[05:48] <dooglus> is it possible to take a 'snapshot' of a frame of mplayer video?  it comes out blank when I try, due to the use of an overlay...
[05:48] <goo_> cb: ah, it's a hackpack. I can actually suspend-to-ram without any other hacks than acpid, but maybe I could get suspend to disk to work properly with that hibernate package...
[05:48] <dooglus> keikoz: su isn't enough if you don't have the root password
[05:48] <goo_> cb: nice tips, thanks :)
[05:48] <tritium> farid, Jowi:  you can use sudo -i
[05:48] <farid> Jowi, I wrote "sudo su" then I pressed enter. then I wrote "farid" and it said farid: command not found
[05:48] <keikoz> ah yes in this case, sure
[05:48] <albertooo> hello all
[05:48] <tritium> keikoz: and root account is disabled by default
[05:48] <Jowi> tritium: same thing
[05:49] <Jowi> tritium: just habits i guess :)
[05:49] <Frafra> when i try to set the user it return to the same passage. help me, please! it doesn't give any error :(
[05:49] <Jowi> farid: in the terminal, does it have a "#" before you type?
[05:49] <keikoz> but he anyway needs an account root tu su
[05:49] <keikoz> to*
[05:50] <farid> Jowi, yes it does. And it says "root" in the beginning, so I guess I have root access
[05:50] <Jowi> keikoz: nope. only need to be in the /etc/sudoers file
[05:50] <Jowi> farid: great. so now you should be able to access your windows drive
[05:50] <keikoz> bah ... i dont like that sudo
[05:50] <xagoln> are the Breezy repos broken today? more specifically the pkgs?  I am trying to 'apt-get upgrade' and getting an error processing x-common_1.08_all.deb
[05:50] <xagoln> are the Breezy repos broken today? more specifically the pkgs?  I am trying to 'apt-get upgrade' and getting an error processing x-common_1.08_all.deb
[05:50] <xagoln> "trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/X11/fonts' which is also in package xfonts-base
[05:50] <farid> Jowi, it's still unaccessible. :(
[05:50] <farid> Jowi, it has a red cross over the folder icon
[05:50] <Jowi> farid. yes. but.
[05:50] <tritium> xagoln: you know breezy is in active development, right?
[05:51] <xagoln> tritium yes
[05:51] <Jowi> farid: in the terminal: "cd /media/windows" <enter> . and then "ls"
[05:51] <gm78> xagoln: Breezy is still being developed....they don't guarantee it won't break.
[05:51] <farid> Jowi, permission denied
[05:52] <Jowi> farid: huh?
[05:52] <xagoln> I removed xfonts-base and it seems to be rconfiguring every package on my system now
[05:52] <farid> Jowi, wait up. it seems like i have to write sudo su again
[05:52] <farid> Jowi, ahh
[05:52] <farid> now
[05:52] <farid> :D
[05:52] <farid> thanks bon jovi!
[05:53] <Belutz> wew
[05:53] <Jowi> farid: what you type in a terminal is not reflected on what you see on your desktop. being "root" in a terminal does not give you root permissions in gnome for example.
[05:53] <Belutz> firefox 1.0.7 is available for hoary just now
[05:53] <Jowi> farid: you're welcome man
[05:53] <leopard> xagoln: I think they are broken...doesn't seem to affect my system other than being a bit annoying. I'm sure they'll have it patched in a few hours.
[05:54] <farid> Jowi, I see. What can I do to be root in gnome? Im not used to work in a terminal environment and I haven't learnt all commands yet
[05:54] <cb> goo_: bah, it sleeps without any problems but the screen doesn't come on after resuming :(
[05:54] <tritium> farid: you're encouraged to use sudo when necessary
[05:54] <gm78> Belutz: yeah...secunia rated the firefox command line flaw extremely critical (highest rating)....it didnt work all of the time though
[05:55] <farid> tritium, whats sudo? ;)
[05:55] <Jowi> farid: you should get used to only using "sudo" when you really need it. for daily tasks, stick with logging in as a user. so the best thing is to give users permissions on a need-only basis.
[05:55] <Jowi> farid: it is not recommended to use gnome as root
[05:56] <tritium> !tell farid about rootsudo
[05:56] <goo_> cb: tried hitting Fn-<the key you use for switching between LCD and CRT> ?
[05:56] <Belutz> gm78: i see
[05:56] <goo_> cb: that's a trick that is said to light up the screen on some laptops
[05:56] <tritium> farid: please read that URL
[05:57] <farid> will do, tritium. :) Thanks!
[05:57] <Frafra> (:)
[05:57] <Jowi> thnks tritium
[05:57] <Jemt> Does anyone know how I place ie. gkrellm in the top right corner of my Fluxbox Slit ?
[05:57] <farid> Jowi, so I should only 'sudo su' when I'm for example mounting a drive or compiling software?
[05:57] <Jemt> When I fire up
[05:57] <tritium> :)
[05:57] <flint_> here is a sudo question.  does the sudo group have cups adminstration rights?
[05:57] <Jemt> When I fire up 'gkrellm -w &' it starts in my bottom right corner
[05:58] <Jowi> farid: yeah. but compiling software need not to be root. only installing it :)
[05:58] <cb> goo_: worth a try i guess
[05:58] <cb> goo_: doing a bit of googling before trying again though
[05:58] <tritium> flint_: the sudoers are in the admin group, and yes, they do have cups admin rights
[05:58] <goo_> cb: yeah, all those hard resets gives bad karma :)
[05:58] <cyphase> hmm
[05:58] <farid> Jowi, gotcha! Just tell me this last thing. What is the command for opening files? How can open an image with e.g Gimp?
[05:58] <Belutz> Jemt: enable 'set sticky state' in the options
[05:58] <corvid> someone know what could be blocking ports in hoary? cant ping the computer or anything. cleaned iptables, no firewall running...
[05:59] <cyphase> it keeps telling me the package mozilla-firefox is trying to overwrite firefox
[05:59] <goo_> But I have a raid to initialize... bye now
[05:59] <Jowi> farid: "gimp filename" should do it
[05:59] <tritium> farid: keep in mind that there are ~17,000 package for ubuntu.  The chance of you needing to compile your own is small
[05:59] <cb> goo_: lol, too right
[06:00] <Elko> tritium: after using ubuntu for 3 days, I missed xv
[06:00] <farid> Jowi, gimp <filename>; should that be with the full path (gimp \media\windows\documents and settings\ yada yada \my pictures\image.jpg) ?
[06:00] <flint_> tritium: thanks, I just tried it and it did not work on a copy of hoary....
[06:00] <tritium> Elko: xv, wow, that's a blast from the past
[06:00] <flint_> tritium, the fact that it is supposed to work is a great comfort.
[06:00] <tritium> flint_: tried what?
[06:01] <Belutz> farid: yes, i think it should be the full path of the file
[06:01] <Sevn> Anyone use Cedega?
[06:01] <Belutz> farid: unless, the file is in your working directory
[06:02] <Jowi> farid: in linux, replace "\" with "/"
[06:02] <tritium> flint_: what did you try that did not work?
[06:02] <farid> Belutz, and I know that it's in my working directory when I have the path right before the # in the terminal window?
[06:03] <Belutz> farid: yes, it suppose
[06:03] <farid> Jowi, Thanks for the info. :) And big thanks for all your help; I'll be reading the Wiki and return for questions. ;)
[06:03] <JDahl> farid, you can always type 'pwd' in a terminal
[06:03] <Sevn> I was wondering if I'll get lower-quality or worse frames in Counter STrike Source with Cedega.
[06:03] <farid> Belutz, cheers. :)
[06:03] <Sevn> Vs Windows
[06:03] <Belutz> yes, pwd is good :)
[06:03] <tritium> hi JDahl
[06:03] <farid> JDahl, great tip. :)
[06:04] <JDahl> hi tritium
[06:04] <Steelingbox> Wondering how I can get video to play inside firefox without installing mplayer
[06:04] <Ruslan> Can I connect to internet with this modem http://www.usr-emea.com/support/s-prod-template.asp?loc=russ&prod=oem#2974?
[06:04] <Jowi> farid. one thing that is very useful in the terminal is tabcompletion. so instead of typing looooong filenames, try to type the beginning of the directory/filename and press <tab>. i need to be aaway for awhile now
[06:05] <flabby> where is the kernel source located?  It's not in /usr/src/linux.
[06:05] <tritium> flabby: did you install a linux-source package?
[06:05] <farid> Jowi_away, thats great to know. Thanks for your effort! :)
[06:05] <flabby> tritium: nope
[06:05] <tritium> flabby: don't expect something that you did not install to be there ;)
[06:05] <flint_> tritium, I tried logging in to the cups adminstration panel as a sudoer.  It does not appear to let me in.
[06:05] <AngryParsley> wow, lots of updates in breezy today
[06:06] <robbkidd> flabby: Take a look at the output of "dpkg -L [kernel|linux] -source-<version>"
[06:06] <robbkidd> flabby: Ah. And, as tritium suggests, install the source.
[06:06] <tritium> flint_: oh, localhost:631?  That's disabled by default
[06:06] <flabby> trtium is there an apt-get command that I can use?
[06:06] <tritium> flabby: yes, do you want the source to the kernel you're running?
[06:07] <tritium> flabby: sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`, if your answer is yes
[06:07] <flint_> tritium no, I used the machine name explicitly, I keep a host table.  If localhost is disabled by default, how do you to printer administration?
[06:07] <flabby> tritium: probably, i really don't know.  I try to install the alsa driver and it want a path for the kernel source when i run ./configure
[06:07] <tritium> flabby: keep in mind if you're compiling a module or something similar, you really only need linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:08] <flabby> Man i have bad grammer lol
[06:08] <tritium> flint_: typically through the gnome print tool
[06:08] <tritium> flabby: you only need the headers, then
[06:08] <flabby> tritium: alsa headers?
[06:09] <Ruslan> flabby .h -files
[06:09] <tritium> flabby: no, kernel headers (in linux-headers-`uname -r`)
[06:09] <flint_> tritium gotcha, i will try that.  thanks...
[06:10] <farid> Does ubuntu have an msn client?
[06:10] <pw> yes
[06:10] <pw> It come with GAIM
[06:11] <Xareum> hello, I copy the source.list with the backports sources from the unoficial guide but when i search with apt-cache serach w32codecs, this isn't. What happen? Sorry for my english
[06:11] <farid> pw, I thought GAIM was AIM only. I'll try that :) Thanks
[06:11] <Belutz> Xareum:  w32codecs not available anymore in ubuntu repositories
[06:11] <flabby> So would my configure command be something like:  ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-kernel=`uname -r` ?
[06:11] <pw> it has like 7 lients
[06:11] <JDahl> farid, it has several, but gaim is probably the most popular. There is also amsn which looks and feels very similar to MSN
[06:11] <Elko> farid: there is also amsn
[06:12] <Xareum> Belutz, ok thanks, I have to use unoficial repositories?
[06:12] <Belutz> gaim is better, imho
[06:12] <mon> !tell Xareum about w32codecs
[06:12] <mon> i think :)
[06:12] <Xareum> thanks ;)
[06:13] <Belutz> yup, read what ubotu told you :)
[06:13] <brodmann> hey, i'm using 5.04, but when i install ati drivers, x system won't work
[06:13] <tritium> brodmann: ubuntu packages for fglrx?
[06:13] <farid> JDahl, I guess amsn requires extra effort? downloading and installing
[06:14] <JDahl> farid, I dont think so (it might be in universe, though)
[06:14] <Belutz> brodmann: there's a step by step method in the ubuntu forums
[06:14] <farid> JDahl, universe?
[06:14] <JDahl> farid, but I also think that gaim is the best IM client for linux
[06:14] <tritium> brodmann: please tell me you followed the wiki instructions, and used ubuntu packages...
[06:14] <bystander> !tell farid about repos
[06:14] <brodmann> yes
[06:14] <othernoob> JDahl: what about sim icq?
[06:14] <bystander> !info amsn
[06:14] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[06:14] <tritium> !ati
[06:14] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[06:14] <tritium> those ones?
[06:15] <JDahl> othernoob, I dont know that package
[06:15] <brodmann> i have to use the hoaryhedgehog binaryhowto
[06:15] <brodmann> right
[06:15] <tritium> in what way does that not work for you, brodmann ?
[06:15] <othernoob> JDahl: i find that it's superior in many ways
[06:16] <brodmann> well, when ubuntu restarts, it says the gdm settings need to be corrected
[06:16] <brodmann> the x system won't start
[06:16] <tritium> brodmann: check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:16] <Belutz> tritium: i was referring to this post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495 but maybe that post ubotu just said is more better
[06:17] <Leshrac> is there any way to read a webpage with the xserver turned off?
[06:17] <tritium> Belutz: not sure about the forums, I always advise the wiki page.  Thanks for the info :)
[06:17] <Belutz> tritium: yup, i always read the wiki first, but sometimes the forums is more helpfull
[06:18] <mon> Leshrac: try links
[06:18] <Leshrac> lynx, thanks
[06:18] <tritium> Belutz: please feel free to improve the wiki where you can
[06:18] <corvid> need to free up some space on the computer rid of gnome etc.  apt-get remove ubuntu-destop telling me it will only free up 32mb.. seems like it should free up more than that
[06:18] <Belutz> tritium: will do :)
[06:18] <tritium> thanks, Belutz
[06:19] <mon> corvid: apt-get remove gnome* ?
[06:19] <Belutz> tritium: don't thank me, it's what communities are for :)
[06:19] <g0rd0n> im trying to play some videos, but whatever video im trying to open (mpeg, avi, asf)  totem complains about missing plugins... but cant find any plugins for totem in the package manager... what should i do?
[06:19] <farid> Ok. So I have done some research, and I have come to the conclusion that differs between upper and lower case.
[06:19] <tritium> yep :)
[06:19] <mon> g0rd0n: totem-xine works better for me, also:
[06:19] <Belutz> farid: *nix system is case sensitive :)
[06:19] <brind1> how do I get my display over 1024 x 768 ?
[06:19] <mon> !tell g0rd0n about w32codecs
[06:20] <xagoln> !tell me about vesa
[06:20] <tritium> mon's favorite ;)
[06:20] <farid> Belutz, itll take some time to get used to that. ;)
[06:20] <brodmann> tritium, ok, i'll start from the beginning, when i run the code, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx, i get couldn't find that package
[06:20] <mon> i learned new tricks today ;)
[06:20] <Belutz> farid: you'll get used to it, i promise
[06:20] <Belutz> :D
[06:20] <xagoln> methinks we should teach ubotu about vesa
[06:20] <tritium> brodmann: that's a bad start, yeah.  You need to get that installed
[06:20] <g0rd0n> oh
[06:20] <brodmann> ah, ooooohhh, gosh
[06:21] <brodmann> stupid
[06:21] <xagoln> can anyone give me the quick run-down on getting X11 working with vesa?
[06:21] <g0rd0n> i might have problems because im using amd64 then :P
[06:21] <atob> Archosaurs are awesome.
[06:21] <brodmann> i'll be right back
[06:21] <g0rd0n> thanks for the info
[06:21] <brind1> hi anyone , display at 1280 x 1024
[06:21] <mon> brind1: explain your problem :)
[06:21] <atob> Who here likes archosaurs?
[06:22] <atob> Fair enough.
[06:22] <brind1> I can edit the xorg.conf and put in the display modes of 1280 x 1024 but I cannot get that mode to display only as high as 1024 x 768
[06:22] <tritium> atob: talk them up to your heart's content there :)
[06:22] <mon> brind1: you sure your hardware supports it?
[06:22] <Belutz> brodmann: i recommend using proprietary drivers from ati if you're using 3D a lot, if not, xorg-driver-fglrx is fine
[06:22] <mon> brind1: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:22] <brind1> yup I run winXP at that res 85Hz
[06:22] <brodmann> tritium, where do i find that package?
[06:23] <Jowi> brind1: easiest way is to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:23] <brodmann> xorg
[06:23] <mon> brind1: what videocard do you have with what driver?
[06:23] <tritium> good advice, Jowi :)
[06:23] <Jowi> !resolutions
[06:23] <ubotu> Jowi: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:23] <Jowi> !fixresolution
[06:23] <ubotu> Jowi: I don't know
[06:23] <Jowi> what IS the command again?
[06:23] <mon> !resolution
[06:23] <ubotu> well, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:23] <mon> ?
[06:23] <mon> :)
[06:24] <Jowi> haha
[06:24] <tritium> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:24] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: (Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators), section restricted/misc, is optional. Version: 6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11 (hoary), Packaged size: 3110 kB, Installed size: 9940 kB
[06:24] <mon> i think ubotu is my new best friend :p
[06:24] <tritium> it's in restricted, brodmann.  See above
[06:24] <xagoln> anyone seen this before:  VESA(0): cannot read V_BIOS
[06:24] <xagoln> that's what happens when I try to use vesa driver
[06:24] <mon> xagoln: maybe google has...
[06:26] <xagoln> mon unfortunately I can't get X up to use google
[06:26] <xagoln> mon guess I can struggle with lynx tho
[06:27] <tritium> xagoln: please be sure to try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:27] <mon> xagoln: ah i've had similar problems with my ati back in the ol' days :)
[06:27] <graabein> hi guys
[06:27] <tritium> ati?  Do you need fglrx, xagoln ?
[06:27] <mon> xagoln: links is a better btw
[06:27] <Belutz> tritium: is it ok to write in wiki about proprietary drivers?
[06:27] <mon> tritium: dont think so, it's just that i had problems with 'm
[06:28] <xagoln> thanks tritium - already tried that
[06:28] <xagoln> it's a dualhead system (Intel 815 and ATI Rage Pro XL)
[06:28] <mon> xagoln: what chipset is it?
[06:28] <mon> ah
[06:28] <mon> xagoln: there are drivers for those i think. no need to use vesa
[06:28] <tritium> Belutz: well, we already do.  Please don't suggest using drivers off of ati's or nvidia's site, though.  Ubuntu packages should be used
[06:28] <xagoln> i815 is the primary (on mainboard)
[06:28] <xagoln> yeah when I use the i810 driver the system locks solid
[06:29] <Belutz> tritium: i see, ok
[06:29] <mon> xagoln: anything in the logs?
[06:29] <minholi> firefox 1.0.7 is broked?
[06:29] <tritium> Belutz: was that what you wanted to do?
[06:29] <Belutz> tritium: yes
[06:29] <Belutz> minholi: how it is broke?
[06:29] <minholi> after the upgrade i was able to run it only by using 'sudo mozilla-firefox'
[06:30] <mon> xagoln: i think the i810 driver should just work. maybe you could file a bugreport then
[06:30] <tritium> Belutz: if you did, someone would surely remove it
[06:30] <mon> minholi: maybe you should delete/move your profile
[06:30] <Belutz> tritium: i haven't write it yet, i ask you first :)
[06:30] <othernoob> any other way to find out the scsi id of a burner than using cdrecord -scanbus?
[06:31] <Belutz> minholi: my firefox 1.0.7 runs fine
[06:31] <minholi> Belutz, mon, first it conflicts with firefox package (the new package was named mozilla-firefox)
[06:31] <mon> othernoob: if it's your system, you kinda should know :)
[06:31] <mon> minholi: where did you get a "firefox" package?
[06:31] <mjr> othernoob, if it's an IDE burner, it has none and should not have any
[06:31] <tritium> othernoob: you can specify dev=ATAPI:, for one thing
[06:31] <xagoln> nothing jumping out at mehmm looks like it's a problem with X fonts
[06:32] <mjr> dev=/dev/hdc (or whatever)
[06:32] <hussam> I'm getting timeouts on archive.ubuntu.com when it resolves to <IP_ADDRESS>, It timeouts every single time.  <IP_ADDRESS> is still however accessible.
[06:32] <othernoob> okay..
[06:32] <hussam> what could be the problem?
[06:32] <minholi> mon, from update service
[06:32] <Belutz> minholi: maybe you could remove it first, and re-install ?
[06:32] <malv> firefox issue, right?
[06:32] <minholi> malv, yes
[06:32] <Belutz> minholi: make sure you remove completely
[06:32] <malv> i can't even rollback and start it now
[06:32] <stpere> hey there
[06:33] <brodmann> tritium, there used to be a document in wiki that would take me step by step on how to download the package and install all that stuff
[06:33] <brodmann> do you have any idea where that is?
[06:33] <minholi> Belutz, I remove the firefox package with --purge
[06:33] <^DodGeR^> TGIF !! hello all
[06:33] <tritium> brodmann: I gave you the url earlier, right?
[06:33] <tritium> !tell brodmann about ati
[06:33] <Belutz> hmmm
[06:34] <minholi> Belutz, and I already move my profile (.mozilla) to (.mozilla.bak)... the same think happens..
[06:35] <tritium> brodmann: you should already have the resricted repository setup in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:35] <tritium> if not, ask ubotu about repositories
[06:35] <minholi> some people on ubuntuforums.org got the same problem after upgrade
[06:36] <minholi> firefox just don't run
[06:36] <hussam> anybody else getting timeouts from archive.ubuntu.com ?
[06:36] <Xenguy> Hi - I want to run a 1-line command after every time this laptop boots.  Is /etc/init.d/skeleton the best place to start?
[06:36] <mon> minholi: well it still is relatively new and untested software. it's a risk you take
[06:36] <Belutz> minholi: try this firefox -ProfileManager to run the profile manager and create a new one
[06:37] <prabu^> Hello al
[06:37] <prabu^> i have a slight problem i would like to ask abt
[06:37] <prabu^> has anyone got the problem where downloading / uploading stalls suddenly during transfer
[06:38] <minholi> Belutz, it works on the first load, after the profile creation, and don't load up after close.
[06:38] <Belutz> prabu^: connections problem?
[06:38] <Belutz> minholi: are you on breezy or hoary?
[06:38] <giles> got a question for the channel. anyone have XMRADIO running on their ubuntu system ?
[06:38] <minholi> Belutz, hoary
[06:38] <prabu^> i have no idea :S
[06:38] <prabu^> could it be a OS related problem ?
[06:39] <prabu^> or hardware related
[06:39] <prabu^> might be my NIC
[06:39] <prabu^> is ther a way to check if the NIC is fsckin up
[06:39] <Belutz> minholi: are you familiar with aptitude ?
[06:39] <minholi> Belutz, a little
[06:40] <Belutz> minholi: go to aptitude
[06:40] <mon> try pinging the apt server 10 times for example
[06:40] <vrln> ehm... what was the ubuntu universe motd channel here on freenode again?
[06:40] <Belutz> minholi: search for mozilla-firefox and press shift+_
[06:40] <minholi> ok
[06:40] <Belutz> minholi: it will remove the firefox
[06:40] <tritium> vrln: you mean MOTU?
[06:41] <Belutz> minholi: after that, try to delete the firefox directory in your home directory, and reinstall the mozilla-firefox
[06:41] <apokryphos> vrln: ubuntu-motu
[06:41] <vrln> yup, thanks :)
[06:43] <cousin_ub> hi all
[06:44] <ompaul> hello
[06:45] <cousin_ub> you know a howto's site to install quake 3 ?
[06:45] <ompaul> !ops
[06:45] <ubotu> ops is, like, totally, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[06:45] <apokryphos> ompaul: hm?
[06:45] <ompaul> +r ?
[06:45] <apokryphos> spambots
[06:45] <mon> cousin_ub: basicly you need a installer (quake3.com i think) and the cd
[06:45] <ompaul> apokryphos, :)
[06:45] <ompaul> apokryphos, didn't see ya there
[06:46] <gizmosis> is there a yum/pacman/rpm update web thingy
[06:46] <apokryphos> =)
[06:46] <cousin_ub> no mon on the src
[06:46] <mon> gizmosis: better: apt-get ;)
[06:46] <shaoqi> hi. i installed ubuntu on my 2nd hdd, how do i access files on my first hdd? I don't see it anywhere using file browser. thanks
[06:46] <gizmosis> kewl
[06:46] <gizmosis> i love debian
[06:46] <apokryphos> gizmosis: apt with .debs
[06:46] <cousin_ub> quake 3 is free now
[06:46] <mon> cousin_ub: you want to build it from source?
[06:46] <mon> cousin_ub: aah. no idea then :)
[06:46] <gizmosis> where do i get quake 3
[06:47] <Blissex> shaoqi: well, there is a FAQ in 'uboto' or on the Wiki IIRC about accessing ''foreign'' partitions.
[06:47] <mon> gizmosis: synaptic if you like GUI programs
[06:47] <shaoqi> blissex, i don't quite get it. i'm very new to ubuntu.. just installed..
[06:47] <mon> cousin_ub: also only the source is free. you still need artwork (eg. weapons, sound, maps, etc)
[06:47] <apokryphos> hi
[06:47] <shaoqi> blissex, mind guiding me more?
[06:47] <Blissex> shaoqi: usually Ubuntu will have detected those ''foreign'' partitions automagically and added them to '/etc/fstab'
[06:48] <Blissex> shaoqi: which method of file browsing are you using?
[06:48] <cousin_ub> ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/source/quake3-1.32b-source.zip
[06:48] <shaoqi> what method? the normal one?
[06:48] <cousin_ub> ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/source/quake3-1.32b-source.zip
[06:48] <Blissex> shaoqi: as in: command line , Nautilus, Konqueror, whatever...
[06:49] <Blissex> shaoqi: for example, are you familiar with the 'mount' command?
[06:49] <mon> Blissex: assume nautilus
[06:49] <Blissex> argh, I dont use Nautilus :-)
[06:49] <mon> Blissex: i always assume if a user doesn't know, it's probably nautilus ;)
[06:49] <shaoqi> what's nautilus? sorry guys. i'm really new =x
[06:49] <Belutz> brb guys
[06:50] <Blissex> mon: thats a good assumption, just checking...
[06:50] <mon> shaoqi: you use a graphical filebrowser with green/brownish maps right?
[06:50] <mon> Blissex: ofcourse :)
[06:50] <^DodGeR^> nautilus is like explorer on windows shaoqi
[06:50] <Blissex> shaoqi: Nautilus is the GNOME file manager, as the other guys are saying.
[06:50] <apokryphos> there is *no* factoid for Nautilus? Come on guys ;-)
[06:50] <shaoqi> mon, it's file browser?
[06:50] <mon> Blissex: i think ubotu can help in this case. not sure what command though :)
[06:51] <Blissex> shaoqi: and Nautilus has modules that do practically everything relating to files etc., including partitions and remote file access.
[06:51] <shaoqi> i see..
[06:51] <Blissex> mon: yes, I remember it has a factoid, but I can;t remember the name
[06:51] <P229> anyone here see the "gay duck" review of ubuntu? anyone considering dropping the ubuntu codename scheme?
[06:51] <Blissex> !partitions
[06:51] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Blissex
[06:51] <Blissex> !filesystems
[06:51] <ubotu> Blissex: Are you on ritalin?
[06:51] <mon> !mounting
[06:51] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, mon
[06:51] <Blissex> !mount
[06:51] <ubotu> hmm... mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[06:51] <mon> yay
[06:51] <Blissex> got it!
[06:51] <shaoqi> !windowsdrives
[06:51] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, totally, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[06:52] <mon> ah yeah, great script that
[06:52] <Blissex> shaoqi: so, look at both of the links above.
[06:52] <mtl>
[06:52] <shaoqi> ok thanks:)
[06:52] <Blissex> me actually uses Kubuntu or something like that.
[06:52] <mon> list #kubuntu
[06:52] <mon> oops
[06:53] <Blissex> shaoqi: I just started Nautilus BTW. Look at the 'Places' meny and select 'Computer'.
[06:53] <Blissex> shaoqi: if you are lucky all your partitions will be listed there.
[06:54] <shaoqi> i'm not lucky enuff
[06:54] <puff> Morning.
[06:54] <shaoqi> i don't see it
[06:54] <Blissex> shaoqi: what dont you see?
[06:54] <shaoqi> let me try to mount my other hdd
[06:54] <shaoqi> no idea
[06:54] <mon> shaoqi: try this script http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[06:54] <Whistler> hello everybody
[06:55] <puff> I'm having a problem where I'm trying to apt-get udist-upgrade to breezy and it just sorta hangs when it gets to "Preconfiguring packages"
[06:55] <Flash13> -_- I don't suppose somebody could walk me though mounting an NTSF partition could they please
[06:55] <Whistler> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[06:55] <shaoqi> mon, trying now.. :)
[06:55] <Whistler> i get this error then i try to update my system
[06:55] <Blissex> Flash13: smae as for shaoqi...
[06:55] <Whistler> i am on breezy
[06:55] <mon> Flash13: try "wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab" and then running it with ./winmac_fstab
[06:55] <Whistler> any ideas?
[06:55] <puff> Any thoughts on what to do about this?
[06:56] <shaoqi> how do i get to the command line?
[06:56] <Blissex> puff: you should not be trying to upgrade to Breezy yet...
[06:56] <Flash13> mon, Blissex, will give it ago, thanks :)
[06:56] <digitize> Blissex: why do you say that?
[06:56] <mon> shaoqi: right click on your desktop and select Open terminal
[06:56] <shaoqi> thanks..
[06:56] <Blissex> digitize: because it is not yet quite all right, and involves some dangerous ABI transitions.
[06:56] <digitize> perhaps, i suppose it's not completely suggested
[06:56] <digitize> but i upgraded with no problems
[06:57] <digitize> and i suppose, it's only a small bit more until the official release is out
[06:57] <Blissex> digitize: it all depends if you feel lucky :-). And the moment at which you do the upgrade.
[06:57] <digitize> :)
[06:57] <puff> Blissex: Okay.
[06:57] <Whistler> any ideas?
[06:58] <mon> Whistler: you sure it doesn't just take a long time?
[06:58] <treitter> Whistler: I think it's a known problem
[06:58] <shaoqi> how do i execute the script? cant seems to work
[06:58] <apokryphos> shaoqi: sh <script>
[06:58] <mon> shaoqi: chmod u+x "filename"
[06:58] <treitter> the forums have several people it's happened to (and it's happened to me)
[06:58] <apokryphos> shaoqi: you might need sudo powers depending on the script
[06:58] <Whistler> treitter oh then ill just wait :)
[06:59] <mon> shaoqi: first what i said, then what apokryphos said actually :)
[06:59] <shaoqi> okay. let me try again
[06:59] <mon> shaoqi: oh yes: "sudo sh <script>" should do
[06:59] <dr_willis> Whistler,  - getting identical problem.
[06:59] <puff> Blissex: The reason I was upgrading to breezy is that somebody here recommended doing so, because I'm having problems with ubuntu forgetting about the 802.11 hardware when resuming from suspend.
[06:59] <treitter> Whistler: yeah, I'd just avoid rebooting until it's fixed, though :)
[06:59] <treitter> it may prevent you from booting X
[07:00] <treitter> that's what happened to me the last time it happened
[07:00] <digitize> i'm quite interested in what 6.04 is going to be like (yes, even though 5.10 isn't out officially yet)
[07:00] <apokryphos> mon: actually, no :)
[07:00] <mon> apokryphos: no?
[07:00] <umberleigh> hey, amarok crashed and now i can't start it again. if i run killall amarok && amarok, it occupies the command line, but doesn't actually start
[07:00] <shaoqi> it says no such file or directory
[07:00] <Whistler> treitter i have rebooted few times
[07:00] <Whistler> everything works fin
[07:00] <apokryphos> mon: well, try it if you like; wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab && sudo sh winmac_fstab
[07:00] <shaoqi> i save the script on my desktop
[07:00] <Whistler> everything works fine
[07:00] <mon> apokryphos: rather not :)
[07:01] <minholi> firefox 1.0.7 problem solved... killall -9 firefox-bin and run had solved it to me.
[07:01] <Blissex> puff: I think suspend is a dangerous thing...
[07:01] <mon> shaoqi: can you do a "ls -l winmac_fstab"
[07:02] <shaoqi> l
[07:02] <shaoqi> oops
[07:02] <mon> shaoqi: and make sure you're in the Desktop directory :)
[07:02] <shaoqi> ya. i guess i'm not
[07:02] <shaoqi> how do i get there
[07:02] <puff> Blissex: I'm on a laptop, what do you recommend?
[07:02] <mon> shaoqi: you'd might want to read a basic linux tutorial... "cd Desktop"
[07:02] <jeff303> anyone here use Cedega to play Warcraft 3?
[07:02] <mon> jeff303: me does
[07:03] <jeff303> mon: have you ever had the problem of reaaaly slow framerate (like <1 FPS)
[07:03] <shaoqi> i tried cd desktop
[07:03] <heitzso> hit breezy bug with xorg and fonts this am, tried submitting bug, joined up, but still not allowed to enter the bug. That's awkward. Anyway, upgrade to breezy from hoary, rebooted this am, xorg complained no fonts.  Fixed by installing xfs and xfs-xtt.  But should not have to do that.
[07:03] <shaoqi> didn't know it was case sensitive
[07:03] <mon> shaoqi:  it is :)
[07:03] <jeff303> mon: I had it working fine yesterday after painfully changing the in-game resolution to match the desktop
[07:03] <shaoqi> where can i read a guide? thanks..
[07:03] <heitzso> apologize for too long msg breaking
[07:03] <mon> jeff303: nope but i know what you mean
[07:03] <jeff303> mon: but after a restart it's back down to a crawl  :-(
[07:03] <mon> jeff303: hmm try glxgears
[07:03] <heitzso> just trying to flag that was not allowed to enter an official bug and xorg broken this am
[07:04] <jeff303> mon: works great
[07:04] <Flash13> Rhythmbox doesn't play MP3s :S "missing plugin" that could do with fixing :P
[07:04] <mon> jeff303: how many FPS?
[07:04] <jeff303> mon: other pure opengl progs work fine too
[07:04] <Belutz> i'm back
[07:04] <heitzso> another breezy bug ... have 939 athlon 64 and geforce 6200 ... does not work 64, only works 32 w nvidia driver
[07:04] <mon> jeff303: hmm ok. could be WC3 specific then.. no idea sorry
[07:04] <mon> !info mp3
[07:04] <mon> ehr
[07:05] <jeff303> mon: ok no prob
[07:05] <mon> !tell Flash13 about mp3
[07:05] <heitzso> nv driver broken both 32 and 64 with combo 939 athlon and geforce 6200
[07:05] <umberleigh> got it. killall amarok amarokapp && amarok
[07:05] <heitzso> \quit
[07:05] <Belutz> !tell Flash13 about w32codecs
[07:05] <mon> Belutz: isn't that movies only?
[07:06] <Belutz> mon: i think it's for mp3 too, afaik
[07:06] <puff> Hm, interesting... reboot isn't working.
[07:06] <mon> !tell Belutz about mp3
[07:06] <puff> What's the best way to kill gnome?
[07:06] <mon> puff: ctrl-alt-backspace should do. then you could stop gdm
[07:06] <mon> Belutz: pretty sure it's that one :)
[07:07] <mon> puff: what do you mean reboot doesn't work?
[07:07] <Belutz> Moder: yup... i forgot, mp3 use that gstreamer-mad
[07:07] <mon> aye
[07:07] <puff> mon:  sudo reboot<enter>....wait, wait, wait... still here.
[07:07] <shaoqi> mon, you mention about linux basic guide, where can i read it?
[07:08] <mon> puff: hmm killing gnome probably won't help then
[07:08] <apokryphos> !rute
[07:08] <ubotu> rute is, like, totally, a great guide for learning about Linux and is available at http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/
[07:08] <Belutz> well the wiki pages should be update since the w32codecs is not in repos anymore
[07:08] <mon> ah thanks apokryphos
[07:08] <shaoqi> thanks
[07:08] <shaoqi> :)
[07:08] <apokryphos> shaoqi: that's one guide; for other good things, /msg ubotu commands, and also be sure to check the Wiki
[07:08] <puff> Well, I could always hold down the power button.
[07:08] <shaoqi> okay..
[07:08] <mon> puff: if you have ATX you could just press it once and wait. works for me
[07:09] <xophEr> are these packages broken; gnome-screensaver, ubuntu-desktop and x-window-system-core, or why cant I upgrade them? (breezy)
[07:09] <puff> I just apt-removed several hibernate and acpid, gonna see if that helps any.
[07:09] <puff> Those were the two most recent packages I installed, so maybe they're the source of the problems.
[07:09] <puff> Well, some of the problems.
[07:09] <mon> puff: you could check top or ps for hanging processes
[07:10] <Xorlev> Was X just updated?
[07:10] <Xorlev> I just marked an upgrade and X is on there...any problems with it?
[07:10] <Whistler> anybody got slune working?
[07:10] <jyank> hello
[07:11] <puff> ps ax | fgrep Ds --> /usr/sbin/hald --drop-privileges
[07:11] <mon> Whistler: sounds like fun. i'll install it
[07:11] <Whistler> mon have you tried it?
[07:11] <mon> Whistler: i'll install it first :)
[07:11] <zrothe> !ati
[07:11] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[07:11] <Belutz> what is slune?
[07:11] <mon> puff: maybe kill -9 `pidof hald` ?
[07:12] <hutgyyr> i want to copy multiple folders with cp -r but I if specify /folder one/ /folder two/ /folder three/ /mnt/newarea this will just copy folder one to folder two, right?
[07:12] <mon> hutgyyr: it'll copy everything to the last specified "folder"
[07:12] <puff> mon: tried that, it's still there.
[07:12] <hutgyyr> ok good
[07:13] <mon> puff: hmm i don't know then. i've had the same problem too
[07:13] <puff> I installed vanilla ubuntu hoary on my thinkpad t43p.  Everything seemed to go okay, BUT it wasn't seeing all 2Gb of memory.
[07:13] <mon> Whistler: slune seems to work
[07:13] <Whistler> i cant play it
[07:13] <Whistler> menu appears
[07:13] <Whistler> i press play and it closes
[07:13] <Whistler> =[
[07:13] <cesarin> hello again
[07:14] <bystander> puff, you need to install a new kernel ( i386 only sees ~900MB of RAM)
[07:14] <mon> Whistler: hmm it looks good and has some nice music
[07:14] <mon> Whistler: do you have 3dacceleration working?
[07:14] <bystander> puff, uname -m to see your architecture
[07:15] <Whistler> mon yes i do
[07:15] <mon> Whistler: try starting it from console and watch for errors
[07:15] <bystander> puff, apt-cache search linux-image to see alternatives
[07:15] <puff> bystander:  Yeah, on the advice of somebody here, I tried apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.10-5-686.
[07:16] <cesarin> bystander, : any idea how to remove the 64 bit version of JAVA? its stuck in one directory after installing it ( but doesnt seem to work )
[07:16] <Whistler> mon http://pastebin.com/372116
[07:16] <Whistler> heres what i get
[07:16] <puff> However, it then started forgetting about the 802.11 hardware.  On further advice from somebody here, I tried apt-get install --reinstall restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686
[07:16] <cesarin> X doesnt let me touch that directory, and inside the console it just tells me the directory doesnt exist, even when it appears with a "LS" command
[07:16] <bystander> puff, well, to see your memory you should only need to reboot and chosse that kernel
[07:16] <bystander> 8choose
[07:16] <mon> Whistler: hmm sorry doesn't mean much to me..
[07:17] <puff> bystander: Yeah, it started seeing all the memory, but it coudln't find the 802.11.
[07:17] <La_PaRCa> Hey. Whats a good program to mix mp3's in linux?
[07:17] <mon> Whistler: except that you have an Ati which does seem to be the cause for random problems...
[07:17] <Whistler> anybody got any ideas about this http://pastebin.com/372116 ?
[07:17] <puff> After I installed the modules and rebooted, the 802.11 came back... until I suspended-to-disk and resumed, then it disappeared again.
[07:18] <puff> Okay, still nowhere, I'm gonna try a hard reboot.  I'll be idle for a minute until I can reconnect to this session.
[07:19] <hutgyyr> i have a share mounted from a windows machine and the folders are in the format FOLDER1 etc. ls -l reveals that the files are all there. However, when I use the cp -r command it says No such file or directory for all the folders...
[07:19] <mon> La_PaRCa: there's freej, lives and (g)veejay
[07:19] <bystander> La_PaRCa, audacity
[07:19] <hutgyyr> what is going on
[07:19] <Whistler> anybody got any ideas about this http://pastebin.com/372116 ?
[07:19] <mon> La_PaRCa: linux-magazine reccomends FreeJ :)
[07:20] <cesarin> Well, anyone knows how to remove the java64 version on ubuntu 64?
[07:20] <hutgyyr> oh I had a preceding slash
[07:20] <zrothe> How do I go about removing fglrx drivers?
[07:20] <cesarin> X shell doesnt lets me saying I dont have rights to do so, it doesnt appear in synaptic, but if I do a LS , the directory appears there
[07:20] <cesarin> and I can access it
[07:21] <La_PaRCa> um... I need something realtime... kinda like a djs console?
[07:21] <mon> Whistler: check the slune site. there are maillinglists and they have an irc channel too
[07:22] <sasch1> doing last breezy update with fglrx...the last time I did that, my hwole box froze
[07:22] <cesarin> seems noone knows heh :P
[07:22] <puff> Back... well, that didn't seem to help.  I'm still getting the "error, failed to initialze HAL!"
[07:22] <mon> cesarin: dpkg --purge sun-j2SOMETHING?
[07:22] <puff> Hm.
[07:22] <cesarin> mon: let me try that
[07:23] <puff> I get this HAL error, then click "close", then it takes several minutes to finsih bringing up gnome.
[07:23] <mon> cesarin: try dpkg -l|grep jdk first to see what's installed
[07:23] <puff> And sometimes it doesn't get the top-of-screen/bottom-of-screen menu bars.
[07:23] <cesarin> ok
[07:23] <mon> puff: linux is great, it's not perfect (yet). sleep mode is one of the things that doesn't always work
[07:23] <Beryllium> I had a weird quirk last night, copied a bunch of files off a CD into my home folder (as my user account, not as root) - naturally, they were all marked as read-only. I tried to rm -f some of them, but I got permission denied, even though I was the owner of the files.
[07:24] <Beryllium> Is that standard for Ubuntu, or is it a weird glitch? Because I've never seen any other Linux distro do that
[07:24] <dr_willis> Hmm.
[07:24] <cesarin> mon: ok, let me try that too
[07:24] <mon> Beryllium: you have write permission on the files?
[07:24] <Beryllium> It could be because I'm running it under VMware
[07:24] <eruin> bastard HAL doesn't want to play nicely with my ipod nano :o
[07:24] <Beryllium> mon: No, it was R-X, but I was the owner.
[07:24] <Beryllium> r-xr-xr-x
[07:24] <mon> Beryllium: you need to be able to write to the files in order to delete them :)
[07:24] <Beryllium> and I did "rm -f filename"
[07:24] <goo_> Beryllium: that's perfectly normal. chmod -R u+w is your friend :)
[07:25] <Beryllium> it prompted, but still gave me permission denied
[07:25] <puff> Beryllium: Okay, so give yourself write perms :-).
[07:25] <mon> what goo_ said :)
[07:25] <Beryllium> Hmm. Most curious, I don't recall ever running into that before, I assumed that the -f would force it regardless, so long as I owned the file.
[07:25] <cesarin> mon: it shows nothing
[07:25] <mon> Beryllium: think of it this way: if you can write into a document, you can also delete characters in it
[07:25] <puff> Beryllium: Think of the perms as a lock;  even though you know the combination, you still have to actually unlock it before you can get in.
[07:26] <mon> cesarin: did you install it with fakeroot make-jpkg ?
[07:26] <cesarin> mon: yeah, followed instructions of the website
[07:26] <La_PaRCa> mon, freej is a video mixer... ?I need something tomix mp3s in realtime
[07:26] <cesarin> of wiki's 64 bit java
[07:26] <mon> cesarin: grep for sdk then
[07:26] <puff> Wow, gnome *finally* just came up.
[07:26] <cesarin> but still got fuxored
[07:27] <mon> La_PaRCa: ooh wait.. you could be right. it was about video mixing.. maybe one of the others then?
[07:27] <cesarin> still shows nothing? o_O
[07:27] <puff> Hm, got this popup:  Question:  The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_WorkspaceSwitcherApplet".  Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?
[07:27] <La_PaRCa> mon, all those are videomixers
[07:27] <cesarin> btw, also since today's boot, I can tupdate ubuntu,keeps doing that crap of "cannot lock download directory"
[07:27] <puff> I'm about this far from just reinstalling ubuntu from scratch...
[07:27] <mon> La_PaRCa: hmm sorry then. maybe audacity?
[07:27] <cesarin> puff, I did that once :P
[07:28] <Seveas> puff, just let it delete the thing from config
[07:28] <La_PaRCa> mon, looking for something like this but for gtk http://djplay.sourceforge.net/
[07:28] <puff> So, should I delete the GNOME_WorkspaceSwitcherApplet?
[07:28] <Seveas> and add it back later
[07:28] <mon> cesarin: maybe there's still an instance of apt-get of synaptic running. if not, delete the lock file
[07:28] <puff> Hm.
[07:28] <mon> puff: i always say no since it's a once in a lifetime error. or you could add it back later
[07:28] <cesarin> mon: tips to remove the lock? because I dont see any  other instance of synaptic running
[07:29] <mon> cesarin: ps ax|grep apt?
[07:29] <mon> cesarin: /var/lock otherwise
[07:29] <mon> cesarin: (i think)
[07:29] <mon> La_PaRCa: whats wrong with djplay?
[07:30] <La_PaRCa> mon, qt
[07:30] <mon> !tell me about java
[07:30] <zeitgeist_y2k> is there a way to install other apps when booted to the live-cd? e.g. mc
[07:30] <mon> La_PaRCa: you can't have it all your way :) at least it's free. don't expect much else on the linux platform
[07:30] <cesarin> mon: got the info?
[07:31] <mon> cesarin: yeah. try sudo killall apt-get
[07:31] <Seveas> zeitgeist_y2k, sure
[07:31] <boxerboy29> since the topic changed is it safe to update Xcommon?
[07:31] <Seveas> but you'll lose them when you reboot
[07:32] <Seveas> boxerboy29, yeah
[07:32] <boxerboy29> ok ty
[07:32] <cesarin> done
[07:32] <zeitgeist_y2k> Seveas, that's ok, I'm trying to rescue a system
[07:32] <cesarin> mon, done, 3 programs dissapeared from the list
[07:32] <zeitgeist_y2k> Seveas, so do I just use apt-get?
[07:32] <mon> cesarin: now try again
[07:32] <Seveas> yep
[07:32] <cesarin> ok
[07:32] <cesarin> triying
[07:32] <cesarin> works
[07:32] <cesarin> now installing patches
[07:32] <boxerboy29> same error
[07:33] <mon> cesarin: as for java: try sudo ./java-amd64-packagename.bin --help
[07:33] <cesarin> ok mon
[07:33] <La_PaRCa> mon, wouldb be kinda dumb to install all the qt libs just to mess around with djplay
[07:33] <mon> cesarin: i have no idea how to remove java if it isn't installed with apt
[07:33] <mon> La_PaRCa: i know. i did it for k3b too and didn't like it
[07:33] <puff> Hm, it looks like suspend is completely gone now... alt-f12 seems to do nothing.
[07:33] <cesarin> mon: says file not found
[07:34] <_nyn_> i'm trying to send from my own system (postfix) rather than using a webmail interface. in my mail.log, i get "connect to yahoo.com[[...] ] : server dropped connection without sending the initial SMT greeting". any pointers? (i'm a total email newbie)
[07:34] <cesarin> thats the wierd thing.. the file is there, but most commands says the file doesnt exist
[07:34] <mon> La_PaRCa: but you've got to realize that dj'ing is a very specific and small market. not much people interested on working on it
[07:34] <cesarin> also "X" , neither console lets me remove it
[07:34] <cesarin> its like a "GHOST" file
[07:34] <ruy> somone here speaks spanish, i need help
[07:34] <ruy> please
[07:34] <mon> La_PaRCa: if that's really what you want. maybe another OS would suit you better
[07:34] <cesarin> ruy: hay un sitio para el espaol en ubutunu
[07:34] <ruy> ok cesar
[07:34] <cesarin> creo que es ubuntu-es
[07:34] <ruy> donde
[07:34] <puff> Hm, looks like acpid didn't uninstall cleanly.
[07:34] <mon> La_PaRCa: there's agnula (linux) specific for audio. maybe that has something. otherwise maybe something from MS...
[07:34] <ruy> te agradezco
[07:35] <cesarin> de nada
[07:35] <^DodGeR^> could try #ubuntu-es too
[07:35] <cesarin> dodger: thats what I told him :P
[07:35] <mon> cesarin: could you paste the exact output?
[07:35] <^DodGeR^> ahh heh nice lol
[07:35] <cesarin> mon: ok give me a min
[07:35] <mon> cesarin: and what you typed
[07:35] <shaoqi> hi. where can i download codecs for playing movie and mp3s..
[07:35] <mon> tell shaoqi about mp3
[07:35] <cesarin> cesarin@cesarin-ubuntu:~/datafiles$ ls
[07:35] <cesarin> gplflash-0.4.13          jre1.5.0_04                   winmac_fstab
[07:35] <cesarin> gplflash-0.4.13.tar.bz2  jre-1_5_0_05-linux-amd64.bin
[07:35] <mon> !tell shaoqi about w32codecs
[07:35] <mon> !tell shaoqi about mp3
[07:36] <cesarin> jrel is the java one
[07:36] <mon> sudo ./jre-1_5_0_05-linux-amd64.bin --help?
[07:36] <cesarin> mon: ok
[07:36] <mon> cesarin: no idea if it has a help parameter but you can always try
[07:37] <mon> cesarin: otherwise check sun's site. it's not really supported by ubuntu
[07:37] <mon> cesarin: i really need my rsi-break now. back later good luck :)
[07:37] <spstarr_work> NetworkManager appears broken in Breezy?
[07:37] <spstarr_work>  i get no icons nothing and nm-applet shows dbus errors even after restarting dbus
[07:37] <cesarin> mon: the instructions of java actually destroyed my firefox once :P
[07:38] <cesarin> ok see you
[07:38] <psusi> can someone explain to me why initramfs is any better than initrd?
[07:39] <cesarin> cesarin@cesarin-ubuntu:~/datafiles$ sudo ./jre-1_5_0_05-linux-amd64.bin --help?
[07:39] <cesarin> sudo: ./jre-1_5_0_05-linux-amd64.bin: command not found
[07:39] <flodine> hello guys i just want to update my kernel is this possible
[07:39] <cesarin> i tried witouth the ? just in case I Got it wrong, and it says the same
[07:40] <Blissex> cesarin: it need to be executable. 'chmod a+x /jre-1_5_0_05-linux-amd64.bin'
[07:40] <Blissex> cesarin: it needs to be executable. 'chmod a+x ./jre-1_5_0_05-linux-amd64.bin'
[07:40] <cesarin> Blissex, : thank you
[07:40] <psusi> flodine: yea... update your packages
[07:40] <nubbe> is w32codecs in backports?
[07:40] <bystander> !w32codecs
[07:40] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs or breezy: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl. 64bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[07:40] <flodine> psusi how
[07:41] <cesarin> ok, it now gives me the classic  Sun's JAVA code license agreement
[07:41] <psusi> flodine: with one of the package managers... like the nifty gui one... sympatic was it called?
[07:41] <robzon> yo
[07:41] <spstarr_work> !networkmanager
[07:41] <ubotu> well, networkmanager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[07:41] <spstarr_work> hmm
[07:41] <spstarr_work> doesnt work the howto
[07:41] <robzon> is the autorun script on removable devices ubuntu-specific or is it implemented in gnome?
[07:41] <flodine> psusi will it let me get kernel 2.6.13
[07:41] <spstarr_work> breezy has 0.4+cvs of NetworkManager anyway
[07:42] <cesarin> Blissex, and after clicking "YES", it ran the package, I think it installed this version too
[07:42] <neighborlee> has anyone else seen by chance a : Buffer I/O error on device dm-0 : on install of breezy ?? ( thx whomever !) .....
[07:43] <cesarin> /whois $me
[07:43] <cesarin> /whois cesarin
[07:43] <cesarin> urgh
[07:43] <absenth> is Breezy basically ready for use at this point?
[07:43] <absenth> in a non critical system anyway
[07:43] <Chousuke> If you'ew feeling adventurous, then perhaps
[07:44] <kemik> absenth:  not in any system
[07:44] <Chousuke> 're*
[07:44] <Chousuke> though hm, right.
[07:44] <Chousuke> I heard X is broken
[07:44] <flodine> why doesnt ubuntu have a  update like fedora to do a new kernel?
[07:44] <cesarin> chousuke: already fixed
[07:44] <cesarin> it was 2 days ago
[07:44] <Chousuke> h.
[07:44] <Chousuke> ah*
[07:44] <Chousuke> flodine: ?
[07:44] <cesarin> just because a wrong UDEV program
[07:44] <kemik> breezy isnt stable until it's stable
[07:44] <Chousuke> I see.
[07:44] <cesarin> made your mouse dissapear
[07:44] <psusi> flodine: doesn't look like somebody has packaged it yet
[07:45] <absenth> when is it IN THEORY going to go to stable then?
[07:45] <Chousuke> next month
[07:45] <kemik> absenth:  13 oct
[07:45] <flodine> so im stuck with the old shi....... till breezy
[07:45] <Chousuke> flodine: Patience.
[07:45] <kemik> or go test breezy right away
[07:45] <robzon> hey, I'm running breezy, and I can't complain
[07:45] <Chousuke> It's not far away.
[07:45] <cesarin> I think ill go to WINDOZE and redownload breezy
[07:45] <cesarin> but a 32 bit version
[07:46] <absenth> robzon: gnome, or kubuntu
[07:46] <Chousuke> oh noses.
[07:46] <cesarin> since the 64 bit as TOO FEW propietary programs -_-
[07:46] <Mudchains> hello
[07:46] <cesarin> and installing java & other packages are a pain in the ass
[07:46] <Chousuke> cesarin: Use Ubuntu to download the 32-bit version :P
[07:46] <flodine> if i install breezy now will i be able to update it when the release comes out
[07:46] <Chousuke> Yes.
[07:46] <Chousuke> easily.
[07:46] <Mudchains> can someone help me?
[07:47] <Mudchains> I want to install ubuntu under vmware
[07:47] <zeitgeist_y2k> how come the most basic packages are missing in the live cd? mc, traceroute...
[07:47] <sobersabre> hi
[07:47] <kemik> flodine:  yes... but dont come running if your system breaks
[07:47] <cesarin> Chousuke, considering im a total noob ( installed ubuntu 3 days ago and still learning it ) then.. you're talking to me in chinese :P
[07:47] <Chousuke> You can also update your existing hoary install to breezy right now if you want.
[07:47] <Mudchains> I have downloaded the love cd.. and run it now from it
[07:47] <sobersabre> I've almost completed hoary->breezy upgrade.
[07:47] <robzon> absenth: gnome
[07:47] <cesarin> Chousuke,  and im already on breezy , but 64 bit :P
[07:47] <Mudchains> is there a command to intaller it? like sudo knoppix-installer
[07:47] <sobersabre> I can't seem to succeed to start gdm
[07:47] <Chousuke> cesarin: go to ubuntulinux.com and download the 32-bit image.
[07:47] <absenth> robzon: did they remove the "terminal" from the right click menu on the desktop?
[07:47] <Chousuke> then burn it.
[07:47] <kemik> i wouldnt recommend anyone to upgrade to breezy unless you *know* what you're doing.. and if youre asking in here. you probably dont
[07:47] <sobersabre> the Xorg.0.log shows "fixed" font wasn't found
[07:47] <Chousuke> just like you would on windows :P
[07:48] <sobersabre> what shall I do ?
[07:48] <bystander> !openterm
[07:48] <ubotu> To add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package
[07:48] <robzon> absenth: yup
[07:48] <spstarr_work> ack
[07:48] <absenth> and if they did, How does one add that back.
[07:48] <spstarr_work> NetworkManagerInfo is missing in Breezy
[07:48] <absenth> ubotu: Danke.
[07:48] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, absenth
[07:48] <sambagirl> when we can update to breezy? is automatico?
[07:48] <Mudchains> anyone :)?
[07:48] <kemik> argh
[07:48] <kemik> !breezy
[07:48] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:48] <Chousuke> it's not automatic.
[07:48] <cesarin> Chousuke,  ok, will try that
[07:48] <sobersabre> ok.. let's rephrase: HEEEELLLP! :)
[07:48] <kemik> why is everyone so *damn* horny on breezy ?
[07:49] <kemik> wait if you know what youre doing you wouldnt ask.. if you dont know, you shouldnt upgrade
[07:49] <Chousuke> Dunno.
[07:49] <kemik> *easy*  ;)
[07:49] <cesarin> lol, I froze "X" thakns to firefox :P
[07:49] <malv> so how do I fix this firefox upgrade?
[07:49] <neighborlee> kemik, I had to try something different cause my hoary install was crashing semi frequently....so I decided to give breezy a 'shot'
[07:49] <robzon> absenth: though it's ok for me, I simply use meta4+a to run terminal :) it's even better than using desktop's context menu
[07:49] <Chousuke> after breezy comes out there will be people upgrading to Drake :P
[07:49] <Bad_Magic> can anyone tell me why my boot locks when it tries to initialize my network cards when eth0 isnt connected? (i can ctrl-d to get past it... but i have to modprobe ndiswrapper to get it up)
[07:50] <sobersabre> what is broken in X in breezy, any urls would be nice.
[07:50] <absenth> I'm thinking about trying to drop Auditor Linux on my hard drive as a local install.
[07:50] <cesarin> ok, m gonna go to windoze to install the ISO and burn it
[07:50] <robzon> Bad_Magic: add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules maybe
[07:50] <kemik> Chousuke:  yeah, but i dont mind ppl trying it out as long as they know what they're doing and dont come whining "it doesnt work. poor me.. stupid *unstable release*"
[07:50] <cesarin> *grumbles at buggy breezy* :P
[07:50] <mutunus> hi, i'm running breezy on ppc this morning I was updating... any suggestions cuz x-common gave me this error:  E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[07:50] <absenth> robzon: I admit it, I don't even know what Meta4 is :)
[07:51] <puff> Okay, so I had to boot into winxp to get the CDROM working again, to burn an install CD.  How can I get the ISO from the linux partition, so I don't have to download it again?
[07:51] <boxerboy29> im getting same error still
[07:51] <robzon> absenth: meta4 a.k.a. winkey :)
[07:51] <psusi> kemik: well, on the other hand, it is released for beta testing, so when it doesn't work, it can be reported and fixed
[07:51] <sambagirl> whta i apt?
[07:51] <absenth> robzon: Ahah.
[07:51] <sambagirl> what is apt?
[07:51] <Bad_Magic> robzon: it will come up if my eth0 is plugged in... the problem is bringing eth0 online w/o it plugged in makes me have to kill the network setup on boot
[07:51] <Chousuke> it's the package installer/manager
[07:51] <psusi> puff: why don't you just burn it from under linux?
[07:51] <sobersabre> hey, I am BitchXing now from my fresh Breezy upgrade.
[07:52] <IcemanV9> puff: you can burn from linux
[07:52] <sobersabre> how do I get into X ? :)
[07:52] <Bad_Magic> startx ?
[07:52] <Bad_Magic> =x
[07:52] <Jowi> sambagirl: it's the application you use to install/remove programs
[07:52] <sambagirl> u caq do over the net?
[07:52] <funkyHat> Bad_Magic, no
[07:52] <sambagirl> upgrade?
[07:52] <kemik> psusi:  yeah.. but this is afaik not the place to file bugs :)
[07:52] <puff> psusi:  See the first phrase in my comment, the part that ended in "to get the CDROM working again".
[07:52] <xophEr> Isnt there a driver that support the logitech mx500 'out of the box' ? without having to use xmodmap etc..
[07:52] <psusi> kemik: it is the help channel isn't it?
[07:52] <neighborlee> mutunus, its a known issue and on forums....in breezy badger forum..I just installed breezy so I dont know if im affected ( not everyone is apparantly)
[07:52] <sobersabre> Bad_Magic don't you think... if I am BitchXing I do know how to type startx without typos... ?
[07:52] <Chousuke> Is BitchX good?
[07:52] <robzon> Bad_Magic: hmm it probably tries to auto-configure (DHCP) and it waits to time-out
[07:52] <sambagirl> bitchx is old irc client very old
[07:52] <absenth> sobersabre: I have to use BitchX if I want to access irc from school.  SSH out to a box I have shell on, and launch it from there :)
[07:53] <kemik> psusi:  read topic "Found a bug? report it: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ "
[07:53] <funkyHat> Bad_Magic, sobersabre, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:53] <Jellybob> Does anyone know where I can find out how to setup the side buttons on my mouse as forward/back in Firefox?
[07:53] <puff> Considering the problems I had with installing vanilla ubuntu and trying to upgrade the kernel, is there a way to make it install a CPU-appropriate kernel from the start?
[07:53] <puff> Or architecture-appropriate.
[07:53] <sobersabre> ok. now to my problem: X server complains about missing fonts. breezy. where do I get the fonts ?
[07:53] <boxerboy29> what is vanilla ubuntu?
[07:53] <Chousuke> absenth: use Irssi. :(
[07:53] <Amaranth> puff: if you use a netintall version it gets the right kernel
[07:54] <puff> boxerboy29: "vanilla" is popular american slang for default, mainstream, normal, etc.
[07:54] <puff> Amaranth: ah-hah, hm.
[07:54] <absenth> Chousuke: irssi runs at the command line eh?  I might have to check that out.
[07:54] <boxerboy29> oh ok thank you
[07:54] <Chousuke> absenth: yes
[07:54] <Chousuke> Irssi is the best.
[07:54] <Chousuke> :(
[07:54] <NsOmNiAc> weird question .. why would anyone who's not in development of Ubuntu or assisting in the development of Breezy want to install it when it's not stable ?
[07:54] <Jellybob> NsOmNiAc: Because it's full of shiny new features ;)
[07:54] <Bad_Magic> sobersabre: you never know =P
[07:55] <Chousuke> They think they want the buggy new features.
[07:55] <absenth> NsOmNiAc: because we're SadoMasachists.
[07:55] <sobersabre> Bad_Magic what is this related to ?
[07:55] <bystander> NsOmNiAc, if they report bugs, they *are* helping
[07:55] <Bad_Magic> sobersabre Bad_Magic don't you think... if I am BitchXing I do know how to type startx without typos... ?
[07:55] <malv> firefox 1.07; I can't believe I am using the same browser
[07:55] <sobersabre> ah.
[07:55] <sobersabre> ok
[07:55] <NsOmNiAc> then flog yourself or cane yourself but wait for the official release
[07:55] <boxerboy29> nsomniac: to help the writters make it work for people that wait to install it
[07:55] <absenth> NsOmNiAc: or something like it.  Also, someone recommended Breezy as a LOT better at accessing Active Directory Resources.
[07:55] <puff> Amaranth: Which one is a netinstall at http://releases.ubuntu.com/hoary/
[07:55] <esac> is it safe to dist-upgrade and yes the -9 kernel yet ?
[07:55] <esac> s/yes/use
[07:55] <puff> Amaranth: Or is that an option I select during the intallation?
[07:56] <dooglus> esac: it's broken my framebuffer; otherwise good for me.
[07:56] <sobersabre> can somebody point me out to the fonts issues related X in breezy ?
[07:56] <boxerboy29> if people dont file bugs the dev. team doesnt know whats wrong and cant fix it
[07:56] <absenth> all I really want is Ubuntu + the AD portions of Xandros Business Linux
[07:56] <mutunus> neighborlee, thanks... I suspect they'll set it right soon...
[07:56] <esac> dooglus: it broke my wireless card and X wouldn't start
[07:56] <robzon> esac: I've just upgraded to -9 and I'm still alive, so I think you can try it :)
[07:56] <sobersabre> absenth what's about Xandros + AD ?
[07:56] <boxerboy29> sobersabre: what screen did you see it on?
[07:56] <Amaranth> puff: appearently it doesn't exist
[07:56] <Amaranth> puff:  i thought it did
[07:57] <neighborlee> mutunus, yuppers
[07:57] <Amaranth> puff: you can just install the vanilla version then install the 'kernel-image-<arch>' package and reboot
[07:57] <sobersabre> boxerboy29 what are you talking about ?
[07:57] <esac> it seems to be not allowing me to install linux-restricted-modules .. which i assume is what has my video card driver and wireless driver
[07:57] <crtr> how to stop the apache ?
[07:57] <esac> crtr: apache or httpd ?
[07:57] <absenth> sobersabre: they put together the tools to attach to a Windows Domain, without loosing hair, or going grey.  Wizard driven connection, that rivals windows ease.  (as far as attaching to a domain anyway)
[07:57] <boxerboy29> sobersabra: you font issue?
[07:57] <puff> Amaranth: That's what I did before... it started losing the 802.11 hardware when I resumed from suspend-to-disk.
[07:58] <Amaranth> puff: file a bug report
[07:58] <sobersabre> boxerboy29 my X server won't start, because its default font is "fixed" and it cannot be found.
[07:58] <^DodGeR^> havent seen ANY OS working properly with suspend-resume yet
[07:58] <sobersabre> I wonder which package has this font....
[07:58] <crtr> apache
[07:58] <absenth> ^DodGeR^: OSx does a fantastic job of Suspend-Resume
[07:58] <sobersabre> I snooped in /usr/X11R6/lib/fonts/misc
[07:58] <boxerboy29> sobersabre: ah i see and im guessing you just finished updates?
[07:58] <^DodGeR^> dont ahve a mac absenth
[07:58] <ubrindo> can't get 1024x768 resolution????
[07:58] <^DodGeR^> hehe
[07:58] <sobersabre> boxerboy29 true.
[07:59] <puff> Amaranth: I did... still trying to figure out what to do now.
[07:59] <K-Bay> sobersabre: sometimes, installing xfs helps
[07:59] <sobersabre> K-Bay if font is missing... would it help ?
[07:59] <IcemanV9> ^DodGeR^: win2k & xp did just fine with suspend & resume as well
[07:59] <puff> Tempted to just punt and go to debian, but I like the ubuntu style and attitude.
[07:59] <^DodGeR^> never worked for me on either IcemanV9
[08:00] <K-Bay> well it does the fonts by itself, fonts can get messy, but it helped me a few times ;]
[08:00] <esac> when i do a apt-get dist-upgrade it says that it has kept back 2 packages.. linux-restricted-modules. how do i install these ?
[08:00] <dr_willis> esac,  using warty?
[08:00] <sobersabre> K-Bay which xfs do you suggest is better... there are 3
[08:00] <boxerboy29> esac i rebooted than installed them cause there was a kernel install with them
[08:00] <Amaranth> esac: Trying apt-get install linux-restricted-modules to see what the problem is
[08:00] <esac> dr_willis: using breezy
[08:00] <K-Bay> the standard x font server
[08:00] <puff> Amaranth: Hm, interesting, I just went to check on my bug, searched for "resume" and found a slew of "unconfirmed" resume bugs.
[08:01] <IcemanV9> ^DodGeR^: ubuntu does not work with suspend & resume on mine, either *shrug* (maybe breezy might do well)
[08:01] <dr_willis> esac,  there was a kernel update as well.  i think boxerboy29  is on the right track
[08:01] <ubrindo> anyone help with setting resolution?
[08:01] <Amaranth> apokryphos: what is r?
[08:01] <esac> linux-restricted-modules-686-smp: Depends: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-686-smp but it is not installable
[08:01] <Jowi> sobersabre: xfonts-base, xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-scalable
[08:01] <boxerboy29> reboot and see if you than can install them
[08:01] <esac> but if i boot with the new kernel i lose wireless and X
[08:01] <apokryphos> Amaranth: registered nicks only can join; we use +r when spam-flow is high
[08:01] <familia> ola
[08:01] <Jowi> ubrindo: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" is the easiest way.
[08:01] <esac> (i.e., no internet)
[08:01] <Amaranth> esac: And now that hunt begins, try to apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-686-smp
[08:01] <^DodGeR^> i think suspend-resume is pointless anyways , my box boots in udner 30 seconds :)
[08:01] <Amaranth> apokryphos: that's +R
[08:02] <ubrindo> Jowi: I just did that and it didn't fix it
[08:02] <ubrindo> can only get 800x600 - 1024x768 has scanlines
[08:02] <Chii_chan> Hello
[08:02] <Bad_Magic> anyone know how to change the default delay for a dhcp timeout?
[08:02] <spike> hi there
[08:02] <apokryphos> Amaranth: no, +R is only registered nicks can talk
[08:02] <esac> Amaranth: i did and it just says the package is not available although it is referred to by another package
[08:02] <apokryphos> Amaranth: s/can/can't/
[08:02] <spike> can abybody help me with mobile phone and ifrared device?
[08:02] <spike> I'm kinda lost
[08:02] <Jowi> ubrindo: then the monitor settings are problaby off.
[08:02] <Amaranth> apokryphos: ah, okay
[08:02] <Jowi> !resolution
[08:02] <ubotu> from memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:02] <puff> Amaranth: Unfortunately, several are for breezy as well :-).
[08:03] <spike> I've read the howto, modprobed stuff, irattach, irdadump, but nothing came out
[08:03] <Jowi> ubrindo: try the link that ubotu spat out
[08:03] <spike> running hoary, kernel 2.6.10
[08:03] <boxerboy29> esac: the restricted modules rely on the updated kernel since the updated kernel isnt used till you reboot they wont install until you use the new kernel
[08:03] <Amaranth> esac: Perhaps it hasn't been built yet, you'll just have to wait and see.
[08:03] <Sam3773> The one question that decides if i install Ubuntu or not.. Does it have RPM dependancies?
[08:03] <sobersabre> Jowi is this fonts issue a common trouble with hoary-breezy upgrade ?
[08:03] <ubrindo> Jowi: not according to the manual they ain't - could it be something to do with the graphic card?
[08:03] <Amaranth> Sam3773: It doesn't use RPM.
[08:03] <Sam3773> ... Deb?
[08:03] <Jowi> sobersabre: i haven't made the upgrade yet. i wait until i need it
[08:03] <Amaranth> Sam3773: Yep.
[08:04] <bystander> Sam3773, the package manager takes care of deps
[08:04] <Sam3773> Ok so i would install if i could fix my 'No screens found' problem. Cheers. :)
[08:04] <esac> boxerboy29: is there a way i can force download of the restricted modules ? if i reboot with the new kernel i can't apt-get anymore
[08:04] <Sam3773> Does Breezy have more graphics drivers? My Nvidia won't work on hoary now for some reason.
[08:04] <Jowi> ubrindo: sometimes, even after xorg reconfigure, the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file has put your correct monitor values BUT has them commented out. please have a look at that file to see (Section Monitor)
[08:04] <boxerboy29> esac: after you reboot the update manager will have the updates that you left behind
[08:05] <Amaranth> esac: The package you need doens't exist yet.
[08:05] <Amaranth> esac: Let me see if it failed to build.
[08:05] <Jowi> ubrindo: it could also be video card issue, but it would be my first.
[08:05] <esac> Amaranth: ok, thanks
[08:06] <xukun> any know if the Logitech Premium USB Headset 350 is works on linux and for skype?
[08:06] <ekimus> hmm "ssh -N -L 8080:pluto:80 mars" should make localhost:8080 actually browse on pluto right?
[08:06] <Sam3773> Anyone working Ubuntu on a Nvidia 5200 FX?
[08:06] <^DodGeR^> got a box here with 5500FX Sam3773 , werks fien
[08:06] <^DodGeR^> fine even
[08:06] <boxerboy29> esac: no the only way to use updated kernel is to boot to it
[08:06] <Jellybob> Sam3773: Yup - works like a dream :)
[08:07] <apokryphos> Sam3773: no, but you really be alright with that. Did you follow the wiki?
[08:07] <Sam3773> Hmm i keep getting 'No screens found'
[08:07] <neopara> Does anyone known how to get evolution to work with Microsoft exchange server?
[08:07] <hmrocha> hello
[08:07] <Sam3773> Wiki.. Nope.. Ok i'm deleting Mandrake and putting Ubuntu on :)
[08:07] <hmrocha> i was running "dpkg-buildpackage" on a program
[08:07] <sobersabre> OK!!!
[08:07] <Jellybob> neopara: Is Outlook Web Access setup for your Exchange server?
[08:07] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Sam3773 about nvidia
[08:07] <hmrocha> but it has some unmet dependencies...
[08:07] <sobersabre> Jowi, isn't Jowi Jupiter ?
[08:07] <Sam3773> ... he is :D
[08:07] <hmrocha> what is the comand to download all the dependencies automatically?
[08:07] <^DodGeR^> neopara, have u tried setting it to imap ? exchange is just a hax0red imap
[08:08] <hmrocha> i can't remember the command
[08:08] <sobersabre> anyway, Jowi you were right about xfs
[08:08] <sobersabre> :)
[08:08] <Amaranth> esac: Odd, everything seems to have built fine.
[08:08] <esac> speaking of neopara's question, does anybody know if evolution/evolution-exchange is able to use RPCHTTP ?
[08:08] <sobersabre> Thanks guys...
[08:08] <Jellybob> ^DodGeR^: Evolution can do the shared calendars and stuff as well
[08:08] <apokryphos> hmrocha: apt-get install <somepackage>   (or just use Synaptic)
[08:08] <neopara> jellybob: nope
[08:08] <sobersabre> I'll try to see about the kernel and special modules...
[08:08] <sobersabre> thanks and byebye
[08:08] <esac> Amaranth: ok i'll try rebooting with the new kernel then. which means i'll have to remove nvidia from the drivers section of X. isn't this a pain for most people to have to do this on a kernel upgrade ?
[08:08] <^DodGeR^> nice Jellybob :)
[08:08] <hmrocha> apokryphos, i don't want to install a package, i want to build a package
[08:09] <neopara> ^DodGer^: nope, but I want the calender support
[08:09] <Amaranth> esac: Well, breezy isn't stable yet. :)
[08:09] <apokryphos> hmrocha: if you're building a package (just saw that), you might want to apt-get build-dep <package>  ..on the old one you have
[08:09] <Sam3773> Its fine, but i can't actually see synaptic because i can't startx.
[08:09] <hmrocha> apokryphos, ok, i'll try
[08:09] <Jellybob> neopara: Install evolution-exchange - you'll need OWA on the Exchange server for it to work, but if that's setup you should be able to connect just fine
[08:09] <puff> I'm really starting to resonate with that verse from the song "Every OS Sucks":  "It's free!" they say, if you can get it to run, the Geeks say, "Hey, that's half the fun!", Yeah, but I got a girlfriend, and things to get done, the Linux OS SUCKS. (I'm sorry to say it, but it does.)
[08:09] <boxerboy29> esac: there is a way so you dont have to change the drivers as per the ubuntuguide
[08:09] <^DodGeR^> no clues what format the calendar has , prolly proprietary i'd recon though
[08:09] <neopara> Does the connector use OWA
[08:10] <Jellybob> neopara: Yup
[08:10] <esac> boxerboy29: ubuntuguide is no more
[08:10] <apokryphos> puff: #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:10] <boxerboy29> esac it is just not at that site
[08:10] <neopara> Jellybob: K, thanks I need to get that setup
[08:10] <spstarr_work> is Network Manager work for ipw2200?
[08:10] <apokryphos> esac: it still exists, nfortunatley
[08:10] <spstarr_work> it crashes the NetworkManager daemon :/
[08:10] <Sam3773> HMM can i install with my onboard intel GFX, then when im in the x-window set up the Nvidia card and swap it over?
[08:10] <hmrocha> apokryphos, it didn't work
[08:10] <hmrocha> apokryphos, i'll apt-get install all the dependencies
[08:10] <apokryphos> hmrocha: what are you trying to build?
[08:10] <hmrocha> apokryphos, praat
[08:10] <ekimus> apokryphos: gremlins :)
[08:11] <hmrocha> apokryphos, it's not available in hoary, only breezy
[08:11] <ubrindo> Jowi: just read the ubotu link - Ive done that - definitely not commented out - 1024x768 does run but has crazy scanlines
[08:11] <Amaranth> esac: Odd, I'm looking right at this package in the archives
[08:11] <boxerboy29> my understanding within next week or so the breezy guide should be out
[08:11] <hmrocha> apokryphos, i use breezy in this computer
[08:11] <Amaranth> esac: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-686-smp_<IP_ADDRESS>-7_i386.deb
[08:11] <hmrocha> apokryphos, apt-get source praat
[08:11] <apokryphos> hmrocha: oh, then you can't use that, of course.
[08:11] <Amaranth> esac: I don't know why you can't install it
[08:11] <esac> puff: i totally agree. microsoft says 'where do you want to go today'. i say 'which pile of crap do you want to step in today'. of course if i have to step in crap, i don't want to be charged for it :)
[08:11] <Sam3773> ... Anyone?
[08:11] <apokryphos> hmrocha: you could get the deb source like that (presuming you enable the breezy repo)
[08:11] <hmrocha> apokryphos, moved the 3 files and the dir to the hoary computer and did "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot"
[08:11] <esac> Amaranth: i'll download it and try a reboot and see once i am in the new kernel if i can download it
[08:11] <boxerboy29> amaranth: look at the kernel he hasnt fully updated the kernel yet
[08:11] <hmrocha> apokryphos, i didn't enable the breezy repo
[08:12] <apokryphos> hmrocha: then what would you do with the apt-get source?
[08:12] <ubrindo> Jowi: just read the ubotu link - Ive done that - definitely not commented out - 1024x768 does run but has crazy scanlines
[08:12] <hmrocha> apokryphos, i download the source in breezy, and build the package in hoary
[08:12] <juste> hi, anyone experiencing long GNOME startup times after recent updates?
[08:12] <hmrocha> apokryphos, it should work right?
[08:12] <Sam3773> -Pulls out whip- Anyone?!
[08:12] <Jellybob> esac, puff: Windows has problems, Linux has problems, that's just how things are. Ranting on about it does nothing to change things.
[08:12] <Jowi> sorry, i was away
[08:12] <apokryphos> hmrocha: so you *did* enable the repo to get it :)
[08:12] <ubrindo> Jowi: just read the ubotu link - Ive done that - definitely not commented out - 1024x768 does run but has crazy scanlines
[08:13] <hmrocha> apokryphos, i use breezy in this computer
[08:13] <esac> Jellybob: you are saying just what i said :)
[08:13] <apokryphos> hmrocha: I think it would need a bit of tweaking, but sure
[08:13] <Jowi> ubrindo: wierd wierd. "scanlines".... CRT or LCD monitor? What graphic card?
[08:13] <Chii_chan> My computer seems to be booting up as fast as it first did when I installd ubuntu
[08:13] <Chii_chan> *installed
[08:13] <hmrocha> apokryphos, i'll apt-get install all the dependencies and try to build the package, brb
[08:13] <Sam3773> Gonna' try anyway.. If it breaks, i'll go emo.
[08:13] <ubrindo> CRT ATI 3D
[08:13] <SanderD> Hi. Can I change primary partitions to logical partitions? Windows doesn't seem to support more than two (?) partitions, even though I've got a SATA hdd.
[08:14] <Jowi> ubrindo: 1024x768 at what refresh rate do you want?
[08:14] <ubrindo> 85Hz
[08:14] <esac> Jellybob: but i try to help. for the past 3 days ive come in here screaming that my computer keeps hanging on me with breezy. just cold freeze. i dont know what to do. i want to help. but nobody responds with any steps i might take to help them get it debugged.
[08:14] <juste> anyone has ideas why gnome-session takes a long time to start?
[08:14] <Jowi> ubrindo: in the monitor section add: VertRefresh 85
[08:14] <ubrindo> ok
[08:15] <Jowi> ubrindo: did you install the driver for your card as well?
[08:15] <ubrindo> Jowi: currently has '	VertRefresh	50-160 '
[08:15] <Chii_chan> I have no idea what could be causing it to freeze >.<  Just installed it earlier today and downloaded all the updates
[08:15] <Chii_chan> all of them installed but one
[08:15] <Sam3773> ... Can i install Hoary with my onboard graphics card, then install the Nvidia drivers in X-Window then Use my Nvidia card?!
[08:15] <Jowi> ubrindo: you can force set it to 85 if you know that works with 1024x768 for you.
[08:16] <ubrindo> errr on the driver I just ran the config script
[08:16] <Jowi> !ati
[08:16] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[08:16] <ubrindo> ok I will try the 85Hz thing
[08:16] <Chii_chan> Not sure of any specifics though >.<  Just running this on my laptop which has a built in radeon igp345m
[08:17] <occy> My sound has been working on my laptop forever.  I rebooted last night(haven't changed or upgrade anything)  and now it has just stopped working.
[08:17] <Chilango> Hello people. Just trying to install hedge hoag on a k8n motherboard from Asus, and I have a problem trying to find the sata disk.
[08:17] <Sam3773> .. Once installed, can i stick KDE on it? :D
[08:17] <Jowi> Mmmmm, time for some popcorn
[08:17] <bombela> Hello all ! I am frenchy :D
[08:18] <Chii_chan> ick... couldnt help with that >.<  I am deaf so I have no idea if the sound was working in the first place or not
[08:18] <Amaranth> Sam3773: you could just get kubuntu instead
[08:18] <bombela> linux is good... Y a des franais ici ?
[08:18] <deFrysk> !fr
[08:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:18] <klaym> hello! I have a problem with flash player on Mozilla Firefox. I can watch animations fine but when I try to play a game (=involving pressing keyboard buttons), the animation gets extremely slow, and halts completely during the time the key is pressed. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[08:18] <bombela> cool
[08:19] <Sam3773> ... I could.
[08:19] <frank23> bombela: pour de l'aide en francais, essaie #ubuntu-fr
[08:19] <bombela> thanks
[08:19] <ompaul> Seveas, om?
[08:19] <Amaranth> klaym: for the most part flash on linux sucks, blame macromedia
[08:19] <ompaul> Seveas, pm even :-/
[08:19] <bombela> lol klaym
[08:19] <Sam3773> Can i install Hoary with my onboard graphics card, then install the Nvidia drivers in X-Window then Use my Nvidia card?!
[08:19] <nightswim> why not
[08:19] <bombela> by, i go to #ubuntu-fr
[08:19] <slashzul> how do i install ubunto after booting off "live"session?
[08:20] <frank23> slashzul: you need the install cd
[08:20] <klaym> oh dang. so this is a normal 'feature' ?
[08:20] <othernoob> mmh, how do i kill a process when kill 1234 doesn't seem to work?
[08:20] <Seveas> ompaul, anytime
[08:20] <slashzul> they should install a quickie -install cause I know it worked script ...
[08:20] <IcemanV9> othernoob: kill -9 1234
[08:20] <zeitgeist_y2k> othernoob, have you tried killall 1234?
[08:20] <othernoob> zeitgeist_y2k: yes..
[08:20] <ubrindo_> Jowi: nope didn't work although 800x600 looks better now at 85Hz....
[08:21] <GuBA> configure: error: Cannot find MySQL header files under /where??
[08:21] <othernoob> IcemanV9: didn't work either..
[08:21] <^DodGeR^> Sam3773, i have dual SLI grafix cards , ubuntu finds them both fine , and glx works
[08:21] <frank23> GuBA: you need some kind of mysql-dev package
[08:21] <ubrindo_> Jowi: nope didn't work although 800x600 looks better now at 85Hz....
[08:22] <IcemanV9> seriously? -9 means force kill
[08:22] <shadey216> hey guys i'm trying to install Samba on my Ubuntu 5.04 but i keep getting an error "Depends: samba-common (=3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed".  Is my sources.list messed up?
[08:22] <othernoob> IcemanV9: yea, but it's still there..
[08:22] <IcemanV9> othernoob: try to run top, then kill it from there?
[08:22] <GuBA> frank23, is libmysqlclient14-dev ... thx ...
[08:23] <Jowi_away> ubrindo_: i'm just on my way out. if that did nothing, and you have followed the link ubotu gave you for ATI, and you did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then i'm out of ideas....
[08:23] <Sam3773> Could me putting the wrong PCI bus for the Nvidia into xorg.conf cause a no screens found error?
[08:23] <Frafra> !java amd64
[08:23] <othernoob> IcemanV9: tried that as well before..
[08:23] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Frafra
[08:23] <ubrindo_> no problesm Jowi thanks anyway
[08:23] <samu2> is there a shockwave plugin?
[08:23] <Chii_chan> Just making sure... ubuntu is a version of linux based off of debian correct?  Trying to figure out if I downloading the right version of ndiswrapper >.<
[08:23] <Sam3773> ..
[08:24] <Jowi_away> cu abit later on. bye guys
[08:24] <Sam3773> Has linux EVER had a shockwave plugin?
[08:24] <IcemanV9> othernoob: w0w. okay. try to find the parent process .. and kill it
[08:24] <othernoob> IcemanV9: uhm, how'd i find that?
[08:24] <deFrysk> Chii_chan, yes but make sure to use ubuntu repos, not debian repo's
[08:24] <Seveas> Sam3773, no
[08:24] <Chii_chan> repos?
[08:25] <Sam3773> It was retorical.. Thanks anyway :D
[08:25] <Chii_chan> Im sorry to bother, but what is a repos?
[08:25] <deFrysk> !tell Chii_chan about repositories
[08:25] <zeitgeist_y2k> Chii_chan, repos = repository
[08:25] <silas_j> hi Seveas, sorry to change nickname a lot of times... does it prejudice something?
[08:25] <psusi> can someone explain to me why initramfs is any better than initrd?
[08:25] <IcemanV9> othernoob: type 'ps aux |grep -i <whatever you're trying to kill app>' ... e.g. ps aux |grep -i xmms
[08:25] <Seveas> silas_j, guess you're not a spambot sorry
[08:25] <Chii_chan> ty ^^
[08:25] <silas_j> Seveas, no prob.
[08:26] <QMario> Hello Seveas!!! :)
[08:26] <othernoob> IcemanV9: well, i've been doing that..albeit without the -i..for the last 5 mins.. :/
[08:26] <boxerboy29> there are spambots on irc too?
[08:26] <samu2> so the answer was no?
[08:26] <othernoob> IcemanV9: and the -i doesn't offer more processes..
[08:26] <QMario> How do I split an OpenOffice Presentation file in half? :-/
[08:27] <IcemanV9> othernoob: i don't know anymore to tell ya. :(
[08:27] <shadey216> hey guys i'm trying to install Samba on my Ubuntu 5.04 but i keep getting an error "Depends: samba-common (=3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed".  Is my sources.list messed up?
[08:27] <Ninjew> Does anybody know of any programs off the top of their head that can read APEv3 tagged MP3s  in Linux?
[08:27] <Frafra> !java
[08:27] <ubotu> To install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java or, for Sun's Java, ask me about !sunjava
[08:27] <IcemanV9> othernoob: what was it were you trying to kill??
[08:27] <othernoob> IcemanV9: me neither..k3b..
[08:27] <deFrysk> shadey216, could be , put it in pastebin
[08:27] <Seveas> rem uiaoUk
[08:27] <Seveas> dang
[08:27] <shadey216> pastebin?  Sorry still sort of new to Ubuntu
[08:27] <othernoob> IcemanV9: i'm almost tempted to reboot :(
[08:27] <Seveas> !tell shadey216 about paste
[08:28] <deFrysk> !tell shadey216 about pastebin
[08:28] <IcemanV9> othernoob: wait a minute ... is your cd drive empty?? OR cd is running like crazy and won't stop/eject?
[08:28] <deFrysk> :D
[08:28] <QMario> Seveas, what does +r do?
[08:28] <boxerboy29> i am a +e whatever that means
[08:28] <othernoob> IcemanV9: my cddrive is empty
[08:29] <QMario> Seveas?
[08:29] <occy> can someone please help me with my sound?
[08:29] <IcemanV9> empty? it should be killed easily. hmm.
[08:29] <Seveas> keeps al unregistered users and crappy spambots out
[08:29] <shadey216> One sec on pastebin
[08:29] <deFrysk> !tell occy about ask
[08:30] <occy> I don't have a specific question, sadly.
[08:30] <occy> sound isn't working[tm]
[08:30] <occy> heh
[08:30] <othernoob> IcemanV9: i thought so too.. if it hadn't been empty and/or was spinning i'd have umounted it first and/or ejected..
[08:30] <occy> When I installed Ubuntu the first time, it just worked.
[08:30] <occy> it worked for 2 months.
[08:30] <QMario> Seveas, so we are not fixed yet?
[08:30] <occy> and I rebooted last night and it stopped working.
[08:30] <occy> :(
[08:30] <QMario> !Botsnack
[08:30] <ubotu> :)
[08:30] <Chii_chan> ok, so there is a unbutu version of this program then?
[08:30] <shadey216> here is the pastebin of my sources.list http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2466
[08:32] <othernoob> first time i'm having problems killing a process.. :/
[08:33] <deFrysk> shadey216, seems to look fine , what are you tring to install ?
[08:33] <ompaul> othernoob what are you trying to kill?
[08:33] <othernoob> ompaul: k3b
[08:34] <shadey216> i'm trying to install samba, samba-common is installed
[08:34] <Seveas> pkill -9 k3b
[08:34] <ompaul> othernoob, try killall k3b
[08:34] <deFrysk> othernoob, dont we all :D
[08:34] <shadey216> i get the error samba: Depends: samba-common (=3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed
[08:34] <ompaul> othernoob, did that work?
[08:34] <deFrysk> shadey216, and you are installing samba with synaptic ?
[08:34] <shadey216> correct
[08:35] <othernoob> Seveas: didn't work, ompaul: no, tried that before deFrysk: i like k3b
[08:35] <IcemanV9> pkill? never saw it before .. hmm .. checking out the manpage on pkill
[08:35] <ompaul> othernoob, have you any graphics from the application on the screen?
[08:35] <deFrysk> othernoob, I was just kidding
[08:35] <othernoob> ompaul: no, that's why i'm trying to kill it
[08:35] <GuBA> configure: error: Cannot find MySQL header files under /usr/include/mysql --> :'(
[08:35] <Chii_chan> for these unbuntu repositories, when I download something is this the actual program which will run with unbuntu?
[08:35] <ompaul> othernoob, whats its pid?
[08:35] <deFrysk> shadey216, disable backports refresh and try again
[08:35] <othernoob> 8581..
[08:35] <shadey216> ok
[08:36] <ompaul> othernoob, actually grab its line from top and paste it into _pastebin_
[08:36] <deFrysk> stupid backport crap
[08:36] <pixman> Hello :)
[08:36] <pixman> Damn, ubuntu is so strange.
[08:36] <shadey216> I disabled my 2 backports and sadly i still get the same error
[08:36] <pixman> It's such a fun to work with ... :)
[08:37] <deFrysk> shadey216, darn backports
[08:37] <ompaul> pixman, no, not accurate not strange :)
[08:37] <pixman> if any developers are around... kudos to you, great work ;)
[08:37] <Lars_G> shadey216: Disabled, and ran "apt-get update" right?
[08:37] <IcemanV9> pgrep .. a neat way to find out the process instead of 'ps aux |grep k3b'
[08:37] <pixman> ompaul, oh well :)
[08:37] <Chii_chan> linux in general is strange to me, but Ill learn it eventually, lol
[08:37] <shadey216> through Synaptic, I had it update
[08:37] <pixman> I've been using Linux for years
[08:37] <Chii_chan> Ive been using it for 2 hours :p
[08:37] <pixman> but Ubuntu is a great gift to me
[08:37] <deFrysk> Chii_chan, linux is fun to master (eventually)
[08:37] <pixman> especially the development tree, breezy badger
[08:37] <Absenth> What's Linux?
[08:37] <Chii_chan> I know... lol I have patience
[08:37] <LinuxJones> pixman, what's so strange about it ?
[08:37] <boxerboy29> im just mad as hell at linux today
[08:37] <benkong2> syskonnect gigabit ethernet driver (skge) complains that it cannot map device registers when I boot breezy on my AMD64. Everything works but do I need to be concerned or is there a way to fix this?
[08:37] <pixman> this one will REALY rock =)
[08:38] <Slarti-> anyone around that could help with an nforce sound problem?
[08:38] <pixman> LinuxJones, that everytime I use it I have more fun to work with it :)
[08:38] <LinuxJones> pixman, heh
[08:38] <secureboot> is it possible to install ubuntu onto a single root LVM parition, or do you need a /boot to be a separate physical partition?
[08:38] <ompaul> pixman, not will, does :)
[08:38] <pixman> LinuxJones, nowadays use it for everything... doing music, capturing tv shows, programming etc.
[08:38] <pixman> ompaul, ain't released yet
[08:38] <LinuxJones> pixman, yes it's wonderfull
[08:38] <othernoob> http://pastebin.com/372193
[08:38] <deFrysk> shadey216, possibly backports broke some deps ?
[08:38] <Chii_chan> Am curious about these repositories... basically from what I read, they are versions of the program which are compatible with that system.  Right?
[08:39] <pixman> I just foudn out about the Epiphanny RSS extension
[08:39] <pixman> cool thing
[08:39] <Chii_chan> Or am I missing some concept?
[08:39] <pixman> now I can feed liferea directly when I surf.
[08:39] <psusi> on a 486 sx/25 no less ;)
[08:39] <pixman> I love the concept of gnome... simple & functional
[08:39] <LinuxJones> pixman, I wish there were some Professional Grade Video Editing tools to run on it :(
[08:39] <deFrysk> shadey216, did you use ubuntuguide to set up hoary ?
[08:39] <Absenth> psusi, that's pretty close to the last time I did it.
[08:39] <pixman> LinuxJones, tried Cinelerra?
[08:39] <pixman> it's great
[08:39] <pixman> and there is still MainActor
[08:39] <LinuxJones> pixman, too cumbersome
[08:39] <Absenth> psusi, I just remember downloading the floppy images from execpc in Milwaukee
[08:39] <shadey216> No, i just installed it myself
[08:39] <puff> Jellybob: I'm pretty much in the same place, though on hoary.  Nobody seems to have any sort of suggestions for what t do.
[08:40] <othernoob> ompaul: any ideas with that line?
[08:40] <psusi> heh.... sunsite.unc.edu
[08:40] <pixman> mh... LinuxJones I'm not sure but I think there was some very good program starting with P for video editing... gtk based afair
[08:40] <deFrysk> shadey216, no clue sorry
[08:40] <puff> So... I think I'm at the point where I just want to get back to where I was when I just had a default install of hoary.  Is there any way to do that?
[08:40] <puff> Or should I just reformat and reinstlal?
[08:40] <Absenth> I wonder if any of the old dialup BBS's are still around....
[08:40] <LinuxJones> pixman, pitiv but it's still in Alpha
[08:40] <shadey216> no problem, thanks for trying, i'll keep hunting
[08:41] <psusi> I had more fun though the time windows on my dual PII-233 crapped out and I downloaded the debian boot floppy from a computer on campus and managed to boot it at home, dial up the modem, and download everything else needed to set up a functional system
[08:41] <pixman> LinuxJones, ah, that one, right. tnx :)
[08:41] <psusi> now I don't even have a floppy drive... floppies suck
[08:41] <QMario> Hello LinuxJones!!! :)
[08:41] <deFrysk> shadey216, be careful with backports it can break stuff
[08:41] <LinuxJones> QMario, long time no see :)
[08:41] <pixman> LinuxJones, didn't know it's still alpha... a matter of time ... or work one could do maybe yourself :)
[08:41] <funkyHat> psusi, i've done that install before :P
[08:41] <psusi> I wrote a floppy disk driver once.... biggest pile of shit hardware ever designed
[08:42] <pixman> LinuxJones, btw, so far you can use virtualdub for video editing through wine...
[08:42] <psusi> funkyHat: right now I'm working on installing ubuntu from the livecd to my sata raid heh
[08:42] <pixman> works fine for me
[08:42] <Absenth> psusi, heh.  I have one computer with a floppy drive, JUST in case.  Also have one floppy drive in a box for bios upgrades for those few systems I have that won't boot to USB
[08:42] <LinuxJones> pixman, I am moving on Sunday across the country to goto work, no time :)
[08:42] <funkyHat> cool :)
[08:42] <pixman> I use Wine for a lot of software and it works properly
[08:42] <psusi> absenth: I just use bootable cds
[08:42] <pixman> even The Settlers 4 runs like on a windows machine.
[08:42] <Chii_chan> A repository is basically a version of a program that is compatible with that version of linux  correct?  Or am I missing something when I read that page that ubotu gave me
[08:42] <pixman> couldn't believe my eyes ;)
[08:42] <LinuxJones> pixman, In a few years there will be a few excellent ones
[08:43] <pixman> guess so.
[08:43] <boxerboy29> i thought it was more of an ftp site
[08:43] <pixman> 2006 will be such a great year for linux
[08:43] <pixman> a real bliss
[08:43] <othernoob> pixman: why?
[08:43] <puff> Okay, I guess i'll just try reformatting and reinstalling.
[08:44] <esac> yay, so i downloaded linux-restricted-modules and forced install with a dpkg -i and everything works
[08:44] <pixman> because projects reached a state of goodness and stability, that you can really be satisfied with the functionality of them
[08:44] <Absenth> does anyone here use Etherape?
[08:44] <Slarti-> just switched to ubuntu from mandrake and having a prob getting nvidia's nforce audio driver going, anyone here able to help
[08:44] <esac> even after rebooting with -9 it wouldnt let me dist-upgrade and get those though
[08:44] <pixman> and gnome becomes more and more seamlessly integrated...
[08:44] <psusi> absenth: the other day I downloaded a hard disk confidence tester program... it came as a dos bootable floppy image... I just burned it to a cd... heh
[08:44] <dr_willis> wowsers. :P
[08:44] <pixman> it's  become so easy to install and use Linux, especially with Ubuntu.
[08:45] <Chii_chan> It may seem easy to you but it is still quite scary if someone doesnt know much :/
[08:45] <pixman> I'm crazy about this one... and I used debian luckily for years. I'm so happy a debian-based distribution made it so far
[08:45] <dr_willis> on that 386-modules-restricted held back issue. I had to reboot.. Uninstall them, then reinstall them.
[08:45] <Slarti-> got the driver built and installed and managed to kill the intel alsa driver and the nvsound driver shows under lsmod but it just aint playing ball
[08:45] <dr_willis> since i dident have the nvidia modules othewise.  had to do this from the console.
[08:46] <boxerboy29> is there a site that tells you what the filesystem error code mean?
[08:46] <crtr> how to see my kernel version ?
[08:46] <dr_willis> uname -a
[08:46] <deFrysk> crtr, uname -r
[08:46] <crtr> 10x
[08:46] <dr_willis> :)
[08:46] <deFrysk> :D
[08:46] <twibbler> deFrysk: help ...... breezy upgrade xterm wont start ....
[08:46] <Chii_chan> Okey... Im looking at the unbuntu repository page... what would ndiswrapper be under?
[08:46] <deFrysk> twibbler, ?
[08:47] <Chii_chan> or should I download everything?
[08:47] <IcemanV9> pixman: you're using epiphany, right? liferea is rss feed .. how was it? i have been looking for rss extension for epiphany for a while
[08:47] <deFrysk> twibbler, what are you doing ?
[08:47] <twibbler> deFrysk: on laptop .... at moment... desktop ... followed instructions ... for breezy upgrade .... rebooted ... xwindows not loading ... can get into command prompt ..
[08:48] <pixman> IcemanV9, perfectly fine. If you're on a site that provides a feed, there will be an icon in the status bar on the bottom of the epiphany window
[08:48] <pixman> then you click on it
[08:48] <deFrysk> twibbler, you ran the dist-upgrade ?
[08:48] <pixman> and it shows you a dialog and you click "Subscribe" and liferea offers a dialog with all the information already filled in ... and click ok => there you go =)
[08:48] <twibbler> deFrysk: yep ...
[08:48] <IcemanV9> very cool. that's what i am looking for. perfect. thks!
[08:49] <deFrysk> twibbler, first apt-get update again and apt-get dist-upgrade again
[08:49] <Myrtti> *yawn*
[08:49] <twibbler> deFrysk: ok already tried update but not upgrade ... will run now ...
[08:49] <deFrysk> twibbler, dist-upgrade
[08:50] <pixman> IcemanV9, liferea is in my opinion the best (most features) client for gnome
[08:50] <AndieB> hi all!
[08:50] <pixman> have fun :)
[08:50] <twibbler> deFrysk: yep dist-upgrade .. sorry being lazy with typing ...
[08:50] <ompaul> Myrtti, sleep 28000 :)
[08:50] <AndieB> How is it you do to config SAMBA with a password so that a Windows client can access the ubunut linux box?
[08:51] <Myrtti> that would be lovely
[08:51] <Myrtti> but BB-Fin stats in 10mins
[08:51] <morale> andieb, add it to the smbpasswd file 'smbpasswd -a [username] '
[08:51] <Absenth> to install KDE on my Hoary install, it would just be apt-get install kde?
[08:51] <morale> anyone have problems installing /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb? "error: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base"
[08:51] <deFrysk> twibbler, breezy can always have a bug/broken dep somewhere , i hope you understand that
[08:52] <Absenth> or is there a diffrent package name for the KDE system?
[08:52] <dr_willis> Absenth,  the KUBUNTU homepage tells ya what to do. they even have beta of the 3.5 kde there.
[08:52] <boxerboy29> how do you delete the Xcommon_1.08 and retry it from download?
[08:52] <Seveas> Absenth, try kubuntu-desktop
[08:52] <Dr_Fate> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[08:52] <dr_willis> morale,  i see same problem. but causing no issues that i can tell.
[08:52] <deFrysk> morale a possible solution is sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb
[08:52] <Seveas> boxerboy29, apt-get clean
[08:52] <morale> deFrysk, thanks
[08:52] <boxerboy29> ty seveas
[08:52] <crtr> what`s the newes kernel version for kubuntu ? 2.6.10-5 ?
[08:52] <Seveas> deFrysk, that's a bad one...
[08:52] <brodmann> hi, how come the sudo apt-get install w32codecs isn't working
[08:52] <AndieB> morale: Ah, thank you!
[08:52] <brodmann> i cant get those codecs
[08:53] <deFrysk> morale, Its a bad one Seveas says
[08:53] <Seveas> brodmann, it's not in the repos you use...
[08:53] <deFrysk> so if in doubt , dont
[08:53] <brodmann> where do i check that?
[08:53] <QMario> Hello ompaul!!! :)
[08:53] <Absenth> thanks guys.
[08:53] <QMario>
[08:54] <ompaul> QMario, good evening
[08:54] <twibbler> deFrysk: yep am well aware of that .... hence have laptop ll configured with hoary as back up in case .. with all data etc ..
[08:54] <QMario> Ompaul, are you evacuating from Hurricane Rita?
[08:54] <Alex_BO> HELLO!How can advice me a good channel to chat about Linux, not an help channel
[08:54] <esac> i just upgraded to 2.6.12-9 kernel and the nvidia driver is in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile ... what does that mean ?
[08:54] <boxerboy29> damnit same error
[08:54] <brodmann> well, it says that the package maybe obsolete
[08:54] <morale> fireglcontrol panel was working a while back until i upgraded breezy again and now im getting the same libexpat.so.0 error. anyone know why it is looking for a 64-bit shared library again?
[08:55] <deFrysk> twibbler, good stuff :)
[08:55] <Slarti-> fixed, nothing like asking frantically for help, winging it and fixing it yourself
[08:55] <Chii_chan> yeay!!! I found how to install ndiswrapper :D
[08:55] <IcemanV9> pixman: i don't see anything in the status bar .. is there something i need to tweak?
[08:55] <ompaul> QMario, emm I am about 8000k away
[08:55] <twibbler> deFrysk: had good experience of windoze ..... (And all its faults ...)....
[08:55] <dr_willis> ive see  that volatile stuff befor esac  not sure what the deal is with it.. let me see where mine is.
[08:55] <deFrysk> twibbler, hehe
[08:55] <pixman> IcemanV9, did you install the extensions?
[08:55] <Seveas> ompaul, sounds like a safe distance..
[08:56] <IcemanV9> yep
[08:56] <pixman> you must activate it
[08:56] <esac> dr_willis: thanks. i just want to make sure before i try to restart with the nvidia driver that everything is ok
[08:56] <dr_willis> esac,  yep - i got mine there as well.. working good. and a lot of other things
[08:56] <pixman> click in the menu on "tools->extensions"
[08:56] <_blake> ok, so I am trying to install this market analysis program, but it requires libodbc.so.1 So I follow the very simple instructions and compile and install this library ...but the market analysis program keeps giving me "required libraries not found : libodbc.so.1"
[08:56] <esac> dr_willis: ok, thanks
[08:56] <ompaul> Seveas, maybe :)
[08:56] <pixman> and activate News-Feed Abonnements
[08:56] <pixman> do you see it?
[08:56] <sambagirl> breezy did not update my system oh well brb
[08:56] <IcemanV9> i already am in there .. looking for the right extention ..
[08:56] <dr_willis> esac,  i had the modules-held back issue. rebooted to console. (x dident work) removed and reinstalled the restricted-modules package and it worked.
[08:56] <IcemanV9> no, it is not there.
[08:57] <esac> ok
[08:57] <Seveas> _blake, you need the unixodbc package
[08:57] <esac> what is the proper way to restart gdm ? is there a "services gdm restart" command ?
[08:57] <wesley> people, please help i can install the skype
[08:57] <Bicchi> Is it better to install ubuntu then kubuntu or the other way around? Pros / Cons ?
[08:57] <deFrysk> esac, ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:57] <wesley> i've read the docs... but, i'm using gnome
[08:57] <boxerboy29> defrysk: is it safe to force that file?
[08:58] <wesley> and i always receave an error..
[08:58] <corvid> Bicchi: personally dont care for kde..
[08:58] <twibbler> deFrysk: looks like it worked ... rebooting now .... think I know what the problem was as well ... which is very worth mentioning ..
[08:58] <_blake> Seveas, I have it
[08:58] <deFrysk> boxerboy29, its an ad hoc solution its not a proper solution
[08:58] <Bicchi> corvid: well thats your opinion, but it does not answer the question.
[08:58] <_blake> Seveas, I compiled and installed it but something still isnt right
[08:58] <IcemanV9> pixman: i restarted epiphany 2x already .. nothing shows up in extension mgr dialog
[08:58] <boxerboy29> well im gonna try it worse that can happen is i have to reformat it
[08:59] <boxerboy29> i hope :(
[08:59] <Seveas> _blake, unixodbc is in the repositories, you should not compile it manually
[08:59] <_blake> Seveas, the program i am trying to install still doesnt see it
[08:59] <Seveas> installing it manually usually put's in the wrong place
[09:00] <Chii_chan> After installing ndiswrapper would I need to reboot linux to be able to use it?
[09:00] <pixman> IcemanV9, uh... epiphany-extensions is installedyou said, right?
[09:00] <boxerboy29> i think it worked the red light went away
[09:00] <IcemanV9> pixman: yes
[09:00] <_blake> Seveas, ok, i did apt-cache search odbc
[09:00] <_blake> ill give that a try
[09:00] <Mario___> Hi,hi, anyone need any help?
[09:00] <ompaul> esac I would do this : /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:00] <pixman> IcemanV9, do you use breezy badger?
[09:00] <ompaul> Mario___, they will ask when they do :)
[09:00] <pixman> or gnome 2.10?
[09:00] <IcemanV9> pixman: nope - hoary
[09:01] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $ apt-file search libodbc.so.1
[09:01] <Seveas> unixodbc: usr/lib/libodbc.so.1
[09:01] <pixman> epiphany has the support only in  2.12
[09:01] <pixman> sorry =)
[09:01] <deFrysk> Mario___, dont ask to help, just help! ;p
[09:01] <Mario___> ok :p
[09:01] <wesley> how can i help me.. with skype isntalation
[09:01] <pixman> gnome 2.12 rocks big time
[09:01] <IcemanV9> pixman: interesting. ok.
[09:01] <pixman> it's so amazing ... even more fun than 2.10 and finally using cairo / glitz =)
[09:01] <_blake> Seveas, I am an idiot... nevermind
[09:02] <markuman> im on amd64 and want to creat x86 deb package. how to ./configure and make for x86
[09:02] <Absenth> _blake, since you said that you can't be an idiot.    On the command line, or in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:05] <cyphase> what's up with the firefox update and backports?
[09:05] <Absenth> anyone know how many ms lag you can have before telnet starts acting slow?
[09:05] <cyphase> it isn't working
[09:05] <deFrysk> something about mouse perhaps ? twibbler ?
[09:05] <DaSkreech> tritium: In the apt sources.list
[09:05] <tritium> DaSkreech: no, you need to have it listed
[09:06] <AndieB> I have a laptop, IBM Thinkpad on which I have installed Ubuntu Linux 5.04 Hedgehog. I have a slight question. When I choose "shutdown", the system takes the computer DOWN, but I never goes so far to really "power-off" so to speak. Anyone got an idea?
[09:06] <DaSkreech> tritium: That's not very helpful then
[09:06] <tritium> DaSkreech: why not put all the repos in yours sources.list?
[09:06] <DaSkreech> I have two packages that depend on packages that are not in my repository
[09:06] <twibbler> deFrysk: Fatal Server Error: could not opne default font ....
[09:06] <DaSkreech> tritium: I could but I'd have to do that every time I have this problem
[09:07] <Chii_chan> -i is for installing files, correct?
[09:07] <Absenth> AndieB, if/when this apt-get install finishes pulling down Kubuntu-desktop, I'll "shutdown" my gateway notebook and see if I have the same problem
[09:07] <DaSkreech> If the packages are monitored why can't http://packages.ubuntu.com list which repos they are in?
[09:07] <jori> were can i find a download of the wine package and the wine devel its not on the wine site ...
[09:07] <Absenth> AndieB, I suspect it has to do with a bios ACPI setting, but I'm definatly not an expert on the subject
[09:07] <DaSkreech> tritium: This is more a whine about the site than anything else :)
[09:08] <tritium> DaSkreech: no you wouldn't.  Leave them there.
[09:08] <DaSkreech> it takes forever to do an update :(
[09:08] <cyphase> How do I upgrade to Firefox 1.0.7 with backports enabled?
[09:08] <psusi> anyone ever used afs, coda, or some other network filesystem other than NFS or CIFS?
[09:08] <tritium> DaSkreech: then why not use ubotu's !info <packagename> <release> ?
[09:08] <deFrysk> twibbler, try sudo dpkd-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:08] <deFrysk> twibbler, and just run the defaults
[09:09] <deFrysk> twibbler, then sudo killall gdm
[09:09] <AndieB> Absenth: Well, when it was Windows XP installed on the laptop, it worked fine...
[09:09] <tritium> DaSkreech: which package?
[09:09] <deFrysk> twibbler, then sudo gdm
[09:09] <DaSkreech> !info libxine1c2 breezy
[09:09] <ubotu> libxine1c2: (the xine video/media player library, binary files), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-1ubuntu8 (breezy), Packaged size: 4243 kB, Installed size: 10372 kB
[09:09] <ui> !paste
[09:09] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[09:09] <DaSkreech> The repos is libs?
[09:09] <robzon> hmm is there a way to get flash running on a 64-bit system?
[09:09] <Absenth> AndieB, I know the shutdown feature works great in my XP install.  I'm just not sure how ubuntu hoary deals with it.  I figured I'd check it out and let you know.
[09:09] <Absenth> AndieB, I'm dual booting XP-Pro and Hoary currently.
[09:10] <AndieB> Absenth: I really thankfull!
[09:10] <twibbler> deFrysk: got it going in now ...
[09:10] <tritium> DaSkreech: main, if it does not specify
[09:10] <AndieB> Absenth: Ah, I just kicked out XP and running "pure" Ubuntu...   There aren't many domain administration tools avalible on the linux side, short of installing a Samba server, joining it to the domain, and doing administration that way.
[09:11] <NsOmNiAc> right
[09:11] <wesley> neighborlee
[09:11] <ui> i got an error trying to upgrade firefox now i cant open firefox
[09:11] <DaSkreech> cyphase: Right
[09:11] <wesley> wich topic???
[09:11] <cyphase> i didn't think so
[09:11] <cyphase> that would be stupid :)
[09:11] <DaSkreech> cyphase: Which probably naswers my problem
[09:11] <cyphase> lol
[09:11] <Absenth> AndieB, at the same time, there are very few Good network analysis tools that are free or cheep for windows:)
[09:11] <cyphase> ui, same here
[09:11] <cyphase> i'm trying to fix it now
[09:12] <Bicchi> when is the patch for firefox going to be put on ubuntu?
[09:12] <AndieB> Absenth: Ah, I get it. But isn't it possible to just administer the Domain via a LDAP tool that is available on the Linux?
[09:12] <Absenth> AndieB, it is.
[09:12] <Sam3773> I'm baaaaack.
[09:13] <Sam3773> Anywho. Reinstalling Hoary and have 3 (EE) errors on initial boot.
[09:13] <Absenth> AndieB, I just haven't had the time to figure out how to get openLDAP working correctly.
[09:13] <AndieB> Absenth: Ah, I C... :D
[09:13] <boxerboy29> :) the updates gave better desktop options
[09:13] <ompaul> Sam3773, paste your dmesg output into paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:13] <Absenth> I just want to know how to change the background between the GDM login, and the Desktop
[09:14] <Mudchains> what is the standart root pw after a install?
[09:14] <ompaul> !tell Mudchains about root
[09:14] <Absenth> it's brown, and boring.   would that be a gnome "splash screen" from art.gnome.org?
[09:14] <deFrysk> !tell Mudchains about sudo
[09:14] <ompaul> Mudchains, there is none see the message from ubotu
[09:14] <Mudchains> hmm
[09:14] <Mudchains> but when I wanna do root shell
[09:14] <ui> !ping
[09:14] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, ui.
[09:14] <seatouch> !tell me about sudo
[09:14] <Mudchains> I need to fill root password
[09:15] <ompaul> Mudchains, no it is your password
[09:15] <deFrysk> Mudchains, just read it ok ?
[09:15] <ompaul> Mudchains, welcome to sudo land
[09:15] <wesley> people.. culd you help me with skype isntallation
[09:15] <Absenth> ok BRB, AndieB I'll let you know how the "shutdown" goes on my Centrino based Gateway
[09:15] <Mario___> sure wesley, what you need?
[09:15] <ui> firefox doesnt work :(
[09:15] <Sam3773> What's the Ubuntu hoary default root password?
[09:15] <Mario___> new beta version ui??
[09:15] <Sam3773> toor?
[09:15] <ui> i was uograding
[09:15] <cyphase> Mario__, the 1.0.7 upgrade
[09:15] <cyphase> with backports enabled
[09:16] <Mario___> I am currently using Firefox 1.5 Beta and it works perfectly
[09:16] <AndieB> Absenth: Do you know where I can find the "boot up" script for Linux, like the old fashioned Windows 95 autoexec.bat? So I can manage what DAEMONs to autostart when powering up my linux box?
[09:16] <ui> but i got an error
[09:16] <Mario___> try to upgrade to 1.5 if its not a problem to you
[09:16] <ui> upograding
[09:16] <ui> now i cant open it
[09:16] <funkyHat> how does one boot to a CD on an eMac with a windows keyboard?
[09:16] <Mario___> :/
[09:16] <Mario___> just try do download a 1.5 beta version from mozilla's page :/
[09:16] <Mudchains> ah ok I have read it now
[09:16] <Mudchains> ok
[09:16] <funkyHat> *boot from
[09:16] <bystander> !tell AndieB about bum
[09:16] <roitto> hi
[09:17] <ui> i would paste the error but i cant paste it T.T
[09:17] <Mario___> hi rroito
[09:17] <Mario___> :/
[09:17] <ui> but i cant get into the mozilla page
[09:18] <deFrysk> ui, just use the ubuntu packages
[09:18] <deFrysk> they work fine and are supported here
[09:18] <cyphase> deFrysk, the update breaks backports
[09:18] <cyphase> then you get stuck
[09:18] <Mario___> ui, do you have any IM messenger??
[09:18] <twibbler> deFrysk: wont boot know past checking battery state ... guess I need to reinstall from iso image ?.
[09:18] <Mario___> I'll send you :/
[09:18] <cyphase> ui, use epiphany to get into mozilla.org
[09:18] <deFrysk> cyphase, backoprts brakes more that=n just that, dont use backports
[09:19] <Absenth> AndieB, Went down like a champ in my case
[09:19] <cyphase> or whatever other browser
[09:19] <ui> im using opera
[09:19] <ui> thanks
[09:19] <Chii_chan> I need the drivers to get my wireless built in lan card to work, would I be safer getting them from my windows xp directory/partition?
[09:19] <ui> :D
[09:19] <Absenth> wow, that sounded bad.
[09:19] <Chii_chan> or should I attempt to download them
[09:20] <funkyHat> how does one boot from a CD on an eMac with a windows keyboard?
[09:20] <Sam3773> Does consol have a text editor that i can use if i cant get to X-Window?
[09:20] <Sam3773> console*
[09:20] <Absenth> funkyHat, hold C on the keyboard before the beep.
[09:20] <funkyHat> nano
[09:20] <funkyHat> thanks
[09:20] <Sam3773> Cheers
[09:20] <deFrysk> !tell Mudchains about apt-get
[09:20] <prabu^> anyone got Tomcat 5.0.28 + MySQL working ?
[09:20] <deFrysk> !tell Mudchains about synaptic
[09:21] <DaSkreech> !tell DaSkreech about apt-get
[09:21] <Absenth> funkyHat, I assume an e-mac is similar to my 12" ibook anyway.
[09:21] <funkyHat> probably :)
[09:21] <Mudchains> ke thanx :+
[09:24] <Sam3773> '(WW) NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:2:10:0) found' Anyone know anything about that?
[09:25] <seatouch> anyone on?
[09:25] <kemik> !anyone
[09:25] <ubotu> I guess anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[09:25] <seatouch> hehe
[09:25] <seatouch> :p
[09:26] <Absenth> ubotu, Bots with attitude.....  I love it.  :)
[09:26] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Absenth
[09:26] <DaSkreech> I don;t know. Does anyone agree?
[09:26] <seatouch> well can anyone tell if i have ntfs partions will they be read by the ubuntu
[09:26] <psusi> is there a better network filesystem than nfs or cifs?
[09:26] <kemik> that works yes
[09:26] <kemik> reading=yes, writing=not without hassle
[09:26] <psusi> seatouch: yes... ubuntu can read ntfs
[09:26] <kemik> !ntfs
[09:27] <kemik> !tell seatouch about ntfs
[09:27] <KrLoS> hi peolpe
[09:27] <KrLoS> there are some body closed to mako
[09:27] <kemik> psusi:  noone worked on it i guess? ;)
[09:27] <KrLoS> please
[09:27] <Absenth> seatouch, there are a couple of packages that allow you to write to NTFS, however last time I checked most were pretty particular about kernel versions.
[09:27] <Sam3773> Whats the command to configure xorg again? :D
[09:27] <cyphase> ui, i fixed it
[09:28] <psusi> ummm... isn't it as simple as compiling the kernel/module with write support enabled?
[09:28] <bystander> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:28] <Sam3773> Cheers
[09:28] <moparfan90> hello all
[09:29] <bystander> psusi, thank the nice folks in Redmond for not releasing their specs of ntfs
[09:29] <dsas> psusi: it's mostly undocumented...
[09:29] <psusi> it's been figured out
[09:30] <Chii_chan> I need the drivers to get my wireless built in lan card to work, would I be safer getting them from my windows xp directory, or should I get them off of the web?
[09:30] <psusi> you can read all about it
[09:30] <KrLoS> hi
[09:30] <Sam3773> WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[09:30] <Chii_chan> ?
[09:30] <Sam3773> I have X-window working. I love you all.
[09:30] <ui> cyphase: how did you fixed?
[09:30] <psusi> Helen Custer gave a good overview in her book 10 years ago... then the guys who made the ntfs driver for linux just had to figure out the details
[09:30] <Sam3773> No more 'No screens found' Errors :D
[09:30] <cyphase> ui, you have to uninstall both firefox's
[09:31] <cyphase> 'firefox', 'firefox-gnome-support', 'mozilla-firefox', 'mozilla-firefox-gnome-support'
[09:31] <ui> cyphase : gonna try
[09:31] <cyphase> i disabled backports, but i don't think you need to
[09:31] <cyphase> try without disabling it first
[09:31] <Absenth> I just want to know why firefox has the Prefs, under Edit in linux, and Under Tools in Windows
[09:32] <Chii_chan> o.o I think linux runs better on laptops than does xp, lol
[09:32] <cyphase> yep, ui, it's loding
[09:32] <cyphase> loading*
[09:32] <moparfan90> is there a package for svu?
[09:32] <gearry> I have some general questions about lvm
[09:33] <wesley> Mario__, please, i have a big problem
[09:33] <gearry> I created 1 large lvm group
[09:33] <mk4evr> hi @LL;-)
[09:33] <Sam3773> Ahhh when Vista comes out i think Ubuntu will be my main OS :D
[09:33] <Sam3773> Cheers for all your help! Bye!
[09:33] <gearry> and then created various logical volumes
[09:33] <wesley> i 'm a newbie on unbuntu
[09:33] <Absenth> Chii_chan, I have mixed views.  I don't think linux takes advatage of all the power saving features my Pentium-M has avalible.
[09:33] <gearry> thinking I would put 1 partition on each lv
[09:33] <wesley> and now.. i need so much install the skype...
[09:33] <gearry> is that they way I should do it?
[09:33] <wesley> i've read many docs..
[09:33] <ompaul> gearry, putting it all on one line makes it easy to follow, (not that I know anything about lvm but what your doing is hard to follow)
[09:34] <wesley> but even know i cant to do it..
[09:34] <wesley> HELP ME PLEASE...
[09:34] <wesley> :-)
[09:34] <Absenth> Chii_chan,  on the otherhand, it's faster, and works pretty well out of the box unlike XP, which required I jump through flaming hoops over the chasim of doom to get working correclty.
[09:34] <jcohen85> since upgrading to firefox 1.0.7 i'm seeing a large grey bar under the status bar (perhaps 4-5x the height of the status bar) with a red arrow on the left side. I can't get rid of it. I've restared firefox, got rid of the status bar, and even purged & reinstalled firefox. Any idea what's causing this?
[09:34] <puff> Ah, hm.
[09:34] <puff> Well, a fresh hoary install.
[09:34] <jcohen85> this is in breezy btw and i also use 1.5 beta 1 which i have installed in my home directory
[09:34] <luckyaba> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:34] <luckyaba>  /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[09:34] <luckyaba>  /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[09:34] <Cryptid> Any body  here Using Gdesklet,,, do u find it useful or can you suggest a better software than Gdesklets
[09:35] <puff> And it's back to thinking I only have 1GB of memory.
[09:35] <gearry> ok, so basically should I have a 1:1 mapping between logical volumes and partitions within a group?
[09:35] <luckyaba> anyone know why thats happening
[09:36] <ui> cyphase : i cant intall firefox
[09:36] <ui> how did you install it?
[09:36] <Belutz> wesley: you could read this http://www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/repositories.html
[09:36] <wesley> i did it.. the problem is when i try to get it..
[09:36] <wesley> i receave a msg
[09:36] <wesley> saying that a need a lib.. but i've installed this one..
[09:37] <moparfan90> is there a package for SVU??
[09:37] <Belutz> wesley: wait, let me try it
[09:37] <Belutz> !info svu
[09:37] <wesley> i can feel that this lib is for kde and i 'm using the gnome
[09:37] <wesley> OK thnks
[09:37] <cyphase> ui, how did you do it?
[09:37] <ompaul> wesley, do this as part of the skype process:>>sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt<< when done let me know
[09:37] <Belutz> moparfan90: i dont think there's one
[09:37] <luckyaba> firefox wont open after i updated some stuff
[09:37] <puff> How do I disable the alt/ctrl intercepts in eterm?
[09:38] <Belutz> wesley: do what ompaul just told you
[09:38] <luckyaba> and it wont update gnome-firefox-support or mozilla-firefox
[09:38] <wesley> ??? how? i'm so sorry my english is so bad
[09:38] <ouroboros> Still need help, almost a week later.
[09:38] <ouroboros> ATI All in Wonder Pro - wish to get direct rendering enabled.
[09:38] <ui> cyphase : sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:38] <cyphase> no
[09:38] <cyphase> mozilla-firefox
[09:38] <Belutz> wesley: open a terminal, and type sudo apt-get libqt3-mt
[09:39] <ouroboros> Right, cyphase.
[09:39] <wesley> i've did it
[09:39] <ompaul> wesley, click on applications - accessories - teminal
[09:39] <wesley> and after.. i receave the same msg..
[09:39] <ompaul> wesley, what message
[09:39] <wesley> ok i'll do it right now
[09:39] <Absenth> what's the syntax to install .deb files again
[09:39] <Belutz> Absenth: dpkg -i
[09:40] <wesley> that this packge is missig this libqt
[09:40] <wesley> but i'm sure that i've installed it
[09:40] <moparfan90> oooo
[09:40] <ouroboros> Ubuntu Hoary - ATI All in Wonder Pro PCI video - I want to get direct rendering enabled / Cedega to recognize this. Any input is appreciated.
[09:40] <wesley> it is so strange
[09:40] <Absenth> Belutz, why can't I ever remember that
[09:40] <Absenth> Belutz, danke.
[09:40] <ompaul> wesley, stop wait please
[09:40] <Belutz> Absenth: you're welcome :)
[09:40] <ouroboros> AMD64 to add. 64-bit Ubuntu Hoary.
[09:40] <puff> Okay, so I've just installed hoary, any recommendations on stuff I should install or change?
[09:40] <khermans> When is the official Breezy launch date?
[09:40] <Absenth> khermans, oct 13
[09:40] <Belutz> khermans: october 13th
[09:41] <khermans> ahh, ok
[09:41] <wesley> ok
[09:41] <NsOmNiAc> yeahh what they said
[09:41] <ompaul> wesley, please do this in that terminal>> sudo apt-get udpate <<
[09:41] <ui> cyphase : thank you its working now
[09:41] <Absenth> khermans, I only knew that because someone told me that earlier.
[09:41] <ui> :D
[09:41] <sg> has anyone else observed today that x-common won't upgrade today due to fonts-base?
[09:41] <puff> Hm, just tried to install emacs21, it wants the hoary CDROM.
[09:41] <ouroboros> puff : www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:41] <cyphase> ui, np
[09:41] <Absenth> sg, someone complained about x, and fonts on breezy earlier
[09:41] <khermans> will the ISO beavaiable before that?  is there a week of pre-testing?
[09:41] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[09:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[09:42] <morale> !faq
[09:42] <ubotu> hmm... faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[09:42] <Jhair> quit
[09:42] <twibbler> deFrysk: been through thrice now and still failing to sart x server ?... me guess Im doing something wrong ..
[09:42] <ouroboros> How about a real guide for Hoary, since Breezy is still underdeveloped.
[09:42] <deFrysk> twibbler, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[09:42] <twibbler> deFrysk: both done ...
[09:42] <deFrysk> twibbler, to make sure you have everything
[09:42] <morale> ouroboros, it works fine on amd64 - i have an ati videocard with dri working
[09:43] <Absenth> ls
[09:43] <Absenth> bah...  :)
[09:43] <morale> some applications you need to build by hand such as firefox which i found it crashes on amd64 with 32-bit emulation lots.
[09:43] <ouroboros> morale, I see it in the list of devices, ATI All in Wonder Pro is there...but Cedega doesn't specify it as the video card when installing simple things like Ultima 9
[09:43] <sg> Absenth, thanks
[09:43] <Absenth> BTW, I officially hate linux now.
[09:43] <ouroboros> morale, I have a firefox64 solution
[09:43] <ouroboros> morale - it's somewhere on ubuntuforums.org
[09:43] <morale> whats the firefox64 solution?
[09:43] <ompaul> puff >>sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list<< then press a single  >>#<< key on the top line then CTRL+o and CTRL+X then >>sudo apt-get update<< and away you go
[09:43] <morale> ah
[09:44] <ouroboros> morale - I believe you search for firefox 64 like that.
[09:44] <Absenth> I'm no longer able to work the command line on any of my windows servers without typing the wrong command at least once each time I open the command prompt.
[09:44] <ouroboros> morale - about your ATI, you use Cedega?
[09:44] <oO[NOVA] Oo> Absenth: i know the feeling
[09:44] <ompaul> ouroboros, what you do is look up the wiki.ubuntu.com it is very comprehensive
[09:44] <Absenth> if I was smart I'd just alias ls to dir, cp to copy, mv to move etc.
[09:44] <oO[NOVA] Oo> Absenth: i even resorted to creating ls.bat and l.bat to do dir for me
[09:44] <nalioth> Absenth: you need the cerebral interface device, so it knows what you mean, no matter what you type
[09:44] <ouroboros> ompaul - that's for hoary guide?
[09:44] <twibbler> deFrysk: error is still cannot find default font ... is it im using GB .... should I try us ?...
[09:44] <morale> ouroboros, i haven't used cedega winex yet. i use just plain X.. i don't do much gaming.. dri and xv extensions work fine so i can watch video and stuff
[09:44] <oO[NOVA] Oo> nalioth: i bet that's a package you can download, too
[09:44] <ompaul> ouroboros, it is the official help
[09:45] <Absenth> nalioth, That's a feature in the OS after Vista I hear....  :P
[09:45] <ouroboros> thanks ompaul, cheers
[09:45] <ouroboros> morale - chances are then, it's just some config I have to do with Cedega, I wish I knew more about it
[09:45] <oO[NOVA] Oo> Absenth: "move file" remove file? "no!" yes.
[09:45] <msg43> Hi
[09:45] <msg43> does the ubutnu live cd have qtparted?
[09:45] <morale> ouroboros, i'll see what i can figure out.. i used to play with winex all the time.
[09:45] <khermans> gtparted i think
[09:46] <Absenth> oO[NOVA] Oo, heh,
[09:46] <ompaul> Mudchains|gone, you don't need to do that - just leave it dude if 482 did that well then you would have a lot more noise
[09:46] <Absenth> oO[NOVA] Oo, I seem to do an ok job of killing files by accident anyway :)
[09:46] <ouroboros> that's cool morale, AIM is at The All is One if you want to find anything, I have to get back to work unfortunatly
[09:46] <khermans> ANyone notice that the NTFS auto-resize in Breezy installer is broken?
[09:47] <khermans> is this a widely known bug?
[09:47] <puff> ompaul: Ah, you mean comment out the first line in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:47] <ompaul> puff, I do
[09:47] <ouroboros> rephrase morale, if you find anything...i'm VNC'ing, slow sometimes
[09:47] <ompaul> puff, I don't know if a person knows a from z so maybe a little too much detail there :)
[09:48] <puff> ompaul: That's cool... just for reference, I'm pretty experienced as a unix/linux end-user, less so as a sysadmin.
[09:49] <ompaul> puff, well I took that from your last comment :)
[09:49] <twibbler> deFrysk: ok getting well to late here going home ... thank you for your help ... Ill resolve the rest Sunday I hope ...
[09:49] <deFrysk> twibbler, good luck
[09:50] <puff> I'm still trying to figure out how to get gnome terminal and emacs to play nicely with each other.
[09:50] <ompaul> puff, I have had a person repair config files using vi :-)
[09:50] <puff> Er, emacs on a remote system via ssh window inside gnome.
[09:50] <puff> I can't even seem to figure out good google key words...
[09:51] <Absenth> puff vi > emacs :)
[09:51] <wesley> ompaul.. i did it..
[09:51] <ompaul> puff, >ssh -C username@otherbox<  the -C is a nice compressor then emacs and away you go unless you want to export X and then I am not the person to help you there I have done it once in the 10 years about 3 years ago cos I had to ...
[09:52] <puff> Absenth: vi vi vi == 666, clearly vi is The Editor Of The Beast.
[09:52] <Absenth> puff all the more reason to use it :)
[09:52] <Seveas> puff, you mean the editor of the best :)
[09:52] <ompaul> wesley, now try >>sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt<<
[09:52] <puff> ompaul: The main problem is gnome terminal on thix box keeps grabbing alt/ctrl keys.
[09:52] <oO[NOVA] Oo> puff: judging by the state of my room, that is accurate.
[09:52] <Belutz> why vi is so good? i never use vi
[09:52] <ompaul> puff try an xterm?>
[09:53] <JosephB> Is there any reason my system architecture is listed as i486 for an AMD K6-2? The processor is pentium class. Would it hurt anything to change it to i586?
[09:53] <puff> ompaul: Dang,I know I figured out how to disable this once... I even have it in my notes, but I don't have *how* I disabled it :-).
[09:53] <ompaul> Belutz, its what old people learnt in the last century
[09:53] <puff> I remember it wasn't in the "Edit profile" screen, for some weird reason.
[09:53] <ompaul> puff let me finish with wesley and then I'll give it a look
[09:54] <Chii_chan> brb >.<