[07:42] <nosrednaekim> Innosense: hey... now that you know how to recover your X... go ahead...
[07:42] <stdin> !Xinerama
[07:42] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[07:42] <stdin> Innosense: look at that page ^^
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> stdin THANK YOU!!!
[07:42] <stdin> heh :)
[07:43] <eagles0513875> it sounds horrible
[07:43] <eagles0513875> song doesnt play at all i get like clicks
[07:43] <Rajura> Whats the fastest way to install wine?
[07:43] <Innosense> !DualHead
[07:43] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[07:43] <eagles0513875> rajura sudo apt-get install wine
[07:43] <stdin> eagles0513875: it may be some kind of drm, depends where/how toy got the files
[07:44] <Innosense> !Xinerama
[07:44] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[07:44] <stdin> !info wine
[07:44] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[07:44] <eagles0513875> all i wanna do is convert them from wma to high qualit mpe
[07:44] <eagles0513875> what is a good encoder to get for wma and flac
[07:44] <stdin> eagles0513875: have you installed w32codecs ?
[07:45] <eagles0513875> dont think so where do i get them form
[07:45] <stdin> eagles0513875: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[07:46] <eagles0513875> ty stdin
[07:46] <stdin> yw
[07:46] <eagles0513875> ill let ya know if it worked or i haveing trouble
[07:47] <stdin> ok
[07:48] <eagles0513875> i get an error 404 when i run first cmd
[07:49] <stdin> eagles0513875: make sure you put it all on one line
[07:49] <eagles0513875> so no space
[07:49] <eagles0513875> s
[07:50] <eagles0513875> still with it on one line it says erro 404
[07:50] <eagles0513875> nm i think i got it
[07:50] <eagles0513875> its downloading
[07:51] <eagles0513875> where is it going to save what i have downloaded at
[07:52] <stdin> eagles0513875: in the directory you run the command from (your home directory by default)
[07:53] <eagles0513875> ok
[07:57] <eagles0513875> its dpkging as we speak stdin
[07:57] <stdin> after it's installed, try playing the file again
[07:58] <eagles0513875> there r still no encoders for flac and wma
[07:59] <pfein> what's the recommended program for basic photo tweaking?  I'm thinking like whole-image contrast/brightness, that sort of thing...
[07:59] <carutsu> scuse me, how can i run a program with root permisions BUT keepig same user
[07:59] <carutsu> pfein may be Grimp
[07:59] <eagles0513875> sud
[08:00] <stdin> !sudo
[08:00] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:00] <eagles0513875> sudo
[08:00] <stdin> eagles0513875: just try playing the file in mplayer again
[08:00] <carutsu> stdin i know about sudo, but sudo runs as root, i only want root privileges, but kkeping my account name and so on
[08:00] <pfein> carutsu: I want some thing simple, not a paint program (krita's too much)
[08:01] <stdin> carutsu: what do you mean, what are you trying to do?
[08:01] <eagles0513875> they work
[08:01] <eagles0513875> now what encoders do i need to get for flac and wma
[08:02] <stdin> eagles0513875: set them to mplayer
[08:02] <eagles0513875> ok
[08:03] <eagles0513875> there r no options coming up for encoding for flac and wma
[08:03] <eagles0513875> wait
[08:03] <carutsu> stdin: i want to instal webmail in thunderbird however, if i install it as normal user it cant change the dialog so i can choose to make a webmail account, if i run it as sudo i can, but the account is saved as root's and checking mail with root acces is the worst idea
[08:03] <eagles0513875> since im converting them to mp3's do i need flac and wma encoders
[08:03] <eagles0513875> since im encoding them as mp3's
[08:03] <stdin> eagles0513875: no, just encoders
[08:03] <pfein> carutsu: digikam's is ok, thx anyway
[08:04] <carutsu> stdin i mean if i run it as sudo the dialog changes and i can create the account, so i want root privileges but keeping my user name and overall
[08:04] <Berto> hi - got an ubuntu newbie question - i installed 6.10 64-bit, but my repository sources look just like normal ones.  Shouldn't they be pointing to specific 64-bit repositories?
[08:05] <stdin> Berto: no
[08:05] <Berto> stdin, cool, that makes me feel better that i don't have to re-do this :)
[08:06] <carutsu> stdin any clues?
[08:07] <eagles0513875> sry bout that stdin keyboard was acting up
[08:07] <rambo> hello
[08:07] <rambo> i have a problem with "user managment"
[08:07] <eagles0513875> stdin so i only need the mp3 encoder since that is what im encoding the music to
[08:07] <stdin> carutsu: not sure
[08:07] <rambo> it says "The module User Managment could not be loaded"
[08:07] <rambo> what can i do?
[08:07] <carutsu> i think there was a flag or something
[08:08] <stdin> eagles0513875: yeah, and ffmpeg should be able to do that for you
[08:08] <eagles0513875> so i dont have to have the encoders for flac or wma
[08:08] <eagles0513875> and the encoder im using is lame for mp3
[08:08] <kaqq> im looking 4 an ftp client that supports ssl auth tsl and ident plz highlight me
[08:08] <kaqq> 4 kde
[08:09] <guiden> why is the logo of katapult a slingshot?
[08:09] <stdin> eagles0513875: you can install flac if you want, but you said you wanted mp3, so you don't need it
[08:09] <eagles0513875> ya i like flac but it takes up too much space
[08:10] <eagles0513875> is mp3 good format since im encoding them with max bitrate and sampling rate
[08:10] <stdin> eagles0513875: if you like mp3, all my music is in ogg/vorbis, you get a higher quality at a lower bitrate than mp3
[08:11] <carutsu> stdin... i think this will do itThe -u (user) option causes sudo to run the specified command as a user other than root. To specify a uid instead of a username, use #uid. Note that if the targetpw Defaults option is set (see sudoers(5)) it is not possible to run commands with a uid not listed in the password database.
[08:12] <eagles0513875> im encoding them in 320 bitrate
[08:12] <eagles0513875> does that make the audio sound good
[08:12] <Berto> is flashplugin-nonfree in the Multiverse repository?  I have multiverse setup but still not seeing flashplugin-nonfree ( 6.10 )
[08:13] <Berto> ahhhh, no flashplugin for 64-bit linux from adobe......
[08:13] <eagles0513875> its hard to find 64bit stuff not only for linux also windows
[08:13] <stdin> carutsu: so what would be the difference between a user (user1) running the command and running it with sudo -u user1 command, you'll still have the same access
[08:13] <Berto> eagles0513875, yeah i just put this machine together.  i'm not picky but would like flash
[08:14] <eagles0513875> i know its a must for alot of things
[08:14] <eagles0513875> im relatively new to linux
[08:14] <stdin> eagles0513875: IMO, an ogg at 92Kbps sounds as good as an mp3 at 192Kbps
[08:14] <eagles0513875> didnt know that
[08:14] <Berto> eagles0513875, welcome aboard.  i've been using for 9 years, but VERY new to ubuntu
[08:14] <stdin> Berto: there is gnash
[08:14] <Berto> stdin, that's what i'm seeing in the wiki
[08:15] <eagles0513875> thanks berto ive learned so much bout linux using ubuntu and kubuntu
[08:15] <Berto> before this, i had a 7 year old PC running old mandriva... now i'm dual core
[08:15] <stdin> Berto: or you can get flash (from adobe) in a 32bit firefox install
[08:15] <Berto> stdin, hmm which would you recommend?
[08:15] <eagles0513875> berto i got a question have u played around much with clustering
[08:15] <eagles0513875> i started with suse 9.0
[08:15] <eagles0513875> i have a copy of 10
[08:15] <Berto> eagles0513875, no, sorry
[08:15] <eagles0513875> and then i found out bout this  and im hooked on this
[08:15] <stdin> Berto: the one from adobe in a 32bit firefix, gnash is still alpha, and won't play flash 8 or 9
[08:16] <eagles0513875> what i love bout ubuntu is that its not that ram intensive
[08:16] <Berto> ubuntu is really the only way to go for desktop if you ask me
[08:16] <eagles0513875> im using under 256mb of ram out of my 1.2gb
[08:16] <Berto> stdin, so i'd need to uninstall firefox and re-install 32-bit firefox?
[08:16] <stdin> Berto: no, just follow the guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[08:16] <Berto> stdin, yep just clicked on that.  thanks iwll play
[08:16] <carutsu> stdin as far as i'm concerned using sudo logs you AS root, with the flag you run it as your_user_count WITJ root permissions
[08:17] <eagles0513875> berto u play round with wine much
[08:17] <stdin> carutsu: nope, that's not how sudo works
[08:17] <carutsu> stdin, that's what i need
[08:17] <stdin> sudo -u stdin cat /etc/shadow
[08:17] <stdin> cat: /etc/shadow: Permission denied
[08:17] <eagles0513875> and also do u know how i can get my open gl working with my ati gpu
[08:18] <stdin> eagles0513875: you'd need to install xgl, and the ati binary drivers
[08:18] <stamen> hi
[08:18] <stamen> I have compiled now the kernel 2.6.20
[08:19] <eagles0513875> i tried that and yet the mesa3d still says that its indirect
[08:19] <stamen> but I don't know why my usb mouse don;t work
[08:19] <edugonch> Hi, that's also my quiestion, I have problem with beryl and XGl in AMD 64
[08:19] <stamen> does USB HID enables the usb mouse
[08:19] <stamen> because I have desabled this option
[08:19] <stdin> eagles0513875: you get dri with the ati driver, but xgl disables it
[08:20] <Berto> is there a list of US repository mirrors?  I'm getting horrible speed from us.archive.ubuntu.com (35.5kb/s on fiber?  no way)
[08:20] <eagles0513875> so i need to install the binary fglrx driver
[08:20] <stdin> stamen: should, HID=Human Interface Device
[08:20] <edugonch> Oh no, sorry, my problem is that I can't make XGL and Beryl work, My Ati drivers are ok
[08:21] <stdin> stamen: and you need the module usbmouse
[08:21] <stamen> stdin: yes I know the abriviation, but must it be enabled ?
[08:21] <stdin> stamen: yeah, I think usbmouse needs it
[08:21] <stamen> aaa, ok
[08:21] <stamen> there is my mistake
[08:21] <stamen> :)
[08:21] <edugonch> :)
[08:21] <stdin> stamen: just copy the config from /boot and use that to configure the kernel
[08:22] <stamen> yes I will do this
[08:22] <stamen> :)
[08:22] <stamen> 10x bye
[08:22] <stdin> stamen: what guide are you following?
[08:22] <stamen> http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[08:23] <stdin> stamen: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:23] <stdin> stamen: it tells you how to copy the config
[08:23] <stamen> ok
[08:24] <Daisuke_Ido> so far so good.  been running for a while with no lockups and no crashes :D
[08:24] <dylan_> y hallo thar
[08:25] <eagles0513875> stdin its still indirect
[08:25] <eagles0513875> stdin may i pm
[08:25] <stdin> eagles0513875: sure
[08:26] <dylan_> I have a question about having Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu all on the same install
[08:26] <stdin> ask away
[08:27] <dylan_> I know when I installed Kubuntu on Ubuntu, there was some clutter in the menus, but I was wondering if Xubuntu adds much clutter
[08:28] <theshadow> whats a good reccomendation for desktop widgets?
[08:28] <stdin> not much I think, most of the apps in Xubuntu are the same as Ubuntu, so there won't be much more
[08:28] <dylan_> and is there anything like this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31031
[08:28] <dylan_> ?
[08:28] <dylan_> for Xubuntu
[08:28] <LaNCeloT_RW> guys, where do I get FrostWire ? I downloaded a package from the website but after install it didnt start!
[08:28] <stdin> !frostwore | LaNCeloT_RW
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frostwore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <stdin> !frostwire | LaNCeloT_RW
[08:28] <ubotu> LaNCeloT_RW: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:28] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin, OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /opt/  hierarchy
[08:28] <LaNCeloT_RW> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[08:29] <LaNCeloT_RW> but i have java... what should I do ?
[08:29] <flake> can I make the desklets auto start up?
[08:29] <eagles0513875> stdin i just sent ya pm
[08:29] <stdin> dylan_: not sure, ask in #xubuntu
[08:30] <stdin> LaNCeloT_RW: make sure you do "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[08:30] <dylan_> stdin: ok, thaks for the help
[08:31] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin,  sudo update-alternatives --config-java
[08:31] <LaNCeloT_RW> update-alternatives: unknown option `--config-java'
[08:32] <dylan_> um, what's the equivalent of "update-manager" for Kubuntu?
[08:32] <LaNCeloT_RW> I use Ubuntu
[08:32] <stdin> LaNCeloT_RW: not "--config-java" "--config java" with a space
[08:32] <LaNCeloT_RW> 6.10 ADM64
[08:33] <stdin> dylan_: not at the moment, it's being worked in tho
[08:33] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin, great man! now it works
[08:33] <stdin> LaNCeloT_RW: great :)
[08:34] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin, man, how do I enable java for using java with firefox
[08:34] <LaNCeloT_RW> java plugin
[08:34] <stdin> LaNCeloT_RW: which version of java did you install, 5?
[08:35] <LaNCeloT_RW> yes
[08:35] <Berto> stdin, yeah, using 32-bit firefox and 64-bit processor and flash is very painless... thanks for the recommendation!
[08:35] <LaNCeloT_RW> 5
[08:35] <stdin> LaNCeloT_RW: install "sun-java5-plugin" and restart firefox
[08:35] <stdin> Berto: no problem :)
[08:35] <Schuenemann> hey, how can I play FLV files with mplayer or kaffeine?
[08:35] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin, Package sun-java5-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:35] <LaNCeloT_RW> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:35] <LaNCeloT_RW> is only available from another source
[08:35] <LaNCeloT_RW> E: Package sun-java5-plugin has no installation candidate
[08:36] <AxlRose> i think mplayer can play FLV by defauly
[08:36] <stdin> LaNCeloT_RW: how did you install java?
[08:36] <Schuenemann> AxlRose, I get an error
[08:36] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin, apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[08:37] <stdin> LaNCeloT_RW: no, the jre
[08:37] <rbrunhuber> !botsnack > me
[08:37] <Schuenemann> AxlRose, Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[08:37] <AxlRose> hmm let me check mine
[08:37] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin, via apt-get
[08:37] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin, cannot remember the command I used
[08:37] <dg10050> is it dangerous at all to run update-manager from Ubuntu?
[08:38] <dg10050> Kubuntu*
[08:38] <stdin> dg10050: not really, I do it
[08:38] <dg10050> stdin: kthx
[08:39] <AxlRose> Schuenemann: it works for me...what video output are u useing
[08:39] <Schuenemann> AxlRose, actually I get that with any video format, appearently
[08:39] <Schuenemann> I don't know
[08:39] <Schuenemann> where do I check?
[08:39] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  are u using the graphical mplayer or command line?
[08:39] <Schuenemann> graphical
[08:40] <Schuenemann> I opened a video and chose mplayer
[08:40] <AxlRose> when mplayer has the default image showing...right click on it and click preferences
[08:40] <Schuenemann> k
[08:40] <Schuenemann> and then?
[08:40] <AxlRose> make sure no video is playing
[08:40] <AxlRose> click video
[08:40] <boomsang> lu all
[08:40] <Schuenemann> I can't play any videos :p
[08:40] <boomsang> no french here ,
[08:40] <boomsang> ,
[08:41] <maelcum_> hi! what's the currently best command-line tool for dvd writing? still growisofs?
[08:41] <AxlRose> haha
[08:41] <Schuenemann> !fr
[08:41] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:41] <boomsang> !fr
[08:41] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  I
[08:41] <Schuenemann> boomsang, go to those channes
[08:41] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  I'm using the gl video out
[08:41] <Schuenemann> xgma is checked here
[08:41] <Schuenemann> xmga
[08:41] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  change it
[08:42] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  to either GL or x11
[08:42] <stdin> LaNCeloT_RW: what does "apt-cache policy sun-java5-jre" show?
[08:42] <Schuenemann> now it's playing... but very slow
[08:42] <Schuenemann> and I got an error message again
[08:42] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  which one did u use?
[08:42] <Schuenemann> gl
[08:42] <Schuenemann> wait, let me copy the message
[08:42] <AxlRose> try X11
[08:43] <AxlRose> what kind of video card to u have
[08:43] <Schuenemann> Requested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available. Enable it at compilation
[08:43] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin,
[08:43] <LaNCeloT_RW> sun-java5-jre:
[08:43] <LaNCeloT_RW>   Installed: 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1
[08:43] <LaNCeloT_RW>   Candidate: 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1
[08:43] <LaNCeloT_RW>   Version table:
[08:43] <LaNCeloT_RW>  *** 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 0
[08:43] <LaNCeloT_RW>         500 http://br.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages
[08:43] <LaNCeloT_RW>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[08:43] <Schuenemann> seems the problem is the audio now?
[08:44] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  to get rid of that go to the preference again and click on codecs
[08:44] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  change Audio to FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
[08:44] <Schuenemann> I don't think I have ffmpeg
[08:45] <stdin> LaNCeloT_RW: and "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin" says it can't find the package?
[08:45] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  either do I but it works :P
[08:45] <Schuenemann> there is gl2 too, whatever that is
[08:45] <Stalk3r> anyone know why K3b complains mp3 is an unsupported format when my system supports mp3?
[08:45] <stdin> Stalk3r: you need libk3b2-mp3
[08:45] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin, yes
[08:45] <LaNCeloT_RW> no release candidate
[08:46] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  are u looking in the codec section
[08:46] <Stalk3r> stdin: thanks
[08:46] <Schuenemann> yes
[08:46] <Schuenemann> no error message, but very slow this time
[08:46] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  what kind of video card do u have
[08:46] <Schuenemann> what do you have on the video codec?
[08:46] <Schuenemann> a crappy 64 MB SiS
[08:46] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  nothing
[08:46] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  thats probably why gl is slow
[08:47] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  switch it to x11
[08:47] <Schuenemann> no... I used to play them good, with dapper
[08:47] <Schuenemann> well, I don't know what that setting was
[08:47] <Schuenemann> let me try
[08:47] <Bi||aBong> who i can know if the 3d aceleration of my video card is enable?
[08:47] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin, remember that I use an AMD64 Ubuntu 6.10
[08:48] <stdin> LaNCeloT_RW: ahh, that's the problem then :P
[08:49] <stdin> LaNCeloT_RW: you can get it to work, but you have to get a 32bit firefox, the steps are here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[08:49] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin, anything I can do? i have a earlier version of ubuntu  (6.06) working well with firefox and java.. but i canot remember what I did
[08:49] <LaNCeloT_RW> i'll try it man
[08:49] <Schuenemann> AxlRose, it's a bit slow... and I can't make the video larger
[08:50] <Schuenemann> I used to be able to do that
[08:50] <Bi||aBong> somebody can help me?
[08:50] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  ya thats one of the problems with x11
[08:50] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  do you have direct rendering working on your video card
[08:50] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin, this is the version of my installed firefox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:<IP_ADDRESS>) Gecko/20060601 Firefox/<IP_ADDRESS> (Ubuntu-edgy)
[08:50] <Schuenemann> AxlRose, I don't know
[08:50] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin, this is the 32-bit version, right?
[08:51] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  go to a console and fo a   glxinfo | grep direct
[08:51] <Schuenemann> in mplayer it's not checked
[08:52] <Bi||aBong> who i can enable direct rendering?
[08:52] <stdin> LaNCeloT_RW: looks like the 64bit one, but I can't really tell from theat
[08:52] <stdin> *that
[08:52] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin, because i had 64-bit firefox and the icon is different from these one i have now
[08:52] <Daisuke_Ido> does firefox's bookmark manager always suck this bad?
[08:53] <LaNCeloT_RW> but, anyway I' ll test
[08:53] <Daisuke_Ido> move one bookmark to where i want it on the toolbar, and all of a sudden, a dozen other links are in completely different positions
[08:53] <Schuenemann> AxlRose, I typed glxinfo and was logged out
[08:54] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  you were totally logged out of KDE?
[08:54] <Schuenemann> yes
[08:54] <stdin> LaNCeloT_RW: if you installed it with apt, or adept, it's the 64bit one
[08:54] <Schuenemann> I typed glxinfo only
[08:54] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  i've never heard of that one
[08:54] <Daisuke_Ido> and i'm a retard.
[08:54] <Schuenemann> :-/
[08:54] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  u did it in konsole?
[08:54] <Schuenemann> yes
[08:54] <Bi||aBong> i need enable de direct rendering, how i can do this?
[08:55] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  want to try it again haha
[08:55] <Schuenemann> just  a sec
[08:55] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin, it  was already installed after ubuntu installation
[08:55] <stdin> LaNCeloT_RW: ahh, then it's not the 32bit one, just follow the guide on the link i sent
[08:56] <AxlRose> Bi||aBong:  it all depends on what kinda of video card you have
[08:56] <LaNCeloT_RW> stdin, ok, i will follow that.. i have already downloaded firefox 32-bit
[08:56] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  thatis fucked up
[08:56] <Schuenemann> AxlRose, yeah, it really logs me off
[08:56] <Schuenemann> =(
[08:56] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  can u do glxgears?
[08:57] <Schuenemann> yes
[08:57] <Schuenemann> I see some things
[08:57] <Schuenemann> spining
[08:57] <LaNCeloT_RW> I Wish You Could - Martijn Ten Velden (Good Music) hehehe
[08:57] <AxlRose> are they slow?
[08:57] <Schuenemann> yes
[08:57] <Bi||aBong> i have ati radeon 9200 SE
[08:57] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  like jerky slow?
[08:57] <LaNCeloT_RW> oh, glxgears here are slow too
[08:57] <Schuenemann> lol... I don't know
[08:58] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  well what I mean is are they stuttering
[08:58] <Schuenemann> they seem rusty or something
[08:58] <Schuenemann> stuttering?
[08:58] <AxlRose> Schuenemann:  jumpy
[08:58] <AxlRose> Schuenemann: not smoothly turning
[08:58] <Schuenemann> no... I guess I can see they moving
[08:59] <AxlRose> Bi||aBong:  follow this :  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:59] <Schuenemann> sometimes they move the opposite direction
[09:00] <AxlRose> Schuenemann: it would really help if glxinfo wouldn't log you out :S
[09:00] <Schuenemann> I guess so
[09:03] <LaNCeloT_RW> guys, glxgears here are slow too...
[09:03] <LaNCeloT_RW> what should it be?
[09:03] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW: just because it's slow doesn't mean anythings wrong
[09:03] <nosrednaekim> LaNCeloT_RW: try "glxinfo"
[09:03] <Schuenemann> that you log you off :p
[09:03] <nosrednaekim> an see if you have direct rendering
[09:03] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW: jerky...or stuttering is a differnt story
[09:04] <ubuntu_> hrm.
[09:04] <LaNCeloT_RW> AxlRose, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9695/
[09:05] <LaNCeloT_RW> AxlRose, can u check my glxinfo, just to know if it is ok ?
[09:05] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW: well you don't have direct rendering
[09:05] <LaNCeloT_RW> AxlRose, how can i able this?
[09:05] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW: and thats a  problem lol
[09:05] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW:  what kinda video card do u have
[09:06] <LaNCeloT_RW> AxlRose, Gforce MX 440 - 64MB
[09:06] <|Jason8||> Hey guys, I just installed kubuntu 6.06, and now grub gives me an error 15 when I try to boot.  Should I try to reinstall it?  Currently using the LiveCD
[09:06] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW:   have u installed the nvidia drivers?
[09:06] <LaNCeloT_RW> AxlRose, yes, using apt-get
[09:06] <AxlRose> post your xorg.conf so I can look at it
[09:06] <LaNCeloT_RW> AxlRose, what is the command to install nvidia drivers, just to check the installation
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> Jason: you can just reinstall grub
[09:07] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim: how would I go about doing that?
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> |Jason8||: justto be sure, you can't even get to the grub menu?
[09:07] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW:   not sure...I'm an ATI user
[09:08] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW:  i think they are in apt though
[09:08] <|Jason8||> Nope, can't get to the grub menu
[09:08] <|Jason8||> It says "Grub 1.5 Loading" or something like that
[09:08] <|Jason8||> then it says Error 15
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> ok... what drive hda1, 2, 3, etc did you install linux on?
[09:08] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW:   post ur xorg.conf though so I can see that
[09:08] <JernejL> where do i change environment paths in kubuntu?
[09:09] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW:
[09:09] <AxlRose> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[09:09] <AxlRose> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:09] <Schuenemann> AxlRose, weird... when I run mplayer from konsole it enables me to resize
[09:09] <LaNCeloT_RW> AxlRose, i dont think i did it on this fresh installataion of Ubuntu
[09:09] <LaNCeloT_RW> let me do it
[09:10] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW:   http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[09:10] <LaNCeloT_RW> AxlRose, it is installed
[09:10] <AxlRose> Schuenemann: thats because it's using a differnt video out
[09:10] <AxlRose> Schuenemann: i'm not sure what it uses as a defualt
[09:10] <Schuenemann> AxlRose, XV seems ok
[09:10] <nosrednaekim> |Jason8||: are you with me?
[09:11] <|Jason8||> oh, missed that line.
[09:11] <|Jason8||> sorry.
[09:11] <corey> hoe do i install a tar.gz file???
[09:11] <AxlRose> Schuenemann: I've had problems with XV on some things...but if it works for u great
[09:11] <Schuenemann> AxlRose, x11/xv
[09:11] <|Jason8||> It was on hdb1
[09:11] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[09:11] <LaNCeloT_RW> shit! java plugin is not working on firefox
[09:11] <Schuenemann> corey, tar -xvf filename
[09:11] <Schuenemann> corey, you can open it with ark
[09:11] <Schuenemann> LaNCeloT_RW, what is the problem
[09:11] <AxlRose> Schuenemann: does it play smoothly
[09:12] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW:   i'm still waiting on ur xorg.conf
[09:12] <Schuenemann> AxlRose, appearently yes
[09:12] <nosrednaekim> |Jason8||: I suppose hda is always the master ide drive?
[09:12] <nosrednaekim> I'm not exactly sure
[09:12] <|Jason8||> hda is the master drive, yes.
[09:12] <nosrednaekim> ok... good
[09:12] <AxlRose> Schuenemann: problem solved :D
[09:12] <LaNCeloT_RW> Schuenemann, i did what was on the page wiki ubuntu to install java plugin using AMD 64 Ubuntu Edgy
[09:12] <LaNCeloT_RW> but it is not working
[09:12] <Schuenemann> AxlRose, thanks man
[09:12] <LaNCeloT_RW> AxlRose, i will paste it right now
[09:12] <sorush21> hi how do I prevent the upgrade of some of my packages
[09:12] <AxlRose> Schuenemann: no problem
[09:12] <Schuenemann> LaNCeloT_RW, do you have java installed? JRE
[09:14] <nosrednaekim> ok |Jason8||: do this command "mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt"
[09:14] <LaNCeloT_RW> AxlRose, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9698/
[09:14] <nosrednaekim> thats will mount your ubuntu drive
[09:14] <LaNCeloT_RW> Schuenemann, yes, I have JRE 1.5
[09:14] <Schuenemann> LaNCeloT_RW, if you type "java -version" do you get 1.5 output?
[09:15] <LaNCeloT_RW> Schuenemann, java version "1.5.0_08"
[09:15] <LaNCeloT_RW> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_08-b03)
[09:15] <LaNCeloT_RW> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.5.0_08-b03, mixed mode
[09:15] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW: you need to go into ur xorg.conf and go to the section "Device"
[09:15] <Schuenemann> LaNCeloT_RW, you just can't see applets?
[09:15] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW:  change nv to nvidia
[09:15] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW:  then reboot
[09:16] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim: I have to be under root.  How do I do that?
[09:16] <LaNCeloT_RW> AxlRose, already changed, i'll restart later
[09:16] <nosrednaekim> sorry, put a sudo before that command
[09:16] <LaNCeloT_RW> AxlRose, thanks
[09:16] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW:  alright
[09:16] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW:  i'm out
[09:16] <AxlRose> LaNCeloT_RW:  goodluck
[09:16] <LaNCeloT_RW> thanks
[09:16] <LaNCeloT_RW> Schuenemann, yes, i need to use firefox java plugin
[09:16] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim: okay, did that.  no output.  Just makes a new line.
[09:16] <LaNCeloT_RW> to access bank account (for example)
[09:16] <nosrednaekim> ok... good
[09:17] <Schuenemann> LaNCeloT_RW, check this: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=2457750
[09:17] <Schuenemann> I had that problem once
[09:17] <corey> how do i make firefox work with this??
[09:17] <nosrednaekim> now do "sudo chroot /dev/hdb1"
[09:17] <Schuenemann> about:plugins
[09:17] <Schuenemann> plugin.expose_full_path
[09:17] <Schuenemann> sorry, about:config
[09:18] <LaNCeloT_RW> Schuenemann, now the plugin is working
[09:18] <LaNCeloT_RW> thanks man
[09:18] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim: chroot: cannot change root directory to /dev/hdb1: Not a directory
[09:18] <Schuenemann> :D
[09:18] <sorush20> what is the package for kubuntu glx called?
[09:18] <nosrednaekim> sorry, i'm kinda tired... change /dev/hdb1 to /mnt
[09:18] <|Jason8||> oh
[09:18] <|Jason8||> so "sudo chroot /mnt"?
[09:18] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[09:19] <|Jason8||> Okay.
[09:20] <corey> Anyone know ???
[09:20] <nosrednaekim> now do "sudo grub-install /dev/hda"
[09:20] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim: Okay, i'm set.  logged in under root now.
[09:20] <edward_> looking for some help
[09:20] <edward_> anyone know if i386  will work on AMD64?
[09:21] <nosrednaekim> edward_: you mean install a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit machine
[09:21] <nosrednaekim> ?
[09:21] <edward_> yes
[09:21] <nosrednaekim> yeah... that will work
[09:21] <edward_> will it work
[09:21] <edward_> amd64 kubuntu doesn't have macromedia support
[09:22] <nosrednaekim> edward_: yes it will
[09:22] <nosrednaekim> !nspluginwrapper
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <edward_> will everything else work as well?
[09:22] <guiden> you can also have a amd64 os and still use 32 bit program, you just have to have 32 libraries
[09:22] <nosrednaekim> edward_: everthing will work exactly the same (somtimes better)
[09:22] <edward_> sounds great
[09:22] <nosrednaekim> edward_: to install macromedia flash  google "nspluginwrapper"
[09:23] <Schuenemann> corey, what is your problem?
[09:23] <guiden> edward, why do you want a 32 bit os when there is 64 bit versions?
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> |Jason8||: did you do the command?
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> 64 bit can be a pain...
[09:23] <guiden> well a bit
[09:23] <guiden> with flash
[09:23] <guiden> but it's only that
[09:23] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim: just did
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> ok...
[09:24] <Schuenemann> adobe sucks
[09:24] <nosrednaekim> try and reboot now |Jason8||
[09:24] <|Jason8||> sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[09:24] <nosrednaekim> |Jason8||: NM, don't reboot yet
[09:24] <|Jason8||> yeah, it didn't connect to the server.
[09:24] <nosrednaekim> |Jason8||: did you try "su" within that terminal?
[09:25] <|Jason8||> su?  no
[09:25] <edward_> I like 64 bit but in Kubuntu there seems to be lack of support at this time
[09:25] <guiden> oh
[09:25] <guiden> but
[09:25] <guiden> I'm using it
[09:25] <guiden> :)
[09:25] <nosrednaekim> what did you do to login as root in the chroot?
[09:25] <edward_> need java and macromedia support
[09:25] <comosicus> what shoud i do to be invited on a channel
[09:25] <edward_> really like kubuntu and much better than windows
[09:26] <Schuenemann> comosicus, someone has to invite you
[09:26] <nosrednaekim> edward_: proabbaly better to go 32 bit then
[09:26] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim: that one command, "sudo chroot <stuff>" put me under root
[09:26] <comosicus> how do i find that someoane?
[09:26] <nosrednaekim> oh...ok
[09:26] <Schuenemann> I don't think there is a command to see who is in a channel
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> so you didn't enter any commands into that terminal until my grub installer one?
[09:27] <Schuenemann> you could try the network help channel
[09:27] <guiden> it's a waste of potentional power...
[09:27] <bigpig> sorry to interrupt, guys, but my 6.10 system initiated a 7.04 upgrade this morning... should I be suspicious or greatful?
[09:27] <comosicus> thank's
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> bigpig: is it all working?
[09:27] <bigpig> it's not complete, yet.
[09:27] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim: I'm using the same terminal I started when you first told me to run the commands.
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> ok
[09:28] <bigpig> nosrednaekim: let it run, or kill the upgrade and wait?
[09:28] <bigpig> nosrednaekim: this is my primary desktop.
[09:28] <nosrednaekim> bigpig: you might want to cancel
[09:28] <nosrednaekim> whether or not it will work is really wuite arbitrary
[09:29] <nosrednaekim> I'd personally kill it
[09:29] <bigpig> nosrednaekim: okay. should it have autoinitiated? (I did not initiate it. I was prompted)
[09:29] <maniek1990> #ubuntu.pl
[09:29] <nosrednaekim> bigpig: yes... it can do that
[09:29] <nosrednaekim> just cancell it...
[09:29] <maniek1990> Where I' m ??
[09:29] <maniek1990> what is??
[09:29] <bigpig> it seems odd to me that it would have initated on a standard installation.
[09:30] <bigpig> looks like my source.list has been updated to all feisty repositories.
[09:30] <nosrednaekim> |Jason8||: could you exit and redo the chroot step?
[09:30] <nosrednaekim> big pig: uhh oh... too late
[09:30] <|Jason8||> sure.
[09:30] <nosrednaekim> I'm sorry
[09:31] <fdoving> bigpig: is it finished downloading yet?
[09:31] <bigpig> nosrednaekim: did you do that? ;)
[09:31] <nosrednaekim> big pig,... better continue with the upgrade then...
[09:31] <nosrednaekim> bigpig: nah...
[09:31] <bigpig> fdoving: no. it was ~half way through the downloads.
[09:31] <fdoving> bigpig: ok, then you can still kill it.
[09:31] <nosrednaekim> I was saying sorry to jason
[09:31] <bigpig> nosrednaekim: you just seemed like a good victim to blame. (grins!)
[09:31] <fdoving> bigpig: cancel it and change all instances of 'feisty' back to 'edgy' in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:31] <LaNCeloT_RW> brb guys!
[09:32] <dawn> why would I be getting this?? sh: Can't open NVIDIA-linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run
[09:32] <bigpig> fdoving: okay. thanks.
[09:32] <bigpig> any ideas why it initiated this morning?
[09:32] <dawn> i logout of session and stop kdm
[09:32] <fdoving> bigpig: then run 'sudo aptitude update' in a terminal to get the right package-index.
[09:32] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim: this is what I get when I use "sudo chroot /mnt" like you said
[09:32] <|Jason8||> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /mnt
[09:32] <|Jason8||> root@ubuntu:/#
[09:32] <fdoving> bigpig: no, i have a hard time beliving it started by itself. you had to accept it somehow.
[09:32] <edward_> why doesnt there  come support for macromedia with AMD64 like with i386?
[09:33] <bigpig> fdoving: I accepted it, but it doesn't make sense that it was even offered this early in the release cycle.
[09:33] <fdoving> bigpig: true. i'll ask around.
[09:33] <edward_> have one system that it works beautiful on i386 and my new amd64 needs plugins
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> Jason ok.. thats fine
[09:34] <|Jason8||> okay.
[09:34] <bigpig> fdoving: okay. shoot me an email at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if you need any diagnostic or ferensic info from me.
[09:34] <nosrednaekim> then run " grub-install /dev/hda"
[09:34] <edward_> how can I update from 6.06 LTS to 6.10 in Kubuntu?
[09:34] <fdoving> bigpig: do you have edgy-proposed repositories enabled?
[09:34] <fdoving> !upgrade | edward_
[09:34] <ubotu> edward_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:34] <bigpig> thanks for entertaining my questions. I appreciate the work you folks do to give me such a fantastic system!
[09:35] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim: I get the same error.  sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[09:35] <bigpig> fdoving: well, feisty-proposed is currently enabled, so I assume that edgy-proposed was before it got updated.
[09:35] <nosrednaekim> did you do sudo?
[09:35] <nosrednaekim> don't use sudo on that command
[09:36] <|Jason8||> okay.
[09:36] <fdoving> bigpig: that might explain alot.
[09:36] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim: /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.   Do I have to mount hda?
[09:36] <|Jason8||> and wouldn't it be hda1?
[09:37] <bigpig> fdoving: other than automatic upgrades, what's in X-proposed?
[09:37] <fdoving> bigpig: -proposed contains packages that are proposed for -updates, they are in -proposed to be tested. that's why you got the new adept with the fancy upgrade tool.
[09:38] <nosrednaekim> |Jason8||: thats odd...
[09:38] <LaNCeloT_RW> omg! neither flash or java plugin works with firefox
[09:38] <bigpig> fdoving: okay...  thanks.
[09:39] <fdoving> bigpig: every package has to sit in -proposed for a certain amount of time (or till enought developers have confirmed it to be ok), before making it into -updates. adept needs to make it into -updates in time for the next release which happens in ~1 month.
[09:39] <LaNCeloT_RW> i tried to access my bank account and the java loads.. but when i typed the pass it says: "Password Empty"
[09:39] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim: should I mount that drive and try to install grub onto it as "/media/hda"?
[09:40] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim: I forgot to mention, that drive is NTFS
[09:40] <Schuenemann> LaNCeloT_RW, do you see applets from other pages?
[09:40] <LaNCeloT_RW> Schuenemann, can u tell me a page to test it?
[09:40] <nosrednaekim> |Jason8||: you should not need to mount the drive
[09:40] <|Jason8||> hrm.
[09:40] <Schuenemann> let me see
[09:41] <nosrednaekim> if you have an hdb, you would need an hda I would think. yet its saying hda isn't a device...
[09:41] <|Jason8||> There's a hda in there!
[09:41] <|Jason8||> I can see it in /dev/
[09:42] <nosrednaekim> hmm... very odd...
[09:42] <nosrednaekim> VERY odd...
[09:42] <LaNCeloT_RW> Schuenemann, flash is not working out too
[09:42] <fdoving> nosrednaekim: hda is the master on the first ide channel. you don't have to connect anything to it.
[09:42] <nosrednaekim> fdoving:  I know
[09:42] <Schuenemann> LaNCeloT_RW, nowhere?
[09:43] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim: I just looked, there is no /dev/ directory..  There is a /media/ directory, and it's in there
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> there is /dev/?
[09:43] <bigpig> thanks, all!
[09:43] <LaNCeloT_RW> Schuenemann, neither flash or java works ok
[09:43] <fdoving> |Jason8||: can i ask what is the initial problem?
[09:43] <LaNCeloT_RW> using firefox
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> |Jason8||: I think you had better reinstall
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> fdoving: error 15 on grub boot
[09:43] <|Jason8||> Okay, I can handle a reinstallation
[09:44] <edward_> can anyone tell me an easy way to get macromedia support for amd64 in kubuntu
[09:44] <fdoving> |Jason8||: hang on a few minutes, i'll just find out what grub error 15 is.
[09:44] <nosrednaekim> edward_: google "nspluginwrapper"
[09:44] <|Jason8||> fdoving: I looked it up, it's a missing kernel or something
[09:44] <edward_> i did google it and comes in rpm format
[09:44] <nosrednaekim> |your installation is meesed up if you don't have a /dev
[09:45] <fdoving> |Jason8||: just read that. ok. do you have more than one entry in your grub menu?
[09:45] <nosrednaekim> !find nspluginwrapper
[09:45] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:45] <ubotu> Package/file nspluginwrapper does not exist in edgy
[09:45] <|Jason8||> fdoving, I just formatted and installed kubuntu on my second hard drive, originally had Ubuntu on that drive.
[09:46] <|Jason8||> It had Windows XP and Ubuntu as the entries on the GRUB boot menu
[09:46] <fdoving> |Jason8||: so when you boot you get a list of ubuntu kernels, or just 'Windows XP' and 'Ubuntu' ?
[09:47] <|Jason8||> fdoving right now I don't get a list, I just get the error.  but before I formatted, I got a list with Windows XP, and three or four Ubuntu options.
[09:47] <fdoving> |Jason8||: ok, you can hit 'esc' to get the list, can't you?
[09:48] <nosrednaekim> |Jason8||: can you boot windows?
[09:48] <|Jason8||> Nope, can't boot windows and I don't think esc works
[09:48] <nosrednaekim> heis grub and his whole insatll is messed up, fdoving
[09:48] <|Jason8||> It says "GRUB 1.5 Loading..." then instantly it says "Error 15"
[09:48] <fdoving> |Jason8||: are you chrooted into the linux root partition now?
[09:48] <|Jason8||> and just starts that.
[09:48] <|Jason8||> fdoving, yes.
[09:49] <fdoving> |Jason8||: do 'mount -t proc none /proc'
[09:49] <sbalzano> HI ALL HELP ME FOR AMULE
[09:49] <fdoving> |Jason8||: then 'update-grub'
[09:49] <fdoving> !p2p | sbalzano
[09:49] <ubotu> sbalzano: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[09:50] <|Jason8||> Cool.
[09:50] <fdoving> |Jason8||: does it fail somehow?
[09:50] <|Jason8||> menu.lst was missing or something like that
[09:50] <|Jason8||> just made one
[09:50] <|Jason8||> and now it's done, finished.  No errors.
[09:51] <fdoving> |Jason8||: ok. verify that the info in /boot/grub/menu.lst looks ok.
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> fdoving: I didnt know there was that command
[09:51] <fdoving> |Jason8||: with emphasis on the root partition.
[09:51] <|Jason8||> how do I view it?
[09:51] <fdoving> nosrednaekim: it's a handy command to re-generate menu.lst from the available kernels.
[09:51] <|Jason8||> I cd'd to the directory
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> yeah... thats cool
[09:52] <fdoving> |Jason8||: less /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:52] <timster> !mounting
[09:52] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:53] <sbalzano> WHERE CAN I FOUND AMULE SERVER LIST
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> !shouting
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shouting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <fdoving> sbalzano: not here. please don't use uppercase for everything. we can read lowercase too.
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> sbalzano: please do not shout
[09:53] <sbalzano> ok excuse me
[09:53] <|Jason8||> fdoving: looks good, thanks for the help :)
[09:54] <|Jason8||> nosrednaekim: thanks for the help :)
[09:54] <fdoving> |Jason8||: let's see if it works first :)
[09:54] <|Jason8||> okay
[09:54] <|Jason8||> be right back
[09:54] <|Jason8||> rebooting
[09:55] <dell190> how can i install Firefox.. with the tar.gz package??
[09:55] <fdoving> dell190: no, you want to use the packages.
[09:55] <fdoving> dell190: find Adept Manager in the menus, search for and install firefox.
[09:56] <dell190> ok
[09:59] <midtiby> I'm trying to get Beryl to work on my laptop (Dell D420) which is running kubuntu
[09:59] <dell190> is it at all possible to install with the tar.gz file... it would take forever to download on dial up
[09:59] <midtiby> but when I try to start beryl or beryl-manager kde crashes and I get back to the login screen
[10:00] <rambo> hello
[10:00] <fdoving> dell190: it is, but i strongly advise you to use the package.
[10:00] <fdoving> !beryl | midtiby
[10:00] <ubotu> midtiby: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:00] <rambo> i have an mx510 mouse and i can't get to work "back" and "forward" buttons"
[10:00] <midtiby> ubotu thx
[10:00] <dell190> whats the difference ??... im new to linux lol
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <fdoving> dell190: the package is prepared and optimized for ubuntu systems and you automatically get the security updates like all other packages. it also makes uninstalling much easier if that should ever be neccesary.
[10:02] <dell190> hmmm... i'll just stick to opera...since i already have it installed
[10:03] <Bi||aBong> why when i write url the navigator it takes much in opening?
[10:04] <nosrednaekim> !konqueror ipv4
[10:04] <ubotu> konqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5280 kB
[10:04] <nosrednaekim> !konquerorfix
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konquerorfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <dell190> one more question;.....  anyone know where i can get a driver for my Conexant modem that can use the full ability and not just 14.4kbps
[10:05] <nosrednaekim> Bi||aBong: there is a problem with ipv6 and konquror
[10:05] <guiden> are all servers connected in freenode? I mean, if you have a network several irc servers around the globe, will I acces every channel that is in every server?
[10:06] <guiden> i can't type..
[10:06] <Bi||aBong> but i install firefox and the problem continue
[10:06] <fdoving> guiden: if you connect to servers connected to freenode, sure you will access the freenode channels.
[10:08] <guiden> aha ok, so everyone is connected to a main server?
[10:08] <guiden> I mean every server
[10:08] <fdoving> guiden: everyone connects to servers, then the servers connect to each other.
[10:10] <william_> Hi all
[10:10] <william_> PLEASE could someone help and explain to me how to create a new partition on a new serial ATA HD and formate it (ext3) and mount it that everyone using this computer is able to store data on it.
[10:11] <guiden> ok cool
[10:11] <william_> the partition part and the formating wasn't the problem but I just can't get write access for ordanry user
[10:14] <Lrrr> hello, the Kubuntu Dist-upgrade tool refuses to run here: "can't find DistUpgradeViewKDE"
[10:15] <embrik> help me to install the latest java someone..
[10:15] <fdoving> !java | embrik
[10:16] <ubotu> embrik: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:16] <Cobra_Bubbles> Yay!
[10:16] <Bi||aBong> i need help, when i type url in the firefox it takes much in opening and with konqueror is the same problem?
[10:16] <temba> testing
[10:19] <tanubis> anyone know how I would start setting up a webcam with Kubuntu?
[10:20] <fdoving> !ipv6 | bi||abong
[10:20] <ubotu> bi||abong: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:20] <qbe> !webcam | embrik
[10:20] <ubotu> embrik: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:21] <william_> could someone help and explain to me how to mount a new serial ATA HD that everyone using this computer is able to store data on it.
[10:22] <dell190> anyone know a good place for Linux modem drivers ?????
[10:22] <fdoving> !modem | dell190
[10:22] <ubotu> dell190: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[10:22] <fdoving> :)
[10:22] <fdoving> ubotu knows it all.
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knows it all. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <fdoving> yeah, right.
[10:23] <c0nv1ct> william_: use the mount command
[10:23] <fdoving> william_: you got it formatted as ext3, and mounted, right? - the problem is to allow users to use it?
[10:23] <dell190> fdoving:   thankx for the help
[10:24] <william_> fdoving: right I've tried at least 100 different mount optins but it just doesent work
[10:24] <guiden> people are saying they can't understand me when I use swedish letters
[10:24] <guiden> does this get's wierd
[10:24] <william_> not even me with primary group root can write on it
[10:24] <guiden>
[10:25] <guiden> ?
[10:25] <spitwise> looks fine for me
[10:25] <fdoving> william_: that's because you want to have a look at the commands 'chown' and 'chmod'.
[10:25] <spitwise> a with 2 dots and a with halo
[10:25] <Cobra_Bubbles> Hrm... I hope the ndiswrapper method works...
[10:25] <fdoving> william_: ouch.. root can't write to it?
[10:25] <qbe> guiden: i can read that letters
[10:25] <guiden> is this an "A" with two dots on top of it,
[10:25] <spitwise> ja
[10:25] <guiden>
[10:25] <guiden> ok
[10:26] <fdoving> guiden: yes, you use the wrong charset, you use some type of iso, change to utf8.
[10:26] <qbe> it's about utf-8 setup, i guess
[10:26] <william_> fdoving: yes as root I cam write on it
[10:26] <guiden> where do I change it?
[10:26] <fdoving> william_: then make a directory. as root. chown to your user, and write as your user.
[10:27] <Cobra_Bubbles> How do I shot web?
[10:27] <fdoving> guiden: in the identities settings. look for 'encoding'
[10:27] <william_> fdoving: sorry for asking that stupid question but how - I really have problems when it comes to userrights
[10:27] <fdoving> guiden: it's under the advanced tab.
[10:28] <william_> fdoving: I'm working with linux since las week wednesday
[10:28] <fdoving> william_: ok, in a terminal first go to the new disk. 'cd /where/you/mounted/it'
[10:28] <william_> fdoving: nvidia card is running sound is ok now and as soon as the hd is accessible WINDOOF is historie
[10:29] <embrik> fdoving: thanks, what about java framework. I need it to get video and audio working in oo
[10:29] <fdoving> william_: ok, tell me when you've navigated to the directory you munted the disk to.
[10:29] <fdoving> !java | embrik
[10:29] <ubotu> embrik: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:30] <fdoving> embrik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java got info on the SDK too.
[10:31] <william_> fdoving: done
[10:31] <fdoving> william_: 'sudo mkdir william' to make a directory named william.
[10:31] <Cobra_Bubbles> Growl
[10:31] <Cobra_Bubbles> okies
[10:31] <guiden> how about now. an "A" with two dots on top of it?
[10:31] <qbe> yup
[10:32] <william_> fdoving: ok done I've created files as sudo
[10:32] <guiden> ok good
[10:32] <Cobra_Bubbles> I'm on a LIVE CD and needing to access my hard drive to save some files
[10:32] <Cobra_Bubbles> Not good
[10:32] <fdoving> william_: then you want to change the ownership to william. 'sudo chown william.william william'
[10:33] <lovloss> I need to install kubuntu on a new computer with a SATA drive, do i need a different edition?
[10:33] <fdoving> william_: that command changes the ownership to william(user).william(group) on william(folder)
[10:33] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: no
[10:34] <fdoving> william_: now your user william can save files to that directory.
[10:34] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: Well it doesnt seem to recognize the existance of it
[10:34] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: kubuntu edgy installed on my system using only SATA drives just fine
[10:34] <william_> fdoving: ok so far so good - done
[10:34] <tanubis> anyone know how I'd go about installing a nexxtech USB VGA webcam?
[10:34] <william_> fdoving: how can i check wether it worked?
[10:34] <qbe> tanubis
[10:35] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: i guess its possible your controller isnt supported, have you searched the forums?
[10:35] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: my controller?
[10:35] <qbe> tanubis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[10:35] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: the SATA controller
[10:35] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: wassat
[10:35] <fdoving> william_: try to save something to that disk as your user? a textfile or something.
[10:35] <duane_> tan have u plugged it in
[10:35] <fdoving> william_: open konqueror and copy something.
[10:35] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: i dont even know wher eto find it in my bios :<
[10:36] <william_> fdoving: great it worked
[10:36] <william_> fdoving: and now to the mounting part
[10:36] <fdoving> william_: it is mounted, isn't it?
[10:36] <william_> fdoving: not so far
[10:37] <fdoving> william_: it must be, because unless it is, all this has been done on your first disk.
[10:37] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: is your motherboard fairly new?
[10:37] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: yes, it has dual channel memory
[10:37] <fdoving> william_: brb. kid -> bed.
[10:37] <william_> fdoving: stupid me
[10:38] <austrojedi> how can i watch quicktime-ads in firefox? (i.e. the get-a-mac-ads on www.apple.com)
[10:38] <william_> fdoving: give me a min sorry :-))
[10:38] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: mine is over a year old and uses dual channel, but still it is known that some new SATA chipsets arent supported in the Dapper/Edgy kernels
[10:38] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: you could try installing Feisty, but its in testing still
[10:38] <lovloss> seriously!?
[10:39] <rambo> hey
[10:39] <lovloss> i know... i intend to get it in april
[10:39] <rambo> why doesn't "alsaconf" work?
[10:39] <embrik> fdoving: thanks again. Last question from me tonigh ( I think) what do I write to install mplayerplug-in for firefox 1.5
[10:39] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: Though its suspicious to me that i cant find it in the bios
[10:39] <rambo> it worked in suse, now in kubuntu doesn't
[10:40] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: it should be in there, what motherboard do you have?
[10:40] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: its not with me, let me look it up
[10:40] <embrik> embrik: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[10:42] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: here is some technical info for SATA in linux, it may help http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[10:42] <duane_> sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer didnt work
[10:42] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: almost there... tigerdirect is being slow
[10:43] <c0nv1ct> i guess i got lucky with my SATA chipset, i didnt have any problems
[10:44] <william_> fdoving: fantastic it worked
[10:44] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: yeesh im comcast too
[10:45] <william_> fdoving: it's going to be a long nioght but by noon windoof is history
[10:45] <AxlRose> I feel like an idiot asking this....but how do you get a recycle bin on the desktop instead of the tray
[10:45] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: Mach Speed MSNV-939 Socket 939 Motherboard
[10:45] <william_> fdoving: Thank you ver much for your help
[10:45] <lovloss> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Sku=M450-2402
[10:46] <lovloss> 'twas bittorent which slowed the internets
[10:47] <AxlRose> anyone know how to get a recycle bin on the desktop instead of the tray
[10:49] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: did you see the mobo? any ideas?
[10:49] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: i'm reading the info on it, but i dont see that chipset in the list of SATA info
[10:49] <jose__> alguien que me pase el enlace espaol
[10:50] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: it says its the nForce 4 NF4-A9 A chipset, i dont see it on that SATA page :\
[10:50] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: I dont know about chipset, it just has slots for SATA drives
[10:50] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: See them down at the righthand corner?
[10:51] <embrik> need help to install flashplayer too
[10:51] <jose__> me too
[10:52] <embrik> hm.. earlier I just installed it from within fireox when asked. Didn't work now
[10:52] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: yeah, its not in the list of supported chipsets :(
[10:52] <embrik> !flashplayer
[10:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:52] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: Oh great....
[10:53] <voidmage> Anyone know how I can have knetworkmanager run a certain script upon connecting to a specific network?
[10:53] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: well can i install on an IDE drive thenm
[10:53] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: it looks like a SATA 1.5 chipset, and the only nForce 4 chipsets i see are for SATA 2
[10:53] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: or SATA 3 i mean
[10:54] <rein> hello
[10:54] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: any suggestions?
[10:54] <embrik> exit
[10:54] <rein> i just formatted my harddrive and im on live CD
[10:54] <rein> what's the size of a swap?
[10:54] <lovloss> rein : 1.5 x your memory
[10:54] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: contacting MSP for support might be your only hope
[10:54] <rambo> how can i tell alsamixer that i have also analog rear right and left? it has the correct card
[10:55] <rein> lovloss: ok
[10:55] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: alrighjt, thank you
[10:55] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: either that or replacing the motherboard, lol
[10:55] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: i just bought it
[10:55] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: it appears to be a limitation in the kernel, so its not kubuntu related, its linux related
[10:55] <fdoving> AxlRose: do you have a ~/Desktop/trash.desktop file?
[10:56] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: Will feisty's kernel handle it you think?
[10:56] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: its possible, it uses a much newer kernel, its worth a try
[10:56] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: Ok.
[10:56] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: i run feisty on my laptop, and its stable so far, being a testing release
[10:56] <AxlRose> fdoving: no
[10:56] <TheStef> Installed Feisty today, runs out of the box
[10:57] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: So ive heard. i wish it would come out soon, im eager to use it
[10:57] <duane_> thanks for the info in regards to the browsers ubotu
[10:57] <rambo> d0h, it says here analog front, rear and side
[10:57] <TheStef> The MP3, divx even works
[10:57] <c0nv1ct> TheStef: does it support any newer SATA1.5 chipsets?
[10:57] <rambo> :/
[10:57] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: but if you run a test version dont you have to completely reinstall later?
[10:58] <c0nv1ct> lovloss: not necessarily, you can always make your /home a separate partition and make reinstalling really easy
[10:58] <fdoving> AxlRose: you can follow http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/09/24/how-to-add-the-trash-can-to-your-kubuntu-desktop/
[10:58] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: I have a 250 gig external hd anyway
[10:58] <AxlRose> fdoving: thank you
[10:59] <teufel> i need some help
[10:59] <lovloss> c0nv1ct: i need to check and make sure the install disk wasnt the problem. It wouldnt load up the gui to begin with
[11:00] <teufel> is there anybody here who knows their way around kubuntu enough to help me mount a drive so that i can edit my mbr or copy files from that drive
[11:00] <jose__> alguien que me pase ppor favor un enlace del chat en espaol
[11:00] <lovloss> isnt mbr on its own secret partition?
[11:00] <teufel> is it
[11:00] <teufel> i dont know that much about it
[11:00] <lovloss> i think so
[11:01] <teufel> but i know it isnt working
[11:01] <lovloss> im not sure beyond that
[11:01] <morvok> mbr is written on the first little bit of hda1
[11:01] <teufel> xp-master hd0     kubuntu-slave hd1
[11:02] <teufel> yeah xp hda1
[11:02] <teufel> how to manually change or delete the part the grub messed up
[11:02] <joha> Hi, I wondered if I can use an ADBLOCK plus like extension in konqueror. Has anybody an idea if theres a way?
[11:02] <teufel> xp disc repair is not working
[11:02] <morvok> teufel: hold on a sec
[11:02] <teufel> ok
[11:02] <TheGateKeeper> !grub
[11:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:02] <c0nv1ct> joha: there is an adblock type thing already in konqueror
[11:03] <c0nv1ct> joha: in konqueror, go to Settings - Configure Konqueror
[11:03] <jose__> grub error
[11:03] <rein> need help in qtparted. I created ext3 but how do i label it as /boot ???
[11:04] <c0nv1ct> rein: you have to mount it there
[11:04] <rein> ok
[11:04] <joha> c0nv1ct: hehe thanks ;)
[11:04] <rein> guess i have to restart thanks btw
[11:05] <jose__> somebody that speaks Spanish
[11:05] <c0nv1ct> joha: np, i didnt know it was there either untill i was messn around in the settings :P
[11:06] <fdoving> !es | jose__
[11:06] <ubotu> jose__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:06] <guiden> do you see an a with two dots over it?
[11:06] <austrojedi> guiden: yes
[11:10] <aj_> is the alpha still really buggy?
[11:10] <Roey> hi
[11:10] <Roey> is Feisty Fawn as fast-moving a target as Debian SID?
[11:11] <coreymon77> victory!!!
[11:11] <coreymon77> after lots of searching
[11:11] <coreymon77> and countless errors
[11:11] <coreymon77> and almost screwing up my cd drive so much that i couldnt even use it anymore
[11:11] <coreymon77> i have finally found a way to get it to read dvd+r media
[11:11] <silveira> Hi people
[11:11] <coreymon77> is kubuntu too!
[11:12] <teufel> i need some help with a boot and mounting issue
[11:12] <teufel> anyone care to help me with that
[11:12] <coreymon77> teufel: whats the matter?
[11:13] <teufel> im new to kubuntu and i dont know how to mount my master harddrive which has xp loaded on it
[11:13] <voidmage> teufel: It might be already mounted
[11:13] <voidmage> teufel: check in /media
[11:13] <coreymon77> teufel: ntfs
[11:13] <coreymon77> ?
[11:14] <teufel> i tried to reinstall windows after i had installed kubuntu before i knew it would mess things up
[11:14] <teufel> yea
[11:14] <teufel> its not there
[11:14] <voidmage> hmm
[11:14] <coreymon77> teufel: dont bother
[11:14] <coreymon77> teufel: ntfs is too much of a pain
[11:14] <voidmage> !ntfs
[11:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:14] <voidmage> !ntfs-3g
[11:14] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:14] <coreymon77> teufel: my suggestion
[11:14] <teufel> ntfs
[11:14] <voidmage> If you're interested, look at those links
[11:14] <voidmage> But again, your cal
[11:14] <voidmage> l
[11:15] <coreymon77> teufel: how many hard drives do you have?
[11:15] <teufel> 2 internal 1 external
[11:15] <teufel> xp-master kubuntu-slave
[11:15] <teufel> yeah ill check those links out
[11:16] <coreymon77> teufel: my suggestion is to cut off a bit of space from one of the hard drives, format that space as fat32 and use it as a shared storage drive
[11:16] <fairman_> Hi, i need help with KMail. When i am writing messages it break lines in 78 columns, when i unset the "break lines after ..." KMail will never break ... i need to break lines when i reach end of window
[11:16] <coreymon77> teufel: and anything you want to share between the 2 oses would be put there
[11:17] <teufel> well my master is 200 gig and my slave is only 20
[11:17] <coreymon77> teufel: because ntfs in linux is in myopinion too much of a pain and too dangerous to the data on the ntfs drive
[11:17] <coreymon77> teufel: well then partition a few gigs off of the 200 drive
[11:18] <teufel> what i need to do is find a way to fix the boot record of the master
[11:18] <teufel> is there anyway to do that
[11:18] <teufel> i have tried fixmbr bootcfg and fixboot on the xp cd
[11:19] <coreymon77> teufel: oh, you mean you reinstalled windows and now you cant boot into linux right?
[11:19] <teufel> im in kubuntu
[11:19] <coreymon77> teufel: so whats the matter?
[11:19] <teufel> but i cannot reinstall windows
[11:19] <nagyv> hello! I wanted to try out Gnome, but now would like to delete the packages installed with it. I have a list of the installed packages (~300), how can I easily remove them?
[11:19] <coreymon77> teufel: why would you want to? :P
[11:19] <teufel> gams
[11:19] <teufel> games
[11:20] <coreymon77> i guess
[11:20] <teufel> reason cubase
[11:20] <coreymon77> and what do you mean you cant reinstall
[11:20] <teufel> just stuff i use windows for
[11:20] <coreymon77> just put the install cd in and reinstall
[11:20] <coreymon77> but after reinstall, you will have to do some stuff before bneing able to access kubuntu again
[11:20] <teufel> i can delete the windows folder for a new install but after it copies the files and reboots it hangs
[11:21] <Sanne> nagyv: there might be a way to automate it with a script, but what I would do is, look for the libs and remove those, because lots of apps will get removed with them because they depend on them.
[11:21] <teufel> yeah this is a fresh load of kubuntu i can reinstall noprob
[11:21] <kristian> Could somebody help me out a bit with a bootloader/formatting problem?
[11:21] <coreymon77> teufel: well this is the wrong cahnnel to be asking about that, windoze problems are for the ##windows channel
[11:21] <coreymon77> kristian: what??
[11:21] <teufel> well i am in kubuntu
[11:21] <nagyv> Sanne: I tried it, but I use a couple of gtk based apps, and do not want to remove those.
[11:21] <teufel> and i cant find my harddrives
[11:21] <kristian> It's my brother - he gets a grub error 21...
[11:21] <coreymon77> !ask | kristian
[11:21] <ubotu> kristian: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:22] <kristian> ok :)
[11:22] <SSJ_GZ> nagyv: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[11:22] <teufel> it mounts my external on the desktop
[11:22] <voidmage> coreymon77: can i ask you if i can ask a question?
[11:22] <voidmage> ;P
[11:22] <coreymon77> voidmage: whats the matter
[11:22] <teufel> but i cannot find my d:\ in kubuntu
[11:22] <kristian> The solutions I've found online all use a liveCD as rescue cd, but he hasn't got one...
[11:22] <voidmage> teufel: i'd also check in /etc/fstab
[11:22] <coreymon77> kristian: download one
[11:23] <coreymon77> kristian: download and burn one
[11:23] <voidmage> teufel: see if there's an entry there
[11:23] <Gh0st75> still can't get my ipod working, took it work and got it formatted to vfat instead of hfs+ by loading itunes on a workstation with XP, still can't use it to play songs tho
[11:23] <kristian> Eh... that wouldn't solve anything... we live some 250km apart...
[11:23] <teufel> ok hold up
[11:23] <Gh0st75> looks like songs were loaded with gtkpod, but i can't find anything from the ipod menu
[11:23] <Sanne> nagyv: outch! Ok, then you either need to make a command like: apt-get remove package_1 packge_2 ... package_n, or look into bash scripting a bit how to pull those package names out of your list and do it automatically.
[11:23] <kristian> He has a rather slow connection, so downloading one would take im some 7-8 hours - is there any alternative to this?
[11:24] <teufel> just open a terminal and type in /ect/fstab
[11:24] <coreymon77> kristian: you can order one for free
[11:24] <coreymon77> kristian: but that will take a few weeks
[11:24] <teufel> is that what your saying hahaha im new to kubuntu
[11:24] <nagyv> Sanne: did you checked what SSJ_GZ sent? very, khmm, impressive :)
[11:24] <kristian> Yes, I know
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> teufel, cat /etc/fstab
[11:25] <teufel> thanks
[11:25] <Sanne> nagyv: oh, nice, all done for you :). But beware of removing the libs you need.
[11:25] <coreymon77> kristian: i dont know
[11:25] <coreymon77> kristian: seems to me that you need a livecd
[11:26] <kristian> Hm... I'll tell him that then...
[11:26] <teufel> i dont see it
[11:26] <coreymon77> kristian: sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do
[11:26] <kristian> OK - thanks for your time guys!
[11:26] <Sanne> nagyv: in any case, you can sikulate the remove command so you can check nothing gets removed that you want to keep.
[11:26] <xbesnard> Hello. Need for help. I bought a DVD card LEADTEK DTV2000H to run under KUBUNTU <IP_ADDRESS>. With Modeprob, all the modules look to be present. But the card is not recognized. Question: is it necessary to rebuild the kernel 2-6-15-26.386? Thanks.
[11:26] <Sanne> nagyv: simulate, even
[11:26] <teufel> there well yeah its hdb1
[11:26] <voidmage> xbesnard: Is it possible for you to upgrade to edgy?
[11:27] <Sanne> nagyv: you di it like: apt-get -s remove...
[11:27] <voidmage> xbesnard: perhaps the new kernel would support it better?
[11:27] <nagyv> Sanne: thx
[11:27] <Sanne> nagyv: you're welcome
[11:28] <xbesnard> With an upgrade to Edgy, my dialup modem will be no more supported by the open source conexant driver with 2-6-17 kernel. It tried.
[11:28] <voidmage> xbesnard: know anything about your modem in 2.6.20?
[11:28] <voidmage> xbesnard: because if it would work in there i might recommend trying feisty
[11:28] <teufel> can somebody pm me to help with kubuntu
[11:29] <xbesnard> Feisty, why not but later.
[11:30] <voidmage> xbesnard: if anything you can find about 2.6.20 points to all your hardware working correctly i'd probably try feisty, it goes into beta next week
[11:30] <tuna_> hello
[11:30] <TheGateKeeper> teufel, you are better off staying in the main channel, that way other people can chip into helping
[11:31] <tuna_> I was just using the apt-get command to install Overkill, and suddenly, it told me this:
[11:32] <tuna_> http://rafb.net/p/wrAPNj64.html
[11:32] <tuna_> i guess it wants to uninstall gnome
[11:32] <nagyv> could someone give me a script that puts in a line break at every space (actually changes the space to a line break)? I can not find out how to put a regular expression \n in the replace.
[11:32] <tuna_> you see, I run Xfce, Gnome, and KDE on this comp
[11:32] <userund> tuna_, did you uninstall ubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[11:32] <tuna_> no
[11:32] <mcscruff> i need to compile something for a diff arch and need to use a diff gcc, how do i set that as my path for make?
[11:33] <teufel> i am new
[11:33] <teufel> i cant view my harddrive with kubuntu loaded on it
[11:33] <teufel> its nowhere to be found
[11:33] <nagyv> teufel: did you tried konqueror?
[11:33] <teufel> yeah
[11:34] <voidmage> teufel: can you paste the output of 'mount' to a pastebin?
[11:34] <maurice> bjr
[11:34] <teufel> just finds the floppy
[11:34] <tuna_> userund  no, i didn't uninstall anything :/
[11:34] <teufel> and cdrom
[11:34] <nagyv> teufel: what you mean harddrive? an external usb stick, pendrive or a CD?
[11:34] <nagyv> teufel: and what would you like to find?
[11:34] <teufel> it finds my external when i turn it on
[11:34] <userund> tuna_, well, I don't know what's wrong, but it isn't forcing you to remove them right now so you should be fine to install that program
[11:34] <voidmage> nagyv: his windows drives weren't detected and mounted by the installer
[11:35] <teufel> kubuntu is loaded on d:\ or hdb1 how do i explore it with konqeror
[11:35] <voidmage> teufel: first i'd check in /media/hdb1
[11:35] <voidmage> see if anything comes up there
[11:35] <teufel> not there
[11:35] <voidmage> alright
[11:35] <fernando> exist any equivalent to movie maker for linux???
[11:36] <voidmage> teufel: add this line to your /etc/fstab
[11:36] <tuna_> userund but can i stop it from saying that? because it's kind of annoying...
[11:36] <tuna_> i don't wanna see it every time I use apt-get
[11:36] <voidmage> teufel: actually i'm not sure what to add
[11:36] <joha> i am sorry to bother you if this question. What name has the KDE-tool with which you can sort your Desktop Windows. You type on your Keyboard and every Desk is shown ?
[11:36] <teufel> haha i hear ya
[11:36] <tuna_> and if i use adept, then won't it automatically uninstall all those packages?
[11:36] <nagyv> voidmage: he can use also the gui with the system preferences, I think
[11:36] <teufel> what
[11:37] <voidmage> nagyv: i'll see if i can find anything there
[11:37] <fernando> movie maker for linux????
[11:37] <nagyv> voidmage: under the Special page, Disk&Partitions. I have never used them, but it would be logical.
[11:37] <voidmage> nagyv: i've never used that either
[11:37] <voidmage> nagyv: but it isn't looking right
[11:39] <Sanne> fernando: please keep in mind that not everybody knows what movie maker does.
[11:39] <userund> tuna_, no, it shouldn't, but I don't know how to fix it.
[11:39] <tuna_> oh.
[11:40] <tuna_> you think it'll go away with time?
[11:40] <voidmage> fernando: tried kino?
[11:41] <Naverone> hey?
[11:41] <Naverone> hello?
[11:41] <CrypTom> hi, I've just installed edgy on my laptop, started digikam, added my canon 300D with the "add camera" dialog, but I get a "Failed to connect to the camera. [...] " when I try to connect to the camera.
[11:42] <CrypTom>  is there anything that needs to be done before being able to access the digital camera? (user, groups, permissions?)
[11:42] <rein> hi, i can't reformat my drive i recieve mkfs problem?
[11:42] <Naverone> right, is there anyone here who knows this stuff, cos im stuck too...
[11:43] <fernando> Sanne: movie maker let you create videos, form you videocamera...
[11:43] <tuna_> userund are you there?
[11:43] <fernando> Sanne: using fireware connections..
[11:43] <userund> tuna_, no, it probably won't go away in time.  look on the forums for similar problems.
[11:43] <fernando> Sanne: is a default program on windows...
[11:43] <tuna_> userund ok, thank you
[11:44] <Sanne> fernando: thanks for clarification :). Personally I don't know which program would do that, but voidmage suggested the program kino.
[11:44] <TheGateKeeper> rein, have you tried something like the gparted live cd
[11:45] <Naverone> i cant get acces to my windows side from kubuntu, im a noob. please help?
[11:45] <TheGateKeeper> !ntfs
[11:45] <rein> no, i am using the kubuntu live cd
[11:45] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:45] <Naverone> thanks
[11:45] <Naverone> ill take a look now
[11:45] <Sanne> CrypTom: I just found this link yesterday for my husband, might help you also: http://www.teaser.fr/~hfiguiere/linux/digicam.html
[11:46] <rein> ok i'll be back later
[11:47] <CrypTom> Sanne: thanks, I'll have a look
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> dapper repo for ntfs-3g --> deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ dapper main
[11:48] <Sanne> CrypTom: you're welcome
[11:52] <crimsun> nice, a pharmacy computer
[11:54] <space_ninja> Why hasn't kubunut inlncluded any direct connect client?
[11:54] <space_ninja> included
[11:55] <tere454> Hi, i am asking my question from before again. Maybe someone has an idea how the program is named which displays all open windows in kde on your desk and you can simply click on these pictures to get the program up and use it ?
[11:56] <space_ninja> tere454, do you mean a program in the menu?
[11:56] <duane> hello
[11:57] <tere454> yes in the taskbar. and there is a keyboard shortcut too
[11:57] <tere454> space_ninja: you tap a keay and everything is sorted and shown like " playing cards"
[11:58] <space_ninja> klick on the left mouse button on the panel, click unlock, then click again on the menu, and click on add applet to panel
[11:58] <space_ninja> then
[11:58] <space_ninja> then add windows list button
[11:58] <space_ninja> right
[11:58] <space_ninja> I mean right button
[11:59] <space_ninja> then when you are finished, you can lock the panel again
[11:59] <fernando> someone has problem with the volume keys of the keyboard??? kubuntu 6.10
[11:59] <space_ninja> oh I forgot
[11:59] <space_ninja> or maybe not
[12:00] <space_ninja> tera454, was it that program you where seeking?
[12:00] <thomax> tere454: shortkey = alt + tab
[12:01] <tere454> space_ninja: ;) no  the program i meant had to be installed besides the standard kde installation
[12:01] <tere454> space_ninja: it was an "open-programs-organizer" . sadly i do not remember its name
[12:01] <tere454> started with k... :)
[12:01] <space_ninja> hehe ok :)
[12:01] <space_ninja> I don't know then
[12:02] <space_ninja> they always do :D
[12:02] <thomax> tere454: check kde-apps.org
[12:02] <tere454> i am checking since half an hour. i will find this damn little program and report back ;)
[12:06] <fernando> someone here with kubuntu 6.10???
[12:06] <crimsun> win 28
[12:06] <crimsun> err
[12:06] <intelikey> educate me.  for a non-networking box  why would i want ssh-agent to run ?
[12:06] <duane> I was wondering if there is any way to have the Kubuntu system boot up and automaticly load the Wireless assistant software as well as were do I need to put the modprobe ndiswrapper command to load on startup
[12:09] <intelikey> nobody ?
[12:09] <nosrednaekim> intelikey... could you repeat your problem?
[12:09] <duane> intelkey are u going to have that on the network
[12:09] <intelikey> duane the box won't do or allow any "remote" logins
[12:10] <coreymon77> duane: for one thing, you are certain you need to use ndis?
[12:10] <intelikey> so is ssh-agent useful locally ?
[12:10] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: please repeat your problem for me?
[12:10] <intelikey> nosrednaekim educate me.  for a non-networking box  why would i want ssh-agent to run ?
[12:10] <duane> yea i need to turn on the caard after the PC boots
[12:11] <intelikey> if you want to call it a problem nosrednaekim
[12:11] <coreymon77> duane: what is the card?
[12:11] <duane> linksys somthing
[12:11] <coreymon77> duane: linksys what
[12:11] <coreymon77> duane: specifics
[12:11] <duane> hang on
[12:11] <coreymon77> duane: and is it a wireless card?
[12:12] <duane> wpc54gx
[12:12] <duane> it is
[12:12] <coreymon77> duane: okay, wait a sec
[12:12] <duane> thanks man
[12:12] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: don't worry about ssh agent, no body can get in with sshagent, you can only get out..