[20:29] <theadmin> michealPW: Yeah. Then again I have no macs anywhere near me (thank goodness, because otherwise I'd be fined for breaking them to bits), so I'm not sure. This is just a suggestion.
[20:29] <theadmin> tony_: Backtrack is not supported.
[20:29] <oz6oh> MonkeyDust i use terminal c and a program
[20:29] <Bray90820_> i am on a 12 CORE MacPro as we speak
[20:29] <Bray90820_> and have a macbook behind me
[20:30] <tony_> an one use   backtrack5r3
[20:30] <streulma> Bray90820_ and use Ubuntu native ? :)
[20:30] <Bray90820_> yes
[20:30] <streulma> nice :)
[20:31] <Bray90820_> it's a triboot with windows 7, OSX, and ubuntu
[20:31] <oz6oh> MonkeyDust is my question not good here ???
[20:31] <betrayd>  ubuntu with OPEN source graphics!
[20:32] <Bray90820_> i wish i could use the open grahics driver
[20:32] <tony_> hiiiiiiiii
[20:32] <Bray90820_> but if i do my video card won't shut up
[20:33] <DJones> !backtrack | tony_
[20:34] <nyuszika7h> Midori froze, I killed it with SIGTERM, then it crashed with SIGSEGV (Cannot access memory at address 0xb587941f)... is that normal?
[20:34] <streulma> anyone interested in a opensource Java project from us ?
[20:35] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know, how can I move fast between workspace?
[20:35] <DJones> !pm > tony_
[20:35] <mojtaba> Is there any shortcut
[20:35] <theadmin> mojtaba: Ctrl-Alt-arrow keys
[20:35] <theadmin> mojtaba: Also, hold down your Super key to see a list of handy keyboard shortcuts.
[20:35] <mojtaba> theadmin: I want to go directly to the desired workspace.
[20:36] <theadmin> mojtaba: Ah... Hm.
[20:36] <mojtaba> theadmin: I knew this, but I have 6 workspaces and do not want to reveal those in the middle, when switching.
[20:36] <theadmin> mojtaba: Don't know of anything like that, might be possible to do though
[20:37] <tony_> Hello friends how use ssh
[20:37] <ThinkT510> !ssh | tony_
[20:37] <betrayd> mojtaba: if it's ewmh compliant wmctrl might work
[20:39] <tony_> hay
[20:39] <tony_> Hello friends how use ssh
[20:39] <johnjohn1011> is compiz gtk loader viable?  or not really
[20:40] <Gnea> !ssh | tony_
[20:40] <DJones> tony_: You've just been given the instructions on how to use SSH, please read them
[20:40] <transit441> anyone here have experience setting up openvpn on an ubuntu server
[20:40] <transit441> that can spare 5-10 minutes
[20:40] <transit441> ia lmost ogt it done but im snaggged on soimetime
[20:40] <streulma> michaelPW: why isn't Mac OS X good ?
[20:41] <transit441> streulma: OSX is fantastic
[20:41] <transit441> im a programmera nd i use OSX
[20:41] <joroaf> /ns
[20:41] <ThinkT510> streulma: not a discussion for this channel
[20:41] <transit441> C C++ PHP PHP java python
[20:41] <transit441> anyone wanna help me with a VPN problem?
[20:41] <streulma> transit441: openvpn yes
[20:41] <transit441> can uhelp me
[20:41] <streulma> yes
[20:44] <michealPW> I found for the price-point, OS X is not up to par. Even compared to completely free operating systems, like Ubuntu, OS X is pretty bad.
[20:44] <DJones> !ot | michealPW
[20:45] <g480> how gadmei utv380 usb tvtuner work on ubuntu?
[20:45] <himanshu_linux> hi , I am using ubuntu 13.04  and after logging in .. gets crash (and nothing work) . So i typed "unity" in terminal , the got even worse ..... PLease Help :(
[20:45] <bindi> can I ask about Cacti on ubuntu? I just installed it using 'sudo apt-get install cacti' and configured everything, but now it gives me this error: ERROR: opening '/var/lib/cacti/rra/localhost_mem_buffers_3.rrd': No such file or directory
[20:45] <michealPW> It's completely lacking in the field of Security. It's a wide-open system, the deeper you dig. Riddle with bugs, due to Apple's constant urge to re-invent well established wheels, such as MIME Types.
[20:46] <himanshu_linux> how to reset it??
[20:46] <michealPW> Apologies, DJones.
[20:46] <michealPW> *zips it*
[20:47] <DJones> michealPW: The discussion would be fine in #ubuntu-offtopic, just not something to support in this channel
[20:47] <michealPW> I don't know why I always forget about #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:47] <michealPW> LOL I should probably be in there, not here :P
[20:47] <himanshu_linux> My system suddenly got crashed ... and nothing is working . I am using 13.04 . please help ..
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> himanshu_linux  any error messages?
[20:49] <himanshu_linux> No
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> !work | himanshu_linux
[20:51] <JoshDreamland> Hi; nautilus does this cool new thing wherein, instead of just selecting the first filename matching the string I type, it performs a painfully slow search for files containing that text. Is there a setting for that, or was this another executive decision I'm going to have to take or leave?
[20:51] <himanshu_linux> MonkeyDust : when i logged in system my , it gets crash... so i typed unity in terminal thinking it will restore .. but now nothing is working. Right now i am using Guest Account of the system ..
[20:51] <MoL0ToV> hello world
[20:52] <himanshu_linux> MonkeyDust : yesterday i have installed the system
[20:53] <JoshDreamland> never mind, I should have switched to XFCE when Torvalds did two years ago. Cheers.
[20:53] <Luke23ae> I got a question: can you upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04 from within ubuntu?
[20:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> Hullo. I've installed precise x32 on an acer aspire one d270-1824; the network manager sees the various ap's and attempts connection, but it does not get a real connection. the live cd connected fine-ish, but not in-install. iwconfig shows the ap mac just fine. is it working and just not connecting or is it malfunctioning.
[20:54] <dakotawulfy> Luke23ae first to 12.04 to 12.10 then 12.10 to 13.04
[20:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> Luke23ae: I would not suggest it. one 13.04 is still pretty cutting edge, and two in-install upgrades tend to be messy.
[20:54] <Luke23ae> dakotawulfy: thanks
[20:54] <Luke23ae> ntzrmtthihu777: alright, then I guess it's too early now
[20:55] <dakotawulfy> Luke23ae I was able to get it to work on the 64 bit to work but not the 32 bit
[20:56] <Luke23ae> dakotawulfy: alright. I wasn't aware it's not really stable yet. I just wanted to install the latest version
[20:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> Luke23ae: I stick to lts's myself, as 1. they are supported longer, 2. I've had better experience with them, and 3. should you want to do an in-install upgrade, you can jump straight between lts versions without having to do the intermediary versions.
[20:57] <nsaquatics> afternoon... anybody have a second to help me with my Ubuntu 10.04 LTS server? mysql server doesn't want to start because of permissions problems.. As far as I can tell, it has all the right permissions, but still does not want start telling me that it is unable to read/write to the PID file.
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> nsaquatics, You might check in #ubuntu-server
[20:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> !EOL | nsaquatics
[20:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: oh wait, lts server is 5 years, huh?
[20:58] <nsaquatics> wilee-nilee: Thanks, will do.
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, Yes
[21:00] <Luke23ae> can you expect that the latest versions of applications will be available for 12.10 or will they usually be available for 13.10 first? (or at least are the usually released for 12.10 in a reasonable time)?
[21:01] <michealPW> Luke23ae: You might not want to hear this, but the answer is most likely 12.04... Not 12.10 *or* 13.04.
[21:01] <michealPW> 12.04 is LTS and supported into 2017... Software development companies wet their pants for this kind of thing.
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> Luke23ae, expect nothing to many people involved.
[21:01] <michealPW> A garuantee that the platform will not move/change until 2017.. Brilliant :P
[21:02] <DJones> Luke23ae: Newer version's of software generally don't get brought out once an Ubuntu version has been released
[21:02] <Luke23ae> ok, thanks for your anwsers guys :)
[21:02] <DJones> !newest | Luke23ae This explains it better,
[21:03] <Luke23ae> ubottu: thanks
[21:03] <Luke23ae> LOL
[21:08] <johnjohn1011> if you upgrade, you should back up just in case.
[21:09] <Jonah_d> Error on update to 13.04 -> http://pastebin.com/j223usHx   HELP?
[21:13] <shogoot> Anyone to help me troubleshoot this? Forbidden You don't have permission to access /smn.php on this server. Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at <IP_ADDRESS> Port 80 - Seems i got the var/www direcotry messed up rightswise, and i can t mak emy web page dispaly....
[21:17] <kkerwin> Stupid question: how do I figure out what version of Ubuntu I'm running? I've updated so many times I can't keep track ...
[21:17] <shogoot> uname -a
[21:17] <kkerwin> shogoot: Didn't give me the info I needed.
[21:17] <MoL0ToV> bye to all
[21:17] <kkerwin> shogoot: Just got: Linux frodo 3.2.0-40-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 25 21:22:10 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:17] <adamk> kkerwin: lsb_release -a
[21:18] <shogoot> cat /etc/*-release
[21:18] <kkerwin> adamk: Excellent. Thank you.
[21:18] <kkerwin> I'm running 12.04; how do I upgrade again? Command line is fine.
[21:18] <shogoot> sudo update, tehn upgrade
[21:18] <kkerwin> Current version is 13.04, if memory serves.
[21:18] <theadmin> kkerwin: You can only update to 12.10 and then to 13.04.
[21:19] <kkerwin> theadmin: Sounds good. How do I go about doing that, please?
[21:19] <mustmodify> Just installed 13.04. On login, screen is having some kind of drawing problem. Here's a screen shot of a picture from my phone. https://url.odesk.com/g1toqf
[21:20] <theadmin> kkerwin: That's a tedious process and will take a few hours. If that's fine, then modify the file /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades so that Prompt=normal, after which run "sudo do-release-upgrade".
[21:20] <gerritvk> Can someone help me with zfs on 12.04. I have imported the pool but it won't mount. When I try any commands concerning zfs or zpool the console just sits there
[21:20] <kkerwin> theadmin: Better now than later. Thank you for your help.
[21:20] <Vivekananda> bcb2
[21:20] <theadmin> kkerwin: I personally suggest waiting for 14.04 and upgrading directly to that (LTS -> LTS is possible).
[21:21] <theadmin> kkerwin: 13.04 doesn't have any noticable changes, really, apart from maybe better hardware support if that's what you're looking for
[21:21] <kkerwin> theadmin: Having difficulty installing WoW under the version of Wine available to me at present.
[21:21] <theadmin> kkerwin: eeeh. Upgrading for that isn't worth it.
[21:21] <theadmin> kkerwin: Check winehq.org, they provide repositories with the latest WINE for supported Ubuntu releases.
[21:22] <kkerwin> theadmin: Very well; I'll try that.
[21:22] <kkerwin> theadmin: Thank you again for your help. Also, when will 14.04 be released? Don't want to fall off the bandwagon again. :D
[21:23] <theadmin> kkerwin: Ubuntu release versions are year.month, so... 2014, April.
[21:23] <mustmodify> Just installed 13.04. On login, screen is having some kind of rendering issue:  https://url.odesk.com/g1toqf
[21:23] <kkerwin> theadmin: Good to know; thanks again.
[21:23] <gerritvk> Can someone help me with zfs on 12.04. I have imported the pool but it won't mount the datasets. When I try any commands concerning zfs or zpool the console just sits there. I have gotten it to work 1 time.
[21:23] <theadmin> kkerwin: So in short, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[21:24] <kkerwin> theadmin: Ooer. You just saved me about five minutes of googling; thanks!
[21:25] <seronis> recently broke my ties to Win7 and figured out most of my essential features.  having an issue with PeerGuardian though
[21:25] <seronis> is there some hidden way to load an iplist as an ALLOW list?
[21:25] <kkerwin> seronis: Congratulations on the divorce.
[21:25] <seronis> the gui seems to allow lists for blocking, and only individual IP/ports for whitelisting
[21:26] <seronis> kkerwin,  i noticed fully a third of my steam library is on Steam Linux,  so no reason not to give it a month as a trial run
[21:27] <theadmin> seronis: They're running WoW, that has no Linux version.
[21:27] <kkerwin> seronis: Indeed. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with your problem, but good luck.
[21:27] <seronis> kkerwin,  thanks anyways =-)
[21:27] <seronis> theadmin, i've used WINE in the past.. im aware it can get a lot of stuff going but its nice to have native versions too
[21:28] <Dr_willis> You could make up some script and use iptables directly seronis . but it will all depend on what services you are doing and trying to bock
[21:28] <rypervenche> seronis: If you want it for all services, iptables would be the best way to go about it.
[21:28] <gerritvk> Can someone help me with zfs on 12.04. I have imported the pool but it won't mount the datasets. When I try any commands concerning zfs or zpool the console just sits there. I have gotten it to work 1 time.
[21:28] <Dr_willis> !info peerguardian
[21:28] <seronis> Dr_willis,  im more interested in getting the same GUI features that PeerBlock had.   being able to see exact what is getting blocked as it happens and simply allow things on temp or perm basis
[21:28] <theadmin> seronis: I agree. Then again, if the software runs natively, it's wine version is likely to perform just as fine. Was the case with many Source-based games for me, for instance, even those not ported yet (e.g. Portal 2)
[21:28] <seronis> and still manage the large lists
[21:29] <SunSoul> who summons me?
[21:29] <Dr_willis> seronis,  peerblock is just for blocking torrent monitoring sites isent it?
[21:29] <mustmodify> Can someone recommend a channel on which I might find help with my graphics issue?
[21:29] <seronis> Dr_willis,  its the same thing as peer guardian.. its a massive  blacklist/whitelist manager for all traffic
[21:29] <BHXSpecter> okay googling for errors has worked a on a few errors but now I have this error and I can't find a result for it though http://pastebin.com/GJt6Ynyu
[21:29] <theadmin> mustmodify: This is the right channel, but it seems nobody who can help is online. Try http://askubuntu.com
[21:29] <seronis> Dr_willis, at some point it branched off FROM the PG code
[21:30] <mustmodify> theadmin: ok thanks
[21:30] <rypervenche> seronis: Personally I would use a different torrent client that allows it from within the program, like qbittorrent.
[21:30] <Dr_willis> seronis,  I looked into it once i recall ages ago..  I just recall people thinking it made torrenting 'safe from the cops' which it definatly does not. ;)
[21:30] <kkerwin> Hrm. I know that #winehq would be a better place to ask this, but they're silent: trying to install WoW, and keep getting it hanging at "Checking for Updates". Also, getting this error in the console: ". err:wininet:open_http_connection create_netconn failed: 10036
[21:30] <seronis> rypervenche, Dr_willis :   but torrents is only a small part of it.  i dont want it limited to one program.   want it system wide
[21:30] <rypervenche> seronis: Then I would use iptables.
[21:31] <seronis> but IP tables (when i was looking it over, could be wrong) looked like its not good for feedback
[21:31] <rypervenche> seronis: Assuming you have a list of IP addresses.
[21:31] <theadmin> kkerwin: Well, wine isn't supported here so you'll have better luck in #winehq regardless. Check the Wine Application Database for your app, it might have fixes for common problems with it.
[21:31] <BHXSpecter> stuck at hospital until monday morning otherwise I would just back up my code and reinstall 12.10 and install everything again, but figured I have two days...might as well try to fix it myself
[21:31] <Dr_willis> seronis,  to be honest.. i dont even see the need for it running on a linux box.    Been there, done that. :(
[21:32] <seronis> rypervenche,  im  4 days into my linux experiment..  hadnt found that out yet =-)
[21:32] <seronis> guess i'll keep looking into iptables too
[21:32] <rypervenche> seronis: That's a fairly simple-to-use GUI frontend for iptables.
[21:32] <Dr_willis> seronis,  to to be honest with you - I think you are still in a 'windows mindset' where you think such things are needed.  when they really are not  needed for a typical linux setup.
[21:32] <seronis> can it also manage downloading the various lists from the urls where they are maintained
[21:32] <theadmin> rypervenche, seronis: correction: gufw is a frontend for, well, ufw. Which is a frontend for iptables, I guess.
[21:32] <rypervenche> seronis: But like they said, you probably don't even need to block all of those IP addresses.
[21:33] <Dr_willis> but have fun ;)
[21:33] <rypervenche> theadmin: Right right.
[21:33] <theadmin> rypervenche: Eh, just saying because some might have something against ufw for one reason or another.
[21:33] <seronis> peerguardian linux installed nice.. and its 99% matching peerblock from windows.. right now the only issue im having is figuring out how to get it to load the lists as whitelists
[21:34] <seronis> was hoping someone had familiarity with that specific program.  gonna look into IPtables more too though
[21:34] <rypervenche> seronis: For a beginner, iptables will look quite confusing, especially as it's command line only.
[21:34] <seronis> im 35..  CLI isnt difficult
[21:34] <seronis> =-)
[21:35] <rypervenche> All right.
[21:35] <Dr_willis> seronis,  when  i cant find decent docs for ubuntu for a complex topic - i often look at the archwiki pages -->    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PeerGuardian_Linux
[21:35] <deadweasel> what happened to the unity launcher?  I have a 5 sec delay every time I hit it now (just did dist-upgrade)
[21:35] <Dr_willis> seronis,  it mentions --->  /etc/pgl/allow.p2p lists custom IP ranges that will not be filtered.
[21:36] <seronis> didnt realize Arch information would apply for something derived from Debian -> Ubuntu.   thanks for the information (everyone) should probably have enough to be able to find what i need
[21:37] <seronis> unless someone knows the exact answer of course.   =-)
[21:37] <Dr_willis> services and configs should be about the same.. but there can be differances
[21:37] <Dr_willis> the  peerblock site/docs most likely have the definitive answer somewhere
[21:38] <seronis> they just kept referencing the block lists and the (easily found) manual whitelisting of INDIVIDUAL ip/port combos
[21:38] <Dr_willis> http://sourceforge.net/projects/peerguardian/
[21:38] <seronis> the program has the functionality to import lists that are maintained offsite..  and the windows version lets you assign those lists as either blacklists OR whitelists
[21:38] <Dr_willis> no idea on any more really.
[21:38] <seronis> pgl only seems to use them as blacklists
[21:39] <seronis> i've been browsing the sourceforge link since yesterday
[21:39] <seronis> =-)
[21:39] <seronis> thank you all the same
[21:39] <rypervenche> seronis: Check your private message as well.
[21:39] <seronis> oh.. didnt notice it
[21:39] <Dr_willis> i imagine the idea is that everything is 'allowed' except whats blocked...
[21:40] <Dr_willis> otherwise you are filtering out to many good sites with the bad.
[21:41] <SrPx> Hey guys, a friend is installing windows + ubuntu on the same machine. He asked me the following: "should I install windows in a partition and leave 30gb free, then install ubuntu there... or install ubuntu in a 30gb partition, then install windows"? I remember installing ubuntu w/ no problems even if I had windows on 100%... so, well
[21:41] <SrPx> what do I say?
[21:41] <Dr_willis> SrPx,  install windows FIRST
[21:41] <SrPx> Dr_willis: leaving 30gb free ?
[21:41] <Dr_willis> however muich  space you want free... of course.
[21:41] <sethrobodeene> very new to linux/xubuntu, browsed all the linux.org beginner stuff, as well as the xubuntu.or beginner stuff.  any other beginner guides you would suggest?
[21:42] <SrPx> Dr_willis: I see, thanks!
[21:42] <Dr_willis> and you may want to try to restrict windows to just using 1 primary partion - if you can.
[21:42] <Dr_willis> !manual | sethrobodeene
[21:42] <The_Ghost> Ok I used clamscan to scan a windows partion but in the scan summery it said it  found 3 infected files I would like to know were they are now ?
[21:43] <TheLordOfTime> Dr_willis, windows needs min. 2 partitions for vista and later, one for its boot and recovery sector, the other for the OS.
[21:43] <Dr_willis> The_Ghost,  you mean it moved them?
[21:43] <TheLordOfTime> they can't restrict it to just 1
[21:43] <Dr_willis> TheLordOfTime,  actually  theres ways around that need for a boot partition from what i looked up ages ago.
[21:43] <Dr_willis> but the issue these days is many recovery-disk sets - make 4 PRIMARY partitions - which really screws things up for linux
[21:43] <TheLordOfTime> Dr_willis, lemme guess: highly techie fix?
[21:44] <SrPx> Dr_willis: hmm but.. should he leave the partition created when he install windows... or just leave as free space on hd?
[21:44] <Dr_willis> TheLordOfTime,  i dont recall it being to complex. had to do it for a friend about 3 yrs ago.
[21:44] <Dr_willis> SrPx,  leave it UNALLOCATED on the hard drive. not part of any partition.
[21:44] <redwan> hello all, I am new to this channel, I am about to wipe off ubuntu 12.10 and replace it with 13.4, do you think it's worth it?
[21:45] <Guest46675> hi
[21:45] <seronis> Dr_willis,  with peerblock all whitelists have higher priority than blacklists.    so if you are subscribed to a blacklist that is a little too paranoid you can allow the things you need specifically and that takes precedence
[21:45] <SrPx> Dr_willis: my friend thanked you ^^
[21:45] <sethrobodeene> thx dr_willis, looks like good info
[21:45] <Guest46675> I am using ubuntu 13.04 installed on a 8GB flash drive
[21:45] <seronis> need the whitelists mostly for gaming servers
[21:47] <Dr_willis> seronis,  on a linux box - this is getting into the 'tinfoil hat' paranoia range . just to let ya know.. ;)
[21:48] <seronis> honestly I only use the least paranoid level of the subscription lists.. but they still end up blocking a lot of Steam and educational IPs
[21:48] <seronis> which is why the whitelist is so important to me
[21:48] <moppers> Dr_willis, gamng server blocklists can be to stop griefers, not hackers
[21:48] <Dr_willis> biggest 'danger' i see to a typical ubuntu desktop machine these days.. is the user/admin doing things they shouldent be doing.  Not outside hackers ;P
[21:49] <moppers> Dr_willis, for example the guy who yells rude words all day at other players
[21:49] <seronis> and reddit articles are getting blocked (rarely)
[21:49] <Dr_willis> moppers,  you just described  what happens in this channel... a lot. ;P
[21:49] <seronis> cant have it blocking my reddit
[21:50] <The_Ghost> Is Avast any good for scanning a Linux partition ?
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> !av
[21:50] <moppers> and cross platform java exploits
[21:51] <Louis_1> anybody else having boot problems with 13.04?
[21:51] <moppers> i do need a good firewall though for *nix
[21:51] <moppers> i want a firewall that can block applications by name so i can do stuff like prevent things updating when i am on a mobiel connection and paying for bandwidth
[21:51] <seronis> ugh.. paying for bandwidth
[21:51] <Dr_willis> moppers,  linux has a  good firewall allready
[21:51] <moppers> sure i can block ports
[21:52] <moppers> but i can't block individual applications
[21:52] <Dr_willis> but it works diffently then how windows does its firewalling
[21:52] <Dr_willis> windows and linux take differnt approaches to firewalling
[21:52] <moppers> so how do i block an application by name?
[21:52] <Dr_willis> No idea. never needed to or wanted to on linux.
[21:52] <Dr_willis> i rarely need any firewall features on the linux boxs i run
[21:53] <moppers> so i take your comment abot 'good' firewall with some skepticism then since you can't know the answer
[21:53] <Dr_willis> askubuntu.com might have some info on the topic.
[21:53] <Dr_willis> linux firewalling is designed from the 'server' ussage approach. windows is from the 'dekstop user' type approach
[21:54] <rypervenche> moppers: iptables or a frontend for it is all you really need. You don't need application-level blocks. You block or limit things coming to specific ports, which is what I believe you are talking about.
[21:54] <Dr_willis> cant recall the guide i saw once that mentioned all that.. was a few years back
[21:54] <moppers> but everything uses port 80
[21:54] <moppers> i'd have to block by individual ip address
[21:55] <rypervenche> moppers: What are you trying to block exactly?
[21:55] <moppers> or it uses bittorrent to update and i want some bit torrents and not others
[21:55] <moppers> rypervenche, let's say i am on a mobile connection and i want to stop an app updating over bittorrent, but i dont want ot stop my other bittorrent download...
[21:55] <moppers> how do i do that with iptables?
[21:56] <JoshDreamland> Could anyone tell me why Thunderbird can't open links in firefox?
[21:56] <Dr_willis> I wonder if theres an #iptables channel.
[21:57] <bazhang> #netfilter
[21:57] <rypervenche> moppers: I would block the IP. You want it to be automated?
[21:57] <rypervenche> moppers: I'm sure the torrent program has a way to block by IP or other criteria as well.
[21:58] <moppers> which IP would you block? it's bit torrent....
[21:58] <moppers> it' a peer to peer system
[21:58] <moppers> and the app would be using its own torrent program
[21:58] <The_Ghost> any way to bypass a proxy to let me use Bittorent ?
[21:58] <moppers> game patchers for example use their own p2p code
[21:58] <moppers> (well some of them)
[21:59] <rypervenche> moppers: Then you need to get with the apps developers perhaps. You can block the IP of the person downloading the files from your computer.
[21:59] <moppers> yea pretty much ... that's why i want a firewall that can block apps by name
[21:59] <rypervenche> lol
[22:00] <moppers> basiclaly iptables can't do it
[22:00] <Dr_willis> ask in #netfilter perhaps
[22:00] <redwan> what do you mean by app that block app by name
[22:00] <redwan> there isnt such a thing
[22:01] <Dr_willis> redwan,  the way wiindows does it with a dialog asking 'are you sure you want to let this random game you have been running for the last 30 min  access the internet?'   perhaps?
[22:01] <Dr_willis> at least thats when i see the dialog.. after i exit the game and it has allready been on the internet. ;)
[22:01] <seronis> redwan,  thats how windows firewall works
[22:01] <redwan> check the port it uses and block it
[22:01] <seronis> you choose programs you want blocked.. not just ports
[22:02] <seronis> redwan,  he also said its one of the games that uses bittorrent for its updating.  no single port
[22:02] <seronis> i've played several korean rpgs that did that
[22:02] <moppers>  cant block by port if it's phoning home on port 80 like most things do
[22:02] <moppers> can block by IP address but not if it's using its own torrent client
[22:03] <moppers> easier to just block /usr/local/crapgame from accessing network
[22:03] <Dr_willis> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12499/iptables-pf-rule-to-only-allow-xy-application-user   but its a little old.
[22:03] <redwan> if you have torrent installed and opened in your machine than there is nothing to stop it from communicating out..
[22:03] <seronis> gufw's website screen shots doesnt show anything mentioning program name or path in the settings
[22:03] <redwan> because you basically opened everything and anything
[22:03] <seronis> so doesnt look like it can do it
[22:04] <moppers> an application level firewall would do it
[22:04] <Salmy> pra que serve isso
[22:04] <redwan> SElinux
[22:04] <redwan> is your friend
[22:04] <justinholm3s> not needed if your sys admins are good
[22:04] <Dr_willis> redwan,  yea.. ive seen people go berzerk with selinux ;0 and lock theirselfs out
[22:05] <Dr_willis> you just dont hear much about selinux these days
[22:05] <moppers> does it work on ubuntu?
[22:05] <redwan> Ive seen tons of people locking them selves out with a simple firewall
[22:05] <Dr_willis> !selinux
[22:06] <moppers> maybe apparmor?
[22:06] <Dr_willis> I was into this hard core security stuff about 5 yrs back.. ;) but honestly havent even worried about it on my ubuntu boxs in years
[22:06] <redwan> give yourself time, and learn it, then apply it to your enviroment, it's the way forward
[22:07] <justinholm3s> again not needed if you only expose port 80/443
[22:07] <moppers> are you sure selinux can do it?
[22:07] <eskisehirleee> turkey
[22:07] <Dr_willis> i would suggest looking into apparmour first. Not diving right into selinux..
[22:08] <redwan> if it's good enough for cia. fbi and top dogs then is good enough for you
[22:08] <seronis> "#apparmor on irc.oftc.net"
[22:08] <moppers> redwan no becuas they limit what their users can install
[22:09] <moppers> i am looking now at fedora's docs for selinux and i dont see how to block a specific binary from accessing the network
[22:09] <eskisehirleee> türk lazým
[22:10] <redwan> sorry guys got to go now
[22:10] <DoYouKnow> ubuntu 13.04 froze at the end of install in a VMware VM
[22:10] <DoYouKnow> running post-installation trigger
[22:11] <justinholm3s> Vcd or workstation?
[22:11] <DoYouKnow> player
[22:12] <justinholm3s> Im guessing vmware tools has not been updated
[22:12] <DoYouKnow> I usually install the tools after install
[22:13] <justinholm3s> ok I do it during
[22:13] <justinholm3s> 2 secs let me fire up my vmware cluster
[22:14] <moppers> hrm ok selinux might be able to do it after all  but i;d need to script it to change permissions - checking apparmor docs now
[22:15] <davico_> Hi!
[22:15] <davico_> sdl???
[22:15] <moppers> ah yea, appamor/selinux can do it with custom scripts
[22:15] <DoYouKnow> justinholm3s: screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/2JjWoMF.png
[22:16] <davico_> hi
[22:16] <moppers> DoYouKnow, is that win8?
[22:16] <DoYouKnow> yeah, moppers
[22:16] <DoYouKnow> I run 12.04 LTS fine in it, but not 13.04
[22:17] <DoYouKnow> having an issue with testing out 13.04
[22:17] <DoYouKnow> I'll reboot and try again
[22:17] <redtape-renegade> i dont kow what partitions relate to which flavour of ubuntu on my HDD .. QUESTION : How do i ascertain that info. ??
[22:17] <moppers> i odnt know vmware but vxbox does this each new ubuntu: kernel version vs vbox kernel drivers mismatch
[22:18] <zykotick9> anyone know the link to see when Lucid support ends?  I believe it's May 9th, but want to see "officially".
[22:18] <Dr_willis> redtape-renegade,  mount them and look at the files perhaps?
[22:18] <justinholm3s> @DoYouKnow have you tried server?
[22:18] <Dr_willis> redtape-renegade,  or boot to each one. and  change the label of the filesystem to differante them
[22:18] <samthewildone> hello fellas
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> justinholm3s, You can tab complete nicks @ does not inform them.
[22:19] <redtape-renegade> ok
[22:19] <moppers> zykotick9, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[22:19] <zykotick9> moppers: thanks
[22:19] <justinholm3s> wilee-nilee I know i just like @
[22:20] <davico_> somebody with experience in SDL?
[22:20] <justinholm3s> define sdl? context?
[22:20] <dRagonsRage> hi, n00bie here
[22:20] <dRagonsRage> :)
[22:20] <seronis> graphics library
[22:20] <seronis> (assumpmtion)
[22:20] <justinholm3s> who knows
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> justinholm3s, Cool, however if you want people officially informed that you are talking to them it does not work.
[22:20] <DoYouKnow> justinholm3s: no, not yet. I'd rather have the desktop, in case something breaks
[22:21] <DoYouKnow> justinholm3s: for example, also when deleting lots of specific files, etc. I'd rather have a desktop
[22:22] <justinholm3s> DoYouKnow its virtualised though?
[22:22] <DoYouKnow> justinholm3s: yeah
[22:23] <seronis> davico_, context ?
[22:23] <davico_> hi
[22:23] <davico_> excuse me
[22:23] <DoYouKnow> justinholm3s: lately I've been running weather simulation software on it... GrAds+ARPS+GEMPAK
[22:23] <DoYouKnow> with 12.04
[22:23] <davico_> first excuse me for my english
[22:23] <davico_> :D
[22:24] <davico_> i want use sdl only for key events
[22:25] <phenom> Have any of you connected to a VPN on ubuntu?
[22:25] <davico_> if  a key is pressed
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> !anyone > phenom
[22:25] <davico_> return ie false
[22:25] <phenom> wilee-nilee: I'd appreciate if you would RTFM
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> lol you will really get help now.
[22:26] <azi`> what is the easiest way to switch to the old gnome desktop style?
[22:26] <azi`> i don't like unity
[22:26] <bazhang> phenom, thats never welcome here
[22:26] <bazhang> !guidelines > phenom
[22:27] <phenom> wilee-nilee: I don't need help. I need to know if anyone has successfully connected to a PPTN VPN on ubuntu.
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> azi`, You can install the gnome-shell and use the fallback
[22:27] <justinholm3s> phenom yes
[22:27] <phenom> justinholm3s: Without disabling Firestarter?
[22:28] <maxb> azi`: I've had success with installing the gnome-session-fallback package and then selecting the appropriate option in lightdm before logging in
[22:28] <justinholm3s> phenom  I used the terminal like everyone should lol
[22:28] <phenom> I can't find a way to connect to a PPTN VPN successfully with Firestarted enabled, regardless of iptables rules or user-pre config I setup.
[22:28] <azi`> wilee-nilee: maxb thanks!
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> np
[22:30] <phenom> justinholm3s: appears firestarter doesn't support PPTN
[22:30] <justinholm3s> phenom I never used firestarter
[22:30] <phenom> sorry
[22:30] <phenom> pptp
[22:35] <phenom> So,, how can we get Firestarter, a program packaged in ubuntu to connect to a PPTP VPN?
[22:35] <clinton> I have a updated 12.10 and I want to upgrade to 13.04.  I get a "Can not upgrade" Your python install is corrupted. Please fix the /usr/bin/python symlink.  The link is to python2.7.  I work in python all the time.  Thought it might require python3 so I changed the link and got the same error so I set it back to 2.7.  Googling hasn't helped.  Can someone point the way?
[22:35] <th0r> phenom: firestarter is a firewall, it doesn't connect to a vpn
[22:36] <phenom> sigh
[22:36] <phenom> So,, how can we get Firestarter, a program packaged in ubuntu to allow a connection to a PPTP VPN?
[22:36] <th0r> phenom: you open the ports that the vpn requires
[22:36] <phenom> th0r: Not that simple unfortunately.
[22:37] <phenom> It doesn't appear to support it.
[22:37] <lostinconsole> What is the package name of the free AMD/ATI graphics driver in 13.04?
[22:37] <[JethroDawnfine]> clinton: maybe you added foreign PPAs and now you might disable them and downgrade stuff before upgrading
[22:38] <phenom> I've scoured the web for a fix and the only way to enable it in firestarter is to disable it completely.
[22:38] <clinton> That sounds likely.  However to too sure about how to go about doing it.
[22:39] <phenom> I feel "we" need to kick up dust on this. I remember this issue years ago.
[22:39] <phenom> Not many users appear to use VPN's however.
[22:41] <clinton> Google search is helping with the PPAs.  I'll remove all of them and see what happends.
[22:41] <lostinconsole> I just installed Xubuntu 13.04, and after some very brief purple flickering I am dumped into the console. I have an ATI Radeon HD4050 (something like that anyway) and I have the free driver installed. Graphics worked fine on the live USB, but not in the real installation.
[22:42] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset
[22:42] <lostinconsole> Dr_willis: Always helpful :)
[22:42] <Dr_willis> try the nomodeset option, then install the ati fglrx drivers
[22:42] <graingert> anyway to see what process is doing lots of HDD io
[22:43] <graingert> ah found it
[22:43] <graingert> it was bitcoin
[22:43] <seronis> ok.. getting  mailto:  to open a new gmail window was easier than expected too
[22:43] <graingert> sigh
[22:46] <davico_> SOMEBODY WITH EXPERIENCE IN SDL????????????????
[22:47] <Dr_willis> davico_,   You mean the SDL  libraries?
[22:48] <seronis> davico_,  caps loc is not your friend.  and it will make other people NOT your friend too
[22:48] <Dr_willis> http://www.libsdl.org/   Simple DirectMedia Layer is a cross-platform multimedia library
[22:48] <davico_> but
[22:48] <davico_> the information in this web site is
[22:48] <davico_> NULL
[22:48] <seronis> does the NeHe tutorials still cover SDL ?
[22:49] <seronis> thats the only time i used it (long time ago)
[22:49] <davico_> but
[22:49] <davico_> i only need the events
[22:49] <davico_> no graphics
[22:49] <davico_> no audio
[22:49] <bazhang> !enter | davico_
[22:49] <seronis> ok.. and read the tutorials till they cover events.. and use what they show
[22:49] <Dr_willis> http://wiki.libsdl.org/moin.fcg/APIByCategory#Input_Events
[22:50] <yeats> davico_: the SDL website has links to mailing lists and a support forum, FYI - it's probably beyond the scope of the #ubuntu channel
[22:50] <Dr_willis> http://wiki.libsdl.org/moin.fcg/CategoryEvents
[22:51] <Dr_willis> looks like lots-o-docs to me.. ;) but i dont code.
[22:52] <davico_> yes yes! excuse me
[22:52] <davico_> an thanks
[22:53] <deadweasel> Unity3d is no longer a login option...  I've verified the plugin is selected in ccsm..  also, I have to login twice to get to the desktop for unity, gnome, any other face I put on it...
[22:54] <deadweasel> in 2d the response of the launcher/dash is 5 seconds exactly.
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> deadweasel, The history leading to this and details of what you have tried will help, if you want assistance. ;)
[22:59] <deadweasel> i have been reloding gfx drivers recently, it was borked after many xorg reinstalls..  also, I just deleted .compiz-1 as a try for a fix mentioned in the forums.
[23:00] <mizifih> is /etc/rc.local a good place to mount my disks when Ubuntu 13.04 starts?
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> deadweasel, Be careful with compiz fixes, it has changed over releases, somake sure they are in your release.
[23:00] <betrayd> mizifih: you might miss one that's needed before
[23:01] <mizifih> betrayd: meaning?
[23:01] <betrayd> mizifih: as in, might be too late for the other rc's to succeed
[23:01] <deadweasel> thanks wilee-nilee, i will be more careful in the future.
[23:01] <mizifih> betrayd: I'm a newbie ;(
[23:01] <betrayd> mizifih: maybe we're missing the root of the problem
[23:02] <mizifih> betrayd: hum...
[23:02] <deadweasel> wilee-nilee: shoudl I reinstall compiz?
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> mizifih, How are you mounting? Is this partitions or other HD's?
[23:02] <mizifih> betrayd: what's the best way to mount my disks at system startup?
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> deadweasel, Not sure, more explanation to the channel might help, I don't use unity.
[23:03] <mizifih> wilee-nilee betrayd I just need to make this disks/partitions available so sabnzbd/sickbeard/xbmc can access it
[23:03] <mizifih> *these
[23:03] <lostinconsole> Dr_willis: I tried nomodeset, but now graphics is just fucked up. There's some flickering and the resolution is very low. The proprietary AMD driver does not support my graphics card.
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> !fstab | mizifih
[23:03] <lostinconsole> :(
[23:03] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  make a fstab entry would be the normal way
[23:03] <deadweasel> wilee-nilee, a good alternative?  :)
[23:04] <IdleOne> !language | lostinconsole
[23:04] <mizifih> Dr_willis: I'll give it some reading
[23:04] <mizifih> thnks
[23:04] <mizifih> thanks*
[23:04] <lostinconsole> IdleOne: sorry
[23:04] <Dr_willis> lostinconsole,  i have exactly 1 ati video card/system.  so no idea on troubleshooting ati.
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> deadweasel, I use the gnome shell, there are a number of desktops.
[23:04] <lostinconsole> I suppose I'll have to reinstall 12.04.
[23:05] <jimi_> How can I add a program to the Applications -> Programming menu?
[23:05] <Dr_willis> jimi_, make a proper .desktop launcher file for it and put it in the right location
[23:06] <Dr_willis> use gedit.desktop as an example
[23:06] <deadweasel> wilee-nilee: I'm happy with 2d unity, but I just need this 5 second dash delay to reduce to 0.
[23:06] <jimi_> Dr_willis, thanks for the point in the right direction. I think I can get it from there! thanks!
[23:06] <deadweasel> it was fine before all my fiddlin' with gfx drivers
[23:06] <Dr_willis> jimi_,  askubuntu.com has guides on making launchers
[23:06] <jimi_> Dr_willis, nice, ill go check that out right now. you the man!
[23:07] <jimi_> Dr_willis, im laying on the praise thick today, because i sometimes see how many people come in here, get spoon fed and then /part without saying anything, or acting like you get paid to be here :P
[23:07] <seronis> he is paid in our gratitude darn it
[23:07] <seronis> dont make him expect a raise
[23:07] <LarsN> Has anyone here successfully convinced a displaylink USB monitor to work on 13.04?  If so do you have a link to where you documented the process?
[23:07] <jimi_> :P
[23:07] <seronis> *hides*
[23:08]  * jimi_ finds seronis and staples him/her to the wall so that Dr_willis can worm em over
[23:08] <jimi_> lol
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> deadweasel, I think the unity-tweak tool has that option to change.
[23:08] <deadweasel> worm?!
[23:08] <jimi_> lol
[23:08] <jimi_> work
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> lol ignored
[23:10] <Dr_willis> half the time im at work.. getting paid.. ;) and im here..   ;P
[23:10] <Dr_willis> gotta love a job where you get to wait around  half the day
[23:11] <seronis> Dr_willis,  same but im only getting paid min wage to be here
[23:11] <jimi_> Dr_willis, haha, i hang out in other channels duing the day helping out, like php , javascript, salesforce, etc... lol
[23:11] <pillar> is this a help channel?
[23:11] <jimi_> seronis, better than nothing though :)
[23:11] <jimi_> pillar, yes, what's up?
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> pillar, ubuntu support
[23:12] <BHXSpecter> wow this error has really had me baffled.....googled every error I had, found fixes, just to be lead to new errors or previous errors. I seem to keep getting errors about multiarch-support, libgcc1, and such ....actively googling each error though
[23:13] <pillar> I have a pcie hdmi capture card HD100C and the manufacturer wrote a driver for my Ubuntu 12.10 and it is a tar.gz and Ihave no idea how to install it
[23:13] <pillar> they emailed to me
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> pillar, Generally a read me in the tar
[23:14] <mizifih> Dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5633827/
[23:14] <mizifih> sounds about right?
[23:14] <pillar> could I email it to someone here to see if something is missing no install or readme I can find
[23:15] <storminator161> does it contain .c or .cpp files?
[23:15] <pillar> who me?
[23:15] <storminator161> yes, pillar
[23:16] <pillar> I'll go look, I unzipped it and a folder was created
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> pillar, Tar istalls a pretty straight forward most of the time, just be sure that the tar is the answer. http://askubuntu.com/questions/25961/how-to-install-a-tar-gz-or-tar-bz2-file
[23:17] <pillar> I have been at this all day
[23:17] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  dont use spaces in filesystem label names.. and i strongly suggest NOT using them in mountpoint names either.
[23:17] <storminator161> perfect, wilee-nilee
[23:17] <mizifih> Dr_willis: yeah, I was wondering that... but other then that, is that right?
[23:17] <cerv0> hi every body i'm having a problem since this morning and i couldn't find any help
[23:18] <wushu> does anyone know what --sport in an iptables rule does?
[23:18] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  try mounting it and see if it works..    sudo mount -a.  Your use of \ to escape spaces in fstab is incorredt. it does NOT escape spaces that way in that file
[23:18] <BHXSpecter> hmm...says apt-extracttemplates doesn't exist, but I see it in /usr/bin :/
[23:19] <cerv0> i have an exectube create by the main user and i have changed the owner of the executable but the new owner cannot execute it
[23:19] <mizifih> Dr_willis: I'll actually remove those spaces, it was just me being lazy, I get your point.
[23:19] <cerv0> i don't undestand
[23:19] <Dr_willis> mizifih,   spaces in directory/file names can be very annoying. Best to use _ if you want
[23:19] <pillar> In the main folder "xI100E are three folders  Bin, Include, Source
[23:19] <LarsN> well I'm getting closer
[23:19] <mizifih> Dr_willis: yeah, I'll just do that
[23:19] <cerv0> i wanted to say an executable
[23:19] <mizifih> Dr_willis: btw, is it possible to mount more then one disk in one "folder"?
[23:19] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  the ntfs-config tool can auto-generate fstab lines. and the ntfs-3g page has examples
[23:19] <LarsN> when I connect my displaylink monitor I see the UDLFB driver load, and it proper detects the resolution of the monitor.
[23:19] <mizifih> like same path
[23:20] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  not really that i know of.. may be some wayt to do it. but ive never seen the need.
[23:20] <LarsN> is the gnome display properites utility in unity using xrandr, or another utility?
[23:20] <Dr_willis>   you can mount   disk2  to be /media/disk1/disk2 and have it appear under disk1..
[23:20] <pillar> found alsa.c audio.c Makefile misc.c v4l2.c video.c in the Common folder
[23:20] <mizifih> Dr_willis: like a folder inside the first mount?
[23:21] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  all a mountpoint is... is a folder that shows the fs's contents after the mount
[23:21] <Dr_willis> mizifih,   the system is allready doing it if you think about it...
[23:21] <Dr_willis>   /media/disk/whatever           is under the / mount ;)
[23:22] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[23:22] <Dr_willis> You want to be using ntfs-3g instead of ntfs - if you want write support i belive.
[23:23] <storminator161> test
[23:23] <Dr_willis> !test
[23:23] <storminator161> !test
[23:23] <storminator161> ?
[23:23] <pillar> ./configure and make do not work
[23:23] <Dr_willis> no one ever reads what the bot says. ;)
[23:24] <mizifih> Dr. Willis looks like it worked, mount -a didn't bitch
[23:24] <storminator161> first day on IRC in like 10 years, I was trying something out...
[23:24] <donvito|2> is there a way to put ubuntu 12.04 on stand by just like i put windows ?
[23:24] <mizifih> Dr_willis: it did the first time, but said the directory wasn't there, I just created it and looks like it mounted
[23:24] <cerv0> someone could help me ??
[23:24] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  mount point diretorys MUST exist befor you mount to them
[23:25] <mizifih> Dr_willis: yeah, just learned that ;)
[23:25] <mizifih> But it's working ;)
[23:25] <storminator161> cerv0, did you ever state your problem?
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> donvito|2, stand by/
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> stand by?*
[23:25] <mizifih> Dr_willis: now I need to check access permission, see if system can use that
[23:25] <donvito|2> yes
[23:26] <cerv0> storminator161 yes since this morning
[23:26] <donvito|2> i put the pc to sleep, but the processes remain
[23:26] <cerv0> but let me resume
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> donvito|2, hibernate or suspend
[23:26] <donvito|2> suspend doesnt work.
[23:26] <pillar> if ./configure is not working what other options do I have
[23:27] <redtape-renegade> i downloaded UneNetbootin but haven't found where my downloads folder is , downloading from firefox ...
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> donvito|2, Fr help you need to give details.
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> For*
[23:28] <donvito|2> well i just tryed suspend for 5 minutes, the computer didnt suspended
[23:28] <mizifih> Dr_willis: and what startup system file should I put sickbeard and sabnzbd in?
[23:28] <lolbat> What is the best backupservice?
[23:28] <redtape-renegade>  i downloaded UneNetbootin but haven't found where my downloads folder is to install the image , downloading from firefox ...
[23:28] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  i dont een know what those do.
[23:29] <bwat47> redtape-renegade, firefox's download manager has a button to open the containing folder... in any case by default it should be /home/downloads. unetbootin is in the ubuntu repos anyway so I'd just recommend installing it from the software center..
[23:29] <mizifih> Dr_willis: well, it's just a software that I need to run at system startup
[23:29] <Dr_willis> redtape-renegade,  /home/username/Downloads
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> donvito|2, What release, any modifications that might affect this...etc
[23:29] <donvito|2> 12.04
[23:29] <donvito|2> skype is runing
[23:29] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  it depends on what they do and what user they need to run as.
[23:30] <cerv0> storminator161 i'm having an executable but the owner can not execute the programme but when i change the owner into the main owner i mean the one who have been created at the installation evrything it's ok
[23:30] <bwat47> redtape-renegade, oh, or are you already in unetbootin and just trying to browse for the image? go to home > username > Downloads
[23:30] <s3b`> guys i'm about to go nuts. mwhy does my ubuntu keep losing my internet connection
 i don't undestand why the new owner is not able to execute the file ?
[23:30] <s3b`> i always thought my other laptop's hardware was going bad, but i just put buntu on another  laptop that was working fine and now i'm losing it again
[23:31] <s3b`> my wifi signal stays there but I just can't connect to anything every 5-10 minutes
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> s3b`, weak signal, ubuntu is not the best at picking up signals.
[23:32] <s3b`> wilee-nilee: Any fixes?
[23:32] <mizifih> Dr_willis: hum... python for sure
[23:32] <bwat47> if its an intel wireless card it might be that wireless n driver bug that seems to affect some people but not others, the workaround is to disable wireless N mode in the driver
[23:32] <mizifih> Dr_willis: they can be the last stuff system will start
[23:33] <s3b`> also my signal should be pretty strong, i'm 10 feet from the router and it reaches all the way to the sidewalk
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> s3b`, Not really if the signal is dropping from ubuntu due to it being weak, can you turn up the signal in the router?
[23:33] <mizifih> Dr_willis: what's confusing, and interesting and useful, is that ubuntu/linux have lots of "autoexec.bat"-like files
[23:33] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  it all depends on whats running and supposed to be doing.
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> 10 feet should be fine starnge.
[23:33] <bwat47> s3b`, what wireless card is it?
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> strange*
[23:34] <s3b`> O
[23:34] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  starting on user LOGIN - theres an autostart directyory in your users .config dir.
[23:34] <s3b`> bwat47: How can I look it up? I'm on a macbook pro retina
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> s3b`, lspci in terminal and look for it.
[23:34] <bwat47> s3b`, lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
[23:34] <Dr_willis> mizifih,  starting at system boot BEFOR the user logs in. make a service. or add to /etc/rc.local
[23:35] <mizifih> Dr_willis: well, it would be nice if they both start before user login, I'll see rc.local
[23:35] <s3b`> Broadcom Corporation BCM4331 ? using wl driver
[23:36] <mizifih> Dr_willis: services also start automatically on linux?
[23:36] <Dr_willis> !broadcom
[23:36] <mizifih> make sense, LOL
[23:36] <s3b`> weird my browsers won't connect to google but I'm getting messages here easily
[23:37] <s3b`> facebook works, xchat works, nothing else does
[23:38] <bwat47> pretty strange
[23:38] <s3b`> yeah it's weird, I've never had problems when i was using 12.04. I updated to 12.10 and they started, went back to 12.04 and the problems stayed. put 13.04 on my work laptop and same issue
[23:38] <mizifih> DNS!?
[23:39] <s3b`> maybe, how do I debug DNS on ubuntu?
[23:39] <s3b`> i'd love to google it, but uhh lol
[23:40] <bwat47> does it let you ping google in terminal? ping -c 4 www.google.com
[23:40] <s3b`> No I just tried that
[23:40] <redtape> Just on the other computer now ... I am having problems with this bit of UNetbootin .. Where is my ISO. etc ? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/UNetbootin%20image%20uploading.png
[23:40] <bwat47> s3b`, can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>? (google's public dns address)
[23:41] <s3b`> Yes!
[23:41] <th0r> s3b`: try 'sudo iptables -L' and see if the firewall is on
[23:41] <bwat47> s3b`, yeah definitely sounds like something dns related is acting up
[23:41] <s3b`> this is the weirdest it's gotten before
[23:41] <s3b`> Chain INPUT, FORWARD and OUTPUT all say policy ACCEPT
[23:42] <s3b`> do you think setting my DNS to google's would work/
[23:43] <bwat47> s3b`, couldn't hurt to try
[23:43] <s3b`> How do I go about doing that?
[23:43] <bwat47> s3b`, you could also try this, probably a total long shot, but you could try disabling ipv6 in networkmanager (go to edit connections > your wireless connection > edit > ipv6 > set it to ignore). I've seen that fix weird issues before
[23:43] <redtape> Did anyone get that ?
[23:44] <bwat47> s3b`, https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using, there's a section there on changing ubuntu's dns server to google's
[23:44] <Dr_willis> redtape,   did you look in your Downloads directory?
[23:44] <s3b`> bwat47: Can't open it :)
[23:44] <redtape> I dont know hopw to locate my downloads directory !
[23:44] <michealpw> LOL
[23:44] <michealpw> redtape: /home/username/Downloads
[23:44] <Dr_willis> redtape,  its right ther ein your  HOME.. called 'Downloads'  fire up the file manager and look
[23:44] <wushu> anyone up for helping me with some iptable rules?
[23:45] <michealpw> redtape: where /username/ is of course, your user name ;)
[23:45] <s3b`> Ah finally got some connection back
[23:45] <s3b`> http://i.imgur.com/ck6yk3X.png this is what i'm staring at
[23:45] <redtape> there is no folder there.. if you look at the uimage i gave you all i have is root and the filesystem.
[23:45] <bwat47> s3b`, go to networkmanager > edit > edit your wireless connection > ipv4 tab > change it from automatic to Automatic (DHCP) addresses only, and then in the dns servers fields use <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:45] <Dr_willis> redtape,   open a terminal and do a  cd /home/YOURUSERNAME/Downloads
[23:46] <Dr_willis> redtape,  and use ls to LOOK at the files
[23:46] <mizifih> later folx
[23:46] <s3b`> bwat47: Comma inbetween, right?
[23:46] <mizifih> Dr_willis: thanks for everything. I'm rebooting this thing to see if everything is working like it should
[23:47] <s3b`> DR_willis: it says "YOURUSERNAME not found" ??
[23:47]  * s3b` jokes
[23:47] <Dr_willis> redtape,  your screenshot is loking in /usr/ that is NOT /home/
[23:47] <redtape> you dont understand, i have use the 'open disk image file' dialogue screen, in the png i gave yiou to locate the downloads folder .. i can only use that !!
[23:47] <bwat47> s3b`, lol, was gonna be like READ THE TOOLTIP SON
[23:47] <redtape> where is the homer ?
[23:47] <Dr_willis> redtape,  notice at the top it says 'usr' that is  /usr/ you want /home/
[23:48] <s3b`> why don't you guys just tell him to use ~
[23:48] <Dr_willis> redtape,  so go up a directory or 2 untill you find /home
[23:48] <redtape> ok where is /home / ??
[23:48] <s3b`> oh is he browsing manually
[23:48] <Dr_willis>   /home/ is on the root of the drive... go UP one directory and you will see it
[23:48] <michealpw> redtape: / denotes the very top of the disk. So /home is a top-level directory..
[23:48] <Dr_willis> that little pencil icon shows you the PATH
[23:48] <michealpw> It's like saying C:\home
[23:49] <bwat47> s3b`, yeah unetbootin runs as root so when it opens the browse window it starts you in the root folder
[23:49] <s3b`> ah gotcha, only caught the last half of it and i couldn't open his screenshot
[23:50] <s3b`> just restarted my connection with google's DNS and still ain't getting anything
[23:50] <s3b`> so strange
[23:51] <netlar> How easy does Ubuntu make upgrading to a new version now?
[23:51] <essentialz> having some issues getting bluetooth enabled. i have a lenovo p580 laptop with onboard bluetooth. For some reason ubuntu is not recognizing it as an adapter? it shows bluetooth service running, but when i click in the bluetooth setting everything is greyed out with no adapters show. anyone can point me in the right direction?
[23:51] <s3b`> isn't it just one commnand
[23:51] <Dr_willis> !upgrade
[23:51] <redtape> Dr_willis: & michealpw .. yur right .. im installing the iso on the pen drive using UNetbootin now. thank-you.
[23:51] <s3b`> 13.04 is awesome but i fell in love with xmonad and had to say bye
[23:51] <bwat47> s3b`, did you try disabling ipv6? I've seen that solve weird issues people have sometimes lol
[23:51] <s3b`> bwat47: Yeah I did both
[23:52] <s3b`> browser's loading right now, lets see how long it lasts
[23:52] <matriks404> hi i has today kernel panic (first in my life, over 2 years of using Ubuntu) and is there a file where it is written crash log or something?
[23:52] <azi`> i am not able to install almost anything.. ubuntu is saying archive.ubuntu.com network is unreachable..
[23:53] <azi`> is there a heavy traffic going on or something?
[23:53] <storminator16> azi, on the same machine you are chatting from?
[23:53] <redtape> boot failed .. oh poo.
[23:53] <azi`> storminator16: correct
[23:53] <azi`> err storminator16 no
[23:54] <storminator16> wait....."yes" or "no" lol
[23:54] <azi`> storminator16: i am chatting thrugh a screen sesh on another server
[23:54] <storminator16> ah
[23:54] <matriks404> can i see in any file what was cause of kernel panic?
[23:54] <Dr_willis>   /var/log/kernel*  perhaps matriks404
[23:55] <storminator16> can you ping the outside world from the problem machine?
[23:55] <nubby> hey guys im having a little problem i got a ssoftware update yesterday and after a restart my bootsplash is the lower quality and when im booted i seem to be stuck in 4:3 aspect ratio max res 1024x768 i assume its becuase of a kernel headers getttign update i tried re isntallign bumblebee and bumblebee-nvidia but still get the issue
[23:55] <Jordan_U> matriks404: /var/log/dmesg if you're lucky (but you're only going to get kernel messages from before the actual panic as afterward the kernel can't write to the hard drive). Is this a UEFI machine or a BIOS based one?
[23:55] <nubby> i have this apearign in my dmesg
[23:56] <essentialz> having some issues getting bluetooth enabled. i have a lenovo p580 laptop with onboard bluetooth. For some reason ubuntu is not recognizing it as an adapter? it shows bluetooth service running, but when i click in the bluetooth setting everything is greyed out with no adapters show. anyone can point me in the right direction?
[23:56] <matriks404> Jordan_U BIOS Netbook, i was playing Minecraft and i was chatting on TeamSpeak3, and kernel panic showed up
[23:56] <nubby> [  147.174456] intel ips 0000:00:1f.6: failed to disable graphis turbo
[23:56] <nubby>  it spearign 7 time in the b ottom of dmesg after boot
[23:56] <netlar> is it uncommon for a new version of Ubuntu to break previous installed components?
[23:56] <s3b`> annnnnnnd it's gone
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> netlar, Not answerable as you ask, specific apps and specific installs are needed here.
[23:57] <Jordan_U> matriks404: When booted via UEFI the kernel can save panic crash dumps to UEFI variables, but without that (or a pre setup net console) you can't really log a kernel panic.
[23:57] <s3b`> wow that's weird I can't even ping the router i'm connected to
[23:58] <s3b`> LOL
[23:58] <matriks404> Jordan_U: OK, thanks
[23:58] <Jordan_U> s3b`: And yet you're still talking to us through said router? And you're pinging by ip?
[23:58] <Jordan_U> matriks404: You're welcome.
[23:58] <s3b`> Yes and yes
[23:58] <s3b`> unless my router has changed IP's
[23:59] <s3b`> --- <IP_ADDRESS> ping statistics ---
[23:59] <s3b`> 30 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 28999ms
[23:59] <donvito|2> is it possible to run web portal on ubuntu 12.04?
[23:59] <dibs> If I nmap another ubuntu box on my local netwrok should I see it's ports open if thesame box nmapping its self has them open?
[23:59] <Jordan_U> s3b`: Sounds like something is wrong with your network, not with linux.
[23:59] <Jordan_U> s3b`: Are you using a static ip address or DHCP?
[23:59] <s3b`> DHCP


[01:39] <Newbuntu81-2> Anyone have luck getting the HVR 2250 to work in analog NTSC mode with mythtv?
[01:46] <mycosys> Beirdo on #mythtv-users is using one
[01:49] <mycosys> appears to be around atm
[01:49] <mycosys> Newbuntu81-2
[03:04] <Newbuntu81> hey darnell. any luck?
[03:18] <adub> any reason hdmi audio will just quit working all together in myth frontend
[03:20] <patdk-lap> sure
[03:20] <patdk-lap> one would be, pulling the power cable out
[05:37]  * Newbuntu81 is away: Busy. Friend me if you're using the Hauppauge HVR 2250.
[05:43]  * Newbuntu81 is away: is away.  Leave me a msg me if you're using the Hauppauge HVR 2250. Can use all the help I can get.
[05:45]  * Newbuntu81 is back (gone 00:02:12)
[05:45]  * Newbuntu81 is away: Leave me a msg me if you're using the Hauppauge HVR 2250. Can use all the help I can get.
[05:46] <rhpot1991> Newbuntu81: stop that
[05:46] <rhpot1991> !forums | Newbuntu81
[05:46] <Zinn> Newbuntu81: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.
[05:46] <rhpot1991> !mailing% | Newbuntu81
[05:46] <Zinn> Newbuntu81: The MythTV Users mailing list is located at: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/
[07:45] <qwebirc11239> hi
[08:03] <qwebirc11239> I have a problem, I clicked 'partial update' which deleted some packages, mainly gdm, and some other ones that were some kind of default ubuntu theme, I forget the name. I reinstalled most of them, now lvm-common won't install, but worse, the window manager won't start, at gdm, the screen just blanks and it starts again, I wonder if I could save some time if somebody knows where to start on this, thanks
[09:10] <qwebirc11239> I found the name of the other packages, @Plymouth@ should I reinstall all of them?
[11:25] <qwebirc11239> I have a problem, I clicked 'partial update' which deleted some packages, mainly gdm, and some other ones that were some kind of default ubuntu theme, I forget the name. I reinstalled most of them, now lvm-common won't install, but worse, the window manager won't start, at gdm, the screen just blanks and it starts again, I wonder if I could save some time if somebody knows where to start on this, thanks
[11:26] <qwebirc11239> I found the name of the other packages, @Plymouth@ should I reinstall all of them?
[18:57] <toby_> hi guys, I'm trying to upgrade my frontend client to v0.24 but cant get the package manager to see that there is a new version available...
[18:58] <toby_> i'm using linux mint and front end currently at v0.23
[18:58] <toby_> i've tried adding the MythTV-Updates and Mythbuntu-Updates repositories but it still doesnt like it
[18:58] <toby_> any ideas ?
[19:12] <mrand> I had some ideas....  check your repo name.   But you're gone.
[19:16] <rhpot1991> mrand: I had ideas too but same issue
[19:16] <rhpot1991> also do we support linux mint?
[19:28] <mrand> rhpot1991: not officially, but I thought it just kinda worked.
[20:42] <qwebirc52918> Can anyone help? I have installed mythbunt 10 & channel scan has found all  except for one , which is also one of the strongest. An XP based system (same hardware , diffnt hard drive) tunes in to all the channels. I tried version 9 which didn't tune in to any channels. After many hours fiddling with this it seems to me that the TV part of this software is very flawed & wonder if I'll ever get it to work
[20:46] <rhpot1991> qwebirc52918: well you didn't state what tuner you use, but most tuners give you a variety of options for scanning, so perhaps the options you used eliminated that channel
[20:47] <rhpot1991> also you have your versions wrong, versions go 9.04, 9.10, 10.04, 10.10.  The version of MythTV is more important than the version of Mythbuntu/Ubuntu
[20:50] <qwebirc52918> Sorry yes I missed that out. It's a Hauppage 150PVR & I set it up as an MPEG2. Yes , also it's version 10.10. What is mistifying is why it misses out one channel which has a perfectly strong signal. Switching back to the windows system confirms this.I'll check it all again but i can't see what i can change
[20:52] <rhpot1991> qwebirc52918: its possible that the signal was too strong and was thrown out
[20:53] <rhpot1991> I think you should be able to add it by hand
[20:54] <qwebirc52918> I assume this uses the terminal..Do you know where I can find out how to do this? I've looked already but no success. Thanks
[20:56] <rhpot1991> qwebirc52918: are you using schedules direct?
[20:57] <rhpot1991> the easiest fix here is to use SD for your listings and pull your channels from there instead of scanning
[20:58] <qwebirc52918> Do mean via the listings ?
[21:00] <rhpot1991> there is a button that says something like fetch channel lineup from listings
[21:02] <qwebirc52918> OK thanks, I'm reinstalling 10.10 over 9.10 & I'll give that a try
[21:03] <rhpot1991> qwebirc52918: I'd recommend using these updates as well: http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos
[21:03] <Zinn> [www.mythbuntu.org] Mythbuntu Repositories | Mythbuntu
[21:07] <qwebirc52918> Ok thanks for that as well. I'll do both these things. By the way I'm in the UK & the  'missing' channel is BBC1. That may not mean anything if you're not UK based of course
[21:10] <rhpot1991> hmmm, schedules direct is a US thing so thats not gonna help you much then
[21:11] <rhpot1991> I wasn't aware the pvr150 was available in non US
[21:11] <mrand> rhpot1991: schedules direct contains QAM frequency/channel mapping?  I wasn't aware of that.
[21:12] <rhpot1991> mrand: does it?  I was going with analog cable impression above cause of the pvr150
[21:13] <mrand> ah, sorry... I missed that part
[21:14] <rhpot1991> mrand: I wonder if you setup your SD for OTA and not clear QAM if it would pull the info though
[21:14] <rhpot1991> I don't have an antenna so I've never tried
[21:14] <mrand> I started running another cable this weekend so taht I can try.
[21:19] <qwebirc52918> There are UK equivalents. I'll give those a try. & yes the PVR is available in the UK
[21:36] <qwebirc64616> Hi, i want the sleep function of liveTv turn off the monitor, how can i do that?
[21:38] <mycosys> say it in english?
[21:40] <mycosys> qwebirc64616
[21:41] <qwebirc64616> livetv have a "sleep" that turns livetv off, but i want it to "force dpms off" so it turns monitor off
[21:41] <qwebirc64616> like sorry about my english!!!
[21:41] <mycosys> is a setting of the underlying window manager
[21:44] <qwebirc64616> ok!! perhaps i should made a script?
[21:44] <mycosys> nah - is just a setting
[21:44] <mycosys> but isnt in myth
[21:44] <mycosys> will take 10 or 15 min by default iirc after livetv finishes if there is no user input
[21:47] <qwebirc64616> but if i put that setting won t the system turn off the monitor when livetv is on?? because there is no input when i watch tv
[21:47] <mycosys> no - most media players (myth and mplayer included) use a dpms override
[21:49] <qwebirc64616> ok, i ll try it, thank you!!


[13:47] <rhizo> Aloha
[20:42] <ga901> Hello everyone. I've a problem here. My ubuntustudio laptop does not recognize my midi keyboard. It's an oxygen 8. I had ubuntustudio installed before on this laptop and was able to use the midi keyboard with no problems but recently I had to reinstall the system and not nothnig appears in jack. any help please?
[21:48] <zequence> ga901: it might need this package to be installed: midisport-firmware
[21:48] <zequence> patience..
[21:54] <gg0091> thank you very much sir