[12:01] <Moose> ||cw: Alright, so right now I could log in and check my email that I don't have with my user account? No extra configuration?
[12:01] <un_operateur> Enverex, what are you on Dapper or Edgy   ?
[12:01] <Enverex> un_operateur, Edgy
[12:01] <stefg> kohr_: but hold on a sec... what are you going to use that drive for?
[12:01] <bradley> kohr_ maybe.  maybe.
[12:01] <steel_lady> ok, I installed java runtime, I installed the plugin and the page still does not work!!!
[12:01] <un_operateur> Enverex, OO2 has been out on edgy for ages now
[12:01] <un_operateur> !info openoffice.org edgy
[12:02] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[12:02] <||cw> Moose: postfix is just the recieving part, for the checking part, you need pop3 or imap, courier is one of the best for this
[12:02] <Enverex> un_operateur, Edgy  is on OO2.0.4, not 2.1
[12:02] <toulouse> hey guys, i (attempted ) to install another OS on another partition, but when i asked me whether to install GRub or not, i said no, because i believe it is already on my system, but now i dont know how to get into that OS
[12:02] <kohr_> stefg, holding missilanious files, media etc
[12:02] <toulouse> anyone have suggestions?
[12:02] <Enverex> OO is 28k? That's some damn good compression.
[12:02] <||cw> Moose: i gott run, you'll probably want to search for a mail server howto
[12:02] <un_operateur> Enverex, err, metapackage
[12:02] <Moose> ||cw: Alright, well thanks for your help.
[12:02] <Enverex> (it was a joke)
[12:02] <un_operateur> !info openoffice.org feisty
[12:03] <MatthewV> toulouse, what was the other OS?
[12:03] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.1. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[12:03] <toulouse> dreamlinux, it is morphix based
[12:03] <js_> when is the next ubuntu release due?
[12:03] <sivik> april
[12:03] <js_> cool
[12:03] <Enverex> js_, About 4 months time
[12:03] <stefg> kohr_:  it might be better to use the windows ext2ifs if you mainly use that for linux, and only need occasional access from win to it
[12:03] <steel_lady> anyone has the idea why it doesn't work? I even restarted the system!
[12:03] <Moose> How do I uninstall a package?
[12:03] <MatthewV> Enverex, i think thats a meta-package..
[12:03] <stefg> !ext2ifs
[12:03] <toulouse> MatthewV: dreamlinux, it's morphix based
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2ifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <Enverex> MatthewV, Yes I know, I already answered that it was a joke
[12:03] <sivik> Moose, via command line or gui?
[12:03] <||cw> Moose: apt-get remove foo
[12:03] <Moose> sivik: Command line
[12:03] <MatthewV> toulouse, basically you have to add another entry to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:04] <sivik> Moose: either sudo apt-get remove or sudo aptitude remove
[12:04] <robin__> hi. i want to print to a printer on a windows machine.i have absolutely no experience with this, sio i need it explained in simpkle terms please
[12:04] <stefg> kohr_: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[12:04] <sivik> robin__, use samba
[12:04] <Moose> Thanks.
[12:04] <un_operateur> Enverex, looks like you will have to wait for feisty or download the feisty OO packages and install them -- i dont recommend the latter
[12:04] <robin__> what is samba
[12:04] <toulouse> MatthewV: how would i go about doing that ?
[12:04] <MatthewV> toulouse, you can take a look at existing entries for an idea, and there may be some more info on the dreamlinux homepage
[12:04] <MatthewV> !grub
[12:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager.  Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:04] <MatthewV> toulouse, the last link might be able to help you
[12:04] <toulouse> ok
[12:04] <robin__> samba for ubuntu or windoze
[12:05] <sivik> robin__, ubuntu
[12:05] <robin__> cheers
[12:05] <robin__> i need it explained really simply coz i have never networked a printer
[12:05] <sivik> robin__, have you tried googling it or checking the forums
[12:05] <Enverex> un_operateur, I guess I'm used to Gentoo where you get whatever is out at the time, not having to wait for release cycles or whatever
[12:05] <MatthewV> robin__, there are a few guides on the wiki for networking printers
[12:05] <stefg> !PRINT | robin__
[12:05] <ubotu> robin__: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:06] <robin__> il check
[12:06] <steel_lady> one blonde metal girl here needs help!!!
[12:06] <sivik> steel_lady, whats the problem
[12:06] <robin__> baring in mind im usin edgy
[12:06] <un_operateur> Enverex, ubuntu and debian err on the side of stability for their audience -- there's an obvious buffer of extensive pre-release testing to go through first
[12:07] <steel_lady> I want to run some java pages. I installed java runtime and plugins but doesn't work still
[12:07] <Enverex> un_operateur, I'd have thought that would be the job of the ones that make the apps in the first place, but, fair enough
[12:07] <un_operateur> Enverex, and it's not going to hurt you at all to work with OO2.0 :)
[12:07] <BlackDalek> Hello, quick question - what is minimum system requirements to install/run ubuntu 6.10? would it run on a small 400MHz P2 with 320Mb RAM and 30Gb hard drive space?
[12:07] <Enverex> un_operateur, I know, I'm just a bleeding edge person and OO 2.0 to 2.1 is a bug-fix, not an update
[12:08] <Enverex> (just a large bugfix)
[12:08] <k0ma> can someone help me partition my hd?
[12:08] <mnoir> Enverex: do you know what integration testing is?  how can the OO ppl test the integration in every distribution?
[12:08] <stefg> steel_lady: give me a url to check if it works for me, then i can possibly tell you what  to do
[12:08] <Rocito> can i install XFCE over regular gnome ubuntu without losing my gnome settings? i just want to be able to switch around between the two at leisure/preference/requirement
[12:08] <sivik> steel_lady, did you install i   sun-java5-plugin                - The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0
[12:08] <steel_lady> yes
[12:08] <k0ma> i'm trying to make a partition for ubuntu and a fat32 partition share with my windows installation
[12:09] <sivik> steel_lady, did you restart the browser before you tried to use it
[12:09] <mnoir> Enverex: ubuntu is a production system, not a leading edge one - any change to any code is a retest
[12:09] <BlackDalek> is there a page which tell minimum requirements.. I can not find it on www.ubuntu.com anywhere.
[12:09] <ralyon> how do  get my pcmcia slots working which use irq 11 and I get 'irq 11: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option)' and irqpoll gives me a soft cpu lock
[12:09] <Enverex> mnoir, True, I just thought with packages being "fixed" so to speak there is less to go wrong than on a compile based system
[12:09] <stefg> BlackDalek: say what you have, and we tell you what to run
[12:10] <robin__> none of ure gay links worked
[12:10] <steel_lady> ok, for check I am using one chat page that you have to know what to click because it is in croatian. other pages work, so if things might not work on some other I check by runing that
[12:10] <BlackDalek> ubuntu 6.10? would it run on a small 400MHz P2 with 320Mb RAM and 30Gb hard drive space?
[12:10] <mnoir> Enverex: i don't see what the difference is, with a robust build system delivering source is pretty much the same as delivering executables.  it all still needs testing appropriate to the user base
[12:10] <un_operateur> Enverex, well, if you feel brave you could include the feisty sources in sources.list and install the feisty OO packages .. but again, I don't recommend it for obvious reasons, you might suffer extensive hair-loss
[12:10] <sivik> steel_lady, try going to the java mainpage
[12:10] <steel_lady> sivik, look at http://chat.net.hr/chat.jsp
[12:11] <Enverex> un_operateur, I come from Gentoo. There is no remaining hair.
[12:11] <steel_lady> sivik, click on green letters than otn simple cha
[12:11] <whileimhere> Is there anyway to save the downloaded packages when a software package is installed via Synaptic? The reason I am asking is I want to re-install Ubuntu but do not want to re-download all the packages again.
[12:11] <sivik> steel_lady, let me try that
[12:11] <mnoir> Enverex: :))))
[12:11] <steel_lady> sivik after that it doesn't work for logi n
[12:11] <CaptainMorgan> anyone recommend another player besides amarok and rythmbox ?
[12:11] <stefg> BlackDalek: that's not too bad... RAM is fine, but you ight find xubuntu nicer, because of the slow CPU. xubuntu doesn't use that much ye-candy, so it's better for old CPUs
[12:12] <un_operateur> Enverex, well, extensive facial skin sagging syndrome then -- the next obvious increment :)
[12:12] <sivik> steel_lady, not sure, i can't figure out how to get logged in cause its not in english
[12:12] <n2diy> whileimhere: the packages are archived on your box, to see them type "locate *.deb"
[12:12] <BackPacker> whileimhere: You should find downloaded packages in /var/cache/apt/archives - they stay there until you do 'apt-get clean'
[12:12] <robin__> shit
[12:12] <un_operateur> n2diy, whileimhere .. /var/cache/apt/
[12:13] <steel_lady> sivik yes I know but just go to that page, click on green 'slazem se' and than on simple on the next page
[12:13] <sivik> steel_lady, i got a bunch more crap
[12:13] <steel_lady> sivik, after I click simple the next thing has a problem
[12:13] <whileimhere> Okay so if I copy the /var/cache/apt/ folder to say my networked drive and reimage the machine then copy them back will Synaptic detect them?
[12:13] <sivik> steel_lady, i go to some weird other webpage when i click on it
[12:14] <un_operateur> whileimhere, errm, i dont think it's as simple as that -- i dont think it will either -- you might need to copy the folder to the new machine and setup a local repository
[12:14] <cHuYitO_VeGa> Hello !!
[12:14] <whileimhere> I see
[12:14] <cHuYitO_VeGa> I nedd a help
[12:14] <steel_lady> is it possible to install java 6?
[12:14] <Enverex> I guess I'm in an unsatisfiable position. I want new apps, but I want my system to not break, heh (apps in the Gentoo dep chain tended to fail to compile to often and no-one cared). I guess it would be nice if it was like Windows (don't kill me). I can download and install the app when it becomes available and if it doesn't work, just use the old version. Problem with that is I'd need to compile from source on Linux and that would prese
[12:14] <Enverex> nt its own set of possible issues and Linux tends to install apps from source into 50 million different directories and normally without an uninstaller. I just wish there was a way to merge "new" with "stable", What if there was a "testing" repo (I don't mean for the next distro) that let you try out the new apps and see if they work and if they don't well you just stick to the one from the  stable repo...
[12:14] <whileimhere> That sounds more like a pain than its worth
[12:15] <Enverex> ... wow that was long
[12:15] <Moose> Is there any full mail relaying software out there that is just ready to go with some simple configuration? Not just sendmail, but where I can send AND receive from a windows based client...
[12:15] <cHuYitO_VeGa> I need a help with a problem with ubuntu
[12:15] <steel_lady> sivik, maybe the page needs java 6 and that is my problem?
[12:15] <sivik> steel_lady, maybe, possibly
[12:15] <CaptainMorgan> I ask because I can't get amarok to work on my 64bit machine
[12:15] <steel_lady> sivik, can I install java 6?
[12:15] <BackPacker> !ask | cHuYitO_VeGa
[12:15] <ubotu> cHuYitO_VeGa: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:15] <mnoir> Enverex: your first sentence puts you in a paradox - reliable and new are usually mutually exclusive :)
[12:16] <Rocito> can i install the XF4 or whatever its called that Xubuntu uses without losing my gnome? i wanna be able to switch around between the two
[12:16] <sivik> Rocito, yes
[12:16] <cHuYitO_VeGa> When i try to execute the console say this: Fallo de segmentacin (core dumped)
[12:16] <Enverex> mnoir, I guess that's why I liked Gentoo... when it actually worked, but the compile times and breakages eventually wore me down.
[12:16] <stefg> !bleeding edge
[12:16] <sivik> Rocito, just do a search in synmatic or aptitude and install it that way
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bleeding edge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <bayziders> what is the equivlint of ipconfig(from windows) in ubuntu?
[12:16] <enyc> !iff
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <robin__> does anyone like trivium
[12:16] <sivik> bayziders, its called ifconfig
[12:16] <ikonia> bayziders: ifconfig
[12:16] <mnoir> Enverex: me too :)
[12:16] <robin__> theyre cool
[12:16] <robin__> gunshot to the head
[12:16] <BackPacker> cHuYitO_VeGa: What are you trying to execute?
[12:17] <ikonia> robin__: whats trivium
[12:17] <Rocito> ok thanks sivik, just wanted to be sure i wouldnt hose my gnome out :P
[12:17] <robin__> pull harder on the dtrings
[12:17] <robin__> trivium rock
[12:17] <robin__> trivium is music silly
[12:17] <sivik> Rocito, i have gnome, kde, and enlightenment all installed on this machine
[12:17] <cHuYitO_VeGa> archive x.c
[12:17] <robin__> heavy metal
[12:17] <Rocito> hm
[12:17] <ikonia> oooh right, nothing to do with ubuntu then
[12:17] <robin__> what world are u in
[12:17] <mnoir> bayziders: there are several pgms that do things like it - try ifconfig - it probably will do you
[12:17] <robin__> nope
[12:17] <Rocito> enlightenment is nice sivik?
[12:17] <sivik> Rocito, yes, i love it
[12:17] <BackPacker> cHuYitO_VeGa: that's not executable; it's source code; it needs to be compiled
[12:17] <sivik> Rocito, go to seerofsouls.com
[12:17] <cHuYitO_VeGa> gcc -o name x.c its ok but when y try execute name
[12:17] <robin__> evrything so boring hear apart from ubuntu gotta tlk bout music
[12:17] <cHuYitO_VeGa> Fallo de segmentacin (core dumped)
[12:17] <robin__> avenged sevenfold
[12:17] <mnoir> bayziders: but ip addr ls
[12:17] <mnoir> nm
[12:18] <ikonia> robin__: no music talk please - see #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:18] <robin__> children of bodem
[12:18] <Rocito> i need: lightweigth, and 2 desktops that i can switch between with keybindings
[12:18] <robin__> ytheres nutin wrong with me tlkin bout muisc
[12:18] <robin__> im not doing anythiong bad
[12:18] <ikonia> robin__: not in a support channel please
[12:18] <Rocito> does that sound like enlightenment to you sivik?
[12:18] <sivik> bayziders, you could also make a alias for ipconfig
[12:18] <robin__> y
[12:18] <robin__> y
[12:18] <robin__> y
[12:18] <robin__> y
[12:18] <BackPacker> cHuYitO_VeGa: then there's probably something wrong with the source code
[12:18] <sivik> Rocito, ?
[12:18] <robin__> i need answers
[12:18] <stefg> !ops
[12:18] <ubotu> Help!  Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[12:20] <robin__> dang
[12:20] <ikonia> robin__: sorry dude - your a pain
[12:20] <robin__> any way heavy metal rules
[12:20] <robin__> ahh well u are a pain
[12:20] <K1GPL> logging me off and not letting me get back
[12:20] <kalon33> what problem do you have ubotu ?
[12:20] <K1GPL> stupid distro thinks its on a laptop or something
[12:20] <robin__> ra ps rubbiush
[12:20] <steel_lady> nobody answered me, what if the page needs java 6?
[12:21] <robin__> ubuntu rules
[12:21] <sarcevic> i'm here again...how can i check if my server is connected to internet?
[12:21] <ikonia> steel_lady: almost nothing "needs" jaa 6
[12:21] <ikonia> java6
[12:21] <ikonia> sarcevic: ping something
[12:21] <robin__> anyone like "cheap trick"
[12:21] <ikonia> ughhh where are the ops when you need them
[12:21] <apokryphos> ikonia: what's the problem?
[12:21] <K1GPL> big daddy and the holding company
[12:21] <robin__> nooo
[12:21] <steel_lady> but that page obviously does because other java pages work in my browser
[12:21] <robin__> silly
[12:21] <un_operateur> steel_lady, if the page demands java6 ,, it needs to get real :)
[12:21] <sarcevic> :-( connect: Network is unreachable
[12:22] <robin__> god i love music
[12:22] <ikonia> apokryphos: bang on queue - thanks the problem is the user "robin__" constantly chatting about heavy metal and causing interuption
[12:22] <robin__> i play guitar
[12:22] <ikonia> thank you
[12:22] <K1GPL> oh, wait, i was thinking of cheap thrills
[12:22] <Alarm> after removing for example the mythtv package, some libraries stay still installed that were installed during the mythtv installation. whats the safest way to remove every library and every file that has to do with mythtv ? (mythtv was an example, with every application actually)
[12:22] <steel_lady> I love heavy metal also!!!
[12:22] <apokryphos> !offtopic
[12:22] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:23] <stefg> steel_lady: but rather get your java fixed, music isn't just topic in here
[12:23] <mnoir> Alarm: if the libs are not needed by any other app, there is an orphan harvester - sec
[12:23] <steel_lady> yes but how if nobody is helping?
[12:23] <robin__> im bak
[12:23] <robin__> #so bk to heavy metal
[12:23] <robin__> is alec here
[12:23] <robin__> alec
[12:23] <steel_lady> in another words it is not possible to put java 6?
[12:23] <robin__> alecjww
[12:23] <stefg> steel_lady: i tried, you were't interested
[12:23] <robin__> come out
[12:23] <ikonia> !ops
[12:23] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[12:23] <un_operateur> Alarm, usually -- sudo aptitude remove mythtv         removes all unneeded libs
[12:23] <apokryphos> ikonia: calm down
[12:23] <ikonia> ahh hthanks
[12:23] <ikonia> sorry
[12:24] <apokryphos> no need to do that, you know I'm around
[12:24] <steel_lady> stefg I didn't see you
[12:24] <mnoir> Alarm: deborphan and gtkorphan are the pkgs you want
[12:24] <ikonia> didn't know you'd not gone
[12:24] <Alarm> thanks
[12:24] <apokryphos> well, you didn't try :)
[12:24] <Alarm> and how about to remove every single lib that was installed and want them to be removed ?
[12:24] <jmdc> exit
[12:24] <ikonia> apokryphos: saw you "un op" thought you'd left
[12:24] <ikonia> apologies
[12:24] <Alarm> something like to clean up my system from that in-uninstallation
[12:24] <un_operateur> Alarm, just do this -- sudo aptitude remove mythtv
[12:25] <Alarm> its not just about mythtv, its generaly that i want to clean my system
[12:25] <apokryphos> ikonia: no worries
[12:25] <un_operateur> ikonia, eh? :>>
[12:25] <Mba7eth> hi everyone i have a Q !!!
[12:25] <mnoir> Alarm: if they are still used by something i don't think you want to get rid of them
[12:25] <ikonia> Alarm: just use apt to remove what you want to go
[12:25] <Alarm> okie, thanks
[12:25] <stefg> steel_lady: so you want to chat on a site which has a java6 chat-applet... hmmm, bad idea. can't you just use your IRC clinet fot tha?
[12:25] <mnoir> Alarm: if they are not needed, gtkorphan will nuke them
[12:26] <BackPacker> !ask | Mba7eth
[12:26] <ubotu> Mba7eth: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:26] <Mba7eth> why i cant run 2 different audio applications at the same time ?
[12:26] <mikeconcepts2> uname -r indicates I have
[12:26] <mikeconcepts2> 2.6.17-10-generic
[12:26] <Mba7eth> ubotu : thanx
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <steel_lady> stefg no, I can not
[12:26] <Enverex> BackPacker, What if the question was if you can ask questions? :P OH NOES paradox!
[12:26] <mgardner> hi all, I've mounted some shares over samba in fstab but I cannot write to them, only read, I have rw set, is seems like I don't have permissions.  Can anyone help?
[12:26] <Alarm> mnoir,  hope this wont remove also used libs :)
[12:26] <mase> why is it every time i drag a window or scroll its all "laggy" ? my refresh rate is at 85hz when i went to monitor settings..
[12:26] <mikeconcepts2> I'd like to instal a program that automatically keeps the headers up to date, even if the kernel changes
[12:26] <mnoir> Alarm: me too
[12:26] <steel_lady> stefg, I live in a foreign country and there I communicate with people from my country
[12:26] <BackPacker> Enverex: Sorry, what was the question again?   :-)
[12:26] <SpAc> Ok, I'm back in business with Ubuntu!
[12:27] <Alarm> ehehehe allright :)
[12:27] <un_operateur> mgardner, you need to check both the mount permissions as well as permissions on the share
[12:27] <mnoir> Alarm: snot supposed to
[12:27] <stefg> steel_lady: so please give me an url, so that i can see what it takes (or if it's possible) to get it going
[12:27] <RandomPerson> Hey, is there a program that does my homework and toast at the same time?
[12:27] <mikeconcepts2> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic or 386, which is correct?
[12:27] <sivik> mikeconcepts2, niether
[12:28] <un_operateur> mikeconcepts2, it's not everyday you need the kernel-headers -- so you just install them if and when you need them
[12:28] <mgardner> un_operateur, I think I have them set correctly.  I can browse to it and do read/write but not through the mounts
[12:28] <NkZ> Greetings guys
[12:28] <SpAc> I had a few headaches figuring out which way was the best to handle my dual monitors. I ended up just going with TwinView.
[12:28] <steel_lady> stefg http://chat.net.hr/chat.jsp  first click on green 'slazem se' than click on 'simple' icon. from that step it doesnt work on the next page
[12:28] <Mba7eth> why i cant run 2 different audio applications at the same time ? anyone any idea ???
[12:28] <mikeconcepts2> so if and when I need them, generic or 386
[12:28] <sivik> mikeconcepts2, you have to type it correctly
[12:29] <Intelligitimate> I got what seems like a stupid question to me, but I am unable to find the answer to it. Is a normal DVD burner able to burn to a mini DVD, or do you need some sort of special mini DVD burner?
[12:29] <sivik> Intelligitimate, a normal one will do it
[12:29] <un_operateur> mgardner, how have you mounted this share? through nautilus?
[12:29] <stefg> steel_lady: i have a login prompt.. do you get to that pont too?
[12:29] <NkZ> I have a question: Sometimes after running games, when closing them ( For Example, Planet Penguin Racer) the "Window" hangs up. It does not close completely and makes me unable to unable to use the desktop, even when I can see it and move the mouse. I am using Beryl, What could I do to fix this?
[12:30] <mgardner> un_operateur, how so do you mean? As in Places>Connect To Server... ?
[12:30] <steel_lady> no, instead of login boxes i have grey hole in the page
[12:30] <un_operateur> mgardner, errm, i'm asking you how you mounted the share? :)
[12:30] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ sudo aptitute remove mythtv
[12:30] <Alarm> sudo: aptitute: command not found
[12:30] <stefg> steel_lady: alright,
[12:30] <Alarm> whats wrong in that ?
[12:30] <un_operateur> Alarm, aptitude*
[12:31] <mgardner> un_operateur, I mounted the drive in fstab.  Give me a sec and I'll paste bin the lines I used
[12:31] <Alarm> oops. sorry
[12:31] <SpAc> in gnome, is there a way to have set each monitor it's own wallpaper? Or do I have to just use gimp to stick them together?
[12:31] <gnomefreak> Alarm: aptitude
[12:31] <RandomPerson> isn't aptitude the updated version of apt on debian?
[12:31] <un_operateur> Alarm, like the "aptitude" exams you take for job interviews, etc
[12:31] <Alarm> ;)
[12:31] <gnomefreak> RandomPerson: no it is different on the way it handles packages
[12:31] <NkZ> I have a question: Sometimes after running games, when closing them ( For Example, Planet Penguin Racer) the "Window" hangs up. It does not close completely and makes me unable to use the desktop, even when I can see it and move the mouse. I am using Beryl, What could I do to fix this?
[12:31] <gleesond> any one know how to get s-video to work on an ati card?
[12:32] <Moose> Is there any full mail relaying software out there that is just ready to go with some simple configuration? Not just sendmail, but where I can send AND receive from a windows based client...
[12:32] <un_operateur> RandomPerson, i wouldnt say that -- I could call it an advanced apt-get (even thought it isnt really)
[12:32] <Alarm> sorry , thanks again for the help. i am just fighting to install mythtv and its a big pain to make that thing work especially when mysql is messing up things
[12:32] <Alarm> and cant find a good post in ubuntu forums of how to install it
[12:32] <RandomPerson> thanks, gnomefreak, un_operateur
[12:32] <livevil> someone can help me to allow my combo dvd reading udf dvd?
[12:33] <un_operateur> Moose, !postfix
[12:33] <pollywog> any ideas on configuring a rt2500 card in Edgy?
[12:33] <brandon2007> I need help with suspend mode it keeps waking up right after I suspend it in 6.10 desktop.
[12:33] <ikonia> pollywog: from what I've read - its a pain but possible
[12:33] <un_operateur> pollywog, is that the wireless card?
[12:33] <mgardner> un_operateur, here is paste bin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1369/
[12:33] <pollywog> the card worked in Linspire but I can't get it to work in Ubuntu
[12:33] <pollywog> yes
[12:33] <pollywog> wireless
[12:33] <ikonia> pollywog: a few people have come in here asking ofr the same problems
[12:33] <ikonia> pollywog: the trick is to use the gui as I understand it
[12:34] <sivik> my ati card still doesn't work properly
[12:34] <pollywog> I tried the trick
[12:34] <un_operateur> pollywog, IIRC there is a rt2500 package containing the drivers
[12:34] <pollywog> it doesn't work
[12:34] <pr0t0type> hi @ll
[12:34] <mnoir> SpAc: define monitor (as opposed to desktop) and why gimp would be used to set the wallpaler (i assume you mean the background of what is known as the root window
[12:34] <pollywog> un_operateur: I have it installed
[12:34] <stefg> steel_lady: ok, it /can/ work, we just have to figure out why the java in your browser does not work. Can you do a screenshot of a fullscreen firefox when you type 'about:plugins' in the address bar?
[12:34] <mnoir> wallpaler=wallpaper
[12:34] <ikonia> pollywog: the package does work, and its a lot easier to use the gui from the package
[12:34] <pollywog> the wifi interface is detected but that's it
[12:34] <NkZ> Anyone has the same Beryl window closing crash? Anyone knows how to fix it?
[12:35] <pr0t0type> the line 'wget http://beryl-mirror.lupine.me.uk/1609B551.gpg -O- | sudo apt-' doesn't work what am i doing wrong ?
[12:35] <pollywog> I suppose it is not a serious enough problem to go back to Linspire or Freespire
[12:35] <BackPacker> pollywog: for what it's worth, my Belkin rt2500 card worked out of the box with Dapper, Suse 10.0 and Mandrive 2007
[12:35] <pollywog> oic
[12:35] <toulouse> hey guys, i am installing another linux on a partition, when it asks me to install GRub, what should i say? yes, or no?
[12:35] <brandon2007> I need help with suspend mode it keeps waking up right after I suspend it in 6.10 desktop. Any current way to fix this?
[12:35] <SpAc> mnoir, dual monitor setup. I wouldn't use gimp to set the wallpaper, just to join two images together to make one that spans across both displays.
[12:35] <ikonia> BackPacker: how does that have any relevence ?
[12:35] <juano__> pr0t0type: sudo apt-get?
[12:35] <steel_lady> stefg, ok, I just have to see how to make an image of screenshot
[12:35] <ikonia> its a totally different card
[12:35] <un_operateur> mgardner, it looks good .. what happens if you do something like  -- sudo touch /mnt/SharedFile/foobar ?
[12:36] <BackPacker> ikonia: Maybe I'm wrong but I thought that the rt2500 refers to the chip the card uses
[12:36] <stefg> steel_lady: in gnome theres an app for that in Applicaions-Accessories
[12:36] <pollywog> and the network profiles menu does not work in Edgy
[12:36] <ikonia> it does - but they are different chipsets
[12:36] <riddlebox> how do I make up a deb package that has firmware for a tv tuner card?
[12:36] <sivik> riddlebox, what kind of tvtuner card?
[12:36] <ikonia> pollywog: it should do - I've seen two users do it
[12:36] <mgardner> un_operateur, nothing
[12:36] <toulouse> does grub cover multiple os's  over multiple partitions??
[12:36] <mnoir> SpAc: oh - I see - i do not know the answer but i bet that gnome does not know that it is two sep screens for the purpose of the background - your solution is clever
[12:36] <steel_lady> stefg that page gave me huuuge list of results and says everything is enabled
[12:37] <riddlebox> sivik, it is one that uses ivtv firmware
[12:37] <sivik> riddlebox, what brand?
[12:37] <un_operateur> toulouse, well, you don't have to -- but you might as well install it -- but remember to update grub under that installation later so that you can boot into this version too
[12:37] <brandon2007> I need help with suspend mode it keeps waking up right after I suspend it in 6.10 desktop. Any current way to fix this?
[12:37] <riddlebox> sivik, hauppage
[12:37] <stefg> steel_lady: does it mention java or jre?
[12:37] <BackPacker> ikonia: He said he wanted to configure an rt2500 card in Edgy...
[12:37] <ikonia> toulouse: grub is a boot loader - you can configure it to boot most things
[12:37] <mgardner> un_operateur, I know that may sound noobish, but it is kind of a noob question, what is touch?
[12:37] <ikonia> BackPacker: didn't you say a different card ?
[12:37] <pollywog> Ubuntu's KDE does not do WPA but then neither do Linspire and Freespire
[12:37] <steel_lady> yes a lot of times
[12:37] <pr0t0type>  juano__ i want to install the 3d desktop and im on a readme where i have to put new deb's to the source.list
[12:37] <sivik> riddlebox, did you follow the how to at wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:37] <BackPacker> ikonia: No, mine's a Belkin PCMCIA card that uses the rt2500 driver
[12:37] <SpAc> mnoir, that is correct, it sees it as one big screen. Was wondering if there is an app that might help me out (apart from gimp)
[12:37] <chovy> how do i bring down eth0 so i can use the modem?
[12:37] <un_operateur> mgardner, errm, touch creates a zer-length file if the file does not exist, otherwise it updates the access times on files
[12:37] <mnoir> mgardner: type man touch in a terminal window to read the doc
[12:37] <n2diy> ! touch
[12:38] <toulouse> un_operateur: so if i install it on that partition, i will Not be able to boot into ubuntu
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <sivik> chovy, sudo ifdown eth0
[12:38] <ikonia> ahhhhhhh
[12:38] <ikonia> apologies
[12:38] <mgardner> un_operateur, doing that now
[12:38] <BackPacker> ikonia: that's ok :-)
[12:38] <juano__> pr0t0type: you can use synaptic and them from there
[12:38] <brandon2007> I need help with suspend mode it keeps waking up right after I suspend it in 6.10 desktop. Any current way to fix this?
[12:38] <mgardner> un_operateur, I realized the stupidity of my question as I asked it
[12:38] <un_operateur> toulouse, correct, not until you update that grub to include an option for ubuntu
[12:38] <BackPacker> ikonia: at least he knows about other possibilities, e.g. Dapper
[12:38] <pollywog> I got a WinTV USB tv stick and in Debian I can't get it to work so it probably won't work in Ubuntu - it barely works in XP
[12:38] <riddlebox> sivik, not yet, I will look at it
[12:38] <sivik> riddlebox, thats what i did and got my working in mythtv
[12:38] <ikonia> pollywog: wintv usb suck in linux
[12:39] <rogue780> is there a way to set samba up so it doesn't require any username and password to view and modify a share?
[12:39] <un_operateur> mgardner, well, if nothing happened or no output was spit out, it indicates that the file was touched -- can you verify -- ls -l /mnt/SharedFile/foobar
[12:39] <juano__> pr0t0type: are you trying to install beryl?
[12:39] <un_operateur> rogue780, google "samba guest access"
[12:39] <ikonia> rogue780: yes, anonymous access
[12:39] <toulouse> un_operator: ok, so how do  I update Grub?
[12:39] <steel_lady> stefg, I have a lot of lines under GCJ Web Browser Plugin 0.92 and Java(TM) Plug-in 1.5.0_10-b03
[12:39] <pollywog> ikonia: I am not even sure it is a MythTV problem
[12:39] <mgardner> un_operateur, foobar as in a file name or directories ok as well
[12:39] <brandon2007> I need help with suspend mode it keeps waking up right after I suspend it in 6.10 desktop. Any current way to fix this?
[12:39] <NkZ> pr0t0type: There is a guide to Install Beryl at UbuntuForums.
[12:39] <stefg> steel_lady: hmmmm... then it should work, actually.  I know it sounds windowsish, but i'd suggest a reboot, and then try it again to have a defined starting point
[12:39] <riddlebox> sivik, I have it working, but when ubuntu puts a kernel update out I have to reinstall the ivtv drivers
[12:39] <steel_lady> stefg, they are those who mention java
[12:39] <pollywog> and I had trouble getting Mythtv to work
[12:39] <ikonia> pollywog: if your using usb tv - it won't be a mythproblem
[12:39] <un_operateur> !grub | toulouse
[12:39] <ubotu> toulouse: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:39] <sivik> riddlebox, thats pretty normal
[12:40] <steel_lady> stefg I already did the reboot
[12:40] <RedragonX> can some1 help me?
[12:40] <pr0t0type> thx i install beryl now with synaptic :)
[12:40] <un_operateur> mgardner, touch would have created a file
[12:40] <ikonia> RedragonX: whats up
[12:40] <camerong> hey i need some help.. i am trying to get my ATI card to work (via https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ) and have learned that i need to run the command "sudo aptitude install module-assistant build-essential debhelper debconf dh-make fakeroot libstdc++5" and then "linux-headers-$(uname -r)" to acquire some things from a server.. however i do not have internet connection on my ubuntu box so i plan to download the fi
[12:40] <riddlebox> sivik, thats why I would like to create ivtv debs, and when it happens, I can update it right away
[12:40] <stefg> steel_lady: tell me about your RAM and your CPU
[12:40] <sivik> riddlebox, thats extremely hard
[12:40] <ikonia> camerong: you can't
[12:40] <camerong> ..
[12:40] <mgardner> un_operateur, oh ok.  I must just be dense tonight.  Ok I touched another file in a directory, but ya I see what you're getting at
[12:40] <RedragonX> i get currupted graphics when i first run
[12:40] <camerong> so .. its impossible for me to ever use ubuntu..?
[12:40] <Jaykul> http://geobot.geoshell.org/p/17  <-- I have an Oops in ext3.  Is there anyone who can ... well, at least advise me on where I should report it?
[12:41] <mgardner> un_operateur, I get root root back on owner and group on that file
[12:41] <RedragonX> i cant see anything
[12:41] <ikonia> camerong: not unless you download the packages and burn them onto a cd
[12:41] <riddlebox> sivik, why would you say that?
[12:41] <pr0t0type> i can install the whole 3d desktop with synaptic is that right ??
[12:41] <un_operateur> mgardner, well, do the files get touched successfully, thats all i am after at this moment? :)
[12:41] <brandon2007> I NEED HELP with suspend mode it keeps waking up right after I suspend it in 6.10 desktop. Any current way to fix this? :(
[12:41] <steel_lady> stefg 1G RAM, 1.8 Intel centrino duo on DELL inspiron 6400
[12:41] <RedragonX> spo i cant install
[12:41] <camerong> well that sucks!!
[12:41] <camerong> thanks
[12:41] <stefg> steel_lady: ok, that easily runs java
[12:41] <ikonia> no problem
[12:41] <un_operateur> mgardner, ok, so root can write to the share -- but not normal users
[12:41] <sivik> riddlebox, try reading http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8047723203.html
[12:41] <pollywog> camerong what was the problem?
[12:41] <mgardner> un_operateur, yes it updated time and such
[12:41] <camerong> ! wifi | camerong
[12:41] <ubotu> camerong: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:41] <pollywog> oh
[12:41] <pollywog> same here
[12:42] <NkZ> Pr0t0type: You can try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy?highlight=%28beryl%29
[12:42] <pollywog> but I am not going back to Linspire just because wifi won't work in Ubuntu
[12:42] <un_operateur> mgardner, errm, just a second
[12:42] <mgardner> un_operateur, sure
[12:42] <ikonia> pollywog: we know - you've told us twice
[12:42] <pollywog> Linspire is good but it has limitations
[12:42] <pollywog> k
[12:42] <brandon2007> I need help with suspend mode it keeps waking up right after I suspend it in 6.10 desktop. Any current way to fix this? :(
[12:42] <NkZ> Anyone has the same Beryl window closing crash? Anyone knows how to fix it?
[12:42] <n2diy> pollywog: curious, why did you bail out on linspire?
[12:42] <camerong> ok than there is another workaround i could use: i could set up my wifi connection to work on my ubuntu box so i can download the packages there.. thing is i need to do that without my xserver graphical user interface.. how would i go about setting it up at the command prompt?
[12:43] <pr0t0type> thx NkZ i reading it ;)
[12:43] <pollywog> n2diy: because I was unable to recompile a kernel
[12:43] <steel_lady> stefg, it is strange but other people tried to use some other pages for example for banking on my comp and the form worked but then when they clicked on apply button it didn't react
[12:43] <pollywog> or even configure it for Mythtv
[12:43] <RedragonX> ikonia
[12:43] <ikonia> camerong: you can use xorg - do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
 Welcome. :-)
[12:43] <ikonia> camerong: then select "vesa"
[12:43] <ikonia> camerong: it will give poor performance but usable
[12:43] <NkZ> Gone. Take care guys!
[12:43] <n2diy> pollywog: why was that, new kernels weren't available?
[12:43] <brandon2007> Can anyone help me with suspend mode it keeps waking up right after I suspend it in 6.10 desktop. Any current way to fix this?
[12:44] <pollywog> n2diy: yes that was a big part of it
[12:44] <ikonia> brandon2007: stop asking ever 20 seconds please
[12:44] <Masqy> Does edgy use Firefox 2.0 ?
[12:44] <ikonia> Masqy: yes
[12:44] <n2diy> pollywog: interesting, thanks.
[12:44] <RedragonX> ikonia
[12:44] <steel_lady> stefg, if it works for you that maybe is not java but something else included in the page
[12:44] <ikonia> RedragonX: what ?
[12:44] <BULLE> brandon2007: the most likely cause is actualy your computers bios i would think, and then its not much to do about it
[12:44] <Masqy> and, are there any good reasons not to upgrade to it (I currently use 6.06)
[12:44] <ikonia> Masqy: lack of long term support
[12:44] <RedragonX> i cant see anything
[12:45] <ikonia> Masqy: more bleeding edge, changes to init
[12:45] <ikonia> etc
[12:45] <pollywog> but Freespire and Linspire detected all the hardware on the laptop, which Debian and Xandros would dnot do
[12:45] <camerong> ikonia: i am currrently set to vesa, i stil lneed the drivers for "startx" to do anything but return errors.. ive talked to 3 or 4 other poeple here about this and the only way i can really fix it is by setting up my internet on my ubuntu box by using commands at the "command prompt/bash/terminal/whatever its called"
[12:45] <brandon2007> BULLE: but suspend works for you?
[12:45] <Masqy> ikonia:  can you refer to the changes in init?
[12:45] <ikonia> camerong: fair enough
[12:45] <pollywog> I still use Debian on my two desktop machines
[12:45] <BULLE> brandon2007: on one of my machines, not on the other
[12:45] <camerong> ikonia: so how would i go about setting up my wifi at the terminal, do you think? and thank you for your help
[12:45] <ikonia> Masqy: yes, system V init has been replaced by an intergrated init system
[12:45] <Masqy> ouch!
[12:46] <ikonia> camerong: the guide on the forums does mention how to do it with the console
[12:46] <un_operateur> mgardner, check out the read/write access section here http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/HowToMountsmbfsSharesPermanently
[12:46] <brandon2007> BULLE: I guess it could be the bios ill check. but i dont think it is it.
[12:46] <Zambezi> Can I change my graficcard just like that
[12:46] <camerong> ikonia: thanks i will search the forums now unless you have the link offhand
[12:46] <Masqy> ikonia: just for making it a bit different from Debian, or is it really better? I mean, AFAIK, most people were quite ok with it..
[12:46] <ikonia> camerong: really, sorry  - not to hand
[12:46] <ReTyPe> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in <module>    from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManagerImportError: No module named UpdateManager.UpdateManager
[12:47] <camerong> ikonia: thanks again il update you on my progress later
[12:47] <stefg> steel_lady: so i get to the login prompt (which already is java) on ubuntu dapper , java 5, firefox 2.0... nothing special.
[12:47] <ikonia> Masqy: most people won't notice - I hate it but that because I like System V - I'm old school
[12:47] <BULLE> brandon2007: the big majority of reasons suspend doesnt work, is broken bios implementations, and its not anything you can do about it, except complain to the manufacturer
[12:47] <ab> k'
[12:47] <rabble> is it possible to use update-manage without a gui? is there a command line version of the update-manage script?
[12:47] <Masqy> ikonia: exactly, I mean, I use it since I use linux or so..
[12:47] <ikonia> camerong: also edgy uses the knew block id method of identifying disks - which may or may not make it upstream into the kernel
[12:48] <speyer> hi all
[12:48] <stefg> steel_lady: so it's hard to track don what's broken on your system, because a /relatively/ standard install works for me
[12:48] <brandon2007> BULLE: but it works with windows and it worked with dapper
[12:48] <speyer> why i cannot select file with my mouse simply when i click on it and move cursor ?
[12:48] <pollywog> Bulle: I think the manufacturers for the most part do not listen to Linux users
[12:48] <BULLE> brandon2007: hmmmz, if it worked with dapper, then im inclined to belive bios is not the issue indeed
[12:48] <BULLE> pollywog: true true
[12:48] <mgardner> un_operateur, awesome!  Thanks.  I think I may have saw this page before but I didn't catch the permissions section.  Thanks again!
[12:48] <steel_lady> stefg, what then? I have everything actualized! also there were some pages that didn't work so I couldn't buy plane tickets!
[12:48] <ikonia> Masqy: my opinion - edgy is testing the water on a few technologys - the next release may / may not contain/change again
[12:48] <un_operateur> mgardner, did it work ?
[12:48] <Jaykul> So, I'll take the lack of response as nobody in here being interested in an Oops in ext3
[12:48] <camerong> ikonia: i dont know what you mean about block ids and identifying disks etc.. but i can't find the wifi thread on ubuntuforums.org - i just searched
[12:48] <speyer> where can i add this option like it  works on my windows machine . any idea ?
[12:48] <pollywog> they act like Linux users are parolees
[12:49] <ikonia> camerong: check the wiki
[12:49] <steel_lady> stefg, somebody mantion to me some vbs or something strange like that that might have the problem
[12:49] <camerong> ikonia: thanks, will do
[12:49] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> Can someone please help me recover 30 files in 1 folder, these are people's accounts
[12:49] <stefg> steel_lady: i'm out of ideas... can it be your internet provider or some proxy?
[12:49] <ikonia> Masqy: the block id comment was for you not camerong
[12:49] <brandon2007> BULLE: hmmm its unfortunate that I can't have suspend mode..... Any suggestions or links for help?
[12:49] <speyer> in nautilus i  cannot select file while mouse click . and then move the cursor any idea ?
[12:49] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> Can someone please help me recover 30 files in 1 folder, these are people's accounts
[12:49] <mgardner> un_operateur, I haven't tried it yet, but it makes sense.   Once again I must find the answers for myself......................................................................................................... WELL CYA PPL
[12:51] <Masqy> ikonia: I can't really get why people should spend time on developing their own init system..
[12:51] <pollywog> ever heard of backups?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> slmadhjflsadhkjf: please watch your language and take the offtopic topics to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:51] <Flannel> slmadhjflsadhkjf: You can "recover" files just as well in linux and windows, with a tool that scans your empty HD space for partial files
[12:51] <ikonia> Masqy: I agree
[12:51] <assasukasse> un_operateur seems site down..
[12:51] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> ok flannel if i JUST deleted them, how am i retrive them?
[12:52] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> it just happened no less than 20 minutes ago.
[12:52] <RedragonX> ikonia can u fix my problem
[12:52] <ikonia> slmadhjflsadhkjf: if its serious - you should a.) have taken a backup b.) have someone on site who knows how to use ext3 journeling recovery on contract
[12:52] <ikonia> RedragonX: no
[12:52] <un_operateur> assasukasse, impossible, i just went there not 30 second before you asked the question
[12:52] <steel_lady> stefg, remember that page I gave you? under those login boxes there is an orange line and another one with 4 links. I can see tham. but on whichever of them I click, I always get the same window
[12:52] <mby> hi All, where can I find info about version of my sound card drivers ??
[12:52] <RedragonX> who can
[12:52] <assasukasse> un_operateur i dunno then
[12:52] <stefg> steel_lady: hmmm, sorry. We found out that it's not a general problem, but a personal problem on your machine. java is installed, machine is powerful enough. That's where i run out of ideas... any local Linux user group in your area, or anyne els with input?
[12:52] <un_operateur> assasukasse, and i reloaded the page just now -- it works ok
[12:52] <ikonia> mby: its related to the kernel version
[12:52] <specialbuddy> can anyone help me with this problem: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg~ is not installed
[12:52] <camerong> ikonia: before i can setup my wifi i need to download a package to use with the adaptor.. thats ahell of a catch 22 (so il never get it to work) guess il jkust uninstall ubuntu and find a new distro
[12:52] <assasukasse> un_operateur now it works..maybe dns problems..
[12:52] <un_operateur> assasukasse, you wanting to access the files from a windows computer?
[12:52] <truthfatal> Is there an equivalent app/script somewhere to replace the Ubuntu-updater applet (Little Orange Box thingy) for fluxbox?
[12:52] <camerong> thanks though, ttyl
[12:53] <assasukasse> yes un_operateur
[12:53] <philluk86> if i cant enable dma on my hard drive is it likely that im using the generic ide controller driver?
[12:53] <mby> ikonia: I hava alsa and kernel .20-5
[12:53] <steel_lady> stefg, no one person I knew refused to help me because of his personal reasons
[12:53] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> Can someone please help me recover 30 files in 1 folder, these are people's accounts
[12:53] <un_operateur> assasukasse, well, from the windows computer -- start - run - \\thiscomputersname\sharename
[12:53] <ikonia> mby: how odo you have that - what version are you uinsg
[12:53] <pollywog> what is Feisty Fawn is that the next version of Ubuntu?
[12:53] <craigbass1976> slmadhjflsadhkjf, what happened to them?
[12:53] <ikonia> slmadhjflsadhkjf: they are gone
[12:53] <assasukasse> un_operateur asks me username-password
[12:53] <speyer> is there anyway i can select files in nautilus with the mouse ? just go over files while clicking ?
[12:53] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> i clicked delete then clicked empty trash
[12:54] <un_operateur> assasukasse, errm, enter your username and password
[12:54] <craigbass1976> Anyone know why I can't mount up a windows share? mount -t smbfs //address/Documents /mnt won't work
[12:54] <gnomefreak> pollywog: feisty fawn is the next release set for april
[12:54] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> and i really need these files?
[12:54] <pollywog> oic I think it might support my rt2500
[12:54] <ikonia> !samba | craigbass1976
[12:54] <erisco> what can I do about getting graphical support? I do not believe ubuntu is picking up my Radeon 200 Xpress Series card
[12:54] <ubotu> craigbass1976: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:54] <assasukasse> un_operateur i entered ubuntu username and password and get an error only..
[12:54] <ikonia> slmadhjflsadhkjf: they are gone
[12:54] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> ikonia put me on ingnore
[12:54] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> ignore*
[12:54] <un_operateur> craigbass1976, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/HowToMountsmbfsSharesPermanently
[12:54] <craigbass1976> slmadhjflsadhkjf, As far as I know, you're out of luck without some sort of recovery tool, but even those are hard I think with ext3
[12:55] <pollywog> I think there is a rt2500 howto somewhere and I am trying to find it
[12:55] <ikonia> slmadhjflsadhkjf: it would be helpful if you didn't keep asking the channel every 30 seconds
[12:55] <BULLE> slmadhjflsadhkjf: ikonia is merely telling you the facts
[12:55] <Lynoure> slmadhjflsadhkjf: the trash is there so that you have a second chance to not delete. On the command line you would not have even that.
[12:55] <ikonia> it interupts the flow
[12:55] <un_operateur> assasukasse, please quote errors -- they are vital in troubleshooting
[12:55] <stefg> steel_lady: probably the site is just programmed for IE... i get the same windows as you (all equal)
[12:55] <assasukasse> un_operateur keeps asking me the password, over and over, never show me anything..
[12:55] <Flannel> slmadhjflsadhkjf: http://linux.sys-con.com/read/117909.htm  is one method, there are plenty of articles on the internet.
[12:56] <steel_lady> stefg but you get the login boxes on linux in firefox?
[12:56] <stefg> steel_lady: so i tend to blame it on the web designer and not on firefox
[12:56] <BULLE> slmadhjflsadhkjf: just google for undelete ext2 and ext3 to find out why undeletion on ext2/3 is so hard
[12:56] <Flannel> slmadhjflsadhkjf: there's even some software out there to do it.
[12:56] <stefg> steel_lady: yes
[12:56] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> is it really that hard to undelete 1 folder?
[12:56] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> screw it i have to attempt it.
[12:56] <Lynoure> slmadhjflsadhkjf: there are some tools that claim they can do recovery, but the first step always tends to be "stop using the filesystem right now"
[12:56] <steel_lady> but stefg I was runing that page normally before and I know thet there on the page said it is compatible with linux
[12:56] <anorion_> it wouldnt matter the number of folders... if you can do one you can do many
[12:56] <un_operateur> assasukasse, it looks like your samba users arent mapped to your system users yet -- please refer to one of the howtos here http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=samba+share+ubuntu&btnG=Search
[12:56] <anorion_> kinda faulty logic
[12:56] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> i can't lose people's account information that i just did today.
[12:56] <pollywog> I found some info that WPA should work
[12:56] <ikonia> slmadhjflsadhkjf: the files are gone -
[12:56] <ikonia> time to accept it
[12:57] <ikonia> and move on
[12:57] <pollywog> so why doesn't the gui show it as an option?
[12:57] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> ikonia i dont like you
[12:57] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> at all.
[12:57] <BULLE> slmadhjflsadhkjf: you just have
[12:57] <ikonia> thats not going to bring your files back
[12:57] <craigbass1976> ikonia, ok, well I'm using the syntax that I've been using for years, which is what is on the link you posted, and things still aren't going well.  I just went to a fedora box and mounted the share up with no trouble.  Is there somethign I need to instlal?  I did apt-get install samba, but I thought it was unnecessary since ubuntu is only going to be the client
[12:57] <ikonia> if you like me or not
[12:57] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> and i hope your pc burns your house down for being negative.
[12:57] <assasukasse> un_operateur i didn't connect to the "computer name" but on the ip..is the same no?
[12:57] <BULLE> slmadhjflsadhkjf: not liking ikonia is not going to fix your fuckup, basicly, read the url that was pasted, then you will understand why undeletion is not an option
[12:57] <Flannel> !language
[12:57] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:57] <aztek> i chmod'd -Rf 777 a folder and it's files. what is the "default" for a folder that's untarred as root so I can set it back.
[12:57] <erisco> eh? say where can I go for help on graphic card support? I am using Edgy Eft
[12:58] <ikonia> slmadhjflsadhkjf: my pc can burn down. I have backups :o)
[12:58] <Flannel> erisco: this is the place
[12:58] <pollywog> for the Ubuntu families
[12:58] <ikonia> I can recover files
[12:58] <BULLE> ikonia: LOL!
[12:58] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> BULLE you're fucup here.
[12:58] <mgardner> un_operateur, that worked like a charm.  Before I couldn't get "rename" in the context menu when I was browsing around.  Now it works like a charm.  Thanks!
[12:58] <un_operateur> assasukasse, yea, thats quite natural .. you'll need to setup winbind (part of samba) up to respond to name-queries
[12:58] <Timmmm> Rant: Dargh! Damn linux! It has no forwards compatibility *whatsoever*. That alone is reason enough to use windows.
[12:58] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> thanks a lot a-holes and thanks to those who gave me the link.
[12:58] <pollywog> I am going to put my computer in a bucket so my house won't burn
[12:58] <BULLE> slmadhjflsadhkjf: no, im not the one not spending 5 minutes reading up on ext3 undeletion, and not keeping backup
[12:58] <un_operateur> mgardner, you're welcome :)
[12:58] <Lynoure> slmadhjflsadhkjf: If you keep on that path, you'll prolly get banned.
[12:59] <erisco> Alrighty then Flannel. I do not believe ubuntu is picking up my graphic card... as I cannot exceed a 60 megahertz refresh rate, and I cannot exceed the 800x600 screen res. What should I be looking to do in order to resolve this issue?
[12:59] <pollywog> slmadhjflsadhkjf: how do we know you are not trying to retrieve data from someone else's drive?
[12:59] <ikonia> pollywog: it does'nt matter - the data is gone
[12:59] <Lynoure> pollywog: he quit.
[12:59] <pollywog> oh
[12:59] <pollywog> I type too slow
[12:59] <craigbass1976> ikonia, what do you think?   Here's the exact command    mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/Documents /mnt
[12:59] <ikonia> craigbass1976: hlooks reasonable
[01:00] <Mickey> Hi everyone, prob an easy one here
[01:00] <ikonia> Mickey: what a surprise
[01:00] <hairulfr> Anyone gotten Photoshop to work? I can get it started, but then after a coupla secs it freezes, anyone know what this might be?
[01:00] <un_operateur> craigbass1976, have you got the smbfs package installed?
[01:00] <craigbass1976> ikonia, yeah, I don't get it.  I totally just did that in Fedora (well, have to use cifs now in FC) and it wen't without a hitch.
[01:01] <craigbass1976> un_operateur, Maybe not.  I installed samba, but not smbfs.  That's probably it.
[01:01] <Gosha> how would i create a wine menu in the "Applications" menu?
[01:01] <Philluminati> Does anybody know if there is a version of Ubuntu that has para-virtualised support?
[01:01] <n33o> on ubuntu?
[01:01] <n33o> using what?
[01:01] <un_operateur> craigbass1976, wrong package .. samba is the server.. smbfs the client :)
[01:01] <Gosha> !menus
[01:01] <SaLoMoN> Es gibt Ei (!ei), Toast(!toast), Wurst/Kseteller (!zeug), nutella, Marmelade, Muesli, corn-flakes, joguhrt, Milch, Kaffee, gebratenen speck mit bernerwuerstel und Doener
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about menus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <Gosha> !menu
[01:01] <SaLoMoN> Es gibt Ei (!ei), Toast(!toast), Wurst/Kseteller (!zeug), nutella, Marmelade, Muesli, corn-flakes, joguhrt, Milch, Kaffee, gebratenen speck mit bernerwuerstel und Doener
[01:01] <ubotu> menu: generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.29 (edgy), package size 379 kB, installed size 1580 kB
[01:02] <Gosha> !panel
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <Gosha> !panels
[01:02] <Gosha> :(
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <pollywog> I setting up a ralink rt2500 more difficult than for Linksys rt2500?
[01:02] <pollywog> mine is ralink
[01:02] <craigbass1976> un_operateur, Oh, lookie there.  All done.  Duh....  I'll be ok in the morning, I swear.
[01:02] <erisco> !graphic
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <Flannel> !fixres | erisco
[01:02] <ubotu> erisco: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:02] <anorion_> gosha: right click, edit menu, and just add it... i think wine adds its own menu either on install of wine or install of the specific program, and perhaps only if that program would normally make a start menu entry
[01:02] <bung> could someone help me out, i wanted to know if there is a specific i686 version to install, and also if there are DVD releases with more stuff on them.. i only see 700mb files on the torrents page.
[01:02] <craigbass1976> ikonia, did you follow that?  I didn't have smbfs installed.  Didn't even know it was a package.
[01:03] <Mickey> hi (I am Completly new to this) I have installed ubuntu 64bit on my new laptop acer aspire 5101, and have a problem with the old wireless, it has detected the wireless facility, i have put in the ssid and wep key etc.. but in the top right hand corder of gnome the icon has a red sign on it. When i select this it syays 'SIOCIFFLAGS: No such device'  why is this?? please help!! thanks...
[01:03] <ikonia> craigbass1976: yeah you need smbfs
[01:03] <Flannel> bung: no, there isnt.  There is a DVD release.  I'll get you a link
[01:03] <paulcager> !tagsoup
[01:03] <bung> Flannel, thanks
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tagsoup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <ikonia> Mickey: your card isn't supported under 64 bit
[01:03] <paulcager> !java2html
[01:03] <ubotu> java2html: Highlight Java and C++ sources for WWW presentation. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-3 (edgy), package size 94 kB, installed size 344 kB
[01:03] <BULLE> bung: if your computer is connected to the internet, its most likely more efficient to just download the cd, and then install whatever other packages you want later, directly from the net
[01:03] <un_operateur> craigbass1976,  errm, if you didnt have smbfs before -- what error was mount giving you ?>
[01:04] <pollywog> I think the reason I can't get my ralink card to work in Ubuntu is that I have to manually put in the gateway
[01:04] <pollywog> I will need to find the gateway address on the router
[01:04] <junk1> help pls ?
[01:04] <ikonia> junk1: ask the question
[01:04] <craigbass1976> un_operateur, mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on....  The same stuff when I make a mistake, but I couldn't figure out how the command was wrong this time.  It wasn't I guess, just had no smbfs
[01:05] <Flannel> bung: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download scroll all the way down for the DVDs, I suppose it's only 6.06 that has a DVD.
[01:05] <steel_lady> stefg, something strange is happening, I am trying to do some tests with one of my friends
[01:05] <evilofisho> I'ma go sleep. Cya everyone.
[01:05] <un_operateur> craigbass1976, well next time just remember smbmount :)
[01:05] <PriceChild> !ask | junk1
[01:05] <ubotu> junk1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:05] <junk1> ubunto 610 i think i need wireless to work an i need to install it on laptop
[01:05] <NET||abuse> anyone know where there are some real nice backgrounds ? :)
[01:05] <NET||abuse> i want new wallpaper
[01:05] <Mickey> my card is not supported! O deer, anything i can do? or do i need another distro??
[01:05] <PriceChild> junk1, what make of wireless?
[01:05] <un_operateur> NET||abuse, gnome-look.org
[01:05] <stefg> !wifi | Mickey
[01:06] <ubotu> Mickey: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:06] <junk1> does it have dma like knoppix? it helps some i need a fast start
[01:06] <NET||abuse> can't believe how well beryl is working on my machine now.. just upped to edgy after being on dapper for ages
[01:06] <craigbass1976> un_operateur, what's the difference between smbmount and mount -t smbfs ?  Just curious
[01:06] <erisco> could some one give me that info again?
[01:06] <NET||abuse> and this is an old junker compaq, n610c, radeon mobility 7500
[01:06] <ikonia> Mickey: a none 64 bit distro
[01:06] <paulcager> !id3tools
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about id3tools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <bung> Flannel, thanks again
[01:06] <erisco> !xserver
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <paulcager> !eclipse
[01:06] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[01:06] <Gosha> !x
[01:06] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:07] <un_operateur> craigbass1976, smbmount is a script that does the mount for you IIRC .. it's part of the smbfs packag
[01:07] <paulcager> !eclipse-cdt
[01:07] <Gosha> !fishing
[01:07] <ubotu> eclipse-cdt: C/C++ Development Tools for Eclipse. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.1-3 (edgy), package size 17049 kB, installed size 21896 kB
[01:07] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:07] <user01> how do i change the default file type associations?
[01:07] <anorion_> !botsnack
[01:07] <ubotu> Yum!
[01:07] <sarcevic> again here...how can i change the gateway address in my eth0?
[01:08] <sarcevic> i can't find the correct syntax
[01:08] <user01> user01: mime assocations i guess . . .
[01:08] <assasukasse> thanks un_operateur i was able to make it work
[01:08] <un_operateur> assasukasse, cool :) what did you have to do?
[01:08] <Flannel> sarcevic: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:09] <sarcevic> i find it
[01:09] <fokuslee> un_operateur, hey remember u helped me with the chown of my fat32 drive? turn out u can set owner by adding uid=`ur uid` in the mount option colum
[01:09] <sarcevic> thanks
[01:09] <un_operateur> fokuslee, ahh, interesting -- seems you do the same for samba shares too .. as we just found out :)
[01:09] <fokuslee> hehe : )
[01:10] <un_operateur> fokuslee, i'll make a point -- thanks, much appreciated :)
[01:10] <theBishop> is there any software similar to GnuCash that's a bit more "modern"?
[01:10] <fokuslee> un_operatuer yeah i don't have to worri about samba i don't have window file sharing : )
[01:10] <fokuslee> un_operateur:  oh i already made a post i think it can help others too : )
[01:11] <camer0ff> how do i install firefox 2.0?
[01:11] <un_operateur> fokuslee, brilliant .. on the forums or wiki?
[01:11] <Flannel> !firefox | camer0ff
[01:11] <ubotu> camer0ff: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[01:11] <camer0ff> have downloaded the tar.gz file
[01:11] <ikonia> camer0ff: is an update in edy
[01:11] <ikonia> camer0ff: don't use the tar file
[01:11] <camer0ff> kk
[01:11] <ikonia> camer0ff: use apt
[01:11] <camer0ff> apt-get firefox?
[01:11] <ReTyPe> E: java-gcj-compat-dev: subproces post-installation script gaf een foutwaarde 1 terug
[01:12] <fokuslee> un_operateur: forums in genernal help called mounting fat32 the right way, i mentioned u too hehe
[01:12] <Flannel> camer0ff: read the link ubotu gave you
[01:12] <un_operateur> fokuslee, ha ha, thanks :)) nice
[01:12] <camer0ff> yeah its loading
[01:12] <aztek> how do i see what the chmod "value" is for a folder?
[01:12] <ikonia> aztek: ls -la
[01:13] <linux_kid> Why does IE think that .xhtml files are not web pages but are instead download files?
[01:13] <Flannel> linux_kid: because IE is stupid
[01:13] <etank> cause ie is stupid
[01:13] <aztek> IE is software, it can't be stupid
[01:13] <etank> oops too slow
[01:13] <ikonia> linux_kid: how is that anything to do with ubuntu
[01:14] <linux_kid> Flannel: ya i know that, but im a web designer and need xhtml files to work in ie
[01:14] <Flannel> linux_kid: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:14] <stefg> linux_kid: why d questions about IE get ignord here?
[01:14] <linux_kid> ikonia: because web design can be done in ubuntu lol
[01:14] <un_operateur> linux_kid, you'll also need to get your webserver to mark .xhtml files as html content
[01:14] <junk1> i need 1 on 1 walk through for the wireless card set up an install
[01:14] <etank> design for firefox instead
[01:14] <anorion_> wouldn't it be odd to see messages that a website is not compatable with a particular browser? you see it all the time, try mapleglobal.com in firefox for example
[01:15] <Enverex> Does anyone know an easy way to transcode from Quicktime to XviD (or similar format)?
[01:15] <anorion_> that would get the ie people to change
[01:15] <jhalstead> I have a game that requires GCC 4.2  but the version in Synaptic is 4.1    I have looked and cannot find a download for this deb or otherwise
[01:15] <linux_kid> un_oprateur: could you walk me through that?
[01:15] <Flannel> linux_kid: I'll explain it all in -offtopic
[01:15] <Alarm> how can i completely remove mysql from my ubuntu system ? i did remove it with the apt manager as also with aptitude also autoremove, but when i install it , the screen during the installation that asks for the password doesnt appear anymore. which means some 'access' files still remained inside. is there any way to restore everything as in the begining again and start over again ?
[01:15] <linux_kid> Flannel: thanks
[01:15] <erisco> yay, graphics card is now working :D
[01:15] <erisco> finally a decent screen size
[01:16] <erisco> I notice on edgy eft how there is only two desktops... unlike the previous versions which have four. How can I get the other two back?
[01:16] <junk1> can someone walk me through wireless card set up than install
[01:16] <stefg> !wifi | junk1
[01:16] <ubotu> junk1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:16] <etank> right click on the pager and click preferences
[01:17] <pollywog> my wifi password shows in /etc/network/interfaces and that file is chmod 644
[01:17] <etank> change the number of desktops
[01:17] <junk1> ugh
[01:17] <pollywog> what is that all about?
[01:18] <etank> that was for erisco
[01:18] <stefg> for no particular reason: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[01:18] <erisco> etank, pager? I'm not quite sure what you are referring to
[01:18] <junk1> i think i tryd everything it sees the card its active but it dont work
[01:18] <erisco> etank, oh I see what you mean! Thanks
[01:19] <erisco> etank, wow you can even have more than four. Neato :)
[01:19] <etank> erisco wherre the two desktops are on the lower right hand corner of the screen
[01:19] <etank> erisco sure
[01:19] <etank> erisco even add names to them if you want
[01:19] <erisco> I think four is what I am used to though... shouldn't need more
[01:19] <erisco> names? what will names do? *Shrugs*
[01:20] <DrNic1> hi all.  for someone who doesn't want or know how to write complex backup scrips using tar, is there a simple backup program with a nice GUI a new user can use?
[01:20] <erUSUL> !backup
[01:20] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[01:20] <junk1> 900+ people an no one to walk me through it nice hell for this i should stay with xp at least with that i never got  ignored
[01:20] <junk1> see ya
[01:20] <riotkittie> uhhh
[01:21] <specialbuddy> can anyone help me fix kdm?
[01:21] <DrNic1> cheers :)
[01:21] <mnoir> !anyone | specialbuddy
[01:21] <ubotu> specialbuddy: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:21] <riotkittie> specialbuddy: probably out of my league, but what problem are you having?
[01:21] <ReTyPe> i need some help, i always get an python script error when i use apt: http://rafb.net/p/GpeBbl19.html
[01:22] <steel_lady> I don't know if it is due to sam settings but my whole display looks ugly, letters are somehow smeared and like it laks contrast
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[01:22] <Rprp> botu uws wouterh yamal
[01:22] <NET||abuse> right, next on the todo list,, trying to get my pcmcia broadcom wifi card to work,, lspci lists it as bcm4306 chipset
[01:22] <specialbuddy> well I was messing with xserver and now kdm doesn't work
[01:22] <NET||abuse> !bcm43xx
[01:22] <ys76> get yourself?
[01:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:22] <mnoir> specialbuddy: define 'doesn't work'?
[01:23] <mnoir> also define 'messing'
[01:23] <NET||abuse> nothing on bcm43xx on that page,, that sucks
[01:23] <NET||abuse> stupid ubotu
[01:23] <specialbuddy> well I turn on my computer and I have to login at a black and white screen
[01:23] <specialbuddy> a terminal
[01:23] <mby> HOW can I find out what version of sound card driver or graphic card I use ???????????/
[01:23] <riotkittie> specialbuddy: at a prompt... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:24] <riotkittie> it will reconfigure X, undoing whatever changes that you made
[01:24] <riotkittie> that caused it to break ;p
[01:24] <specialbuddy> will that fix kdm?
[01:24] <erUSUL> specialbuddy: have you instaled the server version? if so that's normal behavior a server does not need a gui
[01:24] <riotkittie> it should
[01:24] <user01> how do i open media files on an ssh server in vlc?
[01:24] <specialbuddy> I didn't install server
[01:24] <riotkittie> specialbuddy: it will attempt to reconfigure Xorg automatically, using the correct settings
[01:24] <specialbuddy> I had a gui at first
[01:25] <specialbuddy> then I tried to install nvidia drivers
[01:25] <jrib> NET||abuse: search for "bcm43xx" on the page he gave you
[01:25] <specialbuddy> and screwed it up
[01:25] <riotkittie> then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start ... to start that service, if its not runninf
[01:25] <erUSUL> specialbuddy: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors (lines begin with (EE))
[01:25] <riotkittie> running
[01:25] <mby> HOW can I find out what version of sound card driver or graphic card I use ????????? pls
[01:26] <NET||abuse> jrib, yeh, i found that right after my previous statement,,, duh.. sorry
[01:26] <user01> what directory is ssh mounted under?
[01:26] <floyd> hi all
[01:26] <hakrzcode> user01, you will have to mount a server, using sftp though nautilus. Places->Connect to Server...
[01:26] <jrib> mby: apt-cache policy name_of_package
[01:26] <LucianSolaris> Hey, guys, i have some wierd behavior with ndiswrapper on a bcm4303 where at each reboot, it's either eth0 or wlan0 (it switches randomly with each shutdown/startup).  How do I get it to quit doing that (i want it to primary on one and stay that way)
[01:26] <jrib> NET||abuse: ok, apologize to ubotu :)
[01:26] <riotkittie> yes. apologize to teh bot. he is fragile :P
[01:26] <floyd> what is the use for x-chat
[01:26] <NET||abuse> ubotu, i'm sorry :(
[01:26] <ubotu> im: mail/news handling commands and Perl modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:148-5 (edgy), package size 310 kB, installed size 1260 kB
[01:26] <NET||abuse> haha,,
[01:26] <I-kido> !sorry
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <NET||abuse> ubotu, sorry
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <jrib> floyd: x-chat is an irc client
[01:27] <NET||abuse> haha
[01:27] <NET||abuse> nuts to it
[01:27] <I-kido> :)
[01:27] <floyd> i am ne to this
[01:27] <floyd> new
[01:27] <jrib> !irc | floyd
[01:27] <ubotu> floyd: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[01:27] <snook353> why does firefox not use the "Read Mail" button?
[01:27] <floyd> tnk rib
[01:27] <snook353> or new "message button" under "Tools"?
[01:27] <jhalstead> anyone know the GCC 4.2 download location?
[01:28] <ikonia> jhalstead: if its not in the ubuntu repo's its not available
[01:28] <jrib> jhalstead: gnu.org?
[01:28] <Lurner> hey guys.. this should be easy for experienced users.. I'm on the desktop. I open a terminal.. I type  sudo apt-get install samba and the system tells me..  sudo: unable to lookup (computer name) via gethostbyname()
[01:28] <ikonia> jrib: if he has to ask, should he be bootstrapping a compiler ?
[01:28] <Lurner> how can i get sudo access ?
[01:28] <riotkittie> Lurner:  you changed your hostname?
[01:28] <ikonia> Lurner: your hostname is wrong in /etc/hostname
[01:28] <user01> hakrzcode: do you mean select ssh?  or should there be something specifically for sftp?
[01:28] <erUSUL> Lurner: dns settings
[01:29] <hakrzcode> sftp is the real protocol for nautilus. it is a sub-protocol for ssh. you have the correct option for Connect. @user01
[01:29] <Scabdates> im having terrible troubles partitioning! any help?
[01:29] <Lurner> during the install the system asked for thc computer name.. and I told it to change it from ubuntu to another name..
[01:29] <jrib> ikonia: probably not
[01:29] <morpheus74> When if the next Ubuntu release due out?
[01:29] <riotkittie> Lurner: did you reboot after all of that ?
[01:30] <Lurner> many times
[01:30] <jrib> morpheus74: april, 7.04 == april 2007
[01:30] <stefg> !feisty
[01:30] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[01:30] <Lurner> this was when I installed the system I named it
[01:30] <Scabdates> help?
[01:30] <user01> hakrzcode: because vlc isnt opening the files but totem is
[01:30] <ikonia> Scabdates: with what ?
[01:30] <Marupa> Is there any way to 'streamline' ubuntu graphically?  I don't think the 'prettiness' is needed.
[01:30] <ikonia> Marupa: install the server package
[01:30] <hairulfr> Gah, what's the command that displays ones current kernel version+
[01:30] <hairulfr> ?
[01:31] <jrib> hairulfr: uname -r
[01:31] <pollywog> uname -a
[01:31] <Scabdates> i made a linux specific partition with partition magic the partition was 10 gigs and the swap 500mb but when i reboot to apply i get 2 errors
[01:31] <riotkittie> Lurner: ... cat /etc/hosts  ... see if there's something odd there
[01:31] <Scabdates> the error are
[01:31] <Marupa> nothing you can do when you're already installed?
[01:31] <_caid_> Man, thank god for being able to boot ubuntu installer from windows, couldn't find a writable cd in the house
[01:31] <hairulfr> pollywog: Thank you!
[01:31] <hakrzcode> user01, ok. I guess it is not using gnome-filesystem. hmmm
[01:31] <Scabdates> error 1529 while executing batch error 1529: information mismatch in directory
[01:31] <Scabdates> ive already done CHKDSK
[01:31] <ikonia> Scabdates: thats a windows command
[01:31] <riotkittie> like the old hostname.
[01:31] <erUSUL> Scabdates: well i have very bad experiences with partition magic you should try to use other programs
[01:31] <Scabdates> i was doing it to check my hard disk for errors
[01:31] <user01> hakrzcode: is it being mounted in a directory?
[01:31] <morpheus74> I'm currently running 6.06 LTS.  What's the advantage of updating?
[01:32] <riotkittie> partition magic in not your friend
[01:32] <riotkittie> !gparted
[01:32] <ikonia> Scabdates: this is ubuntu - chkdisk is windows
[01:32] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:32] <ikonia> morpheus74: there isn't any really in my opinion
[01:32] <ikonia> morpheus74: bigger version numbers
[01:32] <Scabdates> ikonia, you seem to misunderstand, i did a chkdisk in windows to check the hardisk for errors because u must do that if u get that error sometimes
[01:32] <Scabdates> but it didnt work
[01:32] <user01> hakrzcode: like my hdas are under media?
[01:32] <Scabdates> erUSUL ay reccomendations?
[01:32] <Lurner> I looked at the file and it doesn't mention the word I have given the computer
[01:32] <hakrzcode> user01, it is a virtual mount. after the icon appears on your desktop, then right click and mount. Or just double click it. It should appear in the browse button, on open file.
[01:32] <ikonia> Scabdates: chkdisk checks "windows file systems" how is that related to ubuntu
[01:33] <steel_lady> stefg, are you still here?
[01:33] <adub> #dsniff ath0   <--- i get dsniff: nids_init:   then goes to next prompt  ??
[01:33] <pr0t0type> thx 4 helping me with 3d desktop :)
[01:33] <stefg> steel_lady: yes
[01:33] <Scabdates> it checks the hard disk for errors, and it also fixes them
[01:33] <Marupa> so there's no way to graphically streamline Ubuntu short of reinstalling?
[01:33] <ikonia> Scabdates: only windows file systems
[01:33] <Scabdates> forget it you arent listening
[01:33] <morpheus74> ikonia: So if I'm happy with 6.06, then there is not reason for me to update, right?
[01:33] <Scabdates> google the error and youll understand
[01:33] <ikonia> morpheus74: yup
[01:33] <steel_lady> stefg, I have an idea we might check
[01:33] <cafuego_> NET||abuse: Still need bcm43xx help?
[01:33] <ikonia> Scabdates: show me the error
[01:33] <pollywog> when I try to load a network profile it just locks up (edgy)
[01:34] <bayziders> How do I find out what my p,subnet mask,gateway,dns server,and mac addrese are?
[01:34] <user01> hakrzcode: right but could i access by entering sftp:// something something?
[01:34] <Marupa> Want to get my usual CPU usage from 10% to 1 or 2.
[01:34] <Scabdates> error 1529 while executing batch
[01:34] <stefg> steel_lady: so ?
[01:34] <floyd> brb to check out later
[01:34] <Scabdates> apparently this can sometimes mean a hard disk problem which CHKDISK can fix
[01:34] <Scabdates> can someone reccomend a partitioning software?
[01:34] <riotkittie> batch? the Partition Magic batch file?
[01:34] <erUSUL> Scabdates: i've always use a livecd (knoppix or even ubuntu) with qparted or gparted.... as usual when messing with partitions make backups as i can not make warranties of any class
[01:34] <NET||abuse> cafuego, i'm on my way with it
[01:34] <hakrzcode> sorry user01, but it is for the gnome apps, only. It is virtual.
[01:34] <steel_lady> stefg, compared to windows, the display in ubuntu looks very ugly. I might have some resolution problem, I have panoramic screen. might it be a problem?
[01:34] <NET||abuse> cafuego, so far i've downloaded my bufalo driver file from the readme.gz
[01:34] <cafuego_> NET||abuse: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/ for the joy of firmware packages.
[01:35] <NET||abuse> just reading the instructions :)
[01:35] <riotkittie> Scabdates: gparted. the Gnome Partition EDitor. DL the live disc
[01:35] <ikonia> Scabdates: partition magic
[01:35] <Masqy> How can I change the ubuntu logo in the top-left corner in GNOME?
[01:35] <ikonia> riotkittie: it won't work for him
[01:35] <hakrzcode> user01, you can throw a smbfs mount into your fstab, to make something a little more solid.
[01:35] <Lurner> I just scrolled back.. I had only good experiences with partion magic
[01:35] <bayziders> Does any one know?
[01:35] <riotkittie> ikonia: gparted wont?
[01:35] <steel_lady> stefg, my letters slook somehow unsharp and i don't like what I see visually in this system in general
[01:35] <riotkittie> bummer.
[01:35] <ikonia> riotkittie: nah
[01:35] <Scabdates> partition magic is the problem here ikonia
[01:35] <ikonia> Scabdates: really ?
[01:36] <riotkittie> Partition Magic is /vile/
[01:36] <stefg> steel_lady: ah... the libfreetype problem in edgy
[01:36] <adub> #dsniff ath0   <--- i get dsniff: nids_init:   then goes to next prompt  ??
[01:36] <Scabdates> im getting anothe rpartition program
[01:36] <ikonia> Scabdates: then you could "try" gparted in the ubuntu installer
[01:36] <steel_lady> stefg, you have solution for that?
[01:36] <user01> hakrzcode: i thought two linux machines should be able to just share files between them?
[01:36] <steel_lady> stefg, can it be the reason?
[01:36] <Lurner> I must have used it like 30 times during this install process and it has saved the day several times for me
[01:36] <ikonia> user01: they can
[01:37] <Scabdates> i did, but the ubuntu installer would give me some sort of mount error or something of that sort
[01:37] <user01> hakrzcode: linux if the computer is named "tod" i could just connect to that one
[01:37] <stefg> steel_lady: no, that's more of a cosmetical issue... java is not affected by that.
[01:37] <bayziders> Please?
[01:37] <hakrzcode> user01, yes they can. sftp is like ftp, but it is ssh. smb is like network neighborhood in windows.
[01:37] <riotkittie> steel_lady: is your monitor an LCD or CRT ?  have you tried fonts under preferences, and toying with settings there?
[01:37] <assasukasse> un_operateur i needed to put the smb password, and change the read write privileges as said in the guide
[01:38] <hakrzcode> user01, yes, you can.
[01:38] <riotkittie> Lurner: it's guarenteed to screw something up about 4 out of 5 times for me :P
[01:38] <user01> hakrzcode: but i thought smb was for connecting a linux to windows or vice versa...
[01:38] <steel_lady> riotkittie I have laptop
[01:38] <riotkittie> anything from errors in the partition table it writes to data loss.
[01:38] <stefg> steel_lady: you can try to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig' and play with the settings
[01:38] <hakrzcode> user01, it is one of the many protocols to connect to linux, or windows.
[01:39] <hintswen> I need help installing Skype
[01:39] <erUSUL> !skype
[01:39] <un_operateur> assasukasse, cool :)
[01:39] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[01:39] <riotkittie> steel_lady: and you are using GNOME?
[01:39] <NET||abuse> anyone know if they can get bcm43xx signal strength meters to work at all??? it's not worked for me before..
[01:39] <steel_lady> riotkittie, preferences where? it is the general problem of the system graphics, not only letters
[01:39] <hintswen> thanks
[01:39] <steel_lady> riotkittie yes I use gnome
[01:39] <riotkittie> oh. steel_lady  ... do you know what kind of graphics card you have? perhaps you need a different driver .
[01:40] <Lurner> riotkitte.. do you have any more tips about my samba issue ? I looked in the hosts file and I found the lines <IP_ADDRESS> localhost then on the next line <IP_ADDRESS> name.networkname
[01:40] <riotkittie> or perhaps you need to manually tweak something in the xorg.conf
[01:40] <Milosch> stupid question - can edgy be installed in text mode
[01:40] <steel_lady> I don't know but I can look at the page, wait
[01:40] <Lurner> where name is the name of the computer and network is the name of the network here in the house
[01:40] <erUSUL> !alternate | Milosch
[01:40] <ubotu> Milosch: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[01:40] <steel_lady> or should I check somewhere in the system?
[01:40] <riotkittie> Milosch: not a stupid question. yes it can, you need the alt cd
[01:40] <user01> hakrzcode: so if i know the name of the computer and its domain . . . and it connects if i enter it as an ip, but not when i just put in the computer name...is there a dns error?
[01:41] <owned> lu
[01:41] <hintswen> aah even that's too confusing for me :(
[01:41] <user01> hakrzcode: like on windows i just enter \\tod\
[01:41] <hakrzcode> user01, you will have to put in the workgroup and computer, if it is not in your workgroup, if using smb. sftp, will use dns only, if you put name.
[01:41] <Lurner> I had a similar problem installing so I used the alt version, installed in oem mode
[01:42] <Milosch> erUSUL: joy
[01:42] <riotkittie> its a samba issue? i thought it was a sudo issue
[01:42] <LucianSolaris> owned
[01:42] <LucianSolaris> you there?
[01:42] <Dionysos22> what's a good C/C++ development environment? are there any graphical environments?
[01:42] <hakrzcode> user01, it will find if you put in workgroup and computer, if you connect with smb. It uses nmb to lookup the name.
[01:42] <LucianSolaris> you askin' for me?
[01:42] <Lurner> It's both.. can we go private for a moment ?
[01:42] <riotkittie> brb. i have a toddler attacking me
[01:42] <user01> hakrzcode: ok ill try that...
[01:43] <foutrelis> adaptr: I got my monitor to run at 72 Hz last night :)
[01:43] <steel_lady> riotkittie, I believe I might have ATI MobilityTM  Radeon X1300
[01:43] <Doow> Dionysos22: what platform?
[01:43] <LucianSolaris> Hey, anyone familiar with why ndiswrapper and a broadcom wireless card keeps switchin between eth0 and wlan0 everytime the system is started up?
[01:44] <Dionysos22> x86
[01:44] <Doow> Dionysos22: oops, for some reason I thought I was in ##c++
[01:44] <NET||abuse> cafuego, can you answer me a question or two on the config from bcm4306 chip??
[01:44] <Doow> Dionysos22: I use eclipse
[01:44] <Lurner> hey guys.. this should be easy for experienced users.. I'm on the desktop. I open a terminal.. I type  sudo apt-get install samba and the system tells me..  sudo: unable to lookup (computer name) via gethostbyname()
[01:45] <NET||abuse> cafuego, i'm really interested in being able to get signal strength readings from it, do you know if that's possible at al??
[01:45] <Milosch> thanks, riotkittie, erUSUL
[01:45] <Doow> Dionysos22: I never got anjuta to work properly, but I guess that's the "standard" gnome IDE
[01:45] <Dionysos22> very well, thanks a bunch
[01:45] <assasukasse> I am looking for a wifi signal monitor, not like gnome one, that is always 98% until it drops, i want something more REAL..what can i try?
[01:46] <stefg> steel_lady: I'm very tempted to suggest a dapper install to you (probably side by side withe edgy)... i had so many strange issues with edgy that i fialy decided to kick it (on my desktop-PC, but running it on my laptop)
[01:46] <bayziders> Ok since no one answerd i will ask again. How do I find out what my ip address,subnet mask,gateway,dns server,and mac addrese are
[01:46] <Doow> Dionysos22: oh, if you use eclipse you need to install CDT too (the c/c++ plugin)
[01:46] <user01> hakrzcode: is Windows Share smb?
[01:46] <hakrzcode> user01, yes.
[01:47] <Doow> bayziders: at least some of those are available through the command ifconfig
[01:47] <assasukasse> another question, i need skype for winzoze to run on ubuntu, with the webcam support, has someone ever got it run?
[01:47] <Jordan_U> assasukasse: So you want a wireless monitor other than network-manager?
[01:47] <steel_lady> stefg, I don't understand you, I have the last version of ubuntu, i thought it is dapper?
[01:47] <steel_lady> stefg, what is edgy?
[01:47] <bayziders> Doow : I need all of them to connect my xbox to my modem
[01:47] <assasukasse> yes Jordan_U
[01:47] <stefg> steel_lady: 6.10 is edgy, 6.06.1 lTS is dapper
[01:48] <Jordan_U> assasukasse: wifi-radar
[01:48] <stefg> !version | steel_lady
[01:48] <ubotu> steel_lady: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[01:48] <assasukasse> Jordan_U i have wifi radar, but no much strenght signal gauge..not at all
[01:48] <steel_lady> stefg ok I installed 6.06 and updated it to 6.10
[01:49] <LucianSolaris> Hey, anyone familiar with why ndiswrapper and a broadcom wireless card keeps switchin between eth0 and wlan0 everytime the system is started up and how to stop it?
[01:49] <steel_lady> stefg, i have edgy
[01:49] <NET||abuse> assasukasse, are you havin the same issue as me? i'm on bcm43xx drivers, they don't support signal strength metering
[01:49] <stefg> steel_lady: that might be the problem... edgy upgrades left many people with broken systems
[01:49] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to use soundconverter to convert some oggs to mp3s.  However even though I can listen to all the audio on the mp3's the time data is wrong.  The mp3s say that they are shorter than the oggs even though they have all the audio.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:50] <bayziders> Doow: Do you know how to find them all?
[01:50] <steel_lady> stefg, what should I do? I can not reinstall system again! no way!!!
[01:50] <Doow> bayziders: sorry, not dns nor default gateway =(
[01:51] <stefg> steel_lady: but i don't want to speculate... actually i've no clue, what your trouble is, unless i have hands-on access to your machine
[01:51] <steel_lady> stefg, you think my problems mught be connected?
[01:51] <Doow> bayziders: I think everything should be somewhere under /proc though ^^
[01:51] <assasukasse> NET no i am on intel
[01:51] <BigMac> ikonia:  Do you remember me ?
[01:51] <assasukasse> Jordan_U do u know if kismeth works good?
[01:52] <Jordan_U> assasukasse: No, idea
[01:52] <Jordan_U> assasukasse: As sombody said earlier, it may be a driver problem rather than an application problem
[01:53] <bayziders> Ok well all i got from ifconfig was my ip and subnet mask where is the rest, here i will paste the read out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1380/
[01:53] <stefg> steel_lady: but a quick test would be to add a new user for testing purposes nd see, if this test-user (with all fresh configurations in his home-dir) has teh same issues
[01:53] <pollywog> should I use a 64 bit or 128 bit encryption key with WEP?  128 bit worked for me with Linspire
[01:53] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: What problem are you having?
[01:54] <Doow> bayziders: HWaddr is your mac address, dunno about the others
[01:54] <Jordan_U> pollywog: neither is very secure, but 128 is more so
[01:55] <pollywog> but does Ubuntu's wireless assistant suppor that?
[01:55] <pollywog> because I tried both and neither works
[01:55] <Jordan_U> pollywog: If your drivers do, yes
[01:55] <pollywog> 128 worked under Linspire with this same hardware
[01:55] <steel_lady> stefg, add user where?
[01:56] <stefg> steel_lady: ehe
[01:56] <Jordan_U> pollywog: Have you tried network-manager-gnome?
[01:56] <steel_lady> Jordan_U I have 2 problems: smeared display and some pages with java do not display, others do
[01:56] <stefg> steel_lady: there's a gui for it, but just run 'sudo adduser' from the terminal
[01:56] <pollywog> Jordan is that apt-gettable?
[01:56] <I-kido> stefg, i'll get some aspirine and coffe for u
[01:57] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Did you install the sun JVM and update alternatives?
[01:57] <Tycho451> Hi guys
[01:57] <steel_lady> stefg I had enough, I already lost 2 weeks trying to fix my system, my boss is angry with me because I am not working, I am tired of reading manuals
[01:57] <specialbuddy> how do I get kdm to work again?
[01:57] <user01> hakrzcode: hmm it is still not letting me open files i see them  in gnome but it wont let me open
[01:57] <stefg> I-kido: thanks a lot... :-) but it's 2:00 am now, and i'm drunk enough to go to bed soon :-)
[01:57] <NET||abuse> back again,,, on wifi now,, yay
[01:57] <I-kido> loll
[01:58] <pollywog> steel_lady you could always try Linspire
[01:58] <I-kido> stefg NL?
[01:58] <un_operateur> specialbuddy, remove the other DMs and   sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm -plow
[01:58] <pollywog> if you can't get this to work
[01:58] <steel_lady> Jordan_U I do not know what is JVM I installed java runtime 5
[01:58] <stefg> I-kido: DE
[01:58] <dm> Is there any photoviewer to scroll through a select few pics and cycle through them on your desktop?
[01:58] <I-kido> cool
[01:58] <lakin> I'm trying to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy and get "can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk"  ...  Some googling revealed: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/67999 which instructs the installation of python-vte , but I've already got that installed !?
[01:58] <_caid_> to nobody special: thank you for writing the instructions on how to install ubuntu from windows
[01:58] <steel_lady> what is Linspire?
[01:58] <pollywog> it is a newbie friendly Linux
[01:58] <I-kido> Linspire is a windhoze clone
[01:58] <NET||abuse> ok, next... will youtube work in firefox??
[01:59] <pollywog> it is not a windows clone
[01:59] <steel_lady> I can not reinstall the systrem again!!!
[01:59] <pollywog> it is a Linux for Windows users
[01:59] <steel_lady> I installed so many things here
[01:59] <pollywog> k
[01:59] <NET||abuse> !flash
[01:59] <ys76> get yourself?
[01:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:59] <I-kido> pollywog, that's what i meant, :p
[01:59] <steel_lady> the problem is not in that I at to support all the components etcm new bu
[01:59] <stefg> steel_lady: actually a new install takes 30 minutes... but
[02:00] <Enverex> Does anyone know why "Quit" in Gnome now just logs me out rather than giving me the selection of what to do?
[02:00] <javaprog> Any1 knows the password to mysql after a fresh install ?
[02:00] <assasukasse> Jordan_U it can be, i posted an info on kismet forum, usually they know all those tricks and problems
[02:01] <stefg> steel_lady: it's just that my /personal/ experience with edgy wasn't too god, so i tend to make sceptical comments about it
[02:01] <steel_lady> stefg it is not difficult to install the system but I am already working in apache mysql and I installed million other things
[02:01] <Doow> javaprog: nope, but I do remember that it's somewhere in the documentation at the mysql site ( very good documentation at that )
[02:01] <un_operateur> javaprog, the install scripts should have prompted you for the password
[02:01] <steel_lady> how to find my old questions I posted in ubuntu forums? on other forums I see it when I click on my name but not here
[02:01] <stefg> steel_lady: i understand.... but if you are in a commercial environment you  might consider !support
[02:02] <stefg> !support
[02:02] <ubotu> For your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[02:02] <pollywog> does this network manager for Gnome also do WPA?
[02:02] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: What is the output of: update-java-alternatives -l
[02:02] <pollywog> if I install wpa supplicant?
[02:02] <steel_lady> !support
[02:02] <javaprog> ok mabe i did not noticed i try install again, thx
[02:02] <capiira> hmm anyone know a trusty source for openoffice 2.1?
[02:02] <I-kido> Enverex, I had that problem once I had accidently uninstalled gnome session, gnome poewermanager
[02:02] <steel_lady> java-1.5.0-sun 53 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun
[02:02] <steel_lady> java-gcj 1041 /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj
[02:03] <un_operateur> javaprog, i think all you need is to  -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure  mysql-server -plow
[02:03] <pollywog> oh that reminds me I need to see if Ubuntu has java-package
[02:03] <dm> Is there any photoviewer to scroll through a select few pics and cycle through them on your desktop?
[02:04] <un_operateur> dm, you mean a wallpaper manager?
[02:04] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: run:   sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun
[02:04] <pollywog> f-spot perhaps, I don't recall whether it does slideshows
[02:04] <dm> un_operateur not really, i want some small frame on my desktop to do a slideshow of some pictures i select
[02:04] <Jordan_U> steel_lady:  see if that fixes your java problems
[02:04] <adub> dsniff: nids_init:   <---- i get that when i type          dsniff ath0  ??
[02:04] <steel_lady> I did
[02:04] <Pie-rate> My sound isn't working, it worked before but its broken now.
[02:04] <adub> please help someone
[02:04] <BigMac> Hey I was looking at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide which should help me get ubuntu running right because I was getting an error Mp BIOS 8540 on startup then a screen blank
[02:05] <BigMac> but how do I acsess the terminal from the start screen on the live cd
[02:05] <Falstius> why does the volume control in gnome insist on using the OSS mixer, or how can I get it to use ESD (or even ALSA)?
[02:05] <steel_lady> Jordan_U it did not
[02:05] <un_operateur> dm, errm, i've never come across something like that -- but maybe one of the adesklet/gdesklet applets can do something like it
[02:05] <dm> Anyone know of an APP that will allow me to have a frame on my desktop do a slideshow of pics i select
[02:06] <_caid_> How do I get WPA-PSK working? Can't find anything about it in the Networking dialog.
[02:06] <steel_lady> Jordan_U, you have any ideas for my smeared display?
[02:06] <Dave-Ubuntu> hello! who ready for a really dumb noob question ?
[02:06] <dm> un_operateur checked that, the gdesklet one sucks bad... havent done adesklet
[02:06] <un_operateur> !ask | Dave-Ubuntu
[02:06] <ubotu> Dave-Ubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:06] <Jordan_U> !sound | Falstius
[02:06] <ubotu> Falstius: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:06] <Dave-Ubuntu> cheers un_operateur
[02:06] <pollywog> network-manager-gnome is an applet
[02:06] <pollywog> won't work unless I reboot to gnome
[02:07] <jrib> dm: feh can display slideshows
[02:07] <dm> jrib feh?
[02:07] <jrib> !feh | dm
[02:07] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: In what way smeared, generally blurry or like sombody smeared one part of it?
[02:07] <ubotu> feh: imlib2 based image viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.4-2 (edgy), package size 272 kB, installed size 528 kB
[02:07] <wilee85> does anyone know of a program that supports Voip in linux -- preferably one that can do it with MSN messenger?
[02:07] <Silver_Seagull> So, I got 6.06 installed and ATi drivers running like silk.  Then I decided (a little while later, after many restarts) to upgrade to 6.10.  BIG mistake.  This is what I get on boot: http://filelabs.net/my.php?file=boot_hangHbc6.jpg  help!
[02:07] <Pie-rate> My sound isn't working, it worked before but its broken now. I don't even know where to start in debugging it, i screwed with system->prefs->sound, ran test with every possible sound driver, and OSS made a short staticy blip, none of the others made any noise
[02:07] <un_operateur> jrib, he's after something that displays pictures on the desktop
[02:07] <stefg> !sound < Pie-rate
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound < Pie-rate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <dm> !feh
[02:08] <ubotu> feh: imlib2 based image viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.4-2 (edgy), package size 272 kB, installed size 528 kB
[02:08] <wilee85> !voip
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about voip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <stefg> !sound > Pie-rate
[02:08] <jrib> dm: you can probably work something out to get it on the desktop.  With devilspie maybe
[02:08] <steel_lady> Jordan_U, the whole display looks like it lacks of contrast, not only letters but everything. like jpg saved in low resolution
[02:08] <n33o> ok.. so mouse isnt working in ubuntu
[02:08] <n33o> ???
[02:08] <dm> jrib lol not that interested in doing it, just curious if anyone knew a good ap
[02:08] <n33o> re-loaded config of xorg
[02:09] <Amadeo> How do people generally go about installing the newest Nvidia drivers, rather than 88.76?
[02:09] <wilee85> Silver_Seagull, did you have SSH server installed?
[02:09] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: What graphics card?
[02:09] <Dave-Ubuntu> ok - i bit the bullet and installed ubuntu onto my abit be6ii system - installled fine - found the sound card, nvisia card etc etc - but its ignored the HPT370 drives and second drive - i can see it in Device manager - and seem to be recognised properly there - but the "desktop" and filebrowser doesnt recognise it... baring in mind i'm a noob so dont laugh!
[02:09] <n33o> its running in 800x600 now
[02:09] <steel_lady> ATI radeon I think
[02:09] <un_operateur> !nvidia
[02:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:09] <n33o> but still each time i try to configure mouse it freaks out and i have to conf xorg again
[02:09] <n33o> using old trio v 64
[02:09] <steel_lady> How to check which graphic card I have?
[02:09] <n33o> and its a serial mouse
[02:09] <jrib> steel_lady: lspci
[02:09] <Tycho451> I have some trouble with 2 Problems. Wiki, FAQ and Forum hasn't brought up anything useful...
[02:09] <stefg> Amadeo: you need build-essential, the *.run package from nvidia and some clue
[02:09] <Dave-Ubuntu> hey I installed the nvisia drivers ok using automatix :P
[02:10] <Tycho451> (I'm a linux noob and use XUbuntu) First: I can't get OpenGL to work on my Radeon 9800 Pro (I tried different Guides, so I'm not sure what different stuff I apt-get (I didn't touch the kernel tough)
[02:10] <un_operateur> Dave-Ubuntu, does this command list the drives --  fdisk -l
[02:10] <Tycho451> And Second: my sound card is listed as card1 and the onboard device I can't deactivate is card0 (I tried stuff with /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base which din't work)
[02:10] <erisco> I have an alias for Apache on my Desktop, so that I can easily work with my server on my desktop. However files I create are not under the group of www-data for reading and writing, or do they allow others to read the files! It is extremely to open the terminal every time, type out a chmod command, and then a chown command, just to fix this one problem
[02:10] <Silver_Seagull> wilee85: Nope- vanilla, out-of-the-box except for the ATi drivers and their associated package conversion tools.  This EXACT same thing happens when I try to use the LiveCD
[02:10] <n33o> anyone?
[02:10] <n33o> mouse problemmm??
[02:10] <Amadeo> stef: "and some clue"?
[02:10] <erisco> is there a way that I can set default permissions for a directory? Or something?
[02:10] <n33o> which line must i edit in xorg
[02:10] <wilee85> Silver_Seagull, how did you install if the live cd didn't work?
[02:10] <Dave-Ubuntu> nope back to command prompt - no out put!
[02:10] <n33o> need to change mouse to.. dev/ttyS0
[02:11] <wilee85> Silver_Seagull, did you use open source drivers, or proprietary drivers?
[02:11] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Look at your hardware in System -> Administration -> devices
[02:11] <Jordan_U> * device manager
[02:11] <Falstius> Jordan_U: most of that information is for hoary, and only OSS is available from the gnome mixer (when I'd like ALSA or ESD to be there).
[02:11] <Vluid> Tycho451: the second one ive solved by unloding the module
[02:11] <steel_lady> Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[02:11] <Tycho451> Vluid: how can I do that?
[02:11] <user01> hakrzcode: i mounted my smb server and vlc still wont read it
[02:12] <ciscosurfer> Hello everyone!
[02:12] <bruenig> !hi | ciscosurfer
[02:12] <ubotu> ciscosurfer: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:12] <un_operateur> Dave-Ubuntu, address me so i know you have replied or your posts will get lost in this busy channel :)
[02:12] <Pie-rate> My sound isn't working, it worked before but its broken now. I don't even know where to start in debugging it, i screwed with system->prefs->sound, ran test with every possible sound driver, and OSS made a short staticy blip, none of the others made any noise
[02:13] <user01> hakrzcode: oh wait...2 min later it loaded it . . .a simple mp3 file
[02:13] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur: i get no output with fdisk -l
[02:13] <un_operateur> Dave-Ubuntu, errm, try  -- sudo fdisk -l
[02:13] <jrib> erisco: You can set default permissions for a directory with acl's maybe.  I've never actually tried them in practice
[02:13] <dakira> is anyone here good at package building?
[02:14] <Vluid> Tycho451: sudo rmmod <name of driver/module>
[02:14] <stefg> !motu
[02:14] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:14] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur: i get "invalid option -l"
[02:14] <jrib> !ask | dakira
[02:14] <ubotu> dakira: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:14] <stefg> !motu < dakira
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about motu < dakira - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <bruenig> !motu
[02:14] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:14] <stefg> !motu |# dakira
[02:14] <ubotu> # dakira: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:14] <dakira> well.. I've got problems with pbuilder and don't know what went wrong.. never happened before
[02:15] <un_operateur> erisco, what you could do is put your user in the apache user group (www-data i think) so that your user can read/write to those files
[02:15] <dakira> I thought maybe someone could habe a look at the output and might now whats wrong
[02:15] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: install 915resolution ( sudo apt-get install 915resolution )
[02:15] <un_operateur> Dave-Ubuntu, hmm maybe this -- sudo sh -c "fdisk -l"
[02:15] <erisco> un_operateur, but that doesn't solve anything because by default the files are under my username, not www-data
[02:15] <jrib> erisco: here's my bookmark on them: http://wiki.kaspersandberg.com/doku.php?id=howtos:acl
[02:16] <Silver_Seagull> wilee85: sorry- went to get a drink.  I used the ATi proprietary drivers, but restarted several times iwth no ill effects
[02:16] <steel_lady> Jordan_U: in process
[02:16] <erisco> jrib, I will take a look :)
[02:16] <Vluid> Tycho451: and lsmod shows you what modules are loaded
[02:16] <un_operateur> erisco, which user creates those files by default? your user or www-data
[02:16] <un_operateur> ?
[02:16] <erisco> un_operateur, I do...
[02:16] <steel_lady> Jordan_U should I restart nor or what?
[02:16] <Tycho451> Vluid:Ahh...thanks
[02:16] <dakira> ubotu: i know.. I know all the guides, too.. I just have a weird problem thought someone here might know what is wrong
[02:16] <Silver_Seagull> wilee85: However, I installed 6.06 from the alternative CD.  For 6.06 Ubuntu kept trying to set my monitor to 145Hz refresh, and I had to fix the xorg.conf by hand once it crashed out.
[02:16] <un_operateur> erisco, so, what you are trying to do is get apache to read those files?
[02:16] <Pie-rate> My sound doesn't work. It worked before.  But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:16] <I-kido> !ubotu
[02:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:16] <eimajenthat> Got an APT question. I'm thinking about installing kubuntu-desktop, so I can see how the other half lives, but if I don't like it, is there an easy way to remove all those packages?
[02:17] <jrib> dakira: just pastebin the post, if someone can help they will try.  You can also try #ubuntu-motu
[02:17] <wilee85> Silver_Seagull, you should try the open source drivers. I've had nothing but problems with the ones from ATI when I was using my radeon 9550
[02:17] <jrib> dakira: s/post/error output
[02:17] <erisco> un_operateur, apache can read them just fine
[02:17] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur: ok - i got output! my error - i get lots of /dev/** stuff - all sizes seem correct for the drives (even recognises the raided drive as 80gb (well 78gb) )
[02:17] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: I have never used this program before, try just restarting the GUI ( x ) by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:17] <Vluid> Tycho451: then i made a script which unloads the unwanted modules at startup
[02:17] <dakira> the interesting part is where it tries to do the make install: http://pastebin.ca/314767
[02:17] <erisco> un_operateur, however the file permissions say no one but me can do anything with the files, so a 403 error is brought up
[02:17] <Silver_Seagull> wilee85: It's not the drivers- they worked fine.  It is a problem with 6.10 that is stalling my rig
[02:17] <Ben_FP> hi everyone, any news on the suport of ATI Radeon X1950 pro video card for Ubuntu??
[02:17] <Pie-rate> ubotu: I am ubotu, annoying piece of crap that's spammed way too much and almost never has useful information
[02:17] <jinx099> eimajenthat: You can select which WM you run, so you dont need to uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[02:17] <tritium> Silver_Seagull: did you use the ubuntu packages of the fglrx drivers?
[02:17] <wilee85> Silver_Seagull, then go back to dapper and cross your fingers for feisty
[02:17] <Silver_Seagull> wilee85: the open source drivers that are used on the 6.10 LiveCD give me the same pattern of corruption on my screen
[02:18] <erisco> un_operateur, additionally the files absolutely must be under the group of www-data
[02:18] <dakira> jrib: nice.. I didn't know about that channel.. I'll head over there
[02:18] <wilee85> your video card might also have an error. slight chance, but a possibility
[02:18] <Tycho451> Vluid: Can't I keep it from loading in the first playe?
[02:18] <un_operateur> erisco, you can set a umask for that directory so that files created there have a set permission
[02:18] <Pie-rate> My sound doesn't work. It worked before. I followed the directions for debugging in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting it isn't muted, i can get it to make a little blip with sys->prefs->sound->select OSS->test. otherwise complete silence.
[02:18] <eimajenthat> jinx099: but I like my system lean, if I'm not using all those packages, I don't want them installed
[02:18] <erisco> un_operateur, any idea how to do that?
[02:18] <Silver_Seagull> tritium: Yes, but once again, this is not a driver thing.  The drivers were fine. It is 6.10 that is doing this.  LiveCD, my install (after it asked me to restart)
[02:19] <eimajenthat> I'm looking for a way to set a sort of "APT restore point"
[02:19] <tritium> Silver_Seagull: that's rather vague
[02:19] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Did it work?
[02:19] <Silver_Seagull> tritium: Well http://filelabs.net/my.php?file=boot_hangHbc6.jpg <- that is all I get.  There are no errors or failures in a verbose boot either.
[02:19] <steel_lady> Jordan_U: I am shocked
[02:20] <Silver_Seagull> tritium: That is also what happens with the 6.10 LiveCD
[02:20] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Is that a yes?
[02:20] <steel_lady> I have to sit half a meter closer
[02:20] <Jordan_U> :)
[02:20] <Vluid> Tycho451: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist <- there you can insert the unwanted modules
[02:20] <Ben_FP> does the liveCD 6.10 supporte ATI Radeon X1950 pro and X-Fi fatal!ty sound blaster card?
[02:21] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur: ok - i got output! my error - i get lots of /dev/** stuff
[02:21] <Tycho451> Vluid: thx, I added it...do I have to restart?
[02:21] <Vluid> Tycho451: then they wont be loaded at all
[02:21] <steel_lady> Jordan_U: It worked although I must admit that in win my display was much nicer. I suppose this is the best I can see in ubuntu
[02:22] <tritium> steel_lady: that should not be the case.  Display quality should be identical.
[02:22] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: You should be able to get the exact same resolution in linux as you get in windows
[02:22] <erUSUL> Ben_FP: the x-fi is not supported in linux afaik
[02:22] <Pie-rate> My sound doesn't work. It WORKED BEFORE, and I can't figure out what could have broken. I followed the directions for debugging in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting it isn't muted, i can get it to make a little blip with sys->prefs->sound->select OSS->test. otherwise complete silence.
[02:22] <tritium> Pie-rate: before what point?
[02:22] <Vluid> Tycho451: yes
[02:22] <mince> I can't find mail program in my Ubuntu 6.10. How can I install it? I don't mean mail client, just the program "mail"
[02:22] <steel_lady> for example in your names, the letter m if it is bold or colored, is just 1 square
[02:22] <un_operateur> erisco, i was going to say - man umask  but a manpage for it doesnt seem to exist (on my system) -- so http://www.ncl.ac.uk/iss/unix/unixhelp/umask.html
[02:22] <Ben_FP> erUSUL do you know if people are going to make a driver available for linux?
[02:23] <mince> apt-get install mail doesn't work..
[02:23] <I-kido> !evolution | mince
[02:23] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 5022 kB, installed size 38204 kB
[02:23] <un_operateur> Dave-Ubuntu, can you !pastebin the output of that command please?
[02:23] <mag_> Hey... can you help me with samba ? I have question or maybe a problem. well I have a long tree of folders. I had many groups of users, the problem is when the users look the folders... they look all the shared folders. they can't to see the arquitecture of a folders.. can you help me !... this is a example of sub directory that I have in smb.conf ::::: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1384/
[02:23] <tritium> mince: that's because there is no package "mail"
[02:23] <Pie-rate> tritium: I'm not sure. it worked recently, i was playing a dvd just yesterday
[02:23] <Moose> Could anyone here walk me through complete installation of a mail server? As in getting it set up and working for relaying...
[02:23] <erUSUL> Ben_FP: i cann not tell, creative is not know for being open source friendly
[02:23] <Ben_FP> aw crap!
[02:23] <tritium> easy there, Ben_FP
[02:23] <n33o> Ok .. reaally need help with mouse problem.
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> !pasteibin dave@dave-desktop:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>2 bytes
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2434 cylinders
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> /dev/hda1   *           1        2330    18715693+  83  Linux
[02:24] <mince> I-kido: I have "evolution" package already installed..
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> /dev/hda2            2331        2434      835380    5  Extended
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> /dev/hda5            2331        2434      835348+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[02:24] <jrib> !paste | Dave-Ubuntu
[02:24] <ubotu> Dave-Ubuntu: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> Disk /dev/hdb: 40.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>0 bytes
[02:24] <GuerrillaWon> hmm is there an easy way to see packages that didn't install correctly?
[02:24] <Pie-rate> !paste
[02:24] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:24] <Pie-rate> christ.
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> /dev/hdb1   *           1        4865    39078081    7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> Disk /dev/hde: 40.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>0 bytes
[02:24] <n33o> what do i need to change im xorg settings to get mouse working .. it is a serial mouse
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders
[02:24] <un_operateur> Dave-Ubuntu, stop
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[02:24] <steel_lady> also in all curved parts of letters there are grey pixels around black letters
[02:24] <I-kido> mince, menu - internet
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> /dev/hde1               1        9731    78164226   42  SFS
[02:24] <Silver_Seagull> tritium: So, any ideas then on how to diagnose further?  I cannot ctrl+alt+f1 or ctrl+alt+bksp   out of the loading screen.
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> Disk /dev/hdf: 40.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>0 bytes
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 77545 cylinders
[02:24] <mag_> Hey... can you help me with samba ? I have question or maybe a problem. well I have a long tree of folders. I had many groups of users, the problem is when the users look the folders... they look all the shared folders. they can't to see the arquitecture of a folders.. can you help me !... this is a example of sub directory that I have in smb.conf ::::: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1384/
[02:24] <erUSUL> Dave-Ubuntu: stop flooding the channel
[02:24] <Tycho451> Vluid: Hmm...shouldn't lsmod display a fglrx module as well?
[02:24] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: What kind of display do you have?
[02:24] <mince> I-kido: just I want to use mail program from terminal!!!
[02:24] <Moose> Could anyone here walk me through complete installation of a mail server? As in getting it set up and working for relaying...
[02:24] <n33o> can anyone help with mouse problem?
[02:25] <steel_lady> I have LCD 15 inch panoramic screen
[02:25] <un_operateur> !paste | Dave-Ubuntu
[02:25] <ubotu> Dave-Ubuntu: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[02:25] <Pie-rate> tritium: any ideas about how to get sound working?
[02:25] <Vluid> Tycho451: dont get qour question?
[02:25] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Go into System -> Preferences -> Font
[02:25] <Vluid> Tycho451: dont get your question
[02:25] <LordUltimaDavid> ok i am having dvd burning problems, can someone help me or direct me to help(guide,wiki,forum)
[02:25] <steel_lady> ok and?
[02:25] <mag_> Hey... can you help me with samba ? I have question or maybe a problem. well I have a long tree of folders. I had many groups of users, the problem is when the users look the folders... they look all the shared folders. they can't to see the arquitecture of a folders.. can you help me !... this is a example of sub directory that I have in smb.conf ::::: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1384/
[02:25] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: choose subpixel smoothing
[02:25] <LordUltimaDavid> i already search myself, to no avail
[02:26] <tritium> Dave-Ubuntu: please don't paste next time
[02:26] <Dave-Ubuntu> sorry - I know now! my bad -
[02:26] <n33o> ubotu: fix mouse
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix mouse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <Biame> !pastebin
[02:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:26] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1386/
[02:26] <n33o> ubotu: mouse
[02:26] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[02:26] <steel_lady> ok
[02:26] <Tycho451> Vluid: I have a Radeon 9800 Pro and OpenGL isn't working. I haven't modified the kernel and thus (from my little understanding of linux) a module with the fglrx (ati binary driver) should be present, right?
[02:26] <tritium> Pie-rate: I haven't seen much of your problem, really.
[02:26] <steel_lady> should I do ctrl alt backspace again or what?
[02:27] <Donald> Hi folks
[02:27] <Moose> Could anyone here walk me through complete installation of a mail server? As in getting it set up and working for relaying...
[02:27] <LordUltimaDavid> hello
[02:27] <un_operateur> mag_, which share when viewed shows all other shares?? give us an example
[02:27] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: If that doesn't look better try the other font rendering options
[02:27] <I-kido> !elmo
[02:27] <ubotu> elmo: text-based mail-reader supporting SMTP and POP3. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-1.1 (edgy), package size 178 kB, installed size 516 kB
[02:28] <Pie-rate> My sound doesn't work. It WORKED BEFORE, I don't know what changed. I followed the directions for debugging in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting it isn't muted, i can get it to make a little blip with sys->prefs->sound->select OSS->test. otherwise complete silence.
[02:28] <Vluid> Tycho451: i do not have a radeon card... there is perhaps a way to install the original ati driver.
[02:28] <tritium> Pie-rate: please don't repeat too often.
[02:28] <Moose> Anyone? any ideas?
[02:29] <erUSUL> Moose: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[02:29] <Pie-rate> tritium: its been ages, i have gaim fullscreen at 1920x1200 and its about 3 screens up
[02:29] <steel_lady> Jordan_U: in subpixel smoothing there are 4 options under details that I do not understand. should effect be immediate or I need to refresh something?
[02:29] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur:  my output from sudo fdisk -l http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1386/
[02:29] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: it should be imediate
[02:29] <tritium> Pie-rate: if that's your definition of ages, please wait a few more ages between posts
[02:29] <Pie-rate> tritium: and i NEED to figure out how to fix this
[02:29] <LordUltimaDavid> !dvd
[02:29] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:29] <steel_lady> Jordan_U: shubpixel order, what is that?
[02:30] <LordUltimaDavid> !dvd-r
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd-r - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <bayziders> If I have a program all coded in python how do i turn it into a like executable program? I think compile is the word.
[02:30] <wilee85> I just added a hard drive to my ubuntu server...how do I mount it permanently?
[02:30] <un_operateur> Dave-Ubuntu, errm, ok -- one drive seems to be detected but has a bad partition table /dev/hdf -- another /dev/hde contains an SFS partition which i am not sure can be read from linux -- so thats two drives that are accounted for
[02:30] <Tycho451> Vluid: I tried the binary from ati.com first, but I read the apt-get one would work better...anyway. Thanks for the help. I'll try rebooting as soon as I'm sure I disabled all modules from the wrong soundcard
[02:30] <erUSUL> bayziders: python is a interpreted language, no compilation
[02:30] <I-kido> !gnomebaker
[02:30] <jrib> bayziders: just run:  python file.py
[02:30] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 991 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[02:30] <Vluid> Tycho451: wait a moment ill send you some links
[02:31] <LordUltimaDavid> ok i am having dvd burning problems, can someone help me or direct me to help(guide,wiki,forum)
[02:31] <erisco> un_operateur, the umask thing did not work whatsoever
[02:31] <un_operateur> bayziders, chmod +x /path/to/file
[02:31] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur: the hde and hdf *were* part of a RAID0 in windows - two 40Gb joined to make 80gb
[02:31] <bayziders> jrib : and it will work on any computer like say i gave it to my freind all he has to do is click the program icon and boom it runs?
[02:31] <erisco> un_operateur, files are still created with the wrong permissions
[02:31] <I-kido> !graveman
[02:31] <ubotu> graveman: graphical tool to burn dvd and cd, gtk based. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.12-5-1 (edgy), package size 692 kB, installed size 2432 kB
[02:31] <StraightShootin1> is anyone in here familiar with how the trash system works?
[02:31] <bayziders> ok i got it all i have to do is change permisions?
[02:31] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: It is the order of the red green and blue pixels on the screen that make up one color pixel, it has to do with antiailiasing, basically just choose the one that looks best
[02:31] <jrib> bayziders: if he has the libraries and you wrote it correctly :P
[02:31] <erUSUL> bayziders: add this line as the first one of the script '#!/usr/bin/env python' and make it executable, then move it to somewhere in your path
[02:31] <un_operateur> erisco, one sec
[02:32] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur: it was purely data in NTFS - be nice if i could mount it somehow and then read the data - but no biggy
[02:32] <StraightShootin1> !trash