[08:08] <qzio> Kalamansi: try sudo apt-get
[08:08] <bazhang> smallfry: not really no
[08:08] <bod_> Kalamansi, what is the exact command your using?
[08:09] <dishayu> i am unable to install bin files on my PC... ubuntu7.10... i made them executable by chmod and when i execute it with "./filename.bin"  it says no such file or directory...
[08:09] <bazhang> wantE17style: you mean the coverflow of Jaguar?
[08:09] <qzio> smallfry: yeah sure, but there aren't that many virus out there..
[08:09] <qzio> for linux that is
[08:09] <smallfry> cool
[08:09] <noble-> I even identified to nickserv as artenius
[08:09] <Corbin> smallfry: ubuntu would need you to pretty much want to get a virus.  t
[08:09] <Starnestommy> dishayu: make sure you're in the directory where that file is
[08:09] <noble-> yet it's showing another nick to all of you
[08:09] <qzio> dishayu: chmod +x filename.bin
[08:09] <bod_> smallfry, google    tarbomb
[08:09] <smallfry> i was wondering cause viruses fucked over my windows pc
[08:09] <dishayu> Starnestommy : did
[08:09] <bod_> !language | smallfry
[08:09] <dishayu> qzio : did that already
[08:09] <ubotu> smallfry: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[08:09] <bazhang> noble do this in server window: /nick artenius
[08:10] <wantE17style> no no, it's that Face in OS X you click on and you can view your folders or programs which appear to the right in another window
[08:10] <qzio> dishayu: then. ./path/to/file.bin should do it
[08:10] <Corbin> wantE17style: Finder?
[08:10] <wantE17style> yes.....maybe
[08:10] <Kalamansi> bod_ im using a mouse. i just right click and copy.then paste to usb...
[08:10] <wantE17style> E17 has the same thing
[08:10] <bod_> wantE17style, see if you can get us a pic of what your talkin about
[08:10] <wantE17style> does Gnomre?
[08:11] <wantE17style> ok
[08:11] <bullgard4> How can I determine the version number of my graphics driver 'intel' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[08:11] <wantE17style> one moment
[08:11] <Corbin> the mac dude's face is called finder
[08:11] <bod_> Kalamansi, that wont work,.,. u need to do it from terminal      sudo cp /path/to/file /media/disk
[08:11] <bazhang> wantE17style: you mean the finder view of windows? then no, Gnome does not do that--though Kubuntu KDE4 (Hardy Heron has something similar) offtopic here I know sorry
[08:11] <dishayu> qzio.. the file is on my desktop... i got a         "bash: ./home/ayush/Desktop/ge.bin: No such file or directory"
[08:11] <Corbin> little blue dude, used on software packaging to say a program is mac compatible
[08:11] <chriskk_> I've got a 6.10 server, and trying to get more information about proxy_balancer
[08:12] <bod_> dishayu,   ./home??
[08:12] <noble-> bazhang, no return.
[08:12] <chriskk_> it's for Apache2
[08:12] <noble-> I think I know what it is
[08:12] <dishayu> bod : yup... that's the path to desktop, right?
[08:12] <bod_> Kalamansi, actually i think u can do it with the mouse, if you open nautilus as root,.,. in terminal type     sudo nautilus      then try it
[08:13] <Radit> Is there a chm viewer in ubuntu besides GnoCHM? The reason for this is because i need to view the chm file in full screen; gnoGHM is unable to go in full screen mode (Pressing F11).. I'm on a small screen..
[08:13] <bod_> dishayu, there is no '.' in front of /home   /home   not ./home
[08:13] <dishayu> okay
[08:14] <wantE17style> like this : http://enlightenment.org/i/az-desktop.png
[08:14] <arejay> anyone know of a linux supported wireless-n network adapter?
[08:14] <dishayu> stupid me... *slaps himself*
[08:14] <dishayu> thank you
[08:14] <artenius> grr
[08:15] <bod_> how is the /home/usr/Desktop folder linked to showing its contents on the desktop? how can i get other folders to show there contents on the desktop?
[08:15] <artenius> my name still noble?
[08:15] <bazhang> noble!
[08:15] <bod_> artenius, no its not
[08:15] <bazhang> no artenius
[08:15] <wiwaezan> hello
[08:15] <artenius> cool, :)
[08:15] <wiwaezan> where are you from
[08:15] <bazhang> #ubuntu
[08:15] <artenius> samoa
[08:16] <artenius> lol...
[08:16] <dishayu> another thing, all my file associations have been de-associated after i installed (and removed) gdesklets.. anything i can do to reset my file associations to default?
[08:16] <wantE17style> well, what's the name of the package that does that......maybe I can tinker with it to make it work in Gnome?
[08:16] <googlah|sleepy> hello fellahs, just an easy question, i want to manually select VGA driver at setup (this case VESA), but don't seem i can?
[08:16] <bazhang> wantE17style: it is the enlightenment window manager
[08:17] <bod_> googlah|sleepy, the text installer does that,.,. not sure how in gui installer
[08:17] <wantE17style> can it be combined with gnome? :( I know the window manager isn't a complete desktop solution :(
[08:17] <artenius> I have to submit to a urine test later today. apparently I live in nazi germany
[08:17] <Kalamansi> bod_ : sudo nautilus. still error while copying.same error
[08:17] <artenius> ot, sorry
[08:17] <bazhang> wantE17style: you mean the gtk apps? sure no worries
[08:17] <bod_> Kalamansi, where is the file you want to copy? and what is the file path to your usb drive?
[08:17] <elkbuntu> artenius, yes, very.
[08:17] <googlah|sleepy> so yeah, the alternative cd, that is what i thought... not possible with the normal cd bod_.
[08:18] <bazhang> !ot
[08:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:18] <bod_> googlah|sleepy, not sure,. but its definately a default thing in the text installer,.,. you might be able to choose VESA after the gui install by doing     dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:18] <wantE17style> ok thanks all
[08:19] <Kalamansi> bod_ : i click file system, var, cache,apt,archives.. and my usb name is kalamansi
[08:19] <VoiDeT> hi there, i'm getting "rndc connect failed: <IP_ADDRESS># 953 timed out" on reboot/shutdown how do i open up the local loop back for the port 953 in my iptables config?
[08:19] <googlah|sleepy> yeah, of course. thing is, the gui installer chooses wrong driver, and the screen goes blank at start up. meaning i can't do anything. so i think i will have to try the alternative. bod_.
[08:20] <bod_> Kalamansi, try and give me the info in this syntax     /var/cache/apt/archive/packagename /media/devicename
[08:20] <Kalamansi> bod_ i am trying to copy all the packages
[08:21] <bod_> googlah|sleepy, after the gui install, reboot, et to grub, then choose the second line, the single user boot,. that will give u a command prompt then run    dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   then choose your settings then reboot choose first line,.,.voila
[08:21] <chriskk> where is Apache's proxy_balancer for ubuntu 6.10 ?
[08:22] <bod_> Kalamansi, everything in /var/cache/apt/archive  ?? what is the path to ur usb disk? it will be something like   /media/disk
[08:23] <bod_> guys does sudo cp keep file permissions? or would u have to do something like   cp -p?
[08:23] <Kalamansi> bod_ kalamansi is the name of my usb. and its in the desktop now.i just click the usb if i access it
[08:23] <Kyro2> is there an easy way to format a usb drive?
[08:23] <Kyro2> not using terminal?
[08:23] <bod_> Kalamansi, no its not,.,. open your usb then right click--> properties on something in it,.,. it will show you the file path there
[08:24] <Kyro2> like a gui that comes with ubuntu
[08:24] <bod_> Kyro2, gparted? not sure
[08:24] <Kyro2> in windows you just right click it and format it in there - theres no option in gnome
[08:24] <Kyro2> :(
[08:24] <bazhang> terminal is easier Kyro2 then burning an iso of a livecd rebooting into just for that
[08:25] <MeatPopsicle> Greeting Ubuntu users.  Does anyone have some time to help me with an instalation issue?
[08:25] <bod_> yes
[08:25] <[[thufir]]> woo!  the samsung ML-2510 printer works automagically from Ubuntu but not from Fedora.  Out of curiosity, how do I find the difference?  CUPS settings?  printer driver?
[08:25] <iamlegend> qcad is payware or not?
[08:25] <Kyro2> welcome MeatPopsicle ^_^
[08:25] <Kalamansi> bod_ moun point : /media/KALAMANSI
[08:25] <MeatPopsicle> =)  ty Kyro2
[08:25] <Galga> hi
[08:25] <bod_> Kalamansi, in caps?
[08:25] <bazhang> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=thufir: you might want to ask in their channel why it does not work
[08:25] <Galga> how to redetect sound card ? thanks
[08:26] <iamlegend> qcad is payware or not?
[08:26] <bod_> Galga, theres an asoundconf option for it,.,. in terminal type     asoundconf   then look at the output
[08:26] <bazhang> what the heck? is thufir a bot?
[08:26] <Galga> bod_: ok thanks
[08:26] <bod_> ;~)
[08:26] <iamlegend> :( it is payware,i got it
[08:27] <MeatPopsicle> bod_: Was that yes directed toward my person?
[08:27] <bod_> MeatPopsicle, it was directed to you, and said by almost all in the room,.,.;~) ask your question,.,.someone will help ;~)
[08:28] <Starnestommy> iamlegend: I think there's a free community edition of it
[08:28] <Kalamansi> bod_ yup in caps
[08:28] <bod_> Kalamansi, ok hang on
[08:28] <iamlegend> Starnestommy, sir,give more detail guide
[08:29] <Kalamansi> bod_ thanks
[08:29] <MeatPopsicle> Excellent.  I've tried installing a few flavors of Ubuntu...  the regular unaltered version, Uberyl, and Ultimate Ubuntu, and all of them seem to have issues initiating video.
[08:29] <bod_> Kalamansi,   sudo cp -rp /var/cache/apt/archive/* /media/KALAMANSI/
[08:29] <[[thufir]]> just installed.  very neat, my printer finally works automagically.  But, how do I login as root?
[08:29] <bod_> Kalamansi, type that into a terminal
[08:29] <Galga> bod_: no volume control or compatible GStreamer plugin found
[08:29] <MeatPopsicle> When I boot to any of the three and select start, either normal, or safe graphics, they run the loasing progress bar for a bit then eventually blank out and my monitor goes to standby
[08:30] <bod_> Galga, desktop or laptop? soundcard and onboard sound?
[08:30] <iamlegend> Starnestommy, my god,it doesn't support dwg?
[08:30] <Galga> bod_: desktop and pci soundcard
[08:31] <bod_> Galga, type    asoundconf list       then tell me the output
[08:31] <Galga> bod_: nothing
[08:31] <bod_> MeatPopsicle, try the alternate ubuntu cd
[08:31] <SNuxoll> [[thufir]]: botcheck
[08:31] <bod_> Galga, nothing? then your computer isnt detecting a sound card,.,.,. im not sure how to fix that,.,. ask the channel
[08:32] <Galga> bod_: k thanks
[08:32] <MeatPopsicle> bod_: Don't beleive I have heard of it.  ubuntu.com?
[08:32] <bod_> !alternate
[08:32] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[08:32] <bod_> MeatPopsicle, ^^^^
[08:32] <SNuxoll> [[thufir]]
[08:32] <Galga> bod_: besides the icon when clicked asks for a GStreamer Plugin
[08:33] <[[thufir]]> if I do "sudo su -" and login as root, can i change the root password safely, or will that muck up something else?  should I leave the root password alone?  seems odd to not know the root password.
[08:33] <bazhang> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=thufir: best not to log in as root
[08:33] <[[thufir]]> SNuxoll: pardon, what did you say?
[08:33] <bod_> Galga, the speaker icon in the corner? because you have no sound card therfore no driver,. as far as the computer is concerned
[08:33] <smallfry> who is running windows?
[08:33] <[[thufir]]> bazhang: well, sometimes you need to be root.
[08:33] <Galga> bod_: ok
[08:33] <MeatPopsicle> Roger that.  I'll d/l and give it a shot and get back to you if I'm still having trouble.  Thanks!
[08:33] <bod_> [[thufir]], why do you need to login as root?
[08:33] <Starnestommy> [[thufir]]: that's why sudo exists
[08:34] <bod_> MeatPopsicle, good luck ;~)
[08:34] <bod_> !root | [[thufir]]
[08:34] <ubotu> [[thufir]]: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:34] <prince_jammys> [[thufir]]: if you need a  long session as root, use sudo -i
[08:34] <Kalamansi> bod_ : no such file or directory sudo cp -rp /var/cache/apt/archive/* /media/KALAMANSI/
[08:34] <MeatPopsicle> bod_: Thank you =)
[08:34] <bazhang> bod_: got to go, see you later
[08:34] <[[thufir]]> right, but I mean, sudo is good.  but shouldn't you know your own root password?
[08:35] <Galga> bod_: how to redetect soundcard through cmdline, thanks
[08:35] <bod_> bazhang, see ya later dude
[08:35] <lesshaste> pidgin causes sh: jackd: not found to occur a lot.. how do I fix that?
[08:35] <bod_> Galga, no idea,. ask the channel
[08:35] <Galga> bod_: k
[08:35] <bod_> Kalamansi, im not sure which one isnt there so try this        cd /media/KALAMANSI
[08:36] <bod_> prince_jammys, hey dude,. your good with conf files ;~),. do you know how the /home/bod/Desktop file shows its contents on the desktop?
[08:37] <ArthurArchnix> lesshaste: install jackd
[08:37] <hentaixp> [[thufir]]
[08:37] <lesshaste> ArthurArchnix: libasound2-plugins ?
[08:37] <bod_> [[thufir]], there is no root password
[08:37] <arunkale> Would anyone here know how to set up an 8-port switch, or could maybe point me towards an online tutorial
[08:37] <prince_jammys> bod_: i don't use gnome, but i think that's done through the gconf editor app
[08:38] <[[thufir]]> bod_: thanks.  how odd.
[08:38] <michael__> Could someone help me out?  All the icons in OpenOffice have been replaced by text
[08:38] <bod_> prince_jammys, ah, i dont really understand that app yet,. i keep playin with it but not really gettin anywhere,. thanks anyway,.,. il play in a bit,. ot a GCSE exam in a bit
[08:38] <bod_> !root | [[thufir]]
[08:38] <ubotu> [[thufir]]: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:38] <ArthurArchnix> sudo aptitude show jackd
[08:38] <ArthurArchnix> lesshaste:  ^^
[08:39] <lesshaste> ArthurArchnix: That isn't right
[08:39] <lesshaste> ArthurArchnix: It's libasound2-plugins isn't it?
[08:39] <ArthurArchnix> michael__: That happens if you uninstall the human theme for openoffice. Confirm that you still have it installed.
[08:39] <lesshaste> ArthurArchnix: oh.. my mistake.. sorry
[08:39] <michael__> ArthurArchnix:  how do I do that?
[08:40] <Kalamansi> bod_ : okay im there in cd /media/KALAMANSI
[08:40] <bod_> lesshaste, there is a package in synaptic called jackd
[08:40] <olejorgenb> How do I get my .xsession or .xinit sript to run on login?
[08:40] <lesshaste> bod_: installed
[08:40] <lesshaste> bod_: thx
[08:40] <Kalamansi> bod_ : root@kalamansi-desktopL/media/KALAMANSI#
[08:40] <ani1> michael__:  sys->prefs->appearance
[08:40] <bod_> Kalamansi, ok so that exists,. try this      cd /var/cache/apt/archive
[08:41] <ArthurArchnix> michael__: Copy and paste this in a terminal:    sudo aptitude show openoffice.org-style-human  | grep State
[08:41] <Kalamansi> bod_ no such file/directory
[08:41] <bod_> olejorgenb, crontab or easier is the sessions app in system-->preferences->sessions
[08:42] <olejorgenb> bod: I don't use gnome
[08:42] <ArthurArchnix> man... skype for linux has been down for like three days now.
[08:42] <ArthurArchnix> crazy
[08:42] <bod_> Kalamansi, ok, so the path to where the files you want to copy is wrong,.,. find them through nautilus to get the path correct
[08:42] <bod_> olejorgenb, what do you use?
[08:42] <olejorgenb> bod_: I thought that .xsession should be run on login if it existed
[08:42] <olejorgenb> bod_: ion
[08:42] <olejorgenb> *ion3
[08:42] <Kalamansi> bod_ its archives not archive hehehe
[08:43] <bod_> i dont no about that sorry
[08:43] <michael__> ArthurArchnix:  The terminal says "Status:  installed"
[08:43] <bod_> Kalamansi, change the comand i gave you,,. the cp one   to the correct path name
[08:43] <ArthurArchnix> michael__: Ok... well, maybe something simpler then. Open up openoffice.
[08:43] <Kalamansi> bod_ but still operation not permitted
[08:43] <bod_> Kalamansi, what command   sudo cp?
[08:43] <michael__> ArthurArchnix:  Alright
[08:44] <ArthurArchnix> michael__: then go >tools >options >view and make sure that under Menu there is a checkmark in the box that says show icons
[08:44] <Kalamansi> bod_ sudo cp -rp /var/cache/apt/archives/* /media/KALAMANSI/
[08:44] <bod_> Kalamansi, you are doing all this through terminal yer?
[08:45] <bod_> Kalamansi, ok remove the parameters   just sudo cp
[08:46] <michael__> ArthurArchnix:  You mean, the box labelled "Show Icons in Menus" is checked?  I don't see any other "Show Icons" box?
[08:46] <Kalamansi> bod_ cp:missing file operand
[08:46] <ArthurArchnix> Yeah.. is it checked? michael__
[08:46] <Kalamansi> bod_ yes terminal using root
[08:46] <bod_> Kalamansi, no lol,. this command        sudo cp  /var/cache/apt/archives/* /media/KALAMANSI/
[08:47] <michael__> ArthurArchnix:  Yes, it's checked
[08:47] <bod_> only 1 space Kalamansi
[08:47] <bod_> sudo /var/cache/apt/archives/* /media/KALAMANSI/
[08:47] <ArthurArchnix> michael__: ok, then this is probably the ubuntu bug about openoffice...
[08:47] <bod_> no damn
[08:47] <bod_> sudo cp /var/cache/apt/archives/* /media/KALAMANSI/
[08:47] <ArthurArchnix> michael__:  it's just about making sure you have the right theme installed I think...  try this...
[08:47] <lesshaste> bod_: now it says JACK tmpdir identified as [/dev/shm] instead
[08:47] <ArthurArchnix> michael__: what's the output of this: sudo aptitude show human-theme human-icon-theme | grep State
[08:48] <bod_> lesshaste, i have no idea what that means im afraid
[08:48] <lesshaste> :(
[08:48] <lesshaste> ArthurArchnix: do you know what JACK tmpdir identified as [/dev/shm] means?
[08:48] <michael__> It says everything's installed
[08:48] <cheesebob> what does "2>&1" do at the end of a line
[08:48] <cheesebob> ?
[08:48] <ArthurArchnix> lesshaste: I get that too when starting totem. I assumed it was a status message. Why, is it causing you problems?
[08:48] <lesshaste> ArthurArchnix: I seem to get it a lot
[08:49] <bod_> Kalamansi, did it work?
[08:49] <lesshaste> ArthurArchnix: everytime pidgin tries to make a sound
[08:49] <prince_jammys> you probably shouldn't use * unless you want to dump a ton of loose files into /media/kalamasi
[08:50] <michael__> ArthurArchnix:  It says everything's installed
[08:50] <bod_> ok guys, im off to do a GCSE exam,. im well nervous,.,.lol,.,. il be back in a bit
[08:50] <bod_> prince_jammys, thats exactly what he wants to do
[08:50] <MeatPopsicle> bod_: Good luck
[08:50] <prince_jammys> oh, then you should
[08:50] <bod_> ty
[08:50] <bod_> ;~)
[08:50] <bod_> bye
[08:51] <lesshaste> bod_: good luck!
[08:51] <lesshaste> :)
[08:51] <ArthurArchnix> michael__: Sorry. That was my best guess. At least, that's what the problem was when I had problems. Remember where you were when you checked for the icons in menu? Try changing those icons to something else. There's default. Human. Chrystal. Try changing it then restarting writer. Failing that, all I can think is to try reinstalling office.
[08:51] <ArthurArchnix> lesshaste: Under >tools >preferences >sounds have you tried changing it from auto to alsa?
[08:52] <lesshaste> ArthurArchnix: trying that now
[08:52] <n2diy> ! supybot
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supybot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <Galga> Is there any command to sync installation of packages with a distro ? thanks
[08:53] <bullgard4> xdpyinfo reports a line " dimensions: 1280x800 pixels (289x21 millimeters)" in error. The vendor engineer forgot to type a 7 at the end: The correct output should be  dimensions: 1280x800 pixels (289x217 millimeters). How can I troubleshoot this?
[08:53] <michael__> ArthurArchnix:  Tried and failed.  I'll try reinstalling Office after I'm done using it.  Thanks for the help!
[08:54] <ArthurArchnix> michael__: wait
[08:54] <prince_jammys> cheesebob: it copies stderr(where error messages usually go) to  stdout(standard output).  try this command:  prince_jammys 2&>foo      and then open the new file "foo"
[08:54] <ArthurArchnix> michael__: what might be easier, at least, if you're going to reinstall, is to try this first.
[08:54] <ArthurArchnix> michael__: sudo aptitude install openoffice.org-style-*
[08:55] <Javid> !vmware
[08:55] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[08:56] <lesshaste> ArthurArchnix: that might have done it! Thanks
[08:56] <ArthurArchnix> lesshaste: cool.
[08:56] <smallfry> anyone know a program to convert video files from .avi to .dvd and burn them? im in desperate need of one?
[08:56] <jin> !ftp
[08:56] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[08:57] <Kalamansi> bod_ it works! thanks
[08:57] <Kalamansi> bod_ : -)
[08:58] <michael__> ArthurArchnix:  I installed the tango theme through that way and everything works now!  Thank you!
[08:58] <pubo> Hi
[08:58] <ArthurArchnix> michael__: cheers
[08:58] <smallfry> anyone know a program to convert video files from .avi to .dvd and burn them? im in desperate need of one?
[08:58] <dedi> i wonder how i can start a app on the second desktop with the first showing (using compiz)
[08:58] <pubo> I'm trying to kill a process with kill -9 ,but it doesn't do anything... can anybody helpme?
[08:59] <MeatPopsicle> Kalamansi: bod_ has left us mortals to go and take an exam
[08:59] <Javid> is there a command like apt-cache search that only lists currently installed packages?
[08:59] <Kalamansi> MeatPopsicle : can i ask something?
[08:59] <pubo> Javid, dpkg -l
[09:00] <Javid> thanks
[09:00] <MeatPopsicle> Kalamansi: You may, though I doubt I can offer much help
[09:00] <Kalamansi> MeatPopsicle : where is more secure? ubuntu server 7.10 or openbsd?
[09:00] <jhend60> hi all
[09:00] <MeatPopsicle> Kalamansi: And correct I was, I haven't a clue...
[09:01] <Javid> Kalamansi, I'd bet on openbsd
[09:02] <jescis> Hello, do I have to have gnome installed for ubuntu to work?
[09:02] <ArthurArchnix> Kalamansi: That's easy. Both have no open ports by default, so after a default install, they are the same. But since it's impossible to just use a default install, and some configuration is necessary, the answer is it depends on the system administrator. IF that happens to be you, then I would say the more secure system will be the one you can get the most help with.
[09:02] <MeatPopsicle> Kalamansi: My initial feeling is to agree with Javid, but I have no specific reason for it aside from a couple of my more IT-centric friends use it
[09:02] <pubo> Kalamansi, maybe openbsd, but it depend's of the administrator skills :=
[09:02] <pubo> :)
[09:02] <Javid> of course, a user who's too dumb for his smarts can make anything insecure
[09:02]  * MeatPopsicle steps down from the microphone in a pwned state of being
[09:03] <Kalamansi> ArthurArchnix : i see. im running both server openbsd and ubuntu 7.10 and my dekstop ubuntu i like it
[09:03] <pubo> jescis, don't you know kubuntu? xubuntu? ubuntu-server?
[09:03] <ArthurArchnix> Kalamansi: If the question is, if a super-awesome-talented system administrator configured both openbsd and ubuntuserver which would be more secure, I'd go with openbsd like everyone else.
[09:04] <Kalamansi> ArthurArchnix : im still experimenting it. i wanna try to run some windows applications to ubuntu desktop
[09:05] <Kalamansi> ArthurArchnix : currently my servers works pretty well. but i dont have policies yet. are you running server ubuntu too?
[09:06] <Kalamansi> pubo thanks MeatPopsicle
[09:07] <MeatPopsicle> Kalamansi: Glad I could totally not help =P
[09:07] <ArthurArchnix> Kalamansi: Nope.
[09:08] <Kalamansi> ArthurArchnix ah so according to your friends IT too?
[09:09] <jescis> pubo: not really
[09:09] <jescis> I've seen them but I never used them
[09:09] <caris_mere> I am trying to update, but it says "Some of the packages could not be retrieved from the server. Do you want to continue?"   Is it safe to continue?
[09:10] <caris_mere> Sorry, it says " Do you want to continue ignoring these  packages?
[09:11] <pubo> jescis, kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome. Xubuntu the same but with XFCE. But if you want, yo can do a very basic installation (ubuntu-server and maybe alternate) and after you will can install everything you want
[09:12] <jescis> pubo: I asked because I don't want a gui
[09:12] <pubo> caris_mere, jescis thent ubuntu-server
[09:12] <Kalamansi> reboot
[09:13] <pubo> jescis, or debian xD
[09:13] <checkup> re
[09:13] <jescis> lol
[09:13] <jin> !bittorrent
[09:13] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[09:13] <caris_mere> pubo ?
[09:13] <pubo> caris_mere, sorry...
[09:13] <caris_mere> pubo: no problem
[09:13] <jescis> I hadve debian installed but it installed with no fb at all :/
[09:14] <jescis> fb = Frame Buffer
[09:14] <pubo> jescis, I don't like fb. It always has done broblems with my VGA cards
[09:15] <fx|RabBi1> morning all! what command do i use to format a hdd with ntfs, please?
[09:16] <jescis> pubo: how can you have anything visual with out a frame buffer?
[09:16] <nordland-iv> anyone have any suggestions of where I could go to get some good basic conversation?
[09:16] <nordland-iv> Im pulling an all-nighter so...
[09:16] <n2diy> nordland-iv: #ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:16] <fx|RabBi1> lol
[09:16] <smallfry> nice mordland-iv same here
[09:16] <pubo> jescis, well. When I work with servers, I don't have anything visual. On Desktops, I always use Xorg
[09:17] <nordland-iv> lol
[09:17] <nordland-iv> where ya from dude
[09:17] <smallfry> canada
[09:17] <smallfry> you?
[09:17] <Getsuga> oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:18] <nordland-iv> lol, I'm from Canada too
[09:18] <nordland-iv> where in canada?
[09:18] <nordland-iv> BC by any chance?
[09:18] <Getsuga> algum brasileiro por aew!?!
[09:18] <jescis> I only want a distro with no gui. But the ability to watch videos and look at images.
[09:18] <Getsuga> ou alguem ki falei portugues
[09:18] <smallfry> no sorry saskatchewan
[09:18] <fx|RabBi1> what command do i use to format a hdd?
[09:19] <Getsuga> Not. i don't from Canadá
[09:19] <smallfry> format hdd
[09:19] <nordland-iv> to have a distro w/o a GUI first you must forget all you've learned of GUI's
[09:19] <fx|RabBi1> smallfry: umm nope:P
[09:19] <Getsuga> I From Brazil
[09:19] <nordland-iv> and then start at the bottom of linux and 20 years from now you will understand how to get by without a GUI 100% LOL
[09:19] <jpatrick> !br | Getsuga
[09:19] <ubotu> Getsuga: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português.  Does it have a web page with info and pics about the server version?
[09:24] <utarpradesh> hi
[09:24] <Meneertje> hi
[09:24] <utarpradesh> how can i implement GRUB as my BIOS again after re-installing xp?
[09:24] <smallfry> where is everyone from
[09:24] <smallfry> ?
[09:24] <nordland-iv> I had to renew once...it was...very annoying
[09:24] <utarpradesh> i have a xp/ubuntu dual boot
[09:24] <nordland-iv> are you from BC smallfry?
[09:25] <utarpradesh> grub as my dual boot menu, i mean to say
[09:25] <smallfry> no im from saskatchewan
[09:25] <pubo> jescis, info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition . For Pics... take the console xD
[09:25] <n2diy> USA/PA
[09:25] <nordland-iv> don't worry I promise I won't track you down and spread creamcheese all over your chest hahaha
[09:25] <nordland-iv> whoah
[09:25] <nordland-iv> sask, thats sweet, I think theres a big Lan party going down there soon from guys that come from here
[09:25] <nordland-iv> (nerd moment)
[09:26] <smallfry> cool awesome
[09:26] <utarpradesh> help me?
[09:26] <utarpradesh> :(
[09:26] <smallfry> what the problem
[09:27] <compudogg> anyone can tell me where to get opengl python bindings and the gtkglext python bindings save me the trouble of searching? xd
[09:27] <jescis> pubo: lol && thanks
[09:28] <nordland-iv> ugh, what does one do with so many hours to spare?
[09:29] <compudogg> get drunk
[09:29] <smallfry> no one knows i had to stay up just to say good bye to my ex she is going to bolivia
[09:30] <ArthurArchnix> smallfry: Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:30] <nordland-iv> hah
[09:30] <smallfry> why?
[09:30] <nordland-iv> to say goodbye to your ex? wtf? shes your ex
[09:31] <smallfry> ya but i have a chance to get back with her
[09:31] <nordland-iv> the moderator in offtopic isnt doing his job they're talking about the same stuff there than they are in here
[09:31] <smallfry> a very high chance
[09:31] <nordland-iv> lol a chance
[09:31] <nordland-iv> and shes going to Bolivia
[09:31] <ArthurArchnix> Guys... please, just take it to offtopic
[09:31] <smallfry> for 10 days
[09:31] <smallfry> no
[09:32] <nordland-iv> they'll just boot you if you say no, thats the way these doofus' work
[09:32] <nordland-iv> they may also boot you if you refer to them as doofus'
[09:32] <smallfry> ive been saying no for like an hour
[09:33] <nordland-iv> ooh, ubuntu moderators are more lenient perhaps
[09:33] <smallfry> my bro got booted from every server
[09:33] <nordland-iv> wow.
[09:34] <compudogg> - -''
[09:34] <smallfry> it took him like two months
[09:35] <Getsuga> I Wanna to learn speak inglish... I'm Brazilian
[09:35] <jescis> Getsuga: they have a ##english channel
[09:36] <nordland-iv> hahaha
[09:36] <nordland-iv> this jescis guy kills me
[09:36] <smallfry> what time is it in BC?
[09:36] <Getsuga> somebode helpe me?!
[09:36] <nordland-iv> 2:36
[09:36] <Getsuga> somebody***
[09:36] <nordland-iv> I'll help you if you have a sister I can _____
[09:36] <MeatPopsicle> Smallfry: Same time as it is in Original WoW
[09:36] <ArthurArchnix> !ask | Getsuga
[09:36] <ubotu> Getsuga: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:36] <jescis> nordland-iv: Why you say that?
[09:36] <ArthurArchnix> !ops | nordland-iv & smallfry
[09:37] <ubotu> nordland-iv & smallfry: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[09:37] <smallfry> wow
[09:37] <nordland-iv> wtf
[09:37] <cameron> i installed a hotwire deb file using gdebi, realized it was in apt repo a few moments later.. how do i remove it and install the apt repo version?
[09:37] <buddha> hey all... I have a question about installation... I've gone thru the FAQ done tons of searches on Google... it's about installing GRUB to the bootsector instead of the MBR... anyone who can help?
[09:37] <nordland-iv> (whoah are we allowed to say wtf?)
[09:38] <smallfry> i think so
[09:38] <Getsuga> I have one Sister very nice(beautiful)
[09:38] <nordland-iv> oooh
[09:39] <neopsyche> if i use virtual pc on ubuntu then will i be able to use tv card on windows as normal?
[09:39] <nordland-iv> this guy just might be able to buy himself a way into the english way
[09:39] <nordland-iv> U HAVE A TV CARD!?
[09:39] <Starnestommy> neopsyche: I don't think so
[09:39] <nordland-iv> dude...
[09:39] <nordland-iv> word.
[09:39] <pbne04> !grub | pbne04
[09:39] <nordland-iv> dont even bother w/ windows...
[09:39] <JC_Denton_> Is there a rss widget for the panel?
[09:40] <buddha> hello?
[09:40] <gerry_> hello
[09:40] <neopsyche> i need a recording solution for ubuntu but NOTHING fully equiped seems to work.
[09:40] <buddha> help with GRUB install?
[09:40] <cameron> neopsyche: have you tried audacity?
[09:40] <neopsyche> referring to TV
[09:40] <cameron> neopsyche: ah
[09:40] <cameron> is there a recommended way of doing what i asked?
[09:41] <gmn4> hslo
[09:41] <nordland-iv> have you tried using the TV version of ubuntu?
[09:41] <gmn4> siapakamu
[09:41] <buddha> GRUB experts anybody?
[09:41] <nordland-iv> Mythbuntu is it?
[09:42] <Getsuga> I'm going out
[09:42] <Shyde> cameron: you can uninstall it with the package manager
[09:42] <Getsuga> God Bye
[09:42] <smallfry> i hate school
[09:43] <Getsuga> for everybody
[09:43] <nordland-iv> yeah, school sucks
[09:43] <cookie> hello guys
[09:43] <buddha> yeah
[09:43] <Getsuga> Bye Bye
[09:43] <gmn4> hi....
[09:43] <nordland-iv> you should just sell drugs, thats the cool thing to do
[09:43] <cookie> I need an ip anonymizer excet tor because it doesn't work
[09:43] <gmn4> auoooooooooo
[09:43] <buddha> grub?
[09:43] <nordland-iv> hey cookie, do you eat garbage?
[09:43] <buddha> GRUB?
[09:43] <cookie> no I don't
[09:43] <cookie> grub
[09:43] <cookie> ?
[09:43] <Getsuga> I Go for my school
[09:43] <Starnestommy> buddha: what about it?
[09:43] <nordland-iv> lol.
[09:43] <cookie> grub? ip anonymizer
[09:44] <buddha> GRUB = grand unified boot loader
[09:44] <cameron> Shyde: i'm rather new to this process. thanks for the response :)
[09:44] <smallfry> thats awesome nordland-iv
[09:44] <nordland-iv> Grub, bootloader app
[09:44] <buddha> and I need help installing it
[09:44] <cookie> I know what grub is
[09:44] <cookie> I was asking for an ip anonymizer
[09:44] <cookie> and grub is nothing close to it
[09:45] <nordland-iv> ip anonymizer LOL
[09:45] <cookie> yes...I need my ip hidden
[09:45] <dgjones_> cookie, ip anonymizer for what? if its just freenode, have you looked into a cloak?
[09:45] <Starnestommy> cookie: what about tor didn't work?
[09:45] <nordland-iv> are you 1337 h4xx0rz d00d?
[09:45] <dgjones_> !cloak | cookie
[09:45] <ubotu> cookie: Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as !TOR due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[09:45] <nordland-iv> cookie needs to cloak his romulan warbird LOL
[09:46] <buddha> ok... setup (hd0,paritionNumber) does not work becuase I dont have the stage1 and stage2 files on the /Boot/Grub/ directory
[09:46] <cookie> no I don't for this server
[09:46] <cookie> I need for others I ssh to
[09:46] <cookie> nothing about tor worked
[09:46] <buddha> how to I get stage1 and stage2 files in the right directory?
[09:46] <smallfry> move them
[09:47] <buddha> from where?
[09:47] <smallfry> search for them
[09:47] <buddha> find does not find them
[09:47] <cookie> so nobody can help me?
[09:47] <buddha> or basically... this is the story
[09:47] <buddha> during installation of the OS
[09:47] <nordland-iv> nope, nobody can help you, you can go now
[09:47] <Starnestommy> cookie: the only other one besides tor that I see in the repos is anon-proxy
[09:47] <buddha> I chose not to install GRUB
[09:47] <Divilinux> hi all
[09:48] <cristian> cristian@cristian-desktop:~$ sudo modprobe cx88-dvb
[09:48] <cristian> cristian@cristian-desktop:~$
[09:48] <buddha> coz, it did not give me an option to install to the boot sector of the partition
[09:48] <nordland-iv> try googling crapeaud head
[09:48] <buddha> I mean.... coz, it did not give me an option to install to the boot sector of a partition
[09:48] <nordland-iv> (zats duh french for Salamander)
[09:48] <buddha> and I did not want it to be installed to the MBR
[09:49] <buddha> so I think now I dont have any GRUB files in my OS
[09:49] <smallfry> well i just did a system search and found the files you were looking for
[09:49] <buddha> or I mean in my file system
[09:49] <buddha> yeah... that's becuase u have it installed
[09:50] <smallfry> so install it then just move them
[09:50] <buddha> that's the problem...
[09:50] <buddha> I dunno how
[09:50] <buddha> I tried grub-install (hd0,partitionNumber)
[09:50] <smallfry> reinstall all of it from scratch
[09:50] <buddha> same with setup (hd0.....)
[09:51] <buddha> and install(hd0....)
[09:51] <ArthurArchnix> !enter | buddha
[09:51] <ubotu> buddha: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:51] <buddha> ok
[09:51] <hr|Starbucks> hello is someone there
[09:51] <ArthurArchnix> buddha: One sec... there's a guy called herman whose got a lot of great stuff on this.. I'll see if I can find it.
[09:51] <hr|Starbucks> i need help
[09:51] <buddha> thank you
[09:52] <smallfry> with what hr/starbucks
[09:52] <jescis> hr|Starbucks: We all need help.
[09:52] <jpatrick> !help | hr|Starbucks
[09:52] <ubotu> hr|Starbucks: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:52] <hr|Starbucks> i installed ubuntu and it wants to check my files every boot
[09:52] <jpatrick> !ask | hr|Starbucks
[09:52] <ubotu> hr|Starbucks: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:52] <hr|Starbucks> i stopped it with sudo touch /fastboot
[09:52] <hr|Starbucks> but how can i add his to the run level
[09:53] <smallfry> good question
[09:53] <ArthurArchnix> buddha: I can't seem to resolve it, but I'm having ip issues. Try this link http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/
[09:53] <buddha> tnx
[09:53] <smallfry> no does anyone know the answer
[09:53] <buddha> let me check it out
[09:53] <buddha> ah... been there
[09:53] <buddha> did not quite understand
[09:53] <buddha> but let me go through it again
[09:53] <nordland-iv> any fluxbox/blackbox usrz here?
[09:54] <nordland-iv> eh eh?
[09:54] <blackjack> i am a problem
[09:54] <hr|Starbucks> ^^ because i dont want type in "sudo touch /fastboot" every single time
[09:54] <nordland-iv> u should use "gksudo"
[09:54] <hr|Starbucks> just list "gksudo touch /fastboot"?
[09:54] <hr|Starbucks> *like
[09:54] <nordland-iv> lol
[09:55] <nordland-iv> well its not going to help you
[09:55] <ArthurArchnix> hr|Starbucks: no. Don't do that. gksudo is sudo for graphical apps. Touch is command line.
[09:55] <nordland-iv> hahaha (lol)
[09:55] <hr|Starbucks> xD
[09:55] <smallfry> i love messing around with peoples heads
[09:55] <smallfry> (LOL)
[09:55] <hr|Starbucks> ^^ im not very talented in ubuntu
[09:55] <buddha> ArthurArchnix, thanks for trying to help... I'll try to look through this in detail
[09:56] <nordland-iv> nor am I dude, nor am I.
[09:56] <ArthurArchnix> buddha: Good luck. I'm no good at anything but default grub installs myself, or else I'd take a closer look at your issue.
[09:56] <nordland-iv> I think anyone talented with Ubuntu would gopher Debian, Ubuntu holds ur hand like you're a baby
[09:56] <ArthurArchnix> buddha: If you end up reinstalling, use the alternate cd. It lets you choose where to install grub.
[09:56] <hr|Starbucks> htg thanks for your help .. i will come back later .. ^^ because i didnt get it so far
[09:57] <buddha> oh np... the URL u gave me should help
[09:57] <buddha> last time... I guess I overlooked some of the info
[09:57] <buddha> oh ok
[09:57] <buddha> that's awesome
[09:57] <buddha> that's good to know
[09:57] <buddha> awesome
[09:57] <hr|Starbucks> byebye see ya
[09:57] <buddha> thanks
[09:57] <nordland-iv> usually I figure out my problems by googling and backing up because often things screw you over
[09:57] <nordland-iv> especially with Ubuntu Wifi w/ Ndiswrapper compatibilities...
[09:58] <buddha> I intended to ask about that alternate CD.... but, it had slipped my mind... thanks for reminding me and answering the question about the alternate cd
[09:59] <en4rab> is anyone here knowledgable about kernel params and the intel 845 chipset?
[09:59] <smallfry> maybe
[10:00] <en4rab> I cant boot the ubuntu graphical install, as it trys to load agpgart and intel_agp modules even though I have disabled the onboard graphics in bios, this causes a kernel oops
[10:01] <en4rab> I managed to get ubuntu installed using the alt install, but i have to edit the modprobe blacklist before the fresh install will boot
[10:01] <Yon> hey guys, the other day i plugged my ipod in while rhythmbox and tried to add music to my ipod, but once i took my ipod out it stoped working, its as if i have no music on my ipod and in windows i cant do anything but update
[10:01] <en4rab> Yon i think the ipod firmware changed how it stores music and older ipod tools will wipe the misic databse
[10:02] <en4rab> but dont quote me on that
[10:02] <googlah|sleepy> Yon: this is why you have "safely remove USB hardware" in windows, don't know how to apply it in Ubuntu though. Had my MP3-player corrupted this way once.
[10:02] <en4rab> something to do with needing a key from your ipod was the fix i think
[10:03] <smallfry> yon: some times it more time to add the music than what the computer tells you and remember to unmount the ipod before unplugging it
[10:03] <ArthurArchnix> en4rab: so what's the question
[10:03] <Yon> ok, so rhythmbox shouldnt break my ipod?
[10:03] <aurax> has anyone tried running a binary made by installjammer on ubuntu 7.10-server ?
[10:04] <smallfry> yon: no way mans
[10:04] <aurax> i run the binary file in shell and nothing happens.
[10:04] <googlah|sleepy> Yon: not really
[10:04] <Yon> the thing is if i plug it in now, rhythmbox sees the ipod normally and all the music thats on it
[10:04] <en4rab> Is there a proper way to disable loading the intel video modules from the boot prompt? or do i have to use alt install then edit the blacklist if i want to reinstall
[10:05] <dakkyLAP> hello can anyone help me
[10:05] <en4rab> Yon the ipod uses a database of music for its track listing, it doesnt scan the filesystem
[10:05] <nordland-iv> do we cant sorry, you're going to have to go somewhere else
[10:05] <googlah|sleepy> dakkyLAP: describe your problem instead.
[10:05] <nordland-iv> *no
[10:05] <aurax> anyone ?
[10:05] <dakkyLAP> i just installed ubuntu desktop 7.10 to a hdd and now it ask me for a username when it booted off the hdd
[10:05] <smallfry> yon: dont use rymthmbox to load music, either use the terminal and copy paste it or dont use the terminal
[10:06] <dakkyLAP> what username and password to enter?
[10:06] <nordland-iv> no duh it asks for a username
[10:06] <Yon> but with an ipod i cant copy paste
[10:06] <nordland-iv> the ones YOU entered before?
[10:06] <dakkyLAP> i've entered a password before, not a username ?
[10:06] <dakkyLAP> it was booted off the cd
[10:06] <googlah|sleepy> dakkyLAP: Didn't you set a username and password during the install?
[10:07] <nordland-iv> hah wtf
[10:07] <dakkyLAP> lol
[10:07] <dakkyLAP> i thought i entered organisation
[10:07] <dakkyLAP> not username
[10:07] <Yon> smallfry, in windows i have to use itunes, if i copy paste it doesnt play the music, it stores it like an external hdd stores data
[10:08] <smallfry> yon: you should be able to. go to the settings on the ipod. there should be usb modes, one used as a thumb drive and the other for a mp3 player
[10:08] <nordland-iv> dude, there are two different "username" like things you enter
[10:08] <dakkyLAP> thanks anyway
[10:08] <ArthurArchnix> en4rab: I can't think of a better way than the way you've done it. Alt, then blacklist. Do you think it's possible to force a video driver at boot though?
[10:08] <nordland-iv> one is how you show up on LAN and one is your username...
[10:08] <nordland-iv> if you cant remember those things well you'll have to re-install I'm afraid ubuntu doesn't have a password recovery for those kinda stupid mistakes...
[10:08] <nordland-iv> or maybe they do..hm
[10:09] <ArthurArchnix> dakkyLAP: Did you set up a username when you installed?
[10:09] <alromaithi> linux is cool and flexible however you need to do things in terminal , and if not then  get some scripts which are available on the net . and i hope the new ubuntu will have those scripts configured in by default that will persua more people into linux
[10:09] <en4rab> ArthurArchnix: im not sure i saw reference to a brokenmodules= kernel param that seems to no longer exist
[10:09] <smallfry> you have to set up a username when u instal it doesent give u a choice
[10:09] <Yon> smallfry, im looking but i cant find any kind of usb settings on my ipod
[10:09] <aurax> has anyone tried running a binary made by installjammer on ubuntu 7.10-server ?
[10:10] <aurax> i run the binary file in shell and nothing happens.
[10:10] <en4rab> and there is aparently an i810= param that isnt documented apart from its existence
[10:10] <ArthurArchnix> en4rab:  take a look here.. maybe there is something?    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[10:11] <MeatPopsicle> alromaithi: I'll agree with you there, I've been using the tux on and off for a couple of years now, but even as a pc geek, and licenced tech, I fint myseld getting impatient with having to repeat the same long console commands
[10:11] <smallfry> yon: the other thing is get a program called wine. wine makes it so u can install windows programs on linux
[10:11] <ArthurArchnix> en4rab:  Maybe disable the framebuffer?
[10:11] <ArthurArchnix> en4rab: Or set the vesa mode?
[10:11] <Yon> smallfry, u saying i should install itunes on wine?
[10:12] <smallfry> yon: maybe that may be ur only choice left
[10:12] <nagy1> hello! could someone help me to compile HTK? probably it misses the X headers, but I am not sure.
[10:12] <|2-bits|> iTunes doesn't work too well on wine
[10:12] <|2-bits|> in my experience
[10:12] <smallfry> ya
[10:12] <en4rab> ArthurArchnix: I thought about both of those things, which might work for a headless install, but i wanted to have the PCI nvidia working, I got it going in the end but it wasnt an elegant install
[10:13] <Yon> i hate itunes so much :s
[10:13] <ArthurArchnix> sounds like you're two and three steps ahead en4rab
[10:13] <Yon> the only way to fix my hdd is by updateing my firmware right?
[10:13] <jim_p> hi
[10:13] <Rybaxs> hello
[10:13] <smallfry> yon: if all else fails get a new mp3 player
[10:14] <en4rab> Ideally id have liked to disable agpgart and intel_agp from the boot prompt so the normal install dick would boot
[10:14] <alromaithi> MeatPopsicle: , i think we are good hearted clever people :) , we  can predict what consumers really want , the system market gets 40 % , and we know how to get the other 40% , however sadly we are lazy to write a shoutcast or a thread poll which can get votes and advertise it to recieve great number of vote sso these  Homicidal Geeks can see t hat we are saying the truth then work on what the 40 % of w hat we know  people want  in th
[10:14] <alromaithi> eir Ubuntu System.
[10:14] <en4rab> disk even oops
[10:14] <Yon> smallfry, lol
[10:14] <|2-bits|> don't ipods work with rhythmbox
[10:14] <|2-bits|> Works for me
[10:15] <ArthurArchnix> alromaithi: This isn' t the best place for that. Type /join #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss it
[10:15] <smallfry> yon is having problems with it 2-bits.
[10:15] <en4rab> I think this is probably a bug in the intel 810 graphics drivers in that they dont recognise the case where onboard graphics have been disabled in bios so they still try to init the now disabled card
[10:15] <Yon> |2-bits|, can i update my firmware from rhythmbox?
[10:16] <alromaithi> ArthurArchnix: no more discussions about it , im lazy for that aswel
[10:16] <|2-bits|> Yon: Oh. I don't think so, no
[10:16] <smallfry> peace everyone
[10:16] <kLe> hello to everyone.. :)
[10:17] <kLe> I' trying to voice-chat through gtalk..
[10:17] <kLe> any idea?
[10:17] <en4rab> Yon:  Im sure i read a while ago that apple changed the ipod firmware so the music database needed a key from the Ipod or the ipod wouldnt read the updated database, so copying music to the ipod would result in your situation, ie the music is there but the ipod doesnt see it
[10:18] <imyousuf> I am facing a strange problem is linux :(. I have created a group master. Then I did adduser user master. I created a directory in root's directory (that is root is owner). then I did chown :master ./new-dir; chmod g+w ./new-dir; but then when I do 'touch a.txt' using the 'user' who is added to the group I get permission denied :(
[10:18] <imyousuf> ny idea where and what I am doing wrong?
[10:19] <nordland-iv> me comes back with a huge glass of green tea
[10:19] <nordland-iv> peace out nigga
[10:19] <nordland-iv> LOL
[10:19] <alromaithi> nordland-iv:
[10:19] <ArthurArchnix> !ops
[10:19] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[10:19] <en4rab> http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/15/ipods-blocked-from-synching-with-linux/
[10:19] <alromaithi> Matcha Green Tea is the strongest effect of Aroma release of relaxation for green tea , www.teavana.com
[10:19] <Mighty_Pooh> Hi im trying to install syncevolution but it tells me configure: error: libcurl is required, check that its development package is installed and curl-config is in your PATH . libcurl is installed how do i make sure its in my path
[10:19] <jpatrick> yay!ops | alromaithi
[10:19] <preor> hi
[10:20] <bullgard4> Is it permissable to add a line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf > Section 'Monitor' "DisplaySizeWidth_in_millimeters"?
[10:20] <preor> Can anyone help me with my soundcard, Audigy platinum. I installed asla mixer tools increased all volumes yet no sounds :S
[10:20] <Kyro2> bullgard4, I doubt it
[10:20] <Yon> en4rab, Yeah ok i understand that but i put music on from itunes and it was working, then i pluged it into linux and i saw that rhythmbox can read my ipod so i tried adding a few albums through rhythmbox and after i ejected from rhythmbox i took my ipod out and it acted as if i have no music at all
[10:21] <kLe> @bullgard.. i don't think so...
[10:21] <blue-frog> imyousuf: have you logged out since you have added your user to the master group?
[10:21] <imyousuf> nope
[10:21] <ArthurArchnix> imyousuf: what's the output of: ls -l / | grep new-dir
[10:21] <StFS> hello... is anybody else having problems with a skype update in ubuntu? I keep getting some error when I try installing the package that just popped up from the medibuntu archives
[10:21] <bullgard4> Kyro2: And what should I do if my monitor reports wrong measures to the operating system?
[10:21] <ArthurArchnix> imyousuf: replace new-dir of course
[10:22] <en4rab> Yon when you tried tto add music to the ipod under linux it probably tried to update the database and broke the sha1 hash of the database
[10:22] <en4rab> there is a fix for this im sure
[10:22] <kLe> may skype burn in hell.. LOL.. ;)
[10:22] <en4rab> i think i read how to extrack your ipods keys so you can resign the database
[10:22] <blue-frog> imyousuf: so log out/log in. the new group membership will become effective
[10:22] <en4rab> im trying to find a link now
[10:23] <CMooney> Hi, I was hoping to get some technical advice
[10:23] <en4rab> all that is needed to fix you song list is to resign the database
[10:23] <reel_> Hi, how do I get the the install-size of all packages installed in my system ?
[10:23] <imyousuf> newgrp master also helped blue-frog :)
[10:23] <sybariten> a friend cant run nano on my ubuntu machine, we both have accounts there. It starts allright for me, but he just gets a new shell prompt. Any logs or so, i could check?
[10:24] <imyousuf> the #git helped me with it :)
[10:24] <Yon> en4rab, ok how do i do this?
[10:24] <ArthurArchnix> sybariten: compare which groups you're a part of and which you friend is a part of.
[10:24] <kLe> uh.. this channel is reaaaally busy!! :|
[10:24] <ArthurArchnix> sybariten: groups username1 username2
[10:25] <en4rab> Yon: im looking for details now
[10:26] <kLe> anyone succeded in voice-talking with gtalk network?
[10:26] <Yon> en4rab, ok thank you :)
[10:26] <jim_p> i am thinking of substituting my onboard sound card with a proper one. Since i have never done this in linux in general, is there something else i need to do? I mean other than pointin alsa to that card
[10:27] <bullgard4> antrik: Ich werde Deinem Rat folgen und auf Hardy warten. Jetzt scheint ja wieder alles zu funktionieren. --  In /etc/X11/xorg.conf eine Zeile in die Sektion 'Monitor' mit dem Text "DisplaySizeWidth_in_millimeters 330" ist nicht wirksam, so wie das bei FreeBSD wohl geht?
[10:28] <aurax> has anyone tried running a binary made by installjammer on ubuntu 7.10-server ?
[10:28] <aurax> i run the binary file in shell and nothing happens.
[10:29] <smaila> how do i play .swf files ?
[10:31] <odd> browser window
[10:32] <smaila> odd:codec pls ?
[10:32] <en4rab> Yon: http://www.niceguyuk.ukshells.co.uk/2007/09/making-new-ipods-work-with-linux.php
[10:32] <Thutti> I have a problem metacity does not work with compiz turned on! Why?
[10:33] <en4rab> that is a messy way to fix the problem but im unsure if gtkpod or any other linux ipod managers have integrated this functionality into the software
[10:33] <simion314> hi, please tell me what is the command to delete a file from a shell, and how t delete all files from the curent directory
[10:33] <Yon> en4rab, thanks :)
[10:34] <en4rab> first of all id check to see if gtkpod has sorted this
[10:34] <odd> smaila:http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[10:34] <smaila> odd; tnx i try that
[10:35] <simion314> hi, please tell me what is the command to delete a file from a shell, and how t delete all files from the curent directory
[10:35] <jpatrick> simion314: rm filename and rm * to delete all files, but _be careful_
[10:35] <jussi01> simion314: rm filename    will remove a file
[10:36] <simion314> thx to all
[10:36] <jussi01> simion314: very carful
[10:36] <hughhalf> simion314: But as jpatrick points out, exercise care, particularly if you're doing this as root!
[10:37] <en4rab> Yon that info is from september last year, id be surprised if gtkpod hasnt added hashing the database to its code
[10:37] <simion314> rm will not delete folders?
[10:37] <jpatrick> simion314: rm -r for folders
[10:37] <Radit> simion rm -rf
[10:37] <jpatrick> simion314: or just rmdir folderName
[10:37] <simion314> thx
[10:39] <jussi01> simion314: again, be careful ;)
[10:39] <simion314> yes i am not root
[10:39] <simion314> i just delete some configuration files
[10:42] <en4rab> Yon:  are you still there? you might have a bit more luck ot the #gtkpod channel, ask to see if they have sorted the database hash problem
[10:42] <kLe> hey.. I'm trying to (voice) talk with my friends throught GTalk.. any idea?
[10:44] <Yon> en4rab, ok thanks ill try
[10:45] <Yon> en4rab, so i think if i use gtkpod to put music on my ipod i wont get this problem?
[10:46] <en4rab> if gtkpod has updated their software to has the databse properly
[10:46] <en4rab> hash even
[10:46] <en4rab> if the ipod detects an invalid hash it will report no songs on the ipod
[10:46] <en4rab> im looking to see if gtkpod have fixed this
[10:48] <en4rab> Yon:  Im fairly sure the latest gtkpod / libgpod should fix this problem
[10:48] <odd> anyone know of any good mmorpgs for linux?
[10:48] <aurax> has anyone tried running a binary made by installjammer on ubuntu 7.10-server ?
[10:48] <en4rab> the changelog for libgpod suggest they added the firewireid hash function
[10:48] <aurax> i run the binary file in shell and nothing happens.
[10:49] <strucno> caoo
[10:49] <Yon> en4rab, ill get it now, thanks for helping :)
[10:50] <en4rab> in future avoid apple products, they might be shiney but apple are evil lol :)
[10:50] <SNuxoll> en4rab: I don't think we have the right to tell users what not to spend their money on *glares*
[10:50] <nagy1> could someone help me to compile HTK? probably it misses the X headers, but I am not sure. I've already installed libx11-dev, but it didn't help
[10:50] <en4rab> odd: try www.ogame.org its not graphical but its as addictive as crack
[10:51] <odd> cool thx man
[10:51] <en4rab> its like a sort of space based civilisation
[10:52] <Yon> en4rab, lol, i dont know any other mp3 player that compares to the new nano that i can actally get here in South Africa :P
[10:52] <meyellow> hi there
[10:52] <meyellow> am a newcomer to ubuntu and was just wondering if someone could answer my question
[10:52] <en4rab> SNuxoll: You are probably right but since apple introduced this sha1 hash just to break the aftermarket software I stand by my comments they are evil
[10:53] <SNuxoll> en4rab: eh, my iPod's working just fine, 'though I'm using hardy
[10:53] <nagy1> !ask | meyellow
[10:53] <ubotu> meyellow: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[10:53] <Fireball> installing package gforge is broken in ubuntu LTS
[10:53] <Fireball> where to report?
[10:53] <|2-bits|>  That's a very microsoft kind of move, actually, that whole SHA1 thing
[10:53] <SNuxoll> !launchpad | fireball
[10:53] <ubotu> fireball: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[10:54] <en4rab> SNuxoll:  how old is your ipod? its the new ones that had this hash, and the problem ahs been fixed in gtkpod i think
[10:54] <Fireball> SNuxoll - thx
[10:54] <SNuxoll> en4rab: it's a new 80GB classic
[10:54] <meyellow> i have an nvidia geforce 8600m gs and am trying to run ubuntu however the xorg.conf file seems not to pick this up and comes up with an error message so i have tu ose the vesa setup
[10:54] <meyellow> i am using 8.04
[10:54] <SNuxoll> !hardy
[10:54] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[10:54] <SNuxoll> meyellow: ^
[10:55] <meyellow> ok
[10:55] <meyellow> regards
[10:55] <meyellow> thanks for ur help guys :)
[10:56] <en4rab> SNuxoll:  you wont see the problem with invalid itunesDB if you use uptodate tools to copy music to it as the sha1 was reversed in september last year a week or so after the problem came to light
[10:56] <Yon> en4rab, ok iv installed gtkpod, u think it will be able to fix my problem?
[10:56] <en4rab> Yon it should do, if you want to be sure check on #gtkpod on freenode
[10:57] <en4rab> they will know better
[10:57] <Yon> hehe its worth a try :P
[10:57] <SNuxoll> en4rab: to be honest though, I don't really use Ubuntu to sync my iPod anymore, I just boot XP and use iTunes, less hassle
[10:57] <en4rab> but the libgpod library changelog certaily indicates they added support to rehash the database
[10:58] <en4rab> im *guessing* just adding another song with gtkpod should trigger a rehashing of the DB
[10:58] <en4rab> but you might want to backup your songs first
[10:59] <Yon> Could not open "iTunesDB.ext" for reading extended info.
[10:59] <Yon> Extended info will not be used.
[10:59] <Yon> thats wat i get as soon as i open it
[11:02] <whileimhere> Hi I am trying to install the flash plugin that I downloaded as a tar from the adobe site. Can anyone tell me how to get the path to firefox?
[11:02] <SNuxoll> whileimhere: you don't need to download flash from adobe
[11:02] <SNuxoll> whileimhere: sudo apt-get install flahplugin-nonfree will take care of everything for you
[11:02] <primus> /usr/share/firefox
[11:03] <SNuxoll> *flashplugin-nonfree
[11:03] <whileimhere> I tired that SNuxoll and it did not work
[11:03] <SNuxoll> whileimhere: ?
[11:03] <whileimhere> ahh but using that tar file sure worked thanks!
[11:05] <kLe> sigh.. so no one  is able to voice chat with gtalk?? :'(
[11:06] <TroubleHelix> kLe, are you trying to test it?
[11:06] <fa1sal> hi all
[11:06] <kLe> 10x 4 ur reply TroubleHelix..
[11:06] <TroubleHelix> fa1sal, hi
[11:06] <kLe> I've tried with tapioca..
[11:07] <kLe> but I can't..
[11:07] <kLe> now I'm tryng under wine..
[11:07] <kLe> no luck
[11:07] <kLe> I've also used empathy wuth telepathy-tapioca..
[11:07] <kLe> no luck..
[11:07] <kLe> last resource could be gtalk2voip..
[11:07] <ArthurArchnix> !enter | kLe
[11:07] <ubotu> kLe: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:08] <Artiom> Hi does anybody have already user LPT port with ubuntu?
[11:08] <Artiom> with ioperm and outb commands?
[11:08] <kLe> (sorry) but gtalk2voip is only a proxy.. and this isn't a "clean" solution.. any suggestion or a way to reach the result with tapioca?
[11:09] <fa1sal> Support arabic ??
[11:09] <geo125> hi i have a problem
[11:09] <TroubleHelix> kLe, I dont know anything about tapioca. What result are you trying to get?
[11:10] <simion314> geo12?
[11:10] <dvoid> how can i list the content a an initrd.img ?
[11:10] <dvoid> *of an
[11:11] <geo125> i have ubuntu 7.10 and i just have download ubuntu 8.04 .... it is better to make boot and make a new install or make the installation inside my ubuntu 7.10?
[11:11] <aurax> has anyone tried running a binary made by installjammer on ubuntu 7.10-server ?
[11:11] <aurax> i run the binary file in shell and nothing happens.
[11:11] <kLe> @TH: since I really HATE skype for the way it "behaves" I've been used to talk to my friends with GTalk, all that I want is to connect to GTalk network and spend a word with my mates.. ;)
[11:11] <hr|Starbucks> hey im back
[11:12] <kLe> @aurax: no experience about it..
[11:12] <hr|Starbucks> does anyone know how long it takes to check my files ..
[11:12] <hr|Starbucks> at the starup from ubuntu
[11:12] <preor> Can anyone help me with my soundcards, I got 3 and none would work with ubuntu :S
[11:12] <ArthurArchnix> !hardy | geo
[11:12] <ubotu> geo: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[11:12] <aurax> aight i will try #ubuntu-server
[11:12] <simion314> geo125: my advice is not to use 8.04 if you do not must to use it
[11:12] <ArthurArchnix> hr|Starbucks: what do you mean, check you files at startup?
[11:12] <Myrtti> kLe: tried telepathy?
[11:12] <geo125> yes i know that
[11:13] <hr|Starbucks> there is that . "Checking file systems..."
[11:13] <geo125> why not to use it ? it isnt good?
[11:13] <simion314> geo125: not all packages from 7.10 are availlable in 8.04
[11:13] <Myrtti> geo125: because it isn't stable and released yet
[11:13] <ArthurArchnix> geo125: No, it is not good. It is alpha.
[11:13] <simion314> geo125 and you will want an app that there is not packaged yet
[11:14] <geo125> ok thank u
[11:14] <TroubleHelix> kLe, I don't think there is a real great solution out there at the moment. Ekiga? I use Asterisk, but that requires you to set up an Asterisk server - it's a little overkill possibly.
[11:14] <kLe> @Myrtti: I tried to.. but I didn't achieve the result.. but I've only installed some stuff from the rep.. and from what I've read telepathy is only a framework, I'd need an app like ereseva to use it. but.. I can't find it!
[11:14] <simion314> geo125: i tried it, but the missing packages made me to use 7.10
[11:14] <hr|Starbucks> (ArthurArchnix): there is that . "Checking file systems..."
[11:15] <ArthurArchnix> hr|Starbucks: Well, it could take a very long time. Depends on size of hard-drive. But it should only happen after every 30 mounts if you're using ext3
[11:15] <kLe> @TH:  yeh.. it seems that there's no plenty of solution.. the problem is that I would have to tell all my contact to move platform.. that's not a good news.. :(
[11:15] <fresd> hi, is there any way to know when I installed a program using aptitude or apt-get ?
[11:15] <simion314> geo125 if you have the space try to make a clean install and keep the present ubuntu, when 8.04 will be stable then you can use it, or you will use it anyway if you have all that you will need in the 8.04
[11:15] <SaddamBea> hello everyone, first time here
[11:16] <kLe> @fresd: i don't think there's any difference...
[11:16] <TroubleHelix> SaddamBea, Hiya.
[11:16] <simion314> Saddam: hello, new ubuntu user?
[11:16] <hr|Starbucks> (ArthurArchnix): yes im using ext3 and ive got 20 gb on my first hdd and 40 on my second ...
[11:16] <interceptor> !ru
[11:16] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[11:16] <SaddamBea> was trying do install ubuntu 7.10, but i get stuck at partition step... i got c: (windows, that will be deleted, to use only ubuntu on it) and d: for my personal files
[11:16] <geo125> ok thank u very much for the advise
[11:17] <interceptor> #ubuntu-ru
[11:17] <ArthurArchnix> It would take my system about 2 minutes then, after 30 mounts. hr|Starbucks  of course, you can change that parameter to check less frequently. But you know... you should probably stick with defaults.
[11:17] <SaddamBea> but i just cant make the partitions on the c: for ubuntu in the manual mode, and in auto mode, he selects the entire drive, wich i don't want
[11:18] <simion314> SaddamBea: delete the c: partition, then create 2 new partitions for swap and file system
[11:19] <spike_> hi all
[11:19] <kLe> ok, no solution.. I'll try to open a thread on the forum.. thanks for your help..
[11:19] <TroubleHelix> SaddamBea, and at the same time you should be able to mount your D: drive as an ntfs or fat partition under /dos or /windows or similar.
[11:20] <SaddamBea> simion314 gotta do this in "manual" mode?
[11:20] <spike_> i've a question a bount system to disk and system to ram feature
[11:20] <hr|Starbucks> (ArthurArchnix): yope ^^ do i have to put in the live cd and change the settings there`
[11:20] <simion314> SaddamBea yes,
[11:20] <SaddamBea> so, i have to do this before trying to install ubuntu or can i do it in the installation?
[11:21] <sybariten> ArthurArchnix: thanks, will do
[11:21]  * TroubleHelix Installed Hardy beta to get hardware suspend working, but it still doesn't. =(
[11:21] <simion314> SaddamBea: you can use a tool from windows if you are more familiar and create a new partion fr ubuntu  and one for swap
[11:21] <dr3ad> ml#nicksetup
[11:22] <spike_> i run ubuntu un an x64 machine and when i use the hibernate mode the system won't wake up
[11:22] <TroubleHelix> spike_, same here. I have an HP DV2000. You?
[11:22] <SaddamBea> simion314 and TroubleHelix thanks, i'll try it!
[11:22] <simion314> SaddamBea: in automatic mode i belive it will defragment and get a procent from your free space but i do not know if you can specify the partition, just do a manual
[11:22] <TroubleHelix> SaddamBea, GL!
[11:22] <sybariten> ArthurArchnix: my own user is part of 'adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin' ... his user is just part of... well, his user
[11:22] <spike_> TroubleHelix: Aspire 5102 WLMI
[11:22] <hr|Starbucks> (ArthurArchnix): will it save the settings then?
[11:22] <Blou_Aap> My alsa just randomly stops working, but when it does work Its not stereo and there is this very high frequency sound, any suggestions ?
[11:22] <simion314> SaddamBea: attention to not set the format flag on your data partition
[11:23] <denny> well this morning's upgrades did interesting things
[11:23] <SaddamBea> simion314 ok
[11:23] <ArthurArchnix> hr|Starbucks: No, no, not at all.
[11:23] <denny> my keyboard layout randomly changed to US, and I can't run terminals any more
[11:23] <ArthurArchnix> hr|Starbucks: One way is to check out man fstab   you'll learn how to turn off fstab for certain disks.
[11:24] <hr|Starbucks> (ArthurArchnix): ok ^^ but i could use "sudo touch /fastboot" in the live cd and then .. i couild start up ubuntu without checking .. and then i could change the settings
[11:25] <TroubleHelix> spike_, I didn't have much luck on Google, I'm just going to live without hibernate for a while. I hope you figure it out.
[11:26] <spike_> TroubleHelix: Thank you .
[11:26] <ArthurArchnix> hr|Starbucks: are you not able to boot your system?
[11:26] <Blou_Aap> My SOUND just randomly stops working, but when it does work Its not stereo and there is this very high pitched frequency sound on the counter stereo output, any help ?
[11:27] <hr|Starbucks> (ArthurArchnix): im just able to boot my system with the "live cd" but.. if i try to boot it from my hard disc .. it wants to check my files
[11:27] <ArthurArchnix> hr|Starbucks: So why don't you let it?
[11:27] <denny> Blou_Aap: sounds like your leads aren't quite in properly
[11:27] <denny> give everything a wiggle  :)
[11:28] <sasha_> how priority of binaries work? I mean I got for example 2 pidgin binaries 1 in /usr/bin/ other in /usr/local/bin/ how can I set the path from type?
[11:28] <sasuke> how can i switch to the german server?
[11:28] <sasha_>  type pidgin
[11:28] <sasha_> pidgin is /usr/local/bin/pidgin
[11:29] <Blou_Aap> denny, they are.
[11:29] <hr|Starbucks> (ArthurArchnix): cauz it takes so long .. and my computer is built into a bag ^^ (i built it in there) .. and its getting warm in this bag ^^ i took a fan to cool it
[11:29] <Pici> sasuke: type: /j #ubuntu-de
[11:29] <sasuke> thx
[11:29] <Blou_Aap> I might be bit noob with ubuntu, but not sound
[11:29] <TroubleHelix> Blou_Aap, what audio software are you using? ALSA?
[11:29] <Blou_Aap> ALSA\
[11:29] <Blou_Aap> yes
[11:30] <TroubleHelix> Blou_Aap, Maybe a frequency / sample rate mismatch... You might want to Google search your audio chipset and see if others have problems with it.
[11:30] <hr|Starbucks> (ArthurArchnix): brb
[11:31] <Blou_Aap> its onboard sound on my work pc
[11:31] <sasuke> whit what software can i look up the hardware of my pc?
[11:31] <ArthurArchnix> hr|Starbucks: in the amount of time you've spent trying to find away around this auto fsck you could have already completed the check.
[11:33] <TroubleHelix> Blou_Aap, Word, I'm just saying - find out the chipset, and google that, there may be some info you can learn from other's detective work. I usually just use the commandline tool 'alsamixer' to identify my card if I know ALSA is installed properly.
[11:34] <ArthurArchnix> hr|Starbucks: Anyway, here's more info for you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=300477
[11:34] <allam> icant install vlc
[11:34] <allam> how i can install vlc
[11:35] <allam> on ubuntu 7.10
[11:35] <rsk> allam: search for it in synaptic and install it
[11:35] <Pici> allam: Applications>Add/Remove Should let you install VLC fine.  Or if you're familiar with the terminal, sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:37] <Jaaz> any idea why suspend mode hangs system
[11:37] <allam> i have an error while installation
[11:37] <allam> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[11:37] <allam> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[11:37] <allam> that package should be filed.
[11:37] <allam> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[11:37] <allam> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:37] <allam>   vlc: Depends: vlc-nox (= 0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5) but it is not going to be installed
[11:37] <allam>        Depends: libsdl-image1.2 (>= 1.2.5) but it is not installable
[11:37] <allam>        Depends: ttf-dejavu but it is not installable
[11:37] <allam> E: Broken packages
[11:37] <allam> what i can do now
[11:37] <jpatrick> !paste | allam
[11:37] <ubotu> allam: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:37] <Myrtti> !paste | allam
[11:38] <bobostno> hello
[11:38] <hr|Starbucks> (ArthurArchnix): thanks Arthur thats very nice of you
[11:39] <hr|Starbucks> (ArthurArchnix): i mean that u help me
[11:39] <bobostno> could any 1 help me im trying to install ubuntu on a pc i have but when i go to load the cd it only gets to a certain point then turns to tet saying "*preparing restricted drivers"
[11:40] <allam> when i trying to install  vlc from add/remove i jave this error This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'vlc' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[11:40] <allam> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict
[11:40] <legend2440> allam:  try sudo aptitude install vlc
[11:41] <allam> and when i go to synaptic i have this error vlc:
[11:41] <allam>  Depends: vlc-nox but it is not going to be installed
[11:41] <allam>  Depends: libsdl-image1.2 (>=1.2.5) but it is not installable
[11:41] <allam>  Depends: ttf-dejavu  but it is not installable
[11:41] <jpatrick> !paste | allam
[11:41] <legend2440> allam:  try sudo aptitude install vlc
[11:41] <ubotu> allam: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:41] <ArthurArchnix> hr|Starbucks: It's no problem, I didn't think you were being sarcastic. I gave you a link to some relevant info because I'd rather not help you to avoid ever fscking your drives. You should be able to do that if you want to, but I don't want to be the one that helps you do it. :)
[11:42] <hr|Starbucks> (ArthurArchnix): ^^ ok =)
[11:42] <allam> when i trying to use aptitude i have this error E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:42] <allam> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:42] <jpatrick> !aptfix | allam
[11:42] <ubotu> allam: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:43] <legend2440> allam:  try sudo aptitude install vlc make sure synaptic is closed
[11:43] <bobostno> so does any 1 have a clue as to why ubuntu wont load from the cd
[11:43] <hr|Starbucks> (ArthurArchnix): im just a little noob in ubuntu .. who wants to learn some things in ubuntu
[11:43] <ArthurArchnix> allam: Close down terminals. Close down synatpic. Close down add/remove. Once everything is closed, try again with the terminal.
[11:44] <hr|Starbucks> ill be back .. see you later
[11:44] <hr|Starbucks> bye
[11:44] <legend2440> ArthurArchnix: hr built his computer in a bag?
[11:45] <ArthurArchnix> legend2440: I didn't understand and didn't want to know.
[11:45] <allam> thank you very much
[11:45] <legend2440> ArthurArchnix: lol
[11:45] <allam> now i can install it
[11:46] <jabb><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:50] <ak5> hello, is there a gutsy repo for latest (8.3) closed ati drivers? or must I do it manually
[11:51] <allam>  when i try aptitude i have this message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59912/
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> allam, uninstall vlc and vlcnox
[11:52] <allam> it is not installed
[11:53] <Tyczek> hi I've question... I need to mount drive from windows (f.e) D on ubuntu... how to do it ?
[11:53] <ak5> Tyczek: same machine or shared network drive?
[11:53] <Tyczek> ak5, shared network
[11:53] <buddha> all... wish me luck
[11:53] <ak5> Tyczek: you have samba?
[11:53] <buddha> about to install from the alternate cd
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> allam, try sudo apt-get install -reinstall vlc vlc-nox
[11:54] <buddha> laters
[11:55] <ak5> still looking for bleeding edge ati gutsy repo... anyone know of something like this?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> allam, sudo apt-get install --reinstall vlc vlc-nox
[11:56] <preor> Can anyone help me with step 9 in here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455147  ,when I typed cd alsa-lib..... it said no such file or directory so I created alsa-lib in /home/user  then I typed sudo make clean it says (make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.) then I typed /.configure it says no such file or directory ?Can anyone help me with step 9 in here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455147  ,when I typed cd alsa-li
[11:56] <Tyczek> ak5 yes
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> ak5, "sudo apt-get install --reinstall"
[11:56] <compwiz18> anyone have the compiz fusion blur plugin working w/ fglrx and aiglx?
[11:56] <preor> ops
[11:56] <solexious> [Q] Can I revert to a clean install of ubuntu with out wiping and reinstalling?
[11:56] <Tyczek> ak5 I see drive... even can play mp3 when I click on it
[11:56] <ak5> Tyczek: so whats the problem
[11:56] <Tyczek> but I would like to have whole list... on moc f.e
[11:56] <Tyczek> because there I have my mp3 collection
[11:56] <ak5> ActionParsnip: um, ok.. what does that do?
[11:57] <ak5> Tyczek: I don't understand, sorry
[11:57] <compwiz18> solexious, probably not
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> ak5, guess from the command. itsfairly english
[11:57] <allam> ActionParsni:Command line option 'r' [from -reinstall] is not known.
[11:57] <solexious> compwiz18:dam
[11:57] <ak5> ActionParsnip: I was looking for a gutsy repo for bleeding edge ati drivers...
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> allam, you need to use --reininstall
[11:58] <Tyczek> ak5 well... I need to create mp3 playlist for example on quodlibet from folder located on D in samba
[11:58] <ak5> Tyczek: yeah.. and? It seems to me you can see your mp3s
[11:58] <allam> ActionParsnip:Couldn't find package vlc-no
[11:58] <ak5> allam nox
[11:59] <icesword> !info vlc
[11:59] <ubotu> vlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5.1 (gutsy), package size 1135 kB, installed size 3228 kB
[11:59] <Tyczek> ak5, yes, but I don't see //smb anywhere to add the folder... crap it's hard to explain >.<
[11:59] <Tyczek> :)
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> ak5, basically install the app then remove it again
[11:59] <ak5> ActionParsnip: yeah, I knew what it does per se, just not what it does to solve my problem :P
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> allam, basically you need to reinstall it then remove it again
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> ak5, getting confused with "a" names
[12:00] <ak5> ActionParsnip: tab completion? haha lazy, better tyoe the second letter too :P
[12:00] <kasra> Hi ! in Gutsy items on the panel ( date and time , notific area , workspace switcher & ...) change their position after new login , I tried to lock them but nothing ! any idea ?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> ak5, the commands there wilenable the restricted repos
[12:01] <allam> ActionParsnip:when i use your command i have this message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59913/
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> ak5, oh yeah I'm lazy. too much tabbing in my life
[12:01] <ak5> ActionParsnip: aren't we all :P
[12:01] <jc_denton> hello
[12:02] <kasra> Hi ! in Gutsy items on the panel ( date and time , notific area , workspace switcher & ...) change their position after new login , I tried to lock them but nothing ! any idea ?
[12:02] <icesword> olleh
[12:02] <legend2440> ak5: where did you hear about this ati repo?
[12:02] <ak5> ActionParsnip: I couldn't really follow you, the commands where?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> allam, try allam try sudo atp-get autoremove
[12:02] <odder> !hi | jc_denton
[12:02] <ubotu> jc_denton: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:02] <ak5> legend2440: I didn't hear of this repo, I wanted to see if this kind of repo exists, or if I should do it manually
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> allam, of maybe try sudo apt-get --fix-broken
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> allam, I'm pulling all this from google. you should search too
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> ak5, the one I sent enables the restricted drivers so you can install from there
[12:03] <legend2440> ak5: i have ati radeon. i don't think it exists.
[12:04] <Tyczek> ak5, allright... rhytmox is adding them :]
[12:04] <jc_denton> i got a problem with mount: i try to mount an adf image but no fs was found can someone help?
[12:04] <jc_denton> sudo mount -o loop -t adfs DISK1.adf 1
[12:05] <jc_denton> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop1,
[12:05] <ak5> ActionParsnip: I have enabled restricted drivers, just the ones in the standard repos are pretty old and require xserver-xgl for compiz, wheras the new ones have xgl built in
[12:05] <ak5> jc_denton: -f auto
[12:05] <jc_denton> ok will try that
[12:06] <ak5> jc_denton: sry it was -t
[12:06] <ak5> put auto behind -t
[12:06] <timfromtang> Hi all, I am installing gutsy on a toshiba tecra M1 for my daughter and am having some display problems, the first is that when I close the lid the display gets over large and we can only see the top corner of the desktop, this is solved at the moment by pressing ctrl alt f1 and then ctrl alt f7 so not really an issue for the moment, however the more serious issue is playing video, I have installed all the relevant codecs etc however I get sound but n
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> ak5, i always use nvidia and never compiz so I cant really help, try google
[12:07] <jc_denton> sudo mount -o loop -t auto DISK1.adf 1
[12:07] <jc_denton> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[12:07] <Brutality> when I try to mount my iphone it tells me this : 'ssh: Name or service not known'
[12:07] <jc_denton> ???
[12:07] <ak5> ActionParsnip: I have, asking humans is my last resort
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> tim_, try ctrl+alt_backspace when you open up
[12:07] <ak5> jc_denton: sry, my gentoo box does it that way :P
[12:07] <jc_denton> i check the man page for ubuntu
[12:07] <ak5> well thx anyway guys, guess I'll do it by hand
[12:07] <ak5> cya
[12:08] <costi> hi all
[12:08] <timfromtang> jc that will just kill the xserver, how will this help my video problem?
[12:08] <odder> !hi | costi
[12:08] <ubotu> costi: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> tim_, make sure you have the vido codecs for your format
[12:08] <costi> how can i take a foto from my webcam on /dev/video0 ?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> tim_, are you fully updated?
[12:08] <Brutality> when I try to mount my iphone it tells me this : 'ssh: Name or service not known'
[12:08] <timfromtang> yes I do have the correct video codecs
[12:08] <costi> i need to do it automated from a script
[12:09] <odder> Brutality: how do you mount it?
[12:09] <Brutality> i just type iphone-mount
[12:09] <timfromtang> I have identically installed all the codecs on my own thinkpad and everything is working fine on that, I think that it is probably related to the display adapter in the toshiba
[12:09] <mister> hola
[12:09] <mister> hola
[12:09] <AHA> hola
[12:10] <costi> ola
[12:10] <timfromtang> display adapter is a trident CyberBlade XP4m32
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> timfromtang, can you give us a pastebin of your xorg.conf
[12:10] <mister> de donde eres
[12:11] <odder> Brutality: oh, looks like you're simply mistyping the command ;) try sshfs
[12:11] <timfromtang> will do just a mo
[12:11] <powerboy> Dear all, i have printer epson stylus c-90. any body know to install it?
[12:11] <Brutality> im just a newbie in this, trying to get my iphone to work with ubuntu :P what should I do?
[12:11] <costi> anyone know how to make a photo from my webcam by the console
[12:12] <costi> so i can autoamte this process
[12:12] <odder> Brutality: after googling it, I've got: http://klems.net/?p=20 http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?p=260605 and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[12:13] <costi> well, ok cu!
[12:13] <jc_denton> hmmm ubuntu forces me to specify the filesystem
[12:13] <powerboy> Dear all, i have printer epson stylus c-90. any body know to install it?
[12:14] <shadowhywind> anyone have any ideas on why my caps/num/scroll lock led's wont work anymore?
[12:14] <smokeyd> hey guys. Everytime I am trying to execute a script on an nfs mounted share I get "Bad interpreter: Permission denied"
[12:14] <smokeyd> when I copy the same script to a local harddrive
[12:14] <smokeyd> the problem is gone
[12:14] <powerboy> Dear all, i have printer epson stylus c-90. any body know to install it?
[12:14] <smokeyd> is there a way to solve this?
[12:14] <shadowhywind> smokeyd i get the same issue on a fat32 partition
[12:14] <smokeyd> hmm
[12:14] <smokeyd> strange
[12:15] <Blou_Aap> get permissions on target drives
[12:15] <smokeyd> Blou_Aap: what do you mean?
[12:15] <Blou_Aap> wrx---- maybe
[12:15] <smokeyd> no all are 755
[12:15] <smokeyd> rwxr-xr-x
[12:15] <Blou_Aap> kk
[12:15] <legend2440> powerboy:  is the printer connected to your computer?
[12:16] <Blou_Aap> file system ?\
[12:16] <powerboy> yes legend2440
[12:16] <smokeyd> nfs
[12:16] <odder> powerboy: I've found http://tinyurl.com/2o8hm6
[12:16] <legend2440> powerboy: there is no driver listed?
[12:16] <shadowhywind> powerboy: for your printer try to install using the C68 drivers
[12:17] <powerboy> yes driver onlu in mac OS and windows
[12:17] <odder> shadowhywind: hah, googled it? :)
[12:17] <legend2440> powerboy:  yes and if that does not work try c63
[12:17] <shadowhywind> odder umm... possiably.. hehe
[12:17] <powerboy> sorry legend2440, i'm from indonesia so my english not well
[12:18] <legend2440> powerboy:  go to system>administration>printing
[12:18] <odder> I've seen somebody from Indonesia asking about C90 through Google
[12:18] <powerboy> legend2440i have to tried c63 but it doesn't woeks properly
[12:18] <legend2440> powerboy: try c68
[12:18] <timfromtang> here is my xorg config
[12:18] <timfromtang> Section "Files"
[12:18] <timfromtang> EndSection
[12:18] <timfromtang> Section "InputDevice"
[12:18] <timfromtang> 	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
[12:18] <timfromtang> 	Driver		"kbd"
[12:19] <powerboy> legend2440i have to tried c63 but it doesn't works properly and c 68 too
[12:19] <odder> powerboy: there's a thread mentioning C90 on linux-foundation.org, see http://forums.linux-foundation.org/read.php?26,2890,4934
[12:19] <MohammadBoozary> How to Download Only the Headers for Large Messages in Evolution ????!!!!
[12:19] <smokeyd> shadowhywind: I am reading this one
[12:19] <smokeyd> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/bash-bad-interpreter-permission-denied-52263/
[12:20] <smokeyd> might solve the problem
[12:20] <smokeyd> :)
[12:20] <odder> powerboy: and there's a driver for C90, I've sent you a link in a previous message
[12:21] <powerboy> ok. odder i will to see in  I've found http://tinyurl.com/2o8hm6. and legend2440 thx for your any the informations
[12:21] <shadowhywind> smokeyd nice link
[12:22] <ghostlines> why does ubuntu's iptables allow all traffic by default?
[12:22] <ghostlines> is this normal with most other distro's default installations too
[12:22] <smokeyd> shadowhywind: it worked
[12:22] <smokeyd> add the exec option in fstab to the mount
[12:23] <shadowhywind> does anyone know how to manually turn on caps/num/scroll lock
[12:24] <sybariten> shouldnt this file:    -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-05-30 09:46 /bin/nano    be allowed to be execute by just anyone?
[12:24] <smokeyd> shadowhywind: I think this should be in your BIOS
[12:24] <Myrtti> sybariten: it is
[12:24] <sybariten> i'm allowed to run nano myself, but a user on my system appearently gets asked for a root PW
[12:24] <smokeyd> there you can automatically turn on numlock
[12:24] <Brutality> How can I set up ipod-convenience?
[12:26] <scobby_> anyone have an idea why my cpufreq is only maximal 700 mhz in cpufreq_max and in gnome freqency applet ? i have a core2duo e6300 with 2,45 ghz
[12:26] <shadowhywind> smokeyd well thats the odd part, the lights all work up to a few seconds before the login screen is displayed and then the lights stop working
[12:26] <icesword> hehe,debian and ubuntu same time
[12:26] <icesword> cpufreq_max god knows what it is
[12:28] <smokeyd> shadowhywind: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[12:29] <shadowhywind> smokeyd thats not the issue, My caps/num/scoll lock all works. Its just that the LED lights don't turn on. But i think i may have it brb
[12:33] <Brutality> It gives me this when I try to mount now:
[12:33] <Brutality> iPod is not responding to pings at <IP_ADDRESS>.
[12:33] <Brutality> Please set the environment variable IGNOREPING if you want to ignore this.
[12:34] <rogue> good morning
[12:35] <bod_> good afternon rogue
[12:36] <bod_> afternoon*
[12:36] <X-Java> is it possible to use windows and ubuntu on same machine?
[12:36] <shadowhywind> well i fixed my LED light issues, had to uninstall the mouseemu package
[12:39]  * delcoyote hi
[12:39] <X-Java> is it possible to run ubuntu on xbox with xbox-linux kernel?
[12:40] <rogue> I am waiting on a dell I just won off ebay to use for this lfs project and I was doing an inventory of everything to make sure I had everything I needed once it arrived and I cannot fin the sources for the xwindows system...  can anyone point me in the right direction?  I have the lfslivecd-x86-6.3-r2160.iso and lfslivecd-x86-6.3-r2160-min.iso
[12:40] <wookienz> hi, i have loaded live cd and want to check a possibly faulty hard drive..what command can i use to check for physical errors?
[12:40] <Solaris444> evening.
[12:41] <X-Java> is it possible to run ubuntu on xbox with xbox-linux kernel?
[12:41] <Solaris444> wookienz, may i suggest the software for your model hdd?
[12:41] <Solaris444> That will probably be available on a bootable floppy.
[12:41] <wookienz> ok ta
[12:42] <Solaris444> do you know what brand it is?
[12:42] <wookienz> yuppers.
[12:42] <Solaris444> awesome.
[12:42] <Solaris444> X-Java: no idea
[12:43] <MohammadBoozary> How to Download Only the Headers for Large Messages in Evolution ????!!!!
[12:44] <X-Java> Solaris444: I have tested xUbuntu live CD which should work on PC and xbox but afler loading it crashes on both, PC and XBOX
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> MohammadBoozary, http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/b15fx7uz.html.en
[12:44] <Solaris444> Mohammad, is it the headers you want specifically or is it evolution you want it for?
[12:44] <rogue> sorry...  wrong channel...  I am using ubuntu and it works great...  just wish NFSV: Porsche Unleashed worked with wine because then I could drop M$-Win totally....
[12:44] <ader10> Is there a way to make the progress bar for copying files only be at 100% when it's safe to unmount (ex: you copy a file from your hard drive to your usb flash drive and the copy dialog says complete, but the file isn't completely written)
[12:44] <rogue> Have a happy St. Patricks Day EVERYONE!!!!
[12:44] <Solaris444> hmmm, might be a bad burn then X-Java.  Did you check the MD5 of your iso and your burn?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> rogue, tried cedega?
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Solaris444, He only wants the headers for the messages..
[12:44] <X-Java> I have burned 3 times and it was same problem
[12:45] <rogue> cdega for?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> rogue, also run wine setup.exe from your home drive (this will require you to use the full path to the setup.exe file)
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> X-Java, DO you get to start or install screen  and or desktop after that?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> rogue, games
[12:45] <X-Java> only black screen
[12:45] <typhox> how do i restart my computer from console?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> typhox, sudo shutdown -r now
[12:46] <odd> wow i never knew about wine
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> www.winhq.org
[12:46] <typhox> ok, thx
[12:46] <timfromtang> typhox type sudo shutdown -r now and enter your password when prompted to restart from console
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> typhox, $ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart         I think...  it is early
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Jack_Sparrow, using shutdown is way easier dude
[12:47] <Solaris444> Well MohammadBoozary, doesn't Thunderbird support header download only?
[12:48] <ccharles`> gdm restart doesn't reboot the box, only restarts X. shutdown is the way to go.
[12:48] <timfromtang> my video's wont display, sound works fine tosh tecra m1 correc`t codecs installed etc display card problem? card is a trident cyberblade XP4m32
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> ActionParsnip, His question was restart...  so that was what I gave him..  typing reboot  is fewer characters to type than shutdown.. if that is an issue
[12:49] <X-Java> Solaris444: http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/XUbuntu
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> timfromtang, what players have you tried?
[12:49] <typhox> How do I restart a process from console?
[12:49] <Odd-rationale> Is there a way to use a proxy with apt-get? Thanks!
[12:49] <timfromtang> gxine and totem
[12:49] <timfromtang> with dvd's
[12:49] <tobi> Odd-rationale, set the http_proxy enviroment variable
[12:49] <timfromtang> have libcss2 etc installed
[12:49] <timfromtang> will not play any video formats it sems
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> typhox, I'd use ps -ef | grep <name>
[12:50] <timfromtang> blank screen
[12:50] <ader10> Is there a way to make the progress bar for copying files only be at 100% when it's safe to unmount (ex: you copy a file from your hard drive to your usb flash drive and the copy dialog says complete, but the file isn't completely written)
[12:50] <Solaris444> X-Java, did you check your MD5s?
[12:50] <Solaris444> are you sure you have a good burn
[12:50] <X-Java> what do u mean?
[12:50] <Solaris444> Are you sure your download is not corrupted.
[12:50] <Odd-rationale> tobi: Which file would I find that?
[12:50] <Solaris444> Or that your burn did not work.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> typhox, the most left hand value is the pid. use sudo kill <pid>
[12:50] <Solaris444> by the way everyone:
[12:50] <Solaris444> Let's say I have a file that is solaris:user rwxrw-rw-
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter | timfromtang,
[12:51] <ubotu> timfromtang,: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:51] <Solaris444> and i copy it to a folder that is solaris:user drw-------
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> timfromtang, you got win32codecs ?
[12:51] <Solaris444> I want the file I copied to automatically assume the permissions of the parent folder.
[12:51] <timfromtang> ok will do from now on thanks
[12:51] <rogue> ActionParsnip, I will look into it...  So far the info I have been able to get from the net is that no one has been able to make it run...  Maybe I am looking in the wrong places
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> timfromtang, thanks
[12:52] <rogue> thx for the lead
[12:52] <timfromtang> yes i have the win32 codecs installed I think that it is probably a display adapter problem accelleration issue?
[12:52] <xipi> hi
[12:53] <tobi> Odd-rationale, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto#head-09fab4df311ef78d0376d13547043811307c49fa
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> X-Java, When you get to the black screen.. can you hit clrt-alt F and get a cli login prompt?
[12:53] <timfromtang> when I test the video card on screen and graphics preferences it fails
[12:53] <Odd-rationale> tobi: Thanks!
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> F1
[12:53] <xipi> hi
[12:54] <xipi> does any of you have any experiences with geforce 6100?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> xipi, in what way?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> timfromtang, try running glxgears
[12:55] <xipi> ActionParsnip: regarding compatibility issues
[12:55] <X-Java> Jack_Sparrow: I can try it
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> xipi, compatible wth what?
[12:55] <Jack_Sparrow> xipi, 6000's should not be hard..  6600 in this box
[12:55] <melfardi> ?
[12:55] <xipi> i am looking at buying a new pc
[12:55] <melfardi> wtf ?
[12:55] <xipi> and want to make sure, it will work well with ubuntu
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> melfardi, PLease stop.. that is not acceptable
[12:56] <Solaris444> xipi, how are you going to get a 6100?
[12:56] <Solaris444> isn't that an IGP?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> xipi, yes, nvidia is great with ubuntu. get it in
[12:56] <Solaris444> ActionParsnip, not so fast.
[12:56] <melfardi> sure
[12:56] <Solaris444> The 6100IGP might not be supported.
[12:56] <erUSUL> xipi: 6100 is integrated on motherboard? if that's the case i woulg get a intel based mobo instead of nvidia
[12:56] <xipi> Solaris444: it is on board an ECS
[12:57] <Solaris444> oh dude, don't you dare get an ecs mainboard.
[12:57] <xipi> erUSUL: why?
[12:57] <xipi> Solaris444: why not?
[12:57] <Solaris444> They are bottom bottom bottom of the barrel stuff.
[12:57] <melfardi> Y a t'il des français ?
[12:57] <Solaris444> You can forget about that lasting more than 2 years.
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr | melfardi
[12:57] <ubotu> melfardi: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:58] <xipi> Solaris444: any better idea?
[12:58] <Solaris444> Intel, MSI, Gigabyte, ASUS.
[12:58] <Solaris444> Any of those brands should be fine.
[12:58] <melfardi> thank jack sparrow & wtf
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> xipi, I agree with Solaris444
[12:58] <xipi> Solaris444: ok
[12:58] <xipi> i'll have a look
[12:58] <X-Java> ctrl+alt+f1 has no effect
[12:59] <local> Hello all
[12:59] <Solaris444> just watch out for anything with Realtek Gigabit LAN.  Support for the 8168B is broken in kernels 2.6.21 to 2.6.23
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> X-Java, At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> X-Java, Wait.. did you say livecd worked?
[13:00] <xipi> Solaris444: but 10/100 Lan should be right, shouldn't it?
[13:00] <Solaris444> shure
[13:00] <X-Java> Jack-Sparrow: life CD of debian and dsl worked but live CD of XUbuntu gets black screen after booting
[13:00] <Solaris444> should be fine
[13:00] <xipi> ok
[13:01] <xipi> Solaris444: i'll get back and look for another board
[13:01] <Solaris444> only 10/100 chipset i have ever found that didn't work was this bizarre atheros one.
[13:01] <Solaris444> only ever seen one of those.
[13:01] <Solaris444> in 5 years.
[13:01] <timfromtan1> glxgears behaves oddly reports an increasing frame rate over time starts at 1161 frames in 5.5 seconds 209fps and has increased to 1921 frames in the same time but the gear display is just slwly and jerkily turning
[13:01] <Solaris444> sure thing.
[13:01] <ubuntufreak> I am having problem with sound in my compaq presario v3000 laptop as it stopped working suddenly, help needed
[13:01] <xipi> Solaris444: the machine, i am using right now, has an atheros lan
[13:02] <xipi> Solaris444: it works great
[13:02] <n3cr0> \join #españa
[13:02] <smokeyd> anybody knows how to check the owner of a gnuppg encrypted file?
[13:02] <Solaris444> well that's good to know.  it was some atheros chipset I had never heard of.
[13:02] <smokeyd> *gnupg
[13:02] <odd> ecs is bad and that is a fact?
[13:02] <Solaris444> yes
[13:03] <xipi> Solaris444: anyway, thanks a lot
[13:03] <Solaris444> no problem xipi.
[13:03] <holme93> how can i view the status of my battery on my laptop in ubuntu??
[13:03] <X-Java> can I at least install files and apps on live CD of ubuntu 7.10 (I have burned it on DVD and it's not my personal computer but I like linux)
[13:04] <bod_> has the hardy beta been released yet?
[13:05] <rsk>  bod_ no
[13:05] <rsk> X-Java: if you have enough ram
[13:05] <[chr0n0s]> bod_, alpha5 i think
[13:05] <putti> alpha 6 actually
[13:05] <yowshi> anyone know if there have been any recent updates to wine .9.57? i had to downgrade and was kind of wondering when i can try upgrading that again
[13:05] <yowshi> by recent i mean in the last 7 days
[13:06] <X-Java> rsk: I mean burn apps on live cd so that they will be always on cd
[13:06] <rsk> X-Java: um sure you have to master a new one then
[13:06] <akan01n> hi, how can i reload xorg without restarting everything? i mean with the cmd 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' it works but generates a backup file, i want to ignore this backup file, there is another cmd or a way to not generate this backup file?
[13:06] <rsk> X-Java: afaik there are instructions on the gentoo wiki
[13:06] <X-Java> rsk: can I do it on windows?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> akan01n, press ctrl+alt+backspace
[13:07] <rsk> X-Java: probably, but it will be a mess
[13:07] <Lamego> akan01n, the backup file has no influence on your new configuration
[13:07] <yowshi> action i think he means when his xserver fucks up like mine does on occasion and i have to reset and then reinstall my drivers
[13:08] <yowshi> stupid nvidia graphics card
[13:08] <akan01n> Lamego: i know, but im trying to find a hack for my touchscreen, rotating the screen, so everytime i rotate im going to generate a backup, end of the year i'll have 10milions of backup files.. hehehe
[13:08] <yowshi> just go in sudo and delete them
[13:08] <Ein36> hi
[13:08] <Ein36> I have a problem
[13:09] <yowshi> whats the problem
[13:09] <alexab> hi
[13:09] <X-Java> rsk: and can I install ubuntu and windows on same hd?
[13:09] <Lamego> akan01n, you can delete them at the end of the day :)
[13:10] <yowshi> java you need to make 2 partitions to do that
[13:10] <Aw0L> is there a way to disable the user password prompt (for things that require root privileges)?
[13:10] <Ein36> before I was having Ubuntu and Windows Vista
[13:10] <akan01n> yowshi: yeah, but every backup is created with timestap at the end, xorg.conf.200803173872873
[13:10] <rsk> yes
[13:10] <yowshi> so thats what those numbers are
[13:10] <rsk> X-Java: install windows first then ubuntu and then you can dualboot
[13:10] <yowshi> you can still just delete em akan
[13:11] <Ein36> and I want to install windows XP... but after I install it my ubuntu and vista is gone and now I have only XP
[13:11] <akan01n> yowshi: auto? i dont want to delete them manually, i dont know how to do it
[13:11] <Solaris444> yup Ein36
[13:11] <Ein36> is there way to get back my ubuntu and vista?
[13:11] <Solaris444> that is exactly what should have happened
[13:11] <ReL1K> don't suppose its possible to update from 32 bit gutsy to 64 bit gutsy without completely reinstalling?
[13:11] <Solaris444> nope
[13:11] <baudthief> Anyone know of a simple/secure web proxy I can run on a shell account temporarily? Need to buy something from a site not accessible here
[13:11] <yowshi> i would use sudo pcmanfm
[13:11] <X-Java> rsk: and is it possible to create a linux partition instde windows partition so that it won't be bigger than 5 gb?
[13:11] <putti> nope Rel1k
[13:11] <Solaris444> XP overwrites the MBR with NTLDR
[13:11] <yowshi> then just use pcman gui and do it that way
[13:11] <Lamego> ReL1K, it's not
[13:11] <legend2440> timfromtan1: this article mentions toshset but don't know if that helps video problems http://org.against.org/ubuntu-on-tecra-m1/
[13:11] <Solaris444> doesn't ask permission.
[13:12] <rsk> sure X-Java
[13:12] <ReL1K> hehe k
[13:12] <X-Java> and how?
[13:12] <timfromtan1> thanks legend
[13:12] <ReL1K> anyone got 64 bit gutsy running? run into any issues vs 32 bit?
[13:12] <rsk> X-Java: use a partition program. :)
[13:12] <legend2440> timfromtan1: yw good luck
[13:12] <X-Java> which?
[13:12] <jobanjo> hi
[13:12] <rsk> X-Java: one of your liking
[13:12] <Ein36> is there way to get back my ubuntu and vista?
[13:12] <X-Java> I mean create a virtual hd
[13:13] <rsk> virtual hd?
[13:13] <putti> rel1k i just switched from 32 to 64bit. Only problem is java but I hardly use that anyway
[13:13] <yowshi> why would you want vista?
[13:13] <ReL1K> putti, can't get java working on it?
[13:13] <Lamego> ReL1K, I have no issues
[13:13] <ReL1K> or its flaky?
[13:13] <bod_> rsk, [chr0n0s],.,.sorry was miles away,. cheers,. i read something online that said "With the hardy beta release this week...." but it had no date stamp,.,. im gonna inquire as to the stableness in +1
[13:14] <wookienz> i have a new hdd i want to install ubuntu on from the live cd. the automatic proces is failing to create the partitions on the drive. is there any terminal commands i can use to force it to partition or clear whast on it presently...(an old xbox hdd)
[13:14] <tekstacy> Anyone know what to use on windows to get into a sshfs server?
[13:14] <putti> so far I have not been able to get it to work. But I'm using hardy. I have not investigated much though. There might be a fix
[13:14] <jobanjo> hi i have a question; i have a dell laptop with a docking station, but don't seem to get both screens working (and the sound neither)
[13:14] <Lamego> tekstacy, you mean an ssh server mounted as a fs on windows ?
[13:14] <Jupp> tekstacy, last I checked sshfs is not supported under winddows
[13:14] <X-Java> rsk: can I install ubuntu in an specific folder?
[13:15] <tekstacy> Yeah, that's what I mean.
[13:15] <laura85> hi ^^ I've got a thinkpad and would like to know if there's a linux version of ThinkVantage (e.g. for BIOS updates), or what's the alternative?
[13:15] <X-Java> I don't want to format hd
[13:15] <tekstacy> I need a way to do something like encrypted ftp that will work on Win and linux
[13:15] <rsk> X-Java: with wubi i think you can
[13:15] <X-Java> wubi?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> jobanjo, what dell do you have?
[13:16] <Jupp> tekstacy, do you only need to transfer files?
[13:16] <Daisuke_Ido> again, wubi: the worst idea since greedo shooting first
[13:16] <Solaris444> Ein36: I already answered.  The answer is no.
[13:17] <Solaris444> You overwrote the master boot record.
[13:17] <tekstacy> Jupp, yeah.
[13:17] <jobanjo> latitude D610
[13:17] <Jupp> tekstacy, try scp, it uses ssh
[13:18] <X-Java> isn't it possible without wubi?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> jobanjo, ok so you cant get vga from the dock
[13:18] <tekstacy> Jupp, I built a "home media server". I kicks a**, but my win-tarded friends can't access it.   :)
[13:18] <tekstacy> Thanks, I'll check out scp
[13:18] <Jupp> tekstacy, so a samba share
[13:18] <jobanjo> when i boot docked, it gives a blank screen for a long time, then starts in low graphics mode
[13:19] <Daisuke_Ido> X-Java, 8.04 will officially support wubi, a completely pointless method of installing linux to a hard disk image file contained within your windows drive that virtually guarantees that the end user will never make the switch to linux. (just my thoughts on it)
[13:19] <ReL1K> Lamego: is it a pain to get 32 bit apps to work?
[13:19] <Jupp> tekstacy, *do a samba share
[13:19] <KenSentMe> I have a 2nd hd in my system and i want to have it mounted on startup and be accessible for all users. This is the current line in /etc/fstab: UUID=blabla /media/disk_a ext3 user,exec,auto,rw 0 1. Now the normal user cant mount the volume and also cant write to it. What am i doing wrong?
[13:19] <jobanjo> and then i can "recognise" my laptop lcd, and switch between both with the Fn-f8
[13:19] <x3on> will Hardy Heron be released on April 1st, or just any time any april?
[13:19] <yowshi> wubi wtf?
[13:19] <jobanjo> but the other screen gets the same screenres as my laptoplcd
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> jobanjo, xorg.conf probably has only one display. You may need to play with it
[13:19] <tekstacy> Jupp, damn, should have thought of that.......
[13:20] <rsk> ha 1april, great release date :)
[13:20]  * tekstacy slams more coffee
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> jobanjo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103084
[13:20] <Lamego> ReL1K, well, not really, you can use a 32 bits schroot for them, but there aren't much 32 bit apps that you should need
[13:20] <yowshi> and how does it virtually garauntee that the end user will never switch?
[13:20] <x3on> ?
[13:20] <rsk> ?
[13:21] <tekstacy> Jupp, is that relativly safe to set up to access remotely?
[13:21] <yowshi> one thing i wouldnt mind though is the ability to install while already booted in windows. not into the windows partition but into it's own
[13:21] <rsk> yowshi: cause it's slower than normal ubuntu afaik, gives of a bad vibe
[13:21] <yowshi> so i could kind of install while being online and able to get help
[13:21] <Daisuke_Ido> yowshi, when it's contained entirely within the windows partition, and therefore dependent on windows being there to even exist, what incentive is there for the end user NOT to use windows?
[13:21] <Jupp> tekstacy, I would do SAMBA outside of your LAN
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> yowshi, try virtualbox then. you can run any OS from within wndows with it
[13:21] <Jupp> tekstacy, I *wouldn't do SAMBA outside of your LAN
[13:21] <X-Java> Daisuke_Ido: iI have already linux on xbox and I've just tried ubuntu 7.10 desktop CD and it looks great, but I will get a PC at my birthday and then I can install whatever I want on it (and I want a stable linux and Ububtu seems to be stable)
[13:21] <yowshi> i dont want virtual box. and i already have ubuntu here being used heh
[13:22] <yowshi> no not virtual box a full and actual install
[13:22] <Jafet> I have installed Ubuntu on an external disk and configured it to swap to a partition on the internal disk. However, when memory usage goes up, it doesn't seem to do that, but instead freezes up and initiates a flurry of activity on the external disk until I pull the plug.
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> yowshi, so what is your issue?
[13:22] <yowshi> just i had problems when i was trying to install ubuntu in the first place
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> yowshi, thats very common
[13:22] <yowshi> so it would have been nice if i could have installed while booted into windows
[13:22] <Jafet> So, should I expect Ubuntu to be able to swap to a partition on a different disk?
[13:22] <yowshi> that way help would have been easy to access
[13:23] <Daisuke_Ido> Jafet, of course, wherever you set the swap to be
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> yowshi, so you mean install to a different partition from within windows?
[13:23] <yowshi> yes
[13:23] <x3on> I dont understand what you said rsk :)
[13:23] <Jafet> yowshi, you can run the install disk in a virtualizer and grant it access to the partition, no?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> yowshi, you could suggest it to the ubuntu team and it might get implemented.
[13:23] <yowshi> i have no idea nor did i back then how to do that
[13:23] <Jupp> I have an external usb hd (ext3) and I want it to always mount to the same location (if I let the system pick the name then it will always change depending on how many other hds I have at the time). Is the only way out to edit my fstab and add an entry for that specific UUID?
[13:24] <ak5> um, hello, I am really having trouble with compiz-fusion. I actually installed the latest fglrx drivers and I get all the nice effects I want... until I open firefox
[13:24] <Jafet> yowshi, but you need a virtualizer. Qemu might work but I'm not sure. VMWare would definitely work.
[13:24] <ak5> any ideas?
[13:24] <Jafet> Daisuke_Ido, well it doesn't seem to be doing that, is it...
[13:24] <yowshi> but if you could install while from inside windows to a blank hdd it would help switching over
[13:24] <Jafet> yowshi, the problem is, I suspect, that none of the Ubuntu developers want to code for Windows...
[13:24] <ak5> yowshi: you can, it would just suck setting up
[13:24] <yowshi> i knowe
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> yowshi, get it suggested
[13:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Jafet, if you use the guided or resize method, no, it creates swap on the same partition
[13:25] <X-Java> will wubi install Ubuntu from cd or internet?
[13:25] <yowshi> ak5 you can but to do it you need to know enough that you wouldnt NEED to have easy access to help
[13:25] <Daisuke_Ido> you'll have to do manual
[13:25] <ak5> yowshi: exactly
[13:25] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> Hello Guys..ive been reading and i realize that Feisty its better for HP laptops/notebooks than Gutsy...right?
[13:25] <yowshi> where do i make a suggestion
[13:25] <Jafet> Daisuke_Ido, hmm, I'll check /etc/fstab to see if the correct partitions are specified.
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> yowshi, I suggested an install to usb stick as an install option
[13:25] <yowshi> on what part of the site
[13:25] <ak5> yowshi: but the ubuntu install cd is ridiculously easy these days
[13:26] <yowshi> AK5 it aint trust me
[13:26] <ak5> yowshi: what do you mean?
[13:26] <yowshi> last year when i installed i couldnt use the default live cd
[13:26] <yowshi> i had to install from the secondary
[13:26] <ak5> yowshi:  get the alternative text based cd
[13:26] <tekstacy> yowshi, what kind of box are you putting it on?
[13:26] <yowshi> and it isnt as easy
[13:26] <yowshi> the text based cd isnt as easy to use
[13:26] <KenSentMe> I have a 2nd hd in my system and i want to have it mounted on startup and be accessible for all users. This is the current line in /etc/fstab: UUID=blabla /media/disk_a ext3 user,exec,auto,rw 0 1. Now the normal user cant mount the volume and also cant write to it. What am i doing wrong?
[13:26] <ak5> yowshi: it isn't as *pretty*
[13:26] <yowshi> it aint as easy either i think
[13:26] <ak5> it is still incredibly simple
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> yowshi, http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[13:27] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> The alternate cd can be used, using the normal live cd, writing f6 and then only.ubiquity
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> yowshi, try there
[13:27] <yowshi> the live cd worked but always froze when it started formatting
[13:27] <ak5> the makers of that did an awesome job imo
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> KenSentMe, is it formatted ext3?
[13:27] <Jafet> Daisuke_Ido, hah. /etc/fstab specifies the correct UUID but it's not detected somehow.
[13:27] <KenSentMe> ActionParsnip, i think it is
[13:27] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> yowshi: the normal ubuntu live cd can be used as a alternate cd by writing only.ubiquity on the command live F6
[13:27] <yowshi> so i actually tried 5 times when i first installed
[13:27] <Daisuke_Ido> Jafet, that could be a problem then...
[13:28] <ak5> anyone had trouble with compiz effects and firefox before?
[13:28] <yowshi> yeah well with the text based it took me 5 tries to get an install that worked
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> KenSentMe, I'd check with sudo fdisk -l
[13:28] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> yowshi: that way wont freeze!
[13:28] <KenSentMe> ActionParsnip, it is
[13:28] <Daisuke_Ido> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR, completely useless info if the livecd won't even get that far.
[13:28] <Jafet> Daisuke_Ido, swap locations are completely determined at boot time, right?
[13:28] <Daisuke_Ido> Jafet, i don't know
[13:28] <ak5> yowshi: are you very new to linux?
[13:28] <yowshi> theres just options and shit in the install that i had never heard of as a first time linux user
[13:28] <Jafet> Bleh, I'll just change this and reboot.
[13:29] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> Daisuke_Ido: woot do u mean by wont even get that far?
[13:29]  * Jafet needs a memory upgrade soon
[13:29] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm still a relative newbie (started with edgy)
[13:29] <ak5> yowshi: sry, didn't occur to me that that is a possiblility :/
[13:29] <yowshi> LOL
[13:29] <yowshi> LMAO
[13:29] <yowshi> i think thats the problem
[13:30] <yowshi> these sorts of issues dont really occur to the dev team either
[13:30] <Daisuke_Ido> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR, a lot of people that have problems with the livecd can't get it to go that far (to where they can actually enter boot options)
[13:30] <tekstacy> Jafet, i just put 4gb in this lappy.   :)   I reccomend the upgrade
[13:30] <KenSentMe> ActionParsnip, it is ext3 and root can create folders etc
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> KenSentMe, i'd google fstab to check you have the right stuff. Can you also give a pastebin of your /etc/fstab
[13:30] <ak5> yowshi: I just helped someone install ubuntu the other day, he said the only thing confusing was the partitioning if you want to keep your windows
[13:30] <Jafet> tekstacy, heh, this Vaio supports only 2 and I only have a quarter of that.
[13:30] <KenSentMe> ActionParsnip, i pasted the line in my question already
[13:30]  * tekstacy cringes
[13:31] <yowshi> i was trying to setup a raid setup and stuff and i had never done a raid before or anything otgher then a basic press here to install windows before
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> KenSentMe, do the whole thing dude
[13:31] <yowshi> so EVERYTHING was like new and i didnt know jack from crap
[13:31] <Jafet> tekstacy, but all my apps except Firefox only use 640K of memory!
[13:31] <ak5> yowshi: well, I started linux with gentoo
[13:31] <ak5> yowshi: not pretty either
[13:31] <yowshi> i truied gentoo first
[13:31] <Jafet> ak5, good for you!
[13:31] <yowshi> it couldnt get online
[13:32] <yowshi> it took me 6 tries to get a working raided gentoo 64 instakll
[13:32] <KenSentMe> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59919/
[13:32] <ak5> yowshi: the thing is, as a first time user, I wouldn't recommend going for all the bells and whistles
[13:32] <XATRIX> hi...did anyone configure Atheros AR5006EG wireless card ?
[13:32] <yowshi> yeah well i wanted what i wanted
[13:32] <yowshi> which was an optimal setup for the harddrives i had
[13:32] <Jafet> Gentoo sounds like religion to me. Suffer very hard to install to obtain dubious benefits later.
[13:32] <yowshi> well have
[13:32] <ak5> yowshi: so advanced hardware stuff aside, the ubuntu installer is very nice
[13:32] <tekstacy> Jafet, honestly, the only time I ever used all four was when I watched a movie while running XP, and Vista AND Plan9 in virtual box and copying files
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> KenSentMe, which mount point is the drive using?
[13:33] <yowshi> see if i went with the basic i would have 2 unused hard drives right now imnstead of 1
[13:33] <yowshi> and i didnt want to waste 250 gigs
[13:33] <KenSentMe> ActionParsnip, /media/disk_a
[13:33] <ak5> Jafet: it's not really suffering, I find an ubuntu is easily and quickly installed, but will get slower over time, where as gentoo won't
[13:33] <ak5> both have advantages
[13:34] <ak5> yowshi: what raid?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> KenSentMe, there is no instance of "_a" in that pastebin
[13:34] <yowshi> i wanted let me think no raid on the boot and raid 1 on the rest
[13:35] <KenSentMe> ActionParsnip, line 13
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> KenSentMe, is it this UUID=47BD-4A90	/media/disk_a_win
[13:35] <yowshi> i wound up not using raid in the end :(
[13:35] <ak5> yowshi: ah, well, is the boot a seperate harddive or just a partition?
[13:35] <KenSentMe> ActionParsnip, no, the other one
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> KenSentMe, yeah, notepad knows nothig :S
[13:35] <yowshi> seperate partition
[13:35] <ak5> yowshi: that makes it difficult XD
[13:35] <yowshi> i have boot log usr and home partitions
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> KenSentMe, got
[13:35] <yowshi> oh and swap
[13:36] <ak5> yowshi: oooohh software raid?
[13:36] <yowshi> yeah sk5
[13:36] <yowshi> ak5
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> KenSentMe, why are you using UUIDs?
[13:36] <ak5> yowshi: hehe, I was thinking: is this guy stupid?
[13:36] <ak5> yowshi: yeah, that's hard to setup
[13:37] <yowshi> i started with my hardware in a hardware raid
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> use /dev/sdb1 or whatever it is. You could use some spacing in there
[13:37] <yowshi> which i had asked for when i built this computer
[13:37] <KenSentMe> ActionParsnip, because it's a swappable bay, and i want to use a different mountpoint if there is another disk in the bay. And uuid are ubuntu default
[13:37] <yowshi> but that seemed to be interfereing with telling my installs to use a raid
[13:37] <yowshi> only i didnt know it
[13:37] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> Daisuke_Ido: well mate..if some1 can just boot the cd and enter by normal boot and get froozed..the only-ubiquity is the best solution cuz everything will be commando line.. dont ya think?
[13:37] <ak5> mhm
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> KenSentMe, back it up and give /dev/<whatever> a go
[13:37] <marx2k> top o' the mornin'
[13:38] <fiXXXerMet> I keep getting "Bus error" when trying to apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-2.6.22-14-server or dpkg-reconfigure.  This has happened on two different servers with different hardware...  Think the code for dpkg might be broken?
[13:39] <ArthurArchnix> KenSentMe: What are you trying to do?I've taken a look at your fstab
[13:39] <KenSentMe> ArthurArchnix, mount a 2nd harddrive rw accessible for all users
[13:39] <fiXXXerMet> http://pastebin.ca/946122 is a paste of what is happening
[13:39] <Daisuke_Ido> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR, they can't initialize the framebuffer to even GET to that point, what are you not understanding here?
[13:39] <x3on> will Hardy Heron be released on April 1st, or just any time any april?
[13:39] <ArthurArchnix> KenSentMe:  sdb?
[13:40] <Daisuke_Ido> x3on, don't repeat, and ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:40] <dgjones> x3on, probably towards the end of april, i think i've seen 28th april mentioned
[13:40] <KenSentMe> ArthurArchnix, sdb1 right
[13:40] <x3on> Daisuke_Ido, nobody answered
[13:41] <ArthurArchnix> KenSentMe: sdb1 is the first partition on device sdb ... is that the only one you're having trouble with?
[13:41] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> Daisuke_Ido:well dude nevermind..ok
[13:41] <x3on> thanks dgjones
[13:41] <KenSentMe> ArthurArchnix, the partition mounts fine and root can create folders etc. Only normal users cant
[13:41] <Bo^Dick> hi
[13:42] <Bo^Dick> i've mounted my floppy drive
[13:42] <ArthurArchnix> KenSentMe: Well, that's nothing to do with fstab then
[13:42] <Bo^Dick> but how do i make sure the content of /media/floppy0 really gets copied down to the floppy?
[13:42] <ArthurArchnix> KenSentMe: Here's how I'd layout your fstab http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59922/
[13:43] <Bo^Dick> anyone
[13:43] <itsme> hey i am getting the GRUB error what can i do?
[13:43] <szczurek_pl>  /join #ubuntu-ops
[13:43] <KenSentMe> ArthurArchnix, thanks, but i need the uuid. sdb is in a swappable bay and i want another mountpoint if another disk is entered
[13:43] <Daisuke_Ido> "the grub error"
[13:43] <Daisuke_Ido> try being more specific?
[13:43] <Bo^Dick> anyone
[13:43] <itsme> when booting
[13:44] <itsme> i dont know what it is
[13:44]  * Daisuke_Ido facepalms
[13:44] <ArthurArchnix> KenSentMe: Assuming it mounted and ran everything fine, then I'd just chmod the drive. If you decide to use the fstab I provided you may have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the UUID there to /dev/sda4
[13:44] <gilster32> can someone help me with getting rid of this dcopserver errors. i cant run any kde apps.
[13:44] <Daisuke_Ido> there's an error number
[13:44] <rbragg> http://pix.test.at/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=39
[13:44] <itsme> error 22
[13:44] <rbragg> http://www.sound-man.co.uk/linuxaudio/ice1712multi.html
[13:44] <Bo^Dick> how do i make sure the content of /media/floppy0 really gets copied down to the floppy? it is mounted already
[13:44] <sergiu87> :)
[13:44] <kervel> hello, anyone ever tried to use the shared internet connection of a (bluetooth access point) smartphone with linux ? i found tons of howtos doing the opposite, but this, none ..
[13:44] <szczurek_pl> test me
[13:44] <KenSentMe> ArthurArchnix, i chmodded the folder /media/disk_a to 777, but still no luck in creating folders
[13:44] <rbragg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636593
[13:44] <kervel> i find mention of "pand" but it was deprecated in ubuntu and i don't know what replaces it now
[13:45] <yowshi> man i like idea number 19
[13:45] <Daisuke_Ido> itsme, looks like the partition it's looking for isn't there.
[13:45] <ArthurArchnix> KenSentMe: Oh. Ok, finally someone with a legitimate need for UUIDs. Good to know someone out there has benefited from this UUID mess. :)
[13:45] <KenSentMe> ArthurArchnix, hehe
[13:45] <ArthurArchnix> KenSentMe: Have you created a udev rule to recognize the drive and assign it a fixed mount point?
[13:45] <itsme> how can boot on windows?
[13:45] <itsme> while i fix it
[13:45] <KenSentMe> ArthurArchnix, dont think so
[13:46] <Daisuke_Ido> you can't boot to either windows or linux right now?
[13:46] <orkun> still being afraid of os updates(thx to microsoft) - i am thinking whether i should update from gutsy or hardy alpha6 or 3 days later hardy beta to hardy final - or whether i should wait. need to install ubuntu the next days(best would be today) - but with windows i would definitly wait one month for the final release to perform a full install and NEVER would first install win98 and then use xp update. should i be worried the same way with
[13:46] <orkun>  ubuntu?
[13:46] <itsme> that error comes up
[13:46] <fiXXXerMet> I keep getting "Bus
[13:46] <ArthurArchnix> KenSentMe: Fstab alone might not get you there. lemme find you a link to a thread I think is relevant to your interests.
[13:46] <bod_> hey guys, (pre warning: im lagging 15-30 secs so may be a while for a reply) can i use gparted to make a 10gig partition say /hardy/ then install hardy on it?
[13:46] <fiXXXerMet> arghs
[13:46] <itsme> GRUB Loading stage 1.5
[13:46] <itsme> GRUB loading, please wait...
[13:46] <itsme> Error 15
[13:46] <ArthurArchnix> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221
[13:46] <ArthurArchnix> KenSentMe: ^^
[13:46] <KenSentMe> ArthurArchnix, thanks
[13:47] <Daisuke_Ido> that's error 15, not error 22
[13:47] <ccharles`> orkun: the current hardy alphas are, well, alphas. I wouldn't use them if you'
[13:47] <itsme> sry this one
[13:47] <itsme> GRUB Loading stage 1.5
[13:47] <itsme> GRUB loading, please wait...
[13:47] <itsme> Error 22
[13:47] <ccharles`> orkun: re worried about stability. check #ubuntu+1 for hardy stuff.
[13:47] <Polarina> bod_: You can chroot it or use QEMU (Which you wouldn't need a separate partition for).
[13:47] <orkun> ty
[13:47] <Jupp> how do I set a label to a ext3 partition (on an external hd) so that it's automounted to the same location (in /media) all the time?
[13:47] <orkun> im solely worried about stability in 2 months :> not right now :)
[13:48] <Bo^Dick> how do i make sure the content of /media/floppy0 really gets copied down to the floppy? it is mounted already
[13:48] <Bo^Dick> i've got this line is fstab, /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
[13:48] <Bo^Dick> i can read from floppy
[13:48] <Polarina> Bo^Dick: Unmount it, or execute the shell command 'sync'.
[13:48] <bod_> Polarina, could you link me to some relevent information regarding the two plz,.,.;~)
[13:48] <KenSentMe> ArthurArchnix, I found out that if i create folders with root on that partition and chmod those to 777, the user can access those, so i think my problem is solved by that
[13:48] <itsme> Daisuke_Ido do you think it will work if i install ubuntu again?
[13:48] <Daisuke_Ido> itsme, check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[13:49] <ccharles`> orkun: probably once the final is released upgrading will work fine. I usually do a clean reinstall, personally, but I do some funny things with my systems. reinstalling is a way to get back to vanilla ubuntu.
[13:49] <itsme> ok
[13:49] <Daisuke_Ido> if that doesn't work, then a reinstall *may* be in order
[13:49] <Polarina> bod_: QEMU is an CPU emulator. If your CPU supports virtalization, the emulation would run at almost native speed.
[13:49] <itsme> ok thx
[13:49] <orkun> ty ccharles`, thats what i will probably do
[13:50] <loveur> bjr
[13:51] <Bo^Dick> Polarina: that didn't sort it out
[13:51] <ccharles`> orkun: np :-).,
[13:51] <bod_> Polarina, like vbox ??
[13:51] <Lamego> never saw QEMU performing at amost native speed
[13:51] <Polarina> Lamego: Missing kqemu kernel module?
[13:51] <Polarina> bod_: Sort of.
[13:52] <Lamego> Polarina, evern with the kqemu module
[13:52] <ntolo> What is the best  flash program for ubuntu ?
[13:52] <intromas> #ubuntu-fr
[13:52] <Polarina> Lamego: The CPU has to support virtualization to take advantage of it.