[08:18] <bruenig> ooh
[08:18] <bur[n] er> hanasaki: my bad, depends on your association
[08:18] <olkalau> shiester_miester, can you please help me with installing a scanner. Model Benq Scanner 5000BL. Im running Ubuntu 6.06
[08:18] <hanasaki> hehe bur[n] er
[08:18] <Anoninon> bur[n] er: not really, it's the best way to burn cds IMHO.
[08:18] <shiester_miester> olkalau, no, i cant
[08:18] <kkathman> is there any way in evolution to change the color scheme ?
[08:18] <bur[n] er> cdrecord gives no pretty ouput or other things that people expect
[08:18] <shiester_miester> olkalau, i dont know how to install scanners :P
[08:18] <defrysk> hanasaki, if its a rewritable cdrdao blank and try again
[08:18] <hanasaki> well ithink there is something misconfigured... since i get the error on writting...;
[08:18] <bur[n] er> kkathman: your gtk theme
[08:19] <Anoninon> I'm pretty sure the GUI versions use cdrecord or other CLI tools as their backend anyhow.
[08:19] <shiester_miester> for some reason nobody has mentioned the fact that this is all way OT
[08:19] <shiester_miester> why is that?
[08:19] <olkalau> paganjew, can you please help me with installing a scanner. Model Benq Scanner 5000BL. Im running Ubuntu 6.06
[08:19] <bur[n] er> hanasaki: you could try gnomebaker or k3b
[08:19] <kkathman> bur[n] er:  without changing the theme ??
[08:19] <godlygeek> If anyone is interested, an article about how much easier it is to learn to use a commandline than a gui: http://www.osnews.com/story.php/6282/The-Command-Line--The-Best-Newbie-Interface/page1/
[08:19] <bur[n] er> kkathman: nope
[08:19] <kkathman> ahh ok
[08:19] <paganjew> olkalau, you want to check out xsane
[08:19] <shiester_miester> usually i get told off for discussing something OT pretty much straight away :P
[08:19] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: it's late ;)
[08:20] <paganjew> godlygeek, ty i already know it but its good to have references
[08:20] <godlygeek> shiester_miester: it's not really OT...  it's discussing the relative strengths and weakness of ubuntu, which seems ontopic to me.
[08:20] <olkalau> paganjew, Can i get Xsane to run any scanner or i have to get a model specific?
[08:20] <Anoninon> I setup remote desktop on Ubuntu 6.06 , now I'm trying to connect to it on another Ubuntu 6.06, but it's not working. I get no errors. the command line tools just set there.
[08:20] <defrysk> godlygeek, its off topic
[08:20] <bur[n] er> olkalau: check out "flegita" it's a gnomeified scan utility
[08:20] <godlygeek> defrysk: why?
[08:20] <paganjew> olkalau, you need a driver for the scanner
[08:20] <shiester_miester> godlygeek, yeah thats a good point, although we were really arguing about guis vs command lines
[08:20] <shiester_miester> but anyway
[08:20] <defrysk> godlygeek, nothing is being discussed here , this is a help channel
[08:20] <shiester_miester> arguing about arguing is definitely OT ;)
[08:20] <macogw> olkalau: a lot of 'em will work.  hp print/scan/copy are a good choice if youre looking to buy a scanner
[08:20] <bur[n] er> olkalau: short answer about xsane, yes it should work
[08:21] <bruenig> it is offtopic for sure
[08:21] <paganjew> macogw, he already has one
[08:21] <Anoninon> remote desktop ! anyone here used it successfully !?
[08:21] <godlygeek> ah, fair enough.  on that note, anyone know of a way to be notified when the backlight turns on or off?
[08:21] <shiester_miester> ok now back to my original question, which of those ways of running linux in windows would you guys recommend as being superior?
[08:21] <bruenig> so come to OT
[08:21] <olkalau> paganjew, the driver it came with was for windows
[08:21] <shiester_miester> wait...i mean running windows in linux
[08:21] <macogw> paganjew: i just um walked in
[08:21] <godlygeek> shiester_miester: vmplayer
[08:21] <shiester_miester> that sounds like a media player, lol
[08:21] <bruenig> shiester_miester, they are all very similar
[08:21] <defrysk> shiester_miester, also off topic
[08:21] <Ayabara> anyone using the Strigi search in Gnome?
[08:21] <shiester_miester> yes yes, ok
[08:21] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: virtualbox is fast and easy... vmware works well too, but it's more proprietary and less free, though bridged networking via vmware is uber easy
[08:21] <macogw> paganjew: i was on #ubuntu-installer explaining all the issues ive had and asking if there's any other debugging anything i can do to figure out wtf is wrong
[08:22] <gordonjcp> I've never got a scanner to work in Linux yet
[08:22] <gordonjcp> but then again
[08:22] <paganjew> shiester_miester, it makes me feel very sad that you want to run linux in windows
[08:22] <Vaske_Car> is there a way to manipulate with .PSD files in Ubuntu?
[08:22] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: qemu is slow and to be avoided... even with the kqemu kernel
[08:22] <shiester_miester> paganjew, i dont
[08:22] <paganjew> Vaske_Car, gimp
[08:22] <bur[n] er> Vaske_Car: gimp?
[08:22] <macogw> Vaske_Car: is that photoshop?
[08:22] <shiester_miester> paganjew, i want to run windows in linux
[08:22] <Anoninon> macogw: yes
[08:22] <macogw> Vaske_Car: if its a photoshop file, gimp
[08:22] <hanasaki> gnomebaker says "Cannot open SCSI driver!"
[08:22] <gordonjcp> a) I've never tried very hard to get a scanner to work in Linux, and b) I'm not sure my scanner works at all
[08:22] <Vaske_Car> GIMP can not edit them, it only open the.
[08:22] <paganjew> macogw, no its gimp but yes its like photoshop but better
[08:22] <Anoninon> Be warned, the gimp may not show your PSD correctly.
[08:22] <Vaske_Car> Its PhotoShop yes
[08:22] <gordonjcp> Vaske_Car: yes it can
[08:23] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: paganjew: running windows in linux is sad too :)
[08:23] <Jakobsen> Oh my.. When I start xserver-xgl, it starts with a wrong keyboard layout, and the superkeys does not work :(
[08:23] <gordonjcp> Vaske_Car: if it's CMYK you may have problems
[08:23] <macogw> paganjew: no gimp uses .xcf
[08:23] <shiester_miester> bur[n] er, its sadder when i cant PRINT
[08:23] <paganjew> Vaske_Car, then saveas something else xcf
[08:23] <gordonjcp> Vaske_Car: but if it can open them, it can edit them
[08:23] <hanasaki> brb
[08:23] <Protege> Is there anyone here who is experiencing this problem with firefox? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/86477
[08:23] <paganjew> GIMP
[08:23] <Anoninon> God this is like #i-am-a-linux-newbie
[08:23] <shiester_miester> bur[n] er, windows can print, linux currently does not
[08:23] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: get an hp ;)
[08:23] <jerbear> i'm trying to add a script to /etc/acpi/resume.d but it fails because the X display isn't available. it's running after everything else. what could be the problem?
[08:23] <gordonjcp> Vaske_Car: you need to save in compatibility modde
[08:23] <gordonjcp> -d
[08:23] <shiester_miester> bur[n] er, or i could just download some free software
[08:23] <paganjew> Anoninon, absolutely what did you expect :)
[08:23] <macogw> paganjew: unless we're crossing things...i was asking if .psd is a photoshop file because i recognize it, but on windows i was a paint shop pro user which makes me want to ask if the gimp can take paintshop pro files
[08:23] <shiester_miester> rather than spending money to buy something to replace something else that should work in the first place
[08:24] <godlygeek> so, i can cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state to find out if the lid is closed... is there any way to find out if the backlight is on or off through the proc filesystem, or a quick c program to query the backlight module, or something?
[08:24] <paganjew> macogw, it should recognize it and be able to import it
[08:24] <Truman_> paganjew: SSH Is like magic :)
[08:24] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: what kind of printer?  sure it doesn't work?  check the wiki by chance... many printers are there
[08:24] <ImLukeEkblad> mongolai: Back
[08:24] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, welcome back
[08:24] <shiester_miester> bur[n] er, i printed in windows about 2 hours ago
[08:24] <shiester_miester> bur[n] er, canon ip1000
[08:25] <ImLukeEkblad> mongolai: thanks
[08:25] <lkthomas> hey guys, I remove sources.list by accident, how could I recover the default sources.list ?
[08:25] <paganjew> macogw, i just imported a psd file so yes it works
[08:25] <Truman_> paganjew: Now what would I activate to get it to switch back to metacity/gnome from beryl through the command line?
[08:25] <jerbear> i'm trying to add a script to /etc/acpi/resume.d but it fails because the X display isn't available. it's running after everything else. what could be the problem?
[08:26] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, now can you make a new pastebin  with /var/log/Xorg.0.log   ?
[08:26] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersCanon
[08:26] <Jude> lkthomas: try searching the default file for your machine from google
[08:26] <shiester_miester> bur[n] er, i didnt mean to imply that it CANT work, i just said that it doesnt
[08:26] <paganjew> Truman_, metacity --replace
[08:26] <macogw> paganjew: psd is photoshop.  im asking if paintshop files work...and omg wtf jasc sold paintshop pro to corel?
[08:26] <Jakobsen> Oh my.. When I start xserver-xgl, it starts with a wrong keyboard layout, and the superkeys does not work :(
[08:26] <shiester_miester> obviously its entirely possible to make it work
[08:26] <ImLukeEkblad> ok
[08:27] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: right on... just trying to persuade you against virtualizing windows for printing when you could run pure and clean ubuntu ;)
[08:27] <macogw> paganjew: i guess i dont have to worry about it though as i dont have windows on which to run psp anyway
[08:27] <macogw> if psp was ported to linux id be very happy
[08:27] <paganjew> macogw, no wories corel sucks and has sold out to microsoft anyways, what is the extension  for paintshop?
[08:27] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: not so obvious on this one it seems :\
[08:27] <paganjew> macogw, cool
[08:27] <shiester_miester> bur[n] er, i would much prefer to do it in ubuntu, thanks a lot for giving me this wiki
[08:27] <macogw> paganjew: idk i was just trying to look it up when i found that it was sold to corel
[08:27] <bur[n] er> shiester_miester: np... good luck :)
[08:28] <Truman_> paganjew: Looks like the remote computer is still running beryl
[08:28] <paganjew> Truman_, you tried "metacity --repace" ?
[08:28] <paganjew> Truman_, excuse me s/repace/replace
[08:28] <macogw> with an l
[08:29] <shiester_miester> bur[n] er, the files that it tells me to download are missing :( i get a 404
[08:29] <berent> what is the AI suite support that mobos put nowadays and why have serial ports gone ?
[08:29] <Truman_> yeah, it says "metacity lost its connection to the display....",
[08:29] <bruenig> Vaske_Car, what is this
[08:29] <Truman_> paganjew: tried beryl --replace and now the remote computer is angry
[08:29] <Jakobsen> How can I change my keyboard layout when running xserver-xgl, and make my superkeys work?
[08:30] <Jud1> lkthomas:
[08:30] <paganjew> Truman_, you are almost there, i don't use a GUI i use a CLI command line interface but it should work
[08:30] <shiester_miester> bur[n] er, http://www.sumardi.net/2006/08/24/ip1000-driver-for-ubuntu/
[08:30] <shiester_miester> give this to other people if they ask the same question :P
[08:30] <makuseru> hi, i was trying to 'make' somthing and it said "Package 'libxml-2.0', required by 'compiz-cube', not found" so i did a "sudo apt-get install libxml-2.0" and it said "Package 'libxml-2.0', required by 'compiz-cube', not found", how can i get this package?
[08:30] <Truman_> paganjew: K, I'll keep at it
[08:31] <paganjew> Truman_, almost there
[08:31] <Jakobsen> How can I change my keyboard layout when running xserver-xgl, and make my superkeys work?
[08:31] <ImLukeEkblad> mongolai: sry, hold on
[08:31] <shiester_miester> makuseru, cross your fingers and click your heels together three times while closing your eyes and saying "there's no place like home. there's no place like home. there's no place like home..."
[08:32] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, ok
[08:32] <makuseru> shiester_miester: no need to be rude with people just trying to get help
[08:32] <shiester_miester> i already made a pre-emptive apology
[08:32] <bruenig> Vaske_Car, what the hell
[08:32] <Jakobsen> AM I INVISIBLE OR WHAT???
[08:32] <Vaske_Car> ??
[08:33] <bruenig> Jakobsen, I can't see you
[08:33] <berent> shiester_miester : that was a good exercise :-) really.
[08:33] <bruenig> can anyone else see him?
[08:33] <jerbear> i'm trying to add a script to /etc/acpi/resume.d but it fails because the X display isn't available. it's running after everything else. what could be the problem?
[08:33] <mongolai> Jakobsen, no one knows. that's all
[08:33] <bruenig> Vaske_Car, what is this logo4.psd nonsense
[08:33] <shiester_miester> berent, what?
[08:33] <Jakobsen> bruenig, nobody is answering me :(
[08:33] <ImLukeEkblad> mongolai:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28761/
[08:33] <paganjew> bruenig, i cant see him
[08:33] <Jakobsen> mongolai, okay thanks..
[08:33] <Vaske_Car> bruenig, im trying to send to another guy not sure how you get it?
[08:33] <robby> just scp <dir/file> <1p/hostname>:<newfilename>
[08:33] <bruenig> paganjew, me neither how weird
[08:33] <shiester_miester> Jakobsen, that could possible mean that they just dont know how to help you?
[08:33] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, Ok. Just a minute...
[08:33] <defrysk> !patience | Jakobsen
[08:33] <ubotu> Jakobsen: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:33] <Truman_> Jakobsen: I can see you
[08:33] <paganjew> bruenig, maybe its the weather ?
[08:33] <bruenig> paganjew, maybe do you hear the wind?
[08:34] <berent> shiester_miester : close eyes cross fingers and kicking heels . where did you learn it.
[08:34] <Jakobsen> Okay, you can stop now.. I just had to make sure you could see me..
[08:34] <Jakobsen> That's all..
[08:34] <shiester_miester> its from the wizard of oz, you silly man
[08:34] <paganjew> bruenig, maybe, oh no thats the AC
[08:34] <bruenig> I see a blank line in the irc log
[08:34] <shiester_miester> didnt you ever read/see/hear about the wizard of oz!?
[08:34] <bruenig> maybe that is him
[08:35] <paganjew> shiester_miester, pink floyd :)
[08:35] <paganjew> dark side of the moon
[08:35] <Jud2> lkthomas: rpm     [JPackage]  http://jpackage.sourceforge.net rpm free
[08:35] <shiester_miester> what does that have to do with childrens fairy-tales
[08:35] <berent> shiester_miester : just now
[08:35] <zenfool> :s
[08:35] <paganjew> haven't you watched wizard of ozz with dark side of the moon ?
[08:35] <paganjew> shiester_miester, your missing out
[08:36] <shiester_miester> nope, i dont really like pink floyd or red hot chilli peppers or any of that generation of bands :P
[08:36] <bruenig> if the album had better guis
[08:36] <fishy> Hey, what's the command for the terminal-based system monitor? Where it lists all the processes?
[08:36] <macogw> that's not the same generation of bands
[08:36] <shiester_miester> bruenig, LMAO
[08:36] <godlygeek> so, no one knows of a way to query whether the backlight is on or off on a laptop?
[08:36] <godlygeek> fishy: top
[08:36] <robby> ps
[08:36] <fishy> Thanks, godlygeek.
[08:36] <tonsofpcs> godlygeek: look?
[08:36] <paganjew> shiester_miester, pink floyd and red hot chili peppers are different generations
[08:36] <godlygeek> tonsofpcs: query.  from a script.  :-p
[08:37] <mojojojo_> erm... I'm using Bittorrent but I can't limit the download rate .... how can I do it... or... which client willl allow me to do it... please don't recommend Azureus  or some program based on Qt... I'd like to have a clean GTK torrent client :)
[08:37] <shiester_miester> paganjew, im just very ignorant about pretty much everything music related :P
[08:37] <tonsofpcs> godlygeek: if ison(badnotebookdesign), islit(screen)
[08:37] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, Did this monitor work at 1200 X 800 ever before?
[08:37] <macogw> why would you limit download rate?
[08:37] <berent> shiester_miester : i dnt care about wordings but the exercise was good for all working on computers it brings relief . thanks
[08:37] <macogw> upload rate would make sense, but the other way means you get your file slower
[08:37] <tonsofpcs> although you can probably check the lid switch through ACPI or something
[08:37] <shiester_miester> berent, youre welcome :)
[08:37] <Jud2> hello
[08:37] <paganjew> shiester_miester, well stick to your gui
[08:37] <shiester_miester> heheh
[08:37] <Truman_> ImLukeEkblad: Still having trouble getting it to see your 1280x800 res?
[08:37] <bruenig> hey jude
[08:37] <Fluffors> i need someones help bad...
[08:37] <bruenig> don't make it bad
[08:37] <shiester_miester> actually im in command line right now, trying to install my printers
[08:37] <shiester_miester> *printer
[08:38] <mojojojo_> macogw: duh... but maximum dowlload rate block the Firefox...
[08:38] <Fluffors> someone want to help me?
[08:38] <Myrtti> gooooooood morning
[08:38] <shiester_miester> if Fluffors name was jude that would have been hilarious
[08:38] <macogw> oooo
[08:38] <mojojojo_> blocks*
[08:38] <Jud2> Fluffors: what's up??
[08:38] <godlygeek> tonsofpcs: the issue is that when the lid is closed, the backlight is turned off like it ought to be, but certain things can make it turn back on before the lid is reopened.  for some reason.  and i don't have any clue how to fix that.
[08:38] <bruenig> shiester_miester, jud2
 hey jude <Jude > i need someones help bad... <bruenig> don't make it bad
[08:38] <Ivis> Who hear somthing about 7.10 version?
[08:38] <Thegeektechnique> Hello everyone... I have scoured the web but found no solution that works for me... I have a NVIDIA GeForce 420 Go graphics card... When I installed the privelaged drivers I did the whole "edit the xorg file so i can see" bit. But now the resolution is stuck at 800x600 and there is a black bar to the left... anyone know a fix? I have tried dozens of em...
[08:38] <godlygeek> tonsofpcs: so, my plan is something like 'while lid closed; wait until backlight turns on && turn the backlight off'
[08:39] <Thegeektechnique> black bar to the right i mean
[08:39] <mongolai> Truman_, yea ImLukeEkblad is still having problems. see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28761/ if you have any insights!!
[08:39] <Jud2> ??
[08:39] <paganjew> godlygeek, do you have the proper dsdt file?
[08:39] <tonsofpcs> godlygeek: ACPI and APM might support that, not sure
[08:39] <Fluffors> I installed ubuntu and it got corrupted so I booted the live disk and went far enough into the install process so that i could delete its partition leaving my windows partiton, but now it still trys to load the grub manager and gives me an "error 22"... i need to get on windows..
[08:39] <bruenig> godlygeek, i think you might get command not found
[08:39] <_C_> How do you install an rpm in ubuntu?
[08:39] <bruenig> _C_, no
[08:39] <paganjew> _C_, alien
[08:39] <bruenig> _C_, get the source or get the deb
[08:39] <bruenig> don't use alien unless you want your computer to stop working
[08:39] <godlygeek> bruenig: pseudocode, buddy, pseudocode.  :)
[08:39] <mongolai> _C_ you don't ever
[08:39] <shiester_miester> _C_, sudo apt-get install alien
[08:39] <paganjew> bruenig, i change my answer yours is better
[08:40] <Hitomaro> sigh
[08:40] <godlygeek> paganjew: i dunno, let me google dsdt files.  heh, it's ubuntu on a C2D macbook.  :)
[08:40] <shiester_miester> _C_, then "alien [deb package] "
[08:40] <Thegeektechnique>  Hello everyone... I have scoured the web but found no solution that works for me... I have a NVIDIA GeForce 420 Go graphics card... When I installed the privelaged drivers I did the whole "edit the xorg file so i can see" bit. But now the resolution is stuck at 800x600 and there is a black bar to the left... anyone know a fix? I have tried dozens of em
[08:40] <paganjew> godlygeek, its all about the dsdt file :)
[08:40] <Jud2> _C_: you can't install a .rpm
[08:40] <bruenig> shiester_miester, you better be here when he comes in here irate with a package that he can't remove
[08:40] <berent> !alien
[08:40] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:40] <bruenig> and that doesn't work
[08:40] <Fluffors> what should i do Jud2 ^ ?
[08:40] <Truman_> Thegeektechnique: Did you update your nvidia-glx drivers?
[08:40] <shiester_miester> bruenig, what?
[08:40] <paganjew> Jud2, come on thats just a lie
[08:40] <Thegeektechnique> yeah
[08:40] <paganjew> Jud2, the question is do you want to
[08:40] <bruenig> shiester_miester, don't recommend alien
[08:40] <shiester_miester> oooh
[08:41] <shiester_miester> well im glad that happened
[08:41] <shiester_miester> cos i was just about to use it myself
[08:41] <berent> !rpm
[08:41] <paganjew> _C_, what do u want to install?
[08:41] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:41] <godlygeek> paganjew: what exactly is the dsdt responsible for?
[08:41] <jerbear> can anyone give me any info on acpi resume.d scripts? PLEASE :)
[08:41] <mojojojo_> _C_ you could try unpacking it to a directory and try do something with it... but would advise not to do it, since you will probably not succeed... and you'll only waste time... it's better to try compile the source...
[08:41] <Fluffors> Jud2??
[08:42] <shiester_miester> ok, so how do i install rpm files?
[08:42] <bruenig> shiester_miester, you don't you get the source or you get a deb
[08:42] <robby> lol, its dangerous
[08:42] <shiester_miester> what i want to do is this http://www.sumardi.net/2006/08/24/ip1000-driver-for-ubuntu/
[08:42] <paganjew> godlygeek, how acpi responds to certain events, its what acpi uses to interepet what is going
[08:42] <berent> robby :-)
[08:42] <paganjew> godlygeek, on
[08:42] <Truman_> Thegeektechnique: How about the latest drivers from nvidia's site?
[08:42] <kkathman> to install rpms - get an rpm system... use rpm -ivh :)
[08:43] <godlygeek> [    0.000000]  ACPI: DSDT (v001 APPLE   MacBook 0x00020001 INTL 0x20050309) @ 0x00000000
[08:43] <godlygeek> [   12.280900]  ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... file /DSDT.aml not found, using machine DSDT.
[08:43] <paganjew> godlygeek, but i am rather drunk so please don't quote me
[08:43] <berent> kkathman : exactly
[08:43] <shiester_miester> bruenig, any advice you can give me on how to do what it says on that webpage?
[08:43] <paganjew> godlygeek, thats right its using a generic dsdt
[08:43] <godlygeek> that seems to indicate that the machine's dsdt is found and matches the machine type, right?
[08:43] <shiester_miester> bruenig, but being able to install the necessary files safely, of course
[08:43] <bruenig> shiester_miester, well if they only ship it in rpm, I guess you can try, I would still just extract it and look at it
[08:43] <jerbear> echo echo echo
[08:44] <macogw> mojojojo_: azureus isnt qt-based, is it?
[08:44] <macogw> Fluffors: go into windows (or put in your windows disk) and run "fixmbr" in c:\windows\ in the command line
[08:44] <shiester_miester> echo....echo.....echo
[08:44] <paganjew> godlygeek, if possible you want to use a dsdt that will be suited to your lapi so that acpi will be able to change the settings you desire
[08:44] <Fluffors> i dont have my windows cd
[08:44] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, It seems as if X.org can not support 1200x800 with your graphics card. Maybe someone else knows a hack for it, but I'm personally stumped. Really sorry :(
[08:44] <Fluffors> i borrowed it to friends and never got it back
[08:44] <shiester_miester> Fluffors, congratulations!
[08:44] <berent> shiester_miester : syntax error
[08:44] <paganjew> godlygeek, i.e. the power button on the laptop
[08:44] <shiester_miester> berent, lol, smartass
[08:44] <Jud2> lkthomas: try dpkg-scansources debs | gzip > debs/Sources.gz
[08:45] <ImLukeEkblad> mongolai:  Crap
[08:45] <ImLukeEkblad> mongolai well thanks for helping me
[08:45] <lkthomas> Jud2: nevermind, I copy the file from other machine already
[08:45] <berent> shiester_miester : good to know my ass have fans
[08:45] <Fluffors> thats my only option huh? fuckin windows cd?
[08:45] <jerbear> no one knows anything about acpi resume.d scripts?
[08:45] <xipietotec> using the command line, how do I find out the modification date of a file?
[08:45] <mojojojo_> macogw: Azureus package for Ubuntu is faulty... I once used it... got nervous... and I won't install it again :)
[08:45] <shiester_miester> bruenig, when i extract it, what should i be looking for?
[08:45] <shiester_miester> anything specific?
[08:45] <paganjew> who needs azureus when one has ncurses
[08:45] <Truman_> ImLukeEkblad: Exactly which card did you have?   I am installing flash player 9 and it needs to know where firefox is installed.
[08:49] <saxin> paganjew: no, I use ubuntu :)
[08:49] <mongolai> Truman_, wait, he has a GMA 940 or 945
[08:49] <paganjew> _C_, you need to install it in the mozilla plugin directory
[08:49] <Truman_> mongolai: Heh, I dunno if it'd be the same or not
[08:49] <_C_> where is that
[08:50] <paganjew> saxin, then make a chroot
[08:50] <mongolai> me neither
[08:50] <bruenig> _C_, install it from the package manager: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:50] <saxin> paganjew: ehm ok?! :P
[08:50] <paganjew> saxin, vmware is slow compared to native chroot
[08:50] <shiester_miester> saxin, "locate firefox"
[08:50] <digitalsky> i'm trying to switch from xp to freebsd, but found freebsd to be too much of a hassel when used as a desktop. so i'm wondering about ubuntu.
[08:50] <shiester_miester> that will find a whole bunch of stuff, and some of it will be the firefox directory :P
[08:50] <saxin> shiester_miester: huh?
[08:50] <paganjew> saxin, whereis firefox
[08:50] <jerbear> i fucking hate macs, but i bet i could get more answers from their tech support
[08:50] <bruenig> what are you guys looking for
[08:50] <paganjew> saxin, although that will only tell you where the bin is
[08:50] <digitalsky> is anyone available to chat briefly with me on ubuntu compared to freebsd?
[08:50] <saxin> I dont ask about firefox :P
[08:50] <shiester_miester> sorry, not saxin, i meant _C_
[08:50] <Cryoniq> Anyone know of video conversion and editing software under Ubuntu?
[08:50] <bruenig> /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[08:50] <bruenig> is that it
[08:50] <paganjew> saxin, sorry too drunk
[08:51] <shiester_miester> the s and _ keys are like right next to each other :/
[08:51] <saxin> lol
[08:51] <mongolai> Truman_, nevertheless, did you have to hack it out, or did it work out-of-the-box
[08:51] <mongolai> ?
[08:51] <Jude> jerbear: there are many sources of help for linux
[08:51] <Cryoniq> !3gp | Cryoniq
[08:51] <saxin> anyone that can provide me url to gutsy cd-image?
[08:51] <paganjew> _C_, "whereis firefox" in terminal
[08:51] <shiester_miester> paganjew, thats a useful command
[08:51] <niru> hi
[08:51] <bruenig> paganjew, what are you doing
[08:51] <paganjew> saxin, will you use chroot, it really is the best way
[08:52] <Truman_> mongolai: Here's what I did .. sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and added "universe" to the two main sources .. then sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install 950resolution .. then I rebooted X and I believe it worked
[08:52] <paganjew> ?
[08:52] <niru> can i get document on creating ubuntu way of live-cum-install cd
[08:52] <niru> ?
[08:52] <saxin> paganjew: ok, I guess so.. I dont know anything about it tho
[08:52] <xipietotec> thankyou godlygeek
[08:52] <jerbear> IRC is usually my last stop when looking for answers, but no one seems to know what the hell i'm asking about
[08:52] <paganjew> just google it
[08:52] <ImLukeEkblad> mongolai:  Sry, whats the tip?
[08:52] <bruenig> niru, the live cd is the desktop cd
[08:52] <mongolai> Truman_, hmmm. you should tell that to ImLukeEkblad
[08:52] <saxin> paganjew: I will
[08:52] <bruenig> niru, it is the install cd
[08:52] <Truman_> mongolai: so maybe his would be 945resolution ?
[08:53] <niru> bruenig, yup but can I get a document on that to try it out
[08:53] <paganjew> later all have an awesome time with ubuntu - i use debian actually but its all the same - peace out
[08:53] <macogw> its 915resolution
[08:53] <mongolai> ImLukeEkblad, read what Truman_ said about 17 lines up^^
[08:53] <bruenig> niru, what do you mean, you download it and burn it to a cd
[08:53] <mongolai> i'm outty
[08:53] <niru> bruenig, I want to create a customized cd
[08:53] <saxin> anyone that can provide me url to gutsy cd-image?
[08:53] <mongolai> later all, and good luck, ImLukeEkblad
[08:53] <Truman_> ImLukeEkblad: I dunno if that'd work, 'cause it may be specific to the intel 950..
[08:54] <Truman_> ImLukeEkblad: Here's what I did .. sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and added "universe" to the two main sources .. then sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install 950resolution .. then I rebooted X and I believe it worked
[08:54] <ImLukeEkblad> ok
[08:54] <Truman_> ImLukeEkblad: However, they don't have 940 or 945resolution, so I dunno
[08:54] <bruenig> Truman_, universe is enabled by default
[08:54] <macogw> saxin: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-2/
[08:54] <bruenig> Truman_, gksudo not sudo
[08:54] <ImLukeEkblad> I dont get what to do?
[08:54] <macogw> ImLukeEkblad, Truman_, the file is called 915resolution
[08:54] <jerbear> i'm trying to add a script to /etc/acpi/resume.d but it fails because the X display isn't available. it's running after everything else. what could be the problem?
[08:54] <ImLukeEkblad> ok
[08:55] <niru> bruenig, ?
[08:55] <bruenig> niru, I don't know I would just use LFS
[08:55] <ImLukeEkblad> how do i get that file macogw?
[08:55] <Truman_> bruenig: I had to add my universe :\ -- and I thought gksudo was only if you were running something graphical?
[08:55] <macogw> ImLukeEkblad: sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[08:55] <bruenig> Truman_, gedit is graphical
[08:56] <Thegeektechnique> yeah ok guys. nvidia geforce 42o go card... installed the latest GLX driver... fixed the xorg.conf with the line "Option      "UseDisplayDevice"  "DFP" so that I could see.. but now no matter what I do I can't get the resolution to go above 800x600 and there is a black bar across the right side of my screen
[08:56] <Truman_> bruenig: I know, but I thought that the difference between sudo and gksudo was that gksudo would put you in root for a graphical app, like if I wanted to gksudo beryl-manager or whatever
[08:56] <mocha> hello, can anyone explain the way Ubuntu packages are versioned?
[08:56] <ImLukeEkblad> ok
[08:56] <ImLukeEkblad> installed
[08:56] <mocha> what does "1:xxx" mean for example?
[08:57] <crimsun> mocha: the leading "1" is an epoch.
[08:57] <ImLukeEkblad> Now what?
[08:57] <Truman_> ImLukeEkblad: Try restarting X and see if you can pick your res
[08:57] <bruenig> Truman_, no gksudo is used for graphical apps 1. because it allows one to launch something from a menu and put their password in whereas sudo wouldn't and 2. because using sudo in graphical applications can lead to things like .Xauthority being owned by root which makes it impossible to login
[08:57] <ImLukeEkblad> X?
[08:57] <macogw> mocha: the file name and its version goes first then a - and number for what debian build it is (sometimes with debian patches), then if ubuntu patched it too, it'll say ubuntu and a number for which ubuntu revision it is
[08:57] <macogw> ImLukeEkblad: ctrl alt backspace
[08:58] <crimsun> mocha: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version
[08:58] <macogw> ImLukeEkblad: X is the graphical server
[08:58] <jerbear> you mean to tell me no one here has hacked around with resume.d scripts???
[08:58] <Thegeektechnique> yeah ok guys. nvidia geforce 42o go card... installed the latest GLX driver... fixed the xorg.conf with the line "Option      "UseDisplayDevice"  "DFP" so that I could see.. but now no matter what I do I can't get the resolution to go above 800x600 and there is a black bar across the right side of my screen
[08:58] <mocha> thanks very much!
[08:58] <Truman_> bruenig: That makes sense; but apt-get is purely cli, right?
[08:58] <bruenig> Truman_, apt-get not gedit
[08:58] <macogw> Thegeektechnique: did you check the wiki for the part about nvidia resolution bugs?
[08:58] <Thegeektechnique> let me check again thaks
[08:58] <Truman_> bruenig: Ahh, I gotcha; that makes sense
[08:58] <Thegeektechnique> *thanks
[08:58] <macogw> Truman_: yes apt-get is cli, aptitude can be cli or gui, and then add/remove and synaptic for all gui
[08:59] <macogw> Truman_: by aptitude can be gui, i mean an ncurses red/grey/blue gui
[08:59] <jerbear> goddamn
[08:59] <macogw> jerbear: this is mostly newbie & installation help in here
[09:00] <macogw> jerbear: its probably the right place to ask, it just might be that the people online right now arent that knowledgeable
[09:00] <mocha> does anyone else in here using Feisty with 2.6.20 generic have problem with "choppy" video playback?
[09:00] <macogw> i'm definitely not that good
[09:00] <jerbear> any suggestion on another room? i've been asking in ##linux, but there just as responsive
[09:00] <jerbear> *they're
[09:00] <Slasher`> whats up?
[09:01] <ImLukeEkblad> YESSSSSSSS!
[09:01] <ImLukeEkblad> It worked!!!
[09:01] <ImLukeEkblad> thank you soooo much
[09:01] <shiester_miester> bruenig, i figured out how i can get my printer working!
[09:01] <ImLukeEkblad> :)
[09:01] <bruenig> k
[09:01] <shiester_miester> all i need is this file: canonpixmaip1000.ppd
[09:01] <Truman_> ImLukeEkblad: yay
[09:01] <ImLukeEkblad> YAY!
[09:01] <shiester_miester> but its supposed to come with ubuntu :/
[09:02] <shiester_miester> can everyone please do a "locate canonpixmaip1000.ppd" for me :)
[09:02] <shiester_miester> and who ever has it, send it to me
[09:02] <mikkel_> Hi
[09:02] <shiester_miester> it seems like it was in edgy but not in feisty
[09:02] <mikkel_> i have new problem!
[09:02] <mikkel_> why can i not running BitchX+
[09:02] <shiester_miester> what the hell is that :/
[09:03] <Slasher`> http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/debian/pstocanonbj-3.2/ppd/ <--it's there
[09:03] <twosouls82> shiester_miester: first result using Google; search for "inurl:canonpixmaip1000.ppd"
[09:03] <shiester_miester> twosouls82, a stroke of genuis, good sir
[09:03] <Slasher`> lol i searched for "index of" canonpixmaip1000.ppd
[09:03] <shiester_miester> twosouls82, thank you!
[09:03] <mikkel_> Hello.. why can i not running or use BItchX.. i try : ./configure and error is HERE:configure: error: cannot find setupterm or tgetent
[09:04] <twosouls82> np shiester_miester, as Google is my b*tch =)
[09:04] <homerhomer> bah ha ha
[09:04] <shiester_miester> you seem to know all its little tricks quite well
[09:04] <homerhomer> mikkel_: I use gaim for chatting and it works pretty well
[09:04] <twosouls82> shiester_miester: they've got help pages on that, I studied them years ago
[09:04] <rgrant> hi i have an apt-get question
[09:04] <shiester_miester> ah ok
[09:04] <shiester_miester> now lets hope these drivers work
[09:05] <Slasher`> ask away rgrant
[09:05] <mikkel_> homerhomer:  why can i not use bitchX .. i will login to my BNC and ident?
[09:05] <homerhomer> do you get an error
[09:05] <rgrant> does anyone know how to find out what packages i installed by my own volition, rather than indirectly, through dependencies?
[09:06] <vace117> Hi. Does anyone know why I get "Authentication Failed" message in GDM if I try to log in as an already logged in user? (from the same gdm, but another X server)
[09:06] <rgrant> i know dpkg makes this info available, because feisty will offer to uninstall them later...
[09:06] <shiester_miester> twosouls82, it doesnt apper to work D:<
[09:06] <twosouls82> shiester_miester: what printer do you have?
[09:06] <shiester_miester> canon pixma ip1000
[09:07] <ikt> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dns-server-setup-using-bind-in-ubuntu.html <- anyone good with bind9?
[09:08] <mikkel_> Can i Play Counter-Strike 1.6 for Ubuntu???
[09:08] <twosouls82> shiester_miester: they've got a driver for it on their website: http://software.canon-europe.com/software/0022414.asp?model=
[09:08] <Ivis> mikkel_, yes u can
[09:08] <mikkel_> What program need i?
[09:08] <shiester_miester> twosouls82, thanks again
[09:08] <Slasher`> cedega?
[09:08] <sirus> anyone know how to get ipv6 ips?
[09:08] <mikkel_> Slasher .. i will Not Buy cedega.. !
[09:08] <Ivis> mikkel_,  sudo apt-get install wine
[09:09] <mikkel_> i have
[09:09] <mikkel_> i have wine
[09:09] <mikkel_> Steam not working :(
[09:09] <Ivis> ohh u play with steam
[09:09] <twosouls82> shiester_miester: let's pray this one WILL work for you :)
[09:09] <Ivis> then u need a cadega
[09:09] <mikkel_> Steam .. is FROM Valve
[09:09] <twosouls82> s/let's/lets/
[09:09] <Ivis> u don't need to buy cadega
[09:09] <mikkel_> can i download cedeage?
[09:09] <mikkel_> can i download it?
[09:10] <ImLukeEkblad> I have a question.    On beryl, how do I get the skydome thingy to work?  I cant put a background picture, all That works are the colores.  I select a file for the picture but only the color i select, works.
[09:10] <rgrant> hi, i have a sysadmin question regarding the dpkg database.  can anyone help me?
[09:10] <shiester_miester> twosouls82, yeah
[09:10] <speeves> rgrant: try us
[09:10] <Ivis> mikkel_,  just ask to send u a cadega some good people
[09:10] <exw> this page: ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsSmc ) has a column with "Supports network install?". what does this mean?
[09:10] <killown> I have  installed windows xp and it erased grub on mbr .. how i do to recover grub
[09:10] <mikkel_> Ivis.. what is the site to Cadega?
[09:10] <killown> please:?
[09:11] <homerhomer> mikkel_: make sure you have the latest wine
[09:11] <mikkel_> I have update new!
[09:11] <mikkel_> :)
[09:11] <homerhomer> 9.40?
[09:11] <Truman_> goodnight e'rebody
[09:11] <rgrant> speeves: where does dpkg store clues as to the reason a package was installed?  it's either user-requested, or via dependencies.
[09:11] <killown> root (hd0,0)
[09:11] <killown> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[09:12] <speeves> rgrant: it is in the deb package itself
[09:12] <speeves> let me tell you the file
[09:12] <homerhomer> mikkel_: hmm, I have stream, let me give it a try
[09:12] <killown> grub-install /dev/hda
[09:12] <killown> /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.
[09:12] <mikkel_> Hmmm..
[09:12] <twosouls82> shiester_miester: you can use "alien" to convert the driver's rpm package from canon to a debian package (.deb)
[09:12] <vivh349> slt
[09:13] <mikkel_> Hmm
[09:13] <killown> please
[09:13] <mikkel_> Homer?
[09:13] <killown> !!!!1
[09:13] <shiester_miester> twosouls82, i was advised against doing that
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <vivh349> comment reduire la taille de la police de la console ? (sans env graphique, )
[09:13] <Ivis> mikkel_,  in a paste time i play cs via wine
[09:13] <shiester_miester> killown, lmao
[09:13] <Ivis> and all works fine
[09:13] <Ivis> :)
[09:13] <speeves> rgrant: in teh control file
[09:13] <shiester_miester> twosouls82, apparently alien is a very dodgy way of installing things
[09:13] <mikkel_> What steam have u installed?
[09:13] <mikkel_> Steam4linux?
[09:13] <twosouls82> shiester_miester: for software I would advise against it too, this is simply a printer driver, it couldn't do any harm
[09:13] <killown> :"""
[09:14] <killown> help me
[09:14] <mikkel_> Hm Ivis.. and Homerhomer : What Steam i download and install??  Steam4linux?
[09:14] <homerhomer> mikkel_: I have the latest steam with wine, yo
[09:14] <ImLukeEkblad> I have a question.    On beryl, how do I get the skydome thingy to work?  I cant put a background picture, all That works are the colores.  I select a file for the picture but only the color i select, works.
[09:14] <ImLukeEkblad> (12:10:06 AM) rgrant: hi, i have a sysadmin question regarding the dpkg database.  can anyone help me?    Pleas?
[09:14] <speeves> rgrant: so there is no central db with that info
[09:14] <twosouls82> shiester_miester: you can also extract the rpm package and install the files manually :)
[09:14] <speeves> rgrant: but in each deb package
[09:14] <mikkel_> can i install from wine .msl?
[09:15] <mikkel_> wine steaminstall.msl?
[09:15] <rgrant> does this mean that some packages are always deemed "implicit", in their control files, and that whenever the upgrade system notices that no othe packages depend on them, they are candidates for removal?  this seems like it could mess with a user explicitly adding something like a truetype font.
[09:15] <_Lucretia_> what would be a good amount of swap for a 2GB mcahine? ta
[09:15] <rgrant> ...if that font were marked "implicit"
[09:15] <homerhomer> mikkel_: wine steam.msi "not so good"
[09:16] <theBishop> i only had 1 virtual desktop... how can i get more?
[09:16] <mikkel_> root@mikkel-desktop:~/Desktop# wine SteamInstall.msl
[09:16] <mikkel_> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\SteamInstall.msl": Module not found <-- OMG!!
[09:16] <speeves> rgrant: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-binarydeps
[09:17] <mikkel_> HomerHomer and Ivis : See here
[09:17] <mikkel_> root@mikkel-desktop:~/Desktop# wine SteamInstall.exe
[09:17] <mikkel_> fixme:ntdll:NtQuerySecurityObject (0x78,0x00000007,0x521960,0x0000f000,0x33e71c) stub!
[09:17] <mikkel_> fixme:ntdll:NtQuerySecurityObject (0x78,0x00000007,0x521960,0x0000f000,0x33e71c) stub!
[09:17] <speeves> rgrant: that section should explain the various options for dependencies
[09:17] <OmegaCenti> Should I have an audio group by default in my groups?
[09:19] <Shadow6363> anyone around that can help with some user add/remove issues?
[09:19] <mikkel_> homerhomer:  can u help?
[09:20] <homerhomer> is that the error you get with the MSI installer
[09:20] <homerhomer> ??
[09:20] <mikkel_> wait
[09:20] <mikkel_> i running .exe Now
[09:20] <mikkel_> need help again
[09:20] <homerhomer> ok what is the error
[09:20] <mikkel_> Steam to Z: Linux or C: windows
[09:21] <rgrant> speeves: sisn't see anything in that section regarding implicit removal.  is this tied to "Enhances"?
[09:21] <OmegaCenti> Is it bad for my wireless card and my sound card to share the same interrupt?
[09:21] <homerhomer> c: windows
[09:21] <mikkel_> ok
[09:21] <mocha> anyone having problems with choppy video playback in Feisty?
[09:21] <homerhomer> just use the defaults
[09:21] <mikkel_> homerhomer:  fixme:shell:IShellLinkA_fnGetPath (0x1a10f0): WIN32_FIND_DATA is not yet filled.
[09:21] <mikkel_> fixme:shell:DllCanUnloadNow stub
[09:21] <mikkel_> fixme:shell:IShellLinkA_fnGetPath (0x1b4260): WIN32_FIND_DATA is not yet filled.
[09:21] <mikkel_> fixme:shell:DllCanUnloadNow stub
[09:21] <mikkel_> fixme:shell:IShellLinkA_fnGetPath (0x1a10d0): WIN32_FIND_DATA is not yet filled.
[09:21] <mikkel_> fixme:shell:DllCanUnloadNow stub
[09:21] <speeves> rgrant: what are you trying to do? Are you trying to remove a package, and it is saying that something else depends on it?
[09:21] <mikkel_> fixme:shell:DllCanUnloadNow stub
[09:21] <rgrant> (sisn't -> i didn't)
[09:21] <mikkel_> fixme:shell:DllCanUnloadNow stub
[09:21] <mikkel_> fixme:shell:DllCanUnloadNow stub
[09:21] <dvm> how to install the "Mozilla XPCOM development package"
[09:22] <mikkel_> LOL
[09:22] <mikkel_> i can not see tekst
[09:22] <homerhomer> what?
[09:22] <rgrant> speeves: i want to, for backup purposes, list all packages that i personally directed apt-get to install
[09:22] <homerhomer> tekst
[09:22] <GaryvdM> dvm: install xulrunner
[09:22] <darren> hey guys i need a file partition repair tool for ubuntu that can repair windows is there such a beast
[09:22] <mikkel_> Cedage.. can i download it?
[09:22] <astro76> !pastebin | mikkel_
[09:22] <ubotu> mikkel_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:22] <rgrant> i am not interested in the implicitly installed package names
[09:22] <homerhomer> I'm sure you can
[09:22] <speeves> rgrant: we had this discussion on #debian a few days ago
[09:22] <Feeling> Hello
[09:23] <speeves> rgrant: and there was no real conclusive answer
[09:23] <mikkel_> homerhomer:  can i download it?
[09:23] <rgrant> speeves: cool
[09:23] <rgrant> speeves: durnit
[09:23] <speeves> rgrant: the thought was that maybe aptitude could do it, but wasn't sure
[09:23] <speeves> rgrant: I always do the following:
[09:23] <speeves> rgrant: dpkg --get-selections > mybackupfile.txt
[09:23] <speeves> rgrant: when I have a pristine machine, I do:
[09:24] <_C_> Where can I download kiba-dock?
[09:24] <OmegaCenti> Is it bad for my wireless card and my sound card to share the same interrupt?
[09:24] <speeves> rgrant: dpkg --set-selections < mybackupfile.txt
[09:24] <homerhomer> mikkel_: try this last thing before,:::   wineserver -k
[09:24] <homerhomer> and then try to resume the install
[09:24] <speeves> rgrant: then run dselect ( for some reason it works better), update and install
[09:24] <mikkel_> ok
[09:24] <speeves> rgrant: my machine is then back where I was before rebuilding
[09:24] <homerhomer> mikkel_: and you DON't want to be root
[09:25] <speeves> rgrant: plus it is release agnostic
[09:25] <Feeling> Somebody have a intel GMA 3000 or 3100 ??? I cannot find any driver working with feisty :-(
[09:25] <mikkel_> i have mikkel@mikkel-desktop:~$ wineserver -k now
[09:25] <rgrant> speeves: righto, if that's the best we can do, then that's what i was asking.  i was hoping to compress the info by not storing the package dependencies. but it's no big deal
[09:25] <Shadow6363> hey quick question, whats the difference between an administrator and desktop user
[09:25] <rgrant> speeves: thanks much
[09:26] <speeves> rgrant: the file is pretty small
[09:26] <Shadow6363> i had to delete the original install user and replaced it with a desktop user, not sure which the original was, but there is no way to change it after creation
[09:26] <speeves> basically a line per package
[09:26] <_C_> Where can I download kibadock?
[09:26] <rgrant> speeves: it's actually old dependencies that i want to avoid.
[09:26] <mikkel_> homerhomer:  New error
[09:27] <homerhomer> ok
[09:27] <speeves> rgrant: have you checked out apt-get auto-remove
[09:27] <CroX> To mount a cd image, how do I do?
[09:27] <homerhomer> lets see it
[09:27] <homerhomer> you can private message me
[09:27] <speeves> rgrant: that should remove all of your non-dependent packages
[09:27] <homerhomer> or use the paste board
[09:27] <mikkel_> See private
[09:27] <mikkel_> :)
[09:27] <homerhomer> K
[09:27] <GaryvdM> I want to install a whole lot of packages that were downloaded and installed by adept on one machine on another machine, without downloading them again. Can this be done?
[09:28] <mikkel_> Homer.. have u see it?
[09:28] <firedrops> yes
[09:28] <firedrops> check the cache
[09:28] <GaryvdM> Where is that?
[09:28] <Shadow6363> anyone?
[09:28] <mikkel_> firedrops:  me?
[09:29] <firedrops> i dont know wether apt stores that by default though
[09:29] <firedrops> GaryvdM,
[09:29] <rgrant> speeves: yes.  i can use that.  thanks.
[09:30] <firedrops> /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:30] <dvm> Garyvdm:  Sorry, it didn't works. i tried apt-get install xulrunner, it installed something, i still can't fine XPCOM development package. I need this to install moon
[09:30] <firedrops> i suppose aptitude stores them in the same place
[09:30] <speeves> aptitude is just a front end to apt
[09:30] <ubuntubeginz> lets say i downloaded a package via synaptic manager.. how can i know where(which directory) the package got installed to...thanks
[09:31] <GaryvdM> dvm: Sorry - I have only used it on windows.
[09:31] <SeveredCross> dpkg -L package-name
[09:31] <VoX> ubuntubeginz: right-click on the package, select properties -> installed files
[09:31] <SeveredCross> Or that..
[09:31] <SeveredCross> I forgot about that.
[09:31] <VoX> heh
[09:31] <GaryvdM> But I know that the xpcom sdk is in the xulrunner install
[09:31] <SeveredCross> I just like the commandline.
[09:31] <Shadow6363> any ideas what the difference between an administrator and desktop user is?
[09:31] <SeveredCross> :)
[09:32] <VoX> SeveredCross: same, but he used the example with synaptic, so.. :)
[09:32] <dvm> Garyvdm:  i got it, i need to install firefox-dev
[09:33] <aharoni> hi
[09:33] <aharoni> I raised the problem of finding a laptop which is supported by 100% free non-restricted drivers without binary blobs on the discussion of Bug #1 in Launchpad.
[09:33] <aharoni> Mark Shuttleworth replied and said that such a laptop is indeed hard to find, but he also said that Intel may remove the binary blobs soon (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1/comments/385 )
[09:33] <ubuntubeginz> thanks guys... both ways are gud.. :)
[09:33] <aharoni> Intel wireless are very common in laptops where i live (Israel). Does Mark's reply mean that these cards may become well-supported with free drivers soon?
[09:34] <GaryvdM> firedrops: Thanks - for the help - it work's to just copy that dir.
[09:34] <Bogaurd> if i have a ttf font... how can I install this in ubuntu?
[09:34] <firedrops> GaryvdM, apt has some option to that that in a "smart" way
[09:34] <firedrops> google for it
[09:34] <firedrops> never used it
[09:35] <firedrops> though in theory, being the same architecture the packages will be the same
[09:35] <GaryvdM> ok
[09:35] <trekkme> i am using some kde apps under gnome, like amarok, can i change the single click behavior of those? i mean that single click does not open that folder entirely but showes me the subfolders
[09:35] <dijital1> someone told me that I need to create/edit /etc/mailcap, but I'm not sure what I'd need to put in the file to have is use audacious to play .pls files
[09:35] <dijital1> mmm knowing how to have firefox use audacious to play .pls shoutcast streams instead of the mplayerplug-in
[09:36] <TexasTaz> Eagleray you around
[09:38] <shiester_miester> hey twosouls82, you still around?
[09:38] <shiester_miester> ive been tryin to get this printer installed and whatnot
[09:38] <twosouls82> shiester_miester: what is the problem?
[09:39] <shiester_miester> getting my damn printer working :P
[09:39] <shiester_miester> i downloaded and installed those packages and did what it said to do in the guide website i was using
[09:39] <shiester_miester> http://www.sumardi.net/2006/08/24/ip1000-driver-for-ubuntu/
[09:39] <CroX> Could anyone please help me mount a cd image?
[09:40] <twosouls82> shiester_miester: what's not working about it? (I've read the tut)
[09:41] <kikkomanchow> woot fixed the resolution problem
[09:41] <twosouls82> shiester_miester: you still can't detect the printer after installing the debs you've created?
[09:42] <shiester_miester> no no thats the thing, it detected it fine in the first place
[09:42] <shiester_miester> but it doesnt WORK
[09:42] <shiester_miester> also, theres still no driver for the ip1000 :@
[09:42] <shiester_miester> the only difference that following that guide made is that when i go to add a printer is that theres now 2 canon pixma ip1000's there instead of 1
[09:43] <shiester_miester> and 1 of them says "with status readback for canon bj)
[09:43] <OmegaCenti> Sound isn't automatically mixed in Ubuntu?
[09:43] <}MatriX{> helloo... is there anyway to install ubuntu on my pc :-? i want to use the windows too.. i mean to have the both.. please help me
[09:43] <dvm> howto start kudzu in ubuntu
[09:44] <twosouls82> shiester_miester: "I tried with dapper, edgy & feisty. It works for me.", a quote from the page of the tutorial
[09:44] <twosouls82> so it should work...
[09:44] <shiester_miester> what driver should i use?
[09:44] <shiester_miester> the thing is, they dont say what to do once you go to the "add printer" dialogue :/
[09:44] <speeves> << is a linux printer weenie
[09:44] <shiester_miester> the driver it defaults to is the i560, which is not the printer i have
[09:45] <twosouls82> shiester_miester: the one from the page I linked you to on the site of canon europe are the same as the ones in the tutorial
[09:45] <shiester_miester> actually they arent
[09:45] <twosouls82> just make sure you follow this page step by step: http://www.sumardi.net/2006/08/24/ip1000-driver-for-ubuntu/
[09:45] <shiester_miester> the ones on that page were called ip1500
[09:45] <twosouls82> shiester_miester: aha
[09:45] <shiester_miester> on the page you gave me earlier
[09:45] <twosouls82> shiester_miester: which one you tried now?
[09:46] <shiester_miester> this page here the one i used, yeah
[09:46] <twosouls82> the one from http://www.sumardi.net/2006/08/24/ip1000-driver-for-ubuntu/?
[09:46] <shiester_miester> and i installed the ip1000 driver you got me through that google search
[09:46] <shiester_miester> yes
[09:46] <jordan__> how can i pass a boot option to the kernel on the livecd?
[09:46] <ubuntubeginz> when i run some programs , i noticed some pple putting an & at the end..and U get sumting like -----------[1]  20098----------- anyone knows what this is ?
[09:46] <twosouls82> shiester_miester: I guess that ppd needs some helper applications
[09:46] <ubuntubeginz> at the terminal, i mean
[09:46] <shiester_miester> maybe :/
[09:47] <twosouls82> shiester_miester:  I see those in the rpm files from the tut you found
[09:47] <jordan__> ubuntubeginz: the "&" after a command means run the program in the background and immediately give back control of the terminal
[09:47] <dvm>  howto start kudzu in ubuntu?
[09:48] <OmegaCenti> Sound isn't automatically mixed in Ubuntu?
[09:48] <}MatriX{> can you give me to read an dual-boot? on ubuntu ? windows-linux ?
[09:49] <jordan__> how can i pass a boot option to the livecd
[09:49] <ubuntubeginz> jordan: Oh, thanks... i was wondering does it give that number is that the Process Id or sumting
[09:50] <jordan__> ubuntubeginz: yea, the number is the pid
[09:50] <Madpilot> ubotu, dualboot | }MatriX{
[09:50] <ubotu> }MatriX{: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[09:51] <lkthomas> guys
[09:51] <lkthomas> how could I hard code which mac address as which interface ?
[09:52] <shiester_miester> lkthomas, why would you need to do that?
[09:52] <lkthomas> shiester_miester: I am going to install two mroe interface card, I don
[09:52] <lkthomas> I don't want the interface change
[09:52] <coNP> lkthomas: it is done by /etc/iftab
[09:53] <lkthomas> thanks
[09:53] <shiester_miester> lkthomas, you dont need to change the mac addresses i think :/
[09:53] <jordan__> how can i pass boot options at the ubuntu livecd startup?
[09:53] <lkthomas> shiester_miester: you don't know what I am talking about
[09:53] <shiester_miester> lkthomas, probably not
[09:53] <dvm>  how can i scan the hardware changes in ubuntu?
[09:53] <ny00123> Hey (yes me again if someone thinks I'm familiar)...
[09:54] <ny00123> any way to change the title's color from white to, say, black (000000)?
[09:54] <lkthomas> thanks guys
[09:54] <speeves> jordan__: when you get to the boot splash screen, is there an option for help?
[09:55] <speeves> jordan__: it should take you to the debian help screen and one of the F keys will show how to pass options
[09:55] <OmegaConsole> !sound
[09:55] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:55] <ny00123> mm... changing title color only impossible according to the following topic?
[09:56] <ny00123> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=353293
[09:56] <ny00123> (maybe via a script or a file it is though)
[09:56] <dv_> hi
[09:56] <ny00123> hey
[09:57] <lkthomas> one more question, everytime I want to restart any service, I have to use /etc/init.d/something restart, is there have any shortcut way to deal with it ?
[09:57] <dv_> anyone knows a tool to record audio in ubuntu?
[09:57] <sirus> anyone know how to do ipv6?
[09:57] <dv_> something like totalrecorder,
[09:57] <dv_> e.g. recording whats being played
[09:57] <n2diy> dv_, audacity
[09:57] <coNP> lkthomas: what do you mean by shortcut?
[09:57] <speeves> lkthomas: alias v="sudo /etc/init.d/something restart"
[09:57] <dv_> audacity cannot record whats being played
[09:57] <jordan__> speeves: thanks
[09:57] <lkthomas> coNP: such as "service apache2 restart"
[09:58] <dv_> there is a python tool, I just forgot its name
[09:58] <_Lucretia_> is dpkg still used? It's been over 10 years since I've used Debian (m68k at the time) and dpkg was used then, thought it was replaced by apt?
[09:58] <n2diy> dv_, audacity can record what's being played, I do it all the time.
[09:58] <speeves>  lkthomas: put that alias in your .bashrc ( cat >> ~/.bashrc)
[09:59] <coNP> lkthomas: no builtin, I guess, but you can use an alias / shell script to do that
[09:59] <lkthomas> grrr
[09:59] <speeves> lkthomas: are you sure?
[09:59] <coNP> lkthomas: Welcome to the world of Debian :D
[09:59] <lkthomas> speeves: yes, service something restartt
[09:59] <dv_> n2diy, how?
[10:00] <lkthomas> coNP: damn, I use tons of distro :)
[10:00] <dv_> I cant find an option
[10:00] <n2diy> dv_, I just hit the record button. What are you trying to record?
[10:00] <speeves> lkthomas: yeah, I see your example.  You are right, but it is distro specific (possibly), so an alias will work across distros :)
[10:00] <dv_> some emulator's output
[10:01] <lkthomas> speeves: hehe, ok
[10:01] <lkthomas> brb
[10:01] <dv_> also, audacity cannot playback while another app is using alsa, which is just plain evil
[10:01] <dv_> record is useless here. just noise
[10:04] <dvs01> the revolution is coming. i got a hot computer noob chick to switch to linux tonite =D
[10:06] <n2diy> dvs01: you should try and keep the computers cool. :)
[10:06] <dvs01> hehe
[10:06] <n2diy> dvs01: and the chicks hot.
[10:07] <dvs01> =]
[10:09] <speeves> lkthomas: /sbin/service is just a shell script
[10:12] <}MatriX{> i want to know how can i create an partition on my windows drive where i can install ubuntu ? via partion magic ?
[10:12] <speeves> lkthomas: here's your magic on Debian :  http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/sysvconfig
[10:13] <Dominat0r> goodmorning all
[10:14] <EdLin> sorry
[10:14] <anna> Hello, I am having trouble to get my rtl8187 to work correctly or my rt2500 to work at all under Gutsy. Can you point me to the correct channel to ask?
[10:14] <Dominat0r> i switched to ubuntu yesterday and i can find many stuff on the internet but i wonder how i can control back on my ntfs disks  ?
[10:15] <beasty_> when i use pam_ldap do i need to adjust somthing for ssh ?
[10:15] <speeves> Dominat0r: do you mean resize your ntfs disks?
[10:15] <loquitus_of_borg> Hey people. I am trying to run the command "regenerate" in any directory that has such a file. I tried the following: find . -type f -name regenerate -printf '"%h"\n' | xargs cd %1 && ./regenerate
[10:15] <speeves> beasty_:  I don't think so
[10:15] <Dominat0r> hi speeves no i meant that i only have read access
[10:15] <dv_> I have it
[10:16] <dv_> its called "vsound"
[10:16] <EdLin> Dominat0r: use FUSE and NTFS-3g.
[10:16] <speeves> beasty_: it should authenticate using pam, if you have pam setup to auth against ldap
[10:16] <beasty_> yeah
[10:16] <speeves> beasty_: are you having issues?
[10:16] <beasty_> but i always have a password prob
[10:17] <new> hi all ... I have a problem with beryl ... everything works but title bar doesnt appeare ... who can help me?
[10:17] <lkthomas> speeves: wondering if there have any manual to teach me how to use it
[10:17] <Dominat0r> Hi Edlin, sweet i will google for those.
[10:17] <speeves>  lkthomas: you mean the sysvconfig?
[10:17] <EdLin> Dominat0r: I noticed they're in the repositories.
[10:17] <lkthomas> yep
[10:17] <Dominat0r> @ new :) i have that prob to :)
[10:17] <speeves> lkthomas: it's the same as your RedHat doo-hicky
[10:17] <anna> Hello, I am having trouble to get my wireless chipsets rtl8187 to work correctly or my rt2500 to work at all under Gutsy. Can you point me to the correct channel to ask? The Ralink worked fine under Feisty, but this is a new computer and has only Gutsy installed.
[10:18] <Dominat0r> @ Edlin uhh sorry but what do u mean with repositories ?
[10:18] <lkthomas> ahha, LOL :)
[10:18] <lkthomas> thanks
[10:18] <lkthomas> I see
[10:18] <speeves> lkthomas: :)
[10:18] <new> Dominat0r, doh ... someone who can help us ??... pls
[10:18] <EdLin> Dominat0r: the things you apt-get from, or use synaptic with.
[10:18] <EdLin> !apt-get
[10:18] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:18] <speeves> beasty_: what's the word? :)
[10:18] <dv_> no wait. jokosher
[10:18] <Dominat0r> @ Edlin sweet
[10:19] <Dominat0r> my favorites folder is getting fuller and fuller every hour but im learning a shitload :) thanks m8
[10:19] <beasty_> speeves: please ?
[10:19] <EdLin> np
[10:19] <Jun> I have a generic 40x cd drive installed in my pc. I am using windows xp service pack 2 as my system. Sometimes when I open my computer the system did not detect the drive. What is the best solution with it.
[10:19] <speeves> beasty_: what is the issue that you are having?
[10:19] <Dominat0r> @ Edlin whats the sudo switch for ??
[10:19] <Dominat0r> !suo
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <Dominat0r> !sudo
[10:20] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:20] <Dominat0r> ahhh
[10:20] <Dominat0r> :)
[10:20] <Dominat0r> nvm
[10:20] <Dominat0r> :)
[10:20] <anna> Hello, I am having trouble to get my wireless chipsets rtl8187 to work correctly or my rt2500 to work at all under Gutsy. Can you point me to the correct channel to ask? The Ralink worked fine under Feisty, but this is a new computer and has only Gutsy installed.
[10:20] <anna> The rt2500 doesn't load rt2x00pci although I see it fine in lspci, what's up?
[10:21] <floppy> ndiswrapper will help you\
[10:21] <EdLin> anna: report the bug to the gutsy folks and use Feisty, gutsy is not release software at this time. It can and will have bugs.
[10:22] <EdLin> !gutsy | anna
[10:22] <ubotu> anna: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[10:22] <Zapt> hi
[10:22] <beasty_> speeves: when i try to addgroups
[10:22] <new> Dominat0r, maybe someone in #ubuntu-it can help us ... I will tell u if I fix this problem
[10:23] <beasty_> it just fails :(
[10:23] <}MatriX{> is very anyway to install ubuntu on an ntfs partition ?
[10:23] <Zapt> how do i manage to deactivate bluetooth under ubuntu?
[10:23] <floppy> can some one help me out with perl plz
[10:23] <Dominat0r> thanks new
[10:23] <speeves> beasty_: can you authenticate against ldap?
[10:23] <EdLin> }MatriX{: you can't install it on an NTFS partition, as the only way to write to NTFS reliably is user-space.
[10:23] <speeves> beasty_: have you setup pam to use ldap groups, or are you using the local groups file
[10:24] <Zapt> how do i manage to deactivate bluetooth under ubuntu?
[10:24] <beasty_> yeah
[10:24] <beasty_> mm
[10:24] <beasty_> it works now ;)
[10:24] <new> Dominat0r, the nice thing is that in #beryl no one knows how to help me ... ridicoulus haha
[10:24] <beasty_> btw speeves i have lag on my ldap client
[10:24] <Dominat0r> @edlin just one small q. Where can i find the repository to check what fuse is called like in it, since im using sudo apt-get install FUSE and it says it cant find the package
[10:24] <floppy> i try perl -e option as described in a security artical
[10:24] <beasty_> it take me a really long time to get stuff resolved :s
[10:24] <EdLin> new: Beryl and compiz are both being replaced by Comiz Fusion. :-)
[10:24] <EdLin> Compiz*
[10:24] <Dominat0r> @new i thought it had to do with having a crappy videocard :)
[10:24] <speeves> beasty_: addgroups is not related to ldap though, right?
[10:24] <floppy> Can't open perl script "e": No such file or directory
[10:25] <new> EdLin, i heard bout that ... but dunno how to install int replacing beyl
[10:25] <Jun> I have a generic 40x cd drive installed in my pc. I am using windows xp service pack 2 as my system. Sometimes when I open my computer the system did not detect the drive. What is the best solution with it.
[10:25] <Zapt> please help me with my bluetooth problem!
[10:25] <speeves> beasty_: addgroup
[10:25] <new> EdLin, do u have some link I can read?
[10:25] <EdLin> Dominat0r: try getting ntfs-3g, it's in universal
[10:25] <EdLin> !compiz fusion
[10:25] <EdLin> hmm...
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <Zapt> how do i manage to deactivate bluetooth under ubuntu?
[10:25] <Dominat0r> thanks Edlin
[10:26] <EdLin> new: the Ubuntu forums have a howto
[10:26] <beasty_> speeves: the groups are also defined on the ldap server
[10:26] <Dominat0r> @ Edlin installing atm :)
[10:26] <EdLin> new: I'm warning you though, fusion also has bugs.
[10:26] <beasty_> EdLin: looking for a tut for ubuntu (compiz) ?
[10:26] <speeves> beasty_: what is the error that you get with addgroup (you can use #paste, just let me know)
[10:27] <new> EdLin, ah I understand ... there is no stable release for the moment
[10:27] <EdLin> beasty_: if you're running compiz out of the repository (reccomended) run gnome-compiz-manager.
[10:27] <EdLin> (main repository)
[10:27] <floppy> ANY ONE KNOW PERL
[10:27] <Flannel> !anyone | floppy
[10:27] <ubotu> floppy: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:27] <speeves> floppy: check in #perl
[10:28] <EdLin> new: regular compiz isn't quite stable either, but it will be more stable than the alternatives for the most part.
[10:28] <EdLin> I run fusion because I like living on the edge I guess. ;-)
[10:28] <new> EdLin, what kinda bugs are there?
[10:29] <EdLin> new: the one I've experienced is similar to your Beryl one, it won't do window decorations. So I have to get it to use emerald.
[10:29] <beasty_> EdLin: i run compiz fusion
[10:29] <beasty_> speeves: the group thing is resolved
[10:29] <new> EdLin, my problem I remember that could be fixed ... but I dont remember how haha
[10:29] <beasty_> it's just the lag thing that is killing me :(
[10:30] <EdLin> beasty_: yeah, fusion is fun, but the darned git-snapshot repository is out of sync.
[10:30] <beasty_> dnno
[10:30] <morpheus_> I've got 70 or so files that have the names "link to bob.dat" "link to fred.dat" and so on, how do I rename all the files and remove the "link to" bit off the filenames, can I do this with a wildcard?
[10:31] <beasty_> EdLin: my boss ordered to install it
[10:31] <EdLin> lol
[10:31] <beasty_> cause he wanted it to see working
[10:31] <EdLin> beasty_: well, I did get it to work. It's pretty cool!
[10:31] <red_> hi, my firefox is hogging CPU and memory.  I am running feisty-64
[10:31] <EdLin> beasty_: it eats memory for breakfast though.
[10:32] <EdLin> red_: Firefox is like that.
[10:32] <red_> EdLin: it has not always been like that, just for the last several months.  also, it is not like that in other OSes
[10:32] <beasty_> EdLin: dnno let me check
[10:32] <EdLin> red_: are you running a lot of extensions?
[10:33] <red_> EdLin: no
[10:33] <beasty_> EdLin: 18124 jan        5 -10  711m 340m 332m S    2 33.7  27:58.50 vmware-vmx
[10:33] <EdLin> red_: maybe try kahakaze or whatever its called.
[10:33] <beasty_> that's my mem cruncher
[10:34] <EdLin> beasty_: wow. I only have 512M
[10:34] <beasty_> 1gb
[10:35] <EdLin> beasty_: I've messed with the VMPlayer. I don't browse in XP without running a Linux image in VMWare ordinarily.
[10:35] <speeves> beasty_: what was the group issue?
[10:35] <beasty_> wrong groupname :p
[10:35] <speeves> (how was it resolved?)
[10:35] <speeves> beasty_: cool, those are the good fixes
[10:35] <beasty_> and somthing wrong with the ldap replication :p
[10:35] <speeves> good catch
[10:36] <beasty_> brb smokey time
[10:46] <new> Dominat0r, news ?
[10:49] <DarkFame> any good suggestions for a very light but good browser?
[10:49] <rd> dillo?
[10:49] <DarkFame> of course, didn't think of dillo.
[10:49] <DarkFame> thanks
[10:49] <rd> there is another that uses tk, but can't remember it!
[10:50] <DarkFame> dillo was a little bit too on the light side I found out.. :P
[10:50] <RoC_MasterMind> I'm interested in the tickless feature of kernel 2.6.21.  will this be packaged for ubuntu soon, or would it be easier to compile my own kernel?  I've compiled and installed a kernel before, but getting the boot screen messages to appear required a lot of tweaking and recompiling.
[10:51] <DarkFame> rd, slashdot looks like crap in dillo.. :D
[10:51] <rd> yeah it can't do any scripts
[10:52] <new> !beryl
[10:52] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:53] <rd> DarkFame, here it is i nver tried it, so let us know how you go  .....http://tkhtml.tcl.tk/hv3.html
[10:53] <nj786> hey man my computer doesnt detect my camera anybody know why?>
[10:55] <Jordan_U> For some reason when I log in through gdm it takes ~30 seconds until I see the desktop, when I use startx it is around 2 seconds even including X starting
[10:56] <xFree> hi
[10:56] <Jordan_U> What are the main differences between Gnome starting from GDM and Gnome starting from startx?
[10:56] <Jordan_U> !hi | xFree
[10:56] <nj786>  he my computer doesnt detect my camera anybody know why
[10:56] <ubotu> xFree: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:56] <Jordan_U> nj786, webcam?
[10:57] <nj786> Jordan_U: no a digi camera im trying to upload my pics but it doesnt detect my cameera
[10:57] <Jordan_U> nj786, Still camera?
[10:58] <nj786> Jordan_U: pardon?
[10:58] <Jordan_U> nj786, A still camera as opposed to a video camera
[10:58] <Jordan_U> ?
[10:58] <beasty_> :p
[10:58] <nj786> Jordan_U: as in a digital camera with video recording in it
[10:59] <nj786> Jordan_U: its a simple camera
[10:59] <nj786> Jordan_U: it uploads from USB
[10:59] <DarkFame> uploads?
[10:59] <Jordan_U> nj786, Generally digital cameras simply act like external drives, do other USB drives mount automatically?
[11:00] <nj786> Jordan_U: yes, ALL do except for my camera
[11:00] <Jordan_U> nj786, And your camera works with another computer / OS?
[11:01] <nj786> Jordan_U: yes exept UBUNTU itried it on windows xp it detected it
[11:01] <Jordan_U> nj786, Were any drivers required?
[11:01] <nj786> Jordan_U: no idea
[11:02] <Jordan_U> nj786, Does it show up in lsusb ?
[11:02] <porkpie> hi guy's   what the command to show woh is logged in to the server
[11:02] <nj786> Jordan_U: what do you mean it requires a UUSB yes
[11:02] <nj786> usb*
[11:02] <_Lucretia_> !help
[11:02] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:02] <porkpie> found it  who
[11:03] <ewook> !ubuntu server
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <Jordan_U> nj786, I mean does it require any drivers outside the normal drivers needed to use external USB drives.
[11:03] <toddy> What happened to this?dpkg: error processing klkd_0.1-1_i386.deb (--install):
[11:03] <toddy>  short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/share/games/xmame/roms/dino/cd_gfx02.rom')
[11:03] <new> !beryl
[11:03] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:03] <nj786> Jordan_U: i don think so
[11:03] <DarkFame> porkpie, there are several commands.
[11:04] <ingo> porkpie: watch or just w ...
[11:04] <toddy> help!!error processing klkd_0.1-1_i386.deb
[11:04] <Jordan_U> For some reason when I log in through gdm it takes ~30 seconds until I see the desktop, when I use startx it is around 2 seconds even including X starting
[11:05] <Jordan_U> What are the main differences between Gnome starting from GDM and Gnome starting from startx?
[11:06] <jhaig> Jordan_U: I don't know if this would make such a big difference, but when you use startx you have already logged in, whereas GDM needs to log you in first.
[11:06] <nj786> Jordan_U: i mean its simple u just plug the camera in the usb port and press on the camera and it detects it
[11:06] <toddy> help about this!look what happened?{ sudo dpkg -i klkd_0.1-1_i386.deb
[11:06] <toddy> (Reading database ... 145916 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:06] <toddy> Unpacking klkd (from klkd_0.1-1_i386.deb) ...
[11:06] <toddy> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[11:06] <toddy> dpkg: error processing klkd_0.1-1_i386.deb (--install):
[11:06] <toddy>  short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/share/games/xmame/roms/dino/cd_gfx02.rom')
[11:06] <toddy> Errors were encountered while processing:klkd_0.1-1_i386.deb}
[11:06] <Jordan_U> !paste
[11:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:06] <DarkFame> toddy, you're flooding the channel. use pastebin
[11:07] <toddy> sorry,but how to?I'm new!
[11:07] <Jordan_U> toddy, See the message from ubotu above
[11:07] <DarkFame> toddy, btw.. sounds like that package you're trying to install is broken.
[11:07] <ingo> Jordan_U: try rcconf to configure if gdm should load or not ...
[11:08] <nj786> Jordan_U: so what should i do?
[11:08] <_Codeman_> I changed my graphics card on my Kubuntu machine and booted it, I saw loading screen and then it was a blank screen w/ a curser, how do I get to a command prompt from there
[11:08] <DarkFame> _Codeman_, Ctrl-Alt-F1
[11:08] <Jordan_U> ingo, I still want to use GDM as it has other benefits, I am just curious what could cause Gnome to load so slowly when using it
[11:09] <DarkFame> Jordan_U, are you saying from when you have typed in your username and password it takes 2 minutes to load and 2 seconds with startx?
[11:09] <_Codeman_> DarkFame: Thanks :D
[11:09] <Jordan_U> _Codeman_, From there you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" to configure your new card
[11:09] <shiester_miester> waaaa =(
[11:10] <shiester_miester> my screensaver started and it crashed my computer :@
[11:10] <Jordan_U> DarkFame, ~30 seconds but yes
[11:10] <DarkFame> Jordan_U, I've never seen Gnome load in 2 seconds btw. :)
[11:10] <_Codeman_> Jordan_U, DarkFame: Thanks you guys VERY much :D
[11:10] <shiester_miester> i guess its time to switch to a different screensaver :P
[11:10] <DarkFame> shiester_miester, what kind of screensaver were you using?
[11:10] <toddy> DarkFame:thanks!
[11:10] <shiester_miester> glmatrix
 with rcconf you are able to dis-/enable gdm for the boot-sequence - do not know why it is slow for you ...
[11:11] <toddy> i'm working on it!
[11:11] <DarkFame> shiester_miester, might be unstable gfx card?
[11:11] <Jordan_U> DarkFame, I never actually timed it, let me actually time how long it takes, I am probably just estimating horribly :)
[11:11] <shiester_miester> DarkFame, I'm not really looking to debug it.  I'll just stick with "blank screen" :P
[11:12] <DarkFame> shiester_miester, just hit ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X.
[11:12] <shiester_miester> i didnt need to, it did that all by itself :P
[11:12] <DarkFame> did what?
[11:12] <shiester_miester> when the screensaver started, x restarted
[11:12] <shiester_miester> i have no idea why
[11:13] <shiester_miester> someone wasnt having a good day...
[11:13] <DarkFame> you didnt just start a new X session? ;)
[11:13] <shiester_miester> DarkFame, no...
[11:13] <shiester_miester> that _codeman_ guy was thanking everyone just before
[11:13] <lkthomas> guys, how could I add my eth into iftab ?
[11:13] <shiester_miester> and then he left with "SFTU Bitches" :/
[11:13] <DarkFame> heh
[11:14] <nj786> jordan_: help
[11:14] <nj786> ?
[11:14] <nj786> does anybody know why my computer doesnt detect my digital camera becuase i am trying to upload pics
[11:14] <jordan_> DarkFame: Yea, it took about 7 seconds, I guess I was just *really* bad at estimating (it is also 2:30 AM for me :)
[11:14] <DarkFame> 7 secs with startx?
[11:14] <jordan_> DarkFame: I guess I should time from GDM too :)
[11:14] <jordan_> DarkFame: Yes
[11:14] <DarkFame> ok
[11:15] <DarkFame> you are timing from gdm after you hit login, right?
[11:15] <shiester_miester> hmm...for some reason the cpu usage on core 2 of my cpu sits at 100%, all the time
[11:16] <DarkFame> shiester_miester, it shouldnt be hard to find out why
[11:16] <_Lucretia_> what's the best way forward with a core 2 duo install? 32 or 64 bit?
[11:16] <shiester_miester> thats what i thought...but when i looked in the processes list, the only thing in there thats even using any at all is gnome-system-monitor, which is using 1%
[11:17] <DarkFame> shiester_miester, make sure you have show all processes ticked
[11:17] <shiester_miester> and yet when i click the "resources" tab, it shows it as sitting at 100%
[11:17] <lgc_> !camera
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <shiester_miester> ah, good idea
[11:17] <shiester_miester> oh there we go
[11:17] <shiester_miester> what the hell
[11:17] <lgc_> !digital
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about digital - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <jordan_> DarkFame: I think I just figured it out, every time that I had started from GDM it was the first time that I had logged in, every time I did it from startx I had already started all of the demons ( like beagle ) so they didn't need to be loaded again, so I just need to cut some bloat :)
[11:17] <shiester_miester> damn stupid 3rd party drivers
[11:17] <shiester_miester> begone!
[11:17] <DarkFame> jordan_, + it's all cached in memory
[11:18] <Exadus> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu for the first time, can anyone help me?
[11:18] <DarkFame> shiester_miester, which driver?
[11:18] <beasty_> :)
[11:18] <shiester_miester> Exadus, thats what this channel is for :)
[11:18] <Exadus> Okay.
[11:18] <Exadus> Thing is.
[11:18] <jordan_> DarkFame: Yup. I feel like an idiot now :)
[11:18] <shiester_miester> DarkFame, one for my printer
[11:18] <shiester_miester> but it didnt even work
[11:18] <shiester_miester> and now its raping my cpu
[11:18] <DarkFame> shiester_miester, heh
[11:18] <Exadus> I'm trying to create two partions.
[11:18] <Exadus> One for Windows, one for Ubuntu.
[11:18] <DarkFame> shiester_miester, printers are the most evil devices you know.
[11:18] <shiester_miester> Exadus, that doesnt sound too difficult
[11:19] <shiester_miester> DarkFame, i havent had much exposure to the evilness of printers
[11:19] <DarkFame> Exadus, do you already have Windows installed?
[11:19] <Exadus> Yes, DarkFame
[11:19] <shiester_miester> no i have to get rid of these stupid drivers
[11:19] <DarkFame> Exadus, and it's one large partition taking up all your space?
[11:19] <Exadus> Yes, excatly.
[11:19] <shiester_miester> is it full of data?
[11:20] <DarkFame> then you have to resize that partition
[11:20] <shiester_miester> you can always resize it
[11:20] <Exadus> I'm trying to.
[11:20] <shiester_miester> yes ;)
[11:20] <shiester_miester> did you know that great minds think alike, DarkED
[11:20] <Exadus> But when I use Gnome Partion Editor.
[11:20] <shiester_miester> * DarkFame
[11:20] <shiester_miester> wrong dark...
[11:20] <Exadus> I start the resizeing.
[11:20] <Exadus> It just quits. o_O
[11:20] <Exadus> Just flips off, no error or anything.
[11:20] <shiester_miester> Exadus, you shouldnt use that
[11:20] <DarkFame> but if your partition is very fragmentet, you should run a defrag first.
[11:20] <shiester_miester> well, i wouldnt use it if i was you
[11:21] <_Lucretia_> is there work being done to get 32-bit apps to work on 64-bit without a chroot?
[11:21] <shiester_miester> you should use partition magic, thats a great software
[11:21] <Exadus> Uhm.
[11:21] <DarkFame> _Lucretia_, there is a linux32 bin you can use.
[11:21] <Exadus> Is it possible to install that on LiveCD?
[11:21] <DarkFame> gparted does the job.
[11:21] <shiester_miester> _Lucretia_, if you are using a 64bit OS, it kind of defeats the purpose to run 32bit software on it
[11:21] <ewook> gparted
[11:21] <_Lucretia_> DarkED: what do you mean? just install 32-bit?
[11:21] <shiester_miester> yes
[11:22] <_Lucretia_> shiester_miester: the site mentions not being able to use w32 codecs etc
[11:22] <DarkFame> _Lucretia_, do you have more than 4 gigs of ram?
[11:22] <Exadus> But this is weird.
[11:22] <shiester_miester> 64bit is not really as useful at the moment as it will be in the future
[11:22] <_Lucretia_> DarkED: nope, 2GB on the way
[11:22] <shiester_miester> in a year or so it will be a lot more useful
[11:22] <shiester_miester> _Lucretia_, then just use the 32bit version
[11:22] <_Lucretia_> ok thanks
[11:22] <Exadus> Can I use the inbuilt partioner in the installing program?
[11:23] <shiester_miester> 64bit is really mostly unnecessary.  you do get some speed boosts but they are counterbalanced by compatibility issues
[11:23] <morpheus_> can anyone tell me how to strip prefixes off filenames?
[11:23] <shiester_miester> well, its unnecessary at the moment.  later on it will be great
[11:23] <nalpha> hello all, I just want to know hardware compatibility does anyone already tru Dlink DGE 550 TX PCI LAN CARD? Is it works on Ubuntu?
[11:23] <nalpha> nj786: Hm.. are  your digital camera works on windows xp using driver?
[11:23] <okay> hi
[11:23] <Exadus> Anyone?
[11:24] <DarkFame> nalpha, I think most dlink cards work on ubuntu.. just search the forums.
[11:24] <jordan_> !hardware | nalpha
[11:24] <ubotu> nalpha: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:24] <DarkFame> Exadus, just use the installer.
[11:24] <Exadus> Okay, the installer partioner gives me only two options.
[11:24] <Exadus> Use entire disk, and manual.
[11:24] <DarkFame> Exadus, but always make backups when resizing a partition if you absolutely can't loose the data.
[11:24] <_Lucretia_> shiester_miester: thanks, useful to kno
[11:24] <shiester_miester> Exadus, if i was you, i would get my windows partition sorted out in windows before i tried to install ubuntu
[11:24] <shiester_miester> _Lucretia_, no worries ;)
[11:25] <shiester_miester> nobody is going to cry for you if linux kills windows :P  some might even cheer, but i can't guarantee that
[11:25] <mrclark01> so, I've been looking at alot of youtube clips re:ubuntu and compiz - and i am willing to make a migration from windows xp pro - question, if I want to keep xp pro but no partitions, can the ubuntu live cd create one for me, and set up a dual-boot system on my laptop?
[11:25] <mrclark01> i still need xp for particular apps that i need for med school...
[11:25] <Exadus> Does anyone know a good partioning program on Windows?
[11:25] <Assassin`> what do i need to use photoshop cs3?
[11:26] <erUSUL> morpheus_: you can try to cook up a little shell script or use mmv http://debaday.debian.net/2007/06/13/mmv-mass-moving-and-renaming-files/
[11:26] <shiester_miester> Exadus, partition magic is good
[11:26] <shiester_miester> mrclark01, what do you mean, no partitions?
[11:26] <DarkFame> mrclark01, what's your gfx card?
[11:26] <Exadus> Thanks a lot.
[11:26] <erUSUL> Exadus: a linux livecd with qparted or gparted ;)
[11:26] <mrclark01> @shiester : meaning, I only have one drive (c:\) that is how my laptop came
[11:26] <morpheus_> thanks erUSUL
[11:26] <shiester_miester> mrclark01, yes ubuntu live cd can make partitions for you if you have unpartitioned space free
[11:26] <shiester_miester> mrclark01, you will need to resize the partition, then.  probably
[11:27] <Exadus> Thing is, I already have Windows, don't want to kill it.
[11:27] <shiester_miester> yes
[11:27] <erUSUL> Exadus: imnsho Partition magic can be a pain in the ...
[11:27] <_Lucretia_> shiester_miester: well as long as it can still use both cores, I'll be happy
[11:27] <ferronica> An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine.SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb0550172, pid=6269, tid=3084924608,Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.5.0_11-b03 mixed mode, sharing) Problematic frame: C  [libglibjni-0.4.so+0x9172]  An error report file with more information is saved as hs_err_pid6269.log
[11:27] <_Lucretia_> ;D
[11:27] <Exadus> Okay.
[11:27] <shiester_miester> _Lucretia_, yes it definitely can
[11:27] <DarkFame> mrclark01, what kind of gfx card is it in your laptop?
[11:27] <nalpha> DarkFame: Thanx alot
[11:27] <mrclark01> how much space is adquate - xxGB, i only have a 100gb hdd -
[11:27] <mrclark01> @darkfame : i
[11:27] <shiester_miester> _Lucretia_, just earlier i had a problem where one of my cores was running at 100% due to a rogue nazi printer driver
[11:28] <mrclark01> 've got a geforce 7600
[11:28] <mrclark01> it's a compal hel 80 notebook
[11:28] <Exadus> erUSUL, do you think it's safe to use the partioner on liveCD without killing Windows?
[11:28] <DarkFame> mrclark01, ok.. sweet.. that works great with beryl.
[11:28] <shiester_miester> mrclark01, it depends on how much you want to install on linux
[11:28] <_Lucretia_> shiester_miester: nice
[11:28] <shiester_miester> if you want to use it as your primary OS, then maybe 20gb or more
[11:28] <jordan_> Exadus: You can resize your windows partition without reformating it, and when you install Ubuntu it will automatically add an option to boot windows when you start your computer
[11:28] <yonis> wow
[11:28] <lgc_> mor
[11:28] <shiester_miester> like thats if you want to be saving things into it all over the place
[11:29] <mrclark01> i gotchya, probably a poor question to ask @sheister re: hdd space requirements :)
[11:29] <Exadus> Okay, thanks for the straight foward answer, Jordan.
[11:29] <yonis> so, the latest ubuntu have 3d on its desktop ?
[11:29] <lgc_> morpheus, basename name.prefix prefix outputs the name w/o the prefix.
[11:29] <Anubis> you have to setup 3d desktop
[11:29] <shiester_miester> yonis, it does, but not a very good one
[11:29] <Exadus> Going to try it now, holding my thumbs.
[11:29] <shiester_miester> but its really easy to install beryl or compiz-fusion, although beryl is more stable at the moment, i think
[11:29] <DarkFame> yonis, ubuntu with full 3d desktop effects isn't out yet.. still in testing.
[11:29] <shiester_miester> or so I've heard
[11:29] <mrclark01> so what should i get the ubuntu 7.04 > and then beryl after?
[11:30] <shiester_miester> but strangely enough, i'm using compiz-fusion and im encountering less problems with it than I did in beryl
[11:30] <Exadus> Uhm..
[11:30] <shiester_miester> even though its only in alpha and beryl is way past alpha
[11:30] <ferronica> An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine.SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb0550172, pid=6269, tid=3084924608,Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.5.0_11-b03 mixed mode, sharing) Problematic frame: C  [libglibjni-0.4.so+0x9172]  An error report file with more information is saved as hs_err_pid6269.log
[11:30] <Exadus> Why isin't the first option on the installer appearing, so it partions it automaticly?
[11:30] <shiester_miester> mrclark01, yes, you dont need to get beryl beforehand.  it isnt very big :P a few mb, maybe
[11:30] <Exadus> Is something wrong?
[11:30] <DarkFame> compiz fusion is a merge of compiz and beryl, so I'm guessing it's actually more stable.
[11:30] <ferronica> any one please help me regarding AZUREUS ?
[11:31] <yonis> shiester_miester so which vers have the nice one ?
[11:31] <shiester_miester> the nice what?
[11:31] <lgc_> morpheus, 'basename name.prefix prefix' outputs the name w/o the prefix. Got it?
[11:31] <shiester_miester> and which versions of what?
[11:31] <mrclark01> right sheister - there's countless tutorials out there - just wanted to come in here to prep up prior
[11:31] <jordan_> Exadus: mrclark01 Enable compiz in 7.04 by going to System -> Preferences -> Desktop Effects ( it is installed by default but not enabled )
[11:31] <Assassin`> can i use photoshop cs3 in ubuntu?
[11:31] <shiester_miester> which versions of ubuntu have a nice window manager?
[11:31] <yonis> or, any other linux which habe 3d too ?
[11:31] <shiester_miester> all the linuxes that run gnome and kde can run them, yonis
[11:31] <Exadus> What, Jordan?
[11:31] <shiester_miester> not just ubuntu
[11:32] <DarkFame> there are plenty of other distros out there with out of the box support for beryl.
[11:32] <jordan_> ferronica: What problem are you having?
[11:32] <mrclark01> the only thing after installation is finding all the similar applications i assume...
[11:32] <DarkFame> Sayabon Linux for example.. you can try it out on the Live CD.
[11:32] <shiester_miester> yonis, its very easy to install beryl, it doesn't matter if it comes with it or not :P
[11:32] <ferronica> jordan: it get automatically closed
[11:32] <jdavis> what's the difference between compiz fusion and beryl? Is it worth changing, I've got beryl now and it works fine
[11:32] <Assassin`> go compiz fusion its much better
[11:32] <shiester_miester> mrclark01, you can also use quite a few windows applications on linux using wine
[11:32] <Assassin`> and easier to use
[11:33] <shiester_miester> Assassin`, not necessarily, some people report that its much more unstable on some systems, although it does run better on mine
[11:33] <jordan_> ferronica: What do you mean automatically closed?
[11:33] <Assassin`> i have ati radeon xpress 200 and it runs gewd
[11:33] <Assassin`> :)
[11:33] <jdavis> me too
[11:33] <jdavis> Acer laptop
[11:33] <Assassin`> fire has some problems
[11:33] <shiester_miester> its amazing that compiz-fusion is still in alpha stages...imagine how much ass its going to kick when it hits version 1.0
[11:33] <Assassin`> but ati cant handle much
[11:33] <Exadus> Guys, can anybody help with this? Why isin't the first option on the installer at the partition phase appearing, the one that partitions it automaticly?
[11:33] <shiester_miester> Assassin`, but who needs fire :P its useless
[11:34] <DarkFame> anyone tried Metisse?
[11:34] <Assassin`> i know
[11:34] <shiester_miester> Exadus, do it manually
[11:34] <Assassin`> :)
[11:34] <mrclark01> @shiester - is there a link you might know of that has good step by step tut's for a total newbie that wants to do the migration from windows? eventually, i will phase it out (windows) after i gain more exposure and comfortability in using ubunto.. but for the moment, alot/if not all, of my medical colleagues use windows and share/present things via that
[11:34] <ferronica> jordan: when i click azureus icon, window pop up and close
[11:34] <shiester_miester> partitioning is pretty easy
[11:34] <ferronica> jordan: i think crashes
[11:34] <Assassin`> i want to be able to play games while in xgl to
[11:34] <shiester_miester> mrclark01, you arent the only newbie here ;) i fit the definition too
[11:34] <jdavis> I had the same problem with Azureus
[11:34] <jordan_> ferronica: What version of java do you have installed?
[11:34] <ferronica> jordan: dont know :(
[11:35] <ferronica> jordan: new in linux world :(
[11:35] <mrclark01> i have come across this link > http://apcmag.com/6101/dualboot_windows_xp_and_ubuntu
[11:35] <Assassin`> any one here know if i can use photoshop cs3 in linux without any big problems
[11:35] <mrclark01> not sure if this is what i should follow or if there are others better known to some of y'all
[11:35] <jordan_> ferronica: run this and choose gcj: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:35] <Assassin`> i mean will i have to install it through wine or anything?
[11:35] <Phlosten> Assassin`, nope
[11:35] <Assassin`> why not
[11:35] <jordan_> ferronica: *gij
[11:36] <Phlosten> Assassin`, look it up at winehq.com
[11:36] <Frogzoo> !appdb | Assassin`
[11:36] <ubotu> Assassin`: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[11:36] <shiester_miester> mrclark01, its relatively easy, if you have some familiarity with installing operating systems you shouldn't have any problems
[11:36] <ferronica> jordan: what us gij?
[11:36] <jordan_> ferronica: The open souce JVM
[11:36] <mrclark01> if i have no partition prior , they mentioned using the : GNOME Partition Editor or using the partition editor from the cd > shall i just use the latter?
[11:36] <shiester_miester> Assassin`, azureus is made using java, which in theory runs on any platform that implements the Java VM properly
[11:37] <ferronica> jordan: okay
[11:37] <ferronica> jordan: what i type first in terminal ???
[11:37] <jordan_> mrclark01: The partition manager on the cd IS gparted
[11:37] <shiester_miester> of course theory != practice, and some java apps dont run very well on other OSes :P some versions of java arent even compatible with themselves, which i find a bit silly
[11:37] <ferronica> gij : sudo
[11:37] <mrclark01> man, this is going to be something else :) hehe, i've been using this OS since windows 3.11/msdos days
[11:37] <shiester_miester> but discussion of the merits of java is OT
[11:37] <jordan_> ferronica: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:37] <shiester_miester> mrclark01, using windows, you mean?
[11:38] <mrclark01> i meant, i've been stuck with microsoft since the windows 3.11 / msdos days
[11:38] <shiester_miester> ah ok
[11:38] <ferronica> jordan: There are 2 alternatives which provide `java'.
[11:38] <mrclark01> and never touched/explorerd anything until now
[11:38] <jordan_> ferronica: Choose gij
[11:38] <shiester_miester> dont expect linux to be like a warm field of lovely fragrant flowers, though
[11:38] <ferronica> jordan:  1    /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[11:38] <ferronica> jordan:  1    this one
[11:38] <jordan_> ferronica: Yes
[11:39] <shiester_miester> linux is more technical than windows...the tradeoff of having the ability to fix almost any problem with the OS is you have to KNOW how to fix them :P or be able to find out how, hence this IRC channel
[11:39] <mrclark01> no i can imagine, i only became introduced to it, after i got some help setting up my apache SSL webserver
[11:39] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[11:39] <shiester_miester> well if you are running a webserver then you are probably more than comfortable with the idea of something technical
[11:39] <mrclark01> right this and google + forunms :)
[11:39] <ferronica> jordan: this one is default -->*+        2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[11:39] <shiester_miester> yes
[11:39] <ferronica> jordan: Press enter to keep the default[*] , or type selection number:
[11:39] <mrclark01> i am running bblean at the moment
[11:40] <mrclark01> but i want more :)
[11:40] <Exadus> Guys.
[11:40] <shiester_miester> Exadus
[11:40] <nj786> why cant i send pictures and files to WINDOWS XP (AIM USERS)?
[11:40] <nj786> through pidgen
[11:40] <nj786> or GAIM
[11:41] <mrclark01> but i'm not too familiar with all the detailed tech stuff - only learned via the above routes (google/irc/forums) but i feel that there are so many ways to approach the ununtu installation and preparation situation...
[11:41] <shiester_miester> nj786, no idea :/ ive never used aim
[11:41] <saxin> nj786: firewall maybe.
[11:41] <ewook> nj786: check open ports
[11:41] <shiester_miester> i think it could be an AIM problem
[11:41] <nj786> ewook: meaning?
[11:41] <ewook> or, rather, blocked ones.
[11:41] <shiester_miester> nj786, consider yourself lucky...i can't even run pidgin :P
[11:41] <mrclark01> does utorrent work on ubuntu?
[11:41] <ewook> nj786: got a router?
[11:41] <shiester_miester> mrclark01, through wine, yes
[11:41] <saxin> mrclark01: yes, with wine
[11:41] <ewook> nj786: or software fw?
[11:41] <nj786> ewook, yes
[11:41] <mrclark01> ok - cool...
[11:41] <nj786> router
[11:42] <ferronica> jordan: done after that ???
[11:42] <ewook> nj786: check ports for aim-protocol for filetransfer, open 'em.
[11:42] <yotta_> is there any way to supress auto-mount of certain devices?  (USB in particular,)
[11:42] <nj786> ewook: lol how mind showing me?
[11:42] <makkalot> Hi everyone i want ,which program of ubuntu manages and handles the package signaturing?I read something about apt-secure but it is not enough,i need some source code?
[11:42] <jordan_> ferronica: Yup, now just open Azureus :)
[11:42] <Exadus> I prepared two partitions, one with 140002 MB, one with 60044 MB, and there's a "Fromat?" check box, both of them have it checked, and I can't take it off, I don't want to format my Windows partition!
[11:43] <ferronica> jordan: yeah warning
[11:43] <Exadus> What do I need to do?
[11:43] <nj786> ewook: ?
[11:43] <ewook> nj786: well, with your router? http://portforward.com/
[11:43] <ferronica> jordan: shuts down tidly
[11:43] <jordan_> mrclark01: One thing to know is that there are a lot of people that put howto's on their blogs for traffic, I don't trust them and they generally give bad advice, anyone actually knowlageable and trying to help would add to wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[11:43] <mrclark01> any links which you might know of that shows why i should use ubuntu and say bye bye to windows for some more "mental validity?" :)
[11:43] <scead> can someone recommend me a music player that has a graphic equalizer that isn't XMMS please?
[11:43] <scead> I can't find anything
[11:43] <ewook> nj786: heading out for lunch right now :)
[11:43] <ewook> good luck.
[11:43] <Myrtti> scead: audacious, beep-media-player?
[11:43] <erUSUL> scead: beep media player
[11:44] <nj786> ewook: dang
[11:44] <nj786> lol
[11:44] <DjViper> scead: amarok?
[11:44] <Exadus> Anyone?
[11:44] <mrclark01> i totally know what you mean @jordan > e-commerce :) adsense + ppc, seo , affiliates :)
[11:44] <scead> im not really after one that is like xmms either
[11:44] <scead> i haven't tried amarok yet
[11:44] <jordan_> mrclark01: Weather or not you should depends on what you do and what hardware you have, it may not be right for you, but there is no risk in a dual boot system
[11:44] <scead> isn't it only kde?
[11:44] <DjViper> scead: no
[11:44] <ferronica> jordan: thanx :)
[11:44] <scead> does it play nice with gnome?
[11:44] <Exadus> Is nobody going to help me. :(
[11:45] <DarkFame> it's a kde app, but it runs in gnome, xfce etc. too.
[11:45] <jordan_> ferronica: np
[11:45] <nj786> how do i check ports for aim-protocol for filetransfe?
[11:45] <mrclark01> where can i find some more info on that @ jordan?
[11:45] <mrclark01> is that in the wiki?
[11:45] <DjViper> scead: yes
[11:45] <scead> okay, i'll try that one
[11:45] <scead> thanks :)
[11:46] <jordan_> scead: Any KDE app can be run in Gnome, and vice versa, they just look out of place and require more memory for KDE libraries not used in Gnome ( again this is also true of Gnome apps in KDE )
[11:46] <mrclark01> ok, thanks for the guidance guys - last question > which forum should I check out?
[11:46] <jordan_> mrclark01: ubuntuforums.org
[11:46] <mrclark01> to see what others have said, stickys... etc, that way i can find the answers to questions that have been repeatedly asked
[11:47] <mrclark01> cool @jordan - thanks
[11:47] <scead> jordan_, hmm, out of place eh
[11:47] <scead> i like conformity
[11:48] <catharsis_> can someone help me figure out how get my netgear wg511T wireless network card to work with feisty? Ive tried everything i think in my network settings menu! =(
[11:48] <scead> aragh, what do you use jordan_ ? :P
[11:48] <jordan_> catharsis_: What chipset?
[11:48] <catharsis_> its a netgear adapter, do you need the chipset still?
[11:48] <jordan_> scead: I don't listen to music much, so I don't use anything :)
[11:49] <scead> haha, okay
[11:49] <jordan_> scead: sorry
[11:49] <scead> np
[11:49] <scead> DjViper, what do you use :P
[11:49] <DjViper> scead: amarok
[11:49] <jordan_> catharsis_: I could figure it out but I am lazy :)
[11:49] <scead> do you use gnome with it?
[11:50] <catharsis_> =/
[11:50] <DjViper> scead: yup
[11:50] <DarkFame> banshee is nice too though
[11:50] <MasseR> Hi. I have a nvidia 8600 gts, and I'm trying to start xorg. I have nv driver loaded, and it complains that device not found
[11:50] <DarkFame> MasseR, I think you have to use the nvidia driver.
[11:50] <MasseR> I tried with it
[11:51] <MasseR> Didn't complain but didnt show any picture
[11:51] <jordan_> catharsis_: It looks like it uses Atheros, try System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager
[11:52] <poof> hey
[11:52] <poof> #xchat
[11:52] <_Codeman_> o.O
[11:52] <poof> join #xchat
[11:52] <_Codeman_> me?
[11:52] <jordan_> poof: /join
[11:52] <catharsis_> well it seems atheros is in use
[11:52] <poof> thx
[11:53] <Exadus> Okay, I know what to do now, but when I try to edit the partition on the ubuntu installer's partitioner, it only shows two options, changing the format ((Currently set at NTFS.)) and mount point (( Whatever that is. )), how do I resize it?
[11:53] <morpheus_> can you use wildcards to create multiple symlinks?
[11:53] <shiester_miester> morpheus_, you can use them to win at UNO ;)
[11:53] <scead> DjViper, this is exactly what i am looking for, thanks mate
[11:53] <DjViper> scead: np
[11:53] <morpheus_> UNO?
[11:53] <Lorne_Kun> the application "terminal" fails to start.
[11:53] <Lorne_Kun> how do i fix it :)
[11:54] <Exadus> Can anybody help me? When I try to edit the partition on the ubuntu installer's partitioner, it only shows two options, changing the format ((Currently set at NTFS.)) and mount point (( Whatever that is. )), how do I resize it?
[11:54] <shiester_miester> Exadus, no idea
[11:54] <Exadus> Oh crap.
[11:55] <shiester_miester> ubuntu killed windows?
[11:55] <Exadus> I don't think so.
[11:55] <shiester_miester> aww
[11:55] <shiester_miester> oh well
[11:55] <shiester_miester> there's always tomorrow
[11:55] <jordan_> Exadus: You can change it in the properties somewhere ( only used the new partitioner once and didn't like it ) Gparted has a better interface if you want to use it to resize your NTFS partition it's on the LiveCD in System -> Administration -> Gnome Partition Editor
[11:55] <Exadus> I can't resize the Windows partition.
[11:55] <mundungus> i fink thats gud news!
[11:55] <Exadus> Jordan.
[11:55] <Exadus> Gparted crashed on me.
[11:56] <metbsd> yes?
[11:56] <shiester_miester> gotta go people
[11:56] <shiester_miester> cya
[11:56] <jordan_> Exadus: Did you check the integrity of the CD?
[11:56] <Exadus> Yup.
[11:56] <mundungus> cya
[11:56] <Exadus> No problems.
[11:57] <jordan_> Exadus: Did Gparted give you an error?
[11:57] <Exadus> Nope.
[11:57] <Exadus> It crashed while resizeing.
[11:57] <_Codeman_> what other command prompt editors are there besides nano... I removed nano for some stupid reason :/
[11:57] <jordan_> _Codeman_: vim
[11:58] <jordan_> _Codeman_: It's not exactly intuitive though ( but it is verry powerfull )
[11:58] <Frogzoo> Exadus: which distro?
[11:58] <Exadus> Ubuntu.
[11:58] <Exadus> Feisty.
[11:58] <Exadus> The newest one, downloaded it yesterday.
[11:58] <_Codeman_> k, thanks jordan_
[11:58] <Frogzoo> Exadus: well that's very unfortunate
[11:59] <Exadus> Indeed.
[11:59] <jordan_> Exadus: If you actually want to learn how to use it ( I recommend it if you do a lot of text editing / coding ) run "vimtutor" in a terminal
[11:59] <DarthShrine> Is there a way I can make my VTs have a 1280x800 framebuffer? (Intel 945GM)
[12:00] <jordan_> Exadus: Sorry, that was for _Codeman_
[12:00] <DjViper> _Codeman_: pico
[12:00] <raavi> Does any one experience freeze with feisty on AMD 64 X2?
[12:00] <Exadus> OK.
[12:00] <_Codeman_> Also, my new gpu is a GeForce FX 5500 (oc) so when I ran the reconfigure thing, I selected "nv" for the driver and when I did 'startx' it gave me a no screens found error... any suggestions?
[12:00] <Exadus> So, is there anything else you can advise me?
[12:00] <jordan_> DjViper: pico is proprietary
[12:02] <jordan_> Exadus: Well I know that gparted tries to fail early ( IE before anything is actually changed permanently ) if it is going to fail so hopefully nothing has actually happened to your NTFS partition
[12:02] <raavi> Need some help for the problems with AMD64 X2....
[12:03] <jordan_> Exadus: But I would not install Ubuntu from that CD at least untill you can figure out what is wrong with the partition and / or why gparted failed
[12:03] <GhoSt_DoG> !! codecs
[12:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:04] <jordan_> Exadus: If it was an error in parted, then the same error will occur with the installer's partitioner
[12:04] <Exadus> Trying again.
[12:04] <dogson> raavi, disable cool n quiet?
[12:04] <doojin> hi
[12:04] <doojin> I'm on ubuntu
[12:04] <doojin> Ubuntu doesn't recognize my usb memory, why not?
[12:04] <jordan_> doojin: What format is it?
[12:04] <Exadus> Holding my thu- Gah..
[12:05] <doojin> I don't nkow
[12:05] <doojin> I don't know
[12:05] <Exadus> Should I defragment my harddrive before installing?
[12:05] <raavi> dogson: Do you also experience random freezes? Well, I own a Fujitus-Siemens Scaleo J ....
[12:05] <jordan_> Exadus: I have heard people reccomend that
[12:05] <doojin> jordan_ : what is the format by the way?
[12:06] <jordan_> doojin: The file system it uses
[12:06] <doojin> jordan_ : I don't know
[12:06] <doojin> jordan_ : I don't know about it
[12:06] <raavi> dogson: You tip is more meaningful, I guess it is because of IRQs...
[12:06] <DjViper> Exadus: is it formated?
[12:06] <jordan_> doojin: Is this a flash drive or an external HD?
[12:06] <doojin> flash drive
[12:07] <Xsylotte> q01z: php dev software package ?
[12:07] <DjViper> Exadus: erm.. is it quickformated?
[12:07] <Exadus> No, DjViper.
[12:07] <dogson> raavi, i couldnt even install ubuntu first, it just froze and rebooted. then i disabled the cool n quiet option in bios and it worked
[12:07] <Xsylotte> upls
[12:07] <DjViper> Exadus: ah okay
[12:07] <doojin> jordan_ : flash drive
[12:07] <Xsylotte> q01z: php-dev software package ?
[12:07] <Xsylotte> stupid autofill :D
[12:07] <Exadus> And by the way.
[12:07] <Exadus> Can Linux run new PC games using Wine?
[12:07] <Exadus> And is Wine complicated?
[12:07] <jordan_> doojin: Do any USB devices work?
[12:07] <doojin> jordan_ : yes
[12:07] <doojin> jordan_ : my usb mouse
[12:08] <jordan_> Exadus: Some and Sometimes :)
[12:08] <_Codeman_> one more question, how do I enable my usb wifi card from the command prompt, kde seems to do it for me so, I never bothered figuring out how >.<
[12:08] <jordan_> !appdb | Exadus
[12:08] <ubotu> Exadus: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[12:08] <raavi> dogson: Do mind telling more about your PC, so that it is possible to post the bug in linux-kernel mailing list.
[12:09] <doojin> jordan_ : hello?
[12:09] <jordan_> doojin: I don't know :(
[12:09] <jordan_> doojin: You could try mounting it manually
[12:09] <fredrik_> hey, I need to know how to install most developer tools
[12:09] <doojin> jordan_ : how?
[12:09] <fredrik_> im trying to compile my own package
[12:10] <jordan_> fredrik_: "sudo apt-get install buid-essential" ?
[12:10] <Exadus> WOOT! :D
[12:10] <dogson> raavi, well i use a msi k8n sli motherboard, i didnt post the bug becouse i think it is a problem is with the motherboards bios in the acpi table or something
[12:10] <Exadus> I might format my harddrive tommorrow.
[12:10] <sdfsadf> !unrestricted
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unrestricted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <sdfsadf> !mp3
[12:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:10] <Exadus> Wine supports Europa Universalis III, to me, that means, go to heck Windows. :P
[12:11] <Exadus> So tommorrow, no more Windows.
[12:11] <Exadus> 'Till tommorrow folks!
[12:12] <jordan_> doojin: Try running "sudo fdkisk -l" and see if it shows up
[12:12] <_Codeman_> jordan_: do you know how to enable a usb wifi card from the command prompt by any chance?
[12:13] <raavi> dogson: Thanks dude...I will work on a meaningful bug-report.
[12:13] <jordan_> _Codeman_: Enable in what way? If it is supported then you can just use iwconfig to connect to networks
[12:14] <_Codeman_> jordan: Yeah, I think that's what I need, thanks
[12:16] <mev221> hi evry body
[12:16] <maxsoft> hi all. I'm using Evolution. Composing new message it's impossible change the Font. how to?
[12:17] <mev221> is there a possibility to mount an iso from an dvd image?
[12:17] <SlimeyPete> maxsoft: switch to HTML or Rich Text mode (I can't remember how, sorry)
[12:17] <maxsoft> I'm in HTML format but nothing to do...
[12:18] <SlimeyPete> oh right... sorry, I can't help then. I don't use Evolution any more - I use Kontact.
[12:21] <berent> does ubuntu has drivers for all latest nvidia cards
[12:21] <maxsoft> SlimeyPete: Kontact have Calendar Note and so on?
[12:21] <berent> have
[12:26] <sdfsadf> !java
[12:26] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:26] <AnRkey> Hi all
[12:26] <AnRkey> i am trying to ssh into a box that has been reinstalled
[12:27] <AnRkey> the ip is the same but the ssh key on the server has changed
[12:27] <AnRkey> how can i get ssh to use the new key?
[12:31] <m0u5e> anyone know why pidgin isnt in the ubuntu repos yet? :(
[12:31] <Madpilot> m0u5e, because Ubuntu repos are only given security updates after release. Pidgin will be in the next release of Ubuntu, in November
[12:32] <defrysk> november ?
[12:32] <defrysk> that late ?
[12:33] <m0u5e> madpilot: so it won't even be released as a backport?
[12:33] <Madpilot> m0u5e, it might make it out as a backport
[12:33] <defrysk> m0u5e, if you are desperate get is at getdeb.net
[12:33] <Madpilot> October, sorry, not November
[12:33] <m0u5e> i kinda consider it just a continuation of GAIM, even though its called pidgin now :(
[12:33] <m0u5e> madpilot / defrysk: thx :)
[12:34] <Madpilot> actually, it will be November - I'm tired and making dumb mistakes
[12:34] <Kwitschibo> why so late? fedora added pidin in fedora core 6 too
[12:34] <defrysk> hmm so the gibbon will be late then
[12:34] <defrysk> Kwitschibo, why why why
[12:34] <Kwitschibo> its just a nw name
[12:34] <Burn> hello, can somebody tell me till when ubuntu edgy has updates?
[12:34] <Kwitschibo> and the libs has new names
[12:35] <Burn> no LTS heh?
[12:35] <defrysk> Burn, updates when security demands it
[12:35] <Madpilot> defrysk, damn, I really am tired. x.10 is of course October, not Nov... I think I need to get my carcass to bed...
[12:35] <Burn> defrysk: even if the general 2 years are over?
[12:35] <defrysk> Burn, after end of life no more updates
[12:36] <Burn> I've a dell poweredge 860 server here, but I can't use dapper, the RAID isn't detected
[12:36] <defrysk> Madpilot, I think you do ;)
[12:36] <Burn> that's an LSI Logic SAS controller
[12:36] <Burn> are there any solutions to use this with dapper?
[12:37] <defrysk> Burn, maybe the latest stable release of debian is a solution then
[12:37] <Burn> defrysk: how long will there be uptodate packages with etch?
[12:38] <defrysk> Burn, usually from release on about a year and a half
[12:38] <Burn> hm, edgy will be supported for 1,5 years not?
[12:38] <Burn> from today
[12:39] <defrysk> Burn, when edgy was released + a year an a half
[12:39] <Kwitschibo> you need real LTS? try CentOS ;-)
[12:39] <defrysk> ahwell time for a coffee
[12:40] <Burn> defrysk: hm, the machine should run plesk
[12:40] <defrysk> Burn, plesk ?
[12:40] <Burn> defrysk: a sort of web control panel
[12:41] <defrysk> Burn, I have hardly any server knowledge
[12:42] <m0u5e> hmm its not under backports... i hope pidgin is added to ubuntu repos soon :)
[12:47] <nj786> hey  ineed help installing me printer
[12:47] <nj786> can anybody help me?
[12:47] <daan> ok
[12:47] <daan> what king of brand and type>
[12:47] <daan> king = kind
[12:47] <nj786> HP PHOTOSMART C3180
[12:48] <daan> nj786: All in one's are always a problem
[12:48] <daan> nj786: Did you get the printing part of it working yet?
[12:48] <nj786> daan, why ?
[12:48] <nj786> daan, i have not tried installing it yet
[12:49] <_nix_> Hello everybody.. anyone having experience in compiling gcc-4.2.0?
[12:49] <nj786> daan, can you show me how?
[12:49] <daan> nj786: Well it seems the printer should work perfectly
[12:50] <nj786> daan: how do i install it
[12:50] <nj786> daan: this is right out of the box
[12:50] <daan> nj786: System -> Administration -> Printing
[12:50] <daan> nj786: Have you hooked it up yet?
[12:50] <nj786> daan: yes
[12:51] <nj786> daan: ok what do i do now
[12:51] <nj786> after System -> Administration -> Printing
[12:51] <ewook> nj786: did you get it working?
[12:51] <nj786> no i dono how to install it
[12:51] <nj786> thats the thing
[12:52] <daan> nj786: Is there something like add new printer
[12:52] <nj786> i see an icon of new printer
[12:52] <daan> Doubleclick
[12:53] <nj786> ok
[12:53] <nj786> A page came up
[12:53] <nj786> daan: ok under use detected printer theres 2 choices
[12:54] <daan> nj786: which two
[12:54] <kyle__> I LOVE THIS UBUNTU SHIT
[12:54] <kyle__> FUCK YEAH!!!!
[12:54] <nj786> c3100 USB #1 OR C3100 SERIES HPLIP
[12:54] <Flannel> !language | kyle__
[12:54] <ubotu> kyle__: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:54] <kyle__> sorry
[12:54] <kyle__> this is awesome though
[12:54] <nj786> kyle__: what do u like about it?
[12:54] <andylockran> kyle__: what have you discoverd?
[12:55] <daan> nj786: Try the hplip one
[12:55] <nj786> ok
[12:55] <kyle__> everything, feels so gd to use
[12:55] <daan> kyle__: indeed
[12:55] <kyle__> simple, i like the way it updates itself
[12:55] <nj786> daan: right now its highlighted on the USB #1
[12:55] <kyle__> and the way u install programs
[12:55] <daan> nj786: just highlight the other one and click Forward
[12:56] <andylockran> kyle__: How long have you been using it?
[12:56] <nj786> daan: OK PRINTER DRIVER?
[12:56] <kyle__> two days
[12:56] <nj786> c3100?
[12:56] <daan> nj786: It is selected already am I right>
[12:56] <daan> nj786: If so just click apply
[12:56] <vev> hi
[12:56] <andylockran> kyle__: and what were you using before?
[12:56] <kyle__> it reminds me when i first was learning how to use windows, feels good to try something different
[12:56] <kyle__> windows
[12:56] <nj786> daan: ok printer info?
[12:56] <kyle__> xp
[12:56] <vev> i get an error running users-admin as root
[12:57] <vev> (users-admin:3605): Liboobs-WARNING **: There was an unknown error communicating with the backends: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[12:57] <daan> nj786: Don't know about that one
[12:57] <vev> and cannot see any users or groups
[12:57] <kyle__> the thing i didn't like about windows was i felt like i had no control, get what i mean>???
[12:57] <nj786> daan: basically its askin for info like the name and desc should i just hit applt
[12:57] <andylockran> kyle__: It sounds like you've made the switch for all the right reasons..  Yeah, linux does give you lots more control
[12:57] <nj786> forward*
[12:58] <andylockran> kyle__: but more control to do good, as well as bad things to your syste
[12:58] <daan> nj786: You can give it a name if you want
[12:58] <daan> nj786: And then press forward
[12:58] <nj786> daan: apply lol
[12:58] <nj786> daan: ok done
[12:58] <daan> nj786: Also ok :) I'm doing this out of memory
[12:59] <nj786> daan: ok now what do i do
[12:59] <andylockran> what irc clients are people using?
[12:59] <daan> nj786: Is it in the window?
[12:59] <daan> nj786: If so then it's ready I guess
[12:59] <nj786> daan: what window?
[12:59] <kyle__> i was running a copied version of ms office 2003 when i was running xp, i kept on getting these warnings, in the end microsoft had blocked my firewall, and anti-virus???
[12:59] <daan> nj786: The printers windows
[12:59] <ubuntu_> i want to install im yahoo, gtalk, msn on my LIVE CD ubuntu
[01:00] <ubuntu_> Kindly guide me
[01:00] <kyle__> and i was getting these windows messeges every few seconds
[01:00] <nj786> daan: oh yes it shows an icon with  aprinte ron it sayin c3100 printer ready
[01:00] <daan> nj786: Then it's ready
[01:00] <kyle__> saying, click here to fix the licence
[01:00] <ubuntu_> Hi
[01:00] <ubuntu_> some one
[01:00] <ubuntu_> plz
[01:00] <ubuntu_> i want
[01:00] <ubuntu_> to install
[01:00] <nj786> daan: ok now will it work effdiciently like scan,copy,print?
[01:00] <ubuntu_> im on my LIVE CD
[01:00] <ubuntu_> can U help?
[01:00] <daan> nj786: I hope but I can't guarantee it
[01:01] <andylockran> kyle__: nobody likes software piracy - when I switched to linux (originally slackware) I decided to get everything on my pc completely legal
[01:01] <pim> ubuntu. you can use gaim. it's and all in one program
[01:01] <nj786> daan: ok how do i do a test page?
[01:01] <ubuntu_> pim
[01:01] <ubuntu_> is that the only way
[01:01] <daan> nj786: Go to the properties of the printer there you can print a test page
[01:01] <pim> well. i use linux. 4 days now. and it works
[01:01] <daan> pim: congratulations
[01:02] <pim> thanks daan.
[01:02] <rich__> ubuntu_ why cant you install?
[01:02] <nj786> daan: ok how is it suposed to come out
[01:02] <kyle__> doesn't mean that they should make my computer be attacted by loads of sh*t
[01:02] <daan> nj786: What do you mean
[01:02] <nj786> daan: like the test page mine printed out like 5 or 8 lines
[01:02] <pim> i think if he wanted to know if you meant it with some sarcasm
[01:02] <kyle__> i took it off and i was still gettin lame things happening
[01:02] <pim> of oops. nevermind :)
[01:03] <Xsylotte> q; is there any rar password cracker ?
[01:03] <kyle__> my windows was not a copy too
[01:03] <Xsylotte> i've forgot pass of my archive :(
[01:03] <daan> nj786: Don't know about that never done it before myself :P
[01:03] <nj786> daan: and also a bunch of white and black bars
[01:03] <nj786> lol
[01:03] <kyle__> i just don't like the though of not having control over ur own computer
[01:03] <nj786> ok how do i chek if scanning works>
[01:03] <kyle__> it's harsh
[01:03] <daan> nj786: You can try the scanning part with the program xsane
[01:03] <kyle__> *thought
[01:03] <nj786> daan: where can i find that?
[01:04] <daan> nj786: It's somewhere in the menu
[01:04] <abhi12345698562> hi..
[01:04] <daan> nj786: The applications menu
[01:04] <kyle__> anyway, this os is kl
[01:04] <Xsylotte> ??
[01:04] <Xsylotte> anyone ?
[01:04] <kyle__> i didn't realise how much kl freeware software u could get for it
[01:04] <Xsylotte> !ubotu rar
[01:04] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:05] <nj786> daan: OK Now how do i scan something from xsane
[01:05] <NET||abuse> Hi guys.. i've lost sound on flash.. it was there before.. now,, ummm, gone.. i must have done something to kill the esd sound driver or something...
[01:05] <daan> kyle__: It's great isn't it
[01:05] <NET||abuse> but i'm not sure what i've done....
[01:05] <Xsylotte> !ubotu rar password crack
[01:05] <NET||abuse> can anyone help me?
[01:05] <daan> nj786: try to find it it's not that hard
[01:05] <kyle__> if only the internet was free, which i think it should be
[01:05] <codecaine> hi when im in gnome on a usb ntfs how can I delete a file from it in the gui without it acutally still being there just moved to a .trash
[01:05] <codecaine> I know in terminal you just use rm and its gone
[01:06] <nj786> daan: i mean as in do i push the scan button on my printer or go 2 xsane and scan?
[01:06] <kyle__> one thing though, how do i get my dvd to work?
[01:06] <andylockran> kyle__: it's fantastic - In the last three years there has been a good change towards easier usability
[01:06] <rich__> kyle__ to play video dvd's?
[01:06] <daan> nj786: just try it, you're gonna have a hard time with ubuntu if you won't just try some things
[01:06] <NET||abuse> kyle__, you have to probably get the css2 lib for decoding dvd's
[01:06] <kyle__> yep
[01:06] <neopsyche> hello, is there any way to re-size / make a new partition on an already partitioned ntfs disk? i have completely partitioned a 250gig disk with ntfs but now want to put ubuntu on it.
[01:06] <rich__> what NET said
[01:06] <neopsyche> half windows / half ubuntu on other side of disk
[01:07] <daan> neopsyche: gparted
[01:07] <neopsyche> But i dont want to lose my windows installatoin
[01:07] <neopsyche> gparted?
[01:07] <neopsyche> whats that?
[01:07] <kyle__> fudge, this OS is so smooth, i could eat it
[01:07] <daan> neopsyche: A program
[01:07] <neopsyche> ok
[01:07] <neopsyche> ;-)
[01:07] <daan> neopsyche: You can download a livecd
[01:07] <neopsyche> thanks
[01:07] <neopsyche>  I have live cd.. for ubuntu
[01:07] <rich__> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[01:07] <daan> neopsyche: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:07] <NET||abuse> kyle__, css2 lib isn't available in default debs as far as i remember, google libcss2 or feisty dvd playback and you'll probably find the answers...
[01:07] <neopsyche> ok thanks
[01:08] <ZuluKunt> a live cd for ubuntu might not be a good idea, it has bad hardware support
[01:08] <ZuluKunt> get knoppix instead
[01:08] <kyle__> okie doki, i'm sure i will work it out somehow anyway
[01:08] <kyle__> there's always my dvd player lol
[01:08] <kyle__> don't really watch movies on pc anyway
[01:08] <daan> kyle__: Totem xine works great
[01:09] <kyle__> k, i'll give it a go
[01:09] <nj786> daan: ok its not working and on xsane theres no key for scan now
[01:09] <NET||abuse> kyle__, haha, nah.. the libdvdcss2 is dead easy.. once it's installed.. all the dvd playback software just uses it automatically
[01:09] <ZuluKunt> mplayer for video
[01:09] <daan> kyle__: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[01:09] <NET||abuse> ZuluKunt, nuts to that.. vlc is great
[01:09] <Amit> hello
[01:09] <kyle__> got the link for libdvdcss2?
[01:10] <daan> nj786: Well you may be out of luck for the scanner part i'll look into it
[01:10] <ZuluKunt> vlc might be good, but mplayer uses a lot of keystrokes to do stuff
[01:10] <ZuluKunt> == faster
[01:11] <NET||abuse> :P well.. i just like simplicity and reliability
[01:11] <ZuluKunt> and it's very simple, less bulky
[01:11] <NET||abuse> vlc just plays stuff... any stuff
[01:11] <rich__> loads of stuff
[01:12] <ZuluKunt> vlc also has "features" such as changing the tones of colors, applying filters
[01:12] <ZuluKunt> i don't think anyone would need that
[01:12] <ZuluKunt> more "features" = bulky and bloated
[01:12] <kyle__> are external harddrives anygood for running ubuntu?  I want to use my internal for windows xp cos i need to use Cubase
[01:12] <ZuluKunt> mplayer just plays the video
[01:12] <nj786> daan: it doesnt print either
[01:12] <kyle__> i make music
[01:12] <rich__> kyle__ depends if you can boot from usb
[01:13] <kyle__> i think this can
[01:13] <ubuntu_> how do i install vista and ubuntu both on pentium 4
[01:13] <ubuntu_> rich
[01:13] <nj786> daan: it print like 1 line and half of it
[01:13] <ubuntu_> plz tell
[01:13] <kyle__> it's kinda new, only had it for just under two years
[01:13] <ubuntu_> how do i install
[01:13] <daan> nj786: Well, it should work...
[01:13] <ubuntu_> both
[01:13] <ubuntu_> ubuntu and vista
[01:13] <rich__> vista is a dick and will mess with the MBR
[01:13] <daan> nj786: You can try to remove the printer and select the other entry when you add it
[01:13] <rich__> there will be lots of guides to talk you through it
[01:13] <ubuntu_> whts that
[01:13] <ubuntu_> do i first start
[01:14] <Lorne_Kun> ubuntu_, please ask your questions only on one line :p
[01:14] <kyle__> would u say usb hard drives are slow???  or are they just the same as internal?
[01:14] <rich__> do you have vista installed already?
[01:14] <rich__> kyle__ they are very slow in comparison
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> usb are slower than internal
[01:14] <ubuntu_> rich no
[01:14] <ubuntu_> i want to install I m using live cd now
[01:14] <NET||abuse> ubuntu_, start with vista and make sure you only use 1/4 of the driver(cause that'll be all u use after ubuntu is installed cause you'll just stop using winblows) then install ubuntu after, it'll detect vista and dual boot i believe (havn't done with vista myself, just xp)
[01:14] <rich__> it is best to install vista first if you want both
[01:15] <kyle__> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, i could just put another hdd in my pc i guess?
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Easier to install vista first then linux/ubuntu
[01:15] <ubuntu_> ok so first vista/xp
[01:15] <NET||abuse> yup
[01:15] <rich__> yeah
[01:15] <ubuntu_> then Ubuntu
[01:15] <rich__> ;)
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[01:15] <kyle__> don't like the idea of putting two os on one hdd, might be messy
[01:15] <ZuluKunt> ubuntu_, read some manual
[01:15] <ubuntu_> Jack rich zulu
[01:15] <ubuntu_> thanks
[01:15] <rich__> kyle__ gparted has never let me down
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> kyle.. it isnt a problem
[01:16] <ZuluKunt> ubuntu_, no one can post a complete guide on how to install vista and ubuntu
[01:16] <ZuluKunt> up in here
[01:16] <ubuntu_> some hints
[01:16] <kyle__> k, i just don't know how to use gparted that well
[01:16] <ubuntu_> or where to find
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> kyle.. get the gparted livecd...
[01:16] <rich__> google: vista ubuntu dual boot
[01:16] <ubuntu_> guidance for dual boot