[07:06] <gerry_hanan_> trying to install 8.04 on an old HP desktop, and I am getting lots of "init: ttyn main process ended, respawning" where n= any of the 6 tty's... and lots of garbage in between- buffer I/O error, SQUASHFS errors... anyone have any bright ideas or light of understanding? That's utter giberish to me.
[07:06] <ansichart> wols_, Alright, I think I got it now.  Thanks!
[07:06] <EugenMayer> wols_: sorry, i should have missed it..kopete isnt thatt good in highligh. Do you have the line?i just scrolled up and searched, did not find anythin
[07:06] <swp0743> fuck i dunno teh chips
[07:06] <joejoecircusboy> dislo: sorry, gnome-device-manager
[07:06] <swp0743> gotta oogle it
[07:07] <dislo> joejoecircusboy, well i just wanted to see if it formated correctly
[07:07] <wols_> EugenMayer: Xorg.0.log. in a pastebin
[07:07] <swp0743> what diffrent does it make ?
[07:07] <joejoecircusboy> dislo: Can you give me more details/info? (not really sure what you're trying to do)
[07:07] <wols_> swp0743: lspci? or is it pcmcia?
[07:07] <wbmj> gerry_hanan:probably a bad burn or a dying cdrom
[07:07] <paolo_> this is my question: I want to know if a package has been installed using apt-get install or if it has been installed with apt-get source (how do i distinguish these two)
[07:07] <EugenMayer> wols_: you must have missed it, i pasted it befoer : http://pastebin.com/f3cf56134
[07:07] <joejoecircusboy> gerry_hanan_: Sounds like corrupted install CD or bad memory
[07:07] <swp0743> pcmcia
[07:07] <swp0743> its an old lappy
[07:08] <swp0743> thing is i tried it both on 2.4 2.5 dmesg wotn even see em
[07:08] <swp0743> any suggestions guys ?
[07:08] <wols_> EugenMayer: you areusing vesa, not ati drivers.
[07:08] <wols_> EugenMayer: dpkg -l |grep -i fglrx
[07:08] <EugenMayer> wols_: just if you ask, here is the xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/f49605a4c
[07:08] <dislo> joejoecircusboy, i am at defcon and i am trying to hack my badge and i need to have a SD card that is formated fat16 and i was just wanting to make sure it is formated correctly
[07:09] <swp0743> no one ?
[07:09] <wols_> swp0743: use lspcmcia
[07:09] <wols_> EugenMayer: I already asked.something different
[07:09] <EugenMayer> wols_: ouput : http://pastebin.com/m46beb1bd
[07:09] <joejoecircusboy> dislo: (right on, a few guys from my team are there too)  Why don't you take the SD card out, and put it back in and see if it's mount?
[07:09] <John_kho> h
[07:09] <John_kho> hi
[07:09] <joejoecircusboy> dislo: *mounted
[07:09] <John_kho> are there anyone can help me with my webcam?
[07:10] <Rat409> !ask | John_kho
[07:10] <wols_> EugenMayer: looks kinda strange... is that a fallback Xorg.0.log or such?
[07:10] <EugenMayer> wols_: you might have missed that too, i said in the upper, that ubunut is booting in kind of safe-mode because it cannot load the graphics drivers. maybe this is the reason why the xorg.log seems to be,like i use vesa?
[07:11] <xurxo> ok its pissing me off!.here is the session log: Checking session consistency (brasero_burn_check_session_consistency burn.c:1714)
[07:11] <xurxo> Session error : the drive seems to be busy (brasero_burn_record burn.c:2270)
[07:11] <xurxo> anyone have any ideas?
[07:11] <John_kho> i have a laptop VAio SZ330P , and i install ubuntu onto it together with XP..but i don't know how to make my webcam works
[07:11] <LSD|Ninja> Any way to stop GNOME from moving the focus whenever somethign updates? It's incredibly annoying
[07:11] <John_kho> anyone have ideas?
[07:11] <swp0743> wols: is that a tool ??
[07:11] <joejoecircusboy> xurxo: this is during the imaging, or burning?
[07:11] <swp0743> what exactly does t do
[07:11] <blahblah`> Hi - I need some help with an Apple USB Ethernet adapter not being recognized in 64bit ubuntu
[07:12] <swp0743> i see its a PCMCIA card control utility  but can u clear it a lil bit
[07:12] <wols_> EugenMayer: yes. kill X and run startx
[07:12] <z0rk> hey all, when i try to change the visual effects in the apperance manager i get the following error message: The Composite extension is not available... anyone have any ideas for fixing this?
[07:12] <LSD|Ninja> blahblah`: lol, you actually bought a MacBook AIR?
[07:12] <joejoecircusboy> blahblah`: http://www.google.ca/search?q=Apple+USB+Ethernet+Ubuntu
[07:12] <blahblah`> no, just the adapter
[07:12] <EugenMayer> wols_: my current problem is, that i can even switch to console with alt-ctrl-1 to kill x and restart, because i get just graphic-bugs
[07:13] <blahblah`> and joejoecircusboy ive tried that ;)
[07:13] <joejoecircusboy> blahblah`: k :)
[07:13] <dislo> joejoecircusboy, it does auto mount perfectly
[07:13] <z0rk> EugenMayer: try ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:13] <EugenMayer> z0rk: that will restart the safe-mode
[07:13] <blahblah`> i actually found a modified driver and it worked in non 64bit ubuntu
[07:13] <joejoecircusboy> dislo: I think you're golden
[07:13] <wols_> EugenMayer: boot without X then. disable gdm and reboot
[07:13] <blahblah`> patasix.ko
[07:13] <blahblah`> but its nto working in 64
[07:14] <vlad> kj
[07:14] <dislo> joejoecircusboy, but how do i tell your file system type
[07:14] <EugenMayer> be right back
[07:15] <blahblah`> so yeh
[07:15] <blahblah`> can anyone help me
[07:15] <geev8> hi 2 all
[07:15] <blahblah`> surely theres people with asix based usb ethernet adapters running 64bit ubuntu?
[07:15] <joejoecircusboy> dislo: how did you format it?
[07:15] <keisangi> hi there, how can i delete uvesafb ? i want to completly remove it, and all other framebuffers
[07:15] <commie_cary> ...KOPETE
[07:15] <geev8> your help please
[07:15] <azken> iji
[07:15] <dislo> joejoecircusboy, mkdosfs -F 16 /dev/sde1
[07:15] <John_kho> are there anyone that can help me with my webcam driver?:(
[07:16] <RoshanK> geev8: help with what? if i know i can try
[07:16] <joejoecircusboy> dislo: Well, I think you can be confident that it's F15
[07:16] <joejoecircusboy> *F16
[07:16]  * trupheenix is having iwl3945 woes. cannot connect to my home wireless router. HELP!!! :'(
[07:16] <dislo> joejoecircusboy, thank you very much and i would be happy to buy you a beer anytime
[07:16] <joejoecircusboy> dislo: not a problem :)
[07:17] <geev8> i hav data and shema of my database and i want to populate to new database on other server
[07:17] <swp0743> anyone from toronto here ???
[07:17] <wols_> !ask | trupheenix
[07:17] <joejoecircusboy> Ya, I'm from Toronto
[07:17] <wols_> swp0743: OT
[07:17] <lex> please help i have no sound. just clean install gusty gibbon
[07:17] <swp0743> niice
[07:17] <Flannel> swp0743: try #ubuntu-ca
[07:17] <wols_> geev8: use phpmyadmin for example (if using mysql
[07:17] <swp0743> ot - ottawa ?
[07:17] <swp0743> im just curious
[07:17] <wols_> swp0743: it's still OT here
[07:17] <geev8> all are in a text file with sql extention
[07:18] <joejoecircusboy> swp0743: no, wol_ has a one track mind :) (OT = Off Topic)
[07:18] <swp0743> lol
[07:18] <swp0743> i get it
[07:18] <joejoecircusboy> ya, in other words "Shutty!"
[07:18] <geev8> ok with phpmyadmin do i do to populate it
[07:19] <flott1> morgen zusammen
[07:19] <geev8> wols: you get my point?
[07:19] <wols_> !de | flott1
[07:19] <IcemanV9> geev8: backup (dump table) the db on the old box, then restore to the db on the new server
[07:19] <trupheenix> !iwl3945
[07:19] <flott1> oh sorry
[07:19] <wols_> geev8: yes, but I don't care since you've been already answered
[07:19] <flott1> ^^
[07:20] <flott1> cya
[07:20] <trupheenix> :'( i cannot connect to my home router HELP :'( Please bring back Gutsy
[07:20] <wols_> trupheenix: state your problem clearly
[07:20] <wols_> trupheenix: get the iwlwifi firmware and load the iwl3945 kernel module
[07:21] <wols_> !iwlwifi
[07:21] <geev8> Icemanv9: am not expert on this and this file is not from my computer it has been taken from far computer
[07:21] <ogzy> when i connect a LCT to my VGA output at the laptop and check the xrandr -q i dont see any VGA or LVDS but just a Screen0, what can be the reason?
[07:21] <trupheenix> wols_: i am trying to connect to my home wireless network which is on a Linksys WRT54G router. eversince i installed Hardy, my wifi light has stopped working and not only that when i do a iwlist scanning, wlan0 lists a blank ESSID and says that my router config is broken. i tried connecting to my home network from SuSE 11 and it worked perfectly (but I don't want to use SuSE I'm Ubuntu fan)
[07:22] <bullgard4> [IBM laptop T42] /proc/acpi/processor/CPU/power shows "state C1 usage: 082, state C2 usage 080592, state C3 usage 0141842." Room temperature is 27.5°C. Still the fan does not extinguish. Is this normal?
[07:22] <wols_> !errors | trupheenix
[07:22] <lex> can some one help me with no sound problem?
[07:22] <wols_> !ask | lex
[07:23] <lex> thank you
[07:23] <joejoecircusboy> bullgard4: what's the CPU temp?
[07:23] <trupheenix> wols_: i am at work now with my laptop. funnily i'm able to connect to my stupid Dlink router here.
[07:23] <trupheenix> wols_ : but my wifi light is still shut
[07:24] <bullgard4> joejoecircusboy: Hardware Sensors Monitor lists 8 different temperatures. Which one should I pick?
[07:24] <wols_> trupheenix: please don't talk to me anymore until you can actually do what you're asked and provide the needed info
[07:24] <geev8> no one help to me guys?
[07:24] <trupheenix> wols_: ok but like i said right now i'm at work and I cannot use get info about my home router.
[07:24] <joejoecircusboy> bullgard4: Is one labelled CPU, or core, or processor or something? (if not, just give me the highest)
[07:24] <IcemanV9> geev8: i did it once ... i just follow the guide from wordpress on how to backup/restore mysql db
[07:24] <wols_> geev8: you already have been helped. you not recognizing it is not our problems
[07:24] <wols_> -s
[07:25] <trupheenix> wols_: so if u have any tips or information on how to work around this problem. it would be really nice if u can share it with me
[07:25] <joejoecircusboy> geev8: What's the problem?
[07:25] <wols_> trupheenix: I already did. and I told you NOT to talk to me anymore until you can give useful info as I asked
[07:25] <bullgard4> joejoecircusboy: They are not labelled. The highest is 54°C.
[07:25] <joejoecircusboy> bullgard4: seems reasonable (that's not too hot)
[07:26] <ubuntu>  I'm getting an error 15: file not found when I do find/boot/grub/stage1
[07:26] <wols_> ubuntu: what is your "root" line?
[07:26] <trupheenix> wols_: ok where do i get the iwlwifi firmware and how do i load the kernel module? u got any place where i can follow the instructions?
[07:26] <joejoecircusboy> ubuntu: Are you using a boot partition?
[07:26] <wols_> !wlan | trupheenix
[07:26] <ubuntu> what do you mean by boot partition?
[07:27] <trupheenix> wols_: ok let me try
[07:27] <wols_> ubuntu: the partition /Boot is on
[07:27] <joejoecircusboy> ubuntu: go with wol_
[07:27] <bullgard4> joejoecircusboy: I am curious if it is normal that the fan does not extinguish even though I do not touch the keyboard for a long time and web browser is not receiving animated Java scripts.
[07:27] <IcemanV9> geev8: google mysql backup :-) it's fairly easy to do it on command line as you mentioned it is on the remote box
[07:27] <joejoecircusboy> bullgard4: by extinguish, you mean turn off?
[07:28] <ubuntu> wols_, I think my partitions are dead
[07:28] <trupheenix> wols_: after i do this, i can continue using network manager applet as usual right? i don't have to switch to wicd or something like that
[07:28] <EugenMayer> wols_: http://pastebin.com/f209bc961
[07:28] <joejoecircusboy> ubuntu: try your find as /grub/stage1
[07:28] <geev8> joejoecircusboy: i hav given notepad file that has schema and data then i hav created it database
[07:28] <geev8> joejoecircusboy: so i need to populate the dBase with that file how do i do your help please
[07:28] <wols_> ubuntu: state your actual problem more clearly. to check your partitions, boot from a livecd and do a sudo fdisk -l
[07:29] <wols_> geev8: for the 2nd time phpmyadmin
[07:29] <ubuntu> joejoecircusboy, doesn't work
[07:29] <RoshanK> joejoecircusboy: question is sort of OT, but where would u store your ssh private keys? email? usb?
[07:29] <justin__> what is the command for eterm?
[07:29] <ubuntu> wols_ I did that and I only see one partition
[07:29] <joejoecircusboy> ubuntu: ah, then it's not a quick solution... try what wols_ suggested above
[07:29] <trupheenix> wols_: someone gave instructions on how to use ipw3945. i think i will switch to that. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/using-ipw3945-instead-iwl3945-in-hardy.html
[07:29] <ubuntu> I had 3 before I reinstalled windows
[07:30] <joejoecircusboy> RoshanK: On the computers I use :)
[07:30] <wols_> EugenMayer: lines 420 and 421
[07:30] <joejoecircusboy> RoshanK: (Any of the above work)
[07:30] <geev8> i went though without success that is why i come here
[07:30] <boxershorts> hi
[07:30] <wols_> EugenMayer: why do you need this particular fglrx?
[07:30] <EugenMayer> wols_: iam googling allreadz
[07:30] <bullgard4> joejoecircusboy: Yes, automatically turn off at low load.
[07:30] <wols_> trupheenix: no you don't. not with a 2.6.24 kernel
[07:31] <RoshanK> joejoecircusboy: k thanks. but if i do lose the file for some stupid reason, i can simply go to the machine and create new key file and copy it over to authorized keys correct
[07:31] <EugenMayer> wols_: underclocking or better, just powersaving
[07:31] <joejoecircusboy> geev8: Ya, I would google that.. should be straightforward as the others say
[07:31] <justin__> at gnome-look.org what themes do i look for. I am using the gnome ubuntu 8.04
[07:31] <trupheenix> wols_: ok once i get the firm ware how do I patch it? I'm pretty scared to do it without any guidance :(
[07:31] <RoshanK> justin_ i believe it is gsm that u look for
[07:31] <joejoecircusboy> RoshanK: Yeah, though.. if you disable password auth, you better have console access ;)
[07:31] <wols_> trupheenix: why patch it?
[07:31] <RoshanK> joejoecircusboy: k thanks
[07:31] <joejoecircusboy> bullgard4: try running 'top', is anything using the CPU?
[07:32] <RoshanK> justin_: sorry i meant to say gdm*
[07:32] <wols_> EugenMayer: try ubuntu supported drivers for a change
[07:32] <justin__> RoshanK, ok thanks
[07:32] <justin__> RoshanK, GDM do you mean?
[07:32] <EugenMayer> wols_: they are quite old and as far as i can see are not supporting x1400
[07:32] <justin__> RoshanK, :) k
[07:32] <RoshanK> justin_: sorry, gdm themes were for logins
[07:33] <RoshanK> justin_: i believe that it was gtk 2.x and so on
[07:33] <Bblan> how does one choose which wifi device to use for access?
[07:33] <Bblan> I have an internal iwp2100 and an external hwug1 usb
[07:33] <Bblan> and would like to use the external as it is 802.11g
[07:34] <EugenMayer> wols_: and i fear it will run into problems with the custom kernel
[07:34] <wbmj> justin_: GDM are login themes.....metacity are window theme....gtk2........widget themes
[07:34] <EugenMayer> wols_: i saw there are drivers for intrepid, but no idea how to unmask them
[07:34] <geev8> joejoecircusboy: i was given this command @$ mysql -uUser -pPassword dBase_name < file_name.sql
[07:34] <trupheenix> wols: ok i just push it into that directory. i gotcha
[07:34] <joejoecircusboy> geev8: Ya, that seems right (but you'll have to create the database first in that case)
[07:35] <trupheenix> wols_: ok i gotcha. just copy the micro code into the firm ware directory and everything should HOPEFULLY work  correct?
[07:35] <geev8> joejoecircusboy: when i do execute if fail
[07:35] <bullgard4> joejoecircusboy: %CPU gconf, Xorg, sensors-applet: all 0.7%. No more.
[07:35] <joejoecircusboy> bullgard4: hmm
[07:35] <joejoecircusboy> bullgard4: what CPU?
[07:35] <geev8> joejoecircusboy: database is created already
[07:36] <joejoecircusboy> geev8: what error do you get?
[07:36] <EugenMayer> wols_: guess its that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/185654
[07:36] <SBSBIN> looking for help with dcedump
[07:36] <joejoecircusboy> SBSBIN: What's dcedump?
[07:36] <SBSBIN> part of SPIKE
[07:36] <Trinithis> A repository package of I downloaded (libghc6-hgl-dev) didn't install correctly, and I can't remove it. Every time I use the repository, it flags the libghc6 package as an error. How can I permanenlty remove it?
[07:36] <joejoecircusboy> SBSBIN: what does it do?
[07:37] <Bblan> looking for help with gnome network-manager on Ubuntu 8.04.1
[07:37] <SBSBIN> it runs the equivalent of rpcdump -p on a unix system
[07:37] <SBSBIN> only it does it on a windows box
[07:37] <SBSBIN> SPIKE is a fuzzer
[07:37] <ansichart> When I try watching a video on my laptop after normal usage (web-browsing, playing music, chatting, etc.) the video is all choppy (the audio is fine, just the video).  Even after all my windows are closed down and it's just the video playing.  What do you think is causing this?  Low memory?
[07:38] <joejoecircusboy> SBSBIN: Interesting, thanks
[07:38] <joejoecircusboy> SBSBIN: Anyway, what's the problem?
[07:38] <Trinithis> Or at the very least, have it so that the Synaptic Package Manager does not recognize it...
[07:38] <pen> Why my wireless switch would turn off the wireless but can't turn it back on?
[07:38] <SBSBIN> I make it and when I run it the thing sends a message and then stalls
[07:38] <SBSBIN> I'm curious why
[07:38] <bullgard4> joejoecircusboy: Intel pentium M processor at 1.7 GHz.
[07:38] <pen> could anyone provide me a solution to that?
[07:38] <xPhilosx> uhh, quick question, im using Ubuntu Hardy, no matter what I do after I edit /etc/network/interfaces, it refuses to assign a static IP
[07:38] <joejoecircusboy> SBSBIN: Can you pastebin the output?
[07:39] <xPhilosx> why wont Ubuntu allow me to manually configure my eth connections?
[07:39] <SBSBIN> I'll just type it: "DCE-RPC tester."
[07:39] <SBSBIN> that's it
[07:39] <harsha> Hi
[07:39] <SBSBIN> with a newline character
[07:39] <harsha> any budy the
[07:39] <harsha> any budy ther
[07:39] <SBSBIN> but that's not visible
[07:39] <xPhilosx> I end up with the same defaulted garbage each time I change my network interfaces file
[07:40] <joejoecircusboy> bullgard4: can you do a 'cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor' ?
[07:40] <SBSBIN> so yeah, not sure what the problem is.  I used make and ran the ./configure file
[07:40] <joejoecircusboy> SBSBIN: What does strace show?
[07:40] <joejoecircusboy> xPhilosx: it should, what's the problem?
[07:41] <SBSBIN> the last line has a connect function
[07:41] <joejoecircusboy> SBSBIN: Can you telnet to port 135 on the host you're scanning?
[07:41] <Vooloo> is it possible to toggle off the title and borders of a window? like you can in fluxbox
[07:41] <xPhilosx> joejoecircusboy, no idea, it keeps defaulting to a DHCP address
[07:41] <joejoecircusboy> SBSBIN: i.e. can you establish a TCP connection to 135
[07:41] <pen> Why my wireless switch would turn off the wireless but can't turn it back on?
[07:41] <pen> could anyone provide me a solution to that?
[07:41] <xPhilosx> in fact, it refuses to allow me to reset the eth0 settings
[07:41] <SBSBIN> lemme try
[07:42] <joejoecircusboy> xPhilosx: hmm did you disable "roaming" or whatever it's called
[07:42] <Trinithis> "E: libghc6-hgl-dev: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should"
[07:42] <xPhilosx> joejoecircusboy,  yeah, but it wont disable, roaming seems to be the only thing that works
[07:42] <SBSBIN> trying...
[07:42] <xPhilosx> the auto settings are totally screwing with my manual config
[07:42] <SBSBIN> alright, that's likely the problem then
[07:43] <bullgard4> joejoecircusboy: scaling governor is 'ondemand'.
[07:43] <joejoecircusboy> SBSBIN: I think the host you're scanning has it's firewall up and you can't connect to the DCE/RPC service (on 135/TCP on Windows)
[07:43] <SBSBIN> it's just hanging without any communication back from the host
[07:43] <SBSBIN> well, I'm trying to connect from a vm to my desktop
[07:43] <Bblan> how does one select which wifi device to use in network-manager?
[07:43] <SBSBIN> so they're on the same host
[07:43] <joejoecircusboy> SBSBIN: Ya, likely WIndows firewall... it just drops packets (doesn't bother resetting.)
[07:43] <SBSBIN> gotcha
[07:43] <notsonerdysunny> I already have already downloaded all the debian packages necessary. I am told by Dr. Google that I need to add the line "deb file:/<pathToDirectoryContainingDebs> debs/" But I am unable to figure out where .. can any body help me please..
[07:44] <SBSBIN> sounds like I should turn off windows firewall and disconnect from the internet
[07:44] <SBSBIN> thanks for your help
[07:44] <SBSBIN> chers
[07:44] <SBSBIN> *cheers
[07:44] <FloodBot1> SBSBIN: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:44] <joejoecircusboy> bullgard4: can you cat the scaling_available_frequencies in the same directories?
[07:44] <joejoecircusboy> SBSBIN: np, enjoy
[07:44] <SBSBIN> FloodBot
[07:44] <SBSBIN> FloodBot
[07:44] <SBSBIN> haha
[07:44] <FloodBot1> SBSBIN: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:44] <Bblan> can anyone hear me? Am I being blocked?
[07:44] <SBSBIN> we can hear you
[07:44] <joejoecircusboy> Bblan: hello
[07:45] <SBSBIN> quit
[07:45] <Bblan> oh sorry guys thought maybe I wasn't getting through
[07:45] <Bblan> lol
[07:46] <Bblan> i really think i have a simple problem but i've tried searching ubuntu forums and launchpad but cannot find the answer
[07:46] <joejoecircusboy> Bblan: whats' the prob?
[07:46] <xPhilosx> joejoecircusboy, I think persistent rules was ruining me
[07:46] <xPhilosx> hopefully after I just diabled it, it will work now
[07:46] <Bblan> i used the ubuntu forums to download a script to install the drivers for my hwug1 usb wifi card
[07:46] <Bblan> which worked perfectly
[07:47] <Bblan> and iwconfig shows it as on
[07:47] <joejoecircusboy> xPhilosx: persistence rules? Not familar with that...
[07:47] <Bblan> but i can't select it in network manager
[07:47] <Bblan> i tried disabling the internal
[07:47] <Bblan> but no go
[07:47] <FloodBot1> Bblan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:47] <Bblan> can't get the external to conenct
[07:47] <joejoecircusboy> Bblan: I don't know how network manager works well enough to help, sorry
[07:47] <xPhilosx> joejoecircusboy, something that "helps" you by not allowing certain things to be changed, /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[07:47] <ogzy> at my nvidia card on hardy when i run the xrandr -q i dont see any VGA or LVDS related output but just Screen 0 explanation, what is the reason of it?
[07:48] <Bblan> well is there maybe an alternative to network manager?
[07:48] <joejoecircusboy> xPhilosx: oh, udev... ya ya... those are good things actually (I believe they ensure a given piece of hardware is always assigned the same device file)
[07:48] <bullgard4> joejoecircusboy: scaling_available_frequencies: 1,7 1.4 1.2 1.0 0.8 0.6 GHz.
[07:48] <Trinithis> What should I do when dpkg --purge does NOT work?
[07:48] <xPhilosx> joejoecircusboy, welp, ill see if that was my prob
[07:48] <belendax> Is there any software to view VSD files  ?
[07:48] <joejoecircusboy> xPhilosx: Without that, you may find the ethernet devices change around (if you install a new one)
[07:49] <joejoecircusboy> bullgard4: try forcing your CPU to run at it's minimum speed, see if it cools down and the fans turn off
[07:50] <Onerice> Hi, I am having troubles with my microphone. It won't pick up sounds. I can hear that it is working through my headphones (only with master volume at max though), but ubuntu won't "hear" it...
[07:50] <joejoecircusboy> bullgard4: take the lowest available frequency value, and write it to scaling_max_freq. e.g. "echo 600000 > scaling_max_freq"
[07:50] <kane77> is it OK if I just replace the CPU? will I have to reinstall?
[07:50] <PauloRicardo> People, there is any rmtrash for Linux?
[07:50] <Onerice> Anyone know what to do?
[07:50] <joejoecircusboy> Onerice: check your mixer setting
[07:51] <Onerice> joejoecircusboy: Which setting exactly?
[07:51] <joejoecircusboy> Onerice: Not sure, mess around in there ;)
[07:51] <Onerice> Tried that...
[07:51] <bullgard4> joejoecircusboy: My time is running out. I will try to follow your recipe " take the lowest available frequency value, and write it to scaling_max_freq. e.g. "echo 600000 > scaling_max_freq"" later. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[07:51] <belendax> how can I view VSD files ?
[07:52] <joejoecircusboy> Onerice: Make sure the mic is in the correct jack?  Other than that, no idea
[07:52] <Onerice> Haha. :) Thanks anyways
[07:52] <joejoecircusboy> np
[07:52] <Scorp_> Guys, I am unable to access the router page in ubuntu using firefox.. Its working with OpenSUSE/Firefox, Windows/Firefox but not ubuntu... What could be the reason ???
[07:53] <Scorp_> Its a Linksys Router!!
[07:53] <EugenMayer> wols_: i have solved it. i dont know who to blame more, the maintainer of the package or ATI devs, for being that dump to fail starting on missing a defaul profile...but a good question why it is not copied form the source common/etc/ati to/etc/ati
[07:53] <Onerice> Also, I can't start sound recorder. Says my audio capture settings are invalid.
[07:53] <mmm4m5m> hi all. I have few small questions about Evolution (moving slowly from windows/outlook 2000 to ubuntu). I have few mail accounts. (1) I can't see how to 'receive emails from specific account'. Is it possible? (2) I can't see how to 'create new email and send using non default email account. Is it possible? (3) I can't tell Evolution 'keep outgoing email in Outbox until I click send (send manually)'. Is it possible?
[07:54] <RoshanK> Scorp_: did you try entering the default ip for the router into firefox?
[07:54] <wickedpuppy> mmm4m5m: have you created email accounts ?
[07:54] <mmm4m5m> about (2): it is using non default email if I click reply but not for new created msgs
[07:55] <Scorp_> RoshanK: Yeah.. its  <IP_ADDRESS>.. Thats wat i have been using all the while.. I used a liveCD of OpenSUSE and it can access... But Ubuntu cannot
[07:55] <mmm4m5m> wickedpuppy: yes, only one, using hotway (hotmail) + one default
[07:55] <RoshanK> Scorp_: its usually 192.168.x.xx
[07:55] <pen> Why my wireless switch would turn off the wireless but can't turn it back on?
[07:55] <pen> could anyone provide me a solution to that?
[07:55] <Scorp_> RoshanK: yupp... thats wat am using... i get a prompt for username and password... after that just a blank white screen and loading at the bottom right...
[07:55] <wickedpuppy> mmm4m5m: i got 3 email accounts in my evolution ... and whenever i send i email , i can choose which account i send from ...
[07:55] <RoshanK> Scorp_:how are you connected to the router? ethernet cord? wireless card? it could be possible that the ddriver isnt loaded
[07:56] <RoshanK> Scorp_ oh thats weird
[07:56] <Marco> hello
[07:56] <mmm4m5m> wickedpuppy: ok, then this looks ok then. Maybe because default acc is disabled. Thank you. Anything about other questions?
[07:56] <Scorp_> RoshanK: I was using Wireless, but just to confirm that its not a wireless problem, i used a wire and same issue.. Even to rule out the Linux issue, i used OpenSUSE and thats working... So it shudnt be an issue altogether...
[07:57] <RoshanK> Scorp_: im not an expert on this, but assuming, is it possibly a firefox issue on ur ubuntu installation? do u have noscript enabled or something that may keep it from continuing the loading?
[07:57] <wickedpuppy> mmm4m5m: since i got 3 accounts ... i can clearly choose which account i want to receive email from a specific account ... or all 3
[07:57] <joejoecircusboy> Scorp_: can you open a terminal and run '/sbin/ifconfig -a', and paste the output?
[07:58] <Scorp_> RoshanK: I believe there's something stopping the CGI Script from functioning properly... Is there anything that can be done about it ?
[07:58] <mmm4m5m> wickedpuppy: do you mean 'auto receive'? to setup every acc to be checked automatically or not?
[07:59] <Scorp_> joejoecircusboy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35420/
[07:59] <RoshanK> Scorp_: have u installed any extensions in firefox on the ubunt install?
[07:59] <belendax> how can I view visio files ?
[07:59] <Scorp_> RoshanK: No.. its a basic firefox 3...
[07:59] <wickedpuppy> mmm4m5m: mine does check email every 10 min .. hold on i check where i set it
[07:59] <Zeit|awy_> with visio?
[07:59] <joejoecircusboy> belendax: Microsoft offers a visioviewer application (free download) that you can run in Wine
[08:00] <mmm4m5m> wickedpuppy: just enabled default acc. No change, I see only one 'send/receive' button in Evolution. Let me add more accounts.
[08:00] <joejoecircusboy> belendax: Alternatively, you can just run Visio in Wine.
[08:00] <mmm4m5m> wickedpuppy: no, it is not about auto check
[08:00] <jino> Hi
[08:00] <joejoecircusboy> Scorp_: Network looks good... Can you ping the router?
[08:00] <RoshanK> Scorp_: have any other broswer that can go to that ip address? maybe opera? if u dont then dont go install. im not an expert in this, so i wouldnt wanna waste ur time. but im just assuing that there's something in firefox that's preventing the loading of the page after authentication
[08:00] <wickedpuppy> mmm4m5m: sometimes in linux .... just do it
[08:00] <belendax> joejoecircusboy: is there any package for ubuntu ?
[08:01] <Scorp_> joejoecircusboy, yeah... all that is perfectly working.. even using it to access the internet since a month now... But only that page wont load...
[08:01] <EugenMayer> wols_: thank you for your help of course
[08:01] <jino> How can we list directories???
[08:01] <joejoecircusboy> belendax: for visio? No man, Visio is Windows software, commercial software at that (expensive commercial software...)
[08:01] <Scorp_> RoshanK: I tried even Opera, that doesnt work too...
[08:01] <mmm4m5m> wickedpuppy: after outlook express I use outlook 2000 and I start using it this way: manual receive/send... anyway, auto check is also ok. Thank you very much
[08:01] <RoshanK> Scorp_: o.O
[08:01] <joejoecircusboy> Scorp_: oh, that's intereting...
[08:01] <belendax> joejoecircusboy: tnx a lot
[08:02] <joejoecircusboy> belendax: np
[08:02] <Scorp_> RoshanK: joejoecircusboy, i think its basically something to do with Ubuntu.. I mean, could dere be a firewall or anyting lyk dat which is there by default ??
[08:02] <wickedpuppy> mmm4m5m: try not to compare too much ... sooner or later you be hating linux
[08:02] <Scorp_> joejoecircusboy: Is there anything that stops scripting ???
[08:02] <RoshanK> Scorp_: on another note yesterday my 2wire gateway's home page had a weird error for apparently no reason
[08:02] <joejoecircusboy> Scorp_: Shouldn't matter, it's all server-side scripts I believe
[08:03] <RoshanK> Scorp_: and u said other pc's are able to access the router page though?
[08:03] <EugenMayer> what is the correct "ubuntu" way to mount network drives ( samba )? Using fstab seems to be wrong, as its called before networt is initialized and there are errors in the startup-logs, in addition there are problems on shutting down because the network is down before he tries to onmount
[08:03] <Scorp_> RoshanK: yeah... even my little P1i mobile can.. so thats something thats really irritating...
[08:04] <joejoecircusboy> Scorp_: try this:
[08:04] <joejoecircusboy> perl -e 'print "GET / HTTP/1.0\r\nHost: <IP_ADDRESS>\r\n\r\n"' | nc <IP_ADDRESS> 80
[08:04] <jino> I cant play videos with my Opera from Youtube.com
[08:04] <mmm4m5m> wickedpuppy: do not be so sure :). already 6 months with ubuntu. But email accs and some other things not moved yet.
[08:05] <Chris|> is naming a distro "boxbuntu" break any laws?
[08:05] <RoshanK> jino: that has something to do with opera on ubuntu not having flash
[08:05] <Chris|> i heard canonical owns buntu
[08:05] <joejoecircusboy> EugenMayer: Why not use gnome mounts?
[08:05] <Blaqlight> Chris|, probably
[08:05] <RoshanK> jino: i remember that there was a somewhat harder time installing flash, but ill try and find a guide. i suggest u try as well
[08:05] <joejoecircusboy> EugenMayer: Places -> Connect to Server...
[08:05] <Scorp_> joejoecircusboy: its come to a ">" what do i do after that ??
[08:05] <wickedpuppy> mmm4m5m: 6 months is a period where you get to know the girl ... after that is complaints after complaints :P just don't think about your ex girlfriend anymore ..
[08:06] <Chris|> Blaqlight, thats what i'm thinking but there's also fluxbuntu..
[08:06] <EugenMayer> joejoecircusboy: what is gnome-mounts? that location thingy which creates links /favs i cannot configure?
[08:06] <Chris|> whcih isnt owned by canonicals
[08:06] <jino> But it is work well in my Firefox and Flock browser!!!!
[08:06] <Blaqlight> Chris|, if they got permission
[08:06] <mmm4m5m> wickedpuppy: :) that was good one
[08:06] <RoshanK> wickedpuppy: ok....OT
[08:06] <Scorp_> joejoecircusboy: how do i add a password and username to that line ???
[08:06] <Chris|> Blaqlight, ok thanks for the help i'll look it up
[08:06] <Scorp_> joejoecircusboy: i sent u the output
[08:07] <patrickferns> sorry to interupt but does anyone have any ideas about linksys routers and why they wont work with my modem?
[08:07] <joejoecircusboy> Scorp_: So wtf is Firefox doing wrong?
[08:07] <Blaqlight> joejoecircusboy, its hard to know whith a question like that...
[08:07] <joejoecircusboy> Blaqlight: rhetorical question...
[08:07] <RoshanK> jino: i know it works in firefox easily but next time when replying please enter the person who's nick ur replying to, ir else its a bit harder to notice
[08:08] <Scorp_> joejoecircusboy: its not rendering the page at all... after entering the password, its just stops at <IP_ADDRESS>/setup.cgi?Loadpage=setup.htm
[08:08] <RoshanK> Scorp_: i know i asked u this, but ur positive u didnt install any extension like noscript or maybe adblock plus on?
[08:08] <Scorp_> joejoecircusboy: its basically not letting the CGI script move forward to the next page with the output...
[08:08] <joejoecircusboy> Scorp_: Try this... kill firefox, and move your .mozilla dir to .mozilla-bak, the restart firefox (fresh configuration), then try accessing your router
[08:08] <Scorp_> RoshanK: nah.. I dont believe in so much security...
[08:09] <Blaqlight> Scorp_, are you sure setup.htm exists in the folder called upon by setup.cgi?
[08:09] <Scorp_> Blaqlight: It does exist for all other OS, namely windows, A sony mobile, and OpenSUSE... so it should for Ubuntu too...
 Can you help me to solve the problem with my Opera???
[08:10] <Vooloo> is it possible to change language on the fly?
[08:10] <Blaqlight> Scorp_, simple but important question, its like omg the computer won't turn on... is it plugged in?
[08:10] <krypno1> I have an external harddrive (120gig, one partition, type 7, formatted ntfs) and when I plug it in I get a error mounting it because of an invalid option. Mounting via terminal gives same error when I use "mount /dev/sdb1 -t ntfs /mnt/disk" or "mount /dev/sdb1 -t ntfs-3g /mnt/disk"
[08:10] <krypno1> Any Ideas?
[08:10] <joejoecircusboy> Blaqlight: He's using that router to chat with us now
[08:10] <xPhilosx> All network settings in Ubuntu Hardy are broken for me, the only thing it accepts is roaming, hell, it even ignores the /etc/network/interfaces settings
[08:10] <patrickferns> no im not
[08:10] <patrickferns> ive unplugged it
[08:10] <RoshanK> jino: try this link  i just googled for it, it should work i suppose http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-flash-working-in-opera-920.html
[08:11] <wols_> eRRORS | krypno1
[08:11] <wols_> 1eRRORS | krypno1
[08:11] <wols_> 1eRRORS | krypno1
[08:11] <FloodBot1> wols_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:11] <Scorp_> Blaqlight: Since 2 months now... Am using it and its working fine.. even the WPA Security is working.. but not the router page...
[08:11] <wols_> krypno1: tell us the error(s) if any
[08:11] <joejoecircusboy> Scorp_: Did you see my suggestion above?
 Okay thank you................
[08:11] <Blaqlight> Scorp_, does the router allow you too update it, perhaps you should try that?
 I shall try
[08:12] <RoshanK> jino: pls lemme know if it works
[08:12] <Scorp_> Blaqlight: u mean the firmware ?? I too thought so for the first time and updated it to the latest using a windows machine... so its the latest stuff... Reset it twice too...
[08:12] <Chris|> whats the difference between relative and absolute link?
[08:12] <Blaqlight> also is it a netgear router... if it is try routerlogin.net instead of its IP
[08:12] <und3rgr0undz3r0> hey, i need help! I cant access my windows shares!, how do i make them show up?
[08:13] <patrickferns> my router wont connect to my modem however its picking up a ip address from an external source it just wont let me access the internet
[08:13] <krypno1> wols_: http://rafb.net/p/LHnK0V36.html
[08:13] <uuser> can someone plz tell where to find the parititon maneger on this thing?
[08:13] <joejoecircusboy> patrickferns: what IP is it getting?
[08:13] <Blaqlight> uuser, use gparted
[08:13] <patrickferns> ill just get it
[08:13] <RoshanK> uuser: i believe that it is known as gparted
[08:13] <feaster83> und3rgr0undz3r0: do you have samba installed?
[08:14] <Blaqlight> !gparted > uuser
[08:14] <patrickferns> <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:14] <uuser> i cant seem to find it
[08:14] <RoshanK> uuser: there is a live cd which i believe is the best option b/c u dont wanna use it while booted
[08:14] <joejoecircusboy> uuser: you probably need to install it
[08:14] <Scorp_> Blaqlight: its a Linksys...
[08:14] <und3rgr0undz3r0> feaster83, yes, i do, I could use this all yesterday, i have tried rebooting, but nothing works, i cant access my other machines!
[08:14] <Blaqlight> joejoecircusboy, gparted is installed default in ubuntu
[08:14] <uuser> got info TY for help
[08:14] <joejoecircusboy> Blaqlight: Ah
[08:14] <RoshanK> und3rgr0undz3r0: did u try unplugging and plugging back in lol
[08:15] <patrickferns> yeh afraid i did
[08:15] <und3rgr0undz3r0> RoshanK, yeah, tried that, also tried connecting wirelessly, nothings working
[08:15] <krypno1> wols_: /media/cdrom exists and doesn't have anything mounted to it. I just didn't make a new dir.
[08:15] <Blaqlight> uuser, check what ubottu told you, you'l get instructions from the PM
[08:15] <luks_> k i gave up trying to install ubuntu on a pendrive... its impossible
[08:16] <patrickferns> no it dont work wirelessly i tried to use the config cd but it wouldnt boot
[08:16] <RoshanK> luks_: what happened?
[08:16] <m11> luks_: depends if your pc/usb support that
[08:16] <krypno1> wols_: If I create a dir, it works from the terminal, but any ideas why no auto mount?
[08:16] <feaster83> und3rgr0undz3r0: maybe you should configure your samba and add a domein or something like that. And did you check firewalls?
[08:16] <Vooloo> where do I change interface language?
[08:17] <feaster83> und3rgr0undz3r0: domain* i mean
[08:17] <luks_> RoshanK, mll i have usb support on my pc, but after installing it on the pendrive for some reason it does not mount the partitions
[08:17] <und3rgr0undz3r0> feaster83, checked the firewalls, Im on a DMZ and the other machine is working fine, and is recognized my my OTEHR machines as well
[08:17] <patrickferns> i only have the firewall on ubuntu and samba? where would i add a domain sorry im a novice
[08:17] <und3rgr0undz3r0> feaster83, whast the easiest way to configure samba?
[08:17] <uuser> OK i have install GParted and now i dont know how to load it.. HeLp?
[08:18] <luks_> RoshanK, error 17 i think on grub... i did install the system but cant boot it... just from the ubuntu cd... like a common instalation insted of installing it on the harddrive i did it on the pendrive
[08:18] <krypno1> wols_: nevermind. For some reason, /dev/sdb1 was listed as a optical type drive in /etc/fstab. Sorry to waste your time.
[08:18] <feaster83> patrickferns: For samba there is a web interface to configure all. Otherwise you should check te files in /etc/samba/
[08:18] <joejoecircusboy> (03:14:48 AM) Blaqlight: joejoecircusboy, gparted is installed default in ubuntu << you sure, I don't actually see it on mine
[08:19] <RoshanK> luks_: so wait u installed using live cd onto the pendrive instead of on the hard drive correct?
[08:19] <uuser> nvm i got it
[08:19] <luks_> RoshanK, yes... thats correct
[08:19] <Dexikiix> hey guys i ran a .deb for pidgin, the facebook chat protocol plugin... and it just wont show up
[08:19] <Dexikiix> any ideas?
[08:19] <Blaqlight> joejoecircusboy, Im pretty sure... I believe both the livecd and others use it.
[08:19] <patrickferns> krypno: thanks
[08:19] <RoshanK> luks: i found this guide. i suggest you check it out http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/04/14/ubuntu-804-usb-hard-drive-install/
[08:20] <luks_> RoshanK, i did some partitions on the pendrive... i did an ext3 swap and fat32
[08:20] <joejoecircusboy> Blaqlight: odd, I don't recall uninstalling it
[08:20] <Blaqlight> joejoecircusboy, type gparted in a terminal
[08:20] <und3rgr0undz3r0> feaster83, whast the easiest way to configure samba?
[08:20] <feaster83> und3rgr0undz3r0: For samba there is a web interface to configure all. Otherwise you should check te files in /etc/samba/
[08:20] <rs> hi,everybody....who can teach me sth about Xen with LVM tech...
[08:20] <joejoecircusboy> Blaqlight: I did, not in path.. (and not listed in dpkg --list either)
[08:21] <feaster83> und3rgr0undz3r0: check samba.org how to use the web interface. I think you'll find the info at that site. Otherwise google is your friend ;)
[08:21] <luks_> RoshanK, well... that doesnt solve the problem because that guide tells you how to "copy" ubuntu cd onto the pendrive... what i tried to do was "install" it so i could install software and customize ubuntu on the pendrive like if i was doin it from a hard drive installation
[08:21] <Blaqlight> johnny@ubuntujohn:~$ dpkg --list | grep gparted
[08:21] <Blaqlight> ii  gparted                                    0.3.5-1ubuntu3
[08:21] <RoshanK> luks: are you sure? according to the guide it seems like an install on drive
[08:21] <Dexikiix> ello?
[08:22] <RoshanK> luks_: in case i gave u wrong link http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/04/14/ubuntu-804-usb-hard-drive-install/
[08:23] <luks_> RoshanK, in both cases... it doesnt work
[08:23] <joejoecircusboy> Blaqlight: I 9or something) must have uninstalled it then
[08:23] <RoshanK> luks_: error 17 in grub, im not sure, but i think it has something to do with it not finding the correct partition in which it had to boot from
[08:23] <Blaqlight> joejoecircusboy, I might be wrong.
[08:23] <RoshanK> luks_: h/o ill look it up. u can try too i guess
[08:23] <luks_> RoshanK, that would help me a lot
[08:24] <deus> I need some app that can reconnect me to my wireless nettwork
[08:24] <deus> i keep loose the connection and have to run iwconfig and dhclient again and again and again
[08:24] <deus> what do you recomend?
[08:24] <Blaqlight> deus, use nm-applet
[08:24] <RoshanK> luks_: dont know if this pertains to you but i think that u can try using gparted to see what this guy has done http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[08:24] <coffinzm> Hello! I am using a touchscreen portable with an install of Ubuntu.  Input from the screen works fine as far as moving the pointer etc, but whenever I move the mouse it sends a nonstop stream of clicks to that coordinate - making using a virtual keyboard near impossible.  Any thoughts?
[08:25] <joejoecircusboy> coffinzm: clicks or position updates?
[08:25] <coffinzm> clicks
[08:26] <joejoecircusboy> coffinzm: that's pretty annoying :D
[08:26] <coffinzm> no joke! its driving me nuts
[08:26] <luks_> RoshanK, in the guide u gave me... i did the same thing but i didnt disconnect the hard drives because one problem... i have a laptop... how do i do that? haha
[08:27] <joejoecircusboy> coffinzm: mouse == real mouse, or a touchpad (not the touchscreen)
[08:27] <Blaqlight> luks_, flip it over, grab a screwdriver... well you know
[08:27] <munichlinux> i am using ubuntu gutsy i am facing problem to mount a cd. when i try to mount manually i get this
[08:27] <Blaqlight> make sure you turn it off though first.
[08:27] <munichlinux>  sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0/
[08:27] <munichlinux> mount: No medium found
[08:27] <coffinzm> oops - yes, its a stream of clicks from the touchscreen
[08:27] <RoshanK> luks_: are you messaging from said laptop?
[08:27] <Blaqlight> munichlinux, suggestion... upgrade man.
[08:28] <luks_> Blaqlight, mmmmmmmm how about... BIOS, do they give you an option to disconnect drivers or something like that?
[08:28] <feaster83> coffinzm: did you try(test) an other mouse device?
[08:28] <Blaqlight> luks_, not in MY laptop bios it doesn't
[08:28] <munichlinux> Blaqlight, upgrade what?
[08:28] <coffinzm> i did, a usb mouse works fine
[08:28] <munichlinux> dont say 8.04
[08:28] <Blaqlight> we use 8.04 hardy heron now. munichlinux
[08:28] <luks_> RoshanK, i dont get the question.... Blaqlight i think mine doesnt either
[08:29] <RoshanK> wait is 8.10 beta out yet?
[08:29] <feaster83> coffinzm: but what mouse does give the problem?
[08:29] <joejoecircusboy> coffinzm: if you disable mouse clicks from the touch screen, does the problem go away (ya, I know this makes the touch screen useless.. but just trying to get more info on the source of the problem)
[08:29] <diego10> hello
[08:29] <munichlinux> Blaqlight, but still i cannot do that now i am in the urge of taking some data from that
[08:29] <munichlinux> Blaqlight, any other solution
[08:29] <Blaqlight> munichlinux, perhaps updating your system will fix your problem.
[08:29] <coffinzm> joejoe: to do so would i just change my xorg.conf to a "0" number of buttons option?
[08:30] <Edijus12> Wirelless network connection was detected, but i cant use internet. what else do I need? http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2581/screenshotnd1.png Encryption is disabled.
[08:30] <Blaqlight> munichlinux, all its tell you is that there is nothing in/on /dev/scd0
[08:30] <joejoecircusboy> coffinzm: try System -> mouse -> touchpad (I presume the touchscreen is just being treated as one big touchpad)
[08:30] <Blaqlight> munichlinux, try df -h to see whats mounted ehre.
[08:30] <munichlinux> Blaqlight, ya i couldn't find the cdrom.o
[08:31] <ubuntu> .sexnet.org
[08:31] <coffinzm> unfortunately its not - im running my distro on a pretty dated machine and im having to use the fpit driver - it simply registers on the system as a mouse
[08:31] <Blaqlight> where*
[08:32] <xPhilosx> Something keeps automating my network settings in Ubuntu Hardy.  It is ignoring my /etc/network/interfaces settings and just "making up" its own.  Why would ubuntu ever do this, and aside from why, *what* is causing Ubuntu to do it in the first place?  I cant find anything documented related to this nonsense--ive tried searching Google for over an hour.
[08:32] <kane77> is there a environment variable for libraries?
[08:32] <RoshanK> luks_: this guy seems to have the same problem that you have. check out the thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409123
[08:32] <joejoecircusboy> coffinzm: ah... ya, I'm probably not the best guy to help you then
[08:32] <coffinzm> well i appreciate the effort - back to google and tweaking my xorg!
[08:32] <joejoecircusboy> coffinzm: np, good luck!
[08:33] <Blaqlight> munichlinux, make sure something is in the cdrom drive though or it won't show up
[08:33] <Edijus12> Wirelless network connection was detected, but i cant use internet. what else do I need? http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2581/screenshotnd1.png Encryption is disabled.
[08:33] <xPhilosx> joejoecircusboy, have you ever had a problem with Ubuntu having a stranglehold on your network settings?
[08:34] <kahn> what do you mean stranglehod ?
[08:34] <RoshanK> luks_: he seems to have the solution in this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2456530&postcount=8
[08:34] <joejoecircusboy> xPhilosx: I think some of the files in /etc related to networking are generated from XML files (in gconf?)
[08:34] <milligan_> I'm fiddling about with dovecot, and having a hard time making the quota warning scripts kick in. Anyone have any experience with that ?
[08:34] <joejoecircusboy> xPhilosx: To restore some temporary sanity, did you try chattr +i on your interface file?
[08:34] <ajay> hi
[08:34] <luks_> RoshanK, great thank you Im looking at it...
[08:34] <RoshanK> hi ajay
[08:34] <ajay> i would like to know how to install a splash screen
[08:35] <RoshanK> luks_: lemme know if it works please
[08:35] <xPhilosx> joejoecircusboy, this is nuts, ifconfig gives me eth0 and eth2, i do sudo ifdown eth2 and it tells me eth2 isnt valid (and it shouldnt be, its not in my interfaces file)
[08:35] <kahn> get some water lol
[08:35] <Trinithis> Every other time I boot Ubuntu Hardy, my computer freezes on the load screen. Is there a way to fix this?
[08:35] <ajay> just to be sure its the welcome screen isnt it
[08:35] <xPhilosx> joejoecircusboy, i didnt try that yet, no
[08:35] <RoshanK> ajay try http://www.gnome-look.org/
[08:35] <joejoecircusboy> xPhilosx: that wll make the file immutable (not a solution, but will prevent it from being overwritten at least)
[08:36] <xPhilosx> joejoecircusboy, its not being overwritten
[08:36] <xPhilosx> its being ignored
[08:36] <ajay> RoshanK: i download one from there i want to install it
[08:36] <joejoecircusboy> Ah
[08:36] <RoshanK> ohh
[08:36] <RoshanK> hmm
[08:36] <RoshanK> lemme see if i can google a solution
[08:37] <luks_> RoshanK, i did that... i had ext3 in the first place of the usb and change root=(hd1,1) to 0,1 i think i did that too
[08:37] <Blaqlight> ajay, the instructions should come with the file. untar it and see the README.
[08:37] <dstaley> Is there a way to list the contents of a folder from the terminal?
[08:37] <ajay> Blaqlight: in my case the file i downloaded has only the picture
[08:37] <Blaqlight> dstaley, ls
[08:37] <joejoecircusboy> xPhilosx: See PM msg
[08:37] <ajay> i dont know where i have to put it
[08:38] <RoshanK> ajay: try installing gnome splsh screen manager 'sudo apt-get install gnome-splashscreen-manager'
[08:38] <ajay> RoshanK: thanks
[08:38] <RoshanK> ajay: also check out this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11478
[08:39] <dstaley> Can I open .desktop files from the terminal?
[08:39] <RoshanK> luks_: so it still isn't working?
[08:39] <luks_> RoshanK, i think the best solution for me is to burn a custom iso with remastersys and use my new pendrive for storyin data
[08:39] <Dexikiix> does anyone know why the .deb for the facebook protocol on pidgin would say it completed the install, but i see nothing in pidgin?
[08:39] <kahn> Hey guys, Ubuntu told me at some point to setup a firewall, its not really necessary for my home pc tho is it ??
[08:39] <RoshanK> luks_: k sorry i couldnt help
[08:39] <Dexikiix> kahn: you never know...
[08:39] <luks_> RoshanK, nop... no problem man... i guess im doin somethin wrong...
[08:40] <RoshanK> luks_: if u didnt gt help here, try posting a qustion up on the ubuntu forums as well
[08:40] <joejoecircusboy> kahn: Not strictly necessary no, Ubuntu is pretty about not starting network listeners
[08:40] <luks_> i will try that
[08:41] <Dexikiix> nobody knows?
[08:41] <Dexikiix> no pidgin users?
[08:41] <kahn> does anyone here run a firewall on a home box ??
[08:41] <Dexikiix> or.. pidgin/facebook users?
[08:41] <Dexikiix> kahn: my network is firewalled
[08:41] <kahn> which do u use ?
[08:41] <Dexikiix> >.>
[08:42] <Dexikiix> not sure its my dads
[08:42] <Dexikiix> anyway this is killing me... someone in here has to know what the deal is
[08:43] <Blaqlight> BaD_CrC, is bad, its usually failure, thats never good.
[08:43] <kostkon> Dexikiix, i'll ask the obvious. have you restarted pidgin?
[08:43] <thezanke> where exactly do i change were to install grub with feisty? its not even asking me where i want it.. i want it on my EXTERNAL HDD and i wanna leave my main mbr intact
[08:44] <Dexikiix> kostkon: yes, and restarted the whole computer
[08:45] <Dexikiix> pidgin -just wont- recognize the plugin being there at all
[08:45] <Dexikiix> i've used the deb
[08:45] <Dexikiix> the .tar.bz2
[08:45] <Dexikiix> idk what else to do
[08:45] <kostkon> Dexikiix, so you go to accounts and you don't see an option for facebook?
[08:45] <Dexikiix> kostkon: exactly
[08:46] <Dexikiix> kostkon: i checked plugins menu to see if it needed to be enabled, nothing in there
[08:46] <kostkon> Dexikiix, ok
[08:47] <RoshanK> thezanke: did u choose the usb drive as the place to isntall to?
[08:47] <Dexikiix> kostkon: got an idea?
[08:47] <mikey> g
[08:47] <mikey> wow
[08:47] <mikey> i totally didn't want it to autojoin me to this server/channel
[08:47] <mikey> duh
[08:47] <thezanke> yes but it then replaced my MBR and i did a fixmbr and now when i f10 to select boot media and select the hdd, its not bootable
[08:48] <bmarley13> hi guys. i'm using gnome with compiz-fusion... emerald and i was wondering if there's a way to set a default opacity for windows. right now they're always 100% when i first open them.
[08:48] <thezanke> what i want is for my laptop to act completely normal until i select the usb drive as the boot device and then it goes to grub
[08:48] <kostkon> Dexikiix, you mean this plugin?: http://code.google.com/p/pidgin-facebookchat/
[08:48] <Vegombrei> is there a media centre software for ubuntu ?
[08:48] <Dexikiix> kostkon: yes
[08:48] <kahn> but wheres the mbr it has to be on the master
[08:49] <XazzzaX> Guys whats that sie called again most ppl use to post pictures?
[08:49] <XazzzaX> *site
[08:49] <kahn> facebook, myspace ?
[08:49] <RoshanK> XazzzaX: imageshack, photobucket?
[08:49] <XazzzaX> yea thats the one photobucket, thank you <3
[08:49] <Dexikiix> lol
[08:49] <RoshanK> no problemo
[08:50] <bmarley13> sorry to ask again, but could someone tell me how to set a default opacity for newly opened windows with gnome/compiz?
[08:51] <kostkon> Dexikiix, really strange that doesnt work.
[08:51] <Dexikiix> isnt it?
[08:51] <Dexikiix> did you try it and it works for you?
[08:52] <kostkon> Dexikiix, no. by I guess it's supposed to work.
[08:52] <Dexikiix> yeah
[08:52] <Dexikiix> i mean i ran the deb
[08:52] <kostkon> Dexikiix, you could try another way
[08:52] <Dexikiix> huh?
[08:52] <kostkon> Dexikiix, to isntall it
[08:52] <Dexikiix> oh
[08:52] <Dexikiix> i tried the deb and the tar
[08:52] <Dexikiix> not like i can try the .exe
[08:53] <RoshanK> well in wine you can use exe's
[08:53] <kostkon> Dexikiix, so you copied the .so in  /usr/lib/purple-2/ or ~/.purple/plugins and it didn't work either?
[08:53] <Dexikiix> yeah
[08:53] <Dexikiix> it was already in there from the deb
[08:53] <Dexikiix> and all the icons were already in place
[08:53] <kostkon> Dexikiix, ok. so deb works ok, i see
[08:53] <kostkon> the deb*
[08:54] <Dexikiix> yeah the deb does its job up until me seeing end-results
[08:54] <kostkon> Dexikiix, hmm
[08:54] <Dexikiix> is there some sort of make command im supposed to do
[08:54] <dstaley> How would I start installing ubuntu from the command line?
[08:54] <Dexikiix> or make install somewhere
[08:54] <ikonia> dstaley: you don't install like that
[08:54] <kostkon> Dexikiix, in this case, no
[08:54] <Dexikiix> :p
[08:54] <Dexikiix> i thought not :p
[08:54] <ikonia> dstaley: there is an ncurses method or an X11 gui based method
[08:54] <Dexikiix> oh kostkon i even tried getting repositories for my sources and using apt-get
[08:54] <Dexikiix> but that said i have the latest version
[08:55] <dstaley> ikonia: Well, I'm SSH'ed into my laptop through Mac OS X and I need to install Ubuntu. How would I do that?
[08:55] <kostkon> Dexikiix, speaking about repos. someone offers it in their PPA: https://launchpad.net/~reda.ea/+archive
[08:55] <ikonia> dstaley: you can't do it that way
[08:56] <Dexikiix> yeah i think thats the one i did
[08:56] <kostkon> Dexikiix, you can add the repo and install it from there. but I don't know it will make any difference
[08:56] <kostkon> Dexikiix, ah ok
[08:56] <kahn> Well i installed firestarter, seems nice and simple.
[08:56] <dstaley> ikonia: I'm super sorry, and I'm not trying to be an ass or anything, but you can.
[08:56] <ikonia> dstaley: how then ? if you can do it why are you asking ?
[08:56] <kahn> you tell us then.
[08:57] <ikonia> dstaley: you cannot install ubuntu like that through ssh
[08:57] <kostkon> Dexikiix, you can try a complete removal and reinstallation of the package
[08:57] <dstaley> ikonia: You see, I was going to install from the command line because my Ubiquity install over X11 failed.
[08:57] <Dexikiix> kostkon: commands?
[08:57] <dstaley> ikonia: Well, at least I thought it did. Turns out it didn't.
[08:57] <kostkon> Dexikiix, just from synaptic
[08:57] <mrnotproper> hi i've a little problem here, I did my update gutsy to hardy and I tested the new driver nvidia-glx-new-envy and I downgrade to nvidia-glx-new but now X always start in safe mode and the nvidia are loaded( I checked with lsmod ) and in my xorg.conf everything is set for nvidia xorg don't want to start with the nvidia driver
[08:57] <Dexikiix> lol
[08:57] <dstaley> ikonia: I do apologize, I do see how that can be seen as rude.
[08:57] <Dexikiix> dexi@SUNUP:~$ oh
[08:57] <Dexikiix> bash: oh: command not found
[08:57] <Dexikiix> i meant to type that here
[08:57] <ikonia> dstaley: so you don't want to install "ubuntu" you want to install a package on an ubuntu system thats already running ?
[08:58] <Dexikiix> how do i do it in synaptic i dont see anything
[08:58] <Dexikiix> oh wait
[08:58] <Dexikiix> add/remove?
[08:58] <dstaley> ikonia: No, I did want to install Ubuntu. I just thought my method failed and I was going to try another way, but, it turns out that my first method did, in fact, work.
[08:58] <mycs> hi
[08:59] <nullmin1> is there an easy way for me to download a package and all it's dependencies for another ubuntu installation?
[08:59] <RoshanK> nullmin1: try synaptic packet manager
[08:59] <kostkon> Dexikiix, 32bit ubuntu?
[08:59] <nullmin1> RoshanK: I don't have access to the system I want to install on
[08:59] <kahn> you want to put them on a cd or something ?
[08:59] <Dexikiix> kostkon: yes
[08:59] <zvacet> nullmin1 : http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:59] <nullmin1> I have a 32-bit system somewhere else, and a 64-bit system im on
[08:59] <kostkon> Dexikiix, ok
[08:59] <nullmin1> zvacet: thx, i went there but I noticed the package I want has a lot of dependencies
[09:00] <nullmin1> zvacet: basically I need openssh-server on another system (32-bit) and I have to grab it from this system (64-bit)
[09:00] <ikonia> nullmin1: you can't mix like that
[09:00] <Agion> I'm having problems with hibernation, when I hibernate and then start the computer it boots normally... Any tips?
[09:00] <ikonia> nullmin1: you can grab the debs from the 32bit repo on the net though
[09:00] <nullmin1> ikonia: i will be getting the i386 debs for that system
[09:00] <kostkon> Dexikiix, in syantpci, search for the pidgin-facebookchat package or something like that
[09:00] <ikonia> nullmin1: then your fine
[09:00] <nullmin1> ikonia: i need to get the debs
[09:01] <ikonia> nullmin1: no problem then
[09:01] <Grobvok> nullmin1: apt-get has an argument "-d, --download-only"
[09:01] <nullmin1> ikonia: and the packges.ubuntu.com interface only lets me grab one at a time
[09:01] <zvacet> nullmin1 : you can not install packages without all dependencies but you can check maybe you allready have some of them installed
[09:01] <ikonia> nullmin1: just browse the http interface
[09:01] <nullmin1> so there is no way to download all the needed packages for a different architecture ?
[09:01] <nullmin1> without manually selecting each one
[09:02] <nullmin1> Grobvok: will that work since im on 64-bit and the packages needed are for i386?
[09:02] <ikonia> nullmin1: because your on the wrong arch you can't really use apt-get
[09:02] <Grobvok> nullmin1: Probably not.
[09:02] <nullmin1> and no way to force architecture?
[09:02] <ikonia> nullmin1: no
[09:02] <Agion> I'm having problems with hibernation, when I hibernate and then start the computer it boots normally... Any tips?
[09:02] <Dexikiix> kostkon: i did a complete removal
[09:02] <Dexikiix> then run the deb again?
[09:02] <kahn> acpi setup in bios maybe ?
[09:03] <Grobvok> Agion: It's supposed to do that.
[09:03] <kostkon> Dexikiix, eh yes. close synaptic first
[09:03] <Dexikiix> er wait
[09:03] <Agion> ok
[09:03] <Dexikiix> wtf i have 2 versions?
[09:03] <dstaley> Is there a way I can tell GDM to automatically login to a user from the command line?
[09:03] <Dexikiix> that might be it
[09:03] <kostkon> Dexikiix, two?
[09:03] <kahn> Agion: my hibernation works..
[09:03] <Dexikiix> oh
[09:03] <Dexikiix> no
[09:03] <ikonia> Dexikiix: please keep an eye on the language, you know wtf is not acceptable
[09:03] <Dexikiix> one is "mark for installation"
[09:03] <superkuh> Does 8.04 desktop's X server have XRandR extensions built in? If so, are they enabled?
[09:03] <Grobvok> Agion: use stand-by or sleep.
[09:04] <Agion> Grobvok: ok
[09:04] <Dexikiix> what the fluffy
[09:04] <Dexikiix> ikonia
[09:04] <Dexikiix> im not being bad
[09:04] <ikonia> Dexikiix: come on, everyone knows what it means, please just self moderate
[09:04] <Dexikiix> k
[09:04] <ikonia> thanks
[09:04] <kostkon> Dexikiix, the names of each package? oh, i see, one package from the deb one from the PPA you have added
[09:04] <Dexikiix> kostkon: does it make a different if i do "Open with GDebi" or through the terminal?
[09:05] <tparcina> is 4,3 GB HDD enouth to install Ubutnu 8.04?
[09:05] <ikonia> tparcina: yup
[09:05] <Dexikiix> difference*
[09:05] <kostkon> Dexikiix, w8.
[09:05] <Grobvok> tparcina: Yes.
[09:05] <nullmin1> the solution to my problem is aptoncd
[09:05] <tparcina> ikonia: can i go thrue usual graphical instalation or should I do some "special way of instalation"?
[09:06] <kostkon> Dexikiix, what exactly do you mean that you have 2 packages?
[09:06] <nullmin1> it does exactly what I asked
[09:06] <ikonia> tparcina: normal desktop install should be fine
[09:06] <ikonia> nullmin1: excellent idea
[09:06] <tparcina> ikonia: thank you weary much!
[09:06] <Dexikiix> when i completely removed the package (1.32) i did another search to make sure and it said i had one that was ready for install (1.29)
[09:06] <Dexikiix> kostkon: ^^
[09:06] <nullmin1> ikonia: thx for the help, ill post my results in here :D
[09:07] <Dexikiix> kostkon: at first i thought they were simultaneously installed
[09:07] <ikonia> nullmin1: we don't need to see the results, aptoncd is a good idea, well thought out
[09:07] <kostkon> Dexikiix, ok. I suppose the one is from the PPA
[09:07] <mst> does anybody know if there's a prepack way to persuade modern server ubuntus to install with a real init and without silly stuff like mtab.sh ?
[09:07] <Chris|> is this the correct address to contact ubuntu about trademarks<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:08] <ikonia> mst: real init ?
[09:08] <Dexikiix> kostkon: when running the .deb it says "an older version is available in the software channel"
[09:08] <mst> ikonia: not upstart
[09:08] <ikonia> mst: do you mean a sysvinit ?
[09:08] <mst> ikonia: right
[09:08] <Cloud> omgwtfbbq linux!
[09:08] <tparcina> what's diference between ubuntustudio-8 04 and ubuntustudio-8 04 1-alternate?
[09:08] <Dexikiix> it tells me i should get that but not how
[09:08] <ikonia> mst: sure, remove upstart and install sysvinit
[09:08] <kostkon> Dexikiix, yes. doesn't matter
[09:08] <mst> ikonia: basically, I want 6.06 but with the modern packages
[09:08] <Dexikiix> kostkon: ok
[09:08] <kostkon> Dexikiix, continue
[09:08] <ikonia> Cloud: what ?
[09:08] <mst> ikonia: will that get rid of the mtab.sh crap that means half my filesystems aren't in fstab?
[09:08] <ikonia> mst: sysvinit i in the repos,
[09:08] <kahn> bar bee Q
[09:08] <Cloud> hi :P
[09:09] <Grobvok> barbie-q
[09:09] <kahn> lol
[09:09] <zvacet> tparcina : probably just updates and fixes
[09:09] <Dexikiix> kostkon: still not there after doing the deb again
[09:09] <ikonia> mst: I don't think mtab.sh is anything to do with uptstart, it's just an init script
[09:09] <Zicks> anyone know how to setup dual monitors?
[09:10] <superkuh> When I try, xrandr -q, I get, "Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0"". I know it's a horribly vague question, but is this 'normal' for 8.04?
[09:10] <mst> ikonia: right. a random non-standard one that replaces part of /etc/fstab
[09:10] <ikonia> mst: nothing replaces /etc/fstab
[09:10] <mst> ikonia: I liked 6.06. it was like linux, but with hardware support and up to date packages
[09:10] <kostkon> Dexikiix, hmm.
[09:10] <superkuh> Zicks: What graphics card(s) do you have?
[09:10] <ikonia> mst: what do you think replaces fstab ?
[09:10] <mst> ikonia: mtab.sh mounts things. I end up with mounted filesystems as standard that aren't in fstab
[09:10] <ikonia> mst: such as ?
[09:10] <nullmin1> nonetdebs also allows me to install debs offline
[09:10] <ikonia> mst: which file systems ?
[09:10] <Dexikiix> im gonna mark the other one for install and see what that does
[09:10] <zvacet> Zicks : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles
[09:11] <kostkon> Dexikiix, yes ok
[09:11] <FuRom> How do I take a screenshot with a drop down menu open?
[09:11] <tparcina> zvacet: ok, thank you
[09:11] <kahn> hit the print screen button
[09:11] <mst> ikonia: I don't have a >6.06 ubuntu handy to check.
[09:11] <xPhilosx2> joejoecircusboy, hey
[09:12] <Dexikiix> kostkon: still nothing... :(
[09:12] <joejoecircusboy> xPhilosx: yo
[09:12] <ikonia> mst: mtab won't mount any physical file systems, just things like /dev/pts
[09:12] <kahn> near f12, FUROM
[09:12] <ikonia> mst: mtab.sh I mean
[09:12] <FuRom> Thanks, kahn
[09:12] <zvacet> tparcina : np and you know that alternate means that you don´t have eye candy installer
[09:12] <mst> ikonia: right. I want to be able to see those in fstab
[09:12] <mst> ikonia: fstab is supposed to be the filesystem table
[09:12] <FuRom> kahn, nvm, that doesn't work when you have a menu open.
[09:12] <ikonia> mst: they are not file systems
 true
[09:13] <ikonia> mst: if you want to set it up in another way, remove mtab.sh from init and put them in /etc/fstab
[09:13] <Agion> http://pastebin.ca/1095482 any help?
[09:14] <Grobvok> It's weird, taking screenshots with opened menus does not work.
[09:14] <mrnotproper> Hi, is someone now the name of the gtk application that I can choose my driver and my resolution for Xorg ?
[09:14] <kahn> FuRom: use the accessories program, it works just tried it
[09:14] <FuRom> kahn, ah, snap, thanks, I never noticed that.
[09:14] <kahn> greta
[09:14] <kahn> great
[09:15] <kane77> mrnotproper, displayconfig-gtk
[09:15] <mst> ikonia: right
[09:15] <Dexikiix> kostkon: I am supposed to be going to Accounts > Add > and choosing a protocol, correct?
[09:15] <mst> ikonia: I was just sort of wondering if there was a grumpy-unix-admin-buntu somewhere
[09:15] <walt> hi
[09:15] <mst> ikonia: other than debian :)
[09:15] <mrnotproper> kane77, thanks a lot
[09:15] <ikonia> mst: pardon ?
[09:15] <ikonia> mst: if it helps a lot of my systems use sysvinit also
[09:15] <zvacet> mrnotproper : in system>preferences main menu>other>screen and graphic
[09:16] <walt> i have a problem with my sansa e200 mp3 player. it is only recognized by kubuntu 8.04 if i remove the ehci_hcd module, resulting in an awfully slow file transfer rate
[09:16] <mst> ikonia: right. but what bugs me is if init got redone
[09:16] <mst> ikonia: what other things got redone with bleeding edge stuff
[09:16] <mst> ikonia: and is there a list somewhere so I can have a conservative system using a modern ubuntu
[09:16] <Dexikiix> kostkon: thanks for trying but i am going to bed now
[09:16] <ikonia> mst: it didn't get re-done, it was quite well publicised that upstart was going in ubuntu from 6.10 onwards I think
[09:16] <ikonia> maybe 7.04
[09:17] <ikonia> mst: same thing with things like libata
[09:17] <mst> ikonia: redone as in replaced.
[09:17] <mst> ikonia: yes, I know it was widely publicised
[09:17] <mst> ikonia: I kind of expected it to spend a few years in the desktop version first though
[09:17] <ikonia> mst: so you don't need to worry about "what else got done" changes like that are well publicised
[09:18] <ikonia> mst: the desktop code base is the same as the server, why would it stay in the desktop version for a few years ? upstart is a proven technology before ubuntu picked it up
[09:18] <mst> ikonia: because I'm a paranoid conservative bastard :)
[09:19] <kostkon> Dexikiix, ok. gnight
[09:19] <ikonia> mst: I still set systems up with the older setup a lot of the time as I too lean towards it, but I'm not concerned with things like upstart - if I use them I'm confident they are solid
[09:24] <kahn> gi
[09:25] <kahn> hi
[09:25] <mst> ikonia: right. but I'm wondering how to pick out the "we've changed something old unixheads assume is standard" bits from changes as opposed to the noise
[09:25] <DozedOnLinux> hi
[09:25] <ikonia> mst: check the release notes
[09:25] <mst> ikonia: I mean, is there anything other than sysvinit you regularly change for something else on a basic install?
[09:26] <ikonia> mst: depends from what point, if you are looking at say 10 years ago, loads has changed udev/hal/dbus/libata/upstart/etc etc, if you look at 7.10 -> 8.04 - not much, check the release notes of the vesion you want to install
[09:28] <DozedOnLinux> 8.04 seems to work better for me, i have less that i have to fix. the install went great. everything pretty much worked, just a few little quarks to deal with
[09:29] <mst> ikonia: ok, I'll have a poke through. cheers.
[09:30] <DozedOnLinux> ikonia: i was going to ask you a question earlier, but, now i seem to have forgotten what it was, being that you had been busy with someone. i know it will come back to me eventually.
[09:30] <ikonia> DozedOnLinux: ok
[09:31] <t1n0m3n> Hi
[09:32] <joejoecircusboy> tin-omen?
[09:32] <Scorp_> joejoecircusboy: hey, how do i install firefox 3.0 ??? it says there are unmet dependencies...
[09:33] <Scorp_> joejoecircusboy: i removed firefox but can install it again... :(
[09:33] <joejoecircusboy> Scorp_: What verions of ubutnt
[09:33] <Scorp_> joejoecircusboy: 8.04
[09:33] <t1n0m3n> I am running Ubuntu 8.04 64 bit, I am having an issue with wireless.  I connect to my 802.11a network at home.  Then I disconnect.  And then connect to my 802.11b network.  The only way I can connect to my 802.11a network is to reboot (as far as I know so far.)
[09:34] <t1n0m3n> using networkmanager
[09:34] <joejoecircusboy> Scorp_: apt-get install firefox
[09:34] <joejoecircusboy> ?
[09:34] <t1n0m3n> could this be a network manager bug?
[09:35] <Scorp_> joejoecircusboy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35452/
[09:35] <DozedOnLinux> t1n0m3n: a is slow, is there any reason why you have to use 802.11a instead of atleast 802.11b ?
[09:35] <t1n0m3n> DozedOnLinux:  huh?  802.11b is 11Mb, 802.11a is 54Mb
[09:36] <t1n0m3n> DozedOnLinux: and by far less congested
[09:36] <DozedOnLinux> t1n0m3n: you can manually change the modulation type with iwconfig. check in terminal > man iwconfig
[09:37] <DozedOnLinux> t1n0m3n:  This command force the card to only use the 		specific set of 	modulations listed on the command line. This
[09:37] <DozedOnLinux> 	can be used to fix interoperability issues.
[09:37] <t1n0m3n> DozedOnLinux: When I change the channel to the proper channel (44) it does not help
[09:37] <Scorp_> joejoecircusboy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35452/
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> surely standards and protocols resolve interoperability issues
[09:38] <t1n0m3n> DozedOnLinux: I set the AP to the proper bssid and it does not help
[09:38]  * ActionParsnip can smell broadcom
[09:38] <t1n0m3n> I restart all networking and it does not help
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> t1n0m3n: you could try manually editting /etc/network/interfaces
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> t1n0m3n: and set all parameters there
[09:39] <joejoecircusboy> Scorp_: No idea, sorry
[09:39] <DozedOnLinux> ActionParsnip: reading from the documentation on iwconfig. i havent had to use 802.11a, but i recalled seeing the issue there
[09:39] <Scorp_> joejoecircusboy: which firefox do u have and how did u install it ??
[09:39] <havocstorm> sup guys
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> sup havocstorm
[09:39] <havocstorm> Does anyone here have an iphone?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> DozedOnLinux: ive never used .11a its fairly pointless
[09:40] <ikonia> havocstorm: why don't you ask your question
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> havocstorm: no, but whats your issue
[09:40] <t1n0m3n> it is only switching between the two that I have issues.  If I use either one exclusively per boot session, I am fine
[09:40] <havocstorm> Does ubuntu have support of syncing with ipones?
[09:40] <joejoecircusboy> Scorp_: the same firefox package you're trying to install...  (it came installed by default)
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> !gpod | havocstorm
[09:41] <t1n0m3n> What is the command to restart network manger?
[09:41] <joejoecircusboy> Scorp_: If you have any 3rd party repos, try disabling them and try again
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> t1n0m3n: sudo /etc/ini.d/network restart
[09:41] <DozedOnLinux> restart network > sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:41]  * ActionParsnip has a symlink in /usr/bin
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> !ipod | havocstorm
[09:42] <gnumm> does anyone know if pulseaudio will be better in ubuntu 8.10?
[09:42] <t1n0m3n> ActionParsnip: I have done that, it is Network Manager that I think is confused... not the networking
[09:42] <seiya> Is there a BitTorrent client that can run completely in the command line and has a nice web interface?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> havocstorm: iphone is essentially an ipod
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> !torrent | selocol
[09:42] <havocstorm> ACtionParsnip, thanks for all the links
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> bah
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> seiya: I use ktorrent which has a web interface as well as an app for the local xserver (which it needs)
[09:43] <DozedOnLinux> t1n0m3n: you can make scripts to run for each location, maybe i can find the docs on that situation
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> seiya: id hit up torrentflux or azureus
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> t1n0m3n: you could have 2 configs and switch between / restart networking via a script
[09:44] <t1n0m3n> DozedOnLinux: That is what I am thinking, I am trying to find a cli way to get the network to work again...  I can script that
[09:44] <seiya> ActionParsnip: TorrentFlux is too complicated and the interface is clunky at best. Can Azureus run in the command line (without X)?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> seiya: i believe so
[09:45] <boaz> I get this error message when I try to log in: http://pastebin.com/d20022540  Is there some way to fix this?
[09:45] <C0p3rn1c> are there any important programs that are not supported by the 64 bit edition of ubuntu?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> seiya: i run ktorrent which is swet for me but it needs X
[09:45] <C0p3rn1c> like netbeans
[09:45] <joejoecircusboy> C0p3rn1c: NetBeans should be fine
[09:46] <C0p3rn1c> I shouldn't worry about installing the 64 bit edition then ?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> boaz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288053
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> boaz: its a permission issue with /tmp
[09:47] <C0p3rn1c> what about nvidia drivers?
[09:47] <boaz> ActionParsnip, many thanks! I'll read that now.
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> boaz: websearching is your friend
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> C0p3rn1c: envyng is good for drivers but can be hit and miss
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> C0p3rn1c: flash is a bit of a pain in 64bit but not hard
[09:49] <boaz> ActionParsnip, yes. I usually do a web search first, but didn't remember to this time. Thanks again.
[09:49] <C0p3rn1c> ActionParsnip:  and wine?
[09:49] <highvoltage> howdy! I enabled ufw, now I can't browse for printers on the network
[09:49] <highvoltage> which ports should I have open in order to do that?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> C0p3rn1c: yeah wine is sweet like always
[09:49] <C0p3rn1c> ok cool
[09:50] <C0p3rn1c> then I guess I'll give it a try
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> C0p3rn1c: plus itll use your cpu more efficiently
[09:51] <C0p3rn1c> I'm going to install it on my Dell latitude D830 laptop
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> should be sweet, intel wifi loves ubuntu
[09:52] <RoshanK> asdf
[09:52] <RoshanK> nvm
[09:52] <C0p3rn1c> ok thx for the advise guys
[09:52] <DozedOnLinux> t1n0m3n:  not much documentation on that at all. prob being noone uses it any longer
[09:52] <pretender> can anyone tell me how to install ubuntu-manager in hady is there a deb package i can download
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> !ubuntu-manager
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> !nfo ubuntu-manager
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> !info ubuntu-manager
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> pretender: how do you mean ubuntu-manager
[09:53] <DozedOnLinux> ActionParsnip: remind me not to look for ancient tombs of Egypt :P
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> DozedOnLinux: dude! dude!
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> DozedOnLinux: dont look for any egyptian tombs
[09:54] <DozedOnLinux> ActionParsnip i found a whole 8 pages on the subject, none of which were good. lol
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> DozedOnLinux: specially the old ones. or ancient as some say
[09:55] <micheluntu> hi all
[09:56] <micheluntu> i'm upgrading from gutsy to hoary
[09:56] <micheluntu> now it's about 30 min the is running postint locales
[09:56] <DJones> micheluntu: Do you mean gutsy to hardy? Hoary is an old version
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> micheluntu: yep its gonna be a while
[09:56] <master_> hello
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> hi master_
[09:57] <DozedOnLinux> micheluntu: seemed to have taken a little longer to install 8.x over 7.x but 8.x worked much nicer
[09:57]  * C0p3rn1c is going to study JSP
[09:58] <micheluntu> DozedOnLinux: yes put the process is taking 100% cpu and have a child process (gzip) defunct
[09:58] <DozedOnLinux> micheluntu: well then no waste of energy if it is using 100% ;)
[09:59] <Ontolog> Why is it that even after running Network Settings, I still have to open a shell and "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart". Is it suppose to work this way?
[09:59] <DozedOnLinux> ActonParsnip : i Im you ? just something quick
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> SURE
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> oops
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> sorry
[09:59] <Pollero> is there going to be update for amsn x86_64bit or should i remove this shitty distro ?
[09:59] <ikonia> Pollero: watch the language
[09:59] <Pollero> even debian has fixed this problem
[09:59] <ikonia> Pollero: thats uncalled for
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Pollero: so youd change OS just for the sake of a crappy IM client?
[10:00] <Pollero> ActionParsnip: not just for that. Also flash not working when fullscreen.  But this is my first 64bit so
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Pollero: flash fullscreen + compiz doesnt mix
[10:00] <Pollero> i guess its not ready yet
[10:01] <Pollero> ActionParsnip: hmm...ok. Any fixes for that?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Pollero: turn off compiz if you want fullscreen
[10:01] <Pollero> lol, or not :D
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Pollero: compiz is absolute junk and causes more issues than i care to name
[10:01] <Pollero> it's not option. I want that everything works smoothly like my servers do
[10:02] <ikonia> Pollero: desktops and servers are different uses/technologies, don't compare
[10:02] <Pollero> well it starts to looks like it. It just that its year 2008 and gnome looks ugly as hell without anykind of candy
[10:02] <ikonia> Pollero: don't use it then
[10:02] <Pollero> ikonia: well i know that better then you can imagine.. :)
[10:02] <ikonia> Pollero: but compiz in any distro is the same
[10:02] <Pollero> ok, thanks for info
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Pollero: get fluxbox then, simple and beautiful
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> and remove compiz
[10:03] <bony> i am trying to install open ldap server on to a system in a college. I read the entire help page that is there in help.ubuntu.com regarding ldap.  the problem is that i installed the packages that are required to start ldap server and also configured the client in order to connect to the server and get the username  but when i try to do so i get and error say "can not connect to the server" were as when i nmap the server with its ip i could see the port is open
[10:03] <bony> can some one help me out?
[10:03] <t1n0m3n> hmm, OK, had to reboot.  I am on 802.11a now, but as soon as I switch to 802.11b I can no longer switch back to 802.11a until a reboot.  /etc/init.d/network restart does nothing.  I am thinking Network Manager is getting confused, but I can't seem to find a way to resart it and the applet
[10:03] <DozedOnLinux> is it safe to remove all that OpenOffice stuff? i dont belive i will ever use it. is there any common apps that use it ? like the bacis editors and such ?
[10:03] <master_> i have a problem, my privat folder from ubuntu is away....i see only the private folder under desktop
[10:03] <ikonia> bony: ok - so you know the port is open and listening - thats great.
[10:04] <bony> ikonia, yeah
[10:04] <ikonia> bony: so the problem is either credentials/schema or authentication
[10:04] <ikonia> DozedOnLinux: open office is self contained
[10:04] <Pollero> DozedOnLinux: can you even remove that in ubuntu. whole desktop is some meta package and if you remove openoffice its gonna remove lots of other stuff too
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> t1n0m3n: STICK TO B THEN, SIMPLE
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> sorry for caps, fat hands + tiny keyboad +hung over
[10:04] <ikonia> Pollero: no its not - it's a meta package
[10:04] <ikonia> Pollero: it won't remove anything other than openoffice
[10:04] <t1n0m3n> ActionParsnip: Um, no
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> t1n0m3n: why do you need .11a?
[10:05] <bony> ikonia, well i have a doubt regarding dns name. is it required to have the ip to be binded with a name? can't i configure ldap with out worrying of name?
[10:05] <t1n0m3n> ActionParsnip: Because it is faster and less congested
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> t1n0m3n: is it to share broadband only?
[10:05] <ikonia> bony: depends how you refernce it, if you reference it via host/domain name, then yes, dns is needed %100
[10:06] <t1n0m3n> ActionParsnip: File transfers
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> t1n0m3n: or do you copy between the PCs a lot?
[10:06] <t1n0m3n> ActionParsnip: Yes
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> oic, makes sense
[10:06] <blahdeblah-lap> Hi folks.  I've got a 7.10 to 8.04 upgrade going on my wife's desktop machine, and it is hanging generating locale data.  A localedef process is using all of 1 CPU core and it can't be killed, even with a kill -9.  In the system monitor it shows up as using CPU in system mode.  What should i do to get the upgrade completed?
[10:06] <bony> ikonia, well i don
[10:06] <DozedOnLinux> Pollero: thats what concerned me, now i need to cross-reference the dependencies. guess i will see what included with th packages
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> t1n0m3n: my file seervers use wired as its slick and fast
[10:07] <master_> kann hier jmd deutsch?
[10:07] <ikonia> bony: ok, if you reference it via ip - you should be fine without dns
[10:07] <bony> ikonia, 't want the client to refer the server with a host name
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> t1n0m3n: laptops use wireless due to it being faster than my broadband
[10:07] <ikonia> !de | master_
[10:07] <ikonia> bony: then you need dns or some form of name resolution
[10:07] <Pollero> DozedOnLinux: yea i know. Im not going to even say how stupid that is.. :)
[10:07] <bony> ikonia, well but how to configure ldap in order to skip domain name?
[10:07] <ikonia> bony: you can't
[10:08] <ikonia> bony: you'd have to use ip
[10:08] <bony> ikonia, yes i wan't to use only ip and not any hostname associated with the ip.
[10:08] <DozedOnLinux> Pollero:  i took out what i didnt want or need through Add/Remove. just trying to streamline it a bit.
[10:08] <deviant> hi all - where does ubuntu keep the desktop backgrounds by default?
[10:08] <Pollero> DozedOnLinux: ok.
[10:08] <ikonia> deviant: /usr/share/wallpaper I think
[10:08] <deviant> thx
[10:08] <ikonia> deviant: then you add yours where you want
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> deviant: /usr/share/something
[10:09] <deviant> yup, they're there, thx
[10:09] <ikonia> bony: ok - so configure that
[10:09] <deviant> busy switching to openbox for some bizarre reason
[10:10] <t1n0m3n> So I guess no one knows, thanks anyway, I guess I have to jump over to debian and pretend to be a non ubuntu user to get help
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> deviant: cos its slick and neat
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> t1n0m3n: we dont know, sorry
[10:11] <ikonia> t1n0m3n: thats not advisable
[10:12] <t1n0m3n> ikonia: lol, ive done it before when this channel failed me
[10:13] <DozedOnLinux> if seemed to have found the cure for my wifi connect dropping with kernel option pci=routeirq , tried noapic and irqpoll with no good effectiveness. although it worked , it dropped overall system performance quite substantially. old MB, old everything.  Linksys Wireless G v4.1
[10:13] <bony> ikonia, but i am unable to do that can you help me out?
[10:13] <ikonia> bony: change the hostnames to ip
[10:13] <sufehmi_> hi, has anyone encountered situations where you have SMP processor - but non-SMP kernel was installed instead ?
[10:14] <sufehmi_> I have 2 SMP servers
[10:14] <sufehmi_> one got SMP kernel
[10:14] <sufehmi_> another don't
[10:14] <sufehmi_> I tried looking for SMP kernel in the package list, but there is none
[10:14] <sufehmi_> apt-cache search smp
[10:14] <sufehmi_> any hints?
[10:15] <sufehmi_> btw both have hardy installed
[10:16] <UB`> sufehmi_ did you check the repository listed in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:16] <sufehmi_> hi UB
[10:16] <sufehmi_> let's see
[10:16] <mrtimdog> sufehmi_: The standard generic kernel is SMP capable. What tells you that one is not running an SMP kernel?
[10:16] <UB`> sufehmi_ uname -a
[10:17] <UB`> I think you just have an SMP kernel
[10:17] <sufehmi_> yes that's what confuses me too
[10:17] <sufehmi_> here's uname-a
[10:17] <sufehmi_> Linux server01.abangadek.com 2.6.24-17-386 #1 Thu May 1 13:57:56 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:17] <kane77> is it OK if I just replace the CPU? will I have to reinstall ubuntu?
[10:17] <sufehmi_> and top doesn't show its 4 cores as well
[10:17] <bony> well but how to change this option "DNS domain name: ... debuntu.local"
[10:17] <mrtimdog> sufehmi_: You've not got the generic kernel, you've got the -386 one installed.
[10:18] <sufehmi_> here's uname -a from the other server
[10:18] <sufehmi_> Linux server1 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:18] <sufehmi_> oooo
[10:18] <sufehmi_> missed that
[10:18] <sufehmi_> that's why then?
[10:18] <bony> ikonia, well but how to change this option "DNS domain name: ... debuntu.local"
[10:18] <UB`> sufehmi_ aptitude install linux-image-generic
[10:18] <mrtimdog> sufehmi_: Yup, should be simple to fix assuming a little server downtime is available :)
[10:18] <sufehmi_> it is :)
[10:18] <UB`> and reboot
[10:19] <sufehmi_> but the downtime window will be gone in 3 hours, so gotta try this now
[10:19] <sufehmi_> ok guys I'll give this a try now
[10:19] <sufehmi_> hang on
[10:20] <ademidov> exit
[10:20] <ademidov> quit
[10:20] <pale-yafa> Hi, I cant use my Num pad,
[10:20] <bony> ikonia, check the first section of this web page it says that before installing and configuring ldap the system show have FQDN and other requirements "https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html"
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> pale-yafa: is numlock on?
[10:21] <pale-yafa> On boot it ON but it acts as pointer
[10:21] <pale-yafa> ActionParsnip: of course
[10:21] <pale-yafa> off
[10:21] <ikonia> bony: thats the name of your ldap domain, in the example it will be your hostnames FQD
[10:21] <camytza18> Enter text here...
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> pale-yafa: is it a generic keyboard or is it some dodgytech goodness?
[10:22] <Sidde> What does TLS stand for, LTS are for Long Term... ?
[10:22] <pale-yafa> generic
[10:22] <Sidde> Which releases har TLS?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> pale-yafa: good
[10:22] <pale-yafa> ActionParsnip: it was ok before
[10:22] <Serval> Can someone help me install a new gdm theme plese
[10:22] <ikonia> Sidde: TLS is a security encyption
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> pale-yafa: maybe theres some small config for it
[10:23] <peter__> i think dapper and hardy are LTS- long term support
[10:23] <ikonia> peter__: correct
[10:23] <pale-yafa> ActionParsnip: been looking for solution for long but all people just wanted to have it turned on at boot
[10:23] <pale-yafa> for me its not working at all
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> pale-yafa: what make / model is it?
[10:23] <Sidde> ikonia: that i know, so there is no release with the name TLS? cause i have seen TLS mention on sites
[10:23] <pale-yafa> ActionParsnip: nothing at all, been playing around for  days
[10:23] <ikonia> Sidde: I doubt you have seen TLS mentioned in terms of a release
[10:24] <ikonia> Sidde: unless it's a typo
[10:24] <bony> ikonia, so regardless of what name i am giving as the domain name to ldap i can configure it right?
[10:24] <sufehmi_> ok fingers crossed, i'm gonna restart the server now :)
[10:24] <pale-yafa> action: just a made in china:D
[10:24] <stamina> exit
[10:24] <ikonia> bony: you can configure the ldap domain as bon.my.big.domain.for.fun
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> pale-yafa: hahaha genius
[10:24] <Sidde> ikonia: http://www.unixtutorial.org/2008/04/ubuntu-804-hardy-heron/
[10:24] <lng> hi! how do i install rpms?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> pale-yafa: ot another keyboard?
[10:24] <ikonia> bony: most people keep there dns/ldap domains in sync
[10:24] <ikonia> lng: rpm's are not meant for ubuntu
[10:25] <pumadawd> PLEASE HELP ME! im on irrsi with NO GUI, my system is completly dead graphically wise after i enabled 3d drivers, when i try to start x manually it says "no screens found"
[10:25] <Sidde> ikonia: is there a typo in that link
[10:25] <ikonia> Sidde: so there is
[10:25] <Sidde> ikonia: ah
[10:25] <heyjoe> i am currently running ubuntu 7.04 and i want to upgrade to 8.04, i have the 8.04 dvd but not 7.10, what is the correct way to update? (i'm low on bandwidth so i cannot download 7.10)
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> lng: you dont but you can use alien, do try hard to get a .deb
[10:25] <pale-yafa> ActionParsnip: iam sure its something with the os, becuase I have been using it for 1-5 years and it was ok
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | heyjoe
[10:25] <molgrum> pumadawd: nvidia or ati?
[10:25] <Sidde> ikonia: thanks
[10:25] <pumadawd> molgrum: ati (motherboard chipset)
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> pale-yafa: hmm strange
[10:26] <lng> ActionParsnip: i need to get DBDesigner up and running... http://www.fabforce.net/downloads.php
[10:26] <molgrum> pumadawd: try checking your xorg.log, it will say what went wrong
[10:26] <pumadawd> molgrum: where do i find that?
[10:26] <molgrum> pumadawd: /var/log/Xorg.log*
[10:27] <molgrum> Xorg.0.log i mean
[10:27] <ikonia> pumadawd: simple thing to do is edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the line / change the line for Driver "vesa" for your video card driver in the section "Device" for our video card
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> lng: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125911
[10:27] <ikonia> pumadawd: that will get you your desktop back so you can work it through better
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> lng: what does the software do?
[10:27] <lng> ActionParsnip: there's a source tar - i might use it instaed
[10:28] <lng> ActionParsnip: it's ER Diagram/Query Build tool
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> lng: thats a good call
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> lng: wow funky
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> :D
[10:28] <boaz> ActionParsnip, that took care of my problem. Thanks again!
[10:28] <lng> normal
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> boaz: sweet
[10:28] <pumadawd> molgrum: theres so many errors i dunno where to start, also i have no mouse in console
[10:29] <heyjoe> ActionParsnip: if i follow the instructions, and run cdromupgrade off the 8.04 cd it tells me it cannot upgrade from 7.04 to 8.04
[10:29] <ikonia> pumadawd: simple thing to do is edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the line / change the line for Driver "vesa" for your video card driver in the section "Device" for our video card
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> boaz: i just copied a bit of your error and websearched it
[10:29] <pumadawd> ikonia: thanks, whats the command afte ri changed it?
[10:29] <ikonia> pumadawd: reboot
[10:29] <pumadawd> ikonia: ok brb
[10:29] <pumadawd> thanks ikonia  and molgrum
[10:29] <pumadawd> brb
[10:29] <lng> ActionParsnip: thanx for the link
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> lng: np
[10:31] <pumawd> i changed the device to "vesa" but when it tries to start my x, the screen is a garbled mess, and im back into console
[10:32] <tobago> gosh; i receive an error because of my postgres adapter: http://pastie.org/249861
[10:32] <p4_xxx> hi, i  changed my ip to static but evry time i restart my pc, i have to put the DNS on the networking tab, i already confugure the interfaces file. can anybory help me?
[10:33] <sufehmi__> Oh yeah! We have SMP kernel now ! :D
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> pumawd: id backup your xorg.conf boot to recovery mode and fix xorg.conf
[10:33] <ikonia> p4_xxx: sounds like your still getting dns from dhcp
[10:33] <pumawd> ActionParsnip: I already tried that, same results
[10:33] <heyjoe> ActionParsnip: will sudo update-manager --dist-upgrade work?
[10:33] <sufehmi__> THANK YOU mrtimdog and UB
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> p4_xxx: can we see your /etc/network/interfaces
[10:34] <UB`> you're welcome sufehmi_
[10:34] <mrtimdog> sufehmi__: np
[10:34] <p4_xxx> auto lo
[10:34] <p4_xxx> iface lo inet loopback
[10:34] <p4_xxx> auto eth0
[10:34] <p4_xxx> iface eth0 inet static
[10:34] <p4_xxx> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:34] <p4_xxx> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:34] <p4_xxx> network <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:34] <p4_xxx> broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:34] <p4_xxx> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[10:34] <pumawd> ikonia: you still here
[10:34] <ikonia> pumawd: yes
[10:35] <pumawd> ikonia: any ideas?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> heyjoe: i think so
[10:35] <ikonia> pumawd: with what ?
[10:35] <pbn> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 LTS on a machine. At the very last step (6 of 6) where it asks you to confirm you want to format, *poof* it goes back ton step 2 of 6 where you choose your timezone... any idea ? Isn't there a log of messages on a ctrl-alt-fx ?
[10:35] <pumawd> ikonia: hmm i guess my nick changed as well, okay im the guy who had x issus (still no gui), i tried changing the device section name to vesa, but my screen is still a garbled mess when i reboot and now im back into console
[10:36] <ikonia> pumawd: I just wasn't following the conversation
[10:36] <jimqode> pumawd, did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[10:36] <chazco> Hi... how can I improve Ubuntus boot time? On the same hardware it takes Ubuntu 71 seconds (48 to GDM, 23 to desktop) when Windows XP takes just 47 (27 to login prompt, 20 to usable desktop)... ideas?
[10:36] <xnv> chazco: Here's one: Ask Google
[10:36] <ikonia> pumawd: you've changed the driver line to say "vesa"
[10:36] <pumawd> ikonia: yes
[10:37] <pumawd> jimqode: no, should i try that?
[10:37] <xnv> chazco: Tons of people have already looked into this
[10:37] <p4_xxx> auto lo,      iface lo inet loopback ,     auto eth0,     iface eth0 inet static,     address <IP_ADDRESS>,       netmask  <IP_ADDRESS>,           network <IP_ADDRESS> ,          broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>,          gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:37] <chazco> Googled it quite a bit, no reliable advice it seems... lots of ideas, little success
[10:37] <jimqode> pumawd, yes. try that please.
[10:37] <ikonia> pumawd: and there is no other driver line in there, nothing that says fglx or anthing like that
[10:37] <ikonia> p4_xxx: you've been asked to use the pastebin
[10:37] <xnv> chazco: Then that's probably your answer.
[10:37] <jimqode> !pastebin | p4_xxx
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> p4_xxx: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2248
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> p4_xxx: youll need gksu gedit to edit the file
[10:38] <chazco> So its either stick with XP or try another distro?
[10:38] <pumawd> ikonia: correct thats it
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> p4_xxx: not sudo gedit like it says
[10:38] <p4_xxx> sorry i dint knew
[10:38] <pumawd> jimqode: ok will do it now
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> p4_xxx: simple websearching...i didnt know either
[10:39] <jimqode> chazco, the next version will improve boot times. with hardy there's nothing you can do except disable the services you don't need.
[10:39] <pjvandehaar> pumawd:try out xubuntu?
[10:39] <chazco> Hmm... could be a problem then... going to be a while before the next release... may try Arch again, but it takes a lot of data to update
[10:39] <Jaef> Hi, I just booted from a Live CD for the first time due to some delightful dll malfunctions in Vista causing explorer not to start, I'm trying to get into my hard drives to restore some files but it doesn't want to mount them since the log file indicates an improper shutdown. Any tips?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> chazco: turn on pc then make a drink / visit the toilet or brush teeth if the 47 seconds is too long to bear
[10:40] <jimqode> Jaef, boot into windows first. then shutdown gracefully.
[10:40] <chazco> ActionParsnip - Its when running from battery that it starts to be an issue... at a desk its not so bad
[10:40] <pjvandehaar> or get asus splashtop!
[10:41] <Jaef> You think a hard button shutdown from the login screen would work? I can't even log in to Vista
[10:41] <Jaef> And there's no shutdown option from the login screen IIRC
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> chazco: get solid state hard drive
[10:41] <chazco> Will just try another distro first, thanks for the help anyway
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Jaef: hold it down for 5 seconds, it WILL shutdown ;)
[10:42] <jimqode> Jaef, pressing the shutdown button once, for a short time should do a clean shutdown
[10:42] <Jaef> Alright, then the drives should mount in Ubuntu here?
[10:42] <jimqode> ActionParsnip, he needs to do a clean shutdown to mount the drive
[10:42] <jimqode> Jaef, yes they should
[10:42] <Jaef> Great, thanks
[10:42] <Chris|> anyone know a fix to this error message? http://i35.tinypic.com/2v3g3fo.jpg
[10:42] <Jaef> Ubuntu is pretty classy...
[10:43] <Jaef> If I didn't play games I would probably run this all the time
[10:43] <sobersabre> hi. is there a 1.5.x subversion client for ubuntu ?
[10:43] <jimqode> Chris|, probably your installation cd is broken
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> jimqode: looks like you have the cd as a repository
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> jimqode: is that an eeepc?
[10:43] <jimqode> ActionParsnip, it looks like a livecd install to me.
[10:43] <ikonia> sobersabre: I think so yes
[10:43] <ikonia> sobersabre: it's not bleeding edge but not far
[10:43] <Chris|> jimqode, you sure, it installs just fine.. it gives me that error then continues, and finishes
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> jimqode: did you md5 check the cd?
[10:44] <jimqode> Chris|, it probably failed to install some packages. you system may spit out errors even if it works.
[10:44] <rconan> My keyboard layout in X seems to be broken. All the keys make non-ASCII characters. The GUI still shows the correct layout. Any thoughts?
[10:44] <jimqode> ActionParsnip, it is not me having a problem, i'm trying to help
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> jimqode: my bad
[10:44] <p4_xxx> is there a manual i can follow closely to solve problems in ubuntu?, i used suse for one year, a didnt like it to dificult for me, then i choose ubuntu i like it but now whith problems i look on hte web but i cant solve simple problems
[10:45] <Chris|> jimqode, thanks, the thing is its a livecd I made, I'm looking for a way to fix it so it doesn't send that error anymore
[10:45] <Chris|> p4_xxx, go to the ubuntuforums and register there, they will help with your problems
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> p4_xxx: there are man pages for your apps and websearches for most things
[10:45] <jimqode> Chris|, what do you mean made? Did you remaster it or just burned an image?
[10:45] <kingfishr> Chris|, burn a new one...?
[10:46] <Chris|> jimqode, remaster
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Chris| did you md4 check the image you downloaded?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> or md5
[10:46] <Chris|> jimqode, if you notice that is not the official release
[10:46] <Chris|> ActionParsnip, no i haven't but i should, thanks for reminding me
[10:47] <jimqode> Chris|, hmm interesting. I remastered a livecd once and didn't get this error.
[10:47] <jimqode> Chris|, it still might be a burning issue
[10:47] <Chris|> jimqode, what process did you use? also its from virtualization so no burning issues
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Chris|: doesnt look good, ive never seen that message
[10:47] <pvh_sa|wrk> heya... i've got 20GB of files i need to send to someone on DVD...
[10:48] <pvh_sa|wrk> does anyone know an easy way to split these over multiple DVDs?
[10:48] <jimqode> Chris|, I mounted the compressed image, chrooted into it, install/uninstall then pack again
[10:48] <jimqode> pvh_sa|wrk, man split
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> pvh_sa|wrk: id personally do it manually but tar can span multiple media with specified sizes
[10:48] <Chris|> jimqode, ah i used debootstrap so it was fresh, I might ask the author of the guide i followed
[10:49] <Ardha_> hello
[10:49] <Chris|> i probably missed a step
[10:49] <pvh_sa|wrk> ActionParsnip, yeah, maybe i should tar / split it - the people on the other end have problem reading > 4GB files, so i can make it into smaller chunks
[10:49] <jimqode> Chris|, yeah that seems like your best chance.
[10:49] <Ardha_> hello..anybody there..
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Ardha_: theres been 3 messages since you arrived
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Ardha_: so yes there is
[10:50] <rconan> Ardha_, no we are all figments of your imagination
[10:50] <Chris|> well so far i've installed it multiple times and get the same error but get no software errors so i dunno
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> chris| if you upgrade from repos it might fix the burp
[10:51] <Chris|> ActionParsnip, ok
[10:51] <claudiu_> hello
[10:51] <claudiu_> hello ubuntu users
[10:51] <snadge> is anyone else having problems with using amsn from hardy? .. mine no longer connects anymore on two machines
[10:52] <snadge> and if i update amsn from svn.. it then works.. so im presuming there should be some kind of update released
[10:52] <Chris|> snadge, nope amsn works fine, but i've had a friend who has had the same problem as you
[10:52] <snadge> as updating from svn is annoying.. i'd rather just click the update button ;)
[10:52] <microwaver> Hello fellas iv' got an issue with Shared Folders
[10:53] <snadge> hmm.. maybe i should check the bugzilla
[10:53] <jimqode> !ask | microwaver
[10:53] <zetheroo> why are the pidgin sound not working except in the Preferences dialog?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> snadge: amsn seems broken. we've had loads of people asking n here. id use another app til it gets resolved
[10:54] <microwaver> when I want to create a share to /home/microwaver/Movies but it always just shares my " / " folder
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> !samba | microwaver
[10:54] <snadge> ActionParsnip: updating from svn solves the problem .. i already use another application (pidgin) but i have multiple msn accounts ;)
[10:54] <jimqode> microwaver, please tell us the steps you have taken to share that directory
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> snadge: sounds like the way forward, i only use pidgin
[10:55] <zetheroo> Since yesterday my Pidgin does not make any sounds in chat boxes ... but in the Prefs dialog the sounds test fine....
[10:55] <snadge> amsn is actually a better msn client than pidgin.. imho
[10:55] <snadge> but obviously pidgin supports other protocols
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: in the individual chat windoow options menu have you got Enable Sounds ticked?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> snadge: it does text and smileys, what more do you want
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> :D
[10:56] <snadge> web camera maybe.. audio chat
[10:56] <rconan> snadge, amsn can be a little buggy i find
[10:56] <kirilos> I need some help installing themes with emerald.Anyone willing to help me out ?
[10:56] <microwaver> jimqode, I went to System > Shared Folders > Added a new folder >
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> snadge: then amsn is for you, i only ise text
[10:57] <rconan> snadge, i always liked it but recent versions are a little dodgy personally (since they added webcam, audiochat etc)
[10:57] <Scorp_> snadge: try kopete
[10:57] <microwaver> jimqode, I then browse to the right folder, give it a name. but when I ad it, instead of using the path I said it had to. it just shows (and uses / )
[10:57] <Scorp_> kirilos: what kind of help ??
[10:58] <snadge> kopete hey.. well, i have a precompiled .deb file from svn on my machine at work.. i'll just download that at dpkg -i it .. i just hoped maybe that ubuntu would release an updated amsn package ;)
[10:58] <snadge> i mean.. they update every other package i dont even care about ;)
[10:58] <kirilos> Scorp_, i think i installed a theme in emerald(I can see it under emerald theme manager)but i cant find a way to enable it!Although it's on the list nothing happens
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> snadge: its not down to ubunti to do that, its amsn's responsibility
[10:59] <rconan> snadge, what is your problem with amsn?
[10:59] <snadge> actually it is ubuntu's responsibility.. they packaged amsn and released it with hardy.. its now broken, an update should be released.. end of story
[10:59] <jimqode> microwaver, you can browse to the folder you want to share, right click on it, then select share folder.
[10:59] <Scorp_> have u enabled emerald ?? type a command "emerald --replace"
[10:59] <Scorp_> kirilos: you can put this command in the sessions startup
[10:59] <snadge> they release bug fixes for other programs in hardy.. so why not amsn
[10:59] <kirilos> ok Scorp_  doin it right now.I think i missed that part
[10:59] <rconan> snadge, isn't amsn from universe?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> snadge: but its not, Ubuntu dont code amsn so they can pressure amsn to rewrite it or threaten to remove it but ubuntu dont code it so its not their deal
[11:00] <snadge> its not as if its a minor glitch.. it wont even connect, whats the point of even having the package there if it wont even work
[11:00] <jimqode> microwaver, follow this guide: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/05/19/how-to-share-files-and-folders-in-ubuntu/
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> snadge: dont get arsey in rooms it makes you look like a troll
[11:00] <kirilos> Scorp_, i added that command,now?What next?
[11:00] <snadge> so remove amsn from ubuntu then? .. it worked for xmms
[11:00] <jimqode> snadge, you can whine all you want in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:01] <Scorp_> use the run application to run emerald --replace for the current session.. after that it should replace metacity and your theme should work
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> snadge: its still not ubuntu or canonical's responsibility to fix the broken application end of story
[11:01] <Scorp_> kirilos: use the run application to run emerald --replace for the current session.. after that it should replace metacity and your theme should work
[11:01] <snadge> ActionParsnip: now whos being the troll?
[11:01] <snadge> ubuntu fixes every other broken application.. why make an exception for amsn?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> snadge: im slinging back so you understand why it sucks
[11:02] <kirilos> Scorp_,  sorry but i cant follow you.I'm kinda new to ubuntu :P could u please make this more clear for me ? :D
[11:02] <Scorp_> press alt+f2
[11:02] <Scorp_> do u get a run application thing ???
[11:02] <snadge> if it wasnt ubuntu's business to fix applications.. there would be no need for the patches to the upstream source
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> snadge: they released the updated package which was given to them by the creators
[11:02] <kirilos> yeah
[11:02] <jimqode> snadge, people fix application in universe
[11:02] <jimqode> snadge, not canonical.
[11:02] <snadge> ahh sorry.. my bad.. universe = don't care.. i forgot about that
[11:03] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: Dude, i guess you need a remap of your settings... Is it actually a big problem if we kinda just go a step forward to help ?? I don't think so
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> snadge: see my point now
[11:03] <Saladin> Anyone wanna help me with my Ubuntu 6.06 Server, and setting up the GUI? I tried it yesterday, but suffered major failage.
[11:03] <rconan> snadge, what version of amsn are you on? there's a version in -proposed which might fix your problem
[11:03] <snadge> well move amsn to main from universe.. so that it becomes canonical's problem :P
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: im in here almost daily helping :D
[11:03] <crazy_bus> there are a few programs the have experimental support for google talk voicechat. But the one I tried didn't work. Can anyone recommended a program that will work if it? (if there is one at all?)
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> snadge: so I was right?
[11:03] <kirilos> oh ok Scorp_ it seems that my theme is enabled,thanks you so much for your assistance
[11:04] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: Yeah, i know.. Am sorry... actually i just read the universe thing... I take that back !! Sorry !!
[11:04] <snadge> ActionParsnip: yes you were right .. now you're being assy :p
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> snadge: i know..sorry
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: its cool man, no worrie
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> s
[11:04] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: :D
[11:04] <snadge> so i should complain to #debian then? since thats where ubuntu stea^H^H^H^Hborrows all its code? :p
[11:04] <Scorp_> does anyone here use a Linksys Wireless router ???
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> snadge: moan to amsn dude
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: indeed i do
[11:05] <rconan> snadge, on a much more productive note. have you tried the version in hardy-proposed (0.97+final-0ubuntu5.1)
[11:05] <Saladin> aMSN is awful, in my experience.
[11:05] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: awesome... Are you able to access <IP_ADDRESS> ???
[11:05] <snadge> rconan: no i havnt.. i have only compiled amsn from svn (made a .deb package) and installed that
[11:05] <snadge> and can confirm that works
[11:05] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: ha .. see I missed your message becasue I heard no sound ... um yes it is ticked
[11:05] <Saladin> Anyone wanna help me with my Ubuntu 6.06 Server, and setting up the GUI? I tried it yesterday, but suffered major failage.
[11:05] <rconan> snadge, oh... well wth are you complaining about then if it works?
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: mines a weird number but i can access my router
[11:06] <snadge> rconan: because i had to compile it from svn.. instead of receive an update ;)
[11:06] <jimqode> snadge, you can find the package maintainer of amsn package and moan to him, bu don't moan too much he's not paid for packaging it you know
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: wassup?
[11:06] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: i got a WAG200G and i cant access the router page... It happens on in ubuntu.. Can access on mobile, windows, openSUSE... but not on my ubuntu installed or even the LIVECD... What could be the reason ???
[11:06] <snadge> so really my complaint is that things in universe.. dont receive updates.. and that kind of blows
[11:06] <rconan> well i think the fix is in the hardy-proposed version as it works for me so had you waited for it to stabilize you would have been fine
[11:06] <snadge> sorry.. unless the unpaid volunteer feels like releasing an update
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: have you turned on any filtering for mac addresses accessing your router config
[11:07] <Scorp_> snadge: Join #amsn.. Maybe they could help...
[11:07] <snadge> ahh.. and that update is in testing.. i see, i didnt even know about hardy-proposed
[11:07] <rconan> and there was a disclaimer when you installed the universe repository i think saying it was not supported by canonical
[11:07] <snadge> at least im learning things ;)
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> learning is good
[11:07] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: Nopes... I even reset it to basics... and tried with a wire too... actually am using it rite now and it works perfectly... but only the access page not workign.. After i enter the username and pass, it just shows a blank page
[11:07] <rconan> hardy-proposed contains things which are in testing for hardy-updates
[11:07] <snadge> so how do i get access to proposed updates?
[11:08] <pulse00> hi all. does anyone knows where ubuntu writes all the apache configuration stuff when installing something like phpmyadmin or websvn ? normally if you do it by hand you would have to add a virtual host to make it accessible through example.com/phpMyAdmin. but i can't find any entries there
[11:08] <pulse00> i mean when installinng it through apt-get
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: try a different browser
[11:08] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: tried even opera... no gud.. any other browser u can suggest ???
[11:08] <penjal> 한글
[11:08] <xnv> pulse00: If you've installed it, you can go into Synaptic and check the properties of the package. It will tell you all the files it installed.
[11:08] <penjal> opps sorry
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> !apache | pulse00
[11:08] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: did I miss anything?
[11:08] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: i can ping, use traceroute, access the net, other computers over wireless.. but not the router page.. isnt that real sad ?? lol
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: can you telnet to it?
[11:09] <xnv> There should be an !excessiveuseofubottu
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: dont think so
[11:09] <rambo3> pulse00, look up debian-administration.org
[11:09] <rconan> Scorp_, what is the output of the command "route"?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> !botabuse | xnv
[11:09] <pulse00> xnv, i have only commandline available on the server. can i view the properties also through apt-get ?
[11:09] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: it says connected to  <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:09] <pulse00> rambo3, ActionParsnip, thanks
[11:09] <snadge> ahh System -> Administration -> Software Sources -> Updates .. got it :)
[11:09] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: what do i do after that ???
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> it should ask you to log in
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> xnv: how do you like those apples
[11:10] <xnv> pulse00: Probably, but I don't know how. Check the man?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> xnv: :D
[11:10] <p4_xxx> is this channel just to ask q on specific topic or aomethin like that, or is there other channel for network prob in ubuntu?
[11:10] <Scorp_> rconan: i sent the output to u
[11:10] <xnv> ActionParsnip: Didn't cover excessive use, just experimentation.
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> !ot | p4_xxx
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> xnv: its as close as i know :)
[11:10] <Saladin> Can anyone help me install the Ubuntu GUI on 6.06 server version?
[11:11] <rconan> Scorp_, unfortunately that looks correct
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> Saladin: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:11] <snadge> 6.06? eww ;)
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> rconan: hes gone
[11:11] <rconan> ActionParsnip, and he's back
[11:11]  * ActionParsnip crashes cymbals
[11:11] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: entered quit by mistake...
[11:12] <kirilos> How can i change the icon theme with emerald,is that even possible ?
[11:12] <Saladin> ActionParsnip: I tried that, got an error message about xserver and broken packages
[11:12] <Scorp_> rconan: anything ??
[11:12] <rconan> Scorp_, it looks right to me
[11:12] <rconan> did you say you can ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[11:12] <snadge> im excited! i found a new update source.. thes recommended and proposed updates are gold!
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Saladin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[11:12] <Scorp_> rconan: the setup is all right.. everythin is connecting.. ping n all works... its just the page that doesnt load.. its a .cgi script based thing.. could that be a reason ???
[11:13] <snadge> 186 megs worth of stuff
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> snadge: yikes
[11:13] <rconan> Scorp_, what happens when you try to load it? what kind of router is it?
[11:13] <s__> helo
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> !hi | s__
[11:14] <Scorp_> rconan: its a ADSL cum wireless router... Linksys.. !! Its working correctly... What else could be the reason ????
[11:14] <snadge> if a proposed update becomes a recommended update.. does it get downloaded again?
[11:14] <kirilos> Scorp_,  i downloaded a icon pack,how can i use these icons?
[11:14] <rconan> snadge, no
[11:14] <isakey> !usb
[11:14] <jimqode> snadge, no
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> snadge: no as you already have the latest version
[11:14] <theunixgeek> kirilos: open the appearance preferences
[11:14] <Scorp_> kirilos: Umm, u need to use metacity for that... just go to system, preferences, appearance...
[11:15] <theunixgeek> kirilos: first tab, drag the .tar.gz file in
[11:15] <cemunal> hi
[11:15] <snadge> thats pretty cool.. does debian have proposed updates too or is this just an ubuntu thing
[11:15] <rconan> Scorp_, i'm a bit lost. there are some routers which don't like firefox but i've never seen one not load at all because of that
[11:15] <rconan> snadge, debian has testing and unstable versions instead
[11:15] <jimqode> snadge, but you may end up with half-working testing version of all sofware if you constantly update from proposed
[11:15] <rconan> i find -proposed ok normally
[11:16] <rconan> but i'm not gonna be afraid to fix something if i do find a dodgy one
[11:16] <Scorp_> rconan: Its not really anti firefox, cuz it works on firefox on windows an OpenSUSE... i guess something is kinda blocking the setup.cgi page from loading.. Is there any firewall or someting by default in ubuntu ???
[11:16] <rconan> not by default
[11:16] <snadge> yeah i read through the descriptions for the proposed updates first
[11:16] <Scorp_> Is anyone here using a Linksys ADSL come wireless router by any chance ????
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: no default firewall
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: let me websearch
[11:17] <rconan> what goes wrong in firefox? does it say can't connect or some such?
[11:17] <gnumm> what is the command to turn on the pulseaudio alsa plugin?
[11:17] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: yeah, dats wat i thought too... there is something bout it... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=348653
[11:18] <theunixgeek> !anyone | Scorp_
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2007-April/016055.html
[11:19] <Cloud> mount /dev/sda /mnt/backup
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Cloudsudo mount...
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Cloud: you'll need sudo
[11:20] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: in this person's case he cant even ping or anything to the router.. But I can..!!!
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: can you access the pcs on your local network?
[11:21] <rconan> Scorp_, so what exactly happens when you try to access the router through firefox?
[11:21] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: yeah... i can...
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: tried factory reset..not just off and on?
[11:21] <gnumm> what can i do that alsa connects to pulseaudio?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> i wouldnt though as the others access it fine
[11:22] <Scorp_> rconan: The loading bar reaches half.. and the page shows loading after entering the correct password and username.. and ya.. the address bar says "http://<IP_ADDRESS>/setup.cgi?next-file=setup,htm
[11:22] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: yeah... pressing the button to reset it to factory defaults... done that also...
[11:22] <rconan> Scorp_, so definitely not a connection issue, some problem with the browser
[11:22] <p4_xxx> can anyone help, i have to write my dns evry time i start ubuntu, i change from dhcp to ip static. http://paste.ubuntu.com/35476/ this is my /etc/network/interfaces file
[11:22] <chills> ey guys i installed openssl via apt-get using kubuntu .. i want to install Crypt-SSLeay it asks me for my ssl libraries .. could someome tell me its path ? or how to find it
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> p4_xxx: can we see your /etc/resolv.conf
[11:23] <Scorp_> rconan: yeah... not a connection thing.. am using it right now to chat with you guys...
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> chills: sounds like you need libssl of some sort
[11:23] <rconan> Scorp_, you got me stumped
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: do you have a vpn connected right now?
[11:24] <chills> hmm.. let me install dev aswell
[11:24] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: Umm, nopes.. how do i do that ???
[11:24] <rconan> ActionParsnip, i checked his route so it's nothing like that
[11:24] <rconan> Scorp_, unless it's proxy settings in the browser?
[11:24] <n3hima> I'm having problems with MTP and a creative zen
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: then its cool, they can cause issues with local stuff
[11:25] <Scorp_> rconan: I tried it from a LiveCd to.. n dat doesnt have any settings... ryt ???
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: you could change your router ip to say <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:25] <n3hima> mtp-detect says there are no devices, and yet the device is plugged in
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: unless you have some fancy stuff going on that it would upset
[11:25] <Scorp_> umm... ok.. i'll try dat
[11:25] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: nah, i'll try..!
[11:26] <p4_xxx> my resolve.conf        http://paste.ubuntu.com/35478/
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: you got default settings in firefox?
[11:26] <n3hima> ?
[11:26] <rconan> ActionParsnip, he's gone
[11:26] <chills> when i install som stuf using apt-get it asks me for the cd rom . is there any way i could like make it do everything onlnie?
[11:26] <n3hima> mtp-detect says there are no devices, and yet the device is plugged in and turned on
[11:26] <rconan> chills, remove the cdrom lines from /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> chills: you need to remove the cd as a repo
[11:27] <chills> thanks ActionParsnip rconan  will do
[11:28] <n3hima> OHSHI-
[11:28] <n3hima> USB ports are turned off
[11:29] <TABASCO> Hi there
[11:29] <TABASCO> How can I activate Java in OpenOffice.org? (Ubuntu 8.04 Hary Heron)
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> !java | TABASCO
[11:31] <TABASCO> ActionParsnip: This package is already installed
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> ok gimme a sec, it usually just links up from what i remeber
[11:31] <TABASCO> ActionParsnip: Sure
[11:31] <ademos> Ubuntu 7.10: Is there any way to disable journaling on a secondary internal harddisk? Such a a storage harddisk? And if so, are their any risks to doing so?
[11:33] <iso9660-073> The last couple of times that i have installed security updates on my Ubuntu Hardy system i can see a connection is established to <IP_ADDRESS> besides the normal security mirror. As far as i remember this connection has never been established before. Are there anybody that can tell if this is okay??
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> TABASCO: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678751
[11:33] <chaos> hello room
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> im gonna split, got a meeting soon. peace out kids
[11:33] <kirilos> How can i associate some files with the program i want ?
[11:33] <chaos> does anyone know where I can get a font that looks like a digital watch
[11:34] <theunixgeek> AdemoS: #ubuntu+1
[11:34] <microwaver> jimqode, perhaps I can't due to reasons i use Xubuntu instead of Ubuntu?
[11:34] <monostone> which software can i use to communicate with a samsung sgh-z170 via usb connection? is it possible to do so via command line?
[11:34] <jimqode> microwaver, sorry I can't remember about your problem. It scrolled off my buffer. Could you remind me?
[11:35] <microwaver> jimqode, --> the sharing issues
[11:35] <microwaver> jimqode, you said to rightclick and then share, but hwen I rightclick on a folder I don't get that option
[11:35] <kirilos> How can i associate some files with the program i want ?
[11:35] <jimqode> microwaver, a-ha sure that's for ubuntu, i didn't know you used xubuntu
[11:35] <kindofabuzz> iso9660-073: if you do a whois you'll see that ip is Canonical
[11:35] <microwaver> jimqode, my bad
[11:36] <chaos> 8-) I need a font that resembles the way the numbers look on a digital watch
[11:37] <jimqode> chaos, http://www.dafont.com/theme.php?cat=302
[11:38] <chaos> does that have a deb installer or some command line instructions?
[11:38] <DozedOnLinux> need to clear my logs, i forget the command to do so. var/log
[11:38] <jimqode> chaos, they are ttf fonts. google it :)
[11:39] <iso9660-073> If i browse the IP-address i can see some release notes on Dapper and Edgy
[11:39] <chaos> thanks jimqode :D
[11:39] <jimqode> chaos, np, have fun! :)
[11:39] <kindofabuzz> iso9660-073: do a whois <IP_ADDRESS> and you will see that it's canonical
[11:41] <Moojk> can someone help me connect to my wireless network using network manager? it doesnt display the image like this:  http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/images/wireless-at-tealuxe.png .. its just two computers and I can't find any way to "enable" it
[11:42] <bazhang> Moojk, what card
[11:42] <iso9660-073> kindofabuzz.. Yes thats right, if i search Google a couple of links show people.ubuntu.com, but i do not understand why connections suddenly is made to this address now and not before
[11:43] <DozedOnLinux> isnt that KDE NetMan ?
[11:43] <Moojk> bazhang: how do I check?
[11:43] <kindofabuzz> iso9660-073:  probably updates
[11:43] <Moojk> when I hover over the tray it says "manual network configuration"
[11:44] <Moojk> looks like there is no going back to auto
[11:44] <kirilos> How can i terminate an application that is not working properly ?
[11:44] <Astronomiconal> Hi guys!
[11:45] <iso9660-073> kindofabuzz.. So you do not think that i should worry about it?
[11:45] <Astronomiconal> I just got my Guitar Hero controller working in Linux Mint.   Kernel alive error.  system pauses.
[11:46] <Moojk> and wlan0:avahi
[11:46] <Astronomiconal> So I'm basically being shunned off? Nice.
[11:46] <Astronomiconal> No wonder nobody uses Linux.
[11:47] <monostone> what can i use to communicate with a usb device that utilizes the following protocol: bInterfaceProtocol  1 AT-commands (v.25ter)? thanks
[11:47] <eltew> Astronomiconal: lots of people use linux
[11:47] <Astronomiconal> Yeah, all 1% of the market.
[11:47] <intreq> hi, how is evry one doing?
[11:47] <kindofabuzz> Astronomiconal: no one uses it?  yeah everyone in here is on windows. =|
[11:47] <intreq> not me
[11:47] <intreq> -.-
[11:47] <Astronomiconal> OK, so then.
[11:47] <intreq> i am in kubuntu
[11:47] <TiredWolf> hey hey hey, is that an offtopic conversation down there
[11:47] <kenkku> Astronomiconal: what's the problem?
[11:47] <Astronomiconal> You have about what..
[11:48] <Astronomiconal> nevermind.
[11:48] <eltew> Astronominconal: lol, well i suppose being open source we dont have the money to advertise on television like MS and Apple.
[11:48] <ikonia> Astronomiconal: FYI: linux mint has it's own support resources, the guys there will help you
[11:48] <Astronomiconal> kenkku, I just got my Guitar Hero controller working on UBUNTU GUTSY *COUGH* *COUGH*
[11:48] <ikonia> Astronomiconal: please use the mint support resources.
[11:48] <bazhang> Moojk, is this ap (on your router) open?
[11:48] <Astronomiconal> And I was wondering if there was a program that will allow me to map the key settings.
[11:48] <kindofabuzz> Astronomiconal: calm down, you're gettin all pissy because no one answered your question as soon as you said it?
[11:48] <kenkku> Astronomiconal: you don't call apple's support hotline if you have a problem with windows, do you?
[11:48] <DozedOnLinux> bazhang: found something for the wifi laptop users. i dont know how i forgot about this. on most Fn + F5 turns wifi radio on/off . not all laptops are the same button combo, but, the wifi icon should be on the correct key. Dell/Gateway seems to like Fn + F2 (unconfirmed).