[21:10] <JetJaguar> pythonirc101  What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[21:10] <Deltatash> lol after all that JetJaguar and the settings the command was supposed to do didnt do anything to my VM xD still stuck on a low resolution xD
[21:10] <Jragon> xangua, I get: http://pastebin.com/HwX4a5Du at the end :S
[21:10] <pythonirc101> 11.04
[21:10] <tonyyarusso> jason00: Banshee will work with most models of iPods very similarly to what iTunes can do for them.
[21:10] <tonyyarusso> (Music only - not apps and such)
[21:10] <jason00> xangua: I'm not asking how to manage it. I know rhythmbox, clementine, banshee, etc can manage it.  I'm just not seeing how. At the moment I'm in rhythmbox.
[21:11] <Toph2> i'm running 11.10. How do I get to my desltop with one click?
[21:11] <tonyyarusso> jason00: Copy?  Drag and drop?
[21:11] <xangua> jason00: there is an ubuntu one client for iOS, there is also dropbox
[21:11] <jutnux> Toph2: Cntrl + Alt + D
[21:11] <xangua> Ubuntu One*
[21:11] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  Can you change the resolution in the actual VM?
[21:11] <jason00> xangua: do you understand what I am asking?
[21:11] <Deltatash> nope
[21:11] <pythonirc101> JetJaguar: 11.04. Any ideas ?
[21:12] <Jragon> xangua, when I do apt-get install adobe-flashplugin I get http://pastebin.com/QMT7UiEV
[21:12] <Toph2> jutnux,,, thanks,, that does it
[21:12] <jason00> xangua: I have an ipod. With music. I also have an ubuntu system with NO music. I want to synchronize that ipod with ubuntu so all of the ipod contents are now accessible on my ubuntu system. Dropbox and ubuntu one would not help me.
[21:12] <xangua> Jragon: that is just a error message of a repository with no packages candidats for oneiric
[21:12] <JetJaguar> pythonirc101  Desktop or server?
[21:12] <jutnux> Jragon: Download it from the adobe website.
[21:12] <Deltatash> it only shows one resolution lol, tried editing the com.apple.Boot.plist didnt work so i tried that command i showed you still no luck xD
[21:12] <pythonirc101> JetJaguar: desktop i think, how can i tell?
[21:12] <elotro> jason00: i know there is ubuntuone app for android
[21:13] <jason00> elotro: djfla;sdjflkasdflkasjfls
[21:13] <jason00> That's not what I'm asking.
[21:13] <jason00> In no way shape or form will ubuntu one or drop box help me.
[21:13] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  Strange...  I can change resolution in a Windows VM.  Haven't done a Mac one.
[21:13] <jutnux> jason00: Try banshee, I think that's what it is called.
[21:13] <xangua> there is also Ubuntu One Music jason00
[21:13] <jason00> jutnux: I'm in rhythmbox at the moment. I was in banshee earlier. I just couldn't see how I could draw the music off.
[21:13] <JetJaguar> pythonirc101  Did you do the install or did someone else?
[21:13] <jason00> xangua: that. will. not. work.
[21:13] <jason00> xangua: I'll say it again. That won't work.
[21:14] <pythonirc101> JetJaguar: someone else
[21:14] <jason00> xangua: ubuntu one, dropbox, all of that will not do what I am trying to do.
[21:14] <Deltatash> yeah, mac one is a little restricted I think :/ it was a bit dodgy for me to get it installed need to start the vm with a .iso boot loader to start it or OS X wont load
[21:14] <jason00> I think I just figured it out??
[21:14] <JetJaguar> pythonirc101  Well if that person installed Ubuntu Server then it doesn't come with a "desktop".  Only the command line.
[21:14] <Deltatash> i mean it works its just a little annoying to not have a full screen got 2 black bars down each side lol
[21:15] <zykotick9> jason00, i'm under (possible incorrectly) the assumption that iPods where designed to prevent what you are trying to do (get the music off).  Good luck.
[21:15] <jason00> zykotick9: I'm not dealing with music, which is where it's frustrating.
[21:15] <pythonirc101> JetJaguar: I can do startx and get a nice gnome desktop
[21:15] <jason00> zykotick9: I work for a school district, and we have purchased site-licensed audio books for students.
[21:15] <JetJaguar> Deltatash,  that's annoying.
[21:15] <jutnux> I really, really like Unity to be honest.
[21:15] <jason00> zykotick9: we bought a few more ipods, so now I need to populate their library with the same contents as the other ipods.
[21:15] <thopiekar> hi.. can you help getting this problem solved? We are using these packaging files lp:~maliit-team/+junk/maliit-framework-debian to package lp:~maliit-team/maliit/maliit-framework and we want to make them compatible to oneiric and natty while oneiric has multi-arch support and paths for the install files differ.. how can I make the debian files work on both releases?
[21:15] <Deltatash> I thought I would try that same command again but with "sudo" at the begining see if it makes a difference
[21:15] <xangua> jason00: Ubuntu One Music says it can sync songs with no DRM https://one.ubuntu.com/downloads/iphone/
[21:15] <jason00> jutnux: if you like unity, you'll love gnome shell. :P
[21:16] <Deltatash> but adding sudo gives me the error again saying it cant find a registered vm name xD
[21:16] <jutnux> I HATE gnome-shell.
[21:16] <Jragon> Arrggg! I can't get Flash installed!
[21:16] <JetJaguar> pythonirc101  Strange, by default, the desktop starts at bootup...
[21:16] <jason00> xangua: thanks, but that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm just trying to draw the files off of the ipod and onto my ubuntu system. How will my ipod connect to ubuntu one? There's no way for that.
[21:16] <jutnux> Too buggy in my opinion
[21:16] <jason00> jutnux: I did too when I started using it.
[21:16] <jason00> jutnux: the more I use it, the more I love it.
[21:16] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  That may do it.
[21:16] <jason00> jutnux: if you think gnome shell is buggy, I wonder how you can tolerate unity. :P They're both young and after some updates thye'll both be beautiful and functional. But Unity has quite a bit longer to go yet in my opinion.
[21:17] <jason00> zykotick9: I think I figured it out by a simple CTRL+A and drag/drop to the Music folder within Rhythmbox. Durp....
[21:17] <jutnux> I guess, but I do love UNity.
[21:17] <jutnux> Increases my work flow by loads.
[21:17] <Deltatash> yeah just cant get it to work with sudo
[21:17] <jason00> jutnux: mine too.
[21:17] <Deltatash> VBoxManage: error: Could not find a registered machine named 'MacOSX' comes back if i add sudo
[21:17] <jason00> jutnux: I like having options, ya know? Gnome shell and unity can co-exist so nicely together on 11.10 being both GTK3 based.
[21:17] <jutnux> Umhm
[21:17] <jason00> jutnux: it's nice just installing them and switching between interchangably.
[21:18] <d3f4c3d> Dynamips listens on IPV6 after replacing new NIC's - anyone help ?
[21:18] <jutnux> I guess I don't mind Gnome-shell if I customise it loads
[21:18] <xangua> jason00: then just use gtkpod to export all the data from your ipod
[21:18] <jutnux> the default look is absolutely disgusting thoug
[21:18] <jason00> jutnux: It's just... I treat Unity like Internet Explorer right now.
[21:18] <jason00> jutnux: In Windows, I use IE to download Chrome or Firefox. In Ubuntu, I use Unity to download Gnome Shell. :D
[21:18] <Jragon> Please help me!
[21:18] <jutnux> jason00: I don't have IE installed anywhere :')
[21:18] <jason00> jutnux: lol it's actually not that bad, just messing. they're both really good.
[21:18] <jason00> jutnux: nor do I, but that was the best analogy I had. :D
[21:18] <jutnux> Jragon: Download it from the software center!
[21:18] <jason00> jutnux: since, after all, everybody knows IE as the universal alternative browser downloader.
[21:19] <jutnux> jason00: Two conflicting opinions and a constructive argument. Much better than what usually happens ;)
[21:19] <harvey_> having issues with a WN311B pci card, trying to get it to install. i have the broadcom drivers but i can't install them because dkms isn't installed and i can't install dkms for some reason saying "Dependency is not satisfiable: patch"
[21:19] <Jragon> I've tried but it gives me some error saying, these programmes must be uninstalled to continue...
[21:19] <jutnux> There was actually an article on Mashable (I think) called "Rename IE to Chrome/Firefox downloader"
[21:19] <jason00> harvey_: can you install patch?
[21:19] <jason00> jutnux: that's a very accurate (and fair) name for it in my opinion...
[21:20] <scorinitron> agreed
[21:20] <Jragon> Please can someone help
[21:20] <harvey_> jason00: i'm not sure what "patch" is and no idea how to get it
[21:20] <Jonii> Whats the most lightweight mp3 player for ubuntu?
[21:20] <jutnux> Agreed.
[21:20] <jason00> harvey_: I'm not sure either. my first thought was to run sudo apt-get install patch and see what happens.
[21:20] <xangua> Jragon: if you would share all the output instead of just the last few lines
[21:20] <jason00> harvey_: I can't say hat'll fix it, it was just my first thought.
[21:20] <JetJaguar> XFCE RULES!
[21:21] <scorinitron> xfce?
[21:21] <Deltatash> anyone have any idea why "VBoxManage setextradata MacOSX “CustomVideoMode1″ “1280×800×32”" seems to work but as soon as I add sudo to the beginning I get VBoxManage: error: Could not find a registered machine named 'Mac OS X'
[21:21] <zykotick9> Jonii, there are a number of cli apps that play MP3s - can't get more lightweight then that
[21:21] <harvey_> jason00: can't connect to the internet with that computer, how is apt-get going to find me anything?
[21:21] <rebecca> hello?
[21:21] <jason00> harvey_: well yeah that'll be an issue. I wasn't aware you were connection-less.
[21:21] <rebecca> hello?
[21:21] <JetJaguar> Hello Rebecca
[21:21] <jason00> harvey_: I thought there was a resource online to download repo packages from other computers as a file, then flash-drive htem over, but I'm not sure....
[21:21] <harvey_> jason00: with that PC yes, my windows PC works just fine =P
[21:21] <Deltatash> using Ubuntu 10.4 with Oracle VM VirtualBox 4.1
[21:22] <scorinitron> OMG XFCE Looks Awesome^^
[21:22] <Jragon> Okay
[21:22] <scorinitron> Downloading it now ^^
[21:22] <jutnux> Unity is still sexier ;)
[21:22] <jason00> we use XFCE here at work.
[21:22] <jason00> It's great.
[21:22] <jutnux> I used to use XFCE
[21:22] <jason00> Unity would never survive here. It's too fat for some of our low powered machines.
[21:22] <jutnux> switched back to Unity here
[21:22] <jutnux> I have XFCE on a rubbish laptop
[21:22] <surfdue> What is the S flag in chmod
[21:22] <harvey_> jason00: i have the broadcom/dkms files on an external but if i could figure out what "patch" was then i would just download and transfer it
[21:22] <jutnux> and installed LFDE (I think) on one of my mates pcs
[21:22] <jason00> jutnux: tried lxde yet? It's even lighter than XFCE
[21:23] <jason00> jutnux: lxde makes 10 year old computers purrr
[21:23] <jason00> harvey_: I'm not too sure then bro. :( I just figured I'd fire out that thought in case it would help.
[21:23] <Jragon> xangua, http://pastebin.com/5v2hk7zz
[21:23] <JetJaguar> Using Lubuntu on this computer...  lol
[21:23] <scorinitron> Unity uses too much resources I'm stuck on it and have been looking for something more light weight
[21:23] <jason00> harvey_: is this a wireless system?
[21:23] <harvey_> jason00: going to assume the only way i can do this is with a 50ft cat5 and just directly connect lol
[21:23] <jutnux> Jason00: Umhm I have, it is pretty amazing. This is why I love Linux based OS's, so many varieties for different requirements.
[21:23] <harvey_> jason00: yes it is
[21:23] <rebecca> Hello I have a question. See, I want to change my password without logging in and I know that I need to go to recovery mode and type in passwd user but it always says this when I first enter: computer login: I forget how to escape this so it will let me change my password. So what do I type in in order to change my password before I type in passwd user?
[21:24] <scorinitron> is their some way I can unbloat ubuntu?
[21:24] <jason00> harvey_: do you're trying to install broadcom drivers on a laptop? wireless drivers at that?
[21:24] <harvey_> jason00: no no, it's an OEM PC
[21:24] <xangua> Jragon: if you are using mint please go to mint support channel
[21:24] <scorinitron> by deleting  unity and gnome 3 and installing xfce?
[21:24] <xangua> !mint Jragon
[21:24] <xangua> !mint
[21:24] <harvey_> jason00: and i'm trying to install wireless drivers on that
[21:25] <jutnux> http://www.howtogeek.com/geekers/up/sshot4ecba27220325.jpg
[21:25] <crimsonmane> !wine
[21:25] <OerHeks> rebecca it asks for your accountname first, not the password itself
[21:25] <scorinitron> !xfce
[21:25] <harvey_> jason00: hence the 50ft cat5 lol
[21:25] <JetJaguar> scorinitron  I'd say just start with Xubuntu....
[21:25] <rebecca> I know, but after that what do I do OerHeks?
[21:25] <Jragon> xangua, I'm on ubuntu 11.10 :S
[21:25] <jason00> harvey_: if you are trying to install wireless broadcom drivers on a linux system, you'll almost be guaranteed to need to plug in via ethernet. That is, honestly, the easiest thing to do. Broadcom does not allow their firmware/drivers to be packaged and work out of the box on linux systems.
[21:25] <scorinitron> dang but doesn't that mean reformatting my entire HDD again and starting from scratch?
[21:25] <OerHeks> !password | rebecca
[21:25] <jason00> harvey_: for my broadcom systems, I plug them in, go to additional drivers menu, and it'll see through the backend repo what drivers are available. I download, install, reboot, unplug cat5, and I'm on wireless.
[21:25] <harvey_> jason00: i've noticed, i really hate broadcom.
[21:26] <jason00> harvey_: I hate to say it but I think that's your best bet.
[21:26] <jutnux> Jason00: My broadcom drivers work fine in 11.10
[21:26] <jason00> jutnux: right. You also had to have installed them separately.
[21:26] <Deltatash> JetJaguar, how about this I open the MacOSX.vbox in gedit and check the settings it seems the first lot of settings worked in terminal i see the screen resolution i wanted is in the config file...
[21:26] <harvey_> jason00: appreciate the help. hopefully i can just do that and it will work
[21:26] <jutnux> Jason00: Nope, worked out of the box.
[21:26] <jason00> jutnux: I did hear that broadcom recently released an open source driver, but I don't know how well it is.
[21:26] <JetJaguar> scorinitron  You can do that or you could just install xfce seperately...
[21:26] <Deltatash> but when I boot up it defaults to a lower resolution regardless of what is in the .vbox config file... wtf lol
[21:26] <jason00> harvey_: I used to work in a windows environment with 2,000 windows ysstems.
[21:26] <jason00> harvey_: broadcom sucked there too
[21:26] <rebecca> I know this... I do not need help recovering my password I remember it fine. All I want to know is what to do to CHANGE it.
[21:26] <jason00> harvey_: whether wired, wireless, you name it. they're pretty bad.
[21:27] <Deltatash> you think its cus I am having to use a .iso boot loader to boot the OS ?
[21:27] <matthew> Hello I have tried the Xubuntu chat room and got nothing. I just install xubuntu 11.10 and did updates and restarted, install ATI proprietary drivers and restarted and tried to setup my dual monitors and i press apply and it crashes and says Segmentation fault. Somebody please help?
[21:27] <harvey_> jason00: haha i know and i don't understand why netgear uses all their chipsets
[21:27] <Deltatash> maybe the boot loader is defaulting it for some reason
[21:27] <jason00> harvey_: in the grand scheme of things, plugging in and having to install a driver one time in the installation's life isn't too bad.
[21:27] <jason00> jutnux: I know broadcom had an open source driver. Maybe you got it? I don't know. I have yet to see a broadcom wireless system work out of box.
[21:27] <harvey_> jason00: agreed, i'll just find my cat5 and try to do it
[21:27] <jason00> jutnux: speaking of which, that broadcom system was wireless, right???
[21:27] <jason00> harvey_: good luck bro!
[21:27] <JetJaguar> Deltatash   Hmmm...  are there Vbox extentions that you have to install in MacOSX like there is in Windows?
[21:27] <jutnux> Indeed it was.
[21:27] <scorinitron> JetJaguar, really? but wouldn't Gnome and Unity run in the background ultimately weaking my system down?
[21:27] <zykotick9> rebecca, boot to recovery the "passwd rebecca" assuming rebecca is your user name
[21:28] <harvey_> jason00: thanks, cya around
[21:28] <zykotick9> s/the/then/
[21:28] <JetJaguar> scorinitron  You could uninstall them.
[21:28] <OerHeks> oh, to change it, you need to login, i don't know a way without
[21:28] <jason00> jutnux: yeah, I've yet to see a broadcom wireless system work out of the box. I suppose it's possible though, since after all, I DID hear they had an open source driver. But I have yet to run into a broadcom system with wireless that worked out of the box.
[21:28] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: you mean additions? no
[21:28] <scorinitron> JetJaguar, well this is info I didn't know XD how would I do that safely?
[21:28] <jutnux> Umhm!
[21:28] <Excedere> Can anyone think of a reason why uptime/who/etc report 0 users logged in?
[21:28] <jutnux> Let me boot it up and find out the model name
[21:29] <rebecca> nonono I know this! But when I type in passwd rebecca and enter it says my login pass is incorrect! but that is not what I am trying to do so how do escape that mode and boot up the ls and such?
[21:29] <scorinitron> JetJaguar, I thought you were stuck with what ever GUI you got for that OS
[21:29] <yazdmich> what is the minimum requirements for a minimal ubuntu install with the mini.iso image?
[21:29] <joltik> Is this the right channel for ubuntu support?
[21:29] <JetJaguar> scorinitron  Ubott posted something above...  Check it out.
[21:29] <Deltatash> Gentoo dunno I went to the VM directory that its saved in and apparently the .vbox file is the config file
[21:29] <tonyyarusso> rebecca: When you boot to recovery mode, you should be getting a menu on a blue background, with an option for "Drop to a root shell", which is the one you want to select.  It's after that stage that you would do 'passwd rebecca'.  It sounds like perhaps the earlier steps aren't happening properly.  Could you describe the process you're doing, and tell us what version of Ubuntu this is on?
[21:29] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: sorry i wasnt following properlu
[21:29] <Gentoo64> thought you simply meant osx guest additions
[21:29] <JetJaguar> scorinitron  No, you can change it in Linux.
[21:30] <Deltatash> JetJaguar, the extensions I can install for Virtualbox are to allow USB support if i remember right only other thing I can think of is the guest additions which is for windows
[21:30] <yazdmich> ?
[21:30] <scorinitron> JetJaguar, wow...I feel dumb lol I didn't know XD
[21:30] <JetJaguar> Deltatash you may need to install the guest additions.  I know a video driver gets installed with the Windows version.
[21:30] <scorinitron> JetJaguar, so what's the best GUI you used so far?
[21:31] <Jragon> xangua, please help me
[21:31] <Deltatash> I am using EmpireEFI4AMD.iso to boot it im just wondering if that is defaulting it ?
[21:31] <geoffmcc> JetJaguar: jutnux: usually the sta driver is available in additial drivers out of the box, it just needs activated. however i ususally install the firmware-b43-installer package and use those instead.
[21:31] <scorinitron> JetJaguar, outside of gnome, unity, and xfce?
[21:31] <rebecca> Ok... I am pretty sure this is Ubuntu 10.10 and it does not boot up a blue backround and display those messages. What I do is on the login screen, I press Ctrl Alt F1 to reach boot menu and that is when "login computer" is displayed.
[21:31] <Deltatash> maybe I can try... but im not sure there is a guest additions for mac os x I will check
[21:31] <yazdmich> hello?
[21:31] <scorinitron> Jragon, are you just trying to install adobe flash on your pc?
[21:31] <Jragon> Yes
[21:31] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: there arent
[21:31] <tonyyarusso> rebecca: Ah, okay.  You're not actually booting into recovery mode.
[21:32] <Deltatash> then I am screwed lol xD
[21:32] <tonyyarusso> rebecca: Take a look at the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword - you need to select it from the Grub menu before booting.
[21:32] <Deltatash> nothing has worked that should have xD
[21:32] <scorinitron> jragon, what OS r u running what version of linux
[21:32] <yazdmich> what is the minimum requirements for a minimal hardy heron install with the mini.iso image?
[21:32] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: i have osx in a vm and its pretty sucky with no additions
[21:32] <Jragon> ubuntu 11.10
[21:32] <Deltatash> yeah
[21:32] <JetJaguar> scorinitron  All depends on what your needs are.  I needed really light weight for this system so I went Lubuntu.  At home I use something different.
[21:32] <Deltatash> it isnt the smoothest running thing for me either
[21:32] <pcpower> how do you create an upstart job that only does something on shutdown? I'm having a VERY hard time understanding upstart in general, and the documentation isn't helping much.
[21:32] <yazdmich> what are*
[21:32] <Deltatash> but I need to learn how to use the OS X system a little more for my job lol
[21:33] <Deltatash> VM is best way I can do it, cant afford a full blown mac lol xD so i just got operating system xD
[21:33] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: its more than usable with no additions :s
[21:33] <joltik> I installed a dual boot ubuntu on my parents computer and I promised it would work, but when I turn the computer on it turns white and starts turning black like its overloading the screen.
[21:33] <bekks> yazdmich: Erm, why do you want such an old version?
[21:33] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: its fast on mine
[21:33] <Deltatash> yeah ?
[21:33] <Deltatash> mine is pretty laggy lol
[21:33] <scorinitron> Jragon, here is the link it's an entire guide on how to install flash on ubuntu 11.10 http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/09/07/how-to-install-adobe-flash-player-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[21:33] <rebecca> oh, well then how do i reach recovery mode? my friend taught me it this way a while ago and it worked fine. i cannot understand what I am forgetting now because I would like to try remembering what I did then, because it worked. Do you know another way, like this, perhaps? To display the ls ?
[21:33] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: yeah, but additions would make it faster
[21:33] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running on a laptop using 11.04, when running window managers, all the power management stuff gets switched off. I'm writing a script to do manage my battery power/writes to disk currently and I'm wondering if there are any already written tools for doing this?
[21:33] <Deltatash> yeah
[21:33] <Deltatash> but we dont have additions for mac os x in virtual box ?
[21:34] <Gentoo64> no
[21:34] <yazdmich> bekks: trying to get an old computer to be useful
[21:34] <Gentoo64> never have
[21:34] <tonyyarusso> rebecca: Only if you have and know a root password, which is a rather different approach.
[21:34] <yazdmich> compaq preasrio 4814
[21:34] <joltik> I just ran a boot recovery
[21:34] <bekks> Deltatash: Unless you are a proud owner of Apple Hardware, you will infringe the copyright agreement of Apple - even when runninf Mac OSX in a vm.
[21:34] <Deltatash> my laptop is full ati/amd to...dunno if that causes any lag ? no intel or nvidia parts lol
[21:34] <Gentoo64> nah
[21:34] <Gentoo64> i doubt it
[21:34] <yazdmich> so
[21:34] <brontosaurusrex> Deltatash, what do you need to learn?
[21:35] <yazdmich> what are the minimum requirements
[21:35] <joltik> could anyone help me?
[21:35] <rebecca> AHA! That's another thing! Sorry I forget to tell you... all my fault. Before I did all that, I typed in root and it then displayed root@rebecca. But I tried doing this now and it seems that I have forgotten a step.
[21:35] <Deltatash> just general things on it lol I am IT support at work mostly with windows, but on occasion I have to sort things out on mac...would just be nice to practice on it at home get to grips with it and be more fluent in navigating and general trouble shooting
[21:35] <scorinitron> Jragon, you their
[21:35] <Jragon> Yes.
[21:36] <Jragon> It still doesn't work..
[21:36] <scorinitron> jragon, just click this
[21:36] <jutnux> Unless you buy a mac you will have a hard time.
[21:36] <Deltatash> makes me feel a right dope when my first time adding a printer on mac took me 20 mins to find out how to add it...hahah xD ultra noob
[21:36] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: yeah thats why i put mine in vm just to mess around with it
[21:36] <yazdmich> so
[21:36] <yazdmich> hello?
[21:36] <joltik> Please, I promised it would work, and I can't figure out what to do.
[21:36] <Jragon> Screw it...
[21:36] <Jragon> I'm going back to Mint.
[21:36] <JetJaguar> Hello
[21:36] <Deltatash> yeah Id like the same it works, but its just a little slow and not so big resolution xD i cna put up with it but would be nice if i could get better resolution
[21:37] <ubuntunoob> @jragon JOIN US :D
[21:37] <ubuntunoob> MINT ROX
[21:37] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: not possible afaik. i really dont know anything about mac, but you may be able to tweak a file
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> i'm downloading mint 12
[21:37] <Deltatash> yeah
[21:37] <yazdmich> is mint good for old computers?
[21:37] <rebecca> so what do you think the step is i forgot?
[21:38] <yazdmich> like 10+
[21:38] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: i was playing with a openbsd guest and could tweak the xorg.conf in some odd way to get massive res with no additions
[21:38] <tonyyarusso> rebecca: no idea
[21:38] <Deltatash> I was originally trying VBoxManage setextradata MacOSX “CustomVideoMode1″ “1280×800×32”
[21:38] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: but itll always be laggy
[21:38] <JetJaguar> If you really want lightweight then use CrunchBang.  lol
[21:38] <Deltatash> but it would say it couldnt find the rgistered name
[21:38] <scorinitron> Jragon, you know how to open your terminal right?
[21:38] <rebecca> i will try again
[21:38] <brontosaurusrex> yazdmich, as much as ubuntu or less
[21:38] <auronandace> yazdmich: why are you asking that in #ubuntu?
[21:38] <rebecca> brb
[21:38] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: tbh youll just have to deal with it
[21:38] <Deltatash> maybe xD
[21:38] <Gentoo64> no easy way round it
[21:39] <ubuntunoob> i have a question whats the difference between xfce power manager and gnome power manager?
[21:39] <joltik> does anyone here know anything about fixing a booting problem with a ubuntu windows dual boot?
[21:39] <Deltatash> if my laptop was intel and nvidia id give a hackintosh a go lol
[21:39] <yazdmich> because im not geting any answers for ubuntu
[21:39] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob: xfce one is for xfce and gnome one is for gnome
[21:39] <tonyyarusso> joltik: depends on the problem
[21:39] <ubuntunoob> i know that
[21:39] <ubuntunoob> but whats the difference between features
[21:39] <Deltatash> dont quite think amd and ati is the best hardware for  hackintosh :P
[21:39] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: id rather use linux lol
[21:39] <ubuntunoob> and settings?
[21:39] <Deltatash> me to but mac is used more where i work than linux :(
[21:39] <scorinitron> jragon, To Quickly install and enable Adobe flash Open the Terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T) and run this command to install flash player  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[21:40] <JetJaguar> Deltatash,  ew.
[21:40] <Deltatash> and my work is too tight to put out on another mac book for me to learn how to use them lol xD
[21:40] <scorinitron> Jragon, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[21:40] <joltik> tonyyarusso: I am not sure what the problem is, when I start up, it turns white and then looks like its trying to burn black into my screen
[21:40] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: nah its very picky. i think i have the hardware for it. i even tried it once. but messing with the kext etc isnt worth it, upgreades might or might not fail. plus the fact that i hate mac anyway
[21:40] <Deltatash> so its just guess work when someone with one has a problem and asks me to fix it >.<
[21:40] <Deltatash> haha
[21:40] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: no. just sue the laggy one in vbox
[21:40] <JetJaguar> Mac's have problems?
[21:40] <Gentoo64> you can still learn
[21:41] <yazdmich> what are the minimum requirements for a minimal hardy heron install using the mini.iso image?
[21:41] <Deltatash> yeah
[21:41] <Deltatash> I mean it seems to be fully functional
[21:41] <ubuntunoob> hardy is not supported
[21:41] <Deltatash> just a bit of lag
[21:41] <Deltatash> so... its better than nothing as long as I can learn :)
[21:41] <ubuntunoob> use lucid or maverick
[21:41] <xangua> yazdmich: hardy is no longer supported, at least not the desktop
[21:41] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: thats what i mean i think its the best youll get without buying one :)
[21:41] <Deltatash> yeah :)
[21:41] <auronandace> ubuntunoob: it still is supported on servers
[21:41] <scorinitron> Jragon, ...
[21:41] <Deltatash> there is only 2 linux computers where I work lol xD
[21:41] <Deltatash> ubuntu 10.4 lts ;)
[21:41] <ubuntunoob> ik that
[21:42] <fansubcana> hi
[21:42] <Deltatash> I managed to convince them to start using linux in some areas lol
[21:42] <ubuntunoob> but they should use newer version :P
[21:42] <Deltatash> one is the computer I use :D and the other sits in reception on a massive screen playing a slideshow 24/7 never turns off hasnt been restarted in months lol still going smooth no slow down xD
[21:42] <ubuntunoob> i can
[21:43] <ubuntunoob>  not
[21:43] <JetJaguar> I'm using linux so that I can run multiple Win7 VM's for software testing.
[21:43] <Deltatash> cool :P
[21:43] <ubuntunoob> stand using ubuntu on my Powerpc eMac
[21:43] <ubuntunoob> its so slowww
[21:43] <ubuntunoob> i  use debian on my eMac
[21:43] <Deltatash> I just need my favourite games to be made natively for linux then I can make the ful switch xD
[21:44] <ubuntunoob> wine 1.3 anyone ??
[21:44] <JetJaguar> Delta  Use wine...  lol
[21:44] <ubuntunoob> @delta
[21:44] <ubuntunoob> :P
[21:44] <Deltatash> lol wine is only so good :P Dawn of War II dont work in wine :(
[21:44] <Deltatash> neets .net2.5 or 3 or something
[21:44] <ubuntunoob> you try 1.3 ??
[21:45] <Deltatash> I think it was 1.2 ?
[21:45] <Deltatash> it was early this year I tried it
[21:45] <ubuntunoob> try 1.3 its better
[21:45] <joltik> If the boot is broken should I reinstal ubuntu?
[21:45] <ubuntunoob> more compatibility
[21:45] <Deltatash> does it have support for .net 2.5 and 3?
[21:45] <joltik> reinstall*
[21:45] <xangua> joltik: you mean grub ¿
[21:45] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  Check out http://www.playonlinux.com/en/
[21:46] <joltik> xangua I think, I am not totally sure
[21:46] <xangua> Deltatash: desura was released too - like  Steam-lite, says the post http://is.gd/kJEU2K
[21:46] <Excedere> imo its easier to get most things running with just wine and a little know-how vs playonlinux
[21:46] <xangua> !grub | joltik
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> http://www.desura.com/
[21:46] <Deltatash> yeah play on linux pretty good i used to use it for steam :D
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> xangua  was faster :)
[21:47] <Deltatash> hmm Desura ? ill take a look :)
[21:47] <ubuntunoob> that would be a yes deltahttp://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9828
[21:47] <joltik> I installed ubuntu after windows
[21:47] <ubuntunoob> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9828
[21:47] <joltik> off of a live flashdrive
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> joltik  and now now you have to repair grub?
[21:48] <Deltatash> so desura is like a steam client ?
[21:48] <Deltatash> but all native linux games ?
[21:48] <scorinitron> what native linux games?
[21:48] <scorinitron> linux actually has decent games?
[21:48] <JetJaguar> SuperBlob...  lol
[21:48] <ubuntunoob> yes
[21:48] <joltik> MonkeyDust , I tried a boot repair, was that right?
[21:49] <pcpower> 16:48:47 < scorinitron> linux actually has decent games?
[21:49] <pcpower> depends on what kind of games you like
[21:49] <scorinitron> well anything that has good graphics
[21:49] <JetJaguar> Solitaire works great...
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> Deltatash  there's also Lutrix and UGP
[21:49] <jerenept> Xonotic
[21:49] <Deltatash> hmm
[21:49] <pcpower> you're not getting any AAA titles on linux
[21:49] <scorinitron> shooting games, racing games, emulators, anything?
[21:49] <Deltatash> we might be getting Rage
[21:49] <Deltatash> Linux Native
[21:49] <jerenept> xonotic.org
[21:49] <scorinitron> does linux have emulators?
[21:50] <pcpower> yes
[21:50] <jerenept> yea
[21:50] <ubuntunoob> yeah
[21:50] <scorinitron> ok...any thing like VBA or NO$GBA
[21:50] <ubuntunoob> supertuxkart
[21:50] <Deltatash> World of Warcraft plays pretty well in linux, but I dont play it anymore lol xD
[21:50] <scorinitron> or  N64
[21:50] <scorinitron> SNES?
[21:50] <Deltatash> I used to get higher FPS in linux than I did in Windows... wtf lol
[21:50] <ubuntunoob> desume
[21:51] <scorinitron> plain and simple... I have a PC controller...
[21:51] <joltik> My grub is messed up...
[21:51] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running on a laptop using 11.04, when running window managers, all the power management stuff gets switched off. I'm writing a script to do manage my battery power/writes to disk currently and I'm wondering if there are any already written tools for doing this?
[21:51] <jerenept> For GBA try VirtualBoy
[21:51] <scorinitron> I want something that is worthy of me playing with with a PC controller...
[21:51] <ubuntunoob> upgrade to 3.2.1 linux kernel
[21:51] <jerenept> Jupiter Applet
[21:51] <ubuntunoob> runescape is awesome shut it haters
[21:51] <pcpower> there is no 3.2.1...
[21:51] <ubuntunoob> yes it is
[21:52] <Deltatash> Dynasty Warriors! is for a PC controller! lol
[21:52] <Deltatash> but dunno if it works in wine xD
[21:52] <pcpower> not according to http://kernel.org/
[21:52] <ubuntunoob> oops
[21:52] <ubuntunoob> meant 3.1.2
[21:52] <pcpower> see :)
[21:52] <scorinitron> lol
[21:53] <joltik>  How do I repair a grub?
[21:53] <cipherboy> Anyone running linux 3.x in here?
[21:53] <iceroot> !grub | cipherboy
[21:53] <ubuntunoob> i am
[21:53] <JetJaguar> Wasn't there a linux version of Wolfenstein?
[21:53] <scorinitron> Seriously though is their a reall good emulator package I can get
[21:53] <raf> sdf
[21:53] <pcpower> what do you want to emulate?
[21:53] <cipherboy> iceroot, I didn't ask about grub.
[21:53] <jerenept> VisualBooyAdvance
[21:53] <Deltatash> yeah i think there may have been JetJaguar dont quote me on that though
[21:53] <scorinitron> DS, PS1 GBA SNES etc
[21:53] <scorinitron> PS1 would have me golden
[21:53] <iceroot> cipherboy: sorry wrong line
[21:54] <pcpower> google is your friend
[21:54] <scorinitron> XD
[21:54] <iceroot> !grub | joltik
[21:54] <Deltatash> How do I get this Desura
[21:54] <joltik> kk, il check this
[21:54] <auronandace> cipherboy: plenty are running linux 3.x
[21:54] <scorinitron> OMG Your Right PCPOWER
[21:54] <Deltatash> nvm found it xD
[21:54] <scorinitron> found it XD
[21:54] <scorinitron> Now I'm All EXCITED AND HAPPY!!
[21:54] <scorinitron> lol
[21:54] <JetJaguar> Found what?
[21:54] <cipherboy> Is it included in 11.10? Haven't upgraded past 11.04, liking my gnome...
[21:54] <cipherboy> (gnome2)
[21:54] <scorinitron> PS1 Emulator for linux
[21:55] <zykotick9> scorinitron, for PS1 check out pSX (it's not in the repos)
[21:55] <Deltatash> Does Desura have any free to play games ? so I can test drive it ?
[21:55] <scorinitron> PSX exe is what I used in windows
[21:55] <auronandace> !info linux-generic | cipherboy
[21:55] <cipherboy> auronandace, ty
[21:56] <ubuntunoob> cipherboy: install it with this  http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/11/how-to-install-kernel-31-on-ubuntu.html
[21:56] <ubuntunoob> and replace the 3.1.0 with 3.1.2
[21:56] <jerenept> Deltatash:Xonotic is in Desura
[21:56] <Deltatash> ohh
[21:56] <scorinitron> What would be the easyist way to get rid of the unity and gnome gui
[21:57] <ubuntunoob> install xfce @ scorinitron
[21:57] <jrib> scorinitron: just install what you want and use that
[21:57] <ubuntunoob> the commands
[21:57] <scorinitron> it won't run things in the background will it?
[21:57] <scorinitron> will I still keep my data?
[21:58] <ubuntunoob> yes
[21:58] <scorinitron> can I run an awesome tron theme?
[21:58] <scorinitron> XD
[21:58] <Deltatash> lol awesome tron theme FTW!
[21:58] <Deltatash> I want a screenshot :P
[21:58] <ubuntunoob> once you install xfce you can choose between xfce and gnome at the login screen
[21:58] <scorinitron> oh
[21:58] <ubuntunoob> and change the session to xfce
[21:58] <jrib> scorinitron: just choose the environment you want (after you install it) at the login screen
[21:59] <JetJaguar> Awesome and TRON are redundant.
[21:59] <Deltatash> pfft Tron was a good film xD
[21:59] <scorinitron> Deltatash,  I was looking for a tron theme came across some real awesome ones but I can't seem to get them to install correctly
[21:59] <Deltatash> I enjoyed it anyway :P
[21:59] <Deltatash> ohh :/ not so good then lol xD
[21:59] <scorinitron> Tron Legacy was AWESOME but the character development sucked
[21:59] <scorinitron> I felt it was too rushed
[21:59] <Deltatash> Ive not really played with ubuntu themes tbh though im not even sure where i would start to install a new one haha xD
[21:59] <Deltatash> maybe
[22:00] <scorinitron> but the graphics was enough
[22:00] <Deltatash> yeah :)
[22:00] <scorinitron> to get me dreaming  of a world inside of computers
[22:00] <ubuntunoob> I LOVE XFCE  it uses a lot less then gnome
[22:00] <ubuntunoob> the ram that is
[22:00] <Deltatash> the day I watched tron I was sick shortly after...caught some random stomach bug.... lol xD
[22:00] <scorinitron> XD
[22:00] <scorinitron> lol
[22:00] <scorinitron> <<17
[22:00] <scorinitron> I'm 17 U?
[22:00] <Deltatash> me ?
[22:00] <scorinitron> yeah
[22:00] <ubuntunoob> and xfce has a dock
[22:00] <Deltatash> 21
[22:00] <scorinitron> Cool!
[22:00] <Deltatash> :)
[22:01] <zykotick9> !ot
[22:01] <scorinitron> my bro is older than you XD
[22:01] <Deltatash> lol
[22:01] <ubuntunoob> its much better than gnome if you ask me
[22:01] <scorinitron> command?
[22:01] <ubuntunoob> sudo apt-get install xfce*
[22:01] <Deltatash> I command you to get me some food :P
[22:01] <scorinitron> lol thanks
[22:01] <ubuntunoob> no prob :D
[22:01] <scorinitron> I guess it never changes
[22:01] <cipherboy> sudo make food: target food not found
[22:01] <Deltatash> lol
[22:02] <Gentoo64> no one mentioned make me a sandwich yet?
[22:02] <Gentoo64> :)
[22:02] <scorinitron> unable to locate package xfce?
[22:02] <JetJaguar> Saw the original TRON in the theater...  lol
[22:02] <Deltatash> I will have ot try this XFCE myself as well sometime lol but for now im hapopy with gnome 2 :P
[22:02] <Deltatash> Gentoo64 You can have some of my sandwich cus your a linux user! makes you call ;D
[22:02] <ubuntunoob> you have to add the asterisk as part of the command
[22:02] <Deltatash> *cool
[22:02] <cipherboy> Gentoo64, not yet. Later.
[22:02] <auronandace> scorinitron: you'll want xubuntu-desktop, that will drag in all that you need
[22:03] <cipherboy> When people have turkey leftovers.
[22:03] <Gentoo64> http://xkcd.com/149/
[22:03] <Gentoo64> i meant that lol
[22:03] <scorinitron> can I install xbuntu?
[22:03] <ubuntunoob> yeah
[22:03] <Deltatash> lol JetJaguar i hope it was 3D :D
[22:03] <ubuntunoob> if you want to completely replace gnome
[22:03] <scorinitron> with out depleting the rest of my recsourses?
[22:03] <scorinitron> ok
[22:03] <auronandace> scorinitron: sure, why not?
[22:04] <scorinitron> I'm getting the feeling that it's always going to be the same...
[22:04] <Deltatash> probably depends how you set up ubuntu in the first place scorinitron
[22:04] <ubuntunoob> and gnome takes a lot of ram compared to xfce
[22:04] <cipherboy> Anyone use fluxbox on here (speaking of low ram)?
[22:04] <scorinitron> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:04] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  Not at that time.  lol
[22:04] <ubuntunoob> personally i use lxde but i like xfce's interface better
[22:04] <cipherboy> I used to until I upgraded ram.
[22:04] <scorinitron> ??
[22:04] <Gentoo64> cipherboy, openbox
[22:04] <scorinitron> did I get that right?
[22:04] <ubuntunoob> openbox is better dude i
[22:04] <auronandace> scorinitron: yes
[22:05] <Deltatash> lol thats not good JetJaguar :P
[22:05] <ubuntunoob> it is based on lxde
[22:05] <ubuntunoob> its lighter than fluxbox
[22:05] <Gentoo64> ubuntu_, you mean lxde is based on openbox :)
[22:05] <ubuntunoob> its what i use :D
[22:05] <Gentoo64> not hte other way round lol
[22:05] <ubuntunoob> i know thats what i meant
[22:05] <scorinitron> installing ^^
[22:05] <ubuntunoob> no prob
[22:05] <scorinitron> Woot Woot!! new GUI on the way
[22:06] <ubuntunoob> your very welcome
[22:06] <Gentoo64> openbox is the fastest thing ive used
[22:06] <scorinitron> Thanks Guys^^
[22:06] <Gentoo64> apart from pure console ofc, vut theyre all pretty similar in speed with the light wms
[22:06] <auronandace> Gentoo64: faster than twm?
[22:06] <cipherboy> Hey, any good tutorials on theming lightdm if I upgrade to 11.10?
[22:06] <Deltatash> which one you installing scorinitron
[22:06] <Gentoo64> auronandace, in terms of a "proper" one :)
[22:06] <auronandace> :)
[22:06] <klonkr> Has anyone got mopidy to work with arch and if so, how?
[22:06] <scorinitron> xfce
[22:06] <JetJaguar> #! is the shiznauts
[22:06] <Deltatash> ahh nice :)
[22:07] <Deltatash> haha
[22:07] <scorinitron> LMAO
[22:07] <ubuntunoob> scorinitron a good browser for xfce is midori
[22:07] <ubuntunoob> its what im using right now
[22:07] <scorinitron> what a minute...
[22:07] <Gentoo64> klonkr, this isnt #arch :s
[22:07] <Deltatash> im too scared to try a new gui xD
[22:07] <klonkr> opps, my bad heh
[22:07] <scorinitron> this isn't one of thoses console desktops is it?
[22:07] <Deltatash> nah
[22:07] <scorinitron> will I still have my apps?
[22:07] <scorinitron> xchat...?
[22:07] <scorinitron> etc
[22:08] <cipherboy> Yep.
[22:08] <Gentoo64> scorchgeek, xfce is a proper one not console like
[22:08] <Deltatash> its just a different UI so notihng should be missing
[22:08] <cipherboy> It is just a new way of dressing it up.
[22:08] <ubuntunoob> webchat freenode
[22:08] <jrib> Gentoo64: tried a tiling window manager like xmonad or awesome yet?
[22:08] <Gentoo64> yeah
[22:08] <auronandace> scorinitron: xfce is gtk based, anything that works on gnome will work on xfce
[22:08] <Gentoo64> i hate tiling wms
[22:08] <Gentoo64> all of them
[22:08] <jrib> D:
[22:08] <ubuntunoob> if you dont remove ubuntu-desktop then you will still have all your gnome apps
[22:08] <aeon-ltd> Gentoo64: why? the philosophy is that it works for you
[22:08] <Gentoo64> i either use openbox or tmux in a full res console
[22:08] <aeon-ltd> Gentoo64: you can float and tile...
[22:09] <Gentoo64> yeah
[22:09] <ubuntunoob> but use openbox instead of xfwm4
[22:09] <scorinitron> so how would I install themes to xfce?
[22:09] <aeon-ltd> Gentoo64: the only thing its not great at is if you can only use one hand
[22:09] <cipherboy> I need to get active on the forums again...
[22:09] <scorinitron> I want a cool trom theme
[22:09] <Gentoo64> aeon-ltd, i suppose so lol
[22:09] <auronandace> !themes | scorinitron
[22:09] <ubuntunoob> scorinitron i shall look that up for you
[22:10] <scorinitron> YAY^^ Thanks bro/sis IDK
[22:10] <Deltatash> lol you and your tron theme :P
[22:10] <ubuntunoob> once its installed do sudo apt-get remove xfwm4
[22:10] <scorinitron> well if it isn't tron I think I would want a matrix theme
[22:10] <ubuntunoob> then sudo apt-get install openbox
[22:10] <Deltatash> :D
[22:11] <JetJaguar> Matrix is geh
[22:11] <auronandace> scorinitron: you could also try xfce-look
[22:11] <Gentoo64> scorinitron, if you cant find one, just put a tron wallapper and a turqoise color scheme
[22:11] <Deltatash> Go for an Avatar theme! :D
[22:11] <ubuntunoob> i have only used linux for a couple months but i know my way around the enviroments
[22:11] <scorinitron> I the same
[22:12] <JetJaguar> Get a Motoko theme.  Yeah....
[22:12] <scorinitron> but I just learned I can change enviroments
[22:12] <scorinitron> lol
[22:13] <scorinitron> what's motoko? up yeah right I'll google it
[22:13] <scorinitron> OH THAT GIRL
[22:13] <scorinitron> GHOST IN THE SHELL AWESOMENESS
[22:13] <ubuntunoob> about that theme for xfce
[22:13] <CharminTheMoose> Hmm
[22:13] <Deltatash> this sounds interesting *opens google for Motoko*
[22:13] <ubuntunoob> i will look for a openbox theme for you
[22:13] <JetJaguar> motoko kusanagi
[22:13] <JokesOnYou77> I <3 Motoko
[22:13] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob, xfce has an xp theme
[22:14] <Gentoo64> i know someone who uses it
[22:14] <JetJaguar> Yep
[22:14] <Gentoo64> :)
[22:14] <Deltatash> Gentoo64 how dare you swear in here!
[22:14] <Deltatash> lol :P
[22:14] <Gentoo64> xp owns linux
[22:14] <scorinitron> what a minute what's openbox? right right google
[22:14] <Deltatash> lol since when :P
[22:14] <ex0a> i installed xbmc-live and it wanted to replace gdm, but now when i boot i'm in low graphics mode - how can i change the graphics settings? i have no xorg.conf file or gdm atm
[22:14] <Gentoo64> :)
[22:14] <scorinitron> !openbox
[22:15] <scorinitron> haha it works ^^
[22:15] <CharminTheMoose> The LHS specifies that everything can be deleted in /var/cache, because "the application must always be able to recover from manula deletion of these files.". Does this hold true for ubuntu?
[22:15] <CharminTheMoose> or rather, apt?
[22:15] <ubuntunoob> scorinitron, there is a tron theme for the heavier fluxbox but not for openbox
[22:16] <scorinitron> fluxbox should I install that now?
[22:16] <ex0a> CharminTheMoose: i'm pretty sure there is no harm in deleting the cache directory
[22:16] <scorinitron> BTW I think it finished?
[22:16] <Deltatash> here is a decent looking tron theme for you http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/My+Laptop?content=142616 but looks like it uses gnome
[22:16] <JetJaguar> Time for food.
[22:17] <ubuntunoob> use fluxbox instead of openbox then
[22:17] <scorinitron> lol food time it is PASTA TIME
[22:17] <Gentoo64> how is that a tron theme? its just a tron wallpaper lol
[22:17] <Deltatash> cya JetJaguar, and thanks for your help earlier :)
[22:17] <Deltatash> lol well look at his windows xD
[22:17] <Deltatash> they have liek a glow colour around the edge :P
[22:17] <Deltatash> close enough xD
[22:17] <microfil> hi
[22:17] <JetJaguar> Woot
[22:18] <ubuntunoob> sudo apt-get remove xfwm4
[22:18] <ubuntunoob> scorinitron: http://box-look.org/content/show.php/Tron?content=136749
[22:18] <vulgarbulgar> hello i need some help installing a Seiko SLP 200 driver
[22:18] <ubuntunoob> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[22:19] <Gentoo64> sudo apt-get remove /
[22:19] <auronandace> ubuntunoob: why are you intent on removing xfwm4?
[22:19] <scorinitron> ubuntunoob, thanks man I also found this http://box-look.org/content/show.php/Cyanized+-+Tron-like?content=146741
[22:19] <ubuntunoob> xfwm4 is heavier than fluxbox
[22:19] <scorinitron> I think I might beable to implement both
[22:19] <ubuntunoob> nope
[22:20] <JokesOnYou77> Gentoo64: what does putting the / at the end of the command do?
[22:20] <scorinitron> so the first thing is to remvoe xfwm4?
[22:20] <microfil> ...i have a problem...i have just done the update...restart...and now my notebook have a low resolution and seem to be slow...some one can help me? (sorry for my bad english)
[22:20] <ubuntunoob> yes
[22:20] <ubuntunoob> its not possible
[22:20] <scorinitron> what is xfwm4?
[22:20] <Gentoo64> JokesOnYou77, nothing, was only joking
[22:20] <ubuntunoob> its xfce's window manager but its really heavy
[22:20] <JokesOnYou77> ahh, k
[22:20] <ubuntunoob> 'so you want fluxbox
[22:20] <auronandace> scorinitron: xfwm4 is the window manager for xfce
[22:20] <scorinitron> so xfice is already installed?
[22:20] <scorinitron> xfce what do I reboot into it?
[22:21] <scorinitron> then come back?
[22:21] <scorinitron> to the chat?
[22:21] <lunitik> scorinitron, are you asking how to install a login manager?
[22:21] <scorinitron> nope
[22:21] <scorinitron> XD
[22:21] <Gentoo64> scorinitron, you should be able to choose it on login manager
[22:21] <ex0a> i installed xbmc-live and it wanted to replace gdm, but now when i boot i'm in low graphics mode - how can i change the graphics settings? i have no xorg.conf file or gdm atm
[22:22] <scorinitron> ok brb
[22:22] <ubuntunoob> yeah
[22:22] <auronandace> scorinitron: log out, when you log back in change your session (at the login screen)
[22:22] <ubuntunoob> just reboot or log out
[22:22] <lunitik> ex0a, do you just want to switch back to gdm?
[22:22] <ubuntunoob> and choose xfce
[22:23] <ubuntunoob> oh and use lxdm instead of xfce's login manager
[22:23] <ubuntunoob> its better
[22:23] <Guest2109> hi all
[22:24] <auronandace> ubuntunoob: xfce login manager? xfce doesn't have it's own login manager
[22:24] <lunitik> ex0a, if you do, you can simply sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm and choose it over xbmc... you will be able to choose xbmc in the session picker of the login screen
[22:24] <ubuntunoob> well remove gdm then
[22:24] <ubuntunoob> and use lxdm
[22:25] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, no need to get rid of it, just choose lxdm when you install it... debconf will keep everything sane, but otherwise you are removing meta-packages which help maintain the system
[22:25] <ubuntunoob> i know thats what i meant
[22:25] <mikey60> upgraded to 11.10 today from a usb stick. damn it broke the first time and took the whole thing down. had to reinstall to a different partition to get it to work
[22:26] <lunitik> mikey60, if you have questions related to the experience, that is fine... but just ranting negatively helps nothing at all
[22:26] <mikey60> wasnt ranting
[22:26] <mikey60> just a statement
[22:26] <lunitik> mikey60, otherwise, you can probably let loose in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:26] <ubuntunoob> he was just commenting
[22:26] <mikey60> if you would like me to rant then say so
[22:26] <lunitik> mikey60, well, but what good does it do to voice it?
[22:26] <haakonn> hello, i just rebooted to the new .13 oneiric kernel, and now pulseaudio doesn't make a sound. the levels move in pavucontrol when i play something, but no sound. any idea?
[22:27] <mikey60> it says to people to be careful when doing these things
[22:27] <auronandace> haakonn: are your speakers switched on?
[22:27] <Gentoo64> mikey60, thats true. most people get broken systems after updates
[22:27] <Mitochondria> Weird
[22:27] <Mitochondria> !seen Mito
[22:27] <Gentoo64> a lot of people deny it though
[22:27] <Gentoo64> !give ubottu seen command
[22:28] <ubuntunoob> !idiot
[22:28] <haakonn> auronandace:  yes, sound plays fine in xbmc if i target the audio device directly, but not through pulse
[22:28] <ubuntunoob> !fluxbox
[22:28] <scorinitron> this is AMAZING
[22:28] <ubuntunoob> it is
[22:28] <Gentoo64> what is?
[22:28] <ubuntunoob> ?
[22:28] <scorinitron> XFCE RULES
[22:28] <scorinitron> OMG
[22:28] <scorinitron> SO EASY
[22:28] <auronandace> !yay | scorinitron
[22:28] <FloodBot1> scorinitron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <lunitik> Gentoo64, you used to be able to add factoids via !blah is foo - last I checked that now passed it off to #ubuntu-irc to approve because people abused it
[22:29] <Gentoo64> scorchgeek, what are you on?
[22:29] <Mitochondria> Well anyways. I got a question. I removed a application from my computer. Yet i've still got the app in the menu. It's "Epiphany Web Browser"
[22:29] <auronandace> scorinitron: xfce is my favourite :)
[22:29] <scorchgeek> Gentoo64: I presume you mean scorinitron?
[22:29] <Gentoo64> lunitik, i can imagine
[22:29] <Gentoo64> scorchgeek, yeah :)
[22:29] <scorinitron> ubottu congratulated me XD
[22:29] <Mitochondria> Actually nevermind.
[22:29] <scorinitron> lol
[22:29] <ubuntunoob> @scorinitron  welcome to what i like to call the mouse side of   linux :d
[22:29] <scorchgeek> heh, you pinged me in another channel and I was like "um, have I been typing responses in the wrong channel or something?"
[22:29] <lunitik> Mitochondria, in terminal either 'which epiphany' or 'locate epiphany'... if you have changed the menu entry though, it will remain until you remove it manually (via alacarte)
[22:30] <Gentoo64> scorchgeek, lol. sorry man
[22:30] <ubuntunoob> i love xfce too
[22:30] <scorchgeek> it's fine :D
[22:30] <ubuntunoob> i use both pretty much :D
[22:30] <ubuntunoob> lxde and xfce
[22:30] <scorinitron> I actually feel like getting rid of all of the other GUis I have installed except xfce
[22:30] <scorinitron> and It
[22:30] <scorinitron> it's only been 3 minutes of use
[22:31] <ubuntunoob> then do the kill: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[22:31] <scorinitron> everything is layed out the way I wanted it...and I didn't config anything
[22:31] <vulgarbulgar> i am trying to install drivers for a seiko SLP 200 label printer and it will not let me compile the make file
[22:31] <ubuntunoob> = what i feel like when i use xfce
[22:31] <Gentoo64> scorinitron, just install xubuntu the distro itself, from scratch then
[22:31] <scorinitron> *KILL* KILL MUST KILL MUWHAHAHA
[22:31] <scorinitron> XD
[22:31] <scorinitron> lol
[22:31] <FloodBot1> scorinitron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <Gentoo64> scorinitron, xubuntu has a really nice default theme too
[22:32] <scorinitron> brb gotta eat my pasta ^^
[22:32] <scorinitron> afk
[22:32] <ubuntunoob> k :D
[22:32] <auronandace> Gentoo64: i still prefer the albatross theme more
[22:32] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, that actually wouldn't work because it is just a meta-package... debfoster or deborphan would make it easy to clean up after though
[22:32] <Gentoo64> auronandace, i dont like xfce myself. but the greybird theme is the nicest xfce theme i personally have seen
[22:33] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, (also wouldn't work because it is unlikely you installed ubuntu-desktop by hand... came during the install for most)
[22:33] <Deltatash> cya guys gotta log, thanks for the help earlier
[22:33] <ubuntunoob> it know that its just it removes gnome stuff like gnome apps
[22:33] <daviddoria> is the "unsupported updates" old stuff or bleeding edge stuff?
[22:34] <Gentoo64> daviddoria, im guessing neither
[22:34] <Gentoo64> just "unsupported"
[22:34] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, that's what I'm saying, it wouldn't actually do that because nothing was installed as a dep of it for most people...
[22:34] <Gentoo64> daviddoria, im probably wrong again
[22:34] <ubuntunoob> thats what i did on mine and it worked :P
[22:34] <ubuntunoob> i understand what u mean but
[22:34] <vulgarbulgar> can anyone help with this printing problem?
[22:34] <ex0a> lunitik: i'm reinstalling gdm now (replaces xbmc-live) and going to see if i can set xbmc to be the window manager instead of gnome
[22:34] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, even then, apt/dpkg doesn't care much about the deps of a meta-package once you remove it... lesson learned the hard way, and why I used to love debfoster
[22:35] <daviddoria> how do you run a system update through the software center?
[22:35] <lunitik> ex0a, you can simply select XBMC as the session to log into... also, you didn't really have to reinstall, just 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' would have allowed to set it as default again
[22:36] <ex0a> lunitik: when i installed "xbmc-live" it removed gdm
[22:36] <lunitik> ex0a, that is sort of strange, I am not sure why it would even need to conflict gdm
[22:37] <ex0a> i don't know either
[22:37] <ubuntunoob> found this
[22:37] <ex0a> it's not the same package as xbmc
[22:37] <ubuntunoob> sudo apt-get remove adium-theme-ubuntu alacarte appmenu-gtk at-spi bamfdaemon banshee banshee-extension-soundmenu banshee-extension-ubuntuonemusicstore baobab binfmt-support bluez-gstreamer bogofilter bogofilter-bdb bogofilter-common branding-ubuntu brasero brasero-cdrkit brasero-common capplets-data checkbox checkbox-gtk cli-common compiz compiz-core compiz-gnome compiz-plugins compiz-plugins-main compizconfig-backend-gconf compu
[22:37] <Gentoo64> lol
[22:37] <Gentoo64> nice wall of text
[22:37] <Gentoo64> or is my client just small
[22:37] <jerenept> Why would you remove Banshee? It's awesome!
[22:37] <Gentoo64> lol
[22:37] <ubuntunoob> it just removes gnome dependencies
[22:38] <ubuntunoob> and score said he didnt want gnome
[22:38] <ubuntunoob> soz
[22:38] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, no seriously, apt-cache show debfoster
[22:38] <Gentoo64> thats why i said, might as well just install xubuntu
[22:38] <daviddoria> I see where to specify which updates you want, but how do you run the updates?
[22:38] <Gentoo64> rather than fixing up and cleaning normal ubuntu
[22:38] <ubuntunoob> whats wrong with doing it this way?????
[22:38] <Gentoo64> because if you only want xfce, you might as well install Xubuntu
[22:39] <Gentoo64> then you dont have to clean up gnome crap left over
[22:39] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, nothing, just, why do something by hand which can be automated?
[22:39] <ubuntunoob> because you dont have to reinstall this way :P
[22:40] <Gentoo64> i suppose its preference. some people dont mind
[22:40] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running on a laptop using 11.04, when running window managers, all the power management stuff gets switched off. I'm writing a script to manage my battery power/writes to disk currently and I'm wondering if there are any already written tools for doing this?
[22:40] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, it is really why Debian and thus Ubuntu is so awesome... hackers being lazy and hacking things together to allow their laziness
[22:40]  * mcphail thinks most people would have enough hard disk space not to notice surplus libraries
[22:41] <Gentoo64> mcphail, its not that, its unneeded mess. which some pelpe dont care about
[22:42] <mcphail> Gentoo64: it's only space, but each to their own
[22:42] <ubuntunoob> if ubuntu is so awesome why does it run like crap on my powerpc eMAc
[22:42] <ubuntunoob> ?
[22:42] <Gentoo64> probably an ocd thing lol
[22:42] <ubuntunoob> and debian works great
[22:42] <ubuntunoob> ?
[22:42] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob, unity?
[22:42] <lunitik> mcphail, actually, file system performance can suffer if there is too much bloat... although some file systems actually perform better when they are jam packed... it really depends I guess
[22:42] <Gentoo64> lunitik, dont you mean, when theyre not full?
[22:43] <Gentoo64> well for ssds anyway
[22:43] <Gentoo64> dno about hdds
[22:43] <ubuntunoob> i tried lubuntu and lxde debian and lxde debian is much better
[22:43] <mcphail> lunitik: erm - not really
[22:43] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob, in what way?
[22:43] <ubuntunoob> and some of the packages are missing in powerpc ubuntu
[22:43] <ubuntunoob> and debian has all the new packages
[22:43] <ubuntunoob> :P
[22:44] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, lubuntu then... and thus why Ubuntu is awesome: choice and freedom
[22:44] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob, i think ubuntu is like mid range on the packages date
[22:44] <Gentoo64> not stable but not bleeding edge
[22:44] <mcphail> lunitik: I'd like to see real-world benchmarks on that for ext3,4 and btrfs if you have them
[22:44] <ubuntunoob> well i like my stuff to be as new as possible :P
[22:44] <Gentoo64> well dno how new debians packages are
[22:44] <ubuntunoob> so thats why i switched my powerpc emac to debian :P
[22:45] <Gentoo64> all i know is that the stable debian is ancient
[22:45] <Gentoo64> dont know about testing
[22:45] <ubuntunoob> i use squeeze and the wheezy repo
[22:45] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, umm, so you use wheezy
[22:45] <Gentoo64> newer isnt always better anyway
[22:46] <kain88> hi, does anyone know how to activate graphic acceleration for a ATI 5770 on 11.10?
[22:46] <ubuntunoob> well i cant even get lightspark on powerpc ubuntu and i can on debian
[22:46] <Gentoo64> kain88, try jockey-gtk
[22:46] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, precise is merging from wheezy atm, there should be little difference in package versions there, and where there is difference, Ubuntu will be more recent in every case
[22:46] <Gentoo64> kain88, or in system settings i think its there, additional drivers
[22:47] <scorinitron> back guys
[22:47] <ubuntunoob> so unless the powerpc port gets improved (i.e less laggy, better package support) im staying on debian
[22:47] <ubuntunoob> hey dude
[22:47] <scorinitron> hey!!
[22:47] <Gentoo64> ubuntu_, debian has the biggest support for processors
[22:47] <Gentoo64> out of all distros afaik
[22:47] <scorinitron> awesome one ...*boes as a sign of respect*
[22:47] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob, i mean
[22:47] <scorinitron> bows*
[22:47] <ubuntunoob> i found a command for removing gnome
[22:48] <scorinitron> really?
[22:48] <ubuntunoob> yeah
[22:48] <vulgarbulgar> AFTER INSTALLING A PRINTER DRIVER I RECEIVE AN ERROR REPORT STATING THAT THERE IS A MISSING FILTER IN CUPS, can someone help with this?
[22:48] <ubuntunoob> and are u on oneiric or natty>
[22:48] <kain88> jockey-gtk doesn't work because it will only suggest the fglrx-driver which does not work with the install X
[22:48] <scorinitron> sweet Instant Annihilation
[22:48] <soreau> ! caps | vulgarbulgar
[22:48] <Gentoo64> kain88, no idea then
[22:48] <scorinitron> Oneric
[22:48] <soreau> ! cups | vulgarbulgar
[22:48] <ubuntunoob> k
[22:48] <scorinitron> oneiric
[22:48] <Gentoo64> kain88, thats the only proper way to install them
[22:49] <Gentoo64> kain88, how does it not work?
[22:49] <kain88> i don't have 3d support on my newly installed 11.10
[22:49] <scorinitron> jezz I'll tell you, You guys are alot friendlier than the guys at #backtrack-linux
[22:49] <pythonirc101> I followed the instructions on this page: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2010/01/01/enable-automatic-login-in-ubuntu-9-10-server/ -- but for some reason on my 11.04, startx doesnt work, any ideas whats wrong?
[22:50] <mcphail> kain88: is it a very new card?
[22:50] <kain88> and with the fglrx driver the X just shows nothing
[22:50] <Gentoo64> sounds about right
[22:50] <kain88> the card is a year old and i worked perfectly with debian
[22:50] <ubuntunoob> scorinitron copy and paste this command:sudo apt-get remove adium-theme-ubuntu apg appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt at-spi2-core bamfdaemon banshee banshee-extension-soundmenu banshee-extension-ubuntuonemusicstore baobab binfmt-support bluez-gstreamer branding-ubuntu brasero brasero-cdrkit brasero-common checkbox checkbox-gtk cli-common compiz compiz-core compiz-gnome compiz-plugins-default compiz-plugins-main-default compizcon
[22:50] <__G0d__> Hi guys
[22:50] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob, what if he wants banshee? lol
[22:50] <__G0d__> Bye Guys
[22:51] <scorinitron> ubuntunoob, you sure this is safe?
[22:51] <ubuntunoob> yes
[22:51] <scorinitron> I mean that's a lot of stuff dood
[22:51] <scorinitron> XD
[22:51] <Gentoo64> what if he wants brasero?
[22:51] <aeon-ltd> scorinitron: all it is uninstalling crap
[22:51] <Mitochondria> Then tell him Banshee sucks
[22:51] <scorinitron> I know
[22:51] <scorinitron> XD
[22:51] <scorinitron> ok here I go
[22:51] <ubuntunoob> i have done on mine with perfect safety
[22:52] <scorinitron> unable to locate package compizo
[22:52] <CharminTheMoose> I've been wondering, if I removed Gnome on my system now, would it get pulled back in if I tried upgrading to 11.10?
[22:52] <scorinitron> I guess I just remove it from the commad
[22:52] <aeon-ltd> scorinitron: yup
[22:52] <ubuntunoob> gentoo64 he wont because xfburn is lighter
[22:52] <mcphail> kain88: i use nvidia myself, but the most up-to-date drivers are usually found in the x-swat ppa. Maybe that would help?
[22:53] <scorinitron> got it!
[22:53] <scorinitron> 183mb freed
[22:53] <ubuntunoob> your welcome :D
[22:53] <kain88> the driver I need is in debian testing so it should also be availabe in 11.10
[22:53] <Gentoo64> does the xfce package have all the xfce apps when you install it?
[22:53] <kain88> there should be a way to enable it
[22:53] <aeon-ltd> scorinitron: btw what are you trying to achieve?
[22:53] <ubuntunoob> pretty sure yeah
[22:53] <scorinitron> arigato
[22:53] <Gentoo64> oh ok
[22:53] <scorinitron> <<not Japanese
[22:54] <scorinitron> um aeon-ltd  I was originally trying to switch over to xfce just to check it out
[22:54] <chrisgeorge> For some reason, nginx is not starting on boot in 11.10, is there a way to force this?
[22:54] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running on a laptop using 11.04, when running window managers, all the power management stuff gets switched off. I'm writing a script to manage my battery power/writes to disk currently and I'm wondering if there are any already written tools for doing this?
[22:54] <scorinitron> then I got hooked with in 5 minutes of looking at it
[22:54] <|Long|> hi i got stuck at nx server stuff how can i boot back to GUI plz help?
[22:54] <scorinitron> so I'm removing everything that is not xfce on my pc XD
[22:54] <scorinitron> lol
[22:55] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: startx or 'nameof whatever login/desktop manager you use'
[22:55] <jerenept> don't do that
[22:55] <ubuntunoob> welcome to the mouse hole :D ^^  #xfcerox
[22:55] <Gentoo64> scorinitron, you do know xfce uses gtk and gnome stuff?
[22:55] <soreau> ! pm | vulgarbulgar
[22:55] <jerenept> you might need things like xserver
[22:55] <|Long|> aeon-ltd, i tried that cmd but nothing return
[22:56] <scorinitron> crap I might have did something wrong then
[22:56] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: try 'gdm' 'lightdm' 'slim'
[22:56] <CharminTheMoose> gtk is quite lightweight I find though
[22:56] <scorinitron> 1gtk
[22:56] <scorinitron> !gtk
[22:56] <scorinitron> ok
[22:57] <scorinitron> ubuntunoob, that command didn't remove any necessary real gtk stuff
[22:57] <ubuntunoob> dont forget dude
[22:57] <ubuntunoob> yeah
[22:57] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: any luck?
[22:57] <ubuntunoob> just gnome dependencies
[22:57]  * mcphail notices Gentoo64's previous IPv6 address with interest
[22:58] <|Long|> aeon-ltd, no good
[22:58] <|Long|> nothing return still in dos prompt
[22:58] <kain88> http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon
[22:59] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: DOS?
[22:59] <|Long|> on black screen
[22:59] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: you mean terminal/virtual terminal?
[22:59] <|Long|> yes
[22:59] <RidDrib> what I can do with ubuntu ?
[22:59] <aeon-ltd> RidDrib: anything
[22:59] <scorinitron> ubuntunoob, oh so now that I got it installed what do I do to get the Tron theme
[22:59] <scorinitron> and should I remove xfwm4?
[22:59] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: what gui did you have before?
[23:00] <scorinitron> if it's a windows manager wouldn
[23:00] <|Long|> kunbutu screen
[23:00] <scorinitron> wouldn't it be a bad thing to remove
[23:00] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: try 'kdm'
[23:00] <Daghdha> doesn't ubuntu use metrics for it's network connections?
[23:00] <ubuntunoob> score: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[23:01] <ubuntunoob> but before you do that
[23:01] <ubuntunoob> sudo apt-get remove xfwm4
[23:01] <Daghdha> It's no where in the applet i can find. Just in the ifconfig outpt
[23:01] <scorinitron> ok
[23:01] <ubuntunoob> in terminal
[23:01] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: success?
[23:01] <|Long|> nothing return
[23:01] <scorinitron> I know :) it would be sad if after 8 months I didn't know how to use the terminal lol
[23:01] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: how did you get into this?
[23:02] <mcored> hi guys can i disable the touchpad completely?
[23:02] <ubuntunoob> okay good :D
[23:02] <scorinitron> wait a minute I think it remved the xubuntu desktop
[23:02] <scorinitron> at least that
[23:02] <scorinitron> is what it says
[23:02] <aeon-ltd> scorinitron: that's a metapackage ie not a real package
[23:02] <Gentoo64> mcphail: lol
[23:02] <|Long|> well, as first all good to go i set ssh and remote desktop, then i install glftpd and after reboot it stuck here
[23:02] <scorinitron> !metapackage
[23:02] <aeon-ltd> scorinitron: its more of a list of packages as a set
[23:02] <pythonirc101> when i autologin into my ubuntu box, I see a README.txt that says -- ecryptfs-mount-private...? how to fix this?
[23:02] <scorinitron> oh
[23:03] <scorinitron> well I just learned the whole "!" is better than google lol
[23:03] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: type 'top' or 'htop' is X already running?
[23:03] <ubuntunoob> cxd
[23:03] <ubuntunoob> xd
[23:03] <ubuntunoob> !xubuntu-desktop
[23:03] <|Long|> iam sit in front console now
[23:03] <scorinitron> Their's something I need to know..
[23:04]  * Daghdha installs ifmetric
[23:04] <scorinitron> Is their a way I can set shortcuts
[23:04] <ubuntunoob> you can safely remove it but its reccommend the reinstall when upgrade
[23:04] <scorinitron> like ctrl +a= select all
[23:04] <scorinitron> and ctrl v = past
[23:04] <scorinitron> paste
[23:04] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: but is X runnning?
[23:04] <scorinitron> cause I keep doing it outta habit and nothing happens lol
[23:05] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: in the xfce settings menu somewhere
[23:05] <scorinitron> same for ctrl c
[23:05] <ubuntunoob> to upgrade the kernel, add the kernel ppa
[23:05] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: ctrl c etc should work
[23:05] <Gentoo64> theyre normal shortcuts
[23:05] <scorinitron> omg
[23:05] <scorinitron> their working?
[23:05] <Gentoo64> yeah
[23:05] <scorinitron> WTH
[23:05] <|Long|> yes ssh is running
[23:05] <Gentoo64> :s
[23:05] <scorinitron> lol
[23:05] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: they always work
[23:05] <Gentoo64> lol
[23:05] <scorinitron> it just started working
[23:05] <scorinitron> seriously
[23:05] <scorinitron> XD
[23:05] <FloodBot1> scorinitron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:06] <scorinitron> lol
[23:06] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: did you know you can middle click to paste?
[23:06] <ubuntunoob> ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[23:06] <mcored> is there a good screenshot application for ubuntu, i am missing zscreen where i can use a keyboard short to take a screenshot of the active window, or a window and automatically upload it to a host like imageshack and give me a URL in the clipboard all in one go...
[23:06] <scorinitron> ...
[23:06] <scorinitron> flood bot muted me
[23:06] <Gentoo64> yeah
[23:06] <ubuntunoob> add that to your sources
[23:07] <ubuntunoob> ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[23:07] <scorinitron> me?
[23:07] <mcored> i have tried Shutter and JShot so far
[23:07] <ubuntunoob> yeah
[23:07] <|Long|> aeon-ltd, any other throught?
[23:07] <scorinitron> oh what were you saying lol
[23:07] <ubuntunoob> go to Software sources and add it
[23:07] <ubuntunoob> or use terminal
[23:07] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: is X running?
[23:07] <scorinitron> that txt doc?
[23:07] <|Long|> yes ssh is running
[23:07] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: no is X running
[23:07] <scorinitron> what's the command
[23:07] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: wait did you run 'ssh -x?
[23:07] <ubuntunoob> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[23:08] <ubuntunoob> sudo apt-get update after you do that
[23:08] <pirateao> toy como loco, primera vez con ubuntu y primera vez con xchat
[23:08] <|Long|> no, iam sitting in front of console now aeon-ltd
[23:08] <pirateao> no entiendo nada
[23:08] <Gentoo64> !language | pirateao
[23:08] <scorinitron> ubuntunoob, can I pm u
[23:08] <pirateao> esto es un canal?
[23:08] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: 2 ideas left, cycle through ctrl-alt-fkeys 1through 11
[23:08] <ubuntunoob> yeah sure
[23:08] <ubuntunoob> id actually prefer that
[23:08] <pirateao> m
[23:09] <Daghdha> ywhat is considdered 'the interface' ? I run ifmetric to change metric on a interface but using eth1 doesn't work. What's the proper name i should use there?
[23:09] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: "the interface" ?
[23:09] <Gentoo64> normally eth0
[23:09] <aeon-ltd> Daghdha: eth0 ?
[23:09] <Daghdha> i only have eth1 and eth2
[23:09] <scorinitron> !kernal
[23:09] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: what one do you use?
[23:09] <Gentoo64> that one
[23:09] <ubuntunoob> !kernel
[23:09] <Daghdha> it doesn't complain when i say eth1, bit the metric doesn't change either
[23:09] <Daghdha> I use both
[23:10] <ubuntunoob> you dont have to compile
[23:10] <ubuntunoob> you can use debs
[23:10] <scorinitron> ubuntunoob, did I do the pm right?
[23:10] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: how do you get to the GUI normally?
[23:10] <ubuntunoob> yeah i see it
[23:10] <Gentoo64>
[23:10] <scorinitron> just making sure
[23:10] <Daghdha> Gentoo64: I use 1 for PC-PC connection and one for teh internets.
[23:10] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[23:10] <Daghdha> The pc-pc one seems to have priority now causing all outbound connections to fail :(
[23:10] <|Long|> aeon-ltd, holy shit ctrl+alt+f1 key works :))))))))))
[23:11] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: not sure about that
[23:11] <|Long|> aeon-ltd, thanks alot
[23:12] <Daghdha> kinda pity you can't change metric in GUI
[23:13] <kain88> \part
[23:13] <Gentoo64> \bye
[23:15] <Daghdha> heh ifconfig can't
[23:15] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: welcome
[23:15] <aeon-ltd> *you're
[23:15] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: afaik you need ifmetric
[23:16] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: but i personally have never had to play with it i use auto
[23:16] <Daghdha> i have that Gentoo64
[23:16] <Daghdha> It doesn't change the metrics
[23:16] <Daghdha> It is AUTO.
[23:16] <Gentoo64> yeah i dno why
[23:16] <Gentoo64> youll have to google it
[23:16] <Gentoo64> or try another channel if no one else can help
[23:17] <Gentoo64> did you restart net after you applied it (sorry if sounds silly)
[23:17] <Daghdha> no..
[23:17] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[23:17] <Gentoo64> try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[23:17] <Gentoo64> might be some other command
[23:17] <Daghdha> how does that relate to using 'service'? I always wonder
[23:18] <Gentoo64> service networking restart
[23:18] <Gentoo64> i think
[23:18] <Gentoo64> i think service just shortcut to /etc/init.d
[23:18] <Daghdha> Aw
[23:19] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: well anyway, retarting network wouldbe the first thing i try
[23:19] <Gentoo64> or restart the hwole comp
[23:19] <Gentoo64> thats what i do because im lazy
[23:19] <MonkeyDust> use service, not /etc/init.d
[23:19] <pragmaticenigma> service is not an alias... it's a safer alternative to using /etc/init.d
[23:19] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[23:19] <Gentoo64> sorry
[23:20] <Gentoo64> safer how?
[23:20] <Daghdha> sigh
[23:20] <Daghdha> no change
[23:20] <pragmaticenigma> part of it does nice shutdowns of services... so it doesn't accidentally shut down while the service is doing criticle tasks
[23:20] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: ah ok
[23:20] <sayed> hello every one
[23:21] <pragmaticenigma> like service apache2 stop would make sure that Apache doesn't shutdown in the middle of serving a request to a client
[23:21] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: thanks for info
[23:21] <Gentoo64> didnt know was any different
[23:21] <Gentoo64> i just assumed it was an alias to be more noob friendly
[23:21] <Stockholm_Angel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/747660/ looks like i broke ubuntu
[23:21] <aeon-ltd> i assume that running services in this way consumes slightly more ram? (like < 2mb?)
[23:22] <kool_tool> I have a 64 bit AMD pc, running 11.10.  The <IP_ADDRESS>-linux-2.6 intel.dep package will not install on my pc.  Are there any alternatives to using lightscribe ?
[23:22] <Daghdha> restart: unknown instance
[23:22] <MonkeyDust> Daghdha  try start
[23:22] <pragmaticenigma> in the end, Gentoo64, it really is just making the same system calls... but far less chance of something going very wrong
[23:22] <MonkeyDust> i just did it minutes ago
[23:23] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: yesh just some extra commands
[23:23] <pragmaticenigma> I'm curious if anyone has had any issues with Ubuntu 11.10 and Hyper-threaded processors?  Specifically Intel Pentium 4 with Hyper-threading
[23:23] <Daghdha> stop also gives unknown instance. start gives: networking stop/waiting
[23:23] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: never owned one myself. what issues anyway?
[23:24] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: is it possible to reboot the comp? would be easier
[23:24] <aeon-ltd> pragmaticenigma: ran for a year (8.04-8.10) no problems
[23:24] <pragmaticenigma> It will not boot, hangs on kernal-helper-thread loading
[23:24] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: weird. i take it it works with ht disabled in bios
[23:24] <Daghdha> i will, after i manually set op interfaces again because this auto stuff doesn't work right for some reason
[23:24] <pragmaticenigma> I've had no issues with this processor until 11.10 came out... gave me a near heart attack when my machine wouldn't come up
[23:25] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: you might have to do some googling on it
[23:25] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: must be some kernel option then
[23:25] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: but im sure your not the onyl one running a ht cpu :s
[23:25] <pragmaticenigma> yeah... I was able to turn of HT in bios, but wondering if anyone knew of a solution... the machine runs so much better with it on
[23:25] <d3f4c3d> Hi, how can i pull fresh list. file ?
[23:25] <pragmaticenigma> I know that the Intel Core i series have HT in them
[23:25] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: not all
[23:26] <d3f4c3d> .list file that it
[23:26] <Gentoo64> my i5 750 dont
[23:26] <pragmaticenigma> so strange that I would have the issue
[23:26] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: have you googled it? what kernel is 11.10 on?
[23:27] <pragmaticenigma> 11.10 is on Kernel 3.0.0-13-generic
[23:27] <mcphail> pragmaticenigma: HT seems to be working fine on atom
[23:28] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: does the 11.10 livecd work?
[23:28] <d3f4c3d> where should i look for Karmic fresh sources.list file ?? thanks
[23:28] <pragmaticenigma> No... I thought it did at first, but I don't remember if I tested it out on this machine or one of my other non-HT machines
[23:30] <scorinitron> is their a good IRC I can run in the terminal
[23:30] <scorinitron> ?
[23:30] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: well i certainly cant help :(
[23:30] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: irssi
[23:30] <mcphail> scorinitron: irssi
[23:30] <scorinitron> just to be cool?
[23:30] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: or weechat
[23:30] <scorinitron> XD
[23:30] <ubuntunoob> hey sorry
[23:30] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: irssi is good as well
[23:30] <ubuntunoob> i accendtly disconnect
[23:30] <Gentoo64> not just cool
[23:30] <Gentoo64> lol
[23:31] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: but youll need to spend a few hours setting it up the way you want
[23:31] <Gentoo64> not sure what weechat configs like
[23:31] <ubuntunoob> scorinitron
[23:31] <pragmaticenigma> I'm sure as more people install 11.10 it may appear on more bug reports... I certainly don't have the skill to generate the necessary testing for issuing a bug report
[23:31] <ubuntunoob> pm me again
[23:31] <ubuntunoob> i mis clicked
[23:32] <Pocomoke> How can I burn labels  onto a  DVD using Ubuntu 11.10 (64 bit)?
[23:32] <ubuntunoob> an accidently disconnected
[23:32] <scorinitron> yay he's alive
[23:32] <scorinitron> lol
[23:32] <Daghdha> Ok, i have manually enetered the values into the /etc/network/interfaces file
[23:32] <scorinitron> ubuntunoob do you run a terminal IRC?
[23:32] <scorinitron> wine and what ever program u use in windows
[23:32] <Daghdha> I am now rebooting as per Gentoo64 suggestion (wich for me is a lot of work :) and waiting for the result :D
[23:32] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: everyone uses irssi or weechat, mostly irssi
[23:32] <pragmaticenigma> Pocomoke: are you looking for lightscribe?
[23:32] <scorinitron> oh cool
[23:33] <mcphail> scorinitron: irssi + screen is the finest combination
[23:33] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: yea sorry, thought itd be easier than messing around trying to get the service to restart if it wasnt working
[23:33] <ubuntunoob> how do i pm someone ???
[23:33] <Gentoo64> mcphail: irssi + tmux is even better
[23:33] <Gentoo64> mcphail: lol
[23:33] <ubuntunoob> im on webchat freenode
[23:33] <scorinitron> right click their name
[23:33] <Gentoo64> jk
[23:34] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob: if you spend time on irc why not get a proper client?
[23:34] <pragmaticenigma> ubuntunoob: it depends on your client... all support questions and answers should really be done in the mainroom to allow others to benefit from the solutions you find
[23:34] <ubuntunoob> ok
[23:34] <Pocomoke> I can't install lightscribe, it is for  a 32bit pc
[23:34] <mcphail> Gentoo64: religious debate has no place in this channel. Do not disrespect screen.
[23:34] <pragmaticenigma> you can run 32 bit software on a 64 bit machine
[23:34] <Gentoo64> mcphail: you know i was joking :p
[23:34] <Daghdha> hmm
[23:34] <mcphail> :)
[23:35] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: still no luck?
[23:35] <Daghdha> It's not working at all now can't VNC into it :/
[23:35] <Gentoo64> well
[23:35] <Gentoo64> if i was you
[23:35] <Gentoo64> id revert those changes and do some googling
[23:35] <ubuntunoob> installing weechat now :D
[23:35] <Gentoo64> does weechat even support themes?
[23:36] <pragmaticenigma> Pocomoke: you can run 32 bit software on a 64 bit machine
[23:36] <pragmaticenigma> Pocomoke: There are forumns on various websites on how to get lightscribe tools to run in a 32 bit system
[23:36] <fayimora> hey guys i want to setup a simple web server on my linux machine for personal use….how do i go about it?
[23:37] <pragmaticenigma> fayimora: Read up on installing Apache for Ubuntu
[23:37] <jerenept> sudo tasksel
[23:37] <fayimora> pragmaticenigma: any links?
[23:37] <Pocomoke> I'll try again, but it said I had the wrong architechure '1386'
[23:38] <Daghdha> Gentoo64: Just my NAS. No man overbboard, hooked up keyboard to it and gonna try some more stuff.
[23:38] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: ok. sorry i cant help more. got no experience with it
[23:38] <pythonirc101> anyone has done an autologin in 11.04 here? I can autologin, but my home directory seems to be encrypted at autologin
[23:38] <pragmaticenigma> fayimora: Google is a good place to start.  Search for "Ubuntu Apache Setup Guide"
[23:38] <Daghdha> no worries. it'll get figured out sooner or later :P google-by-error style
[23:39] <Gentoo64> pythonirc101: thats why on the installer afaik it forces a login pass with encrypted home
[23:39] <Gentoo64> because you need the pass to decrypt it
[23:39] <pythonirc101> Gentoo64: how can i autologin on my ubuntu box?
[23:40] <Gentoo64> idk
[23:40] <mcphail> fayimora: other webservers are available as well but it is worth taking a couple of hours to learn basic apache2 setup
[23:40] <pythonirc101> I tried this: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2010/01/01/enable-automatic-login-in-ubuntu-9-10-server/
[23:40] <Gentoo64> pythonirc101: why would you want to, with encrypted /home?
[23:40] <pragmaticenigma> pythonirc101: The encrypted home directory feature requires you to login with a password each time.  It will not work with the autologin feature
[23:40] <Gentoo64> pythonirc101: your sort of defeating the point of encryption there
[23:40] <pythonirc101> pragmaticenigma: how do i get rid of the encrypted home?
[23:40] <fayimora> mcphail: where can i ge a tut on that?
[23:40] <Joey_> hi guys
[23:40] <Joey_> how can i open a program ubuntu?
[23:41] <Joey_> can anyone help me?
[23:41] <pragmaticenigma> pythonirc101: Setup a new user without the encrypted home directory feature... copy all of your files to the new user account and then delete the old account
[23:41] <Gentoo64> Joey_: click the icon
[23:41] <Joey_> but im trying to install teamviewer
[23:41] <Joey_> how can i install teamviewer
[23:41] <JokesOnYou77> Joey_: What program do you need?
[23:41] <Gentoo64> Joey_: try sudo apt-get install teamviewer
[23:41] <Joey_> TeamViewer
[23:41] <Joey_> ok
[23:41] <Gentoo64> might not be there isk
[23:41] <Gentoo64> idk
[23:41] <mcphail> fayimora: there are _thousands_ on teh interweb. Apache2 has been around on Ubuntu and Debian for years. Have a browse through debian-administration.org for example
[23:41] <iceroot> pythonirc101: auto-login for the server-edition?
[23:42] <Joey_> E: UNable to locate package teamviewer
[23:42] <Joey_> ????
[23:42] <Joey_> huh
[23:42] <pragmaticenigma> fayimora: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[23:42] <capcook> i don't think teamviewer is in the official repo
[23:42] <fayimora> mcphail: do i use ubuntu or debian?
[23:42] <Gentoo64> Joey_: that means its either not there, or the wrong name
[23:42] <iceroot> Joey_: download teamviewer from the website, then just start it by clicking on teamviewer.exe  also make sure wine is installed
[23:42] <Gentoo64> !teamviewer
[23:42] <fayimora> pragmaticenigma: thanks
[23:42] <Joey_> wine?
[23:42] <JokesOnYou77> Joey_: Do you actually need TeamViewer specifically or just a remote access viewer?
[23:42] <Joey_> what's wine?
[23:42] <capcook> an emulator for win
[23:42] <mcphail> fayimora: the apache2 setup is almost identical
[23:42] <iceroot> !wine | Joey_
[23:43] <capcook> sudo apt-get install wine
[23:43] <iceroot> capcook: wine is not an emulator :)
[23:43] <capcook> ahahah
[23:43] <capcook> :D
[23:43] <Joey_> ok
[23:43] <iceroot> Joey_: there is only a windows-version of teamviewer, so you need wine
[23:43] <Joey_> it's installing
[23:43]  * pragmaticenigma will never understand why someone finds it easier to load up IRC for something that can be googled
[23:43] <Joey_> how do i use wine?
[23:43] <Gentoo64> Joey_: sorry i didnt know teamviewer was windows only. didnt even know what it is :D
[23:43] <iceroot> Joey_: just click the teamviewer.exe after wine is installed
[23:43] <Joey_> there is teamviewer for linux aswell.
[23:43] <Gentoo64> Joey_: once you install wine you can just double click .exe (windows progs)
[23:43] <mcphail> fayimora: traditionally people have run debian on servers and ubuntu on the desktop.  It's really simple but you'll need to know where the config files live and the syntax
[23:44] <iceroot> Mitochondria: no need that here
[23:45] <capcook> well you have to download the installer of teamviewer
[23:45] <JokesOnYou77> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/03/install-teamviewer-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[23:45] <capcook> and double click the icon
[23:45] <Joey_> ok
[23:45] <fayimora> mcphail: i have ubuntu installed.. so i guess i would just go on with it
[23:45] <JokesOnYou77> ^instructions for TeamViewer install in ubuntu
[23:45] <Joey_> how do i open a folder if i downloaded something?
[23:45] <Joey_> can i get the commands for ubuntu?
[23:46] <mcphail> fayimora: yes indeed
[23:46] <Joey_> i just got the system76, and i have no clue how to use it.
[23:46] <capcook> Joey_: ??
[23:46] <fayimora> mcphail: a friend was saying i would need to get and ip and blah blah blah…how do o know the ip of my computer from an ubuntu machine? Also, how do i kill the guy so i use less memory
[23:46] <Joey_> but it's usefull
[23:46] <pragmaticenigma> JokesOnYou77: The "linux" version is actually a pre-wrapped wine installation of Team Viewer
[23:46] <Joey_> how can i install lampp?
[23:46] <mcphail> fayimora: your IP address is set by your internet service provider. Are you on a static or dynamic IP?
[23:47] <c_smith> Joey_: , if you downloaded something, just browse the folder in Nautilus/Dolphin/whatever File Manager you use.
[23:47] <iceroot> Joey_: sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5
[23:47] <Hilikus> is there any way to keep processes separated in the unity bar? i have two icons, one to launch the local terminal and another to lauch a remote terminal, but once opened, both of them get grouped together. is there a way to fix this?
[23:47] <capcook> Joey_: http://www.lullabot.com/videos/install-local-web-server-ubuntu
[23:47] <JokesOnYou77> pragmaticenigma: Ahh, I had no idea, I always just use the default remote viewer
[23:47] <fayimora> mcphail: hmm lemme just check the difference between those 2 first
[23:47] <jrib> !lamp | Joey_
[23:48] <capcook> Joey_: the video is for ubuntu 7.something something has changed
[23:48] <pragmaticenigma> JokesOnYou77: yeah... I do as well... seems more and more developers are taking the easy way out and make pre-packed wine installations... Navicat does the same thing with it's SQL GUIs
[23:48] <mcphail> fayimora: if you don't know, you're probably on a dynamic serice
[23:48] <iceroot> "!lamp" should just show "sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server" the guide in the wiki with tasksel is just confusing...
[23:48] <Joey_> "E: Unable to lock the administartor directory (/var/lib/dpkg/). os there another process using it?
[23:48] <Joey_> ??????????/
[23:49] <fayimora> mcphail: hope its dynamic but i want a static one :( how o i ge tone?
[23:49] <Joey_> anyone?
[23:49] <iceroot> Joey_: you used sudo?
[23:49] <Joey_> yes
[23:49] <pragmaticenigma> Joey_: You have another program trying to do a system update or install software
[23:49] <iceroot> Joey_: is another process e.g. like software-center running?
[23:49] <JokesOnYou77> pragmaticenigma: As great as wine is, I've never found that it really works well for the programs I want.  I usually just run a VM if I absolutely need a Windows app
[23:49] <Joey_> yeah
[23:49] <Joey_> im installing wine
[23:49] <mcphail> fayimora: you need to speak to your ISP. Dynamic addresses are not too bad, though
[23:49] <iceroot> Joey_: then wait until its finished
[23:49] <Joey_> ok
[23:49] <Joey_> :)
[23:49] <Joey_> i love linux
[23:49] <Joey_> are you all on linux?
[23:50] <capcook> me yes
[23:50] <fayimora> mcphail: lol ok would hang around with it then..dnt think i can talk to my isp
[23:50] <pragmaticenigma> JokesOnYou77: I find it works well for simple apps... I use it for both Navicat (since I can't find a comparable MySQL manager) and for Quicken
[23:50] <mcphail> fayimora: if you pay them money for the connection they should talk to you...
[23:50]  * SolarisBoy loving up linux
[23:51] <fayimora> mcphail: am sure i don't need a guy on the linux machine ryt? I mean i could ssh into it
[23:51] <c_smith> Joey_: if you ask a Linux channel if they're using Linux, the answer from most of the people will say they are.
[23:51] <codex> lol
[23:51] <Joey_> oh ok
[23:51] <Joey_> lol
[23:51] <JokesOnYou77> fayimora: to find your current external IP visit: http://www.whatsmyip.org/  And to get get around the dynamic IP problem, get a free account at Dyndns and configure your router so that it will update dyndns when your IP changes
[23:51] <pragmaticenigma> fayimora: unless your a business.. most ISPs will not give you a static IP address... you will need to learn how to use a service like DynDNS or No-IP.com to allow you to update your sites url to point to the right address each time your ISP updates your IP address
[23:51] <fayimora> mcphail: its a uni accommodation connection
[23:51] <c_smith> Joey_: Ubuntu is Linux, just thought I'd say those points.
[23:51] <SolarisBoy> Ubuntu is based on a linux kernel yeps
[23:51] <mcphail> fayimora: can you ssh into your machine from outside the campus?
[23:52] <iceroot> why can i remove the current running kernel with apt-get and its still running? everything already in ram?
[23:52] <SolarisBoy> its in memory
[23:52] <SolarisBoy> reboot applies it
[23:52] <erkan^> How make I tomboy for startup when my pc start
[23:52] <erkan^> ?
[23:52] <c_smith> Joey_: a better question for an Ubuntu channel that is related is what Linux Distro are they using.
[23:52] <Gentoo64> iceroot: because its just the /usr/src/files no?
[23:52] <fayimora> pragmaticenigma: oh ok cool…would look at dydns now.. but am sure i need a router for that ryt?
[23:52] <Joey_> ok
[23:52] <Gentoo64> iceroot: or is it gone from /boot?
[23:52] <iceroot> Gentoo64: /boot/foobar
[23:52] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[23:52] <capcook> Joey_: :)
[23:52] <SimonPHOENIX> hello guys
[23:52] <Gentoo64> must be in ram then, its only a few mb
[23:52] <SolarisBoy> fayimora: they have host based dyndns clients i believe
[23:53] <fayimora> mcphail: haven't really tried that…
[23:53] <pragmaticenigma> fayimora: You probably already have a router on your home network
[23:53] <SolarisBoy> the kernel is loaded into memory....
[23:53] <Joey_> Unpacking lib32asound2 (from .../lib32asound2_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu10_amd64.deb) ...
[23:53] <Joey_> Processing triggers for man-db ...
[23:53] <Joey_> Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0 ...
[23:53] <Joey_> Processing triggers for doc-base ...
[23:53] <Joey_> Processing 29 changed doc-base files...
[23:53] <FloodBot1> Joey_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:53] <Joey_> Registering documents with scrollkeeper...
[23:53] <SolarisBoy> it requires a reboot to load anew one
[23:53] <SimonPHOENIX> is anybody here from Stockholm?
[23:53] <John> Has anyone been having sound problems with ubuntu 11.10? with 3.5mm jacks?
[23:53] <c_smith> Joey_: but this is not a social channel, if you want to be social, I'll have to direct you to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:53] <fayimora> pragmaticenigma: am using uni network
[23:53] <fayimora> its lan
[23:53] <SolarisBoy> not social by far
[23:53] <mcphail> fayimora: when you say you want to run a "personal web server", do you need to see the webpages outside campus?
[23:54] <pragmaticenigma> fayimora: You really should check that your school doesn't have rules against running web servers on their network
[23:54] <fayimora> mcphail: yes.. just something i can host a few web applications on and show a few friends
[23:54] <c_smith> yeah, this channel is meant for support, so lets try to keep it that way.
[23:54] <Sanus> So, I'm back  People at the Forum couldn't tell me anything more useful than, "Unity isn't as bad as you think it is.." when trying to find driver support for 10.04 on my Compaq Presario CQ57
[23:54] <fayimora> pragmaticenigma: they don't..am a computer science student so am allowed to
[23:54] <SolarisBoy> keep it DRY
[23:55] <SolarisBoy> KISS...
[23:55] <pragmaticenigma> fayimora: Since you are on campus, check around for a Linux users group... almost every University has one... they'd be Ideal for help you setup your server
[23:56] <mcphail> fayimora: The first thing you'll need to do is get someone to let you expose port 80 to the outside world
[23:56] <fayimora> pragmaticenigma: yeah i told the systems guys but they really don't have my time … they are working on some big project in sch
[23:56] <Joey_> some message came when i finished installing wine
[23:56] <Joey_> i cant press ok
[23:56] <Sanus> My computer currently won't detect any hardware to update drivers, and nothing is controlled normally.
[23:56] <fayimora> mcphail: thought as much
[23:56] <szal> Joey_: define 'some message'
[23:57] <mcphail> fayimora: no point installing apache if noone will be able to access it
[23:57] <Sanus> Updating Alsa to the latest version, because apparently all that is in the repository is an old version.
[23:57] <Joey_> "IMPORANT-READ CAREFULLY: This microsoft ENd-usr license agreement ("EULA") is legal agreement between
[23:57] <Joey_> blah blah blah
[23:57] <Artemis3> fayimora, can you access any other port from outside maybe above 1024?
[23:57] <Joey_> and then there is a ok button
[23:57] <pragmaticenigma> fayimora: This would be different that whom you went too... Don't use the school's staff as a source... other students are better... find someone in your dorm that might know more about what your trying to do
[23:57] <Joey_> i cant click
[23:57] <FloodBot1> Joey_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <capcook> tab
[23:57] <Joey_> OH lol
[23:57] <pragmaticenigma> you'll learn a lot more and be less frustrated if you can find someone to help you in person
[23:57] <fayimora> pragmaticenigma: ok
[23:57] <secleinteer> hi, i accidentally removed apt-get and dpkg from my system. how can i manually install the dpkg .deb so that i can start fixing this?
[23:58] <iceroot> secleinteer: reinstall is a good way
[23:58] <secleinteer> iceroot: other than that
[23:58] <iceroot> secleinteer: or a live-syste, and copy back the binaries
[23:58] <secleinteer> ubuntu doesn't come with build tools right?
[23:58] <John> Can anyone help me with a sound issue? I have been working at this for the past two days with no luck. please help!
[23:58] <pragmaticenigma> secleinteer: there really isn't any otherway than to start over... there are a lot of customized setup scripts that aren't included in the .deb files
[23:58] <iceroot> secleinteer: and of course without dpkg you cant install deb-files
[23:59] <secleinteer> well i was thinking of just downloading the dpkg sources and compiling it
[23:59] <Sanus> oh crap
[23:59] <Sanus> disconnected from the internet.
[23:59] <secleinteer> like you would do to set up dpkg on a lfs box
[23:59] <pragmaticenigma> secleinteer: You would need the package manager to help you get the build tools and support libraries installed
[23:59] <secleinteer> but i'm guessing that compilers aren't included in the default ubuntu install?
[23:59] <mcphail> secleinteer: no
[23:59] <iceroot> secleinteer: correct
[23:59] <secleinteer> alright, i guess i'll just reinstall then
[23:59] <secleinteer> thanks for the help