[18:33] <Pelo> tilt, if you have to ask you don'T belong there
[18:33] <bbrooks> Pelo, ok cool..thats what I thought
[18:33] <scunizi> Pelo: aren't those port ranges displayed in most routers for the range of address that dhcp will provide addresses to?  the <IP_ADDRESS> actually determins the total number of addresses.. so you could assign a static ip outside the range of what's listed in the router but inside the range determined by the subnet mask?
[18:33] <tilt> Pelo: hmm
[18:33] <scunizi> Pelo .. port ranges=ip ranges
[18:33] <tilt> that's not very open-minded
[18:33] <Pelo> scunizi, no
[18:34] <tilt> is it secret? :D
[18:35] <Pelo> tilt, there is a difference of purpose between  devellopers channels and support channels, we don'T want ppl seeking help in a  developer channel, it's nto the place for it , no matter how special your problem is , so if you don'T know how to get to a developper channel chances are you have no business there
[18:35] <tilt> Pelo: I need help fixing a bug in ubuntu karmic on phenom cpus regarding ACPI ;)
[18:36] <Pelo> !bugs > tilt
[18:36] <tilt> Pelo: you have anything to say about that?
[18:36] <tilt> obviously not
[18:36] <tilt> and now shush
[18:36] <scunizi> Pelo: that's the way it works in my linksys.. I've limited the number of dhcp'd IP addresses for my network to 20 so the range shown is 100 through 119.. I can still assign static addresses from .002 - 254 excluding the dhcp range
[18:37] <tdizzle86> Hello, can anyone tell me a good 802.11n wireless adapter to use for ubuntu 64bit?
[18:37] <Balsaq> does itunes work in ubuntu?
[18:38] <Pelo> scunizi, but the ips you are sing be them outside the dhcp range are still withing the same "family"  you can't use a  <IP_ADDRESS>5 ip if your range start with  192.168 ....
[18:38] <musikgoat> Balsaq: not natively, but it apparently runs in wine
[18:38] <scunizi> Balsaq: no
[18:38] <Pelo> Balsaq, ther are alternatives,
[18:38] <musikgoat> !appdb | Balsaq
[18:38] <joshua__> Careful what you do with /usr/lib/klibc/bin/nuke
[18:39] <guntbert> joshua__: ??
[18:39] <joshua__> rm checkes for idiots trying to remove / recursively these days
[18:39] <scunizi> Pelo: that's very true.. never mentioned otherwise.. you always have to maintain the same subnet unless you have equipment to do a vlan
[18:39] <joshua__> nuke does rm -rf on its arguments and doesn't check for nuke /
[18:39] <Balsaq> ok thank you muskigoat scunizi pelo
[18:39] <tdizzle86> Hello, can anyone tell me a good 802.11n wireless adapter to use for ubuntu 64
[18:39] <Pelo> scunizi, so lafleur- question of forwarding a port to the mask (255 ...) would not have worked,  ...
[18:40] <Pelo> !hardware _ tdizzle86
[18:40] <Pelo> !hardware -  tdizzle86
[18:40] <Pelo> damit
[18:40] <Pelo> !hardware
[18:40] <musikgoat> Pelo:  pipe
[18:40] <Balsaq> ubottu don't be so hard on yourself!
[18:40] <joshua__> !oops
[18:40]  * `mOOse` hands pelo a |
[18:40] <Gianpon> hi everyone, I update to karmic but now it's all messy, what should I do?
[18:41] <Pelo> `mOOse`, thanks, it's been a while ...
[18:41] <Gianpon> I tried almost any apt-get command, but everything fail
[18:41] <`mOOse`> !hardware | tdizzle86
[18:41] <`mOOse`> ;-)
[18:41] <sam_sam> ubottu i want your source code
[18:41] <Balsaq> Giapon go back to 904
[18:41] <joshua__> lol at sam_sam
[18:41] <Gianpon> Balsaq: How?
[18:41] <Pelo> Gianpon, what do you mean by messy ?
[18:41] <Balsaq> delete partiton and reinstall
[18:42] <Gianpon> Pelo: I mean that i cannot use properly the keyboard
[18:42] <joshua__> !danger
[18:42] <liar> how do i find out which driverversion(wacom) is preinstalled?
[18:42] <`mOOse`> !!!@@!!!
[18:42] <joshua__> too many dunces have 1 partition these days
[18:42] <starm88> Go back and make sure you picked the right keyboard.
[18:42] <Pelo> Gianpon, have you tried, checking the keyboards settings in the gnome-control-center ?
[18:42] <guntbert> Balsaq: don't give such advice
[18:42] <Balsaq> ok?
[18:42] <sam_sam> where can i get the source code of this bot ??
[18:42] <campee> i have a 32-bit ubuntu 9.10 install where i'm running the following kernel: 2.6.31-16-generic-pae #53-Ubuntu SMP. i can still only see 3.5GB of RAM. i thought the PAE kernel was supposed to fix that?
[18:43] <musikgoat> !ubottu
[18:43] <Pelo> guntbert, actualy it's not bad advice,  if he can'T get it working properly a clean install will solve all problems
[18:43] <Gianpon> Pelo: is not that, if i try to update my packages errors comes out from everywhere
[18:43] <mezquitale> !bot
[18:43] <mezquitale> !ubottu
[18:43] <Gianpon> Pelo: icons are missing, and more stuff
[18:43] <Pelo> Gianpon, ok, what errors are we talking about
[18:43] <ardian> Hi any Hamachi users here ? how do i know what's my IP in hamachi im running hamachi on ubuntu so its terminal based
[18:43] <Balsaq> Gianpon maybe you slected the wrong counrty when you set up the keyboard?
[18:43] <musikgoat> sam_sam: https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimpson/ubuntu-bots/tweak
[18:43] <guntbert> Pelo: but please not as first measure without any investigation
[18:44] <musikgoat> ardian: run hamachi list
[18:44] <Gianpon> Balsaq: I suppose is not that, the arrows are gone, and these are equal everywhere
[18:44] <jebblue> joshua__ I use 1 on multiple computers - have for years. i also have automated backups - multiple partitions were needed in the old old days, with backups, not needed any more IMO
[18:44] <joshua__> campee: many vendors used to cell 4gb ram on machines with half a GB of video ram on motherboards that supported 4gb total and then blaimed it on a restriction of Windows x86 (which wasn't even true)
[18:44] <Balsaq> guntbert thats what i did when i had trouble
[18:44] <Pelo> Gianpon, how did you go about performing the upgrade ?
[18:44] <guntbert> !wfm | Balsaq
[18:44] <campee> joshua__: i have installed 64-bit operating systems on this hardware and have been able to see the full 5GB of RAM that is installed in the machine
[18:44] <Gianpon> Pelo: onestly I was running 8.04 then i did some update yesterday
[18:44] <ardian> musikgoat, its not showing my IP or ID nummber
[18:44] <Balsaq> ok
[18:44] <lafleur-> how to push out an user from my ubuntu?
[18:45] <musikgoat> ardian: check ifconfig to see if you have a ham interface
[18:45] <crawler> hello.  does anyone know how to play .mo3 files?  they are like .mod, .it, and .xm files.  chiptunes, basically
[18:45] <ardian> hmm good idea
[18:45] <Pelo> lafleur-, francais ?
[18:45] <Gianpon> Pelo: finally after a freeze and some recovery I updated to karmic as suggested by the system itself (:p)
[18:45] <Pelo> Gianpon, how did you perform this upgrade ?
[18:45] <ardian> musikgoat,  yes it works thanks
[18:45] <joshua__> and my problem, how should I clean up after a mistaken eqv of chown -R root /
[18:45] <musikgoat> ardian: cool
[18:45] <musikgoat> ardian: but if you are not joined to a group, your not going to get very far
[18:46] <Gianpon> Pelo:  many ways, first the apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:46] <Gianpon> Pelo: then the gui tool, that of the automatic update
[18:46] <Pelo> Gianpon, ok  if you messed up the upgrade that badly , a clean install is your better solution, is your /home folder on a seperate partiton ?
[18:47] <lafleur-> how to delete user from ubuntu
[18:47] <joshua__> campee: hmmm
[18:47] <`mOOse`> lafleur-: man deluser
[18:47] <Gianpon> Pelo: yes, it is, but I'd like to do some backup first, and I'm short of external drive right now
[18:48] <ardian> i know musikgoat  : )
[18:48] <Gianpon> Pelo: Is there any "simple" way to try an autofix?
[18:48] <joshua__> Pelo, it depends on how destructive you want to be
[18:48] <jebblue> lafleur or system | admin | users and groups?
[18:48] <Pelo> Gianpon, if your /home is on a seperate partitons  the easiet way is to clean install , and I can give you a set of commands that will allow you to restore all your installed progs in one command
[18:48] <joshua__> you see if Gianpon boots from external media, removes everything but /home, and reinstalls it should have the same effect
[18:48] <`mOOse`> that'll work too
[18:49] <mka2> lafleur-: sudo userdel username
[18:49] <joshua__> ever get the message apt-get is missing. you can install it by running apt-get install apt
[18:49] <Gianpon> Pelo: that's because i had some tunes-up to some programs and so... I fear of losing something
[18:50] <lafleur-> ipv6 on ubuntu?
[18:50] <Gianpon> Pelo: anyway, how can i restore all in one command?
[18:50] <ganymede> is there command that i can pipe a command to to get the output of my command into my X clipboard for pasting? e.g. cat "myfile" > copy-to-clipboard
[18:51] <Pelo> Gianpon, all the users prog settings are save on the /home folder ,  if you do a clean instal , and give your same username and password , during the install,  when you first reboot you should findyourself in a desktop that looks exactly like the one before,  with the possible execption of a few apps that arenT, INSTALLED yet
[18:51] <mka2> joshua__: your system is broken
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> ganymede:  there are such commands.. but i dont recall their names
[18:51] <Pelo> Gianpon,  you can duplicate your packages setup by using
[18:51] <Pelo>  dpkg --get-selections > mypackages
[18:51] <Pelo> on the laptop, copying that file to the desktop (after a base install) and doing
[18:51] <Pelo> dpkg --set-selections < mypackages && apt-get dselect-upgrade
[18:51] <FloodBot2> Pelo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:51] <ganymede> Dr_Willis, yeah, i sohuld have googled..."xclip"
[18:52] <kymara> hi, is there any version of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick which is written more clearly, perhaps one for 'dummies' ?
[18:52] <oCean_> ganymede: also: xsel
[18:52] <jebblue> you can also use Synaptic GUI to work with packages
[18:52] <johannes_> Hello!
[18:53] <Gianpon> Pelo: but I suppose that will restore my packages and not my app data. Am I wrong
[18:53] <Gianpon> Pelo: ?
[18:53] <Pelo> hold on , i'nm on the phone
[18:53] <Gianpon> Pelo: ok
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> kymara:  download iso. download unetbootin.. run unetbootin.. tell it the info.. make bootable usb drive...
[18:53] <bronzii> anyone familiar with mathematica?
[18:53] <sam_sam> :( i am as intelligent as the ubottu bot.. could not navigate to its code
[18:54] <bastid_raZor> Gianpon: correct, that will install the packages only, the data you speak of is in your /home/gianpon  ..
[18:54] <PrototypeX29A> mathematics is this thing with numbers and crosses and stuff, isn't it?
[18:54] <kymara> Dr_Willis: thanks but i am no more confident
[18:54] <johannes_> some one the can help me with an upgrading of my ubuntu?
[18:54] <oCean_> sam_sam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> kymara:  whatever then.. thers info at pendrivelinux.com also.
[18:55] <lstarnes> sam_sam: try http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~tsimpson/ubuntu-bots/tweak/files
[18:55] <crawler> Does anyone know how to play tracker music (.mo3 .it .mod .xm) music in Ubuntu?
[18:55] <kymara> Dr_Willis: i just want to install dual boot ubuntu on my netbook and it says i need to use the usb stck instructions
[18:55] <sam_sam> i m there but cant find code.. can u give exact link ?
[18:55] <johannes_> install vlc media player
[18:55] <musikgoat> sam_sam: I already did https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimpson/ubuntu-bots/tweak
[18:55] <mka2> crawler, doesnt vlc or mplayer work?
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> kymara:  make a bootable flash drive using unetbootin and the UNR or normal ubuntu iso file, and boot it. and use the installer.  It should resize the HD as needed and install.
[18:56] <Gianpon> bastid_raZor: You're right, but i have some editing in config files, and something else...
[18:56] <crawler> mka2: hmm... ill will try the vlc
[18:56] <mka2> crawler, sudo apt-get install vlc mplayer ubuntu-restricted-extras w32codecs
[18:56] <bastid_raZor> Gianpon: you would need to manually save those that are not in your /home
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> kymara:  thers alterantive guides for making a bootable flash drive at  the pendrivelinux.com site also. and other tutorials.
[18:57] <crawler> mka2: i have it installd already..but it won't play .mo3 files :-(
[18:57] <kymara> ok thanks Dr_Willis i will try reading those too before i start
[18:57] <musikgoat> !bzr | sam_sam
[18:57] <bastid_raZor> Gianpon: and honestly, when upgrading to a different version it is best to just redo the configurations as some things depreciate and older config files contain things not needed
[18:57] <Pelo> Gianpon, that set of command is to backup a list of the packages you have installed on your computer and then use that list to reinstall those packages ,  your application data,  your settings and your files are generaly saved to your /home/username folder,  so if you don'T delete/partition/format/overwrite your /home partiton all your data/settings/info/etc will be safe and available again once all the programs/packages/apps are reinstall
[18:57] <Pelo> ed , as if you had never left
[18:58] <crawler> mka2: in windows i was using XMPlay, but it does not work so well in wine
[18:58] <Pelo> Gianpon, that is unless you tinkered with your comp in such a way that your data is saved somewhere else
[18:58] <sam_sam> i am new here.. cant understand that >> !bzr | sam_sam
[18:58] <mezquitale> sam_sam, I can show you how to download mixxx and compile the beta version so you can test it
[18:58] <Gianpon> bastid_raZor: & Pelo: Thank you
[18:59] <Pelo> Gianpon, good luck I'M leaving now , I have t go run a errand
[18:59] <sam_sam> yeah plz mezquitable
[18:59] <trism> sam_sam: you need to install bzr (sudo apt-get install bzr) and then download from the repo; bzr branch lp:ubuntu-bots
[18:59] <musikgoat> sam_sam: that is an instruction to ubottu to give you info, read what ubottu replied
[18:59] <Gianpon> Pelo: Thaks, bye
[18:59] <schme> hey #ubuntu. How do I boot my ubuntu in normal console?
[18:59] <adalal> schme: u mean, boot to a commandline?
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> kymara:  in the time weve been chatting - i could of used Unetbootin and an iso file and made  a bootable pendrive  by now. :) unetbootin is rather straight forward in its ussage. It can even download the iso files if you want it to
[18:59] <sam_sam> oh thanks guys
[19:00] <ProfessorBacon> hey folks.  on my laptop (thinkpad r60) i've noticed considerable issues with staying connected with my wireless network.  i don't have this issue in windows.  can i tweek the wifi driver settings somehow?
[19:00] <schme> adalal: Yes.
[19:00] <schme> adalal: Without X starting up.
[19:00] <musikgoat> mmm bacon, /me goes to munch
[19:00] <ProfessorBacon> :D
[19:00] <kymara> Dr_Willis: i dont' want to ruin my new netbook. i dont' particularly like windows but i might as well make a dual boot system since it came with it. so i am being cautious.
[19:00] <adalal> schme: on the login screen, or whenever, hit alt-ctrl-f1 .. login there, and stop the gdm service using 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[19:01] <adalal> schme: and then unload the gdm service from starting up in the future
[19:01] <goose> what's the best file compression for an ISO file? tar.bz2?
[19:01] <schme> adalal: I see. thanks. I really just want it for the one time.  But somehow it seems M-C-F1 is not working for me here.
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> kymara:  you could use some live cd and make a image/backup of the whole netbook hard drive if you wanted to. My netbook -  had a 'restore' partiion i could boot to completely restore it to its initial state. I leave it on.
[19:01] <`mOOse`> goose: best?
[19:01] <mezquitale> kymara, for a fault proof way do it the way I did it, first install ubuntu netbook remix on a flash drive, then boot up into the flash drive and use gparted to partition your hard drive, you have to be very cautious since some of these manufacturers do something evil in your hard drive by creating more than one primary partition
[19:02] <goose> `mOOse`: for space saving. or is it not worth it?
[19:02] <schme> oh wait now it worked.
[19:02] <adalal> schme: m-c-f1?
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> kymara:  you could run linux totally from athe flash/pen drive and not even install it. It will work very well that way
[19:02] <`mOOse`> oh sure it is - iso's can be compressed - use rar if available
[19:02] <schme> adalal: Meta-Control-F1 to switch to console.
[19:02] <adalal> schme: what keyboard to u have?
[19:02] <schme> ok. here's a new one. I do echo -e "\a" yet I get no beep. How do I get this working?
[19:02] <schme> adalal: normal qwerty.
[19:03] <musikgoat> schme: alt+ctrl+f1
[19:03] <adalal> schme: do you have an alt-key?
[19:03] <schme> adalal: I have no alt-key mapped anywhere. This doesn't matter no more. I'm at the console.
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> schme:  the system beeps  are basically disabled. since  the pcspkr module is blacklisted.  There may be some ways to reactivate it - dependion on what you are doing
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> !info beep
[19:04] <adalal> schme: ok
[19:04] <schme> Dr_Willis: hmm ok. I will look at that.
[19:04] <Taejo> I use CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor, but it doesn't seem to remember my settings between when I restart the computer. Is there a way to make it always use "On-demand"?
[19:04] <schme> What a strange thing to blacklist.
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> schme:  not strange at all
[19:04] <pspfreak> how do I set up midi on my SoundX SMI-1450?
[19:04] <macman_> guys i have a question .. im about to get my battery back from dell (new battery) what does ubuntu have (application) that will save me battery power
[19:04] <Out_Cold> sys beeps after boot are freaking annoying
[19:05] <macman_> isn't there a jaunty channel ?
[19:05]  * Dr_Willis gets out the wirecutters and does a speaker-dectomy
[19:05] <schme> Dr_Willis: I'm confused to that thing there you !info'd.
[19:05] <Gianpon> Is there an automated procedure to make a clean install and save the home directory?
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> schme:  thats a fancy 'beeper' tool - i use it for example on my headless servers.. when its booted up i make rc.local play a little beepy tune. Or you can use it in scripts
[19:06] <schme> Dr_Willis: It's not really beeping for me.
[19:06] <Out_Cold> schme, i think 'beep' is an available package to install
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> schme:  because the pcspkr is blacklisted
[19:06] <schme> Dr_Willis: Ok. which means?
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> schme:  the pc speaker device is disabled.
[19:06] <schme> Dr_Willis: How do I enable it?
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> load the module :) then try the beep command
[19:06] <luizpaulo> ola
[19:07] <pspfreak> Can someone help me with my usb midi device/
[19:07] <luizpaulo> alguem pode me ajudar
[19:07] <mezquitale> !ubottu > mezquitale
[19:07] <schme> Dr_Willis: Ok. How do I do that?
[19:07] <luizpaulo> alguem pode me ajudar
[19:07] <Out_Cold> pspfreak, did you plug in the device?
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> schme:  sudo modprobe pcspkr
[19:07] <pspfreak> yes
[19:07] <pspfreak> outcold
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> !blacklist  | schme
[19:08] <luizpaulo> alguem pode me ajudar minha placa de videos nao funciona
[19:08] <Out_Cold> pspfreak, and does ubuntu recognize it?
[19:08] <pspfreak>  i dont know, how can I check?
[19:08] <schme> Dr_Willis: ah thanks.
[19:08] <microhaxo> If i save a script to /etc/rc.local does that mean it will be ran every startup?
[19:08] <Out_Cold> pspfreak, try lsusb in a terminal
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> microhaxo:  at BOOT up.. befor user logs in
[19:09] <microhaxo> Good, its power savings stuff.
[19:09] <penguinman> Heya
[19:09] <pspfreak> no it is not seeing
[19:09] <pspfreak> it
[19:09] <microhaxo> i have laptop mode enabled, should i disable it and let this script take over instead?
[19:09] <schme> Now how do I get this bell to bell for me in X with the echo -e "\a" ?
[19:09] <penguinman> I am trying to upgrade my mother's ubuntu 8.10 to karmic and cups is not starting at boot
[19:09] <Out_Cold> pspfreak, does ubuntu support the device??
[19:09] <penguinman> it's christmas time... mom's upgrade time :)
[19:09] <Out_Cold> !hardware > pspfreak
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> schme:  i just use  the beep command in my scripts, theres also other ways that consiole beeping can be disabled.
[19:10] <crawler> Gianpon: i'm curious about this too.  is your /home directory on it's own partition?
[19:10] <penguinman> So cups does not start at boot, if I start it manually the printer works, but I don't understand upstart at all, can someone help me debug the problem?
[19:10] <schme> Dr_Willis: I'm not so interested in disabling it.
[19:10] <schme> Is there some way to install an older X than what this koala provided me with?
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> schme:  im, saying there are ways it may allready be disabled...
[19:11] <schme> Dr_Willis: Well no. It's enabled. It's a bug in recent X.
[19:11] <pspfreak> Outcoldi dont know even see midi on the page
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> schme:  err. the system speaker/beep from what i know - is not related to X.
[19:12] <jebblue> penguinman did you upgrade to 9.04 first? i think that's recommended, anyway, check system | admin | log file viewer for any cups error messages
[19:12] <penguinman> jebblue, I reinstalled from scratch
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> Gnome/kde/other desktops/wms alsy may have their own 'alert'  stuff.
[19:12] <schme> Dr_Willis: It is not. But outputting ascii bell while in X is very much related to X.
[19:12] <adalal> is there a way to grant the cpu frequency applet permission to allow change without inserting the sudo pw?
[19:12] <crawler> penguinman: what command do you use to start cups manually?
[19:12] <schme> Dr_Willis: and a bug in recent X makes it not work.
[19:12] <penguinman> crawler, /etc/init.d/cups start
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> schme:  if you say so.. some would call that a feature
[19:12] <schme> Dr_Willis: I was hoping ubuntu had an older X where it *did* work.
[19:12] <schme> Dr_Willis: They're pretty delusional if they call it a feature.
[19:12] <penguinman> crawler, and if I do "/etc/init.d/cups status" it says not running (before I start it, obviously)
[19:13] <crawler> penguinman: have you tried adding command that to your startup applications?
[19:13] <pspfreak> out_cold, I don't see midi even on the page. What would it be calleed?
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:  use sudo service cups status/start/restart
[19:13] <Out_Cold> pspfreak, what is the model??
[19:13] <penguinman> Dr_willis of course I do that from a root shell
[19:13] <penguinman> but crawler, isn't cups supposed to be running?
[19:13] <microhaxo> I added a script to rc.local to do power savings but according to powertop it isnt executing the commands?
[19:14] <penguinman> Dr_willis the problem is that cups is NOT running at boot, so the printer does not work by default
[19:14] <pspfreak> Out_cold SoundX SMI-1450
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:  with the move to 9.10 - many services are useing upstart. So i suggest starting to use the service command, and not using the init.d/stuff
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:  that is weird..   You could alsays kick it in the head with 'service cups restart' in rc.local perhaps.
[19:15] <penguinman> Dr_willis how can I check that in the current upstart config cups SHOULD start?
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:  check /etc/init
[19:15] <stedy> sombody that know pbuilder and could explain how i could fix this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/347162/
[19:15] <Gianpon> crawler: sorry for delay, yes it should be
[19:15] <penguinman> Dr_Willis, no file named cups there
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:  i dont see a cups .conf in there. so it may still be using the old sysv init files.. but that could change in the next release
[19:15] <Gianpon> crawler: how can I check that?
[19:16] <penguinman> Dr_Willis, but if I give the command "runlevel" it says "undefined"
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:  theres one upstart service that handles the starting of the sysv scripts in /etc/rc2.d
[19:16] <penguinman> ah ok
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:  runlevels are basically meaningless now a days in ubuntu
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> !runlevel
[19:16] <penguinman> Dr_Willis, there's an S50cups there
[19:16] <PlasmaSheep> I cannot properly suspend or hibernate my dell laptop with karmic.
[19:16] <dupondje> is there a ppa for Thunderbird 3.0 ?
[19:17] <pete83> !upstart
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:  you may want to move it to like.. s97cups to make it start later in the process
[19:17] <pspfreak> out_cold StartX SMI-1450
[19:17] <dupondje> mozilla-daily is to up to date imo, as its a new package every day
[19:17] <kbrooks> Hello everyone
[19:17] <jebblue> penguinman any errors (you can use Find) in system | admin | log file viewer or grep /var/log/messages in a terminal for cups - you can install "bum" to make sure cups is set to start at boot -  i  guess i thought you were saying that running /etc/init.d/cups start was also failing?
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:  or just start it from the rc.local - it may be theres some sort of other issue thats making cups fail to start.
[19:17] <penguinman> Dr_Willis, but do you suggest that for a reason e.g. maybe it NEEDS to start later?
[19:17] <todd1> when I update, add, or remove programs I get this error " nfs-kernel-server".  Can anyone help?
[19:17] <crawler> Gianpon: df -h
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:  if for example networking is slow ti get going.. cups may be fauiling to start
[19:18] <penguinman> Dr_Willis, maybe thinking about that
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:  this is one of the reasons for the move to Upstart.
[19:18] <Out_Cold> pspfreak, i'm not seeing anything linking that sound board to ubuntu yet... you may need to find a linux driver, possibly contacting the manufacturer and asking them for help?
[19:18] <penguinman> Dr_Willis, I don't have an "/etc/network/interfaces" file
[19:18] <pspfreak> ok
[19:18] <penguinman> that I had to delete because I had used pon/poff to configure the ADSL connection because of a network-manager bug
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:  i dont een know what files config the networking these days.
[19:19] <pspfreak> out_cold Thanks
[19:19]  * geoperry offers a toast towards systems friendly to casual users: may be "awakeners" for often-used resources such as cups: smaller & quicker to start at boot, so that the system would recognise requests for such as printing by installing appropriate resource
[19:19] <Out_Cold> pspfreak, sorry i couldn't be more helpful
[19:19] <penguinman> Dr_Willis, can you check if you have a /etc/network/interfaces file? (and tell me if you used pppoeconf or something similar?)
[19:19] <microhaxo> Where can i put this code  (echo min_power > /sys/class/scsi_host/host0/link_power_management_policy  so that it executes if i am on battery and NOT on AC ?
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:  my interfaces file is rather basic.
[19:19] <penguinman> but you have one! :) aha
[19:19] <brianherman> did you guys know that if you install ubuntu from netinst(minimal install it installs kernel-ng which boots up in 5 sec?
[19:19] <Gianpon> crawler: that's the output: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d19cc9a6b
[19:19] <pspfreak> out_cold: that is ok. I would of sat in muse trying to figure it out for hours
[19:19] <penguinman> Dr_Willis, probably that's the point, can you paste me the default file on the pastebin?
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:  it has 2 lines.. (which follow)
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> auto lo
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> iface lo inet loopback
[19:20] <penguinman> Dr_Willis, thanks
[19:20] <penguinman> Dr_Willis, probably lo is started later by networkmanager but should be started earlier for cups
[19:20] <PlasmaSheep> I cannot properly suspend or hibernate my dell laptop with karmic.
[19:20] <Out_Cold> pspfreak, best bet is emailing or foruming with the specific manufacturer.. find a linux driver then come back and see what we can help with
[19:20] <Gianpon> crawler: so I suppose they are on different partitions
[19:21] <crawler> Gianpon: that's good that /home has it's own partition.  i'm going to be moving mine to a separate one soon.
[19:21]  * penguinman reboots
[19:21] <crawler> Gianpon: so you want an automated way to reinstall ubuntu?  that i don't know how to do
[19:22] <macman_> so i did a successfull upgrade to 9.10 and now i just want to see once it reboots will it work 0_o
[19:22] <Gianpon> crawler: not really, I searching an external drive to backup, after I'll just try
[19:23] <Gianpon> crawler: but now it's pizza time, thank you. See you soon, I hope
[19:23] <crawler> gk, bye
[19:23] <jnyknx> heyhey
[19:23] <macman_> wow 9.10 looks pretty
[19:24] <jnyknx> could someone answer a question for me please?
[19:24] <ardchoille> macman_: Wait until you see 11.04 :)
[19:24] <crawler> !ask | jnyknx
[19:24] <`mOOse`> yellow
[19:24] <macman_> nice .. question ... i just did a fresh install of 9.10 .. i want to start right away on getting stuff done .. do i still apt-get unbun-restricstions ?
[19:24] <macman_> is everything mostlly the same ?
[19:25] <penguinman> Dr_Willis, bingo, it was the interfaces file :) Your hint about networking was the right one
[19:25] <penguinman> bye all
[19:25] <ardchoille> macman_: there were some changes in 9.10 but easy to get used to
[19:25] <bastid_raZor> macman_: yes, nearly all is the same. ubuntu-restricted-extras still does most.. and medibuntu will help too
[19:25] <todd1> when I update, add, or remove programs I get this error " nfs-kernel-server".  Can anyone help?
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> macman_:  i always install ubuntu-restricted-extras first thing. :)
[19:26] <jnyknx> im installing the wine em thru spm and its wanting to remove 154 pkgs, is this normal?
[19:26] <macman_> ok Dr_Willis second thing is that i want to keep everything up to date so im not out of the loop .. do i just do a apt-get update ?
[19:26] <jebblue> gj Dr_Willis
[19:26] <Out_Cold> macman_, and apt-get upgrade
[19:26] <velcroshooz> running xubuntu 9.10, screenlets refuse to remember position or size on restart .. any help?
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> macman_:  update, then upgrade
[19:27] <macman_> ok xool
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> macman_:  about once a week :) there are the messages also about updates.
[19:27] <macman_> cool*
[19:27] <macman_> oh ok
[19:27] <jnyknx> im relatively new to ubuntu, and im concerned.. any idea would be appreciated
[19:28] <macman_> are there any battery applications that can save my laptop battery power ?
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> jnyknx:  through 'spm' ?  whats spm?
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> wine em - different from 'wine' ?
[19:29] <jnyknx> sry, the package manager
[19:29] <jnyknx> no, just wine
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> jnyknx:  whats it wanting to remove anyway? sure its not wanting to update stuff?
[19:29] <stedy> sombody that know pbuilder and could explain how i could fix this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/347162/
[19:29] <wilhart> ok how did i remove ushare from /etc/init/.d so it doesnt start in bootup ?
[19:30] <jnyknx> no, its trying to remove things like bluetooth, gnome sys tools, ect
[19:30] <PlasmaSheep> I cannot properly suspend or hibernate my dell laptop with karmic.
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> jnyknx:  thats weird..  try it from the command line.  be sure to update/upgrade also.
[19:30] <DavidJHeinrich> does anyone ere know if the portable book-readers allow reading regular PDF files?
[19:31] <luizpaulo_> ALGUEM PODE M,E AJUDAR
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> jnyknx:  'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[19:31] <PlasmaSheep> DavidJHeinrich: does this look like #ebookreader ?
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> DavidJHeinrich:  i recall seeing in some reviews that some of them do
[19:31] <jnyknx> i have, get the same thing
[19:31] <ardchoille> !es | luizpaulo_
[19:31] <kbrooks> I'd like to speed up Ubuntu. Do you have any tips
[19:31] <Out_Cold> has anyone here had troubles with uck not recognizing a ubuntu iso??
[19:32] <jebblue> wilhart you can install "bum" to control which services should start up at least in 9.10
[19:32] <ardchoille> jnyknx: Have you added any 3rd party sources?
[19:32] <sony> does anyone know where w3m saves downloaded files and where i can watch the download progress?
[19:32] <pete83> !info bum
[19:32] <crawler> kbrooks: have you tried xubuntu?  it's much faster
[19:32] <wolter> is it dangerous to overclock a video card? Also, how do I installl nvidia's 195 driver?
[19:32] <wolter> through repository
[19:32] <kbrooks> crawler, I don't need xubuntu.
[19:32] <velcroshooz> what do i have to chmod a dir in /media/ to give rw to a user? 775?
[19:33] <airtonix> wolter, unless something changed in the last two months i don't think the 195 driver is avail via apt
[19:33] <wilhart> jebblue: should i use as root or name?
[19:33] <jnyknx> i had a prob with winff, it was causings errors in update, but i added the repository and it seemed to fix it
[19:34] <wolter> airtonix, oh too bad.. I just see new and new drivers get released by nvidia and ubuntu doesn't adapt them
[19:34] <Out_Cold> airtonix, it's not
[19:34] <jnyknx> other than that, i dont believe so, nno 3rd partys
[19:34] <DavidJHeinrich> Dr_Willis: Thank you
[19:34] <airtonix> wolter, there is no need. its a rather simple operation to install them
[19:34] <todd1> PlasmaSheep, me too.  Hibernate doesn't wake up.  I have a Dell Inspiron 1501.  Not sure what to do?
[19:34] <jebblue> wilhart err what bum? with sudo crdentials
[19:34] <ardchoille> !root | wilhart: user  you system as user, never log into the root account, sudo is all you need
[19:34] <PlasmaSheep> todd1: I can't even get into hibernate. The screen never turns off.
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> DavidJHeinrich:  for the $200+ pricetag those things better give you a foot massage also.. :)
[19:35] <wilhart> jebblue: yea
[19:35] <airtonix> todd1, how much memory does the laptop have, and how big did you make your swap drive  ?
[19:35] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: hehe
[19:35] <chazco> Hi... how can I record sound from another application?
[19:35] <wolter> airtonix, i always screw up my stuff with them
[19:35] <airtonix> wolter, what nvida card do you have ?
[19:35] <wolter> airtonix, 8600m GT
[19:35] <jebblue> wilhart bum is a gui utility
[19:36] <wilhart> jebblue: it doesnt start :(
[19:36] <wilhart> jebblue: do i need to be in gnome ?
[19:36] <jebblue> wilhart yep AFAIK
[19:36] <`mOOse`> PlasmaSheep, todd1, add me to the list of dell users (600m) that can't hibernate
[19:37] <macman_> guys
[19:37] <macman_> isnt' there a source i need to add to my sources.list so i can get libdvdcss libdvdread etc ..
[19:37] <lstarnes> !medibuntu | macman_
[19:37] <bastid_raZor> lstarnes: beat me too it
[19:37] <airtonix> `mOOse`, PlasmaSheep screen doesn't turn off ? or it automatically comes out of hibernation ?
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> macman_:  medibuntu repos
[19:37] <bastid_raZor>  -o
[19:38] <`mOOse`> it hibernates, but then hoses when it re-starts
[19:38] <PlasmaSheep> airstrike: When  I try to hibernate/suspend, everything goes smoothely, but the screen doesn't turn off. The computer is completely silent though.
[19:38] <airtonix> `mOOse`, have you enxured your swap drive is at least 1.5 times larger than your physical memory ?
[19:38] <`mOOse`> is there an actual list of every repository for ubuntu?
[19:38] <todd1> airtonix, how do I see my swap drive?
[19:39] <`mOOse`> airtonix: this is a persistent flashdrive install of karmic - so I have a casper-rw
[19:39] <PlasmaSheep> airtonix: my swap drive is 2x larger.
[19:39] <`mOOse`> no swap
[19:39] <jnyknx> any ideas? its aslo wanting to remove things like the ubuntu desktop, linux sound base, ect. i obviously dont want to remove these
[19:39] <airtonix> todd1, usually it will get listed along with the other partitions by using fdisk -l
[19:39] <`mOOse`> 3 gig rw
[19:39] <airtonix> PlasmaSheep, have you investigated dmesg immediatly after a hibernation failure ?
[19:39] <microhaxo> How do i make a script run at boot for power saving options that requires root to be able to execute correctly?
[19:39] <`mOOse`> jnyknx: I dunno if I'd continue if it were me ;-)
[19:40] <airtonix> `mOOse`, hibernation relies on a swap partition to image your physical memory into...
[19:40] <jnyknx> no, of couse not
[19:40] <`mOOse`> airtonix: aha! that would make sense!
[19:40] <airtonix> `mOOse`, or a swap file.
[19:40] <jnyknx> ..this seems to be happening with every package i try to install
[19:40] <ardchoille> jnyknx: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list? I can try and help with this.
[19:40] <wolter> anyway, is it dangerous to overclock a gpu?
[19:40] <ardchoille> !pastebin | jnyknx
[19:41] <todd1> airtonix, I'm not seeing a swap file
[19:41] <airtonix> `mOOse`, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[19:41] <marco> list
[19:41] <marco> \list
[19:41] <marco> ciao
[19:41] <jnyknx> ok. thank u, ho
[19:41] <airtonix> todd1, sudo fdisk -l
[19:41] <erUSUL> microhaxo: /etc/rc.local
[19:42] <Slyone> He guys, I have an intel graphiccard and somehow it doesnt support 3d graphics, what to do???
[19:42] <blz> I have a 3rd gen ipod nano that used to work fine in pretty much any music manager... it now mounts perfectly but is not recognized by any music manager other than Rhythmbox (which I do not want to use)... I tried issuing the "nautilus -q" fix in the terminal... any advice?
[19:42] <marco> ciao
[19:42] <marco> !list
[19:42] <`mOOse`> thanks airtonix
[19:42] <airtonix> todd1, you should get something like : http://pastebin.com/f44e9fb69
[19:42] <`mOOse`> is there an actual list of every repository for ubuntu guys?
[19:42] <marco> \list
[19:42] <airtonix> `mOOse`, no
[19:42] <blz> 'm00se'  no
[19:43] <airtonix> !list | marco
[19:43] <`mOOse`> k thx
[19:43] <blz> !ipod
[19:43] <microhaxo> erUSUL: I put the script in that file and it didnt execute
[19:43] <marco> !ipod
[19:43] <microhaxo> powertop still suggests to enable sata alpm link power management
[19:43] <marco> \list
[19:43] <ardchoille> marco: What are you trying to do?
[19:43] <erUSUL> microhaxo: did you used the whole path when calling the script?
[19:44] <crawler> blz have you tried banshee?
[19:44] <microhaxo> I just pasted in the script into the rc.local
[19:44] <blz> crawler:  yes.  I tried banshee, amarok, songbird
[19:45] <bastid_raZor> microhaxo: you just need the the /full/path/to/script in there. not the script itself
[19:45] <microhaxo> Oh
[19:45] <wilhart> is there a simular program like bum ?
[19:45] <wilhart> to kde
[19:45] <microhaxo> ok
[19:45] <todd1> airtonix, this is what I have http://pastebin.com/m3cf1834
[19:45] <kraitos> i'm trying to get an animated wallpaper can anyone help?
[19:45] <pspfreak> hey guys, my headset stoped working, and now I have no audio, how can I get audio to go back through the headset?
[19:45] <macman_> so i have a quadro fx 3500 right ..  i need  nvidia-glx-180
[19:45] <jillsmitt_> cant find remasteros in ubuntu repository
[19:45] <jebblue> blz you need a music player try Exaile works great and has an equalizer
[19:45] <macman_> im in hardware drivers and i don't see 180 i see 173 / 185 .. what should i do ?
[19:45] <freeksh0w86> blz, in gtkpod you have to find the configuration window for setting up iPod info and THEN using Load Ipod
[19:46] <samih> hello, can anyone help me to install realtek sound driver
[19:46] <airtonix> todd1, notice the word "swap" ...
[19:46] <blz> freeksh0w86:  i'm not using gtkpod
[19:46] <bastid_raZor> !remaster | jillsmitt_
[19:46] <erUSUL> microhaxo: paste the entirre rc.local file in pastebin please
[19:46] <blz> jebblue:  i'll try it, but unfortunately I have gathered that this is an issue with HAL being phased out...
[19:46] <todd1> airtonix, I see the "swap", is that enough memory -- can't tell the total amount 1.5X?
[19:46] <blz> so i'd be surprised if that fixed anything
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  animated as in changes every 10 min? or like a videooutput?
[19:47] <nitzud> seeking wireless help on Dell a90 netbook running ubuntu 8.04
[19:47] <jebblue> blz oh thought you were looking for a music player nm
[19:47] <freeksh0w86> blz, i couldn't get a 4th gen nano to recognize in anything but gtkpod or rhythmbox. gtkpod was the only one capable of writing usable data.
[19:47] <microhaxo> so erUSUL: like this?   exec /home/power_save      ?
[19:47] <jnyknx> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1e3b4092
[19:47] <Slyone> He guys, I have an intel graphiccard and somehow it doesnt support 3d graphics, what to do???
[19:47] <ardchoille> !wireless | nitzud
[19:47] <erUSUL> samih: « sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic »
[19:47] <macman_> im in hardware drivers and i don't see 180 i see 173 / 185 .. what should i do ? .. i did an apt-get nvidia .. i see a nvidia-glx-180 and a nvidia-glx-180dev .. do i install both the dev and the regular one or just the dev ?
[19:47] <nitzud> !wireless
[19:47] <Guest37075> ttf-mscorefonts-installer 3.0 how can i fix this problem
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> !intel | Slyone
[19:47] <blz> freeksh0w86:  hmm it was working on songbird before.  my understanding is that this is some sort of issue with HAL being phased out in Karmic
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> Slyone:  there may be info on 9.10 at that url also.
[19:48] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: well i want it to be a video output, but if i could get like some cool looking red pulsing look that would be awsome?
[19:48] <jebblue> Slyone try installing the binary restricted driver if one exists
[19:48] <airtonix> todd1, notice the first coloumn it has "/dev/sda5"
[19:48] <Slyone> jebblue, how to do this?
[19:48] <erUSUL> microhaxo: paste the entire rc.local file in pastebin please (and or /home/power_save )
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  if you wanted to blow your sustem resources and have a video player on the background, and  borderless.. thats possible i imagine.. but why bother.
[19:48] <jebblue> Slyone system | admin | hardware drivers
[19:48] <freeksh0w86> blz, i don't know of HAL being phased out in 9.10... automount of the device works everytime whereas in PCLinuxOS it seems to stop working after 2 mounts. I couldn't get songbird and the ipod addon working in 9.10 myself
[19:49] <airtonix> todd1, gah you can run gpartd to see the size i believe
[19:49] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: good point
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  i belive vlc/mplayer might ahve plugins to do that :)
[19:49] <Slyone> jebblue, there arent any drivers
[19:49] <microhaxo> erUSUL, the rc.local is completely Empty, but i'll paste the power_saver
[19:49] <Guest37075> ttf-mscorefonts-installer 3.0 does someone fix this bug
[19:49] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: how do i get it so i can change images every 10min like you said?
[19:49] <freeksh0w86> blz, you might check the Javascript error console of songbird when mounting the iPod. i looked at mine and got errors about failing to load some library *.so files
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> Guest37075:  write a clearer question.
[19:49] <facotum> i still have issues with it, so I guess not
[19:49] <samih> erUSUL thanks, I'm trying it
[19:49] <airtonix> todd1, i mean "palimpsest"
[19:50] <blz> freeksh0w86:  hmm that's a good idea.  how do you get to said console?
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  theres dozens of wallpaper changer tools/scripts.. or gnome now has  wallpaper 'sets' that can change based on time/date from a xml file.
[19:50] <facotum> he's wondering if there as a fix for the ttf installer, there have been a lot of bugs filed
[19:50] <freeksh0w86> i can't remember the exact tooltip, i think it's under Tools > error console or something like that
[19:50] <facotum> i still have issues with it, but havent bothered with it yet
[19:50] <macman_> Dr_Willis: you mind helping me with that ? hardware drivers wants me to install my nvidia card .. it has 173 (recommended) 185 (recommended) .. i did an apt-cache search for nvidia-glx-180 and i have an option for the dev or just the regular 180 .. witch should i install
[19:50] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: how do i set that up then?
[19:50] <Guest37075> thank you after update my ubuntu everytime i do a update at the end is telling me ttf-mscorefonts-installer 3.0 is not able to install i check and am not the only one i just want to know the way to fix that
[19:50] <airtonix> facotum, ttf installer? i just put my fonts in ~/.fonts
[19:51] <nitzud> is there a default root pwd on ubuntu 8.04
[19:51] <facotum> I on the otherhand have one for you. I'm in laptop land now. Any suggestions throttling and what have you for the desktop?
[19:51] <facotum> airtonix: same here
[19:52] <ardchoille> !root | nitzud
[19:52] <airtonix> facotum, throttling ? cpu or network  ?
[19:52] <saica> hello! I need help with a recurring initramfs problem.
[19:52] <nitzud> some wireless troubleshooting commands now working i.e. lshw
[19:52] <facotum> airtonix: cpu
[19:52] <airtonix> facotum, have you tried the gnome applet
[19:52] <facotum> 64 dual
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  http://www.webupd8.org/  has some tools to do that.. one downlaods/changes over 300+ national geographic wallpapers.
[19:52] <blz> freeksh0w86:  i don't see any errors... so it looks like it's a problem with karmic, not so much the music manager...
[19:52] <sb51g> hallo
[19:52] <jnyknx> ardchoille, did u get tht?
[19:52] <sb51g> kann nr deutsch
[19:53] <airtonix> !info powernowd | facotum
[19:53] <ardchoille> jnyknx: I need the url
[19:53] <guntbert> !de | sb51g
[19:53] <jnyknx> ........http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1e3b4092
[19:53] <Guest37075> how to fix bug 431217 ttf-mscorefonts-installer 3.0
[19:53] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: again thank you for the great help you have help me today and the past.
[19:53] <facotum> coolbeans
[19:53] <freeksh0w86> blz, how did you install songbird in 9.10?
[19:53] <blz> freeksh0w86:  from the getdeb repo
[19:53] <freeksh0w86> ah
[19:53] <microhaxo> erUSUL: http://www.nopaste.nl/?paste=1596
[19:54] <freeksh0w86> i just downloaded the tarball and ran it locally. it didn't seem to come with iPod addon so i had to find it and download it
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  moast of what i learn/know lately is comming from rss feeds of sites like that one and many other Ubuntu-tips sites :)
[19:54] <airtonix> facotum, you should also have a gnome-applet you can add to your panel that does something similar
[19:54] <nitzud> lshw -C network (returns command not found)
[19:54] <blz> freeksh0w86:  yes the ipod support addon is installed
[19:54] <ardchoille> jnyknx: The reason  you had trouble with winff is because you used sources meant for intrepid on your dapper system. It's not good to mix sources like that
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  use that sites search box and look for 'wallpaper changers'
[19:54] <lgc> Why does Xorg hog my CPU? Is this normal?
[19:54] <facotum> airtonix: thanks, appreciate it
[19:54] <saica> Anybody have any idea why or how Ubuntu *removes* dmraid (and or various other kernel modules) from my initramfs every other time I upgrade?
[19:55] <jnyknx> word
[19:55] <ardchoille> jnyknx: You need to stick with dapper sources if you're running a dapper system.
[19:55] <lstarnes> saica: how are you adding them to the initramfs?
[19:55] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: how do you set up the rss to get learn/know hows ?
[19:55] <saica> & what I can do about it?
[19:55] <Slyone> whats the best OS for netbook with intel graphiccards???
[19:55] <therock_> Slyone: EeeBuntu
[19:55] <ardchoille> jnyknx: I'd recommend disabling the backports sources and do: sudo apt-get update
[19:55] <schme> Slyone: Whichever one has the apps you need.
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  hit the little feed button in the address bar. and add them to whatever feed reader you like. Ive been using 'feedly' firefox extension lately
[19:56] <Slyone> therock_, but i have an acer aspire one, not an eee
[19:56] <saica> lstarnes: they should be loaded automatically upon installation (so long as dpkg handles the initramfs-hooks properly)
[19:56] <therock_> Slyone: you can't go wrong with EeeBuntu, it has everything preconfigured for you
[19:56] <jnyknx> thank you friend, ill give it a shot
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  or add the feed bookmark so the bookmarks menu updates in firefox. :)
[19:56] <lstarnes> saica: I was asking how you were adding dmraid to the initramfs
[19:56] <ardchoille> jnyknx: Then see what happens with your install. Don't forget to remove that winff and any other non-dapper sources
[19:56] <therock_> Slyone: it should work either way i guess, since those netbooks are basically the same.
[19:56] <macman_> strange i just install nvidia-glx-180 for nvidia .. i openedup nvidia-settngs and it said i wasn't using the driver
[19:57] <nitzud> is there a premission issue that would prevent IP address assignment, once connected to a wireless network?
[19:57] <stevecoh1> I find that Firefox 3.5 will not exit cleanly from Ubuntu 9.10.  Frequently I must kill the process manually.  If I don't, I can't restart it.  Has anyone else expereienced this?
[19:57] <erUSUL> microhaxo: yes; sorry
[19:58] <Slyone> what about suse? is the 3d performance better than in ubuntu?
[19:58] <lstarnes> stevecoh1: I've had similar issues in another distribution
[19:58] <`mOOse`> ok, I'm panicking....I think that backport installed the new kernel on my flashdrive install (not good - it kills the OS)
[19:58] <lgc> stevecoh1, I can exit normally.
[19:58] <stevecoh1> lstarnes - interesting.  Do you have any workaround?
[19:58] <erUSUL> microhaxo: and where did you set on_ac_power ?
[19:58] <`mOOse`> how do you revert back to a previous version?
[19:58] <lstarnes> stevecoh1: I couldn't find one
[19:58] <`mOOse`> can I just uninstall it?
[19:58] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: got a question how do you add that 'feedly' to the rss feed?
[19:58] <lstarnes> stevecoh1: I think it's a bug in firefox
[19:59] <microhaxo> Never touched that, i assumed that it is built in.
[19:59] <stevecoh1> Yeah - my workaround is system monitor.
[19:59] <stevecoh1> or ps and kill
[19:59] <lstarnes> stevecoh1: but it seems that the daily build of firefox 3.5 that I have in ubuntu 8.04 doesn't have that issue
[19:59] <jebblue> stevecoh1 works fine here multiple machines with 9.10 - maybe it's a plugin you installed?
[19:59] <microhaxo> erUSULL: this is the page i went off of: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=729644&page=1
[19:59] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: or is there some extencion i have to add?
[19:59] <stevecoh1> that is possible.
[19:59] <erUSUL> microhaxo: also check that the path is ok. maybe is /home/yourusername/power_save. rc.local has to have execution permissions and the exec has to be before the exit 0 in rc.local
[20:00] <raj> hi
[20:00] <stevecoh1> There is one plugin I once installed, never use, and probably should get rid of.
[20:00] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  its a firefox exension ive been trying out. gives you a nice feed/rss/news homepage. :) and other things
[20:00] <lgc> stevecoh1, you might use "pkill firefox" for a more elegant option. Otherwise, you might find the #firefox channel useful.
[20:00] <microhaxo> erUSULL: my rc.local is BLANK, there is nothing in it.
[20:00] <`mOOse`> I use Brief and I love it (FF addon)
[20:00] <saica> lstarnes: i have tried editing various configuration files manually, such as specifing dm-raid4-5 in modules.conf, but that isn't really relevant. I even compiled and installed the patched dmraid to specifically solve this problem (it fixes a mistake in initramfs-hooks). Whenever I upgrade or install packages that requrie an "update-initramfs" (which is done automatically by dpkg) dmraid and/or other modules seem to be unloaded from the
[20:00] <lgc> stevecoh1, "pkill -KILL firefox", I mean.
[20:00] <erUSUL> microhaxo: !?
[20:00] <raj> my monitor is not being detected
[20:00] <`mOOse`> Dr_Willis: I'm in trouble!
[20:01] <`mOOse`> help!
[20:01] <`mOOse`> that backport installed the new kernel on my flashdrive install (not good - it kills the OS)
[20:01] <microhaxo> erUSULL: yea, just a white empty thing.
[20:01] <`mOOse`> how do you revert back to a previous version?
[20:01] <`mOOse`> can I just uninstall it?
[20:01] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: how do i get it ? i mean do i install directly from firefox or download center?
[20:01] <lstarnes> saica: what about /etc/initramfs-tools/modules?
[20:01] <lstarnes> `mOOse`: it should keep the old versions installed too
[20:02] <saica> lstarnes: I'll take a look... it's going to take me a while to reboot from livecd and chroot into the system... brb.
[20:02] <macman_> does totem just suck or does it just not like my dvd .. i have installed all librarys
[20:02] <{g}> Hey People! I have a file called "-2ansync.html" and want to remove it. But How?
[20:02] <{g}> When I do "rm -2ansync.html" I get "rm: invalid option -- 2"
[20:02] <Alacard> kraitos, have you attempted to install firefox directly from their website?
[20:02] <lstarnes> {g}: rm -- -2ansync.html
[20:02] <`mOOse`> lstarnes: if I reboot it will lock this install tighter n a frogs butt...so I have to revert back to the <IP_ADDRESS> that I WAS using or...
[20:02] <{g}> rm ./-2ansync.html worked :)
[20:03] <lstarnes> {g}: or that
[20:03] <lstarnes> `mOOse`: check /boot/grub/menu.lst or /boot/grub/grub.cfg to see if kept the old kernels
[20:03] <kraitos> alacard, i have firefox
[20:03] <raj> this OS is unable to detect my monitor
[20:03] <saica> macman_: define "all librarys"
[20:03] <`mOOse`> ok
[20:03] <ardchoille> macman_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Installing%20libdvdcss
[20:03] <kraitos> alacard, it came preinstallled on ubuntu like every version of ubuntu
[20:04] <jnyknx> ardchoille: im still getting 154 pkgs marked for removal
[20:04] <raj> i now have only one resolution
[20:04] <raj> that  is 800*600
[20:04] <stevecoh1> Does anyone know what "Ubuntu Firefox Extensions 0.8" is?  That is not the plugin I suspected but I didn't even know it was there.  What does it do and is it necessary?
[20:04] <macman_> i have installed libdvdcss via medibuntu
[20:04] <macman_> etc ..
[20:04] <macman_> it plays in vlc not totem or mplayer
[20:04] <ardchoille> macman_: Ah, ok
[20:04] <blz> anybody know why music managers may be failing to detect my mounted ipod?  I've heard it could be a HAL issue (i'm on 9.10), but I'm not sure how to fix it
[20:04] <stevecoh1> does firefox log errors somewhere so I might get a better handle on what the problem is?
[20:05] <strange> ipod touch?
[20:05] <ardchoille> jnyknx: Not sure what to do about that. It could be a problem stemming from having intrepid sources.
[20:05] <blz> strange:  3rd gen nano
[20:05] <macman_> ardchoille: any ideas on ho to fix .. vlc works fine
[20:05] <saica> macman_: are you sure the dvd an your drive are the same region?
[20:05] <strange> dunno then
[20:05] <strange> i know the touch doesnt work :)
[20:05] <ardchoille> macman_: I'd just use vlc, never liked totem
[20:06] <microhaxo> erUSULL: can i just replace the etc/rc.local with the one in init.d ?
[20:06] <ardchoille> in fact I uninstalled it
[20:06] <WatchMan> Using Karmic, I have problems streaming videos fullscreen... hardware drivers updated
[20:06] <microhaxo> they are the same right?
[20:06] <macman_> ok
[20:06] <macman_> ardchoille: and this won't have any effect on my ripping movies etc ..
[20:06] <ardchoille> MacGyverNL: no
[20:06] <ardchoille> macman_: no
[20:06] <macman_> lol
[20:06] <ardchoille> MacGyverNL: sorry, tab completion bit me
[20:07] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: okay i install feedly now how do i get it were i get the feeds that you get?
[20:07] <WatchMan> Using Karmic, I have problems streaming videos fullscreen... hardware drivers updated.. any tips?
[20:07] <raj> hi guys
[20:07] <Threetimes> Hi, is there a way to display the contents os a XML file like http://top2009.radio2.nl/data/dallet/onair.xml in my GNOME panel?
[20:07] <raj> i have a query
[20:07] <`mOOse`> dang...
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  the sites have rss icons you click on and tell them to use feedly
[20:08] <macman_> ardchoille: i want to change the dvd insert menu .. basically when you insert a dvd totem tries to come up .. i looked in the system > prefered applications  .. nothing seems to work
[20:08] <raj> on screen resolution'
[20:08] <wowoto_> Threetimes, gedit
[20:08] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: what site do you use?
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> kraitos: several dozen
[20:08] <`mOOse`> lstarnes: I now have a config-2.6.31-14-generic and a config-2.6.31-16-generic file in my /boot folder
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  check delicious.com/dr_willis under my rss tags
[20:08] <Threetimes> wowoto_: I know how to manually read the file, but I want the current song as a gnome applet
[20:09] <ardchoille> macman_: open nautilus, click Edit > Preferences, go to the Media tab and make some changes
[20:09] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: i'll check it out, thanks
[20:09] <lstarnes> `mOOse`: but what about in menu.lst or grub.cfg?
[20:09] <`mOOse`> they don't exist
[20:09] <nanoguy> Anyone have a question?
[20:09] <raj> mine is a 17 inch monitor but this OS gives me only 800*600(resolution), it works in windows but not in UBUNTU
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  some how i got my Delicious extension tio have the feeds in the menus aso. :) you can do that with firefox. so the new items show up in teh bookmarks.. some how..
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[20:09] <bbrooks> does Evoluton work with Exchange 2007 now?
[20:09] <lstarnes> `mOOse`: then how are you booting ubuntu?
[20:09] <Supersaiyan_IV> Anyone here that has an "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN" and experiences random disconnects? The device is permanently down afterwards, reloading the iwlagn module doesn't help. If you experience this have you tried solving this with beta ucode? Any solutions?
[20:10] <`mOOse`> this is a flashdrive with persistent casper-rw
[20:10] <lstarnes> raj: edit your xorg.conf to add the new resolutions
[20:10] <nanoguy> raj: I have the same problem
[20:10] <lstarnes> `mOOse`: are you using the isolinux/syslinux bootloader?
[20:10] <stevecoh1> Does anyone know what "Ubuntu Firefox Extensions 0.8" is?  That is not the plugin I suspected but I didn't even know it was there.  What does it do and is it necessary?
[20:10] <stevecoh1> does firefox log errors somewhere so I might get a better handle on what the problem is?
[20:11] <Threetimes> Hi, is there a way to display the contents of a XML file like http://top2009.radio2.nl/data/dallet/onair.xml in my GNOME panel? I want to see what song is playing...
[20:11] <`mOOse`> yes syslinux but I'm ignorant how it works
[20:11] <saica> lstarnes: hm.. /etc/target/initramfs-tools is empty except for comments. no modules of any kind are specified there.
[20:11] <lstarnes> stevecoh1: I think it might contain some ubuntu-specific functionality, like handling apt:// urls
[20:11] <ardchoille> stevecoh1: that sounds like the ubufox extension: apt-cache show ubufox
[20:11] <evilaim> Quick question: I have a Dedicated box, I want to add IRSSI so that ALL users can use it.  How would I go about doing that?
[20:11] <nanoguy> 8-)
[20:12] <lstarnes> saica: what about modules or modules.conf in that directory?
[20:12] <stevecoh1> thanks lstarnes, so probably harmless, right?
[20:12] <lstarnes> evilaim: how are you installing it?
[20:12] <lstarnes> stevecoh1: most likely
[20:12] <evilaim> Sudo apt-get install irssi
[20:12] <ardchoille> evilaim: just install it normally with your package manager
[20:12] <stevecoh1> so then is there a log I can look at?
[20:12] <lstarnes> evilaim: the package maneger always installs things for all users
[20:12] <evilaim> Can't open /dev/null: Permission denied
[20:12] <evilaim> Segmentation fault
[20:12] <evilaim> I get that error when I run it as a user
[20:12] <ardchoille> stevecoh1: I don't of any logs for firefox
[20:12] <lstarnes> evilaim: that is very strange
[20:12] <evilaim> Very.
[20:12] <guntbert> stevecoh1: you might get better answers in #firefox (or in #firefox on irc.mozilla.org)
[20:12] <lstarnes> evilaim: what do you get from ls -l /dev/null?
 Can u plz tell me how to make it work
[20:13] <lstarnes> raj: no, sorry
[20:13] <stevecoh1> ok, thanks, well I removed a couple of plugins, let's see if it works.
[20:13] <lstarnes> raj: I am not good with xorg.conf
[20:13] <saica> the line I added to /etc/modules is missing. dm-raid4-5 is not specified anymore.
[20:13] <macman_> what is the best dvd rip app for ubuntu ? i hear k3b / k9copy .. that is about it any other ideas ?
[20:13] <evilaim> lstarnes: crw------- 1 root root 1, 3 May 14  2009 /dev/null
[20:13] <lstarnes> saica: /etc/modules isn't used by initramfs
[20:14] <lstarnes> saica: or at least I don't think it is
[20:14] <lstarnes> saica: what about /etc/initramfs-tools/modules?
[20:14] <lstarnes> evilaim: try sudo chmod og+rw /dev/null
[20:14] <ssv1994> hello, what driver does ati radeon x1600 video card use for default?
[20:14] <samih> erUSUL : no result, is there another step that I must do?
[20:14] <evilaim> Worked, thanks.
[20:15] <ardchoille> evilaim: here is mine on Jaunty:  crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 2009-11-08 11:50 /dev/null
[20:15] <quizme> how do i view a .hidden file using the Gnome file browser ?
[20:15] <lstarnes> evilaim: you might need to edit /etc/udev/rules.d/40-basic-permissions.rules
[20:15] <Out_Cold> quizme, try alt + h
[20:15] <ardchoille> quizme: ctrl+h
[20:16] <lstarnes> quizme: ctrl+h (the file browser is called nautilus)
[20:16] <Out_Cold> oh ctrl
[20:16] <saica> lstarnes: as i said, nothings is specified at all in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules. shall I add something there? is there any way to protect this file from being overwritten with another blank?
[20:16] <quizme> thank you!
[20:16] <lstarnes> saica: that shouldn't be overwritten
[20:16] <quizme> that worked!
[20:16] <lstarnes> saica: yes, use that
[20:16] <lstarnes> saica: it's what I use for my framebuffer modules
[20:16] <saica> lstarnes: i know.
[20:17] <domnukalu> hello, can drivers for Realtek audio be found? My sound doesn't want to start. (on KK)
[20:17] <ssv1994> is fgrlx driver legal?
[20:17] <ardchoille> quizme: you can make that permanent by going into the View tab in the options and setting "Show hidden and backup files"
[20:17] <lstarnes> ssv1994: why wouldn't it be?
[20:17] <raj> can someone plz help me change the screen resolution, its showing me only 800*600 in display options
[20:17] <ssv1994> I just don't know
[20:17] <quizme> ardchoille: thanks a lot!
[20:17] <samih> domnukalu I've the same problem
[20:18] <lstarnes> ssv1994: it's legal, or ubuntu wouldn't include it
[20:18] <ssv1994> oh, you are wright
[20:18] <samih> drivers exists in realtek website
[20:18] <lstarnes> !fixres | raj
[20:18] <samih> but I have difficulties in installing it
[20:18] <WatchMan> Using Karmic, I have problems streaming videos fullscreen... hardware drivers updated.. any tips?
[20:19] <WatchMan> videos lag when streamed fullscreen.. seems like drivers are updated.. what could it be?
[20:19] <ssv1994> WatchMan: in ubuntu 10.04 all problems will be fixed
[20:19] <saica> lstarnes: so i am not completely sure that my trouble is just the dmraid module. I'll get back to you after rebooting, but it may also be that udev isn't loading, or possibly no kernel modules are loaded whatsoever. Worse than that, after reading countless pages of forums, wikis, and even chatlogs in attempts to get my system booting again; every solution that succeeds is eventually thwarted.
[20:19] <Supersaiyan_IV> WatchMan, are you using 64bit ubuntu?
[20:19] <WatchMan> ssv1994, was that ironic?
[20:20] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: is there a way were you can group all the feeds together?
[20:20] <WatchMan> Supersaiyan_IV, no 32
[20:20] <ssv1994> no, watchman, they really are doing something with video, I hope
[20:20] <sime1> so
[20:21] <macman_> im trying to enable dma for my drive i did a mount |egrep 'udf|iso9660' and it dosen't say /dev/hdc something i get a /dev/sr0 .. any ideas on how to fix ?
[20:21] <WatchMan> ssv1994, you have the same problem? Do you know when its released
[20:21] <Supersaiyan_IV> WatchMan, i see, if you said 64bit I would recommend the 64bit adobe flashplugin beta.
[20:21] <erUSUL> microhaxo: sorry away from the keyboard for a while. the forum post explains how to add the scripts in the correct places via the "install" command at the end
[20:21] <sime1> hey guys i have a problem with my network printer it seems i cant get it to connect to my ubuntu machine
[20:21] <mataks> anyone familiar with deep freeze in windows? is there like deep freeze here in linux?
[20:21] <macman_> ah i have an atapi drive
[20:21] <macman_> i think i can fix this
[20:21] <erUSUL> samih: no; sorry did not worked :|
[20:22] <erUSUL> samih: you shouldn't use that driver.
[20:22] <ssv1994> I have a radeon x1600 card and some guys told me, that in ubuntu 10.04 my problem will be solved
[20:22] <Supersaiyan_IV> mataks, there are kernel panics, apart from that wortcase the gui can crash, but you can always fallback to CLI
[20:22] <samih> erUsul : why?
[20:22] <Supersaiyan_IV> mataks, gui can be restarted
[20:23] <sime1> does anyone know how to setup a wireless printer to ubuntu
[20:23] <Supersaiyan_IV> mataks, in this case gui can be either gnome or kde
[20:23] <quizme> is there a way to right click and open up a terminal right in that directory?
[20:23] <erUSUL> samih: is just a sanpshot of what the kernel already provides. probably out of date. the chances of it to work are dim
[20:23] <mota_> hi I am new to linux what would you guys recommended I study in order to learn it proficiently ?
[20:23] <sb51g> kann wer deutsch ?
[20:23] <lstarnes> !de
[20:23] <samih> ok
[20:23] <evergrenn> hello
[20:24] <erUSUL> quizme: install nautilus-open-terminal
[20:24] <ssv1994> sime1: go to system/administration/printing
[20:24] <respecting> hi please i'm searching for a library to capture and send icm ip TCP packet(something like winpcap in windows) any help?
[20:24] <mota_> hi ever green :)
[20:24] <guntbert> !tldp | mota_
[20:24] <samih> erUSUL, is there a way to undo the command you recomanded to me, it took lot of space
[20:24] <ardchoille> quizme: Follow what erUSUL said and restart nautilus. you will see a new entry in the context menu
[20:25] <erUSUL> samih: lot? should only take a few MB
[20:25] <Supersaiyan_IV> mota_, browse http://ubuntuforums.org/ and learn through there, https://help.ubuntu.com is also a Godsend
[20:25] <sime1> ssv1994: ok i did and it says and it says no printer shares found
[20:25]  * ardchoille feels that nautilus-open-terminal should be installed by default
[20:25] <respecting> some help
[20:25] <quizme> awesome thanks guys
[20:25] <saica> forgot to update-initramfs before rebooting. at least i can type out the message i'm getting at boot, but it isn't much use.
[20:25] <erUSUL> samih: also you have to resetar after doing « sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic »
[20:25] <ssv1994> then it looks, that the printer is not available, sorry :(
[20:25] <respecting> hi please i'm searching for a library to capture and send icm ip TCP packet(something like winpcap in windows) any help?
[20:25] <mota_> thank you guntbert , ubottu and supersaiyan_IV :) I'll make sure to check them out :D
[20:26] <samih> erUSUL: I think about 130 mb - I restarted
[20:26] <Slyone> He guys, I have an intel graphiccard and somehow it doesnt support 3d graphics, what to do???
[20:26] <erUSUL> respecting: libcap2 ?
[20:26] <guntbert> mota_: np - have fun :-)
[20:26] <erUSUL> !intel
[20:26] <respecting> thank you
[20:27] <samih> erUSUL : what id libcap2? I'm beginner
[20:27] <ardchoille> !info libcap2
[20:27] <aolko> Hi PPL
[20:27] <sime1> ssv1994:ssv1994: but it is because someone else is able to use it and it also says to check that samba service is marked as trusted on firewall settings
[20:27] <samih> erUSUL: sorry it was not for me
[20:27] <aolko> HoW to ReBrand UBUNTU?
[20:27] <erUSUL> samih: np ;)
[20:27] <ssv1994> sime1, maybe you can try interring the device url
[20:27] <erUSUL> !remaster
[20:28] <Slyone> should i download and install the netbook remix? Does it support my intel graphicscard???
[20:28] <Supersaiyan_IV> Slyone, type "glxinfo" in a terminal, does it say "direct rendering: Yes" ?
[20:28] <erUSUL> !u | aolko
[20:28] <sime1> ssv1994: how do i do that
[20:28] <aolko> no
[20:28] <aolko> i need
[20:28] <ssv1994> it was a comand lusb
[20:28] <aolko> to rebrand
[20:28] <Slyone> Supersaiyan_IV, it says yes
[20:28] <ssv1994> I don't remember
[20:28] <aolko> such change default logos e.t.c
[20:28] <Supersaiyan_IV> Slyone, then 3d is supported
[20:29] <guntbert> !ot | aolko
[20:29] <sime1> ssv: oh i get it
[20:29] <Slyone> Supersaiyan_IV, but its lagging in any game
[20:29] <Supersaiyan_IV> Slyone, do you run compiz effects simultaneously?
[20:29] <Slyone> Supersaiyan_IV, no
[20:29] <saica> for /sbin/usplash, /sbin/udevd, and dmraid: "error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory" then "Gave up waiting for root device. Common problems:" and some useful tips and "ALERT! /dev/mapper/nvidia_dgcgcffh1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" and i get a BusyBox. Unfotunately, it seems there are no keyboard drivers loaded so busybox is useless.
[20:30] <Supersaiyan_IV> Slyone, there are always beta drivers, but it's no neat way to improve the performance
[20:31] <Slyone> Supersaiyan_IV, I want to play some nintendo 64 games!!!
[20:31] <saica> i'm going to boot back to livecd and make sure to update-initramfs this time, but I think there's more to this problem.
[20:31] <Supersaiyan_IV> Slyone, which emulator are you using?
[20:31] <Slyone> Supersaiyan_IV, The problem is not the emulator , trust me
[20:32] <gorgomol> join #kierra
[20:32] <Slyone> Supersaiyan_IV, Every game i tried: for example nexuiz is lagging
[20:32] <Supersaiyan_IV> Slyone, hope somebody else can help, not much experience with Intel graphics
[20:32] <Slyone> Supersaiyan_IV, Nobody can help me
[20:33] <Supersaiyan_IV> Slyone, what is the graphics chip?
[20:33] <Slyone> Supersaiyan_IV, 945 GMS
[20:34] <mjunaid> hi, how can i make my desktop look like the one shown here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=437694
[20:35] <microhaxo> Dammit, i cant get this power saving stuff to execute in /etc/rc.local This is what i have: http://www.nopaste.nl/?paste=1597
[20:35] <Supersaiyan_IV> Slyone, i see, many are experiencing that issue, i found a solution, but will look some more
[20:36] <lstarnes> microhaxo: use sudo -u username command
[20:36] <Andrevan> hey can I use ubuntu to make a supercomputing cluster of some kind?
[20:37] <Supersaiyan_IV> Slyone, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 im looking here at the moment
[20:37] <microhaxo> ok, ill give it a try!
[20:38] <bbrooks> hey guys trying to run this script and getting error...bbrooks@portals:~/Desktop$ sudo ./vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.31-14-install.sh sudo: ./vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.31-14-install.sh: command not found
[20:38] <invisime> so I'm trying to follow the comprehensive sound card solutions thread to fix the sound on my desktop ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 ), but the link in step 3 is out dated.
[20:38] <Supersaiyan_IV> Slyone, if I were you I'd go for "Part B (Safe/Optimal)" part in the guide
[20:38] <bbrooks> why does it say file not found
[20:38] <Slyone> ah k
[20:38] <invisime> how do I find what driver is required for my soundcard?
[20:39] <joe_> invisime: did you try google?
[20:39] <guntbert> bbrooks: you need to cd into the directory after expanding the file
[20:39] <microhaxo> lstarnes: the script still isnt being ran :|
[20:40] <saica> mjunaid: that desktop is not real.
[20:40] <Supersaiyan_IV> Slyone, read all of the guide first though, part ! is mandatory
[20:40] <scott_ino2> hello, can anyone tell me the estimated time it takes for fdisk to fix an "unclean filesystem" for an ntfs 60gb drive.
[20:40] <lstarnes> microhaxo: what do you get from ls -l /home/blake/Power_Saving?
[20:40] <Supersaiyan_IV> Slyone, part A *
[20:40] <lstarnes> microhaxo: also, try running that as root
[20:40] <Slyone> Supersaiyan_IV, im too lazy to read all this shit
[20:41] <invisime> joe_: yes, I did.
[20:41] <mjunaid> saics: yes, i know, but it was posted back in 2007, i thought it might have been realised by now.
[20:41] <iainbuclaw> Slyone, oh my...
[20:41] <`mOOse`> ok, well, the only thing I've changed since my last backup is adding a buncha bookmarks, so I'm backing up FF now and rebooting - I doubt this will work, but!
[20:41] <invisime> joe_: though it's more than possible that I didn't use the appropriate search terms.
[20:41] <Supersaiyan_IV> Slyone, hehe, it's the only way to accelerate the graphics, the problem lies in the detection of the graphic card's videoram
[20:41] <sb51g> exit
[20:41] <mjunaid> sorry, saica, i wanted to say.
[20:41] <microhaxo> lstarnes: -rwxr-xr-x 1 blake blake 610 2009-12-26 13:05 /home/blake/Power_Saving
[20:41] <`mOOse`> I wish there was a way to globally suppress updating kernels!
[20:41] <Supersaiyan_IV> Slyone, ubuntu allocates less memory than the graphics card actually has
[20:42] <Supersaiyan_IV> Slyone, thats why the wall of text :P
[20:42] <lstarnes> microhaxo: those permissions look good
[20:43] <lstarnes> microhaxo: but I think that what you're trying to do might be better done via sysctl
[20:43] <microhaxo> what is sysctl?
[20:43] <xfact> I am a new linux use currently using Ubuntu 8.4, want to upgrade my system to 8.10 then 9.04 for batter experience, what you guys think? Is that a correct discussion?]
[20:43] <lstarnes> microhaxo: it manages system paramaters
[20:43] <lstarnes> microhaxo: like the ones that you are setting in that script
[20:43] <lstarnes> *parameters
[20:44] <joshua__> what's the option to make cpio preserve uid/gid by ID rather than NAME?
[20:44] <xfact> I am a new linux use currently using Ubuntu 8.4, want to upgrade my system to 8.10 then 9.04 for batter experience, what you guys think? Is that a correct discussion?]
[20:44] <lstarnes> microhaxo: however, I didn't notice that if/then/else conditional in there, and that can't be used with sysctl
[20:44] <lstarnes> microhaxo: so the script is probably the best option
[20:44] <microhaxo> Can i just add the script to my Startup programs?
[20:45] <xfact> anybody can give me right suggestion?
[20:45] <lstarnes> microhaxo: that would only be executed when you do a graphical login
[20:45] <xfact> I am a new linux use currently using Ubuntu 8.4, want to upgrade my system to 8.10 then 9.04 for batter experience, what you guys think? Is that a correct discussion?]
[20:45] <guntbert> xfact: if you want to keep most of your settings/data - yes; if there is not much on your old system anyway consider a fresh install of 9.10
[20:45] <anna> hi there ! i have problem installing samba, the package is not found (404) on the server...
[20:45] <qwerkus> hi: how do you share sound between multiple apps in Ubuntu 9.10 ? Right now, having one application (vlc) using the soundcard denies access to any other (skype), which die with a 'soundcard' arror ?
[20:45] <lstarnes> microhaxo: you can actually add the full text of the script to rc.local
[20:45] <PrototypeX29A> xfact: if you are not missing anything you could just stay with 8.04 for a while
[20:45] <Supersaiyan_IV> microhaxo, http://linux.die.net/man/8/sysctl
[20:45] <microhaxo> lstarnes: I did that but it doesn't work still. Powertop reporting that none of the commands have been executed.
[20:46] <Pelo> xfact, the easiest surely but the longest ,  I recommend you dl the alternate isntall cds that way you can upgrade from the cds and not from online, that at least shuld be faster
[20:46] <Out_Cold> xfact, i ALWAYS back up my data and do a fresh install. if you have a separate /home partition, this makes things fairly easy
[20:46] <microhaxo> Maybe rc.local is trying to execute before they are initialized?
[20:46] <xfact> PrototypeX29A: but i hope Ubuntu 9.04 has batter features... isn't that right?
[20:46] <velcroshooz> running xubuntu 9.10, screenlets refuse to remember position or size on restart .. any suggestions?
[20:46] <DeannaT2> xfact, then you wait for the next LT and you can upgrade directly
[20:46] <PrototypeX29A> xfact: depends on the expectations
[20:47] <PrototypeX29A> xfact: are you missing a feature?
[20:47] <xfact> Out_Cold:not much, but i want more nice experiences!
[20:48] <Pelo> DeannaT2, and when is the next LTS ? will it be Lynx in april ?
[20:48] <saica> mjunaid: have you seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1167391 ? i can't find any how-to or downloads, but someone was working on this recently
[20:48] <lstarnes> Pelo: probbaly
[20:48] <microhaxo> lstarnes: I even added the script to the startup programs and it STILL doesn't work. I am beginning to think that one of the boolean values are not being recognized or initialized to begin with.
[20:48] <lstarnes> *probably
[20:48] <`mOOse`> heh
[20:48] <xfact> OS upgrade is a long time process?
[20:48] <lstarnes> xfact: somewhat
[20:49] <Out_Cold> xfact, depends on how skilled you are and if you make mistakes or need to install new packages
[20:49] <lstarnes> microhaxo: where is on_ac_power defined?
[20:49] <microhaxo> No idea, i got that code from: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=729644&page=1
[20:49] <microhaxo> i assumed it was globally defined.
[20:49] <Supersaiyan_IV> xfact, no longer than downloading and replacing 600-700mb of packages
[20:49] <DeannaT2> pelo, yes
[20:49] <lstarnes> microhaxo: ah, it's a system utility
[20:50] <Out_Cold> Supersaiyan_IV, except that you have to first download the 600-700mb first then install the 600-700mb after :p
[20:50] <Pelo> xfact, I decided to agree with the others,  wait for april and 10.04, it's gonna be a lot easier,   I still recommend you dl the alternate install cd and upgrade from that , much easier
[20:50] <xfact> no I will just click on 'upgrade' button in the update manager then it should 'automatically' run everything....
[20:50] <microhaxo> lstarnes: how can i make that  just simply run in the starup programs?
[20:50] <Supersaiyan_IV> Out_Cold, no it's not simultaneous unfortunately :P
[20:50] <linuxghost> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/TP-Link_TL-WN620G_(ndiswrapper) im using ubuntu 9.10 and lsusb says no firmware AR5523 and this http://wiki.debian.org/ar5523#supported the patch step doesnt run
[20:51] <Out_Cold> xfact, that may 'wreck' your computer...
[20:51] <guntbert> xfact: did you read !upgrade ?
[20:51] <lstarnes> microhaxo: I wouldn't use the startup programs list for non-graphical things
[20:51] <Pelo> xfact,  when you do that it will download all the upgrade it can take a great deal of time,  10 hrs or more in some cases
[20:51] <guntbert> !upgrade | xfact
[20:51] <lstarnes> microhaxo: /etc/rc.local should work
[20:51] <microhaxo> lstarnes: ok, when i do sudo -u blake how do i get around not entering a password at boot?
[20:52] <lstarnes> microhaxo: if it's root issuing that, it shouldn't need a password
[20:52] <xfact> yes upgrade!
[20:52] <Out_Cold> xfact, just backup anything you aren't willing to lose
[20:53] <linuxghost> help me, im trying to use TP-Link TL-WN620G Wi-Fi USB .Ive followed the thread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/TP-Link_TL-WN620G_(ndiswrapper) im using ubuntu 9.10 and lsusb says no firmware AR5523 and this http://wiki.debian.org/ar5523#supported the patch step doesnt run
[20:53] <rsc___> hey everyone!
[20:53] <rsc___> this may be late, but, merry christmas.
[20:53] <rsc___> :D
[20:53] <xfact> well, i am a new linux user, just turned from windows...so not much idea about these stuffs....
[20:53] <macman_> question .. i want to arrange icons on my desktop by name .. do i have to do this in gconf-editor or is  there another way
[20:53] <xfact> how to backup data on ubuntu?
[20:54] <Out_Cold> xfact, in my own experiences i have lost lots of time and data when trying to use the upgrade feature.. i only do fresh installs now.
[20:54] <od3n> does anyone know if changing your keyboard would cause your bluetooth to not show up
[20:54] <mjunaid> hi, i have Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture TV Card in my ubuntu system, how can i use Kaffeine to watch the Cable transmission on my PC, Kaffeine does not seem to have any option where i can select the Input Source as the TV Card
[20:54] <supertux1> xfact dd
[20:54] <microhaxo> lstarnes: i have rebooted 12 times, if this last TIME does not fix this then i dont know what the hell to do..
[20:54] <Out_Cold> xfact, copy what you need... ie pics, music, vids, pr0n
[20:54] <DeannaT2> xfact, its easy to upgrade from LTS - to LTS, this is possible directly and all what you want to safe, you safe it on an usb-stick or an other extern place
[20:54] <arniokas> Is somedy using mc?
[20:54] <arniokas> somebody*
[20:54] <supertux1> xfact dd is a choise but leave it for now
[20:54] <xfact> ohh...these way...
[20:54] <rsc___> xfact: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeVault
[20:55] <supertux1> xfact tar too
[20:55] <rsc___> there may be something better than timevault right now but im not sure what it is :b
[20:55] <supertux1> and onother app but i didn't remember the name
[20:55] <xfact> well, anybody know when actually next LTS will release?
[20:55] <Flannel> xfact: 10.04 will be LTS
[20:55] <DeannaT2> xfact, in april
[20:55] <linuxghost> help me, im trying to use TP-Link TL-WN620G Wi-Fi USB .Ive followed the thread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/TP-Link_TL-WN620G_(ndiswrapper) im using ubuntu 9.10 and lsusb says no firmware AR5523 and this http://wiki.debian.org/ar5523#supported the patch step doesnt run
[20:56] <xfact> woh...long wait for long term release!
[20:56] <Out_Cold> xfact, what things do you have on your ubuntu sys??
[20:57] <saica> lstarnes: after adding dm-raid4-5 to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and running "update-initramfs -u -k all" i have the same problem. unbootable system. unusable busybox.
[20:57] <xfact> Out_Cold: Well thats a long question,
[20:57] <xfact> lots of stuffs!
[20:58] <tr_> I think I need to disable a kernel option to make an old usb scanner work... google reports many hits on the UMAX Astra3400 says: disable USB_SUSPEND... all the ubuntu kernel howtos seem outdated... and I am a kernel compile newb. Any advice?
[20:58] <invisime> "WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat, it will be ignored in a future release."
[20:58] <invisime> whoops.
[20:58] <invisime> that was without context. :(
[20:58] <microhaxo> lstarnes: i put that code exactly into rc.local and it still isnt running.
[20:58] <xfact> ok, what actually the difference between the 'normal' and 'LTS' release?
[20:58] <microhaxo> i dont know why but it wont run.
[20:58] <Out_Cold> xfact, what do you need to keep? and is it all located in /home/?
[20:58] <invisime> it's the output I get when I try to step 4 in the comprehensive sound problem solver thread thingy.
[20:59] <Supersaiyan_IV> xfact, the only things that may be lost in an upgrade are configuration files
[20:59] <Out_Cold> xfact, LTS is supported for like 3 years where as normal releases are usually supported for 6 months or so
[20:59] <lstarnes> Out_Cold: 18 months for regular releases
[20:59] <Supersaiyan_IV> xfact, and that is due to compatibility issues, or new standards
[20:59] <Out_Cold> oh... 18 months
[20:59] <xfact> Out_Cold: no most of my data is far from Ubuntu filesystem....
[20:59] <saica> LTS == Long Term Service (Canonical and the Ubuntu community are commited to maintaining this version for a longer period of time)
[21:00] <Out_Cold> xfact, is it stored in a separate partition??
[21:00] <xfact> Out_Cold: yes stored in windows xp partition
[21:00] <linuxghost> help me, im trying to use TP-Link TL-WN620G Wi-Fi USB .Ive followed the thread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/TP-Link_TL-WN620G_(ndiswrapper) im using ubuntu 9.10 and lsusb says no firmware AR5523 and this http://wiki.debian.org/ar5523#supported the patch step doesnt run
[21:00] <DeannaT2> xfact, then you must be afraid *think* :-)
[21:01] <mka> saica, LTS = Long Term Support
[21:01] <microhaxo> lstarnes: is there a way for me to run rc.local to see if it works while already booted?
[21:01] <Out_Cold> xfact, then a fresh install won't do you any harm... and it'll be quicker and less of a headache on re-configuring
[21:01] <saica> lol oops
[21:01] <lstarnes> microhaxo: sudo /etc/rc.local
[21:01] <saica> thank you mka
[21:02] <DeannaT2> xfact, sry must not be afraid..
[21:02] <microhaxo> lstarnes: even after i run it, powetop still says
[21:02] <microhaxo> "enable sata alpm link power management via: echo min_power >  etc blah ablah
[21:02] <microhaxo> "
[21:02] <xfact> ok, i want to know also, what about normal releases, after 6 months, will those be left as just 'support less' systems?
[21:03] <saica> btw... any more ideas on how to get initramfs to load modules? and how to ensure it will continue to do so after being updated? or how to get keyboard modules loaded so I can use BusyBox when I get dropped into it?
[21:03] <lstarnes> xfact: it's 18 months, not 6
[21:03] <Out_Cold> xfact, **18 months
[21:03] <lstarnes> xfact: after that time, it won't be officially supported and it will stop recieving updates
[21:03] <linuxghost> help me, im trying to use TP-Link TL-WN620G Wi-Fi USB .Ive followed the thread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/TP-Link_TL-WN620G_(ndiswrapper) im using ubuntu 9.10 and lsusb says no firmware AR5523 and this http://wiki.debian.org/ar5523#supported the patch step doesnt run
[21:03] <xfact> thats bad
[21:03] <lstarnes> xfact: also, many mirrors if not most of them will remove the repositories for that version
[21:03] <Out_Cold> xfact, and yes... they no longer fix bugs or provide a lot of help, although most of us will still help out if we can
[21:04] <mka> xfact, if you dont upgrade a normal (ie non-LTS) version then you will be supportless after 18 months
[21:04] <lstarnes> xfact: it's standard practice for old versions of anything, not just ubuntu
[21:04] <macman_> anyone using itunes with ubuntu / wine ?
[21:04] <microhaxo> lstarnes: this script is in c right?
[21:04] <xfact> LTS validity is 3 yrs?
[21:04] <DeannaT2> xfact, no, thats not bad, if you want a newer system you can upgrade ore use the old one so long as it works well
[21:04] <songer> hello
[21:04] <lstarnes> microhaxo: no, bash
[21:04] <mka> xfact, yes and for server edition it's 5years
[21:04] <Out_Cold> xfact, yes 3 yrs
[21:04] <lstarnes> microhaxo: or unix bourne shell
[21:04] <linuxghost> help me, im trying to use TP-Link TL-WN620G Wi-Fi USB .Ive followed the thread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/TP-Link_TL-WN620G_(ndiswrapper) im using ubuntu 9.10 and lsusb says no firmware AR5523 and this http://wiki.debian.org/ar5523#supported the patch step doesnt run
[21:05] <Pelo> macman_, why not try songbird,  very similar to itune in look and feel and there is a linux verson ,  just google for it
[21:05] <microhaxo> what is the bash command to print out a word so i can see if it made it past the boolean value?
[21:05] <lstarnes> microhaxo: echo
[21:05] <invisime> how can you confirm that a module has actually been loaded. that is, how can you tell if modprobe has executed successfully?
[21:05] <xfact> cool then I have support till 2012 ( untill the doomsday comes) lol :)
[21:05] <invisime> microhaxo: echo
[21:05] <mka> macman_, what about rhythmbox on gnome or amarok on kde?
[21:05] <guntbert> invisime: lsmod | grep <modulename>
[21:05] <Out_Cold> xfact, i think it's 2011 it stops
[21:05] <microhaxo> then there is a big problem, lol. I see NO echo's when i run it. So that must mean the conditional statements are not initialized ever.
[21:05] <Pelo> invisime, lsmod | grep  coupleofletters
[21:06] <saica> invisime: try "cat /proc/modules
[21:06] <microhaxo> so on_ac_power never is found ?
[21:06] <rvalles> hi
[21:06] <xfact> oh
[21:06] <rvalles> any way to disable network manager for good?
[21:06] <mka> Hiall, rvalles
[21:06] <saica> * "cat /proc/modules/"
[21:06] <nikolaj_basher> God evening
[21:06] <nikolaj_basher> :D
[21:06] <rvalles> family member's wireless network just broke, again
[21:06] <rvalles> because of the damned thing
[21:07] <xfact> do you think windows xp viruses can herm ubuntu system?
[21:07]  * rvalles has it configured via /etc/network/interfaces, but network manager decides once in a while to "take over"...
[21:07] <lstarnes> xfact: no
[21:07] <Raydiation> hi, can anyone help me setting up an mtp server? the how tos are confusing
[21:07] <lstarnes> xfact: at worst, they might be able to affect programs installed usder wine
[21:07] <lstarnes> *under
[21:07] <DeannaT2> xfact, no :-)
[21:07] <mka> rvalles, how sure are you it's network manager?
[21:08] <jacob_> Hi i'm using ubuntu 9.10 and cannot get it to read my external hard drive....any thoughts?
[21:08] <mka> xfact, no
[21:08] <xfact> ok
[21:08] <nikolaj_basher> Can you get a shared calender system in ubuntu
[21:08] <microhaxo> lstarnes: Found the problem. ubuntu 9.10 doesn't recognize on_ac_power. How can i find the equivalent boolean value?
[21:08] <nikolaj_basher> ?
[21:08] <invisime> jacob_: have you tried power cylcing the external?
[21:08] <lstarnes> microhaxo: I'm not sure
[21:08] <Pelo> jacob_, what files system is your ext-hdd in ?
[21:08] <rvalles> mka: it's always nm
[21:08] <mka> jacob_, does the external HDD require to be powered to the mains?
[21:09] <xfact> anybody using sub woofer and headphone both with ubuntu, and is it working..? because mine is not working....
[21:09] <jacob_> yea i have power cycled it.....it is NTFS format.....and i'm not sure what you mean mka
[21:09] <Out_Cold> xfact, other than the fact that viruses for windows are built on a win32 platform, they also need sudo privs to install and start the chaos
[21:09] <xfact> ok
[21:09] <Pelo> jacob_, try installing   nfts-config and run it from the menu while the ext-hdd is plugged in and powered on
[21:10] <mka> jacob_, I mean do you plug it in the power socket in the wall
[21:10] <jacob_> mka yes
[21:10] <xfact> anybody using sub woofer and headphone both with ubuntu, and is it working..? because mine is not working.... what to do?
[21:10] <rvalles> mka: it works... until user logs in
[21:10] <Pelo> !sound | xfact
[21:10] <Out_Cold> xfact, check out alsamixer in terminal
[21:10] <rvalles> mka: and then nm applet is launched by gnome
[21:10] <jacob_> Pelo:  installing now
[21:10] <nikolaj_basher> can it be true that ubuntu doesn't have a share calender system, that's sound wird ?
[21:10] <rvalles> mka: and everything f-s over
[21:11] <mka> rvalles, how sure that nm is the one breaking your wireless?
[21:11] <rvalles> mka: 100%
[21:11] <Out_Cold> rvalles, have you tried wicd?
[21:11] <saica> ok so... i am seriously about to just give up on ubuntu because of this... every second or third time i upgrade packages my system becomes unbootable. I usually end up formatting and reinstalling from scratch. I have had the same problem with Intrepid, Jaunty and Karmic. Karmic was installing a partition table that couldn't be read by  grub. Intrepid needed to have configuration files fixed. Jaunty, which I am using now, suddenly breaks
[21:12] <xfact> Pelo: not that problem, my sound driver is working fine, but only one line in jack is supporting to play, my second line in jack is not active...how to active both?
[21:12] <mka> rvalles, then what if you uninstall it?
[21:12] <jacob_> pelo do i tell it to enable write support for external device?
[21:12] <Out_Cold> saica, this seems like a very uncommon problem... are you trying all these installs on the same system?
[21:12] <rvalles> mka: ...
[21:12] <Pelo> saica, would those be the times when you update the kernel ? and when you do are you sure that grub is being updated properly ?
[21:12] <rvalles> mka: ubuntu depends on it in many ways than one
[21:12] <Out_Cold> xfact, try alsamixer
[21:12] <Pelo> jacob_, do you want to write to the external hdd ?
[21:12] <microhaxo> Can anyone tell me where i can find powermgmt-base in 9.10 ?
[21:13] <rvalles> mka: they're going to sleep now,a nd so am I
[21:13]  * rvalles remote.
[21:13] <microhaxo> on_ac_power is located in there, and it is not recognized.
[21:13] <xfact> Out_Cold: where to get alsa mixer?
[21:13] <jacob_> Pelo: probably will need to at some point...but for now i just need to be able to get info off it
[21:13] <saica> this page has a solution to a similar (if not the same) problem by copying an initramfs from a running system: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-initrd-bug.html
[21:13] <rvalles> mka: it's a major pita... it happens once in a while, and does happen now that they've upgraded their ubuntu to current
[21:13] <Out_Cold> xfact, it's installed already.. run 'alsamixer' in a terminal
[21:13] <xfact> software center?
[21:13] <rvalles> (karmic)
[21:13] <xfact> ok
[21:13] <mka> rvalles, follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=527365
[21:13] <Pelo> jacob_, you won't be runnind ntfs-config everytime you want to use the ext-hdd I recommend you enable it now
[21:14] <dimitar> hi! what is the difference between ubuntu,kubuntu,xubuntu...is only difference just environment or something else?
[21:14] <rsc___> the difference would be the window manager they use.. the GUI
[21:14] <lstarnes> dimitar: the desktop environment and default applications are different
[21:14] <saica> Pelo: whenever packages that require and update-initramfs are installed. also I am sure that grub is NOT being updated properly. new kernels are never added to menu.lst unless I add them manually.
[21:14] <rsc___> plus the pre-loaded apps
[21:14] <rvalles> mka: bookmarket
[21:14] <Pelo> dimitar, mainly the enviro. but some progs change as a result and some env. are less demanding
[21:14] <rvalles> *d
[21:14] <lstarnes> dimitar: but the core system is the same
[21:14] <Out_Cold> xfact, look for MM on outputs or half bars that you can increase.. MM = off, press M to turn on
[21:14] <DeannaT2> dimitar, kubuntu has KDE, xubuntu xfce
[21:14] <rvalles> mka: I'll look into it monday or so
[21:15] <rvalles> being physically there
[21:15] <jacob_> Pelo: still not showing
[21:15] <DeannaT2> dimitar, ubuntu has gnome
[21:15] <Pelo> saica, when you upgrade the kernel you usaly are asked wheather or not to use the new grub list or stick with the old one ,  I don' tknow about initramfs howver
[21:15] <munk> hey all
[21:16] <mka> jacob_, pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:16] <dimitar> yes i know all the environments....what is the best?
[21:16] <Pelo> jacob_, that was my best guest ,    open a terminal and type lsusb , see if it is listed
[21:16] <Out_Cold> !best | dimitar
[21:16] <BobPenguin> hello guys. This might be silly but I cant find the answer on google. Which key do I have to press in order to get to choose which kernel to use in the GRUB thing before my system boots?
[21:16] <saica> Pelo, that part isn't important anyway. I can add the new kernel by hand or type it into the grub menu at boot.
[21:16] <xfact> what is the 'channel' in alsa mixer?
[21:16] <DeannaT2> dimitar, if you have an old pc or laptop xfce,, couse it need lowest ressource, the rest is what you like better
[21:17] <scott_ino2> anyone have experience using dd
[21:17] <lstarnes> BobPenguin: either press ESC or hold SHIFT
[21:17] <Out_Cold> xfact, depends on the system and hardware.... play around with them
[21:17] <iL_tRiX> j /chatchat
[21:17] <BobPenguin> thanks a lot Istarnes!
[21:17] <Out_Cold> xfact, also you may be able to 'scroll' to the right and see more options that are not displayed
[21:17] <Pelo> I have to go , laterfolks
[21:17] <jacob_> mka: Pelo  neither command shows it
[21:17] <xfact> well, i fixed all the sides to maximum, i hope now both jack will work....
[21:18] <munk> Ubuntu is doing something weird when mounting a ntfs partition. Testdisk lists all the files but in nautilus most of my files are hidden. Even if I go view hidden files they dont show up. It says there is 48GB of used space. Any ideas?
[21:18] <saica> is there a way to inspect an initramfs to be absolutely sure what modules it will load?
[21:18] <Out_Cold> xfact, are there any MM's??
[21:18] <xfact> yes MM is the 'master volume'
[21:18] <mka> jacob_, please paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:19] <Out_Cold> xfact, MM = muted.... press the M on it
[21:19] <jacob_> mka: jacob@jacob-laptop:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[21:19] <jacob_> Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>76 bytes
[21:19] <jacob_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
[21:19] <jacob_> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[21:19] <jacob_> Disk identifier: 0xfa52122d
[21:19] <FloodBot2> jacob_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:19] <jacob_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[21:19] <nailora> how do i install additional locales on an ubuntu server machine?
[21:19] <xfact> Out_Cold: it's already to maximum so I am hearing sound....
[21:19] <duffydack> how do you set swappines again?  im using 1.8gig of 4gig, and swap is getting used already
[21:20] <mka> jacob_, is your external hdd connected?
[21:20] <microhaxo> How can i use a variable from one package instead of another? My problem is: I try to use on_ac_power as a boolean value for a script, but in powermgmt-base it isnt working, but in pm-utils it reports back fine! So my script doesn't work because its trying to  use a boolean value that is never initialized.
[21:20] <Out_Cold> xfact, if it says MM it's muted OO is on
[21:20] <jacob_> mka: yes
[21:20] <Out_Cold> gotta go check out another computer next door...
[21:20] <Out_Cold> bbl
[21:21] <mka> jacob_, have you ever been able to mount this drive on ubuntu before?
[21:21] <xfact> " I am little bit confused, never faced these before, I always like GUI based things"
[21:21] <jacob_> mka: yes to ubuntu 9.04...but this is the first time i've tried to on 9.10
[21:21] <Out_Cold> xfact, you can install a gnome-alsamixer from the repos
[21:21] <arniokas> Whatfor are blocks in unixlikesystems?
[21:21] <Out_Cold> xfact, it's exactly the same but in gnome
[21:22] <xfact> Out_Cold: Ok how to install it?
[21:22] <mka> microhaxo, either pass the value as an argument to another script and find a way to initialize it
[21:23] <xfact> Via software center?
[21:23] <Out_Cold> xfact, go to terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer'
[21:23] <Out_Cold> xfact, or synaptic or software center
[21:23] <arniokas> For example: why should I determine blocksize using dd  bs=n?
[21:23] <ardchoille> arniokas:  A block device is a device you can read blocks from. For example hard disks, cdrom drives and floppies are block devices, but not the keyboard. You can receive data from the keyboard and regard them as blocks, but you cannot seek on the keyboard.
[21:23] <xfact> yes it's working....
[21:23] <mka> jacob_, reboot, and then do a dmesg | tail and then plug your HDD and do a dmesg | tail again
[21:24] <jacob_> mka: k thanks..be back in a minute
[21:24] <microhaxo> So there is no way i can do an if statement in bash while specifying on_ac_power from pm-utils instead of powermgmt-base ?
[21:24] <xfact> thanks
[21:25] <mka> microhaxo, can we go talk on private?
[21:25] <microhaxo> yea
[21:25] <Slyone> Can i see the key of my internet somewhere on my pc?
[21:25] <Schuenemann> can anyone recommend me a chess client in which I can freely move pieces to study a position?
[21:25] <Schuenemann> no computer gameplay
[21:26] <mota_> hi
[21:26] <Slyone> Can i see the key of my internet somewhere on my pc?
[21:26] <Schuenemann> Slyone,  what is this key you're looking for?
[21:26] <jacob_> mka:  can you send me that command again
[21:26] <xfact> I am having some problems like, in software center 'Firefox 3.0.16' is the latest version it's showing, but in real firefox already released 3.5.6 for linux...
[21:26] <mota_> I am having trouble seeing webpages for example I type lifehacker.com and it takes me to some wiki place whats wrong ?
[21:26] <mka> jacob_,  dmesg|tail
[21:27] <Slyone> Schuenemann, the access key for my router. Im logged in now, but can i see it on my computer somewhere?
[21:27] <ardchoille> xfact: that is the highest version available from the repositores
[21:28] <Schuenemann> Slyone,  the password?
[21:28] <xfact> oj
[21:28] <Slyone> Schuenemann, right
[21:28] <jacob_> mka: ok what am i looking for in this?
[21:28] <DeannaT2> Schuenemann, maybe gnome-chess is what you are looking for, in snaptic, i am not shure
[21:29] <Schuenemann> Slyone,  I'm not on ubuntu right now. In debian, there is file /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf that was it encrypted, but I have it commented there (the default is like that)
[21:29] <Schuenemann> Slyone,  try that
[21:29] <Out_Cold> xfact, unless you install by source or the websites, ubuntu software uses the last stable and tested version in the software center which can sometimes be a bit outdated
[21:30] <Schuenemann> DeannaT2,  is that the one that comes with gnome games/
[21:30] <ardchoille> Schuenemann: yes
[21:30] <DeannaT2> schuenemann or was it gnu-chess , sry
[21:30] <ardchoille> Schuenemann: and I don't think it can do what you want
[21:30] <Schuenemann> hmm not that, there is a computer there
[21:30] <Schuenemann> ardchoille,  right
[21:31] <ardchoille> Schuenemann: is it possible to set both players to "human" in gnome chess? Would that work?
[21:31] <Schuenemann> DeannaT2,  I have it installed, but what is the command to run it? it's not gnuchess
[21:32] <Schuenemann> ardchoille,  the problem is that I can take back a move
[21:32] <ardchoille> Schuenemann:  /usr/games/glchess
[21:32] <A[D]minS> may i know what is the meaning of this output of top "Cpu0  :  5.3%us,  6.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 88.1%id,  0.3%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.3%si,  0.0%st"
[21:32] <ardchoille> Schuenemann: Ah, ok
[21:32] <Schuenemann> I can't take back
[21:33] <A[D]minS> us stand for ? alss sy , ni , wa, hi , si , st
[21:33] <unop> A[D]minS, the top manpage should explain all this
[21:33] <Lord-Readman> where is a digital camera automounted to?
[21:33] <saica> is there anyone here with a highly detailed understanding of how ubuntu 9.04 boots?
[21:34] <Super8> Hello.
[21:34] <Lord-Readman> where is a digital camera automounted to?
[21:34] <DeannaT2> Schuenemann, i have it not installed, but maybe this will help you: http://www.gnu.org/software/chess/
[21:34] <ph33r> Super8: hi
[21:34] <Lord-Readman> where is a digital camera automounted to?
[21:34] <Super8> I downloaded .iso file of Ubuntu Gnome 9.04 - but I can't Burn It since I don't have any empty dvd/cd, how can I install it from my machine?
[21:34] <ardchoille> Schuenemann: there are some other chess clients n the repos: apt-cache search -n chess
[21:35] <invisime> Super8: what operating system does your computer currently have?
[21:35] <Super8> Win7.
[21:35] <Lord-Readman> hi all, when connecting a digital camera, where is it automounted too?
[21:35] <saica> Super8: try making a usb installer
[21:36] <Schuenemann> ardchoille,  yeah... I have tried some without any luck. All I see are engines or clients for internet play. I think I'd better ask in some chess community
[21:36] <Super8> How saica ?
[21:36] <Purpley> what are the numbers for chmod to allow only yourself to save edit and delete a file?
[21:36] <Super8> I tried downloading UNetbootin, but I dunno how to use it.. Is there anything similar?
[21:36] <Schuenemann> Purpley,  chmod u+w file
[21:37] <Jamed> Purpley: 600
[21:37] <Schuenemann> oh numbers
[21:37] <Purpley> thanks
[21:37] <saica> Super8: if you have a usb drive: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[21:37] <Purpley> is there a link to a tut on learning chmod?
[21:37] <Lord-Readman> hi all, when connecting a digital camera, where is it automounted too?
[21:38] <Lord-Readman> http://www.zzee.com/solutions/linux-permissions.shtml
[21:38] <rsr> Purpley: Just man chmod
[21:38] <Schuenemann> Purpley,  man chmod
[21:38] <Renny> hola por casualidad alguien habla espamol
[21:38] <Super8> saica Okay, thanks.
[21:38] <Renny> Español
[21:38] <Lord-Readman> where is a digital camera automounted to?
[21:38] <Schuenemann> !es
[21:38] <ardchoille> Schuenemann: yeah. Good luck
[21:39] <MarceloBR> hi!
[21:40] <zevlag> What's the best way to securely wipe a running system?  I don't have physical access to the box, but can su as to root.  I want to wipe the physical drive.  It's going to be repurposed and sold.
[21:40] <joe_> hey guys what does it mean when my wireless card is "UNCLAIMED"?
[21:40] <invisime> so when I run 'aplay -l' as I get no sound card found. but when I run 'sudo aplay -l' it works properly. this user is already a member of the 'sound' group. what could be wrong?
[21:40] <jpds> joe_: No application is managing it?
[21:40] <strywgr> I cant view the TOP panel.. anyone can help?
[21:41] <strywgr> i don't know where its gone :o
[21:41] <joe_> so do i need a driver, because it definately isn't working
[21:41] <Slart> !rip
[21:41] <saica> Super8: also, there are lots of other programs that do what UNetbootin does. I don't know what's available for Win7, but Google is your friend!
[21:42] <ardchoille> strywgr: are you using gnome global menu?
[21:42] <Hilikus> how do i run a launcher from the terminal? if it just run it directly it opens in gedit instead of launching the app
[21:43] <strywgr> i cant see the top panel :o
[21:43] <joe_> jpds: do i need to get a driver or something?
[21:43] <macman_> cat video1.vob  video2.vob  video3.vob  > video.vob .. will that actually work ?
[21:43] <strywgr> anyone has any idea whats wrong?
[21:43] <ardchoille> Hilikus: you need to find the actual command that the launcher uses and launch the command
[21:43] <Hilikus> ardchoille: i didn't want to do that to avoid having to change the comnand in 2 different places
[21:44] <Hilikus> is that the only way?
[21:44] <strywgr> i cant see the top panel :o anyone can help me on restoring it?
[21:44] <ardchoille> Hilikus: launching .desktop file won't luanch the command, you actually need to find the command that is used
[21:45] <Hilikus> ardchoille: i know, but like i said i wanted to avoid configuring the command in two places
[21:45] <ardchoille> Hilikus: you only want to "launch" it?
[21:45] <strywgr> anyone knows from where to get back the TOP PANEL?
[21:45] <r0k3tm3n_> i have done two fresh installs on two separate machines, one a desktop and one a laptop.  with in 10-20 min, they both seize up with a black screen and will not take any imput, any idea what could be going on?
[21:45] <r0k3tm3n_> stywgr: u need to find the menu for the panels and re add the top pannel
[21:46] <jpds> joe_: Can you put on paste.ubuntu.com what lspci returns?
[21:46] <supertux1_> r0bby you see some verbose?
[21:46] <strywgr> but why its gone?
[21:46] <supertux1_> r0k3tm3n_
[21:46] <r0k3tm3n_> try right clicking on the bottom pannel
[21:46] <khelvan> Hi, I'm having a problem using unetbootin in Karmic. When running the application I get this error: "vol_id not found. This is required for either install mode. Install the "udev" package or your distribution's equivalent." But I already have udev installed - what is the problem?
[21:46] <ardchoille> strywgr: can you click where the Applications used to be and will that show the menu?
[21:46] <Hilikus> ardchoille: look, if i have a klaunche with foo -init -blah and i need to set it up twice then if i change it i need to remember to change it twice. if i make the new shortcut launch the only launcher then i only change it in the only launcher
[21:46] <joe_> ok
[21:46] <Purpley> What does # and ## mean?
[21:47] <ardchoille> Hilikus: klaunch? Are you in kde?
[21:47] <strywgr> ardcholle : i have tried that all.. no luck.
[21:47] <Hilikus> ardchoille: sorry, typo. i meant launcher
[21:47] <Slart> Purpley: in front of channel names?
[21:47] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[21:47] <supertux1_> Purpley line comment?
[21:47] <strywgr> i dont have any idea how to open programs :o it got all the things.. -> application, etc
[21:47] <supertux1_> Purpley dunno differences
[21:47] <joe_> jpds: http://paste.ubuntu.com/347249/
[21:47] <ardchoille> Hilikus: Ok, I see what you're trying to do, but I don't think that's possible
[21:48] <Hilikus> ardchoille: mmm ok, i'll just write it twice then
[21:48] <Hilikus> thanks
[21:48] <Purpley> Errr I think its line comments here, ill give an example
[21:48] <jpds> joe_: And lshw -c network ?
[21:48] <Purpley> # deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/bisigi/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main and ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[21:49] <unop> Purpley, # marks the beginning of a comment - meaning it has no effect
[21:49] <linuxghost> help me, im trying to use TP-Link TL-WN620G Wi-Fi USb ive followed the thread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/TP-Link_TL-WN620G_(ndiswrapper) im using ubunTU 9.10 and lsusb says no firmware AR5523 and this http://wiki.debian.org/ar5523#supported the patch step isnot correct for me
[21:49] <supertux1_> dunno one # or #the differences
[21:49] <ardchoille> Purpley: the word "and" should be outside the comment. And are you running intrepid?
[21:49] <r0k3tm3n_> i have done two fresh installs on two separate machines, one a desktop and one a laptop.  with in 10-20 min, they both seize up with a black screen and will not take any input, any idea what could be going on? it is getting an ip according to my router, but i cant ssh into it
[21:49] <DrManhattan> so how long do bans generally last in here?
[21:49] <Slart> Purpley: usually you have two kinds of comments.. there are things that are real commands but they are commented so they are not active.. the user can uncomment these to activate different stuff.. ## is then used for real comments.. stuff that isn't supposed to be uncommented
[21:49] <ardchoille> DrManhattan: you should ask in #ubuntu-ops
[21:49] <Purpley> No im using karmic its the sources.list txt file
[21:49] <supertux1_> i think ## are for normal comment, not commands
[21:49] <tfm> is there a way to uninstall and reinstall totem, because its giving me more numerous and complex problems than I can address.
[21:50] <DrManhattan> nah, I wasn't banned from there
[21:50] <joe_> jpds: http://paste.ubuntu.com/347250/
[21:50] <salmeida> hola
[21:50] <jpds> supertux1_: They're both comments.
[21:50] <supertux1_> ## cannot be uncommented i suppose because not machine readable
[21:50] <ardchoille> DrManhattan: but you need to ask in there as they manage this channel
[21:50] <micromachstick> Hi all..im trying to get songbird/rhyhtmbox/anything else really to sync all my music onto my ipod..it aknowledges my ipod perfectly and then puts the music onto the ipod..but then once i play it, it only does the first four seconds of each song over and over..any ideas?
[21:50] <jpds> joe_: You running network-manager?
[21:50] <supertux1_> yes but one # uncommented leave an action free
[21:50] <Purpley> Alright thanks Slart
[21:50] <ardchoille> Purpley: you have intrepid source lines in your karmic system?
[21:50] <DrManhattan> ardchoille, i don't NEED to. It's not a life or death circumstance. I'll be ok if they can't answer me in here.
[21:51] <supertux1_> ## in that example leave a line without commands
[21:51] <supertux1_> IN THAT EXAMPLE
[21:51] <Taejo> micromachstick: is it just one song or all of them?
[21:51] <joe_> jpds: i dont know
[21:51] <supertux1_> maybe i'm wrong
[21:51] <Purpley> I guess there not active
[21:51] <linuxghost> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0cf3:0002 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5523 (no firmware)
[21:51] <ardchoille> DrManhattan: if you've been banned inhere and are using a diff nick now, they will see that as ban evasion and ban y ou again. You really need to get that first ban resolved
[21:51] <micromachstick> Taejo: ive tried it with pretty much everything from my collection..different audio file types..and always the same thing. and the same result on songbird and rhyhtmbox
[21:51] <tfm> is there a way to uninstall and reinstall totem, because its giving me more numerous and complex problems than I can address.
[21:51] <zevlag> Is there a way to wipe the system physical disk of a remmote system I have root access to?
[21:51] <supertux1_> i suppose ## are for pure comments not for potential command lines
[21:51] <DrManhattan> ardchoille, well, as I said before, I'll live.
[21:51] <sixtila> installing gstreamer also doesnt play mms in rhythmbox - any soln?
[21:52] <basix> can someone please tell me what is this $HOME/Admin directory for? It looks like a Apache Derby contents in there but I'm not sure who / why was it created. I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
[21:52] <linuxghost> help me, im trying to use TP-Link TL-WN620G Wi-Fi USb ive followed the thread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/TP-Link_TL-WN620G_(ndiswrapper) im using ubunTU 9.10 and lsusb says no firmware AR5523 and this http://wiki.debian.org/ar5523#supported the patch step isnot correct for me, says ambigous
[21:52] <supertux1_> tfm sudo apt-get install -reinstall totem
[21:52] <jpds> joe_: You're running Ubuntu right?
[21:52] <supertux1_> tfm sudo apt-get install --reinstall totem
[21:52] <supertux1_> the second one sorry
[21:52] <tfm> supertux1_: that's the only thing i need to do?
[21:52] <joe_> jpds: its karmic
[21:53] <tfm> supertux1_: just one command?
[21:53] <supertux1_> to reinstall yes
[21:53] <jpds> joe_: So, on your panel there should be an icon like a cable.
[21:53] <supertux1_> yes that does two actions
[21:53] <tfm> supertux1_: do I have to uninstall first?
[21:53] <jpds> joe_: Click on it, and it should list the wireless card.
[21:53] <supertux1_> or, if yout want to be clear, sudo apt-get remove --purge totem && sudo apt-get install totem
[21:53] <supertux1_> tfm
[21:54] <invisime> so when I run 'aplay -l' as I get no sound card found. but when I run 'sudo aplay -l' it works properly. this user is already a member of the 'sound' group. what could be wrong?
[21:54] <tfm> what?
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> I should pOint out that purgeing totem will NOT clearn out the users settings in their home dirs...
[21:54] <supertux1_> that line remove and purge config files and then, if the first action was ok, execute the second action
[21:54] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: good point
[21:54] <unop> invisime, is the user member of 'audio' ?
[21:54] <Izinucs> Is Jaunty EOL?
[21:54] <supertux1_> try the second one to be clear
[21:54] <joe_> jpds: yes it finds my ethernet fine and when i plug in my usb wireless adapter it shows up right away there also, but with this AIR-CB21AG-A-K9 card it doesn't show up
[21:54] <invisime> unop: yep.
[21:54] <ardchoille> Izinucs: no
[21:54] <r0k3tm3n_>  have done two fresh installs on two separate machines, one a desktop and one a laptop.  with in 10-20 min, they both seize up with a black screen and will not take any input, any idea what could be going on? it is getting an ip according to my router, but i cant ssh into it  {is this a bad question to ask???}
[21:54] <linuxghost> help me, im trying to use TP-Link TL-WN620G Wi-Fi USb ive followed the thread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/TP-Link_TL-WN620G_(ndiswrapper) im using ubunTU 9.10 and lsusb says no firmware AR5523 and this http://wiki.debian.org/ar5523#supported the patch step isnot correct for me, says ambigous
[21:55] <rubyphyte> how can I cp -R things and also get all of the . files?
[21:55] <tfm> Dr_Willis: how do I start completely anew with totem then?
[21:55] <supertux1_> tfm understand?
[21:55] <tfm> supertux1_: do I have to uninstall first?
[21:55] <ardchoille> Izinucs: on'wt be until October of 2010
[21:56] <Slart> r0k3tm3n_: the ssh server isn't enabled by default in the desktop install.. so that you can't ssh in isn't surprising.. not sure what it could be.. have you checked the CD for defects?
[21:56] <chrome_> What's the best windows VM to run ubuntu as guest OS ?
[21:56] <supertux1_> tfm use my second command
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> tfm:  you mean clean out the users settings? they are stored somewhere in their home dir. under .gnome or .gnome2 or .gtk* somewhere
[21:56] <supertux1_> tfm sudo apt-get remove --purge totem && sudo apt-get install totem
[21:56] <Izinucs> I've been having issues connecting to the repos even after changing countries and then having synaptic search for the fastest server.. Error 404 .. sources here --> http://pastebin.com/f2839a744
[21:57] <Slart> chrome_: try the big ones.. vmware, virtualbox (not sure if that's available for windows)
[21:57] <n-iCe> hi how do I acitvate iwconfig wlan0, when I use iwlist scan says wlan0 network is down
[21:57] <r0k3tm3n_> Slart: thanks for ur reply. i already ran a script to install openssh-server, nmap says the port is filtered, hmmm...  the cd is ok, i have ran 3 installs of the disk
[21:57] <linuxghost> help me, im trying to use TP-Link TL-WN620G Wi-Fi USb ive followed the thread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/TP-Link_TL-WN620G_(ndiswrapper) im using ubunTU 9.10 and lsusb says no firmware AR5523 and this http://wiki.debian.org/ar5523#supported the patch step isnot correct for me, says ambigous
[21:57] <chrome_> Slart what about virtual PC?
[21:57] <Slart> chrome_: no idea.. I run windows in a vm on ubuntu.. not the other way around =)
[21:57] <tfm> supertux1_: which command?
[21:57] <supertux1_> tfm sudo apt-get remove --purge totem && sudo apt-get install totem
[21:58] <Slart> r0k3tm3n_: the machines start up ok?
[21:58] <tfm> supertux1_: that one only?
[21:58] <chrome_> :P
[21:58] <Slart> r0k3tm3n_: or it's the install that dies?
[21:58] <supertux1_> READ!
[21:58] <supertux1_> tfm sudo apt-get remove --purge totem && sudo apt-get install totem
[21:58] <r0k3tm3n_> Slart: yes, it installed fine, totally usable until ~10 min the machine totally locks up
[21:58] <Pedrolito> why is the 'reading database by dpkg' part when installing new packages so slow in karmic?
[21:59] <micromachstick> is anybody an expert with media player management with ubuntu? ive been trying for days to figure this out to no avail..
[21:59] <Slart> r0k3tm3n_: check the logs then.. see if you can find anything that looks fatal... if it was one machine I would be guessing something heat related.. but with two machines doing the same thing.. hmm
[21:59] <r0k3tm3n_> chrome_:  VirtualBox is a very good vm software... there are a lot of features in it that i have not seen in others vm software
[21:59] <basix> can someone please tell me what is this $HOME/Admin directory for? It looks like a Apache Derby contents in there but I'm not sure who / why was it created. I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
[22:00] <r0k3tm3n_> Slart: i should say that these were two different machines with two different ubuntu installs, but the same results make me interested
[22:00] <Slart> basix: it's not there on a default install.. not sure what might have installed it
[22:00] <chrome_> ok I'm gonna check that one r0k3tm3n_ , ty
[22:00] <Slart> r0k3tm3n_: are there any other customizations you do to the machines?
[22:00] <r0k3tm3n_> Slart: i am new to many areas of linux. but working on learning =)  which log would i check?
[22:00] <tfm> supertux1_: that didnt fix my problems
[22:00] <unop> basix, does this command return anything?    grep "$HOME/Admin" /etc/passwd
[22:00] <r0k3tm3n_> Slart: just apt-get so far
[22:01] <n-iCe> hi how do I acitvate iwconfig wlan0, when I use iwlist scan says wlan0 network is down
[22:01]  * Afrix polishes chrome_ \\o
[22:01] <Slart> r0k3tm3n_: I would start with /var/log/syslog .. that one gets a little of everything.. also /var/log/kern.log might be interesting
[22:01] <linuxghost> help me, im trying to use TP-Link TL-WN620G Wi-Fi USb ive followed the thread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/TP-Link_TL-WN620G_(ndiswrapper) im using ubunTU 9.10 and lsusb says no firmware AR5523 and this http://wiki.debian.org/ar5523#supported the patch step isnot correct for me, says ambigous
[22:01] <Slart> r0k3tm3n_: it's not something suspend/sleep related? some kind of power saving stuff that kicks in after 20 minutes?
[22:02] <basix> unop: i'm sorry, this directory is in my home directory so its at /home/basix/Admin
[22:02] <basix> unop: and no, that command doesn't return anything
[22:02] <r0k3tm3n_> Slart: PM
[22:03] <unop> basix, my bad.  which user owns this directory and its contents?
[22:03] <basix> unop: it says basix:basix (thats me)
[22:04] <basix> unop: but i dont recollect installing any program that would create such a directory. Besides, it has sub directories which indicate its some sort of apache derby storage directory...
[22:04] <gizmobay> Is there a GUI for beagle? Search that is.
[22:04] <Flipz> Uhm, I just installed ubuntu and I'm having an issue, I was told to install a program called diswrapper or something, I can't find it, does anyone know what it's called?
[22:05] <r0k3tm3n_> gizmobay: yes, 'beagle-search' from the command line i believe
[22:05] <unop> basix, strange. I seem to recall something similar when playing with a package sometime ago - can't remember what tho.
[22:05] <n0kS> êî ñòàâ êóðâè
[22:05] <n0kS> à
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> Flipz:  ndiswrapper - often used for wireless drivers.
[22:06] <Flipz> Thanks Willis
[22:06] <Flipz> any other programs I might need?
[22:06] <Flipz> Dr_Willis: I'm new to ubuntu and I'm trying it out
[22:06] <basix> unop: strange thing is, i have not installed derby. May be i'm being paranoid but I'd like to know what lives in my home directory :P
[22:06] <Flipz> It's hard, but I like it alot
[22:06] <gizmobay> thanks r0k3tm3n_
[22:06] <Flipz> It's less bloated and more fast than windows XP
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> Flipz:  Good Luck getting wireless going with ndiswrappers.
[22:06] <n0kS> john-cen åé ïåäàë
[22:06] <n0kS> ãîâîðè íà áã
[22:06] <Flipz> is it hard?
[22:06] <n0kS> ãè ÿäîñàìå
[22:06] <n0kS> :D
[22:06] <FloodBot2> n0kS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:07] <Flipz> Dr_Willis: Is there any other downloadable content I need for ubuntu to be easier?
[22:07] <mkquist> whats the command to restart ssh?
[22:07] <Slart> basix: can you tell me some of the filenames that are in that folder? or pastebin a "ls -lR" from this admin folder?
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> Flipz:  totally depends on what you want and need.
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> Flipz:  start browseing the pacakge maanger and  'ubuntu software center'
[22:08] <Slart> mkquist: sudo service ssh restart  might work
[22:08] <Flipz> I want to change from windows XP to ubuntu, and I want to learn perl
[22:08] <Flipz> okay
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> Flipz:  ive collected about 20lb of perl books over the years. :()
[22:08] <basix> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/347263/
[22:08] <Flipz> I see
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> Flipz:  you might want to focus on Python. Unless you know you need perl knwoledge.
[22:09] <Flipz> which is easier to learn, python or perl?
[22:09] <mkquist> Slart: nope
[22:09] <Flipz> Oh okay.
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> Flipz:  depends on your needs. both are easy to learn the basics
[22:09] <Rom> ahoj
[22:09] <mkquist> i keep reading that it's /etc/init.d/ssh restart, but that doesn't work either
[22:09] <micromachstick> Does anyone know if the latest ipod models are made to not work with ubuntu?
[22:09] <Raydiation> is there an alternative to daap in streaming music over network
[22:09] <Slart> basix: there are two packages that have a file called service.properties.. it's sun-java6-javadb  and sun-javadb-demo
[22:10] <linuxghost> help me, im trying to use TP-Link TL-WN620G Wi-Fi USb ive followed the thread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/TP-Link_TL-WN620G_(ndiswrapper) im using ubunTU 9.10 and lsusb says no firmware AR5523 and this http://wiki.debian.org/ar5523#supported the patch step isnot correct for me, says ambigous
[22:10] <john-cena> kak ste
[22:10] <Raydiation> micromachstick: you should avoid anything with touch
[22:10] <blackrai_> What about ubuntu ultimate
[22:10] <Raydiation> micromachstick: go for ipod classic if you want one
[22:10] <blackrai_> Does that exist
[22:10] <basix> Slart: I see. I will check if they are installed
[22:10] <Rom> hello
[22:10] <Slart> basix: those packages don't install that file into your home folder though
[22:10] <Rom> I keep help ubuntu
[22:10] <Flipz> So Dr_Willis
[22:10] <samuel> 9.10 64bits instalado
[22:10] <Flipz> I'm new to linux as a whole
[22:11] <Flipz> and I just installed ubuntu
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> !training
[22:11] <samuel> gente se eu sumir é pq deu pau no drive de video rs
[22:11] <Flipz> anything I need besides ndwwrapper?
[22:11] <Slart> !br | samuel
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> Flipz:  totally depends on YOUR needs. and what you want to do.
[22:11] <samuel> disculpa
[22:11] <basix> Slart: and they are not installed either...
[22:11] <blackrai_> Does exist ubuntu ultimate
[22:11] <manowar3> !manowar | zingabo
[22:11] <Slart> basix: what is in that log file?
[22:11] <linuxghost> help me, im trying to use TP-Link TL-WN620G Wi-Fi USb ive followed the thread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/TP-Link_TL-WN620G_(ndiswrapper) im using ubunTU 9.10 and lsusb says no firmware AR5523 and this http://wiki.debian.org/ar5523#supported the patch step isnot correct for me, says ambigous
[22:11] <Flipz> Dr_Willis I want to make programs in python
[22:11] <Slart> blackrai_: yes, but we don't support it here
[22:11] <Flipz> and etc
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> blackrai_:  yes there is some Ubuntu Ultimate. an Unsupported (by this channel) ubuntu -variant
[22:11] <Slart> !ultimate | blackrai_
[22:12] <basix> Slart, literally nothing.. i've used strings and its comes up with nothing.. i'll pastebin it
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> Flipz:  30 sec ago you wanted to do them in perl....
[22:12] <Flipz> I wanna do both
[22:12] <john-cena> zdrastiii
[22:12] <blackrai_> Ah ok
[22:12] <Flipz> Phython Then perl
[22:12] <n0kS> mYcYnka
[22:12] <n0kS> seksi
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> Flipz:  so whats stopping you.. :)
[22:12] <n0kS> kak si
[22:12] <n0kS> ti poram duparata
[22:12] <FloodBot2> n0kS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <n0kS> :D
[22:12] <Flipz> My wireless is screwing up
[22:12] <Flipz> So I'll get ndwiswrapper
[22:12] <mYcYnKa> phxAHyaXHyaxhahaXyaxyAXYXAhXAHhYAhy
[22:12] <n0kS> fLIPZ
[22:12] <mYcYnKa> ;D
[22:12] <n0kS> suck it we
[22:12] <n0kS> man
[22:12] <n0kS> ;]
[22:12] <Flipz> But I also wanna know if there is anything else I need
[22:12] <n0kS> mYcYnKa
[22:12] <mYcYnKa> ;d
[22:13] <FloodBot2> n0kS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:13] <n0kS> {}
[22:13] <n0kS> baby
[22:13] <LjL> n0kS: stop
[22:13] <basix> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/347267/
[22:13] <mYcYnKa> n0/xa
[22:13] <mYcYnKa> xHAXHAHXha
[22:13] <john-cena> äåáà ñêàïàíèà êàíàë äåáà :ä
[22:13] <LjL> !english
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> Python - Game of the Week ---> http://www.pyweek.org/
[22:13] <mYcYnKa> ahxahxh
[22:13] <mYcYnKa> ;d
[22:13] <DrManhattan> Feces.
[22:13] <n0kS> haha
[22:13] <n0kS> ne me banvai we
[22:13] <LjL> mYcYnKa: please stop
[22:13] <n0kS> travesit
[22:13] <mYcYnKa> ko be
[22:13] <n0kS> Ljl duhaiiii
[22:13] <LjL> !ops | n0kS
[22:13] <n0kS> go na supa
[22:13] <john-cena> :DdDdDd
[22:13] <FloodBot2> n0kS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:13] <n0kS> :D
[22:13] <mYcYnKa> ops
[22:13] <mYcYnKa> phxAHyaXHyaxhahaXyaxyAXYXAhXAHhYAhy
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> Flipz:  ive never used ndiswrappers so no idea how to set that up or if antying else is needed to work with it
[22:13] <mYcYnKa> bahti zletaka :
[22:13] <Slart> basix: well.. it smells like a database alright.. odd
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> !ndiswrapper
[22:14] <basix> Slart: Its Apache derby
[22:14] <basix> Slart: That i know. But who installed it, thats my question :P
[22:14] <Slart> basix: is there a creation date on the folder?