[03:26] <tonytraductor> so long, and thanks for all the fish...
[03:26] <stefg> LadyNikon: this will cost you /all/ your geek credit for ubuntu
[03:26] <dystopianray> Geeunkown: have you installed and run ntfs-config ?
[03:27] <fm> How do I find it out? All I know is that I connect through DHCP, so I had nothing to do :)
[03:27] <tonytraductor> stefg-> thanks for your assistance
[03:27] <Geeunkown> do mean form windows
[03:27] <ironfroggy> how can i get xargs, taking lines from find, to pass the argument ($1) as one argument not separate by spaces? i even tried "$1" but then i get "chmod: invalid argument: `'"
[03:27] <LadyNikon> stefg: meh
[03:27] <Madnez> lolz
[03:27] <dystopianray> fm: does the window that popup mention a proxy at all?
[03:28] <allen> hey
[03:28] <allen> uhm
[03:28] <Madnez> tony, enough with HGTTG
[03:28] <allen> where can i get the codecs?
[03:28] <Gowrav> Hi room.. I have acer aspire 1350 laptop with ubuntu 7. when booting it says failed to alocate memory from xxx to yyyy (some limit) then it boots normally.. but in between it crashes suddenly with power off (no restart) .. i think its ACPI (i may be wrong in the word) problem .. how to rectify this.. as it does not crashes always ...
[03:28] <erUSUL> ironfroggy: try xargs -0
[03:28] <dystopianray> allen: codecs for what?
[03:28] <Madnez> love the book, didnt go much for movie
[03:28] <LadyNikon> Gowrav: irc *channel* not room.
[03:28] <allen> dvd mp3 lol
[03:28] <Madnez> old brit version of the series was close
[03:28] <Madnez> closer i mean
[03:28] <Gowrav> LadyNikon: basically yahoo user so ..
[03:29] <Pici> !dvd > allen (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:29] <dystopianray> allen: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[03:29] <Pici> !codecs > allen (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:29] <LadyNikon> Gowrav: welcome to someting more sofisticated :)
 it says "enter username and password for hec_paris at http://hec.fr"
[03:29] <LadyNikon> Gowrav: how much ram do you use?
[03:29] <Jordan_U> allbert, install ubuntu-restricted-extras, it will get you other nice proprietary evilness like flash and Java too ;)
[03:29] <allen> ok
[03:29] <fm> thts all
[03:29] <Gowrav> LadyNikon: thanx for welcoming
[03:29] <allen> ty
[03:29] <dystopianray> fm: is that your isp?
[03:29] <Gowrav> i have 512 . with 32 mb sharedin video
[03:29] <Jordan_U> allen, That last comment was to you
[03:29] <ironfroggy> erUSUL: now its passing all the lines as a single argument :-/
[03:29] <allen> jo ok
[03:29] <fm> it is the school's network
[03:30] <LadyNikon> hmm
[03:30] <Gowrav> LadyNikon:  and how to detect how much ram my ubuntu isusing ??
[03:30] <Lord_Drachenblut> everytime someone install proprietary software into a linux system richard stallman kicks a puppy
[03:30] <LadyNikon> Gowrav: that i have no idea.
[03:30] <dystopianray> allen: and for dvd: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 and sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[03:30] <LadyNikon> but i know its less than 512 .. ifyou are sharing it with video
[03:30] <allen> ok tnx
[03:30] <LadyNikon> sadly.
[03:30] <allen> !easy ubuntu
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easy ubuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <Jordan_U> Lord_Drachenblut, everytime someone install proprietary software into a GNU/linux system richard stallman kicks a puppy ;)
[03:30] <allen> is this easy ubuntu any good
[03:31] <dystopianray> allen: no it is not
[03:31] <Gowrav> LadyNikon: SADLY ... at least i have more then 400 mb it must not at least crash like this !!
[03:31] <LadyNikon> never heard of it
[03:31] <allen> OH damn
[03:31] <dystopianray> allen: you're only two packages away from dvd and mp3 support
[03:31] <Jordan_U> allen, It's is obsoleted by new features in Feisty
[03:31] <allen> i just installed it
[03:31] <allen> >_>;
[03:31] <Hadeshorn> !java
[03:31] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:31] <LadyNikon> Gowrav:  if you dont get any help here.. try the forums
[03:31] <LadyNikon> lots more users there than here
[03:31] <Gowrav> LadyNikon: thanx ..
[03:33] <sts__> what means: libtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed
[03:33] <Gowrav> LadyNikon: Gaim default IRC client supplied with Ubuntu says "1188 people in ROOM" not in channel ;)
[03:33] <erUSUL> ironfroggy: ouch!
[03:33] <Gowrav> now 1186
[03:33] <erUSUL> ironfroggy: canyou give me the command ine you are using?
[03:33] <bric> ciao
[03:34] <gehel_> Hello ! Do you know a command to copy files directly to a samba share, without mounting it ? Like I could do with SCP ?
[03:34] <ironfroggy>  sudo find /data/multimedia/audio/ -type d | sudo xargs -0 chmod +x $1
[03:35] <bric> @find catia
[03:35] <bric> @cerca inventor
[03:36] <LadyNikon> gowrav - gaim = stupid
[03:36] <Leon_home> can someone explain to me what is that file : /etc/hosts
[03:36] <Leon_home> ?
[03:36] <Gowrav> LadyNikon: :O
[03:37] <erUSUL> ironfroggy: sudo find /data/multimedia/audio/ -type d -print | sudo xargs -0 chmod +x $1
[03:37] <dystopianray> Legendre: do 'man hosts'
[03:37] <dystopianray> Leon_home: do 'man hosts'
[03:37] <dystopianray> Legendre: sorry wrong person
[03:37] <ironfroggy> erUSUL: same
[03:37] <Lord_Drachenblut> Leon_home: here is a good article on hosts file http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_file
[03:37] <Geeunkown> BIG THANK YOU UBOTU for putting me in the right direction on my write issues to ntfs format.  it worked and was really simple to do thanks..
[03:38] <dystopianray> Geeunkown: ubotu is a bot
[03:38] <dystopianray> !thanks
[03:38] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:38] <lovi1> hi,all, while booting my system,i got an error:INIT: cannot execute "/sbin/getty",why?what can i do?
[03:39] <Gowrav> LadyNikon: gaim + LadyNikon = Confused! or LadyNikon- Gaim = Correct
[03:39] <Hadeshorn> hello ubuntians
[03:39] <Hadeshorn> i am having a problem with java
[03:39] <Hadeshorn> no java programs run on my machine
[03:39] <Hadeshorn> trying to get azerues running and it just core dumps
[03:40] <lovi1> jre?
[03:40] <gehel_> Hadeshorn: did you install sun JVM ? (apt-get install sun-java5-jdk)
[03:40] <Lord_Drachenblut> Hadeshorn: skip azureus and go with ktorrent or deluge-torrent for gnome
[03:40] <Hadeshorn> i am running java 1.4.2-02
[03:40] <gehel_> Hadeshorn: and then use it by default (update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun)
[03:40] <dystopianray> gehel_: woah that's the jdk, not the jre
[03:40] <npnufn> can some one know a good sniffer for a lan that runs on Ubuntu.
[03:40] <dystopianray> npnufn: wireshark
[03:41] <Hadeshorn> Lord: I belong to some private tracker sites and i need azerues
[03:41] <dystopianray> npnufn: or do you want to sniff traffic from/to other machines on a switched network?
[03:41] <Lord_Drachenblut> Hadeshorn: okay
[03:41] <gehel_> dystopianray: right, I'm a Java developper, so I forget that you dont need ann that ...
[03:41] <Okami> I'm having a video card problem, and im very new to ubuntu can anyone help me with this?
[03:41] <Okami> my display is acting very funny...
[03:41] <gehel_> npnufn: wireshark
[03:41] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: azureus works best with java 1.5 as far as I know
[03:41] <DjViper> how long untill OO 2.3 is in the ubuntu repository?
[03:41] <npnufn> I want to listen to a particular system in the lan, connected by a hub.
[03:42] <dystopianray> DjViper: OO 2.3 will only be for gutsy
[03:42] <npnufn> can wireshark listen to other system interfaces?
[03:42] <lovi1> while booting,i got an error:INIT: cannot execute "/sbin/getty"
[03:42] <Hadeshorn> ok i am trying this apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[03:42] <Hadeshorn> see if that will work
[03:42] <lovi1> why?
[03:42] <DjViper> dystopianray: okay
[03:42] <dystopianray> npnufn: if you have a hub (not a switch) just tell wireshark to listen to the lan interface
[03:42] <DjViper> dystopianray: is it safe to dist upgrade yet?
[03:42] <gehel_> Hadeshorn: sun-java5-jre should be sufficient for you
[03:42] <whileimhere> I have two computers on the same router that I want to share files between. How do I get started?
[03:42] <sts_> channel
[03:42] <sts_> #channels
[03:43] <Hadeshorn> I am running an x86 processor tho
[03:43] <Hadeshorn> oops
[03:43] <dystopianray> DjViper: dist-upgrade on fiesty? was it previously unsafe?
[03:43] <Hadeshorn> i mean 64 bit processor
[03:43] <Hadeshorn> and 64 bit version of ubuntu
[03:43] <gehel_> whileimhere: to Linux boxes ?
[03:43] <DjViper> dystopianray: is 7.10 usable?
[03:43] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: do you want to run java apps or write your own java apps?
[03:43] <whileimhere> yes
[03:43] <dystopianray> DjViper: it hasn't even had a beta release yet
[03:43] <z9999_> Jordan_U: I DL'd and moved both ndiswrapper-source and - utils, to the ubuntu system, double clicked and installed? them, but still see no build directory which claimed to be needed to run make on.
[03:44] <dgjones> dystopianray, not yet, its still only in testing and bug fixing
[03:44] <Hadeshorn> dys: Just run java apps like azerues
[03:44] <Lord_Drachenblut> has anyone got kickerqt installed successfully?
[03:44] <Leon_home> i need to choose port number for software i am trying to install , how can i choose good port number that not taken by other process ?
[03:44] <dgjones> dystopianray, sorry that was for DjViper
[03:44] <talcite> DjViper: do you mean 7.04?
[03:44] <npnufn> sorry, how can I setup the wireshark, it is not working well.
[03:44] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: install sun-java5-jre
[03:44] <whileimhere> gehel: Yes
[03:44] <Lord_Drachenblut> Leon_home: choose something from like 40000 to 65000 i think should be a good area
[03:44] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: you only need sun-java5-jdk if you are a java developer
[03:45] <Hadeshorn> damnit crashed again
[03:45] <Hadeshorn> !paste
[03:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:46] <Okami> I'm having a video card problem, and im very new to ubuntu can anyone help me with this?
[03:46] <Hadeshorn> Okami, whats your problem?
[03:46] <Okami> my display is a tad hazy, looks a bit cartoony
[03:46] <Jordan_U> z9999_, Is build-essential installed?
[03:46] <Hadeshorn> Okami, video card?
[03:46] <gehel_> whileimhere: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_share_folders_the_easy_way
[03:46] <Okami> Hadeshorn: well my display is a tad hazy like the drivers are not right
[03:46] <Leon_home> Lord_Drachenblut: the software installation as stopped until i will open the port i choose ? (i need to open port number for the service "sge_qmaster") how can i do that ?
[03:46] <Okami> Hadeshorn: yeah...
[03:46] <gordonjcp> Okami: LCD?
[03:46] <Okami> Gordonjcp: yep :)
[03:46] <Jordan_U> Okami, Low resolution?
[03:47] <whileimhere> gehel: thanks
[03:47] <gordonjcp> Okami: resolution is wrong
[03:47] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: try another torrent client, like ktorrent or rtorrent
[03:47] <Okami> Jordan_u: nope
[03:47] <Okami> Gordonjcp: Awesome..what should i set it to sir?
[03:47] <Hadeshorn> Dys, it just seems my java in general just doesnt work
[03:47] <Hadeshorn> here is the paste
[03:47] <Hadeshorn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37781/
[03:47] <Leon_home> how i can be sure that the port i choose is unused ?
[03:47] <gordonjcp> Okami: depends on what your monitor is capable of.  LCDs have a "native" resolution that corresponds to the number of physical pixels on the screen
[03:48] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: pastebin the output of: java -version
[03:48] <fermatstheorem> people
[03:48] <iskywalker> hi! i want to run some visual basic scripts on linux, is this possible?
[03:48] <Lord_Drachenblut> Leon_home: don't know right off
[03:48] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: you are from australia?
[03:48] <DSpair> Hadeshorn: Why are you running Azureus as root anyway?
[03:48] <dystopianray> iskywalker: VB6 or VB.NET ?
[03:48] <KenSentMe> !seen _Jaak_
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen _jaak_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <iskywalker> dystopianray: script
[03:48] <iskywalker> vbs
[03:48] <Stevethepirate> y0, peeps.. looking for that eye-candy icon program.. that makes like teh icons look l33t... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ i think has it
[03:48] <fermatstheorem> dystopianray: VB!!! banish the heathen!
[03:48] <Hadeshorn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37782/
[03:49] <Hadeshorn> There we go
[03:49] <Okami> Gordonjcp: ok well im not sure i understand what to do here to fix this, ive tried auto adjusting, and my monitor handles 1024x768 fine usually
[03:49] <Okami> Gordonjcp: but not on ubuntu apparently...
[03:49] <dystopianray> iskywalker: possibly to some extent with wine
[03:49] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : greetings of the day, sire
[03:50] <DSpair> Hadeshorn: Are you on a 64 bit platform and 64 bit kernel?
[03:50] <dystopianray> iskywalker: if they'er not compilcated you could rewrite them as perl/bash/python scripts
[03:50] <Hadeshorn> Dspair, yes to both
[03:50] <fermatstheorem> Okami: if you run the command given in xorg.conf it might fix ur resulution problem
[03:50] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: did you install a 1.5 java?
[03:50] <Hadeshorn> Dys I tried
[03:50] <DSpair> Hadeshorn: What version of Azureus?
[03:51] <Jordan_U> z9999_, Try running "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) dh-make fakeroot gcc-3.4 build-essential" on the machine that is not connected to the internet to make sure that you have them all
[03:51] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: run this: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:51] <Okami> Fermatstheorem: done that already...not much... i just changed the res to 800x 600 and its looking fine now....but then again its 800x600...
[03:51] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: select the 1.5 java
[03:51] <z9999_> Jordan_U: The package manager shows it installed and up to date. Ver 11.1 49.2 KB
[03:51] <iskywalker> dystopianray: they arent complicated but way too long for manual translation
[03:51] <Hadeshorn> Thanks dys
[03:51] <fermatstheorem> Myrtti: greetings for a fine day, madame
[03:52] <fermatstheorem> Okami: did it ask you to pick the resolution
[03:52] <Hadeshorn> Dspair, umm dont know
[03:52] <Hadeshorn> dspair, let me check
[03:52] <Okami> fermatstheorem: nope...
[03:52] <taime1> when i change startup items in the Preferences>Sessions tool, it doesnt write my changes to the file in /home/user/.gnome2    instead, i have to delete that file so it will regenerate. what is causing this?
[03:52] <fermatstheorem> it should, u sure you ran the dpkg etc, in the xorg commentes as sudo?>
[03:53] <Okami> not as sudo
[03:53] <dystopianray> iskywalker: apparently you can install the 'windows scripting host' in wine and run vbscript
[03:53] <iskywalker> dystopianray: thx, do you have a link?
[03:53] <Okami> how should i run it as sudo? i just ran the restricted drivers...
[03:53] <fermatstheorem> yup
[03:53] <Hadeshorn> Dspair: I am running <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:53] <fermatstheorem> Okami: open xorg.conf
[03:53] <fermatstheorem> and see the comments
[03:53] <Hadeshorn> But i dont have azureus-gcj installed.. do i need that?
[03:53] <whileimhere> will switching to a bigger monitor cause me problems if I have installed linux with a smaller monitor
[03:54] <DSpair> Hadeshorn: Yeah, you need a 1.5 version of the JVM to run that version of Azureus
[03:54] <Okami> wheres that at if you dont mind explaining
[03:54] <dystopianray> iskywalker: i briefly looked over this page: http://www.jsware.net/jsware/vblinux.php3
[03:54] <fermatstheorem> Okami: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:54] <Stevethepirate> anyone know any icon eye candy programs... like the one used in that beryl vs aero youtube video
[03:54] <steel_lady> a short easy question: I have a big external disk and I want to devide it to 2 fat32 partitions. is it ok to do it with gparted and which characteristics and names should I apply to partitions?
[03:54] <Hadeshorn> Dspair: Well I did select 1.5 as the interpreter
[03:55] <Hadeshorn> Dspair: Do i need to reboot for it to take effect or something
[03:55] <fermatstheorem> steel_lady: characteristics/names?
[03:55] <Pici> !multijava
[03:55] <ubotu> To set which java version/implementation is to be used as default, use sudo update-java-alternatives
[03:55] <DSpair> Hadeshorn: No, you have to upgrade your installed java
[03:55] <dystopianray> steel_lady: use gparted would be perfect for it, i'm not sure what you mean by 'characteristics and names' though?
[03:55] <Hadeshorn> DSpair: This is what is selected
[03:55] <Hadeshorn> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[03:55] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: just run java --version it should show 1.5
[03:56] <DSpair> Hadeshorn: When you pasted the output of "java -version" it said "1.4.2"
[03:56] <Okami> fermatstheorem: ok well im at the xorg.conf
[03:56] <Stevethepirate> !icons
[03:56] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[03:56] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: sorry that's java -version
[03:56] <Hadeshorn> I am now running 1.5.0_11
[03:56] <Stevethepirate> !icon eye candy
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icon eye candy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <fermatstheorem> Okami: there are some comments  in teh file..
[03:56] <fermatstheorem> Okami: at the end of the comment a command is given
[03:56] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: does azureus run now?
[03:56] <Pici> !themes | Stevethepirate
[03:56] <DSpair> Hadeshorn: Then check your PATH and JAVA_HOME environment variables and make sure you're pointing to the 1.5 version.
[03:56] <ubotu> Stevethepirate: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:56] <fermatstheorem> Okami: some dpkg etc
[03:56] <Pici> !multijava | DSpair Hadeshorn
[03:56] <ubotu> DSpair Hadeshorn: To set which java version/implementation is to be used as default, use sudo update-java-alternatives
[03:56] <Hadeshorn> Dspair: How do i check that?
[03:57] <Hadeshorn> Dystop: Nope
[03:57] <Okami> fermatstheorem: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:57] <gordonjcp> Okami: maybe refresh rate, my monitor doesn't do 1680x1050 at 50Hz correctly but does 1680x1050 at 54Hz
[03:57] <Hadeshorn> Test
[03:57] <steel_lady> fermatstheorem, dystopianray: should they both be primary or in extended partition or how (external HDD for storing and work) and should I change the asignment to the other partition (it calls the first one /dev/sdb1)
[03:57] <Okami> that look about right?
[03:57] <fermatstheorem> Okami: yup!
[03:57] <fermatstheorem> run that as root
[03:57] <Okami> D:
[03:57] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: are you running it as a normal user instead of root?
[03:57] <Knight_On_White> what is the diffrent between : amd64 to ia64 ?
[03:57] <Okami> awesome, so i just sudo that command and it should work?
[03:57] <pl_ice> hey guys, any good gui program for c++ compiling etc?
[03:57] <dystopianray> steel_lady: they can both be primary partitions
[03:57] <Hadeshorn> Dys: you mean azereus?
[03:57] <Stevethepirate> Pici: its not a theme, its like a whole icon mover, sparkle effects, etc.
[03:57] <fermatstheorem> Okami: keep you fingers crossed :-p
[03:57] <Pici> Stevethepirate: Never heard of it.
[03:57] <dystopianray> pl_ice: eclipse, kdevelop, anjuta and there are others too
[03:57] <Hadeshorn> DSpair: How do i check my path and java home environment varaibles
[03:58] <fermatstheorem> steel_lady: create two primary partitions, that should do it
[03:58] <Okami> Fermatstheorem: :\ should i keep it in a specific resolution before i do that?
[03:58] <Melancholy> Is there way to raise master volume? Even tho my volume is 100%, i still cant hear a thing
[03:58] <DSpair> Hadeshorn: Do what "ubotu" told you above.
[03:58] <LjL> !code | pl_ice
[03:58] <ubotu> pl_ice: Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[03:58] <pl_ice> how bout got gtk=?
[03:58] <fermatstheorem> Okami: no no
[03:58] <ShaiGar> Melancholy: yes there is
[03:58] <fermatstheorem> Okami: run it in terminal
[03:58] <Melancholy> How?
[03:58] <Stevethepirate> Pici: like, makes icons move around, menu dropdowns [when the disappear]  sparkle, etc
[03:58] <Hadeshorn> !path
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about path - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <ShaiGar> Melancholy: type this in "sudo rm rf /"
[03:58] <ShaiGar> that'll do it
[03:58] <Stevethepirate> Melancholy: alsamixer in terminal
[03:58] <Hadeshorn> !java_path
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java_path - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <fermatstheorem> ShaiGar: dont be naughty
[03:58] <dystopianray> pl_ice: how about what?
[03:58] <fermatstheorem> Melancholy: donot do what ShaiGar says
[03:59] <LjL> Melancholy: DONT DO THAT
[03:59] <pl_ice> will that be fine for gtk instead for QT4
[03:59] <steel_lady> dystopianray, fermatstheoremt , it will not be a problem when I mount external HDD with 2 partitions? will I have it double mounted?
[03:59] <fermatstheorem> Melancholy: i repeat, DONOT type the command
[03:59] <Pici> Stevethepirate: Sounds like compiz-fusion and maybe the awn dock.
[03:59] <Melancholy> allmost did :D
[03:59] <DSpair> Hadeshorn: To set which java version/implementation is to be used as default, use sudo update-java-alternatives
[03:59] <fermatstheorem> steel_lady: they will show up as two disks
[03:59] <dystopianray> steel_lady: you'll have two mounted partitions
[03:59] <fermatstheorem> steel_lady: digressing, whyd o you want to paritttion the disk
[04:00] <Knight_On_White> does someone know if the "Sun grid engine" is supporting Ubuntu server 7.04 ?
[04:00] <dystopianray> pl_ice: you should bea ble to code gtk apps in any c/c++ ide
[04:00] <Okami> Fermatstheorem: well it threw up on me :( xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[04:00] <Okami>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070918095947
[04:00] <fermatstheorem> steel_lady: in my experience, parititoning did cause space issues
[04:00] <LjL> Melancholy: it was a malicious idiot. there are possibly three volume sliders you want to look at: master, wave and a third that may be called in various ways depending on your soundcard
[04:00] <Stevethepirate> Pici: hm..., running Desktop effects atm,...
[04:00] <fermatstheorem> Okami: fine no issues
[04:00] <pl_ice> oki, i'll give it a go, thanks guys
[04:00] <Stevethepirate> anyway to like include those?
[04:00] <Melancholy> LjL:  noticed. Thanks to everyone :)
[04:00] <JC_Denton_> when I lose the connection on my wireless interface any attempt to reconnect gives an ~scioflags device not found error
[04:00] <LjL> Melancholy: in your mixer, make sure all the sliders are visible (i use KMix, so i'm not sure how that's done in other mixers)
[04:00] <z9999_> J linux headersordan_U: That shows  The following extra packages will be installed:  cpp-3.4 debconf-utils debhelper dh-make fakeroot gcc-3.4 gcc-3.4-base html2text linux-headers-2.6.15-29 linux-headers-2.6.15-29-386
[04:00] <fermatstheorem> Melancholy: depending on ur card/driver you will have multiple sliders
[04:00] <z9999_> Need to get 10.9 MB of archives.
[04:00] <z9999_> 90.9 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[04:00] <Okami> Fermatstheorem: so what am i looking at then?
[04:00] <z9999_> Continue (Y or N)
[04:00] <JC_Denton_> upping eth1 after that returns the same error
[04:00] <Pici> Stevethepirate: You'll need to look into using compiz-fusion.
[04:00] <z9999_> Does this mean everything needed is available and only needs to be installed?
[04:00] <z9999_> And should I type Y?
[04:00] <Stevethepirate> Pici: k's
[04:00] <fermatstheorem> Okami: say yes to the backup file
[04:01] <fermatstheorem> Okami: then it will giveyou a list of resolutions to choose form
[04:01] <steel_lady> fermatstheorem I am doing my PhD and have 100G of data and I am also downloading a lot of multimedia, so I thought it would be a good idea to separate it. what do you thonk? And I was also thinking that some systems have problems with too big disks
[04:01] <Okami> Fermatstheorem: it didnt prompt me with that :\
[04:01] <fermatstheorem> Okami: it should! it will tell you the driver name also
[04:01] <Pici> z9999_: That looks good to me.
[04:01] <Hadeshorn> DSpair you were saying something before about environment variables and home paths. what was the deal with that
[04:01] <Hadeshorn> !java
[04:01] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[04:01] <Okami> Fermatstheorem: it didnt, it just gave me that line i posted to you....
[04:02] <fermatstheorem> steel_lady: f you hae one big disk and 100g wodlnt cause problems, a growing segment need not be restrained by the partion size
[04:02] <boojah_> anyone know about a IM app with V4L2 support?
[04:02] <Okami> oh wait
[04:02] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: you shouldn't need to set java_home or change anything with your path
[04:02] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: greetings to you too, fair maiden
[04:02] <Okami> Fermatstheorem: i see what your talking about now :D
[04:02] <fermatstheorem> steel_lady: if you have an active torrent life ;-) you would end up with some space in ur research parition but none in ur multimedia parition
[04:02] <steel_lady> fermatstheorem, I didn't understand you well, the external disk has 320G
[04:02] <Okami> so what do i do with the file backup?
[04:03] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : am a dude,
[04:03] <dystopianray> boojah: i think kopete supports v4l2
[04:03] <Madnez> !delete
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about delete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <Madnez> !remove
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remove - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <Madnez> !folder
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about folder - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <LjL> !msgthebot
[04:03] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:03] <fermatstheorem> Okami: just keep it, just in case if you hose ur xorg.conf
[04:03] <Hadeshorn> Dystop. nah azereus crashed again
[04:03] <Madnez> damn
[04:03] <boojah_> dystopianray: hmm.. i dont think it does without patching it or something
[04:03] <Hadeshorn> Might have to use another torrent program
[04:03] <Madnez> ok whats the command for deleting?
[04:03] <LjL> Madnez: rm
[04:03] <Madnez> del?
[04:03] <Madnez> ..
[04:03] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: I recommend ktorrent or rtorrent
[04:04] <Madnez> thanks
[04:04] <kaje> how do I install ghostscript in ubuntu? I don't see it in synaptic
[04:04] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: you keep telling yourself that ;p
[04:04] <LjL> !cli > Madnez    (Madnez, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:04] <fermatstheorem> steel_lady: 320g so be it, again it is only a recommendation that you donot parition stuff, it doesnt prevent data loss if at all it happens
[04:04] <Okami> Fermatstheorem: so what should i do with that backup>
[04:04] <Hadeshorn> dys: I am gonna see if its an allowed client
[04:04] <fermatstheorem> Okami: nothing
[04:05] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: you are part of a private torrent community that restricts your client usage?
[04:05] <wickers> quick question, how do I force apt-get to install a new kernel? where is the restricted list stored for apt?
[04:05] <Madnez> haha :D
[04:05] <Madnez> thanks
[04:05] <Madnez> just not sure of all the commands available
[04:05] <fermatstheorem> steel_lady: and keeping a single partition will prevent artificial restrictions
[04:05] <Okami> Fermatstheorem: well it didnt prompt me in the terminal or anything...so im kinda stuck on nothing right now...
[04:05] <steel_lady> fermatstheorem, not to partition the disk at all? and win will not have problems with too big disk? and it doesn't prevent data loss? :-(
[04:05] <LjL> !info gs-afpl | kaje
[04:05] <ubotu> kaje: gs-afpl: The AFPL Ghostscript PostScript interpreter. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8.53-1 (feisty), package size 3937 kB, installed size 12464 kB
[04:05] <fermatstheorem> steel_lady: single parition
[04:05] <steel_lady> OK
[04:05] <Madnez> hmm cant remove directory
[04:05] <wickers> Anyone? apt-get to install new kernel? won't do it by default
[04:05] <fermatstheorem> steel_lady: win will not have problems
[04:05] <Hadeshorn> Dys: Ktorrent is allowed! YAY
[04:05] <dystopianray> steel_lady: make sure you keep multiple backups of your phd work in physicall separate locations
[04:06] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: allowed by your tracker?
[04:06] <fermatstheorem> steel_lady: remember to unplug the dirves properly
[04:06] <fermatstheorem> steel_lady: and keep some DVD backups of you rimportant stuff
[04:06] <sicka-samo> Any wireless card experts out there? I'm having Linksys problems!
[04:06] <steel_lady> dystopianray, if you have 100G of data, it is not easy!
[04:06] <LjL> Madnez: "man rm" for information. it won't remove a directory without further parameters. "rmdir" removes a directory, but only if it's empty. to remove a directory *and all files or directories in it*, use "rm" with the recursive switch
[04:06] <fermatstheorem> Okami: it will work
[04:06] <z9999_> Jordan_U:  You agree I should continue?
[04:06] <steel_lady> HOW FREQUENT IS FOR THE DISK TO BREAK?
[04:06] <Pici> Madnez: But be careful, it won't prompt you and when your files are gone.. they are *gone*
[04:07] <LjL> steel_lady: depends how often you beat it with a hammer. please don't shout
[04:07] <Hadeshorn> Dys: Hey can Ktorrent install on Ubuntu? Coz isnt that just for Kubuntu?
[04:07] <sicka-samo> Any wireless card experts out there? I'm having Linksys problems!
[04:07] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : am a dude, seriously, and am tryng to acquire some good karma here
[04:07] <kaje> Thanks LjL
[04:07] <LjL> Hadeshorn: no, no way it's "just for kubuntu"
[04:07] <fermatstheorem> steel_lady: what isthe model
[04:07] <Pici> Hadeshorn: You can install most KDE apps in Ubuntu w/o any issues
[04:07] <fermatstheorem> steel_lady: make
[04:07] <LjL> Hadeshorn: like any KDE program, it will work fine in any Linux environment. it's just that the KDE libraries will get installed too
[04:07] <sicka-samo> WMP54GS
[04:08] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: any app in the repos can install on ubuntu, there are no limiations like what you are thinking
[04:08] <VSpike> Hadeshorn: you can install it no problem, it will just pull in a whole bunch of kde libs if it's the first kde app you've isntalled
[04:08] <wickers> Can anyone tell me how I can force apt-get to install the latest kernel? it does an update but omits the new kernel packages
[04:08] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : hoping some lady is imprssed by my limited unix skills
[04:08] <startk3ylogger> startkeylogger
[04:08] <Pici> !ops | startk3ylogger
[04:08] <ubotu> startk3ylogger: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[04:08] <Hadeshorn> Dys: Pic, LjL thanks
[04:08] <steel_lady> dystopianray, fermatstheorem it seems that the system already has too many partition. it cals one of my internal partitions sda6 as well as this one sda6 (2)
[04:08] <galorin> I am using the info found here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78238 to create the proper kernel module for my ati remote control, but when running `make` all I get are .o files, and the kernel can't load them, wrong version.  So how do I either turn the .o file into a .ko file or otherwise remedy the situation?
[04:08] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: pardon?
[04:08] <Hadeshorn> Vspike thanks
[04:09] <Hadeshorn> Dys, Just saying thanks man!
[04:09] <wickers> umm... so no one can help me then?
[04:09] <fermatstheorem> steel_lady: i shoudl go now to find nourishment. will catch up with you later
[04:09] <[nrx] > lol
[04:09] <Hadeshorn> wickers what was your problem?
[04:09] <[nrx] > i've just got nourishment once again!
[04:09] <LjL> wickers: what does "uname -r" say?
[04:09] <dystopianray> wickers: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:09] <wickers> apt-get lists a new kernel for upgrade, but when I update/upgrade it omits the kernel, but leaves it flagged.
[04:09] <dystopianray> steel_lady: partitions on other drives should don't mean anything to your external drive
[04:10] <Pici> wickers: You need to use dist-upgrade for it to upgrade the kernel as well.
[04:10] <sicka-samo> I'm having Linksys WMP54GS problems, I've read wiki to exhaustion... ndiswrapper says my driver is there and working but I don't have wlan0
[04:10] <wickers> ahhh
[04:10] <[nrx] > get this: the compiz site tells you to download a package, it provides a link and then you find, it doesn't even exist hah
[04:10] <wickers> dystopianray: Pici: thanks!
[04:10] <sicka-samo> Tried the new ndiswrapper, still no luck
[04:10] <sicka-samo> anybody help please?
[04:11] <dystopianray> sicka-samo: did you load the ndiswrapper module? sudo modprobe ndiswrapper ?
[04:11] <sicka-samo> yes
[04:11] <steel_lady> fermatstheorem it just says it is conceptronic box
[04:11] <dystopianray> sicka-samo: what chip does your wifi card use?
[04:11] <muzik> Hi i have a computer with version 6.06 of ubuntu, after isntalling for the first time, it asked to update, i did so, now rebooted up and i have no network, how can i fix this? i have searched around for this problem, but to no avail
[04:12] <sicka-samo> will dbl check 1 sec
[04:12] <derring-heng> 1 question: Is there any linux live cd that can read AND write ntfs??can ubuntu live cd do that?
[04:12] <sicka-samo> dystopianray: Linux says it's a BCM4306
[04:13] <wickers> mm...bad lag spike for me there.
[04:13] <wickers> anyhow thanks everyone
[04:14] <dystopianray> sicka-samo: did you unload bcm43xx before loading ndiswrapper?
[04:14] <sicka-samo> yes I blacklisted it
[04:14] <dystopianray> derblubber: you can install ntfs-config on the ubuntu livecd
[04:14] <z9999_> muzik: sounds like my problem too, All was working until I allowed the system to be updated, which apparently upgraded the kernel and now no wireless. BCM4311 here, which appears to not be very Linux friendly.
[04:14] <dystopianray> sicka-samo: did you unload it though?
[04:14] <sicka-samo> perhaps not
[04:14] <sicka-samo> I followed all the instructions on wiki
[04:14] <muzik> yea z9999_ :/
[04:14] <sicka-samo> copy & paste
[04:15] <muzik> mines a wired connection, on a desktop PC, i tried wireless on my server one, but it didnt show up at all
[04:15] <arkaitz> Hey!
[04:15] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[04:16] <derring-heng> dystopianray: you mean,like i want to backup some files from xp harddisk.then run ubuntu live cd,install ntfs-config and all done?
[04:16] <dystopianray> sicka-samo: sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx ; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:16] <BigDaddy> Morning all
[04:16] <dystopianray> derring-heng: that's right, if you have internet access from the livecd you can install anything you want
[04:16] <sicka-samo> ok done so now I should try again?
[04:16] <BigDaddy> Got a quick question, hope someone can help
[04:16] <derring-heng> dystopianray:if i dont have internet access?
[04:16] <dystopianray> sicka-samo: do you have the wlan0 interface now?
[04:16] <BigDaddy> I am trying to find an applet that lets me display the song title in the top panel
[04:17] <BigDaddy> I am using rhythmbox, and all I can find is the basic 3 buttons and ratings stars
[04:17] <dystopianray> derring-heng: download the deb files for ntfs-config and put them on a usb drive or cd or something and install them manually
[04:17] <sicka-samo> no but I think I unloaded my last drivers, I'll try it again it will take a min
[04:17] <hybernate> is there some way to check if some one logged on my computer thrue the net caus i see when i do top in a consol alot of things happening with root accses and as far as i know i haventlogged in as root this session
[04:17] <dystopianray> sicka-samo: unload ndiswrapper and load it again
[04:17] <derring-heng> dystopianray:thanks :)
[04:17] <dystopianray> hyperbola_: type 'who'
[04:17] <thechris> in apt, how do I unlock a file /var/cache/debconf/config.dat ?
[04:17] <dystopianray> derring-heng: make sure you get ntfs-config's dependancies too
[04:18] <sicka-samo> how do I unload ndiswrapper?
[04:18] <dystopianray> sicka-samo: sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[04:18] <muzik> z9999_: try typing into the console: sudo dhclient, jsut did that now and it works fine
[04:18] <derring-heng> dystopianray:install through synaptic?
[04:18] <hybernate> i get 3 lines what dose pts/0 and pts/1 mean
[04:19] <thechris> !dbdriver
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dbdriver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <dystopianray> derring-heng: i believe you can simply click ont he .deb files and they'll install
[04:19] <thechris> !unlock
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unlock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <axisys> how do I check what version ipw2200 I am using? i noticed LEAP is added to 1.0.9 but I dont have leap so I am guessing my version is lower
[04:19] <derring-heng> but is there any live cd with bulit-in ntfs read-write support >_> ?
[04:19] <sicka-samo> dystopianray: still no wlan0
[04:19] <z9999_> muzik: I think my system is hosed too much for that to work now. ndiswrapper has been removed and can't get it to work any longer.
[04:19] <thechris> so, i've broken apt within a day
[04:20] <Stevethepirate> derring-heng: no..
[04:20] <thechris> and now firefox doesn't load
[04:20] <dystopianray> axisys: dmesg | grep -i ipw
[04:20] <jacob> can somebody help me install this package? sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[04:20] <Stevethepirate> just do what he said, livecd, get ntfs-3g
[04:20] <BigDaddy> Anyone know of song ticker applet for Gnome?
[04:20] <Stevethepirate> and ur good to go
[04:20] <dasss> hi. how can i use grep to search for a string instead searching for a word?
[04:20] <muzik> z9999_ ahh im sorry to hear that, i havnt tried ndiswrapper, just typed it in and it works, sorry i cant help you
[04:20] <Hadeshorn> Hey where is ktorrent installed too?
[04:20] <thechris> dasss: grep "string"
[04:20] <SlimeyPete> dasss: quotes. grep "this is a string" *
[04:20] <Stevethepirate> dasss: grep "lol"
[04:20] <dystopianray> sicka-samo: did you load ndiswrapper again after unloading it?
[04:20] <dystopianray> derring-heng: maybe the gutsy livecd
[04:20] <dystopianray> derring-heng: or you could make your own ubuntu livecd with ntfs-config preinstalled
[04:21] <hybernate> dystopianray, i get 3 lines with my loggin name one with :0 then i get pts/0 and pts/1
[04:21] <sicka-samo> yes sudo modprobe ndiswrapper right?
[04:21] <axisys> dystopianray: thnx
[04:21] <axisys> dystopianray: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.2.0kmprq looks like i got a higer version .. but i dont see leap in the list of eap method.. hmm
[04:22] <jacob> can somebody explain to me why i'm unable to install the following? sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[04:22] <dystopianray> axisys: it may be that network-manager doesn't support leap yet
[04:22] <Hadeshorn> Where do programs install to?
[04:22] <BMT> good morning to all
[04:22] <Hadeshorn> im trying to locate Ktorrent
[04:22] <axisys> dystopianray: i c
[04:22] <Hadeshorn> BMT hey man! *high five*
[04:22] <darklight> hi everybody
[04:22] <Hadeshorn> hey dark
[04:23] <Slart> Hadeshorn: try "whereis ktorrent"
[04:23] <axisys> how do I upgrade my linux kernel? it shows 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Fri Aug 31 00:55:27 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:23] <dystopianray> jacob: pastebin the error message
[04:23] <darklight> i am newbie
[04:23] <Hadeshorn> NO WAY
[04:23] <sicka-samo> dystopianray: thanks for your help, I've gotta run now so I'll have to try again later
[04:23] <Hadeshorn> Slart thanks
[04:23] <dystopianray> Hadeshorn: /usr/bin/ktorrent
[04:23] <thechris> Anyone know anything about apt?
[04:23] <dystopianray> axisys: what do you want to upgrade to?
[04:24] <jacob> dystopianray http://pastebin.com/m11483b00
[04:24] <Hadeshorn> Thanks Dys
[04:24] <darklight> i search some good program to make programmation
[04:24] <Slart> thechris: I might have heard of it once or twice.. what do you want to know
[04:24] <dystopianray> darklight: programmation?
[04:24] <darklight> i search some good program to make programing
[04:24] <Slart> !apt
[04:24] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:24] <flo> Suddenly a few python apps (like deskbar & gimmie) stopped working giving me the errormessage "import gnome.ui Import Error: No module named ui" - What can i do ?
[04:24] <LjL> !code | darklight, if that's what you mean
[04:24] <ubotu> darklight, if that's what you mean: Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[04:24] <thechris> Slart: how do I unlock /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[04:25] <darklight> to make python language
[04:25] <dystopianray> jacob: seems like something is wrong, it keeps talking about 0B, have you ran a sudo apt-get update ?
[04:25] <dystopianray> darklight: you want a python ide?
[04:25] <darklight> or C++ languge
[04:25] <Slart> thechris: hmm.. close synaptic?
[04:25] <axisys> dystopianray: actually i may not have to upgrade if i can just upgrade tehe network manager
[04:25] <thechris> Slart: not in X11
[04:25] <axisys> dystopianray: i want leap to be available
[04:25] <LjL> !info eric | darklight
[04:25] <ubotu> darklight: eric: full featured Python IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.9.1-1 (feisty), package size 1888 kB, installed size 11356 kB
[04:25] <muzik> thechris: you are typeing sudo apt right?
[04:25] <Slart> thechris: you get that error-message trying to run apt-get?
[04:25] <LjL> !info pida > darklight
[04:25] <darklight> now i have downloaded anjuta and Glade
[04:25] <thechris> muzik: yes Slart yes
[04:25] <muzik> hm
[04:25] <galorin> whoops.. Anyone have any info on my ati_remote problem?
[04:26] <jacob> systopianray no, should i try that?
[04:26] <jacob> dystopianray no, should i try that?
[04:26] <thechris> I am trying to find out why firefox doesn't run while in X11 /w nvidia loaded
[04:26] <taime1> okay. i have tried removing and checking permissions on ~/.configure/autostart  but that doesnt fix my problem. i still cannot save changes to my session using the gnome-session-properties. what gives??
[04:26] <axisys> how do I check what version network manager I have?
[04:26] <dystopianray> jacob: it won't hurt
[04:26] <jacob> dystopianray, i guess i also need to upgrade, that could be a possible reason
[04:27] <Slart> thechris: hmm.. I don't get that error when I run two instances of apt.. must be something else.. you're using ubuntu 7.04?
[04:27] <axisys> got the version
[04:27] <axisys> 0.6.4
[04:27] <axisys> i need to upgrade it to 0.6.5 to get leap
[04:27] <thechris> Slart: it happens when it trys to configure gnuplot, then any other configs fail
[04:28] <Slart> thechris: I'll do a little searching.. brb
[04:28] <Hadeshorn> ok thanks for the help fellow ubuntians
[04:28] <darklight> wow
[04:28] <darklight> nice place to talk
[04:29] <darklight> someone to help me to choose a software
[04:29] <Slart> thechris: running more than one instance of the config-program?
[04:29] <jacob> dystopianray, i'll be upgrading my system, i need to install about 119 updates might take a while
[04:29] <molnitza> Hello. I am looking for a tool what can output the input from a videocutcard (PinnacleDC10plus)
[04:29] <jacob> dystopianray, will you still be around?
[04:29] <dystopianray> axisys: are you sure the network requires LEAP? not PEAP or something else?
[04:29] <dystopianray> jacob: ah I should be around for a couple of hours or so
[04:30] <jacob> dystopianray: ok
[04:30] <Slart> thechris: try lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat and see what you get (lsof = lists all files that are opened by processes)
[04:30] <hybernate> is there any way to know if the root loggins done to my computer is done remotely?
[04:30] <nubae> hi, I've got a weird problem that is apt-get related. When trying to do a apt-get update I get (Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/feisty/non-free/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not connect to packages.medibuntu.org:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] )
[04:30] <c01100011> my laptop screen turns off after 20 min. of inactivity, gnome powersave is turned off, there is no power save in bios, and dpms is disabled in xorg.conf
[04:31] <nubae> This makes no sense to me as I can ping the address
[04:31] <dystopianray> nubae: problem with medibuntu's server
[04:31] <darklight> i have a problem my PCMCIA wireless card
[04:31] <Slart> nubae: seems like the medibuntu server is down
[04:31] <c01100011> is there a fix, or a program to run that will wiggle my mouse and keep the screen alive
[04:31] <nubae> Its not though
[04:31] <dystopianray> nubae: port 80 is closed though
[04:31] <darklight> it's a WG511v2
[04:31] <DigeratiX> ubuntu computer with 2 users on it, I mount a windows share via fstab and it shows up on the lowest permission user on the systems desktop and I dont want it on the desktop for that user , how to remove link from desktop
[04:31] <axisys> dystopianray: i am sure it need leap
[04:31] <z9999_> jacob: I just finished an update (101 to be exact) and if you are using a Broadcom wireless card get ready for some problems after applying your updates.
[04:31] <nubae> ok, but my entire list in sources.list wont resolve
[04:31] <nubae> archives.canonical.com for example
[04:32] <muzik> Question: Just finished the install of ubuntu on my main PC, my main PC has 2 screens, i tried the TwinView idea [as i have a nVIDIA 6600Si Card]  but it resulted in Signal out of range, and me having to boot into the command line to change back to the old xorg.conf, is there a easier way?
[04:32] <nubae> thats pingable and can be accessed via port 80
[04:32] <dystopianray> nubae: the official ubuntu servers dont' work either?
[04:32] <nubae> no
[04:32] <axisys> is there a way to download the nm-0.6.5-feisty.tar.bz2  w/o creating an account on ubunut forum
[04:32] <axisys> ?
[04:32] <nubae> nothing works... I've checked squid, firewall
[04:32] <nubae> I dont get it
[04:32] <taime1> okay. i have tried removing and checking permissions on ~/.configure/autostart  but that doesnt fix my problem. i still cannot save changes to my session using the gnome-session-properties. what gives??
[04:32] <thechris> Slart: no processes are using it
[04:32] <Dr_willis> muzik,  twinview can take some tweaking.  But its the way to do it.
[04:32] <dystopianray> axisys: ask somebody else to download it
[04:32] <axisys> dystopianray: heh
[04:33] <mnereson> good day. I need to grant a permission to tomcat in "server.policy?" anyone know where this is?
[04:33] <Slart> thechris: hmm.. how do you run the gnuplot configure thingy? installed gnuplot from the regular repos?
[04:33] <jacob> dystopianray: if you don't get an answer from me, it's because i left ok? i have to go somewhere
[04:33] <nubae> I can pastebin the entire output of apt-get update, but its pretty much a repeition of the line I already pasted
[04:33] <dystopianray> muzik: did you use nvidia-settings to configure it?
[04:33] <dystopianray> jacob: ok
[04:33] <Dr_willis> muzik,  it may be easier to 'tweak' if you got a 2nd machine you can ssh into the first with. to fix xorg.conf without rebooting. Or disable gdm, and use 'startx' till you get the file tweaked right.
[04:33] <muzik> Dr_willis: i tried it to how i could, i have 1 19" running at 1280x1024 and a 17" running at the same res, i tried as the ubuntuforums.com asked, but it broke
[04:33] <Dr_willis> muzik,  voth of these are lcd screens?
[04:33] <thechris> Slart: no idea, it was installed as a dep of something else
[04:33] <muzik> Dr_willis: yes
[04:33] <dpml> Can anyone tell me what the bash command line equivalent is to the process of double-clicking on a debian archive.  For example - if my debian archive is named widget_2.1.1-1_all.deb what would I enter into a bash shell to trigger something via apt-get?
[04:34] <muzik> dystopianray: i saw about it, but i dont know how to get it
[04:34] <dystopianray> dpml: you want to install the deb? dpkg -i blah.deb
[04:34] <dpml> yes
[04:34] <thechris> Slart: my real issue is firefox not running, I'm just hopeing this is related
[04:34] <dystopianray> muzik: you should already have it
[04:34] <c01100011> my laptop screen turns off after 20 min. of inactivity, gnome powersave is turned off, there is no power save in bios, and dpms is disabled in xorg.conf. Any fix / program to keep screen alive ?
[04:34] <dystopianray> muzik: just type 'nvidia-settings' in a terminal
[04:34] <Dr_willis> muzik,  odd. both should be running at 60 then. all ive had to do with my dual screens was run the nvidia-xconfig to enable twinview.
[04:34] <temjin> question about 7.10
[04:35] <nubae> any ideas on this 111 connection refused, does the number 111 mean something specific?
[04:35] <temjin> awhile ago news hit that xorg 7.3 and bulletproof X wouldn't be included
[04:35] <temjin> then it was like
[04:35] <temjin> no wait
[04:35] <temjin> they will
[04:35] <muzik> Dr_willis: i just isntalled it, my main screen is fine, my 17" secondry says Signal out of range, 1 sec trying the nvidia-settings
[04:35] <temjin> which is it? :|
[04:35] <dystopianray> temjin: it will
[04:35] <Slart> thechris: can't imagine firefox needing gnuplot.. you get any error messages when trying to run firefox from a terminal?
[04:35] <temjin> oh, very nice
[04:35] <temjin> :)
[04:35] <dystopianray> temjin: but you should be asking in #ubuntu+1
[04:35] <muzik> bash: nvidia-settings: command not found
[04:35] <temjin> ah, didn't know about that chan
[04:36] <axisys> dystopianray: aparently i have an account.. heh
[04:36] <muzik> its version 6.06 of ubuntu
[04:36] <Dr_willis> muzik,  hmm.. Thats part of the nvidia-glx drivers package i thought. You did install the nvidia drivers?
[04:37] <nubae> the server I'm getting this on is working perfectly, accessing internet, serving dhcp via ltsp, etc... the only error I get is this... where could I look to fix it? (must be something to do with aptitude)
[04:37] <MartinW> The packages in Synaptic Package manager are very out of date (e.g. Thunderird 1.5 instead of 2). What should I do?
[04:37] <thechris> Slart: just the errors due to Xorg.conf being set up for a touchscreen and me not having one
[04:37] <dystopianray> muzik: ah 6.06 may be the problem, with 7.04 it comes with nvidia-glx
[04:37] <muzik> Dr_willis: noob in your presence, no not as of yet, it seems to work fine wihout it, i wasnt sure if that would be included in the dist
[04:37] <muzik> ah.
[04:38] <Leon_home> if i take to transfer my HDD with ubuntu to new computer , ubuntu will work ? or i need to re-install ? or update some files ?
[04:38] <MartinW> Sorry if it is an obvious question but I'm still learning linux (I switched Saturday)
[04:38] <LadyNikon> Leon_home: update ubuntu to the new system
[04:38] <tseug> new sysstem?
[04:38] <LadyNikon> linux isnt as fragile
[04:38] <tseug> gutsy gibbon is out?
[04:38] <dystopianray> Leon_home: you may need to configure x.org again but otherwise it should work
[04:38] <LadyNikon> tseug: check in ububntu+1
[04:39] <dystopianray> tseug: only alpha releases are out
[04:39] <LadyNikon> ubuntu+1*
[04:39] <Slart> thechris: and then what? it crashes? hangs?
[04:39] <muzik> dystopianray: should i update? the only reason i got 6.06 as it had more on the support time [6.06 to 09, 7.04 to 08]
[04:39] <nubae> leon_home dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg on the new system
[04:39] <Leon_home> dystopianray: what is x.org ?
[04:39] <Slart> thechris: or rather.. what about firefox doesn't work?
[04:39] <dpml> dystopianray: thanks - that worked (just for reference - what is the difference between apt-get and dpkg and does the former use the later?)
[04:39] <LadyNikon> !x
[04:39] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:39] <LadyNikon> Leon_home: see above
[04:39] <MartinW> !Synaptic
[04:39] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[04:39] <thechris> Slart: firefox just never starts
[04:39] <Dr_willis> muzik,  unless you are a business wanting Long term support. I dont see the need to worry about that. :)
[04:40] <dystopianray> dpml: apt-get uses dpkg
[04:40] <axisys> i failed to upgrade the network-manager.. it failed like this http://rafb.net/p/rVdNUZ67.html
[04:40] <muzik> Dr_willis: lol aslong as this room supports it, i'll upgrade, bbs
[04:40] <sholsinger> \msg nickserv
[04:40] <Dr_willis> muzik,  gutsy is due out in a few weeks also.  Hopefully the nvidia/ati driver stuff will be improved even more.
[04:40] <axisys> anyone suggest a workaround?
[04:40] <dpml> dystopianray: thanks!
[04:40] <dystopianray> dpml: read the man pages for both apps
[04:40] <Slart> thechris: oh... that's a new one.. are there any firefox processes running? (ps -A | grep -i firefox to check)
[04:40] <dpml> dystopianray: will do
[04:40] <BigDaddy> thechris - did you try launching firefox from a terminal and see what output it shows?
[04:40] <Dr_willis> muzik,  so if you are going to reformat to update, may want to just hold off for a few more weeks. ;)
[04:40] <nubae> pretty please... what could be wrong with my apt-get and connecting? what could cause non of my sources.list to be accessed?
[04:41] <Slart> BigDaddy: " just the errors due to Xorg.conf being set up for a touchscreen and me not having one"
[04:41] <muzik> Dr_willis: its less than 2 hours old install, i just want to play around in it, another reinstall in a few weeks will help, clear up all the mess i made
[04:41] <nubae> I have bind9 and dansguardian installed, I thought they might be culprits
[04:41] <DigeratiX> ubuntu computer with 2 users on it, I mount a windows share via fstab and it shows up on the lowest permission user on the systems desktop and I dont want it on the desktop for that user , how to remove link from desktop
[04:41] <Dr_willis> muzik,  may want to try out the beta remeases of gutsy if its just a 'testing' machine.
[04:41] <nubae> but dansguardian isnt running anymore, so cant be, and bind... well would affect it if its off
[04:41] <BMT> what is the url to the website where i can post a error, and put the url in this channel ?
[04:42] <morpheus> any virtualbox gurus in here
[04:42] <Slart> !pastebin
[04:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:42] <dystopianray> !pastebin
[04:42] <muzik> Dr_willis: LOL its my main computer, i just want to test ubuntu on it as i use on my server, i want more experiance in it, but at the same time learn to use it in the long term
[04:42] <BigDaddy> damn
[04:42] <thechris> BigDaddy: no errors.  app simply doens't start
[04:43] <garette> hello all, how to install wgetpaste on ubunut?
[04:43] <garette> ubuntu**
[04:43] <morpheus> I've got an ubuntu box with virtual box on it, every time i try and isntall a guast os (ubuntu) it hangs at about 70% then fails
[04:43] <Slart> BigDaddy, thechris: never had firefox just silently die on me without any kind of error
[04:43] <BigDaddy> thechris - how about starting firefox in safemode? no plugins
[04:44] <kbrosnan> BigDaddy: safe mode only skips loading extensions, not plugins
[04:44] <lnx_> i can run visual studio c# 2005 with wine ?
[04:44] <kbrosnan> but it is still a good step to take
[04:44] <Slart> thechris: good idea from BigDaddy there.. "firefox -safe-mode" to try that
[04:44] <makiolo> use vmware for visual studio
[04:44] <BigDaddy> kbrosnan - that's what I meant.
[04:45] <thechris> BigDaddy: how?
[04:45] <thechris> ok, scrolled down enough to see the answer
[04:45] <BMT> when i run vlc in a terminal the application will show up and then disappear....this is the error i got in the terminal
[04:45] <BMT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37787/plain/
[04:45] <Slart> thechris: you could start with a fresh profile also... see if that does you any good "firefox -Profilemanager"
[04:45] <Slart> thechris: sorry "firefox -ProfileManager"
[04:46] <garette> BMT, lol how did you did the nopaste?? plz... i used to use wgetpaste i dunno whats the equvalent used on ubunut
[04:46] <dystopianray> lnx_: wine doesn't support .net
[04:46] <thechris> Slart: safe-mode, same resuslts, profilemanager, same results
[04:46] <BMT> garette, i am sorry i do not understand
[04:47] <nubae> garette, pastebin
[04:47] <nubae> search it on google
[04:47] <garette> nubae, pastebin
[04:47] <garette> ok
[04:47] <garette> i will
[04:47] <garette> thanks
[04:47] <BMT> nubae, thanks
[04:48] <kilman> Can sombody tel me if the Desktop Edition Desktop Edition will work on my Dell precision m90 laptop ?????
[04:48] <nubae> can someone try helping me out with  my apt issue?
[04:48] <Slart> thechris: weird... checked the syslog? "tail /var/log/syslog" anything from firefox in there?
[04:48] <nubae> just to recap... apt-get update gives me connection refused for my entire sources.list
[04:49] <Dr_willis> kilman,  is there somthing really weird about that desktop? ive used the Desktop eds on everything from a Pent 1-100, to mondern machines..
[04:49] <thechris> Slart: i think gconf might be broken.  I rm'd ~/.mozilla and now i get net errors about gconf
[04:49] <Slart> nubae: I'd check for network errors or such
[04:49] <nubae> I have net access to the sources no problem (ping, web visit)
[04:49] <darklight> bye
[04:49] <Dr_willis> kilman,   theres some laptop forums also on the ubuntu sites. that may have notes on any issues with a specific brand/make/model.
[04:49] <nubae> what log.. dmesg, messages?
[04:49] <lnx_> dystopianray , i heard about people that succesed to run it but i dont find i turtial now
[04:49] <garette> nubae, pastebin is not that flexible as wgetpaste was, do you anyother things?
[04:50] <Pici> garette: What is wgetpaste?
[04:50] <thechris> I might try to reboot
[04:50] <rpedro> I just put a pci nic on an ubuntu feisty pc (it was using a pci wireless card before), but the card doesn't show in the network options, shouldn't it autodetect? or do i need to configure something?
[04:50] <dystopianray> lnx_: it depends on .net, .net does not work in wine
[04:50] <LjL> find pastebin | garette
[04:50] <LjL> !find pastebin | garette
[04:50] <ubotu> garette: Found: pastebinit
[04:50] <garette> Pici, its used to paste
[04:50] <P3nnywise> Where can i get earlier versions of Ubuntu
[04:50] <thechris> afterall, i've had terrible luck with ubuntu's ability to work with X11's "startx"
[04:50] <alex-weej> P3nnywise: why would you want to do that?
[04:50] <Slart> thechris: net errors about gconf?? it's getting weirder.. I'm going with the windows-solution here.. uninstall, reinstall firefox
[04:50] <rhalff> since when did shift+backspace become logout ? is this an ubuntu feature ?
[04:50] <garette> Pici, like what you guys use pastebinit for
[04:50] <Dr_willis> thechris,  really? i use the 'startx' stuff and my own '.xinitrc' all the time.
[04:50] <P3nnywise> alex-weej, cuz latest version of ubuntu doesnt work
[04:51] <kilman> no I just want to no if the Desktop Edition Ubuntu 7.04 will work on my laptop??
[04:51] <dystopianray> rhalff: are you using a dvorak keymap?
[04:51] <rhalff> it was control alt backspace
[04:51] <alex-weej> P3nnywise: the 7.10 beta or 7.04?
[04:51] <LjL> P3nnywise: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[04:51] <nubae> rhalff... thats restart X
[04:51] <BMT> can anyone help me with my vlc issue ?
[04:51] <dystopianray> rhalff: something is wrong with your keymap
[04:51] <rhalff> dystopianray,  how can I determine that ?
[04:51] <P3nnywise> alex-weej, 7.04
[04:51] <nubae> not ubuntu specific, all linuxes do that
[04:51] <rhalff> dystopianray, ah could be :)
[04:51] <nubae> all with X installed of course
[04:51] <dystopianray> rhalff: well you'd know if you were using dvorak
[04:51] <alex-weej> P3nnywise: 7.10 beta is due out soon, you should help test it! :)
[04:51] <BMT> when running vlc in a terminal...the app appeared, and then it disappeared...here is the error that i got :    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37787/plain/
[04:52] <P3nnywise> alex-weej, im new to ubuntu i doubt my help would.. help :p
[04:52] <dystopianray> rhalff: are you using a non US English keyboard layout/keymap ?
[04:52] <LjL> P3nnywise: no need to resort to old and unsupported releases - try 6.06, which is perfectly current, first
[04:52] <LjL> !lts | P3nnywise
[04:52] <ubotu> P3nnywise: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[04:52] <rhalff> dystopianray, probably my keymap is wrong, because mc is behaving strange with function keys also. however I think I have this behaviour on every latest install of ubuntu.
[04:53] <P3nnywise> LjL, thats the one i want :)
[04:53] <nubae> has nothing to do with keyboard
[04:53] <dystopianray> rhalff: do you have a standard generic qwerty keyboard?
[04:53] <LjL> P3nnywise: http://releases.ubuntu.com
[04:53] <nubae> cntrl+alt+backspace = X restart
[04:53] <kilman> Can sombody tell me please if the Desktop Edition Ubuntu 7.04 will work on a laptop or if there is a spetial Edition for laptop??
[04:53] <Stevethepirate> yes
[04:53] <LjL> !laptop > kilman    (kilman, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:53] <Stevethepirate> it will.
[04:53] <dystopianray> rhalff: i've seen shift+backspace killing X on a dvorak keymap years ago
[04:53] <MartinW> When I try to reload in synaptic I get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37789/ error. What am I doing wrong?
[04:53] <dystopianray> kilman: it will work on a laptop
[04:54] <rhalff> dystopianray, yes, going to find where to change the keymap now.
[04:54] <dystopianray> kilman: there are only two editions, desktop and server
[04:54] <kilman> thanks a lot :-)
[04:54] <BMT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37787/plain/
[04:54] <LjL> !gpgerr > MartinW    (MartinW, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:54] <BMT> when i run vlc in the terminal i get errors ...here are the errors : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37787/plain/
[04:55] <LjL> what an ugly error
[04:55] <nubae> (04:51:12 PM) rhalff: it was control alt backspace
[04:55] <rhalff> dystopianray, well I never accidently logged out, and now it happens many times. shift+backspace happens fast :)
[04:55] <nubae> That is not a keyboard error
[04:55] <P3nnywise> LjL, does Ubuntu have this release one as a Torrent file?
[04:55] <Stevethepirate> BMT: looks like lack of memory
[04:55] <LjL> P3nnywise: i think so
[04:55] <Stevethepirate> or, the vlc has bad memory allocation
[04:55] <thechris> Slart: so, the reboot works
[04:55] <LjL> Stevethepirate: looks like an xvideo problem to me
[04:56] <BMT> Stevethepirate, i have 2 gb of memory on a dual core laptop
[04:56] <thechris> I always forget that ubuntu's X11 support is flakey
[04:56] <[nrx] > can anyone offer any suggestions as to why KDE\GNOME wont logout for me? all I get is a blank screen after 3-4 seconds and the pc does nothing
[04:56] <P3nnywise> LjL, do you know where? im not a very good searcher
[04:56] <Stevethepirate> Then LjL is right.. xvideo has phailed
[04:56] <LjL> perhaps try "vlc --no-overlay"
[04:56] <dystopianray> BMT: what video card do you have?
[04:56] <BMT> dystopianray, intell
[04:56] <BMT> intel
[04:57] <td-linux> hmm I thought intel had good support
[04:57] <LjL> P3nnywise: right there on the page i gave you. http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/
[04:57] <BMT> dystopianray, do want to know the exact name of the video card in the laptop ?
[04:57] <oandrew> watch me unravel ,I'll soon be naked
[04:58] <dystopianray> BMT: try adding this to your xorg.conf (in the device section) and then restart X: Option "LinearAlloc" "8160"
[04:58] <oandrew> llying on the floor ,i've come undonw
[04:58] <BMT> dystopianray, here is the gfx card : Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[04:58] <BMT> dystopianray, i will try that
[04:58] <Stevethepirate> LjL: yo.
[04:59] <Macris> Hello everyone, i am looking a live cd distro that comes with network monitoring and performance testing tools like iperf... can anyone suggest me a good network testing disrtro
[04:59] <Stevethepirate> LjL: Do you know of any icon eye candy programs... like.. i saw one in a youtube video of beryl vs aero.. had a nice icon thingy... like sparkle effects, etc.
[04:59] <dystopianray> BMT: It'll look something like this: http://pastebin.com/m622f8c4c
[04:59] <LjL> Stevethepirate: hm i'm not too much into eye candy
[05:00] <[nrx] > Can anyone offer any help as to why when I try and logout/shutdown within KDE/GNOME the screen goes blank and doesn't do anything?
[05:00] <BMT> dystopianray, should i replace what i have now for 'option' with what you suggest
[05:00] <BMT>  ?
[05:00] <dystopianray> Macris: nubuntu might
[05:00] <graigs> is there a way to disable suspend to ram?  the time i actually used it it screwed up my first hdd partition. and i dont want to have it going at all.
[05:00] <dystopianray> BMT: you can have multiple options
[05:00] <LjL> graigs, it's often problematic currently.
[05:00] <dystopianray> BMT: unless you have an existing LinearAlloc option, then it won't matter
[05:00] <oandrew> Macris: and backtrack??
[05:00] <BMT> dystopianray, so i can add your suggesttion right under the option that is already there
[05:00] <graigs> yeah, i know. thats why i wanna disable it.
[05:00] <dystopianray> BMT: yes
[05:00] <Macris> dystopianray: allready checked that one out, it seems to be outdated and laging iperf
[05:01] <BMT> dystopianray, ok i don't so let me try that now
[05:01] <graigs> will disabling acpi prevent ubuntu from entering standby?
[05:01] <dystopianray> graigs: yes
[05:01] <graigs> i disabled acpi once. and the suspend command was still on the menu.
[05:01] <LjL> graigs: it surely will, but it seems a bit drastic
[05:01] <Macris> oandrew: will check that, thanks
[05:02] <graigs> so if i disable acpi, and i click the suspend button, it wont suspend?
[05:02] <graigs> last time i suspended, i had to reinstall ubuntu :(
[05:02] <BMT> dystopianray, this is what the section look like now without your suggestion
[05:02] <dystopianray> graigs: why did you have to reinstall?
[05:03] <LjL> graigs: i wouldn't try it myself, but that should be the result yeah. it's weird that trying to suspend had *such* an effect, though
[05:03] <graigs> i dunno, i left it suspended over night, and when i came back, it wouldn't enter ubuntu. and so i reset it, and grub was gone.
[05:03] <fn0rd> !robotics
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about robotics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <Stevethepirate> [nrx] : when its shutting down, press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and see if any error messages occur
[05:04] <graigs> k. thanks.
[05:04] <dystopianray> BMT: ?
[05:04] <MrChicken> Hello :)
[05:04] <BMT> dystopianray, this is what it look like with your suggestion : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37787/plain/
[05:04] <fn0rd> Anyone here know about ubuntu and robotics - hobbyist level - inks or sutuff?
[05:04] <BMT> dystopianray, is that right ?
[05:04] <LjL> graigs: see http://jeremy.sunriseroad.net/2007/02/how-to-disable-suspend-and-hibernate-for-all-users-in-ubuntu/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1151456
[05:04] <jonmills> Does anyone know how to make 7.04 support the hardware-fakeraid built into the Intel ICH8 chipset common in most Core 2 Duo motherboards?
[05:05] <LjL> graigs: you really don't want to completely disable ACPI i think
[05:05] <graigs> probably not.
[05:05] <jonmills> I've tried the Desktop cd, tried the Alternate cd, no luck...
[05:05] <e\ectro_> has anyone been able to get the net-installer to auto install from a local repository onsite?  I have mirrored a repository, but it appears that the netboot installer looks for a directory called debian-installer under {main,restricted,etc}.
[05:05] <graigs> is there a config file that would let me disable just suspend to ram?
[05:05] <dystopianray> BMT: is that supposed to be your xorg.conf?
[05:05] <BMT> dystopianray, a section of it ....yes
[05:05] <e\ectro_> is there a way to mirror the debian installer directories under those parent directories?
[05:05] <dystopianray> BMT: you've given me the wrong thing, that's just your original error message link
[05:06] <BMT> dystopianray, sorry.....i will just try your suggestion and then restart x
[05:06] <fn0rd> is there a channel devoted to linux/robotics/hovvyist stuff?
[05:06] <JDLimbo> ok ok, gnome fails to load, goes as far as my login screen. When I try to login it says it failed to load, then says the problem is sometimes caused by .ICEauthority in my home directory being write-protected
[05:06] <dystopianray> BMT: if you pastebin it and give me the right link i'll have a look
[05:06] <LjL> graigs, first link i gave you says " Find the keys named can_hibernate and can_suspend. Uncheck them both." -- I would guess that leaving "can_hibernate" alone would only affect suspend-to-ram
[05:06] <fn0rd> @hobbyist duh!
[05:06] <JDLimbo> I'm running from the liveCD right now
[05:06] <graigs> ok. those links were helpful.
[05:07] <LjL> graigs: still, those are not systemwide settings... just gnome-wide
[05:07] <JDLimbo> checked my home dir and .ICEauthority is indeed write-protected
[05:07] <JDLimbo> claims it's owned by 1000
[05:07] <graigs> so, someone could suspend the thing from gdm?
[05:07] <LjL> graigs: probably not from gdm... but from a terminal
[05:08] <Yodud1> Hello, i'm having serious problem with ubuntu that i hope you can help me with, here it is: i installed ubuntu on a logical volume partition, i have three partition on this lvm, /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6 ( Ubuntu install partition ) and /dev/sda7, in GParted that are listed vertically in that order from top to bottom, i want to grow the sda6 partiton on the expense of the sda5 partition, i resized sda5, got unallocated space, but i can't seem to
[05:08] <Viden>  When i configure pidgin it isnt finding the nss or nspr libs ... is there a package version of those 2 libraries ?
[05:08] <graigs> oh, ok. well that should be ok.
[05:08] <BMT> dystopianray, i just restared x
[05:08] <dystopianray> BMT: do you get the same vlc error?
[05:09] <BMT> dystopianray, yes i did
 Does anyone know how to make 7.04 support the hardware-fakeraid built into the Intel ICH8 chipset common in most Core 2 Duo motherboards?
[05:09] <bapuni> friends xmms2 is not available in repos. why
[05:09] <Thoop> I believe I have that
[05:09] <BMT> dystopianray, also i wanted to mention that this only happens when i try to open a video file in vlc
[05:10] <BMT> dystopianray, it just disappears after i try to open a video file
[05:10] <Thoop> I used a tutorial at ubuntuforums.org
[05:10] <Yodud1> Hello, i'm having serious problem with ubuntu that i hope you can help me with, here it is: i installed ubuntu on a logical volume partition, i have three partition on this lvm, /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6 ( Ubuntu install partition ) and /dev/sda7, in GParted that are listed vertically in that order from top to bottom, i want to grow the sda6 partiton on the expense of the sda5 partition, i resized sda5, got unallocated space, but i can't seem to
[05:10] <graigs> ok, thanks alot LjL, that fixed the problem.
[05:11] <Viden> yodud1:  have you tried doing it through the gparted live cd ?
[05:11] <fn0rd> !motherboard
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about motherboard - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <Yodud1> viden: yes but it seems gparted isn't able to move ext3 partitoons ! Even tough they r OSS ! i mean comon am i stuckl with this configuration ?!
[05:12] <JDLimbo> gnome won't start, says the problem can sometimes be caused by .ICEauthority in my home dir being write protected. I checked it running from the liveCD and it is. Any ideas?
[05:12] <ubuntu_begineer> hi all
[05:12] <MartinW> I replaced my sources.list file with the one from the generator but It didn't make much difference (I'm now getting 2 errors)
[05:13] <Yodud1> Hello, i'm having serious problem with ubuntu that i hope you can help me with, here it is: i installed ubuntu on a logical volume partition, i have three partition on this lvm, /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6 ( Ubuntu install partition ) and /dev/sda7, in GParted that are listed vertically in that order from top to bottom, i want to grow the sda6 partiton on the expense of the sda5 partition, i resized sda5, got unallocated space, but i can't seem to
[05:13] <ubuntu_begineer> can anybody please tell me from where to get the drivers of x86 based motherboard (D945GNT) for ubuntu ?
[05:14] <Viden> !nss
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: what hardware componenet do you need drivers for?
[05:14] <Viden> Is there a package install for NSS ?
[05:14] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: you shouldn't have to dl any 3 party driver
[05:15] <Stev> hi, ive installed java 6 jdk, cause i need to isntall java mobiliy pack for netbeans, now the setup complains about jdk not found, where is jdk located?
[05:15] <ubuntu_begineer> well i tried the 7.04 live version and my lan card didnt work
[05:15] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: what model is it?
[05:15] <ubuntu_begineer> everything else works fine graphics & sound are ok
[05:15] <ubuntu_begineer> Lan ?
[05:15] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: yes
[05:15] <JDLimbo> ugh
[05:15] <ubuntu_begineer> well, its bulitin modem
[05:15] <irnet> ibnu
[05:16] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: a modem? not an ethernet card?
[05:16] <ubuntu_begineer> this 5.10 version of ubuntu automatically detect it
[05:16] <ubuntu_begineer> yes its a ethernet card
[05:16] <ezeb1> hi, im trying to set up an ubuntu virtual machine via ssh i just rented for hosting a website. i'm pretty noobie. how do i createa new superuser account so i can disable being able to login as root? adduser <username> admin doesnt work...?
[05:16] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: it detected the card but it doesn't work?
[05:16] <ubuntu_begineer> yup
[05:16] <Yodud1> Hello, i'm having serious problem with ubuntu that i hope you can help me with, here it is: i installed ubuntu on a logical volume partition, i have three partition on this lvm, /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6 ( Ubuntu install partition ) and /dev/sda7, in GParted that are listed vertically in that order from top to bottom, i want to grow the sda6 partiton on the expense of the sda5 partition, i resized sda5, got unallocated space, but i can't seem to
[05:16] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: what model is the card?
[05:17] <ubuntu_begineer> sorry i think it didnt detect on 7.04 version
[05:17] <JDLimbo> gnome won't start, says the problem can sometimes be caused by .ICEauthority in my home dir being write protected. I checked it running from the liveCD and it is. Any ideas?
[05:17] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: that hardware is drivn by the e1000 driver
[05:17] <BMT> Stev, locate jdk
[05:17] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: pastebin the output of lspci
[05:18] <Stev> BMT: nothing relevant
[05:18] <Jordan_U> JDLimbo, Do you run GUI apps with sudo ?
[05:18] <ubuntu_begineer> sorry ?
[05:18] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: when in the liveCD if the driver does not load autmatically do in a terminal 'sudo modprobe e1000'
[05:18] <dystopianray> !pastebin | ubuntu_begineer
[05:18] <ubotu> ubuntu_begineer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:18] <BMT> Stev, reinstall jdk
[05:18] <Stev> BMT: i've just installed id
[05:18] <JDLimbo> Jordan: not generally. The problem, I think, originated with this script I run to use my s-video tv-out -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=361124&highlight=laptop+s-video+out
[05:19] <JDLimbo> it crashes sometimes but has never screwed it up this bad
[05:19] <ubuntu_begineer> how to get the output of laspci ?
[05:19] <ubuntu_begineer> sorry im new to ubuntu
[05:19] <Stev> BMT: however, done but nothing changed
[05:19] <BMT> Stev, my jdk is located in my home directory...extact spot where the file is located that i download from sun
[05:19] <JDLimbo> ubuntu_begineer, applications>accessories>terminal
[05:19] <JDLimbo> type lspci and hit enter
[05:19] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: again from a terminal type 'lspci' and hit enter
[05:20] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: type 'lspci' at a terminal
[05:20] <ubuntu_begineer> k
[05:20] <test_>  	/msg eW] -Solipse XDCC SEND #8
[05:20] <Stev> BMT: i've isntalled the package in officials repo,
[05:20] <JDLimbo> Jordan_U: not generally. The problem, I think, originated with this script I run to use my s-video tv-out -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=361124&highlight=laptop+s-video+out
[05:20] <Stev> BMT: i haven't used the installer from sun
[05:20] <BMT> stev, apt-get ?
[05:20] <JDLimbo> it crashes sometimes but has never screwed it up this bad. I do have to use sudo for that script
[05:20] <Stev> BMT: yes
[05:20] <Jordan_U> JDLimbo, They probably used sudo when they shouldn't have also. Stay away from that script if that's what did it and run "sudo chmod yourusername:yourusername ~/.ICEauthority"
[05:21] <Stev> BMT: sun-java6-jdk
[05:21] <Jordan_U> JDLimbo, Scratchh that
[05:21] <JDLimbo> ok
[05:21] <Jordan_U> JDLimbo, I meant chown, not chmod
[05:21] <BMT> Stev, let me try that
[05:21] <JDLimbo> Jordan_U okay, thank you
[05:21] <ubuntu_begineer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37790/plain/
[05:21] <ubuntu_begineer> here u go
[05:21] <Jordan_U> JDLimbo, np
[05:22] <Jordan_U> !gksudo for more info on what happened
[05:22] <ubuntu_begineer> but its working on this version why it any picking it up in newer version ?
[05:22] <Jordan_U> JDLimbo, See the link from ubotu for what I think happened ( if ubotu is awake )
[05:22] <combinio> is this possible to connect MAC OS X to Kubuntu 7.04 to have INTERNET ?? :)) i mean if i have wireless and my neighbour has MAC OS X - is this possible to share a network with him ??
[05:22] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: run: sudo update-pciid
[05:22] <combinio> he's Macintosh and i have PC :]
[05:22] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: then pastebin the output of lspci again
[05:23] <JDLimbo> ubotu !gksudo
[05:23] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[05:23] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: do 'sudo modprobe e1000' in a terminal
[05:23] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: sorry that's: sudo update-pciids
[05:23] <ubuntu_begineer> no problem
[05:23] <combinio> does any of u have also macintosh ? :]
[05:23] <combinio> i mean MAC OS X & (K)Ubuntu ?? ;>
[05:24] <BMT> stev, downloading......
[05:24] <Stev> BMT: ok tnx
[05:24] <Jordan_U> combinio, I do, and I know that what you are trying to do it possible, unfortunately I don't know exactly how
[05:25] <combinio> Jordan_U: but u think is this possible ? :))
[05:25] <ubuntu_begineer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37791/plain/
[05:25] <Jordan_U> combinio, I know it is
[05:25] <ubuntu_begineer> @ urusul i have do it everytime i load ubuntu ?
[05:25] <combinio> Jordan_U: thaaaaanks a lot then :) i'm gonna get some more help otherwhere but u helped me a lot :)
[05:25] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: have you run modrobe?
[05:26] <spyteman> can someone help me with lirc and my ati remote control? it's running okish with default drivers by ubuntu but some buttons are not working, and i'm not sure how i get it to work with lirc (or what driver i should use to compile lirc)
[05:26] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: if it works you just have to add e1000 to the /etc/modules file
[05:26] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: pastebin the output of lspci
[05:26] <corrado> #join overflow
[05:26] <stefano_> Anyone looking for a good C/C++ IDE, try EasyEclipse, seams rather fast compared to "Eclipse"
[05:26] <dystopianray> stefano_: what is the difference?
[05:26] <stefano_> http://www.easyeclipse.org/site/home/
[05:27] <nephish> anyone know of an app that can limit bandwidth for a particular port ?
[05:27] <stefano_> dystopianray, I have tried eclipse and i was repelled from that ide because it was rather too slow for anything.
[05:27] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: and the driver will load each boot. but first you have to tell me if the 'sudo modprobe e1000' succeed and if you have a net interface now ;)
[05:27] <ubuntu_begineer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37792/plain/
[05:28] <stefano_> But EasyEclipse comes in the flavor you want. If you need it for C/C++, you only get that.
[05:28] <dystopianray> stefano_: it's just eclipse packaged differently
[05:28] <Stev> BMT: i'm trying to install mobility pack for netbeans butit complains that i've no jdk installed -.-
[05:28] <benj3one> can I get some help with this?
[05:28] <benj3one> root@ubuntu:/var/www# touch test.txt
[05:28] <benj3one> touch: cannot touch `test.txt': Read-only file system
[05:28] <ubuntu_begineer> but how can i test it its working fine on this version its not working rite on a newer version
[05:28] <fermatstheorem> my brothers my brothers
[05:29] <benj3one> almost all places are read only!!
[05:29] <stefano_> dystopianray, well that might be true but performance wise it isn't the same eclipse, at least it works like i want it to. Eclipse was lagging for me, AMD X2 6000+, 2gig ram.
[05:29] <Puppy_>  what is a good media player for mp3 players (I have the samsung k5 not an ipod)?
[05:29] <dystopianray> stefano_: how exactly have they made it faster?
[05:29] <fermatstheorem> Puppy_: amarok, rhythmbox
[05:29] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: run 'ifconfig -a' if you see the interfaces ( eth0 or eth1) the driver loaded and is driving the hardware
[05:29] <Puppy_> fermtstheorem: I will try them.
[05:29] <Puppy_> thanks
[05:29] <fermatstheorem> Puppy_: with appropriate plugins ofcourse
[05:30] <stefano_> dystopianray, I am not pushing anyone to use it. Well, check their site. I don't know how they did it, but does on my machine.
[05:30] <fermatstheorem> Puppy_:
[05:30] <fermatstheorem> Puppy_: donot forge to download hte plugins
[05:30] <stefano_> Compare to "vanilla" eclipse.
[05:30] <dystopianray> stefano_: seems like a waste of time and more work having to maintain it outside of apt
[05:30] <Puppy_> Fermatstheorem: what do you mean?
[05:30] <fermatstheorem> Puppy_: ubuntu by default does not have codecs for mp3 aac etc due to license issues
[05:31] <rafaelscj> hello
[05:31] <rc55> Does anyone here have experience with using ZFS on Ubuntu? I'd like to ask a few related questions and would really appreciate some help.
[05:31] <marlun> When I open up a gnome-terminal it is very small and the text seem to be very very small too. It doesn't help to use the zoom functions. Any idea what could be wrong?
[05:31] <fermatstheorem> !mp3 | Puppy_
[05:31] <ubotu> Puppy_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:31] <ubuntu_begineer> the command is not returning anything
[05:31] <Puppy_> fermatstheorem: I have them installed already.
[05:31] <stefano_> dystopianray, yeah i thought about that too. But EasyEclipse website offers a linux bin, you just download, extract and ./eclipse.
[05:31] <rafaelscj> fermatstheorem, ubuntu have free codecs
[05:31] <Puppy_> thanks. bye.
[05:31] <cmak> when ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-server are the same with just different preinstalled stuff, then why is the server edition supported longer?
[05:31] <fermatstheorem> Puppy_: if you use kde, amarok rocks
[05:31] <dystopianray> stefano_: i can just sudo apt-get install eclipse
[05:31] <Puppy_> ok. thanks
[05:31] <Puppy_> bye
[05:32] <stefano_> dystopianray, ^^ i am not pushing either. Just gave my opinion about EasyEclipse being faster out of the box than Eclipse is.
[05:32] <BMT> Stev, sorry for the delay
[05:32] <ubuntu_begineer> dystopianray: wht to do now ?
[05:32] <BMT> Stev, this is what i got after doing a locate on ' sun-java' : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37793/plain/
[05:32] <Stev> BMT: np, tnx to you for taking time to help me
[05:33] <fermatstheorem> eclipse..pfft..emacs
[05:33] <PureEvilGeek> how do i go about in 7.04 formatting a partition?
[05:33] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: somebody was telling you to load the e1000 driver, did that work?
[05:33] <dystopianray> PureEvilGeek: use gparted
[05:33] <rafaelscj> how do I to install java runtime plugin for firefox in synaptcs?
[05:33] <dystopianray> stefano_: i find that hard to beleive
[05:33] <SlimeyPete> !java
[05:33] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[05:34] <dystopianray> rafaelscj: which version of java?
[05:34] <stefano_> fermatstheorem, i haven't tried emacs... i would have if i were used to the "make" files and basic file editing. Since i look for IDE, EasyEclipse seams to be the "best" imho.
[05:34] <ubuntu_begineer> i have to use tht command to load drivers ?
[05:34] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: did you try it?
[05:34] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: run ifconfig -a
[05:34] <rafaelscj> dystopianray, "non-free"
[05:34] <dystopianray> rafaelscj: java 5 or java 6?
[05:34] <stefano_> dystopianray, hehehe, me too. i thought they were the same thing. You could just try it, if ya want to find out. It's only 120 MBs dl.
[05:34] <Stev> BMT: so? i see only one jdk folder in your home (guess that is jdk from sum site)
[05:34] <fermatstheorem> stefano_: emacs is powerful, albeit too powerful for beginners, it has a steep learning curve but once youve mastered it, you wouldn t want anythihng else
[05:34] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: if the modrobe didn't returned anything it somehow worked
[05:35] <BMT> Stev, yes that is jdk from sun sie
[05:35] <rafaelscj> dystopianray, I don't know, I want to open a url that uses java
[05:35] <dystopianray> stefano_: it's too big to download and I already have eclipse installed
[05:35] <ubuntu_begineer> both commands are not returning anything
[05:35] <BMT> Stev, site
[05:35] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: paste the outut of ifconfig -a in pastebin
[05:35] <ezeb1> not an inspiring problem i know, but have rented an ubuntu virtual machine to host a website, and want to create a non-root user that i can use from the outset how do i? adduser <username> isnt working, and neither strangely is the 'man' command... i think root is the only account there at the moment
[05:35] <fermatstheorem> rafaelscj: you need to downloead the jre and the plugin
[05:35] <Stev> BMT: so sun-java6-jdk does not isntall the jdk??
[05:35] <ubuntu_begineer> its not answering
[05:35] <dystopianray> rafaelscj: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[05:36] <ubuntu_begineer> > ifconfig -a
[05:36] <ubuntu_begineer> >
[05:36] <ubuntu_begineer> thts wht happing
[05:36] <BMT> Stev, yes it did ...look at usr/lib/jvm
[05:36] <stefano_> fermatstheorem, I am sure. I have seen some screen shots. It is that learning curve what i don't want. I moved from windows dev to linux dev. Nothing seemed to be cosie enough to accept a VC++ dever.
[05:36] <truiz> #channe
[05:36] <rafaelscj> dystopianray, I will do
[05:36] <truiz> #channel
[05:36] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: ifconfig -a should at least show you the 'lo' (loopback) interface
[05:36] <HugCows> how can i change my screen resolution to 1280x800 when the screen resolution preferences only give me 1024x768 as the largest res?
[05:36] <dystopianray> Stev: it does
[05:36] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: if it shows nothing then something is very fishy in your setup
[05:36] <BMT> HugCows, what is your gfx card ?
[05:36] <stefano_> The point is i don't want to switch to windows. ^^, pisses me off every time i switch to it.
[05:37] <ubuntu_begineer> nope its not working may be this command works on newer version of ubuntu as im using 5.10 version is very outdated
[05:37] <dystopianray> HugCows: runt he following (select your video driver then all the resolutions you want to use): sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:37] <HugCows> BMT: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[05:37] <fermatstheorem> stefano_: i understand, spend some time regularly with emacs, you will start enjoying it, it is for devs by devs
[05:37] <Stev> BMT: mobility pack says that i have no jdk, i tryed with: ./netbeans_mobility-5_5_1-linux.bin -is:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/, what's rong?
[05:37] <Jkessler> how do i list all of the currently mounted filesystems?
[05:37] <dystopianray> HugCows: select 'i810' as the video driver
[05:37] <fermatstheorem> stefano_: it is not easy, but worth the efffot
[05:37] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: run 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[05:38] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: ifconfig -a does not show anything?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Jkessler,  with the mount command.
[05:38] <stefano_> fermatstheorem, does it have Code Completion? Advanced as Visual Assist X? That would move me to it in a blink of an eye.
[05:38] <ubuntu_begineer> no nothing
[05:38] <Jkessler> just 'mount' ?
[05:38] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: and please do as i do and put my nick in front of you responses
[05:38] <ubuntu_begineer> k
[05:38] <BMT> Stev, i don't think apt-get actually install the jdk
[05:38] <fermatstheorem> !emacs
[05:38] <MartinW> !gpgerrors
[05:38] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpgerrors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <dystopianray> BMT: the jdks are in the repos
[05:38] <MartinW> Text editor
[05:39] <Stev> BMT: that is what i said before...
[05:39] <dystopianray> Stev: what does java -version say?
[05:39] <ubuntu_begineer> erUSUL: thts also not responding
[05:39] <BMT> dystopianray, but for some reason they did not install at all, now that i am looking at more closely
[05:39] <MartinW> !gpg
[05:39] <Stev> dystopianray: java version "1.4.2"
[05:39] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[05:39] <dystopianray> Stev: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:39] <ubuntu_begineer> erUSUL: may be this command works on newer version of ubuntu as im using 5.10 version which is very outdated
[05:40] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: o_O! nothing seems to work in your instalation... can you try installing a newer version of ubuntu?
[05:40] <dystopianray> Stev: select the 1.6 java you just installed
[05:40] <derrick-> does 'remove kubuntu-desktop' removes ALL KDE softwares? ;;
[05:40] <bapuni> does anyone help to install xmms2 in ubuntu 7.04?
[05:40] <Stev> wow
[05:40] <Stev> it works
[05:40] <Stev> !
[05:40] <Stev> dystopianray: tnx :)
[05:40] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: both ifconfig and the /etc/ script should work in every ubuntu version
[05:40] <erUSUL> !enter | Stev
[05:40] <ubotu> Stev: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:40] <BMT> dystopianray, thanks
[05:40] <ubuntu_begineer> erUSUL: i tried the live version of 7.04 but ethernet card didnt work
[05:40] <BMT> Stev, sorry !
[05:41] <Stev> err, yes i'm sorry :)
[05:41] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: we're trying to help you get it working
[05:41] <Dr_willis> derrick-,  no it does not.
[05:41] <rafaelscj> dystopianray, SlimeyPete: thanks
[05:41] <Stev> BMT: thanks for your time :) appreciated it ^^
[05:41] <dsl988> m" slimey
[05:41] <PureEvilGeek> dystopianray: is there a way to unmount a hard disk partition without restarting?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> PureEvilGeek,  'sudo umount /media/whatever'
[05:41] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: all the commands i gave you should work the same in the livecd. try them (modprobing the e1000 driver is the important part)
[05:41] <ubuntu_begineer> well, i appreciate tht
[05:42] <derrick-> my loading screen is kubuntu,,,my login window is gnome...i am using xubuntu...all messed up!  :))
[05:42] <BMT> HugCows, what driver are you using now ?
[05:42] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: if the driver loads you should have a interface to configure in System>Admin>Network
[05:42] <rafaelscj> derrick, here too
[05:42] <fermatstheorem> derrick-: same here, xdm+kdm splash+gnome dkesotp
[05:42] <dystopianray> PureEvilGeek: yes, use 'umount'
[05:42] <nameless> someone can help me with ventrilo ?
[05:42] <derrick-> rafaelscj: hahaha...all i want is removing kubuntu loading screen...how?
[05:43] <dystopianray> derrick-: remove kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[05:43] <rafaelscj> derrick-, I want that too, but I don't know
[05:43] <BMT> can anyone give HugCows the url for fixing video resolution
[05:43] <derrick-> dystopianray:owhh ok ok,,,trying right now
[05:43] <PureEvilGeek> dystopianray Dr_willis thank you. i thought right clicking and unmounting would work but i guess it isn't perfect yet lol
[05:43] <ubuntu_begineer> its work not im pastebining it
[05:44] <dystopianray> HugCows: did you run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ?
[05:44] <ubuntu_begineer> may be i was doing something wrong
[05:44] <PureEvilGeek> now to decide if i want ext3 or fat32
[05:44] <Dr_willis> PureEvilGeek,  if its being accessed by some other programs it wont unmount.
[05:44] <slackern> You want to remove it or change it to the default Ubuntu one?
[05:44] <PureEvilGeek> Dr_willis: it should't have been. but who knows. sudo umount worked
[05:44] <fermatstheorem> stefano_: http://discuss.fogcreek.com/joelonsoftware/default.asp?cmd=show&ixPost=146002 - some frank disucssions on emacs
[05:44] <slackern> sorry last message was to derrick-
[05:44] <Dr_willis> PureEvilGeek,  just rember theres no N in 'umount' :)
[05:44] <rafaelscj> dystopianray, will apt-get remove kubuntu-artwork-usplash change to the ubuntu's one?
[05:45] <slackern> !usplash | derrick-
[05:45] <ubotu> derrick-: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[05:45] <dystopianray> rafaelscj: i'm not sure, but it will be rid of kubuntu's artwork
[05:45] <PureEvilGeek> oh you are confusing me;)
[05:45] <derrick-> ubotu:trying~
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trying~ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <craig1709> Hi - you're obviously busy, but I can wait  - Ubuntu 7.04 32bit on a Radeon 9200 SE - I have a 1280x800 resolution, the monitor reports it as being 1280x800, but it's being displayed in a horizontally squashed manner, almost square - and I can't seem to fix it
[05:45] <ubuntu_begineer> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37796/plain/
[05:45] <PureEvilGeek> Dr_willis: any chance if you know if there is a stable ext3 mounting tool for windows?
[05:45] <rafaelscj> slackern, I am want to change to default
[05:45] <ubuntu_begineer> erUSUL: thts ifconfig
[05:46] <fermatstheorem> craig1709: did you try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:46] <dystopianray> PureEvilGeek: stick to fat32 or ntfs if you're using windows
[05:46] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: there you go. Your ethernet card is eth0 just go to  System>Admin>Network and configure it
[05:46] <PureEvilGeek> dystopianray: i'm using ubuntu but i want the files to be accessable by windows if i ever have to dual boot or move them
[05:46] <SlimeyPete> PureEvilGeek: there is. www.fs-driver.org
[05:46] <craig1709> fermatstheorem: will try it now thanks
[05:46] <ubuntu_begineer> erUSUL: i did it but it didnt work
[05:46] <dystopianray> PureEvilGeek: I'd use ntfs
[05:47] <fermatstheorem> craig1709: run it from terminal
[05:47] <slackern> rafaelscj: if you do the thing that ubotu said then you will get a menu to choose between the Ubuntu/Kubuntu usplashes
[05:47] <SlimeyPete> dystopianray: why? the fs-driver stuff seems to work OK
[05:47] <nameless> none with ventrilo ?
[05:47] <ubuntu_begineer> erUSUL: i did put all the settings needed to connect like ip ,gateway but it didnt work
[05:47] <rafaelscj> slackern, thanks
[05:47] <dystopianray> PureEvilGeek: or fat32 if you don't need to use files larger than 4GB
[05:47] <dystopianray> SlimeyPete: I'd trust ntfs-3g a lot mroe than some random ext3 for windows driver
[05:48] <Jordan_U> combinio, If you are still there you can try firestarter, it has a feature specifically for this but I don't think that it works with wireless cards
[05:48] <PureEvilGeek> dystopianray: yeah thats the issue. the files could easily get over 4gb in some cases
[05:48] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: are you using a router?
[05:48] <ubuntu_begineer> erUSUL: nope
[05:48] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: how do you connect to internet?
[05:48] <PureEvilGeek> i've just been having problems using the ntfs-3g or i think i have. i'll know after the data is in a native partition
[05:48] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: did you pastebin the result of 'ifconfig -a' ?
[05:48] <SlimeyPete> dystopianray: *shrug* I trust both of them, but there's a longer history of writeable ext on Windows than writeable ntfs on Linux, so I'd trust fs-driver slightly more ;)
[05:48] <dsl988> anyone tried brasero?? what do you think?
[05:48] <fermatstheorem> ubuntu_begineer: acoustic coupler :-p
[05:49] <ubuntu_begineer> dystopianray: yes i did http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37796/plain/
[05:49] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: eth0 is your ethernet card, it should work automatically through network-manager if your network has dhcp
[05:49] <ubuntu_begineer> erUSUL: well, is a Lan i just have to put settings and it work
[05:50] <sakogti> hey guys i am currently using Fedora 7.. i am trying to find an article that has the diff between fedora and ubuntu any reason i should switch?
[05:50] <ubuntu_begineer> can u tell me how to connect to this channel through windows ?
[05:50] <fermatstheorem> sakogti: ubuntu has better hardware support, but it needs to be online for donwloading packages
[05:51] <craig1709> fermatstheorem: it didn't break, but didn't fix it either
[05:51] <fermatstheorem> sakogti: ubuntu takes care ofa ll package dependecies, way cleaner implementation
[05:51] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: you need to get a windows irc client
[05:51] <sakogti> i guess it wouldnt hurt to run fedora on my desktop and ubuntu on my laptop
[05:51] <ubuntu_begineer> like MIRC ?
[05:51] <Hush_> hello Friends :) What is the SDL and How to install it??
[05:51] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: yes that'll do
[05:51] <fermatstheorem> craig1709: how screwed up is the display now
[05:51] <wizo> hey, i apt-get install kismet, where would the conf file be?
[05:51] <wizo> i cant find it
[05:51] <dystopianray> Hush_: you should already have it
[05:52] <dystopianray> wizo: /etc/kismet/*
[05:52] <fermatstheorem> sakogti: ubuntu leans on gnome
[05:52] <wizo> oh
[05:52] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: you have to join some freenode server and then /join #ubuntu. In most irc clients that will be '/connect irc.freenode.net' (wait untill connected) and then /join #ubuntu
[05:52] <Hush_> error: *** SDL version 1.2.4 not found!
[05:52] <sakogti> i love gnome
[05:52] <wizo> thanks dystopianray!
[05:52] <slonbg> hi, I'm reading in the news section on ubuntu.com for something named JeOS. And I can not find anything more, no docs, no downloads. Any Idea where I can find this?
[05:52] <fermatstheorem> craig1709: garbled/lower ersolution?
[05:52] <MartinW> Simple Direct media Layer. It's a graphics library for games.
[05:52] <dystopianray> Hush_: dpkg -l | grep -i sdl
[05:53] <ubuntu_begineer> OK, i do one thing ill restart and try the newer version with those commands
[05:53] <stefano_> fermatstheorem, thanks for the link. I will look into these "emacs", i tried using vim before... complete disaster.
[05:53] <fermatstheorem> craig1709: is it a lcd/crt
[05:53] <lonran> i need i bittorent client. what do you use?
[05:53] <fermatstheorem> stefano_: i should warn you it aint easy at all
[05:53] <Hush_> i got same error :(
[05:53] <dystopianray> lonran: ktorrent or rtorrent
[05:53] <fermatstheorem> Stefano_: but it aint easy to fly an f16 either
[05:54] <dystopianray> lonran: ktorrent has utorrent compatible DHT/Peer-Exchange
[05:54] <ubuntu_begineer> erUSUL: sudo modprobe e1000 is the command to load the driver for ethernet card ?
[05:54] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: does ifconfig -a list anything?
[05:54] <ubuntu_begineer> dystopianray: yes
[05:54] <fermatstheorem> craig1709: please msg me only in the channel, no priv msgs please
[05:54] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: does it list eth0?
[05:54] <ubuntu_begineer> dystopianray: yes
[05:54] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: then your nic should already work
[05:54] <fermatstheorem> craig1709: horizontally squished... did you try other resolutinos?
[05:55] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: you should have a system tray applet that shows it as being connected
[05:55] <craig1709> fermatstheorem: sorry - all lower resolutions are fine
[05:55] <ubuntu_begineer> dystopianray: they say ur not connected (tht two computers)
[05:55] <fermatstheorem> craig1709: at some resolutions the aspect ration gets messed up
[05:55] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: does your network have dhcp?
[05:56] <GreyGhost> !rar
[05:56] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:56] <ubuntu_begineer> dystopianray: sorry i dont know wht tht mean ?
[05:56] <craig1709> fermatstheorem: okay, any fix?
[05:56] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: do you have a router on your network?
[05:56] <fermatstheorem> craig1709: play around with other resolutino values and choose the one which looks sane
[05:56] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: do you normally have to manually configure the network settings or does it 'just work'?
[05:56] <ubuntu_begineer> dystopianray: no
[05:57] <GreyGhost> !info unrar-free
[05:57] <ubuntu_begineer> dystopianray: i have to configure it
[05:57] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[05:57] <dystopianray> GreyGhost: unrar-free is near useless
[05:57] <GreyGhost> O_o ok
[05:57] <craig1709> fermatstheorem: 1280x768 it'll have to be, shame - thanks for your help
[05:57] <Hush_> CAN I REINSTALL SDL?? OR INSTALL NEWEST VERSION??
[05:57] <dystopianray> Hush_: you should already have it
[05:57] <ubuntu_begineer> dystopianray: every time i installed windows i have to just put the settings in my windows and it works
[05:57] <GreyGhost> dystopianray , ok .. should u use unrar or rar package?
[05:57] <fermatstheorem> craig1709: ive tried that even in my lcd, it quite looks skewed
[05:58] <GreyGhost> Hush_ ,use apt-get ?
[05:58] <Hush_> YES
[05:58] <f3trio3d2x> #puppy
[05:58] <dystopianray> GreyGhost: unrar, alternatively use winrar in wine (it works great)
[05:58] <craig1709> fermatstheorem: I'll play around
[05:58] <SuperLag> Is there a way, with sed, to specify starting at the end of a line?
[05:58] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: ok, the system-tray applet should have an option for manually configuring the interface
[05:58] <GreyGhost> dystopianray ,ok tahnks
[05:58] <savetheWorld> SuperLag: "xyz$"
[05:59] <dystopianray> SuperLag: blah$
[05:59] <GreyGhost> Hush_ ,so it is not installing?
[05:59] <savetheWorld> SuperLag: that matches xyz at the end of the line
[05:59] <ubuntu_begineer> dystopianray: yes i did choose static ip and put all the settings in it but it didnt work
[05:59] <SuperLag> I'm trying to remove a bunch of whitespace at the end of a line, but there are some spaces before the end, that are valid
[05:59] <Hush_> NO
[05:59] <Cas> Hi, Can somebody tell me how I can make a WEP encrypted wifi connection from the command line?
[05:59] <savetheWorld> SuperLag: what does 1 line of that look like?
[05:59] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: did you try to ping another machine on the lan?
[05:59] <ubuntu_begineer> dystopianray: no
[05:59] <dystopianray> ubuntu_begineer: try that
[05:59] <GreyGhost> Hush_: ,paste your commandline
[05:59] <Hush_>  Couldn't find package SDL
[06:00] <Hush_>  Couldn't find package SDL
[06:00] <ubuntu_begineer> dystopianray: ok ill try
[06:00] <dystopianray> Hush_: dpkg -l | grep sdl
[06:00] <ubuntu_begineer> THANKS all 4 help
[06:00] <savetheWorld> SuperLag: copy 1 line of it to the channel please
[06:00] <erUSUL> ubuntu_begineer: yes that's the command
[06:00] <SuperLag> foo,bar,baz,blah" <------------------- white space (without quotes) ---------------------> "<end of line here>
[06:00] <ubuntu_begineer> THANKS
[06:00] <pc1> hello
[06:01] <Hush_> here is the output
[06:01] <SuperLag> savetheWorld: it's a CSV file, and the last field is 255 chars long... I want to strip all the whitespace from the end of the last field
[06:01] <Hush_> server@server:~/Desktop/supertux-0.1.3$ dpkg -l | grep sdl
[06:01] <Hush_> ii  libsdl1.2debian                            1.2.11-7ubuntu1                        Simple DirectMedia Layer
[06:01] <Hush_> ii  libsdl1.2debian-alsa                       1.2.11-7ubuntu1                        Simple DirectMedia Layer (with X11 and ALSA options)
[06:01] <Hush_> server@server:~/Desktop/supertux-0.1.3$
[06:01] <Pici> !paste | Hush_
[06:01] <ubuntu_begineer> OK ill restart and try it again
[06:01] <ubotu> Hush_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:01] <savetheWorld> SuperLag:  sed -er 's/[ ] *$//'
[06:01] <ubuntu_begineer> Thanks again 4 help
[06:01] <savetheWorld> SuperLag:  sed -e 's/[ ] *$//'
[06:01] <savetheWorld> no "r"
[06:01] <Hush_> sorry:(
[06:01] <pc1> hola
[06:02] <npnufn> what is the command to view all the connections, it is actually net but forgot the parameters.
[06:02] <Pici> HipotermiA: supertux is in the repos, you shouldnt have to compile it from source.
[06:02] <Jordan_U_> combinio, I can confirm that firestarter *does* work with wireless, I am using it right now to share my connection
[06:02] <savetheWorld> SuperLag: since you said whitespace, you put a tab and a sp[ace chare inside the brackets
[06:02] <Pici> npnufn: nstat ( -tanp are useful arguments)
[06:02] <dystopianray> SuperLag: can you use \s$ ?
[06:02] <savetheWorld> SuperLag: YOUR WELCOME
[06:02] <GreyGhost> Hush_: are you looking for the dev package?
[06:02] <npnufn> thanks pici; now I won't forget this.
[06:03] <SuperLag> savetheWorld: sweet!
[06:03] <SuperLag> savetheWorld: thank you
[06:03] <savetheWorld> :)
[06:03] <Hush_> yes
[06:04] <dystopianray> Pici: don't you mean netstat?
[06:04] <Pici> dystopianray: er, I did, I dont know why I typed nstat
[06:04] <GreyGhost> Hush_ then apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev
[06:04] <dystopianray> npnufn: use netstat not nstat
[06:04] <Pici> npnufn: Are you still here? I meant netstat
[06:04] <GreyGhost> should work
[06:05] <npnufn> Pici; yes,l I remembered that command.
[06:05] <npnufn> any how thanks dystopianray :=)
[06:05] <npnufn> :-)
[06:05] <GreyGhost> Hush_ ,any luck
[06:05] <GreyGhost> ?
[06:06] <Hush_> thanks :)
[06:08] <rafaelscj> is the window manager the unique difference betwen k/ubuntu?
[06:08] <Pici> rafaelscj: Yes.
[06:09] <dystopianray> rafaelscj: it's a lot more than just a window manager
[06:09] <dystopianray> rafaelscj: kubuntu uses kde rather than gnome
[06:09] <ubunturos> however, surprisingly, kubuntu is able to detect and run my ADSL through USB, where Ubuntu (same version) doesn't :-/
[06:10] <rafaelscj> dystopianray, I know, but how about the "wizards" like network-manager... are the same?
[06:10] <dystopianray> rafaelscj: they both have network-manager, ubuntu has nm-applet, kubuntu has knetworkmanager
[06:11] <dystopianray> rafaelscj: if you prefer gnome use ubuntu, if you prefer kde use kubuntu
[06:11] <gessi74> please what the name of channel for italian ubuntu??thank you
[06:11] <dystopianray> !it
[06:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:13] <muzik> okay, i booted into 7.04 disc and i have no background, and my mouse doesnt work, so much for bug fixes
[06:14] <muzik> seems its locked up, the virtual terminals wont load either, its stuck in X
[06:14] <dystopianray> muzik: how much memory does your machine have?
[06:14] <muzik> 2GB
[06:14] <rocunreal> 2GB here too
[06:14] <muzik> well 1.99
[06:14] <JonaTh> !e
[06:14] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[06:14] <JonaTh> =i
[06:14] <dystopianray> muzik: try restarting
[06:14] <JonaTh> !info amarok
[06:14] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.5-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 14853 kB, installed size 33992 kB
[06:14] <muzik> ...okay
[06:15] <ArmedKing> !info Open Arena
[06:15] <ubotu> Package open does not exist in feisty
[06:15] <ubunturos> !wine
[06:15] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:15] <muzik> "Start or install ubuntu" or "Start ubunut in safe graphics mode"
[06:15] <dystopianray> muzik: try the safe graphics mode if the other doesn't work
[06:16] <muzik> booting
[06:16] <BBTHATSME> A unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.
[06:16] <BBTHATSME> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[06:16] <BBTHATSME> 'E:The package pidgin-plugin-pack needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.'
[06:16] <muzik> thanks for your help so far today btw :)
[06:16] <BBTHATSME> That happaned after I tried to install pidgin plugins
[06:16] <BBTHATSME> and now I cant get into synaptic
[06:16] <sid> How dO i change the hostname?
[06:17] <onats> what's the command to delete a directory, subdirectory, and all files in it?
[06:17] <kRush> rm -rf /dir
[06:17] <dystopianray> onats: rm -rf
[06:17] <muzik> wow fast
[06:17] <USMarine> rm -R
[06:17] <muzik> lol
[06:17] <onats> thanks crush, dystopianray!
[06:18] <DigeratiX>  when I mount a windows share under my profile or from ssh, it shows up on the other users desktop, how can I remove thelink to it from the their desktop
[06:18] <BBTHATSME> how does this work Ive never used IRC before
[06:18] <ArmedKing> What package does Ubuntu Desktop-Effects need installed, because he refuses to turn on some way. Anyway i can check?
[06:18] <dystopianray> ArmedKing: what video card do you have?
[06:18] <muzik> BBTHATSME: if you have used msn, this is a giant msn convo, with in this room over 1200 people in it
[06:18] <Pici> !enter | BBTHATSME
[06:18] <ubotu> BBTHATSME: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:19] <JuJuBee> I wish to install an email server in my classroom.  I have a public (static) IP address.  Should I use sendmail, qmail, postfix, citadel etc ?  I want simple.  I really only need it for some php mail functions embedded in a website I want to use.
[06:19] <ArmedKing> I have an Nvidia GeForce 8600GT SLI-Connected up and running wioth the Nvidia Drivers
[06:20] <dystopianray> ArmedKing: which nvidia drivers? you need the very latest that aren't in the repos for your card
[06:20] <cox377> is the locate command installed by default?
[06:20] <dystopianray> JuJuBee: postfix is supposed to be quite good, sendmail is very complicated
[06:20] <dystopianray> cox377: yes
[06:20] <muzik> note on my issue, booting into 7.04 with the aim of dual screens: it boots in, atm its loading, but the mouse works, and i can see the desktops on both screens [cloned]
[06:20] <jackc> USA people, does www.zymic.com resolve (should bring up password box)?
[06:21] <ArmedKing> dystopianray: I used the Nvidia drivers using there installer because anything else wont work because my card is not supported i Have Direct Rendering and glxgears gives me 13000Ffs
[06:21] <dystopianray> jackc: it works from australia if that helps
[06:21] <JuJuBee> I have read that sendmail is hard to configure.  If postfix is easy, then that's for me.  Any experience with it?
[06:21] <dystopianray> ArmedKing: ok, you need to make an addition to your xorg.conf
[06:21] <cox377> dystopianray: when i tyre it in i get this
[06:21] <USMarine> jackc no
[06:21] <cox377> dystopianray: locate: /var/cache/locate/locatedb: No such file or directory
[06:21] <cox377> dystopianray: tyre*
[06:21] <cox377> type*
[06:21] <teratoma_> so when I download the official ubuntu feisty ISO, will it have all the recent updates, or will i have to run apt-get update and download all the recent updates ?
[06:21] <dystopianray> cox377: try sudo updatedb
[06:22] <BBTHATSME> Well I cannot access any package managers including apt, synaptic, GDeb, etc, all this happaned after I tried installing a .deb for pidgin plugins
[06:22] <ArmedKing> dystopianray: What addition?
[06:22] <dystopianray> teratoma_: you have to update and download
[06:22] <bastid_raZor> teratoma_: you'll have to update it after the install
[06:22] <teratoma_> is gutsy coming out really soon?  would it be worth it just to run that ?
[06:22] <dystopianray> ArmedKing: you need to add this to the device section of your xorg.conf: Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals"
[06:22] <fiyawerx> hey guys, what program do you use to get a stream from your tv card?
[06:22] <cox377> does anyone know if apache2 should create a cgi-bin folder by default?
[06:22] <bastid_raZor> teratoma_: october some time..
[06:23] <dystopianray> teratoma_: it'll be released at the end of october, so it won't be out for over a month
[06:23] <fiyawerx> !tv
[06:23] <ubotu> http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[06:23] <dystopianray> fiyawerx: is it a digital tv stream?
[06:23] <USMarine> cox377 it does
[06:24] <dystopianray> cox377: USMarine: it doesn't, but you can trivially create it
[06:24] <fiyawerx> dystopianray: not sure, don't think so tho, a friend is asking me what program he can use
[06:24] <cox377> USMarine: any ideas why it isn't under my var/www/cgi-bin
[06:24] <dystopianray> fiyawerx: if it's digital I recommend kaffeine
[06:24] <USMarine> i think it does
[06:24] <DigeratiX> nm solved
[06:24] <cox377> dystopianray: just by mkdir cgi-bin?
[06:24] <dystopianray> cox377: yes
[06:24] <USMarine> well just install cgiirc and it will create :P
[06:24] <cmak> what is the "chkconfig" on ubuntu?
[06:26] <fiyawerx> dystopianray: thanks, told'em to try that
[06:28] <dystopianray> cox377: apache will alias /cgi-bin to /usr/lib/cgi-bin by default
[06:28] <ArmedKing> dystopianray: K m8 tried that now, Still doesnt work. When i run desktop-eefects from terminal it simply says nvidia hardware not available, Here the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37802/
[06:28] <PureEvilGeek> how do i change the owner of a file/ folder?
[06:28] <dystopianray> ArmedKing: did you restart X?
[06:28] <ArmedKing> dystopianray: Yes i did
[06:28] <dystopianray> ArmedKing: I'm not sure how to solve the problem
[06:28] <PureEvilGeek> i'm an administrator account and it says i can't change the permissions:-/
[06:29] <donpedro69> ahoi
[06:29] <dystopianray> PureEvilGeek: you need to use sudo
[06:29] <ArmedKing> dystopianray: K m8 il keep digging tru the mess i created now haha, Tnx for the help anyways
[06:29] <dystopianray> PureEvilGeek: sudo chown
[06:29] <PureEvilGeek> dystopianray: no way with the gui?
[06:29] <genii> PureEvilGeek: sudo chown user:group /the/file
[06:29] <muzik> IP Location: 	 Turkey Turkey Ankara Tt-dns-block
[06:29] <muzik> IP Address: 	<IP_ADDRESS> [Whois]  [Reverse-Ip]  [Ping]  [DNS Lookup]  [Traceroute]
[06:29] <muzik> Blacklist Status: 	Currently Listed (history)
[06:29] <muzik> ooops
[06:29] <muzik> sorry!
[06:29] <dystopianray> PureEvilGeek: not that I know of, you don't usually run gui programs as root
[06:30] <muzik> PureEvilGeek: try sudo nautilus ,then rightclick the file, if ytou mean that
[06:30] <PureEvilGeek> dystopianray: bla lol i want to do everything through the gui and everything for the last day has had to be done through the command prompt
[06:31] <dystopianray> PureEvilGeek: command prompt is faster easier and more secure
[06:31] <dystopianray> PureEvilGeek: only windows admins use a gui
[06:31] <muzik> lol.
[06:31] <PureEvilGeek> dystopianray: imo for me it is certainly not easier or faster. since i might need to change something once in a great while. having to ask how to do it slows things down
[06:32] <PureEvilGeek> this is a desktop computer!
[06:32] <teratoma_> PureEvilGeek: gui is fine, command line is fine... but changing permissions on a folder in unix is just one of those things you should do with command line
[06:32] <muzik> PureEvilGeek: in the long run, command prompt is much more ..customisable, but try suo nautilus and that gives you a admin version of thefile manager
[06:32] <dystopianray> PureEvilGeek: you only need to remember how to use chown, it is very simple
[06:32] <genii> muzik: perhaps gksudo nautilus ?
[06:33] <muzik> somthing like that :D
[06:33] <muzik> i jsut remember having to use it back when i needed the gui
[06:33] <PureEvilGeek> thanks muzik
[06:33] <muzik> :)
[06:33] <CarlFK> how do I cut/paste the text from an Alert dialog?
[06:33] <PureEvilGeek> so you guys don't believe ubuntu is suppose to be crafted to "replace windows desktop OSs" i guess
[06:34] <Shin_Gouki> hello! i want to listen to WEBRADIO only windowsmedia palyer and real are offered, what should i do?
[06:34] <CarlFK> hmm, something did it.  may have been ^c...
[06:34] <muzik> PureEvilGeek: it can, but in many ways its better, aslong as you know how a computer works, not how you tell it to work
[06:35] <PureEvilGeek> 'as long as you know how a computer works' that expression right there kills the idea of replaceing windows desktop OSes
[06:35] <PureEvilGeek> replacing doesn't mean .01% market share:)
[06:36] <muzik> if you have never used windows, linux is fine :D, and thats what i stand by, if you can learn linux, you can learn anything
[06:36] <muzik> should i be worried if i had to isntall it in safe graphics mode [ubuntu 7.04]
[06:37] <PureEvilGeek> muzik: na i had to do the same with mine once. worked fine after words. biggiest issue is not updating your video drivers while on the live cd
[06:38] <muzik> okay
[06:38] <muzik> well as its a command line i hope i can get into that, and update from there
[06:38] <PureEvilGeek> muzik: i want a new world:) one where a linux distro is a compeditor to windows desktops. and zealots can still have there freaky distros that are in the dark ages:) but thats my world:(
[06:38] <muzik> thats a world that all proper linux users want XD
[06:38] <Shin_Gouki> helllo i need help with WEBraido, anyone?
[06:38] <PureEvilGeek> don't update your video drivers while on the live cd is your going to install from that same instance of live cd
[06:39] <scratchy> Hi guys *meows*
[06:39] <muzik> my friend installed ubuntu because she 'liked the desktop' she didnt realse it would wipe her XP, now she hates linux, and i cant change her mind lol
[06:39] <muzik> o.O hi scratchy
[06:39] <scratchy> muzik,
[06:39] <scratchy> people like that dont deserve linux
[06:39] <muzik> O.O
[06:39] <scratchy> hahaha give her XP
[06:39] <muzik> Yeppp
[06:39] <scratchy> or even better GIVE HER A MAC
[06:39] <PureEvilGeek> muzik: outch
[06:39] <muzik> she on 98 now :D
[06:39] <muzik> LOL macs ftl
[06:40] <PureEvilGeek> meh xp would have done the same thing if she had another OS. and saying people "don't deserve linux" is way to elitest for me
[06:40] <PureEvilGeek> its an operation system, a tool nothing more nothing less
[06:40] <cyberphaz> well not for everyone
[06:40] <scratchy> I just explained to yet another 80 year old guy, How to set up wireless on a Mac....I RULE !
[06:40] <scratchy> took me only 12 minutes ...
[06:40] <PureEvilGeek> of course if your a zealot then its gnu/linux and not linux when refering to the OS:)
[06:40] <muzik> its when you want to replace windows mobile 5 with linux, you know that your hooked :D
[06:40] <cyberphaz> for some people linux is their dreams, life and air :P
[06:40] <ArmedKing> muzik: Tell her the wipe is the best thing that ever happend to her. Because now she doesnt have to worrie about getting enoyed the hell out of her when she buys a new pc and gets vista on it. :P:P:P
[06:41] <muzik> i tried, she hit me
[06:41] <Secher> hey guys.. i just updated my gutsy dist, but now my terminal is "gone".. The window is empty when i open it.. Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:41] <ArmedKing> muzik: Take one for the team beib :p
[06:41] <scratchy> So if they dont know how to do it, say the following to your customer .." Have you ever heard of an Apple Macintosh "
[06:41] <muzik> ;]
[06:41] <dystopianray> Secher: #ubuntu+1
[06:41] <erUSUL> !gutsy | Secher
[06:41] <ubotu> Secher: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[06:41] <Secher> i know..
[06:42] <genii> Shin_Gouki: I normally load up the ones for windows mediaplayer directly by adding the URL stream to amarok
[06:42] <Secher> and today there was an update, which i downloaded
[06:42] <PureEvilGeek> 7.10 should be fun when it comes out. safe modes and all. much much closer to a windows replacement
[06:42] <scratchy> I heard that they did alot on Xinerama intergration in he 7.10 version
[06:42] <Secher> and it screwed up my terminal..
[06:42] <dystopianray> Secher: gutsy support only in #ubuntu+1
 ok thx for info, i try that.... im knda VERy new to amarok
[06:42] <ArmedKing> Well i hope the new version is kind to me as in "Supporting my Video Card"
[06:42] <Secher> im using the alpha version because nothing else will run on my laptop
[06:42] <muzik> to be fair, if linux replaces windows i will be sad, you get a certain..feel of ..elitness or like..more understanding using linux
[06:42] <dgjones> Secher, support for gutsy is in #ubuntu+1, they're the ones testing it and most likely to be able to help you
[06:43] <genii> Shin_Gouki: If you give me the site you are trying to see I'll try to find the exact URL you may need
[06:43] <dystopianray> Secher: please go to #ubuntu+1 this is not the gutsy support channel
[06:43] <Secher> oh thanks
[06:43] <PureEvilGeek> muzik: its strange. i hear that all the time from people. honest people at least.
[06:43] <Secher> didnt know of that chan
[06:43] <harmattan> Hey people. When you say 'supporting my video card', do you mean in 3D?
[06:43] <scratchy> Ha, all windows needs is another HUGE slip like Vista
[06:43] <PureEvilGeek> muzik: at least you are willing to admit that is a reason you don't want it to happen:)
[06:43] <dystopianray> harmattan: what video card do you have?
[06:43] <ArmedKing> Yes thats what i mean
[06:43] <PureEvilGeek> harmattan: they mean stuff showing up on the screen
[06:43] <ArmedKing> I one of the few who has an unsuported nvidia card
[06:44] <scratchy> harmattan: lspci
[06:44] <Shin_Gouki> genii, http://www1.n-joy.de/pages_special/0,,SPM7388_CONnjoy_TYPreal_LOCint,00.html this one
[06:44] <muzik> lol PureEvilGeek, well it is jsut that, i want it to, but at the same time, we loose the err..expertise we get over end users, and then we have to get anoher server for just support.
[06:44] <genii> Shin_Gouki: OK, give me a minute then
[06:44] <PureEvilGeek> muzik: i'm waiting for virtual applications to take over making what OS you run not matter nearly as much. go to the store, pick up your favorate X program, install it. won't matter if you are running ubuntu 9.02 or windows vista sp10
[06:44] <harmattan> Thanks. I wasn't sure if the problem was with support in general or only with the proprietary driver for doin 3D. I suppose VESA works always.
[06:44] <SuperLag> savetheWorld: you still around?
[06:44] <astra-1> Has anyone had any luck with setting up prism 2.5 wavelan chipset in kubuntu 7.04?
[06:45] <astra-1> Any help configuring knetwork with the prism 2.5 or any utilities or commands would be helpful
[06:45] <PureEvilGeek> I like vista. a little ram hungry but there is nothing else out there that compares to its end user capabilities
[06:45] <szeraax> can anyone here help me out? When i try to 'make' in a folder, all the contents get deleted. i read somewhere to do 'make V=1' and i get this http://pastebin.com/m7e37afba any help? I thank you for your time
[06:45] <muzik> okay, i am fully booted into Ubunut7.04, with 2 screens, 1 cloning the other, how can i change that to a dualscreeen desktop
[06:45] <ikma> i haven't been able to start X without failsafe for a few weeks now. what steps should i take to resolve the problem?
[06:46] <SuperLag> PureEvilGeek: you're stoned.