[19:53] <ActionParsnip> !boot
[19:54] <god-workbench> that doesn't pertain to rc.d services ActionParsnip
[19:54] <theadmin> god-workbench: update-rc.d and rcconf both are great tools for configuring boot process (first one is CLI, second one is ncurses)
[19:54] <god-workbench> err
[19:54] <god-workbench> upstart services*
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> god-workbench: worth a crack
[19:54] <god-workbench> ActionParsnip, done tried that crack ;)
[19:55] <god-workbench> theadmin, i've not found anything effective at disabling services that are upstart jobs using traditional rc.d service configurations
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> god-workbench: http://nixcraft.com/shell-scripting/542-ubuntu-linux-control-startup-services-scripts.html  may help
[19:55] <theadmin> god-workbench: "update-rc.d" and "rcconf" are programs. apt-get install them if they aren't and run them as root
[19:55] <Jeos> hello
[19:55] <god-workbench> i've tried all those tools and it just doesn't work. it tells you they are disabled. but they still start each time with upstart
[19:55] <theadmin> god-workbench: Oh, okay. Odd.
[19:55] <bobo37774> Jeos: Hello
[19:55] <god-workbench> i'd like to just find a way to replace upstart completely if it isn't too difficult
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> god-workbench: http://superuser.com/questions/266040/how-do-you-disable-an-upstart-service-in-ubuntu-10-10
[19:56] <god-workbench> ActionParsnip, if that is referring to manually editing the upstart .conf files to comment out the start on line
[19:56] <Jeos> I recently installed xubuntu, and the monitor was working great at 1280x1024. Today I turned my pc on and the only options available are 640x480 or 320x240. How can I fix this?
[19:57] <god-workbench> then i have already done that. i can do that myself, it just is tedious
[19:57] <trism> god-workbench: http://upstart.at/2011/03/11/override-files-in-ubuntu-natty/ is currently the best method I believe until we get some scripts to automate it
[19:57] <bobo37774> Jeos: Nvidia or ATI ?
[19:57] <Jeos> nvidia
[19:57] <trism> god-workbench: assuming you are using 11.04 or greater
[19:57] <asaint> hello guys how do i restore my desktop left bar and icons i was playing with compiz fusion and now everything is gone .... left with the up title bar that have the file edit etc.....
[19:57] <god-workbench> trism, so nobody has really worked on a script that will run sed to comment out the run for the service.conf you are trying to disable
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> Jeos: which nvidia chip?
[19:57] <bobo37774> Jeos: Did you try using nvidia-settings?
[19:57] <god-workbench> or uncomment it accordingly?
[19:58] <paulus68> theadmin: manually launched it's working however not through crontab
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> Jeos: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc    please
[19:58] <trism> god-workbench: override files don't modify the .conf
[19:58] <theadmin> god-workbench: Disabling a bunch of services with upstart is as easy as: for i in crond gdm loldaemon ; do mv /etc/init/$i.conf /etc/init/$i.conf.DISABLED
[19:58] <god-workbench> trism, such a tool shouldn't be much more than a few lines of bash code. i just haven't took the time to write a script myself
[19:58] <theadmin> god-workbench: Reenabling them is just as simple as the reverse of that
[19:58] <AntonioBlob> what is the list of exams to get a bachelor degree in computer science at MIT??
[19:58] <trism> theadmin: that isn't really the nicest way since you can't start them manually later
[19:59] <theadmin> trism: True, but works
[19:59] <god-workbench> theadmin, yea i can do all that, but i was just wondering if there wasn't a tool similar to bum or rc-config that done it
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> AntonioBlob: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[19:59] <trism> theadmin: but so does: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/servicename.override;
[19:59] <WordpressNoob> when ubuntu goes to install, the logo and dots show up then nothing appears on screen
[19:59] <WordpressNoob> the monitor goes into standby
[19:59] <WordpressNoob> any idea?
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> WordpressNoob: what GPU do you use?
[19:59] <theadmin> trism: Ooh, neat
[19:59] <theadmin> god-workbench: Write one :P
[19:59] <asaint> hello guys how do i restore my desktop left bar and icons i was playing with compiz fusion and now everything is gone .... left with the up title bar that have the file edit etc.....
[19:59] <god-workbench> may i ask what the point of replacing the standard init style scripts with upstart was?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> asaint: http://askubuntu.com/questions/70572/reset-unity-and-gnome-to-default-values
[20:00] <god-workbench> i mean what is the key benefits?
[20:00] <xangua> asaint: tried to reset unity¿ : unity --reset
[20:00] <WordpressNoob> ActionParsnip
[20:00] <WordpressNoob> Embedded ATI ES1000 with 16MB memor
[20:00] <Jeos> Hmm opening the nvidia x-server settings shows this: "Unable to load x server display configuration page: failed to query NoScanout for screen 0"
[20:00] <h00k> asaint: try using alt+f2 and typing 'unity --reset'
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> WordpressNoob: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[20:00] <WordpressNoob> ActionParsnip i've installed it before and it worked but i messed up something and want to start over
[20:01] <WordpressNoob> where would i do that? after the initial boot from usb?
[20:01] <asaint> yeah it works thanks guys
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | WordpressNoob
[20:01] <god-workbench> theadmin:: trism::  i have a very minimal install that i only use a browser on this system. similar to a chrome-OS. except it is linux. consists of openbox, and only a autostart for chrome.  so any dependencies for X or the minimal cd that got auto installed are all still services
[20:02] <god-workbench> i only have 512mb ram with the system and its a p4 2.4ghz. so i just want to use it as a web terminal basically
[20:02] <Rafig> Hi all!!!
[20:02] <shal3r_> Where can i get default ubuntu-oneiric kernel config?
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> god-workbench: I'd suggest you use xpud then ;) it boots in seconds and will give a browser
[20:03] <god-workbench> but i have quiet a few services that get started that i don't desire. and i can manually turn them off. i just don't like the way upstart has no good way to disable/enable services at boot temporarily or permanently
[20:03] <aeon-ltd> god-workbench: shameless plug - try arch?
[20:03] <god-workbench> ActionParsnip, "a browser" isn't chrome
[20:03] <mega1> other than zimbra is there any other program that would do it
[20:03] <Rafig> At what email address to write a complaint to Canonical?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> god-workbench: it has firefox by default, but you can add chromium if you want
[20:03] <god-workbench> aeon-ltd, doesn't arch have some weird new rc replacement too?
[20:04] <Rafig> PLease help?
[20:04] <Jeos> ActionParsnip:  the output of lsb_release -sc  is oneiric
[20:04] <god-workbench> ActionParsnip, is xpud a distro or something for ubuntu?
[20:04] <Rafig> email adress?
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> god-workbench: no its completely separate but you can use ubuntu debs to make the packages for it
[20:04] <h00k> Rafig: you could file a bug on Launchpad
[20:04] <Rafig> :(
[20:04] <Rafig> no
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> Rafig: try a FULL question rather that 2 meaningless words
[20:05] <Rafig> I want to report abuse
[20:05] <Myrtti> Rafig: where/by whom?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Rafig: here on irc?
[20:05] <lakom> how do can I clone a screen using the native resolutions of the monitors and using the full screensize?
[20:05] <god-workbench> ActionParsnip, i don't really see the point in changing anything, the only thing i dont like about this really is the upstart/plymouth stuff. i mean  for an old machine and for compatibility reasons is why i chose the ubuntu minimal cd
[20:05] <paulus68> theadmin: manually launched it's working however not through crontab
[20:05] <aeon-ltd> god-workbench: services are managed here under daemons https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Rc.conf#Daemons
[20:05] <Rafig> by moderators in my community
[20:06] <theadmin> aeon-ltd: That's in Arch, not Ubuntu...
[20:06] <theadmin> aeon-ltd: Yeah, in Arch it's very simple
[20:06] <bazhang> aeon-ltd, dont recommend arch here thanks
[20:06] <aeon-ltd> ok
[20:06] <h00k> Rafig: a Local Community?
[20:06] <god-workbench> i could use arch, but i just don't really like arch builds and pacman
[20:06] <Rafig> yes
[20:06] <danova> On latest 3.0.15 kernel update my dell latitude  E6410 is not detected anymore (unknown screen). Can anybody point to an answer. Intel chipset.
[20:06] <god-workbench> sadly most things are written with ubuntu in mind.
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Rafig: i'd go to #ubuntu-ops
[20:06] <theadmin> god-workbench: Easy to get used to, and AUR has everything, but let's stay on topic, shall we?
[20:07] <god-workbench> so like i said i went with ubuntu mini, just to keep compatibility and have a wide selection of binary packages for this old machine
[20:07] <Rafig> its what?
[20:07] <h00k> Rafig: that wouldn't go to Canonical, rather perhaps you could head to #ubuntu-locoteams to discuss it
[20:07] <god-workbench> theadmin, im trying to stay on topic.
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> god-workbench: makes sense
[20:07] <buhdabot> they have to rework everything to make sure it works for ubuntu- not the other way around
[20:07] <shal3r_> Where can i get default ubuntu-oneiric kernel config? I want to try ubuntu kernel on non-ubuntu system
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> god-workbench: most things are written with linux in mind ;)
[20:07] <buhdabot> it all works for debian is what it works for
[20:08] <theadmin> shal3r_: sudo apt-get source linux
[20:08] <danova> On latest 3.0.15 kernel update my dell latitude  screen is not detected anymore (unknown screen). Can anybody point to an answer.
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> Jeos: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> danova: which GPU?
[20:09] <bobo37774> I wish ubuntu had pacman
[20:09] <god-workbench> ActionParsnip: thats really not true.. look at most static binary pkgs in taballs, for instance skype.. the libraries that are used for most things are precompiled on ubuntu, making  you have to do nasty things in /usr/lib to get pkgs to work
[20:09] <Rafig> ubuntu-ops or ubuntu-locoteams?
[20:09] <danova> Intel chipset
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> danova: try the boot option: nomodeset
[20:09] <buhdabot> and yeah it alll works for linux- almost al prop programs are bastardized open source ones it seems
[20:09] <mega1> what can i use for shared contacts on ubuntu server 11.10
[20:09] <danova> ok i give it a try and come back in a few miinutes
[20:10] <paulus68> is there a way that you can test if cronjobs are working correctly?
[20:10] <Jeos> ActionParsnip: How do I try that boot option?
[20:10] <em> I am running Lucid and everything was going splendidly. Then I did an aptitude full-upgrade, turned off the computer, and when i turned it back on, it gets to the splash screen, but then, when it would let you log in, the screen just goes black, no video.
[20:10] <em> are there any ideas for things i might try when i go to try fix it?
[20:11] <god-workbench> buhdabot, ubuntu was originally based on debian package management, at one point there releases had pretty good backwards compatibility in the testing/unstable branches, but these days thats not the case. ubuntu has pretty much turned to its own distro using its own packages. and there isn't much cross compatibility at all anymore
[20:11] <Rafig> There are me not answer!
[20:11] <Rafig> HELP PLEASE!
[20:11] <dagerik> I have a scripts which takes screenshot and uploads the png to an http server and provides an http link for it. How can I make ubuntu play a sound each time someone opens the picture?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | jeos
[20:12] <bobo37774> em: You could try a clen install instead. That is the only real thing I have ever heard reccomended as opposed to a distro upgrade
[20:12] <LjL> Rafig: this channel is for Ubuntu technical support, please have some patience in #ubuntu-locoteams and actually *state your issue* there
[20:12] <bobo37774> em: clean*
[20:12] <em> god-workbench: I don't think that's very accurate. Maybe not a lot of cross compatibility but most packages are still made by debian.
[20:12] <paulus68> is there a way that you can test if cronjobs are working correctly?
[20:12] <em> bobo37774: you mean the only way to fix it is to reinstall ubuntu?
[20:13] <LjL> em: start by booting in recovery mode and reading the logs
[20:13] <em> I'll try to get back here when i get to work where the machine is.
[20:13] <god-workbench> but anyway the only solution to having control of your upstart services is to either edit the .conf files. or to move them from the /etc/init directory? there isn't a simple tool to do something like: upstart-config remove atd default (to remove atd from the default runlevel)
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: cron the same command, just nearer to the current time
[20:14] <trism> god-workbench: no, I gave you a link earlier, but the basic idea is: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/servicename.override; will stop a service from starting at boot but still allow you to start it manually (if you are using ubuntu >= 11.04)
[20:14] <god-workbench> em most base packages may be made by debian, but when it comes to desktop packages and multimedia applications i'm almost certain that the ubuntu team packages those and patches those apart from debian
[20:15] <trism> god-workbench: you could always write a script to create and delete those .override files I suppose
[20:15] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: 2  * * * *       /root/hourly.sh  is the current line which should run every 2 mins however it's not doing anything :(
[20:15] <god-workbench> trism, something so simple, i don't see why nobody has done something like that already
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: is it cron'd as root? is the file marked as executable?
[20:15] <god-workbench> i could do that and try to contribute it i suppose
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: the file extension means nothing in Linux. Does the file have the top line:   #!/bin/bash
[20:16] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: the file is marked as executable I can run it manually by entering ./hourly.sh
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: did you run:  sudo crontab -e   to cron as root?
[20:16] <shal3r_> theadmin, i'm not om ubuntu for that :)
[20:16] <god-workbench> guess i may just do:  for i in /etc/init/*.conf; do echo manual |sudo tee /etc/init/$i.override;done and then manually remove the ones from the override that i know i need to keep
[20:17] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: yes I did
[20:17] <buhdabot> god-workbench, is that why debians flash package is 10kb and ubuntus is 60MB?
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: i'd add a line in the script to email root, or display a notification using wall or notify-osd if you have a desktop UI
[20:18] <god-workbench> buhdabot, i have no idea. like i said i haven't used ubuntu in a few years regularly, nor debian, but i have used them enough to see the differences in packages, and differences in cross-compatibility
[20:18] <Jeos> ActionParsnip: Booting with that option did not change anything. I think that the problem can be solved by just adding the 1280x1024 option to the settings->display menu
[20:18] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: this is the script http://paste.ubuntu.com/815733/
[20:18] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: how would I that?
[20:18] <god-workbench> quiet honestly ubuntu's rise in popularity and user base has made debian quiet unusable when it comes to using non-free .deb binaries you find online
[20:19] <god-workbench> although i try to avoid them. it is really just easier to use ubuntu for compatibility with virtually everything..
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: I'd add some sort of notification in the script, either visually or audibly
[20:21] <buhdabot> god-workbench i think onse you have the sytem using gdebi its about the same with package installs
[20:22] <danova> nomodset fixed the black screen on my dell latitute 6410 with kernel 3.0.15. However i cannot change the resolution it is fixed and screen show unknownn
[20:22] <bobo37774> What do you guys think is too big for a tv as a computer monitor? 40 42 46?
[20:23] <buhdabot> probably has to do with the size of the phophor emiiters
[20:23] <bazhang> bobo37774, thats not an ubuntu support issue
[20:23] <buhdabot> i would get something with that newr 1900 or whatever pixels but not so big that its messed up
[20:23] <bazhang> bobo37774, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[20:24] <bobo37774> ok
[20:24] <Jeos> xrandr returns: "Failed to get size of gamma for output default"
[20:25] <danova> nomodset fixed the black screen on my dell latitute 6410 with kernel 3.0.15. However i cannot change the resolution it is fixed and the screen is showns unknown when i run detect display
[20:25] <ViriisXP> salut à tous
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: add a call to mplayer to play a short sound file
[20:26] <LjL> !fr | ViriisXP
[20:26] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: I am on a serverr
[20:26] <ViriisXP> ok thx
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: if you have your sound hardware setup, you can use mplayer in CLI...
[20:27] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: ok
[20:28] <Promille> Somebody had any problems with the shortcut (alt+F2) dont work anymore, after upgrading to 11.10 from 11.04 ?
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Promille: does it happen for all users?
[20:28] <lakom> is it at all possible to clone to an external screen with a different resolution using all the workspace?
[20:29] <Promille> ActionParsnip: Only have one user.
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Promille: make a fresh user, your OS can hold literally billions of local users
[20:29] <Promille> Will do, see if it helps..
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Promille: I don't type that fast.I just pretyped it as it is a common reply..
[20:29] <pinportal> hello, i would like to know if ubuntu 12,04 will need to use terminal too?
[20:29] <Promille> ActionParsnip: ;)
[20:30] <Promille> pinportal: for what?
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Promille: did you really think a modern OS would only support one user..
[20:30] <pinportal> for everything
[20:30] <Promille> ActionParsnip: Ofcourse not, but I don't see why it would do any differance
[20:31] <Jeos> ActionParsnip: Disabling the nVidia restricted driver has allowed me to set the resolution to 1024x768, but not 1280x1024. The problem must be something related to that
[20:31] <Promille> pinportal: Will be an alternativ ofcourse, but not mandatory for most tasks. Something particular you have in mind?
[20:31] <pinportal> because i saw that this news version will not have terminal,
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Promille: the new user would get default settings, if it works there then your settings are at fault, if not then it is the application itself
[20:32] <Promille> ActionParsnip: I see. Is there any way to just set the settings to default on the current user?
[20:32] <trism> Promille: which desktop are you using? if gnome-shell or possible gnome fallback, check System Settings/Keyboard/Shortcuts/System to make sure the shortcut is enabled
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Promille: not sure there
[20:32] <Promille> trism: gnome fallback is correct
[20:33] <Promille> ActionParsnip: Thanks though
[20:33] <trism> Promille: yes so check there, it was disabled when I first installed oneiric for me
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Jeos: all I can recommend is make an xorg.conf file using: sudo nvidia-xconfig, then run: gksudo nvidia-settings   and set the resolution to something and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    to set the res you want
[20:33] <Promille> pinportal: Probably just a misunderstanding. A lot of people prefer to have a terminal rady, so it wont be completely removed at least.
[20:33] <Jeos> thanks. Ill try it out
[20:33] <shal3r_> Where can i get default ubuntu-oneiric kernel config? I want to try ubuntu kernel on non-ubuntu system
[20:34] <Promille> pinportal: Maby more "hidden"
[20:34] <dsda> Hi there, how do I change the icon theme in oneric?
[20:34] <zykotick9> does "apt-cache policy" show PPAs?
[20:35] <pinportal> thanks
[20:35] <trism> dsda: install gnome-tweak-tool and you can change the themes
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: if the package comes from a ppa, yes
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> dsda: there is the appearence app in dash you can run
[20:35] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: "apt-cache policy" without a package should list where all updates are coming from, i'm curious if PPAs are individual listed, or listed at all.
[20:35] <dsda> ActionParsnip: it doesn't allow me to change the icontheme however
[20:36] <Onepamopa> guys, any idea how to turn on TRIM on ssd software raid1 ?
[20:36] <Onepamopa> OS is already installed, fs = ext4
[20:36] <xsulfur> hi. i have a kind of noob question,but hey. Is there any youtube-downloader-type app for ubuntu ?? except for  flashcache script,and youtube-dl and windows programs throught Wine.. any Gui app ?  Thanks
[20:37] <xsulfur> by the way,sorry for my bad english
[20:37] <pinportal> what is the better linux today? Ubuntu?Why?
[20:37] <lino_> hi
[20:37] <Promille> trism: Hey, it worked. Thanks man :)
[20:37] <Onepamopa> anyone about trim?
[20:37] <acerimmer> xsulfur: there's a plugin you can add to ffox that does the job
[20:38] <aeon-ltd> pinportal: there isn't one, just use one that suits your needs and fits within your pc's specs
[20:38] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: the only thing that I can think of is that crontab is corrupted somehow since the seperate sh files are working correctly
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: is cron running ?
[20:39] <pinportal> ok, ubuntu 12,04 64bits will be recomended by canonical? why?
[20:39] <NickHu> Hey guys, quick query regarding X11 forwarding
[20:39] <xsulfur> acerimmer, Yes,i know..i just wondering if i could find a standalone GUI app. Anyway, many thanks
[20:39] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: how can I check this?
[20:39] <aeon-ltd> pinportal: because it moves with technologic and software develpoments, also it's easy for users to use
[20:39] <NickHu> Is it like VNC in that the user on the remote computer that I'm connecting to can also interact with it?
[20:40] <LjL> pinportal: this channel is strictly about Ubuntu technical support, please discuss hypotheticals in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:40] <zykotick9> NickHu: X forwarding doesn't typically provide as shared desktop no, you typically just start an application not the entire desktop (and the local user won't see it)
[20:41] <pinportal> ok but i have a AMD 32 bits that  is running  ubuntu 11,10
[20:41] <LjL> pinportal: ok, what's the problem?
[20:42] <NickHu> zykotick9: Thanks :)
[20:43] <Onepamopa> any idea on how to enable trim on software raid 1 ssd's ? os is already installed, fs is ext4
[20:43] <Onepamopa> ???
[20:43] <pinportal> how can i use the ubuntu 12,04 because my processor is 32 bits
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: ps -ef | grep -i cron
[20:43] <auronandace> !12.04 | pinportal
[20:43] <acerimmer> pinportal: use ubuntu 32 bit
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> pinportal: the release is available in 32bit
[20:44] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/815768/
[20:45] <pinportal> but i heard that canonical changed the tcnology in ubuntu and now ubuntu 64bits will now the recomended version for everybody because it is faaster, my question is how canonical made that/
[20:45] <pinportal> ?*
[20:45] <acerimmer> pinportal: why?  you said you have a 32 bit computer.  use the 32 bit software.  problem sovled.
[20:45] <zykotick9> Onepamopa: i haven't enabled trim on my SSD, but according to http://techgage.com/article/enabling_and_testing_ssd_trim_support_under_linux/ it's just a matter of adding "discard" to your fstab file?  good luck.
[20:45] <ohzie> What program handles media buttons on keyboards/laptops? Like my back/forward/play-pause/volumeup/volumedown/mute keys?
[20:46] <ohzie> sometimes they work and sometimes they don't
[20:46] <Onepamopa> zykotick9 nothing else ?
[20:46] <Onepamopa> if that's the case then - perfect
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: its running then, cron may have a log file in /var/log
[20:46] <Onepamopa> ;)
[20:46] <shal3r_> Where can i get default ubuntu-oneiric kernel config? I want to try ubuntu kernel on non-ubuntu system
[20:46]  * auronandace admires acerimmer (what a guy!)
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> pinportal: I'm on Precise 32bit right now..
[20:46] <ohzie> auronandace: Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back by morning.
[20:46] <auronandace> :)
[20:47] <acerimmer> ohzie: depends.  some computers have supported media keys - like my dell 1545 laptop.  some don't.
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> pinportal: 64bit isn't faster than 32bit overall.
[20:47] <ohzie> auronandace: I think that's the quote, I haven't seen it for years. Is it back by breakfast?
[20:47] <pinportal> ok thanks, do you think that ubuntu is now sufficient advanced to chance my windows 7 ?
[20:47] <ohzie> acerimmer: Mine work part of the time and don't work part of the time. Sometimes I have to reboot to make them work. I am using an HP laptop, if that helps.
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> pinportal: how do you mean "chance"?
[20:47] <auronandace> ohzie: yes, by breakfast (i fear we have hit offtopic)
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> pinportal: and how do you mean "advanced"
[20:48] <acerimmer> Ace's catchphrase is "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!"
[20:48] <pinportal> because i know that games as call of duty dont work!!
[20:48] <LjL> pinportal: that depends on what *you* need to do on your computer.
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> pinportal: well, it's made for WIndows.
[20:48] <ohzie> acerimmer: Okay I was close. Like I said, it's been years.
[20:48] <LjL> pinportal: if you're into Windows games a lot, use Windows.
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> pinportal: you can check the appdb to see how it runs in wine
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> pinportal: if you use the PC mainly for gaming, I'd stick with windows. Running games doesn't make an OS advanced.It means the devs have neglected to code it for any other OS.
[20:49] <acerimmer> ohzie: http://askubuntu.com/questions/61750/how-to-enable-the-hp-quickplay-buttons
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> pinportal: so thats no reflection of the OS
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> pinportal: games like urbanterror, Doom3, penumbra and return to castle wolfenstein ALL run natively on BOTH OSes
[20:51] <baf> hi guys, having recently problem to install flashplugin due broken dependencies. Anyone having the same problem?
[20:51] <ubuntufan> I had an issue where my machine locked up from running too many virtual machines on 11.10 (vmware). How do I prevent this from happening in the future?
[20:51] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: RtCW single player has been problematic/non-functional on my recent system... just sayin' ;)
[20:51] <NickHu> zykotick9: Is it possible to get X forwarding to achieve this "shared desktop" effect?
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> baf: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'           Thanks
[20:52] <zykotick9> NickHu: perhaps, but i'm unaware of a method to do it.  I wouldn't even know how to ssh forward a full desktop, other then by piggiebacking on vnc.
[20:52] <pinportal> i play only one: battlefield play for free, but i am exhausted to pay expensive to windows, because i bought a notebook with windows 7 in 2010 and now 2012 microsoft will show windows 8, and my OS will be old, in linux i can update for free but the programs are not so good than windows, so i dont know what to do....
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> NickHu: the apps you run will spawn new processes and display on the client only, so no.Why do you want to access the remote desktop?
[20:52] <ubuntufan> can I set a policy so that 5% of the cpu always remains free?
[20:53] <ubuntufan> for user mode in ubuntu
[20:53] <NickHu> ActionParsnip: To show my friend how to effectively use some linux stuff whilst talking over skype
[20:53] <zykotick9> pinportal: linux programs aren't as good as windows - that's funny.
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> pinportal: Windows 7 is still supported by Microsoft even when Windows 8 comes out. You don't need to upgrade just because a new release is out
[20:53] <baf> ActionParsnip : http://pastebin.com/9tYfQBth
[20:53] <thyrant> anyone know how to check md5sum on a file?
[20:54] <zykotick9> md5 | thyrant
[20:54] <brando_123> hello, can somebody tell me whether a dual monitor setup(extended desktop) on an intel integrated sandy bridge VGA card is even possible? I tried ubuntu 10.04, 11.10 & 12.04. I even tried xorg-edgers ... All to no avail
[20:54] <acerimmer> !md5sum|thyrant
[20:54] <zykotick9> !md5 | thyrant
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> NickHu: ahhh, a good use of VNC, you can use VNC via SSH tunnel for security
[20:54] <thyrant> thx
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> baf: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-downloader:i386
[20:54] <thyrant> thanks!
[20:55] <NickHu> ActionParsnip: Ah, okay, it's just I heard X11 forwarding uses less bandwidth, and I'd never used it before so I was curious :P
[20:55] <WordpressNoob> i tried installing ubuntu again, this time with --nomodeset
[20:55] <pinportal> on my chat is is always show that username X getting in, username Y get out, how can i stop that, because it is boring to conversation
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> baf: then enable the partner repo and install adobe-installer    you will get 64bit bit flash for your 64bit OS
[20:55] <WordpressNoob> my screen still goes into standby after the ubuntu logo and 5 dots load
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> pinportal: what client?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> WordpressNoob: it's nomodeset   not --nomodeset
[20:56] <baf> ActionParsnip : cheers, but did not help http://pastebin.com/xnQr5Jhf
[20:56] <pinportal> XChat
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> baf: when did I say to install flashplugin-installer??
[20:57] <baf> ActionParsnip : ahh, too quickly. I missed note from you
[20:57] <myk_robinson> Afternoon, all
[20:57] <mega1> what can i use for shared contacts on ubuntu server 11.10
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> baf: rad what I write, not what you think I write
[20:58] <myk_robinson> I have a Lenovo Z570 1024 laptop, and the spec shows that it has up to 5 hours battery life. This spec is obviously with the included Windows 7. I'd like to know what I can do to get anywhere near that with Ubuntu
[20:58] <WordpressNoob> ActionParsnip well i pressed tab on install, then type nomodeset
[20:58] <genewitch> myk_robinson: how much are you getting now?
[20:58] <WordpressNoob> the two dashes wer ejust there by default
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> pinportal: http://xchatdata.net/Using/Assistant   shows how
[20:58] <myk_robinson> genewitch: roughly 2 hours, maybe 10-15 minutes more
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> WordpressNoob: then its not right, i also suggest you remove: quiet splash      too
[20:59] <myk_robinson> genewitch: also, it takes about the same amount of time to charge, which may be normal. Never really used it with Windows
[20:59] <baf> ActionParsnip : thanx, will try
[20:59] <pinportal> thanks
[20:59] <genewitch> myk_robinson: since ubuntu uses a generic kernel you probably have to mess with power (apmd) settings using whatever interface you can, click your battery with your mouse and the dropdown click it again
[20:59] <acerimmer> myk_robinson: have you actually gotten 5 hours use on battery power under windows??
[20:59] <genewitch> myk_robinson: you can see the current and rating of the battery
[20:59] <genewitch> acerimmer: i get waaaay more battery out of ubuntu than i do windows on a netbook
[21:00] <genewitch> but i set it up to spin down discs and run with lower backlight and idle the CPU at a lower clockspeed
[21:00] <acerimmer> genewitch: right right.  I was questioning specs vs. reality
[21:00] <genewitch> acerimmer: well, here's the thing; myk_robinson you need to see if the battery is actually capable of holding the "rated" charge anymore
[21:00] <zykotick9> myk_robinson: "generally" windows will get longer batter life then gnu/linux (unfortunatly, blame the h/w makers)
[21:01] <genewitch> zykotick9: lol what
[21:01] <myk_robinson> genewitch: here's the info you asked about the battery     http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/5b1hb90z/PowerStatistics_028.png
[21:01] <zykotick9> genewitch: sad but true i'm afraid.
[21:01] <genewitch> zykotick9: it's a KERNEL command you can send, the intel stuff uses more power on linux untill you fix the kernel settings
[21:01] <genewitch> myk_robinson: so your battery is brand new
[21:01] <myk_robinson> genewitch: I assume the battery is still in good shape, the laptop is less that a year old, bought it in August (after driving over my old laptop with my truck accidentally)
[21:02] <genewitch> myk_robinson: yeah see that energy when full and energy(design) bit? that's what tells you how good your battery is
[21:02] <myk_robinson> genewitch: this states that its current capacity is not too far off from new?
[21:02] <zykotick9> myk_robinson: a year is a long time for a battery, that's why batteries aren't typically included with one year warranties
[21:03] <genewitch> myk_robinson: so you're using 5.5 Wh and you have 43.2 Wh, divide that, that's how long it should last doing whatever it is you were doing when you took that screen cap. obviously if you're watching videos or mining bitcoins.
[21:03] <[]omegadarkest[]> ubuntu 11.10 running samba, i have 2 nic's assigned connecting it through 2 different networks. I can access the share through eth0's ip just fine but when I try the eth1 network I can see the folders but says i don't have access to it. What might I be missing?
[21:03] <genewitch> myk_robinson: give it a week of ubuntu to adjust the nubmers, but it's saying that you're actually doing better than the spec for the battery. don't worry, mine says that too. it's a good thing.
[21:03] <myk_robinson> genewitch: Ubuntu has been installed on this since day one
[21:04] <myk_robinson> genewitch: that said, what did you mention earlier about apmd or something to improve on battery performance?
[21:04] <myk_robinson> genewitch: also, these days, does leaving a laptop plugged in most of the time negatively impact the battery?
[21:04] <zykotick9> myk_robinson: the powertop package might give you some insights?
[21:04] <zykotick9> myk_robinson: yes it does!  heat is a batteries worst enemy.
[21:05] <myk_robinson> zykotick9: i ran powertop earlier today and adjusted some toggles. They don't seem to stick.. After a reboot, everything is right back to where it was.
[21:05] <genewitch> myk_robinson: no you can leave it plugged in. it's bad to let ti go down like 40% then charge, then down 10% then charge. not horrible, but not as good as depleting it then recharging or just leaving it plugged in all the time
[21:05] <PatrickC> i keep getting this error when trying to upgrade to 12.04
[21:05] <PatrickC> http://i.imgur.com/wWljR.jpg
[21:05] <PatrickC> crap, wrong link
[21:05] <PatrickC> 1 second
[21:05] <PatrickC> http://pastebin.com/qa3SpZg8
[21:05] <Pici> PatrickC: 12.04 support is in #ubuntu+1 at this time.
[21:05] <zykotick9> genewitch: modern batteries don't have a memory, no longer an issue.  charging them all the time is!
[21:05] <PatrickC> ok thanks
[21:05] <genewitch> myk_robinson: http://smackerelofopinion.blogspot.com/2011/12/improving-battery-life-in-ubuntu.html and another http://zinc.canonical.com/~cking/power-benchmarking/notes/reducing-power-consumption-tricks.txt
[21:05] <myk_robinson> genewitch: so it theory, everything is probably fine, but Windows does some kind of magic to get these ridiculous claims of 5-8 hours?
[21:06] <genewitch> zykotick9: it's not memory, it's just the heat that dries out the goop in the batteries faster
[21:06] <acerimmer> PatrickC: AND it's still only an alpha release.  what do you expect?
[21:06] <genewitch> myk_robinson: it allows the CPU to idle at a lower clock speed
[21:06] <zykotick9> genewitch: leaving it plugged in - is bad advice... all i'm saying.
[21:06] <genewitch> myk_robinson: ubuntu can do it too, just not out of the box because it makes a machine feel sluggish when you wake it up
[21:06] <genewitch> zykotick9: my laptop stays docked 9 hours a day... the battery is fine
[21:07] <zykotick9> !wfm | genewitch
[21:07] <myk_robinson> genewitch: regarding powertop, how do I make my toggled adjustements "stick"?
[21:07] <ShooterMG> in ubuntu 11, where do i go to manually edit the screen resolutions/refresh rates?
[21:07] <eventi> are there any upstart experts here?
[21:08] <myk_robinson> here's what powertop currently says      http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/upqlxd50/mykrobIdeapadZ570_029.png
[21:08] <CyberDawg> Anyone know how to change to boot page splash screen?
[21:08] <Kimble> Hi.  I need a filesystem-level clone tool for Ubuntu server that can run from a CD.  Googling reveals what I can only surmise as being block-level clones, which is no good for my purposes.  Any suggestions?
[21:09] <zykotick9> Kimble: rsync?
[21:09] <Kimble> myk_robinson: I had this exact question.  PowerTOP settings are designed _not_ to stick.  This was a programming decision. They do not survive reboot. You have to manually apply them each time you boot.
[21:09] <tyler_d> I am trying to run scorched earth3d and it continues to tell me that it cannot render the graphics
[21:09] <genewitch> myk_robinson: run it as root i imagine
[21:10] <myk_robinson> Kimble: seems kinda silly...Maybe its by design so that if you totally screw something up it will revert, but if it works well, i'm sure there's a way to make it permanent
[21:10] <tyler_d> I don't really want to install the actual nvidia drivers as I have heard nothing but problems from them
[21:10] <myk_robinson> genewitch: you have to run powertop as root. Kimble says this is normal, though
[21:10] <Kimble> zykotick9: ok.  How would I best use it to accomplish my purpose?  I'd rather it cloned to a single, portable file (like a tar or some such).
[21:11] <genewitch> myk_robinson: googling "laptop ubuntu tweaks" is generally what i would do
[21:11] <zykotick9> Kimble: so why the filesystem level requirement?  clonezilla can clone drives to files?
[21:11] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! Do you know how to remap some keys?
[21:11] <genewitch> myk_robinson: i have half the rated power in my netbook battery that it advertised (i bought a floor model) and i still get 5+ hours out of it between charges
[21:11] <Kimble> zykotick9: I need the ability to restore the clone to a partition of smaller size.
[21:11] <genewitch> i just googled around
[21:11] <CyberDawg> nobody knows?
[21:12] <zykotick9> Kimble: sorry, i'm not familiar with rsyncing to a file.  Good luck.
[21:12] <Kimble> zykotick9: np.
[21:12] <tyler_d> CyberDawg: whats the question?
[21:13] <guest_> how to install & work with xmonad
[21:13] <Kimble> myk_robinson: check out the archives at the PowerTOP mailing list here: http://www.bughost.org/mailman/listinfo/power.
[21:13] <CyberDawg> hi tyler_d  I would like to change the boot screen background ( Get away from the ugly purple one)  Any ideas how to do that?
[21:13] <Kimble> It's not loading for me just now, perhaps you'll have better luck.  Go to this month's archives and you'll see a discussion there on your topic.
[21:14] <Wulong> Why does the service not get restarted when running it in crontab? * * * * * if iwconfig wlan0 | grep -o "Access Point: Not-Associated"; then service network-manager restart;fi
[21:14] <tyler_d> CyberDawg: I would highly recommend checking through some of the posts at gnome-looks as from what I gather there are several diff options to get this done.
[21:14] <zykotick9> guest_: install with "sudo apt-get install xmonad" for use check documentation/their site perhaps?  are you sure you know what you're getting into ;)
[21:14] <CyberDawg> gnome-looks ?
[21:14] <oneliner> i noticed the update manager is pushing a new kernel, but i got edgers video drivers, any one able to confirm headers wont break this install?
[21:15] <JoseeAntonioR> CyberDawg You can find instructions here: www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-easily-change-your-usplash-screen-in-ubuntu/
[21:15] <tyler_d> Wulong: because network manager is run in x with sudo permissions, you have probably added that to your users crontab
[21:15] <myk_robinson> reading this at the moment    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/PowerSavingTweaks
[21:15] <CyberDawg> JoseeAntonioR,  thanks mang
[21:15] <zykotick9> JoseeAntonioR: usplash != plymouth
[21:15] <Wulong> tyler_d: I have added it in roots crontab.
[21:15] <guest_> zykotick9, nah, i'm just trying it our. i've installed the package but when i login into xmonad session, i dont get anything(not even a welcome message)
[21:15] <tyler_d> Wulong: what does it report the problem as?
[21:16] <tyler_d> Wulong: moreover why are you doing that?
[21:16] <zykotick9> guest_: that doesn't surprise me.  Sorry i've never used xmonad, i recently started using awesome.
[21:16] <Wulong> Because network-manager sucks when it comes to reconnect
[21:16] <tyler_d> Wulong: that does not really describe a problem?
[21:16] <guest_> awesome?
[21:16] <Wulong> If it looses connection and not gain it within 30 sec it NEVER tries again.
[21:17] <zykotick9> guest_: awesome WM is the hardest windows manager i've ever used, but it is awesome once you get it working ;) if you like tiling windows managers
[21:18] <CyberDawg> JoseeAntonioR, when I tried that I got a message back thast says:  Virtual packages like 'usplash' can't be removed
[21:18] <zykotick9> CyberDawg: FYI usplash is WAY outdated!
[21:18] <FSK> good day everone
[21:18] <rodrigo__> hi
[21:18] <CyberDawg> zykotick9, how do I do it then?
[21:19] <JoseeAntonioR> CyberDawg Realised that is an old tutorial. Maybe you can try with this one: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/customize-boot-splash-screen-logo-linux/
[21:19] <ShooterMG> in ubuntu 11, where do i go to manually edit the screen resolutions/refresh rates?
[21:19] <zykotick9> CyberDawg: sorry i forget now (i used to worry about suck eyecandy, not so much anymore).  good luck.
[21:19] <sedeki> I want to list all flags to a certain kernel module, how can I do that? (without going into the particular config file in question)
[21:19] <zykotick9> s/suck/such/
[21:19] <CyberDawg> lol zykotick9 sorry for the newbie action
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Wulong: alternatives to network manager exist, there is wicd and wifi-radar I can think of quickly
[21:22] <hexacode> hey you guys, im trying to set up svnserve and it says i need to create a single svn user on my system then run the server process as that user...how can i do this?   i think i recalle using chown on certain files before? is this what i do?  do i chown the daemon executable ?
[21:22] <berkes> Now here is something weird: Somehow my remote is not handled by lirc, it seems. If I kill lircd/lirc processes it continues working!
[21:22] <Rafig> bb all!
[21:22] <berkes> Any idea what could be handling this remote? Could it be that Xorg thinks its an own device?
[21:22] <berkes>  ~input device.
[21:24] <Mathuin> Hey all.  I set up Google authentication on my Ubuntu system so whenever I ssh in or run sudo I have to check my Android phone.  I'd like to remove the Android check on "local" (home net) ssh access.  How do I make PAM rules different for different IP addresses?
[21:26] <CyberDawg> *sigh*... why are all the information site so out dated and not applicable to 11.10?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> CyberDawg: depends on the guide you look at *sigh*
[21:27] <Wulong> ActionParsnip: I know about the alternatives, but I want to keep the integration and simplicity. It's on a weak HTPC.
[21:27] <CyberDawg> ActionParsnip, :P
[21:27] <notlistening> 3G modem , needs reseting without a replug.... ideas welcomed
[21:28] <CyberDawg> ActionParsnip, seems so simple to do but everything is pre 11.10
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Wulong: you can install wicd-curses and use it at cli, no gui app will run
[21:29] <CyberDawg> apparently there is no usr/share/images file any longer
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> CyberDawg: some still applies
[21:29] <CyberDawg> ActionParsnip, "some" doesnt do it for me
[21:29] <CyberDawg> :P
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> CyberDawg: what are you wanting that folder for?
[21:29] <Mathuin> Actually, if there's any reference documentation for PAM that's newer than the 2006 stuff on kernel.org, that'd be helpful.
[21:30] <Static> Hello. I'm unable to receive sound through the headphone jack, when it's plugged in the sound continues to play through the speakers and nothing comes through the headphones. I'm running ubuntu 11.04 on a Sony Vaio pcg-91211m, any suggestions? D:
[21:30] <issa> I recently installed ubuntu 11.10 on a toshiba a500 laptop i7 nvidia and it heats up a lot ... I tried every solution out there but no good ... any help ?
[21:30] <CyberDawg> ActionParsnip, I want to change my bootloader background
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> Mathuin: so you are SSHing to your phone?
[21:30] <Static> Also, here's my alsa info: pcg-91211m
[21:30] <Static> oops
[21:30] <Static> * pcg-91211m
[21:30] <Static> Pff
[21:30] <Static> *http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=04308d58bfb6b2bc1ccaa99034eb52bdc75f6e58
[21:30] <Static> :D
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> CyberDawg: why didn't you say that rather than some pathetic rant?
[21:30] <Mathuin> ActionParsnip: I am ssh'ing to my home server from work, and the password I enter is the verification code that is displayd on the Google authenticator.
[21:31] <CyberDawg> because I am on this end of the now long quest to get this done :)
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> Mathuin: not seen that, what client are you using?
[21:31] <Mathuin> ActionParsnip: I installed libpam-google-authenticator and added the requisite lines to /etc/pamd/common-auth.
[21:31] <Mathuin> Standard ssh client and server, the magic's in the PAM.
[21:32] <Mathuin> Freaking epic, as long as I don't lose my phone.
[21:32] <CyberDawg> ActionParsnip, can you help kind sir?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> CyberDawg: if you wanted to change the bootloaderin Grub2, why didn't you just say that instead of all the "*sigh*" nonesense?
[21:33] <hexacode> how do i run a server proccess as a specific user?
[21:34] <Mathuin> The lazy way around my problem is to install my private key on all my other internal servers. :-P
[21:34] <CyberDawg> ActionParsnip, if you would have been here yesterday paying attention when I started this project you would not have seen the *sigh*'s you seem to be stuck on ;)
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> CyberDawg: its still of zero value, if you just state your issue, you get help faster. Simple
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> CyberDawg: http://www.multimediaboom.com/adding-background-on-grub2-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[21:35] <CyberDawg> ActionParsnip, thank you again kind sir :)
[21:35] <Mathuin> As far as "updating the information sites", all I can say is that the Ubuntu folks seem to only care about the canonical (pardon the pun) sites being updated for launch -- and that you should "feel free" to update them. ;-)
[21:35] <acerimmer> ActionParsnip: save this for later use?? http://troll.me/english-motherfucker-do-you-speak-it/
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> CyberDawg: just copy in the file and run:  sudo update-grub   easy peasy
[21:36] <CyberDawg> thank you
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> acerimmer: http://captionsearch.com/pix/i96v5pflr5.jpg
[21:43] <cheapie> Wow... it's really slow right now...
[21:44] <varun06> can we try HUD in oniric?
[21:44] <TL1> Hi the brightness isn't responding in my hp laptop whatever I do.
[21:44] <acerimmer> TL1 do your other HP custom keys work?
[21:44] <TL1> I'm on natty 64bit can anyone help me plz ?
[21:44] <TL1> acerimmer: yes
[21:45] <MrKeuner> hi, am I alone hating "Clean up by Name" feature in gnome context menu? Is there a way to disable it?
[21:45] <jeremiah_> why is cronium so slow?
[21:45] <TL1> the brightness key respond but not the lcd
[21:45] <MrKeuner> jeremiah_, try using extesnions disabled
[21:45] <VIPER-II> guys... Is there some kinda program to find out how hard my GPU is sweating in Ubuntu? I have a feeling that my vga-card is getting more than she can handle. So I need something to check how hard it's going while playing just 1 movie.
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> varun06: i'd check on omgubuntu
[21:46] <Static> I cannot receive sound through my headphones, it keeps playing through my speakers. Here is my sound info: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=04308d58bfb6b2bc1ccaa99034eb52bdc75f6e58 any ideas?
[21:46] <jeremiah_> so frusterating.  how do i get there
[21:47] <MrKeuner> jeremiah_, try opening a new profile
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: tried the daily build?
[21:48] <TL1> my webcam is working, only the fingerprint and the brightness are the problems
[21:48] <jeremiah_> my internet is not working!!!! i am trying to install firefox  but can't because i don't  know how!!!
[21:48] <kish|> hey gubunut
[21:48] <kish|> ''
[21:48] <kish|> u git oriblems
[21:48] <kish|> i got problems
[21:48] <Si2100> jeremiah_ What message does it say ?
[21:48] <bazhang> kish|, what with
[21:48] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Why can't you install it?
[21:48] <VIPER-II> Static: i think it has to do with your output settings.
[21:48] <MrKeuner> jeremiah_, good luck
[21:48] <cheapie> kish|: What's wrong?
[21:49] <Fujk> is 7% packet loss pinging my local router normal?
[21:49] <VIPER-II> Static: when you click on your speaker-icon
[21:49] <jeremiah_> for google and other stuf- webpage unavailable
[21:49] <kish|> i got problems with an overwritten grub.cfg .. im sent to grub rescue and the !grubrescue in debian doesnt work
[21:49] <kish|> cheapie. the problem is an overwritten grub.cfg
[21:49] <jeremiah_> i don't know how!!!!
[21:49] <Static> VIPER-II: Sound Preferences?
[21:49] <cheapie> jeremiah_: So when you try to install Firefox as you were saying, what happens?
[21:49] <TL1> any thing I can do ( I tried acpi=linux and other kernel things)
[21:49] <VIPER-II> well it's that interface where you get the sound preferences indeed
[21:49] <cheapie> kish|: Try sudo update-grub
[21:49] <VIPER-II> different tabs
[21:50] <VIPER-II> one of them talks about Sound Output
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:50] <VIPER-II> If i can remember, there you can select what the output is.
[21:50] <jeremiah_> i do not know what to do. in windows i get a wizzard. this is linux you do not get a wizzard
[21:50] <mega1> in ubuntu server 11.10 how do i list all running programs
[21:50] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Open the Software Center, find Firefox, click install.
[21:51] <acerimmer> jeremiah_: this ain't windows.  chocolate isn't vanilla either.
[21:51] <cheapie> mega1: Use "ps ax | less"
[21:51] <Static> VIPER-II: There's one for my speakers and one for the HDMI output, but nothing on headphones.
[21:51] <TL1> mega1: run system monitor
[21:51] <jiffe98> I don't understand how the mysql-cluster-server wants to uninstall apache2-threaded-dev
[21:51] <VIPER-II> oh snag... :S
[21:51] <jeremiah_> i know i just dont know what to do
[21:51] <cheapie> TL1: Server has a GUI now?
[21:52] <MrKeuner> jeremiah_, you get a wizard for installing firefox in windows?
[21:52] <jeremiah_> an i don't have software senter. lubuntu apperantly does not have it
[21:52] <VIPER-II> Static: sorry.... my knowledge ends there.
[21:52] <TL1> cheapie: mine does
[21:52] <TL1> LOL
[21:52] <cheapie> TL1: By default?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> Static: try:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[21:52] <funkymonk> how can i upgrade my mysql currently its using 55.1.58-1ubuntu1 (ubuntu)
[21:52] <jeremiah_> and yes i doget a wizzard
[21:52] <jiffe98> someone messed up somewhere
[21:52] <Static> mega1: run "ps aux" or install htop (sudo apt-get install htop)
[21:52] <funkymonk> how can i upgrade my mysql currently its using 5.1.58-1ubuntu1 (ubuntu)
[21:52] <MrKeuner> jeremiah_, cool
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: what are you trying to do? What is the wizard for?
[21:53] <TL1> cheapie: no
[21:53] <jeremiah_> oh my gosh. there is no wizzard!!!!
[21:53] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Try running "sudo synaptic" and see if "Synaptic Package Manager" opens.
[21:53] <jeremiah_> it is linux not windows
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: what would it do if there was one?
[21:53] <MrKeuner> jeremiah_, do not panic
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> cheapie: gksudo for gui apps, not sude
[21:53] <acerimmer> jeremiah_: lubuntu has synaptic
[21:53] <jeremiah_> it brings a error about something
[21:54] <MrKeuner> jeremiah_, don;t worry
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: what are you trying to achieve?
[21:54] <jeremiah_> synpac does not work
[21:54] <cheapie> jeremiah_ About what?
[21:54] <Static> ActionParsnip: Shall I restart my computer now I have done that?
[21:54] <jeremiah_> getting firefox
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> Static: can't hurt :)
[21:54] <TL1> anyone with the brightness problem (does it go away with oneric ?)
[21:54] <Static> ActionParsnip: Okay, see you in a minute :P
[21:54] <cheapie> jeremiah_: What does it do?
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: just run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox
[21:54] <kish|> dasei i see you'
[21:54] <DasEi> !grub
[21:54] <acerimmer> ActionParsnip: I've got lubuntu running in virtual box and can mirro jeremiah
[21:54] <jeremiah_> nothing. i do not know what to do
[21:55] <Fujk> should auto-negotiation be on or off on my network card?
[21:55] <VIPER-II> ok guys..  come on.... Videocard-performance... where?
[21:55] <DasEi> first link, Kish|, ask if you get stuck
[21:55] <kuba_> CZAJNIK
[21:55] <TL1> you don't want firefox on lubuntu it's a ram monster get seamonkey or something lightweight
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: run the command I gave in lxterminal (you can run one with CTRL+ALT+T) and you will get firefox
[21:55] <ksbalaji> Mine is lucid 10.4 . While booting, power manager waits until / keeps waiting for checking / ?!  dvd which is unusual. I boot from my hard disk and there is no need for accessing the dvd drive. Also, I see nautilus accessing the dvd drive when I open other hard disk partitions. Why please?
[21:55] <cheapie> ActionParsnip: I think we're pulling jeremiah_ two different ways at once. I'd like to help him myself...
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> acerimmer: I use lubuntu on all my systems, I've used LXDE for a looong time
[21:56] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Type "firefox"
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> cheapie: remember to use gksudo for gui apps though
[21:56] <jeremiah_> firefox
[21:56] <LtHummus> is there some cli tool that can tell me how much data i'm currently transferring over a network interface (i.e. gives me info like Down: XXX Mbps, Up: XXX Mbps)?
[21:56] <cheapie> ...in the search box and right-click the result
[21:56] <cheapie> and choose install
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> LtHummus: ntop
[21:56] <LtHummus> thanks ActionParsnip
[21:56] <Si2100> cheapie, Gnome3 /-Shell FTW
[21:56] <cheapie> ActionParsnip: Sorry, I just assumed we were working in a terminal... My fault...
[21:57] <iceroot> LtHummus: vnstat
[21:57] <Static> ActionParsnip: Didn't seem to work :(
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> cheapie: you willbe to use that but sudo is not suitable for ui apps like synaptic
[21:57] <TL1> help plz my battery is getting dry on high brightness :-(
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> TL1: what make and model system?
[21:57] <cheapie> jeremiah: I meant to have you type "firefox" in synaptic's search box, not here...
[21:57] <LtHummus> iceroot: thanks
[21:58] <Slart> LtHummus: add 'nload' to the growing list of bandwidth monitoring tools =)
[21:58] <cheapie> jeremiah_ (I messed it up again! Is the underscore necessary?): I meant to have you type "firefox" in synaptic's search box, not here...
[21:58] <LtHummus> Slart: will do :)
[21:59] <TL1> ActionParsnip: hp 6177se natty 64 kernel 2.6--13
[21:59] <Fujk> wow this is amazing. my mobo network card kept disconnecting every 10 mins because of driver problems (I thought), so I bought a intel network card, and guess what? SAME PROBLEM! How the HELL is this possible?! I have 0 problems in windows!
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> Static: try:  echo "options snd-hda-intel model=laptop" | sudo tell -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[21:59] <ppetraki> is anyone suddenly the victim of lightdm login problems?
[21:59] <jeremiah_> the error when i tryed to open it Unable to get exclusive lock
[21:59] <jeremiah_> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) is already running. Please close that application first.
[22:00] <cheapie> jeremiah_: What else is running?
[22:00] <ppetraki> doesn't matter how I login, guest or normal user, as soon as the desktop starts up, I'm kicked back out again to the login screen
[22:00] <jeremiah_> nothing
[22:00] <em>  is it normal for a live cd to take a long time to start?
[22:00] <jeremiah_> oh i mean xchat
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: if you are using synaptic to install stuff or it is open, it will lock the packages. This means other apps cannot install stuff. Close synaptic and use cli only if you are wanting to use that
[22:00] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Try closing it, and running "gksu synaptic".
[22:01] <em> its on the splash 'ubuntu' thing with the red dots, but nothing is happening.
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> em: optical media are notoriously slow
[22:01] <Static> ActionParsnip: Done it, shall I restart?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> em: what video chip do you use
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> Static: go for it
[22:01] <em> im afraid i don't know.
[22:01] <cheapie> jeremiah: Not close xchat, close Synaptic.
[22:01] <Static> ActionParsnip: Okay, see you in a minute, again :P
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> em: does the system have a make and model
[22:01] <em> my real problem is that everything was splendid and then i did a full-upgrade and when i restarted it makes it through the splash page and then NO VIDEO.
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> em: yes you may need a boot option to make the video load ok
[22:02] <em> I thought maybe somehow i can try fixing things with a live CD
[22:02] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Are you still there?
[22:02] <em> what's a boot option?
[22:02] <javier_> Hi! One question. Is Ubuntu safe to habkers attack?
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> em: you can, what is the make and model of the system. Then we can give it
[22:03] <jeremiah_> i tryed brough up the same message and i have nothing running
[22:03] <em> well the motherboard is a gigabyte.
[22:03] <javier_> *hackers
[22:03] <cheapie> javier_: It's as secure as you make it - usually very secure.
[22:03] <TL1> javier_: depends on the hacker type
[22:03] <acerimmer> !safe|javier_
[22:03] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Odd...
[22:03] <ssta> javier_: umm, out of the box it's pretty secure
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> javier_: the default security model is pretty good
[22:03] <em> ActionParsnip: it's a computer put together from parts.
[22:03] <jeremiah_> i know. i can't do anything
[22:03] <jeremiah_> my pc is messed
[22:04] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Would anybody else be logged in?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> em: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[22:04] <em> ActionParsnip: oh it looks like the live cd maybe is finally making it here.
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: use the command line as I said. I suggest you reboot first
[22:04] <Static> ActionParsnip: Didn't seem to work :(
[22:04] <jeremiah_> no. there are no other users on my pc
[22:04] <TL1>  :'(  brightness
[22:04] <em> ActionParsnip: in the live cd or in the normal start up of the installed ubuntu?
[22:04] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Try restarting it.
[22:05] <jeremiah_> you mean "try turning it off and on again"
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Static: you need to change that line in alsa-base.conf   til you find one that works
[22:05] <em> ActionParsnip: good news is that the live cd finally started. And there is video on the live CD. So i know it's not hardware.
[22:05] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Yes.
[22:05] <jeremiah_> did you get it?
[22:05] <javier_> cheapie, good to know. Some of my friends are having problems with a hacker, he's entering their computer (based on the fact they are friends of his ex-girlfriend), reading their mails and facebook things and revealing true and false information to other people they know. I want to make sure my system is as secure as possible in order to prevent this to happen to me. Fortunatelly I feel safer with ubuntu than in windows :). But, how to make my system as saf
[22:05] <javier_> e as it is possible?
[22:05] <jeremiah_> the IT Croud
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> em: never doubted the hardware, sometimes hardware causes the need for bootoptions so the kernel runs ok
[22:05] <auronandace> jeremiah_: yes, it crowd reference
[22:05] <Static> ActionParsnip: How many possibilities are there? D:
[22:06] <cheapie> javier_: They might have your passwords to those websites.
[22:06] <smittix> does anyone know how to get brightness keys working within 11.10?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: ive seen it.it does help. If you've worked in IT you'd get the joke better
[22:06] <balloons> can anyone point me to a channel where the xserver guys hang out?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Static: a good few
[22:06] <em> ActionParsnip: perhaps I an put the boot options in some config some place? I seem to hav a live session maybe I can mount the file system and add it.
[22:06] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Wait, what?
[22:06] <jeremiah_> well i will see what happens. bye!
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> balloons: #xorg possibly
[22:06] <Static> ActionParsnip: Is there a list somewhere?
[22:06] <em> ActionParsnip: im not sure how to do a boot option at startup. Also I use encryption so i have to type in my password at startup.
[22:07] <balloons> ActionParsnip, thanks, but I was wondering if there was perhaps a ubuntu specific channel
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> em: you apply the boot option on the boot, before the CD starts to boot properly. Its not in a config file. The cD is read only
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> balloons: right here
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | em
[22:07] <javier_> And how to reach maximum security in ubuntu? I guess it's involved as well mail and facebook security, and that getting good and long passwords there is also important
[22:07] <DasEi> kish|: getting bywith boot repair ?
[22:07] <em> ActionParsnip: oh so you are saying this is for booting the live CD?  The live CD has now booted, and it has video. My problem is that I don't have video when i start my normal installed ubuntu.
[22:07] <ChipDSnow> Have a scripting question.
[22:08] <TL1>  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'( 30%
[22:08] <balloons> thanks
[22:08] <ChipDSnow> I'm always converting video files from *.3gp to *.mpg, would like a script that I could call up anywhere, and convert it to a file name that I designate.
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> javier_: you can configure the inbuilt firewall. You can help lock stuff down. If you use a home router you should be ok
[22:09] <TL1> I'm Charging
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> ChipDSnow: http://www.icelab.eu/en/blog/ubuntu-and-linux-12/converting-3gp-videos-to-mpeg-on-ubuntu-65.htm
[22:09] <varun06> don't know why, but update-manager-c/d not working on my machine  I am entering command and pressing enter nothing is happening
[22:10] <LtHummus> what day does ubuntu 10.10 become unspported?  I know it's in april, but i don't know when...it's it at the end of april? before?
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> em: you can hold shift at boot and edit the grub boot options on the fly for that boot only
[22:11] <javier_> ActionParsnip, I use a home router. Am I ok without configuring inbuilt firewall? I have the idea that someone can enter my things by reading my router incoming and sending packets. How to prevent that? Is it a long password in my router enough? shall I do things like filter MACs?
[22:11] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Welcome back! Is Synaptic working now?
[22:11] <Static> ActionParsnip: How do I know what to put in that line of the alsa configuration? D:
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> javier_: i don't configure any firwall, works ok here. Obviously if its a mobile system then configure it
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Static: find guides online for your make and model system
[22:12] <javier_> ActionParsnip, I see. Should be ok then. Just will make safer my passwords
[22:13] <TL1> Does installing the ati driver affects the brightness ?
[22:13] <javier_> ActionParsnip, my problem then is that I need to boot windows sometimes, because I work on some applications which I can't install in Ubuntu. Will try to get a good firewall tehre
[22:13] <jeremiah_> yes
[22:13] <jeremiah_> ish
[22:13] <cheapie> jeremaih_: ...ish?
[22:14] <cheapie> jeremiah_: ...ish?
[22:15] <jeremiah_> ya. i got it working but there is no signs that it is installing except that the download bar popped up
[22:15] <em> ActionParsnip: when do you hold down shift?  On my computer the first thing it does is ask for the encryption password because I have full disk encryption on it, then it goes to the ubuntu splash screen. When it works I never see any grub at all.
[22:15] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Is said download bar doing anything?
[22:16] <jeremiah_> no
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> em: as soon as the system starts to boot
[22:16] <DasEi> ChipDSnow:#bash is there, do a textfile, let's say conv.sh start #!/bin/bash first line, ad your commands , save make exucatable, have in userdir
[22:17] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Odd. Does it show a download rate?
[22:17] <jeremiah_> nope.
[22:18] <cheapie> jeremiah: Are you chatting from the same computer?
[22:18] <omega__> Hey, question, what is better to use for testing ubuntu, wubuntu or virutalbox?
[22:18] <zith> can anyone confirm it's possible to switch the NV4200 to discrete mode in the bios on the thinkpad T420 so that i can use it in ubuntu?
[22:18] <acerimmer> !best| omega__:
[22:18] <auronandace> omega__: virtualbox
[22:20] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Try expanding the window and see what it says.
[22:20] <auronandace> zith: hybrid graphics are not well supported yet under linux
[22:20] <jeremiah_> it says...
[22:20] <jeremiah_> ....nothing!
[22:20] <TL1> auronandace: and that's cause a problem with brightness I'm hybird graphics
[22:20] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Black or white?
[22:21] <jeremiah_> ?
[22:21] <ziggid> I have a question, how do I get Low Orbit Impact Cannon (LOIC) to run in Windows
[22:21] <jeremiah_> there is just a bar
[22:21] <TL1> auronandace: but i've disabled the discrete does that make me regular ?
[22:21] <ziggid> it keeps giving me this error that I get when I don't ahve the .NET framework installed
[22:21] <cheapie> jeremiah_: When you expanded the details, whas it black with a flashing box or white?
[22:21] <auronandace> TL1: no idea sorry
[22:21] <jeremiah_> white
[22:22] <cheapie> !windows | ziggid
[22:22] <ziggid> oh ok
[22:22] <ziggid> What are some good, proven, tried and true Remote Linux exploits
[22:22] <TL1> auronandace: fine thx
[22:22] <ziggid> in these days of closed ports
[22:22] <DasEi> omega__: vmware, or install to an usb
[22:22] <em> there is no way to press shift before it boots
[22:22] <cheapie> jeremiah_: Try canceling it, and running, in a terminal, "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[22:22] <ksbalaji> Is it normal for nautilus to access dvd drive when I click to open folder in a hard disk drive?
[22:22] <ziggid> Is anyone here taking part in the big Facebook.com DDoS?
[22:22] <em> ActionParsnip: you mean when it's in the bios stuff?
[22:23] <em> ActionParsnip: I have full disk encryption on my machine so I enter my password when it starts.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> em: when the BIOS data shows, yes. Hold shift
[22:23] <DasEi> !usb | omega; err virtualbox is safer then wubi
[22:23] <TL1> ziggid: an attack ?
[22:23] <omega__> DasEi: does live really work that well?  i heard it is REALLY slow
[22:23] <cheapie> !illegal | ziggid
[22:23] <em> ActionParsnip: I have no problem getting that far, and i even successfully enter the password. Only then when it would normally start GNOME does the video go black and then nothing.
[22:23] <Pumpkin-> ziggid: no but I think you are doing a fine job of getting yourself removed from this channel, but I guess you knew that already.
[22:25] <ziggid> TL1: Yes
[22:25] <DasEi> omega__: it is laggy, true, if you justwant to test, install either to a usb least 4g in size , virtualbox or vmware, that'sjust my taste, I'd use vbox from their hp
[22:25] <ziggid> They tell you to download Loic to help participate in the DDoS
[22:25] <ziggid> I don't know about you, but I'm joining them
[22:25] <jeremiah_> I know what. I think the internet is not working. I will reset the server and modem
[22:25] <zith> auronandace: i realize this, but according to some people you can force the T420 to use the graphics card at all times, thus not running into the problems with software switching
[22:25] <zith> i just wanted to confirm this was the case
[22:25] <jeremiah_> I will be back in ten min.
[22:25] <ksbalaji> My dvd drive is being accessed whenever I access my hard disk drive. It keep delaying work. How to fix this please?
[22:25] <TL1> ziggid: thank you this is not appropriate to the channel
[22:25] <em> ActionParsnip: when i just press shift from the very start and hold it down it eventually goes to a black screen with a blinking underscore in the upper left hand corner, and it doesn't change after that.
[22:26] <cheapie> jeremiah_: OK.
[22:26] <cheapie> jeremiah_: I can wait.
[22:26] <TL1> ziggid: this is evil and serve no purpose except battling companies
[22:26] <auronandace> zith: whatever you can do in the bios is completely seperate to ubuntu (or any os for that matter), so short answer: check your bios
[22:26] <ziggid> On January 28, 2012 at 12 AM they are asking us as Internet users to DDoS Facebook http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUpad4TKi5o
[22:26] <ziggid> They need all the help they can get
[22:26] <DasEi> omega__: specs of your box (cpu,ram)?
[22:26] <ziggid> also click here: http://www.doj.gov
[22:27] <xangua> ziggid: please stop
[22:27] <TL1> ziggid: if you wan't to do something usefull then come join open source world
[22:27] <ksbalaji> cheapie, If jeremiah_ s internet is not working, how xchat is working? I wonder.
[22:27] <cheapie> ziggid: Once again...
[22:27] <cheapie> !illegal | ziggid
[22:27] <ziggid> I have.  I have written perl scripts for hacking
[22:27] <TL1> ziggid: pherhaps you might fix my brightness problem
[22:27] <ziggid> and released them to the public
[22:27] <auronandace> !ops
[22:27] <ziggid> So
[22:27] <cheapie> ..and it won't work...
[22:27] <ziggid> What's a good way to get past IP filters
[22:27] <ziggid> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUpad4TKi5o
[22:27] <Myrtti> auronandace: what?
[22:28] <h00k> ziggid: Not in here.
[22:28] <ziggid> Is the facebook.com DDoS on January 28 legiot
[22:28] <auronandace> Myrtti: ziggid is persisting in offtopic talk
[22:28] <ziggid> it's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVSQ3JIgIXE
[22:28] <bazhang> ziggid, stop it
[22:28] <DasEi> Myrtti: ziggi..
[22:28] <ziggid> Anonymous Message On How YOU Can Be A Part Of #OpGlobalBlackout FACEBOOK ATTACK 12 AM EST USA
[22:28] <Myrtti> ziggid: please stop. NOW.
[22:28] <TL1> ziggid: you really don't get the idea that there is a channel for everything ?
[22:28] <zith> auronandace: you are right of course, i was hoping someone in here had one of these laptops and could confirm this before i bought one, but i guess i could find a more relevant channel to ask
[22:28] <zith> thanks though
[22:28] <auronandace> zith: i got a t510, but that just has a nvidia card
[22:32] <carolvs> hello everyone
[22:32] <douginho> Hi
[22:32] <kasii> iron lion zion
[22:33] <ettore> ciao a tutti
[22:33] <ettore> !list
[22:33] <ettore> help
[22:33] <DasEi> !ask
[22:34] <acerimmer> !italian|ettore
[22:34] <ettore> ok grz
[22:36] <rciovati> hi guys i made a mistake with tasksel tool and it removed part of gnome. how can i restore it? i need an installation dvd?
[22:36] <blkperl> how do you set a static ipv6 address in /etc/network/interfaces?
[22:36] <jeremiah__> ok i am back
[22:37] <douginho> Hey guys, I ran some updates this evening and since then, my wireless has been down :(
[22:37] <zabomber> hi guys. im running 11.10 64bit. my natilius? or folder browser now looks like this http://imagebin.org/195175 ??? this just happened overnight? how do i fix it?
[22:37] <arooni-mobile> hi folks;  running ubuntu 11.10 here.  when i try to connect to a wireless network for the first time (when i havent connected to it previously)... and i enter the wrong password; there seems to be *no way* to change the password if i got i t wrong the first time.  ubuntu keeps trying to reconnect with the wrong password
[22:37] <Slart> blkperl: there's nothing in "man interfaces" =
[22:37] <Slart> ?
[22:38] <blkperl> Slart: iface eth0 inet6 static doesn't seem to be working
[22:39] <Slart> blkperl: less /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz    might give you some ideas
[22:39] <jeremiah_> hi
[22:40] <blkperl> Slart: theres no ipv6 examples in that file :(
[22:40] <Slart> blkperl: oh.. it was much shorter than I expected..
[22:40] <Slart> my bad
[22:40] <cordyceps> install boot-repair fail. Here's the tail off the error msg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/815897/
[22:41] <Slart> blkperl: here's an example.. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-ipv6-networking-configuration/
[22:41] <ettore> hy
[22:42] <chuck> zabomber: try to change the gnome theme
[22:42] <DasEi> !ipv6 | blkperl
[22:43] <milehigh> Any idea what would cause ubuntu 10.04 to change it's RSA key randomly, sometimes every few hours, sometimes every few days? I'm on a static IP we are absolutely positive no one else is using, verified the problem exists with multiple different clients, changed to a different static IP, reinstalled openssh-server, and reverted to the default config with no change
[22:43] <douginho> Having some trouble with my wireless on 11.10
[22:44] <Corey> milehigh: When you say RSA key, are you referring to the RSA host key?
[22:44] <Corey> milehigh: For SSH, specifically.
[22:44] <milehigh> Corey: I think so, whenever we ssh into the system, it says the RSA key has changed
[22:45] <jeremiah_> cheapie: thank you for helping! I got it installed!!!
[22:45] <milehigh> not whenever, sometimes it works for a few sessions...
[22:45] <Corey> milehigh: ls -al /etc/ssh/ss_host_rsa* and note the modification times, are they recent?
[22:45] <Corey> Er
[22:45] <Corey> milehigh: ls -al /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa* even
[22:45] <milehigh> Corey: thanks, I'll check that tomorrow when I'm back on-site
[22:46] <milehigh> What would cause that though?
[22:46] <milehigh> I thought hte RSA host key was only generated during post-install of openssh-server
[22:47] <Slart> Is there any way of customizing the "recent documents" part of the unity application menu thingy? specifically pdfs and documents (libreoffice)
[22:47] <hexacode> what does the ws do in this command "sudo chmod -R g+ws /var/svn/$REPOS"?
[22:47] <Slart> hexacode: set write and setuid permissions, I think
[22:48] <Al_nz1> how would I stop just the tftp service on Ubuntu? It talks about stopping it via xinetd - but I am not sure if stopping it that way stops other services?
[22:48] <Slart> hexacode: it's all described in "man chmod"
[22:49] <cordyceps> install boot-repair fail. Here's the tail off the error msg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/815897/
[22:50] <jeremiah_> why do my videos that i watch on youtube chug?
[22:50] <MoDDD> hi all
[22:52] <blkperl> Slart: the example didn't work :S
[22:53] <douginho> Can I have some help please?
[22:53] <Slart> blkperl: have you checked the url to the ubuntu wiki? the one ubottu sent you
[22:54] <jeremiah_> why do my videos chug when i watch them?
[22:54] <Slart> douginho: just ask your entire question.. include what version of ubuntu you're running, what hardware you're using, if you're seeing error messages etc.. if you don't get any answers just repeat the question after 15 minutes or so
[22:55] <cordyceps> lubuntu-11.10 apt-get install boot-repair fail. Here's the tail off the error msg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/815897/
[22:55] <h00k> !ask | douginho
[22:55] <Slart> blkperl: I've never used ipv6 myself so I can't really help you other than point you towards existing howto's and such
[22:56] <jeremiah_> how do you install java/
[22:56] <jeremiah_> ?
[22:56] <douginho> I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 on a Dell Inspiron 6400. I ran some updates this evening and then shut down my computer. When I turned it back on, my wireless stopped working. The touchpad also stopped working for a bit but I got that to work...
[22:56] <Slart> !java | jeremiah_
[22:57] <DasEi> cordyceps: apt itself is fine? like apt-get autoremove -y && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade    throws no errors ?
[22:57] <cordyceps> yes, it's just this one (so far) pkg.
[22:57] <MoDDD> douginho: but now touchpad work?
[22:57] <douginho> Yes the touchpad is OK now
[22:57] <jeremiah_> so i just choose one?
[22:58] <blkperl> Slart: yeah the bot's link isn't that helpful either o.O
[22:58] <blkperl> Slart: if i add the ip addr manually it works, just cant get interfaces to cooperate
[22:58] <cordyceps> DasEi here's the page I'm following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1769482
[22:58] <DasEi> cordyceps: trying from a livecd ? samearchitecture ?? which distro are you using ?
[22:58] <cordyceps> lubuntu-11.10, like I said
[22:58] <MoDDD> douginho: on terminal write "rfkill list all".. what u see?
[22:58] <jeremiah_> so i just choose one?
[22:59] <Slart> blkperl: bah.. one of these days I'll have to setup a virtual ipv6 network just to play with.. until then I'm sorry I can't be of more assistance.. try asking the channel again. Perhaps someone else knows more
[22:59] <jeremiah_> hello?
[22:59] <Slart> jeremiah_: what do you want to do? why do you want to install java?
[23:00] <Slart> jeremiah_: you checked the link ubottu sent you?
[23:00] <jeremiah_> yes
[23:00] <jeremiah_> i want to install java
[23:00] <deper29> hey, I'm hoping someone can help me. I tried upgrading my ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.04 and now all I get is a black screen after the one where I choose my kernel
[23:01] <jeremiah_> and i never got one from ubottu
[23:01] <meowsus> Hey. I notice that when I pull, for example, a 60 gig folder from a Mac that i'm fixing onto my Ubuntu machine, the when I look at the properties of the folder the file size is right around 60 gigs, but the size on disk is, like, 480 gigs
[23:01] <meowsus> What is going on here?
[23:01] <DasEi> cordyceps: trying from a livecd ? same architecture ?? which distro are you using ?
[23:01] <Slart> !java > jeremiah_
[23:01] <DasEi> jeremiah_scroll little up,slart already triggered, you prbly want java sdk, again :
[23:02] <DasEi> !java
[23:02] <Chelsea> Hi all, Are there ppl here that allready tried the new Unity's HUD (cli) with Xmonad? It would seem like a perfect match.
[23:02] <psusi> meowsus, does the folder contain a million 1 byte files?
[23:02] <jk779> meowsus maybe you encrypted your home directory wit ecryptfs?
[23:02] <jeremiah_> now i got one.
[23:02] <deper29> is it possible to fix this error? or to go back to 10.10 or 10.04 but keep my data? anyone?
[23:03] <Slart> deper29: I've seen that error mentioned before.. I can't really remember the fix for it though
[23:04] <Slart> deper29: does this help in any way? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/ubuntu-11-10-black-screen-after-boot-screen-908044/
[23:04] <deper29> Slart: I'll take a look :)
[23:04] <deper29> thanks a bunch
[23:05] <Slart> deper29: and just to give you some good news.. your data is probably ok.. just the system that won't start up properly.. if you boot from an install cd you'll be able to access all your files and such
[23:05] <MoDDD> deper29: with a live cd u can reach all your file
[23:06] <deper29> Slart: I can't boot into recovery at all :/ i can press c for command line(which is very limited) or e for edit
[23:06] <deper29> MoDDD: if I mount the harddrive that my data is on, I should be able to access it, correct?
[23:06] <Slart> deper29: hmm.. and no errors, even when you choose recovery? just a black screen? tried pressing CTRL+ALT+F1 ?
[23:06] <DasEi> deper29: sudo init 1 from terminal ?
[23:06] <aguitel> how enable 3D with nouveau drivers ?
[23:07] <MoDDD> deper29: yes
[23:07] <deper29> it runs a bunch of checks on my system, then stops
[23:07] <deper29> DasEi: I can't get into a terminal
[23:07] <Slart> deper29: you don't get a menu where you can chose all kinds of repair stuff?
[23:07] <amaroks> Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
[23:07] <amaroks> but this time No Lock file ,not parent lock file
[23:07] <amaroks> any idea??
[23:07] <deper29> I can try CTRL+ALT+F1
[23:07] <urlin2u> amaroks, in the terminal killall firefox wil close it
[23:08] <MoDDD> amarkos: terminal -> ps -aux | grep firefox and kill firefox process
[23:08] <deper29> I have to reboot to do this, so I will disappear
[23:08] <Slart> deper29: we'll be here when you get back
[23:09] <deper29> is there anything else I can do after that?
[23:09] <dennie> join #creuna
[23:09] <Slart> deper29: any kind of text on your screen would be a good indication
[23:09] <razilla> Ubuntu log in will not accept my password, is tere a fix?
[23:09] <amaroks> how do I kill? urlin2u
[23:09] <darkcrimson> Hello, all
[23:09] <blkperl> Slart: i used an up/down hack, which is working, but probably not the correct way
[23:09] <urlin2u> amaroks, killall firefox     in the terminal
[23:09] <amaroks> okay didn't do it
[23:10] <Slart> deper29: the first step would be to get to a terminal prompt.. then we can try working from there
[23:10] <amaroks> still gives the same message
[23:10] <MoDDD> amaroks: no you have to kill the pid of the firefox process
[23:10] <Slart> blkperl: hopefully they will expand the ipv6 wiki article as it gets more common
[23:10] <amaroks> How do I know the process ID?
[23:10] <acerimmer> amaroks: ps -x in the terminal
[23:11] <thomedy> okay i have a wireless connection everywhere but my inlaws house which is where i m at righ tnow
[23:11] <amaroks> its not in there
[23:11] <urlin2u> amaroks, maybe be several instances, I use htop which you have to install there is a search f3 and kill, look at the bottom bar for the f commands, but as you see there are multiple ways.
[23:11] <thomedy> i really need to get work done and i cant
[23:11] <MoDDD> amaroks: try type in the terminal ps -aux | grep firefox and u see in the first number u read is the pid of the process
[23:12] <thomedy> i think its the wpa supplicant but i have followed 2 tutorials that have not gotten me there
[23:12] <thomedy> i am running 11.1
[23:12] <amaroks> MoDDD: bash: kill: (2985) - No such process
[23:12] <reggal> Is anyone else participating in the newest Anonymous facebook DDoS attacks?
[23:12] <reggal> how do i run loic in linux
[23:12] <reggal> can I compile it somehow using mono
[23:12] <thomedy> what is ddos
[23:13] <Slart> reggal: wrong channel.. just plain wrong..
[23:13] <reggal> loic is the program they tell you to download to take part in the DDoS
[23:13] <reggal> why I'm using ubuntu
[23:13] <DasEi> !support
[23:13] <MoDDD> amarocks: try kill -9 PID
[23:13] <hiddensoul> reggal, really off topic
[23:13] <acerimmer> !ot|reggal
[23:13] <amaroks> same thing
[23:13] <urlin2u> thomedy, you seeing the connection right? post the link to the instructions you have used.
[23:13] <reggal> no it's not, I'm trying to get a program to run for the upcoming Facebook.com DDoS
[23:13] <reggal> ok I'll join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:13] <Slart> reggal: channel policy is pretty clear on borderline shady stuff.. no piracy, cracking and son.. certainly no ddosing
[23:14] <thomedy> i would have to find them again but i followd the link from ubuntuforum and help.ubuntu
[23:14] <thomedy> and i do see the connection when i iwlist sccan and jus tin my gui as well
[23:14] <MoDDD> amaroks: strange.. seems to be u have no firefox process running.. u can't open now??
[23:14] <urlin2u> thomedy, you sure it is wpa?
[23:14] <thomedy> i dont know enough to be sure of anything i only think
[23:15] <amaroks> Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[23:15] <amaroks> mody      3119  0.0  0.0   4444   796 pts/1    S+   01:14   0:00 grep --color=auto firefox
[23:15] <reggal> thomedy: A DDoS attack is taking many people's computers and doing an IP traffic TCP/IP flood against a single website to take it offline
[23:15] <amaroks> the first number changes everytime i run the ps aux ....
[23:15] <thomedy> .okay thankyou that sounds mean but whatever
[23:15] <MoDDD> amaroks: ok.. now try open again firefox
[23:15] <em> So i did a full-upgrade on Lucid and when i restarted i get no video. I am now back on it in 'safe-graphics mode' are there any ideas for how i might recover my full graphics?
[23:15] <amaroks> MoDDD Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
[23:16] <hiddensoul> thomedy, not only mean but in most cases illegal
[23:16] <thomedy> and mean
[23:16] <thomedy> jk fortunately for me i just want to fix  my issue
[23:16] <urlin2u> thomedy, try a wep and a wpa personal you can right click the wireless icon and edit the password and type.
[23:16] <Slart> em: what kind of graphics card are you using? tried reinstalling binary drivers?
[23:17] <razilla> nklj[pokaW
[23:17] <phibxr> amaroks: did you try 'killall -9 firefox' and 'killall -9 firefox-bin'?
[23:17] <douginho> MoDDD: dell-wifi: Wireless LAN
[23:17] <douginho> 	Soft blocked: yes
[23:17] <douginho> 	Hard blocked: yes
[23:17] <urlin2u> razilla, you might change the password.
[23:18] <thomedy> andi do know that i can do taht but when you say try a wep anda wpa personal what exactly do you mean
[23:18] <razilla> ow my
[23:18] <thomedy> i have checked the pass and its good
[23:18] <amaroks> Yes none worked phibxr
[23:18] <phibxr> amaroks: ah. :/
[23:18] <amaroks> I will try to reboot
[23:18] <amaroks> hope it fixes it
[23:19] <phibxr> amaroks: check this: http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Firefox%20is%20already%20running%20but%20is%20not%20responding
[23:19] <razilla> h0w. my h key dont work sorry
[23:19] <deper29> hey, I'm back
[23:19] <urlin2u> thomedy, if you right click the wireless icon then edit it opens the gui for this click on wireless and you will see any you have set up, you can edit it, there is a dropdown for types of keys wep is one type wpa personal is another.
[23:20] <Slart> deper29: any progress?
[23:20] <urlin2u> !wireless | ThomasBoxley
[23:20] <deper29> I booted up my netbook so I could talk to you guys at the same time
[23:20] <razilla> how chage pass?
[23:20] <deper29> giving it a shot right now
[23:20] <urlin2u> !wireless > thomedy
[23:20] <thomedy> so i will click on my icon and try to find that one sec and ill also look at the pm
[23:20] <Slart> deper29: here's what it's supposed to look like when you boot the recovery mode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPsyHQQ8rks
[23:20] <urlin2u> razilla, that your computer or xchat pass
[23:21] <amaroks> sorry guys, I forgot that the profile folder is on another partition (windows) and I had to delete .parentlock from there instead of .mozilla
[23:21] <em> i think that my X is borked somehow. When i do startx from the command line the screen just goes black.
[23:21] <douginho> MoDDD: Here's what came up from the rfkill list dell-wifi: Wireless LAN
[23:21] <douginho> 	Soft blocked: yes
[23:21] <ThomasBoxley> urlin2u, I think you had the wrong person :p
[23:21] <em> any ideas?
[23:21] <douginho> 	Hard blocked: yes
[23:21] <razilla> ubuntu lo in admin pass?
[23:21] <razilla> lo in
[23:21] <MoDDD> amaroks:no problem :)
[23:21] <urlin2u> ThomasBoxley, yeah sorry about that. :D
[23:21] <thomedy> ubottu i am actualaly pretty sure that is one of the docs/tuts i read and followed
[23:22] <urlin2u> razilla, passwd   in the terminal will ask for the original and then a new one with a confirmation.
[23:22] <MoDDD> douginho: try type rfkill unblock all and then rfkill list all
[23:22] <thomedy> okay no w im dumb
[23:22] <razilla> my key board is o
[23:22] <razilla> my key board is messed sorry
[23:22] <douginho> MoDDD: Same thing
[23:22] <Pantherking> hey everyone, need some help. I'm running ubuntu off a usb drive in hopes to back up some data from a fucked hard drive before i attempt to reformat but i cant get my external HDD to mount
[23:22] <urlin2u> !wireless> urlin2u
[23:22] <deper29> Slart: I'm in recovery
[23:23] <Slart> deper29: you got to the menu?
[23:23] <deper29> yup
[23:23] <deper29> now what should I do?
[23:23] <MoDDD> douginho:ok.. u have to try to unload and reload the wirless driver
[23:24] <Slart> deper29: hehe, hang on.. have to check what the original problem was.. .. ah. black screen
[23:24] <deper29> lol, k
[23:24] <Slart> deper29: try typing this into the terminal.. "apt-get install -f"
[23:24] <razilla> so what do i enter in terminal urlin2u?
[23:24] <reggal> does anyone know a good port scanner FASTER than SuperScan
[23:24] <reggal> I know nmap is really slow
[23:25] <deper29> so I want to go intoa  root prompt shell?
[23:25] <urlin2u> razilla, passwd    ten put the original it will then ask for the new one then a confirm of the ne one.
[23:25] <Slart> deper29: what kind of graphics card are you using?
[23:25] <urlin2u> then
[23:25] <Slart> deper29: yes, root shell
[23:25] <reggal> I mean I can configure stuff
[23:25] <deper29> don't hate me, but Nvidia
[23:25] <reggal> I mean I can configure proxyhunter.exe to scan, but it doesn't record host responses
[23:25] <razilla> urlin2u, exact command please?
[23:25] <reggal> Damn rubbity jibbs
[23:25] <urlin2u> razilla, passwd
[23:25] <reggal> won't answer!
[23:25] <reggal> RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
[23:25] <FloodBot1> reggal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:26] <deper29> Slart: It didn't install anything
[23:26] <Slart> deper29: why should I hate you? =) nvidia.. I wonder if the new nvidia driver has messed something up
[23:26] <razilla> sudo passwd old new?
[23:26] <urlin2u> razilla, no   passwd      that is all
[23:26] <Slart> deper29: try this    "apt-get install nvidia-current"
[23:26] <deper29> kk
[23:27] <urlin2u> razilla, just   passwd and read the terminal
[23:27] <deper29> it's installing
[23:27] <Pantherking> hello anyone?
[23:28] <urlin2u> !hello | Pantherking
[23:28] <Slart> deper29: when it's done you can try typing just "exit".. and then reboot and see if things have improved
[23:28] <urlin2u> Pantherking, state your problem.
[23:28] <MoDDD> hello Pantherking
[23:28] <Pantherking>  I'm running ubuntu off a usb drive in hopes to back up some data from a fucked hard drive before i attempt to reformat but i cant get my external HDD to mount
[23:29] <BarkingFish> !language | Pantherking
[23:29] <urlin2u> !language > Pantherking
[23:29] <razilla> jki879
[23:29] <razilla> jki879
[23:29] <thomedy> is there a way i can figure out whether im wpa or wep
[23:30] <Fujk> so can an expert tell me why I have 4% packet loss on my newly bought intel PCI card? same shit with the onboard card, ubuntu is broken seriously. works 100% in windows 7
[23:30] <xaashi> hi anyone familiar with building xen dom0 kernels, the hypervisor doesnt seem to want to load any of the kernels i build .. and freezes at point of loading the kernel
[23:30] <blkperl> Slart: works in oneiric, doesn't work in lucid
[23:30] <xaashi> see http://pastebin.com/PRtwaEeM
[23:30] <deper29> Slart: it is installed now
[23:30] <IdleWarship> Where can I find the scripts that flick on/off my webcam - diagnostically, I suspect - during startup?
[23:31] <Slart> blkperl: that's odd.. I would have thought these things would look the same no matter what version
[23:31] <Slart> deper29: ok, type exit and reboot
[23:31] <deper29> kk
[23:31] <blkperl> Slart: maybe lucid isn't ipv6 ready :P
[23:31] <deper29> I'll give that a shot
[23:31] <shovell> trying to run a game under wine and am having issues would any of you be willing to help?
[23:32] <Slart> blkperl: hehe.. that would just be great.. LTS release and no ipv6 =)
[23:32] <Slart> shovell: tried asking in #winehq? that is the official channel for wine support
[23:32] <shovell> will do thank you
[23:32] <Slart> shovell: you can ask here too, if you want, but I think you'll get better answers in there
[23:34] <shovell> well first thing i ran  wine with >logfile 1&2 or something like that where would i find the log?
[23:34] <deper29> Slart: doesn't seem to be working. I have a dark screen with a blac border
[23:34] <Pantherking> anyone can help mounting a usb hdd?
[23:34] <Slart> deper29: ok.. back into recovery mode
[23:34] <Fujk> so can an expert tell me why I have 4% packet loss and get disconnected on a regular basis on my newly bought intel PCI card? same shit with the onboard card, ubuntu is broken seriously. works 100% in windows 7
[23:34] <Slart> deper29: there are some more tricks we can try
[23:34] <hiddensoul> Pantherking, it should just mount when you plug it in
[23:34] <acerimmer> !language|fujk
[23:35] <Pantherking> but it doesnt
[23:35] <IdleWarship> I'd like to alter my webcam's config to somehow store a single frame every time it's activated.
[23:35] <deper29> okay :)
[23:35] <Fujk> yeah I would be calm if Ubuntu didnt waste my  $30  on a new network card that doesnt work
[23:35] <Slart> deper29: do you have a working network connection when you're in that root shell?
[23:35] <ekaleido> if i wanted to use sysctl to gauge bits or bytes output on a given nic, which arguments to sysctl might i find useful?
[23:36] <hiddensoul> Pantherking, try this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[23:36] <Pantherking> looked through it and none work
[23:36] <deper29> yeah
[23:36] <urlin2u> Fujk, there is a wiki that tells you what ones known to work.
[23:36] <shovell> well that was interesting
[23:36] <acerimmer> Fujk: ubuntu doesn't make the hardware drivers.
[23:36] <deper29> I was able to download that nvidia driver
[23:36] <hiddensoul> is the USB HDD powered by USB or an external powersupply ?
[23:37] <Slart> deper29: great.. lets install a little utility that posts files to the pastebin.. so we can see some log files
[23:37] <OerHeks> Fujk, how do you know windows has no packet loss ?
[23:37] <Pantherking> external, fdisk -l returns it showing up thrice, sdh sda and sdb
[23:37] <deper29> okay
[23:37] <deper29> I shoud reboot back itno recovery root shell?
[23:37] <Fujk> OerHeks: because I ran a ping test for 30 mins and connected to IRC via mirc
[23:37] <urlin2u> deper29, please use the nic your talking top tab will autocomplete the nic. :D
[23:37] <urlin2u> to*
[23:37] <Fujk> OerHeks: when I do the same in ubuntu I get disconnected on a regular absis and packet loss
[23:37] <Slart> deper29: yes
[23:38] <Slart> deper29: back to that root shell
[23:38] <Yb8022> So I have Ubuntu Server 11.10 installed and I'm just wondering about a minor nuissance, why after logging in does it hang for about 2 seconds before actually getting me in? Specifically after this "Last login: Wed Jan 25 01:32:14 2012 from <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:38] <Yb8022> - 3 second HANG -
[23:38] <Yb8022> bob@ro-ISP:~$
[23:38] <deper29> urlin2u: what do you mean?
[23:38] <MoDDD> Pantherking: try plug in your usb HDD and in the terminal type mount.. u find some as like /dev/sdc1?
[23:38] <Fujk> OerHeks: like now
[23:39] <Slart> Yb8022: I have the same problem.. it's really annoying.. let me know if you find anything
[23:39] <urlin2u> deper29, what you just did when you are talking with a person use their nic, the channel is busy and it helps a great deal. :D
[23:39] <reggal> damn
[23:39] <Pantherking> the ntfs signature is missing when i try that
[23:39] <reggal> anyway, since I can't talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:39] <reggal> Is this for real: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2012/01/anonymous-no-we-wont-attack-facebook-jan-28.html
[23:39] <reggal> I mean is the anonymous DDoS on Facebook real or fake
[23:39] <meowsus> Sorry, walked away from my computer. I've run into this issue a few times. When I'm backing up peoples files from their Windows or Mac computers onto my machine, I've noticed that the preferences for the folder (in Ubuntu) show that a folder that is 60gigs shows up as 60gigs for it's actual size, but the size on disk is way higher, like 500gigs or so. What could be causing this? And is there anyway to compress that back down
[23:39] <meowsus>  to be the correct size again?
[23:39] <reggal> I"m building up shells to take it down
[23:39] <reggal> so is it real
[23:39] <ninjai> Question: If I do a dist upgrade and it says "mysql-server-5.0" is being removed, am I going to lose my databases too or will I still have my databases?
[23:39] <FloodBot1> reggal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:39] <reggal> Slaggy mc pit street.  Hustler hova heeva Chickova heeva ova heeva.  Braxalarian blalalxrals.  snuggity rab rab rabbits.  Snuggies aren't selling anymore.  most people don't know what a "snuggie" is.  Halla micka wheel wyaujtkchtpt.
[23:39] <OerHeks> reggal, stop it please
[23:40] <deper29> Slart: Now recovery doesn't want to wor
[23:40] <urlin2u> meowsus, how are you doing the back up?
[23:40] <Slart> deper29: huh? but it worked before, right?
[23:40] <shovell> well first thing i ran  wine with >logfile 2>&1 or something like that where would i find the log?
[23:41] <deper29> Slart: it said "loading initial ramdisk ..." and just hangs there. Yes, it worked before
[23:41] <Pantherking> "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb /media/fantom" returns NTFS signature is missing. Failed to mount '/dev/sdb': Invalid argument The device '/dev/sdb' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[23:41] <Slart> deper29: try shutting the computer off totally.. wait 10 secs and then turn it on again
[23:41] <shovell> aaah nevermind
[23:41] <Slart> Pantherking: sure you want /dev/sdb and not /dev/sdb1 ?
[23:42] <Pantherking> i've tried both. tried sda1, sda, sdb1, sdb, sdh1, sdh
[23:42] <ekaleido> if i wanted to use sysctl to gauge bits or bytes output on a given nic, which arguments to sysctl might i find useful?
[23:43] <urlin2u> Pantherking, you need the partition number, if it has one.
[23:43] <gh0zt> I'm not having any luck getting my Linksys AE 2500 USB adapter to be recognized in Ubuntu.  I found some online help, but it did not work and I think the reason why is because the guy who got it running used Windows XP drivers, and he got it working in the 32 bit version of Ubuntu.
[23:44] <deper29> Slart: I'm at a root promp
[23:44] <MoDDD> Pantherking: take a look here http://askubuntu.com/questions/85487/unable-to-mount-external-usb-hard-drive and also here http://thenubbyadmin.com/2011/03/08/getting-a-stubborn-ntfs-drive-to-mount-in-linux-was-this-trip-really-necessary/ if u find some can u help u
[23:44] <Slart> deper29: it worked now? perhaps you have to do the total shutdown for it to work...
[23:44] <urlin2u> Pantherking, the disc utility will mountbpartitions as well gparted, look at the usb with gparted and see if there is a ntfs.
[23:44] <Slart> deper29: ok.. first thing we're going to try is to disable the xorg.conf
[23:44] <dagerik> What does this do? echo -e "\c"
[23:45] <Slart> deper29: but lets start looking at some logs
[23:45] <deper29> Slart: okay, how so?
[23:45] <Slart> deper29: apt-get install pastebinit
[23:45] <Slart> deper29: that will install an application that will take a file and send it to a pastebin..which is just a website where you can post text and let others see it
[23:46] <deper29> Slart: okay, it's installed
[23:46] <Slart> deper29: ok.. try this    pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:46] <Slart> deper29: it will print out a link to the webpage where that file will be posted
[23:47] <Slart> deper29: it's a log that is created when X triest to start.. it will contain some info on what graphics card you've got.. which resolutions it tries and so on
[23:48] <kirby92> I need help getting my wireless network card to work.
[23:48] <deper29> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/815955
[23:48] <meowsus> urlin2u, just copy over a network. Say it's their My Photos directory, I'd just copy it over to my desktop, or whatever.
[23:49] <Slart> deper29: ok, check line 134.. that might be what's wrong
[23:50] <urlin2u> meowsus, your description is convoluted, your getting the actual size of the transfer, why would the 500 gigs be a factor?
[23:50] <deper29> Slart: how do I fix that?
[23:50] <Slart> deper29: when you installed the nvidia-current package.. did you get any errors?
[23:50] <gh0zt> kirby92: same here.  I have a linksys AE 2500 usb network adapter and i cannot find any drivers for it.
[23:50] <tippenein> having problems with network manager losing connection every 20 seconds or so.  added "auto wlan0 \n iface wlan0 inet dhcp" to /etc/network/interfaces, because wireless wasn't working at all, but now...
[23:51] <urlin2u> meowsus, or I'm reading it wrong just trying to understand
[23:51] <deper29> Slart: I didn't see any
[23:52] <Slart> deper29: try running this in the root shell "modprobe nvidia"
[23:52] <mega1> how do i create a shared folder on ubuntu server 11.10 and be able to be see by windows
[23:52] <kirby92> I've installed the b43legacy wireless driver and my wireless card still will not work.
[23:52] <meowsus> urlin2u, I'm saying that once I get the folder on my desktop, if I right-click on it and select "Properties" to see how big it is, the actual size is correct (for example: 60gigs) but the "size on disk" size is ridiculously bigger. For example, I should be able to put that 60gig folder on my 250gig external hard drive, but I cant because the size on disk is way larger (for example: 500gigs)
[23:53] <deper29> Slart: nothing happened
[23:53] <shovell> the game is startrek armada 2 and i have tried a few things that the appdb suggested but i get this  a list of errors that i dont understandhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/815952/ is the output
[23:53] <arooni-mobile> hi folks;  running ubuntu 11.10 here.  when i try to connect to a wireless network for the first time (when i havent connected to it previously)... and i enter the wrong password; there seems to be *no way* to change the password if i got i t wrong the first time.  ubuntu keeps trying to reconnect with the wrong password
[23:53] <MoDDD> kirby92: type in the terminal rfkill list all and say what u see
[23:53] <shovell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/815952/ oops sorry
[23:53] <urlin2u> meowsus, ah thanks, not sure there really.
[23:54] <Slart> deper29: hmm.. I wonder why it's not working... nvidia is usually quite easy to work with
[23:54] <Saryniti> Hi I'm installing 11.10 32bit on a usb drive. After I ran an upgrade I got an errore that the new linux image wasn't successfullyt updated. Now it requires me to login with the only option being "Other" and to manually type a username and password but none were created in the installation. This is my second attempt and both have failed following an upgrade. Any ideas? Thanks.
[23:54] <Fujk> Ubuntu hurts my soul and I want to cry in my sleep
[23:54] <Slart> deper29: ok.. back to basics.. in the root shell... "apt-get purge nvidia-current nvidia-current-updates"
[23:54] <Slart> deper29: that will remove the nvidia driver
[23:54] <kirby92> 0: hci0: Bluetooth 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: no 1: phy0: Wireless LAN 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: yes
[23:55] <deper29> Slart: unable to locate package nvidia-current-updates
[23:55] <Darkfrost> Been a week now, still can't get Wi-Fi working D:
[23:56] <Slart> deper29: ok, just uninstall the first one then
[23:56] <Slart> deper29: "apt-get purge nvidia-current"
[23:56] <urlin2u> kirby92, please tab complete the nic of who your addressing or type it.
[23:56] <deper29> Slart: how?
[23:56] <myk_robinson> genewitch: Me again, not sure if my last message went out, I had a connection problem.
[23:56] <deper29> Slart: oh, I see.
[23:56] <myk_robinson> genewitch: anyway, if I recall, did you say that RATE in the power thing is a measurement of how much power I am actively using?
[23:57] <deper29> Slart: done
[23:57] <urlin2u> Darkfrost, you know the card is it a broadcom?
[23:57] <Slart> deper29: and then we install it again.. "apt-get install nvidia-current"
[23:57] <Gentoo64> kirby92: i think that means if its a laptop, either the wireless switch is off, or you need to turn it on with the fn shortcut key
[23:57] <kirby92> urlin2u: not sure what you mean
[23:57] <Darkfrost> Yeah, BCM4312
[23:57] <Gentoo64> kirby92: i dont know much about wireless though
[23:58] <Darkfrost> rfkill list always shows Hard blocked, no matter what I do :-/ Tried wl and b43
[23:58] <kirby92> It's a desktop
[23:58] <myk_robinson> genewitch: if so, I got it down from about 22W to 7.5 and its still working as normal. Charging the battery now to give it a discharge test in a bit. Thanks for your tips
[23:58] <gh0zt> gentoo: do you know anyone who has had any luck getting the Linksys AE 2500 usb network adapter working in ubuntu 11.10?
[23:58] <urlin2u> kirby92, the card is a type, run this command and post what it is  lspci | grep -i wireless
[23:58] <Slart> deper29: and last but not least..       mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[23:59] <Gentoo64> gh0zt: no idea
[23:59] <kirby92> urlin2u: 05:05.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4303 802.11b Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[23:59] <deper29> Slart: all installed, just renaming that file