[14:23] <_chroma> i have to run mount -a
[14:23] <_chroma> to mount it
[14:23] <_chroma> or mount /home
[14:24] <Akuli> _chroma: What's the output of "cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999" ?
[14:26] <_chroma>  http://termbin.com/00z9
[14:26] <_chroma> @ Akuli
[14:26] <Akuli> _chroma: Your home partition is listed there just fine
[14:27] <Akuli> _chroma: So i don't know what could be wrong
[14:27] <_chroma> Akuli, theres definitely a disk error
[14:28] <calebmillerkb3> For .ssh/authorized_keys, are the commands inside the command="" block executed when the authorized user makes an ssh connection, or is it just a list of commands that the user can execute from ssh user@host 'command'?
[14:28] <_chroma> Akuli, just wondering if i can run e2fsck from the command line before my system boots
[14:28] <Akuli> Do you mean that your hard drive is failing?
[14:28] <Akuli> _chroma: You can boot very minimally if you want
[14:28] <Akuli> Nothing but kernel and bash.
[14:28] <_chroma> Akuli, it does that on its own
[14:28] <_chroma> it doesnt boot past that
[14:28] <_chroma> then i have to mount /home manually
[14:28] <_chroma> and run systemctl default
[14:28] <Akuli> Sounds like your hard drive is failing :(
[14:29] <_chroma> yeah
[14:29] <_chroma> so the question is
[14:29] <_chroma> can i run e2fsck from the root shell
[14:29] <sopparus> hello
[14:29] <k1l> _chroma: try a "sudo touch /forcefsck " and reboot
[14:29] <_chroma> is e2fsck the same as fsck?
[14:29] <calebmillerkb3> For .ssh/authorized_keys, are the commands inside the command="" block executed when the authorized user makes an ssh connection, or is it just a list of commands that the user can execute from ssh user@host 'command'?
[14:29] <sopparus> i just upgraded to 16.04 and all my drives except boot disk has only sda sdb etc, I see no sda5 for example
[14:30] <_chroma> k1l, creating a blank file named forcefsck causes it to force system check?
[14:30] <sopparus> if i try to mount using fstab I get mount: can't find UUID=76eef63d-5aa6-4bbb-b20e-f7dc5d94f204
[14:31] <k1l> _chroma: that will fsck all partitions. which is a good idea in your case
[14:31] <_chroma> k1l, thats a very cool feature that i never knew about
[14:31] <_chroma> k1l, thanks for the info
[14:31] <calebmillerkb3> nevermind, managed to find the answer on my own
[14:32] <_chroma> k1l, are e2fsck and fsck the same?
[14:33] <k1l> _chroma: yes
[14:34] <k1l> _chroma: in reality fsck is just the wrapper for all the detailed fsck.* family for every Filesystem used
[15:02] <tasso> hi
[15:07] <Kallis> hi there, looking at moving my windows server over to a linux server and am just going about setting up samba with acl, was just wondering if there was an easy way for me to copy all current user acl's that are in place on the windows server over to the new samba linux box please or do i need to redo all acl for all users on all directories
[15:08] <Guest31111> does anyone know how to I solve (a^b) mod c using openssl command ?
[15:11] <Artick> salut ya des francais ?
[15:19] <ante_> hi
[15:25] <primula> hi
[15:29] <Zippy001> hello
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> hi
[15:32] <bizancio> Hi. I upgraded (X)ubuntu from 14.10 to 15.04. Because my connection was slow, I removed some 3rd party repositories (node, docker, etc. ) when upgrading. It's ok to enable them now and run apt-get update && apt-upgrade? Or that's a bad idea for some reason?
[15:32] <bizancio> *I unthecked them _before_ upgrading the SO
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> bizancio  14.10 and 15.04 are both dead
[15:33] <bizancio> MonkeyDust: yeah I want to migrate now to 15.10
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> bizancio  install 14.14.04 or 15.10 then ask again
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> typo*
[15:33] <bizancio> MonkeyDust: ok :P
[15:34] <bizancio> MonkeyDust: I just wanted to know if doing that was dangerous for some reason or not (disabling 3rd party repositories before upgrading and then activating them once upgraded)
[15:34] <lmtd> i am considering buying this laptop: Lenovo E31-70 13.3" HD (80KX015TMX) url: https://www.komplett.no/product/866203/pc-nettbrett/baerbar-pc/ultraportable/lenovo-e31-70-133-hd# - tried searching google for the laptop name and ubuntu, but came up pretty much empty. how can i figure out if ubuntu will install without problems on it?
[15:34] <bizancio> MonkeyDust: I mean, if there's a good reason for NOT doing that I'd want to know
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> bizancio  do you mean ppa's ?
[15:36] <lmtd> i did find some articles on it, but not on ubuntu.com when browsing vendors.
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> !hardware | lmtd start here
[15:37] <bizancio> MonkeyDust: yeah, for example, I have a ppa for Chrome, other for node, other for docker. i disabled all before upgrading. I'm planning to enable them once I migrate to 15.10 and upgrade the packages (if necessary)
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> bizancio  yes, disable ppa's
[15:40] <sruli> fresh install ubuntu 14.04 i am having trouble with bluetooth headset, within 20 seconds of connecting it disconnects, reconnecting sometimes requires a reboot and if not will still disconnect every 30-60 seconds
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> sruli  install blueman
[15:41] <bizancio> MonkeyDust: ok, thanks!
[15:42] <sruli> MonkeyDust: is that a backend or front end tool
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> sruli  it means bluetooth manager, a nice gui, helped others
[15:43] <sruli> do i need to remove bluez?
[15:43] <lmtd> MonkeyDust: thanks! i checked the link, but i can't find the laptop in the database. both ubuntufriendly and hardware support wiki seems to have been discontinued.
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> sruli  no
[15:46] <lmtd> hardware support wiki was phased out for ubuntufriendly, and then ubuntufriendly was discontinued. :/ is there another option to check if a new laptop is compatible with ubuntu?
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> lmtd  any reason why you think it isnt?
[15:48] <lmtd> MonkeyDust: cause i installed ubuntu on a lenovo laptop a few years, and i had problems with sound, touchpad, wifi, and it was a real hassle. i just want to make sure that close to everything works out if i buy it and install ubuntu.
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> lmtd  yes, ubuntu has improved over the years
[15:49] <DeM0nFiRe> Hello, my touchpad stopped working on my laptop (but it still works in windows and the bios so the hardware seems fine). Stuff I've seen online says to check if its enabled in conf /org/gnome/settings-daemon/peripherals/touchpad but I dont have any touchpad entries at all there. Did those move or something?
[15:50] <DeM0nFiRe> in peripherals I have only keyboard and mouse
[15:50] <sruli> MonkeyDust: i get "device added successfully, but failed to connect"
[15:51] <lmtd> MonkeyDust: so i just have to give it a shot and hope? :/ i would buy a pre-installed ubuntu laptop if i could find a low budget one with a norwegian keyboard, but since there seems to be none, i guess i got to just attempt this.
[15:56] <fox_> whatsup yo
[15:56] <Deathfacejackal> anyone awake yet
[15:56] <Deathfacejackal> http://www.cyberciti.biz/open-source/best-terminal-applications-for-linux-unix-macosx/
[15:57] <Deathfacejackal> there were like 2 i didnt know about lol
[15:57] <Deathfacejackal> test
[15:58] <bazhang> Deathfacejackal, good to take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:00] <pulse00> hi all. i have an ubuntu 14.04 server installed on a virtual server provided by hosteurope. the virtual server has 16GB of memory (guaranteed). whenever the overall memory usage of the system reaches 4GB, applications trying to allocate more than 4gb will run out of memory.
[16:00] <pulse00> it's an x64 system
[16:01] <DeM0nFiRe> Eh I think I will just try reinstalling. I switched wlan cards and the only problem after that was I was getting a "program problem detected" box. removed /var/crash/* and sometime after that is when I had the problem
[16:01] <pulse00> in one case it's a java app (also 64bit java version installed), and in another case it's a ruby app - as far as i can tell also 64 bit ruby)
[16:02] <pulse00> has anyone an idea why no application can allocate more than 4GB of ram although everything is 64 bit?
[16:04] <est31> pulse00, it *may* be a limitation of the java/ruby runtimes, i am not sure. At least I know of luajit that has precisely this problem as well: it can't allocate more than a certain limit of RAM
[16:04] <est31> thats done because garbage collection
[16:10] <_chroma> k1l thanks for your help ill try your suggestion and check back later
[16:25] <fenix_peregrino> hey guys has already somebody upgraded to 16.04?
[16:25] <davido_> #ubuntu+1 for 16.04
[16:25] <TimSchumi> Is 16.04 out?
[16:26] <Akuli> Problems with reading /topic?
[16:26] <k1l_> TimSchumi: no
[16:26] <Akuli> It's the thing you see when you join here.
[16:26] <fenix_peregrino> Sorry for my ignorance, how can I access the chante ubuntu+1?
[16:26] <Akuli> /join #ubuntu+1
[16:26] <Akuli> Type that here.
[16:26] <fenix_peregrino> Akuli thanks
[16:30] <WoodyPC> hey yall, What can I type in terminal other than "lspci" to be able to see info on my video device?
[16:31] <k1l_> WoodyPC: what info do you need?
[16:34] <cowboydodo> hi guys, trying to setup an ldap authentication having a a posixAccount in "cn=Test Appsiting,ou=benutzer,dc=example,dc=com"
[16:34] <cowboydodo>  and its gid is "appsiting", which in turn is "cn=appsiting,ou=gruppen,dc=example,dc=com" . My apache configurtation is: https://www.refheap.com/117749 but when trying to login with "testappsiting" I get a "invalid credentials, why is that?"
[16:34] <bo> ping
[16:34] <nuno_nunes> hi good afertemoon
[16:35] <WoodyPC> I keep getting an error at startup. I try to print screen, but system is nonresponsive until error goes away.  I set my display at 1920x1080 and upon reboot, some kind of error showing different resolutions comes onto screen and then resets my screen to 1280x720.
[16:35] <bo> quit
[16:36] <ubuntukali497> hello I am having problems with installing the virtualbox I can install everything but the dkms is there update missing packages command in kernal/
[16:36] <nuno_nunes> :)
[16:39] <wwwi> hello
[16:39] <EriC^^> hi
[16:39] <ubuntukali497> anyone know how to get the virtualbox working?
[16:39] <wwwi> if you add a second had, will it be seen as another drive, or space will be added to your main drive?
[16:40] <timursergeevich> привет
[16:40] <wwwi> hdd
[16:40] <scalper> hey
[16:40] <EriC^^> ubuntukali497: working how?
[16:40] <k1l_> ubuntukali497: what ubuntu exactly? what issue exactly?
[16:40] <EriC^^> wwwi: it'll be seen as another drive
[16:40] <k1l_> !ru | timursergeevich
[16:40] <est31> wwwi, it will be a separate drive
[16:40] <est31> wwwi, but if you start with the hdd every time, you can put it to any directory you want
[16:41] <timursergeevich> im not can write to ubuntu-ru
[16:41] <wwwi> but can I configure something and Ubuntu will see both drives as one?
[16:41] <scalper> i wanna install ubuntu but i want to install it on usb stick, if i run the installation from another usb stick to install it on usb stick b, does it also copy any file to my hdd? let's say if i set my hdd not to boot from
[16:41] <wwwi> est31 ok
[16:41] <Akuli> wwwi: You can't mount two drives on the same location. But you can mount different things in different locations under /
[16:41] <scalper> i can choose the bootorder but i can't deactivate this hdd
[16:41] <scalper> so that's why i'm confusing a little bit about it
[16:41] <timursergeevich> * #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel
[16:41] <nuno_nunes> timursergeevich is write #ubuntu-ru
[16:41] <nuno_nunes> :p
[16:42] <wwwi> but can I install apps to the new directory?
[16:42] <k1l_> timursergeevich: read the channel topic there.
[16:42] <wwwi> and services?
[16:42] <timursergeevich> im not good engleesh
[16:42] <EriC^^> wwwi: no, unless you use it as /usr
[16:42] <EriC^^> or manually compile them there
[16:42] <EriC^^> (on the second drive)
[16:42] <k1l_> timursergeevich: read the topic for the #ubuntu-ru channel rules and if you need to register first
[16:42] <est31> or use RAID
[16:42] <ntruf> can I install ubuntu and bootloader without damaging my current windows installation?
[16:43] <wwwi> I can make new hdd point to /usr?
[16:43] <est31> yes
 is a testing is work
[16:43] <nuno_nunes> :p
[16:43] <timursergeevich> when me register?
[16:43] <est31> wwwi, its done in fstab
[16:43] <wwwi> without deleting the old data at usr?
[16:43] <k1l_> !register | timursergeevich
[16:43] <ubuntukali497> kl1_ its actually kali 2.2 i tryed to get virtualbox 4.2.2 but it said i needed 4.3.28 since the previous dkms i installed was that I downgraded to python2.7 since it said that also but the headers and virtualbox-qt only install when i type apt-get install virtualbox and it erases the virtualbox 4.3.28 which i need am i missing a step?
[16:43] <k1l_> nuno_nunes: stop confusing the user
[16:43] <EriC^^> wwwi: you can copy the current data in /usr to the new hdd (a partition in it), and then have that mount under /usr
[16:43] <nuno_nunes> lol
[16:43] <k1l_> ubuntukali497: please ask the kali support what could be  wrong on their system
[16:44] <wwwi> so, it's more of a hack?
[16:44] <WoodyPC> k1l_: I keep getting an error at startup. I try to print screen, but system is nonresponsive until error goes away.  I set my display at 1920x1080 and upon reboot, some kind of error showing different resolutions comes onto screen and then resets my screen to 1280x720. Does this error mean that my tv can't handle the higher resolution?
[16:44] <imaffplayer> can I install ubuntu and bootloader without damaging my current windows installation?
[16:44] <ubuntukali497> k1l_ is there a chat interface on this such as irc.lc/freenode/kali ??
[16:44] <EriC^^> wwwi: no
[16:45] <EriC^^> it's just having a separate /usr partition
[16:45] <k1l_> !kali | ubuntukali497
[16:45] <EriC^^> wwwi: you could also use your hdd as /home
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> imaffplayer  it's called a !dualboot
[16:45] <EriC^^> to free some space from your current install
[16:46] <wwwi> I mean, I have hdd n1, then I install hdd n2, and somehow I just make second hdd point to usr, in addition to main hdd pointing there?
[16:46] <nuno_nunes> !dualboot
[16:46] <ubuntukali497> thanks 1
[16:47] <wwwi> and if I do that, can I use second hdd as other directories besides usr?
[16:47] <EriC^^> wwwi: no, the main hdd is pointing at "/" , you'll make the second hdd point to /usr
[16:47] <EriC^^> wwwi: whatever goes in /usr will be in the second hdd
[16:48] <EriC^^> wwwi: if you make more than 1 partition then you can mount the other partitions wherever you want and use them
[16:48] <imaffplayer> can I install ubuntu and bootloader without damaging my current windows installation?
[16:48] <EriC^^> imaffplayer: damaging how?
[16:48] <wwwi> so, I will have to move current data of usr to second hdd usr?
[16:48] <imaffplayer> EriC^^, to install ubuntu I need partion the disk, right?
[16:49] <EriC^^> imaffplayer: yes
[16:49] <wwwi> won't that damage Ubuntu and its apps and services?
[16:49] <EriC^^> wwwi: correct
[16:49] <imaffplayer> so, isnt that ruinning the windows installation?
[16:49] <EriC^^> wwwi: you have to do it in a live session from a live usb
[16:49] <wwwi> I see
[16:49] <wwwi> I have another question
[16:50] <EriC^^> imaffplayer: not really, you shrink the windows partition and use the unallocated space to make a partition for ubuntu
[16:50] <wwwi> some times I get message system problem detected, I click cancel and everything seems to work ok
[16:50] <wwwi> sometimes I get that message and programs die
[16:50] <wwwi> is all that normal?
[16:50] <imaffplayer> ok
[16:51] <imaffplayer> EriC^^, so ubuntu will install for me the bootloader too?
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> imaffplayer  yes, it's called GRUB
[16:52] <Dro> whats the correct permissions of /var/www ?
[16:53] <squinty> imaffplayer,  the thing to keep in mind is that there is no absolute guarantee that something won't go wrong.... therefore, back your windows system, have recovery disk etc etc
[16:53] <k1l_> Dro: 755
[16:54] <k1l_> Dro: dont change that, put your user into the www-data group. after relogin you can adjust the files
[16:54] <damntourists> ugh
[16:54] <Dro> k1l_, what about the html folder inside /var/www ?
[16:54] <k1l_> Dro: all the same
[16:54] <Dro> k1l_,  drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 avril 15 10:16 html
[16:55] <Dro> should i change owner to my user ?
[16:55] <k1l_> Dro: so you changed that with sudo/root?
[16:55] <damntourists> i have my monitors configured to be on top of each other in my nvidia settings, though, when i wake my comp up from the screen saver, it reverts it to side by side
[16:55] <Dro> k1l_, i didn't change anything
[16:55] <Dro> should i modify it ?
[16:55] <Myrtti> it shouldn't be owned by root
[16:55] <wwwi> thanks
[16:56] <Dro> Myrtti, k1l_ do you recommand to set the owner to my_user:my_user ?
[16:56] <Myrtti> no
[16:56] <k1l_> Dro: you did. root is not the standard owner of that directories. and you should not change that to your user.
[16:57] <Dro> k1l_, what should i do then? :D
[16:57] <Dro> in fact i have a permissions problem, i can't add/edit anything inside /var/www/html without sudo
[16:58] <k1l_> Dro: like i said already: put your user into the www-data group
[16:58] <Dro> k1l_, the current owner of /var/www/html is : root root
[16:59] <Artemis3> so change it :)
[16:59] <Dro> I have to set it to my_user:www-data then ?
[16:59] <k1l_> Dro: then you did ruin that already with playing with sudo or root
[16:59] <Dro> or my_user:my_user ?
[16:59] <damntourists> sudo useradd -G www-data username
[16:59] <k1l_> Dro: noooooooo. never your user
[16:59] <Dro> i'm not sure that www-data already exists
[16:59] <k1l_> Dro: what ubuntu system is that?
[16:59] <damntourists> what does "groups" show
[16:59] <Dro> k1l_, ubuntu 14.04
[17:00] <Dro> damntourists, $ groups
[17:00] <Dro> dro adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[17:00] <Dro> (dro is my user)
[17:00] <Dro> $ ls -la /var/www/
[17:00] <Dro> total 12
[17:00] <Dro> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 janv. 24 20:37 .
[17:00] <Dro> drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 janv. 24 20:37 ..
[17:00] <Dro> drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 avril 15 10:16 html
[17:01] <k1l_> Dro: on a original ubuntu system. the webservers are run by www-data and the stuff in /var/www is owned by www-data and www-data group
[17:01] <sruli> i have very bad graphics (jumping frames) on my laptop graphics card is intel hd i915 do i need separate drivers?
[17:01] <damntourists> sudo groupadd www-data
[17:01] <Akuli> sruli: What's in your driver section in software and updates?
[17:02] <r1c0> hello
[17:02] <Dro> damntourists, i'm wondering why should i add a www-data since my user group exist ?
[17:02] <Dro> whats the differance ?
[17:02] <k1l_> Dro: i already explained that 3 times now
[17:03] <sruli> Akuli: "no additional drivers available" and "no proprietary drivers are in use"
[17:03] <Dro> k1l_, sorry i didn't get the point
[17:03] <Dro> so i have to create a www-data user too ?
[17:03] <k1l_> Dro: www-data is the user and group on ubuntu which runs the webservers. so if you want your webserver to manage tha files in that folder put yourself into that group so you dont need to ruin that permissions with sudo again
[17:03] <Akuli> sruli: Which ubuntu are you running and what kernel?
[17:03] <Marenz> Greetings
[17:03] <k1l_> Dro: ubuntu already created that user.
[17:03] <Marenz> I am trying to set up an ubuntu server with a software raid1, GPT partition tables
[17:03] <Marenz> problem is, it's probably not an EFI bios and now it can't boot
[17:04] <Dro> k1l_, it don't appear in "users" or in "groups"
[17:04] <sruli> Akuli: its a fresh install 14.04 kernel is 4.2.0-35-generic
[17:04] <tme5> sruli, i use the i915 drivers too
[17:04] <Akuli> Your kernel is quite new, so that shouldn't be  the problem.
[17:05] <tme5> do you have the xorg intel package installed?
[17:05] <tme5> there is talk that it's not great, and the generic X one is better
[17:06] <k1l_> Dro: because its your user and your groups that are shown
[17:06] <sruli> tme5: yes i have "xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-wily"
[17:06] <k1l_> and you refuse to put your user in that group. so it will never show up on your groups.
[17:06] <Dro> k1l_,  i used " ps aux | grep httpd
[17:06] <Dro> " to check which user run the web server i found that its my user
[17:07] <k1l_> Dro: so how did you install the webserver?
[17:07] <tme5> sruli, try uninstalling, then restart X. compare performance
[17:07] <sruli> how do i restart X ?
[17:07] <k1l_> sruli: logout
[17:07] <umiit77> hello
[17:08] <k1l_> sruli: or if x is broken then restart your lightdm
[17:08] <Dro> k1l_, i forget! maybe somehow using command line
[17:08] <Dro> any way it works correctly
[17:08] <k1l_> Dro: what webserver is it?
[17:08] <Dro> except the permission problem when i try to add/edit files
[17:08] <Dro> k1l_, apache2
[17:09] <k1l_> "dpkg -l | grep apache | nc termbin.com 9999" run that and please show the url
[17:10] <lmtd> anyone know where i can buy a small laptop (13") with ubuntu pre-installed (100% compatible), a norwegian keyboard, at a reasonable price?
[17:11] <sruli> tme5: thanks that seems to have solved the issue for now
[17:11] <Dro> k1l_, http://termbin.com/jg6g
[17:12] <tme5> that's good! i was hoping i wasn't making it up haha
[17:12] <sruli> lol
[17:12] <tme5>  the X intel component i think is quite old
[17:12] <k1l_> Dro: so you changed the permissions in that folder and you changed the user to run the webserver?
[17:12] <tme5> you are still using the i915 kernel drivers but now a generic X part
[17:13] <Dro> k1l_, i didn't change anything, the www-data user/group didn't exist from the beign
[17:13] <Dro> begin
[17:13] <k1l_> Dro: on a original ubuntu setup the webservers are run by www-data and the /var/www folders are  owned by that user and group
[17:14] <Dro> k1l_, thats ok, so since the www-data don't exist, and the httpd server is running by my current user all i have to do is to set the permission of /var/www/html to my current user
[17:15] <k1l_> Dro: "cat /etc/passwd | nc termbin.com 9999" please show that url
[17:15] <k1l_> Dro: no.
[17:16] <Dro> k1l_, hmm it seems that www-data exist inside /etc/passwd
[17:16] <k1l_> Dro: "groups" is not listing every group on the server. its just listing the groups you are in
[17:16] <k1l_> Dro: so please dont say there is no www-data
[17:16] <Crysp> Does anyone know any development specific channels for ubuntu?
[17:17] <Dro> k1l_, you're right cat /etc/passwd | grep www-data shows that there is a www-data user
[17:17] <k1l_> Dro: like i said right from the start: put your user into the www-data group and put hat folders to www-data user and group. that is the right setup. if you dont want it that way, then do it your custom setup, but that is out of the scope of here
[17:18] <Dro> k1l_, what about the httpds server , its running by my user
[17:18] <k1l_> Dro: ps aux | grep www-data
[17:19] <sruli> tme5after a reboot i cant see mouse on the desktop, touchpad and mouse invisible, if i click all over the place stuff launch but i cant see the pointer
[17:20] <Dro> k1l_, 1 sec, the /var/www must be owned by www-data:www-data or the /var/www/html ?
[17:20] <k1l_> both
[17:20] <bauerj> anyone knows what I could do to solve this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/758394/mariadb-server-10-0-installation-seems-to-be-broken
[17:21] <sruli> i see tme5 has left the room, i had problems with my graphics, tme5 told me to remove intel drive, it sorted the graphics but after reboot mouse pointer is invisible
[17:28] <nexii> hello. I found instructions on how to convert an rpm to amd64 through ubuntu but was wondering how I can get this rpm to something usable on an arm device without compiling from source
[17:28] <nexii> the instructions I found are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Quickbooks%20Enterprise%20Data%20Server
[17:28] <VinceVon> hi all, I'm having some annoying issues with nvidia-xserver settings on ubuntu 15.10, can anyone help?
[17:29] <VinceVon> basically, the os recognises two monitors, but the nvidia settings recognise only one monitor, but it's a virtual one and it has the same resolution as both monitors combined
[17:29] <VinceVon> any time I try to change the res of one of them through control panel, it crashes and logs me out
[17:30] <Dro> k1l_, so I changed owner of /var/www to www-data ( sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www
[17:30] <Dro> )
[17:30] <Dro> then i added my current user to www-data
[17:30] <Dro> but i still unable to create a folder inside /var/www/html without sudo
[17:31] <k1l_> Dro: did you relogin?
[17:32]  * k1l_ is afk now. eveything is written in backlog several times anyway
[17:32] <Dro> k1l_, no i have to reboot?
[17:38] <Dro> I finally changed the owner of /var/www to my current user... no other solution ! ==> sudo chown -R $USER:www-data /var/www
[17:40] <feneco> hi, is it normal to ubuntu become very unresponsive, to the point that I have to hard reset, when there's few memory available? it happens both, on my desktop and laptop
[17:41] <feneco> and I have 10Gb physical memory, and 500Mb swap
[17:41] <Ben64> no, of course that isn't normal
[17:42] <Ben64> oh i read that wrong. yes if you run out of memory things will be bad
[17:43] <feneco> shouldn't the OS manage the memory used by the programs somehow?
[17:43] <feneco> I mean, if a program become unresponsive is better than the entire OS
[17:44] <Ben64> once everything fills up the os should start killing processes
[17:44] <Ben64> real solution is to get more ram, or add more swap
[17:44] <feneco> how much swap is recommended?
[17:44] <Ben64> depends how much you need
[17:45] <akik> Dro: you don't need to reboot for the user account change, but logout & login again
[17:45] <VinceVon> it used to be double the ram when ram was small
[17:45] <VinceVon> 1GB-2GB
[17:45] <VinceVon> over 8GB I use half the ram
[17:45] <feneco> is there a limit? a value that could harm the system somehow?
[17:45] <VinceVon> got 16GB on my machine, set 8GB as swap
[17:46] <Ben64> no
[17:46] <VinceVon> chrome uses it all when many tabs are open lol
[17:46] <feneco> yes, chrome is the evil here too
[17:46] <VinceVon> but I read about chrome, it seems it reserves the memory, not actually uses it, and is able to release if other software request more memory
[17:47] <VinceVon> of course it's terrible practice, but it's not as bad as it seems
[17:47] <VinceVon> are you able to increase the sawp size in gparted?
[17:47] <feneco> I guess I will try make a bigger swap then
[17:47] <feneco> VinceVon: I don't know
[17:48] <feneco> actually I have to search how I'm going to do it, I hope I can do it without having to mess my partition table
[17:48] <Ben64> you can make a swap file
[17:49] <feneco> Ben64: how would be that? it would work like the swap partition?
[17:51] <Ben64> feneco: yep
[17:51] <vervet> feneco: it's like the windows way of doing it, instead of a dedicated partition it just writes to a file on another existing one
[17:52] <feneco> cool
[17:52] <feneco> so I can keep my swap partition and additional swap files
[17:55] <feneco> thanks, i'll try here
[17:58] <sruli> had a problem with my mouse,  read on a help page to replace gnome-settings-deamon with unity-settings-deamon after removing gnome-settings-deamon it removed network so couldent install gnome-unity-deamon, tried rebooting but that hangs, is there anyway i can fix this with livecd?
[17:59] <Akuli> sruli: What did you do to remove it?
[17:59] <Akuli> sudo apt-get remove gnome-settings-deamon ?
[18:00] <sruli> Akuli: no in synaptic removed it, i guess it removed many packages with it
[18:00] <Akuli> Ok, then we can fix it with a live cd and chroot.
[18:00] <Akuli> Are you booted from a live cd now?
[18:01] <sruli> Akuli: tried from chroot, couldnt resolve ubuntu.com, will get back in to livecd now
[18:01] <Akuli> sruli: You need to copy over /etc/resolv.conf
[18:01] <Akuli> Or mount --bind it
[18:01] <Phiend> Anyone can't update, getting connection failed?
[18:01] <Akuli> Phiend: Which mirror are you using? Change it.
[18:02] <Phiend> ok
[18:02] <Akuli> If you're talking about apt-get update
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> !ddetails | Phiend
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> !details | Phiend
[18:03] <Akuli> sruli: Booted from the live dvd now?
[18:03] <Tank> Hey guys
[18:03] <Akuli> Hi Tank
[18:03] <Tank> I have a problem with the login
[18:04] <Guest63144> I type in my password, it went to the desktop and restarted
[18:04] <Akuli> Guest63144: Fresh install or not?
[18:04] <Guest63144> Been happening like that ever since
[18:04] <sruli> Akuli: "mount --bind /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf" ?
[18:04] <Guest63144> No. However I have been running it for about 4 months now
[18:04] <Akuli> sruli: Yes, exactly.
[18:04] <Guest63144> No problem at all
[18:04] <Akuli> sruli: Thats the only thing you actually need to bind
[18:05] <sruli> Akuli: do i need to mount boot?
[18:05] <Akuli> mount /dev/sdthingy /mnt; mount --bind /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf; chroot /mnt
[18:05] <Akuli> That's all you really need.
[18:05] <Akuli> You're not going to actually boot anything from there :)
[18:06] <Akuli> You're going to use the live cd's kernel and all anyway, just bash from your computer.
[18:06] <Guest63144> Akuli: I think it has something to do with my nvidia driver.
[18:07] <Guest63144> I have tried out many tutorials
[18:07] <Guest63144> None of them seem to work
[18:07] <Guest63144> Installed gdm.
[18:07] <Guest63144> Didn't work
[18:07] <Akuli> Problem is that the easiest way to change the driver is after the login :(
[18:07] <Guest63144> Exactly
[18:07] <Akuli> Are you installing from mini.iso or a pre-made distro?
[18:08] <ubuntufriendz> hey guys, i am using ubuntu 12.04 does this work right?
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> ubuntufriendz  what brings you here
[18:08] <Guest63144> I have a lot of my important files in there. Is there a way to access it?
[18:08] <Guest63144> Mini.iso?
[18:08] <sruli> Akuli: in chroot "apt-get install unity-settings-deamon"?
[18:09] <ubuntufriendz> monkeydust, I am showing a friend how to use the ubuntu installation
[18:09] <Akuli> Yes
[18:09] <ubuntufriendz> thank you !
[18:09] <Akuli> sruli: and hope that the internet works :D
[18:09] <Akuli> You can also "ping www.google.com" if you want to check
[18:10] <Akuli> sruli: Once i removed my network-manager and fixed that with chroot :D
[18:10] <sruli> Akuli: unknown host google.com guess internet now working
[18:10] <Guest63144> Akuli: is there any way to access the information on my Ubuntu partition since I am stuck in this boot loop
[18:10] <Akuli> Guest63144: Press Ctrl+Alt+F1, you
[18:10] <Akuli> oops
[18:10] <Akuli> you'll get into a non-gui world.
[18:11] <Akuli> There you can move and copy files, move stuff to usb stick, list your partitions, play minesweeper, whatever you want :)
[18:11] <Akuli> No need for a gui.
[18:11] <Guest63144> Akuli: cool. How do I start moving around things with that?
[18:11] <Akuli> Want to move stuff to a usb stick?
[18:11] <Guest63144> Akuli: external hd
[18:11] <Akuli> Ok
[18:11] <sruli> Akuli: no internet, how can i get it connected
[18:11] <Akuli> Run lsblk, plug in the hd and run lsblk again.
[18:12] <Akuli> The output should have changed.
[18:12] <Akuli> sruli: What's in your /etc/resolv.conf?
[18:12] <Akuli> sruli: Or is it a link somewhere?
[18:12] <Guest63144> Akuli: lsblk is it some sort of back up?
[18:12] <Akuli> Guest63144: It just lists your hard drives :)
[18:13] <sruli>  Akuli: empty just the "do not edit this file by hand..."
[18:13] <Guest63144> Akuli: oh sweet
[18:13] <Akuli> Guest63144: We need to first mount your external hard drive to access it.
[18:13] <xfoob> hello all
[18:13] <Akuli> sruli: ok, then we're stuck :(
[18:13] <Akuli> That's what all the tutorials i've seen recommend doing
[18:13] <Akuli> so i dont know :(
[18:14] <Guest63144> Akuli: yup. Sdb.
[18:14] <Guest30800> meh
[18:15] <Akuli> Guest63144: Just sdb or sdb and a number?
[18:15] <Guest63144> Akuli: just sdb
[18:15] <Akuli> Ok
[18:15] <Jamai> Hello, I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 and recently I upgraded my kernel from 4.2.0-16 to 4.2.0-35 and it doesn't boot. It keeps saying "Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while...". I tried unpacking both initrd and comparing them using git-diff. The only difference was in "lib/firmware" and "lib/modules" (diff stats: http://pastebin.com/gbq4d38d). I have no idea what's going on. Also I have everything encrypted (encrypted sda1 [mou
[18:15] <Akuli> Guest63144: Now let's mount it to /mnt: sudo mount /dev/sdv /mnt
[18:15] <Guest63144> Akuli: sdb1
[18:15] <Akuli> oh ok
[18:15] <Jamai> (encrypted sda1 [mounted as /boot] + encrypted sda2 [mounted as /]). I run kernel with commands: "root=UUID=..uuid here.. ro cryptdevice=/dev/sda2:sda2_crypt", I have keyfile, which unlocks both sda1 and sda2, inside initrd and "target=sda2_crypt,source=UUID=..uuide here..,key=/crypto_keyfile.bin,rootdev,keyscript=/lib/cryptsetup/scripts/cat,discard" inside "conf/conf.d/cryptroot".
[18:15] <Akuli> Guest63144: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[18:15] <sruli> anyone know how to get internet connection in chroot on livecd?
[18:16] <Akuli> Guest63144: Probably easiest if you run sudo -i so you don't need to add sudo in front of everything :)
[18:16] <Guest63144> Akuli: done
[18:17] <Akuli> Guest63144: Now, are you in sudo -i?
[18:17] <Guest63144> Akuli: yup
[18:17] <Akuli> Guest63144: Now, we can make a folder for all your stuff: mkdir /mnt/mystuff
[18:17] <Akuli> mkdir just makes an empty directory
[18:18] <Akuli> Then, to move around and see what's in things: ls will list everything in the current directory, cd place will go to place and cd .. will go a level up.
[18:18] <Guest63144> Akuli: I have my important files on my desktop. Also. Mkdir done
[18:19] <Akuli> Guest63144: Then let's copy over the desktop contents
[18:19] <Akuli> cp /home/yourusername/Desktop /mnt/mystuff
[18:19] <Guest63144> Akuli: cool
[18:19] <Akuli> You won't have any indicator of how long it will take
[18:19] <Akuli> But shouldn't be too long :)
[18:20] <thedeveloper> hi
[18:20] <thedeveloper> is there a snipping tool in ubuntu similar to those in windows OS
[18:21] <Akuli> thedeveloper: My MATE desktop has a screenshot tool, not sure about unity.
[18:21] <thedeveloper> a snipping tool that can capture a screen
[18:21] <thedeveloper> Akuli: what is the name of the app that you are using
[18:22] <Akuli> mate-screenshot
[18:22] <sruli> Akuli: got the internet working installed unity-settings-daemon, anything else to install / configure?
[18:22] <Guest63144> Akuli: it shows - cp: omitting directory (incoherent letters, 3 of them)/home/lsd/Desktop(again 3 incoherent letters)
[18:22] <Akuli> It came as a part of my mate desktop though
[18:22] <Akuli> sruli: If you didn't remove anything else I guess that's it.
[18:22] <Akuli> sruli: When you're done just exit and umount /mnt
[18:22] <Crude> hi room
[18:23] <Akuli> thedeveloper: If it's not in your repos add the ubuntu mate repository, that's where i got it from
[18:23] <Guest63144> Akuli: I'm guessing it hasn't coppied
[18:23] <sruli> Akuli: i guess it did remove many other packages with it, no clue which, will try reboot and see where i get
[18:23] <Crude> Hows it going today everyone?
[18:23] <Akuli> sruli: You can check the apt log if you want
[18:23] <geirha> Guest63144: Sounds like the locale is set to use utf-8 encoding, your terminal emulator is using a different encoding, like latin1
[18:24] <Akuli> sruli: It's in /var/log/apt/history.log
[18:24] <geirha> Guest63144: A common issue when using putty. It defaults to using latin1 instead of utf-8
[18:24] <Guest63144> geirha: hmm. What do you suggest I do now?
[18:25] <geirha> I'm just responding to the "incoherent letters, 3 of them" bit. Haven't read the full context
[18:26] <Crude> dog poo.
[18:27] <Guest63144> geirha: I am currently stuck in a login loop. Tried various methods. None worked. I have a few important files on my desktop and akuli has been nice enough to help me try copying it onto my external hd
[18:27] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Turns out that the screenshot tool is a part of mate-utils
[18:27] <geirha> cp requires -r (or -a) in order to copy directories recursively
[18:27] <Akuli> Guest63144: Is there something not working with copying?
[18:27] <sruli> Akuli: not booting i guess i will need to get back into livecd and find the apt history
[18:27] <Akuli> Oh right
[18:27] <Crude> brown dog poo.
[18:27] <Akuli> Guest63144: The correct command would be cp -r /home/yourusername/Desktop /mnt/mystuff
[18:28] <thedeveloper> Akuli: sorry I do not need a screen shoot tool I only need a snipping tool that captures the part of the desktop screen that I want and not the whole screen
[18:28] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Yes, the tool also does that.
[18:28] <thedeveloper> Akuli: oh I see
[18:28] <Guest63144> Akuli & geirha. Cool I'll test it now
[18:28] <Crude> smelly brown dog poo.
[18:28] <Akuli> Guest63144: the -r there just means recursive, so it can do more than one file.
[18:28] <thedeveloper> does it have a specific terminal command to use the mate-utils repo
[18:29] <Akuli> let me look up where it comes from.
[18:29] <Akuli> baaah apt-cache show doesn't mention what repo its form
[18:29] <Akuli> from
[18:30] <Akuli> thedeveloper: I think it's from this ppa, add it to your sources.list: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate-dev/ppa/ubuntu trusty main
[18:30] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Or maybe you can browse to it without adding it,
[18:31] <Nyctophilia> Hello, I have a problem with the tool expect under Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. I want to automate ssh logins to some Sophos UTM Firewalls and evelate my rights directly after with "sudo su -" and the correct password. I don't have to worry about plain text passwords, because my script runs directly out of the KeePass URL field (doubleclick executes the script and fills it with the correct passwords via
[18:31] <Nyctophilia> agrument/KeePass {Placeholder} behind the script).
[18:31] <Nyctophilia> I managed to get all of this done, except for not having a remote-root shell, which is not executing any commands and "dropping the connection" back to my ubuntu system. So the command I'm trying to run remotely is not excecuting for 3-5 seconds and then gets suddenly executed on the ubuntu system. Without telling me what happened.
[18:31] <Nyctophilia> What do I have to do, to have fully functioning remote-shell?
[18:31] <Nyctophilia> Pastebin with the explained stuff happening:
[18:31] <Nyctophilia> http://pastebin.com/SJiHejG4
[18:31] <Nyctophilia> Thanks in advance!
[18:31] <Crude> poo
[18:31] <thedeveloper> Akuli: what do you mean browse without adding
[18:31] <thedeveloper> you mean use the software center
[18:31] <Crude> hello
[18:31] <Akuli> thedeveloper: It's just a place in launcpad
[18:31] <Akuli> Maybe you can go there with a web browser
[18:31] <Akuli> and download just mate-utils and nothing else
[18:32] <thedeveloper> Akuli: sorry but I am not following you
[18:32] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Turns out you also need mate-utils-common. Probably easiest to add the ppa.
[18:33] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Ok, let me give you some more specific instruction :)
[18:33] <Crude> yeah Akuli get it together.
[18:33] <thedeveloper> Akuli: ok thanks
[18:34] <Akuli> Run this: echo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate-dev/ppa/ubuntu trusty main | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:34] <Akuli> the -a is important, don't leave it out.
[18:35] <Crude> fucking hell
[18:35] <Seveas> Akuli: that's more safely done as sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/ppa
[18:35] <Akuli> Thanks Seveas.
[18:35] <tyuiop> hi there
[18:35] <Akuli> thedeveloper: If you didn't run the command already run this instead: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/ppa
[18:36] <Akuli> Seveas: i have to admit, i had forgotten that command :(
[18:36] <Seveas> Akuli: as a punishment, say three hail maries and run around the dining room table twelve times :)
[18:36] <calher> aww man i hav to reg
[18:37] <Akuli> lol
[18:37] <calher> i never reg because i always make passwords that i cant type when im at a work computer and bored af
[18:37] <calher> or im stuck at a tty and cant copy/paste pass
[18:38] <thedeveloper> Akuli: done what's next
[18:38] <Seveas> Nyctophilia: I'm not sure if that will actually work, as I believe sudo reads direct from the terminal (so not automatable)
[18:38] <calher> well im here cuz im on a trusty system and i cant get virt-manager to work -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/15902232/
[18:38] <Akuli> thedeveloper: sudo apt-get update
[18:39] <Seveas> calher: any added groups only take effect in new sessions, so log out and log back in.
[18:39] <thedeveloper> Akuli: done
[18:39] <calher> Seveas: oki
[18:39] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Does this work? sudo apt-get install mate-utils
[18:40] <Akuli> By the way, that was a really fast update
[18:40] <thedeveloper> Akuli: Package mate-utils is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[18:40] <thedeveloper> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[18:40] <thedeveloper> is only available from another source
[18:40] <Akuli> oh well...
[18:40] <Akuli> how about sudo apt-get install firefox?
[18:41] <Akuli> just wondering if we broke the sources.list complitely...
[18:41] <thedeveloper> Akuli: I already have a firefox
[18:41] <Akuli> see if that makes an  error anyway
[18:41] <Akuli> or maybe better not to gues
[18:41] <Akuli> s
[18:41] <Seveas> apt-cache policy firefox
[18:41] <Guest63144> Akuli: How do I confirm that it has copied all the files onto my external HD?
[18:41] <Seveas> that'll tell you all repos it finds firefox in
[18:41] <Akuli> thedeveloper: How many lines of output does "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" produce?
[18:41] <Akuli> Guest63144: You can use ls to list content of directories
[18:42] <thedeveloper> Akuli: firefox is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:42] <Akuli> Guest63144: ls /mnt/mystuff/Desktop
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> thedeveloper  then add --reinstall
[18:42] <Guest63144> Akuli: Peace. I'll go check it
[18:42] <Akuli> Ok :)
[18:42] <Akuli> I'm arfaid he overwrite his sources.list with nothing but the mate repo :(
[18:43] <thedeveloper> Akuli: what
[18:43] <Akuli> the apt-get update was so fast
[18:43] <Akuli> Did you remember the -a?
[18:43] <Akuli> Or maybe he's just missing another ubuntu mate repo?
[18:43] <feneco> shouldn't the system be using more swap already? http://termbin.com/mfpa
[18:43] <Akuli> That could be too.
[18:43] <thedeveloper> Akuli: deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
[18:43] <thedeveloper> deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
[18:44] <Guest63144> Akuli: It seems to have done the trick. Thanks a lot bro
[18:44] <Seveas> feneco: no, why should it?
[18:44] <Akuli> Guest63144: Now we just need to unmount it
[18:44] <Seveas> feneco: you have 1.3GB memory free, no reason to use swap
[18:44] <Akuli> Guest63144: umount /mnt
[18:44] <Akuli> Guest63144: Then you're ready to power off your hard drive and all your files are there :)
[18:45] <Guest63144> Oh cool :)
[18:45] <thedeveloper> Akuli: deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
[18:45] <thedeveloper> deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
[18:45] <feneco> Seveas: very few ram available, and swapiness set to 60 by default
[18:45] <Akuli> thedeveloper: nothing else in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[18:45] <feneco> i thought it would use already
[18:45] <Seveas> thedeveloper: if that's your entire sources.list, it's rather broken
[18:45] <Akuli> oh crap :(
[18:45] <thedeveloper> Seveas: then what else can I do
[18:45] <Seveas> feneco: 1.3GB isn't "very little ram" :)
[18:45] <Akuli> maybe the tee -a idea wasn't that good
[18:46] <Seveas> Akuli: tee -a wasn't used. No mate in sources.list :)
[18:46] <feneco> Seveas: haha, thanks :)
[18:46] <Akuli> Last time i emptied my sources.list i just copied it from my laptop
[18:46] <Akuli> Seveas: You're sure he used your command?
[18:46] <Akuli> Nice
[18:46] <feneco> also I was counting the value without -/+ buffers/cache
[18:46] <Nyctophilia> Seveas: I could make it work like that under windows machines with the ssh client kitty, instead of putty, it has a -cmd switch, so you can execute some commands after connect. So it says -cmd sudo su-\p\n\{PASSWORD} (\p inserts a 1-sec pause). So this is the point that is getting me confused about linux terminals. If I'll add a command to the shellscript like "whoami" with send (from expect),
[18:46] <Nyctophilia> It'll execute this command remotely, after that, the same weird problem occurs. So by that I mean the non-reacting terminal for a few seconds and the drop-back to the ubuntu shell.
[18:46] <Seveas> Akuli: I'm not. The output just shows he didn't use the tee -a :)
[18:47] <Seveas> Nyctophilia: try at least ssh -t instead of ssh to enforce allocating a PTY. See how that goes.
[18:47] <Guest63144> BTW I am unable to change my directory to videos. Ls command shows only desktop.
[18:47] <Nyctophilia> already did that, just look at the pastebin
[18:48] <Akuli> thedeveloper: What's the number "cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list | tail -1" starts with?
[18:48] <Akuli> I mean its output
[18:48] <Nyctophilia> if I'll don't do that, the stdin error comes uo
[18:48] <Nyctophilia> up*
[18:48] <Seveas> Nyctophilia: ah, apologies, I missed that
[18:48] <Akuli> Mine is 58
[18:48] <Guest63144> Akuli: How do I change the directory to videos. Ls command shows only desktop.
[18:49] <Akuli> Guest63144: We only copied your desktop.
[18:49] <Akuli> cp -R /home/username/Videos /mnt/mystuff/
[18:49] <Akuli> That'll get videos too.
[18:49] <Akuli> ls /home/username will get you a list of everything in your home folder.
[18:49] <Guest63144> Akuli: damn. Cool :)
[18:50] <Akuli> By the way, it doesn't matter if its -R or -r
[18:50] <Akuli> in case you're wondering
[18:50] <thedeveloper> Akuli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15902505/
[18:51] <Akuli> thedeveloper: No worries, your sources are just fine.
[18:51] <Seveas> thedeveloper: why not pastebin the entire file :) Or even better, the output of this: more /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | cat
[18:51] <Akuli> I got all the info i need.
[18:51] <Akuli> I'd pipe it to nc termbin.com 9999 instead if that was the thing :)
[18:52] <Akuli> Or pastebinit, if installed.
[18:52] <Akuli> Anyway, now lets just add another repo and we can install the mate-utils thing :)
[18:52] <thedeveloper> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15902547/
[18:52] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Run on terminal: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/trusty-mate
[18:54] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mate-utils
[18:55] <thedeveloper> Akuli: shall I do upgrade also after
[18:55] <thedeveloper> the installation
[18:56] <Akuli> No need.
[18:56] <Akuli> But you can if you want :)
[18:59] <thedeveloper> Akuli: done
[18:59] <thedeveloper> what is the name of the app that I can use now
[18:59] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Do you now have a mate-screenshot-tool in menu?
[18:59] <Akuli> I think its "take screenshot" or something
[19:00] <thedeveloper> Akuli: how shall I get into that mate-screenshot-tool menu
[19:00] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Running mate-screenshot on a terminal should work too
[19:00] <Akuli> With the menu i meant your unity dash or whatever you have
[19:01] <sruli> Akuli: i remember now, after removing gnome-settings-daemon i tried to install unity-settings-daemon it gave a nerror install-f did not help so i did autoremove,  it removed 100's apt history log see paste.ubuntu.com/15902710/
[19:01] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Did you get mate-screenshot running?
[19:02] <thedeveloper> Akuli: yeah I think I got it
[19:02] <Akuli> Nice :)
[19:02] <thedeveloper> Akuli: but I think this screenshot tool is the default for ubuntu
[19:02] <Akuli> If you choose to select the area can you do a snip?
[19:03] <thedeveloper> Akuli: yes
[19:03] <thedeveloper> you are cool man
[19:03] <thedeveloper> thanks a lot bro
[19:04] <Akuli> thedeveloper: If you just go to your dash and type screenshot you'll probably find the tool from there too
[19:04] <sruli> Akuli: what can i do to reinstall all required packages? is there a command to reinstall unity completly?
[19:05] <Akuli> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:05] <Akuli> but DONT actually use it
[19:05] <sruli> ?
[19:05] <thedeveloper> Akuli: yeah but I thought this tool is already default in ubuntu I just didn't notice that it had options to grab part of the screen
[19:05] <Akuli> because i have no idea what you'd break :D
[19:05] <Akuli> The mate edition comes with it, it is for mate anyway :)
[19:05] <sruli> sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[19:06] <Akuli> Doesn't that reinstall just the meta package?
[19:06] <Seveas> sruli: that'd only reinstall the metapackage
[19:06] <brainwash> !metapackage
[19:06] <thedeveloper> Akuli: thanks so much man
[19:06] <sruli> so waht do i need to do to reinstall?
[19:06] <Akuli> My command should ideally be ran from chroot with internet
[19:06] <Akuli> Then it'd be just fine
[19:06] <Seveas> sruli: why do you want to reinstall packages?
[19:07] <sruli> there is 100's will take me hours to copy and paste from log file
[19:07] <Seveas> right, so you just want to make sure they're installed?
[19:07] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get -f --fix-policy install
[19:07] <sruli> Akuli: i'm confused, you wrote "but DONT actually use it" what did u mean by that?
[19:07] <Seveas> the second half of that will install all packages that are "recommended" but not "required"
[19:08] <thedeveloper> Akuli: thanks a lot man
[19:08] <thedeveloper> thanks a lot everyone
[19:08] <sruli> Seveas: that will work from chroot?
[19:08] <thedeveloper> gotta go to bed now
[19:08] <thedeveloper> see you all later
[19:08] <Seveas> sruli: as long as you have network connectivity from the chroot
[19:08] <thedeveloper> bye
[19:08] <sruli> Seveas: ok, will try that
[19:09] <Seveas> sruli: and Akulis command will do something similar to what you did and remove tons of packages. Given that you already seem to know how to do that, it seems unnecessary to do more :D
[19:10] <sruli> Seveas: never come accross --fix-policy before, what does that do?
[19:10] <Seveas> sruli: I explained it above
[19:10] <Seveas> it'll probably install far too much, but you can cull again later
[19:11] <sruli> Seveas: it said it will install 159 new packages, that seems far less then what was removed
[19:11] <Seveas> sruli: then you may have had more installed than just the default packages
[19:13] <sruli> Seveas: possibly, was trying to get bluetooth working so messed with that then video card then got into a mess ;-)
[19:13] <hans_> hi guys
[19:13] <Seveas> sruli: so start with this to get to a working system and take it from there
[19:13] <hans_> i have a problem whit my mouse
[19:13] <hans_> ubuntu wont see him
[19:14] <sruli> Seveas: at the end of ur command was "install" is that correct? it finished now but gave an error "unable to locate package install"
[19:14] <hans_> its a arc touch mouse from microsoft
[19:14] <Seveas> sruli: did you copy the command exactly?
[19:14] <sruli> hans_: does it not work at all or is only the pointer not visible?
[19:14] <sruli> Seveas: yes
[19:15] <Seveas> sruli: hmm. That makes no sense. Humour me and pastebin what's in your terminal (the command and its output)
[19:15] <sruli> Seveas: only missed the "sudo" as in chroot
[19:15] <M1K4> 1
[19:16] <hans_> he wont work at all when he is connect he wont work
[19:17] <Seveas> hans_: which Ubuntu version?
[19:17] <sruli> Seveas: livecd only has 512 lines scroll back.. i also see some errors while scrolling back paste.ubuntu.com/15903044
[19:18] <sruli> hans_: do u see it in lsusb ?
[19:18] <hans_> im now on gnome 15.10 and try live 16.04
[19:18] <Seveas> sruli: it's a bluetooth mouse :)
[19:18] <hans_> yep
[19:18] <Seveas> sruli: hit the up arrow and enter to repeat the command :)
[19:19] <Seveas> !info bluez wily
[19:19] <hans_> is there a solution for a bluetooth mouse
[19:20] <Seveas> hans_: askubuntu has an answer that may work http://askubuntu.com/questions/658005/surface-arc-touch-mouse-not-working-with-ubuntu-15-04
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> hans_  install blueman
[19:21] <sruli> hans_: before installing blueman, unpair the device, reboot install blueman and pair
[19:22] <jokke> hi
[19:22] <sruli> Seveas: again unable to locate, paste.ubuntu.com/15903088
[19:22] <hans_> i have install blueman allready
[19:22] <jokke> i'm trying to get a travis config to work
[19:22] <jokke> and i need a g++ supporting c++11
[19:23] <jokke> so i added sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test to the before_install section
[19:23] <hans_> i will take a look at the site
[19:23] <Seveas> sruli: as I thought, you didn't copy properly :)
[19:23] <jokke> the problem: it expects user input (hitting enter)
[19:23] <Seveas> you have 'install' twice in the second command, unlike what I said.
[19:24] <jokke> i don't have a ubuntu system here so i don't know what flags i can pass add-apt-repository to assume "yes" for all user input
[19:24] <Seveas> jokke: -y
[19:24] <jokke> if you could help me that'd be very much appreciated
[19:24] <jokke> Seveas: oh
[19:24] <jokke> thanks!
[19:24] <jokke> so it's the same as in apt-get
[19:25] <geirha> manpages.ubuntu.com -> search for add-apt-repository
[19:25] <sruli> Seveas: i see first install was kinda force of habit ;-) will redo
[19:26] <sruli> Seveas: ok 65 new packages now
[19:27] <sruli> Seveas: going for the reboot, we'll see how it goes
[19:27] <hans_> is there no easy solution im a noob
[19:28] <rindolf> hans_: to what?
[19:28] <Seveas> hans_: looks like there isn't. If 16.04 doesn't work, then either wait for 16.10 or try the solution from askubuntu
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> hans_  or use a normal mouse
[19:29] <hans_> :{
[19:29] <hans_> linux must be fun ;{
[19:30] <hans_> but its hard for noobs
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> everything is hard for beginners
[19:31] <_Diskord> Have some problems with auto completing in vim
[19:31] <darkblue330> Ubuntu is a nice introduction to Linux though.
[19:31] <darkblue330> _Diskord: ##vim might be more of help but we might be able to help here too.
[19:32] <sruli> Seveas: working, thanks
[19:35] <sruli> Seveas: but back to sq 1 with bluetooth connected now
[19:36] <Seveas> sruli: good thing I know nothing about bluetooth :)
[19:36] <sruli> Seveas: for some reason ubuntu and bluetooth dont mix
[19:37] <k1l_> sruli: imho that depends on the used bluetooth chip. mine works well on my thinkpad.
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> sruli  that's FUD
[19:37] <Seveas> I've only ever used it to transfer files from my mobile to my laptop. That seems to work
[19:38] <Seveas> sruli: do you have some excessively modern hardware you're trying to use?
[19:38] <Seveas> or something exotic?
[19:40] <sruli> Seveas: i am trying now on a new HP pavilion laptop, but have tried over last 2 years with many different usb bt chips on my desktop, some with full linux support and never got a2dp working properly
[19:41] <Seveas> hmm, audio
[19:42] <sruli> ok, unpaired, rebooted, paired again, working now, we'll see how long it lasts
[19:42] <Seveas> ever since pulseaudio, linux audio became more complicated. Not sure if that's related at all though :)
[19:46] <scalper> i wanna install ubuntu but i want to install it on usb stick, if i run the installation from another usb stick to install it on usb stick b, does it also copy any file to my hdd? let's say if i set my hdd not to boot from
[19:47] <scalper> can't disable my hdd here, i only can change the boot order
[19:47] <scalper> but i don't want to change any settings on the hdd, so it shouldnt write anything to that hdd
[19:47] <sruli> Seveas: after that reinstall it reinstalled xorg-inter graphic driver for wily, that gives me bad graphics so i removed again, and now my mouse pointer has become indivisible again, at least now i know what caused it and wont remove gnome-settings again ;-) what can i do to get my mouse pointer without using that awful graphics driver?
[19:47] <scalper> so i can set my hdd to be the last one in the bootorder for example
[19:47] <BluesKaj> !persistent
[19:48] <Jordan_U> scalper: First be aware that an installation to a cheap thumb drive is going to be *really slow*.
[19:48] <jmadero_away> hi all - is there any way to enable hardware acceleration with flash now....I get horrendous performance when not in full screen (only in firefox, Chrome is fine)
[19:48] <scalper> Jordan_U: it is not a very cheap drive
[19:49] <scalper> it should be as fast like the hdd is
[19:49] <scalper> usb 3.0
[19:49] <scalper> fast usb stick
[19:49] <Jordan_U> scalper: As far as leaving things around where you don't want them, there is a possible problem if you're installing from a BIOS based machine, and a definite problem if you're installing from a UEFI based machine.
[19:49] <scalper> yes i use UEFI
[19:50] <scalper> Jordan_U: i could technically dissamble the hdd first to make sure there will be no data written to it
[19:50] <Jordan_U> scalper: For UEFI, the problem bits will actually be in your firmware's nvram, not your internal HD :)
[19:50] <scalper> ok
[19:51] <Jordan_U> scalper: For UEFI, the standard installation will create an entry in your boot firmware pointing to Ubuntu's grub installation. And the grub installation will be setup such that this firmware entry is needed to boot Ubuntu.
[19:51] <scalper> Jordan_U: is there any data that gets on the hdd?
[19:51] <scalper> ah ok
[19:51] <Jordan_U> scalper: For a UEFI installation, unless you really do something wrong when selecting options in the installer, no.
[19:51] <scalper> and is this boot firmware located on the internal memory of the bios itself?
[19:52] <Jordan_U> scalper: Correct. It's on a little flash chip connected to your motherboard.
[19:52] <scalper> ah ok, usefull information
[19:53] <scalper> Jordan_U: but it isnt technically possible to exclude that information, because i livecd will also bootup without using that part of the flaschip
[19:54] <nomic> z.z.
[19:54] <Jordan_U> scalper: So, I would recommend that you do a normal installation then boot from your new Ubuntu installation. Then from your new Ubuntu installation we can do three things. 1: Configure Ubuntu so that it will boot on any UEFI machine, not just the one you installed to 2: Remove the UEFI entry and 3: Make sure that future updates don't add the entry back (since it would be unpleasant to be working on your
[19:55] <Jordan_U> friend Bob's computer and have it leave a UEFI boot entry behind when you're done).
[19:55] <scalper> ok
[19:56] <Jordan_U> scalper: Step one is very easy, you just run "sudo grub-install --removable". Note that you'll want to run that manually any time grub-efi-amd64-bin gets updated.
[19:56] <Jordan_U> scalper: For the second step you'll use the tool efibootmgr to remove the "Ubuntu" entry in your boot firmware.
[19:57] <scalper> clear to me
[19:59] <Jordan_U> scalper: For the third step you'll run "sudo apt-get remove grub-efi-amd64" note that this won't actually remove grub's UEFI support, that's in grub-efi-amd64-bin. Due to unfortunate dependencies though, it will remove grub's secure boot support. What it will do is remove the package that automatically runs grub-install on upgrades.
[19:59] <Jordan_U> scalper: Sorry, I have to leave.
[19:59] <Blink`> Hi, does anyone have a guide for securing a new ubuntu 14.04 server?
[20:00] <Blink`> I'm googling all the wrong keywords.
[20:00] <guntbert_> Blink`: if you asking for "server" there is #ubuntu-server too
[20:01] <brainwash> Blink`: try "ubuntu hardening"
[20:01] <guntbert_> Blink`: have a look into ufw, for starters
[20:01] <Blink`> Please elaborate on ufw
[20:01] <brainwash> !ufw
[20:01] <Blink`> ty
[20:01] <Blink`> and ty brainwash
[20:03] <jokke> how do i find out which package provides gtk-doc
[20:04] <TimSchumi> apt-cache search gtk-doc
[20:04] <jmadero_away> gtk-doc-tools
[20:04] <TimSchumi> if it has his own package, you can also write apt-cache show gtk-doc
[20:05] <jmadero_away> as far as how - google is your friend :-b
[20:05] <jokke> thx
[20:07] <Blink`> Before I do hardening, am I supposed to do the whole ssh stuff first?
[20:07] <Blink`> public/private key?
[20:11] <jmadero_away> Blink`: you create the key first, then you share the public key with those machines/people you want to share with
[20:11] <jmadero_away> the key will be located in .ssh
[20:11] <jmadero_away> never share the private key, if you do by mistake, revoke the key immediately and make a new one
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> if you share it, it's no longer private
[20:15] <NoobFan> hi friends, my ubuntu always freezes..what might be the problem?
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> NoobFan  that's too general ... what ubuntu version, did it work before, when did it start, what has changed, what have you done/tried so far etc
[20:16] <TimSchumi> CAn you monitor the CPU heat?
[20:17] <NoobFan> MonkeyDust: its the new version..it was happening from the initial ... i didn't tried anything
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> NoobFan  what new version? 16.04? if yes: support in #ubuntu+1
[20:18] <NoobFan> MonkeyDust: its 15 i think .. the stable one
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> NoobFan  what's the output of  cat /etc/issue
[20:18] <NoobFan> MonkeyDust: i'm currently on windows..i'm frustrated with ubuntu
[20:18] <NoobFan> MonkeyDust: what might be the problem?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> NoobFan  we need to know *something*, in order to help
[20:19] <NoobFan> MonkeyDust: sorry to bother u with out details brother.. bye :)
[20:20] <Blink`> jmadero_away - Ty, but is there a decent guide for me to follow? Been trying, but I have no idea if the private key works
[20:22] <sruli> i have a problem with my display driver, i get very bad graphics, when i remove the driver graphics is fine but i lose my mouse pointer, what generic driver can i use? intel hd i915 its using driver xorg-intel-wily-lts
[20:24] <jokke> hi
[20:24] <jokke> i need to install GObject in version >= 2.40
[20:25] <jokke> what are my options?
[20:30] <jokke> i'm on ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[20:32] <TimSchumi> I can't say much about 12.04 because I have 14.04, but in my Package Sources there is a package named gobject-introspection
[20:44] <ocram> Ciao
[20:44] <ocram> list!
[20:45] <k1l_> ocram: no warez here
[20:45] <jmadero_away> Blink`: you make any progress (I'm in and out doing real work)
[20:45] <ocram> Ok
[20:47] <jmadero_away> Blink`: this guide is pretty straight forward (it's amazing how many guides have inadequate, overly complicated steps): https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-ssh-keys--2
[20:50] <pedrito> what's the best way to remove a metapackage alone, dpkg -r --force-all package?
[21:02] <lmtd> i was considering getting a small laptop (13.3") with ubuntu pre-installed and a norwegian keyboard, however i can only find the dell xps which is too costly as i will only be using it for web (mail, surfing, news, youtube, etc) and office tools. is the Aquaris M10 FHD Ubuntu Edition featured on ubuntu's frontpage a viable alternative? or should i just get some cheap machine with windows on it and hope it's compatible with ubuntu?
[21:05] <Elec_A> Hello, I have installed TeamViewer and it starts automatically at startup. I want to know where it has put any script to do that? I couldn't find it in gnome-session-properties and even in /etc/init.d /
[21:05] <Fuchs> /etc/xdg/autostart/   probably
[21:07] <Elec_A> Fuchs: There is not any files that includes teamviewer in its name.
[21:07] <k1l_> Elec_A: in /etc/init ?
[21:09] <k1l_> Elec_A: what ubuntu and what desktop is that exactly?
[21:09] <Elec_A> k1l_: there is a file called teamviewerd.conf. and its data is http://paste.opensuse.org/11493004.
[21:09] <Elec_A> is it the one ?
[21:09] <Elec_A> k1l_: aforementioned file is in /etc/init/
[21:10] <Elec_A> k1l_: I'm using ubuntu 14.04 and unity.
[21:10] <k1l_> Elec_A: that is the upstart script to start it
[21:10] <Elec_A> k1l_: ohhh, Thank you so much.
[21:16] <Starxman> i need your guys help, when is the best time of day to run away from home?
[21:17] <k1l_> Starxman: this channels focus is technical ubuntu support
[21:18] <Starxman> okay fine then!!!
[21:26] <Geo> I was running a bash script and watching the output- my connetion dropped, but the script is still running- can I somehow get back 'in' to the output of that script, so that I can watch the status?
[21:27] <SchrodingersScat> Geo: if you were in a screen you can screen -ls to see which are available
[21:28] <Geo> I'm going to say no
[21:28] <SchrodingersScat> tmux?
[21:28] <Geo> it was ssh
[21:29] <SchrodingersScat> Geo: would check if it's still running with ps aux
[21:30] <Geo> it is
[21:30] <Geo> I just want to see the output
[21:36] <Geo> its on pts/0 .. .cant I redirect that to pts/1 ?
[21:40] <Loshki> Geo: without screen or vnc, it's unsupported, and if it were supported, I think it might be a glaring security hole.
[21:43] <TJ-> Geo: what are you trying to do (I came in after you described the issue)? If you're just trying to reparent a tty, try using 'reptyr'
[21:43] <dax> TJ-: they were running a script remotely and connection dropped. they reconnected and it's still running but on a different pty and they want to get the output
[21:44] <Geo> yep
[21:44] <TJ-> !info reptyr | Geo
[21:44] <Geo> thanks
[22:05] <ThePendulum_> 'lo
[22:14] <boriseto> Hello, is there a way to use hibernate in 14.04 without having a swap partition? I've found some suggestions, but there are some unclear things there for me...
[22:15] <totaleclipse> I just installed the ATI proprietary drivers and now im getting pretty bad screen tearing. Is there any way to fix this?
[22:18] <k1l> boriseto: you need a swap file if you dont have a swap partition.
[22:20] <boriseto> k1l, I see, so I guess with this "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024 count=8M"  I'll create the swap file, right? What does count=8M stand for? that's the memory, right?
[22:21] <dax> boriseto: "write 1024 bytes at a time, 8 million times"
[22:21] <k1l> boriseto: it is for the amount of swap you will need. just use "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1G count=4"  and set "count=" to equal your ram size. in this example that would mean you have 4 GB ram
[22:22] <boriseto> dax, k1l , got it, thank you very much
[22:32] <eelstrebor> why is it that glibconfig.h appears in the /usr/lib tree and not in the /usr/include tree?
[22:33] <eelstrebor> looks like i have all the glib development packages installed
[22:33] <[Saint]> boriseto: I'm just gonna go ahead and risk putting it out there and people yelling at me and circlejerking - but, you probably don't need a swapfile at all.
[22:34] <[Saint]> depending on the host, you might even want to avoid swapping at all costs.
[22:34] <eelstrebor> one would think that if you have >= 32 GB of memory that you wouldn't need a swap file
[22:34] <[Saint]> considerably less.
[22:34] <[Saint]> assuming an average Joe User type user.
[22:35] <[Saint]> Anyway - I just don't like this "you need a swapfile" bullcrap.
[22:35] <[Saint]> Because it is just that, complete bull.
[22:35] <eelstrebor> you might depending on what you're doing
[22:35] <Fuchs> [Saint]: read again why he asked in the first place
[22:35] <Fuchs> he wants to use S4, which requires either swap or a swapfile
[22:36] <Fuchs> you'd be wrong anyway, but in this case very much so
[22:36] <boriseto> [Saint], o...k :), the thing is that I find it convenient to have hibernation, but I don't have a swap partition...
[22:36] <boriseto> [Saint], so I can't find any other way to do it
[22:36] <vladislav> hi guys'
[22:37] <[Saint]> It's not like you can't hibernate without a conventional swap.
[22:37] <[Saint]> But woe betide me for interrupting.
[22:39] <boriseto> [Saint] -_- (had to google the term cause it's the first time for me seeing it in use). How can I hibernate without conventional swap?
[22:39] <[Saint]> uswsusp is the obvious one that springs to mind.
[22:39] <Fuchs> which requires a swapfile
[22:40] <Fuchs> which is what he is creating
[22:42]  * eelstrebor wonders how well uswsusp functions - i see it in the repository
[22:45] <[Saint]> well, it works.
[22:46] <TJ-> eelstrebor: your original question re: glibconfig.h ... because there are different versions for different architectures, and /usr/include is arch:all
[22:47] <TJ-> eelstrebor: the :i386 and :amd64 versions of the libglib2.0-dev package  each have glibconfig.h
[22:47] <[Saint]> I generally avoid such setups, though, save for a laptop with a very indecisive battery where I have it setup to suspend to RAM and swap, because suspend to RAM gets negated by the system thinking it depletes its battery occasionally.
[22:48] <eelstrebor> TJ-, thanks - i think i may have found a solution to my problem using pkg-config
[22:48] <dax> i'm not sure "i don't like hibernate" is relevant to a support question about how to hibernate
[22:48] <[Saint]> cool story - but, who said such a thing?
[22:48]  * eelstrebor needs to create a cheat sheet for all these utilities - it's sometimes a pain to build programs from source without them
[22:49] <Guest10617> hey, can someone tell me what the process Xorg is for?
[22:49] <TJ-> eelstrebor: or use the Debian packaging to wrap updated sources, and then just do "fakeroot debian/rules binary"
[22:50] <dax> Guest10617: it puts graphics on your screen, basically
[22:50] <k1l> Guest10617: basically to run the GUI
[22:50] <eelstrebor> TJ-, lots to learn and i hope i'll be able to remember it all
[22:52] <Guest10617> okay thank you
[22:56]  * Fuchs licks dax
[22:56] <boriseto> Couldn't connect it properly (even though I have a swap file and the system seems to use it). I guess, for the next time, I'll just create a swap partition. :|
[22:59] <Fuchs> boriseto: actually the system should not be using it, you have to disable that, at least for uwsusp
[22:59] <Fuchs> boriseto: see https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation/Hibernate_Without_Swap_Partition
[22:59] <boriseto> Fuchs, I see, so just a swapoff -a shoud do it?
[23:00] <Fuchs> boriseto: but yes, I recommend a swap partition. Consider shrinking an existing partition, ext should be feasible
[23:01] <boriseto> Fuchs, thanks, will look into it.
[23:01] <arce> hi, I am new for ubuntu and kubuntu, can someone explain me, what are the benefits for swap partition?
[23:01] <Fuchs> arce: you need one if you want to suspend to disk
[23:02] <arce> what do you mean to suspend to disk?
[23:02] <Fuchs> arce: aside from that: when your RAM runs full, swap will be used before the out of memory killer goes and randomly kills processes, some of which you might rather not want killed
[23:02] <Fuchs> arce: S4, it's a power save state usually found in mobile devices such as laptops. Also called hibernate.
[23:02] <arce> Fuchs: thanks for the answer, more clear now
[23:02] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[23:07] <cliffer> i have problems using ldap2dns, it cant connect to any server (using -h localhost; netstat -tulpen shows 389 is open) or returns "ldap_sasl_bind: Assertion `ld != ((void *)0)' failed." (using -h ldap:///). any idea?
[23:21] <New2Linux> Hi guys
[23:21] <New2Linux> I face a problem when I try to install this program (wolf's cpuminer)
[23:21] <New2Linux> and this is the link to download its source :
[23:21] <New2Linux> https://github.com/wolf9466/cpuminer-multi/archive/master.zip
[23:22] <New2Linux> it is a software to mine crypto currencies using cpu
[23:22] <New2Linux> this software depends on 2 things : 1- libcurl4-gnutls-dev (which depends on libcurl3-gnutls version "7.22.5") 2- C library called (jansson)
[23:23] <New2Linux> I use Ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) on 32-bit cpu(x86) and my (/etc/apt/sources.list) is configured correctly so I can locate the needed packages to install the two libraries that listed above
[23:23] <New2Linux> but when I try to excuate (sudo apt-get update) then (sudo apt-get install libcurl4-gnutls-dev) I read something like this on my terminal:
[23:24] <New2Linux> unable to install for unmet dependcies
[23:24] <New2Linux> libcurl4-gnutls-dev depends on: libcurl3-gnutls (7.22.5) but it is not going to be installed
[23:24] <New2Linux> ----and a lot of similar lines----
[23:24] <dvdmuckle> try `sudo apt-get install -f`
[23:24] <New2Linux> I've tried to use --fix-missing and -f switches but it didn't work
[23:25] <dvdmuckle> oh
[23:25] <New2Linux> it seems that there is a recent version (7.35.XX) of the (libcurl3-gnutls) installed on my distro so it conflicts with the old one (7.22.5) that I try to install and when I tried to uninstall it and install  the old needed one(7.22.5) I've failed
[23:25] <zz> doesn't aptitude fix these things automaticly?
[23:26] <New2Linux> No
[23:26] <New2Linux> please guys try to install this software on a VM machine and let me know if you get it worked and how did you do that.
[23:26] <New2Linux> NOTE : If you want to try to install this program you have to install autoconf first through:
[23:26] <New2Linux> >sudo apt-get install autoconf
[23:27] <New2Linux> and then (inside the source folder):
[23:27] <New2Linux> >chmod 777 ./configure.ac
[23:27] <TJ-> !info libcurl3-gnutls trusty
[23:28] <New2Linux> NOTE 2 : I know that it's not profitable to mine on cpu but now I consider installing this program as my challenge because my brother who uses Microsoft Windows 8 OS is criticizing me for using a hard-to-use OS [ as he said not me :) ] such Linux Ubuntu and I want to prove to him that installing softwares on linux is not a hard thing at all so this my main target and I don't care for money because I know that it's not profitable
[23:28] <TJ-> !info libcurl4-gnutls-dev trusty
[23:29] <New2Linux> I know that but the cpuminer wants the old version 7.22.5
[23:29] <New2Linux> and I don't konw why!
[23:30] <New2Linux> so how can I install the old one (7.22.5)
[23:30] <TJ-> New2Linux: you don't
[23:30] <New2Linux> know
[23:31] <New2Linux> it's just a typo sorry
[23:31] <TJ-> New2Linux: you'll need to build the package against the system's libraries
[23:32] <New2Linux> ok but how can I do that
[23:32] <New2Linux> I think that I have to uninstall the 7.35 first then istall the old one (7.22.5)
[23:33] <New2Linux> but where can I get it ?
[23:33] <TJ-> New2Linux: For Trusty 14.04, libcurl4-gnutls-dev (7.35.0-1ubuntu2.6) depends on libcurl3-gnutls (= 7.35.0-1ubuntu2.6)  - if your system claims something else then the packages are out-of-date, or you've installed from somewhere else
[23:33] <New2Linux> is there a link for the old .deb
[23:33] <TJ-> New2Linux: libcurl4-gnutls-dev (7.22.0-3ubuntu4.15) is from 12.04 Precise, not 14.04 Trusty
[23:33] <TJ-> !info libcurl4-gnutls-dev precise
[23:34] <TJ-> New2Linux: so you've either got your system stuck between releases (12.04 > 14.04) or you've mis-read something
[23:35] <New2Linux> I have tried to install it on my 14.04 using the 12.04 precise repositories but it failed
[23:35] <TJ-> New2Linux: well, that would break the system
[23:36] <New2Linux> I comment the old lines in the sources.list file
[23:36] <New2Linux> and entered the lines of the 12.04 precise repositories
[23:37] <TJ-> New2Linux: right, which has broken the Trusty install because you've mixed incompatible package versions, which is NOT supported
[23:37] <New2Linux> ok what should i do in this case
[23:38] <New2Linux> I don't have the 12.04 and I don't want to install it
[23:38] <New2Linux> why I can't enforce my distro to use the repositories of ubuntu 12.04
[23:39] <New2Linux> is there anyway to do that or I have to install the ubuntu 12.04 on my pc
[23:41] <New2Linux> I'm sorry because I've asked you a lot of questions but I'm really new to linux and I don't konw much about it
[23:41] <New2Linux> and what I can do with linux and what I can't
[23:42] <New2Linux> do you have a link to download the 12.04 precise version?
[23:42] <morph-> New2Linux the question is, what do YOU want to do?
[23:43] <morph-> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[23:43] <New2Linux> I want to use the repositories of 12.04 on my ubuntu 14.04
[23:43] <popey> New2Linux: don't do that
[23:43] <New2Linux> Why?????
[23:44] <zykotick9> New2Linux: while this link is designed for debian, much of it applies to ubuntu as well https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian when you added 12.04's repos to your 14.04 system, you created an Frankenbuntu
[23:44] <popey> New2Linux: not a wise idea to use unsupported old debs on a newer release
[23:45] <antiPoP> hi
[23:45] <New2Linux> so I can't use old softwares on my recent version of ubuntu
[23:45] <Jordan_U> New2Linux: Mining cryptocurrencies via CPU will literally cost you much more in electricity bills than you will make, and for bitcoin you are literally going to make nothing without dedicated GPU based hardware. Things have changed.
[23:45] <popey> New2Linux: the better thing to do is get a newer and supported version of the software you're running
[23:45] <popey> (also, what Jordan_U says, you won't make money)
[23:45] <New2Linux> I know that it's not profitable to mine on cpu but now I consider installing this program as my challenge because my brother who uses Microsoft Windows 8 OS is criticizing me for using a hard-to-use OS [ as he said not me :) ] such Linux Ubuntu and I want to prove to him that installing softwares on linux is not a hard thing at all so this my main target and I don't care for money because I know that it's not profitable to mine o
[23:45] <antiPoP> I need an image viewer where I can click on one image, and the navigate through the other images on that dir. What do you suggest?
[23:46] <popey> New2Linux: you're failing at that goal :)
[23:46] <popey> New2Linux: pick a better thing to demo
[23:46] <New2Linux> oh no
[23:46] <popey> New2Linux: basically get a newer miner, not that specific one. it's simple really
[23:47] <popey> that one is 2 years old and not built for your newer version
[23:47] <Jordan_U> New2Linux: Use something available in the default repositories like cgminer. "sudo apt-get install cgminer"
[23:47] <New2Linux> but there isn't a newer version so what I can do in this case
[23:48] <popey> New2Linux: use something else
[23:48] <popey> New2Linux: trust us on this one.
[23:48] <bazhang_> try #eligius
[23:48] <New2Linux> ok
[23:48] <New2Linux> but what is "Frankenbuntu"?
[23:48] <zykotick9> New2Linux: mixing releases is bad...  that's the message ;)
[23:48] <New2Linux> is it a distro?
[23:49] <New2Linux> Ok I'm sorry because I'm an Arab guy
[23:49] <popey> New2Linux: it's a joke.
[23:50] <New2Linux> Ok I'm sorry because I'm an Arab guy so I can't understand the Western English jokes
[23:50] <popey> :)
[23:50] <zykotick9> New2Linux: sorry.
[23:51] <New2Linux> don't worry
[23:51] <New2Linux> it's my fault not yours
[23:52] <New2Linux> really you're very helpful good guys thanks very much for your help and your joke ;)
[23:52] <squinty> New2Linux,  grab a 12.04 iso -> do a full install to a 16 gig usb stick-> access your program from the stick
[23:52] <squinty> New2Linux,  just a thought
[23:53] <New2Linux> ok I will try everything to win the challenge with my brother
[23:54] <New2Linux> it's a principle matter
[23:55] <Jordan_U> New2Linux: What's wrong with using cgminer?
[23:55] <New2Linux> where can I get this iso file? because you know it's too old version
[23:55] <New2Linux> I have an ATI card and I hear that it works only with Nvidia
[23:56] <New2Linux> so cgminer is not useful for me
[23:57] <squinty> New2Linux, !12.04
[23:57] <squinty> !12.04
[23:58] <squinty> New2Linux,  or use this link  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[23:58] <New2Linux> and I don't kow if cgminer will work with the cryptonight (or cryptonote) hashing algorithm
[23:59] <New2Linux> btw, do you know that algorithm is an Arabic word