[08:38] <moparisthebest> ok cpk1 thanks for all the help, I have to get some sleep though :)
[08:38] <moparisthebest> Ill google around tommorow and see what I can come up with :P
[08:39] <Ace2016> i like the preview minimised windows in beryl, its live vista
[08:39] <cpk1> moparisthebest: well theoritically as soon as you find the digital out device it should be as easy as telling your media players to use that device
[08:39] <dewitts> hey is there any one in here thats relaly good with openoffice?
[08:39] <kyle_> Yeah, but Beryl won't work in the first place.
[08:40] <kyle_> I am pretty good...
[08:40] <kyle_> What do ya need?
[08:40] <dewitts> I have like 900 rows, that contain links in them, but I want to make them all clickable really quick, instead of doing down through every single one, and manuall doing it? Cuase I'm saving this to a .html file.
[08:40] <pointy> kyle_: have you tried following that guide - seems pretty straight forward
[08:41] <kyle_> Try a CTRL+A and right click. I think there was a "Format as link" option. Or click the formatting bar, and link.
[08:41] <kyle_> Something like that.
[08:41] <kyle_> I am working on it. Pointy.
[08:41] <dewitts> kyle_: u talking to me?
[08:42] <kyle_> Yes. I was.
[08:42] <dewitts> I don't see format as link option
[08:42] <dewitts> i do have that on the bar though hold on
[08:43] <dewitts> hmm
[08:43] <dewitts> lol don't have that either
[08:45] <sparr> how can i run different java apps with different JVMs?
[08:45] <pointy> kyle_: from what I've googled around, it should work with your vid card
[08:45] <kyle_> :D
[08:45] <kyle_> That's awesome.
[08:46] <kyle_> Kinda.
[08:46] <kyle_> Well, if it worked it would be.
[08:46] <kyle_> Still workin on installin it.
[08:46] <kyle_> Sorry Dewitts.
[08:46] <kyle_> I don't know what to say.
[08:46] <Ace2016> dewitts: do the links all point to the same place? if so i have an idea
[08:47] <dewitts> yes
[08:47] <dewitts> ace2016
[08:47] <dewitts> I can send you the file, and show itt o you relaly quick
[08:48] <dewitts> its just important i get this done
[08:48] <dewitts> really important
[08:48] <dewitts> I know there has to be some way of doing it though
[08:48] <dewitts> instead of going through there, and clicking on each one manuall, I mean the links are already there
[08:49] <Ace2016> dewitts: edit one of the links to be what you want it to be, then leave the rest the same, save it as an html file, then open it in something like kwrite or kate and to edit > replace and then replace an already exsisting part with the part being replaced and the new bit, so replace <bla> with <bla> so that it looks like the one you changed
[08:49] <morphius_> in iptables: is it possible to forward a port to all addresses on a subnet (rather than select an ip address at random as is done with the -to-destination start-range end-range switch)?
[08:51] <dewitts> k
[08:52] <dewitts> ace2016: what was you saying, I would still have to manually do all that?
[08:52] <dewitts> ain't there a way to just have them all as hyperlinks?
[08:52] <pointy> do the feisty desktop iso cd's (the milestone cd's) work as liveCD's too?
[08:54] <francis_> bonjour a tous
[08:54] <Ace2016> find and replace and then replace all, that'd do it
[08:55] <Ace2016> can i see the file? could you upload it to somewhere?
[08:58] <dewitts> yea hold on
[08:58] <dewitts> uploading it now
[08:58] <dewitts> apperciate you helping
[08:58] <dewitts> cuase i can't figure this out and its important i get it done
[09:02] <dewitts> Ace2016: you there
[09:02] <dewitts> Ace2016: http://www.indianawebsitedesign.net/text.csv
[09:02] <Ace2016> yup
[09:02] <dewitts> i just uplaoded it to my server
[09:03] <Ace2016> So what are you trying to do with all the links?
[09:04] <dewitts> make them clickable
[09:04] <dewitts> i need to save it to a .html file
[09:04] <mortici> can i add a fiesty version of a repo so i can get the latest samba?
[09:04] <dewitts> hyperlinks
[09:04] <dewitts> but as of right now
[09:05] <dewitts> there not, there just text, but I'm trying to make all them hyperlinks, so I can open them up in firefox, or there clickable in firefox anyways, I have 1000's of them
[09:06] <dewitts> any idea?
[09:06] <stdin> mortici: that is not reccommended and could make your system unusable
[09:06] <Ace2016> not really, but i'll give it a go
[09:07] <mortici> stdin
[09:07] <mortici> i just need the latest samba, thats all
[09:08] <mortici> after that id get rid of the repo
[09:09] <dewitts> ace2016: i know theres got to be a way to do it lol
[09:09] <stdin> mortici: the latest samba depends on things that aren't in edgy, so they will be installed, and there is a change in the default python version, so that will have to install python and all those dependencies. It really could mess your system up. But if you want to take the risk you can do it
[09:10] <mortici> damn it
[09:10] <mortici> nvm
[09:10] <mortici> i just read an article
[09:11] <mortici> that basically says that you cant access vista shares from linux, not untill the samba devs re work the code :/ sad part is OSX and other versions of windows work just fine :/
[09:17] <mike__> how do i mount ntfs with read/write enabled?
[09:17] <stdin> !ntfs-3g | mike__
[09:17] <ubotu> mike__: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:18] <mike__> stdin: still in beta?
[09:18] <stdin> yeah, but it's that or read-only
[09:19] <mike__> stdin: ok thanx
[09:19] <stdin> np
[09:23] <Ace2016> dewitts: I did it
[09:24] <Ace2016> dewitts: u there?
[09:24] <Ace2016> well here is how i did it
[09:24] <Ace2016> i saved a backup of the file
[09:24] <Ace2016> opened it up in kwrite
[09:25] <Ace2016> press Ctrl + R
[09:25] <dbglt> hi everyone... I have a line in my /etc/fstab for a drive I would like mounted on startup... but it doesn't mount it, I have to manually type mount
[09:25] <dbglt> is there anything else I need to do to have it mount at boot time?
[09:26] <Ace2016> Text to find: "^..,"    (without the "") and tick regular expression and in the replacement text box just put a single space
[09:26] <bls> bonjour
[09:26] <bls> ca va bien  ?
[09:27] <Ace2016> dewitts: then in the options remove from cursor and prompt on replace
[09:27] <kyle_> Blarg
[09:27] <caris_mere> I am trying to backup my home folder, but keep always gives me an error
[09:27] <Ace2016> dewitts: Then press replace
[09:27] <tanlaan> anyone know of an editor for the KDE GUI?
[09:27] <Ace2016> dewitts: It'll replace all the random numbers
[09:28] <Ace2016> dewitts: the random numbers at the start,
[09:28] <tanlaan> Like how they have editors for the windows GUI so you can COMPLETLY change how it looks, making it even as simple as a blue background with a labeled internet shortcut/button
[09:30] <Ace2016> dewitts: now press ctrl+r again, find text: ("free",")   everything in the brackets including the "" and replacement text should be: (<a href=")
[09:30] <Ace2016> dewitts: then press replace
[09:31] <Ace2016> dewitts: now press Ctrl+r and put for the find text: (",4) then as the replacement text: (">Free)  Then press replace
[09:31] <Ace2016> dewitts: then stick in all the normal html stuff and your done
[09:31] <caris_mere> anybody using a backup program? I need some help
[09:34] <Ace2016> dewitts: here is the finished file: http://www.speedyshare.com/931850394.html
[09:46] <surgy> yuriy: are you around?
[09:47] <nodesert> is there anyone who knows how to open a shell with eclipse
[09:53] <boss_78> Hello
[09:53] <boss_78> I have a question about Feisty Faw
[09:53] <surgy> hi
[09:53] <Ace2016> hi
[09:53] <surgy> !ask
[09:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:55] <boss_78> Will the acceleration 3D of my driver s3 Savage4 be supported?
[09:56] <boss_78> ?
[09:57] <stdin> boss_78: for questions about Feisty, you should go to #ubuntu+1
[09:57] <mohammed> can i use kopete to access @live accounts ?
[09:57] <boss_78> Ok thank you
[10:03] <blue|palm> What can i do if knetworkmanager does not find any wireless networks, but wireless lan assitant does?
[10:13] <blue|palm> What can i do if knetworkmanager does not find any wireless networks, but wireless lan assitant does?
[10:14] <seven11> how can i boot kubuntu in verbosse mode
[10:16] <seven11> how can i disable the boot splash
[10:17] <abattoir> seven11: remove 'quiet' from the 'kernel' option in the appropriate entry of your menu.lst file
[10:17] <abattoir> seven11: 'splash' too, if you don't want the boot splash
[10:17] <seven11> menu.lst where
[10:18] <abattoir> seven11: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:18] <seven11> thanks
[10:19] <renato> Hi all, do yo know is there is a 32 bit odbc package for ubuntu amd64?
[10:19] <cpk1> how would I set it up so my iptables rules get remembered? /sbin/iptables-restore /etc/network/iptables.rules in /etc/rc.local doesnt seem to be doing it
[10:21] <Linux_Galore> one question, is there a seperate repo for perl packages, I seem to be missing allot of modules
[10:22] <shad-99> Hi all, Could some one teach me how to install vlc to my kubuntu? i am a newbie on this linux
[10:22] <Linux_Galore> DateTime/Format/DateManip.pm  cant be found,hmm
[10:22] <Linux_Galore> shad-99: lots of luck wioth that question i had to do a 2 hour class for that one
[10:23] <shad-99> hahah ok thanks
[10:23] <nodesert> shad-99 did you try "sudo aptitude install vlc"
[10:23] <shad-99> i thought this linux was a piece of cake to install stuffs like windows.. but it sucks when it comes to that?
[10:24] <Linux_Galore> shad-99: no very easy to install, just fiddly to setup
[10:24] <Linux_Galore> shad-99: just use adept
[10:24] <Linux_Galore> to install vlc
[10:25] <shad-99> yes i have tried that but i can't find vlc in ther anywhere?
[10:25] <Linux_Galore> shad-99: it means you dont have all the repo's setup
[10:25] <NightBird> is there a way to tell kubuntu to ignore certain packages for being removed?  like I use the freeglut library development stuff, but nothing else depends on it, so it always adds it to the list to be removed on auto clean..
[10:25] <Linux_Galore> shad-99: adedpt can only see whats on the package servers that you have setup
[10:27] <shad-99> no i haven't tried that sudo aptitude install vlc yet? .. don't know much about commands in linux.. im a fraid? :S
[10:27] <abattoir> !info vlc
[10:27] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[10:27] <abattoir> !repos > shad-99
[10:27] <shad-99> damn it's hard to learn.. lol
[10:27] <abattoir> shad-99: follow that guide
[10:27] <Linux_Galore> NightBird: aptitude hold package_name
[10:28] <abattoir> shad-99: it's just different, compared to windows, yes, there are things to learn, but it's not that hard :)
[10:28] <seven11> abattoir: worked thanks
[10:28] <abattoir> seven11: great :)
[10:29] <harmental> hey guys....how can i associate tex file to kile?
[10:29] <abattoir> shad-99: after you're done enabling the universe/multiverse repos(after reading that guide), you'll have most software you need installable from one place, Adept
[10:29] <abattoir> including vlc
[10:29] <Linux_Galore> NightBird: or if you use apt       echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections
[10:30] <ydb> bonjour
[10:31] <Linux_Galore> harmental: open konqueror   Settings -> Configure Konqueror , then  look for file associations, then enter tex  in the search box top right
[10:31] <harmental> Linux_Galore: thx!
[10:31] <Linux_Galore> harmental: have to set kile as the default app for that file type
[10:32] <jackson> would this line only suit gnome?...sudo cp /etc/gtk/gtkrc.zh_TW /etc/gtk/gtkrc.zh_TW.utf-8? thanx
[10:32] <DarkWizdom> hi guys! can anyone tell me how do I add a cd rom to sources.list?
[10:34] <premier_> hey, k3b wont work for me unless I sudo it.  Is that normal and can I fix that?
[10:34] <Linux_Galore> DarkWizdom: sudo apt-cdrom add
[10:34] <Linux_Galore> premier_: run   sudo k3b-setup   and add you default user to the user list
[10:35] <Linux_Galore> your*
[10:35] <laosboyme> ss
[10:35] <DarkWizdom> thanks! :)
[10:37] <Linux_Galore> premier_: basically you havent given a set user permission to use k3b
[10:37] <laosboyme> How to intsall amsn CVS subversion?
[10:37] <laosboyme> somebody?
[10:38] <blue|palm> What can i do if knetworkmanager does not find any wireless networks, but wireless lan assitant does?
[10:38] <Linux_Galore> laosboyme: cvs variants are usually buggy and if you asking that question you shouldnt be trying to install it
[10:40] <renato> Hi all, do yo know is there is a 32 bit odbc package for ubuntu amd64?
[10:41] <jackson> anyone here know about making chinese readable on multimedia player? a long shot i know but thanx
[10:44] <abattoir> jackson: which multimedia player?
[10:46] <jackson> xmms / amarok / juk ..just one of them can read chinese on its playlist would be very helpful...i tried xmms n it would show for only 1sec then back to unreadable symbols?...thanx abottoir
[10:47] <abattoir> jackson: i think it depends on the encoding that you are using...
[10:47] <jackson> abottoir: i did this line in console..sudo cp /etc/gtk/gtkrc.zh_TW /etc/gtk/gtkrc.zh_TW.utf-8
[10:48] <jackson> or is that not applicable in kubuntu as it was a ubuntu forum i copied?
[10:48] <abattoir> jackson: it should work w/ gtk applications(xmms etc.), not qt applications like amarok/juk
[10:49] <jackson> encoding i m using...? can u explain further?
[10:50] <fdoving> Jucato: hi, i'm around now. you called my name?
[10:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> if I want every file of a certain type to open VLC media player, but I want it to open in the terminal with the arguements '-I skins2' how do I do that?
[10:51] <jackson> abattoir: would it help if i changed the system lang. to chinese?
[10:52] <abattoir> jackson: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales'
[10:53] <abattoir> jackson: and select the UTF version of your current local
[10:53] <abattoir> en_US.UTF-8 for example
[10:56] <bls> bonjour y a des francais ici ?
[10:56] <premier_> I have k3b installed but "sudo k3b-setup" returns a command not found error
[10:56] <premier_> !fr > bls
[10:57] <premier_> that doesnt work anymore?
[10:57] <premier_> !fr
[10:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:57] <premier_> there we go!
[10:57] <jackson>  what command should i select the UTF version of my current local once i typed "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"
[11:10] <fede> Hello.
[11:11] <fede> Got a problem with Synaptic and Sun Java 5
[11:11] <fede> At 5% a GUI interface oepens and cannot click
[11:11] <fede> on the "acept"
[11:11] <fede> so the installation does not preceed
[11:11] <fede> and it locks everything
[11:12] <fede> Any ideas?
[11:12] <fede> They would be appreciated.
[11:16] <jordo23> !version
[11:16] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[11:18] <jibowen> hello who can help me about upnp
[11:19] <jibowen> hello who can help me about upnp
[11:19] <moshea> hi all .... what's a good vnc server to use under KDE ?
[11:20] <moshea> krfb/kdrc are non-starters for me .... too slow over the inernet
[11:20] <NightBird> ok, I'm trying to compile a program that includes from a file "GL/glxtokens.h"... what package do I need to install for me to be able to compile it?
[11:21] <NightBird> sadly enough, it didn't detect it as an unmet dependency, so I don't know waht to do...
[11:24] <moshea> what's a good vnc server to use under KDE ?
[11:26] <baro> hallo
[11:27] <crazy_bus> I wan't the view the video here http://www.celtx.com/walkthru/feature_over.html .  But it won't play without the recent flash version.  Is the only way to view it to install propietry software?  Or is there someway to download it and the convert it to ogg?
[11:28] <pi1l> hello! who can show me xorg.conf, configured for dual monitors, please?
[11:29] <shad-99> Vlc package is not in synaptic list anywhere..  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:30] <abattoir> !language | shad-99
[11:30] <ubotu> shad-99: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:31] <shad-99> ok sorry guy's! :(
[11:31] <abattoir> shad-99: be patient and read, if you don't understand anything, ask, i'll be glad to help
[11:31] <emav> Hi there! I'm using firefox under kubuntu. I've noticed that I cannot enter special characters (e.g. polytonic Greek) in textboxes. Has anybody else had the same problem?
[11:31] <shad-99> thanks m8.. im a little bit frustrating here..  :S
[11:31] <abattoir> shad-99: it's ok, i understand :)
[11:32] <abattoir> shad-99: it's simple, read the guide, and enable the universe and multiverse repositories, once you are done, search for vlc and install... i thought you'd have finished all that by now
[11:32] <shad-99> it is to much to get into my brain.. i have been into windows enviroment for 22 years.. but this i tuff business? :S
[11:32] <abattoir> shad-99: it's just different, that's all
[11:33] <shad-99> hahaha sure is :)
[11:33] <abattoir> shad-99: just learn the basics, and you'll get along :)
[11:33] <Linux_Galore> hmm , were is the external taskbar hidden these days ?
[11:34] <Linux_Galore> its not in the applets list
[11:34] <shad-99> mmm .. don't get it.. so many directories in this linux root, that makes me wanna puke.. don't know what all dirs are fore really?
[11:34] <baro> chmd help
[11:34] <Linux_Galore> aaah found it
[11:34] <abattoir> shad-99: well, if you want to know, what each are, i can point to guides which explain...
[11:35] <baro> a store device mount on account
[11:37] <Jucato> fdoving: sorry, I was away that time. someone just mentioned that the upgrade guide (Dapper to Edgy) was outdated, that one of the commands was causing a database lockup.
[11:38] <pi1l> BusID       "AGP:01:00:0" - that is a line from xorg.conf for one video-out. what it will be for the second?
[11:39] <ubuntu> hi
[11:39] <baro> hallo
[11:40] <ubuntu> i tried to install beryl but something is gone wrong..and now when i start the PC it loads only the terminal
[11:40] <ubuntu> how can i restore my copy of kubuntu?
[11:40] <ubuntu> (sorry for my english)
[11:43] <ubuntu> how can i restore my copy of kubuntu?
[11:43] <ubuntu> yuhu
[11:44] <bomber>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[11:51] <zorglu_> !info strigi
[11:51] <ubotu> Package strigi does not exist in any distro I know
[11:57] <zorglu_> !strigi
[11:57] <ubotu> strigi is an application which index the files on your desktop. homepage: http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi/ package: http://strigi.sourceforge.net/index.php/Binary_packages
[11:58] <zorglu_> mmm im missing something
[11:58] <zorglu_> !info strigi-client
[11:58] <ubotu> strigi-client: Qt4 client for Strigi Desktop Search. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.8-2 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 212 kB
[11:58] <zorglu_> oh ok :)
[12:05] <xenol> plz which libdvdcss2 i need to install in order to get ability to play dvds? plx
[12:06] <xenol> plz which libdvdcss2 i need to install in order to get ability to play dvds? plx
[12:06] <zorglu_> ii  libdvdcss2            1.2.5-1
[12:06] <Jucato> !dvd
[12:06] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:06] <zorglu_> this is the one i got from a yesterday install
[12:06] <xenol> for dapper?
[12:06] <zorglu_> nope edgy
[12:07] <xenol> for dapper?
[12:07] <zorglu_> ok you like to repeat yourself :)
[12:08] <NightBird> xenol, try installing it... if it works, then it works, if not, remove it and ask again
[12:08] <Jucato> repeatability = the innate ability to repeat questions when not answered within 5 seconds
[12:08] <NightBird> poptart=food
[12:09] <xenol> lol srz  zorglu_
[12:10] <crazy_bus> I found the flash movie file I wanted to download in the cache of firefox.  However the file is in .swf format.  Unfortuantly ffmpeg2theora just outputs the audio of the file.  Is there anyway to fix this?
[12:11] <Danker> Hi
[12:11] <NightBird> crazy_bus, if you drag it to a web browser, does it all work?
[12:11] <Danker> How to force removal of package?
[12:11] <NightBird> apt-get remove?
[12:12] <Danker> Without any error handling
[12:12] <Danker> Just vanish it...
[12:12] <crazy_bus> If I do that it plays, but without a progress bar
[12:12] <Danker> Doesnt work that
[12:12] <Danker> --purge doest help too...
[12:12] <Danker> dpkg with some option should help i think....
[12:14] <crazy_bus> Is there anyway to convert it to a more accesible format?
[12:16] <fdoving> Jucato: ok, please refer them to me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if i'm not around.
[12:17] <Jucato> fdoving: someone just told me that. I couldn't really confirm it. I think it was zorglu_, but he ain't here
[12:17] <hak5fan> Hi.. Is it possible to have different icons and taskbars on the different desktops in kde
[12:18] <fdoving> Jucato: ok. i haven't done any upgrades with recent edgy-updates, can't really say i know it works anymore.
[12:19] <shad-99> how do i edit sources.list with root command?
[12:20] <shad-99> i use gedit gui and i can't save the file  when i have edit it?
[12:20] <shad-99> i don't have permission?
[12:21] <Jucato> shad-99: in Kubuntu, it's "kdesu kate"
[12:21] <Dekans> shad-99: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:21] <shad-99> ok ... thanks m8 ;)
[12:21] <Jucato> hm... gksudo and gedit are both GNOME apps, so unless it's installed too
[12:22] <Dekans> Jucato: if he has gedit he must have gksudo too
[12:22] <hak5fan> Hi.. Is it possible to have different icons and taskbars on the different desktops in kde?
[12:22] <shad-99> gksudo doesn't work?
[12:23] <shad-99> command not found
[12:23] <Jucato> shad-99: use kdesu kate instead of gksudo gedit
[12:24] <shad-99> open it in gui or?
[12:24] <hak5fan> write in terminal sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:24] <Dekans> shad-99: kde or Gnome ?
[12:24] <Jucato> shad-99: Press Alt+F2, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:24] <Jucato> !kdesu
[12:24] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[12:25] <shad-99> ok i will try that.. :S
[12:27] <hak5fan> Is there a setting somewhere which makes it possible to have differnt taskbars and icons on the diffent desktops... In kde
[12:27] <martint> VNC connection reboot my machine, any idea?
[12:27] <ScarFreewill> i need help conecting php to mysql i've got the pakage install "php5-mysql"
[12:28] <martint> c <hak5fan>
[12:28] <martint>  <hak5fan> no that I know
[12:28] <hak5fan> ok
[12:29] <ScarFreewill1> i need help conecting php to mysql i've got the pakage install "php5-mysql"
[12:29] <knubbe> im gonna try to attach my mobile phone to kubuntu (yes, i know this is an issue and it probably wont work, but..). when its attched, how do i see this port its connected to? (/dev/....)
[12:29] <ScarFreewill1> and whats the parameter to speed lemit wget?
[12:30] <martint>  <ScarFreewill1> better take some existing PHP code and reuse it
[12:31] <ScarFreewill1> martint: i tried $conn = mysql_connect($dbhost, $dbuser, $dbpass)
[12:31] <ScarFreewill1> Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in $$$ on line ##
[12:31] <fairman> Hi, i need help to configure proftpd or vsftpd server, could somebody advice me? (I have Kubuntu 6.10)
[12:31] <fdoving> ScarFreewill1: --limit-rate=amount, for wget.
[12:31] <martint> and?
[12:31] <ScarFreewill1> fdoving: thx
[12:32] <ScarFreewill1> martint: i don't know how to connect them :P i don't know if the problem is my code or my server.... i really have no clue
[12:33] <ScarFreewill1> fdoving: is that in bytes?
[12:33] <martint>  <ScarFreewill1> I suggest you use some connection examples (like squirremail or phpMyadmin) to check if you wourl properly
[12:33] <fdoving> ScarFreewill1: 'man wget' for more info.
[12:34] <ScarFreewill1> martint: i know mysql works (phpmyadmin) i know php is working phpinfo()
[12:34] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to convert a flash video to ogg theora with ffmpeg2theora.  However for some reason with this particular file its only recognising the audio.  How do I fix this?
[12:35] <fdoving> ScarFreewill1: does it work of you load mysql.so ?
[12:35] <xenol> i  cant play wmv in kaffeine i  get wmvdmod.dll error
[12:35] <xenol> anz ideas?
[12:35] <xenol> got w32codecs installed
[12:35] <cathal> why on gods green earth do u need root to acess wireless assistant. Surely u should be able to view the local networks without needing root?
[12:36] <tsdgeos> anything that needs access to hardware needs root power
[12:36] <ScarFreewill1> fdoving: i don't know what you mean
[12:36] <fdoving> ScarFreewill1: dl('mysql.so');
[12:37] <martint> VNC connection reboot my machine, any idea?
[12:38] <ScarFreewill1> fdoving: dl('mysql.so');??? its not a console cmd ,,,/>?
[12:38] <fdoving> ScarFreewill1: it's php.
[12:38] <ScarFreewill1> fdoving: ok
[12:39] <ScarFreewill1> fdoving: it does not give any out put
[12:39] <Sean_Heron> hello
[12:39] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: hi
[12:39] <ScarFreewill1> ^-^
[12:40] <Sean_Heron> Can I ask a question ?
[12:40] <Sean_Heron> Or is something being discussed atm
[12:40] <Sean_Heron> ?
[12:40] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: no, go ahead
[12:40] <Sean_Heron> thanks :), well, I wanted to ask if there is any way to change back my graphics driver from the recovery mode
[12:41] <Sean_Heron> because since I changed it, it crashes on booting
[12:41] <Sean_Heron> (just before showing login window)
[12:41] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: when that happens i usually set myne to vesa
[12:41] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: (vesa the driver)
[12:42] <Sean_Heron> yes, that works
[12:42] <Sean_Heron> (vesa)
[12:42] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: so do want to know how to set it?
[12:42] <Sean_Heron> What I need to know is how to change to vesa from console :)
[12:42] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: ok
[12:42] <Sean_Heron> rightd :D
[12:42] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: when you get to the place where it should ask the login screen
[12:43] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: press cntl+alt+F1
[12:43] <Sean_Heron> thats kinda too lateish..
[12:43] <Sean_Heron> ah, ok
[12:43] <Sean_Heron> continue :)
[12:43] <ScarFreewill1> *ctrl
[12:44] <Sean_Heron> so I dont do recovery mode ?
[12:44] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: then your in the console, then tipe "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (or any other texteditor you like to use instead of nano)
[12:44] <Sean_Heron> ok
[12:44] <Sean_Heron> you german by any chance ?
[12:45] <Sean_Heron> Dann knntest du auch gerne auf deutsch schreiben :)
[12:45] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: ich spreeken nien deutsch
[12:45] <Sean_Heron> well, no worries :)
[12:45] <ScarFreewill1> (very very little ^^)
[12:46] <ubuntu_> =-
[12:46] <Sean_Heron> in xorg.conf, I guess Ill find an entry, with my driver name
[12:46] <Sean_Heron> and I have to change that to vesa ? yes ?
[12:46] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: yes
[12:46] <Sean_Heron> vim should do the job as well, right ?
[12:46] <ScarFreewill1> yes
[12:46] <ScarFreewill1> Section "Device"
[12:47] <ScarFreewill1>     Identifier     "Generic Video Card"
[12:47] <ScarFreewill1>     Driver         "vesa"
[12:47] <ScarFreewill1> EndSection
[12:47] <ScarFreewill1> you should change that...
[12:47] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: are you using dapper?
[12:47] <Sean_Heron> yes
[12:47] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: and nvidia?
[12:47] <Sean_Heron> no
[12:47] <Sean_Heron> ati
[12:48] <Sean_Heron> Radeon 9000
[12:48] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: i know 3 people that their drivers just stoped working in dapper
[12:48] <Sean_Heron> and they worked the version earlier ?
[12:48] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: yes
[12:49] <Sean_Heron> :/
[12:49] <Sean_Heron> well, I guess I could download that
[12:49] <Sean_Heron> any idea if it might be better with edgy ?
[12:49] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: i've been on egdy most of the time, and now that feisty herd 3 is out i'm downloading it
[12:49] <martint_> VNC connection reboot my machine, any idea?
[12:49] <Sean_Heron> Anyway, youve been a very good help, thank you
[12:50] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: i like edgy much more than dapper but i have a new gfx card so i don't know how edgy will treat you
[12:50] <Sean_Heron> Ill try changing back to vesa now, and Ill be back if I have any problems :)
[12:50] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: no prob
[12:50] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: ok cya
[12:50] <Sean_Heron> see you (hopefully not :D)
[12:50] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: ^-^
[12:52] <ScarFreewill1> what is the php command to connect to mysql?
[01:03] <bomber> if a file name has spaces in it what character takes the spaces place?
[01:04] <bomber> please
[01:04] <fdoving> bomber: like 'file name' -> file\ name
[01:04] <fdoving> you prepend the space with a \ to tell the system this is a space.
[01:05] <fdoving> or you can use "file name" without a \.
[01:05] <bomber> sweet.... thanks
[01:05] <sorin7486> dose anybody know any SQL channel ? ... I tried #SQL but people don't answer there
[01:07] <bomber> i dont.... sorry
[01:08] <sorin7486> ok ... thank you
[01:11] <Tido> this is completely unrelated, but does anyone know a tool that will look up a song and update it's id3 info?
[01:12] <fdoving> tido, like musicbrainz?
[01:13] <Tido> oo neat, thanks fdoving
[01:15] <fdoving> tido, amarok supports that too, not sure if you need to recompile or not though.. probably some legal issues with it.
[01:15] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:16] <devilsadvocate> hi... whenever i try to open a network stream my amarok tellem me that "no suitable input plugin is found" ... any ideas what is wrong?
[01:23] <stamen> hi
[01:23] <stamen> is KDE 3.5.6 final and stable
[01:23] <stamen> ?
[01:23] <stamen> hould I install
[01:25] <ScarFreewill2> stamen: i think it is
[01:26] <stamen> ok
[01:26] <ScarFreewill2> its on feisty heard 3 i don't think ppl would put it on there if its not stable
[01:26] <stamen> 10x
[01:26] <goodthing> Hmm, wondering. Is stuff like "Broken pipe: Underrun occurred" errors, when recording with audio enabled from the tool recordmydesktop something which can go in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspironXPSM1710 ?
[01:26] <stamen> ok, I will upgrade :)
[01:26] <ScarFreewill2> !kde
[01:26] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[01:26] <ScarFreewill2> odpm
[01:26] <ScarFreewill2> don't think that will help
[01:27] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[01:29] <Sean_Heron> hi, unfortunately, Im back :)
[01:30] <Sean_Heron> Hmm, is my friendly helper no longer here...
[01:31] <Sean_Heron> damn
[01:35] <kkosmo> somone
[01:35] <Sean_Heron> can anybody here tell me, why it might be that I dont have "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" ?
[01:35] <Sean_Heron> as in I dont have /X11
[01:36] <Jucato> not really sure why you wouldn't have that directory.
[01:36] <Jucato> try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xorg"?
[01:36] <capcom> possibly another window manager?
[01:37] <Jucato> no, X is not dependent on Window Manager
[01:37] <Sean_Heron> Ive installed kubuntu dapper from cd
[01:37] <Sean_Heron> ah ok :)
[01:37] <Sean_Heron> Ill try the reinstal, thanks
[01:38] <Sean_Heron> Its very nice how quickly You get help here :)
[01:38] <Sean_Heron> bye
[01:39] <dewitts> Ace2016: u there
[01:42] <korn>
[01:42] <Jucato> korn: what?
[01:46] <YumeNoEien> hi everyone
[01:47] <kkosmo> Jucato:
[01:47] <kkosmo> ?
[01:47] <Jucato> huh?
[01:47] <YumeNoEien> what?
[01:47] <kkosmo> are you know how i can make that the key shift+delete move the files to the trash
[01:48] <YumeNoEien> just dont use shift?
[01:49] <kkosmo> i cannt
[01:49] <Jucato> why?
[01:49] <YumeNoEien> kkosmo: is your keyboard broken?
[01:49] <Jucato> pressing the Del key only will move files to trash
[01:49] <kkosmo> dont know i just dont remember
[01:49] <kkosmo> to use delete
[01:49] <kkosmo> i use shift delete
[01:49] <kkosmo> like 5 years
[01:49] <anlux> hello ?
[01:49] <YumeNoEien> lol
[01:49] <kkosmo> its hard to change it
[01:49] <YumeNoEien> hi anlux
[01:49] <anlux> hi
[01:49] <YumeNoEien> k kkosmo
[01:50] <kkosmo> just help how i can change it
[01:50] <zorglu_> !build
[01:50] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:50] <YumeNoEien> remove one of your shift keys for a week
[01:50] <YumeNoEien> youl lose the habit
[01:50] <Jucato> kkosmo: in Konqueror -> Settings menu -> Configure Shortcuts, look for the "Move to Trash" entry and make sure it is set to the Delete key
[01:50] <YumeNoEien> i did the same with my window buttons
[01:50] <YumeNoEien> Hmm Jucato could you help me with something?
[01:51] <anlux> has anyone of you experience with banshee ? My banshee hangs during startup ..
[01:51] <Jucato> if I know how, yes.
[01:51] <YumeNoEien> i have a winmodem probelem
[01:51] <YumeNoEien> i allready went to
[01:51] <YumeNoEien> !winmodem
[01:51] <Jucato> oh.. that I don't know.. :(
[01:51] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[01:51] <YumeNoEien> aww
[01:52] <YumeNoEien> do you know anything about conflicting packages perhaps?
[01:52] <Jucato> hm... what's the situation?
[01:52] <YumeNoEien> wel i installed the driver as the ubuntu site told me to
[01:52] <YumeNoEien> but the modem doesnt work so i went to the package mngr
[01:53] <YumeNoEien> and it says "conflict: sl-modem-modules"
[01:54] <Jucato> YumeNoEien: um...  that "conflicts:" line just tells you that you can't have that package and sl-modem-modules installed at the same time. one of them has to go
[01:54] <YumeNoEien> argh!
[01:54] <YumeNoEien> oh wait
[01:54] <YumeNoEien> so i have the package sl-modem-daemon, and should remove sl-modem-modules
[01:55] <YumeNoEien> ty Jucato
[01:55] <Jucato> hm..
[01:55] <YumeNoEien> :p
[01:55] <Jucato> do you have both installed?
[01:55] <YumeNoEien> i think so, else the conflict wouldnt be there right?
[01:56] <YumeNoEien> but im gonna look if i have the sl-modem-modules installed
[01:56] <YumeNoEien> im sure about the sl-modem-daemon though
[01:56] <Jucato> where are you seeing this conflict?
[01:57] <YumeNoEien> argh
[01:57] <Jucato> YumeNoEien: all packages have "conflicts: " lines
[01:57] <YumeNoEien> oh well i went in package mngr and clicked on the daemon package
[01:57] <YumeNoEien> then hit details
[01:57] <YumeNoEien> oic
[01:57] <Jucato> it just tells the packager that you can't have package A and package B installed at the same time
[01:57] <YumeNoEien> ahh ic
[01:57] <Jucato> it's like a description/command for the package manager
[01:58] <YumeNoEien> because i couldnt find a modules package
[01:58] <YumeNoEien> more like a warning
[01:58] <YumeNoEien> and not an error
[01:59] <YumeNoEien> hmm, hey if i remove the package its not like windows, that it leaves behind any junk files right?
[02:00] <Jucato> Purge it instead of plain Remove and it will remove config files too
[02:02] <YumeNoEien> k
[02:02] <YumeNoEien> whats the CLI input to purge it?
[02:03] <Jucato> apt-get?
[02:03] <Jucato> sudo apt-get remove --purge
[02:03] <YumeNoEien> cool thanks :)
[02:04] <YumeNoEien> so "sudo apt-get remove sl-modem-daemon --purge" in this case
[02:05] <YumeNoEien> argh
[02:06] <YumeNoEien> E: could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Recource temporarily unavailable)
[02:07] <YumeNoEien> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proces using it?
[02:07] <YumeNoEien> >,>
[02:07] <SSJ_GZ> YumeNoEien:Is Adept open?
[02:08] <YumeNoEien> yea
[02:08] <Jucato> please close Adept first
[02:08] <YumeNoEien> oh that was the cause
[02:08] <YumeNoEien> k
[02:08] <YumeNoEien> it is done, cool
[02:08] <YumeNoEien> thanks guys
[02:09] <YumeNoEien> well, guess il mail the linmodem people again
[02:18] <t> does ubuntu do HD-DVD playback?
[02:19] <t> waas reading this and began to wonder http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html#functionality
[02:19] <t> really interesting stuff
[02:19] <t> neway, bye
[02:23] <Poom> can some1 help me with this ? http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/596/snapshot7qz1.png
[02:24] <Jucato> Poom: better ask in #ubuntu-xgl since you have Beryl running
[02:25] <Poom> Jucato: No that black color appear in firefox before I had beryl running
[02:26] <Jucato> Poom: hm... Firefox doesn't follow all of KDE's Style settings, because it's not a KDE/Qt app (it uses GTK). so I'm not entirely sure what else to do
[02:26] <Poom> oh
[02:30] <gerd_> hi there, i am just online with my new kubunty...
[02:30] <gerd_> (nothingmore to say :-)
[02:31] <goodthing> gerd_: upgraded your system right?
[02:31] <gerd_> no -fresh installed.
[02:31] <goodthing> with latest patches and all
[02:31] <goodthing> no i mean the regular updates
[02:32] <gerd_> mmh... dont know :-)
[02:32] <gerd_> will check that soon....(i guess)
[02:32] <goodthing> gerd_: you should know :p
[02:32] <gerd_> could you tell me if there is a german kubuntu channel?
[02:32] <gerd_> #kubuntu.de doesnt exist.
[02:32] <tsdgeos> !de
[02:32] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:33] <gerd_> thanks a lot!
[02:37] <sc0tch> Are there any quick and dirty ways/utilities for measuring network thru-put? (network speeds)
[02:38] <HymnToLife> sc0tch, there are SuperKaramba applets that do it
[02:38] <zakame> iftop, iptraf on the console
[02:45] <dhq> hey  there  i need help 915 drivers
[02:46] <dhq> i just downloaded them and need help
[02:46] <dhq> !915
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 915 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <Jucato> !i915
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i915 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <goodthing> what is 915 to be exact?
[02:51] <Jucato> intel driver I think
[02:51] <Jucato> !intel
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <Jucato> bah I quit :P
[02:52] <fritsch> !xserver-xorg-video-i810
[02:52] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-i810: X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.5-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 148 kB, installed size 392 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 m68k mips mipsel netbsd-i386 powerpc)
[02:53] <fritsch> Jucato: :-)
[02:53] <Jucato> dhq: ^^^^
[02:53] <Jucato> not mine though lol
[02:54] <dhq> Jucato: i need help dude
[02:55] <Jucato> dhq: if it's about those drivers, I'm clueless...
[02:55] <fritsch> dhq: you messed up your xorg drivers by installing compiz stuff?
[02:55] <dhq> Jucato: where can i get help
[02:55] <fritsch> dhq: there was something 5 months ago?
[02:55] <fritsch> dhq: :-)
[02:55] <Jucato> hm.. anyway, what's the problem?
[02:55] <Jucato> I'll see if I can help
[02:56] <dhq> fritsch: yes
[02:56] <dhq> fritsch: then had to refresh the whole drivers and install kde desktop again
[02:56] <fritsch> dhq: not been here for 5 month ;-)
[02:56] <fritsch> dhq: but the problems are the same
[02:59] <dhq> fritsch: Jucato: well you see when i start my pc my laptop is like in 2 parts the top of the screen is black and some of it is below the screen i cant see  then i have to press my laptoplid button to get everything rite and the again the problem with my opengl etc
[02:59] <Jucato> oh you caught me... 2 things I have no experience with... intel and laptops...
[03:00] <dhq> Jucato: nice
[03:01] <dhq> Jucato: why me  :(
[03:01] <Jucato> sorry dhq.. :(
[03:02] <zakame> dhq: I've the two Jucato lacks, but mine's a 945 and it works fine :/
[03:02] <dhq> Jucato: noproblem
[03:02] <Jucato> zakame: I also lack your expertise, your brain, etc etc etc :P
[03:03] <dhq> zakame: well help me with my problem
[03:03] <zakame> dhq: you say you got the 915 drivers?
[03:03] <dhq> zakame: yes
[03:04] <dhq> zakame: i cant even install xgl
[03:04] <zakame> this is on what release?
[03:06] <dhq> zakame: how to i check my release
[03:06] <Jucato> !version
[03:06] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[03:06] <goodthing> or cat /etc/issue
[03:06] <Jucato> the lsb_release is an LSB standard, so that might be better. it also shows it better :P
[03:06] <dhq> zakame: i am using edgy
[03:07] <dhq> Jucato: no lbs modules avalible
[03:07] <goodthing> Jucato: i see :)
[03:07] <Jucato> lsb, not lbs
[03:07] <Jucato> lsb_release -a
[03:08] <dhq> Jucato: no lsb modules availible
[03:08] <zakame> so, you've gotten the 915 drivers (I presume xorg ones, -i810?) and you're on edgy, right?  did you do `sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg`?
[03:08] <Jucato> O.o
[03:08] <zakame> what would be possible?
[03:08] <goodthing> Jucato: i have that too in the first line when i do  lsb_release -a
[03:08] <BluesKaj> yes , I get the same message no lsb modules available but it continues on and lists the distro and codename
[03:09] <Jucato> weird...
[03:09] <Jucato> never remember getting that
[03:09] <zakame> oh, the lsb modules thing... that means the other lsb packages aren't installed, I think
[03:09] <goodthing> well, it evens out the weirdness of myself, so all good
[03:09] <BluesKaj> what other lsb pkges ?
[03:10] <zakame> well, apt-cache can tell you better ;)
[03:10] <Jucato> but the necessary lsb packages should have been installed
[03:10] <fritsch> lsb-release just depends on lsb-release? non other?
[03:10] <zakame> cxx,desktop,graphics,build, among others
[03:11] <BluesKaj> what does lsb mean ?
[03:11] <zakame> linux standards base
[03:11] <BluesKaj> list b ?
[03:11] <Chousuke> least significant bit
[03:11] <Chousuke> ;P
[03:11] <fritsch> ;-)
[03:11] <BluesKaj> hehe
[03:11] <zakame> currently at version 3.1, I believe
[03:12] <zakame> Chousuke: right on!!11
[03:12] <Jucato> heh
[03:12] <BluesKaj> what's the ls apt-cache command ?
[03:12] <Chousuke> search
[03:12] <Jucato> apt-cache search
[03:12] <Chousuke> or what?
[03:12] <Jucato> apt-cache show <package> etc
[03:14] <BluesKaj> aha , sudo apt-cache show lsb , worked
[03:14] <goodthing> Jucato: well, it is installed here, it just does not show it in the command for some reason
[03:14] <rdarch> can anyone tell me which kernel version the current kubuntu edgy installer installs?
[03:14] <Jucato> BluesKaj: no need for sudo
[03:14] <Jucato> rdarch: 2.6.17-10-generic
[03:14] <rdarch> cheers :)
[03:16] <BluesKaj> well it worked anyway , Jucato :)
[03:16] <Jucato> heh :)
[03:16] <Sean_Heron> hey, I just wanted to mention (in case any of the friendly blokes or lasses from earlier are still around), that I actually did not have /etc/x11/xorg.cofg
[03:16] <Jucato> Sean_Heron: you tried reinstalling the xorg package?
[03:16] <Sean_Heron> what I did have was /etc/X11/xorg.conf :D
[03:16] <Jucato> heh
[03:16] <Sean_Heron> yes thanks :D
[03:16] <Jucato> Linux is case sensitive :)
[03:17] <Jucato> X11 is not the same as x!!
[03:17] <Jucato> er x11
[03:17] <Sean_Heron> I think from today on I might remeber that :D
[03:17] <BluesKaj>  /etc/x11/xorg.confg is the proper file
[03:17] <Sean_Heron> thanks anyway
[03:17] <zakame> yes, there was a cougf there
[03:17] <Jucato> BluesKaj: no. /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:17] <BluesKaj> oops
[03:17] <Jucato> I just said that Linux is case sensitive :P
[03:18] <goodthing> oh this reminds me of something...
[03:19] <Sean_Heron> now, can anybody tell me what precicely I need to have their to have the vesa drivers running, instead of the ones which arent working atm ?
[03:19] <Jucato> !xconfig
[03:19] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[03:19] <Jucato> when you get to the driver selection part, choose vesa
[03:20] <BluesKaj> !FixRes
[03:20] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:20] <Jucato> or if you're using an NVIDIA card, choose nv
[03:20] <Sean_Heron> Someguy told me earlier what I had to do, but unfortunately I didnt copy and save...
[03:20] <Sean_Heron> thats interesting :)
[03:20] <Jucato> nv and ati are the free/open drivers for NVIDIA and ATI cards
[03:20] <binks> has anyone used mtp support for amorak does it work well
[03:20] <binks> !mtp
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <zakame> wb dhq, how did it go?
[03:21] <Sean_Heron> so just !xconfig, and that should work ?
[03:21] <BluesKaj>  binks, what's mtp ?
[03:21] <Sean_Heron> ok, Ill give that a try, thanks :D
[03:21] <Jucato> Sean_Heron: er
[03:22] <Jucato> no, use the command that the !xconfig factoid gave
[03:22] <binks> its the way my mp3 player connects its not a usb drive
[03:22] <dhq> zakame: i had to log out as my keboard stopped workin
[03:22] <dhq> zakame: strange rite
[03:23] <binks> BlueKaj my mp3 player does mount like a drive it mounts using something called mtp
[03:23] <Sean_Heron> aah
[03:23] <Sean_Heron> the ubotu is not a person :)
[03:23] <Sean_Heron> good you said that :D
[03:23] <BluesKaj> a hardware mp3 player would have the issue with the soundcard not amarok
[03:23] <zakame> dhq: strange indeed :(
[03:24] <binks> BlueKaj http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316246
[03:24] <binks> its so i can transfere songs on/off
[03:24] <dhq> zakame: so tell me how to get xgl and my grafix working properly
[03:24] <dhq> zakame: you are usin whict drivers
[03:25] <zakame> well I'm using i810, according to my xorg.conf
[03:26] <BluesKaj> ok binks , wasn't aware of that ...amarok tries to be too many things to too many ppl it seems
[03:26] <zakame> I'm not using xgl atm (just upgraded to feisty now) so I can't be of help there, but I do believe i810 should cover 915, with a little help from 915resolution
[03:27] <binks> well no it just uses libmtp to allow me to transfere songs on / off like itunes does for ipods except i have the new samsung k3
[03:27] <dhq> zakame: so your xgl works fine
[03:27] <binks> http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/
[03:28] <zakame> dhq: no, I mean I haven't used xgl yet on this laptop
[03:28] <BluesKaj> binks, is it the 30Gig HDD Samsung player?
[03:28] <zakame> I did use xgl on my aging desktop though, and that's on nvidia :/
[03:29] <dhq> zakame: even i used it on my nvidia desktop
[03:29] <zakame> and it worked fine there?
[03:29] <dhq> zakame: so how do i configure my drivers
[03:30] <ubuntu__> hi
[03:30] <dhq> zakame: yes
[03:30] <ubuntu__> i have some problems installing grub
[03:30] <binks> no its a 4 gig slimline one its very good it has dsp
[03:30] <binks> http://www.trustedreviews.com/multimedia/news/2006/12/06/Samsung-K3-The-Speaker-less-K5/p1
[03:30] <BluesKaj> ok
[03:31] <zakame> dhq: did you try doing a `sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg` and following the prompts?
[03:31] <dhq> zakame: will try now
[03:35] <dhq> zakame: which all should i select dri gl etc
[03:36] <zakame> you could select all for the moment
[03:39] <dhq> zakame: ok done
[03:40] <zakame> how did it go?
[03:41] <dhq> zakame: well ok i guess
[03:41] <dhq> zakame: no errors nothing i guess i have to restart xserver to see the changes
[03:41] <zakame> go ahead
[03:43] <dhq> zakame: brb
[03:44] <BluesKaj> ok, my buddy has dapper and XP installed on his work pc...the company is upgrading to vista,  if he installs vista on the ntfs partition he will lose the Grub bootloader , correct ?  If so what's the best way around that problem ...and no smart remarks pls :)
[03:44] <BluesKaj> he wants to save access to dapper
[03:44] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Make a boot disk/floppy, or use a rescue disk/live CD to restore the bootloader.  google "restore grub".
[03:45] <jhutchins> "restore bootloader linux"
[03:45] <jhutchins> "restore bootloader ubuntu"
[03:45] <jhutchins> That should give you a weeks worth of howto's.
[03:45] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, what about something like Ultimate boot CD ?
[03:45] <jhutchins> Yup.
[03:45] <BluesKaj> hehe
[03:46] <jhutchins> The goot thing about a boot floppy is that it boots to your existing install and makes it really easy to restore the bootloader without worrying aobut chroot or anything.
[03:46] <jhutchins> I don't do grub, so the exact procedure will have to come from google.
[03:47] <BluesKaj> ok, but I don't think his pc has a floppy drive
[03:48] <jhutchins> cd/usb
[03:48] <BluesKaj> yes of course
[03:49] <dhq> zakame: still the same
[03:51] <zakame> aw :( do you have 915resolution installed?
[03:51] <ubuntu_> hi i want to install kubuntu
[03:51] <ubuntu_> i have 256 mb ram
[03:51] <ubuntu_> how can i activate swap partition
[03:52] <dhq> zakame: i guess i used 815
[03:52] <ubuntu_>  /dev/hda6 is my swap partition
[03:52] <ubuntu_> or can i intall kubuntu from konsole
[03:53] <LeeJunFan> ubuntu_: you shouldn't have to activate it - type run 'free' at the konsole and it'll tell you how much swap you have and is in use, etc... you can install kubuntu from commandline by running 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[03:55] <michaelpo> what is the name of the app in ubuntu6.06 to burn cd of downloaded iso?
[03:55] <ubuntu_>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[03:55] <ubuntu_> Mem:        238640     234620       4020          0       1768      78200
[03:55] <ubuntu_> -/+ buffers/cache:     154652      83988
[03:55] <ubuntu_> Swap:            0          0          0
[03:55] <jhutchins> michaelpo: cdrecord.
[03:56] <michaelpo> i cant find cdrecord in the menu
[03:56] <ubuntu_> what is the normal and root passwords. i have just insert latest kubuntu cd
[03:56] <michaelpo> i have to download and install?
[03:56] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: 1) Don't paste, use pasetebin, freenode's servers will kick you.  2) use fdisk -l to see if you really have a swap partition, it may need the partition type set.
[03:57] <jhutchins> !sudo | ubuntu_
[03:57] <ubotu> ubuntu_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:57] <jhutchins> michaelpo: Command line.
[03:57] <jhutchins> !burn
[03:57] <ubuntu_> i also dont know normal user password
[03:57] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:58] <michaelpo> jhutchins: thanks
[03:59] <ubuntu_>  /dev/hda7   256 mb swap partition
[04:00] <raoulsana> hello
[04:00] <raoulsana> someone speak french ?
[04:00] <Jucato> !fr | raoulsana
[04:00] <ubotu> raoulsana: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:00] <raoulsana> thx
[04:00] <ubuntu_> so how can i activate this swap partition
[04:02] <raoulsana> i trie to install kubuntu in siemens-fujitsu primergy server
[04:03] <raoulsana> and i looking for the good driver
[04:03] <raoulsana> i try
[04:03] <raoulsana> lol
[04:04] <ubuntu_> LeeJunFan: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'  does this command start x server or just start installing.
[04:04] <michaelpo> ok.. the howto say to right click and "writing image to disc", but i'm not sure if it can detect my writer... it keep on asking me to put in cd or cdrw... i have tried many different blank cds and cdrws already...
[04:06] <michaelpo> what do i do now... help...
[04:08] <wimpies> HI all/any, just did a update to feisty 3(had feisty2) but now amarok refuses to play mp3 (It hangs) ?
[04:09] <Chousuke> ... just what did they break in that release?
[04:09] <Chousuke> it seems everyone is having sound problems .P
[04:10] <zakame> wimpies: hmm looks local to you, I'm playing mp3s quite fine here on latest feisty
[04:10] <wimpies> using amarok ?
[04:10] <Jucato> wimpies: you can also try in #ubuntu+1 if people are experiencing similar things
[04:11] <wimpies> jucato : trying that no but seems nobody's there ...
[04:11] <wimpies> mpg123 plays it ...
[04:13] <wimpies> Yep ... I hear the sound of a dialog that is supposed to popup but I cannot see the dialog and the amarok apps hangs
[04:13] <crazy_penguin> Hello
[04:15] <M_Fatih2> hi eerybody
[04:17] <michaelpo> how do i check if ubuntu6.06 detected my cdwriter correctly or not?
[04:17] <tazz> i am having problems reading data of my dvdwriter i just burned a cd using k3b but when i insert my cd the folder shows up blank :-S, i am using kubuntu edgy
[04:19] <angasule> tazz: can you test the cd on another computer?
[04:19] <goodthing> tazz: maybe the dvd station in not mounted?
[04:19] <utente> ciao
[04:19] <Andale> ciao utente :D
[04:19] <ubuntu_> can i install kubuntu to a 5 GB partition
[04:20] <utente> bella andale
[04:20] <utente> ma sono tutti stranieri ?
[04:20] <angasule> ubuntu_: yes
[04:20] <angasule> !it | utente
[04:20] <ubotu> utente: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:20] <tazz> angasule, other cds show up blank as well
[04:20] <utente> occhei
[04:20] <utente> thk
[04:20] <goodthing> ubuntu: yes, but more is better
[04:21] <tazz> the dvd-wr mounts but there is no visible data
[04:21] <goodthing> and you'll probably gona hit the roof quick
[04:21] <angasule> tazz: well, assuming they are not blank :) open k3b, go to Tools->Diskinfo, and check if the disk is empty or full
[04:21] <tazz> angasule, full
[04:22] <angasule> tazz: those other disks, they were working previously? on the same or different computer?
[04:22] <tazz> even disk-admin shows that the cds are full
[04:22] <ForgeAus> whats the ubuntu1/2/3/etc attached to the end of packages mean?
[04:23] <tazz> angasule, ever thing works on other computer but just not with this dvdwriter i switched it with a cd-wr same problem
[04:25] <angasule> tazz: oh, one thing: you insert the disk, a dialog shows up and you choose to open the cd, then the disk shows up as blank, right?
[04:25] <tazz> angasule, no i dont get any dialog
[04:25] <angasule> tazz: you don't get any dialog upon inserting a disk??
[04:26] <tazz> but when i go to /media/cdrom0 it sohws as mounted
[04:26] <tazz> angasule, nope
[04:26] <angasule> tazz: something like: /dev/hda on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=angasule)
[04:26] <angasule> tazz: that's odd, remove the CD, and check if it still thinks it's mounted
[04:28] <angasule> tazz: it sometimes happens in edgy, that after loading a CD, you have to hit refresh in konqueror to actually see the contents, but I don't think that's the problem in your case
[04:28] <tazz> ah got the problem, the problem is that the permissions are set to root
[04:28] <tazz> so many root can view the data
[04:28] <tazz> how do i change that?
[04:29] <tazz> so only root can view the data
[04:29] <ForgeAus> laptops/tablets etc don't really need bluetooth right? I mean you could plug a dongle in but they don't really need it right?
[04:29] <angasule> tazz: gimme a min, it's done in the System Settings, but I have to open it since I don't remember it exactly :)
[04:30] <BluesKaj> jhutchins,  http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/?section=download
[04:30] <ilyaostr9> kubuntu are awesum
[04:30] <ilyaostr9> yeyeyey
[04:30] <ilyaostr9> www.kubuntuisthebest.com
[04:31] <angasule> tazz: go to Advanced-> Disk and filesystems -> admin mode
[04:31] <ilyaostr9> Hi UBNNY
[04:31] <ilyaostr9> BOOBUNTU
[04:31] <angasule> tazz: I have it configured as: writable (checkbox enabled) and 'one user at a time may enable/disable')
[04:31] <ilyaostr9> KOOBOOBOONTOO ROX
[04:32] <tazz> angasule, you mean gksu disks-admin?
[04:32] <angasule> tazz: the system settings, in the KDE Menu->system settings
[04:33] <angasule> tazz: or, you might go to /media and do "sudo 777 cdrom0" which will give anyone permission for anything with cdrom0
[04:34] <ilyaostr9> LOL PENIS
[04:34] <angasule> angasule: but I'm not sure that "proper", I just noticed that's how I have it set up :)
[04:34] <goodthing> chillout ilyaostr9
[04:34] <tazz> angasule, done got it thanks angasule
[04:35] <angasule> tazz: have fun :)
[04:35] <ilyaostr9> but i want a penis fight!
[04:35] <angasule> ilyaostr9: you'd lose, now behave
[04:35] <ilyaostr9> will u penis fight with me goodthing
[04:35] <ilyaostr9> my penis is huuuuge
[04:35] <ilyaostr9> lol
[04:35] <Jucato> ilyaostr9: stop that or leave
[04:36] <goodthing> don't tell me this is happening...
[04:36] <ForgeAus> ily yeah but only when you use a microscope
[04:36] <Jucato> heh ok. just leave...
[04:36] <ForgeAus> ah kewl
[04:36] <goodthing> ah :)
[04:43] <Pricey> Hey, I can't get amarok mounting my ipod anymore... Its mounted at "/media/JOE'S IPOD" and no matter how I format that path, it says there's no ipod found
[04:49] <Vuen> hi, question, why is Ark so hard to use?
[04:49] <hammer2> !libdvdcss
[04:49] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:49] <d0dge> Vuen: It's not?
[04:49] <Vuen> why is it that when i merely select some files, i get three 'unrar' processes that tie up my entire CPU and hard drive?
[04:50] <Vuen> why does it insist on launching a bunch of unrars without confirming ANYTHING with me? why does it do this when i just box-select files in an archive? why can't i just drag files off into a konqueror window?
[04:52] <orient2000> Hi! Is there any program to burn iso to CD? My k3b dosn't work.
[04:52] <Vuen> orient2000: gnomebaker
[04:52] <Vuen> orient2000: it's gtk, but it'l work
[04:53] <orient2000> I will trywhat is gtk?
[04:53] <ForgeAus> Graphic Tool Kit (I think)
[04:53] <ForgeAus> its also the basis of Gnome
[04:53] <ForgeAus> (kinda like how QT is the basis of KDE)
[04:53] <orient2000> is it in kde?
[04:54] <orient2000> OK thanks
[04:54] <ForgeAus> its in kubuntu, not sure if its in kde excatly
[04:54] <Jucato> GTK = the GIMP Tool Kit, the GUI toolkit that GNOME uses
[04:54] <Theory> what is broken about k3b ?
[04:54] <Jucato> (and it's Qt, not QT)
[04:55] <ForgeAus> gimp tool kit? wow...
[04:55] <Jucato> yep. the GIMP is older than GNOME :)
[04:55] <ForgeAus> Gimp is THAT important to Gnome?
[04:55] <Jucato> no silly :P
[04:55] <Jucato> GTK was the toolkit used to create the GIMP
[04:55] <Jucato> or rather
[04:55] <Jucato> the 2 were developed side by side
[04:55] <ForgeAus> thats what I thought
[04:55] <Chousuke> GTK was created to create the gimp.
[04:56] <Jucato> and when the time came for GNOME to be born, they decided to use GTK for it
[05:15] <test34> Were the vulnerabilities causing DoS in Bind 9.3.2-2ubuntu3 fixed ? or where can I find out ?
[05:15] <Wespe>  hi, how can i make my kde panel completely transparent?
[05:17] <Wespe> when i set the panel background to transparent I only get about 80% transaprency
[05:17] <abattoir> Wespe: rt. click->Configure Panel->Appearance->Advanced->transparency
[05:17] <juano_> Wespe: right click you panel configure your panel
[05:17] <Jucato> oh great
[05:17] <abattoir> aah, i didn't notice the netsplit
[05:17] <Wespe> well I tried that, but i only get about 80% transparency
[05:18] <abattoir> Wespe: try changing the 'tint' amount
[05:18] <juano_> Wespe: advanced options ---> tint amount
[05:18] <Wespe> ah, i see
[05:18] <Wespe> that's it, thanx all
[05:28] <eMish_> i installed fluxbox, when logging in, i got 'failed to start enc=utf8' session, falling back' and go KDE. how to fix ?
[05:36] <meduxa> hi, is anybody around attendind to the international free software conference in Extremadura, Spain, next week?
[05:36] <meduxa> http://www.freesoftwareworldconference.com/en/
[05:37] <meduxa> I'll be there and I can show you guys mEDUXa, the Kubuntu based edu distro from the Canary Island Gov
[05:38] <easytiger> cool.
[05:38] <meduxa> write me an e-mail if you go so I can meet you<EMAIL_ADDRESS>o<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:40] <goodthing> lol, i just fried my old monitor with herd3 :p
[05:41] <goodthing> was weird it did still function anyway
[05:49] <draik> Somehow, somebody changed the pw on my laptop and now I can't get in
[05:49] <draik> How do I go about changing the pw?
[05:49] <acfrazier> I have a problem
[05:49] <acfrazier> anything I do to try and get into KDE on my live CD, it doesn't work. I need to install linux on the new partition I made but I can't get the graphics up and running
[05:49] <acfrazier> it just says no screen found
[05:52] <luca_b> !xgl
[05:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:57] <acfrazier> X
[05:57] <acfrazier> !X
[05:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:03] <acfrazier> anyone here?
[06:04] <jhutchins> Nope.
[06:04] <draik> It's rather strange to not find people here on a saturday
[06:05] <acfrazier> meh
[06:05] <acfrazier> well is anyone able to help?
[06:06] <draik> I'm not sure how or why it happened, but it seems that someone has deleted my user from my laptop
[06:06] <draik> and I can't login
[06:06] <carl> Hi
[06:06] <acfrazier> hello
[06:06] <carl> How do I install new themes in kubuntu?
[06:06] <acfrazier> you got kubuntu running?
[06:06] <acfrazier> I still don't.
[06:07] <draik> I have Kubuntu running, but I've had issues with themes before
[06:07] <carl> ..?
[06:07] <acfrazier> I still need to get mine installed
[06:07] <acfrazier> lemme try downloading the DVD
[06:08] <acfrazier> cause I was using the CD.. probably had lack of drivers for my GFX card, that's why
[06:08] <Eruantalon> Ivtv doesn't work for me. I am getting error when I do "sudo modprobe ivtv". I get the "Unknown symbol video_unregister_device"-types of errors that are mentioned at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy, but reinstalling the kernel as instructed changed nothing. What to do?
[06:08] <Eruantalon> !themes
[06:08] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:09] <acfrazier> probably !changethemes would help carl
[06:09] <carl> !changethemes'
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changethemes' - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <carl> !changethemes
[06:09] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[06:09] <Eruantalon> !ivtv
[06:09] <ubotu> IVTV can be installed on Edgy by following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy
[06:10] <acfrazier> !installingkubuntu
[06:16] <M_Fatih2> i have a problem with polyester theme in kde
[06:17] <M_Fatih2> my polyester theme's glass typed buttons not working..
[06:19] <distry> whats a good alternative to the default dock in kubuntu?
[06:25] <adaptr> smoothdock !
[06:25] <adaptr> beautiful, but tricky to get right - and hheaavvyyy on your system :)
[06:25] <jriffle> where can i find a list of mirrors for the kubuntu-herd3 release, my download is at 7.6 KB/sec on a 5 Meg cable connection
[06:26] <jriffle> i'm not that patient
[06:26] <Eruantalon> Ivtv doesn't work for me. I am getting error when I do "sudo modprobe ivtv". I get the "Unknown symbol video_unregister_device"-types of errors that are mentioned at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy, but reinstalling the kernel as instructed changed nothing. What to do?
[06:26] <jriffle> and there were only 3 people seeding the torrent
[06:27] <zorglu_> jriffle: using bittorrent will likely make it better, no ?
[06:27] <draik> How do I use the LiveCD to get into my HDD partition and access everything on it as if I was running the actual HDD, not LiveCD?
[06:28] <jriffle> zorglu_: there are only 3 people seeding the file, i would prefer a fast server so i don't have to wait until tomorrow to play with it
[06:28] <zorglu_> jriffle: the number of peer is not that relevant, only the speed of all the peer matter
[06:28] <zorglu_> jriffle: have you tried ?
[06:29] <jriffle> yes ktorrent is downloading now at 11K
[06:29] <zorglu_> ah ok :)
[06:29] <zorglu_> then i dunno
[06:29] <apokryphos> torrents suck, use metalinks 8)
[06:29] <draik> !chroot
[06:30] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[06:30] <zorglu_> apokryphos: yep they have good principle but horrible excution :)
[06:30] <zorglu_> apokryphos: and i mean HORRIBLE :)
[06:30] <apokryphos> zorglu_: aria2 has a pretty good implementation; what's wrong with it?
[06:30] <zorglu_> like no spec, producing bogus xml etc... :)
[06:30] <draik> I'm not sure what I am looking for now
[06:31] <apokryphos> zorglu_: eh?
[06:31] <zorglu_> apokryphos: yep believe me to implement it is 'impossible' :)
[06:31] <apokryphos> zorglu_: well, it has been implemented, and it works very well, so... ;-)
[06:31] <zorglu_> apokryphos: and i did tried a lot
[06:31] <zorglu_> apokryphos: well i doubt that :)
[06:32] <apokryphos> you doubt that it works?
[06:32] <goodthing> ehm, the desktop herd3 is gone well for me
[06:32] <zorglu_> apokryphos: yep :)
[06:32] <apokryphos> zorglu_: we had over 60,000 downloads with metalinks for openSUSE in about 2 days. So :)
[06:32] <zorglu_> apokryphos: so ? :)
[06:32] <draik> Where are passwords kept in Kubuntu?
[06:33] <apokryphos> zorglu_: so you're going to have to expand on the very vague "doesn't work", of course
[06:33] <fdoving> draik: the ones in the wallet?
[06:33] <draik> and how do I mount the HDD so that I can access it directly while still using the LiveCD
[06:33] <zorglu_> apokryphos: ok i can try, they produce bogus XML, they have huge hole in the spec, like completly unspecified stuff
[06:33] <draik> fdoving: No. It seems that someone got into my system and added users and changed my pw
[06:33] <zorglu_> apokryphos: when they are multiple file, they dont say what to do
[06:34] <fdoving> draik: ah. those passwords are kept in /etc/shadow
[06:34] <zorglu_> apokryphos: and in fact there is nothing to do except either 'interactively asking' the user or download them all
[06:34] <apokryphos> zorglu_: I don't know about XML, but what exactly is bogus about them? Tell me, and I'll ask.
[06:34] <apokryphos> zorglu_: when they are multiple file, they dont say what to do <-- eh?
[06:34] <zorglu_> apokryphos: if you ask the user to choose,... well may be be acceptable in some context, but not in mine :)
[06:35] <apokryphos> what's wrong with not asking the user to choose which mirror to use?
[06:35] <zorglu_> apokryphos: and download them all is bad, because some put all the version of the file in the same .metalink
[06:35] <draik> fdoving: How do I access that file to change the password or to at least find out what the pw is?
[06:35] <apokryphos> zorglu_: download all what?
[06:35] <zorglu_> apokryphos: like openoffice which provide all the version
[06:36] <apokryphos> I honestly don't understand what you're staying. They provide all the version of what?
[06:36] <apokryphos> *saying
[06:36] <fdoving> draik: you can't easily find out what the password is, the easiest is to re-set it.
[06:36] <draik> fdoving: How do I do that?
[06:36] <zorglu_> apokryphos: oh and i forgot :) they say 'use .torrent in xml and not in bencode' but dont give the xml format for it :))))))))))))
[06:36] <fdoving> draik: in recovery mode, 'passwd username'
[06:37] <draik> ok
[06:37] <draik> will do
[06:37] <zorglu_> apokryphos: so it qualifies as 'no spec' to me :)
[06:37] <apokryphos> zorglu_: so you're annoyed about its implementation into the specific XML files?
[06:37] <fdoving> draik: if someone (evil) gained access to your system and changed your password, i would re-install. you don't know what they might have done to your system.
[06:37] <apokryphos> zorglu_: ok, but this is very far from "doesn't work". It does.
[06:37] <zorglu_> apokryphos: and as 'i dont think it has been implemented' :)
[06:37] <draik> fdoving: I had 3 extra users: flor mcc and users
[06:38] <bubu1uk> can i install ubuntu system without GUI? just base system.
[06:38] <apokryphos> zorglu_: metalinks are also really only going to get bigger. wget and kget support for them is being added right now
[06:38] <fdoving> bubu1uk: yes, select server install.
[06:38] <apokryphos> with regard to kget, nothing until kde4 though
[06:38] <zorglu_> apokryphos: well i implemented all what aria does and i noted in my doc 'metalink is ultra beta. dont use it except if you know what you are doing' :)
[06:38] <bubu1uk> fdoving: thanx
[06:38] <Eruantalon> Is there a way just as good as "gksu update-manager -c" for kubuntu?
[06:39] <zorglu_> apokryphos: then i hope they will do a spec for it
[06:39] <obowang> hi
[06:39] <apokryphos> zorglu_: I hope those issues are sorted out too, but the fact that it works very well with aria2 at the moment is more than reason enough to recommend that users use it.
[06:39] <draik> fdoving: my laptop is a full Kubuntu install, no partitions. WHere do I get the screen for recovery mode?
[06:39] <fdoving> Eruantalon: no, that tool doesn't exist yet. if you have update-manager (from ubuntu) installed, you can run it with 'kdesu -- update-manager -c'
[06:40] <obowang> what are minimun requeriments to install kubuntu 6.10?
[06:40] <fdoving> draik: at boot, in the grub menu.
[06:40] <zorglu_> apokryphos: i think i got the source of our disagreement :) you got a much lower definition of what 'works' than me :)
[06:40] <draik> fdoving: will do
[06:40] <Eruantalon> fdoving: Is there any reason not to do this seems a lot easier than the kubuntu way. By the way will this simple methods be implemented in feisty?
[06:41] <zorglu_> for me a protocol which has issue, which has seriously bogus spec can't be said 'to work' :)
[06:41] <apokryphos> zorglu_: or just a very different one. You're asking what works on the coding/XML level, whereas what's really important for users is whether it does what you want it to, and doesn't kill bad things in theprocess.
[06:41] <zorglu_> apokryphos: for you to work seems to be 'it doesn core dump' :)
[06:41] <fdoving> Eruantalon: it's beeing implemented for feisty.
[06:41] <zorglu_> apokryphos: btw you said 'you will ask' ... you know those guys ? they are on irc?
[06:41] <Eruantalon> good
[06:41] <obowang> what are minimun requeriments to install kubuntu 6.10?
[06:42] <apokryphos> zorglu_: user process is quite simple: (i) I want to download an ISO, (ii) I want this fast, (iii) I don't want my computer to break because of it. (iv) I don't want other things to be ruined because of it.
[06:42] <Eruantalon> !minimumrequirements
[06:42] <apokryphos> zorglu_: I speak to twanj (one of the lead guys) now and again, but he hasn't been on for a few days. I'm sure he'd love to speak to you though. Would you like his addy?
[06:42] <draik> fdoving: Thank you. I got it
[06:42] <zorglu_> apokryphos: yep i would love that. they are some good stuff. fixing is not hard. just some work to do
[06:43] <zorglu_> apokryphos: is he on irc ?
[06:43] <fdoving> Eruantalon: for the livecd, 256MB RAM, installation needs around 2GB disk space.
[06:43] <strus> hi all
[06:43] <zorglu_> apokryphos: what is his nick ? i can put it on watchlist to know when he is there
[06:43] <apokryphos> zorglu_: not at the moment. He comes on now and again though
[06:43] <Mossblaser> Hello! I am having problems installing the nVIDIA drivers for my graphics card, previously with ubuntu I simply needed to apt-get them with adept and then I could change the drivers to propriatary in the sytem settings screen, restart X and everything would work. Now for some reason no matter how i enable the drivers (through settings, configuration command thingy or manualy) I can still not get anything but i see the
[06:43] <Mossblaser> boot screen for a few secconds and then a flashing cursor, the only way to recover from the situation is to restore a backed up config file and i'm back to "square one", any ideas?
[06:43] <apokryphos> zorglu_: he doesn't normally hang around in here though. I see him in #suse when he's in there
[06:43] <Eruantalon> obowang: Did you get that?
[06:43] <apokryphos> zorglu_: I do recommend emailing him though, and he'll probably come on then.
[06:44] <obowang> no
[06:44] <zorglu_> apokryphos: ok remember his nickname ?
[06:44] <apokryphos> twanj
[06:44] <Eruantalon> obowang  for the livecd, 256MB RAM, installation needs around 2GB disk space.
[06:44] <zorglu_> ok thanks
[06:44] <zorglu_> apokryphos: quite informative this #kubuntu :)
[06:44] <obowang> and cpu?
[06:44] <apokryphos> 8)
[06:44] <obowang> ubuntu 6.10 + beryl only 256 mb?
[06:45] <embrik> I've forgot how to install java - I've downloaded jre-6-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[06:45] <apokryphos> metalink support in kget will be really nice though :D
[06:46] <zorglu_> apokryphos: they have it i think
[06:46] <strus> i've problem with resolution, i'm traing to set 1280x800 (i use laptop lenovo n100) and i have a problem with this, i set the resolution into xorg.conf but when I start the Xserver i've only 1024x786, is here anyone who could help me to solve this problem?
[06:46] <apokryphos> I know code was being worked on a few weeks ago for it, but I haven't been following
[06:46] <zorglu_> apokryphos: they already worked on it like 2-3month ago, so i guess it is done by now
[06:46] <apokryphos> s/weeks/months/, then, I guess. Time flies :)
[06:46] <apokryphos> zorglu_: sounds good; I think I'll try it out soon.
[06:47] <draik> fdoving: I can't get in
[06:47] <draik> fdoving: It's taking the pw, it's about to load the splash screen and goes back to the login screen
[06:47] <draik> fdoving: I can't even log in to the Console
[06:51] <jriffle> where can i download kubuntu (herd3) using metalink
[06:51] <jriffle> i have aria2
[06:52] <Eruantalon> what is aria2?
[06:53] <jriffle> metalink downloader
[06:53] <draik> !firewall
[06:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:53] <draik> !Guarddog
[06:54] <draik> !Guarddog
[06:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:56] <Eruantalon> !metalink
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metalink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <exitus> hi all
[07:06] <jhutchins> jriffle: Somebody'd have to be serving it via metalink.  I don't know of any way to find available metalink downloads, never heard of metalink before.
[07:06] <jhutchins> jriffle_: You'll get better DL rates from the mirrors than you will with bittorrent anyway.
[07:06] <darkblue> anyone having problems with the new beryl update?
[07:07] <Eruantalon> Hmm the bittorrent is slow for me (alternate)
[07:08] <acfrazier> same for me and the DVD
[07:08] <theshadow> I'm sorry but there isn't anyone in #ati thats responding. I'm trying to set my resolution above 1024x768 but everytime I try to set it with aticonfig --resolution=0,1280x1024 it says "screen0 does not exist" can anyone help me?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> darkblue,  - a problem as in 'it crashes with some error' ? :)
[07:09] <acfrazier> everytime I try and start X mine says no screen found
[07:09] <acfrazier> XD
[07:09] <Dr_willis> theshadow,  check the xorg.conf - perhaps the screen is named screen1 or somthing.
[07:09] <jriffle_> jhutchins: its the other way around, bittorrent is 20K, mirror is 6-7K
[07:09] <jriffle_> jhutchins: both are too slow
[07:09] <Dr_willis> we need bittorrent mirrors! :)
[07:09] <Eruantalon> my torrent is at 50 k now
[07:09] <jhutchins> jriffle_: Find a better mirror.
[07:10] <acfrazier> my download is 1mb/sec around there but I'm using a download accellerator in firefox..
[07:10] <jhutchins> I typically get 200 - 300k.
[07:12] <theshadow> Dr_willis: which section should I be looking under?
[07:12] <Dr_willis> the screen or layout section would be my guess
[07:13] <theshadow> Dr_willis: kinda new to this. What would th line look like?
[07:13] <jriffle_> jhutchins: that's what i'm looking for, mirrors for kubuntu herd3
[07:13] <Dr_willis> theshadow,  not sure - ive never USED that specific tool.
[07:13] <Dr_willis> but the screen section has an 'identifire' entry
[07:14] <Dr_willis> Identifier     "Default Screen"
[07:14] <Dr_willis> is mine
[07:14] <theshadow> Dr_willis: I have a line in "ServerLayout" that says Screen "Default Screen 0 0
[07:14] <theshadow> "Default Screen"*
[07:14] <Dr_willis> you may be able to use the kde tools to change the resolution now , if you have the ati drivers installed.
[07:14] <Dr_willis> Perhperials -> monitor & display
[07:14] <theshadow> Dr_willis: they don't show anything above 1024x768
[07:14] <Dr_willis> theshadow,  you did install the ati/fglrx drivers?
[07:15] <theshadow> Dr_willis: yea exactly as the instructions had them aaaat cchtml.com
[07:15] <Dr_willis> never heard of that site.. i just use the !ati wiki page
[07:15] <Dr_willis> !ati
[07:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:15] <Dr_willis> actually im now ATI-Free :) so i dont even use that site any more
[07:16] <Dr_willis> im guessing that  aticonfig --resolution=0,1280x1024    , SOMEHOW can be told what 'screen name' to look for.
[07:16] <Dr_willis> which in my confif file is called "Default Screen"
[07:17] <Eruantalon> theshadow: What do you have for your monitor in xorg.conf?
[07:17] <theshadow> Eruantalon: one sec
[07:17] <Dr_willis> you could put yoru whole xorg.conf to a pastebin site.
[07:17] <Dr_willis> !pastebin
[07:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:18] <theshadow> Eruantalon: says generic monitor.
[07:18] <draik> fdoving: I get this error now when trying to update my packages:
[07:18] <draik> http://pastebin.ca/338784
[07:18] <Eruantalon> theshadow: That might be your problem. It doesn't recognise your monitor and assumes it is a low spec one
[07:19] <Eruantalon> Find your specs for your monitor and put in the right specs
[07:19] <theshadow> Eruantalon: ok
[07:20] <draik> Anyone else getting this error when trying to get updates: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)     ?
[07:21] <fdoving> draik: looks like you have some proxy settings that doesn't work.
[07:22] <inteliwasp> what do i need to do to resove a rather fast clock on my box?
[07:22] <jhutchins> inteliwasp: How fast?
[07:22] <inteliwasp> over time i have seen it become 30+ minutes fast
[07:23] <JohnFlux> inteliwasp: just turn on ntp
[07:23] <JohnFlux> inteliwasp: it learns if the clock is fast/slow and auto-adjusts it
[07:24] <inteliwasp> i do have ntp on... still fast
[07:24] <JohnFlux> inteliwasp: right click on the clock, and chose adjust date and time
[07:24] <draik> fdoving: Hmmm... I don't recall anything with proxy changes
[07:24] <JohnFlux> uh
[07:24] <inteliwasp> already on
[07:24] <draik> AFAIK, I don't touch anything with proxy settings
[07:24] <jhutchins> inteliwasp: Read up on ntp then, check how it's running, why it's not keeping you in sync.
[07:25] <draik> What packages should I be looking for?
[07:25] <inteliwasp> jhutchins: got any links for configuring ntp?
[07:25] <jhutchins> if your clock is getting 30 minutes ahead, ntp isn't working properly.
[07:25] <jhutchins> http://www.ntp.org/ntpfaq/
[07:26] <inteliwasp> jhutchins: i gonna use my server as a local time server and use that for local ntp...
[07:26] <xndt> hello. i'm currently logged in on a laptop with kubuntu cd live and now i am trying to install it on hard drive. unfortunately i have windows installed on it and don;t wanna loose it. durring xp install, i've left 20 gb unpartitioned. now at ubuntu install, how can i set the root "/" partition? is it enough to type / in the label field from the create partition dialog ?
[07:26] <inteliwasp> jhutchins: thanks
[07:26] <xndt> also, do i have to set it active?
[07:26] <jhutchins> Most people are using pool.ntp.org for their servers now; we've found there are reasons to use local routers.
[07:26] <JohnFlux> inteliwasp: in /etc/ntp.conf
[07:27] <JohnFlux> inteliwasp: do you have a drift file ?
[07:27] <blekos> hello, how can i associate torrents with ktorrent so they are automatically downloaded by it?
[07:27] <jhutchins> inteliwasp: Your logs should show why it might not be working.
[07:27] <yipe> my kaffeine seems to be broken :( It crashes on opening
[07:27] <Dr_willis> xndt,  you mean you have 20gb of 'unallocated' space? or 20gb free on the windows C: drive?
[07:27] <xndt> Dr_willis: unalocated :)
[07:27] <draik> fdoving: I searched for "proxy" in adept and found that I have SMPROXY installed. Remove it?
[07:28] <inteliwasp> jhutchins: there is a drift file listed but nothing in it
[07:28] <fdoving> draik: no, it's not that.
[07:28] <fdoving> draik: check /etc/apt/apt.conf for proxy settings.
[07:28] <JohnFlux> blekos: settings->configure konqueror -> file associations
[07:28] <draik> ok
[07:29] <blekos> thnx
[07:29] <draik> fdoving: Nothing. Empty file
[07:29] <Dr_willis> xndt,  it 'should' be like /dev/hda2 then - actually i thought ht elive cd inrtaller had a check box for 'use unallocated space'
[07:29] <draik> nano /etc/apt/apt.conf
[07:29] <Dr_willis> xndt,  it shoudl then make 2 partitions one for swap and one for /
[07:30] <blekos> i dont have a configure konqueror option...
[07:30] <fdoving> draik: anything inside /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ about proxies?
[07:31] <draik> fdoving: Nope
[07:32] <draik> I'm going to restart and see if something starts up that shouldn't
[07:33] <xndt> Dr_willis: bear with me a little, please. here is the current setup: /dev/sda1:nfts, active /dev/sda2:extended and under sda2 i have sda5:ntfs and sda-1:free.
[07:33] <draik> fdoving: Hmmm...
[07:34] <draik> fdoving: Whatever it was/is isn't running now. I got my updates
[07:34] <xndt> so here is what i`m doing: select the sda-1 partition, click create, set it as linux-swap and set its size 1000mb.
[07:35] <xndt> now select sda-1, create, set it ext3, label "/" and size was set by kubuntu installer to remaining 19000 mb\
[07:35] <xndt> is that label enough for the installer to know that there is the partition i want it to use?
[07:37] <xndt> Dr_willis ?
[07:37] <edu> !winmodem
[07:37] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[07:38] <draik> Does anyone here recommend a good firewall? I'm thinking about guarddog
[07:39] <ben_m> Hey :) If I want to watch a video, I only get sound and no image, unless I open 2 videos, one of them has an image then ... any ideas why?
[07:39] <JohnFlux> draik: for your own machine?
[07:39] <draik> JohnFlux: Yes
[07:39] <Eruantalon> ben_m: Using an ati card?
[07:39] <ben_m> yes.
[07:39] <fdoving> xndt: setting the mountpoint to / is enought. the -label- really doesn't matter. the mountpoint matters.
[07:39] <Eruantalon> thought so. Using binary drivers or opensource?
[07:39] <ben_m> fglrx/radeon/ati all have the same problem
[07:40] <Eruantalon> ok
[07:40] <Eruantalon> and you are using kaffeine?
[07:40] <xndt> fdoving i don't have no 'mountpoint" option. currently i'm running the installer from the kubuntu live cd kde
[07:40] <ben_m> It's on every player.
[07:40] <ben_m> tried vlc and the gnome one too
[07:40] <blekos> could someone tell my what's on his Kmenu? I think i'm missing a couple of things. I have 1.Graphics 2. Internet 3. Mutlimedia 4.office 5.settings [contains only firestarter] 6.system 7.utilities 8.add/remove 9.find 10.help 11.system settings 12.actions...
[07:40] <shadowhywind> hay all, when i get this message "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"  what package needs to be installed?
[07:40] <Eruantalon> ben_m: Bad drivers/cards are the cause of this. It can be helped though.
[07:41] <fdoving> xndt: ok. i can't recall what that looks like. so i'm sorry, i'm useless at this point.
[07:41] <Eruantalon> Open of kaffeine
[07:41] <Eruantalon> up
[07:41] <ben_m> did.
[07:41] <Eruantalon> choose xine paramaters
[07:41] <Eruantalon> video
[07:41] <Eruantalon> and select another driver.
[07:41] <ben_m> done
[07:42] <ben_m> anyone?
[07:42] <Eruantalon> try xv for example.
[07:42] <Eruantalon> I am not sure what are the pro and cons of each
[07:42] <ben_m> doesn't work with xv.
[07:42] <Eruantalon> hmm
[07:42] <Eruantalon> try dxr3
[07:43] <Eruantalon> I don't have the problem here though
[07:43] <ben_m> Can't init new Video Driver dxr3 - using xv.
[07:43] <Eruantalon> hmm
[07:43] <Eruantalon> Well xv is the problem anyways.
[07:44] <xndt> hasn\t anyone here installed kubuntu on a drive with windows on it? PLEASE help
[07:44] <Eruantalon> if you use totem try gstreamer-properties
[07:45] <juano__> xndt: yes, what you need help with ?
[07:45] <xndt> i;ve booted the kubuntu CD, i am now in kde and i just ran the install application from the desktop
[07:46] <xndt> got to partitioning but there is no option called SET MOuntpoint
[07:46] <Eruantalon> ben_m: in gstreamer-properties you can select not to use xv and you can test right in hte window
[07:46] <xndt> or something like that, just LABEL
[07:47] <juano__> xndt: you should have a /root partition
[07:47] <juano__> xndt: you should make a root partition in unused space, dont touch the windows partition
[07:48] <Dr_willis> mountpoint would be called '/' i belive in the installer
[07:48] <Dr_willis> I rarely use the live cd as an installer.
[07:49] <xndt> juano__, i click FREE partition, click create and a dialog pops up with: partition type:ext3, label, size, position(beginning of unalloc space or end of unaloc space), and percent of unallocated space
[07:49] <xndt> that is all
[07:49] <xndt> no option to set it as root
[07:49] <xndt> or mountpoint
[07:49] <xndt> or nothing
[07:49] <xndt> just a LABEL field
[07:49] <juano__> xndt: after making it i believe you then edit the flags and mount
[07:50] <xndt> and if i right click the partition from the list, i have an option called SET ACTIVE
[07:50] <xndt> i've created it
[07:50] <juano__> xndt: whats the partitioner your running ?
[07:51] <xndt> something graphic from kubuntu
[07:51] <xndt> i dont know
[07:51] <juano__> xndt: name ? doesnt say ?
[07:51] <xndt> it was on the desktop under an icon called "install"
[07:51] <xndt> no\
[07:51] <juano__> xndt: yep, thats right, though it would tell the name
[07:52] <juano__> xndt: mm ok, well try editing that partition
[07:52] <juano__> xndt: what does mountpoint say ?
[07:52] <xndt> if i right click on it i have: property, format, delete and set active\
[07:52] <juano__> xndt: does it say "/"
[07:52] <xndt> it doesn't say anywhere about the mountpoint
[07:53] <juano__> xndt: go to properties , in there ?
[07:54] <xndt> if i click property, i get a popup message saying "this is a logical partition. it start at 245325 and end at blalal. it can grow from blabla to blakak. the FS is ext3"
[07:54] <xndt> that's it
[07:54] <bulldog_> anyone use openchrome?
[07:54] <xndt> oh, the popup title of the property says "Qtparted"
[07:54] <xndt> if it's any help
[07:54] <bulldog_> i cant get more than 1024x768 out of it
[07:55] <juano__> xndt: sec
[07:58] <juano__> xndt: any luck ?
[08:01] <xndt> juano__: http://www.hlds.ro/snapshot1.png
[08:01] <xndt> THERE
[08:01] <xndt> is there something wrong with that setup?
[08:01] <xndt> and do you see a mountpoint?
[08:01] <juano__> xndt: ok, sec
[08:03] <juano__> xndt: seems fine, what does set active... prompt ?
[08:04] <xndt> are you sure you want to change the active part? yes/no
[08:04] <xndt> and sets Active from sda1
[08:04] <xndt> under status
[08:04] <xndt> and puts it next to sda7
[08:04] <juano__> xndt: though i am confused... you are using the same extended partition for windows and linux ??
[08:05] <xndt> i don't know?
[08:05] <juano__> xndt: that seems wrong, you shouldnt put the 2 partitions inside the blue
[08:05] <juano__> xndt: at first i imagine you had sda1 and sda5
[08:05] <bulldog_> any gui for wpa_supplicant?
[08:05] <juano__> xndt: sda5 inside the blue lines (extended partition)
[08:06] <xndt> so what do i do? delete sda2?
[08:06] <xndt> and then create tree part all over?
[08:06] <juano__> xndt: no
[08:06] <juano__> xndt: try to leave it as it was before running the installer, paste me that pic
[08:07] <xndt> well it was the same when it was opened by the installer
[08:07] <xndt> except the last two, ext3 and linux-swap
[08:07] <xndt> was just one, type FREE
[08:08] <xndt> but that free part was also in the blue square
[08:08] <juano__> xndt: what is sda5 ? XP ?
[08:08] <carl> hi
[08:08] <xndt> sda5 is D:
[08:09] <xndt> sda1 is C with xp
[08:09] <juano__> xndt: ok
[08:09] <carl> how do I tell a program to start when KDE is up and running?
[08:09] <xndt> D; has some .. well, junk
[08:09] <xndt> i can delete it if necesary\
[08:09] <carl> i.e. aMSN...
[08:09] <juano__> xndt: well something that i think is wrong, is that you should put the linux partition outside that extended blue partition
[08:10] <xndt> jeah but i can't do that unless i delete sda2
[08:10] <juano__> xndt: you can resize it from windows
[08:10] <xndt> an create sda2 ntfs, sda3 ext and sda4 swap
[08:10] <xndt> is it ok?
[08:10] <xndt> but then again, even if i do that, i still won't have a mountpoint option
[08:10] <juano__> xndt: the swap should be inside the extended
[08:11] <juano__> xndt: only the swap
[08:11] <xndt> ok so:
[08:11] <xndt> sda2, ntfs primary
[08:11] <juano__> sda5 is ntfs
[08:12] <juano__> sda2 is extended
[08:12] <setuid_w00t> Hi, I'm considering trying kubuntu.  I'm currently using Debian unstable and I have been for a few years.  Before I start, I'm wondering if there is anything I would probably miss from Debian by using kubuntu?  Can you think of anything that might annoy me about kubuntu?
[08:12] <xndt> if i choose extended, i won't be able to select the partition type: ext, swap etc
[08:13] <xndt> this is so screwed up!
[08:13] <juano__> i would resize the extended partition to make it as almost same size to cover up the sda5
[08:13] <juano__> then i would reboot into live cd and install linux in ext3 type OUTSIDE the extended partition, and the swap partition INSIDE another ext partition
[08:15] <juano__> xndt: but before partitioning with livecd i would make more space on HDD, you should resize that D partition and make it smaller
[08:16] <xndt> what if i delete them all right nop
[08:16] <xndt> now
[08:16] <xndt> except sda1
[08:16] <xndt> and create them again?
[08:17] <juano__> xndt: youll lose all the data except whats in sda1
[08:17] <xndt> doesn't matter
[08:17] <xndt> so
[08:17] <juano__> xndt: you can delete yes the extended partition and remake partitions
[08:17] <xndt> right now i have sda1 ntfs and sda-1 free
[08:18] <juano__> xndt: give me a pic with settings now
[08:18] <xndt> just a sec\
[08:21] <xndt> juano__: http://www.hlds.ro/snapshot2.png
[08:22] <juano__> xndt: ok seems fine
[08:22] <juano__> xndt: can you enter a "/" option to mountpoint now ?
[08:23] <xndt> where?
[08:23] <xndt> there's nothing like that
[08:23] <juano__> xndt: weird, i installed with gparted in gnome
[08:23] <xndt> just active?
[08:23] <juano__> xndt: it said mountpoint : /  , etc
[08:24] <juano__> xndt: set active ...   or properties ???
[08:25] <juano__> xndt: click next maybe it prompts in next window for that
[08:25] <xndt> if i click property, i get a popup message
[08:25] <xndt> and active, sets it active
[08:25] <juano__> xndt: nothing in that message ?
[08:25] <xndt> what's that by the way?
[08:25] <xndt> nope
[08:25] <juano__> xndt: ok, try clicking next and tell me what you get
[08:26] <juano__> xndt: active partition is a partition which is capable of booting that has an OS
[08:26] <juano__> xndt: you can only have 1 active partition
[08:27] <xndt> and is it ok if windows is the active?
[08:27] <xndt> ok, i now got to the prepare mount points step :)
[08:28] <juano__> xndt: lol
[08:28] <juano__> xndt: thats what we were lookin for
[08:28] <xndt> sda1 is /media/sda1 sda3 is / and sda4 is swap\
[08:28] <juano__> xndt: perfect
[08:29] <juano__> xndt: whats sda2 too ?
[08:29] <juano__> xndt: /media/sda2 ?
[08:29] <juano__> xndt: you can configure it later though
[08:29] <xndt> sda2 is in the list but it's unformated
[08:29] <xndt> yeah that's what i left it
[08:29] <juano__> xndt: ahh right cause you deleted it
[08:29] <juano__> xndt: and your making it again
[08:30] <juano__> well everything seems fine then
[08:30] <juano__> next -->
[08:30] <xndt> nope
[08:30] <xndt> Install :D
[08:31] <xndt> when it's done, i'll have to reboot and if i don't come back in 5 mins, something went wrong :D
[08:32] <juano__> xndt: ok :-) good luck
[08:35] <nagyv> !freedroidrpg
[08:35] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[08:35] <jmichaelx> !compiz
[08:35] <ubotwo> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:39] <rEvolution27> how do i check how much free space is left on a partition?
[08:40] <phillip> rEvolution27: df
[08:42] <foo> What's the default keyboard shortcuts for switching desktops?
[08:43] <rEvolution27> thanks... are there any disk clean up and disk defrag utilities
[08:43] <SeanTater> rEvolution27: they are not needed
[08:43] <rEvolution27> really
[08:43] <SeanTater> rEvolution27: at least not for linux file systems
[08:44] <rEvolution27> someone told me there was a clean up that removed left over files from software installs
[08:44] <rEvolution27> guess you're right though
[08:44] <SeanTater> rEvolution27: that's apt, not the disk
[08:45] <SeanTater> rEvolution27: the file system does not need to be defragged,  but you can save a small amount of space by removing unneeded configuration files.
[08:45] <rEvolution27> ok
[08:46] <SeanTater> rEvolution27: If you have a large hard disk, the saved space is usually neglegible
[08:46] <rEvolution27> thanks
[08:46] <SeanTater> rEvolution27: yw
[08:47] <rEvolution27> i can't believe how much i've installed and how little space has been used
[08:47] <Dr_willis> you can save a large amount of space by removing those extra video files.. you dont want others to know about. :)
[08:47] <rEvolution27> lol
[08:47] <rEvolution27> that's on my windows partition ;)
[08:48] <juano__> rEvolution27: yea , its funny that you can have so much on linux and use so little lol
[08:48] <rEvolution27> yeh
[08:48] <juano__> rEvolution27: never happens on windows
[08:48] <lerva> just installed kubuntu today... first time ever using linux. so some very newie questions coming... I want to install firefox, so how can I do it?
[08:48] <rEvolution27> anybody know a good vidoe screen capture program?
[08:48] <nagyv> lerva: have you ever used the console?
[08:48] <SeanTater> lerva: Try opening adept
[08:48] <lerva> with add/remove programs I can't do it...
[08:49] <lerva> well.. i have used unix on uni and so on
[08:49] <rEvolution27> adept worked for me
[08:49] <nagyv> lerva: what error message do you get?
[08:49] <aib> are some update servers down? "0% [Waiting for headers] " is all I get
[08:49] <SeanTater> lerva: adept should be in the system menu.. it has a list of programs you can install, choose to install firefox and press apply changes
[08:49] <juano__> lerva: alt + F2 , konsole, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[08:50] <lerva> I can't select programs from adept. just gray unselectable boxes. I have put the root user password
[08:50] <SeanTater> juano__: shouldn't a newbie at least /start/ with the GUI?
[08:50] <SeanTater> nvm, gtg
[08:50] <aib> since I can't install `nmap', how can I determine what ports are open?
[08:51] <nagyv> lerva: try juano__'s advice
[08:52] <juano__> SeanTater: well , thats a good question, but if he installed linux we should introduce him to the free software environment which inculdes a terminal, i think hes had enough GUI with windows
[08:52] <juano__> SeanTater: hehe... well for first starters its ok
[08:53] <juano__> SeanTater: but he shouls learn terminal though, dont forget kubuntu / ubuntu is linux :-)
[08:53] <lerva> juano_: It says (In Finnish, I translated): Packet mozilla-firefox not available, but other packets is refering to that. This could meen that packet is missing, is old or available from some other source. E: Packet mozilla-firefox has no installable selection.
[08:54] <juano__> lerva: sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:54] <draik> Where does Kopete save the history logs?
[08:54] <lerva> juano_ same problem...
[08:55] <draik> lerva: what is your problem?
[08:55] <lerva> I can't install any programs
[08:55] <juano__> lerva: mm, repos problem maybe, try kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and pastebin that please
[08:55] <juano__> !pastebin | lerva
[08:55] <ubotwo> lerva: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:56] <draik> What do you mean by "can't install"
[08:56] <draik> it won't get the repos, do you get a specific error... ?
[08:57] <lerva> juano_ : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4011/
[08:57] <frojnd> does anyone know how to get inverted color in krita
[08:57] <juano__> lerva: ok just a sec
[08:58] <lerva> draik: gray boxes (unselectable) if I try through "Add/Remove Programs" and it didn't work through konsole either.
[08:58] <frojnd> nevermind :)
[08:58] <lerva> juano, np, thanks
[08:58] <draik> lerva: Try one at a time.
[08:58] <draik> lerva: I prefer konsole/Yakuake just because I love CLI
[08:58] <juano__> lerva: ok try this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4012/
[08:59] <juano__> lerva: replace the contents of that file with this one, then run sudo apt-get update
[08:59] <draik> lerva: check your source.list for hashes (#)
[08:59] <draik> you may have hash'd your repo
[08:59] <juano__> draik: yeah, i uncommented the repos for him
[09:00] <draik> Does anybody here know where to find the history file/list from Kopete chats?
[09:00] <draik> Thank you juano__
[09:00] <ich> moin
[09:00] <ich> god bye
[09:00] <lerva> juano and draik, ok it started updating
[09:00] <nagyv> !ubuntuguide.org
[09:00] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[09:00] <lerva> now ready
[09:00] <draik> lerva: Then that was your issue, hash'd repos
[09:00] <apokryphos> draik: ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/
[09:01] <draik> Thank you apokryphos
[09:01] <lerva> oh, I no idea what that means, but now everything works! thanks guys!
[09:01] <nagyv> lerva: for similar small "tricks" you can look at ubuntuguide.org, they have plenty of useful info what/how to install.
[09:01] <nagyv> lerva: and good luck with you new kubuntu! :)
[09:02] <lerva> yeah. I like this very much
[09:02] <nagyv> !repositories
[09:02] <ubotwo> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:02] <juano__> lerva: good, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox should work now
[09:02] <nagyv> !repositories | lerva
[09:02] <ubotwo> lerva: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:03] <lerva> only prob is that kubuntu install broke my windows xp home.. I tried to put they side by side... but I don't mind that much... I probably will format that other section too for linux
[09:04] <ubuntu_> hay all i need some serious help
[09:04] <ubuntu_> Some how or another my linux partition become, whats the word.. DELETED!
[09:04] <ubuntu_> I need a program, that i can use to recover data, any ideas?
[09:06] <draik> ubuntu_: graverobber?
[09:07] <ubuntu_> is that in the repos? any chance
[09:09] <will> what's the command to format a disk in fat32?
[09:09] <eMish_> Hello.  In sources.list, is 'deb URL edgy main restricted\ndeb URL edgy main universe' same as 'deb URL edgy main restricted universe' ?
[09:09] <eMish_> will: maybe mformat
[09:09] <eMish_> will: it's mkfs.vfat
[09:10] <will> I'm a newbie.  so do I just type mkfs.vfat into the command line?  do I need to assign the drive (which is at /media/sda5).  it's an external usb drive btw
[09:11] <rEvolution27> ummm guys my taskbar just dissapeared
[09:12] <rEvolution27> oh nvm it came back... how weird
[09:15] <makuseru> i want a freedom toaster
[09:15] <james_xxx> !compiz
[09:15] <ubotwo> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:16] <will> !fat32
[09:16] <ubotwo> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:17] <will> !partition
[09:17] <ubotwo> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:17] <will> !gParted
[09:17] <ubotwo> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:18] <will> !Qtparted
[09:18] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[09:18] <will> !QTParted
[09:18] <rEvolution27> this is funny.... the reason my taskbar was dissapearing is that when i was changing the number of desktops in beryl i accidentally slided to something like 2000... my both my cpu's were at 100%
[09:27] <will> when you request something at the command prompt that produces an output that is longer than the screen, what is the command to make it pause before scrolling
[09:28] <draik> How do you make k3b burn hidden files?
[09:29] <draik> I'm trying to do a full backup of what is in /home/(user)/ and it only did the visible files, not hidden
[09:29] <rEvolution27> help! i have 56 desktops and my mouse is frozen.. how do i get rid of them?
[09:30] <angasule> rEvolution27: kill X?
[09:30] <willys_fueguino> Is it possible to make the right click open the k menu?? where??
[09:31] <rEvolution27> umm but when i restart x won't i have all those desktops?
[09:31] <draik> is Keep any good?
[09:31] <draik> !backup
[09:31] <ubotwo> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:31] <esaym> I am looking for some info on fstab.  I know the last  option in each fstab line is for the "fsck pass" and it can have a value of 0, 1, or 2
[09:32] <esaym> I can't get any info as to what to use though
[09:32] <esaym> I understand a value of 0 means the the drive will never get checked
[09:32] <willys_fueguino> My taskbar has vanished... I restarted X and it stil disappeared
[09:32] <sampan> willys_fueguino  do you want a right-click on the desktop to bring up the kmenu?  if so, system settings (or kcontrol) --> desktop --> behavior and then you can set your left/right/middle mouse clicks to whatever you like
[09:32] <esaym> and I read that you want your root drive to have a value of 1 and the other partitions a value of 2
[09:33] <esaym> Can anyone explain these more to me though
[09:33] <esaym> I am wanting to make it so when fsck runs on one partition that it runs on them all
[09:33] <Dr_willis> what it 'should' do is fsck the drives that are seperate drives  at the same time.
[09:34] <esaym> I have read that you can do that but nothing explains how
[09:34] <Dr_willis> fscking hda1 and hda2 at the same time - is not a good idea
[09:34] <esaym> hmm
[09:34] <Dr_willis> fscking hda1 and hdb1 at same time - is doable.. and i THINK how it works by default
[09:34] <esaym> well that makes since
[09:34] <ubuntu__> anyone have ideas for data recovery programs?
[09:34] <Dr_willis> of course if you properly shut down and so forth - you shoudl rarely hgave to fsck.
[09:34] <willys_fueguino> sampan: ufff... that shows that I'm a total n00b with kde....
[09:35] <esaym> so just keep the values of root as 1 and the other drives and partitions as 2?
[09:35] <sampan> willys_fueguino   no worries :)  lots of settings and i get lost in them too sometimes :D
[09:35] <sredna> hi
[09:35] <willys_fueguino> anyway.. it's a temporary solutuiin 'cause I've lost my panel
[09:35] <sredna> would something terrible happen if i delete /usr/sbin/apt-index-watcher ?
[09:36] <sredna> it's making my computer unusable
[09:36] <sampan> i think i spent 2 hours looking for how to turn off the bouncy icons 2 weeks ago :/
[09:39] <schwarzh> testzeile
[09:40] <schwarzh> guten abend
[09:40] <will> anyone know how to pause outputs at the command prompt that take up more than a screen can take
[09:41] <firecrotch> will: just stick " | less" on the end of your command, like this: ls /home/will | less
[09:51] <sredna> why it /usr/sbin/apt-index-watcher running every few seconds, taking up as much CPU as it can?
[09:51] <sredna> what will happen if i delete it?
[09:52] <sredna> or is there a way i can prevent it from running except on sundays?
[09:52] <Dr_willis> !find apt-index
[09:52] <ubotu> Found: apt-index-watcher
[09:52] <Dr_willis> !info apt-index-watcher
[09:52] <ubotu> apt-index-watcher: Updater for apt-front indexes. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.9ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 698 kB, installed size 1972 kB
[09:52] <Dr_willis> Optional.. Hmm...
[09:55] <sredna> i renamed it to ANNOYING, and the world is still standing, Dr_willis
[09:55] <agus> algun espaol?
[09:55] <Skrot> !es
[09:55] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:55] <zorglu_> one have to fix the linux /dev/random :)
[09:56] <zorglu_> this stuff is so slow.
[09:56] <zorglu_> or i have to use openssl, to use /dev/urandom :)
[09:57] <zorglu_> or maybe the user will accept to wait for 20min to have his apps running ? :)))))))0
[09:57] <eguzkia> hello someone know how to install nvidia glx?
[09:57] <zorglu_> !nvidia| eguzkia
[09:57] <ubotu> eguzkia: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:57] <zorglu_> eguzkia: have you looked at this ?
[09:58] <d0dge> How can I mount .img file in linux?
[09:58] <Minataku> d0dge: mount -o loop filename.img /mount/point
[09:58] <zorglu_> hmm bchunk i thing
[09:59] <Minataku> Providing the default Kubuntu provides loopback support
[09:59] <zorglu_> oh
[09:59] <zorglu_> wow
[09:59] <zorglu_> what is this .img format ?
[09:59] <Minataku> Raw disk image
[09:59] <zorglu_> go /dev/random, i am with you
[09:59] <d0dge> Minataku: "you must specify the filesystem type"
[09:59] <zorglu_> Minataku: sure but what produce it
[09:59] <Minataku> zorglu_: If it came from a Linux system probably "dd"
[10:00] <zorglu_> hue ???
[10:00] <Minataku> d0dge: Type "file filename.img"
[10:00] <Minataku> If that fails, get this package:
[10:00] <Minataku> !disktype
[10:00] <ubotu> disktype: detection of content format of a disk or disk image. In component universe, is optional. Version 9-1 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 136 kB
[10:00] <zorglu_> so there is a guy who did a dd and put .img ? :)
[10:00] <Minataku> Then run that against it
[10:00] <zorglu_> a smart one :)
[10:00] <Minataku> zorglu_: I do it all the time
[10:00] <zorglu_> Minataku: well you should put .ext2 or .iso or etc...
[10:00] <Minataku> Same with mounting and writing, raw disk images are awesome
[10:01] <Minataku> zorglu_: Negative
[10:01] <zorglu_> well we disagree :)
[10:01] <Minataku> Extensions are for puny humans
[10:01] <zorglu_> i see :)
[10:01] <Minataku> Not for file type identification :3
[10:01] <zorglu_> well filename are made to identify the file content :)
[10:01] <Minataku> disktype is a great util
[10:01] <zorglu_> it is my weird belief :)
[10:02] <Minataku> I recommend that far above putting loads of metadata into the filename
[10:02] <zorglu_> that and the fact that /dev/random should be fixed as soon as possible :)
[10:02] <zorglu_> lets fire tso
[10:02] <Minataku> zorglu_: /dev/random is incapable of breaking
[10:02] <Dr_willis> BeOs had so much meta-data that often the metadata was larger then the actual file. :)
[10:02] <Minataku> Perhaps it's empty?
[10:02] <zorglu_> Minataku: believe me it is :)
[10:02] <zorglu_> Minataku: since feb06 or so
[10:03] <Minataku> Without a TRNG then /dev/random is filled with stray random things from random places
[10:03] <rEvolution27> sigh.. help me... beryl says i have one desktop, configure desktop says i have one desktop but the taskbar is displaying 32
[10:03] <Minataku> If you want a constant supply but with slightly less random there's always /dev/urandom
[10:03] <Minataku> Since /dev/random is a trickle-filled entropy pool
[10:04] <zorglu_> nope because i rely on gnutls/gcrypt and those are not flexible enougth to use /dev/urandom :)
[10:04] <Minataku> Then go out and buy a TRNG
[10:04] <zorglu_> sure :)
[10:04] <jbruckman> hey can anyone help me mount my USB mp3 player? I'm having some difficulties....
[10:04] <Minataku> They sell RNG generators
[10:04] <Minataku> I'm not joking
[10:04] <Minataku> s/generators//
[10:04] <zorglu_> yep and how does this fix my problem ? :)
[10:05] <jbruckman> i've tried mount -t vfat <device> <location> but it gives me an error
[10:05] <jmichaelx> a while ago , i set up beryl to run using xgl in kubuntu with an nvidia graphics card..... i then decided to switch to aiglx, and i followed the instructions in the ubuntu docs.... now X will not start, would anyone have a suggestion?
[10:05] <Minataku> zorglu_: It ensures that /dev/random is constantly full
[10:05] <Minataku> The random psuedodevice is not broken, it's a trickle-filled entropy pool
[10:05] <zorglu_> Minataku: well lets suppose they dont break it up to this point, i cant ask everybody using my code to buy this :)
[10:05] <Minataku> As such, heavy use of it will empty it
[10:06] <zorglu_> Minataku: the error is in 'heavy' :) just a 768bit rsa key gen take more than 10min
[10:06] <zorglu_> and ticking
[10:06] <Minataku> zorglu_: Then provide the option to use the psuedorandom generator rather than the random pool
[10:06] <zorglu_> hhe you are not listening :)
[10:06] <zorglu_> ohhhhhhh it did it :)
[10:07] <zorglu_> so at least 12min to generate a single 768bit rsa key :) sure it is not broken :)
[10:07] <zorglu_> jbruckman: shoot
[10:08] <kyo> Hello everybody
[10:08] <jbruckman> zorglu_: okay, so I have tried the following,a nd i know that the device is sde. sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sde /media/usb
[10:08] <jbruckman> zorglu_: however, i get a bad superblock error, even though i know it's a vfat drive
[10:08] <Dr_willis> i bet its NOT /dev/sde
[10:08] <Dr_willis> perhaps /dev/sde1
[10:09] <fernando__> I have a notebook with a AMD64 +4000 that under windows, if I compile the processor run full power but under kubuntu, as example I compile the wxwidgets library and its need so long, and its clear that the processor do not run full power, because even I can hear the fun.. what is wrong??
[10:09] <jbruckman> no.
[10:09] <Dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sde
[10:09] <Dr_willis> and see.
[10:09] <jbruckman> it's sde, i tried sde1, nothing happens.
[10:09] <Minataku> zorglu_: You're not listening. Type this in a terminal and read: "man 4 random"
[10:09] <zorglu_> Minataku: :))))))))
[10:09] <Minataku> You're not listening to me explain how the random device works
[10:09] <Minataku> So please read for yourself
[10:09] <Dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l - look at all the partitions. also plug/unplug/plug and check dmesg output for info on what its seen as.
[10:09] <kyo> WHO SPEAK FRENCH HERE?
[10:09] <Dr_willis> !fr
[10:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:09] <zorglu_> Minataku: well on the other hand i already know very well how it work :)
[10:09] <Dr_willis> ubotu,  does. :)
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about does. :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <jbruckman> dmesg | tail shows that it is seen as sde.
[10:10] <zorglu_> kenws: and caps are not needed
[10:10] <Minataku> zorglu_: Then you'd know that it's not broken at all
[10:10] <jbruckman> there's no sde1 partition.
[10:10] <Minataku> It's merely rather slow due to the way it works to provide true random data
[10:10] <jbruckman> got it.
[10:10] <zorglu_> Minataku: well we disagree :) us discussing the matter wont change it
[10:10] <Dr_willis> jbruckman,  the only thing ive ever seen show up as a /dev/sde or so forth was cdrom drives..
[10:10] <jbruckman> okay, so it was a hardware thing.
[10:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:11] <fernando__>  I have a notebook with a AMD64 +4000 that under windows, if I compile the processor run full power but under kubuntu, as example I compile the wxwidgets library and its need so long, and its clear that the processor do not run full power, because even I can hear the fun.. what is wrong??
[10:11] <jbruckman> anywho. thanks.
[10:11] <Minataku> zorglu_: I think it's safe to say you won't get the assistance you want without a hardware TRNG
[10:11] <elyon225> Hey, guys.  Where is the K-menu information stored? I'm trying to sync my menu with the other users on the system, but I can't find the config file for the menus.
[10:12] <Dr_willis> elyon225,  its generated from all the .desktop entrys on the system and somewhere in the users .kde dir also i belive
[10:12] <Minataku> Since you don't/refuse to understand that the random device works in a specific way that is indeed slow to provide properly random data
[10:12] <elyon225> Dr_willis: Well, I've looked in /.kde/ but I couldn't find anything.
[10:12] <Minataku> The fix to your problem is either obtain a hardware TRNG or use the psuedorandom device
[10:13] <jmichaelx> is it possible to access an external HD from the command line?
[10:13] <Minataku> Or, alternately, simply wait for the device to refill the pool or allow the process to take place during key generations
[10:14] <jmichaelx> my external HD is listed as 'WD USB 2' under /media, but i cannot access any directories on that drive. would anyone know why?
[10:14] <jmichaelx> via the command line, i mean
[10:15] <Minataku> And there's no disagreeing with this, if you say you know how the random device works you would know this, "disagreeing" just means you don't care and it should magically work the way you say it should otherwise it's broken
[10:16] <jmichaelx> Minataku: you seem to know a lot.... how would i access dir's on an external usb HD using the command line?
[10:16] <Minataku> jmichaelx: Is the external HDD mounted?
[10:17] <jmichaelx> Minataku: good question
[10:17] <Minataku> It could be that it made the directory in /media however failed to actually mount the drive
[10:18] <jmichaelx> would that be 'sudo mount /media/WD USB 2'?
[10:18] <jmichaelx> oh no
[10:18] <Minataku> It actually made the directory with spaces in it?
[10:18] <jmichaelx> well, i wondered if that was the problem, but yes
[10:18] <Minataku> Well
[10:18] <Minataku> Try this
[10:19] <Minataku> "sudo mount /dev/whateverthedriveis /media/WD\ USB\ 2
[10:19] <Minataku> Those \s are important
[10:19] <jmichaelx> how do i know what to type for 'whateverthedriveis'?
[10:19] <Minataku> jmichaelx: Another good question
[10:20] <Minataku> Unplug it, wait 10s, plug it back in, wait 10s then type "dmesg | tail" and pastebin it
[10:20] <jmichaelx> it isn't worth it
[10:21] <Minataku> Well, if that's too hard to do
[10:21] <jmichaelx> i just wanted to backup my /home as i am going to have to reinstall
[10:21] <Minataku> Look in /dev for entries starting with "sd"
[10:21] <Minataku> But if there are several then we'll have to pinpoint
[10:22] <jmichaelx> i looked, but is there a way to scan through the output?
[10:22] <Dr_willis> the whole automountign systems are geting smarter and dumber at th same times!
[10:22] <Minataku> jmichaelx: Well, type dmesg | less and look for it talking about the HDD
[10:23] <Minataku> It should be there somewhere after all the confusing crap at the top, so start at the bottom and work upwards
[10:23] <Minataku> Unless it was plugged in when you booted, in which case start at the top and work downwards
[10:24] <Minataku> zorglu_: Sorry for getting short with you, BTW
[10:24] <jmichaelx> Minataku: it is quite ok...
[10:24] <jmichaelx> oops
[10:24] <jmichaelx> i thought you meant me
[10:25] <Minataku> jmichaelx: No, I haven't gotten angry at you... yet
[10:25] <Minataku> XD
[10:25] <jmichaelx> question.... should an SMP kernel be used with a non-SMP motherboard?
[10:25] <Minataku> It's perfectly fine
[10:25] <Minataku> It'll see that there's only one CPU and switch to UP mode
[10:25] <jmichaelx> ok, i was trying to ge beryl working, and i wound up with a broken X
[10:25] <jmichaelx> now i'm screwed
[10:25] <Minataku> That's why default/LiveCD kernels are all SMP by default
[10:26] <jmichaelx> i see
[10:26] <Minataku> jmichaelx: Can always uninstall both then reinstall
[10:26] <jmichaelx> unstall what?
[10:26] <Minataku> Beryl and X11
[10:27] <jmichaelx> ok.... i will uninstall beryl.... but i don't think that is what did it.... i had beryl working with XGL, but decided to switch to AIGLX, and that is where the trouble began
[10:28] <Minataku> Well, undo what you did then
[10:28] <Minataku> Work backwards, and leave Beryl for now
[10:28] <jmichaelx> when you follow the docs, they have you add a repo, and install newer drivers... it also updates the kernel, and so on....
[10:28] <Minataku> Hm
[10:28] <jmichaelx> well, i would undo it all, but i don't know how to get back to the kernel i had to start out with (if that might be the problem)
[10:28] <fernando__>  I have a notebook with a AMD64 +4000 that under windows, if I compile the processor run full power but under kubuntu, as example I compile the wxwidgets library and its need so long, and its clear that the processor do not run full power, because even I can hear the fun.. what is wrong??
[10:29] <Minataku> It's more than likely still there
[10:29] <jmichaelx> Minataku: i think i'm screwed.....
[10:30] <Minataku> jmichaelx: When you boot, the old kernel probably still has an entry, if Kubuntu deletes the old kernel or even it's entry when you update then that's a really, really stupid thing they're doing
[10:30] <Minataku> fernando__: I'm sorry, but I can't understand your question
[10:31] <jmichaelx> i know a little about linux and usually have no problems.... i am sure there is a way to fix all of them, but i don't know how lol
[10:31] <jmichaelx> if i had just stayed with XGL , i would be fine
[10:32] <jmichaelx> there is probably no chance that just re-installing XGL would help me, is there?
[10:33] <Minataku> It could
[10:33] <fernando__> minataku: my processor am64 runs full power if is needed under windows
[10:33] <Minataku> jmichaelx: Worth a shot, uninstall AIGLX and reinstall XGL
[10:33] <fernando__> minataku: but in kubuntu it never runs full power
[10:33] <Minataku> Kinda follow the docs backwards if you changed any conf files
[10:33] <Minataku> fernando__: Ah, I see now, sorry about that
[10:34] <Minataku> That's bizarre, are you positive it's running slower in Linux?
[10:34] <fernando__> minataku: yes, actually I can even hear the fun
[10:35] <Minataku> fernando__: I'm not sure I know how to help with that, sorry >.<
[10:36] <fernando__> minataku thanks any way..
[10:37] <juano__> fernando__: installed with x86_64 ?
[10:38] <fernando__> juano: what do you mean?
[10:39] <fernando__> juano: I have install kubuntu for amd64 if is that what you mean..
[10:39] <juano__> fernando__: yes
[10:39] <juano__> fernando__: with the x86_64 isos
[10:40] <jmichaelx> Minataku: i think the external drive is 'sda'
[10:40] <jmichaelx> i tried to mount it, but it says i need to specify the filesystem
[10:40] <fernando__> juano: exist only 3 version of kubuntu.. and I have the compatible with amd64
[10:40] <Minataku> What the... does kubuntu disable mount from automatically checking what the filesystem is?!
[10:41] <Minataku> jmichaelx: Try sda1 instead
[10:41] <jmichaelx> ok
[10:41] <jmichaelx> ty
[10:41] <Minataku> That should correspond to the first partition
[10:41] <fernando__> juano: do you know any tools to see the current velocity of my processor?
[10:43] <elyon225> How would I go about converting a .daa to .iso?
[10:43] <Minataku> elyon225: Depends... what's .daa?
[10:43] <jenda> Quiz in #ubuntu-trivia in a few minutes! Prize for winner: Ubuntu (K/X/Edu) stickers!
[10:43] <jenda> :)
[10:43] <elyon225> Minataku: It's an image format (nero can read it)
[10:44] <Minataku> elyon225: Well, you'd probably need some bizarre converter that doesn't exist
[10:44] <Minataku> Or get a friend with Nero to convert it
[10:44] <elyon225> hmm
[10:44] <Minataku> I've never heard of .daa
[10:44] <Minataku> Run file on it
[10:44] <elyon225> .daa is really popular in Windows.
[10:44] <Minataku> file -zrk whatever.daa
[10:44] <Minataku> Tell me what it spits out
[10:45] <elyon225> Minataku: Just "data"
[10:45] <Minataku> elyon225: Damn, then it's some stupid-ass proprietary format
[10:46] <elyon225> daa stands for Direct Access Archive, by the way.
[10:46] <Minataku> Sounds like crap
[10:46] <Minataku> lol
[10:46] <elyon225> hmm... apparently PowerISO can read it (the Windows version can, anyway).   This incident will be reported."
 XD
[10:52] <Dr_willis> They are too busy putting 5k zips into rars, then password protecting them
[10:52] <Dr_willis> and then splitting the rars
[10:52] <Minataku> Nah, I've never had a pirate release that was passworded
[10:52] <Minataku> Split like all hell, yes
[10:53] <Minataku> Usually because they were originally released on usenet
[10:53] <Dr_willis> i see the lame stuff on torrents all the time.
[10:53] <Minataku> Or they're just split to be low-bandwith friendly
[10:53] <elyon225> Okay, so now how do I extract an iso?  I thought ark could do it, but I was wrong.
[10:53] <Dr_willis> and the various game-copy/nocd sites always got things packed oddly.
[10:53] <Dr_willis> you can MOUNT an .iso
[10:53] <Minataku> elyon225: You can mount it
[10:53] <Dr_willis> !iso
[10:53] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[10:53] <MrMagic> zorglu_: add the user to the admin group
[10:53] <elyon225> oh yeah.... thanks guys.
[10:53] <zorglu_> sudo adduser myfavoriteuser admin <- was my andwer :)
[10:54] <Minataku> Hm
[10:54] <Minataku> !is
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <zorglu_> MrMagic: yep meanwhile i did it :)
[10:54] <elyon225> man, I love Linux lol
[10:54] <MrMagic> :=)
[10:55] <zorglu_> we need fancy 3d coders :)
[10:55] <zorglu_> to add eyes candy to the death :)
[10:55] <Minataku> ...
[10:55] <Dr_willis> Death by Eye candy!
[10:55] <Minataku> That's the last thing anyone needs
[10:55] <zorglu_> see :)
[10:56] <zorglu_> that's the issue, people doesnt understand what a 'user' likes :)
[10:56] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I look one look at a Vista screenshot and my eye teeth fell out
[10:56] <Minataku> *rimshot*
[10:56] <zorglu_> and believe me a 'user' LOVE 3d eyecandy
[10:56] <zorglu_> window knows that, but linux doesnt get it :)
[10:56] <Minataku> zorglu_: I'm a 'user' and I ???????  Point.
[10:57] <Minataku> lol
[10:57] <Minataku> I'm an engineer(ing student)
[10:57] <Minataku> Function over form
[10:57] <Minataku> Very few exceptions
[10:57] <zorglu_> in computer ?
[10:58] <zorglu_> or math or physic
[10:58] <Little_Eagle> If Linux doesn't do eye candy why are there projects like compiz and beryl?
[10:58] <HymnToLife> zorglu_, you sense of nuance thrills me...
[10:58] <Minataku> zorglu_: Computer Engineering Technology is my major
[10:58] <Dr_willis> Little_Eagle,  and dont forget that Mettis  'thing' as well.
[10:58] <VincentMX> does AmaroK have an equalizer?
[10:58] <Dr_willis> Mettis actually had some useable eyecandy
[10:58] <zorglu_> Minataku: see not  a 'user' :)
[10:58] <zorglu_> Little_Eagle: yep beryl is definitly the good direction
[10:59] <whoopydoodie> hello everyone
[10:59] <whoopydoodie> how do I change my resolution (intel 945GM)
[10:59] <zorglu_> oh lets me find a video of what linux need :)
[10:59] <Minataku> Too bad it looks like crap and cooks up graphics cards like they were delicious strips of bacon
[10:59] <Little_Eagle> VincentMX: Yes.  It does.
[10:59] <Minataku> Mmmm... bacon
[10:59] <VincentMX> Little_Eagle: where?
[10:59] <HymnToLife> zorglu_, do you seriously think the millions of people in the world who use a computer like the very same thing ?
[10:59] <Dr_willis> Baccony!
[10:59] <elyon225> Hmm... is there a limit to how many files that can be shown when mounting an ISO?  Because I'm missing about a third of the ISO
[10:59] <ubuntu> Hi xorix
[10:59] <HymnToLife> you're laughable
[10:59] <Dr_willis> elyon225,  not that i am aware of.
[10:59] <VincentMX> nm found it
[10:59] <whoopydoodie> anyone?
[10:59] <Dr_willis> elyon225,  it should work like any other filesystem.
[10:59] <zorglu_> HymnToLife: well me and all marketing study :)