[06:18] <ubotu> Warini: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:18] <IdleOne> Vimto: in nero when you have the .iso you need to select Burn Data Disk and make sure it is bootable . it is in the options poke around you will find it
[06:18] <Vimto> MasterShrek im burning using bootable data disc
[06:18] <IdleOne> Vimto: that is it
[06:18] <Flannel> demon_spork: ctrl-alt-f2 will get you the TTY with the system info.  But that takes a smidge to get going.  Why don't you want to remove it?
[06:19] <lee__> Vimto, waht version of Nero do you have?
[06:19] <IdleOne> Vimto: wait sorry you need to burn as a bootable image not data disk
[06:20] <lee__> YES Vimto that is is the million dollar answer
[06:20] <Vimto> lol
[06:20] <demon_spork> FLannel, I just wanted a way to look at the info just when I feel like it, without having to edit the boot options
[06:20] <lee__> taht vimto is the right question with the right answer
[06:20] <rahul_> mastersherk can u remote assistance it would be lot ezzier
[06:20] <Vimto> alright i will try to find bootable image
[06:20] <AJ--> after several rebooting still my sound wnt work..pls anyone help my probs :((
[06:20] <Flannel> demon_spork: well, you can edit the boot options temporarily from the GRUB menu too.
[06:20] <MeRodent> demon_spork, why not just check the logs?
[06:21] <lee__> there in your browsers window has a link to ubuntu..or google it
[06:21] <Warini> ubotu: I know what LAMP is,I didn't install ubuntu LAMP because it installs php5 and i need php4
[06:21] <IdleOne> Warini: problem is that php4 is not in fiesty
[06:21] <lee__> oh vimto..dont download a torent
[06:21] <MeRodent> Warini, from memory the LAMP instructions tell you how to install php4 as an option.
[06:21] <Warini> fiesty????
[06:21] <Vimto> IdleOne there's no bootable image!
[06:21] <Flannel> What version of ubuntu are you using?
[06:21] <Warini> oooooo ok
[06:21] <Warini> sorry 6.06
[06:22] <IdleOne> lol
[06:22] <AJ--> Warini: if u want php4 to work. download the sound manualy coz fiesty dont have that in the repo
[06:22] <ddonky> anyone know why gaim isnt connecting to MSN?
[06:22] <lee__> vimto that is because its placed in a temp firle and is then later delted..you want to do save as
[06:22] <demon_spork> MeRodent, I am not looking for a problem, I just want to see the info if I feel like it, in Suse you can press f2 to remove the loading splash and see the stuff scrolling past
[06:22] <Warini> yes i know i'm using 6.06 because 7.04 doesn't support php4
[06:22] <mckensey> anybody can help me ?
[06:22] <Flannel> Warini: You don't use /usr/local then, since you'll do it entirely through package managemnt.  Follow the instructions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:22] <demon_spork> or some keybind
[06:22] <IdleOne> Warini: try this apt-cache search php4 in a terminal see what results it gives you
[06:22] <mckensey> I have a problem with the amsn
[06:22] <Flannel> Warini: Just when it says do do stuff with php5, use the corresponding php4 package.
[06:22] <Vimto> well
WHERE DID U GO?????
[06:23] <Warini> don't worry i installed it
[06:23] <Vimto> i think im lost
[06:23] <MasterShrek> rahul_, join #mastershrek
[06:23] <Vimto> is there any software that helps?
[06:24] <Warini> also i'm working remote from OS X because the ubuntu computer is in sever mode no GUI
[06:24] <Warini> ssh :)
[06:24] <Warini> OK thanks
[06:24] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, ever tried to use a prefetching type app in ubuntu?
[06:24] <AJ--> does ubuntu have an issue with this sound card --->VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT]
[06:24] <ddonky> does pidgin connect to msn?
[06:24] <Warini> all working now
[06:24] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, not really
[06:25] <choke> heguru, are you there?
[06:25] <graelb> Hi!
[06:25] <lee__> Masterschrech, I really need to start thinking that some people just don't know stuff like isos an os an such
[06:25] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, ts a good idea, but seems not to be very well developed
[06:25] <Warini> the problem was i didn't know if php should be on usr/local/bin or usr/bin, but now is in usr/bin and working
[06:25] <graelb> Does anyone know how to delete saved sessions in xfce?
[06:25] <Vimto> IdleOne do you know something about infra recorder?
[06:25] <Coded1> how do i find out whats using my "YY2 video port" ?
[06:25] <Flannel> Warini: You should install it through package management.
[06:25] <AJ--> does ubuntu have an issue with this sound card --->VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT]  ?????
[06:25] <Warini> i installed with apt-get install
[06:26] <MasterShrek> ic Evanlec, its like preloading a program right?
[06:26] <lee__> not sure
[06:26] <m1r> ok, i tryed reinstall grub but error 17 again :/
[06:26] <Vimto> i think im done
[06:26] <lee__> erg...I have an unbuntu ..issue..called..dog licking me hes interfeering lol
[06:27] <choke> i need help here with my audio card
[06:27] <Warini> THANKS a lot guys
[06:27] <Vimto> im burning the way you told me
[06:27] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, right, and also preloading programs at boot-time
[06:27] <choke> the song is playing but i cant hear
[06:27] <MeRodent> m1r, are you running livecd?
[06:27] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, i would love that for firefox lol
[06:27] <Coded1> all i have running is a few FireFoxes, eclipse, kopete and bluefish no 3d acceleration
[06:27] <Vimto> anybody knows if i can install adobe photoshop on linux?
[06:27] <m1r> MeRodent, yes
[06:27] <lee__> choke, do a google search on unbuntu and your audio card and see waht comes up
[06:27] <mindrape> Vimto - yes with Wine.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> choke,  and what audio card is this. ? is this a laptop?
[06:27] <Coded1> ati video card (Rage 128 pro)
[06:28] <Vimto> great!
[06:28] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, exactly what i was thinking
[06:28] <Vimto> mindrape i have windows version is that okay?
[06:28] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, i defiitely use firefox the most of any app
[06:28] <mindrape> !wine | vimto
[06:28] <ubotu> vimto: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[06:28] <MasterShrek> me too Evanlec and xchat
[06:28] <MeRodent> m1r, run gparted and check which partition is your / partition
[06:28] <AJ--> dang cant get my sound working plsss help
[06:28] <m1r> MeRodent: ok sec to boot up
[06:28] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, yep, tho xchat starts pretty damn quick anyway
[06:28] <lee__> ubotu, seesm to have qutie the database
[06:29] <Vimto> wow great info!! thanks mindrape
[06:29] <mindrape> AJ-- type dmesg and see if its even detected.
[06:29] <usr13> AJ--, What seems to be the problem?
[06:29] <MasterShrek> tru.dat Evanlec
[06:29] <mindrape> AJ-- type lspci and see if its listed there also...
[06:29] <Madpilot> lee__, the bot is the most intelligent user of this channel, bar none. :)
[06:29] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, my wine takes like 5-10 minutes to start every time, its a pain in the arse, i forget all about trying to start a wine program before it opens lol
[06:29] <usr13> AJ--, Do as mindrape says.
[06:29] <mindrape> AJ-- finally you can try lsmod to see if any modules have attempted to be loaded to get you sound
[06:29] <AJ--> mindrape: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT]    <<----this is my sound card
[06:29] <lee__> mapilot I have to agree lol
[06:30] <Vimto> what version do you recommend guys?
[06:30] <mindrape> AJ-- is lsmod doesnt show any drivers then google and find the driver name... then modprobe DRIVERNAMEYOUFIND
[06:30] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, wine is always slow, i think thats cuz its wine...
[06:30] <lee__> say how would linux fair in in  running artificial intellegence programs and robtics and cybernetics?
[06:30] <Vimto> 6.06.1 or the 7.04?
[06:30] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, but never this slow
[06:30] <mindrape> AJ-- you may have sound enabled but just turned way down... I recommend the package aumix to check it...
[06:30] <MasterShrek> lee__, probably better than anything else
[06:30] <MasterShrek> Vimto, 7.04
[06:31] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, im gonna try it out, you might also: 'sudo apt-get install preload'
[06:31] <MasterShrek> ill take a look Evanlec...
[06:31] <Evanlec> cool
[06:31] <lee__> well then MasterShreck there is a new project then for some wih tthe money lol
[06:31] <Vimto> MasterShrek how can i ensure the security?
[06:31] <AJ--> mindrape: it was working last night but wen i start my pc this morning sound is gone.. and that happens everyday..
[06:31] <MasterShrek> Vimto, security of what?
[06:31] <usr13> AJ--, See:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/105518
ok im back
[06:31] <Vimto> of my computer? =P
[06:32] <lee__> oh tahts the beauty of linux vimtu
[06:32] <Ahadiel> Vimto, You can disconnect from the interwebs :3
[06:32] <Vimto> lol why! ;p
[06:32] <lee__> and dont surf inaprorpriate sights vimtu
[06:32] <Ahadiel> Vimto, To secure your computer as you said >_>
[06:32] <linoleum> Hello, How can I activate Dmix in ubuntu ? because when I try to use Jackd and play music , it doesn work, I think it's because HW0 is already in use. I need to use Dmix but I dont know how to install it
[06:32] <Vimto> =(
[06:32] <m1r> MeRodent: i am on gparted
[06:33] <Vimto> thats very bad news:P
WHERE DID U GO
[06:33] <cottagechz> I am trying to install grub from knoppix, but I cannot add deps to knoppix to compile grub, anyone?
[06:33] <MeRodent> m1r, what partition does your boot partition show as...   /   ext3
[06:33] <lee__> vimtu if you want real security go off the grid
[06:33] <Dr_willis> cottagechz,  compile grub? huh?
[06:33] <kahrytan>  How do i turn off the automatic logging in xchat? and don't tell me to goto preferences. the log checkbox is not checked
[06:34] <cottagechz> well I mean run configure
[06:34] <gogeta> cottagechz thers a grub live cd you can use
[06:34] <Vimto> okay!
[06:34] <Warini> guys were is the mysql config file, need to know the port
[06:34] <gogeta> cottagechz to reinstall/fix grub
[06:34] <Dr_willis> cottagechz,  if you have an installed system - you can boot a live cd, chroot over to the installed system (mount it  and proc and /dev properly) and rerun update-grub
[06:34] <gogeta> cottagechz or even remove
[06:34] <m1r> MeRodent , i have grub on windows partition
[06:34] <mindrape> 3306 = mysql port
WHERE DID MasterShrek GO????
[06:35] <cottagechz> will it let me edit the mbr so I can boot?  my boot partition is windows.
[06:35] <MasterShrek> on phone hang on.....
[06:35] <Warini> thanks
[06:35] <rahul__> OK
[06:35] <choke> Dr_willis, the audio card is abit fatal1ty
[06:35] <mindrape> Warini - if you want to know what process is using which TCP/IP port you can type       sudo netstat -tulp
[06:35] <gogeta> cottagechz the grub live cd yes
[06:35] <choke> Dr_willis, its a computer not a laptop
[06:35] <Evanlec> rahul__, i dotn know! but change your nick for heavens sake
[06:35] <rahul__> Y
[06:35] <Dr_willis> choke,  id have to say google for that card and what chipset its using.
[06:35] <rahul__> I LIKE MY NAME
[06:35] <rahul__> IT'S COOLLLL
[06:35] <graelb> wait... did he just say it's a computer, not a laptop?
[06:35] <Flannel> !caps | rahul__
[06:35] <ubotu> rahul__: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:36] <gogeta> cottagechz it can even fit on a floppy disk id need be if you cant burn
[06:36] <MeRodent> m1r, we're looking for the linux root partion..  Mountpoint should be /   what we want is the Partition name ie: /dev/sda2
[06:36] <cottagechz> no floppys here. not even native cdrom :(  good thing I can boot off usb
[06:36] <rahul__> shout aaaa
[06:36] <m1r> MeRodent , /dev/hda7
[06:36] <mindrape> graelb - Unless it is a mainframe I dont consider it a computer...
[06:36] <gogeta> cottagechz no cd rom?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210820 is a good thread on repairing grub. Its a little disorganized however.
[06:37] <m1r> merodent , dev/hda6 is boot partition
[06:37] <cottagechz> so wait can I use the ubuntu cd for grub install?
[06:37] <mindrape> graelb - I am using a basic electronic input/output device right now...
[06:37] <Flannel> cottagechz: yep
[06:37] <gogeta> cottagechz yes
[06:37] <cottagechz> gogeta xplore ix104c2 is my comp
[06:37] <m1r> merodent , it seems i have two boot partitions
[06:37] <MeRodent> m1r, do you have any other hard drives?
[06:37] <m1r> one hard drive, several partitions
[06:37] <MeRodent> m1r, did you install twice?
[06:37] <graelb> mindrape: ...that was sarcasm, right?
[06:37] <m1r> seems so
[06:37] <mindrape> yes.  :)
[06:37] <graelb> hehe
[06:37] <graelb> i figured
[06:38] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, so what do u think? seems pretty straightforward, but not much documentation for it...
[06:38] <gogeta> cottagechz i think you can run grub install and grub update right off the live cd
[06:38] <jonshepher2> Hello again. Still havne't gotten my wireless card up. I give up for tonight. In fact I don't know whats wrong. I have the "windows wireless drivers tab in Admistration but it opens and closes all in the same time. Me next problem is that I currently have no internet connection on that machine because even my wired connection is acting up. Does anyone know where I can get the Software/ codecs I need to play Mpegs, avi, and mp3s?
[06:38] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, what do i do? just run it?
[06:38] <cottagechz> ok I will try knoppix wont let me run it.  thx
[06:38] <Flannel> !grub | cottagechz, first link will give you all sorts of options
[06:38] <ubotu> cottagechz, first link will give you all sorts of options: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:38] <MasterShrek> rahul_, whats your problem now?
[06:38] <mindrape> jonshepher2 - I recommend you sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:38] <Dr_willis> cottagechz,  yes. You boot a live cd. and chroot over.  that url site mentioned how you need to set up (mount /proc and /dev also) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210820 if you want to learn whats going on.
[06:38] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, itsa a daemon,so after doing apt-get, u got "preload started" output?
[06:38] <MeRodent> m1r, just so you know grub will see the drives as (hd0,6) and (hd0,5)
[06:38] <MasterShrek> jonshepher2, what kind of wireless card do you have?
[06:38] <m1r> merodent , dev/hda1 and hda5 are windwos partitions , hda6 is /boot hda7 is / and hda8 is swap
[06:38] <rahul__> dual boot i can figgure out y it aint doin it
[06:38] <Madpilot> ubotu, mp3 | jonshepher2
[06:38] <ubotu> jonshepher2: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:38] <MasterShrek> i dunno Evanlec, but i did start it
[06:39] <MasterShrek> rahul_, can you boot linux just fine?
[06:39] <Flannel> !aptoncd | jonshepher2
[06:39] <jonshepher2> Well it's the dell 1390
[06:39] <ubotu> jonshepher2: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[06:39] <graelb> I'm curious as to what you guys do during the day that puts money in your pocket. I always see a million people in here who seem like your only funtion is to help people (which is awesome by the way,) but i'm curious as to what you all do to feed yourselves
[06:39] <rahul__> im on it as we speack
[06:39] <MeRodent> m1r, so hopefully this should work.  start a terminal and type in grub
[06:39] <mindrape> graelb - I just idle here 24/7... I work as a security guy for a couple of banks.
[06:39] <Frostex> Hi there, is there anybody here that can help me fix my drive configuration. i am on knoppix live, it will not let me mount one of my drives
[06:39] <graelb> cool! how's that pay?
[06:39] <Evanlec> graelb, good question lol
[06:39] <m1r> MeRodent: done
[06:39] <jonshepher2> guys ,I am using Windows on this machine
[06:39] <MasterShrek> rahul_, you just need to add an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:39] <mindrape> graelb - more than 100k.  :)
[06:39] <gogeta> !windows
[06:39] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:40] <MasterShrek> !dualboot | rahul_
[06:40] <ubotu> rahul_: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[06:40] <graelb> schwing!
[06:40] <rahul__> well i did u wan tot cheack it out
[06:40] <MasterShrek> rahul_, follow that link and it will tell you what to add
[06:40] <Evanlec> mindrape, not bad lol
[06:40] <MeRodent> m1r, at the grub prompt type in  > root (hd0,6)
[06:40] <Frostex> Hi there, is there anybody here that can help me fix my drive configuration. i am on knoppix live, it will not let me mount one of my drives
[06:40] <mindrape> graelb - I'm actually thinking of switching and going to a Linux focus... there is an opening on this team.  It would pay only 95k but I wouldn't have to deal with other crap like Windows environments and some of the other aspects of security I loathe...
[06:40] <lee__> hmm a nother light jsut came on..free softwres not effected by stock market crashing
[06:41] <m1r> MeRodent: done
[06:41] <jonshepher2> So I guess my question is this. How do I download this software on this Windows box and then copy and install it on my Better box?'
[06:41] <MasterShrek> rahul_, pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l    and ill be able to help you much better
[06:41] <gogeta> 95k ill take it
[06:41] <MeRodent> type in > setup (hd0)
[06:41] <riotkittie> i myself am a pirate. i sail the seven seas with my laptop in tow, and answer the occasional question while not conversing with my parrot or reaping the spoils of my piratey type doings.
[06:41] <graelb> Yeah, well... if it makes you have a better day, then do it. Money really shouldn't be the deciding factor in that one
[06:41] <graelb> you'd be doing what you want to do over what you only kind of want to do
[06:41] <Evanlec> I'll take 95k ANYDAY
[06:41] <Evanlec> lol
[06:41] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  heh - i was thinking that also.. :)
 i cant it says it's too big
[06:41] <riotkittie> "only" 95? arrr.
[06:41] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  but i bet he has to actually THINK...
[06:41] <Dr_willis> :P
[06:41] <mindrape> yeah... money, the people I work with, the overall stress of the job, and travel are the primary factors I consider.  I could make 150 right now but travel 99% of the time... not interested.
[06:41] <rahul__> can u remote acess it
[06:42] <MasterShrek> !paste | rahul_
[06:42] <ubotu> rahul_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:42] <gogeta> wilis minuam wage geek hear
[06:42] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  I was on Strike Today.. :) strikes over.. Factory worker here.
[06:42] <MasterShrek> rahul_, its still not letting me connect
[06:42] <Flannel> Guys, take the chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[06:42] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  'would you like to supersize that glutton bucker sir?'
[06:42] <lee__> is ruahl on the cd rom?
[06:43] <gogeta> hehe
[06:43] <AJ--> mindrape: does my onboard inter sound card interupt my pci sound card????
[06:43] <gogeta> i dont do that anymore thank god
 my ip changed
[06:43] <mindrape> AJ-- it very well may... did you read https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/105518 that somebody pasted earlier?
[06:43] <Evanlec> AJ--, disable your onboard soundcard in bios
[06:43] <AJ--> im looking at it now
[06:44] <m1r> MeRodent: i get error 15
[06:44] <lee__> Mastershreck could it be his router settings?
[06:44] <jeff1212> what is the code to use to wipe the hdd dry of any recoverable data?
my ip changed
[06:44] <MeRodent> m1r, try > root (hd0,5)
[06:44] <MasterShrek> rahul_, im in
[06:44] <rahul__> i got it up for u on a private message
[06:44] <rahul__> ok
[06:44] <rahul__> can u c my grub
[06:44] <MeRodent> m1r, then > setup (hd0)
[06:44] <Frostex> Hi there, is there anybody that can help with my HDD configuration. it wont let me access my files, i am using a knoppix live CD
 can u c my grub
[06:45] <m1r> merodent it passed on 0.5
[06:45] <graelb> Well, you guys have a good night, i need to die for the night
[06:45] <lee__> grrr this isnt a knoppix sight
[06:45] <mindrape> Frostex - did you mount your /dev/XXXX as read/write?
[06:45] <mindrape> Frostex - also, are you logged in as root?
[06:45] <jonshepher2> I guess once again, no can help me with my problem here
[06:45] <gogeta> lee they seem to think so
[06:45] <m1r> merodent , reboot ?
[06:45] <graelb> exit
[06:45] <lee__> I have a kneopix cd though and i understand where you are coming form
[06:45] <graelb> ...
[06:45] <MeRodent> m1r, in that case you should be able to type > quit     then reboot.
[06:45] <allam> i want to act as aroot
[06:45] <AJ--> Evanlec: ill try that
[06:45] <mindrape> sudo | allam
[06:45] <m1r> MeRodent: ok i go reboot
[06:45] <IdleOne> Frostex: try asking in #knoppix they will be able to help you more
[06:45] <MasterShrek> rahul__, reboot and try it
[06:45] <jeff1212> does anyone know a code to type in the terminal to wipe the hdd clean of any recoverable data ?
[06:45] <gogeta> lee isnt there a channel called koneopix
[06:46] <rahul__> should xp work then
[06:46] <mindrape> !sudo | allam
[06:46] <ubotu> allam: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:46] <gogeta> lol
[06:46] <MasterShrek> rahul__, it should
[06:46] <Flannel> jeff1212: check out shred
 will xp work
[06:46] <lee__> oh taht reminds me
[06:46] <rahul__> ok ill try
[06:46] <Dr_willis> jeff1212,  dozens of ways to do it - Depending on EXACTLY what you are wanting to do.
[06:46] <mindrape> jeff1212 - there are a few ways...
[06:46] <mindrape> doh, sorry for repeat
[06:46] <Frostex> well the problem roots from windows, when i plugged my old HD into new computer it would tell me i needed to format the drive to acess the files. i was reccomend knoppix live CD to recover the data. all other drives are automatically detected and everything, but this says that i cannot mount it
[06:46] <soundblaster> i have a sound blaster audigy 5.1 ship creative and i cant play music
[06:47] <jeff1212> Dr_willis:  meet me in room #jeff1212 ill tell u there
[06:47] <lee__> erg
[06:47] <soundblaster> the song is running but i cant hear
[06:47] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  odd. My augigy cards always work great.
[06:47] <IdleOne> !sound | soundblaster
[06:47] <ubotu> soundblaster: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:47] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  this isent a X-Fi card is it?
[06:47] <mindrape> Frostex - if you want to recover Windows data I recommend you pop the Windows drive out of the computer (even if its been formatted) and pop it in another computer.  On the "fresh" computer with Windows I recommend you go to www.runtime.org and get their recovery software. Its easy to use and does a great job of recovery.  Linux recovery disks only get you in if you lost admin passwords and whatnot.
[06:47] <Flannel> jeff1212: shred is the best way.  man shred for details.  Pretty much pass it a path, the defaults are... 26 itrations, you that's configurable though.
[06:48] <soundblaster> Dr_willis, its a old card 5.1
[06:48] <lee__> the bot wisperd to me and said is wanst intellegent
[06:48] <gogeta> lee and was it wrong i dont beleve so :)
[06:48] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  Thats weird. You got an onboard sound as well?  You  Using the Digital out for sound?
[06:48] <m1r> MeRodent: i got to : grub>
[06:48] <mindrape> Frostex - Linux cd's like Knoppix are not intended to recover data from formatted/damaged Windows partitions...
[06:49] <lee__> no it just told me not to call it intellegent lol
[06:49] <soundblaster> Dr_willis, yes
[06:49] <lee__> its a rahter humble bot
[06:49] <jeff1212> Flannel:  u meet me in room #jeff1212 i need to ask u if it will get rid of something and not wana say in here
[06:49] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  you might want to be more verbose. :) I rember ages ago i had to use the alsamixergui  (i think) to check a box to  enable the digital out to actually work for my system
[06:49] <Flannel> jeff1212: It gets rid of everything.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  i havent had to do that in ages.. but it might be worth looking into. it sounds likje the card is working.. its just a mixer/volume issue.
[06:50] <m1r> MeRodent: i keeps returning me to : grub> , on boot
[06:50] <riotkittie> ugh.
[06:50] <gogeta> m1r winhell?
[06:50] <CreativeSoul> hey is there anyone who could help me out with broadcom aircrack support?
[06:50] <m1r> gogeta , dual boot yes
[06:51] <Kyokuz> is 7.04 called feisty?
[06:51] <gogeta> m1r single drive?
[06:51] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  the alsamixer program  is a console based mixer i tend to use.
[06:51] <Frostex> thanks mindrape, what do you reccomend i should do to recover it? all the files are still there, there was absolutly no change made to the disks, but when i unplugged from one windows machine and plugged into another it tells me i need to format. how can i avoid formatting it to recover my data
[06:51] <riotkittie> Kyokuz: yes
[06:51] <m1r> gogeta yes
[06:51] <MasterShrek> Kyokuz, yes
[06:51] <Kyokuz> ty
[06:51] <lee__> Ok its 10 o clock here and I aint taking this broeder to nicely
[06:51] <gogeta> m1r then its 0,0
[06:51] <lee__> brb
[06:51] <m1r> ah
[06:51] <gogeta> m1r not 0,1
[06:51] <soundblaster> everythins seems correct
[06:51] <soundblaster> all connections 100%
[06:51] <gogeta> m1r i made same mastake
[06:51] <soundblaster> but i just cant hear the song
[06:52] <m1r> gogeta
[06:52] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  use alsamixer and scrollover to the right off the screen.. :) you are describing the issues i had  a few yrs back.
[06:52] <m1r> gogeta , error 17 , cannot mount selected partition
[06:52] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  as a text you could try hookingup speakers to the normal outputs. not using the digital out.
[06:52] <jazz_> can someone help me
[06:52] <gogeta> m1r you said grub
[06:52] <MasterShrek> !ask
[06:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:52] <m1r> gogeta yes
[06:52] <gogeta> m1r on the menu list
[06:53] <soundblaster> no song and the master is at 100
[06:53] <gogeta> m1r root (hda 0,0)
[06:53] <gogeta> or however its formated
[06:53] <MasterShrek> (hd0,0)
[06:53] <gogeta> m1r it will worki promis
[06:53] <MasterShrek> rahul_, did it work?
WHAT IN THE WORLD DI DDO
[06:53] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  im not refering to the 'master' volume..  i am refering to the " Item: Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack        "  toggle. if its not set right. You get no output to the digital out even if the volumes are up
[06:53] <rahul_> YEAH IT WORKED EXCEPT THEIR R NO DRIVERS
[06:53] <jazz_> hey, i kinda screwed up my mbr, i know this is ubuntu but i think some one here knows slackware, i use lilo in my mbr, how would i get rid of it?
[06:53] <Flannel> !enter | rahul_
[06:53] <ubotu> rahul_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:53] <MasterShrek> rahul_?
[06:54] <MasterShrek> weird rahul_, no drivers in windows?
[06:54] <chreamcls> hey jazz we are having the same kind of fun!
[06:54] <rahul_> no drivers like
[06:54] <rahul_> i know like wtf
[06:54] <m1r> gogoeta, nothing
[06:54] <rahul_> no internet driver so i cant search for anyother
[06:54] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  its the '33rd' mixer/controll to the right, in the alsamixer program on my Audigy card.
[06:54] <jazz_> lol
[06:54] <rahul_> any ideas' <MasterShrek>
[06:54] <gogeta> m1r when you boot grub you will be able to boot windowz
[06:54] <Dr_willis> Egads those cards got a lot of things on them. :)
[06:54] <MasterShrek> hmm, rahul_ u said u have a flash drive?
[06:54] <m1r> gogeta , nothing happens, error 17 on setup hd0 and error 23 on root (hda0,0
[06:54] <rahul_> yeah i do
[06:54] <gogeta> outcy
[06:55] <MasterShrek> m1r, its (hd0,0)
[06:55] <gogeta> you got the chainload +1 right
[06:55] <m1r> yes MasterShrek
[06:55] <jazz_> hey chreamcls, what did u do?
[06:55] <MasterShrek> rahul_, download the driver and put it on that, then reboot into windows and install it
 im alredy looking for them but thier aint any drivers for this computer for xp
[06:55] <MasterShrek> yes its in there gogeta
[06:55] <Frostex> what is the knoppix or windows IRC channel??
[06:55] <rahul_> wtf
[06:55] <soundblaster> how can i run alsamixer program?
[06:55] <bintut> i just found out that the interface names are named as eth2 and eth3.. is there a way to change it permanently maybe eth0 for the wired and wlan0 for the wifi?
[06:55] <m1r> mastershrek , gogeta , but i cant do : setup (hd0) after
[06:55] <jazz_> does anyone know how to fix the mbr?
[06:55] <gogeta> system sound boot
[06:55] <MasterShrek> rahul_, there should be
[06:55] <gogeta> lol did you save
[06:55] <lee__> its automatic
[06:55] <soundblaster> Mr_Willis
[06:55] <m0m> have you done the grub_update m1r?
[06:55] <rahul_> noo their aint this is pissing me off
[06:55] <MasterShrek> gogeta, yes
[06:56] <m1r> m0m no
[06:56] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  #1 install it.. #2 enter its name in the terminal. :)
[06:56] <m0m> do it m1r
[06:56] <gogeta> LOL
[06:56] <MasterShrek> rahul_, the drivers were installed before?
 how could a computer now have any drivers for xp when it's made by dell
[06:56] <soundblaster> appears a grafic
[06:56] <Dr_willis> !info alsamixer
[06:56] <ubotu> Package alsamixer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:56] <MeRodent> m1r, setup will only do that for linux partition.
[06:56] <MasterShrek> rahul_, dell.com should have drivers
[06:56] <soundblaster> but i dont understand what you talking about
[06:56] <soundblaster> :\
[06:56] <xjkx> what would you recommend me to burn isos and blank cds other than gnomebaker?
[06:56] <rahul_> im alredy on that but they dont
[06:56] <MasterShrek> xjkx, k3b
[06:56] <rahul_> wow no sound driver no internet driver
[06:56] <m1r> m0m , error27 unrecongnized command
[06:56] <rahul_> how fucking gay
[06:56] <gogeta> m1r !pastbin
[06:56] <MasterShrek> !ohmy
[06:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:56] <riotkittie> sweet. two of my partitions overlap. i should remedy that, i guess.
[06:56] <mindrape> rahul - this is a family channel... keep it clean
[06:57] <rahul_> sorry
[06:57] <Dr_willis> !find   alsamixer
[06:57] <ubotu> Found: alsamixergui, gnome-alsamixer
[06:57] <xjkx> MasterShrek, kdelibs do not exist to me
[06:57] <AJ--> ok the helps.. tnx a lot guys... my sound workds after disabling the onboard sound at bios
[06:57] <rahul_> just little agry
[06:57] <gogeta> m1r toss it up on pastbin
[06:57] <riotkittie> internet driver?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  its in the alsamisergui package
[06:57] <gogeta> m1r see whats up hear
[06:57] <m1r> gogeta , how can i pastebin from grub ?!?!
[06:57] <lee__> I have a del dinison 51 50 it came with media center..they sent me disks for reloading that machine it included the drivers
[06:57] <MasterShrek> xjkx, add extra repos, universe and multiverse?
[06:57] <rahul_> MasterShrek> what did u change on my grub by the way i very curious
[06:57] <lee__> itwas a pack of 6cds
[06:57] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  'sudo apt-get install  alsamicergui' , run 'alsamixer'
[06:57] <xjkx> MasterShrek, no, i mean i excluded it from my world
[06:57] <MeRodent> m1r, can you run > find /boot/grub/stage1    from the grub prompt?
[06:58] <gogeta> m1r your using the gui right yea copy past the menu.list
[06:58] <MasterShrek> rahul_, the last few lines, for the windows options
[06:58] <Dr_willis> dang it i spelt it wrong. :)
[06:58] <soundblaster> Dr_willis, ok
[06:58] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  'sudo apt-get install  alsamixergui' , run 'alsamixer'
[06:58] <rahul_> what did u change em to
[06:58] <MasterShrek> xjkx, well then u cant install k3b, it is about the best out there tho
[06:58] <gogeta> m1r linux is still working right
[06:58] <m1r> merodent , no
[06:58] <jonshepher2> Anyone know where I can codecs without using the Package manager? I.E. The net?
[06:58] <m1r> gogeta, that is other pc
[06:58] <gogeta> m1r being your edting it
[06:58] <m0m> update-grub m1r
[06:58] <Chustar> hello
[06:58] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  then arrow over to the right 23 times or so. Looking for the 'digital out' toggle.
[06:58] <gogeta> m1r well no wonder why
[06:59] <gogeta> m1r boot linux on te one that whont boot windows
[06:59] <rahul_> title=winrootnoverify (hd0,1)makeactivechainloader +1
[06:59] <m1r> gogeta, that is other pc grub is error
[06:59] <m1r> gogeta, laptop, cant put other HD
 tell me what did u changed plz so i know what i missed
[06:59] <lee__> hmm would a dual boot work with seperate drives?
[06:59] <gogeta> m1r  what
[06:59] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  its the 32'd item on my Audigy2Zs card. to the rgight on the alsamixer progrram.
[06:59] <rahul_> yeah lee__
[06:59] <m1r> merodent, find /boot/grub/stage1 found hd0,5
[06:59] <gogeta> m1r you said dule boot error not grub crash
[06:59] <MasterShrek> rahul_, i just pretty much copied the 'dummy' windows entry in that file, and put it at the bottom of the file
[06:59] <lee__> hmmm
[07:00] <rahul_> i got 2 hdd and they both have xp and linux on to diffrent hdd
[07:00] <m1r> gogeta srys
[07:00] <gogeta> !grub
[07:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:00] <rahul_> i had it like that
[07:00] <MasterShrek> rahul_, it was way messed up compared to that
[07:00] <razer> Hey why can't I run at higher than 1024x748 with a geforce2 and nvidia driver in ubuntu?
[07:00] <rahul_> i c but wait the last part title=winrootnoverify (hd0,1)makeactive chainloader +1
[07:00] <rahul_> wasnt that right
[07:00] <Kyokuz> i am trying to do a manual bootstrap and i can't get apt-cdrom add to work, the cd seems locked, i can't eject it... any ideas?
[07:01] <hhp2k> razer: Your xorg.conf file might not have the correct monitor sync ranges in it.
[07:01] <lee__> hiow about making a bootable sd card ?
[07:01] <hhp2k> razer: did you configure that properly?
[07:01] <rahul_> that sucks <Kyokuz>
[07:01] <Kyokuz> yeah it sucks big time
[07:01] <rahul_> lee__ y would u do tah t
[07:01] <razer> hhp2k: It is enabled.
[07:01] <Kyokuz> trying to get dmraid working, it's a nightmare
[07:01] <gogeta> you guys use slow usb drives lol
[07:01] <Kyokuz> so is there a way to get the cd ejected?
[07:02] <gogeta> sd card even more leet
[07:02] <gogeta> lol
[07:02] <MeRodent> m1r, so the linux boot partition is (hd0.5)
[07:02] <m1r> merodent , it passed on hd0,5
[07:02] <rahul_> ok so no internet driver how in the world do i get the rest of the drivers
[07:02] <razer> hhp2k: And the windows still can't cache fast enough.
 got another problem for u
[07:02] <m1r> merodent, but i type exit, it says unrecognized command
[07:02] <MasterShrek> whats that rahul_ ?
[07:02] <rahul_> i have a tv tunner i jus tbouth it 2 days a go and it does not work w/ linux
[07:02] <hhp2k> razer: Enabled has nothing to do with it really =) reconfigure your xorg.conf with the correct sync ranges for your monitor by selecting the "advanced" option when it asks for details about your monitor. Find the sync ranges in your monitor's manual or look it up online.
[07:02] <MeRodent> m1r, that means it should be > root (hd0,5)       > setup (hd0)     > quit
[07:02] <MasterShrek> i dont know much about them rahul_
[07:03] <rahul_> i c
[07:03] <Dr_willis> night all..
[07:03] <_aaa> Have a toshiba PDA, is it possible to sync with a Linux OS?
u got an IM
[07:03] <hhp2k> razer: If you need help finding the sync range, tell me your monitor's make and model and I'll attempt to find it for you.
[07:03] <lee__> rahul , i have some video software that i am working with..and...dont have any save for windows
[07:03] <m1r> merodent, it wont accept quit/exit/done/whatever to end
[07:03] <razer> hhp2k: I can't use the ubuntu settings?
[07:04] <MeRodent> m1r, hang 5.
[07:04] <m1r> tnx
[07:04] <MasterShrek> rahul_, is your nick registered? u cant pm unless it is
 wat do u mean
[07:04] <razer> hhp2k: Ubuntu doesn't support gui for setting desktop resolution?
[07:04] <gogeta> merodent lol he didnt say crash to me lol
[07:04] <regeya> whee.
where do i go to register it
[07:04] <hhp2k> razer: ubuntu does its best to autodetect your monitor's settings, but this is commonly the problem with unresolved resolution problems. Sometimes Ubuntu can't figure it out, so it's up to you.
[07:04] <gogeta> merodent hear i am thinking he has acess to menu.list
[07:04] <gogeta> lol
[07:04] <MasterShrek> rahul_, /msg nickserv register help
[07:04] <hhp2k> razer: Do you know how to reconfigure xorg.conf?
[07:05] <jeff1212> mindrape:  i read man shred but doesnt say how t shred the empty space on the hdd
[07:05] <m1r> gogeta, how to acces it ?
[07:05] <soundblaster> Dr_Willis, i dont have the 'digital out'
[07:05] <skorice> whats the channel for programming
[07:05] <regeya> o_O
[07:05] <gogeta> m1r you have boot acessnow right
[07:05] <MeRodent> gogeta, I was going to mention it but I thought I'd let you discover that yourself. (he also has the root partition much further up than 0,1)
[07:05] <m1r> gogeta: grub>
[07:05] <razer> hhp2k: Don't think so. Just so you know I didn't use the x.org though, I used the driver supplied by nvidia and compiled it with libc-dev
[07:05] <MeRodent> m1r, the command should be quit
[07:05] <lee__> i was a vollunteer for kltv a local non profit 5013c..and i am trying to find alternative to a morestable enviroment..for editng vids
[07:05] <m1r> merodent, it dont accept it
[07:06] <razer> hhp2k: But that file will still be there.
[07:06] <regeya> skorice: that's a bit general, so I doubt anyone can really help all that much, sorry
[07:06] <MeRodent> m1r, try ctrl z
[07:06] <m1r> kk
[07:06] <lee__> I record vids edit them on the hdd if small enoght and then prepare a dvd
[07:06] <gogeta> lol
[07:06] <m1r> nothing
[07:06] <gogeta> how he totaly crash grub
[07:06] <hhp2k> razer: xorg.conf is the configuration file for your computer's hardware, it's being used by default.  I don't want to set that manually.
[07:07] <thep33t> so anyone here familiar w/ the Geforce Go 6150 on a AMD64 system?
[07:08] <razer> hhp2k: In freespire it always allowed me to set the resolution and hz with the gui.
[07:08] <m1r> merodent , rahul_ , same point, grub> (cant use quit/exit)
[07:08] <MasterShrek> thep33t, i am, exactly what im running
[07:08] <hhp2k> razer: If you supply me with your monitor's make and model number, I can find that information and we can set it up together.
[07:08] <gogeta> quick ban razer
[07:08] <jeff1212> has anyone in here used shred before?
[07:08] <lee__> has free spire..
[07:08] <gogeta> freespire
[07:08] <razer> hhp2k: ok
[07:08] <gogeta> yuck
[07:08] <lee__> don;'t use it though
[07:08] <mindrape> jeff1212 - man shred... it has all the info.
[07:08] <razer> hhp2k: On the front it says syncMaster 753DF
[07:08] <hhp2k> razer: normally when nothing else is wrong, that's the problem, so it's natural to go with that. Don't worry, it's a painless process. =)
[07:08] <jeff1212> mindrape: i have it dont say what i need?
[07:09] <lee__> as I can't seem to up grade with it to the newer version
[07:09] <m1r> <afk coffe
[07:09] <hhp2k> Samsung SyncMaster 753DF - Processing now
 merodent , rahul_ , same point, grub> (cant use quit/exit) i have no idea where u r stuck
[07:09] <gogeta> m1r why not use grub live cd reapre grub
[07:09] <hhp2k> razer: Funny, I have the same monitor sitting in front of me. =)
[07:09] <joseph> Anybody know if it is possible to get a HP Laptop with a broadcom internal wireless working with wpa and running ubuntu?
[07:09] <rahul_> elaborate
[07:09] <MeRodent> rahul_, he is in the grub command shell.
[07:09] <gogeta> m1r is linux only on the pen drive?
[07:09] <rahul_> i c
[07:09] <mattbot> Is there any way to tell when Ubuntu was installed on this machine? (its only been like a week)
[07:09] <rahul_> and what is he trying to do
[07:10] <lee__> if its made after 2005 or 6 probably yes
 rahul_, he is in the grub command shell ( and what is he trying to do )
[07:10] <mindrape> mattbot - you can ls -alh within a directory that hasn't been touched since installation.  :)
[07:10] <MeRodent> rahul_, reinstall the grub bootloader.
[07:10] <mattbot> good call, thanks
[07:10] <hhp2k> razer: Sync ranges acquired. Now, let's go through the step-by-step process. Open up a terminal and type in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg".
[07:10] <jeff1212> mindrape: every command comes bck as failed to open for writing: No such file or directory
[07:10] <hhp2k> razer: inform me when you complete each step.
[07:10] <razer> hhp2k: wow thanks
[07:10] <gogeta> well if its on the pendrive he may have accdently installed it on hda1 making it crash
[07:10] <m1r> <back
[07:11] <mindrape> jeff1212 - thats the FBI screwing with your mind.
[07:11] <m1r> gogeta, do you understand the word laptop ?
[07:11] <CreativeEmbassy> can someone help me figure out why I have no web access?
[07:11] <roxygirl> hey, i'm havin troubles mounting devices.  it says i don't have permission to.  help anyone?
[07:11] <CreativeEmbassy> as in, I can talk on IRC
[07:11] <Kyokuz> getting raid working really really sucks
[07:11] <mindrape> roxygirl - sudo mount /dev/whatever /mnt/wherever
[07:11] <lee__> hmm looks like you have web access to me lol
[07:11] <gogeta> m1r what abought it
[07:11] <DerangedDingo> roxygirl: try sudo
[07:11] <CreativeEmbassy> but I can't see websites
[07:11] <MeRodent> m1r, try rebooting (though I'm not happy that it doesn't let you quit).
[07:12] <gogeta> m1r is linux on a pendrive or partationed
[07:12] <MeRodent> m1r, sorry. just thought of something.
[07:12] <lee__> sounds like you need a pw
[07:12] <joseph> I tried ndiswrapper and no luck on wireless funny thing is PCLinux os runs it fine
[07:12] <hhp2k> razer: Were you able to complete that last step?
[07:12] <razer> hhp2k: Ok, just did
[07:12] <MeRodent> m1r, did you start grub or sudo grub?
[07:12] <m1r> damn !"!
[07:12] <DerangedDingo> CreativeEmbassy: That's quite weird. I can only think of it being a browser issue but.. I've never heard of that
[07:12] <m1r> merodent , grub
[07:12] <razer> hhp2k: I completed the last setp, I can see the setup.
[07:13] <varka> joseph: what model number of broadcom chipset ?
[07:13] <MeRodent> m1r, hopefully that's your problem. Boot from livecd then sudo grub
[07:13] <m1r> Merodent :D
[07:13] <MeRodent> m1r, then run the commands.
[07:13] <joseph> I think it's the 4308
 ok where is mlr now
[07:13] <gogeta> well if he has the lve cd installer he can run the installer and updater
[07:13] <rahul_> quite form wat
[07:13] <gogeta> alt easer
[07:14] <joseph> Is there a command I can run from a terminal to get the broadcom chipset
[07:14] <razer> hhp2k: I have a geforce 2
[07:14] <rahul_> gogeta has a point for grub
[07:14] <rahul_> that's what i did
[07:14] <m1r> hmm
[07:14] <gogeta> grub install and grub update from term
[07:14] <jeff1212> mindrape: it comes back invalid file size
[07:14] <varka> joseph: you have ndiswrapper installed?
[07:14] <rahul_> all u have to do form their is change ur mapping and save and quite
[07:14] <MeRodent> rahul_, can you prefix with nicks so we know who you're talking to?
[07:14] <lee__> eh has any one mistakingly loaded the oem version off from the disk?
[07:15] <gogeta> probly just update sence its there
[07:15] <DerangedDingo> joseph: lshw should do it
[07:15] <rahul_> usere
[07:15] <rahul_> sure
[07:15] <hhp2k> razer: okay. You will be presented with a blue screen. Most of the values are set automatically, so you can press enter for the majority of this. If you can't press enter on some screens, press tab and then enter. When you are asked about your monitor, give the wizard the name of your monitor. When you are presented with a list of resolutions your monitor supports, go down the list and select everything from 1400 down using the spaceba
[07:15] <rahul_> u want him on
[07:15] <CreativeEmbassy> aha!
[07:15] <rahul_> he wont help u thought that's the only thing
[07:15] <m1r> oh good
[07:15] <CreativeEmbassy> turned off moblock
[07:15] <MeRodent> m1r, oh good what?
[07:16] <DerangedDingo> CreativeEmbassy: Yay
[07:16] <razer> hhp2k: Should I select nvidia or nv?
[07:16] <lee__> eh brb...
[07:16] <m1r> merodent , customer just called , he wont manage till 13:00
[07:16] <lee__> well in a bit.. ill be on as an oem if it works lol
[07:16] <hhp2k> razer: nv.
[07:16] <lee__> oh wait..
[07:16] <MeRodent> m1r, doesn't mean a lot to me as it's 4:16 pm here.
[07:16] <lee__> i do have a question
[07:16] <lee__> I used the update rom
[07:16] <pyrokid> ji
[07:17] <razer> hhp2k: oh thats good to know. Don't know what the other would have done
 i know this for sure that if u have live cd then use that to get grub
[07:17] <m1r> merodent , in live cd, i try again with sudo grub
[07:17] <joseph> Varka right now I'm running PCLinux os because it worked with the wireless I prefer ubuntu but can't get the wireless to work
[07:17] <rahul_> i've been doing that for last 4x
[07:17] <hhp2k> razer: =) let me know if you get stuck.
[07:17] <m1r> merodetn , is 7:15 here
[07:17] <lee__> and the only thing taht worked on the x update rom ws the OEM lol
[07:17] <roxygirl> mindrape: ok, but do i have to go through sudo everytime, isn't there a way for it to automatically mount?
[07:17] <gogeta> m1r easer rogut is running sudo grub-update
[07:17] <razer> hhp2k: It wants me to supply an identifier for my video card
[07:17] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, /etc/fstab
[07:17] <MeRodent> m1r, let me know if you can't remember the commands.
[07:17] <lee__> night masterschreck
[07:17] <hhp2k> razer: Give it the name of your card, the Geforce and model number.
 tell me something
[07:18] <razer> hhp2k: It doesn't matter if I don't know right?
[07:18] <m1r> merodent i never forget em
[07:18] <rahul_> about mlr
[07:18] <hhp2k> razer: Nope =)
[07:18] <razer> hhp2k: I think its geforce2
[07:18] <m1r> gogeta, k
[07:18] <hhp2k> razer: You can enter what you want, leaving it blank is fine too.
[07:18] <razer> hhp2k: it wasts to know the video card bus identifier.
[07:19] <varka> joseph: there is a linux driver for that type of chipset. i have a link to a detailed howto here, but in german :/. but its important for you to first uninstall ndiswrapper-utils and blacklist its kernel module
[07:19] <roxygirl> mastershrek: ya, what exactly do i do in /etc/fstab...i don't really know what i'm muckin around with
[07:19] <gogeta> m1r grub normaly borks if the partatin is changed
[07:19] <hhp2k> razer: Okay. Open up another terminal for me and type in that one "lspci | grep VGA".
[07:20] <hhp2k> razer: Tell me the first number output.
[07:20] <gogeta> m1r not normaly grub isself is bad but the menu/list is bad
[07:20] <m1r> gogeta, i had left usb hdd in while rebooting
[07:20] <gogeta> yea probly confused it
[07:20] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, dont change anything, just add to the end of it
[07:20] <MeRodent> gogeta, m1r hasn't got to the menu.lst he's still at stage 1
[07:20] <joseph> Where can I find info on blacklisting a kernel module
[07:20] <gogeta> yea
[07:20] <varka> joseph: type lspci in a terminal to see what type of broadcom you definately have
[07:20] <gogeta> i said it whent bad
[07:20] <razer> hhp2k: It says "01:00.0 , also says GeForce 2 MX/MX 400.
[07:20] <gogeta> acully
[07:20] <gogeta> he can get into it from the live cd
[07:21] <gogeta> just mount linux on the live cd
[07:21] <m1r> merodent , same
[07:21] <MeRodent> m1r, so you can't quit out of grub?
[07:21] <razer> hhp2k: "01:00.0"
[07:21] <hhp2k> okay. using that, go back to the terminal where we're configuring xorg.conf and type in "PCI:1:0:0".
[07:21] <gogeta> hes in live cd
[07:21] <m1r> yep
[07:22] <frostburn> joseph,$man modprobe.conf
[07:22] <gogeta> m1r you try grub install and grub update?
[07:22] <varka> joseph: after that, check if it is listet here. if it is, you are able to use the native linux driver instead of ndiswrapper crap
[07:22] <varka> joseph: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[07:22] <razer> hhp2k: It says amount of memory to be used by the video card.
[07:22] <m1r> gogeta no
[07:23] <MeRodent> m1r, I can't think of anything else. :(
[07:23] <gogeta> m1r worth a try sence you have live cd
[07:23] <roxygirl> mastershrek: it's a read-only file tho
[07:23] <hhp2k> razer: This can be left black.
[07:23] <hhp2k> *blank
[07:23] <razer> ok
[07:23] <m1r> merodent, many tnx m8
[07:23] <Caelum> a machine I'm trying to upgrade to feisty is refusing to boot with "mdadm: no devices listed were found" or something, is it safe to boot it with knoppix and remove the mdadm package?
[07:23] <razer> hhp2k: it asks use kernal framebuffer device interface?
[07:23] <razer> yes/no
[07:24] <hhp2k> razer: Whatever is selected is fine, just press enter.
[07:24] <gogeta> m1r i bet these 2 commands i told you will work
[07:24] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, sudo
[07:24] <MeRodent> m1r, good luck. Let me know how you fix it if you do and see me online.
[07:24] <m1r> ok, many tnx merodent
[07:24] <razer> autodetect keyboard?
[07:24] <m1r> gogeta, i try next run
[07:24] <roxygirl> mastershrek: how do i add to the end of the file in the terminal (sorry, all this terminal stuff is new to me)
[07:24] <gogeta> also
[07:24] <gogeta> !grub
[07:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:24] <razer> hhp2k: I think no
[07:24] <ik0n> Hi, I am very new to Linux.  I am looking for someplace to start to learn the fundamentals of working in the environment. (Example on how the file structure is setup vs Windows, beginners tips).  Is there a resource out there that is user friendly?
[07:24] <razer> hhp2k: for autodetect keyboard
[07:24] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[07:25] <hhp2k> razer: That's fine as well.
[07:25] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, i have no idea what you are trying to mount, else id be able to help you a little mroe lol
[07:25] <frostburn> ik0n, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[07:25] <m1r> gogeta
[07:25] <Kyokuz> aghhh why is my crom locked..? any ideas?
[07:25] <gogeta> yea
[07:26] <Kyokuz> cdrom*
[07:26] <m1r> gogeta, can i manualy edit menu.lst ?
[07:26] <razer> hhp2k: it wants to know my keyboard model
[07:26] <gogeta> from live cd
[07:26] <gogeta> yes
[07:26] <razer> hhp2k: it says pc105
[07:26] <roxygirl> mastershrek: i'm mounting an external hard drive
[07:26] <hhp2k> razer: That's fine.
[07:26] <gogeta> i beleve so
[07:26] <n2diy> Is there a way to determine how and why a ppp connection was derminated?
[07:26] <Caelum> ik0n: look at a bash or zsh tutorial to learn how to use the shell
[07:26] <MasterShrek> damn im fittin on goin to bed tho, roxygirl someone else can help you convert your 'mount' command to an fstab entry
[07:26] <MasterShrek> its not too difficult
[07:26] <razer> hhp2k: can I leave keyboard variant to blank?
[07:26] <Caelum> n2diy: see the pppd log
[07:26] <DerangedDingo> roxygirl: Can I be of assistance?
[07:26] <hhp2k> razer: Yes.
[07:27] <n2diy> derminated/terminated
[07:27] <razer> hhp2k: wants to know the mouse port
[07:27] <roxygirl> mastershrek:  thanks, you've been a huge help already
[07:27] <roxygirl> Dingo: yes...please!
[07:27] <hhp2k> razer: Press enter through that as well.
[07:27] <razer> hhp2k: and protocol as well?
[07:27] <roxygirl> Dingo: i'm in the nano, but haven't a clue what to do there
[07:28] <MeRodent> m1r, if you boot does the grub menu come up?
[07:28] <DerangedDingo> roxygirl: so you're trying to mount and external hard drive... and sudo mount /media/externalharddrive doesn't work?
[07:28] <hhp2k> razer: Yep =) Press enter, that value is predetermined.
[07:28] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, ill help u finish this up, paste your mount command here, the one u used to mount your hard drive
[07:28] <varka> ik0n: http://linux-for-beginners.blogspot.com/2006_05_31_linux-for-beginners_archive.html
[07:28] <n2diy> Caelum: roger, thanks.
[07:28] <MasterShrek> but then i have to get to bed lol
[07:28] <m1r> merodent: grub>
[07:29] <MeRodent> m1r, but not the boot loader?
[07:29] <DerangedDingo> roxygirl: Use the arrow keys to navigate in nano, and use Control + 0 to save, Control + X to exit, etc, etc
[07:29] <m1r> nope
[07:29] <m1r> merodent; says Grub loading, then goes grub>
[07:29] <razer> hhp2k: it wants to know the xorg modules to enable?
[07:29] <hhp2k> razer: What is selected is fine.
[07:30] <roxygirl> mastershrek: ok...in the anno, paste my mount command...hold on
[07:30] <MeRodent> if you run the livecd and mount the drives how many disks come up in places computer?
[07:30] <wolferine> anyone else use Azureus with a Linksys 54GL or 54G ?
[07:30] <m1r> merodent 4
[07:30] <razer> hhp2k: write default feiles section to config file yes/no?
[07:30] <n2diy> Caelum: I don't have any ppp logs, running Dapper.
[07:30] <MeRodent> m1r, what names?
[07:31] <hhp2k> razer: Yes.
[07:31] <m1r> merodent hda1 , 6, 7 ,8
[07:31] <razer> hhp2k: attempt monitor autodetection?
[07:31] <hhp2k> razer: Yes.
[07:31] <jewbilee> my friend just installed ubuntu on an external HDD and now when he went to reboot to into Ubuntu, he gets a grub error 21.  He has a RAID setup with vista as his main OS but now he cant even boot into that
[07:31] <jewbilee> can anyone help?
[07:31] <hhp2k> jewbilee: Ouch :P
[07:31] <jewbilee> ?
[07:31] <MeRodent> m1r, if you mount hda6 does it have a /boot/grub directory?
[07:31] <MasterShrek> jewbilee, that sounds messy
[07:32] <razer> hhp2k: Now it says video modes to be used by the X server.
[07:32] <jewbilee> yea, its turning out to be
[07:32] <jewbilee> any hints?
[07:32] <jewbilee> our main cocern is being able to boot back into vista
[07:32] <MasterShrek> not really, i dunno how raids work
[07:32] <jewbilee> we can use the ubuntu live cd to do any work
[07:32] <jewbilee> if needed
[07:32] <roxygirl> mastershrek: shit, i lost which command i used...best i can tell it's /media/My Book (the name of the device), but does that make sense?
[07:32] <m1r> merodent , let me check names, but i think is 6 ,7 ,8
[07:32] <hhp2k> razer: Select everything down the list starting with the values that begin with 1400. anything above 1400 is unsupported by your monitor.
[07:33] <DerangedDingo> roxygirl: mount /media/MyBook
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | roxygirl
[07:33] <ubotu> roxygirl: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:33] <ik0n> Thank you all.  :)
[07:33] <frostburn> roxygirl, Hit the up arrow in a console or take a look at ~/.bash_history
[07:33] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, thats the mount point, whats the device name? /dev/sd...
[07:33] <Bl0w_M0nk> hello hello
[07:33] <roxygirl> sorry!
[07:33] <razer> hhp2k: i pressed enter instead of space bar.
[07:33] <yoopernate2004> I'm using this command to back up my system: tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /  is it going to back up my /home directory too if i put that on a different partition?
[07:33] <razer> hhp2k: is there a way to go back?
[07:33] <jewbilee> Can anyone help with the problem i said?
[07:33] <frostburn> jewbilee, is grub on the raid partition?
[07:34] <Bl0w_M0nk> quick question  does this platform of linux wrk w voip
[07:34] <void^> jewbilee: you can't start an os on an external disk when booting internal disks usually. he has to restore the bootblock. i'm not sure how to do it on vista.
[07:34] <m1r> merodent , 5 ,6 ,7
[07:34] <hhp2k> razer: oops =) There isn't a way to go back, but it's okay, we'll re-do it. Everything you did up to this point can be passed through by pressing enter, so don't worry.
[07:34] <m1r> 5 is /boot
[07:34] <wolferine> Bl0w_M0nk, asterisk
[07:34] <nickrud> yoopernate2004: not sure, but you should add /dev to your excludes
[07:34] <hhp2k> razer: let's just keep going.
[07:34] <varka> ik0n: http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/official/
[07:34] <roxygirl> mastershrek, it's either /dev/sdb1   or /dev/sda2 or /dev/sda1...
[07:34] <MeRodent> m1r, if you mount 5 does it have a /boot/grub directory on it?
[07:34] <yoopernate2004> i was wondering about that...and i've heard both
[07:34] <Bl0w_M0nk> wolferine thanks
[07:34] <DerangedDingo> Bl0w_M0nk: There are VOIP clients for Linux
[07:34] <razer> hhp2k: method for selecting monitor simple/medium/advanced
[07:34] <yoopernate2004> whats the reason for adding it
[07:34] <jewbilee> We believe grub is on the raid partition, yes
[07:34] <m1r> merodent think so
[07:34] <hhp2k> razer: advanced. This is the part that we're here for.
[07:34] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, type: ls /dev/sd*
[07:34] <Bl0w_M0nk> som1 said centos was the platform to wrk w
[07:35] <nickrud> yoopernate2004: now adays it's dynamic. Used to be you had to add some nodes, so you'd save it. Not needed now
[07:35] <Bl0w_M0nk> then astrisk
[07:35] <wolferine> Bl0w_M0nk, thats for running your own server, if you just want a softphone, I recommend twinkle or ekiga
[07:35] <yoopernate2004> ah ok, that makes sense
[07:35] <razer> hhp2k: ok, monitor sync range.
[07:35] <MeRodent> m1r, if it does can you check for menu.lst in the dirctory?
[07:35] <Bl0w_M0nk> yup yup my own server
[07:35] <hhp2k> razer: is it asking for horizontal or vertical right now?
[07:35] <m1r> merodent , 1 min to boot live
[07:35] <razer> hhp2k: horizontal.
[07:35] <hhp2k> razer: enter "40-70"
[07:36] <Bl0w_M0nk> wolferine ubuntu wont wrk??
[07:36] <hhp2k> razer: without the quotation marks.
[07:36] <ubuntu_>  Flannel: ok now what i type to shred the hdd?
[07:36] <razer> hhp2k: Ok, I'm putting 40-70
[07:36] <wolferine> Bl0w_M0nk, question is what?
[07:36] <Bl0w_M0nk> hehehe
[07:36] <n2diy> razer ,hhp2k, don't over clock your verticial.
[07:36] <hhp2k> razer: perfect.
[07:36] <roxygirl> masterShrek: i get /dev/sda, sda1, sda2, sdb, sdb1, sdc, sdc1
[07:36] <hhp2k> n2diy: I'm selecting values from the monitor's manual, don't worry =)
[07:36] <razer> hhp2k: ok, what is the vertical?
[07:36] <razer> hhp2k: you mean leave it?
[07:36] <m1r> how come there is option rescue and no option for bootloader rescue on ubuntu :/
[07:36] <hhp2k> razer: 50-160.
[07:37] <Bl0w_M0nk> i was told use centos then asterisk
[07:37] <razer> 160 seems a little high
[07:37] <razer> but ok
[07:37] <wolferine> um
[07:37] <n2diy> razer ,hhp2k, correction, don't over clock your horz. Good luck.
[07:37] <wolferine> centos is an OS
[07:37] <Bl0w_M0nk> yup yup
[07:37] <hhp2k> Thank you n2diy
[07:37] <nickrud> m1r: because the bootloader bootstraps everything else
[07:37] <Bl0w_M0nk> i was asking does it matter wat platform
[07:37] <wolferine> your point is what exactly?
[07:37] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, im not really sure which one it is, cuz u have sdb1 and sdc1, i would assume sdc1 but i dont know for sure, it didnt auto-mount?
[07:37] <jewbilee> Can someone help me setup GRUB to work with my friends computer?
[07:37] <wolferine> I did not see you ask that question, until now
[07:37] <Bl0w_M0nk> im not that savy w linux
[07:37] <razer> hhp2k: it says write monitor sync ranges to conf file?
[07:37] <jewbilee> we really need to get this working
[07:37] <Bl0w_M0nk> lol
[07:37] <hhp2k> razer: select yes.
[07:37] <m1r> nickrud , can u explain ?
[07:38] <Bl0w_M0nk> im slow 2night
[07:38] <wolferine> your not savy with the English language either :)
[07:38] <Bl0w_M0nk> no coffee
[07:38] <razer> hhp2k: color depth 24?
[07:38] <roxygirl> mastershrek: it said that i didn't have priveledges to mount, until i used sudo
[07:38] <Bl0w_M0nk> 2 much slang
[07:38] <wolferine> good, you need the rest
[07:38] <hhp2k> razer: yep
[07:38] <roxygirl> mastershrek: but i've lost which sudo
[07:38] <razer> hhp2k: Ok, it is done.
[07:38] <MasterShrek> i know roxygirl, are you running 7.04?
[07:38] <Bl0w_M0nk> anyway do think it doesnt matter w OS to use w asterisk
[07:38] <hhp2k> razer: Okay, we're not finished yet. We have to re-do the process and select those video modes.
[07:38] <nickrud> m1r: the bios reads the mbr of the first hard drive in order to know how to boot the operating system. No bootloader on the mbr, nothing will load an os
[07:39] <m1r> MeRodent: now it didnt mount any hd's
[07:39] <hhp2k> So in the terminal, press the up arrow button, and your previous command should appear.
[07:39] <wolferine> Bl0w_M0nk, im no genius, but your asking in another OSes channel, and some suggested Asterisk, you put two and two together
[07:39] <Bl0w_M0nk> im trying to be lasy and use an os thats not going shoot myself in the foot/head :-(
[07:39] <MeRodent> m1r, if you choose places computer?
[07:39] <nickrud> m1r: mbr is master boot record. That's where the bootloader lives
[07:39] <Bl0w_M0nk> is that in here?
[07:39] <hhp2k> If "lspci | grep VGA" appears, press the up arrow button one more time.
[07:39] <Bl0w_M0nk> well not here
[07:39] <wolferine> ill do it for you, if need be
[07:39] <Bl0w_M0nk> plz help
[07:40] <m1r> nickrud, i know that part, but what is bootstrap ?
[07:40] <Bl0w_M0nk> :-))
[07:40] <ce_muse_17> chaca
[07:40] <Pirate_Hunter> is gnome 2.20 being released on Gutsy or can it be used with Feisty as well?
[07:40] <Bl0w_M0nk> im sorry im listening to the pirate story off cuba
[07:40] <nickrud> m1r: start from scratch. Comes from the phrase, 'lift yourself by your bootstraps' , the little loops on the top of a pair of boots
[07:40] <Bl0w_M0nk> walk the plank
[07:40] <wolferine> u obviously suffer from ADD
[07:40] <Bl0w_M0nk> LOL
[07:40] <wolferine> maybe you might want to hit up google
[07:40] <Bl0w_M0nk> ya think
[07:40] <m1r> nickrud , tnx
[07:41] <mistone> I cant wait for gutsy
[07:41] <hhp2k> wolferine, Bl0w_M0nk: Not in here please.
[07:41] <Stinkfly> hi
[07:41] <Bl0w_M0nk> for th asterisk channel
[07:41] <Pirate_Hunter> is gnome 2.20 being released on Gutsy or can it be used with Feisty as well?
[07:41] <m1r> merodent, yes i can see menu.lst
[07:41] <Bl0w_M0nk> hhp2k wat?
[07:41] <n2diy> Bl0w_M0nk: where are you listening to the pirates?
[07:41] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: if you feel like compiling the whole thing, you can use it on Feisty
[07:41] <gnomefreak> Pirate_Hunter: gutsy only
[07:41] <hhp2k> razer: Were you able to locate the command or do you want me to give it to you again?
[07:41] <Bl0w_M0nk> heheh
[07:41] <wolferine> !offtopic
[07:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:41] <Bl0w_M0nk> THey lied!!!!
[07:42] <Pirate_Hunter> gnomefreak: thanx
[07:42] <gnomefreak> np
[07:42] <Bl0w_M0nk> it was sponge bob
[07:42] <razer> hhp2k: the reconfigure command was there and I hit enter. It said overwriting and that was it.
[07:42] <MeRodent> m1r, lets have a look at it.
[07:42] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: 0_o??? nah I'll wait lol
[07:42] <razer> hhp2k: and it said it put a backup in a path
[07:42] <hhp2k> razer: Okay, let's enter it one more time: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:42] <Bl0w_M0nk> anyway
[07:43] <gnomefreak> Bl0w_M0nk: join #ubuntu-offtopic for random chat
[07:43] <razer> hhp2k: ok that time it started
[07:43] <Bl0w_M0nk> np
[07:43] <m1r> merodent ,sec to check it
[07:43] <Bl0w_M0nk> lokking for channel w astersik
[07:43] <razer> hhp2k: So I just go through again?
[07:43] <wolferine> maybe try #asterisk
[07:43] <wolferine> your really lacking any sort of intellience tonight
[07:43] <hhp2k> razer: Good =) Now we can just skip most of what we went through last time, and head straight to the video mode section again. From there, we'll have to re-enter the sync values.
[07:44] <Madpilot> Bl0w_M0nk, how about #asterisk
[07:44] <Pirate_Hunter> is 2GB ok to run compizdusion in ubuntu and all its effects?
[07:44] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: yeah, that's why I use ubuntu also :)
[07:44] <m1r> merodent, seems ok
[07:44] <Madpilot> (check spelling of that...)
[07:44] <wolferine> I wont really recommend going into that channel if your acting like this
[07:44] <hhp2k> Pirate_Hunter: Definitely.
[07:44] <Bl0w_M0nk> no go
[07:44] <razer> hhp2k: by skip you mean just hit enter?
[07:44] <hhp2k> razer: Yes.
[07:44] <razer> hhp2k: and it will be the same position as I put in before?
[07:44] <hhp2k> razer: Yep. if there's anything you're not sure about, ask me.
[07:44] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: lol I would thought you wouldve used it for the stability, security etc but it seems compiz is what got you lol
[07:44] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: it's not the amount of memory, it's having the right video card.
[07:44] <Bl0w_M0nk> lol i did look up google  my main question would it matter wat platform i would have for the server
[07:45] <MeRodent> m1r, the linux choices have root (hd0,5) ?
[07:45] <hhp2k> nickrud: That too =)
[07:45] <m1r> merodent , yes
[07:45] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: nah, I used to compile everything from scratch. Then I found debian :)
[07:45] <roxygirl> mastershrek: yes
[07:45] <roxygirl> mastershrek: ok, i think it's sda2
[07:45] <roxygirl> mastershrek: now, i just copy that into the nano?
[07:45] <m1r> and win has hd0,0
[07:45] <Bl0w_M0nk> to wrk w asterisk
[07:45] <roxygirl> mastershrek:  sorry, bad internet connection
[07:45] <MeRodent> m1r, still can't see anything that's wrong. :(
[07:45] <Tech-Mike> any apps for avi or mpg to dvd?
[07:45] <razer> hhp2k: ok, I'm at resolutions, do I use space bar to select them?
[07:46] <m1r> merodent, i cant belive that USB can cause such problem
[07:46] <hhp2k> razer: Yes.
[07:46] <roxygirl> mastershrek:  you still there?
[07:46] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: erh that can be tricky this comp still uses default graphics card and it all ive needed till now... yeah debian where would we be without it
[07:46] <razer> hhp2: do I use 1440 and below or 1400 and below?
[07:46] <hhp2k> razer: At the bottom of the list, 1024x768, 800x600 & 640x480 are already selected, make sure you don't deselect them =) 1440 and below.
[07:46] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: true. As long as it's an intel(?) or for sure an nvidia, you're good to go
[07:47] <razer> hhp2k: ok I selected all of that.
[07:47] <hhp2k> razer: Great. Let's move on to the Sync ranges again and I'll give you the values one more time.
[07:47] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: wnna help me install compiz right now :)
[07:47] <razer> hhp2k: ok horizontal.
[07:48] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: *wanna
[07:48] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: I have ati, I've never been able to use compiz
[07:48] <hhp2k> razer: Horizontal sync range: 40-70
[07:48] <GNine> compiz is offtopic here
[07:48] <razer> hhp2k: veritical.
[07:48] <GNine> i is here
[07:48] <hhp2k> Pirate_Hunter: Head to #compiz-fusion for help there.
[07:48] <hhp2k> razer: 50-160.
[07:49] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: you lied to me and I thought we had soemthing special lol
[07:49] <hhp2k> nickrud: Poor you :P
[07:49] <Pirate_Hunter> hhp2k: kk
[07:49] <razer> hhp2: write to file?
[07:49] <hhp2k> razer: yes.
[07:49] <frostburn> nickrud, fear not, there should be some awesome ati drivers coming out soon since amd open sourced them
[07:49] <razer> hhp2k: ok , done
[07:49] <hhp2k> Okay =)
[07:49] <nickrud> frostburn: I'm burning for the day :)
[07:50] <Bl0w_M0nk> wolferine thanks  forgot to register
[07:50] <hhp2k> razer: now, in order for these changes to take effect you must disconnect and re-login. When you're ready to do that, press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. It will reboot your session (not the computer) and present you with your login screen. From there, see if you can change your resolution. If you can't, come back here and we'll see what else might be wrong.
[07:50] <Bl0w_M0nk> lol
[07:51] <hhp2k> GNine: How is it?
[07:51] <m1r> sexy gutsy
[07:51] <GNine> smooth. on my end
[07:51] <hhp2k> GNine: is it much different than fiesty?
[07:51] <nickrud> Gutsy's networkmanager is sooooooooooooooooo much better
[07:51] <hhp2k> mmm, that's what I want to head
[07:51] <hhp2k> *hear
[07:52] <hhp2k> .. not head :P
[07:52] <GNine> i wouldnt say so, on the surface.  but .. if you start considering certain things.. it is above Feisty
[07:52] <razer> hhp2k: the screen went black.
[07:52] <benny_> holly crap batman.. this channel is huge!
[07:52] <hhp2k> razer: Were you able to log back in?
[07:52] <razer> hhp2k: there is no text. Just a black screen.
[07:53] <n2diy> benny_: this slow!
[07:53] <hhp2k> razer: How long has it been sitting there?
[07:53] <m1r> <goes gutsy
[07:53] <nickrud> benny_: and it's running about 15% less than I've seen
[07:53] <razer> hhp2k: almost a minute
[07:53] <titun> i have downloaded my local language pack. how do i enable it now?
[07:53] <n2diy> benny_: this _is_ slow!
[07:54] <nickrud> titun: system-admin-language support
[07:54] <hhp2k> razer: Reboot the computer and try it again. If it happens again, press ESC when the BIOS says it's loading GRUB and select recovery mode.
[07:54] <benny_> bit of a lag ey..
[07:54] <GNine> right now gutsy is a matter of choice.  i say, go gutsy if you are mentally ready for it.  aka .. not for noobs ... yet
[07:54] <razer> hhp2k: It never said any of that.
[07:54] <benny_> so who's running beta?
[07:54] <benny_> gutsy?
[07:54] <oem> its me lee lol
[07:54] <frostburn> benny_, everyone in #ubuntu+1 =P
[07:54] <oem> Is running unbutu in OEM
[07:55] <m1r> <ubuntu and +1 in 20 min or so
[07:55] <hhp2k> razer: When the computer boots, just before it loads GRUB it allows you to select the type of OS mode you'd like by pressing escape. Look for that (it only appears briefly) and hit esc quickly to enter that mode selection.
[07:55] <titun> nickrud: yes i have enabled my local language, also English is checked...do i have to reboot to see the changes?
[07:55] <oem> eh i have to do something while its up dating
[07:55] <n2diy> mir, u4mir have any meaning to you?
[07:55] <nickrud> titun: possibly just log out and back in
[07:55] <m1r> n2diy, not really
[07:55] <oem> hey nickrud
[07:56] <titun> nickrud: ok
[07:56] <nickrud> oem: hello
[07:56] <n2diy> mir, ok.
[07:56] <oem> its me lee lol
[07:56] <tropcky> hi all
[07:56] <tropcky> need help here
[07:56] <m1r> n2diy : I = 1 :P
[07:56] <MasterShrek> !ask
[07:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:56] <oem> this is the mode that would work in Unbutu X form the cd
[07:56] <tropcky> oky
[07:56] <Jordan_U> tropcky, Just ask :)
[07:56] <nickrud> oem: ah, hi lee__ :) How'd things go, I hated to drop out like that yesterday
[07:56] <hhp2k> razer: we need to enter recovery mode to access a text-only version of Ubuntu so we can reconfiure xorg one more time.
[07:56] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, its probably not sda2
[07:56] <razer> hhp2k: ok, I seleced recover mode.
[07:57] <razer> hp2k: its printing text to the screen.
[07:57] <tropcky> after i install the last update the system become so dem slow in evry thing  and slow as hell in start up
[07:57] <homekevin> Hey, X is using over a gig of memory here after being running only a day. Is there a known issue with any recent updates?
[07:57] <nickrud> oem: herm, that was iamollie or something, sorry
[07:57] <nickrud> homekevin: is that the sum of all the X processes, or the value of each process?
[07:58] <GNine> u can reconf xorg from terminal .. its safer
[07:58] <ubuntu_01d> can anyone help shed some light on this error from lilo   "Floating point exception" ?
[07:58] <hhp2k> razer: Excellent. Once you're at the command line, login and then try the command "gdm". Your screen will flash, and if the terminal tells you in a blue screen that it failed to load the X-Server, choose to see the xorg.conf log file output. Scroll to the bottom of that output and see what the error it says is.
[07:58] <n2diy> mir, ?
[07:58] <tropcky> any one ?
[07:58] <ubuntu_01d> i need to update the mbr  because of disk drive changes   but i can't get lilo to run without erroring out on    Floating point exception
[07:58] <razer> hp2k: don't worry if its messed up. I'll just reinstall. But... It says can't accesss tty; job control turned off. and it doesn't go any further.
[07:58] <homekevin> It's the actual X process
[07:58] <homekevin> /usr/X11R6/bin/X
[07:58] <razer> hhp2k: it is at (initramfs) and a curser where I can type
[07:58] <oem> oh it went fine.. I just tried a few things with tht ISO that I burned frox nickrud, its really buggy if you let it auto sense you monitor, so (oh lol) waht I did was chagne the monitor settings befor loading and had a clean drive and here it is..now should I poke this onething taht ays
[07:59] <hhp2k> razer: Hm, that's a different issue I'm not sure about.. might require a reinstall, but let's just try what I've got now if you're at the command line.
[07:59] <n2diy> lilo?
[07:59] <nickrud> oem: ah, ok.
[07:59] <oem> waht it mean prepeare for shipping to end user?
[07:59] <razer> hhp2k: I don't think its a real command line. Just a curser where I can type text.
[07:59] <benny_> anyone using Konversation?  how do I turn off the stupid "has joined/left" messages.. sorry IRC n00b.
[07:59] <ubuntu_01d> razer you only need to mount the root fs and exit the busybox shell   then rebuild the initramfs.img
[07:59] <oem> eh anyone?
[08:00] <hhp2k> razer: oh, that's not it. Try pressing Ctrl-C. If that doesn't work, reboot again and select recovery mode once more, and tell me what happens.
[08:00] <Jordan_U> benny_, More likely that someone in #kubuntu would know
[08:00] <nickrud> oem: on the boot disk? I think thats something for original equipment manufacturers to customize an install. Not sure, though
[08:00] <ubuntu_01d> razer however mounting the root fs  may be tricky
[08:00] <oem> I have an icon tht says prepare for shipping to end user
[08:00] <oem> eh eh um eh er
[08:00] <hhp2k> ubuntu_01d: We're not trying to do that, don't worry.
[08:01] <oem> eh it was th eo nly workable format
[08:01] <ubuntu_01d> hhp2k you don't want it to boot ?
[08:01] <nickrud> oem: like clear the user name and password, so on reboot it will ask
[08:01] <n2diy> oem: what OS are you playing with ?
[08:01] <oem> eh
[08:01] <razer> hhp2k: Ok this time I got a real prompt.
[08:01] <oem> just the download of x tahts all
[08:02] <oem> came with the download
[08:02] <xTheGoat121x> Evening all
[08:02] <n2diy> oem: Ubuntu doesn't use lilo, what OS are you playing with ?
[08:02] <oem> Ubuntu X
[08:02] <nickrud> hi xTheGoat121x
[08:02] <hhp2k> ubuntu_01d: We're reconfiguring the xorg.conf file for his sync ranges because he can't get higher than 1024, but the recon borked his system, so we're entering recovery mode to do it again.
[08:02] <oem> Would you like to havea looksy?
[08:02] <ubuntu_01d> n2diy ubuntu can use lilo
[08:02] <oem> I normally dont let any on in my sytem but this time around lol
[08:03] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, what' new this evening?  Any interesting problems
[08:03] <oem> For real I am using Ubuntu X
[08:03] <hhp2k> razer: Okay. Try the gdm command and see what happens.
[08:03] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x: nah, it's busy but quiet
[08:03] <Jordan_U> oem, Ubuntu X ? You mean Xubuntu?
[08:03] <oem> waht gdm cmnd?
[08:03] <m1r> xbox ubuntu ?
[08:03] <oem> no
[08:03] <MasterShrek> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:03] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, I gotcha
[08:03] <oem> its running on my PC
[08:04] <marvin_> helllo
[08:04] <Kud> o/
[08:04] <n2diy> oem: ubuntu_01d yes it can, but it isn't standard, so help here will be difficult for it.
[08:04] <Jordan_U> oem, Do you happen to have a link to the website for "Ubuntu X"?
[08:04] <ubuntu_01d> well anyway.    can someone at least make an educated guess at the   "Floating point exception"     error ?
[08:04] <razer> hhp2k: gdm command. you mean the reconfigure?
[08:04] <oem> I have everything yes
[08:04] <oem> well it only does a partial up grade in this mode
[08:05] <oem> and about 4,400 files worth of updates too
[08:05] <frostburn> ubuntu_01d, depends on the context
[08:05] <hhp2k> razer: Well, before we do that I'd like to see if the reconfigure we had done actually worked, and your system refused to start for some other reason. Type "gdm" in the command line and see what happens - that's Graphic Display Manager, and it should load your ubuntu login screen up.
[08:05] <ubuntu_01d> frostburn i'll repost.
[08:05] <oem> eh I downloaed it 4days ago
[08:05] <ubuntu_01d> can anyone help shed some light on this error from lilo   "Floating point exception" ?
[08:05] <oem> form ubunto
[08:05] <oem> eh ubuntu
[08:05] <MasterShrek> hhp2k, Gnome Display Manager *** :)
[08:06] <oem> just asec rbr dog
[08:06] <razer> hhp2k: the reoslution looks different.
[08:06] <hhp2k> razer: If it doesn't, it'll give you a blue screen with an option to see the logfile output - let's see the end of that output to determine the error so we can fix it.
[08:06] <spa_light> Hi all
[08:06] <hhp2k> MasterShrek: Thank you :)
[08:06] <razer> hhp2k: error window: failed to initialize HAL
[08:06] <hhp2k> razer: Did gdm start?
[08:06] <spa_light> Is anyone else experiencing problems with the ubuntu homepage? To me It looks like they have no CSS in place.
[08:06] <MasterShrek> ugh, i hate hal problems
[08:06] <ubuntu_01d> frostburn   i need to update the mbr  because of disk drive changes   but i can't get lilo to run without erroring out on    Floating point exception
[08:07] <hhp2k> spa_light: No problems here.
[08:07] <frostburn> ubuntu_01d, any reason why you're using lilo instead of grub?  i've only used lilo once, long ago
[08:07] <MasterShrek> ubuntu_01d, you need to run /sbin/lilo from the partition with lilo installed, and the /etc/lilo.conf
[08:07] <razer> hhp2k: yes, but the resolution is out of ratio and my curser scrolls over a larger virtual desktop off screen.
[08:07] <MasterShrek> which means if u cant boot it now, you have to boot a livecd and use chroot
[08:07] <ubuntu_01d> frostburn yes   no partitions
[08:07] <coucou747> hi all
[08:07] <spa_light> hhp2k: I can reproduce the problem on Firefox as well as Konqueror.
[08:07] <spa_light> hhp2k: strange ...
[08:07] <hhp2k> razer: Interesting. Try to log in if you can, and set your resolution. Also try to adjust your monitor settings, because they for sure went out of whack as well.
[08:08] <stefmax> Nice. Dual boot install was successful with the beta :)
[08:08] <hhp2k> spa_light: *shrug* Odd indeed.
[08:08] <ubuntu_01d> MasterShrek heh   i don't have any partitions.   and this is the running system.   it just errors out with    Floating point exception
[08:08] <oem> ok i am back
[08:08] <spa_light> Anyway. I am looking for a way to watch DVDs under 7.10 (gutsy). Is there a repo with the deCSS libs somewhere or do I have to install them manually? I cannot get to the help pages :(
[08:08] <sadmin> hi all
[08:08] <oem> it is gutsy
[08:09] <sadmin> i install ubuntu with ldap
[08:09] <razer> hhp2k: oh, default resolution was 1440x1024 on my 17 inch screen so it had me scrolling over a larger virtual desktop.
[08:09] <oem> so what is it that Iam looking for that shows me waht this thing is?
[08:09] <sadmin> my users a login through ldap all good
[08:09] <hhp2k> razer: That would be it :)
[08:09] <Jordan_U> oem, Read the channel topic
[08:09] <sadmin> now i want as my user login for 1 time ubuntu ask for passwd change and every 2 month it says change ur passwd
[08:09] <sadmin> how i do that
[08:09] <sadmin> also i want 3 old passwd history
[08:09] <ArmedKing> !tell oem about !Gutsy
[08:10] <razer> hhp2k: I'm at 1024x768, but it won't go above 60hz. Is that all this monitor can do at that rez?
[08:10] <sadmin> any idea
[08:10] <roxygirl> mastershrek:  thanks! i've got it figured out
[08:10] <oem> its says official Ubuntu support channel please be patient and read the faq
[08:10] <n2diy> sadmin: passwd username
[08:10] <hhp2k> razer: Unfortunately I have that problem as well, I'm not sure how to achieve higher refresh rates for certain resolutions.
[08:10] <Jordan_U> sadmin, Possibly #ldap
[08:10] <ArmedKing> oem; Sigh, Gutsy support is in Ubuntu+1
[08:11] <Jordan_U> oem, Gutsy is not supported, Beta testers should join #ubuntu+1
[08:11] <hhp2k> razer: But otherwise, are you able to get the resolution you wanted?
[08:11] <oem> erg why it spit me here then?
[08:11] <razer> hhp2k: that ma be al this monitor can do at this rez.
[08:11] <jamisnemo> What function sets which daemons start on boot?
[08:11] <ArmedKing> oem: Because Gutsy is still beta
[08:11] <razer> hhp2k: I can go higher than 1024 yes
[08:11] <hhp2k> razer: That's possible as well.
[08:11] <oem> ah ty sorry it was the machine that sent me here
[08:11] <hhp2k> razer: Good =)
[08:11] <Flannel> !init | jamisnemo
[08:11] <ubotu> jamisnemo: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:11] <n2diy> jamisnemo: init.d
[08:11] <ArmedKing> oem: No problem m8
[08:11] <jamisnemo> alright thanks
[08:12] <oem> its flat emoty lol
[08:12] <spa_light> !decss
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about decss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:12] <spa_light> !dvd
[08:12] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:12] <razer> hhp2k: it says my nvidia acceleration is not in use under restricted drivers.
[08:13] <hhp2k> razer: System > Administration > Restricted Drivers Manager
[08:13] <oem> oh well forget the support...I'll just poke the button and see waht happens lol
[08:13] <razer> hhp2k: yeah I'm there. should I enable it?
[08:13] <hhp2k> razer: You'll find your nVidia driver in the list, click the check box. It'll start installing.
[08:13] <razer> hhp2k: I used the nvidia driver from nvidia.com
[08:13] <hhp2k> razer: That'll increase your video performance to the expected level.
[08:13] <razer> hhp2k: I compiled and installed the driver from nvidia.com not the x.org one.
[08:13] <hhp2k> razer: Yeah, just use the one in the Manager. Lot easier =)
[08:13] <razer> hhp2k: Which of those two drivers should I be using.
[08:13] <ubuntu_old> sorry; i lost connection.
[08:14] <ubuntu_old> "Floating point exception"  ???
[08:14] <hhp2k> razer: are there two in the list for the Restricted Drivers Manager?
[08:14] <razer> hhp2k: is it ok to install the manager one now that I have the nvidia one?
[08:14] <jamisnemo> So if I don't want a daemon to run on boot I just set -x on the script in /etc/init.d/,  Correct?
[08:14] <razer> hhp2k: no
[08:14] <Shrimpy_> an ati radion 9000 is a 128mb?
[08:14] <hhp2k> razer: It should be okay.
[08:14] <jamisnemo> or is there a more official way to turn that script off?
[08:14] <razer> hhp2k: But I still have to go under restrt?icted drivers after that right and enable it righ
[08:15] <ubuntu_old> jamisnemo "set -x"  ???
[08:15] <hhp2k> razer: Here's how we can test that though. Try running a graphics-intensive screensaver and see if it runs fast.
[08:15] <n2diy> jamisnemo: comment it out?
[08:15] <hhp2k> razer: If it does, then you should be fine.
[08:15] <jamisnemo> chmod -x apache2  for example
[08:15] <ubuntu_old> jamisnemo "set -x"  in a bash script is for debugging
[08:15] <hhp2k> spa_light: I'm getting loopback errors on the ubuntu website.. server might be having issues
[08:15] <jamisnemo> n2diy: comment it out from where?
[08:16] <n2diy> jamisnemo: in the script file.
[08:16] <Kyokuz> how big should my extended and swap partitions be if my drive is 465GB?
[08:16] <wm_eddie> Kyokuz: How much ram do you have?
[08:16] <xTheGoat121x> Is there a way to end a startup .sh script so I don't have it sitting, zombie like, in my system resources?
[08:16] <dave27> hi
[08:16] <Kyokuz> 2GB
[08:16] <Caelum> I tried to upgrade a machine to feisty, now it's stuck at "Loading please wait..." what do I do?
[08:16] <ubuntu_old> jamisnemo oh.  you mean make it not executable.   no there is a more official way.   man update-rc.d
[08:16] <administrator> 1651
[08:16] <n2diy> Caelum: wait?
[08:16] <wm_eddie> Kyokuz: 2 to 4 would be good then.
[08:17] <ubuntu_old> jamisnemo oh.  or that may even be outdated...
[08:17] <wm_eddie> or less if you don't need it.
[08:17] <jamisnemo> ubuntu_old: hrm
[08:17] <Kyokuz> ok cool, thanks
[08:17] <Caelum> n2diy: tried that
[08:17] <razer>  hhp2k: ok, I ran he x.org legacy driver from the manager and now enabled it in restricted drivers.
[08:17] <razer> hhp2k: it says computer needs restart.
[08:17] <tr0gd0r> anyway to get my network interface to get more than 1 ip from dhcp?
[08:18] <ubuntu_old> jamisnemo however just making it non-executable should work.    and the right way is the way that you choose
[08:18] <n2diy> Caelum: then maybe some boot options, like nodma?
[08:18] <hhp2k> razer: Okay. Go ahead and restart it, it should be fine. If it refuses to start though, you may need to redo that xorg configuration again. If you need the monitor values, go to http://www.ciao.co.uk/Samsung_SyncMaster_753_DF__5392818. I have to leave, so good luck =)
[08:18] <jamisnemo> ubuntu_old: Alrighty thanks.
[08:18] <Kud> what's the ew channel for beryl support?
[08:18] <Kud> new*
[08:18] <razer> hhp2k: ok, thanks a lot
[08:18] <razer> hhp2k: you are a good person
[08:18] <hhp2k> razer: You're welcome, thank you =D
[08:18] <ubuntu_old> so i need a lilo guru    of a general linux guru.    lilo error  "Floating point exception"
[08:19] <MeRodent> Kud, #compiz-fusion
[08:19] <Kud> ty
[08:20] <MasterShrek> ubuntu_01d, check in #slackware cuz slack uses lilo, they would probably have a better idea
[08:20] <n2diy> ubuntu_old: you might have better luck in #ubuntu-kernel?
[08:20] <dissecti1n> When I insert CDs, it does not get mounted. When I click on the CD-ROM icon in "Computer", a window pops up saying, "Unable to mount selected volume. mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist". How do I fix this?
[08:21] <yoopernate2004> dissecti1n: have you tried to manually mount the cd in the commandline?
[08:21] <dissecti1n> yoopernate2004: how do I do that?
[08:21] <Dark> Hello all.
[08:22] <xTheGoat121x> evenin dark
[08:22] <yoopernate2004> sudo mount /dev/cdrom and then the path you want to mount it to normally like /media/cdrom
[08:22] <Bars-Teic> !ru
[08:22] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:23] <xTheGoat121x> whoa.... ubotu just freaked out on us
[08:23] <dissecti1n> yoopernate2004: It says /dev/cdrom does not exist
[08:23] <druke> what channel is linuxmce at?
[08:23] <yoopernate2004> do you know the path name to your cdrom drive?
[08:24] <hhp2k> xTheGoat121x: Yeah.. that was pretty awesome.
[08:24] <xTheGoat121x> hhp2k, I didn't know he could speak Russian
[08:24] <dissecti1n> yoopernate2004: Nope
[08:24] <hhp2k> xTheGoat121x: me neither
[08:24] <yoopernate2004> ls
[08:24] <yoopernate2004> oops
[08:25] <xTheGoat121x> hhp2k, I wonder what other languages he can speak?  hehe
[08:25] <sadmin> n2diy i want passwd change at time of 1 login
[08:25] <sadmin> and prompt again afetr 2 months to change passwd
[08:25] <sadmin> any idea
[08:26] <sadmin> we can do it in ubuntu thats confirmed
[08:26] <Dark> Is there a way to select what Video card I would like to use for the install of Ubuntu? Cant disable onboard. No jumpers, or xp os, or bios option. So is there a way to change the card in the xserver?
[08:26] <yoopernate2004> ok cd into your media directory and see if you can see any cdrom drives?
[08:26] <druke> I am running a dhcp server on a box. said box has two ethernet cards and internet goes though the other one. When i go to plug my laptop into the slot dhcp is running on though, nothing happens, my laptops light doesn't come on or anything to detect the cord. (I know the cord works b/c i can plug it into my router and the lights come on)
[08:27] <n2diy> sadmin: so you want the passwd to change every two months?
[08:27] <eck> Dark: you should change it in the xserver
[08:27] <eck> Dark: just add the card and change your screne layout to use that card instead
[08:27] <eck> afaik you can't do it during the install
[08:27] <Jordan_U> Dark, I know this doesn't help much but  I know there is a way, I just don't know how :(
[08:27] <sadmin> yes when user login ubuntu says 50 day remains to passwd expire
[08:27] <Dark> Eck: Whats the command to show the pci bus info?
[08:27] <eck> Dark: lspci
[08:28] <Dark> ok so it is the ssame as others ty
[08:28] <n2diy> sadmin: so your good to go! Or do you want it to change for every log in?
[08:28] <Wolf23> somebody help me!
[08:29] <sadmin> no no not on every login
[08:29] <sadmin> on 1 login and then after 2 month it prompt to change passwd
[08:29] <sadmin> and maintain 3 good passwd history
[08:29] <n2diy> sadmin: include my nick when you reply, or my bell won't ring, and I'll miss it.
[08:29] <dissecti2n> yoopernate2004: There is cdrom and cdrom0
[08:30] <frostburn> dissecti2n, cdrom0 is a symlink to cdrom
[08:30] <frostburn> or vise versa
[08:30] <TnA> I need help.
[08:30] <Frostex> Hi there, how can i force mount my drive with -ntsf. it is saying it cannot read the filesystem type. but i know it was formatted NTSF
[08:30] <dissecti2n> frostburn: Neither of them have any files in them
[08:31] <frostburn> dissecti2n, your cd isn't mounted then
[08:31] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me get compiz running the desktop effect can't be enabled and i dont know why
[08:31] <dissecti2n> frostburn: How do I mount?
[08:31] <Pirate_Hunter> PS: the compiz channel has many ppl but no one actually the :(
[08:31] <TnA> Okay heres the situation I'm using the alternate feisty fawn cd to upgrade my ubuntu, I placed the CD in and the update manager opened, now it's installing and removing software. What software? Is that the upgrade?
[08:32] <dissecti2n> frostburn: I typed sudo mount /media/cdrom and it says its not found in /etc/fstab
[08:32] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, Do you get an error?
[08:32] <yoopernate2004> TnA: when the cd gets done you should have the upgrade
[08:32] <frostburn> dissecti2n, most commands are in $man mount,  but for a cd $mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[08:32] <yoopernate2004> SHOULD being the key phrase in there
[08:32] <TnA> yoopernate2004, It's that easy?!?!
[08:32] <yoopernate2004> generally
[08:32] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: everytime I try to enable desktop effects it just gives me it cnat be enabled which is weird
[08:32] <TnA> OMFG I LOVE IT!
[08:32] <yoopernate2004> ubuntu = the much better than windows
[08:32] <Caelum> was I not supposed to upgrade to feisty by using apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:33] <Frostex> Ok, how can i force mount my drive NTSF, it is saying it cannot read the filesystem type. but i know it was formated NTSF ages ago
[08:33] <frostburn> dissecti2n, you have to tell mount where the device is located /dev/cdrom then tell it where to mount the file system, in this case /media/cdrom
[08:33] <tafkaz> hi there. I am trying to install ubuntu-feisty server on a computer with an ASUS M2N-VM DVI Motherboard. directly at the beginning (after the language option) it tells me, that it cannot find my cdrom. My DVD is a SATA-Samsung DVDR
[08:33] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, Nothing else to the error? just "Can't enable desktop effects" ?
[08:33] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: yup thats all it shows nothing more
[08:33] <dissecti2n> frostburn: Tried that, and it says special device /dev/cdrom does not exist
[08:34] <TnA> Anyone know if ubuntu is supporting drivers for the xbox360 console systems yet?
[08:34] <frostburn> dissecti2n, it might be /dev/cdr
[08:34] <yoopernate2004> dissecti2n: are you on a laptop or desktop?
[08:34] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: is it normal for the upgrade manager to be showing the same upgrade that i have installed 3 times i.e. compiz-core
[08:34] <dissecti2n> yoopernate2004: That doesn't exist either
[08:35] <yoopernate2004> dowhat now?
[08:35] <dissecti2n> yoopernate2004: Laptop
[08:35] <TnA> TnA ! Compiz
[08:35] <TnA> !compiz
[08:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:35] <nbjayme> help.... i cannot find correct driver for epson stylus c90.... (ubuntu fiesty)..
[08:35] <yoopernate2004> no are you using a laptop or a desktop?
[08:35] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, No, try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and look very carefully if it proposes removing anything before you type 'y'
[08:35] <dissecti2n> Huh?
[08:35] <tafkaz> Nvidia GeForce7050PV/nForce630a(MCP68PVNT) <- that is the chipset of the board
[08:35] <dissecti2n> yoopernate2004: Laptop
[08:35] <niina> What is "Python" most commonly used for? Just apps in Unix/Linux envioriments?
[08:36] <Frostex> Ok, how can i force mount my drive NTSF, it is saying it cannot read the filesystem type. but i know it was formated NTSF ages ago
[08:36] <nbjayme> anybody here configured epson stylus c90 successfully?
[08:36] <yoopernate2004> ok, never mind then...hehehe...i was gunna suggest making sure the drive was plugged in
[08:36] <yoopernate2004> is there anything in /dev that looks like it could be a cdrom drive?
[08:36] <Jordan_U> FrancoGG, mount -t ntfs
[08:36] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: kk tell you in a sec
[08:36] <Jordan_U> FrancoGG, Or for RW, "mount -t ntfs-3g"
[08:37] <tafkaz> yoopernate2004: was that question for me ?
[08:37] <dissecti2n> yoopernate2004: Uh, there's ptycd and ttycd
[08:37] <tafkaz> uh...no i guess
[08:37] <xTheGoat121x> niina, I've seen python used in Windows too
[08:37] <yoopernate2004> dissecti2n: you can try and mount those...i'm not really sure...
[08:38] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: how do i authenticate compiz-core, it keeps coming up, I ignored it twice but i think that might be the problem
[08:39] <yoopernate2004> dissecti2n: my /dev has 4 folders cdrom cdrw and dvd and dvdrw if you need something to look for
[08:39] <frostburn> dissecti2n, type $lsmod |grep cdrom
[08:39] <yoopernate2004> hunter: do you have compiz fusion?
[08:40] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, Did you add a third party repository?
[08:40] <beanage> Pirate_Hunter, have you tried asking someone in the #ubuntu-effects channel?
[08:40] <niina> xTheGoat121x: oh really, thats cool, just wondering ^^
[08:40] <Wolf23> help please?
[08:40] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: yeah to be able to get compiz on my system
[08:40] <yoopernate2004> i know that when the compiz fusion icon USED to have a bug that said compiz core or something along those lines always needed an update
[08:40] <yoopernate2004> but I don't know if it has gotten fixed since I looked into it
[08:40] <dissection> frostburn: It didn't find anything when I typed that
[08:40] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, You don't need extra repos for compiz, it comes installed by default in Feisty
[08:41] <Pirate_Hunter> beanage: no comiz just takes over the effects in ubuntu but has nothing to do with effects if that makes any logical sense
[08:41] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, #ubuntu-effects is for Compiz help...
[08:41] <frostburn> dissection, my guess is the kernel can't find your cd drive, it could be disconnected or not recognized(not sure why it wouldn't)
[08:42] <yoopernate2004> i know that fiesty used to have some issues with my hardware but everything SHOULD be ironed out by now
[08:42] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: ive been following instructions on this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion and ill pop over there to see if there are actually ppl active
[08:42] <dissection> frostburn: Its a blu-ray rewriter, but should have no problems reading CDs and DVDs. I installed Ubuntu using this drive. It also works with no problem in Windows.
[08:42] <xTheGoat121x> niina, no problem.
[08:43] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, You know that you don't need Compiz fusion if you just want compiz right?
[08:43] <frostburn> dissection, try $modprobe cdrom     then tell me what $dmesg |tail -1 says
[08:44] <Caelum> ok, how do I debug this "Loading please wait..." freeze on boot
[08:44] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: nope didnt know... i watched the videos online liked it and after using google followed instructions from that site
[08:44] <Caelum> I guess I can boot from knoppix and check the logs
[08:44] <dissection> frostburn: it says => [25423.668000]  wlan0: no IPv6 routers present
[08:45] <crazycrazy> hey, how do I get my microphone working?
[08:45] <Hornet`> Could someone please lend a hand getting my display back into AIGXL mode? :(
[08:45] <lalala> compiz fusion is far better than norma compiz in 7.04
[08:45] <chovy> how do i install a pkg?
[08:45] <frostburn> dissection  that's really odd, maybe a kernel update messed it up
[08:45] <chovy> or make a pkg rather
[08:45] <lalala> normal)
[08:45] <dissection> :[
[08:45] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, Yea,all you needed to do for the most basic effects was go to System -> Preferences -> Desktop Effects, and for more just needed to install the extra compiz packages :)
[08:45] <crazycrazy> How do I get my microphone working?
[08:45] <tafkaz> noone ???
[08:45] <dissection> frostburn: Anything I can do, to fix it?
[08:46] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: just like the compiz channel they are not active dang this is annoying
[08:46] <ch3ckm8e> hi guys, I have a question: Earlier I was able to use my Atheros based wireless card fine but just after a shutdown It has stopped working. So far, I've tried reinstalling the madwifi drivers but in the end i could not succesfully modprobe ath_pci. I checked dmesg and there is no log of any pcmcia device. Any help?
[08:46] <Caelum> crazycrazy: check alsamixer, make sure it's not muted
[08:46] <yoopernate2004> dissection: you can try to load up the old kernal and see if it works in there
[08:46] <ax7> Hi
[08:46] <perl_cont> sup
[08:46] <yevg> i'm trying to install ruby on rails on an ubuntu machine (command line, no UI) -- i'm logged in as root -- what's best practice of how to install? should i download all of the files to the root home folder, or should i make a new account and work from there?
[08:46] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter how did u get compizfusion ?
[08:46] <crazycrazy> What's alsomixer?
[08:46] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: so what do i do now? should i unnistall it than
[08:46] <ax7> ok
[08:46] <perl_cont> ??
[08:46] <chovy> ubuntu.com is down?
[08:46] <Caelum> crazycrazy: alsamixer is a command
[08:46] <JoaoRic> what install grub in the ubuntu, where hd = SATA?
[08:46] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, You might want to remove the repository you added, remove all the compiz packages then install the *stable* Compiz packages that come with Feisty
[08:47] <crazycrazy> *alsamixer
[08:47] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: followed instructions from this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[08:47] <chovy> "irefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete."
[08:47] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: checking
[08:47] <Malcovich> I'm running out of ideas to get my wireless working on Feisty. Been banging my head on it for about 8 hours. Tried everything I can find mentioned online. Been thru the iwconfig, ifconfig, ndiswrapper. Any ideas? (New to linux, fairly computer savvy.  One is the rt61 (I think.)
[08:48] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: *really
[08:48] <Jordan_U> Chousuke, Sorry, that was to chovy
[08:48] <frostburn> dissection, not sure, i don't have any experience with bluray, hopefully it will be fixed by gutsy.
[08:49] <beanage> does gutsy have a release date?
[08:49] <frostburn> 18th
[08:49] <gpm> hey guys, helvetica shows up for me in xfontsel but not in gnome appearance prefs, any clues?
[08:49] <AJ--1> 7 more days for gutsy
[08:49] <Malcovich> One card is pcmcia. One is usb. Both seem detected. Only the USB shows the available access points.
[08:49] <beanage> wow two days after I deploy to iraq.. lame
[08:49] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, If you wait a week you can just upgrade to 7.10 which will have Compiz Fusion installed, and enabled, by default
[08:49] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: did the normal desktop effect worked in your machine ?
[08:49] <frostburn> beanage, go grab it now, it's fairly stable
[08:49] <xTheGoat121x> .... CF enabled by default?  Boy, that's crazy.
[08:49] <dissecti1n> frostburn: Could my nVidia driver have messed up the kernel to stop the cdrom from working?
[08:50] <Jordan_U> beanage, I'd just like to say thank you :)
[08:50] <Malcovich> Neither will pull a dhcp. But static doesn't work either. Best I can tell. I may be setting it up wrong. Access points both workign fine on multiple other machines. Including an Ubuntyu on my other laptop.
[08:50] <frostburn> dissecti1n, i highly doubt it
[08:50] <beanage> frostburn, I didn't relize that was possable. I'm on it.
[08:50] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: lol i udnerstand what you mean but than after spending all this time... i might as well continue and once gutsy comes out im doing a clean install on my empty partition
[08:50] <frostburn> beanage, update-manager -d
[08:50] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, Then go for it and have fun :)
[08:51] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter:  ?
[08:51] <AJ--1> Malcovich: try this ---> http://www.linux.com/feature/56946
[08:51] <abhibera> hi i am facing a strange problem. i have started nautilus as root from the command line and i hit delete on some files. i suspect they went to the trash. how do i find the trash for root?
[08:51] <tafkaz> pleas...i am really stuck...and i cant find anything in google on this
[08:51] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: its better if we have fun together
[08:51] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: what's the problem?
[08:51] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: did the normal desktop effect worked in your machine ?
[08:51] <ch3ckm8e> hi guys, if i install a driver and use a different /usr/src/ directory than what 'uname -r' echoes will it malfunction?
[08:51] <frostburn> abhibera, turn on hidden folders in nautilus and look for a folder called .trash
[08:51] <rcard> ?
[08:51] <frostburn> in /root/
[08:51] <Hornet`> Could someone please lend me a hand getting my display back into AIGXL mode? A needed kernel upgrade has knocked it out, and nothing from Google seems to want to put it back again.
[08:52] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: wouldnt know never used it, never needed it until now "I know where you getting at"
[08:52] <xTheGoat121x> You know, either they really improved the drivers and CF itself, or Gutsy is just going to cause a LOT of problems.
[08:52] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: does your machine support direct rendering?
[08:52] <AJ--1> Malcovich: if still doesnt solve ur problem.. try this ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[08:53] <dissecti1n> What happened to ubuntu.com?
[08:53] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, I don't know if that repository has a pgp key, if it doesn't then you can ignore the warning about not being able to authenticate, it's a security thing, but it's no less secure than downloading any program from a site that doesn't use https, which is most of them :)
[08:53] <AJ--> dissecti1n: y? ubuntu.com seems to work find at my end here
[08:53] <Malcovich> AJ--1. I'm quite a bit past the basic stage. I've even had a fairly competent linux guy over to help out. No luck. I've been past the basic stuff.
[08:53] <lee__> eh wahts the gutsy server?
[08:54] <dissection> AJ--: It says "Firefox has detected that the server is redirected the request for this address in a way that will never complete."
[08:54] <joseph> Anybody know if wireless support in Ubuntu 7.10 is better than it was in 7.04?
[08:54] <dissection> *redirecting
[08:54] <dissection> joseph: It should be better
[08:54] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: I think so but im not certain im using default graphics card and I'm not the person who is usually interested in all the fancy effects tilll now so i dont know
[08:54] <george2002> hola
[08:54] <new> hi guys
[08:54] <sadmin> helo
[08:54] <sadmin> any idea
[08:54] <sadmin> guys
[08:54] <Jordan_U> joseph, For what chipset?
[08:54] <joseph> How do I send a message to someone in here?
[08:54] <sadmin> its some thing with pam
[08:54] <sadmin> ithink
[08:55] <Jordan_U> joseph, /msg nick message
[08:55] <crazycrazy> OK, when I run sound recorder, it says "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the multimedia settings"
[08:55] <new> i was installing octave but console gives me this error
[08:55] <new> configure: WARNING: I couldn't find -ltermcap, -lterminfo, -lncurses, -lcurses, or -ltermlib!
[08:55] <new> checking for rl_set_keyboard_input_timeout in -lreadline... no
[08:55] <new> configure: WARNING: I need GNU Readline 4.2 or later
[08:55] <new> configure: error: this is fatal unless you specify --disable-readline
[08:55] <crazycrazy> What do I do?
[08:55] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: true heck im getting it from the actuall site so i dont mind
[08:55] <abhibera> frostburn: thanks :)
[08:55] <new> who can help me to fix it?
[08:55] <abhibera> new: what is octave?
[08:55] <Jordan_U> joseph, Many people don't like to get private messages though
[08:55] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: $ glxinfo | grep direct     try that in terminal and see if it says yes
[08:55] <AJ--> dissection:  try clearing ur private data.. coz its working find my end
[08:55] <new> abhibera, a program similar to matlab
[08:55] <lee__> is running x  taht I got form the disk it has awesome awesome features in this one case unlike the other x i ws running it has my name down in the lower left by the clock
[08:55] <Malcovich> When I call dhclient, after the ra0 (or wlan0) up, config, then down. THe dhcp is just timing out. My iwconfig shows a 0/100 link quality. I don't think the dhcp is ever actually really trying.
[08:55] <dissection> AJ--: Still the same. I checked after someone else in this channel reported the same problem.
[08:56] <frostburn> AJ--, hit shift f5 on it not working for me either
[08:56] <mrak> !maplyer plugin
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maplyer plugin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <abhibera> new: wow! i must get me octave
[08:56] <new> !matlab
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about matlab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <crazycrazy> Hey, something's wrong iwth my microphone
[08:56] <lee__> any how
[08:56] <Malcovich> I'm sorry. Down, config, then up. Long day. :)
[08:56] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: last time i tired that it blacked out my screen and put me back in login screen, will try again dont go anywhere even if i seem offline will be back
[08:56] <mrak> !mplayer plugin
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplayer plugin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <rcard> !grub
[08:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:56] <lee__> wahts the guts channel?
[08:56] <mrak> !mplayer
[08:56] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[08:56] <crazycrazy> screw it
[08:56] <frostburn> lee__, #ubuntu+1
[08:56] <abhibera> new: never used octave
[08:56] <abhibera> !octave
[08:56] <Jordan_U> !botabuse | mrak
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about octave - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <new> does nobody can help me pls?
[08:56] <ubotu> mrak: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:56] <joseph> I am really frustrated I spent 2 days trying to get my wireless working in Ubuntu following all the stuff on the web and never could get it then I tried PCLinux OS and it worked fine but I prefer Ubuntu
[08:56] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: k
[08:56] <lee__> thanks frostburn...hey werhent you just htere lol
[08:56] <new> abhibera, me too ... i cant install it
[08:56] <abhibera> new: maybe u should google Octave+Ubuntu
[08:57] <lee__> eh i was oem
[08:57] <abhibera> new: i'm sure someone has done it
[08:57] <Jordan_U> joseph, What chipset?
[08:57] <joseph> Jordan_U It's Broadcom
[08:57] <dissection> joseph: You could try installing a windows driver using ndiswrapper. Thats the only thing that worked for me.
[08:57] <abhibera> new: how r u installing it? from apt or ur using a script?
[08:57] <frostburn> lee__, i'm still there
[08:57] <abhibera> new: chances are u are doing it as a normal user
[08:57] <new> abhibera, from source code ...
[08:57] <abhibera> new: do a sudo
[08:57] <xTheGoat121x> Bot abuse?
[08:57] <new> abhibera, wih sudo
[08:57] <abhibera> new: u mean ./configure and make?????
[08:57] <new> *with
[08:57] <new> abhibera, yes
[08:57] <joseph> I tried Ndiswrapper and I could see access points but they weren't scanning and no signal
[08:58] <Jordan_U> joseph, How could it possibly work by default? It's illegal to distribute the needed firmware.
[08:58] <lee__> erg frst your all over the place
[08:58] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: again it blacked out my screen and got me into login screen, so what does that mean?
[08:58] <abhibera> new: i think u should see if octave is available in the ubuntu repository or some debian repository
[08:58] <abhibera> new: then u should do an apt-get install octave
[08:58] <Jordan_U> joseph, Did you try just installing the bcm43xx-fwcutter package?
[08:58] <joseph> Jordan it asked for the windows driver on the install and I specified that so it definately used ndiswrapper
[08:58] <abhibera> new: helping u compile octave is beyond the scope of this channel
[08:58] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: your VGA isnt setup correctly
[08:59] <new> abhibera, lol i didnt think to fing it on apt
[08:59] <new> haha
[08:59] <Jordan_U> joseph, Not necessarily, it could have just used the firmware from the driver
[08:59] <Jordan_U> joseph, That is what Gutsy does
[08:59] <abhibera> new: yes its available on apt
[08:59] <heaven> Kstars Kicks ass man cool stuff here :D
[08:59] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: :w so how can I set it up
[08:59] <abhibera> new: get it by doing sudo apt-get install octave
[08:59] <varka> joseph: as i told you, you dont have to use ndiswrapper, there is a native linux driver for your broadcom chipset
[08:59] <joseph> I wish I knew how they got it to work in PCLinux OS so I could do that in Ubuntu
[08:59] <varka> joseph: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[08:59] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: what type of card do u have ?
[09:00] <efx2k3> anyone have a good irc client that works within terminal?
[09:00] <abhibera> new: that's the beauty of ubuntu. there's a huge repository out there of precompiled packages
[09:00] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: ati nvidia ?
[09:00] <Jordan_U> joseph, "sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter"
[09:00] <Flannel> efx2k3: irssi
[09:00] <joseph> I tried that link Varka and coudln't get it
[09:00] <abhibera> new: so u can SAVE time :)
[09:00] <Jordan_U> joseph, That is all you need to do
[09:00] <dissecti1n> efx2k3: irssi
[09:00] <efx2k3> thanks
[09:00] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: have no clue :(
[09:00] <dissection> efx2k3: irssi or BitchX. I prefer irssi
[09:00] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: :)
[09:00] <efx2k3> thanks :)
[09:01] <Jordan_U> joseph, Or in Gutsy you would be prompted that restricted firmware is required and it would offer to download it for you or ask for the path to the driver ( only so it can extract the firmware from it )
[09:01] <joseph> So Jordan with thatr do I need windows drivers? And does it do WPA
[09:01] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: how can I find out
[09:01] <varka> joseph: what you didnt get? the link didnt work?
[09:01] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: if u dont know your hardware i cant help u :/
[09:01] <abhibera> i haven't been fiddling with audio and video codecs on my machine. can any one help me out with that?
[09:01] <joseph> No Varka it just sat there
[09:01] <abhibera> abhibera: i want all codecs installed
[09:01] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: erhm dang I knew that's what you would say
[09:02] <varka> ...
[09:02] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: no1 will help u "/
[09:02] <Jordan_U> joseph, You don't need Windows drivers, I don't know about WPA, but if it worked in PCLinux it should work the same in Ubuntu ( they use the same driver )
[09:02] <xTheGoat121x> So who in here has used Gutsy yet?
[09:02] <yoopernate2004> abhibera: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:02] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: but seriously how do I find out what graphics card ive got
[09:02] <yoopernate2004> will get and configure everything
[09:02] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, System -> Preferences -> Hardware Info
[09:02] <abhibera> yoopernate2004: and how much space u think i would require for it?
[09:02] <yoopernate2004> i don't know
[09:02] <AJ--> im an online gamer.. does ubuntu support online games like ragnarok and some othere MMORPG???
[09:02] <chowmeined> so
[09:03] <yoopernate2004> i never really worry about it
[09:03] <joseph> I also have a PC with a Ralink 2500 chipset that I couldn't get to work
[09:03] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: u need to find your hardware and setup your vga so u have direct rendering enable for compiz to work
[09:03] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: on this kind of days i miss windows
[09:03] <abhibera> yoopernate2004: no it didn't work for me. am i missing out some repo?
[09:03] <lalala> fr
[09:03] <chowmeined> why doesnt it seem like many things use upstart?
[09:03] <chowmeined> almost all the init scripts are still sysvinit
[09:03] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: from manual maybe ?
[09:03] <yoopernate2004> open up the package manager and search for restricted
[09:03] <Jordan_U> !games | AJ--
[09:03] <ubotu> AJ--: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:03] <joseph> I'm pretty much convinced that it has to be something I'm doing though
[09:03] <heaven> hey pirate i mean i got tons of trouble with ubuntu, but ummm il never get back to windows
[09:04] <chowmeined> not many things use upstart*
[09:04] <lalala> is it a desktop machine or laptop ?
[09:04] <AJ--> Pirate_Hunter: it realy scares me to go back in windows especialy encountering the bluescreen in vista
[09:04] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: nah that junk got me junk and its a default graphics card
[09:04] <Pirate_Hunter> AJ--: youll get use to it, youllget used to it
[09:04] <abhibera> yoopernate2004: i'm on edgy
[09:04] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: is it a desktop machime or laptop ?
[09:05] <abhibera> yoopernate2004: and i have the restricted repositories enabled
[09:05] <joseph> Well goodnight all thanks for all the tips. I guess I'll have to give another shot at it when 7.10 comes out
[09:06] <riotkittie> arrrrrgh.  why is grub being so eeeeeeevil to poor little me.
[09:06] <m1r> riotkittie , what is problem ?
[09:06] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: desktop
[09:06] <Jordan_U> riotkittie, Government conspiracy to piss you off, by the people who killed kennedy
[09:06] <riotkittie> Jordan_U: i should have known
[09:07] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: do u know whats the cpu is ?
[09:07] <heaven> umm i got no sound with XMMS but i do have sistem sounds anyone can help me for one sec please?
[09:07] <GarryFre> If at first you don't suceed, skydiving is not for you.
[09:07] <eck> does anyone know if postfix runs in a chroot on ubuntu? it's having problems finding the sasl socket
[09:07] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: intel pentium 4 (r) 3.2GHZ thats all i know
[09:07] <riotkittie> m1r: i just installed another distro. i am trying to edit menu.lst and add it. i have done that twice. each time i save, and reboot... it's not on my menu
[09:07] <xTheGoat121x> riotkittie, b/c Grub is evil.
[09:07] <Jordan_U> riotkittie, I may have said too much
[09:08] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: wheer do I find the graphics card in the hardware information
[09:08] <beanage> !LVM
[09:08] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:08] <new> guys i have a problem with keybord ... special caracthers doesnt work ... who can help me? this is an errore that appears everytime i start my pc http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/773/
[09:08] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: when the machine boots from cold start not from restart the first think it shows on screen is the VGA type
[09:09] <Jordan_U> riotkittie, Everything I said before was joke, russian spy not try kill you
[09:09] <Malcovich> I need somebody with some real wireless chops. I've been thru the online tutorials etc... Had an intermediate linux guy over to help. No luck. I've got an RaLink RT2561/RT61. Anyone?
[09:09] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: lol not this one it hasnt done that in a long time
[09:09] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: u can try that to identify your CGA
[09:09] <beanage> jordan_U, lmao
[09:09] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: VGA )
[09:10] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: never closed ?
[09:10] <riotkittie> Malcovich: i have an rtsomething or other. i suggest you buy a gun and shoot yours. err. i mean, what exactly are you having problems with?
[09:10] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: im to do that but finding it hard and so far im getting agp
[09:10] <riotkittie> Jordan_U: then what's that man doing in my fridge? >|
[09:10] <AJ--> Jordan_U: so WOW & ragnarok 2 cant  be played in linux?? coz its not on list there
[09:10] <Malcovich> riotkittie: Won't see the access points. Won't pull a dhcp ip address.
[09:10] <frostburn> AJ--, you can play wow
[09:11] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: it will show the VGA for a short time try to catch the info
[09:11] <Malcovich> Two different working access points. One of which I'm using to type this.
[09:11] <Jordan_U> AJ--, No, they just aren't native, I know that WoW at least can be played with wine
[09:11] <AJ--> hmmm i tried counterstrike b4 but cant get online..
[09:11] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: you mean 1-2 secs thanx to grub it doesnt show most of the times
[09:11] <AJ--> tnx a lot guys
[09:11] <Flannel> AJ--: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[09:12] <beanage> gotta run a windows emu
[09:12] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: its the first think that show on screen and after is bios and last its crub
[09:13] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: its the first thing*
[09:13] <ubuntu_> does anyone know if the chip on a toshiba satellite hdd on bottom side if u need it for a new hdd for the comp or if they all come with the chip on the bottom of the hdd?
[09:13] <AJ--> i triend installing some online games in wine.. but gameguard wont load.. most of the MORPG now are having this some antihacking stuffs that bugging the wine to work..
[09:13] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: could this be it 662/761Gx PCIE VGA display adapter?
[09:14] <beanage> If you install using the alternate feisty cd, will it setup your xserver gui too?
[09:14] <Flannel> beanage: yes (or, you'll have the option anyway)
[09:14] <beanage> kk
[09:14] <beanage> flannel, thanks
[09:14] <serenityUK> ubuntu_, HDD are usually self contained units, u shouldn't have to do any more than connect power and data cables
[09:14] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: on this SiS machine sometimes its the logo image than that for a quick time and afterwards grub - but than i siad sometimes it shows
[09:15] <beanage> flannel, just as I asked you the config xserver-xorg launched haha
[09:15] <murlidhar_> need a torrent file . for gutsy alternate cd . can't find it on net
[09:15] <beanage> murlidhar one sec
[09:15] <beanage> I got it
[09:15] <ubuntu_> serenityUK: this is for a laptop it had a chip as big and wide s the hdd was
[09:15] <riotkittie> Malcovich: you might want to take the easy road and go the ndiswrapper route, if you haven't given that a shot
[09:15] <Malcovich> riotkittie: I have in fact tried that. Same results.
[09:15] <Fido> anybody know how to instll Stardict
[09:16] <murlidhar_> beanage: i will wait
[09:16] <beanage> murlidhar_, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download make sure you check the box on the bottom
[09:16] <Malcovich> riotkittie. I actually have another wireless card. A usb linksys. Can't get that one working either. Though that one can see the access points.
[09:16] <Jordan_U> Fido, It's in the repos
[09:16] <Jordan_U> Fido, Install it just like any other application
[09:16] <heaven> do i need to install video drivers after ubuntu instalation? and how
[09:16] <beanage> murlidhar_, check the box that says alternate cd
[09:16] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: if it is a sis u are in bad luck to work with compiz
[09:16] <riotkittie> Malcovich: is the linksys also a ralink?
[09:17] <Fido> Jordon,thx
[09:17] <Malcovich> riotkittie: Don't think so. I can pop it in and see.
[09:17] <murlidhar_> beanage: yes ofcourse how silly of me . just overlooked it
[09:17] <Jordan_U> heaven, You can check if you need to, and install them if you do, by going to System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manger
[09:17] <serenityUK> ubuntu_, u mean on the bottom of the HD itself?  you're not meant to fiddle with that stuff or void warrenty
[09:17] <riotkittie> usb wifi adapters + linux = head/desk
[09:17] <serenityUK> ubuntu_, hd come with various chips that we don't bother with
[09:17] <beanage> murlidhar_, np, man your the first person I've been able to help with personal exp. haha =D
[09:18] <Malcovich> riotkittie: Yeah. Apparently so do Airlink 101 ralinks.
[09:18] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: 0_o hmmm well i guess so still just wanted to try it out well now you cna help me unninstll compiz fusion form my box :)
[09:18] <sslashes> does anyone know how to send keyboard input from the command line, something like sendkey ESC, and it will act as if someone hit ESC on the system keyboard?
[09:18] <murlidhar_> beanage: but it is fesity not gutsy:(
[09:18] <ubuntu_> serenityUK:  yes on the hdd hd a chip screwd into the hdd on the bottom i need to know when i get a new hdd if it will have the chip
[09:18] <Jordan_U> sslashes, I know how to do it in Java :)
[09:18] <serenityUK> ubuntu_, yes, u on;l
[09:19] <abhibera> how can i request a Ubuntu 7.10 CD/DVD?
[09:19] <serenityUK> ubuntu_, yes, u only have to worry about cables*
[09:19] <Jordan_U> !shipit | abhibera
[09:19] <ubotu> abhibera: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs
[09:19] <ubuntu_> serenityUK: thnks
[09:19] <riotkittie> Malcovich: if it's any consolation, and you're willing to upgrade in about a week, 7.10 does seem to handle ralinks better. not great, but better. :
[09:19] <abhibera> Jordan_U: but i want 7.10 not fiesty
[09:19] <riotkittie> Malcovich: did you try compiling the serialmonkey drivers > rt2x00.serialmonkey.com (.net?)
[09:20] <sslashes> Jordan_U: =P heh, thats not going to be much help =P, i am basically looking for a frontend program to the xsendevent in the standard xlibrary
[09:20] <riotkittie> abhibera: shipit is offering gutsy cds now.
[09:20] <Jordan_U> abhibera, Just go to shipit.ubuntu.com, they are doing preorders
[09:20] <riotkittie> or atleast they were a few adys back
[09:20] <riotkittie> days*
[09:20] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AIGLX  says your card is not supported
[09:20] <beanage> murlidhar_, okay I know where that is too.
[09:20] <abhibera> wowIE!!! :)
[09:20] <Malcovich> riotkittie: No. I found them, moved on to ndis. I'm NEW on linux. Compiling and installing those drivers was over my head.
[09:20] <riotkittie> Malcovich: was over mine, as well.
[09:20] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: why you want to unistall it ?
[09:20] <murlidhar_> beanage: where is it then :)
[09:20] <abhibera> is there anyway i can make a Ubuntu repository mirror for my office?
[09:21] <Jordan_U> abhibera, Yes
[09:21] <beanage> murlidhar_, what are you upgrading from?
[09:21] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: help me uninstal compiz-fusion if i can't use it on this box also its a waste of space
[09:21] <abhibera> so that individual machines don't have to download updates from the main server?
[09:21] <beanage> murlidhar_, in other words do you have feisty already?
[09:21] <murlidhar_> beanage: feisty
[09:21] <abhibera> Jordan_U any tutorial for that? i will read it and build one myself
[09:21] <murlidhar_> beanage: yes
[09:21] <Caelum> maybe upgrading to gutsy will fix my boot hang...
[09:21] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: try #sudo apt-get remove compiz-fusion
[09:22] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: in terminal
[09:22] <Hornet`> Caelum: what computer is it?
[09:22] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: lol yeah in terminal
[09:22] <beanage> murlidhar_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[09:22] <Jordan_U> abhibera, You would use apt-mirror , I'm looking for a good tutorial
[09:22] <Caelum> Hornet`: it's a 2ghz P4
[09:22] <Caelum> Hornet`: dell
[09:22] <Hornet`> Ah, fair enough.
[09:22] <beanage> murlidhar_, does the computer have internet?
[09:23] <Hornet`> Caelum: bootchart.org
[09:23] <frostburn> is there any software that grabs an image off of a webcam using v4l2 (note 2)
[09:23] <murlidhar_> beanage: my internet is not stable that's why i wanted a offline installation
[09:23] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: its worng it cnat find the package with that name
[09:23] <Jordan_U> abhibera, http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror , don't know if it is good or not though
[09:23] <Dark> How compatible is Ubuntu with laptops? Toshiba to be exact.
[09:23] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: let me check
[09:23] <riotkittie> Malcovich:  when you went the ndiswrapper route, did you try the older driver [9x/me]  if it was available? 2k/xp drivers failed for me? I wish I could say something USEFUL b/c I know how much it sucks :P
[09:23] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: thanx