[00:50] <teward> wgrant: yeah, it helps if the system gave an OOPS ID - it got a red "Sorry, there was a timeout try again" message, no OOPS ID
[00:50] <teward> looked like it resolved itself though
[00:55] <Evgeny> Hello! Anyone here to ask about the Launchpad OpenID authentication?
[00:56] <Evgeny> had something changed in the OpenID setup on login.launchpad.net?
[01:02] <wgrant> Evgeny: That's not technically part of Launchpad, but I may be able to help. What's the problem?
[01:02] <wgrant> Nothing has changed recently.
[01:03] <Evgeny> wgrant: Thank you, we have LP openid authentication incorporated into ask.openstack.org
[01:04] <Evgeny> wgrant: which worked in the past, now we are getting "DiscoveryFailure" exception from the python openid library.
[01:04] <Evgeny> openid https://login.ubuntu.com/ works
[01:04] <wgrant> Evgeny: Ah, the certificate was changed a week ago.
[01:05] <Evgeny> wgrant: thanks, what does this mean to the admin of the site providing login via LP?
[01:05] <wgrant> Evgeny: Nothing at all if you are using any normal client.
[01:06] <wgrant> When did you first observe the breakage?
[01:06] <Evgeny> wgrant: I'd think this week
[01:06] <Evgeny> wgrant: rather within past week
[01:07] <Evgeny> wgrant: which certificate changed?
[01:07] <wgrant> Evgeny: Have you contacted StackExchange about this?
[01:07] <Evgeny> wgrant: ssl?
[01:07] <wgrant> SSL, yes.
[01:08] <Evgeny> wgrant: no, I haven't. Ok, I'll see where this info leads.
[01:08] <wgrant> The certificate configuration of login.ubuntu.com and login.launchpad.net is identical apart from the obvious hostname difference.
[01:08] <wgrant> There is no difference in the chain.
[01:08] <wgrant> So if one works but the other doesn't, the certificate change is probably unrelated.
[01:09] <wgrant> I've tried several other consumers with login.launchpad.net, and they work fine -- even other StackExchange sites.
[01:09] <wgrant> Evgeny: How exactly is that button configured?
[01:10] <Evgeny> wgrant: using python-openid and https://login.launchpad.net/ as endpoint
[01:10] <wgrant> Oh, that's not StackExchange, oops.
[01:10] <wgrant> Hmm
[01:10] <wgrant> Evgeny: I'd step through python-openid and see where it fails.
[01:11] <wgrant> But changing login.launchpad.net to login.ubuntu.com works fine?
[01:11] <wgrant> Is it possible you have a firewall in place with out of date IP addresses?
[01:11] <Evgeny> wgrant: Yes, login.ubuntu.com works and the id's are the same
[01:12] <Evgeny> no, it's on a public net
[01:12] <Evgeny> Is there a quick way to verify that the certificate has all the bundle set up?
[01:12] <wgrant> The chains on both sites are identical and correct.
[01:12] <Evgeny> It could be that the python-openid can't verify the certificate
[01:12] <Evgeny> ok
[01:13] <wgrant> Evgeny: You'll need to convince python-openid to give you a better error.
[01:14] <reed> wgrant, just adding more food for thought: "Server denied check_authentication" https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-community/+bug/1406202/comments/1
[01:14] <Evgeny> wgrant, yes I'll look into this, thanks.
[01:14] <reed> unfortunately I have to go now ... :)
[01:15] <reed> i'll check the logs later
[01:15] <wgrant> FWIW we have dozens of internal apps using python-openid to authenticate against https://login.launchpad.net/, so it's not a general problem.
[01:16] <wgrant> But it's possibly an issue with the statless vs. stateful mode.
[01:17] <wgrant> We ran into a bug with python-openid years ago, IIRC, where stateless requests on login.launchpad.net were failing because the GET string got too long and it fell back to POST, which failed, or something.
[01:17] <wgrant> It was a long time ago and I forget the details and the fix.
[01:17] <wgrant> (it only broke on login.launchpad.net because "launchpad" is slightly longer than "ubuntu")
[01:18] <wgrant> Aha
[01:18] <wgrant> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/676372
[01:18] <wgrant> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/676372/comments/5 was what I was thinking of
[01:28] <wgrant> Huh, different error now
[01:28] <wgrant> "OpenID https://login.launchpad.net/ is invalid: Error fetching XRDS document:"
[01:28] <wgrant> Is someone hacking the code live?
[01:30] <wgrant> I hope so, or you have an XSS hole :P
[01:31] <wgrant> "No route to host", anyway
[01:31] <wgrant> That really sounds a bit like a network/DNS issue at ask.openstack.org's end.
[01:35] <Evgeny> yes, I've just made it print wholly
[01:35] <Evgeny> wgrant: ping login.launchpad.net give "destination unreachable" from that host
[01:35] <wgrant> Evgeny: What does it resolve to?
[01:35] <wgrant> It moved to a new network a couple of weeks ago.
[01:36] <Evgeny> wgrant: <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:36] <wgrant> erm
[01:36] <wgrant> Check your /etc/hosts :)
[01:36] <wgrant> Should be on <IP_ADDRESS>/22 somewhere
[01:37] <Evgeny> bingo! Thanks!
[01:37] <wgrant> Heh, any idea how it ended up manually set?
[01:37] <wgrant> Ooh it even works now.
[01:38] <Evgeny> I've done it myself before, I think there were issues on massive dns queries if I remember correctly
[01:38] <Evgeny> maybe I've overdone the /etc/hosts file
[01:38] <wgrant> Perhaps have a local caching resolver, but hardcoding things in /etc/hosts is only going to bring you pain as things move around.
[01:41] <Evgeny> wgrant: Thank you, mystery solved. Bye.
[01:41] <wgrant> Excellent.
[01:42] <Evgeny> thanks for the advice


[19:37] <eeee> laspahr: i guess the file is too large to fit on the partition
[19:37] <laspahr> hmmm...
[19:37] <eeee> the one you mounted to /mnt
[19:37] <Nickd55345353> is k3b good?
[19:37] <laspahr> it's like a ~300GB
[19:37] <eeee> laspahr: try df, and see whats up
[19:37] <eeee> Nickd55345353: supposedly the best
[19:37] <Nickd55345353> better than brasero right?
[19:38] <laspahr> tried df, what do I need to look at
[19:38] <eeee> Nickd55345353: it can do more stuff i think
[19:38] <monoton> Nickd55345353: yes k3b it better they say, it is dependent on KDE though I belive.
[19:38] <Nickd55345353> do u use it guys?
[19:39] <eeee> laspahr: available space on the filesystem mounted on /mnt
[19:39] <laspahr> there's not anything that's mounted on /mnt it says
[19:39]  * monoton still burns everything with Nero in winXP :-}
[19:40] <laspahr> tried df /mnt and it's only got 2% used
[19:40] <laspahr> but the filesystem shows -
[19:40] <laspahr> so I need to remount the USB EHD?
[19:41] <andyroid> Hi
[19:41] <super> laspahr, echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host0/scan
[19:41] <guntbert> laspahr: please take it easy in <enter>, you are scrolling the channel faster than needed
[19:41] <guntbert> *on* <enter>
[19:41] <andyroid> I cannot get movile broadband to work.
[19:42] <laspahr> sorry guntbert /:
[19:42] <laspahr> super now what?
[19:42] <phunyguy> guntbert: laspahr: not to mention unopaste will mute!
[19:42] <andyroid> I fill in but it does not show up undwr connections
[19:42] <andyroid> Where can i say usb connections
[19:42] <andyroid> ?
[19:42] <eeee> andyroid: are we talking about iburst here ?
[19:42] <phunyguy> andyroid: the same applies to you, please ask your question clearly and in ONE line.
[19:43] <super> check to see if your devices is there
[19:43] <super> ls /dev/sd*
[19:43] <laspahr> yep, it has sda-sda8 and sdb-sdb2
[19:43] <super> laspahr, google it welcome to the mole city
[19:44] <super> launch nautilus
[19:44] <SamwiseGamgee> I still have the same problem with my software updater: it is downloading unsupported updates, and I don't know if that is helping me or is a security risk
[19:44] <laspahr> I can't -.-
[19:44] <SamwiseGamgee> Also, I don't recall ever enabling unsupported updates
[19:44] <phunyguy> super: google what, and what about mole city?
[19:45] <SamwiseGamgee> why do I even need unsupported updates?\
[19:45] <super> google is your map to mole city
[19:45] <SamwiseGamgee> all the apps I am using should be supported, as far as I know
[19:45] <andyroid> Ok.mobile broadband. Filled in provider and apn. Does not appear under connections. How can i view usb connections?
[19:45] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: they are backported updates
[19:45] <phunyguy> super: I still don't follow
[19:45] <SamwiseGamgee> yes, they are, whatever that means
[19:45] <GTB3NW> weird error.. on boot-up my internal speaker buzzes twice and weird random ascii characters appear. when I manually select the device to boot from (which is default) then it boots into grub fine O.o
[19:46] <laspahr> phunyguy I have a feeling he's telling me to google the problems rather than ask on here
[19:46] <super> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCVGbDf6Uws
[19:46] <SamwiseGamgee> and how come I never noticed before that I have been downloading unsupported updates?
[19:46] <phunyguy> super: please stay on topic, and don't ask people to google their answer
[19:46] <genii> GTB3NW: Sounds like some BIOS issue
[19:46] <SamwiseGamgee> If I disable downloading of unsupported updates, will some of my apps start causing problems?  Or is it safer to leave them?
[19:46] <eeee> laspahr: type df | grep /mnt and paste the output here
[19:47] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: I am not certain, but app developers release fixes to their software, which will have to be backported to older versions to be merged into ubuntu releases
[19:47] <SamwiseGamgee> It just seems that I am doing too many updates too often, updates which are hogging a lot of memory
[19:47] <GTB3NW> genii, it's only just appeared, so it's some kind of update to grub..?
[19:47] <laspahr> eeee: df: /run/user No such File or directory
[19:47] <guntbert> SamwiseGamgee: updates don't hog memory - why do you believe that?
[19:48] <genii> GTB3NW: But from what you stated, the issue occurs before Grub starts
[19:48] <laspahr> df: /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd No such file or directory
[19:48] <eeee> laspahr: df | grep /mnt
[19:48] <laspahr> same
[19:48] <SamwiseGamgee> well, I just downloaded a bunch of updates, and after I installed them, 30 min later, I get another 64 MB of updates to download
[19:48] <GTB3NW> genii, well that may be so but this has only started happening after a dist-upgrade
[19:48] <GTB3NW> there was a kernel upgrade
[19:49] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: updates don't normally use additional memory, OR hard drive space.  They replace existing files.  The only thing that takes up space may be downloaded package cache
[19:49] <eeee> laspahr: lsblk | grep /mnt
[19:49] <andyroid> so how can i view what usb devices are connected?
[19:49] <phunyguy> andyroid: lsusb
[19:49] <guntbert> andyroid: lsusb
[19:50] <SamwiseGamgee> Does that mean I should be deleting files in the package cache regularly?
[19:50] <laspahr> sdb2 8:18 0 298G 0 part /mnt
[19:50] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: iirc it does that for you
[19:50] <genii> GTB3NW: You might want to do a memtest on your system, it's possible the RAM may be going.
[19:50] <guntbert> SamwiseGamgee: only if you are *very* tight on Hard Disk space
[19:50] <SamwiseGamgee> I got 466 GB of hard disk space
[19:50] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: look into the autoclean option of apt-get
[19:50] <SamwiseGamgee> and I am using xubuntu
[19:51] <SamwiseGamgee> how do I do that, phunyguy?
[19:51] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: then you should have plenty.  What were you referencing with memory?
[19:51] <SamwiseGamgee> Referencing?
[19:51] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: sudo apt-get autoclean
[19:51] <Fishscene> sudo apt-get autoclean
[19:51] <eeee> laspahr: type ls /mnt/UbuntuBackup , is the UbuntuBackup.tar.gz there?
[19:51] <GTB3NW> genii, too coincidental IMHO
[19:51] <Fishscene> err… sorry for the double post Phunyguy. lol.
[19:52] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: yes when you mentioned you believed that updates were using too much memory
[19:52] <laspahr> eeee: yes it is
[19:52] <guntbert> SamwiseGamgee: he asked about what kind of "memory" you were taking: hard disk, RAM ?
[19:52] <guntbert> *talking
[19:52] <SamwiseGamgee> my hard drive's total capacity is about 466 GB
[19:53] <phunyguy> right, that is not "memory" hence the confusion.
[19:53] <phunyguy> that is hard drive space.  Memory refers to RAM...
[19:53] <eeee> does anybody know how to get the uncompressed size of a tar.gz zipped archive ?
[19:53] <SchrodingersScat> man tar
[19:53] <phunyguy> and if you have 466GB hard drive space, then you should not be having any hard drive space issues.
[19:53] <SchrodingersScat> oops
[19:54] <genii> GTB3NW: It's almost impossible for an update to either Grub or to the kernel to affect your hardware prior to those things being loaded. You say this issue is happening before you choose a device to boot from, so neither is in memory yet. Random ascii characters on the screen are usually corrupt bios or corrupt video ram.
[19:54] <Lope> if I run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, and then I want to do apt-get install ... should I do another update before the install?
[19:54] <Lope> is it possible that dist-upgrade can change the apt sources?
[19:54] <phunyguy> Lope: you shouldn't need to
[19:54] <eeee> its in gzip
[19:54] <phunyguy> Lope: and no
[19:54] <Lope> ok
[19:55] <andyroid> So my mobile internet usb is listed with lsusb. But it is not shown under connections. I have fiven apn. Any ideas?
[19:55] <eeee> SchrodingersScat: gzip -l
[19:55] <SamwiseGamgee> Yeah, but I was thnking long-term, phunyguy, all those downloaded uupdates will add up, and I figure some of them may present stability or security problems if they are unsupported
[19:55] <SchrodingersScat> eeee: great, thanks
[19:55] <eeee> thanks anyways
[19:55] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: no, that shouldn't be a concern.
[19:55] <eeee> laspahr: type gzip -l /mnt/UbuntuBackup/Ubu....tar.gz
[19:55] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: if apt is doing what it should be doing, you should never be concerned with that
[19:55] <SamwiseGamgee> Is auto clean command safe and how often should I use it?
[19:56] <Nikki3> hello guys
[19:56] <Nikki3> can someone list me a good program for interior designing?
[19:56] <Nikki3> ty
[19:56] <phunyguy> Nikki3: in Ubuntu?
[19:56] <andyroid> Any swedish people with comviq here?
[19:56] <Nikki3> yes
[19:56] <laspahr> compressed:<PHONE_NUMBER> uncompressed:<PHONE_NUMBER>
[19:57] <phunyguy> Nikki3: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/sweethome3d/
[19:57] <Nikki3> is it good?
[19:57] <phunyguy> Nikki3: I have no idea
[19:57] <phunyguy> Nikki3: you should just try it
[19:57] <Nikki3> i am an architect
[19:57] <Nikki3> so i need it for my worklol
[19:57] <andyroid> Do i need to supply netqirk id for mobile broasband?
[19:58] <phunyguy> Nikki3: then it is up to you to choose some to try, and then try them to see if they fit your needs.
[19:59] <GTB3NW> genii, no, this is happening after it tries to boot into grub
[19:59] <GTB3NW> when I don't select a device
[19:59] <GTB3NW> it picks the default device
[19:59] <GTB3NW> which errors
[19:59] <andyroid>  Is it possible to surf via your smartphone?
[19:59] <GTB3NW> but when I select that same default..
[19:59] <guntbert> SamwiseGamgee: I never use it at all, and I have only 30GB hard disk on some machines
[19:59] <GTB3NW> manually.. it works fine
[19:59] <phunyguy> GTB3NW: be careful before unopaste mutes you
[20:00] <hsnopi> so I'm working with ubuntu 12.04LTS in EC2. I see devices in /dev and fstab has a /dev/xvdb but there is no vdb or xvdb in /dev/ I think it is using /dev/xvda1 but I can't tell. Is there a way to somehow verify this?
[20:00] <SamwiseGamgee> thanks guntbert and phunyguy
[20:00] <guntbert> SamwiseGamgee: no problem :)
[20:00] <laspahr> eeee: does that help?
[20:00] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: my root partition only has 10GB.  It's fine.
[20:00] <laspahr> or is it correct?
[20:02] <SamwiseGamgee> yeah, I was thinking of customizing my partitions when I was installing xubuntu, to better use the 466 GB of available memory
[20:02] <eeee> laspahr:
[20:02] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: not memory!  Hard drive space!
[20:02] <genii> GTB3NW: If you think it's a Grub update, you can revert it by way of: sudo apt-get install grub=<prior version number here which I don't offhand know>
[20:03] <laspahr> eeee: ?
[20:03] <GTB3NW> okay, will give it a go genii, thanks
[20:03] <eeee> laspahr: type df | grep /dev/sd(the home one i think it had a 7)
[20:03] <newbie|3> Still a problem with wine - after sudo rm -rf ¬\.wine
[20:03] <eeee> sda7 or sdb7
[20:03] <rbowlby> stupid question time: can I use a raring repo on trusty for a package that's not avail in trusty yet?
[20:03] <eeee> laspahr: run that and paste the line
[20:03] <newbie|3> super: still a problem after rm -rf /.wine ...
[20:04] <k1l_> rbowlby: no.
[20:04] <bprompt> hsnopi:     I have 12.04  not sure on the ec2 part... but I don't even have an xvda either, goes rom video0 to zero
[20:04] <laspahr> can't paste, but it's 18%.. I have to go so I can't give exact #s
[20:04] <k1l_> rbowlby: that will most likely break your package ystem
[20:04] <hsnopi> bprompt yeah. I figured that might be the case. thanks:)
[20:04] <eeee><PHONE_NUMBER>, whats the second set of numbers?
[20:04] <rbowlby> k1l_ any way to get this one pkg from raring?
[20:04] <rbowlby> hsqldb-server
[20:05] <eeee> laspahr: it should be less than that number i pasted above
[20:05] <rbowlby> this would often work on RH distros, I would just set the priority of the old repo such that it didn't interfere
[20:05] <laspahr> it is smaller, the middle is 8 digits
[20:05] <laspahr> 5+29++83
[20:05] <laspahr> danggit
[20:05] <laspahr> 46189972
[20:05] <laspahr> sorry, gtg
[20:06] <eeee> wait sorry
[20:06] <k1l_> rbowlby: which package is it?
[20:06] <eeee> i think df gives the space
[20:06] <rbowlby> hsqldb-server
[20:06] <eeee> in blocks
[20:06] <eeee> laspahr: sorry man
[20:06] <rbowlby> k1l_ ^
[20:07] <eeee> laspahr: when you get back ask to see how to get the size of /home and compare, see ya
[20:07] <andyroid> How do i check mac addreas of my device?
[20:07] <newbie|3> super: Any help ... E: wine1.6: package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal
[20:08] <k1l_> rbowlby: there is a package without -server. you need that package with -server?
[20:08] <rbowlby> k1l_ I want the init script and ready to go daemonized goodies
[20:09] <rbowlby> or perhaps something else now provides /etc/init.d/hsqldb-server?
[20:09] <rbowlby> what's the equiv of yum provides?
[20:09] <bprompt> andyroid:     try ->   lshw -c Network
[20:09] <rbowlby> sorry, my debian distro experience is embarrassingly lacking
[20:13] <k1l_> rbowlby: sorry that is not my kind of business. did they eventually drop the -server package and include that into the main package?
[20:14] <rbowlby> not that I can tell
[20:14] <SamwiseGamgee> Phunyguy, guntbert, I still think there are some problems with my software updater settings, take a look....http://imgur.com/a/9baVi
[20:14] <rbowlby> it just hasn't been updated/built for trusty yet
[20:15] <SamwiseGamgee> sorry, phunyguy, http://imgur.com/a/9baVi
[20:15] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: I do not see a problem there
[20:15] <SamwiseGamgee> ok, phunyguy, I can leave them all the way they are?
[20:16] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: why do you think there may be an issue?
[20:16] <phunyguy> What makes you think that I mean?
[20:16] <SamwiseGamgee> Because it looks like my updaters settings were changed without my permission
[20:16] <k1l_> rbowlby: i doubt the " it just hasnt been build" idea. there will be no new packages for trusty because of the freeze in development stage
[20:16] <guntbert> SamwiseGamgee: I agree with phunyguy - lokks just like I have it - "unsupported" means that Canonical don't provide support
[20:17] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: that is the default.
[20:17] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: that updates tab is the default.
[20:17] <k1l_> rbowlby: so it may be that you are on the old path, with is the wrong path due to some changes. but that is only guessing on my side
[20:17] <SamwiseGamgee> ok, good, that means I can leave things alone and just keep updating without having to autoclean?
[20:17] <rbowlby> k1l_ the change log for trusty said no one has bothered to build/verify it yet
[20:18] <guntbert> SamwiseGamgee: exactly, you should be fine
[20:18] <rbowlby> I did an apt-file search /etc/init.d/hsqldb-server and nothing provides it.
[20:18] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: this was a new thing in the 12.04 release... from the notes: Backports are now more easily accessible -- to enable users to more easily receive new versions of software, the Ubuntu Backports repository is now enabled by default. Packages from backports will not be installed by default — they must explicitly be selected in package management software. However, once installed, packages from backports will automatically be upgraded to
[20:18] <phunyguy> newer versions.
[20:18] <sloppyf> Hey all. I remotely mounted a directory via ssh using sshfs. My problem is though, that I cannot actually view the contents of the directory without being root
[20:19] <phunyguy> SamwiseGamgee: that repository is how said backports get updated
[20:19] <sloppyf> I checked the permissions of the hard drive itself and all of that is okay (777)
[20:19] <rbowlby> k1l_ I doubt there's a better way of running hsqldb that doesn't at least include an init script. ¯\(ツ)/¯
[20:19] <SamwiseGamgee> that sounds good, phunyguy
[20:19] <sloppyf> Anyone know what I need to do?
[20:19] <phunyguy> sloppyf: did you mount it as root?
[20:20] <k1l_> rbowlby: well, no -server packages for trusty and utopic and i dont see why or that its missing. best is to file a bug and see what the maintainer says: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hsqldb
[20:20] <sloppyf> phunyguy: yes
[20:20] <phunyguy> sloppyf: then that is probably the issue
[20:20] <compdoc_> sloppyf, the ownership of the dir ?
[20:20] <phunyguy> sloppyf: sshfs is a fuse filesystem, meaning you mount as an individual user.
[20:20] <sloppyf> ahh
[20:21] <genii> compdoc_: That's my suspicion, the shared files don't belong to the user trying to view them.
[20:21] <phunyguy> and iirc, sshfs also presents everything as being owned by the user mounting the share
[20:22] <phunyguy> sloppyf: so in this case, you mount as root, that makes all files owned by root, and if non-root users don't have +x permission to the directory, they cannot list contents
[20:23] <phunyguy> ....if that makes sense
[20:23] <sloppyf> phunyguy: it does. thank you
[20:24] <SamwiseGamgee> phunyguy, guntbert, thanks for explaining things so well
[20:24] <phunyguy> we aim to please.
[20:25] <phunyguy> on that note, I need to step away for a bit.
[20:25] <SamwiseGamgee> bonne journee
[20:29] <newbie|3> super: any ideas?
[20:30] <hsnopi> so, i have a device xvdb, i do a fdisk and create it as all one primary partition, i do fdisk -l and it shows a partition, then per some instructions i found I mkfs of type ext4, i do fdisk -l again and it shows no partition. yes I can still mount it. is the fdisk portion even necessary?
[20:30] <super> newbie|3, whats the question? wasn't here
[20:30] <super> hsnopi, so you want to mkfs.vfat or mkfs.ext /dev/sdX
[20:31] <hsnopi> ok
[20:31] <newbie|3> super: I was Giest ... with the wine partial installation
[20:31] <hsnopi> thanks
[20:31] <super> oh okay newbie|3 you still stuck with the wine problem right
[20:31] <newbie|3> yup
[20:32] <super> newbie|3, sudo apt-add-repository --remove ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[20:32] <CrusaderAD> Anyone else finding empathy completely useless?
[20:32] <super> newbie|3, sudo apt-get --purge remove wine
[20:32] <guntbert> !ot | CrusaderAD
[20:32] <newbie|3> now the problem is with wine 1.6
[20:33] <super> empathy need webcam support
[20:33] <newbie|3> super: the problem now resides in wine1.6
[20:33] <super> sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[20:34] <super> i say remove all traces of wine
[20:34] <CrusaderAD> I'm seeing two issues with empathy, 1.) the first incoming message is blank and 2.) the styles are initially broken on a fresh install... anyone know of a solution to #1?
[20:34] <brucelee> anyone know how to get ubuntu to not boot into a blankscreen
[20:34] <brucelee> it doesnt even show the grub menu
[20:34] <super> brucelee, hold down the Shift key
[20:34] <brucelee> it posts, and does all the bios stuff, raid stuff, and as soon as it gets to the part where its supposed to show grub screen, and then OS
[20:34] <brucelee> its just a blank screen
[20:34] <brucelee> super: ok let me try that
[20:35] <brucelee> super: whats that supposed to do? :P
[20:35] <genii> brucelee: If Ubuntu is the only OS, it won't show Grub by default.
[20:35] <daftykins> brucelee: there is no GRUB display anymore, not for years... as mentioned left shift at boot will display it.
[20:35] <super> it will bring up the grub menu
[20:35] <CrusaderAD> brucelee: do you get the same result booting to a usb live session?
[20:35] <brucelee> i havent tried usb live session
[20:35] <brucelee> let me try rebooting / shift key and see if it works
[20:35] <brucelee> right now im at a blank screen via console
[20:35] <CrusaderAD> brucelee: that will tell you if it's your install or not
[20:36] <brucelee> ok
[20:36] <brucelee> im pretty sure its my OS.. but let me try again
[20:36] <newbie|3> super: Did that.  Somewhat better, but still problem with wine 1.6 and winetricks
[20:37] <newbie|3> super: Dependency problems
[20:38] <brucelee> i did it
[20:38] <super> newbie|3, rm -rf $HOME/.wine
[20:38] <super> rm -f $HOME/.config/menus/applications-merged/wine*
[20:38] <super> rm -rf $HOME/.local/share/applications/wine
[20:38] <super> rm -f $HOME/.local/share/desktop-directories/wine*
[20:38] <super> rm -f $HOME/.local/share/icons/????_*.xpm
[20:38] <brucelee> shift works :P
[20:38] <brucelee> thanks
[20:38] <super> rm -rf ~/ instead of $HOME
[20:38] <LittleLilo> when i try to /nick Lillo i get this error, why do i keep getting this error? http://picpaste.com/996cc857e1b09b75fdcf3248e347bbdc.jpg
[20:38] <brucelee> i mean shift works to get the grub menu to boot up, but after i boot ubuntu, its still a blank screen
[20:39] <genii> !nomodeset | brucelee
[20:40] <genii> brucelee: Try the nomodeset and if that doesn't work let us know
[20:40] <brucelee> right now after the linux /vmlinuz line, its quiet splash nomodeset $vt_handoff
[20:40] <brucelee> yeah i tried the nomodeset one
[20:40] <brucelee> also tried consoleblank=0
[20:40] <genii> brucelee: What video card?
[20:40] <brucelee> but those are the only 2 i know of though
[20:40] <brucelee> its a supermicro onboard
[20:40] <trijntje> !en
[20:40] <brucelee> i dont know the exact one, but i can find out i guess
[20:40] <trijntje> !rm
[20:41] <genii> brucelee: Can you boot to the recovery?
[20:41] <guntbert> brucelee: please take it easy on <enter>, you are scrolling the channel faster than needed
[20:41] <CorruptedHelix> http://smashinglim.es/i/pfOyzN.png Any reason why this is grayed out on an Ubuntu guest machine? https://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/ws_running_shared_folders.html states it'll work with a Linux kernel version of 2.4 or higher, and I can only assume that Lubuntu does indeed have a kernel version higher than this.
[20:41] <brucelee> genii: you mean using live cd? guntbert sorry
[20:41] <super> http://www.nyutech.com/2009/03/how-to-install-and-completely-remove.html
[20:41] <genii> brucelee: No, by choosing it from the Grub menu
[20:42] <brucelee> genii: how do i choose recovery? im in the screen where i can edit the boot options now
[20:42] <super> brucelee, select the advance option
[20:42] <genii> Work, afk a few
[20:42] <newbie|3> super: I did all those rm things to get rid of wine
[20:42] <brucelee> oh i see, the (recovery mode)
[20:42] <brucelee> let me try that
[20:43] <newbie|3> super: Another set of commands?
[20:43] <zleap> what causes a dialog box in ubuntu 14.04 to say system problem detected,  i am trying to help in #dcglug,  system has been upgraded to 14.04 and now there seems to be lots of issues
[20:43] <brucelee> super, recoverymode seems to work, i see a bunch of stuff scrolling
[20:43] <guntbert> zleap: thats whoopsie, calls apport
[20:43] <brucelee> it gets to this part where it says "mei: Init hw failure"
[20:43] <zleap> ok
[20:43] <super> newbie|3, ls -a | grep wine
[20:44] <super> see if theres any wine stuff left
[20:44] <zleap> if I try and report problems i don;t get any suggestion something has been sent,  let alone how and to whom
[20:45] <brucelee> googling, and seems to be this "blacklist mei" option
[20:45] <zleap> ok so back to my system also says system problem detected, how do I work out what has caused the problem to cause apport to display the message
[20:46] <Beldar> brucelee, Try a live ubuntu to rule out any actual failure to staqrt with.
[20:46] <Beldar> start*
[20:47] <newbie|3> super: The command ls -a.... is not responding
[20:47] <brucelee> Beldar: ah ok, i dont have a ubuntu live cd, ill have to make one using usb
[20:47] <brucelee> do you know if it supports that off top of your head?
[20:47] <Beldar> newbie|3, what does uname -a show
 do you know if it supports that off top of your head? A usb? Yes
[20:48] <super> newbie|3, you get blank right?
[20:48] <newbie|3> Linux steve-MS-7502 3.13.0-32-lowlatency #57-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Tue Jul 15 04:08:59 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:48] <newbie|3>
[20:49] <newbie|3> super: the uname thing got me the last info.  The ls -a just hung
[20:49] <rickiestrick> hey guys. I was just in here talking about ssfs. It all worked great except that I could not write to the mounted directory. So I unmounted it and was just going to figure out what was going on. I later tried to mount it again but now I'm getting is, "fuse: bad mount point `/media/jr/pi/': Transport endpoint is not connected"
[20:49] <Beldar> newbie|3, Thanks, "is not responding" is a bit vague, why are you running it and can you explain in more detail?
[20:50] <rickiestrick> I can't delete the file as root because it says I don't have permissions....so does anyone know what is going on?
[20:50] <reisio> rickiestrick: sshfs?
[20:50] <reisio> rickiestrick: only gives perms to the original user, by default
[20:50] <newbie|3> Beldar: super told me to see ls -a  | grep wine to see if wine was still on my computer
[20:50] <reisio> rickiestrick: FUSE THING
[20:51] <reisio> rickiestrick: FUSE thing, even
[20:51] <reisio> rickiestrick: try fusermount -uz
[20:51] <beta> I am trying to set up USB mobile broadband. I have configued with "Edit connections", set up my APN, etc. It is not displayed under connections. I use comviq (swedish) if that is to any help. Can someone help me? What could I be doing wrong?
[20:51] <Beldar> newbie|3, I have found super to be really helping but muddling things up.
[20:51] <newbie|3> Beldar: I'm trying to fix a partial installation of wine that messed a lot of stuff up
[20:51] <rickiestrick> reisio: what does that do?
[20:51] <Beldar> newbie|3, Try ##wine
[20:51] <rickiestrick> unmount?
[20:51] <reisio> rickiestrick: sometimes it will work better than -u alone
[20:52] <rickiestrick> reisio: ah
[20:52] <Beldar> newbie|3, Sorry #winehq
[20:52] <newbie|3> Beldar: Wine seems to be messing up the rest.  Broken things, dependency problems
[20:52] <reisio> though you'll still want to run it as the user it was mounted with
[20:52] <marcuy> I have installed language packs in U14.04 but none appear under the login screen language icon, any ideas?
[20:52] <rickiestrick> reisio: it worked. great! so why can't I write files to it?
[20:52] <reisio> rickiestrick: to what?
[20:52] <newbie|3> Beldar: And for the moment, it is wine 1.6 that is sticking
[20:52] <rickiestrick> reisio: the remote directory I mounted
[20:53] <reisio> rickiestrick: you were trying to write as root to a mount mounted by non-root?
[20:53] <Beldar> newbie|3, I know nothing about wine and would never advise using, but I'm biased.
[20:53] <rickiestrick> reisio: no, I was just trying to drag and drop a file to it
[20:53] <reisio> rickiestrick: that's writing
[20:53] <reisio> rickiestrick: what user did you mount it as? What user did you drag and drop as?
[20:53] <super> Beldar, I run wine so I can play Starcraft 2 and guild wars
[20:53] <rickiestrick> reisio: yes,
[20:53]  * reisio runs wine so he can play intoxication
[20:54] <reisio> rickiestrick: not a yes or no question :)
[20:54]  * Beldar is not a gamer and would use windows for windows games
[20:54] <newbie|3> Beldar: Thx anyway and thx for the advice to change the channel
[20:54] <rickiestrick> reisio: I missread. I mounted it as the same user I am dragging files to it as
[20:54] <newbie|3> bye
[20:54] <reisio> many win32 games actually perform better via Wine than under Windows proper
[20:54] <reisio> sad but true
[20:54] <reisio> rickiestrick: what does 'mount' say about it?
[20:55] <rickiestrick> reisio: what exact command do you want me to enter? I am new to all of this
[20:55] <rickiestrick> just mount?
[20:55] <reisio> rickiestrick: 'mount | grep -i name_of_mount'
[20:56] <rickiestrick> reisio: please hold
[20:56] <reisio> or just 'mount', but we only care about the one line dealing with the specific mount point in question
[20:56] <mustmodify> I need to document setting up my dev environment. To make sure I've got everything, I'd like to create a vm. Is there an easy solution for that? Or is it pretty much always a PITA?
[20:56] <piatthack> irc://irc.devilirc.org/PapRiKa3
[20:56] <piatthack> irc://irc.devilirc.org/PapRiKa
[20:56] <reisio> piatthack: I'll get right on that
[20:56] <reisio> mustmodify: VMs are simple
[20:57] <reisio> mustmodify: you want to test that you are sure of the steps to duplicate your setup?
[20:57] <mustmodify> yes
[20:57] <Guest16638> how could i get plugins for my gmusicbrowser whenevere i play a some is show missing plugin
[20:57] <reisio> mustmodify: and the host OS is Ubuntu?
[20:57] <mustmodify> yes
[20:57] <super> Guest16638, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:57] <reisio> mustmodify: okay, virtualbox is the most straightforward VM system
[20:57] <mustmodify> reisio: I understand that's not a given, but given the chanel... ha ha
[20:57] <Ethern0T> heyo
[20:58] <reisio> mustmodify: it is now, 'cause you said :p
[20:58] <piatthack> irc://irc.devilirc.org/PapRiKa
[20:58] <reisio> !ops piatthack spam
[20:58] <reisio> ubottu: no chance of that
[20:58] <mustmodify> reisio: ok I'll check it out.
[20:58] <rickiestrick> reisio: do I need to have the remote directory mounted before I run the mount command?
[20:58] <reisio> mustmodify: install it, click its create vm button, add your install media in prefs as 'storage', boot, it's all pretty straightforward
[20:58] <reisio> rickiestrick: yup
[20:58] <mustmodify> reisio: ah
[20:58] <reisio> rickiestrick: how're you mounting it, btw?
[20:58] <rickiestrick> reisio: that is an issue now. I cannot mount it.
[20:58] <reisio> rickiestrick: how're you trying to
[20:59] <mustmodify> so I'm running server. But I guess I can start an x server and SSH in.
[20:59] <reisio> mustmodify: mmm
[20:59] <rickiestrick> reisio: sshfs address:/mnt/data /media/jr/pi/
[20:59] <zleap> ok the issue here is that user has upgraded to 14.04 and now can't get anything other then the desktop wallpaper after logging in
[20:59] <reisio> mustmodify: you can run it headless, but it's... less straightforward
[20:59] <reisio> mustmodify: you don't have a desktop you can do this from? :p
[20:59] <reisio> rickiestrick: sshfs user@address:remote_path local_path is the normal way
[21:00] <rickiestrick> reisio: that is the command I am using
[21:00] <reisio> rickiestrick: okay, and if you ls -al /media/jr/, what user owns pi?
[21:00] <reisio> rickiestrick: additionally, /media/ is more for dynamic (non-explicit/manual) mounts
[21:00] <hsnopi> If I wanted to move /home to a second drive mounted on /mnt/home would I need to make /mnt/home 777?
[21:00] <reisio> I'd use another place for manual mounts
[21:00] <mustmodify> reisio: I have an odd... but awesome... setup. I'm a dev/consultant working from home. All my clients have windows, so I feel like I should have it, too, so I have a chance of seeing their issues.
[21:00] <reisio> I use /mnt, but you can use anything, including, for example, ~/pi
[21:01] <reisio> mustmodify: :p
[21:01] <rickiestrick> reisio: want me to paste everything it outputted for that command? it's 4 lines
[21:01] <reisio> mustmodify: and you probably have a desktop at home?
[21:01] <mustmodify> reisio: so I have two machines... one i7 running windows, one running ubuntu. With 16GB ram and an i7, the ubuntu machine is generally near a load of 0.01. :)
[21:01] <reisio> rickiestrick: via the 'pastebinit' app, sure
[21:01] <reisio> mustmodify: heh
[21:01] <rickiestrick> reisio: please hold
[21:01] <mustmodify> I SSH into the ubuntu machine.
[21:01] <blarg2> So I have an old laptop that doesn't support USB booting and with a broken CD-Drive. It currently has a very old version of ubuntu installed. I want to install the latest ubuntu server. Is there a way to load/start the installer from inside the old ubuntu version. Or failing that put the installer on the disk so I can reboot into it?
[21:02] <rickiestrick> reisio: http://pastebin.com/4Y7wgtv4
[21:03] <reisio> blarg2: yeah...
[21:03] <pinPoint> has anyone here migrated from 12.04 to 14.04 without hitch?
[21:03] <blarg2> reisio: What's the method?
[21:03] <reisio> blarg2: you can't just take the hard disk out and install from another box and put it back in?
[21:03] <rickiestrick> reisio: did you get my paste?
[21:03] <reisio> rickiestrick: yup
[21:04] <blarg2> I don't think I have the adapters. From memory it is not a SATA drive.
[21:04] <blarg2> reisio: ^
[21:04] <Beldar> pinPoint, Some do some don't be prepared for any contingency, most probably have no issue is my "guess"
[21:04] <reisio> rickiestrick: root owns that dir, so naturally your non-root user will not be able to mount to it
[21:04] <reisio> rickiestrick: sudo chown yourUser:yourUser /media/jr/whatever/pi
[21:04] <reisio> rickiestrick: but if it were me, I'd use ~/pi instead of /media...blah
[21:04] <reisio> as /media is an odd place
[21:04] <reisio> blarg2: mmm
[21:05] <rickiestrick> reisio: but when I log in as root it says I do not have permissions to do anything to the file pi
[21:05] <rickiestrick> folder*
[21:05] <reisio> rickiestrick: says when?
[21:05] <pinPoint> Beldar: I see.
[21:05] <pinPoint> got nginx/apache servers and other stuff running...
[21:05] <rickiestrick> reisio: hold on.  It was indeed mounting it....
[21:06] <reisio> blarg2: well you could tell GRUB to boot an install imgae
[21:06] <reisio> blarg2: image*
[21:06] <rickiestrick> reisio: let me look around to get my facts straight
[21:06] <Beldar> pinPoint, 12.04 is a longterm if it were me I would run it.
[21:06] <reisio> blarg2: depending on how much time you spend on this, it might be more worthwhile to bin the computer, though
[21:06] <reisio> rickiestrick: righto
[21:06] <wuschLOR> hi there i got a problem with my grub 2 i want to add a menu entry to boot from another hdd (full truecrypted HDD) but i cant find any working instructions on the web (running 14.04 KDE)
[21:07] <reisio> wuschLOR: for the truecrypt part in particular, you mean?
[21:07] <DanielSa> exit
[21:07] <ikonia> !grub2 | wuschLOR
[21:08] <rickiestrick> reisio: ok so the issue seems to be that while I have permission to write to the mounted directory. I do not have permission to write to any of the files within the directory
[21:08] <blarg2> reisio: Hrm. Thank you for the advice. I'm currently attempting to take the HDD out to check it's connectors.
[21:08] <reisio> rickiestrick: chown -R, then
[21:08] <rickiestrick> reisio: thanks
[21:08] <reisio> rickiestrick: well
[21:08] <pinPoint> Beldar: until 2017... so I should hang on then?
[21:08] <reisio> rickiestrick: be careful what you run that on, though :)
[21:09] <reisio> blarg2: FWIW, an ide/sata combination (or just one or the other) adapter/enclosure is no more than $20
[21:09] <reisio> blarg2: and they're quite handy to have
[21:09] <Beldar> pinPoint, Seems to be a best of the solutions and image/back it up, however that is my subjective opinion.
[21:09] <rickiestrick> reisio: what do you mean?
[21:09] <reisio> rickiestrick: well I don't know what you're mounting
[21:09] <reisio> rickiestrick: you wouldn't want to chown -R a whole OS hierarchy, for example, that would break it horribly
[21:09] <Beldar> pinPoint, My main point however is always be prepared for anything. ;)
[21:09] <rickiestrick> reisio: concatenated hard drives that are connected via usb to a raspberry pi
[21:10] <pinPoint> Beldar: indeed
[21:10] <reisio> chown -R'ing a whole directory tree of personal data, however, for a particular user, that doesn't contain any fancy repos, could be no problem
[21:10] <rickiestrick> reisio: yeah it's not where the OS is installed :)
[21:10] <reisio> sure, just FYI
[21:10] <wuschLOR> grub 2 is running perfectly - i just want to get an entry for my old windows hdd - i can boot it if i set the other hdd via bios as boot hdd but i hoped to integrate it to the grub
[21:10] <rickiestrick> reisio: thanks
[21:10] <reisio> rickiestrick: how're they concatenated?
[21:10] <blarg2> reisio: Noted. It is a laptop EIDE though. Which from memory is distinct from the desktop EIDE?
[21:10] <rickiestrick> reisio: lvm level 0
[21:10] <Beldar> wuschLOR, Have you tried sudo update-grub
[21:10] <reisio> wuschLOR: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Talk:GRUB#GRUB2_.2B_Windows_7_TrueCrypt-encrypted_partition
[21:11] <reisio> blarg2: I doubt it
[21:11] <rickiestrick> reisio: I understand level 0 is not advised. I am not worried about a hard drive failing
[21:11] <reisio> blarg2: unless it's so crazy old it is absolutely not worth bothering with
[21:11] <reisio> blarg2: #hardware would know
[21:11] <blarg2> I;ll look into it.
[21:11] <blarg2> How would I do an in-place upgrade by making GRUB boot to an image?
[21:11] <blarg2> *an install image
[21:11] <reisio> rickiestrick: hrmm, well, good luck whatever you're doing :)
[21:11] <wuschLOR> yes didnt add any entry
[21:11] <rickiestrick> reisio: just experimenting :)
[21:11] <reisio> blarg2: well once you've booted the image, it's the same as any other live OS install
[21:12] <wagle> i cant upgrade my HWE, what do i do: http://pastebin.com/Vu6ZHm3q
[21:12] <wuschLOR> reisio i will try that
[21:12] <mustmodify> reisio: Any implications to selecting 32 vs 64 bit for image size, speed, etc?
[21:12] <reisio> blarg2: if you have a swap partition, put the image there, then you can install to the rest of the partition space, and afterwards turn it back into a swap partition
[21:12] <blarg2> What image would I need? Just an install ISO?
[21:12] <reisio> blarg2: yup, any ordinary install image
[21:12] <blarg2> just dd it to the partition?
[21:13] <reisio> mustmodify: hrmm?
[21:13] <Beldar> wagle, Are you trying to add the trusty stack to 12.04?
[21:13] <super> or use Disks to restored image
[21:13] <reisio> mustmodify: oh for virtualization
[21:13] <mustmodify> :P
[21:13] <wagle> Beldar: i think so
[21:13] <reisio> mustmodify: you won't notice either way, I'd do same arch personally
[21:13] <rickiestrick> reisio: when i use the recursive chown, do I need to do that remotely, to the point I have mounted the directory? Or on the remote machine itself?
[21:14] <reisio> mustmodify: unless you can do 64-bit in 32, 'cause then you could debug 64-bit problems as well
[21:14] <Beldar> wagle, You think so, where did you bet that install set and why?
[21:14] <Beldar> get*
[21:14] <reisio> rickiestrick: actually I doubt you want to do a chown -R
[21:14] <rickiestrick> reisio: then what should I use?
[21:14] <reisio> rickiestrick: so tell me again, you mount it, then you try to write it as the user you mounted with and you get ... what error?
[21:14] <wagle> Beldar: hwe-support-status --verbose gave it
[21:15] <Beldar> wagle, look here if the 14.04 stack is what you want in 12.04 and have not already put a stack in earlier. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[21:15] <rickiestrick> reisio: permissions error. so, I can make new files in pi/ but not in pi/examplefolder
[21:15] <yorwos> hi all , im using ubuntu studio 13.10 , is there any command i can run to mount/unmount or something my wireless usb ? i have to plug it in and out so middle mouse get scrolling properly but im afraid the usb slot will get damaged if keep plugging unplugging daily
[21:15] <wagle> I hate the 14.04 GUI, 12.04 is setup the way I want
[21:15] <mustmodify> reisio: why arch?
[21:16] <reisio> mustmodify: I just mean 64-bit guest on 64-bit host, 32 on 32
[21:16] <yorwos> its usb keyboard/mouse wireless
[21:17] <reisio> rickiestrick: what's the ls -al output for pi ?
[21:17] <wagle> Beldar: ok, will read that for a bit
[21:17] <Beldar> wagle, You hate what exactly? unity if that is the issue is hardly different just a later model.
[21:17] <yorwos> the problem is the reconnection of the device has to be typed in somehow cause the keyboard wont work to type then
[21:17] <rickiestrick> reisio: should I run this command on the remote machine or the pi machine?
[21:18] <mustmodify> reisio: oh damn, now I need to download ubuntu.
[21:18] <reisio> mustmodify: :p
[21:18] <reisio> mustmodify: is that a problem?
[21:18] <reisio> rickiestrick: the one you're sshfsing the pi stuff _to_
[21:18] <reisio> the problem machine
[21:18] <Beldar> yorwos, YOU can turn the wifi off and on in the hetwork manager
[21:19] <Beldar> network*
[21:19] <wagle> Beldar: i hate being dumbed down and basic all-the-time operations being made way harder/tedious, but this isn't the issue
[21:19] <Bashing-om> yorwos: Release 13.10 is today at End_Of_Life// no point in beating on a dead horse. see what results in release 14.04.
[21:19] <Beldar> wagle, Your arguments are vapid and assuming. ;)
[21:20] <wagle> Beldar: uh huh..
[21:20] <wagle> Beldar: well thanks for giving real information mixed with bullshit
[21:20] <Beldar> wagle, This is support it entails exact info.
[21:21] <wagle> you asked why i didnt want to upgrade to 14.04..  i told you
[21:21] <yorwos> beldar nice idea , but how to turn it back on ? if it turns off the keyboard+mouse will stop functioning ! :D
[21:21] <rickiestrick> reisio: http://pastebin.com/S8FS8bCg
[21:21] <shellclear> my umask is 0027 ,but some programs create directories in my home with different permissions, for example  FBreader, it create a directory in my home called .FBreader with permissions 755
[21:22] <Beldar> yorwos, Ah so your all wifi mouse, keyboard and internet?
[21:23] <Technodrome> i swear i love deb based distros, but if apt-get is messed up , i use aptitutde and vice versa, seems so hit or miss sometimes
[21:23] <reisio> yarp
[21:23] <reisio> rickiestrick: and what dir for example can't you write to?
[21:23] <Beldar> yorwos, If you spread out info rather than state it in one post it will be missed on occasion.
[21:24] <rickiestrick> reisio: folder6
[21:24] <reisio> rickiestrick: and your user is 'jr'?
[21:24] <yorwos> beldar my internet will stay on im using ethernet cables
[21:25] <rickiestrick> reisio: on the problem machine, yes
[21:25] <yorwos> i have to do it with a command like reconnect wifi in 15secconds
[21:25] <mustmodify> reisio: Can I uses the files in /boot in lieu of an install disk? I'm assuming not...
[21:25] <Beldar> yorwos, I think your worry on the usb port is unfounded, Use it correctly you should have no issue.
[21:26] <Beldar> yorwos, Use a hub even better
[21:26] <reisio> rickiestrick: okay
[21:26] <yorwos> thats clever ! ty :D
[21:26] <reisio> rickiestrick: not really sure why it's not mounting them as jr by default, but you can probably use sshfs' -o uid=# option
[21:26] <wuschLOR> reisio found the answer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1558804 ;) much simpler
[21:26] <reisio> or -o idmap=user
[21:26] <reisio> wuschLOR: you have multiple hard drives?
[21:27] <reisio> oh you're truecrypt guy
[21:27] <wuschLOR> yep
[21:27] <reisio> gj
[21:27] <rickiestrick> reisio: when do I use that option?
[21:28] <reisio> rickiestrick: when you run 'sshfs...'
[21:28] <reisio> rickiestrick: what's jr's output of 'uid'?
[21:28] <rickiestrick> reisio: thanks. I'll try that now
[21:28] <reisio> of 'id', even
[21:29] <Technodrome> do any of you use aptitude exlusively?
[21:30] <rickiestrick> reisio: I need the full command. I haven't used uid but maybe once or twice.
[21:30] <Beldar> Technodrome, So far you have just commented this is actual support for real issue, not a polling channel.
[21:30] <reisio> rickiestrick: 'id'
[21:30] <Technodrome> sorry
[21:30] <Technodrome> just frustrated Beldar
[21:30] <Technodrome> had a dependecy issue
[21:30] <rickiestrick> reisio: uid=1000(jr) gid=1000(jr) groups=1000(jr),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),124(sambashare),127(debian-tor)
[21:30] <Beldar> Technodrome, If you have an issue state it we may be able to help. ;)
[21:30] <Technodrome> i fixed it
[21:30] <Technodrome> by just running the same command in aptitude and i hate that i had to do that
[21:31] <reisio> Technodrome: mmhmmm
[21:31] <reisio> rickiestrick: so you could try sshfs -o uid=1000 ...otherstuff
[21:31] <aboudreault> what can I do if grub-efi-amd64-signed refuse to install with/without secureboot disabled
[21:31] <reisio> rickiestrick: or sshfs -o idmap=user
[21:32] <rickiestrick> thanks. What was that unmount command you said that is the better option?
[21:32] <Beldar> aboudreault, What is the issue with disabling it?
[21:32] <reisio> rickiestrick: that was probably irrelevant
[21:33] <aboudreault> Beldar, same thing... got a backtrace at the package install
[21:33] <aboudreault> firmware bla bla bla
[21:33] <reisio> rickiestrick: just, if you find fusermount -u doesn't work, sometimes fusermount -uz will
[21:33] <reisio> much like umount and umount -l :)
[21:33] <Beldar> aboudreault, THat makes no sense at least to me.
[21:33] <rickiestrick> thanks
[21:33] <wagle> if 12.04 is supported until 2017-04, why am I being told to upgrade my hardware stack now?
[21:34] <reisio> wagle: your _hardware_?
[21:34] <reisio> y'mean software?
[21:34] <wagle> "Your current Hardware Enablement Stack (HWE) is going out of support
[21:34] <wagle> on 14-08-07.  After this date security updates for critical parts (kernel
[21:34] <wagle> "
[21:39] <newb> hi
[21:40] <newb> need some help here. my nvidia card is not being detected
[21:40] <newb> ubuntu 12.10
[21:40] <Ben64> 12.10 is no longer supported
[21:40] <newb> tried using other methods
[21:40] <Beldar> newb, 12.10 is eol you need a supported release
[21:40] <newb> ok
[21:40] <k1l_> newb: before investing any time in that make it to a actual supported ubuntu release
[21:41] <newb> i did to 14.04
[21:41] <newb> it caused more issues
[21:41] <newb> i had to uninstall 14.04
[21:41] <newb> my graphics card was slowing it down
[21:41] <rickiestrick> reisio: I still cannot create folders in the sub directories :/
[21:41] <k1l_> newb: running 12.10 is not a choice. its ended
[21:42] <Ben64> newb: come in here with the problems with 14.04 and we can talk about fixing them
[21:42] <newb> i do have issues with 14.04
[21:42] <newb> i had to down grade
[21:42] <Ben64> but we can help you fix the issues you have on 14.04
[21:42] <newb> when I log in, everything slows down
[21:42] <Ben64> we can't do anything with 12.10
[21:42] <newb> ok, ok.
[21:43] <newb> i'll see if i can reinstall it
[21:43] <wagle> is there a equivalent of libglapi-mesa:i386 in 14.04?
[21:44] <sandeep_chaudhar> Hey guys
[21:44] <reisio> wagle: there's always an equivalent, that's why they're called equivalents
[21:44] <reisio> sandeep_chaudhar: heyo
[21:44] <sandeep_chaudhar> how do I override CFLAGS on shell so that I can add some value to it rather than simply over-writing it?
[21:45] <sandeep_chaudhar> when I try "make CFLAGS+=-a" (lets say eg)
[21:45] <reisio> #friendly-coders
[21:45] <sandeep_chaudhar> then CFLAGS is over-written and not added to the existing value.
[21:45] <sandeep_chaudhar> ok, #friendly-coders for me?
[21:45] <reisio> yarp
[21:45] <sandeep_chaudhar> okies, thanks.
[21:48] <rickiestrick> reisio: The issue was with the permissions of the files on the remote machine. I'm just setting them all to 777
[21:49] <renjennoob> Anyone can help me in installing the latest ubuntu next to windows 8 ?
[21:49] <reisio> renjennoob: what's the problem?
[21:49] <renjennoob> Hi
[21:49] <renjennoob> I have acer aspire 64bit preinstalled windows 8
[21:50] <renjennoob> And i want to install ubuntu next to it like dual boot
[21:50] <reisio> renjennoob: what's stopping you?
[21:50] <renjennoob> But the problem is after i create a bootable live usb it doesnt boot
[21:51] <renjennoob> It continue straight to wimdows 8
[21:51] <reisio> renjennoob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[21:52] <mourad> heloo
[21:52] <renjennoob> Note that i have disabled the fast will that solve my problem ?
[21:52] <renjennoob> Will that solve my problem ****
[21:52] <renjennoob> The link u provided
[21:53] <wagle> is the hwe-support-status command telling me the right thing with respect to upgrading to HWE 12.04.05? http://pastebin.com/6bkfrMM3
[21:54] <k1l_> wagle: you got the 13.10 backports kernel running
[21:54] <k1l_> wagle: install the 14.04 kernel backports stuff and you are fine
[21:56] <wagle> k1l_: is that easy to say how?
[21:56] <k1l_> wagle: did you even read the message you just pasted?
[21:57] <wagle> k1l_: yes, and the last command didnt work
[21:57] <kubuntu> Salut
[21:57] <k1l_> wagle: "didnt work" please pastebin the output
[21:58] <wagle> working on that
[21:59] <wagle> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/Mnn284cm
[21:59] <k1l_> wagle: so you have PPAs running?
[22:00] <wagle> PPA's?
[22:00] <k1l_> wagle: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[22:01] <wagle> k1l_: empty
[22:02] <eoin> how do i spoof emails on ubuntu
[22:03] <k1l_> wagle: wait, is that a server?
[22:03] <wagle> k1l_: shouldnt be
[22:03] <wagle> bunches of stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:04] <k1l_> wagle: ok, then show that please
[22:05] <k1l_> wagle: and that sources.list.d folder is where the PPAs (3rd party sources) go in ubuntu. then sources.list stays clean from 3rd party stuff. that will help the upgrade not break the whole system
[22:05] <wagle> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/EyM88beF
[22:06] <wagle> i think I tried an failed to support my video card
[22:06] <beta> a
[22:06] <reisio> I'll help you out
[22:06] <beta> I am trying to set up USB mobile broadband. I have configued with "Edit connections", set up my APN, etc. It is not displayed under connections. I use comviq (swedish) if that is to any help. Can someone help me? What could I be doing wrong?
[22:06] <reisio> say this: "hey video card, good job today"
[22:07] <k1l_> wagle: well, i dont see a 3rd party repo there. did you install something by hand?
[22:07] <eeee> beta: is this iburst?
[22:08] <eeee> !iburst | beta
[22:08] <wagle> k1l_: i seem to be running nvidia PPA
[22:08] <jrib> will pretty much any sd card reader/writer work on linux or are there some recommended ones?
[22:08] <reisio> jrib: most likely any
[22:09] <beta> eeee, no, it is comviq.se
[22:09] <jrib> reisio: thanks
[22:09] <wagle> k1l_: i might have gone to them
[22:09] <eeee> beta: yes but does it use iburst, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Iburst
[22:09] <reisio> jrib: if you have a specific premade computer model in mind, you could check http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[22:09] <reisio> jrib: but most likely it'll work
[22:09] <k1l_> wagle: if you know you fiddled with the nvidia and the xorg stuff that is the issue
[22:10] <jrib> reisio: nah, was going to buy one so i could flash some images on an sd card
[22:10] <eoin> everyone on here is shit at support
[22:10] <reisio> jrib: from an online store?
[22:10] <jrib> reisio: anywhere
[22:10] <wagle> k1l_: what about the libglapi-mesa:i386
[22:10] <reisio> jrib: any online store that's not awful will say what OS it works on
[22:10] <super> newb you still here?
[22:11] <reisio> or at least the reviews might
[22:12] <Geo> downloading 14.04, it says 32bit (for machines with less than 2gb ram) ... does that mean if I have 4gb of ram but a 32bit processor, it can only access the first 2?
[22:13] <super> Geo, if you have dual cores or any of the x64 cpu download the 64 bit iso
[22:13] <reisio> Geo: 64-bit for 64-bit, 32 for 32, it's not rocket science :)
[22:14] <super> Geo, if your cpu is 64 bit download 64 bit not how much system memory you have
[22:14] <Geo> reisio, thanks, but that was not my question
[22:14] <reisio> Geo: yeah but I was answering, now questioning :p
[22:14] <genii> Geo: The default kernel is PAE so it should see more than 2Gb
[22:14] <reisio> the answer to your question is irrelevant
[22:14] <potato_farmer> Geo, generally 32-bit system can access 3.5GB of memory
[22:14] <reisio> :D
[22:14] <potato_farmer> With PAE, more
[22:15] <Geo> potato_farmer: what is PAE?
[22:15] <reisio> and he doesn't mean only .5 more
[22:15] <reisio> not that it matters
[22:15] <AAA-> does anyone here speak spanish? I need some slang translated
[22:15] <reisio> Geo: something else you don't need to know about :)
[22:15] <reisio> AAA-: #linguistics
[22:15] <AAA-> thanks
[22:15] <kostkon> Geo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[22:15] <Geo> thanks
[22:15] <Geo> didnt recognize the abbreviation
[22:16] <genii> Geo: PAE is "Physical Address Extensions" ... it's what allows 32bit cpu to address more than the 2G of RAM
[22:16] <potato_farmer> Geo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_GB_barrier
[22:17] <jrib> reisio: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208939 heh actually specifies kernel version and everything; thanks for the help
[22:17]  * reisio moves page to 'imaginary irrelevant 3 gb barrier'
[22:17] <reisio> jrib: :)
[22:17] <super> 2^32 for 32bit right?
[22:18] <super> and 2^64 for 64bit?
[22:18] <reisio> shhhh
[22:18] <potato_farmer> and 2^36 with PAE
[22:18]  * reisio headdesks
[22:18] <potato_farmer> Geo, you probably have a 64-bit cpu
[22:18] <Geo> and if i read correctly, 14.04 has PAE by default, correct?
[22:18] <Geo> nope, 32bit
[22:18] <Geo> older box
[22:19] <reisio> then it doesn't matter, you have no choice
[22:19] <Geo> reisio: you still dont seem to grasp my actual question
[22:19] <Geo> I'm fully aware I dont have a choice what I install
[22:19] <eeee> reisio: he wants to know
[22:19] <reisio> eeee: to know?
[22:19] <Geo> I'm wondering how much memory I can access on the only choice I have
[22:19] <eeee> reisio: understand
[22:19] <beta> eeee, if it uses iBurst, what do I do?
[22:19] <Geo> so please let the other folds help
[22:20] <reisio> help with what?
[22:20] <eeee> beta: you can add the ppa and follow the instructions
[22:20] <Julioalnd> OIGAN
[22:20] <Julioalnd> NECESITO AYUDA
[22:20] <potato_farmer> Geo: read the page I sent you, you can access between 2.75GB to 3.5GB depending on hardware. If you use a PAE kernel, you can access more, but at the cost of some performance.
[22:21] <potato_farmer> If your box is that old, should you be installing 14.04?
[22:21] <reisio> potato_farmer: course
[22:21] <super> potato he can install ubuntu lxde 14.04
[22:21] <kostkon> Geo, what are the specs
[22:21] <Geo> potato_farmer: reading it now, I'm familiar with PAE, but its a good refresher
[22:21] <super> perfect for system with 1gb
[22:22] <beta> eeee, ppa?
[22:23] <eeee> beta, it's on the website i sent, you have to open the terminal and run the commands, the first is sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ginggs/ppa
[22:29] <svm_invictvs> How do I modify my machine's hostname?
[22:29] <svm_invictvs> edit /etc/hostname?
[22:30] <eeee> yes and etc/hosts
[22:30] <eeee> then type hostname
[22:30] <eeee> (run "hostname" in the terminal)
[22:36] <innocent95> Hi folks.
[22:36] <koell> hey
[22:37] <innocent95> koell, How it's going :)
[22:37] <innocent95> What's the best way to install chrome or chromium on Ubuntu without issues ?.
[22:37] <Geo> so did anyone ever mention why the download page suggests 32bit is for machines with <2gb ram ?
[22:38] <koell> innocent95: issues? i just used the one from google download or the one from the sources
[22:38] <Beldar> innocent95, What issues, never had any personally?
[22:39] <innocent95> koell, Could you provide a link
[22:39] <innocent95> Beldar, Like language issues
[22:39] <kostkon> innocent95, for chrome or chromium?
[22:40] <innocent95> kostkon, What do you prefer, and what most people prefer ?
[22:40] <Beldar> innocent95, Should run as you have your computer set up, never seen this addressed here ever.
[22:40] <wagle> k1l_: I uninstalled the nvidia driver, rebooted, and it still fails for same messages
[22:41] <Beldar> innocent95, https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95416?hl=en
[22:41] <innocent95> Beldar, I installed chromium the worst way, and i have problems with flash and language ... etc.
[22:42] <Beldar> innocent95, Give exact details so far none of this means anything.
[22:42] <awesomess3> kostkon, innocent95 Beldar I just installed the latest Chromium for Xubuntu 14.04 and when I change workspaces the graphics glitch and I can't see most of its GUI except when I mouse-over specific pieces.
[22:42] <awesomess3> :(
[22:43] <kostkon> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree | innocent95, to get propery flash support in chromium install this package
[22:43] <innocent95> Beldar, The flash player is not working on youtube... also Arabic language letters are not displayed properly in page titles.
[22:44] <kostkon> innocent95, if you want to try chrome, get it from here http://www.google.co.uk/chrome/
[22:44] <innocent95> Alright, i'll try chrome.
[22:45] <innocent95> can i remove chromium using: sudo apt-get remove chromium-browser ?
[22:45] <awesomess3> innocent95, I'm 95% sure yes
[22:46] <innocent95> awesomess3, :),  you mean 05% percent of packages will be in my computer for a long time ?
[22:47] <svm_invictvs> Heya
[22:48] <innocent95> I hate installing .deb files.
[22:50] <awesomess3> would you rather double-click an MSI .exe installer?
[22:52] <kostkon> !netsplit
[22:54] <_Rocky_> Oh, I am tripping
[22:54] <eldawg> haha
[22:54] <skinux> How do we use Pylons once we have installed it via repo??
[22:56] <koell> call admiral adama!
[22:56] <Pici> skinux: read its documentation.  If you still need help, it would probably benefit you to ask in #python
[23:00] <newb> ok, installing 14.04 lts
[23:02] <newb> what's with the goat in 14.04?
[23:02] <Pici> goat?
[23:02] <newb> ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[23:03] <Pici> newb: I don't understand what you mean by "goat"
[23:03] <_Rocky_> I think he means the Tahr
[23:03] <newb> yeah, tahr
[23:04] <Pici> It's the development codename.  Every Ubuntu release has an Adjective Animal codename.
[23:04] <Pici> !codenames
[23:05] <newb> ok, I hope you guys can help me soon.
[23:05] <newb> i hate nvidia
[23:05] <newb> when I finished installing this, everything is slow. The mouse pointer is hardly moving.
[23:06] <_Rocky_> newb: does your Nvidia card support optimus
[23:06] <_Rocky_> ?
[23:06] <newb> nope
[23:07] <newb> my graphics card is a nvidia geforce 8400 gs
[23:07] <newb> 512mb
[23:07] <daftykins> optimus is a state of fact, not a feature to support.
[23:08] <_Rocky_> daftykins: yes. grammatical error there
[23:08] <_Rocky_> newb: Have you installed the restricted drivers?
[23:08] <newb> ok, i do not see the unity launcher
[23:08] <newb> nope
[23:08] <koell> newb: god bless you :D
[23:08] <newb> i dont know that much about installing nvidia drivers
[23:08] <super> sh: 1: ini: not found
[23:09] <newb> ok, i see evrything but its so slow.
[23:09] <newb> the mouse pointer is moving slow
[23:09] <super> 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] (rev a2)
[23:10] <newb> i may need to use ctrl + alt and F1
[23:10] <_Rocky_> newb: try this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers
[23:11] <newb> ok, but i need to restart my pc now. Im using my laptop on this chat.
[23:12] <super> install the nvidia proprietary driver
[23:12] <super> remove all the nouveau
[23:13] <newb> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-uodates?
[23:13] <newb> this^
[23:13] <daftykins> -typo
[23:13] <supergauntlet> something like that
[23:13] <super> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current
[23:14] <svm_invi1tvs> if I setup a machine as a virtualbox host machine, what exactly does that mean?
[23:14] <super> go download your driver from nvidia site
[23:14] <svm_invi1tvs> Does that somehow limimt the packages that are available?
[23:15] <newb> E:unable to locate package nvidia-current
[23:15] <super> sudo apt-get remove nvidia*
[23:15] <super> be sure to download your nvidia driver first
[23:15] <newb> k
[23:15] <newb> how can i download it with a slow pointer?
[23:15] <newb> the system is slow
[23:16] <newb> i can dowload it through terminal?
[23:16] <newb> *download
[23:16] <super> is it laptop or desktop card?
[23:17] <newb> desktop card.
[23:17] <newb> in addition, my chipset is nvidia as well.
[23:17] <super> http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/340.24/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.24.run&lang=us&type=geforcem
[23:17] <[1]rsa_sean> Anyone else seeing a "ALERT /dev/mapper/vg00-root does not exist" error on new netboot server installs
[23:17] <[1]rsa_sean> We also have no way of interacting with ash because it does not recognise usb keyboards ...
[23:17] <newb> im using my laptop right now.
[23:18] <[1]rsa_sean> same configuration worked 3 weeks ago, this week we are getting these errors
[23:18] <newb> i can't do almost anything on my desktop.
[23:18] <super> put the nvidia*.run file on your usb
[23:18] <newb> ok
[23:19] <super> when you boot up your desktop hold down Shift key
[23:20] <newb> ok
[23:20] <super> when you see the grub selection menu press "e" to edit it
[23:20] <super> the line that start with linux ..... "quiet splash" delete the two words and put 2
[23:21] <super> delete "quiet splash" and add "2"
[23:22] <newb> so just "2"
[23:22] <newb> what's with this slow download.
[23:23] <super> newb, yes
[23:23] <super> thats runlevel 2
[23:23] <newb> ok
[23:24] <newb> so look for "quit splash" in grub pressing e and delete "quite splash" and replace it with "2".
[23:24] <super> newb, correct
[23:24] <newb> ok, will do that as soon as i get this nvidia driver in the usb.
[23:25] <newb> its so slow
[23:25] <newb> i hate the internet here
[23:25] <brakson> Hey guys. I'm having trouble booting Windows 8.1 from grub. Can Anyone help me out? Here's a detailed description. http://pastie.org/9401251
[23:26] <brakson> Both Linux and Windows work on my computer but in order for me to use Windows at this point I have to go into my BIOS and change the boot order.
[23:27] <newb> 4 minutes left.
[23:27] <super> brakson, if you want to dual boot windows and ubunt easiest way is to have both of them run on legacy mode and not uefi mode
[23:27] <brakson> super: thanks for the reply. I will try that. Why do you think it will boot in Legacy but not uefi?
[23:28] <super> you might have to look up uefi dual boot brakson
[23:28] <super> your windows 8 is preinstalled in UEFI mode
[23:29] <super> uefi allow your system to boot much faster but once you are inside windows the performance is about the same is if you select legacy mode
[23:32] <eeee> brakson: was ubuntu installed in uefi mode ?
[23:32] <newb> i made the changes to grub.
[23:32] <brakson> eeee: yes
[23:33] <newb> now what?
[23:33] <super> newb, are you in terminal screen?
[23:33] <newb> all i see is a blakc screen
[23:33] <newb> *black
[23:33] <newb> i did what you told me, too
[23:34] <super> ctrl+alt+f2
[23:34] <super> or f1
[23:34] <newb> nothing
[23:34] <newb> it does nothing
[23:34] <ko3t> hi ! i got a windows 7 from the ebay and wanted to install linux. is there a way to download and install it straight from windows, without using USB stick or CD?
[23:34] <eeee> brakson: try turning secure boot off
[23:34] <brakson> eeee: ok. I'll be back
[23:34] <svm_invi1tvs> er
[23:34] <svm_invi1tvs> shit
[23:34] <eeee> ok
[23:34] <super> ko3tb use wubi
[23:34] <ko3t> i mean i got windows 7 laptop
[23:35] <svm_invi1tvs> So I've installed apache2, I've installed PHP and all that
[23:35] <newb> do i go to boot and re-edit grub back
[23:35] <svm_invi1tvs> I want to use ldap-account-manager, installed it via deb...
[23:35] <svm_invi1tvs> How do I configure it from there, do I just symlink it into my /var/www/ directory?
[23:35] <ko3t> super: thanks
[23:36] <super> newb go back to grub this time just put nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0
[23:36] <newb> same place where "quite splash"
[23:36] <Crazywolf132> anyone here?
[23:36] <super> newb, delete "quiet splash" and add "nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0"
[23:36] <newb> ok
[23:37] <super> yes be sure it is spacing
[23:37] <brucelee_> i just installed a brand new ubuntu, there were other logical volumes on other disks in the system, and after installing ubuntu, vgdisplay registers those
[23:37] <brucelee_> but i cant remove them because it says device or resource busy
[23:37] <Crazywolf132> HAVE ANY OF YOU PEOPLE MURDED SOMEONE?
[23:37] <super> xxx nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0 xxxx xxx
[23:37] <newb> ok
[23:37] <brucelee_> when i do lsof <lv> it doesnt say anything
[23:37] <brucelee_> anyone know how i can remove these pvs so i can use them for something else
[23:38] <Crazywolf132> nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0
[23:38] <Crazywolf132> ?
[23:38] <newb> then hit f10?
[23:38] <Crazywolf132> HAVE ANY OF YOU PEOPLE MURDED SOMEONE?
[23:38] <newb> when im done
[23:38] <Crazywolf132> HAVE ANY OF YOU PEOPLE MURDED?
[23:39] <Crazywolf132> HAVE ANY OF YOU PEOPLE MURDED?
[23:39] <super> newb,  yes
[23:39] <newb> ok
[23:39] <super> f10 or ctrl+x
[23:39] <brakson> eeee: You are amazing
[23:39] <newb> ok
[23:39] <brakson> eeee: it finally works!
[23:39] <newb> i see the log in
[23:39] <eeee> it worked ?
[23:39] <eeee> cool :)
[23:39] <brakson> eeee: Why did secure boot keep it from working?
[23:40] <newb> do i log in or just ctrl + alt + f1?
[23:40] <Crazywolf132> brakson: What works?
[23:40] <Crazywolf132> EVERYBODY STOP FOR A SECOND
[23:40] <Crazywolf132> HAVE YOU GUYS HEARD OF THAT PLAIN THAT GOT SHOT DOWN?
[23:40] <super> newb, when you press f10 you will be at a login prompt screen
[23:40] <eldawg> its plane
[23:40] <eldawg> and yes
[23:40] <super> enter your username and password
[23:40] <newb> k
[23:40] <eldawg> its been news for almost 12 hours
[23:41] <Pici> Crazywolf132: take the nonsense elsewhere, this is a support channel.
[23:41] <super> navigate to your nvidia*.run file and sudo sh *.run
[23:41] <newb> ok
[23:41] <brakson> Crazywolf132: I was getting this error http://pastie.org/9401251
[23:42] <maurizius81> !list
[23:42] <newb> command not found
[23:43] <newb> oh wait, need to put the name
[23:44] <newb> ok its installing
[23:44] <super> newb, are you on the promp login screen?
[23:44] <super> congrat newb
[23:44] <super> remember everytime you do update you will have to reinstall your nvidia driver again
[23:44] <newb> oh wait
[23:44] <super> the update will break it
[23:44] <newb> ok
[23:44] <newb> but i got an error
[23:44] <super> -F
[23:44] <Crazywolf132> okay cya
[23:45] <super> add that to sudo sh -F *.run
[23:45] <super> force installation
[23:45] <newb> the chipset NVIDIA geforce 6150SE nforce 430 GPU
[23:45] <newb> ok
[23:45] <super> don't forget to blacklist nouveau
[23:46] <newb> can't force install illegal operation
[23:46] <newb> -F
[23:46] <super> -f
[23:47] <super> --force
[23:47] <newb> got it
[23:47] <newb> how do i black list nouveau?
[23:47] <Pici> super: neither --force nor -F are valid options for sh, and -f is probably not what you want.
[23:47] <eeee> brakson: did you use boot-repair ?
[23:48] <eeee> (after you installed ubuntu)
[23:48] <super> nouveau.modeset=0 on your grub
[23:48] <super> make it permanent
[23:49] <super> newb, sudo vi /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf
[23:49] <super> # This file was installed by nvidia-current-updates
[23:49] <super> # Do not edit this file manually
[23:49] <super> blacklist nouveau
[23:49] <super> blacklist lbm-nouveau
[23:49] <super> blacklist nvidia-173
[23:49] <super> blacklist nvidia-96
[23:49] <unopaste> super you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:49] <unopaste> super you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:49] <brucelee_> anyoen know how to remove an LV if lvremove returns device-mapper: remove iosctl on failed: device or resource busy
[23:49] <newb> ok
[23:49] <unopaste> super you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:49] <brucelee_> i tried lsof, doesnt list anything
[23:51] <super> newb, http://askubuntu.com/questions/112302/how-do-i-disable-the-nouveau-kernel-driver
[23:51] <newb> ok, thanks super,
[23:56] <newb> how do i exit x server?
[23:56] <super> newb, sudo shutdown -r now
[23:56] <newb> cannot install drivers because of x server
[23:57] <eeee> super: he wants to exit x not reboot
[23:57] <super> eeee, he just did a runlevel 2
[23:57] <Pici> !runlevels
[23:57] <newb> can't install nvidia drivers because of x server running
[23:58] <eeee> ok, i wasn't paying much attention :)
[23:58] <super> anyone know how to get to init 3?
[23:58] <super> i used to just type sudo init 3
[23:58] <super> and i'll see tty1
[23:58] <Pici> super: init 2,3,4,5 are all the same on Ubuntu.
[23:58] <newb> im checking it now
[23:59] <super> newb, if you want to install the nvidia driver you have to exit xserver
[23:59] <newb> im trying that now


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