[19:26] <florin> hei
[19:26] <upset> Does anyone know what this list it's referring to is?
[19:26] <daveinlv> jrib: I see at the bottom of the page you gave me that there is "another way, purge"... it says you lose your data, but how about if I have saved the /var/lib/mysql directory elsewhere??
[19:26] <Guest36921> k
[19:27] <Ozera> I'm on ubuntu 12.04 and i can't see the top or side bars. Everything is very laggy, but i can still access terminal and click on icons and everything. Does anyone know what is wrong and how to fix it?
[19:28] <upset> Ozera: Woah. What happened?
[19:28] <Megido> krabador: hmm
[19:28] <upset> Ozera: What was going on right before?
[19:29] <Ozera> upset: I booted up my laptop and it was just like it. Before I was working on installing eve and I was fiddling with Winetricks a lot
[19:29] <Megido> krabador: i try install steam from this deb on gentoo but after update steam cant find steamui.so
[19:29] <jrib> daveinlv: if you've backed up your data properly and have ensured you can restore your data, then I guess you can do that if you wish
[19:29] <Ozera> upset: the guest account worksjust fine
[19:29] <Megido> or libsteam.so
[19:29] <krabador> Megido, i've no problem with this
[19:29] <upset> Ozera: Oh gosh. That doesn't quite make sense.
[19:29] <daveinlv> jrib: ok tyvm for the help!
[19:30] <Ozera> upset: Yeah I have no idea what went wrong. Is unity what has broken on my machine? Compiz?
[19:30] <upset> Ozera: Do you have anything interesting installed that affects your desktop?
[19:30] <Ozera> upset: this is a laptop.  I never changed anything from the isntall
[19:32] <krabador> Megido, it's an ubuntu package, you know isn't sure that works everywhere, like debian debs on ubuntu
[19:32] <upset> Ozera: So you're saying you had a vanilla install, nothing like a wallpaper changer or anything, and then you messed with Wine, and then this?
[19:32] <upset> Ozera: No new startup applications?
[19:33] <LuizAngioletti> hello
[19:33] <Ozera> upset: o no. This install has been on ehre for a long long time. I'm just saying i never messed with Desktop Environments
[19:33] <LuizAngioletti> I was wondering how does Ubuntu manage wi-fi connections underneath Network-manager.
[19:33] <upset> Ozera: Get synaptic and use it to check for broken packages. Do you need help doing that?
[19:33] <cambazz> hello, after do-dist-upgrade , (it exited with status -1) my ubuntu will not reboot
[19:33] <cambazz> it will say the disk drive for / not ready yet or present
[19:34] <Ozera> upset: Yeah i am going to need help doing that.
[19:34] <cambazz> contunie to wait , S to skip, m for manual recovery
[19:34] <upset> Ozera: Sudo apt-get install synaptic
[19:34] <upset> *sudo
[19:35] <Ozera> upset: wait do't I already ahve that?
[19:35] <ProfessorBacon> IN MY MOUTH?
[19:35] <upset> Ozera: You may.
[19:35] <upset> Ozera: Enter the command anyway, it will tell you if you have it.
[19:35] <Ozera> upset: it will be hard to tell once i go to the broken account to try and fix
[19:35] <upset> Ozera: You don't need to enter the broken account
[19:36] <Ozera> upset: i dont?
[19:36] <upset> Ozera: No. You can use root permissions anywhere, I'm pretty sure.
[19:36] <Megido> krabador: this libs have in steam directory
[19:36] <Ozera> upset: that...sounds like a very serious security flaw.
[19:36] <Ozera> bt it works in my favor
[19:37] <krabador> Megido, probably the user can't run it
[19:37] <upset> Ozera: It's not. Anyone who is root and has root password can use it.  Okay, strange. Hold on a sec
[19:39] <Pymous> Small question ! How can I copy/paste on a Ubuntu Server on a Virtual Machine ? :)
[19:39] <Ozera> upset: okay. I think i may have to go to the broken account because i cant even log in as root
[19:39] <upset> Ozera: No, hold on.
[19:39] <upset> Ozera: Do you know what root is?
[19:40] <Ozera> upset: it is super user. su
[19:40] <upset> Ozera: Cool. So just for clarity's sake, could you post the exact command?
[19:40] <Ozera> mhm
[19:41] <Ozera> http://pastebin.com/Chm4TaRW @ upset
[19:43] <upset> Ozera: This is a toughie. Can you run frontend apps in your broken user account?
[19:43] <rar_rar> I've got nagios running in KVM/qemu and trying to get audio alerts through. But getting  apparmor="DENIED" operation="exec" parent=16584 profile="libvirt-xxx" name="/usr/bin/pulseaudio" warnings and no sound.  Any advice on apparmor and getting kvm to pass sound?
[19:43] <dmcoxfree> whats up with the windows installer mid d/l giving error files not found therefore no iso? kubuntu wants me to donate but why?
[19:44] <Ozera> upset: What do you mean? I can start everything up, but again it is very very laggy. I can click on the icons that would be on the side bar, but i can not see them.
[19:44] <CharlesWaldman> hi.  i'm running Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS, just did an 'apt-get update; apt-get upgrade' and now there's a problem with .png files .... eog can't display them, apps which use png icons (e.g. pidgin) display broken icons.  but firefox can load a png
[19:44] <dmcoxfree> ive installed ubuntu with no problems but kunbutu is a bitch getting .
[19:45] <gimpy54> I'm having a problem with wifi on 12.04 with an Intel 6250.  It connects but keeps disconnecting over and over again.  This works fine on Fedora, what could be the problem?  i already disbaled wireless N for the iwlwifi module.
[19:45] <upset> Ozera: Oh, that's not as bad as I thought. Well, first thing I recommend is installing synaptic from the broken account and going to edit-->fix broken packages
[19:46] <Ozera> okay
[19:46] <Ozera> is that it? I have to leave in ~ 4min for class
[19:46] <zykotick9> upset: fyi "sudo apt-get -f install" does the same thing...
[19:46] <dmcoxfree> cant justify donating to a kubuntu if the d/l fails.
[19:46] <upset> zykotick9: Yeah, but GUI frontends are less scary.
[19:47] <savio> upset,  apt-get check also fix broken package no?
[19:47] <upset> zykotick9: Also he could then learn about other things he could do
[19:47] <Ozera> upset: eh?
[19:47] <upset> Ozera: You should come back later if it doesn't work, I am also in class
[19:48] <alinmear> hi all! i have questions regarding nfs4: is it as secure as samba (nfs4 without kerberos authent.); is the transfer encrypted?
[19:48] <Ozera> o okay. Welp: sudo apt-get isntall synaptic
[19:48] <Ozera> then edit --> fix broken packages
[19:48] <Ozera> gotcha
[19:48] <zykotick9> alinmear: nfs is not encrypted.  i don't think samba is either...
[19:49] <bekks> alinmear: Samba transfer isnt encrypted at all.
[19:50] <alinmear> zykotick9: i want to use it for my linux enviroment at home? can i use it without kerberos and ssh for save use on wlan or not?
[19:50] <alinmear> bekks: thank you
[19:51] <bekks> alinmear: No. Use sshfs if you have to rely on an insecure wlan.
[19:53] <alinmear> bekks: when is use sshfs is there a way for limitating the access to the nfs4 share; i think right now when my wlan gets compromised everybody is able to mount my share, isnt it?
[19:54] <bekks> No, it isnt. You have to define the access to your shares.
[19:55] <alinmear> bekks: ah ok, thx for reply!
[19:56] <searching> In /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf the theme of greeter theme=Industrial
[19:56] <ForSpareParts> I just installed 12.10 and Chrome isn't appearing in the list of running programs in the alt-tab window switcher. Any clue why?
[19:56] <cory__> hello i need some help with my ubuntu 12.10 it is not finding the wifi everything else in house does
[19:57] <searching> I have Lubuntu Default
[19:57] <cory__> hello i need some help with my ubuntu 12.10 it is not finding the wifi everything else in house does
[19:58] <arronhunt> cory__ can it just not find your network or is it any wifi network?
[19:59] <TheLordOfTime> !repeat | cory__
[19:59] <SpaceRocket> after I installed kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu  and while I'm on Unity, many apps like xchat are using the KDE look & feel, how do I restore the GTK look to all apps?
[20:00] <cory__> i ahve d-link and it is not finding it and it can work ethernet cord but there is no wifi connecation
[20:00] <cory__> i cant find it, i am very new to software
[20:01] <riseandshine> cory i had the same problem did you try just enter the ssid and the password?
[20:01] <guilhermekfe> I wanna install Ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop, there is currently 11GB free for it, is it ok to create a developing environment? My RAM's size is 6GB, should I add swap?
[20:01] <cory__> where do i find the ssid
[20:01] <riseandshine> the ssid is the network name you gave your network
[20:01] <cory__> riseandshine where do i find the ssid
[20:02] <marios> good evening
[20:02] <cory__> so would it be a number or a name because the name is d-link
[20:03] <riseandshine> depends on what you choose in your access point
[20:03] <SpaceRocket> after I installed kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu  and while I'm on Unity, many apps like xchat are using the KDE look & feel, how do I restore the GTK look to all apps?
[20:03] <riseandshine> its the name that shows up when you are searching for networks
[20:04] <marios> I'm having issues getting my wireless to work, is this the correct place to ask for help ?
[20:04] <cory__> okay can you break it down for me and tell me how to do it in a easy type fashion i have no idea what to do.. please
[20:05] <marios> i have received a dell laptop, with ubuntu preinstalled
[20:05] <marios> i upgraded it to 12.04LTS
[20:05] <marios> wifi card is detected as eth1, using the wl driver
[20:06] <marios> ok so far
[20:06] <blackhole> guys help me im using ubuntu 12.04 but i can't send message using my facebook
[20:06] <marios> when i try to connect to my wireless network at home .. well i can't
[20:06] <marios> network manager doesn't show my SSID
[20:07] <marios> (router works fine, the laptop i'm currently using is connected to it)
[20:07] <blackhole> even like or post a message in facebook please help me...
[20:07] <marios> i have tried disabling the wl broadcam-sta driver
[20:07] <gordonjcp> blackhole: are you actually on facebook?
[20:07] <marios> and i loaded the open source driver
[20:07] <blackhole> yap
[20:07] <marios> card gets wlan0 name
[20:08] <marios> sees /more/ essids, but still not mine :(
[20:08] <blackhole> gordonjcp, YES
[20:08] <marios> (either in network-manager or plain through iwlist wlan0 scanning)
[20:08] <gordonjcp> blackhole: perhaps you have some sort of network problem, or maybe facebook is down where you are, or maybe it's blocked by whoever runs your network
[20:08] <gordonjcp> blackhole: it's not an Ubuntu problem, though
[20:09] <marios> card is bcm4313
[20:09] <blackhole> gordonjcp, give me step to avoid that
[20:09] <marios> and i'm running out of ideas :p
[20:09] <TheLordOfTime> blackhole, facebook's up from here, so whatever the issue is, its not an Ubuntu issue...
[20:09] <SpaceRocket> how to make GTK dialogs effective again after installing KDE on Ubuntu?
[20:09] <MisterMom> marios, mayby your router is configured to not brodcast ssid
[20:09] <zykotick9> marios: have you seen the !broadcom factoid link?  "/msg ubottu broadcom", it's specific to your chip
[20:10] <blackhole> gordonjcp, in chat im using the xchat
[20:10] <gordonjcp> blackhole: okay...?
[20:10] <marios> router is broadcasting ssid
[20:10] <TheLordOfTime> blackhole, if its a networking problem not in your network, it should self-resolve eventually (hopefully) .  if its facebook down in your region, wait.  if its being blocked on your network, talk to the administrator.  Its not a true ubuntu issue though, so there's not too much we can help you with on this.
[20:11] <marios> looking at the factoid now
[20:11] <blackhole> gordonjcp, do you think i been compromise?
[20:11] <gordonjcp> blackhole: I don't see any relevance
[20:12] <blackhole> gordonjcp, it's been 2 weeks for now...
[20:13] <marios> hm
[20:13] <lime__> XKB keeps throwing errors
[20:13] <blackhole> gordonjcp, my ubuntu is ok but when i log-in on my facebook  everything is a mess..
[20:13] <marios> b43 doesn't support my chip
[20:14] <lime__> Is there a way I can reset the keyboard edits back to the default?
[20:14] <marios> and i've already tried the sta/brcmsmac drivers
[20:14] <marios> they both half-work
[20:14] <marios> I guess i'll try to get a more recent kernel
[20:14] <blackhole> gordonjcp, when i press like in facebook its back to 'like"
[20:15] <marios> perhaps there have been fixes/improvements since 3.2.0
[20:15] <marios> thanks for the tip zykotick9
[20:15] <blackhole> gordonjcp, do you think i have to update my java in ubuntu 12.04
[20:16] <blackhole> this is head ache for me...
[20:16] <gordonjcp> blackhole: no idea, but facebook doesn't use java
[20:16] <gordonjcp> blackhole: if your web browser is working, facebook will work
[20:16] <blackhole> gordonjcp, thanks nayway
[20:16] <gordonjcp> blackhole: assuming you haven't got some weird local network issue
[20:17] <blackhole> gordonjcp, i don't know, what wierd? you mean i.p or somthing like that?
[20:18]  * NightmareNightMo
[20:19] <ubuntu-userr> ubuntu 12.4 is freezing so often now when i am surfing on firefox can anybody tell me why, i had this problem never before
[20:21] <blackhole> gordonjcp, by the way thanks for help
[20:22] <g0bl1n> hi, using Gnome, need a hint to take a screenshot for a section of the screen only. Like Cmd+Shift+4 on OSX. If not possible, will use the fab Shutter
[20:23] <alinmear> how does the uid and guid check work in nfs4?
[20:23] <alinmear> is it save for authentication"
[20:23] <LuizAngioletti> How does ubuntu manage wi-fi connections, underneath the Network-Manager:
[20:23] <LuizAngioletti> ?
[20:30] <ubuntu-userr> ubuntu 12.4 is freezing so often now when i am surfing on firefox can anybody tell me why, i had this problem never before
[20:32] <keithzg> Trying to send a message to all logged in terminal sessions of a specific group, but apparently -g isn't a valid option for the Linux version of "wall" (I swear it is on at least some form of BSD)
[20:32] <keithzg> Is there any alternative?
[20:35] <jrib> keithzg: I guess I would just use write and loop over the users in the group.  I don't know if there is some "built-in" way
[20:36] <action09> hi all i use python and virtualenv installed from python-virtualenv  python-pip, when i see virtualenv help it say that  "--no-site-packages" Don't give access to the global site-packages dir to the virtual environment (default; deprecated)
[20:36] <action09> but when i create an env with this option site-packages dir is present..
[20:37] <nonkn4mer> ontime: Yes, I am back now
[20:39] <OpenSorce> Hey guys, I just used gparted to create a new 60gb partition from free space, it will only let me create it as a Primary partition and then when it's done if I df the drive it says it's only 1.5gb and it won't let me mount it. What am I doing wrong?
[20:41] <ikonia> OpenSorce: have you rebooted after partioning ?
[20:41] <ikonia> or re-run partprobe
[20:42] <OpenSorce> ikonia, yes
[20:42] <ikonia> pastebin the output of fdisk -l
[20:42] <OpenSorce> ikonia, I'll try partprobe
[20:43] <ikonia> why ?
[20:43] <ikonia> you've rebooted
[20:43] <ikonia> no point
[20:44] <OpenSorce> ikonia, odd... partprobe gives no output. Anyway, should it be a primary partition?
[20:44] <ikonia> primary/logical doesn't matter
[20:44] <ikonia> please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l please.
[20:45] <OpenSorce> ikonia, rgr that one sec
[20:45] <voxcroix> hi
[20:45] <skulltip> anyone using default ubuntu w/unity, I dare you to hit F1 for any help screen
[20:46] <ProfessorBacon> challenge: accepted
[20:46] <ProfessorBacon> except i'm not at home
[20:46] <ikonia> skulltip: how about just explain your problem/ask for help rather than these sort of silly games
[20:46] <voxcroix> i using 64bit 12.10
[20:46] <andreb> hi all
[20:46] <BlueEagle> !enter | voxcroix
[20:46] <andreb> how can i recover a deleted tar.gz file ?
[20:47] <ikonia> andreb: you don't
[20:47] <ikonia> andreb: you need to re-download it
[20:47] <andreb> its a backup file i made
[20:47] <OpenSorce> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/YPpbFXin
[20:47] <ikonia> andreb: how did you delete it ?
[20:47] <andreb> rm -rf
[20:47] <ikonia> andreb: then it's gone
[20:47] <skulltip> when i hit F1 the help screen to any application keeps popping up and stealing focus
[20:47] <BlueEagle> andreb: which file does the partition have on which the file was removed from?
[20:47] <ikonia> OpenSorce: which partition is the problem ?
[20:47] <ikonia> OpenSorce: partition 1 ?
[20:48] <BlueEagle> filesystem*
[20:48] <OpenSorce> ikonia, /dev/sda3/
[20:48] <ikonia> OpenSorce: that's not a pimary
[20:48] <mebuntu> Hi. What is the equivalent of Kubuntu that uses Gnome instead of KDE? I couldn't find any such thing as Gubuntu and Gobuntu means something else.
[20:48] <ikonia> OpenSorce: that's a logical within the logical partition /dev/sda2
[20:48] <ikonia> OpenSorce: actually, it's not, I see the problem
[20:49] <OpenSorce> ikonia, Gparted said it was... anyway, I can't mount it.
[20:49] <Stuz719> mebuntu Ubuntu GNOME remix?
[20:49] <ikonia> OpenSorce: between /dev/sda1's end and the start of the logical partition /dev/sda1 is only a small amount of space
[20:49] <ikonia> OpenSorce: that's a bad/sloppy partition table
[20:50] <Stuz719> mebuntu But why would you want GNOME when you can have Unity? ;-)
[20:50] <guntbert_> ikonia: if I remember correctly logical partition start with #5
[20:50] <OpenSorce> ikonia, so redo it and give it more space at the beginning?
[20:50] <ikonia> guntbert_: correct
[20:51] <ikonia> guntbert_: but if you look at his partition table, it's all out of sync
[20:51] <mebuntu> Stuz719: What is the package name? I can't find any remix-desktop or gnome-desktop. I can only find xubuntu-desktop along with (k)ubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop. It's very strange that based on Gnome.
[20:51] <guntbert_> ikonia: true :)
[20:51] <ikonia> OpenSorce: just take a moment to actually read the paste you've given to me, look at the "start" and "end" numbers for each partition, and it should be obvious (hopefully) where you've lost the space
[20:51] <EntropyWorks> how is /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules created actually? It does not seem to be working for 12.10 server
[20:51] <Stuz719> mebuntu - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10
[20:51] <OpenSorce> ikonia, this was 60 gigs of my windows drive /dev/sda1 that I wanted to use in Linux
[20:52] <ikonia> OpenSorce: remember, you can 't move partition 2 or anything that's within partitions 2's start/end count
[20:52] <ikonia> OpenSorce: have you put a file system on it ?
[20:52] <OpenSorce> ikonia, yes I put ext3 on it like my other linux partitions
[20:52] <ikonia> ext3 ?
[20:52] <ikonia> not ext4 ?
[20:53] <mebuntu> Stuz719:  Oh, but I can't reinstall the whole thing again. I just need the package name and I want to simply apt-get it.
[20:53] <xangua> !info ubuntu-gnome-desktop | mebuntu Stuz719
[20:53] <OpenSorce> ikonia, many upgrades since my first Ubuntu install :-P
[20:53] <skulltip> ok it's when i have a terminal program opened and hit F1, forces me to log out and back in
[20:53] <ikonia> OpenSorce: from that side comment, I would suggest a clean isntall to a.) sort out your file system version b.) sort out your partition table, but from your current problem, what's the error when you try to mount it
[20:53] <mebuntu> Stuz719: Thanks a lot.
[20:54] <Stuz719> mebuntu np thanx to ubottu and xangua
[20:55] <Stuz719> skulltip F1 in terminal brings up terminal help for me - do you mean with a program or within the terminal?
[20:55] <mebuntu> Stuz719: Oh, it seems it's not available in my Precise :((
[20:56] <OpenSorce> ikonia, well when I manually mounted it it gave me no trouble... it's the auto-mount that wouldn't work and that error was just "failed to mount..."
[20:56] <ikonia> OpenSorce: look at things like the volume label, make sure there is nothing silly in there that could cause the automounter problem
[20:56] <ikonia> OpenSorce: but I'd still strongly advise you to sort points a.) and b.) out
[20:57] <Stuz719> mebuntu try synaptic?
[20:57] <xangua> !nounity | mebuntu
[20:57] <mebuntu> Stuz719: Yes, I searched all of Synaptic
[20:57] <Stuz719> ubottu great reply
[20:58] <skulltip> Stuz719 -  it brings up a help screen repeatedly and steals focus.
[20:59] <gimpy54> I'm having a problem with wifi on 12.04 with an Intel 6250.  It connects but keeps disconnecting over and over again.  This works fine on Fedora, what could be the problem?  i already disbaled wireless N for the iwlwifi module.
[20:59] <Stuz719> skulltip what are you searching for help on?
[20:59] <skulltip> i hit it accidentally sometimes
[20:59] <OpenSorce> ikonia, yeah it looks like it's time for a fresh install soon. Just hate to do that I've done so much customization to this :-P
[20:59] <OpenSorce> ikonia, thanks a lot for your help
[20:59] <Stuz719> skulltip are you pressing ESC or 1 a lot?
[21:00] <Laputa> hi, anyone here ever tried to connect to a remote sybase server using php ?
[21:00] <skulltip> this is gnome terminal btw, not hitting those keys alot. i was running another application and hit f1 for help not realizing i had my terminal in focus. it launched help repeatedly
[21:02] <skulltip> this time i selected Help/contents  (hotkey F1) and it did the same thing
[21:03] <Stuz719> skulltip try changing keyboard shortcuts in System Settings?4
[21:04] <jardineworks> gordonjcp, Finished upgrading to Ubuntu 12.10... headphones still aren't working for me :(
[21:04] <skulltip> what shortcut do i change
[21:05] <Stuz719> skulltip Look through them all (System settings/keyboard) and see which looks likely?
[21:05] <Stuz719> skulltip you can always change them back if you keep notes...
[21:06] <urgodfather> has anyone tested kernel 3.7?
[21:07] <emx> which ipod-capable player do you prefere?
[21:07] <xangua> i preffer no ipod :)
[21:07] <emx> xangua, not prefering ipod is not an option :P
[21:08] <Stuz719> xangua good call!
[21:08] <emx> heh. shut up and answer my question :P
[21:08] <xangua> !polls | emx
[21:08] <cheekee> I have 12.04 32 bit but want to upgrade to 12.10 64 bit. Is there an approved way to do this?
[21:08] <zykotick9> cheekee: yes, reinstall.
[21:08] <xangua> cheekee: backup your important data, reinstall
[21:09] <edve> anyones knows how to mount a folder into another one ?
[21:09] <Stuz719> emx problem is with apple constantly moving the goalposts. I used to like Banshee but then it stopped working with my nano
[21:09] <jardineworks> anyone care to take another stab at helping me get my headphones to work with 12.10 x64?
[21:09] <emx> for the record: thanks Stuz719
[21:09] <jardineworks> on an Alienware m17x r4
[21:10] <jardineworks> supposed to work OOTB ... but still not working for me :(
[21:10] <emx> xangua, how do i ask bestbot?
[21:10] <TandyUK> edve: mount --bind /src/path/ /target/mount/point/
[21:11] <emx> never mind. /topic says it
[21:12] <SierraAR> Is there a way to get internet explorer running on ubuntu through wine?
[21:12] <SierraAR> I havent been able to find any working instructions
[21:13] <urgodfather> zykotick9: are there any known issues to kernel 3.7 on 12.10?
[21:14] <zykotick9> urgodfather: i'd have NO idea...
[21:14] <cheekee> thanks  zylotic9 and xangua. My last question is I have forgotten the easy to spell names like zykotick9 without spelling each letter
[21:14] <emx> xangua, don't redirect ppl to bestbot. it's far from usable.
[21:14] <Jordan_U> SierraAR: Why do you want to run IE?
[21:14] <urgodfather> zykotick9: how would i check? is there a dev room?
[21:14] <zykotick9> !tab | cheekee
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> urgodfather  the latest used in 12.10 is 3.5, guess what you're using is not (yet) suported
[21:14] <cheekee> ubottu: thanks
[21:15] <urgodfather> MonkeyDust: yeah, im running on a Poulsbo chip which sucks, but from what i have read, 3.7 has more bug fixes for the gma500
[21:15] <zykotick9> urgodfather: i'm gonna guess you'll find minimal support for 3rd party kernels.  best of luck.
[21:16] <lurker> For a few weeks now I have a problem with my ubuntu (mythbuntu, actually) box after it worked for two years: Every other time it tries to boot, it hangs displaying an error message "hd0,1 out of disk" or "failed to boot both default and fallback entries". Then, I usually switch it off and back on and it works as expected. How can I get it to boot reliably again?
[21:17] <urgodfather> zykotick9: im aware of that, but i did see that 3.7 is avail on kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> urgodfather  you're on your own, i guess
[21:18] <ontime> did you want me for something nonkn4mer?
[21:19] <Jordan_U> lurker: That error usually means that you have a buggy BIOS which can't properly handle large disks.
[21:19] <Jordan_U> lurker: The usual work around for that is to make a small /boot/ partition near the beginning of the disk.
[21:19] <nonkn4mer> ontime: yeah, I looked through the sonicwall site, and appears all of their devices (TZ series for cost efficiency) support failover.  I'm sure other brands do, too.  just speaking to what I have experience with.  Wanted to wrap up that train of throught.
[21:20] <pingpongping> is there a way to check fan speed ?
[21:20] <pingpongping> on ubuntu
[21:21] <ontime> nonkn4mer: thank you. it is much appreciated.
[21:21] <zykotick9> !lm-sensors | pingpongping
[21:26] <lurker> Jordan_U: I think we can exclude that from the list of possible reasons, since that same harddisk worked for over a year. The boot errors started some weeks ago.
[21:27] <MrMagoo> Hey, Can someone help me change back my grub timeout value to 1 (i am only able to boot to the livecd)
[21:27] <lurker> The box was disconnected from AC power before that started.
[21:27] <MrMagoo> i know how to do it if the kernel is loaded but not from the live cd
[21:29] <Jordan_U> lurker: This type of bug tends to crop up late, your BIOS *can* read earlier parts of the disk, but not later ones (ones beyond its limit). That means that as long as all of the files that need to be read through the BIOS happen to be stored early in the disk, you won't notice any problems.
[21:29] <BarkingFish> sorry, just a little x-channel posting: Does anyone know if pulseaudio has been recently updated?  Mine has stopped capturing properly now, I have a constant "hum" in the background which is drowning out recording.
[21:30] <Jordan_U> lurker: You can confirm that this is the problem by looking at the size that your BIOS reports the disk as, either in BIOS menus or by running "ls -l" from the grub shell and comparing it to the actual size.
[21:31] <lurker> Jordan_U: Thank you very much, I'll try that when I get to the box again.
[21:31] <Jordan_U> lurker: You're welcome.
[21:31] <moon`> How stable are the compiz-extras update on ubuntu 12.10 running cinnamon?  I'd like to get the wobbly windows feature back cause it's pretty cool but not at the expense of having to deal with trying to fix a crash
[21:32] <ikonia> moon`: well considering cinnamon isn't packaged by ubuntu, I'd say your at a good risk
[21:32] <ikonia> as in a high risk
[21:32] <emx> does anyone have experience with rhythmbox and ipod? what happens if i have audiofiles only on my ipod? will they be deleted because there are no local ones (in rhythmbox)?
[21:33] <ed_> Hello everybody. Does anyone know how to switch from VESA drivers to Nouveau on an optimus based machine?
[21:33] <Litie> I am bot
[21:33] <ikonia> ed_: you change it in the xorg.conf
[21:33] <Litie> I art from source of Greedi humanoid
[21:33] <ikonia> Litie: then please /part the channel, as speaking bots are not allowed
[21:33] <moon`> so if I wasn't using cinnamon it would be more stable?  Cause last time I hadn't started using cinnamon yet and installing the compiz-extras created one heck of a problem
[21:33] <_Marcus> I cant use the ls command, the permissions are strange. It wont let me chown it, and when I run "dir -l | grep "ls"" it shows this: -rwxr-xr-x 1  122 admin   39696 2011-02-23 09:24 ls
[21:33] <Litie> syntax invalid speak
[21:34] <_Marcus> How can I fix this?
[21:34] <Litie> I can not speak
[21:34] <Litie> I am a bot
[21:34] <Litie> I have no vocal cords
[21:35] <deadmund> _Marcus: The 122 is the ID of the owner of the file.  On your system there is no owner with ID 122.  TO chown or chmod the file use sudo.  You should change the owner to somebody that is actually on the system.  (you can change the owner using the username, not the number)
[21:35] <_Marcus> deadmund: I did this as root.
[21:35] <DeLorean731> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and firefox and I'm trying to run a java game that seems to be failing to load the plugin (it just sits at a blank screen where the game would normally load). I have installed openjdk-7-jre and icedtea-7-plugin. Any suggestions?
[21:36] <lurker> Jordan_U: Oh, one thing. Why does a reboot work?
[21:36] <deadmund> _Marcus: also, you have a file named "ls" are you talking about the ls binary?
[21:36] <_Marcus> deadmund: The binary
[21:36] <Jordan_U> lurker: I'm honestly not sure about that one. It'd be interesting to compare the values from "ls -l" from multiple boots, seeing if it ever changes.
[21:36] <zykotick9> DeLorean731: perhaps the game doesn't work with openjava?
[21:37] <deadmund> _Marcus: I see, you can't use it...  Which is _very_ strange because it's 755 (anyone can execute it).   Is this server in use right now?
[21:38] <_Marcus> Yes
[21:39] <_Marcus> If I change it back fast it'll be fine
[21:39] <deadmund> _Marcus: forget it, the point is, if you chmod it or chown it as root, do you get an error?  Do the permissions (from dir -l) change?
[21:39] <bkfitz> Anyone here use JottaCloud
[21:39] <bkfitz> or have it integrated with Ubuntu
[21:40] <SierraAR> Jordan_U: Sorry for the delay. I'm doing some web dev and want to make sure the HTML/CSS setup works properly in IE
[21:40] <guntbert_> !anyone | bkfitz
[21:40] <_Marcus> deadmund: It gets this error: chown: changing ownership of `ls': Operation not permitted
[21:40] <pingpongping> I Installed gnome sensor applet
[21:40] <jozefina> siema czaku
[21:40] <pingpongping> but can't find it
[21:40] <tmk> siema
[21:40] <deadmund> _Marcus: even as root?
[21:40] <_Marcus> deadmund: Yes
[21:40] <tmk> działa dzódi
[21:41] <zykotick9> pingpongping: if you install lm-sensors, typing "sensors" in a terminal should show you the fan speed (if your hardware is supported)
[21:41] <elena-IK> I searched for banshee in software center, it shows up 3 times ( http://s8.postimage.org/bulutzu43/banshee.png ). bug?
[21:41] <Jordan_U> SierraAR: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page , reading that page you'll basically see that a VM running Windows is your only good option.
[21:41] <jozefina> sasasasa
[21:41] <bkfitz> Question: Does anyone here use JottaCloud, if so, do you have it integrated with Ubuntu
[21:41] <lurker> Jordan_U: I'll have to get my other keyboard, since my radio keyboard doesn't seem to work in grub rescue console.
[21:41] <guntbert_> !pl | jozefina
[21:41] <deadmund> _Marcus: can you sudo chmod it 755 and then sudo chown it, then chmod it back to 755 ?
[21:41] <xauth> _Marcus: "Operation not permitted" is not "Permission denied"
[21:41] <lurker> bye
[21:42] <deadmund> xauth: Your point being?
[21:42] <deadmund> _Marcus: I think that chattr is required here.
[21:42] <xauth> It's not a permission issue.
[21:42] <ed_> Damn spammer, sigh
[21:42] <ed_> *spammers
[21:42] <deadmund> _Marcus: where is your ls binary?  Is it in the path variable?
[21:43] <_Marcus> deadmund: Yes. I cant do /bin/ls either
[21:43] <_Marcus> deadmund: I tried chmod: chmod: changing permissions of `ls': Operation not permitted
[21:43] <emx> is there a harrdisk / cpu / whatnot monitory in the default install?
[21:43] <deadmund> _Marcus: Is the filesystem mounted read-only? (look with mount)
[21:43] <xauth> Perhaps it on a strange kind of filesystem, or it has an immutable attribute or something.
[21:43] <nonkn4mer> emx: there are a few different bins for each of those
[21:44] <_Marcus> deadmund: How do I check?
[21:44] <nonkn4mer> top netop  and df -kh to name a few
[21:44] <nonkn4mer> nettop*
[21:44] <xauth> _Marcus: cat /proc/mounts
[21:44] <Jordan_U> _Marcus: This is a very odd situation? Do you have any idea how it came about? If not, I'm tempted to say that you should re-install because who knows what else might be wrong that you just don't know about yet.
[21:45] <Jordan_U> s/situation?/situation./
[21:45] <deadmund> _Marcus: lsattr /bin/ls   ?
[21:45] <elena-IK> what determines where in the menu an application shows up? why is filelight (a disk usage viewer) in accessories and baobab (another disk usage viewer) in system?
[21:45] <_Marcus> Jordan_U: I have no idea. I checked the server today and it just wouldn't let me do ls
[21:45] <deadmund> _Marcus: check if it's mounted read only be looking at the output of "mount"
[21:45] <emx> nonkn4mer, i had a look at a few but none of the seems to track harddisk traffic. are there any (except gkrellm)
[21:46] <deadmund> _Marcus: Jordan_U It is bizarre to say the least.
[21:46] <nonkn4mer> emx: I believe iop does that.  let me check
[21:46] <feeshon> What is the best way to install Propietary Nvidia drivers in Ubutnu 12
[21:46] <feeshon> ?
[21:46] <zykotick9> emx: that's iotop btw
[21:46] <_Marcus> deadmund: I don't see anything about /bin in "mount"
[21:46] <xpozed> can someone tell me where to install matlab2009b to be able to use the matlab package from the software center or it doesn't matter ? i am trying in /usr/share/matlab
[21:47] <Don_> why does LTSP on Edubuntu not work on full load
[21:47] <nonkn4mer> emx: iostat will show you disk traffic
[21:47] <xauth> _Marcus: in that case, look for /
[21:47] <deadmund> _Marcus: /bin is probably part of your / partition, mount shows how partitions are mounted.  Can you pastebin the output of mount for me to look?  ( paste.ubuntu.com )
[21:47] <_Marcus> xauth: rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
[21:47] <dkam> Can someone tell me how I'd reinstall the kernel and grub?  I accidentally toasted my partition table and /boot.  I've fixed partition table but /boot didn't make it and is now empty.
[21:47] <xauth> _Marcus: Ah. Nothing special there.
[21:47] <deadmund> _Marcus: that's it, not mounted ro (readonly) it's mounted rw (read-write) which is normal.  Can you do lsattr /bin/ls   ?
[21:47] <xauth> hmm...
[21:48] <urgodfather> zykotick9: so, i attempted a kernel upgrade but after reboot, i had "unmet packages" so i apt-get install -f and it forced me to revert back to 3.5. any clue as to what i might have done wrong. i fetched the 3 i386 .deb files, and installed linux-*.deb
[21:48] <xpozed> Can someone that is using matlab 2009b pm me pls
[21:48] <xauth> _Marcus: yes, try lsattr /bin/ls
[21:48] <zykotick9> urgodfather: sorry, no idea.  good luck.
[21:48] <_Marcus> deadmund: xauth: s---ia-----------e- /bin/ls
[21:48] <deadmund> that's a problem
[21:48] <_Marcus> Why?
[21:48] <deadmund> mine is all blank, looking up what those letters mean now
[21:48] <pingpongping> funny how ubuntu work
[21:49] <deadmund> ejnovak@th136-2:~> lsattr /bin/ls --------------- /bin/ls
[21:49] <xauth> _Marcus: guessing here: i = immutable.
[21:49] <pingpongping> app installed but never show where it is
[21:49] <_Marcus> deadmund: Other files only have e
[21:49] <urgodfather> zykotick9: do you know anyone you could recommend me to talk to?
[21:49] <zykotick9> urgodfather: i don't...
[21:49] <nonkn4mer> emx: iostat has a tps column (transactions per second) that ~ equates to ipos.
[21:49] <nonkn4mer> emx: iops*
[21:49] <_Marcus> How do I fix this?
[21:49] <deadmund> _Marcus: using chattr   exactly how, I'm not sure.
[21:49] <urgodfather> zykotick9: isnt there a dev room where i might be able to get some help?
[21:50] <_Marcus> ps and netstat have this too, and I can't use them
[21:50] <xangua> urgodfather: like you were told before you should be using the kernel provided by the ubuntu official repository
[21:50] <zykotick9> urgodfather: i believe so.  try alis "/msg ubottu alis" for details
[21:50] <MontyMoose> anyone got 2 secs to talk me through enabling MP3 support in FFMPEG, i've read a number of tutorials, but they keep telling me to install packages which no longer exist and I'm stuck - any one free? thanks.
[21:50] <deadmund> _Marcus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chattr   using +i or -i   (description section)
[21:50] <urgodfather> xangua: the kernel was from the ubuntu mainline repo
[21:51] <MontyMoose> Ubuntu 12.4 LTS by the way (thanks)
[21:51] <nonkn4mer> emx: ps -aux is another CLI utility to view activity
[21:51] <emx> nonkn4mer, zykotick9, thanks. what do i need to install to get those two??
[21:51] <_Marcus> deadmund: Will this work? I don't want to break my system
[21:51] <zykotick9> nonkn4mer: it's "ps aux" with a - you get a warning/error at teh top
[21:51] <nonkn4mer> zykotick9: hmm.  never erros for me, but works without the -, too
[21:51] <deadmund> _Marcus: never done it before.  But I feel very safe running sudo chattr -i /bin/ls   (it will make your ls and my ls more similar according to lsattr)
[21:52] <_Marcus> k
[21:52] <nonkn4mer> emx: ps aux and top are built in
[21:52] <zykotick9> nonkn4mer: with the - check the top of the output...
[21:52] <deadmund> _Marcus: I'm trying to figure out what the e flag is
[21:52] <urgodfather> zykotick9: for future reference, the dev room is #ubuntu-devel
[21:52] <fdm> Does anyone know how can I  chage theme via console in Lubuntu? I need it to setup theme with uck
[21:52] <nonkn4mer> zykotick9: heh.  well what do you know?  :)
[21:52] <_Marcus> deadmund: Says this: s----a-----------e- /bin/ls
[21:52] <emx> wowowow. just looking at vmstat. on my old system i got around 1000 interrupts. what did i do wrong? :P
[21:52] <_Marcus> deadmund: But still can't use it
[21:52] <xauth> deadmund: e=extents. It's only low level storage information on the file.
[21:52] <emx> nonkn4mer, i meant iotop and iostat
[21:53] <_Marcus> xauth: What is the s?
[21:53] <zykotick9> emx: for iotop "sudo apt-get install iotop" fyi it needs sudo to run.  i don't know about iostat
[21:53] <_Marcus> xauth: And the a
[21:53] <nonkn4mer> emx: apt-get install sysstat
[21:53] <deadmund> e = extents, he just said that
[21:54] <deadmund> a = append only
[21:54] <emx> err... how do i open a second terminal? =)
[21:54] <nonkn4mer> are you in CLI or GUI?
[21:54] <nonkn4mer> emx: ^^
[21:54] <Jordan_U> _Marcus: Are you the only person that administers this server?
[21:54] <guntbert_> emx: middle click on the symbol in the launcher
[21:55] <_Marcus> Jordan_U: No. My father actually does too.
[21:55] <nonkn4mer> zykotick9: good call on vmstat.  I never use it but it's got good info in it, too
[21:55] <zykotick9> nonkn4mer: ;)  that wasn't me.  i'm unfamiliar with vmstat
[21:55] <Jordan_U> _Marcus: Have you asked him if he's messed with the permissions and attributes of ls or other files?
[21:56] <_Marcus> Jordan_U: He doesn't know how
[21:56] <emx> nonkn4mer, gui. guntbert_, thanks
[21:56] <fishcooker> is there any official package inssider for ubuntu 10.04
[21:56] <fishcooker> ?
[21:56] <fishcooker> i can't search from repo
[21:56] <deadmund> finding a complete listing of the lsattr attributes is far too difficult
[21:56] <_Marcus> deadmund: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lsattr s is for secure deletion
[21:57] <guntbert_> deadmund: man chattr :-)
[21:57] <deadmund> _Marcus: well, now that you turned immutable off, you should be able to chmod and chown again.  But you should still be able to execute (I see no evidence as to why you cannot)
[21:57] <deadmund> guntbert_: thanks
[21:57] <RickZilla> How often is ubuntu LTS released?
[21:57] <budmang> so I have 10GB ram in my work station. I left it for 2 weeks running doing nothing while im gone.. all 10GB is in use and swap is completely full too... any way to avoid or refresh this with out rebooting? 12.10?
[21:57] <fishcooker> c
[21:57] <Don_> how do i get started
[21:57] <ElixirVitae> Hi!
[21:57] <_Marcus> deadmund: I still can't.
[21:58] <xangua> RickZilla: every 4 releases/2 years
[21:58] <deadmund> _Marcus: not even /bin/ls   ?
[21:58] <_Marcus> deadmund: no
[21:58] <deadmund> what errors do you get?
[21:58] <ElixirVitae> If I wanted to mount external HDD when ubuntu boots, should I add them through fstab?
[21:58] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: yes
[21:58] <RickZilla> xangua: Thanks, what are the trade offs between a 2 year and a 6 month cycle upgrades?
[21:58] <ElixirVitae> I want my torrent client to not download files again, it did so in two instances
[21:58] <Jordan_U> _Marcus: Then you really need to think about how you could have gottent to this state. Adding the immutable attribute to /bin/ls is bizzarre and does not happen accidentily. I guess it could have been an intruder, though breaking ls in this way is certainly not a great way to hide the fact that they've compromised your server. Possibly they tried to add a modified ls that hid their activities and failed miserably.
[21:58] <_Marcus> deadmund: chmod: changing permissions of `ls': Operation not permitted
[21:59] <zykotick9> ElixirVitae: is it always connected?  you might run into issues if it isn't...
[21:59] <ElixirVitae> It is, mostly.
[21:59] <deadmund> _Marcus: I have no idea.
[21:59] <ElixirVitae> But bear in mind this is laptop and I leave HDD at home sometimes
[21:59] <_Marcus> Jordan_U: I'll figure it out once it's fixed. Would reinstalling coreutils work?
[21:59] <zykotick9> ElixirVitae: "mostly" ;)  it's not a big deal, but whenever it isn't - boot is gonna fail, and you'll need to ^d (i think) to continue booting.
[22:00] <Jordan_U> _Marcus: If you can't figure out exactly how you got into this state, you really should re-install this server, and check your backups carefully to be sure they don't contain anything nefarious.
[22:01] <ElixirVitae> Is there a way to tell torrent client that if HDD is not connected, don't try to download?
[22:01] <ElixirVitae> I use qbittorrent btw.
[22:01] <RickZilla> ElixirVitae: I would think that's specific to the torrent app, and not to ubuntu generally, though I could be wrong
[22:02] <Jordan_U> _Marcus: If it is an intrusion, you don't "fix" and intrusion bit by bit, you re-install. You can't know what they've changed or what back doors they've added. If it's not an intrusion then you've had a bizzarre and catastrophic failure of some kind and you still can't be sure what other than coreutils might be broken that you just don't know about yet. Unless you figure out exactly how this state came about, completely re-install ...
[22:02] <Jordan_U> ... Ubuntu.
[22:02] <ElixirVitae> The thing is, if it does not find the previously established location, it assumes that file is not there
[22:02] <Monotoko> hey all... does anyone know how I can assign a hotkey to the sidebar? I use synergy (keyboard+mouse sharing), and when I have the sidebar on autohide I can't reactive it because the mouse just goes to my other PC
[22:02] <_Marcus> Jordan_U: Okay
[22:03] <Ed_____> Hello everybody, can anyone help me with a problem with some nouveau drivers?
[22:03] <ElixirVitae> and it creates a folder under /media
[22:03] <Ed_____> Does anybody know how to replace load nouveau drivers instead of the Vesa ones?
[22:03] <Ed_____> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04
[22:04]  * zykotick9 wonders if nouveau was in 10.04...
[22:04] <Ed_____> yeah, they were...
[22:04] <Ed_____> I've got a GT520M
[22:04] <ElixirVitae> Would defining HDD partitions in fstab with UUID help at all?
[22:04] <Ed_____> and Bumblebee works fine
[22:05] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: It is the preferred method.
[22:06] <ElixirVitae> But, whatever I do, if HDD were not connected during boot, torrent client will try to download.
[22:06] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: Indeed it will
[22:06] <ElixirVitae> So, no solution at that part.
[22:06] <ElixirVitae> ;_;
[22:06] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: You could write a script that, on login, checks to see if that partition is mounted and, if it is, start the torrent client.
[22:06] <ElixirVitae> Can I prevent the client to access /media though?
[22:07] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: The client itself is much less programmable.  I think not.
[22:07] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: You'd have to manually change the preference in the gui.
[22:07] <ElixirVitae> That sounds reasonable and well over limit of my powers~
[22:07] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: I guess you could use rtorrent which is CLI based and has a config file.  You could, using the script, modify the config file before starting rtorrent
[22:08] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: Depends how much time you wanna spend automating this process
[22:08] <ElixirVitae> Or, better yet, I should get around to turning that old desktop into homeserver and connect HDD to it while I am at it.
[22:09] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: That would probably be much easier.
[22:09] <Frostbyte> When I try to do a query to mysql from an .sh script, I get permission denied? What am I missing? (Already have a fucntional user with full permissions on the database, so wtf?)
[22:09] <ElixirVitae> Woe is me as I have an overhaul of things that needs immediate attention...
[22:09] <deadmund> haha
[22:10] <ElixirVitae> Anywho, there doesn't seem an easily applicable solution, so it needs to be postponed.
[22:10] <webfox> Hello folks!
[22:10] <ElixirVitae> Many thanks.
[22:10] <ElixirVitae> Hi, webfox!
[22:10] <webfox> What is the channel name for Ubuntu Server support please ?
[22:10] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: Do you have permissions to run the sh file?
[22:10] <ElixirVitae> #ubuntu-server
[22:10] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : I'm currently testing it as root
[22:11] <_Marcus> webfox: generally you can ask here, but it is #ubuntu-server
[22:11] <webfox> oh, thank you ElixirVitae ! ;)
[22:11] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : it's sql that replies with permission denied I think
[22:11] <Nate_Rev> Unetbootin won't work, any help?
[22:11] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : mysql.sh: 27: mysql.sh: : Permission denied
[22:12] <ElixirVitae> Deadmund, are you at rizon as well?
[22:12] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: Try "chmod a+x mysql.sh" first
[22:12] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: No :(  I don't know what rizon is.
[22:12] <webfox> _Marcus, well, to be honest it is a Ubuntu Server/Mac OS X/Oracle VM VirtualBox issue I am having which I've already being at all those channels and I still looking for an answer.
[22:12] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : still getting permission denied
[22:12] <deadmund> _Marcus: Frostbyte mysql has it's own set of users and permissions on the databases.  That is likely the issue, not the actual permissions on the file that holds the script.
[22:12] <Frostbyte> true
[22:13] <Nate_Rev> Nobody has any USB booting advice..?
[22:13] <bekks> webfox: And which is host and which is guest?
[22:13] <Catbuntu> hi
[22:13] <ElixirVitae> Nate_Rev, there is multisystem
[22:13] <webfox> bekks, Mac OS X is the host and Ubuntu Server the client.
[22:13] <Frostbyte> deadmund : bullseye, if I execute the commands by myself, I have access to sql, but from the .sh I get permission denied
[22:14] <Nate_Rev> multisystem>
[22:14] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: Did you ask #mysql yet?
[22:14] <Nate_Rev> >
[22:14] <Nate_Rev> ?
[22:14] <bekks> Frostbyte: then show us the .sh please, in a pastebin
[22:14] <deadmund> Frostbyte: ask in #mysql ?
[22:14] <ElixirVitae> Nate_Rev, http://liveusb.info/
[22:14] <Frostbyte> will do so, sec
[22:14] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: Don't post the mysql password though
[22:15] <Frostbyte> _Marcus I know :p
[22:15] <Frostbyte> bekks , _Marcus : http://pastebin.com/NACvjK3V
[22:15] <Nate_Rev> I can't read French. :/
[22:16] <ElixirVitae> It is english as well, Nate_Rev
[22:16] <Frostbyte> bekks , _Marcus : it's line 14 that hits
[22:16] <ElixirVitae> Though unetbootin is better if you want to have only one liveCD within.
[22:16] <bekks> Frostbyte: I can see a syntax error in line 14
[22:17] <Nate_Rev> I have Unetbootin.
[22:17] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: There's no space after -p
[22:17] <Nate_Rev> I made one, but it freezes when I try to use it.
[22:17] <Frostbyte> bekks , _Marcus : that's cut from putty, nevermind it
[22:17] <zul_> hi all, could anyone help me in devise and twitter? I'm trying to authenticate in a rails test with a twitter account every time I get Twitter OAuth 401 Unauthorized, I follwed this railcasts: http://railscasts.com/episodes/235-omniauth-part-1?language=it&view=asciicast
[22:18] <Frostbyte> sec
[22:19] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: I forget how the ` thing works, do you have to put another `, or a '?
[22:19] <Frostbyte> I think I figured something
[22:19] <ElixirVitae> There is lilo, Nate_Rev: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[22:19] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : put another `
[22:19] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: Then the string never ends
[22:19] <ElixirVitae> But unetbootin should be enough, might want to try again...
[22:20] <Frostbyte> _Marchs : that's actually cut from the terminal
[22:20] <Frostbyte> _Marcus * : that's actually cut from the terminal
[22:20] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: We need to see the rest
[22:21] <Nate_Rev> I tried three times so far. Unetbootin seems to be a bust for me.
[22:22] <zykotick9> Nate_Rev: have to just tried to dd/cat the ubuntu iso to your USB?
[22:23] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : http://pastebin.com/VhNPFX9k
[22:23] <mr-rich> Any help migrating from Evolution 3.2.3 to Thunderbird?
[22:24] <paco1> hello masters!
[22:24] <Nate_Rev> How would I do that?
[22:25] <paco1> i would like to know if there is one way to download package (apt-get or aptitude), with dependencies, without install them....thanks!
[22:26] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : funny thing is that even if I ommit the -p , and insert the password manually, I still get permission denied
[22:26] <Frostbyte> gonna ask in #mysql
[22:26] <zykotick9> paco1: see "man apt-get" looks like there is a --download-only option...
[22:26] <emx> steam on ubuntu? the world of gaming is changing =) (sorry for the late cheer)
[22:27] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: Check database permissions. The user may not be able to access it.
[22:27] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : user has full permissions, I even tried with root user
[22:27] <dr_willis> emx:  now if only it had more games on it that were linux native ports... but its a start
[22:27] <zul_> who knows about ruby on rails? I have a question about devise and twtter authentication
[22:27] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: Well I have no idea
[22:29] <emx> dr_willis, sure, there is a long way to go. but if they manage to make it stable until halflife 3 is released then i'm happy =]
[22:29] <dr_willis> Nate_Rev:  the pendrivelinux site has alternative tools and guides for installing to usb also
[22:31] <Nate_Rev> ok, it says it doesnt have pae
[22:32] <elstud> to migrate from evolution to thunderbird go to maketecheasier
[22:32] <Nate_Rev> and thats why it wont install... I Have no idea what "pae" is
[22:32] <dr_willis> Nate_Rev:  must be  older hardware.
[22:32] <dr_willis> !pae
[22:32] <nonkn4mer> emx: halflife 3... you need to switch to #vaporware :P
[22:32] <dr_willis> Nate_Rev:  i think the lubuntu iso uses a nonpae kernel by default
[22:32] <paco1> zykotick9: ok, thanks! I read too fast the documentation
[22:32] <Nate_Rev> I only have a 1gb
[22:33] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-install-ubuntu-1210-on-non-pae.html
[22:33] <dr_willis> pae is a feature of the CPU
[22:33] <dr_willis> 12.10 ubuntu defaults to a pae kernel
[22:34] <emx> nonkn4mer, nono. halflife 3 was never announced (unlike duke nukem). valve knows what it's doing.
[22:34] <fission6> can someone help me in a PM that has solid security insight, i think one of my linode boxes has been hacked
[22:34] <Nate_Rev> so... am i just not able to install linux on this netbook?
[22:34] <Nate_Rev> I tried Wubi at one point before and that wouldnt work either.
[22:35] <hilo> Hi I chmod 777 .* my filesystem by accident and everything is 777 including my etc/sudoers file. I can't do anything at all that requires elevation. Is there a way to shutdown?
[22:35] <dr_willis> Nate_Rev:   you Can install it.. if you have a non-pae kernel..
[22:35] <dr_willis> Nate_Rev:  Lubuntu should install just fine
[22:36] <trism> well, there is no non-pae kernel in the repo 12.10+ so you're going to be building alot of kernels
[22:36] <goddard> how can I download a specific font for ubuntu that is on windows/
[22:36] <Nate_Rev> I am using Lubuntu right now, on a Netbook I just bought, so its not old hardware. and it wont install off a USB, and it wont install through wubi
[22:37] <dr_willis> doh   Further more, with 12.10, Xubuntu and Lubuntu no longer come with a non-PAE Linux Kernel, so by default, you can't install any Ubuntu 12.10 flavour on computers using CPUs that lack PAE support (such as Intel Pentium M).
[22:37] <nonkn4mer> Nate_Rev: external CD Rom time, it sounds like
[22:38] <Nate_Rev> So.. should I use an older disc image?
[22:38] <dr_willis> hmm.  I  put 12.10 on my netbook. :)
[22:38] <dr_willis> must depend on the exact cpu i guess in the netbook
[22:38] <dr_willis> Nate_Rev:  12.04 Lubuntu should work
[22:38] <hilo> Is there a way to safely power off an ubuntu install which the whole filesystem has been chmod 777 including the /etc/sudoers file?
[22:39] <darkbyte> Yeah, it does. If it does not support physical address extension, it isn't happening.
[22:39] <dr_willis> hilo:  go to console. press power button - i think kicks it into shutdown ..
[22:40] <dr_willis> but if everything has been chmoded in weird ways..   its hard to tell wht may or may not work
[22:41] <hilo> dr_willis, yeah I hit the "." before the * accidentally and it recursed my whole filesystem
[22:41] <hilo> dr_willis, powerbutton doesn't seem to do anything at all.
[22:41] <hds-> hi there. i have an ubuntu 8.04 and wonder if i could just update to 12.10 with a dist-upgrade or what i should maybe be aware of
[22:41] <dr_willis> hilo:  well if you press and HOLD the power button.. that will force the pc to power off. ;(
[22:41] <jrib> hilo: try ctrl-alt-del in a tty maybe?  If not, you may have raise elephants...
[22:42] <dr_willis> hds-:  that big of a upgrade may be problematic. I would be sure to have backups made.. and be prepared for a clean install.
[22:42] <Kaleo688> hi guys, please, i'm whit a problem: W: Erro GPG: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: As assinaturas a seguir não puderam ser verificadas devido à chave pública não estar disponível: NO_PUBKEY 7E492AAE24DF7CC4.
[22:42] <dr_willis> hds-:  not to mention it may take some time for it to upgrade. May be faster to clean install
[22:42] <Kaleo688> anybody can help me?
[22:42] <paco1> one other question: if i'm on 10.04 and i would like to download packages with dependendies for 12.04, is it possible?
[22:42] <hds-> dr_willis: if i updated gradually?
[22:42] <jrib> hilo: also do you have a dm like lightdm or gdm running by chance?
[22:42] <Monotoko> how long is 10.04 supported?
[22:42] <jrib> paco1: you should upgrade to 12.04 if you want to use 12.04 software, that's my advice
[22:42] <hds-> dr_willis: clean install is a little tricky as i have no monitor for this device
[22:43] <hilo> ctrl alt del at the logon screen worked
[22:43] <hilo> thanks all
[22:43] <dr_willis> hds-:  you go from one relase to the next. then once you hit a LTS release you an go LTS to LTS.
[22:43] <dr_willis> hds-:  4 years of upgrades may be trickier.
[22:43] <Monotoko> anyone?
[22:44] <dr_willis> !10.04
[22:44] <Monotoko> okay... my laptop has "issues" with 12.04
[22:44] <Kaleo688> anyone know how i get a public key to install packages?
[22:44] <Monotoko> as in the mouse freezes every 30 seconds and it locks up to 100% CPU usage
[22:44] <jrib> Kaleo688: packages from *where*?
[22:45] <hds-> dr_willis: so i upgrade from hardy to jaunty to lucid to maverick with gradual dist-upgrades and then jump to quantal?
[22:45] <jrib> hds-: skip jaunty skip maverick...
[22:45] <fission6> can someone wiht a soul please help me something is messed up obn my linux server, i need someone keen on security to help me or guide me
[22:45] <darkbyte> Monotoko, I had that problem, was the cord on my mouse...intermitent short.
[22:45] <dr_willis> hds-:  thats the core of it  upgrade to you get to a LTS release. then jump LTS to LTS.
[22:45] <dr_willis> Good luck. ;)
[22:46] <dr_willis> fission6:  better to just state the problem and what you did.
[22:46] <jrib> hds-: hardy (LTS) -> lucid (LTS) -> quantal (LTS)
[22:46] <Monotoko> darkbyte, it isn't the cord... it does it with the mousepad... external mice... everything, my keyboard also seizes
[22:46] <hds-> dr_willis: thx
[22:46] <Monotoko> it just rockets to 100%
[22:46] <hilo> jrib, I don't think so. It's a fairly basic server install
[22:46] <jrib> hilo: k.  Looks like you've managed to reboot anyway
[22:47] <Kaleo688> A support driver video to amd - ati.
[22:47] <hilo> On to live usb to back up configs and then reformat
[22:47] <hilo> Is there a way to pull a driver to make the reinstall easier?
[22:47] <jrib> hilo: make sure you fix the permissions on the files backup of course
[22:48] <hilo> The server has an LSI 9750-8i HDD RAID controller and I can't remember all the details of the driver other than compiling it was a pain
[22:48] <fission6> dr_willis: getting linode alerts that my box has been compromised and all the ticket says after that is HoneyPotTransport
[22:48] <fission6> i am looking for guidance of any sort dr_willis
[22:48] <goddard> can some one tell me how to install a font?
[22:48] <goddard> ttf file
[22:49] <jrib> !font | goddard
[22:49] <dr_willis> goddard:  i copy mine to my users .fonts directory ;)
[22:49] <qwd> I have a lot of noise (sound) when watching videos on VLC but not on Totem. I tried deleting the vlc folder in ~/.config but that didn't solve it. Any ideas?
[22:49] <zhiattags> can anyone here teach me how to run .exe files on my ubuntu 12.04?
[22:49] <Kaleo688> error in the launchpad key - NO_PUBKEY 7E492AAE24DF7CC4 - ??
[22:49] <emx> is it possible to encrypt the home folder?
[22:49] <jrib> !wine | zhiattags
[22:49] <gordonjcp> zhiattags: .exe files are for DOS, not Linux
[22:49] <MontyMoose> Anyone free to help me with avconv? Whatever format I try and convert to, I just get "Default encoder for format %FORMAT% is probably disabled. Please choose an encoder manually."
[22:49] <goddard> dr_willis: ok thanks
[22:49] <dr_willis> zhiattags:  wine /path/to/whatever.exe  is  the old skool way
[22:50] <hilo> jrib, could you provide a little guidance? I have no idea where to even start when it comes to pulling drivers from one system and putting them on another
[22:50] <zhiattags> jrib: can we convert that to linux executable?
[22:50] <jrib> zhiattags: but yes you should try to use native apps whenever possible.  Your life will be much happier
[22:50] <MontyMoose> even though tif I do -codecs I get MP3 in the list
[22:50] <jrib> zhiattags: I do not understand what your last question is asking.
[22:50] <jrib> hilo: you shouldn't have to worry about any drivers
[22:50] <fission6> anyone have a recommendation for a more security focused channel
[22:50] <dr_willis> you dont jus5t 'convert' executables from one OS to another. ;)
[22:50] <jrib> hilo: what drivers are you thinking about?
[22:50] <dr_willis> fission6:  #ubuntu-server perhaps
[22:50] <jrib> fission6: why don't you ask linode support for some guidance?  They even have a channel (on oftc I think)
[22:51] <alien2050> zhiattags: you cannot, you have to recompile from the source code and adjust for linux code
[22:51] <zhiattags> dr_willis: i will try that, thanks
[22:51] <hilo> jrib, LSI 9750-8i
[22:51] <dr_willis> im not even suer what 'linode' is. ;)
[22:51] <jrib> dr_willis: vps provider
[22:51] <zhiattags> jrib: will try dr_willis suggestion
[22:51] <jrib> hilo: I'm not familiar with that
[22:52] <Kaleo688> jrib, can you help me? is that key: NO_PUBKEY 7E492AAE24DF7CC4 - launchpad
[22:52] <student> aaaaa
[22:52] <jrib> Kaleo688: you have to answer my question for me to help you: where are you installing this software from?  A ppa perhaps?
[22:52] <hilo>  jrib it's a hard drive controller
[22:52] <jrib> hilo: I understand, but I don't know what you need to do.  Did you have to do something special before, at install time?
[22:53] <student> do u know how to
[22:53] <student> boot wondows xp
[22:53] <student> ?
[22:53] <Kaleo688> yes - from the atualzation system of ubuntu - in the reload happened this!
[22:53] <jrib> Kaleo688: what ppa?
[22:53] <student> this ubuntu
[22:54] <student> is shit
[22:54] <k1l> student: where is this a ubuntu support issue?
[22:54] <k1l> !language | student
[22:54] <student> ok
[22:54] <student> people do u want to help me
[22:54] <student> ?
[22:55] <k1l> !ask | student
[22:55] <jrib> student: ask your detailed question ON ONE LINE, only then can we help you
[22:55] <student> how to boot windows xp on ubunu
[22:55] <student> ?
[22:55] <student> ubuntu
[22:55] <hilo> jrib, no but after installing, it couldn't mount anything at first. I had to compile and install the driver
[22:55] <alien2050> student: virtualbox
[22:55] <hilo> jrib, it took days on the phone with LSI support
[22:56] <k1l> student: describe what you mean. its not getting clear what you want
[22:56] <student> i dont speak well english because i am from serbia
[22:57] <darkbyte> student, check it out. Download virtualbox from ubuntu repos.
[22:57] <Kaleo688> LP-PPA-oibaf-graphics-drivers (noveau display - X.OrgX server)
[22:57] <darkbyte> Then make a new virtual image for you win box.
[22:57] <darkbyte> Then boot it up and enjoy.
[22:57] <Kaleo688> i cant install it.
[22:57] <student> ok thx
[22:57] <jrib> hilo: sorry, I don't know enough to help you
[22:57] <darkbyte> If you have any questions please pm me.
[22:57] <darkbyte> Or ask in the room.
[22:58] <hilo> jrib, thanks for the effort
[22:58] <student> and how to enter a bios on ubuntu
[22:58] <darkbyte> Elaborate on "enter a bios"
[22:58] <jrib> Kaleo688: https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers has instructions on adding the key for the ppa.
[22:58] <hilo> Does anyone have any experience installing the drivers for a 3ware/LSI RAID controller?
[22:58] <k1l> student: that is no ubuntu support issue. that is you hardware issue
[22:58] <alien2050> student: bios doesn't have anything to do with operating system, it is started before the OS comes into play
[22:58] <elstud> student go to spatry s cuo=p of linux explains thoroughly
[22:58] <k1l> student: look into the manual
[22:58] <darkbyte> Your bios is in your machine, not ubuntu. You access it from hitting a button at first boot.
[22:58] <Kaleo688> there i will can?
[22:59] <student> i know
[22:59] <student> but i press del
[22:59] <jrib> Kaleo688: yes, read the "adding this ppa to your system" section on the ppa's site
[22:59] <k1l> student: ##hardware
[22:59] <Kaleo688> thank you jrib!
[22:59] <darkbyte> Pm me student
[22:59] <darkbyte> Im not a dick.
[22:59] <k1l> student: that is no ubuntu issue if you want to access bios or install windows
[23:00] <student> what is pm
[23:00] <alien2050> student: virtualbox sorta has a "bios" in the sense that it starts a really quick menu with options
[23:00] <angelpossum> dick
[23:00] <darkbyte> Private message.
[23:00] <student> ok
[23:00] <k1l> alien2050: he doestn want to install vb
[23:00] <k1l> doenst serbia got a loco team with own channel?
[23:00] <student> i dont know
[23:00] <alien2050> k1l: are u sure about that?
[23:00] <student> kil
[23:01] <student> yes
[23:01] <k1l> alien2050: read what he said earlier
[23:01] <alien2050> student: what precisely are u trying to achieve?
[23:01] <hds-> how do i dist-upgrade from shell? change all sources from one version to the next in the sources.list and then apt-get update/upgrade?
[23:01] <Kaleo688> i have an AMD A8 VISIO - this is the only driver to optimize my process?
[23:01] <k1l> hds-: no
[23:01] <student> my new windows ubuntu
[23:01] <jrib> !upgrade | hds-
[23:01] <k1l> hds-: use do-release-upgrade
[23:01] <darkbyte> Oh he wants ubuntu gone.
[23:01] <optimusprimem> test
[23:02] <k1l> student: join channel ##hardware for your problem
[23:02] <hds-> k1l:that link only tells me how to do it with a gui app. but do-relase-upgrade sounds good
[23:02] <hilo> How do I mound an LVM partition in a Live environment to recover data
[23:02] <darkbyte> They will never answer his questions in #hardware lol
[23:02] <student> where is that
[23:02] <alien2050> i see
[23:02] <wN> hilo: mount /dev/volgroup/logvol /mountpoint
[23:02] <Kaleo688> jrib?
[23:02] <peugi> i am thinking about getting a SSD, did anyone noticed getting their desktop faster with one?
[23:02] <nonkn4mer> hds-: apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:03] <wN> hilo: you may need to run pvscan, vgscan, lvscan, vgchange -ay
[23:03] <jrib> Kaleo688: yes?
[23:03] <hds-> nonkn4mer: k1l just told me not to do that
[23:03] <alien2050> peugi: it boots really fast, other than that... depends on which one you get
[23:03] <zykotick9> peugi: lol - best upgrade i've ever seen ;)
[23:03] <k1l> hds-: why?
[23:03] <jrib> hds-, nonkn4mer: apt-get dist-upgrade is incorrect
[23:03] <hilo> wN, I don't understand LVM at all or what it is. Can you elaborate?
[23:03] <peugi> I am thinking getting the OCZ one for $130
[23:03] <Kaleo688> i have an AMD A8 VISION 64BIT, is that the only driver to optimize?
[23:03] <k1l> nonkn4mer: no. he wants a release upgrade
[23:03] <wN> hilo: you want me to teach you about lvm, or about those commands?
[23:03] <MontyMoose> is mp3 lame not allowed anymore or something… it used to be easier than this to encode mp3s I'm sure!
[23:03] <nonkn4mer> jrib: please elaborate
[23:04] <student> does anuone speak serbian
[23:04] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade | nonkn4mer
[23:04] <k1l> hds-: if you want a release-upgrade like from 12.04 to 12.10 its do-release-upgrade
[23:04] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : I think I found a workaround
[23:04] <hilo> wN, Just the barebones to get a specific partition mounted
[23:04] <student> speak serbian ??
[23:04] <hilo> wN, once I backup some stuff I will be reformatting and not using LVM
[23:04] <nonkn4mer> zykotick9: ahh.  makes sense
[23:04] <zykotick9> nonkn4mer: if you manually changed sources.list, dist-upgrade would work (but that's not the Ubuntu way of doing things)
[23:05] <MontyMoose> so irritating… my new server is perfect apart from the ability to encode mp3s (needed for the web server HTML5 audio).  Very annoying.
[23:05] <roby87> Hello everyone
[23:05] <k1l> nonkn4mer: dist-upgrade is not a upgrade to the new release version
[23:05] <hds-> k1l: i actuallly have 8.04 but yeah. seemed to me that do-release-upgrade was a gui tool
[23:05] <wN> hilo: you need to scan the lvm stack. run # pvscan; vgscan; lvscan; vgchange -ay
[23:05] <wN> hilo: that will activate the stack
[23:05] <wN> hilo: then you can mount with # mount /dev/volgroupname/logvolname /mountpoint
[23:05] <alien2050> MontyMoose: Did you try lame? works like a charm
[23:05] <student> darbyte
[23:05] <MontyMoose> I'm trying to use lame through avconv,  but I can't get it to work at all
[23:05] <student> ?
[23:06] <student> darkbyte
[23:06] <student> ?
[23:06] <Kaleo688> jrib, i have an AMD A8 VISION 64 BIT, is that the one drive to supported?
[23:06] <hilo> wN, installing lvm2 package
[23:06] <jrib> Kaleo688: I don't know
[23:06] <MontyMoose> I wanted to use ffmpeg, but now it tells me they've given up on it - so I installed avconv like it said
[23:06] <alien2050> not sure about avconv...
[23:06] <Kaleo688> anyone know?
[23:06] <k1l> student: last call: its not a ubuntu support issue if you want to install windows on a machine. so please join the channel ##hardware
[23:06] <wN> hilo: i gotta bounce. jump into #lvm ify ou need mroe lvm help
[23:06] <nonkn4mer> zykotick9: so would you dist-upgrade to make sure you have the latest dependancies, etc, before doing a do-release?  or waste of time?
[23:06] <Kaleo688> common guys!!!
[23:07] <MontyMoose> well I have no wish to use avconv - ffmpeg was working fine on my old server, but now 12.4 LTS refuses to play ball
[23:07] <hilo> wN, thanks
[23:07] <k1l> hds-: update-manager is the gui tool for that
[23:07] <zykotick9> nonkn4mer: doubt it would make much difference, but sure ;)
[23:07] <MontyMoose> I worry I've broken it all now :-s
[23:07] <guilhermekfe> my grub screen is all black, does anybody knows that?
[23:07] <student> i was join
[23:07] <alien2050> guilhermekfe: Could be many reasons...
[23:07] <k1l> nonkn4mer: dist-upgrade comes in when there is a new kernel, for example
[23:07] <guilhermekfe> alien2050: I've just installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my box
[23:07] <student> heyy
[23:08] <student> and
[23:08] <alien2050> guilhermekfe: Try to boot from live cd and redo a clean grub-install, should work
[23:08] <nonkn4mer> zykotick9: i'm pretty anal about autoremove/autoclean so there's no unnecessary packages floating around...  will probably add that to my OCD update procedures
[23:08] <k1l> student: ask in that channel
[23:08] <MontyMoose> Anyone want to suggest what I may have missed in installing lame? Ubuntu 12.04.1 LT
[23:08] <roby87> WHOIS r0by87
[23:08] <emx> what is the easiest way to synchronise two directories on different physical drives?
[23:08] <guilhermekfe> alien2050: I ran boot-repair
[23:08] <deadmund> roby87: You forgot the slash
[23:08] <deadmund> emx: rsync
[23:08] <alien2050> MontyMoose: what is your input file type, and what is the output needed
[23:08] <zykotick9> emx: rsync is one option, unison is another
[23:09] <roby87> thanks, sorry, i'm newbie!! :D
[23:09] <mr-rich> elstud: I tried going out to that site. It doesn't cover evolution 3.2.x which stores e-mail in maildir format ...
[23:09] <k1l> emx: unison
[23:09] <MontyMoose> I need to be able to make audio files for HTML5 audio, so say convert WMA into MP3 and OGG
[23:09] <k1l> emx: which is 2 way rsync actually
[23:09] <alien2050> guilhermekfe: you should try grub-install
[23:09]  * angelpossum says to roby87
[23:09] <angelpossum> how new
[23:09] <nonkn4mer> k1l: thanks for the info, btw
[23:09] <emx> deadmund, zykotick9, k1l: do they include all files (hidden files, special files..)?
[23:10] <deadmund> emx: rysnc has flags to include them
[23:10] <MontyMoose> in the good old days i used to run ffmpeg -i OLDFILE -f mp3 NEWFILE
[23:10] <MontyMoose> and it worked perfectly
[23:10] <guilhermekfe> alien2050: Oh ok, thank you, gonna try it =)
[23:10] <MontyMoose> not so on the new server
[23:11] <alien2050> guilhermekfe: np, just boot a live cd, mount your linus partition to let's say /1 then do a grub-install --root-directory=/1 /dev/sdX
[23:12] <MontyMoose> when I do -codecs on ffmpeg I get: D.A.L. mp3                  MP3 (MPEG audio layer 3) (decoders: mp3 mp3float )
[23:12] <alien2050> MontyMoose: and what changed, I remember using ffmpeg also some time ago...
[23:12] <alien2050> MontyMoose: Should be pretty solid
[23:12] <MontyMoose> I upgraded to a new web server from 8 to 12 I think
[23:12] <Jaredcheeda> can I get some super easy quick assistance :D
[23:12] <MontyMoose> so I got the mp3 codec and installed ffmpeg and it didn't work
[23:12] <MontyMoose> said the codec didn't exist.
[23:13] <alien2050> MontyMoose: which app is saying "codec doesn't exist"?
[23:13] <k1l> Jaredcheeda: ask away
[23:13] <MontyMoose> well sorry - not that it doesn't exist - it does exist, but it says it will only decode not encode
[23:13] <webfox> Could someone help me correct config a keyboard please ?
[23:13] <Jaredcheeda> just need help installing 2 things on a VM of ubuntu
[23:13] <MontyMoose> I do avvonv -codecs to see the installed codecs
[23:14] <alien2050> I dunno with avconv, standard ffmpeg or lame doesn't work ?
[23:14] <k1l> Jaredcheeda: i still dont know how i could help you. just ask your question
[23:14] <MontyMoose> doesn't seem so
[23:14] <zykotick9> k1l: is your crystal-ball not working for Jaredcheeda ;)
[23:14] <Jaredcheeda> they're not the easy double-click to install types. they're the "lets load up terminal" types
[23:14] <alien2050> lame --cbr -b 320 -V2 file.wma   doesn't work ?
[23:14] <midolaru> Maybe u need som propriety codecs
[23:15] <k1l> zykotick9: no, i broke it yesterday :(
[23:15] <somsip> MontyMoose: try libmp3lame not mp3
[23:15] <MontyMoose> with what ffmpeg or avconv?
[23:15] <somsip> MontyMoose: ffmpeg
[23:15] <Jaredcheeda> anyone willing to remote in to show me how it's done
[23:15] <MontyMoose> which isn't currently installed.  I have mounted my root to "/mnt/root"
[23:16] <k1l> !ask | Jaredcheeda
[23:16] <somsip> MontyMoose: ffmpeg -formats migth help you too
[23:16] <MontyMoose> ok
[23:16] <MontyMoose> shall I reinstall ffmpeg again then…
[23:16] <MontyMoose> and if so is it better to use apt-get or compile it myself?
[23:16] <student> where is my computer on windows ubuntu
[23:16] <student> ?
[23:16] <gordonjcp> student: wherever you left it...
[23:17] <somsip> MontyMoose: I use to for video conversion, and it works okay for me. apt-get is the recommended approach
[23:17] <MontyMoose> ok
[23:17] <student> ok
[23:17] <alien2050> sudo apt-get autoremove --purge ffmpeg && sudo apt-get install --reinstall ffmpeg
[23:17] <student> where is start on windows ubuntu
[23:17] <k1l> student: stop that please
[23:17] <MontyMoose> done
[23:17] <alien2050> MontyMoose:  its what I would do.... check the dependencies, maybe something's screwed up....
[23:17] <student> please tell me i dont know
[23:17] <gordonjcp> student: start what?
[23:18] <student> how to explaine
[23:18] <MontyMoose> right oh - I'm now looking through the formats..
[23:18] <MontyMoose> I assume lame should be there?
[23:18] <alien2050> apt-cache search lame | grep enc
[23:19] <gordonjcp> student: you mean for starting programs?  Hit the "flag" key between CTRL and ALT and start typing the name of what you want
[23:19] <alien2050> in 11.10 it is just "lame"
[23:19] <alien2050> in 12.04 unless they removed it, should be the same
[23:20] <alien2050> student: There is no such thing as Windows Ubuntu, it's Windows or Ubuntu, not both...
[23:20] <MontyMoose> ok well there's no mention of lame on the formats list - but there is "mp3             MPEG audio layer 3"
[23:20] <MontyMoose> let me try and convert a wav and see what happens...
[23:20] <zykotick9> alien2050: well, there is wubi ;)
[23:21] <drRocktopus> anyone available for a few quick questions: ubuntu on a lenovo ideaCentre?
[23:21] <alien2050> :)
[23:21] <gordonjcp> !ask | drRocktopus
[23:21] <alien2050> MontyMoose: Try "sudo apt-get install lame" what happens?
[23:22] <drRocktopus> ok thanks :)
[23:22] <drRocktopus> I am getting a 1962 error code : no bootable system
[23:22] <MontyMoose> ok done that - shall I check the formats list again?
[23:22] <MontyMoose> I'll try the following: ffmpeg -i test.wav -f mp3 test.mp3
[23:22] <Guest77636> ciao
[23:22] <Guest77636> list
[23:22] <DarkPT> www.linuxportugal.comunidades.net
[23:23] <alien2050> MontyMoose:  maybe? not sure I understand what you mean, you'll be bypassing avconv from now on.... ;)
[23:23] <drRocktopus> looking to figure out where I am going wrong in my installation
[23:23] <webfox> Could someone help me to set a keyboard and internet please ?
[23:23] <MontyMoose> yeah - never wanted to use it anyway… all my PHP scripts use FFMPEG and I don't want to change them. I only went down the avconv route, cos I couldn't get ffmpeg to work and it told me to!
[23:23] <bekks> webfox: How about asking in #ubuntu ?
[23:23] <alien2050> webfox: details would be nice
[23:23] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: what version of ubuntu are you trying to install?  are you installing from CD or USB stick?
[23:23] <bekks> webfox: ;)
[23:24] <zykotick9> MontyMoose: just an fyi, but ogg will give higher audio quality with smaller size then MP3...
[23:24] <bekks> webfox needs to have a DNS server configured on his 12.04 server, and his keyboard does not produce the / key
[23:24] <MontyMoose> I need both to be honest - it needs to be HTML5 audio you see, and i.e. won't support ogg
[23:24] <drRocktopus> I am getting a 1962 error code : no bootable system --  looking to figure out where I am going wrong in my installation  -- using desktop version 12 -- installing from a CD -- I have tried the efi fixes listed on the ubuntu support site but can't get it to see the OD
[23:24] <drRocktopus> OS
[23:24] <webfox> alien2050, I am facing a mistaken keyboard on a Ubuntu Server Vm I brought from Ubuntu to Mac.
[23:25] <MontyMoose> I would love to tell all my customers that IE is not supported, but I don't think I can sadly!
[23:25] <maria_> hla
[23:25] <alien2050> MontyMoose: Should be straightforward with ffmpeg.... why doesn't it work from php ?
[23:25] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: so it boots off the CD, and initiates the installation setup?
[23:25] <maria_> alguien de españa
[23:25] <MontyMoose> it does now -
[23:25] <midolaru> U sure u can't play ogg through html5???
[23:25] <MontyMoose> yes you can - but IE doesn't support it
[23:25] <a5m0> i have one computer that's on 3.7.0-4 and one that's on 3.5.0-19 and they both claim they're up to date, any  ideas what's up?
[23:25] <MontyMoose> if you only include ogg, IE won't play
[23:26] <webfox> midolaru, depend on the browser
[23:26] <MontyMoose> with video it's even worse, you need three copies of every file for it to be truly cross-browser
[23:26] <alien2050> ha!
[23:26] <MontyMoose> and that's assuming the IE people are at least on version 9
[23:26] <drRocktopus> yes... it boots fine from the CD
[23:26] <MontyMoose> which most of them aren't!
[23:26] <webfox> alien2050, did you get it?
[23:26] <midolaru> ....standards lol
[23:27] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: then start with the basics.  no USB devices or expansion cards installed?
[23:27] <alien2050> webfox: not really, I still don't understand what you're asking......
[23:27] <MontyMoose> the web was much better when it was just text… *mumble mumble* why does everyone want video.
[23:27] <drRocktopus> nope... just the HD and the DVD drive
[23:27] <SonikkuAmerica> MontyMoose: who knows?
[23:27] <alien2050> MontyMoose: Not only video, interactivity!!! :)
[23:27] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: have you successfully installed any linux build on that machine?
[23:27] <alien2050> VR and augmented are right around the corner
[23:27] <drRocktopus> no... i'm pretty sure its a problem in the bootloader
[23:27] <MontyMoose> I know … the buggers. That's why my web server has have 6 CPUs and 8GB of memory!
[23:28] <webfox> alien2050, I have moved a virtual machine from a Ubuntu host to a Mac host and the keyboard layout is not working.
[23:28] <drRocktopus> the installer works fine
[23:28] <alien2050> webfox: VM -> what OS
[23:28] <alien2050> ?
[23:29] <webfox> alien2050, VM -> Mac OS, but I am interested in to switch the keyboard from the Client with is Ubuntu Server.
[23:29] <drRocktopus> is there a grub fixing tool?
[23:29] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: yes, but you're saying it's not booting at all?
[23:30] <drRocktopus> true... I can only boot off the CD and not of the HDD
[23:30] <webfox> alien2050, did you get it now?
[23:30] <alien2050> webfox: so let me get this straight, you moved a MacOS guest vm to a Mac OS host which was previously on a ubuntu host... ?
[23:30] <HondUSA> Greetings, Whats up everybody?
[23:30] <webfox> alien2050, no
[23:31] <alien2050> keyboard is working but not the layout right
[23:31] <alien2050> ?
[23:31] <webfox> alien2050, I moved a Ubuntu Server client from a Ubuntu Client host to a Mac OS X host.
[23:31] <ShawnRisk> My internet doesn't seem to be connecting on Ubuntu but is connecting on my mac, any ways I can fix this?
[23:31] <alien2050> try "setxkbmap us" just for kicks on the VM
[23:31] <alien2050> is the layout back to normal?
[23:32] <webfox> alien2050, yes, the keyboard is with wrong layout. I guess. I can't access certain keys.
[23:32] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: I wouldd recommend trying to install a different build.  maybe 32 bit
[23:32] <guilhermekfe> alien2050: Hey mate, I used grub-install to get the black screen fixed, but didn't work =/
[23:32] <drRocktopus> that was my next plan... the machine is 64bit for sure... but I will be trying the 32 next
[23:32] <alien2050> guilhermekfe:  what command did you type
[23:32] <drRocktopus> why would the 64 not work? just not supported maybe?
[23:32] <guilhermekfe> alien2050:  sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[23:32] <arossDOTme> I am helping a friend. I have given him a flash drive, full install style with adjustments so it does not wear out the flash so quickly. He has mucked up networking. I am a networking newbie. How do I completely reset everything network related? I am looking the the doc on the wiki
[23:33] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: that's 1 of a dozen different possibilities
[23:33] <alien2050> guilhermekfe: you didn't get my last message before disconnect, did you ?
[23:33] <webfox> alien2050, what?
[23:33] <drRocktopus> should the installer be able to partition the drive for my machine?
[23:33] <drRocktopus> I mean... properly
[23:33] <guilhermekfe> alien2050: I think I didn't
[23:33] <nonkn4mer> yes.  when it asks what volume you want to install on
[23:33] <webfox> alien2050, are you druged?
[23:33] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: you can reformat a drive/partition from the install CD
[23:33] <alien2050> webfox: rotfl, why would I be
[23:34] <webfox> Could someone help me to fix a keyboard layout here pleeese?
[23:34] <drRocktopus> I have done that several times... but I was reading some info on issues with uefi on newer machines
[23:34] <webfox> alien2050, because you are nothing saying nothing with makes sense man...
[23:34] <HondUSA> Question: Is it possible to create an account for this room?
[23:34] <webfox> this auto-complete keyboard fuck is irritating me!
[23:34] <Jordan_U> !language | webfox
[23:34] <IdleOne> !language | webfox
[23:34] <alien2050> webfox: dude seriously....
[23:35] <webfox> Jesus, how difficult is to het some help here!
[23:35] <arossDOTme> webfox: whats the prompem. and carm down
[23:35] <arossDOTme> webfox: be pathent
[23:35] <alien2050> webfox: did you try the command I sent?
[23:35] <nonkn4mer> !patience | webfox
[23:35] <Jordan_U> guilhermekfe: Were you running grub-install from a LiveCD/USB? Did it give any error message?
[23:35] <webfox> alien2050, what command?
[23:35] <webfox> alien2050, what is that for?
[23:35] <guilhermekfe> Jordan_U: No, No.
[23:36] <webfox> alien2050, give some kicks on the vm? What is it supposed to mean?
[23:36] <alien2050> guilhermekfe: last command I said to do was, mount your linux partition to let's say /1, then do a grub-install --root-directory=/1 /dev/sdX
[23:36] <alien2050> guilhermekfe: where X is your drive id (if you've got only one hard disk, most likely /dev/sda)
[23:36] <gordonjcp> !ask | webfox
[23:36] <webfox> arossDOTme, I need to set a new layout to my keyboard.
[23:37] <guilhermekfe> alien2050: from the live cd?
[23:37] <arossDOTme> webfox: I was deciding to help you or to do dishwasher. we are not you slaves.
[23:37] <drRocktopus> thank you for your help nonkn4mer!  I will test out the 32 and let it build the drive how it wants :)
[23:37] <alien2050> webfox: sigh.... ok type , at the terminal prompt the following: setxkbmap us
[23:37] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: sounds good
[23:37] <webfox> arossDOTme, then decide fast because I cannot wait for your fuckinf dish washing !
[23:38] <nonkn4mer> can we get a boot now?
[23:38] <alien2050> it will reset your keyboard to US default, is it still mixed up (the keys on the keyboard) ?
[23:38] <nonkn4mer> er, kick rather
[23:38] <webfox> alien2050, how do check which keyboard is it running?
[23:38] <eastr> my keyboard preference keeps changing once in a while why might that be?
[23:39] <arossDOTme> webfox: i was just typing an anwser but I give up stuff you. dam numtly
[23:39] <alien2050> webfox: doesn't matter, it'll reset it if you're able to run the cmd
[23:39] <webfox> alien2050, perhaps I don't need to reset it.
[23:40] <webfox> alien2050, I would like to give it a solid step not some kicks on the air.
[23:40] <gordonjcp> !attitude | webfox
[23:40] <gordonjcp> webfox: I was going to suggest some stuff but frankly you're being a bit of a dick
[23:41] <webfox> How do I check the keyboard my machine is currently using ?
[23:41] <IdleOne> gordonjcp: please keep it family friendly
[23:41] <gordonjcp> webfox: do you mean the keyboard layout?
[23:41] <alien2050> webfox: you should make an effort here
[23:41] <webfox> gordonjcp, yes
[23:41] <gordonjcp> IdleOne: oh come on, pack it in with the "family friendly" nonsense - and tell me just *what* you objected to there
[23:41] <gordonjcp> webfox: right
[23:42] <alien2050> webfox: your problem need to be explained in more details.......
[23:42] <arossDOTme> ...now How to reset networking? ie start from fresh.
[23:42] <webfox> gordonjcp, I have a machine with I installed Ubuntu server at this host Mac OS just to have the default keyboard.
[23:43] <EntropyWorks> is apt-mirror the best way to create a local repository still?
[23:43] <alien2050> arossDOTme: depends if you're using dhcp or static
[23:43] <arossDOTme> dhcp
[23:43] <alien2050> EntropyWorks: yep, I think so
[23:44] <EntropyWorks> alien2050: thx
[23:44] <zykotick9> EntropyWorks: i've never used apt-mirror, but if you don't want to add additional packages - i find apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng easy to implement/use.
[23:45] <ShawnRisk> My wireless internet doesn't seem to be connecting on Ubuntu but is connecting on my mac, any ways I can fix this?
[23:45] <nonkn4mer> ShawnRisk: is ubuntu a vm on the mac?  or its own system?
[23:45] <alien2050> arossDOTme:  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[23:45] <webfox> How do I check with keyboard layout my system is currently using please ?
[23:45] <webfox> *which
[23:45] <arossDOTme> alien2050: I think it needs way more than that
[23:46] <alien2050> arossDOTme: depends what you're trying to do
[23:46] <arossDOTme> alien2050: a friend mucked it up. eg installed wicd
[23:46] <alien2050> ah! the infamous wicd
[23:46] <arossDOTme> alien2050: clean it up and start fresh
[23:46] <EntropyWorks> zykotick9: i have a requirement to only have machines using our own repositories.   so can't really use apt-cacher-ng
[23:46] <arossDOTme> Don't know completly what he did
[23:46] <arossDOTme> alien2050:
[23:47] <ShawnRisk> nonkn4mer: the ubuntu system is its own laptop.
[23:47] <webfox> How do I check which keyboard layout my system is currently using please ?
[23:47] <zykotick9> EntropyWorks: i see.  there is a offline mode in one, or both, of tehm?
[23:47] <nonkn4mer> ShawnRisk: this is going to sound dumb, but when I first installed on a dell latitude (coming from a mac background) I forgot that there is a switch on the side to turn on the wifi card.  have you checked for such a switch on your machine?
[23:47] <drRocktopus> nonk4mer: Boots in 32bit :)
[23:47] <alien2050> sudo apt-get autoremove --purge PROG && sudo apt-get install --reinstall PROG would be a good place to start (PROG = network-manager) then only the first part, remove wicd
[23:47] <drRocktopus> mamazing!
[23:47] <alien2050> afk
[23:47] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: good to hear :)
[23:48] <popito> Hi all
[23:48] <drRocktopus> now to set everything up.... gonna be a long night heh
[23:48] <drRocktopus> thanks again
[23:48] <arossDOTme> alien2050: and I deleted some conf files.
[23:48] <EntropyWorks> zykotick9: ok I'll checking that out. if I can get away with the offline mode
[23:48] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: no problem, sir
[23:48] <arossDOTme> alien2050: ok reinstall net man
[23:49] <nonkn4mer> you might want to check for a bios update on that machine.  if it really is 64 bit capable... might also just need another disto.  maybe something like centOS
[23:49] <juan_> :)
[23:50] <popito> :)
[23:50] <ShawnRisk> nonkn4mer: where is that key, I don't see one, but I know wireless is on because it shows the connections and shows my connection and the wireless is searching.
[23:51] <eidelmaim> hi people
[23:52] <emx> unwrapping the passphrase gives me an error (-5). why?
[23:52] <nonkn4mer> ShawnRisk: depending on the hardware, it may only be able to see 802.11b/g networks.  If you're broadcasting 802.11n it won't see it
[23:52] <popito> Hi eidelmain
[23:52] <ShawnRisk> nonkn4mer: I understand but this was working before, and I might need to restart to get this working which is odd.
[23:52] <webfox> The thong here is the keyboard is not working to try anything which involves slashes for example.
[23:52] <zykotick9> nonkn4mer: i certainly don't know, but i'd guess centos does not support uefi.  cent/rhel uses older, well tested, packages.
[23:52] <webfox> *thing
[23:52] <guikfe> alien2050: me again
[23:53] <guikfe> alien2050: Now I`m getting some errors
[23:53] <guikfe> alien2050: with grub-install
[23:53] <Phosphate>   /join #amahi
[23:54] <guikfe> alien2050: http://pastebin.com/fHHnucAY
[23:54] <nonkn4mer> zykotick9: good point.  Not know what distro he's trying to install, or the validity of the media it's burned on, etc, just suggested a different distro.  For uefi there's always fedora which i think supports it
[23:54] <eidelmaim> ok so i have a question.... i am leaving microfail and moving to ubuntu and i cant seem to get the installer to function correctly... im trying to install off a usb drive... now most likley this is my error for not setting up the usb drive correctly but i just wanna ask.... i have the iso saved on the usb drive... i would have to make the drive bootable first though correct ?
[23:54] <nonkn4mer> zykotick9: just sucks to be forced into using 32 bit if the processor supports 64, ya know?
[23:55] <zykotick9> nonkn4mer: agreed.  uefi = fail ;)
[23:55] <webfox> Could someone help me please ?
[23:55] <RickZilla> webfox: Just ask a question
[23:56] <webfox> RickZilla, how do I verify which keyboard it it currently being used at my machine?
[23:57] <RickZilla> Start typing and see if something shows up on the screen? I'm not real sure what you're asking.
[23:57] <aetcore> hey how do i use a PPA as a backport? for example im on 12.10 and i want to use this guys repo https://launchpad.net/~s-lagui/+archive/ppa but he doesnt support my release (im not sure what the correct terminology is for this)
[23:58] <aetcore> can i tell apt that it has to use older release material?
[23:58] <zykotick9> aetcore: backports are the other direction - new packages on old releases.  i doubt you can do what you want...
[23:58] <webfox> Could someone help me please ?
[23:58] <ztgu> hey
[23:59] <eidelmaim> what is the better freeware to create a ubuntu USB bootable drive ?
[23:59] <popito> hey
[23:59] <aetcore> zykotick9: ok thanks, i will compile from source
[23:59] <ztgu> can someone help me choosing a new laptop for linux
[23:59] <popito> you speak french ?
[23:59] <ztgu> I was thinking about a laptop with Nvidia card so my brother can game
[23:59] <ztgu> http://www.howtogeek.com/124685/how-to-make-nvidias-optimus-work-on-linux/
[23:59] <zykotick9> aetcore: are you familiar with checkinstall?  if not, see "/msg ubottu checkinstall" for details
[23:59] <ztgu> But I have heard of someone with problems with this thing


[02:50] <pleia2> 4 of us here at the ubuntu hour
[02:51] <pleia2> :)
[02:53]  * broder waves
[02:58] <akk> hi all!
[03:26] <dedalux> Hi
[03:29] <pleia2> hello dedalux
[03:29] <pleia2> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/6330024405/ from tonight :)
[03:30] <pleia2> picked up the thunderbird sickers at uds
[03:30] <pleia2> stickers
[03:30] <akk> Nice spread!
[18:32] <BotenAnna> http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/10/2552190/senate-defeats-bill-that-would-have-overturned-net-neutrality-rules yay!
[18:33] <BotenAnna> dystopian nightmare where the "real" internet is a darknet averted slightly!
[18:33] <nhaines> BotenAnna: I'm also happy about the "anti-bullying unless you think you should be able to bully" law in Michigan.
[18:33] <BotenAnna> haha yeah that was really freaking dumb
[18:35] <BotenAnna> and mississippi of all places, in the midst of a heated election where conservative candidates resoundingly won their seats, resoundingly defeated a proposition that a legal person is defined at conception
[18:35] <nhaines> BotenAnna: that's great.  can I claim a fetus as a tax deduction then?
[18:35] <BotenAnna> well not now youcan't!
[18:36] <nhaines> Communists!
[18:36] <BotenAnna> filthy satan liberals say that a baby has to be "born" :rolls eyes:
[18:37] <nhaines> I liked the part where it would make IVF murder.
[18:37] <BotenAnna> in all fairness, for the horrific things that would cause, there could be some really fun trolling
[18:37] <BotenAnna> 20.25 year olds demanding alcohol and the like
[18:37] <nhaines> 17.25 year olds voting.
[18:37] <BotenAnna> exactly
[18:43] <Faqtotum> i would have voted for perot
[19:09] <MarkDude> Anyone in Bay Area feel like being part of a zombie comic book photoshoot on Sat?
[19:09] <MarkDude> We have a makeup artist already, and the rest of the cast
[19:10] <MarkDude> Meeting at salon in WC, then to Oakland, and then Lake Merrit
[19:11] <nhaines> How did my server not have ntpd installed?  Fixing now.
[19:15] <nhaines> Well, 150 seconds isn't bad.
[20:29] <dragon> MarkDude: didn't know lake merrit was on the plan.
[20:30] <dragon> What IS the plan!?
[20:31] <MarkDude> Well those getting makeup meet up in WC
[20:31] <MarkDude> At Belle's studio
[20:31] <MarkDude> Stacy and Lyz are getting regular makeup done at 10-11
[20:32] <MarkDude> then we are having maybe 3 zombies done
[20:32] <dragon> I'm bringing an extra zombie.
[20:32] <dragon> Just in case.
[20:32] <MarkDude> No Nixie for this shoot
[20:32] <MarkDude> Cool
[20:32] <dragon> Yeah, Nixie is a busy chick.
[20:32] <MarkDude> She is closing her salon until 1pm
[20:32] <pleia2> there is another Lyz?
[20:32] <MarkDude> Ooops, yes, not the Princess
[20:37] <MarkDude> Although pleia2 would make for awesome zombie.... Idk that is a project that you would be interested in :D
[20:38] <MarkDude> dragon, maybe Sam wants to be standby zombie?
[20:38] <MarkDude> Stacy already asked a few people in local bands to join
[20:38] <MarkDude> Not sure on responses yet
[20:39] <pleia2> not really my scene :) (even if I did have the time, which I don't)
[20:39] <pleia2> am finally home this weekend (for once!), and I'm on call
[20:41] <dragon> MarkDude: that's be a good idea.
[20:41] <dragon> And that's the extra zombie I was referring to. :P
[20:41] <dragon> But makeup. How'd that work?
[20:41] <dragon> I can't really be there before 1:30pm.
[20:46] <Faqtotum> lovely, someone's using the xmpp gateway
[20:49] <dragon> Cougarswiss: Welcome to Ubuntu California LoCo.
[20:50] <Cougarswiss> Thank you dragon.
[20:50] <dragon> Faqtotum: easier than setting up an IRC client, I'd say.
[20:51] <Faqtotum> i typically use pidgin for xmpp, so it's the same to me
[20:53] <dragon> I wonder if this works<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:53] <dragon> Not on my network. My company restricts outgoing non-standard ports.
[20:53] <dragon> And this uses 8080.
[20:57] <Faqtotum> i get a blank page
[20:58] <dragon> To start with?
[20:58] <Faqtotum> no, after speaking a nick
[20:59] <Faqtotum> i said "ubuntu" and the speech recognition rendered it as "ubaldo"
[20:59] <dragon> okay, so irc.talkr.im doesn't like clients authenticated by SASL-Anon.
[20:59] <dragon> hahah
[20:59] <dragon> I hope you're pronouncing all the U's the same way.
[21:00] <dragon> and yeah, need to tweak this a bit more before it starts to support IRC.
[21:00] <dragon> That'd be like creating mibbit, then.
[21:01] <Faqtotum> mibbit is banned on freenode after severe abuses, mostly by one very bored british teenager
[21:11] <dragon> lol. I knew it was banned, but didn't know that it was one kid's job.
[21:11] <dragon> Mibbit was certainly doing it wrong.
[21:16] <Faqtotum> he wasn't an official reason, but it was a widely believed rumor at the time, for good reason
[21:18] <dragon> Yeah. They should just have made the IP addresses available.
[21:20] <dragon> Oh, talkr.im is doing it wrong too.
[21:20] <dragon> So one talkr.im user can spam and get the gateway blocked.
[21:20] <dragon> But not as wrong as mibbit. Gotta admin.
[21:20] <dragon> s/in/it/
[21:33] <Faqtotum> mibbit always showed the ip address and still does
[21:34] <Faqtotum> talkr.im is already banned in a number of channels
[21:35] <dragon> No surprise.
[21:35] <dragon> and if mibbit showed IP, why did it go down?
[21:37] <Faqtotum> appeared punitive to me
[21:37] <pleia2> by default it showed the IP in a /whois, the ircd had to be patched for it to show as a proper hostname, either way it was very easy to just block mibbit because of all the abuse
[21:38] <pleia2> we haven't blocked it entirely on another network I help manage, but it certainly is widely abused there too so we have to keep a close eye on it
[21:40] <Faqtotum> more and more networks are blocking mibbit now
[21:40] <Faqtotum> but that's much more recent
[21:41] <pleia2> we blocked them before freenode, but then loosened our policy
[21:41] <pleia2> our network only has about 3k users though
[21:50] <BotenAnna> it's unfortunate because mibbit is pretty useful
[21:50] <BotenAnna> i run a small irc server mainly for friends so i don't have more than one serious abuse attempt in history, and none with mibbit
[21:50] <BotenAnna> but i see how it becomes A Problem when you're bigger =\
[21:52] <Faqtotum> freenode is big.
[21:53] <Faqtotum> lilo got a lot of flack, but i never did get how he managed to manage it all
[21:56] <dragon> ah, makes sense.
[22:13] <MarkDude> dragon, You cant be earlier than 12:00?
[22:14] <MarkDude> We have plenty of people without makeup meeting at Lake Merit - her shop is closing for this, and will re-open at 1 pm
[22:14] <dragon> MarkDude: gotta be elsewhere 10am-noon.
[22:14] <dragon> I'd have to cancel that.
[22:15] <MarkDude> k
[22:15] <MarkDude> Well depends on if stacy can find another zombie
[22:15] <MarkDude> we have more townsfolk then zombies now
[22:16] <MarkDude> like a horde of 2 zombies is NOT a horde, at least 3 is
[22:16] <dragon> yep.
[22:16] <dragon> could you invite Cougarswiss (Sam) to the event btw?
[22:18] <Cougarswiss> Wait, what's going on?
[22:18] <dragon> Cougarswiss: talking about the upcoming photoshoot.
[22:19] <Cougarswiss> Okay.
[22:27] <BotenAnna> 21:53 < Faqtotum> lilo got a lot of flack, but i never did get how he managed to manage it all
[22:27] <BotenAnna> i cant speak for any specific drama here
[22:28] <BotenAnna> but i can say this: having been in charge of things wherein it is smaller but very drama-y, I have a decent amount of respect for people who do their best to corral large oss groups because they are also very drama-y
[22:30] <BotenAnna> and with oss it's even worse than just a group of friends, as they're often more sophisticated in using technical measures to poorly advocate for what they want and you have to deal with THAT too :(
[22:31] <dragon> Interesting.
[22:32] <BotenAnna> for any familiar with the bear gryllis meme "welp, i am mad about punctuation before my name in an irc chatroom, better drink my own pi--i mean ddos"
[22:55] <Faqtotum> BotenAnna: very very true
[23:55] <BotenAnna> ahahahahahaha, best daily wtf in a while http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Truth-Enough.aspx