ACTUALLY starting X or anything
[10:06] <fowlduck> yeah, i'm surprised it starts at all
[10:06] <ForgeAus> anyhow I have to reset?
[10:06] <fowlduck> would be a good idea
[10:06] <pwn4tt4ck> This question is pointless, but is it 4.15am for anyone else here?
[10:07] <ForgeAus> lol I'm in australia
[10:07] <jontec> yeah
[10:07] <fowlduck> 3:07 here
[10:07] <jontec> actually...
[10:07] <fowlduck> AM
[10:07] <jontec> 4:07
[10:07] <ForgeAus> not 4:15am here
[10:07] <ForgeAus> only 8pm
[10:07] <jontec> I'm interested.. how old is everyone here...?
[10:07] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: yeah, it's also summer there
[10:07] <pwn4tt4ck> ahh crap I need to fix my clock, resync
[10:07] <pwn4tt4ck> I'm ...
[10:07] <fowlduck> 24 now, I almost typed 23
[10:07] <fowlduck> i feel old
[10:07] <pwn4tt4ck> oh ok
[10:07] <ForgeAus> ok restarting recovery mode now
[10:07] <pwn4tt4ck> I'm 18 :D
[10:07] <fowlduck> and i'm not, which makes it even more weird
[10:07] <jontec> well I hate summer... and I have a friend in Australia.. she moved there last yeah
[10:07] <jontec> year*
[10:08] <jontec> I'm 15. :D am I youngest? please say no
[10:08] <pwn4tt4ck> I started programming around 14 and then webdesign took over my life :\
[10:08] <pwn4tt4ck> no
[10:08] <pwn4tt4ck> but in all reality, yes
[10:08] <pwn4tt4ck> :p
[10:08] <jontec> darn. that stinks
[10:08] <ForgeAus> I'm mostly a n00b to linux tho
[10:08] <ForgeAus> this stuff is WAY over my head
[10:08] <jontec> I do rails
[10:08] <jontec> at pwn btw
[10:08] <ForgeAus> ok back to prompt
[10:09] <ForgeAus> now how to fix my X
[10:09] <fowlduck> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:09] <pwn4tt4ck> how do you resync the freaking clock!?
[10:09] <jontec> even better... I had just typed raze everything else... apt-get remove [whatever]
[10:09] <pwn4tt4ck> I feel so... n00b right now
[10:10] <jontec> I mean
[10:10] <jontec> what fowlduck said was better :D
[10:10] <Linux_Galore> pwn4tt4ck: right click on it -> configure clock
[10:10] <x-demon> how i can backub MBR?
[10:10] <ForgeAus> its asking what driver?
[10:10] <jontec> oh I didn't even see his question
[10:10] <ForgeAus> vesa?
[10:10] <pwn4tt4ck> I can make a database program in 5 mins in C++ after studying the language all of 20 minutes, and I cant resync a freaking clock...
[10:10] <pwn4tt4ck> linux_: thx
[10:10] <fowlduck> x-demon: ummm, how long is the mbr, 512 bytes?
[10:11] <Linux_Galore> x-demon: why would you backup the mbr it contains no real data other than a pointer
[10:11] <x-demon> i need GRUB backup
[10:11] <x-demon> boot sector
[10:11] <Linux_Galore> x-demon: grub doesnt actually exist in the mbr
[10:11] <jontec> 2983 casualties in Iraq... I'm watching current right now
[10:12] <fowlduck> mbr points to a location on disk that contains grub :)
[10:12] <ForgeAus> eek whats this videocard bus identifier? PCI:0:15:0 ???
[10:12] <ForgeAus> whats all that?
[10:12] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: just hit enter
[10:12] <x-demon> how i can backup grub?
[10:12] <ForgeAus> amoutn of kb to use for video card?
[10:12] <fowlduck> x-demon: backup your /boot directory
[10:12] <Linux_Galore> x-demon: you dont. what your doing is futile
[10:12] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: just hit enter
[10:12] <x-demon> and how i can write audioCD from mp3s
[10:12] <x-demon> ?
[10:12] <pwn4tt4ck> jontec: did you know america loses 40,000 people a year in fatal car crashes? But man the media blows up all near 3,000 soldiers we've lost.. funny how the larger issues escape them
[10:12] <x-demon> !audioCD_from_MP3
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audioCD_from_MP3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <Linux_Galore> x-demon: I dont think you know how grub works
[10:13] <fowlduck> !opo
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <x-demon> !audioCD_disk
[10:13] <fowlduck> !o4o
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audioCD_disk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
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[10:13] <ForgeAus> ok mostly just enter for all of these right?
[10:13] <fowlduck> lol, for the wrong channel
[10:13] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: yes
[10:13] <x-demon> how i can write AUDIOCD from mp3 files?
[10:14] <fowlduck> x-demon: ubuntu has documentation on things of this nature, check their docs first then come back here
[10:14] <Linux_Galore> x-demon: if you want to desperately backup the mbr (god knows why) you can use dd if=/dev/hdx of=MBR-backup bs=512 count=1
[10:14] <x-demon> i doesnt found it
[10:15] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: I'd heard as much in health class... :D I don't see it as a lot (that's a bad thing to say, I have no personal connection to it... yet... until/if there's a draft... that our democratic congress will shoot down) so yeah... I was watching a thing on current today about motorist and bicyclists in New York.. supposedly it's a pretty common thing... 42-47 a year (still isn't a lot to me)
[10:15] <Linux_Galore> x-demon: hdx  being your hardisk  usually its hda
[10:15] <x-demon> ok
[10:16] <ForgeAus> ok back to prompt
[10:16] <fowlduck> x-demon: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[10:16] <ForgeAus> not sure what half of that stuff was
[10:16] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: reboot and boot into the regular kernel
[10:16] <pwn4tt4ck> jontec: I think the media fails at their job. If they really wanted to give me the knews, they would tell me this: What we're doing in the war, what our plan is to get out of the war, and what steps we're taking, then a timeline. But instead they give us their opinions and buy the public, causing them to rally against the president
[10:16] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: I'm fighting the president on the political part not the killing part. :D and yeah the media gets worked up because they drive cars everyday... not shoot guys everyday :D
[10:16] <pwn4tt4ck> Continued: They'd rather kill patriotism than give us the news, and when you kill patriotism you destroy the soul of the country
[10:17] <fowlduck> the media is obsessed with ratings
[10:17] <pwn4tt4ck> People usually think I'm a republican, truth be told I hate both parties because neither of them care about anything more than tearing the other down.
[10:17] <ForgeAus> ok regularbooting
[10:17] <Linux_Galore> you guys, people are asking questions move it to #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:17] <fowlduck> so we get whatever they think will drive up ratings
[10:17] <pwn4tt4ck> anyway, I'm done being off topic
[10:18] <Linux_Galore> its ok if the room is dead but not in the middle of a support questions please
[10:18] <pwn4tt4ck> there are no operators in here?
[10:18] <fowlduck> that can be fixed
[10:18] <pwn4tt4ck> its not a problem :p
[10:18] <jontec> Linux_Galore: okay... but we were almost done anyway
[10:19] <ForgeAus> nope still didn't boot up into kde
[10:19] <ForgeAus> no different
[10:19] <jontec> 'least I'm done noe
[10:19] <jontec> now*
[10:19] <pwn4tt4ck> what is it booting in?
[10:19] <fowlduck> too bad x-demon left, i was about to give another link
[10:19] <pwn4tt4ck> is forge doing the gnome to kde switch?
[10:19] <pwn4tt4ck> I just did that a little while ago
[10:19] <pwn4tt4ck> :D
[10:19] <fowlduck> no, he installed wdm
[10:19] <ForgeAus> gets in KDM and accepts login when I press enter, screen blanks out to go into kde, but it just goes back ot KDM
[10:19] <fowlduck> and he was trying to run kdm at the same time
[10:19] <Linux_Galore> thats the second time today someone has though grub exists in the mbr
[10:19] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: nope... he just has a lot of crap things messing with X... we think
[10:19] <fowlduck> or something
[10:20] <Linux_Galore> thought*
[10:20] <fowlduck> Linux_Galore: well, it does ask if you want to install grub in the MBR during install
[10:20] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: I know but its actually wrong
[10:20] <fowlduck> Linux_Galore: then you can understand the confusion
[10:21] <jontec> I was about to ask if grub was on the HD, but the MBR is on the HD, though isn't it?
[10:21] <jontec> but it's another layer?
[10:21] <ForgeAus> why should WDM be any different to having KDM?
[10:21] <pwn4tt4ck> I used to want to duel boot windows and linux... then I realized I'd be better off with just linux :D
[10:21] <ForgeAus> or GDM
[10:21] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: I have no idea why your junk is borked then, sorry
[10:21] <ForgeAus> I still think its because that temporary file is locked
[10:21] <ForgeAus> do yout hink its still there? or deleted?
[10:21] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: it isn't, unless you don't know what you're doing and have multiple ones running at the same time
[10:21] <jontec> If I could just use rails... and sound actually worked on my lappy I'd consider it
[10:21] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: you could try
[10:22] <fowlduck> jontec: you can't use rails?
[10:22] <ForgeAus> if its only a temporary file it shouldn't break anything right?
[10:22] <Linux_Galore> jontec: the mbr is the first sector on the first cylinder, the bios looks at it after it has done its job, if it executes it then it just hands the machine over to that process, in this case the mbr just has a really small bit of code that basically points to were grub is on the hardisk
[10:22] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: i dunno, it's a VM, just try it
[10:22] <ForgeAus> the WDM that was still running was broken anyway... (shouldn't have been)
[10:22] <ForgeAus> ok
[10:22] <ForgeAus> thanx for your help fd :)
[10:22] <fowlduck> np
[10:23] <abdusabri> Hi, i have an (MSI 945GM2) main board, suddenly the screen resolution switched to 640x840 and it dosen't accept any changes even when using the administrator mode, any idea how to change it?
[10:23] <jontec> fowlduck: no, I have to use word and stuff as well and open office is just too much of a hassle... If I could only use rails... meaning having nothing else to do on the computer... from the point of productivity
[10:23] <fowlduck> abdusabri: you could use a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:23] <fowlduck> abdusabri: or manually go into the xorg.conf and add the resolutions you want
[10:23] <pwn4tt4ck> thats what I like about linux
[10:23] <Linux_Galore> jontec: I use koffice, fast simple and works with doc's
[10:24] <fowlduck> jontec: ahh, ok, yeah, i'm on a mac and i use os x, so...
[10:24] <jontec> Linux_Galore: never tried it... hmm...
[10:24] <abdusabri> fowlduck, thanx alot :)
[10:24] <jontec> fowlduck: lucky.. :D
[10:24] <fowlduck> abdusabri: np :)
[10:24] <fowlduck> jontec: yeah, it's nice :)  office for mac is expensive though, like insanely so
[10:24] <jontec> Linux_Galore: I'll download it sometime.... (I'm on dial-up so not until after holidays)
[10:25] <pwn4tt4ck> fowlduck
[10:25] <Linux_Galore> jontec: koffice will also support ODF (open document format) so openoffice user will be happy
[10:25] <fowlduck> pwn4tt4ck
[10:25] <pwn4tt4ck> fowlduck: nothing is expensive, its the internet*
[10:25] <pwn4tt4ck> :p
[10:25] <Forgacius> back
[10:25] <Forgacius> isp booted me out
[10:25] <Forgacius> always does that when I ask a quesiton!
[10:25] <fowlduck> pwn4tt4ck: i pay for all my software and music
[10:25] <pwn4tt4ck> me too :\
[10:25] <jontec> fowlduck: yeah mainly why I didn't go for it in the end. :D The software... I was convinced that I was going to have to buy a copy of windows.... and office for either one and adobe CS and the list kept going on and on
[10:25] <pwn4tt4ck> But the point is, you dont have to if you want to risk jail time :D
[10:26] <fowlduck> jontec: software costs are often a limiting factor
[10:26] <Forgacius> oh wait
[10:26] <jontec> Linux_Galore: keeps getting better and better I'll see if I can find some screen shots
[10:26] <Forgacius> that temporary file is gone now :(
[10:26] <pwn4tt4ck> CS is awesome, except my computer freezes every time I run it lmao
[10:26] <Forgacius> I can't delete it!
[10:26] <fowlduck> ok, so we lay that issue to rest
[10:27] <Forgacius> no wdms are running in the ps list tho
[10:27] <fowlduck> and kdm still won't run?
[10:27] <fowlduck> Forgacius: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[10:27] <Forgacius> tup
[10:27] <Forgacius> ok
[10:28] <pwn4tt4ck> how long does it take to learn all of this stuff, commands and what not?
[10:29] <Forgacius> nope still not
[10:29] <jontec> just thinking about forgacius 's problem... this would have been a mess on gentoo... actually it wouldn't have worked... kde and X would have prevented it I think... the use flags would have been all wrong
[10:29] <Forgacius> but at least kde seems to be my default now.. at least it was highlighted with (previous)
[10:29] <fowlduck> Forgacius: lame
[10:29] <Forgacius> lame?
[10:29] <fowlduck> pwn4tt4ck: I still don't know all of them, and it's not a matter of knowing all of them
[10:30] <fowlduck> Forgacius: I wish it worked, that's lame
[10:30] <Forgacius> oh IC
[10:30] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: anything I know I know by use.... I vaguely remember things that I'm told.. but not a lot more than that
[10:30] <Forgacius> hmmm... so the locks gone nothing stopping it but it still doesn't load
[10:30] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: but the grep thing stuck (but I used it once or twice then experimented)
[10:31] <fowlduck> Forgacius: it's what i like to call: BORKED
[10:31] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: I constantly have problems so.... yeah
[10:31] <fowlduck> jontec: me too, that's how i learn.  os x gets boring for me, nothing to fix
[10:31] <seven11> how can i play rmvb files
[10:31] <pwn4tt4ck> jontec: how do you get the red? I promise I wont overuse it.... eventually
[10:31] <fowlduck> the red?
[10:32] <fowlduck> pwn4tt4ck: like this?
[10:32] <pwn4tt4ck> yeh
[10:32] <pwn4tt4ck> :D
[10:32] <fowlduck> that just turns red when someone uses your name
[10:32] <pwn4tt4ck> really
[10:32] <pwn4tt4ck> weird
[10:32] <fowlduck> yep
[10:32] <Forgacius> I guess that means I just need to reformat and reinstall KDE
[10:32] <pwn4tt4ck> Thanks :D
[10:32] <fowlduck> start typing someone's name and press tab
[10:32] <fowlduck> it completes it
[10:32] <pwn4tt4ck> fowlduck: tab?
[10:33] <Linux_Galore> jontec: I view koffice as what OpenOffice should have been, quick innovative and not full or rubbish no one ever uses
[10:33] <fowlduck> pwn4tt4ck: the tab key
[10:33] <pwn4tt4ck> fowlduck: yeh omg yeh
[10:33] <pwn4tt4ck> ok
[10:33] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: you just type my name :D
[10:33] <pwn4tt4ck> jontec: yeh cause it's easy
[10:33] <fowlduck> Forgacius: I would have done that a long time ago
[10:33] <Forgacius> lol fowl
[10:33] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: better yet you can type parts like "jon" the press tab and it'll do it for you :D
[10:33] <Linux_Galore> jontec: also koffice intergrates with your contacts and email stuff in kde
[10:33] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: exactly
[10:33] <Forgacius> could it be just that theres too much on the HDD?
[10:33] <Forgacius> ie delete some files?
[10:33] <jontec> Linux_Galore: I don't have contacts :D
[10:34] <pwn4tt4ck> jontec: way ahead of you. why isnt it red on my screen when I address you?
[10:34] <Forgacius> (not enough workingspace?)
[10:34] <Linux_Galore> jontec: you get it with the email suite
[10:34] <fowlduck> Forgacius: not likely, probably just borked in some fashion that is difficult to determine
[10:34] <Forgacius> when/if my isp guy comes I'll show him what his connection did and delete some and try it
[10:34] <Forgacius> if he gets here
[10:34] <fowlduck> pwn4tt4ck: because it's a way to alert you if someone mentions you
[10:34] <jontec> Linux_Galore: I have an exchange account for e-mail. :D I never get to use outside clients.... only the web app my school has... it's not worth the setup for personal... I never use it... I am almost constantly working
[10:35] <pwn4tt4ck> fowlduck: makes sense
[10:35] <fowlduck> pwn4tt4ck: not a way to show you tab-completed
[10:35] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: it's not supposed to
[10:35] <pwn4tt4ck> you know, I was wondering how you guys got everyone's usernames right all the time without any typos
[10:35] <fowlduck> pwn4tt4ck: if you go to another tab and someone mentions you it alerts you on that tab and when you click over here you can instantly notice who said your name
[10:35] <pwn4tt4ck> fowlduck: right, makes it stand out
[10:36] <Linux_Galore> pwn4tt4ck:   type the first three letters then hit tab
[10:36] <Forgacius> lol pwn I just abbreviate
[10:36] <fowlduck> pwn4tt4ck: precisely
[10:36] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: I just learned the tab-completion thing lately... like tried it last night... and have been working on it in Konsole
[10:36] <Forgacius> Linux that works if people don't have similar nicks
[10:36] <jontec> Forgacius: I've typed your's all night
[10:36] <fowlduck> I have to type Linux_ then press tab
[10:36] <Linux_Galore> Forgacius: then tyoe 4 letters
[10:36] <Linux_Galore> type*
[10:36] <Forgacius> jon Forge would do
[10:36] <pwn4tt4ck> fowlduck: or I can type "lin" + tab + down down down + enter :p
[10:37] <jontec> Forga :D
[10:37] <Forgacius> lol
[10:37] <Forgacius> Forgester, Forgerooni, Forgaholic, I've used many varients in my time
[10:37] <fowlduck> Forgacius: since you have ForgeAus and Forgacious I have to type Forga and hit tab
[10:37] <Forgacius> yeah
[10:37] <jontec> lol... weird.
[10:37] <Forgacius> I can't seem to ping my ghost out
[10:37] <pwn4tt4ck> what does that mean?
[10:37] <Linux_Galore> Forgacius: heh heh 2 letters will work in konversation
[10:38] <Forgacius> my "empty" shell of a nick thats left over from when I got booted is still there
[10:38] <fowlduck> it's not pinging out, he means time out
[10:38] <pwn4tt4ck> oh ok
[10:38] <Forgacius> fowl no I meant ping out
[10:38] <pwn4tt4ck> I need to hang in here more often... I just keep learning
[10:38] <Forgacius> I tried to ping it to get it to time out
[10:38] <Forgacius> but that didn't work
[10:38] <fowlduck> I'm in xchat aqua, and i don't like windows-style completion
[10:38] <fowlduck> hmm
[10:38] <Forgacius> xchat aqua?
[10:38] <pwn4tt4ck> <3 konversation
[10:38] <fowlduck> and that works?
[10:38] <Linux_Galore> Fo type  fo tab down arrow key enter
[10:38] <Forgacius> like I said ghosting is a fine art
[10:38] <jontec> he's on OS X
[10:38] <fowlduck> xchat aqua is on the mac
[10:38] <jontec> remember :D
[10:39] <Linux_Galore> oops
[10:39] <Forgacius> I sued to like MacIRC
[10:39] <Linux_Galore> Forgacius:  type  fo tab down arrow key enter
[10:39] <Forgacius> lol Linux
[10:39] <Forgacius> I'm in mIRC now
[10:39] <Forgacius> ForgeAus
[10:39] <Forgacius> its a double tab that does it in that client
[10:39] <Forgacius> no arrow keys
[10:39] <jontec> I use the aqua style in kopete when I use it.. (but never for IRC) and but I can't find it on edgy....
[10:39] <Linux_Galore> Forgacius: hit it twice
[10:39] <fowlduck> yeah, windows-style completion
[10:39] <Forgacius> you just cycle through them with the tab key
[10:39] <fowlduck> no thanks
[10:40] <Forgacius> yes I'm aware mIRC stole that style completion
[10:40] <pwn4tt4ck> I'm not allowed to plug my website am I?
[10:40] <Forgacius> well "stole"
[10:40] <fowlduck> uses
[10:40] <Linux_Galore> actually just hit the tab a few times and it goes down the list of similar names
[10:40] <jontec> Forgacius: back when I first started with mIRC.... 8th grade... on Hyperiums... I HATED IT
[10:40] <fowlduck> Linux_Galore: not on mine
[10:40] <Forgacius> I love mIRC
[10:40] <jontec> Forgacius: that guy always creeped me out
[10:40] <Forgacius> my fav IRC client!
[10:41] <jontec> Forgacius: how an you say that!?!
[10:41] <Forgacius> what guy?
[10:41] <jontec> can*
[10:41] <Forgacius> easily
[10:41] <Forgacius> I love mirc!
[10:41] <jontec> that asked you to register...   I have tanks... big communist ones.. and cookies... and only one color of paint
[10:43] <Forgacius> mIRC doesn't have any by default
[10:43] <pwn4tt4ck> lmao
[10:43] <pwn4tt4ck> jontec: you win
[10:44] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: si. me gusta la KDE (I use la as compared to el)
[10:44] <Forgacius> besides most IRC clients you could, if you wanted (I don't know why you would tho) add them to!
[10:44] <Forgacius> the colours aren't a problem really you just need a client that can read them!
[10:44] <Linux_Galore> Forgacius: no I just ignore them
[10:44] <Forgacius> in fact I have a little fun with them... try in mIRC typing this line:
[10:44] <Forgacius> 2 red ducks
[10:44] <jontec> but after thinking about it (after calling every red thing at my school communist) KDE is blue... and ubuntu is brown... which is close to red... which is not cool at all
[10:44] <Forgacius> (with no spaces before the 2)
[10:44] <maploin> how come there is no syntax highlighting in vim? or vim.ruby?
[10:44] <Forgacius> in red
[10:45] <pwn4tt4ck> jontec: hablas espanol? Que bueno! Como hago el enie con el squiggly line en linux?
[10:45] <fowlduck> maploin: sounds like a question for #vim
[10:45] <kev1n> i am on kubuntu as of now..... i have friends telling me to switch to gnome..... please tell me why kde is better so that i can rebuff them
[10:45] <Forgacius> how does konversation see mirc colours?
[10:45] <hyper_ch> !es | pwn4tt4ck
[10:45] <ubotu> pwn4tt4ck: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:45] <pwn4tt4ck> kev1n: prettier colors
[10:45] <jontec> No se como. :D
[10:45] <maploin> fowlduck: no, it's ubuntu specific, it works in my other distro
[10:45] <fowlduck> maploin: it's configuration specific of some sort
[10:45] <jontec> I can't even type the e which is in my NAME (not spanish.. but whatever... it's french... but I am not...)
[10:45] <maploin> and besides, there is no vim.ruby in other distro afaik
[10:46] <Linux_Galore> Forgacius: you know how little kids like those colourfull silly books, but as you grow up you realise how immature it is, well that's mirc to me
[10:46] <pwn4tt4ck> jontec: de donde eres? english word!!!
[10:46] <fowlduck> maploin: make sure konsole is allowing colors
[10:46] <kev1n> pwn4tt4ck... other than colors...anything else?
[10:46] <maploin> it does
[10:46] <pwn4tt4ck> kev1n: yes, let me think
[10:46] <Forgacius> Linux, I think your jaded
[10:46] <Forgacius> kolours are a GOOD thing
[10:46] <pwn4tt4ck> kev1n: I just switched
[10:46] <Forgacius> they activate your brain, and can be used to set moods
[10:46] <Linux_Galore> Forgacius: if your a child yes
[10:46] <jontec> Yo soy de los Estados Unidos.. :D y tu?
[10:47] <pwn4tt4ck> kev1n: no.. just the colors
[10:47] <Forgacius> why do you think theming is such a big thing?
[10:47] <fowlduck> maploin: can you get any other language specific highlighting?
[10:47] <maploin> nope, none
[10:47] <Linux_Galore> Forgacius: it shows insecurity and the intent not to stick to the subject
[10:47] <kev1n> pwn4tt4ck: ...thats why i chose kde in the first place...the colors
[10:47] <pwn4tt4ck> jontec: soy de los estados tambien :D
[10:47] <fowlduck> maploin: I know the problem, gimme a second
[10:47] <Forgacius> Linux how so?
[10:47] <pwn4tt4ck> kev1n: same
[10:47] <pwn4tt4ck> kev1n: plus gnome didnt feel as 'feature packed'... I dunno, I like the KDE start bar
[10:48] <pwn4tt4ck> omg the kde... launch bar :D
[10:48] <kev1n> ok
[10:48] <pwn4tt4ck> windows = bad
[10:48] <jontec> kev1n: stuff actually works... and it works together and most of the programs have a big K in it :D
[10:48] <kev1n> yes,...thats for sure
[10:48] <Linux_Galore> Forgacius: one thing you learn as you mature, its all rubbish made to hide what is "real", once you learn that you then stick to simplicity because thats hard and leaves no were to hid your true soul
[10:48] <Rob-West> http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/29/hussein.reax/index.html
[10:48] <Forgacius> kde startbar seems pretty much a ripoff of winXP's anyway... (sorry to say.. it but they seem much the same to me, cept maybe virtual desktops)
[10:48] <pwn4tt4ck> this guy was like, "I dont want a system that crashes all the time, thats why I'd never use a mac!!" other guy, "Well what do you use now thats so much better than a mac?" original guy, "windows!"
[10:48] <Forgacius> which you can addinto XP but most people dont get those powertoys
[10:49] <jontec> kev1n: each gnome program seems to be made by a different community and it doesn't seem to have that "home" kind of feeling that I have come to love in KDE
[10:49] <kev1n> thanks jontec..... thats the sort of thing i was looking for
[10:49] <pwn4tt4ck> jontec: donde ensenas espanol? omg english so the censor wont catch me :D
[10:49] <Forgacius> lol mac?... doesn't Macintosh stand for Machine Applications Crash If Not The Operating System Hangs?
[10:50] <fowlduck> maploin: add this to the TOP of ~/.bashrc
[10:50] <jontec> Forgacius: but KDE did it better... so they deserve to keep it.... unlike Windows... who basically (but legally) stole from mac and umm.... eff'd it up. :D
[10:50] <pwn4tt4ck> I went to kubuntu-es, and no one talks :\
[10:50] <Rob-West> nice one Forgacius
[10:50] <fowlduck> maploin: export TERM=xterm-color
[10:51] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: que significa ensenas? no se... T_T | what filter?
[10:51] <Forgacius> I don't get that jon, how does the startmenu rip of Macintosh, I mean the user interface, icons, and windows and close buttons and stuff sure... they ripped off mac.. minimizing maximizing control panel even
[10:51] <Forgacius> but the startmenu????
[10:51] <Forgacius> not that I could tell
[10:51] <fowlduck> maploin: let me know if it works
[10:51] <pwn4tt4ck> jontec: habla solamente en espanol y mira
[10:51] <maploin> fowlduck: still nothing
[10:51] <Linux_Galore> Forgacius: everyone has stood on the shoulder of those before them, even Apple
[10:52] <Forgacius> I agree LG
[10:52] <pwn4tt4ck> cuando yo hablo solamente en espanol el server me da (correcto?) un mensaje
[10:52] <fowlduck> maploin: restart your terminal
[10:52] <hastesaver> !es | pwn4tt4ck
[10:52] <ubotu> pwn4tt4ck: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:52] <maploin> i did that
[10:52] <kev1n> are we in a non english channel here?...:(
[10:52] <ForgeAus> lol which is why a Window Manager like IceWM is nice
[10:52] <fowlduck> maploin: and your terminal isn't in color now?
[10:52] <Linux_Galore> kev1n: no
[10:52] <ForgeAus> it seems like middle ground between many others
[10:52] <kev1n> hahahaha
[10:52] <pwn4tt4ck> no its english, some of us speak the spanish though
[10:53] <ForgeAus> but it lacks features
[10:53] <maploin> fowlduck: my terminal always had colors, just not vim
[10:53] <hastesaver> pwn4tt4ck, but not here, please :-)
[10:53] <fowlduck> maploin: hrm....
[10:53] <pwn4tt4ck> jontec: asi como este: http://docs.python.org/tut/node3.html
[10:53] <pwn4tt4ck> wait
[10:53] <kev1n> pwn4tt4ck: i know...it was my cryptic way of saying..please speak english
[10:53] <jontec> Forgacius: I mean (assuming history stands and everything) that Windows stole their initial windows system from mac after apple gave them the rights or something for a year advance of office for the Macintosh
[10:53] <fowlduck> maploin: then you can take that out of your .bashrc
[10:53] <pwn4tt4ck> hastesaver: ok, not here
[10:53] <pwn4tt4ck> kev1n: sorry, its five am, I'm running on nothing
[10:53] <maploin> fowlduck: i already did that
[10:54] <kev1n> pwn4tt4ck: np
[10:54] <ForgeAus> lol jon then they successfully sued MS for making windows from it
[10:54] <kev1n> its 8pm where i am
[10:54] <ForgeAus> but MS still made more out of it than the lawsuit cost them!
[10:54] <hastesaver> kev1n, sarcasm is bad. Plain speak is good. Cryptic speak is... ?
[10:54] <pwn4tt4ck> kev1n: you are so lucky... dude I'm making coffee right now
[10:54] <pwn4tt4ck> cryptic speak is as bad as espanish :D
[10:55] <kev1n> :)
[10:55] <pwn4tt4ck> si el puedo hablar cryptic, puedo hablar espanol
[10:55] <pwn4tt4ck> jk
[10:55] <pwn4tt4ck> I'll stop now
[10:55] <pwn4tt4ck> el puedo, see that?? thats what happens at 5am with no coffee
[10:55] <pwn4tt4ck> puede* and I'll be right back with some coffee
[10:56] <jontec> lol.
[10:56] <ForgeAus> no don't drink coffee! it stuffs up your sleeping cycles
[10:57] <ForgeAus> besides for every amount of extra time coffee gives you, you need to pay it back into your sleep bank after!...
[10:57] <fowlduck> maploin: I think /usr/share/vim/vimcurrent/debian.vim holds the problem, look what it's looking for to determin if it's a color terminal?
[10:58] <fowlduck> maploin: and if you check out vimrc in the /etc/vim directory, you'll notice that it's running this config when it launches
[10:58] <ForgeAus> hmmm vim emacs... hmmm... I think I'll stick with pico and kate!
[10:58] <fowlduck> mac ftw
[10:59] <maploin> fowlduck: thanks for all the help, gtg now
[10:59] <fowlduck> maploin: take care
[10:59] <jontec> ForgeAus: I know this is sacrligious... but I can't blame windows... I mean I can't image having windows without using the minimize, maximize, and close buttons... I still have my black and white macintosh II in my room. :D It survived Y2K no problem (though I don't know if Y2K was as big as they said it was... its like what my chemistry teacher said... with asbestos... it's a ton of asbestos and the particles in the air
[10:59] <jontec> that causes problems not having stuff made out of it..... and even small exposure won't cause problems... it's the exposure over a prolonged period of time...) /ramble
[11:01] <jontec> hey, fowlduck ... I have a problem with ls on a gentoo machine... anyway I could get it to do the color ls automatically and stilll accept commands...  In KDE's "Monitor and Display" System settings, under Choose Graphics card, should I choose i810 or "Intel 845"? I have a "Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device"
[11:01] <pwn4tt4ck> ForgeAus: I'm on break from school, christmas holiday :D I have the next tomorrow night and the day after to catch up on sleep, unless its new years, in which case poo
[11:02] <fowlduck> jontec: not a clue, my man
[11:02] <malik__> hi there i am trying to install frostwire but instead of saving the file its opening it with kate and gives me the error that if i saved it it will be corrupted and then i am unable to install from it.............what do i do?
[11:02] <fowlduck> jontec: google ftw
[11:02] <jontec> fowlduck: okay :D I should probably try #gentoo. :D my sysadmin has been trying to fix it since day one... I want to fix it by surprise. :D
[11:02] <fowlduck> hehe
[11:03] <hastesaver> !frostwire | malik__
[11:03] <ubotu> malik__: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:03] <fowlduck> hey, anyone know in what file TERM is set?
[11:03] <hastesaver> malik__, are you following exactly those instructions?
[11:03] <pwn4tt4ck> they have an opsour version of limewire? omg thats great
[11:03] <jontec> well it's 5:00...  :D
[11:04] <fowlduck> really?
[11:04] <jontec> lol. oh never mind...
[11:05] <jontec> thought it was gonna be... never mind.
[11:05] <fowlduck> hey, anyone know in what file the TERM environment variable is set?
[11:05] <berylCuddly> i guess if ur camping in sleeping bags
[11:05] <berylCuddly> anyways.
[11:05] <jontec> anyone know what the TERM environment variable is?
[11:05] <malik__> i tried to download the exe file from frostwire website n then saved it on my desktop and then tried to install it with sudo dpkg and also from kubuntu package menu option but no use
[11:06] <fowlduck> jontec: thanks for bein a smart-alec ;)
[11:07] <jontec> fowlduck: well I don't know
[11:07] <kev1n> malik_..... the exe file or the .deb file?
[11:07] <kev1n> jontec: are you going to be in the sack by yourself?
[11:07] <jontec> dude... .hack//roots is on... I didn't even know it'd been released in america
[11:08] <jontec> kev1n: well yes... I hope I don't find anyone unexpected in it...
[11:08] <malik__> its .deb file but it automatically gets open with kate n it says its a bin file and will be corrupted if i saved it.......but i saved it nonetheless.....but it doesnt install
[11:08] <kev1n> jontec: kewl...
[11:09] <kev1n> malik_: have a look at this...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:09] <pwn4tt4ck> jontec: I'm staying up all night while I still can. :D I figure in 20 years I wont have the energy to stay up all night and pull a full work day the next day :D lol
[11:10] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: well I stopped working at 11:30 ish...
[11:10] <malik__> i looked at it but the version on ubuntu site is old
[11:10] <berylCuddly> malik_ can't u just right click the frostwire deb file
[11:10] <fowlduck> bah
[11:10] <fowlduck> works now
[11:10] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: when my processor would only run at 800Mhz and my swap was dead.
[11:10] <fowlduck> stupid
[11:10] <berylCuddly> malik_ and then install it there
[11:11] <fowlduck> too bad maploin isn't here still, i figured out his problem
[11:11] <berylCuddly> malik_ under kubuntu package manager
[11:11] <malik__> tried both ways ........right click and also from terminal
[11:11] <berylCuddly> was there error msg in terminal?
[11:11] <malik__> yes
[11:11] <berylCuddly> could u paste it, thx
[11:11] <berylCuddly> !paste
[11:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:11] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: it stinks.... because I was being very productive.... OH! and an rails migration to a database wasn't working (straight from the frickin' book)
[11:11] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: it all went downhill from there
[11:12] <pwn4tt4ck> jontec:  lol. I deliver pizza for a living and work on websites on the side. :\ I was in the middle of my shift and my clutch gave out.   Push clutch, let go of gas, move to next gear.
[11:14] <fowlduck> jontec: manuals are overrated
[11:15] <fowlduck> jontec: I used to own all manual transmission vehicles
[11:15] <jontec> me*
[11:15] <pwn4tt4ck> jontec: lol, and stick takes a fair amount of practice but its not dificil by any means
[11:15] <fowlduck> it's annoying by all means though
[11:15] <pwn4tt4ck> only when your clutch goes
[11:15] <pwn4tt4ck> :\
[11:15] <pwn4tt4ck> like mine
[11:15] <jontec> fowlduck, pwn4tt4ck: wait... there's a difference between stick and clutch...? hmm.. interesting
[11:15] <fowlduck> as soon as you don't need to own old cars, get an automatic, imo
[11:16] <pwn4tt4ck> the clutch is the pedal, the stick is the thing you move to get the gears to change
[11:16] <fowlduck> manuals have three pedals and a stick
[11:16] <berylCuddly> hey malik_ i did the right click thing and it seems to work for me
[11:16] <pwn4tt4ck> fowlduck: you know all these 'street racers'? none of them can outshift an automatic :D but some of them come damn close
[11:17] <berylCuddly> malik_ when i start frostwire it just says i don't have JRE, but shows me a link to upgrade JRE, not the same as wwhat u encountered
[11:17] <fowlduck> pwn4tt4ck: I just hate manuals in traffic
[11:17] <jontec> pwn4tt4ck: well, yeah... I thought that you meant that it was a design difference... like we have an automatic then we have a clutch and then we have a stick... but okay. :D
[11:17] <malik__> berylCuddly: how do u download it thought?........damn thing always gets open with kate on my system
[11:17] <berylCuddly> malik_ maybe try uninstall whatever u installed now with dpkg -r, then do the right click method?
[11:17] <pwn4tt4ck> are we allowed to cuss in here? I wouldnt drop any f bombs but, is damn ok?
[11:17] <berylCuddly> let me see
[11:18] <dope> what's a good program for viewing a webcam on a remote computer?
[11:18] <fowlduck> dope:  firefox
[11:19] <fowlduck> dope:  just have your webcam publish a snapshot from the webcam every couple of minutes
[11:19] <berylCuddly> malik_ just now it's opening with kate, but the first time i did it, there was no kate
[11:19] <dope> is there no better way?
[11:19] <berylCuddly> malik_ wierd, so i'm not sure
[11:19] <pwn4tt4ck> between me and my stoner brother, the christmas food went away in a hurry
[11:19] <fowlduck> dope:  there might be, but that's the way I would do it...then again, i'm a geek
[11:19] <dope> :/
[11:20] <pwn4tt4ck> fowlduck: you should join my website
[11:20] <fowlduck> pwn4tt4ck: should I?
[11:20] <fowlduck> oh joy!
[11:20] <pwn4tt4ck> fowlduck: yes, the greatest choice you will ever have to choose... that is... behind every other choice in life... but still... remysheppard dot com
[11:21] <pwn4tt4ck> Quick! Guess my name!
[11:21] <berylCuddly> malik_ if ur still here, i found workaround, all u had to do is right click the link, and go open with firefox webbrowser
[11:21] <berylCuddly> malik_ that way u start downloading instead of previewing with kate
[11:21] <fowlduck> pwn4tt4ck: Tom Cruise?
[11:21] <pwn4tt4ck> fowlduck: wow! You're good... how did you know!?
[11:22] <berylCuddly> malik__ not sure if ur name has two dashes, but my msg above might help
[11:22] <pwn4tt4ck> fowlduck: no use in hiding it now
[11:22] <pwn4tt4ck|i> wait
[11:22] <malik__> yes checking that thanx mate
[11:22] <berylCuddly> np, hopefully that helps
[11:23] <fowlduck> i: uhh, if I joined your forum i would probably never come back, i have a terrible memory and i find habits hard to pick up
[11:23] <pwn4tt4ck> I was going to change my nick to i<3scientology, but it didnt work
[11:23] <berylCuddly> lol
[11:23] <berylCuddly> i don't think they allow signs
[11:23] <malik__> berylCuddly: although i have kmldonkey working perfectly on my system........do u think that i need frostwire though?
[11:23] <berylCuddly> i tried to use (='.'=) as my screen name
[11:23] <pwn4tt4ck> berylCuddly: that was the problem
[11:23] <Pensa`MIA> how to delete all kicker data and reset it to factory default?
[11:23] <Pensa`MIA> because mine just went off screen :)
[11:24] <pwn4tt4ck> fowlduck: plz? you dont have to come back, just make it look like people come to my site lmao. naw you dont have to join
[11:24] <berylCuddly> malik__ i'm not sure about that, sorrie
[11:24] <ForgeAus> lol windows firefox  doesn't want to update to 2.0 yet
[11:24] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: or it won't update to 2.0 by design
[11:24] <berylCuddly> they need to update the themes on kde-look lol, so they can fit firefox 2.0
[11:25] <ForgeAus> possibly
[11:25] <fowlduck> ForgeAus: likely
[11:25] <pwn4tt4ck> just use konqueror?
[11:25] <fowlduck> ewww
[11:25] <fowlduck> please don't make me hit you
[11:25] <pwn4tt4ck> I like it
[11:25] <fowlduck> masochist
[11:25] <berylCuddly> i hate the startup screen of konquerer, blue, light blue crap
[11:25] <pwn4tt4ck> I like blue :\
[11:25] <berylCuddly> me too
[11:25] <fowlduck> I like mexican food
[11:26] <berylCuddly> but the konqueror startup screen blue looks cheapish =
[11:26] <fowlduck> a lot
[11:26] <berylCuddly> i like shiny things =)
[11:26] <berylCuddly> lol
[11:26] <pwn4tt4ck> this is the first channel I've ever been too that I havent been scared of. every other channel is like 'OMG I GOT SO MANY CC'S TODAY!!!  =)
[11:28] <fowlduck> uhh, what?
[11:28] <pwn4tt4ck> you got the lyric wrong >_<
[11:28] <fowlduck> all you otha brothas can't deny
[11:28] <aseigo> ah, right.. and i can not lie
[11:29] <pwn4tt4ck> everyone should type /j #sir.mix-a-lot
[11:29] <fowlduck> i joined up
[11:29] <fowlduck> where is everyone else?
[11:29] <pwn4tt4ck> dunno
[11:30] <fowlduck> obviously they're not cool
[11:30] <fowlduck> anyways
[11:31] <pwn4tt4ck> is jontec still here?
[11:31] <jontec_> .hack conglomerate... happy communist america to all :D.... (goodnight... morning... whatever)
[11:31] <jontec_> yes
[11:31] <jontec_> no
[11:31] <jontec_> bye :D
[11:31] <jontec_> any last words?
[11:31] <pwn4tt4ck> yes
[11:31] <pwn4tt4ck> umm
[11:31] <pwn4tt4ck> take care?
[11:32] <jontec_> k then
[11:32] <dope> i can't connect to my remote pc :|
[11:33] <syed> any idea about irc channel for python
[11:34] <Pensacola> thx, it worked :)
[11:35] <syed> [Channel] : what should i do to get identified to that channel, i am using kubuntu-konversation
[11:36] <pwn4tt4ck> syed: what do you mean?
[11:37] <syed> pwn4tt4ck: i want to login to irc channel for python, can u pls tell the irc node for it
[11:37] <cntb> on default install some help not available
[11:37] <dope> maybe my internet connection at home died
[11:37] <dope> i can't ping my ip
[11:37] <cntb> when accessing via Kde start help
[11:37] <Pensacola> remember to always lock the kicker taskbar, else it acts really strange and dissappears sometimes :)
[11:38] <syed> pwn4tt4ck: also i would like to know how to login using it
[11:38] <cntb> what is the name of apt-get install package for kde help ?
[11:38] <pwn4tt4ck> syed: oh do you know the name of the channel?
[11:38] <syed> pwn4tt4ck: i dont know
[11:39] <pwn4tt4ck> syed: type in /j #python
[11:40] <berylCuddly> yay i was able to successfully install java runtime environement!! with synaptic, adept do suck, last time i tried with adept it froze on the agree to license page =)
[11:41] <pwn4tt4ck> berylCuddly: how did you do that!? I havent been able to install jre yet
[11:41] <berylCuddly> do u use kubuntu edgy?
[11:41] <pwn4tt4ck> ummm
[11:41] <berylCuddly> well seeing this is kubuntu forum, do u use edgy/
[11:41] <pwn4tt4ck> I just updated to kubuntu a few days ago from ubuntu and gnome
[11:41] <berylCuddly> or dapper
[11:41] <pwn4tt4ck> I dont know
[11:41] <pwn4tt4ck> let me check
[11:41] <berylCuddly> kk
[11:41] <syed> pwn4tt4ck: it states, " [Channel]  You need to be identified to join that channel"
[11:42] <pwn4tt4ck> syed: you're in konversation?
[11:42] <pwn4tt4ck> syed: and you're trying to join the #python channel?
[11:42] <pwn4tt4ck> berylCuddly: how do you check what version of kubuntu you run?... cause idk
[11:43] <berylCuddly> pwn4att4ck i was gonna ask u lol, especially after u said u were gonna go check, let me google
[11:43] <syed> pwn4tt4ck: yes i am in konversation
[11:43] <syed> pwn4tt4ck: yes i want to join python channel
[11:44] <pwn4tt4ck> syed: click this ---> #python
[11:44] <berylCuddly> pw4att4ck  type the following in konsole and hit enter: less /etc/debian_version
[11:44] <pwn4tt4ck> berylCuddly: thx
[11:45] <berylCuddly> np, learnt something myself lol
[11:45] <syed_> pwn4tt4ck: even after clicking this, it states the same
[11:45] <pwn4tt4ck> it tells me this: testing unstable (break) debian version END
[11:46] <berylCuddly> hmm let me google more than
[11:46] <pwn4tt4ck> Whats the error one more time?
[11:46] <berylCuddly> ur prolly on edgy, but one sec
[11:47] <pwn4tt4ck> syed_: can you tell me what the error is again?
[11:48] <syed_> pwn4tt4ck: it states that "You need to be identified to join the channel".
[11:48] <pwn4tt4ck> oh
[11:48] <pwn4tt4ck> syed_: I got it
[11:49] <pwn4tt4ck> syed_:  type this: /ns register <password> <email>
[11:49] <pwn4tt4ck> syed_: replace <password> with a password and <email> with your email
[11:49] <berylCuddly> pwn4tt4ck anyway edgy/dapper shouldn't matter that much, ur on kubuntu right, so this is what I did: go to adept manager, search for synaptic, install that using adept manager, then open synaptic, search for jre in synaptic, check to install jre, then after jre download and during the install process, click the triangle below the status bar to see details, u'll see a blue screen that u need to click ok on in order to proceed,
[11:49] <berylCuddly> to click ok, just press tab, then hit enter, and then agree to whatever else it asks u to do, and u should be ok
[11:49] <pwn4tt4ck> syed_: then type /j #python
[11:50] <berylCuddly> i think the problem i had with adept-manager was that i couldn't click ok for some reason, and that's why it stalled on adept-manager, luckily this time it worked for me, hopefully it'll work for u 2
[11:51] <pwn4tt4ck> berylCuddly: and to think I was trying to download things from sunmicrosystems
[11:51] <berylCuddly> o hehe
[11:52] <pwn4tt4ck> well check it out, I already have it installed
[11:53] <berylCuddly> lol nice
[11:53] <berylCuddly> do u know what kmldonkey is?
[11:53] <pwn4tt4ck> syed_: did you get it?
[11:53] <pwn4tt4ck> berylCuddly: nope
[11:53] <berylCuddly> i think malik mentioned it
[11:53] <berylCuddly> cool
[11:53] <pwn4tt4ck> its weird to think that I could go to bed now and wake up at noon and still be tired lol
[11:55] <pwn4tt4ck> hahaha, my bro is waking up. I remember when he went to bed a few hours back
[11:55] <berylCuddly> !kmldonkey
[11:55] <ubotu> kmldonkey: KDE GUI for MLDonkey. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 853 kB, installed size 2932 kB
[11:55] <berylCuddly> !MLDonkey
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about MLDonkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <pwn4tt4ck> !ubotu
[11:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:56] <pwn4tt4ck> he lies...
[11:56] <pwn4tt4ck> all-knowing, pish
[11:56] <berylCuddly> btw googled MLDonkey wiki, it == edonkey + lots others
[11:56] <pwn4tt4ck> !edonkey
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edonkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <berylCuddly> think i'll install kmldonkey now
[11:56] <pwn4tt4ck> I thought you were all knowing, !ubotu
[11:56] <berylCuddly> !emule
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emule - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <pwn4tt4ck> !e-ubotu.is.a.liar
[11:57] <pwn4tt4ck> OMG
[11:57] <pwn4tt4ck> he sent me a PM
[11:57] <pwn4tt4ck> and it said, "I'm only a bot, plz dont think I'm intelligent:
[11:57] <pwn4tt4ck> 06:06]  <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about your momma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <pwn4tt4ck> :D
[11:58] <pwn4tt4ck> syed__: did it work?
[11:59] <syed__> pwn4tt4ck: i am sorry to say, but still i am not able to connect.. can u tell me what should i do first
[11:59] <pwn4tt4ck> did you register your username?
[11:59] <syed__> how should i do that
[12:00] <pwn4tt4ck> type /msg nickserv register 1234
[12:00] <pwn4tt4ck> 1234 is your password
[12:00] <fowlduck> don't forget to identify afterwards
[12:00] <pwn4tt4ck> then type /msg nickserv identify 1234
[12:00] <pwn4tt4ck> then type /j #python
[12:01] <pwn4tt4ck> if you do it just like that, you should be good
[12:02] <pwn4tt4ck> syed made it!!
[12:03] <lord_kodak> I think I'm the only one that gets it
[12:03] <pwn4tt4ck> brb
[12:07] <pwn4tt4ck> aaaaaaaaand its dead
[12:08] <pwn4tt4ck> hey syed
[12:10] <pwn4tt4ck> k I'm going to bed
[12:12] <llutz> Moin
[12:12] <pwn4tt4ck> time for bed
[12:26] <tamacracker> why won't firefox open .php pages but instead makes you download it and not have a prog to open it?
[12:31] <bobby> how can i compile gtk apps on kubuntu?
[12:31] <tamacracker> hm.. seems like everyone's asleep
[12:31] <tamacracker> #ubuntu
[12:31] <bobby> the necicary files for pkg-config seem to be missing
[12:32] <bobby> try /join first
[12:35] <BeLinux> hello
[12:39] <BeLinux> this Adept manager confuses me
[12:40] <BeLinux> i find synaptic easier....
[12:41] <bobby> adept tryed to remove half my system lasttime i tried it since that i only use apt
[12:46] <BeLinux> i cannotz find apt
[12:46] <BeLinux> is it in kubuntu 5.10?
[12:46] <Ash-Fox> Yes.
[12:46] <Ash-Fox> If you're typing the command, you most likely mean 'apt-get', not 'apt'.
[12:47] <bobby> what do you mean by that can not find apt?
[12:47] <Jucato> !apt
[12:47] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:48] <bobby> apt-cache search <phrase> is also verry helpfull
[12:49] <BeLinux> ok..
[12:49] <BeLinux> i see..that is a command line only tool?
[12:49] <bobby> yes
[12:49] <bobby> adept is gui frontend
[12:49] <Ash-Fox> Many people use adept for installing/uninstalling/upgrading packages graphically on Kubuntu
[12:50] <bobby> synaptics is the gtk frontend
[12:50] <BeLinux> can i use synaptic? i know it from pclinuxos and like it. its very easy.
[12:50] <BeLinux> i dont get adept..
[12:50] <Ash-Fox> Yes.
[12:50] <BeLinux> sorry asking silly questions..but i just left windows world
[12:50] <bobby> yes you can i would recomend it even
[12:51] <Ash-Fox> 'sudo apt-get install synaptic' from a terminal if it isn't already installed
[12:51] <Ash-Fox> I would recommend you upgrade to 6.10 though...
[12:51] <BeLinux> now since 2 weeks on linux only
[12:51] <BeLinux> yes..but
[12:51] <bobby> np at all ubuntu is a beginners distro
[12:51] <BeLinux> i read that it is a risk to do that
[12:51] <BeLinux> to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.10
[12:52] <bobby> that is so easy to install that beginners prefere it
[12:52] <Ash-Fox> BeLinux, do tell you the truth.. I just install over it with the newer install cd
[12:52] <BeLinux> so easy?
[12:52] <BeLinux> 6.10 cd in the drive and thats it?
[12:52] <BeLinux> will update everything autom.?
[12:53] <Hobbsee> BeLinux: you need to go from 5.10 --> 6.06 --> 6.10, else you get dependancy problems.
[12:53] <g-henna> hi everyone!
[12:53] <BeLinux> and do i need an upgrade to 6.10?
[12:53] <Ash-Fox> BeLinux, if you want the more refined software.. yes.
[12:53] <BeLinux> i would like to get new kontact and koffice then i will be happy..i could do that within 5.10 or?
[12:53] <g-henna> i just bought a new printer, an hewlett-packard business inkjet 1000 and connected it via usb to my router, which i'm printing to using cups from my kubuntu machine
[12:53] <Ash-Fox> I don't think you can get the new kontact or koffice from 5.10, unless you compile them from scratch.
[12:54] <BeLinux> (i am lagging occasionally up to 2-3 minutes, so dont wonder about my  delays)
[12:54] <bobby> how can i see what version i got?
[12:54] <g-henna> via socket://192...:9100
[12:54] <BeLinux> hobbsee.. got it
[12:54] <Ash-Fox> g-henna, okay?
[12:54] <g-henna> now the problem is that when printing pdf files from kpdf that contain formulas (from latex), then there are white boxes within some of the formulas
[12:54] <Hobbsee> Ash-Fox: correct.  you dont want to.
[12:54] <g-henna> same from xpdf
[12:55] <g-henna> i use the hpijs driver for that printer
[12:55] <g-henna> i mean, everything looks fine, except for half deltas or half sum-signs
[12:55] <BeLinux> i have xubuntu 6.06..can i do an upgrade of Kubuntu with it??
[12:55] <g-henna> any idea what could cause/fix this?
[12:55] <Ash-Fox> BeLinux, in my opinion, you're better off doing a clean install, that way you don't get anything murky left behind.
[12:55] <BeLinux> if not i have to download the cd ...ufff....
[12:56] <adz21c> BeLinux: yes u can to m knowledge
[12:56] <Ash-Fox> BeLinux, no, that will install xubuntu 6.06
[12:56] <Ash-Fox> Converting then to kubuntu, requires some heavy terminal usage and lots of downloading, you're better off downloading the kubuntu cd
[12:57] <Hobbsee> BeLinux: you could just back up your data and do a clean install of 6.10, if you wanted to.
[12:57] <g-henna> odd, only special characters like big parentheses (or deltas, or greek letters) are cut in half some times
[12:57] <g-henna> which is stupid for equations, because i cannot understand it at all if it isn't complete...
[12:58] <g-henna> or is there any better place to ask?
[12:59] <Lynoure> g-henna: If you do not get an answer here, try on the Linux printing site
[12:59] <BeLinux> can i run the newest KDE and koffice with kubuntu 5.10 and all the other software? if yes i dont need to upgrade again?
[01:00] <ForgeAus> BeLinux, um try backports?
[01:00] <BeLinux> what do you mean?
[01:00] <BeLinux> what is that?
[01:00] <ForgeAus> whats 5.10? dapper badger???
[01:01] <fdoving> BeLinux: you need to upgrade if you don't want to make the packages yourself.
[01:01] <fdoving> 5.10 is breezy.
[01:01] <BeLinux> i see..s o that means the newest KDE and kontact etc...doesnt run on old versions?
[01:01] <ForgeAus> ok breezy if it has adept add the backports repository
[01:01] <g-henna> Lynoure: do they have an irc channel?
[01:02] <Lynoure> g-henna: I do not know.
[01:02] <BeLinux> like kontact for 6.06 doesnt run on 5.10? i understand that reight?
[01:02] <fdoving> BeLinux: correct.
[01:03] <BeLinux> i tried pclinuxos and there it was possible to update to the newest KDE desktop
[01:04] <BeLinux> with synaptic..so this is not possible in kubuntu?
[01:05] <g-henna> BeLinux: KDE depends on a lot of libraries. so if you wanted the newest KDE, you would also need the newest KDE libraries. these, in turn, depend on other much newer libraries... and if you try to upgrade all of them, i promise, you're better off with a new install
[01:05] <Jucato> depends if the latest KDE packages are available for that particular release
[01:05] <g-henna> and then, remember to create a /home partition
[01:05] <BeLinux> maybe i dont get the logic behind this..
[01:06] <Ash-Fox> KDE is very low memory.
[01:06] <BeLinux> for me as user..i could see that in pclinuxos i could upgrade to the newest KDE etc...
[01:06] <Hobbsee> BeLinux: for the later releases, kubuntu.org has later repositories of kde.
[01:06] <Hobbsee> BeLinux: but not for breezy
[01:06] <Hobbsee> BeLinux: i'd expect you werent 3 releases behind on pclinuxos
[01:07] <bobby> how can i see what kubuntu release im working on?
[01:07] <Hobbsee> bobby: cat /etc/release
[01:07] <Hobbsee> or help, about
[01:07] <Jucato> Hobbsee: lsb_release -a
[01:07] <bobby> ty
[01:07] <Hobbsee> oh wait, help, about will just tell you your kde version
[01:07] <BeLinux> so 2 different concepts
[01:08] <TheGateKeeper> BeLinux, what version of kde do you want?
[01:08] <BeLinux> hobbsee, i tried 0.93a.its very nice and easy..but so slow on my computer
[01:08] <BeLinux> kubuntu is faster
[01:08] <Jucato> BeLinux: well, you have to get used to the concept that different Linux distributions package and release software differently
[01:08] <Hobbsee> TheGateKeeper: nothing that's provided for breezy.
[01:09] <deathplanter> hi guys,anyone knows how to run first-start kde wizard in ubuntu?
[01:09] <deathplanter> kubuntu*
[01:09] <bobby> 6.10 :)
[01:09] <Jucato> deathplanter: install kpersonalizer and run it
[01:09] <deathplanter> Jucato: thx
[01:09] <tobre> Hi
[01:10] <BeLinux> TheGateKeeper: all i need, really is newest Kontact, Koffice..and an easy way of updating it. also i want to install own programs like Skype without problems etc,.
[01:10] <BeLinux> wondering if this can be done with Kubuntu 5.10 without upgrading again..like in windows..again and again
[01:11] <Hobbsee> BeLinux: FYI, the support for 5.10 (breezy) ends in...ah...april, anyway
[01:11] <bobby> im glad i didnt put gentoo on this laptop installing emacs from cvs takes its time
[01:11] <Hobbsee> the long time releases are supported for longer (3 years on desktop, 5 on server)
[01:11] <Hobbsee> bobby: haha, yeah
[01:12] <BeLinux> thats sentence sounds familiar to me (window$) ;)
[01:12] <tobre> I have a strange problem. When I suspend my laptop, kubuntu is not suspended, but it just locks up computer. Screen saver comes up and computer is locked.
[01:12] <tobre> What might be the reason?
[01:12] <TheGateKeeper> BeLinux, the problem you have with (k)ubuntu is there upgrade release cycle, if you want to get off this merry go round you need to installl another distro, sabayon & zenwalk may well be good candidates
[01:13] <Hobbsee> TheGateKeeper: dapper isnt so bad.  2 and a half years of support left
[01:13] <jerp> there's an upgrade guide to edgy on this page,  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[01:13] <Hobbsee> jerp: yes, *from* dapper, ie, 6.06
[01:13] <bobby> difference from windows is that supporting somethig for or 3 years are quite a few packages
[01:14] <bobby> releases*
[01:14] <TheGateKeeper> Hobbsee, & after 2.5 years what happens, direct upgrade or fresh install?  My money is on the latter
[01:14] <tobre> So, anybody doesn't have same issue?
[01:15] <BeLinux> gatekeeper. i like kubuntu because its fast and stable on my computer. but those are my requirements..i understand every release is a "closed" package. but still ican install own programs like Skype and WINE without problems right? i will try 6.06 as suggested.
[01:15] <BeLinux> i like pclinuxos as well..but its unfortunately so slow
[01:15] <bobby> omg pentium 3 650 mhz
[01:16] <bobby> i still find kde to load slow
[01:16] <bobby> gnome is way faster
[01:16] <Hobbsee> TheGateKeeper: upgrade to the next long time support release.
[01:17] <TheGateKeeper> BeLinux, (k)ubuntu is not exactly fast, there are others that are MUCH faster
[01:17] <Hobbsee> bobby: better to run xfce on that
[01:17] <BeLinux> for me its ok..
[01:17] <Hobbsee> TheGateKeeper: kde doesnt really get much faster.
[01:18] <BeLinux> but so silly that Kontact in kubuntu 5.10 has no possibility to import outlook express mails!!
[01:18] <BeLinux> thats why i asked about upgrading to a newer version of kontact (there u can import mails from OE)
[01:18] <php-freak> !codec
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <php-freak> !codecs
[01:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:18] <bobby> Hobbsee: i need a full blown DE on this one since its not my laptop but from a buddy of mine who can barely manage in windows
[01:19] <BeLinux> i am stucked, anyways i will upgrade to 6.06 , hopefully nothign gets broken
[01:19] <Hobbsee> bobby: ah
[01:19] <TheGateKeeper> Hobbsee, well, you want to see speed, install kubuntu & arch linux with a KDE desktop on the same pc, then get your stop watch out :-)
[01:19] <bobby> Hobbsee: on my gentoo desktop i use fluxbox
[01:19] <TheGateKeeper> brb
[01:19] <Hobbsee> TheGateKeeper: ahh, so we should look at nicking patches from arch.  i know we're comparable to suse
[01:20] <Jucato> Hobbsee: we are? :O
[01:20] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yeah...well...they dont have any performance patches in suse that we arent using too now - they all got pushed to upstream kde
[01:21] <Jucato> aaah
[01:21] <g-henna> guys, i'm getting sick... already pdf2ps creates these white boxes, so i can see them with gv in theps file...
[01:22] <g-henna> now what's that? internally, pdfs are converted to ps before printing, right?
[01:23] <BeLinux> who knows a very good Text-Only brower for Kubuntu
[01:24] <BeLinux> except Lynx
[01:24] <deathplanter> links? ;P
[01:24] <deathplanter> or elinks!
[01:24] <deathplanter> afk
[01:24] <Jucato> w3m? elinks? links2?
[01:25] <Hobbsee> elinks is good
[01:25] <Hobbsee> w3m confuses me :(
[01:25] <dropsl> hi
[01:25] <BeLinux> ok
[01:25] <Hobbsee> links2 is also good
[01:25] <bobby> on gentoo i could get kde and friends in my own language how can i do that on kubuntu?
[01:26] <dropsl> does anyone know a program which can merge several mpeg1 files?
[01:26] <g-henna> sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-de/en/jp...
[01:26] <malik_> how do i access kwallet thingy?
[01:26] <malik_> the thing which stores all the passwords
[01:26] <php-freak> !codecs
[01:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:27] <cntb> today I want to install  scanner SANE lan sharing
[01:27] <Hobbsee> malik_: run kwalletmanager
[01:28] <cntb> should not be complicated
[01:28] <BeLinux> see you later, thanks for your help
[01:29] <cntb> for scanner sharing will follow "How to share a scanner on your network"
[01:29] <cntb> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/10/13/1751234
[01:31] <php-freak> reading makes you smart :)
[01:36] <php-freak> !sound
[01:36] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:37] <php-freak> Hmm someone recommended me to something, I'm having problems with my sound, playing videos through firefox
[01:38] <bobby> php-freak: what kind of video?
[01:38] <php-freak> well i want all of them to work, but hold on il check
[01:38] <php-freak> its not flash
[01:38] <php-freak> just regular video
[01:39] <php-freak> http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=matt+cutts&btnG=Google+Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv for example go there, none of them videos have sound when I play them
[01:39] <bobby> and what are you using to play the vids?
[01:39] <TheGateKeeper> Hobbsee, not a question of nicking patches, but what would be good is if (k)ubuntu was better optimised for various platforms, arch is quick because it is optimsed for i686
[01:40] <bobby> erm that is flash php-freak
[01:40] <php-freak> firefox
[01:40] <Hobbsee> TheGateKeeper: there's a long thread on the ubuntu-devel mailing list about whether the i686 / i386 really makes much difference.  the answer was "not enough of a difference" - ie, no percievable difference for the user
[01:40] <bobby> plays the video trough flash
[01:40] <php-freak> okay, I just installed flash
[01:41] <php-freak> maybe i need to restart my system first.
[01:41] <eric__> ih
[01:41] <php-freak> !codecs
[01:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:41] <eric__> hi*
[01:42] <nagyv> hello! I am just going to install kubuntu dapper to my friend from a live cd, but he already has a home partition. Is the live cd clever enough? Will I have the chance to select partitioning, or should I use the alternate install cd?
[01:42] <php-freak> !multiverse
[01:42] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:42] <bobby> php-freak: in linux that isnt nesisary normaly and kubuntu has flash installed by default
[01:43] <php-freak> well I'm not getting sound from it
[01:43] <php-freak> all my other sounds works fine
[01:43] <crimsun> bobby: err, by default? Are you sure?
[01:43] <jerp> nagy, that live cd is not what you want use the alternate
[01:43] <jerp> alternate will let you select the partitions
[01:43] <crimsun> (since when were multiverse packages seeded in -desktop?)
[01:43] <TheGateKeeper> Hobbsee, I put arch on a P3 & it was noticable quicker, in fact the time to boot up & the time for kubuntu to boot up on a MUCH faster machine (Athlon XP2200) wasn't much in it, trust me (k)ubuntu is SLOW
[01:44] <hume> hi... i have problems with knetworkmanager. Every time I boot and am to log into my encrypted network, I first have to type in the wallet password, and then the WEP key - that seem not to be stored in wallet. Anyone can help me out?
[01:44] <bobby> crimsun: i have just installed ubuntu and i could play that video so im sure
[01:44] <php-freak> bobby: it said something about to make sure multiverse pakcages are installed, so im installing them
[01:44] <bobby> kubuntu*
[01:44] <crimsun> bobby: you didn't use easyubuntu or automatix or something?
[01:44] <bobby> ok
[01:45] <crimsun> bobby: because I'm the flashplugin-nonfree maintainer, and I -know- it's not installed by default.
[01:45] <bobby> dont even know what those things are
[01:45] <Hobbsee> TheGateKeeper: fair enough.
[01:45] <Jucato> it's not installed by default. but in Edgy, there's a small script that asks you if you want to install Flash when you first encounter Flash content using Konqueor
[01:45] <bobby> crimsun: all i did was trow in the kubuntu 6.1 cd and it works out of the box
[01:45] <drkm> has anyone experienced problems with downloading from rapidshare with KGet?
[01:46] <Jucato> Konqueror*
[01:46] <crimsun> TheGateKeeper: you'll find the metric that Ben used; feel free to refute them, though I'll caution you that optimising for i686 is a lost cause.
[01:46] <nagyv> and which kubuntu would you recommend to a non-power user? (dapper or edgy? I use edgy, but I was upgrading, and I can imagine, that a new install is much better)
[01:46] <bobby> havent seen that one script
[01:47] <hume> anyone can help me with kwallet? I have to type in my WEP network key every time even though it is saved in kwallet....
[01:47] <Jucato> bobby: the scripts pops up a dialog box
[01:47] <Jucato> er.. the script... it's not something you have to run manually
[01:48] <nagyv> sorry, was anybody answering me? (my konversation freezed :( )
[01:48] <TheGateKeeper> crimsun, all I know is that (k)ubuntu is slow in comaprison to some other distro's like arch, I don't precisely know what they are doing to get their speed, but (k)ubuntu devs could learn something from it
[01:48] <php-freak> okay I got it working
[01:49] <php-freak> alsa enabler
[01:49] <jerp> nagy, use the latest and greatest if your system is current
[01:50] <php-freak> don't look like his mouth is moving with the sound in my video
[01:50] <bobby> Jucato: i understand that and havent seen it
[01:50] <TheGateKeeper> I have personal experience so trying to persuade me otherwise is definately a LOST cause
[01:51] <andreasw> hi
[01:54] <TheGateKeeper> !fstab > TheGateKeeper
[01:55] <bobby> php-freak: sound on kubuntu is a bit tricky i guess still cant play media streams in amarox for some reason
[01:56] <jerp> nagy, use the latest and greatest if your system is current, but remember Dapper has LTS status
[02:00] <drkm> does anyone know how to get KGet to work with rapidshare.. it loads the download but only downloads the HTML file not the actual file it should be getting ?
[02:03] <Hobbsee> drkm: you tend to need to look for a "direct download" link, and feed it that
[02:03] <Hobbsee> drkm: asking the same question in 2 places is kinda annoying too, btw
[02:03] <drkm> Hobb: thats what I'm doing.. I can't see why it would be downloading the HTML still
[02:05] <drkm> ?
[02:10] <sivaji> ple some one help me
[02:10] <plbgnr> pls everyone... I have this http://paste.uni.cc/12506 tv tuner and want to use it ;)  which module should I use to achieve that?
[02:13] <sivaji> can u  help me
[02:14] <tsdgeos> sivaji: don't ask to ask, just ask
[02:14] <sivaji> i dont know i to run a c program
[02:15] <sivaji> i dont know how to run a c program
[02:16] <andreasw> sivaji: chmod +x foo.c
[02:16] <andreasw> a.out I mean ^^
[02:16] <andreasw> than ./a.out
[02:16] <andreasw> Have you already compiled the program sivaji?
[02:17] <sivaji> yes i got that a.out executablefile where i can see my out put
[02:17] <sivaji> yes
[02:17] <andreasw> ok than ./a.out should run the program
[02:18] <sivaji> how to run that when i tried to run in consol it disappears from directory
[02:18] <ahead>
[02:19] <sivaji> i got *. o file also
[02:19] <Lynoure> !ch
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <Lynoure> !cn
[02:19] <andreasw> sivaji: is this your own C program or did you download it from someone?
[02:19] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:20] <sivaji> it my own hello world program
[02:20] <ahead>
[02:20] <ahead> thank you very much
[02:20] <andreasw> well did you try running ./a.out ?
[02:20] <Lynoure> ahead: feel free to ask questions in English here, too :)
[02:21] <sivaji> consol says there is no such directory /a.out but i could see that in same directory
[02:23] <tsdgeos> sivaji: ./ the dot is important
[02:25] <ahead> i want to ask a question in english ,but .......
[02:27] <hume> i have a i have problems playing dvds - do I have to manually install libdvdcss in some way to get a sharp picture?
[02:28] <TheGateKeeper> hume, I thiught you needed libdvdcss to get dvd playback, in any event I would recommend installling it
[02:29] <TheGateKeeper> intsalling*
[02:29] <TheGateKeeper> crap I can't type
[02:30] <hume> TheGateKeeper, ok, i installed the package libdvdcss through apt-get, but isn't there a script I have to run manually after that, somewhere?
[02:30] <TheGateKeeper> hume, not that I am aware of
[02:30] <umalone> Can someone tell me how to make an external ntfs usb drive writable? It's read-only as it is now.
[02:30] <hume> ok.. testing again
[02:31] <umalone> I was told that I need to install ntfs-3g package
[02:32] <umalone> but what to do after that is installed?
[02:32] <hume> TheGateKeeper, no better image, I'm afraid, unsharp and "shadowy" image... any ideas+
[02:32] <hume> ?
[02:33] <TheGateKeeper> repo for ntfs-3g --> deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ dapper main
[02:33] <umalone> I've just installed the ntfs-3g package here...
[02:33] <umalone> I just don't know what to do next.
[02:34] <TheGateKeeper> hume, never really had a problem so sorry, no, other might however
[02:34] <umalone> chmod doesn't seem to work
[02:34] <hume> anyone got ideas on how to solve bad images when playing dvds?
[02:35] <TheGateKeeper> umalone, not used the package myself, just know of it's existance
[02:35] <umalone> alright. I'll hunt for more info
[02:35] <umalone> Thanks anyway.
[02:47] <cntb> for scanner sharing will follow "How to share a scanner on your network" http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/10/13/1751234
[02:47] <cntb> for scanner sharing will follow "How to share a scanner on your network" http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/10/13/1751234
[02:47] <cntb> sorry for repeating
[02:48] <cntb> also found and will try sanetwain bridge
[02:48] <cntb> over the networking windows scanning from scanner connected to linux
[02:49] <cntb> http://sanetwain.ozuzo.net/
[02:51] <sivaji> ivaji> i yet to learn c program
[02:51] <sivaji> [Sat Dec 30 2006]  [19:12:47]  <sivaji> u
[02:51] <sivaji> [Sat Dec 30 2006]  [19:12:51]  <andreasw> for GUIs it isn't used very often
[02:51] <sivaji> [Sat Dec 30 2006]  [19:13:12]  <andreasw> but in embedded systems for example in cars, trains and so on
[02:51] <sivaji> [Sat Dec 30 2006]  [19:13:17]  <andreasw> it is used very often
[02:51] <sivaji> [Sat Dec 30 2006]  [19:13:33]  <andreasw> because it is not only fast but also produces very small programs
[02:51] <sivaji> [Sat Dec 30 2006]  [19:13:56]  <andreasw> In some environments space is very important.
[02:51] <sivaji> [Sat Dec 30 2006]  [19:14:10]  <sivaji> what is GNU i come across this very often but i dont know
[02:52] <aurka> Hello everybody, how can I find out whether I have CONFIG_USB_NET_CDCETHER compiled as a module or into kernel (in a generic distro kernel, not compiled by me)...?
[02:53] <sivaji> andreaws
[02:53] <sivaji> andreaws
[02:53] <sivaji> are u there
[02:54] <sivaji> NickServ- The nickname [sivaji]  is already registered but cannt communicate with others ple some one help me
[02:55] <sivaji> NickServ- The nickname [sivaji]  is already registered but cannt communicate with others ple some one help me
[02:56] <gnomefreak> sivaji: that would mean someone else owns it or you havent identified to nickserv
[02:57] <sivaji> no just before i am chating with   a person by mistake i closed window when i came back i cannt
[02:58] <sonicGB> sivaji: /msg nickserv help
[02:58] <cntb> sivaji: /msg nickserv id p455w0rd
[02:58] <gnomefreak> yes i see your pm but i allow all pms
[02:59] <sivaji>  sivaji: /msg nickserv id p455w0rd i cannot understand say clearly
[03:00] <sivaji> gnomefreak help me to be in touch with others
[03:00] <gnomefreak> sivaji: if someone owns that name you cant
[03:01] <sivaji> no just five minutes back i am chatting with someone with same name
[03:02] <sivaji> now i can i get back
[03:02] <sivaji> gnomefreak help me
[03:03] <gnomefreak> sivaji: since someone else owns the name you CANT have it
[03:03] <gnomefreak> there is nothing i can do about that
[03:03] <gnomefreak> hint register a different name
[03:04] <gnomefreak> sivaji: best place to help you would be #freenode-social
[03:05] <cntb> sivaji: why not have several registered nicks
[03:05] <sivaji> i dont know how to register
[03:06] <gnomefreak> sivaji: /msg nickserv register help
[03:06] <mc__> Hello im using 6.10 on a notebook,and my keyboard doesnt work properly. Keystrokes with ALT dont work.
[03:06] <cntb> gnomefreak: dont they ask you why gnomefreak on kubunut?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> cntb: doesnt matter i have many names
[03:06] <cntb> me too gnomefreak
[03:07] <cntb> sivaji:  soon will have more
[03:07] <sivaji> what ? soon will have more
[03:07] <sivaji> i cant understand
[03:07] <cntb> sivaji:  being osessive about nick can lead you nowhere
[03:08] <cntb> follow me sivaji
[03:08] <sivaji> yes tell me
[03:08] <cntb> first chage nick now
[03:08] <sivaji> how to do that
[03:08] <cntb>  write  /nick newnick
[03:08] <cntb> do it
[03:09] <sivaji>  /nick newnick
[03:09] <cntb> haha
[03:09] <cntb> now your nick is newnick
[03:09] <sivaji> haha
[03:09] <cntb> invent something in place of newnick
[03:09] <sivaji> ok then
[03:09] <gnomefreak> sivaji: no space infront of / and change newnick to a nick you would like
[03:10] <cntb> well first char is /
[03:10] <cntb> watch me changing sivaji
[03:10] <cntb> doing /nick linopil
[03:11] <linopil> gnomefreak is now thunderstruck
[03:11] <gnomefreak> nop eim back :)
[03:11] <linopil> and cntb is linopil sivaji
[03:11] <sivaji> am i writ
[03:11] <sivaji> i am still getting sivaji y ?
[03:11] <linopil> think fast and do carefully sivaji
[03:11] <linopil> haha yes
[03:12] <gnomefreak> sivaji: you cant use the same name you are using now
[03:12] <linopil> simply write command /nick sivaji-ubuntu
[03:12] <gnomefreak> brb going for smoke
[03:12] <linopil> I just invented you a nick
[03:12] <linopil> o/ gnomefreak
[03:13] <sivaji-ubuntu> y
[03:13] <sivaji-ubuntu> yes thank u
[03:14] <sivaji-ubuntu> linopil still cannot chat will oters
[03:14] <sivaji-ubuntu> linopil still cannot chat will others
[03:14] <sivaji-ubuntu> do some thing
[03:14] <linopil> hi
[03:14] <Lynoure> sivaji-ubuntu: you cannot chat with others where?
[03:15] <linopil> good first step
[03:15] <linopil> now sivaji-ubuntu do next step
[03:15] <sivaji-ubuntu> tell me
[03:15] <linopil> which is :
[03:15] <sivaji-ubuntu> which is:
[03:15] <sivaji-ubuntu> are u there
[03:16] <linopil>  -- wait
[03:16] <linopil> again
[03:17] <linopil>  write /msg nickserv register sivajissmartpassword6to8characters
[03:17] <sivaji>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[03:17] <linopil> sivaji: ?
[03:17] <linopil> start the line with /msg
[03:17] <sivaji> just now i tried
[03:17] <linopil> put in "what you exactly tried"
[03:17] <gnomefreak> replace <password> with a password of your choice
[03:18] <linopil> go PM with me to try registered
[03:19] <linopil> [16:19]  <-> sivaji> private
 [16:19]  <-> sivaji> private ??????????/
[03:19] <linopil> msg me /msg linopil something
[03:21] <g-henna> maaan, i love unix :-) "cp -ruv /etc /media/usbdisk" -- ever tried *that* with windows? :-)
[03:21] <gnomefreak> you cant
[03:21] <sivaji> y
[03:22] <gnomefreak> g-henna: windows doesnt have /etc
[03:22] <linopil> did you try to PM sivaji ?
[03:22] <g-henna> and afterwards "dpkg --get-selections > /media/usbdisk/packages" -- and reinstalling becomes your favourite activity *grin*
[03:22] <g-henna> gnomefreak: i know, that's why i said it :-)
[03:22] <sivaji> what pm ?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> linopil: your in for a long day ;)
[03:25] <animimotus> hi
[03:26] <animimotus> I have just installed this theme http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=49721&file1=49721-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Kubuntu+Edgy+UserList for having a user list on logon
[03:26] <chrismir> Hi. I've seen so many howto's for installing beryl I can't figure out which one I should use. I use kubuntu edgy and have nvidia's GeForce 6800 LE. Anyone can point me to the best/most current howto?
[03:27] <animimotus> but the avatar doesn't appear
[03:29] <animimotus> someone have an idea?
[03:29] <linopil> sivaji was not so smart
[03:29] <chrismir> animimotus: Perhaps set the avatars in system-settings?
[03:29] <andreasw> linopil: I think he had a language problem
[03:31] <animimotus> chrismir: in "about me" I have a message something like "You adminator doesn't autorise the image changing"
[03:31] <chrismir> then change to admin mode :)
[03:32] <gaah> I have a problem getting my dual screen setup to work. kdm always starts on my secondary monitor instead of my primary, how do i define which monitor to use for screen0 and screen1 ?
[03:32] <animimotus> chrismir: where, please ?
[03:32] <gaah> from my xorg.log i see it detects DFP-0 and CRT-1 and it assigns CRT-1 as the monitor to use for screen0 and dfp-0 for screen1
[03:32] <gaah> i need to swap those so DFP-0 becomes screen0 ie the primary one
[03:33] <chrismir> animimotus: Well.. system-settings - advanced mode - login manager. then at the bottom there's a button 'administrator mode'
[03:36] <MHK> hello
[03:36] <MHK> i messed my ipw2200 up
[03:37] <chrismir> then fix it
[03:37] <chrismir> ;-)
[03:37] <MHK> my kubuntu 6.10 does not recognize my wlan-adapter anymore. but from the beginning on it actually did. so, how can i undo it?
[03:38] <MHK> is there any package i can install?
[03:38] <linopil> SANE questions
[03:39] <linopil> found a nice article anout Scanner sharing
[03:40] <linopil> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/10/13/1751234
[03:40] <esben> MHK: Does not recognize.... what do you mean exactly?
[03:41] <MHK> esben: well, when i type "ifconfig" it used to return an "eth1" earlier, but now... only "eth0". that's where i'm hanging on now
[03:42] <esben> MHK: Right. Have you tried unloading/reloading the module yet?
[03:42] <MHK> esben: i admit, i did something wrong. i wanted to update ipw2200 from sf.net... but i messed it up
[03:42] <animimotus> chrismir: in "user" I have select "user, administrator" for the image source. But I can't change in "about me"
[03:42] <linopil> I want to discuss scanners
[03:42] <esben> MHK: Oh well, just reinstall the module.  Most likely it is the kernel package but is in nice to know how to do this :)
[03:45] <MHK> esben: well, i get some output...
[03:45] <esben> MHK: Then you should get the full path... most likely you'll get quite a few from different versions
[03:45] <Hobbsee> MHK: got linux-restricted-modules installed?  and updating the module from sf.net sounds like trouble
[03:45] <MHK> Hobbsee jep
[03:45] <esben> MHK: Just pick one that ends with .ko and do sudo dpkg -S (full name)
[03:46] <MHK> esben: yes, generic, i386 in usr/src/linux-headers and some /lib/firmware
[03:46] <quentin> salut a tous
[03:47] <esben> MHK: What does sudo dpkg -S <filename> give you on one of those?  I also selected 'user, administrator' but I _can_ change the image (both login manager as in about me)
[03:49] <MHK> esben: linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic: /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko
[03:49] <chrismir> animimotus: So I'm not sure wat is wrong
[03:49] <MHK> esben: sorry, didn't read =(
[03:50] <esben> MHK: Great :) Then just reinstall that one with "sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic"
[03:50] <esben> MHK: And then modprobe again when you're done
[03:51] <MHK> esben: just that?
[03:51] <esben> Should do it
[03:51] <esben> MHK: No you're not :)
[03:51] <MHK> esben: trying.... brb
[03:52] <esben> kk
[03:52] <chrismir> so many beryl howto's. which one I shou;d use?
[03:52] <MHK> esben: hope that my harddisk won't be touched...got a semester work on it...
[03:53] <esben> MHK: Should be completely harmless
[03:53] <MHK> esben: well, now knetworkmanager shows me that no wlan is avaible in the neighboorhood, but this is completely normal... =D
[03:53] <MHK> esben: thx, it worked!
[03:54] <esben> MHK: Smiles happily :)
[03:55] <MHK> esben: are you a kernel dev?
[03:56] <esben> MHK: No, just a user (I develop software, but in a completely different area)
[03:56] <MHK> esben: what actually did i? i mean, it's good it works again, but i allways want to know what happens behind the scene...
[03:56] <eg_> hey, what do I have to do, to use php4-cgi?
[03:56] <esben> MHK: You had overwritten the .ko file with some bogus version for another kernel... you just refreshed it with the version supplied from Ubuntu
[03:57] <esben> MHK: apt-get is the program Adept uses behind the scene
[03:57] <eg_> i've allready installed it, but how do I activate it?
[03:57] <MHK> esben: i just reinstalled the standard kernel? *cannot belive that it was so simple*
[03:58] <esben> MHK: It was, and yes :)
[03:58] <hume> how can I install a pdf-printer that is accessible from openoffice, so I can print to pdf, not just export (to make use of more options to get what I want on the pdf)
[03:58] <hume> anyone got ideas on this?
[03:58] <MHK> esben: what does: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic ?
[03:59] <esben> MHK: Reinstall the the 2.6.17-10-generic version of the linux kernel
[03:59] <MHK> esben: sorry, this one: sudo dpkg -S  /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko
[03:59] <esben> MHK: Find the pacakge that contain the  /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko file
[03:59] <MHK> esben: i usually use apt-get to install, i know this, was just the wrong copy&paste
[03:59] <esben> MHK: Happens :)
[04:00] <esben> MHK: Poor table, poor head... come on, be good to 'em :) Have a laugh: http://www.jesusandmo.net/2005/12/28/guess/ (stay away if religious)
[04:01] <MHK> esben: ROFL, that one is good! =D (my religion: linux and hacking, the rest is lost time!)
[04:02] <esben> MHK: :D
[04:02] <MHK> esben: thx a lot!
[04:02] <esben> I'd better go do some dish washing, be back later :) And no problem :)
[04:02] <MHK> esben: got to go...
[04:02] <MHK> esben: cya
[04:04] <Ridayah> I'm trying to add the 'view mode' and 'sort' context menus to Konqueror's right-click menu, anyone have an idea on how to do tuat?
[04:05] <Ridayah> do that*
[04:08] <esben> Ridayah: I don't, but that question is answered every week or so on the KDE mailing list, so try google for a solution :)
[04:09] <esben> Ridayah: That sounded a bit harsh :/ No offense meant of course :) Happy new year to all :D
[04:10] <Ridayah> Heh, I've been digging for a week so I must not be looking in the right place!
[04:10] <Ridayah> I see all about the servicemenus and such, which is indeed useful, not quite what I'm looking for. Well guess I can keep looking.
[04:11] <ubuntu> Salut
[04:13] <Captain_Haddock> Hi, I can access my windows box via samba from both Linux machines, but not vice versa. The two Linux machines can't access each other's shares either. What could be the problem?
[04:13] <Captain_Haddock> Firewall turned off.
[04:13] <slow-motion> hallo
[04:13] <Captain_Haddock> H .. e .. l .. l .. o slow-motion
[04:13] <Captain_Haddock> :P
[04:13] <slow-motion> hi Captain_Haddock
[04:14] <Ridayah> esben: I keep googling and keep turning up nothing on how to get them in place, if -you- know where it says it'd be greatly appreciated.
[04:18] <Roadrunner1985> !ntfs-3g
[04:18] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:23] <blubb-kbox> hi, how do i change my charsets?
[04:25] <braddoro> i upgraded to edgy from dapper and someting went wrong when I ran dist-upgrade.    Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
[04:43] <adaran> hello everyone. i have a sis900 network chip, which is correctly detected and the sis900 module loads fine. however, i have no /dev/eth0 - how is that possible?
[04:47] <max_> what do i need to download for mp3 support in k3b?
[04:47] <Mez> ^restricted
[04:48] <Mez> !info libk3bmp3
[04:48] <ubotu> Package libk3bmp3 does not exist in any distro I know
[04:48] <max_> !k3b
[04:48] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[04:48] <Mez> !info libk3bmp30
[04:48] <ubotu> Package libk3bmp30 does not exist in any distro I know
[04:48] <Mez> !info libk3b2-mp3
[04:48] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 100 kB
[04:49] <Jucato> hi Mez! :0
[04:49] <Jucato> :)
[04:50] <Mez> hi Jucato
[04:50] <Jucato> Mez: how's katapult doing? any new features we can look forward too? :)
[04:51] <Mez> Jucato - at the moment - I'm having soooo many difficulties trying to fix a few problems with it
[04:52] <Mez> my home Pc is rebooted about every 10 mins when I'm trying to fix it as it currently randlomly crashes out the whole system
[04:52] <Jucato> ouch?!
[04:52] <Mez> Jucato - indeed
[04:52] <Mez> brb
[04:52] <Jucato> well, good luck
[04:52] <Jucato> Mez: and a Happy New Year!
[04:52] <Mez> back
[04:53] <Jucato> wee that was fast :)
[04:53] <Mez> Jucato - also all the catalogs need re-doing to the new API
[04:53] <Jucato> KDE 4 API?
[04:53] <Mez> Jucato - I was grabbing a coke :D
[04:53] <Mez> Jucato - oh, and that
[04:53] <Jucato> heh :)
[04:53] <Mez> no - the new Katapult API ... multithreading and multi actions, and multi results
[04:53] <Jucato> ooh nice
[04:54] <root______> I installed a program called as 3dchess, but I can't figure out how to run it
[04:54] <Mez> luckily atm we have backwards compatibility for old stuff :D
[04:54] <Mez> !info 3dchess
[04:54] <ubotu> 3dchess: 3D chess for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-12 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 132 kB
[04:54] <Jucato> root______: (I hope you're not running as root) the executable is in /usr/bin/games, afaik
[04:54] <Jucato> er.. /usr/games, I mean
[04:54] <Roadrunner1985> !nvidia
[04:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:55] <Jucato> root______: it doesn't get added to the K Menu
[04:55] <root______> hmm
[04:56] <braddoro> !dhclient
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhclient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <Jucato> root______: afaik,you just have to type in the name of the executable (3dchess, iirc) in Konsole or in Alt+F2
[04:56] <braddoro> !eth0
[04:56] <root______> jucato: I tried that without success
[04:56] <bytedevil> hello
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eth0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <Jucato> Mez: btw, have you seen Launchy, a launcher for Windows? http://www.launchy.net/#introduction
[04:56] <bytedevil> hola
[04:57] <bytedevil> hay algun espaol?
[04:57] <Jucato> !es | bytedevil
[04:57] <ubotu> bytedevil: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:57] <Jucato> root______: have you checked in /usr/games?
[04:57] <root______> will do
[04:57] <Ridayah> Okay; I'm going to ask again.
[04:58] <Ridayah> How do you make changes to the Konqueror right click menu that ARE NOT service menus? Things like 'sort' and 'view mode'
[04:58] <Jucato> Mez: it's open source, too. the difference is that it shows possible hits/matches to what you type. just checking if you saw that already :)
[04:58] <braddoro> How do I go about getting networking on edgy, when it seems not there
[04:58] <Jucato> Ridayah: I'm afraid it's in the source code, but I'm not entirely sure.
[04:59] <Mez> Jucato - we have seen launchy yes ... and quicksilver and all the other alternatices ... :D
[04:59] <Ridayah> If I have to go fudge the source code so be it
[04:59] <Jucato> Mez: of course, you would have. silly me... :)
[05:00] <XVampireX> Hu
[05:00] <XVampireX> Hi
[05:00] <XVampireX> How do I boot the livecd into a different language?
[05:01] <root______> isn't there a program in kubuntu that finds installed programs and places the launchers in the k-menu?
[05:01] <tsdgeos> kbuildsycoca?
[05:01] <Mez> root______ - hit alt+space :D
[05:01] <tsdgeos> root______: that should be done automatically
[05:01] <Jucato> root______: not if they're not meant to... some apps really don't
[05:01] <Mez> oh
[05:01] <tsdgeos> ah
[05:01] <Mez> lol
[05:01] <Mez> :D
[05:01] <Jucato> tsdgeos: some apps don't, for some reason. one of them is 3D Chess
[05:01] <tsdgeos> there's kappfinder too
[05:01] <XVampireX> Yeah, some apps don't have .desktop files
[05:02] <XVampireX> You can manually go to edit kmenu and press save
[05:02] <Mez> root______ - it depends on how the programs packaged... you might want to install menu - there should be something in there :D
[05:02] <Jucato> yep
[05:02] <Mez> !menu | root______
[05:02] <ubotu> menu: generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.29 (edgy), package size 379 kB, installed size 1580 kB
[05:02] <XVampireX> Can anyone please help me? :P
[05:02] <XVampireX> How do I boot the livecd into a different language?
[05:02] <root______> cheers, thanks guys
[05:02] <tsdgeos> XVampireX: maybe it's not supported?
[05:03] <XVampireX> I think it is
[05:03] <Mez> XVampireX - YOU CANT REALLY
[05:03] <Mez> XVampireX -  however - see In Gnome, your preferred browser can be changed in System > Preferences > More Preferences > Preferred Applications. If you're not using Gnome, e.g KDE or some other desktop environment, you're fresh out of luck! Any patches to automatically support opening a URL in KDE's preferred browser would be happily accepted.
[05:03] <Mez> grr
[05:03] <Jucato> O.o
[05:03] <Mez> XVampireX see http://lichota.net/~krzysiek/projects/ubuntu-livecd-customization/ for on how to make a custom livecd
[05:04] <soulrider> Mez: i think it is posible to change the default browser
[05:04] <Mez> Jucato - am using windows ... :D (not my choice) and am not used to it not having an auto-buffer feature
[05:04] <XVampireX> Oh, so the livecd is english only?
[05:04] <Jucato> Mez: http://www.thekatapult.org.uk/ is gone?
[05:04] <Jucato> Mez: ooh.... really ouch...
[05:04] <Mez> XVampireX - no - you can change the language once you've logged in :D
[05:04] <soulrider> XVampireX: im not sure, but you can install kubuntu in any language
[05:04] <tsdgeos> Mez: kde has the same dude
[05:04] <XVampireX> I know
[05:05] <Mez> Jucato - yes - the gits cancelled my account for no reason - I'm bitching at support :D
[05:05] <XVampireX> But livecd itself
[05:05] <Mez> Jucato - and it'll be moving to .net
[05:05] <tsdgeos> Mez: kcontrol->kde components->web navigation
[05:05] <XVampireX> Anyway, be back later
[05:05] <XVampireX> I don't need the different language support in livecd, but my friends do
[05:05] <Mez> tsdgeos - yes - but that doesnt change the issue that was the problem earlier
[05:05] <tsdgeos> Mez: ?
[05:05] <Mez> XVampireX - you can change it once it's booted...
[05:06] <malik_> can any one tell me if there is a repository for frostwire?
[05:06] <XVampireX> Mez: How?
[05:06] <malik_> becoz from the website i am unable to download working package.......it keeps getting opened and corrupted by kate
[05:07] <Mez> XVampireX - somewhere in one of the control panels :D
[05:07] <Mez> not too sure - not done it myself
[05:07] <XVampireX> Mez: Alright, thanks
[05:07] <Zarephath> Hrmm.. I just issued a sudo apt-get update and it tells me that /var/lib/apt/ doesn't exist, I have no idea why it would be missing...I haven't deleted it...can I just recreate the directory structure?
[05:08] <soulrider> malik_: frostwire has a deb package
[05:08] <soulrider> in their site
[05:08] <soulrider> but i think theres a small problem with it.
[05:08] <soulrider> Theres a tutorial on http://ubuntuforums.org on how to get frostwire running properly
[05:08] <root______> I'm tryin to install firefox 2.0, is there anyway to do it through a repository or a .deb.. from the firefox website I can only download a tarball
[05:09] <Mez> XvampireX have you spoken to your loco team - they may provide localisedx CDS
[05:09] <soulrider> root______: i think the one in the repos is the 2.0 version
[05:09] <Zarephath> root______: using apt-get? I would assume it has been added to the repository by now
[05:10] <TheGateKeeper> root______, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:10] <root______> I tried doing apt-get and it says I have ot most recent one
[05:10] <malik_> soulrider: yes i tried that but the version at the ubuntu is old plus deb package is bit crooked there..........i was wondering if some1 has it in some repository or can some1 mail me the package?:)
[05:10] <arun_> i want to know whether properitery multimeedia codecs are available in backports only
[05:10] <Jucato> arun_: they're in multiverse
[05:10] <Kr4t05> !restricted > arun_
[05:10] <soulrider> mailk check this out. http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/firefox
[05:10] <soulrider> its the latest version
[05:11] <root______> nick- h
[05:12] <root______> how dows one change the irc nickname
[05:12] <root______> ?
[05:12] <root______> does
[05:12] <slow-motion> bbl
[05:12] <braddoro> ./nick
[05:12] <soulrider> type /nick and then the nickname
[05:12] <malik_> soulrider: i think u meant to send that link to root :)
[05:12] <Jucato> root______: /nick <nick>
[05:12] <Jucato> root______: I hope you're not running as root though...
[05:13] <root______> no I'm not
[05:13] <soulrider> yah malik_ sorry :P
[05:13] <soulrider> root______:
[05:13] <Mez> root______ your ident says you are... trying to attract haxx0rs ?
[05:13] <soulrider> root______:  here you can see the package in the repos is the latest one http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/firefox
[05:13] <root______> my ident?
[05:13] <root______> what's that
[05:14] <root______> I'm fairly confident I'm not running as root
[05:14] <root______> as I understand it, the root is disabled in ubuntu by default no?
[05:14] <Jucato> root______: yes. but did you, by any chance, launch Konversation with "kdesu" or "sudo"?
[05:15] <root______> nope
[05:15] <root______> I launched it through the run command
[05:15] <root______> and just did konversation
[05:15] <root______> not sure why it chose my username as root_________
[05:16] <Jucato> hm..
[05:16] <iftiq> huzzah
[05:16] <iftiq> I'm not longer root
[05:17] <Mez> iftiq is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* root
[05:18] <braddoro> what does it mean when filenames have .dpkg-new appended to the end of them?
[05:19] <root______> hmm this time I made sure not to to do sudo konversation or anything such
[05:19] <root______> and it still calls me root
[05:19] <arun_> i want to use kubuntu for learning java programming ,is it possible
[05:19] <Jucato> weird...
[05:23] <soulrider> arun_: of crouse
[05:23] <soulrider> i program in java
[05:23] <ubuntu> salut tout le monde
[05:23] <soulrider> salut ubuntu
[05:23] <Hassan2a> c'est cool ce chat
[05:23] <arun_> so i can install jdk through apt-get
[05:23] <Hassan2a> c'est pour aider les news linuxiens ??
[05:24] <soulrider> !fr | Hassan2a
[05:24] <ubotu> Hassan2a: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:24] <soulrider> arun_: yes you can
[05:24] <arun_> are u in india
[05:24] <soulrider> you need to enable the multiverse and universe repositories and install sun-java5-jdk i believe
[05:24] <malik_> is it possible to install frostwire from linux tarbal package on kubuntu edgy?
[05:24] <Hassan2a> salut soulrider
[05:24] <soulrider> me? =/
[05:24] <Hassan2a> dites est ce que sur gnome ya client irc comme sur kde ?
[05:25] <soulrider> Hassan2a: i dont speak your language, sorry :P
[05:25] <soulrider> malik_: theres a tutorial on how to install frostwire correcly in the ubuntu forums
[05:25] <soulrider> check it out
[05:26] <malik_> thats didnt do me any good........i think that is outdated
[05:26] <soulrider> have you tried installing the .deb package on frostwires site ?
[05:26] <soulrider> also, do you have java installed ?
[05:26] <arun_> i want to share a cd-writer in windows through samba  is it possible
[05:26] <soulrider> arun_: no idea
[05:26] <malik_> they are saying frostwire version is 4.10.*** but on the website its <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:27] <arun_> k where are u living in this small world
[05:27] <soulrider> malik_: try installing the deb package on forstwires site, if it doesnt run properly follow the instructions on hte forums, but just isnatll the latest package
[05:27] <soulrider> i liv ein Uruguay
[05:27] <soulrider> live in*
[05:28] <Hassan2a> 1*
[05:28] <Hassan2a> ???
[05:28] <Hassan2a> allo
[05:28] <malik_> yes i have java installed and when i try to download ubuntu pack from frostwire website it gets opened up by kate and then it stuffs it n i cant install it any more
[05:28] <Hassan2a> ya quelqu'un ?
[05:28] <Hassan2a> hum
[05:28] <soulrider> Hassan2a: french ?
[05:28] <Hassan2a> yes or english :d
[05:29] <Hassan2a> bon
[05:29] <soulrider> you have a french channel
[05:29] <Hassan2a> soul ?
[05:29] <soulrider> you can only use english on this channel
[05:29] <soulrider> !fr
[05:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:29] <Roadrunner1985> !aMule
[05:29] <soulrider> arun_: austria ?
[05:29] <Hassan2a> ok parlons franais alors :d
[05:30] <Hassan2a> je peux te poser une question N*
[05:30] <soulrider> !fr | Hassan2a
[05:30] <ubotu> Hassan2a: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:30] <Fir3Ligth> please speak english Hassan2a
[05:31] <Fir3Ligth> i'am french but speak english
[05:31] <iftiq> hmm I can't find firefox 2.0
[05:31] <iftiq> in the repos
[05:31] <Mez> !fr Hassan2a
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fr Hassan2a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <Mez> !fr | Hassan2a
[05:31] <ubotu> Hassan2a: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:31] <soulrider> iftiq: its there
[05:32] <soulrider> !firefox | iftiq
[05:32] <ubotu> iftiq: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:32] <Roadrunner1985> !mp3
[05:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:33] <Hassan2a> en fait est ce que sur gnome il ya un truc pour se connecter  l'irc comme sur kde ??
[05:33] <Hassan2a> plus personne ?
[05:38] <arun_> hello
[05:40] <Vincent_k> Hi all, I did the hardwaredetectionthing but it couldnt send the results. Now I have a package that I'm suppose to send as an atachment. What's the adress to where to send it? I missed it when finished the detectionapp.
[05:42] <malik_> oki can some1 tell me whats wrong with frostwire?..........coz i just downloaded tarbal version n extracted it with ark and then from within that extracted folder i am able to run frostwire by double clicking the runfrostwire.sh file but it hasnt installed any thing on the system
[05:45] <nasab> ubuntu.hu
[05:47] <TheGateKeeper> if I want to tinker around with kdevelop then if I install that & build-essentials will that cover most of what I initially need?
[05:49] <malik_> oki can some1 tell me whats wrong with frostwire?..........coz i just downloaded tarbal version n extracted it with ark and then from within that extracted folder i am able to run frostwire by double clicking the runfrostwire.sh file but it hasnt installed any thing on the system
[05:52] <TheGateKeeper> malik_, so just make a menu item that runs runfrostwire.sh & sound like your done
[05:53] <TheGateKeeper> sounds*
[05:53] <thoreauputic> !frostwire
[05:53] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:53] <paulw2>  /quit
[05:55] <burepe> Ktorrent just started crashing on me. Can anyone tell me how I can fix it? This is the out put when I start it in the command line http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39490/ and this is what the crash handler says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39491/ Thank
[05:57] <sungam> burepe, I haven't looked into it in a while, but it used to be a common issue. Try using another torrent client :)
[05:58] <burepe> I really would like to fix it.
[05:58] <soulrider> burepe: i think the best you can do is run utorrent with wine
[05:58] <soulrider> thats what i do
[05:59] <soulrider> either that or azureus
[05:59] <soulrider> i find ktorrent to be a rather abd client
[05:59] <sungam> burepe, don't think there is any easy fix. At least not unless it's been fixed lately :)
[05:59] <esaym> I have never had a problem with ktorrent
[05:59] <Roadrunner1985> !automatiks
[05:59] <esaym> but I mainly use emule
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automatiks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <burepe> I like it. I have been using it for months. I wonder what caused it to start
[05:59] <Roadrunner1985> !automatix
[05:59] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:00] <Roadrunner1985> !install
[06:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:00] <esaym> does any one know how to add a short cut to my hard drive on my panel/task bar?
[06:00] <esaym> i got a short cut on my desktop but i cant get one on the panel
[06:00] <esaym> been trying to figure it out for like a month
[06:01] <Roadrunner1985> esaym i know it. but my english is to bad to explain this.
[06:01] <sungam> !spam | roadrunner
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <Roadrunner1985> sungam: haha
[06:02] <esaym> I live in texas. I am good at figure out other languages ;)
[06:02] <sungam> Roadrunner1985,  :)
[06:02] <esaym> It can't be that hard?
[06:02] <Roadrunner1985> esaym: im german xD
[06:02] <esaym> so am I
[06:02] <esaym> I just don't speak it
[06:03] <esaym> Come on Roadrunner1985
[06:03] <esaym> :(
[06:04] <esaym> or anyone else...
[06:04] <sungam> esaym, is the konqueror button on your panel?
[06:05] <esaym> yea
[06:05] <esaym>  just want a shortcut button to /dev/hda5
[06:05] <esaym> on my panel
[06:05] <Roadrunner1985> esaym: drag and drop your shortcut to the bar. ;)
[06:05] <esaym> I think i tried that, let me try again
[06:06] <Roadrunner1985> esaym: so i tryed it out before a few seconds. runs perfectly
[06:06] <esaym> It adds it to the panel but when I click I get
[06:06] <esaym> It adds it to the panel but when I click I get
[06:06] <esaym> crap
[06:06] <esaym> Service '/home/laptop/.kde/share/apps/kicker/Hard Disc Device-3.desktop' is malformatted.
[06:07] <esaym> thats what I get when I click it on the panel
[06:07] <Roadrunner1985> esaym: where is it mounted?
[06:08] <esaym> on root
[06:08] <Roadrunner1985>  on /root/ ?
[06:08] <esaym> yea
[06:09] <Roadrunner1985> hmm. than drag and drop the folder (mount) to the bar.
[06:09] <esaym> what do you mean by folder?
[06:09] <evan_> hello guys... konquerer is giving me this error
[06:09] <evan_> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[06:09] <evan_>  klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
[06:09] <Roadrunner1985> esaym: i mean that you drag&drop /root/ to the bar.
[06:10] <Roadrunner1985> oh damn. my english >.<
[06:10] <evan_> any ideas? plaz msg me.. tnx
[06:11] <esaym> dragging a folder works
[06:11] <esaym> ok I got it.  I dragged my /home folder onto the bar then renamed it to /root/
[06:11] <esaym> THANKS