[03:26] <mjc> ldiamond: hmm. maybe try a regular kernel? from kernel.org, 2.6.29-rc3 would probably be the best bet
[03:26] <mjc> ldiamond: or alternately alsa drivers by hand
[03:26] <koshar2> mjc only real benifit is being able to move bigger words in singe executions
[03:26] <Sp0tKubuntu> ibeekman: You are using a proxy/gateway, maybe thats why
[03:26] <sholsinger> ldiamond: temps
[03:26] <j-b-r> My gameport no work. People can see this even?
[03:26] <QWonder> apparently I'm a retard because I can't figure out the sshfs syntax even when staring at the man page but no one here can help me either
[03:26] <micah_> whats a good server to chat on here im new so i dont no what one to go to
[03:26] <ibeekman> yeah must be
[03:26] <koshar2> mjc oh and the obvious fact that there is more mapable ram
[03:27] <judgen> sholsinger: the Azalia does not happen to be a alc888 or a alc882?
[03:27] <mjc> koshar2: dude no, there are 16 GP registers in x86-64 and 8 in x86-32
[03:27] <ibeekman> so should I ask my network config question on ubuntu-ops?
[03:27] <sholsinger> judgen: it is a 889
[03:27] <obtel> Gentlemen is there a "Ubuntu SERVER for Dummies" Book? just got a copy and I am at a complete loss in learning anything.
[03:27] <mjc> koshar2: they are also wider
[03:27] <_VIM_> ibeekman: no
[03:27] <QWonder> ibeekman, you can ask in #networking
[03:27] <mjc> koshar2: there are also twice as many SSE regs
[03:27] <ldiamond> sholsinger, I'm not sure, sec
[03:27] <sholsinger> judgen: same family of chips, though.
[03:27] <mjc> koshar2: doubling the amount of GP regisers is huge
[03:28] <judgen> sholsinger: i had alot of problems with 888 before, and maybe the same applies to 889, but i just used an older kernel wich solved the problem for me.
[03:28] <ldiamond> sholsinger, sudo apt-get install sensor-applet
[03:28] <ldiamond> sholsinger, sudo apt-get install sensors-applet
[03:28] <koshar2> mjc the extra registers will be a product of dual core and hypervisor functions
[03:28] <mjc> koshar2: no, they are general purpose
[03:28] <sholsinger> judgen: yeah, that seems to be the answer. I think a kernel update killed it. 8.04 it worked out of the box.
[03:28] <ibeekman> I think it is (k)buntu related becaus it was working fine until I accidentally installed kwlan with synaptec
[03:28] <skate2> how do you install a .deb?
[03:28] <ldiamond> skate2 dpkg
[03:28] <koshar2> mjc you can still only have one parity flag, one equil to flag ect...
[03:29] <sholsinger> ldiamond: thx
[03:29] <judgen> skate2: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:29] <j-b-r> or just double click
[03:29] <genii> skate2: sudo dpkg -i <debname>
[03:29] <chrometiger> checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
[03:29] <chrometiger> checking target system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
[03:29] <chrometiger> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[03:29] <chrometiger> checking for gcc... gcc
[03:29] <chrometiger> checking for C compiler default output file name...
[03:29] <FloodBot1> chrometiger: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:29] <chrometiger> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:29] <chrometiger> See `config.log' for more details.
[03:29] <Sp0tKubuntu> ibeekman: yeah try that
[03:29] <chrometiger> sorry
[03:30] <slide> So my CD drive won't work when I try to install ubuntu so I installe ubuntu through Wubi which is what I'm using now. I have some space unpartitioned for ubuntu which im wondering if i can use this ubuntu to install onto?
[03:30] <lstarnes> !compile | chrometiger
[03:30] <chrometiger> thats a error i get when installing from source
[03:30] <mjc> koshar2: http://developer.amd.com/SiteCollectionImages/Articles/7662.gif
[03:30] <genii> chrometiger: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:31] <skate2> how do you apt-get install something and automatically install all it's dependencies?
[03:31] <mjc> sholsinger: 17% done, bleh. maybe kernel.org has a mirror of this. let me check
[03:31] <sholsinger> mjc: wow, thats taking forever.
[03:31] <micah_> hay were should i go some small linux games??
[03:31] <judgen> skate2: sudo aptitude install *whatever you want*
[03:31] <koshar2> mjc ahh i see the r8 to r 16 registers,
[03:32] <mjc> koshar2: yes, that alone is a HUGE benefit for all aps
[03:32] <mjc> *apps
[03:32] <mjc> sholsinger: yeah about 300MB
[03:32] <mjc> sholsinger: found a kernel.org copy of it though
[03:32] <KterinK> !dhcp
[03:33] <mjc> sholsinger: much btter, 2.1MB/sec
[03:33] <koshar2> mjc i still think data troughput on the 64 bit address bus is the greatest advance with 64bit.
[03:33] <KterinK> how can i see if i have dhcp server installed?
[03:33] <Pyles17> ok a tutorial for writing a script to rotate the cursor on a tablet says "xsetWacom set stylus Rotate CW". how do i tell it to rotate 180 degrees?
[03:33] <sholsinger> mjc: Thats more like it.
[03:33] <mjc> koshar2: it is, but it doesn't make as big of a difference for most uses
[03:33] <skate2> what's the difference between DHCP and NAT?
[03:33] <sholsinger> mjc: Its in C?
[03:34] <mjc> sholsinger: hm?
[03:34] <mjc> sholsinger: the linux kernel is, yes
[03:34] <ddrane> where's the start button?
[03:34] <sholsinger> mjc: and alsa is part of that?
[03:34] <mjc> sholsinger: yes
[03:34] <micah_> can i install gnome on xubuntu???
[03:34] <Sylphid> skate2, DHCP  is the process of sending and recieving ip information between a client and a server
[03:34] <_VIM_> yes
[03:34] <Pyles17> ddrane: lol it's the "applications" button on the top
[03:35] <ddrane> it was a joke, but yea...
[03:35] <_VIM_> micah_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <mjc> sholsinger: git is version control, includes every change ever made to the source; I am checking out a copy of one of the alsa developers' branches
[03:35] <Pyles17> ddrane: ok good
[03:35] <Sylphid> skate2, NAT is the process of translating internal ip's to a single external ip
[03:35] <micah_> cool it should not slow my system down right??
[03:35] <sholsinger> mjc: i'm familiar with SVN but i've never used git.
[03:35] <_VIM_> micah_: that depends on your system
[03:35] <Pyles17> does anyone know how to alter "xsetWacom set stylus Rotate CW" so it rotates 180 degrees?
[03:36] <micah_> i only have 191 ram
[03:36] <sholsinger> mjc: I've heard a lot about git by watching /. ;)
[03:36] <koshar2> micah_ didnt you say you had 500meg?
[03:36] <mjc> sholsinger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 linus' talk on git
[03:36] <micah_> what??
[03:36] <_VIM_> micah_: besides, these days Xubuntu is just about as heavy as gnome
[03:36] <illbeatu> hrm. i have to rummage through this open source software directory to find some .sh file located in some undocumented location so i can sh it to install the thing. can open source be any more fun?
[03:36] <koshar2> micah_ ram earler
[03:36] <sholsinger> mjc: I'll watch that at a later time, I'm sure that it'll be better with audio. :)
[03:36] <mjc> sholsinger: also see randal's talk on git after
[03:36] <mjc> sholsinger: yes heh
[03:37] <mjc> sholsinger: 56%
[03:37] <koshar2> _VIM_ flux is a LOT lighter
[03:37] <_VIM_> oh yeah
[03:37] <micah_> well im haveing problems whith installing themes for xcfe
[03:37] <_VIM_> cant argue that
[03:38] <sholsinger> mjc: You see this "turn down the lights" button in YouTube yet?
[03:38] <Sp0tKubuntu> Sysinfo for 'SPOTLAP': Linux 2.6.27-11-generic running KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3), CPU<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at 800 MHz (3990 bogomips), HD: 3/105GB, RAM: 785/2015MB, 124 proc's, 3.45h up
[03:38] <Pyles17> sholsinger: hulu started that. it's awesome
[03:38] <Sp0tKubuntu> Whops, wrong window, sorry!!
[03:38] <mjc> sholsinger: no heh
[03:38] <_VIM_> koshar2: i have just about all the light weight window managers installed :)   well the popular ones anyways
[03:38] <sholsinger> mjc: Pyles17: I can't believe nobody else thought of that before. Although I've seen flash come up in lightbox before.
[03:38] <koshar2>  _VIM_ a hobbie of yours?
[03:39] <mjc> ldiamond, sholsinger you might also want to ask for more help in #alsa
[03:39] <sholsinger> mjc: word. Will do.
[03:39] <_VIM_> kinda heh or just curious koshar2 :)
[03:39] <_VIM_> I went back to gnome though...
[03:39] <mjc> sholsinger: your device id is not in the current kernel, 2.6.29-rc3 even
[03:39] <koshar2> _VIM_: pure x is nice to for apps like xbmc
[03:40] <sholsinger> mjc: ruh roh, raggy.</scooby-doo>
[03:40] <vince_> Can I just take a moment to vent?  I love ubuntu don't get me wrong but sometimes I feel like I spend more time MAKING it work than doing anything usefull with it
[03:40] <mjc> and ldiamond I'm not sure exactly how to toggle it if alsa-info picks it up
[03:40] <mjc> sholsinger: lol
[03:40] <illbeatu> hurray! i get to watch things scroll up the screen for 2 hours while my open source software installs yipee
[03:40] <slide> Is there anyway to instal ubuntu onto a new partition from inside ubuntu?
[03:40] <vince_> Everytime I fix one issue that fix seems to break something else
[03:40] <j-b-r> Gameport, please!
[03:40] <slide> not using a CD
[03:40] <sholsinger> mjc: sorry, the kids watched some today and It just popped into my head.
[03:40] <koshar2> vince_ like my old datsun
[03:41] <_VIM_> koshar2: well, i found myself using so many gnome appz, that I figured it' be best to just stick with gnome, besides my computer isnt that bad Dell 2400 2.4 ghz... Nvidia 5200, 2 gigs RAM  i really don't "NEED" a light weight wm...
[03:41] <vince_> koshar2 : Seriously LOL.  First it was eclipse. A kind fellow helped me get that fixed earlier
[03:42] <whombat> hi all
[03:42] <vince_> I've also been having issues with my sound comming out of the wrong cards.  They all worked but were backwards.. I finaly just gave up and switched my out puts and it worked fine
[03:42] <whombat> when i copy a .desktop file to /usr/share/applications it is not listed in the gnome menu
[03:42] <whombat> any ideas?
[03:42] <whombat> is there an command to update the menu?
[03:42] <vince_> But THEN it decided to switch the outputs for my sound agian and now I have no sound in firefox when im viewing flash vidio's and it was working fine earlier today
[03:42] <koshar2> vince_ it genrally comes down to the apps and hardware you use, the further you stray from the centre the more treaking required
[03:43] <wolter> its urgent, i need to know if firefox keeps temporary files of its downloads...
[03:43] <_VIM_> yes it does
[03:43] <vince_> koshar2 : I have a prebuilt POS eMachine from wallmart.  There isn't ANYTHING exotic in this thing other than a second soundcard
[03:43] <_VIM_> i know for a fact Firefox keeps temp files of youtube videos
[03:43] <koshar2> _VIM_ hardware is cheap these days, i use flux more for appliances
[03:44] <vince_> And every time I get it working right, It just inexplicably breaks agian for no apparent reason
[03:44] <judgen> whombat: the .desktop files are just short text files. you can edit them to make sure your icons show up.
[03:44] <meoblast001> what do i do if PCSX runs too fast
[03:44] <koshar2> vince_ you should prolly blacklist the modules of the sound card you arnt using
[03:45] <vince_> koshar2 : Thats the problem.  I use both
[03:45] <_VIM_> koshar2: yeah flux is good for multiple VM's ... I use flux for my 2nd X server that I have on TTY 3 ...
[03:45] <vince_> or I would just disable the onboard one in BIOS and be done with it
[03:45] <koshar2> vince_ why do you use both?
[03:45] <vince_> One soundcard runs my speakers another run's my headset.
[03:46] <durka> Could not initialize the package information
[03:46] <durka> A unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.
[03:46] <durka> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[03:46] <durka> 'E:Type '“deb' is not known on line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list, E:The list of sources could not be read.'
[03:46] <FloodBot1> durka: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:46] <vince_> It was working FINE earlier today
[03:46] <whombat> judgen, it is already set up right
[03:47] <judgen> wonder whats new in xfree 4.8
[03:47] <vince_> How do I find out how firefox is piping sound out because I can find no settings to control it
[03:47] <whombat> judgen, i thnk the menu doesnt recognize it on the fly
[03:48] <judgen> whombat: you can just right click the meny button and edit the menus otherwise
[03:48] <_VIM_> durka: looks like you got a typo on '"deb' take out that quote mark on your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:48] <whombat> judgen, i have written a bashscript that copys the prepared .desktop file to /usr/share/applications
[03:49] <whombat> judgen, wanna do it commandline
[03:49] <sholsinger> mjc: how's it coming?
[03:50] <sholsinger> mjc: I got no response in #alsa.
[03:50] <skate2> what do i do about this when i try to run kregexpeditor it says: error while loading shared libraries: libkio.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:50] <_VIM_> durka: did you get that?
[03:50] <Baatti> alright now..
[03:50] <Baatti> I'm getting real pissed :(
[03:51] <Baatti> so I just re-installed Ubuntu Intrepid, but I have to fix my Atheros 5007 wlan.... anyway, NONE of the links to madwifi are working....
[03:51] <Baatti> I've tried I swear to god every forum site there is
[03:52] <Baatti> like, 2 days ago this worked, now it won't: wget http://snapshots.madwifi.org/special/madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007.tar.gz
[03:52] <Javier> hello, i've got a question... when i try to send an object via bluetooth a window pops and it says that the backend does'n support it
[03:52] <illbeatu> is it really open source if they require you to pay them for you to learn how to use it?
[03:52] <Javier> what can i do?
[03:53] <kitche> Baatti: probably because snapshots.madwifi.org does not exist
[03:53] <_VIM_> illbeatu: who's making you pay ?
[03:53] <Baatti> kitche yeah, well, where can I get the required madwifi?
[03:54] <zcat[1]> illbeatu: pay to learn what?
[03:54] <illbeatu> i pay with either money or with my life time.
[03:54] <illbeatu> both in prohibitive amounts
[03:54] <rww> Baatti: looks like a problem with Madwifi's servers. You could ask them in #madwifi
[03:54] <illbeatu> in order to use.
[03:54] <rww> !ot | illbeatu
[03:54]  * _VIM_ thinks illbeatu is a bit tipsy
[03:54] <bamhm182> hey
[03:54] <Baatti> ok, thanks
[03:54] <durka> ii installed madwifi yesterday with no problems
[03:55] <bamhm182> how do you edit grub?
[03:55] <rww> bamhm182: GRUB's configuration file is /boot/grub/menu.lst. You can edit that with "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst".
[03:55] <kitche> Baatti: you can't just do sudo apt-get install madwifi-ng?
[03:55] <n8tuserf> illbeatu -> you have been whining for a few now, what is it that you are seeking?
[03:56] <durka> no
[03:56] <durka> i found the instructions on some website for installing madwifi, ill brb, try and find it, what architecture r u on? cause that matters, im on 64
[03:56] <bamhm182> alright, thanks
[03:57] <illbeatu> just rambling/feeling depressed at having to use open source
[03:57] <O__o> how to change the permission on the soft link?
[03:57] <n8tuserf> illbeatu -> this is not the place to do that, kindly visit #ubuntu-off-topic
[03:57] <bamhm182> if I've got Windows 7 installed to the 2nd partition on hard drive 0, how do I add it?
[03:57] <kitche> O__o: you don't you change the permission on the thing your soft linked to
[03:58] <n8tuserf> illbeatu -> btw, even it it was propietary you also have to pay, higher too, try oracle stuff
[03:58] <O__o> i make a softlink in a guest account, how do i prevent the guest user deleting the soft link?
[03:58] <kitche> O__o: by changing the owner
[03:59] <O__o> ok
[03:59] <O__o> how to do that?
[03:59] <kitche> O__o: man chown
[04:00] <illbeatu> does ubuntu mess with my raw socket programming?
[04:00] <gaintsura> question.. my buddy has a system that is very limited on space, I just ran him through the installation process of some of the apps that I use (that he wanted) and we ran out of space on the main drive. is there a way to tell ubuntu to use the secondary drive as if it were part of / without doing some crazy old raid setup. He's running on a p3, 850mhz with 2 ide drives.
[04:00] <spill> anyone famular with firehol?  Looking to allow local network ips to pass through.
[04:00] <illbeatu> i was sending out things using tcphdr c++ library but it appears my tcp header is 0ed out even though i send all binary 1's through the socket
[04:00] <urugTON> join #ubuntu-us-az
[04:01] <kitche> gaintsura: yes just mount the second driver as /usr/bin if you wish of course you would need to do some copying first really
[04:01] <prince_jammys> O__o: you can't
[04:01] <n8tuserf> illbeatu -> requires root priviledges to access raw sockets
[04:01] <illbeatu> yes i know
[04:01] <illbeatu> i am running my c++ file with sudo etc.
[04:01] <illbeatu> and looking at the outbound packet in wireshark/ethereal
[04:01] <spill> anyone famular with firehol?  Looking to allow local network ips to pass through.
[04:01] <sholsinger> mjc: how goes it?
[04:01] <illbeatu> is there any way to force ubuntu to stop messing with my outbound packets?
[04:02] <kitche> illbeatu: ubuntu does not mess with your outbound packets
[04:02] <jaylc185> can someone give me a terminal command that will get me a C development interface???
[04:02] <illbeatu> are you sure about that kitche
[04:03] <n8tuserf> spill -> NAT'ing you mean?
[04:03] <n8tuserf> illbeatu -> what makes you believe ubuntu does ?
[04:03] <spill> n8tuserf: well, I'm using dansguardian with firehol and tiny proxy, but now I can't access any of my windows shares with the firewall on.
[04:04] <spill> n8tuserf: I want to be able to give open access to my networked machines.
[04:04] <illbeatu> i send out a packet with all 1's. i see a packet in wireshark with all 0's
[04:05] <n8tuserf> spill -> am not familiar with firehol, but basically it uses iptables,  can you elaborate on your network layout ? whats connected to what?
[04:05] <drunktard> I have a question, i'm using 8.10 for AMD64 and when using firefox the videos are returned to its start point after like 3 seconds...
[04:05] <drunktard> npviewer.bin is taking a lot, rebooting or killing it won't help either... any ideas?
[04:07] <spill> n8tuserf: I've got 3 wifi access points, one router with dns bringing in the cable connection.  about 12 windows workstations connect to the network.  I have ubuntu on my laptop.  thats what I want to be able to see the windows shares.  It works fine still I start firehole.
[04:07] <spill> n8tuserf: I've got dansguardian filtering the net access using tiny proxy and firehol passing through one port address.
[04:08] <n8tuserf> spill ->  a drawing would give me a better picture
[04:08] <BlindCamel> can some one please read this error log and pm with what im doing wrong im trying to install my nvidia graphics driver http://paste.ubuntu.com/112640/
[04:08] <n8tuserf> spill -> also which of these is the linux and acting as a router?
[04:09] <BlindCamel> please pm me with any help
[04:09] <usser> kitche, gaintsura i'd mount /usr on the second harddrive cause thats really where the bulk of the stuff is
[04:09] <spill> n8tuserf: none, of them.  the only machine running linux is my laptop.  the router is hardware, netgear.
[04:09] <spill> n8tuserf: I just can't access the windows shares from my laptop in ubuntu unless I turn off firehol.
[04:10] <n8tuserf> spill -> then turn it off so you can access
[04:10] <spill> n8tuserf: I need to keep it on because I am using it in conjuction with dansguardian and tinyproxy.
[04:10] <kitche> usser: well first you need to copy the old stuff on /usr over to the new drive
[04:11] <usser> gaintsura, or /home you really have to do some analysis to figure whats taking the most space
[04:11] <spill> n8tuserf: I just need to give a list of ips that have network access to and from my laptop to the windows shares.
[04:11] <usser> gaintsura, oftentimes /home directory is the biggest cause thats where users store their junk :)
[04:11] <usser> kitche, yes
[04:13] <vince_> Guys, I hate to say it.. Im going back to windowsa
[04:13] <usser> vince_, good luck :P
[04:14] <Matt_S> vince_, i went back to windows twice before I finally got fed up
[04:14] <Matt_S> good luck though
[04:14] <vince_> usser: I will, Windows for all of its faults has never had one program just inexplicbly just loose access to the sound system for no apparent reason.
[04:14] <n8tuserf> spill -> am not familiar with firehol, have you done any tutorials on how to use firehol?
[04:14] <killemall> good day
[04:14] <killemall> is there a way to get the 'installed date' of ubuntu, i want to know the date i installed the os
[04:14] <vince_> I have googled my butt off and tried about 20 different things.  This is SO frustrating
[04:14] <sancho21> Where can I get list of nice shell functions. Something like documentation of shell functions. For example: sed, grep and others
[04:14] <Guest92472> what partitions should i make for my ubuntu install? / /home swap?
[04:15] <usser> vince_, sound is a mess on ubuntu, i dont know why they pushing pulseaudio, which is half broken. i really dont know
[04:15] <spill> n8tuserf: I'm trying to make sense of it, I'm a bit of a newb, I was hoping for a quicker help :)
[04:15] <usser> vince_, whats that program?
[04:15] <vince_> Im not even useing Pulse Audio!
[04:15] <spill> n8tuserf: I'll keep plugin away though. :)
[04:15] <vince_> THis thing should be using the ALSA driver or OSS if nothing else!
[04:15] <n8tuserf> spill -> no shortcuts, either know iptables or firehol
[04:15] <neptunepink> Agh, help, I did `rm core *` instead of `rm core*`, what should I do?
[04:15] <usser> vince_, hm, whats the program?
[04:15] <vince_> usser : Firefox.. The flash video just quit playing sound
[04:15] <usser> neptunepink, ctrl+C fast
[04:15] <spill> n8tuserf: roger that.
[04:16] <vince_> Everything else works though for some reason my outputs all switched around at the same time this was happening
[04:16] <neptunepink> usser: Uh, the command took less than a second. :P
[04:16] <usser> vince_, did u install libflashsupport
[04:16] <cakey> THE FINAL COUNTDOWN IS NOW PLAYING IN YOUR HEAD
[04:16] <usser> neptunepink, what directory u ran it in?
[04:16] <rww> !terminal | sancho21
[04:16] <vince_> usser : Likely, I've installed about 10 differnent packages that said would fix this but i'll double check
[04:16] <jedi06> What partitions should i make what type (logical or partial) file format ext2/3 and how much should I give to each I have 250 GB of disk?
[04:16] <bamhm182> hey, I really need to get on Windows tonight, but Grub won't let me edit it correctly
[04:17] <killemall> cakey why would you do that
[04:17] <jedi06> i will be installing ubuntu 64bit how much would root need?
[04:17] <jedi06> how much should i give to home?
[04:17] <usser> jedi06, swap goes first, should be equal to the amount of ram, then / partition 20gb should do, rest is /home
[04:17] <jtaji> jedi06: ext3, logical or primary doesn't matter
[04:17] <usser> jedi06, /home goes in the logical partition
[04:17] <sancho21> rww: What do you mean by terminal? I run the script in terminal but I lack of list of useful commands in the shell
[04:17] <vince_> usser: I don't show libflashsupport in Synaptic.  I show flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound which is installed though
[04:17] <bamhm182> I've got access to the menu.lst, but every time I edit it and reboot, it just automatically boots Ubuntu
[04:17] <PMT> world, i'm trying to convince ldap on ubuntu clients not to default to using CRYPT for password encryption
[04:17] <rww> jedi06: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/switching/installing-partitioning.html
[04:17] <robs227> Hey i am using ubuntu and i can hear the drum beat at the log in but once I sign in I lose all sound. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[04:18] <neptunepink> usser: ~/
[04:18] <realmatt> I am having a problem installing things.  It tells me to run "sudo apt-get -f install" to fix it but it only tells me that it can't authenticate certain packages and won't continue.
[04:18] <usser> vince_, oh yea thats the one.
[04:18] <nickrud> bamhm182, try hitting escape when you see something about grub 1.5 during boot. Should show you a menu
[04:18] <vince_> usser : Yea its in there
[04:18] <rww> sancho21: see the message from ubottu right below "!terminal. Most messages in this channel beginning with !  are bot commands.
[04:18] <bamhm182> thanks nickrud
[04:18] <usser> vince_, you running intrepid?
[04:18] <bamhm182> I'm not sure I edited it correctly though
[04:18] <nickrud> realmatt, put the full output of the apt-get -f install on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:18] <vince_> 8.10 yea
[04:18] <robs227> Hey i am using ubuntu and i can hear the drum beat at the log in but once I sign in I lose all sound. Any suggestions on how to fix this
[04:19] <vince_> usser : 8.10 yea
[04:19] <mjc> sholsinger: checking through the source right now :)
[04:19] <usser> neptunepink, oh no harm done then, it shouldn't touch your directories and couple of files have been deleted, should be nothing serious
[04:19] <jedi06> it says to make your swap double size of your installed memory I will have 4gb of ram
[04:19] <neptunepink> usser: Not *too* bad...
[04:19] <jedi06> I should make it 8gb of swap?
[04:19] <vince_> usser : Sound works everywhere else too.. I can load rythembox or any of my VOIP things.  I can pipe out either soundcard
[04:20] <vince_> and this was working fine earlier today
[04:20] <jtaji> jedi06: no that's poor advice
[04:20] <neptunepink> jedi06: 8GB swap is too big, I think
[04:20] <sholsinger> mjc: cool. :)
[04:20] <usser> vince_, i'm sorry i dont know what to suggest
[04:20] <robs227> Sound work until I log in. What processes occur after log in would interfer with the sound?
[04:20] <jedi06> how big?
[04:20] <neptunepink> $YOUR_MEMORY*1.5
[04:20] <nickrud> bamhm182, put a copy of your menu.lst on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:20] <jedi06> so 6gb of swap?
[04:20] <jtaji> jedi06: you can use much smaller than 4GB really, unless you want to hibernate, then use 4GB
[04:20] <Wunderbar> if you have 4gb of ram gb swap is recommended
[04:20] <usser> robs227, pulseaudio might just crash
[04:21] <robs227> no its running
[04:21] <usser> robs227, try sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart after you login
[04:21] <bamhm182> I added title windows 7 beta (Loader)
[04:21] <bamhm182> root (hd0,1)
[04:21] <bamhm182> savedefault
[04:21] <bamhm182> makeactivechainloader +1
[04:21] <rww> jedi06: if you want to hibernate, you need at least 4GB. If not, anything up to about 4GB should be fine. One of my machines with 4GB of memory doesnt have any and is fine.
[04:21] <FloodBot1> bamhm182: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:21] <bamhm182> whoops
[04:21] <nickrud> bamhm182, probably not overlooked, just no one who thinks they know what you want
[04:21] <Wunderbar> 8gb of swap is recommended - i meant to say
[04:21] <nickrud> !pastebin | bamhm182
[04:21] <usser> robs227, also sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reload
[04:21] <jedi06> well 250gb disk i think i can afford a swap
[04:21] <robs227> i think it is sending sound to my expansion card sound card instead of on board
[04:21] <nickrud> jedi06, laptop or desktop?
[04:21] <jtaji> Wunderbar: lol who recommends it?
[04:21] <jedi06> laptop
[04:21] <realmatt> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112644/
[04:22] <jtaji> 20 years from now people will be saying swap = 2x ram :/
[04:22] <robs227> its like when I log on it sends all sound to the wrong output
[04:22] <blizzard_> hi all i'm ubuntu newbies i want to know hot to add xmms in to menu Sound & Video
[04:22] <vince_> usser: THis is just so D*&* frustrating.  This is a BASIC thing how could they screw this up?  I was having sound issues ealier today though it had to do with not being able to make the right sound go from the right speakers.  I finaly just gave up and switched my outputs.  Now its working on the outputs I wanted originaly and flash audio is broken.  Its like this thing is deliberatly mocking me or something.
[04:22] <nickrud> jedi06, use at least your ram size plus 100mb, so you have more than enough space for hibernate. Otherwise, 512mb is usually enough if you have 2gb mem or more
[04:22] <Wunderbar> it was in the readme or something- swap paritition should be double the ram
[04:22] <mjc> sholsinger: I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for stability, but the topmost "snapshot" link on here should work at least for audio: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-unstable-2.6.git;a=summary
[04:22] <bamhm182> alright, so I entered http://paste.ubuntu.com/112645/ after ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST in the menu.lst, is that right
[04:22] <rww> !xmms | blizzard_
[04:22] <jtaji> Wunderbar: it's outdated advice that's found all over the place unfortunately
[04:23] <rww> !info audacious | blizzard_
[04:23] <blizzard_> yes xmms2
[04:23] <bamhm182> I've got Windows 7 installed on the 2nd partition of hard drive 0
[04:23] <jedi06> ok so when it asks do i put it 5100mb or is a do i need 1024x4+100?
[04:23] <BedPost> Hey, I need some help. Whenever I try to watch a movie, the movie flickers - not the screen, just the movie. Anyone know how to fix it?
[04:23] <usser> vince_, cant really blame ubuntu for flash, its proprietary, and adobe refuses to fix it or opensource it
[04:23] <robs227> i should just get a sound card with linux support instead of dealing with this bullshit
[04:23] <Wunderbar> so what does jtaji recommend?
[04:23] <jtaji> Wunderbar: I think me and someone else gave a recommendation ^
[04:23] <nickrud> realmatt, you're trying to install some stuff from outside the ubuntu repos?
[04:23] <robs227> alright boys going back on winxp late
[04:23] <mjc> sholsinger: if that does work, you should see if ubuntu has any bugs submitted for your motherboard, if not, submit one and mention that it works in e05bc71256ef2fcb219bf074daa5686e6f5a7662 at that url
[04:24] <TheEdge_> BedPost:  what is you graphics card
[04:24] <sancho21> rww: I can't find how to use sed and friends
[04:24] <sancho21> there
[04:24] <mjc> sholsinger: feel free to put me on the list of people to be notified for the bug as well
[04:24] <jedi06> say
[04:24] <RichardWolfVI> Hello all, I can't use my WiFi PCI card when using the server kernel
[04:24] <nickrud> bamhm182, it helps to use a person's nick when you type; it helps keep it from getting lost. It's red in most peoples irc client when the line has their nick in  it. (almost missed you :)
[04:24] <BedPost> TheEdge_: Radeon 4870 (ATI)
[04:24] <earache> Having an issue with Intrepid freezing - periodically freezes up, but I can still move the mouse on screen. Can't ctrl+ alt+del or bkspace to restart - need to hard restart
[04:24] <bamhm182> whoops, sorry
[04:24] <sholsinger> mjc: the last commit from Takashi Iwai?
[04:24] <mjc> sholsinger: if it doesn't work, drop me an email and I will see what I can do.  are you familiar with compiling your own kernel in debian-like distros?
[04:24] <neptunepink> earache: This is because X sucks and should be avoided like the plague
[04:24] <Wunderbar> less than 4gb isn't particularly specific
[04:24] <realmatt> nickrud: I already did that, mplayer and smplayer
[04:24] <mjc> sholsinger: that sha1 string I gave you is the exact commit
[04:24] <Wunderbar> or helpful
[04:24] <sholsinger> mjc: No....   Forgive me if i DO blame ubuntu
[04:25] <TheEdge_> Bedpost: do you run with all on in apperance ??
[04:25] <earache> neptunepink: I'm an Ubuntu noob, any way to fix it?
[04:25] <sancho21> rww: Thanks. I find a good reference url there
[04:25] <jedi06> Do i put in 4100mb of ram or 4x1024+100?
[04:25] <nickrud> bamhm182, a sec
[04:25] <BedPost> TheEdge_: Err... kinda a linux noob here, could you be more specific?
[04:25] <jedi06> 4196 or 4100
[04:25] <mjc> sholsinger: ok, you can apt-get install kernel-package and copy /boot/config-kernelversion to .config in the source directory
[04:25] <vince_> usser : But thanks for trying to help all the same.  I'm thinking I may just wipe this and start over.... I guess I just have to resign to the fact i'm not going to get any work done tonight
[04:26] <mjc> sholsinger: then make-kpkg --initrd --bzimage buildpackage
[04:26] <jtaji> jedi06: I usually do slightly extra then ram, so yeah like 4200
[04:26] <mjc> sholsinger: when its done it will spit .deb packages out in the directory *above* the kernel source
[04:26] <usser> vince_, thats the thing linux devs keep changing with api, and producing nonsense like pulseaudio, should have just stick with alsa
[04:26] <nickrud> realmatt, what's going on is: a managed file can only be owned by one package, in your case it's the license file. Where'd you get the kde stuff from? You should file a bug there
[04:26] <mjc> and you can dpkg -i linux-image-version-foo.deb
[04:26] <jtaji> jedi06: assuming it's for hibernation purposes
[04:26] <vince_> usser : No argument there
[04:26] <jedi06> jtaji i'm asking does it think that a gb is 1000mb or 1024mb
[04:26] <mjc> sholsinger: http://www.howtoforge.com/roll_a_kernel_debian_ubuntu_way has details
[04:26] <earache> running inspiron 6000, ATI X300 graphics card - seems like a common issue, but haven't read of any fixes
[04:27] <sholsinger> Okay, I've got the matching hash id.
[04:27] <usser> vince_, yea no problem good luck, hope you find a fix
[04:27] <jedi06> nevermind ill put in 4196
[04:27] <vince_> usser : is there anyway I can unupgrade something I did ealier?  Now that I think about it I did a system update today and think some new Kernel headers came in.  I wonder if that broke it.
[04:27] <nickrud> bamhm182, that would be correct, if your windows partition is on the second partition of the first drive
[04:27] <jedi06> to be safe
[04:27] <realmatt> nickrud: the kde stuff should have came from the offical repos
[04:27] <bamhm182> alright
[04:27] <sholsinger> mjc: cool. This will be FUN :) but alas it must wait for another day. I've got your email. I'll put you on the bugnotify list.
[04:27] <nickrud> realmatt, ubuntu official repos?
[04:27] <jedi06> or should i make it a multiple of page size
[04:27] <bamhm182> let me give hitting esc another shot
[04:28] <usser> vince_, you can boot into older kernel, press esc when grub appears, when its doing that 3 sec countdown
[04:28] <mjc> sholsinger: excellent.  hope you get it worked out, please keep me updated on progress :)
[04:28] <nickrud> bamhm182, you will see at least two entries, both for ubuntu
[04:28] <jedi06> probably 512mb per page
[04:28] <jtaji> jedi06: that's why I use a bit extra, so instead of 4096 (4GB) I'd go 4200
[04:28] <mjc> sholsinger: you can grab the old kernel's source from 8.04 as well
[04:28] <sholsinger> mjc: do I post the bug in launchpad?
[04:28] <mjc> sholsinger: should work at least boot
[04:28] <jtaji> jedi06: then I double check what was created anyway :p
[04:28] <mjc> sholsinger: honestly I have never needed to :/ sorry that I'm notm uch help there ;)
[04:28] <nickrud> realmatt, you can confirm where it's coming from with sudo apt-cache policy kdelibs5-data
[04:28] <RichardWolfVI> Are you talking about enabling PSE? I'm having trouble with that?
[04:29] <RichardWolfVI> *I'm having trouble with that
[04:29] <vince_> usser : Mines set up already to do that for dual booting.  I don't see the older option
[04:29] <jtaji> jedi06: pages aren't the issue, but cylinder boundaries I believe
[04:29] <jedi06> oh ok
[04:29] <mjc> sholsinger: generally when I discuss bugs it is at the linux kernel mailing list, but tis not for support :P
[04:29] <usser> vince_, what kernel are you running 2.6.27-11?
[04:30] <mjc> sholsinger: alsa project's debugging intel-HDA page is here: http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA
[04:30] <coppro> Firefox uses native form controls; these are ugly. How do I make it use the ones that are a part of it's theme?
[04:30] <mjc> ldiamond: you might want that as well, the HDA-Analyzer tool: http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA
[04:30] <vince_> usser: Yeap AND I see in the history it updated a bunch of Pulse Audio stuff.. I bet thats what killed it
[04:30]  * nickrud thinks those kernel guys should do an hour or two a week of starter's support, just for some humility ;)
[04:31] <vince_> Is there some easy way to roll the system back to this morning? LOL
[04:31] <realmatt> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112646/
[04:31] <maxride> I have kind of an issue....I just installed EEEBuntu, My wifi card is not detected and the NDIS Wrapper wont install (Says wrong machine type)....any ideas?
[04:31] <nickrud> realmatt, jaunty support is in #ubuntu+1 .
[04:31] <Javier> hello i have a question, a can't play dvd's or burn dvds, what can i do?
[04:31] <nickrud> !jaunty | realmatt (and, you've got BreakAge :)
[04:31] <realmatt> nickrud: ah thank you
[04:32] <sholsinger> mjc: theres a bugzilla, standard bug-reporting style is requested. ;) I'm at home there.
[04:32] <bamhm182> nickrud, it showed up this time, but when I clicked on windows 7 it says  something along the lines of Boot Manager missing
[04:32] <mjc> sholsinger: excellent. :)
[04:32] <jedi06> so swap is the first partition i should make
[04:32] <nickrud> bamhm182, an exact error would help; but how windows boots is outside of my skill set
[04:32] <vince_> I guess there isn't
[04:33] <maxride> ...
[04:33] <Javier> hello i have a question, a can't play dvd's or burn dvds, what can i do?
[04:33] <nickrud> maxride, I'd suggest trying in #ubuntu-eeepc , if someone is there
[04:33] <RichardWolfVI> hmm, no help already?
[04:33] <nickrud> maxride, just enough differences that it can matter
[04:34] <bamhm182> alright, I might be able to do my homework from Ubuntu, I'll just do it here and work on getting Windows 7 working later
[04:34] <maxride> nickrud, Thanks...they'd probably know a bit more about Netbook config in there....
[04:34] <nickrud> maxride, if someone is awake :)
[04:34] <bamhm182> thanks for helping though nickrud
[04:34] <nickrud> bamhm182, at least you know grub is going to the right partition
[04:35] <sholsinger> mjc: would this be a device driver bug?
[04:35] <bamhm182> I'm not sure that it is
[04:35] <bamhm182> nickrud, I think that it may just be seeing that there should be something somewhere that's know as Windows 7 beta loader because I put it in frub
[04:35] <bamhm182> *grub
[04:35] <nickrud> bamhm182, well, if you gave the exact error we'd be able to give you more info. Usually you get an error 17 or 15 if for incorrect parittions
[04:36] <nickrud> Javier, could you give more details? Are you sure the dvd is working?
[04:36] <bamhm182> It doesn't give an error, that I saw, but I'll check once more
[04:36] <whabo> help how do i change my screen resolution?
[04:36] <bamhm182> than I'll report back, and than if we can't get it sorted, I'll do my homework on Ubuntu
[04:37] <whabo> it tells me the max is 1024x760 but i have a 19 inch screen... it is only reading the laptop's screen
[04:37] <Javier> nickrud: i can play and burn dvds in windows vista, its the only dvd drive i have installed (it's an LG)
[04:37] <darius_> anyone have a G9 mouse working with 8.10?
[04:37] <darius_> Sorry, I mean all buttons working?
[04:37] <coppro> How do I get the normal Firefox theme for other OSes?
[04:38] <nickrud> Javier, ok, what happens when you insert a cd or dvd and close the door?
[04:38] <rww> darius_: have you tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto ?
[04:38] <nickrud> whabo, what video card do you have
[04:39] <whabo> Help how can i change my resolution even tho it only shows 1024 x 760 ... I HAVe a 19" monitor ... Help anyone? the screen fonts are too big/ and icons too. i just need to change the resolution to 1900 or so .. it is a 19 inch screen. THANK YOU
[04:39] <Level_5> can someone here help me get my broadcom wireless card configured?
[04:39] <nickrud> Javier, soooo many things to consider when thinking about hardware ;)
[04:39] <nickrud> whabo, what video chip does you laptop have?
[04:40] <Cpudan80> whabo: you can use xrandr
[04:40] <Cpudan80> whabo: !xrandr
[04:40] <whabo> it is an old ATI built it .. the video card is properly recognized ....
[04:40] <Cpudan80> oops
[04:40] <Javier> nickrud: the dvd apperas in the desktop
[04:40] <Cpudan80> !xrandr | whabo
[04:40] <whabo> thx
[04:40] <whabo> !xrandr
[04:40] <Cpudan80> whabo: fyi - LVDS is the laptop display, that's not the one you want to mess with ;-)
[04:40] <nickrud> whabo, the chip often has an effect: Like if it was nvidia, I'd just say use nvidia-settings
[04:41] <nickrud> Javier, this is a movie dvd?
[04:41] <Javier> nickrud: when i try to play it whith totem, it says that there was an error
[04:41] <nickrud> Javier, is this a movie dvd?
[04:41] <Javier> nickrud: yes a movie dvd
[04:42] <nickrud> !libdvdcss | Javier (you need to get some extra software to read encrypted (commercial) video dvds)
[04:42] <PMT> god damn it
[04:42] <Javier> nickrud: totem cannot play thes dvd, althought there is a complement installed that can manipulate it
[04:42] <bamhm182> nickrud, it says exactly this "Starting up... | BOOTMGR is missing | Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart"
[04:42] <PMT> my ubuntu LDAP clients keep setting non-MD5 crypt passwords for the LDAP users when I change it
[04:42] <PMT> my non-Ubuntu LDAP clients do not
[04:43] <nickrud> Javier, that's a problem with encryption, most very likely: you need to install the libdvdcss program. https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html#dvdplayback has the details (that factoid is way too general)
[04:43] <racarter> anyone use banshee?
[04:43] <nickrud> racarter, a little, yes
[04:43] <racarter> I'm looking for something to listen to music on linux with, i'm used to itunes
[04:44] <racarter> is there anything that will let me import music on a shared drive
[04:44] <bamhm182> nickrud, did you see my message?
[04:44] <nickrud> bamhm182, that sounds like a windows error message to me. But, I'm no expert on windows
[04:44] <Javier> nickrud: but also when i try to burn a dvd-rw an error keeps appearing
[04:44] <bamhm182> nevermind
[04:44] <bamhm182> alright
[04:44] <nickrud> Javier, one thing at a time.
[04:44] <racarter> all the music is in subdirectories on a shared drive, it looks like banshee can't handle that?
[04:44] <nickrud> Javier, and telling us what the errors are, exactly, helps a great deal
[04:45] <nickrud> racarter, shared as in how shared? samba? Never tried that myself
[04:45] <Javier> ok
[04:45] <racarter> yeah samba
[04:45] <racarter> smb
[04:45] <racarter> the smb part does not seem to be the problem, it's that the mp3 files are in subdirectories
[04:45] <racarter> i don't feel like recursing each directory manually
[04:46]  * nickrud is lazy like that too ;)
[04:46] <racarter> i just want to import all **/*.mp3 files in the parent directory
[04:46] <tonsofpcs> anyone know if hardware accel with the Intel G33 Express chipset is available?
[04:46] <Cpudan80> Whats the command to completely remove a package?
[04:46] <Pyles17> how might i get my tablet rotation to work? preferrably with the rotate button
[04:46] <bamhm182> nickrud, I googled, it looks like it is something broken with WIndows
[04:46] <nickrud> Cpudan80, sudo apt-get purge
[04:47] <bamhm182> either way, screw it, I've got a lot of homework, I really shouldn't have spent as much time as I already did trying to get this to work, later everyone
[04:47] <racarter> do linux users just not listen to music?
[04:47] <nickrud> bamhm182, at least you know where to look later.
[04:47] <racarter> is there anyway to get an ipod to work on a linux machine btw?
[04:47] <Javier> nickrud: it gives me no name for the error
[04:47] <nickrud> racarter, sure do, but I guess the people here at the moment aren't using samba for sharing music files.
[04:47] <gaintsura> is gparted included on a default ubuntu install?
[04:47] <rww> !ipod | racarter
[04:48] <rww> gaintsura: no. install the package "gparted" to get it.
[04:48] <nickrud> Javier, what does it say? And, how are you trying to get the dvd to write?
[04:48] <whabo> guys with xrandr how can i make it recognize the external screen it only shows a star next to the LVDS 1024 x 760 .. can any one help me brind this resolution up for my external screen thank you.
[04:48] <racarter> bah, i hope i don't have to modify the ipod for this
[04:48] <racarter> apple is worst than microsoft in some ways
[04:48] <racarter> in a lot of ways
[04:48] <nickrud> racarter, ah, which one? My nano 3d gen works great with banshee
[04:49] <Depressed> I did "umount /dev/sdb" which unmounted my USB flash memory drive. how do I mount it back?
[04:49] <rww> racarter: if it's not an iPod Touch or iPhone, it should work fine.
[04:49] <Depressed> I had to unmount to change the filesystem to vfat
[04:49] <Javier> nickrud: i try to burn anything an iso file or music into the dvd, when i starts to delete the previous info, the window turns black and the application freezes
[04:50] <nickrud> http://www.gtkpod.org/libgpod/  racarter just about every app uses this library, this page has the latest info
[04:50] <Cpudan80> nickrud: THanks for the info
[04:50] <nickrud> Javier, what application? It's hard to help without detaild info
[04:52] <nickrud> Depressed, you can just unplug and plug it back in
[04:52] <Javier> nickrud: the app is brassero, it happens also with the sipler burner in ubuntu 8.04, the message that appears or hwo it think it translates is 'undriven error aborted' here's the log error : Error no manejado, abortando (brasero_burn_record burn.c:2270)
[04:53] <Depressed> nickrud: I used mkfs.vfat and when I unplug and plug in back it doesn't detect it
[04:53] <Depressed> I needed a vfat filesystem on it to make a bootable ubuntu installation
[04:53] <Javier> nickrud: it happens also with nero
[04:54] <nickrud> Javier, sounds like it's a kernel problem. So, what error do you get when you try playing the movie with totem?
[04:54] <Ultraputz> how can i make an ubuntu server (fresh install) advertise ssh under zeroconf?
[04:55] <nickrud> Depressed, if it got written properly, you should be able to do sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt . it should be available at /mnt , and show up in the list when you type just  mount
[04:55] <nickrud> Ultraputz, #ubuntu-server is usually the best place for serious server questions
[04:55] <Depressed> nickrud: it said mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:55] <Depressed> I also tried mount -t vfat - no results
[04:56] <Depressed> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb, missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[04:56] <Ultraputz> i didn't realize turning on zeroconf was serious :-) thanks chief
[04:56] <nickrud> Depressed, if it got written properly, you should be able to do sudo mount /dev/sdb -t vfat  /mnt  (normally mount can figure this out)
[04:56] <jedi06> when i create my swap should i put it at begginning or end?
[04:56] <nickrud> Depressed, then I'd guess that you have a bad write
[04:56] <Depressed> is there a difference between "mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /media/home" and "mount /dev/sdb -t vfat /media/home"
[04:57] <nickrud> jedi06, doesn't matter, but some prefer beginning
[04:57] <bamhm182> nickrud, or really anyone, I need to type a file that can be opened in Microsoft Office 2003, even a basic .txt file would work well enough, what app can I use?
[04:57] <nickrud> Depressed, not that I remember ;)
[04:57] <lianimator> Is there a way to batch rotate photos by selection?
[04:57] <Javier> nickrud: i installed this ubuntu yesterday it's ubuntu 8.04; what totem says is that it couldn't play the dvd althought there is a complement installed than can manipulate it
[04:57] <nickrud> bamhm182, openoffice. Tell it to save as .xls
[04:57] <Depressed> I need to format my USB with the vfat file system. what's the easiest way to do this? I tried google, I'm stuck on this for hours :(
[04:57] <bamhm182> isn't .xls excel?
[04:57] <bamhm182> so wouldn't it save it as a spreadsheet?
[04:58] <nickrud> bamhm182, yes. I had a brain fart; I save many spreadsheets for windows users and just typed it by instinct. Save as  .doc ;)
[04:58] <jedi06> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html this guide is saying make swap / and /home all logical is that right?
[04:58] <emsenn> Does anyone know of a boot parameter for the ubuntu 8.10/8.04 livecd that points to filesystem.squashfs being in a non-standard directory?
[04:59] <darius_> Trying to get the G9 working, tried the link from earlier - any help would be appreciated  http://pastebin.ca/1325073
[04:59] <Depressed> nickrud - any ideas?
[04:59] <nickrud> bamhm182, be sure to use fonts that your windows users will have, so your formatting doesn't get messed up.  saving as a pdf and giving those out will preserve formatting, if you can turn that in.
[04:59] <jedi06> does it really matter?
[04:59] <bamhm182> I figured out how to save it as a .doc
[05:00] <nickrud> Depressed, not really; I have formatted exactly one usb stick and it just worked
[05:00] <darius_> apparently the g9 mouse shows up as a keyboard as well
[05:00] <tehquickness> Is there a media manager for linux that wont upload duplicates to your mp3 player that anyone knows of?
[05:00] <jtaji> jedi06: they can be either primary or logical, just making them all logical might be more flexible if you ever need to shuffle partitions around
[05:00] <darius_> so I'm confused on what to change and where
[05:00] <nickrud> jedi06, it doesn't matter; I've used all primary, mixed primary & logical and all logical at one time or another
[05:00] <Javier> nickrud: i installed this ubuntu yesterday it's ubuntu 8.04; what totem says is that it couldn't play the dvd althought there is a complement installed than can manipulate it.
[05:00] <bamhm182> does anyone know of a font that both Ubuntu and Windows have?
[05:00] <emsenn> Depressed: sudo apt-get install gparted, System->Administration->Partition Editor
[05:00] <jedi06> so why do they make two different types
[05:01] <Depressed> thanks.
[05:01] <bamhm182> I've got to go, later everyone
[05:01] <prince_jammys> bamhm182: install msttcorefonts and use one of those
[05:01] <emsenn> Does anyone know of a boot parameter for the ubuntu 8.10/8.04 livecd that points to filesystem.squashfs being in a non-standard directory?
[05:01] <Depressed> emsenn: trying that now
[05:01] <nickrud> Javier, for probably the same reason that it can't write. It's possible that your drive is having issues. the best thing you can do look for errors in the output of the dmesg command
[05:01] <bamhm182> thanks prince_jammys, I will do that later
[05:02] <mohadib> without xinserama i cant do this
[05:02] <mohadib> er
[05:02] <mohadib> is it possible to set up xorg so i can drag windows between displays without xinerama turned on?
[05:02] <nickrud> Javier, that is the record of the kernel starting up and finding all the hardware. you would look for your dvd in there ;(
[05:02] <jtaji> jedi06: there is a historical 4 (primary) partition limit, to overcome that limit one primary is turned into an "extended" container partition which can contain further "logical" paritions
[05:03] <jedi06> so its really a legacy and should be fixed
[05:03] <jtaji> jedi06: logical partitions are the fix :p
[05:03] <quassel181> mohadib: xinerama is almost totally deprecated now and doesn't work with many (if any) current drivers.
[05:03] <Javier> nickrud how do i know it's my dvd? what name does it have?
[05:03] <nickrud> hahahha. Sort of like a gas pedal on the right and clutch pedal on the left is legacy
[05:03] <jedi06> ok fine
[05:03] <quassel181> You want to be using xrandr now.
[05:03] <arvind_k> jtaji, hey i didnt know that... the primary partition stuff
[05:03] <Krstnsn> so.... im having serious issues with firefox
[05:04] <nickrud> Javier, it can vary. You should see something about the name of the dvd manufacturer and the model.
[05:04] <Javier> nickrud: thanks. i'll check it now
[05:05] <mbmb> Hi, I arrive newly
[05:05] <Modjor> hi all, whats the best client for irc ? im using hydra but it doesnt do blinking when someone responds on the main chatroom
[05:05] <jedi06> so now i have an sda5-7 no 1-4
[05:05] <jedi06> looks weird
[05:05] <nickrud> Modjor, xchat is very popular
[05:05] <emsenn> Modjor: Depends on how sophisticated you want, but irssi tends to be highly recommended
[05:05] <mohadib> quassel181: anything else that can give me similar functionality
[05:05] <mbmb> I glad to speak whit us¡
[05:05] <mohadib> i like having one big desktop streatch accross all displays
[05:05] <quassel181> mohadib: xrandr
[05:06] <nickrud> welcome mbmb
[05:06] <mohadib> yet be able to maximaizxe a window to one display
[05:06] <mohadib> quassel181: xrandr is broken for me
[05:06] <quassel181> I don't know if it can do that or not, but xinerama will mostly just lock up your X now.
[05:06] <mohadib> not sure whay
[05:06]  * quassel181 dunno
[05:06] <exmachina> how do i figure out where my flash drive is in /dev/
[05:06] <mohadib> i have used xinerama for ever
[05:06] <mohadib> works well
[05:06] <mohadib> just the compositor for xfce doesnt work with it on
[05:06] <n0yd> Anyone running a Macbook Pro 5.1 or the MBP Aluminum, and has multitouch working so I can actually click and drag things? ;)
[05:06] <Modjor> nickrud, i used to have xchat but they want me to pay after a month use ?
[05:07] <mohadib> ah
[05:07] <nickrud> Modjor, windows? There's a free version, a sec
[05:07] <mohadib> xrandr works now that xinerama is off
[05:07] <mohadib> hmm
[05:08] <rainmanp7> Gdnight
[05:09] <unused_bagels> i need help getting the latest version of a program, but apparently all it is is sauce code.
[05:10] <unused_bagels> I don't know how to compile source code
[05:10] <nickrud> Modjor, http://www.silverex.org/download/
[05:10] <Javier> nickrud: i see a lot of errors, how can i identify the source?
[05:10] <Modjor> thanks a lot nickrud
[05:10] <alex_> where does ubuntu keep the bin.jar files for mysql jdbc connectors?
[05:10] <nickrud> Javier, googling the errors? There's no troubleshooting tree for the kernel that I know of
[05:11] <Javier> ok
[05:11] <Javier> so, do i have to buy a new dvd drive?
[05:11] <Javier> nickrud: do i have to buy a new dvd drive?
[05:11] <nickrud> Javier, maybe. If you could borrow one to try
[05:11] <Javier> i'll try that
[05:12] <nickrud> Javier, but I'm just guessing, I'm not at your machine
[05:12] <nickrud> unused_bagels, what program (with link)
[05:12] <Javier> nickrud: thanks you've been realy helpfull, see you later,i've got to go
[05:12] <unused_bagels> nickrud: teeworlds teeworlds.com
[05:12] <nickrud> Javier, I don't feel like I've helped you much, but I hope you were able to get some ideas
[05:12] <mohadib> quassel181: xrandr doesnt seem to work with multilpe video cards
[05:13] <mohadib> just one card with multiple heads
[05:13] <unused_bagels> I want to use version 5.1 and my buddies all have that.  I'm incompatible.
[05:13] <mohadib> or so it seems thus far
[05:13] <Brando753> hey how do i do i copy stuff in a folder thats got a lock on it?
[05:13] <agus> how can i use my samba ??
[05:13] <Javier> nickrud: i've got anothe question, how come i'm able to burn and watch dvds in vista?
[05:14] <Javier> nickrud: can it be the driver?
[05:14] <nickrud> software/hardware mismatch
[05:14] <agus> mao pada makan kagak udah jam 12 siang nihhh
[05:14] <Depressed> I messed my partitions and when I try to boot ubuntu now I get Error 22 grub loader. how to fixmbr?
[05:14] <alex_> so.. i download the mysql package and mysteriously the mysql-connectors disappear from ubuntu?
[05:14] <alex_> what goes on
[05:15] <Brando753> hey how do i do i copy stuff in a folder thats got a lock on it?
[05:15] <unused_bagels> nickrud : http://teeworlds.com
[05:15] <nickrud> unused_bagels, looking at it
[05:15] <unused_bagels> oh sorry nickrud
[05:16] <skeebo> is there any demonoid users out there that know why their site is down?
[05:16] <emsenn> I'm building a custom liveusb, and am wondering if there is any way to force ubuntu, via boot parameters, to look in a nonstandard directory for /casper/filesystem.squashfs
[05:16] <emsenn> Its most likely been raided and/or shut down again, skeebo
[05:16] <mohadib> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-613001.html
[05:16] <vince> Can anyone tell me what Flash Audio and WINE audio have in common?  Both were knocked out by the lastest kernal update on my machine
[05:16] <mohadib> aye, seems xrandr is till pretty beats
[05:16] <mohadib> beta
[05:16] <emsenn> But there's nothing certain yet
[05:16]  * skeebo worries and crosses fingers
[05:17] <mohadib> vince: grab the restricted modules pkg for that kernel
[05:17] <vince> Everything else seems to work fine though
[05:17] <mohadib> willprobably fiox you up
[05:17] <mohadib> just guessing
[05:17] <skeebo> emsenn: thanks
[05:17] <Depressed> I messed my partitions and when I try to boot ubuntu now I get Error 22 grub loader. how to fixmbr?
[05:17] <Javier> nickrud: if i'm able to burn and play dvds in vista, could it be related to the driver?
[05:17] <emsenn> no problem
[05:17] <Brando753> hey how do i do i copy stuff in a folder thats got a lock on it? Anyone?
[05:17] <vince> mohadib: What am i looking for in Synaptic for that exactly?  Should the restricted modules been updated at the same time?
[05:17] <nickrud> Javier, yes, that's what I meant by hardware/software problems. Drivers are not easily changed
[05:18] <skeebo> Brando753, root privileges maybe?
[05:18] <Brando753> how though, how can i open a folder as root
[05:19] <Javier> nickrud: ok, thanks i'll see what i can do, i appreciate yout attention, bye
[05:19] <drunktard> are there any guides for optimizing ubuntu for AMD64 and if any debootstrapping for i386 are recommended for some programs?
[05:19] <mohadib> vince: apt-cache search `uname -r` | grep -i header
[05:19] <nickrud> unused_bagels, I took a look at the source; it doesn't use a build system that I'm familiar with at all.
[05:19] <skeebo> Brando753, gksudo nautilus
[05:19] <skeebo> i belive
[05:19] <Brando753> ?
[05:19] <unused_bagels> nickrud any idea how I should go about installing that?
[05:19] <ThePlastikJesus> If i was to install windows xp from the xp CD over ubuntu is there anything i need to do before or will the xp installer format the ubuntu?
[05:20] <unused_bagels> nickrud or where to look at least?
[05:20] <skeebo> open a terminal and type gksudo nautilus
[05:20] <skeebo> brando753
[05:20] <mohadib> ThePlastikJesus: xp instller will bugger your boot loader
[05:20] <nickrud> unused_bagels, I'd suggest their forums or documentation
[05:20] <mohadib> er nvm
[05:20] <Brando753> thanks
[05:20] <mohadib> ThePlastikJesus: you will be good to go
[05:20] <unused_bagels> all right then.
[05:20] <unused_bagels> nickrud thanks anyway
[05:20] <ThePlastikJesus> mohadib:thx
[05:20] <emsenn> What sort of file is ".ko" and is possible to edit it by hand?
[05:20] <mohadib> np
[05:20] <skeebo> Brando753, no problem
[05:21] <mohadib> emsenn: kernel module
[05:21] <mohadib> you can not edit it
[05:21] <mohadib> you can pass options to it on load
[05:21] <emsenn> Is there any way to see what options it can take?
[05:21] <vince> mohadib : DO you want the output from that command?
[05:21] <mohadib> vince: the output is the pkg you should instakk
[05:21] <mohadib> install
[05:22] <Brando753> thanks dude that worked :D
[05:22] <tuxfan> do you actually need  anti-virus software in linux?
[05:22] <drunktard> ThePlastikJesus: no really, it will overwrite lilo/grub so check for guides on google
[05:22] <mohadib> like linux-hearder-2.6.26-restried
[05:22] <skeebo> Brando753, no problem man, glad to help
[05:22] <mohadib> vince: greap for restricted
[05:22] <mohadib> i use debian and got my channels mixed up
[05:22] <mohadib> lol
[05:22] <mohadib> just apt-cache search (kernel-version) | grep -i restricted
[05:22] <vince> mohadib : So I want the restricted modules from linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic?
[05:22] <mohadib> vince: froget that header part
[05:22] <ThePlastikJesus> drunktard: I'm not trying to keep ubuntu just install xp on this pc
[05:23] <ninom> Hello Everyone!
[05:23] <mohadib> though having the kernel headers installed is good too
[05:23] <mohadib> vince: apt-cache search `uname -r` | grep -i restricted
[05:23] <tuxfan> so do you actually need anti-virus software in linux?
[05:23] <mohadib> install the pkg it spits out ^
[05:23] <tuxfan> NE1
[05:23] <ninom> I have a question. My machine is 64bit capable, should i go with 32 bit ubuntu or 64 bit, because lets say windows 64 bit has issues that some drivers dont work with hardware and so on.
[05:23] <prince_jammys> tuxfan: not really, no
[05:24] <drunktard> alrighty then
[05:24] <ninom> if anyone can help i would appreciate it
[05:24] <Cpudan80> ninom: if you have no reason to use  64 - stick with 32
[05:24] <T1T4N1UM_M4N> i cant live without 64-bit :P 6gbram i have :)
[05:24] <usser> ninom, although a lot of issues were fixed with 64bit ubuntu, unless you have more than 3gb of ram, i recommend going with 32bit
[05:24] <Cpudan80> ninom: if Adobe would ever get their head out of the ground and make flash work for 64bit ....
[05:24] <ninom> i have 4 gigs of ram
[05:25] <Cpudan80> then you have no choice
[05:25] <nathanhelp> I upgraded automatically today and (unusually) an notification popped up. "What do you want to do about smb.conf file." I asked it to show differences between the files and I don't really know what I'm looking at. Would it be safe to automatically upgrade using the auto-updater allowing things to overwrite?
[05:25] <mohadib> usser: even then, you can use the big mem hack
[05:25] <unused_bagels> nickrud i found the source code.
[05:25] <Cpudan80> Do NOT use PAE hacks to fix it so you can see 4 GBs
[05:25] <ninom> oh so flash doesnt work with ubuntu 64 bit ok, thats not good for me i need flash
[05:25] <Cpudan80> ninom: it works
[05:25] <vince> mohadib : I ran that command and then attempted to install the file it gave me.  Apt-Get says I already have the latest version
[05:25] <mohadib> usser: all 4 gigs of my ram are addressed and used with 32 bit lunix
[05:25] <usser> ninom, it works but its flakey
[05:25] <Cpudan80> ninom: it isnt as stable as some would like
[05:25] <T1T4N1UM_M4N> flash works for me in ubuntu 64-bit
[05:25] <ninom> so you guys think just stick with 32 bit
[05:25] <mohadib> vince: hmm, not sure why you are getting buggered then, sorry
[05:25] <mohadib> ninom: i did
[05:25] <Cpudan80> Adobe really needs to fix flash for 64 bit
[05:25] <usser> mohadib, yea you can use like a server kernel or enable PAE on the desktop
[05:25] <mohadib> because of flash and java appplets
[05:25] <Cpudan80> Its broken on windows too
[05:26] <ninom> i am mostly using my computer for some music making, internet, and maybe office word and stuff like that
[05:26] <nathanhelp> ninom: I would wait for a year or two beofre going to 64bit
[05:26] <Cpudan80> Yes Adobe and Sun need to get together and jump on the 64 bit bandwagon
[05:26] <mohadib> me too
[05:26] <usser> mohadib, java is completely 64 bit nowadays
[05:26] <mohadib> usser: not the applet or webstart plugin
[05:26] <Cpudan80> Java is a little hoakey on the 64 side
[05:26] <Cpudan80> anyway
[05:26] <mohadib> the jvm is
[05:26] <Cpudan80> I need to hop off
[05:26] <usser> mohadib, cant for the life of me figure why there needs to be a browser plugin in the first place
[05:26] <mohadib> you have to install a 32 bit apllet plugin and webstart
[05:26] <batcoder-7> anyone here ever use curlftpfs?
[05:26] <nathanhelp> I upgraded automatically today and (unusually) an notification popped up. "What do you want to do about smb.conf file." I asked it to show differences between the files and I don't really know what I'm looking at. Would it be safe to automatically upgrade using the auto-updater allowing things to overwrite?
[05:27] <vince> Anyone else have any idea's why FLASH Audio and WINE Audio dosen't work with the new Kernel update?  If someone could tell me how to downgrade back to what I had this morning that would be helpfull as well
[05:27] <mohadib> usser: that was pre webstrart days
[05:27] <T1T4N1UM_M4N> anyone else here using synergy? its awsome :)
[05:27] <mohadib> webstart is replacing applets mostly
[05:27] <mohadib> T1T4N1UM_M4N: indeed
[05:27] <mohadib> vince: other audio does?
[05:27] <nathanhelp> T1T4N1UM_M4N: I want to soon, once my HD's are actually set up. Any tips or hints?
[05:27] <usser> T1T4N1UM_M4N, yep synergy rocks
[05:27] <ninom> guys, thank you for your answers, i was already ubuntu user with 32 bit but i didnt know if my computer would be faster with 64 bit you know, like if i would see a big difference. also why i left ubuntu i wasnt able to find any media center programs, to stream media over my wireless to my ps3 so i can watch movies on my tv without connecting it directly to my computer.
[05:27] <vince> mohadib : I have 2 sound cards and everything else works fine with them
[05:28] <nathanhelp> ninom: VLC streams
[05:28] <mohadib> vince: you do run a sounds daemon or something?
[05:28] <mohadib> esd or the like?
[05:28] <T1T4N1UM_M4N> well not really its pretty simple to set up althogh the gui could be better :)
[05:28] <mohadib> maybe thats buggering
[05:28] <ninom> is it easy to setup nathanhelp?
[05:28] <batcoder-7> emacs vs vim?
[05:28] <vince> mohadib : I did the update today, all my imputs got switched around and flash quit working.  I just noticed WINE also is dead when I went into Ventrillo and its busted there as well
[05:28] <mohadib> lol
[05:28] <batcoder-7> what one is generally thought as better?
[05:28] <mohadib> batcoder-7: nano!
[05:28] <vince> mohadib : Be honest with you I have no clue
[05:29] <nathanhelp> ninom: I've never tried, since i have no need of streaming. However i DO know that VLC has the capability
[05:29] <batcoder-7> nano is not so good for programming
[05:29] <IPconfig> hey trying to install ubuntu 8.10 desktop version but when it drops into the X window it  tried to bring up a screen but has a blank white screen in the middle and the brown graphics around has done it twice now i am not sure if its installing or not
[05:29] <ninom> ok, nathan, well i am on windows now i am going to download ubuntu 32 bit and delete my windows.
[05:29] <batcoder-7> nano does not even have undo
[05:29] <ninom> i appreciate your help
[05:29] <IPconfig> cant i have it not drop into x windows
[05:29] <T1T4N1UM_M4N> vlc streaming is good but sometimes can be a pain to set up
[05:29] <nathanhelp> :)
[05:29] <IPconfig> just want to install it without X or atleast use it without X
[05:29] <ninom> i will see you on here again, because i might need help again. you never know
[05:29] <ninom> have a nice night guys.
[05:30] <IPconfig> can i do anything at the beggining of the installation ?
[05:30] <mohadib> vince: lsof | grep /dev/snd
[05:30] <usser> IPconfig, get alternate cd it has a text installer
[05:31] <mohadib> maybe somehing is blocking it
[05:31] <mohadib> i dunno, grasping at straws :p
[05:31] <evilGUI> Hello I have 7150 go in my laptop and it's reaching 68C is this normal?
[05:31] <Depressed> I try to install ubuntu on my eeePC (booted through USB stick) but I can't find my hard disk, I can only see my usb memory stick when comes to partition part? HELP
[05:31] <koshar2> IPconfig or minimal imstal
[05:32] <IPconfig> usser not sure i understand what you mean
[05:32] <T1T4N1UM_M4N> evilGUI graphics cards can easily withstand up to around 100 C
[05:32] <IPconfig> koshar2 i cant chose a minimal install
[05:32] <vince> mohadib : http://paste.ubuntu.com/112654/
[05:32] <koshar2> IPconfig you need the minimal cd
[05:32] <IPconfig> i thought i could basically  just configure not to have X booted
[05:32] <usser> IPconfig, theres different installation cds, desktop uses Xorg to run installer, alternate cd's installer is console based
[05:32] <evilGUI> T1T4N1UM_M4N: I know but since this one is intergated
[05:32] <mohadib> vince: hmm, looks like mine, no idea mate, sorry
[05:32] <IPconfig> koshar2 i downloaded it .. so i download minimal install cd ? is what you saying
[05:32] <therealnanotube> plugged in the sony "eyetoy" webcam... but device manager is showing it as an audio device only, no video... any suggestions?
[05:32] <therealnanotube> !eyetoy
[05:32] <nathanhelp> automatic update is about to overwrite my smb.conf file. Should I continue in letting it do its job?
[05:33] <evilGUI> I have compiz disabled
[05:33] <vince> mohadib : Ok, Can you tell me how to downgrade to my previous kernel?
[05:33] <mohadib> vince: reboot, choose it via grub
[05:33] <mohadib> ensure everything works as expected
[05:33] <T1T4N1UM_M4N> 68 C should be alrite i guess
[05:33] <yuri_> hi, I would like to configure a proxy server at home so i can connect to it from work to bypass stupid filters. what is the easiest package that will let me do this?
[05:33] <vince> mohadib : It did not update my GRUB when it upgraded
[05:33] <mohadib> then set it as the default kernel in /boot/grub/menu.1st
[05:34] <mohadib> not the config?
[05:34] <Kevdog> yuri_: Do you just want a socks proxy or a VPN?
[05:34] <mohadib> didnt it add the new kernel?
[05:34] <mohadib> or was it just a "inplace" kernel update?
[05:34] <yuri_> Kevdog: i dont know the diff. i just want to bypass filters
[05:34] <thedark> hello everyone
[05:34] <Kevdog> yuri_: Want are you going to be doing?  Just to use the internet or more?
[05:34] <vince> mohadib : I -THINK- it was inplace.  All I know is it said it wanted to update the kernal and I said "Do It" My grub menu did not change afterward.
[05:34] <arvind_k> !hi | thedark
[05:35] <thedark> I upgraded to kubuntu 8.10 and now kubuntu won't boot :(
[05:35] <yuri_> Kevdog: http only
[05:35] <thedark> I asked in the kubuntu channel but nobody has answered
[05:35] <therealnanotube> yuri_: try squid. and make sure to set it up to go through https (ssl), so that the admins can't sniff your traffic
[05:35] <porter1> thedark, what happens specifically?
[05:35] <arvind_khadri> thedark, what error do you get?
[05:35] <mohadib> vince: hmm, no idea man
[05:35] <thedark> the mouse cursor shows up and works after the Kubuntu logo screen with the progress bar
[05:35] <Kevdog> yuri_: The easiest way is to set up a SOCKS5 proxy that tunnels over ssh.  Wormser has a post in the forums how to do this!
[05:35] <yuri_> therealnanotube: relatively easy to configure?
[05:35] <thedark> also, there is a background image
[05:35] <thedark> but that is it
[05:36] <thedark> no log in prompt
[05:36] <thedark> no desktop icons or start bar
[05:36] <therealnanotube> yuri_: there are tutorials out there. so... yes :)
[05:36] <porter1> Maybe try reinstalling kdm?
[05:36] <yuri_> therealnanotube: thanks ill research it
[05:36] <yuri_> Kevdog: thanks il look into squid
[05:36] <thedark> I tried doing dpkg in recovery mode
[05:36] <therealnanotube> yuri_: see what ubotu has to say about it
[05:36] <therealnanotube> !squid
[05:36] <mohadib> vince: you can reomplile the kernel :D
[05:36] <thedark> for some reason it says it cannopt connect to the archive
[05:37] <thedark> but I know my internet is fine, I am using Puppy Linux and talking to you online now!
[05:37] <Depressed> I try to install ubuntu on my eeePC (booted through USB stick) but I can't find my hard disk, I can only see my usb memory stick when comes to partition part? HELP
[05:37] <vince> mohadib : Way beyond my abilities.  I'm running 2.6.27-7-generic right now according to uname
[05:37] <mohadib> vince: how many kernels are in your grub config?
[05:37] <thedark> so what can I do?
[05:37] <Kevdog> How is squid going to help him tunnel from work to home?
[05:37] <therealnanotube> yuri_: hm, you can start with this one: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Seting-Up-a-HTTP-Proxy-Server-with-Authentication-and-Filtering-52467.shtml
[05:37] <quassel181> thedark: I answered you on #kubuntu
[05:37] <therealnanotube> yuri_: ssh proxy is also a nice way. probably "easier" overall to do, once you know how to.
[05:38] <yuri_> therealnanotube: will do
[05:38] <mohadib> vince: just the one you are running, and a safe mode option?
[05:38] <Kevdog> Wouldn't tunneling over ssh be easier than setting up squid -- which I could never figure out how to do exactly -- Meaning I got it to work, but tweaking it was a pain in the A$$
[05:38] <mohadib> or are there a few others
[05:38] <vince> mohadib : Yeap.  The upgrade commented out my old Kernal LOL
[05:38] <therealnanotube> yuri_: try this for setting up an ssh tunnel: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Seting-Up-a-HTTP-Proxy-Server-with-Authentication-and-Filtering-52467.shtml
[05:39] <vince> Thats why I don't see it
[05:39] <mohadib> :D
[05:39] <vince> Let me fix that boot in th eold one and see if that fixes it
[05:39] <vince> i'll BRB
[05:39] <mohadib> o/
[05:39] <dou213> therealnanotube, can u provide a link for ssh proxy too?
[05:40] <therealnanotube> dou213: that was it.
[05:40] <yuri_> therealnanotube: ssh tunnel is interesting... so i will be able to use putty+ firefox at work to make this work? i already use ssh
[05:40] <therealnanotube> dou213: ssh tunnel = ssh proxy, basically
[05:40] <therealnanotube> yuri_: right
[05:41] <yuri_> therealnanotube: interesting
[05:41] <therealnanotube> dou213: yuri_: sorry, pasted wrong link for ssh tunnel: http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/21/how-to-ssh-tunnels-for-secure-network-access/
[05:42] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: I checked out the squid link you suggested -- Very Nice -- Any way to tunnel that using https?
[05:44] <Kevdog> yuri_: Here is another link in addition : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=723025&highlight=ssh
[05:44] <vince> mohadib : Nope... Under the old one it's broken now too
[05:45] <vince> mohadib : Im going to launch firefox from console an see if I can see anything odd going on
[05:45] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: hmm.. honestly, i'm not sure ...
[05:45] <interuppt> can anyone help me with my ethernet? on the box, connecting a live rj45, the connection goes green. I think I see it as 802-3-ethernet **but** when I run ifconfig I see this eery message at the bottom of eth0 "Interrupt:251 Base address:0x4000" ... I cannot connect with my ethernet :/
[05:46] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: Im sure it would require generation of certificates and such to make use of OpenSSL -- similar to setting up apache
[05:46] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: that's what i'm thinking too
[05:46] <mohadib> vince: good luck
[05:46] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: haven't done any of that myself though
[05:46] <interuppt> my wireless works but is so slow, its not funny. can anyone help me with my ethernet?
[05:47] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: If you follow a cookbook recipie -- its quite easy for Apache at least -- have no idea about squid!
[05:47] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: heh everything is easier when there's a recipe :)
[05:48]  * Kevdog needs recipe for life!
[05:48] <Baatti> I'm trying to use Compiz to configure my desktop settings to a Cube. I tried using the Synaptic to find Compiz, and found that there was a lot of compiz already installed. I reinstalled it all, but I still don't have the manager in System>Prefs
[05:49] <emsenn> sudo apt-get install ccsm
[05:49] <emsenn> @baatti
[05:49] <Baatti> thank you
[05:49] <yuri_> therealnanotube: i am using the command ssh -D 9999 user@ip to connect to myself for testing the ssh tunnel. i set firefox for locahost:9999 in the proxy but my pages end up blank.. any ideas?
[05:49] <interuppt> can someone please help? google is not working for me. my google-fu is beat. my ethernet refuses to work though I think ubuntu sees it :/
[05:49] <Baatti> emsenn: E: Couldn't find package ccsm
[05:49] <emsenn> oh
[05:49] <crdlb> Baatti: he meant compizconfig-settings-manager, but I would suggest simple-ccsm
[05:50] <crdlb> at least at first
[05:50] <emsenn> ahh simple-ccsm is what I meant
[05:50] <Kevdog> yuri_: Can you perform a basic connection through a shell first just to make sure you have an ssh connection?
[05:50] <yuri_> Kevdog: yes, i can. i use ssh fairly often
[05:50] <Baatti> heh, oh, thanks
[05:50] <Baatti> what's the diff between simple- and reg?
[05:51] <emsenn> simple has less options, but is easier to set up
[05:51] <emsenn> I'm building a custom liveusb, and am wondering if there is any way to force ubuntu, via boot parameters, to look in a nonstandard directory for /casper/filesystem.squashfs?
[05:51] <gaintsura> I've got a bash script that I want to run at boot time (just after interfaces are brought up), where can I place this script?
[05:52] <therealnanotube> yuri_: getting the same thing here... not sure if it will work with localhost like that...
[05:52] <yuri_> therealnanotube: thnk its b/c itsthe same computer? or should i do something like <IP_ADDRESS> instead?
[05:53] <interuppt> damn... anybody got a clue? I am clueless on what to do about the ethernet... clueless as what to do next :(
[05:53] <emsenn> if you want to test ssh on your own computer, use <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:53]  * emsenn isn't sure if that's what you were asking about, but thought so
[05:54] <Kevdog> yuri_: Are you testing on the same computer?
[05:54] <yuri_> Kevdog: yes
[05:54] <Kevdog> yuri_: try <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:54] <bullgard4> What are "stats" in Synaptic?: "This package contains the Wireless tools, used to manipulate the Linux Wireless Extensions. The Wireless Extension is an interface allowing you to set Wireless LAN specific parameters and get the specific stats."
[05:54] <yuri_> Kevdog: already have. same result
[05:55] <Kevdog> yuri_: I remember reading a problem with the loopback address somewhere!
[05:55] <yuri_> Kevdog: therealnanotube: ill try it from work tomorow. thanks for your help
[05:56] <Kevdog> yuri_: You got another computer on the local LAN to try it with?
[05:56] <AbsZero> I recently went to compile a file (for simplicity's sake: file.c). The command was a standard compile command (gcc file.c). The c file itself has no flaws (copied and pasted from a textbook as an example). It failed to compile because it could not find <stdio.h> and <stdlib.h>. I was under the impression that ubuntu had gcc included in it by default. So i ran the command "sudo apt-get install gcc", and it said I had the latest version of
[05:58] <yuri_> Kevdog: i do but i need to get to sleep
[05:58] <Kevdog> AbsZero: What did you list as include statements?
[05:58] <yuri_> Kevdog: ill let you know how it goes
[05:58] <Kevdog> yuri_: If we ever meet again, let me know, I'm not around here on the irc too much!
[05:58] <jtaji> AbsZero: it's not installed by default... install build-essential will grab gcc and the c libraries
[05:58] <yuri_> Kevdog: me neither
[05:58] <alex_> so the way to install stuff in any linux, including ubuntu is to untar the tar.gz file, go to the bin directory and run sh on the install file?
[05:59] <yuri_> Kevdog: oh well, you never knoiw
[05:59] <Tokr> greetings to all, I've installed ubuntu for the first time and could use a little help.
[05:59] <Tokr> I've managed to create two installs on two partitions. now I want to remove one of them.
[05:59] <nelly><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:59] <Tokr> cfdisk should be able to do that for me but I don't know how to find out which partition the ubuntu server is actually running on.
[05:59] <jtaji> alex_: no normally you use the distro's package management
[05:59] <Kevdog> alex_: it depends.  The usual syntax is ./configure, make, sudo make install however this could be different depending on the package
[05:59] <Depressed> I messed around with my partition manager and I "unallocated" my data somehow. how do I bring it back ? I get error 22 in grub loader.
[06:01] <alex_> distro's package management for mysql is lacking
[06:01] <alex_> i need all the jar files
[06:01] <alex_> and everything else
[06:01] <nite_johnboy> Hi - Can someone tell the (2) two key combination to select all files in a list? In windows same idea would be " Ctrl + Shift " ?
[06:01] <Kevdog> alex_: What are you trying to install?  Have you used the apt-cache search command?
[06:02] <alex_> i'm trying to set up mysql-connector using jdbc
[06:02] <Kevdog> ctrl-A?
[06:02] <Lucifer_Cat> nite_johnboy: in windows it would be "Ctrl+A"
[06:02] <Finnish_> I have a file thats AMR-audio, how can I open that?
[06:02] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: yuri_: hm, just tried with some remote servers... and also just getting the blank page. so it's not the local loopback bit that's the problem...
[06:02] <nite_johnboy> Lucifer_Cat; Thank you .....
[06:03] <rakudave> Depressed: Not very likely, sorry... never mess with existing partitions ;)
[06:03] <vince> I've Removed Pulse Audio, I've switched back to the old Kernal, I've done EVERYTHING I can find on google and in the forums. Why won't this WORK!?!? *sob*
[06:03] <Depressed> rakudave: am I dead?
[06:03] <nite_johnboy> Lucifer_Cat; Yup - that definitely does - thanks again.....
[06:03] <Lucifer_Cat> Depressed: not yet
[06:04] <nite_johnboy> * does it
[06:04] <AbsZero> jtaji: Thanks for your response! I didn't know they weren't installed by default. Will a "sudo apt-get build-essential" or "sudo apt-get gcc-build-essential" do, perhaps?
[06:04] <Lucifer_Cat> youre welcome nite_johnboy
[06:04] <Brando753> hey is there a format comand like there is in windows?
[06:04] <fonzarelli> Brando753: look into mkfs
[06:04] <jtaji> AbsZero: apt-get install build-essential
[06:04] <rakudave> Depressed: you could try some forensic data recovery cd's, but I have no experience with that... use google ^^
[06:05] <AbsZero> Thanks jtaji!
[06:05] <Brando753> what do i type exactly into the terminal to reformatg my flash drive
[06:05] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: ?? Did you port forward 9999 or whatever port?
[06:05] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: could be that ubuntu's ssh is compiled without this? or something else is the problem?
[06:05] <bullgard4> What are "stats" in Synaptic?: "This package contains the Wireless tools, used to manipulate the Linux Wireless Extensions. The Wireless Extension is an interface allowing you to set Wireless LAN specific parameters and get the specific stats."
[06:06] <vince> DO you guys think It's worth it to reinstall Ubuntu from scratch?  I absolutely MUST have flash audio.
[06:06] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: well, i did "ssh -D 8080 servername", that created a connection from me to servername, and made localhost:8080 the proxy address. and it still returns just the blank page for whatever page i go to.
[06:06] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: I usually do this only with the dd-wrt router at home -- work tunnels to my home router -- and not to a computer behind the router --
[06:06] <Depressed> rakudave: you probably have an idea. I am trying to install ubuntu on my eeePC but it doesn't detect my hard disks?
[06:06] <Brando753> what do i type exactly into the terminal to reformatg my flash drive
[06:07] <rakudave> Tokr: try finding out by first placing some testfile in your root dir, and then go to /media/sdaX. If you find the file again in one of the folders, that's you root folder and you know which partition to delete. be carefull though
[06:07] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: i know i used to do this before, back on dapper or something, and it worked exactly like this. something must have changed...
[06:07] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: Socks5 proxy checked?
[06:07] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: yes
[06:07] <rakudave> Depressed: A flash-drive, i presume?
[06:07] <AbsZero> Kevdog: If you're having some issues ussing the ssh commands, you could always try downloading "putty". It's a GUI based ssh client that takes care of all the icky stuff for you.
[06:07] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: Check the sshd_conf file!
[06:07] <Depressed> rakudave the installation is from a flash drive, want to install on my hhdd
[06:08] <Brando753> how do i do a flash drive reformat
[06:08] <rakudave> Depressed: Try using easy-peasy (awful name, i know). It's Ubuntu for Eee's: http://www.geteasypeasy.com/
[06:09] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: well, i'm checking the ssh_config file (not sshd, since setting up the tunnel from my end involves only ssh, not sshd)
[06:09] <koshar2> Brando753 same as a hard disk
[06:09] <rakudave> Brando753: It should show up in the partition manager. If you don't have one, "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[06:10] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: Let me see what the stock sshd_conf file has!  I need to install this on my ubuntu install (again I usually just use dd-wrt) so give me a second
[06:10] <koshar2> Brando753 and what you type is relevent to what the device is
[06:11] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: Installing openssh-server
[06:12] <Tokr> rakudave: that didn't work, but I looked in ..grub/menu.lst and found hda0,4. That could indicate the partition right?
[06:12] <Brando753> gparted wont let me reformat
[06:13] <Depressed> rakudave: do you know a good utility to make a USB bootable
[06:13] <fr500> hey
[06:13] <fr500> anyone got an atom board here?
[06:13] <rakudave> Tokr: yes, hd0,4 means first hd, _fifth_ partition (counting starts at 0)
[06:14] <Brando753> Depredded use unetbootin but use an old one
[06:14] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: let me know what you see :)
[06:14] <rakudave> Depressed: There is one installed by default, the "usb-creator"
[06:14] <Brando753> ill send you the .deb
[06:15] <Depressed> yes but when I download the .iso I want to install through my USB, I haeve to make it bootable no?
[06:15] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: i looked at mine, didn't see anything useful...
[06:15] <Brando753> that will make a bootable usb drive form any .iso
[06:15] <Depressed> what is this deb about? my DCC is broken
[06:16] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: Havent found anything yet -- got ssh setup, know I guess I will try to do a loopback to my own machine
[06:16] <Brando753> hey how do i reformat my flash drive
[06:19] <Brando753> hey how do i reformat my flash drive i cant seem to do it ;(
[06:19] <Rave1_> Brando753, did you install gparted
[06:19] <Brando753> yes
[06:19] <rakudave> Brando753: still with gparted. there is a dropdown in the top-right corner to switch from your hd to the flash
[06:19] <Brando753> i did
[06:20] <scientes> i get a  input output error when trying to format a dvd-rw to do packet writing
[06:20] <bullgard4> What are "stats" in Synaptic?: "This package contains the Wireless tools, used to manipulate the Linux Wireless Extensions. The Wireless Extension is an interface allowing you to set Wireless LAN specific parameters and get the specific stats."
[06:20] <therealnanotube> Brando753: or try mkfs from cli
[06:20] <Rave1_> Brando753,  then clik on device
[06:20] <therealnanotube> !mkfs
[06:20] <rakudave> then you right-click on the partition on the flash and delete it. the you can create a new one by clicking on "new"
[06:21] <Brando753> delete option is gray
[06:21] <Brando753> cant click
[06:21] <rakudave> unmount if first then
[06:21] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: Well I ssh'd  into my own machine with dynamic port 9999 and then set firefox to use SOCKS proxy over 9999 -- everything worked -- I then closed the ssh connection -- proxy failed -- then restarted ssh connection -- everything worked again!
[06:22] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: what exactly was your commandline, and what exactly did you set in firefox?
[06:22] <Rave1_>  Brando753    click on device on top bar then create partion table
[06:23] <Brando753> thx i just had to unmount it :d
[06:24] <Brando753> see ya
[06:24] <Kevdog> ssh -D 9999 -C localhost  (typed at the command line)  Within Firefox - Manual Proxy Configuration - SOCKS Host - <IP_ADDRESS> Port 9999
[06:24] <AbsZero> On a note completely unrelated to my previous query: Does anybody know if it is possible, without zipping it into an archive and password protecting the archive, to place password protection of sorts onto a specific folder/directory?
[06:26] <Kevdog> AbsZero: you could use truecrypt to do this, but beginning with intrepid there is some built in encryption protocol -- but I can't say I know how to do this - its some directory encryption option
[06:26] <therealnanotube> hm, never mind... my problem was that i set firefox to use localhost for "all proxy types", not just socks. so apparently firefox "prefers" other types before trying socks, so that's why it failed. duh.
[06:26] <outbri>  AbsZero: In Nautilus, right click on the folder. Click encrypt.
[06:27] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: So it worked from a remote machine however? and not just localhost?
[06:27] <Depressed> help. does anyone know a good Windows utility to make a USB bootable I want to install Ubuntu from a USB
[06:27] <edward> Hai guys, im installing i got a linksys wmp300n and when i do 'ndiswrapper -l' it says that 'bcmwl5 : driver installed'....BUT when i go to 'System>Admin>Wireless Network Drivers it says that bcmwl5 Hardware present: NO . also whenever i start up my computer i have to input the following command to 'initialize the adapter' I have ubuntu8.10 intrepid..any suggestions? I feel like that the adapter not initalizing has something to do with 'Wi
[06:27] <edward> reless Network Drivers' not recognizing the hardware..any suggestions?
[06:27] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: yes, remote machine. i didn't even try localhost-to-localhost
[06:27] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: you want me to try that too?
[06:28] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: No - forget the localhost to localhost -- I did that.
[06:28] <Kevdog> edward: is that a usb device?
[06:28] <edward> not pci
[06:28] <edward> i had an old usb adapter
[06:28] <Kevdog> edward: so its usb?
[06:29] <Kevdog> edward: or pci?
[06:29] <edward> thats taking up the wlan0 slot..and the forcing my pci adapter to comp up as eth2
[06:29] <edward> its pci
[06:29] <Kevdog> edward: good, can you post lspci -nnm
[06:29] <rakudave> AbsZero: that's what's what folder permissions are for. you can take the read-permissions from the others and they won't be able to open the file. If you prefer stronger security, use truecrypt
[06:29] <edward> ok
[06:29] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: ok, well... problem solved. thanks for helping out. :) not that i needed an ssh tunnel... i was just curious. :)
[06:30] <edward> Kevdog, http://paste.ubuntu.com/112661/
[06:30] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: I don't tunnel often -- but its quick and easy.  A lot easier than OpenVPN, however not as powerful since every application can be tunneled over the VPN
[06:30] <AbsZero> I'm the only user on my computer, but if I wanted to make it so that I would need to know the password for a file to open it (so that someone who plops down on my computer won't randomly open it).
[06:31] <edward> its saying BCM43XG i thought i blacklisted it
[06:31] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: indeed. :)
[06:31] <therealnanotube> AbsZero: chown the file to root, that's the simplest way
[06:32] <rakudave> AbsZero: ok then, you need to create a truecrypt archive. get truecrypt at www.truecrypt.org
[06:32] <Kevdog> edward: is this a wireless card?
[06:32] <edward> yes kev dog
[06:32] <therealnanotube> AbsZero: or you could encrypt it... but that's going beyond just requiring a password from a random user who plops down at your computer. :)
[06:32] <edward> and it comes up as eth2
[06:32] <alex_> ugh
[06:32] <edward> heres my modprobe.d/blacklist : http://paste.ubuntu.com/112662/
[06:32] <alex_> ubuntu mysql is blocking my binary install
[06:33] <therealnanotube> AbsZero: and of course if you go with chown, don't forget to chmod it to go-rwx
[06:33] <alex_> i need to access the mysql connector files
[06:33] <alex_> where does Ubuntu store them?
[06:33] <alex_> where does ubuntu put the Ubuntu mysql install?
[06:33] <eMaX> moin
[06:33] <AbsZero> I suppose a random user wouldn't know enough to use the chown command to change it back to me as a user...and even if they did, they don't know my sudo password.
[06:34] <Kevdog> edward: Why not use the bcm43xx drivers?
[06:34] <dou213> how can i check what rights are on a specific folder? lsattr is only for files
[06:34] <AbsZero> chmod go-rwx changes the permissions to what, all? Read, write, execute...And is that all?
[06:34] <rakudave> AbsZero: that's a possibility, but as soon as someone walks by with a live-cd, you're dead.
[06:35] <AbsZero> rakudave: Probably not going to happen. I just don't want my room-mates being able to see and read password sets for various email accounts and websites, or other personal information.
[06:35] <alex_> so, how does Ubuntu handle mysql
[06:35] <alex_> it seems i can't find any configuration files related to it
[06:35] <therealnanotube> AbsZero: that changes permissions so only root can access it. thus, you need root password to access it.
[06:35] <dou213> AbsZero, chmod go-rwx takes all rights from group and others
[06:36] <AbsZero> And I can change that at will as long as I know my own password...?
[06:36] <Quintok> Is there a way to uninstall every package except the packages that are installed on a fresh ubuntu install?  I was trying to use the ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-standard meta-packages but they don't include everything (ie firefox) that was installed by default.  Is there a meta-package I'm missing?
[06:36] <therealnanotube> AbsZero: but as rakudave says, that's fairly trivial to circumvent, if the attacker has physical access to the machine. the only "sure" way is encryption.
[06:36] <edward> cuz i was getting the same issue with not automatically turning on wireless networking and detecting networks i have to run this command upon start: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112663/    in order to get internet
[06:37] <edward> and it has to be pasted like that
[06:37] <dou213> how can i check what rights are on a specific folder? lsattr is only for files
[06:37] <edward> and done twice
[06:37] <temppy> Quintok: well, I don't know about uninstallation, but I can give you a command to install some of those defaults
[06:37] <edward> or the adapter just wont start
[06:37] <therealnanotube> AbsZero: for something as important as your passwords, i'd suggest encryption. you could do truecrypt, or use a specially-for-passwords program to store them (i use 'revelation' to store all my passwords - it encrypts them and has a nice interface for storing user account info)
[06:38] <Kevdog> edward: Oh -- well in that case you are telling me you are using the wl driver -- and everything works after typing those commands?
[06:38] <Quintok> temppy: thanks, I can probably work it out from there using synaptic
[06:38] <alex_> sudo apt-get removing mysql-server removes nothing.
[06:38] <edward> yea it works
[06:38] <alex_> but when i type mysql, a ubuntu mysql thing pops up
[06:38] <bullgard4> How can I find cuesheet files on my Ubuntu 8.04.2 computer?
[06:38] <edward> after i type that in
[06:38] <alex_> what is wrong with this stupid operating system
[06:38] <Kevdog> AbsZero: Go for truecrypt
[06:38] <edward> and only then does it work
[06:38] <temppy> Quintok: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[06:38] <dou213> therealnanotube, can i get revelation on my ubuntu-server box?
[06:39] <AbsZero> I'll have a look-see at TrueCrypt I guess.
[06:39] <dou213> alex_, sudo apt-get remove...
[06:39] <alex_> i just did that
[06:39] <therealnanotube> dou213: you mean no gui, console-only?
[06:39] <edward> im so frustrated Kevdog :(
[06:39] <alex_> and it removes 0 package 0 update yada yada
[06:39] <dou213> therealnanotube, y
[06:39] <Kevdog> edward: I take it that you can't just type sudo modprobe wl to make everything work correct?
[06:39] <alex_> and i type mysql and it's still around
[06:39] <alex_> why does ubuntu FORCE it's own mysql on me?
[06:39] <edward> no
[06:39] <edward> the last line
[06:39] <therealnanotube> dou213: in that case, no... it's a gnome-gui prog
[06:39] <edward> starts the scan
[06:39] <edward> for ssid's
[06:40] <therealnanotube> dou213: i guess your best bet for cli is truecrypt, afaik it works fine in cli mode
[06:40] <edward> i dont mind typing it..things would just be smoother than having to type my pw everyboot up
[06:40] <dou213> alex_, try sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server
[06:40] <dou213> but caution: it will del all config files regarding mysql
[06:40] <alex_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:41] <dou213> therealnanotube, afaik?
[06:41] <dou213> !afaik
[06:41] <Kevdog> edward: Hold on -- don't despair -- you just need to tell me what exactly you can't do -- there is a fix!
[06:41] <Quintok> alex_ perhaps remove mysql-server-5.0 ?
[06:41] <dou213> alex_, try to stop the service first maybe... see if that's running
[06:41] <edward> see one the connection manager has wired netowork then wireless network underneath
[06:42] <edward> unless i run that command 'wireless networks' doesnt come up
[06:42] <Quintok> temppy: thank you
[06:42] <Kevdog> edward: Speak in english -- what do you want to do -- and what isn't working -- dont cry
[06:43] <therealnanotube> dou213: afaik = as far as i know :)
[06:43] <temppy> np
[06:43] <dou213> therealnanotube, lol :)
[06:43] <edward> i want to get my networkadapter working properly! everytime i boot up i have to type in those commands for it to work
[06:43] <alex_> I don't see any process that looks remotely like Mysql
[06:43] <alex_> in the System Moniter
[06:43] <therealnanotube> dou213: hehe :)
[06:43] <edward> i dont wanna have to go through those cmds everytime i want internets!
[06:43] <Name141> is it possible to get a shipit disk of 8.04.2 ?
[06:43] <Kevdog> edward: Ok, what if you just type in sudo modprobe wl instead of all those commands -- does it work?
[06:44] <Name141> Or do I just upgrade 8.04 LTS
[06:44] <edward> im going to reboot
[06:44] <edward> and test it, i dont think so
[06:44] <Quintok> alex_, it won't be in the system monitor unless you go to view-> all processes
[06:44] <Kevdog> edward: This isn't windows -- you don't need to do that!!!
[06:44] <kj4> hello buntus
[06:44] <dou213> can somebody tell me how to check for directory attributes?
[06:45] <Kevdog> I prefer bunts
[06:45] <Kevdog> ls -la
[06:45] <edward> Kevdog i know but thats the only way to see if the adapter is going to initialize itself!
[06:45] <dou213> nevermind, ls -la
[06:45] <dou213> oh thx :)
[06:45] <alex_> all the mysql stuff is sleeping
[06:46] <Quintok> alex_, did you try remove mysql-server-5.0 as well as mysql-server via apt?
[06:46] <edward> cuz thats my problem, it wont initialize itself upon startup
[06:46] <Kevdog> edward: What does lshw -C network show when you first boot up?
[06:47] <edward> 2 minutes
[06:47] <edward> going to boot up
[06:47] <edward> and tell u
[06:47] <Kevdog> edward: NO --- what does it show now!
[06:47] <edward> ooh ok
[06:48] <Kevdog> edward: quit rebooting -- this isnt windows!
[06:48] <Kevdog> edward: Don't ever reboot! ---
[06:48] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: lol
[06:48] <alex_> ending the processes in the system monitor just crashes system monitor
[06:48] <Name141> "Ubuntu is available free of charge and we can send you a CD of the latest version (8.10 (Intrepid Ibex))"
[06:48] <Name141> Bah
[06:48] <alex_> is there ANYTHING in ubuntu that works :/
[06:48] <edward> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112667/    Kevdog
[06:48] <Kevdog> edward: Don't ever reboot! --- Ok may that is extreme!
[06:48] <Name141> Not possible to get 8.04.2 ?
[06:49] <Kevdog> lshw -C network
[06:49] <Depressed> rakudave
[06:49] <Name141> if I download 8.04.2 , will I be able to burn to DVD?
[06:49] <Name141> I have no CD-Rs
[06:49] <Quintok> alex_, did you try remove mysql-server-5.0 as well as mysql-server via apt?
[06:49] <alex_> yes it fails
[06:49] <Kevdog> edward: lshw -C network
[06:49] <alex_> having trouble shutting down mysql
[06:49] <gaara> i wanna use gtalk in linux for voip
[06:49] <alex_> and i try to shut down from system monitor and all it does is CRASH
[06:49] <usser> Name141, nope, but do you have a usb stick?
[06:49] <gaara> does ANYONE know how to do that?
[06:49] <edward> Kevdog http://paste.ubuntu.com/112669/
[06:49] <Name141> usser: no
[06:50] <usser> Name141, ah, well theres ubuntu dvd images
[06:50] <krz22> hi! how can I restrict a repository to get only one specific package from that repository while doing apt-get upgrade ?
[06:50] <Name141> usser: isn't there a DVD version somewhere?
[06:50] <usser> Name141, you can burn that
[06:50] <Name141> copy
[06:50] <Quintok> alex_, did someone else mention trying sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop ?
[06:50] <Name141> usser: Where do I find that
[06:50] <bullgard4> How can I find cuesheet files on my Ubuntu 8.04.2 computer?
[06:51] <Kevdog> edward: This is very important -- Look at what you pasted -- and look for the section that states driver=wl  -- that is the driver you are currently using.  I have a feeling on boot it is probably something else, such as b43
[06:51] <therealnanotube> krz22: easiest way, if you are targeting only one package, is not to do an apt-get upgrade. :)
[06:51] <therealnanotube> krz22: just do an apt-get install for that particular package.
[06:51] <usser> Name141, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#dvd
[06:51] <alex_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[06:51] <krz22> therealnanotube: thx, will try that
[06:51] <Kevdog> edward: Reboot now -- and then take a look at what it states is the driver!
[06:52] <edward> before i type cmd correct?
[06:52] <suigeneris> hello
[06:52] <Kevdog> edward: yes, I just need to know the driver its being assigned on boot before you mess with it!
[06:52] <edward> ok
[06:53] <edward> brb
[06:53] <krz22> therealnanotube: thx again, it works! though, I'm still puzzled why I have to install when I want to upgrade :)
[06:53] <suigeneris> how can i create a user *without* home directory, aside from editing adduser.conf?
[06:53] <therealnanotube> krz22: well, you are installing the latest version of the package... :)
[06:53] <Name141> usser: The latest DVD version seems to be 8.04.1
[06:53] <therealnanotube> krz22: glad it worked out for you :)
[06:54] <dblitz> hello everyone .. I am having a problem installing pidgin on my system. I did an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 and since I did that something happened to pidgin
[06:54] <alex_> ugh is there anything that is useful for developers in ubuntu?
[06:54] <alex_> i've been trying and trying
[06:54] <dblitz> It tells me that I can't install pidgin because of it won't install libpurple0
[06:54] <alex_> and ubuntu just sucks
[06:54] <jedi007> in my themes it says this theme will not look as intended becuase the required GTK + theme engine 'ubunutulooks' is not installed
[06:54] <usser> Name141, no theres intrepid are u in the US?
[06:54] <dblitz> does anyone know how to get around this ?
[06:54] <sockets> alex_ what do you mean by useful?
[06:54] <Name141> usser: I also don't have the bandwith to download 3.9 GBs
[06:54] <alex_> like.. i want to install my own mysql from binary
[06:54] <Name141> usser: is it not possible to turn the CD version in to a DVD
[06:54] <alex_> and get rid of the crap that comes with ubuntu
[06:55] <alex_> their own mysql crap
[06:55] <usser> Name141, you can try, although i'
[06:56] <usser> Name141, i've never done it
[06:56] <Kevdog> dblitz: The only way I know how is possibly to uninstall pidgin and then reinstall? or compile from source!
[06:56] <krz22> suigeneris: use adduser with --no-create-home
[06:56] <usser> Name141, you can try mounting the iso somewhere and making a dvd/udf image
[06:56] <dblitz> O
[06:56] <sockets> alex_ what's wrong with it? maybe the learning curve (which isn't steep at all) is bothering you. you can make most *nix stuff compatible with ubuntu (since it's a *nix system itself)
[06:57] <Kevdog> dblitz: Upgrades do funny things sometimes like this :)
[06:57] <dblitz> cause I think that since I did the update it did something with pidgin cause I installed ubuntu fresh on my other system and pidgin works fine
[06:57] <dblitz> Yeah I figured
[06:57] <usser> Name141, use mkisofs -udf image.iso /path/to/mounted/cdrom
[06:57] <Name141> usser: my computers are all windows right now
[06:57] <usser> Name141, arggh
[06:57] <usser> hehe
[06:57] <dblitz> I may just clean up this system and do a fresh install
[06:57] <alex_> the way you get rid of packages is retarded
[06:57] <Name141> and 8.10 I don't like
[06:57] <wolter> If i wanted to install blender from the repos to have it all detected on my computer, but at the same time have the latest version of it, could i just replace all the contents with those that you can download from the site?
[06:57] <dblitz> Cause I don't like having my system work like this...
[06:58] <sockets> dblitz
[06:58] <sockets> what's wrong with it?
[06:58] <Kevdog> dblitz: Do whatever you want, if you need to compile from source -- I have an easy guide to do this!
[06:58] <sockets> dblitz : www.getdeb.net - has pidgin 2.5.4 in *.deb format
[06:59] <edward> Kevdog: heres the what u asked for +startup http://paste.ubuntu.com/112673/
[06:59]  * Kevdog shudders at the old getdeb solution -- but that is just me!
[06:59] <jedi007> in my themes it says this theme will not look as intended becuase the required GTK + theme engine 'ubunutulooks' is not installed
[06:59] <usser> Name141, i don't know how to do this on windows
[06:59] <jedi007> did someone see what i said
[06:59] <jedi007> how do i install theme engine ubuntulooks
[07:00] <Kevdog> edward: so it is trying to load the b43 on startup -- that is a competing driver.  Here is what I want you to try:
[07:00] <edward> ah
[07:00] <datakid> hi, is the bash command "ls -d" meant to "just list the directories" ? I am getting an empty result in a folder that has almost a dozen...
[07:00] <Kevdog> edward: echo 'blacklist b43' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[07:00] <edward> i believe the one im trying to install is the optimal one for my adapter tho LInksys WMP300N, read it on the forums
[07:01] <sockets> dblitz, in synaptic manager, if you change "settings/repositories" goto "updates" tab, and choose "unsupported updates" it will automatically show pidgin updates available up until 2.5.2
[07:01] <sockets> and you can easily update too
[07:01] <Kevdog> edward: And is wl isn't in the /etc/modules, echo wl | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[07:01] <nomingoo> hi all, new to linux. installed it on my flash drive and works fine. then after a while, it no longer wants to store any more data. won't log chats, won't buffer videos from the net or save history, anyone seen this before?
[07:02] <edward> ok
[07:03] <edward> should i try rebooting now?
[07:04] <Kevdog> edward: sure go ahead -- and if it doesnt work I got one more solution
[07:04] <edward> alrighty, ty really appreciate the help
[07:04] <edward> brb
[07:04] <goodmami> how do i manually turn on my lcd backlight?
[07:05] <goodmami> it seem intrepid turned it off when i setup an external monitor
[07:05] <jedi007> when you install a them where does it go?
[07:05] <jedi007> theme*
[07:05] <sockets> you guys that setup a network printer, how exactly does that work? if i have 3 computers can i just print from any one of them or does a "host" pc have to be connected to the printer and TURNED ON?
[07:05] <goodmami> (note: it's a laptop lcd that has lost it's backlight)
[07:06] <bullgard4> How can I find cuesheet files on my Ubuntu 8.04.2 computer?
[07:06] <Basket1234> Does anyone know an issue with amd 64 bit processors and ubuntu freezing?  I am not able to get to the login screen and it freezes at multiple spots
[07:06] <mavsman4457> How do I update gnome-do to the latest version?
[07:06] <Basket1234> I also have tried all kinds of ubuntu versions
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> sockets: Depends on your setup.  Some printers have the networking built in.  If not, then you need some kind of print server to be connected and turned on, which can either be a PC or a specialized embedded device.
[07:07] <goodmami> cat /proc/acpi/video/VID/LCD0/brightness says it's at 100 brightness, which is wrong
[07:07] <mavsman4457> i don't think ubuntu supports it yet so i can't update through the software updater
[07:07] <nomingoo> sock, network printers can use a server/host comp, but don't need it. just have it turned on and know its ip address
[07:07] <bullgard4> mavsman4457: Use Synaptic.
[07:07] <rdw200169> mavsman4457, use the gnome-do PPA on launchpad.net
[07:08] <nomingoo> lol has anyone dealt with flashdrive ubuntu before? need some help
[07:08] <rdw200169> bullgard4, mavsman4457, you want .8 right?  i was talking to someone earlier that said the ubuntu repo's only had .6 for intrepid
[07:08] <nomingoo> can't save any more files inside linux but the drive isn't full itself!
[07:08] <rdw200169> !info gnome-do
[07:08] <sockets> thanks nomingoo & tonyarusso
[07:09] <goodmami> can anybody help, please? laptop lcd backlight is off... i don't know how to turn it on
[07:09] <edward> Kevdog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/112676/
[07:09] <nomingoo> np, now if only someone helped me lol
[07:09] <mavsman4457> rdw200169 ya i want .8
[07:09] <edward> didnt work
[07:09] <mavsman4457> will that do the trick to do what you said?
[07:09] <Basket1234> Is there a way to find out what is causing the freezing?
[07:10] <rdw200169> mavsman4457, yes, lemme get you a link right quick
[07:10] <Kevdog_> edward: Is wl mentioned in /etc/modules?
[07:11] <edward> how do i check that again, sorry
[07:11] <rdw200169> mavsman4457, https://launchpad.net/~do-core/+archive/ppa
[07:12] <jedi007> HELLO it my theme says it won't look right becuase gtk engine ubuntulooks isn't installed where do i get that how do i know its the right one?
[07:12] <Kevdog_> edward: cat /etc/modules | more  (Use space bar to get to next page)
[07:12] <bnagy> hey, dumb-sounding question - apt-get installed irssi but it doesn't show up as a command, nor is it in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[07:13] <jedi007> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Slickness+Black?content=73210  it is this theme
[07:13] <edward> no wl isnt mentioned
[07:13] <Kevdog_> bnagy: sudo update db; locate irssi
[07:13] <bnagy> k 2 secs
[07:13] <sockets> nomingoo, you said that you installed ubuntu on a flash driver and it won't read/write to it anymore right?.. can you boot into it?
[07:13] <Kevdog_> edward: do the following: echo wl | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[07:13] <nomingoo> im in it right now lol
[07:13] <sockets> drive*
[07:14] <rww> bnagy: irssi should install to /usr/bin/ =/
[07:14] <bnagy> update command not found - but I did find / -name irssi already
[07:14] <edward> done
[07:14] <Kevdog_> edward: Is blacklist b43 mentioned in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[07:14] <nomingoo> i didn't say read/write, it won't save things like chat logs, firefox history(greys out back button), flash videos or install new programs
[07:15] <bnagy> rww: yeah, that's what I thought. :( man pages are there and apt thinks it is installed
[07:15] <Kevdog_> sorry sudo updatedb
[07:15] <rww> bnagy: That's odd. What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[07:15] <edward> yes kevdog
[07:15] <bnagy> 8.1 but netbook remix thingy
[07:16] <sockets> nomingoo is it through live cd?
[07:16] <edward> its there, i put it there myself Kevdog
[07:17] <mavsman4457> rdw200169 should i add those sources as two different lines?
[07:17] <nomingoo> i think its a modified version of the live cd, like something about a persistent connection to the drive
[07:17] <ph0t0nix> Hi all, I'm running 8.10 here and I wanted to change the ownership of a file in ~/public_html to www-data (since it contains MySQL login credentials), but chgrp/chown tells me that the operation is not permitted. Why?
[07:17] <bullgard4> How can I find cuesheet files on my Ubuntu 8.04.2 computer?
[07:17] <edward> reboot?
[07:18] <rdw200169> mavsman4457, you don't have to, you only need the deb line, not the deb-src line; the second gives you the option to download the source code.
[07:18] <Kevdog_> edward: Here is what I want you to cut and paste to command line: echo -e '#wl/ssb/b43 workaround, added' `date` '\ninstall wl modprobe -r b43 b44 b43legacy ssb; modprobe --ignore-install wl $CMDLINE_OPTS; modprobe ssb; modprobe b44;' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/wl
[07:18] <bnagy> Kevdog_: yeah millions of entries but none in anything that looks like bin
[07:18] <bnagy> there is usr/share/menu/irssi
[07:18] <sockets> nomingoo did it work before? or did it just stop randomly? i'm looking up stuff and ubuntu via USB Flash Drive has this warning : "This method is non-persistant so it won't save any changes you make while running Ubuntu in the LiveCD mode"
[07:18] <edward> done
[07:19] <ph0t0nix> bullgard4: use the find of locate command.
[07:19] <bnagy> but that's just a menu entry looks like
[07:19] <rdw200169> bullgard4, you mean .cue files?
[07:19] <rdw200169> ph0t0nix, bullgard4 i agree w/ him, the locate command can do it
[07:19] <Kevdog_> can you paste contents of /etc/modprobe.d/wl?
[07:19] <rww> ph0t0nix: chgrp and chown generally need to be run with administrative privileges. Try sudo chown.
[07:20] <bnagy> bizarre everything says it should be in usr/bin but it aint there....
[07:20] <rww> bnagy: sudo apt-get purge irssi && sudo apt-get install irssi
[07:20] <rww> bnagy: that'll reinstall it; might help
[07:20] <Kevdog_> rww: Ill +1 that!
[07:20] <edward> using, cat right Kevdog?
[07:20] <ari_stress> wb bazhang
[07:20] <bnagy> I tried reinstalling it already ... but not with purge, good idea...
[07:20] <snow_ru> peridot, hello
[07:20] <ph0t0nix> rww: I could do that on my local machine, but how could I secure the files when putting them on a remote server I don't have the root pw of?
[07:20] <Kevdog_> edward: sure
[07:20]  * snow_ru slaps peridot
[07:20] <bullgard4> ph0t0nix, rdw200169: Do all cuesheets have the '.cue' extension?
[07:20] <edward> edward@eddieP:~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/wl
[07:20] <edward> #wl/ssb/b43 workaround, added Mon Feb 2 02:18:51 EST 2009
[07:20] <edward> install wl modprobe -r b43 b44 b43legacy ssb; modprobe --ignore-install wl $CMDLINE_OPTS; modprobe ssb; modprobe b44;
[07:21]  * snow_ru slaps peridot on his face
[07:21] <rww> ph0t0nix: If you don't have administrative access, you can't change the user/group of a file, afaik.
[07:21] <ph0t0nix> bullgard4: That depends on how they were created, I'd say. But probably yes
[07:21] <rdw200169> bullgard4, i don't know, heck, i don't even know what exactly a cuesheet is!  i was guessing...
[07:21] <nomingoo> yeah it worked before, watched several episodes of my show. then it stopped, i've tried rebooting. and my mode does save changes btw...
[07:21] <rww> ph0t0nix: I could be wrong about that, though.
[07:21] <bnagy>  rww: newp, still no luck
[07:21] <Kevdog_> edward: reboot -- Ill be shocked if this doesn't work!
[07:21] <edward> haha, ok Kevdog
[07:22] <bullgard4> ph0t0nix, rdw200169: Thank you very much for your help.
[07:22] <rww> bnagy: copy the output of "apt-cache policy irssi" to http://paste.ubuntu.com/, then put a link to the created page here.
[07:22] <ph0t0nix> bullgard4: You're welcome
[07:22] <TheOrz> VLC is SO SLOW OMG it's hell to use
[07:22] <TheOrz> What is with the unresponsive VLC GUI?
[07:22] <nomingoo> awww, bye kevdog
[07:23] <bnagy> rww it's only two lines....
[07:23] <Kevdog_> bye
[07:23] <nomingoo> oh, it said u quit lol
[07:23] <nomingoo> someone took ur name lol, ohhh, no underscore :P
[07:23] <rww> bnagy: oh. Just paste it here then (I'm not on Ubuntu right now; forgot how long/short it was)
[07:23] <sockets> nomingoo - you're using intrepid (8.10) right?
[07:23] <bnagy>         500 http://debian.nctu.edu.tw intrepid/main Packages
[07:23] <bnagy>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[07:23] <nomingoo> i think so, dunno how to check
[07:24] <sockets> system / about ubuntu
[07:24] <edward> Kevdog
[07:24] <edward> YOU ARE THE MAN!
[07:24] <sockets> should say something like "take you for your interest in ubuntu #.##"
[07:24] <itai> hi, i have a USB stick that can't seem to use , ubuntu says permissions cannot be determined, i pasted the fdisk -l here :http://paste.ubuntu.com/112680/
[07:24] <bnagy> installed and candidate 0.8.12-4ubuntu2
[07:25] <edward> Kevdog, seriously appreciate it thank you
[07:25] <nomingoo> oh, i think technically i have xubuntu, kev, so i don't have that option...
[07:25] <arvind_khadri> itai, try plugging it into some other port
[07:25] <khmer42> What's the easiest way to allow for Windows style roaming profiles and active directory in a linux network?
[07:25] <ph0t0nix> rww: I guess you're right. I tried it on a Debian machine and no luck there either.
[07:25] <nomingoo> i mean sockets, read it wrong
[07:26] <rdw200169> khmer42, you mean like a Single Sign-On type thing?
[07:26] <nomingoo> ugh, brain is as screwy as my flashdrive tonite lol
[07:26] <KevDog> edward: See I said I would be shock if it didn't work -- so I'm not shocked right now :)
[07:26] <edward> haha thanks!
[07:26] <rww> !samba | khmer42
[07:26] <edward> u really helped me out
[07:26] <nomingoo> good work kevdog
[07:26] <KevDog> later - I'm out -- happy trials to everyone!
[07:26] <rww> bnagy: hrm. that looks fine too.
[07:27]  * KevDog says GOODNIGHT!
[07:27] <nomingoo> no guesses at my prob kev?
[07:27] <bnagy> rww: it didn't seem to delete the package when I purged... maybe I can try that and/por use a different repo?
[07:27] <itai> arvind_khadri, nope,,, gaprted  doesn't let me do anything with it, not even format
[07:27] <bnagy> I never used debian before today, so I am clueless about apt
[07:27] <rww> bnagy: yeah, I guess
[07:27] <nomingoo> dang lol
[07:27] <arvind_khadri> itai, did you try a different port?
[07:27] <bnagy> debian ubuntu whatever
[07:27] <itai> arvind_khadri, yes
[07:28] <nomingoo> oh well, guess im just gonna have to do this the old fashion way and install to my hard drive...
[07:28] <edward> alright question, im switching from xp/vista machines and noticed that when i download movies the picture it awful
[07:28] <edward> sup w/ that
[07:28] <arvind_khadri> itai, ok... so cant you format it using the CLI?
[07:28] <khmer42> rdw200169: Yes, and also a home folder which is located on the server.
[07:28] <jedi007> ok i'm getting this theme will not look as intended becuase the required GTK+ theme engine " is not installed
[07:28] <itai> arvind_khadri, how?
[07:29] <arvind_khadri> itai, jus a second
[07:29] <jedi007> what engine is "
[07:29] <rdw200169> khmer42, ah, you want to google on some pretty obfuscated stuff; it *is* possible though, in several different ways
[07:29] <sockets> nomingoo no luck finding someone with your problem =/, if you plan on trying again i guess check out these guides : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent  &  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ubuntu-810-persistent-flash-drive-install-from-live-cd/
[07:29] <tv7497> bazhang: hello sir
[07:30] <arvind_khadri> itai, for formatting in gparted, the disk/stick needs to be unmounted, just in case if you didnt know
[07:30] <rdw200169> khmer42, OpenLDAP = Active Directory; Kerebos provides 'SSO', NFS provides Remote home folders
[07:30] <rdw200169> khmer42, these suggestions are by far the most used, but they are not the only possible means
[07:30] <itai> arvind_khadri, didn't know...let me try
[07:31] <arvind_khadri> itai, that will work :)
[07:31] <bullgard4> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode: "This mode just loads some basic services." What services does it load and what services does it not load?
[07:32] <khmer42> rdw200169: Thanks
[07:32] <tv7497> guys does vmware act like an x64 system can it emulate an x64 system unlike vbox only x86
[07:32] <itai> arvind_khadri, but i still get an error : unable to open /dev/sbd read-write
[07:33] <halycon> Does anyone know how to make the entire gnome panel transparent?
[07:33] <rdw200169> khmer42, heres one link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SingleSignOn
[07:33] <arvind_khadri> itai, have you got permissions to do so? are you the only user of this machine?
[07:33] <nomingoo> thnx socks! :)
[07:34] <rdw200169> khmer42, and the other: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[07:34] <sockets> tv7497.. i have a 64 bit virtual machine w/ vbox
[07:34] <itai> arvind_khadri, yes,,,i guess there is something wrong with this usb cause i can format other usb sticks
[07:34] <Shakedown> Can I get Java 3D from APT? Or do I need to manually download it from Sun?
[07:35] <arvind_khadri> itai, maybe...
[07:35] <arvind_khadri> itai, does gparted detect your stick?
[07:35] <tv7497> sockets: sir does it support upto 8gb of ram vbox if i have an 64 bit freebsd ?
[07:35] <itai> arvind_khadri, yes ,so does nautilus, but i doesnt allow me to do anything with it except view
[07:36] <sockets> tv7497, THAT i don't know.. since i only have 2 gigs of ram to work with altogether
[07:36] <nomingoo> There is not enough room on the disk to save /tmp/6QgY+nRU.bin.part
[07:36] <hellhound_> what program do I use in Ubuntu 8.10 to do error correction on a disk?  For example i accidentally unplugged a removable device and when I did this in the past I would simply go to windows and use their tool and I could use the removable disk again, but is there one in ubuntu?
[07:36] <nomingoo> any idea how i clean that up?
[07:36] <arvind_khadri> itai, to which point does the stick mount???
[07:37] <tv7497> sockets: will give it a try and let you know sir cause last time i tried vbox for an x64 vista it didnt work
[07:37] <itai> arvind_khadri, /media/disc
[07:37] <itai> disk...
[07:38] <arvind_khadri> itai, ok ls -l /media/disk
[07:38] <arvind_khadri> itai, whats the output?
[07:39] <itai> arvind_khadri, -rwx------ 1 itai root<PHONE_NUMBER>-06-22 19:19 DSCF8930.JPG
[07:39] <tv7497> sockets: sir how do i check is my system a 64 bit ?
[07:39] <sockets> tv7497, good luck! try vbox 2.1.2 (not OSE)
[07:39] <Shakedown> Can I get Java 3D from APT? Or do I need to manually download it from Sun?
[07:39] <mmm4m5m> question: found two empty directories in 'lost+found'. Did I lost anything important? Can I ignore this fact?
[07:40] <nomingoo> ugh, my flashdrive definitely isn't full but linux keeps thinking it is still, anyone know how to clean up junk files?
[07:40] <arvind_khadri> itai, ok. werent you able to unmount and format it in gparted?
[07:40] <itai> arvind_khadri, unable
[07:41] <arvind_khadri> itai, what error do you get?
[07:41] <sockets> tv7497, well if you're in vista check control panel, system (should show info).. are you asking about your CPU or your OS?
[07:41] <bullgard4> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode: "This mode just loads some basic services." What services does it load and what services does it not load?
[07:42] <nomingoo> does anyone know how to clean up temporary files or at least where linux saves them?
[07:42] <itai> arvind_khadri, that the filesystem is read-only
[07:42] <sockets> nomingoo tmp folder in root
[07:42] <tv7497> sockets: sir i am in ubuntu 8.10 x64 its working pretty well i was asking about my cpu is there a way to check it
[07:43] <rdw200169> BULLE, /etc/rcS.d/
[07:43] <rdw200169> bullgard4, /etc/rcS.d/ (darn xchat autocomplete)
[07:43] <Mean_Admin> apart from the obvious, what would "cp: cannot stat `/media/timevault/Music.backuptmp/': No such file or directory" mean ?
[07:44] <mmm4m5m> tv7497: I am not expert but: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' > pastebin
[07:44] <nomingoo> i can't see any files in root...
[07:44] <nsgn> goodevening. how might i get information from the command prompt on the type of network adapter attached to my machine?
[07:44] <arvind_khadri> itai, but you should be able to unmount it ....
[07:44] <nomingoo> i click file system, root, nothing there i mean
[07:44] <arvind_khadri> itai, anyways hang on for a sec
[07:45] <ph0t0nix> nsgn: try lspci
[07:45] <itai> arvind_khadri, i think the disc is dead..because i just tried the same procedure with another and it was fine
[07:45] <nsgn> ph0t0nix: thank you...that hit the nail on the head
[07:45] <arvind_khadri> itai, oh maybe... which ubuntu btw?
[07:46] <sockets> tv7497 : in terminal : grep flags /proc/cpuinfo - if you see a " lm " then it's a 64 bit CPU
[07:46] <hellhound_> what program do I use in Ubuntu 8.10 to do error correction on a disk?  For example i accidentally unplugged a removable device and when I did this in the past I would simply go to windows and use their tool and I could use the removable disk again, but is there one in ubuntu?
[07:46] <jedi007> HELLO it my theme says it won't look right becuase gtk engine ubuntulooks isn't installed, so i installed gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks 0.9.12-12 and now it says "theme may not look right becuase the required GTK+ theme engine '' is not installed.
[07:46] <itai> arvind_khadri, hardy
[07:46] <tv7497> mmm4m5m: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112684/
[07:46] <jedi007> what do you got to say about that?
[07:47] <sockets> nomingo, in your file system is there a "tmp" folder? (where the bin, usr folders are)
[07:47] <bullgard4> rdw200169: Why do you mwntion this directory? It contains 20 softlinks whose names begin with S.
[07:47] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: depends on the file system on the disk
[07:47] <mmm4m5m> tv7497: I am not expert. Check what sockets told you.
[07:47]  * mmm4m5m looks it is 64
[07:47] <tv7497> mmm4m5m: okie sir
[07:48] <nomingoo> yeah, but its 380b only...
[07:48] <rdw200169> bullgard4, that is the single user mode directory for sysvinit (upstart not) that boots the system.  the kernel is booted into 'single user mode' from /boot/grub/menu.lst for 'recovery mode'
[07:48] <tv7497> sockets: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112685/
[07:48] <rdw200169> bullgard4, *now upstart
[07:48] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: how can i tell?  (I can read the disk right now)
[07:49] <rdw200169> bullgard4, so, if you look at those scripts, symlinked to /etc/init.d/ you will know what processes are started while in 'recovery mode'
[07:49] <sockets> tv7497 "yscall nx lm cons" yeah you have a 64bit OS
[07:49] <sockets> CPU*
[07:49] <mmm4m5m> anyone please: I have two empty directories in 'lost+found'. What to do?
[07:49] <Mean_Admin> does the dot after 'backup.1/'  mean anything special in          cp -al backup.1/. backup.0       ?
[07:49] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: you could use fdisk -l to find out the partition types on the disk
[07:49] <tv7497> sockets: wow so now i can run a 64 bit guest on vbox sir ?
[07:49] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: (has to be run as root, iirc)
[07:49] <arvind_khadri> itai, http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/format-external-drive-for-linux/ try this
[07:50] <bullgard4> rdw200169: Ah! Thank you very much for explaining.
[07:50] <itai> arvind_khadri, thanks
[07:50] <sockets> tv7497, like i said - download vbox 2.1.2 (not the open source edition, i don't know what it's missing but it just use the full one), i did the same and i have windows xp x64 as a guest (virtual machine) operating system
[07:50] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: ok it is W95 FAT32
[07:51] <arvind_khadri> itai, do let me know if it works :) but i too feel that the disk may be gone..
[07:51] <error404notfound> is there a way to dump a categorized list of all packages as they are shown in aptitude?
[07:51] <itai> i have another problem on hardy - can't mount floppy- can anyone assist?
[07:51] <nomingoo> anyone know of a ccleaner equivalent?
[07:51] <sockets> tv7497, maybe vista isn't supported? because i know 64 bit support is still a work in progress but my windows xp VM works perfect, i can't check the ram issue though since i don't have that much ram to begin with
[07:52] <ortsvorsteher> !floppy | itai