[07:03] <hav0k> nickrud, it workkkked
[07:03] <hav0k> nickrud, thanks for the help times a billion
[07:03] <nalioth> KurtKraut: your hard disk is "working' while under the test
[07:04] <unamaus> well as it turns out squid is txt based as well
[07:04] <stevejesus> so i am looking to do scanline emulation with my tvcard.  anyone know of a program that could handle it?  xawtv and tvtime wont do it
[07:04] <nickrud> hav0k, np, glad to help
[07:04] <stevejesus> or so it seems
[07:04] <KurtKraut> nalioth, oh, ok. So have a nice sleep ;D
[07:04] <KurtKraut> nalioth, thanks a lot for the help.
[07:04] <varsendagger> what program should i use to play audio cd's i ahve mplayer and xmms installed
[07:04] <hav0k> clap your hands say yeah is now going to be on my ipod!
[07:04] <stevejesus> varsendagger:  kscd?
[07:05] <stevejesus> varsendagger:  gnome should autoplay it with totem
[07:05] <hav0k> anyone heard of Clap Your Hands Say Yeah?
[07:05] <stevejesus> varsendagger:  amarok, juk.
[07:05] <varsendagger>   -im onlyu running fubuntu
[07:05] <stevejesus> varsendagger:  depends on what your needs are
[07:05] <unamaus> what is fubuntu?
[07:05] <varsendagger> amorok good sugestion
[07:05] <lightbright> bye everyone see you all tomorrow, thanks for all your help
[07:05] <stevejesus> varsendagger:  im not familiar with fubuntu...
[07:05] <varsendagger> ubuntu with fluxbox
[07:06] <stevejesus> varsendagger:  ahhhh
[07:06] <nickrud> not another one
[07:06] <unamaus> fluxbox is?..
[07:06] <varsendagger> that's because i made it up three hours ago
[07:06] <oficina> how do I restart the network from the console?
[07:06] <varsendagger> just another wm
[07:06] <unamaus> oh
[07:06] <stevejesus> varsendagger:  well, be warned, if you install amarok, you will need to install a hefty portion of kde as deps to make it run...
[07:06] <stevejesus> varsendagger:  but it is my fav
[07:06] <oficina> thanks
[07:06] <varsendagger> -- pretty neat
[07:06] <siriuskr> question what are the packages that are needed to make/build the programs
[07:06] <misfit_toy> amarok is worth the kde libs, and you can run k3b as well anyway then
[07:07] <nickrud> siriuskr, basic compiling: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:08] <stevejesus> misfit_toy:  yes it is worth kdeps.  i use gnome but half of the apps i use a kapps!
[07:08] <stevejesus> misfit_toy:  ofcourse i used to be a kuser
[07:09] <misfit_toy> stevejesus, I have never liked kde, but it has it's good apps that make the libs worth it
[07:09] <DrZeus> Hi all.  Just wondering: how did anyone here passed the outlook csv contacts(gotten from gmail) to evolution?
[07:09] <nickrud> stevejesus, sort of off topic, but just what kapps do you still use?
[07:10] <stevejesus> misfit_toy:  amarok orcourse, k3b is essential, kopete, quanta, koourpaint...lol, and digikam
[07:10] <nickrud> I use k3b now and then, that's about it
[07:10] <siriuskr> configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[07:10] <siriuskr>  ????
[07:10] <misfit_toy> if gnomebaker would get up to par then k3b I could ditch
[07:10] <misfit_toy> but amarok is par excellence
[07:10] <misfit_toy> nothing matches it
[07:10] <misfit_toy> not even close
[07:10] <stevejesus> misfit_toy:  agreed
[07:11] <durt> xmms yay
[07:11] <intelikey> whats amarok ?
[07:11] <stevejesus> intelikey:  music management+jukebok, radio, cover manager.  great app
[07:11] <intelikey> oh
[07:11] <siriuskr>  ???? what package does it want ?
[07:11] <siriuskr> configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[07:12] <nickrud> lol
[07:12] <stevejesus> dear great one, please come down and give me the gift of a dang tv app that does scanline emulation...!
[07:12] <stevejesus> intelikey:  what is play?
[07:13] <durt> bmpx has potential
[07:13] <intelikey> apt-get sox    and then type   play <music.file>
[07:13] <lightsource> after I updated to the new ubuntu, my icons got messed up. What could be the problem?
[07:13] <nalioth_zZz> siriuskr: visit cpan.org and get it. open the tar.gz and read the instrucitons inside
[07:13] <stevejesus> intelikey:  so... its sort of like command-line mpg123, but play other encoded types?
[07:14] <intelikey> yeah
[07:14] <nickrud> siriuskr, probably libxml-parser-perl ; you translate by adding lib to the front, converting the :: to -, and adding -perl to the end. Works most of the time
[07:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i make it so that new windows pop up but don't steal focus?
[07:14] <stevejesus> BROKEN_LADDER:  preferences/mouse?
[07:14] <stevejesus> BROKEN_LADDER:  lemme look
[07:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> stevejesus really?
[07:15] <stevejesus> BROKEN_LADDER:  nope
[07:15] <stevejesus> BROKEN_LADDER:  however, if you install kcontrol, then you can change it from there
[07:15] <stevejesus> BROKEN_LADDER:  otherwise i dont know how
[07:15] <durt> broken_ladder: xfce has an option for that - use xfce
[07:15] <nickrud> I think it's preferences windows
[07:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> i hate xfce
[07:16] <durt> why?
[07:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> kcontrol is for kde, and doesn't provide that function.  its focus stealing prevention stops the window from being on top.
[07:16] <stevejesus> BROKEN_LADDER:  you must not have used xfce all ubuntoo'ed out on xubuntu
[07:16] <stevejesus> i enjot it
[07:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> yes i have.
[07:16] <nickrud> actually, I don't think you can make metacity do that. One of the 'crack' options
[07:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's icky
[07:17] <stevejesus> BROKEN_LADDER:  are you using gnome??
[07:17] <intelikey> it took me about 10 minutes of getting used to xfce & twm before i learned to like them
[07:17] <lightsource> after I updated to the new ubuntu, my icons got messed up. What could be the problem?
[07:18] <nickrud> lightsource, try using a different theme
[07:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> stevejesus gnome, yes
[07:18] <lightsource> nickrud, thanks that worked perfectly
[07:19] <nickrud> lightsource, try the old theme, maybe it'll work now :)
[07:19] <lightsource> nickrud, can I show you an image w/ a problem I have?
[07:19] <nickrud> lightsource, sure
[07:19] <lightsource> nickrud, http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a220/lightsource523/Screenshot-1.jpg look at the upper right.. what is wrong with my mounted drives?
[07:20] <nickrud> lightsource, they have no icons?
[07:20] <thrice`> lol
[07:20] <lightsource> nickrud, correct
[07:20] <stevejesus> imback
[07:21] <stevejesus> hey, does any know where i can find a debian package for sax2?
[07:21] <nickrud> lightsource, so, changing the theme didn't help there?
[07:22] <thrice`> lightsource, try using the default theme
[07:22] <thrice`> oops, nickrud just said that =|
[07:23] <DShepherd> ctrl+S in nautilus gives you the option to select a pattern. How does that work?
[07:23] <intelikey> ooooh yuch the default theeme !
[07:23] <DShepherd> what exactly does it mean
[07:23] <Rubin> i'm havin some problems with -lresolv on 64bit ubuntu
[07:23] <nickrud> DShepherd, it means fileglobbing :)
[07:23] <Rubin> res_mkquery is an undefined reference
[07:23] <Rubin> even though libresolv.so existst in 4 places
[07:24] <Rubin> are there known lib issues on the 64bit dist
[07:24] <DShepherd> nickrud: so you mean I can ... filter out extensions or something like that?
[07:24] <nickrud> DShepherd, like, using * and ?   to match multiple file names
[07:24] <nickrud> DShepherd, same as you would in a terminal
[07:25] <DShepherd> nickrud: ok. let me try it now
[07:25] <lightsource> nickrud, negative, it did not work
[07:25] <intelikey> i assume that would be regexp
[07:25] <lightsource> thrice`, i tried using default theme
[07:25] <nickrud> DShepherd, and thanks, I'd forgotten about that, I can use it
[07:25] <DShepherd> nickrud: kool!! :)
[07:26] <nickrud> ah
[07:27] <vbgunz> anyone know how I can get the list view in Nautilus to show files smaller than 50% *but* bigger than 25%
[07:28] <unamaus> quit
[07:28] <unamaus> exit
[07:28] <unamaus> oops
[07:28] <intelikey> stop
[07:28] <intelikey> leave
[07:28] <misfit_toy> that's funny every time
[07:28] <intelikey> go
[07:28] <intelikey> lol
[07:28] <DShepherd> nickrud: it seems to be case sensitive...not soo kool again
[07:28] <nickrud> intelikey, I'm not sure which it is,
[07:28] <Xcerca> hey guys
[07:28] <nickrud> DShepherd, it's supposed to be, case matters
[07:29] <DShepherd> nickrud: I guess.
[07:29] <jrsims> I LIKE UBUNTU! If you like ubuntu, I like you too!
[07:29] <Xcerca> i just fixed a problem i was having,       and i wanted everyone to know that
[07:29] <lite> why is there no mozilla-thunderbird-locale-fi-fi package available? :o
[07:29] <DShepherd> jrsims: :)
[07:29] <DShepherd> where can I find the 'trash' on the filesystem?
[07:29] <wx9j> only part of the time
[07:29] <jrsims> DShepherd: exactly.
[07:30] <nickrud> DShepherd, it's .Trash in your home directory
[07:30] <vbgunz> anybody know how to tweak the nautilus list view to show files smaller than 50% *but* bigger than 25%? Currently 50% is too big and 25% is too small... I tried putting in a percentage in gconf *but* I think it is asking for a word that describes a size "smallest, smaller, small, etc"... Anyone know if this is even possible without too much headache?
[07:30] <jrsims> nickrud: thanks, I was wondering about that too
[07:30] <nickrud> used to be all over the place, a real pain
[07:30] <DShepherd> nickrud: so from now I is should mv files to .Trash when deleting :)
[07:31] <krisg> test
[07:31] <nickrud> DShepherd, not a bad idea
[07:31] <varsendagger> i am trying to get quake 2 running and i get this error:
[07:31] <varsendagger> Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
[07:31] <intelikey> no krisg it's still broke.
[07:32] <DShepherd> nickrud: is .Trash found only in my home directory.. I not sure but I thought I saw one on me USB stick
[07:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> why is it so incredibly hard to change the gnome menu?
[07:33] <intelikey> DShepherd it is probably  lost+found
[07:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there any sort of alternative menu i can put in the gnome-panel that can be configured properly?
[07:34] <nickrud> vbgunz, it's probably a matter of tweaking your fonts and the scale; the 50/25 scaling is hardwired into nautilus, I think
[07:34] <DShepherd> intelikey: whats the purpose of that directory?
[07:34] <intelikey> used by fsck
[07:34] <DShepherd> intelikey: ok
[07:34] <vbgunz> nickrud: I believe Nautilus doesn't have any options to change the list view further than smallest and smaller... that sux major :P
[07:35] <intelikey> i usually rm it though.   fsck will make another when needed lol
[07:35] <nickrud> DShepherd, lost files and partial files get dropped there for the admin to peruse
[07:35] <DShepherd> ok
[07:35] <nickrud> I don't think I've ever found anything there
[07:36] <intelikey> DShepherd some gui apps may use that for a trash can for undelete purposes, but i gui very little, so i really don't know.
[07:36] <nickrud> well, its late. Work comes early tomorrow. good night
[07:36] <DShepherd> intelikey: kool
[07:37] <intelikey> errr suid
[07:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> what sucks is there's no decent, configurable menu for gnome
[07:38] <intelikey> one of the reasons i've never learned to like gnome....
[07:38] <intelikey> thoreauputic
[07:38] <DShepherd> intelikey: gnome is nice
[07:39] <wx9j> have you noticed that if you load gnome sounds, it removes gdm and the untubu desktop ?
[07:39] <intelikey> so is twm         if you like twm
[07:42] <intelikey> hmmmmm thoughtfs  files would never be where you thought they were supposed to be.......
[07:43] <intelikey> so its just you  eeh ?
[07:44] <DShepherd> anyone know a good IDE for python?
[07:44] <TotalNewb> Anyone know where that script was that allows you to auto-mount windows drives under /media is posted?
[07:44] <Xcerca> no encoder found for file type wmv   ,    what do i need to get?
[07:45] <intelikey> !ntfs
[07:45] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:45] <jrsims> Bye everyone! Keep loving that ubuntu for me!
[07:46] <intelikey> !restricted formats
[07:46] <DShepherd> TotalNewb: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/index.php <-- there maybe
[07:46] <ubotu> restricted formats is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[07:46] <goldbrick> okay, I tried changing to a manual IP address config for my ethernet card
[07:47] <goldbrick> And now whenever I try and enable the device, it doesn't stay enabled
[07:48] <Xcerca> i used to have it so you didn't have to put in a pasword to login, but then i reinstaled ubuntu and i forgot where that was,  can anyone tell me ?
[07:48] <intelikey> autologin ?
[07:49] <Xcerca> yes
[07:49] <intelikey> or should i say 'man autologin '
[07:49] <Xcerca> i found it
[07:50] <Xcerca> Admini>Login Screen Setup ..
[07:50] <intelikey> looks like a gnome string to me.....
[07:50] <Xcerca> does anyone have a sound card that uses the emu10k1 driver ?
[07:51] <Xcerca> *emuk10k1
[07:52] <intelikey> nope, analog device here mate.
[07:52] <goldbrick> okay
[07:52] <TotalNewb> Yay! I love that script.
[07:52] <intelikey> i don't think i have ever seen it this quiet in this channel...........
[07:52] <drcode> any one here using dovecot?
[07:52] <goldbrick> how do I repair my network interfaces?
[07:52] <drcode> mybe can help me
[07:52] <goldbrick> they're totally fail for some reaons
[07:53] <sethk> goldbrick, that's not a very specific question
[07:53] <liquidboy> xfce has randomly lost its main panel (whats it called)? i reinstalled it (everything) - no difference, i uninstalled it, and it still apears on the GDM menu, but boots into gnome...
[07:53] <liquidboy> weird
[07:53] <intelikey> drcode if i knew squat about networking i would try.
[07:53] <goldbrick> sethk: Sorry
[07:54] <sethk> goldbrick, don't be sorry, just ask a question that someone might be able to answer.  :)
[07:54] <Xcerca> i do networking in the AF ,  but the gov has contracts with dell and microsoft...   so guess what we get to work on......
[07:54] <Xcerca> sh1t
[07:55] <goldbrick> When I go into settings:/Network/ and open up Configure for Network settings
[07:55] <sethk> Xcerca, I'm stuf with a dell, but I set it up to dual boot
[07:55] <goldbrick> No matter what I do when I try and enable my network interfaces, they pop to enabled and then back to disabled
[07:56] <goldbrick> This happened after I tried to configured it to a static ip address as opposed to dhcp
[07:56] <sethk> goldbrick, I'd start by looking in /var/log/messages, see if there is anything logged about why it fails.
[07:56] <goldbrick> Something weird happened and all the controls disappeared of the window titlebars
[07:57] <goldbrick> The menus disappeared off of them too
[07:58] <rob_p> drcode:  I just recently installed it on one of my servers.  I haven't gotten around to configuring it yet though.  I goofed with it for a few minutes but couldn't get it to listen on port 110.  I didn't spend too much time with it though.
[07:59] <Xcerca> sethk     yea,  the machines we have are pretty good,  but the policy is to leave them on al the time to allow forces updates (which are ~1 a year)....    and no system maint. whatsoever
[07:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> god i just checked out xfce for a few minutes and it drove me insane
[07:59] <Xcerca> corilary ,   10 min to check email.....
[08:00] <deFrysk> BROKEN_LADDER, /j #de-wars ;p
[08:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know of a replacement for the gnome menu that is terribly broken?
[08:00] <sethk> Xcerca, not wise
[08:00] <sethk> BROKEN_LADDER, you are looking for something terribly broken?
[08:00] <Xcerca> lol,   yea i know,   not my rule though.....
[08:01] <sethk> Xcerca, I know.  I get yelled at by the admins all the time, but I ignore them.
[08:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> sethk i should have put a comma in there.
[08:01] <Xcerca> i gave them the suggestion to atleast turn them off at night to give the hw a chance to relax....
[08:01] <sethk> BROKEN_LADDER, :)
[08:01] <Xcerca> sethk are you in the military ?
[08:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> the configuration editor won't let you delete or rename the menus.
[08:01] <sethk> Xcerca, oh, I wasn't supposed to turn off my machine?  I forgot, again.  :)
[08:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> wtf
[08:01] <sethk> Xcerca, no, why did you ask that?  :)
[08:02] <intelikey> anyone know what might cause a box to slow down when i dialup  and also when connected to the net i cant log into another console ?     hang up and i can login ?
[08:02] <Xcerca>  i do networking in the ***AF*** ,  but the gov has contracts with dell and microsoft...   so guess what we get to work on......
[08:02] <Xcerca>  sh1t
[08:02] <intelikey> i checked process tabel and nothing out of the norm there.
[08:02] <Glossary> Hi!
[08:03] <senectus> crap... I just did rm -rf to a directory I didn't want to zap.. is there any way to "undo" that? (only did it two seconds ago..)
[08:03] <Glossary> How can i connect my Nokia phone to ubuntu ?
[08:03] <Xcerca> i guess we have he same stupid polices everywhere then
[08:03] <Glossary> I need to print out some pictures
[08:03] <laserwolf> wow
[08:03] <laserwolf> there's a lot of questions happening
[08:04] <rob_p> senectus:  Nope!  Sorry man... it's gone :-(
[08:04] <Xcerca> anybody use a sound card that uses he emuk10k1 driver ?
[08:04] <BLUE_ICE> how do i get fixed the GRUB loading, please wait GRUB Error 17 am going to go back in Windows and i got this error
[08:04] <Glossary> sup anybody can help ?
[08:04] <polpak> selinium, what kind of fs do you have senectus?
[08:04] <polpak> erm
[08:04] <intelikey> next to none
[08:04] <polpak> senectus, what kind of fs do you have?
[08:05] <Xcerca> blue_ice   i had problems with that to....  are you useing 2 hdds ?
[08:05] <intelikey> oooops wrong window.
[08:05] <senectus> polpak, uh.. not sure.. whatever ubuntu sets by default (server build)
[08:05] <sethk> senectus, there are tools around for some of the file systems.  If there is going to be a prayer of getting it back, though, you have to make sure that NOTHING is written to that file system.
[08:05] <BLUE_ICE> Xcerca only one i tried to go back to Windows but i got this error
[08:05] <BLUE_ICE> what should we do this ?
[08:05] <BLUE_ICE> anybody can help me?
[08:05] <sethk> BLUE_ICE, did your grub.conf get changed?  Did it used to work in windows?
[08:05] <rob_p> senectus:  Chances are that you are using ext3.  Very difficult to recover deleted files on that fs...
[08:05] <Glossary> How can i connect my Nokia phone to ubuntu ?
[08:06] <jasonjdp> anybody know if xvid can be installed? it failed when i tried to make it... ;-(
[08:06] <senectus> bugger :-/
[08:06] <goldbrick> okay
[08:06] <goldbrick> found some errors
[08:06] <BLUE_ICE> sethk actually im just go directly to my floppy then fdisk the HD e remove non dos then i reformat
[08:06] <Xcerca> goldbrick is there a reason you used static ip ?
[08:07] <_KronicDreamer> anyone have a site or two w/ nice Ubuntu Tutorials and Plugins that make stuff a lil easier?
[08:07] <sethk> jasonjdp, what did it say when it failed?
[08:07] <Xcerca> because if you dont have a router set up to run the vlan for the subnet mask then you really need to use dhcp...
[08:07] <goldbrick> Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko ): No such device.
[08:08] <Xcerca> o...   totaly diff prob
[08:08] <jasonjdp> lol, it was like an hour ago... gotta go find it... ive been afk...
[08:08] <jasonjdp> ;-)
[08:08] <laserwolf> glossary, so you have a USB cord for your phone?
[08:08] <Glossary> laserwolf,  yes i do
[08:08] <Steil> Does anyone here have experience with pamusb?
[08:08] <goldbrick> cant' create /var/run/dhclient.eth1.leases: Permission denied
[08:09] <rob_p> senectus:  About all you can do at this point would be to remount the volume read-only and then use strings and grep to find the files you want to recover.  If they are binaries, well... you'll need some other tools but probably not likely you'll successfully recover them.
[08:09] <jgoebel> what's necessary to get nvidia working?
[08:09] <laserwolf> does the phone show up somewhere in your file browser?
[08:09] <jgoebel> i switched from nv to nvidia but i get the GL error?
[08:10] <Glossary> laserwolf,  let me check
[08:10] <jgoebel> i know this is something trivial
[08:10] <Glossary> laserwolf, no
[08:10] <laserwolf> then i have no idea :\
[08:10] <Xcerca> jgoebel    terminal.... dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:10] <Glossary> :/
[08:10] <laserwolf> sorry, i'm a linux n00b
[08:10] <BLUE_ICE> what should i do my HD pls help
[08:11] <Glossary> laserwolf,  aight
[08:11] <jasonjdp> oh! lol didnt realize there was a Debian Xvid build...
[08:11] <jasonjdp> <--noob
[08:11] <_KronicDreamer> n00b*
[08:11] <_KronicDreamer> :P
[08:11] <Steil> How would I go about turning off the automounting of a specific usb drive?
[08:11] <_KronicDreamer> anyone have a site or two w/ nice Ubuntu Tutorials and Plugins that make stuff a lil easier?
[08:11] <Xcerca> blue_ice    i would fdisk and erase everything then install win xp then ubuntu....
[08:12] <Xcerca> but thats just me
[08:12] <Xcerca> invest in a usb hd and you wont have to lose data t fix your system
[08:12] <_KronicDreamer> win xp sux
[08:12] <BLUE_ICE> thats what i should do but i got this Error GRUB Error 17
[08:12] <laserwolf> _KronicDreamer http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[08:12] <laserwolf> also linuxquestions.org
[08:12] <BLUE_ICE> how can i fixed that error?
[08:12] <_KronicDreamer> thnx
[08:12] <jgoebel> Xcerca: how is that supposed to help?
[08:12] <DShepherd> I trying to install eclipse. what do I apt-get?
[08:13] <jgoebel> Xcerca: i went all the way thru it
[08:13] <laserwolf> also, there's an ubuntu wiki (check your firefox bookmarks)
[08:13] <Xcerca> did you change your video driver back to nvidia ?
[08:13] <_KronicDreamer> i dont use firefox
[08:13] <jgoebel> Xcerca: yes...
[08:13] <jgoebel> Xcerca: when it's nvidia i get the GL error
[08:13] <jgoebel> oh wait
[08:13] <Xcerca> then ctrl alt bkspc
[08:13] <DShepherd> _KronicDreamer: help.ubuntu.com. dont used www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:14] <Xcerca> and then startx
[08:14] <laserwolf> what's wrong w/ ubuntuguide.org?
[08:14] <Xcerca> to restat gnome
[08:14] <jgoebel> Xcerca: i'm in console
[08:14] <jgoebel> Xcerca: just tring to get X to even run
[08:14] <dducko>  !ubuntuguide
[08:14] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[08:14] <thoreauputic> !ubuntuguide
[08:14] <jgoebel> hmmmm
[08:14] <jgoebel> it says failing to load nvidia
[08:14] <jgoebel> but it's in the kernel
[08:14] <dducko> Beat ya to it.. heh
[08:15] <polpak> in ubuntu, slocate runs as user nobody
[08:15] <DShepherd>  laserwolf ubotu answered your question?
[08:15] <DShepherd> I trying to install eclipse. what do I apt-get?
[08:15] <polpak> if I chmod my home directory to 700 how can my files be found when using locate?
[08:15] <laserwolf> ubuntuguide is based on 5.04... i've been using it for 3 days (the life of my system) and it hasnt broken anything.  only complaint was the add repository guide was bust
[08:16] <laserwolf> but that was easy enough to fix
[08:16] <jasonjdp> seth, ok, i found the Debian folder in the Xvid files.  i did  dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot  and i got  http://pastebin.com/434048
[08:16] <jgoebel> Xcerca: you can talk highlevel to me
[08:16] <ubuntu> hello?
[08:16] <ubuntu> oho!
[08:16] <jgoebel> Xcerca: i installed the binary modules, modprobe nvidia (actually rebooted and it's there)... and changed nv -> nvidia, but no dice
[08:16] <DShepherd> laserwolf: help.ubunut.com is better or use the wiki
[08:16] <bur[n] er> laserwolf: wiki is a better resource
[08:16] <jgoebel> Xcerca: nvidia is loaded in the kernel
[08:16] <jgoebel> it's like X doesn't have a driver or something
[08:17] <laserwolf> rock on
[08:17] <dducko> DShepherd, start with eclipse-base
[08:17] <Xcerca> have you gotten nvidia-glx from synaptic ?
[08:17] <Xcerca> ....dumbquestion
[08:17] <DShepherd> dducko: ok I have done that. what next?
[08:17] <BLUE_ICE> guys help me to go back in Windows then linux
[08:17] <jgoebel> ah
[08:17] <jgoebel> Xcerca: nope, they changed all this i think
[08:17] <_KronicDreamer> anything Linux will work on Ubuntu, unless it has the specifics right?
[08:18] <Xcerca> you need nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-settings
[08:18] <laserwolf> where's the direct-connect command in gaim?
[08:18] <dducko> DShepherd, Id suggest looking through Synaptic
[08:18] <dducko>  /dcc?
[08:18] <Xcerca> then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:19] <jasonjdp> seth, ok, i found the Debian folder in the Xvid files.  i did  dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot  and i got  http://pastebin.com/434048
[08:19] <jgoebel> Xcerca: i think settings is extraneous, no? :)
[08:19] <Xcerca> then ctl alt bkspc,    startx
[08:19] <kairu0> hey all
[08:19] <Xcerca> you need it
[08:19] <dducko> Ive never used it Xcerca
[08:20] <jgoebel> brb
[08:20] <Xcerca> me neither,    just the guide says to install both....
[08:20] <dducko> Wow.. its Quiet..
[08:20] <Xcerca> yea
[08:20] <dducko> How you doing Ubotu
[08:21] <Xcerca> anybody in here have a sound blaster card ?
[08:21] <dducko> I have no idea what my sound card is, something from aopen
[08:21] <dducko> no idea what the chip is..
[08:22] <Xcerca> bur[n] er what driver does it use?
[08:22] <DShepherd> dducko: sudo aptitude install eclipse-sdk
[08:22] <dducko> Im sure the driver disk is in one of my junk drawers..
[08:22] <jgoebel> ok, why would Glxgears still be dog slow?
[08:22] <dducko> It doesnt work.
[08:22] <bur[n] er> Xcerca: snd_emu10k1
[08:22] <dducko> See how your games playn
[08:23] <Xcerca> HEY
[08:23] <Xcerca> thats what i need
[08:23] <thoreauputic> dducko: cat /proc/asound/cards
[08:23] <Xcerca> i can't find it
[08:23] <thoreauputic>    <-- oee your sound card
[08:23] <bur[n] er> it shoudl be automatic
[08:23] <bur[n] er> Xcerca: lsmod |grep snd
[08:23] <dducko> DShepherd, No idea,  Installed Eclipse once in windows, never used it..
[08:23] <dducko> thoreauputic, thanks..*goes to look*
[08:23] <jgoebel> anyone know why glxgears would still be dog slow?
[08:23] <DShepherd> dducko: I am tell you
[08:23] <jgoebel> it's not even outputting fps
[08:23] <DShepherd> telling*
[08:24] <dducko> Ignore it, it doest work
[08:24] <sqz> jgoebel: slow hardware?
[08:24] <bur[n] er> jgoebel: that's not a bug or problem... it's a feature of th new glxgears
[08:24] <jgoebel> sqz: no
[08:24] <jgoebel> bur[n] er: whatever :)
[08:24] <jgoebel> sqz: new hardware
[08:24] <bur[n] er> glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[08:24] <dducko> No seriously, got brought up in here a few dayse ago..
[08:24] <bur[n] er> jgoebel: i'm not being sarcastic... try that ^---
[08:25] <Xcerca> bur[n] er  ,  ok i see it,   it just isn't in synapic....
[08:25] <jgoebel> bur[n] er: wow
[08:25] <jgoebel> bur[n] er: people
[08:25] <jgoebel> sheesh
[08:25] <jgoebel> 7200 fps
[08:25] <bur[n] er> Xcerca: it's nto a package... it's a kernel module
[08:25] <jgoebel> that's crazy
[08:25] <bur[n] er> it's not a benchmark :P  who cares the number
[08:26] <goldbrick> 7200 fps on what??
[08:26] <jgoebel> um
[08:26] <dducko> lmao, if i put the terminal over it  i can get it up to over 3200
[08:26] <jgoebel> goldbrick: glxgears
[08:26] <jgoebel> what is that fireworks screen saver?
[08:26] <jgoebel> is it still around?
[08:26] <Xcerca> how can i install the kernel module ?
[08:26] <dducko> seeing it, its only like 800
[08:26] <Xcerca> are you using at with ALSA ?
[08:26] <bur[n] er> Xcerca: it's already installed if you saw it in that lsmod list
[08:26] <viviersf> hmmm
[08:26] <viviersf> how do i get the whole x.org off
[08:26] <viviersf> in 1 go ?
[08:26] <bur[n] er> Xcerca: yes... snd* indicates an ALSA driver
[08:26] <sqz> are you talking about the gears screensaver?
[08:27] <bur[n] er> viviersf: ubuntu-desktop
[08:27] <viviersf> bur[n] er, nope
[08:27] <viviersf> thx nways
[08:27] <viviersf> got it
[08:28] <jgoebel> anyone?
[08:28] <jgoebel> the fireworks with the moon and clouds and stuff?
[08:28] <dducko> I hate that screensaver.....
[08:28] <Madpilot> jgoebel: yeah, it's still in Breezy, but w/o sound
[08:28] <dducko> And yeah, its around somewhere...
[08:28] <jgoebel> i want to try it on this crazy video card
[08:28] <jgoebel> Madpilot: what's the name?
[08:28] <jgoebel> Madpilot: sound isn't any loss :)
[08:28] <dducko> W/o Sound.. might not be so bad...
[08:29] <Madpilot> jgoebel: no idea of the name - I keep my screensaver on "random" and it went past last night while I was reading...
[08:29] <J_Element> hey can any one tell me if i can install a software that is for windows on ubuntu
[08:29] <dducko> Lol.. I had it set to random.. never saw that one before, was in another room, and sound carries weird in my apartment.. thought some idiots where shooting off fireworks outside at 2 am.. was ticked
[08:29] <J_Element> i heard some thing about a simulation program
[08:30] <dducko> J_Element, What software?
[08:30] <jgoebel> Madpilot: i'm not seeing it
[08:30] <polpak> J_Element www.winehq.org
[08:30] <bur[n] er> J_Element: wine
[08:30] <J_Element> polpak,  it allows me to install windows soft as well ?
[08:30] <liquidboy> help, xfce won't load properly. i had nautilus running with it, then randomly the main dock thing dissapeared
[08:30] <grace> hey any body here ever use fscreations
[08:30] <liquidboy> i've reinstalled it... no effect
[08:30] <Madpilot> jgoebel: I'm having a look through the screensaver now too
[08:31] <dducko> J_Element, just out of curiosity, what are you wanting to run?
[08:31] <Xcerca> anybody here post on the ubuntu forums ?
[08:31] <J_Element> a software that would allow me to live support the users on my web
[08:31] <sethk> liquidboy, erase the directory under your home directory that maintains the state.  Probably ~/.xfce
[08:31] <grace> if i can make their stuff run on ubuntu then 500 or 700 teachers would be able to consider getting a new computer with edubuntu installed isntead of winXP
[08:32] <polpak> J_Element, what's it callled?
[08:32] <J_Element> velaro.com
[08:32] <jasonjdp> hey sethk, any idea on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4688 ?
[08:32] <J_Element> thier support desktop software app
[08:32] <DShepherd> good night all
[08:32] <sethk> jasonjdp, let me look
[08:32] <jasonjdp> <3
[08:32] <grace> J_Element, moodle would enable you to live support your users
[08:33] <Madpilot> jgoebel: Skyrocket
[08:33] <J_Element> huh ?
[08:33] <grace> J_Element, what kinda web users do you have to support
[08:33] <J_Element> ive baught the support service from Velaro
[08:33] <drcode> hi all
[08:33] <liquidboy> sethk, can't find a directory called anything like that (yes i have got hidden files showing)
[08:33] <grace> kewl
[08:33] <jgoebel> Madpilot: it's not listed
[08:33] <jgoebel> Madpilot: what installed it?
[08:33] <drcode> if I use | dpkg -l
[08:33] <J_Element> and the only way they can use the live support is thru that
[08:34] <drcode> I then try to remove like
[08:34] <dougsko> hey guys, anyone get a logitech dual action game controller to work?
[08:34] <Madpilot> jgoebel: no idea, AFAIK it's always been installed
[08:34] <drcode> rc  bacula-directo 1.36.1-1       Network backup, recovery and verificatio
[08:34] <drcode> dpkg -t bacula-directo but it dosnt work
[08:34] <liquidboy> sethk, i think ive found one,under ".config" it's got "mouspad" and other xfce related stuff
[08:34] <jgoebel> Madpilot: can you do locate skyrocket
[08:34] <jgoebel> Madpilot: then dpkg -s skyrocket location
[08:34] <sethk> liquidboy, do a find for xfce in the directories under your home directory.  It may be a subdirectory of something under home, rather than directly under home.
[08:34] <jgoebel> Madpilot: it's definatley not in my new install
[08:34] <grace> J_Element, oh i see you want to run their windows client for support on your ubuntu
[08:35] <drcode> so how I can get list of what install and exect name to remove it?
[08:35] <sethk> jasonjdp, that's a syntax error in a package file, but more than that I can't tell.
[08:35] <J_Element> i guess so =\
[08:35] <senectus> can someone test a web page for me please?
[08:35] <sethk> jasonjdp, it's possible that there is machine wide state under /etc, also
[08:35] <Madpilot> jgoebel: it might be a leftover from Hoary - I dist-upgraded this box
[08:35] <grace> i sorta wanna do same
[08:35] <jasonjdp> ;-(
[08:35] <jgoebel> Madpilot: well it's in the rss-glx package
[08:35] <grace> fscreations testview software
[08:36] <sethk> liquidboy, I was typing while you were typing also.  :)
[08:36] <jgoebel> Madpilot: but not showing in my xscreensaver list
[08:36] <Madpilot> jgoebel: hmm, no idea - it shows up on mine...
[08:36] <jgoebel> it runs
[08:36] <liquidboy> seth, brb, have to restart into gnome (i'm in xfce now)
[08:36] <jgoebel> it's beautiful
[08:37] <jgoebel> but not in xscreensaver :(
[08:37] <senectus> can someone test a web page for me please?
[08:37] <polpak> senectus, url?
[08:37] <senectus> polpak, www.modmeup.net
[08:37] <Madpilot> jgoebel: do you have the .desktop file for it? that might be how XScreensaver finds it? (why else would it have a .desktop file?)
[08:38] <dducko> senectus, extremely slow...
[08:38] <jgoebel> Madpilot: yes
[08:38] <jgoebel> i have .desktop
[08:38] <polpak> senectus, yeah, it's slow
[08:38] <skobel> anyone know how to get mythtv setup?
[08:38] <senectus> dducko polpak, damn.. how slow? can you traceroute for me?
[08:38] <rixth> Is there a program/script that will recurse through directories & tell you how many lines (ie, lines of code) there are?
[08:39] <jgoebel> Madpilot: kind of annoying this is
[08:39] <Madpilot> jgoebel:  /usr/share/xscreensaver/config/skyrocket.xml <-- got that too?
[08:39] <jgoebel> Madpilot: No1Viking
[08:39] <grace> !wine
[08:39] <jgoebel> Madpilot: no
[08:40] <Glossary> Hi, guys anyone can help me with my nokia phone?
[08:40] <jgoebel> Madpilot: oh yes i do
[08:40] <drcode> any one know what is evms?
[08:40] <grace> ~wine
[08:40] <drcode> for what do I need it?
[08:41] <jgoebel> Madpilot: it's part of the rss-glx package which is installed by default
[08:41] <liquidboy> couldn't find anything called ".xfce"
[08:41] <Madpilot> jgoebel: but yours doesn't show up in XScreensaver?
[08:41] <polpak> !find wine
[08:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'wine' (8 shown): libwine ;; libwine-cil ;; libwine-dev ;; wine ;; wine-dev ;; wine-doc ;; winesetuptk ;; xwine.
[08:42] <jgoebel> Madpilot: no, it does not
[08:42] <J_Element> polpak, How do i install the software ?
[08:42] <liquidboy> but i did find an "xfce4-session" and an "xfce" (under /etc/xdg)
[08:42] <polpak> J_Element, synaptic or apt-get ?
[08:42] <Glossary> sudo apt-get install wine?
[08:42] <Madpilot> jgoebel: bugzilla.ubuntu.com - file a bug, and see where it goes
[08:43] <jgoebel> Madpilot: ok, i don't care that much, this is a friends pc
[08:43] <jgoebel> Madpilot: but very weird
[08:43] <J_Element> i mean how do install the software that is for windows
[08:43] <J_Element> i got the wine
[08:43] <intelikey> oh my.... i borkd somethin'         any one here that knows how to configure init scripts to set up localhost properly ?      what goes on the end of this line "HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname`  "  ???   is it ${HOSTNAME}  ?
[08:43] <J_Element> i did the  apt-get install wine ....
[08:43] <J_Element> and i ran the program & every thin
[08:43] <polpak> J_Element, go to www.winehq.org and read their documentation
[08:43] <jgoebel> no errors in the xml
[08:43] <jgoebel> no idea
[08:43] <Steil> J_Element, wine ProgramName.exe
[08:44] <liquidboy> ...
[08:46] <liquidboy> how do i get permanant root privelages
[08:46] <liquidboy> ?
[08:46] <HiddenWolf> liquidboy, sudo -s
[08:46] <drcode> I need littel info
[08:47] <drcode> if I want to install php in ubuntu
[08:47] <drcode> I can use apt-get install php?
[08:47] <Madpilot> !tell drcode about apache
[08:47] <Madpilot> drcode: ubotu's URL has all the info you need
[08:47] <drcode> thanx
[08:48] <liquidboy> whats the command to delete a directory?
[08:48] <Xcerca> bur[n] er   i found the problem,  now i just need the solution
[08:48] <dducko> rm -r
[08:50] <Xcerca> on my volume control  EMU10K1 PCM , PCM Send, and PCM Send Routing need to be turned up, the only problem is that the sliders are stuck...
[08:50] <jasonjdp> sethk, you there? i did dpkg-buildpackage without the -rfakeroot and it compiled (very length) and i noticed some errors... but it now lets me play xvid avis... just without sound... what is up with -rfakeroot? have any ideas how to
[08:50] <Xcerca> they move then snap back in place...
[08:50] <jasonjdp> compile it
[08:50] <rob_p> senectus:  I notice that the html code for your site makes many references to <IP_ADDRESS> (private IP address space) for things like headers, graphics, css and rss files.  I suspect that this contributes more to the delays in your Website than anything else.  Waiting for timeouts on that IP address, for each reference to it takes time and makes your site slow.
[08:53] <sethk> jasonjdp, I'm not sure, let me look around a bit for that keyword
[08:53] <jasonjdp> thnx for the help btw, you rock
[08:54] <desmond2020> hi
[08:54] <desmond2020> i am new to linux, how to mount multiple ntfs partition? thanx for ur help
[08:55] <aftertaf> !tell desmond2020 about mount
[08:55] <sethk> jasonjdp, ah, fakeroot is related to file permissions.  It means "as if root were really xyz", because some files are owned by xyz but root is installing them.
[08:56] <jasonjdp> ahhh
[08:57] <sethk> jasonjdp, the thing is, you use it when creating a package, not when installing one
[08:57] <sethk> jasonjdp, maybe as part of installing one package it creates anotherr, but that sounds unlikely.
[08:57] <grace> hey when I run sudo apt-get update ther is an Ignore flag beside the wine.sourceforge  repo
[08:58] <J_Element> whats the script that u use to auto mount ur non-linux drives ?
[08:58] <grace> how do I fix that
[08:58] <grace> why would that happen
[08:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know how to get festival to work?
[08:58] <jasonjdp> yeah, i found -r is remove for certain items in man dpkg... not really sure whats going on though
[08:58] <jasonjdp> its removing fakeroot?
[08:58] <sethk> jasonjdp, that would be strange, but I suppose it's possible
[08:59] <jasonjdp> which is why its not finding the fakeroot command? lol...
[08:59] <sethk> jasonjdp, probably you have to install the tools for _creating_ packages, to get fakeroot installed on your box.
[09:00] <sethk> jasonjdp, whoever created this package never tested it on a machine that doesn't create packages.
[09:00] <polpak> jasonjdp, apt-get install build-essentials
[09:00] <jasonjdp> ive got build essentials actually
[09:00] <senectus> rob_p,  thanks for that.. I was wondering that was going to cause any problems.. I'll see if I can fix it.
[09:00] <lightsource> can I get some 1 on 1 help with deleting unnessicary lines in GRUB 1.5??
[09:01] <sethk> polpak, is fakeroot in essentials, or perhaps in another package?  You could argue that it isn't really essential.
[09:01] <sethk> polpak, or you could just look and see what files are installed for essentials.  :)
[09:01] <Ep|phany> anyone know of a program that can mount isos
[09:02] <jasonjdp> ill try installing fakeroot by itself
[09:02] <jasonjdp> found it in aptitude search
[09:02] <grace> hey when I run sudo apt-get update ther is an Ignore flag beside the wine.sourceforge  repo
[09:02] <rabeldable> Ap|phany: you can mount iso's as a loop device
[09:02] <sethk> Ep|phany, mount
[09:02] <jasonjdp> omg
[09:02] <jasonjdp> looks like its working
[09:02] <sethk> Ep|phany, see the -o loop flag
[09:02] <grace> kewl
[09:03] <lightsource> can I get some 1 on 1 help with deleting unnessicary lines in GRUB 1.5??
[09:03] <Ep|phany> nope
[09:03] <grace> i thought mount could do it
[09:03] <sethk> jasonjdp, incredible, I actually figured something out, sort of, tonight (with help of course)
[09:03] <sethk> grace, mount can do it
[09:03] <Ep|phany> sethk- where is it
[09:03] <rabeldable> http://chipcuccio.us/docs-and-howtos/mounting-iso-images-to-a-local-filesystem/
[09:03] <sethk> lightsource, why don't you put your grub.conf on a pastebot
[09:03] <jasonjdp> lol, after all that... im getting the same error as when i was doing the standard linux install, not the debian specific one.... lol *cry*
[09:04] <grace> mount -o loop to mount an iso doesnt work
[09:04] <grace> sethk, is that what you moon
[09:04] <grace> sethk, is that what you mean
[09:04] <sethk> grace, sure it does.
[09:04] <sethk> grace, however you need to have loopback support enabled in your kernel
[09:04] <rabeldable> are you using -t is09660 ?
[09:04] <Ep|phany> how do i check
[09:04] <grace> hey when I run sudo apt-get update ther is an Ignore flag beside the wine.sourceforge  repo
[09:05] <sethk> Ep|phany, where is what?
[09:05] <grace> how do i make it not ignore  the wine repository
[09:05] <sethk> Ep|phany, I lost the thread  here  :)
[09:05] <Ep|phany> would this work
[09:05] <Ep|phany> sudo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide
[09:05] <darksoul> how do i install ati drivers on breezy ubuntu 64bit
[09:05] <grace> Ep|phany, when you have the mount command for iso's worked out
[09:06] <Ep|phany> what command would that be
[09:06] <grace> you can add it to /etc/fstab   with a little change in syntax to have the iso auto-mount at boot time
[09:06] <Ep|phany> i just want to mount it once or twice
[09:06] <Ep|phany> not at startup
[09:07] <rabeldable> Ep|phany: did you check the link i sent?
[09:07] <Ep|phany> yea
[09:07] <grace> well you just leave off the auto flag and it will wait for a nudge befor mounting
[09:08] <grace> any body have ati video drivers working on amd 64
[09:08] <Ep|phany> how do i create an iso from a whole bunch of files
[09:08] <grace> same as burn cd
[09:08] <grace> just burn the iso to disc
[09:08] <lightsource> sethk, what is pastebot?
[09:09] <Ep|phany> my dvd drives screwed up
[09:09] <grace> K3B
[09:09] <grace> K3B to prepare iso
[09:09] <grace> i think
[09:09] <darksoul> how do i install ati drivers on breezy ubuntu 64bit
[09:10] <rabeldable> Ep|phany: check out mkisofs
[09:10] <Ep|phany> im getting k3b
[09:10] <grace> mkisofs is a tad more direct
[09:10] <darksoul> anyone..
[09:10] <Ep|phany> theres no program that mounts isos that has a gui is there
[09:10] <sethk> lightsource, there is a url for one in the channel topic.  It's a place to post text so that everyone can see it.
[09:11] <sethk> Ep|phany, you use mkisofs to create the iso file
[09:11] <darksoul> NoUse: you here
[09:11] <Ep|phany> k
[09:11] <grace> does the bot have anything on ati
[09:11] <sethk> Ep|phany, k3b is a GUI wrapper that uses mkisofs
[09:11] <darksoul> not for breezy
[09:11] <rabeldable> Ep|phany: there are some things in linux that you will just have to use the command line for
[09:11] <sethk> Ep|phany, so k3b is easier to use
[09:11] <sethk> Ep|phany, although mkisofs is not really difficult to use.
[09:11] <darksoul> well it wont work for me anyway not on ubuntu64bit
[09:11] <grace> darksoul, im no use either
[09:11] <darksoul> which is weird
[09:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> sethk i think gnomebake is easier to use by far
[09:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnomebaker
[09:12] <darksoul> !ati
[09:12] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[09:12] <grace> i ve decided to stop using ati and only go with nvidia video from now on
[09:12] <rabeldable> darksoul: if I had ati hardware I could help... but sorry
[09:12] <Ep|phany> k
[09:12] <aftertaf> k3b doesnt exactly need an engineer degree either
[09:12] <grace> especially with amd 64
[09:12] <sethk> BROKEN_LADDER, haven't tried it; the gui tools are certainly easier if you aren't familiar with the CLI tools.
[09:12] <ud> hi
[09:12] <sethk> aftertaf, I think he meant easier than mkisofs, not easier than k3b.  :)
[09:13] <aftertaf> lol
[09:13] <darksoul> grace: meh well, i am having ram problems atm, if i add a second ram stick, the entire system crashes, somtimes i can login to gnome, somtimes everything crashes, sometimes things crash at random times
[09:13] <Ep|phany> how do i create isos with k3b
[09:13] <ud> hey , i am new here
[09:13] <grace> darksoul, could be mother board
[09:13] <darksoul> Ep
[09:13] <sethk> darksoul, hardware problem.  Probably mismatched speeds of the ram sticks
[09:13] <grace> i have a box here on win xp
[09:13] <grace> intel 533 says 64 mb ram
[09:13] <darksoul> sethk: really? how would i configure that.. i came up with taht idea to
[09:13] <grace> I put in another just so it would be smooth while I cleaned it
[09:14] <grace> and it still only reports 64 mb ram
[09:14] <darksoul> grace: get a new motherboard = 85$
[09:14] <grace> not mine
[09:14] <sethk> darksoul, some motherboards have clock speed jumpers.  Some allow the configuration in setup.  For some you can't change it, you just have to use one particular memory type
[09:14] <darksoul> grace: new chip = 120$ unless you get a package deal -- oh lol
[09:15] <sethk> darksoul, but there is also a case where a problem is caused by the speeds being different, although neither is wrong
[09:15] <Ep|phany> can k3b make isos?
[09:15] <grace> I had them buy this nice shiny new amd 64 2.5g with 512mb now running edubuntu
[09:15] <aftertaf> Ep|phany:  probably, but never done it...
[09:15] <sethk> darksoul, have you tried switching them?  Making the first the second and the second the first?
[09:15] <liquidboy> i've uninstalled xfce, but it still loads with nautilus, and won't load the main dock/panel - help!
[09:15] <darksoul> sethk: im guessing the rams are conflicting, since obviosly its working or else it couldent store anything...
[09:15] <intelikey> hehhe i fixed it.      :)
[09:15] <sethk> darksoul, in case the (currently) first is slower, and the MB senses the speed from the first stick.
[09:15] <liquidboy> (oh, and i reinstalled it)
[09:15] <grace> just retrieving files off the xp box so it all runs in ubuntu
[09:15] <darksoul> sethk: yes i also bought a new ram stick
[09:15] <sethk> darksoul, there is a small chance of that working, but it is easy to try.
[09:16] <darksoul> sethk: my motherboard is NF8-V
[09:16] <aftertaf> Ep|phany:  che
[09:16] <sethk> BRB
[09:16] <grace> so I swapped ram entirely and put in two different pairs of 64MB ram sticks and both times it still only reports 64 instead of 128
[09:16] <grace> piece of crap
[09:16] <grace> ;^)
[09:16] <grace> amd64 yeah
[09:16] <darksoul> sethk: http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=244 i have been asking them forever, they cant come up with anything
[09:16] <grace> ;^)
[09:17] <darksoul> grace: amd 64bit rocks
[09:17] <liquidboy> ...
[09:17] <aftertaf> Ep|phany:  yes, you prepare the cd, open the burn dialog and choose the 'only create image' option
[09:17] <aftertaf> piece o' cake
[09:17] <intelikey> ;v)
[09:17] <grace> but im having trouble getting wine on there
[09:17] <aftertaf> grace:  drink beer then ;)
[09:17] <aftertaf> wine can be a real nightmare
[09:18] <aftertaf> tried qemu?
[09:18] <J_Element> what do u when a program freezes :S
[09:18] <grace> i might have to run ubuntu i386 just to get better backwards windoz comptibility
[09:18] <darksoul> sethk: that help
[09:19] <grace> !qemu
[09:19] <ubotu> somebody said qemu was an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[09:19] <grace> hm
[09:19] <grace> i like that
[09:19] <liquidboy> whats the name of the xfce main dock/panel?
[09:20] <lite> name?
[09:20] <intelikey> now i have [r-alt] +[f#]   tty13-24 access too
[09:20] <liquidboy> yeah, i want to try and start it from the terminal. it hasnt started when i started xfce
[09:20] <darksoul> btw how much is gnome supposed to run on as ram
[09:20] <sethk> darksoul, I'd interpret that to mean you can use ONLY ddr 400
[09:20] <lite> liquidboy, xfce4-panel?
[09:21] <BooZee> i have a USB web camera. when I connect it, nothing happens, and I don't know how can I use it..
[09:21] <darksoul> sethk: yea.. and i am using it
[09:21] <lite> liquidboy, did you try the tab key? ;)
[09:21] <Madpilot> J_Element: click on the "Close Window" X in the top right corner a few times; that should bring up the Gnome Kill App thing to put it out of it's misery...
[09:21] <sethk> darksoul, could simply be a bad stick.  We had a rash of bad memory from Samsung recently
[09:21] <darksoul> i mean omg im using one precent of my ram and 50% ram just using this, and a web broser
[09:21] <darksoul> sethk: yea. however, i bought a new stick and tried that
[09:22] <Madpilot> BooZee: try opening GThumb - it seems to talk to cameras quite well
[09:22] <J_Element> nop ! nuttin happened
[09:22] <darksoul> sethk: and everything works fine on all of them, its if i ADD it that everything starts crashing
[09:22] <liquidboy> how do i stop nautilus from running?
[09:22] <grace> i wonder if qemu runs happy on amd64
[09:23] <sethk> darksoul, you mean one stick works, no matter which stick, but two sticks fail?
[09:23] <darksoul> yes
[09:23] <darksoul> one time i got gnome to boot up, but things crashed at random times
[09:23] <sethk> darksoul, that's definitely a mother board problem.
[09:23] <Madpilot> darksoul: that sounds more like a motherboard problem than a RAM problem, then
[09:23] <liquidboy> when i type "xfce4-panel" (to start the panel, i get this error (xfce4-panel:9197): xfdesktop-menu-WARNING **: xfdesktop: Could not locate a menu definition file
[09:23] <liquidboy> (xfce4-panel:9197): xfdesktop-menu-CRITICAL **: desktop_menu_parse: assertion `filename != NULL' failedSegmentation fault
[09:23] <Ep|phany> i cant create a folder in /mnt it sys i dont have permisions how can i fix this
[09:23] <darksoul> sethk: great. its prob the speed or somthing. how would i fix this
[09:23] <BooZee> Madpilot: hmm.. I loaded the program, but I can't seem to find where is it's camera features...
[09:24] <geneo93> sudo is your friend'
[09:24] <Ep|phany> i gotta go threw command line?
[09:24] <grace> darksoul, hmmm could be custom bios ram settings
[09:24] <sethk> darksoul, you really can't fix mother boards these days.  everything is soldered in.  Try to get the manufacturer to replace it; it's defective.
[09:24] <darksoul> AND HOW MUCH BLOODY RAM IS GNOME SUPPOSED TO EAT UP WITH XCHAT AND A WEBBROSER RUNNING? just wonderin..since its eating up 263mb
[09:24] <grace> darksoul, how long have you had the board
[09:24] <sethk> darksoul, you can run memtest to prove it, then run memtest on another mobo with the same sticks
[09:24] <Madpilot> BooZee: I don't own a digi camera myself, but the one time I used it, GThumb had an "Import From Camera" function in one of it's menus
[09:24] <geneo93> yes sudo mkdir /mnt/bla bla
[09:25] <sethk> darksoul, the web browsers tend to gobble up unbelievable amounts of memory
[09:25] <intelikey> Ep|phany: sudo mkdir <foldername>
[09:25] <sethk> darksoul, which browser are you using?
[09:25] <Steil> Is there a way to make rhythmbox start as a tryicon only?
[09:25] <grace> sethk, good one
[09:25] <darksoul> sethk: did, one came up with errors, the other 2 works fine
[09:25] <darksoul> sethk: firefox
[09:25] <Madpilot> darksoul: I'll 2nd what sethk said, web browsers are RAM pigs...
[09:25] <darksoul> 263mb now
[09:25] <sethk> darksoul, firefox is a pig.  unfortunately the others are too.
[09:25] <intelikey> Ep|phany: or you could own /mnt    or chmod it  :)
[09:25] <Ep|phany> whats the command to move a file ?
[09:26] <Madpilot> Ep|phany: mv
[09:26] <intelikey> more than one way to skin a cat.
[09:26] <darksoul> sethk: it wouldent be a problem if i had my other stick in, right now its load is at 53%
[09:26] <Ep|phany> so sudo mv filenameandpath whereiwant to move it?
[09:26] <grace> darksoul, its not wise to mess with your bios over irc if you are not familiar with the bios
[09:26] <jasonjdp> current xvid situation:  so yeah, ive gotten past the fakeroot problem, now i get the same problem as when i was doing the generic linux install, not the debian one... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4690
[09:26] <Madpilot> Ep|phany: that looks right, yeah
[09:26] <darksoul> sethk: oh and the ram works on both slots as long as 2 sticks arent in so how would i fix this
[09:26] <sirexas> sethk, use ELinks web browser, it is very fast web browser
[09:27] <grace> the box i was given has a password locked bios so I cant even look at the settings
[09:27] <darksoul> grace: thats nice, the people who made the motherbaord cant do crap either, so im willing to take a risk ok!?!
[09:27] <Madpilot> darksoul: replace your motherboard?
[09:27] <intelikey> [cp file dest ]  && rm file       lol
[09:27] <darksoul> Madpilot: send me money?
[09:27] <grace> grace, when it comes to providing input on your bios
[09:27] <darksoul> Madpilot: i spent over 1000$ on this thing alredy
[09:27] <grace> there has to be a warned ya so disclaimer to go with it
[09:28] <Madpilot> grace: some mobos have a reset jumper - that'll remove the password if you want
[09:28] <grace> true
[09:28] <grace> but all my time on that box is gratous
[09:28] <darksoul> sethk: so im stuck right
[09:28] <Madpilot> darksoul: recently? if so, make a fuss - I had to RMA a new mobo early this year, it fried itself after I'd had it six weeks...
[09:29] <darksoul> Madpilot: lol...well i bought it from frys..thankfully i bought the motherboard there and chip thats it
[09:29] <geneo93> darksoul:  try resetting bios after you install both sticks
[09:29] <grace> its not like the 50 bucks I made, on buying and setting up the replacement, really covers my time
[09:29] <darksoul> geneo93: you mean clear cmos? i do that every time
[09:29] <geneo93> yes
[09:29] <android> how do I upgrade to 686 kernel?
[09:30] <darksoul> android: fresh install
[09:30] <geneo93> then your memory controler is crap
[09:30] <grace> darksoul, did you try a bios update
[09:30] <J_Element> can any one help me with this wine soft ?
[09:30] <darksoul> grace: nope, dont know how, sicne the damn updates come in .exe
[09:30] <android> darksoul, I thought it just was an apt-get command
[09:30] <darksoul> android: what are you trying to get?
[09:31] <grace> J_Element, im still look in at the wine soft scenario
[09:31] <Ep|phany> how would i delte a folder? sudo del /mnt/war
[09:31] <darksoul> omg cpu usage: 1% ram usage 53% hahaha funny..
[09:31] <geneo93> yes you can install i686 kernal with apt
[09:31] <J_Element> k
[09:31] <grace> J_Element, i put wine.sourceforge.net in my repository list and atp-get ignores it for some reason
[09:31] <dducko> rm -r
[09:31] <android> I'm now running the i386 kernel, but I want i686
[09:31] <J_Element> hrm
[09:31] <dducko> Ep|phany, rm -r is for folders
[09:31] <darksoul> http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=244 thats my motherboard..suggestions are nice
[09:31] <grace> so I cant go on with the next step
[09:31] <Ep|phany> so sudo rm -r mnt/war
[09:32] <lite> android, so install i686 kernel?
[09:32] <J_Element> u should put the universe & multiverse in ur repos
[09:32] <grace> have that too
[09:32] <intelikey> that should end the war Ep|phany
[09:32] <dducko> sudo apt-get install linux-image-686
[09:32] <grace> but I probably need the cvs from source forge cause im on amd64
[09:32] <sethk> andrew_, you can build the kernel for 686.
[09:33] <Ep|phany> keeps saying no file or directory
[09:33] <sethk> sorry, android
[09:33] <sethk> not andrew_
[09:33] <grace> anyone else here try to get wine running
[09:33] <J_Element> system/administration/settings/Reposatories/
[09:33] <sethk> Ep|phany, /mnt, not mnt
[09:33] <J_Element> i got it running
[09:33] <darksoul> sethk: its just pissing me off since i spent over 1000$ on this thing
[09:33] <Enquest> Where can i submit bugs?
[09:33] <grace> J_Element, are you on amd64
[09:33] <Ep|phany> thanks
[09:33] <J_Element> all i did was add the multiverse & universe packages
[09:33] <geneo93> Ep|phany:  thats because you didn't put / before mnt
[09:33] <dducko> !bugs
[09:33] <intelikey> !bug
[09:33] <android> ok, thanks.. the linux-image-686 will sure do it
[09:33] <ubotu> To file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ for packages in main or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages
[09:33] <J_Element> nop .....
[09:33] <darksoul> sethk: oh well i need a new motherboard anyway...since i now have 3x512mb ram sticks, and this only has 2 slots
[09:34] <grace> darksoul, kewl
[09:34] <grace> darksoul, what processor
[09:34] <Corin_777> hey
[09:34] <darksoul> grace: no not cool. sine its close to christmas, and its a amd64bit, sampron, 3000
[09:34] <grace> hhmmm
[09:34] <grace> not bad board
[09:34] <J_Element> is there an internet explorer proggie for ubuntu ?
[09:34] <grace> i mean chip
[09:35] <J_Element> the software im tryin to run needs it :S
[09:35] <Ep|phany> shit the $ mount command doesnt work
[09:35] <darksoul> grace: that is the chip
[09:35] <grace> 974 socket though
[09:35] <grace> I just got this allinone msi board for a teacher
[09:35] <darksoul> grace: and it is a nice board, no its 754 soket, the board rocks. this is why im getting pissed at the ram
[09:35] <Ep|phany> how can i give myself root or admin
[09:35] <grace> sempron 2500 512MB DDR400
[09:35] <grace> Ep|phany, sudo
[09:35] <intelikey> Ep|phany: sudo bash
[09:35] <geneo93> Ep|phany:  you need to use sudo for all root calls
[09:35] <Ep|phany> oh
[09:36] <Ep|phany> thanks
[09:36] <sethk> darksoul, if one of those sticks fails memory testing, you won't be able to use it with any MB
[09:36] <darksoul> grace: they said somthing about one channel controler...any ideas
[09:36] <grace> true
[09:36] <grace> yeah
[09:36] <grace> ram
[09:36] <grace> dual channel ram is a no no
[09:36] <grace> single channel ram
[09:36] <intelikey> geneo93: that assumes default setup
[09:36] <grace> check your sticks dude
[09:36] <sethk> grace, the newest chipsets remove that restriction
[09:36] <geneo93> well i use su
[09:36] <darksoul> sethk: yea. true. however they all could boot up and run..as long as there sepret, which brings me to wonderin what i do if its a single channel motherboard
[09:36] <sethk> grace, you can use one or two track in the same board
[09:37] <grace> are those chipsets on the socket 974 board?
[09:37] <robin> gg
[09:37] <darksoul> grace socket 754
[09:37] <sethk> darksoul, single channel doesn't mean single stick.
[09:37] <intelikey> geneo93: i always set the root passwd,  durring install.
[09:37] <sethk> grace, I'm not sure.  I work on embedded computers
[09:37] <grace> sethk, unless this board notes in particular about non dual channel
[09:37] <sethk> grace, the intel 915 chipset, e.g.
[09:37] <sethk> grace, yes, true
[09:37] <Enquest> hmm, my mouse somethimes dissapears and doesn't come back
[09:37] <sethk> grace, there are still plenty of boards around that can only use one or the other
[09:38] <darksoul> sethk: i know which is why im getting more then mad, i know i have to edit it in bios, i just dont know how..and i know its bios problem since it boots fine..its almost as if the computer gets confuesed...
[09:38] <intelikey> Enquest: usb mouse ?
[09:38] <grace> darksoul, sempron is a socket 974 vs socket 939
[09:38] <geneo93> intelikey:  thats not possible with ubuntu
[09:38] <sethk> geneo93, you can set the root password with   sudo passwd
[09:38] <Ep|phany> i mounted the image but i cant see it
[09:38] <Enquest> intelikey, yes
[09:38] <geneo93> sethk:  i know that
[09:38] <intelikey> geneo93: shows how little you know about your own system
[09:38] <darksoul> grace: really? since this motherboard only supports 754 and socket 754 was labled on the chip
[09:38] <Enquest> intelikey, it happend now two times this month
[09:38] <grace> darksoul, have you ever seen a bios before?
[09:38] <sethk> darksoul, quite possible.  Unfortunately, only the manufacturer, or perhaps the people who wrote the BIOS, can tell you what to do.
[09:38] <mal1> does that totem firefox plugin actually work?
[09:38] <mal1> i have yet to see it
[09:38] <grace> right my numbers are konfuzed
[09:38] <darksoul> grace: yes, i just dont know how to configure it
[09:39] <intelikey> Enquest: unplug and replug it when it does that.
[09:39] <grace> socket 754 just like this board I got hear
[09:39] <Enquest> intelikey, isn't that a bug?
[09:39] <darksoul> sethk: this is the second day im wating for a reply
[09:39] <sethk> grace, some of the ddr motherboards have a slew of DDR related configuration parameters that are mysterious unless you read the chipset docs thoroughly
[09:39] <Corin_777> where is the sources.list found?
[09:39] <sethk> darksoul, good luck.
[09:39] <intelikey> Enquest: probably.   you can file one if you like.
[09:39] <sethk> Corin_777, /etc/apt
[09:39] <Corin_777> thanks
[09:40] <darksoul> Corin_777: /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:40] <Enquest> intelikey, then I have to register ...
[09:40] <Corin_777> because when ever i use apt-get, ap-cache etc
[09:40] <Enquest> :(
[09:40] <grace> darksoul, bios updates are usually considered to be rather straight forward
[09:40] <Corin_777> it says
[09:40] <aftertaf> grace:  i'm testing qemu now to see if it installs xp as a VM on ubuntu :)
[09:40] <Corin_777> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/pastebin/view.php?id=37
[09:40] <Ep|phany> i did $ mount -o loop -t iso9660 -r /home/image/rh73-i386.iso /mnt/iso/rh73 but i cant see it mounted anywhere
[09:40] <darksoul> grace: ok how would i update it since the files are in a .exe...
[09:40] <grace> make a floppy and reboot
[09:40] <grace> aftertaf, kewl
[09:41] <grace> strange problem the win32 on amd64 linux
[09:41] <Ep|phany> can anyone help
[09:41] <intelikey> sethk: & geneo93; you can also set the root passwd durring install in any install mode by entering a blank user and making it loop back, it will then ask for you to set a root passwd, followed by the option to add a user.
[09:41] <darksoul> sethk: i did get this reply.. The 754 processors only have single channel memory controllers so nothing you can do will get you dual channel on a 754 board.
[09:41] <darksoul>
[09:41] <Corin_777> ??
[09:41] <grace> darksoul, usually you download two files from the board provider
[09:41] <intelikey> just fyi
[09:42] <darksoul> grace: exe = not working on linux
[09:42] <Corin_777> which is newer, hoary or breezy?
[09:42] <sethk> darksoul, well, that's true in this case.
[09:42] <Corin_777> !upgrade
[09:42] <lite> Corin_777, breezy
[09:42] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:42] <aftertaf> grace:   qemu -boot d -k fr -hda win2000_disk -cdrom /dev/cdrom
[09:42] <darksoul> Corin_777: breezy
[09:42] <grace> darksoul, usually that would only be to raw write a floppy for you
[09:42] <sethk> darksoul, you can download a bootable DOS floppy or CD
[09:42] <Corin_777> ok
[09:42] <Ep|phany> anyone here do mounting
[09:42] <Andypoo> darksoul: What motherbaord?
[09:43] <Corin_777> and where is the upgrade guide?
[09:43] <Andypoo> darksoul: Most of the BIOS EXEs are actually self-extracting zips or rars.
[09:43] <Corin_777> i cant remember what to say to ubotu...
[09:43] <aftertaf> grace:  once i created a disk image with qemu-image . . . and you can emulate amd64 with itn, so i imagine the reverse is true
[09:43] <grace> you need a dos boot floppy and
[09:43] <intelikey> Ep|phany: mount question ?
[09:43] <Ep|phany> i
[09:43] <Ep|phany> i did $ mount -o loop -t iso9660 -r /home/image/rh73-i386.iso /mnt/iso/rh73 but i cant see it mounted anywhere
[09:43] <darksoul> Andypoo: its a exe self-extracting, built on windows.
[09:43] <grace> then copy those files to the floppy
[09:43] <Andypoo> darksoul: If you have RAR for Linux, just use that to extract from the exe.
[09:43] <darksoul> sethk: sp o giess the real question is, will a bios update solve the problem
[09:43] <grace> when it boots into dos then you can run the exe that updates the bios
[09:44] <geneo93> Ep|phany:  you need sudo
[09:44] <grace> darksoul, only if the state of bios is your problem
[09:44] <intelikey> Ep|phany: sudo mount -o loop /home/image/rh73-i386.iso  /mnt/iso/rh73
[09:44] <Andypoo> grace: That generally doesn't work because the extracted files are too big to also fit on the floppy, and the self-extractors are GUI :(
[09:44] <grace> but that would be the last soft possibility to rule out
[09:44] <Ep|phany> yea i did that
[09:44] <Ep|phany> but i cant see the mounted stuff anywhere in Computer
[09:45] <Andypoo> If you have a newer motherboard, you may not even need a bootable floppy.  Just the image on a floppy and enter the BIOS utility from normal BIOS.
[09:45] <Madpilot> !tell Corin_777 about breezyupgrade
[09:45] <Ep|phany> its just in /mnt
[09:45] <Andypoo> Which is somewhat handy.
[09:45] <geneo93> your trying to mount an iso image
[09:45] <grace> Andypoo, you can get dos boot images and use a linux raw write to do it
[09:45] <intelikey> Ep|phany: that assumes there is a mount point called /mnt/iso/rh73      does it exist ?
[09:45] <Andypoo> grace: <nod>  That helps too :)
[09:45] <Ep|phany> yea
[09:45] <Corin_777> :D
[09:45] <intelikey> and you did use sudo ?
[09:45] <Andypoo> But only if necessary.
[09:45] <Madpilot> Andypoo: very handy - my mobo has that - no need for Windows-only utils!
[09:45] <intelikey> no error message Ep|phany ?
[09:45] <grace> then the bios flash util itself has to fit on the floppy or the whole concept would stop there
[09:46] <Ep|phany> nope
[09:46] <grace> and the bios data file as well
[09:46] <Ep|phany> am i supposed to enable something?
[09:46] <Andypoo> grace: Yah -- that's another reason it is so handy to have BIOS' with built-in utils :)
[09:46] <Ep|phany> before i did the mount
[09:46] <Andypoo> Just find a floppy with enough room for the BIOS image and away you go.
[09:46] <Madpilot> grace: Asus mobos have that - have for years
[09:46] <darksoul> grace: is there any free programs out there that will extract a .exe
[09:46] <intelikey> Ep|phany: ls /mnt/iso/rh73
[09:46] <Andypoo> Most Gigabyte boards have it now.
[09:46] <Andypoo> Probably quite a few others too.
[09:47] <Andypoo> I don't think DFI do at the moment, although they have memtest86+ built into their BIOS, which is funky++ :)
[09:47] <Andypoo> A BIOS option to turn on memtest86+ on boot is useful :)
[09:47] <grace> darksoul, what mother board do you have?
[09:47] <darksoul> grace: i think i have said this, but let me look it up
[09:47] <grace> it may have included bios update over internet
[09:47] <Andypoo> darksoul: If it's a self-extracting RAR, you can download RAR for free from www.rarlab.com
[09:47] <Ep|phany> it says theres no directory
[09:47] <Ep|phany> but im in that directory right now
[09:48] <grace> Andypoo, he looking at other screen
[09:48] <Andypoo> darksoul: If it's a self-extracting ZIP, the infozip tools (unzip) should work and are obtainable on ubuntu already I believe.
[09:48] <darksoul> grace: http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=244
[09:48] <grace> right
[09:48] <ilba7r> hi i looked under proc/fan and the dir was empty
[09:48] <grace>   ^^^ for extractor
[09:48] <ilba7r> i noticed that the fan is never on while the pc is hot is there a file i can check if the fan controller is installed or not
[09:49] <intelikey> sorry brb.
[09:49] <Andypoo> darksoul: It's a rar.
[09:49] <grace> good choice board
[09:49] <Ep|phany> anyone know why my mount wont show up under Computer
[09:49] <darksoul> Andypoo: link please
[09:49] <intelikey> ok i'm back.
[09:49] <Andypoo> darksoul: www.rarlab.com
[09:49] <grace> hahaha
[09:50] <darksoul> Andypoo: oh nvm then
[09:50] <Andypoo> Unless you want me to extract the files and throw them on a server for you.
[09:50] <grace> Andypoo, is having dejavu
[09:50] <ilba7r> eplphany did you mount the media under /media
[09:50] <Ep|phany> no
[09:50] <Andypoo> grace: Hmm?
[09:50] <Ep|phany> i did it /,mt
[09:50] <ilba7r> thats why it does not show up
[09:50] <grace> that rar link you spit out a dozen times
[09:50] <intelikey> Ep|phany echo $PWD in that term and msg me the output
[09:50] <Andypoo> grace: Twice?
[09:50] <grace> more I saw it at least 3
[09:50] <Ep|phany> what do i do?
[09:51] <sethk> Andypoo, I don't think you need to dowload for a self extracter.  You download for an archive that is _not_ self-extracting
[09:51] <grace> ;^)
[09:51] <Andypoo> sethk: It's a Windows self-extractor..
[09:51] <intelikey> Ep|phany echo $PWD
[09:51] <sethk> Andypoo, that's the whole point of self-extracting.
[09:51] <grace> sethk, it self extracts to windowz not linux
[09:51] <ilba7r> to show up under computer i believe you have to mount it under /media
[09:51] <Andypoo> I'm confused.
[09:51] <Andypoo> You don't want RAR?  Or my link is not helpful?
[09:51] <grace> oddly enough im not
[09:51] <ilba7r> what are you mounting it should be mounted by gnome-volume-manager automatically
[09:51] <sethk> grace, if built for windows, sure.
[09:51] <intelikey> i didn't run off on you Ep|phany just killed my gui.
[09:51] <darksoul> sethk: my entire problem right now is, i dont know if it is a bios problem since i cant extract it
[09:52] <grace> sethk, it was built for windowz
[09:52] <darksoul> grace: yes..it was..and its pissin me off lol
[09:52] <darksoul> grace: well ubuntu64bit runs fine here so i dont really care
[09:52] <ilba7r> anyone know where the fan / thermal script is located?
[09:52] <sethk> darksoul, ok, I missed the "built for windows" part of the conversation, sorry
[09:52] <Ep|phany> k
[09:53] <Ep|phany> i msged that thing to you
[09:53] <grace> nvidia bios is a tad more sensitive than others
[09:53] <jmspeex> Anyone here can help me sort out a kernel issue?
[09:53] <darksoul> sethk: its fine
[09:53] <intelikey> me thinks not Ep|phany
[09:53] <darksoul> sethk: it seems like a bios problem..and i seriously hope its the problem.
[09:53] <Ep|phany> ill do it again
[09:53] <Andypoo> I am confused.
[09:53] <sethk> jmspeex, tell us what it is, and you'll find out.  :)
[09:53] <Seveas> ilba7r, /etc/acpi
[09:53] <Ep|phany> i pmed it to you again
[09:53] <sethk> Andypoo, I think I helped confuse you, so don't worry about it.
[09:53] <Andypoo> sethk :)
[09:53] <ilba7r> seveas there is no thermal control script there neither a fan one
[09:53] <Seveas> Ep|phany, on freenode you must be registered to send pms
[09:54] <Andypoo> I'm not confused by you :)
[09:54] <intelikey> Ep|phany if it opened a window when i said hey to you close that one and let me open you another one.
[09:54] <Ep|phany> k
[09:54] <intelikey> i'm in another client now.
[09:54] <jmspeex> sethk: Suspend to RAM is broken in 2.6.12 and 2.6.11 as shipped by Ubuntu 5.04. But it works with stock 2.6.11 and (stock and Ubuntu) 2.6.10
[09:54] <Ep|phany> k
[09:55] <grace> darksoul, check thi out
[09:55] <grace> Description:
[09:55] <grace>    1. Correct the core voltage reading of Sempron 2600+ and 2800+.
[09:55] <grace>    2. Add Sempron Rev.E6 CPU support.
[09:55] <grace>    3. BIOS compiled date: 06/14/2005
[09:55] <ilba7r> Seceas the pc get really hot i checked at /proc/acpi/thermal 79 and the fan file is empty and the fan did not come up. Does that mean that the fan control script is missing
[09:55] <grace> such a voltage issue could impact ram in a bad way
[09:55] <jmspeex> sethk: So it would seem that the faulty pactch is a 2.6.12 patch that Ubuntu also included in its own 2.6.11.
[09:55] <Ep|phany> i just registerd my nick
[09:55] <Corin_777> could anyone here please help me with eggdrop?
[09:56] <sethk> jmspeex, ok, seems like you have it all under control.
[09:56] <darksoul> grace: ill restart and check
[09:56] <grace> darksoul, any way that just means that weve come up with reasons to support genuine possibility that you bios update could fix your problem
[09:56] <jmspeex> sethk: no I don't. No idea where to go from there.
[09:56] <grace> but no guarantees
[09:56] <darksoul> grace: yea
[09:56] <grace> darksoul,
[09:56] <darksoul> grace: however, i have no freekin way to get a bios update atm lol
[09:57] <grace> write down the bios date and version when it boots
[09:57] <sethk> jmspeex, look at the source changes, see what they borked up.
[09:57] <grace> you may find out it already is at the most current
[09:57] <grace> or confirm it couldbe updated
[09:57] <Corin_777> anyone? small help needed with eggdrop...
[09:57] <grace> hm
[09:57] <darksoul> grace: k brb
[09:57] <grace> if you raw write a dos floppy
[09:57] <grace> then
[09:58] <grace> the self extractor should run off of that
[09:58] <grace> right
[09:58] <grace> ?
[09:58] <grace> any one
[09:58] <onkarshinde> are there any packages in breezy-backports yet?
[09:59] <jmspeex> sethk: Any place I can find a description of the patches that got included? (not just a diff)
[10:00] <sethk> jmspeex, best thing to do is email the author
[10:00] <Corin_777> someone: I have installed eggdrop, but when i run it it says config file not found...  what should i do?
[10:01] <sethk> Corin_777, give it its config file, of course
[10:01] <Corin_777> sethk, how?
[10:01] <Corin_777> i dont know where a config file is to give it...
[10:01] <darksoul> grace: didint say, so im going to go with update
[10:02] <sethk> Corin_777, look in the logs, see if it writes out the path to the file it is looking for.  If not, run it under strace and get the file name and path that way.
[10:02] <intelikey> i see it.
[10:02] <onkarshinde> Corin_777: Did you install eggdrop-data package?
[10:02] <Corin_777> what logs? under strace? i dont understand....
[10:02] <Corin_777> onkarshinde, yes, i did
[10:02] <darksoul> why is gnome-look.org down again
[10:02] <sethk> Corin_777, the main system log is /var/log/messages
[10:02] <Corin_777> ok
[10:03] <sethk> Corin_777, strace is a program that runs another program and tells you every kernel request that the program makes
[10:03] <Corin_777> ok
[10:03] <sethk> Corin_777, the program makes a kernel request to open a file
[10:03] <sethk> Corin_777, so you can see the file name that way.
[10:03] <onkarshinde> Does anyone know when OOo2 will be updated in breezy?
[10:03] <nnonix> darksoul: they're running windows update (jk)
[10:04] <darksoul> nnonix: ..
[10:04] <Corin_777> sethk, the system log doesnt show anything for today...
[10:04] <ptlo> Corin_777, for eggdrop you need to prepare a config file which holds info about its nickname, the channels, etc. then you should run: eggdrop <conffile> (or, even better, you can put #!/path/to/eggdrop as the first line of the fil, chmod +x conffile and running it)
[10:05] <Corin_777> ptlo, how do i know what the config file should look like? and where should i put it?
[10:05] <darksoul> grace: you here
[10:06] <Corin_777> ptlo?
[10:06] <ptlo> Corin_777, i believe you've got an example eggdrop.conf with the installation (you can type: dpkg -L <package_name> to see all the files which belong to the package)
[10:06] <Tonik> Has anyone succeeded in installing Internet Explorer on Breezy?
[10:06] <onkarshinde> I am trying to compile one program that includes iconv.h. But ld gives error that -liconv doesn't exist. Can someone help me?
[10:06] <ptlo> Corin_777, you can use that one as a template. copy it anywhere (the directory really doesn't matter, if you're the only user on your machine and you are planning on having only one eggdrop, you can use that one directly)
[10:07] <Corin_777> ok
[10:07] <grace> was off
[10:07] <grace> back now
[10:07] <darksoul> grace: ok
[10:08] <darksoul> grace: it didint show what i had, so im betting on the update, now, how do i get the update if its only availible on a .exe
[10:08] <grace> if you raw write a dos floppy
[10:08] <grace> the self extractor should run off of that
[10:08] <Corin_777> ptlo, cant find an example....
[10:08] <darksoul> grace: i dont have rar, and no floopy drive
[10:08] <derrickw> i am trying to find ways to optimize wine because it was running fallout 2 horribly. i lowered the colour to 16-bit and set applications to run in their own window (so it wouldn't try to run at full screen)
[10:08] <Corin_777> when i do dpkg -L eggdrop i get this: pastebin/view.php?id=38
[10:08] <derrickw> should this help at all?
[10:08] <grace> no floppy means no flash bios either
[10:08] <onkarshinde> I am trying to compile one program that includes iconv.h. But ld gives error that -liconv doesn't exist. Can someone help me?
[10:08] <Corin_777> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/pastebin/view.php?id=38
[10:08] <darksoul> grace: ...
[10:09] <darksoul> grace: fuck.....
[10:09] <ptlo> Corin_777,btw  http://www.egghelp.org/setup.htm
[10:09] <grace> the whole method of flash bios depends on boot off of floppy
[10:09] <darksoul> grace: what about cd
[10:09] <grace> technically you could create some bootable dos cd
[10:09] <darksoul> grace: thank you.
[10:09] <grace> you'd have to prepare it ahead
[10:09] <grace> make an iso
[10:10] <grace> make a bootable iso
[10:10] <grace> then burn it
[10:10] <sethk> Corin_777, ok, looks like you don't have a sample there, so use the web site that ptlo gave you
[10:10] <darksoul> grace: ..i hate you.. lol so would the update solve it
[10:10] <ptlo> Corin_777, did you install eggdrop-data package (as onkarshinde suggested)?
[10:10] <grace> reasonably good probability
[10:10] <Corin_777> ptlo, yes i did
[10:10] <darksoul> grace: just guess on the chances..so yes it sould
[10:10] <Madpilot> grace: with my Asus mobo, there's an onboard flash util; the only thing you put on the floppy is the actual bios
[10:10] <ptlo> Corin_777, could you post dpkg -L output for that, please?
[10:10] <grace> i dont guess
[10:10] <grace> I predict odds
[10:10] <Corin_777> ptlo, that website tells me the conf file (example) is where i extracted the package to, but i didnt, i used apt-get
[10:10] <darksoul> grace: right, ill just boot up my other computer with a floppy drive
[10:10] <sethk> Corin_777, then do the dpkg -L on the eggdrop-data package also
[10:11] <darksoul> grace: now what do i need to make it work right on a floppy
[10:11] <grace> uh would it have windows onit
[10:11] <derrickw> could someone tell me if music.whiskeydream.com is up and running? i'm not sure if my domain is working right now or not
[10:11] <darksoul> grace: no it wouldent
[10:11] <grace> well at least it has a floppy
[10:11] <darksoul> grace one sec
[10:11] <Corin_777> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/pastebin/view.php?id=39  for dpkg -L eggdrop-data, ptlo
[10:12] <FabMatt> Yesterday i tried to get connected to Ubuntu Severs but i got rejected with a ban message (You may be infected with a worm)
[10:12] <FabMatt> but now it's entered
[10:12] <FabMatt> why?
[10:12] <ptlo> Corin_777, there it is /usr/share/doc/eggdrop-data/examples/eggdrop.conf.gz
[10:12] <ptlo> Corin_777, you need to gunzip it and copy it somewhere, edit it and then run: eggdrop <conffile>
[10:13] <Corin_777> gunzip? how?
[10:13] <grace> darksoul, check out the motherboard and bios for an on board bios util. if it has one then you probably only need the one text file on the disk
[10:13] <grace> you may still need to put your floppy drive in it though
[10:13] <darksoul> grace: nope dont think so
[10:14] <ptlo> Corin_777, do something like this: mkdir ~/eggdrop; cd eggdrop; cp /usr/share/doc/eggdrop-data/examples/eggdrop.conf.gz .; gunzip eggdrop.conf.gz; gedit eggdrop.conf; eggdrop eggdrop.conf
[10:14] <Corin_777> where should i put eggdrop.conf?
[10:14] <intelikey> Corin_777 home
[10:14] <grace> darksoul, your life might be simpler to visit a windows box and prepare the floppy you need and then come back
[10:14] <Corin_777> and what is the command to move it to a different dir? ive forgotten :(
[10:15] <intelikey> mv
[10:15] <cyphase> what's the best way to set permissions on my home folder so other users can't access it?
[10:15] <grace> the put your drive in and there by - by pass your head ache
[10:15] <darksoul> grace: do you have windows
[10:15] <intelikey> cyphase chmod 700 $HOME
[10:15] <intelikey> join the 700 club  :)
[10:16] <derrickw> does anybody know why the cursor does not move smoothly at all when i emulate directx applications in wine? is there any way to improve this? i just want to play fallout and it's running very poorly
[10:16] <Ep|phany> i mounted over my desktop is there anyway to unmount?
[10:16] <cyphase> won't they be able to access files like..
[10:16] <cyphase> /home/cyphase/Deskop
[10:16] <cyphase> Desktop*
[10:16] <sethk> Ep|phany, umount
[10:16] <jmspeex> sethk: who's the author? (aren't there *lots* of authors)
[10:16] <Ep|phany> by going sudo unmount?
[10:16] <intelikey> nope they cant get into you home if it is 700
[10:16] <grace> darksoul, ?? where ya go
[10:17] <cyphase> so if i have a file in my home that's 777, they can't directly reference that file?
[10:17] <Ep|phany> sudo unmount doesnt work
[10:17] <cyphase> just making sure :)
[10:17] <ChunkAhoy> Hello to everyone, i would like someone to help me verify if my new computer hardware is suported by Ubuntu
[10:17] <topyli> Ep|phany: what/who exactly did you mount? and do you mean your mount point is your desktop?
[10:18] <Corin_777> ok, so i now have a .conf file in /home/admin ....
[10:18] <intelikey> topyli he mounted an iso on $HOME
[10:18] <Corin_777> what now?
[10:18] <ptlo> Corin_777, edit it. there are a lot of comments in it, and use the egghelp.org link i gave you also for info ...
[10:19] <Madpilot> ChunkAhoy: list the hardware - in a pastebin, if it's a long list - and people can have a look at it - ask Google too
[10:19] <ChunkAhoy> i have this: 64bit venice 3500+, BFG 7800GT, DFI Lanparty NF4, 2x wd1600js hdd in raid, Creative Audigy 2 zs,
[10:19] <topyli> Ep|phany: give the mount point as an argument to umount: sudo umount /home/xxxx (or, as it sounds, /home/xxxx/Desktop
[10:19] <intelikey> and of course everything gui craped out when that happened...
[10:19] <ptlo> Corin_777, do read *all* of it. there's a line in the config file that will deliberately kill the bot if you don't locate and remove it :)
[10:19] <pc22> enyc, hello
[10:19] <ChunkAhoy> What i want to know mostly is the compatibility with NF4 chipset and NVRaid
[10:19] <intelikey> topyli it's home not desktop
[10:20] <Corin_777> ptlo, which one?
[10:20] <Corin_777> :o
[10:20] <Madpilot> ChunkAhoy: is that SATA "fakeRAID"?
[10:20] <ChunkAhoy> yes,  it is Sata
[10:20] <ptlo> Corin_777, no cheating :)
[10:20] <topyli> intelikey: oh, ok. (he said 'over my desktop', which confused me)
[10:20] <Corin_777> :'(
[10:20] <topyli> it's tricky then
[10:20] <Corin_777> will i know which one?
[10:21] <intelikey> yeah it took me a few to figure him out too topyli
[10:22] <ChunkAhoy> i can't find on google if its fakeraid or not
[10:22] <ptlo> Corin_777, yes, it's like: die "you forgot to edit me"' ;
[10:22] <topyli> intelikey: can't umount $HOME easily while logged in. can you give device names as arguments to umount?
[10:22] <ptlo> Corin_777, don't worry, just take your time and fammiliarize yourself with it
[10:22] <Madpilot> ChunkAhoy: you might have trouble with the SATA fakeRAID, from what I've read (haven't used it myself)
[10:22] <intelikey> yeap it may require reboot....  in his case....         he was in /mnt/war   and i told him how to mount blah .   so he closed the term and reopened it then ran the command.... now he mad at me.....
[10:22] <Corin_777> ptlo, how do i know where dynamic channel settings are stored?
[10:23] <sethk> topyli, he means ~/Desktop
[10:23] <ptlo> Corin_777, uhh...errr...ummm....geee...i guess there's a setting for that somewhere in the config file...
[10:23] <ispiked> if a module is listed in lsmod will adding it to /etc/modules to get it to load at boot time do anything?
[10:24] <ptlo> ispiked, it should
[10:24] <Corin_777> ptlo, there is, it wants to know where the .chan file is stored...
[10:24] <ChunkAhoy> ok, well, i am willing to sacrifice the Raid in order to install Ubuntu
[10:24] <ispiked> ptlo: so loading the sata modules might make resuming from suspend work?
[10:24] <topyli> Ep|phany: ok. man umount says "umount [options]  dir | device", so you could probably use the device name as the argument
[10:24] <ChunkAhoy> Have you heard about problems with NF4 ?
[10:24] <ptlo> Corin_777, choose some location, the bot will generate these
[10:24] <Madpilot> ChunkAhoy: for testing just the NF4 stuff, you could try the LiveCD
[10:24] <Ep|phany> i got it unmounted
[10:24] <ptlo> Corin_777, i'm sorry i don't know exactly how it works anymore, it's been a while :)
[10:25] <Corin_777> ptlo, can you come to #flood?
[10:25] <ptlo> ispiked, i don't know about that :) if you load the disk support prior to accessing the disk, i guess that should work, but i've never played with suspend/resume
[10:25] <ChunkAhoy> oh yeah, i'll try that,  Thank you verry much Madpilot. Its verry nice to have a place where pple help like this.
[10:25] <ptlo> Corin_777, i'm there
[10:25] <Cryptid> How do i get Beep Media player to use Winamp Skins???
[10:26] <Madpilot> ChunkAhoy: np - have fun ;)
[10:26] <ispiked> ptlo: well, it's worth a try. I'm just trying to figure out the differnce between it loading from /etc/modules and dynamically loading modules when it recognizes the hardware.
[10:26] <ZzeCoOl> Can sowmone tell me tha site  where ia can upload my coped console line ?
[10:26] <Corin_777> ptlo, any ideas about that bit?
[10:26] <topyli> Ep|phany: and told no-one, but left me reading man pages here?
[10:26] <ZzeCoOl> lines*
[10:26] <ptlo> Corin_777, that's how you configure the channels your bot will sit on
[10:27] <Corin_777> so i remove the '#'s?
[10:27] <ptlo> remove the #'s, and don't forget to change the channel name from #lamest :)
[10:28] <ZzeCoOl> ok found it (pastebin.com)
[10:30] <Venson> Hey all, is there an official (or not) ubuntu live-cd guide for just-born, drooling n00bs available online?
[10:31] <ispiked> Venson: guide for what?
[10:31] <Venson> ispiked: running the ubuntu live cd
[10:31] <ZzeCoOl> I have set my fstab to auto mount read-write  my windows partitons  but when im trying to access my vfat partition i still done have write privs :/
[10:31] <Corin_777> ptlo, for stuff like '# flood-kick 3:10'  can i just leave like that if i dont want it, or do i HAVE to edit to '# flood-kick 0:0' ?
[10:31] <ZzeCoOl> http://pastebin.com/434112
[10:31] <ispiked> Venson: my mom could do it...
[10:31] <ZzeCoOl> plz take a look
[10:31] <ispiked> Venson: insert, use.
[10:31] <ptlo> Corin_777, you can leave it with #
[10:31] <Venson> ispiked: congratulate your mom for me...
[10:31] <Venson> =)
[10:31] <samscol> i'm trying out breezy on a laptop. when i try to boot the installer, i see the message "GRUB _" where _ is the cursor. Then it hangs. Does anyone know where GRUB's error messages are shown?
[10:31] <Venson> *from
[10:31] <ispiked> Venson: I mean, I'm not trying to offent, I just don't understand what you're asking about.
[10:32] <Venson> ispiked: like i mentioned, this is to be given to utter n00bs
[10:32] <ispiked> Venson: ah.
[10:32] <axel> hello
[10:32] <Venson> ispiked: this is for people who think "Hmm...the cd isn't working...maybe i should throw it away"....at which point, they should really be fixing their BIOS or something
[10:32] <axel> is skype downloadable on the universe or multiverse ?
[10:33] <ZzeCoOl> Venson: its just that linux - Ubuntu isnt MAME32
[10:33] <ZzeCoOl> ..
[10:33] <Venson> ZzeCoOl: hmm?
[10:33] <ZzeCoOl> O.o
[10:33] <hyphenated> axel: it's downloadable from skype.com
[10:33] <ZzeCoOl> >.<
[10:33] <ZzeCoOl> I have set my fstab to auto mount read-write  my windows partitons  but when im trying to access my vfat partition i still done have write privs :/   http://pastebin.com/434112
[10:34] <samscol> anyone?
[10:34] <samscol> i'm trying out breezy on a laptop. when i try to boot the installer, i see the message "GRUB _" where _ is the cursor. Then it hangs. Does anyone know where GRUB's error messages are shown?
[10:34] <bimberi> axel: a breezy deb for skype is available via http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:34] <ispiked> ZzeCoOl: why not just do rw,users for the options?
[10:35] <siimo> anyone here use ps2pdf to make pdf files? i use -dEmbedAllFonts=true but it still wont embed the fonts anyone know why?
[10:35] <intelikey> ZzeCoOl add umask=o in fstab.
[10:35] <ZzeCoOl> aha
[10:35] <ZzeCoOl> :OO intelikey
[10:35] <ZzeCoOl> script is rdy man :)
[10:35] <axel> bimberi, thx
[10:35] <bimberi> axel: np :)
[10:35] <intelikey> like /dev/hdc1 /disks/disk vfat defaults,noauto,users,umask=0 0 0
[10:35] <intelikey> ZzeCoOl ^
[10:36] <ZzeCoOl> let me finish my fstab and u will get it :))
[10:36] <intelikey> example but you probably want user in place of users and auto in place of noauto.
[10:37] <soundray> Can anyone recommend a Socket 939 board that works well with Ubuntu?
[10:37] <topyli> samscol: probably nowhere, since grub doesn't yet have a filesystem to write to, and there's no operating system booted
[10:37] <samscol> topyli: do you know where grub's error messages are documented? as in some web page where the grub bootup sequence is explained?
[10:38] <axel> bimberi, is it a repo or website because i get a conexion refud
[10:38] <axel> bimberi, is it a repo or website because i get a conexion refused
[10:38] <samscol> i googled, but only found a page with late stage error messages
[10:38] <topyli> samscol: dunno, i bet grub's home page has documentation though
[10:38] <samscol> the kind that are shown after bootup
[10:39] <bimberi> axel: website, i get connection refused too, must be unavailable atm :/
[10:40] <axel> bimberi, oki i'll go on skype.com thx anyway
[10:40] <bimberi> axel: k
[10:44] <Corin_777> ptlo, its not working....  it says "you didnt edit the config file completely like you were told, did you?"
[10:45] <Corin_777> and ive edited everything i can think of
[10:45] <henrik_> Hi! I have a strange problem. Suddenly, after trying to restore my Win XP MBR, I'm unable to mount my Windows partitions in Ubuntu: It says, translated to english; "the [special]  partition /dev/hda1 does not exist", but it worked before I did the "fixboot" command!
[10:45] <ptlo> Corin_777, search for that line in the config file
[10:45] <Corin_777> what line?
[10:45] <sethk> henrik_, you clobbered your partition table, most likely
[10:46] <ptlo> Corin_777, invoke search in your editor, and type 'you didn't edit the config file completely' and see where it finds it
[10:46] <Corin_777> oh lol
[10:46] <Corin_777> i thought i had alread got that, maybe there were two
[10:46] <henrik_> sethk: Okay. I tried to avoid messing with my partiontable. Is there anyway to get the old settings back without loosing any data?
[10:46] <Corin_777> ptlo, http://pastebin.com/434122
[10:47] <Corin_777> ??
[10:48] <vbgunz> Firefox 1.5 is officially released... how long till Ubuntu sees it coming down the pipe?
[10:48] <vbgunz> Am I the first to ask or the 1,345,212? give or take a few...
[10:48] <Corin_777> ptlo?
[10:49] <ptlo> Corin_777, don't use ./eggdrop -m .... , use: eggdrop -m ... (don't put './' in front)
[10:49] <sethk> henrik_, you can reset the partition table with fdisk, _if_ you know what the settings should be.
[10:49] <sethk> henrik_, no data has been lost
[10:49] <sethk> henrik_, if you don't know the numbers, though, it can take some time to figure out.
[10:50] <sethk> yh
[10:50] <Corin_777> ptlo, http://pastebin.com/434124
[10:50] <sethk> henrik_, overwriting the partition table change only the partition table, which is why I said no data is lost.
[10:51] <Corin_777> but ptlo, when i do /msg projecthack hellp, it says there is no user with that nick...
[10:52] <ptlo> Corin_777, maybe you put it on another irc server or something :)
[10:52] <henrik_> sethk: Ok. Good. I just have one partition on my first windows hd, and one on my second. Should I use fdisk?
[10:53] <intelikey> cfdisk is easier
[10:53] <Corin_777> ptlo, pm
[10:54] <sethk> henrik_, I use fdisk.  some people think cfdisk is easier.  I'm used to fdisk.  either should work for you
[10:54] <sethk> henrik_, you need to know the starting sector for the second partition
[10:54] <sethk> BRB
[10:55] <henrik_> sethk: But I only have one partition on the hd in question!
[10:55] <intelikey> henrik_ what are you wanting to achieve ?
[10:55] <sethk> henrik_, that makes it easy.  :0
[10:55] <intelikey> what is the goal ?
[10:55] <animal_> i have problems installing binutils it tells me to put an enviernment to the compiler or something  anyone know what to do?
[10:56] <sethk> henrik_, possiblyl the type is the onlly problem.
[10:56] <henrik_> intelikley: I would like to mount my Win XP partition in Ubuntu, cause I've messed up Windows MBR.
[10:57] <sethk> intelikey, he rewrote his MBR, and lost the ability to mount that partition
[10:57] <intelikey> animal_ sudo apt-get install binutils  ?
[10:57] <henrik_> sethk: Ok. According to my partition table, /dev/hda1 starts at sector 0.
[10:57] <boris`````> i have a question regarding ubuntu
[10:57] <boris`````> it doesn't smarty
[10:58] <boris`````> where do you think your partition table lies?
[10:58] <intelikey> boris````` name calling ?
[10:58] <henrik_> boris: Ok. You win. Be proud.
[10:58] <intelikey> be nice.
[10:58] <boris`````> just letting you know
[10:58] <boris`````> hey, i even called you smart
[10:59] <intelikey> yes smarty you did.
[10:59] <boris`````> so about my question
[10:59] <henrik_> boris: Thanks. And I called you a winner :-)
[10:59] <boris`````> i have a question regarding ubuntu
[10:59] <boris`````> was it written by africans?
[10:59] <Venson> heh
[11:00] <intelikey> it is intercontanental    or world wide.
[11:00] <henrik_> sethk: Ok. Sorry for that. Why would the type be an issue?
[11:00] <boris`````> so it was just named by africans?
[11:01] <Corin_777> ptlo, how can i "telnet to the bot"?
[11:01] <intelikey> probably by americans you know how they are.
[11:01] <Venson> boris`````: it has an ancient african word for its name....is that a problem?
[11:01] <Venson> boris`````: you should read the website...it has a lot of information on there
[11:01] <ptlo> Corin_777, telnet address_of_the_bot port_of_the bot (address is the hostname where you have it running, port is a port you specified
[11:02] <Corin_777> so telnet MY_IP port ?
[11:02] <AMDXP> brb
[11:02] <Corin_777> and how do i know the port?
[11:02] <boris`````> i don't like africans
[11:03] <panico> ciao a tutti
[11:03] <Venson> boris`````: why not?
[11:03] <intelikey> i'd say that was more of a problem to you boris````` than to them.
[11:03] <boris`````> Venson: they steal stuff
[11:03] <Venson> boris`````: you obviously haven't read your history right. We're all from Africa.  So behave.
[11:05] <Corin_777> but ptlo can you see any where in the config thats wrong which makes it not connect to server?
[11:05] <boris`````> okay, okay
[11:05] <Venson> boris`````: stereotyping a whole continent of people because of the actions of one is _stupid_
[11:05] <ptlo> Corin_777, no, seems ok
[11:05] <intelikey> easy! topyli those were euros me thinks.
[11:05] <boris`````> tell me, what does ubuntu mean in english?
[11:06] <Venson> i hope you do realize Africa is a continent ;)
[11:06] <Madpilot> boris`````: please go read this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[11:06] <boris`````> nah
[11:06] <viviersf> ok
[11:06] <viviersf> how can i clear my mbr
[11:07] <intelikey> shall we all gang up on the troll and slap him around a bit ?
[11:07] <boris`````> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[11:07] <Corin_777> ptlo, fixed it
[11:07] <Corin_777> :D
[11:07] <Corin_777> thanks for all you help ptlo
[11:07] <ptlo> Corin_777, cool, np
[11:07] <boris`````> tell me, what does ubuntu mean in english?
[11:07] <Corin_777> ptlo, do you use affero?
[11:07] <Corin_777> or whatever it is
[11:08] <Corin_777> 'ubuntu' is an ancient african word meaning 'cannot install gentoo'
[11:08] <Madpilot> boris`````: the URL I gave you explains that, and why we're not impressed by your trolling...
[11:08] <ptlo> Corin_777, err never heard of it
[11:08] <Venson> boris`````: i've told you once before to read the website. You have been warned.
[11:08] <skypa> greetings, I was wondering if usplash needed some kernel parameters to work
[11:08] <skypa> since I installed ubuntu from debootstrap, usplash ain't really working :)
[11:08] <boris`````> Madpilot: it's not meant to impress you, dolt
[11:09] <boris`````> it's meant to entertain me
[11:09] <ptlo> btw, 'ubuntu' loosely  means 'everything in one package'' in croatian :)
[11:09] <grace> m
[11:09] <Corin_777> ptlo, its something some people (like nalioth) use
[11:09] <Corin_777> and people can rate them on how helpful they are
[11:09] <viviersf> thx boris````` ill try that quick
[11:09] <Corin_777> in irc, what is +n?
[11:09] <boris`````> viviersf: why?
[11:10] <boris`````> Corin_777: no dumb questions mode
[11:10] <Corin_777> boris`````, wtf
[11:10] <viviersf> boris`````, when i install grub sometimes it doesnt install properly and then it doesnt load at start
[11:10] <Madpilot> Corin_777: in whois, it means you're identified to the server, AFAIK
[11:10] <Corin_777> ok
[11:11] <boris`````> viviersf: and that explains why you want to obliterate your partition table?
[11:12] <boris`````> so uh
[11:12] <boris`````> what does ubuntu mean?
[11:12] <TreeStump> hi
[11:12] <boris`````> HIA@
[11:13] <TreeStump> sup?
[11:13] <TreeStump> do ppl here know heaps about Ubuntu?
[11:13] <intelikey> loads
[11:13] <boris`````> they know more about it in #debian
[11:14] <TreeStump> ok i was just wondering if i can set up a router/NAT server with ubuntu
[11:14] <intelikey> yep
[11:14] <topyli> TreeStump: sure
[11:14] <boris`````> indubitably
[11:15] <boris`````> hmm
[11:15] <TreeStump> its just i am running Win Server 03 at the moment but i keep getting Blue screen of death...
[11:15] <boris`````> actually, i have a question
[11:15] <boris`````> TreeStump: that's probably your fault
[11:15] <boris`````> windows is quite stable
[11:15] <TreeStump> no it isnt
[11:15] <TreeStump> it works fine with any other OS
[11:15] <topyli> TreeStump: my desktop here is a router if you ask my windows client
[11:16] <Corin_777> ptlo, do you remember how to use eggdrop?
[11:16] <TreeStump> what i want to do is have my Ubuntu box connect to the net and then my computer connect to that for a connection
[11:16] <boris`````> duh
[11:16] <Corin_777> ptlo, no commands seem to be working....
[11:16] <boris`````> that's what a router is
[11:16] <topyli> TreeStump: yep, works perfectly
[11:16] <TreeStump> ok so if i just install normal old Ubuntu ill b able to do this?
[11:17] <boris`````> a b c d e f g
[11:17] <topyli> yes
[11:17] <TreeStump> ok, lol
[11:17] <rob_p> TreeStump:  NAT how-to and Internet Connection Sharing script for ubuntu --> http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/12/27/
[11:17] <topyli> gotta go to work, as batman used to say
[11:17] <ptlo> Corin_777, /dcc chat bot ... then when it asks for password, enter it.
[11:17] <boris`````> of course you will
[11:17] <eedge> used to say? does that mean batmans dead...
[11:17] <Corin_777> ptlo, doesnt work....
[11:17] <ptlo> Corin_777, gotta go, good luck with the bot. google for eggdrop help, there are loads of available information
[11:19] <boris`````> just enable ip forwarding, add a masquerade rule to your nat table, postrouting chain, manually configure the inner interface and run a dhcp server, and obtain the outer interface's info using a dhcp client
[11:20] <boris`````> elementary, my dear watson
[11:20] <boris`````> so anyway
[11:21] <boris`````> can i use ubuntu to download pornography?
[11:21] <boris`````> or is that against some african principle?
[11:23] <Seveas> boris`````, of course you can. You might need some additional codecs to watch your downloads
[11:23] <Corin_777> Seveas, are you any good with eggdrop?
[11:23] <Seveas> Corin_777, eggdrop is bad, tcl sucks
[11:23] <Seveas> (so: no)
[11:23] <Corin_777> ok
[11:23] <Seveas> I'd advice supybot instead
[11:24] <StevenK> It still disturbs me that I was in here a few days ago answering questions.
[11:24] <Seveas> why does that disturb you?
[11:24] <StevenK> Given that I've now installed Breezy and have problems myself. :-P
[11:24] <Seveas> hehe :)
[11:29] <skypa> greetings again, anyone here with usplash up and running?
[11:32] <LoRe> !find win32codecs
[11:32] <LoRe> !tell LoRe about win32codecs
[11:32] <aftertaf> LordMokus:   you can /msg ubotu keyword too
[11:33] <LoRe> ah, thanks :)
[11:33] <aftertaf> lol.. :)
[11:33] <aftertaf> sorry LordMokus  :)
[11:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'win32codecs' returned no results.
[11:33] <StevenK> w32codecs, and it isn't in the archive.
[11:34] <StevenK> LoRe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:34] <Seveas> skypa, a lot of people :)
[11:35] <aftertaf> ""
[11:35] <aftertaf> oops
[11:35] <Seveas> aftertaf, ''
[11:35] <FJ_Sanchez> Hi
[11:35] <aftertaf> lol
[11:35] <Seveas> hi FJ_Sanchez
[11:35] <aftertaf> howdy Seveas :)
[11:36] <Seveas> Welcome to #ubuntu, how may we help?
[11:36] <skypa> Seveas, would you mind having a look into your /boot/grub/menu.lst or /etc/lilo.conf and telling me what parameter is passed on to your kernel?
[11:36] <skypa> I'm trying to figure out why usplash won't load at boottime :>
[11:36] <intelikey> i guess you always wanted to do that   lol
[11:36] <Seveas> skypa, 'splash' is needed
[11:36] <FJ_Sanchez> I cannot use traceroute... always says unknown host
[11:36] <Seveas> and probably a sudo dpkg-reconfigure linus-image-$(uname -r)
[11:36] <LoRe> is there an alphabetically ordered list of my windows somewhere in gnome?
[11:37] <Seveas> to rebuild the initrd
[11:37] <skypa> with 'splash' beeing...?
[11:37] <skypa> ic
[11:37] <aftertaf> skypa:  mine doesnt always work either... i think it tried sth with a module, and fails, have you checked your kernel logs?
[11:37] <Seveas> skypa, the kernel parameter ;)
[11:37] <FJ_Sanchez> It's traceroute6, can anyone help me?
[11:37] <FJ_Sanchez> traceroute6 utility, iputils-ss020927
[11:37] <Seveas> skypa, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4694
[11:37] <FJ_Sanchez> Is it only for IPv6?
[11:38] <Seveas> FJ_Sanchez, yes
[11:38] <Seveas> for ipv4, use tracepath or mtr
[11:38] <FJ_Sanchez> Ok thanks
[11:38] <Seveas> mtr is really cool
[11:38] <skypa> that's the one.. tywm Seveas :)
[11:38] <FJ_Sanchez> Mmm, it's nice
[11:38] <FJ_Sanchez> Thank you
[11:39] <skypa> hum.. the stock ubuntu kernel is bootsplash patched?
[11:39] <intelikey> hehhe -bash: mtr: command not found
[11:39] <skypa> that's a shame.. I though usplash was a _real_ usermode bootsplash :/
[11:39] <skypa> *thought
[11:39] <Seveas> skypa, it's not a kernel patch
[11:39] <Seveas> it's real usermode
[11:40] <Seveas> but the things need to be in the initrd to work
[11:40] <Seveas> (that's what the dpkg-reconfigure does)
[11:41] <Seveas> intelikey, apt-get to the rescue :)
[11:41] <skypa> alright then..I think .. let's see if I can teach my ol' bloated debian to usplash :>
[11:41] <Seveas> skypa, good luck with that :)
[11:41] <intelikey> question why does ub require initrd ?   is the kernel too big without it ?
[11:41] <jedi> hey guys, quick question... what's the package name of the flash player browser plugin?
[11:41] <jedi> i always keep forgetting it
[11:41] <StevenK> intelikey: No, it allows you to have everything as modules.
[11:41] <intelikey> Seveas ah that would be urpmi for me thanks.  :)
[11:41] <Seveas> intelikey, monolithic kernels are an obsolete concept, only popular among people who still live in the 90s and/or are gentoo ricers
[11:42] <skypa> Seveas, that's kinda blasphemic ;)
[11:42] <axel> which client can I use to videoconference on aim ??
[11:42] <Seveas> axel, gaim-vv
[11:42] <skypa> high security systems often use hardened monolithic kernels
[11:42] <Seveas> or gaim-2 when it's released
[11:42] <Chousuke> modules are good for you
[11:43] <Seveas> mguh biggetje
[11:43] <intelikey> it just looks like they could have put ext2fs support in the kernel.....
[11:43] <intelikey> or 3
[11:43] <Seveas> intelikey, no
[11:43] <Seveas> not everyone uses it
[11:43] <Seveas> so why put it in the kernel..
[11:44] <Chousuke> initrd works
[11:44] <Seveas> putting it in a module is 0% slower
[11:44] <axel> Seveas: is gaim-vv on the repos ?
[11:44] <Seveas> axel, nop
[11:44] <axel> oki i google
[11:44] <krak`nix> how do i fix "profile in use" firefox error
[11:44] <corona> hi can someone help me with customizing bash colours?
[11:44] <Seveas> krak`nix, killall firefox-bin
[11:45] <skypa> its bootsplash time.. brb
[11:45] <krak`nix> :~$ killall firefox-bin
[11:45] <krak`nix> firefox-bin: no process killed
[11:45] <intelikey> ah, so it could boot (by default) without an initrd,     as ub is so (it's all supposed to be default) anyway....
[11:45] <intelikey> but i was just asking.....
[11:45] <krak`nix> computer froze, had to reset, now firefox wont launch :(
[11:46] <Seveas> krak`nix, find ~/.mozilla/firefox -name lock -exec rm '{}' ';'
[11:46] <sethk> krak`nix, didn't clean up a lock file, look in /tmp
[11:46] <Seveas> sethk, firefox locks are in ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[11:47] <sethk> Seveas, k
[11:47] <intelikey> Chousuke initrd works ?   yeah if you don't want to make a boot disk....   but it won't fit on a floppy.   he you remember those ?
[11:47] <sethk> Seveas, there is also (at least sometimes) a named pipe in /tmp
[11:47] <krak`nix> Seveas: ty that worked :)
[11:48] <davix> anyone knows of a good alternative to Microsoft's OneNote?
[11:48] <Seveas> sethk, I've never seen that :)
[11:48] <Chousuke> intelikey: huh?
[11:48] <Chousuke> intelikey: boot floppies are a completely different matter.
[11:48] <Seveas> why would kernel and/or initrd be on a boot floppy?
[11:48] <Jerub> what's the best software to use with a palm pilot?
[11:48] <Seveas> only grub needs to be there
[11:48] <Jerub> I got a freebie palmIII, but have no idea what linux software to use with it
[11:49] <sethk> Seveas, happens when an app invokes firefox on a url
[11:49] <Seveas> Jerub, evolution is popular
[11:49] <intelikey> grub.... yuch
[11:49] <Seveas> sethk, a thanks
[11:49] <Seveas> intelikey, lilo is worse
[11:49] <sethk> Seveas, kernel may be there on a rescue floppy
[11:49] <sarek> hi
[11:49] <intelikey> lilo on  a floppy .......   *shivers*
[11:49] <Seveas> sethk, there are live cd's for that purpose :)
[11:50] <Seveas> (no I don't use machines without cd anymore, in fact: most of my machines don't have a floppy drive)
[11:50] <krak`nix> anyone know of a way to setup (or maybe an extension) a filter for downloads in firefox
[11:50] <krak`nix> so certain file types go to a different folder than the default dl folder
[11:51] <intelikey> ok you said it right there.    that is the attatude i expected.      the "if your hardware is not up to date screw you" attatude......   yep.
[11:51] <Seveas> intelikey, ;)
[11:51] <Chousuke> attitude.
[11:51] <Chousuke> :P
[11:51] <Chousuke> intelikey: anyway, he's got a point.
[11:51] <Seveas> not having a cd drive is not just 'not up to date', it's completely obsolete :)
[11:51] <krak`nix> i'd hate to see a machine that doesn't have a cdrom drive :o
[11:51] <Seveas> (except for pxe machines)
[11:51] <Chousuke> indeed.
[11:52] <sarek> can I somehow get firefox and thunderbird to display an english gui, although German is the default language in my gnome-environment and mozilla-thunderbird-locale-de is installed?
[11:52] <Seveas> but with pxe, you don't need no stinking floppies either :)
[11:52] <krak`nix> if anything it is floppy that has disappeared
[11:52] <krak`nix> ive stopped putting them in my machines
[11:52] <Seveas> sarek, 'LC_ALL=en_US firefox'
[11:52] <odyssey> krak`nix, thin clients dont have cd drives
[11:52] <Chousuke> floppies are slow, low-capacity and fragile.
[11:52] <Seveas> odyssey, thin clients are pxe
[11:52] <Chousuke> I know someone who runs Woody on a 486 and does netboot :)
[11:52] <Seveas> dude..
[11:52] <Seveas> evil :)
[11:53] <krak`nix> lol..
[11:53] <Chousuke> he runs irssi on it and uses ssh and does development on it
[11:53] <Seveas> lol
[11:53] <odyssey> Chousuke, even dvds are low-capacity now
[11:53] <Chousuke> his swap is also on a network drive :P
[11:53] <Seveas> I hope he uses distcc with access to a nice fast machine ;)
[11:53] <intelikey> yes i know the point.   and it is prevalent in the hightech world.    i know that.   but i never figured out why it something was the greatest thing that ever was, you've got to get one,  then the next year the same folks are telling you oh throw that junk away......    makes no sense to me....
[11:53] <Chousuke> Seveas: of course.
[11:53] <Chousuke> But hey, that machine works :)
[11:54] <krak`nix> intelikey: if you take care of your machines you can always use them for something
[11:54] <sarek> Seveas: no, that does not work ... Firefox still is in German (the menues etc.)
[11:54] <Chousuke> intelikey: what?
[11:54] <Chousuke> that isn't what we're telling you
[11:54] <Seveas> intelikey, I'm not a hype-person (except that I jumped on the ubuntu bandwagon very early), but floppys imho are completely obsolete and superseded by usb disks and cd-rw
[11:54] <Chousuke> just floppies were olde five years ago
[11:54] <Chousuke> I just recently bought a PS2 ;P
[11:54] <intelikey> krak`nix yessir.  an 80286 will do more today than it would brand new.
[11:55] <Chousuke> because it was cheap and all the games for it are cheap.
[11:55] <Seveas> intelikey, more of nothing is still nothing ;)
[11:55] <Chousuke> and it has damn good games too :)
[11:55] <odyssey> Chousuke, couldnt wait for the ps3 to come out?
[11:55] <Chousuke> that would've been stupid
[11:55] <Seveas> odyssey, and pay 6 times as much per game?
[11:55] <Chousuke> because PS3 is expensive.
[11:55] <Chousuke> and the games are expensive
[11:56] <Chousuke> and I would've only bought PS2 games.
[11:56] <Seveas> btw: we're going horribly off-topic here
[11:56] <StevenK> So are new PS2 games.
[11:56] <zeroshot> on a g5 running 5.10 anyone know how active the context menu's ?
[11:56] <Chousuke> But hmm.
[11:56] <Seveas> zeroshot, 'context menus'?
[11:56] <Chousuke> right-click? ;P
[11:56] <zeroshot> right click
[11:56] <Seveas> yeah, right click for the menu...
[11:56] <Chousuke> intelikey: a 286 would be useless
[11:56] <hyphenated> sarek: you probably wanted to set LANG, not LC_ALL (or both)
[11:56] <StevenK> Does anyone know why XEmacs on Breezy only shows 2 fonts, Clean and Fixed?
[11:56] <intelikey> i'm glad all my rant wasn't for naught, at least Chousuke has a clue.....  :)
[11:57] <intelikey> scratch that.
[11:57] <Seveas> hahahaha
[11:57] <Chousuke> intelikey: it can't run linux :/
[11:57] <odyssey> Seveas, how much are games where you come from?
[11:57] <Seveas> odyssey, no idea, my favourite game is gcc :)
[11:57] <intelikey> or you may have something there.  well a 386 then.
[11:57] <Chousuke> intelikey: and besides, the value to size ratio of a 286 is too low :P
[11:57] <intelikey> :)
[11:57] <hyphenated> Seveas: have you won it yet? ;-)
[11:58] <skypa> well.. that didn't quite splash :p
[11:58] <odyssey> Seveas, sounds like you would like gentoo
[11:58] <Seveas> hyphenated, sometimes it gives me an ICE, I hope it means ice cream :p
[11:58] <Seveas> odyssey, eww no
[11:58] <Chousuke> 386 might be passable, but I think the least powerful junk I could put to use would be 486
[11:58] <hyphenated> Seveas: hah
[11:59] <intelikey> hmmm i have a 486 lappy here some place with mdk9 on it....
[11:59] <joda> quick question: how do I check if a certain option is compiled into the current kernel?
[11:59] <Chousuke> intelikey: mdk9. :D
[11:59] <Chousuke> isn't that a bit heavy?
[11:59] <odyssey> whats the best way to upgrade breezy to badger? Use apt or download the iso? Does ubuntu support upgrading from booting the new install iso?
[11:59] <Seveas> joda, inspect /boot/grub/*config*
[11:59] <intelikey> console only....
[11:59] <Seveas> odyssey, apt is better
[11:59] <Chousuke> or well, of course you can strip it down
[11:59] <intelikey> the hd is only 200m
[11:59] <Seveas> and Ubuntu supports upgrading by inserting an install cd (or mounting the iso)
[11:59] <Seveas> not by booting from it
[12:00] <Chousuke> I wish I could get myself some decently powerful and cheap x86 hardware
[12:00] <joda> Seveas, there's no file or dir called *config* in that folder :/
[12:00] <messju> where can i find apache's fop for breezy?
[12:00] <Seveas> odyssey, btw: 'breezy' and 'badger' are the same: it's "Breezy Badger"
[12:00] <Chousuke> something like 1.6GHz and 512MB of RAM. :)
[12:00] <Seveas> joda, /boot/*config* i mean
[12:01] <Seveas> on breezy: /boot/config-2.6.12-9-686
[12:01] <skypa> Seveas, do you know what piece of software produces those neat "Starting xx [ok] " messages in the boot process?
[12:01] <skypa> since standard debian does not do that
[12:01] <odyssey> Seveas, arr i meant hoary to badger, thats probably the main reason i dont use ubuntu is because i dislike there release names so much
[12:01] <joda> Seveas, got it, thanks a bunch :)
[12:01] <Seveas> skypa, init :)
[12:01] <Chousuke> Freaky Ferret!
[12:01] <Chousuke> I saw that in the wiki
[12:01] <Seveas> skypa, you need an updated lsb init functions file
[12:01] <Chousuke> I definitely want a Ferret.
[12:01] <intelikey> i still like the <= 1ghz stuff myself, the price is better on it, and i don't game anyway.
[12:01] <Chousuke> not freaky, maybe.
[12:01] <Madpilot> Chousuke: Inebriated Iguana ;)
[12:02] <StevenK> Funny Ferret
[12:02] <Seveas> Funky Ferret
[12:02] <StevenK> Fuzzy Ferret
[12:02] <odyssey> Gonadal goat?
[12:02] <Chousuke> fantabulous ferret
[12:02] <Seveas> Freaking Ferret
[12:02] <Chousuke> ;P
[12:02] <Madpilot> Flattened Ferret - the roadkill distro ;)
[12:02] <Seveas> rofl
[12:02] <intelikey> robust rooster   :)
[12:02] <StevenK> Madpilot: *Ouch*
[12:02] <StevenK> Madpilot: And Battered Badger? :-)
[12:02] <Seveas> 12:02 here - time for breakfast
[12:03] <Madpilot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[12:03] <StevenK> That's the one!
[12:03] <hyphenated> I'm still running horny hedgehog
[12:03] <Seveas> haha
[12:04] <Seveas> Wacky Warthog
[12:04] <Chousuke> Whacko Warthog
[12:04] <intelikey> stoned skunk   ?
[12:04] <AMDXP> anyone having issues with the repositories?
[12:04] <Chousuke> :D
[12:04] <Seveas> AMDXP, no
[12:04] <AMDXP> i cant apt-get anything at all
[12:04] <Seveas> AMDXP, errors on the pastebin please
[12:04] <Chousuke> mangy mutt would be the worst though.
[12:05] <aftertaf> intelikey:  hmmmmm... :)
[12:05] <AMDXP> pastebin? where is that
[12:05] <intelikey> AMDXP close synaptic and then try.
[12:05] <Seveas> !tell AMDXP about pastebin
[12:05] <Chousuke> wtf. :p
[12:05] <aftertaf> windows new release is called Constripated Cow, right?
[12:05] <Seveas> ekomof, that would be Biologic German in dutch :)
[12:05] <AMDXP> thanks Seveas
[12:05] <Chousuke> Too many spambots.
[12:06] <Chousuke> Try to think of something with Q or X
[12:06] <aftertaf> choudesh:  my brain segfaulted thanks to your suggestion
[12:06] <intelikey> no animals with those letters are there ?
[12:07] <aftertaf> oh dearie dear
[12:07] <intelikey> disected deer
[12:07] <hyphenated> you won't have to worry about those for 15 years or so
[12:07] <Seveas> $ gdm /sbin/aftertafs-brain
[12:07] <Seveas> > run
[12:07] <Seveas> segfault
[12:07] <Seveas> bt
[12:07] <Seveas> E: no brain found
[12:07] <intelikey> dashing deer
[12:08] <Chousuke> gdb aftertafs-brain.core <- mind-reading?
[12:08] <Seveas> rofl
[12:08] <hyphenated> gdm .. logging into his brain, huh? ;-)
[12:09] <intelikey> thoughtfs ?
[12:09] <Seveas> $ chroot /var/chroot/hyphenated
[12:09] <Seveas> $ ls /var/porn | wc -l
[12:09] <hyphenated> intelikey: it'd need an fsck each time you mount it
[12:09] <Seveas><PHONE_NUMBER>
[12:09] <hyphenated> Seveas: still room for some more!
[12:09] <Seveas> df -h
[12:10] <Seveas> /dev/md0 /var/porn 122TB 121RB 1%
[12:10] <aftertaf> hmm. thanks. guess i need a n upgrade ;)
[12:10] <hyphenated> haha
[12:10] <aftertaf> loool
[12:11] <Seveas> hmm, this channel is more off-topic than #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:11] <Seveas> we need some questions in here
[12:11] <aftertaf> when i run xp install in qemu, why does it take 6 hours to boot,
[12:11] <aftertaf>  /aside   how's that ?
[12:12] <Chousuke> How to explain God to a UNIX geek? "Imagine someone who's got root on EVERY box..."
[12:12] <intelikey> root# mount aftertaf'brain -t thoughtfs /dev/null -o loop
[12:12] <Seveas> loool :)
[12:12] <aftertaf> heheheh geek humour!
[12:12] <intelikey> :)
[12:12] <aftertaf> as i find it funny, am i one too? ;)
[12:12] <Seveas> speacking of geek humour: http://geekz.co.uk
[12:12] <Seveas> read all the comics from the beginning
[12:12] <intelikey> lol
[12:12] <intelikey> yessir
[12:14] <Seveas> hi RichiH
[12:15] <RichiH> oi
[12:15] <Chousuke> Speaking of geek humour... Once I was listening to a programming lecture, and there was an error in the presentation sheets (whatever you call those)... So, the lecturer went on "Now we get to this for loop... see, W H I L E, for!"
[12:15] <lillpelle> How do I change the console font on the non-graphic ttys?
[12:15] <axelm> hey anyone know how to configure powernowd, i cant find a decent explantion on the net
[12:15] <Chousuke> it made the audience laugh a bit :)
[12:15] <orbx> Seveas: I have installed php5 on the ubuntu apache2 server, but when i try and view php files insted of viewing them it prompts me to download them. Any ideas how i can fix this?
[12:16] <Seveas> orbx, sudo a2enmod php5; sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[12:16] <mir> .
[12:16] <mir> When I boot ubuntu install cd, the screen goes blank when the graphical installer is suposed to show up, anyone who can help ?
[12:16] <jyk> hi
[12:16] <onkarshinde> where can report broken packages?
[12:16] <jyk> ?
[12:17] <Seveas> onkarshinde, depends on which package and what the proble is
[12:17] <axelm> mir, maybe cd is corrupt
[12:17] <jyk> *  #ubuntu
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[12:17] <odyssey> odd
[12:17] <axelm> hey anyone know how to configure powernowd, i cant find a decent explantion on the net
[12:17] <Seveas> mir, Ubuntu has no graphical installer
[12:18] <mir> axelm: No, I have tried several cds.. same results... Can it be that there is a problem with gfx drivers?
[12:18] <mir> Seveas: okey, but it changes resulution I think, or goes in to some sort of other screen mode.. Thats when I get a blank screen.. Got any ideas?
[12:19] <onkarshinde> Seveas: The package lincvs is a kde package. It depends on libqt. Its dependencies list specifies libqt3c102-mt, where as this package is renamed to libqt-mt in breezy.
[12:19] <axelm> mir, can u access the boot command line ?
[12:19] <intelikey> mir frame buffer mode
[12:19] <mir> Help me out here, I HATE the pre installed windows
[12:19] <Seveas> onkarshinde, that bug is known
[12:19] <axelm> hey anyone know how to configure powernowd, i cant find a decent explantion on the net
[12:19] <Seveas> search malone
[12:19] <onkarshinde> Seveas: Isn't there anything that can be done?
[12:19] <Seveas> axelm: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[12:20] <davix> any students use linux? I'm looking for an alternative for Ms OneNote.
[12:20] <Seveas> onkarshinde, either wait for the motu to fix it or patch it yourself ;)
[12:20] <mir> intelikey: could it be some roblem with frame buffer mode?.. I have a ATI 200 Express card
[12:20] <aftertaf> davix:  what is onenote?
[12:20] <Seveas> davix, what is OneNote?
[12:20] <onkarshinde> Seveas: I don't know patch process.
[12:20] <aftertaf> hahaaaaaaaaa Seveas beat ya ;)
[12:20] <Seveas> aftertaf, will you STOP looking in my brain
[12:20] <Seveas> kthxbywe
[12:20] <aftertaf> no shortcut ;)
[12:20] <axelm> seveas, ok sorry i usually try three times only anyway was the last
[12:20] <intelikey> yes could be.
[12:20] <orbx> sorry Seveas could you repeat that comand?
[12:20] <mir> axelm: I have not tried to boot into root.. But asume it works as long as it is in the original screen mode.
[12:21] <Seveas> orbx, sudo a2enmod php5 && sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[12:21] <onkarshinde> !motu
[12:21] <ubotu> motu are the Masters of the Universe (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU)
[12:21] <davix> Seveas, aftertaf, http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/FX010858031033.aspx
[12:22] <orbx> Seveas: it says that the module is already enabled
[12:22] <Seveas> onkarshinde, apt-get source lincvs; sudo apt-get build-dep lincvs; cd lincvs-$version_number_here; sed -e 's/c102//' -i debian/control dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot; sudo dpkg -i ../*deb
[12:22] <Seveas> (sort of)
[12:22] <Seveas> orbx, did it also restart apache?
[12:22] <fukngruv> hello?
[12:23] <Seveas> if not: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[12:23] <Seveas> hi fukngruv
[12:23] <fukngruv> I could use a little help
[12:23] <mir> Hey guys, no one has any suggestions?... Please don't let me alone here in the dark with windows
[12:23] <Seveas> fukngruv, if you explain with what, maybe we can help
[12:23] <orbx> Seveas: No i don't think apache restarted
[12:23] <fukngruv> I just downloaded realplayer10gold.bin and have no idea how to run it in the terminal
[12:23] <Seveas> orbx, the restart it :)
[12:24] <intelikey> not with &&   you said  ; the first time tho
[12:24] <Seveas> !tell fukngruv about restricted
[12:24] <Seveas> fukngruv, read what ubotu sent you
[12:24] <fukngruv> well how do I run a bin file in the terminal I am new to linux
[12:25] <Seveas> fukngruv, read what ubotu sent you!
[12:25] <orbx> Seveas > nothing happens when i try to restart with: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[12:25] <Seveas> that has instructions on how to use realplayer
[12:25] <Seveas> orbx, hmm, odd
[12:25] <fukngruv> -k- how about this. How do I run any program in the terminal
[12:25] <fukngruv> I am used to dos
[12:25] <fukngruv> trying to learn linux
[12:25] <Seveas> fukngruv, just type the command
[12:25] <orbx> Seveas: is it only in the apache2.conf where i have to edit for php to work or do i have to edit in php.ini?
[12:26] <intelikey> fukngruv ./ is not in the path maybe.    try  ./file
[12:26] <fukngruv> I typed in blahblahblah.bin and it says command not found
[12:26] <Seveas> orbx, not even in apache2.conf
[12:26] <Seveas> fukngruv, ./realplayerbla.bin
[12:26] <Seveas> make sure the file is executable
[12:26] <Seveas> chmod +x bla.bin
[12:26] <fukngruv> says no such file but I am in the proper dir
[12:27] <orbx> Seveas > so php should just work?
[12:27] <Seveas> orbx, yeah :|
[12:27] <intelikey> fukngruv  dos  searches  .\ (which is ./ in linux)  but linux only searches the $PATH for files you type.     :)
[12:27] <Seveas> unless you manually hacked up apache2.conf and removed a few essential parts
[12:27] <mir> Is it possible to install in non frame buffer mode ?
[12:28] <fukngruv> I tried chmod +x and it said cannot access no such file
[12:28] <mir> Knoppix just booted correctly.
[12:28] <intelikey> fukngruv  ls   and see if the file is in the same dir you are in.
[12:28] <fukngruv> yes it is
[12:29] <fukngruv> it is in black text if that matters
[12:29] <intelikey> what colour did it show as ?
[12:29] <Seveas> fukngruv, make sure you spell it right
[12:29] <intelikey> i see.
[12:29] <orbx> Seveas > so no more ideas? :(
[12:29] <Seveas> including capitalization
[12:29] <fukngruv> is it case sensitive?
[12:29] <intelikey> yes
[12:30] <intelikey> fukngruv [tab]   the tab key will complete file names for you so you can use it for spellcheck
[12:30] <krak`nix> anyone here have any experience with xboard?  trying to resize the window but it doesn't let me :(
[12:30] <fukngruv> ran chmod and it turned green still wont run
[12:30] <fukngruv> chmod +x
[12:31] <intelikey> if it is green it is now executable.
[12:31] <fukngruv> what command do you use to execute
[12:31] <intelikey> ./file[tab]      [enter]
[12:32] <fukngruv> thank you got it you guys rock
[12:32] <intelikey> welcome
[12:34] <fukngruv> mozilla still won't use the plugin
[12:34] <krak`nix> (totem:8429): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[12:34] <Seveas> fukngruv, you don't need realplayer to play realmedia files
[12:34] <Jerub> blarg.
[12:34] <krak`nix> ?? :o
[12:34] <intelikey> did you read the webpage you were pointed at to begin with ?
[12:34] <Seveas> krak`nix, ignore
[12:35] <fukngruv> no I am trying to stream
[12:35] <fukngruv> video
[12:35] <BooZee> I have a webcam with a usb connection. nothing happens when I plug it in to the comp
[12:35] <Seveas> fukngruv, you don't need realplayer to play realmedia streams either
[12:35] <Crasp> mplayer <3
[12:35] <Seveas> +w32codecs
[12:35] <krak`nix> Seveas: double clicking a video file does't work, but if i go through terminal, run totem, open the file manually it does :(
[12:35] <Crasp> perhaps totem can play it as well
[12:35] <fukngruv> when I go to a page with a stream the stream window turns kinda off white and blank
[12:35] <Crasp> but not sure
[12:35] <fukngruv> totem wont play
[12:36] <krak`nix> when i double click the movie file i get
[12:36] <Crasp> well i don't like totem anyway, i wonder why it's still the "default" mediaplayer for ubuntu
[12:36] <krak`nix> The Application "totem" has quit unexpectedly.
[12:36] <krak`nix> You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.
[12:37] <fukngruv> How do I get mozilla to play my streaming video the plugin is installed now but wont work
[12:37] <Crasp> krak`nix: sudo apt-get install mplayer w32codecs
[12:37] <fukngruv> how do I run apt-get?
[12:38] <Crasp> fukngruv: you open a terminal
[12:38] <fukngruv> and?
[12:38] <bimberi> fukngruv: sudo apt-get install <package>
[12:38] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install blah
[12:38] <Nak> hai
[12:38] <Jerub> what's the latest ubuntu, 'breezy' ?
[12:38] <Crasp> then you type: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[12:38] <bimberi> Jerub: yes
[12:38] <fukngruv> -k- how do I uninstall programs?
[12:38] <Crasp> apt-get uninstall
[12:38] <intelikey> fukngruv 'man apt-get '   is the book on it.
[12:38] <Crasp> eh
[12:38] <Crasp> apt-get remove
[12:38] <bimberi> fukngruv: sudo apt-get remove <program>
[12:39] <bimberi> fukngruv: with --purge to "completely remove"
[12:39] <fukngruv> thanks I have to type sudo also?
[12:39] <bimberi> fukngruv: yes
[12:39] <krak`nix> http://pastebin.com/434183
[12:39] <fukngruv> sorry I don't know much about linux YET
[12:39] <intelikey> or set the root password which these guys frown on.
[12:39] <BooZee> webcam help - how can I access my usb's webcam?
[12:40] <bimberi> fukngruv: hehe, np :)