[02:32] <david_> anyone have document on how to detect firewire in ubuntu studio 12.10?  I have focusrite saffire pro 40.  I can't see it in Ardour 3.0 or 2.8
[02:32] <holstein> david_: you use jack
[02:32] <holstein> !proaudio
[02:32] <holstein> you open qjackctl.. click on "setup".. choose the firewire driver, and save that, and try hitting "start"
[02:33] <holstein> then, you can move on to testing permission
[02:33]  * holstein uses firewire in ubuntu
[02:33] <holstein> david_: if you have opend ardour without jack running, then you might have jack tring to run in the background
[02:34] <david_> in qjackctl "setup" I don't see my saffire pro 40 in "input device"
[02:35] <holstein> david_: you wont
[02:35] <holstein> david_: you select the firewire driver
[02:36] <david_> oh I see..
[02:36] <david_> keep everything else default?
[02:36] <holstein> david_: for now
[02:37] <david_> ahhh I see firewire devices now!!!  Thank you!!!
[02:38] <holstein> david_: cheers!
[02:38] <david_> from what I have read this will conflict with pulseaudio
[02:38] <holstein> check #opensourcemusicians too if its slow here and you need help
[02:38] <holstein> david_: this? jack?
[02:38] <holstein> david_: there is a pulse to jack module which routes pulse through jack
[02:38] <holstein> if you want that.. thats one of the first things i disable
[02:39] <holstein> but, no.. pluse shouldnt conflict
[02:39] <david_> ok...
[03:01] <david_> how about play back in ardour, through saffire pro 40, mon 1, I can't hear anything.  It seemed to be connected already in jack.
[03:02] <holstein> seemed?
[03:02] <holstein> double check
[03:02] <holstein> sometime i just connect everything to everything and test
[03:02] <holstein> make sure the unit is setup properly
[03:03] <holstein> make sure you have headphones or monitors that work, and if there is a "playback/live" knob, that it is in the middle
[03:04] <david_> headphone is new.  Only have headphone connected.
[03:06] <holstein> david_: remove ardour from the equation
[03:06] <holstein> can you play *anything* that you know works with something you know how to use?
[03:09] <david_> I was just now to play youtube through saffire pro monitor 1.  I can hear just fine.
[03:10] <david_> through head phone 1 I mean.
[03:10] <holstein> cool
[03:10] <holstein> so, double check a few things with ardour
[03:10] <holstein> if you have a track armed, it wont play
[03:10] <holstein> if you hear *antying*, then you *can* hear audio from ardour
[03:11] <holstein> double chekc the routing
[03:11] <holstein> check*
[03:44] <david_> I was able to hear now but through line 8 and 9.  Not sure how headphone 1 and 2 is tied to line 8 and 9
[04:11] <david_> Holstein - Thanks for all the help!
[04:51] <david_> how do you turn on sound for metronome in ardour 3?   I tried "enable/disable audio click" button but still no sound
[07:31] <afflicto> Hello everyone. I'm trying to launch ardour but nothing happens when I'm about to "open project". I believe it has something to do with jack. please help!
[10:33] <chesco> bien le bonjour a tous !
[10:33] <smartboyhw> Hello
[10:34] <chesco> je découvre et cherche des possibilités avec ubuntustudio sur un eeepc
[10:35] <chesco> un asus eeepc 1225b
[10:36] <smartboyhw> Grrrr I don't know French
[10:36] <smartboyhw> Where's ttoine!?!!/
[10:36] <chesco> oh sorry i didnt c I was on a international chat :)
[10:36] <chesco> sorry my eng is not very good blabla ;)
[10:37] <smartboyhw> :)
[10:37] <chesco> well, im just asking myself on possibilities to configure a rt kernel on my ubuntustudio
[10:38] <chesco> Im running on 64bit AMD ATI asus eeepc machine
[10:38] <smartboyhw> chesco, build it yourself?
[10:39] <chesco> I though about that, and I built many many kernel "'once apon a time" ^^
[10:39] <chesco> do u think its possible with a such computer ? reliable ?
[10:39] <smartboyhw> chesco, well we don't have an -rt kernel maintained now
[10:40] <smartboyhw> chesco, possible. I'm in a notebook and I compile -rt kernels (just for fun)
[10:40] <smartboyhw> We are examining the possibilities of maintaining (not making it as default) the -rt kernel again
[10:41] <chesco> that could be easier for unlucky computer man :]
[10:45] <chesco> well, have to compile, have fun all, I be back ;)
[18:57] <chesco> hey
[18:58] <chesco> Im asking myself on which kernel version I may use to compile it in realtime, can i download the latest 3.8.4 kernel version ?
[18:59] <chesco> sorry sentence is broken, Im asking myslf concern the kernel version I can download on kernel.org to compile RT
[18:59] <chesco> im on ubuntu studio and it runs 3.5 lowlatency kernel atm
[19:00] <len-1304> There is a 3.8.* available with the rt patch
[19:02] <chesco> where can i found it ?
[19:02] <chesco> kernel.org?
[19:02] <len-1304> There was an announcement in the LAU list, but I can't find it... it was not put in the subject of the message it was in :P
[19:03] <zequence> chesco: https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/
[19:03] <len-1304> Have you looked at https://www.rtai.org/ ?
[19:04] <chesco> well, I will check, I was sure I didnt explore all the possibilities... sorry
[19:04] <len-1304> Sorry?, good question anyway.
[19:05] <len-1304> I have not had any problem downloading and running a kernel from kernel.org
[19:06] <len-1304> I don't know about rtai, haven't tried that. Be aware that non-free video support may be an issue.
[19:08] <chesco> RTAI is a king of RT patch for linux kernel
[19:08] <chesco> no?
[19:08] <chesco> ^^
[19:08] <chesco> im not very skilled, I need to rtfm i think
[19:08] <len-1304> I am not so sure... looking at the site.
[19:08] <zequence> RTAI is not really related to the realtime patch
[19:09] <zequence> chesco: The link I gave you has all the patches that are available. You can only build them for the kernels they are made for
[19:09] <len-1304> Ya it uses a kerenl patch but also an application interface.
[19:10] <chesco> ho ok, but i think there is already app on the distro I use, thanks and bookmarked ;)
[19:11] <len-1304> If you are using ubuntu as a base the kernel.org is what we are based on.
[19:11] <chesco> yo :)
[19:12] <zequence> The Ubuntu kernel is not the same as the vanilla kernel. It has some Ubuntu specific patches
[19:12] <zequence> Using the vanilla kernel is no problem though
[19:12] <zequence> There might be problems with building graphic drivers, etc
[19:13] <zequence> But, it will run
[19:14] <zequence> If you want a Ubuntu -rt kernel, you will need to apply the patch to the Ubuntu source, which is not recommended, if you don't know what you are doing
[19:15] <zequence> Or, at least you will probably have problems applying it, and building it
[19:16] <zequence> The Ubuntu kernel sources are here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git
[19:16] <chesco> hum, well im on ubuntu studio, do i need to go there ?
[19:17] <zequence> Ubuntu Studio is Ubuntu, but as I said, you can run either kernel
[19:18] <zequence> Better you build the vanilla kernel anyway. Less problems
[19:21] <chesco> let's go :) thanks for tips. I'll return my experiences asap.
[19:26] <chesco> is there any difference between "patches-3.8.4-rt2.tar.bz2" & "patch-3.8.4-rt2.patch.bz2" files ?
[19:27] <chesco> no it's "patches-3.8.4-rt2.tar.bz2" and "patches-3.8.4-rt2.tar.bz2" ( mistake )
[19:28] <chesco> omfg lol... anyway ;)