[03:12] <Pirate_Hunter> Uboy, I understand what you mean but what people don't take into consideration is the learning curve and the experience, the longer you use it the less you'll need to reformat it, heck even I had to reformat my system a couple times as a beginner
[03:12] <Uboy> rpgsimmaster yes
[03:12] <deserteagle> hmm... ok how about this: how do I change the permissions on a mounted drive?
[03:13] <cntrational> it's generally a good idea to format after your system's gotten cluttered <.<
[03:13] <Uboy> ok. Guys I reformat my linux
[03:13] <sebsebseb> cntrational: or has the wrong driver installed
[03:13] <rpgsimmaster> Yes
[03:13] <Pirate_Hunter> rpgsimmaster, i'll let you take over this is too much fo my skills and suggesting chroot willl be harder than it seems
[03:13] <sebsebseb> Uboy: finally :)
[03:13] <rpgsimmaster> Does anyone know how to rebuild a Software RAID array from Ubuntu live CD?
[03:13] <sebsebseb> Uboy: oh if you set up a seperate /home when you install
[03:13] <Uboy> sebsebseb and other guys thanks for Helping
[03:13] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and there is a reason to re install in the future, makes it much easier
[03:13] <wise_crypt> Uboy: OS (operating system ) is just a tools it depends on how you use it :)
[03:13] <wise_crypt> *tool
[03:14] <cntrational> you could always just setup a /home partition
[03:14] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: want to tell him how to do that? sepereate home befoer installing,  I do want to go away from computer :)
[03:14] <cntrational> that'd make formatting much easier
[03:14] <sebsebseb> cntrational: yeah /  /home and swap
[03:14] <sebsebseb> cntrational: exactly
[03:14] <Pirate_Hunter> Uboy, I know it is not what you want to hear but at this point it ms the best option and please stay away from that page unless you're sure it actually works. do me a favour when you log in to your new system type this command sudo lshw > hardware-info.txt
[03:14] <soadkombucha> sebsebseb: You don't do a /boot?
[03:15] <Uboy> sebsebseb my /home is in another Partition1
[03:15] <sebsebseb> cntrational: and his swap will be ok,  but he will need to get rid of /
[03:15] <soadkombucha> sebsebseb: I make a 100MB partition for /boot so all my kernels are alone
[03:15] <cntrational> yup
[03:15] <soadkombucha> Uboy: then you could reinstall
[03:15] <sebsebseb> soadkombucha: no need to do seperate /boot untill its  well I guess still need it for XFS, and need it for the optional btrfs  support in development versions of 10.10
[03:15] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, nope cause it will take longer and I dont even know what system they have as far as I can tell a reformat is the best option
[03:15] <sebsebseb> soadkombucha: unless its, above
[03:15] <cntrational> /boot?
[03:15] <soadkombucha> sebsebseb: I like having my kernels separately. Plus it's the first partition on my disk.
[03:16] <sebsebseb> Uboy: Ubuntu is teh only OS on the computer?  no Windows?
[03:16] <soadkombucha> sebsebseb: And I have a 500GB HDD I didn't want my linux partition too large. I have 15GB root, 5GB home, 2GB swap, 100MB boot, 50GB windows, and the rest (about 393GB) is data
[03:16] <Uboy> sebsebseb No Windows is commonly used in teh
[03:17] <soadkombucha> sebsebseb: And the data is on an extended partition, I'm thinking about figuring out Hackintosh or trying out chromium OS
[03:17] <rpgsimmaster> Uboy: That was not the question
[03:17] <cntrational> ...what
[03:17] <rpgsimmaster> Uboy: Is Linux the only Operating System you have currently installed on the system?
[03:17] <cntrational> Uboy: "teh" was just a mistake for "the"
[03:17] <Uboy> Pirate_Hunter where exactly i must type sudo lshw ?
[03:17] <soadkombucha> OK my audio won't play at all
[03:17] <alouden>  Using two fingers in a pinching  motion will zoom in and out, and moving a finger in a circular motion  will scroll.
[03:17] <Uboy> sorry guys1
[03:17] <Uboy> ok
[03:17] <Uboy> yes
[03:17] <alouden> does that mean its multi touch or just sort of
[03:18] <rpgsimmaster> that's multitouch
[03:18] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok makes re install easy
[03:18] <Pirate_Hunter> Uboy, if you choose to reistall your linux distro than in you can type that in terminal once you log in
[03:18] <Uboy> the linux is only os on my laptop
[03:18] <sebsebseb> Uboy: with seperate /home as well
[03:18] <alouden> so what does that mean to me
[03:18] <sebsebseb> !home | Uboy
[03:18] <rpgsimmaster> alouden: Er... you have a multitouch touchpad? I'm not sure of the answer you're looking for here
[03:18] <cntrational> alouden: what does what mean to you
[03:18] <Uboy> sebsebseb u mean /home must be in another partition of HDD
[03:18] <Uboy> ?
[03:19] <sebsebseb> Uboy: it is a good idea
[03:19] <sebsebseb> Uboy: makes re installing much easier
[03:19] <cntrational> Uboy: it doesn't have to be, but it's a good idea, yeah
[03:19] <alouden> can i stop the cursor from jumping around or do i just have to be careful not to touch with more than one finger
[03:19] <sebsebseb> Uboy: or when your more expereinced,  and maybe wanting to try another distro, it would make that easier as well
[03:19] <soadkombucha> Can anyone help me get my audio working?
[03:19] <rpgsimmaster> alouden: You should be able to disable multitouch, if you do not want it
[03:19] <cntrational> ooh is that a guide to moving your home partition
[03:19] <alouden> ok thanks
[03:19] <rpgsimmaster> alouden: from memory, under the Mouse preferences, there is an option there to disable it
[03:19] <cntrational> this'll be useful
[03:20] <Uboy> sebsebseb tnx
[03:20] <Pirate_Hunter> Uboy, I got sometime I can help you with the reinstall if you want to do it now instead of going in a loop on the same issue and getting nowhere
[03:20] <sebsebseb> cntrational: want to help him partition for the seperate /home as well, if he comes back on the Live CD?
[03:20] <soadkombucha> Can anyone help me get my audio working? Not actually the sound but playing media files
[03:20] <alouden> it is disabled
[03:20] <rpgsimmaster> alouden: Most curious. I would say the settings are therefore wrong
[03:20] <wildbat> sometime my laptop can't wake up to ubuntu after suspend ~ it just power on and freeze w/ black screen , how do i troubleshoot it
[03:20] <Uboy> Pirate_Hunter tnx
[03:20] <Pirate_Hunter> soadkombucha, have you got the codecs
[03:20] <sebsebseb> cntrational: swap should be fine, from his original install.   so just remove /   and make a new 10GB or so I guess, and big seperate home, both Ext4, and done
[03:20] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: I installed the restricted pack
[03:20] <sebsebseb> cntrational: I mean I want to go away from the computer soon really
[03:20] <aretrfre34> how to hookup 2 ubuntus via wifi?
[03:20] <Pirate_Hunter> !codecs | soadkombucha
[03:21] <aretrfre34> ubottu:wifi
[03:21] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: I have the restricted pack
[03:21] <Uboy> sepsepsep, before I install linux I creat 3 partition 1 > sda1 for root 2> swap area 3> /home, this was enogh?
[03:21] <alouden> settings where doesnt look like i can do a lot in the system, mouse, etc area
[03:21] <cntrational> sebsebseb: oh uh, maybe
[03:21] <cntrational> sebsebseb: i might not be here, either
[03:21] <sebsebseb> Uboy: come back on the Live CD
[03:21] <sebsebseb> Uboy: get it booted now
[03:22] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and i'll tell you how to partition :)
[03:22] <aretrfre34> ubottu:wifi didnt helped
[03:22] <Pirate_Hunter> soadkombucha, you mean ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[03:22] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and then thats it I am so done, with Ubuntu support for tonight :)
[03:22] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: Yes.
[03:22] <Uboy> sebsebseb I partitioned my HDD already now
[03:22] <sebsebseb> Uboy: boot the Ubuntu CD, the live session, and come back here on it, yeah?
[03:22] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yes, but
[03:22] <sebsebseb> Uboy: not the way
[03:23] <sebsebseb> Uboy: are you on the Live CD now?
[03:23] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok wait
[03:23] <Uboy> sebsebseb before that I mustnt move or copy anything to another partition?
[03:23] <sebsebseb> Uboy: have you loaded up from the Ubuntu CD?
[03:24] <sebsebseb> Uboy: are you using the Ubuntu CD now?
[03:24] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: And system sounds work.
[03:24] <Uboy> sebsebseb restart pc and use the LIVE session?
[03:24] <sebsebseb> Uboy: use the live session on the Ubuntu CD
[03:24] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: And so do youtube videos...
[03:24] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok
[03:25] <Uboy> wait
[03:25] <jmknsd> does Ubuntu 10.04 work on the i3 on-chip graphics? or is there some sort of supported hardware website I am not seeing
[03:25] <alouden> rpgsimmaster, on second look, i dont see an option to disable multitouch  or is that something that is done in pc setup
[03:25] <rpgsimmaster> hmmmm
[03:25] <rpgsimmaster> alas, not having multitouch myself, I can't be of any more use here
[03:26] <alouden> ok
[03:26] <alouden> thanks anyway
[03:27] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: I'm really confused
[03:29] <alex_mayorga> hi! How can I get the list of bluetooth MAC addresses of the devices paired to my laptop?
[03:29] <juggalo4833> ok. so how do i install a file ending tar.bz2
[03:29] <soadkombucha> juggalo4833: You have to compile it from source
[03:30] <soadkombucha> juggalo4833: Do you know how to use the terminal?
[03:30] <aurilliance> Yesterday I finally got my eGalax touchscreen working again after updating to 10.04 - Now I want to get it working *with screen rotation*. When I rotate the screen, the touchscreen calibration still thinks it is not rotated, anyone know how to fix this?
[03:30] <juggalo4833> kinda
[03:30] <soadkombucha> juggalo4833: What driver is it?
[03:30] <juggalo4833> its not its the updated firefox
[03:30] <soadkombucha> What version?
[03:31] <kent\n> I've been having some mindnumbing headaches with regard to (possibly) dnsmasq, but also possibly something else. Firstly, for some bizzare reason I cannot make out (or diagnose), machines randomly lose TCP/IP connectivity to my ubuntu box, and its only ever one machine at a time, and when this happens, they also stop being able to request/update dhcp leases ( happens under both windows and linux -_- )
[03:31] <juggalo4833> 3.6.4
[03:31] <thune3> jmknsd: reports in forums are that graphics work fine (suspend/resume problems have been reported though). i say try the liveCD and see for yourself.
[03:31] <cntrational> juggalo4833: you shouldn't install firefox like that
[03:31] <soadkombucha> juggalo4833: where did you save the file to?
[03:31] <juggalo4833> downloads
[03:31] <cntrational> juggalo4833: if you do, you'd have to download and recompile to update again
[03:31] <juggalo4833> then how do i update
[03:32] <kent\n> additionally to my above problem, dnsmasq for some reason keeps having /var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf as an empty file, I would report this bug on launchpad, but the signup rigmarole is way too much -_-
[03:32] <soadkombucha> juggalo4833: I'm looking
[03:32] <jmknsd> thanks thune3, I'm just shopping for a laptop atm,  and want to make sure it has supported hardware
[03:32] <soadkombucha> juggalo4833: Can't you just update through firefox itself?
[03:32] <juggalo4833> no option
[03:32] <cntrational> soadkombucha: it's disabled in ubuntu's version of firefox
[03:32]  * kent\n is welcome to suggestions, and will try not being an ass, seriously, but it may take a bit of self-restraint -_-
[03:32] <soadkombucha> cntrational: Odd.
[03:33] <aretrfre34> how to hookup 2 ubuntus via wifi?
[03:33] <juggalo4833> would it hurt my os to install that way
[03:33] <aurilliance> anyone know how to get an egalax touchscreen to handle screen rotation?
[03:34] <Nola> how many years do you think before Ubuntu will start to be as good as Windows 7?
[03:34] <sebsebseb> Uboy: I nearly left the computer, hi again
[03:34] <aretrfre34> how to hookup 2 ubuntus via wifi?
[03:34] <aurilliance> Nola, negative, several
[03:34] <kent\n> Nola: thats probably a negative value
[03:35] <sebsebseb> Uboy: on the CD?
[03:35] <Uboy> sebsebseb I'm Here in Live CD Session
[03:35] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok
[03:35] <juggalo4833> guys http://linuxers.org/howto/how-update-your-firefox-364-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx
[03:35] <sebsebseb> Uboy: I want to see what your current partition set up is, so  system > administration > partition editor
[03:35] <Uboy> sebsebseb and sorry for Delay
[03:35] <kent\n> Nola: also, "better" is an entirely subjective thing, some people think DOS is better than windows 7
[03:35] <cntrational> juggalo4833: i can tell you how to add a mozilla repository that'll give you the latest updates
[03:35] <Nola> well
[03:35] <Uboy> ok
[03:35] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and show me a screenshot
[03:35] <sebsebseb> !screenshot | Uboy
[03:35] <Nola> you cant go to a web page and download a program for linux
[03:35] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok
[03:35] <cntrational> to be fair, Win7's taskbar is pretty awesome
[03:35] <Nola> and then uncompress it and run
[03:36] <Nola> but windows can
[03:36] <aurilliance> I would say 10.04's support for drivers out of the box was on par with win7, but this is probably for offtopic chat
[03:36] <kent\n> Nola: so, we consider that a *perk*
[03:36] <Nola> so its gonna be a good while before linux is capable
[03:36] <aretrfre34> Nola:you are awsome
[03:36] <Nola> a perk how?
[03:36] <kent\n> Nola: just download and run is why windows is so full of viruses !
[03:36] <aretrfre34> how to hookup 2 ubuntus via wifi?
[03:36] <Joshua_Roberts> Nola, Windows doesn't have repositories either.  I can't update everything on a Win7 machine with one command or menu option.
[03:36] <Uboy> sebsebseb i have partition editor, another one
[03:36] <sebsebseb> Windows 7
[03:36] <sebsebseb> blah de blah
[03:36] <sebsebseb> Vista version 2
[03:36] <sebsebseb> blah de blah
[03:37] <sebsebseb> !ot
[03:37] <FloodBot2> sebsebseb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:37] <Uboy> sebsebseb name Disk Utility
[03:37] <sebsebseb><PHONE_NUMBER>4444444444444444445
[03:37] <Nola> well at my university we had a project of maintaining and releasing a package that our group had put together
[03:37] <Nola> it took 3 weeks to even get it packaged up and attempt to be usable on different linux distros
[03:37] <cntrational> sebsebseb: win 7 is pretty good
[03:37] <sebsebseb> Uboy: system > administration > partition editor
[03:37] <Pirate_Hunter> irony sebsebseb  being told off by obottu
[03:37] <kent\n> Nola: also, all the software on $Distro is supported, for free, by that distribution . Unlike windows where ,er, yes, good luck getting any support for ANYTHING, even if you're paying for it
[03:37] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: not ubottu  FloodBot2
[03:38] <Joshua_Roberts> What are some methods to mount a passworded network share on boot with open box?
[03:38] <Nola> linux int gonna catch on until you can download software from pages
[03:38] <Nola> *is not
[03:38] <Pirate_Hunter> Nola, seriously #off-topic and I stand corrected sebsebseb
[03:38] <sebsebseb> cntrational: it stil shoudn't really be online :)  security reasons, more secure than XP though
[03:38] <kent\n> Nola: that is your belief, but I completely disagree =)
[03:38] <Uboy> sebsebseb > the utilitu for disk in lucid is Disk Utility, wait for screenshot
[03:38] <sebsebseb> Uboy: no gparted/partitioneditor should be on the CD
[03:39] <cntrational> Nola: you can, actually, with .deb files
[03:39] <Uboy> sebsebseb http://img22.img98.com/out.php/i111072_Screenshot.png
[03:39] <sebsebseb> !gparted
[03:39] <aretrfre34> how to activate alt-f2-6 consoles?
[03:39] <jojogizmoajke> I have a problem
[03:39] <lobito> hello
[03:39] <juggalo4833> firefox update worked
[03:39] <Guest81801> 122
[03:39] <jojogizmoajke> I have a linux vps first time ever using linux lol
[03:39] <aretrfre34> if i go alt-f2 it just blinks not active
[03:39] <Joshua_Roberts> Nola; you do know that almost all of 7's great ideas came from linux don't you...?
[03:39] <jojogizmoajke> so i managed to ssh? into the machine and start vnc
[03:39] <lobito> I did the upgrade to ubuntu 10.04 but like every minute my screen blinks
[03:39] <kent\n> cntrational: neg, you still have to "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[03:40] <kent\n> cntrational: thats "too hard!"
[03:40] <jojogizmoajke> But when i tried installing gui i get this
[03:40] <lobito> is there a problem with xorg.conf ? or what it could be?
[03:40] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok and screenshot of gparted > http://img22.img98.com/out.php/i111074_Screenshot1.png
[03:40] <jojogizmoajke> http://pastebin.com/eqh1uMhg
[03:40] <jojogizmoajke> idk
[03:40] <sharedLan> why can't i browse mshome network?? why can't i browse my other ubuntu pc? on the same network..it's linked and shared
[03:40] <cellofellow> cntrational: actually, you can just double-click a .deb file in Nautilus and install it.
[03:40] <jojogizmoajke> what did i do wrong
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Uboy: hrm
[03:40] <cntrational> cellofellow: yes that's what i said
[03:41] <Uboy> sebsebseb relax i'm w8
[03:41] <sebsebseb> Uboy: no partition editor or gparted in  system > administratino ?
[03:41] <sharedLan> i would like to update the other ubuntu pc to 10.4 but it has no cd-rom?
[03:41]  * cellofellow decides to pay closer attention
[03:41] <jojogizmoajke> anyone help me?
[03:41] <Joshua_Roberts> sharedLan? does it have a network connection?
[03:41] <Uboy> sebsebseb , yes I have gparted and disk utility
[03:41]  * sebsebseb might boot up that 10.04 ISO in a vm, stil hasnt' used it for anything
[03:41] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok gparted is what we want
[03:41] <sharedLan> it is shared via wifi and cable yes..
[03:41] <cntrational> kent\n: you can doubleclick to install, as cellofellow said, yeah
[03:41] <cellofellow> sharedLan: you can use a thumbdrive to install, or you can be adventerous and set up a terminal server to install from.
[03:41] <Uboy> gparted screenshot: http://img22.img98.com/out.php/i111074_Screenshot1.png
[03:42] <Joshua_Roberts> have you tried upgrading through apt or update center?
[03:42] <Uboy> sebsebseb gparted screenshot http://img22.img98.com/out.php/i111074_Screenshot1.png
[03:42] <sharedLan> josh yes
[03:42] <Uboy> sebsebseb diskutilitu screenshot http://img22.img98.com/out.php/i111072_Screenshot.png
[03:42] <Uboy> sebsebseb ?
[03:42] <Joshua_Roberts> what about making a usb bootable install?
[03:43] <sharedLan> it doesnt support usb boot i dont think..
[03:43] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok not quite the set up I was expecting, you have a seperate /boot
[03:43] <sharedLan> but how would i do that anyway?
[03:43] <sorcha> hi i need some help when someone has time
[03:43] <cntrational> sharedLan: what os are you using
[03:43] <sebsebseb> !ask | sorcha
[03:43] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, are you trying to guide them into doing a separate /home why use gparted why not do it straight form install menu?
[03:43] <aretrfre34> how to activate alt-f2-6 consoles?
[03:43] <jojogizmoajke> can anyone help :(
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: through manual install is one way yes
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: and probably will do that
[03:44] <Joshua_Roberts> I thought there used to be an option on the web site. and there used to be some tutorials on the web about how to use an existing ubuntu install to create a usb install stick.
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: want to see what partitions they had first, and yes I know there is also a command
[03:44] <sharedLan> snt ubuntu 10
[03:44] <Uboy> sebsebseb is everything for partitions ok?
[03:44] <sharedLan> studio
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Uboy: how did you install Ubuntu before?  did you do manual install?
[03:44] <Uboy> sebsebseb yes
[03:44] <sorcha> ok i am new to linux, trying to get qavimator to run in linux, it has instructions but i am looking at them and wondering what they mean
[03:45] <Joshua_Roberts> sharelan, it is on the website as an option, create cd or usb stick...
[03:45] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok good this will  make things easier then, since you have already used manual install
[03:45] <sharedLan> kk josh i'll try it
[03:45] <sebsebseb> Uboy: why did you do a seperate /boot by the way?
[03:45] <aretrfre34> how to hookup 2 ubuntus via wifi?
[03:45] <thune3> aretrfre34: gettys should be available with ctrl-alt-f[1-6], sometimes framebuffer/graphics issues cause problems for them. what hardware do you have?
[03:45] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, okyour the captain of the boat I'll let you take full command
[03:46] <cellofellow> aretrfre34: what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:46] <Joshua_Roberts> sharedLan choose USB stick and then Ubuntu in the next option line and click show me how.
[03:46] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: maybe its of a pirate boat, and now your well hunting me
[03:46] <Uboy> sebsebseb no I didn't make a seperate partition for /boot!
[03:46] <sharedLan> kk i am also seeding these have they been updated in the past 4 days?
[03:46] <sebsebseb> Uboy: well according to the screenshot you have one
[03:46] <aretrfre34> thune:intel gfx
[03:47] <Uboy> sebsebseb gparted or disk utility?
[03:47] <aretrfre34> cellofellow:I wanna hookup to pcs to each other, to make them ping each other
[03:47] <sebsebseb> Uboy: gparted
[03:48] <sebsebseb> Uboy: also why do you have a big NTFS partition, I thought you told me that Windows wasn't on there?
[03:48] <cellofellow> aretrfre34: using an ad-hoc wifi network, or something?
[03:48] <Uboy> sebsebseb I creat this partition with NTFS format manully
[03:48] <sharedLan> should i re d/l the image files from website? to be sure i'm seeding the most recent files?
[03:48] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok your going to do this correctly with Ext4
[03:48] <sebsebseb> Uboy: my way :)
[03:48] <aretrfre34> cellofellow:no directly wifi cards on each
[03:48] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, nope not hunting you you help them will just add to my skills and knowledge we learn from each other
[03:49] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: no that was a joke, since your IRC nick :D
[03:49] <Uboy> sebsebseb becouse if in future I use a window my pictures, music and .... shown in windows
[03:49] <sebsebseb> Uboy: if your going to have Windows on there, you should put it on first really
[03:49] <sebsebseb> Uboy: since if you do it after Ubuntu, Windows makes it so only Windows boots up,  and then you would have to mess around with Grub 2 to get Ubuntu to boot again, and uh
[03:49] <cellofellow> aretrfre34: ok, yeah, they call that ad-hoc. I've never done this myself, but I think they way to work it is to on one of the machines "create a new wireless network" in NetworkManager, and have the other join. They should each give themselves ZeroConf IP addresses in the <IP_ADDRESS>/16 range. Then, you can ping and whatnot.
[03:50] <HeTaL> And messing with grub 2 isn't the best thing around.
[03:50] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and what HeTaL  put
[03:50] <Uboy> sebsebseb all of it means I change the format to Ext4?
[03:50] <sebsebseb> Uboy: is Windows going on the computer?  if so,  make that choice now
[03:51] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, I know :D
[03:51] <sebsebseb> Uboy: Windows does not play nice with other operating systems
[03:51] <pollywog> is it appropriate to ask for help with Evolution here?
[03:51] <sebsebseb> Uboy: so if you put it on after another operating system,  it makes it so only Windows will boot up
[03:51] <sebsebseb> pollywog: yes
[03:51] <Uboy> sebsebseb Perhaps in future I have to use window for working by Special Eletronic Programs
[03:51] <aretrfre34> cellofellow:tried joiner can't see ad-hoc
[03:52] <sebsebseb> Uboy: well then you should put it on now before Ubuntu
[03:52] <cellofellow> aretrfre34: well, you got me.
[03:52] <Uboy> sebsebseb there is only 1 OS in my system every time ok?
[03:52] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you can dual boot
[03:52] <sebsebseb> Uboy: have Windows and Ubuntu on the same computer
[03:52] <pollywog> I do not run a mail server for my domain, it is hosted elsewhere.  Is there a way to get Evolution to reject foreign character sets or treat emails containing them as junk?
[03:53] <sebsebseb> Uboy: then choose which one to run, when the computer is turned on or re booted
[03:53] <Uboy> sebsebseb : I know but I don't linke tu have a window and ubuntu toghether
[03:53] <juggalo4834> anyone have issues with flash craching during fuillscreen
[03:53] <soadkombucha> juggalo4834: Haven't fullscreened flash yet
[03:53] <aretrfre34> why if run weechat in root, cannot connect to servers?
[03:53] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok well lets do this partition set up, and if you remember how to do it, you can do something similar later on as well
[03:54] <ruari> sebsebseb: I run ubuntu native and then vmplayer for my xp windoze box
[03:54] <juggalo4834> wanna go try for me
[03:54] <ruari> works micely
[03:54] <sebsebseb> Runar: yes I know virtual machines :) ,but I have a feeling  that Uboy might not have enough RAM
[03:54] <sebsebseb> Uboy: how much RAM do you have any idea?
[03:54] <Uboy> sebsebseb: the NTFS partition is for future, becouse if i decide to use windows I need the DATA
[03:54] <sebsebseb> Uboy: look at this
[03:54] <sebsebseb> Uboy: this is for the old Grub, but look
[03:54] <sebsebseb> !grub | Uboy
[03:55] <aretrfre34> how switch between consoles, alf-f1-6 ctr-alt-f1-6 just show blinking no wellcome messages
[03:55] <alex_mayorga> can someone help me with my bluetooth woes?
[03:55] <sebsebseb> Uboy: if you want to have both on the same computer  Ubuntu and Windows,  Windows should be installed first.
[03:55] <Uboy> sebsebseb my size of ram?
[03:55] <juggalo4834> how do i change my nick
[03:55] <alex_mayorga> need the MAC address of my phone to file a police report as it was stolen :(
[03:55] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and if you have enough RAM and such so like at least 1GB I would say, you could virtual machine Windows inside Ubuntu as ruari  was suggesting
[03:56] <cellofellow> juggalo4834: most clients, the /nick newnick command
[03:56] <Uboy> sebsebseb no If i decide to use windows i Erase carefully linux then install windows
[03:56] <juggalo4834> tryed that
[03:56] <sorcha> i have been told i can run some windows programs in Ubuntu, how would i do this please?
[03:56] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok
[03:56] <cellofellow> juggalo4834: which client?
[03:56] <sebsebseb> Uboy: well hopefuly you will dual boot later on if you want to do Windows as well :)
[03:56] <sebsebseb> !dualboot | Uboy
[03:56] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok
[03:56] <juggalo4834> flash irc located here  http://java.freenode.com
[03:56] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok now do the Ubuntu installer
[03:57] <Uboy> sebsebseb u means Now install Ubuntu again?
[03:57] <sebsebseb> Uboy: user name and password and such.  so letters and numbers at least for password,  characters such as £ $  %  ^ to make a bit more secure if you really want.  and I always do more than 8 letters/numbers/characters
[03:57] <cellofellow> juggalo4834: http://webchat.freenode.com is better. AJAX instead of Java.
[03:57] <cellofellow> juggalo4834: even better, a real client.
[03:57] <sebsebseb> Uboy: then when it gets to partitioniong do manual install, and i'll tell you what to do
[03:57] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, suggest vbox and have them setup windows than start it with command such as VBoxHeadless -startvm "name of machine with quotes" than use rdesktop to run it
[03:57] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: sure, but we don't know if Uboy 's computer can handle Virtualbox yet
[03:58] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: altough theres a command to find out RAM,  can't remember what, and the output is rather geek
[03:58] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, should do if it handles the desktop but than... free -m if I aint mistaken
[03:58] <ebhc> I have a DNS problem I was hoping someone could help me out with.
[03:58] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, -m for megabytes
[03:58] <cellofellow> !ask | ebhc
[03:59] <ruari> free -m yepper
[03:59] <sebsebseb> Uboy: so when you get to partitioning and you select manual install, tell me
[03:59] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, yup just tried it, it works free -m
[03:59] <Uboy> sebsebseb, I'm so tired, it is now 17 hours I'm on the laptop! plz let me u help me later every time u tell me. can u plz?
[03:59] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok uhmm
[03:59] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: I reinstalled most of my audio stuff and got it working
[03:59] <pollywog> is the only way to reject or delete emails with foreign character sets to use fetchmail and procmail?  I use Evolution but do not run the mail server for my domain.
[04:00] <ruari> ebhc: what knida of dns problem?
[04:00] <Uboy> sebsebseb so so tnx and much much more
[04:00] <Pirate_Hunter> soadkombucha, awww nice
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Uboy: 17 hours non stop?
[04:00] <soadkombucha> Does anyone know how to get the media control keys on a Toshiba Satellite L500D-ST2543 to work? My volume control doesn't work and neither do my media kes
[04:00] <EntityReborn> Hey guys. Got a system running Server 9.04, can someone lead me to a guide for getting name servers installed and running on it?
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Uboy: lets do this later then :)
[04:00] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: Yeah there's one thing left from ubuntu being perfectly working
[04:00] <Uboy> no with 2 hours stop
[04:00] <Uboy> ok
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Uboy: 2 hours stop?
[04:00] <Uboy> sebsebseb yes
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Uboy:  its getting late here well is already really
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Uboy: this won't take long
[04:01] <Uboy> i've headacke
[04:01] <ebhc> I have a Ubuntu box acting as a firewall/router for my internal network and the two windows boxes I have hooked up to it work just fine but DNS can't resolve on the two bsd boxes I have hooked up.  I'm able to ssh to all boxes no problem.  Any ideas?
[04:01] <Pirate_Hunter> its 4 in the morning I am still wondering what im doing here
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ,but if you want to do it later, uhmm  you can catch me again in like 14 hours from now or something
[04:01] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok tnx
[04:01] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: Who knows. You any good with getting keys to work?
[04:01] <jugalo483> yo dawgs
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: same time zone :D
[04:01] <vaul> Could anyone tell me a command of the «CD/DVD» creator application launcher?
[04:01] <rpgsim[away]> ebhc: Are you able to ping outside addresses?
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: and I know what I am doing here, but it wasn't planned
[04:01] <rpgsim[away]> as in the actual IP addresses
[04:01] <vaul> Accidentaly deleted it.
[04:02] <Pirate_Hunter> shouldn't the desktop option have keyboard command in system>*
[04:02] <ebhc> rpgsim: one sec
[04:02] <Uboy> sebsebseb what your time of country exaxtly now?
[04:02] <ruari> route -n showing your default gateway?
[04:02] <cellofellow> ebhc: what does /etc/resolv.conf in the client boxes look like?
[04:02] <sebsebseb> Uboy: anyway  i'll be around later and such
[04:02] <kostkon> vaul, "brasero"?
[04:02] <vaul> kostkon: No.
[04:02] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: I like this time of year though, its about to get light :D
[04:02] <kostkon> vaul, :/
[04:02] <vaul> kostkon: Look at the «Edit menu» thing, they are different application.
[04:02] <jugalo483> you guys have been a big help in the transformation between windows and ubuntu
[04:03] <vaul> kostkon: Applications, I meant.
[04:03] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: however want to get some sleep before watching  England play Germany,  and my sleeping is rather uh at the moment
[04:03] <kostkon> vaul, oh right, w8
[04:03] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, well Iat 9 I was meant to find some batteries which has got me into an adventure which I wont discuss on IRC and yeah I agree with you its a good time of the year
[04:03] <ebhc> I can't ping any outside ips, and the resolv.conf has the nameservers for my isp listed.
[04:03] <rpgsimmaster> Pirate_Hunter, sebsebseb speak for yourselves - it's winter here :S
[04:03] <rpgsimmaster> ebhc: Then your problem is not DNS resolution
[04:03] <sebsebseb> rpgsimmaster: Australlia? New Zealand?
[04:04] <Uboy> sebsebseb tnx a lot and I see u here 14 hours from now
[04:04] <cellofellow> ebhc: ok, so it's not a DNS problem, it's an IP problem.
[04:04] <vaul> kostkon: It's all due to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alacarte/+bug/118936 bug, which is not fixed for some three years.
[04:04] <rpgsimmaster> sebsebseb: NZ
[04:04] <rpgsimmaster> ebhc: Are your systems able to ping internal IPs?
[04:04] <kostkon> vaul,   the command is:  nautilus --no-default-window --no-desktop burn:///
[04:04] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yeah or something like that I guess
[04:04] <sebsebseb> Uboy: i'll be around again later
[04:04] <Pirate_Hunter> rpgsimmaster, dont worry over here (UK) we get all seasons in a day no matter what time of the year :( an winter well dont want to remember
[04:04] <cntrational> sebsebseb: he could've been in africa or south america or something :V
[04:04] <ebhc> rpg: yes, I can ping and ssh to all boxes on my internal network
[04:04] <rpgsimmaster> Pirate_Hunter: NZ is much the same
[04:04] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok, Tnx a lot too, have fun with World Cup !
[04:04] <rpgsimmaster> ebhc: Is your firewall permitting your BSD boxes to route through?
[04:05] <sebsebseb> cntrational: oh yeah South America get winter when we get summer as well,  I think
[04:05] <rpgsimmaster> perhaps it's a restrictive firewall, and not a problem with your BSD boxes
[04:05] <alex_mayorga> any ideas on querying for bluetoth addresses of paired devices
[04:05] <soadkombucha> Anyone in here ever used keytouch?
[04:05] <cntrational> sebsebseb: everything in the southern hemisphere is like that
[04:05] <ebhc> rpg: see that's the thing, I'm pretty sure it's my firewall on ubuntu as I've hooked up the bsd boxes directly to my cable modem and it works no problem.
[04:05] <Pirate_Hunter> of to a shower than sleep too much for me bye all
[04:06] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: showever at this time?
[04:06] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: a little bit past 4am
[04:06] <vaul> kostkon: Please recheck, it gives me an error.
[04:06] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, like I said I was off to an adventure believe me I need a shower
[04:07] <ruari> wbhc : and you checked your default gateway?
[04:07] <kostkon> vaul, hmm, it works here. try leaving a space after burn:///
[04:07] <ebhc> ruari: default gateway?
[04:07] <rpgsimmaster> ebhc: Have you checked for static routes?
[04:07] <ruari> does your firewall log denials
[04:08] <sorcha> can anyone help me get a window program working in Ubuntu?
[04:08] <sebsebseb> !wine | sorcha
[04:08] <sebsebseb> sorcha: Which program?
[04:08] <vaul> kostkon: I though that ":///" part is some weird smile. :)
[04:08] <sorcha> i am trying to get qavimator working
[04:08] <kostkon> vaul, lol
[04:08] <sorcha> it has instuctions for linux, but i am lost on what it means
[04:08] <cellofellow> ebhc: you can check your systems routing dtable with "route"
[04:09] <ebhc> rpg: not sure how to check for static routes.  I was using webmin to setup iptables but then switched to firestarter.
[04:09] <vaul> kostkon: Now you why that "wrapping" near commands is neccessary sometimes. :)
[04:09] <sebsebseb> sorcha: I don't know what that is
[04:09] <vaul> kostkon: Thank you, it works.
[04:09] <ruari> bsd it is netstat -rn
[04:09] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: It is not, exactly, a Windows program
[04:09] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: The instructions you see on the page are to be typed into a console
[04:09] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: They will compile the program on your Ubuntu system
[04:09] <ruari> that should show you default gateway
[04:10] <sorcha> ok what console
[04:10] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: go Alt+F2; do you get the run dialog?
[04:10] <k-rad> i may have been rash in my criticism of ubuntu
[04:10] <soadkombucha> Does anyone know how to enable the Satellite L500D-ST2543 media keys?
[04:10]  * cellofellow defers to ruari who obviously knows a thing or two about BSD that he doesn't.
[04:10] <sorcha> yes i did
[04:11] <rpgsimmaster> type in 'gnome-terminal'
[04:11] <rpgsimmaster> do you get a terminal window?
[04:11] <kostkon> vaul, in most cases to wrap filenames. instead of giving for example: command -i my\ file, you need the '\ ' to escape the spaces in the filename; an easier way is: command -i "my file"
[04:11] <sebsebseb> kostkon: ok
[04:11] <sebsebseb> kostkon: wrong one
[04:11] <sebsebseb> k-rad: ok
[04:11] <pondera> what is the code name for ubuntu 10.04 ?
[04:11] <sebsebseb> k-rad: well I don't know what you said, but
[04:11] <ebhc> rpg: on the ubuntu box the default gateway shows my isp ip.
[04:11] <sorcha> yes kinda like the old dos
[04:11] <soadkombucha> pondera: Lusty Lynx I think
[04:11] <rpgsimmaster> ebhc: Good. Now have you checked your firewall rules?
[04:11] <ruari> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/freebsd-setup-default-routing-with-route-command/
[04:12] <soadkombucha> lucid lynx
[04:12] <soadkombucha> pondera: Why
[04:12] <pondera> whats the one b4 THAT ?
[04:12] <vaul> kostkon: I knew that. I meant wrapping in quotes in the chat, when communicating.
[04:12] <rpgsimmaster> soadkombucha: Lol at lusty lynx
[04:12] <pondera> i want to install mana world
[04:12] <sebsebseb> k-rad: your entitled to an opinion about Ubuntu, even if it is wrong and unfair
[04:12] <soadkombucha> pondera: Intrepid Ibex and Hardy Heron are 8
[04:12] <k-rad> i wouldn't say unfair
[04:12] <soadkombucha> pondera: Jaunty Jackalope 9.04 Released April 2009 Karmic Koala 9.10 Released October 2009
[04:12] <soadkombucha> pondera: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[04:12] <sebsebseb> k-rad: right well I don't even know what you said,  am interested though, but this is off topic I guess
[04:12] <sebsebseb> k-rad: pm?
[04:13] <GNUtoo|laptop> hi, I've installed medibuntu, but only the free part,and I don't see libavcodec-52-extra
[04:13] <k-rad> no thats quite alright
[04:13] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Okay, now follow the isntructions
[04:13] <sorcha> ok
[04:13] <soadkombucha> Have to run a script be back in a minute
[04:13] <ruari> ebhc need to know the routing table for your bsd's that are behind your ubuntu firwall
[04:13] <ebhc> rpg: I think the rules are set to forward all internal network traffic.  let me check that faq that was just posted for me. brb
[04:13] <sebsebseb> k-rad: what problem did you have?
[04:13] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: start with entering: `svn co https://qavimator.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/qavimator qavimator` (without the quotes)
[04:13] <k-rad> something stupid.  :)
[04:13] <sebsebseb> k-rad: normally people will complain about Ubuntu, if they have unsupported hardware that didn't just work, for example
[04:13] <GNUtoo|laptop> what should I do, did I do somehting wrong?
[04:13] <ruari> hate to ask but your interfaces are up on your bsd as well, ifconfig -a
[04:14] <rpgsimmaster> ruari: Yes they are, he can ssh in, remember
[04:14] <ruari> sorry missed that
[04:14] <kostkon> vaul, ah, for example, to separate your own text from the cmd you are giving to someone? for example: to list your files give "ls" in a terminal
[04:14] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Do you get a very long list of files appearing, or do you get some statement about 'program not installed'?
[04:15] <aurilliance> anyone know how to get an egalax touchscreen to handle screen rotation?
[04:15] <sorcha> no it told me svn is not installed
[04:15] <vaul> kostkon: I am not sure if this is correct, but I do so most of the time.
[04:15] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Okay, go 'apt-get install svn'
[04:15] <wyne> can someone help me
[04:15] <kostkon> vaul, :)
[04:15] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Actually, scratch that
[04:15] <sebsebseb> !ask |  wyne
[04:15] <sorcha> kk
[04:15] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Go 'apt-get install svn build-essentials'
[04:15] <wyne> i am trying to install wireless on my laptop
[04:16] <wyne> i have linux GoS
[04:16] <rpgsimmaster> ooh, this'll be fun
[04:16] <k-rad> heck, forget fedora, i'll stick with ubuntu :)
[04:16] <vaul> kostkon: But in worst case you also need to mention not to type quotes in the terminal.
[04:16] <sebsebseb> wyne: oh GOS is based on Ubuntu, so really you need their support channel
[04:16] <sin_tax> Is there a hotkey to move a window to another virtual desktop (instead of dragging halfway between two, switching, and then dragging it all the way in)?
[04:16] <sebsebseb> wyne: or forum
[04:16] <vaul> kostkon: But luckily, it seldom happens.
[04:16] <cellofellow> sin_tax: Ctrl+Alt+Left or Right
[04:16] <ebhc> ruari & rgp: Thanks! using the netstat command I saw that my default gateway was set to <IP_ADDRESS> instead of <IP_ADDRESS>  I fixed it and now it works.  Thanks!
[04:16] <cellofellow> or up or down
[04:16] <wyne> my laptop is compac presario
[04:16] <rpgsimmaster> ebhc: np
[04:16] <ruari> sweet!
[04:16] <kostkon> vaul, yes, it's best to put it in a parenthesis at the end of your text, for example
[04:17] <flypiper> soadkombucha, Im installing 9.04.... I think that worked great. I can't beleive that the new distro's have such a problem with this wireless driver
[04:17] <sorcha> ok its not finding it
[04:17] <wyne> sebsebseb help
[04:17] <rpgsimmaster> !pastebin sorcah
[04:17] <sebsebseb> flypiper: Ubuntu versions you mean
[04:17] <sebsebseb> flypiper: also sometimes or a lot of the time actsaul other distros, work better for wireless than Ubuntu
[04:17] <rpgsimmaster> !pastebin | sorcha
[04:17] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: can you paste the exact output to there?
[04:18] <vaul> sin_tax: Of couse the is.
[04:18] <vaul> sin_tax: Do you have compositing effects turned on?
[04:18] <flypiper> sebsebseb, I understand that but my 14 year old daughter doesn't .. she likes Ubuntu
[04:18] <cellofellow> sin_tax: oops, it's Ctrl+Alt+Shift+DirectionKey
[04:18] <dbdii407> Where aré the wallpapers stored?
[04:18] <vaul> sin_tax: Yes, he is right.
[04:18] <sebsebseb> flypiper: as for 9.04 its a pretty great release really, shame it will go end of life at the end of October, no more security updates
[04:18] <cellofellow> dbdii407: default ones are in /usr/share/backgrounds
[04:18] <sorcha> i'm sorry i am lost
[04:19] <sin_tax> cellofellow, perfect - thanks! and thanks as well vaul
[04:19] <sharedLan> how do i enable shared video ram with my nvidia 5500? ubuntu 10.4 studio
[04:19] <sebsebseb> flypiper: well there was one end user feature that really got at me, but other then that :)
[04:19] <dbdii407> Ty
[04:19] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Okay, you have the old "DOS" window open, yes?
[04:19] <flypiper> sebsebseb,  I understand building a CD that doesn't have the wireless working and NetworkManager shuts down the interfaces about every 20 seconds.. that's called a great Release
[04:19] <sorcha> yes
[04:19] <vaul> sebsebseb: What was so great about 9.04 that is not present at 10.04?
[04:20] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Okay, now when you type in 'sudo apt-get install svn build-essential', what happens?
[04:20] <aurilliance> anyone know how to get an egalax touchscreen to handle screen rotation?
[04:20] <sebsebseb> vaul: thats a bit off topic, but  with 10.04 they have changed Gnome even more, in  a bad way,  just most users like those changes
[04:20] <sebsebseb> vaul: I mean changes that won't go upstream
[04:20] <flypiper> sebsebseb, That is the best advertising for our cause that you can get -(
[04:20] <sharedLan> 10.4 is solid and updated?
[04:21] <sharedLan> seb whats bad?
[04:21] <vaul> sebsebseb: And unfortunate for you I do belong to «most» users that liked the changes. Mwaha-ha-ha. :)
[04:21] <cellofellow> I'm guessing sebsebseb is complaining about Ayatana.
[04:21] <sorcha> reading was done but then i got this
[04:21] <rpgsimmaster> If there's one thing I hate, it's the new theme
[04:21] <sorcha> E: Couldn't find package svn
[04:21] <cellofellow> Ayatana rocks, better than the GNOME Shell stuff that upstream is coming up with.
[04:21] <sharedLan> some people think it uses more ram??
[04:21] <sebsebseb> rpgsimmaster: yeah I would rather have the old brown look myself :)
[04:21] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: er, whoops
[04:22] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: make that 'sudo apt-get install subversion build-essential
[04:22] <sebsebseb> shut down and log out not being in the system menu, where they should be.  no auotmatic shut down feature anymore with me menu enabled,  that kind of  stuff
[04:22] <sharedLan> lol main reason i use ubuntu is it seems to be able to run software meant for other "shells" as well
[04:23] <sorcha> ok its loading something it asked if it could i said yes
[04:23] <sebsebseb> cellofellow: Gnome Shell might be like KDE 4 to begin with, basically  not liked that much by many, but then improved and most users like it
[04:23] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: 'good, that's what you want'
[04:23] <cellofellow> sebsebseb: we'll see what happens.
[04:23] <cntrational> sebsebseb: actually, it's there in the system menu if you remove indicator applet
[04:23] <sebsebseb> cntrational: yes I know
[04:23] <vaul> sebsebseb: That's not objectively bad, changes just do not fit you taste.
[04:23] <sharedLan> ugh
[04:23] <sebsebseb> cntrational: and then the linking, of  indicatoer applet and sound menu.  and all that, as well, uh
[04:23] <flypiper> sebsebseb, Thank You.. you just explained the compile problems with the new versions
[04:24] <aurilliance> Does anyone here have an egalax touchscreen? I'm having trouble getting mine to handle rotation...
[04:24] <sebsebseb> flypiper: the compile problems?
[04:24] <cntrational> ...uh?
[04:24] <sorcha> it says config deferred now taking place
[04:24] <Saxon> Can anyone help me get DVDs to play?  I can't make them work in Totem, Kaffeine, or VLC.  I need to get DVDs to work on Ubuntu!
[04:24] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Good; tell me when it's all done
[04:24] <vaul> !dvd
[04:24] <sharedLan> how do i tell my video card to use a swap file for mem? or system memory?
[04:24] <sorcha> it seems to be but it hasn't told me it is
[04:24] <aurilliance> sharedLan, is that even possible?
[04:24] <cellofellow> Saxon: what exactly isn't working? Have you installed libdvdcss2 from Medibuntu?
[04:24] <Saxon> I've already gone through the ubuntu websote stuff already.
[04:24] <vaul> Saxon: You meant movies when saying DVDs, did you?
[04:24] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Are you back at a commmand prompt, where you can type in more stuff?
[04:25] <sebsebseb> vaul: in my  opinion there are quite a few bad changes in 10.04, at least for expereinced users such as myself, who have used Ubuntu either from the second release in 2005 in my case, or for some the first in 2004.   However this is off topic, so this is a good thing to end it with.
[04:25] <flypiper> sebsebseb, ERROR: not using the "bash" shell.. ERROR 2
[04:25] <sorcha> yes
[04:25] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha, okay, now we get to the actual part of installing your program
[04:25] <sebsebseb> flypiper: uh how did I explain a compile problem?
[04:25] <sebsebseb> flypiper: they haven't messed with the shell stuff yet
[04:25] <flypiper> sebsebseb, Gnome shell
[04:25] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: can you type in 'svn co https://qavimator.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/qavimator qavimator'?
[04:25] <sebsebseb> flypiper: bash is the terminal
[04:25] <juggalo4834> how do i unrar something
[04:26] <sorcha> ok
[04:26] <vaul> sebsebseb: I understand your point, but I think you just had habits theese changes broke. Okay, lets end this.
[04:26] <aldigreenhacker> test
[04:26] <ubutom_> failed
[04:26] <lostinubuntu> hi hi.. im a bit lost
[04:26] <sebsebseb> flypiper: Gnome Shell is the new look for Gnome 3, which will be released in September, was going to be April, but they are delayed
[04:26] <flypiper> sebsebseb, why do I get that error then in 10.4??   I dunno
[04:26] <sorcha> its done i have a promote after a long list of checks
[04:26] <flypiper> sebsebseb, ahhh
[04:26] <cntrational> i wonder if gnome shell'll be in maverick
[04:26] <Saxon> cello yes I've had installed
[04:26] <sorcha> promt*
[04:26] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Okay,
[04:26] <sebsebseb> cntrational: no it won't won't be, but should be able to get it from the repo
[04:26] <cellofellow> Saxon: well, then, what doesn't work?
[04:27] <lostinubuntu> i tried looking for massive amounts of info and find nothing much.. anyone good at figureing out video issues
[04:27] <juggalo4834> how do i unrar soemthing
[04:27] <sebsebseb> cntrational: like at the moment you can get Gnome Shell for 10.04, but the version in the repo is old, well theres a ppa for a later version
[04:27] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: now follow the instructions here http://www.qavimator.org/, where it says 'and run the following commands:' under Linux(SVN)
[04:27] <juggalo4834> whats the issue
[04:27] <cntrational> sebsebseb: they're already in the re- oh
[04:27] <Saxon> cello, when I try to start the movies on DVD, sometimes the opening starts, but then it cuts off, or just nothi9ng.
[04:27] <sebsebseb> cntrational: already in the what?
[04:27] <sharedLan> yes it's possible
[04:27] <cntrational> it's already in the respositories
[04:27] <rpgsimmaster> juggalo483: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=unrar+Ubuntu
[04:27] <soadkombucha> Saxon: Did you installed the ubuntu restricted drivers package?
[04:27] <lostinubuntu> i have a ibm e-server 445 and i can install the server just fine but then if i try to install desktop the video goes whack and get infinate loop
[04:28] <aurilliance> sharedLan, is that even possible?
[04:28] <aurilliance> sorry ^
[04:28] <aurilliance> Does anyone here have an egalax touchscreen? I'm having trouble getting mine to handle rotation...
[04:28] <sharedLan> xp uses virtual memory for opengl and directx as well as the on videoboard memory
[04:28] <cellofellow> Saxon: kind of hard to diagnose that. Totem is a generally flakey DVD player. VLC always works for me, but that's works-for-me. If all else fails you can try buying the commercial DVD player from Fluendo.
[04:28] <Saxon> soad, yes all other  restricted format work
[04:28] <sharedLan> ubuntu see's it but it is not enabled
[04:28] <sebsebseb> !google | rpgsimmaster
[04:29] <sebsebseb> !rar
[04:29] <rpgsimmaster> sebsebseb: That's why i google it for him
[04:29] <rpgsimmaster> *googled :P
[04:29] <soadkombucha> 7z > rar
[04:29] <sorcha> ok on the first line i get no directory found
[04:29] <cntrational> 7zip is good
[04:30] <sorcha> then for qmake i get a couple of options with get package
[04:30] <cellofellow> tar.lzma > 7z
[04:30] <pres> Between 7z and unrar, you can cover everything.
[04:30] <rpgsimmaster> Can someone else help sorcha build qavimator, I have to go?
[04:30] <cntrational> cellofellow: >:v
[04:30] <sorcha> is this something i will hav eto go through each time i use this
[04:31] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: No, just once
[04:31] <sorcha> thank heavens for that
[04:31] <cellofellow> cntrational: what?
[04:31] <cntrational> cellofellow: nothing
[04:31] <cellofellow> 7z is windows-specific, like zip. On *nix, better to use tar.lzma, which gives you the same compression algorithm with a UNIX-native archive format.
[04:31] <sharedLan> xp can even be glitched into using onboard video at the same time as pci video..and share that ram too..using  "rivatuner"
[04:32] <rpgsimmaster> sorcha: Can you get someone else to help you now - I have to disappear, unfortunately;
[04:32] <rpgsimmaster> sorry
[04:32] <sorcha> thank you for your help
[04:32] <sorcha> i will try
[04:32] <sharedLan> I want the same kinda setup in my ubuntu studio
[04:32] <pres> That's crap. 7z and zip are not MSWindows specific.
[04:32] <sorcha> does anyone know how to build qavimator?
[04:32] <cellofellow> pres: yes they are. They store Windows file attributes, not Unix permissions.
[04:33] <sebsebseb> cellofellow: 7-zip has a command line app for Linux distros
[04:33] <sebsebseb> cellofellow: the graphical 7-zip program will also work nicely in Wine
[04:33] <sebsebseb> cellofellow: and  other programs in  a Linux distro can deal with those files, native programs
[04:33] <cellofellow> p7zip is there and it works, yes, but that doesn't make it any less a Windows-specific archive format.
[04:34] <pres> sebsebseb; 7z integrates into Ubuntu's built in archiver. No need for Windows version+WINE. Or use cli, which is what I prefer.
[04:34] <lostinubuntu> i belive i have a buildt in radeon 7000/ve
[04:34] <sebsebseb> pres: and here we got cellofellow thinking its a Windows thing
[04:34] <pres> Well that's wrong.
[04:34] <sebsebseb> cellofellow: 7zip is open source, and RAR is more of a Windows thing, and RAR is horrible
[04:34] <juggalo4834> why would ubuntu give me shitty download speeds and my window system gets great speeds
[04:35] <cntrational> how does it integrate into the built in archiver? that sounds neat
[04:35] <ruari> sorcha:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=702049
[04:35] <sharedLan> usually ubu gets great and xp fails
[04:35] <cntrational> sebsebseb: at least rar is a bit better than zip
[04:35] <ruari> towards bottom
[04:35] <cellofellow> sebsebseb: both zip and 7z specifically store windows file attributes, and can't store unix file attributes like permissions. Prove me wrong.
[04:35] <sebsebseb> cntrational: not on a Linux distro
[04:35] <pres> cntrational; it just does.
[04:35] <sebsebseb> !rar
[04:35] <sharedLan> juggo try disableing ipv6
[04:35] <juggalo4834> how so?
[04:35] <cntrational> pres: how do i do this
[04:35] <kostkon> sorcha, according to this: http://yetanotherubuntublog.blogspot.com/2010/03/qavimator-on-karmic-32-64bit.html you'll need to install some packages first
[04:36] <kostkon> sorcha, thus, give the command:  sudo apt-get install subversion qt4-qmake libqt4-dev freeglut3-dev
[04:36] <sharedLan> well ping and d/l's in ubuntu my personal experiences has far exceeded and microsoft os's
[04:36] <sharedLan> any
[04:36] <sebsebseb> sharedLan: also Wget is :)
[04:36] <pres> cntrational; just install 7z and unrar from the repos and it automatically intergrates.
[04:36] <sorcha> ok gonna run that and see
[04:36] <sharedLan> but there are settings that can free things up more
[04:37] <lostinubuntu> i love ubuntu but it seems that there is no support for my new (Used) server. all because of a video driver issue
[04:37] <sharedLan> do you have pci-e juggo?
[04:37] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: whats the exact problem?  and which card?
[04:38] <sharedLan> name of system and maker??
[04:38] <aurilliance> Does anyone here have an egalax touchscreen? I'm having trouble getting mine to handle rotation...
[04:38] <sharedLan> model number of motherboard would help too
[04:38] <cntrational> pres: hmmm 7z doesn't appear to be in the repos
[04:38] <lostinubuntu> i have a imb e-server i can install the ubuntu server just fine but if i try to install the desktop it will cause the server to reboot forever
[04:38] <cellofellow> cntrational: it is, p7zip
[04:38] <cellofellow> !p7zip
[04:38] <lostinubuntu> it has a radeon 7000/ve
[04:39] <sharedLan> IBM?
[04:39] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: server edition?
[04:39] <lostinubuntu> yep ibm
[04:39] <cellofellow> !info p7zip
[04:39] <lostinubuntu> yep
[04:39] <pres> cntrational; type into terminal "sudo aptitude install p7zip-full unrar"
[04:39] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: well your not meant to install a GUI on the server
[04:39] <sharedLan> hmm
[04:39] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: and you can run servers in the desktop version as well
[04:39] <cntrational> pres: oh, i used "7z"
[04:39] <cntrational> pres: 'kay
[04:39] <sebsebseb> !server | lostinubuntu
[04:39] <pres> cntrational; yeah I thought you may have.
[04:39] <sharedLan> the console works..becuase it's not using video..but you can use it to setup the gui??
[04:39] <pres> ;-)
[04:40] <lostinubuntu> im used to running the gui in server
[04:40] <sharedLan> his issue is the video card won't run the gui
[04:40] <lostinubuntu> its how i do alot of quick things
[04:40] <lostinubuntu> exactly
[04:40] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: and if you do the server  LTS
[04:40] <lostinubuntu> the video card is a radeon 7000/ve
[04:40] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: and do desktop stuff, well the desktop stuff will run out of support, before the server stuff
[04:40] <sharedLan> this is 10.4??
[04:40] <lostinubuntu> yes 10.04
[04:41] <sebsebseb> !lts
[04:41] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: you got a boot up issue?
[04:41] <lostinubuntu> only if i install the desktop
[04:41] <sharedLan> have you tried other drivers for it??  what is your chipset??
[04:41] <lostinubuntu> thats what im looking for
[04:41] <lostinubuntu> no clue where to begin
[04:41] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: did you install a propritary driver?
[04:41] <sharedLan> sudo lshw
[04:41] <lostinubuntu> the chipset would of been for a radeon ve or radeon 7000/ve
[04:42] <lostinubuntu> no clue how to do it
[04:42] <ITSOSIMPO> hello could someone send a link with instructions to free memory after unmounting /var/lib/ureadahead/debugfs
[04:42] <sharedLan> the chipset is usually separate from the video card unless ati made that specifically for that board..
[04:42] <lostinubuntu> but also another issue comes up seems this fsck thing likes to come up and cause lock
[04:42] <sebsebseb> lostinubuntu: does the graphical boot up show ok or not?
[04:43] <lostinubuntu> well it is a buildt in video
[04:43] <sharedLan> how are you installing?
[04:43] <lostinubuntu> for the e-server 455
[04:43] <sharedLan> hmm let me google
[04:43] <lostinubuntu> the only info i got was a dropped off support on it
[04:43] <cntrational> this channel moves really quickly
[04:43] <sharedLan> that doesn't mean nobody  has answers for you
[04:44] <sharedLan> it may not have been built for linux yet??
[04:44] <lostinubuntu> right now it is running a windows server 2008 and i hate MS products
[04:44] <sharedLan> ditto
[04:44] <ruari> me too
[04:45] <lostinubuntu> and i am too noob at ubuntu to really know what im doing
[04:45] <lostinubuntu> love the server though
[04:45] <sharedLan> can you run sudo lshw and see if it report onboard video or just the chipset??
[04:46] <lostinubuntu> hmm ill have to reinstall
[04:46] <sharedLan> hehe
[04:46] <lostinubuntu> this will take a few
[04:46] <sharedLan> i'm hopeing the cd got messed up in transit to the other pc...
[04:46] <sharedLan> or the hd is messed up
[04:47] <sharedLan> cause server could run exclusively in ram xD
[04:47] <lostinubuntu> well with god's will i will have my ubuntu on a silly server
[04:48] <sharedLan> lol any pc can be a server..but this one has things that make it better suited
[04:48] <lostinubuntu> yea its got 4 2.7 ghs processors and 8 gb ram
[04:48] <lostinubuntu> not the best but its better then the 1.3 ghz pc i was using
[04:48] <sharedLan> 4 separte cpus???
[04:49] <lostinubuntu> yep
[04:49] <sharedLan> awesome
[04:49] <lostinubuntu> cant run a 64 bit os
[04:49] <lostinubuntu> but xcan run 32 bit
[04:49] <sharedLan> hey pm me so we don't flood this thing
[04:49] <lostinubuntu> it loves the server cd all untill the desktop
[04:49] <lostinubuntu> kk will do
[04:49] <sharedLan> click the name hheh

[04:51] <NeoCicak> hi all.. i'm running windows xp guest inside my ubuntu virtualbox.... but the speed of the xp is very slow! i have a 2GHZ Intel Core 2 Duo... and the XP guest recognizes it (it says 2GHZ intel core 2 duo)... but it says 50 Mhz for the speed...
[04:52] <juggalo4834> why would flash not alow me to use hardware accleration
[04:52] <sandy> is kubuntu and ubuntu all the same program
[04:52] <sorcha> ok sorry it was taking a while to load all that
[04:53] <xangua> ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu kde; you can install the same apps
[04:53] <mercutio22> can someone please help me fix my dual monitor with compiz setup? here's xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/455754/
[04:54] <Guest4839> ok xangua so will gnome work on kubuntu
[04:54] <mercutio22> Neither thing works, compiz or RandR dual head
[04:54] <ruari> sorcha it work? looks like a cool program
[04:54] <cntrational> you can install gnome on kubuntu
[04:54] <cntrational> and gnome applications will work as well
[04:54] <xangua> Guest4839:  you can install so many desktops you want to > sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:55] <Guest4839> xangua so if i upgrade to kubuntu is there any advantages to it
[04:55] <mercutio22> I probably made a mess on xorg.conf
[04:56] <wildbat> ubuntu don't give the option to suspend/sleep(it got hibernates thou) in the shutdown menu~ what should i do to enable it? 10.04, E6600, ASUS P5B
[04:56] <sorcha> no its telling me a bunch of errors then command not found
[04:56] <cntrational> oh whoa they already released firefox 3.6.6
[04:57] <sorcha> and yes if you do any 3d av animations its a great program one i can't afford to lose unless theres something else i can use
[04:57] <hasek79> what do i need to be able to play dvd movies in my dvd rom drive on my laptop?
[04:58] <xangua> hasek79: libdvdcss2, you can get it from medibuntu
[04:58] <xangua> !medibuntu
[04:59] <dschulz> hasek79: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[05:00] <cntrational> hmmm
[05:00] <Guest4839> xangua is there a reason to upgrade to kubuntu then is it a better program?
[05:00] <cntrational> Guest4839: it's a different program
[05:00] <sorcha> i just reran it all again everythings fine til the make command
[05:00] <sorcha> then i get two errors
[05:01] <fireun> hey all, fresh 10.04 install here with a mouse that isnt working (when it should) I found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1485671&page=2
[05:01] <riz0n> When I try to log out Ubuntu, it says I have stopped jobs. How can I switch to the job and end it? Thanks
[05:01] <fireun> which says its some odd problem with ehci->uhci handoff not covering everything
[05:03] <manhunter> hi,what's that application to install that will appear at bottom or above on ubuntu desktop,like gnome-panel,that panel will contain shortcut of installed application like firefox,piding,openoffice,gedit etc. if i move the cursor on that shorcut the icon of that application will increase,the shortcut of application on that menu will rotate according to the movement of the mouse.someone tell me what's the application/menu
[05:03] <Yoques> Hi
[05:03] <cntrational> ...a dock?
[05:03] <cellofellow> manhunter: Docky
[05:03] <Yoques> I need to solve a problem with a break USB mass storage 4GB
[05:03] <Joshua_Roberts> is there a default calculator app with ubuntu?
[05:03] <cellofellow> manhunter: or Avant Window Navigator, or Cairo Dock.
[05:04] <kostkon> Joshua_Roberts, yes
[05:04] <cellofellow> Joshua_Roberts: gcalctool, in Applications -> Accessories -> Calculator.
[05:04] <Yoques> The USB appears when I put lsusb, but is impossible to mount it to can copy with ddrescue
[05:04] <manhunter> cellofellow: what's the command to install it?
[05:04] <Joshua_Roberts> I am using openbox instead of kde or gnome
[05:04] <cellofellow> manhunter: just search for them in Software Center.
[05:04] <Joshua_Roberts> so it is gcalctool  thanks
[05:05] <cntrational> manhunter: sudo apt-get install docky
[05:05] <cellofellow> manhunter: it may be docky2
[05:06] <kostkon> manhunter, or search for "dock" in the ubuntu software center. it will list a few
[05:06] <cntrational> there doesn't appear to be a docky2 in the repos
[05:06] <hasek79> what the app called that you can put animation following the cursor and where can you get it?
[05:07] <shoonya> is there any indicator patch available for exaile ?
[05:07] <cntrational> indicator patch?
[05:07] <shoonya> i mean indicator support for exaile
[05:07] <hasek79> is it an app?
[05:08] <shoonya> indicator-applet available in ubuntu 10.04
[05:08] <inert> anyone here know how to get lubuntu to load itself entirely into memory for a low-power environment?
[05:09] <cntrational> shoonya: open exaile, Edit » Preferences » Appearance » Tick "Show tray icon"
[05:09] <hasek79> how do you become the owner of the system? i tried to move a folder to the backgrounds folder and it said you are not the owner????????
[05:09] <hasek79> isnt the admin the owner?
[05:10] <XP1> i have a win98-era computer and after i try to install 10.04 (ubuntu, xubuntu, and lubuntu), the comp freezes after BIOS: the keyboard is frozen, screen is blank, hdd activity off
[05:10] <jmad980> ouch
[05:10] <XP1> the live cd can run, but after install ubuntu doesn't load
[05:11] <cntrational> "win98-era" what
[05:11] <jmad980> that means around 1997 ;)
[05:11] <XP1> P III 500Mhz
[05:11] <kostkon> cntrational, i guess that option is for the old gnome tray applet, not for the new ubuntu tray, aka indicator applet
[05:11] <ubutom_> XP1, try lubuntu
[05:11] <cntrational> XP1: o:
[05:11] <jmad980> he did ;)
[05:11] <XP1> i did
[05:12] <XP1> i also tried CD, DVD, and alternative
[05:12] <sorcha> can anyone help me figure out the errors on trying to build qavimator
[05:12] <cntrational> kostkon: eh
[05:12] <XP1> i checked the RAM and 1 stick had failed the tests, so i just took out all the others and left a 128MB
[05:13] <XP1> which was one that passed
[05:13] <ubutom_> well, 128mb ram and 500 mhz processor aint gonna be fun with a modern os
[05:13] <cntrational> sounds like a really old computer
[05:13] <Lym> Is there any way I can install the latest ubuntu using an external hard drive? I don't have any blank cds or a pendrive
[05:13] <jmad980> XP1: don't think thats enough to run ubuntu
[05:14] <cntrational> is it one of those towers with the dirty white exterior
[05:14] <jmad980> not sure if swap would let you get away with it or not
[05:14] <XP1> i still have another 128MB, 64MB sticks but i took them out because it was freezing during install
[05:14] <jmad980> might have to buy more ram, or just a new computer if you could
[05:14] <jmad980> can get some cheaper than ram prolly
[05:14] <ubutom_> XP1, win2k might run well on it...
[05:14] <jmad980> old ram is expensive
[05:14] <caleb_> or use bsd : D
[05:15] <jmad980> :p
[05:15] <cntrational> Lym: i've tried that before, i don't think you can
[05:15] <XP1> hmm
[05:15] <Lym> =[
[05:17] <odox> i have a question on ubuntu plz
[05:17] <cntrational> odox: yes
[05:17] <ubutom_> !usb > Lym
[05:17] <radikal> hey good night everybody
[05:18] <ubutom_> night
[05:18] <odox> i'm looking for a list of the most recommended hardware to run ubuntu on, any helps plz?
[05:18] <radikal>  someone can help me, i want to try sync my evo phone and cant sync whit my computer
[05:19] <ubutom_> odox, I don't think there is such a thing as most recommended hardware
[05:19] <ubutom_> odox, most pc will work, as with peripherals like printer, scanner and so on you should check first before you buy
[05:20] <actionParsnip> yo yo yo
[05:20] <ubutom_> !es actionParsnip  :D
[05:20] <ubutom_> just kidding
[05:20] <supernothing> actionParsnip: oy oy oy
[05:20] <actionParsnip> ubutom_: you forgot the pipe dude ;)
[05:21] <ubutom_> actionParsnip, yah, well, I am only a bot, please don't think I am intelligent :P :D
[05:21] <cntrational> ¡au lait!
[05:21] <odox> oh ok ubutom.....the community doesn't keep lists of hardware that ubuntu has failed to support, or another list where ubuntu users give their recommendations on what works best for them?
[05:21] <riz0n> When I try to log out Ubuntu, it says I have stopped jobs. How can I switch to the job and end it? Thanks
[05:21] <actionParsnip> !hcl | odox
[05:22] <ubutom_> odox, sure there are hardware compatibility lists, but there is no best
[05:22] <cntrational> !ubottu
[05:22] <cntrational> hmm
[05:22] <cntrational> !google
[05:23] <bazhang> cntrational, /msg ubottu please
[05:23] <odox> thank you ubutom and ubotto
[05:23] <mcl0vin> just installed 9.10 on a laptop and when it asked me to boot i did , now i get "GRUB loading. error:file not found" then furb rescue> "
[05:23] <actionParsnip> mcl0vin: i'd boot to live cd to reinstall grub
[05:23] <preecher> i kno this is probly not a qstn for here but is they a program i can get for ubuntu that will let me send and recieve faxes without having a fax machine
[05:24] <hasek79> ty the dvd player works now
[05:24] <kavelot> how do I add a shortcut to "Favorites" on this new ubuntu interface (I don't know if it's just for netbook, but that's my case)
[05:24] <mcl0vin> actionParsnip: how would i install it form liveCD
[05:24] <ubutom_> preecher, asterisk but I don't know anything about that :)
[05:24] <actionParsnip> preecher: you'll need a fax modem at least
[05:24] <actionParsnip> !grub2 | mcl0vin
[05:25] <Flannel> preecher: There are, I suggest you search the repositories for others, but if nothing else 'efax' claims to be what you're looking for
[05:26] <preecher> ubutom and actionParsnip  and Flannel thx-) -
[05:26] <actionParsnip> preecher: isnt fax fairly dead now email exists
[05:26] <preecher> actionP
[05:27] <supernothing> actionParsnip: so is snail mail, but people still use it occasionally :P
[05:27] <actionParsnip> preecher: you may be able to send fax from email clients, i know outlook can do it but i think its some magic in exchange or somesuch
[05:27] <cntrational> actionParsnip: we can't exactly talk, since we're using irc
[05:27] <preecher> actionParsnip yea i kno i was just lookin at some things and was wondering
[05:27] <actionParsnip> supernothing: oh totally
[05:27] <hasek79> is there a way to make the admin for the system also the owner?
[05:27]  * actionParsnip isnt in a fit state to advise so will only be answering easy questions
[05:27] <cntrational> and snail mail is cool
[05:28] <actionParsnip> pidgeon post is cooler than snail mail
[05:28] <cntrational> *space* snail mail
[05:28] <ubutom_> fax is still used for canceling contracts and so on, though e-mail replaced it in many cases, yeah, but fax isn't dead
[05:28] <soadkombucha> I find it funny that the Ubuntu support channel is still IRC
[05:29] <chaz> soadkombucha: What do you think it should be?
[05:29] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: makes sense, what would you use instead?
[05:29] <supernothing> you know, just go all the way and use avian tcp: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1149.html
[05:29] <soadkombucha> chaz: Nothing else, but still. IRC is not very common anymore
[05:29] <SirMoo> We really need a cow friendly version. How many cows do you see using a computer? None. I propose someone creates Moobuntu. A cow friendly OS.
[05:29] <chaz> soadkombucha: Maybe Jabber. That's about all i'd use in it's place.
[05:29] <soadkombucha> The only times I see IRC are 1) For Linux support and 2) to promote illegal activities
[05:29] <Cathal> greetings all
[05:29] <yuan> 22
[05:29] <coz_> SirMoo,  yes we can "milk" it for all its worth
[05:30] <preecher> wat is jabber
[05:30] <cntrational> soadkombucha: you haven't seen irc enough
[05:30] <Cathal> have a Q about installing Ubuntu on an old Mas G3
[05:30] <yuan> CHINES
[05:30] <soadkombucha> cntrational: I don't hang around IRC I grew up in the AIM age
[05:30] <Cathal> MAC G3
[05:30] <chaz> preecher: A different protocol.
[05:30] <soadkombucha> cntrational: Just so happens I'm on a handful of sites that use IRC as their chatrooms
[05:30] <preecher> o ok
[05:30] <yuan> CHINES
[05:31] <ubutom_> icq is now russian owned, but that's kinda ot
[05:31] <soadkombucha> preecher: The same messaging protocol GTalk is based off of
[05:31] <SirMoo> Farmers will have better milk yield with happy cows... Happy cows that surf the web.
[05:31] <ubutom_> !cn > yuan
[05:31] <soadkombucha> preecher: XMPP
[05:31] <yuan> WO BU REN SHI YING WEN
[05:31] <yuan> WO DE XI TON SHI GANG ZHUAN DE
[05:32] <ubutom_> !cn | yuan
[05:32] <supernothing> OMG I'M yuan MY CAPS LOCK IS PERMANENTLY STUCK IN THE ON POSITION
[05:32] <xiong> I just passed 30 days uptime!
[05:32] <SirMoo> Isn't it slightly odd that Ubottu says to see the private message in English, not the native language?
[05:32] <cntrational> soadkombucha: NO WAY
[05:32] <cntrational> ER
[05:32] <cntrational> supernothing: NO WAY
[05:32] <Flannel> Please stop that.
[05:33] <cntrational> ok
[05:33] <actionParsnip> SirMoo: could let the guys in #ubuntu-ops know
[05:33] <Cathal> dang busy in here, isn't it?!
[05:33] <cntrational> Cathal: maybe!?
[05:33] <Cathal> where would I go for help installing Ubuntu on a Mac?
[05:33] <ubutom_> !ask @ Cathal
[05:34] <coz_> you know guys....being a family  channel as well as official support channel for ubuntu.... I would think you would be a bit less "chatty"
[05:34] <supernothing> cntrational: IT'S TRUE.  Native language? Or my ingenious idea to capitalize on cow related web surfing with Moobuntu?
[05:34] <ubutom_> !apple | Cathal
[05:34] <xiong> That's 30 days without a reboot and yes, I've been doing stuff; my swap is half a meg full (and I notice the kernel isn't very swappy). Take that, M$.
[05:34] <coz_> SirMoo,  well...that is more appropriate for  #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:34] <Neo31> In windows RDP does this : Port Redirection allows applications running within the terminal session to access local serial ports directly. >> any idea on how to do it in linux?
[05:34] <cntrational> Cathal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootCamp
[05:34] <ubutom_> Cathal, since it is PPC, good place to ask there I guess
[05:35] <cntrational> no wait
[05:35] <Cathal> thanks
[05:35] <cntrational> this page is useless
[05:36] <xiong> Cathal, It's always a good idea to browse heavily for background. But you're welcome to talk about Mac install here. Which kind of Mac?
[05:36] <Cathal> yeah, the Mac in question is running 9.2
[05:36] <Cathal> its an old Mac G3
[05:36] <UbuntuLily> HOw do I check for hard disk errors (Physical)?  (In Winblow it was chkdsk /f/r )
[05:36] <cntrational> is it a powerPC or inte- powerPC, then
[05:36] <xiong> Cathal, You will not get Ubuntu on that, sorry.
[05:36] <ubutom_> G3 is powerpc
[05:37] <supernothing> UbubtuLily: fsck
[05:37] <hasek79> can you watch quicktime file formats on the internet? is there a plugin for the web browsers to see them?
[05:37] <xiong> Cathal, You may want to look into one of the Yellow Dog distros. Also, OpenSUSE supports PPC.
[05:37] <yuan> BU HU YONG ZHE GE
[05:37] <Cathal> I used to work with open suse, back when it was 10.0
[05:37] <cntrational> well actually you can sorta isntall ubuntu
[05:37] <ubutom_> !cn | yuan
[05:37] <supernothing> UbuntuLily: chkdsk only checks for filesystem errors though, if i remember correctly...been awhile since i've been on the windows though
[05:37] <coz_> yuan,  are you sure you are not being silly now?
[05:37] <Flannel> yuan: This channel is english only, please join #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[05:37] <xiong> Cathal, Not to discourage you but I did spend quite a long time trying to get Linux on a PPC machine. There's much to be said for getting new hardware. No offense.
[05:38] <actionParsnip> UbuntuLily: fsck -a /dev/partitionname    (if you use -r for chkdsk)
[05:38] <cntrational> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPC apparently there are community supported PPC releases
[05:38] <Cathal> heh, well, this is a toy for now
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> I agree with xiong -  i worked at getting linux on my imac DV  ( a 500mhz ppc) and basically  it was more trouble then it was worth.
[05:38] <UbuntuLily> kool thanx
[05:38] <UbuntuLily> how do I get part name?
[05:38] <Cathal> if I do get it up. it'll only be for formatting, or re-formatting ebooks.
[05:38] <actionParsnip> UbuntuLily: you can also use ultimate boot disk to test it with the manufacturers tools (will require CD / USB to boot from)
[05:39] <actionParsnip> UbuntuLily: sudo fdisk -l     will (L)ist the partitions
[05:39] <supernothing> UbuntuLily: System->Administration->Disk Utility will let you find hardware issues i believe as well
[05:39] <supernothing> if you need those
[05:39] <xiong> Cathal, If you're looking at it as a way to salvage old hardware, maybe yes.
[05:39] <yuan> ZHE SHI
[05:39] <xiong> I wasn't aware that there was *any* PPC Ubuntu port.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> !java
[05:39] <soadkombucha> supernothing: chkdsk only checks for bad hardware sectors
[05:39] <soadkombucha> xiong: it exists
[05:40] <soadkombucha> supernothing: On an HDD
[05:40] <actionParsnip> xiong: sure there are ppc version
[05:40] <UbuntuLily> Well my issue is I am trying to install mythubuntu and I got an IO error.  The error said it could be the CD or the hard drive, but since I pulled this PC off a shelf its been sitting on for like a year I wanted to make sure the hard drive was okay before I go wasting disks
[05:40] <xiong> Well, I would still try OpenSUSE first.
[05:40] <gommle> synergy is lagging, and the sudo workaround isn't working. any ideas?
[05:40] <actionParsnip> xiong: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/lucid/release/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-powerpc.iso
[05:40] <soadkombucha> gommle: What's the sudo workaround?
[05:40] <soadkombucha> gommle: Did you try sudo -s??
[05:40] <gommle> simply running as superuser.
[05:40] <gommle> synergyc that is
[05:40] <soadkombucha> gommle: What exactly is synergyc?
[05:40] <supernothing> soadkombucha: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/chkdsk.mspx?mfr=true it checks the filesystem according to this
[05:41] <holocene> msg nickserv indentify xchat666
[05:41] <soadkombucha> supernothing: Yeah.
[05:41] <supernothing> you can't "correct" physical failures
[05:41] <gommle> program for sharing mouse/keyboard over network
[05:41] <soadkombucha> supernothing: You never can
[05:41] <cntrational> Cathal: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/lucid/release/ here's a powerPC port of lucid
[05:41] <ubutom_> UbuntuLily, if that I/o error is during install or before rebooting, thats a thing the livecd has on all my pc
[05:41] <soadkombucha> gommle: Did you try gksudo?
[05:41] <ly> hai
[05:41] <ubutom_> UbuntuLily, no need to worry about that
[05:42] <ly> dajiaha
[05:42] <xiong> actionParsnip, Thank you but I'm not going that way. I have one old G3 running 9.2.2 and I'm keeping it just that way, until I get all my files from it. I may keep it around for specialized graphics work.
[05:42] <soadkombucha> gommle: With QuickSynergy?
[05:42] <UbuntuLily> I dont think it finished tho
[05:42] <supernothing> soadkombucha: never is such a dirty word. it's very difficult to. and you definitely can't do it in software, unless you mean write around it. but yeah, ckdsk cleans filesystems, not checks disks for failures afaik
[05:42] <gommle> installing quicksynergy now. But I doubt it will work, as it's simply a GUI
[05:42] <UbuntuLily> it was 48 % thru, than I got the IO error than I went to get a drink and the installer was gone
[05:43] <ly> 大家好阿
[05:43] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: What speed did you burn the disc at
[05:43] <ly> 大家好阿
[05:43] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: Try to reburn the image on a disc that supports 2.4x and burn it that slow
[05:43] <Cathal> thank you cntrational, that's just what I needed. here's hoping it works. I want to completely wipe the old OS and rebuild from scratch is possible.
[05:43] <test34> Any firewall program that is similar to ZoneAlarm?
[05:43] <aurilliance> Does anyone here have an egalax touchscreen? I'm having trouble getting mine to handle rotation...
[05:43] <UbuntuLily> high- think 20x
[05:43] <ubutom_> UbuntuLily, ah, ok, that's different then, got it only in the shell before the disc unmounts after installing
[05:43] <yuan> 这个东西怎么用 b］
[05:43] <actionParsnip> !firewall | test34
[05:43] <UbuntuLily> is there a way to do an integrity check on the disk?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> test34:  firewalls in linux work in a radically different way then they do in windows. So somthing like zone alarm is really not needed.
[05:44] <ubutom_> !cn | yuan
[05:44] <cntrational> Cathal: it's not an official port, though
[05:44] <Cathal> will, it update if I connect it?
[05:44] <cntrational> probably
[05:44] <yuan> ＃ubuntu-hk
[05:44] <Cathal> *nods*
[05:44] <Cathal> that's all I really need then
[05:45] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: What kind of disc?
[05:45] <yuan> 这个东西不会搞
[05:45] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: Ubuntu install disc?
[05:45] <Cathal> like I said, it will be primarily for formatting ebooks.
[05:45] <test34> Dr_Willis, Some are radically different, but they should clone zonealarm
[05:45] <yuan> 第一回用
[05:45] <test34> #ubuntu.jp
[05:45] <UbuntuLily> Ya - Mythbuntu to be exact
[05:45] <ly> 怎么完这个阿
[05:45] <soadkombucha> test34: They don't need to yet...Windows is much more compromised
[05:45] <actionParsnip> test34: submit the idea at: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com ;)
[05:45] <ly> 我不会完阿
[05:45] <bazhang> yuan, english here  ly you too
[05:46] <ly> 有的讲一下阿
[05:46] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: When you boot there should be a boot and verify option
[05:46] <ubutom_> yuan 这仅是英语频道。为了获得在中国的帮助，请键入/加入＃Ubuntu的- cn的
[05:46] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: But like I said, try reburning the ISO at 2.4x
[05:46] <bazhang> yuan ly #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[05:46] <sha1sum> Hey all. I think my disc got corrupt somehow, and I don't have another burner around. I'm using the livecd for 10.04 now, and I'd like to know if there's a way I can just install from the network packages, but from the live cd?
[05:46] <UbuntuLily> Ill do that too
[05:46] <ly> 不知道
[05:46] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: Generally a slower burn speed results in less chance of the disc failing
[05:46] <test34> soadkombucha, i like to know when a program that isnt supposed to access the net actually tries
[05:47] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: For future advice, NEVER burn an ISO image at full write speed.
[05:47] <UbuntuLily> yes, normally I burn slower, i just wasn't thinkin
[05:47] <test34> actionParsnip, I'll take a look, thanks
[05:47] <ly> ti
[05:47] <gommle> sha1sum, the USB install works nicely, and you don't have to format it either. just a heads up
[05:47] <soadkombucha> UbuntuLily: Ahh alright
[05:47] <ly> 什么玩意阿
[05:47] <UbuntuLily> thanx! kiss ;)
[05:47] <sha1sum> gommle: awesome. where can I get it?
[05:47] <sin_tax> Is a single ext partition with ubuntu installed a bad way to start a dual boot (ubuntu / *dows) setup?  Or can I modify the partition and use GRUB or something to do the dual boot?
[05:47] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: Download the ISO
[05:47] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: And download unetbootin
[05:48] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: And it will write the ISO image to a bootable USB drive for you
[05:48] <gommle> sha1sum, I only used the GUI for windows, but I assume it exists for ubuntu too
[05:48] <soadkombucha> unetbootin?
[05:48] <soadkombucha> It exists cross platform
[05:48] <sha1sum> soadkombucha: can you give me the URL for the ISO for 32 bit 10.04? Firefox is one of the sectors of the disc that is corrupt so I have to use wget I guess
[05:48] <crdlb> sin_tax: you should install windows first
[05:48] <sin_tax> I was afraid of that :-(
[05:49] <cntrational> the best way is to install windows then ubuntu
[05:49] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso
[05:49] <the_file> I just downloaded an ati driver its a .run file, how do I install it?.
[05:49] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: Actually..
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> Unless of course you count the best way as locking up  the windows cd.. and not even installing windows at all. :)
[05:49] <crdlb> the_file: what GPU do you have?
[05:49] <sha1sum> cool thanks
[05:49] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: If you download unetbootin
[05:50] <the_file> crappy
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> the_file:  chmod +x whatever.run, then ./whatever.run
[05:50] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: It will download the ISO file for you through the gui
[05:50] <the_file> ATI Radeon Xpress 1250
[05:50] <the_file> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.12&lang=English
[05:50] <crdlb> the_file: that driver won't work, then
[05:50] <Cathal> Dr_Willis personally, id burn the winblows CD. but that's just me
[05:50] <Cathal> ;-)
[05:50] <the_file> howcome?
[05:50] <actionParsnip> the_file: mark it as executable and run it in a terminal
[05:50] <gommle> same GPU as me. the built in works perfectly.
[05:51] <crdlb> the_file: I don't think the legacy version works on recent kernel/Xorg versions
[05:51] <PiperMan> hello people
[05:51] <PiperMan> sad night tonight
[05:51] <the_file> oww
[05:51] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: apt-get install unetbootin
[05:51] <the_file> u sure?
[05:51] <the_file> cause its a linux driver
[05:51] <soadkombucha>  The ATI non-free driver works perfectly fine
[05:52] <actionParsnip> the_file: if you have an older chip the open driver will service you
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> the_file:  its always a good idea to tell us exactly what it is.
[05:52] <Raj> hi there
[05:52] <crdlb> the_file: considering it was released over a year before lucid, I'm pretty sure it won't run on 10.04 at least
[05:52] <the_file> heh
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> the_file:  with some video card drivers, you may need to Exit out of X and run them from the Console.
[05:52] <the_file> so why would ubuntu just drop support?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> the_file:  ubuntu dident.. ati did.
[05:52] <Raj> i need some help with respect to WiFI on 10.04
[05:52] <PiperMan> @Raj hello pal
[05:52] <the_file> OWW
[05:52] <soadkombucha> Raj: What wifi card?
[05:52] <actionParsnip> crdlb: it'll run, just maybe not with ful 3d goodness, vesa driver can run any chip
[05:53] <PiperMan> Raj: have i seen u here b4?
[05:53] <Raj> i dono what card it is
[05:53] <gommle> the_file, SYstem->administration->hardware drivers
[05:53] <Raj> no
[05:53] <actionParsnip> !ask | raj
[05:53] <Raj> this is my first time
[05:53] <soadkombucha> Raj: Can you find out?
[05:53] <actionParsnip> Raj: what is the output of: sudo lshw -C network | grep -i product
[05:53] <crdlb> actionParsnip: I'm talking about the legacy fglrx driver specifically
[05:53] <the_file> k
[05:53] <actionParsnip> crdlb: gotcha
[05:53] <Raj> soadkobucha: how to find out?
[05:53] <the_file> so I am in terminal how do I install the driver?
[05:53] <aurilliance> actionParsnip, Hi there!
[05:53] <actionParsnip> Raj: i told you how you can find out above
[05:53] <aurilliance> Does anyone here have an egalax touchscreen? I'm having trouble getting mine to handle rotation...
[05:54] <actionParsnip> hi aurilliance
[05:54] <mneptok> Raj: lspci
[05:54] <actionParsnip> mneptok: might be usb ;)
[05:54] <Raj> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo lshw -C network | grep -i product        product: 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller        product: PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection
[05:54] <Raj> that was the output
[05:54] <mneptok> actionParsnip: one thing at a time
[05:54] <actionParsnip> mneptok: lshw covers both ;)
[05:55] <SIREN> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:55] <mneptok> Raj: so what is the issue? the 3945 has been supported in the kernel for a few years.
[05:55] <actionParsnip> Raj: what is the output of: lsb_release -c    ?
[05:56] <Raj> Codename:	lucid
[05:57] <Raj> is the output of lsb_release
[05:57] <Raj> its very confusing here
[05:57] <mneptok> Raj: what is the exact symptom you are experiencing?
[05:57] <Raj> well, it says connected but when i try to browse the net
[05:58] <Raj> it is not working
[05:58] <Raj> it asks for password
[05:58] <Raj> again n again
[05:58] <aurilliance> I'm trying to get my touchscreen to work when I rotate the screen, does anyone have any pointers?
[05:58] <mneptok> Raj: pastebin the output of "ifconfig"
[05:58] <mneptok> Raj: and please keep answers on one line
[05:58] <Raj> ok
[05:59] <mneptok> Raj: and what encryption schema does the WAP use? WEP? WPA? WPA2?
[05:59] <Raj> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:19:d2:53:07:42             inet6 addr: fe80::219:d2ff:fe53:742/64 Scope:Link           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:665 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:789 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000            RX bytes:89775 (89.7 KB)  TX bytes:127487 (127.4 KB)
[05:59] <Raj> I chose WPA and WPA2
[05:59] <soadkombucha> What torrent client would you recommend? Transmission or KTorrent
[05:59] <mneptok> Raj: well, what does the AP actually use?
[06:00] <Raj> what is AP?
[06:00] <mneptok> Raj: access point
[06:00] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: i use transmission due to my phone being able to talk beautifully with it, both are great, if you use gnome and instal ktorrent you will pull in a tonne of qt libs
[06:00] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: I have multiple desktop managers installed
[06:00] <actionParsnip> Raj: does it connect with no security
[06:00] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: I have the space for it. I've been using transmission.. I wanted to try out KTorrent
[06:00] <soadkombucha> I'm partial to the utorrentesque GUI
[06:01] <Raj> let me chk
[06:01] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: ok then both are good, ktorrent has a web ui too but you have to install php5-cli extra (last I used kde it was needed)
[06:01] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: go for it then dude, its free to try
[06:01] <sha1sum> soadkombucha: is there any way I can skip the USB thing and load the iso via loopback or something and do it that way?
[06:01] <soadkombucha> sha1sum: I don't know
[06:01] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: I have kde installed
[06:01] <cntrational> soadkombucha: i like transmission
[06:02] <soadkombucha> cntrational: I'm a utorrent fanboy
[06:02] <soadkombucha> cntrational: KTorrent is closer than Transmission
[06:02] <soadkombucha> Torrenting works better on linux I get better speeds.
[06:02] <cntrational> hmmm
[06:02] <mneptok> !enter
[06:02] <cntrational> well i don't really know much about KTorrent
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> Transmission 2.0 is out in the PPA's also. :) been using that for the last few weeeks.
[06:03] <Raj> will be back.. i'm using LAN right now...
[06:03] <soadkombucha> cntrational: There is nothing wrong with transmission
[06:03] <Raj> will chk connecting to WiFI
[06:03] <soadkombucha> Transmission 2 is out?
[06:03] <cntrational> yeah, it is
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> Theres PPA's of it yes. soadkombucha
[06:03] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: PPA?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> Transmission is still a little lacking in some ways. but 2.0 has some good improbements
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> !ppa
[06:04] <face> I've been having some trouble getting my monitor to configure correctly.  Is there anyone who could help me?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/install-transmission-20-in-ubuntu.html
[06:04] <cntrational> basically a PPA is more or less a special repository for a single program
[06:05] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/transmission-20-released-new-ui-filters.html
[06:05] <usf> my external hard drive is no more detected on ubuntu 10.04 and just yesterday it was working,plz help
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> or often a single persons, or groups own  personal repo.
[06:06] <usf> my external hard drive is no more detected on ubuntu 10.04 and just yesterday it was working,plz help
[06:06] <soadkombucha> Got it thanks guys
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> usf:  step #1. try to mount it by hand - using the command line.
[06:07]  * mneptok is reminded to run an fsck on the company's backup disk downstairs
[06:07] <usf> Dr_Willis:it's not detected,how can i do it?
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> usf:  your use of the term 'detected' is vague.. how are you determining its not detected>?
[06:08] <face> Grandr doesn't give me any options other than 1024x768 or 800x600.  My screen is 1600x900.
[06:08] <face> Why is this?
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> usf:  does 'sudo fdisk -l' show it? if so - then it IS being detected by the system.. (gnome may be confused)
[06:08] <soadkombucha> usf: You can mount a hidden partition
[06:08] <usf> Dr_Willis:not in  /media
[06:08] <soadkombucha> sudo mkdir /media/disk
[06:09] <face> I've been told to edit my xorg, but that caused problems for me too, and I had to reconfigure the file.
[06:09] <actionParsnip> face: what video card?
[06:09] <face> Hold on
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> usf:  thats not showing that its not 'detected' by the system.. check fdisk -l output, and 'dmesg' output.
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> usf:  If you can determine what '/dev/sdXX' it is. then you can try to mount it by hand.
[06:09] <actionParsnip> face: lspci | grep -i vga     will tell you
[06:09] <silv3r_m00n> does cron have any other command other than crontab ?
[06:10] <actionParsnip> !cron | silv3r_m00n
[06:10] <the_file> so is there anyway to get my motherboard graphic card driver to work?
[06:10] <soadkombucha> usf: then sudo mount -t /dev/sdb (or what fdisk shows) /media/disk
[06:11] <soadkombucha> usf: then sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb (or what fdisk shows) /media/disk
[06:11] <face> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 0046 (rev 12)
[06:11] <usf> Dr_Willis:when i type lsusb it gives that is detected
[06:11] <face> That
[06:11] <face> s the output.
[06:11] <actionParsnip> face: oh, one of those. yeah you'll need an xorg.conf file dude. You'll be fighting it until you get a nice display
[06:12] <face> Okay, okay.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> usf:  determina what /dev/sdXX it is.. and use commands like soadkombucha  posted.. but he did a typo. :)    it will be like /dev/sdb1  not /dev/sdb
[06:12] <face> Would you be kind enough to help me with that?
[06:12] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: OK sorry.
[06:12] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i have a 16gig flash drive and i have ubuntu 10.04 installed on it (8gigs) and swap (2gigs) allocated towards linux and the remaining free space, i'm planning on allocating toward data, (fat format). i'm planning on using public computers to access this partition. should i be worried about this because i may catch a virus or something that corrupts my OS or is it wise to get a new flash drive for storing data?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  ive seen cases where you do uise /dev/sdb :) but proberly not in this case.
[06:13] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: The only reason I remember that command is because I needed it to manually downgrade to patch the firmware on my archos
[06:13] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: And my archos used /dev/sdb
[06:13] <the_file> were can I install compiz fusion?.
[06:13] <the_file> software center?
[06:13] <soadkombucha> the_file: Ubuntu Software Center
[06:13] <the_file> I can't find it there
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  yep. Some times you can do it that way.
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  also optical disks are often /dev/sdb or sdc. but thats getting more uncomon these days also.
[06:14] <hanasaki> what's a good admin tool and modeling and does table diff etc for mysql, postgresql and oracle?
[06:14] <hanasaki> free
[06:14] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: Well I even modified the command I posted, because I had to use -o
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[06:15] <face> actionParsnip, I followed the instructions here (http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/7168/vga-output-to-a-169-tv/), and when I rebooted the computer I got, "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode."
[06:15] <the_file> were can I donwload compiz fusion?.
[06:15] <aurilliance> I'm trying to get my touchscreen to work when I rotate the screen, does anyone have any pointers?
[06:15] <actionParsnip> the_file: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:15] <actionParsnip> face: yeah you'll have to jig the file
[06:15] <face> "Jig"?
[06:15] <actionParsnip> face: tweak, modify
[06:16] <soadkombucha> the_file: sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:16] <face> Oh, I see.
[06:16] <hanasaki> face:  what are you trying to do
[06:16] <actionParsnip> face: its derrived from jiggle
[06:16] <face> I figured.
[06:16] <actionParsnip> face: try adding refresh rates to the monitor section in xorg.conf too, this can help
[06:16] <face> I just didn't want to make assumptions with computer - possibly -terms.
[06:16] <face> Um, hold on a second.
[06:17] <soadkombucha> usf: Any luck?
[06:17] <usf> nothing yet
[06:18] <face> Hanasaki, I'm trying to adjust screen resolution,
[06:18] <soadkombucha> I need to download a real IRC client
[06:18] <usf> soadkombucha:the both of them didn't work
[06:18] <face> Is there a specific way to add a screen resolution in xorg, actionParsnip?
[06:18] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: irssi
[06:18] <Raj> WiFi problems
[06:18] <soadkombucha> usf: Hrm
[06:18] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: I would rather a GUI
[06:19] <actionParsnip> face: yes they are defined in the screen section
[06:19] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: xchat
[06:19] <usf>  sudo mount -t /dev/sdb  /media/disk gives the manual of mount
[06:19] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: i use pidgin personally
[06:19] <face> The screen section
[06:19] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: I've used pidgin's IRC
[06:19] <face> Section "Screen"
[06:19] <face> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[06:19] <face> 	Monitor		"Configured Monitor"
[06:19] <face> 	Device		"Configured Video Device"
[06:19] <face> EndSection
[06:19] <FloodBot2> face: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:19] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: Not the biggest fan.
[06:20] <actionParsnip> !irc | soadkombucha
[06:20] <face> Do I add a new variable?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> usf:  you dont weant /dev/sdb you proberly want /dev/sdb1
[06:20] <usf> and sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb /media/disk gives me no medium found
[06:20] <usf> in /dev i have only /sdb
[06:20] <Raj> mneptok: r u there?
[06:20] <greezmunkey> face: you can step through your screen resolutions by holding down ctrl+atl and then hitting (+) plus or (-) minus
[06:20] <face> No, sorry.
[06:20] <actionParsnip> face: thats why then, find some example xorg.conf files and see how resolutio is defined
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> usf:  that is weird then.  what does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb' show then?
[06:20] <face> I see
[06:20] <aurilliance> Does anyone here have a touchscreen?
[06:20] <face> Will do, actionParsnip
[06:21] <face> And greezmunkey, it's not offering my specific resolution.
[06:21] <sharedLan> ugh that was a doozey
[06:21] <face> by "it" I mean grandr
[06:21] <greezmunkey> face: rodger that, just fyi
[06:21] <the_file> off fuck how do I get the pannels back?.
[06:22] <soadkombucha> Ahh a real IRC client so much better
[06:22] <usf> Dr_Willis:sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives nothing
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanels | the_file
[06:22] <cntrational> soadkombucha: irssi is nice
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> usf:  thats even stranger.  how about the tail end of 'dmesg' does it mention the usb devices at all?
[06:22] <soadkombucha> cntrational: irssi is nice but I didn't want to be in terminal
 then what are you using
[06:22] <soadkombucha> cntrational, XChat
[06:22] <cntrational> oh
[06:22] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: i used to use it in guake
[06:22] <mercutio22> I think I have some configuration problem... audio playback does not work only for my user apparently
[06:23] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: haha nice
[06:23] <ConfusedLinux_> hey
[06:23] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: screen irssi ?
[06:23] <soadkombucha> hey ConfusedLinux_
[06:23] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: Hmm?
[06:23] <soadkombucha> Why does XChat default to , on a tab
[06:23] <ConfusedLinux_> can someone help me dual boot W7 and Kubuntu using Wubi
[06:23] <ConfusedLinux_> im new to linux
[06:23] <ConfusedLinux_> and wubi gives an error
[06:23] <ruari> waz the error?
[06:23] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i have a 16gig flash drive and i have ubuntu 10.04 installed on it (8gigs) and swap (2gigs) allocated towards linux and the remaining free space, i'm planning on allocating toward data, (fat format). i'm planning on using public computers to access this partition. should i be worried about this because i may catch a virus or something that corrupts my OS or is it wise to get a new flash drive for storing data?
[06:23] <sharedLan> ugggh
[06:24] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: You're probably going to want to try and run it with the option acpi=off.
[06:24] <ConfusedLinux_> lemme get the error
[06:24] <Raj> hi there
[06:24] <ConfusedLinux_> soad how do i do that
[06:24] <actionParsnip> !virus | paranoidphreak
[06:24] <Raj> my wifi is not working properly... it keeps on asking for password.. i'm using 10.04 using live cd
[06:24] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: I'm not very familiar with Wubi
[06:24] <sharedLan> paranoid...no you should be protected mildly
[06:24] <ConfusedLinux_> eh
[06:24] <slacker-> Hi guys, I've just upgraded from jaunty to lucid. All seems to work ok except the screen doesn't show anything any more. I'm thinking maybe a framebuffer thing, beacuse I had framebuffer set up previously but now I cannot find the right file where it is configured. Any suggestions?
[06:24] <ConfusedLinux_> ill type out the error
[06:24] <usf> in /dev i have only /sdb
[06:24] <actionParsnip> slacker-: did you stop at karmic?
[06:25] <soadkombucha> usf: You could try to mount that
[06:25] <greezmunkey> paranoidphreak: if you are booting into your flash drive, then all that will be there is your OS...
[06:25] <usf> Dr_Willis: dmesg|grep sdb* gives[  186.712164] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[06:25] <soadkombucha> usf: try sudo mount -t ntfs o=0 /dev/sdb /media/disk
[06:25] <slacker-> actionParsnip: I don't konw if it worked for karmic because it did the upgrade remotely
[06:25] <sharedLan> anti-virus on a ssd usb stick would be extreamly slow
[06:25] <ConfusedLinux_> by the way, im trying to install Kubuntu Netbook for dual boot with windows 7
[06:25] <actionParsnip> slacker-: no, when you upgraded from jaunty to lucid, did you upgrade to karmic first?
[06:25] <paranoidphreak> greezmunkey: i'm planning on using windows machine to access the data (fat) partition
[06:26] <slacker-> actionParsnip: I also replaced grub1 with grub2 afterwards but that didn't seem to change anything
[06:26] <soadkombucha> usf: Try that
[06:26] <Raj> need help
[06:26] <ConfusedLinux_> ok soad
[06:26] <ConfusedLinux_> heres the error
[06:26] <slacker-> actionParsnip: yes I did. using do-release-upgrade each time
[06:26] <soadkombucha> usf: try sudo mount -t ntfs -o offset=0 /dev/sdb /media/disk
[06:26] <actionParsnip> slacker-: ok just checking
[06:26] <greezmunkey> paranoidphreak: well then, the usual precautions apply
[06:26] <soadkombucha> usf: It'll try to mount it with the partition as the first cylinder of the drive
[06:26] <actionParsnip> slacker-: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[06:27] <slacker-> actionParsnip: from the syslog I see that it's loading vga16fb
[06:27] <ConfusedLinux_> An error occured: Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO. For more information, please see the log file : c:\blablablabla
[06:27] <evodragun> Hi everyone
[06:27] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: You can't even get it installed?
[06:27] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: I have no idea.
[06:27] <slacker-> ah..
[06:27] <soadkombucha> Hey evodragun
[06:27] <sharedLan> is there  a fi for ati 70000ve on-board--boot issues loop...hd scans...repeats or crashes..
[06:27] <evodragun> Someone knows in spanish chanel
[06:27] <sharedLan> fix^^
[06:27] <ConfusedLinux_> yeah soad
[06:27] <slacker-> actionParsnip: thanks, I'll check that site in a sec once I moved to a machine that has X on it ;)
[06:27] <evodragun> Hi Soadkombucha
[06:28] <ConfusedLinux_> can anyone help me with Wubi here?
[06:28] <paranoidphreak> actionParsnip: oh, i know that you dont need an antivirus in linux but i'm planning on sometimes accessing using public machines that have windows installed on it
[06:28] <ruari> doesn't look like it is supported yet on windows 7,
[06:28] <usf> soadkombucha:the command gives :/dev/sdb: No medium found
[06:28] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Spanish channel is ubuntu-es if that's what you're looking for. But what's up?
[06:28] <ConfusedLinux_> gr
[06:28] <soadkombucha> ruari: I got wubi installed on win7
[06:28] <evodragun> I newby
[06:28] <sharedLan> ^^
[06:28] <soadkombucha> ruari: But I couldn't run it because it uses the windows boot loader and my hardware won't load it unless it's noacpi
[06:28] <ruari> why not use vmplayer or virtual box?
[06:28] <sharedLan> sevearl people have installed from win7?
[06:28] <evodragun> I need a lot of help
[06:29] <ruari> aw
[06:29] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Such as?
[06:29] <usf> soadkombucha:it's a external hard drive with usb connecter
[06:29] <Raj> hi there. i'm using Ubuntu 10.04 live cd and connected via Wired network.. my wireless is not getting connected properly. Please help me out
[06:29] <soadkombucha> ruari: I have a working Ubuntu 10.04  2.6.32-22-generic
[06:29] <evodragun> I own of samsung N130 netbook
[06:29] <usf> soadkombucha:it's sata
[06:29] <usf> soadkombucha:it's not sata
[06:29] <paranoidphreak> greezmunkey: so, i can lose everything from the flash drive if the virus attacks the flash drive?
[06:29] <evodragun> I have lucid
[06:29] <sharedLan> raj configure the wifi manually?
[06:29] <soadkombucha> usf: It's IDE? Could that be the problem?
[06:29] <xiaozhang> ubuntu中文频道是哪个？？
[06:29] <greezmunkey> paranoidphreak: um, is you ubuntu on the fat partition?
[06:29] <sharedLan> paranoid? not if you remove it
[06:29] <evodragun> But I can comunicate with msn on webcam
[06:30] <usf> soadkombucha:how can i know this??
[06:30] <soadkombucha> usf: If it's not SATA it's probably IDE
[06:30] <ruari> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy1ISEJIv84   wubi windows 7
[06:30] <paranoidphreak> greezmunkey: no, it's on ext3
[06:30] <soadkombucha> evodragun: I don't know if you can
[06:30] <ConfusedLinux_> i installed Ubuntu 10.04 the other day to run the game Starcraft , and whenever I play it for about 3-6 minutes, it either says that the game isnt installed or just quits me to the ubuntu login screen
[06:30] <evodragun> With any program??
[06:30] <paranoidphreak> greezmunkey: i'm using fat just to store data
[06:30] <usf> soadkombucha:okey yesterday it works perfectly
[06:30] <greezmunkey> paranoidphreak: exactly, I would think any virus activity on the fat partition would only affect that partition.
[06:31] <hanasaki> what is a good mountaable shared filesystem? with ACL and encryption over the network?
[06:31] <Raj> sharedLan: i need some guidance to configure WiFI
[06:31] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Maybe aMSN
[06:31] <sharedLan> a virus can infect any media installed unless it's read only
[06:31] <usf> soadkombucha:i have this problem only with lucid,
[06:31] <sharedLan> kk
[06:31] <evodragun> Nop dont work
[06:31] <sharedLan> my mouse is messed up so i'm kinda slow getting to pm's
[06:31] <evodragun> I try de Emense but nothing
[06:32] <ConfusedLinux_> Is there an easy way to dual boot Windows 7 and Linux Mint 9 or Windows 7 and Kubuntu 10.04?
[06:32] <paranoidphreak> actionParsnip, greezmunkey: thanks for the info
[06:32] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: Installing Windows first and then installing Linux
[06:32] <evodragun> I read alot about Empathy an say soppurt webcam but nothing
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  if you have 2 hard drives.. that makes it very very easy.
[06:32] <greezmunkey> sharedLan: it would have to be a darned smart virus to cross over from fat to ext3...especially if the ext3 isn't even mounted...
[06:32] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Hmm. Try installing Cheese, see if your webcam is recognized
[06:32] <evodragun> I tested an is okay
[06:32] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: screen irssi >> http://imagebin.org/102986
[06:32] <actionParsnip> !wine | ConfusedLinux_
[06:32] <soadkombucha> evodragun: That's odd
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  with 1 hd. you may want to resize the windows partition from within windows. leave part of the HD unallocated. and let the ubuntu installer install to that unalocated space.
[06:33] <evodragun> Odd???
[06:33] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: How would I do that
[06:33] <Raj> hi there. i'm using Ubuntu 10.04 live cd and connected via Wired network.. my wireless is not getting connected properly. Please help me out using private message
[06:33] <ConfusedLinux_> dr_willis: i tried wine, starcraft still boots me out
[06:33] <actionParsnip> wise_crypt: you can get rid of the guake icon in the tray you know
[06:33] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: People really install windows to just one partition on a hard drive?
[06:33] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: try adding the wine ppa then upgrading
[06:33] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: ya still need it lol
[06:34] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: I have irssi
[06:34] <aurilliance> Does anyone here have a touchscreen?
[06:34] <ConfusedLinux_> actionParsnip: whats wine ppa? im new to linux if you cant tell
[06:34] <greezmunkey> paranoidphreak: if you are that worried, keep your ubuntu ssd in your pocket when using public pcs, get another one for transferring files. They're pretty cheap these days.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  someone posted the drive layout on their new win7 boxx in here the other day.. windows 7 + the hp recovery partition took up all 4 primary partitions.. that was a total mess.
[06:34] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:34] <Adem> how do i modify my font config file?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  win7 likes to use 2 primary partitions  these days one for some sort of /boot/ feature. (ive never used it)
[06:35] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: you may be new to linux but not new to websearching, instead of asking, take direction and run with it instead of asking. you'll learn more and faster
[06:35] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: It allocates 100MB for the boot sector files
[06:35] <greezmunkey> Dr_Willis: I remember watching you work through that with him, it was pretty sticky.
[06:35] <ConfusedLinux_> actionParsnip: i did, ive been trying to find answers on google for at least a week. nothing
[06:35] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: I have that 100MB because Ubuntu is easier to dualboot if you install windows first
[06:35] <b14ck> How can I remove a group from a user? I accidentally assigned one of my users to the group 'www-data', and I'd like to remove that group from the user. I'm using server edition, so I need the command line argument, not the GUI tool.
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> greezmunkey:  i dont know if he ever got it going or not. I love how PC makers take up a huge part of your HD so they dont have to include optical-recovery media.. THEN charge you extra for the  disks.
[06:36] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi
[06:36] <greezmunkey> Dr_Willis: exactly!
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  i keep the oss on their own hd's that makes it even easier. :)
[06:36] <aurilliance> I have 3 disks on my pc that I am installing ubuntu on. How should I format them
[06:36] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: My laptop only has one drive
[06:36] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: try a different search engine if google fails you
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  depends On your needs.
[06:37] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis, I want to install ubuntu on the largest one, and then use the other two simply for storage
[06:37] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: And I think I'm going to resize my extended data partition and install Chromium OS just to try it out. Or attempt to get Hackintosh running
[06:37] <greezmunkey> later...
[06:37] <abc11> hao
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  next laptop i get - im buying a 2nd hd just for it to keep the 'windows' system on. and keep it on a shelf. :) and use linux on its own hd.
[06:37] <ConfusedLinux_> actionParsnip: although i highly doubt i will find an answer, ill go check again.
[06:37] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: I don't mind dual booting, it's not a huge deal to me.
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha: it is possible to use grub2 to boot ISO files. Thats a handy way to test out different disrtos.
[06:38] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis, My real q is: should I use ext4 for all of them? And what is the difference between Logical / Primary?
[06:38] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: Especially seeing as the laptop was bought for me as a present and my parents think if I install anything other than Windows to it it will die
[06:38] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: i gave you the full and exact command you neede
[06:38] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: Thaks for everything
[06:38] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis, Can grub2 do that? (boot iso's)?
[06:38] <Doonz> hey does anyone know of a webpage template that acts like googles picasa?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  when in doubt ext4. You can have 4 primary partitions MAX per hard drive.. ONE of those Primaries can be a extended, that holds logicals.
[06:38] <ruari> b14ck: sudo deluser username  groupname
[06:38] <actionParsnip> [06:34] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:38] <evodragun> I have more questions but I see you to busy LOL
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  so if you just need 1 partition per hd. use primarys.
[06:38] <b14ck> ruari, thanks so much :)
[06:38] <soadkombucha> And you can have up to 60 logicals?
[06:38] <ConfusedLinux_> actionParsnip: is there any chance that will mess anything up? what does it even do?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  if you need 4 or less partitions per hd.. use primaries..
[06:38] <evodragun> See you in other time and thanks again
[06:39] <ruari> np
[06:39] <soadkombucha> evodragun: We can answer.
[06:39] <soadkombucha> evodragun: We may look busy, but people just help people whenever, it's not that we're really ignoring anybody.
[06:39] <slacker-> actionParsnip: ok the nomodeset option fixed the console, now how do I get my framebuffer back? I put GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 in /etc/default/grub, will that do it?
[06:39] <soadkombucha> evodragun: And it's not a problem.
[06:39] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: it adds the wine development ppa which is a 3rd party repository (non-canonical) and then upgrades, the version on the wine ppa is later than the canonical version so you will download the later version of wine
[06:39] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: I don't know how to use GRUB2 to boot an ISO
[06:40] <Raj> quit
[06:40] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: Plus Chromium OS isn't live
[06:40] <usf> now my usb flash it's not mounted,i think that every thing is mounted only the first time and after that nothing works
[06:40] <Adem> how do i modify my font config file?
[06:40] <ConfusedLinux_> actionParsnip: okay, I will go re-wubi Ubuntu Netbook and try again. Will you be on here for much longer?
[06:40] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis, one more thing, where should I set my 2 storage drives to mount? /dev/something???
[06:40] <actionParsnip> slacker-: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1483882
[06:40] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: I understand and was a joke
[06:40] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Haha alright
[06:40] <Adem> whats the commandline to install new fonts?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  you DONT mount to /dev/ thats where devices show up
[06:41] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: Thanks
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  /media/stuff
[06:41] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: i'm outt ahere in 50 mins, then back on in 10 after that til about an hour later, then bed cos i'm knackered
[06:41] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis, thanks
[06:41] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Anytime. I'll try to help if I can, sorry I couldn't be more assistance.
[06:41] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: Or /media/Data1 and /media/Data2
[06:41] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: Or he could do /media/DATA and /media/data
[06:42] <ConfusedLinux_> actionParsnip: okay, ill try to do this fast
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> soadkombucha:  yes.. but NOT anything in /dev/  :)
[06:42] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: Haha of course not
[06:42] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: I do have to say I like that Linux is case-sensitive...Although it causes problems in Windows sometimes
[06:42] <ConfusedLinux_> wait soadkombucha what
[06:42] <ConfusedLinux_> it causes windows problems?
[06:42] <slacker-> actionParsnip: I don't have nvidia btw. it's an onboard intel
[06:42] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: Only one last question
[06:43] <Joker> Can someone help me with my microphone issue? I'm running Ubuntu NR 10.04 and none of my programs will recognize my built-in microphone.
[06:43] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: If you had two folders on an NTFS drive that you were using in Ubuntu
[06:43] <slacker-> actionParsnip: will follow anyway and maybe do some searching myself ;)
[06:43] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: And one was /DATA and the other was /data
[06:43] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis, one more thing :P (thanks for all the help btw) it's asking me to choose a swap partition as well, where would be the best place for that?
[06:43] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: In Windows I use software like Ccleaner o Vopt to clean and defrag my unit
[06:43] <ConfusedLinux_> soadkombucha: well considering i have no idea what that means, and I just used wubi, i think ill be alright
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  it can also be an issue with Samba shares. if you have 'DataDir' and 'datadir' on the same share.. windows can get confused and not see one.
[06:43] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: Ubuntu is case sensitive, recognizes them as different folders. Windows thinks DATA and data are the same thing
[06:43] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: In Ubuntu exist something like that??
[06:44] <soadkombucha> evodragun: There are defraggers
[06:44] <Joker> Any help with my problem? :)
[06:44] <ConfusedLinux_> so should i get a different distro than ubuntu?
[06:44] <soadkombucha> evodragun: There is no registry cleaner. Ubuntu manages cleanup pretty well on its own.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  i alwyas  make a 512mb swap on every hd. but in your case. You proberly want to put it on the HD that will get used the least. and the fastest.. but you may never even need swap. so it may not matter much
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  its a free world.. get what you want.
[06:44] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: Can you recomend one drefragger?
[06:44] <soadkombucha> evodragun: I've never defragged on linux hold on
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  it all depends on your 'needs'
[06:45] <Adem> whats the commandline to install new fonts?
[06:45] <soadkombucha> evodragun:I mean you don't really have to
[06:45] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: Okas
[06:45] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Linux just.. It's a lot more organized and doesn't do the crazy things windows does
[06:45] <ConfusedLinux_> dr_willis: the only reason I have linux is for running Starcraft because Windows 7 freezes when you play it, so other than that i'll stick to Windows simplicity
[06:45] <wise_crypt> !font | Adem
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> Adem:  where are you getting these fonts from? I just copy .ttf files to my .fonts dir
[06:45] <Evil_> Do I have to use openjdk in 10.04?
[06:46] <soadkombucha> Evil_: You can get the JRE
[06:46] <soadkombucha> Evil_: It comes with the restricted extras
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  so you cant 'fix' windows.. so you want to play windows games in linux.. :)     Check the wine app database on that game and see if theres any known wine issues with it.
[06:46] <Adem> where can i download monospace font
[06:46] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: Actually, Starcraft 2 beta works better under Wine than it does natively under windows
[06:47] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: I see ubuntu use only the procesor and to much memory
[06:47] <Evil_> soadkombucha, I had openjdk installed and tried installing limewire but it's complaining about not having sun-java6-jdk
[06:47] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: It doesn't freeze on online play under Wine, but it does under Windows
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> Adem:  theres several fonts in the package manager repos.  There were some mono fonts also installed by default
[06:47] <soadkombucha> Evil_: Install the Ubuntu Restricted Extras Package. Or enable the canonical repository and search for it
[06:47] <chinmaya__> does any one know how to control the default zoom in a gnome window
[06:47] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: How I can optimaze my ubuntu to make faster
[06:47] <hyde> how to boot into x windows with Ubuntu 10.04 server?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> Adem:  and theres the MS fonts package for some of the MS fonts if you want those.
[06:47] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Trust me you don't have to it will be fast enough on its own
[06:47] <lost> i need to know what does it mean http://paste.ubuntu.com/455777/
[06:48] <actionParsnip> ConfusedLinux_: there are native games too, and some commercial games have native windows installers like doom3 and return to castle wolfenstein
[06:48] <wise_crypt> Adem: copying form your windows font directory might do the work
[06:48] <soadkombucha> evodragun: You'll see what I mean. It boots a lot faster.
[06:48] <evodragun> Soadkombucha: I dont understand
[06:48] <soadkombucha> evodragun: You're accustomed to Windows I assume?
[06:48] <chinmaya__> does any one know how to control the default zoom in a gnome window
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> chinmaya__:  what default zoom are you talking about?
[06:49] <soadkombucha> evodragun: Linux is completely different. The file structure is completely different, the way it manages files is different, and the speed at which it boots is much faster.
[06:49] <actionParsnip> chinmaya__: are you using compiz?
[06:49] <ConfusedLinux_> actionParsnip: I'm not looking for anything new
[06:49] <ConfusedLinux_> dr_willis: nobody has the same problem on WineHQ
[06:49] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: depends on config of both, but generally linux boots faster
[06:49] <chinmaya__> actionParsnip, yes. But I mean the zoom property of the window which shows files. I mean in nautilus
[06:49] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: if boot times excite you, look into xpud ;)
[06:50] <Joker> Can someone help me with my microphone issue? I'm running Ubuntu NR 10.04 and none of my programs will recognize my built-in microphone.
[06:50] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: I'm talking generally
[06:50] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: I'm happy with the fact that linux takes about a minute to load.
[06:51] <profxavier> when connecting to an Ubuntu machine, via samba, how do you surf to a folder, when the machine is Windows 7. I am trying to go to \\ip.address, but im being prompted for a user/password
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> a whole 60sec? thats too slow!
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:51] <chinmaya__> actionParsnip,  While opening one of my folders its getting opened in 66 % rather than 100%
[06:51] <ConfusedLinux_> why must linux be so confusing!
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  i always give my linux users a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'
[06:51] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: It's less than 60
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  its not.. windows is confuseing.
[06:52] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: But 1 minute is better than Windows
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  and using games in wine. is always a bit of a gamble.
[06:52] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: I think my boot time is somewhere around 30-40 seconds max
[06:52] <profxavier> Dr_Willis, then how do you access the shared drive/folder ?
[06:52] <ConfusedLinux_> dr_willis: windows is really simple. you dont need to use terminal or anything like that
[06:52] <soadkombucha> I use command.com in windows all the time
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  i enter my linux users name/samba password.
[06:52] <ConfusedLinux_> dr_willis: it doesnt take three years to connect to wireless on windows
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  but... you were unable to actually FIX your problem in windows.. so that sort of points that its not simple.
[06:53] <chinmaya__> ConfusedLinux_, Its not dude.. Its just lack of touch with it
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  computers are 'simple' when they work.. when somthing breaks.. well thats when you get into the issues.
[06:53] <mneptok> let's stop the offtopic "Linux vs. Windows" stuff, please
[06:53] <ConfusedLinux_> dr_willis: i cant "fix" the problem in ubuntu either
[06:53]  * wise_crypt hope that everybody wont feed the troll
[06:53] <Colonel_Panic> hello all
[06:54] <soadkombucha> ConfusedLinux_: Linux isn't terrible, it's just a matter of having a little bit of google-fu
[06:54] <soadkombucha> Hey Colonel_Panic
[06:54]  * Dr_Willis finally got Lord Of the Rings Online working in Wine. :)
[06:54] <Colonel_Panic> I'm running Ubuntu on a Dell Mini 9
[06:54] <soadkombucha> I have to look into Wine configuration
[06:54] <ConfusedLinux_> soadkombucha: I don't want to spend seven years of my life on google figuring out commands to run stuff because it wont run with icons
[06:54] <chinmaya__> Does anyone know how to control the default zoom property for nautilus. For one of my folders it has got reset to  66% rather than 100%
[06:54] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: if you reduce startup services it can be a lot faster, lik if the system doesnt have bluetooth, turn off bluetooth. or disable cups at startup if it doesn't have or use a printer
[06:54] <Colonel_Panic> this machine uses a Broadcom chipset with the iw-broadcom driver
[06:55] <aurilliance> I'm installing ubuntu and wondering: If I select the option to "use my password to log in *and* decrypt my home folder" will that be much of a performance loss?
[06:55] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: that sort of thing
[06:55] <mneptok> chinmaya__: "View" menu in Nautilus
[06:55] <ConfusedLinux_> dr_willis: also, about a day after getting W7 and ubuntu dual booted, I started getting weird errors about ChkDsk or something each time I booted up
[06:55] <wise_crypt> please if you really want to play games with wine use http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks or have more money use codega or crossover instead :)
[06:55] <Colonel_Panic> I mean wl-broadcom
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  i imagine there will be a slight loss. but ive not heard of anyone complainng about it. But if you ever need to access your HOME from a live cd. Your files will all be encrypted. and i ahve had seen people ask how to Unencrypt them.
[06:56] <chinmaya__> mneptok, it just sets temporarily... but when i open the next time its just standing at 66% only!!
[06:56] <ConfusedLinux_> wine and playonlinux both fail at installing
[06:56] <profxavier> Dr_Willis: before that, how do you access the shared resource, what syntax do you use?
[06:56] <nope> cedega works very nice
[06:56] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: Or just get smart and pirate it
[06:56] <ConfusedLinux_> but costs money
[06:56] <nope> well worth the donation
[06:56] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis, good point.
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  i dont use Win7 and i basically dont game on windows any more either. So cant help.
[06:56] <Colonel_Panic> anyway, the ESSID and other info about connected wifi APs doesn't show up in iwconfig
[06:56] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: no pirated stuff talk here ;p
[06:56] <the_file> how can I change the menu icon ?
[06:56] <the_file> how can I change the menu icon ?
[06:56] <soadkombucha> There's one game I refuse to run on anything but windows purelityy out of system intens
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> Colonel_Panic:  there is a wine support channel. and newer versions of wine come out every week or so.
[06:56] <actionParsnip> !legal | soadkombucha
[06:57] <the_file> I know I can do this in 9.10 bu not the new one
[06:57] <actionParsnip> !illegal
[06:57] <Colonel_Panic> wine?
[06:57] <Colonel_Panic> I'm not asking about wine
[06:57] <ConfusedLinux_> dr_willis: alright, ill go get ubuntu back for now. whats an IRC program I can use once i get there?
[06:57] <soadkombucha> Dr_Willis: I will NEVER run Dragon Age Origins under wine
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Colonel_Panic:  nick completion :)
[06:57] <actionParsnip> soadkombucha: play on linux is free, I believe you are thinking of cedega or crossover office
[06:57] <chinmaya__> mneptok, it just sets temporarily... but when i open the next time its just standing at 66% only!!
[06:57] <profxavier> when connecting to an Ubuntu machine, via samba, how do you surf to a folder, when the machine is Windows 7. I am trying to go to \\ip.address, but im being prompted for a user/password
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> ConfusedLinux_:  theres dozens of irc clients out there.  xchat is the common one.
[06:57] <soadkombucha> actionParsnip: Not too long ago crossover was free for a while
[06:57] <ConfusedLinux_> my experience with playonlinux is terrible
[06:58] <ConfusedLinux_> it doesnt even install
[06:58] <Colonel_Panic> what I want to do is be able to access the SSID and signal strength info from my wirelewss card
[06:58] <ConfusedLinux_> anyways
[06:58] <ConfusedLinux_> wubi time
[06:58] <ConfusedLinux_> be back soon
[06:58] <soadkombucha> Colonel_Panic: What wireless card