[10:23] <flaccid> noaXess: im not an ubuntu developer
[10:23] <eagles05> me neither
[10:23] <sgrover> flaccid: understood.  But the reason I switched to Ubuntu from Gentoo was the maintenance time needed...
[10:23] <hi> sponix: have you found an uncompressed tarball repository for debian etc?
[10:23] <eagles05> i am planning on creating my own cluster distro based on kubuntu
[10:24] <flaccid> gentoo is far different in terms of setup. thats why debian has an installer and is more out of the box than gentoo
[10:24] <sgrover> that and doing an apt-get update/upgrade rarely breaks the system.  Gentoo's emerge world would need manual intervention to configure the .conf files.
[10:24] <flaccid> ouch
[10:24] <hi> sponix: because an incremental d/l would then be possible with rsync it seems. i'm checking into the syntax now...
[10:24]  * flaccid is a freebsd user.
[10:24] <sgrover> flaccid: agreed.  Gentoo is source based.  Much different perspectives involved.
[10:25] <flaccid> not necessarily source based as binaries available. gentoobsd intrests me but yeah..
[10:25] <noaXess> flaccid: and hwo do you use kubuntu if you are a freebsd user?
[10:25] <noaXess> or when..
[10:25] <flaccid> noaXess: i use linux as desktop as bsd vendor support is worse off for us than linux...
[10:25] <sgrover> :) Gentoo has changed much since I last installed it.  But getting better...  Still I'll stick with Ubuntu for the reduced maintenance time...
[10:26] <eagles05> kde4 desktop looks like open suse's current kde3.5
[10:26] <hi> actually, what's the upside to gentoo?
[10:26] <flaccid> sgrover: its not really maintenance, its setup - installation/post installation but yeah
[10:26] <flaccid> eagles05: possibly because opensuse made some contribs
[10:26] <sgrover> noaXess: one of the local guys is in the same boat.  Runs *bsd for his servers, but *buntu for the desktops.
[10:26] <eagles05> possible its the only distro that will semi run on my new laptop
[10:26] <hi> i tried it long ago when i had slow harware, so the philosophy of no binaries was a bottleneck. i have a faster computer now so i might be interested
[10:26] <flaccid> hi: its better than ubuntu. but thats simply my general opinion. i don't use it but
[10:26] <eagles05> kubuntu x wont work
[10:27] <sgrover> rather common for those who are security conscious, and more UNIX thinking than Linux thinknig
[10:27] <eagles05> and it hangs during format and installation and never installs properly
[10:27] <hi> flaccid: how's gentoo better though?
[10:27] <flaccid> hi: i compile on my p2 300mhz bsd server and yeah it does take ages but i just wait days heh
[10:27] <flaccid> hi: less bugs imo
[10:27] <flaccid> less bs
[10:27] <hi> ah
[10:27] <flaccid> less forking
[10:27] <eagles05> flaccid: cluster it with something else
[10:27] <hi> lol, i was bitching on a 500Mhz cpu...
[10:27] <flaccid> depends what implementation of clustering and what for
[10:27]  * flaccid pats his kristine she goes very well
[10:28] <sgrover> time for sleep.  Night all...  I'll check back tomorrow re: my wireless issues.
[10:28] <flaccid> kristine before was ubuntu dapper server ouch
[10:28] <flaccid> night
[10:28] <hi> ditto here, i'm running off to sleep at a nice 1/2 past 2a thurs morning. cheerz all :)
[10:28] <eagles05> lol
[10:29] <eagles05> flaccid: the os im goign to start creating im going to work on for those entierly new to clustering
[10:29] <eagles05> basically work on making it as much plug and play with minor configuration
[10:29] <flaccid> yeah eagles05 my point is why are you clustering and what for? what model/configuration is the clustering?
[10:30] <eagles05> have u ever run those boinc projects
[10:30] <flaccid> yeah
[10:30] <flaccid> boinc is from bsd iirc
[10:30] <casper__> just installed kde been using ubuntu for about 6 months, i think i like the change :)
[10:30] <flaccid> !seti
[10:30] <flaccid> casper__: nice :)
[10:31] <casper__> whats this plasma file though...its in my lost and found? i hate not know what things are
[10:31] <eagles05> i have as well i am a member of a number of the projects in clustering u r able to run the same data set basically the larger the dataset in a cluster the less time it will take
[10:31] <flaccid> casper__: not sure why a plasma file is there. you could ask #kde i guess
[10:32] <eagles05> then i wanna try get into the rendering farm business for 3d animations
[10:32] <eagles05> and huge renderings
[10:32] <eagles05> data analysis
[10:32] <eagles05> just about anything clusterable
[10:33] <flaccid> eagles05: a lot of p2p and clustering research was done at my uni. all i can say is that its a newish realm but the quality of the OS and its kernel/procesing makes a big difference...
[10:33] <flaccid> somone had 50 identical pIIIs hooked up for a range of experiments
[10:34] <eagles05> flaccid: thanks for the advice ill keep it under consideration
[10:34] <flaccid> eagles05: just do some tests for yourself i guess in the right constant enviro
[10:34] <eagles05> ya
[10:34] <eagles05> right now i have not even begun to work on it i still have one more exam to go
[10:34] <eagles05> then i need to start learning c++
[10:35] <flaccid> as usual this kind of stuff relies on a huge amount of different variables
[10:35] <flaccid> eagles05: do the c++ with qt4
[10:35] <flaccid> thats a really good practical way of learning
[10:35] <eagles05> ok
[10:35] <eagles05> isnt qt4 something u need for kde4
[10:35] <flaccid> yes is the gui toolkit component
[10:36] <eagles05> kool
[10:36] <eagles05> i need to download kde4
[10:36] <flaccid> ie. qt kills gtk :)
[10:36] <eagles05> cuz amarok-nightly isnt working on kde3 for me
[10:36] <flaccid> eagles05: give it a shot. i've reverted to ke3 because of limitations/bugs
[10:36] <flaccid> they exist without problem in theory
[10:36] <flaccid> whats amarok-nightly atm. 1.4 or 2.0 ?
[10:37] <casper__> any1 know how to update from kde 4.0 to 4.04......kde group isnt helping
[10:37] <eagles05> 2
[10:37] <flaccid> casper__: adept manager or apt-get should be fine, do you have a problem specifically?
[10:38] <flaccid> eagles05: yeah thats qt4 purely i think even though it will probably run under qt3/kde3 etc. not sure. the #amarok guys are pretty good at advising
[10:38] <eagles05> ill go ahead and dl qt4 i got nothing to lose this is a dev/testing machine anywho
[10:38] <wesley> Casper blijf gewoon bij 4.0.3 das beter
[10:39] <flaccid> !de | wesley
[10:39] <obvio> i followed http://www.manicai.net/comp/swap-caps-ctrl.html to swap ctrl and caps, but now kwin won't start automatically. does anyone know what could be the problem?
[10:39] <flaccid> das ist super
[10:39] <eagles05> flaccid:  i think u in wrong channel
[10:39] <eagles05> :p
[10:39] <flaccid> its not me in the wrong chan :)
[10:40] <obvio> i actually have to painstakingly copy and paste stuff with the mouse on the terminal until i can form the word "kwin", then paste a "\n" (which makes me feel in fact quite 1337, but after the second time it gets old pretty fast)
[10:40] <wesley> flaccid you insult me
[10:40] <flaccid> wesley: how so. im sorry
[10:40] <wesley> i am not german
[10:41] <casper__> ich bin deutch
[10:41] <flaccid> well das is german. so i am sorry wesley
[10:41] <wesley> i am dutch is insulting to call a dutch one german
[10:42] <flaccid> wesley: im an australian convict we don't know better and an insult is purely subjective.
[10:42] <flaccid> not my fault if you guys are sensitive and emo
[10:42] <obvio> lol
[10:42] <casper__> lol
[10:42] <flaccid> :0
[10:43] <wesley> lol i am in germany now :P
[10:43] <flaccid> im promoting avb for the australian leg of the tour so yeah i respect the dutch...
[10:43] <flaccid> coool :)
[10:43] <casper__> im having some serious refresh issues...wow not used to this kde stuff
[10:43] <flaccid> wesley: avb is going to rock it here in may :)
[10:44] <wesley> thats nice
[10:44] <eagles05> !avb
[10:44] <eagles05> !info avb
[10:44] <flaccid> eagles05: offtopic - its armin van buuren
[10:44] <eagles0513875> oh
[10:44] <eagles0513875> i should know that
[10:44] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:44] <wesley> oh armin vanm buuren is great
[10:44] <flaccid> hehe
[10:44] <eagles0513875> i have something majorly off tpic
[10:45] <flaccid> wesley: yeah hes playing in sydney on 6 jun. im am his promoter in australia.
[10:45] <eagles0513875> im going to be djing this summer on radio stream x10radio.com djing techno house and trance avb included if u guys r interested
[10:45] <flaccid> eagles0513875: im a dj too. feel free to PM the link or whatever..
[10:46] <eagles0513875> flaccid: pmed ya
[10:46] <flaccid> ta
[10:51] <casper__> how do i get opengl and all other 3d support stuff working?
[10:51] <eagles0513875> casper__: on kubuntu
[10:51] <eagles0513875> obviously
[10:51] <eagles0513875> under system it says hardware device manager open that
[10:51] <flaccid> casper__: which vid card/driver you use?
[10:52] <eagles0513875> flaccid:
[10:52] <eagles0513875> all he needs to do is what i mentioned abov
[10:52] <eagles0513875> e
[10:52] <eagles0513875> sry cant spell today
[10:52] <casper__> 64mb intel laptop one
[10:52] <casper__> spellin is overated
[10:53] <eagles0513875> casper__: should work out of box for ya
[10:53] <eagles0513875> casper__: plz dont tell me u going ot try get compiz to work with it lol
[10:54] <casper__> no...had compiz working fine with it, but it is more irratating that anything else
[10:54] <flaccid> sorry i don't know the specific issue yet
[10:55] <flaccid> please repeat
[10:55] <crazy_bus> something on my computer is slowing the internet.  Can anyone recommend a small program which will tell me what programs are currently accessing the internet?
[10:55] <casper__> might be doing an update
[10:56] <crazy_bus> no I stopped an update.  But something is still using it
[10:56] <eagles0513875> crazy_bus: i know a program that will tell u how much up and down bandwith u using
[10:56] <flaccid> crazy_bus: can't think of one. but you can use netstat. like netstat -a | grep -i esabli
[10:56] <eagles0513875> crazy_bus: its called iptraf
[10:57] <crazy_bus> eagles0513875: does that tell you what each individual program is ussing?
[10:57] <ere4si> crazy_bus: type   netstat -tup   in a konsole
[10:57] <eagles0513875> crazy_bus: no it doesnt give u totals though
[10:58] <flaccid> !info iptraf
[10:58] <flaccid> i'll give that a try then
[10:59] <crazy_bus> ere4si: I did that and it gave me a list.  One of those looks like a sourceforge mirror.  It just says ED - after it.  What does it mean?
[10:59] <harolddong> is anybody else having of problem with kde4 and qt4 apps crashing on open after updating to kde 4.0.3?
[10:59] <obvio171> i updated something now kwin won't start automatically. does anybody know where i set it to start automatically again?
[10:59] <harolddong> I mean 4.0.4
[10:59] <harolddong> sorry
[10:59] <obvio171> i'm on kde 4.0.4
[10:59] <obvio171> kubuntu amd64
[11:00] <obvio171> harolddong: not crashing; just kwin won't start on its own :-/
[11:00] <crazy_bus> no download manager is open
[11:01] <harolddong> I can log into kde4 fine but so far any app I open that's not a qt3 or gnome app will crash and give and show the backtrace thing
[11:01] <eagles0513875> crazy_bus: u torrenting or anything like that
[11:01] <harolddong> this also happen when I log into kde3
[11:02] <crazy_bus> eagles0513875: no torrent clients open
[11:02] <eagles0513875> crazy_bus: p2p
[11:02] <crazy_bus> eagles0513875: none opened
[11:03] <harolddong> should I remove the kde4 profile and try and start fresh?
[11:04] <eagles0513875> crazy_bus: interesting
[11:04] <harolddong> so far konsole is the only kde4 app that will open for me
[11:05] <ere4si> crazy_bus: I don't know..
[11:07] <ct529> I am running 7.10 for 386 but would like to update to 804 for amd 64 by using the network. Is that possible?
[11:08] <eagles0513875> !upgrade
[11:08] <eagles0513875> !upgrade | ct529
[11:09] <ct529> eagles0513875: well, I know that document. I am not sure you read my full question. :D
[11:09] <eagles0513875> ct529: to be honest they got rid of upgrading ur sources and just running a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:10] <eagles0513875> thats the way i used to do it but left me with more problems then its worth
[11:10] <ct529> eagles0513875: I used to do that, it did work well for me ....
[11:10] <eagles0513875> lucky i ended up with too many issues
[11:10] <flaccid> using what network?
[11:10] <ct529> eagles0513875: but the problem here is moving from i386 to amd64
[11:10] <flaccid> there are many networks
[11:11] <eagles0513875> gotcha
[11:14] <crazy_bus> It seems a process called 'http' is using the internet.  Does anyone know what it is exactly?
[11:15] <flaccid> crazy_bus: please paste the entry from ps
[11:16] <crazy_bus> flaccid: I found it.  Adebt is still accessing the internet even though it's shut
[11:16] <flaccid> cool
[11:16] <flaccid> pretty typical
[11:16] <crazy_bus> would it hurt it to kill 'http'
[11:17] <flaccid> probably not. i get quite annoyed at the lack of adept killing itself..
[11:24] <tdn> How do I run VMware server in Kubuntu Hardy Heron?
[11:25] <eddieftw> !vm
[11:25] <Dekans> K > System > VMware server
[11:27] <ubuntu_> uhh, hi... just upgraded to hardy heron, and accidently didn't let grub update my menu.lst file
[11:28] <darksideII> there we go...
[11:28] <flaccid> ubuntu_: did you submit a bug yet
[11:28] <darksideII> its not a bug... its just i pressed the wrong button on install :P
[11:28] <darksideII> just wondering if its possible to edit the menu.lst file manually
[11:28] <flaccid> ah ok
[11:28] <darksideII> now, i've mounted the partition, all good there
[11:29] <flaccid> darksideII: sorry. kdeusdo /boot/grub/menu.list
[11:29] <darksideII> yeah i got that part fine
[11:29] <darksideII> im just not sure what to add to it
[11:29] <darksideII> i see all this UUID crap, and im not sure what to do about it
[11:29] <flaccid> you would need to know the partition the bootable fs is on
[11:29] <Dekans> update-grub ?
[11:29] <flaccid> good point Dekans
[11:29] <darksideII> uhh
[11:29] <darksideII> yo uhave to have it mounted to /boot to get that working
[11:30]  * flaccid feels like an old manual guy
[11:30] <darksideII> no wait
[11:30] <darksideII> i'm chrooted in anyway
[11:30] <darksideII> hehe
[11:30] <flaccid> darksideII: you need to be booted into the operating system in question not a livecd or otherwise
[11:30] <flaccid> ok good luck
[11:30] <darksideII> or you chroot into the os :)
[11:30] <darksideII> like i just did
[11:30] <flaccid> yeah
[11:30] <Dekans> you can do it with a desktop CD too
[11:31] <darksideII> oh wtf, it didn't change a damn thing
[11:31] <darksideII> ugh
[11:32] <darksideII> weeeeeeeeeeeel, what would i add to menu.lst
[11:32] <darksideII> kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=74971c0f-17c4-4056-90de-d389700b9d2d ro quiet splash
[11:32] <darksideII> now, i' can copy those lines, etc
[11:33] <darksideII> but i dont know what to do with the uuid part
[11:33] <flaccid> just fyi you dn't need to use UUID
[11:33] <darksideII> oh nice :)
[11:33] <flaccid> myself, i skip it when going manual here
[11:33] <darksideII> so... what would i add
[11:33] <flaccid> so /dev/sda1 or whateve will do
[11:33] <flaccid> the linux logical device name
[11:33] <darksideII> vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic
[11:33] <flaccid> as per fdisk and grub
[11:33] <darksideII> i have that
[11:33] <darksideII> uh
[11:33] <flaccid> thats the kernel etc.
[11:34] <darksideII> ohhhhh ok
[11:34] <darksideII> i get it
[11:34] <darksideII> so the root= part is the partition
[11:35] <flaccid> yep
[11:35] <darksideII> well... since i've only upgraded, not reinstalled, and its on the same partition anyway
[11:35] <darksideII> couldn't i just modify the lines?
[11:35] <darksideII> and use the same UUID's ?
[11:36] <darksideII> kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic root=UUID=74971c0f-17c4-4056-90de-d389700b9d2d ro quiet splash
[11:36] <darksideII> like, do that?
[11:36] <flaccid> ah uuid is made from the part/fs uniquely so any change will be a dif uuid so a direct linux logical dev name is fine
[11:36] <flaccid> !uuid
[11:36] <flaccid> if that sthe right uuid then yes looks ok i think
[11:37] <flaccid> you could have for eg. /vmlinuz...... root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet
[11:37] <darksideII> heh
[11:37] <darksideII> well, the uuid's seem fine
[11:37] <flaccid> cool
[11:38] <o0Chris0o> hey guys, if I do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and after it installes and make kde the default session,  could I delete gnome and just run kubuntu?
[11:38] <veress> j/ dej
[11:38] <veress> j dej
[11:38] <flaccid> o0Chris0o: yep
[11:38] <darksideII> well... time to give this a go
[11:39] <o0Chris0o> flaccid: cool, thanks...oh yah..will it still load as ubuntu? splash screen
[11:39] <o0Chris0o> or switch to kubuntu
[11:39] <flaccid> it will load as kdm as the login manager without gdm or gnome
[11:41] <o0Chris0o> alright thanks
[11:41] <flaccid> np
[11:41] <o0Chris0o> kde just has soo much more stuff I don't like to be limited
[11:41] <o0Chris0o> :)
[11:41] <flaccid> not sure what you mean. but kde kills gnome afaic
[11:41] <o0Chris0o> superkaramba for instance
[11:42] <flaccid> superkaramba is being replaced in kde4
[11:42] <o0Chris0o> replaced by something better I assume?
[11:42] <flaccid> yeah plasma
[11:42] <o0Chris0o> cool
[11:42] <mil> Question
[11:42] <Darkside> weeeeeeeeeeel, seems ok :)
[11:43] <mil> what's .<dir> dirs ?
[11:43] <Darkside> kde loaded up all goof
[11:43] <Darkside> good*
[11:43] <o0Chris0o> I downloaded it and installed it week ago, it was just a tease tho, can't wait for the stable release
[11:43] <mil> guyz !!?
[11:43] <o0Chris0o> mil
[11:43] <o0Chris0o> dir is directory
[11:43] <mil> i know
[11:43] <flaccid> yea kd4 is not up to function of kde3 yet
[11:44] <mil> but in linux
[11:44] <mil> what's lets say .amule
[11:44] <flaccid> mil: i don't understand your query
[11:45] <mil> hmm
[11:45] <mil> if im creating a dir
[11:45] <mil> and putting dot in start
[11:45] <mil> that's mean somthing ?
[11:46] <flaccid> mil:  what are you trying to achieve
[11:49] <DarksideII> ok its notworking ....
[11:49] <DarksideII> it seems to freeze after a short time
[11:49] <flaccid> i gtg
[11:49] <DarksideII> its not the fglrx drivers, since it happens when i drop to a terminal too
[11:50] <DarksideII> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:6eiSlbn7UMMJ:www.ryanheise.com/LW60/+lg+lw-60+debian&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=opera
[11:51] <DarksideII> that page gives tips about how to get linux booting proeprly on my lapyop, and i think i used some of those commands in grub once, but i forget how i used themnow
[11:55] <Greenery> how to make static ip address on Knetworkmanager?
[11:58] <neville_> Okay guys, I need some help. Can someone recommend to me a wireless ethernet card, something sort of recent, that is essentially works-out-of-the-box in Kubuntu 7.10?
[11:58] <neville_> Just a basic one at that, I haven't really got the money for a super duper card :P
[11:59] <ere4si> !wireless | nevi
[11:59] <ere4si> oops
[11:59] <ere4si> not what I was after
[12:00] <o0Chris0o> hey guys who do I talk to about the bots here in the channel? Id like to open up an unoffical channel on the Rizon network
[12:05] <ct529> do you know how to extract some files from one .iso image?
[12:05] <o0Chris0o> just open it up in archive application
[12:05] <o0Chris0o> and select which items you want to be extracted
[12:07] <o0Chris0o> hey guys, once I have installed kde 3, how do I remove gnome and the apps
[12:08] <ct529> o0Chris0o: my archive application does not open it .... why????
[12:08] <ct529> o0Chris0o: which archive application do you use?
[12:08] <o0Chris0o> you said its an iso?
[12:08] <o0Chris0o> try opening up cd burning software and see if you can extract it that way
[12:09] <myk_robinson> hey. How can i increase battery life on my laptop with Kubuntu? I read there is some tool in Ubuntu Gnome to make some sort of power adjustments, is there something in KDE?
[12:09] <myk_robinson> btw, laptop is a Compaq Presario F730US
[12:09] <o0Chris0o> !power
[12:09] <o0Chris0o> !battery
[12:09] <o0Chris0o> blah one sec
[12:09] <myk_robinson> thank you
[12:10] <eagles0513875> myk_robinson: i know someone who got 3hrs out of his battery
[12:10] <eagles0513875> what he did was i think he took the power management and loaded it as a module instead
[12:10] <eagles0513875> which i would like to try out and i could put that in as a suggestion for ibex
[12:10] <myk_robinson> actually, i may be jumping the gun.. I have been on it for about an hour, the battery icon claims i still have 1:58 left. Not sure how accurate it is.
[12:11] <Odd-rationale> o0Chris0o: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[12:11] <eagles0513875> dunno either
[12:11] <eagles0513875> myk_robinson:  what proc is in ur laptop
[12:11] <o0Chris0o> ty Odd-rationale
[12:11] <o0Chris0o> :)
[12:11] <myk_robinson> athlon 64 X2
[12:11] <Odd-rationale> i got 2:58 out of my batt
[12:11] <eagles0513875> on windows i know i get 3 hrs out of it but i have so mny problems getting it to work with my turion
[12:12] <o0Chris0o> kde comes with power saving settings I think, I'm not sure, because I don't have it currently installed
[12:12] <eagles0513875> i cant get kubuntu installed what so evr
[12:12] <eagles0513875> but i know someone who has made the power management load as a module and he got 3 hrs out of his and his is an intel core 2 duo
[12:13] <eagles0513875> is there awinblows channel on here
[12:13] <Odd-rationale> yes kde comes with guidance-power-manager
[12:13] <Odd-rationale> !windows
[12:13] <myk_robinson> now the battery thingy is telling me i have over 9 hours left... funny
[12:13] <eagles0513875> what this person i know did he had it load as a module instead which seems to have significantly increased his battery life
[12:14] <Odd-rationale> myk_robinson: wow! :P
[12:14] <luc_> anybody synchronising kontact with egroupware ?
[12:15] <myk_robinson> needless to say, that is a bit inaccurate :)
[12:15] <eagles0513875> i dont know how acurate that is
[12:15] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:15] <eagles0513875> i get about an hr and half on this puppy
[12:15] <o0Chris0o> brb
[12:16] <eagles0513875> but this laptop does have an atholon 3200+
[12:16] <ActionParsni1> hey all
[12:16] <DarksideII> ok, i've worked out that my crashing problems arent to do with fglrx
[12:16] <DarksideII> its to do wiht my laptop
[12:16] <DarksideII> now, i fixed this once before, but now i can't remember what i did =/
[12:17] <ActionParsni1> is there a way to block chanserv messages in pidgin?
[12:17] <DarksideII> i think it was to do with changing some boot settings
[12:17] <luc_> anybody synchronising kontact with egroupware without problems?
[12:17] <chloe> silly question: How do I get the compiz cube to have 4 sides rather than 2 in hardy ? (i can find it in the cube options anywhere)
[12:17] <DarksideII> theres information about installing debian onmy laptop here:http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:6eiSlbn7UMMJ:www.ryanheise.com/LW60/+lg+lw-60+debian&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=opera  but i cant work out how to add the acpi=on bits to my menu.lst
[12:18] <ActionParsni1> chloe: no idea there, I hate the cube
[12:19] <chloe> ActionParsni1: it's the principle
[12:19] <ActionParsni1> chloe: I think its compiz-manager
[12:20] <Odd-rationale> chloe: do you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed?
[12:20] <ActionParsni1> chloe: jump into konsole and type compiz then hit tab a few times
[12:20] <ActionParsni1> something smart should turn up and you can configure it
[12:21] <chloe> nothign
[12:21] <Odd-rationale> chloe: then: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[12:21] <ActionParsni1> chloe: then id install compizconfig-settings-manager like Odd-rationale says
[12:21] <chloe> i have it
[12:21] <chloe> in the general options (ccsm)
[12:21] <Odd-rationale> ok good open it
[12:22] <eagles0513875> nice to see the ladies in here getting the guts to try something new
[12:22] <luc_> one more try anybody synchronising kontact with egroupware ?
[12:22] <chloe> not really a lady just setting up a ladys computer
[12:22] <chloe> vista repulsed her :)
[12:22] <Odd-rationale> in the general options, go to desktop size. set h=4 v=1 and no. desk = 1
[12:22] <eagles0513875> ActionParsni1: lol can u make up ur mind if ur going to be using windows or linux :p btw im going to try get the latest nvidia driver for my video card
[12:22] <Odd-rationale> chloe: ^
[12:23] <eagles0513875> lol its repulsing me having issues with it thank god for my old laptop its my linux baby
[12:23] <chloe> onyl thing left to get working is wifi
[12:23] <chloe> *sigh*
[12:23] <o0Chris0o> alright I uninstalled gnome
[12:23] <ActionParsni1> eagles0513875: I use KUbuntu, eeeXUbuntu / Mandriva and have a vista box
[12:23] <o0Chris0o> but
[12:23] <o0Chris0o> it still loads
[12:23] <o0Chris0o> go figure?
[12:23] <Odd-rationale> chloe: did that work?
[12:24] <ActionParsni1> eagles0513875: its simple to troubleshoot stuf, just websearch
[12:24] <chloe> did what work ?
[12:24] <eagles0513875> ActionParsni1: lol i have a kubuntu and vista box
[12:24] <chloe> yes Odd-rationale thats what I did
[12:24] <Odd-rationale> chloe: in the general options, go to desktop size. set h=4 v=1 and no. desk = 1
[12:24] <chloe> and it worked
[12:24] <eagles0513875> tried kubuntu on my new laptop its more headache then its worth only distro that works is open suse partially
[12:24] <DarksideII> ok GREAT.... so upgrading to hardy has been a REAL bad move for me
[12:24] <Odd-rationale> chloe: ok good.
[12:25] <ActionParsni1> DarksideII, id recommend a clean install each time, have /home on a seperate partition and its simple
[12:25] <DarksideII> ...
[12:25] <DarksideII> thats not the problem
[12:25] <DarksideII> the problem is to do with acpi i think
[12:25] <DarksideII> it worked in gutsy, and doesn't work in hardy
[12:26] <DarksideII> i mean, everything else seems fine... its just my system hangs after about a minute...
[12:27] <DarksideII> and i think i had this problem with gutsy at first, but i fixed it somehow
[12:27] <DarksideII> i just can't remember how
[12:27] <ActionParsni1> ive just seen a LOT of people have issues after an upgrade so I just dont do it
[12:27] <DarksideII> hmm, i just booted with the option acpi=off
[12:28] <DarksideII> and my system hasn'y crashed yet
[12:28] <Darkside> probably just a matter of time tho :P
[12:28] <sponix> Anyone care to help with an Ubuntu/gnome question ?
[12:28] <Darkside> yeeeeeeeep, i don't think hardy likes my laptop
[12:28] <ActionParsni1> sponix: wassup?
[12:29] <Darkside> buuuuut, when i disable acpi it seems to work
[12:29] <Darkside> so... i dunno
[12:29] <ActionParsni1> Darkside: could try a clean install
[12:29] <Darkside> that would suck majorly
[12:29] <Darkside> and i bet it wouldn't help at all
[12:29] <Darkside> my laptop has some rather annoying peculiarities about it
[12:29] <eagles0513875> Darkside: what kinda laptop
[12:30] <Darkside> LG LW-60
[12:30] <ActionParsni1> well your current OS is worthless so Im guessing you are going to reinstall anyway
[12:30] <Darkside> not mainstream by any means
[12:30] <eagles0513875> cuz i have major issues getting hardy on my hp tx1308nr tablet
[12:30] <Darkside> ActionParsni1, its not worthless
[12:30] <Darkside> i'm using it now, i just had to set the option acpi=off
[12:30] <ActionParsni1> Darkside: ahh, ok cool. wtg
[12:30] <Darkside> i'm not too sure what consequences this will have though
[12:30] <eagles0513875> i have major issues getting it to install on installation hangs and then x doesnt start
[12:30] <eagles0513875> gutsy used to give me a pnp bios but on it
[12:31] <Darkside> ah yes, now i see the downside of having acpi=off
[12:31] <Darkside> i run a laptop, and now i can't see what my battery level is
[12:32] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:32] <Darkside> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566239
[12:32] <Darkside> that looks EXACTLY like my problem
[12:32] <Darkside> the livecd works fine
[12:33] <eagles0513875> same for me
[12:33] <sponix> in gnome, how do I get it to quit trying to play DVD's and crap when I insert them? use to be an option in the "removable media" section
[12:34] <Darkside> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+bug/148637
[12:34] <Darkside> theres the bug, and it still hasn't been resolved
[12:34] <Darkside> way to go..
[12:34] <ActionParsni1> sponix:  Top panel Menu > System > Preferences > Removable Drives and Media
 Good evening everyone
[12:35] <Synergy_Peace> [21:31] <Synergy_Peace> i was wondering how do you permanently set the desktop background in hardy kubuntu to scale and crop ?  As it keeps going back to max aspect?
[12:38] <therion> Hi, someone know a good weblog client for kde? an alternative to BloGTK...
[12:38] <sponix> ActionParsni1: it isn't there any more in Hardy
[12:39] <ActionParsni1> sponix: then ive no idea man, I use kde
[12:39] <ActionParsni1> sponix: try /j #ubuntu
[12:39] <sponix> nothing but tards in there
[12:40] <ActionParsni1> therion: Blokkal. I just webserched as Its not something i do
[12:40] <therion> thanks actionparsni1
[12:41] <ActionParsni1> therion: np bro
[12:42] <xRaich[o]2x> therion: For KDE4 there is kblogger.
[12:43] <ActionParsni1> xRaich[o]2x: not kde3?
[12:44] <xRaich[o]2x> I don't know if there is a KDE3 version. I'm using KDE4 only. Well and KDE3 on my FreeBSD machine. But I'm not blogging from there.
[12:45] <ActionParsni1> xRaich[o]2x: how wouldyou compare KUbuntu to FreeBSD?
[12:45] <Dr_willis> sort of like a Deisle vs Gas Engine. :)
[12:46] <xRaich[o]2x> I like FreeBSD better, but if you are searching for a desktop alternative give PCBSD a try.
[12:46] <xRaich[o]2x> I'm just using Linux because there is a lot going on in userland right now ^^
[12:47] <xRaich[o]2x> And driver support under Linux is a bit better. But most of my Hardware runs with Linux and FreeBSD.
[12:48] <ActionParsni1> xRaich[o]2x: my system's hardware works out of the box in linux :)
[12:48] <ActionParsni1> xRaich[o]2x: www.efficientpc.co.uk
[12:49] <xRaich[o]2x> ActionParsni1: So does mine PCBSD ;)
[12:49] <xRaich[o]2x> +on
[12:49] <ActionParsni1> i'll give it a whirl :)
[12:50] <xRaich[o]2x> Have fun. I'm off for university. Bye
[12:50] <ActionParsni1> peace
[13:08] <Darkside> hey, how do i get rid of the little 'you are using restricted drivers' popup and icon whenever i boot...
[13:10] <ActionParsni1> Darkside: can we have the exact phrase, Ive never seen that
[13:11] <Darkside> heh
[13:11] <Darkside> i'm using the ati fglrx drivers, and when i login i get a little icon in the system tray letting me know i'm using them
[13:11] <Darkside> and its annoying :P
[13:12] <ActionParsni1> or a screenshot
[13:12] <Darkside> ..
[13:12] <Darkside> its the restricted drivers manager
[13:12] <Darkside> thats what is running
[13:12] <mistiipu> iam following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html and getting following error. $ sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[13:12] <mistiipu> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied          any help?
[13:13] <ActionParsni1> mistiipu: is the file there? you could always chmod it :D
[13:14] <mistiipu> ActionParsni1 i dont know whats going on
[13:14] <Darkside> aaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway... i can probably deal with it for the moment
[13:14] <ActionParsni1> mistiipu: ty cd-ing to /proc/sys/net
[13:14] <Darkside> also, i'm using the 2.6.22 kernel at the moment, so i can have acpi
[13:14] <ActionParsni1> Darkside: you never got me what i asked for dude
[13:14] <mistiipu> ActionParsni1 ~$ cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[13:14] <mistiipu> 0
[13:14] <Darkside> ... i told you whats popping up
[13:14] <Darkside> its the restricted driver manager
[13:15] <ActionParsni1> Darkside: i asked for the  exct phrase or a screenshot
[13:15] <ActionParsni1> *exact
[13:15] <mistiipu> ActionParsni1 what is that comand echo > ... for and why isnt it working despit sudo ?
[13:15] <Darkside> ugh
[13:15] <Darkside> its the little bubble that comes up when you login, that tells you that your system is using restricted drivers to make your computer work properly
[13:16] <Darkside> aka the restricted drivers manager
[13:16] <bambach> hi all!
[13:16] <ActionParsni1> mistiipu: "echo 1 > <blah>" will put a "1" and only a "1" in the file. if you'd used >> it would have added the character to the end of the text
[13:16] <bambach> hi
[13:16] <bambach> are here german too?
[13:17] <mistiipu> $ cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[13:17] <ActionParsni1> mistiipu: if you use kdesu kate /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[13:17] <mistiipu> 0
[13:17] <mistiipu> user1@computer1:~$ echo 1 |sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[13:17] <mistiipu> 1
[13:17] <bambach> what?
[13:17] <Pici> mistiipu: I was just going to say to do tht
[13:17] <mistiipu> :)
[13:17] <ActionParsni1> !de | bambach
[13:17] <mistiipu> thx\
[13:17] <Pici> ActionParsni1: /proc/ is not a real filesystem, and those are not real files
[13:17] <bambach> danke
[13:17] <ActionParsni1> Pici: bah
[13:17] <ActionParsni1> Pici: :)
[13:18] <snikker> i've got a "python" process in tehe process table... why? what programm run this process?
[13:19] <epimeth> snikker: kdeinit
[13:19] <epimeth> snikker: just look at the proctable in tree mode, you'll see.
[13:20] <epimeth> snikker: python is a very popular programming language today.  a lot of programs in kde use it to comunicate with eachother
[13:21] <snikker> epimeth: it's a stand alone process...
[13:21] <ActionParsni1> !python | snikker
[13:21] <epimeth> snikker: mine isn't.... but I guess its possible that it is
[13:22] <epimeth> snikker: is the command just "python" ?  (not the name, the command... scroll all the way to the right)
[13:23] <snikker> epimeth: yes the name is only "python"
[13:24] <epimeth> snikker: all right,  mine is too
[13:24] <epimeth> snikker: don't worry about it.  it honestly is a language interpreter
[13:24] <giacomo_> !it
[13:25] <snikker> epimeth: ok, but i want only know why this is running...
[13:26] <snikker> epimeth: btw it's not a big problem if i can't
[13:27] <epimeth> snikker: ah... lets see then :-)
[13:27] <Mactaylor> when does fragmentation start to build up?
[13:27] <luc_> anybody synchronising kontact with egroupware  ?
[13:28] <epimeth> Mactaylor: depends on what filesystem you use... ext3 doesn't at all afaik.
[13:29] <Mactaylor> mixed
[13:29] <epimeth> snikker: open up a console
[13:29] <Dr_willis> ext2/3 can i  be forced to fragment i hear.. but its a bit hard to do. :)
[13:29] <Mactaylor> reiserfs for / and ext3 for /home
[13:29] <snikker> epimeth: ok
[13:29] <epimeth> snikker: $ps fuxa | grep python
[13:29] <epimeth> snikker: what name do you see on the left?
[13:30] <Mactaylor> is kubuntu mutithreaded?
[13:31] <snikker> epimeth: "python /usr/bin/system-config-printer-applet-kde"   and "/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/kblueplugd"
[13:31] <Dr_willis> I thought grub had issues booting / when it was reiserfs.. or has that been fixed now?
[13:31] <Dr_willis> snikker,  i got the exact same things.
[13:32] <Dr_willis> snikker,  just some scripts that are handling the printer and bluetooth gizmos i guess
[13:32] <epimeth> snikker: well there you go :-)  I also have guidance (the power manager) running on python
[13:32] <snikker> Dr_willis: ok, thank
[13:32] <snikker> epimeth: thank you very much for help :)
[13:33] <epimeth> snikker: no worries :-)
[13:34] <bambach> Where can i register me?
[13:34] <Dr_willis> - /msg nickserv help   and read the help.
[13:34] <Dr_willis> !register
[13:35] <bambach> Thank!!!
[13:41] <eagles0513875> i think i might have found an uber problem here
[13:42] <eagles0513875> im trying to download kde4
[13:43] <eagles0513875> and for some reason i keep getting gateway time out on one of the servers
[13:45] <Dr_willis> A lot of the servers are having issues right now.
[13:45] <Dr_willis> some of the servers do not have the  4.0.4 kde files mirrored yet also.
[13:45] <sacha_> yeah,australia doesnt have it yet :(
[13:45] <sacha_> atleast iinet doesnt
[13:46] <eagles0513875> im trying to download kde4 from repos to try amarok 2
[13:47] <psycodad> hello, i have some problems working with rdesktop: arrows, pgup,pgdn, del, home etc are not working via rdesktop. Is this something known ?
[13:47] <bambach> When im registred , can other see it?
[13:47] <eagles0513875> !login
[13:47] <eagles0513875> !identify
[13:48] <eagles0513875> bambach: does that help at all
[13:48] <scriptdevil> Where are the cd burning and irc applications in a default kde4 remix?
[13:48] <sacha_> k3b for burning, konversation for irc
[13:49] <eagles0513875> should be in usual spot as in kde3
[13:49] <eagles0513875> under the same catagories
[13:49] <cgentry72> I need to create a Newsletter, any software suggestions
[13:49] <scriptdevil> eagles0513875: I dont find K3b
[13:49] <sacha_> k3b is not installed by default
[13:49] <sacha_> apt-get install k3b
[13:49] <eagles0513875> yep
[13:49] <cgentry72> and why when I ask in the ubuntu channel I get *unable to send to channel?
[13:49] <eagles0513875> sudo apt-get install k3b
[13:49] <eagles0513875> cgentry72: try /join #ubuntu
[13:50] <scriptdevil> sacha_: I did that. But it doesnt appear in the menu
[13:50] <eagles0513875> or click on my link
[13:50] <sacha_> try typing in "k3"
[13:50] <cgentry72> eagles0513875, I am in the channel but I get that message
[13:50] <Pici> cgentry72: You are probably muted, ask in #ubuntu-ops
[13:50] <cgentry72> Pici, ok thanks
[13:50] <cgentry72> well can someone here offer and software for creating Newsletters
[13:50] <scriptdevil> I am launching it using Alt-F2
[13:51] <scriptdevil> KDE4 is seriously confusing!
[13:51] <scriptdevil> :(
[13:51] <sacha_> ?
[13:51] <sacha_> click the K on left hand side
[13:52] <Dr_willis> Desktop Publishing.. thers an app for that..
[13:52] <Dr_willis> I forget its name.. Scribus?
[13:52] <Dr_willis> !info scribus
[13:52] <xRaich[o]2x> scriptdevil: It's a bit different but I got used to i pretty quickly
[13:52] <cgentry72> Dr_willis, ok thank u
[13:52] <Dr_willis> cgentry72,  there may be others.. but i dont use them
[13:53] <cgentry72> Dr_willis, thank you
[14:01] <mspatar> hello
[14:01] <Dr_willis> !hi
[14:01] <mspatar> having some issues with pptp on 8.04
[14:01] <mspatar>   pptp[12332]: segfault at 300000010 rip 7faf476dc2d0 rsp 7fff4fdebbc0 error 4
[14:01] <Dr_willis> Sorry - i know nothing on that. :()
[14:02] <mspatar> any ideas?
[14:02] <Dr_willis> but that sounds bad. Check the forums yet?
[14:02] <mspatar> still searching ...
[14:02] <mspatar> :)
[14:02] <wirechief> I am having a verification issue with k3b it gives a error for track one, md5sum /dev/cdrom gives a good md5sum, checked kde bug report 88936 and is similar
[14:04] <wirechief> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88936
[14:04] <Wiss> bonjour
[14:05] <mistiipu> iam following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html done for eth1 (client) eth4 dsl connection. http://pastebin.com/m4bdf9f3a i configured for eth1 and its not working itself. link is up on client. but a cross on computer connection on server.       instead eth2 is working fine.  any help please ???
[14:06] <mspatar> ok, found this older bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pptp-linux/+bug/122844
[14:06] <mspatar> :)
[14:07] <student> :)
[14:08] <student_> :)
[14:08] <Kuba> :>
[14:08] <Kuba> ieważ routing statyczny musi być wprowadzany ręcznie przez ... Ponieważ routing statyczny wymaga dodatkowych zdolnośi administracyjnych nie jest on tak
[14:08] <Loganik> siemka
[14:08] <Kuba> zkond klikash?
[14:08] <Loganik> z 133
[14:09] <Loganik> wie ktos jak zrobic routing statyczny ?
[14:09] <Kuba> ja wiem:]
[14:09] <Loganik> klamiesz
[14:09] <Kuba> google wie
[14:09] <Loganik> ale nuda
[14:09] <Loganik> Kuba to gey :)
[14:10] <Kuba> pffffffffffffffffffff
[14:11] <Loganik> komu jeszcze sie nudzi ??
[14:11] <eagles0513875> Loganik: what language u want
[14:11] <Loganik> polish
[14:11] <eagles0513875> !pl
[14:12] <eagles0513875> Loganik: :)
[14:12] <Loganik> keine polish
[14:12] <Kuba> :)
[14:12] <mistiipu> iam following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html done for eth1 (client) eth4 dsl connection. http://pastebin.com/m4bdf9f3a i configured for eth1 and its not working itself. link is up on client. but a cross on computer connection on server.       instead eth2 is working fine.  any help please ???
[14:12] <Loganik> ajm understand
[14:12] <Kuba> ale lipa z tego czata
[14:13] <Kuba> sa tu jakies lalski?
[14:13] <eagles0513875> Kuba: what language
[14:13] <eagles0513875> Loganik | Kuba this is english channel only guys plz go into polish channel linked above
[14:15] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: u using a router or switch
[14:15] <eagles0513875> r u having any dhcp issues with the other machine getting an ip address
[14:16] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 iam using 2 lan cards. seperatly
[14:16] <eagles0513875> on one machin
[14:16] <eagles0513875> e
[14:16] <Loganik> :*
[14:16] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 is my connection giving dhcp... i had static setup before..
[14:16] <Kuba> you're gay
[14:16] <Loganik> im not
[14:16] <Loganik> :P
[14:17] <eagles0513875> its rules guys if u wanna talk in polish go into pl channel didnt know u guys spoke english so cut me some slack
[14:17] <Loganik> slack == dziwka ?
[14:17] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 so what should be done
[14:17] <Loganik> meine english ist kaput
[14:17] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: r these built onto the board nic cards or pci card
[14:17] <eagles0513875> Loganik: now german
[14:18] <eagles0513875> lol
[14:18] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 one is buildin board and one is pci
[14:18] <fabrizio> ciao
[14:18] <Loganik> papa :*
[14:18] <eagles0513875> !it | fabrizio
[14:18] <fabrizio> tankyou
[14:19] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: do u need to use the 2 of them cuz i have a mobo that has both built onto the board and it seems to use only one
[14:19] <eagles0513875> no problem fabrizio
[14:20] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: were u still haveing the same issue with static ips
[14:20] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 eth4 is dsl for server. eth1 is builtin and eth2 is pci.     the client at eth1 is pci and client is builtin for eth2
[14:20] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 no.static was fine
[14:21] <eagles0513875> i noticed the same issue on my desktop machine as well which has to nics built on the board and since i was and still am using dhcp only one works
[14:22] <prateek> hello everybody
[14:22] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: did u go into system settings and make sure it was enabled and that its set to boot at startup and use dhcp
[14:22] <eagles0513875> prateek:
[14:22] <eagles0513875> what up
[14:22] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 if i uninstall dnsmasq (a DNS masquerade as well as a DHCP server) and ipmasq (IP masquerading). . will  the internet sharing stil work for static approach?
[14:23] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: not sure
[14:23] <smeril> what is the install command after using sudo apt-get secure-delete install?
[14:23] <mistiipu> k
[14:23] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 brb
[14:23] <eagles0513875> smeril: what u wanting to delete and install at same time
[14:24] <smeril> i have used sudo apt-get and downloaded the software but how can i acces?
[14:25] <smeril> [sudo] password for smeril:
[14:25] <smeril> Läser paketlistor... Färdig
[14:25] <smeril> Bygger beroendeträd
[14:26] <smeril> Läser tillståndsinformation... Färdig
[14:26] <smeril> Följande NYA paket kommer att installeras:
[14:26] <smeril>   secure-delete
[14:26] <smeril> 0 uppgraderade, 1 nyinstallerade, 0 att ta bort och 0 ej uppgraderade.
[14:26] <smeril> Behöver hämta 67,8kB arkiv.
[14:26] <smeril> Efter denna åtgärd kommer ytterligare 176kB diskutrymme att användas.
[14:26] <SlimeyPete> !paste
[14:26] <smeril> Läs:1 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe secure-delete 3.1-4 [67,8kB]
[14:26] <prateek> hi everybody
[14:26] <smeril> Hämtade 67,8kB på 0s (300kB/s)
[14:26] <smeril> Väljer tidigare ej valt paket secure-delete.
[14:26] <prateek> i have a strange problem in Kubuntu
[14:26] <smeril> (Läser databasen ... 120319 filer och kataloger installerade.)
[14:26] <smeril> Packar upp secure-delete (från .../secure-delete_3.1-4_i386.deb) ...
[14:26] <smeril> Ställer in secure-delete (3.1-4) ...
[14:26] <smeril> smeril@smeril-desktop:~$ secure-delete
[14:27] <smeril> bash: secure-delete: kommandot hittades inte
[14:27] <smeril> smeril@smeril-desktop:~$ secure-delete
[14:27] <smeril> bash: secure-delete: kommandot hittades inte
[14:27] <smeril> smeril@smeril-desktop:~$
[14:27] <smeril> how do i get to the program after this?
[14:27] <smeril> sry
[14:27] <smeril> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10917/
[14:28] <jhutchins> smeril: No clue.  Is that Finnish?
[14:28] <smeril> swedish
[14:28] <eagles0513875> !sw
[14:28] <eagles0513875> !swedish
[14:28] <smeril> the program is installed but how do i open it after install?
[14:29] <eagles0513875> smeril: its best u ask in swedish channel considering the pastbin is in swedish
[14:29] <jhutchins> Usually find it in the menu or enter the program name in the alt-F2 box.
[14:29] <prateek> wheni start kubuntu net doesnt start automatically
[14:29] <prateek> !!!!!!!!
[14:29] <prateek> i need to type these two commands to get right:
[14:30] <SlimeyPete> smeril: try typing "man secure-delete", see what it says
[14:30] <eagles0513875> prateek: u on hardy right
[14:30] <smeril> you dont have to see pastebin i just want to know how to open a program after install
[14:30] <prateek> sudo dhclient eth0
[14:30] <prateek> sudo dpkg --configure
[14:30] <jhutchins> smeril: By pastebin he means what you pasted here, which should have been done in a pastebin.
[14:30] <prateek> NO EAagles...i use gutsy
[14:30] <prateek> eagles can u plz help!
[14:30] <eagles0513875> prateek: im trying dude be patient
[14:30] <eagles0513875> open up system settings
[14:31] <prateekkk> ok
[14:31] <eagles0513875> and click on network settings
[14:31] <smeril> no ma post for secure delete
[14:31] <smeril> man post
[14:31] <prateekkk> yes then
[14:31] <eagles0513875> prateekkk: click on administrator mode
[14:31] <prateekkk> ok
[14:32] <eagles0513875> then click on
[14:32] <eagles0513875> configure interface and click on automatic and start during boot
[14:32] <smeril> sry
[14:32] <eagles0513875> prateekkk: reboot and see if it boots
[14:32] <SlimeyPete> smeril: I googled
[14:32] <smeril> no manual post for secure-delete it says after typing what you told me
[14:32] <prateekkk> well...there is no "configure interface" option
[14:32] <SlimeyPete> smeril: I think it's "srm" for removal
[14:33] <prateekkk> sorry
[14:33] <smeril> thanks
[14:33] <prateekkk> i got it...bt its allready checked
[14:33] <eagles0513875> how r u connected to the net via router and r u on dsl or cable
[14:34] <prateekkk> thnx..eagles...i think it should help
[14:34] <eagles0513875> prateekkk: no problem
[14:35] <prateekkk> can u help me on another front
[14:35] <eagles0513875> ill try
[14:35] <eagles0513875> this is scary food for thought
[14:35] <eagles0513875> http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/05/firefox-infects.html
[14:36] <eagles0513875> prateekkk: ill try dude whats the other front u want me to help you on
[14:36] <prateekkk> eagles0513875: i have a dual boot pc, and hv some folders on Windows Partition, its permissions
[14:36] <prateekkk> are set to be root
[14:37] <prateekkk> i want to change it to my user account (prateek), how do i do it?
[14:37] <eagles0513875> prateekkk: u obviously wanting read and rw permissions on an ntfs partition right
[14:37] <prateekkk> exactly
[14:37] <eagles0513875> !ntfs3g
[14:37] <eagles0513875> prateekkk: thats what u need
[14:37] <prateekkk> but whenever i do it (throught GUI) i get errors
[14:37] <prateekkk> like on closing Dolphin window
[14:38] <eagles0513875> prateekkk: u have ntfs installed right now right
[14:38] <prateekkk> "unable to save bookmarks.."
[14:38] <prateekkk> yes i have ntfs
[14:38] <eagles0513875> 3g
[14:38] <prateekkk> yes
[14:38] <eagles0513875> ok
[14:38] <eagles0513875> do u know how to use command line
[14:39] <prateekkk> ya...little bit..i am a 1st yr electronics engineer
[14:39] <eagles0513875> thats kool
[14:39] <eagles0513875> open up konsole
[14:39] <prateekkk> yup
[14:39] <eagles0513875> im actually working on my linux certification
[14:39] <eagles0513875> u might like my site which is still a work in progress http://howtokubuntu.x10hosting.com
[14:39] <prateekkk> Joomla?
[14:40] <prateekkk> what is linux certification
[14:40] <eagles0513875> lol ya its the template once i finish my exams on thursday week ill be able to work on it
[14:40] <eagles0513875> from linux professional institute
[14:40] <prateekkk> which country?
[14:40] <eagles0513875> u can do it anywhere in world
[14:40] <eagles0513875> http://lpi.org/
[14:40] <eagles0513875> now back to ur problem
[14:40] <prateekkk> India?
[14:40] <prateekkk> yup
[14:41] <eagles0513875> lol u can do it anywhere in the world us europe anywhere
[14:41] <eagles0513875> type cd /etc/
[14:41] <eagles0513875> then type kdesu kate fstab
[14:42] <prateekkk> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-prateek" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[14:42] <prateekkk> Error: "/tmp/kde-prateek" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[14:42] <prateekkk> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-prateek" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[14:42] <prateekkk> i got a file opened too
[14:42] <eagles0513875> close out of it
[14:42] <eagles0513875> u know how to unmount stuff
[14:42] <prateekkk> means?
[14:42] <prateekkk> well....
[14:43] <eagles0513875> nothing i forgot that u need to unmount that partition
[14:43] <prateekkk> ok
[14:43] <eagles0513875> let me know when u have done it
[14:43] <prateekkk> bt it will be mounted on reboot right?
[14:43] <BluesKaj> good day
[14:43] <eagles0513875> ya
[14:43] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: what up g
[14:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's like the fifth time i've seen that error with hardy
[14:44] <eagles0513875> what error
[14:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> with gutsy with was the mounting thing
[14:44] <prateekkk> it has thrown a error
[14:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> "owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0"
[14:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> is the new one
[14:44] <eagles0513875> Daisuke_Laptop: hes on gutsy
[14:44] <prateekkk> Device to unmount in not in /media/.hal-mtan so its not mounted by HAL
[14:45] <BluesKaj> hi eagles0513875 , having some breakfast
[14:45] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: kool what time is it where u at
[14:45] <BluesKaj> 9:45AM
[14:45] <eagles0513875> nice
[14:45] <eagles0513875> +6 hrs here
[14:45] <eagles0513875> prateekkk: open up that thing u had open before
[14:45] <prateekkk> terminal?
[14:45] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: im trying not to throw my other laptop out the window
[14:46] <eagles0513875> prateekkk:
[14:46] <eagles0513875> ya
[14:46] <prateekkk> yyup
[14:46] <eagles0513875> do kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[14:46] <eagles0513875> and ignore what it says in terminal and focus on the file that opens
[14:46] <prateekkk> yup
[14:47] <eagles0513875> is the file open
[14:47] <BluesKaj> uhoh eagles0513875 , what's wrong with the other laptop ?
[14:48] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: bsod error is tdi.sys
[14:48] <eagles0513875> running a repair chkdsk off installationsource
[14:48] <BluesKaj> which OS ?
[14:48] <eagles0513875> vista 64bit
[14:49] <eagles0513875> which has been good to me up till today
[14:49] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 i cant get internet shared
[14:49] <prateekkk> eagles?
[14:49] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 the link on both clients is up.
[14:49] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: ok but u cant share ur connection
[14:49] <eagles0513875> prateekkk: yo ok u have it open now right
[14:50] <mistiipu> but no sharing. i think its with some dhcp thing or sharing
[14:50] <prateekkk> yes
[14:50] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 it works good with static ip approach. i mean it gets up. when i click dhcp option on clients . it goes limited
[14:50] <eagles0513875> prateekkk: u need to write -3g where it says ntfs and then reboot machine
[14:51] <prateekkk> ok
[14:51] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 i have made static connections on 'server' do i need to change them to dhcp too?
[14:51] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: humm i dunno what to tell u have u tried taking out the cable then plugging it back in
[14:51] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: u running a domain
[14:51] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 so?
[14:51] <prateekkk> but i think kubuntu 7.10 has NTFS-3g like something...so why only 3g
[14:52] <eagles0513875> prateekkk: add the 3g where it says ntfs for ur ntfs partition
[14:52] <prateekkk> ok
[14:52] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: u running a domain controller if u r those have to be static for reliability purposes
[14:52] <eagles0513875> if not then try changing it to dhcp
[14:56] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 no working
[14:57] <eagles0513875> then revert to way it was before
[14:57] <mistiipu> how
[14:57] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: any idea here
[14:57] <eagles0513875> wait
[14:57] <eagles0513875> did u change the setting on server
[14:57] <mistiipu> what kind of?
[14:58] <eagles0513875> change it to use dhcp
[14:58] <mistiipu> done that.
[14:58] <mistiipu> next?
[14:58] <eagles0513875> and r u using a router to connect these machines
[14:58] <mistiipu> no. direct nic to nic
[14:58] <BluesKaj> not a vista clue , eagles0513875 unless you partitioned and added a Linux app to the drive then I'd check out Easy BCD
[14:58] <eagles0513875> then make sure subnet and and default gateway r the same on both machines
[14:59] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: lol i cant even get kubuntu installed on there with out headaches
[14:59] <mistiipu> eagles0513875  i think dhcp dont require anything or ip to enter?
[15:00] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 can you tell me what should be the ips gatware on server eth1 ?
[15:00] <eagles0513875> r u trying just to connect these machines to the net or to each other only
[15:00] <mistiipu> iam on server. i need 2 pcs conect to me by 2 dif nics share internet
[15:01] <mistiipu> eth1 eth2
[15:01] <eagles0513875> ok
[15:01] <eagles0513875> get ur server on the net
[15:01] <mistiipu> it is
[15:01] <eagles0513875> now see what its subenet and default gateway r
[15:01] <eagles0513875> and use those for the other nic and machine
[15:01] <mistiipu> my dsl gateway you mean?
[15:01] <mistiipu> imy dsl router ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:01] <eagles0513875> yes
[15:02] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: u sure ur router isnt trying to give out a dhcp address and its conflicting with ur static ip
[15:02] <mistiipu> i should put dns as <IP_ADDRESS> on the clients?
[15:02] <eagles0513875> that would be ur default gateway not dns
[15:02] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 my router does gives dchp
[15:03] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: would u prefer static ips or dynamic
[15:03] <mistiipu> i should put default as <IP_ADDRESS> on the clients?
[15:03] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 static
[15:03] <mistiipu> i should put default gw as <IP_ADDRESS> on the clients?
[15:03] <eagles0513875> ok mistiipu then disable dhcp on ur router
[15:04] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 i cant do that. its my dsl setings
[15:04] <Skrible> Heyy. How can i mount ntfs drive?
[15:05] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 can you tell me the ip settings
[15:05] <mistiipu> ?
[15:05] <eagles0513875> !ntfs3g | Skrible
[15:05] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: what is ur server which has internet access what is its subenet mask
[15:05] <Skrible> I have in fstab the folowing: /dev/sdb1 /media/the\040asema ntfs umask=222,utf8 0 0 but, when i boot my system and try to acces the drive, it says permission denied
[15:06] <eagles0513875> Skrible: do u have ntfs3g installed
[15:06] <Skrible> yep
[15:06] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 iam on server. my router ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:06] <eagles0513875> that is ur default gateway
[15:06] <Skrible> wait.. i'll doublechek
[15:06] <Skrible> it worked earlier, it just stopped working today.
[15:06] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: make sure the subnet mask is something like <IP_ADDRESS> on all machines for subnet
[15:07] <eagles0513875> Skrible: in the fstab where its says ntfs did u add -3g
[15:07] <mistiipu> previously for static ips . i put my server as <IP_ADDRESS> for eth1 and <IP_ADDRESS> for eth2
[15:07] <BluesKaj> Skrible, you've checked system menu/storage media ?
[15:08] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: then ur subnet should be <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:08] <mistiipu> yes.
[15:08] <eagles0513875> for all even on ur 2nd machine that ur trying to get on the net as well
[15:08] <Skrible> eagles0513875: oh.. where do i have to add that?
[15:08] <mistiipu> and <IP_ADDRESS> for eth2
[15:08] <Skrible> BluesKaj: nope. How do i do that?
[15:09] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: that wont work for a subnet mask
[15:09] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: it has to be what i told u <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:09] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 ok. i give up... its very time consuming. how do i revert back?
[15:09] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: ur almost there
[15:09] <mistiipu> ahan..?
[15:09] <mistiipu> so what do ya want me to do
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Skrible, theres' a computer Icon in the panel , click on it choose storage media , see if the windows/ntfs drive is listed
[15:10] <eagles0513875> the subnet mask for all machines should be what i mentioned that means that the 3rd batch numbers in the ip is what changes and nothing else when u have a 0
[15:10] <Skrible> BluesKaj: I've cheked my partitions with fdisk if you mean that
[15:10] <mistiipu> i should set <IP_ADDRESS> as netmask on serveR?
[15:10] <eagles0513875> yes as well as ur 2nd machine and eth2
[15:11] <Skrible> yep it is listed
[15:11] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 then should i go for dhcp?
[15:11] <Skrible> and it says it is disabled
[15:11] <eagles0513875> u can try
[15:11] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 i must repeat. i have 2 diff nics on those 2 eths
[15:11] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 what setting should be on the client side?
[15:12] <eagles0513875> subnet should be the same as the server
[15:12] <eagles0513875> <IP_ADDRESS> adn ip should be something like <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:12] <eagles0513875> and default gateway should be the ip of ur dsl router
[15:13] <mistiipu> ok. dns?
[15:13] <Sylphid|work> Hello, im having a problem with firefox that seems to be specific with kde, radio buttons check boxes and the like are unable to be seen when checked until the item has been unselected (is no longer highlighted)
[15:13] <eagles0513875> what is the dns of ur server set to
[15:13] <eagles0513875> Sylphid|work: same with me dude im guessing ur on firefox3 beta5
[15:14] <Sylphid|work> eagles0513875, yup....
[15:14] <Sylphid|work> eagles0513875, works fine with gnome though
[15:14] <mistiipu> ip on client facing eth1  <IP_ADDRESS> and for eth2 <IP_ADDRESS> would be fine? both having subnet mask <IP_ADDRESS> and def gw <IP_ADDRESS> (my dsl router)
[15:14] <mistiipu> ?
[15:14] <eagles0513875> Sylphid|work: 3 still has alot of bugs to be worked out
[15:14] <mistiipu> eagles0513875
[15:14] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: correct
[15:14] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 what about dns
[15:15] <eagles0513875> let me check something
[15:15] <mistiipu> k
[15:15] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: this is where it gets a lil tricky
[15:15] <eagles0513875> wait no it doesnt under system settings open up network settings on ur server
[15:16] <eagles0513875> under domain name system does it have an ip addresses on the top box
[15:17] <mistiipu> no
[15:17] <eagles0513875> nothing there
[15:17] <Skrible> nah.. i just cannot acces the ntfs
[15:17] <Skrible> even if it is mounted
[15:17] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: leave it blank and see if that works for u
[15:17] <mistiipu> m
[15:18] <joseph> !kmplayer
[15:18] <eagles0513875> !mplayer
[15:18] <mistiipu> not working
[15:18] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 i ll revert
[15:19] <eagles0513875> alright it might be a bug
[15:19] <Skrible> hmm
[15:19] <eagles0513875> amarok 2 is pretty sweet
[15:19] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 ok. i give up... its very time consuming. how do i revert back?
[15:20] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: enable dhcp on ur router
[15:20] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 i already get dchp
[15:20] <eagles0513875> and tell all eth devices to use dhcp to get their ip and set it to automatic
[15:20] <Sylphid|work> eagles0513875, looks like there was a bug reported for the FF3 problem and a workaround here > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/194624/comments/9 .... trying it now
[15:21] <eagles0513875> amarok 2 is sweet
[15:21] <eagles0513875> Sylphid|work: im not bothered about it atm i am in middle of exams and im soon goign to be stripping the os to begin my own os dev after next thursday
[15:25] <Skrible> Nah.. its not working.. :/
[15:29] <Chrysalis> is there a way to move the navigation toolbar (buttons/addressbar/search) at the main menu toolbar like i can in firefox?
[15:29] <Skrible> So yeah. I have this problem. I got ntfs-condig installed, i have ntfs3g and my ntfs drive wont mount
[15:29] <kris__> Hello, can someone tell me how to completly remove compiz+emerald and return to basic kde style
[15:29] <Chrysalis> seems like i can just configure each one but cant move stuff from one toolbar to another
[15:29] <Chrysalis> in konqueror that is
[15:32] <udi> can anyone help with configuring the Logitech G9 mouse on Kubuntu 8.04?
[15:32] <udi> I followed some HOWTO, but it failed
[15:33] <BluesKaj> Skrible, right click on the drive , is there a "mount" option in the dialogbox ?
[15:33] <harris> guys how can I start Gqcam? I already downloaded it, but I can't see it in menu.
[15:34] <Skrible> yeah
[15:34] <Skrible> its not that
[15:34] <Skrible> i know how to mount
[15:34] <harris> guys how can I start Gqcam? I already downloaded it, but I can't see it in menu.
[15:34] <Skrible> or i think i do (it seems i cant do that)
[15:34] <Skrible> it is allready mounted (probably in wrong way) but i cant acces it
[15:35] <kris__> Hello, can someone tell me how to completly remove compiz+emerald and return to basic kde style
[15:35] <Skrible> hmm i thing it is not using the libntfs-3g
[15:35] <Skrible> kris__: use the simple compiz manager
[15:36] <Skrible> simple-ccsm from your command linme
[15:37] <harris> guys how can I start Gqcam? I already downloaded it, but I can't see it in menu.
[15:39] <BluesKaj> Skrible, there's an app called ntfs-config , install that then relogin
[15:39] <harris> help guys how can I start Gqcam? I already downloaded it, but I can't see it in menu.
[15:41] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 how can i revert
[15:42] <BluesKaj> BBIAB
[15:45] <wesley> !puregnome
[15:45] <mistiipu> i followed http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html but it didnt worked for me. how can i revert?
[15:54] <Skrible> BluesKaj: done that
[15:55] <Skrible> i told you, i have _mounted_ my ntfs drive before, and it worked fine. Somewhy it doesnt work anymore..
[15:55] <Skrible> buutt.. im trying something.. lets hope it works :)
[15:59] <Terminator> where exactly do I add for example the auto auth command (/msg<EMAIL_ADDRESS>auth) for quakenet in Konversation??
[16:00] <jabba_> life's a bummer!
[16:01] <Terminator> thanks! :P
[16:06] <jabba_> Terminator: hey, sorry, i forgot this is #help-terminator. what can I do for you?
[16:07] <Terminator> I was wondering were to enter that auto auth command
[16:08] <Terminator> There is this "Commands" thing in server edit
[16:08] <Terminator> but when I enter "/msg<EMAIL_ADDRESS>auth" there it doesnt auth me
[16:08] <jabba_> have you considered, you know, asking the people on quakenet?
[16:09] <[Relic]> Anything on the live cd that would allow me to access and determine if the MBR is good or bad?
[16:09] <jdavies> Terminator: best ask on #quakenet on quakenet
[16:09] <jabba_> [Relic]: grub can tell you that
[16:09] <jabba_> [Relic]: and you can re-frob the mbr from the live cd as well
[16:10] <Terminator> ??
[16:10] <Terminator> I just need info about Konversation
[16:10] <Terminator> in Xchat I can add this to the "perform" list
[16:11] <[Relic]> I've tried grub, that give "GRUB read error" and nothing else, and I have tried lilo and that doesn't load either, thinking it is the poor controller since this HD was working till I put it on this MB
[16:11] <Terminator> I know how to auth
[16:11] <Terminator> just not how to auto-auth in Konversation
[16:11] <jabba_> [Relic]: what's the error number?
[16:11] <Terminator> have been using Ubuntu last few days
[16:11] <Skrible> yeah doesnt work :/
[16:11] <Skrible> f**k!
[16:12] <[Relic]> jabba_: there is no error number
[16:13] <[Relic]> jabba_: "GRUB read error" is all it says
[16:15] <jabba_> [Relic]: are you sure you're pointing to the right partition?
[16:15] <marco__> hi all
[16:15] <dwidmann> Terminator: have you looked at the auto-identify in your user profile in konversation? Maybe it can handle it
[16:15] <jabba_> when you boot, can you use 'e' and edit the boot line and try other partitions?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> Skrible, look in the kmenu for the ntfs-config app , then run it .There will be some options.
[16:15] <marco__> my kdesudo does not work anymore
[16:15] <dwidmann> Terminator: certainly works wonders with nickserv anyhow
[16:15] <marco__> i cannot run any sudo dependant program like adept_manager
[16:16] <dwidmann> marco__: what does it say when you try?
[16:16] <marco__> nothing
[16:16] <marco__> really nothing
[16:16] <BluesKaj> !aptfix | marco__
[16:16] <dwidmann> marco__: even when you run it in konsole?
[16:16] <[Relic]> jabba_: no clue, it appears so, since device.map says  (hd0) /dev/sda  and  root is (hd0,1) since the swap is the first section of the disk
[16:16] <marco__> dwidmann: yes
[16:17] <dwidmann> marco__: whoa ... that's weird
[16:17] <marco__> ubottu: i think it's not locked because i can run apt-get as root from a terminal
[16:17] <jabba_> [Relic]: when i have grub issues, i generally work with it interactive
[16:18] <BluesKaj> marco__, is adept taking your pw ok ?
[16:18] <jabba_> but yeah, using the live cd is probably the best way to get out of it
[16:18] <[Relic]> jabba_: I can't get to GRUB so I wouldn't be able too
[16:18] <Skrible> BluesKaj: well.. i have tried that thousands of times
[16:18] <Skrible> doesnt work. :(
[16:19] <Skrible> plus it wont detect my partition
[16:19] <marco__> BluesKaj: yes, i also did a kdesu -s which unset the password
[16:19] <jabba_> [Relic]: of course you can get to grub
[16:19] <dwidmann> marco__: can you use regular sudo, ie:, sudo echo "blah" would echo blah? or is that malfunctioning also?
[16:19] <jabba_> [Relic]: if you can get to the "grub read error", you can work with it interactively.
[16:20] <Skrible> wtf, BluesKaj quess what
[16:20] <Skrible> its working
[16:20] <marco__> dwidmann: it echo nothing
[16:21] <Skrible> i took ntfs-3g of, and put the folowing to my fstab /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs-sys ntfs ro,dmask=0222,fmask=0333 0 0
[16:21] <dwidmann> marco__: is your user a member of the "admin" group?
[16:21] <[Relic]> jabba_: how do you access it once it is there, since that is the only line that shows up
[16:21] <BluesKaj> Skrible, where did you find that advice ?
[16:22] <marco__> dwidmann: that's maybe the correct problem
[16:22] <marco__> i changed recently my groups
[16:22] <Skrible> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1886.html
[16:22] <Skrible> BluesKaj: but yeah.. im a noob but not pure noob :)
[16:23] <Skrible> (used linux since 03)
[16:23] <Skrible> but still im a noob.. :D
[16:23] <dwidmann> Skrible: how can you get away with calling yourself a linux noob after 8 years?
[16:23] <dwidmann> **5
[16:24] <marco__> dwidmann: it was, thanks
[16:24] <jonathan__> hello!
[16:24] <dwidmann> marco__: ah, good to hear that it's fixed then
[16:24] <jonathan__> does anyone know a program to record voice?
[16:24] <Skrible> dwidmann: because I havent done anythign special with linux
[16:24] <dwidmann> jonathan__: with a microphone
[16:24] <dwidmann> :P
[16:24] <BluesKaj> well congrats Skrible , you fixed it yourself with some smart research ...best way to learn IMO :)
[16:25] <jonathan__> nice idea, but i asked for a program, didn't i?
[16:25] <Skrible> BluesKaj: yeah.. well i always research before asking
[16:25] <dwidmann> Skrible: that doesn't sound very n00b-like
[16:25] <Skrible> dwidmann: and i use mainly windows because I need photoshop and stuff with my work
[16:26] <jabba_> jonathan__: hey, you showed up asking for help, not for a program.
[16:26] <Skrible> but it doesnt make me expert. I'm just able to do some basic stuff
[16:26] <BluesKaj> wow, I'm more of a noob then ...only been doing linux exclusively for 3 yrs , fooled around for 6 yrs before that.
[16:26] <Skrible> that makes more years than i've used linux
[16:27] <dwidmann> I've been on linux for about 3-4 years too ... whenever Mandrake 10 was released anyway
[16:28] <Skrible> I started with mandrake too :D
[16:28] <Skrible> it was way too buggy for me and i changed to debian
[16:28]  * genii hides his RH5 cds
[16:28] <Skrible> i still have debian installed on my laptop
[16:29]  * wirechief-intel hands out achievement medals to old timers
[16:29]  * dwidmann wants a medal too :(
[16:30]  * wirechief-intel hands out battlescar and purple ribbons to newbies
[16:30] <jabba_> wirechief-intel: what counts as "old timers"?
[16:31] <wirechief-intel> well, thats a question we answer ourselfs ;)
[16:31] <dwidmann> I'm only 22, it must not mean me :)
[16:31] <Skrible> im olny 19, it must not mean me either
[16:31] <Skrible> neither*
[16:32] <dwidmann> Darn, now I feel old, give me a bloody medal
[16:32] <jabba_> wirechief-intel: my first unix install was 1993 on a sparc 2 :)
[16:32] <BluesKaj> I tried suse, fedora and mandriva , then debian and that's what caused my move to kubuntu.
[16:32] <wirechief-intel> dwidmann age is not a qualifier, just short or long timer with the battle
[16:32] <JoshOvki> im as old as i feel ;)
[16:32] <jabba_> first linux install was 1996 on a 486-dx4-100
[16:32] <dwidmann> JoshOvki: so how does that make you? 6?
[16:32] <JoshOvki> dwidmann: thats as old as i act ;)
[16:32] <Skrible> BluesKaj: i changed to ubuntu when i was looking for something debian alike
[16:33]  * dwidmann laughs himself red in the face
[16:33]  * wirechief-intel changed to linux to get freedom from windows
[16:33]  * jabba_ kicks amarok
[16:33]  * dwidmann changed to linux because frozen bubble is awesome
[16:34] <jabba_> heh, i never "changed to linux" :)
[16:34] <JoshOvki> lol
[16:34]  * Skrible changed to linux because irssi is awesome
[16:34] <wirechief-intel> but now all i have for metals are bugs and fly swatters.
[16:34] <jabba_> Skrible: you can run irssi on macos too :)
[16:34] <Skrible> and on windows too
[16:34] <Skrible> but lets not talk about that... :D
[16:34] <BluesKaj> I actually got started with knoppix ...I found it uhmmm, intriguing , cuz it was the first linux app that actually connected to the internet without any configging ...was kinda hooked after that
[16:34] <JoshOvki> i changed because
[16:34] <JoshOvki> ...
[16:34] <JoshOvki> i dont know :S
[16:34] <BluesKaj> scuse the pun :)
[16:35] <Skrible> well... I'm born in the same city with Linus Torvalds
[16:35] <jlido> Can someone tell me what I need to do to get firefox2 to find the java plugin?
[16:35] <Skrible> ..and attending the same uni :E
[16:35] <Skrible> muhahaha!
[16:35] <eagles0513875> Skrible: kool
[16:35] <jabba_> Skrible: but do you go to the school RMS teaches at? :)
[16:36] <wirechief-intel> jlido there are all kinds of howtos use google, its probably a symlink that is needed.
[16:36] <Skrible> jabba_: ... do you? :D
[16:36] <jabba_> Skrible: i flunked out of college :)
[16:36] <JoshOvki> jildo: try installing sun-java6-plugin through APT
[16:36] <Skrible> hmm
[16:37] <jabba_> my last semester of high school i got an 0.2 gpa
[16:37] <jabba_> throughout college i got about a 2.0, and was doing autoshop for most of it
[16:37] <jlido> JoshOvki: yup, it's already installed
[16:37] <Skrible> hmm... I live in the same city where first graphical webbrowser was made in
[16:37] <BonesolTeraDyne> !offtopic | jabba_ Skrible
[16:38] <JoshOvki> jlido: run       sudo update-alternatives --config java
[16:38] <jlido> did that too
[16:38] <jlido> picked the java-6-sun java
[16:38] <JoshOvki> restarted FF?
[16:39] <jlido> and I picked the java6 plugin for xulrunner
[16:39] <jlido> yes, I restarted FF
[16:39] <giacomo> !it
[16:39] <mefisto__> jlido: if you make a symlink in ~/.mozilla/plugins to /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so I think it will work. probably have to create ~/.mozilla/plugins first
[16:39] <Skrible> hmm... I was just gonna say that my aunty lives next to mysql author, I've met the developer of irssi and irc... but I wont tell you that..
[16:40] <mefisto__> oops sorry not flashplayer
[16:40] <jlido> no, but I get the idea
[16:41] <jlido> trying that
[16:41] <DexterF> hi
[16:41] <jlido> Well, that worked, but what's up with xulrunner not working?
[16:42] <jlido> thanks for your help with that mefisto__ and JoshOvki
[16:42] <JoshOvki> no problem jlido glad you got it working
[16:47] <BluesKaj> Skrible, Helsinki ?
[16:47] <ct529> hi there! How do I activate root login in kubuntu?
[16:47] <JoshOvki> !root | ct529
[16:48] <ct529> JoshOvki: I know that document
[16:48] <JoshOvki> ct529:  why you trying to root? (just out of curiosity)
[16:48] <ct529> JoshOvki: I want to lohg
[16:48] <rickest> ct529: if you must, you can 'sudo bash' then 'passwd'
[16:48] <ct529> JoshOvki: I want to login at kdm level
[16:49] <ct529> JoshOvki: just because as admin is a bore to have to sudo everything .... I think is an amazingly silly thing ....
[16:49] <ct529> JoshOvki: but I have never enabled it on j
[16:49] <ct529> kubuntu or ubuntu
[16:50] <JoshOvki> ct529: are you using kde4 or 3?
[16:50] <ct529> 3.5.9 on 804 for amd64
[16:51] <sreesai> Anybody having Canon PIXMA iP13000 Printer Driver
[16:51] <JoshOvki> kk, this is me trying to remember because im using kde4  System Settings > Advanced > Login Manager  and in there i think there is somewhere to allow root login
[16:51] <JoshOvki> ct529: have you also changed the root pw?
[16:52] <mefisto__> ct529: http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-and-disable-ubuntu-root-password.html
[16:52] <JoshOvki> or do that ^^^
[16:52] <mefisto__> ct529: not it says there, not recommended
[16:52] <mefisto__> *note
[16:53] <ct529> I have already activated the root user, I want to login in kdm
[16:53] <mefisto__> and its not listed in kdm? what if you type "root" as the user name?
[16:54] <SlimeyPete> root logins are disabled in kdm by default
[16:55] <SlimeyPete> I think you need to edit kdm.conf
[16:55] <mistiipu_> i think i need tc command. i read the man. but it gave me headaches.         i need eth1+eth2=20k/s dl limit and 4k upload       and i dont want any eth user to consume all the trafic (while both eth1 and eth2 are online) and drain bandwidth from the other. any help?
[16:55] <SlimeyPete> ah
[16:55] <SlimeyPete> ct529: http://www.interwebworld.co.uk/9/configuring-kubuntu-for-root-logons/
[16:56] <kamui> is there a way to have apps autolaunch when kdm has initialized?
[16:56] <kamui> I need to run synergy on two machines so that once X is running the client and server are both in daemon mode
[16:56] <ct529> SlimeyPete: thanks a lot! I share what he says very very much
[16:56] <kamui> I have a startup script on each pc, but apparently synergy wont run without X already being launched
[16:57] <kamui> and at login time Its already too late, as I would need a local keyboard to log in without synergy
[16:58] <ct529> SlimeyPete: thanks again! logging out now ...
[16:58] <SlimeyPete> ct529: no problem :)
[17:02] <bam_> Hi. I am having two issues with my newly installed Kubuntu.
[17:02] <mefisto__> kamui: .desktop files in ~/.kde/Autostart will launch after login. you can get a kcontrol gui to configure autostart apps by installing kcontrol-autostart
[17:03] <bam_> One is that when every I install something in synaptic it just hangs at "ldconfig....something" after the installations has been completed.
[17:03] <bam_> And the second is that I cant for the life of me get "Fish://" to work.
[17:04] <bam_> I have a laptop and a desktop which I used to use fish one back when I had kde 3. Now it doesnt wotk.
[17:04] <bam_> *work
[17:04] <DexterF> on upgrade those packages are held back: amarok amarok-xine googleearth mplayer. how do I check why?
[17:04] <JoshOvki> DexterF: might have them open, do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:04] <JoshOvki> should sort that out
[17:05] <mistiipu_>  i followed http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html and its working. but only when firestarter is disabled. why so and how can i share internet while firestater is running ?
[17:06] <bam_> Any one have any ideas?
[17:07] <crash__> I have a 10" peanut butter cookie for the person who can succesfully assist me in doing something with this .patch file for the b43 wireless driver
[17:07] <mefisto__> bam_: the ldconfig message is normal and takes a while to finish sometimes. does it hang forever? maybe try to sudo apt-get install in konsole and see if it's any faster
[17:07] <jabba> i have an external drive mounted on usb, how do i see where it is? it doesn't seem to show up in dmesg
[17:08] <bam_> it does hang forever and when I do apt-get it finishes without any problems.
[17:08] <bam_> It just happens in Synaptic.
[17:08] <DexterF> mistiipu_: ah, you were right
[17:09] <eagles0513875> has anyone one else tried amarok2
[17:09] <martijn81> eagles0513875: i did
[17:09] <martijn81> it worked
[17:09] <eagles0513875> i am not getting audio
[17:09] <eagles0513875> im trying to listen to a stream but its not making any sound
[17:09] <martijn81> eagles0513875: but you can install it aside from amarok1
[17:10] <eagles0513875> ya
[17:10] <eagles0513875> i know and i have
[17:10] <martijn81> hmmm,  weird i just have sound
[17:10] <eagles0513875> u have both amarok 1.4 and 2
[17:10] <martijn81> maybe it is best to ask this in the #amarok channel
[17:10] <eagles0513875> and im on an updated version of the release candidate of kubuntu hardy x64
[17:10] <mefisto__> is amarok2 in repos?
[17:11] <martijn81> eagles0513875: i am too
[17:11] <martijn81> mefisto__: no there is a special repository for amarok2, see kubuntu.org
[17:12] <eagles0513875> mefisto__: its still alpha and u have to have kde4 installed
[17:12] <eagles0513875> to run it on kde3
[17:12] <tuanpham> hi all
[17:12] <martijn81> hi
[17:13] <tuanpham> do you know that, which program i can use to burn cd in kubuntu ?
[17:13] <tuanpham> which is the beast please !
[17:13] <eagles0513875> !k3b | tuanpham
[17:13] <eagles0513875> i use k3b
[17:13] <martijn81> tuanpham: we have k3B for that
[17:13] <tuanpham> thank eagles0513875
[17:13] <martijn81> yup
[17:13] <eagles0513875> no prob
[17:13] <eagles0513875> martijn81: do u have kde4 installed
[17:13] <eagles0513875> to be able to run amarok 2 on kde3
[17:14] <martijn81> eagles0513875: yup, i downloaded the kde4 version of kubuntu hardy
[17:14] <martijn81> so i miss a lot of kde3 packages
[17:14] <ct529> SlimeyPete: thanks it works
[17:14] <Mimi> Hello, is there a way I can automount my ntfs usb drive  so that  I dont have to, everytime i want  to listen to my music? >.>
[17:14] <eagles0513875> martijn81: i didnt cuz kde4 still lacks huge amnts of functionality
[17:15] <eagles0513875> like deleting stuff of desktop
[17:15] <crash__> b43 driver patches? anyone?
[17:16] <tuanpham> and do you know somes are like norton ghost ?
[17:16] <dwidmann> But some of the apps are > their kde3 counterparts, so no reason not to use apps that fall into that category ... such as konqueror (yes and no), dolphin (yes), kget, many of the games, and so on and so forth :)
[17:16] <eagles0513875> crash__: if u do dmesg it tells u a link to where to get the firmware
[17:16] <tuanpham> i want to restore my image file (maked form norton ghost 11)
[17:16] <eagles0513875> martijn81: how do u change certain sound settings
[17:16] <tuanpham> do you know any ?
[17:16] <tuanpham> hi tung
[17:17] <tung> hi
[17:17] <tuanpham> viet nam ?
[17:17] <athlon1> kbuntu 8.04. The first time i access media devices, i'm asked for password. how can i disable it?
[17:17] <tung> yeah
[17:17] <Mimi> /
[17:17] <Mimi> "
[17:17] <Mimi> oops
[17:17] <crash__> eagles0513875: what do I need with the firmware?
[17:18] <tuanpham> some one can help me ?
[17:18] <eagles0513875> crash__: i have a bcm4306 and the firmware that comes with hardy doesnt seem to work
[17:18] <tuanpham> ghost program :(
[17:19] <dwidmann> tuanpham: I'm not familiar with norton ghost (I know the name and that's all), but you migh be able to restore the image by dd'ing it to the partition, I don't know if that will work though.
[17:19] <rambo3> what should be permission of .kde ?
[17:19] <Mimi> on your home folder?
[17:20] <dwidmann> rambo3: at the very least the 'u' part of the permission needs to be rwx, the others don't matter
[17:20] <rambo3> yes
[17:20] <crash__> eagles0513875: Ah I see. Miscommunication. The card works for standard use. Im trying to add some specific functionality, and I dont know what to do with this .patch file
[17:20] <tuanpham> thank dwidmann
[17:20] <tuanpham> i think it imporsible
[17:20] <Mimi> rambo3:     owner (you)  all permissions for you, none for others
[17:21] <dwidmann> tuanpham: and files need to be 'rw', the 'x' isn't required for the files, only for the folders
[17:21] <rambo3> thats 700
[17:21] <Mimi> rambo3:   i think     drwx------
[17:21] <yoce> hello
[17:21] <tuanpham> :) i have noproblem with rw file
[17:22] <eagles0513875> crash__: sry dude im no help
[17:22] <eagles0513875> crash__: im sure someone in here will be able to assist u
[17:22] <dwidmann> :s sorry tuanpham, meant rambo3 ... but yeah, 700 is fine for folders rambo3, and 600 is fine for files
[17:22] <crash__> No cookie for you then. :)
[17:22] <rambo3> hmm .kde is owned by root
[17:22] <rambo3> i know i am right
[17:22] <dwidmann> crash__: but but but ... COOKIES!!!
[17:22] <athlon1> Please, can anyone tellme  how? kbuntu 8.04. The first time i access media devices, i'm asked for password. how can i disable it?
[17:22] <martijn81> eagles0513875: sorry i was out for coffee, but i have no idea, i guess i just live on the bleeding edge
[17:22] <crash__> Its all good. Ive found that dwidmann and stdin are the uber guru's to ask. I shall await one of them.
[17:23] <rambo3> i use sudo generator .
[17:23] <rambo3> http://www.meine-erste-homepage.com/chmod-generator.php
[17:23] <eagles0513875> what is up with all kubuntu server
[17:24] <dwidmann> crash__: usually patches are applied with the diff or patch commands ... I'd need to look it up to be honest.
[17:24] <eagles0513875> ol i dont mind testing this is my test and dev laptop but right now its nnot lol need a functioning machine to run java and netbeans so i can practice for my exam martijn81 my vista laptop is on the fritz
[17:24] <dwidmann> crash__: this is where I would look though, and it seems there are some solid results: .html - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
[17:25] <dwidmann> crud
[17:25] <eagles0513875> ?
[17:25] <dwidmann> http://www.google.com/search?q=diff+patch+linux&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 @ crash__
[17:25] <eagles0513875> u ok dwidmann
[17:25] <dwidmann> No, I'm not okay, I'm CRAZY.
[17:25] <eagles0513875> whats wrong
[17:25] <tuanpham> :D
[17:25] <tung> @tuanpham:what is the problem with your ghost image?
[17:25] <tuanpham> i have an image maked by norton ghost 11
[17:26] <tuanpham> i want to use kubuntu for retoring this image
[17:26] <tuanpham> i don't know any soft to use it
[17:26] <martijn81> tuanpham: that is probably because there is none
[17:26] <tuanpham> what's wrong with you dwidmann ?
[17:27] <dwidmann> tuanpham: like I said, I'm crazy :P
[17:27] <tung> as far as I know you can use a boot cd to restore the image
[17:27] <tuanpham> but why
[17:27] <dwidmann> I've no idea.
[17:27] <dwidmann> lack of sleep?
[17:27] <tuanpham> i know that you are very kind here
[17:27] <tuanpham> help every alot
[17:28] <athlon1> tuanpham, if you like, you can restore it into a virtual machine. Is that what you want? In that way, you can use both operating systems at the same time....
[17:28] <tuanpham> ah
[17:28] <tuanpham> my virtual box can't rung :(
[17:28] <dwidmann> tuanpham: you probably need to use norton to restore that image though ... but in the future you could use something like partimage in place of norton ghost
[17:29] <athlon1> You can restore it with VMWare. Norton Ghost (i've tested with ghosh 12) can convert it to VMWAre machine.
[17:29] <athlon1> VMWare server if free.
[17:29] <mefisto__> tuanpham: http://dailycupoftech.com/2008/05/06/free-or-open-source-imaging-solutions/ is a list of disk cloning software, partimage and others
[17:29] <athlon1> VMWare server is free.
[17:29] <tuanpham> i got error 1908 :(
[17:30] <tuanpham> thank mefisto__
[17:30] <tuanpham> i am trying
[17:30] <rambo3> whats a good launcher like awant are there
[17:31] <dwidmann> tuanpham: keep in mind for the future that these things are rough equivalents of norton ghost available freely for *nix --- partimage, g4u, and mondo
[17:32] <tuanpham> athlon1: what do you mean ?
[17:33] <athlon1> That it's possible to run one machine inside another (virtualization). i'm running some windows machine inside my Kubuntu. I made an image with ghost9 and restored them with ghost 12.
[17:34] <tuanpham> i know the virtualization
[17:34] <tuanpham> but mean free with vmware
[17:34] <tuanpham> can we setup vmware wrokstation on kubuntu ?
[17:35] <dwidmann> tuanpham: yes, but it'll cost you $200 or so
[17:35] <tuanpham> i only knew the virtual box
[17:35] <dwidmann> IIRC
[17:35] <tuanpham> :P
[17:35] <dwidmann> tuanpham: vmware-server is fre, though.
[17:35] <athlon1> You cand download VMWare Server from the web page. In ubuntu 8.04 is a bit more difficult to install, but follow this stpes and it will work.
[17:35] <tuanpham> i don't know what vmware - server does ?
[17:35] <dwidmann> tuanpham: same thing, different feature set, I think
[17:36] <tuanpham> dwidmann: can it make a virtual machiner  ?
[17:36] <dwidmann> tuanpham: yes.
[17:36] <dwidmann> tuanpham: as many as you want
[17:36] <athlon1> Yes, it's possible.
[17:37] <tuanpham> thank
[17:37] <tuanpham> i will try it now
[17:37] <dwidmann> I haven't used it in about a year, but I had Kubuntu Breezy through Feisty installed in virtual machines for testing purposes
[17:37] <tuanpham> ho can i get and install it ?
[17:38] <tuanpham> could i use konsole ?
[17:38] <athlon1> Download vmware sever from www.vmware.com. And for Kubuntu, follow this steps:
[17:38] <athlon1> http://peterc.org/2008/62-how-to-install-vmware-tools-on-ubuntu-hardy-804-under-vmware-fusion.html
[17:38] <tuanpham> thanks both
[17:38] <dwidmann> athlon1: does that how-to make note of the any-any patch? It might be necessary.
[17:39] <athlon1> Sorry, forget previous link. read this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=fb70f1f022b23e2903f67cd6d95f8906&p=4357442#post4357442
[17:39] <tuanpham> okay
[17:41] <jco> hi, if someone tried it, how is the 64 bits version of 8.04? Does it lack much software? Does it work without major problems compared to the 32?
[17:41] <dwidmann> jco: I haven't noticed any missing software or problems whatsoever
[17:42] <athlon1> tuanpham. In one computer VMWare work with the first link i've put to you, But in another i followed sencond link.
[17:42] <jco> dwidmann: do you mean that all the software in the 32 bit repositories has been ported to 64 bits?
[17:43] <athlon1> do yo want more details?
[17:43] <dwidmann> jco: the difference in number of packages is very, very, very small, and none of them are things I use.
[17:44] <dwidmann> obscure things, proprietary things, are the only things that might require more than the usual amount of effort
[17:44] <jco> dwidmann: great, I can't almost wait the download to finish :)
[17:45] <jco> isn't there a netinstall by the way? I didn't find it...
[17:45] <rambo3>  proprietary like Qt used to be
[17:46] <rambo3> !install
[17:46] <dwidmann> I think there is, but I've never actually tried to do a netinstall :s
[17:46] <dwidmann> rambo3: ancient history
[17:47] <rambo3> i always used netinstall for debian. 9 MB .
[17:49] <jco> no there's no netinstall, at least not what I had in mind
[17:49] <genii> debbootstrap can be made to do same thing as netinstall
[17:49] <dwidmann> !install
[17:49] <dwidmann> hmmm
[17:49] <jco> but there's the "Minimal CD", I'll try that one
[17:49] <jco> sounds good
[17:50] <rambo3> is that serverinstall
[17:51] <da> testing
[17:51] <jco> rambo3: what I usually do (with another distro) is to boot a kernel, and the initrd will download the root image from the web
[17:53] <genii> jco: debbootstrap will put only a kernel and some essential files. Then you can add in some network info and install whatever you normally could from a commandline
[17:53] <genii> So kubuntu-desktop or so
[17:53] <jco> genii: and where do I download that ISO?
[17:53] <genii> jco: There's no iso
[17:54] <jco> genii: oh, I think that's why I didn't find it :)
[17:56] <Deepthought> testing
[17:57] <jco> anway, I'm already in the "minimal cd" install
[17:58] <genii> jco: You can get an idea of how to use it from this guys page: http://www.cs278.org/blog/ubuntu-configuration/feisty-debootstrap-encrypted-install/                 Although that specific tutorial is for an encrypted fs under 7.04   but the debootstrap process he uses remains the same
[17:59] <crash__> righto
[17:59] <crash__> think Im gonna go for a distro change, see if there are some better drivers out ther
[18:00] <genii> Deepthought: test results report we need to construct another computer to acquire the answer
[18:01] <stefan-f> Hello all :)
[18:01] <Deepthought> genii: I am working on that computer as we speak; decided on KDE today; there's the 4, now still looking for the 2-factor...
[18:02]  * JoshOvki yawns
[18:02] <stefan-f> since today I have problems with network settings, cause they are gone, and when I set them in system mangament
[18:03] <stefan-f> I installed only the updates today
[18:03] <stefan-f> Im switchin between manuall in firm and dhcp in hotel
[18:04] <stefan-f> can someone reproduce this?
[18:05] <jco> genii: is debbootstrap what's used to install from the live CD?
[18:05] <dwidmann> stefan-f: knetworkmanager has been pretty quirky in hardy
[18:06] <stefan-f> ahh!
[18:07] <stefan-f> also with the new kernel my sound is away and the machine doesnt halt, so I have to use an older kernel
[18:07] <stefan-f> ....
[18:08] <stefan-f> this are things Im asuming at M$
[18:11] <jco> wow, is swap really mandatory to install the system?
[18:11] <jabba> jco: why would you run without swap?
[18:12] <jco> jabba: cause I have plenty of ram and never swap, and if it has to swap, it will slow down
[18:12] <KomiaPoika> hi
[18:12] <jabba> jco: wrong
[18:12] <mistiipu> i followed http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html and its working. but only when firestarter is disabled. why so and how can i share internet while firestater is running ?
[18:12] <jco> jabba: I don't remember seeing something swap in some time now
[18:12] <jabba> also wrong
[18:12] <jabba> let me find the article for you
[18:12] <jabba> stby
[18:13] <KomiaPoika> i'm downloading kubuntu 804 kde4 remix. is there a way to create encrypted lvm at install?
[18:13] <dwidmann> jabba: probably for the same variety of reason that I run without swap :P
[18:13] <jco> jabba: if I'm wrong, vmstat is wrong too...
[18:13] <dwidmann> KomiaPoika: only if its the text-based install cd
[18:13] <dwidmann> KomiaPoika: live cd won't work
[18:13] <KomiaPoika> dwidmann: i am downloading kubuntu-kde4-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso from europe mirror
[18:13] <KomiaPoika> full install cd
[18:14] <jco> jabba: at work, a colleague told me that we should use twice the space of the amount of ram as swap and found me a good article about that
[18:14] <jabba> http://kerneltrap.org/node/3202
[18:14] <jabba> short story: swap is good for you.
[18:14] <jco> jabba: btw, it was dated a few years ago..
[18:14] <dwidmann> KomiaPoika: looks like that is robably the livecd ...
[18:14] <jco> jabba: your article is 2004 btw, i'm reading
[18:15] <jabba> jco: just fyi, unix is, oh, almost forty years old.
[18:15] <dwidmann> KomiaPoika: the livecd can't do lvm/raid/encrypted installs.
[18:15] <jco> jabba: yes, but Linux is not
[18:15] <jabba> jco: what is it they call linux? a, uh "unix-like operating system?" i can't remember.
[18:16] <jco> jabba: the VM has changed dramatically just in the last months
[18:16] <jabba> jco: if you must, just configure swap, and then remove it after the install.
[18:16] <KomiaPoika> dwidmann: where can i find text install cd?
[18:17] <jco> jabba: I work intensly on Solaris, and Linux is just another thing, sorry to say
[18:17] <jco> jabba: unix like is not unix
[18:17] <KomiaPoika> dwidmann: should i use alternate installcd?
[18:17] <jabba> jco: if you say so.
[18:17] <dwidmann> KomiaPoika: yes.
[18:17] <jabba> tell that to sco/ibm.
[18:18] <KomiaPoika> dwidmann: thank you.
[18:18] <jco> ...???... ok, you're right
[18:18] <francopai> where is XMMS for install in kubuntu 8?
[18:18] <stefan-f> !ksynaptics
[18:23] <mistiipu> i followed http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html and its working. but only when firestarter is disabled. why so and how can i share internet while firestater is running ? 2nd it was sharing internet. i rebooted all pcs. and its not sharing now. why so?
[18:25] <JoshOvki> mistiipu: why so is because firestarter is a firewall and you havnt told it to allow the connection through
[18:26] <mistiipu> JoshOvki yes. and how do i tel it?
[18:26] <KomiaPoika> !ksynaptics
[18:26] <KomiaPoika> !icanhandlethetruth
[18:26] <JoshOvki> mistiipu: do you know how to create rules?
[18:27] <mistiipu> yup.
[18:27] <mistiipu> abit with fs. the policy thing
[18:27] <dwidmann> KomiaPoika: ksynaptics (and qsynaptics also) have been replaced by touchfreeze, you can find it's source on sourceforge.net as it isn't packaged yet.
[18:27] <mistiipu> allow inbound outboound things JoshOvki ?
[18:27] <JoshOvki> mistiipu: yeh allow both to your internal ip range
[18:28] <mistiipu> JoshOvki it dont accept a * in range.
[18:28] <jco> is the linux-image-amd64 kernel only AMD or is it just a name for the 64bit kernel?
[18:29] <JoshOvki> use  <IP_ADDRESS>/24   will allow   1 - 24   etc
[18:29] <mistiipu> JoshOvki and do i have to allow both inbound and outbound. and do have to allow client ip of the server ip?
[18:29] <dwidmann> yayayayayay my parts got here :)
[18:29] <mistiipu> JoshOvki ill use <IP_ADDRESS>/16?
[18:30] <JoshOvki> mistiipu: yes inbound and outbound because they need to send requests out and recive data
[18:30] <JoshOvki> mistiipu yeh that should do it
[18:30] <tinel> hi all, i have a big trouble with my wireless connection, after 1 or 2 hours since the activation stops working, lspci says:03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[18:30] <tinel> anyone can help?
[18:31] <mistiipu> joschan my eth1 2 are <IP_ADDRESS>   <IP_ADDRESS>  and clients <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> respectivly
[18:31] <dwidmann> tinel: you'll need to switch to the iwl3945 driver instead of the ipw3945 driver problaby. I'll dig up the thread
[18:32] <JoshOvki> mistiipu: have you also enabled the internet sharing option?
[18:32] <tinel> yes
[18:32] <mistiipu> JoshOvki no. i use http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html because firestater only allows one eth to share at one time
[18:32] <mistiipu> i have 2
[18:34] <mistiipu> JoshOvki so?
[18:34] <JoshOvki> mistiipu: oh i see, your computer is working as the through connection
[18:34] <dwidmann> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-595060.html | tinel
[18:34] <mistiipu> JoshOvki ya i am server. other 2 pcs share throug me. iam eth4
[18:34] <mistiipu> eth 1 2 share
[18:34] <JoshOvki> you will have to allow the clients through. if they have static ip's for added security just allow them particular ones
[18:35] <mistiipu> ok.
[18:36] <mistiipu> JoshOvki i added client ips in inbound allow policy
[18:36] <mistiipu> JoshOvki what elsei need to do?
[18:36] <JoshOvki> mistiipu: so your connection is something like this: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/pics/complexnat.png ?
[18:37] <mistiipu> joschan no. i dont have a hub/switch.   i have to interfaces. two nics . 2 pcs to share.  third one is me.
[18:37] <mistiipu> JoshOvki if i had a switch. and one interface to share. i would have dont that by firestarter built in option.
[18:37] <mistiipu> as fs allows only one at a time
[18:37] <mistiipu> JoshOvki what else i need to do?
[18:37] <JoshOvki> mistiipu: allow inbound connections too
[18:38] <dwidmann> whoa .. nice, this hdd came in a silky smooth drawstring bag o.O
[18:38] <JoshOvki> dwidmann: fancey
[18:39] <dwidmann> WD have outdone themselves
[18:39] <mistiipu> JoshOvki ok
[18:39] <mistiipu> JoshOvki anything else?
[18:39] <JoshOvki> no that "should" do it
[18:40] <mistiipu> JoshOvki oh i told you before. i added client ips in inbound allow policy
[18:40] <mistiipu> JoshOvki anything else?
[18:40] <eagles0513875> seems like kde 4.0.4 has been added to repos
[18:40] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 did you missed me?
[18:41] <JoshOvki> mistiipu: if you have allowed the clients both inbound and outbound it should work
[18:41] <dwidmann> eagles0513875: it was in there like .... the night before last
[18:41] <mistiipu> JoshOvki ok.
[18:41] <eagles0513875> really lol
[18:41] <eagles0513875> just installed kde4 to get amarok 2
[18:41] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 my case is solved. it was firestarter that was blocking sharing.
[18:42] <eagles0513875> firestart ?? care to fill me in
[18:42] <mistiipu> JoshOvki its permisive by default...(outbound)
[18:42] <JoshOvki> kk
[18:43] <JoshOvki> mistiipu: have you tryed it?
[18:44] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: firestart is ur firewall
[18:44] <mistiipu> JoshOvki its not working.
[18:44] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 yes. firestarter
[18:44] <JoshOvki> darn it
[18:44] <JoshOvki> need to setup NAT then, not sure how with firestarter
[18:44] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: well thats a my bad on my part then
[18:44] <marcel_> gd'evening
[18:45] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 not at all. you help very nice
[18:45] <eagles0513875> thanks firewall slipped my mind entierly
[18:45] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 but what can be done now. why is fs not allowing conect sharing
[18:45]  * marcel_ is downing hardy kubuntu for the 1st time
[18:45] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 me too
[18:45] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: y networksharing y not just hook ur other machine directly to ur router
[18:46] <marcel_> I always used a gnome distro
[18:46] <marcel_> like redhat, and later ofcourse ubuntu
[18:46] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 nops.  i like that way. dont want to get in mess any more
[18:46] <eagles0513875> mistiipu: it wont
[18:47] <marcel_> but now on my Delly-Latitude D810 it seems to go very fast
[18:47] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 i wana route it by my pc
[18:48] <marcel_> It'll take me atleast a monthj to get used to the gui
[18:48] <khaije1> hey uh, is it possible to run eclipse under icedtea?
[18:48] <khaije1> i don't wanna have a bunch of redundant jvm's if i don't need 'em
[18:49] <marcel_> on the other 2/4 desktops it's upgfrading from 7.04 to 8.04 i386
[18:51] <eagles0513875> is something wrong with all kubuntu servers today in regards to updated pkgs
[18:51] <eagles0513875> its uber sluggish
[18:51] <mistiipu> JoshOvki
[18:52] <JoshOvki> mistiipu: its all about NAT's in firestarter now, which i know zilch about
[18:52] <mistiipu> zilch ?
[18:53] <JoshOvki> means nothing
[18:53] <marcel_> alice??
[18:54] <marcel_> aah alice-dsl
[18:54] <jhutchins_wk> eagles0513875: Depends on the server.
[18:54] <eagles0513875> seems like they all r sluggish
[18:54] <eagles0513875> at least the ones im using
[18:54] <JoshOvki> mistiipu: it sounds like you have a very very odd setup
[18:55] <eagles0513875> jhutchins_wk: how do i find out which ones im downloading from
[18:56] <genii> jco: Sorry for lag, work required me. To answer your earlier question, no, debbootstrap is not what's used to install from the live cd
[18:56] <packjam> laater
[18:56] <jhutchins_wk> !REPOS
[18:57] <jco> genii: ok, but it's not clear to me how why you suggest debbootstrap to install a system with no OS on it instead of a netinstall CD, I'm sorry
[19:01] <eagles0513875> jhutchins_wk: it seems like all the defualt installed repos r uber slow
[19:01] <ek> Hrm. I've just noticed something very strange.
[19:02] <ek> With KNetworkManager, doing a "Manual Configuration" it doesn't pick up any of the changes.
[19:02] <ek> ... Ever.
[19:02] <eagles0513875> ?
[19:02] <ek> So, according to KNetworkManager, I am not connected to the internet at all.
[19:02] <ek> Yet, here I am. And ifconfig shows everything is properly working.
[19:02] <mistiipu> eagles0513875 JoshOvki i required  ipmasq
[19:03] <ek> In fact, if I hover over the KNetworkManager in the taskbar, it says it is still using my old DHCP address.
[19:03] <eagles0513875> ahhh gotcha
[19:03] <ek> Quite strange.
[19:03] <eagles0513875> see if a bug has been reported
[19:03] <unholyskorn> EK i had the same problem
[19:03] <unholyskorn> just upgrade to the new kubuntu
[19:03] <ek> eagles0513875: Well, I've been browsing around online for a moment to find out if anyone else had the same issue.
[19:04] <ek> unholyskorn: This is 8.04 Hardy.
[19:04] <unholyskorn> hmm...thats wierd
[19:04] <ek> unholyskorn: Indeed.
[19:04] <unholyskorn> is it the developer version?
[19:04] <ek> My AMD64 version at home works fine.
[19:04] <unholyskorn> cause thats what happened to me, i had the dev version and as soon as it was released everything stopped working
[19:04] <ek> unholyskorn: Not that I'm aware of. Although, it was actually upgraded from 7.10 Gutsy.
[19:05] <ek> Maybe a fresh install would fix it. *shrugs*
[19:05] <unholyskorn> Yeah
[19:05] <[B5C]wallabee> i like the random freezes of kde4 on my laptop ;) more time to smoke
[19:05] <jhutchins_wk> eagles0513875: Yeah, they might be hosting something else that just released or something.  Be sure to try ones that aren't local too.  It's not the miles, it's the megabytes.
[19:06] <ek> unholyskorn: But, more than anything, I would say this is a bug in KDE and not (K)Ubuntu itself.
[19:06] <ek> It doesn't really bother me all that much. It's just strange.
[19:06] <ek> If I jump back to DHCP, it'll work just fine too.
[19:06] <ek> Show all the stats and everything.
[19:06] <eagles0513875> normally im able to dl at decent speeds jhutchins_wk
[19:06] <ek> That is, if it acquires the same address I guess.
[19:06] <unholyskorn> yeah all mine was doing was when i had the dev version, as soon as the thing was released mine stopped working i dunno
[19:07] <eagles0513875> jhutchins_wk: im thinking everyone wants to test amarok2-nightly alpha
[19:07] <ek> unholyskorn: Hrm. Okay. Well, thanks for letting me know it wasn't just me. :P
[19:07] <scarygary> Evening..
[19:07] <jhutchins_wk> eagles0513875: Most of the mirrors host a LOT of projects, other distros, etc.
[19:07] <eagles0513875> ek: post a bug and unholyskorn confirm it
[19:07] <eagles0513875> jhutchins_wk: gotcha
[19:08] <unholyskorn> K, now for me...anyone know why its taking me 30 minutes to download a 5M file from adept?
[19:08] <eagles0513875> u see jhutchins_wk its not only me
[19:08] <scarygary> unholyskorn: Shitty wireless connection?
[19:09] <unholyskorn> im on 20mbps hard line cable
[19:09] <unholyskorn> and if i boot into windows and download anywhere its fine
[19:09] <eagles0513875> and im on 2mbps cable line
[19:09] <eagles0513875> unholyskorn: even through command line same issues
[19:09] <unholyskorn> it took me a cup of coffee and a shower to download konversation
[19:09] <scarygary> unholyskorn: Crappy driver?
[19:10] <unholyskorn> Nic driver? no pretty sure if the dev version of kubuntu worked fast, the release should?
[19:10] <eagles0513875> im on release client
[19:10] <eagles0513875> which has been upgraded
[19:10] <unholyskorn> im on a brand new 8.04 release hardy remix
[19:10] <scarygary> unholyskorn: Ping and traceroute the host you're downloading from then.
[19:11] <unholyskorn> just installed it
[19:11] <eagles0513875> there is a bottle neck in the system somewhere
[19:11] <unholyskorn> us.kubuntu.main or something lolz
[19:11] <eagles0513875> where do u check
[19:12] <jhutchins_wk> You guys can google "speed test" and you'll find ways to make sure it isn't your system that's slowing the download.
[19:12] <scarygary> eagles0513875: netstat?
[19:12] <unholyskorn> i'm speed testing over 20mbps down and 3mbps up
[19:12] <unholyskorn> speakeasy.net/speedtest
[19:12] <eagles0513875> i am on 2down 256up
[19:12] <ek> unholyskorn: Aren't the repos having issues still?
[19:13] <ek> unholyskorn: Change your repo sources from http: to ftp: and see if that helps.
[19:13] <unholyskorn> I don't know, thats what im asking
[19:13] <ek> Bbiab. Time to do a new install on a new server! \o/
[19:14] <scarygary> Does anyone know how to transfer files to and from a Windows Mobile device through a usb cable?
[19:15] <[B5C]wallabee> theres a prog wmhdd or just look at www.xda-developers.com
[19:15] <scarygary> wmhdd sounds about right..
[19:16] <unholyskorn> momma raised a hellraiser
[19:16] <[Relic]> best I can tell installing 8.04 64bit screwed up the MBR,  anyway to fix this?
[19:16] <jonathan__> hello!
[19:16] <jonathan__> I've a big problem :(
[19:16] <JoshOvki> !hello
[19:17] <jonathan__> i tried to activate the transparenz and shaddows under window-behaviour in kubuntu
[19:17] <[B5C]wallabee> http://wm5torage.en.softonic.com/windowsmobile sorry its called wm5storage
[19:17] <jonathan__> then i've shaddows, that works fine
[19:18] <chemist109> Relic: what are the symptoms?
[19:18] <jonathan__> but every text on the display is overlayed with black stripes and the remeaning graphic-output is very bad: windows don't disapear when closing, even text appeared out of nowhere on my display...
[19:19] <jonathan__> does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:23] <scarygary> wm5torage doesn't seem to work in Windows mobile 6.1 pro
[19:25] <eagles0513875> how does one setup their own repo with official kubuntu pkgs
[19:25] <[B5C]wallabee> it works on wm6.1 qtek9000
[19:25] <scarygary> Hmm.. Can you give me a direct link i can use in the phone?
[19:25] <scarygary> This is a HTC Polaris
[19:26] <[B5C]wallabee> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359621
[19:28] <[B5C]wallabee> or this one wm5storage 1.8 http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/WM5torage-8397.shtml
[19:30] <scarygary> wm5torage 1.8 didn't even install..
[19:31] <[B5C]wallabee> hm i have wm5starage 1.78 with ranjus wm6.1 rom installed and it works
[19:31] <[Relic]> chemist109: only thing I got when it would try to load was GRUB read error
[19:31] <chemist109> [Relic]: When you try to start windows?
[19:32] <[Relic]> chemist109: I don't have windows
[19:33] <chemist109> [Relic]: What is the error code you get?
[19:34] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[19:34] <[Relic]> chemist109: all I get is "GRUB read error"
[19:35] <chemist109> [Relic]: Do you know what stage it gets to?
[19:36] <[Relic]> chemist109: it doesn't, that single line is the only thing I got, I am sure the MBR got screwed up since a few other utils I tried couldn't get a decent reading on it so I need to figure out how to repair it
[19:37] <chemist109> You might try this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/19553
[19:37] <giacomo> !it
[19:38] <scarygary> I managed to install wm5torage now.. Probably a broken file b4.
[19:40] <[B5C]wallabee> k
[19:44] <[B5C]wallabee> anyone tried kde4 on travelmate 4002wlmi?
[19:45] <[B5C]wallabee> only black screen white screen or freezed screen after login
[19:46] <scarygary> [B5C]wallabee: It's working, but i'm getting a lot of io errors in the log.
[19:46] <scarygary> It's unbearably slow too..
[19:47] <[B5C]wallabee> on a tm 4000?
[19:47] <scarygary> tm?
[19:47] <scarygary> htc polaris
[19:47] <[B5C]wallabee> travelmate
[19:47] <scarygary> Travelmate? Nope..
[19:47] <scarygary> HP minitower
[19:48] <GuiBlanco> ASUS G1S
[19:48] <GuiBlanco> very unstable when I tried Beta 2
[19:48] <[B5C]wallabee> don't know what i should do
[19:48] <GuiBlanco> use KDE3
[19:48] <GuiBlanco> =)
[19:49] <n00b> hi :)
[19:49] <[B5C]wallabee> jep but wanted to try kde 4
[19:49] <[B5C]wallabee> ;)
[19:49] <n00b> i just installed kde4
[19:49] <GuiBlanco> [B5C]wallabee: try to put vesa as graphic card and 800x600
[19:50] <GuiBlanco> maybe you get it because of your video card
[19:50] <[B5C]wallabee> i will try it
[19:50] <weswh-> i tried to use Envy to install the nvidia driver on my system. I have a pcie 16 gforce 9600. it says it can't find a driver for the model etc...should i manually try one of them?
[19:50] <[B5C]wallabee> video card is a ati radeon 9700 mobility
[19:50] <nat2610> where can I find some mirror for the apt-tools ? right now, I m getting my pkg from us.archive.ubuntu.com but its so slow !
[19:51] <weswh-> nat2610: heh, good question...
[19:52] <GuiBlanco> [B5C]wallabee: when I tried kde4... I was unable to load the nvidia-glx-new... i had to stick with nv driver
[19:53] <GuiBlanco> it worked while the other not...
[19:53] <GuiBlanco> but the system presented me pretty unstable
[19:53] <GuiBlanco> ok.. I admit I tried the beta 2... but it was buggier than I expect
[19:53] <GuiBlanco> so I reinstalled kde3
[19:53] <mefisto__> nat2610: have you tried the "select best server" button in adept > manage repositories ?
[19:54] <scarygary> [B5C]wallabee: usbhdd worked great!
[19:54] <[B5C]wallabee> ;)
[19:55] <scarygary> I take that back. The files got corrupted.. Wtf?!
[19:55] <spykedtomato> hi everyone - does someone know the commandline form of the restricted drivers manager? My ati card is giving me crap and I can only get gui from failsafe mode so far...
[19:56] <ilembitov> Hi, all. I want to switch to Kubuntu KDE4. Will I be able to export my Evolution account to KMail? Including attachments and all letters
[19:57] <scarygary> ilembitov: Evolution runs fine in KDE.
[19:57] <Agate> hey
[19:57] <ilembitov> scarygary: I know, but I wouldn't like to keep my GNOME software under KDE for integration's sake and things like that
[19:57] <Agate> is it posible to use hotmail in kmail?
[19:57] <nat2610> mefisto__: are there an equivalent with apt-* or I have to install aptitude ?
[19:58] <mefisto__> spykedtomato: jockey-kde
[19:59] <mefisto__> nat2610: don't know. but don't you have adept installed?
[19:59] <spykedtomato> mefisto__: thanks - now I know where the problem is - something's not restistering as far as my ATI card goes - it's not listed at all in jockey :(
[19:59] <spykedtomato> *registering
[19:59] <n00b> my screen just turned completely gray :s
[19:59] <mefisto__> spykedtomato: is it supported by the proprietary driver?
[19:59] <Alumin> how can I change the applications that get called when I plug in, say, a USB key drive?
[20:00] <spykedtomato> mefisto__: radeon 9550 - should be
[20:00] <spykedtomato> afaik
[20:00] <nat2610> I can execute adept_installer  adept_manager    adept_notifier   adept_updater
[20:00] <n00b> exit
[20:00] <Alumin> y'know, like it wants to "open in file manager" aka Dolphin, "do nothing", etc
[20:00] <alberto> hi to everyone, but is somebody aware if there are any problems with hidd and hardy? I can't get my bluetooth mouse to work at all (and it worked good in gutsy with no problem)
[20:00] <nat2610> does it mean that it's installed ?
[20:00] <nat2610> mefisto__: i just find it in the menu
[20:00] <Alumin> I would like to get it to use Krusader for the file manager instead of Dolphin
[20:00] <spykedtomato> mefisto__: i had it running no problem in gutsy, but the change to hardy somehow made the driver go back to mesa :-/
[20:01] <Alumin> in fact, getting KDE to always use Krusader for its file manager would be an even better solution
[20:01] <monkeybritches> You can always uninstall Dolphin
[20:01] <mefisto__> spykedtomato: did you run it with kdesudo?
[20:02] <Agate> is hotmail suported in kmail?
[20:02] <spykedtomato> mefisto__: you mean jockey? yeah, i ran it both as sudo and user, there's nothing in the list at all - no components
[20:02] <spykedtomato> mefisto__: WARNING: modinfo for module fglrx failed: modinfo: could not open fglrx: No such device
[20:02] <Alumin> monkeybritches: that might be one way to do it...but I was hoping to be able to edit the menu, that way I could go in and add other options too if I wanted
[20:03] <mefisto__> spykedtomato: btw, it should be in kmenu > system > Hardware Drivers
[20:03] <giacomo> !it
[20:03] <spykedtomato> mefisto__: I have no kmenu - I can only get a decent gui in failsafe mode
[20:05] <spykedtomato> mefisto__: I only have konsole open - and now irc 'cause I remembered "konversation" ;)
[20:05] <venik> after I reboot. I go into the terminal mode-- no gui.  I tried sudo /etc/init.d. kdm start but I am told that kdm is already running   (8.04)
[20:05] <devin_> where is the kmail program's launch icon?
[20:06] <venik> any ideas?
[20:06] <parkin_> !virtualbox
[20:06] <devin_> I can't find it anywhere in the kde menu (and it isn't in the internet applications list thingy)
[20:06] <parkin_> im looking for a guide how to set up virtualbox in kubuntu
[20:06] <parkin_> the guides for ubuntu does not work
[20:06] <[B5C]wallabee> works now seems that my vid driver was the prob
[20:07] <giacomo> !it
[20:10] <ScorpKing> isak_: /j kubuntu-offtopic
[20:10] <isak_> wa tik ek dit in?
[20:11] <ScorpKing> isak_: /j kubuntu-offtopic
[20:11] <venik> I am told: kinit: No resume image, doing normal reboot
[20:11] <ScorpKing> isak_: click hier #kubuntu-offtopic
[20:11] <venik> how do I recover from that?
[20:12] <ScorpKing> venik: that's used in suspend or hybernate i think. ignore it
[20:12] <mefisto__> devin_: Kontact is in kmenu, or you could edit kmenu and create a kmail item
[20:12] <gangalee> what's the command line for System Tools->New Login ?
[20:12] <venik> but I have no gui....
[20:12] <venik> it is in terminal mode
[20:12] <venik> which is not why I switched to kubuntu
[20:12] <ScorpKing> venik: any other errors?
[20:13] <venik> something about UUID, and failure to get the resume image
[20:13] <isak_> SKORPKING dit werk ni
[20:14] <ScorpKing> isak_: sien jy die tabs onder in konversation net bo die status bar?
[20:14] <Armagguedes> hey
[20:14] <Armagguedes> where do i go to in order to activate nvidia's drivers?
[20:14] <Armagguedes> using kubuntu stock drivers, why do games like war§ow and sauerbraten run at <1FPS? even tux racer's fracked...
[20:14] <mefisto__> Armagguedes: kmenu > system > Hardware Drivers
[20:15] <isak_> Skorpking > ek da
[20:15] <venik> when I type: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start (after stopping it), it says: Starting K display manager: kdm.  but it lies...
[20:15] <venik> kdm never starts
[20:15] <venik> I hate it when the OS lies
[20:16] <venik> xp works just fine on this same hardware
[20:16] <mefisto__> venik: has this install worked previously?
[20:16] <[B5C]wallabee> i think i will wait for kde 4.1 final ;)
[20:17] <venik> yes-- I upgraded from 7.10, and the upgrade went fine
[20:17] <Armagguedes> mefisto__, do you reckon the games crawling is related to the drivers?
[20:17] <mefisto__> Armagguedes: quite possible, I think
[20:18] <venik> I shall try sudo aptitude upgrade, in despair
[20:18] <LaserJock> what do people use to change touchpad (synaptics) settings in KDE?
[20:18] <mefisto__> venik: it might just be that the upgrade replaced your xorg.conf
[20:19] <venik> maybe-- I have not rebooted since the upgrade
[20:19] <venik> maybe I have to (again) steal the xorg.conf from the ISO cd
[20:20] <Alumin> you can get a new config by running "X -configure"
[20:20] <Alumin> probably won't be optimized, but it should at least get you something that starts
[20:21] <pm2> I'm running Kubuntu Hardy, using kernel version 2.6.22 on an Acer laptop.  I'm having a problem where the computer will, every couple minutes, start to lag for several seconds.  Generally, I might not be able to open/save files, browse to websites, etc; but I'd still be able to switch windows, etc.  Then, after a few seconds, everything goes back to normal.
[20:21] <mefisto__> venik: if you boot in recovery mode (from grub menu) it will boot, then give you a second menu with option to fix X -- that might be an easy fix
[20:21] <venik> no, stealing the xorg from the ISO cd has worked in the past
[20:21] <pm2> I see the following in dmesg - any ideas: http://dpaste.com/48884/
[20:21] <monkeybritches> Try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[20:22] <venik> yes, I like that one...  I shall try that
[20:22] <venik> I think you need to type: sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:23] <ScorpKing> pm2: i have the sam problem on 7.10 but only in one user account. no idea why that's happening though
[20:23] <pm2> odd
[20:23] <[B5C]wallabee> is there a rep to upgrade to 4.1 alpha?
[20:23] <sigma_> whats the linux equivalent of the microsoft server system? that active directory thing that handles logins and logouts
[20:25] <Pici> sigma_: LDAP?
[20:26] <sigma_> Pici: yeah that sounds familiar, does it have any gui or do i have to fiddle around in command line?
[20:26] <Pici> sigma_: I'm not sure how to use it in Linux, but you can read this:
[20:26] <Pici> !ldap
[20:27] <sigma_> thanks
[20:29] <L0stadm1n> dose kubuntu run on xfree86 or x.org
[20:29] <L0stadm1n> i need to know for videocard update.  there updater said it couldnt
[20:29] <L0stadm1n> auto detect the x server ty/oe-
[20:30] <L0stadm1n> ~type
[20:30] <weswh-> x.org
[20:30] <L0stadm1n> thanks
[20:39] <Itaku_> !lamp
[20:39] <weswh-> which command shows me the available devices in my system? (trying to find out where my RAID array is showing up, so that I can mount it)
[20:42] <spykedtomato> hi again everyone - I REALLY need help with my graphics card - i have an ATI Radeon 9550 - as far as I can see everything's in order with xorg.conf but when I try to log into kde3 or kde4 I get a screen that's VERY... well almost fractal. I'm now (again) logged in failsafe mode and about to rip all my hair out - help!! :)
[20:42] <spykedtomato> oh - i'm using hardy
[20:43] <mefisto__> spykedtomato: did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg not help?
[20:43] <adelino> good evening
[20:44] <spykedtomato> mefisto__: that always gives me problems - but I'll try it now... should i "use kernel framebuffer device interface"?
[20:44] <elliott> in gutsy, when I used sudo, all my environment variables were brought with me, so that they were available as root, but that doesn't happen anymore. Is there a way to enable it again?
[20:44] <mefisto__> spykedtomato: back up your current xorg.conf if you want it
[20:44] <elliott> in hardy, it doesn't happen
[20:45] <spykedtomato> ok
[20:45] <p_quarles> elliott, sudo -E
[20:45] <mefisto__> spykedtomato: but I think the reconfigure thing makes a backup anyway
[20:46] <spykedtomato> mefisto__: ok - i'll let you know how it goes - I'm sure to have questions about some of the questions that are asked ;)
[20:46] <mistiipu>  iam following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html done for eth1 (client) eth4 dsl connection. http://pastebin.com/m4bdf9f3a i configured for eth1 and its not working itself. link is up on client. but a cross on computer connection on server.       instead eth2 is working fine.  any help please ???
[20:47] <spykedtomato> mefisto__: it only asked questions about my keyboard - is that normal?
[20:47] <adelino> i have problmen with configuration of ati pro rage 3d
[20:47] <Odd-rationale> can amarok of kaffeine play spx files?
[20:48] <mefisto__> spykedtomato: I think so, haven't used it in a while
[20:49] <spykedtomato> mefisto__: ok, i just checked out xorg.conf - there's NOTHING specific about my graphics card
[20:50] <spykedtomato> section "monitor" identifier "configured monitor" - stuff like that
[20:51] <mefisto__> spykedtomato: no Section "Device" ??
[20:52] <spykedtomato> mefisto__: yes, it just says - Identifier "configured video device"
[20:53] <weswh-> mefisto__: do you know the command that will allow me to identify which device location my RAID array is? i was thinking it was something like lspci
[20:54] <elliott> p_quarles: that pulls in for most of the, but for some reason my PYTHONPATH variable isn't bing brought in, and that's the one I need
[20:56] <spykedtomato> mefisto__: is it too early to restart? I'm getting tired of failsafe mode lol
[20:56] <mefisto__> spykedtomato: is there a 'driver' line?
[20:56] <spykedtomato> mefisto__: no
[20:56] <spykedtomato> mefisto__: just that one line in the device section
[20:57] <mistiipu>  iam following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html done for eth1 (client) eth4 dsl connection. http://pastebin.com/m4bdf9f3a i configured for eth1 and its not working itself. link is up on client. but a cross on computer connection on server.       instead eth2 is working fine.  any help please ???
[20:58] <mefisto__> spykedtomato: I would try booting in recovery mode, then after it's booted, choose 'xfix', then reboot normally
[20:58] <kamik> hi
[21:00] <spykedtomato> mefisto__: recovery mode... isn't that the same as failsafe mode?
[21:00] <elliott> in gutsy, when I used sudo, all my environment variables were brought with me, so that they were available as root, but that doesn't happen anymore. Is there a way to enable it again in hardy? someone said to use -E with sudo, ut that only pulls in some of the variables
[21:01] <weswh-> hmm, just can't find this command
[21:02] <weswh-> not sure what to look for. searching for "list mountable devices"...but i'm not sure that's exactly what it is
[21:02] <weswh-> i just know that at the bottom of the readout it shows you all of the drives, and where they are as far as kubuntu is concerned in /dev
[21:03] <mefisto__> spykedtomato: when computer starts, before boot, the list of kernels should have something like "Ubuntu kernel 2.6.xxxx-generic (recovery mode)
[21:03] <weswh-> i'm remebering something maybe with "ax"? ps -ax...i don't know.
[21:04] <GuiBlanco> zubin: you there?
[21:07] <Itaku_> i need help with lamp i went through the whole page but doesnt work
[21:07] <GuiBlanco> Itaku_: what's your issue?
[21:08] <Itaku_> it just doesnt work
[21:08] <jonathan__> hello!
[21:08] <jonathan__> does anyone of you know a good alternative to kopete?
[21:08] <Itaku_> i go to a php site on the host
[21:08] <Itaku_> and it asks to download
[21:08] <jonathan__> maybe miranda?
[21:08] <GuiBlanco> Itaku: which packages have you installed?
[21:08] <weswh-> jonathan__: that's IM right?
[21:09] <Itaku> all the ones it told me to on the doc of LAMP
[21:09] <GuiBlanco> jonathan__: gaim
[21:09] <mefisto__> weswh-: ls /dev/sd*   does that give you what you want? or you need some detail?
[21:09] <GuiBlanco> Itaku: which doc... can you provide me the URL?
[21:09] <Itaku> mysql-server libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql php5
[21:09] <Itaku> i installed those
[21:09] <Itaku> oh and apache2
[21:10] <weswh-> jonathan__: Pidgin (to my knowledge gaim became pidgin possibly over trademark etc.)
[21:10] <weswh-> but, good stuff.
[21:10] <ScorpKing> Itaku: do you go to http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ ?
[21:10] <weswh-> mefisto__: ahh....ls, not ps...
[21:10] <Itaku> it asks to download install.php
[21:10] <jonathan__> yes
[21:10] <jonathan__> ok i will try it!
[21:10] <Itaku> wait
[21:10] <Itaku> i was going from http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ not http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[21:11] <Itaku> works on <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:11] <mistiipu> how to limit bandwith for an ip or eth interface by tc comand?
[21:11] <jonathan__> hm in the repros there are gaim AND pidgin...
[21:11] <weswh-> hmm, wait...nah that isn't what i was going for
[21:11] <jonathan__> which is the better one?
[21:11] <GuiBlanco> Itaku: if it works in your localhost
[21:11] <ScorpKing> Itaku: :) the problem is the ip then
[21:11] <GuiBlanco> then that's a config issue
[21:11] <GuiBlanco> not lamp issue
[21:11] <weswh-> this will say "Seagate SG3207200 - dev/sda1" etc..very verbose
[21:12] <GuiBlanco> if your're under a router... adjust the port 80 to your local ip
[21:12] <weswh-> (and this is an ata100 array...so it would read as hd, right?)
[21:12] <jonathan__> you can't access your files on your pc via your ip-adress, only over localhost or <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:12] <jonathan__> but others usually can access the files via the ip-adress
[21:12] <jonathan__> thats a problem many people have
[21:12] <Eternal_Witness> Bonjour à tous !
[21:13] <crash__> ok. Im being told that the software problems Im having can be  fixed by upgradng my kernel to .25 or .26
[21:13] <GuiBlanco> jonathan__: gaim is the Gnome version of Kopete... afaik it has almost the same features
[21:13] <crash__> How does one accomplish duch?
[21:13] <crash__> such
[21:14] <jonathan__> ok thank you
[21:14] <crash__> !kernel
[21:15] <GuiBlanco> btw, for video libs mantainers... I still have an issue with dvd playback in my os
[21:19] <Mimi> Hello does anyone know how to make a NTfS USB  drive mount at BOOT time?
[21:19] <jimmy51vinsky> !fstab | Mimi
[21:20] <Mimi> YES I know.
[21:20] <Mimi> But it doesn't work. Im wondering if theres a specific way
[21:20] <PhilRod> Mimi: what do you currently have in your fstab?
[21:21] <Mimi> #UUID=55D123D9E79ABF54 /media/USB\040Drive ntfs-3g defaults,force,users 0 0  (followed the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=461042
[21:23] <crash__> does apt-get and adept package manager both use the same sources.list ?
[21:23] <Mimi> Ofcourse
[21:24] <PhilRod> Mimi: doesn't the # comment out the line?
[21:24] <mefisto__> weswh-: sudo fdisk -l  -- is that it?
[21:25] <Mimi> yes Philip5         i have it commented out currently because it didnt work
[21:25] <weswh-> mefisto__: ha, was just coming back into the channel to tell you that :)
[21:25] <weswh-> finally found it on a 'how to install second hard drive' thing
[21:25] <Itaku> wow i found a bug with apt-get...
[21:26] <mistiipu> how to limit bandwith for an ip or eth interface by tc comand?
[21:26] <mistiipu> isnt there a a simple one comand for an ip to limt a bandwidth? please. give me a solution to limit band. i cant do a simple task .. i hope there would be a easy app. a gui i dont have to read many pages for just one command
[21:26] <mistiipu>  a mere comand for limiting band
[21:26] <jonathan__> where can i find the history in pidgin
[21:26] <jonathan__> ??
[21:26] <jonathan__> i mean in which folder?
[21:26] <Mimi> in the anceint fossils of big daddy pidin
[21:27] <weswh-> it's hidden away so that SO's don't gain access to incriminating chat
[21:27] <Mimi> SO ?
[21:27] <weswh-> heh, significant other
[21:27] <weswh-> that was to jonathan__, sorry
[21:28] <Mimi> lol.... *rolf* my bf woudlnt even be able to LOGIN, let alone find find any hidden folder
[21:28] <weswh-> oh..you got that. heh
[21:28] <weswh-> can't login to kubuntu? let's talk about upgrading to a more relevant bf ;)
[21:29] <Mimi> But I like that it hides stuff I dont want my daddy and mommy to see... if only they knew im seeing this older guy ive been sending pics too.. oh bunny
[21:29] <weswh-> lol
[21:29] <Mimi> pfft my bf is the awesome
[21:29] <mefisto__> Mimi: sudo apt-get install bf-upgrade
[21:29] <mefisto__> :)