[09:16] <KarlosII> btw http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=373003&page=4 this is kinda what is happening
[09:16] <[BFG] > if you can't see the folder be sure you click on view < show hidden files
[09:17] <jerryrighter> [BFG]  i did the ctrl h and still didnt see it
[09:17] <electric_penguin> jerr: prog is called gnome-art, maybe install it from synaptic
[09:17] <scipio> jerryrighter: isn't in system-admin-login window? "local" tab-choose gnome
[09:17] <KarlosII> is it just me or are the ubuntuforums really laggy sometimes?
[09:17] <jerryrighter> no scipio and electric_penguin i will try that
[09:18] <KarlosII> [BFG] : thats no where near ethe issue I can blindly log into ubuntu even though the screen is black
[09:18] <electric_penguin> its in synaptic, try also running gnome-art from terminal, maybe its alreadi installed
[09:18] <[BFG] > lol i was talking to jerry
[09:19] <jerryrighter> electric_penguin it wasnt installed but is now =D
[09:19] <KarlosII> [BFG] : Iw as talking about the link u posted
[09:19] <electric_penguin> will it help ya jerr?
[09:19] <KarlosII> oh I see
[09:20] <jerryrighter> yep thnks electric_penguin and [BFG]
[09:22] <jerryrighter> thanks electric_penguin and [BFG]  i got it now
[09:22] <KarlosII> brb
[09:22] <T-Connect> Which cards are better to use on Ubuntu? Ati or Nvidia?
[09:22] <LoneShadow> anyone running apache2 with php5 ?
[09:23] <LoneShadow> T-Connect: Nvidia was know to have good linux drivers
[09:23] <jerryrighter> T-connect im using intel i810 vid card and it runs fine even with beryl
[09:23] <LoneShadow> Recent Ati drivers might have improved, not sure
[09:24] <datim> hi there. my sata-drives and cdrom are real slow under feisty (kernel 2.6.20). anyone here can help me on with that?
[09:25] <dyskon> Is it possible to shotgun wifi connections?
[09:25] <electric_penguin> lone: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_lamp_for_newbies
[09:25] <wolferine> how can i block am IP, hosts.deny ?
[09:26] <electric_penguin> great site with many articles...
[09:26] <vlt> Hello. Afer an upgrade from Edgy to Feisty the system only boots to runlevel "unknown". I have to run `telinit 3` (sic!) to run all the daemons listed in /etc/rc3.d/ -- `telinit 2` leads to "unknown", too. apt-get dist-upgrade returns "0 ..., 0 ..., 0 ..., 0 ..." so everything should be in a proper state. Any idea which pkg to fix and how?
[09:26] <wolferine> or use the firewall?
[09:26] <wolferine> an*
[09:26] <geartrooper> my swap memory is gone
[09:26] <stuart87> predder, phayz: sorry, I was away, but the partition which is extended NTFS will not work in GRUB. I am getting Error 12: Invalid device requested
[09:27] <geartrooper> the links to fix my swap problem don't load.  can someone help me with this problem?
[09:28] <mosno> when i do pstree in gnome-terminal i get strange characters where the line-drawing characters should be. I'm using the default Monospace font on Feisty. How to fix this? My LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 (no LC_* envars set)
[09:30] <gcostello> mosno: try pstree -A
[09:30] <electric_penguin> mosno: what if you try 'use system fixed width font"
[09:30] <stephen185uk> hi
[09:30] <mosno> electric_penguin, i *am* using that, i was just telling you what Gnome's Fixed width font is set to
[09:31] <electric_penguin> gcostellos suggestion is neat....
[09:31] <mosno> gcostello, that is fine of course, i think my unicode fonts are shagged or something
[09:31] <TylerJGillies> mosno: shagged?
[09:32] <mosno> TylerJGillies, misconfigured? missing?
[09:32] <mosno> it's a fairly default Feisty install in that regard. I *am* using upstream NVIDIA driver, so maybe that's somehow related
[09:32] <mosno> one sec
[09:32] <mosno> i'll check
[09:32] <Parisi> hmm
[09:33] <nephish> hey there all, i installed bind9 and now my courier mail server isn't working. what do you think happened ?
[09:34] <pato> hi all, I cant get any sound out of my D620 laptop, volume is up but no sound in realplayer/rhythmbox or anything else - I'm a noob, any suggestions?
[09:35] <CDGTeam> hi
[09:35] <CDGTeam> can someone give me a hand?
[09:35] <jerryrighter> hey electric_penguin u know how to change the look of the term?
[09:36] <wolferine> nite
[09:36] <CDGTeam> I am trying to install bulgarian phonetic keybord layout in Ubuntu 7.04. How to do it?
[09:36] <Opencan> quick question - how do you call the taskbars in Ubuntu? (where applications, places and system menus placed)
[09:36] <evilofisho> Quick question, how do you enter text mode? I mean -ONLY- text mode.
[09:37] <sauvin> Under gnome, I've no idea. Under KDE, it's called the "kicker".
[09:37] <scipio> Opencan: panels?
[09:37] <sauvin> evilofisho, what do you mean by "only text mode"?
[09:37] <mosno> ok, now it's not garbling the characters with vesa or nvidia driver. i need to figure out a way to check the temperature of my whole system, including graphics card because i've noticed some other garblings in my gnome-terminal
[09:37] <osfameron> hi:  how do I install a kernel module like "michael_mic" or "aes_i586" ?
[09:37] <evilofisho> sauvin: Like in bash.. Just.. Fullscreen and no graphics at all.
[09:37] <scipio> pato: did you try the basic stuff like volume in alsa and the other stuff some of the guides suggest?
[09:38] <sauvin> Have you considered using a virtual console? Try CTRL-ALT-F1. Do a CTRL-ALT-F7 to return to X.
[09:38] <scipio> evilofisho: ctrl+alt+f1?
[09:38] <jerryrighter> anyone know how to change the theme of the term?
[09:38] <jtong> i'm having problem activating my raid after my box crashed
[09:38] <pato> scipio - yes, checked volume on the panel, and in the individual apps, it was working up until this morning, tried reboot also, I cant understand whats happened
[09:39] <nocturn> Hi all
[09:39] <osfameron> !kernel
[09:39] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:39] <evilofisho> scipio: Actually. . I mean like, shutting the X server off for a moment.
[09:39] <osfameron> !kernel-modules
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel-modules - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <geartrooper> my ram is overheating and I have no swap
[09:39] <nocturn> I'm looking for an app that can analyze mailheaders
[09:39] <Bjornalf> is there a linux app that can connect to my bank like Quicken? or can Quicken run under wine?
[09:39] <nocturn> just print out when it was received by what server
[09:39] <nocturn> Can do it manually too, but some breakdown would be nice
[09:40] <scipio> pato: ah weird. honestly no idea sorry. i won't ask you if you have the speakers pluged in :)
[09:40] <electric_penguin> jerr which term?
[09:40] <jtong> can someone help me recovering my RAID?
[09:40] <jerryrighter> electric_penguin the one u do all ur root and installs on
[09:40] <scipio> evilofisho: like sauvin said you can return to X with ctrl+alt+f7 from that
[09:41] <pato> hahaha thanks anyway - its a laptop, onboard speakers!
[09:41] <electric_penguin> gnome-terminal? has limited settings for changing look....
[09:41] <NovemberSky> anyone?
[09:41] <wea>
[09:41] <wea>
[09:41] <NovemberSky> a chinese? where are you form?
[09:41] <stuart87> I have an extended NTFS partition with XP on it, but it will not work in GRUB. I am getting Error 12: Invalid device requested
[09:41] <wea>
[09:41] <NovemberSky> wea:I an chinese too
[09:41] <jerryrighter> electric_penguin its aka command line
[09:42] <electric_penguin> jerr, just profile settings...
[09:42] <NovemberSky>
[09:42] <geartrooper> I am just plain pissed off
[09:42] <sauvin> !cn
[09:42] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[09:42] <evilofisho> scipio: Yeah but like, the driver I'm trying to install keeps insisting that X is running.
[09:42] <wea>
[09:42] <electric_penguin> jerr edit/proiles?
[09:42] <wolferine> !ch
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <jerryrighter> k thanks electric_penguin
[09:42] <wolferine> !cn
[09:42] <NovemberSky> ubotu: i c
[09:42] <wolferine> !jp
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp
[09:42] <Bjornalf> ok i have 2 (was 3) hard drives.. a 250gb and a 200gb.. what's the least wastefull way to partition them?
[09:42] <NovemberSky> English Please
[09:42] <TuTUX> that chinese
[09:42] <scipio> evilofisho: you mean restart X? ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:43] <TuTUX> but ya english plz
[09:43] <mp3guy> I'm getting a laptop sound with an Nvidia 8400M. Will I be able to connect my 1680x1050 LCD to it and use both the laptop screen and my LCD as one big desktop easily?
[09:43] <sauvin> You have 450GB of DASD and you're worried about not wasting any?
[09:43] <pato> scipio: I went to sound preferences and pressed test and its just started working. freaky! thanks!!
[09:43] <wolferine> whats the two letter contry code?
[09:43] <mp3guy> *soon not sound
[09:43] <pato> bye!!
[09:43] <NovemberSky> I am waitting for CDs 3 week
[09:43] <wea> UBUNTU
[09:43] <evilofisho> scipio: Well, I'll go try some things, thanks for the help, you too sauvin.
[09:44] <makt> some one have the time to help a new user to configure his wifi for a lap?????
[09:44] <wolferine> !wireless | makt
[09:44] <ubotu> makt: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:44] <Bjornalf> well if i put / and 2gb swap (have 2gb ram) on the 200 and make the 250 home isn't that gonna leave a whole lot of unused space on the 200? linux isn't that big like winbloat is
[09:44] <Opencan> !theme
[09:44] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:44] <TuTUX> wea, the adim will ban you if you go on typing chinese here
[09:44] <makt> yes
[09:44] <Phrozen_One> has there been any recent updates that could have disabled my sound functionality? (intel ICH6) does no longer work after a reboot
[09:44] <makt> i try every thing
[09:45] <electric_penguin> jerr did you install gnome-spashscreen-manager as well?
[09:45] <makt> i have a presario v3417LA with a broadcon wifi
[09:45] <makt> i need to activate but i do not know how
[09:45] <scipio> Bjornalf: you could put root and /home on the 200 and then just mount the 250 like another drive
[09:45] <jerryrighter> electric_penguin yes i did thnks for asking
[09:45] <makt> please help
[09:46] <Bjornalf> scipio: i was just thinking that
[09:46] <Argumentum_in_Ab> sarah
[09:46] <Bjornalf> how much space should i give root?
[09:46] <jerryrighter> hey electric_penguin can i pm u please if not its cool
[09:47] <decay> is there a way to clear the text in console?
[09:47] <Bjornalf> and if i'm going to store 800mb-3gb Tivo recordings on the 250gb drive should i make it XFS or JFS?
[09:47] <sauvin> decay, there is a 'clear' command.
[09:47] <Parisi> decay: "clear" ?
[09:47] <jerryrighter> decay hit these cntrl c
[09:48] <sauvin> Bjornalf, what's wrong with ext3?
[09:48] <electric_penguin> jerr sure
[09:48] <Parisi> Ah, cant wait for my 10mbit down line :0
[09:48] <hypodyne> gday all
[09:48] <Bjornalf> nothing just heard the other two were faster/better for large files
[09:48] <decay> "clear" it was. thanks guys (sauvin, Parisi, jerryrighter)
[09:49] <hypodyne> what can i use to download a rar file.. firefox keeps trying to open it
[09:49] <Parisi> decay Anytime.
[09:49] <Bjornalf> hypodyne: right click it and save it that way
[09:49] <LoneShadow> I am getting "Critical Error: Asterisk Manager connection failure" with freepbx 2.3.0rc1.0 and asterisk 1.4.11
[09:49] <OPTIMusprime1212> u welcome decay
[09:49] <LoneShadow> asterisk is running
[09:49] <hypodyne> cheers
[09:49] <jtong> hi, i have a disk set to type linux raid auto but somehow it changed to ext3 after a crash and i can no longer mount
[09:49] <LoneShadow> oops wrong window :D
[09:50] <Parisi> brb
[09:50] <jtong> if i use fdisk to change its type, is it going to mess up my data on that disk?
[09:50] <jeska> How do I get linuxthread support in Fiesty with glibc 2.5
[09:50] <Bjornalf> oh my wierdness with my partitioning continues.. when i try and make one big partition out of the 250gb drive it gives me a "Can't have the end before the start!" error
[09:50] <hypodyne> thanks again
[09:51] <davetarmac> Does anyone in here play World of Warcraft under WINE?
[09:51] <zelva> Good morning, am I in #ubujntu in server freenode?
[09:51] <zelva> sorry: #ubuntu
[09:51] <gcostello> zelva: yes
[09:52] <rockets> How can I get what im typing to show up ON TOP OF an image ive inserted in open office word processor
[09:52] <zelva> Is here a adminisrator of ubuntu.com or xubuntu.org, please
[09:52] <rockets> never mind
[09:52] <davetarmac> I'm just having some issues trying to log in to the game. It says 'Downloading', but doesn't seem to be doing much else and the window has turned shades of grey
[09:52] <OPTIMusprime1212> electric_penguin u get my pm?
[09:53] <nandemonai> davetarmac: I didn't have much trouble, that being said it runs like crap.
[09:53] <evilofisho> Uh.. I'm trying to install a driver but it keeps bitchin' about X server running. And when I shut it off.. It starts up again!
[09:53] <Bjornalf> davetarmac: err i think i remember having to download the patches and apply them manually.. i don't think the patcher works
[09:53] <nandemonai> davetarmac: there is a guide on the ubuntu forums, I'd suggest following that one.
[09:53] <osfameron> !modprobe
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <osfameron> ok, I've added some modules using:  $ sudo modprobe x
[09:54] <osfameron> how do I get the module to be modprobed automatically on reboot?
[09:54] <osfameron> in one of the files in /etc/modprobe.d/ ?
[09:55] <davetarmac> Bjornalf, nandemonai: I downloaded the patch last night in my Vista OS after I got the same thing in Ubuntu.
[09:55] <TylerJGillies> osfameron: /etc/modules
[09:55] <osfameron> TylerJGillies: cool, that looks easier.  (But it's also empty except fro the comment, so I wasn't sure :-)
[09:56] <davetarmac> Bjornalf: could the problem be that I didn't install it through WINE, but just running it from an older install before Ubuntu?
[09:56] <Bjornalf> davetarmac: check the guide nandemonai mentioned.. the patcher doesn't work right under wine/linux.. it'll work under windows with no problem
[09:57] <Bjornalf> davetarmac: honestly i don't know.. i used Cedega when i tried it and i know i had to apply the patches by hand
[09:57] <evilofisho> Uh.. I'm trying to install a driver but it keeps bitchin' about X server running. And when I shut it off.. It starts up again! Anyone?
[09:57] <CUBeR64> anything made for ubuntu works on xubuntu, kubuntu, etc?
[09:57] <davetarmac> Bjornalf: Ok, cheers - I'll look for that thread
[09:57] <underwatercow> Can someone help me? I think I'm installing the same way I always have, but for some reason no matter what I do, or how many times I install Ubuntu, it always boots to windows and I don't even see the GRUB boot loader...
[09:58] <afiestas> CUBeR64 you can have the ubuntu desktop in any ubuntu distributions getting the "ubuntu-desktop" packages from repositories
[09:58] <unhu> Does anyone know how I can get the slab menu? The version abailable on apt0get is unavailable.
[09:58] <unhu> *apt-get
[09:58] <CUBeR64> so if im running xubuntu, i will need that package in order to run things built for ubuntu?
[09:59] <afiestas> usually, the packages made for ubuntu have a dependencies, if you install it on your xubuntu, the dependencies will install at the same time (if you have a internet connection)
[09:59] <Bjornalf> CUBeR64: the only major difference between k/x/ubuntu is the desktop environment/window manager.. it's still all basically the same linux under it all
[10:00] <CUBeR64> kk thanks
[10:00] <TylerJGillies> LOL
[10:00] <CUBeR64> :)
[10:00] <TylerJGillies> apt-cache show cycle
[10:00] <TylerJGillies> good for you girlfriend
[10:01] <CUBeR64> my computer has an amd duron 850mhz and 256mb of ram, would it run faster under xubuntu, because currently using ubuntu, some things run rather laggy
[10:01] <Bjornalf> ok so what's a safe amount of space to give root?
[10:01] <scipio> underwatercow: install it, and then boot from the livecd and fix your grub. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=recover+grub
[10:02] <Bjornalf> CUBeR64: it should.. XFCE needs much less overhead than KDE or Gnome.. that said it also depends on what's laggy..
[10:02] <vlt> CUBeR64: Yes, you can install the package "xubuntu-desktop" and test it.
[10:02] <underwatercow> scipio: thanks, I'll try that :)
[10:03] <CUBeR64> you guys are great with support :)
[10:03] <davetarmac> Bjornalf: fixed it. OpenGL issues it would seem... thanks for the help
[10:03] <CUBeR64> and for whats laggy is mainly window dragging, minimizing, things of that nature
[10:03] <Jowi> Bjornalf, I would give root at least 6GB
[10:03] <stuart87> I have an extended NTFS partition with XP on it, but it will not work in GRUB. I am getting Error 12: Invalid device requested. Can someone please tell me how to change an extended (sda5) to a primary (sda3) in a tty?
[10:03] <Bjornalf> davetarmac: no problem
[10:03] <Bjornalf> Jowi: thanks :)
[10:03] <aivalli> hi folks
[10:04] <aivalli> I got a prob
[10:04] <aivalli> my ubuntu x64 box is reboot ing
[10:04] <Blauhaut> how to restart ubuntu all withour restarting computer ?
[10:04] <aivalli> I have this in the /var/log/messages
[10:04] <evilofisho> Uh.. I'm trying to install a driver but it keeps bitchin' about X server running. And when I shut it off.. It starts up again.. AM I DOING THIS RIGHT? :<
[10:04] <zuutu> hi
[10:04] <aivalli> please read http://pastebin.com/d161c9690
[10:04] <aivalli> any hints ? attn kernel gurus
[10:05] <zuutu> hello
[10:05] <zuutu> quit
[10:05] <Whiz2> during boot time, and before i login to my kde desktop, I'm trying to get a program to run with my credentials, so that i don't have to run it form the konsole every single time i boot, but i can't seem to get it to start... i've been trying to figure this out for months, and have had absolutely no luck
[10:05] <benqlk> local
[10:05] <Blauhaut> How to restartt ubuntu without restarting computer ?
[10:06] <big_bang14> can mplayer play wmv?
[10:07] <scipio> big_bang14: i think so. if not, vlc can
[10:08] <Whiz2> during boot time, and before i login to my kde desktop, I'm trying to get a program to run with my credentials, and my environment, so that i don't have to run it form the konsole every single time i boot, but i can't seem to get it to start... i've been trying to figure this out for months, and have had absolutely no luck. can someone please help me with this?
[10:09] <dspstv> ola, when trying to install ubuntu i get this error on my screen: Buffer i/o error on device fd0
[10:09] <CodemasterMM> fd0 is floppy, i believe
[10:09] <CodemasterMM> if that helps
[10:09] <Blauhaut> where can i find the default sources.list ?
[10:09] <dspstv> k
[10:09] <big_bang14> dspstv: "ola" is spelt hola
[10:09] <dspstv> CodemasterMM, but i think it takes it as my cdrom drive where the installer is
[10:09] <CodemasterMM> oh weird
[10:10] <dspstv> big_bang14, my mother tongue is spanish so i have the right to spell it as i like
[10:10] <CodemasterMM> haha
[10:10] <CodemasterMM> it's like if we say 'depo' instead of 'depot' :)
[10:10] <catherine> hi
[10:10] <dspstv> exactly
[10:10] <Bjornalf> no that's just being annoyed at the french ;)
[10:10] <Whiz2> no one can help me?
[10:11] <big_bang14> dspstv: bueno, yo estudio el espanol a mi collegio.
[10:11] <aivalli> anyone ?
[10:11] <jeska> How do I get linuxthread support in Fiesty with glibc 2.5
[10:11] <catherine> The memory stick driver doesn't work on my new vaio, what should I do ?
[10:11] <jeska> ;(
[10:11] <aivalli> http://pastebin.com/d161c9690 kernel error - please help
[10:11] <scipio> !easysource | Blauhaut
[10:11] <ubotu> Blauhaut: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:11] <dspstv> ahh nice big_bang14, just for the record and avoid going more OT, is colegio, not collegio
[10:12] <dspstv> CodemasterMM, is 260ram on a pentiumIII 600mhz enough or i do need more ram for feisty?
[10:12] <CodemasterMM> hm.
[10:12] <dyskon> Just run it in terminal mode, screw the ram ;-)
[10:12] <CodemasterMM> i think they said 256 was min, iirc.
[10:12] <CodemasterMM> but i would have to check
[10:13] <CodemasterMM> dspstv: worst case, you can try installing in text-only mode
[10:13] <Whiz2> i am about to throw mykubuntu PC out the window
[10:13] <big_bang14> dspstv: sorry, that was the english spelling, if i spell things wrong i usualy get things spelt the italian way like "quatro"
[10:13] <CodemasterMM> dspstv: I think you just hit 'ESC' at the menu screen
[10:13] <electric_penguin> anyone know how to configure italc?
[10:13] <CodemasterMM> or something
[10:14] <Whiz2> should I just give up?Is it just not possible?
[10:15] <kimmey2k3> Whats the problem?
[10:15] <CodemasterMM> Whiz2: im not sure about before the login screen appears, but i think there's a way you can add programs to boot on startup via the services option, but i haven't tried to do that in a while
[10:16] <dspstv> ok, tx all, right now seems is loading stuff from the cd, slow process, the little circles making rounds on a black screen
[10:16] <Whiz2> I'm trying to get vncserver to run with my credentials, and my environment before I login to my kde desktop so that I don't have to run the program from the konsole every time i boot
[10:16] <bigmb> question: is there a program like ares for ubuntu?
[10:17] <barata> guys, tell me .. what is the BEST music player?
[10:17] <YazzY> hi guys
[10:17] <Whiz2> it must not run as root at all, because if it does, it is useless to me
[10:17] <barata> audacious sucks ... it's time to shop around now
[10:17] <bigmb> is there a program like ares for ubuntu?
[10:17] <electric_penguin> bigmb:what about azareus?
[10:17] <shiznix`> ?
[10:17] <Bjornalf> bigmb: what's ares?
[10:17] <ThanatosDrive> Is anyone having trouble connecting to security.ubuntu.com?
[10:17] <electric_penguin> big: or amule
[10:18] <YazzY> is gutsy stable enough for upgrade? I actually need just newer version of Eclipse and i am being a lazy ass and dont want to install it "manually"
[10:18] <Whiz2> CodemasterMM: keep in mind, I'm running a dapper release
[10:18] <kimmey2k3> What about adding it to system -> preferences -> sessions -> and adding it to the startup list with necessary commands?
[10:18] <Whiz2> CodemasterMM: and I know absolutely nothing about the services options...
[10:18] <pepsi2> wow lot of people here
[10:18] <Whiz2> kimmey2k3: you've completely lost me
[10:18] <CodemasterMM> Whiz2: I don't know much about it either, sorry ^^
[10:18] <Whiz2> i know very little about this kinda thing
[10:18] <bigmb> electric_penguin: think I'll try amule...first atleast. Thanks :)
[10:19] <scipio> bigmb: a search on google shows apollon + gift-ares as solution. no experience with those though
[10:19] <stu111> I have an extended NTFS partition with XP on it, but it will not work in GRUB. I am getting Error 12: Invalid device requested. Can someone please tell me how to change an extended (sda5) to a primary (sda3) in a tty?
[10:19] <Bjornalf> scipio: hehe you missed him ;)
[10:20] <scipio> yeah. oh well
[10:20] <pepsi2> heh
[10:20] <jeska> Do you know how I can get linuxthread support in Fiesty with glibc 2.5. :<
[10:20] <ThanatosDrive> Fellows? I can't seem to connect to security.ubuntu.com. I've been waiting for headers for a very long time now. Is there any way to fix this"?
[10:21] <kimmey2k3> Whiz2: I dont understand you, or you dont know how to add? :P
[10:21] <Whiz2> exactly :-p
[10:21] <Bjornalf> ThanatosDrive: umm since it's not pingable i'd say no.. looks like it's offline for some reason
[10:21] <YazzY> so is gutsy usable now ?
[10:22] <kimmey2k3> Go to system - preferences - sessions
[10:22] <pepsi2> what yazzy?
[10:22] <mike__> any improvements in gutsy?
[10:22] <Whiz2> kimmey2k3: I didn't even know that kubuntu had serviceslol
[10:22] <kimmey2k3> then you see the tab "startup programs"
[10:22] <bri> Hi, can anyone plez tell what the best distro would be for a Mac (Powerbook) G4?
[10:22] <jerryrighter> can someone run me through with installing compiz fusion on feisty 7.4 and still have beryl installed?
[10:22] <kimmey2k3> just lick on the "new"-button and add
[10:22] <kimmey2k3> click
[10:24] <Whiz2> kimmey2k3: system services run before kde?
[10:24] <jonjohn> anyone? know how to install fusion and still keep beryl?
[10:24] <kimmey2k3> im not sure about it, but you can test
[10:25] <electric_penguin> jerr: haven't read it yet but try this - http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/enable_compizfusion_in_ubuntu_feisty/
[10:25] <jonjohn> hey electric_penguin where u nto getting my pm's while ago?
[10:26] <electric_penguin> i did then i lost ya!
[10:26] <|thunder> where are gconf settings stored? or, how can I delete them ?
[10:26] <gcostello> |thunder: $HOME/.gconf
[10:26] <makt> how can i delete /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5
[10:26] <|thunder> gcostello; thx
[10:26] <jonjohn> oh i use that electric_penguin it crashed both lol
[10:26] <pepsi2> why delete?
[10:27] <Whiz2> kimmey2k3: the service is there set to run as a specific script, but I want to know how to make it run as me, instead of root
[10:28] <Whiz2> kimmey2k3: if it runs as root, it is useless to me
[10:28] <pepsi2> yeah
[10:28] <pepsi2> very true
[10:28] <electric_penguin> thunder try gconf-editor, ujse with great caution...;)
[10:28] <tonyduke> check
[10:28] <|thunder> electric_penguin; i wanted to remove entries
[10:28] <|thunder> thx
[10:29] <electric_penguin> not sure i got yer pms jonjohn...
[10:29] <kimmey2k3> im not sure about that
[10:29] <kimmey2k3> but it shouldnt be too hard to fix
[10:29] <Whiz2> i just need to know the command to put in the script, so it runs right ;-)
[10:29] <OPTIMusprime1212> eh welli sent u two electric_penguin
[10:30] <bri> I have a Powerbook G4 and would like 2 install Linux ):-) any tips on the best distro?
[10:30] <sudo_rm_-rf_> bri ubuntu maybe?
[10:30] <TuTUX> bri, yellowdog
[10:30] <Whiz2> i use kubuntu :-)
[10:30] <bri> Yea which one?
[10:30] <tonyduke> ubuntu, of course! :-)
[10:30] <tripitaka> Hi, I've just put a freshly burned 7.0.4 CD in a new laptop, and when I boot it from CD, I get 'busybox.. /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off'
[10:30] <Whiz2> feisty fawn
[10:31] <bri> Y
[10:31] <tonyduke> kinda eye candy.
[10:31] <kimmey2k3> sorry but im not so into scripting yet
[10:31] <Whiz2> kimmey2k3: tyanyway
[10:32] <Whiz2> bri:my personaly preference is feisty fawn, but which one you choose is ultimately up to you
[10:32] <OPTIMusprime1212> y is it when i install fusion it shows beryls settings ? or when i install fusion i have to type compiz --replace everytime and then to get intot he settings i have to type ccsm in run command
[10:32] <bri> Whiz2.. Y Feisty fawn?
[10:32] <Bjornalf> Whiz2: i think you'd need to put su <username> in front of the command
[10:33] <Whiz2> bri: prettier, reliable, and compatible with more stuff
[10:33] <bri> Is that all?
[10:33] <tripitaka> can I get into a grub prompt from the live CD boot?
[10:33] <Bjornalf> oh thank god.. it finally installed right :)
[10:33] <TuTUX> bri: feisty is the newest stable release of ubuntu, and yet ubuntu has ppc support
[10:34] <bri> ppcf is?
[10:34] <TuTUX> bri: for the reason of choosing ubuntu, since you are in the channel of ubuntu so...
[10:34] <Whiz2> Bjornalf: su? not sudo?
[10:34] <TuTUX> bri: powerpc cpu
[10:34] <TuTUX> bri: which inside your G5
[10:34] <jonjohn> whiz2 its def sudo
[10:35] <bri> Im using Ubuntu alternative on this pc
[10:35] <tripitaka> the busybox error appears immediately following scsi disk discovery
[10:35] <Bjornalf> Whiz2: I think sudo is tied to running as root... su defaults to root but if you put a user after it it uses that
[10:35] <|thunder> !xlib-xcb
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xlib-xcb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <Bjornalf> i could be wrong tho
[10:35] <Whiz2> ok i'mgetting two seperate answers here
[10:35] <tripitaka> sudo  <command> will give the command the effective uid of root
[10:35] <xp> are you chinese?
[10:35] <TuTUX> bri, so you dont like it?
[10:35] <tripitaka> su is a command for changing user contexts
[10:36] <Whiz2> would using su run it with my credentials, AND my environment?
[10:36] <pepsi2> yeah
[10:36] <tripitaka> if you want your environment, run 'su -'
[10:36] <bri> 1500
[10:36] <xp> anybody chinese?
[10:36] <Whiz2> thank you
[10:36] <tripitaka> this will source your profile
[10:36] <bri> 2g of ram
[10:37] <TuTUX> xp:!cn
[10:37] <TuTUX> !cn
[10:37] <tripitaka> anyone know if I can get a grub prompt from the live CD boot?
[10:37] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[10:37] <Whiz2> doesthe runlevel matter?
[10:37] <pepsi2> don't obotu
[10:37] <scipio> tripitaka: yes you can
[10:37] <tripitaka> scipio: great, how? I think I need to point at an alternate boot sector
[10:38] <xp> !cn means you are not chinese or i shouldnot use chinese?
[10:38] <scipio> tripitaka: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=recover+grub
[10:38] <TuTUX> xp: go to channel ubuntu-cn
[10:38] <tripitaka> scipio: I cannot boot ubuntu at all, so I cannot get a console up
[10:39] <scipio> tripitaka: you can't boot from the livecd?
[10:39] <Whiz2> ok i'm going to reboot now to see if this fixes the program...
[10:39] <tripitaka> when I put the live CD in, I get an error: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[10:39] <tripitaka> if I change the boot parameters to remove 'quiet splash', I can see that the error comes after the scsi device discovery
[10:40] <makt> can i activate a win driver for wifi in ubuntu????'
[10:40] <kimmey2k3> yes
[10:40] <kimmey2k3> lookup ndiswrapper
[10:41] <Bjornalf> are permissions of `rwxr-xr-x` 755?
[10:41] <benqlk> my fonts are not good in xhat !what can i do?
[10:41] <scipio> tripitaka: is that feisty?
[10:41] <Bjornalf> i've never gotten the hang of the permission numbers
[10:42] <tripitaka> scipio: yes, 7.0.4
[10:42] <gcostello> Bjornalf: yes
[10:42] <Bjornalf> gcostello: ty
[10:42] <gcostello> Bjornalf: r: 4, rw: 6, rwx: 7
[10:43] <Whiz2> nope! that didn't solve my problem
[10:43] <tonyduke> laggy
[10:43] <Whiz2> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:43] <tripitaka> Whiz2: sorry, what was your problem again?
[10:43] <tonyduke> always offline randomly!:-(
[10:44] <kimmey2k3> Bjornalf: look a bit down, its short and good here: http://www.linuxforums.org/security/file_permissions.html
[10:44] <Whiz2> tripitaka: I'm trying to get vncserver to run before my kde desktop (because i never actually login to kde0 using my credentials, and my environment... if it runs as root, it is useless
[10:45] <tripitaka> grim
[10:46] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Whiz2: what's with vnc running as root??
[10:46] <scipio> tripitaka: some ideas here: http://allostalk.com/showthread.php?t=500418 In another thread i saw someone suggested booting from a knoppix cd and fix the grub
[10:46] <Whiz2> i've (in the past) managed to get it to run on bootup, but only as root
[10:46] <riniver> How can i get my resolution to 1440x900? It's not in the resolution list. I tried sticking 1440x900 into each Depth mode in xorg.conf but it still didn't appear in the resolutions drop down
[10:46] <antoinexp> wow !
[10:46] <tripitaka> scipio: it's not really a matter of fixing grub, as grub is not installed yet - I've literally just put a live CD in a new laptop
[10:46] <antoinexp> hello evrybody !
[10:46] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Whiz2: what about putting it in rc.local?
[10:47] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Whiz2: it runs as root
[10:47] <Whiz2> sudo_rm_-rf_: tried that
[10:47] <Whiz2> no if it runs as root, it is useless to me
[10:47] <Hypothesis> I have a question.  I have ubuntu on this partition. I have WINXP on my other partition. Is it possible to access my files on the other partition?
[10:47] <kimmey2k3> yes
[10:47] <kimmey2k3> !ntfs-3g
[10:47] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:47] <CorpseFeeder> Tell me.. what should my kernel version be if I am running feisty?
[10:48] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Hypothesis: ntfs-3g
[10:48] <Whiz2> root has no desktop... if it runs as root, and I try to use it, i get a blank desktopwith a X
[10:48] <antoinexp> what is the type of your partition ?
[10:48] <antoinexp> NTFS, FAT32 ... ?
[10:48] <scipio> tripitaka: ah allright then forget the grub thing and try what they say in the link i gave you. that might work
[10:48] <tripitaka> if I wanted to run something as another user, I might try 'sudo su - otheruser -c command'
[10:48] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Hypothesis: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g ntfsconfig
[10:48] <antoinexp> evry types work
[10:48] <tessa> ?
[10:48] <Whiz2> i'm trying to not have it run as root at all
[10:48] <Bjornalf> ok i made a folder root:users with permissions of 775, i'm in the users group but it won't let me write to the folder
[10:49] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Hypothesis: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g ntfs-config
[10:49] <Hypothesis> sudo_rm_-rf_, , ok.
[10:49] <Frogzoo> Bjornalf: ls -ld /folder
[10:49] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Hypothesis: work
[10:50] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Hypothesis: work's great and use the config utility in system tools to configure it
[10:50] <antoinexp> what's new today  in the world of linux ?
[10:50] <TylerJGillies> !g++
[10:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:51] <tripitaka> scipio: that's a good lead, thanks, looks like I need to modprobe a kernel module and get it into initrd
[10:51] <CorpseFeeder> can someone tell me wht my kernel version is supposed to be cos I think it is wrong. It's been messed up ever since I tried to update with the "upgrade to 7.04" button.
[10:51] <Bjornalf> Frogzoo:  drwxrwxr-x 3 root users 4096 2007-08-24 04:19 /media/vault
[10:51] <scipio> tripitaka: good luck
[10:51] <Frogzoo> CorpseFeeder: should be 2.6.20-16-generic
[10:51] <tripitaka> Bjornalf: what are the mount options on that dir?
[10:52] <TylerJGillies> !repositories
[10:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:52] <Bjornalf> tripitaka: whatever the ubuntu installer made them
[10:52] <dini> dhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhehhheeeeeereetet
[10:52] <Frogzoo> Bjornalf: what's 'groups' say for this user?
[10:52] <TylerJGillies> !EasySource
[10:52] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:52] <Whiz2> I know this is a bad analogy, but what I want would be the equivilant of a win98 autoexec batch type deal (which runs before the desktop is ever shown) that runs the program with my credentials, and my environment
[10:53] <TylerJGillies> i guess having build-essential installed is essential
[10:53] <Bjornalf> umm not part of users... but i checked the users group through gnome :(
[10:53] <Frogzoo> Whiz2: you need to write a script, running out of /etc/rc2.d/ - calling su -c
[10:53] <CorpseFeeder> Frogzoo: That's what I thought, but my system is f'ed up because uname is telling me I got 2.6.17-11-generic.. so i can't compile anything because it keeps telling me I have the wrong kernel sources...
[10:53] <Whiz2> i have a script sitting in my init.d directory
[10:53] <Frogzoo> Bjornalf: if you just added yourself to the group, logout /in
[10:54] <Whiz2> script is set to run at boottime
[10:54] <Bjornalf> Frogzoo: i'll try that as soon as the 117 updates finish ;)
[10:55] <CorpseFeeder> Frogzoo: but nothing comes up for 2.6.17 when I search synaptic - all I get is 2.6.20 source, so I'm kind of stuck....
[10:55] <Whiz2> frogzoo: i have it set to run as a system service from a script located in /etc/init.d that runs at boot time... what I need to know is the exact command... currently set as su username vncserver 1024x768
[10:55] <Hypothesis> sudo_rm_-rf_, I used the program, Are you able to open .exe files in ubuntu?
[10:55] <Frogzoo> CorpseFeeder: you should upgrade your kernel to 2.6.20 - don't know why this didn't already happen - 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic'
[10:56] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Hypothesis: you need wine to use windows applications in linux
[10:56] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[10:56] <Frogzoo> Whiz2: man su
[10:56] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Hypothesis: !wine
[10:56] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Hypothesis: !Wine
[10:56] <EvaLuaTe> is there a way to increase virtual memory without breaking the current instalation ? (i'm running ubuntu server v 7.04)
[10:56] <Jowi> Whiz2, su username -c command
[10:57] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Hypothesis: wine is a compatabilty lay for linux that allow windows application to run under linux
[10:57] <CorpseFeeder> Frogzoo: all the 2.6.20 stuff shows up as being installed already, but uname refuses to believe it. I don't get it. I try your suggestion....
[10:57] <Bjornalf> wouldn't that be a symlink problem then?
[10:58] <Whiz2> man su tells me nothing i need to know
[10:58] <Hypothesis> sudo_rm_-rf_, I thought wine was crap?
[10:58] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Hypothesis: not completely true
[10:58] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Hypothesis: i run game fine
[10:59] <tripitaka> Whiz2: try      su - username -c "vncserver 1024x768"
[10:59] <Ind[y] > Is there an "evince" plugin for Firefox? If not, how can I get Adobe Reader, and its Firefox plugin?
[10:59] <riniver> Noone knows how to add custom screen resolutions?
[10:59] <Whiz2> tripitaka: include quotes?
[10:59] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Hypothesis: what exactly do you wish to do with windows?
[10:59] <tripitaka> yes
[10:59] <Bjornalf> how do i add my user to a group from the cli?
[11:00] <Ind[y] > riniver: Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:00] <SlimeyPete> "adduser <user> <group>", Bjornalf
[11:00] <Hypothesis> sudo_rm_-rf_,  I am trying to open a program in ubuntu that use in windows all the time.
[11:00] <tripitaka> usermod
[11:00] <CorpseFeeder> Frogzoo: sorry, can I have that command again, I lost it...
[11:00] <Hypothesis> sudo_rm_-rf_, they make no linux version of the program, only .exe.
[11:00] <Frogzoo> CorpseFeeder: you should upgrade your kernel to 2.6.20 - don't know why this didn't already happen - 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic'
[11:00] <riniver> Ind[y] : I added 1440x900 to all the 'Modes' lines in 'Screen' section but it didn't appear in my resolution drop down list
[11:00] <CorpseFeeder> Frogzoo: thanks
[11:00] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Hypothesis: most likely you will have to install wine ( sudo apt-get install wine )
[11:01] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Hypothesis: and install them using wine
[11:01] <Ind[y] > riniver: Restarted X?
[11:01] <yeniklasorr> How can I fix this ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34863/
[11:01] <SlimeyPete> Hypothesis: you can check winehq.com to see whether h application is compatible with wine
[11:01] <riniver> Ind[y] : Does that mean reboot?
[11:01] <SlimeyPete> some are, some aren't
[11:01] <Hypothesis> Okay thanks.
[11:02] <Ind[y] > riniver: Not necesserilly, but reboot, definitely restarts X.
[11:02] <rootusr> my xchat cannot contact to server and said No identd (auth) response
[11:02] <rootusr> connect*
[11:02] <Ind[y] > riniver: Actually, make the changes in xorg.conf and save (as root), and then reboot.
[11:02] <Jowi> rootusr, you don't need ident for it to connect. mine say the same
[11:02] <alyat> why do I keep getting "could not download all repository indexes" message?
[11:03] <riniver> Ind[y] : OK, thanks
[11:03] <scipio> Ind[y] : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-adobe-pdf-reader-with-plug-in-for-mozilla-firefox-in-feisty-fawn.html
[11:03] <Bjornalf> alyat: cause security.ubuntu.com is down right now
[11:03] <SlimeyPete> alyat: either the repository servers are down or your ISP is playing up, I guess
[11:03] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Hypothesis: also check this out http://www.linuxalt.com/ it's a site with equivalent's to windows applications
[11:03] <Ind[y] > scipio: thanks
[11:03] <rootusr> Jowi: but what should i do, i cannot connect to any server
[11:03] <Hypothesis> sudo_rm_-rf_, ok
[11:03] <EvaLuaTe> is there some online resource about adding new user groups and enabling/disabling some commands/features for each group ?
[11:03] <Whiz2> tripitaka: hmmm... when i look at the icon for the script file, it doesn't show like the others (which look like konsoles) instead it looks like apiece of paper with a pencil... does that mean it's not executable?
[11:04] <CorpseFeeder> Frogzoo: that didn't work either it just tells me linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic is already the newest version. and says nothing upgraded, nothing installed and nothing to remove.. but uname still tells me the worng kernel version..
[11:04] <coNP> Someone on Kubuntu Feisty with daily upgrades can confirm if Kate is working ATM?
[11:04] <tripitaka> what's the script filename?
[11:04] <sudo_rm_-rf_> EvaLuaTe: check out ubuntuguide.org
[11:04] <Whiz2> vncserver.local
[11:04] <Whiz2> located in /etc/init.d
[11:04] <alyat> also had problems why I tried to install applications
[11:05] <Whiz2> i put it there
[11:05] <rootusr> Jowi: nvm i forgot to rm .xchat2 after reinstall
[11:06] <Bjornalf> ok is using Automatix2 a bad idea? (beyond the legal ones) i've heard people say it's good and some say it's not
[11:06] <CorpseFeeder> why is my kernel version messed up?
[11:06] <alyat> why do I keep getting message that certain application "cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)"?
[11:07] <Whiz2> tripitaka: /etc/init.d/vncserver.local
[11:07] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Bjornalf: Automatix kills ubuntu installation
[11:07] <kimmey2k3> !automatix
[11:07] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Bjornalf: you are better off reading the ubuntu wiki personally
[11:07] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[11:08] <CorpseFeeder> how do I remove my screwed-up kernel and re-install it properly?
[11:08] <kimmey2k3> Hm. It was some about it somewhere that said DONT USE IT
[11:08] <sudo_rm_-rf_> Bjornalf: easy ubuntu is slightly better but both should be avoided
[11:08] <kimmey2k3> It could easier to fix broken stuff with reinstallation of ubuntu, thats ill
[11:08] <daxxar> How should I debug a hard-lock on my laptop?
[11:09] <CorpseFeeder> My kernel - it's %$#@ed ;)
[11:09] <tripitaka> whiz2: ok, and where are you calling it from? is it set executable? Will it run automatically just because it is in /etc/init.d/? Also, the icon is just taken from the file suffix, if you rename it to vnc.sh it will show up normally
[11:10] <knoppix> rpm -Uvh gaim-0.58-2.i386.rpm --nodeps --force
[11:10] <Jordan_U> CorpseFeeder, How did you install it? Compiled from source? Can you boot with the previous kernel from grub?
[11:10] <pepsi2> jordan wat?!
[11:10] <Jordan_U> knoppix, Why are you using an rpm?
[11:10] <Whiz2> tripitaka:I'm calling it as a system service (Set in system services, and selected to run at boot) I dunno if it is executable... setting it as a system service to run at boot time should make it run automatically
[11:10] <riniver> How do i get Lock Screen to bind to right windows key + L. as soon as i prses the key it sets to 'Super R' and won't let me hit L
[11:10] <Jordan_U> pepsi2, Was that aimed at me?
[11:11] <CorpseFeeder> Jordan_U: I just installed it by using the "upgrade" or "f#$% ya computer up" button in Software Update. I think I stil have previous version in grub menu.. I'm not sure. I don't think I uninstalled it unless the upgrade process deleted it for me.
[11:12] <scipio> riniver: try system-pref-keyboard shortcuts
[11:12] <riniver> scipio: that's what i'm in
[11:12] <Jordan_U> CorpseFeeder, No, old kernels are never automatically deleted
[11:12] <CyberMadz> when i'm doing installation of ubuntu, does ubuntu already detect the VGA ? because right now the screen resolution is 800x600, but before it's 1024x768..
[11:14] <pc06> how do i boot on xp first?
[11:14] <CodemasterMM> pc06: this would be a setting in grub
[11:15] <riniver> pc06: If you're using GRUB edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[11:15] <tonyduke> reconfige the grub setting
[11:15] <tonyduke> you mean set the xp as default?
[11:15] <riniver> pc06: There is a nice tutorial here: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[11:16] <bobsomebody> lol, google just indexed my test server
[11:16] <bobsomebody> silly google :P
[11:16] <CodemasterMM> haha
[11:16] <CorpseFeeder> obviously no one knows the answer... so I'm going to see what I can mess up by myself instead.
[11:16] <Jordan_U> pc06, Put the lines for grub above the ##automagic kernels list section
[11:16] <CorpseFeeder> bye
[11:16] <Guest28049868> Anyone ever here of VxWorks running Agranat-EmWeb/R5_2_4?
[11:16] <pc06> yeah with this sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:16] <pc06> what do i do to make xp boot first
[11:16] <Jordan_U> pc06, * The lines for windows
[11:17] <TylerJGillies> is it possible to download two program simutaneously with apt-get or do you have to wait until one is done?
[11:17] <TylerJGillies> by programs i mean packages
[11:18] <Whiz2> pc06: paste the contents of your /boot/grub/menu.lst into pastebin,and give me the URL I can tell you exactly what to change, and what to change it to
[11:18] <dwa> TylerJGillies: you can only do one at a time
[11:18] <Bjornalf> Tyler: it's one at a time but you can list multiple on the command..
[11:18] <pc06> ok
[11:18] <TuTUX> TylerJGillies, synaptic does that i guess
[11:18] <TylerJGillies> dwa: that sucks
[11:19] <dwa> why TylerJGillies? Bjornalf pointed out you can list multiple programs in the command line
[11:19] <TylerJGillies> dwa: but i already typed the command
[11:20] <dwa> TylerJGillies: then wait for it to finish and install the other programs you want
[11:20] <PuToReGuiLa> hey fellows
[11:20] <PuToReGuiLa> i need some help
[11:20] <tonyduke> greetings
[11:20] <ericf> Hey, i'm running gutsy on my macBook, and since a few day my audio broke. In alsamixer I only see a "master" and "pcm" output, and a "digital" capture bar, while before i had many bars (output stuff, microphone input, etc.). Any ideas how to fix this?
[11:20] <tonyduke> shoot
[11:20] <TylerJGillies> dwa: i'm impatient ;)
[11:21] <dwa> hehe
[11:21] <PuToReGuiLa> i don t have sound in the computer since i installed the ubuntu
[11:21] <riniver> Is there a config file that contains a list of keyboard shortcuts taht i could edit?
[11:21] <riniver> The keyboard shortcuts menu in preferences is completely useless
[11:22] <shooter> who speaks in russian?
[11:22] <tonyduke> audio processor mode?
[11:22] <pc06> Whiz2: can u join me #pastebin ill paste it there?
[11:22] <faileas> !ru
[11:22] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:22] <TylerJGillies> PuToReGuiLa: try loading the module for your sound card
[11:22] <PuToReGuiLa> whats that??
[11:22] <PuToReGuiLa> :)
[11:23] <pc06> Whiz2: is it ok?
[11:23] <shooter> who speaks in russian?
[11:23] <boky> does someone knows, how to connect three WAN's on singe Ubunut server?
[11:23] <faileas> shooter: try the russian channel
[11:23] <SlimeyPete> !russian
[11:23] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:24] <TylerJGillies> boky: try hamachi
[11:24] <m0u5e> is there a way to start up (for example) compiz --replace, and then detach it from the terminal and have it run in like a daemon?
[11:24] <m0u5e> *through the terminal though, for in cases of compiz screwing up :/
[11:24] <TylerJGillies> m0u5e: compiz --replace &?
[11:24] <shooter> who worked in mandriva linux?
[11:25] <Ubunter> hello
[11:25] <Jordan_U> m0u5e, Run it from screen?
[11:26] <tonyduke> find who u want in a mandriva channel,
[11:26] <m0u5e> TylerJGillies: it somehow still monopolizes a terminal... --; let me try that again
[11:26] <m0u5e> Jordan_U: but it would still be using a screen
[11:26] <doug_> what is the worst thing that can happen if someone sends you a file through aim?
[11:27] <Whiz2> i can't seem to get help for this problem no matter what i do... maybe I need to just give up... again
[11:27] <gcorriga> Hi all. I have a remote server running Debian Sarge. I'd like to move it to Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. Is there a way to do a live upgrade of the machine?
[11:27] <boky> TylerJGillies: Hamachi is VPN software, I need some way to manage trhree deferent internet connection (WAN) on my linux box...
[11:27] <Ubunter> is there anyone who is an Ubuntu developer?
[11:27] <TylerJGillies> m0u5e: try compiz --replace 2>output &
[11:27] <m0u5e> tylerJgillies: err ill try that next time it crashes =D
[11:28] <tripitaka> scipio: got my installer working, had to use the alternate install CD
[11:28] <m0u5e> i just wanted to know in case it crashed on me, and im without a windows decorator lol
[11:28] <BlendArt> does anyone use openoffice?
[11:28] <Jordan_U> m0u5e, Yes, but screen uses almost no resources and you don't have to have an active xterm open cluttering things up
[11:28] <SubFreeze> Ahhh, late night in the office.
[11:28] <SubFreeze> BlendArt: I do on occasion.
[11:28] <BlendArt> SubFreeze: do you know how to add custom page numbers?
[11:28] <SubFreeze> BlendArt: Such as in the header/footer auto-increment page #'s?
[11:29] <TylerJGillies> BlendArt: its the best in my opinion
[11:29] <BlendArt> SubFreeze:  but that doesnt appear when I print it
[11:29] <guest> . S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a
[11:29] <guest> . S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a
[11:29] <guest> . S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a
[11:29] <shooter> who adjusted asus nx1001?
[11:29] <guest> . S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a
[11:29] <SubFreeze> boot guest?
[11:29] <guest> . S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a
[11:29] <BlendArt> asap
[11:29] <guest> . S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a
[11:29] <Jordan_U> !ops
[11:29] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[11:29] <guest> . S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a
[11:29] <guest> . S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a
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[11:29] <SubFreeze> gah
[11:29] <kimmey2k3> Wtf
[11:29] <guest> . S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a
[11:29] <guest> .   S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a
[11:29] <guest> . S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a. S E R V E R            i r c .I R C i t a l y. n e t    # T e t o v a.   How about early afternoon ;)
[11:30] <BlendArt> footers dont print
[11:30] <Jordan_U> dwa, Please don't, it would just feed the troll
[11:30] <SubFreeze> k, so BlendArt: You've added a default Footer and then in that default footer you've added the Page #?
[11:31] <Bjornalf> dwa: try crack of dawn ;)
[11:31] <dwa> i know Jordan_U, i was only kidding
[11:31] <Whiz2> thinkthey are trying to advertise a server? :-p
[11:31] <BlendArt> SubFreeze: yes
[11:31] <SubFreeze> Insert->Footer->Default.   Click inside of footer.  Insert->Field->Page Number.
[11:31] <SubFreeze> then type "of "
[11:31] <TylerJGillies> dwa: heh
[11:31] <SubFreeze> and then insert->field->page count
[11:31] <SubFreeze> and it doesn't print?
[11:32] <TylerJGillies> where do files go if you delete them from trash?
[11:32] <avis> when you do the read and write part function of fsck.ext3 does it destroy existing data ?
[11:32] <SubFreeze> TylerGillies /dev/null
[11:33] <lil-g-man> hey guys and few girls
[11:33] <SubFreeze> 'ello lil-g-man
[11:33] <TuTUX> !git
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about git - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <TylerJGillies> SubFreeze: crap...
[11:33] <SubFreeze> TylerJGillies: Yea, it's gone ;) Not like windows with 42 layers of undelete.
[11:33] <lil-g-man> i've got vista ubuntu dual boot, and on my ubuntu desktop i see the partitions like vista and also hp recovery partition. is it somehow possible to make them go away from the desktop?
[11:34] <Ubunter> if i have Windows XP installed and then want to install Ubuntu as dual boot but don't want that GRUB overwrites my master boot record (MBR)... is there any way to do that? is it possible to install GRUB into the first sector of the /boot partition?
[11:34] <lil-g-man> only options are i c r 'unmount volume' and i don't wanna do that
[11:34] <SubFreeze> lil-g-man: Yea, just delete the shortcut from your desktop.  Make sure it is a shortcut, first.
[11:34] <elias85>  i ve downloaded some rar files.how can i unrar them all so ill get 1 file?
[11:34] <lil-g-man> subfreeze: it's not a shortcut
[11:34] <SubFreeze> Ubhunter: Good luck ;)
[11:34] <user_> o
[11:34] <SubFreeze> lil-g-man: so you mounted the partitions to your desktop?
[11:34] <avis> elias the unrar command does that sudo apt-get install unrar
[11:35] <SlimeyPete> elias85: just unrar the first one. Usually it's called .rar whereas the others are .r01 etc
[11:35] <lil-g-man> subfreeze: ubuntu did it by itself
[11:35] <lil-g-man> subfreeze: i installed ubuntu and it started with those partitions on the desktop
[11:35] <neon_> anyone know if i can conect to winmx servers off this program
[11:35] <r00t_> na.org
[11:35] <SubFreeze> lil-g-man: They're not partitions persey on your desktop, they're mounted volumes.  What happens when you unmount them?
[11:36] <lil-g-man> subfreeze: don't wanna try :)
[11:36] <pawan> hi
[11:36] <pawan> how to install bin file
[11:36] <lassegul> lil-g-man: If you edit /etc/fstab to mount them outside of /media/ they wont show up on your desktop
[11:36] <Tarelerulz_man> I have been trying to play dvd and not had any luck. I install to lib that should have let me play dvd ,but they don't .  it is really that easy to play dvd and I am missing something or it hard like everything les in Linux
[11:36] <lil-g-man> subfreeze: scared, when i unmount ext volumes they disappear, i don't want them to disappear :
[11:36] <Bjornalf> ok how do i watch dvd's with totem? it installed a gstreamer "ugly" codec pack but still won't play
[11:37] <Bjornalf> lol
[11:37] <ryyker> how do I make the drives appear in the qtparted ?
[11:37] <SubFreeze> lil-g-man: They go away from the mounted folder, you can re-mount them elsewhere with the mount command.    Hand type them ;)
[11:37] <Tarelerulz_man> I install all the ugly codecs myself for totem and it plays all the codic like wma , avi and so ,but never dvds
[11:37] <BlendArt> SubFreeze: my teacher wount accept ...
[11:38] <SlimeyPete> pawan: sh <filename>
[11:38] <SubFreeze> BlendArt: How will your teacher know?
[11:38] <lassegul> lil-g-man: just open a terminal and do a  sudo umount -a to unmount all disks that arent being actively used, then  mount them again by writng  sudo mount -a
[11:38] <BlendArt> SubFreeze: extremely strict
[11:38] <pawan> googleearth.bin
[11:38] <SubFreeze> BlendArt: Weather you type them into the footer, or the program does, is no different to the printed result ;)
[11:38] <SlimeyPete> pawan: might have to be "sudo sh filename" if the installer wants root privelidges
[11:38] <slim> lil-g-man:-system tools - config editor-apps-nautilus-desktop-show volumes & uncheck
[11:39] <dandanilaprepele> wine ... not workin anymore ...
[11:39] <dandanilaprepele> X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
[11:39] <dandanilaprepele>   Major opcode of failed request:  1 (X_CreateWindow)
[11:39] <dandanilaprepele>   Resource id in failed request:  0x3e00007
[11:39] <dandanilaprepele>   Serial number of failed request:  13
[11:39] <dandanilaprepele>   Current serial number in output stream:  15
[11:39] <Whiz2> ok unless someone comes up with somebrilliant idea that I haven't thought of to solve myproblem,i'm going to give up on it for umpteenth time
[11:39] <dandanilaprepele> ... how do i make it work again  ?:D
[11:39] <SubFreeze> Whiz2: You have a problem? hmmmm
[11:39] <Tarelerulz_man> Do most of you play  normal DVD with your computer ? or that not normal like read and writting to ntfs
[11:39] <Whiz2> yes i have a problem
[11:39] <jesSon_newbie> is there a built in command to scan sock4 using the ubuntu terminal?? if so wat command?
[11:39] <SubFreeze> Whiz2: What might it be?
[11:39] <dandanilaprepele> hey
[11:39] <dandanilaprepele> anybody
[11:40] <tarntow> if i need to add adobe flash player for opera which option is best between (.tar.gz/ .rpm/ YUM)..thanks
[11:40] <lil-g-man> slim: huh? how do i get there?
[11:40] <jesSon_newbie> !proxy
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[11:40] <dandanilaprepele> wine pro's here ? i got this error since i set another resolution to a game
[11:40] <dandanilaprepele> X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
[11:40] <dandanilaprepele>   Major opcode of failed request:  1 (X_CreateWindow)
[11:40] <dandanilaprepele>   Resource id in failed request:  0x3e00007
[11:40] <dandanilaprepele>   Serial number of failed request:  13
[11:41] <dandanilaprepele>   Current serial number in output stream:  15
[11:41] <dandanilaprepele>  ... uh .. how do i make it shine again ? (winecfg not working... same error)
[11:41] <Whiz2> SubFreeze: I would like to have vncserver run at boottime without me having to login to the kde desktop... but I need it to run with my credentials, and my evironment, or it is useless. otherwise, i have to run it manually from the konsole every time i boot
[11:41] <slim> lil-g-man:- main menu should have a system tools entry it's in there
[11:41] <SubFreeze> is vncserver a UI app?
[11:41] <Whiz2> vncserver is a remote desktop control application
[11:41] <SubFreeze> Does it require xterm?
[11:42] <dandanilaprepele> guys help mee :))
[11:42] <Whiz2> i dunno what xterm is so I can't answer that
[11:42] <dandanilaprepele> xterm stands for x terminal
[11:42] <lil-g-man> slim: crap, can't find it
[11:42] <Whiz2> it will run before i login... if i tty it
[11:42] <SubFreeze> Whiz2: So if you're at 100% console (no x-windows starting) you can run the proggy?
[11:43] <Whiz2> yes while it is sitting on the login screen
[11:43] <BlendArt> SubFreeze: manually added numbers look so off aligned..
[11:43] <dandanilaprepele> wine error :|X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
[11:43] <dandanilaprepele>   Major opcode of failed request:  1 (X_CreateWindow)
[11:43] <dandanilaprepele>   Resource id in failed request:  0x3e00007
[11:43] <dandanilaprepele>   Serial number of failed request:  13
[11:43] <dandanilaprepele>   Current serial number in output stream:  15
[11:43] <SubFreeze> BlendArt: Is it ignoring your footer all together?
[11:43] <SubFreeze> dandanilaprepele: stop posting that crap.
[11:43] <SubFreeze> :)
[11:43] <BlendArt> SubFreeze: yep
[11:43] <Whiz2> that is what pastebin is for ;-)
[11:44] <dandanilaprepele> lol but htf i fix it :|
[11:44] <SubFreeze> Whiz2: sitting at the console login screen, or the x-windows (KDE, Gnome, etc.) login screen?
[11:44] <SubFreeze> dandanilaprepele: un-do what you did to break it.
[11:44] <Jordan_U> dandanilaprepele, Try #winehq
[11:44] <dandanilaprepele> kk
[11:44] <Whiz2> i have to login to tty (console) in order to run it
[11:44] <tarntow> Anyone here uses opera ?
[11:44] <SubFreeze> BlendArt: hmmm
[11:44] <Whiz2> i can run it before logging into X desktop
[11:44] <Whiz2> kde desktop even
[11:45] <Jordan_U> !anybody | tarntow
[11:45] <ubotu> tarntow: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:45] <slim> lil-g-man:-I'm on feisty It has setting in control centre to add config editor to main menu if it isn't there Are you on feisty?
[11:45] <SubFreeze> Whiz2: alright, you can add it to your startup services
[11:45] <SubFreeze> Whiz2: You may be able to add it to /etc/indetd.conf
[11:45] <tonyduke> go directly to your point
[11:46] <SubFreeze> slim: From TTY / Console do:  apt-get update.    THEN:   apt-get upgrade.
[11:46] <SubFreeze> as root (or sudo)
[11:46] <Cin> hi. on Firefox, my input boxes and buttons look like windows 95
[11:46] <tarntow> ubotu: my opear doesnt have abobe flash player..then it directs me to a site for download but has three different types (taz.gz /rpm & YUM) not sure which ..cheers
[11:46] <Cin> why is that?
[11:46] <Whiz2> noooooooo!it can NOT run as root! if it runs as root, it is completely useless to me
[11:46] <SubFreeze> tarntow: You need to get the .gz
[11:47] <lil-g-man> slim: i am on feisty
[11:47] <SubFreeze> Whiz2: I believe you can specify which user it should load as, but to that extent, I'm useless.
[11:47] <lil-g-man> slim: i'm in control center, what i should be looking for?
[11:47] <Jordan_U> tarntow, I may be wrong but I think that the flashplugin-nonfree package works for Opera too
[11:47] <tarntow> i thought i had already downloaded marcoflashplayer for add/program so it's not the same flashplayer plugin then
[11:48] <Cin> http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3343/screenshotgooglemozillahn5.png
[11:48] <Cin> what's all that aboot?
[11:48] <slim> subfreeze:-I'm happy on feisty -lil-g-man is looking for config editor dunno what he/she is running
[11:48] <SubFreeze> gotcha
[11:48] <tarntow> jordan_U : thanx..may be i'll reinstall flashplugin-non free...
[11:48] <Whiz2> nevermind... i give up
[11:49] <Whiz2> i've been dealing with this for months
[11:49] <slim> lil-g-man:- entry for main menu - then system tools - then configuration editor
[11:49] <pawan> hello
[11:50] <lil-g-man> slim: now i found it
[11:50] <lil-g-man> slim: i wasn't looking under applications, i was looking under system
[11:50] <Whiz2> i'm so tired of each thing i try continuing to fail, it's just not worth the hassles anymore to try
[11:50] <phizzalot> oin #xxxpassworld
[11:50] <slim> lil-g-man:- lol
[11:50] <phizzalot> join #xxxpassworld
[11:51] <Bjornalf> ok if automatix and company are bad ideas is there an easy way to get thunderbird 2.0 and Opera? oh and how do i watch DVD's?
[11:51] <Jordan_U> tarntow, You may need to point Opera at the libflashplayer.so
[11:52] <maul^> if I install only general packages and I do NOT run X, what would be different than running a ubuntu server edition?
[11:52] <Jordan_U> !dvd | Bjoern-Erik
[11:52] <SlimeyPete> maul^: nothing.
[11:52] <BlendArt> SubFreeze: it does not print anything below the default base line...
[11:52] <lil-g-man> slim: thank you :)
[11:52] <SubFreeze> BlendArt: Change your page borders
[11:52] <ubotu> Bjoern-Erik: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:52] <Jordan_U> Bjornalf, ^^
[11:52] <ari_stress> afternoon
[11:52] <Bjornalf> lol
[11:52] <BlendArt> SubFreeze: I should raise the page?
[11:53] <Jordan_U> Bjornalf, Opera is in Applications -> Add / Remove
[11:53] <SubFreeze> BlendArt: Change the page borders, so instead of 1" from the top and bottom, it's .5", then see if the header/footer prints.
[11:53] <slim> lil-g-man:- enjoy a clearer desktop!
[11:53] <monokrome> hey
[11:53] <maul^> SlimeyPete: thanks. then, I will install a ubuntu desktop, with X, and only the packages I need and configure so that X will not start at startup. is it?
[11:53] <monokrome> Anyone able to tell me if `apt-cache search xmms2` brings up anything?
[11:53] <SlimeyPete> maul^: yeah, that'll work.
[11:53] <Ubunter> fuck you all!!
[11:54] <SubFreeze> Monokrome: I prefer amarok, myself.
[11:54] <lil-g-man> ubunter: calm down
[11:54] <TuTUX> lol
[11:54] <SlimeyPete> monokrome: nada
[11:54] <BlendArt> SubFreeze: I set the boarders all max
[11:54] <Whiz2> please watch your language
[11:54] <monokrome> SlimeyPete: Thanks. Does Amarok run as a daemon?
[11:54] <SubFreeze> BlendArt: Max? Eh, minimum sounds more like it.
[11:54] <Jordan_U> Bjornalf, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunderbirdNewVersion
[11:54] <BlendArt> SubFreeze: Im gonna see if it prints within the entire page
[11:54] <SubFreeze> monokrome: Amarok is an app that runs and plays music ;)
[11:55] <SlimeyPete> monokrome: don't think so
[11:55] <SlimeyPete> but I don't use amarok so I dunno
[11:55] <bez> hi people
[11:55] <monokrome> SlimeyPete: Yeah, but XMMS2 is a daemon that doesn't force you to use a specific client. It has a command-line client, which I find nice.
[11:55] <monokrome> You can kill X and still have music
[11:56] <SubFreeze> monokrome: I'd try if I wasn't working on 3 screens right now ;)
[11:56] <SlimeyPete> monokrome: sounds nice.
[11:56] <bez> has anyone tried playing Guild Wars under Ubuntu?
[11:56] <monokrome> It's neat.
[11:56] <monokrome> I'm also looking for a good app for helping me organize my library if you know any that work
[11:56] <tripitaka> anyone had luck installing ubuntu on a 64bit vista machine?
[11:57] <tripitaka> curious if the partitioning would run into trouble with vista's new version of ntfs
[11:57] <monokrome> They are all organized on the filesystem but the tags are borkedn.
[11:57] <faileas> tripitaka: it did for me, on 32 bit. use vista's resizer
[11:57] <SubFreeze> They are 2 different partition types, so long as Partition Magik can resize the NTFS so you can create the new linux ones, you'll be safe.
[11:58] <SubFreeze> wooo-ey, 4am and still going! Yea!
[11:58] <hypodyne> is there a room for c++?
[11:58] <monokrome> ##C++ I think
[11:58] <tonyduke> you mean a tool by which u can scan your filesystem and build a database automatically?
[11:58] <SubFreeze> Damn, I'm on a roll, but just got tired.
[11:58] <SubFreeze> Later all.
[11:58] <BlendArt> SubFreeze: It still does not print anything an inch from the bottom...
[11:59] <tripitaka> failes: good newws, thanks.
[11:59] <monokrome> tonyduke: I want to scan my filesystem and set tags automatically, ideally.
[11:59] <tonyduke> understood
[11:59] <monokrome> Been looking for an appropriate app for a bit now. Know any?
[11:59] <tonyduke> I am looking for it too.
[11:59] <monokrome> Cool.
[12:00] <tonyduke> exciurus, but its just a core. not a tool yet.
[12:01] <monokrome> I found EasyTag might work
[12:01] <lieter> Hi guys, do you know what package i need for amavis to have it put spammails into a MySQL db?
[12:01] <lieter> and is that package available on 6.06
[12:01] <tonyduke> The author encourages funs to develope a front.
[12:02] <monokrome> Wewt. And easytag supports flac!
[12:02] <CorpseFeeder> I worked out why my kernel version was messed up. The stupid automatic upgrade thing installed the kernel to the wrong hard drive for some reason, so I was still booting into edgy when I was supposed to be loading feisty.... yet all my software sources are set to feisty. So I guess I'll have to manually change my sources file to edgy in order for me to be able to install the right stuff for this edgy kernel.
[12:02] <tonyduke> oh, your library is a music lib.
[12:03] <monokrome> tonyduke: eh?
[12:03] <tonyduke> your lib? what's in it?
[12:03] <Bucket> Hello.
[12:03] <CorpseFeeder> how do I remove the feisty kernel from where it is installed on the wrong hard drive and install it to the correct hard drive thus keeping my home folder from edgy?
[12:04] <monokrome> tonyduke: 120GB of music, 80G of videos.
[12:04] <tripitaka> faileas: where is the resizer in vista?
[12:04] <Bucket> Ubuntu is installed a dual booting with Windows. Firstly, I need to find otu how to access the files from Windows from Ubuntu.
[12:04] <Whiz2> would it help to know that the program i'm trying to run is executed as an X session????????
[12:05] <Bucket> Anyone help me please :D? Also, in Add/remove programs, all the programs there are apparently not compatable with my computer type D;
[12:05] <tonyduke> oh! mine is ebooks
[12:05] <tonyduke> misunderstood, :-)
[12:05] <ChaosMachine> Bucket, you should be able to access them automatically, your ntfs (windows) partition is autmatically mounted..
[12:05] <Wess> Hi, Is there any release note for ubuntu 7.10 ?  I need to know which bugs has been fixed in the new release
[12:06] <Bucket> It is.
[12:06] <Bucket> But I can't access anythign from it.
[12:06] <Bjornalf> i'm trying to follow the instructions on the Seveas site but i'm not able to get the gpg key
[12:06] <ChaosMachine> Bucket, whys that? are you getting any kind of errors?
[12:06] <monokrome> tonyduke: EasyTag looks usable!
[12:07] <slim> corpsefeeder:- why not just update the whole os?
[12:07] <CorpseFeeder> slim: It's doing that which screwed it all up in the first place.... how do I remove the crapped up install of feisty which installed itself to the wrong drive and re-install it to the correct drive where edgy current'y resides?
[12:08] <tonyduke> monokrome: got u, thanks. but i have dozens of DVD rom stored ebooks, so i need a library admin tools to handle it.
[12:08] <Bucket> Nope, I just can't see any of the stuff that should be there. For instance I go to Computer users documents music... nothign there. Same with pictures.
[12:08] <Bucket> Sample pictures and sample music is there though.
[12:08] <yeniklasorr> I cannot mix microfon and "idjc" player voice. Can someone help me ?
[12:08] <monokrome> tonyduke: oh my. :|
[12:08] <Jordan_U> Bucket, Are you sure that you are looking at the correct user?
[12:09] <Bucket> All users :D?
[12:09] <slim> corpsefeeder:- What's on the other drive that now has the new kernal?
[12:09] <CorpseFeeder> slim: the idiot automatic upgrade thing from edgy to feisty installed the feisty kernel to the wrong drive for some unknown reason...
[12:09] <tonyduke> i dont store music files, cause i can find it at anytime anywhere
[12:09] <ChaosMachine> That would be the wrong user. lol.
[12:09] <Bucket> There is only one account on XP anyway
[12:10] <smacar> hola
[12:10] <smacar> amanda
[12:11] <faileas> tripitaka: disk management
[12:11] <CorpseFeeder> slim: I have one drive which has edgy and the other drive I had ubuntu studio on... when I tried to upgrade edgy to feisty, it installed the kernel to the same drive where studio is instead of installing it to the drive where edgy is....
[12:11] <Dorothy_> hey all I need a little help please
[12:11] <smacar> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:11] <smacar> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:11] <Dorothy_> I need a CLI command to see all ssl certificates installed
[12:11] <tonyduke> monokrome: there is a world wide music sharing networks, do u really need to store the huge amount of music or videos?
[12:11] <tripitaka> faileas: got it, thanks
[12:11] <smacar> eres   tonto
[12:12] <smacar> tonto
[12:12] <slim> corpsefeeder:= dunno why it would do that. How did you try to do the upgrade?
[12:12] <TaceN> hey guys .. someone wanna help a noob ! ;)
[12:12] <tonyduke> the original sound tracks are worthy to collect.
[12:12] <Bucket> Agh, I go to computer, the my windows HD, then work my way to documents and ssettings, I get default user, all users or local service and network settings. Frrom none of these can I find any form f media.
[12:12] <smacar> 9pu890
[12:12] <Dorothy_> I am a noob and I need some help
[12:12] <Bjornalf> where would i post error messages so one of you might help me?
[12:13] <smacar> kihooukdgfijguirdhsytg89ujiytre
[12:13] <smacar> yes
[12:13] <TaceN> tryin to install vmware tools in my virtual drive .. everything goes well until I have to enter the source to C header (kernel) . .
[12:13] <tonyduke> Dorothy: go directly to your problem.
[12:13] <smacar> opikyutiuop
[12:13] <tripitaka> Bjornalf: pastebin
[12:13] <CorpseFeeder> slim: I foolishly just clicked the "upgrade" button in Software Update and left it to work it out itself. - it obviously wasnt' equipped to handle my odd drive configuration...
[12:13] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Bjornalf
[12:13] <ubotu> Bjornalf: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:13] <smacar> vete  a la mierda
[12:13] <riniver> Is there a prog in ubuntu that lets you limit upload/download speed of applications? Like Netlimiter
[12:13] <Dorothy_> tonyduke: I need a CLI comamnd that lists all installed ssl certs
[12:13] <smacar> hola miguel
[12:13] <alexmv> amandaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:13] <smacar> amandddaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:14] <smacar> amanda
[12:14] <alexmv> k pasa chimenop
[12:14] <smacar> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnna
[12:14] <maria90> I WOULD LIKIE TO TALK WITH SOMEONE
[12:14] <faileas> ...
[12:14] <Jordan_U> !ops
[12:14] <ubotu> Help!  I AM AN SPANISH GIRL WHO WANT TO MEET PEOPLE!!!!!!!
[12:16] <nocturn> What's the easiest way to do bandwith limiting on an Ubuntu machine?
[12:16] <tonyduke> Dorothy, let me check.
[12:16] <nocturn> I want to prioritize SSH, and limit SMTP severyly
[12:16] <benqlk> are you form china or other country?
[12:16] <Bjornalf> bucket: what windows program were you using with the music?
[12:16] <waspius> hi..can anyone explain this to me?http://pastebin.com/m5566eae9
[12:17] <Bucket> You mean media player? I was using winamp, they were all MP3 encoded.
[12:17] <maria90> I DONT KNOW
[12:17] <Bucket> ooo
[12:17] <Bucket> I did a search and I found them all...
[12:17] <Bucket> But I couldn't find the specific user from the computer options D;
[12:17] <tonyduke> dorothy, you mean ssl certs in a ftp app?
[12:18] <faileas> maria90: there's an offtopic channel for general chat. also, all caps is VERY rude
[12:18] <kauer> I have a thinkpad T42. After installing feisty, pressing the volume control buttons would cause a little blue volume control bar to appear, then vanish after I hadn't pressed a button for a second or two. Note that the "tpb" package was *not* installed. I installed it to look at it, which de-installed "hotkey-setup". I didn't like tpb though, so I de-installed it, and re-installed hotkey-setup. But my little blue volume control is still gone :-( Does anyone k
[12:19] <CorpseFeeder> slim: Sorry, I can't wait any longer. I have to sleep. I will work on this problem tomorrow. Thanks for offering to help.
[12:19] <elkbuntu> faileas, these are likely not even real people. we get alot of this sort of stuff from that ip range
[12:19] <Smegzor> I have reinstalled ubuntu 7.04 on 2 identical machines.  On one when I hover the mouse over a music file, it plays the music, but the other PC doesn't play it.  Both PC's can play music however.  Where do I look to fix the sound?  I assume this is a special feature in Gnome?  Ubuntu?
[12:19] <tritoch> i'm unable to connect to a newly installed glftpd - i have the service added to services & inetd (and restarted inetd), but when i try 'ftp localhost <port#>' i get 'ftpd: connection refused'
[12:20] <waspius> can anyone help with thishttp://pastebin.com/m5566eae9??
[12:20] <Jordan_U> kauer, Make sure ubuntu-desktop in installed so that any other needed packages are there
[12:20] <kauer> Smegzor: it's "preview". In a nautilus window, Edit->Preferences->Preview.
[12:21] <Smegzor> thanks
[12:21] <Smegzor> i don't recall setting it for either box
[12:21] <Bucket> Okay, so now, I need to connect to the internet...
[12:21] <kauer> Jordan-U: Installing tpd also de-installed ubuntu-desktop. I've been told it's a meta package and doesn't matter - should I really try re-installing it?!?
[12:21] <tritoch> is there an inetd log i should look for?
[12:22] <Bjornalf> tritoch: see if there's a ftp log in /var/log
[12:22] <lil-g-man> any simple way to change the color of the font in gnome panels?
[12:23] <tritoch> Bjoern-Erik: nothing ftp.log or similar
[12:23] <tritoch> erm, ^ Bjornalf
[12:23] <slim> corpsefeeder:- To update edgy to feisty the best way is to go to the terminal & type gksu  update-manager -c - do that first then sort out studio if it has a problem
[12:24] <Bjornalf> well i need some sleep.. but i'll be back with more noobness later ;)
[12:24] <kauer> Jordan-: Justreinstalled ubuntu-desktop. No change...
[12:24] <tritoch> thanks anyway, goodnight
[12:24] <Jordan_U> kauer, The ubuntu-desktop package alone does not matter, but you might be missing some other package that you need, installing ubuntu-desktop will ensure that you have all of the default packages installed ( which should mean you have everything you need since it worked with a default install )
[12:24] <tego_> how i restore the bar contain tarsh i
[12:25] <PuToReGuiLa> how i configure the sound in the pc?
[12:25] <AlexNicol> Looking for some assistance connecting to a networked printer
[12:25] <PuToReGuiLa> i dont have sound
[12:25] <kauer> Jordan_U: Installing tpb removed only ubuntu-desktop and the hotkey-setp packages. Total 2 (two). Both are now installed again. But no volume control bar :-( I suspect it is not a missing pckage so much as a missing config item...
[12:26] <Don64> !sound
[12:26] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:26] <AlexNicol> Putoreguila - has your sound hardware been detected correctly?  Look in System Settings -> Sound -> hardware
[12:27] <TaceN> hey guys .. do anyone know the exact src to the kernel in ubuntu ?
[12:27] <TaceN> trying to install vmware tools, and everything goes well until he can't find the right path
[12:28] <AlexNicol> I've an HP Laserjet 1000 connected to a Windows machine on the network
[12:28] <Bucket> Okay, so is there anything I need to install now I have linux working?
[12:28] <lassegul> Bucket: what do you want to do today(tm)?
[12:28] <AlexNicol> The printer is shared and can be detected on this linux machine, however the driver is not present in the list.  Reading the online help it gives instructions to install the driver for local printers.  Do I need to do the same even though the printer is connected remotely?
[12:29] <PuToReGuiLa> alexnicol i think it is
[12:29] <lassegul> AlexNicol: Yeah, you do
 If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:29] <AlexNicol> ok cool
[12:29] <AlexNicol> thanks lassegul
[12:29] <Jordan_U> kauer, You could always set them up in System -> Preferences ->Keyboard Shortcuts
[12:29] <lassegul> AlexNicol: np buddy
[12:30] <Bucket> Iunno, I want to be able to access all my media from Windows possibly put an icon on the desktop so as there is easy access to that. Also, I want to use this media. And lastly, I want to connect to the internet, which, due to my means of connecting to the internet seems quite arduous.
[12:30] <PuToReGuiLa> thanks alexnicol
[12:30] <Bucket> I suppose I will want to install Foobar or something when I do get to the internets and eventually some other stuff.
[12:31] <Jordan_U> Bucket, Install ntfs-config from Applications -> Add / Remove to set up NTFS, drag the icon of the disk from Places -> Computer to your desktop
[12:32] <tritoch> bucket: www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:32] <Jordan_U> Bucket, I assume you need to connect wirelessly?
[12:33] <erUSUL> !ntfs | Bucket
[12:33] <ubotu> Bucket: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:33] <avis> anyone know if the read and write function of fsck.ext3 is destructive as to the data on the drive ?
[12:34] <Jordan_U> avis, Can you clarify what you mean?
[12:34] <Bucket> I would need to connect wirelessly also, but I have no access to WiFi where I live, I use a Huawei e220  usb thing
[12:34] <ziggy> ????
[12:34] <ziggy> Whats up my niggers
[12:34] <erUSUL> !adsl | Bucket
[12:34] <ubotu> Bucket: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[12:34] <Jordan_U> !ohmy | ziggy
[12:34] <ubotu> ziggy: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:34] <ziggy> wow there is some one alive out here
[12:35] <ziggy> how are you ?
[12:35] <slim> avis:- From what I know only if younrun it from the drive you want it to work on
[12:35] <Bucket> http://oozie.fm.interia.pl/pro/huawei-e220/index.html that's what I need to do, just need someone to guide me through that I suppose.
[12:35] <Jordan_U> ziggy, There is always someone alive in #ubuntu, there are 1063 people in the channel right now
[12:35] <ziggy> omg
[12:35] <slim> avis:- Run it from a live cd for safety
[12:35] <AboSamoor> hi, i installed the English-arabic and arabic-english dictionary packages dict-freedict-eng-ara, dict-freedict-ara-eng. how i can use them ?
[12:36] <ziggy> well i'm new to linux
[12:36] <ziggy> but i do like it
[12:36] <lassegul> Bucket: ok, you know how to install things?
[12:36] <ziggy> i'm using the berly effect nice touch
[12:36] <BlendArt> damn it!
[12:36] <JimQode> ziggy, try fusion :)
[12:36] <Bucket> Nope, I'm completely new.
[12:37] <ziggy> is that the newer one
[12:37] <JimQode> ziggy, yep. More stable, looks nicer :)
[12:37] <Jordan_U> Bucket, Strange USB thingies are usually a PITA, is there no way you can connect via ethernet?
[12:37] <ziggy> great :) thanks
[12:37] <erUSUL> Bucket: feisty has a 2.6.20 kernel so the workarraund mentioned in http://oozie.fm.interia.pl/pro/huawei-e220/index.html is no needed
[12:37] <ziggy> what els do you suggest i get for linux
[12:37] <ziggy> because i'm so new to it
[12:38] <lassegul> Bucket: See the applications menu? Theres an Add/remove apps button there. Press it, and search, mark for installation and click Ok(or Apply)
[12:38] <Bucket> Okay, but even so, when I plug in the modem, it doesn't appear available in Linux, so how am I supposed to connect?
[12:38] <Bucket> Also, there is no add/remove programs button in apps
[12:38] <Jordan_U> ziggy, Open Applications -> Add / Remove and look around at what is available
[12:38] <BlendArt> When will I be able to convert a document into a jpeg file?!
[12:38] <lassegul> Bucket: at the bottom of the menu?
[12:38] <erUSUL> Bucket: do 'ls /dev/ttyUSB*'
[12:38] <JimQode> ziggy, well it depends on what you want to do with it. i'd recommend kopete over gaim though.
[12:39] <Jordan_U> Bucket, What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[12:39] <ziggy> ive done that and it seems to me that there isn't much options to choose from
[12:39] <twosouls82> Fusion is nice :)
[12:39] <erUSUL> Bucket: with the modem plugged
[12:39] <Bucket> erUSUL, in a sec... I need to figure out other things first ;_;
[12:39] <Jordan_U> BlendArt, What do you need to convert?
[12:39] <Bucket> I'm using ubuntu 7.04 feisty
[12:39] <slim> linux & USB modems don't like each other
[12:40] <BlendArt> Jordan_U: Any type of document file or pdf file to a high resolution image to print from another printer.
[12:40] <erUSUL> Bucket: if you have a /dev/ttyUSB0 or something that's the com port you have to use in the configuration of the dial-up connection
[12:40] <ziggy> ok one second jordan And JimQode
[12:40] <erUSUL> !dialup | Bucket
[12:40] <ubotu> Bucket: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[12:40] <BlendArt> Jordan_U: Bcuz my printer is not compatible but can import images through a card.
[12:41] <Bucket> Okay.
[12:41] <lil-g-man> problem: i cannot record the master volume sound using audacity or any soundrecorder
[12:41] <lassegul> Bucket: the button to add and remove programs is only named Add/Remove, its the one on the bottom of the Applications menu.
[12:41] <erUSUL> Bucket: read the docs abaut dial up and use the device /dev/ttuUSB0
[12:41] <SlimeyPete> !cups
[12:41] <Bucket> But yeh, add or remove programs is kind of important. It's not at the bottom of the applications D;
[12:41] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:41] <ziggy> well this is nice i didn't know this was here for help
[12:41] <Bucket> Sound and video is the last option on that list.
[12:42] <ziggy> i'm glad that ubunto is so user friendly these days good os
[12:42] <ziggy> fusion
[12:42] <ziggy> kopete
[12:42] <ziggy> that i will get
[12:42] <Jordan_U> BlendArt, You could open it in the Gimp and then export it
[12:42] <bandari> .
[12:42] <bandari> exit
[12:43] <BlendArt> Jordan_U: Tried that
[12:43] <AboSamoor> hi, i installed the English-arabic and arabic-english dictionary packages dict-freedict-eng-ara, dict-freedict-ara-eng. how i can use them ?
[12:43] <BlendArt> Jordan_U: It imports are messy and hardly readable
[12:43] <Jordan_U> BlendArt, Did you try changing the import settings?
[12:43] <ziggy> what about running Yahoo or Msn will i be able to have Cam functions and mic Functions or does it not give me that option?
[12:44] <BlendArt> Jordan_U: yep
[12:44] <riniver> is SWT installed by default in feisty fawn?
[12:44] <BlendArt> Jordan_U: they all import differently for some weird reason
[12:44] <erUSUL> ziggy: amsn has webcam support for msn
[12:44] <elmargol> If someone shuffles cards. and an other player takes cards from the top. how do I call this in english?
[12:44] <Bucket> I right clicked on the menu to add add or remove programs to the list, so anyway, I opened that up and there was no add or remove option D;
[12:44] <BlendArt> Jordan_U: gimp gets very unstable
[12:44] <elmargol> can't find it on the dictionary :(
[12:44] <Jordan_U> BlendArt, Did you select Anti-ailiasing for text?
[12:44] <riniver> aMSN seems buggy to  me. i keep getting errors when goign into the preference pages
[12:44] <reizend> AboSamoor: Go to System -> Administration -> Language Support and enable the languages you want to be able to use. At the login screen there is an option to change the language you wish to you use.
[12:44] <ziggy> thanks for the help every one
[12:44] <ziggy> great :)
[12:44] <Bucket> This is on the imported account thing though, this is avaible on another accoutn i have
[12:45] <BlendArt> Jordan_U: uh yep
[12:45] <ziggy> learning quick
[12:45] <TooR4u> Hii .. i have installed gdesklets in faisty .. it is not starting ... the Log file is like this http://pastebin.ca/669052
[12:45] <BlendArt> Jordan_U: Iv used gimp for a long time
[12:45] <TooR4u> any idea ..?
[12:45] <slim> rinriver:- nope
[12:45] <Bucket> k
[12:45] <Bucket> So I'm in add/remove programs now.
[12:45] <Jordan_U> BlendArt, krita seems to do a good job
[12:45] <AboSamoor> reizend, i don't want to change the Interface language i want to get a dictionary for Arabic-English
[12:46] <riniver> Anyone know any Netlimiter clones for Ubuntu? Something to set the maximum upload/dl of each program?
[12:46] <riniver> upload/dl speed rather
[12:46] <Don64> elmargol: cutting the dck?
[12:46] <Don64> *deck
[12:46] <reizend> AboSamoor: ok sorry, I never have done just the dictionary before.
[12:46] <BlendArt> Jordan_U: awesome il check it out
[12:46] <troubled> why is the wiki https only anyways?
[12:47] <slim> rinriver:- bittorrent has it's own upload limiter
[12:47] <riniver> all torrent clients limit their dl speed if you limit your ul speed. the best way to get around that is by usign an external program to artificially limit them
[12:48] <Jordan_U> BlendArt, And krita > The Gimp in many other ways also ... :)
[12:48] <elmargol> Don64: thx
[12:48] <BlendArt> Jordan_U: Thank you! =)
[12:48] <ziggy> amsn is for msn what about yahoo ?
[12:48] <XiXaQ> what was that old website before ubuntu.com? NoNameYet.com or something?
[12:48] <bram__> hey everyone, total noob question: is it possible to in -say- feisty install a single package of gutsy?
[12:48] <SlimeyPete> ziggy: GAIM will do both
[12:48] <JimQode> ziggy, so will kopete
[12:49] <SlimeyPete> !backports
[12:49] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[12:49] <Jordan_U> BlendArt, np
[12:49] <ziggy> yay for both whats better
[12:49] <ziggy>  ?
[12:49] <SlimeyPete> ^^ bram__
[12:49] <lassegul> Bucket: Weird it wasnt there. Now you have to find some cool apps.
[12:49] <slim> rinriver:- I download at 60k/b & upload at 10k/bs
[12:49] <SlimeyPete> (probably your best bet)
[12:49] <t00th> someone use opera 9.23 ? i have some bugs with url adress,when ya click on the end of url it move :\
[12:49] <ziggy> for not getting booted by lamers
[12:49] <ziggy> E: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[12:49] <ziggy> E: redhat-cluster-suite: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:49] <ziggy> E: system-config-cluster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:49] <ziggy> omg
[12:49] <riniver> slim: In Aus we have extremely restrictive dl limits. ISPs such as the one i'm on also count both dl AND ul. Every MB counts. BTW my name is Riniver.
[12:50] <riniver> Need a prog that can limit the ul/dl speed of each program.
[12:50] <bram__> SlimeyPete: thx... I guess uncommenting the backpots in sources should do it right?
[12:50] <SlimeyPete> bram__: should do (then update/reload your source lists)
[12:50] <slim> rinriver:- I'm a Brisbane boy
[12:51] <slim> riniver:- apologies
[12:51] <Jordan_U> ziggy, What were you trying to install?
[12:51] <Bucket> Okay, well, cool apps... I'm sure they are, but it says everyone of them that isn't installed already is not able to be installed on my computer, mebbe this will change when I connect to the internet, Iunno... Either way, to try and connect to the internet from that computer and get my modem working with linux I need to disconnect from here...
[12:52] <RJ_BR> how can I post large amount of text into the channel?
[12:52] <Jordan_U> Bucket, Yes, you need to be connected to the internet to use Add / Remove
[12:52] <bram__> SlimeyPete: sorry to be more noob, but how then do I continue to upgrade only that one package? (sox)
[12:52] <jrib> !paste | RJ_BR
[12:52] <Bucket> okay.
[12:52] <ubotu> RJ_BR: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:52] <faileas>  RJ_BR: you don't :)
[12:52] <lil-g-man> avidemux doesn't support ogg???
[12:52] <Bucket> So, to connect to the internet from my usb modem I need to type ls /dev/ttyUSB* , then what?
[12:53] <ziggy> Ok Big Qustion is it posibal to run Netmeeting for Windows Xp on Linux ????
[12:53] <SlimeyPete> bram__: just do an "aptitude install <package name>"
[12:53] <riniver> slim: So no ideas on a netlmiter clone?
[12:53] <SlimeyPete> sorry, sudo aptitude, bram__
[12:53] <slim> riniver:- default bittorrent app in feisty is Bittorrent Comes with a tab to limit upload speed & number of people that can upload
[12:53] <reon> Can I install Ubuntu of a remotely mounted drive ? My laptop does not seem to like the ubuntu cds
[12:53] <Jordan_U> lil-g-man, avi is a container format, as is ogg, is it even possible to have an ogg within an avi?
[12:54] <bram__> SlimeyPete: apt-cache show sox still shows the old version... would it be it's not contained in the backports?
[12:54] <riniver> slim: I know it comes with a ul and dl speed limiter. 99% of bittorrent clients do. The probelm is if you try to limit your upload speed your download speed is slowed
[12:54] <ziggy> Ok Big Qustion is it posibal to run Netmeeting for Windows Xp on Linux ????
[12:54] <reon> anyone ?
[12:54] <Bucket> k
[12:54] <ziggy> yep
[12:54] <Bucket> I'll try this then
[12:54] <SlimeyPete> bram__: yeah, could be
[12:54] <Bucket> bye
[12:54] <ziggy> nope?
[12:54] <SlimeyPete> not everything is
[12:54] <ziggy> anysuggestions ??
[12:55] <SlimeyPete> bram__: you could change your repos to the gutsy ones, install it, then change back but that's dangerous
[12:55] <slim> riniver:- I never have my download speed limited by my upload speed. Are you with telstra?
[12:55] <SlimeyPete> it could work, or it could completely kill your ubuntu
[12:55] <lassegul> reon: yeah, thats possible, you can do it through ftp, but its kinda complicated.
[12:55] <riniver> slim: yes
[12:55] <bram__> dangerous, not a good idea for now... I thiunk I could probably install from sources of sox...
[12:55] <Jordan_U> ziggy, I think ekiga supports net meeting but I am not sure
[12:55] <bartzitz> hello, how to customize form input tags in cake 1.2? tags.ini.php doesn't seem to work
[12:55] <ziggy> ok thanks for the reply
[12:56] <reon> lassegul, It's the live-cd I got. Got a link to a guide, gonna go nuts here.
[12:56] <Don64> ziggy: http://www.linux.com/base/ldp/howto/NetMeeting-HOWTO/introduction.html
[12:56] <qodosh_> greetings
[12:57] <qodosh_> how does one find out their default gateway address from ubuntu?
[12:57] <ziggy> Thanks all for your help this is great
[12:57] <ziggy> i'm not alone any more on this lmao
[12:57] <reizend> Jordan_U, ziggy: ekiga and netmeeting use the same protocol
[12:57] <slim> riniver:- You have my sympathies. Time to change providers. I got "Wolf Creek" this morning at 60k/ps while returning it at 10k/ps . I'm with supernerd as a provider
[12:57] <RJ_BR> please guys help me solve this problem. I cannot use anymore synaptic because it fires a message (E: Could not open file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - open (13 Permission denied))->
[12:57] <lassegul> reon: this one is a little old but its the same principle. you should find better guides by googling http://mywheel.net/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/ . I would recommend trying the alternate install CD though, its easier if it works
[12:57] <RJ_BR> then I go to the archive usin shell
[12:58] <RJ_BR> consider see the result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34873/
[12:58] <ziggy> alrighty nice meeting every one take it easy and take care peace i'm outtie for now time to go get laid hell yeah
[12:58] <reon> lassegul, thx, I only have the kubuntu alternate cd.
[12:58] <Jordan_U> !install | reon
[12:58] <ubotu> reon: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[12:59] <Jordan_U> reon, You can transform kubuntu into ubuntu pretty easily
[12:59] <ziggy> and by the way my dad works for Microsoft and i'm a linux lover he h eh ehe hehehehehe
[12:59] <ziggy> lmao!!!
[12:59] <yeniklasorr> I cannot mix microfon and "idjc" player voice. Can someone help me ?
[12:59] <Jordan_U> ziggy, If you ever meet Balmer make sure there are't any chairs around
[01:00] <lassegul> reon: then install it, when its installed you can do a  sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop    and later a   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:00] <slim> rjbr:- Try "sudo apt-get" in the terminal
[01:00] <bram__> SlimeyPete: thx for the help!
[01:00] <reizend> RJ_BR: Out of the following, only one can be running at a time: Synaptic, Aptitude, apt-get, add/remove, upgrader just in case that is the problem
[01:00] <RJ_BR> I forgot to say
[01:00] <Jordan_U> reon, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[01:00] <reon> lassegul, got bandwidth restrictions so it is not an option to do a sever install and add gnome desktop.
[01:01] <lil-g-man> ogg to avi???
[01:01] <RJ_BR> I am using edgy into usb flash drive with persistent feature
[01:01] <RJ_BR> using it right now
[01:01] <lassegul> reon: thats lame. then maybe go for the networked install. Didnt look that complex after a second look
[01:02] <Jordan_U> RJ_BR, Are you using the modified image or did they fix the persistence bug with Feisty?
[01:02] <Jordan_U> reon, Do you already have an Ubuntu LiveCD and it just isn't working?
[01:02] <reizend> Jordan_U: I think he said he was using edgy
[01:03] <Jordan_U> reizend, RJ_BR Ahh, misread
[01:03] <TuTUX> anyone use exaile? the alarm plugin seems not working
[01:03] <RJ_BR> I really dont know if there is a bug with this distro... but the more recent one dont have persistent feature for sure
[01:03] <slim> lil-g-man:- Ogg is a sound codec & avi is a video codec. Whatcha trying to do?
[01:04] <reon> Jordan_U I got all my live cd's from shipit. They seem to have gone bad. First I could not access the kubuntu ones, now the ubuntu ones are te same. This happens on multiple machines. I also tried creating an iso of the livecd on a different pc but it ends up with the wrong md5sum.
[01:04] <lil-g-man> slim: i used recordmydesktop and the video file is saved in OGG
[01:04] <ubuntu> um
[01:05] <ku> hey guys i am getting error like this while compiling mysql from source "configure: error: C compiler cannot create execu
[01:05] <ku> tables" can i get some help
[01:05] <slim> lil-g-man:- Sorry - I no nothing on that
[01:05] <lil-g-man> slim: alrighty :D
[01:05] <lil-g-man> slim: thanks anyways
[01:05] <big_bang14> how do i disable clicking buy tapping on a laptop
[01:05] <Jordan_U> reon, Could it be a problem with the drive?
[01:05] <Jordan_U> !synaptics | big_bang14
[01:05] <ubotu> big_bang14: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[01:06] <Jordan_U> reon, If it is you could use the shipit CD to create a bootable USB drive and install from that
[01:06] <lassegul> lil-g-man: i had the same problem, but i was really just checking recordmydesktop out, and i wasnt so impressed, so i never got around to solve it.
[01:06] <ubuntu> anyone know how to change display settings from terminal for kde...I tried to use dual monitors and it totally fed things up...I get a black screen with a blinking cursor where the login screen should be
[01:07] <Jordan_U> ubuntu, #kubuntu for KDE
[01:07] <ku> "configure: error: C compiler cannot create execute tables" how can i get rid of this eror??
[01:07] <reon> Jordan_U nope. Laptop drives are more sensitive but I'm also picking up issues on my desktop drive. Others have reported similair issues with the shipip cds. My Kubuntu Alt cd I burned myslef as well as all my own burns boot fine on all my machines.
[01:07] <TuTUX> anyone use exaile? the alarm plugin seems not working
[01:08] <ubuntu> Nobody there knows...I thought that maybe they would be similar on each environment
[01:08] <lil-g-man> lassegul: did u find a way to capture screen in avi using some other software?
[01:08] <riniver> ku: You need to install gcc i believe
[01:08] <slim> lil-g-man:- Maybe this site will help - http://lifehacker.com/software/featured-linux-download/record-screencasts-with-recordmydesktop-271220.php
[01:08] <TuTUX> anyone use exaile? the alarm plugin seems not working
[01:08] <slim> google is my friend
[01:09] <lassegul> lil-g-man: xvidcap
[01:09] <Jordan_U> ku, What are you trying to compile? Are you sure you need to compile from source?
[01:09] <ku> ya
[01:09] <ku> i am trying to compile mysql from source
[01:09] <reon> lassegul, Jordan_U, would it be possible to do a server install from the kubuntu cd, then add the livecd to the sources list to try and install gnome dm ?
[01:09] <lil-g-man> slim: that's what i'm using, it saves the captured file in ogg only :)
[01:09] <Jordan_U> reon, No
[01:10] <lassegul> Jordan_U: sure? It doesnt sound so far fetched?
[01:10] <reizend> lil-g-man: The Linux Journal had an article about screen video capture a few months back, maybe you can find it online
[01:10] <Jordan_U> ku, install build-essential and run "sudo apt-get build-dep mysql-server"
[01:11] <slim> lil-g-man:- The site says it needs to be paired with gtk... Is that part of what you've got?
[01:11] <lil-g-man> slim: yeah
[01:11] <Bucket> So...
[01:11] <slim> lil-g-man:- gtk means graphical to be basic about it
[01:11] <reon> lassegul, Jordan_U, Might be having some luck, afteer the umpteenth time the cd has booted to the desktop. let me try the installer and see how far I get
[01:12] <Bucket> erUSUL, I tried typing /dev/ttyUSB* and it said "PERMISSION DENIED"
[01:12] <Jordan_U> lassegul, I don't think that the LiveCD can be used as a repository
[01:12] <Bucket> How to make it work D;? This is the only means of internet I have when I am at home.
[01:12] <riniver> In System - Preferences - Sessions i added 'numlockx on' but my numlock doesn't turn on as i hit the login screen. Ideas?
[01:12] <tritoch> can xinetd and inetd run simultaneously?
[01:12] <reizend> lil-g-man: Here it is - http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9716
[01:12] <Jordan_U> Bucket, You need to run the program with sudo
[01:13] <tritoch> i suppose only if inetd forwarded all unforwarded requests to xinetd?
[01:13] <antislash_666> :*
[01:13] <lil-g-man> reizend: thanks
[01:13] <Bucket> Okay, what is that :D?
[01:13] <reizend> lil-g-man: No prob, but I just looked at it and they use recordmydesktop and istanbul as examples both which they say use ogg format
[01:15] <reizend> lig-g-man: it does tell you how to convert it to avi
[01:15] <Jordan_U> Bucket, What command are you running when you get that error?
[01:15] <jrib> riniver: it will only run when you login with that user
[01:15] <riniver> jrib: Is there a way to get numlock turned on by default?
[01:16] <Bucket> I went to terminal and typed /dev/ttyUSB* that was it.
[01:16] <lil-g-man> reizend: i think xvidcap doesn't save in ogg
[01:16] <Jordan_U> !numlock | riniver
[01:16] <ubotu> riniver: To enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[01:16] <jrib> riniver: google for "numlock ubuntu", first hit looks promising
[01:16] <marsje> riniver: isn't this something you do in the BIOS?
[01:17] <gnuskool>  hello world
[01:17] <antislash_666> O:-)
[01:17] <coolwonder> anyone could tell me how to get the pidgin-QQ work?
[01:17] <gnuskool> just checking out irc colour codes :)
[01:18] <reizend> lil-g-man:have you tried it?
[01:18] <coolwonder> anyone could tell me how to get the pidgin-QQ work?
[01:18] <antislash_666> :-o
[01:18] <Pici> gnuskool: This channel is +c color codes and formatting dont work here.
[01:19] <gnuskool> Pici, thanks for that, so you didnt see that in bright luminous green...is that so?
[01:19] <RJ_BR> reizend: when I run Synaptic, I dont run neither Aptitude nor apt-get... but I still see the "bug" of synaptic :(
[01:19] <Pici> gnuskool: correct.
[01:20] <gnuskool> Pici, thanks
[01:21] <adaptr> RJ_BR: what bug would this be ?
[01:21] <reizend> RJ_BR: in the terminal type pstree and see if there is an instance of any of those that didn't quit all the way
[01:21] <reizend> RJ_BR:then pkill <NAME> will kill it
[01:21] <adaptr> oh, lock file - remove it !
[01:21] <RJ_BR> I'll try it
[01:22] <Bucket> Jordan_U, I went to terminal and typed /dev/ttyUSB* that was it.
[01:22] <gnuskool> im trying to use www.ircatwork.com to connect to the ubuntu channel, but had to end up using chatzilla instead, how could I configure ircatwork...anyon eknow??
[01:22] <Jordan_U> Bucket, What directions are you following? What are you trying to do?
[01:23] <Jordan_U> gnuskool, Why not just use xchat?
[01:23] <sherkin> Hi,
[01:23] <riniver> Is there a config file somehwere that i can configure keyboard shortcuts? The Keyboard Shortcuts program in Preferences simply doesn't work
[01:23] <Bucket> http://oozie.fm.interia.pl/pro/huawei-e220/index.html
[01:23] <reizend> gnuskool: me I use gaim
[01:23] <sherkin> I have a problem with a text file, accidentally corrupted
[01:24] <gnuskool> Jordan_U, I'm trying to avoid having to install anything, say for instance your admin locks out all install priviledges, I waana be able to connect from a browser
[01:24] <sherkin> the "file" command says : " ASCII text, with escape sequences"
[01:24] <reizend> gnuskool: gotcha
[01:25] <reizend> gnuskool: did you use irc.freenode.net as the server, #ubuntu as the channel
[01:25] <sherkin> here's some detail
[01:25] <sherkin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34878/
[01:25] <Jordan_U> Bucket, Where does it say to open a terminal and type /dev/ttyUSB* ?
[01:25] <gnuskool> reizend, yeah tried that, port 6667 too but no go
[01:25] <slim> riniver:- Have you gone through main menu-system tools configuration editor?
[01:25] <jrib> riniver: are you using metacity as your window manager (not compiz)?
[01:26] <erUSUL> Bucket: but the file exist?
[01:26] <Bucket> Jordan_U, erUSUL said that according to that site I have the kernel that does not need such workaround, all I have to do is tyope /dev/ttyUSB*, I assumed this mean in terminal.
[01:26] <Bucket> apparently it does, it just says permission denied.
[01:26] <riniver> jrib: How do i tell?
[01:26] <jrib> riniver: did you install compiz?
[01:26] <riniver> slim: Configuration editor isn't in system tools
[01:26] <riniver> jrib: No.
[01:27] <gnuskool> reizend, i get sent to ubuntu proxy users channel instead...
[01:27] <jrib> riniver: by "doesn't work" do you mean it doesn't let you change things or you change them and then you press the shortcut but it does nothing?
[01:27] <Jordan_U> Bucket, Do you see the modem in System -> Preferences -> Networking?
[01:27] <reizend> gnuskool:yea I just did the same thing
[01:27] <erUSUL> Bucket: i said that you have to check if the file exist if it is so then you have to tell the program to configure the dial-up connection that you modem is in /dev/ttyUSB0
[01:28] <erUSUL> !dialup | Bucket
[01:28] <ubotu> Bucket: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[01:28] <slim> riniver:- I'm on feisty and that has a control center to enable that in the menu. What are you using?
[01:28] <riniver> jrib: I  was trying to set lock screen to win+L. As soon as i hit the win key it sets to that key. It won't let me set win+L
[01:28] <RJ_BR> well, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34879/ , the result of pstree seems to show no other instance of synaptic, am I wrong?
[01:28] <reizend> gnuskool:didn't know they did that
[01:28] <Pici> gnuskool: many so-called anonymous web-irc clients are ban-forwarded to a different channel or just banned outright.  We have a bit of a problem with spam/abuse from those clients.
[01:28] <erUSUL> Bucket: read the webpage ubotu told you and choose a method to configure the connection
[01:28] <jrib> !winkey > riniver (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:28] <gnuskool> reizend, may have somethig to do with the cgi script on their site, does anyone know any browser based irc applets?
[01:28] <tritoch> apt-get remove has failed to remove quite a few inetd files
[01:29] <Pici> !proxy | gnuskool
[01:29] <ubotu> gnuskool: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[01:29] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[01:29] <gnuskool> Pici, know another way i could do this with a browser?
[01:29] <Pici> gnuskool: I do not.
[01:30] <tritoch> the unixgu.ru link in the second half of that ubotu message is dead
[01:30] <Jordan_U> RJ_BR, Did a package manager crash recently?
[01:30] <Jordan_U> tritoch, Not for me
[01:30] <Benni_Baermann> hello! i cant switch to terminal-mode any more via ALT-CTRL-F* , any hints?
[01:31] <Jordan_U> tritoch, Oh, nvm, I just actually looked at it :)
[01:31] <reizend-test> gnuskool: you there
[01:31] <gnuskool> reizend-test. yeah
[01:32] <reizend-test> gnuskool: good, I remembered that java applets can use the network like a normal application so I found one
[01:32] <lil-g-man> reizend: haven't tried it yet
[01:32] <reizend-test> gnuskool:www.jwirc.com
[01:32] <gnuskool> reizend-test, good on ya mate, where is it?
[01:33] <reizend> gnuskool:ok I am back here now
[01:33] <gnuskool> reizend-test,thanks
[01:33] <lil-g-man> i've got a very stupid question, since i'm a newbie... how do i install linux programs that i just happen to find on the net... as in they are not in the add/remove list???
[01:33] <sach1> hello
[01:33] <Cin> what's that app called that does sudo but graphically?
[01:33] <tritoch> lil-g-man: it depends heavily on the program
[01:33] <Cin> gtk sudo something or other
[01:34] <tritoch> Cin: gksudo
[01:34] <reizend> Cin: gksu
[01:34] <Bucket> Ummm...
[01:34] <Cin> ahhhh
[01:34] <riniver> jrib: Where it says /apps/metacity is that /usr/lib64/metacity? I just have a single file with a weird icon in there. I don't have a /apps directory
[01:34] <Cin> cheers
[01:34] <Bucket> I h8 linux ;____;
[01:34] <gnuskool> lil-g-man, I go into synaptic manager and search the name just to make sure their not there, if they're not you gonna have to do a source install
[01:35] <reizend> lil-g-man: or if you find a .deb package you can do try to install that but it may not work if it doesn't have all the dependencies
[01:35] <sach1> hello, sorry i'm new to ubuntu and i'm stuck, i'm install feisty on my dell inspiron 1505e, and i want to have my home folder on a seperate partition from the start, can someone please help me, thx
[01:35] <Jordan_U> lil-g-man, What application?
[01:35] <reizend> lil-g-man: you can also use a program called alien to convert an .rpm to a .deb but results vary
[01:35] <slim> lil-g-man:- Synaptic seems to hold more than "add/remove"
[01:35] <ziggy_> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
[01:36] <ziggy_> linux just owned me lmao
[01:36] <lil-g-man> jordan_U: for example xvidcap
[01:36] <Jordan_U> sacater, Just do manual partitioning, just create the partition for home and set the mountpoint to "/home"
[01:36] <lil-g-man> jordan_u: xvidcap from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=81535&package_id=83761
[01:36] <ziggy_> so you where right Berly does Screw up
[01:36] <sach1> can some please point me to a good simple and easy link for this topic
[01:37] <sach1> (hello, sorry i'm new to ubuntu and i'm stuck, i'm install feisty on my dell inspiron 1505e, and i want to have my home folder on a seperate partition from the start, can someone please help me, thx)
[01:37] <kauer> Jordan_U: thanks fo rthe suggestion to set shortcut keys, but that's not the problem. The volume control buttons still work fine. The problem is just that there is now no visible little volume bar popping up as it used to. The volume controls still work fine though.
[01:37] <RJ_BR> Jordan_U: I used the synaptic package manager for 2 to 3 times before it started to complain... weird, and now I cant install more packages :-/
[01:37] <tritoch> sach1: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[01:37] <sach1> yes thx
[01:37] <sach1> i saw that one already
[01:38] <sach1> but i need it from the start
[01:38] <Jordan_U> RJ_BR, If you are absolutely sure that there are no other applications open that use dpkg ( if you are not then restart ) then delete the lock file manually
[01:38] <sach1> i am installing fresh now
[01:38] <riniver> slim: I'm on Feisty but no Configuration Editor in System Tools.
[01:39] <Jordan_U> sach1, Do you know how to use the manual partitioning option in the installer?
[01:39] <sach1> yes a little
[01:39] <sach1> i just need to know how to have home and system seperate from the start
[01:39] <lil-g-man> if i download some prorgrams in tar.gz how could i install'em?
[01:39] <sach1> 120GB laptop harddrive
[01:39] <D3B14N> riniver;   sudo apt-get install -y gconf-editor
[01:40] <Jordan_U> sach1, Do you know how to create the separate partition?
[01:40] <avis> sach swap, double your memory, 15GB for / which ext3 would be good then the rest on /home
[01:40] <sach1> ah um not really
[01:40] <sach1> i thought ubuntu would do that automatically
[01:40] <tritoch> lil-g-man: untar them (man tar) and there will probably be a README or INSTALL inside for you to read
[01:40] <RJ_BR> Is possible deleting this pkgcache.bin mess even more my system?
[01:41] <tritoch> sach1: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p14.htm
[01:41] <Heini67> hi @ all. i've got a problem with feisty/gutsy and my SiS645dx based p4 notebook and the thermal.ko. seems that it reads wrong value's, my system shut's always down with a critical cpu temp alert. if i unload the modul, system is working,cpu isn't getting hotter than about 60C. any idea or solution?
[01:42] <sach1> thank you
[01:42] <sach1> :)
[01:42] <Zenton> hi all
[01:42] <RJ_BR> well... I'll do anyway and see the result :P
[01:42] <jrib> riniver: in "gconf-editor"
[01:42] <lil-g-man> tritoch: thanks i'll try that
[01:42] <Whiz2> anyone here know how to run a program every time X starts, but before kde logs in?
[01:42] <slim> riniver:- Go to control center & there is an entry for the main menu to get that option
[01:42] <jrib> riniver: just type 'gconf-editor' in a terminal
[01:42] <Zenton> when I try something like   xclock -display ubuntu_machine:0 it never works, but it works on my debian system, can anyone give a clue?
[01:43] <sach1> oh ok, no nope, no windows anymore i finally junked it, i wanna go all the way 120 gb ubuntu, my problem is how can i seperate HOME and system
[01:43] <Pici> Zenton: Try setting display before using the command.
[01:43] <Whiz2> the program in question requires that X starts first
[01:43] <Jordan_U> Whiz2, in your startx script or xinitrc
[01:43] <Pici> Zenton: like `DISPLAY=ubuntu_machine:0 xclock`
[01:43] <Whiz2> where is xinitrc? does that apply to a dapper release?
[01:44] <Whiz2> where is startx?
[01:44] <Whiz2> no... wait.. X must already be running
[01:44] <kauer> Jordan_U: I just rebooted and the pop-up volume display is back. I hate that.  And I really hate it when a reboot fixes things.
[01:44] <Zenton> Pici: it didn't work, but worked localy with localhost or ubuntu_machine ip, but never executing xclock in another machine.
[01:45] <slim> sach1:- A reinstall will let you do that if you are going to give all your hard drive to ubuntu
[01:45] <sach1> ok slowly please, i'm new
[01:45] <tritoch> whiz2: basically, when installing, use the manual partition setting, set up your partitions, and set the 'mount point' for the partition you want to /home
[01:45] <sach1> ok ok
[01:45] <Pici> Zenton: You want it to display on an xserver on another computer? One that you arent connected to?
[01:46] <Whiz2> tritoch: that isn't even close to what I'm asking
[01:46] <sach1> i need to understand that
[01:46] <tritoch> oops
[01:46] <tritoch> s/whiz2/sach1
[01:46] <Pici> Whiz2: What are you trying to run?
[01:46] <Whiz2> I'm trying to run vncserver as me including my environment every time X itself runs
[01:47] <Zenton> Pici: I want to display it on an ubuntu Xserver, executing it from another machine.
[01:47] <sach1> i have the feisty alternative install disc
[01:47] <Whiz2> X MUST be running, because vncserver creates an X session
[01:47] <Whiz2> this needs to happen before KDE logs in
[01:48] <reizend> Zenton: you can use ssh -X and a program run then will pass the X display to you, but it has to be enabled on the server
[01:48] <riniver> jrib: the lock screen one doesn't appear anywhere in metacity folders. I set it to Super R so i could find it in the lost but none had naything like that
[01:48] <slim> sach1:- Don't forget ,with 120 gig a root partion of 10 gig (/) + a partion for home of the size you want
[01:48] <kauer> Whiz2: Just tp clarify: You want xloxk to run on a different machine (a remote machine), you want it to run as you, and lock the x server on that remote machine?
[01:48] <Zenton> Pici: it works correcty when I use a debian sid as a Xserver but does not when I use an Ubuntu as Xserver.
[01:48] <Whiz2> errr....i dunno?
[01:48] <Pici> Zenton: Did what reizend said make sense?
[01:48] <jrib> riniver: then make a new command (someone was looking for it the other day as well and we couldn't find it) that does 'gnome-screensaver-command --lock'
[01:48] <Whiz2> here lemme put it this way...
[01:49] <sach1> aaaah, this is freaking me out, by the time i get to read it and it sinks in my head the text keeps moving
[01:49] <kauer> Whiz2: Sorry, wrong guy :-)
[01:49] <reizend> sach1: welcome to irc
[01:49] <riniver> jrib: Any specific folder? Is this the equivalent of the Windows registry?
[01:49] <Zenton> Pici: I usually export X without using ssh on my lan, but gonna try, thanks.
[01:49] <Jordan_U> Zenton, You really shouldn't set the display for remote x applications anyways, it is insecure
[01:49] <Whiz2> kauer: in my linux machine, whenever X server starts, I want vncserver to execute with my credentials, and my environment automatically
[01:50] <sach1> can i plase please talk with some one on a seperate little window
[01:50] <reizend> Zenton: that is what I usually do, unless I need the entire session in X
[01:50] <Whiz2> otherwise, i have to ssh into the linux machine, and run it manually
[01:50] <jrib> riniver: some dir under /apps/metacity lets you setup custom commands and then you can bind run_command_1 in keybindings.  Yes and no
[01:50] <Tulip> #ubeda
[01:51] <Zenton> Jordan_U: my idea is exporting gnome-panel.
[01:51] <Jordan_U> Whiz2, Why not just use the built in function with System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[01:51] <Jordan_U> Zenton, Why?
[01:51] <Benni_Baermann> is there a way to configure keyboard again in the same manner as during installation?
[01:52] <NETabuse> I have my main desktop machine dual booted with xp64 and ubuntu, is it possible to load up my xp64 partition under a vm somehow?
[01:52] <Zenton> Jordan_U: to have available all my server applications easily on another desktop.
[01:52] <NETabuse> I don't see a way obviously under virtual box
[01:52] <niru> I have installed debian
[01:52] <niru> I have a acer power series machine
[01:52] <Jordan_U> NETabuse, I think it is possible but not trivial
[01:52] <reizend> Benni_Baermann: have you tried System -> Preferences -> Keyboard or is that not what you are looking for?
[01:52] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: doesn't that require me to login to kde?
[01:53] <slim> sach1:- Pen to hand - When installing the partition editor gives you options. Make a root partition ( / ) of 10g and a ( /home ) partition of the size you want. The editor will give you those options
[01:53] <niru> intel pentium D
[01:53] <niru> Realtek RTL8169/8110
[01:53] <niru> ethernet NIC
[01:53] <Jordan_U> Whiz2, Not if you setup automatic login
[01:53] <niru> but I am unable to use inernet
[01:53] <niru> how to solve this issue
[01:53] <niru> I am using 2.6.21-1-486 kernel
[01:53] <Pici> niru: You are running Ubuntu or Debian?
[01:54] <Benni_Baermann> reizend: no, i am searching for a way to configure again with try and error as during installation
[01:54] <reizend> !enter | niru
[01:54] <ubotu> niru: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:54] <cristi01> how do i set the maximum resolution in ubuntu?
[01:54] <cristi01> i have an on-board graphics card
[01:54] <Pici> !fixres > cristi01 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[01:54] <cristi01> Pici: ok, thanks
[01:54] <reizend> Benni_Baermann: I thought that is what you were thinking, unfortunately I have no idea there
[01:54] <Pici> Benni_Baermann: `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` will give you the all the xorg options you configured, including keyboard, mouse, and video settings.
[01:55] <reizend> Pici, nice I didn't think of that
[01:55] <cristi01> salut asfalt
[01:55] <niru> reizend, ok
[01:55] <niru> ubotu, ok
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <Benni_Baermann> Pici: I know that, but thats not what i am searching for (see my answer to reizend)
[01:55] <niru> I am using  debian  Pici
[01:56] <niru> but upgraded by kernel to 2.6.21-1-486
[01:56] <kauer> Whiz2: For what it's worth, I think autosharing your desktop is a bad idea, and autologin is a VERY bad idea.
[01:56] <Pici> niru: This is the Ubuntu support channel. You will need to seek Debian help elsewhere.  Pehaps in #debian.
[01:56] <kauer> Whiz2: Could you perhaps tell us why you want the VNC server running before you have even logged in?
[01:57] <niru> Pici,ok but any suggestions
[01:57] <Pici> niru: Nope, sorry.
[01:57] <niru> how can I make it work.The same you might be doing for ubuntu as well
[01:57] <GvX> i have a rather big problem :s
[01:57] <Pici> niru: We don't really support custom built kernels here.
[01:58] <RJ_BR> this may appear silly, but, how can I delete this file, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34880/  , sudo dont work!
[01:58] <anto> Heya
[01:58] <Pici> Benni_Baermann: The command I gave you will run through the setup of the keyboard/video/mouse just like it does on the alternate installer.
[01:58] <anto> when i use my S-Video output for my TV box it only works untill i reach the login panel, how to i enable it after that??
[01:58] <reizend> !ask | GvX
[01:58] <ubotu> GvX: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:58] <gnuskool> cristi01, i set maximum resolution on my nboard sis5596 onboard card. it only has 4MB shared video RAm but it worked fine, I did try it on different ones just for optimal performance though
[01:59] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: the feature you're talking about doesn't appear to be part of the dapper release
[01:59] <Benni_Baermann> Pici: I know that, because i run throug it several times now, but i search for a possibility to try the config on the fly such as is in the normal installation-routine
[01:59] <anto> when i use my S-Video output for my TV box it only works untill i reach the login panel, how to i enable it after that??
[01:59] <ziggy_> BIG QUSTION WHERE CAN I FIND fusion and a walk thro step by step on how to install it for ubuntu because i'm new to linux
[01:59] <kauer> Whiz2: Could you perhaps tell us why you want the VNC server running before you have even logged in? And, when you say "start it manually" how exactly do you do that?
[02:00] <gnuskool> ziggy, what is fusion, just curious
[02:00] <ziggy_> kinda like Berly
[02:00] <Jordan_U> ziggy, If you are new to linux you might not want to run Compiz Fusion yet, it is not finished and still has many bugs
[02:00] <GvX> i have just reconfigured X to use fglrx but in doing so the key mapping changed. i've set it back to a uk keymap now, but sudo/passwd etc... won't authenticate :(
[02:00] <Pici> Benni_Baermann: As far as I know, there isn't a way to go through the graphical keyboard setup.
[02:00] <reizend> !compix | ziggy
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <reizend> !compiz | ziggy
[02:00] <ubotu> ziggy: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:00] <Whiz2> kauer: vnc creates a X desktop session for the purpose od remotely controlling the desktop. I never actually login which is why I want to start it before KDE logs in... by starting manually I mean I have to SSH into the PC, and run it from thecommand line as me
[02:01] <ziggy_> yeah your right but berly is acting up on me
[02:01] <Benni_Baermann> Pici: Thanks
[02:01] <GvX> any ideas?
[02:01] <Pici> !beryl | ziggy_
[02:01] <ubotu> ziggy_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:01] <Jordan_U> ziggy, Try Compiz then, it is stable
[02:02] <ziggy_> will i have the same effecs ???
[02:02] <GvX> :s